[12:00] <nemopaice> Can anyone tell me how to install a downloaded program?
[12:01] <frankiii> anyone notice on breezy how, occasionally, the Applications or System menus are opened up with scroll arrows?
[12:01] <samu2> nemopaice, dpkg -i programname.deb might do it.
[12:01] <frankiii> if I close the menu then reopen it then the menu is opened up properly
[12:01] <frank23> nemopaice: what did you download
[12:01] <nemopaice> where do I typeit? This is my first time on linux
[12:02] <nemopaice> netscape.
[12:02] <frankiii> also, on breezy (which I installed by upgrading hoary) System->About Ubuntu pops up an error
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  no its not.
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> you have to be root to enable the shareing.
[12:02] <frank23> nemopaice: just use firefox
[12:02] <mirak> Dr_Willis: no you need to be root to share a folder
[12:02] <nemopaice> but I use the netscape email server .... does firefox allow me to use my netscape email?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  not from what i am seeing on my 2 ubuntu box's
[12:03] <mirak> Dr_Willis: ok my bad
[12:03] <frank23> nemopaice: I don't know... what is the name of the file you downloaded
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  the root user has to enable the shareing of the users home folders, of course samba is a system-service - so thus root needs to be in controll of it.
[12:03] <mirak> Dr_Willis: I was surprised that I needed to enable it in nautilus since it was running already
[12:03] <nemopaice> netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  that 'tool' edited the samba config file.   and restarted the samba services i think.
[12:04] <tucoz> Hi, I wonder if there is a net installer for ubuntu or if it is possible to install from another partition. My cd-reader is not working as it should
[12:04] <mirak> Dr_Willis: do you have security on share or on user ?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> I just have it on user i think.. since i only have 1 user :P
[12:04] <frank23> nemopaice: open a console, go where you dled netscape, type   tar xzvf netscape......gz
[12:05] <mirak> Dr_Willis: if I put it on user, it asks me a password even just to browse the workgroup
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  you never added a smbpassword for your user yet have ya :P
[12:05] <SublimeInfidel> Alright, I need some help manually adding a host to /etc/hosts. I have an fsck error
[12:05] <SublimeInfidel> Can anybody help?
[12:06] <mirak> I think I did but I want to be able to share my home with a password and share normal folder readwrite
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> what i had to do.. as root. for the users i wanted to share their home folders. I had to use 'smbpass -a username' to set a smbpassword for them. THEN restart the samba service
[12:06] <fr500> mirak, there is a public flag i think
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> also the home filders are normally read only.  I had to edit the smb.conf to change that
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> the gnome-samba config tool - is a little under-powered.
[12:06] <mirak> it sucks
[12:07] <nemopaice> you mean open up a console as in terminal?
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  all these chages take me.. say.. 30 sec.. to edit :P with vi.
[12:07] <frank23> nemopaice: yeah
[12:07] <mirak> Dr_Willis: yes but that's not what we exept for a desktop distro
[12:08] <nemopaice> says no such directory
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  'desktop disrto' is such a null-meaning-buzz-word..
[12:09] <nemopaice> the gz file is on my desktop
[12:09] <frank23> nemopaice: in the terminal   ls  lists files, cd changes directory, make sure you are at the right place
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  i dont even know if that sambva config tool is normal part of gnome - or a ubuntu specific add on.
[12:09] <mirak> Dr_Willis: the model ubuntu tries to reach is OS X, that's not a secret
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> samba can be considered a security issue.. so the ubuntu guys err on 'secured' :P
[12:10] <[N] ame> its a long way from Os X
[12:10] <nemopaice> in the terminal window it says.... myname:~$
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> I put ubuntu on my imac.
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> *&@&@ os-x
[12:11] <lui> where I can find w32codecs?
[12:11] <lui> where can I find w32codecs?
[12:11] <[N] ame> lui, for hoary or breezy
[12:11] <[N] ame> ?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/  is where i got mine
[12:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lui about w32codecs
[12:12] <init2null> hi all. since breezy rc1 is out, can I safely do a dist-upgrade, or will my ubuntu install die a horrible death?
[12:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell [N] ame about w32codecs
[12:12] <_rb_> one thing then, is there any problem with windows having access to the same file as a nother machine running windows when the file is on a linux server. are there any linux file locks i should know about ?
[12:12] <lui> hoary
[12:12] <[N] ame> stop telling me.. I know where they are
[12:12] <nalioth> init2null: you'll be fine
[12:12] <frank23> nemopaice: I opened a chat with you.
[12:12] <init2null> ok, I guess I'll do it. thanks!
[12:12] <lui> thanks guys
[12:12] <_jason> is there anything I can do to fix the lag between sound and video (flash also has sound lag)?
[12:13] <nemopaice> where at
[12:13] <_rb_> _jason, use alsa
[12:13] <durt> what would be the proper line in /etc/mtab for a usb camera (/dev/sda)?
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> sure its not /dev/sda1 ?
[12:13] <[N] ame> what I need to know is how to get totem-xine to play audio with avi's. I get great picture but no sound
[12:13] <frank23> nemopaice: somewhere in your chat client, besides the channel maybe
[12:13] <_jason> _rb_:  also does not lag?  does it allow multiple sounds?
[12:13] <_rb_> duno
[12:13] <_jason> _rb_:  also = alsa
[12:13] <jaydg> _rb_, sounds like you have to dig deeps into the docs
[12:14] <CountDown> I'm designing a USB device (hardware and firmware) I'd like to use with Ubuntu.  Assuming the USB device firmware is working correctly, what do I need to do within Ubuntu to make it appear as a serial port in /dev/?
[12:14] <_rb_> b een doin it. lots n lots.
[12:14] <_rb_> having trouble with what could be an xp issue with some sorta cache
[12:14] <jaydg> _rb_, dealing with windows hurts :) are all of your windows boxes xp?
[12:15] <[N] ame> _rb_, whats your windows problem
[12:15] <_rb_> yeahp
[12:15] <nemopaice> i am there
[12:15] <jaydg> _rb_, home or pro?
[12:15] <_rb_> [N] ame, xcept for the fact that nwindows sucks, its a access denied prob
[12:15] <_rb_> pro
[12:16] <[N] ame> take ownership of what ever it is
[12:16] <_rb_> its all comiung from a prog called myob
[12:16] <jaydg> _rb_, samba is pdc? or just a workgroup? wins?
[12:16] <_rb_> it tries to open a client dbf when it starts, and after one machine starts the software the others get an Access denied error and wont start
[12:17] <_rb_> its just a workgroup
[12:17] <frank23> nemopaice: ok maybe it doesnt work
[12:17] <telonir> it failed
[12:17] <telonir> it wanted the udev
[12:17] <jaydg> _rb_, well anyway - can you control the type of locking the program does?
[12:18] <nemopaice> lol I see you and typed to you
[12:18] <telonir> cant run kernel 2.4 with ubuntu 5.10
[12:19] <[N] ame> _rb_, myob... accounting software?
[12:19] <_rb_> not as far as i can see, but then i havent changed anyrthing as far as the clients are concerned, they were working fine when the server ( pretty much just a file holding box ) was a win98 machine.
[12:19] <frank23> nemopaice: type /join #frank123
[12:20] <_rb_> paths are identical, machine names are identical, but now the clients wont all open up happily. no other machines can get in after one has started the proigram. even if they exit it
[12:20] <_rb_> yeah
[12:20] <nemopaice> im there
[12:21] <_rb_> its accounting software
[12:21] <[N] ame> does the new server have the same name as the old one
[12:21] <[N] ame> and the same IP
[12:21] <[N] ame> ??
[12:21] <_rb_> yes. same ip, same shared folders
[12:21] <[N] ame> is the server name the same?
[12:21] <_rb_> yeah
[12:21] <durt> what filesystem type is a usb drive?
[12:22] <[N] ame> have you set the permissions
[12:22] <[N] ame> for the shares
[12:22] <_rb_> the network shares as seen in "My computer" are all fine with the new server, no changes necessary there
[12:22] <jaydg> have you tried "blocking locks = no" ?
[12:22] <_rb_> yeah, the other computers have opened the files fine, just not when other computers have opened them. the linux permissions are wide open
[12:23] <dradul> durt, a flash drive has, usually, FAT filesystem.
[12:23] <delltony> anyone here use kubuntu reason i ask after doing an apt-get upgrade i get this big annoying Volume dialog in the center of the screen that simply will not go away i have tried to do an xkill on the box i have tried pgrep kmix then kill -9 <id> nothing seems to work. help please
[12:24] <_rb_> no, havent tried that. I'm gunna have to go to the site and start trying that
[12:24] <jc-denton> hi all
[12:24] <Yetr2> ubuntu doesn't carry wine?
[12:24] <_rb_> I'll connect to irc from there and i'll have access to the logs and things for more detailed answers on what samba does
[12:24] <jc-denton> is there an easy way to customize uspash on breezy
[12:24] <jc-denton> w/o building ur own kernel
[12:25] <[N] ame> Yetr2, ubuntu does wine you just have to install it
[12:25] <jaydg> _rb_, yes, logs are GOLD when trying to solve ugly problems
[12:25] <Yetr2> [N] ame, couldn't find the package with apt, this is why I'm asking
[12:25] <[N] ame> did you check synaptic
[12:25] <dabaR> its in universe.
[12:25] <_rb_> if i could solve windows i'd get the nobel prize
[12:26] <[N] ame> Yetr2,  hoary or breezy
[12:26] <[N] ame> ?
[12:26] <Yetr2> breezy
[12:26] <_rb_> cyas soon
[12:27] <[N] ame> Yetr2, I see it synaptic
[12:27] <cevizoglu> Yetr2, do you have universe in your repositories?
[12:27] <dabaR> [N] ame: it is in universe. you have, and he does not have universe enabled.
[12:27] <[N] ame> im running default
[12:27] <dabaR> It is a repository. I told ubotu to tell both of you about repos, and about asking him about packages.
[12:28] <[N] ame> well almost default
[12:28] <dabaR> [N] ame: well, in fact, if you see wine, you have universe enabled.
[12:28] <[N] ame> hence the almost dabar
[12:28] <Yetr2> running completely default here.
[12:28] <cevizoglu> dangit, why won't the missing package tsclient leave me alone?
[12:28] <[N] ame> Yetr2, edit your sources.list file
[12:29] <Yetr2> I figured that
[12:29] <[N] ame> uncomment the other repositories
[12:29] <BioVorE> tsclient.  TeamSpeak?
[12:29] <[N] ame> then in term do a sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <cius> would anyone be able to tell me how to change gnoem's WM?  I read online that I have to change a setting in my .gnomerc file, but that doesn't appear to be in my home directory on ubuntu...
[12:29] <cevizoglu> ah, turned off "show notifications" for software updates.  much better
[12:30] <[N] ame> cius, have you unhid all the files in home?
[12:31] <dabaR> Yetr2: TO add universe, follow the link ubotu sent you about repositories.
[12:31] <cius> [N] ame, I used ls -a to see them all, then looked for .gnome rc, and I also tried using locate .gnome and looked through all the hits, but found no .gnomerc
[12:31] <dabaR> cius: are you in gnome now?
[12:31] <cius> dabar, yes
[12:31] <[N] ame> did you just try ls | grep gnomerc
[12:32] <dabaR> cius: you hear of the configuration manager?
[12:32] <cius> no, I've yet to use the config manager
[12:32] <cius> and I have not tried using grep
[12:32] <[N] ame> ls -a | grep .gnomerc
[12:32] <[N] ame> I think
[12:33] <cius> [N] ame , returned nothing
[12:33] <Stickybit> Can anyone offer help on wireless config for dlink-520?
[12:33] <cius> dabar, I'll try tthe config manager real quick, thanks for mentioning it
[12:33] <dabaR> configuration editor that is. Applications, System Tools, Conf Editor, then in there you can change it.
[12:34] <dmacdonald111> Hi all
[12:34] <dabaR> um, where did you haer about changing the wm, and what woudl you like to change it to?
[12:34] <[N] ame> I wish I could get sound working under totem-xine
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> ive never had much luck changeing the window manager for gnome.
[12:34] <[N] ame> system sounds work fine
[12:34] <[N] ame> but no sound on avi playback in totem-xine 8(
[12:34] <dmacdonald111> I need to add something to my modules.conf files, but there doesn't seem to be one on the system. Is this the same as modules (no extension) or is it a file I need to create? Cheers
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> all the config file changes - never seemed to work.. i ended up renaming the window manager i wanted to use to be 'metacity' :P thats hard core fix lol
[12:35] <cius> dabar, it was recommended to me on the gnome support forums that I change my wm to xfwm4 in order to get some functionality that I'm looking for
[12:35] <dabaR> cius: in conf editor, this is what you do: Desktop>Gnome>Apps>WM. there it is, you change from /usr/bin/metacity, to whatever the program name is. but, what wm are you trying to get at?
[12:35] <[N] ame> I used openbox in 5.04
[12:35] <[N] ame> it worked great
[12:36] <[N] ame> but I cant get it to work in 5.10
[12:36] <dabaR> I use it now, its awesome.
[12:36] <dabaR> for what I need.
[12:36] <Confuzzled> hello all, could anyone help with with turning off ipv6, its screwing with my internet
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> i wonder why ipv6 is enabled by default. :P  guess for the power users
[12:37] <dabaR> /usr/bin/xfwm4 in that field will likely work, cius found it?
[12:37] <cius> dabar, to be specific, I want to be able to hold the Super key (windows key?) and the right mouse button and click 'n drag anywhere in an app window in order to resize it, just like you can do under metacity for moving it (system->preference->windows)
[12:37] <cius> sec, let me look, been typing
[12:38] <dabaR> cius: never heard of it, try that
[12:38] <nhaines> I've been forced almost entirely to Ubuntu this week (my main machine with WinXP crashes--looks like bad RAM now that I'm running memtest).  I've been very, very happy with it.  :)
[12:38] <Aven> hello
[12:38] <[N] ame> hello
[12:38] <cius> dabar, found ti
[12:38] <Aven> doesn't ubuntu come with gtk-config ?
[12:38] <nhaines> If all my files weren't on the main computer and I would be unlazy enough to set up extra codecs, I'd be all set.
[12:38] <nhaines> Hi, aven.
[12:38] <cius> it*
[12:38] <dabaR> tell me whether the change worked
[12:38] <sme2> hi, how could I disable the buffer writing to an mounted Device ? I mean it writes all when I umount(or sync) it. Could I deactivate that ?
[12:39] <dabaR> you/~'ll need to log out back in.
[12:39] <cius> dabar, doing that now, give me a second and I'll be back to let you know
[12:39] <kushboy> Can someone help explain to me what the mozilla-firefox-dev package is for and how I can work with it
[12:40] <lui> now, where can I find gstreamer0.8-lame, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, libdivx4linux and libdvdcss2?
[12:40] <glick> howdy
[12:40] <[N] ame> gstreamer ftl
[12:40] <dabaR> its a package for developers, some headers or what not. why do you think you want to use it, kushboy ?
[12:40] <[N] ame> xine ftw
[12:40] <dmacdonald111> hello
[12:40] <Confuzzled> so, can anyone help me with turning off ipv6, i'm pretty much a newb
[12:40] <nhaines> lui, I think -lame and -ffmpeg were in universe.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Confuzzled,  its mentioned in the Ubuntu forum/wikis
[12:40] <nhaines> Oh, but that's for Breezy though.
[12:40] <lui> they aren't
[12:40] <Aven> doesn't ubuntu come with gtk-config ?
[12:40] <glick> excuse me when i plug in a external drive into the firewire port ubuntu automagically looks at the drive and mounts it and all partitions
[12:41] <[N] ame> lui, save yourself some time, ditch gstreamer and get xine
[12:41] <kushboy> dabaR, I would like to get firefox's source, build it, and start playing around with the code
[12:41] <glick> does it just do that in gnome or does it do that even if you use another window manager
[12:41] <nhaines> Aven, I don't have a manpage for gtk-config.
[12:41] <glick> or even perhaps no windowmanager?
[12:41] <dmacdonald111> I need to add something to my modules.conf files, but there doesn't seem to be one on the system. Is this the same as modules (no extension) or is it a file I need to create?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> glick,  thats a gnome feature
[12:41] <lui> [N] ame, xine is better?
[12:41] <dabaR> kushboy: there is source, enable the source repos.
[12:41] <RockyBurt> wow, i am constantly getting errors while updating certain ubuntu repositories for breezy
[12:41] <glick> Dr_Willis, are you sure?
[12:42] <nhaines> kushboy, mozilla-firefox-dev are headers to help you write programs that work with firefox--it's not the source.  dabaR's advice about enabling source repositories is correct.
