[03:19] <helpneeded> installs ok reboots  then get message cannot load operating system
[03:19] <Warbo> Just a general question, has anyone had any bad experiences with Moho (animation program) and Ubuntu? The demo seems fine
[03:20] <bimberi> Rhine: or there's the "du" command - 'du -hs *' will show the usage of files and directories in the current directory
[03:20] <slackern> hajuu: thinking, how are you registered to the bots i mean what are they looking for? hajuu@host ?
[03:20] <hajuu> they are looking for lolatyou2@host
[03:21] <hajuu> but I run my irc as lolatyou2
[03:21] <hajuu> lol
[03:21] <helpneeded> dont know much about  linux ...can anyone help ?
[03:21] <slackern> ahh, i see, hmm maybe need to adjust some stuff in oidentd since it uses your username hajuu
[03:22] <Warbo> helpneeded: What gives you that messag? The BIOS (PC's bootup), GRUB (linux bootloader) or something else?
[03:22] <helpneeded> unsure ..
[03:22] <helpneeded> thast all it says
[03:23] <xero> I must go for the evening everyone, thank you for all of your help =]
[03:23] <tritium> good night, xero
[03:23] <helpneeded> pc is fine before hand
[03:23] <helpneeded> was a clean install
[03:24] <helpneeded> dapper flight 7 i believe
[03:24] <Warbo> helpneeded: I have found that many BIOSs will give a message like "Operating System Not Found" if there is no disk in the machine (or it's disk has failed). If so then this is not a Linux problem, it is a drive problem. Have you ever had problems with your hard disk (also check there is no floppy in the drive)
[03:24] <apathy> ok tritium, rebooting to see if it worked
[03:24] <slackern> hajuu: hmm do a 'man oidentd.conf' and check at the bottom there looks like you need to make a ~/.oident.conf file for how you should be identified.
[03:24] <tritium> apathy: ok
[03:24] <apathy> i did some googling for some ideas...
[03:24] <hajuu> yeah just reading it now
[03:24] <helpneeded> no no no to alll new disk less than a month old .... xp was running on it
[03:25] <slackern> hajuu: I know i did it before, but it was probably 4-5 years ago :)
[03:25] <Warbo> helpneeded: Try enering the BIOS setup and see if it finds your Hard drive
[03:25] <helpneeded> took it off and done a fresh clean install ...  mno floppy on machine
[03:25] <viator> whats the name of the gtk package i get this error With GTK+ required for FvwmGtk?     no: Failed to detect GTK
[03:25] <Warbo> entering, sorry. Usually F2, Del or something
[03:25] <helpneeded> hold
[03:26] <Warbo> helpneeded: If your disk is detected then you probably have no bootloader on it (you need to install GRUB to it's MBR)
[03:27] <codecaine> anybody know how I can dual boot ubuntu I have windows installed and want to partition it with ubuntu but I have raid on my hds
[03:27] <hajuu> slackern: hm cant quite see where I can specify another username to identify me as
[03:28] <hajuu> conf file doesnt.. seem to be *for* that unless I want to send my own ident reply.. but then I have to learn to write an ident reply? wtf
[03:28] <slackern> hajuu: i'll paste it just a sec
[03:28] <helpneeded> ah ok .... checked  bios  disks is detected ... changed boot order  from d:c to c:d ... still same message
[03:29] <Warbo> helpneeded: You may need to install GRUB to the disk's master boot record (mbr). You can do this from a livecd
[03:29] <helpneeded> ah ok ... can you give me advice on that as dont know much about linux commands
[03:29] <ricky_> Hello
[03:29] <Warbo> helpneeded: Do you know it's device name? (like /dev/hda or something) If so then "grub-install /dev/hda" will install it
[03:30] <gagamel> I installed ies4linux and iexplore,  but other application based on windows Xp. How do i install other application based on windows.
[03:30] <ricky_> can anyone tell me how to get my display settings above 640X480
[03:30] <hyphenated> !resolution
[03:30] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:30] <helpneeded> default settings were chosen  dapper flight 7  through gui
[03:30] <Warbo> gagamel: Use "wine setup.exe" where setup.exe is the program's windows installer
[03:31] <slackern> hajuu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14198 try that one
[03:31] <slackern> hajuu: maybe you need to do 'sudo /etc/init.d/oidentd restart' afterwards too
[03:32] <Warbo> helpneeded: Is your disk an internal IDE one (usually it is) in which case it is /dev/hda
[03:32] <gagamel> Warbo: thanks. I Know...but..ies4linux make other wine setting at .ies4linux. so wine SETUP.exe dis not work...
[03:33] <Warbo> gagamel: I don't know about ies4linux, but you can configure WINE with "wineconfig" or "winecof" or something like that. Installers work fine for me if they are installed to $HOME/.wine
[03:33] <hajuu> ok probably have to restart irc too
[03:34] <slackern> hajuu: still hajuu@host :)
[03:34] <awolf> Hi.  I'm having issues with nvidia drivers.  When I change to the nvidia driver, as compared to nv, the screen goes black and no log file is made, but my computer is crashed.
[03:34] <awolf> I've found similar problems on the ubuntu forums, but there are no answers as to what causes it.
[03:35] <hajuu> yep
[03:35] <hajuu> wtf
[03:35] <hajuu> oh but!
[03:35] <hajuu> theres no ~ now
[03:35] <VR_> hey all, i see that shipit is closed
[03:35] <hajuu> at least
[03:35] <hajuu> so the ident is working
[03:35] <VR_> is that a good thing?
[03:35] <tritium> !enter
[03:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:35] <hajuu> lol
[03:35] <Warbo> awolf: Have you tried both methods of installing (packages and NVidia binary)?
[03:36] <awolf> yes.
[03:36] <bimberi> VR_: gearing up for dapper i'd say
[03:36] <apathy> ok, that didnt work man
[03:36] <helpneeded> yes to the internal disk ?
[03:36] <Xbox_guru> hey, is the bittornado different then the default bittorrent
[03:36] <hajuu> Xbox_guru: yep
[03:37] <Samuli^> Xbox_guru, You'd be better off with a newer version of bittorrent from bittorrent's site than either of those.
[03:37] <apathy> so, I tried editing the system>preferences>screen resolution and that only had options for my main monitor
[03:37] <Xbox_guru> can I go into bittornado's settings and change the port and stuff
[03:37] <Warbo> helpneeded: OK then. If you boot into a livecd (Ubuntu livecd should do) and run the command "grub-install /dev/hda" it should put the GRUB bootloader onto your disk (we can sort out it's configuration once it is installed)
[03:37] <Samuli^> bittorrent 4.4.0 is sweet.
[03:37] <gagamel> Warbo: this is error msg after "winecfg"
[03:37] <gagamel> Warbo: -> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[03:37] <helpneeded> coll ... hold  livecds  just loading
[03:37] <slackern> Xbox_guru: Personally i prefer bittornado before the official ones, for me it's more responsive or how i should put it.
[03:37] <helpneeded> cool
[03:38] <Samuli^> slackern, even the newer ones from bittorrent's site?
[03:38] <slackern> Xbox_guru: and it has more options like superseeding and such
[03:38] <cva> My sound card stopped working today. I was listen to some music, and when an IM message notification started it died. More info here http://pastebin.com/723851 but basically everything looks good. the device is detected and works fine in another system, but will not make a sound anymore.
[03:38] <viator> !gtk
[03:38] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, viator
[03:39] <cva> the system had been running for several weeks without issue and nothing has changed on it.
[03:39] <slackern> Samuli^: i downloaded the latest one earlier today too but i ditched it after trying it a while, it's better than the one than comes with ubuntu but i still prefer bittornado
[03:39] <helpneeded> command run from consold window ?
[03:39] <cva> if I use the onboard audio it works fine, but is too limiting
[03:39] <Samuli^> slackern, I've always found bittornado.. messy?
[03:39] <emptyshell> does anyone here use aaMule on ubuntu?
[03:39] <Warbo> gagamel: There should be a .wine folder in your home and in there I have a folder called drive_c and I have dosdevices which contains links to various "drives" called c, d, a and stuff
[03:39] <crimsun> cva: I need the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[03:39] <ba> Samuli^, uTorrent
[03:39] <viator> whats the gtk+ package called and the dev package?
[03:39] <viator> in the repos
[03:39] <Samuli^> ba, that's a great one.
[03:39] <Hajuu2> uhm
[03:40] <slackern> Samuli^: hehe well it's no beauty to look at but hey :p
[03:40] <Samuli^> but I don't feel like running wine.
[03:40] <Warbo> helpneeded: You can run the command from any terminal (console or gnome-terminal)
[03:40] <ba> uTorrent is the best one i have used so far
[03:40] <ba> and it runs so smooth
[03:40] <Hajuu2> slackern,  [Hajuu2]  (i=lolatyou@dip-220-235-56-254.wa.westnet.com.au): lolatyou2
[03:40] <Hajuu2> wtf
[03:40] <Hajuu2> i=?
[03:40] <Samuli^> ba, you're using it through wine, right?
[03:40] <helpneeded> cool
[03:40] <ba> Samuli^, no i run windows alot of the time, because of my laptop
[03:40] <slackern> hajuu: heh evil things ;)
[03:40] <cva> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/723855
[03:41] <Samuli^> ba, ooo-kay.
[03:41] <ba> Samuli^, although im sure it would run fine in wine
[03:41] <Rhine> Is there an equalizer in Ubuntu?
[03:41] <Hajuu2> Ok so slackern im running xchat as user lolatyou2.. but im only<EMAIL_ADDRESS>wtf
[03:41] <Samuli^> Rhine, don't use equalizers, they're evil things :/
[03:41] <Warbo> Rhine: Not system wide, but maybe JACK can do it?
[03:41] <gagamel> Warbo: thanks. Ies4linux make default configure(ie. programm folder) for iexplore. so other setup is not work.....
[03:41] <crimsun> cva: amixer set 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[03:42] <apathy> tritium, you there?
[03:42] <Rhine> Er i wondering becuase i think something screwed up my speakers becuase it sounds likle crap all of the sudden
[03:42] <Warbo> gagamel: Maybe stick your stuff in the same place as IE instead of .wine?
[03:42] <slackern> Hajuu2: heh i have no idea whats happening, maybe something preventing identd to have a number in it.
[03:42] <Rhine> earlier i was listening and suddenly it went really loud
[03:42] <Warbo> Rhino: If PCM is too high it can do that
[03:42] <Rhine> >.< i think i might have blown out
[03:42] <Toma-> Hajuu2: pretty sure theres an 8 letter limit on idents
[03:42] <Hajuu2> uhm
[03:43] <cva> crimsun: thank you very much. I've googled and gone through the wiki all day to no avail
[03:43] <Hajuu2> well I HAD lolatyou2 on mirc
[03:43] <Toma-> was it freenode?
[03:43] <Hajuu2> no.
[03:43] <apathy> anyone familiar with xorg.conf?
[03:43] <Samuli^> Rhine, you've propably blown the elements then.
[03:43] <Rhine> Yeah i think it was PCM :/
[03:43] <slackern> different rules on servers then perhaps
[03:43] <Rhine> it sounds fine now
[03:43] <Rhine> Yep
[03:43] <Rhine> all fixed thanks
[03:43] <Warbo> Rhine: Double click your volume control applet and turn down PCM to around 3/4 and increase with your speaker's volume after that
[03:43] <Warbo> np
[03:43] <Hajuu2> oh yeah its ok on undernet
[03:43] <crimsun> cva: np
[03:44] <Rhine> Scared me there these are nice speaks :O
[03:44] <apathy> im guessing thats a no haha
[03:44] <slackern> hajuu: you saw that you can set the ident for which server you connect too
[03:44] <Hajuu2> but.. the bots still dont recognise me.
[03:44] <Hajuu2> awsome.
[03:44] <Toma-> Hajuu2: welcome to the wonderful forld of inconsistencies :)
[03:44] <Samuli^> well, not really.
[03:44] <Warbo> Rhine: I dump my audio through my HiFi so I can instantly shut it off if I need to
[03:44] <hajuu> bah
[03:44] <apathy> saymy name for a special treat
[03:45] <Samuli^> warbo, I don't in fear I migh break them.
[03:45] <Rhine> I lost 15gbs of music recently on my windows drive and im stuck with the 7 cds i actuall own till i can bring back the files somehow
[03:45] <apathy> *is invisable*
[03:45] <Samuli^> rhine, what do you mean by lost?
[03:46] <Rhine> The drive crashed >.<
[03:46] <slackern> hajuu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14199 check that one out, maybe you can change some there.
[03:46] <apathy> ok, joining another channel
[03:46] <Samuli^> agh :/
[03:46] <Warbo> Samuli^: Well, I fear the most because of my home-made cable to connect the PC output to the HiFi auxillary (however you spell it)
[03:46] <Rhine> So im taking the oppurtunity to rip everything in to FLAC
[03:46] <Samuli^> warbo, auxiliary :)
[03:47] <Warbo> Anyway, I better go cos it's late (early?) bye. Someone may need to help helpneeded to install GRUB to hda
[03:51] <jonah__> dli, have you gone?
[03:51] <dli> jonah__, too late for you, you can get it later
[03:52] <jonah__> dli, what do you mean? i was just thanking you again - just joking how tired i'll be tomorrow i didn't mean i'd had enough
[03:53] <dli> jonah__, okay
[03:53] <apathy> ok, anyone there?
[03:53] <jonah__> dli, i'll do an all-nighter if we can get it working!! i'd hate to have just wasted time and be tired for nothing
[03:54] <apathy> ok, anyone feel like actually acknowledging me now?
[03:55] <apathy> do section titles have to be unique?
[03:55] <apathy> nvm
[03:55] <apathy> tired of this crap
[03:56] <ricky_> ok how do i edit my xorg.conf file
[03:56] <ricky_> i can open it in text editor but cant make any change to it
[03:56] <apathy> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:56] <nnn0> change it somehow :D
[03:56] <nnn0> k
[03:56] <nnn0> hehe
[03:57] <ricky_> k will try that
[03:57] <kepht> what are section titles?
[03:57] <apathy> lol
[03:57] <apathy> im going to shoot myself
[03:57] <apathy> in the toe so it hurts really bad before I die
[03:57] <wims> lol
[03:57] <GTroy_> hey guys, do games on linux require less resources than their windows counterparts?
[03:58] <apathy> ...
[03:58] <Samuli^> no.
[03:58] <apathy> same resources
[03:58] <apathy> the OS takes less resources tho
[03:58] <aziz_> hey guys any one here from pakistan?
[03:58] <Samuli^> tux-racer is pretty light.
[03:58] <GTroy_> hmm
[03:58] <GTroy_> say quake 4
[03:58] <GTroy_> it looks like the minimum reqs. are less than in windows
[03:58] <Samuli^> apathy, you think it does?
[03:59] <GTroy_> Samuli^
[03:59] <apathy> ?
[03:59] <nnn0> of course, on windows it's not just the game which uses resources :DDD
[03:59] <Samuli^> my dapper/gnome is slower than windows anyways.
[03:59] <apathy> winxp is a system hog
[03:59] <GTroy_> yes linux takes way less resources than windows
[03:59] <helpneeded> can someone help with thre boot problem
[03:59] <apokryphos> !helpme
[03:59] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[03:59] <mjb> heya,  Can anyone tell me whats the usual cause for load averages to climb exponentially?
[03:59] <helpneeded> have tried advice give  ...
[03:59] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and FF <IP_ADDRESS> as per the Ubuntu wiki and now links I click on in Gaim IMs won't open in FF. Any suggestions?
[04:00] <helpneeded> but get following message ...
[04:00] <GTroy_> how much difference would there be between a linux game box, and a windows game box?
[04:00] <GTroy_> with same hardware?
[04:00] <GTroy_> with say dapper?
[04:00] <Samuli^> GTroy_, a lot less games for linux :)
[04:00] <alan`> yeah
[04:00] <apathy> but wine is good i hear
[04:00] <GTroy_> I haven't had windows in over a year
[04:00] <helpneeded> could not find device for /boot : not found or not a block device
[04:01] <GTroy_> wine gets junky with a little age
[04:01] <Samuli^> GTroy_, but I wouldn't be expecting any performance boot and perhaps a lot of troubles.
