[00:00] <andreas> hey is there a way to get my microphone to work in my laptop?
[00:01] <olskolirc> nope
[00:01] <olskolirc> all of my kdm themes won't install
[00:01] <olskolirc> won't even load into the kdm theme manager
[00:02] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  im not in kde so i cant check. :) doing some windows work.  Its possible the themes are older versions.
[00:03] <biovore> I always have to put the kdm themes in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes  (where the other themes are) and symlink it for it to work.. :-/
[00:03] <olskolirc> ohhh ok
[00:04] <Dr_willis> I just tend to pick one of the themes in the package manager and leave it alone.
[00:24] <flipstar> gn8
[00:29] <Dogface> have a problem the last few days.  Was trying to d/l some software with Adept... and told it to take from (some site)... which didn't work.  Eventually shut down for night and restarted today.  Adept will not start up.  Error message:...
[00:29] <Dogface> "The APT Database could not be opened!"
[00:29] <fivetwentysix> dogface
[00:29] <sub[t]rnl> !aptfix
[00:29] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:30] <fivetwentysix> nm
[00:30] <Dogface> says to try running 'apt-setup' and 'apt-get update'
[00:30] <fivetwentysix> he beat to it
[00:30] <fivetwentysix> Do it
[00:30] <Dogface> ok
[00:35] <dangspot> Hi, I just installed kubuntu, and it was all pretty smooth sailing... except that I accidentally trashed my windows partition. Well, good riddance, eh?
[00:36] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: what does that line do?
[00:36] <sub[t]rnl> which?
[00:36] <Dogface> "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[00:37] <sub[t]rnl> basically "removes" the dpkg's lock file and reconfigures it
[00:37] <Dogface> I did a paste to the konsole... it didn't seem to change anything.  Tried starting up apt.  Still didn't work
[00:37] <dangspot> Anyhoo. I think there might be a problem with my graphic drivers or something, because my screen is "flickering" when I move windows around or scroll. Does anyone know what this might be?
[00:38] <Dogface> BTW, this is on an old iMac
[00:40] <Dogface> what is dpkg's lock file?... and could it just be put that file in trash so it has to create another?
[00:42] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ yup
[00:43] <sub[t]rnl> lock file is created when a process is using apt or one of its front ends
[00:43] <Dogface> ok. tried it a couple times and it refuses to do anything new.  same old error message.
[00:44] <NickPresta> !aptfix | Dogface try this
[00:44] <ubotu> Dogface try this: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:44] <Dogface> that is what I did
[00:45] <NickPresta> Dogface, and what is the exact error message you're getting?
[00:46] <Dogface> header says... 'Could not open cache - Adept Manager'
[00:46] <Dogface> then
[00:46] <Dogface> "The apt database could not be opened!  This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem."
[00:47] <Dogface> it says to try running apt-setup and apt-get update ...but those don't change anything either
[00:47] <NickPresta> Dogface, in a Konsole, type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[00:48] <Dogface> ok, now it posts a message in Konsole...
[00:48] <Dogface> giving a big link... but the link is the 'mistake' link I tried to use last time to get some software.
[00:49] <NickPresta> Dogface, paste the output to a pastebin.
[00:49] <NickPresta> !pastebin
[00:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:49] <don_> Hey there.  Anybody know if there's a channel for Ubuntu Ultimate?
[00:49] <Dogface> ok... bb in a minute
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> don_➜ whats ultimate anyway? just ubuntu with some of the software pre installed right?
[00:50] <don_> Yeah, it's a repack.
[00:50] <quilty> I set up a software raid on my machine and everything is working fine but a little problem when mounting the partition(s) - i can't write on the mounted partitions as normal user - any ideas?
[00:50] <quilty> this is my fstab entry: /dev/md1 /media/md1 ext3 users,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[00:50] <don_> But I'm not sure which packages come from which branch and all that, so I was hopin' there was a channel for that distro specifically.
[00:52] <don_> The website for it is practically non-existant.
[00:53] <NickPresta> don_, http://ubuntusoftware.info/ That might help, but I can't read the content. The design makes my eyes bleed.
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> quilty➜ looks like you have a bit of redundancy in that fstab file
[00:53] <don_> Ah thank you.  New website?  Cuz I went to the one Google spit out at me, but all the links from the home page were dead.
[00:55] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53926/
[00:55] <quilty> sub[t]rnl: the partition is mounted at startup, I can mount/umount it as normal user but I can only write to it as root (sudo)
[00:55] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove that bad link
[00:55] <xevious-> sub[t]rnl: do you know how to empty the trash from the command line?
[00:55] <xevious-> or dcop?
[00:56] <xevious-> sub[t]rnl: and yo, what's up? too
[00:56] <Dogface> Have never done that.  Will have to go figure out where it even is
[00:56] <sub[t]rnl> xevious-➜ hrm, hey man not much.  No not sure, I use dcop for my konversation scripts.  yeah the trash is in your home direcotry though
[00:56] <sub[t]rnl>  .local/share/Trash/
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ in konsole, type kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ then remove the link
[00:57] <Dogface> ok, will do
[00:57] <xevious-> cool
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ after that, save and exit, followed with -> sudo apt-get update && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:57] <xevious-> thanks sub
[00:58] <xevious-> gotta peace . later
[00:58] <sub[t]rnl> k, lates
[00:58] <wimpies> does the kubuntu gutsy support smp and will it detect a quad core CPU ?
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> have to use a certain kernel
[00:59] <wimpies> which ?
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> not sure, would have to look
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> the generic kernel supports smp
[01:00] <wimpies> for 4 CPU ?
[01:00] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: kdesudo: command not found
[01:00] <biovore> yes.. will detect up to 9 out of the box
[01:00] <biovore> (8)
[01:00] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: did it as a paste... so it should have gone through fine
[01:00] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:01] <wimpies> ok so I should be OK then ... thx
[01:01] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ i take it your not using Gutsy?
[01:01] <sub[t]rnl> try kdesu
[01:01] <Dogface> using dapper
[01:01]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[01:01] <Dogface> ok
[01:03] <Dogface> awww man, have all kinds of output in Konsole now.  "Failed to open device" ...several times... then asked for password...
[01:04] <Dogface> then opened Kate and scrolled a lot of stuff...
[01:04] <sub[t]rnl> edit your sources.list file that kate opened
[01:04] <Dogface> 'kbuild sycoca running . . .'
[01:05] <sub[t]rnl> the failed to open device stuff just means you need to clean up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:09] <sub[t]rnl> quilty➜ did you get it worked out?
[01:09] <Dogface> I have a second bad link...
[01:09] <Dogface> going back to get rid of it too
[01:10] <Dogface> am gonna go out on a limb here and guess that a help file shouldn't be on top of that list!  *Grin
[01:11] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[01:12] <Dogface> now this can't be right...
[01:12] <Dogface> its still saying ....
[01:12] <Dogface> 'http:// packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> what on earth did you do to that file :>
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> pastebin the sources.list for us
[01:13] <Dogface> ok
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> (there probably shouldn't be a space in between the http:// and "packages")
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[01:14] <Dogface> I hand typed that part so that is my typo
[01:15] <Dr_willis> thats not a proper complete  package line either.
[01:17] <mixed> anyone ever used virtualbox on kubuntu?  I am getting this error: The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist.
[01:19] <Dogface> Ok, try this one this time....  <http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53927/>
[01:19] <Dogface> that's the whole dang file!
[01:19] <sub[t]rnl> take out those first two entries
[01:19] <Dogface> well.... ok!
[01:20] <sub[t]rnl> uncomment (remove the #'s) on the universe lines if you want them enabled
[01:21] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo apt-get update && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:21] <Dogface> where are you talking about to uncomment?
[01:22] <Dogface> Lines 19 & 20?
[01:22] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, (if you want too)
[01:22] <Dogface> is there some reason NOT to?
[01:23] <sub[t]rnl> personal reasons
[01:23] <sub[t]rnl> free software, GPL, et cetra
[01:23] <Dogface> Unless they're like... porn links or something I see no reason to be concerned
[01:24] <draik> How do I mount an ISO?
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[01:24] <draik> In xSane, how do I scan a specific section? Is there a preview scan or possibly a crop tool from the main scan?
[01:25] <Dogface> working ... connecting... all kinds of action now finally!
[01:26] <Dogface> maybe I should be saving this info to a file
[01:26] <sub[t]rnl> good deal
[01:26] <sub[t]rnl> draik➜ (example) mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/
[01:26] <draik> sub[t]rnl: Thanks.
[01:28] <Dogface> Konsole says its done reading packages...
[01:28] <Dogface> Adept still seems to be unwilling to start yet
[01:28] <mixed> anyone knows what this will do:  sudo m-a prepare
[01:28] <Dogface> oops... spoke too soon  - just fired up finally!!!
[01:29] <sub[t]rnl> mixed➜ run the "m-a" command as super user with the "prepare" option?
[01:29] <draik> sub[t]rnl: Says that it's the wrong type. What is the type for a DVD?
[01:29] <mixed> sub[t]rn,  what is "m-a"?  I cant install it.  it's supposed to be a module assistant
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: perhaps udf?
[01:32] <dorkface> Hi all.  I was looking around an opensuse box, and to my surprise, it seemed I looked at an opensuse box, and it seemed to be that there were more default screensavers in the same vein of the screensavers on my kubuntu box.  Is there a centeralized place to donwnload these screensavers?
[01:34] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: It looks like its up to me to do all the installs now.  Thanks for a LOT of good info & assistance.  Are you around for a bit?
[01:35] <sub[t]rnl> yup, should be
[01:35] <typoe> dorkface just try looking up screensavers in adept manager
[01:37] <unagi> why doesnt kubuntu put drives on the desktop, and dvds
[01:37] <typoe> mine puts dvds up when I put one in
[01:37] <unagi> interesting
[01:37] <unagi> im wanting to like kde but its fighting me :D
[01:38] <adz21c> unagi: you can disable that, i can't remember how but u can
[01:38] <mixed> how do I find out which version of ubuntu im running?
[01:38] <sub[t]rnl> lsb_release -a
[01:39] <mixed> sub[t]rn, thank you
[01:39] <sub[t]rnl> unagi➜ hrm, right by default it should place icons for mounted dvd's, samba shares, et cetra.
[01:40] <unagi> well then my kubuntu is retarded =)
[01:40] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[01:40] <typoe> it might be a hardware problem unai
[01:41] <typoe> if the drive doesnt actually inform the system when a new disk is loaded ..?
[01:42] <some_dude> oh yes, I've got my kde sudosexy
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> unagi- right-click the desktop, go to Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Device Icons
[01:43] <unagi> awesome
[01:43] <DooderZ> Hello all
[01:43] <unagi> any ideas how i can get my fn keys working in kubuntu?
[01:44] <DooderZ> Does anyone here know anything about Kubuntu on PPC
[01:44] <sub[t]rnl> unagi➜ kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts maybe?
[01:45] <typoe> should work the same on ppc as it does on 586
[01:45] <some_dude> it should be about the same as Kubunut on i86
[01:45] <DooderZ> right
[01:45] <DooderZ> but im having an issue during the boot
[01:45] <some_dude> hehe, grub
[01:45] <DooderZ> yaboot
[01:46] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: It looks like everything I wanted to do is just finishing.  Thanks for the help.  Can you tell me what the command lines meant?  (the stuff typed into console) ... when you're not busy (even to a pastebin if you don't want to detail it here)
[01:46] <unagi> specifically im talking about the screens brightness
[01:46] <DooderZ> it loads all the stuff and says [OK] after them and then brings up the kubuntu loading screen but not the desktop enviroment
[01:46] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ sure thing
[01:46] <ahmos> Hi everybody, I have made a partition /usr how I can change it or i can simoly delet the files stored on it?!!
[01:47] <typoe> ahmos use partition editor to delete partitions
[01:48] <DooderZ> Kubuntu on ppc loading screen loads all drivers / random linux stuff, then hangs at kubuntu loading screen, does not boot gui. Anyone know my issue?
[01:48] <typoe> or use "sudo rm-rf /usr" to delete the files but are you sure you want to?
[01:48] <ahmos> first can I ask u what is the use of a partition /usr
[01:48] <Max-P> !fixadept
[01:48] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:49] <typoe> ahmos a prtition editor creates and deletes paritions from a hard drive. It may also assign partition types
[01:49] <ahmos> ok
[01:49] <ahmos> thank u very much
[01:50] <typoe> that was odd
[01:50] <DooderZ> ubotu it says dependency problems prevent configuration of limewire basic
[01:50] <DooderZ> i didnt install limewire
[01:50] <DooderZ> ...
[01:50] <DooderZ> that i know of
[01:51] <typoe> it is probably correct
[01:51] <DooderZ> and continues to say it needs java because its dependent
[01:51] <DooderZ> thats preventing my gui from loading?
[01:51] <typoe> limewire is your gui?
[01:51] <DooderZ> hell no
[01:52] <DooderZ> i mean the desktop enviroment
[01:52] <DooderZ> it isnt loading
[01:52] <DooderZ> im in a terminal
[01:52] <DooderZ> using it
[01:52] <DooderZ> my X or whatever it is
[01:52] <DooderZ> wont load
[01:52] <DooderZ> ive rebooted multiple times
[01:52] <DooderZ> im sitll learning linux, im sick of windows
[01:53] <DooderZ> ive searched all over the net on how to fix it
[01:53] <sub[t]rnl> typoe➜ i really hope he doesn't rm -rf his /usr.. heh
[01:53] <biovore> probably boggered something up in /etc/X11/xorg.confr
[01:53] <typoe> well do you know if it is the X window server/driver or the desktop which loads later?
[01:53] <DooderZ> x loads later
[01:53] <DooderZ> i think
[01:53] <DooderZ> i remember seeing loading x b4 the desktop loads
[01:53] <DooderZ> actually
[01:54] <typoe> X loads first your desktop loads later, which is it wont load for you tho?
[01:54] <DooderZ> umm my desktop
[01:54] <typoe> so it does enter graphics mode and the mouse cursor comes up?
[01:54] <DooderZ> no
[01:54] <DooderZ> it doesnt
[01:55] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: Thanks.  Saw the info nicely!  :)
[01:55] <typoe> that sound like the X screen driver isnt loading them
[01:55] <DooderZ> it leaves the loading splash screen for kubuntu , the one that loads all your stuff when you boot
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ good deal
[01:55] <DooderZ> and i have to go into ctrl+f1 to enter commands
[01:55] <DooderZ> or whatever
[01:56] <DooderZ> any idea on a fix?
[01:57] <DooderZ> i even tried running the live cd i used to install it, and that does the same thing
[01:57] <DooderZ> and i promise you it worked previously
[01:57] <typoe> dooderz sounds like the video adapter isnt autoconfiguring correctly
[01:58] <penguincentral> hi.  i'm running kubuntu in VMWare Fusion, but i can't connect to the internet.  Networking is enabled on VMWare though.  Any help would be appreciated
[01:58] <DooderZ> ok, i stil have no idea what to do
[01:58] <max-p> Hi, I have a problem with Firefox (Pango Font error)
[01:58] <DooderZ> oh wow, you guys get bombed all day with questions
[01:58] <NickPresta> DooderZ, all day, everyday.
