[00:38] <cjohnston> nope
[00:38] <cjohnston> stuck in nyc
[01:40] <nigelb> Good morning
[01:49] <Pendulum> cjohnston: what happened? :(
[01:57] <cjohnston> We were standby
[01:58] <Pendulum> ah
[01:58] <nigelb> cjohnston: Oh, I thought you missed your flight :D
[01:59] <cjohnston> no
[01:59] <cjohnston> we were there
[01:59] <cjohnston> they missed us
[01:59] <cjohnston> lol
[02:00] <cjohnston> the first flight in the morning, as of 1.5 hours ago has 4 empty seats, so we may be able to get on that one
[02:00] <cjohnston> but the flight is at 705
[02:00] <cjohnston> so 430 at the airport
[02:00] <Pendulum> where are you staying?
[02:00] <cjohnston> comfort inn jfk
[03:37] <akgraner> hey if someone gets ban from #ubuntu what's the protocol for getting unban?
[03:38] <akgraner> one of the NC Loco team members was ban this weekend and just asked me how he goes about getting unban
[03:40] <nhandler> akgraner: Have them join #ubuntu-ops
[03:40] <akgraner> k that's what I thought but wanted to double check thanks nhandler
[04:36] <duanedesign> evening all
[06:34] <jono> doctormo, I posted a comment to your blog, can I you approve it?
[06:36] <duanedesign> hello jono
[06:38] <jono> hey duanedesign
[06:39] <jono> ok bed for me
[06:39] <jono> night all!
[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[07:30] <nigelb> Morning dholbach, ara
[07:31] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:32] <ara> hey nigelb
[07:32]  * nigelb sighs
[07:32] <nigelb> today's going to be a really longish day :|
[07:35]  * cjohnston may be sitting in an airport for 13 hours.. i agree
[07:36] <dpm> good morning all
[07:36] <nigelb> Morning dpm
[07:37] <dpm> hey nigelb
[07:44] <kim0> Morning everyone
[07:48] <dpm> hey kim0, good morning!
[07:49] <kim0> dpm: hey man :)
[07:49] <dholbach> hey kim0
[07:50] <kim0> dholbach: Morgen :)
[07:50] <dholbach> kim0, صباح النور !
[07:51] <kim0> haha .. you're changing replies now even
[07:51] <nigelb> Hey kim0 :)
[07:51] <kim0> dholbach: love to hear you pronounce that :P
[07:51] <kim0> nigelb: morning man :)
[07:52] <dholbach> kim0, next time we meet and you can teach me how to say it right :)
[07:52] <nigelb> heh
[07:52] <dholbach> "no, do it again", "no, not like this... like this!", etc. :)
[07:53] <kim0> hehe my pleasure
[07:53] <dholbach> but I'm happy to learn some more, what I learned up until now is not even "holiday Arabic" :)
[07:54] <kim0> hehe :)
[08:47] <huats> morning
[08:47] <dpm> hey huats
[08:47] <huats> hello dpm
[08:58] <duanedesign> morning all
[09:41] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:42] <kim0> hey o/
[09:48] <duanedesign> o
[09:49] <popey> Good morning !
[09:50] <duanedesign> hello popey
[09:51] <kim0> Morning fellas
[09:52] <duanedesign> o/
[09:53] <czajkowski> http://www.networkworld.com/community/banshee-amazon-store-disabled-by-canonical-in-ubuntu  interesting read
[09:54] <popey> oooooooold
[09:54] <popey> :)
[09:57] <czajkowski> cant be all up to date like you mr popey  ;)
[09:57] <popey> :)
[10:18] <kim0> daker: Morning
[10:20] <daker> morning ツ
[10:33] <topyli> czajkowski: the headline is linkbait though, was disappointed to see it :)
[10:33] <topyli> (on lwn first)
[10:34] <topyli> i'd rather write "Ubuntu One still default music store on Ubuntu despite player change" :)
[10:34] <czajkowski> thats not going to grab attention though
[10:35] <topyli> nope
[10:35]  * topyli tweets, tests
[10:35] <popey> jzb needs to get paid somehow :)
[10:44] <topyli> or maybe "ubuntu adds amazon music store as an option" even
[10:45] <nigelb> but that isn't going to get people to read the article.
[10:46] <nigelb> also, it shows Ubuntu in good light!
[10:46] <topyli> can't have that!
[10:46] <nigelb> Exactlly!
[10:49] <topyli> popey: that might be a good headline too, albite a bit niche
[10:49] <topyli> or albeit
[11:23] <dholbach> can somebody please sticky these two:
[11:23] <dholbach> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10449345
[11:23] <dholbach> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10449347
[13:52] <daker> kim0, o/
[13:57] <duanedesign> dholbach: yep
[13:59] <dholbach> thanks duanedesign!