[04:01] <apathy> bummer
[04:01] <casper> hi
[04:01] <GTroy_> samuli^ for going with linux games?
[04:01] <slackern> GTroy_: If you ask me i only play wow and in windows it runs smooth and in linux tried both cedega and wine built from source it's usually around 15-20 fps for me while in windows 40-80
[04:01] <casper> how ca i pm?
[04:02] <Samuli^> GTroy, yeah. 3d-drivers for linux aren't exactly trouble-free
[04:02] <GTroy_> slackern: you've answered my question that I didn't know how to ask
[04:02] <nnn0> casper, use /query
[04:02] <slackern> GTroy_: oh great :P
[04:02] <GTroy_> slackern: have you run native quake 4?
[04:02] <wims> are there som apt-get command for getting firefox v1.5 ?
[04:02] <themaan> hello
[04:02] <GTroy_> !firefox1.5
[04:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:03] <slackern> GTroy_: No i haven't got that game, im sorry, but quake 3 ran fine i remember when i played it in linux a few years ago
[04:03] <GTroy_> hmmm
[04:03] <themaan> I got a powerbook 1400cs, really old, and I was wondering if linux would work on it
[04:03] <helpneeded> can someone help with a boot problem ...
[04:03] <themaan> any type
[04:03] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and FF <IP_ADDRESS> as per the Ubuntu wiki and now links I click on in Gaim IMs won't open in FF. Any suggestions?
[04:03] <GTroy_> if I can avoid windows at all costs
[04:03] <themaan> and how to get floppies for it
[04:03] <watson540> slackern: although, have you ever tied 'renicing' your cedega processes?? it does wonders for cedega and CS on my box :)
[04:03] <helpneeded> tried live cd install ...
[04:03] <themaan> it has 117 mghz
[04:03] <themaan> and 16 mb of ram
[04:03] <apathy> ill be back later
[04:03] <watson540> goes from choppy to awesome and i run 1024.768 opengl
[04:03] <Samuli^> themaan, I'm sure there's linuxes that work with it.
[04:03] <themaan> ubuntu?
[04:03] <GTroy_> watson540: have you used many native linux games?
[04:03] <Samuli^> themaan, perhaps damn small linux?
[04:03] <themaan> ;'
[04:03] <helpneeded> comp reboots but gett error message cannot lod operating system
[04:04] <themaan> its fine on memory
[04:04] <slackern> watson540: I've tried most i could but i have a ATi card and it's not exactly good in linux, i bet with a newer nvidia it would work much better.
[04:04] <themaan> got a gb of that
[04:04] <Samuli^> Themaan, nope, not ubuntu.
[04:04] <watson540> GTroy_: no , sorry i played tux racer a few times thats it..installed some loki games like UT2k and stuff but its been a whiule
[04:04] <lufi> anyone notice dapper is buggy as hell right now?
[04:04] <GTroy_> slackern: I've used secondlife in linux under nvidia card, worked fine
[04:04] <themaan> so there are linuix that work on macs
[04:04] <watson540> i just know if our wine/cedega games are chopppy you can renice them to make them better
[04:04] <Samuli^> lufi, nope.
[04:04] <themaan> any recomendations
[04:04] <GTroy_> watson540: ok thanks
[04:04] <themaan> I could of done a google search
[04:04] <slackern> lufi: more stable than ever for me :)
[04:04] <lufi> it takes about five minutes to log into gnome
[04:04] <Samuli^> themaan, ubuntu
[04:04] <themaan> but I reallly came here for an opinion
[04:05] <themaan> will it work
[04:05] <themaan> or fuck it up
[04:05] <Samuli^> yeah.
[04:05] <lufi> totem is not playing dvds properly
[04:05] <Samuli^> work.
[04:05] <GTroy_> themaan: I wouldn't try it
[04:05] <lufi> cupsys doesn't install without errors
[04:05] <watson540> slackern: well i  have a ati radeon 9800 with 128mb and ive yet to see a game i cant play :)
[04:05] <themaan> but I want to
[04:05] <casper> what fcuk means?
[04:05] <watson540> just takes a lot oof forum diving :)
[04:05] <themaan> what do you think the minimum ram for linux?
[04:05] <GTroy_> !fcuk
[04:05] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy_
[04:05] <GTroy_> hehe
[04:05] <slackern> watson540: oh i have 9800pro 128mb too but flashed to an XT since i have a r360 gpu on it :)
[04:05] <Samuli^> themaan, just take the one with ppc.
[04:05] <GTroy_> !google fcuk
[04:05] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GTroy_
[04:05] <casper> i had fcuk on my t-shirt what it meanz?
[04:06] <themaan> ppc?
[04:06] <watson540> hrm, i would be afrraid to flash my video card
[04:06] <lufi> I'm thinking now I should have bought a mac when I went through the last upgrade cycle
[04:06] <GTroy_> themaan: I think you need a little more speed and memory
[04:06] <helpneeded> any one ??????????????????????
[04:06] <GTroy_> but you could try it
[04:06] <themaan> 117 mghz isnt that good
[04:06] <slackern> watson540: i've flashed it back and forth so many times now, i even made a bootable usbstick with freedos and batfiles to change bioses :)
[04:06] <Samuli^> themaan, powerpc, that's the processor mac's are using.. up until now.
[04:06] <themaan> I have had worse computer
[04:06] <themaan> s
[04:06] <GTroy_> I know you can run 486 with linux
[04:06] <Elazar> I've installed Gaim 2.0.0b3 and FF <IP_ADDRESS> as per the Ubuntu wiki and now links I click on in Gaim IMs won't open in FF. Any suggestions?
[04:06] <themaan> oh
[04:06] <themaan> that thing
[04:06] <themaan> well intel is better
[04:07] <themaan> but linux dont work with ppc?
[04:07] <GTroy_> Elazaar: use right click and copy the links to your browser
[04:07] <Samuli^> themaan, works all right.
[04:07] <mjb> hi
[04:07] <Samuli^> I have few friends who use linux on their macs.
[04:07] <themaan> then why wont boot camp workon ppc
[04:07] <slackern> ubuntu has a ppc release doesn't it?
[04:07] <casper> i had fcuk on my t-shirt what it meanz?
[04:07] <GTroy_> slacker: yes
[04:07] <Samuli^> slackern, yes.
[04:07] <themaan> well this is a really old computer
[04:07] <GTroy_> !google
[04:07] <ubotu> I heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[04:07] <lufi> why does gstreamer work, then not work, then work again . .
[04:07] <mjb> Somethings causing my load average to boil over...
[04:07] <GTroy_> what's the google command people?
[04:08] <themaan> so linux could work
[04:08] <Samuli^> is there on?
[04:08] <mjb> Whats the best way to diagnose?
[04:08] <themaan> jsut would take alot of memory
[04:08] <themaan> and stuff
[04:08] <Elazar> GTroy_: Just wanted to see if there wasn't a way to fix whatever broke. :P
[04:08] <themaan> can I seperate the disk onto flopies
[04:08] <Samuli^> themaan, damn small linux is around 40mb
[04:08] <Elazar> GTroy_: I know about the right-click feature, it's just a pain.
[04:08] <derekS> is there a way to play an mp3 via commandline?
[04:08] <Samuli^> there's a lot of different linux-distros around.
[04:08] <themaan> what about swap memory?
[04:08] <slackern> mjb: open a terminal and type 'top' in it and see what is using all the cpu. it will sort processes depending on how much cpu they use.
[04:08] <Samuli^> smallest of them could fit into a single floppy.
[04:08] <helpneeded> can someone help with this boot problem ???????????????????????????
[04:08] <themaan> its got 12 mb of memory
[04:09] <rootaccess> I am getting an error while trying to compile airsnort... checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found
[04:09] <GTroy_> Elazaar, sorry I never bothered to fix that problem
[04:09] <themaan> on the hting
[04:09] <GTroy_> so I don't know
[04:09] <themaan> my friend said something about..
[04:09] <themaan> 1 sec
[04:09] <GTroy_> helpneeded: what's the problem?
[04:09] <rootaccess> i dont see gtk+ in synaptico
[04:09] <rootaccess> -o
[04:10] <GTroy_> helpneeded: you just need to ask
[04:10] <themaan> mk linux
[04:10] <themaan> http://www.mklinux.org/
[04:10] <mjb> yep... unfortunately it usually freezes the system... Is there anything useful in the messages logs?
[04:10] <helpneeded> sorry ?????? iv asked 3-4 times said what problem was ...
[04:10] <blank_> how do i make gdm my default manager again, I accidentally cahnged it to kdm
[04:10] <themaan> look workable?
[04:10] <GTroy_> rootaccess: have you set your reopositories right?
[04:10] <pschulz01> What is the best way to play an arbitary sound file from the command line under ubuntu?
[04:10] <rootaccess> yea...
[04:11] <blank_> my manager is kdm, how do i change it back to gdm
[04:11] <GTroy_> helpneeded, sorry I came to ask a question too
[04:11] <Kyral> blank_: you can tell the difference?
[04:11] <rootaccess> i dont see airsnort in the repository list
[04:11] <mjb> the cpu usage is low it's just the load average that takes off..
[04:11] <helpneeded> lol
[04:11] <tritium> !info airsnort
[04:11] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.7e-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[04:11] <blank_> Kyral, well, at the beginning, login screen, it looks different...
[04:11] <rootaccess> so i looked for gtk+ -- found lots of different gtk stuff but no gtk+
[04:11] <Kyral> blank_: its called a theme :P
[04:11] <tritium> rootaccess: you need to setup universe repo
[04:11] <Samuli^> pschulz01, aplay?
[04:11] <blank_> Kyral, Even so, how do you change it.
[04:12] <tritium> rootaccess: aircrack is much improved over airsnort
[04:12] <pschulz01> Samuli^: I'll have a look, thanks..
[04:12] <blank_> Kyral, don't know?
[04:12] <GTroy_> rootacces, I've noticed sometimes packages come packaged with other apps
[04:12] <C|int> hey, can anyone help me figure this out,
[04:12] <Kyral> run sudo apt-get reconfigure gdm
[04:12] <Kyral> I think
[04:12] <C|int> o install, extract the tarball to the Ubuntu Linux host in a temporary directory, and run ./runme.pl as sudo or root.
[04:12] <C|int> -failure to follow step 1 will result in an unsuccessful vmware-config.pl (complaints of missing vmmon kernel modules and the inability to find "make")
[04:12] <blank_> Kyral, invalid operation: reconfigure
[04:12] <Kyral> configure :P
[04:13] <wims> !firefox
[04:13] <C|int> I do that, and I get that bs
[04:13] <wims> !firefox1.5
[04:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:13] <lufi> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:13] <C|int> I been in ubuntu-offtopic all day, and look like people sleeping
[04:13] <Kyral> yah thats it
[04:13] <Kyral> man my Apt skills are gone
[04:13] <rootaccess> aircrack... IS DOWNLOADING THANKS FOR THE HEAD UP :)
[04:13] <GTroy_> apt rules!!!
[04:13] <helpneeded> ok can someone help me get this o/s to boot ?????
[04:13] <slackern> mjb: not quite sure only time i had problems with high loadavg was when i had massive I/O activity on a ftp server i helped to administer
[04:13] <rootaccess> srtyy bout caps...
[04:13] <Kyral> Pacman :P
[04:13] <tritium> rootaccess: now don't do anything bad with that
[04:14] <lufi> anyone else get a brown screen for about 5 minutes while booting into gnome?
[04:14] <C|int> can anyone help with vmware intall, I got all the information, and I am trying do an update, before I install vmware so it will work, and nothing,
[04:14] <mjb> this is a desktop... the big apps are eclipse, firefox and rhytmbox
[04:14] <GTroy_> luft, no
[04:14] <lufi> I'm running a dual core em64t system
[04:14] <AnarkiDotNET> headcount: people seeding ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso torrent? :)
[04:14] <lufi> it's super annoying
[04:15] <GTroy_> AnarkiDoNET, why would you not be torrenting dapper beta2?
[04:15] <lufi> what's up with the dvd playback in vlc
[04:15] <lufi> it seems broken as well
[04:15] <GTroy_> luft, switch to gmplayer
[04:15] <lufi> everything is brok!!!!??$#$
[04:15] <lufi> gmplayer works but doesn't show subtitles properly
[04:15] <AnarkiDotNET> cause this is the one on the download page, and i'd rather not use a beta
[04:16] <GTroy_> arnarkinotnet, ok
[04:16] <lufi> I like linux, but this is testing our relationship
[04:17] <AnarkiDotNET> i'm converting from windows server 2003 enterprise -> ubuntu (ubuntu was reccomended by folks in #apache) and...how difficult is it going to be to copy my stuff from my other comp, with the files and stuff i had on my windows server?
[04:17] <C|int> anybody,, knows what this means, get a look of it, Unable to open the installer database /etc/vmware/locations in read-mode.
[04:17] <C|int> Execution aborted.
[04:17] <C|int> :-(
[04:17] <lufi> AnarkiDotNET, use scp
[04:17] <lufi> download a prog called putty
[04:17] <lufi> for windows
[04:18] <lufi> and do a scp from the command line
[04:18] <helpneeded> am does anyone answer ? here
[04:18] <AnarkiDotNET> er..k
[04:18] <lufi> helpneeded, what help do you need
[04:18] <nnn0> :)
[04:18] <helpneeded> jesus ... iv asked 4-5 times now
[04:18] <AnarkiDotNET> so ubuntu cant access the network shares windows has?
[04:18] <helpneeded> said waht it was#
[04:19] <helpneeded> waited about 10-15 mins
[04:19] <lufi> AnarkiDotNET, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:19] <lufi> AnarkiDotNET, sure it can use smb
[04:19] <wy> anyone with automake experience here? I have some guestions
[04:19] <mjb> thanks for answering.. .I'll do a bit more research ... I need to know more about tracing  kernel activity...
[04:19] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: you compiled your own kernel ?
[04:19] <lufi> but doing a scp is a lot more robust, I find
[04:19] <nnn0> donno - i use mepis, when i got boot problems i just boot from the cd and reinstall grub :)
[04:20] <helpneeded> nope  live cd install from dapper  flight 7
[04:20] <nnn0> i'm on simplymepis 6.0b3
[04:20] <tritium> helpneeded: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[04:20] <helpneeded> installs perfect  no erros but when reboot ... get message cannot  lod operating system ...
[04:21] <bimberi> helpneeded: could be a bad disk or grub didn't install properly ...
[04:21] <nnn0> helpneeded, do use use scsi or something ?
[04:21] <bimberi> ubotu tell helpneeded about grub
[04:21] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: do you know where you installed grub to ?
[04:21] <helpneeded> nope standard everthing ...
[04:21] <helpneeded> where ever the default install location is ...
[04:22] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: maybe you could run grub-install from the livecd
[04:22] <helpneeded> through the dapper installer
[04:22] <helpneeded> ok  i tried that ...  used  ./... grub-install  /dev/hda1
[04:22] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: that didn't work ?
[04:23] <helpneeded> nope  ... so tried sudo  get error message
[04:23] <helpneeded> same in both cases ...
[04:23] <LinuxJones> :(
[04:23] <LinuxJones> Is windows on that comp ?
[04:23] <helpneeded> could not find device for /boot: not found  or not a block device ...
[04:24] <helpneeded> nope its a clean install
[04:24] <helpneeded> gparted gives info ...
[04:24] <LinuxJones> mmm, did you create a seperate /boot partition ?
[04:24] <helpneeded> nope default settings
[04:25] <helpneeded> used all of disk
[04:25] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: I always create a 100 meg /boot partition on /dev/hda1
[04:25] <helpneeded> gave me 72  3 gb swap in extended
[04:25] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: it should still work with 1 partition tho, probably easiest to re-install and use ext3 partition types.
[04:25] <ighost> does anyone know if the bug where ubuntu eats the windows partition on certain is still around in breezy?
[04:26] <helpneeded> ythats the default settings
[04:26] <ighost> *certain configurations
[04:26] <helpneeded> so what am i missing
[04:26] <helpneeded> grunb loader ?
