[00:03] <disappearedng> Hey where should I go if I have a question about make files?
[00:04] <eeee> disappearedng: are you writing a make file for a program?
[00:04] <disappearedng> eeee: no I want to add an additional parameter to this makefile
[00:05] <eeee> it's in c right? try #c
[00:05] <disappearedng> eeee: eh not really, it's in #arduino but it's not really an arduino question more like gcc-make file question
[00:06] <aguitel> ubuntu 14.04.1 is up ?
[00:06] <eeee> disappearedng: man gcc? what exactly are you trying to do?
[00:07] <daftykins> aguitel: no
[00:07] <eeee> (i meant, "man gcc" the manual btw, not dissing gcc :-)
[00:07] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what is the POSIX equivalent of this command? echo "body_text" | mailx -s "subject" -S smtp-use-starttls -S ssl-verify=ignore -S smtp-auth=login -S smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587 -S from="email_address" -S<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-S smtp-auth-password="pass" -S ssl-verify=ignore receiving_email_address
[00:07] <OerHeks> aguitel, July 24th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[00:07] <aguitel> OerHeks: daftykins thanks
[00:08] <mojtaba> It seems the -S option is not conform posix.
[00:08] <daftykins> mojtaba: off topic.
[00:08] <mojtaba> daftykins: do you know where can I find the answer?
[00:09] <daftykins> mojtaba: no, but please stop using this channel as your substitute for research and online searching :P
[00:10] <mojtaba> daftykins: Actually I could not find anything in google.
[00:10] <mojtaba> daftykins: thx anyway.
[00:13] <TheFlagCourier> Try searching with quotes around the -s flag. Otherwise search engines tend to exclude them (or anything with a negative in front, unless math)
[00:18] <disappearedng> eeee: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24856173/makefile-customizing-variables this is my question
[00:20] <daftykins> disappearedng: try in #linux also
[00:20] <iamwhoiam> hello people. Is archive.ubuntu.com down? cant seem to be able to make update (or install) work
[00:21] <daftykins> iamwhoiam: seems ok here, though that doesn't rule out our locations ^_^
[00:21] <Shadow}}> Hello. BleachBit(As Root) keeps freezing during the cleaning of /var/cache/archives/blahblah. Is it safe to simply manually delete the contents of the /var/cache/archives (May be /var/archives/cache, Not sure sure now)
[00:22] <daftykins> Shadow}}: /var/cache/apt/archives/ would contain downloaded packages, these can be purged via "sudo apt-get clean"
[00:22] <daftykins> perhaps doing so prior would solve your issue
[00:22] <Shadow}}> Ah thats right. In fact think it was you who told me that the first time more or less... Least you were here helping me another issue at the time.
[00:23] <Shadow}}> *with. Thanks daftykins
[00:23] <daftykins> D: i don't recall that
[00:23] <daftykins> i'm a little worried there's another daftykins now
[00:24] <Shadow}}> Yeahh. Or you inputted on an issue I had involving network-manager or synapse bleeding edge... One of em. Hard to forget your nickname in only a week's time.
[00:24] <Shadow}}> Naww. Was you, Same attitude. Also the only other person I've seen use emotes here... Hah...
[00:25] <daftykins> XD
[00:25] <Shadow}}> Anyway. I got a jump scare when YouTube gave me Deja Vu and looped half a second of footage, So I'll see ya next time. o/
[00:26] <Shadow}}> By that I mean I'm a very paranoid person for no reason other than reasons that exist, And find solitude in doing pointless security routines! Tata~
[00:29] <iamwhoiam> daftykins: removed the region prefix from all sources...
[00:30] <daftykins> ah so you weren't using archive.
[00:30] <daftykins> but blah.archive.
[00:31] <iamwhoiam> daftykins: yeap :S
[00:32] <iamwhoiam> daftykins: thought it was by default - meaning that all sources have such region prefix depending the installation..
[00:32] <iamwhoiam> daftykins: apparently it is not the case..
[00:32] <daftykins> iamwhoiam: i think it tries, yeah
[00:41] <Helsinkiii> hi. I'm running 12.04, and often when I'm loading many tabs at once, my whole system will crash and the only way out is a hard reset
[00:42] <Helsinkiii> I was wondering how to find the cause of the kernel panic
[00:42] <jay__> hello. my internet is ridiculously slow and i don't know why. nothing has changed. our other laptop upstairs works perfectly with wifi. this laptop doesn't. i tried restarting the modem and router and then the pc. i'm outta ideas
[00:42] <Helsinkiii> and many tabs...in Firefox. my bad
[00:42] <jay__> also, i'm on MX-14 a debian distro but not one there is answering me
[00:42] <daftykins> we do not support non-ubuntu, sorry.
[00:42] <jay__> but it's a wireless issue :(
[00:42] <OerHeks> Helsinkiii, maybe your cheap router cannot handle such number of connections
[00:43] <daftykins> but wireless is controlled by software, which is the OS :(
[00:43] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, it only happens on this machine
[00:43] <jay__> dangit. thanks anyways
[00:44] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, this computer is connected to wifi via a PCI card that I recall to be almost impossible to get working properly
[00:44] <OerHeks> Helsinkiii, another step: try memtest86 to see if ram is failing?
[00:45] <Shadow}}> Is it "sudo apt-get clean"?
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, I'll run it now, will get back to you in a few
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, thanks
[00:45] <OerHeks> Helsinkiii, if wired gives no issues, then it could be your wificard
[00:45] <OerHeks> that would be step 3
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, i wish I could get a wire up here
[00:45] <victoria__> hello
[00:45] <victoria__> i need some help with 14.04
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, do the hard crashes do anything bad to my system?
[00:45] <victoria__> i am a dummie pls
[00:46] <victoria__> wlan
[00:46] <victoria__> iwconfig
[00:46] <OerHeks> Helsinkiii, a softwarecrash is unlikely to make hardware errors
[00:46] <daftykins> victoria__: ask a question on one line
[00:46] <victoria__> okey thanks
[00:46] <Shadow}}> daftykins: Is it "sudo apt-get clean"?
[00:46] <daftykins> Shadow}}: yep
[00:47] <Shadow}}> daftykins: Isn't working. o.o
[00:47] <Shadow}}> Which is odd cause I know it works...done it a few times before.
[00:47] <daftykins> are you sure it's not empty already
[00:47] <daftykins> you know running it won't produce any output, right?
[00:48] <Shadow}}> What? Really? I swear last time I watched it delete stuff.
[00:48] <Shadow}}> Thanks anyway xD
[00:48] <Shadow}}> Oh wait, That was "Details" on the updates I did just before the clean...
[00:49] <victoria__> anybody who knows about wlan0 pls
[00:50] <Shadow}}> victoria__, They can't help you less you phrase the problem about wlan itself.
[00:50] <daftykins> victoria__: ok so "ifconfig -a" lists no wireless interface huh? you need to identify your wireless hardware and potentially install a driver to enable it
[00:51] <victoria__> hum
[00:51] <daftykins> ah no you do get an interface
[00:51] <victoria__> wait, please let me see
[00:52] <Shadow}}> Nvm apparently daftykins is an exception? Lets see... I updated everything, I cleaned everything... Hm... Oh, is it "sudo service network-manager restart"?
[00:52] <victoria__> huh? i dont understand, sorry i am a dummie
[00:53] <victoria__> please, i need step by step: so like "copy and put"
[00:53] <daftykins> i'm way too tired for that
[00:53] <victoria__> please
[00:54] <Shadow}}> Wait dafty! Is that line I said correct? Before you run off. o-o
[00:54] <victoria__> who can i see which driver i need
[00:54] <Ben64> victoria__: start with the command daftykins suggested.... "ifconfig -a" and pastebin it for us
[00:54] <Ben64> !pastebin | victoria__
[00:54] <victoria__> okey thanks: here i am going
[00:55] <victoria__> ~$ ifconfig -a
[00:55] <victoria__> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:25:64:48:32:c7
[00:55] <victoria__>           inet Adresse:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Maske:<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:55] <victoria__>           inet6-Adresse: fe80::225:64ff:fe48:32c7/64 Gültigkeitsbereich:Verbindung
[00:55] <victoria__>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metrik:1
[00:55] <victoria__>           RX-Pakete:4438 Fehler:0 Verloren:0 Überläufe:0 Fenster:0
[00:55] <victoria__>           TX-Pakete:4347 Fehler:0 Verloren:0 Überläufe:0 Träger:0
[00:55] <victoria__>           Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:1000
[00:55] <victoria__>           RX-Bytes:3603541 (3.6 MB)  TX-Bytes:672409 (672.4 KB)
[00:55] <victoria__>           Interrupt:18
[00:56] <victoria__> lo        Link encap:Lokale Schleife
[00:56] <victoria__>           inet Adresse:<IP_ADDRESS>  Maske:<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:56] <victoria__>           inet6-Adresse: ::1/128 Gültigkeitsbereich:Maschine
[00:56] <victoria__>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metrik:1
[00:56] <victoria__>           RX-Pakete:733 Fehler:0 Verloren:0 Überläufe:0 Fenster:0
[00:56] <Ben64> victoria__: pastebin! do not paste in the channel! i even sent you the message about pastebin!
[00:56] <victoria__>           TX-Pakete:733 Fehler:0 Verloren:0 Überläufe:0 Träger:0
[00:56] <victoria__>           Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:0
[00:56] <victoria__>           RX-Bytes:71628 (71.6 KB)  TX-Bytes:71628 (71.6 KB)
[00:56] <victoria__> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:22:5f:e1:9a:37
[00:56] <victoria__>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metrik:1
[00:56] <Fall> ":<
[00:56] <victoria__>           RX-Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Verloren:0 Überläufe:0 Fenster:0
[00:56] <victoria__>           TX-Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Verloren:0 Überläufe:0 Träger:0
[00:56] <victoria__>           Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:1000
[00:56] <wheatthin> victoria, please stop pasting
[00:56] <Shadow}}> I'm running now.
[00:56] <victoria__>           RX-Bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX-Bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[00:56] <wheatthin> use pastbinit
[00:56] <victoria__> sorry maybe it is to much :$
[00:56] <victoria__> :$ sorryyyy
[00:56] <daftykins> and it's auf deutsch
[00:56] <Ben64> !pastebin | victoria__
[00:56] <victoria__> pastbinit?
[00:56] <Ben64> victoria__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[00:57] <Ben64> if it is more than one line, ALWAYS use a pastebin
[00:57] <victoria__> ok, docki, i tried it
[00:59] <victoria__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7827804/
[00:59] <victoria__> pastebin is amazing :)
[00:59] <Nordom> anyone here experienced with VT-d stuff and using VMs such as xen?
[01:00] <PCworker> When using a Ubuntu Live CD to install it onto a desktop computer, What do you recommend to be the mount point? there are several choices. I usually use "/" for the mount point.
[01:00] <victoria__> pls i posted on pastebin i'm waiting some help thank you all
[01:01] <Beldar> PCworker, / is the standard use.
[01:02] <victoria__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7827813/
[01:02] <victoria__> please i need some help
[01:02] <PCworker> Beldar: Thanks, just wanted to know that I was doing it right.
[01:03] <Beldar> PCworker, always good to be sure.
[01:04] <Nordom> Anyone experied with VT-d stuff and Xen? I just want to pick someones brain about the topic
[01:04] <daftykins> Xen's not even really the recommended virt tech to use on ubuntu
[01:05] <daftykins> victoria__: "rfkill list all | pastebinit"
[01:05] <victoria__> okes, thanki you i try it now
[01:07] <victoria__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7827825/
[01:07] <Nordom> Daftykins why do you say that?
[01:07] <daftykins> because they chose to back KVM
[01:07] <victoria__> i think it have to be appear "no" on the hard blocked, right?
[01:08] <daftykins> yes
[01:08] <daftykins> victoria__: your wireless switch is turned off
[01:08] <victoria__> so, how can i turned it on
[01:08] <victoria__> i don't know that
[01:09] <daftykins> it's either a sliding button somewhere or a keypress of Fn+ a function key (F1 - F12)
[01:11] <victoria__> nothing happend on my dell  lap top
[01:11] <victoria__> the "wireless" button is doesn't work :$
[01:12] <daftykins> so you identified it?
[01:13] <victoria__> well, i see the button here "F2" in my case...but nothing happend, the other button are working normally
[01:13] <cak_salim> Hi there, has anyone ever used dropbox api?
[01:13] <daftykins> victoria__: and you used "Fn" with it?
[01:13] <daftykins> cak_salim: third party software is off topic i'm afraid
[01:13] <victoria__> on the same time? so tried- nothing happend
[01:13] <cak_salim> ok
[01:14] <daftykins> victoria__: re-run the rfkill command to see if it changed
[01:14] <victoria__> just "rfkill" ?
[01:14] <daftykins> no same as before
[01:15] <victoria__> ohhhhhhhhh
[01:15] <daftykins> i'm guessing that's a pleased shock
[01:15] <victoria__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7827855/
[01:15] <Nordom> daftykins: I did a search on google for xen problems on ubuntu and surpisingly found very few
[01:16] <victoria__> i feel very stupid :$
[01:16] <daftykins> Nordom: yep nobody uses it :D
[01:16] <victoria__> and now? my i going to the root and then "reboot"?
[01:16] <daftykins> victoria__: if you click on network manager do you see networks now?