[14:00] <duanedesign> doneizzle dhizzleC[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C
[14:03] <daker> dholbach, hi
[14:03] <dholbach> hey daker - how are you doing?
[14:03] <daker> good ツ & you ?
[14:03] <dholbach> great - thanks :)
[14:04] <kim0> daker: howdy man
[14:06] <daker> question: i developing a project which going - i think - deployed but as you know they are running django 1.1.1 , the project have some difficulties with django 1.1.1 and it runs very well on 1.2.3
[14:06] <daker> i mean question to dholbach ツ
[14:06] <dholbach> did you figure out what exactly it requires from 1.2.3?
[14:07] <dholbach> for the LD we had to "borrow" some code for a short time, but only a minimal piece that made it work
[14:07] <dholbach> but you could just ask the people in #canonical-sysadmin
[14:07] <dholbach> they can give a definite answer :)
[14:07] <daker> ok thanks
[14:42] <czajkowski> anyone know the ubuntu channel that deal with chrome/browser issues ?
[14:58] <popey> czajkowski: specifically?
[14:59] <czajkowski> popey: I know I was in one before with jcastro as I had a chrome issue with font displaying .  but every time I download items on this machine in chrome I get empty items
[14:59] <czajkowski> but work fine in firefox
[14:59] <popey> file a bug?
[15:00] <czajkowski> popey: trying to work out is it  asetting or something someone has heard of before, tis just odd and only happens on this machine.
[15:03] <doctormo> czajkowski: Even if it's a setting, it should be filled as a bug.
[15:04] <czajkowski> ubuntu-bug chromium ? package does not exist, what do I file it agaisnt ?
[15:05] <jcastro> chromium-browser
[15:06] <czajkowski> jcastro: thank you
[15:10] <czajkowski> jcastro: what is the channel to follow up in  as well ?
[15:11] <jcastro> u-mozillateam
[15:11] <jcastro> fta hangs out there
[15:11] <czajkowski> jcastro: thanks
[15:27]  * popey cuddles jcastro
[15:38] <czajkowski> wow a channel popey is not in :p
[15:39] <popey> hah
[15:39] <popey> i recently rebooted my vps, so pruned my channel list :p
[15:39] <Pendulum> popey: how many channels are you in now, then?
[15:39] <popey> not many
[15:39] <popey> 92
[15:39] <Pendulum> :)
[15:39] <czajkowski> hmm to tesco to get food to cook
[15:39] <czajkowski> toodles
[15:40] <popey> czajkowski: pro-tip: Don't poison anyone!
[16:21] <czajkowski> popey: I didnt poision him :(
[16:21] <popey> :)
[16:24] <czajkowski> cooking again this evening. :)
[16:24] <czajkowski> I may be tempted to this time though
[16:25] <popey> hehe
[16:25] <czajkowski> London really isn';t pretty during the day
[16:25] <czajkowski> at least by night the lights make it look pretty
[16:26]  * czajkowski is making a lasagna this evening for dinner
[16:33] <Pendulum> czajkowski: yummy :)
[16:36] <jono> hey all
[16:37] <Pendulum> hiya jono
[16:37] <Pendulum> jono: we're still on for today, right?
[16:39] <jono> yep
[16:39] <jono> six hours of calls today
[16:39] <jono> ugh
[16:39] <kim0> six hours .. ew
[16:40]  * Pendulum hugs jono
[16:44]  * jono hugs Pendulum
[17:20] <doctormo> pleia2: Looks like we'll only be doing the alternative accommodation for UDS. Few Ubuntu orgs are interested in the Ubuntu community sponsorship idea.
[17:21] <doctormo> So we'll drop it and work on just making it easier for those rich enough to fly there, but not so rich as to afford the UDS hotel.
[17:21] <pleia2> doctormo: that's ashame, but a list of hotels at least will be helpful for those folks
[17:22] <doctormo> pleia2: Yea, I thought I'd at least get a handful of people interested.  Oh well.
[17:22] <doctormo> And if it's not possible to get OMG interested, then it's not possible to get anyone interested IMO.
[17:22] <doctormo> ;-)
[17:22] <popey> where was this publicised?
[17:22]  * popey hasn't seen anything about it
[17:23] <doctormo> popey: It wasn't, it was private emails and individuals.
[17:23] <pleia2> no where, I'm still working with ubuntu-hu to get a list
[17:23] <doctormo> popey: Will you be going to UDS?
[17:24] <popey> no idea
[17:24] <doctormo> popey: If you don't go, would you put $40 into a hat to sponsor someone else?