[04:26] <helpneeded> grub loader
[04:26] <bimberi> ighost: there was an issue with the live installer which has been fixed since Beta 2
[04:27] <LinuxJones> helpneeded: there might be some issues with the livecd installer you should join #ubuntu+1 and ask in there, that's the official Dapper support channel....Good Luck
[04:27] <ighost> bimberi: really? last time i tried ubuntu was warty (not livecd)
[04:28] <ighost> bimberi: and it ate my windows partition, so it doesn't do that any more?
[04:28] <ShellMaza> i gots a problem
[04:28] <ShellMaza> i installed nvidia 8756 moudles and such into my kernel
[04:28] <bimberi> ighost: kk, we're probably talking about different issues then.  No it doesn't do that (intentionally) :) ).  Backups are always good though
[04:29] <ShellMaza> now i;m to the point where i have to installed nvidia-glx
[04:29] <ShellMaza> its complaining i'm missing x11-common
[04:29] <ShellMaza> but5 when i try to install a .deb of x11-common, it says it conflicts with xorg-common
[04:29] <ironpacake> how do you register?
[04:31] <ShellMaza> ne1?
[04:31] <Xbox_guru> hello, what program do I use to install windows drivers for my soundcard
[04:32] <ShellMaza> xbox, what card?
[04:32] <Xbox_guru> Crystal Logic
[04:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell ironpacake about register
[04:33] <ShellMaza> Alsa or asla dosen't work?
[04:33] <ighost> bimberi: ya, think you're right. i was told that this was a rare issue only on certain hardware configurations, and that they were working on it.
[04:33] <Xbox_guru> shell: nope, when I use the volume control it says no elements or devices to control
[04:34] <ShellMaza> humm
[04:34] <ShellMaza> did u change ur sound config?
[04:34] <Xbox_guru> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:34] <ShellMaza> i remmber seeing crystal logic in the kernel
[04:34] <Xbox_guru> that's what it comes up as in lspci
[04:34] <ShellMaza> so i should be supported
[04:35] <Xbox_guru> I guess it isn't, and I already updated breezy
[04:35] <ShellMaza> im still trying to get my gforce 6600 running
[04:35] <panchita> hello
[04:35] <ShellMaza> with nvidia kernel modules and current drivers
[04:35] <ShellMaza> but nvidia-glx has a dep problem
[04:36] <panchita> i need the iso image of ubuntu 4.10
[04:36] <Xbox_guru> is there a program where I can use windows drivers for it
[04:36] <ShellMaza> y?
[04:36] <ShellMaza> google ur sound card for Alsa Settings
[04:36] <Xbox_guru> ?
[04:36] <Xbox_guru> alsa?
[04:36] <panchita> where i can download?
[04:37] <panchita> please...
[04:37] <ShellMaza> Advance Linux Sound somthing
[04:37] <ShellMaza> its all ready installed bud
[04:37] <tritium> panchita: are you sure you want it?  It's so old that it's no longer supported.
[04:37] <spikeb> sound architechture
[04:37] <spikeb> spelled correctly, of course
[04:38] <Xbox_guru> well then why would I have no sound and volume control say no elements or devices to control.
[04:38] <ShellMaza> 1 sec
[04:38] <panchita> yes, i have a computer whit a 200mhz and 32mb ram
[04:38] <ShellMaza> System -|> Pref -|> Sound
[04:38] <mr_hus> Is it me or hinting makes fonts look bad on a LCD? I turned off hinting and fonts look a lot more like they do in OS X...
[04:38] <GeorgeAScott> hey hey
[04:38] <tritium> panchita: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/release/
[04:39] <panchita> thanks tritium
[04:39] <tritium> panchita: sure.  You might also look into using xubuntu (with xfce)
[04:39] <Xbox_guru> shellmazza: there is no default soundcard!!!!, the drivers for it arent loading
[04:40] <ShellMaza> is ur sound card supported by linux?
[04:40] <Xbox_guru> I don't know...
[04:40] <GeorgeAScott> can anybody tell me how to remote desktop a ubuntu machine from xp
[04:40] <ighost> does ubuntu support 802.11g network cards nowadays?
[04:40] <ShellMaza> if not, then we should result to forguirn drivers
[04:40] <tritium> yes, ighost
[04:40] <tritium> ShellMaza: which is the "ur" card?
[04:40] <ShellMaza> not mine
[04:40] <ShellMaza> Xbox_gurn
[04:41] <tritium> ur is the model?
[04:41] <Xbox_guru> the lspci came up with this
[04:41] <ighost> tritium: does it still use that ndis thing?
[04:41] <Xbox_guru> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:41] <ShellMaza> my problem is a dep conflict with nvidia-glx v8756
[04:41] <tritium> ighost: some do, some don't
[04:41] <ighost> tiritum: so some are supported natively?
[04:41] <AnarkiDotNET> err.....
[04:41] <tritium> ighost: yes.  Which do you have?
[04:41] <ighost> tritium: linksys
[04:42] <ShellMaza> pci?
[04:42] <ShellMaza> wpm11 v1?
[04:42] <AnarkiDotNET> why did the ubuntu configuration setup step just say "configuring bycyclerepair"?
[04:42] <ighost> tritium: i think it has broadcom chip
[04:42] <ShellMaza> check the verion
[04:42] <ShellMaza> on the card
[04:42] <spikeb> HEH
[04:42] <tritium> ighost: broadcom will be supported in dapper
[04:42] <spikeb> AnarkiDotNET: apparently there's something called bycyclerepair on your system
[04:43] <Xbox_guru> shell: how...
[04:43] <ighost> tritium: alright, thanks
[04:43] <AnarkiDotNET> lol
[04:43] <AnarkiDotNET> "Ubuntu - It even repairs your bycycle!"
[04:43] <tritium> AnarkiDotNET: apt-cache show <packagename> to find out more about it
[04:43] <codecaine> anybody know the location of the make command?
[04:43] <ShellMaza> XFX GeForce 6600, help
[04:43] <jonuk> help!
[04:43] <jonuk> :)
[04:43] <AnarkiDotNET> its still installing...
[04:44] <Xbox_guru> i ran the lspci and it came up with this, 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:44] <Xbox_guru> that's my soundcard
[04:44] <Xbox_guru> yes I'm running an older computer
[04:44] <nnn0> that's probably not the soundcard, but the chipset
[04:45] <tritium> codecaine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:45] <ShellMaza> pull the sound card ut
[04:45] <ShellMaza> and read the maker
[04:45] <Xbox_guru> nnno: then how would would I fix it?
[04:45] <panchita> tritium: i have a problem with nic-extra modules-2.6.10-5
[04:45] <jonuk> First, I'm on Windows right now...wanting to installed Ubuntu Breezy on my 2nd hard drive.  My first drive is completely taken by Windows (40GB), my second drive is 250GB.  When I start the installer, it gets to the "Starting Partitioner" stage, it loads to 100% then the screen goes blank and the partitioner never starts.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it hangs at 52% every time.
[04:46] <tritium> panchita: like what?
[04:46] <Xbox_guru> jonuk, what speed did you burn the iso at
[04:46] <panchita> when i install it the system
[04:46] <jonuk> I'm not sure, but it was pretty fast...it burned in about 5 minutes or les
[04:46] <jonuk> less
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> jonuk, burn the iso at the slowest possible speed
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> and try again
[04:47] <jonuk> okay, will do...can I ask one more question?
[04:47] <Xbox_guru> yea
[04:48] <tritium> jonuk: there is no question limit :)
[04:48] <Xbox_guru> :-P
[04:48] <jonuk> does this look like an alright way to set up my partitions? 10GB /root - primary, 20GB /home - logical, 1GB SWAP, 219GB NTFS /usr
[04:48] <ShellMaza> yup
[04:48] <tritium> sure, jonuk, depending on your needs
[04:49] <ShellMaza> but usr NTFS????
[04:49] <daddyANKEE> I nedd help installing flash player, after i download it tells me to type ./flashplayer-installer from the comand line but nothig happens, which is the comand line?? anybody please
[04:49] <jonuk> basically, I just want some space to install some programs on Linux, and use the rest of the drive for storage of media files
[04:49] <jonuk> Shell:  I don't really understand the "mount"
[04:49] <jonuk> what should I mount the NTFS to?
[04:49] <jonuk> I just want linux to be able to read the music/picture/video files
[04:50] <ShellMaza> not ntfs
[04:50] <ShellMaza> vfat
[04:50] <ShellMaza> linux cant write to ntfs
[04:50] <Xbox_guru> i'll google up some stuff about my sound card and see what I get
[04:50] <Xbox_guru> nite
[04:50] <ShellMaza> like ur expecing it to
[04:50] <jonuk> oh ok
[04:50] <panchita> tritium: have you any recomendation?
[04:50] <jonuk> so i should set it up to be vfat?
[04:50] <ShellMaza> yes
[04:50] <ShellMaza> but not /usr
[04:50] <jonuk> okay, where to
[04:50] <ShellMaza> like /windows/shared
[04:50] <TraceGreen> Hello, i don't have /dev/snd in my system, but i can load alsa modules and play ogg music, why?
[04:51] <tagabasak_> anyone here can help me on how to upgrade my flash player?
[04:51] <ShellMaza> trace /dev/alsa
[04:51] <jonuk> Shell: okay, thank you so much
[04:51] <ShellMaza> no problem
[04:52] <ShellMaza> ok, who here is running offical nvidia drive 8756 with a geforce 6600?
[04:52] <daddyANKEE> you guys suck thanks fo nothing
[04:52] <ShellMaza> daddyANKEE?
[04:52] <Kr0ntab> heya folks.  good evening
[04:53] <codecaine> hmmm vmware tools make ubuntu run slower
[04:53] <jonuk> okay, one more question :)
[04:53] <GTroy_> shellmaza, I was running a 6200 with 8756 and had problems
[04:53] <jonuk> this is in regards to the burning the ISO at a slower rate
[04:53] <tagabasak_> anyone here can give me a wiki or help on how to upgrade my flash player?
[04:53] <jonuk> i tried unplugging my 40GB hard drive and running the installer...and the partitioner worked
[04:53] <ShellMaza> kewl
[04:53] <GTroy_> !flash
[04:53] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:54] <jonuk> but i stopped it because i wanted to try and resolve the problem with them both working
[04:54] <ShellMaza> maybe a ide conflict
[04:54] <jonuk> so that GRUB would set up easily
[04:54] <panchita> thanks
[04:54] <jonuk> do you think that would indicate that it's not the CD?
[04:54] <pkh> is it difficult to install the ati proprietrary drivers on a non-networked pc (my brothers, 30mins drive from the nearest net connection...)
[04:54] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[04:54] <ShellMaza> jonku, install all to other drive
[04:54] <ShellMaza> set it as first boot device
[04:54] <pkh> I got him a new pc and want him to try ubuntu
[04:54] <GTroy_> eluedix, k3b
[04:55] <ShellMaza> then add windows option to grub
[04:55] <GTroy_> or gnomebaker
[04:55] <jonuk> also, when I was playing with the LiveCD...it stalled when it tried "Starting Enterprise Volume Management", but I hit ctrl+c and got past it
[04:55] <daddyANKEE> I need help installing flashplayer it tells me to type ./flashplayer-installer from the comand line but nothing happens what is the comand line?
[04:55] <jonuk> I'm assuming they're related
[04:55] <ShellMaza> daddyANKEE, does it day command not found
[04:55] <GTroy_> daddyankee are you in the right directory?
[04:55] <ShellMaza> is this for mozilla?
[04:55] <GTroy_> can you see flashplayer-installer when you type ls?
[04:56] <ubuntu> can't see videos from ubuntu live CD
[04:57] <ubuntu> any idea?
[04:57] <signature16> if i add a MySQL user ( create user userx identified by 'userxpass';) why wouldnt i be able to login to mysql with that username?
[04:57] <ShellMaza> did you assign that user a database?
[04:58] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[04:58] <daddyANKEE> yes it tells me to navigate to that directory and from the comand line type ./flashplayer-installer but nothing happens ??  I tried it a bunch of times allredy????
[04:58] <ShellMaza> navigate means goto the directory where flash is
[04:58] <ubuntu> by
[04:58] <ShellMaza> like /home/username/someinstallflashflder
[04:59] <bimberi> eduedix: for data cd/dvd's?  nautilus (the file manager)
[05:00] <adam_> hey all
[05:00] <bimberi> hi adam_
[05:00] <ShellMaza> nvidia-glx version 8756 is having a DEP problem
[05:00] <adam_> hm
[05:00] <adam_> 704 ppl
[05:00] <adam_> nice
[05:00] <adam_> ...
[05:00] <adam_> Er yea...so
[05:00] <ShellMaza> but the dep its looking for is x11-common, but aint that the same as xorg-common
[05:01] <griz1> I have a question I am using Dapper and I can't get VHCS server to work plus my updates don't work right It says I have errors
[05:01] <spikeb> 90% of the channel is never around at the same time
[05:01] <spikeb> so it's mostly parked nicks :)
[05:01] <adam_> hm
[05:01] <adam_> :)
[05:01] <adam_> argh
[05:01] <adam_> just as i get on
[05:01] <adam_> ned to go
[05:01] <adam_> lol
[05:01] <griz1> any one can help please do thanks...
[05:01] <adam_> the irony of life...parents raise u, and then they want u off ure own computer
[05:01] <adam_> XD
[05:01] <adam_> peace all
[05:02] <bimberi> phew, !enter was iminent
[05:02] <daddyANKEE> yes it tells me to navigate to that directory and from the comand line type ./flashplayer-installer but nothing happens ??  I tried it a bunch of times allredy????
[05:02] <bimberi> !dapper
[05:02] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[05:02] <SopWATh> daddyANKEE, are you looking at a command line interface? (also called the terminal)
[05:03] <griz1> Thanks
[05:03] <jonuk> When the Starting Partitioner stage hangs...if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F3 (i think) it comes up and says something like File Descriptor not found 1, file descriptor not found 2, etc, etc...then says somtehing like Reading all physical volumes this could take awhile...
[05:03] <mrproper> How can I find out what resolution and refresh rates my monitor and video card are capable of spitting out?
[05:03] <jonuk> and that's where it stalls
[05:03] <jonuk> I don't know if that helps any
[05:04] <evilmegaman> Hi I am using mepis  but I think this question applies to ubuntu too. I am trying to figure out how to make wifi start at boot time
[05:04] <daddyANKEE> sopWATh,im dont know how would i tell
[05:05] <tagabasak_> how can i upgrade to flash player 8?
[05:05] <mrproper> tagabasak_, Is it even out for Linux yet?
[05:05] <spikeb> tagabasak_: it's not out yet, nor will it be. there's a beta of flashplayer 8.5 though
[05:06] <tagabasak_> mpoic
[05:06] <Blake79> can someone send me the man for adding windows partitions....again :)
[05:06] <mrproper> spikeb: There's a beta nice!
[05:06] <tagabasak_> oic
[05:06] <tagabasak_> i thought it is out already
[05:06] <Elazar> GTroy_: If you're interested, I think I found a fix for that issue with the latest Gaim not opening links in the latest Firefox. Posted it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim#head-3ac59b4b89815654f5013d02c3773147c9715b61
[05:06] <mjb> I had a wifi card that would freeze the system at boot, a little shell script was a good soluttion
[05:06] <daddyANKEE> sopWATh,im dont know how would i tell
[05:06] <mrproper> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/public_beta/
[05:06] <SopWATh> daddyANKEE: You would have to manually open a terminal for you to be in one. Usually it looks a lot like a DOS window, but it should be just text
[05:06] <spikeb> tagabasak_: for some reason, they skipped version 8 for linux
[05:06] <mrproper> spikeb: It's not out for Linux yet
[05:06] <evilmegaman> mjb, this one just doesn't start without me forcing it to
[05:07] <spikeb> wtf
[05:07] <spikeb> there's a beta of nine?
[05:07] <spikeb> heh
[05:07] <mrproper> spikeb: But it's not for Linux apparently.
[05:07] <tagabasak_> spikeb, have u tried upgrading?
[05:07] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[05:07] <spikeb> tagabasak_: no, there's no flash plugin for my arch
[05:07] <mjb> ok... I tried sudo rmmod ndiswrapper and it wouldnt load at boot... then a simple two line script
[05:08] <mjb> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper ... then sudo iwconfig essid ....
[05:08] <evilmegaman> How do  I make a command script?
