[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> kikokos: looks from that you have region and / or language problems with that particular dvd
[11:36] <pppoe_dude> !ext3 > llvllatrix
[11:36] <llvllatrix> Sl[a] sh: Wierd, I'm looking into it.
[11:36] <EdgeT> zorba64: that sux dude
[11:36] <beagleisevil> !apt > beagleisevil
[11:36] <com4> I just installed edgy on my system and when i use vlc to play a video file, it opens 4 windows. 1 of them looks normal, the other 3 say "xvideo output" and have no menus or controls. how do i fix this?
[11:36] <Bizzy> hey, does ubuntu 6.10 support the ralink rt2500 wireless chipset?
[11:37] <MrKeuner> hi, which application was it that was adding encrypt and decrypt to nautilus context menu?
[11:37] <beagleisevil> Bizzy, via ndiswrapper ?
[11:37] <savvas> is it true that jigdo can help keep iso images updated?
[11:37] <pppoe_dude> MrKeuner, maybe seahorse?
[11:37] <Sl[a] sh> the whole screen says something along these lines: Busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)
[11:37] <Sl[a] sh> then enter 'help' for a list of built in commands..
[11:37] <jzzat> does anyone know a 16bit pcmcia to ethernet adapter ?
[11:37] <duckdown> Hi all, 'nmap localhost' is showing ports 631 (ipp) and 5432 (postgres) running.  How can I kill these now, and disable them for good
[11:37] <LjL> !seahorse | MrKeuner
[11:38] <ubotu> seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1560 kB, installed size 5528 kB
[11:38] <ianmacgregor> MrKeuner: Seahorse can do that.
[11:38] <jmichaelx> you can compile a rt2500 driver.... but i think that lupine_85 has a repo with preconfiled ralink drivers..
[11:38] <kikokos> pppoe nothing I`ll se the same info
[11:38] <Bizzy> jmichaelx: im looking for one that works with a dual core cpu with smp on
[11:38] <pppoe_dude> duckdown, cupsd usually only listens on local ports
[11:38] <kikokos> in vlc but in totem when I click "open dvd" it open my cd-rom not a film
[11:38] <zorba64> savvas: with some yes...alternate and server...yes. desktop..no
[11:38] <pppoe_dude> duckdown, on the local interfaces i mean...
[11:39] <Bizzy> ones i had before said i can have wireless, with 1 core, or no wireless, with 2 cores
[11:39] <llvllatrix> Sl[a] sh: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/173
[11:39] <kuonSama> duckdown: /etc/init.d/postgres stop then remove the init script link in /etc/rcx.d
[11:40] <Sl[a] sh> thanks llvll
[11:40] <kikokos> has anybody suggest about this: http://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?p=85331#85331
[11:40] <tarelerulz> I used the cd ripper that came with ubuntu and it showed to be ripping ,but when I look into the folder and I found nothing
[11:40] <llvllatrix> Sl[a] sh: Looks like hard drive problems
[11:40] <juliano> what's the command to change the owner of a folder and all of its subfolders?
[11:41] <ianmacgregor> chown -R
[11:41] <llvllatrix> juliano: chown -R user:user folder
[11:41] <juliano> tks
[11:41] <juliano> user 2 times?
[11:41] <duckdown> pppoe_dude, kuonSama thanks, let me try
[11:41] <kikokos> pppoe have u any suggestions?
[11:41] <llvllatrix>  juliano: Technically chown -R user:group folder
[11:42] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know of any good cd ripping programs
[11:42] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: So formatting's the only way of conversion? :(
[11:42] <juliano> oh ok
[11:42] <juliano> tks
[11:42] <llvllatrix>  juliano: man chown for more details
[11:42] <savvas> zorba64: you read my mind: why not desktop? :\
[11:42] <zorba64> tarelerulz: grip works 4 me
[11:42] <pkh> Can someone recommend a good vpn-style encrypted proxy service that will work under ubuntu and also windows xp?
[11:42] <kuonSama> pkh a vpn style proxy?
[11:43] <yock> For anyone watching the tech news, there's a press conference occurring right now about the Microsoft/Novell partnership
[11:43] <yock> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/bradsmith/default.mspx
[11:43] <yock> er
[11:43] <yock> http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html
[11:43] <pkh> kuonSama, not sure what it's called.  a company that offers secure connection to their servers and all traffic is redirected from their out to the destination
[11:43] <yock> There
[11:43] <zorba64> savvas: desktop cd is a big squashfs filesystem, the other ones have the packages in directories so can be updates
[11:43] <savvas> zorba64: i also digged out the install/live dvd, is that the same as desktop version?
[11:43] <Spawn> Hello everyone.
[11:43] <kuonSama> pkh: you can use ssh or l2tp
[11:43] <pkh> kuonSama, their isp has issues when they log into password'd sites (asks for pasword every page refresh, different ip's, etc.)
[11:43] <zorba64> savvas: yep the live=desktop
[11:43] <savvas> cool!
[11:44] <pkh> kuonSama, I've got enough work to do, wanted to pay for an external service rather than configure another server ourselves...
[11:44] <kuonSama> pkh: ssh is the simplest (you put a squid on the remote server, you ssh to it, and on your local machine, you set the local forwarded port as proxy)
[11:44] <duckdown> Is 'nmap localhost' the best way to ensure all my services are stopped/closed and nobody has anything malicious running on my machine?   Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:46] <EdgeT> cyas laters
[11:46] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT,
[11:46] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: thnks a lot dude:)
[11:46] <yock> fignew: only time will tell
[11:46] <jaa6c6> I am getting an error 17 when booting a raid 5 drive with grub, ne1 know a fix?
[11:46] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, you can use dd to easily copy a partition
[11:46] <kuonSama> pkh: transparent proxy allow you to do no change to your clients, but it's quite hard to setup if you have no idea.
[11:46] <pkh> kuonSama, I've configured vpn before (many years) but we're absolutely run off our feet and I don't want to add to my workload if I can avoid it :)
[11:46] <fignew> if I understand, he's making it seem like running non-suse linux is illegal
[11:46] <kuonSama> pkh: proxy has nothing to do with vpn, you just tunnel the packet to the proxy
[11:47] <duckdown> Agrajag> thanks man
[11:47] <kuonSama> vpn is one part, proxy is the other
[11:47] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: yeah but that was my backup, i don't have any hdd that'd be big enough
[11:47] <yock> Well, Non-Suse Linux that has MS Proprietary technology would be illegal
[11:47] <Bizzy> ok, so, if i install ubuntu over 3 partitions /boot swap and / , as primary partitions 0 1 and 2, to take up 120 or so gb then have primary part 3 as another 120gb would i be able to run windows xp from that, if my bios doesnt like booting past 2gb ?
[11:47] <kuonSama> an other solution is to use a web based ssl proxy
[11:47] <LjL> kikokos, i haven't a clue
[11:47] <yock> That beings Mono under the microscope
[11:47] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, too bad then :P hope you figure it out
[11:47] <llvllatrix> yock: Violate the GPL, no?
[11:47] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, try tarring and gzipping the whole thing...
[11:47] <pkh> kuonSama, that might be sufficient -- was hoping for full vpn but simple web-based would probably solve our immediate problem
[11:47] <brynk> ok, my last attempt to get an epson aculaser c1100 printing in edgy, anyone?
[11:47] <kuonSama> you go to https://www.myproxy.com, then you type a webaddress, and the page is loaded by the remote site, encrypted and sent to you
[11:47] <Kyral> Actually....MS would be breaking the GPL
[11:48] <Kyral> the Linux Kernel is under the GPL no?
[11:48] <ephesius> does anyone know how to convert a flash video file to ogg or avi or something?
[11:48] <yock> llvllatrix: I don't know. If Mono violates .NET patents, then the GPL is null and void for Mono, since it wasn't their technology to license in the first place.
[11:48] <jaa6c6> I am getting an error 17 when booting a raid 5 drive with grub, ne1 know a fix?
[11:48] <kuonSama> pkh: I don't have name of software that can do that in mind, but it's an easy and working solution
[11:48] <llvllatrix> Kyral: I tink no
[11:48] <JosefK> yay :) anyone who fancies some decent eye-candy, install and add gnome-main-menu to your panel ^^
[11:48] <Kyral> and the GPL forbids linking with non-GPL complient things
[11:48] <llvllatrix>  Kyral: *I think so
[11:48] <kikokos> LjL :) if U don`t know nobody does
[11:49] <Bizzy> GPL is a very hypocritical licence
[11:49] <yock> Kyral: which we all violate by running Firefox anywayt
[11:49] <kuonSama> pkh: a simple php script that replace all url in the source page with something like https://www.myproxy.com/?get=http...
[11:49] <Kyral> yock: I run Konq :D
[11:49] <Bizzy> claims to be all about freedom, yet tells you what you can and cant do with your own source
[11:49] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: i'd need to lose 27gb to be able to copy it
[11:49] <yock> Kyral: Indeed, do you use Apache?
[11:49] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, you might
[11:49] <pkh> kuonSama, just went to myproxy.com --> got DongMun.org
[11:49] <pkh>  and nothing else...
[11:49] <Kyral> yock: The Apache License is GPL complient
[11:49] <Ych> can i just move around the bootloaders in the menu.lst of my GRUB to change the order, and change which boot is default?
[11:49] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, if theres a lot of movies and music then probably not, otherwise theres a good chance
[11:49] <yock> Is it? Since when?
[11:49] <kuonSama> pkh: www.myproxy.com was an example
[11:49] <bruenig> certain commands such as using sed (sed whatever file > newfile) won't work if I just put sudo at the beginning of the command (I assume because it not only does its normal editing of the file but then also writes the new file as the error says that I don't have permission to write the new file) If I use sudo su and then do the command it works fine. Is there anyway to make it work with sudo and not have to summon a root termin
[11:49] <bruenig> al?
[11:50] <pkh> kuonSama, sorry, just hit it directly :)
[11:50] <kuonSama> pkh: you must create that website, put it on a server, enable ssl ...
[11:50] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, gzip compressed 400mb of random files to about 200 once for me
[11:50] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: well i got quite a "lil" collection of music lol, 34gbs
[11:50] <Char_Aznable> hi
[11:50] <EdgeT> gb*
[11:50] <Bizzy> pppoe_dude: try lzma
[11:50] <yock> the GPL is too restrictive for real-world application, IMHO, but a lot of people love the idealism.
[11:50] <jaa6c6> GB?
[11:50] <jaa6c6> or gb? :)
[11:50] <LjL> kikokos, heh, it's not like i know everything there is to know about ubuntu - hardly even close :P
[11:50] <EdgeT> gb:p
[11:50] <Char_Aznable> can someone help me answer a question :D
[11:50] <boink> !ask
[11:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:51] <Char_Aznable> k :D
[11:51] <fignew> from osnews.com :" As part of the agreement, Microsoft also promises not to wield its patent portfolio against SUSE Linux."