[01:59] <DooderZ> Well i appreciate any and all hgelp
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ wired or wireless?
[01:59] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: at the moment wired
[01:59] <NickPresta> DooderZ, I missed your problem. Could you explain it again in a sentence or two or pastebin the whole thing? See !pastebin
[01:59] <Dr_willis> We get carpet bombed a lot with questions.. :)
[01:59] <typoe> penguincentral can you network between the local real machine and the virtual machine to share files or anything?
[01:59] <penguincentral> i dunno
[01:59] <DooderZ> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ check ifconfig in konsole to see if your getting assigned an ip?
[01:59] <DooderZ>  Kubuntu on ppc loading screen loads all drivers / random linux stuff, then hangs at kubuntu loading screen, does not boot gui. Anyone know my issue?
[02:00] <DooderZ> it wont load my desktop
[02:00] <NickPresta> DooderZ, have you narrowed this down to an X issue or a startup issue?
[02:00] <DooderZ> im confused
[02:00] <DooderZ> and have no real idea
[02:00] <thomas_newbie__> what command can I issue to see what daemons/services i have running?
[02:00] <DooderZ> is there a way to determine that
[02:00] <DooderZ> ?
[02:00] <NickPresta> DooderZ, first, make sure your session is a fresh, default session. If it hangs again on loading the GUI, we can try reconfiguring X
[02:01] <DooderZ> im not completely cpu retarded i just am a little intimidated by the command structure of linux
[02:01] <typoe> thomas try "ps -ax"
[02:01] <DooderZ> ok nick, should i reboot?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> The shell is easy. :) you just gotta spend some time reading a few tutorials/guides to get the fundamentals down.
[02:01] <NickPresta> DooderZ, okay. Can you get to a login screen where you can select your session type?
[02:01] <DooderZ> yes
[02:01] <DooderZ> im in one
[02:01] <DooderZ> lol
[02:02] <sub[t]rnl> ..huh
[02:02] <NickPresta> DooderZ, okay. First, select a default session (not your previous KDE session). See if you can load your desktop...
[02:02] <DooderZ> the kde isnt loading
[02:02] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: read http://pastebin.ca/876793
[02:03] <DooderZ> Nick > im at a black screen with root@mycpuname
[02:03] <NickPresta> DooderZ, okay. Enter this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:03] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ yeah, we're not getting a network device, just loopback.
[02:03] <NickPresta> DooderZ, let it autodetect your hardware, select a driver, like vesa, which should always work.
[02:03] <DooderZ> its ticking lol
[02:04] <DooderZ> ok auto detect yes
[02:04] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ try sudo ifconfig eth0 up (or whatever the interface is)
[02:04] <DooderZ> select the desired x server driver
[02:04] <DooderZ> im on a g3 ibook
[02:04] <DooderZ> ppc
[02:04] <NickPresta> DooderZ, do you see vesa?
[02:04] <DooderZ> no
[02:05] <NickPresta> DooderZ, what is the default selected driver?
[02:05] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: i ran that command
[02:05] <penguincentral> what now?
[02:05] <DooderZ> ati chips fbdev glint imstt mga nv s3 s3virge savage sis sisusb tdfx trident vga
[02:05] <sub[t]rnl> check ifconfig again
[02:05] <DooderZ> thats whats wvailable
[02:05] <NickPresta> DooderZ, use vga for now.
[02:05] <DooderZ> ok
[02:06] <NickPresta> hey Jucato
[02:06] <DooderZ> i have an ati rage mobility m3 agp 2x
[02:06] <Jucato> yo
[02:06] <DooderZ> apparantly
[02:06] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ any change in ifconfig?
[02:06] <sub[t]rnl> heyas j
[02:06] <DooderZ> use kernel frame buffer device interface
[02:06] <DooderZ> ?
[02:06] <DooderZ> yes or no
[02:07] <NickPresta> DooderZ, no.
[02:07] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: http://pastebin.ca/876795
[02:07] <yuriman> is there any way to enable a new fstab without rebooting?
[02:07] <NickPresta> yuriman, `sudo mount -a`
[02:07] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ now try restarting your networking, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:08] <DooderZ> write default files section to configuration file?
[02:08] <NickPresta> DooderZ, yes.
[02:08] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: done tha
[02:08] <penguincentral> that
[02:08] <yuriman> I can't get my UDF disk to mount. Nothing I found on the forums helped.
[02:08] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ see if ifconfig has an IP assigned to eth0 now
[02:08] <DooderZ> ok
[02:08] <DooderZ> now whats
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Hmm isent there a udf filesystem type one uses? What kind of udf disk anyway? dvd?
[02:09] <DooderZ> all done im back at my console
[02:09] <NickPresta> DooderZ, login to your console with your username/password. Type: sudo shutdown -r now
[02:09] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: nope
[02:09] <DooderZ> okies
[02:09] <DooderZ> then reboot im assuming lol
[02:09] <NickPresta> DooderZ, yeah
[02:09] <sub[t]rnl> Dr_willis➜ yeah should be a valid -t option in mount right
[02:10] <DooderZ> Thanks for you help so far NickPresta
[02:10] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ hrm, not sure then :/
[02:10] <Dr_willis> My fstab for my dvd disk --> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0
[02:10] <DooderZ> rebooting
[02:10]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[02:10] <DooderZ> bare with me, it is an old mac
[02:10] <DooderZ> lol
[02:10] <penguincentral> maybe a VM reboot is in order
[02:11] <DooderZ> cross your fingers
[02:11] <DooderZ> ok
[02:11] <DooderZ> it loaded all that stuff
[02:11] <max-p> Can someone help me with Pango and Firefox? (font problem I think)
[02:12] <DooderZ> went to go to the kubuntu desktop but hangs at the black screen with blue kubuntu and an empty load bar
[02:12] <sub[t]rnl> yuriman➜ do you have something similar to what Dr_willis' fstab post?
[02:12] <DooderZ> same thing
[02:12] <NickPresta> DooderZ, give it a minute. It might seem like it's hanging but it might take a while.
[02:12] <NickPresta> DooderZ, how long do you usually give it?
[02:12] <DooderZ> i gave it 2 hours today
[02:12] <DooderZ> normally it boots everything within 5 mins
[02:13] <DooderZ> but its never hung here where it is
[02:13] <DooderZ> the hd isnt doing anything
[02:13] <SexyFabiola1> We have a new adult forum including por-no and adult materials called Exotics Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com ... Would you like to join and share adult materials ??? Thank you !
[02:13] <SexyFabiola1> look at what you miss : http://imgxxx.com/users/ItSp/8qmyexu2aomff5yna1rj.jpg
[02:13] <DooderZ> yeah its just chilin
[02:13] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: it worked after the reboot :)
[02:14] <NickPresta> DooderZ, ah okay. Well, you can reboot and when you get to the screen where you select your operating system(s), press E (I believe) to edit the current boot options. Remove the word 'splash' from the line, if you can.
[02:14] <DooderZ> ok
[02:14] <penguincentral> SexyFabiola1: wtf? you haven't heard of the Ubuntu CoC?
[02:14] <DooderZ> 1 sec
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> Last call
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> look at what you miss : http://imgxxx.com/users/ItSp/8qmyexu2aomff5yna1rj.jpg
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> We have a new adult forum including por-no and adult materials called Exotics Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com ... Would you like to join and share adult materials ??? Thank you !
[02:15] <yuriman> sub[t]rnl: which post?
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> ok
[02:15] <DooderZ> the screen that lets me "select my os" says l for gnu/linux or c to boot from cd rom
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> bye
[02:15] <penguincentral> guys, who the hell is SexyFabiola1 anyways?
[02:15] <NickPresta> penguincentral, a spammer. He will be klined soon, I imagine
[02:16] <DooderZ> i cant push anyhing but L or C
[02:16] <DooderZ> so E is out of the question
[02:16] <DooderZ> this mac has nothing but Kubuntu on it
[02:16] <DooderZ> no mac os installed
[02:16] <NickPresta> DooderZ, and this is on the Grub loading screen?
[02:16] <penguincentral> NickPresta: klined?
[02:16] <DooderZ> Grub?
[02:16] <DooderZ> there is no grub bro
[02:16] <Dr_willis> PPC disetn use grub
[02:16] <DooderZ> its yaboot
[02:16] <Seth> penguincentral: k-lined = forcibly banned from all freenode
[02:16] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, ah okay. I'm unexperienced with Kubuntu on PPC.
[02:17] <penguincentral> Seth: good!
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Ive given up on PPC linux. :) too many hassles
[02:17] <DooderZ> =(
[02:17] <Dr_willis> I just have an old iMac DV.
[02:17] <DooderZ> the first screen i get is "First stage ubuntu bootstrap"
[02:17] <NickPresta> DooderZ, sorry then. I suppose I'm all out of ideas. I would imagine the next logical step would be to remove the splash screen (the Kubuntu loading bar screen) so you could see any errors that may have occurred.
[02:17] <yuriman> Dr_willis: have you seen the UDF mounting problem such as this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616674
[02:17] <DooderZ> then "Second stage ubuntu bootstrap"
[02:18] <Dr_willis> yuriman,  im not sure i have anything that even is udf. :) so ive never seen any udf problems
[02:18] <DooderZ> anymore ideas?
[02:18] <DooderZ> id like to reformat
[02:18] <DooderZ> and reinstall it
[02:18] <DooderZ> if possible
[02:19] <DooderZ> i figure that would fix it
[02:19] <NickPresta> DooderZ, if you have some spare time, that might not be a bad idea. I would assume it would clear up any problems.
[02:19] <DooderZ> question is how
[02:19] <DooderZ> my live cd has the same issue
[02:19] <DooderZ> sasme problem
[02:19] <DooderZ> *same
[02:19] <DooderZ> i installed from the desktop
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[02:20]  * NickPresta sighs
[02:20] <NickPresta> Tonight must be spam night
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[02:21] <NickPresta> thanks, sub[t]rnl
[02:21] <DooderZ> can i format from the root@mycpuname screen?
[02:21] <DooderZ> with like fdisk or somehting?
[02:24] <ahmos> from where I can download a driver for my nvidia 7300 LE graphic card
[02:24] <max-p> Where is the font directory located?
[02:24] <NickPresta> !nvidia | ahmos
[02:24] <ubotu> ahmos: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <Dr_willis> max-p,  the users can have their own .fonts directory.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> max-p,  you can also enter 'fonts://' in the file manager
[02:25] <DooderZ> so
[02:25] <NickPresta> DooderZ, you can, using fdisk, but if you prefer, there is a GUI utility on the LiveCD. I would try to burn another LiveCD and see if you can get it to run.
[02:25] <DooderZ> um reinstalling from my root screen
[02:25] <ahmos> Thanks for help :)
[02:25] <DooderZ> i did that nick
[02:25] <DooderZ> it still wont boot
[02:25] <max-p> Dr_willis: I know that, but I need to change de permissions of some fonts (which cause an other big problem)
[02:26] <DooderZ> it hangs at the same spot
[02:26] <mixed> anyone here ever used terminatorX?
[02:26] <DooderZ> as the hdd boot
[02:26] <NickPresta> mixed, I like rosegarden for audio synthesis. I've never tried terminatorx.
[02:27] <DooderZ> how do i format my whole hd with fdisk?
[02:27] <DooderZ> oh wait a tick
[02:27] <Dr_willis> You fdisk a disk with fdisk
[02:27] <Dr_willis> you format with mkfs :)
[02:28] <DooderZ> oh
[02:28] <DooderZ> lol
[02:28] <Dr_willis> delete all partitions. make a new one of the type you want, use mkfs.whatever /dev/whatever
[02:28] <DooderZ> how would i go about doing that with linux running?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> You are formating the disk you booted from?
[02:28] <DooderZ> lol
[02:28] <DooderZ> should i run the live cd and do it from the konsole or whatever cause the desktop enviroment wont boot
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Its best to do disk partitionig with the live cd
[02:29] <DooderZ> ok
[02:29] <Dr_willis> The installeer can format the partitions and fdisk them as needed automaticlaly also.
[02:29] <DooderZ> is there a way to like reset your distro to default without rebooting? like a kubuntu reovery menu?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> I normally just fdisk and delete the partitions leaving the whole HD unallocated.. and let the installer do the work
[02:30] <Dr_willis> 'reset the disrto to default' :) dosent really work. Heh
[02:30] <DooderZ> i mean like recover how it ran b4 it messed up
[02:30] <Dr_willis> reset what exactly?  you want all your config changes gone? all users home dirs?
[02:30] <DooderZ> like restore default setting
[02:30] <Dr_willis> Thers no 'snapshot' feature in linux.
[02:30] <DooderZ> yes
[02:30] <DooderZ> theres a snapshot folder on the live cd
[02:30] <DooderZ> lol
[02:30] <Dr_willis> the package manager has a purge option, you could use.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> For Pictures perhaps?
[02:31] <DooderZ> might that work?
[02:31] <Roy_M> What program do people currently use to do NAT with the 2.6 kernel. I always hear that ip chains was used with the 2.2 kernel and iptables was used with the 2.4 kernel, what should I use with the 2.6 kernel?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> iptables is 2.4+  I belive
[02:31] <NickPresta> Roy, I still use iptables.
[02:32] <DooderZ> if i set up my webcam would one of you watch my boot?
[02:32] <Roy_M> Dr_willis and NickPresta, ok great, thanks. My only other question is how ipmasquerading fits into the equation. Do i need to use that in addition to some IPtables commands?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> ipmaq is set up using iptables commands
[02:33] <smith> woot latest kde update to hardy fixes flash in konqeror for me
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Theres a Ipmasquerading/Nat Howto.  - ive not used it in years.
[02:33] <Roy_M> Dr_willis, Thanks champ. I'll have a read
[02:33] <DooderZ> dr_willis> would you watch my boot if i gave you a link to a live stream?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> DooderZ,  and do what exactly? :)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> that almost sounds dirty... :P
[02:34] <DooderZ> then you would see exactley what is going on
[02:34] <DooderZ> hahaha
[02:34] <DooderZ> sorry
[02:34] <DooderZ> and maybe have a better idea
[02:34] <DooderZ> i feel like im not explaining my problem properly
[02:34] <Dr_willis> i cant even rember what the exact problem was. :P
[02:35] <DooderZ> i think it has a very simple answer
[02:35] <DooderZ> so would you please?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> You still trying to whipe the disk or what exactly?
[02:35] <DooderZ> nono
[02:35] <DooderZ> i just want you to see my boot
[02:35] <DooderZ> and what it does when it goes to load the desktop enviro
[02:35] <smith> sounds a bit kinky Dr_willis
[02:36] <DooderZ> omg
[02:36] <Dr_willis> if you insist.. i doubt if  i can see much. :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> i gotta go to work in 1/2 an hr also.