[01:16] <victoria__> so easyyyyyy
[01:16] <feitingen> Nordom: we used it many years ago, and moved on to libvirt
[01:17] <victoria__> oh my god, and i was lucking for a solution on the internet for hours!
[01:17] <victoria__> thank you daftykins!!!
[01:17] <victoria__> :*
[01:17] <victoria__> :$
[01:17] <daftykins> no problem, you may bake me a cake as a thank you
[01:17] <victoria__> ehehehe
[01:18] <Nordom> feitingen: what is libvirt?
[01:20] <feitingen> Nordom: a wrapper around qemu/kvm, makes life a bit easier
[01:20] <Nordom> feitingen: for Ubuntu or a different OS?
[01:21] <feitingen> Nordom: linux in general :) http://libvirt.org/
[01:22] <Nordom> well I am planning on making a linux gaming machine using vt-d and wanted to pick peoples brains about it
[01:22] <Nordom> daftykins said it was a bad idea with ubuntu
[01:22] <Nordom> and thats all I have collected so far
[01:23] <daftykins> nah i just meant it's not supported
[01:23] <tlanix> iam trying to decide between ubuntu and manjaro
[01:24] <tlanix> iam looking for a good usb writer program
[01:24] <Nordom> daftykins: do you think I will encounter lots of problems? I first used ubuntu, and would prefer to stick with it if possible
[01:24] <feitingen> Nordom: doesn't matter, passing graphics cards to VM's are not supported anyways
[01:24] <TJ-> feitingen: Yes it is
[01:24] <Nordom> TJ-: WB
[01:24] <daftykins> tlanix: 'usb writer' - do you mean to put an ISO onto a flash drive and make it bootable?
[01:24] <TJ-> feitingen: Both Xen and QEMU have do VT-d passthrough
[01:25] <TJ-> s/have/can/
[01:25] <tlanix> yes
[01:26] <feitingen> TJ-: there has been efforts passing through a secondary graphics card on KVM, but i can't seem to uninitialize the primary graphics card so it can be passed through
[01:26] <daftykins> i'm going to guess that it's a headless server
[01:26] <daftykins> and that you're not trying to reallocate an in-use card XD
[01:27] <daftykins> oh, wrong user anyway
[01:27] <daftykins> nevermind
[01:27] <GeekDude> running "screen -D -m <thing>" is freezing my ssh session for some reason. Simple fix?
[01:28] <TJ-> feitingen: No, you can't pass the primary since the host needs it in most cases for its console, unless it is totally headless, but for additional GPUs passthrough is entirely possible
[01:28] <TJ-> feitingen: E.g. I have 3 GPUs on my laptop and can pass 2 to VM guests via VT-d passthrough
[01:31] <koell> TJ-: what do you do in the VM guests? playing games? :D
[01:31] <GeekDude> lowercase d
[01:31] <GeekDude> got it
[01:31] <Nordom> TJ-: feitingen: I dont understand most of your conversation, but from my limited knowledge by utilizing VT-d capable CPU and mobo you can utilize the GPU in the VPM as the VM has the drivers installed not the main OS. And VT-d basically allows the VM to point at main OS (or maybe the otherway around) so the main OS can see the GPU info and send it to the correct PCI slot.... (but l'm nub)
[01:31] <feitingen> TJ-: that's what i meant, you can't pass through the primary one, even if it's totally headless
[01:32] <TJ-> koell: Not into playing games, I use them as tools for development work of various kinds... e.g. fully testing builds of Ubuntu in-development packages to assure that accelerated graphics bugs are fixed, whilst still having full control of the system from the host
[01:34] <rawfodog> I'm trying to install ubuntu one client on my windows pc to get my files off the soon to be discontinued service. The program is unavailable for download now. What can I do? the webclient wont batch download, its going to take me hours to do it manually
[01:34] <feitingen> Nordom: yes, but you need at least two GPUs, one for the server, the rest for the VM(s)
[01:36] <TJ-> Nordom: Unless the system is headless (has only a serial or network console and no video drivers in the kernel), then the primary VGA chipset will be used by the host. However, Xen 4.x can passthrough the primary VGA.
[01:36] <feitingen> TJ-: might be fun to have a go at android-x86, the latest 4.4-rc2 is pretty good
[01:37] <allons-y> hi
[01:37] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, hey, ran it for nearly 50 minutes, got  0 errors.
[01:37] <allons-y> I get a Missing operating system error when I try to boot from a USB
[01:37] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, i remember running it in the past for a few hrs and I also got 0 errors
[01:37] <allons-y> What I want to do is to install Ubuntu from that USB
[01:37] <TJ-> feitingen: I think I have enough on my plate :)
[01:38] <feitingen> allons-y: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ i use this one
[01:38] <Helsinkiii> OerHeks, my question is...how do I know it's a wifi driver issue and not a kernel issue? Can it simply be a misunderstanding between both and not necessarily a problem with either one?
[01:38] <allons-y> Also I did feitingen
[01:39] <Rexter> I'm getting my ass kicked on installing a Canon printer.
[01:39] <feitingen> allons-y: did you "eject" or "safely remove" the usb after you made it bootable?
[01:39] <Rexter> It's a pixma MX922, it works perfectly on my 14.04 machine, but I can't finder the driver on my 12.04 machine.
[01:39] <allons-y> sure
[01:39] <allons-y> safely remove
[01:40] <allons-y> Formated as FAT32
[01:40] <allons-y> It's a BIOS problem
[01:40] <allons-y> What it does (my pc) when I turn it on
[01:41] <allons-y> and with the USB stick on
[01:41] <allons-y> and with the right configuration of the BIOS in order to boot from USB
[01:41] <allons-y> is put that message
[01:41] <allons-y> "Missing operating system"
[01:41] <allons-y> just for one second
[01:41] <andrej> I have a couple of machines that need a kernel patch which hasn't made it into mainstream (yet?) ... are there any frameworks in Ubuntu that will allow for an automatic patch & rebuild when a new kernel gets applied via security/update?
[01:41] <allons-y> and then goes to grub
[01:41] <TJ-> allons-y: did you set the boot active flag on the partition on the USB device?
[01:42] <allons-y> TJ-: I used unetbootin, so I guess that the program did it
[01:42] <Rexter> I have a Pixma MX922 printer. I'm trying too install on Ubuntu 12.04. I can't find the driver.
[01:42] <feitingen> Rexter: usb?
[01:43] <TJ-> allons-y: It's worth checking, I dealt with a fail-to-boot issue last week which turned out to be a buggy BIOS that won't boot from a device unless it has a primary partition with its boot flag set
[01:43] <Rexter> feitingen, No network.
[01:43] <allons-y> TJ-: mmm interesting, How can I check it?
[01:44] <Rexter> feitengen, I also have another machine running 14.04, and it pretty much installed on it's own, and works great. I can see it on the network from 12.04, but I can't finder the right driver.
[01:45] <Rexter> feitingen, I even tried using the PPD file I stole from the 14.04 machine, but I didn't get a anywhere with using that.
[01:45] <feitingen> Rexter: i'm guessing you're not at liberty to install 14.04 on it?
[01:45] <daftykins> Rexter: via the CUPS web admin?
[01:46] <TJ-> allons-y: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX" and look for the asterisk next to a partition
[01:46] <feitingen> Rexter: i'm no good with cups, so i'd try installing the cups packages from 14.04.
[01:47] <daftykins> that's... terrible advice
[01:47] <daftykins> i like it
[01:47] <Rexter> feitingen, daftykins, it may come to that, but not ready to do so yet. Yes I'm using the system-config-printer utility.
[01:48] <Rexter> feitingen, how would I do that?
[01:48] <TJ-> Rexter: have you tried "http://localhost:631/" ?
[01:48] <Rexter> TJ, I don't understand what you mean?
[01:48] <TJ-> Rexter: The CUPS management interface
[01:48] <daftykins> Rexter: remember the CUPS web admin i asked if you'd used? yeah. that.
[01:49] <TJ-> Rexter: You may be able to install/customise the drivers better from there
[01:49] <Rexter> TJ, daftykins, sorry I didn't  know there was such a thing
[01:50] <Rexter> TJ, daftykins, would it show additional drivers?
[01:50] <andrej> OK, failing an existing framework for patching ... :)
[01:50] <TJ-> Rexter: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/cups.html#cups-web
[01:50] <andrej> Are there ways to add hooks to installation processes that aren't part of the maintainers dpkg?
[01:51] <andrej> E.g., if a new kernel DOES get installed via apt I'd like to pull the source , apply a patch, if the patch work build a kernel
[01:51] <daftykins> Rexter: take a look before asking further ;)
[01:52] <daftykins> andrej: that would be beyond the scope of this channel
[01:52] <andrej> daftykins : oh, ok ... do you know of a channel where this might be in scope?
[01:53] <Rexter> daftykins, the set up is close to the same, but the same problem persists. The proper driver is not listed. If I steel the PPD file from my 14.04 machine, why wouldn't that work?
[01:53] <TJ-> andrej: Look at "/etc/kernel/postinst.d/"
[01:53] <daftykins> andrej: i'd say #linux but the dpkg involvement would speak of debian to me, worth a try though
[01:54] <daftykins> Rexter: i'd bet you could add a printer and specify a PPD
[01:54] <andrej> TJ- ta, I'll check
[01:54] <allons-y> TJ-: there's an asterisc under Boot
[01:55] <Rexter> daftykins, yea, that's what I did, but it still doesn't print. the print que says can't connect.
[01:55] <allons-y> http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com.es/2008/11/missing-operating-system-step-by-step.html this may help
[01:56] <TJ-> allons-y: OK... so check there is a valid boot sector in the MBR... do "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" and compare it to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7827972/
[01:56] <allons-y> ok
[01:56] <TJ-> allons-y: If you don't see those characteristic mentions of GRUB then the device is missing its MBR
[01:56] <daftykins> Rexter: check the queue name is the same between
[01:58] <allons-y> TJ-: there is no mentions of GURB
[01:58] <allons-y> only Operating systm load error
[01:58] <TJ-> allons-y: There's your problem then. The boot loader was probably installed to a different device.
[01:58] <allons-y> Multiple active partitions
[01:58] <allons-y> aham
[01:59] <Rexter> daftykins, you mean, between my 14.04 machine, and the 12.04?
[01:59] <allons-y> device?
[01:59] <TJ-> allons-y: "Operating System load error" ? That sounds like text from another boot-loader entirely
[01:59] <allons-y> :S
[02:00] <TJ-> allons-y: Is it supposed to have syslinux boot-loader on there?
[02:00] <daftykins> Rexter: so what does Canon offer for this printer? :)
[02:00] <allons-y> I... don't know
[02:00] <Rexter> daftykins, 0, zip nada. we hate you go away
[02:00] <daftykins> Rexter: i thought you were saying that to me for a moment! ;_;
[02:01] <daftykins> Rexter: i gotta call it a night though i'm afraid
[02:01] <Rexter> lol, no no, I appreciate your help
[02:01] <daftykins> good luck \o
[02:01] <TJ-> allons-y: I think the answer is "yes":   syslinux/mbr/mbr.S:292: .ascii  "Operating system load error.\r\n"
[02:01] <roflmanjaro> Hello
[02:01] <TJ-> allons-y: So the device isn't booting for some other reason, it has the sylinux boot-loader on though
[02:01] <Rexter> daftykins, http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/printers_multifunction/pixma_mx_series/pixma_mx522#DriversAndSoftware
[02:02] <brucelee> when i download a ppa, its supposed to be protected by a signing key, how does this protect it?
[02:02] <TJ-> allons-y: Does the PC have UEFI or BIOS ?
[02:02] <psusi> allons-y, make sure you are looking at the right drive and not your usb stick, which uses syslinux
[02:02] <TJ-> allons-y: I'm wondering if you've got a UEFI boot-loader issue, possibly need to choose a legacy/CSM boot
[02:02] <Rexter> daftykins, sorry wrong model, http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/printers_multifunction/pixma_mx_series/pixma_mx922?selectedName=DriversAndSoftware
[02:02] <allons-y> I think it has BIOS
[02:02] <roflmanjaro> does the new ubuntu LTS 14.04 offer luks encryption in the installer? 12.04 didnt
[02:02] <allons-y> now I'm confused
[02:03] <psusi> brucelee, the same way the main archive does: the packages are signed by the author/packager and the signature is verified prior to installing a package
[02:03] <allons-y> the right drive?
[02:03] <allons-y> you mean when doing the fdisk?
[02:03] <Rexter> daftykins, thanks for pointing me to the cups web admin though. That's cool
[02:03] <psusi> allons-y, and the dd where you found the syslinux strings
[02:03] <roflmanjaro> does the new ubuntu LTS 14.04 offer luks encryption in the installer? 12.04 didnt
[02:03] <roflmanjaro> does 14.04 lts offer encryption in the installer
[02:04] <rww> roflmanjaro: yes
[02:04] <jay_why_bee> I have a video problem, I cannot quite solve.  Lubuntu 13.10 running on VMware ESXi gives me graphic anomalies on any res except 800x600.
[02:04] <iceman> you brazil
[02:04] <TJ-> allons-y: Does the PC have any other Linux installations?
[02:04] <roflmanjaro> and also, i will be buying anew laptop, will installing in UEFI mode pose any problems?
[02:04] <roflmanjaro> my last laptop was bricked by installing Fedora in UEFI
[02:04] <jay_why_bee> It is running LXDE, and the anomalies look like refresh problems were the screen repeats itself.