[05:08] <mjb> this resulted in a more stable system and less headaches
[05:08] <tagabasak_> spikeb, to bad i can visit the site that uses flash 8
[05:09] <jonuk> I'm going to ask this again, just in case someone has an alternative solution:
[05:10] <jonuk> First, I'm on Windows right now...wanting to installed Ubuntu Breezy on my 2nd hard drive.  My first drive is completely taken by Windows (40GB), my second drive is 250GB.  When I start the installer, it gets to the "Starting Partitioner" stage, it loads to 100% then the screen goes blank and the partitioner never starts.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it hangs at 52% every time.
[05:10] <KaosX> sounds like a bad source disk
[05:10] <KaosX> did you validate the md5?
[05:10] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, and how to i resolve this?
[05:11] <jonuk> KaosX...no.  But I did try unplugging my 1st hard drive (40gb), and running the installation disk...and the partitioner loaded
[05:11] <mjb> I just write a file using an editor add #!/bin/sh on the first line add those two lines of code I mentioned and then make it executeable...
[05:11] <eduedix> which app prefered for dvd and cd writing in gnome ?
[05:11] <Blake79> i just installed xine-ui through terminal command.  How do i access once i apt get?
[05:11] <jonuk> So that leads me to believe its not the CD
[05:12] <mjb> you may need a better shell scripts 101 lesson from the net
[05:12] <ShellMaza> jonuk
[05:12] <KaosX> eduedix: you want k3b
[05:12] <ShellMaza> remove 40gig
[05:12] <ShellMaza> install on other drive
[05:12] <ShellMaza> set first boot device in bios to 250gig drive
[05:12] <ShellMaza> add windows boot to grub on 250 gig
[05:12] <ShellMaza> problem solved :)
[05:12] <evilmegaman> mjb I see
[05:12] <KaosX> but he's getting frozen on 52% either way
[05:12] <jonuk> Shell, okay okay.  :)
[05:13] <evilmegaman> But if I make the file, how do I get the file to load?
[05:13] <jonuk> KaosX...no I don't get frozen if I have my 1st hard drive unplugged
[05:13] <KaosX> Thats an odd issue then
[05:14] <mjb> best of luck
[05:14] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:15] <tsipper> I am trying to install the newest gtk-gnutella, do I need to download it or can I do an apt-get install update?
[05:16] <mjb> chmod 775  <filename>
[05:16] <mjb> or click on file  properties
[05:16] <tsipper> mjb is that meant for me?
[05:16] <Blake79> Can someone send me the link to mp3 formats and windows partitions please, or tell me where to find them..Oubotu doesn't like me :)
[05:17] <ShellMaza> Blake????
[05:17] <mjb> don't think so I'm lousy at irc
[05:17] <ShellMaza> ur question made no sence to me
[05:17] <Blake79> the help link
[05:18] <Blake79> usually someone will have the ubotu give them to me.   I had to reinstall and need to configure my windows partitions
[05:18] <ShellMaza> /etc/fstab
[05:18] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:18] <ShellMaza> /dev/hda3       /D              vfat    defaults,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw        0       0
[05:18] <ShellMaza> to somthing like that
[05:18] <ShellMaza> but fix the /dev/***
[05:19] <ShellMaza> or change vfta to auto
[05:19] <ShellMaza> if u dont know the filesystem
[05:19] <Blake79> there is a script to auto-magically add the partition and have it mount each time i boot.
[05:19] <Blake79> diskmounter script or something
[05:19] <ShellMaza> yup, its called fstab
[05:20] <Blake79> !fstab
[05:20] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[05:20] <Blake79> ok, that's the one!
[05:20] <Blake79> thanks
[05:20] <ShellMaza> !nvidia-glx
[05:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ShellMaza
[05:20] <Blake79> there's one more for walking me through upgrading totem for .mpeg format
[05:20] <ShellMaza> damn
[05:20] <ShellMaza> i haven't gotton that far yet
[05:21] <ShellMaza> still trying to get my video card setup
[05:21] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:21] <Blake79> i see, how about audio?  have you gotten that?
[05:21] <ShellMaza> mine was auto detected
[05:21] <Blake79> i haven't gotten ubuntu to make a peep yet.
[05:21] <ShellMaza> have u looked at dmesg?
[05:22] <Blake79> !dmesg
[05:22] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blake79
[05:22] <Blake79> nope
[05:22] <ShellMaza> check for boot time errors
[05:22] <Blake79> none during boot up
[05:22] <ShellMaza> sudo dmesg
[05:22] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> is XAMPP stable on ubuntu 5.10?
[05:22] <dli> why "lspci" in ubuntu gives so many unknown device? can I add the device database?
[05:22] <Blake79> gave me a bunch of stuff, can make much of it
[05:23] <ShellMaza> ok
[05:23] <bpuccio> I can boot the dapper live CD fine on a macbook, so I assume it is OK to just use the normal x86 install CD as well? or do I need to do some other things as well to make sure that the computer will be able to boot Ubuntu?
[05:23] <Elmore> i got a question
[05:23] <Elmore> anyone willing to help me?
[05:23] <Blake79> !mp3
[05:23] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:23] <Kickersny> iTunes <IP_ADDRESS> stopped
[05:23] <ShellMaza> sudo dmesg >> dmesg.txt && sudo chown 1000:1000 dmesg.txt && vi dmesg.txt
[05:23] <lastnode> bpuccio, x86 should be fine, i reckon. you might wanna backup first though.
[05:24] <Elmore> i am on a ubuntu livecd and i wish to watch videos on like break.com, only problem is that on break.com they use windows media player, linux doesn't support windows media player how do i view them?
[05:24] <lastnode> bpuccio, did it find wifi etc alright? the livecd i mean
[05:24] <bpuccio> lastnode: there's nothing to backup, just got it this afternoon
[05:24] <ShellMaza> elmore, are u sure itsd wmf
[05:24] <ShellMaza> not mpeg
[05:24] <Elmore> not sure
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Elmore,  you may be out of luck if its really needing window media player.
[05:24] <ShellMaza> they would most likely be streaming mp3 or mpeg
[05:24] <lastnode> Elmore, on a live cd, it's kinda difficult to install the w32codecs needed
[05:24] <bpuccio> lastnode: I didn't look for wifi yet, according to what I've read it is a linux supported broadcom chip, I'm more worried about the macbook not having a real BIOS and stuff that PCs are used to
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> i agree with ShellMaza .
[05:24] <lastnode> bpuccio, oh lucky you :) go ahead then, shoud be fine
[05:25] <bpuccio> ok, thanks, lastnode
[05:25] <lastnode> bpuccio, that may be a problem, why not run through the first part, without installing packages
[05:25] <lastnode> bpuccio, see if ubuntu finds your ethernet, wifi etc
[05:25] <Elmore> all i need is the location i can download the nessacessary to view the,
[05:25] <Elmore> videos
[05:25] <lastnode> bpuccio, you're using bootcamp for this?
[05:25] <ShellMaza> on a LiveCD?
[05:25] <orz> hihi
[05:25] <lastnode> Elmore, on a livecd you cant. where would ubuntu install these packages?
[05:26] <odat> hi everyone
[05:26] <ShellMaza> ramdisk?
[05:26] <ShellMaza> :P
[05:26] <Elmore> true, a livecd is my only alternative because my HDD died
[05:26] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> ShellMaza,  tahts doable with that overlay filesstem stutt. :P
[05:26] <Elmore> there is no way to view those videos?
[05:26] <Elmore> on a livecd?
[05:27] <ShellMaza> elmore, damnsmalllinux.org
[05:27] <ShellMaza> :)
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Elmore,  could try the wolvix media edition live cd.
[05:27] <lastnode> Elmore, as ShellMaza said, you can try downloading toa ram disk, but it's gonna be a pita
[05:27] <Elmore> ok
[05:27] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:27] <Blake79> !audio
[05:27] <ubotu> Blake79: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:27] <Elmore> thanks
[05:28] <ShellMaza> look for a uninstall.sh
[05:28] <Blake79> !sound
[05:28] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:28] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:29] <ShellMaza> i get the Black Screen Of Death
[05:29] <lastnode> ShellMaza, using apt-get?
[05:30] <ShellMaza> no
[05:30] <ShellMaza> apt-get has OLD stuff
[05:30] <ShellMaza> 7xxx driver version
[05:30] <lastnode> from source, then?
[05:30] <ShellMaza> yes
[05:30] <ShellMaza> well .deb
[05:30] <lastnode> i see
[05:30] <lastnode> deps are a pain w/o a package manager
[05:30] <ShellMaza> i downloaded nvidia-kernel-common 8756
[05:30] <ShellMaza> blah blah
[05:30] <lastnode> im not aware of nvidia modules, have you tried compiling directly in to your kernel?
[05:30] <ShellMaza> rebuilt the kernel with modules_image
[05:31] <ShellMaza> that added it to kernel;
[05:31] <bpuccio> lastnode, it finds my ethernet, the bluetooth, no wifi, but from what I read, I need ndiswrapper and wifi will work, so I'm OK with that
[05:31] <lastnode> checked /lib/modules/uname-r/ ?
[05:31] <lastnode> bpuccio, cool. using bootcamp? id say go for it then. you can always wipe if not needed
[05:32] <ShellMaza> /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-pt+ht+v5/
[05:33] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:33] <ShellMaza> /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-p4+ht+v5/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[05:33] <lastnode> ShellMaza, what does lsmod give you?
[05:33] <ShellMaza> alot
[05:33] <ShellMaza> nvidia               4547732  0
[05:33] <ShellMaza> i2c_core               23424  1 nvidia
[05:33] <bpuccio> well, everyone seems to do it a different way http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/ didn't use bootcamp http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp uses rEFit (which I don't think I want) and I find yet other methods still
[05:33] <ShellMaza> u want the entire thing?
[05:34] <ShellMaza> agpgart                34148  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[05:34] <ShellMaza> i built this kernel to my system hardware and needs :)
[05:35] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> erm
[05:35] <lastnode> ShellMaza, i run gentoo. :) i build every kernel to my system/hardware needs.
[05:35] <lastnode> ShellMaza, im not really sure how to help you though. never used nvidia drivers.
[05:35] <ShellMaza> when i try to install x11-common~.deb
[05:35] <ShellMaza> it says it comflicts with xorg-common
[05:36] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> for the XAMPP installation it says to login as root with "su" command, i open a terminal and type "su" hit enter, then enter the (only) password i provided during the install process, and it says Authentication Failure
[05:36] <odat> welll thanks
[05:36] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> what password does it want?
[05:36] <ShellMaza> NWiki: sudo xterm
[05:36] <ShellMaza> then type in the new xterm, passwd
[05:36] <ShellMaza> set the root pass
[05:36] <ShellMaza> exit and try again
[05:36] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> k
[05:37] <odat> i installed flash player by downloading it and running the installer  how do i uninstall it ???
[05:37] <ShellMaza> odat, y?
[05:37] <crimsun> odat: remove the files by hand. You probably should have used flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse.
[05:37] <odat> ShellMaza, because i want to install it through a repo so i don't have to manually do it all the time
[05:38] <bimberi> |NWiki|AnarkiNet: use 'sudo -i' with your password to get a root shell
[05:38] <bimberi> !tell |NWiki|AnarkiNet about root
[05:38] <ShellMaza> bimberi, he dosent have the root pass set
[05:38] <odat> crimsun, yea i can't remember what i need to do to remove it by hand
[05:38] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> well
[05:38] <bimberi> ShellMaza: indeed
[05:39] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> i'm just following the XAMPP install instructions which say to do the "su" command then extract the xampp files to /opt
[05:39] <ShellMaza> NWiki: follow my steps
[05:39] <ShellMaza> sudo xterm
[05:39] <ShellMaza> it will ask for YOUR password
[05:39] <tamale> Hello everyone!   My new server-only breezy install is freezing at the "starting hotplug sub-system" and was wondering what the boot option is to turn off AGP support!!
[05:39] <ShellMaza> after that a new terminal will appear
[05:39] <ShellMaza> root@localhost:
[05:39] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> k
[05:40] <ShellMaza> in some cases
[05:40] <ShellMaza> then in the new terminal
[05:40] <ShellMaza> type passwd
[05:40] <ShellMaza> enter a New password for root
[05:40] <ShellMaza> re-enter password for root
[05:40] <ShellMaza> password will now be what u typed
[05:40] <ShellMaza> then exit
[05:40] <ShellMaza> go back to the other terminal and type "su -"
[05:41] <ShellMaza> it will ask you for the root pass
[05:41] <odat> ShellMaza, any idea what i need to do
[05:41] <ShellMaza> since u just set it, now u know it
[05:41] <ShellMaza> why bother man?
[05:41] <ShellMaza> if it works, DONT try to fix it
[05:41] <ShellMaza> :)
[05:42] <bimberi> |NWiki|AnarkiNet: note that 'sudo -i' achieves the same thing - gets you a root login shell (without having to set a root password)
[05:42] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> hmmm now i have to figure out where firefox put the file, it says it downloaded it to the desktop but it aint there
[05:42] <ShellMaza> bimberi, its nice to know the root pass for future stuff
[05:42] <odat> ShellMaza, i'll find it somewhere else that doesn't tell me a philosophy as well
[05:42] <odat> thanks anyway
[05:42] <ShellMaza> cd /home/username/Desktop
[05:42] <ShellMaza> :)
[05:42] <etzerd> hello room
[05:43] <bimberi> ShellMaza: i haven't needed one for 18 months :)
[05:43] <etzerd> can anybody tell me if the ubuntu 5.10 included the latest version of KDE 3.5?
[05:43] <ShellMaza> bimberi, wanna help me with a nvidia problem?
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> shell - it says no such file or directory
[05:44] <bimberi> etzerd: no, but you can install it
[05:44] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[05:44] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:44] <bimberi> ShellMaza: i only know about the wikipage
[05:44] <tamale> My new server-only breezy install is freezing at the "starting hotplug sub-system" and was wondering what the boot option is to turn off AGP support
[05:44] <bimberi> !nvidia
[05:44] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:44] <ShellMaza> change username to your login name for the system
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> obviously...
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> oh, i was forgetting the first /
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> :/
[05:44] <ShellMaza> :P
[05:44] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> my first time using anything *nix based...i prefer server 2k3
[05:44] <etzerd> Thanks everyone
[05:45] <ShellMaza> Ok, Lets try this again, i built the current nvidia-kernel mopdules into my kernel, when i goto install the nvidia-glx for 8756, it complains about a missing Dep x11-common, but aint x11-common the same as xorg-common, when i try to install x11-common it conflicts with xorg-common, please help
[05:46] <tamale> anyone?  :[
[05:46] <Some_Person> How to install without destroying windows?
[05:47] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> try the MS virtualization software :)
[05:47] <ShellMaza> resize partition
[05:47] <Some_Person> with?
[05:47] <Some_Person> (not willing to spend $$$)]
[05:47] <ShellMaza> the cd
[05:47] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> norton partitionmagic 8.0 works good
[05:47] <ShellMaza> the installer has a partition manager
[05:47] <revrogue> :) mornin
[05:47] <ShellMaza> should let u resize
[05:48] <Some_Person> not free
[05:48] <ShellMaza> ubuntu CD
[05:48] <ShellMaza> FREE
[05:48] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> it is if you know where to look
[05:48] <Some_Person> i have the free cds i got in the mail
[05:48] <ShellMaza> stick in the cd
[05:49] <ShellMaza> boot to it
[05:49] <ShellMaza> when it comes to partition
[05:49] <ShellMaza> select advance or expert
[05:49] <ShellMaza> resize windows partition to about 20GB lesss
[05:49] <Some_Person> will it destroy windows?
[05:49] <ShellMaza> then add a swap partitle of about 1gig
[05:49] <ShellMaza> then add a ext3 patitial
[05:49] <ShellMaza> nope
[05:49] <ShellMaza> i did i here
[05:49] <ShellMaza> on a 250gig
[05:50] <tritium> !enter
[05:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:50] <Some_Person> Yay!
[05:50] <ShellMaza> that held nothing but software :P
[05:50] <revrogue> hello I have a question about some vid probs with ubuntu an a x64 sys
[05:50] <nnn0> heh
[05:50] <ShellMaza> ?
[05:50] <ShellMaza> got ya
[05:50] <tamale> anyone know anything about boot options?