[11:51] <fignew> thus telling me
[11:51] <llvllatrix> fignew: lol
[11:51] <Char_Aznable> how do i know if i installed the desktop version or the server version?
[11:51] <fignew> that running any other version of linux puts you at risk.
[11:51] <boink> does X start?
[11:51] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: nice but i got too much media for gzip to compress
[11:51] <Bizzy> no
[11:51] <Bizzy> what it says is
[11:51] <jaa6c6> Anyone know anything about getting grub to boot a raid 5 disk? I get an ERROR 17
[11:51] <Spawn> can someone help me out with the ati driver.  I have an x300 Mobility .. I installed the dirvers but it keeps giving me the mesa openGL
[11:51] <bruenig> Char_Aznable, do you have a desktop or do you just get a black and white command prompt?
[11:51] <kuonSama> pkh: so the solutions you got are: webpage ssl proxy (only http), ssh link or l2tp (need configuration on every single machine for vpn and proxy) to a server that will forward to a squid (you can proxy email, http...), you setup a site to site vpn, and put a proxy on the remote site or finaly, you setup a site to site vpn with transparent proxy
[11:51] <Kyral> hmm
[11:51] <Char_Aznable> desktop
[11:51] <bipolar> Bizzy: the GPL does not tell you what you can do with your own source. if it's your code, then you can do whatever you want with it. But if you give it to someone else under the GPL, you can't take it back from them. thats all.
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> The Microsoft/Novell stuff is off-topic for this Ubuntu support channel. can we take it elsewhere please?
[11:51] <bruenig> Char_Aznable, then desktop
[11:51] <yock> fignew: Running other versions of Linux that contain Microsoft patent violations, sure.
[11:51] <boink> desktop = ubuntu desktop
[11:51] <Char_Aznable> o
[11:52] <EdgeT> pppoe_dude: well thnks anyways dude, and cyas ppl:)
[11:52] <pppoe_dude> EdgeT, no prob
[11:52] <boink> the server version has no graphics
[11:52] <Char_Aznable> doh, i downloaded the wrong version..
[11:52] <fignew> yock: ms patents are so broad though
[11:52] <kalosaurusre1> anyone have any experience with pyqt?
[11:52] <pkh> kuonSama, thanks.  am going to have a good look around and see what suits us best.
[11:52] <kikokos> LjL maybe I shouldn`t touch my computer :P
[11:52] <drivera90> yaaay
[11:52] <yock> fignew: all patents are broad
[11:52] <kuonSama> pkh: on the long term, I think site to site vpn with a squid on the remote site is the best one, if you have a lot of machine (like a university) you can use transparent proxy
[11:52] <Kyral> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndNonfreeOnSameMachine
[11:52] <Bizzy> bipolar: if i licence my code under GPL, then link it myself to non-gpl compat code... im violating my own code
[11:52] <Char_Aznable> thanks.
[11:52] <Kyral> I was wroing
[11:52] <fredo> hello
[11:52] <bipolar> Bizzy: um... no.
[11:52] <drivera90> It took about two months, but my shipit CDs made it
[11:52] <fredo> des frenchy
[11:52] <fredo> ??
[11:52] <aaron_> I'm having a problem with DVD playback in edgy.... Using Beta Nvidia drivers
[11:52] <Kyral> LINKING is different than running alongside
[11:52] <drivera90> :D
[11:52] <kuonSama> pkh: transparent proxy redirect the http packet, even if the browser is not configured with a proxy
[11:52] <bipolar> Bizzy: you can't distribute it, thats all
[11:52] <Bizzy> if i install ubuntu over 3 partitions /boot swap and / , as primary partitions 0 1 and 2, to take up 120 or so gb then have primary part 3 as another 120gb would i be able to run windows xp from that, if my bios doesnt like booting past 2gb ?
[11:53] <kuonSama> pkh: transparent proxy can be handy, but they are a pain to get right.
[11:53] <Bizzy> bipolar: so, its telling me what i can and cant do
[11:53] <Kyral> You CAN'T use GNU Readline in an application that isn't GPL-Complient
[11:53] <pkh> kuonSama, no, quite the oposite -- one person in S.A. and no-one else with any problems...
[11:53] <fredo> joins #ubuntu-fr
[11:53] <bipolar> Bizzy: no, it's telling you what you can't do with someone elses code.
[11:53] <demo45> hola
[11:53] <jaa6c6> Anyone know anything about getting grub to boot a raid 5 disk? I get an ERROR 17
[11:53] <Kyral> but you CAN run something like the Linux Kernel alongside Non-Free
[11:53] <Spawn> can soneone help me out with my ati drivers.. I already installed the drivers but the openGL has the mesa project instead of the ati
[11:53] <kikokos> hola
[11:53] <demo45> alguien de colombia
[11:53] <kuonSama> Kyral: you can use rlwrap
[11:54] <kikokos> no yo soy polacco
[11:54] <aaron_> anyone have DVD problems with Nvidia beta/Edgy?
[11:54] <Kyral> Bizzy: I should warn you, I am an Associate Member of the FSF, getting into a license fight with me is inviting a flamewar :D
[11:54] <bipolar> Kyral: educate, don't flame :)
[11:54] <Trent__> Hey!
[11:54] <kuonSama> Kyral: sorry, I thought it was a technical discussion:P
[11:54] <Char_Aznable> o 1 more thing, is the setup disc the same for server/desktop?
[11:54] <Trent__> Gimme some help over here
[11:54] <kuonSama> Kyral: and I missread
[11:54] <bipolar> Kyral: his thoughts are a common misconception
[11:54] <Kyral> Indeed
[11:54] <Bizzy> Kyral: and as an active open source developer who thinks the GPL is a total load of hypocritical bullshit, as are you :P
[11:55] <Trent__> Anyone know how I can get the files from my Windows partition over to my Ubuntu???
[11:55] <Kyral> ....
[11:55] <Kyral> someone kick him
[11:55] <kuonSama> Trent__: ntfs or fa?
[11:55] <bipolar> Bizzy: thats uncalled for
[11:55] <Trent__>  About 9 GB btw
[11:55] <kuonSama> *fat
[11:55] <Trent__> kuonSama: NTFS
[11:55] <kuonSama> Trent__: to read ntfs no problem
[11:55] <Kyral> (And not for calling the GPL a load of hypcritical BS, but for calling me one)
[11:55] <kuonSama> Trent__: to write ntfs, support is still beta, and you need fuse tools
[11:55] <Bizzy> bipolar: am i not alowd to voice my own opinion?
[11:55] <kuonSama> Trent__: do you need to write?
[11:55] <Trent__> kuonSama: great... so how do I get it done?
[11:55] <demo45> hola
[11:55] <kikokos> trent u dont see your win partition?
[11:55] <Kyral> Bizzy: Attacking someone personally, no way
[11:55] <bipolar> Bizzy: sure. but don't insult people
[11:55] <Bizzy> no, i said your in for a flamewar
[11:56] <Trent__> kuonSama: No, I just need to read the files
[11:56] <kikokos> trent as hda1
[11:56] <Trent__> kikokos: no I don't... am I supposed to?
[11:56] <Bizzy> i guess i worded what i wrote, wrongly
[11:56] <jaa6c6> Anyone know anything about getting grub to boot a raid 5 disk? I get an ERROR 17 :(
[11:56] <kuonSama> Trent__: ok simply do mount /dev/yourdevice /mnt
[11:56] <bruenig> voice your own opinions? what do you think this is? a liberal democracy?
[11:56] <kuonSama> Trent__: but ubuntu should mount it automaticaly to /media
[11:56] <Kyral> You can voice your opinions
[11:56] <ianmacgregor> Offtopic chat needs to go to another channel. This is an Ubuntu support channel.
[11:56] <Bizzy> GPL is ....., as are you... where as are you refaired to what Kyral said to me, Kyral is in for a flameware with me
[11:56] <Kyral> Just don't attack users personally
[11:56] <bipolar> Bizzy: The only problem I see is your gross misunderstanding of the GPL
[11:57] <Kyral> Bizzy: Then what license do you use?
[11:57] <Ropechoborra> !webcam
[11:57] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:57] <Bizzy> MIT/old BSD
[11:57] <jaa6c6> !raid5
[11:57] <Trent__> kuonSama, kikokos, lemme switch over to ubuntu one sec plz and thanks fro your help so far
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raid5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <jaa6c6> :(
[11:57] <maxflax> anybody having knowledge about LIRC.. I have compiled and made a Make install.. I've modprobe both lirc_dev and lirc_imon and they loaded without errors. now what. how do I start the display?
[11:57] <kikokos> ok:)
[11:57] <jaa6c6> Anyone know anything about getting grub to boot a raid 5 disk? I get an ERROR 17 :(
[11:57] <Spawn> can someone explain to me how can I fix my driver problem?  It says mesa project instead of fglrx ati driver
[11:57] <jaa6c6> no one have ne experiece in raid5 and grub area?
[11:57] <kuonSama> maxflax: I'm sure you will find many help in the doc
[11:58] <tarelerulz> I do trent
[11:58] <kikokos> can somebody tell me what I should to do : http://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?p=85331#85331 here is my log
[11:58] <morgue> I was running something with Wine, I minimized it and now it's not on the task bar, how can I get it back?
[11:58] <maxflax> kuonSama, the doc blows.. I've read it. it says nothing.. crap is it
[11:58] <bipolar> Bizzy: if you want anyone to do anything with your code without requireing them to give back to the project in any way then that licence is fine. It's your choice. But when I write software I don't want that, so I use the GPL. Calling the GPL hypocritical becouse it won't let you use MY code in YOUR Bsd/Mit licenced project is not fair.
[11:59] <LjL> !offtopic | bipolar
[11:59] <ubotu> bipolar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:59] <maxflax> kuonSama, its the most nonsaying doc I've ever read.. the writer should be shot
[11:59] <Bizzy> bipolar: asking gets you further than telling
[11:59] <kuonSama> maxflax: I suggest you subscribe to lirc mailing list then
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> jaa6c6: don't use raid 5 myself but you might find this usefull: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230306
[11:59] <kuonSama> maxflax: because it's not really an ubuntu related question
[11:59] <tarelerulz> Ubuntu auto mounts stuff like exteral usb drives it would not mount I think the windows partition
[11:59] <meheren> using network tools how do i get my real ip address not the one that my router assinged me the one that other servers around the world see me as?
[12:00] <kuonSama> tarelerulz: it ask at install to do so
[12:00] <maxflax> kuonSama, Im installing it on a ubuntu.. so I think it's related :)
[12:00] <kuonSama> meheren: www.whatismyip.com
[12:00] <kooldeep> maxflax: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LIRC#Hardware_specific_instructions has some good instructions
[12:00] <tarelerulz> I guess I did not read that part
[12:00] <tarelerulz> haha
[12:00] <DanSchnell> Can I make a partition from the alternate cd?