[02:36] <Dr_willis> "Hot Booting Web Cam! on #kubuntu" :)
[02:36] <DooderZ> well i could screen cap it with monitor output stuff but that would take longer
[02:36] <DooderZ> lol
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Check out that Bios.
[02:36] <DooderZ> HAHAHA
[02:36] <DooderZ> OMG YOUR GRUB IS SO HOT
[02:37] <DooderZ> lol
[02:37] <Jucato> ahem...
[02:37] <Dr_willis> So the thing boots to the desktop then fails to do somthing?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> or is even that failing
[02:38] <DooderZ> no
[02:38] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, from what I understood, it hangs during boot up (at the Kubuntu loading bar screen)
[02:38] <DooderZ> no desktop
[02:38] <DooderZ> yeah
[02:38] <DooderZ> well
[02:38] <DooderZ> the loading bar screen
[02:38] <DooderZ> happens
[02:38] <DooderZ> finishes
[02:38] <DooderZ> dissapears
[02:38] <DooderZ> brings up a fresh one
[02:38] <DooderZ> and does nothing
[02:38] <DooderZ> thats my issue
[02:39] <Dr_willis> So the Desktop is failing to even start. - You may want to try the Alterntive Installer cd. If thre is such a thing for PPC.
[02:39] <DooderZ> i have no idea
[02:39] <DooderZ> i hate installing by hand
[02:39] <Dr_willis> check the ppc ubuntu pages I guess..
[02:39] <DooderZ> i always f' it up
[02:39] <Dr_willis> thers nothign to install by hand with the alt installer. it just dosent use the livecd/desktop installer
[02:39] <Dr_willis> it uses a text basee ond.
[02:39] <DooderZ> yeah
[02:40] <Agent_bob> ctrl+alt+f1    login and issue   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop ;startx
[02:40] <DooderZ> and that involves me installing a bunch of packages by hand normally
[02:40] <DooderZ> ok bob
[02:40] <DooderZ> ill do it on cam
[02:40] <DooderZ> lol
[02:40] <Dr_willis> No idea what you would install by hand.. the alt-installer cd - installs an identical system to the livd-cd installer.
[02:40] <DooderZ> 1 sec
[02:40] <niall_> hi
[02:41] <niall_> I managed to install flash
[02:41] <NickPresta> hi, niall_
[02:41] <niall_> but it only works in firefox, and not konquerer :(
[02:41] <niall_> on youtube I hear sound but get no video
[02:41] <Agent_bob> DooderZ if that doesn't give you a gui then look for "EE" in the text output
[02:41] <Dr_willis> niall_,  yep. Thats whats holdingup the flash fix.
[02:41] <niall_> ah :(
[02:41] <Dr_willis> konwueror and flash are not playing nicely.
[02:41] <DooderZ> bob ok gimme a sec
[02:41] <thomas_newbie__> what command can I issue to see what daemons such as ssh or apache i have running?
[02:42] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ ps pstree top ksysguard and many others
[02:42] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: ctrl+esc?
[02:42] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, `ps -u daemon`, `ps aux`
[02:43]  * Agent_bob likes pstree
[02:43] <Bayko_> hey guys
[02:43] <DooderZ> ok cams up
[02:43] <DooderZ> 	http://www.stickam.com/profile/profligate
[02:43] <james__> Hello All
[02:43] <Bayko_> how is everyone?
[02:43] <don_> great
[02:44] <Bayko_> this is first time on linux IRC
[02:44] <NickPresta> Bayko_, welcome :)
[02:44] <Bayko_> anyone recommend ne good linux games?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !info rocksanddiamonds
[02:44] <ubotu> Package rocksanddiamonds does not exist in gutsy
[02:44] <don_> what games you like
[02:44] <DooderZ> dr willis
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !info rocksndiamonds
[02:44] <ubotu> rocksndiamonds (source: rocksndiamonds): Arcade style game. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 3.2.3-3 (gutsy), package size 384 kB, installed size 1256 kB
[02:44] <Jucato> !games
[02:44] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Thats a must get game. :P
[02:44] <Bayko_> on my windows computer i play CS, WOW,
[02:45] <NickPresta> Bayko_, you can play those on Kubuntu
[02:45] <Dr_willis> IRC is the ultimate game. :P
[02:45] <Bayko_> can u guys private msg me?
[02:45] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: ps -u daemon doesn't give me anything, and I have apache running
[02:46] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, that means that apache isn't running as the 'daemon' user
[02:46] <DooderZ> dr_willis> i sent u the link
[02:46] <james__> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 and I'm looking for a web site that can walk me through setting it up now that i have it on my hard drive
[02:46] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ try pstree
[02:46] <Dr_willis> DooderZ,  i see 'no image' :)
[02:47] <DooderZ> ?
[02:47] <DooderZ> its running
[02:47] <Bayko_> how do i register so i can PM?
[02:47] <DooderZ> it doesnt even say i have a viewer
[02:47] <Dr_willis> age 24 Male. .. Hobbies are are Cat Waxing, and  Needlepoint.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:47] <NickPresta> !register | Bayko_
[02:47] <ubotu> Bayko_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:47] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: yea I like that thanks
[02:47] <Bayko_> thank you ubotu
[02:48] <DooderZ> 1 sec willis
[02:48] <DooderZ> i used a bad setting
[02:48] <Bayko_> do i put the register command right in this channel?
[02:48] <Agent_bob> no
[02:49] <Agent_bob> Bayko_ use the server window  then if you mess up we dont see it
[02:52] <vicky_> You know when you go to the "get new wallpapers" button when you want to change the desktop wallpaper? Is there any way to put a folder or another website on there?
[02:52] <DooderZ> dr willis can u pm me so i dont have to post th enew link
[02:52] <DooderZ> its my personal acct
[02:53] <FunnyLookinHat> Will the next Kubuntu Alpha have a KDE4 Branch to test?
[02:53] <DooderZ> ohhh unrekistered
[02:53] <DooderZ> = no pm
[02:53] <DooderZ> lol
[02:53] <DooderZ> http://www.stickam.com/profile/profligateson
[02:53] <DooderZ> cams up
[02:53] <DooderZ> let me know when you can see it
[02:53] <DooderZ> feel free to enter the caht
[02:53] <DooderZ> so we can talk in there
[02:54] <DooderZ> dr_willis?
[02:55] <DooderZ> Nick?
[02:56] <DooderZ> Willis?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> lets see
[02:56] <DooderZ> Jesus?
[02:56] <DooderZ> can u see my cam?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Yes its working..
[02:56] <DooderZ> ok
[02:56] <Dr_willis> and i got tio go to work in 5 min. :)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> The Kubuntu PPC boot sequence is prettier then the  Normal one. :)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> and X is failing to start up like we said earlier. You could Login and try 'startx'
[02:59] <Dr_willis>  this is booting the Live cd? or is this an installed system>?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> No screens found ==> X is totally miss-configured it seems
[03:01] <DooderZ> ok
[03:01] <DooderZ> whats that  reconfigure cmd again
[03:01] <Dr_willis> I forget. :)
[03:01] <Dr_willis> And clean up your room! its a mess!
[03:01] <NickPresta> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:02] <Dr_willis> work time for me. BYe - good luck
[03:02] <NickPresta> later, Dr_willis
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Let Sleeping Dogs Lie. :)
[03:02] <DooderZ> lol
[03:02] <DooderZ> my rooms clean
[03:02] <DooderZ> lol
[03:02] <DooderZ> LOL
[03:02] <DooderZ> ty nick
[03:02] <wad> I'm trying to get my wireless adapter working. I need to put a line in my /etc/network/interfaces file like "wpa-driver BLAH". How do I figure out what to put here?
[03:04] <DooderZ> i just sharted
[03:04] <DooderZ> its working
[03:04] <DooderZ> jesus loves my mac
[03:04] <DooderZ> TY ALL!
[03:04] <DooderZ> OMG
[03:04] <DooderZ> THANK YOU NICK!
[03:04] <NickPresta> DooderZ, no problem. Enjoy it.
[03:04] <DooderZ> thank you DR_WILLIS!
[03:04] <DooderZ> I WILL!
[03:04] <DooderZ> i can run my server again
[03:04] <DooderZ> im sooo ohappy
[03:04] <DooderZ> thank you thank you thank you!
[03:04] <Agent_bob>     We noticed that you're using an unsupported browser. The TripAdvisor
[03:04] <Agent_bob>     website may not display properly.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:09] <Bayko_> thank you
[03:09] <Jucato> and #winehq for more specific help
[03:09] <Bayko_> !appdb
[03:09] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:09] <NickPresta> Bayko_, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3731
[03:09] <biovore> Bayko_: linux gamers has some stuff on it.. run it in dx8 for max performance
[03:12] <ubuntu> I've booted from a live cd, how do I mount my hdd? It tells me fixed-mount refused uid 999?
[03:13] <Bayko> how can i see if im registered?
[03:13] <Bayko> i did the register command and reconnected
[03:14] <Bayko> do i have to log in?
[03:14] <Jucato> Bayko: do a /whois on your nick, it will say if you're an identified user
[03:14] <Jucato> seems like you aren't
[03:15] <jetsaredim> if I'm able to make an iso of a dvd in k3b (meaning it could be read), I should be able to play said dvd with kaffiene
[03:15] <jetsaredim> right?
[03:15] <Bayko> do i have to log in?
[03:15] <Agent_bob> ubuntu   sudo mount /dev/<device_node> /mnt
[03:16] <Agent_bob> Bayko yes.   but your irc client can be setup to do that automaticly
[03:19] <niall_> teckstacy: hi
[03:23] <Jucato> Bayko: success
[03:23] <Bayko> :D
[03:23] <Jucato> [11:23] [Whois] Bayko is an identified user.
[03:23] <Bayko> wat was that program for windows apps?
[03:23] <Jucato> !wine | Bayko
[03:23] <ubotu> Bayko: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:24] <Bayko> alright thanks guys
[03:24] <Bayko> sleep now wrk tmrw morning
[03:24] <Bayko> thanks jucato ill prolly msg u tmrw
[03:25] <Jucato> Bayko: or ask in here for more help
[03:25] <Bayko> o ok sorry
[03:25] <Bayko> goodnight
[03:28] <Dogface> Hate to ask a really simple question here... but can't find it in the info and have wasted a lot of time fishing tonight.  how is a newly installed software added to the main pull down Kmenu?
[03:28] <jetsaredim> should be automagically during the debconf
[03:28] <jetsaredim> during the install
[03:29] <Jucato> if the package/app has a proper .desktop file, it should be added automatically
[03:29] <Dogface> Hmmmmm
[03:29] <Jucato> some apps, like command line utilities or apps, don't
[03:30] <Jucato> you can try adding it if it
[03:30] <Jucato> it's listed in "kappfinder" or add it manually
[03:30] <Dogface> I seem to remember some command that was supposed to update the menu somehow
[03:30] <Jucato> (or report a bug)
[03:30] <Jucato> Dogface: "kbuildsycoca" updates it
[03:30] <Dogface> THAT was it.  Sounds familiar immediately
[03:31] <ahmos> How I can install a program as a root?
[03:31] <penguincentral> ahmos: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[03:32] <Dogface> was that supposed to work for kde/dapper or was it any different?
[03:32] <Jucato> Dogface: kbuildsycoca? that's a standard KDE command. no matter what distro/version
[03:33] <ahmos> thank's
[03:44] <Agent_bob> anyone know off hand a good source for downloadable maps/atlas'  ?
[03:48] <ahmos> sorry I'm confused..I have this file name (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run) in the home folder and I want to install it.
[03:51] <Agent_bob> bash ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run
[03:51] <Agent_bob> maybe needs sudo
[03:52] <ahmos> ok it worked but how to close the x server
[03:54] <justin__> i use crossover office to play wow, and it works fine in gnome...but when i try to access it in the new KDE4 it will let me use the program, but there is no sound, i've tried searching for more info, but can't find it on the internet...i'm assuming it has something to do with the new kde4 sound system, but i don't know
[03:55] <Agent_bob> ahmos sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[04:00] <AMcBain> Having only had this installed since last night, I've gone through some adventures like trying to install Compiz-Fusion and having it mess everything up. However, the main greatest annoyance I can't find the setting for is that when windows start up they will almost always attach themselves to a screen-corner. Any idea why? (or how to fix)
[04:03] <Agent_bob> i wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.
[04:04] <AMcBain> Which the setting or Compiz-Fusion? I had to disable the CF cause it messed things up so bad I couldn't really do anything. I got good at hitting alt+F2 and typing the command to enable the default KDE item ...
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> .
[04:04] <Agent_bob> the question.    all windows should default to opening in grid 0,0
[04:05] <Agent_bob> you can set them to remember the last location and size if you like.
[04:05] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ open the compiz config settings manager (ccsm) -> wobbly windows -> and uncheck snap inverted
[04:06] <AMcBain> Well, some don't. I've seen them attach to the lower left, lower right, and I think the upper left once. (mostly the upper left, however, which is 0,0) I just want to to make them appear more inset, or at least remember where they were last opened. And I disabled Compix-Fusion.
[04:06] <AMcBain> Compiz*
[04:06] <AMcBain> upper right once*
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> well, thats how you fix it anyway
[04:07] <justin__> can anyone help me with a sound problem in kde4
[04:08] <Invisible_Slack> I'm trying to unload Module wlan and wlan_scan everytime I try to "rmmod wlan" it says its being used and won't unload how can I get this module unloaded?
[04:08] <Agent_bob> AMcBain normall kde   upper-left box/menu of the app window advanced settings for each type of app/window has lots of things you can twiddle with
[04:09] <Agent_bob> amongst the many are "remember position"  and "remember size"
[04:11] <AMcBain> Cool thanks.
[04:12] <AMcBain> (and I'm glad there was a solution rather than me spewing my "uneducated" opinion on the channel being an ubuntu n00b)
[04:12] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack   lsmod | grep wlan    and  sudo modprobe -r <each of them?>
[04:13] <Jimche> hey is anyone free to help ?
[04:13] <Jimche> still mega noob here
[04:13] <Agent_bob> AMcBain also of note for future referance.    kde is also known as "right click and configure it"
[04:14] <AMcBain> Well, while I'm here, is there any way to get it to turn off the laptop monitor? I use an external and the laptop monitor is smaller and wider, so it just displays everything at the same size and location as the external and it is rather redundant. I have checked out the various display settings.
[04:14] <AMcBain> Okay.
[04:14] <Agent_bob> AMcBain just a tip that comes in handy
[04:14] <mixed> anyone knows how to make jack work?
[04:14] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, slacker@slacker-laptop:~/madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>/scripts$ sudo modprobe -r wlan
[04:14] <Invisible_Slack> FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ what video card do you use?
[04:15] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack and wlan was the only module that the first command returned ?
[04:15] <AMcBain> Heh, well that's just it. This is an ultra portable laptop with no card to speak of, only intel integrated which sucks even for the Windows OS ...