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> glick,  at least the auto-poping up of the windows is.. :P I disable tht part... the auto-mounting - is part of a deamon/service I think
[12:42] <[N] ame> lui, yes xine is better
[12:42] <karmatoburn> anyone know of a faq for converting a .exe to a .ppd file? tia...
[12:42] <cius> hey dabar, it didn't work.  I logged back in and its still metacity, confirmed by going back to config editor...
[12:42] <glick> i wish i couild get gnome to look like the default gnome
[12:42] <joe_> hello
[12:42] <cevizoglu> karmatoburn, what is a .ppd file?
[12:42] <lui> [N] ame, o then. thanks
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> glick,  you mean the origiaal installed gnome?  just delete your .gnome* dirs
[12:42] <karmatoburn> it is a file my stoopid printer wants
[12:42] <lui> [N] ame, ok then. thanks
[12:42] <joe_> mounting files got a quick question
[12:43] <glick> Dr_Willis, no the original gnome look
[12:43] <glick> as made by Gnome
[12:43] <glyn> my Ubuntu system literally freezes frequently..this happens when there's only 4 programs running, does anyone know why?
[12:43] <[N] ame> xine gives better video playback in my opinion
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> glick,  good luck there.
[12:43] <karmatoburn> i had thought i could unzip it but...
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> glick,  would be nice if all the disrtos could agree to use the defaults.. and perhaps have one menu with their own stuff
[12:44] <lui> oks
[12:44] <joe_> help?
[12:44] <TiMiDo> ask
[12:44] <nalioth> glyn: check you memory with memtest
[12:44] <joe_> mounting files from a windows server
[12:44] <glyn> how do I do that?
[12:45] <nhaines> glyn, that's my advice too.    Then choose memtest86+ from the list of startup options.
[12:46] <nalioth> glyn: one of your boot options should be memtest, or d/l the iso from ubcd.sourceforge.net
[12:46] <joe_> i'm tryiong to mount my files from my win2k3 server to my ubuntu laptop
[12:46] <glyn> k
[12:46] <joe_> i have samba, and smbfs
[12:46] <kushboy> Does anyone know how I can get the source for Firefox?
[12:46] <joe_> setup
[12:47] <nalioth> kushboy: visit mozilla.org
[12:47] <dooglus> kushboy: "apt-get source firefox"
[12:47] <dabaR> where does it go anyhow?
[12:47] <dabaR> dooglus: ^
[12:48] <nhaines> dooglus, do you have to enable the source repository first then?
[12:48] <dooglus> nhaines: yes
[12:48] <joe_> anyone able to help me?
[12:48] <nhaines> I'd imagine it goes to /usr/src/
[12:49] <dabaR> you can get it without sudo, and it comes to your home dir.
[12:49] <nhaines> joe: Samba should be installed by default.  Just go to Places and chose Network Servers, or Connect to Server... if you know what share you need.
[12:49] <nalioth> apt-get source brings it to your current working directory
[12:50] <dabaR> Ah, yes, that works out.
[12:50] <dabaR> and, ya, the repos are shown as told by ubotu, kushboy .
[12:51] <nalioth> dabaR: hows the professorial practice?
[12:51] <dooglus> i use a shell function called 'get-src' which does this:
[12:51] <dooglus> cd ~/src; mkdir -p $1; cd $1; apt-get source $1; cd $1-*
[12:51] <dabaR> meh. did not work out that great.
[12:51] <dabaR> really.
[12:51] <joe_> help?
[12:51] <joe_> ok nvm, i'll try later
[12:52] <dabaR> I was not that happy about the pres, and noone seems to be asking any support questions, so I doubt they use it. there is time, tho. I am off, I am reading stuff, like the book on OS licenses.
[12:52] <nhaines> joe_, I gave you some advice.
[12:52] <nhaines> dooglus, I really like that script.  I shall "borrow" it.  :)
[12:52] <cius> dabar, change did not work, its still using metacity.  I went back into the config editor and it still said metacity when I relogged in.
[12:52] <dabaR> I read that, thanks. I dont know what to tell you, that should change the WM, afaik.
[12:52] <dooglus> nhaines: it keeps your sources tidy, and you don't have to worry about where you started.  you know how to write a shell function?
[12:52] <dabaR> never tried tho.
[12:53] <cius> dabar, oh ok, thanks anyway, I'll figure it out somehow
[12:53] <cius> nm
[12:53] <nhaines> dooglus, cat > foobar and then chmod, right?  :)
[12:53] <nhaines> Wait, no, that's not a shell function.
[12:53] <dooglus> nhaines: no, no, I mean a shell *function*.
[12:54] <nhaines> Hm, this was convered in a "Introduction to Unix using Linux" class I took three years ago.  So no.  ;)  I could pull the textbook though.  It has to do with uh, .profile doesn't it?
[12:54] <dooglus> in ~/.bashrc, write "get-src ()" on one line; "{" on the next; the script on the next, and "}" on the next.
[12:54] <nhaines> Awesome, thanks.
[12:55] <dooglus> nhaines: .profile (which is called .bash_profile when using bash) is only run when you log in.  ie. never in ubuntu.  so use .bashrc which is run for each shell.
[12:55] <carambol_> how  get realplayer install in breezy?
[12:55] <nhaines> dooglus: which is also where I will now be putting /usr/bin/fortune (my favorite app of all time, really).
[12:55] <Crumit> hi
[12:56] <dooglus> nhaines: I put a nicely formatted version of get-src here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2859
[12:56] <AlexanRO> is there a way to apt-get a pkg stored locally, if so will it still resolve deps?
[12:57] <dooglus> nhaines: if you're going to run fortune from .bashrc, make sure it's after the check for "interactively"
[12:57] <joe_> nhaines, thanks i see that, sorry i missed it, i can't seem to find places as i have changed my desktop configuration. is there a command line i could use?
[12:57] <dooglus> nhaines: you don't want non-interactive shells having fortunes
[12:57] <nhaines> dooglus: that sounds like something I would break and never find.  Thanks.  :)
[12:57] <nhaines> Oh, but, I'll set it at the bottom, so I guess I'm safe.
[12:58] <dooglus> that's fine
[12:58] <comforteagle> Running hoary, I had apache1.3 running then did an apt-get install apache2, apache2-common php4.. now neither work.  Is there a way to clean this mess up?
[12:58] <comforteagle> other than wiping the disk that is.  8^)
[12:58] <nhaines> joe_: No, but running nautilus might help.
[12:58] <joe_> nhaines, nautilus?
[12:58] <nalioth> dooglus: not to rain on your parade, but #where #are #the #usage #instructions?
[12:59] <nhaines> joe_: at least, I don't know of any commandline.  Of course, you can always mount the share in your local filesystem.
[12:59] <nhaines> joe: that's the file manager in Gnome.
[12:59] <joe_> nhaines, i tired mounting and it's not finding the dshared files
[12:59] <ect4> hi
[12:59] <dooglus> nalioth: for what?
[12:59] <ect4> hi
[12:59] <nalioth> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2859
[01:00] <dooglus> nalioth: it's just a shell function.  you say "get-src <package>" where <package> is a source package...
[01:00] <tucoz> Hi, I am having trouble booting with the breezy kernel. It is freezing when loading the hotplug subsystem. Is it possible to disable this on boot?
[01:00] <odd->  My screenshot pwnz
[01:00] <joe_> nhaines, smbmount -t smbfs -o username <wshdf> //server/share /mnt/sare
[01:00] <odd-> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/0/Screenshot_932268_original.png
[01:00] <nalioth> dooglus: the more ignorant of us like #commented #out #instructions #with #our #bash #scripts
[01:00] <nhaines> take the password out of <>'s.
[01:00] <cevizoglu> tucoz, the hotplug subsystem is pretty important, not sure you would function properly without it
[01:01] <joe_> nhaines, and it doesn't  see it
[01:01] <dooglus> nalioth: ok then.  here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2860
[01:01] <joe_> nhaines, i did that to
[01:01] <nalioth> dooglus: i add instructions to all my bash scripts
[01:01] <nhaines> nalioth: that's not a script, it's a function.  Add a comment line above where you define it?
[01:02] <tucoz> cevizoglu: I guess it is. But, there might be some way to not load certain parts on boot, s.a. soundcard.
[01:02] <lui> [N] ame, xine is great thanks!
[01:02] <nhaines> joe_: I've been fortunate enough not to have any major problems with smbfs (and this was with Debian on my GameCube) so I can't really help you troubleshoot further.  :/  Maybe somebody else knows?
[01:02] <dooglus> nhaines: the 'latest release' has a 'usage' output - run it without arguments to see the usage: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2860
[01:02] <nalioth> dooglus: and i'm real real dumb, because i still dont know how to use that thing (everything in my .bashrc is commented as to function or provenance)
[01:03] <joe_> thx, i'll keep trying
[01:03] <hjk57> ...debian on a GameCube?
[01:03] <nhaines> Good luck.  :)
[01:04] <joe_> much appreciated
[01:04] <nhaines> hjk57: Yeah, PowerPC arch.  Runs like a charm.  Just needs a custom framebuffer and memory driver.
[01:04] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys need some help
[01:04] <PrimoTurbo> breezy rc
[01:05] <nalioth> PrimoTurbo: ask
[01:05] <PrimoTurbo> that was recently released
[01:05] <PrimoTurbo> what's the difference between that and preview
[01:05] <nemopaice> can anyone tell me why It says I don't have permision to create a folder in .../usr...?
[01:05] <PrimoTurbo> because I have preview burned atm
[01:05] <nalioth> PrimoTurbo: if your box is keepin up, it's current
[01:05] <Kyral> because you don't ;P
[01:05] <Ex-Cyber> is it possible to access hosts with "+" in the hostname using Firefox?
[01:05] <nhaines> RC means "Hey, we're going to release this so get any problems in now."
[01:05] <nalioth> nemopaice: b/c /usr/ doesnt belong to you
[01:05] <automat> hey, anyone here use development versions of fluxbox here?
[01:05] <PrimoTurbo> can preview be updated to rc
[01:06] <PrimoTurbo> and then to final?
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> I was wondering how to change the setting for the startup sequence such that the line length displayed is doubled, making it nicer aesthetically and fitting more lines vertically so I can see more of what's happening.  I have a 768x1024 display, and remember seeing this option before, in the form of a variable being set to 0xsomething.  Any ideas?
[01:06] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo: yes.
[01:06] <nemopaice> where can I create folders?.... and who does usr belong too?
[01:06] <djm62> nemopaice: as a normal user, you can only create and destroy files in certain locations.  use sudo to get permission to create or destroy all of them
[01:06] <Ex-Cyber> whenever I try to access one it just immediately pops up a "could not be found" dialog
[01:06] <nalioth> nemopaice: if you want to put something in /usr/ , use /usr/local/usr
[01:06] <PrimoTurbo> I just use the packet manager right?
[01:06] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo: although, preview can be updated directly to final as well.
[01:06] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[01:06] <PrimoTurbo> cool thanks for info
[01:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nemopaice about cli
[01:06] <djm62> nemopaice: your home is /home/username
[01:06] <nemopaice> ok ty
[01:07] <automat> anyone use fluxbox 0.9.14?
[01:07] <Surak> Hey, what means when the system stops doing anything and says constantly "Bus error"?
[01:07] <QMario> Is Seveas here?
[01:08] <nhaines> Sounds like a problem with the system bus (on the motherboard).  When did that start?
[01:08] <Surak> just happened.
[01:08] <SublimeInfidel> Anybody familiar with evo's?
[01:08] <djm62> couple of breezy questions: is there a recommended way to get usplash and beagled running?
[01:08] <nalioth> QMario: not atm
[01:08] <trekrem> Mitsu evo's?
[01:08] <QMario> Hello cafuego!!! :)
[01:08] <QMario> !lart Surak
[01:09] <QMario> Hello funkyHat!!! :)
[01:09] <funkyHat> hello QMario :)
[01:09] <djbrieck> Question about U 5.04 on laptops how do i stop the loss of screen on lid close?
[01:09] <Surak> **ubotu: seems I'm screwed without you slicing me :-)
[01:10] <QMario> Surak, sorry. It was just a joke?
[01:10] <QMario> Can you forgive me? :)
[01:10] <funkyHat> djbrieck, do you mean that when you open the lid again the screen doesn't come back on?
[01:10] <m0biu5> good evening everyone
[01:10] <djbrieck> funkyhat: yes
[01:10] <nhaines> djm62, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> djbrieck: It doesn't just lock, it won't come on at all?
[01:10] <nhaines> THat's for usplash, at least.
[01:10] <m0biu5> everytime I get an update for my kernel, I have to recompile my sound driver - is tere any way to get around having to do that
[01:10] <djbrieck> yeah stays all black
[01:11] <Surak> QMario: that's ok
[01:11] <djbrieck> is there as a way to bring it back
[01:11] <Surak> I'm just confused. Never saw this message. "bus error".
[01:11] <djm62> nhaines: ah, easy: cheers
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> djbrieck: Even when you touch the mouse or keyboard?
[01:11] <djbrieck> yeah
[01:12] <djbrieck> the cap light goes on and off
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> djbrieck: You could try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE, not sure if that would be related to your problem.
[01:12] <djbrieck> systems still seem to be running
[01:13] <djbrieck> the card is a nvida
[01:13] <djm62> final question: what does "FATAL: System.DllNotFoundException: libglib-2.0-0.dll" mean when trying to start beagled?
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> djbrieck: If you'd like, try closing it, opening, and after a moment the key combo above, and say what happens.  Of course, if that doesn't work, I suppose you probably have to restart or some annoying thing like that, right?
[01:15] <djbrieck> yeah
[01:15] <xivhwo> hei
[01:15] <djbrieck> I press the power once for a second
[01:15] <nhaines> djm62, it means beagled can't find that library.  See if you can add it in Synaptic or through sudo apt-get install libglib
[01:16] <djbrieck> and the system shuts down as expected
[01:16] <djm62> nhaines: I've been trying all that
[01:16] <nhaines> Did you install Beagle through the Ubuntu package repositories or from some other place?
[01:16] <djm62> nhaines: I'm guessing it's something about /etc/mono/config mapping
[01:16] <cafuego_> Hmm.
[01:16] <djm62> nhaines: I've done the CVS nasty before...this time, standard breezy
[01:17] <funkyHat> related to djbrieck's problem - i had trouble with hibernate in hoary (haven't tried yet in breezy), is it possible that that's causing problems here too?
[01:17] <djm62> nhaines: :) I'm an idiot
[01:17] <xivhwo> yew
[01:18] <nhaines> djm62: I'm in good company then.  :)
[01:18] <jim_s_> .
[01:18] <djm62> nhaines: I've done the CVS nasty, and "which beagled" tells me I'm still doing it
[01:18] <djm62> damn local paths
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> funkyHat: Possibly.
[01:18] <nhaines> hehe
[01:18] <djbrieck> also how can i be sure my graphics card has good drivers, I installed the nvid stuff from the packages
[01:18] <jim_s_> Can anyone help with an error in mounting and external drive?
[01:18] <funkyHat> well then your card has good drivers :)
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> djbrieck: Do you have acpi events or something similar tied to lid closing that might try to hibernate the computer rather than the default lock screen action?
[01:19] <cafuego_> djm62: install libglib2.0-cil and libglib2.0-0
[01:19] <djbrieck> i think dcpi is disabled
[01:19] <djm62> cafuego: I did all that...I just need to clean /usr/local/lib
[01:19] <djbrieck> acpi
[01:20] <cafuego_> djm62: Oh, got a bad install? Just remove /usr/local/lib from /etc/ld.so.conf and run 'ldocnfig'.
[01:20] <jim_s_> nhaines: Can you help with mounting a USB drive?
[01:20] <nhaines> That should be automatic; unfortunately I don't have one yet so I can't.
[01:21] <linuxzegnus> hola a todo el canal
[01:21] <jim_s_> nhaines: It mounts as a read-only device, I can't seem to get it to mounts r-w...
[01:21] <cafuego_> !es
[01:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:21] <linuxzegnus> hi !
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> djbrieck: If you had set acpi up for that you'd probably know it.
[01:22] <nhaines> jim_s_, that sounds like just the thing that would be covered in the wiki.
[01:23] <jim_s_> nhaines: I thought  I was following the man pages correctly, but evidently not...
[01:23] <eko> guys, sorry for asking it, but when will breezy the stable ver. be ready?
[01:24] <djbrieck> i checked some log somewhere and noticed it off
[01:24] <briander43> Hello all
[01:24] <djbrieck> yeah it is probably some work getting it on
[01:24] <xivhwo>
[01:24] <nhaines> eko: 13 October.