[02:04] <allons-y> It has only a partition with Ubuntu
[02:05] <TJ-> allons-y: On the hard disk you mean?
[02:05] <allons-y> yes
[02:05] <psusi> allons-y, is it the right size?  make sure it isn't your usb stick
[02:05] <allons-y> I don't understand you psusi
[02:05] <jay_why_bee> The same image repeat happens if I am viewing via VNC or the Console.
[02:05] <brucelee> psusi: so the creator of the PPA is supposed to sign it using their private key, which nobody else has. What about the PPA signing key listed in launchpad
[02:05] <TJ-> allons-y: OK, so we are clear, the hard disk has Ubuntu on it, and there's a *single* USB flash device which has the ubuntu installer on put there by unetbootln?
[02:06] <psusi> allons-y, if you are booting from an 8 gb usb stick and fdisk says the disk is only 8gb, then you are looking at the usb stick, not your hard disk
[02:06] <allons-y> that's right TJ-
[02:06] <brucelee> psusi: what does that number represent? if that number is the key, then everyone has the key that was used to sign that package right?
[02:06] <TJ-> allons-y: OK... so I'm guessing something went wrong with the USB creation step
[02:06] <psusi> brucelee, that would be the key of whoever owns the ppa
[02:06] <allons-y> yes, and I was looking at the USB before
[02:06] <brazzo1> hey folks, i just installed the first harry potter game (and the soccerers stone) with wine and when i try to start the crack nothing happens. it was my first application i installed with wine and the autorun.exe works (but just with cd) . Does somebody got an idea whats my mistake ?
[02:06] <psusi> brucelee, that is the *public* key
[02:07] <brucelee> psusi: i see
[02:07] <allons-y> TJ-: that could not be possible, the USB works in other PCs
[02:07] <brucelee> psusi: why would they distribute the public key, whats the point of it?
[02:07] <Jeffrey_f> brucelee: the signing key ensures that the files in the repository are not modified by checking the file hash.  If the file hash matches the one stored remotely, your downloads have not been modified outside of the software change management.  ............Meaning, it would be difficult for the repository source and programs to have been messed with (virus, malware, etc)
[02:07] <Rexter> I have a Pixma MX922, on the Network. I have two Ubuntu machines. One 12.04, one 14.04. the 14.04 machine found, and connected to the printer with no problem. The 12.04 machine doesn't have the correct driver available.
[02:08] <psusi> brucelee, in public key crypto, keys come in linked pairs.. what you encrypt with one can only be decrypted with the other in the pair.. so one you keep private, and one you tell everyone... you can sign something with the private key, and anyone can use the public key to verify the signature, or they can use the public key to encrypt something that only the owner of the private key can decrypt
[02:08] <brucelee> Jeffrey_f: how does the signing key (public key) relate to the file hash?
[02:08] <brucelee> Jeffrey_f: the file hash has nothing to do with the signing key (public key) right?
[02:09] <psusi> brucelee, the signature is simply the file hash that has been encrypted using the private key, so others use the public key to decrypt it, compute their own hash, and verify they match
[02:09] <Jeffrey_f> brucelee: To fully understand cryptography and private key/public key cryptography, you need to read up on it   http://www.pgpi.org/doc/pgpintro/
[02:09] <brucelee> ah i se
[02:09] <Jeffrey_f> psusi: +1
[02:09] <brucelee> Jeffrey_f: thanks
[02:09] <TJ-> brucelee: the hash is signed by the private key and the detached signature is then verified by the client, and then the validated has is compared against a hash generated by the client of the same package
[02:09] <brucelee> psusi: thanks
[02:10] <brucelee> very interesting
[02:10] <brucelee> so that number known as the "signing key" is the signature?
[02:11] <brucelee> or the public key
[02:11] <gdeeble> Anyone here have experience with Ser2net?
[02:11] <psusi> public key
[02:11] <brucelee> the "fingerprint" is the file hash right?
[02:11] <Rexter> I'm looking for soome help getting my new Pixma MX922 printer installed on 12.04
[02:11] <psusi> no, the fingerprint is a shorter but unique representation of the key
[02:11] <TJ-> allons-y: Hmmm... then you've got another type of bug in the BIOS which I discovered/patched in syslinux some time ago now, whereby the BIOS passes the wrong drive number to the boot-loader causing it  to fail to find its own device
[02:11] <brucelee> ok i see
[02:11] <brazzo1> oh yeah thx for all the help -.-
[02:11] <jay_why_bee> Looking for help with VMware Lubuntu (LXDE) video issues.  Any resolution over 800x600 causes the image to duplicate (except with I move the mouse over it).
[02:12] <Jeffrey_f> brucelee: your private key + another public key creates either a hash or an encrypted message......Simply: you send me a message encrypted with your private key and my public key......I can not decrypt it unless I have my private key and your public key
[02:12] <jay_why_bee> This VM works fine for months... then I think it took an update that changed this behavior.
[02:12] <brucelee> so in launchpad ppa, how do you find what the signature is? when your client decrypts the file hash using the "signing key", you compare that file hash value with launchpad's "signature" right? where would you get this
[02:12] <allons-y> TJ-: it's not the first time I install Ubuntu on that PC using an USB
[02:13] <allons-y> but it's the first time that it fails
[02:13] <psusi> Jeffrey_f, no... to send an encrypted message I only need your public key, don't need my own unless I want you to send a reply encrypted or to sign
[02:13] <wizard> i have ubunti installed rt now from usb
[02:13] <wizard> hmmm
[02:13] <TJ-> brucelee: Launchpad > generate key-pair > keep private key hidden > publish PPA public key > build binary package > calculate hash of package > sign hash with private key >>> client download >> verify signature using public key >> calculate hash >> compare with received hash == success
[02:14] <TJ-> allons-y: Did you use unetbootln the last time?
[02:14] <Jeffrey_f> psusi: Hmm.....oops, right  8-)
[02:14] <psusi> brucelee, the package manager does it automatically...
[02:14] <brucelee> ah ok
[02:14] <allons-y> yes
[02:14] <brucelee> thanks guys
[02:14] <wizard> question anyone use reaver here?
[02:14] <allons-y> no
[02:14] <allons-y> sorry no
[02:15] <allons-y> I used LiLi USB creator
[02:15] <allons-y> or something like that
[02:15] <TJ-> allons-y: That might indicate the issue some form of incompatibility with that BIOS and unetbootln's way of installing the boot loader
[02:16] <allons-y> but I've also tried LiLi USB creator (today)
[02:16] <allons-y> it doesn't matter what software I use
[02:16] <allons-y> I always get the same error
[02:16] <TJ-> allons-y: Then there's something more fundamental going on. Without having hands-on its hard to figure out what
[02:17] <allons-y> hm
[02:18] <TJ-> allons-y: Try buring a real DVD/CD and booting from that maybe?
[02:19] <allons-y> right now I don't have any DVDs xD
[02:24] <eeee> allons-y: try a different usb port, i doubt it cuz it's picking up the usb, but it's worth a shot nonetheless
[02:24] <allons-y> already did it
[02:24] <allons-y> how about booting via GRUB?
[02:26] <brucelee> psusi: i guess whats confusing me is how this relates to how SSL encryption works? I was under the impression that its the same way
[02:26] <brucelee> psusi: is there no relationship?
[02:26] <psusi> allons-y, ohh, you can't boot from the usb stick?  I thought you couldn't boot from the hd after installing?
[02:26] <allons-y> oh
[02:26] <allons-y> ok psusi xD
[02:27] <psusi> brucelee, ssl uses the same underlying algorithm, but ssl is an interactive protocol for securing a tcp connection
[02:27] <dsprc> after i authenticate to lightdm, xfce4-session doesn't seem to fire and I am just presented with the default xubuntu wallpaper and have no windows manger etc. any ideas how to remedy this?
[02:27] <Jeffrey_f> brucelee: SSL is a bit different, but is meant to secure an end-to-end encrypted link
[02:28] <brucelee> ok
[02:28] <Jeffrey_f> brucelee: similar, but meant for communications
[02:28] <RP_2> Hello, I upgraded hardware enablement stack on 12.04 and now my display setup is broke.  I have nvidia drivers installed I think.
[02:29] <jay_why_bee> I cannot figure out why my video at 1024x768 doesn't appear to refresh properly.  It keeps duplicating windows horizontally until I move a window over top (to cause it to refresh).
[02:29] <sirajperson> Okay.... So here I am doing my normal fooling around and I found a real problem
[02:29] <sirajperson> open two terminal windows
[02:29] <jay_why_bee> But then it just pops back to duplicating again.
[02:30] <sirajperson> enter command $ tty
[02:30] <sirajperson> be sure to pay attention to the terminal number
[02:30] <psusi> brucelee, with ssl, typically the server has an x.509 certificate, which is their key plus identity information, that is signed by a so called "certificate authority"... i.e. a company that browser vendors trust to verify the identity of the web site operator before signing their certificate ( for a fee ).. the browser verifies the CA signature from a CA the browser trusts, then uses the site's public key to encrypt a regular symetric key and sends it to the
[02:30] <psusi> server, and from then on, they use that symetric key to encrypt all traffic
[02:31] <sirajperson> in a second terminal, use the cat command to break the first one: $ cat < /dev/pts/x  where x is the terminal number
[02:31] <sirajperson> instantly the original terminal begins to miss chars and instead places them into the cat reading terminal
[02:32] <icesword> hello rww
[02:32] <sirajperson> essentially in a multi user environment you could break everyones command line from user space...
[02:32] <brucelee> psusi: very clear.. thanks for the explanation
[02:32] <sirajperson> how can on protect from this?
[02:32] <icesword> where can i order ubuntu CDs
[02:33] <psusi> sirajperson, in a multi-user environment, the permissions on the tty are set so that only the user logged on to it can do that
[02:33] <icesword> hello hello
[02:33] <RP_2> can I get an invite into #ubuntu-beginners ?
[02:33] <icesword> wtf?
[02:34] <MirrorImage> http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17 ?
[02:34] <icesword> !ops
[02:34] <hasek79> how do i fix the unity problem with the hud and the "w" key
[02:34] <RP_2> hi icesword
[02:34] <rww> icesword: something we can help you with?
[02:34] <icesword> rww, grass mud horse
[02:34] <rww> icesword: hrm?
[02:34] <icesword> i want to ubuntu CDs
[02:34] <icesword> buy
[02:35] <rww> icesword: http://store.canonical.com/
[02:35] <icesword> since i've been supporting ubuntu since 2007, rww, would there be any discounts
[02:36] <rww> icesword: no
[02:36] <icesword> why
[02:36] <icesword> they used to be free
[02:36] <psusi> icesword, you can download it for free
[02:36] <rww> icesword: If you have questions about Canonical Store, please talk to Canonical. Their form for such is http://shop.canonical.com/contact_us.php
[02:36] <hasek79> anytime i open the hud to search for something on my computer if i type the "W" key it just closes...why is that? how do  i fix?
[02:37] <infinmed> hi
[02:38] <brucelee> psusi: in ssl, a site uses its public key to encrypt a regular symmetric key and sends it to the server? when you say site youre talking about the client?
[02:38] <psusi> brucelee, no... the client picks a random session key, and encrypts it with the server's public key ( that the server sends it ( in the certificate ) when the client connects
[02:39] <brucelee> oh i see
[02:39] <laspahr> ... why do I still have the "install Ubuntu icon on my Launcher thing?
[02:40] <psusi> brucelee, the client can optionally use its own certificate to prove its identity to the server, but that is generally not used... just the server has one and one is all that is needed to encrypt the traffic, and for the client to identify the server
[02:40] <brucelee> i see
[02:40] <brucelee> i must have read how this process works like a million times
[02:40] <brucelee> but can never remember
[02:41] <brucelee> and everytime i come across another key signing security process
[02:41] <brucelee> it makes the wholething a little more fuzzy
[02:41] <dsprc> brucelee: grc.com has a podcast or two floating around that explains the handshake process pretty well
[02:41] <brucelee> dsprc: nice
[02:42] <dsprc> brucelee: will have to dig around for it on the "Security Now!" page
[02:43] <brucelee> on the security now page
[02:45] <dsprc> brucelee: haha. you'll be there for a while digging through almost a decade of shows.. ;P
[02:53] <laughingtiger> hello? help, somebody, anybody?
[02:53] <laughingtiger> lol
[02:53] <sydney> laughingtiger: Hi?
[02:53] <laughingtiger> sydney, hi. how do you do?
[02:54] <sydney> laughingtiger: fine :)
[02:54] <laughingtiger> sydney, lol
[02:57] <dsprc> after i authenticate to lightdm, xfce4-session doesn't seem to fire and I am just presented with the default xubuntu wallpaper and have no windows manger etc. any ideas how to remedy this?
[02:57] <laughingtiger> Ubuntu and Linux is a revolutionary OS that makes Windows a needless junk.
[02:59] <Ozera||> anyone know how to get Steam to work on ubuntu 12.04 64bit?  This is the error I am getting http://pastebin.com/pLtTjrcn Basically, upon starting...it just won't update. It sits 0%
[03:00] <dsprc> Ozera||: steam isn't supported here (basically anything not in the default repo isn't either)
[03:00] <Ozera||> So... I have to go through Wine?
[03:01] <laughingtiger> dsprc, are you facing the same problem with me?