[04:15] <Jimche> OK well i gotta new wireless brother fax/scanner/thingy and it has wireless capabilities.... The software that comes with it is a Mac or windows program... what do i do ???????
[04:16] <AMcBain> (my next PC will have much better stats, this one I won and it was good at the time ...)
[04:16] <Agent_bob> AMcBain oh intel integrated,  very well supported in linux.
[04:16] <Invisible_Slack> same for wlan_scan_ath it won't shutdown either of those
[04:17] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ I'm running off a laptop now, and use have an external display that I use.  (it has an intel based graphics card as well)
[04:17] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, slacker@slacker-laptop:~/madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>/scripts$ lsmod | grep wlan
[04:17] <Invisible_Slack> wlan_scan_sta          15104  1
[04:17] <Invisible_Slack> wlan                  206660  4 wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[04:17] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack  there's your list.  wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[04:18] <Agent_bob> ath_pci
[04:18] <Agent_bob> ath_rate_sample
[04:18] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, well I'll be damned it worked, I tried getting them to stop 5 minutes ago but they wouldn't
[04:19] <AMcBain> Well, in the "Monitor & Display" settings, there is a box for a second screen, but it is grayed out, and the radio button says "clone of primary" ...
[04:19] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, thnx, this laptop is rather old and for some reason everytime I load a app or switch windows it freezes for a sec mouse won't move etc, making me frustrated lol
[04:19] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ you'll need to sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and then reconfigure your xorg.conf to use the "intel" driver
[04:19] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack no. they are order sensitive.   when you get the one holding up the show the rest will unload just fine....  :)
[04:19] <Jimche> OK well i gotta new wireless brother fax/scanner/thingy.... The software that comes with it is a Mac or windows program... what do i do ???????
[04:20] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack and.  welcome.
[04:20] <Invisible_Slack> Thnx I'm a old Slackeware User from 9.0 that hasn't touched linux in almost 4 years :S
[04:21] <AMcBain> sub[t]rnl, where would the xorg.conf go? (dir)
[04:21] <Agent_bob> slakware 9 old  heh.  i still have 4.0 on floppys.
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ its located in /etc/X11/
[04:21] <justin__> i use crossover office to play wow, and it works fine in gnome...but when i try to access it in the new KDE4 it will let me use the program, but there is no sound, i've tried searching for more info, but can't find it on the internet...i'm assuming it has something to do with the new kde4 sound system, but i don't know
[04:21] <justin__> any suggestions
[04:22] <Agent_bob> !kde4 | justin__ just one !!!
[04:22] <ubotu> justin__ just one !!!: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:22] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, hehe yea 9.0 is old I remember being decent, but man I forgot some much stuff, any idea why my mouse/system would freeze randomly on a fresh install?
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ be sure to create a backup before editing it.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through a complete reconfiguration of the file via ncurses.
[04:24] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack probably some peace of hardware not configured correctly, i.e. i/o error   you can check "dmesg"  and the syslogs for clues.
[04:24] <mixed> Ha!  I found out how to become invisible in this room, just mention jack or alsa. :-)
[04:24] <mixed> !jack
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <mixed> !alsa
[04:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:24] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, thnx I'll check dmesg and syslog, where is the syslog located again? lol
[04:25] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack unfortunately the more they try to make it "just work" the more they produce these kinds of "ooops"'s
[04:25] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack /var/log/*
[04:26]  * Agent_bob is not a fan of automatic krap !
[04:26] <Invisible_Slack> yea as i'm finding out, trying to install madwifi and its giving error's already this is a fresh install how can I have error's!! lol :P
[04:27] <Invisible_Slack> i know its avaliable via package manager I installed that but couldn't find where to start the module etc so I removed it and opted to do it the old fashioned way
[04:27] <Agent_bob> !madwifi
[04:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:27] <Invisible_Slack> I hate bots that are smarter then me ;p
[04:28] <Agent_bob> ubotu introduce yourself
[04:28] <Agent_bob> oh well.   shy bot
[04:28] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[04:28] <Invisible_Slack> :P
[04:29] <Agent_bob> ubotu hello
[04:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:29] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[04:29] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:29] <AMcBain> sub[t]rnl I don't think that really changed anything, but oh well ...
[04:31] <firecrotch> So that's how to get people to shut up....
[04:31] <Agent_bob> bah   i have to go for an "end service" tomarrow.   i hate those things.   but if you want "the people" to pay you you have to go to them....
[04:32] <AMcBain> I'll just put the original conf file back ...
[04:32] <Invisible_Slack> "end service"?
[04:32] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack that's the official name.
[04:32] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ you'll need to restart kdm for it to take effect.
[04:32] <AMcBain> oh
[04:32] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, Military?
[04:32] <AMcBain> Can I do that without having to log out then back in?
[04:33] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack no. civilian.
[04:33] <sub[t]rnl> you'll have to login to kdm
[04:33] <Invisible_Slack> Bah, I miss my main PC, damn Motherboard had to go out on me making me RMA it;(
[04:33] <sub[t]rnl> unless you have it setup to auto login
[04:33] <AMcBain> enh, I'll just log out and back in, it's easiest.
[04:33] <AMcBain> brb
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> lol, Don't Panic
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> funny
[04:35] <AMcBain> Nope nothing new that I can see.
[04:36] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl best quit message i can recall seeing was "i believe that the answer to the population problem is to remove all warning lables and let nature run it's course!"
[04:36] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, i've heard that before.  good stuff
[04:36]  * AMcBain gives up.
[04:36] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, Ok I'm at the website the bot showed me and its telling me to run a svn command but its telling me command unknown for SVN
[04:37] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, tried "apt-get install svn" but says can't find a svn package
[04:37] <firecrotch> !info svn
[04:37] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ now that your using the intel driver, you should be able to switch displays however you'd like them using xrandr
[04:37] <ubotu> Package svn does not exist in gutsy
[04:37] <firecrotch> !info subversion
[04:37] <ubotu> subversion (source: subversion): Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4dfsg1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 235 kB, installed size 3392 kB
[04:37] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ google for some examples of how to use it
[04:37] <Agent_bob> check that the instruction are for the release you are using   ;/
[04:37] <firecrotch> Invisible_Slack:  Package name is "subverson"
[04:37] <firecrotch> *subversion
[04:38] <AMcBain> Yeah, but shouldn't there be some kind of GUI associated with xrandr? I'm not against command lines, it's just that the Linux one is not my native CL ...
[04:39] <Agent_bob> AMcBain :)
[04:39] <ahmos> I can't install the nvidia river after closing the x server ....no such file message
[04:39] <firecrotch> AMcBain: There is one called URandR, but I know absolutely nothing about it
[04:40] <Agent_bob> ahmos you may have put it in ~/Desktop/*   ?     what command are you issuing ?
[04:40] <AMcBain> I can't really help that this is the first time I have really used Linux and my ideas of taste are shaped by XP (which is rather stable, which is surprising given M$)
[04:41] <firecrotch> AMcBain:  You get over that, eventually :) I know I did
[04:41] <ahmos> first (cd /home/ahmos/Desktop) then(sudo bash and the file name)
[04:41] <Agent_bob> ahmos are you sure that it's in that dir ?
[04:41] <Agent_bob> look in ..
[04:42] <ahmos> yes but I close x server by ALT+CTRL+ F2
[04:42] <Agent_bob> that's not closed.  alt+f7 and you are back in it.
[04:43] <AMcBain> firecrotch: Well, I rather like XP, but not for it being an M$ product, but I also like Linux just because it's rather nice. My next PC will have tons of space (keep saying that because I'm not dreaming, I will need one about the time summer starts) and I can give Linux as much space as I want. (and do whatever I want) Right now it's rather limited as I didn't have a ton of left over space to give it.
[04:43] <ahmos> so I try ALT + F7 now?!
[04:44] <Agent_bob> ahmos to close xorg you have to kill kdm    "or what ever dm started it"
[04:45] <ahmos> man I'm a one week linux user so plz tell me how to kill kdm or what shall I do?
[04:46] <Invisible_Slack> ps -aux
[04:46] <typoe> from commans line type killall kdm
[04:46] <Agent_bob> ahmos by default linux opens six vertual terminals (consoles) and the ubuntu default is to open a seventh one with the display manager running in it.  "kdm for kubuntu and gdm for ubuntu"    you may switch between these vt's with the hotkeys  ctrl+alt+f#
[04:46] <Invisible_Slack> find ou what ID gdm or kdm iand type kill ID
[04:46] <typoe> killall is easier
[04:46] <Invisible_Slack> lol
[04:47] <Agent_bob> ahmos you can kill the dm but issuning a command to stop the process    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop      and start it again the same way.
[04:47] <typoe> killall is easier
[04:47] <Agent_bob> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start   < to start it.
[04:47] <Agent_bob> typoe not always.
[04:48] <Agent_bob> typoe and killall doesn't start it back up.
[04:48] <ahmos> I'm going to try now
[04:48] <Invisible_Slack> killall would do alot mo then kill just your gdm
[04:48] <Invisible_Slack> lol
[04:48] <Agent_bob> ahmos the command to list the contents of a dirrectory is ls (lower case LS)
[04:49] <ahmos> ok
[04:49] <typoe> slack you need to man killall
[04:49] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack no not "killall5"  killall blah   would only kill "blah"   killall5 is the unix killall eq.
[04:50] <Invisible_Slack> I thought just "killall" killed everything, if you put something behind it then it kill just that.. like killall mysql
[04:50] <Agent_bob> that's killall5   ^
[04:50] <Invisible_Slack> it would kill all the mysql process's, my bad
[04:50] <typoe> slack you maybe thinking of solaris killall or something, we are using linux
[04:51] <Agent_bob> killall blah kills blah and it's children    killall5 kills everything that it can kill no matter how or why.
[04:51] <slyboots> Hello :)
[04:51] <typoe> killall5 only good for shutdown not for this
[04:52] <Agent_bob> typoe but i like kill -9 -1   for that.
[04:52] <slyboots> Does anyone know any guides for getting the Thinkpad R61i features working in KDE (Kubuntu) Having issues with a few of the speical keys and ACPI does not seem to be working correctly (The laptop died from lack of battery power without warning me or hibernating the machine)
[04:52] <typoe> well, if you want it dead without any nice shutdown, ok
[04:53] <typoe> easir to hit reset button
[04:53] <Agent_bob> that will mess up file systems
[04:53] <typoe> kill -9 1 might mess up file systems too
[04:54] <Agent_bob> magic sysRQ to the rescue.
[04:54] <Agent_bob> typoe nah.  just kills what can be killed.   doesn't umount anything nor reboot
[04:54] <firecrotch> In theory, any time you kill a process that is in the middle of doing something, you can mess up a filessytem
[04:54] <Agent_bob> firecrotch ?
[04:54] <biovore> most likly just leave a mess on the filesystem
[04:55] <typoe> fiecrotch in theory all progams are buggy or trivial
[04:55] <Agent_bob> yeah i agree.   mess on it,  not break it.
[04:55] <Invisible_Slack> the damn package manager crashed and now I can't get it started its locked lol
[04:56] <biovore> !apt_fix
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt_fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <biovore> !aptfix
[04:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:56] <firecrotch> !adeptfix | Invisible_Slack
[04:56] <ubotu> Invisible_Slack: please see above
[04:56]  * firecrotch shakes fist @ biovore
[04:56] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrash
[04:56] <slyboots> Well, What application controls power managment under KDE?
[04:56] <typoe> slack I think if you try apt from the command line it might show you the command to unlock it
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> guidance-power-manager
[04:57] <slyboots> Hm, thats already running
[04:57] <slyboots> But my brightness keys don't appear to be working as they should (hitting them does nothing) and low battery warning is not kicking in, o rwarning or doing much of anything
[04:58] <deuryt1> can some one do me a favor ??
[04:58] <typoe> use power cord then
[04:58] <AMcBain> Mine properly detects I went to battery ...
[04:58] <Agent_bob> deuryt1 yes
[04:58] <typoe> yes I know, not a helpful suggestion
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> -1 typoe
[04:59] <deuryt1> can you please go to #politics,  look for "xcell", tell him i am in this room,
[04:59] <slyboots> It detects when Im on the battery, it just does nothing when the battery is low like it should, (its detecting the "percentage" of battery level
[04:59] <Agent_bob> deuryt1 are you banned there ?
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> deuryt1➜ you could use /notice
[05:00] <firecrotch> deuryt1:  Can't you just /msg him?
[05:00] <Agent_bob> deuryt1 and yeah what firecrotch said ^
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> most likely he's not registered
[05:00] <deuryt1> no, it says i must be identified 1st,  i was just there 30 min agao, i might have messed up a setting some where, not sure........
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> try /notice
[05:01] <DuEzZzIeR> hi
[05:01] <deuryt1> im new to kubuntu
[05:01] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl pong
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ :p
[05:03] <slyboots> Apparnelty I need to run "kmilo" to configure my keys correctly, but I cant find where the daemon control for it (kmilo) is
[05:03] <Agent_bob> well i think i better go,  have too much to do to do todays work and tomarrows so i can go that '^@@^%@$^@#%!' end service
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> laters ab
[05:04] <Agent_bob> ttfn said tigger
[05:04] <deuryt1> what does this mean???         Cannot join #politics: Registration is required.
[05:05] <typoe> means you cant join politics I guess
[05:05] <biovore> need to be registered with nick serve to join channel
[05:05] <biovore> !register
[05:05] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:05] <deuryt1> ty
[05:06] <slyboots> Anyone know how I change the keybindings in kMilo? I'm trying to check if the brightness keys are bound to do what they are suppoesd to
[05:06] <slyboots> But I dont see any menu or program to configure that behaviour
[05:07] <typoe> slyb thats a function of the bios isnt it?
[05:07] <slyboots> Its controled by APCI
[05:07] <typoe> oh ok
[05:07] <slyboots> All this works in Gnome, so I dont see why it should not be working in KDE
[05:08] <ahmos> sorry but who was helping me!!!?!!
[05:08] <typoe> theyr gone, whats wrong
[05:09] <ahmos> is there a development package called libc or something?
[05:09] <biovore> I think..
[05:09] <biovore> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <biovore> search
[05:09] <typoe> hehe libc could be called THE development package
[05:10] <biovore> libc5-dev
[05:10] <biovore> libc6-dev
[05:10] <ahmos> yes how to install them
[05:11] <ahmos> i can't find them in the add/remove pro.
[05:11] <typoe> should prolly use adept manager or something like that
[05:11] <biovore> in the shell type: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[05:12] <slyboots> Either Im missing something, or the kubunut-power managment program has no way to configure the kmilo bindings at all
[05:12] <ahmos> I want libc because i couldn't install nvidia driver an it asked to download libc
[05:13] <biovore> I think there is a kmilo packages
[05:13] <ahmos> so I install libc 6 or 5 or the all
[05:13] <slyboots> I've kmilo already installed, I just cant figure out how to configure my brightness buttons
[05:13] <biovore> ahmos: depends on what your building
[05:13] <biovore> probably 6
[05:14] <ahmos> 64 bit
[05:14] <biovore> you building for 64bit on 64bit ?