[12:00] <meheren> kuonSama.... ok not really my question but thx it will work :p
[12:00] <VanessaE> yes, Dan.


[01:42] <smoser> adam_g, around ?
[04:24] <adam_g> smoser: hey
[12:58] <jsingh> smoser I am deploying the image from Eucalyptus cloud , using UEC lucid 64 bit image
[13:13] <jsingh> connection reset by peer while logging into an ubuntu image why ?
[13:20] <jsingh> smoser is there a eucalyptus specific image i can try


[22:40] <MagicFab> komputes ping
[22:55] <Chex> komputes: pong
[23:48] <komputes> MagicFab: Chex: you guys playing ping-pong without me?
[23:49] <komputes> Gotta run. MagicFab, got your email and will be looking into it.
[23:49] <komputes> ciao qc


[14:04] <SuMarDi> clear
[14:04] <SuMarDi> eh silap window
[17:07] <star39_> hello all
[17:40] <fairuz> hello
[17:50] <jemparing> anyone going to hwkl today?


[10:09] <azm> does someone get flash artifacts after flash ?
[10:09] <azm> I have to reboot pc to dismiss it
[10:14] <ailo__> azm, What system are you on?
[10:14] <azm> ailo__, ubuntu studio
[10:14] <ailo__> azm, Which version. 10.04, 10.10?
[10:15] <azm> lastest
[10:15] <azm> 10.10
[10:15] <ailo__> azm, Natty?
[10:15] <ailo__> Ok
[10:15] <ailo__> I never had that. What kind of graphic card do you have?
[10:16] <azm> nividia quadro NVS 140M
[10:19] <ailo__> azm: Have you tried any 3d, openGL applications on it for a while? Is everything else working fine? Only flash fgives you problems?
[10:20] <azm> ailo__, yea it seems like its flash restricted, but have to say I only tried blender
[10:20] <azm> also quake live works fine
[10:21] <ailo__> My graphic cards have all died pretty fast, but I used to play a lot of 3d games in the past. One thing that would happen was that 3d games graphics would get corrupted, but regular Desktop graphics was fine
[10:22] <ailo__> azm, Have you tried Gnash? Would that work for you?
[10:23] <azm> uh,gnash was unusable last time I checked
[10:23] <azm> but it was quite an awhile
[10:25] <azm> I can see the 8.9 version was just released
[10:25] <azm> I could try it
[10:31] <ailo> azm, Where do the artifacts appear btw? The toplevel of the screen, so it blocks everything else?
[10:31] <azm> ailo, well it can be seen only If I drag white space on it
[10:31] <azm> if its dark it cannot be seen
[10:32] <azm> so eg If I watch movie the white spaces are filled with flash video stuck somewhere in bacground normally invisible on my dark workspace
[10:32] <azm> *background
[10:33] <ailo> Evenly all over the screen?
[10:34] <azm> nope, it depends how big was the initial flash video
[10:34] <azm> its exactly same size
[10:34] <azm> if it is small ad then it appears on the same position as the ad
[10:35] <ailo> But it's opacified? You can see through it?
[10:36] <ailo> Or, the other way around. I'm not sure about that term.
[10:36] <azm> it is not
[10:36] <azm> I cant see thru it
[10:36] <azm> it as picture
[10:37] <ailo> I would guess it is somehow related to the hardware, or the drivers. It doesn't sound like anything I've seen happen before
[10:38] <ailo> I guess you could try installing another version of Ubuntu on another partition, or another OS even, to see if it changes.
[10:40] <ailo> Unless you added something to the Desktop graphics, like some custom Compiz thing
[10:41] <azm> nope no effects
[10:41] <azm> well its not big deal
[10:41] <azm> most of the time it works
[10:41] <azm> it not reproducible it seems
[10:41] <ailo> I guess it could be a bug in the drivers that only affects flash flashplayer
[10:41] <azm> possibly
[10:42] <azm> Im using proprietary so I could switch to open source drivers
[15:01] <holstein> azm: ive seen artifacts
[15:02] <holstein> on PPC buntu
[15:02] <holstein> and some other janky half-supported video hardware
[15:02] <holstein> flash is a dog
[15:02] <holstein> but my money is on the graphics drivers
[15:05] <azm> holstein, have you tried gnash?
[15:05] <azm> if it is usable
[15:06] <holstein> azm: at that time
[15:06] <holstein> and probably still
[15:06] <holstein> that was the only option for flash in PPC
[15:06] <holstein> was kinda if-y back then
[15:06] <holstein> but, i avoid flash succesfully 80% of the time :)
[15:07] <azm> yea, maybe they get better now
[15:07] <azm> well I cant avoid flash if I want to watch youtube
[15:07] <azm> and vimeo
[15:08] <holstein> you can contact them
[15:08] <holstein> and suggest they use another format ;)
[15:08] <azm> html5
[20:00] <mlpug> things went well as far as I dealt with time signatures 4/4 only
[20:01] <mlpug> now my track is 6/8 and I cant get things right so that hydrogen and rosegarden are aligned and scores outputted from rosegarden would make sense
[21:51] <esox> Hello, herre is my problem : I'm using ingen and the midi in/out of ingen appear under the MII tab of jack, all other software/hardware MIDI in/out are under the ALSA tab... how to connect those 2 stuf ?


[15:13] <cjwatson> evand: heads-up: there is a fairly decent chance of my grub-installer merge breaking something, so watch out ...
[15:16] <evand> ok
[15:24] <cjwatson> I've uploaded os-prober 1.23 to Debian, and we should be able to sync that once it's ready
[15:25] <evand> great
[16:30] <thom> cjwatson: hey, is the installation guide for 7.10 online anywhere? i can't see it on help.ubuntu.com
[17:33] <cjwatson> thom: I don't think so - I need to prod mdke to publish it
[17:33] <cjwatson> thom: it's in the installation-guide-i386 (etc.) package in gutsy though
[17:35] <thom> ahah
[17:37] <mshadle> cjwatson: is there any way to delay the booting of a CD? when the kernel first loads it seems like it can't find the cdrom. but maybe ~ 10 seconds after it tells me "Cannot load the cdrom" i can press enter and it goes along its merry way
[17:37] <cjwatson> mshadle: are you using Kickstart?
[17:37] <mshadle> yup
[17:38] <cjwatson> are you loading a Kickstart file from the CD?
[17:38] <mshadle> yeah.
[17:38] <cjwatson> mshadle: it would be useful to know if it behaves differently if you're loading a Kickstart file from the network instead
[17:38] <mshadle> LABEL install
[17:38] <mshadle>   menu label ^Install lvs01
[17:38] <mshadle>   kernel /install/vmlinuz
[17:38] <mshadle>   append  file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed initrd=/install/initrd.gz ks=cdrom:/ks-lvs01.cfg
[17:38] <mshadle> DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text pci=routeirq acpi=off noapic --
[17:38] <cjwatson> either way, please file a bug on the kickseed package
[17:39] <cjwatson> it's not straightforward to "delay" loading the CD, but that's also not really the real problem IMO ...
[17:40] <mshadle> it's like a chicken and egg
[17:41] <mshadle> it's kinda funky and it happens only on remote machines i can't really keep reformatting/trying out
[17:41] <cjwatson> thing is, the hardware detection component is already supposed to wait until everything's settled down
[17:43] <mshadle> here's my seed
[17:43] <mshadle> # Always install the server kernel.
[17:43] <mshadle> d-i     base-installer/kernel/override-image    string linux-server
[17:43] <mshadle> # Only install basic language packs. Let tasksel ask about tasks.
[17:43] <mshadle> d-i     pkgsel/language-pack-patterns   string
[17:43] <mshadle> # No language support packages.
[17:43] <mshadle> d-i     pkgsel/install-language-support boolean false
[17:43] <mshadle> d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential
[17:43] <mshadle> popularity-contest popularity-contest/participate boolean false
[17:43] <mshadle> # Avoid that last message about the install being complete.
[17:43] <mshadle> d-i finish-install/reboot_in_progress note
[17:43] <mshadle> dont know if any of that helps :p
[17:43] <mshadle> so does your kickstart really just map to d-i stuff
[17:46] <evand> yes, the kickstart settings are translated into debconf settings.
[17:46] <cjwatson> the preseed file is not relevant
[17:46] <cjwatson> (to your problem)
[19:59] <evand> cjwatson: releases.ubuntu.com says the memory requirement for the desktop CD is 320 MB, but isolinux says it's 384 MB.  The latter is correct, right?
[20:01] <evand> I'm looking to correct http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition which says 256 MB.
[22:14]  * Lrrr randomly pokes cjwatson
[22:20] <Lrrr> Away.  Not that it wasn't unexpected.
[22:22] <Lrrr> cjwatson: I just had a quick question about http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/debian-cd/ubuntu/, ie, is it a bzr branch and if so where can I fetch it.
[22:23] <Lrrr> I'll be back on IRC later tonight.
[22:23] <evand> Lrrr: that is the branch
[22:24] <evand> bzr branch http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/debian-cd/ubuntu/ debian-cd.ubuntu
[23:15] <Lrrr> evand: dang... I thought I tried that already.
[23:15] <Lrrr> thank you
[23:19] <mshadle> crap anyone here know why i get errors like this? "db_input: command not found" and a lot of postinst scripts fail. just normal apt-get installs too. something broke my package management
[23:37] <Lrrr> mshadle: is debconf installed?
[23:38] <mshadle> yeah..
[23:38] <mshadle> debconf and debconf-i18n and says it is up to date
[23:38] <Lrrr> evand: I guess I had the URL wrong, then thought it wasn't a bzr repo.
[23:38] <Lrrr> mshadle: It might be broken.
[23:38] <Lrrr> like, some files could be missing
[23:38] <mshadle> yeah.. im afraid if i remove it
[23:39] <mshadle> then ill be even more in a pickle
[23:39] <Lrrr> Check the list of files in the package first.


[01:06] <clusty> i was wondering if somebody could suggets some tool to mass download all fine from a http server (disregarding apache dir showing links)
[01:06] <clusty> like reordering ...
[01:15] <chomwitt_> what's the shortest routr in order to manage user accounts centrally  in a server in a lan ?
[01:21] <russlar> chomwitt_: besides active directory?
[01:22] <russlar> chomwitt_: you can use ldap
[01:25] <chomwitt_> russlar: is there a tutorial?
[01:25] <russlar> chomwitt_: there's google
[01:25] <chomwitt_> russlar: for ldpa
[01:25] <russlar> !ldap
[01:26] <chomwitt_> ok thanks!