[01:24] <trekrem> Anyone have a fully working keymap for Apple Pro Keyboard?
[01:25] <cevizoglu> trekrem, why?
[01:25] <trekrem> because
[01:25] <eko> nhaines : thx
[01:25] <trekrem> i need one
[01:25] <nalioth> trekrem: there is one in the keyboard selector
[01:25] <cevizoglu> trekrem, do you need to reset it back?
[01:25] <trekrem> no there isn't
[01:25] <xivhwo>
[01:25] <trekrem> not in 5.10
[01:25] <trekrem> i mean 5.04
[01:25] <nalioth> trekrem: there's NOT?
[01:25] <cevizoglu> trekrem, just reset the keyboard map
[01:25] <nalioth> trekrem: i use hoary (5.10) with the macintosh layout and it works fine
[01:26] <elia> Hi
[01:26] <cevizoglu> trekrem, it's called the PMU setting, I think
[01:26] <elia> New Ubuntu 5.10 is super
[01:26] <nalioth> trekrem: go to system > preferences > keyboard and choose 'macintosh' layout
[01:26] <trekrem> yeah the macintosh one wasn't working correctly for me
[01:26] <nalioth> trekrem: what's not workin?
[01:26] <comforteagle> Running hoary, I had apache1.3 running then did an apt-get install apache2, apache2-common php4.. now neither work.  Is there a way to clean this mess up?
[01:26] <trekrem> now i gotta think for a sec, i'm currently in os x
[01:27] <trekrem> oh yeah, for one, the right arrow does not work at all, not with ANY layout
[01:27] <ubuntu_> hello all
[01:27] <Shane> Hi, I'm pretty new to linux and am having trouple with x server after installing new nvidia drivers.  I have both the conf and log file if someone can help me.
[01:27] <ubuntu_> anyone know what a MINOR partition is?
[01:28] <nhaines> ubuntu_: is that like a logical partition instead of a primary one?  Where do you see that term "minor partition"?
[01:28] <nalioth> ubuntu_: in parted it just tells you the partition number
[01:28] <trekrem> but in 4.10 it was working, but not in 5.04
[01:28] <nalioth> trekrem: does it work under OSX?
[01:28] <trekrem> yeah
[01:28] <ubuntu_> "minor partition" in parted utility
[01:29] <VeRiTTo> HI
[01:29] <VeRiTTo> How can i install manpages-es?
[01:30] <funkyHat> VeRiTTo, probably sudo apt-get install manpages-es
[01:30] <supergrover> G'day all. Is anyone here not using gdm or kdm - ie startx?
[01:30] <cevizoglu> trekrem, I seem to recall some ongoing discussions on ubuntuforums.org half a year ago about changing keymappings and detecting keymaps on PPC Ubuntu
[01:30] <briander43> Lookin' for some help with getting my Sound Blaster AWE 32 car working
[01:30] <trekrem> thanks, i'll have a looksie
[01:31] <St3althcAt> hi
[01:31] <briander43> I've read the wiki but to avail
[01:32] <nhaines> ubuntu_, I'd just type 'print' into parted.  That'll show you the minor partition number you need.
[01:32] <nhaines> ubuntu_, It looks like it's just the partition ID on the device you selected, nothing more.
[01:32] <Shane> After installing nvidia drivers I only get a black screen when x server launches.  here is my xorg.xonf http://rafb.net/paste/results/2af1sW78.html  and here is my xorg.0.log http://rafb.net/paste/results/U2jdE245.html  If anyone can tell what is wrong please help me
[01:33] <factotum> Shane, did you just recently update the kernel after installing nvidia drivers?
[01:33] <Shane> no, i just installed the kernel before installing the drivers
[01:33] <Shane> the whole OS even
[01:33] <VoltageX> I'm having big problems installing from pressed ubuntu CDs - read errors left right and centre when installing the base system
[01:33] <Thirsteh> Does anyone inhere have experience with getting the "can-play-more-audio-streams-at-once" in Ubuntu to work with an onboard AC97? You know what I mean ;)
[01:34] <Thirsteh> It doesn't work after install
[01:34] <factotum> hmm...alright. Ive always had to reinstall the nvidia drivers after a kernel update for some reason, otherwise I have to use "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[01:34] <St3althcAt> someone here can help me? I left a post on the forum but I think at this time it's better here. I've a problem installing ATi drivers 8.16.20, I've done it successfully before, but I had to reformat my Linux partition and now I can't get them working. I have the kernel headers, the .run file from ATi, all as I did before but when i start xorg, it starts with Mesa rendering and it has an error fglrx(0) incompatible module detected. Thank you!
[01:35] <nhaines> St3althcAt, are you getting the xorg-driver-fglrx from the Ubuntu repository?
[01:35] <St3althcAt> nope, that driver has some incompatibilties with some games, but that I can put working, but I would like, if possible, the latest version
[01:35] <St3althcAt> from the ATi website
[01:36] <St3althcAt> but if it is not possible I'll use that
[01:36] <Shane> Did anyone take a look at my log / conf and have any insight?
[01:36] <hjack> Okay, how do I disable the cdrom as a source from synaptic?
[01:36] <djbrieck> is there a way to mount an Ntfs partition on ubuntu alongside the current filesystem
[01:36] <ubuntu_> how to put the name of the recipient of the message and then the message? I never used irc chats
[01:36] <factotum> is hoary updatable to breezy through apt? or is a complete reinstall required?
[01:36] <St3althcAt> djbrieck, go to www.ubuntuguide.org, it's there ;)
[01:37] <nhaines> ubuntu_: type it.
[01:37] <factotum> I was going to change the repo's and do a dist-upgrade, but I thought I would ask first
[01:37] <nhaines> djbrieck, yeah, and it's simple.  ;)
[01:37] <nalioth> St3althcAt: please dont recommend ubuntuguide
[01:37] <St3althcAt> sorry :\
[01:37] <ubuntu_> but I see nhaines in red...
[01:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell factotum about upgrade2breezy
[01:37] <Shane> what's wrong with ubuntu guide?
[01:37] <nhaines> Nevertheless, the instructions for that particular task are correct.
[01:37] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[01:37] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:37] <St3althcAt> !faq
[01:37] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:38] <hjack> anyone?
[01:38] <hjack> synaptic question?
[01:38] <nhaines> ubuntu_: only with XChat, when I put your name at the beginning of my line.  :)
[01:38] <factotum> sure, rip on it, but use it to your liking lol
[01:38] <nhaines> hjack: just ask.
[01:38] <hjack> I did
[01:38] <hjack> Okay, how do I disable the cdrom as a source from synaptic?
[01:38] <hjack> ^-----repeat
[01:38] <St3althcAt> well is there any solution for my problem? :
[01:38] <St3althcAt> :\
[01:38] <ubuntu_> nhaines thanks
[01:39] <nhaines> St3althcAt, hm, once I got the Ubuntu drivers working for my laptop, I stopped.  The official source scared me a little.  ;)
[01:39] <St3althcAt> hum
[01:39] <logikal_> Having problem compiling files
[01:39] <logikal_> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/386692
[01:39] <St3althcAt> guess I'll use the ones from the repo then
[01:39] <nalioth> hjack: open your /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor using sudo and put a # in front of the line with cdrom in it
[01:39] <nhaines> hjack: either comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list or do it in Synaptic under Settings:Repositories
[01:39] <briander43> Can anyone help with getting my sound blaster card working?
[01:40] <hjack> nhaines, Thank you very much
[01:40] <nhaines> Well, nalioth is correct too, and he beat me. :)
[01:40] <Shane> When someone has time to glance at my xorg.conf and xorg.log files please send me a message
[01:41] <trekrem> hmm searched the ubuntuforums, found nothing useful regarding my issue with Apple Pro Keyboard and macintosh keymap
[01:42] <zblach> howdy
[01:42] <zblach> and happy thankgiving to all
[01:42] <St3althcAt> cya guys
[01:42] <St3althcAt> thx anyways ;)
[01:42] <zblach> anyone here know how to configure samba in breezy?
[01:43] <trekrem> can someone transfer me your working Apple Pro Keyboard keymap so I can analyze it
[01:43] <trekrem> from 5.04
[01:43] <nhaines> zblach: just for file sharing?
[01:43] <djm62> ok, cleaning out /usr/local, removing it from ld.so.conf and running ldconfig...these things aren't helping
[01:43] <juanfe> StrikeForce
[01:44] <StrikeForce> juanfe, whats up
[01:44] <zblach> nhaines, and printing. I'm on ubuntu and I want access to my win network
[01:44] <djm62> I still get " System.DllNotFoundException: libglib-2.0-0.dll" on running beagled
[01:44] <zblach> i'll take their printers, but mine is mine
[01:44] <juanfe> StrikeForce, pardon
[01:44] <zblach> i'll share, as long as its theirs i'm sharing
[01:44] <juanfe> StrikeForce, sorry
[01:44] <pminetti> hi!, I can't write in my vfat partition, in fstab a defines /windows vfat defaults
[01:45] <zblach> pminetti, i'll help. hang on a second
[01:45] <jmauricio> trekrem, i just have a powerbook, its useful for you?
[01:45] <StrikeForce> lol thats ok
[01:45] <pminetti> ok zblach
[01:45] <zblach> pminetti, change 'defaults' to 'users,umask=1000,rw'
[01:45] <trekrem> no, thanks anyway!
[01:45] <zblach> this gives full r/w access upon boot
[01:45] <pminetti> ok! zblach
[01:45] <zblach> solved that problem myself just yesterday ^_^
[01:45] <VeRiTTo> when I download a package where is that?
[01:46] <nhaines> zblach: it's on and configured by default.  Just use Places:Network servers or Places:Connect to server
[01:46] <zblach> nhaines, when I browse my network, i don't see it. I have a non-standard domain name
[01:47] <zblach> but i've configured smb.conf correctly
[01:47] <jmauricio> trekrem, there are some issues about keyboard, right now volume keys are fully functional
[01:47] <pminetti> zblach did I need to reboot?
[01:47] <zblach> pmin, no
[01:47] <jmauricio> trekrem but contrast keys not
[01:47] <juanfe> I have a usb hard/disk partitioned in NTFS format. When i boot ubuntu detect it but is read only and I can't write on it. How can I change to write mode?
[01:47] <trekrem> brb phone call
[01:47] <pminetti> ANdhow this take efects zblach?
[01:47] <zblach> just do this: 'sudo umount -a && mount (the drive)'
[01:48] <pminetti> thank very much zblach
[01:48] <zblach> where (the drive) is something like : /media/hdb2
[01:48] <zblach> not a problem
[01:48] <nhaines> zblach: samba uses WINS, not the normal DNS system.
[01:48] <zblach> nhaines, i'm not following, sorry
[01:49] <nhaines> zblach: Are you trying to use Samba over the Internet?
[01:49] <kbrooks> define sic?
[01:49] <zblach> nhaines, no, its my local wireless network
[01:49] <zblach> workgroup : Blacker
[01:49] <djm62> juanfe: NTFS is a proprietary filesystem, so you have to pay for access
[01:49] <zblach> juan, use fat32
[01:49] <djm62> juanfe: read-only is OK, but you can't write reliably/safely
[01:50] <pminetti> zblach grr its say divice is busy
[01:50] !lilo:*! Hi all. Need Spanish <-> English translation in #freenode.... thanks!
[01:50] <zblach> pminetti, which drives?
[01:50] <nhaines> zblach, make sure you have Windows Firewall open to allow File and Printer Sharing enabled under "exceptions."
[01:50] <juanfe> djm62, :-9
[01:51] <pminetti> zblach dev/hda3
[01:51] <zblach> nhaines, i haven't changed it. it should still be open
[01:51] <zblach> pmin, try a reboot. see if it works.
[01:51] <nhaines> By default I believe it is closed.
[01:51] <pminetti> ok zblach
[01:51] <pminetti> bye
[01:51] <zblach> nhaines, i had samba working 2 weeks ago. i had to replatform here
[01:51] <werto> yo all
[01:51] <zblach> wert up.
[01:52] <werto> have you try klik??? _
[01:52] <werto> it's wonderful
[01:52] <werto> it's apocalittik :D
[01:52] <juanfe> djm62, I woul'd write in NTFS?
[01:52] <werto> it's better than apt-get! _
[01:52] <zblach> ubotu, tell werto about synaptic
[01:52] <djm62> juanfe: not without giving money to microsoft, one way or another
[01:52] <logikal_> ubotu, tell logikal about compiling
[01:53] <werto> zblach, i know synaptic
[01:53] <zblach> ubotu, tell ubotu about ubotu
[01:53] <cafuego_> !botabuse
[01:53] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:53] <zblach> ok cool. ^_^
[01:53] <werto> zblach, klik is better, it's not apt-get, it's not emerge, it's not pacman, it's cross platform, you can install everything in every architecture
[01:54] <zblach> cool
[01:54] <nhaines> zblach, hm, don't think I can help with the Samba problems, sorry.  :/
[01:54] <joe_> hi guys, figured out my samba problem, not onto my realplayer problem
[01:54] <werto> zblach, try make wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O - | sh
[01:54] <zblach> joe_, wanna help me with my samba problem?
[01:54] <werto> it will install klik
[01:55] <joe_> what are you trying to do?
[01:55] <zblach> werto, i'll try it later. i'm working on samba now
[01:55] <werto> to install programs you have only to klik it in the page klik
[01:55] <werto> yeah
[01:55] <werto> :)
[01:55] <zblach> i'm trying to connect to my win network
[01:55] <werto> be happy ^_^
[01:55] <joe_> what have you installed so far?
[01:55] <zblach> samba
[01:55] <joe_> and what version are you running?
[01:55] <cafuego_> werto: Does that put stuff all over the filesystem without 'dpkg' knowing about it?
[01:55] <zblach> uh... i'm in breezy, and fully updated
[01:55] <briander43> can someone please help with sound card problem
[01:55] <zblach> so lemme check
[01:55] <joe_> oh i'm in hoary
[01:56] <zblach> briander43, have you alsamixered yet?
[01:56] <ubuntu__> hola
[01:56] <joe_> have you tried places>network servers?
[01:56] <zblach> ni hao
[01:56] <zblach> joe_, yes, and nothing shows
[01:56] <joe_> ok
[01:56] <werto> cafuego, i've read information into a italian portal, they said it's revolutionary, i've tryed it now, and i can confirm
[01:56] <joe_> have your started the samba service yet?
[01:56] <werto> it installed skype in my amd64 machine
[01:56] <zblach> joe_, samba ver: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1
[01:56] <ubuntu__> hay alguien por hay que hable espaol?
[01:57] <cafuego_> werto: That wasn't my question. Does that put stuff all over the filesystem without 'dpkg' knowing about it?
[01:57] <zblach> how to start samba service?
[01:57] <werto> cafuego, yes
[01:57] <briander43> zblach: yes, it says no such device
[01:57] <jmauricio> cafuego checa el canal ubuntu-es
[01:57] <juanfe> ubuntu__,  yo por ejemplo
[01:57] <zblach> briander43, when you go $alsamixer?
[01:57] <joe_> zblach, sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[01:57] <PrimoTurbo> How do I mount my NTSF drives so they stay mounted after restart
[01:57] <ubuntu_> damn
[01:58] <cafuego_> jmauricio: Wat? Waar heb je het over?
[01:58] <cafuego_> werto: Then running it on ubuntu is NOT a good idea.
[01:58] <zblach> joe_, worked, but i'm still not seeing my network
[01:58] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo: add them in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <briander43> zblach with "$", i did it but nothing happened
[01:58] <PrimoTurbo> how would I do that exactly?
[01:58] <joe_> now you need to mount your files
[01:58] <juanfe> ubuntu__, que tal?
[01:58] <werto> frl  ++
[01:58] <zblach> briander43, *sigh* sudo alsamixer
[01:58] <joe_> have your installed smbfs yet?
[01:58] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo: with a text editor.
[01:59] <werto> from klik site: "Imagine a .deb that you can run directly without installing it: that's .cmg"
[01:59] <jmauricio> cafuego__ excuse me
[01:59] <joe_> zblach, sudo apt-get install smbfs
[01:59] <cafuego_> werto: Imagine it writing to a file that was also in a Ubuntu package. That's "broken packages".
[01:59] <pminetti> zblach noy it's ok i can read a write in my vfat partition!!