[17:24] <popey> I'll happily do that whether I go or not
[17:25] <Technoviking> is sponsorship open?
[17:25] <popey> has jono blogged it? :)
[17:25] <doctormo> Technoviking: No, not yet.
[17:25] <pleia2> well, once we have the locations pinned down we'll put together a sponsorship wiki page and see if we can get individual donations :)
[17:25] <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/ -> "We are not currently accepting sponsorship applications for uds-o in Budapest, Hungary . Please check back again later!
[17:26] <doctormo> pleia2: I was using popey as a litmus of interest, I wonder how he translates to other less involved users.
[17:26] <pleia2> last time it was primarily individual donors, right?
[17:26] <jono> sponsorship is not open yet
[17:26] <jono> will be open very soon
[17:27] <doctormo> pleia2: We speared it, so the one person we wanted to fund we went to the teams he was involved in and ask them directly.
[17:27]  * pleia2 nods
[17:27] <doctormo> jono: How much support would a kickstarter project get from the community team, if we set one up at the same time?
[17:28]  * popey hacks jono's wordpress install and hits [SUBMIT] on the blog post titled "Ubuntu Developer Summit Applications Open!"
[17:29] <doctormo> popey: Would it be worth having the CC mull over everyone who doesn't get Canonical support for such a thing?
[17:29] <popey> I think not, I think it's a JFDI
[17:29] <popey> if you think it needs doing, do it
[17:30] <doctormo> popey: No, I mean, when it's done, and there is a pot of gold.
[17:30] <popey> was the comment about OMG serious? Have you approached them to write up about it?
[17:30] <popey> nah, just get someone responsible to look after it
[17:30]  * popey notes that as you have talked most about it, you automagically become responsible ;D
[17:30] <doctormo> popey: Same person to choose the people to sponsor? I could do that :-P
[17:31] <popey> CIVS?
[17:31] <popey> maybe overthinking it tbh
[17:31] <doctormo> What does CIVS mean?
[17:32] <popey> its the poll system we use for votes
[17:32] <popey> e.g. for the CC vote
[17:32] <doctormo> Ah the Alternative vote.
[17:32] <popey> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_f802a7d79840b58a
[17:32] <popey> can you see that?
[17:33] <popey> however.
[17:33] <popey> did you see what the Linux Outlaws (podcast) guys did to get one of them to FOSDEM?
[17:33] <popey> http://www.indiegogo.com/lo-fosdem2011
[17:33] <popey> seemed to work well
[17:35] <doctormo> popey: Thanks for the links.
[17:35] <popey> np
[17:35] <popey> I think it's a great idea to help get people to UDS
[17:37] <doctormo> pleia2: What do you think? If you +1, I'll go ahead regardless.
[17:40] <popey> I'm just not sure about the method
[17:40] <popey> whether it's worth getting a list of people who want to go up front
[17:40] <popey> and creating individual things for them
[17:40] <popey> or one massive fund
[17:40] <popey> "massive"
[17:40] <pleia2> I think it would be hard to know who to poll
[17:41] <popey> true
[17:41] <popey> the people who donated?
[17:42] <pleia2> some donors may just want to donate to someone who they know will represent their interests at the summit
[17:42] <pleia2> so they won't want to commit until they know who they are donating to
[17:43] <popey> yeah
[17:43] <popey> it's tricky
[17:44] <pleia2> maybe we just decide based on applications and community support we can see (last time it was pretty clear that BT wanted the sponsored party to go)
[17:44] <doctormo> Try the massive pool and then try the singular funding next time if it fails?
[17:44] <AlanBell> doctormo: I think it is a great idea, and just doing the hotel is great
[17:45] <pleia2> yeah, and in their applications we should see if there is any money on their end
[17:45] <pleia2> maybe they can afford half a trip, but not the whole thing
[17:45] <pleia2> that way we can help more people
[17:45] <AlanBell> you could gather a fund and split it between all the people paying their own flights towards their hotel bills
[17:46] <doctormo> pleia2: For that, we'd need details on the accommodation costs.
[17:47] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, which we're still working on, hajni is talking with a travel agent friend
[17:48] <pleia2> doctormo: what is the minimum accomodation type, 3 star? 4 star?
[17:48] <pleia2> (the highest is 5)
[17:49] <m4n1sh> uds planner was written by Scott ?
[17:49] <popey> m4n1sh: originally, maintained by various people now iirc
[17:49] <doctormo> pleia2: Minimum is couches at houses ;-), but I suppose for others, 3 stars should be good.
[17:49]  * popey points a finger at Daviey :D
[17:49] <pleia2> doctormo: ok, thanks :)
[17:49] <m4n1sh> that's why I see "Sign in to Keybuk's UDS Planner"
[17:49] <popey> m4n1sh: what url?