[01:26] <russlar> and there's ubottu, aparently
[01:28]  * russlar petts ubottu
[01:28] <chomwitt_> !ubottu
[01:55] <mathiaz> zul: right - may be related to NM
[01:55] <mathiaz> zul: may be if the network interface is down
[01:55] <zul> yeah it might
[01:55] <mathiaz> zul: however mysql is supposed to bind to lo
[01:56] <zul> it might be upstart as well
[01:56] <mathiaz> zul: and loopback is not supposed to be handle by NM
[02:01] <stimble> does ubuntu have somethign similar to kickstart?
[02:06] <mathiaz> stimble: yes - there is a kickstart implementation for ubuntu - kickseed
[02:07] <mathiaz> stimble: otherwise there is the preseed option
[02:07] <mathiaz> stimble: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/index.html
[02:14] <stimble> cool, thx mathiaz
[03:21] <smackdaddy> when i load my site with apache2.. it wont display my images... any ideas?
[03:42] <arrrghhh> does anyone use mpd on their servers?
[03:50] <poningru> arrrghhh, yes
[03:50] <poningru> in a vm
[03:50] <poningru> with data mounted through sshfs
[06:23] <StrangeCharm> if i want to install karmic server, is there any benefit in downloading a dvd rather than a cd?
[06:32] <jmarsden> StrangeCharm: Only if you will be installing it away from a fast Internet connection and will need packages that are on the DVD but not on the CD.
[06:45] <StrangeCharm> jmarsden, so the server version can be installed from the generic dvd?
[06:46] <jmarsden> No, you'd want a server DVD for that -- different kernel
[06:48] <StrangeCharm> jmarsden, do you know where the server rc dvd is on the site? i'm having some trouble finding it in the directory structure.
[06:49] <jmarsden> I don't even know if there is one... your question implied there was... let me look.  I use the CD iso images for server installs myself.
[06:50] <StrangeCharm> jmarsden, i just don't own writable cds: only dvds. i figure that, it i'm going to use a dvd disk, i might as well give it 4.5gb of content
[06:50] <jmarsden> Seems pointless downloading extra stuff you won't need to use :)  I don't see a server DVD image out there...
[06:51] <jmarsden> BTW for stuff like this a few CD-RWs or DVD-RWs are nice to use, because you can re-use them when the rc is no longer useful... i.e. in a few days when the real thing comes out :)
[06:51] <StrangeCharm> i would conversely suggest that, since bits are cheap, and disks are noncheap, i maximise efficiency with a dvd image
[06:52] <StrangeCharm> sadly, i am not the one who controls which disks i have available, which does end up with a bunch of old leftovers, and some waste
[06:59] <jmarsden> StrangeCharm: OK.  My time waiting for downloading and burning an extra 4 GB is probably worth more to me than the few cents a DVD-R costs (what are they, US$0.17 each or so?); but I recently grabbed a pack of 10 DVD-RWs just for stuff like this so even those few cents don't get spent now :)  And for testing, you can avoid optical media completely and download to hard disk and then run a test install in a virtual mac
[06:59] <jmarsden> hine (using KVM or VirtualBox or whatever you prefer)... no optical media needed, very ecologically sound :) :)
[10:21] <Sinkro63> Hi. Which FTP do You recommend to install?
[14:10] <skuld> can any body help me get postfix working?
[15:46] <skuld> I need help with postfix please.  I'm trying to use SASL authentication, I'm getting a bunch of errors in my log file....posting a snippiti....
[15:49] <skuld> http://pastebin.com/f68822
[15:50] <skuld> postfix configuration:  http://pastebin.com/f687e7ef4
[15:51] <skuld> I'm trying to use postfix (with dovecot later for that) and mysql user database.  SASL authentication to stop open relay.
[15:51] <skuld> I can send meail if I use telnet though.
[15:51] <skuld> email
[16:05] <foxbuntu> skuld, while I am unable to directly help, I suggest you checkout this channel: #postfix
[16:07] <lamont> and generally, for bolting large things (like sasl and sql databases) onto postfix, getting it to work with postfix not-chrooted is the first step
[16:25] <JanC> lamont: and AFAIK postfix is protected by AppArmor in Ubuntu, so a chroot is less important?
[16:51] <lamont> JanC: apparmor is a nice security blanket.  so is a chroot.
[17:18] <Noah0504> Not sure if I should talk about Karmic here, but as anyone else had trouble getting Grub 2 to install on a RAID setup?
[17:18] <Noah0504> It won't do it at all.
[17:18] <Noah0504> Kind of stumped.
[17:21] <JanC> what sort of RAID?
[17:22] <Noah0504> Well, in the past I had 4 HDDs partitioned into two.  I would mirror the first partitions and then RAID 5 the last ones... Then make the RAID 1 /boot and the RAID 5 LVM and /
[17:22] <Noah0504> That would work fine in 9.04.
[17:22] <Noah0504> Not so much now.
[17:22] <Noah0504> Then I thought I would try just 1 RAID 5 array...
[17:22] <Noah0504> No luck either.
[17:23] <JanC> /boot on RAID 1 should work, as long as GRUB2 is installed on the right disk (or on all the disks)
[17:24] <Noah0504> JanC: Can I hope the the installer will does this by default?
[17:24] <JanC> no idea
[17:25] <Noah0504> Ha.
[17:25] <Noah0504> Well, I just ask because everything just seemed to work on 9.04, but can't get it figured out on 9.10.  Haha.  I can always go back, but I like newer things.
[17:25]  * Noah0504 sighs.
[17:27] <JanC> Noah0504: might be useful to check it instals on the right disk and/or manually install grub on all the disks
[17:28] <JanC> it's not impossible that the drives are enumerated in a different order when booting from CD (or the network, or whatever)
[17:29] <Noah0504> Hmm...
[17:29] <JanC> also, GRUB2 should allow you to boot anyway, it has a much more extensive shell environment than GRUB1
[17:30] <Noah0504> Well, it tells me the installation fails in general.
[17:30] <Noah0504> So, I don't know if it is making it that far.
[17:30] <JanC> if installation fails, that's something entirely different  ;)
[17:31] <Noah0504> Haha.
[17:31] <JanC> http://grub.enbug.org/FrontPage has most of the information about GRUB2
[17:32] <Noah0504> Yeah, it's always frustrating trying to get over a new problem.  I just set up my partitions again... with the flags all set... I'm going to give it one more shot!
[17:32] <Noah0504> :P
[17:32] <Noah0504> If I can't figure it out now, I will just go back to 9.04 for the time being until I can mess around with it some more in a test environment.  Maybe that's part of my lesson learned.
[17:32] <Noah0504> :)
[17:57] <embrik> I've installed ubuntu hardy server and dhcpserver and arno-iptables-firewall. The clients get ip-addresse and can log on to nx on the server. But they can't connect to the internet. The server connects to the internet via eth0, gives away ip-addresses on eth1. Can anyone give me a hint?
[18:00] <embrik> can anyone help me getting my client on the internet? I get ip from the server, the server connects to the internet with eth0
[18:01] <embrik> my server is ubuntu hardy
[18:22] <embrik> hmm.. are you all busy or am I alone in here? Is it too early maybe? Should I be back in some hours?
[18:23] <embrik> can anyone explain to me what this message in syslog means: Connection attempt (PRIV): IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:38] <Noah0504> JanC: Still there?
[18:39] <JanC> Noah0504: sometimes  ;)
[18:40] <Noah0504> So, I am still having problems.  The installer will not install GRUB on /dev/md0, which is my RAID1.
[18:40] <Noah0504> And when just trying to install it on sda2 (the actual partition), it fails as well.
[18:50] <skuld> Does anybody in here have experiance with Postfix?
[18:53] <embrik> can anyone help me getting my clients on the internet? The server (ubuntu hardy) is set up as a dhcp-server and gives out ip on eth1. It connects to the internet on eth0.
[18:53] <Noah0504> Bah!  I finally got it.
[18:54] <embrik> Or show me a howto - I've been googling some time now, ,and can't figure out what I am doing wrong. The client can't ping anything else than the server
[19:00] <blue-frog> embrik: is the dhcp server giving the gateway?
[19:06] <embrik> blue-frog, I'm not sure. I haven't anything about the gateway in dhcpd.conf. How should it give away the gateway?
[19:09] <blue-frog> embrik: option routers
[19:10] <embrik> blue-frog, option routers <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:10] <blue-frog> if it is your gateway to the world yes.  Missing ; at the en dthough...
[19:12] <embrik> blue-frog, but what is my gateway? eth0 (the dhcp-nic LAN is <IP_ADDRESS>) Eth0 to the internet gets ip from my ISP
[19:12] <embrik> sorry first eth1 and then eth0
[19:12] <embrik> eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:13] <blue-frog> embrik: on your server    netstat -rn
[19:15] <blue-frog> embrik: in your config i wouls say 1.5 is the gateway
[19:16] <embrik> blue-frog, how can I show you output from netstat -rn?
[19:16] <blue-frog> pastebin.com
[19:17] <embrik> blue-frog, http://pastebin.com/d7ec0f1a5
[19:17] <embrik> blue-frog
[19:19] <blue-frog> option routers <IP_ADDRESS>;     restart dhcpd and try
[19:20] <embrik> blue-frog, ok
[19:24] <embrik> blue-frog, error when I try to restart dhcp-server. Here-s output fron netstat on client: http://pastebin.com/m74a1c51a
[19:24] <|preTnLvr4f|> is there a way I can see what services are running (I just rebooted my server and want some confirmations)
[19:25] <blue-frog> pretn ps -ef
[21:31] <blue-frog> embrik: still fighting with dhcp?
[21:53] <embrik> some application is writing to my resol.conf. could it be networmamager?
[21:56] <embrik> is it safe to remove networkmanager on my ubuntu server. I have set up my nics in network/inerfaces
[21:59] <blue-frog> embrik: from a client can you ping your server eth0?
[21:59] <embrik> blue-frog, yes
[21:59] <blue-frog> ok can you ping from a client <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:00] <embrik> blue-frog, Well, yes - There is a problem in resolv.conf I think. New lines are added without me doing it
[22:01] <embrik> blue-frog, but yes I can ping external ip from the client - but not hostnames
[22:01] <blue-frog> embrik: so when you were saying you can't ping anything on the internet you were trying to say you were not resolving anything in fact
[22:02] <blue-frog> should you have started with that it would have speed up the processe...
[22:02] <embrik> blue-frog, no, when I said that I couldn't ping anything I couldn't
[22:02] <blue-frog> ok
[22:02] <blue-frog> what's the resolv.conf of your client?
[22:03] <embrik> it has got the wrong (old) ip adresses for the dns. I don't know why. Whenj I fill in the rioght ones everything works for a while
[22:04] <blue-frog> dhcpd.conf      option domain-name-servers
[22:04] <embrik> ok
[22:05] <embrik> the line domain-name-servers is commented out
[22:06] <embrik> should that refer to the dns server fro my isp?
