[05:05] <hikiko> Hi
[05:19] <TheMuso> Hey hikiko.
[05:20] <hikiko> Hi TheMuso :-)
[06:15] <pitti> Good morning
[07:57] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:00] <flexiondotorg> Morning
[08:02] <Laney> cough cough spluttery cough
[08:02] <seb128> hey Laney flexiondotorg davmor2
[08:02] <pitti> Laney: morning! argh, got a cold?
[08:02] <Laney> hey seb128 & pitti, how are you?
[08:02] <flexiondotorg> Laney, seb128 pitti o/
[08:02] <pitti> bonjour seb128, hey flexiondotorg!
[08:02] <Laney> pitti: a bit; the cold phase is over and now the cough phase is setting in
[08:03] <flexiondotorg> Laney, sounds like hot toddy season then.
[08:04] <Laney> Mmm
[08:04] <Laney> I might go out to Boots and get one of those really thick cough syrups
[08:04] <seb128> don't feel like you have to bring it for next week ;-)
[08:04]  * seb128 sends Laney back to bed with some tea
[08:05] <seb128> you need rest and to get better!
[08:05] <Laney> bah, next week
[08:05] <Laney> it needs to be better by friday!
[08:05] <seb128> beer drinking is not what you need to recover!
[08:09] <flexiondotorg> Beer makes everything better
[08:09] <Laney> It'll erase all memories of the illness, and if I can't remember it then it didn't happen
[08:10] <davmor2> Laney: get some broncho stop pastilles not the syrup
[08:10] <Laney> wtf
[08:10] <Laney> broncho stop sounds terrifying
[08:10] <Laney> I could get some of those bricks from down the road and go walk into the Trent too
[08:12] <davmor2> Laney: we found them to be the most effective cough remedy and because they are pastilles you can carry them around with you
[08:14] <Laney> davmor2: thanks for the tip :P
[08:14] <davmor2> Laney: just looking you for you dude :)
[08:15] <willcooke> sigh
[08:15] <willcooke> am I really here
[08:16] <seb128> oh, I was going to comment on wether the flu got you down
[08:16] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:17] <willcooke> internet is all screwy today it seems
[08:18] <davmor2> willcooke: this is not the internet you are paying for........droids and looking damn it I'll get that quote right one of these times ;)
[08:19] <willcooke> :)
[08:19] <willcooke> seb128, Laney flexiondotorg - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1578810
[08:19] <willcooke> I'm not sure about this one
[08:19] <willcooke> Because I tried the wireshark example, and its fine for me
[08:19] <willcooke> (comment 12_
[08:19] <willcooke> )
[08:26] <flexiondotorg> willcooke, I'll take a look at wireshark.
[08:26] <flexiondotorg> Do an install with the new iso now.
[08:26] <willcooke> I just loaded it here, started a capture and it looks fine
[08:27] <willcooke> flexiondotorg, they're talking about X
[08:27] <flexiondotorg> willcooke, You mentioned your working on "docs" explaining what to install in a Unity 8 session to make it more complete.
[08:27] <flexiondotorg> ANy chance you can put that somewhere to collaborate?
[08:28] <flexiondotorg> Ah, OK. Xenial.
[08:28] <willcooke> sent you a link
[08:29] <TheMuso> Hey folks.
[08:30] <willcooke> hey TheMuso
[08:34] <seb128> willcooke, wireshark looks fine on my xenial
[08:34] <willcooke> yeah
[08:34] <willcooke> odd
[08:38] <seb128> in any case https://code.launchpad.net/~malaperle/ubuntu-themes/ubuntu-themes/+merge/294568 seems like it oculd makes sense to me
[08:38] <seb128> to be confirmed by somebody who is more familiar with gtk css though
[08:38] <seb128> so you willcooke or Laney :-)
[08:38] <willcooke> seb128, I think you mean flexiondotorg ;P
[08:38] <seb128> haha
[08:38] <seb128> or him!
[08:38]  * flexiondotorg ducks
[08:39] <willcooke> lol
[08:39] <seb128> flexiondotorg, congrats on being our new theme maintainer
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> Ummm.
[08:39] <seb128> :-)
[08:39] <willcooke> it's a trap
[08:39] <willcooke> they did that to me
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> And I'm in it now.