[03:01] <Daekdroom> Using Steam through Wine won't allow you to install native Linux clients.
[03:01] <rww> Ozera||: no, you have to use a version of Ubuntu that includes Steam and ask for help here, or use a version of Ubuntu that Valve supports and ask Valve.
[03:01] <bsdbandit> good morning all
[03:02] <sydney> bsdbandit: its 11:00 pm here ;P
[03:02] <Ozera||> rww, wait wait there are versions of Ubuntu that include steam?
[03:02] <rww> !info steam precise
[03:02] <rww> !info steam trusty
[03:02] <bsdbandit> :)
[03:03] <Ozera||> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux#Ubuntu doesn't specify a version
[03:04] <dsprc> Ozera||: they target LTS
[03:05] <laughingtiger> bsdbandit, what's the time you've got now?
[03:05] <Ozera||> dsprc, LTS?
[03:05] <bsdbandit> i was looking at the clock wrong
[03:05] <bsdbandit> im just getting up
[03:05]  * bsdbandit yawns
[03:06] <dsprc> Ozera||: Long Term Supprt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[03:06] <dsprc> Ozera||: 14.04.x should do it
[03:07] <laughingtiger> well, if computer hasn't been invented, the world would've been a better place.
[03:07] <nrdb> can i use a raid10 for the /boot directory
[03:07] <Ozera||> ugh
[03:07] <Ozera||> ubuntu upgrades always end in failure and destruction
[03:08] <laughingtiger> modern technology has seriously damaged this planet
[03:08] <sydney> Ozera||: How,ive never had issues???
[03:08] <nrdb> laughingtiger, without it this planet wouldn't support the number of people currently here there would be mass famine
[03:09] <trickyhero> so I need to use this program http://www.magellangps.com/contentmanager should I just try wine or is there a way to use mac apps
[03:09] <Ozera||> sydney, idk. I leave tomorrow on an important trip and I don't want to risk something happenng
[03:09] <Jeffrey_f> nrdb: http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10
[03:10] <Ozera||> also, by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS mine should still work... i'm using 12.04
[03:10] <laughingtiger> nrdb, wouldn't that be a good thing for this planet?
[03:10] <dsprc> laughingtiger: join #ubuntu-offtopic and you can talk about environmentalism all you want
[03:11] <laughingtiger> I've already joined offtopic, it's a busy place. people there are talking about nonsense things.
[03:12] <dsprc> Ozera||: yeah i dont blame ya; never upgrade on a deadline :s
[03:12] <Ozera||> agh
[03:12] <Ozera||> i bloody hate linux for media shit
[03:12] <Ozera||> there always /something/ wrong
[03:12] <dsprc> everything that possibly could go wrong always does
[03:12] <dsprc> ^^
[03:12] <laughingtiger> wow
[03:13] <allons-y> Ozera||:
[03:13] <allons-y> I've upgraded yesterday
[03:14] <allons-y> from 12.04 to 14.4
[03:14] <allons-y> and... well
[03:14] <allons-y> now I'm using dd in order to make a bootable USB
[03:14] <Ozera||> ._.
[03:14] <allons-y> yes
[03:14] <allons-y> It was a completely disaster
[03:14] <dsprc> allons-y: so did i and now i've no windows manager :)
[03:14] <laughingtiger> Ozera|| you'll love this OS.
[03:15] <allons-y> that's right dsprc ç
[03:15] <allons-y>  neither do I
[03:15] <Ozera||> all I wanted was Steam to work @_@
[03:15] <laughingtiger> although we actually don't need this electronic shit.
[03:15] <Ozera||> the LTS site page says it should be supported
[03:16] <laughingtiger> then don't play games, Ozera||
[03:16] <laughingtiger> if you want to play games, why not buying playstation or xbox?
[03:16] <Jeffrey_f> !cuss
[03:16]  * psusi plays Minecraft
[03:18] <guest|91259> lol http://lolnux.com/34.html
[03:18] <dsprc> after i authenticate to lightdm, xfce4-session doesn't seem to fire and I am just presented with the default xubuntu wallpaper and have no windows manger etc. any ideas how to remedy this?
[03:19] <dsprc> any ideas at all; just point me in a general direction
[03:19] <laughingtiger> dsprc, punch it.
[03:20] <dsprc> same problem as this guy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/500133
[03:23] <laughingtiger> one English philosopher and scientist once said, if we want to solve the problems of 21 century, we have to look for answers in Buddhism and ancient Chinese culture.
[03:23] <somsip> !ot | laughingtiger
[03:23] <Ozera||> um, my client crashes to login screen after attempting to install anything from the USC
[03:23] <Ozera||> anyone have any ideas about that?
[03:24] <dsprc> Ozera||: which client?
[03:24] <dsprc> Ozera||: steam?
[03:24] <certeit> ahh it's a wonderful day
[03:24] <laughingtiger> Ozera|| ,I'm afraid you've been haunted by ghosts.
[03:24] <Ozera||> Ubuntu 12.04 crashes to login screen after attempting to install something from 12.04
[03:25] <Quetzal_Pretzel> !active
[03:25] <Quetzal_Pretzel> hello?
[03:25] <pringers> How do i tip dogecoins
[03:26] <Quetzal_Pretzel> !tip name amount
[03:26] <Quetzal_Pretzel> Hello??
[03:26] <pringers> !tip ubottu 10
[03:26] <PM_ME_YOUR_GIRL> !balance
[03:26] <Ozera||> dsprc, 12.04 should be supported. I don't understand.
[03:27] <dsprc> Ozera||: i got no clue \o/
[03:31] <MoonSlime> how long does a fellow have to be part of the community to be able to receive a cloak?
[03:31] <dsprc> Ozera||: did you try to reinstall software-center?
[03:31] <somsip> !cloak | MoonSlime
[03:32] <laughingtiger> !cloak
[03:32] <quizme> hi
[03:33] <ubuntuser13> quizme: hello!
[03:34] <quizme> i want to install ubuntu on a galaxy notepro.  has anybody tried the ubuntudualboot on that device?
[03:34] <quizme> just wondering if it would work
[03:35] <ubuntuser13> quizme: there is so much stuff avail on internet. yes you can choose linux on android .
[03:35] <dsprc> quizme: try #ubuntu-touch if that is what you're looking for
[03:36] <quizme> i'm just wondering if i would have problem with the device drivers and what not, there aren't many users of galaxy notepro from what i understand
[03:37] <ubuntuser13> quizme: install complete linux installer and get ubuntu iso from their sourceforge project .  easiest and safe way to install ubuntu on android.
[03:37] <laughingtiger> galaxy, the samsun shit? lol, just joking
[03:37] <quizme> i know i kind of regret buying a samsung
[03:37] <quizme> they flash ads on my screen all the time.
[03:37] <quizme> that's why i want to install ubuntu
[03:38] <quizme> among many other reasons
[03:38] <Jeffrey_f> Ask the we keep the curse words off the chat please
[03:38] <dotDeb> I have a Samsung and don't have that
[03:38] <dotDeb> oh you're not talking about phones
[03:38] <dotDeb> whoops
[03:39] <quizme> dotdeb, galaxy notepro 12.2 it's meant for "business users"  so there are all these default pay-oriented apps installed
[03:39] <dotDeb> yuck
[03:39] <quizme> yes very yucky
[03:39] <dotDeb> I rooted and removed the proprietary bloatware
[03:39] <dotDeb> from my phone
[03:39] <dotDeb> even play store
[03:39] <quizme> (i love how our language has been moderated to the vocabulary of 2 year old curse words.)  :)
[03:39] <dotDeb> never really used it
[03:39] <dotDeb> haha
[03:40] <Ozera||> dsprc, umm...steam window just popped up wtf?
[03:40] <Ozera||> uh
[03:40] <Ozera||> what is happening linux please @_@
[03:40] <dsprc> Ozera||: then we have no problem after all :)
[03:41] <Ozera||> dsprc, would you happen to know how to pull up a CD that is in the CD tray? The current CD I have in there should be blank, but I don't think it is being recognized
[03:41] <Ozera||> maybe my CD drive is fucked?
[03:43] <quizme> Ozera||: you mean "your CD drive is yucky"
[03:44] <Jeffrey_f> Ozera||: Hmmm.  Borked would be a good word   :P
[03:44] <dsprc> Ozera||: try 'mount /dev/sr0 /YourMountPointHere'
[03:45] <dsprc> /media/cdrom and /mnt/cdrom are the "usual" choices for mount points
[03:47] <Ozera||> uh
[03:49] <dsprc> Ozera||: oh, you will have to put a filesystem on it first if it doesnt have one
[03:53] <dsprc> just dont ask me what the "right" way to do that is, because i write disks with 'dd' so im not the person to ask
[03:53] <arussel> is there a way to list the packages that were added ? (not all packages on a server, only the one added)
[03:54] <dsprc> arussel: you want to list all packages you have installed?
[03:54] <arussel> dsprc: yes
[03:55] <rocko> how do I keep my encrypted home parititon? when I install a fresh ubuntu on to root parititon
[03:55] <arussel> a list of package installed after a date would do it too
[03:56] <dsprc> arussel: dpkg --get-selections > ~/InstalledPackages.list
[03:56] <arussel> dsprc: thanks
[03:56] <dsprc> arussel: it wont sort by date, just give you a list
[03:57] <arussel> dsprc: but this is all packages, not just the one I've installed
[03:57] <dsprc> if you want the dates you are gonna have to dig around in /var/log and grep all the dpkg stuff
[03:57] <dsprc> 'sed' 'awk' and 'grep' are your friends :)
[03:58] <arussel> well, sed and grep are my friends, if I need aws, I just call ruby to the rescue :-)
[03:58] <arussel> s/aws/awk/
[03:58] <dsprc> you can also get a category sorted list of packages by running 'aptitude' w/o arguments
[04:01] <dfdfy> hi
[04:01] <dfdfy> hi
[04:02] <dfdfy> i have
[04:02] <dfdfy> problem
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !ask | dfdfy
[04:02] <dfdfy> i install
[04:02] <dfdfy> ubuntu 14.04
[04:02] <dfdfy> he still freez
[04:02] <dfdfy> after i login
[04:03] <dfdfy> 2 min
[04:03] <dfdfy> 3 min
[04:03] <dfdfy> h freez
[04:03] <dotDeb> h frees?
[04:03] <dotDeb> *z
[04:03] <dfdfy> he freez
[04:03] <dotDeb> what does that mean
[04:03] <dotDeb> :S
[04:03] <dfdfy> nothing work
[04:04] <dfdfy> no mouse
[04:04] <dfdfy> no keabord
[04:04] <dfdfy> he forsed me to restart my pc
[04:04] <dotDeb> did you try reinstalling?
[04:04] <dotDeb> also, who is he?
[04:04] <dfdfy> many time
[04:04] <dotDeb> :S
[04:05] <dfdfy> he = ubuntu
[04:05] <dotDeb> oh
[04:05] <dotDeb> = it
[04:05] <dotDeb> what's your first language
[04:05] <dotDeb> I know okay spanish
[04:05] <dotDeb> but idk if its allowed here
[04:05] <dfdfy> no arabic
[04:05] <dotDeb> ah ok nvm
[04:05] <dotDeb> idk about that sorry
[04:05] <dotDeb> someone else may know
[04:05] <dfdfy> nvm
[04:06] <dfdfy> ???
[04:06] <dotDeb> nevermind
[04:06] <Ozera||> dsprc, what did you say about the cd drive earlier?
[04:06] <dfdfy> what u story
[04:06] <dotDeb> what
[04:07] <dfdfy> so
[04:07] <dsprc> !arabic | dfdfy
[04:07] <dotDeb> ^^^
[04:07] <dfdfy> why my ubuntu freez??????
[04:08] <Locke2002> Heh, there's no one in #ubuntu-arabic...
[04:09] <dfdfy> yes
[04:09] <dfdfy> no one
[04:09] <dfdfy> i can spake eng
[04:09] <dfdfy> tell me if u know
[04:09] <dfdfy> i tell u
[04:10] <Ozera||> > mount: can't find /media/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:10] <dfdfy> i want to delet
[04:10] <dfdfy> mu ubuntu
[04:10] <dfdfy> thats it
[04:10] <dotDeb> dfdfy someone may know
[04:10] <dfdfy> thanks
[04:11] <dfdfy> by by
[04:11] <dsprc> Ozera||: try 'mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom'
[04:11] <dsprc> that is a zero
[04:11] <Ozera||> >mount: mount point /media/cdrom does not exist
[04:12] <dsprc> 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom'
[04:13] <Ozera||> >mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[04:13] <Ozera||> after making the directory
[04:15] <wheatthin> Umm
[04:15] <wheatthin> that's not how you write media to a cdrom tho.
[04:15] <wheatthin> sorry misread it.. lol
[04:17] <Ozera||> >mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/cdrom busy
[04:17] <Ozera||>
[04:17] <Ozera||> wot
[04:20] <dsprc> Ozera||: is the disk blank?
[04:21] <linocisco> hi all
[04:21] <linocisco> I am using ubuntu 13.10
[04:21] <linocisco> desktop
[04:21] <linocisco> I dont know how to install DVB-T USB tuner disk ezcap
[04:22] <linocisco> I checked linuxtv.org . found no drivers
[04:22] <linocisco> can someone help me?