[22:06] <blue-frog> you have another dns server?
[22:06] <embrik> no
[22:06] <blue-frog> so?
[22:08] <embrik> blue-frog, there are two addresses. Can I write them like this? option domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;
[22:10] <blue-frog> <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>;
[22:10] <embrik> ok
[22:10] <blue-frog> one dns is enough anyway
[22:12] <embrik> ok, what about ntp-servers and netbios-name-servers and netbios-node-type? Shal I just ignore them? I don't know what they do.
[22:16] <embrik> blue-frog, thanks a lot. I know how it is to give support to someone who doesn't understand more than half of it. I do it everyday at work. I really appreciate it.


[00:56] <ibeardslee> seems 12.10 Beta 1 is out
[01:00] <thumper> I wouldn't rush...
[01:00] <ajmitch> heh
[01:00] <ajmitch> I'm just installing backported kernel + X from quantal now
[01:01] <ajmitch> so far I can see that I'll need to backport virtualbox as well
[21:36] <kcj> Morning
[21:39] <Atamira> morning
[22:16] <ojwb> morning


[10:37] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[10:37] <nickrud> :)
[10:37] <popey> TheSteveMonkey: because they decided it would be a good idea to have a long term support release
[10:37] <robertl> delmar, I used the java.com manual install but i believe breezy has the packages and for sure dapper does. I think you need to point to multiverse to get them.
[10:38] <kbrooks> nickrud: i couldnt put it in a pastebin
[10:38] <Abountu> uboto: thanks, I'll try it
[10:38] <TheSteveMonkey> popey is dapper the latest?
[10:38] <nickrud> kbrooks, a joke :)
[10:38] <popey> TheSteveMonkey: out on 1st june
[10:38] <kbrooks> nickrud: vertical scrollbars
[10:38] <TheSteveMonkey> popey cool thanks
[10:38] <popey> np
[10:38] <delmar> robertj, hrm. well azureus wouldnt even run if i didnt have it but... i can't help wondering if that is the problem.
[10:39] <astriskmanish> it give the following error msg...
[10:39] <astriskmanish> Reading package lists... Done
[10:39] <astriskmanish> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <astriskmanish> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:39] <Calgar__> levander?
[10:39] <astriskmanish> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <needlez> samuli: do you have a list of programs for linux that is like a comparison chart for windows programs?
[10:39] <nickrud> astriskmanish, sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <popey> needlez: I just pasted one
[10:39] <needlez> oh!
[10:39] <needlez> my bad
[10:39] <Jowi> ubotu: tell astriskmanish about pastebin
[10:39] <popey> needlez:  http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LinuxAdvocacy
[10:40] <erUSUL> astriskmanish: do not aste here please. use pastebin see topic
[10:40] <popey> needlez: scroll down on that page
[10:40] <delmar> Jowi, thank you :P
[10:40] <robertl> delmar, i think the OO java is self contained... thats a guess but I think it might be close to the truth. OO can run on a machine that can't view java online...
[10:40] <needlez> popey: thank you :)
[10:40] <astriskmanish> ok..
[10:40] <popey> no probs
[10:40] <nickrud> astriskmanish, if that fails, try removing the in. from in.archive.ubuntu.com , that repo may not be up
[10:40] <samuli> needlez, just try to avoid apt-getting kde-programs if you're using ubuntu (gnome)
[10:40] <AlmtyBob> is there a way to list all the ports on your system that have services running?
[10:41] <popey> AlmtyBob: nmap
[10:41] <nickrud> AlmtyBob, sudo netstat -tlp
[10:41] <delmar> robertj, im gonna re-download Az and check md5 this time
[10:41] <samuli> or else you're going to be downloading a lot of libraries you probably don't need.
[10:41] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[10:41] <robertl> AlmtyBob lsof -i (as root)
[10:41] <astriskmanish> after updating again it says that sudo apt-get update
[10:41] <robertl> delmar, ok.
[10:42] <astriskmanish> sorry.. its says that...Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <robertl> delmar, try   strace -o [out-file-name]  azureus
[10:42] <kbrooks> samuli: do you concede that kde programs work on gnome
[10:42] <Pasqual> #join indymedia
[10:42] <delmar> robertj, ok will do that soon
[10:42] <jack1> who knows which mobile phones work very good with kontact reg. synchronization?
[10:42] <astriskmanish> so plz help me what to do??
[10:42] <nickrud> astriskmanish, then you probably have some bad sources, if you could put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:43] <samuli> kbrooks, yeah they do.
[10:43] <samuli> some of them anyways.
[10:43] <Pasqual> #indymedia
[10:43] <Fu_^^Nichi> #jakarta
[10:43] <snowfaked> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is this the right way to go about installing ati drivers?
[10:43] <ompaul> Pasqual, /join #channelname
[10:44] <samuli> but I can't see the reasoning getting amarok for gnome for example, because you're downloading and installing 100mb+ worth of stuff with that.
[10:44] <samuli> and it's gonna be slower too.
[10:44] <samuli> and gonna look like grab :)
[10:44] <samuli> or crap
[10:45] <nickrud> snowfaked, they've been recommending that page here for months
[10:45] <snowfaked> ok
[10:45] <samuli> I did the way on wiki.
[10:46] <samuli> althought dpkg--reconfigure messes my monitor, so I simply just replaced "ati" with "fglrx" in xorg.conf.
[10:46] <samuli> worked like a char,
[10:46] <samuli> charm.
[10:46] <graveson> how do i manage kde application fonts etc
[10:47] <deus_> I got some problems with my 32 bit chroot and my cdrom
[10:47] <deus_> it wont mount on chroot/media/cdrom0
[10:47] <deus_> i added the option in the fstab but it wont work
[10:47] <deus_> so i cant use mplayer on the cd
[10:47] <astriskmanish> nickrud , i didnt get what u r trying to say..
[10:48] <nickrud> astriskmanish, the file /etc/apt/sources.list determines where ubuntu looks for packages. That's what seems to need to be fixed.
[10:49] <[D] ARKFENIX> hello everybody
[10:49] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you can show it to me, by opening it with gedit and pasting the contents of the file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:49] <delmar> robertj, lol. new wierdness.... unpacked fresh, ran it.. set beginner etc.. hit finish... it hang for a few secs.. then i was able to close... the process is running but no gui or icon up the top or anything...
[10:50] <ezenu> anyone familar with tv tuners? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1010796
[10:50] <[D] ARKFENIX> i need help with k3b , i'm trying to burn a DVD but k3b says : "error : couldn't determine size of resulting image file"
[10:50] <deus_> somebody said i should copy the fstab for the regular system onto the chroot system is that wise?
[10:50] <Managu> ezenu: I've had some experience with NTSC tv tuners
[10:50] <robertl> delmar, weird magic.
[10:51] <delmar> robertj, killed process and restarted and it seems ok... testing torrent now
[10:51] <robertl> are your sources.list pointing to multiverse?
[10:51] <ezenu> Managu, I am trying to save the video to a file, but my tuner does software encoding, not hardware
[10:51] <dabaR> Hey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this?
[10:51] <needlez> does anyone know how to install the newest firefox? i downloaded the thingy, but i dont know what to do next.
[10:51] <robertl> delmar, cool... (makes warding sign in the air)
[10:51] <dabaR> !ff1.5
[10:51] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:52] <robertl> needlez, what exactly is a thingie? =)
[10:52] <Managu> ezenu: If you're the person who made the post you refer to, I'm not sure how to help.  MythTV was the first application I found that did a good job recording video and audio off of my BT878 based card
[10:52] <needlez> the .tar.gz file or whatever it was.
[10:52] <robertl> a .deb thingie or a tar.gz thingie?
[10:52] <robertl> oh. ok.
[10:53] <robertl> needlez, unpack it.
[10:53] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[10:53] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:53] <robertl> needlez,  tar -xzvf firefox <hit tab>
[10:53] <ezenu> Managu, yeah, that's me... If only I would've bought a hardware encoding tv tuner for $20 more, I wouldn't have had the problem
[10:53] <nickrud> needlez, that wiki page above will help you integrate 1.5 into ubuntu well
[10:53] <robertl> needlez,  ever install anything from the cli before?
[10:53] <Managu> ezenu: have a particular application in mind?
[10:53] <needlez> nope. this is the first time using linux
[10:54] <astriskmanish> nickrud i have send u that..
[10:54] <robertl> needlez, cool.
[10:54] <robertl> maybe follow nickrud's link
[10:54] <robertl> or unpack it in your home dir.
[10:54] <needlez> thats probably what i have to do.
[10:54] <needlez> lol
[10:54] <gnomefreak> dont unpack it in home
[10:54] <nickrud> astriskmanish, could you give me the link?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> unpack it in /opt
[10:55] <robertl> needlez, we all start somewhere.
[10:55] <ezenu> Managu, All I want to do is save video to a file. I can use tvtime to view TV easily. But it doesn't save. And mythTV is too complicated I think
[10:55] <Managu> ezenu: all I can offer are thoughts, not fully formed solutions.  There was a package called "vcr" that claimed to be able to record video from V4L interfaces.  It's quite possible that "mencoder", from the mplayer package can be coaxed into encoding video in real time
[10:55] <Kr0ntab> sup peepz
[10:55] <needlez> gnomefreak: so that file i downloaded from the firefoz site, i just unpack everything in it to the /opt directory and everything will be good? or is there more to do after that?
[10:56] <deus_> somebody said i should copy the fstab for the regular system onto the chroot system is that wise?
[10:56] <ezenu> Managu, ok thanks. i'll look those up
[10:56] <Kr0ntab> deus_, you dont have to...
[10:56] <Managu> ezenu: also, "apt-cache search "video capture"" turns up a few packages
[10:57] <gnomefreak> needlez: read the wiki that nickrud sent you theres a few steps you must do just download it and copy and paste the commands
[10:57] <gnomefreak> needlez: the tar command it gives will unpack it in /opt/ for you ;)
[10:57] <deus_> Kr0ntab: well, i added the regular /media/cdrom0  /chroot/media/cdrom0 but the chroot system cant see the files on the cdrom
[10:57] <robertl> or needlez, /usr/local =) i say follow the wiki instructions too.
[10:57] <astriskmanish> nickrud , here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13934
[10:57] <Kr0ntab> oic what yer trying to do
[10:57] <dabaR> Hey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this?
[10:58] <delmar> robertj, no good. doint strace now.
[10:58] <Kr0ntab> you'll need to make sure that you have appropriate /dev files for your cdrom...
[10:58] <robertl> delmar, ok.
[10:58] <Managu> dabaR: might be that you've got firestarter loaded and it's being a bit overzealous.  Try opening it up and turning your firewall off
[10:59] <dabaR> I have no firestarter installed.
[10:59] <dabaR> iptables are empty, and my ipmasq is off.