[08:40] <seb128> you guys don't get to complain
[08:40] <seb128> it used to be that the newest team member gets to maintain compiz
[08:40] <seb128> you can ask didrocks
[08:40] <willcooke> ooohhhhh
[08:40] <willcooke> harsh
[08:40] <willcooke> lol
[08:40] <flexiondotorg> Let's just all agree to stick with GTK 3.22 for-ev-er! ;-)
[08:40] <willcooke> +1
[08:44] <didrocks> yep!
[08:54] <seb128> isn't that was upstream is sort of doing?
[08:54] <seb128> I think they are preparing things for the next gtk
[08:54] <seb128> so 3.2x should stop changing in the next cycle(s)
[08:55] <flexiondotorg> Yep, that is how I understand it.
[08:57] <Laney> That doesn't let you off maintaining the theme
[08:57] <Laney> It has to work with the newer versions
[08:59] <seb128> right, but it let you off fixing applications that didn't change just because gtk update is slightly incompatible
[09:00] <jbicha> flexiondotorg: it just increases your fun because you'll get to maintain the theme for gtk2 and gtk3 and gtk4, etc.
[09:00] <jbicha> good morning
[09:00] <seb128> hey jbicha
[09:00] <seb128> well "maintain"
[09:00] <seb128> gtk2 and gtk3 themes don't have reasons to require more work if you are happy with the current look of things
[09:03] <Laney> I think you'll end up doing all the changes you otherwise would have done, just to a new branch and not the existing one
[09:04] <Laney> It's of course true to say that things built against the old version won't change appearance
[09:05] <seb128> right, theme work is the same
[09:05] <seb128> but thinks like eclipse or libreoffice looking wrong because gtk changed under theme and confuse their code is going to get better
[09:06] <seb128> things*
[09:06] <seb128> theme->them
[09:06] <seb128> no going around looking what UI are buggy after a gtk update
[09:06] <seb128> you just get to check things that you opt in to use the new version
[09:06] <seb128> which is much easier to manage
[09:07] <Laney> k, I think that's what I said so we agree
[09:07] <seb128> seems so
[09:07] <seb128> good :-)
[09:07] <seb128> Laney, btw how was your dns this morning?
[09:08] <seb128> still had to restart things manually?
[09:08] <Laney> it worked actually
[09:08] <Laney> I didn't use the laptop in between last night though
[09:09] <Laney> not sure if that was a factor or not
[10:12] <Laney> Going out to find some of those lung stopper things what davmor2 recommended
[10:12] <Laney> back in a few
[10:29] <seb128> Trevinho, bug #1632656 seems a new segfault in yakkety
[10:30] <Trevinho> mh, yeah, might bee a new one... It shoud happen during shutdown though... I also thought I had a branch, but maybe it was fixed in something not merged yet
[10:31] <seb128> k
[10:31] <seb128> hey Trevinho btw :-) how are you?
[10:31] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, good... Still some cough, but not bad
[10:31] <Trevinho> seb128: you?
[10:34] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[10:52]  * Laney meows
[10:52] <Laney> davmor2: that cat was basically tripping me up all the way down the street
[10:52] <Laney> EXTREMELY friendly
[10:52] <davmor2> Laney: hahahaha
[10:53] <Laney> some guy in a car laughed at me
[10:54] <davmor2> Laney: I can only assume you smell of catnip, fish or Dreamies :D
[10:57]  * willcooke sniffs laney
[10:57] <willcooke> OT: Why is all royalty free music bobbins
[10:59] <davmor2> willcooke: because it is royalty free ;)  have a look and see if blind divine still have some CC music
[12:27] <ricotz> Sweet5hark1, hi, please note that the libreoffice source are split, so if you apply a patch to the binary code which doesnt affect the translation, you don't have to upload/rebuild the l10n package
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, firefox looks awful in yakkety (with the bold outline around the awesomebar and searchbar). Who broke the theming? ;)
[15:40] <seb128> gtk upstream!
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> can I statically link the old gtk in to firefox? It really does look bad
[15:41] <seb128> the theme needs tweaks I guess
[15:42] <chrisccoulson> Perhaps I should use firefox a bit more
[15:42] <seb128> nobody reported the issue?