[04:23] <dsprc> pastebin the output of 'lsusb' and someone may be able to better help if they've a clue
[04:25] <dsprc> linocisco: or just paste here the lines related only to this device
[04:25] <Beldar> linocisco, 13.10 went eol just days ago upgrade to 14.04 while 13.10 can still call the ubuntu repos.
[04:26] <radaaam> hey guys, just wondering if anybody can help me with a torrentflux issue on server 14.04 ?
[04:26] <dotDeb> !ask | radaaam
[04:26] <radaaam> oic
[04:27] <radaaam> does anybody know why my torrents instantly say 'download failed' when running a torrent on torrentflux 2.4? using ubuntu 14.04
[04:27] <linocisco> Beldar
[04:28] <linocisco> Beldar, how to upgrade to 14.04?
[04:30] <dsprc> linocisco: try: update-manager -d
[04:30] <dsprc> but do a normal update first so everything is in order
[04:31] <gunarm_> i'm trying to update libtorrent by building it from source and i'm out of my depth
[04:31] <dsprc> linocisco: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:31] <dsprc> after that do the update-manager -d
[04:31] <linocisco> dsprc, apt-get update-manager-d?
[04:31] <dsprc> no no no
[04:32] <gunarm_> does this look like the make install worked? http://pastebin.com/KPCaU5Dr
[04:32] <dsprc> linocisco: do the normal apt-get update and upgrade first
[04:32] <linocisco> dsprc, ok
[04:33] <dsprc> when that is finished, run: update-manager -d
[04:33] <radaaam> does anybody know why my torrents instantly say 'download failed' when running a torrent on torrentflux 2.4? using ubuntu 14.04
[04:33] <linocisco> dsprc, software updater said 158MB updates found
[04:33] <andrej> How do I find out whether a file from a package is considered a config file
[04:33] <dsprc> linocisco: install all the normal updtes first or you will be in a world of hurt
[04:34] <linocisco> dsprc, ok. thanks I got it. when I have upgraded to 14.04,can ubuntu automatically detect my USB DVB-T ezcap tuner?
[04:34] <linocisco> dsprc, ok. thanks I got it. when I have upgraded to 14.04,can ubuntu automatically detect my USB DVB-T ezcap tuner and install drivers?
[04:35] <dsprc> linocisco: this has yet to be determined. Beldar suggested that you upgrade while you still have a chance to
[04:35] <linocisco> dsprc, ok bro. thanks. wil do it first
[04:35] <ghostnik11> how can i get bluetooth to work in ubuntu 13.04
[04:36] <dotDeb> gnostnik11 what's the problem
[04:37]  * dsprc so many unsupported desktops
[04:38] <Beldar> dsprc, Have you added ppa to your install?
[04:38] <rocko> is the latest ubuntu have lvm installed by default?
[04:38] <Beldar> rocko, by default no
[04:38] <dsprc> Beldar: it aint me... :)
[04:38] <Beldar> dsprc, Sorry about that
[04:39] <rocko> what are the benefits of doing this?
[04:39] <rocko> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[04:39] <dsprc> this is my problem: after i authenticate to lightdm, xfce4-session doesn't seem to fire and I am just presented with the default xubuntu wallpaper and have no windows manger etc. any ideas how to remedy this?
[04:39] <dsprc> same problem as this guy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/500133
[04:39] <allen> hey all, anyone have time to help with a video driver issue
[04:40] <dotDeb> !ask | allen
[04:40] <Beldar> rocko, Not really a support issue, you might research the differentials.
[04:40] <rocko> what should I use primary or logical parition? Beldar
[04:41] <Beldar> rocko, Never used lvm myself, but HD's have limited numbers of primaries if a msdos.
[04:41] <allenrm> i can't seem to be able to use my nvidia drivers, whenever i use the proprietary driver i get an error on boot that i will be in low graphics mode or something like that
[04:42] <dsprc> allenrm: hang on
[04:42] <dsprc> allenrm: there is a race condition with lightdm that often causes this...
[04:42] <Beldar> allenrm, the proprietary in the ubuntu repos or from nvidia?
[04:42] <ghostnik11> dotDeb, the problem is i need bluetooth to work but it doesn't work even though i have bluemanz installed and other stuff i read on the internet that would make it work
[04:43] <allenrm> Beldar, i think it is from the repo
[04:43] <Ozera||> dsprc, wtf..so apparently I can't burn an ISO to a Dual Layer DVD?
[04:43] <Ozera||> its a DVD+R and it says it needed a right type
[04:43] <Beldar> Ozera||, NO swearing or acronyms of thanks.
[04:44] <radaaam> does anybody know why my torrents instantly say 'download failed' when running a torrent on torrentflux 2.4? using ubuntu 14.04
[04:44] <dotDeb> ghostnik11 not sure sorry, it may help to list the component name
[04:45] <Ozera||> dsprc, "please replace the disc with a supported CD or DVD"
[04:46] <dsprc> allenrm: in your /etc/init/lightdm.conf add: "sleep 2" (without "quotes") right above the line that says 'exec lightdm'
[04:47] <dsprc> Ozera||: no clue \o/
[04:48] <rocko> what are live snapshots?
[04:49] <allenrm> dsprc looking for it now
[04:50] <ghostnik11> dotDeb, my computer is the lenovo ideapad s400 and the bluetooth driver is: Bluetooth Driver (CyberTan/Broadcom, Liteon/Atheros, Intel)
[04:51] <dsprc> allenrm: it is down near the bottom
[04:52] <allenrm> dsprc,  should it say start on plymouth-ready or Ubuntu-ready, i saw something on a forum saying it should be ubuntu?
[04:53] <dsprc> allenrm: mine says plymouth but idk if it matter
[04:53] <allenrm> cool, but i can't save it, its protected
[04:54] <dsprc> oh you have to have root priviledge
[04:54] <allenrm> yes
[04:54] <dsprc> sudo nano /etc/init/lightdm.conf
[04:55] <Ozera||> dsprc, apparently mine can only read CDs and not DVDs?
[04:55] <allenrm> ok done bud, so i need to reboot to test this right
[04:56] <dsprc> allenrm: yup. if it still doesnt work someone can help you do nvidia voodo chants
[04:57] <allenrm> should i install a new nvidia first
[04:57] <dsprc> allenrm: sure. why not? :)
[04:57] <PlanckWalk> Somehow I've got mismatched versions of libqt4-qt3support and libqt4-sql.  My package manager is recommending that I remove the 229 packages that depend upon those.
[04:58] <dsprc> allenrm: do you already have the proprietary drivers installed?
[04:58] <allenrm> dsprc, no i had to purge them to get back into the desktop
[04:59] <allenrm> so i should run apt-get install nvidia-current?
[04:59] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[04:59] <dsprc> you can try to install them again then
[04:59] <svm_invictvs> how do I enable/disable services in the default runlevel on Ubuntu?
[04:59] <rocko> where is the ubuntu alternative installer?
[05:00] <toolazyforaname> rocko: is that the minimal/net install?
[05:00] <rocko> no
[05:00] <allenrm> dsprc, thanks for the help, they are installing then i'll try rebooting
[05:00] <dsprc> allenrm: cool
[05:01] <dsprc> rocko: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[05:01] <rocko> http://askubuntu.com/questions/457513/what-happened-to-with-the-alternate-installer-in-ubuntu-14-04
[05:01] <PlanckWalk> I have libqt4-sql_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.6 installed (which matches the other libqt4 packages I have), yet libqt4-qt3support_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.5
[05:01] <rocko> how do I setup ubuntu with lvm?
[05:02] <PlanckWalk> How can I resolve this discrepancy?  I can't manually download a libqt4-qt3support_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.6 from ubuntu as it's not in the repositories anymore
[05:02] <PlanckWalk> It jumps straight from ubuntu4.5 to ubuntu4.8
[05:02] <dsprc> rocko: i guess you will have to netinstall or minimal then
[05:03] <rocko> what is minimal?
[05:03] <somsip> !minimal | rocko
[05:03] <dsprc> rocko: basically a shell.. it is smaller than the normal netinstaller
[05:04] <toolazyforaname> rocko: it gives only what you need for the most part
[05:04] <dsprc> toolazyforaname: depending on the hardware config, not even that :P
[05:04] <toolazyforaname> dsprc: true, but it's a great starting point if you want to set up a server
[05:04] <toolazyforaname> shouldn't be running X on that anyway . . .
[05:06] <rocko> is this it? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[05:07] <toolazyforaname> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD this is it, i believe
[05:08] <dsprc> rocko: the netboot is for pixie booting the image across a network
[05:09] <rocko> so I want the minimal cd then?
[05:09] <toolazyforaname> rocko: what do you want to do with it?
[05:09] <radaaam> does anybody know why my torrents instantly say 'download failed' when running a torrent on torrentflux 2.4? using ubuntu 14.04
[05:09] <rocko> their is this guide that uses the text based installer for lvm
[05:10] <rocko> so I am assuming that the minimal will have that option
[05:10] <toolazyforaname> yes i believe the minimal install is only a curses install
[05:10] <somsip> rocko: toolazyforaname: it is ncurses
[05:10] <dsprc> rocko: i will check in 5 seconds..
[05:11] <toolazyforaname> rocko: but you should be aware that youll have to do a lot more legwork, like setting up uour fstab and installing X iirc
[05:11] <toolazyforaname> somsip: its what i meant :)
[05:11] <rocko> I know how to install x
[05:12] <rocko> what about fstab?
[05:12] <rocko> isn't that the volume manager or something?
[05:12] <toolazyforaname> file system mounting
[05:12] <allenrm> dsprc, hey bud no go, as soon as it boots i get a warning that i am in low graphics mode
[05:13] <toolazyforaname> rocko: i guess i think it's a bit overboard to go witht the minimal install just to get a ncurses lvm installer
[05:13] <toolazyforaname> rocko: why not just look at debian
[05:14] <rocko> is there a way to get the ncurses lvm installer running on the normal ubuntu cd?
[05:17] <PlanckWalk> Is it normal for versions of packages to be removed from Ubuntu repositories?
[05:17] <dsprc> this is my problem: after i authenticate to lightdm, xfce4-session doesn't seem to fire and I am just presented with the default xubuntu wallpaper and have no windows manger etc. any ideas how to remedy this?
[05:17] <dsprc> same problem as this guy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/500133
[05:18] <Beldar> PlanckWalk, not really valid question as is.
[05:18] <PlanckWalk> Beldar: Well, I did ask a more direct question earlier.
[05:18] <PlanckWalk> It just seems odd that I can't find a libqt4-qt3support_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.6 to match my other installed packages
[05:18] <PlanckWalk> So now I'm trying to fix my broken system
[05:19] <Beldar> PlanckWalk, Did you do a partial update/upgrade?
[05:19] <PlanckWalk> No
[05:19] <PlanckWalk> Just the usual desktop update, which reported success
[05:20] <PlanckWalk> Then the next time I tried installing a package, the package manager told me that there was a dependency problem and suggested removing 229 packages
[05:20] <Beldar> PlanckWalk, Not sure, I suspect you need more context for anyone here if here to help.
[05:20] <PlanckWalk> I'm happy to give more info :)
[05:21] <allenrm> anyone else able to assist with this video error i'm getting, everytime i try to use nvidia driver, when i reboot i end up with an error that i am in low graphics mode
[05:21] <PlanckWalk> Specifically I'm looking to manually resolve the dependency problem without removing the 229 packages that depend on libqt4-qt3support
[05:22] <dsprc> allenrm: try running nvidia-xconfig
[05:22] <Beldar> PlanckWalk, Note I'm using your nick when addressing you. I'm not sure and just guessing on the context is all, the channel may not have all the answers you need or provide them quickly is all.
[05:22] <PlanckWalk> Beldar: Ordinarily I'd try downloading libqt4-qt3support_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.6_amd64.deb from the repository, but it isn't there.  Nor are the related packages that were installed.
[05:23] <PlanckWalk> Does it look like my only option to manually downgrade each back to ubuntu4.5?
[05:23] <PlanckWalk> (There appear to be rather a lot of those)
[05:24] <allenrm> dsprc, doesn't appear to do anything Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[05:24] <allenrm> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:24] <ghostnik11> so when i try the blueman applet it tells me there is no bluetooth adapter installed in ubuntu 13.04.  How can i fix this issue
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[05:25] <dsprc> !ops
[05:25] <Monotoko> is there a minimal live CD with just GRUB on it?
[05:26] <dsprc> allenrm: after you run xconfig i think you can try 'startx'
[05:27] <epicnah> can i install vmware workstation on a ubuntu cloud server ? xD
[05:32]  * mystica555-work honestly wonders who's idea it was to wait over 2 bloody minutes for DHCP at bootup -- if it didn't get a DHCP address in about 20 seconds, IT WONT EVER GET A DHCP ADDRESS, why the hell is it waiting forever and making me pull my hair out because i cant ctrl-c it?
[05:33]  * epicnah always
[05:34] <dsprc> ah, i got my problem all sorted out. now to go help that one guy.. :)
[05:38] <grendal_prime> ok guys help me out
[05:39] <radaaam> hey guys, does anybody know why my torrents instantly say 'download failed' when running a torrent on torrentflux 2.4? using ubuntu 14.04
[05:39] <grendal_prime> its been like a 100 years since i had to set up a dual boot on a machine that already has linux on it
[05:39] <grendal_prime> i have an external drive...i cant remember what the hell windows does to the mbr..