[10:59] <delmar> robertj, ill check the wiki for anything about manual java install or anything java related.
[10:59] <dabaR> Plus it all works on the same, dhcp protocol, but with a router.
[10:59] <robertl> dabaR,  what does  cat /etc/resolv.conf  show?
[10:59] <dabaR> I power cycled everything.
[10:59] <Kr0ntab> you don't have to use an fstab to mount the cdrom...  you can issue a mount command and do the same thing... provided you have a device file... and an emnpty directory for a mount point
[10:59] <Jowi> dabaR: is the computer connected straight to the cable modem or do you have something inbetween?
[10:59] <nickrud> astriskmanish, oookkk. You are going to have to replace those completely, there's a good set at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:59] <dabaR> if directly, it does not ping, if through router, I am here.
[11:01] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13935 is resolv.conf. Only that last line may be a clue...
[11:01] <acid-trip> how do i set up a loopback interface?
[11:01] <Jowi> dabaR: your nameservers are wrong.
[11:01] <tomek_> hi
[11:02] <voraistos> How do i know/change wich modules are loaded in my kernel ?
[11:02] <nickrud> voraistos, lsmod
[11:02] <snowfaked> anyone had problems connecting with rdesktop? I only get blank screen for a few seconds and then the programs closes
[11:02] <voraistos> thx
[11:02] <dabaR> Jowi: that is when I am connected to the router, so it looks fine here...
[11:02] <dabaR> + it works
[11:02] <Jowi> dabaR: log into your router and see which nameservers are in use in there and put those in your resolv.conf
[11:02] <nickrud> voraistos, remove with rmmod, modprobe to instert (removal doesn't always work)
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Recommendations for a wireless card to install into a desktop computer for good compatibility?  (Potential dual-booter)
[11:03] <dabaR> Jowi: sure, I will try that. The thing is that I can not ping out at all. Not even to IP addresses with the modem. That means no DNS resolving will fix it, but I am willingh to try. I will be back.
[11:03] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, any errors in the console when running rdesktop?
[11:03] <h3h_timo> can anyone help me with installing limewire?
[11:03] <nickrud> !limewire
[11:03] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[11:03] <Jowi> dabaR: when connected to the router, you will use the nameservers the router has got from the modem. if you are not using the router, you will not be able to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <h3h_timo> thank you
[11:04] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: nope
[11:04] <h3h_timo> !frostwire
[11:04] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[11:04] <h3h_timo> is frostwire better than limewire?
[11:04] <robertl> delmar, ... I have packages java-common java-gcj-compat
[11:04] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, I believe rdesktop also does not support microsoft's high encryption setting.  check out the terminal services option to make sure it's using medium encryption or lower
[11:04] <nickrud> h3h_timo, feels faster here
[11:04] <dabaR> Jowi: that is clear.
[11:04] <Jowi> dabaR: (of course, it could be that the cable-modem has that address but it is more likely that the modem has got your public ip address registered instead)
[11:04] <dabaR> brb
[11:04] <h3h_timo> okay thanks.. do you need java for that?
[11:04] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: ok, have to check that
[11:04] <nickrud> h3h_timo, yes
[11:05] <robertl> delmar, those are ubuntu packages.
[11:05] <Kr0ntab> yup... what OS you connecting to?  win2k3?  win2k?  xp?
[11:05] <h3h_timo> thank you
[11:05] <nickrud> !java
[11:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:05] <robertl> del-mar, join #az-pain  =)
[11:05] <gnosticapex> anyone feel like helping a nub? lol
[11:06] <Hfuy> Evening all
[11:06] <acid-trip> how do i set up a loopback interface?
[11:06] <Hfuy> I'm trying to get hibernate/sleep/suspend or whatever to work on a Toshiba Satellite SP10
[11:06] <nickrud> gnosticapex, we live for the easy(!) questions :)
[11:06] <Hfuy> Do I have a hope in hell?
[11:06] <robertl> or delmar, join #az-pain
[11:06] <delmar> robertj, what versions?
[11:06] <acid-trip> !loopback
[11:06] <ubotu> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso mountpoint/
[11:07] <Kr0ntab> acid-trip, add "iface lo inet loopback" and "auto lo" to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:07] <Kr0ntab> shoudl already have it
[11:07] <Kr0ntab> unless it was removed
[11:07] <gnosticapex> heh well, I have a toshiba Satellite L25-S1195, it has an ATi card in it. I know that they made that flgrx or whatever for it and also ATI released drivers, I've got the ATi driver on my USB device, but I dont know the command to access it/run it >.>
[11:08] <nickrud> !ati
[11:08] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:08] <acid-trip> Kr0ntab, it's already there
[11:08] <acid-trip> but when i try to connect to my ircd locally
[11:08] <acid-trip> it wont work
[11:08] <acid-trip> screw it
[11:08] <I_Eat_Plastic> !mp3
[11:08] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:08] <nickrud> gnosticapex, that !tati factoid above has the ati info
[11:08] <nickrud> ericvw, !ata gnomefreak
[11:08] <Kr0ntab> type ifconfig... do you see an "lo" device?
[11:09] <voraistos> nickrud: all i know is i should add module evdev to be loaded with my linux kernel. i dunno what to do (with modprobe, or where the module is/is not, etc....) :'(
[11:09] <voraistos> can u help ?
[11:09] <gnosticapex> Ill look at the community post, I already looked at the binaryhowto and it gave me the basic information but Im still having some troubles -.-
[11:09] <gnosticapex> if I could figure out how to access my USB device and run off of it, then I have the ati driver there >.>
[11:10] <astriskmanish> nickrud, again it says that u have to run apt-get update to fix these problem
[11:10] <nickrud> voraistos, you should already have it: lsmod | grep evdev , it should say it's there
[11:10] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, did that work?
[11:11] <nickrud> astriskmanish, did you replace the original, useless /etc/apt/sources.list with the one from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/972 ?
[11:11] <Managu> tonyyarusso: I've not had much problem with any of the mass-marketed 802.11g wireless cards, once I've gotten them set up with ndiswrapper.  There is something to be said about using a card with good linux support, though.  Atheros-chipset based cards seem to have the best support.
[11:11] <voraistos> nickrud: with lsmod i dont see it. sorry i an complete noob. no idea what i should do
[11:11] <h3h_timo> okay, i installed frostwire.. but i already had java installed, but it says that i dont
[11:11] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: i don't have access to that windows machine yet so i don't know. will try that when i can first access it with windows
[11:11] <nickrud> voraistos, sudo modprobe evdev
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> Managu: Okay.
[11:11] <gnosticapex> there a command thatll list off your kernel version?
[11:11] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[11:11] <RandolphCarter> gnosticapex: uname -a
[11:12] <nickrud> h3h_timo, how'd you install java?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Is there a GUI tool for metric-English unit conversion?
[11:12] <salah> hi. my ubuntu 5.10 server have problems with outgoing connections. all connections in to it (when I connect to ssh etc) works fine, but when I use apt-get or ping or anything else that use outgoing network, it won't work. any ideas why?
[11:12] <RandolphCarter> gnosticapex: uname -r just for the kernel release
[11:12] <h3h_timo> ummm... let me remember
[11:12] <Kr0ntab> snowfaked, what version of windows is it running?
[11:12] <h3h_timo> umm.. i downloaded it and converted it to a deb package.. and then installed it like that.. it was from the unoffical ubuntu howto i think
[11:12] <voraistos> nickrud: oops, no with your comand i found it. i am noob and i have bad eyes lol
[11:13] <nickrud> h3h_timo, then try sudo update-alternatives --config java , that should be the final step
[11:13] <h3h_timo> thanks
[11:13] <h3h_timo> you know u guys are genius's?
[11:13] <astriskmanish> nickrud, yes i have replaced...
[11:14] <nickrud> astriskmanish, to make sure, type the following in a terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list , are they the same as the wiki?
[11:14] <h3h_timo> i am still getting the error though
[11:14] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: xp
[11:14] <nickrud> h3h_timo, what does java -version say?
[11:15] <h3h_timo> just a sec
[11:15] <h3h_timo> java version "1.4.2"
[11:15] <h3h_timo> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[11:15] <h3h_timo> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[11:15] <h3h_timo> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[11:15] <h3h_timo> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[11:15] <h3h_timo> brad@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[11:15] <nickrud> h3h_timo, you didn't choose the right java, then. Look for the one that says sun (should be 3rd)
[11:16] <h3h_timo> i have no third
[11:16] <gnosticapex> hmm, where can i get fglrx for ubuntu, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686 >.>
[11:16] <dabaR> Hi again. The DNS entries get set properly by ifup. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13936 is what I get when I ping by IP address.
[11:16] <needlez> i think my firefox download has hung...
[11:17] <Hfuy> Hmm.
[11:17] <Hfuy> It'll seem to put it to sleep - pulsing power light - but not wake up.
[11:17] <Zane42> exit
[11:17] <tedd_> How can I check which version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[11:18] <brokengun> dudes
[11:18] <crimsun> tedd_: lsb_release -r
[11:18] <brokengun> i added some repositories
[11:18] <tedd_> perfect
[11:18] <DarkPath> hmm... I'm having a problem with the Ubuntu LiveCDs, both Dapper and Breezy, on my new desktop. Bit of a graphical glitch.
[11:18] <tedd_> thanks crimsun
[11:18] <LinuxJones> tedd, or cat /etc/issue
[11:18] <Managu> dabaR: probably a dead end, but is ping still setuid root on your machine?
[11:19] <DarkPath> the X server starts, and the mouse works fine, as does the sound... but then when GDM/Gnome tries to start up, I just get this messed up graphic in the center of my screen
[11:19] <tck> anyone can help me with a ax550 vga card?
[11:19] <DarkPath> and then nothing loads
[11:19] <dabaR> Managu: I ping fine when I am connected through the router.
[11:19] <brokengun> and now when i run "apt-get upate" i get a 404 error on some of he packages
[11:19] <DarkPath> anyone have any ideas?
[11:19] <harisund> Hello everyone !
[11:19] <needlez> does anyone know why it says "you do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt""?
[11:19] <nickrud> h3h_timo, apt-cache policy sun-jre1.5 , that should show installed if you did the steps right
[11:19] <astriskmanish> nickrud, yes both r same
[11:19] <harisund> needlez are you prefixing your commands with 'sudo'
[11:19] <brokengun> needlez: sudo and then the command
[11:19] <dabaR> needlez: cause you are not the owner of the folder.
[11:19] <h3h_timo> k
[11:19] <nickrud> astriskmanish, then sudo apt-get update
[11:19] <Managu> dabaR: perhaps post the results of "ifconfig" when you connect directly?
[11:19] <needlez> wait, should i be doing all this from terminal?
[11:19] <nickrud> astriskmanish, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <samuli> please, use aptitude instead of apt-get
[11:20] <harisund> samuli, do you see any particular difference for your choice? how do they affect in general?