[05:15] <ahmos> sorry I think I'm confused
[05:18] <ahmos> ok ,how i can open the x server after closing it
[05:19] <biovore> login on the command line
[05:19] <biovore> startx
[05:19] <ahmos> ok thank u
[05:19] <biovore> or
[05:20] <biovore> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:20] <biovore> for the login manager
[05:20] <ahmos> ok
[05:20] <ahmos> I'm going to try again
[05:31] <sigma> when i run ""echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"" it always says permission denied even if i run it as sudo. how do i run it?
[05:33] <preston_baes> i have a quick question
[05:34] <se7en> sigma: echo >> to add something echo > to over write all
[05:34] <preston_baes> i need to know if you can  manually adjust the screen size to where you desktop and start bar fits inside your monitor
[05:35] <sigma> se7en: so what should i type?
[05:35] <sub[t]rnl> might want to use tee
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> echo "whatever" | sudo tee -a /where/ever
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> -a to append
[05:36] <se7en> sigma: i don't know what you want to do if you want your /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward file reads "1" than do > if you want to add "1" do >>
[05:38] <sigma> ok that kinda works. im trying to share my usb internet connection
[05:38] <sigma> let me see if it works
[05:38] <sub[t]rnl> echo "1" | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will work, sudo echo "1" >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will not
[05:39] <ahmos> can I adjust computer to turn off automatically after a specified time
[05:39] <sigma> yeah thats what worked to me
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> ahmos➜ at command
[05:39] <sigma> ahmos: you need to schedule a cronjob
[05:40] <sub[t]rnl> cron even better
[05:40] <ahmos> how
[05:40] <preston_baes> or you bios can do it
[05:40] <preston_baes> some do
[05:40] <preston_baes> mine does
[05:40] <preston_baes> it turns on and shuts down
[05:41] <ahmos> i want to do it with the os
[05:41] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: why do you need tee -a for that
[05:41] <preston_baes> then use what he said
[05:41] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ not sure, just does
[05:42] <ahmos> how to schedule a cronjob?
[05:42] <Invisible_Slack> Ok got the wireless working!! :P now to my next problem
[05:43] <preston_baes> hey sub do you have a idea how i can manually put in my screen size?
[05:43] <Invisible_Slack> Anyone able to give me a hand, I looked in /var/log/syslog to find out if something was conflicting to cause this freezing and noticed alot of 2 problems
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ it seems thats the only way to redirect stdout and have it overwrite root owned files
[05:43] <Invisible_Slack> Jan 28 20:02:13 slacker-laptop kernel: [ 1022.704000] cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[05:44] <Invisible_Slack> Jan 28 20:02:13 slacker-laptop kernel: [ 1022.704000] psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
[05:44] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ /etc/X11/xorg.conf? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for normal configuration
[05:44] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: ok didn
[05:44] <Invisible_Slack> THose are my 2 problems that look to be something bad
[05:44] <se7en> know that
[05:44] <preston_baes> it fails when i do that
[05:44] <preston_baes> when i goto to the adjust color depth it fails
[05:44] <preston_baes> to that point anyways
[05:45] <sigma> i have a kubuntu server, can i get it to start kdm only when im maintaining it? ie- when i normally start it up i don't want kdm to start
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ does it spit out any interesting errors?
[05:45] <preston_baes> not really
[05:45] <preston_baes> i will try it
[05:46] <preston_baes> and give you ther errors
[05:46] <sigma> also if kdm doesnt start how would i get it to login automatically?
[05:46] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ sudo update-rc.d kdm remove, you can always start it via /etc/init.d/kdm start
[05:46] <preston_baes> does kde support high def. tv  screens and if so do you think i might have a problem with a 26in screen?
[05:47] <preston_baes> is that my problem maybe>?
[05:47] <djblizzzard> kde isn't your concern... it's X11 :)
[05:47] <preston_baes> okay
[05:47] <djblizzzard> First, the big question is whether your video card supports HD...
[05:47] <preston_baes> yup
[05:48] <preston_baes> im using it on the livecd right now
[05:48] <preston_baes> but
[05:48] <djblizzzard> what chipset is it?
[05:48] <preston_baes> nvidia 7300le
[05:48] <preston_baes> 256mb
[05:48] <djblizzzard> are you connecting via dvi or hdmi? (just curious more than a functional question0
[05:48] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: ok but if i don't start it up and leave the server unlogged in will i still be able to access apache and nfs?
[05:49] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ thats how I do it
[05:49] <preston_baes> from m y card its dvi to tv its hdmi
[05:49] <preston_baes> so dvi-hdmi
[05:49] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ just boot it up, when I can ping it, I know I can log in, don't even have a monitor attached to my server
[05:49] <djblizzzard> Cuz here's the deal.  It's goint to be misleading to go from the livecd, because you really need to load the nvidia drvier set for your card.  You can try getting the correct resolution with the nv set, however you may/maynot run into difficulty doing so...
[05:50] <preston_baes> okay
[05:50] <preston_baes> i'll install this beast and ill brb in 15
[05:50] <djblizzzard> that being said, it's probably going to be a whole lot easier to prove whether you can or not, if you actually install kubuntu, because the restricted driver manager will try to add nvidia's driver for you...
[05:50] <djblizzzard> :)
[05:51] <djblizzzard> :)
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> smiled yourself right offa freenode, djb
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[05:55] <maduser> que?
[05:56] <sn00zer> is it possible for a mac address to be abnormally long and separated by `-` instead of `:`
[05:56] <maduser> why?
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, I've seen them separated by either
[05:56] <sn00zer> i was looking at ifconfig and my wifi card says the hwaddr is 00-14-a5-ee-fc.......
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> doesn't hurt anything
[05:57] <sn00zer> it has 16 sets of 2
[05:58] <sub[t]rnl> a bunch of 00's?
[05:58] <sn00zer> the last 8 sets
[05:58] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: ok i removed kdm like you said and i can access the server perfectly but it gets to a point "Running local boot scripts" and won't go beyond there
[05:59]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[05:59] <liz_> hey everyone, are there any spyware/antivirus and disk clean up software available for kubuntu????
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ cause theres nothing to do past that
[05:59] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: yeah i see ctrl+d brings up the textmode login prompt. ok cool looks good
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> liz_➜ spyware and virus don't -really- pertain to linux
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> liz_➜ if you do some googling, you'll understand why
[06:00] <sigma> !virus
[06:00] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:00] <sigma> read that article above
[06:01] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: how can i check in the text mode how much memory the pc is using?
[06:01] <liz_> oh ok, cool guys
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ free -m
[06:01] <sigma> wow a whole 204mb. not too bad
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> nice
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> trying to lean it out?
[06:02] <liz_> how about disk defrag and the likes???
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> ext3 is a journalling filesystem, doesn't need "defragged"
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> but there is fsck and such for the drives
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> gets ran on 20? or so harddrive boots
[06:03] <sub[t]rnl> maybe 30
[06:03] <sub[t]rnl> can't remember
[06:03] <cpk1> the only disk maintenence you will really need to do is maybe clear out the package cache if you have a small hard drive
[06:03] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: yeah it only has 256mb memory and for some reason beyond me i didnt create a swap partition
[06:04] <liz_> mine linux partition is 20gb
[06:04] <liz_> my^
[06:04] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ wouldn't worry about, mkswap if you need it
[06:05] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: oh ok thanks. this server has a cronjob that shuts itself down at 10pm everyday, will that still run if i don't login to it when starting it up?
[06:05] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[06:05] <sigma> ok cool
[06:06] <liz_> just wondering, because don't want it to slow down in the long run, not much a concern now :-)
[06:06] <sigma> thanks for all the help. much appreciated
[06:06] <sub[t]rnl> anytime bro
[06:07] <sigma> liz_: linux pc's unlike their windows counterparts don't really slow down in the future
[06:07] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, <3 linux
[06:08] <sigma> a hard drive problem is of course a seperate issue
[06:08] <liz_> sweet, ok, kinda wierd to hear tho
[06:09] <liz_> well thx for the info sigma and sub[t]rnl :-)
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> no problemo
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[06:10] <sigma> kinda weird, ive managed to replace all the windows programs i used in linux except for activesync
[06:10] <sigma> liz_: pleasure
[06:11] <sigma> if only those sad microsoft people would release a opensource version
[06:11] <sigma> but i see synce is coming up slowly but surely. still doesn't quite work for my device though
[06:12] <preston_baes> okay im back
[06:12] <preston_baes> it's installed what do you want me to do now?
[06:13] <liz_> that's awesome, hopefully I'll get to do all that replacing as well :-)
[06:14] <preston_baes> i just got a pop up of a restricted driver saying something about no proprietary driver for my nvidia card is being used
[06:16] <liz_> is there a way to make your text color permanently a diff color?
[06:17] <liz_> on konversation I mean :-)
[06:19] <noaXess> !ntfs
[06:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:22] <liz_> Interesting article, well see you guys another time
[06:22] <sub[t]rnl> take care liz_
[06:23] <preston_baes> hey sub
[06:24] <sub[t]rnl> heyas
[06:24] <preston_baes> im using the nv driver
[06:24] <preston_baes> but i've updated the nvidia stuff through adept
[06:25] <preston_baes> i'm kinda new to kubuntu do you need to restart x b4 things get fully installed?
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> yes sir
[06:25] <preston_baes> kk
[06:25] <preston_baes> brb
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> not fully installed, but take affect
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ let me clarify something
[06:29] <preston_baes> okay
[06:29] <unda> yo anybody?
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ the only reason I said yes was because you mentioned the nv driver.
[06:29] <preston_baes> ok
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ you won't have to restart under normal conditions.. hardly ever.. unless your updating a video driver, xserver itself, or, say a kernel upgrade
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ thats the beauty of linux
[06:30] <preston_baes> okay
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ what can I do you for
[06:31] <preston_baes> well the last time i went from nv to nvidia thats when i restarted and it brought the nvidia sign up and it crashed
[06:31] <preston_baes> saying it could load the splash
[06:31] <preston_baes> couldn't**
[06:31] <unda> im installing kde4
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> !kde4 > unda
[06:32] <unda> but wnted 2 know if i theres something i should know b4 installing it
[06:32] <ol_dude67> unda, ya it has a lot of bugs right now.
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> nothing really.  just keep in mind it just reached its new 4.0 threshold.
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> so a lot of the customizations and such havn't matured
[06:33] <unda> k
[06:33] <calamari> hi
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> glass is half full type stuff :<
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> err, :>
[06:33] <ol_dude67> other then that once they have it straightened out it will be nice.
[06:33] <unda> n its compiz fus availble?
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> its available, sure
[06:34] <sigma> !compiz
[06:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:35] <unda> btw any good wwb with skins or something¡
[06:35] <unda> ?
[06:35] <calamari> I was trying to figure out why my midi daughterboard wasn't working.. so I went to the driver source and found out it was "legacy" and disabled by default.  So, I decided to enable it and compile.  However, for some unknown reason, the linux-source-2.6.20 doesn't seem to actually be the same as the kernel, because the module complains: snd_au8830: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module   how can I fix this?
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> whats wwb?
[06:35] <preston_baes> hey sub how can i add a screen size
[06:35] <unda> web
[06:35] <unda> *site
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> kde-look.org?
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ adding a resolution to your xorg.conf?
[06:36] <unda> well ima change session
[06:36] <preston_baes> yeah
[06:36] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: do you know how to shift a screen slightly to the left? to adjust it
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ can do it by hand, or use the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:37] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ yeah I use the buttons on front of my monitor :>
[06:37] <preston_baes> i cant do that
[06:37] <preston_baes> boohoo
[06:37] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ if your using nvidia, try the nice little nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig that comes with it :)
[06:38] <preston_baes> how do i get into those settings?
[06:38] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: lol kinda hard in my case because its a tv screen im trying to adjust! when my laptop outputs to it, the display is a bit too much to the right on the tv
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ type them in console
[06:38] <preston_baes> okay
[06:39] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: i dont believe how xorg could leave that feature out!
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> muaha
[06:40] <unda> wow ots sw33t
[06:40] <preston_baes> may i paste something here?
[06:40] <preston_baes> ann error
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> yeah its ok, its not busy
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> usually use pastebin though during peak times
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> (i hope its not something huge though.. like your Xorg.0.log)
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'.
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA VCSCs on ':0.0'.
[06:41] <preston_baes> lol
[06:41] <preston_baes> no not that big
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> what command?
[06:41] <preston_baes> westy@westy-desktop:~$ nvidia-xconfig
[06:41] <preston_baes> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[06:42] <Invisible_Slack> is there a way for Kubuntu to automaticly connect to a specific wireless network on start up?
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ ah, use kdesudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:42] <preston_baes> ohh okay
[06:42] <preston_baes> haha
[06:42] <unda> how can i remove the recently open tab
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ system settings -> advanced -> session manager
[06:43] <Invisible_Slack> anyone know how to do that?
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> (not sure if thats what you mean)
[06:43] <preston_baes> got it
[06:43] <preston_baes> hrm
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> Invisible_Slack➜ hrm, if you connect to a wireless network via knetworkmanager, it should try to reconnect to the last "working" wifi network when it starts again
[06:45] <unda> ty ^^
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> Invisible_Slack➜ also, you might want to look at kwifimanager
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> !info kwifimanager | Invisible_Slack
[06:45] <ubotu> invisible_slack: kwifimanager (source: kdenetwork): wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 236 kB, installed size 804 kB
[06:46] <Invisible_Slack> let me try, for some reason using the Madwifi drivers its not using DHCP to get a IP address I'm having to load "Wireless Assistant" Everytime to reconnect
[06:47] <Invisible_Slack> I try KwifiManager but it won't load
[06:47] <unda> how do i enable themes
[06:47] <Invisible_Slack> There we go it's loading.. Let me retry and restart lets see if its using DHCP, which I doubt
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ alt +f2 and enter kcontrol  then go to appearance and themes, theme manager
[06:49] <Jucato> !changethemes
[06:49] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> need to remember that one :>
[06:51] <lamerman> i installed kubuntu server and the program that runned on it crashed. Is it possible to find out why? becouse sigsegv or sigkill or maybe it finished correctly
[06:51] <lamerman> is there some system log that logs it on default
[06:51] <lamerman> ?
[06:58] <sub[t]rnl> lamerman➜ not sure what would log it.  You can comb through /var/log/syslog but I doubt that would have anything relevant.
[07:00] <preston_baes> x crashed woowee
[07:00] <preston_baes> hey sub
[07:00] <preston_baes> i got the error this time
[07:00] <mohd> hi guys. What is KDE's default window decorator?
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ kwin
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ yo
[07:00] <mohd> thanks
[07:01] <preston_baes> fatal io error 104
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> whens that show up?
[07:02] <preston_baes>  and when i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:02] <preston_baes> yeah
[07:02] <preston_baes> right when it loads it crashes to a terminal
[07:02] <mohd> is there any way to use KDE's
[07:02] <mohd> Ceramic theme with compiz?