[05:51] <Some_Person> and, can i continue to use WinXP's bootloader?
[05:51] <ShellMaza> no
[05:51] <Some_Person> aww!
[05:51] <ShellMaza> grub will over write it, and you can add the windows boot option into grub with ease :)
[05:51] <Some_Person> there is no way at all?
[05:51] <ShellMaza> !grub
[05:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:51] <Some_Person> can i just not install GRUB?
[05:51] <ShellMaza> no
[05:52] <Some_Person> what'll happen?
[05:52] <revrogue> I cant get a live boot cd of Ubuntu to load, if I hook up a external monitior to the laptop though I get all the visuals
[05:52] <ShellMaza> u will be able to boot both windows and ubuntu easly
[05:52] <Some_Person> i heard that there was i file i can transfer to windows
[05:52] <Some_Person> that allows use of winxps bootloader
[05:52] <ShellMaza> no
[05:53] <cocox> hi, somebody knows how can i do for change my sudo password ??
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> its the first user you made password.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> so change his password with  passwd (i think)  should change it.
[05:56] <Some_Person> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html?page=last&x-showcontent=text
[05:56] <Some_Person> does this work?
[05:56] <ShellMaza> yes
[05:57] <Asusanator> DCC SEND "123456789101112" 0 0 0
[05:57] <Some_Person> but you said it was impossible.
[05:57] <ShellMaza> its not
[05:57] <ShellMaza> i will use the GRUB boot manager
[05:57] <Some_Person> you said i can't use the windows bootloader.
[05:58] <ShellMaza> windows boot manager
[05:58] <bimberi> heh, pdpc "supporter"
[05:58] <lastnode> http://pastebin.ca/56771 <-- can someone help with that error message?
[05:59] <untung> hi
[06:00] <untung> any one have enable chinese character input in ubuntu?
[06:01] <mick_> how do you create a new panel?
[06:02] <lastnode> mick_, right click, new panel
[06:02] <bimberi> mick_: right-click on an existing one, New Panel
[06:02] <tamale> My new server-only breezy install is freezing at the "starting hotplug sub-system" and was wondering what the boot option is to turn off AGP support
[06:02] <mick_> what if none are existing?
[06:02] <juice> is there a way to check the dvd I burnt from the ubuntu iso
[06:02] <juice> for errors
[06:03] <vort> DCC SEND "stringgreaterthan13characters"
[06:03] <waky> YEAH
[06:03] <mick_> nevermind
[06:03] <juice> how
[06:03] <waky> vort nice action
[06:03] <waky> xD
[06:03] <ShellMaza> should i install the ubuntu nvidia binary drivers and be done with it?
[06:03] <waky> vort nice action <--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[06:03] <tritium> waky: cut it out
[06:03] <bimberi> waky: no encouragement please
[06:04] <ShellMaza> sincei can't use the most reasont from nvidia?
[06:04] <waky> look at this vort write DCC SEND "stringgreaterthan13characters" and many user disconnetct
[06:04] <waky> this is crazy
[06:04] <tritium> waky: I'm fully aware.  that's why I banned him for using a DCC exploit.  Don't encourage him
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> waky,   dont type that. :P lol.
[06:05] <waky> sorry
[06:05] <waky> lol
[06:05] <DarkAura> do you have to buy a special wireless card to use airsnort / aircrack?
[06:05] <waky> this is a problem from netgear  ?
[06:05] <ShellMaza> darkaura, a supported one
[06:05] <waky> with the string
[06:05] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> why do you need a videocard anyway...
[06:05] <tritium> DarkAura: not all are supported
[06:05] <DarkAura> oh -- hehe
[06:05] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> i'm using a Matrox Millenium II with.... 4MB of video ram
[06:05] <DarkAura> wishfull thinking
[06:06] <|NWiki|AnarkiNet> it does 1600x1200 @ 85hz smoothly
[06:06] <sneex> How can I determine what "versions" of software are available using apt-cache without having to download them?
[06:06] <cocox> so... if the first user that i made in my Ubuntu is xxx and he has the sudo pass its ok to use the xxx account just for a common use ??
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  i do all the time. :P
[06:06] <juice> how can I check the integrity of the ubuntu dvd I just burn?
[06:06] <ShellMaza> ummm
[06:06] <ShellMaza> md5 the isp
[06:06] <ShellMaza> iso*
[06:06] <bimberi> sneex: apt-cache policy foo
[06:07] <sneex> kk
[06:07] <ShellMaza> and compair the md5 checksum
[06:07] <cocox> Dr_Willis, i dont understand you, are you saying that you use for everything the first account that you made?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  i have just the 1 user i made.
[06:07] <cocox> Dr_Willis, and you that would be ok ???
[06:07] <sneex> bimberi, ty =)
[06:08] <bimberi> sneex: np :)
[06:08] <Intangir> my sound craps out sometimes for .. some reason i dont know why, after a while OSS sound stops working
[06:08] <Intangir> anything using OSS fails
[06:08] <ShellMaza> question, should i give up on using nvidia 8756 binary driver and use ubuntu's old binary driver?
[06:08] <Intangir> ALSA still works fine
[06:08] <Intangir> even though.. i have OSS working thru alsa
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  theres notthing special about that user having the sudo password as well.
[06:08] <Intangir> i usually have to reboot
[06:09] <ShellMaza> restart the sound daemon
[06:09] <ShellMaza> oss is OLD
[06:09] <ShellMaza> use alsa
[06:10] <untung> hi, what is the newest version of ubuntu?
[06:10] <Intangir> some applications cant use alsa
[06:10] <untung> is it version 5.1 or 6?
[06:10] <Intangir> like .. firefox, flash
[06:10] <ShellMaza> dapper which is still beta or alpha
[06:10] <Intangir> cedega also doesnt work on ubuntu for some reason with alsa
[06:10] <ShellMaza> i run 5.10
[06:10] <sneex> Regarding "apt-cache policy apache2" -- is there a way to get at the config.layout and buildconf for that -- or is it included in the source download?  I ask because I wish to build Apache 2.2.2 but using Ubuntu's specifics.
[06:10] <tritium> untung: until June 1, breezy is the latest _stable_
[06:10] <cocox> Dr_Willis, but for me its a problem to have the same pass for a simple account and my root account
[06:10] <Intangir> what sound daemon do i restart?
[06:10] <ShellMaza> only 1 regret is nvidia driver
[06:11] <Madpilot> untung, 5.10 (five point ten) is current, 6.06 is the next one - still in beta
[06:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> anyone here using bacula after compiling from source?
[06:11] <gagamel> I use kate at gnome but work not Highlight. anyone know?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  then make a new account its no big deal either way
[06:11] <eumario> Anyone having trouble with NDISWrapper 1.14 or 1.16, getting it compiled, and working?
[06:11] <Intangir> whats the dapper channel?
[06:11] <untung> Madpilot, I found 6.06 distro in the link, are they stable one?
[06:11] <bimberi> Intangir: #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <Madpilot> untung, no, 6.06 is in beta until June 1st
[06:12] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/
[06:12] <sneex> #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <ShellMaza> let me look
[06:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> or did anyone install bacula from synaptic without a problem?
[06:12] <cocox> Dr_Willis, yes i know :S i just was wondering about this issue thnx anyway
[06:12] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/alsa boolean
[06:12] <untung> Madpilot, i am using 5.1. is there any DVD distro for that version?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  its a non-issue :P
[06:12] <ShellMaza> start/restart/stop
[06:12] <Madpilot> untung, I think so, yes. I've never used the DVD versions myself
[06:12] <cocox> Dr_Willis, lol thnx i'm just a noob so its for me lol
[06:13] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[06:13] <ShellMaza> should fix it
[06:13] <ShellMaza> damn, i didn;t know i knew soo much
[06:13] <ShellMaza> :P
[06:13] <untung> madpilot, i am looking for that as i need to download  a lot to upgrade/ install application
[06:14] <Sandma> evening...still trying...
[06:14] <Sandma> i'm at a terminal window,,,showing 3 folders...
[06:14] <blakeahlberg> can i get help? I definately can't get my network card recognized... I have both the one on my asrock motherboard and i put another old generic one in... and neither are showing up.
[06:14] <ShellMaza> ????
[06:14] <Madpilot> untung, scroll down to the bottom of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ for the DVD packages
[06:14] <ShellMaza> still trying what
[06:14] <Sandma> what is the command to get into the folder
[06:14] <Madpilot> Sandma, "cd"
[06:14] <ShellMaza> cd foldername
[06:15] <Sandma> tried that like 5 times...tells me there is not folder
[06:15] <ShellMaza> then its a file
[06:15] <sneex> whats folder?
[06:15] <Sandma> no slashes??
[06:15] <ShellMaza> ls -la
[06:15] <sneex> ls -Adl
[06:15] <ShellMaza> is it in blue?
[06:15] <sneex> lol
[06:15] <blakeahlberg> i feel so dumb.
[06:16] <ShellMaza> eh, dont feel that way
[06:16] <ShellMaza> i remember when i swore by M$
[06:16] <sneex> \=
[06:16] <tritium> blakeahlberg: don't worry about it.  You're learning, that's all :)
[06:16] <ShellMaza> now i dont even run it
[06:16] <cocox> anybody have the right dpkg for install amule ???
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !info amule
[06:17] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[06:17] <ShellMaza> yup
[06:17] <blakeahlberg> do you have any idea of what i should try? if it's a pci card it should just show up when you click on the configuration tool, right?
[06:17] <ShellMaza> BSOD!
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> ShellMaza,  that was the least of its problems.
[06:17] <ShellMaza> black?
[06:17] <ShellMaza> blake, huh?
[06:17] <blakeahlberg> jah?
[06:18] <ShellMaza> Dr_Willis, remember kernel crashes
[06:18] <cocox> Dr_Willis, ubotu, what did you do ?? please tell me
[06:18] <ShellMaza> you windows has been stoped to rsude system damage
[06:18] <tritium> cocox: remember that ubotu is a bot
[06:18] <cocox> tritium, lol thanx u
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> cocox,   :P !info packagename
[06:18] <cocox> !info amule
[06:18] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[06:19] <ShellMaza> !nvidia-glx
[06:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ShellMaza
[06:19] <ShellMaza> !nvidia
[06:19] <tritium> cocox: :)
[06:19] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:19] <blakeahlberg> maybe i'll just give up since i cant get networking to work and go back  to windblows.
[06:19] <InvisiblePinkUni> !info bacula
[06:19] <ubotu> bacula: (Network backup, recovery and verification (Meta-package)), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.36.3-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[06:19] <ShellMaza> im gonna break somthing
[06:19] <ShellMaza> i just knw it
[06:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> !info sudo rm -rf /
[06:20] <tritium> !botabuse
[06:20] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[06:21] <blakeahlberg> *commits suicide because he's spent all day on making this work.*
[06:21] <ShellMaza> omg
[06:21] <Madpilot> InvisiblePinkUni, not funny. Never funny, actually.
[06:21] <ShellMaza> i can't even use ubuntu's nvidia binary drive, my kernel is too new
[06:21] <hangfire> anyone know what kind of java compiler ubuntu comes standard with?
[06:21] <tritium> blakeahlberg: don't worry...
[06:21] <blakeahlberg> why should i not worry?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> hangfire,  i would guess none 'standard'
[06:22] <tritium> blakeahlberg: because there are people here to help.  Is it mission critical?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> hangfire,  you can install gcc, or the sun java tools , or some of the other java packages.
[06:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> Madpilot: whats wrong with some info on that?
[06:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> :p
[06:22] <hangfire> DrWillis, Im hoping that Sun's compiler comes in the ubuntu repository
[06:22] <blakeahlberg> yesh.
[06:22] <ShellMaza> jre
[06:22] <tritium> hangfire: dapper will have Sun's java now ;)
[06:22] <hangfire> gcc is just C/C++
[06:22] <GTroy> I have a ghost image on my twinview?  any help?
[06:22] <Madpilot> hangfire, it will in Dapper, with the relicensing Sun's just done
[06:22] <GTroy> only on one side though
[06:22] <hangfire> ah, cool, good news trit
[06:23] <tritium> GTroy: please, I'm scared of ghosts
[06:23] <GTroy> well I don't think this one haunts
[06:23] <GTroy> I dunno maybe it does
[06:24] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu must have some info on why "rm -rf" is a very dangerous command
[06:24] <ubotu> that's too long, InvisiblePinkUni
[06:24] <ShellMaza> so i guess im SOL on my glx
[06:24] <blakeahlberg> tritium, when i don't have internet, it's generally mission critical. mom will get angry after too much usage of her computer.
[06:24] <tritium> ShellMaza: you're not running a stock ubuntu kernel?
[06:24] <ShellMaza> no
[06:24] <ShellMaza> <IP_ADDRESS>-p4+ht+smp
[06:24] <ShellMaza> :)
[06:25] <ShellMaza> built by me
[06:25] <tritium> blakeahlberg: so I've not seen your earlier messages.  When did you lost internet access?
[06:25] <ShellMaza> with nvidia-kernel modules added
[06:25] <ShellMaza> that reflect the current driver 8756
[06:25] <tritium> Okay
[06:25] <tritium> ShellMaza:
[06:25] <tritium> thnka
[06:25] <tritium> thanks
[06:25] <tritium> for
[06:25] <tritium> the
[06:25] <blakeahlberg> trit, my network card isn't being recognized.
[06:25] <tritium> info
[06:25] <tritium> ;)
[06:25] <ShellMaza> sorry, it a old habbit
[06:26] <tritium> No worries, buddy :)
[06:26] <ShellMaza> i gotta break mt self from it, i'm trying very hard to do it
[06:26] <tritium> ShellMaza: so, you build the nvidia ubuntu packages from source, or what?
[06:26] <ShellMaza> my problem resided with nvidia-glx_1.0.8756-4_i386.deb wanting to use x11-common and not xorg-common
[06:27] <ShellMaza> i downloaed the .deb's and built everything my self
[06:27] <elknof1> does enybody knows how to activate the s-video out in a inspiron 600m??
[06:27] <crimsun> !info nvidia-glx dapper
[06:27] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.8756+<IP_ADDRESS>-4 (dapper), Packaged size: 3956 kB, Installed size: 12224 kB
[06:27] <elknof1> i've already configure the video card...  ati
[06:27] <tritium> ShellMaza: you're on dapper?
[06:27] <ShellMaza> no
[06:27] <ShellMaza> 5.10
[06:28] <elknof1> by the way   im in breezy
[06:28] <tritium> ShellMaza: okay, no wonder I'm not seeing that dependency the same way
[06:28] <ShellMaza> :) ding ding ding
[06:28] <tritium> ShellMaza: you seem like the type that should try dapper ;)
[06:28] <Gravol> howdy
[06:28] <tritium> hi Gravol
[06:29] <ShellMaza> my system flys, boots in 20 seconds to my desktop, everything fully custom, spalsh, grub, gdm, ect...
[06:29] <Gravol> hi
[06:29] <blakeahlberg> okie, lol. nobody really wants to deal with me. so i'll leave you alone.
[06:29] <ShellMaza> right down to the hardware of my system vs. my kernel
[06:29] <Gravol> is this a help channel?
[06:29] <ShellMaza> yes it is
[06:29] <tritium> ShellMaza: very nnice!
[06:29] <Gravol> alrighty
[06:29] <tritium> Gravol: sure is, amigo
[06:29] <Gravol> :D
[06:29] <Gravol> anywho
[06:29] <Madpilot> blakeahlberg, if you're not getting any response, it's likely because nobody has any answers for you. Hang out, and ask in a while.
[06:29] <ShellMaza> blake, i never understud ur question
[06:29] <Gravol> im very new to linux
[06:30] <Gravol> and i think i removed all my repositories
[06:30] <Gravol> how can i set them back to the default ones?
[06:30] <ShellMaza> reallt? open Add Programs
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Gravol,  just dont get mad when peole tell you to go read stuff. :P lol...
[06:30] <elknof1> lol...  apokryphos always have a clue...
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !repos
[06:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:30] <tritium> ShellMaza: anyway, it might be worth a try to either try dapper, or build the ubuntu source packages
[06:30] <Gravol> no
[06:30] <Gravol> i mean like adding all repositories
[06:30] <elknof1> apokryphos, do you know how to activate the s-video out??