[17:50] <doctormo> pleia2: but if there is a way to reduce the cost by locating at distance, the key is transport.
[17:50] <m4n1sh> https://login.launchpad.net/somerandomkey/+decide
[17:50] <doctormo> It's easier to do if a bunch of people are located at the same distance hotel.
[17:50] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day now
[17:50] <popey> m4n1sh: how did you get there?
[17:50] <m4n1sh> popey: when you try to login
[17:50] <popey> o/ dholbach
[17:50] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day and see you tomorrow!
[17:50] <m4n1sh> popey: from http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/
[17:50] <m4n1sh> if you are not logged in
[17:50] <popey> yeah, i wouldn't do that yet
[17:51] <doctormo> popey: Yea, to answer your previous question. OMG didn't respond to a request to make an article for it.
[17:51] <m4n1sh> which article?
[17:51]  * Daviey raises an eyebrow
[17:51]  * m4n1sh reads the log
[17:52] <Daviey> am i wanted?
[17:53] <doctormo> Daviey: Are you involved in OMG?
[17:53] <Daviey> doctormo, no
[17:53] <m4n1sh> doctormo: what exactly you want to post on omg? accomodation during uds?
[17:53] <Daviey> popey, you pointed at me?
[17:53] <doctormo> m4n1sh: Kickstarter to raise donations for getting people to UDS.
[17:54] <m4n1sh> and you want an author who can post it?
[17:54] <m4n1sh> probably david can? or akshat
[17:56] <popey> doctormo: manish asked about the summit page which mentioned keybuk
[17:59] <popey> doctormo: i suspect there is an alterior motive why omg didnt publicise
[17:59] <popey> doctormo: I expect that both Joey and Ben want to go to UDS themselves :)
[18:00] <popey> either that or one of 1) your story isnt shiny linkbait, 2) they are not your performing monkeys, making stories that you choose, 3) they get a lot of comments and missed it
[18:00] <popey> or all of the above
[18:01] <doctormo> popey: seems reasonable.
[18:02] <m4n1sh> Lol
[18:02] <doctormo> pleia2: I'll estimate $1k per sponsored person on the kickstart and aim to get 5 extra people there. I'll detail how it'll work with votes,
[18:02] <m4n1sh> popey: lol @ 1
[18:05] <popey> \o/ home time
[18:05] <popey> see you gorgeous people later!
[18:05] <popey> mwah mwah!
[18:08] <mhall119> m4n1sh: did you have a question/problem with summit.ubuntu.com?
[18:08]  * mhall119 saw your link above, but not sure of the context
[18:08] <m4n1sh> mhall119: nope. Was just asking if Scott developed it :)
[18:08] <m4n1sh> and btw is the sponsorship stopped?
[18:09]  * mhall119 doesn't see Scott in the source history
[18:09] <m4n1sh> mhall119: logout. and then goto the http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/
[18:09] <m4n1sh> you will be redirected to login page
[18:09] <mhall119> m4n1sh: sponsorship for UDS-O hasn't started yet, it was a bug in the summit code that had it opened previously
[18:09] <m4n1sh> mhall119: ah. so people who applied have to apply again?
[18:10] <m4n1sh> who already applied have to apply again?
[18:10] <mhall119> m4n1sh: no, the sponsorship applications should still be in the database
[18:10] <m4n1sh> it is there
[18:10] <mhall119> but you can double-check with jcastro and Daviey on that
[18:10] <jcastro> they're in there
[18:10] <jcastro> submissions  are off
[18:10] <mhall119> m4n1sh: going to that link took me through SSO and back, but I didn't see any mention of Scott
[18:10] <jcastro> scott's mentioned in the form page
[18:11] <mhall119> which I don't get to
[18:11] <jcastro> though I /think/ cjohnston fixed that, not sure
[18:11] <m4n1sh> on login page: "Sign in to Keybuk's UDS Planner"
[18:11] <jcastro> m4n1sh: oh file a bug on that please
[18:11] <mhall119> oh, on login.launchpad.net?
[18:11] <jcastro> lp.net/summit
[18:11] <m4n1sh> doing
[18:11] <m4n1sh> it is
[18:11] <m4n1sh> Registered 2009-05-19 by Scott James Remnant (Canonical)
[18:12] <mhall119> jcastro: grep shows now 'keybuk' in summit's source tree, is this something recorded in Launchpad or SSO?