[05:39] <DrRodneyMckay> Torrentflux hasent been updated in over 6 years..
[05:40] <japoneris> I have broken W8 installing linux
[05:40] <radaaam> DrRodneyMckay yeah i know, figured it should still work tho
[05:40] <DrRodneyMckay> Not sure why it wont work, Try changing the torrent backend that its using, Look in the logs for the torrent client, But i stopped using it a few years ago after no updates for many years
[05:40] <grendal_prime> is there a way when installing it to have it only install Including the mbr to a second usb attached drive and then adjusing grub to point to it as a potential os to us?
[05:40] <radaaam> are there any alternatives DrRodneyMckay ?
[05:40] <DrRodneyMckay> Im not sure when it was updated, but there was a fork - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TorrentFlux#TorrentFlux-b4rt
[05:41] <radaaam> hmm
[05:41] <radaaam> didnt know about torrentflux ng
[05:41] <DrRodneyMckay> Torrentflux NG - https://github.com/epsylon3/torrentflux
[05:41] <DrRodneyMckay> Oh lol
[05:41] <radaaam> looks like the torrent back end is using transmission
[05:41] <grendal_prime> and why does it take soooo long to write a windows install image to usb?  this is like watching golf.
[05:41] <DrRodneyMckay> Yeh i just saw that one as well, It looks like its the most up to date fork of TF
[05:42] <radaaam> think torrentflux uses bittornado ?
[05:42] <grendal_prime> who cares use bittorrent
[05:42] <grendal_prime> ITS THE BOMB!!
[05:42] <DrRodneyMckay> radaaam: By default, Yes
[05:42] <radaaam> grendal_prime its on a server
[05:42] <radaaam> dont have a desktop
[05:42] <grendal_prime> or... as my kids say ITS EPIC
[05:43] <grendal_prime> radaaam, i could swear there are command lines for that
[05:44] <grendal_prime> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65387/is-there-bittorrent-software-that-runs-in-a-terminal
[05:44] <grendal_prime> transmission
[05:45] <DrRodneyMckay> Or rtorrent
[05:45] <DrRodneyMckay> rtorrent is the bomb
[05:45] <grendal_prime> transmission-daemon). The daemon can be setup so that it may be interacted with through the terminal and through a web interface.
[05:46] <grendal_prime> why you need torrent client on server anyway?
[05:46] <DrRodneyMckay> He might have a Seedbox, Might be a server running at his house to do torrents... Theres lots of reasons
[05:46] <agent_white> Probably for a "seed box".
[05:47] <DrRodneyMckay> I know i prefer to run my torrents off one of my Ded Servers that has 1gbit to the net.. Seeding at 50mb/s is always nice
[05:47] <ghostnik11> i can't find my internal bluethooth adapter even though i know its in my machine.  when i run the commands lsubs and lspci it doesn't show anything on bluethooh
[05:47] <grendal_prime> just wondering.  I seen a lot of creativity with torrents now in the corprate world..push the filling off to the workerbees.
[05:49] <grendal_prime> its like (here ya go here is your company laptop, by the way you got a tone of stuffs on that that is part of all our stuffs...hope you gots the BB at your house"
[05:49] <addy> varunendra: Hi Varun, are you there?
[05:50] <radaaam> DrRodneyMckay sorry mate, on the phone :P apple are trying to keep my macbook by saying the warrenty has been voided as i upgraded the ram, however,its not he ram thats faulty, the hard drive is. nthey wont return it unless i pay like $300 for the hd to be replaced and them put their own ram in...
[05:50] <radaaam> lol
[05:50] <DrRodneyMckay> That sucks
[05:50] <DrRodneyMckay> My Main job is working with Apple stuff all day.
[05:50] <DrRodneyMckay> Hold on, Ram is user servicable anyway
[05:51] <radaaam> i know!
[05:51] <DrRodneyMckay> radaaam: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1651
[05:51] <grendal_prime> apple is really good at that crap
[05:51] <radaaam> yet they are saying i've voided the warrenty by replacing it
[05:51] <radaaam> ya i got that page up already
[05:51] <grendal_prime> that machine is built for people who speak like apes...sorry but its true
[05:52] <DrRodneyMckay> Bias is a trait of Apes as well.
[05:53] <grendal_prime> i have one of the white ones...with the batery that can be replaced....anyway..it just started whit screening (it was given to me from work)
[05:53] <DrRodneyMckay> Every machine serves its purpose, and if you cant see or accept that - Then its time to move on from this industry as Apple is only going to get more and more into the enterpise
[05:53] <DrRodneyMckay> White ones are crap
[05:53] <grendal_prime> i called them and they said...we are sorry we no longer support that model...i asked what i was supposed to do and they said "buy a new one"
[05:54] <DrRodneyMckay> Thats usually what happens when you have a 5 year old laptop
[05:54] <radaaam> DrRodneyMckay consumer affairs refered me to accc :@
[05:54] <DrRodneyMckay> Or bring it into the Apple store, Get them to run diagnostics and buy the parts of ebay your self
[05:54] <grendal_prime> apple sucks and you know it..
[05:54] <radaaam> this is the first problem i've had :@
[05:55] <DrRodneyMckay> IBM wont service or even look at my T Series from years ago. So its not just Apple.
[05:55] <grendal_prime> you should get an apple wheel computer you sound perfect for that machine
[05:56] <radaaam> DrRodneyMckay what state r u in mate?
[05:56] <DrRodneyMckay> Got enough machines, 2 MacBook Pros, 1 Mac Mini, 1 PC Desktop and 3 Linux Boxes in a rack.
[05:56] <xangua> !ot
[05:56] <radaaam> oer a mac mini!
[05:56] <grendal_prime> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
[05:56] <DrRodneyMckay> radaaam: PM me so we dont take this channel off topic
[05:58] <grendal_prime> its THAT FUNNY aint it...
[05:58] <grendal_prime> hahahahah
[05:58] <grendal_prime> im out
[06:01] <grendal_prime> DrRodneyMckay, why would you have all that when you can virtualize all of it?
[06:03] <painitx> Probably the wrong place to ask ... but what is your favorite and in your opinion the best Linux distro ?
[06:04] <grendal_prime> ubuntu lts
[06:04] <grendal_prime> been doing this over 10 years
[06:04] <grendal_prime> 13 actually
[06:04] <grendal_prime> big debian fan for a long time..but ubuntu does desktop support much better
[06:06] <grendal_prime> besides its all based on debian anyway
[06:06] <bipul> Installing Ubuntu 12.04, required a lot of time.
[06:07] <bipul> sorry Ubuntu 14.04 *
[06:07] <grendal_prime> compaired to what?
[06:07] <grendal_prime> oh..i dont know..i dont use it..its not actually lts yet
[06:07] <grendal_prime> crap..i have to dual boot a machine..i dont want to do this to my netbook...grrrr
[06:12] <farsi_> which python version comes preinstalled with ubuntu 12.04?
[06:14] <grendal_prime> the best one...i got to roll...its been real its been fun...and you know the rest
[06:20] <varunendra> addy, now I am.
[06:21] <patrick_> hi
[06:22] <patrick_> lag wifi
[06:23] <somsip> !python precise | farsi
[06:23] <varunendra> !details | patrick_
[06:23] <somsip> !info python precise | fatminmin
[06:23] <somsip> farsi ^^^
[06:23] <patrick_> im just saying my wifi is lagging
[06:24] <patrick_> motel wifi is lagging
[06:24] <patrick_> heh
[06:38] <linocisco> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr23aK2Il7w
[06:44] <Znoosey> hi, when running "sudo apt-get upgrade" I just get a ton of errors and then it stops at 88% saying "waiting for headers" is there something wrong with my installation or something else?
[06:44] <SirLagz> Znoosey: without knowing the errors, I'm going to take a guess and say that you're machine isn't connected to the internet.
[06:45] <Znoosey> SirLagz: well I'm here talking to you, so I think I'm connected :P
[06:45] <SirLagz> Znoosey: it would help if you pastebinned the errors
[06:45] <Beldar> Znoosey, run the update and upgrade and pastebin all of it.
[06:45] <Znoosey> Err http://no.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-backports/restricted amd64 Packages
[06:45] <Znoosey>   404  Not Found
[06:45] <samhassell> might be a temporary issue with some of the repos you are using
[06:45] <Znoosey> that is basically the gist of it, they are all alike
[06:45] <Beldar> Znoosey, quantal is eol
[06:46] <Znoosey> Beldar: yes, and I tried to do a dist-upgrade, with same results
[06:46] <Beldar> !quantal | Znoosey
[06:46] <SirLagz> Znoosey: also, it could have been another machine that you were having issues with :P
[06:46] <disappearedng> Can someone explain what this means? "Also in the child (project) makefile that you are creating, you can create your own makefile targets and based on the target pass in the appropriate values to your program."
[06:47] <edition> is there an App similar to OpenMPT.
[06:47] <Znoosey> thanks Beldar I'll try their instructions :)
[06:47] <Beldar> Znoosey, for what?
[06:48] <Znoosey> Beldar: upgrading
[06:48] <Beldar> Znoosey, There are two eol's after quantal I would fresh install 14.04
[06:48] <Beldar> erry, one anyway
[06:49] <Beldar> I was right first time 13.04 and 13.10 are eol Znoosey
[06:50] <Znoosey> Beldar: I'm getting a new computer in like a month, I was hoping to not have to do that until I switch
[06:51] <Beldar> Znoosey, Just no support for eol's is all and no security upgrades.
[06:51] <Znoosey> Beldar: well it won't let me install packages either :/
[06:52] <Beldar> yep
[06:52] <SirLagz> Znoosey: your repos probably remove the Quantal files
[06:53] <Znoosey> SirLagz: probably, do you know how to fix it? As I have no clue what so ever
[06:53] <Beldar> Znoosey, Your new computer will probably be a uefi setup so this upgrade is not transferable if that is the case.
[06:53] <SirLagz> Znoosey: try a different repo and see if they still have Quantal
[06:53] <Znoosey> Beldar: I'm not going to transfer anything to my new computer
[06:54] <Beldar> SirLagz, eol's loose repos no matter what repo.
[06:55] <SirLagz> Beldar: what do you mean by "loose repos" ? They're no longer as tight ? :P
[06:55] <varunendra> Znoosey, repositories for EOL versions are moved to "old-releases.." after some time. Means you can still get packages (old ones) by changing "no.ubuntu" with "old-releases.ubuntu" in your source.list files.
[06:56] <Beldar> SirLagz, Dude this is common knowledge and you should know if your going to help, the eol's are taken out if the ubuntu repos.
[06:56] <Beldar> don't just guess
[06:56] <SirLagz> Beldar: I was commenting on your bad english.
[06:57] <SirLagz> anyway. I'll be out of here then
[06:58] <varunendra> Znoosey, if you wish to try fixing the problem on the existing installation, you should start by pasting the whole output to pastebin and posting its link here.
[06:59] <varunendra> SirLagz, no need to take it so seriously, not everyone here is a native English speaker.
[06:59] <Znoosey> varunendra: thank you for the help, but this is a project far outside my comfort zone so I'll just wait :)
[07:00] <SirLagz> varunendra: I agree, I made my comment in jest.
[07:00] <varunendra> Znoosey, usually it is just a 'sed' command that can fix the 'sources.list' file to make it suitable with changed repo address.
[07:00] <varunendra> SirLagz, even though I know the difference between lose and loose, I could make the same mistake (besides typo) :)
[07:01] <SirLagz> varunendra: Indeed
[07:02] <ubuntuser13> varunendra: please tell me how to create a regional loco team.
[07:03] <varunendra> ubuntuser13, I don't know about that, and have answered what I know in #ubuntu-in :)
[07:23] <fatminmin> Hello
[07:25] <Blue1> hello
[07:25] <patrick-> yello
[07:32] <ubuntu13> how do I  access the compiz configuration manager?
[07:32] <ubuntu13> I can't find it in system settings
[07:33] <Beldar> ubuntu13, install it
[07:33] <ubuntu13> I did
[07:33] <ubuntu13> is it because I am using it as livecd?
[07:33] <ubuntu13> I used apt-get install
[07:34]  * Ridley5 LoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoL ubuntu13
[07:34] <Beldar> ubuntu13, Note  I am using your nick to address you. A live cd is reading the disc unless you untick it.
[07:34] <ubuntu13> how do you untick it Beldar ?
[07:35] <ubuntu13> I am using xchat which I installed
[07:35] <ubuntu13> so why not compiz configuration manager?
[07:35] <Beldar> ubuntu13, software & updares or the sources.list
[07:35] <Beldar> updates*
[07:35] <ubuntu13> I just want to open compiz configuration manager
[07:36] <Beldar> ubuntu13, Why are you doing this all on a live setup?
[07:36] <ubuntu13> compizconfig settings manager
[07:36] <Ridley5> ubuntu13 : To open the Settings Manager, click System, mouseover Preferences and select Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[07:36] <ubuntu13> cause I wanna see if things work before I make the switch
[07:37] <ubuntu13> where is system?
[07:37] <Beldar> ubuntu13, we use nicks every time we address another user here, use a vm a live is a bad way to investigate.
[07:38] <Ridley5> system setting ubuntu13 on your menu list
[07:38] <ubuntu13> I don't see preferences
[07:39] <Beldar> ubuntu13, I would not just switch do a dual boot easily made and easily removed. A live is reading the live iso in the end and has limitations, jut not an ideal way.