[06:30] <tritium> Gravol: no sweat.  you'll be back in business in a jiffy
[06:30] <ShellMaza> ur not talking about compliing everything from source :(
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Gravol,  type '!easysource' and read the bot  url. it can make ya a new one.
[06:31] <blakeahlberg> i would think that the answer to the question that i have would be fairly simple... pretty much how do you make linux recognize a new network card? I put it in, the utility still says that there aren't any network devices.
[06:31] <Gravol> !easysource
[06:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:31] <Madpilot> graveson, see the 2nd URL in the stuff ubotu just posted for a "stock" official sources list
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  wireless card?
[06:31] <tritium> ShellMaza: if you don't want to, we can check out your problem, or you can try dapper
[06:31] <blakeahlberg> no.
[06:31] <Intangir> how can i restart alsa?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  check to see if the modules are loaded for it?
[06:31] <Gravol> wow this is confusing
[06:31] <tritium> Intangir: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa restart
[06:31] <ShellMaza> ok, how do i upgrade to dapper?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Gravol,  actually its rather trivial. :P
[06:32] <blakeahlberg> how can i load a new module for the new one?
[06:32] <Madpilot> Gravol, sorry, my note above about the 2nd URL was for you...
[06:32] <tritium> Intangir: no, scratch taht
[06:32] <tritium> that
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  use 'lsmod' to see whats loaded.. then if ya know the module name. and its not loaded use modprobe modulename
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  what is the network card anyway?
[06:32] <ShellMaza> the ubuntu 5.10 nvidia-binayr worked but was too old for me
[06:32] <tritium> ShellMaza: well, the dapper ones are newer ;)
[06:33] <blakeahlberg> I dont know, i put a generic one in after the motherboard integrated one didnt work.
[06:33] <ShellMaza> and 8756 has been driving me insane for 5 days
[06:33] <tritium> blakeahlberg: it's not listed in either dmesg or lspci?
[06:33] <nox_freak> got a problem every time I set a default gw route gnome and all gnome packages crash and stop working.
[06:33] <Gravol> ok nvm, putting my sources.list in
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> blakeahlberg,  you need to determine its chipset.  and thus what module it needs.
[06:33] <Madpilot> Gravol, got it sort out, then?
[06:33] <ShellMaza> ok, inserting dapper cd, how my custom stuff dont dissapear :(
[06:34] <Gravol> kindof
[06:34] <blakeahlberg> okay, that would probably be easier for the integrated one...
[06:34] <Madpilot> sorted, even... gah
[06:34] <ShellMaza> is it a clean update? or will i have to reinstall everything?
[06:34] <tritium> ShellMaza: which CD do you have?  You can always dist-upgrade if you change your sources.list
[06:34] <Madpilot> ShellMaza, is your system (under all the custom stuff) still Ubuntu based?
[06:34] <ShellMaza> and murder my network :P
[06:34] <ShellMaza> no
[06:34] <loki_> how do you get a user friendly filesharing  program
[06:34] <loki_> besides amule
[06:34] <ShellMaza> limewizre
[06:34] <Gravol> limewire?
[06:35] <tritium> ShellMaza: it's up to you.  don't do anything you're not comfortable with
[06:35] <Gravol> www.limewire.com
[06:35] <defcon8> limewizzire
[06:35] <ShellMaza> they have a linux version
[06:35] <loki_> limewire how do you install it through
[06:35] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell loki_ about limewire
[06:35] <loki_> i dont have no clue about source code
[06:35] <ShellMaza> after recoding alof of python to get gdesklets working and sutff
[06:35] <defcon8> loki_, there is no source code
[06:35] <ShellMaza> my nightmare returns
[06:35] <defcon8> its in java
[06:36] <loki_> then how do you install it then
[06:36] <defcon8> just dl the tar.gz (for other systems) and: sh runeLime.sh
[06:36] <defcon8> and then it opens the installer
[06:36] <Madpilot> loki_, the bot should have sent you a PM with information
[06:36] <ShellMaza> download it form www.limeware.com and get the linux version, its a rpm
[06:36] <ShellMaza> then do sudo rpm -i File.rpm
[06:36] <ShellMaza> make sure jre is install!!!!
[06:36] <Madpilot> ShellMaza, um, Ubuntu doesn't use rpm...
[06:37] <tritium> ShellMaza: no .deb?  perhaps suggest using alien
[06:37] <ShellMaza> tarball :)
[06:37] <defcon8> loki_, bloody hell just find some stuff out for yourself
[06:37] <ShellMaza> build from source?
[06:37] <ShellMaza> ;P
[06:37] <tritium> defcon8: please be courteous
[06:38] <ShellMaza> so im gonna have to rebuild my kernel aint i?
[06:38] <tritium> ShellMaza: I never do
[06:38] <defcon8> tritium, i was on linux for a year before i knew about irc
[06:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell defcon8 about coc
[06:38] <ori> ShellMaza, for what?
[06:38] <ShellMaza> will the cd do a easy update?
[06:38] <jeff2> "apt-get install php4" tries to install apache2, how can I install php4 for apache 1.3.33?
[06:39] <ShellMaza> install apache first]
[06:39] <defcon8> Madpilot, oh pardon me. i thought this was #linux
[06:39] <jeff2> ShellMaza, I did, then both versions get installed
[06:39] <loki_> how come i cant install java it says that its not installible
[06:39] <blakeahlberg> when I put in
[06:39] <Madpilot> defcon8, being rude to noobs is acceptable in #linux, is it?
[06:39] <blakeahlberg> oops
[06:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell loki_ about java
[06:40] <ShellMaza> loki_, sanaptics search for jre
[06:40] <defcon8> Madpilot, it is "accepted"
[06:40] <blakeahlberg> when i put in modprobe sis900 it says operation not permitted
[06:40] <tritium> defcon8: not here, though
[06:40] <tankpunk> is this the correct channel for dapper?
[06:40] <Madpilot> defcon8, well, this is #ubuntu, and thankfully it's not "accepted" here...
[06:40] <Madpilot> tankpunk, #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <tankpunk> ty
[06:41] <defcon8> tritium, yes, which is why i stopped
[06:41] <blakeahlberg> can you tell me what I can do to make the module sis900 work? it says operation not permitted.
[06:42] <tritium> defcon8: cool, thanks.  :)
[06:42] <ShellMaza> ok, doing a clean install of dapper
[06:42] <ShellMaza> gonna save my work on my vfat drive, wish me luck :)
[06:42] <tritium> ShellMaza: wow, giving up all that customization?
[06:43] <ShellMaza> i have most of it tarballed
[06:43] <tritium> good
[06:43] <ShellMaza> i know a joke, but its too lonng
[06:43] <tritium> ShellMaza: you can tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <ShellMaza> A Sys Admin was at the beach making a sancastel, then he wanted to make some changes and a though came to mind, i should make a backup, he felt very dumb
[06:44] <ShellMaza> sorry, i was in the middle of typeing it
[06:44] <tritium> no problem
[06:44] <ShellMaza> find it funny?
[06:44] <toad013> was there a fix for the hardware abstraction layer hald problem when mounting smbfs
[06:44] <tritium> ShellMaza: yeah, a bit ;)
[06:45] <peterd> #mepis
[06:45] <tamale_> holy crap
[06:45] <tamale_> what just happened
[06:45] <tritium> nothing, tamale_
[06:45] <elknof1> is it normal that when playing a video file on a micro$oft window$  net, it buffers almost every 15 seconds??
[06:45] <Gravol> wtf
[06:45] <Gravol> why cant i install mplayer?
[06:45] <tamale_> what do you mean nothing?
[06:46] <tamale_> i'm seeing ridiculous amounts of joining
[06:46] <Gravol> why cant i install mplayer?
[06:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Gravol about mplayer
[06:46] <elknof1> gravol: try using automatix
[06:46] <elknof1> it worked perfect for me
[06:46] <Madpilot> !automatix
[06:46] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[06:47] <elknof1> yeah but maybe it depends on the program you're willing to install
[06:47] <Gravol> well
[06:47] <Gravol> how do i install mplayeR?
[06:47] <Madpilot> Gravol, check the pm you just got from ubotu
[06:47] <nickrud> !mplayer
[06:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:48] <Gravol> yep
[06:48] <Gravol> just noticed it
[06:48] <Intangir> whats the difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade?
[06:48] <elknof1> when trying just to install multimedia it doesnt overwite configuration files
[06:48] <nickrud> Intangir, dist-upgrade can remove packages if need be, upgrade can't
[06:49] <phenom> Hello everyone, I am a new Ubuntu user
[06:49] <tritium> welcome, phenom
[06:49] <phenom> I am also new to Linux
[06:49] <phenom> Hello Tritium :)
[06:49] <tritium> Awesome!
[06:50] <varsendagger> that is cool phenom do you like sudoku?
[06:50] <phenom> I am having a slight problem with 3D and getting a 3D game to run however
[06:50] <Zane42> I've got two problems with ubuntu that are driving me nuts.
[06:50] <varsendagger> phenom, what game?
[06:51] <phenom> Warsendagger, I have used Redhat, Mandrake, Slackware, Debian, Suse and I must say, Ubuntu has taken me :)
[06:51] <Madpilot> phenom, what type of video card do you have? ATI or Nvidia?
[06:51] <phenom> Warsendagger, Quake 1
[06:51] <elknof1> tritium: im trying to play a video that is allocated on a micr.. wind...  network, with totem...   it works, but after every 15 seconds it buffers...
[06:51] <phenom> ATI Radeon 9800 128MB
[06:51] <Madpilot> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:51] <Madpilot> phenom, ^^^
[06:51] <elknof1> do you know how to play it continued?
[06:51] <tritium> elknof1: what type of video?
[06:51] <elknof1> is a movie
[06:51] <elknof1> avi
[06:52] <phenom> ubotu, Thank you for your help!
[06:52] <ubotu> de nada, phenom
[06:52] <Zane42> 1.  It locks up for no apparent reason.  And hard.  I can't do Control -Alt-Backspace or anything...  All I can do is reset.  I've thought of puting another computer on the network and trying to ssh in to see if I can find out what's going on, but I'm not even sure that will work.  Some times it will go hours without locking up.  And sometimes only minutes.  If anyone has ideas I would appreciate it.
[06:52] <pvd2006> say you download something with apt-get
[06:52] <Gravol> why does this have to be confusing?
[06:52] <pvd2006> how can you send someone a package
[06:52] <pvd2006> ?
[06:52] <tritium> elknof1: have you installed packages to handle restricted formats?
[06:52] <elknof1> yeap
[06:52] <Gravol> why cant it just be like double click install
[06:52] <Gravol> ?
[06:52] <L_> can someone tell me how to change the system sound theme in ubuntu?
[06:52] <elknof1> everithing...
[06:52] <phenom> I don't see Linux as confusing, I see it as a challange to learn :)
[06:52] <ShellMaza> tri: dapper run good for you?
[06:53] <tritium> Gravol: it can be.  Have you tried synaptic?
[06:53] <elknof1> actually, if i download the file to mi lap i have no problems
[06:53] <Gravol> im in it
[06:53] <Zane42> 2.  USB mouse kicks out every now and then and I have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it up again.  Once again this appears to happen for no specific reason.
[06:53] <pvd2006> dapper works good for me:)
[06:53] <Gravol> all the tuts are just like
[06:53] <Gravol> do this and it works
[06:53] <Gravol> but it the stuff still doesnt work
[06:53] <Gravol> *but the
[06:54] <L_> can someone tell me how to change the system sound theme in ubuntu?
[06:54] <Madpilot> Gravol, what are you trying to install?
[06:54] <jmoncayo> i installed from aptitude amsn when i ran it, it says there is anewer version of amsn from sourceforge how can i update it?
[06:54] <tritium> Gravol: can you be more specific?
[06:55] <Gravol> mplayer
[06:55] <tritium> Gravol: which processor do you have?
[06:55] <ShellMaza> trying to find the cdnow
[06:55] <Gravol> intel pentium 2
[06:55] <Gravol> on laptop
[06:55] <jmoncayo> can somebody help me??
[06:55] <tritium> Gravol: apt-cache search mplayer, and install the version that matches your processor, e.g. mplayer-686
[06:56] <Gravol> see
[06:56] <Gravol> stuff like that in tuts
[06:56] <Gravol> i honestly did not understand what you wrote
[06:56] <Madpilot> Gravol, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto seems usable
[06:56] <tritium> Gravol: you can also search in synaptic for mplayer
[06:57] <elknof1> does any body knows how to enable the tv s-video out in a ati card??  -drivers already installed-
[06:57] <ShellMaza> gotta download it
[06:57] <tritium> You'll find packages named with a convention like mplayer-$(arch)
[06:57] <ShellMaza> i dont see dapper iso
[06:57] <tritium> ShellMaza: cdimage.ubuntu.com has them.  Look under releases for flight 7
[06:57] <elknof1> !s-video
[06:57] <ubotu> elknof1: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:58] <Zane42> Does anyone have any idea where to begin resolving my issue?  I've never had linux lock so hard before that control-alt-backspace or control-alt-f1 doesn't work.  Crazy thing is the mouse pointer still works fine when this happens.  I can zip it all over the screen.
[06:58] <ShellMaza> is dapper in stable stage?
[06:58] <tritium> Zane42: what are you running?  breezy?
[06:58] <Madpilot> ShellMaza, more or less - and if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces ;)
[06:58] <tritium> ShellMaza: not until June 1
[06:58] <Zane42> Breezy
[06:59] <Zane42> 686 kernel.
[06:59] <phenom> Question, Should I exit X befor I install my ATI drivers?
[06:59] <ShellMaza> yes
[06:59] <Frogzoo> Zane42: does caps lock key turn the led on/off?
[06:59] <ShellMaza> mine does
[06:59] <ShellMaza> flight-7?
[06:59] <Zane42> Good question.  I don't know.
[06:59] <Gravol> ok
[06:59] <Gravol> im in snaptic
[06:59] <Zane42> Fogzoo I didn't try it... next lockup I'll give that a shot.
[06:59] <tritium> ShellMaza: a milestone development release
[06:59] <Gravol> synaptic
[07:00] <Gravol> and choose some mplayer packages
[07:00] <elknof1> !maxtaptime
[07:00] <ubotu> elknof1: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:00] <ShellMaza> what? i went to release/dapper
[07:00] <Gravol> then clicked apply
[07:00] <Frogzoo> Zane42: most likely suspect is always your vid driver so upgrade if possible
[07:00] <Gravol> is that it?
[07:00] <Zane42> Nvidia driver.
[07:00] <Madpilot> Gravol, should be
[07:00] <Gravol> so how do i use it now?
[07:00] <Zane42> I'm running the latest that's available in the repositories.
[07:00] <Zane42> Should I try to use the one off NVIDIA's site?
[07:00] <Madpilot> Gravol, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:00] <elknof1> !easyubuntu
[07:00] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[07:01] <Zane42> Geoforce4 mx440
[07:01] <jeff2> how can one install php for apache 1.3.33, instead of apache 2?
[07:01] <Zane42> Twin View
[07:01] <Zane42> 2 monitors.
[07:01] <ShellMaza> i want text mode install
[07:01] <ShellMaza> right, tri?
[07:01] <jeff2> is it impossible using apt-get?
[07:02] <spikeb> ShellMaza: that's actually up to you - you can install off the livecd
[07:02] <tritium> ShellMaza: that's all there is on the install CD.  Live CD has a gui installer I've not tried.
[07:02] <Gravol> ok
[07:02] <ShellMaza> text mode was how 5.10 ran for the installer :)
[07:02] <Gravol> so when i try and watch a clip or anything online
[07:02] <Gravol> and its supposed to be in wmp, will i still see it?
[07:02] <ShellMaza> Gravol, wmp?????
[07:03] <Gravol> windows media player
[07:03] <elknof1> lol..   what's the complete name of the configuration file??   x-(i dont know what)
[07:03] <spikeb> if you have win32codecs installed, yeah
[07:03] <ShellMaza> windows............. what format are they streaming?
[07:03] <bony> i tried to install e17 as instructed in "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto?highlight=%28e17%29" every thing went well untill the script started compiling evas it gave the following errors "automake: src/modules/engines/software_x11/Makefile.am: warning: automake does not support module_la_LDFLAGS being defined conditionally" how to get rid of these warnings ?