[18:12] <jcastro> not sure
[18:12] <mhall119> if summit was registered with LP's services, it may be stored by them
[18:14] <mhall119> Daviey might know better
[18:14] <mhall119> but I think that's the case, LP has pre-authorized access from summit, and probably has that name stored
[18:14] <m4n1sh> cool
[18:14] <m4n1sh> summit is in django
[18:14] <mhall119> yup
[18:14] <m4n1sh> my fav web framework :)
[18:15] <mhall119> mine too ;)
[18:15] <doctormo> mhall119: I still like wsgi, but django is tops
[18:16] <m4n1sh> I think ubuntu makes use of wordpress+thematic framework a lot
[18:16] <m4n1sh> and for custom work, django
[18:16] <m4n1sh> jcastro: the lady on the left is amber? Right? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_1Thkya8n93k/TVRdlbJ-iLI/AAAAAAAAfnc/7FU_VHREmhk/uds8.jpg
[18:17] <jcastro> no that's Jane Silber
[18:17] <vish> m4n1sh: nope
[18:17] <m4n1sh> and well everyone knows who is on the right :)
[18:17]  * vish leaves it to quickgun jcastro ;)
[18:17] <m4n1sh> probably everyone him knows before they were even born
[18:17] <mhall119> doctormo: you can run django on wsgi
[18:17] <mhall119> that's the preferred way of doing it these days
[18:29] <jcastro> vish: I moved to gdocs
[18:30] <vish> jcastro: hmm, i actually meant that "quickgun jcastro" at your quick reply to manish :)
[18:30] <jcastro> yeah, I moved on to you now.
[18:30] <vish> jcastro: oh wait, now i get it :)
[18:31] <jcastro> I AM FAST TODAY
[18:31] <JFo> faster than a speeding code commit
[18:31] <jcastro> this is why it's 1:30 and only am just now realizing I need to eat, heh
[18:31] <JFo> same here jcastro
[18:31]  * JFo listens to his belly rumble
[18:31] <JFo> and that is a whole lot to have rumbling
[18:32] <doctormo> JFo: My wife made me pea and ham soup, it was great.
[18:32] <JFo> sounds like
[18:37] <m4n1sh> jcastro: ping
[18:37] <jcastro> yo
[18:37] <m4n1sh> check zeitgeist tag on askubuntu
[18:37] <jcastro> vish: ok that's one, I'm going to let it bake for a bit and give it a think
[18:37] <m4n1sh> http://askubuntu.com/tags/zeitgeist/info
[18:38] <jcastro> booya, accepted
[18:38] <jcastro> nice work!
[18:38] <m4n1sh> yay
[18:38] <m4n1sh> will add more
[18:38] <m4n1sh> snapshots too
[18:39] <jcastro> no worries, it's real easy to integrate
[18:39] <jcastro> it just gives me a nice graphical diff
[18:39] <jcastro> and I click a button
[18:39] <m4n1sh> oh really
[18:39] <m4n1sh> stackexchange rocks
[18:40] <jcastro> yeah add a link to the homepage or something and I'll screenie it
[18:40] <m4n1sh> jcastro: everything is under consideration
[18:40] <m4n1sh> this week the whole team is off the work
[18:40] <m4n1sh> burnout killed most of them
[18:41] <jcastro> heh
[18:41] <jcastro> yeah!
[18:41] <jcastro> signs of brutalness
[18:41] <m4n1sh> except kamstrup
[18:41] <m4n1sh> he has to work on unity :(
[18:42] <jcastro> once he's done we can finally have python places
[18:42] <m4n1sh> really?
[18:42] <m4n1sh> is he the only person work on libunity
[18:42] <m4n1sh> I can see most of the changes from him
[18:42] <mhall119> jcastro: someone's already working on a python lib?
[18:43] <jcastro> mhall119: yeah, kamstrup
[18:43] <mhall119> awesome!
[18:43] <jcastro> m4n1sh: he's not the only one but it's mostly him
[18:43] <mhall119> one less thing for my todo list
[18:43] <jcastro> mhall119: the nice thing is we get python places AND launcherAPI python bits all at once
[18:43] <mhall119> more awesome
[18:43] <m4n1sh> kamstrup brutally rips apart our design decisions and make everyone's heads hang in shame :D
[18:44] <m4n1sh> esp no one has been able to come up with a good blacklist api and aggregate api.. he finds out lots of issues with each design
[18:44] <jcastro> he's pretty ninja
[18:46] <m4n1sh> jcastro: http://twitter.com/#!/njpatel/status/19843856935 and http://twitter.com/#!/njpatel/status/25981912819
[19:12] <Daviey> mhall119 / jcastro: That is something for Canonical IS to fix i think.
[19:22] <scott-work> doctormo: been reading some of the ubuntu-artwork mail,  would it be possibel that you are others might be interested in working with ubuntu studio for artwork?