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ did you make a backup of a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:02] <preston_baes> yes
[07:03] <mohd> How?
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> thats what your on now, i take it?
[07:03] <preston_baes> nope
[07:03] <mohd> compiz, but I think it's using gtk to decorate
[07:03] <preston_baes> thats what i need to know how to go back
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ where did you put the backup?
[07:04] <preston_baes> xserver-xorg overwriting possibley-customissed configuration back up locataed at /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20080129015422
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ emerald is the default window decorator with compiz.  I would imagine you could use the two together just fine
[07:04] <preston_baes> thats what happends when i do the sudo
[07:05] <preston_baes> shows all that
[07:05] <blizzzek> moin
[07:05] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080129015422 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <mohd> sub[t]rnl->I was hoping to use kwin's ceramik theme, i really like it. But I guess I am gonna have to use emerald if I want to use compiz
[07:06] <preston_baes> okay ill try that
[07:06] <preston_baes> brb
[07:06] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ yeah, could be a way to do it though, never give in :>
[07:08] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ check out the compiz-kde package
[07:09] <mohd> hmm, never heard of it. Thanks, i'll check it out
[07:09] <Jucato> mohd: or you could use Aquamarine if it still exists
[07:09] <mohd> It doesn't, I don't think so at least
[07:09] <Jucato> you can ask in #compiz-fusion
[07:10] <mohd> It's ok, I just got a theme that combines aero with aqua xD
[07:11] <adrock358> yo guys i'm on liveCD and I'm trying to D/L torrent to my hd.  I did this, but i can't write to the drive still.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53940/    any body tell me what to do?
[07:11] <adrock358> anybody?
[07:12] <redbeared1> Hey I got a quick question... if anyone is on?
[07:13] <posingaspopular> !ask
[07:13] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:13] <mohd> haha, I found an exact copy of the theme I wanted on the compiz theme website!
[07:13] <redbeared1> lol ok
[07:13] <redbeared1> I was wondering if there is an MMORPG for linux users?
[07:13] <Jucato> !games
[07:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:13] <mohd> runespace
[07:14] <mohd> runescape* I think
[07:14] <mohd> http://www.runescape.com/
[07:14] <redbeared1> I heard that sux lol
[07:14] <redbeared1> meh I guess I'll check out the boards bbl all
[07:14] <mohd> friend plays it
[07:15] <mohd> thanks for your help guys
[07:15] <redbeared1> does he?
[07:15] <adrock358> Anybody?
[07:15] <mohd> school night, 2:15 AM
[07:15] <redbeared1> I miss school...
[07:15] <redbeared1> oh wow there's a lot of them ttyl
[07:17] <Jucato> !mount | adrock358
[07:17] <ubotu> adrock358: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:18] <Jucato> hm... that's not really the right one... but kinda ok...
[07:18] <adrock358> i'm actually on ubuntu
[07:19] <Jucato> adrock358: you have to mount the partition with the correct settings/permissions.. what those are depends on what type of partition it is
[07:19] <Jucato> er.. what filesystem
[07:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello.  I have installed Kubuntu 7.10 onto my laptop.  Once the laptop goes to sleep and is "woken" audio doesn't play.  How can I restart the audio w/o booting the pc?
[07:28] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[07:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> Audio is working when I start the laptop.  Once the laptop goes to sleep mode and is "awaken", that is when the sound fails.
[07:31] <redbeard1> anyone have any preferences to package managers?
[07:31] <redbeard1> or do they all do pretty much the same thing?
[07:31] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[07:31] <ol_dude67> see if that works?
[07:32] <redbeard1> is that to me or somenoe else? lol
[07:32] <sgrover> redbeard1: find the one that is fastest and stablest for you.....
[07:32] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, to someone else unless you need to restart sound
[07:32] <sgrover> Or just leave the defaults...
[07:33] <redbeard1> ahh ok ty
[07:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> ol_dude67, that command is not found.
[07:33] <sgrover> I like to use the local university for speed, but it's unstable some times, or out of date (rarely)
[07:33] <redbeard1> sgrover: well I was just wanting ppls opinions and maybe reasons why they used them
[07:34] <sgrover> redbeard1: understood.  But I think its a "what works best for YOU" type of thing.. :)
[07:34] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, did you do sudo?
[07:34] <redbeard1> yeah I understand that as well.. but I"m a n00b so pretty much everything does the trick ...
[07:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> yes, and when I do an ls of /etc/init.d/  alsasound isn't there.
[07:35] <ol_dude67> ah ok, well im not that good with that part of the settings, maybe get help with it from someone more knowing then i with kubuntu.
[07:36] <sgrover> redbeard1: we all start some place.. :)
[07:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok.
[07:36] <ol_dude67> or try google, it might have the answer for you or in the forums
[07:36] <redbeard1> sgrover: k
[07:36] <redbeard1> !MMORPG
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <redbeard1> !MMORPG games
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg games - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <redbeard1> bother
[07:37] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, as i dont have a laptop, so i would just be slowing you down.
[07:38] <sgrover> redbeard1: looking for a mmorpg?  Try The Mana World - it's in the add/remove software tool....
[07:38] <redbeard1> is it?
[07:38] <redbeard1> sgrover: yeah I am is it a good one?
[07:39] <redbeard1> sgrover: I used to play conqueronline on my old PC b4 the MOBO fried and got quite high but it was windows based and I don't think my (much older) pc can handle it
[07:42] <sgrover> redbeard1: I just found TMW last week.  It's not too bad.  Though I think I've exhausted the "quests" already....
[07:42] <sgrover> another option is maybe The Battle of Wesnoth - in multiplayer mode...  Single player mode is pretty good on it's own...
[07:43] <redbeard1> sgrover: what's TMW? and when searching for "MMORPG" I"m only get Sear and it's a 3d client for Worldforge MMORPGs. Can you add repos to Adept?
[07:44] <redbeard1> getting*
[07:44] <sgrover> http://themanaworld.org/  (tmw = the mana world)
[07:44] <redbeard1> ahh ok
[07:44] <redbeard1> duh brainfart lol
[07:45] <sgrover> redbeard1: yep, you can add repos to Adept as needed.  Or just edit the /etc/apt/source.list file if you're comfortable with that...
[07:46] <redbeard1> sgrover: can't seem to figger out where to add them to...
[07:46] <sgrover> In adept - go to Adept on the menu bar, then to Manage Repositories.  Then click the Third Party Software tab.
[07:46] <sgrover> Then click the Add button.
[07:46] <redbeard1> it only has the option to quit...
[07:47] <sgrover> Give it a moment, when you open Adept, it greys out the options while it updates the displayed lists....
[07:47] <sgrover> My box is a little fast, so I don't normally see these types of issues...
[07:48] <redbeard1> sorry d00d it's the only option up there (no greyed options)
[07:49] <sgrover> hmmm.. did you open Adept as a regular user?  Were you prompted for your password?
[07:50] <redbeard1> prompted for pass
[07:50] <sgrover> odd... There is a "fetch updates" option under that menu....
[07:51] <redbeard1> nope just a search box
[07:51] <redbeard1> Synaptic has that though
[07:51] <sgrover> so you installed Ubuntu then later added the kde desktop?
[07:51] <redbeard1> aye
[07:51] <redbeard1> don't have kubuntu natively
[07:52] <sgrover> k, in that case, you can change the repositories with synaptic - adept uses the same list.
[07:52] <redbeard1> yeah ol_dude67 I tried d/lding it and burning it but my last blank CD didn't take the burn
[07:52] <redbeard1> ahh hok
[07:52] <redbeard1> so use Synaptic than?
[07:53] <ol_dude67> um ok, and i know whats going on?
[07:53] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, next time check the download.
[07:53] <sgrover> One thing that comes to mind is that your adept might be an older version.  Doing an update/upgrade *may* fix the problem...  doubtful, but can't hurt.. :)
[07:53] <redbeard1> thought I had talked to you the other night about me using Ubuntu 6.06 and you said that Kubuntu 7.10 was out and to try it
[07:54]  * sgrover chuckles at conversations with breaks measuring days....
[07:54] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, if i had i would of told you that you could of upgraded one step at a time as well.
[07:54] <redbeard1> sgrover: yeah I keep trying to do updates but nothing can seem to find anything to update anymore lol
[07:55] <redbeard1> ahh ok ol_dude
[07:55] <sgrover> redbeard1: open a console.  Type in "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get upgrade".  See if you get any errors.  If so, those need to be resolved first.
[07:55] <redbeard1> ahh kk brb
[07:56] <sgrover> hate to steer you to the console, but I know it'll give you a clear idea of what's going on here.
[07:56] <ol_dude67> cause i dont think you can go straight from 6.06 to 7.10 you have to go from 6.06 to the next then the next if im right...maybe with ubuntu different, but thats what all the others tell me.
[07:57] <sgrover> ol_dude67: in *theory* you should be able to go from 6.06 right to 7.10... it's just a change to the sources.list file, update, upgrade, then sit back...
[07:57] <sgrover> of course, upgrades (instead of re-installs) are always a little odd....
[07:57] <redbeard1> no errors
[07:57] <ol_dude67> sgrover, i didnt think they had hal or sda back then and with it came errors.
[07:57] <redbeard1> update said everything was updated
[07:58] <redbeard1> and upgrade found nothing
[07:58] <ol_dude67> sgrover, i fought all of that in slack, so im really going by it, i just now switched to kubuntu.:(
[07:59] <sgrover> ol_dude67: yep, this is why I no longer run Gentoo - I'd rather USE my box than WORK ON it.  (i.e. low maintenance) :)
[07:59] <ol_dude67> not to mention xorg peed me off.
[07:59] <DuEzZzIeR> GG~BBL
[08:00] <sgrover> redbeard1: bear with me here.  I'm going to cover the basics and ask the blindingly obvious.. :)
[08:00] <sgrover> First, open adept.
[08:00] <redbeard1> sgrover: no worries mate I'm learning as I go (when I say n00b I mean N00B)
[08:00] <sgrover> Now, find the menu bar - it's the line of text just under the title bar of the window.
[08:01] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, your not a noob, your a newbie.
[08:01] <redbeard1> lol ok
[08:01] <sgrover> On the left side of that you should see the word "Adept".
[08:01] <sgrover> Just above the "Fetch Updates" button.
[08:01] <redbeard1> I see the top of the window that says (title of the window)
[08:01] <redbeard1> and then menu
[08:01] <sgrover> ahhh... that explains it.
[08:02] <redbeard1> including: Adept, Edit and so forth
[08:02] <sgrover> Your install is borked.. :)
[08:02] <redbeard1> w00t
[08:02] <redbeard1> yayyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:02] <sgrover> The title *should* say "Adept Manager"
[08:02] <redbeard1> nope it says Apet installer
[08:02] <redbeard1> not manager
[08:02] <sgrover> I've seen this on a few KDE installations - seems to happen if the online repositories aren't available or fail during download...
[08:03] <sgrover> hmm...
[08:03] <sgrover> That *could* be normal.  THought you were saying it said "title of the window"... :)
[08:03] <redbeard1> :D nahh
[08:03] <redbeard1> sorry
[08:03] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, did you download ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:03] <sgrover> k, scratch that theory (for now)
[08:03] <redbeard1> installed 6.06 from disk
[08:03] <redbeard1> and than d/lded kubuntu
[08:04] <ol_dude67> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:04] <redbeard1> ubuntu sorry
[08:04] <redbeard1> and then downloaded the KDE desktop
[08:04] <sgrover> ok, try this.  Close adept.  hit Alt-F2 for the run dialog.
[08:04] <ol_dude67> cant he go back to ubuntu and update then download?
[08:04] <sgrover> Type in "adept_manager" and see what happens.
[08:04] <sgrover> ol_dude67: yep.
[08:05] <sgrover> but we just did that from the command line.
[08:05] <redbeard1> alt + F2 didn't do anything
[08:05] <sgrover> redbeard1: are you on the KDE or gnome desktop right now?
[08:05] <redbeard1> KDE
[08:05] <sgrover> hmm.. alt-f2 is the RUN shortcut...
[08:05] <redbeard1> ahh hold on
[08:05] <redbeard1> heh office keyboard
[08:06] <ol_dude67> ok in kmenu do you have run command?
[08:06] <sgrover> ol_dude67: just what I was going to suggest.
[08:06] <redbeard1> ok got the run command now do what?
[08:06] <ol_dude67> ok now i will shut up and watch:D
[08:06] <sgrover> type in "adept_manager" (note the underscore)
[08:07] <redbeard1> could not run
[08:07] <redbeard1> yayy I don't have it
[08:07] <sgrover> Did it say "could not run", or "not found"
[08:07] <redbeard1> could not run
[08:07] <redbeard1> the specified command
[08:07] <sgrover> ok, just checked mine, that's normal for a missing command.
[08:07] <redbeard1> did you want me to include the quotes?
[08:08] <redbeard1> didin't work anyway lol
[08:08] <sgrover> That explains why you aren't seeing the same things I am.  I'm using adpet_manager.
[08:08] <ol_dude67> na anything in quotes means just to type that. lmao...usually
[08:09] <redbeard1> yeah I htought as much
[08:09] <sgrover> Ok, adept_installer is the "add/remove software" tool....
[08:09] <redbeard1> heh
[08:09] <redbeard1> so yep there's the problem I aint got it :D
[08:09] <redbeard1> yeppers
[08:09] <sgrover> So, in there, type "adept" into the search box.
[08:10] <sgrover> ignore that.
[08:10] <redbeard1> k
[08:10] <redbeard1> try adept_manager?
[08:10] <sgrover> the whole idea here is to add a repository.. :)  Click the "Edit Software Sources" button in the lower left.
[08:10] <sgrover> It opens the same window that we were trying to get to through adept manager... :)
[08:10] <sgrover> find it?
[08:11] <redbeard1> ummm
[08:11] <redbeard1> what window?
[08:11] <redbeard1> "edit software sources" where?
[08:11] <sgrover> In your adept installer window.  In the bottom left corner.
[08:11] <ol_dude67> sgrover, cant he do aptitude install adept?
[08:11] <redbeard1> in adept_installer?
[08:11] <redbeard1> b/c it aint there
[08:11] <sgrover> ol_dude67: yes.  But that isn't really the goal.
[08:11] <sgrover> He was asking if he could add a repository with adept...
[08:12] <sgrover> redbeard1: ok, install adept manager then.  (it's a better tool anyways.. )
[08:12] <ol_dude67> ok sorry if im bugging you, im just asking for my own personal questions.
[08:12] <sgrover> ol_dude67: no worries.  When I'm here to help, questions are fine.. :)
[08:12] <redbeard1> k would that be "sudo apt-get install adept_manager"?
[08:13] <sgrover> (actually, I'm waiting for a response to a question on the drupal chanelles).
[08:13] <ol_dude67> sgrover,  what is drupal?
[08:13] <ol_dude67> i know ot but ok.