[07:03] <ShellMaza> /etc/xorg.conf
[07:03] <ShellMaza> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <elknof1> thanks
[07:04] <Gravol> wmv
[07:04] <ShellMaza> wmv?
[07:04] <ShellMaza> what web site are you trying to watch video from?
[07:04] <defcon8> i wish i could make totem go away
[07:04] <Gravol> nothing in specific
[07:04] <ShellMaza> defcon8
[07:04] <Gravol> like
[07:05] <ShellMaza> synaptics, purge :)
[07:05] <Gravol> some sites have .wmp clips to watch
[07:05] <spikeb> just a general question :)
[07:05] <Gravol> *.wmv
[07:05] <Gravol> .wmv is windows media video
[07:05] <spikeb> !tell Gravol about win32codecs
[07:05] <elknof1> whats the synonym od kdesu in gnome??
[07:05] <ShellMaza> !google *.wmv
[07:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ShellMaza
[07:05] <elknof1> isnt it gtkdo??
[07:05] <ShellMaza> oops
[07:05] <Madpilot> elknof1, gksudo
[07:05] <spikeb> elknof1: gksudo
[07:05] <elknof1> lol thanks
[07:05] <ShellMaza> gksudo
[07:05] <Zane42> Any ideas why I would have to reinitiate my mouse by unplugging it and plugging it back in every now and then?
[07:05] <ShellMaza> eh, too slow
[07:06] <ShellMaza> usb or ps/2?
[07:06] <ShellMaza> 705.0MB ISO
[07:06] <Zane42> usb
[07:06] <ShellMaza> wtf
[07:07] <elknof1> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf        whats wrong in mi line??
[07:07] <Zane42> It just kicks off for no apparent reason.
[07:07] <ShellMaza> elnofl sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:07] <jmoncayo> how can i upgrade a program if i have de bed package??
[07:07] <elknof1> even if im working on 5.10??
[07:07] <harisund> jmoncayo do you mean bad package?
[07:08] <ShellMaza> elk
[07:08] <ShellMaza> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <ShellMaza> :)
[07:08] <ShellMaza> wait
[07:08] <phenom> How do I get back to the GUI if I use CRTL+ALT+SHIFT+ F1 to end the X session?
[07:08] <ShellMaza> that might not work
[07:08] <nickrud> elknof1, try gksudo "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:08] <spikeb> no, his line is right
[07:08] <harisund> phenom you never ended it.
[07:08] <harisund> phenom just hit Ctrl Alt F7 to get back.
[07:08] <spikeb> phenom: session's still running, crtl alt f7 :)
[07:08] <phenom> harisund, thank you!
[07:08] <ShellMaza> to end ctrl alt f1
[07:09] <harisund> sure thing phenom. it worked?
[07:09] <ShellMaza> tty7 is GUI
[07:09] <jmoncayo> harisund, i downloaded a newer version of a program i already have installed, it is the deb package, how can i upgrade
[07:09] <ShellMaza> install over it
[07:09] <harisund> jmoncayo: use "dpkg --install <name of the deb file>.deb
[07:09] <ShellMaza> dpkg -i pakcage
[07:09] <l_> how can i change my console font?
[07:09] <elknof1> thanks...
[07:09] <ShellMaza> edit ur profile
[07:10] <ShellMaza> Edit -> Profile -> Default
[07:10] <phenom> harisund, I haven't tryed it yet, I'm preparing to install my video drivers
[07:10] <harisund> phenom: ah ok ..
[07:10] <ShellMaza> phenom
[07:10] <ShellMaza> ctrl alt f1
[07:10] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:10] <ShellMaza> then run
[07:10] <elknof1> does it matter how do i write on xorg??  i mean   im adding a line to the touchpad conf,  wich is maxtaptime=0
[07:10] <phenom> ShellMaza, Whats that for?
[07:10] <l_> i dont mean teh terminal font, i mean the console, outside of the gui
[07:10] <jmoncayo> harisund, will that upgrade the package?
[07:10] <ShellMaza> ati requires x to 100% off
[07:11] <harisund> jmoncayo typically if you have the dependancies it should.
[07:11] <ShellMaza> l_ kernel based
[07:11] <spikeb> does it?
[07:11] <nickrud> jmoncayo, where'd you get that deb?
[07:11] <spikeb> i used to install the ati drivers while running X, actually
[07:11] <spikeb> hehe
[07:11] <phenom> ShellMaza, Thank you!
[07:11] <ShellMaza> l_ u gotta re-compile your kernel with a predefined font thats avaible
[07:11] <jmoncayo> nickrud, from sourceforge
[07:12] <elknof1> does it matter how do i write on xorg??  i mean   im adding a line to the touchpad conf,  wich is maxtaptime=0
[07:12] <nickrud> jmoncayo, ok, as long as it wasn't a debian binary :)
[07:12] <harisund> jmoncayo just try doing that and see if it gets installed. If it couldn't it would tell you what else you need.
[07:12] <ShellMaza> as long their is no trailing white spaces
[07:12] <harisund> nickrud, what would happen if it was a debian binary?
[07:12] <defcon8> there?
[07:13] <ShellMaza> i want to install a custom font into my kernel
[07:13] <elknof1> when editing xorg...   do i have to reboot to commit changes??
[07:13] <nickrud> harisund, it probably would have some issues, there's no guarantee of binary library compatibility between ubuntu & debian
[07:13] <harisund> nickrud ah yes. right ok.
[07:13] <jmoncayo> ok it is a ubuntu .deb package tho
[07:13] <ShellMaza> dont know if its possible, would be aswome to have the abandom font
[07:13] <harisund> jmoncayo all the better.just do 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[07:14] <ShellMaza> tri: see if kernel <IP_ADDRESS> nvidia stuff is on dapper
[07:14] <jmoncayo> harisund, i am going to that after apt-get upgrade finishes
[07:14] <elknof1> when editing xorg...   do i have to reboot to commit changes??
[07:14] <ShellMaza> no
[07:14] <harisund> jmoncayo, yes, dpkg wouldn't allow you to install a deb file when apt is running.
[07:14] <defcon8> elknof1, just restart x
[07:14] <nickrud> elknof1, log out, hit clt-alt-backapsce
[07:14] <ShellMaza> ctrl alt f1
[07:15] <sneex> \=
[07:15] <ShellMaza> /etc/init.d/gdm stop && /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:15] <ShellMaza> will shut down X and start it back up
[07:15] <nickrud> ShellMaza, you should mention the logout, they may have something open & be upset about losing data
[07:15] <ShellMaza> true
[07:15] <defcon8> ShellMaza, umm wont the term close before it can do the second command?
[07:16] <ShellMaza> it will drop your to a tty terminal
[07:16] <defcon8> nickrud, they should think about that because they have been told to restart x
[07:16] <nickrud> defcon8, sometimes people are literal.
[07:16] <defcon8> ShellMaza, if you do ctrl alt backspace, it will automatically stop and bring you back to the login screen
[07:16] <harisund> that is right but nickrud has a point. Restarting X will kill all othe rapplications, and most users might not be expecting that.
[07:16] <ShellMaza> true
[07:16] <ShellMaza> but i like the hard way
[07:16] <defcon8> right i must get out of here
[07:16] <ShellMaza> learn more
[07:16] <defcon8> i can not take any more
[07:17] <defcon8> see you
[07:17] <awesometaylor> hey guys what is a command to rename a file?
[07:17] <ShellMaza> mv
[07:17] <ShellMaza> mv orginal new
[07:17] <ShellMaza> thats how i do it
[07:18] <eggzeck> that IS the way to do it
[07:18] <awesometaylor> shweet
[07:18] <ShellMaza> excuse me
[07:18] <awesometaylor> thanks
[07:18] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: just letting you know that it's not the way you do it, but is the way its done :)
[07:18] <ShellMaza> k, but the CAPS rep as yelling
[07:19] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: not all of us believe this. ;)
[07:19] <ShellMaza> hehe
[07:19] <ShellMaza> i feel like i will be a good helper here
[07:19] <ShellMaza> setting this server static and channel in x-chat
[07:20] <ShellMaza> slackware was my last os
[07:20] <ShellMaza> till i really broke it
[07:20] <ShellMaza> hehe
[07:20] <Ademan> when you compile something with gcc on the command line do you hafta specify the stdc++ library explicitly for linking?
[07:20] <eggzeck> !offtopic
[07:20] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:21] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: fyi. :)
[07:21] <ShellMaza> CC=stdc++
[07:21] <jmoncayo> harisund, i think everything went well
[07:21] <ShellMaza> something to that nature
[07:21] <jmoncayo> could you go to #flood so i cant paste everything
[07:21] <eggzeck> jmoncayo: there is pastebin
[07:21] <ShellMaza> egg; was i off topic?
[07:22] <Ademan> ShellMaza: thanks, is that with gcc or the linker?
[07:22] <jmoncayo> eggzeck, yes but joining flood is easier i think
[07:22] <harisund> I could go to flood, but I would prefer you use pastebin jmoncayo.
[07:22] <eggzeck> jmoncayo: no it isn't, becaue not everyone wants to join #flood
[07:22] <ShellMaza> ademan, its somthing likex export CC=stdc++.x.x.x
[07:22] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: yes, as soon as you started discussing 'slackware' n stuff :)
[07:22] <jmoncayo> ok ok from now on i will always use pastebin
[07:22] <ShellMaza> it was a completment
[07:23] <ShellMaza> saying i perfer ubuntu over SL
[07:23] <jmoncayo> harisund, everything ok right?
[07:23] <harisund> ShellMaza that's true, but this is a support channel ..
[07:23] <ShellMaza> sorry
[07:23] <harisund> jmoncayo from whta I see in the #flood channel, it looks like everything installed fine.
[07:23] <Ademan> ShellMaza: hrm ok, thanks
[07:23] <GenitalCombat> So! Sun is now backing Ubuntu!
[07:23] <jmoncayo> i get this error
[07:24] <jmoncayo> Application initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
[07:24] <harisund> If you want to verify, just run the application you installed and make sure that it is the version you want. Or use 'dpkg --list | grep ^ii| grep package' where package is the name of the package you just installed.
[07:24] <harisund> jmoncayo: what are you trying to do? First, do you have the X windows running? That is a typical error while trying sometihng like X Forward
[07:24] <Ademan> by the way, i noticed that ubuntu said "free security updates for a year" or something similar... is that to say you hafta pay money for updates after that? (a la norton antivirus?) that doesnt sound right
[07:24] <jmoncayo> runing xwindow
[07:25] <eggzeck> norton?
[07:25] <jmoncayo> harisund, done i didnt realize i still was logged in as root
[07:25] <cpnl> hello
[07:25] <ShellMaza> egg: dapper has glx and 3d excell ofr nvidia right?
[07:26] <eggzeck> yes
[07:26] <harisund> jmoncayo: whoa ! be careful.. you would be better off doing stuff as regular user and using sudo instead of actually 'logging in as root'
[07:26] <ShellMaza> kewl, installing i go
[07:26] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: yes
[07:26] <eggzeck> :)
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: No...where'd you see that?
[07:26] <ShellMaza> too much hassel to get 8756 binary driver to work
[07:26] <ShellMaza> in 5.10
[07:26] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: I use ATI Radeon 9250
[07:27] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: with fglrx and has 3D Accel
[07:27] <ShellMaza> i have GeForce 6600
[07:27] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: but from what I hear nvidia is EASY to setup
[07:27] <ShellMaza> i tryed for 5 days stright
[07:28] <jmoncayo> harisund, well i think it is a bad thing i like to do but i will start doing things with sudo
[07:28] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: yes your GeForce will do good.
[07:28] <jmoncayo> i opened a xterm and su -
[07:28] <ShellMaza> even nvidia gave up on me.... i went to the extent of builting the modules right into the kernel
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Normal releases are supported for 18 months, meaning that updates are available for them for that period, and after that you would have to upgrade to another version.  Long term versions (like Dapper) are, of course, longer.  But at no point is anything not free, you just need a new version.
[07:28] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: not on Ubuntu?
[07:28] <ShellMaza> on ubuntu
[07:29] <ShellMaza> i went to kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:29] <ShellMaza> and enabled SMP and ht
[07:29] <ShellMaza> and removed a bunch of junk and optimeized it to my hardware
[07:30] <jmoncayo> harisund, ok buddy thanks a lot
[07:30] <Ademan> tonyyarusso: oh ok that's reassuring
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> :)
[07:30] <ShellMaza> ademan, i'm going to dapper in about 10 minutes
[07:30] <harisund> sure jmoncayo, as long as evrything works !
[07:30] <eggzeck> ShellMaza: then it isn't Ubuntus fault :P
[07:31] <Ademan> ShellMaza: from breezy?
[07:31] <ShellMaza> nope, its nvidias for using a old x11-common package and not xorg-common
[07:31] <ShellMaza> yes ademan
[07:32] <ShellMaza> nvidia-glx-blahblahblah.deb requires x11-common
[07:32] <phenom> Hello again
[07:32] <Ademan> what version is breezy again? 5 or 4?
[07:32] <ShellMaza> that been my problem for about 6 hours
[07:32] <ShellMaza> 5.10
[07:32] <Ademan> damn
[07:32] <phenom> ShellMaza, I press CTRL+ALT+F1 but Gnome doesn't quit?
[07:32] <PreZ> how long does it take to install ubuntu, on average
[07:32] <Ademan> so theres no iso's for dapper yet
[07:32] <PreZ> at least to the point where one could boot off disk
[07:32] <jacksparrow> 'hi all
[07:32] <ShellMaza> no, then u have to type /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:33] <Ademan> PreZ: on a desktop maybe 15 minutes? like its REALLY quick
[07:33] <phenom> PreZ, I installed Ubuntu in about 30 minutes from format to finish
[07:33] <ShellMaza> ademan, yes their is, i just downloaded it
[07:33] <Ademan> on a laptop i still havent gotten it to work
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Dapper is Beta.  You can get preliminary release ISOs.  (I'm running it actually.)
[07:33] <ShellMaza> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[07:33] <Ademan> ShellMaza: link?
[07:33] <Ademan> ah
[07:33] <Ademan> ty :-)
[07:33] <ShellMaza> np
[07:33] <PreZ> ok, I'll install it on the train tomorrow ;)
[07:33] <Ademan> i can't for the life of me get ubuntu (or debian for that matter) to work on my laptop
[07:33] <PreZ> does it require a net connection to install?
[07:33] <phenom> ShellMaza, So I type "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" in a terminal while I'm in Gnome?
[07:33] <ShellMaza> no
[07:34] <eggzeck> phenom: and it all depends on your system too
[07:34] <PreZ> good
[07:34] <ShellMaza> after u press ctrl alt f1 and login as u or root
[07:34] <eggzeck> oops
[07:34] <eggzeck> I mean that for PreZ
[07:34] <Ademan> so yeah i'm hoping dapper will be my silver bullet for my laptop problems... is that just wishful thinking?
[07:34] <phenom> ShellMaza, My command prompt stated that "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" was not found?
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> PreZ: (You will have a load of updates the next time you connect though.)
[07:35] <ShellMaza> u have to press CTRL+ALT+F1, then login as root
[07:35] <ShellMaza> then do the command
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Not necessarily.  6 months gives time for a lot of improvements.
[07:35] <phenom> ShellMaza, I didnt get to choose a root username, would the default be root like on other Linux distros?
[07:35] <eggzeck> phenom: sudo passwd
[07:35] <eggzeck> phenom: that will set root password
[07:35] <eddiestone> does anybody knows the path of the file of the users info (such as username, password)
[07:36] <Ademan> tonyyarusso: man i hope so, because i've spent over a month trying to get this dump to work, so far the only linux i can get to run on that laptop is either ubuntu in single user mode or knoppix with "nopcmcia" boot option
[07:36] <eggzeck> phenom: then login as root with that password you just gave
[07:36] <phenom> eggzeck, Thank you!
[07:36] <eggzeck> phenom: np
[07:36] <phenom> Off to try
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: You can always try a live cd to find out.
[07:37] <Ademan> i suppose
[07:37] <ShellMaza> it should of asked you to login
[07:37] <ShellMaza> my bad, CTRL+ALT+F2
[07:37] <ShellMaza> tty1 is in use by X
[07:37] <ShellMaza> brb, installing dapper
[07:37] <Ademan> in my (very limited) experience, liveCDs act way differently than installs, even as far as compatibility
[07:37] <eddiestone> hello guys...