[19:29] <dpm> ok everyone, see you on Monday!
[20:05] <mhall119> wow, ronnie's google maps branch rocks
[20:05] <jcastro> screenshot please!
[20:33] <pleia2> doctormo: there is a 3 star hotel for ~45 euro (they don't use euros there, but it was easy for her to convert) per night 2 minutes walking distance away
[20:33] <pleia2> hajni sent me a whole list up to 100 euro/night and 4 star, all within walking distance, I'll put together a wiki page after work tonight
[20:34]  * pleia2 back to work
[22:11] <doctormo> scott-work: It's possible, do you want to chat about it in #ubuntu-artwork with me and thorwil?
[22:12] <doctormo> pleia2: That sounds fantastic!
[22:16] <scott-work> doctormo: that would be capital!
[22:17] <scott-work> doctormo: i don't think thorwil is there currently ?
[22:17] <doctormo> scott-work: No, this is a thing which needs an EU timezone
[22:18] <doctormo> So early morning for you :-)
[22:18] <scott-work> doctormo: okay, so tomorrow morningin i shall endeavour to find you and thorwil on #ubuntu-artwork :)
[22:20] <doctormo> scott-work: great, in the mean time. What kind of things did you have in mind?
[22:22] <scott-work> doctormo: anything, everything :)
[22:23]  * scott-work is a zen master :P
[22:23] <doctormo> scott-work: Has paultag given up on getting me to do his gui?
[22:28] <scott-work> doctormo: aye!  he's using a person within the ubuntustudio-dev group, it's a training exercise for him
[22:29] <scott-work> doctormo: jocularity aside, the ubuntu studio team does not have any at all to do artwork or themeing (is that a word? is it spelt correctly?), so any help in this quarter would be appreciated
[22:30] <jono> Pendulum, hey, just give me on sec and I will Skype you
[22:30] <Pendulum> jono: no worries, need to find my headset anyway
[22:30] <doctormo> scott-work: I think what I will do is make you a blog post on dA, there are lots of lost theme designers on there.
[22:32] <Pendulum> jono: i'm ready whenever you are
[22:33] <scott-work> doctormo: i sent an email to thorwil and he kindly said "no" :P
[22:33] <AlanBell> has gnome-screenshot been completely broken by unity? I can only get it to take screeshots of the desktop wallpaper
[22:33] <scott-work> doctormo: but he did sent a few links to others who might be interested
[22:34] <doctormo> scott-work: Sounds good, he must be winding down his art stuff.
[22:34] <scott-work> doctormo: but my thought was not to have contests or polls, just form a small group that can work collaboratively and come up with some good designs or ideas
[22:34] <doctormo> scott-work: That's the idea.
[22:35] <scott-work> doctormo: but certainly a blog post on dA would be an awesome step :)
[22:37] <doctormo> scott-work: How should folks contact you?
[22:49] <scott-work> doctormo: they can reach me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:50] <scott-work> that is a commonly available email address that i freely make public
[22:53] <jono> Pendulum, which chan should do the meeting in next week?
[22:53] <jono> #ubuntu-accessibility ?
[22:55] <jono> Pendulum, I will use that for now, we can change it if needed
[23:01] <doctormo> scott-work: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/38530843/
[23:10] <scott-work> doctormo: thanks!  i'll look at it at home, i have to run to pick up the kids :)
[23:50] <pleia2> doctormo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-O/OtherAccommodation
[23:51] <doctormo> pleia2: Does that include the UDS hotel itself for comparison?
[23:52] <pleia2> doctormo: no, I think we'll have to call the hotel to find out the rate
[23:53] <pleia2> on uds.ubuntu.com there is a "If you are not a Canonical employee or sponsored by Canonical but wish to book a room at please fill in this form and send it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>note
[23:53] <pleia2> but "this form" doesn't exist
[23:54] <pleia2> all I asked for from Hajni were 3+ star hotels within walking distance under 100 euros/night
[23:58] <doctormo> pleia2: Perfect, you're a star!
[23:59] <doctormo> jono: When you announce sponsorship, can you link to our wiki page?


[09:04] <absabs> what's the status of replacement-initscripts
[09:05] <absabs> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/replacement-initscripts/changes
[09:06] <absabs> shows that the latest change is on 2007-02-13
[12:00] <jyujin> 1;2c1;2c/window 19
[12:00] <jyujin> sry
[14:07] <Keybuk> random thought occurred to me the other day
[14:07] <Keybuk> Upstart runs all processes as session and process group leaders
[14:07] <Keybuk> (as did sysvinit)
[14:07] <Keybuk> *but*
[14:07] <Keybuk> most daemons deliberately try not to be a session or process group leader
[16:17] <Keybuk> it's annoyingly hard to think of a C filename for the D-Bus code ;)
[16:23] <ion_> Heh
[16:23] <ion_> apg is good at generating passwords, perhaps one could use it to generate filenames as well.