[08:13] <sgrover> redbeard1: you could do that yes.  Or you can use the adept installer, search for adpet, then add the check mark beside adept manager...
[08:14] <sgrover> ol_dude67: it's a content management system.  I'm a web developer...
[08:14] <redbeard1> Konsole couldn't find it when I tried it
[08:14] <ol_dude67> ah ok, i was just wondering i havent heard of it till now. ...
[08:14] <sgrover> it is OT, and maybe a little indepth  for this room... :)
[08:15] <redbeard1> bah
[08:15] <sgrover> redbeard1: You were in konsole?  and typed in "sudo apt-get install adept_manager"?
[08:15] <redbeard1> only result it found was it'sef
[08:15] <sgrover> one sec, the package might have a different name.
[08:15] <redbeard1> uh huh
[08:15] <ol_dude67> sgrover, ah well my kids love the web should it be something i should learn about?
[08:16] <sgrover> I'll go check, in the mean time, try using the adept installer.
[08:16] <redbeard1> did that and failed as well
[08:16] <flipstar> what the error message ?
[08:16] <redbeard1> ol_dude67: if you want to start designing websites it would be uselul
[08:16] <redbeard1> nope jsut showed that I already had it
[08:16] <ol_dude67> ah not me the kids
[08:16] <redbeard1> and just had the name
[08:17] <ol_dude67> i could care less
[08:17] <sgrover> ok, the command line - "sudo apt-get install adept-manager" (note the dash, not the underscore)
[08:17] <redbeard1> lol
[08:17] <redbeard1> ahh I'll try the dash
[08:17] <redbeard1> brb
[08:17] <redbeard1> cound't find
[08:17] <sgrover> ol_dude67: if you want to make web pages, there are decent tools out there where you don't need to know too many of the details (html, css, etc.)
[08:18] <redbeard1> couldn't*
[08:18] <sgrover> k, you have different repositories then...
[08:18] <redbeard1> w00t I fail again
[08:18] <redbeard1> hahahaha
[08:18] <redbeard1> Journey into madness with me
[08:18] <sgrover> I think that might be typical of a Ubuntu install versus a Kubuntu install.
[08:18] <redbeard1> it's FUN
[08:18] <ol_dude67> sgrover, are you on here often?
[08:18] <flipstar> redbeard1: could you pastebin your sources.list ?
[08:18] <sgrover> ol_dude67: rarely... :)
[08:18] <flipstar> you might have to edit them
[08:18] <redbeard1> pastebin? what?
[08:18] <flipstar> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:19] <ol_dude67> sgrover, p.m.?
[08:19] <redbeard1> umm ok I"ll give that a shot
[08:19] <sgrover> flipstar: this is the whole idea... :)  He asked if he could use Adept to add a repository.
[08:19] <sgrover> ol_dude67: sure.
[08:19] <flipstar> yes he still can manually do that
[08:19] <redbeard1> actually hold on a min.
[08:19] <flipstar> sources.list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <redbeard1> if both Synaptic and Adept_manager use the same repos.. than I don't really need to add them to adept_installer do I?
[08:20] <Tm_T> no
[08:20] <redbeard1> wow
[08:20] <flipstar> i thought you dont even have adept_manager ?
[08:20] <redbeard1> I don't
[08:21] <redbeard1> but I do have Synaptic
[08:22] <redbeard1> Adept is my "add/remove" program
[08:22] <flipstar> from synaptic you also can edit the sources..dont you ?
[08:23] <sgrover> flipstar: I agree, just editing the sources.list file is easy.    Or there are ways to upgrade.
[08:26] <sgrover> I don't personally recommend an upgrade.
[08:26] <redbeard1> if I had any more blank CDs left lol
[08:26] <sgrover> They tend to be a little flakey, but the few times I've tried it things worked fine.
[08:26] <sgrover> redbeard1: do you have spare room on your drive?
[08:26] <redbeard1> yeah
[08:27] <flipstar> he could also use update-manager if it is present in dapper..
[08:27] <sgrover> You can sometimes do an install from an existing installation.  But it's not a newbie process.. :)
[08:27] <redbeard1> figgers
[08:27] <redbeard1> lol
[08:27] <sheggah7> hello all..
[08:28] <flipstar> !hi
[08:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:28] <redbeard1> yeah I had d/lded it b4 and tried burning it but it didn't work and I had to re-re-reformat and get it back up
[08:28] <sheggah7> i'm trying to install greenos-desktop using Adept Manager.. but I get an error: "BREAK"
[08:28] <redbeard1> hi sheggah
[08:28] <sheggah7> does this mean that greenos-desktop is going to one of the packages?
[08:29] <sgrover> redbeard1:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[08:29] <sheggah7> i thought gOS is built on Ubuntu... so everything should work fine.
[08:29] <flipstar> sgrover: he has dapper..
[08:29] <redbeard1> I love howtogeek he's cool
[08:29] <sgrover> redbeard1: I find that the Kubuntu Alternate install disk is more stable...
[08:30] <sgrover> flipstar: oops.. I did a search for dapper to gutsy.. missed the title on that page.
[08:30] <flipstar> sheggah7: i dont have an greenos-desktop packet in my kubuntu..
[08:30] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:31] <sheggah7> flipstar: yes.. but I would like to have it... how do I solve the "break" problem?
[08:31] <sgrover> Hmm.. in *theory* he should be able to just replace "dapper" with "gutsy" in his sources.list, update and upgrade.  But I'm almost certain that would fail badly...
[08:31] <redbeard1> it seems to be working though...
[08:32] <Dresken> Does anyone have any idea how to make the title bars for windows appear when using Beryl?
[08:32] <flipstar> redbeard1: you using the update-manager now..?
[08:32] <redbeard1> it's running after running the command in the hotogeek article
[08:32] <redbeard1> (loading anyway)
[08:33] <flipstar> yep could take some time..
[08:33] <redbeard1> that and my PC is OLD
[08:33] <redbeard1> 600 Mhz and a bit of RAM
[08:33] <flipstar> it also depends on your network connection..
[08:33] <redbeard1> network is 100 Kbps
[08:33] <redbeard1> I got cable
[08:33] <sgrover> redbeard1: I wouldn't recommend following that guide.  You *should* upgrade to Edgy, then upgrade to Fiesty, then upgrade to Gutsy....
[08:33] <flipstar> nice me too :)
[08:34] <redbeard1> :D
[08:34] <sgrover> But that would likely break things in the process...
[08:34] <redbeard1> darned if I do darned if I don't?
[08:34] <redbeard1> lol
[08:34] <flipstar> what stands there? which version is availible ?
[08:35] <redbeard1> says my system is up to date...
[08:35] <flipstar> ouch
[08:35] <redbeard1> uh huh
[08:36] <redbeard1> brb
[08:36] <flipstar> redbeard1: did you pressed the check updates button ?
[08:38] <lrobison> Dresken:  what if you start beryl with --replace ?
[08:40] <Dresken> Irobison: How exactly do I do that?
[08:45] <sheggah7> how do I force apt-get to install all dependencies?
[08:46] <sheggah7> i get the error "<package-name> but it is not going to be installed" when trying to install enlightment*
[08:50] <sub[t]rnl> sheggah7➜ sudo apt-get -f install (will fix broken)
[08:56] <sheggah7> still giving me the "but it is not going to be installed" error
[08:56] <redbeard1> ok IN
[08:56] <redbeard1> IB*
[08:57] <redbeard1> flipstar: there is no check updates button
[08:57] <redbeard1> only a check button and yes I did
[08:59] <flipstar> hm you could try gksu "update-manager -c -d according to http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrading-ubuntu-from-dapper-to-edgy-with-update-manager/
[08:59] <redbeard1> k trying that
[09:01] <sheggah7> any ideas how to solve this? http://rafb.net/p/Xxxnwc28.html
[09:01] <redbeard1> w00t that seems to be giving me sumpin new
[09:01] <redbeard1> new distribution releassse '8.04' is available
[09:02] <flipstar> oh no thats hardy..
[09:02] <redbeard1> oops
[09:02] <flipstar> hm there is also a sencond method..mentioned here http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html
[09:02] <redbeard1> doens't seem to be a way to stop it...
[09:02] <redbeard1> doesn't*
[09:03] <redbeard1> it's upgrading
[09:03] <redbeard1> lol
[09:03] <flipstar> what ?
[09:03] <redbeard1> I clicked on update and it's installing and updating it
[09:03] <flipstar> omg
[09:04] <flipstar> just cances it..it is still downloading..
[09:04] <flipstar> *cancel
[09:04] <redbeard1> k canceled lol
[09:05] <redbeard1> sorry it's 4:05 here and I"m tired but forcing myself to stay awake
[09:05] <flipstar> ohoh
[09:06] <redbeard1> so I"m trying to upgrade from dapper to fiesty?
[09:06] <flipstar> better upgrade to edgy first
[09:07] <redbeard1> k
[09:08] <redbeard1> running gksu “update-manager -c ”
[09:09] <redbeard1> seeing if that does anything
[09:10] <redbeard1> nope the icon hops for a bit and than goes away...
[09:12] <flipstar> did you typed it with the quotation?
[09:12] <redbeard1> aye
[09:12] <redbeard1> but I"m gonna try
[09:12] <redbeard1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052
[09:12] <redbeard1> what this site says
[09:12] <redbeard1> it's the "official" way to do it
[09:13] <flipstar> yes..it is also describet here http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html#Method%202 under method 2 :)
[09:13] <redbeard1> and it seems to be working VERY well lol
[09:14] <redbeard1> oh bother...
[09:15] <redbeard1> gksudo "update-manager -c -d" had me do that again (not stable yet)
[09:16] <flipstar> yes..the -d stands for devel release
[09:17] <redbeard1> ahhh ok
[09:18] <redbeard1> yeah that'd be VERY bad for me lol
[09:18] <redbeard1> ok method b seems to be working
[09:18] <redbeard1> 'course I said that b4...
[09:19] <flipstar> guess the update will take a loooong time..
[09:20] <redbeard1> so far there's 2 conflicts should I be worried?
[09:20] <flipstar> what kind of conflicts ?
[09:20] <redbeard1> resolving dependencies
[09:21] <redbeard1> now 5
[09:21] <flipstar> hm
[09:22] <redbeard1> that's what I said.... only a bit more colorfully
[09:24] <redbeard1> I really don't wanna hafta reformat again....
[09:25] <flipstar> that would be more than worst case
[09:25] <redbeard1> lol
[09:25] <redbeard1> it says no solution found in allotted time
[09:25] <redbeard1> try harder?
[09:25] <redbeard1> and I said yes
[09:26] <redbeard1> does "uncommenting a source" do anything?
[09:27] <flipstar> yes of course..it makes the installer not read the uncommented source
[09:27] <redbeard1> ....
[09:27] <redbeard1> k
[09:27] <redbeard1> what does that mean?
[09:27] <redbeard1> and how do I go about uncommenting a source?
[09:28] <flipstar> if you uncomment e.g. the cd source it wont install from cd..
[09:28] <flipstar> you have to edit sources.list
[09:28] <flipstar> which source you would like to uncomment ?
[09:28] <redbeard1> uhhh
[09:29] <redbeard1> effed if I know?
[09:29] <xxBasYxx> I have 2 panels -> top and bottom, and i want autohide only for top panel is it possible?
[09:29] <redbeard1> it says on the site:You might also want to uncomment all sources ( for in case you'll need universe later )
[09:30] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: i guess not but did you try to change it for each ?
[09:31] <flipstar> redbeard1: hm i dont think this is necessary
[09:32] <redbeard1> k
[09:32] <fulat2k> hi folks, anyone here using iwl3945 module?
[09:32] <xxBasYxx> problem is that when i open properties of second (top) panel, it opens properies only for bottom one
[09:32] <fulat2k> having problems re-establishing wifi connection after system standby
[09:32] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: yes i think it uses the same config file..
[09:33] <xxBasYxx> :(
[09:33] <xxBasYxx> flipstar: where is that  config file?
[09:33] <redbeard1> fulat2k: I've seen that issue on some wireless cards do you have it set for power save?
[09:34] <redbeard1> (of course hen I encountered it it was a driver issue in a windows environment)
[09:34] <redbeard1> it might be the same but I'm a newbie at linux altogether
[09:36] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/68926
[09:36] <fulat2k> redbeard1: that's something i haven't checked :)  thanks for the tip
[09:37] <redbeard1> np d00d, I"m not sure as far as data structure goes, but I think that OS is below drivers
[09:37] <redbeard1> so that's where I would start
[09:37] <redbeard1> on the OSI model that is
[09:42] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: did this helps ?
[09:44] <homoludens> hi everyone: i'm trying to fix a problem with standby/hibernation on my panasonic laptop. i posted already on the kubuntu forum, but didn't get a response; couldn't really find anything applicable online either. could someone at least give me a clue on how to proceed?
[09:44] <homoludens> what kind of processes are responsible for standby/hibernation?
[09:45] <redbeard1> system settings: display: power mode
[09:46] <redbeard1> err power saving
[09:47] <homoludens> redbeard1: that dialogue has only one setting on my system, i.e. after how many minutes to switch of the monitor ...
[09:48] <redbeard1> hmmm
[09:49] <redbeard1> not entirely sure sorry
[09:49] <redbeard1> I"m a newbie with linux myself
[09:49] <redbeard1> and I"m on a desktop
[09:50] <redbeard1> I do remember removing some sort of battery icon (power program) that I wouldn't use
[09:50] <redbeard1> woudl that be it?
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> yeah, there's a menu attached to the battery icon when you right-click
[09:51] <SlimeyPete> not sure exactly what process it activates though
[09:51] <flipstar> Sometimes hibernation in Ubuntu doesn't work with certain hardware ..
[09:51] <redbeard1> was it alt+esc to bring up the process manager window?
[09:51] <flipstar> right redbeard1
[09:52] <redbeard1> k so bring that up and than click on the battery icon and find out what process appears?
[09:52] <redbeard1> would that work?
[09:53] <redbeard1> btw I"m finally downloading the edgy updates now
[09:53] <redbeard1> adept had a caution symbol I hadn't noticed
[09:53] <redbeard1> 256 packages I think it is lol
[09:54] <flipstar> just ignore that icon in the kicker
[09:54] <homoludens> guys, do your power savings menus have more options? just curious whether my laptop is incomptible with a certain component.
[09:54] <homoludens> ... i suppose no one is using a panasonic toughbook here?!  :-/
[09:54] <redbeard1> not on a laptop sorry bro
[09:54] <redbeard1> nope OLD desktop
[09:54] <redbeard1> 600 Mhz
[09:55] <redbeard1> CPU
[09:55] <homoludens> that's not so bad ... ! compared to the c64 i used to owe ... :D
[09:55] <homoludens> good games though ;)
[09:55] <redbeard1> :D
[09:55] <redbeard1> yeah my old neighbor had one
[09:56] <redbeard1> we didn't get a PC until win 3.x came out I think it was
[09:56] <homoludens> i'm a little puzzled because i tried ubuntu, too, and hibernation worked fine there. so, is this a kde problem?