[01:59] <briander43> zblach: sorry - i sudo'd and it said the same thing - no such device
[01:59] <pminetti> now sorry
[01:59] <jmauricio> ubuntu__ checa el canal ubuntu-es
[01:59] <zblach> briander43, i'm sorry. thats out of my depth
[01:59] <zblach> pminetti, glad to be of service
[02:00] <PrimoTurbo> I don't see a /etc/fstab
[02:00] <zblach> joe_, i'm just interested in accessing the other computers, not them to me
[02:00] <cafuego_> werto: If it just puts files under a dir of its own, that's fine. If it extracts to all over the filesystem, it badness.
[02:00] <briander43> zblach: any idea where I can search for help? I've gone into the wiki...
[02:00] <pminetti> zblach thanks
[02:00] <zblach> PrimoTurbo, fstab is a file
[02:00] <zblach> briander43, try getting alsamixer
[02:00] <PrimoTurbo> i see
[02:00] <joe_> yes but it s waht i went thru
[02:00] <joe_> bild on
[02:00] <joe_> hold on
[02:01] <PrimoTurbo> okay I opened it
[02:01] <PrimoTurbo> now how do I find out which drives I have
[02:01] <briander43> zblach: the full error says "function snd_ctrl_open failed for default: No such device
[02:01] <PrimoTurbo> and how do i add them?
[02:01] <zblach> PrimoTurbo, what are you trying to do?
[02:01] <joe_> smbmount -t smbfs -o username=zblach,password=password //server/share /mnt/share
[02:01] <werto> cafuego, it create only a file, .cmg, and it let your distro clean
[02:01] <Confuzzled> ok.. can anyone help me with this, getting the laptop mouse to work?
[02:01] <briander43> it seems as if it's not detecting my sound card
[02:01] <PrimoTurbo> they are windows xp ntsf drives
[02:01] <werto> it's fantastic
[02:01] <werto> it had only a problem for now
[02:01] <PrimoTurbo> mount ntsf drives
[02:02] <werto> you can only run max 8 apps for time
[02:02] <joe_> zblach, smbmount -t smbfs -o username=zblach,password=password //server/share /mnt/share
[02:02] <PrimoTurbo> I want them to be mounted at boot
[02:02] <PrimoTurbo> so I don't have to remount all the time
[02:02] <werto> http://klik.atekon.de/docs/index.php?page=Compressed%20Application%20Images
[02:02] <cafuego_> werto: Ok, so it created a compressed FS where it dumps its own stuff.
[02:02] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo, what are you doing to mount them right now?
[02:02] <PrimoTurbo> nothing
[02:02] <PrimoTurbo> I haven't mounted anything yet fresh install of breezy
[02:02] <werto> cafuego, read the page :)
[02:02] <werto> http://klik.atekon.de/docs/index.php?page=Compressed%20Application%20Images
[02:02] <zucaritas> hey anyone can help me mount de hard drives on my computer using the ubuntu live cd version?
[02:02] <PrimoTurbo> I have fstab open
[02:03] <PrimoTurbo> how do I add them now?
[02:03] <zblach> joe_ i need full access to these compies
[02:03] <zucaritas> totally newbie
[02:03] <zblach> not just a shared folder
[02:03] <werto> i'm gonna sleeping
[02:03] <werto> enjoy :)
[02:03] <werto> happy night
[02:03] <cafuego_> werto: Icky.
[02:03] <werto> see ya'
[02:03] <werto> peace and love :)
[02:03] <joe_> oh
[02:03] <Pajjj> Does anyone have a problem with some fonts cutting off letters in xchat?
[02:03] <werto> cafuego, whats icky?
[02:04] <nhaines> The default live CD should mount NTFS drives.  expert live does it, but it makes newbies'  heads explode.     :)
[02:04] <cafuego_> werto: cramfs app packages
[02:04] <cafuego_> werto: Well, icky for me, perhaps sueful for others.
[02:04] <joe_> zblach,  sorry mate wish i could help you out a little more, but that;s outta my league
[02:04] <joe_> good luck man
[02:04] <zblach> thanks anyways joe_
[02:05] <PrimoTurbo> does anyone know how I can view my drive information
[02:05] <Confuzzled> can someone help me get my touchpad thingie to work? i'll love you forever  if you do :p
[02:05] <PrimoTurbo> how do I see my partitions
[02:05] <PrimoTurbo> whats the command?
[02:05] <joe_> now about my realplayer question
[02:06] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: sudo fdisk -l
[02:06] <PrimoTurbo> ty
[02:06] <zblach> joe_, got it. was a firewall issue :$
[02:06] <joe_> anyone know what tar command i need to use in order to untar my realplayer10gold.bin file?
[02:06] <phoenixbyrd> uh
[02:06] <cafuego_> joe_: sh ./realplayer10gold.bin
[02:06] <phoenixbyrd> ./realplayer10gold.bin
[02:06] <phoenixbyrd> yea that
[02:06] <cafuego_> What on earth gave you the idea it was a tarball?
[02:06] <zblach> joe_, a different problem now
[02:07] <nhaines> It must have been the .bin extension.
[02:07] <zblach> how can I write to a networked computer?
[02:07] <zblach> ^_^
[02:07] <cafuego_> nhaines: Yeah, the ./cue must be missing ;-)
[02:07] <joe_> no such directory, my bin file in on my desktop i forgot to add
[02:07] <zucaritas> thanx nhaines
[02:07] <zblach> cafuego_, you can say that he doesn't have a ./cue
[02:07] <nhaines> hehe
[02:07] <cafuego_> joe_: chmod 755 realplayer10gold.bin; ./realplayer10gold.bin
[02:08] <juanfe> anyone know a utility to pass mp3 to ogg vorbis?
[02:08] <cafuego_> joe_: Install it to /usr/local!
[02:08] <cafuego_> juanfe: You will lose a lot of sound quality doing that
[02:08] <juanfe> cafuego, why?
[02:08] <nhaines> Hm, looks like my laptop is being stupid again (Turion64 processor is always running at double speed).  Gotta reboot and fix it.
[02:09] <cafuego_> juanfe: lossy compression -> lossy compression = crap sound
[02:09] <cafuego_> juanfe: both ogg and mp3 discard part of the signal, add those 2 together and you're left with crap.
[02:09] <joe_> cafuego, the file i am trying to untar is on my desktop, not located in root
[02:09] <juanfe> ogg is a bad format?
[02:09] <Juhaz> no
[02:09] <cafuego_> joe_: Ever heard of the 'cd' command?
[02:09] <nhaines> Somebody tell me what the difference is between kernel params noacpi and noacip
[02:09] <joe_> not familiar with it
[02:09] <Juhaz> it's not matter of bad or good
[02:09] <nhaines> joe: you can't untar it; it's not a tarball.
[02:09] <cafuego_> juanfe: No, but you should go from original source to ogg, not from a lossy format to ogg.
[02:10] <joe_> change directory?
[02:10] <Juhaz> juanfe, lossy compression is lossy compression, no matter how good it is it always takes away a bit, and when you stack those lossy rounds, it adds up very quick
[02:10] <joe_> nhaines, oh ic
[02:10] <nhaines> !faq
[02:10] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:10] <Gobbla> how do I check what plugins that are installed for firefox?
[02:10] <cafuego_> Gobbla: about:plugins
[02:10] <_jason> Gobbla:  about:plugins in address bar
[02:10] <Gobbla> ty
[02:11] <SPCcrow> Is there an ubuntu package for Totem Codecs?
[02:11] <cafuego_> !codecs
[02:11] <ubotu> hmm... codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <juanfe> juhaz, but i can uncompress and then do a ogg file
[02:11] <mjr> SPCcrow, gstreamer0.8-plugins installs most
[02:11] <Gobbla> application/x-director 	Shockwave Movie
[02:11] <Gobbla> doesent work! :(
[02:11] <joe_> shall i just apt-get install realplayer?
[02:11] <cafuego_> juanfe: uncompressing does not magically add the bits that wwere discared when it was compressed. They're gone (forever)
[02:11] <mjr> SPCcrow, though gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg might need spesific installing (it's in universe, patent stuff)
[02:11] <cafuego_> Gobbla: And it never will. That's proprietary &!@*@GDUGU
[02:12] <juanfe> cafuego_,  I see thanks
[02:12] <Gobbla> cafuego: shouldnt it work with crossover?
[02:12] <SPCcrow> mjr: thank you
[02:12] <IanLiu> Hello
[02:12] <IanLiu> Someone know if its possible to rise the resolution?
[02:12] <cafuego_> Gobbla: Macromedia don't have a director plugin for Linux. crossover isn't Ubuntu support-ware, so I don't know.
[02:12] <IanLiu> Is there a way to change screen resolution?
[02:13] <joe_> nhaines,  ok i cached the realplayer installer, but how do i pont the installer to me desktop?
[02:13] <Gobbla> cafuego: others have made it work.. :(
[02:13] <zblach> how can I write to a win box from my lin box through samba?
[02:13] <cafuego_> juanfe: Try a few (probably play mpg321 output into oggenc) and see if the quality is acceptable.
[02:13] <PrimoTurbo> does anyone know how I can reload /etc/fstab with out loging out
[02:13] <nhaines> joe_, you dont want to install it to your desktop.
[02:13] <cafuego_> Gobbla: Maybe i386 users can help you.
[02:13] <PrimoTurbo> I'm currently updating
[02:13] <PrimoTurbo> any ideas?
[02:13] <Gobbla> maybe i should reboot, its from windows after all..
[02:13] <zblach> PrimoTurbo, sudo umount -a && mount (drive)
[02:14] <joe_> oh but the file is on my desktop
[02:14] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: man mount, see 'remount'.
[02:14] <moea> i recently switched from freebsd to ubuntu - i like ubuntu so far, but a really annoying problem i have is that audio output skips or distorts if my CPU load is high.  this never happened with fbsd on the same machine
[02:14] <Gobbla> brb reboot.
[02:14] <IanLiu> Hi, is there a way to rise screen resolution? Or just shirink thinks. Its too big
[02:14] <cafuego_> moea: What kernel are you on? (uname -a)
[02:15] <nhaines> IanLiu, System:Preferences:Screen Resolution
[02:15] <IanLiu> thx
[02:15] <Juhaz> juanfe, that's what lossy means, those codecs work by trying to strip away the parts of sound human ear isn't supposed to hear, and that's why they can get the file size so small compared to lossless codecs.
[02:15] <bulio> does anyone know how to get a speedstream 5200 USB modem working in linux?
[02:15] <moea> cafuego_: <IP_ADDRESS>-3
[02:15] <Juhaz> oh
[02:15] <PrimoTurbo> I mounted my c drive but I have a problem viewing it in gnome says I don't have premission
[02:15] <joe_> nhaines, theinstaller asks me where i dwnloaded the realplayer and it ison my desktop
[02:15] <ron_> Stupid question:  what is the default root password?
[02:15] <cafuego_> moea: it printed more than that...
[02:15] <PrimoTurbo> how do I view it?
[02:15] <PrimoTurbo> and why don't I have premission to view it?
[02:15] <nhaines> Then tell it "~/Desktop" with no quotes.
[02:15] <macewan> don't laugh, how do i download a driver for an Intel Desktop Board D845GEBV2 mother boards ethernet connection?
[02:15] <macewan> remember don't laugh
[02:16] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: Check the umask, fmask, dmask, uid and gid options you added in fstab.
[02:16] <moea> cafuego_: <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 #1
[02:16] <nhaines> ron_, by default, there is no root password.
[02:16] <PrimoTurbo> I just did a mount command atm
[02:16] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[02:16] <PrimoTurbo> I haven't restarted to get fstab to work yet
[02:16] <da_bon_bon> anyone upgrading from hoary have had any problems ?
[02:16] <IanLiu> hmmm
[02:16] <PrimoTurbo> just mounted because I'm updating ubuntu
[02:17] <cafuego_> moea: Ok. You're on the installer kenrel. I think that doesn't support preemption. Install a kernel specifically for your cpu. (like 686 or k7).
[02:17] <IanLiu> there is only one option of screen res....
[02:17] <macewan> updated to breezy on two machines in the last week no probs
[02:17] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo, you don't have to restart.  You just have to type "sudo mount -a"
[02:17] <ron_> I'm trying to run synaptic and it wants a password.  I tried root, my password, and nothing but it won't let me in.
[02:17] <_jason> !tell ron_ about root
[02:17] <cafuego_> macewan: I doubt the controller is not supported by the normal kernel.
[02:17] <moea> cafuego_: thanks
[02:18] <nhaines> IanLiu, then that's the only resolution that was detected.  You can add others in /etc/X11/xconf.org
[02:18] <bart17> i have a problem installing hoary hedgehog.... pls help me...once its get to the unpacking of nic-extra modules...installing stops and does a loop
[02:18] <PrimoTurbo> what should unmask be set as?
[02:18] <PrimoTurbo> in fstab?
[02:18] <cafuego_> moea: Also check that DMA is enabled on teh disks.
[02:18] <PrimoTurbo> mine is at 0
[02:18] <da_bon_bon> macewan: openoffice.org2 ? kernel ? usplash ? all got in without problem ?
[02:18] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: 'umask' not 'unmask'.
[02:18] <da_bon_bon> bart17: why not wait for breezy ?
[02:18] <joe_> nhaines, ok so i wanna start fresh with my realplayer install, how should i start?
[02:18] <cafuego_> da_bon_bon: There were broken for a while, but seem to be working OK now.
[02:18] <IanLiu> could be that because im runig ubuntu with a CD?
[02:18] <PrimoTurbo> my bad
[02:18] <PrimoTurbo> i meant umask
[02:18] <da_bon_bon> joe_: get the realplayer package from debian-unofficial.org
[02:19] <da_bon_bon> cafuego: broken as in ?
[02:19] <PrimoTurbo> /dev/hda1 	/mnt/win_c 	ntfs 	auto,umask=0,ro 	0 	0
[02:19] <nhaines> IanLiu, that's possible but probably not that likely.
[02:19] <PrimoTurbo> is that correct?
[02:19] <PrimoTurbo> i have created win_c
[02:19] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: I normally use 007 as umask on such mounts.
[02:19] <PrimoTurbo> what does 007 allow?
[02:19] <bart17> da_bon_bon: why should i wait??? does it mean i can't install hoary ??
[02:19] <IanLiu> that path you sent me, is in CD?
[02:19] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: and set 'gid' to whatever the 'admin' groups gid is.
[02:19] <PrimoTurbo> what does 0222 do?
[02:19] <IanLiu> /etc/X11/xconf.org
[02:19] <macewan> da_bon_bon: usplash required I do a: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[02:20] <nhaines> joe_, I'd open a terminal window, type "cd ~/Desktop" and then "./RealPlayerInstaller.bin"  or whatever the filename was.  :)
[02:20] <PrimoTurbo> what is gid?
[02:20] <ubuntu_> Hello all
[02:20] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: 0222 is read/write for all (except yours is read-only anyway)
[02:20] <nhaines> IanLiu, not on the CD, but in the live system you're running.
[02:20] <PrimoTurbo> what is 007?
[02:20] <PrimoTurbo> yeah I need read only
[02:20] <PrimoTurbo> since it's ntsf
[02:20] <da_bon_bon> bart17: it was a suggestion, i did mean to force anything
[02:20] <ubuntu_> I need some help fixing an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy which did not do what I expected
[02:20] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu_: what happened ?
[02:20] <bart17> da_bon_bon: so can any1 help me here?
[02:21] <ubuntu_> The first thing was that I ran out of space on /usr
[02:21] <cafuego_> PrimoTurbo: Check the permission system in 'man chmod' or something.
[02:21] <PrimoTurbo> how do I unmount the drives?
[02:21] <da_bon_bon> bart17: yes. whats the problem ?
[02:21] <ubuntu_> With repeated apt-get -f dist-upgrades and the use of Synaptic, I was finally able to complete the installation, or so it looked.
[02:21] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo, with the umount comand.
[02:21] <da_bon_bon> ubuntulog: oh! noting wrong with ubuntu itself, right ?
[02:21] <bart17> i have a problem installing hoary hedgehog.... pls help me...once its get to the unpacking of nic-extra modules...installing stops and does a loop
[02:21] <ubuntu_> Rebooted, and the system leaves me at a console; x.org does not load
[02:21] <alexcamilo> how do you get .htaccess to work with apache 2.0 in ubuntu. i got my .htpasswd file above /var/www i have a .htaccess file in /var/www/ i made sure the line "AccessFileName .htaccess" is in my apache2.conf file. but there is still no password priotection. am i forgeting something stupid like a chown or a chmod?
[02:22] <da_bon_bon> macewan: kernel doesnt load auto ?
[02:22] <ubuntu_> I have no idea how to begin troubleshooting.
[02:22] <da_bon_bon> bart17: check the md5sums on the cd
[02:22] <cafuego_> alexcamilo: is mod_access loaded?