[11:20] <astriskmanish> ok.. i m updating it then will go for kubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <brokengun> i am getting 404 errors on some of my apt-get stuff when i run "sudo apt-get update" what do i need to do?
[11:20] <samuli> harisund, with aptitude you can just as easily remove the whole thing if you don't like it.
[11:21] <harisund> samuli: ah yes you make a good point there..
[11:21] <harisund> samuli, no -- switches eh?
[11:21] <dabaR> ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13938 there is ifconfig, Managu
[11:21] <samuli> with apt-get you end up just removing the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop' which is really nothing.
[11:21] <brokengun> anyone, please?
[11:21] <samuli> no switches or options needed.
[11:21] <nickrud> astriskmanish, if you were reading, samuli makes a good point: when you install kubuntu-desktop, do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. To heck with conventions
[11:22] <tck> anyone can help me with a ax550 vga card?
[11:22] <harisund> brokengun, there are a couple of things you could do. Maybe the sites are slow to connect or not up, so you could try a while later.
[11:22] <brokengun> ok
[11:22] <brokengun> well what happens in the event that they aren't up?
[11:22] <harisund> brokengun, or try posting the output of /etc/apt/sources.list on pasteboard or something.. i
[11:22] <brokengun> cause i dont think they are
[11:23] <dabaR> My router gets a different IP address from the DHCP on the modem:  <IP_ADDRESS>, and I got this same IP on the comp yesterday when I tried this.
[11:23] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: well, restarting the winxp machine helped, it was hanged ;)
[11:23] <Managu> dabaR: yeah, the dhcp server probably hands out IP addresses by mac address
[11:23] <Kr0ntab> ha  there ya go
[11:24] <astriskmanish> nickrude, after giving the command sudo apt-get update i got the folowing error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13939
[11:24] <brokengun> harisund: what is a pasteboard?
[11:24] <needlez> samuli: can you help me out with some terminal commands?
[11:24] <Jowi> dabaR: are your router set up to give a static ip for the computer?
[11:24] <needlez> can anyone help me with some terminal commands?
[11:24] <harisund> ubotu tell brokengun about pasteboard
[11:25] <Managu> needlez: to do what?
[11:25] <harisund> ubotu tell brokengun about paste
[11:25] <Trae> pastebin
[11:25] <Jowi> dabaR: or, if you are using firestarter, have you enabled dhcp there (also write in the nameservers in the DNS tab)
[11:25] <needlez> well i downloaded the new firefox to my desktop by accident, and im trying to follow that guide that someone previously sent me. and the guide says to download the file to /opt/firefox, and i didnt.
[11:26] <needlez> im very confused right now..
[11:26] <harisund> needlez, you don't need to download it into /opt
[11:26] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you didn't update the sources properly. type in a terminal gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" , delete what's there, and cut and paste the sources from the pastebin and save. Then update again
[11:26] <astriskmanish> and after giving sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i got..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13940
[11:26] <harisund> Wherever you downloaded, it you can copy to /opt.
[11:26] <h3h_timo> alright i got frostwire installed, thanks to anyone who helped me
[11:26] <Jowi> dabaR: it is normal that you get a new ip address each time you connect with the modem. nothing strange in that
[11:26] <needlez> oh, ok. well, lets give it a try then
[11:26] <harisund> needlez, which page are you referring to?
[11:26] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you're only seeing the updates, not the other stuff
[11:27] <samuli> needlez, You might want to do 'gksudo nautilus' to easily move files around and stuff.
[11:27] <dabaR> Jowi: not on cable
[11:27] <harisund> needlez are you following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion ??
[11:27] <dabaR> Jowi: I work tech support for this.
[11:27] <needlez> harisund: yes, well i am trying to
[11:27] <dabaR> it is a setting euither at the ISP, or somehwere in the OS>
[11:27] <samuli> one thing that annoys me with firefox is that there's no option to where download each individual file.
[11:28] <harisund> samuli, there is?
[11:28] <Jowi> dabaR: well, it is not up to you or your router or your modem. it's your ISP that give you the public ip address. if you get different ones, it is them doing it.
[11:28] <samuli> harisund, Is there? I haven't found it.
[11:28] <harisund> needlez do you want to go over it step by step?
[11:28] <needlez> please?
[11:28] <harisund> samuli which version of firefox are you using?
[11:28] <samuli> harisund, 1.5
[11:28] <dabaR> Jowi: agreed
[11:28] <harisund> needlez so I am asuming you are using the version of 1.05 that ships default ith breezy?
[11:29] <needlez> yes
[11:29] <harisund> samuli: Edit->Preferences->Downloads
[11:29] <sulan> any ACPI-subsystem gurus in here interrested for a bug-report on brightness control on HP NC6000? (Flight 6 & 7, works in Breezy)
[11:29] <samuli> harisund, I know that.
[11:29] <harisund> ok needlez, so you will first navigate to the Firefox homepage and download the latest version right?
[11:29] <brokengun> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13941
[11:29] <astriskmanish> nickrud, i ahve done the same.. and my update is downloading n working..
[11:29] <samuli> I mean there's no option to choose individual to somewhere else than what you set up in preferences.
[11:29] <brokengun> that is the output of /etc/apt/sources.list for me
[11:29] <needlez> harisund, yes, it has been downloaded to my desktop
[11:29] <Managu> dabaR: not having a loopback interface is suspicious, but it shouldn't cause the problems you're suggesting.  "sudo iptables -L"?
[11:29] <Kr0ntab> up to 1.08 now... after patches..
[11:29] <nickrud> astriskmanish, great
[11:29] <Jowi> dabaR: your nameservers should not change very often though. it is usually safe to put them into firestarter or resolv.conf instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:30] <harisund> needlez, are you sure about that? can you see it on your desktop?
[11:30] <needlez> yes i can
[11:31] <harisund> samuli: Ah yes I get you. Either everything goes into one place, or every time it is asked.
[11:31] <harisund> brokengun any reason you are using hoary repositories?
[11:31] <brokengun> i dunno
[11:31] <brokengun> that is what the guide said
[11:32] <harisund> Ah that could be a problem.
[11:32] <samuli> harisund, yes. There should be like default _and_ an option to save it somewhere else.
[11:32] <decoy_> Hi everybody! Can I add a DVD-iso to apt-get sources? :)
[11:32] <brokengun> where can i get the correct sources for sources.list?
[11:32] <gnosticapex> I need to figure out a) where to get fglrx for a 2.5.12-9.686 kernel (unsure of the ATI card, whichever is standard for the Toshiba Satellite L25-S1195) and b) need to find a way to load it, preferably a USB flashstick, but I don't know how to access it. >.>
[11:32] <gnosticapex> 9-686*
[11:33] <JinRoh> Hello I got this error FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-22-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format - When trying to install Creative NX WEbcam pro following thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284 <--- PLease help me
[11:33] <Managu> decoy_:  as in, an .iso file?
[11:33] <harisund> could someone please help brokengun get a correct sources.list for dapper?
[11:33] <brokengun> woah
[11:33] <brokengun> i am not running dapper though
[11:34] <nickrud> !repos
[11:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:34] <harisund> brokengun sorry .. i meant breezy.. did you get a link?
[11:34] <decoy_> Managu, Yes! I dont have a DVD-ROM drive, but I have a dvd iso on my hdd with packages. I'd like to upgrade my system from that dvd-iso... i can mount it so how can i add it to sources.list?
[11:34] <brokengun> i did
[11:34] <Managu> decoy_: oh, good question.  Let me check something
[11:35] <decoy_> :)
[11:35] <harisund> brokengun get your repos that way, and then paste that as is into your /etc/apt/sources.list file the way you did earlier. Try the 'apt-get update' again.
[11:35] <brokengun> ok hold on a minute
[11:36] <brokengun> i gotta get the line numbers out of it
[11:36] <Managu> decoy_: "man apt-cdrom"
[11:36] <dbernar1> And it works now. Weird.
[11:37] <PrimoTurbo> What is the default login for xubuntu under the Dapper 6.06 LiveCD?
[11:37] <harisund> brokengun yes make sure there are no line numbers.
[11:37] <gnosticapex> !ati
[11:37] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:37] <NoUse> PrimoTurbo ubuntu: no password
[11:37] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[11:37] <brokengun> harisund, i think it is working
[11:37] <brokengun> wait
[11:38] <brokengun> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:38] <brokengun> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:38] <brokengun> i get that
[11:38] <PrimoTurbo> NoUse: It worked thank you
[11:38] <harisund> brokengun, make sure Synaptic is not running.
[11:38] <harisund> brokengun also make sure you have no other command line opne with any of dpkg, aptitude or apt-get currently executing.
[11:38] <brokengun> alright i closed synaptic and now it works
[11:39] <brokengun> thanks a bunch mate :)
[11:39] <decoy_> Managu, how should i use it? when i've launched apt-cdrom it asks me to put CD into CD-ROM drive and press ENTER. Then it should mount it and indexed... in fact i don't have physical DVD, i have just an image... what options should i use apt-cdrom picked up an image instead of physical disk? :-)
[11:39] <Managu> decoy_: according to the man page, you would want to do something like "sudo apt-cdrom -d=<mount point>"
[11:39] <simp> hello again... how can i install/extract .deb files in ubuntu? i need them for the estonian layout: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77213.html
[11:39] <harisund> brokengun: Sure :)
[11:40] <decoy_> Managu! I'm so sorry! :))
[11:40] <decoy_> I'm blind!!! :D
[11:40] <Managu> decoy_: maybe that'll work ;-)
[11:41] <samuli> simp, to install a deb: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:41] <ozen> #join /ubuntu-fr
[11:41] <samuli> there's a graphical interface to it too.. what's it name..
[11:41] <ozen> lol
[11:41] <astriskmanish> nickrud, sorry to say but again i got error msg ie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943
[11:41] <harisund> samuli does breezy have a gui for installing .deb files?
[11:41] <samuli> simp, anyways. You can extract them with archive manager.
[11:41] <ozen> synaptik
[11:42] <simp> ok thank you...
[11:42] <samuli> harisund, I'm not sure about breezy, there's one in dapper the very least.
[11:42] <simp> i'l give it a try
[11:42] <harisund> simuli yes ok ..
[11:42] <nickrud> astriskmanish, there's still something wrong with your sources; paste them again
[11:42] <harisund> astriskmanish, that problem occurs when a software looks for anothre dependant sotware, but that required software is from a source that yo udon't have.
[11:43] <JinRoh> Hello, please someone with Creative Webcam NX Pro got it working on Ubuntu? I tried this HOWTO http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284 but it doesn't work, I check lsusb and lsmod and it seems to be ok but /dev/video is not found
[11:43] <samuli> harisund, It's called gdebi in gnome.
[11:43] <samuli> There's one for kde too.