[07:39] <konvexdaten_> I connected by ubuntu dell laptop on my 40' smart TV, but I can't change the resolution
[07:39] <konvexdaten_> it is just 1024xx600
[07:39] <konvexdaten_> how do I change it?
[07:40] <ubuntu13> system settings then select displays konvexdaten_
[07:40] <konvexdaten_> I am actually running lubuntu :P
[07:41] <ubuntu13> oh well then I dunno
[07:42] <konvexdaten_> no one?
[07:42] <ubuntu13> maybe try  #lubuntu konvexdaten_
[07:44] <ubuntu13> how come my wifi works but bluetooth doesn't? I mean because my wifi card is dual it is wifi plus bluetooth
[07:44] <ubuntu13> would make sense it would be able to use it
[07:45] <konvexdaten_> try #bluetooth ubuntu13 :P
[07:45] <Beldar> !away | CyberJacob|Away
[07:47] <ubuntu13> my name is greg burton
[07:47] <ubuntu13> but you can call me putt putt
[07:47] <ubuntu13> :)
[07:48] <konvexdaten_> Nice, ubuntu13
[07:52] <ubuntu13> why does ubuntu support my wifi card but doesn't support the bluetooth that is builtin to the wifi card?
[07:52] <omerraja> hello, I cant connect to the internet through wireless, Ethernet and USB are working fine. Ubuntu 14.04
[07:52] <omerraja> crucial. Please help me out
[07:52] <konvexdaten_> omerraja
[07:52] <konvexdaten_> maybe you need some drivers
[07:53] <omerraja> ive tried a number of commands in the terminal
[07:53] <ubuntu13> such as?
[07:54] <omerraja>  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[07:54] <omerraja> and stuff like this
[07:54] <omerraja> Im kinda new to the terminal
[07:54] <omerraja> i dont know much
[07:54] <omerraja> I just copy and paste whateever I see in relative answers on askubuntu
[07:54] <omerraja> normaly works but this isnt working
[07:54] <omerraja> :S
[07:55] <omerraja> And im stuck in the middle of something really urgent
[07:57] <ubuntu13> how do I open a terminal in nautilus?
[07:57] <ubuntu13> usually has an option for it in the menu but I can't find it
[07:57] <doge_wow> omerraja: this can have so many causes... it's impossible to say what's wrong just from this sentence: "The wifi is not working".
[08:01] <Amaze-balls> Good morning
[08:04] <varunendra> omerraja, which wireless card do you have? (output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net")
[08:04] <fatminmin> ubuntu13: I don't think nautilus has that feature anymore
[08:04] <varunendra> ubuntu13, even though wifi and bluetooth are on same card, they use different drivers and software sets. So it is not uncommon for one to work and other not.
[08:06] <FredddyTom> hey.. skype just disappeared from my computer today
[08:07] <FredddyTom> and i have no idea why.. i didn't uninstall it
[08:07] <Guest4602> Hello people! I need help
[08:07] <Guest4602> I have messed up grub and now I can't restore it
[08:07] <Guest4602> I am now on a live CD
[08:07] <FredddyTom> the binary is missing, all that's left is a bunch of help files and a dpkg/info/skype-bin.list etc  but the binary is missing
[08:07] <Guest4602> does any 1 help me?
[08:08] <varunendra> Guest4602, what have you tried so far to restore grub?
[08:08] <Amaze-balls> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[08:10] <sakokap> i installed and removed a program thru wine but there are still remnants of it remaining in wine. how do i completely remove it? help.
[08:10] <Guest4602> Well i already have followed the above link
[08:11] <Guest4602> but sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev on this command it says
[08:11] <Guest4602> no mount point /mnt/dev
[08:12] <Guest4602> and nothing goes OK
[08:12] <Guest4602> I am using Lubuntu derivative LXLE live CD
[08:12] <varunendra> Guest4602, have you also tried boot-repair already? It is usually much easier and error free for normal booting issues.
[08:13] <Guest4602> boot-repair tool?
[08:13] <_1_johnthomasdou> hi
[08:13] <varunendra> Guest4602, yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:14] <nrdb> I am having trouble with grub-install --- when I use the command "grub-install  /dev/disk/by-id/ata...." but it returns an error "grub-install: error: failed to get coanonical path of '/dev/ata....'"  ... without the correct directory path
[08:15] <Guest4602> sudo sed 's/trusty/saucy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list on this command it says
[08:16] <Guest4602> sed: can't read /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list: No such file or directory
[08:16] <kcj> Er, my right alt is doing some sort of extra layer nonsense. How do I turn this off?
[08:16] <varunendra> nrdb, are you following some specific guide? Why don't you use just "sudo grub-install /dev/sdx" - where x is the drive you want to install grub on?
[08:17] <nrdb> varunendra, I did ... it gives the exact same error.
[08:18] <varunendra> nrdb, maybe the outputs of "sudo parted -l" and the exact command you are using could help. Give us the pastebin link of these.
[08:19] <nafg___> Hi, what are my options if hibernating fails?
[08:19] <nafg___> Really, resume from hibernate fails.
[08:19] <nafg___> It stalls on the logo (plymouth) screen
[08:20] <nafg___> Lenovo W540 laptop
[08:20] <nafg___> Is there a way to switch the hibernate subsystem?
[08:20] <nafg___> I seem to recall something like that
[08:23] <sakokap> i installed and removed a program thru wine but there are still remnants of it remaining in wine. how do i completely remove it? help.
[08:24] <Rohan_m> Hwy How do i get into other user's home directory when i'm logged in as root ?
[08:25] <Rohan_m> Hwy How do i get into other user's home directory when i'm logged in as root ?
[08:26] <Rohan_m> Hwy How do i get into other user's home directory when i'm logged in as root ?
[08:27] <pdelaneau> cd /path/to/user/home
[08:27] <somsip> Rohan_m: cd /home/{username}
[08:27] <pdelaneau> you can find the pass into /etc/passwd
[08:27] <pdelaneau> path
[08:27] <pdelaneau> not pass xD
[08:27] <Trudko> Hi Guys, what are plans for better support for laptops. I just installed Ubuntu on XPS 12 and I am bit dissapointed. Touchad disabling isnt working properly , battery life is worse even than bloated windows and I found TLP but given that we are talking about such a important problem as batterz life TLP sucks from ease of use point of view and touchscreen support is terrible. Dont get me...
[08:27] <geirha> cd ~user
[08:27] <Trudko> ...wrong I still use it  I am just curious what are plans for it
[08:28] <Trudko> I am even willing to send some monez for it
[08:28] <Rohan_m> somsip: like this cd /home/raj
[08:28] <somsip> Rohan_m: yes
[08:28] <Rohan_m> somsip: thanks man god bless you
[08:29] <aeon-ltd> Trudko: no plans, but the regular
[08:29] <linocisco> hi all
[08:29] <linocisco> how to change crypt password sda5cryp?
[08:29] <raj> stop hacking my computer rohan
[08:29] <raj> oh
[08:30] <nichlas> hehe
[08:31] <nafg___> What is status of uswswap  in ubuntu trusty? Should I try it?
[08:32] <emx> am i mistaken that thunderbird has lightning installed by default?
[08:32] <nafg___> Err, I meant uswsusp
[08:33] <varunendra> Trudko, Ubuntu default uses compiz for Unity, which can be a real resource hog sometimes, especially if graphics is not properly supported. To get better battery life on Ubuntu, try some light weight desktop environment like XFCE, and make sure you have correct drivers that properly support the hardware. I get almost same battery backup as win7 on my laptop (with Unity!) without TLP or anything like that.
[08:34] <ljunggren> hm
[08:35] <Ridley5> i hate Unity
[08:35] <Ridley5> i use classic session with no effects
[08:38] <cleopatra> hello ubunters
[08:39] <kcj> I wish for my right alt to simply be an alt key. Could somebody please help?
[08:39] <Trudko> aeon-ltd: what do you mean by but regular?
[08:42] <Trudko> varunendra: well sure you can tinker with it and get bettery life, but I cant understand why you still have to tinker with this stuff in the first place my question is what are the solutions and what we can do about it? Also I am bit surprised that Ubuntu didnt implement any solution right out of the box
[08:43] <nichlas> Trudko: with my laptops the issue is always ATI/AMD Drivers that makes it heat up and use up all power. Those drivers can be fixed with a little work, but does not work very well on default install.
[08:43] <sakokap> ah, ok. this worked for removing leftover entries in wine. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae50079ca7a959258f0bc9a17aaf2e69b391
[08:43] <ljunggren> /disconnect
[08:43] <ljunggren> ios
[08:43] <ljunggren> lol
[08:44] <kcj> Fixed it. Obscure noise.
[08:44] <Trudko> nichlas: personally I dont have external gpu, but I would expect at least something simple as performance profiles, so brightness would decrease when on battery
[08:44] <richard_w> i might have found a bug in libnss-ldapd or nslcd in 14.04. Someone here familiar with these packages?
[08:45] <richard_w> when the workstation is started nslcd does not get the kerberos tickets
[08:45] <richard_w> only restarting it manually seems to work. even doing it in /etc/rc.local does not help.#
[08:45] <cleopatra> how i upgrade ubuntu from 10.4 to the last?
[08:46] <ikonia> !eol | grep cleopatra
[08:46] <ikonia> !eolupgrade | cleopatra
[08:46] <ikonia> sorry my buffer got screwed up then
[08:46] <cleopatra> nice guys
[08:47] <varunendra> Trudko, install a crappy graphics driver on windows, and don't install power management software/drivers, then see how badly it sucks power from the battery. Same is the case with any other OS. Good driver support = better battery life. Ubuntu is no different, and it can't do much about device drivers - it is mostly the area that the kernel developers have to take care of.
[08:47] <ikonia> odd, the bot's not given you the second link
[08:47] <ikonia> !eolupgrade | cleopatra
[08:48] <ikonia> there you go
[08:48] <ikonia> oh, it's the same
[08:48] <ikonia> sorry, my mistake
[08:51] <nichlas> does anyone know if a 14.04.1 will be released as some point?
[08:51] <DJones> nichlas: Its due in the next couple of days
[08:51] <ikonia> nichlas: yes it will
[08:51] <nichlas> DJones: ok, then my server will be ready
[08:52] <DJones> nichlas: 24th July according to the release schedule
[08:53] <Rohan_m> How i access .ssh folder of other users ? if i am logged in as root
[08:53] <somsip> Rohan_m: you don't
[08:53] <Rohan_m> somsip: why?
[08:53] <somsip> Rohan_m: sorry, as root, /home{user}/.ssh
[08:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you don't
[08:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you shouldn't be logged in as root
[08:53] <ikonia> and those are peoples personal folders
[08:53] <emx> ikonia, hackers don't care!
[08:54] <ikonia> emx: then we don't help
[08:54] <nrdb> varunendra, http://pastebin.com/CWXKXg53
[08:54] <cai> hello there
[08:54] <emx> ikonia, huh? i'm innocent :P
[08:54] <Rohan_m> ikonia: no i'm not hacker its a project i have to create dynamic files
[08:54] <nrdb> varunendra, there seems to be something wrong with how the disk is setup.
[08:54] <ikonia> Rohan_m: then a.) you don't need to be logged in as root - as that is against the ubuntu privilege model b.) you don't need access to other peoples keys
[08:55] <Rohan_m> somsip: bro i have created a new user raj and in raj's home directory there is no .ssh directory ?
[08:55] <ikonia> Rohan_m: login as those users
[08:55] <zol_grok> Hi! How do you use BDF/PSF/PCF fonts (https://github.com/Lokaltog/powerline-fonts/tree/master/Terminus) on ubuntu?
[08:56] <zol_grok> I can't get this patched terminus font to show up in Terminator
[08:56] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i login as raj i open home directory i make "ls -a" and i see no ".ssh" there
[08:56] <cai> Can you tell me what 's the meaning ''Failed to load session ubuntu''?
[08:56] <emx> Rohan_m, initially there is no .ssh. only when files are generated such as known_hosts or private and public key
[08:56] <ikonia> Rohan_m: login via ssh
[08:57] <raj> Rohan_m, stay the $#@% out of my home directory
[08:57] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i am already using ssh login !
[08:57] <raj> last warning
[08:57] <Rohan_m> raj: LOLOLOL
[08:57] <ikonia> raj: stop it
[08:57] <ikonia> raj: there is no need for bad language
[08:57] <raj> ikonia, which word were you referring to?
[08:57] <ikonia> Rohan_m: if you have ssh'd in as that user, the .ssh directory gets created
[08:57] <ikonia> raj: the ones you are starting out,
[08:58] <raj> heck?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !details | cai
[08:58] <ikonia> raj: please don't play games, we know what you are trying to say, that's why you star'd it out, so just stop it please.
[08:58] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i dont get it please elaborate
[08:58] <makara> hi. How can I mount a samba fileshare. I want to run 'du' from terminal
[08:58] <varunendra> nrdb, gpt + zfs = something far far beyond my area of expertise. No clues really. But if it is indeed a GPT based partition scheme, I believe you simply can't install grub on its MBR (because there isn't one). In GPT scheme, the grub, as far as I know, can only be installed on partitions, then EFI takes care of booting it.
[08:58] <Rohan_m> raj: Nice one fella nice one !