[16:23] <Keybuk> I've been using dbus.c
[16:24] <Keybuk> but have just spent the morning debugging a bug caused by naming a function the same as one from libdbus
[16:24] <Keybuk> so clearly I'm going to have to change namespace :p
[16:24] <ion_> UpstartDBus? A bit long. USDBus? Meh...
[16:28] <ion_> MyDBus? :-)
[16:28] <ion_> Rot13 of dbus would be qohf. :-P


[02:28] <nobuto> Could anyone nominate Bug #1096546 to quantal for SRU?
[02:28] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1096546 in java-package (Ubuntu) "Failed to work with jdk7u10. No matching plugin was found" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096546
[02:40] <micahg> nobuto: done
[02:42] <nobuto> micahg: Thanks!
[13:17] <luv> hey ther - I was thinking I could help with ubuntu online accounts
[13:17] <luv>  I would like to add a feature to log out (that is not just disable/enable an account) but discard the token and all so a new login is required
[13:17] <luv> kinda regression not having this feature in but patching apps to use UOA instead of they auth mechanism (because the apps usually support log outs)
[13:18] <luv> so
[13:18] <luv> who should I talk to? is there an irc channel for UOA ?
[13:18] <luv>  oh sorry, wrong channel
[13:18] <mitya57> luv: maybe #ubuntu-unity
[13:28] <luv> unity? ;-)
[19:44] <priteshjain_> Hello Is this the right place to talk about ubuntu network bug?
[19:53] <robru> priteshjain_, depends. do you just need help fixing a problem? #ubuntu is better for support. this channel is more about, if you need help triaging the bug on launchpad
[19:57] <priteshjain_> robru: I actually found a solution to a bug in ubuntu which i faced somewhat weird solution so needed to clarify
[19:57] <robru> do you know the bug number describing the issue, priteshjain_ ?
[19:58] <priteshjain_> I just posted a comment to a similar bug
[19:58] <priteshjain_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/456612/comments/58
[19:58] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 456612 in modemmanager "network manager does not connect through CDMA 3G after upgrade; fix available -- Huawei EC1260" [Medium,Incomplete]
[19:58] <priteshjain_> I just wanted to know what exactly nm-online and nm-tool does
[19:59] <priteshjain_> as it magically fixed my modem detection bug
[19:59] <robru> priteshjain_, ok, so you might want to shoot an email to cyphermox. he's the main networkmanager maintainer, would know all about that, and also would know about including your fix in ubuntu
[20:00] <priteshjain_> robru: thanks a lot I will
[20:00] <robru> also I'll assign that bug to him ;-)
[20:02] <priteshjain_> robru: there are lots of bugs revolving around this problem its this solves it it would be a great help for us all bt I still doubt about it reading the man pages for nm-online and nm-tool
[20:02] <priteshjain_> robru: thanks
[20:03] <robru> priteshjain_, ok, you're welcome.
[20:04] <priteshjain_> robru: one last thing can you help me with the email of cyphermox
[20:04] <priteshjain_> or a way to get in touch with him
[20:32] <cyphermox> yo!
[20:32] <robru> cyphermox, hey
[20:32] <robru> cyphermox, sorry for all the spam ;-)
[20:33] <cyphermox> priteshjain_: nm-online and nm-tool just take the status info from NM and print it
[20:33] <cyphermox> np
[20:33] <cyphermox> that's why I idle here for ;)
[20:34] <robru> cyphermox, if you read his bug comment he mentions installing some package and then that causing his nic to start working, I think.