[15:42] <seb128> is that new from firefox 49?
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> seb128, I'm not sure, I've not been using yakkety that long
[15:44] <seb128> flexiondotorg was looking at some firefox theming issues I think
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> I was only joking about the static linking thing btw ;)
[15:45] <seb128> I know :-)
[15:45] <seb128> chrisccoulson, https://code.launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/ubuntu-themes/lp1624738/+merge/308032
[15:46] <chrisccoulson> seb128, ah, excellent. Thanks :)
[15:46] <seb128> yw
[15:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/ubuntu-themes/lp1478173/+merge/308124
[15:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/ubuntu-themes/lp1631208/+merge/307899
[15:46] <seb128> those as well
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> That's good. I'm glad those are being worked on :)
[15:47] <seb128> :-)
[15:48] <seb128> shame that was not on time to land on the iso
[15:48]  * willcooke sings the respin song
[15:48] <seb128> lol
[15:48] <seb128> better to sing to the post LTS version song
[15:48] <seb128> :-)
[15:48] <flexiondotorg> seb128, Yeah, I'm workin on those FF tweaks.
[15:49] <flexiondotorg> I've improved my tooling in the process to catch what Laney observed.
[15:49] <willcooke> seb128, :D
[16:12] <Laney> oh it's hardly awful, don't be over dramatic
[16:23] <seb128> time for some sport, bbl
[16:30] <Laney> bye seb128!
[16:30] <Laney> sport well, sport hard, sport often
[17:26] <davmor2> Laney: how's the cough now?
[17:27] <Laney> still there, but acceptable
[17:27] <Laney> going to skip climbing to let it get a bit better though /o\
[19:37] <willcooke> 3rd attempt to capture this screencast without something crashing halfway through
[19:38] <willcooke> or running out of disk space
[20:41] <willcooke> night all
[21:45] <Laney> ah man
[21:46] <Laney> firefox done forgot my history
[21:48] <TheMuso> Laney: Wow never heard of that happening before.
[22:45] <sarnold> firefox without history: modern-day equivalent of a lobotomy?


[00:09] <daftykins> zxmpi_: swamped?
[00:10] <zxmpi_> damp day. died after half an hour of walking in the wet
[00:11] <daftykins> D:
[00:11] <zxmpi_> maybe they'll come back to life when they dry out, happened last time
[00:11] <daftykins> must be that robo hip of yours, moving too fast!
[00:13] <zxmpi_> enjoying the last few days of autumn. leaves haven't fallen off trees yet in great numbers. in a few weeks they will and the rain will make them super slippery for folks on canes and crutches :-(
[00:13] <zxmpi_> then my walking speed will drop about 10%
[00:15] <daftykins> :<
[00:19] <zxmpi_> will just have to slum it with wired nokia headset till i find a replacement or headset comes back to life
[00:19] <zxmpi_> on plus side, wired means fm radio works \o/
[00:22] <daftykins> :)
[00:22] <daftykins> you got 'em on a spot to dry out?
[00:34] <zxmpi_> in a spot with sunlight and breeze
[08:13] <zxmpi_> https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-review new shiny
[12:19] <m0nkey_> I dont even use the Pi Zero W I already have.. I got mine for an experiment that failed.
[12:20] <daftykins> :(
[12:23] <m0nkey_> I was going to use it as an OctoPi controller for my 3D printer, but the Pi Zero just didn't have enough HP to run the software without stutter, which in turn caused the printer to stutter.
[12:23] <m0nkey_> What I really need is a Pi4, which I will get soon
[22:32] <m0nkey_> ooh, i have new shiny. Thinkpad T14s Ryzen 7 4750U, 32GB RAM.
[22:33] <daftykins> :O
[22:34] <zxmpi_> now cover it in my little pony stickers :-P
[22:38] <m0nkey_> First thing is rearrange the desk so I can have have the dock hooked up to the kb, mouse and monitor.
[22:38] <zxmpi_> dock as well. nice
[22:39] <m0nkey_> It's USB-C I think.. because the DP can't drive my 144Hz monitor, I had to run it at 100Hz
[22:39] <m0nkey_> Yup, USB-C, it says so on the back.