[02:22] <QMario> How do you make these scripts to run on here, when you are away?
[02:22] <ramblingturtle23> was wondering what the w32codecs are called in the breezy release
[02:22] <alexcamilo> mod_access? lemme check.
[02:22] <ubuntu_> Booted the live CD to get this far ...
[02:22] <nhaines> bart17: you'll want to verify the CD you have.
[02:22] <nhaines> ramblingturtle23: w32codecs are not included in breezy.
[02:22] <IanLiu> is the file name "xorg.conf"
[02:22] <IanLiu> ?
[02:22] <cafuego_> alexcamilo: You can check perms issues in apache2's logfile /var/log/apache2/error.log
[02:23] <nhaines> IanLiu, Yes.
[02:23] <IanLiu> k, thx
[02:23] <macewan> da_bon_bon: uninstalling the kubuntu usplash theme required I do it
[02:23] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu_: your nickname makes that part clear :)
[02:23] <cafuego_> alexcamilo: Oh, and you need mod_auth as well.
[02:23] <PrimoTurbo> great worked :)
[02:23] <ramblingturtle23> nhaines, i understand that but was wondering if anybody might know the name in that they would be in the universe or something
[02:23] <da_bon_bon> macewan: why was the kernel not automatically upgraded ?
[02:23] <cafuego_> alexcamilo: And possibly an AllowOverride directove for the dir you need password son.
[02:23] <PrimoTurbo> anyway to make the mounts show up as drives in computer?
[02:23] <ubuntu_> Seriously, though - would it help if I chose a more distinctive nick?
[02:23] <nhaines> ramblingturtle23, I think they were removed from there as well.
[02:24] <da_bon_bon> no, ubuntu_
[02:24] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo: mount them under /media
[02:24] <ubuntu_> K, thanks
[02:24] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[02:24] <PrimoTurbo> will do thnaks
[02:24] <macewan> ramblingturtle23: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20050412.tar.bz2
[02:24] <bulio> does anyone know how to get a speedstream 5200 USB modem working in linux?
[02:24] <ramblingturtle23> nhaines, well then guess i will have to find them somewhere else then
[02:25] <nhaines> ramblingturtle23, yes, you will.  They were contacted and asked to remove them.
[02:25] <nhaines> Being illegal and all.  :)
[02:25] <nhaines> ubuntu_: did you download the CDs?  I would boot the install CD, type "expert" (no quotes) at the boot prompt, and choose the menu item to verify the install CD.
[02:25] <xexex> anybody know how to control the mouse without a keyboard ?
[02:25] <macewan> ramblingturtle23: just get them from the source
[02:25] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? from the broken install ?
[02:26] <bart17> what do you mean md5sums? its my first time using linux...
[02:26] <bart17> nhaines: what do you mean???
[02:26] <ramblingturtle23> macewan: thank you i will
[02:26] <ubuntu_> Did not d/l the CDs but I could do. Will there be a problem burning the .iso since I've booted from the liveCD?
[02:26] <macewan> da_bon_bon: yup, had problems setting up the video on my work computer
[02:26] <cafuego_> Oh that's lovely. Evolution broke.
[02:26] <nhaines> ubuntu_, Oops!  Not you.  I mean bart17!  *blush*
[02:26] <IanLiu> A coment in a conf file is a prefix "#" ?
[02:26] <ubuntu_> Sorry ... n/p
[02:26] <nhaines> ubuntu_, Well, if you have two drives it is no probme.
[02:26] <nhaines> bart17: did you download the CDs?  I would boot the install CD, type "expert" (no quotes) at the boot prompt, and choose the menu item to verify the install CD.
[02:27] <cafuego_> IanLiu: Sometimes
[02:27] <IanLiu> because
[02:27] <ubuntu_> da_bon_bon, I didn't try a dpkg-reconfigure
[02:27] <macewan> da_bon_bon: also, my wifes Intel Desktop Board D845GEBV2 gave me hell
[02:27] <ubuntu_> Can restart and give it a shot
[02:27] <IanLiu> there are all resolutins written there
[02:27] <IanLiu> i want to comment the low ones
[02:27] <nhaines> IanLiu, uncomment the ones you want.
[02:27] <IanLiu> and let high ones to se if they appear
[02:27] <nhaines> IanLiu, It should use the first one listed there.
[02:28] <QMario> Do any of you guys program with B or D?
[02:28] <ubuntu_> Where does dpkg live? /etc?
[02:28] <bart17> nhaines: no... its an original cd... i've tried running the expert mode but it still stops during the unpacking of nic-modules.....
[02:28] <da_bon_bon> macewan: :( should i do a clean install then ?
[02:28] <lllmanulll> ubuntu_, which dpkg
[02:28] <nhaines> bart17, you mean an officially pressed CD?
[02:28] <macewan> http://www.youtube.com/index.php?v=7JcOS4q1F0Q  :-)  breezy bootsplash video
[02:28] <IanLiu> hmmm
[02:28] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu_: try that .. might get X back.
[02:28] <yeee> I just installed ubuntu and getting into gnome takes about 7 minutes(!) until the desktop appears. I installed xfce, and that works OK, but still some applications (mostly gnome oriented: calculator, gthumb) take several minutes until they show up. Any ideas on what direction I should look at for fixing this?
[02:28] <IanLiu> i cant edit conf file...
[02:28] <IanLiu> i cant writ in it
[02:28] <da_bon_bon> bart17: "original" cds can have problems too
[02:28] <rginn> question on startup:  ubuntu 5.10 starts at the $ prompt, how do i start the gui?
[02:28] <PrimoTurbo> when I mount them under media I get desktop icons
[02:28] <nhaines> bart17, If the CD is damaged it doesn't matter where you got it.  If you don't want to test to see if the CD is undamaged, there's probably not much we can do.
[02:28] <macewan> da_bon_bon: I'm not really qualified to provide an answer to that
[02:29] <PrimoTurbo> any way to remove the desktop icons don't need them
[02:29] <ubuntu_> lllmanulll - da_bon_bon suggested dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:29] <PrimoTurbo> I cannot move them to trash
[02:29] <IanLiu> how Ill change it?
[02:29] <macewan> hate to F* something up on somene elses box
[02:29] <da_bon_bon> macewan: ok.. :)
[02:29] <bart17> so how can i test the cd?
[02:29] <macewan> my machine, hey no prob, someone else??? heck no ;)
[02:29] <xexex> anybody know how to control the mouse with a keyboard ? oops
[02:29] <da_bon_bon> ubuntu_: as a normal user, just run the command.
[02:30] <nhaines> As I said, boot it and type "expert" at the boot prompt.  It's a menu option after that.
[02:30] <kevin__> Hi I am a not techie newbie to Ubuntu and Linux and having trouble with emacs dependencys everytime I am installing something?
[02:30] <ubuntu_>  ty, will try
[02:30] <IanLiu> is there another way to edit that conf file? in text editor is not possible
[02:31] <nhaines> IanLiu, you have to run the text editor with sudo.
[02:31] <macewan> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos.php?user=macewan   <- Ubuntu pr0n
[02:31] <bart17> then? i've already done that a lot of times.... as i've said it still does a loop during the unpacking of nic modules.......
[02:31] <IanLiu> hmm
[02:31] <macewan> later, time for movie
[02:31] <nhaines> bart17, then you may have a bad CD.  Try downloading and burning a new one, or borrow a friend's.
[02:32] <IanLiu> sorry, im a newb, but what is sudo?
[02:32] <bart17> okay...
[02:32] <bart17> is it true that they do free shipping of cds??
[02:32] <joe_> nhaines, it says no such file or directory
[02:32] <nhaines> IanLiu, it means "do this as the superuser."  It's like root but only for one command.
[02:32] <nhaines> bart17, yes, I got 25 of them for free, and I'll get 55 of them this time.
[02:33] <joe_> nhaines, it says no such file or directory when i type cd ~/desktop
[02:33] <nhaines> I had little trouble passing them out.  :)
[02:33] <nhaines> joe_, I didn't say that, I said "cd ~/Desktop"
[02:33] <Gobbla> umm anybody here who has made shockplay on crossover work?
[02:33] <bart17> hahah!!! when will be the next patch be released?
[02:33] <jrr> what kind of stuff does ubuntu patch into the kernel?
[02:34] <nhaines> bart17, Ubuntu 5.10 comes out in 13 October.  6 days.
[02:34] <xexex> how can i install kde ?
[02:34] <svfusion> what is the apt-get for java?
[02:34] <jrr> apt-cache search [search string]
[02:34] <nhaines> Xenguy, run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <bart17> where do u live nhaines?? how many days will it take for the cds to arrive at your doorstep??
[02:34] <kevin__> My errors look like this - E: emacs21:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:34] <kevin__> E: cedet-common:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:34] <kevin__> E: eieio:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:34] <kevin__> E: speedbar:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:35] <nhaines> bart17, I live in California, US.  It took about 4 weeks but I ordered well after the first CDs came out.  This time I expect I should get them in 2-3 weeks.
[02:35] <Gobbla> bart17: if you talk about shipit, count with months
[02:35] <Gobbla> depends on where you live though..
[02:35] <nhaines> But I am an optimistic guy.  ;)
[02:35] <joe_> nhaines, permission denied?
[02:35] <svfusion> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[02:35] <svfusion> java -version don't work anymore
[02:36] <IanLiu> i ran a programam. Its written "root@ubuntu:home/ubuntu #" is that?
[02:36] <bart17> okay... this time i ordered 55...will they be sending me the breezy??
[02:36] <nhaines> bart17, Yes.
[02:36] <_jason> can anything available in synaptic open a .pub file? (I believe this is microsoft publisher)
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> IanLiu,  Huh?
[02:36] <joe_> nhaines, permission denied? should i do this in the root terminal instead?
[02:36] <nhaines> joe_, I prefer to use sudo instead of the root terminal.
[02:36] <bart17> okay..thanks a lot for the help... should i have any problems with breezy, i'll visit this chan again....hehehe
[02:37] <IanLiu> hmm
[02:37] <IanLiu> its terminal
[02:37] <IanLiu> where i find Sudo?
[02:37] <nhaines> joe_, try running chmod a+x RealPlayerInstaller.bin
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo' is a terminal/console/shell command - correct
[02:37] <nhaines> IanLiu, you type it at the command prompt.
[02:37] <johnsie2> someone having trouble installing realplayer10?
[02:38] <Kagen> realplayer, eww
[02:38] <joe_> ok i did that and it changed the icon to a bigfoot
[02:38] <IanLiu> hmmm
[02:38] <IanLiu> so, where is the command prompt ... :(
[02:39] <joe_> johnsie, i am
[02:39] <nhaines> Okay, time to pull the bad RAM out of my computer and restart, then reboot this computer and get the kernal params correct.
[02:39] <johnsie2> i installed it yesterday... might be able to help
[02:39] <IanLiu> oh
[02:39] <nhaines> IanLiu, Applications:System Tools:Terminal
[02:39] <joe_> thatd be great
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> "terminal"  program gets you a  shell.. then ya may want to read a few bash tutorials/shell introductions.
[02:39] <IanLiu> i think i got it
[02:39] <nhaines> joe_, okay, that means you can probably run it now.
[02:39] <johnsie2> it was dirty but it worked
[02:39] <IanLiu> ok
[02:39] <IanLiu> now im in
[02:39] <IanLiu> so, now i writte what?
[02:40] <joe_> nhaines, it says cannt open reaplyer.biin
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> IanLiu,  depends on what you are trying to do.. :P  i forgot.
[02:40] <nhaines> joe_, Make sure you're typing everything exactly like it shows--capital letters and all. Here's a trick.  Type the first one or two letters and type tab.
[02:40] <johnsie2> it only works in your browser if you install it in your "path"
[02:40] <djbrieck> I can install realplayer in addition
[02:40] <IanLiu> to change screen res
[02:40] <djbrieck> i can't
[02:40] <joe_> it's working!
[02:40] <joe_> it's extracting right now
[02:40] <nhaines> IanLiu: now type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:41] <nhaines> No quote.
[02:41] <nhaines> Excellent, joe_!  :)
[02:41] <joe_> thanks!!!
[02:41] <AngryParsley> I have a problem with gnupod
[02:42] <khermans> anyone know how to extract just one file from a tar.bz2 archive?
[02:42] <AngryParsley> whenever I try and make a smart playlist, they are always empty
[02:42] <IanLiu> got it
[02:42] <IanLiu> ^
[02:43] <IanLiu> now i just save?
[02:44] <Big_Ed> New Linux user needs HELP!!!
[02:44] <Big_Ed> Trying to make a netgear WG111 work with the computer and cannot find drivers anywhere
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Big_Ed: what you just said is useless - it'd be more useful if you state your question in plenty of detail :P
[02:45] <IanLiu> nothing happened....
[02:45] <IanLiu> ubSection "Display"
[02:45] <IanLiu> 		Depth		24
[02:45] <IanLiu> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768"
[02:45] <IanLiu> 	EndSubSection
[02:45] <IanLiu> look
[02:45] <nhaines> IanLiu, No, it is not automatic.  You must restart the x server.
[02:45] <IanLiu> its like this
[02:45] <IanLiu> hmm
[02:45] <IanLiu> ok
[02:45] <IanLiu> thx
[02:45] <nhaines> But this will mean that you leave this chat room.
[02:45] <Big_Ed> Okay just did a clean install of Ubuntu, am now trying to get my wireless connection to work. I have a netgear WG111 USB Wireless adapter. I am unable to find Linux drivers for it and am wondering if anyone could help..
[02:45] <nhaines> Uh-oh.  I hope he's not restarting.  :)
[02:45] <XorgProblem> rehi room
[02:46] <nhaines> Big_Ed, you probably won't find Linux drivers.  You'll have to set up ndiswrapper to use the Windows drivers.
[02:46] <XorgProblem> I'm the n00b from a few minutes ago with the xserver problem in Breezy
[02:46] <nhaines> Big_Ed, that's enough for you to search the Ubuntu wiki.  You'll probably get more help from someone here who *isn't* leaving right now.  Which isn't me.
[02:46] <nhaines> Take care, room.  :)
[02:46] <p00f> does Ubuntu have Cinelerra in the apt repository? TIA :)
[02:46] <XorgProblem> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org went fine, but did not solve problem. Boot process still ends at a console screen
[02:47] <el_toro> XorgProblem: any error msgs?
[02:47] <XorgProblem> None
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> then it worked. :P
[02:47] <p00f> http://www.google.com/search?q=cinelerra&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[02:47] <XorgProblem> It looks like an ordinary boot past cupsd
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> lol
[02:47] <Hobbsee> p00f: tia?
[02:47] <p00f> Cinelerra rocks
[02:47] <XorgProblem> lol
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> try a normal 'startx' and see what it says?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> oh, thanks in advance
[02:47] <p00f> Thanks in advance + tia
[02:47] <p00f> =
[02:47] <IanLiu> hmm
[02:47] <XorgProblem> OK, will do.
[02:47] <IanLiu> restart server is restart the PC? (sry im brazzilian)
[02:48] <p00f> opps sorry wrong link
[02:48] <p00f> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[02:48] <oxez> Hi, I created a 9 GB FAt32 partition on my harddrive to install a VMware Guess OS on it. But when I try to create a new guess os, it tells me the filesystem doesn't support large file sizes (I chose 4 gb in vmware). Did I forgot to do something or I can't just do that?
[02:48] <p00f> that is cinelerra
[02:48] <XorgProblem> Where in the boot process does startx usually take place? - and how script it to make it happen?
[02:48] <Hobbsee> poof: not on here
[02:48] <IanLiu> how i restart server?
[02:48] <p00f> bummer :(
[02:48] <p00f> I many try compile from source
[02:48] <Hobbsee> find a deb for it?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> XorgProblem,  its normally ran by the gdm service
[02:49] <p00f> I have been looking for almost a year now... no DEB... I realy dont want to install fedora 4 :(
[02:49] <auk> IanLiu: i didn't hear the rest of the converstaion, but i'm guessign as in the X srver?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> p00f: good luck, i can never seem to make that work
[02:49] <Hobbsee> yuck
[02:49] <Hobbsee> rpm via alien?
[02:49] <XorgProblem> How verify gdm runs?
[02:50] <XorgProblem> Incidentally, I don't think I've thanked anyone yet - thanks, thanks to all of you
[02:50] <p00f> yea, thanks from me too :)
[02:51] <Hobbsee> lol...glad to see you arent like a certian person yesterday...was the first time i wished i had banning powers
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Moo?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:51] <XorgProblem> hi - sorry 'bout that.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> XorgProblem,  you should see a "starting GDM" message.. or just start it manyally as root.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:52] <XorgProblem> ty again
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> or theres some other way to do it..i forget. :P
[02:53] <el_toro> just sudo gdm does the trick usually
[02:53] <XorgProblem> Um ... I forget too :D ... difference is, I never knew :p
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> el_toro,  too easy!