[20:35] <robru> dunno if that's relevant to help you fix anything in NM
[20:36] <cyphermox> nah, gnome-ppp or wvdial have nothing to do with any of this
[20:36] <cyphermox> unless in the off chance that one of them ships one extra file that gets dropped in /etc/ppp; but then the modem would be detected anyway, just unable to connect
[20:37] <cyphermox> I suspect the actual issue was rather that usb-modeswitch was very slow to run for that particular device
[20:40] <cyphermox> otherwise, there has been additional changes like downgrading MM a whole lot, which may or may not work well on precise
[20:40] <cyphermox> I wouldn't try it, given that the API is likely to be different enough for NM to not agree to bring up the modem
[20:42] <priteshjain_> cyphermox:  I had this issue from last more than  6 months now  but this just resolves it
[20:42] <cyphermox> priteshjain_: sorry, I can't explain why this would change anything
[20:42] <priteshjain_> I know its all weird but I worked on multiple machines thats what is amazing :D
[20:42] <cyphermox> there has to have been some other change, a different kernel, or whatnot
[20:43] <cyphermox> but if you can reproduce the failure mode and file a new bug for your particular issue then we'll be able to reproduce it
[20:43] <cyphermox> (and fix it)
[20:43] <priteshjain_> cyphermox: I tried it with 3.5 and 3.8 works on both
[20:44] <priteshjain_> Its never got detected on any linux kernels earlier but after this it works on both versions
[20:45] <priteshjain_> I had tried it on a fresh 12:10 install
[20:45] <priteshjain_> too
[20:47] <priteshjain_> I know this can be all crap but it means a lot for me as I had been using ppp libs to overcome this issue which always seemed crapy to me and also unreliable
[20:47] <priteshjain_> may be I will try some fresh install and try again
[20:54] <priteshjain_> cyphermox: thanks for all help will be leaving now too late 2:30 am :)
[20:55] <priteshjain_> robru: thanks
[20:55] <cyphermox> ok
[20:55] <cyphermox> feel free to ping me if you run into similar problems again
[20:55] <priteshjain_> cyphermox: sure thanks
[23:05] <bkerensa> Can someone have a look at Bug #1120704 I think its a good candidate for wont fix
[23:05] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1120704 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu does not open OpenDocument and MSOffice files in LibreOffice if installed" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1120704
[23:09] <micahg> bkerensa: I think it's a valid bug
[23:10] <micahg> I agree with mr_pouit's assessment though
[23:10] <bkerensa> micahg: wat
[23:10] <bkerensa> micahg: if we accept the patch we would change the expected behavior which would be undesired?
[23:11] <micahg> bkerensa: I think the idea is that it should be per session overrideable
[23:11] <bkerensa> I see
[23:11] <bkerensa> It does not seem his patch does that
[23:11] <bkerensa> so the bug is valid but the patch not?
[23:12] <micahg> the patch is a big hammer, where something smaller might be better (or more direct), ideally it should be a per-user preference like browser and other things, this should really be discussed in xubuntu-devel and I have to go :)
[23:13] <bkerensa> I will advise the submitted and ask if they would like to contribute a smaller hammer ;)
[23:14] <micahg> using the preferred applications dialog would be a good start, if the contributor would like to discuss options, #xubuntu-devel is the place


[17:03] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: heya, s your only SRU verification topic left OpenSTack? https://trello.com/c/PLfwx4v5/25-sru-manual-openstack-validation
[17:05] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: That and the mkswap one, I think.
[17:22] <meena> i got the wrong guy https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/161#issuecomment-578538874
[17:23] <blackboxsw> hrm, well at least that person is honest :).
[17:27] <meena> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
[17:28] <meena> i could submit a patch to freebsd, which fixes the current situation with the patch not applying cleanly, but that would only get us half the hunks
[20:17] <meena> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/161#issuecomment-578920473 he has a point
[20:17]  * meena blames Odd_Bloke
[20:27] <Odd_Bloke> Like I said, I'm not happy about it either.
[20:27] <Odd_Bloke> But that's the guidance we have from our legal folks.
[20:37] <wyoung> Legal...
[20:42] <meena> "guidance" may not be the right … or, correct word in this case
[20:42] <meena> ah, that doesn't translate well
[20:43] <meena> my head is all languaged up with Rust and Denglish here
[20:44] <meena> Odd_Bloke: i ight just close that pr then
[20:51] <Odd_Bloke> meena: Leave it for now, I want to take another crack at it internally.
[20:52] <Odd_Bloke> There may be something we can do for trivial cases like this, we've only asked in more general terms before.
[20:53] <meena> *nod
[21:40] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: looks like we're done with proposing our SRU tasks (I just put up two prs too) . I think the only thing we are waiting on is cdo-qa results for xenial
[21:40] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: I'm still working on one of the validation scripts.
[21:40] <blackboxsw> I'll verify your Openstack logs and start attaching results to the bug
[21:40] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: +1
[21:41] <blackboxsw> I think we can stilll attach the cloud verification logs in the interim.
[22:03] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: Just one type on https://github.com/cloud-init/ubuntu-sru/pull/94
[22:03] <Odd_Bloke> >.<
[22:03] <Odd_Bloke> one _typo_
[22:42] <ahosmanMSFT> Hi @blackboxsw
[22:42] <ahosmanMSFT> Were you able to take a look at those cloud-test issue?
[22:44] <ahosmanMSFT> ssh'ing issue, most likely due to something in wait_for_cloud_init function and the inconsistency of the property self._img_instance in image.py


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