[09:56] <redbeard1> could be...
[09:57] <redbeard1> not sure though
[09:57] <homoludens> hm, ok ...
[09:58] <redbeard1> flipstar. it says 215 packages available lol
[09:58] <flipstar> thats great :)
[09:58] <redbeard1> 52% done w00t
[09:59] <lod_> hi, on my laptop sound is played both from speakers and headphones
[09:59] <redbeard1> loose adapter cord?
[09:59] <lod_> how to fix this?
[10:00] <redbeard1> new hadphones maybe?
[10:00] <lod_> why new?
[10:00] <redbeard1> have you tried making sure the headphones are plugged all the way in? (no offense meant)
[10:00] <lod_> yes, they are pluged in to the end
[10:01] <redbeard1> then perhaps the soft switch inside isn't tripping to shut off the ext. speakers
[10:01] <flipstar> lod you can configure audio settings via kmix
[10:01] <redbeard1> or that
[10:01] <lod_> i've tried
[10:01] <flipstar> just disable speaker and enable headphones or the other hand
[10:02] <flipstar> and it didnt work ?
[10:02] <lod_> no speaker tab
[10:02] <redbeard1> no speaker tab?
[10:02] <redbeard1> wow
[10:02] <lod_> no, every different way, or no sound or playing from the both
[10:03] <lod_> just front, headphones, PCM and others for the mic..
[10:03] <redbeard1> sounds like it doesn't even recognise the speakers at all
[10:03] <redbeard1> and thinks the speakers are headphones so it pushes sound out both
[10:04] <redbeard1> driver issue?
[10:04] <redbeard1> what kind of laptop is it?
[10:04] <lod_> i dnon't know
[10:04] <lod_> MSI Megabook ER710X
[10:04] <redbeard1> it doesn't say?
[10:04] <redbeard1> ahh ok
[10:07] <redbeard1> none of the sites I find with google are showing any sites in english or showing audio specs..
[10:07] <redbeard1> !sound
[10:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:08] <redbeard1> those might help
[10:08] <redbeard1> more so than I would
[10:08] <redbeard1> be able to
[10:14] <Dalai> hello everybody
[10:14] <redbeard1> !hi
[10:14] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:15] <powerpleb> hello, this place seems quiet right now
[10:15] <redbeard1> how's it goin dalai?
[10:15] <redbeard1> yep it is
[10:16] <Dalai> i was just wondering can you make kubuntu visually as good looking as ubuntu... I just remember seeing some computer running ubuntu and it was stuffed with eyecandy
[10:16] <redbeard1> *cricket cricket*
[10:16] <Dalai> im fine, you?
[10:16] <redbeard1> yeah you can get the GDM desktop on Kubuntu if you like
[10:16] <Dalai> is it so quiet in here red? :)
[10:16] <redbeard1> and not bad at all
[10:16] <redbeard1> it was till you guys showed up lol
[10:17] <JohnFlux> Dalai: kde4 has the cube etc effects
[10:17] <powerpleb> what's the GDM desktop? does it run with KDE?
[10:17] <Dalai> haha first comer says few words and then its all *cricket cricket* :P
[10:17] <redbeard1> lol
[10:17] <Dalai> hmm where can i get these
[10:17] <Dalai> still newbie to the whole linux system
[10:17] <redbeard1> I am too
[10:18] <redbeard1> GDM is Gnome and it comes with Ubuntu
[10:18] <Dalai> cool *high five*
[10:18] <redbeard1> ^5
[10:18] <powerpleb> oic
[10:18] <redbeard1> it's brown
[10:18] <homoludens> Dalai: did you google for kubuntu & eyecandy?
[10:18] <redbeard1> (by default)
[10:18] <powerpleb> brown can be OK
[10:18] <Dalai> i dont want... brown? :)
[10:19] <redbeard1> I"m not a big fan of brown myself
[10:19] <powerpleb> think rustic
[10:19] <Jucato> which kind of eyecandy are you looking for exactly?
[10:19] <homoludens> Dalai: perhaps checking the ubuntu forum / wiki might be useful too; at least you can find out what programs you should install.
[10:19] <Dalai> nope homoludens, should have started with that
[10:19] <Dalai> yeh ill do that
[10:19] <homoludens> i support kde blue too! :D
[10:19] <redbeard1> lol
[10:19] <redbeard1> !eyecandy
[10:19] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:19] <Dalai> otherwise ill be just spamming nonsense questions in here
[10:19] <redbeard1> or use the bot :D
[10:20] <redbeard1> he's a freindly fellow
[10:20] <homoludens> i'm pretty much a newbie too, but kde offers so much customization ops.
[10:20] <homoludens> ubuntu looks very nice & clean, though.
[10:20] <Dalai> sweet nice links
[10:20] <Jucato> !changetheme
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Jucato> !changethemes
[10:20] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[10:20] <redbeard1> yeah if you have a question about a certain topic
[10:20] <redbeard1> hit ! and than subject
[10:20] <flipstar> hm i dont like that little ubuntu style
[10:20] <redbeard1> !eycandy
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eycandy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <redbeard1> but make sure you spell it right
[10:21] <redbeard1> I think I need to restart bbl ppl hasta
[10:21] <flipstar> cya and gl :)
[10:33] <redbeard1> ok now this don't make sense...
[10:33] <redbeard1> when I try to do the update manager it says that there's another program running stopping me from running it
[10:33] <redbeard1> and I'm looking at my processes and don't see any...
[10:33] <powerpleb> i get that, is adept running?
[10:34] <redbeard1> nope
[10:35] <redbeard1> and I just shut down kicker too by accident lol
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | redbeard1
[10:36] <ubotu> redbeard1: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> redbeard1: try that
[10:37] <redbeard1> would try to if kicker were up... how do I get that back up?
[10:37] <redbeard1> !kicker
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <flipstar> just run it from alt+f2
[10:37] <redbeard1> oh ok lol
[10:37] <redbeard1> duh
[10:38] <redbeard1> ty
[10:38] <flipstar> did you do this aptitude thing ?
[10:38] <redbeard1> trying now
[10:39] <redbeard1> running depmod...
[10:39] <redbeard1> doesn't seem to be doing anything else...
[10:41] <redbeard1> does it usually take awhile b4 it does anything?
[10:42] <flipstar> just wait anothe couple of secs..
[10:42] <greatauk> Hello everyone ... was wondering if anyone could help: After updating to Gutsy my gtk apps (like firefox) start looking old-school
[10:43] <flipstar> did you update to gutsy or to hardy ?
[10:43] <greatauk> gutsy
[10:43] <flipstar> hm
[10:43] <greatauk> I've got the qt-gtk stuff ... everything looked fine before ...
[10:43] <redbeard1> ah HA Adpet Manager finally came up
[10:44] <redbeard1> w00t
[10:44] <greatauk> changing "GTK Styles and Fonts" to "Use my KDE style in GTK apps" is turned on ...
[10:44] <SlimeyPete> greatauk: check that libgtk2.0-0 is installed
[10:45] <SlimeyPete> (just a thought)
[10:45] <greatauk> SlimeyPete, thanks, but it is installed
[10:46] <greatauk> although without dev and doc
[10:46] <SlimeyPete> shouldn't need those
[10:46] <flipstar> hm i had the same prob on hardy..
[10:46] <flipstar> fixed it with ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[10:46] <greatauk> flipstar, did you solve it?
[10:46] <trixon> Is it possible to get a Konsole i the lower part of konqueror, or is that opensuse specific?
[10:46] <Jucato> heh flipstar beat me to it...
[10:46] <Jucato> trixon: press F8
[10:48] <greatauk> gtkrc-2.0-kde already exists though ... I'll rename it and try it out
[10:48] <flipstar> if it exist it doesnt make sense..
[10:48] <trixon> Jucato thank you, I did not see any menu item for it
[10:49] <Jucato> trixon: it's in vanilla (pure) Konqueror, but Kubuntu removed it... long story
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> heh, I didn't know it did that.
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> Maybe I'll actually start using konqueror now
[10:50] <flipstar> greatauk: you get this wired look only on firefox ?
[10:50] <greatauk> hmm
[10:52] <flipstar> maybe you should just install firefox-themes-ubuntu ..
[10:52] <flipstar> you can set it in firefox under extras-->addons-->themes
[10:52] <greatauk> openoffice looks ok, that uses gtk, right? so maybe it's firefox specific
[10:53] <greatauk> flipstar, I'll try that
[10:53] <flipstar> there is a diffrence between gtk and gtk2 apps..
[10:53] <greatauk> I thought almost every app was using gtk2 these days? like firefox and openoffice? (I ment to say gtk2 when I said gtk earlier)
[10:54] <flipstar> there still gtk apps..dont know how its about openoffice
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> openoffice is gtk2
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> most gtk apps are gtk2.
[10:56] <frojnd> hello there
[10:56] <frojnd> I have som problems with sound
[10:57] <frojnd> I can't listen to mp3s... I think it's because of skype I used it yesterday. Restarting X ofcorse doesn't help. Any suggestions how can I get back my sound ?
[10:58] <greatauk> flipstar, changing themes doesn't work ... strange
[10:58] <flipstar> did you restart firefox ?
[10:58] <redbeard1> what would clicking on full upgrade do in Adept Manager?
[10:58] <flipstar> !mp3 | frojnd
[10:58] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:58] <flipstar> update all availible packets
[10:59] <redbeard1> k I'll try that
[10:59] <greatauk> flipstar, yeah, I did, the buttons changed so I saw that the new theme was applied, but the ugly look prevailed
[11:00] <flipstar> was it ever like this greatauk ?
[11:00] <redbeard1> !ubuntu version
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu version - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <redbeard1> !version
[11:01] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[11:01] <greatauk> I'm looking at gimp now, and it is ugly as well
[11:01] <greatauk> so it's something to do with gtk2
[11:01] <redbeard1> weird it says I'm still running 6.06 dapper
[11:02] <redbeard1> I thought I was at Edgy now...
[11:02] <flipstar> oO
[11:02] <flipstar> you did followed the guide exactly ?
[11:02] <redbeard1> tried to
[11:05] <redbeard1> when trying to run software updates it says: Cannot install all available updates. Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely.
[11:05] <redbeard1> running sudo command....
[11:06] <flipstar> didnt you already did this with aptitude
[11:06] <redbeard1> aptitude?
[11:06] <sveri> hi, i even tried installing kde 4 under kubuntu 7.10 which worked fine, but now, when i want to login to kde4 i get a black screen and return to kdm, does somebody know where i can look for errors?
[11:06] <flipstar> right
[11:06] <redbeard1> is that the same as apt-get?
[11:06] <flipstar> like it was mentioned in the ubuntu-forum post.....
[11:07] <redbeard1> tried to but it didn't work
[11:07] <progreSSive> hi everybody
[11:07] <flipstar> sveri: do you have compiz enabled when login ?
[11:07] <progreSSive> does anybody know a "perl" room??
[11:07] <n1tro> damn, just installed kubuntu, i'm so messed up :D
[11:07] <SlimeyPete> sveri: best to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:07] <SlimeyPete> progreSSive: ##perl?
[11:07] <flipstar> #Perl
[11:08] <sveri> flipstar: i dont even have compiz installed
[11:08] <SlimeyPete> progreSSive: sorry #perl
[11:08] <flipstar> what happend n1tro ?
[11:08] <sveri> SlimeyPete: thx for the hint, i'll try there too
[11:08] <progreSSive> SlimeyPete, thanks :)
[11:08] <n1tro> flipstar:  oh nothing special, just so much to do that don't know where to start ^^
[11:08] <flipstar> sveri: hm try to login in tt1 and just run X .. to see if it is an graphical error..
[11:09] <flipstar> n1tro: lol
[11:09] <flipstar> you changed from windows or another linux distri ?
[11:09] <n1tro> windows :)
[11:09] <sveri> flipstar: ok, i'll be right back, i hope :-)
[11:09] <redbeard1> I do'nt get it...
[11:09] <redbeard1> don't*
[11:10] <flipstar> redbeard1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052 last point
[11:10] <redbeard1> I opened synaptic and marked all upgrades and nothing is marked....
[11:10] <SlimeyPete> did you do an update first, redbeard1 ?
[11:10] <SlimeyPete> you have to update your package lists.
[11:11] <flipstar> did X start ?
[11:11] <sveri> flipstar: login to tty works fine
[11:11] <flipstar> great
[11:11] <redbeard1> oh ok
[11:11] <redbeard1> hold on
[11:11] <flipstar> did X start ?
[11:11] <cpk1> is there a way to figure out which client on my dhcp server is using the most bandwidth?
[11:12] <n1tro> btw, i tought i'm gonna download beryl, i'm not gonna ask any help. just asking if i should even try?
[11:12] <flipstar> !beryl | n1tro
[11:12] <ubotu> n1tro: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:12] <n1tro> :O
[11:12] <n1tro> !compiz
[11:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:13] <redbeard1> yeah reloaded and tried marking again still didn't work
[11:14] <flipstar> hm try sudo apt-get check
[11:15] <redbeard1> trying sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:15] <redbeard1> and getting 5 conflicts thus far
[11:15] <flipstar> i think these are packages that aint supportet anymore..
[11:16] <redbeard1> gr8
[11:16] <redbeard1> so how do I get rid of them?
[11:16] <redbeard1> lol
[11:16] <flipstar> what said sudo apt-get check ?
[11:16] <redbeard1> havn'et run it yet
[11:16] <redbeard1> haven't*
[11:16] <redbeard1> waiting for other command to terminate
[11:20] <redbeard1> reading package list and building dependency tree is done
[11:21] <redbeard1> that's all that did
[11:21] <flipstar> so no errors ?
[11:21] <redbeard1> nope but I just found out where I missed 2 dappers
[11:21] <redbeard1> correcting
[11:23] <greatauk> you guys know what happens if I remove .gtkrc2.0?
[11:23] <redbeard1> w00t that's what it was I missed 4 dappers
[11:24] <Lynoure> greatauk: probably defaults to something :)
[11:24] <Lynoure> greatauk: when unsure, just move it first
[11:24] <greatauk> Lynoure, erm yeah ... good idea
[11:25] <redbeard1> SWEET it worked
[11:25] <redbeard1> you roxor flipstar
[11:27] <redbeard1> wow this is going to take awhile....
[11:28] <lupul> can anyone tell how do i set the clock no not change itself?
[11:28] <lupul> *to not
[11:28] <redbeard1> what do you mean lupul?
[11:29] <redbeard1> !clock
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <lupul> i set it to 13:28. i reboot and then it's 15:28
[11:29] <lupul> everytime
[11:29] <redbeard1> your CMOS battery might need replaced
[11:29] <redbeard1> sounds like your internal clock is messing up
[11:29] <lupul> no
[11:30] <flipstar> lupul: do you have windows on another partition ?
[11:30] <lupul> on windows it's ok.  bios it's ok. only linux changes it