[11:43] <harisund> ah ok .. cool.
[11:44] <Managu> JinRoh: how 'bout /dev/video0 or /dev/video1?
[11:44] <astriskmanish> harisund, so how to install the dependencies
[11:44] <samuli> simp, did you get that. there's gdebi, graphical interface to install/extract/view .deb's
[11:45] <harisund> astriskmanish, you wlil need to make sure your repositories are complete. Sorry for htis, but you will have to paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file again.
[11:45] <astriskmanish> nickrud, these r my sources.list
[11:45] <JinRoh> Managu, I don't know I think it's the same, but I don't know I don't have experience with webcams in linux so I don't know how could I find the problem
[11:45] <oklinux> I have /home/comptoyou/jre1.5.0_06 how do I enable java ?
[11:46] <JinRoh> /dev/video0: No space left on device
[11:46] <astriskmanish> harisund, these r my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13944
[11:46] <nickrud> astriskmanish, you got the hoary sources
[11:46] <samuli> !tell oklinux java
[11:46] <megaman123> how can i turn off UTF-8
[11:46] <nickrud> astriskmanish, type lsb_release -a , if it says breezy, replace those with the breezy repo below
[11:46] <harisund> astriskmanish, give me a minute. I will paste you mine.
[11:46] <nickrud> !repos
[11:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:46] <samuli> or is it.. about java?
[11:47] <samuli> megaman123, in irc?
[11:47] <megaman123> no to run VDR
[11:47] <megaman123> it says "please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR"
[11:47] <harisund> astriskmanish, do this command on your temrinal: 'sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:47] <astriskmanish> nickrud, its says its brezzy
[11:47] <megaman123> i guess in the system
[11:48] <harisund> astriskmanish: sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <nickrud> megaman123, type export LANG="ISO-15589-1" vdr
[11:49] <nickrud> astriskmanish, harisund's is a nice shortcut :)
[11:49] <megaman123> thanks :)
[11:49] <harisund> astriskmanish: did you execute that command? Once you do, open up /etc/apt/sources.list and ensure that your repositories point to breezy just to be sure. Then do the 'apt-get update'
[11:49] <megaman123> btw i got my card to run...now on to the next step....running VDR :)
[11:50] <Jowi> megaman123: if you want to make the change system wide (utf-8 is good to have, btw). first make sure you have localeconf installed ("sudo apt-get install localeconf"), then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" and you should be able to select what you want.
[11:50] <harisund> nickrud: if you look at it, his repositories are complete for hoary. Don't you agree that apt is really awesome in that a single substitution and you are now up to date?
[11:51] <nickrud> harisund, absolutely. You just gotta know sed :)
[11:51] <astriskmanish> harisund, can u tell me how to execute it as i m new to all these stuffs
[11:51] <harisund> ok. First open a terminal. Are you comfortable executing commands using the terminal?
[11:51] <harisund> Otherwise we can use the GUI if you wish.
[11:51] <astriskmanish> harisund, yes
[11:52] <harisund> astriskmanish: What do you prefer?
[11:52] <carl> Need a hand again... how do I do for a mounted FS to be writable for normal users?
[11:52] <byen_> Guys need some immediate help/ I was upgrading to dapper and all of a sudden it just stopped at the last point
[11:52] <astriskmanish> harisund, terminal
[11:52] <harisund> I'm glad you prefer that.
[11:52] <Mindtzar> whats the command line arguement for killing xserver
[11:52] <Mindtzar> ubotu tell Mindtzar about killx
[11:52] <harisund> Ok (would it be ok if Irefer to you as manish, as it is shorter?) ..
[11:53] <samuli> it's pain in the ass to try and walk someone through in a gui-style :P
[11:53] <byen_> Please help. My dist upgrade stopped at 98% what should i do?
[11:53] <harisund> First, samuli: I agree ..
[11:53] <GTroy> I've got a torrent coming down, irc, and google...but I can't get any other pages to come up....any idea?
[11:53] <Mindtzar> anyone know the command line arguement to kill server?
[11:53] <astriskmanish> harisund, yes ofcourse that is my mane
[11:53] <harisund> MIndtazr which server?
[11:53] <simp> another question, how can i edit a .conf file in terminal, what was the thing i had to write again?
[11:53] <simp> something with sudo :P
[11:53] <Mindtzar> xserver
[11:53] <Mindtzar> :\
[11:54] <GTroy> simp try pico
[11:54] <harisund> ok manish..first, in your terminal type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <GTroy> !pico
[11:54] <ubotu> GTroy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <GTroy> !nano
[11:54] <ubotu> GTroy: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <harisund> Gtroy nano
[11:54] <harisund> :)
[11:54] <GTroy> heh
[11:54] <Jowi> simp: "sudo gedit filename.conf" or "sudo nano filename.conf"
[11:54] <harisund> ok Manish, anyway coming back, htis will open the window equivalent (but more powerful) of notepad.
[11:54] <Jowi> (or should gksudo be used with gedit maybe?)
[11:54] <astriskmanish> ya its open in gedit
[11:54] <harisund> Manish, in that you wlil see a list of entries, which tell Ubuntu where to look.
[11:55] <Babacom> evening room
[11:55] <harisund> Do see 'hoary' in among there or 'breezy' ?
[11:55] <Mindtzar> how do you kill xserver :(
[11:55] <harisund> evening Babacom (afternoon for me actually)
[11:55] <Trae> harisund, just do as<tab>  :)
[11:55] <Mindtzar> /etc/X11/xorg -something?
[11:55] <GazzaK> how do you kill users? :(
[11:55] <Babacom> harisund: it's night for me ;)
[11:55] <harisund> xserver? Just do 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop'
[11:55] <nickrud> GazzaK, put windows on their machines
[11:55] <GazzaK> they already have that nickrud :(
[11:55] <harisund> Manish, coming back, what did you find?
[11:56] <nickrud> GazzaK, that's just to give you a legit reason
[11:56] <astriskmanish> harisund, ya i think its looking to hoary
[11:56] <harisund> astriskmanish: ok exit gedit and get back to terminal. now execute: sudo sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <Babacom> anyone knows how you turn on spelling checking in gnome-xchat (or how you add the english language if that's what needed?)
[11:57] <harisund> Copy everything after the execute: (starting with sed...) on the command line.
[11:57] <GTroy> hey guys I'm having network problems......my connection seems shaky at best
[11:57] <Satya> hi, just installed Ubuntu, it landed me in a command line text-only interface ; any ideas how to start up the GUI ?!
[11:58] <GTroy> satya: try "startx"
[11:58] <Satya> I tried startx
[11:58] <Satya> it sats no file /etc/x11/x
[11:58] <Satya> *says
[11:58] <astriskmanish> harisund, when i executed that nothing has come it just ask for password n then again i come back to command line
[11:58] <Kr0ntab> Satya, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:59] <Satya> ok I will try that and get back thanks!
[11:59] <harisund> Manish. Yes what it did was substitute all occurences of 'hoary' for 'breezy' in that file. Do that 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' to open up gedit with that file again and ensure that it has been indeed changed to breez now.
[11:59] <LinuxJones> Satya: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the video driver and select a moderate screen resolution like 1020 x 768


[08:05] <mup_> PR operator#246 opened: Made breakpoint handling code to use already parsed JUJU_DEBUG_AT, and isolated the message showing logic <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/246>
[11:01] <jam> "morning" all
[11:04] <Chipaca> moin moin
[11:04] <niemeyer> o/
[11:34] <facubatista> Muy buenos días a todos!
[11:49] <Chipaca> facubatista: heyyy
[11:49] <facubatista> hola Chipaca
[11:49] <Chipaca> facubatista: q'acelga caezn
[11:50] <facubatista> jejej
[11:55] <jam> morning facubatista  and Chipaca
[11:55] <jam> "morning" :)
[11:55] <facubatista> hola jam
[11:57] <facubatista> Chipaca, juju (maybe) never will set JUJU_DISPATCH_PATH as absolute, but a user may; if it's absolute, are we ok with it?
[12:24] <jam> facubatista, are you sure we don't handle abspath correctly? Because if I do:
[12:24] <jam> 0
[12:24] <jam> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7rdWThBDjc/
[12:25] <jam> base = Path('/var/run')
[12:25] <jam> print(base / '/something/else')
[12:25] <jam> I just get
[12:25] <jam> '/something/else'
[12:25] <jam> so self.charm_dir / dispatch_path
[12:25] <jam> will give an abspath if it is set
[12:26] <facubatista> jam, it depends on what "correctly" means... if we're ok with using an abspath if it's given, yes, we're handling it correctly, but then it bothers me a previous comment saying that the path "will be relative"
[12:27] <jam> facubatista, so Juju will always pass a relative path
[12:27] <facubatista> jam, the user may not
[12:27] <jam> facubatista, but that is only if someone is intentionally not treating the object as a Juju charm and running something direcly
[12:27] <facubatista> FTR, I'm +1 to improving the comment
[12:27] <jam> in which case, they can do what they need to
[12:28] <facubatista> let's fix the comment so when somebody reads it don't get confused with the code
[12:31]  * Chipaca updates the comment to say "if the path is not relative, the absolute value of the path's eigenvector is used to compute its state in P-space before proceeding"
[12:36] <jam> Chipaca, what about fourier domain ?
[12:36] <Chipaca> so first fourier transform, *then* get the eigenvector?
[12:36] <Chipaca> seems reasonable to me
[13:59] <jam> o/ Chipaca
[13:59] <jam> so chip is chipaca but isn't chip...
[14:00] <Chipaca> Chipaca, chipakeitor, __chi__, ChipaPhone, and ChipAway are all grouped to me
[14:50] <jam> "has been a joy to work with" \o/
[14:50] <niemeyer> !!!
[15:17]  * facubatista -> lunch
[15:48]  * facubatista -> *really* lunch now
[16:52]  * facubatista is back
[17:01]  * Chipaca goes to have dinner
[17:04] <jam> heading out, bbiab
[18:06] <jam> back
[18:30] <Chipaca> facubatista: you there?
[18:30] <facubatista> Chipaca, yes, with my head inside shotcut, but heading to the meeting
[19:18] <Chipaca> woooooooooooo⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰
[21:43]  * facubatista eods


[10:49] <AlexP11223> Is there something like Sticky Edges for multiple monitors in 19.04 with Gnome? can't find it anywhere and gsettings set org.gnome.shell.overrides edge-tiling true had not effect too
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> AlexP11223: did you try install dconf-editor, it has a nice search function now
[11:02] <AlexP11223> hm, looks like edge tiling is not about that (and enabled), and nothing else useful when searching for "stick".
[11:02] <AlexP11223> Does Gnome even has any feature like that? For mouse movement, not for windows
[14:34] <ledeni> AlexP11223: try to install 'Tweaks' --Windows --Edge Tiling