[07:37] <eddiestone> does anybody knows the path of the file of the users info (such as username, password)
[07:37] <eddiestone> ?
[07:38] <anethema> hey im installing breezy and ive got a highpoint rocketraid 1640
[07:39] <anethema> the chipset is supported, but it just shows the individual drives..not all as one raid drive like i wanted
[07:39] <anethema> is there a way to make the raid work? i dont wanna use linux's software md driver
[07:40] <anethema> anyone ? im stuck :(
[07:40] <Tomcat_> eddiestone: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[07:41] <eddiestone> thanks
[07:41] <eggzeck> anethema: I cannot help you with that, sorry.
[07:42] <Ademan> what's "text mode install" ? thats just installation using BIOS graphics right?
[07:42] <eddiestone> Tomcat_, do you know witch encrypt algorythm is used there?
[07:42] <Ademan> eddiestone: you're gettin shady now
[07:42] <Ademan> lol
[07:43] <dstryd> text mode install means you install using text mode
[07:43] <dstryd> it's text.
[07:43] <eddiestone> shady..
[07:43] <eddiestone> I think I dont got it...
[07:43] <Tomcat_> eddiestone: Nah, sorry.
[07:43] <jacksparrow> How can I get the 2.6.15-22-686 kernel source? Not only the kernel headers, I want to with apt the complette source
[07:43] <eggzeck> BIOS graphics?
[07:44] <eddiestone> ok man, thaks anyway
[07:44] <dstryd> heh
[07:44] <apathy> hey
[07:44] <apathy> anyone here know anythiong about ATI in linux?
[07:44] <Ademan> apathy: its pathetic
[07:44] <Ademan> thats all i know
[07:44] <apathy> lol
[07:44] <Ademan> 2 weeks to get fglrx up
[07:44] <Ademan> for me anyways
[07:45] <Ademan> i was n00bish though
[07:45] <Ademan> so i dunno
[07:45] <apathy> i just wanna have a tv as my secondary monitor
[07:45] <dstryd> ati in linux
[07:45] <dstryd> works.
[07:45] <Ademan> dstryd: barely
[07:45] <dstryd> Mine blazes.
[07:45] <eggzeck> Ademan: don't say such things
[07:45] <Ademan> well... i suppose by barely i mean i barely got it to work lol
[07:45] <eggzeck> apathy: I have an ATI Radeon 9250, took me about 40 mins to get working perfect
[07:45] <dstryd> heheh
[07:45] <dstryd> yeah i am running radeon 9200
[07:46] <dstryd> no problem
[07:46] <Ademan> eggzeck: you seem like a seasoned veteran though
[07:46] <apathy> so anyone have any ideas?could you help then egg?i have a 9000
[07:46] <dstryd> The documentation should cover it
[07:46] <ccc_> !ati
[07:46] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:46] <apathy> ...
[07:46] <eggzeck> your 9000 would work fine
[07:46] <mhs> hi
[07:46] <apathy> let me start fresh without any preconceptioons lol
[07:47] <eggzeck> Ademan: perhaps ;p
[07:47] <apathy> I am a windows based computer programmer
[07:47] <apathy> so absolutely nothing in linux makes sense so far
[07:47] <Ademan> i believe 8500 is the minimum for the current version of fglrx
[07:47] <Ademan> apathy: thats how I was
[07:47] <apathy> heh
[07:47] <Ademan> almost to a letter...
[07:47] <apathy> this is my backup box (from old parts)
[07:47] <eggzeck> apathy: read those, but you'll need to: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:48] <apathy> fglrx?
[07:48] <eggzeck> it's a driver
[07:48] <Ademan> its the driver
[07:48] <Ademan> yeah
[07:48] <apathy> will get right away
[07:48] <apathy> is that direct from terminal?
[07:48] <dstryd> si
[07:48] <eggzeck> yes
[07:48] <apathy> synaptic is confusing me atm
[07:48] <apathy> command based I get
[07:48] <apathy> brb
[07:48] <eggzeck> apathy: do that from terminal
[07:49] <Ademan> eggzeck: i hadta do a heck of a lot more than that (iirc fun stuff like uninstalling my current mesa packages and such) and then finish it all off with a healthy dose of Xorg reconfigure :-)
[07:49] <PreZ> hum, ubuntu update site is slow.  I'm only getting 1.7mbyte/s
[07:49] <amac> hmmm, cups seems broken =(
[07:49] <amac> usb printer doesn't seem to print properly anymore
[07:49] <eggzeck> Ademan: oh he will have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;)
[07:49] <apathy> couldnt find packages?
[07:50] <eggzeck> apathy: did you enable multiverse/universe in /etc/source.list?
[07:50] <Ademan> apathy: probably hafta enable extra repositories
[07:50] <Ademan> yeah
[07:50] <lavi> hi guys, which name of package contains a marco 'ATK_ROLE_ENTRY'? thank advance.
[07:50] <apathy> oh dear
[07:50] <apathy> i heard that one scream right over my head lol
[07:50] <eggzeck> apathy: don't let that scare you, just do this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <Ademan> eggzeck: i tried to do that and gave up, i was much happier letting Xorg guess what i had :-)
[07:50] <dstryd> "/exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:50] <lavi> someone tell me to install atk, but i dont konw which package need me install.
[07:51] <dstryd> maybe will be easier if you output your sources.list for him
[07:51] <eggzeck> lavi: if you're unsure, do this: apt-cache search atk
[07:51] <dstryd> so he can append to his
[07:51] <apathy> ok, now what do i edit in there?
[07:51] <dstryd> you need to add a couple lines
[07:51] <dstryd> 4 or so
[07:51] <dstryd> anyone got those lines offhand? i dont
[07:51] <lavi> eggzeck: i 've almost install all of relative package about atk.
[07:51] <Ademan> iirc there's a GUI that does the same thing :-)
[07:52] <lavi> however, it didnt work.
[07:52] <dstryd> let me try this
[07:52] <dstryd> !universe
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:52] <dstryd> there you go
[07:52] <dstryd> heh
[07:52] <eggzeck> apathy: take out any comments "#" from the beginning of any repository
[07:52] <eggzeck> !easysource
[07:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:52] <eggzeck> apathy: check that out
[07:52] <eggzeck> also :)
[07:53] <apathy> get rid of any #?
[07:53] <eggzeck> no
[07:53] <eggzeck> you didn't read my entire line
[07:53] <apathy> any quoted #
[07:53] <eggzeck> errr, just follow the link ubotu gave when dstryd did a !universe :)
[07:53] <dstryd> heheh
[07:54] <apathy> kk brb
[07:54] <Ademan> eggzeck: so the "text based installer" for dapper, thats the same as the installer i might have used for breezy right? just the good ol DOS looking text/colors ?
[07:54] <dstryd> yes
[07:54] <dstryd> text based
[07:54] <eddiestone> does anybody knows witch is the password encrypt algorithm of unix? (md5 or other)
[07:54] <dstryd> text, no graphics
[07:55] <dstryd> unix uses many encryption methods
[07:55] <eggzeck> eddiestone: yes, mkpasswd (I believe)
[07:55] <dstryd> it's up to you to decide what you want
[07:55] <eddiestone> i mean
[07:55] <spikeb> Ademan: yes
[07:55] <eddiestone> for user login
[07:55] <pvd2006> what was the !command you send to ubuto for video resolution help
[07:55] <eddiestone> eggzeck,  thanks, I will try
[07:55] <Ademan> dstryd: just making sure it wasnt like command line or something
[07:56] <eggzeck> eddiestone: you're trying to make an encrypted password?
[07:56] <orbin> ubotu: tell pvd2006 about fixres
[07:56] <dstryd> well it's prompted text menus
[07:56] <dstryd> so yeah i guess technically it's not command line
[07:56] <eggzeck> eddiestone: if so then: mkpasswd mypassword
[07:56] <[SEAWOLF] > hi all
[07:56] <apathy> ok, so the # is a comment symbol right? like /* in other languages
[07:56] <keithg> Hello, do any of you have any experience with easycam2, and camorama.  I use a logitech QuickCam Communicate STX.
[07:56] <eggzeck> eddiestone: that will spit out an encrypted password, for use in various ways, such as config files, etc/
[07:57] <eddiestone> eggzeck, no, Im trying to authenticate from a web-front end
[07:57] <dstryd> brb
[07:57] <eddiestone> I mean, Im trying to make a web page that authenticates
[07:57] <eggzeck> eddiestone: your information is minimal. And seems offtopic as well.
[07:58] <eddiestone> sorry
[07:58] <eddiestone> but isnt minimal. I asked just the encrypt algorithm. it isnt mkpasswd, but thanks anyway
[08:00] <highvoltage> what does 'germinate' mean in ubuntu?
[08:00] <highvoltage> does it have something to do with preseeding?
[08:00] <orbin> hmm, forums down?
[08:00] <orbin> nvm lol
[08:01] <satlan32> hi
[08:01] <satlan32> how do i add /usr/src/sipp to my PATH?
[08:01] <highvoltage> ah, it was more googlable than i thought :)
[08:01] <orbin> keithg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114429&highlight=quickcam+stx
[08:02] <apathy> eggzeck, I do hate to bother ya, I myself get impatient daily with noob-questions, but tweaking interpreted files isnt exactly a jump in and get going kinda thing
[08:02] <satlan32> ??
[08:02] <vineeth> satlan32:export PATH=$PATH:/usr/src/sipp
[08:02] <pvd2006> whats the best way to completely remove all of open office
[08:03] <eggzeck> apathy: example: # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[08:03] <vineeth> satlan32:in ur bashrc file
[08:03] <eggzeck> apathy: the "#" means it is not enabled, if I remove it, it will be enabled.
[08:03] <apathy> ok ill ponder the syntax
[08:03] <apathy> so as I said, the # is a comment notation
[08:03] <eggzeck> yes it is
[08:03] <apathy> gotcha
[08:03] <satlan32> whiuch one /root/.bashrc?
[08:03] <eggzeck> I didn't see you say that sorry
[08:04] <apathy> np
[08:04] <vineeth> satlan: what ever account u use
[08:04] <nickrud> pvd2006, in aptitudes interactive mode, type l~openoffice_gg (limit display to packages with openoffice in the name, mark for purging, go check you got the right packages, go do it)
[08:04] <satlan32> how to do that?
[08:04] <satlan32> i can't open it
[08:05] <vineeth> satlan32:u mean u can't open ur .bashrc ? or root's ?
[08:05] <acke_____> hey i only have a bluetooth keyboard for my mac mini. I would want to run ubuntu live cd. but it seems as if it is not possible?
[08:05] <satlan32> the .bashrc
[08:06] <vineeth> satlan32:the bashrc in ur home directory ?
[08:06] <jmoncayo> good night
[08:06] <satlan32> thats what i saw in locate bashrc
[08:07] <eggzeck> acke_____: you have to be sure that the cd is for PPC, AND the bluetooth keyboard idea isn't good ;)
[08:07] <pvd2006> nickrud, woa
[08:07] <nickrud> :)
[08:07] <pvd2006> I think i deleted some stuff I shouldnt have
[08:07] <pvd2006> lol
[08:07] <vineeth> satlan32:if a .bashrc file does not exist in ur home directory, try editing system wide bashrc at /etc/bash.bashrc
[08:07] <vineeth> satlan32;sudo it ofcourse
[08:07] <acke_____> egg, its ppc. and yeah no wired keyboards in tha house
[08:07] <satlan32> ??
[08:07] <nickrud> pvd2006, if you didn't do the check, you also dropped ubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <eggzeck> acke_____: so I recommend you wait until you get a wired one.
[08:08] <vineeth> satlan32:u have a .bashrc file in ur home directory ??
[08:08] <dell500> anyone here know hwo to convert from MPC to MP3?
[08:08] <pvd2006> how do you check>?
[08:08] <graft> it's against the law to use 'u' to mean 'you', vineeth
[08:08] <hastesaver> satlan32, better yet, create it in your home directory if it doesn't exist. Not safe to mess around with system files unless you know what you're doing
[08:08] <graft> you should spell it out
[08:08] <nickrud> pvd2006, after the first g , all the packages you marked for purging were displayed
[08:08] <vineeth> graft:ok, am new to this
[08:08] <vineeth> graft:sorry
[08:08] <satlan32> can you send example file please?
[08:08] <acke_____> egg, thanks
[08:09] <nickrud> pvd2006, also any side effects
[08:09] <satlan32> i'm new to ubuntu and linux
[08:09] <graft> vineeth: i am yanking your chain. but still you should spell it out
[08:09] <pvd2006> nickrud:  whoops how can I go back and find out which ones I deleted
[08:09] <hastesaver> satlan32, what exactly do you want to do? Add something your path, that's it right?
[08:09] <nickrud> pvd2006, /var/log/aptitude has a record of your changes
[08:09] <vineeth> satlan32:okay prob do this
[08:09] <satlan32> yep
[08:09] <vineeth> satlan32:cd ~
[08:10] <vineeth> cat >> /etc/.bashrc
[08:10] <vladuz976> I am trying to stip of a bunch of "^T" form a file i using sed 's/^T//g' file > newfile but doesn't do anything, can someone help?
[08:10] <vineeth> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/sipp
[08:10] <dell500> anyone here know hwo to convert from MPC to MP3?
[08:10] <graft> vladuz976: yeah, use ctrl-v
[08:10] <nickrud> vladuz976, try 's/\^T//g
[08:10] <pvd2006> nickrud: so now I have to go back and add each of these manually right?
[08:10] <graft> vladuz976: instead of typing out ^T, hit ctrl-v,ctrl-t
[08:11] <satlan32> ok
[08:11] <vladuz976> graft: what does that do?
[08:11] <hastesaver> satlan32, type Ctrl-D after that :)
[08:11] <satlan32> it's not back to PROMPT yes
[08:11] <graft> vladuz976: it inserts an escape character
[08:11] <satlan32> ok :)
[08:11] <satlan32> now..?
[08:11] <vladuz976> graft: oh is that what ^Tt is?
[08:11] <hastesaver> satlan32, type "echo $PATH"
[08:11] <nickrud> pvd2006, was ubuntu-desktop one of them? if so, just reinstall that it'll pull everything back in
[08:11] <graft> vladuz976: i'm assuming... if it's a single character
[08:12] <satlan32> path = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/src/sipp
[08:12] <hastesaver> satlan32, er wait. First do "source .bashrc", then echo $PATH
[08:12] <satlan32> done
[08:12] <vineeth> satlan32:you will get it everytime you get a login shell :)
[08:12] <vladuz976> graft: would you know what this is "<80>" or "^H"
[08:13] <varsendagger> hey i am making a web site, and i want to mouse over an area and then have a picture come up.... how do i do that?
[08:13] <vladuz976> graft: i have this dos file with a bunch of italic letters that i want to convert into a latex file
[08:13] <hastesaver> satlan32, do echo $PATH and see if /usr/bin/sipp is listed, just to be sure
[08:13] <satlan32> yep it's there
[08:13] <eggzeck> varsendagger: that is way offtopic
[08:13] <hastesaver> varsendagger, out of the scope of this channel. (Look up DHTML or something)
[08:13] <graft> vladuz976: what kind of file is it?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger: OT, but javascript, onmouseover.
[08:14] <varsendagger> Cool
[08:14] <satlan32> great thanks hastesaver
[08:15] <vladuz976> graft: it came from dos, i'll show you.http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jMP5Wd74.html
[08:16] <apathy> omfg.... it worked haha
[08:16] <Xyloc> Hello everyone
[08:16] <graft> vladuz976: um... not very long, you could just open it in vim and delete that stuff
[08:16] <apathy> I actuall made the console do something beside spit errors haha
[08:16] <vladuz976> graft: that was just part it's about 900 pages
[08:16] <vladuz976> graft: over 23 chapters
[08:16] <apathy> eggzeck, you still here?
[08:17] <graft> vladuz976: ah... hm
[08:17] <graft> vladuz976: what's the original format?
[08:17] <Xyloc> Could someone help me with configuring sudo?
[08:18] <apathy> ok, ima reboot and see if that helped