[02:53] <XorgProblem> ty el_toro, Dr_Willis - I go to try ...
[02:53] <el_toro> heh
[02:55] <eazel7> anybody has a eagle usb modem?
[02:59] <AngryParsley> well I found out why gnupod makes blank smart playlists
[02:59] <Rubio_Medeiros> hiiii
[02:59] <AngryParsley> it doesn't support smart playlists
[02:59] <Rubio_Medeiros> Out there@
[02:59] <AngryParsley> and yet they have pages of instructions on how to make smart playlists
[03:00] <Rubio_Medeiros> Someones's brazilian here?
[03:00] <phoenixbyrd> does the play launch firefox extension work for anyone else?
[03:00] <Rubio_Medeiros> Algum natalense aqui?
[03:01] <el_toro> AngryParsley: does gtkpod do that?
[03:02] <rob_p> Rubio_Medeiros:  Parece que nao!  Pois falo.
[03:02] <MrGardenHoseMan> how do you mount an image?
[03:02] <AngryParsley> el_toro: gtkpod deleted all the files on my ipod
[03:02] <AngryParsley> I am pissed off at the gtkpod devs
[03:03] <Parisi> Brasileiro?
[03:03] <el_toro> AngryParsley: my goodness, how did gtkpod do that?
[03:03] <rob_p> Rubio_Medeiros:  Parisi :  Eles prefirem que a gente fala so Ingles nesta canal.
[03:03] <foamcore> whats gtkpod
[03:03] <jrr> AngryParsley: you got newest version?
[03:03] <foamcore> for ipod
[03:03] <jrr> foamcore: a linux program to put songs on an ipod
[03:03] <foamcore> ?
[03:04] <AngryParsley> el_toro: I don't know, but even my copy of the stewie griffin movie was deleted
[03:04] <foamcore> jrr: is it worth having an ipod?
[03:04] <XorgProblem> hi room
[03:04] <AngryParsley> jrr: I got whatever version was the latest in the repository
[03:04] <Versed> Sure
[03:04] <Parisi> rob_p Tudo bem, falo ingles 100% o dia todo anyways.
[03:04] <rob_p> Parisi:  :-)
[03:04] <AngryParsley> I love my ipod, but I wish itunes ran on linux
[03:04] <jrr> AngryParsley: CVS? i guess that'd be the most recent =]
[03:04] <XorgProblem> dr_willis - thanks for advice; got one step further.
[03:04] <jrr> AngryParsley: it sort of can
[03:04] <SPCcrow> What is a good .mov player for Ubuntu?
[03:04] <rob_p> Parisi:  Me too!
[03:04] <AngryParsley> jrr: no, from the ubuntu repository
[03:04] <kevogod> If the iPod worked with OGG Vorbis, I would buy it.
[03:05] <jrr> AngryParsley: ah-ha!
[03:05] <QMario> How do I download themes for Gaim?
[03:05] <jrr> it may be out of date
[03:05] <foamcore> jrr: do you get non mainstream music on the ipod like U2 vertigo..if thats the only song on it...that would suck
[03:05] <QMario> Seveas, are you back?
[03:05] <jrr> QMario: gaim uses the same theme as all of your gtk apps
[03:05] <jrr> *gtk2
[03:05] <AngryParsley> jrr: so I should install the development version and see if IT deletes everything on my ipod?
[03:05] <XorgProblem> startx runs, and I get the oldtime graphical interface of little black and white cross-hatches, no desktop
[03:05] <XorgProblem> Doesn't matter if I manually start gdm first or not
[03:05] <dr_willis> XorgProblem,  did you do a full install or a server install?
[03:05] <jrr> AngryParsley: i'd back it up elsewhere before even *attempting* to sync w/ linux
[03:05] <AngryParsley> all I want is smart playlist support, and there seems to be no program on linux that can do it
[03:06] <kevogod> "Smart Playlist"?
[03:06] <jrr> XorgProblem: edit your .xinitrc to change what happens during startx (try "exec xterm")
[03:06] <AngryParsley> jrr: well I backed up my songs and ipod database beforehand, but I didn't think it would delete other stuff
[03:06] <XorgProblem> Was not a clean install; I ran an upgrade from Hoary
[03:06] <kevogod> Doesn't amaroK support something like that?
[03:06] <jrr> AngryParsley: itunes is one of the reasons i keep windows around. maybe someday i'll try linuxpodding, too
[03:06] <QMario> Jrr, I can't find any themes in SPM.
[03:06] <dr_willis> XorgProblem,  no clue there...  ;p i refomatd/reinstalled
[03:06] <jrr> QMario: spmg?
[03:06] <jrr> *spm
[03:07] <jrr> try art.gnome.org
[03:07] <XorgProblem> reformat /reinstall is not a good option for me.
[03:07] <XorgProblem> A lot of existing work
[03:07] <QMario> Synaptic Package Manager.
[03:07] <AngryParsley> kevogod: smart playlists are dynamically updated, meaning you can select songs that meet certain criteria
[03:07] <AngryParsley> I have a smart playlist of my favorite songs, which are songs with a 5 star rating
[03:07] <jrr> QMario: i don't use synaptic much, but try apt-cache search gnome-themes
[03:07] <XorgProblem> jrr - I'm a dunce. Can sudo gedit, but what do I change?
[03:07] <rubem> Hi there...
[03:07] <Rubio_Medeiros> #natal
[03:07] <rubem> where do I found emacs?
[03:08] <phoenixbyrd> I need help getting the realplayer plugins working
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !emacs
[03:08] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:08] <jrr> XorgProblem: .xinitrc is executed when you use startx, but GDM ignores it.  i think you need to solve the problem another way, which i don't know =\
[03:08] <QMario> Jrr, I think you misunderstood me. How do I get the emoticon(smiley) themes?
[03:08] <jrr> QMario: yes, i misunderstood you =]
[03:08] <dr_willis> in .xinitrc - put the 2lines...
[03:08] <jrr> QMario: dunno, try #gaim
[03:08] <dr_willis> xterm &
[03:08] <dr_willis> gnome-session
[03:08] <rubem> does anyone know which repositorie has the emacs?
[03:08] <QMario> Wow there's a channel for that????
[03:08] <dr_willis> and try 'startx'
[03:08] <el_toro> XorgProblem: have you checked the Xorg logs to see what's happening?
[03:09] <jrr> QMario: been around a long time =]
[03:09] <QMario> Hee.
[03:09] <XorgProblem> el_toro No ... can do, though; logs live where?
[03:10] <el_toro> /var/log
[03:10] <eazel7> anybody uses eagle usb modems?
[03:10] <el_toro> Xorg.0.log, it should be called
[03:10] <BlankB> rubem: main
[03:10] <djjason> hi all, is it possible to update libc6 through apt-get
[03:10] <XorgProblem> dr_willis - let me feed that back: edit xinitrc; add two lines: xterm and gnome-session, and also add startx?
[03:11] <XorgProblem> el_toro - what directory does the log live in?
[03:13] <XorgProblem> .xinitrc lives in ~ ?
[03:13] <limer> hello guys.  I have an interesting situation.  I need to use ssh over 80.  this works internally but not externally
[03:13] <dr_willis> XorgProblem,  no... startx reads that file
[03:13] <fmasi_> hi where should i add mount --bind /from /to can i put that in /etc/fstab
[03:13] <lcharly_TheOne> can somebody help my
[03:13] <lcharly_TheOne> my mplayer don't work
[03:13] <dr_willis> and its 'xterm &' on one line  then 'gnome-session' on the next
[03:13] <dr_willis> xterm is optional but handy
[03:13] <XorgProblem> Ah. 'xterm &'
[03:13] <XorgProblem> OK
[03:13] <cef> djjason: yes
[03:13] <lcharly_TheOne> when i play a video file it's closed by signal 11
[03:14] <dr_willis> forget the & and thenext line wont run
[03:14] <joniak99> anyone::::how or with what ? do i burn dvd from avi file
[03:14] <lcharly_TheOne> something about a video codec
[03:14] <jrr> dr_willis: you start your x sessions with an extra xterm?
[03:14] <XorgProblem> I'm assuming the file doesn't exist. Where should I create it?
[03:14] <jrr> ~/.xinitrc
[03:14] <Lord_Athur> Hi
[03:14] <XorgProblem> Thank you all :D
[03:14] <dr_willis> linux and X fundamentals ;p
[03:14] <dr_willis> old-skool
[03:14] <XorgProblem> I hope I'll be seeing you without benefit of the liveCD shortly ...
[03:14] <djjason> cef, how can I, I am running hoary...and using mu sources list I have the most recent version
[03:14] <XorgProblem> <-- older
[03:15] <dr_willis> you could install an  console irc client ya know.....
[03:15] <dr_willis> irssi is handy
[03:15] <dr_willis> :)
[03:15] <XorgProblem> I knew Netware inside and out. But Linux ... not so much
[03:15] <XorgProblem> irssi
[03:15] <XorgProblem> Will find it.
[03:15] <dr_willis> you can do most anything from the shell lol
[03:15] <XorgProblem> does Breezy include either lynx or irssi?
[03:15] <cef> djjason: then you don't need to upgrade it perhaps?
[03:15] <limer> hi guys.  I have an interesting situation.  I need to use ssh over 80.  this works internally but not externally.  anyone may know what's happening?
[03:15] <kevogod> XorgProblem, You can install them from packages.
[03:16] <XorgProblem> Cool beans. Thank you all again. Once I have this puppy up and running I will do that.
[03:16] <XorgProblem> You never know what you'll need.
[03:16] <thechris> need help with nvidia drivers
[03:16] <fmasi_> hi where should i add mount --bind /from /to can i put that in /etc/fstab ??
[03:16] <djjason> cef, I do...I was trying to install pine and it says that it needs libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 but I have 2.3.2.ds1-20 which is the latest according to apt
[03:17] <thechris> for some reason, using nv or nvidia means i have a max resolution of 640x480
[03:17] <cef> djjason: your sources must point at a version of the package that is newer to upgrade. If there is a newer version for hoary that you haven't installed, then run 'sudo apt-get update' to update the packages available
[03:17] <thechris> vesa works at any res though
[03:17] <thechris> also, gdm stopped working
[03:17] <cef> djjason: sounds like you might not have the security sources setup, or up to date
[03:18] <thechris> anyone know of an easy way to fix the nvidia issues i'm having?
[03:18] <rubem> how do i unpack a .tar.gz?
[03:19] <Parisi> rubem tar xfvz ?
[03:19] <cef> thechris: what sort of monitor/display do you have?
[03:19] <lcharly_TheOne> anyone know why my mplayer dosen't work it's something about a video codec
[03:19] <Ramah> thechris: is that your only setting within your x.org file?
[03:19] <rubem> Parisi thanks
[03:19] <jrr> Ramah: need a little more information =]
[03:19] <djjason> cef, I did allready try apt-get update and it still shows my installed version as the latest one
[03:20] <Parisi> rubem No problem, look into the different options for tar
[03:20] <jrr> Ramah: but even then, the #mplayer folks would be more likely to know
[03:20] <St3althcAt> hey guys I'm having a problem playing World of Warcraft on Cedega, I can't attack enemies, loot corpses, etc.... Can someone help me? Thank you!
[03:20] <cef> djjason: is the source providing pine an official one?
[03:20] <thechris> Ramah, i've also removed all of the other resolutions besides 1024x768
[03:20] <yoink23> St3althcAt, try #cedega
[03:20] <Ramah> hmm dunno
[03:21] <djjason> I downloded a deb packge for pine form the pine website
[03:21] <thechris> cef, not sure what xorg thinks i have, but vesa does work at 1024x768.  nvidia doesn't
[03:21] <dr_willis> St3althcAt,  you mean you cant 'select' any target - ie mailox. people, npc, etc......
[03:21] <djjason> cef, so I am guessing that it is as official as it gets
[03:21] <cef> St3althcAt: I think that's a known issue that's fixed in a later version.. try #cedega though
[03:22] <dr_willis> its a known cedega/x issue that can be fixed  with a dll file change or somting - it was in their forums/faq the other day i saw
[03:22] <cef> djjason: that'll be for debian. which has a different version of libc.. try removing it and then just 'apt-get install pine'.
[03:22] <AlexanRO> does the "dpkg-scanpackages..." command need to be run everytime i add to my local repo?
[03:22] <cef> djjason: pine is in the ubuntu repositories
[03:23] <cef> thechris: yeah but is it a monitor, or a lcd display, or perhaps a laptop screen?
[03:23] <thechris> cef, monitor
[03:23] <KRomeleoN> will ubyuntu by default have ssci drivers?
[03:23] <KRomeleoN> scsi
[03:24] <djjason> cef, really....I did a search and I could not find it
[03:24] <cef> thechris: hrm.. you might want to tell X it's horizontal and vertical scan rates.. you also might want to turn off EDID
[03:24] <St3althcAt> ty
[03:24] <cef> djjason: then it'd probably be in the universe repository
[03:25] <thechris> cef, EDID?
[03:25] <djjason> cef, I just updated my sources list and now I am getting whole bunch of errors "couldnt stat source package" on a few entries
[03:25] <durt> Option "IgnoreEDID" true
[03:25] <djjason> cef, when I do apt-get update
[03:26] <anethema> doesnt any0one know of a good news reader for linux? pref one in apt..one good for dling binaries?
[03:26] <cef> thechris: I had to add the following lines to the "Monitor" section of my xorg.conf to get it to work on my laptop: Option "IgnoreEDID"
[03:26] <cef>  ; HorizSync 29-57
[03:26] <cef>  ; VertRefresh 43-60
[03:26] <thechris> why does everything always work so much easier in gentoo.
[03:26] <nix4me> pan is good newsreader
[03:26] <anethema> i hate pan
[03:26] <dr_willis> thechris,  i found the opposite to be true
[03:26] <anethema> hahah
[03:26] <Pajj> Does anyone know a good white ubuntu themed wallpaper?
[03:26] <anethema> pan sucks for binaries because after something is saved it takes FOREVER to be copied
[03:27] <anethema> doesnt just dl into the dir you want which is horrible
[03:27] <Yetr2> .... I still can't get the nvidia binary to install..
[03:27] <cef> thechris: EDID is a detection mechanism used to figure out the resolutions your monitor supports.. works over the cable between the monitor and the video card..
[03:27] <AlexanRO> pajj: try gnome-look.org
[03:27] <anethema> thanks though, is there another/
[03:27] <thechris> how does X ever start?!  it should be complaining that her are no screens
[03:27] <dr_willis> i tend to use pan
[03:27] <ubuntu__> hello
[03:27] <durt> yetr2: apt-get nvidia-glx
[03:27] <Pajj> ah, thanks
[03:27] <dr_willis> lol - select all... save atacments.. ;-) for all my porn neds.
[03:27] <Yetr2> durt, already did that
[03:27] <cef> thechris: I found the nvidia one is a bit broken, and in fact, so is the EDID stuff in my laptop screen, making it twice as bad
[03:27] <dr_willis> bbl
[03:27] <AlexanRO> pajj: np
[03:28] <bytefoo> gentlemen, i have an issue with ubuntu :|
[03:28] <bytefoo> it will not reboot :/
[03:28] <durt> yetr2: change "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:28] <cef> djjason: sounds like your sources are wrong, or they didn't update.
[03:28] <alyks> I'm having some problems, whenever I try to rune apt-get update, some of the souces return an error: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:28] <cevizoglu> bytefoo, why?  have you tried "sudo reboot" from the terminal?
[03:28] <thechris> did ubuntu even attempt to configure X?!
[03:28] <djjason> cef: I copied them diretly from ubuntuguide.org
[03:28] <bytefoo> yes, it will hang
[03:28] <misfit_toy> durt, I'm confused about that, is that really the same as the latest nvidia drivers from the nvidia site? I use that but get a segfault when trying to do "nvidia-settings" or "glxgears" and I get no GL support in xscreensavers
[03:28] <bytefoo> something like [4847376733.747474]  Rebooting...
[03:28] <bytefoo> and just stay like that forever
[03:29] <cef> djjason: no spaces at the start of the line?
[03:29] <thechris> now its complaining about GLX
[03:29] <cevizoglu> bytefoo, did you try switching to another terminal session and looking to see what processes are still running?
[03:29] <thechris> and is 640x480
[03:29] <bytefoo> no, perhaps i will try that
[03:29] <alyks> I'm running 5.04
[03:29] <bytefoo> though even when i installed it it would not reboot
[03:29] <cef> bytefoo: when does it hang?
[03:30] <wmat> just apt-get dist-upgraded to breezy badger and X broke.  The log says "could not open default font 'fixed'".  Can anyone point me at a quick fix for this?
[03:30] <djjason> cef: which line?
[03:30] <hajiki> is it possible to disable ipv6 alltogether from ubuntu
[03:30] <XorgProblem> hi room
[03:30] <bytefoo> at the very end of the rebooting process
[03:30] <Lord_Athur> hi
[03:30] <XorgProblem> Still having the problem loading X
[03:30] <cef> djjason: which one did you add? which one most resembles the "stat" entries?
[03:30] <misfit_toy> wmat, that happened to me to, I could never fix it, had to install fresh
[03:30] <bytefoo> after it has shut down everything
[03:30] <cevizoglu> bytefoo, maybe your hardware isn't accepting the regular reboot command and just needs to be hard-rebooted each time
[03:30] <andresh> hi
[03:30] <bytefoo> yes cevizoglu that is what i am forced to do
[03:30] <XorgProblem> :(
[03:31] <andresh> I need password to wiki ubuntu.com
[03:31] <wmat> misfit_toy: thanks
[03:31] <cef> wmat: you might need to install some extra packages like ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-core
[03:31] <cevizoglu> bytefoo, sound like an incompatibility with the motherboard
[03:31] <andresh> my mail is bad
[03:31] <andresh> I need help
[03:31] <misfit_toy> wmat, and sorry for that info!
[03:31] <cef> wmat: there is something about it on the wiki somewhere
[03:31] <bytefoo> it works with windows :/
[03:31] <durt> misfit_toys: i think they are the real drivers, and you might need to comment out the "dri" lines
[03:31] <bytefoo> and in 5.04
[03:31] <djjason> cef: well it st 404 Not Found
[03:31] <djjason> Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages
[03:31] <djjason> arts by saying
[03:31] <misfit_toy> durt, did that, weird...ok thanks
[03:31] <cevizoglu> bytefoo, submit a bug and it might get fixed more quickly
[03:32] <thechris> haha, manual configuration works again
[03:32] <thechris> now anyone know how to get GLX working?
[03:32] <bytefoo> i shall
[03:32] <WinZ>  :-*
[03:32] <WinZ> sorry )
[03:32] <thechris> nivida-glx is installed  but no idea how to get opengl-update
[03:32] <cef> djjason: that might no longer be a valid repo
[03:32] <bytefoo> which log file does the rebooting messages go to
[03:32] <thechris> opengl-update anyone?
[03:32] <andresh> somebody can helpme
[03:32] <andresh> ?
[03:32] <cef> djjason: why aren't you using a normal universe repo?
[03:33] <djjason> cef: I thought I was....before....been a while since I looked at it
[03:34] <thechris> and i should say goodbye to synaptic...  no longers starts...
[03:34] <XorgProblem> I'm tempted to reinstall Hoary; I have the CD.
[03:34] <cef> djjason: official universe source line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[03:34] <cevizoglu> is there a movielink equivalent on linux?
[03:35] <XorgProblem> I want to be super careful to preserve my existing partitions, though - esp my /home
[03:35] <cevizoglu> I mean, http://movielink.com
[03:35] <XorgProblem> I did not use the standard Ubuntu scheme, which may be part of the problem
[03:35] <trigger> hello everyone :) i have a question that is killing me. i have installed ubuntu breezy, there was a linux image update from 2.12.8 to 2.12.9. Now i have both when i get to grub, i commented out the latest one because the splash screen was broken. My question is, can i keep using the old version. it works fine now, but im not sure about later....
[03:36] <el_toro> XorgProblem: what does /var/log/Xorg.O.log say?
[03:36] <djjason> cef: should that be instead of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[03:36] <cef> djjason: that should work just as well..
[03:36] <thechris> nvidia + GLX = ???
[03:36] <trigger> the old version is obsolete according to synaptic
[03:36] <XorgProblem> aw ... fooey. I forgot entirely to check it, el_toro. I'm sick today and not tracking as well as I ought to be
[03:36] <Licker> Is there a way to connect internet to Ubuntu via USB?
[03:37] <el_toro> XorgProblem: np, there might something useful in it
[03:37] <Gobbla> when breezy is stable, should you make a clean install or is it fine to just upgrade?
[03:37] <_jason> Gobbla:  I just upgraded and it is fine
[03:37] <XorgProblem> I just upgraded and am in trouble ... :)
[03:37] <Gobbla> lol
[03:37] <Termin8tor> Licker, if your using a speedtouch dsl modem you can connect to the net using ubuntu
[03:38] <Termin8tor> via usb
[03:38] <cef> thechris: if you've got nvidia's drivers installed (using the packages in ubuntu, not the downloaded installer from nvidia), have you run nvidia-glx-config yet? 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[03:38] <djjason> cef: I removed some of the sources I believe are not available anymore....ran update and that finished without any problems. Searched for pine and found it but I got this error when I tried to install. Package pine has no available version, but exists in the database.
[03:38] <Licker> Termin8tor: I have cable.. whats speedtouch though?
[03:38] <trigger> how do someone upgrade from version to version. is that possible?
[03:38] <XorgProblem> is there an easy way to mount my HD while running from the live CD?
[03:39] <Termin8tor> oh, speedtouch is a type of usb DSL modem, if you have cable why don't you use ethernet?
[03:39] <Licker> I have USB on my cable modem.
[03:39] <el_toro> trigger: as in upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[03:39] <wizard> hi all
[03:39] <cef> djjason: actually I'm on breezy, and just noticed that pine isn't available either. erk. that's no fun
[03:39] <Termin8tor> licker : Not totally sure about USB with your cable modem, try googling the brand name of your modem for linux drivers?
[03:39] <Licker> my router is screwd up and wont let me host. all the ports are auto configged and cant be changed and they are wrong. SSOO.. i wanna put that box on via USB to get its own IP addy
[03:40] <trigger> no, as an upgrade from breeze the testing to breezy the final to the next ubuntu in the future :)
[03:40] <wizard> is there a way to install sb live 5.1 somehow ? i cant turn mp3s up loud or distorts ?
[03:40] <kbrooks> trigger: yes thats possible
[03:40] <_[> i heard that GNOME is bloated...is this true?
[03:40] <cef> djjason: basically if you were really desperate, you'd want to install libc6 from debian sarge, but I DO NOT recommend doing that in any way, as you can expect that a lot of ubuntu will stop working.. important things, like X and Gnome
[03:40] <el_toro> trigger: yes, just keep updating
[03:40] <trigger> hi kbrooks, do you know how or can you tell me where can i find info on it ?
[03:41] <trigger> ok
[03:41] <XorgProblem> BTW - problem with X continues as follows. Tried to load xterm - bash said "xterm? why how you talk, what xterm?"
[03:41] <XorgProblem> Same w/gnome-session
[03:41] <kbrooks> trigger: dont ask specific people
[03:41] <djjason> cef: I see....crap.....then I will just have to patiently wait for Mr. Ubuntu to fix this :)
[03:41] <trigger> ok :)
[03:41] <trigger> sorry
[03:41] <cef> djjason: so I think you either will have to download the package source, and compile a package yourself, or go without pine
[03:41] <kbrooks> trigger: it gets annoying. totally/
[03:41] <dicrapio> hello
[03:41] <kbrooks> _[: opinion
[03:41] <djjason> cef: I think I will let this go for now.....thanks for all your help though
[03:42] <cef> djjason: no problem
[03:42] <rubem> can I unpack a .iso?
[03:42] <_[> kbrooks, so its not true?
[03:42] <kbrooks> _[: subjective, i'm not gonna answer ;)
[03:42] <CarlFK> rubem - you can mount it
[03:42] <dicrapio> quick ques, whats the easiest way tomake a deb pkg?
[03:42] <_[> kbrooks, ok then thanks ;_
[03:42] <rubem> CarlFK, how?
[03:43] <trigger> wao, i was afraid that i had to reinstall the new ubuntu when i comes out in a week
[03:43] <kbrooks> rubem: mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point
[03:43] <kbrooks> trigger: this isnt windows/
[03:43] <kbrooks> .*
[03:43] <trigger> i mean when it comes out
[03:43] <trigger> :) thanks god
[03:43] <trigger> it is not
[03:44] <XorgProblem> Let me ask a different qstn - when I last reinstalled Hoary, I remember seeing a confusing prompt about whether to use my existing partitions or not. Can anyone tell me what I should say? I ****DO**** want (need) to use my existing partitions; they have data I need
[03:44] <kbrooks> rubem: then cp -ar /mount/point /other/path
[03:44] <XorgProblem> That is - if I reinstall Hoary
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> XorgProblem, normally i use different partition as my /home
[03:45] <kbrooks> rubem: then umount (if done using it) with either umount /path/to/iso or umount /mount/point
[03:45] <XorgProblem> Can I tell the installation to skip my /home, wickedpuppy?
[03:45] <XorgProblem> That is - not format it; not repartition?
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> so if i have to reinstall , i just install everything into / and mount /home partition
[03:45] <Termin8tor> Does anyone know a good site for resources for someone who knows absolutely nothing about programming to start learning?
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> XorgProblem, nope if you only have /
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> you got to mount /home in a different partition
[03:45] <cef> ok.. almost midday.. time for breakfast. *grin*
[03:45] <XorgProblem> Have different partition structure
[03:45] <kbrooks> Termin8tor: try learning python. its a great language
[03:46] <XorgProblem> ... and /home is in its own partition
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> you ?
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> then good
[03:46] <XorgProblem> Thing is, I remember wondering whether the prompt to keep the existing partition structure really meant what it said
[03:46] <Termin8tor> kbrooks, know any good resource sites for python by any chance? =)
[03:46] <XorgProblem> It was a confusing wording
[03:46] <kbrooks> Termin8tor: very easy to learn
[03:46] <trigger> one last question for the nignt :)
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> normally use custom partition ... create primary partitions ... mount one as / and mount another as /home
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> bingo
[03:47] <trigger> i have to versions of the linux kernel
[03:47] <kbrooks> Termin8tor: um maybe google could help you out... or maybe this
[03:47] <alyks> I'm getting a lot of problems when running apt-get update
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> trigger, uname -r
[03:47] <XorgProblem> Hm ... how big a / partition?
[03:47] <XorgProblem> Actually, n/m on that question
[03:47] <kbrooks> http://www.google.ca/search?q=thinkcspy&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial -- first result
[03:47] <alyks> I keep getting "Couldn't stat source package
[03:47] <alyks> "
[03:47] <kbrooks> http://www.google.ca/search?q=byte+of+python&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> XorgProblem, / xcan be about 10 gig and 30 gig for /home ... thats my system ... total 40 gig
[03:47] <XorgProblem> I want to stay with what I've set up; I'm scared to death of losing my data
[03:47] <kbrooks> first result
[03:47] <trigger> one is <IP_ADDRESS> and the other is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <trigger> can i stay with the old one since the new broke my bootsplash
[03:48] <Termin8tor> thanks kbrooks
[03:48] <Termin8tor> its appreciated =)
[03:48] <trigger> i commented out the new one
[03:48] <kbrooks> http://www.google.ca/search?q=diveintopython&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial (read this later on into your foray) -- first result
[03:49] <alyks> and it also says that some of the packages aren't in gzip format
[03:49] <XorgProblem> I really wish I could get X to run, even temporarily, before I did anything potentially destructive
[03:49] <trigger> is there a bit different between these two versions?
[03:49] <cef> alyks: paste your sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl so we can look at it
[03:49] <cevizoglu> when I download .mov files from http://beastieboys.com/video.php and then try to play them in amarok, beep, kaffeine, mplayer, vlc, etc. it doesn't fails to play the audio with error: could not load codec. what codec do I need to install? the video works, though
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> XorgProblem, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:50] <cevizoglu> er, it fails to play...
[03:50] <XorgProblem> Yep
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> if not give it a try
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> really ?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> i fixed my X with it
[03:50] <XorgProblem> It seems to run OK, and it warns me that I'm overwriting my existing .xinetrc file
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> i also broke my X when i upgraded
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:50] <XorgProblem> Hm ...
[03:50] <XorgProblem> What did you do, wickedpuppy, to fix it?
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> overwrite then
[03:51] <XorgProblem> Step by newbie step
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> i just went through the thing
[03:51] <surface> after upgrade to breezy
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> thats it
[03:51] <XorgProblem> Yes, I did that
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> and save
[03:51] <XorgProblem> Man.
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> did you let it overwrite ?
[03:51] <surface> it cause some problem
[03:51] <XorgProblem> I've done that, but all I get out of X is the crosshatch screen with the mouse pointer
[03:51] <theplateau> how can i enable the switch user function in the kde panel so i can easily launch a new gui?
[03:51] <XorgProblem> Yes, let it overwrite
[03:51] <surface> my firefox always hang
[03:51] <theplateau> sometimes its there sometimes it isn't i don't get it
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> XorgProblem, go through again choose slowly
[03:51] <el_toro> XorgProblem: could be a problem w/font paths or sthng like that
[03:51] <surface> it diff to access to internet
[03:52] <XorgProblem> OK ... will go through it again.
[03:52] <XorgProblem> Thanks, wickedpuppy.
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> when i was in slackware 5 or so i went through XFree86 10 times in one night ...
[03:52] <XorgProblem> el_toro - how troubleshoot font path issues?
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:52] <XorgProblem> lol
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> well i gotta go for me date :P good luck with ya X
[03:52] <XorgProblem> enjoy, wickedpuppy -  have a great evening
[03:53] <XorgProblem> thanks again
[03:53] <el_toro> XorgProblem: by taking a look at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log in nano or other text ed
[03:53] <XorgProblem> TY el_toro
[03:53] <XorgProblem> nano runs in term?
[03:53] <el_toro> XorgProblem: yep
[03:53] <XorgProblem> cool - thank you again
[03:53] <el_toro> np
[03:54] <rob_p> XorgProblem:  you can cat the logfile and pipe it through less as well...
[03:54] <Ramah> lol I started working on my lfs project lastnight and I managed to forget the user and root password lol
[03:54] <Licker> well, i just called my cable modems 1-800 # and they said they dont support via USB for Macs or Linux.  :/
[03:54] <cef> anyone know why mplayer in breezy has issues while playing wmv, but totem doesn't? video is all jerky in mplayer.. eg: pauses up to 1/2 second every second.
[03:55] <kbrooks> Licker: well
[03:55] <kbrooks> want to know something?
[03:55] <kbrooks> psst.
[03:55] <DShepherd> hey
[03:55] <DShepherd> what does apt-get purge actually do?
[03:55] <MrGardenHoseMan> Guys anyone know how to mount iso files?
[03:55] <kbrooks> a usb modem has a ethernet card in it
[03:55] <Licker> yea i know
[03:55] <dicrapio> has anyone tried to install knemo? i get an error saying there sopme files from knetworkconf installed (mostly icons) so knemo wont install
[03:56] <dicrapio> any thoughts?
[03:56] <dicrapio> sorry wrong window :)
[03:56] <cef> DShepherd: 'apt-get --purge remove packagename' completely removes the package, and all it's config files from the disk.
[03:56] <Licker> kbrook: i have *4* PCs. I have them all hooked into my router. BUT, for some reason the ports are all configured wrong etc. So I cant host off of it.  Thats why i was wanting to connect Via-USB  ;)
[03:57] <DShepherd> thanks cer
[03:57] <cef> DShepherd: also will usually remove any data the package has accumulated as well (eg: if it's a database).. USE WITH CAUTION
[03:57] <DShepherd> thanks cef
[03:57] <gnubie> hi guys. need some help with grub. i suddenly got a grub error 18 message after a bad shutdown
[03:58] <morphiushacker> I am behind a campus network which is firewalled. I was wondering if I set up a vpn server off campus at my home, if I would be able to tunnel out and connect to that network and foreward ports to my computer back behind the firewall, so that I could connect to various services. Does anyone know if this would work?
[03:59] <cef> morphiushacker: it can work, but your campus may not like you for it.
[03:59] <morphiushacker> that's ok
[03:59] <morphiushacker> I work for the computer department anyway. I just don't have access to those servers
[03:59] <cef> morphiushacker: I do similar stuff using ssh from work
[04:00] <morphiushacker> What programs would you reccomend for this?
[04:00] <cef> morphiushacker: using ssh's Dynamic Port forwarding (-D port#), and then treating the local port as a socks proxy.
[04:00] <rob_p> MrGardenHoseMan:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 yourfile.iso /wherever/
[04:00] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[04:00] <Zhukov_> Seveas, are you there
[04:00] <Zhukov_> need a quick word with you
[04:01] <cef> morphiushacker: so then you can either use socks-aware programs, or a socks wrapper script (like dante).
[04:01] <Zhukov_> very important
[04:01] <cevizoglu> is there a log file where kaffeine and the other video players store errors?
[04:02] <cef> morphiushacker: you can only do ipv4 tcp/udp over socks though... no icmp/igmp/raw/ipv6, etc.. but I find tcp/udp enough
[04:02] <morphiushacker> that's all I need anyway
[04:02] <morphiushacker> And it'll be encrypted so that pretty much covers what I will need.
[04:03] <Yetr2> not cool... glxgears isn't giving me a screen rate
[04:03] <Yetr2> fos
[04:03] <Yetr2> fps*
[04:03] <morphiushacker> Thanks cef, Ill go google that and get it all done. UBUNTU ROX!
[04:03] <cef> morphiushacker: I even use it at home, so I don't have to change my config. just fire up the ssh session, and away I go.
[04:03] <cef> morphiushacker: no probs
[04:03] <morphiushacker> sweet
[04:04] <cevizoglu> is there an app which displays logged errors, kind of like Console on Mac OS X?
[04:04] <cef> ok, really time for breakfast now
[04:04] <cef> later
[04:04] <misfit_toy> cevizoglu, "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" will show you live logged messages
[04:04] <gnubie> hi guys. need some help with grub. i suddenly got a grub error 18 message after a bad shutdown
[04:04] <Zhukov_> anyone has Seveas w32codecs package? Or his script for detecting windows partitions? Need them for an add-on cd!
[04:05] <rubem> hi there
[04:05] <rob_p> Yetr2:  Try, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[04:06] <rubem> can I hide the bars of the desktop?
[04:06] <misfit_toy> rob_p, isn't that so stupid?
[04:06] <cevizoglu> misfit_toy, thx
[04:06] <rob_p> misfit_toy:  Yeah!
[04:06] <chsguy55> guys what is a cool game to play on the net for free.. besides wesnoth?
[04:06] <chsguy55> anyone
[04:07] <hondje> bzflag
[04:07] <Pajj> Does anyone know where I can find out more about dual booting ubuntu/windows, preferebly on seperate hard drives?
[04:07] <cvt|kbob> test
[04:07] <rubem> how do I install the direct X on wine???
[04:07] <_jason> Pajj:  have you searched the wiki?
[04:07] <Yetr2> rob_p, tell me why all the other versions of glxgears i've used atleast gave me an fps rate?
[04:07] <misfit_toy> Pajj, http://ubuntuforums.org
[04:08] <cvt|kbob> i have live cd of knoppix but it won't run on ubuntu.  will you help me?
[04:08] <misfit_toy> cvt|kbob, that is an insane question
[04:08] <cvt|kbob> oh sorry
[04:08] <cvt|kbob> wrong channel
[04:08] <nalioth> Pajj: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:09] <cvt|kbob> new question: what command do i hit to get to the prompt where i can boot from a live cd?
[04:10] <kbrooks> Any *cool* applications that you all frequently use?
[04:10] <rob_p> Yetr2:  Probably because the developer wanted the userbase to be sure that glxgears is not an optimal tool for doing benchmarks... I'd assume :-)
[04:10] <wmat> i just fixed my 'default font 'fixed'' not found problem after upgrading to breezy
[04:11] <wmat> found the answer here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364589
[04:11] <Yetr2> not interested in benchmarks.. just wanted to see where I stood with the possibility of running some other 3d applications like screen savers and pretty xmms things
[04:12] <wmat> just edit you xorg.conf file fonts section to point back to the /usr/share/X11/fonts locations
[04:13] <rob_p> Yetr2:  Good.  Then now you know how to enable fps output for your purposes...
[04:13] <auk> does breeezy include xchat-gnome?
[04:14] <wmat> auk: it includes xchat. is xchat-gnome different?
[04:14] <auk> wmat: yes
[04:15] <auk> http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx/
[04:15] <nutate> hello, am I correct in the knowledge that ubuntu 5.10 will be out on the tenth? with kubuntu following in short order?
[04:16] <Yetr2> rob_p, you could have saved me the trouble and told me that the -option was not scarcasm...
[04:16] <Hobbsee> nutate: 13th, and they should be released together
[04:16] <nutate> Hobbsee: thanks
[04:16] <Hobbsee> nutate: there are daily cd's that you can try now, or just download the RC, which was the daily cd yesterday
[04:16] <wmat> auk: after upgrading, dpkg -l xchat shows xchat 2.4.4-0Ubuntu5
[04:17] <nutate> Hobbsee: it's a totally smooth upgrade path, right?
[04:17] <delaney> with the mirrormax backports gone.. what is a person supposed to do to get blackbox .70 .. or any other packages that arent on the new official repos?
[04:17] <kbrooks> nutate: technically rough
[04:17] <nutate> Hobbsee: is there beagled support (inotify, etc) built in?
[04:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell delaney about backports
[04:17] <Hobbsee> nutate: theoretically, yes, whether it works or not, the answer is sometimes
[04:17] <auk> wmat: well i would expect breezy to include both xchat and xchat-gnome
[04:17] <kbrooks> nutate: there is
[04:18] <auk> ooof backports
[04:18] <joe_> so how do i access my realplayter after i've extracted it
[04:18] <kbrooks> nutate: i tried beagle and it "just Works"(tm)
[04:18] <auk> !info xchat-gnome
[04:18] <Hobbsee> nutate: downloading an install cd and installing from there is often safer
[04:18] <rob_p> Yetr2:  I meant no sarcasm... actually, I simply googled it for you and that's what a couple of pages turned up.  Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended you.
[04:18] <nutate> Hobbsee: yeah, on this godforsaken fc4 box beagled was really hard to get going
[04:18] <auk> is ubotu still on hoary?
[04:18] <kbrooks> auk: xchat-gnome is reundant imo
[04:18] <kbrooks> !info xchat-gnome breezy
[04:18] <auk> kbrooks; then remove xchat
[04:18] <nutate> kbrooks: I'm glad to hear that
[04:18] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: (a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1329 kB, Installed size: 4092 kB
[04:18] <Hobbsee> nutate: i use kubuntu, so i dont use beagle at all, so i wouldnt know
[04:18] <delaney> thats wonderful and ive done that
[04:18] <kbrooks> auk: you misread
[04:18] <delaney> but before apt-get install blackbox would give me a .70 version
[04:19] <auk> !info xchat breezy
[04:19] <nutate> Hobbsee: beagle is pretty agnostic about that as a daemon
[04:19] <delaney> now im getting an obsolete .65 version
[04:19] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[04:19] <kbrooks> auk; you read it as 'xchat is reundant'
[04:19] <auk> hmm
[04:19] <kbrooks> redundant
[04:19] <auk> yes
[04:19] <auk> ...
[04:19] <nutate> Hobbsee: it's just the client is written in mono... there is a client for kde called kat
[04:19] <delaney> i found that repo on the forums.. and when i updated and tried.. and it didnt work
[04:19] <delaney> i thought someone here might have a solution
[04:19] <wmat> auk: my bad, you can apt-get install xchat-gnome
[04:19] <nutate> http://kat.mandriva.com/
[04:19] <Hobbsee> nutate: true, i knew that...but havent tried it
[04:20] <auk> kbrooks, what did you mean?
[04:20] <kbrooks> auk
[04:20] <kbrooks> er
[04:20] <nutate> Hobbsee: yeah, i am in this really sickened state... using windows, linux, and os x a lot has sickened me to the worst of all three
[04:20] <kbrooks> auk: xchat is ok. xchat-gnome is not, imo
[04:20] <nutate> (a lot meaning having to use them all every day)
[04:20] <Hobbsee> eek
[04:21] <auk> kbrooks; why?
[04:21] <auk> kbrooks, imho, then there should be no xchat; just xchat-gnome
[04:21] <nalioth> auk: use what you like
[04:21] <N6REJ> anyone know how well the new pc games will run under ubuntu?
[04:21] <wmat> all anyone needs is irssi anyway :)
[04:21] <N6REJ> thinking about giving my son ubuntu on his system :D
[04:21] <auk> because xchat-gnome fits in better with the ubuntu philosophy
[04:22] <Hobbsee> which game are you talking about?
[04:22] <kbrooks> auk: i'm not saying that xchat-gnome should be *installed by default* -- i depise a mix of them
[04:22] <N6REJ> Call of duty is his favorite
[04:22] <N6REJ> but I'm sure as time goes by he's going to want to play all of them.
[04:22] <auk> kbrooks: i know
[04:22] <Hobbsee> probably check in the gaming forums on ubuntuforums.com
[04:22] <Hobbsee> i'm guessing you'd need to run the ones wihtout linux ports under cedega
[04:22] <nutate> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2253 <-- comparison of beagle and kat (from a admittedly biased source, the author of Kat)
[04:22] <marco_> hi everybody !
[04:23] <marco_> do u know an IRC channel in french for ubuntu please ?
[04:23] <auk> nalioth: i have no problem with there being both xchat and xchat-gnome, i will use what i like
[04:23] <v3n0w> Hi people! I need help! my ps2 optical mouse dont work... What can i do????
[04:23] <kbrooks> !fr
[04:23] <ubotu> well, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:23] <marco_> yes kbrooks soory !lol
[04:23] <marco_> sorry
[04:23] <N6REJ> is cedega a paid program?
[04:23] <kbrooks> marco_: dont be
[04:24] <kbrooks> N6REJ: yes and no
[04:24] <Xenguy> N6REJ: yep
[04:24] <marco> why ?
[04:24] <marco> kbrooks,
[04:24] <kbrooks> N6REJ: there are packaged .debs u have to pay for
[04:24] <v3n0w> Whor can help me with my ps2 mouse?
[04:24] <N6REJ> *sigh*
[04:24] <kbrooks> N6REJ: but u can compile from source
[04:24] <kevogod> You can compile Cedega from CVS
[04:24] <kevogod> but it hardly ever works
[04:25] <kbrooks> N6REJ: use google to find out, i'm not about to link you to the area, and imply endorsement of cedega ;)
[04:25] <esac_> i downloaded bittornado, what it is called so i can download torrents ? i see btdownloadheadless but i'm not sure if that's it
[04:26] <Xenguy> but I'm not a desperate linux gamer either ;-)
[04:26] <keb> v3n0w did the lights come on the mouse when you boot?
[04:26] <nalioth> esac_: it's btdownloadcurses.py
[04:26] <N6REJ> kbrooks: ok, so let me ask you this, I know he's going to want to play 1942, cod, and this is his first system.  I'd LIKE to turn him onto linux, he uses a mac at school.  I could give him 98se.  I'd give'm XP but we lost our 3rd install disk.
[04:26] <esac_> nalioth: thanks
[04:26] <nutate> esac_: that is a very unGUI python client
[04:26] <v3n0w> keb, when i bot yes, but on the start of ubuntu the light turn off!!!
[04:26] <v3n0w> *boot
[04:27] <N6REJ> we have mine, but I don't know what that would do to my license
[04:27] <nalioth> esac_: unless you want gui goodness, then it's btdownloadgui.py
[04:27] <esac_> what's a good gui download client ? i dont like loading 109 MB of memory bloated java programs
[04:27] <something_else> Any of you own a Freecom - DVB-T USB card?
[04:27] <esac_> k
[04:27] <nalioth> esac_: use btdownloadcurses + gnu screen
[04:27] <nutate> I have a strange feeling the University of So. Cal. blocks bittorrent...
[04:27] <nutate> nalioth: that won't be confusing...
[04:27] <nalioth> nutate: confusing?
[04:28] <kbrooks> N6REJ: quetions up front pls
[04:28] <nutate> nalioth: well, I guess if esac_ has used screen before it's not
[04:28] <N6REJ> lol, sorry, what would you suggest I install on his system?
[04:28] <keb> v3n0w, does the mouse show up when you type "dmesg"
[04:28] <nalioth> i have walkthroughs on 'gnu screen'
[04:28] <v3n0w> keb, dmesg???? what is this? a command?
[04:29] <keb> yes
[04:29] <esac_> ive used screen before, not a big deal, but i can't find btdownload*.py anywhere
[04:29] <nutate> nalioth: it's one of the most useful pieces of software, period
[04:29] <nutate> esac_: my apologies for assuming your ignorance
[04:29] <kbrooks> nalioth: sounds like i reinvented the wheel in writing a extremely basic and stripped down howto for gnu screen listing a few basic commands
[04:30] <nalioth> kbrooks: everything has it's place. you can add my URLs to your howto
[04:30] <N6REJ> kbrooks: any suggestions?
[04:30] <v3n0w> keb, no, i dont see it
[04:30] <keb> hmm
[04:30] <esac_> nutate: no problem, but you can assume my ignorance in finding bittornado .. i did a find . -iname btdownload*.py from / and didn't find anything
[04:30] <kbrooks> nalioth: OK, I'll rewrite it and link to your urls...
[04:31] <v3n0w> keb, only the usb mouse works
[04:31] <keb> v3n0w does the mouse appear in the Device Manager under the System, Administration menu?
[04:31] <twysted> esac_ remove the .py from btdownload*  since the ubuntu package stripped the files of the .py extension
[04:31] <nalioth> esac_: "sudo updatedb && locate btdownloadcurses.py"
[04:32] <esac_> thanks
[04:32] <Jacko115> any good with boot sector problems and ntfs partions here?
[04:32] <v3n0w> keb, it apears ps2/usb... then i clik and see: bus type:usb
[04:32] <Jacko115> anyone good with boot sector problems and ntfs partions here?
[04:32] <nalioth> esac_: if you've apt-getted your bittornado, see the above comment
[04:32] <twysted> jacko115, just ask
[04:32] <keb> v3n0w i don't know
[04:33] <banning> hello
[04:33] <v3n0w> keb, grrrr man.... its the secund linux i have this problem....
[04:33] <banning> anyone played with dnsmasq?
[04:33] <Jacko115> I am currently using ubuntu linux and ran out of room on the linux drive so I resized my ntfs drive. This somehow stuffed up the whole booting into windows thing but I was still able to access my hard drive from linux. A friend of mine suggested it was the MBR which was at fault so I ran the fixmbr program on the windows xp disk and that did nothing. Then I tried the fixboot program and that unfortunately changed something (I'm guessi
[04:33] <nutate> esac_: the names changed to bittorrent- instead of bt-
[04:34] <Jacko115> partition as it thinks it is a fat16 partition. is there anyway to fix this?
[04:34] <v3n0w> keb, in winxp the mouse only word well, after the win install a driver....
[04:34] <nalioth> Jacko115: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:35] <keb> i dont know how the drivers work.  just wanted to confirm the mouse hardware is working and visible to the OS
[04:36] <banning> i am trying to configure default gateway option on dnsmaq.conf , but i cant remember what option it is
[04:36] <banning> does anyone know which dhcp-option it is?
[04:36] <v3n0w> keb, ok thanks....
[04:36] <keb> sorry v3n0w :/
[04:37] <N6REJ> kbrooks: can you tell me wether I would find the sources for cedega on transgamings site or on freshmeat?
[04:37] <Jedrick> can i open .opg file in oppen office to microsoft word?
[04:37] <v3n0w> anyone can HELP ME with a ps2 optical mouse that dont work????
[04:37] <twysted> N6REJ> cedega is not open source
[04:37] <v3n0w> keb, thanks.. i learn a command ;)
[04:37] <keb> cool
[04:37] <kbrooks|bed> twysted: it is
[04:37] <nalioth> N6REJ: all of the above
[04:37] <kbrooks|bed> twysted: you just dont get it
[04:37] <nutate> v3n0w: if you /msg me the model name perhaps that would help
[04:37] <nalioth> N6REJ: you want cedega-cvs
[04:37] <twysted> kbrooks apparently i dont, ass
[04:37] <Jedrick> can i open .opg file in oppen office to microsoft word?
[04:37] <N6REJ> ok.  Looks like it supports all of the games he wants to play.
[04:38] <N6REJ> nalioth: ty!
[04:38] <v3n0w> nutate, is a generic mouse... dont have model or mark...
[04:38] <keb> microsoft word doesnt read open office files. you have to save as rtf
[04:38] <keb> or as .doc
[04:38] <Jacko115> when I try and mount my ntfs partion it comes up with
[04:38] <Jedrick> ok
[04:38] <Jedrick> thnx man
[04:38] <Jacko115> [4298733.289000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.