[08:59] <zol_grok> Hi! How do you use BDF/PSF/PCF fonts (https://github.com/Lokaltog/powerline-fonts/tree/master/Terminus) on ubuntu?
[08:59] <ikonia> Rohan_m: when you ssh into the machine as the new user, it will create the directory
[08:59] <cai> cfhowlett..ok,thanks.i will find it with the website of ubuntu.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> cai :)
[09:00] <raj> ikonia, I try not to say he11, please don't be so sensitive about something that doesn't exist. Assumptions are the mother of all mess ups!
[09:00] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok i made a ssh login  like this  from my pc  "ssh raj@myremotePC" should this be enogh
[09:00] <ikonia> raj: then why did you say "heck"
[09:00] <ikonia> raj: simple rule - if you have to star out the word - don't use it
[09:00] <raj> in case you would freak out about the use of he||
[09:01] <ikonia> raj: so then simple rule - if you need to star out the word, don't use it
[09:01] <raj> not sure how kosher you are
[09:01] <ikonia> Rohan_m: that should create the .ssh directory
[09:01] <cfhowlett> raj keep your discussion to technical matters, leave the comedy for someplace other than ubuntu support = problem solved.
[09:01] <aeon-ltd> Trudko: sorry for the late reply; ubuntu like all linux distros are made of parts/packages and they are all separately maintained so the amount of control canonical has over the battery life of ubuntu is limited, and as stated by others all users have different usage preferences so optimizing for one type of user may not be the best plan for ubuntu. developers in general will consider efficiency, writing a package that's a cpu hog isn't good on desktop or
[09:01] <aeon-ltd> laptop.
[09:02] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok let me show you the "ls -a" of user "raj's" home directory
[09:02] <zol_grok> When I try to run "setfont" I get the error "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[09:03] <Rohan_m> ikonia: this is what all i get there ".  ..  .bash_history  .bash_logout  .bashrc  .cache  .profile
[09:03] <Rohan_m> "
[09:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: please pastebin the output of the command "ls -la /home/raj"
[09:03] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok Friend
[09:04] <FiR3WaLL> Hello :-) I`ve installed package and now have a problem with dependiences. When i trying to install '/ update any package in my system aptitude saying that some packages have unmeet dependiences. Only solution is to remove that I cannot do. It`s custom package provided by my old sys admin... Any way to say ubuntu to ignore everything related to that package ? I dont have deb anymore so cannot reinstall it . Only option is remove it
[09:04] <ikonia> FiR3WaLL remove the packages that cause the conflict
[09:05] <FiR3WaLL> ikonia: i cannot using it every day to conenct to company software.
[09:05] <nichlas> Rohan_m, ikonia: it's just a directory, isn't it easier to just create it (and chmod, chown properly)? It sounds like Rohan_m is planing to modify it manualy anyways?
[09:05] <raj> would be nice if you could use an arbitrary /home/user directory so I could stop being highlighted, thanks
[09:05] <ikonia> FiR3WaLL then you need to mainain that package then
[09:05] <ikonia> nichlas: it's a problem that it's not created
[09:06] <ikonia> nichlas: I'd rather see what the problem is than mask it
[09:06] <ikonia> and then have to hit it with a more serious problem later
[09:06] <Rohan_m> ikonia: here it is http://www.codejaw.com/37cq1
[09:07] <ikonia> Rohan_m: when you are logged in as "raj" do "ssh localhost" and see if that creates .ssh for you
[09:08] <Rohan_m> ikonia: No here i'm logged in as root and for root's home directory there is .ssh directory
[09:08] <Rohan_m> nichlas: would it work form normal ssh authentication
[09:08] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so again - you should not be logged in as root
[09:09] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok tell the ssh command i should make
[09:09] <ikonia> Rohan_m: my instructions where "login as that user"
[09:09] <Rohan_m> ikonia: should i login as raj
[09:09] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I told you to login as raj via ssh"
[09:09] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok wait a sec
[09:09] <raj> no, you two should stop highlighting me
[09:09] <richardjh> To build a dash search querying an API, should I be looking at lenses or are they replaced by scopes? Looking for a starting point here.
[09:09] <nichlas> Rohan_m: unless there is a problem, as ikonia suspects, it makes no difference if the directory was created automatically or manually.
[09:10] <nichlas> Rohan_m: but if there *is* a problem, it will not work either way.
[09:10] <richardjh> Struggling to see what is still current info
[09:11] <makara> hello. Why won't mount command accept 'smbfs' as the type?
[09:11] <ikonia> makara: because that's not a valid file system
[09:12] <Rohan_m> ikonia: fella is same again now i made a ssh logged in as "raj" via "ssh raj@remotePC" and i got this on ls -la http://www.codejaw.com/w45l5
[09:12] <ikonia> Rohan_m: right, now do "ssh localhost" while you are logged in as raj
[09:13] <Rohan_m> ikonia: cool
[09:13] <Rohan_m> ikonia: now there is a .ssh directory
[09:14] <Rohan_m> ikonia: cool cool thing
[09:14] <makara> ikonia: The filesystem types which are  currently  supported  include:  adfs,
[09:14] <makara>               affs,  autofs,  cifs,  coda,  coherent,  cramfs, debugfs, devpts, efs, ext, ext2, ext3, ext4, hfs, hfsplus, hpfs, iso9660, jfs, minix, msdos,
[09:14] <makara>               ncpfs, nfs, nfs4, ntfs, proc, qnx4, ramfs, reiserfs, romfs, squashfs, smbfs, sysv, tmpfs, ubifs, udf, ufs, umsdos, usbfs, vfat,  xenix,  xfs,
[09:14] <makara>               xiafs.
[09:15] <cfhowlett> makara source for this data dump?
[09:15] <makara> the man file
[09:15] <makara> man mount
[09:16] <ikonia> makara: "man mount" does not show you available file systems
[09:16] <ikonia> makara: it also shows that the man page is out of date
[09:17] <nichlas> mkander: try using smbmount instead
[09:17] <makara> i tried smbmount
[09:17] <makara> no install candidate either
[09:17] <makara> can't find it
[09:18] <nichlas> mkander: what Ubuntu version are you on?
[09:18] <makara> nichlas: desktop 14.04
[09:18] <nichlas> oh, maybe this will help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232998/how-do-i-install-smbmount
[09:18] <nichlas> cifs is used instead of smbfs
[09:20] <nichlas> mkander: ikonia was right, the docs are not up to date.
[09:22] <makara> ok, ok. So I've tried "mount -t cifs -o username=BigCorp/Makara,rw //<IP_ADDRESS>/f /mnt/storage"
[09:22] <makara> is that format correct? I get "mount error(13): Permission denied"
[09:24] <nichlas> mkander: does it need the workgroup? Non of the examples i've been looking at has included that.
[09:24] <makara> nichlas: The share is part of a Windows AD domain
[09:25] <makara> no workgroup
[09:25] <linocisco> how to change crypt password sda5cryp?
[09:25] <nichlas> mkander: oh domain then. I assume that BigCorp is the domain.
[09:26] <nichlas> mkander: have you tried adding the password= parameter?
[09:26] <makara> nichlas: got it. there's a "domain=" option
[09:26] <makara> so frikking happy
[09:31] <nichlas> linocisco: do you know the old password
[09:34] <NilBud> Anyone else having issues connecting to canonical archive during an apt-get update?
[09:35] <k1l> NilBud: is it the ubuntu repo or is it a 3rd party one like the steam repo?
[09:35] <NilBud> Ubuntu repo.
[09:35] <nichlas> NilBud: i ran update just minutes aco with no problem at security.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <nichlas> NilBud: dk.archive.ubuntu.com gave no problems either.
[09:36] <linocisco> nichlas, sorry. I got it fixed that
[09:36] <nrdb> varunendra, I am going to wipe the disk and try again... to see if I can get it to work.
[09:36] <NilBud> I'll try it again. Tried about 10 mirrors. Was able to install what I needed. But, figured I would ask first.
[09:36] <k1l> NilBud: can you pastebin the output from apt-tget update?
[09:37] <NilBud> It just sits at "connecting to archive.canonical.com" everything else is fine.
[09:37] <NilBud> I'll get you an output though.
[09:39] <NilBud> kIl: http://pastebin.com/3Z1vDBtk
[09:40] <k1l> NilBud: how long did you wait there?
[09:42] <NilBud> kIl: 20-25 minutes.
[09:42] <NilBud> Never gave a timeout. Which in itself is strange.
[09:42] <k1l> NilBud: yeah, i just wanted  to make sure it was more than 30 sec :)
[09:42] <k1l> NilBud: i think about some ipv6 issue=?
[09:43] <NilBud> possible. I'll look into it. New PC, new install.
[09:43] <calzifer> hi, is there no nm-applet in 14.04?
[09:44] <k1l> NilBud: see if that helps: http://www.bearfruit.org/2013/05/06/ubuntu-server-having-ipv6-probs-its-easy-to-disable/
[09:45] <NilBud> Yup. v6 is chugging away.
[09:46] <NilBud> Let's see if it goes now.
[09:47] <NilBud> That did it.
[09:47] <NilBud> poor ipv6. Never works correctly.
[10:01] <linocisco> how to install ezcap DVB-T usb stick on ubuntu?
[10:01] <streulma> it seems that AMD Radeon 8670M and Ubuntu are not the best friends... How can I get audio out of HDMI with maybe the Intel driver?
[10:02] <epicnah> test
[10:15] <internetpanda> hey guys, had a quick question. I am running dual monitors, and it put a menubar on the second monitor. Is there anyway to stop this behavior?
[10:15] <loa> internetpanda, maybe setting default monitor will fix this.
[10:16] <loa> what is menubar?
[10:16] <loa> unity dock?
[10:16] <loa> this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.21-14%3A16%3A20.png
[10:16] <internetpanda> loa no
[10:16] <k1l> internetpanda: see in "unity-tweak-tool" for settings where to place the launcher bar
[10:16] <internetpanda> top of the screen bar with clock on it
[10:17] <k1l> internetpanda: ah ok. that is supposed to be on both monitors
[10:17] <internetpanda> the unity dock can be disabled in display settings and I did that already
[10:17] <loa> internetpanda, why you want to do this?
[10:17] <internetpanda> I don't want it on both because if I have a video fullscreen it still overrides focus and displays over it
[10:17] <internetpanda> quite annoying
[10:17] <loa> strange fullscreen video...
[10:17] <k1l> internetpanda: well, the video program shout do a real fullscreen then
[10:18] <k1l> internetpanda: that will override the panel on top.
[10:18] <k1l> try to click doubled into the video.
[10:18] <DJones> internetpanda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107583/how-can-i-remove-duplicate-second-unity-launcher-on-a-dual-screen-setup
[10:18] <internetpanda> it does a real full screen, but if I click to my primary monitor and do something on it the bar displays
[10:18] <internetpanda> like it has to be super primary focus the entire time to override the menubar
[10:18] <loa> ah i remember such bug)
[10:19] <DJones> internetpanda: From memory & that link, there should be a setting in display settings about where you want the unity launcher to show
[10:19] <internetpanda> I already did that
[10:19] <k1l> DJones: its about the panel
[10:19] <internetpanda> not the unity launcher
[10:19] <internetpanda> the menubar panel
[10:19] <ajnr> hi , I am not able to enter my ubuntu 14.04 system after rebooting
[10:20] <internetpanda> but ya it's annoying and might make me go to a different distro because it didn't do this on arch with xfce
[10:20] <ajnr> hi , I am not able to enter my ubuntu 14.04 system after rebooting  please help me out !
[10:20] <internetpanda> what did you do before rebooting?
[10:20] <k1l> internetpanda: i just tested it on a 14.04 unity. the bar only displays when i click on a indicator on the other monitor. but when the indicator menue is gone the panel is gone too
[10:20] <ajnr> internetpanda, I just set the CLASSPATH of hjava
[10:20] <internetpanda> this is a fresh install with no setting changes
[10:21] <k1l> internetpanda: which video programm is it? (dont tell me its some flash stuff)
[10:21] <internetpanda> smplayer
[10:21] <ajnr> internetpanda, I just set the classpath of java
[10:22] <internetpanda> dude I saw what you said, but you're annoying and keep copy pasting over and over again so I am not gonna help you. sorry lol
[10:22] <internetpanda> k1l, what video player are you using?
[10:22] <k1l> internetpanda: like i said: i just tested it with totem. and the only time the panel displays is when i trigger the indicator menue on the other monitor
[10:22] <internetpanda> I can try whatever one you use and see if it's an sm player bug
[10:22] <internetpanda> k will try totem to see
[10:24] <internetpanda> does it in totem too
[10:24] <internetpanda> I think you're not doing what I am
[10:24] <internetpanda> try having irc on one monitor and the video full screen on the other
[10:24] <internetpanda> then try and type into irc
[10:25] <internetpanda> and the menubar on the video moitor should come into view
[10:25] <frenda> Is there any repo (or somthing else) to sync ~/.fonts to have latest font?
[10:25] <frenda> fonts*
[10:25] <internetpanda> apt-get update should update all font packages
[10:26] <internetpanda> frenda, I think you're having a different issue. I think you may have installed something that requires a separate font library because fonts are updated often at all
[10:26] <norbert> is it possible to make a simple rename request here related to the description of a package maintained by the "Ubuntu Core Developers"?
[10:26] <k1l> hmm. i just pushed hexchat to the first monitor and have a fullscreen (doubleclick into the video) running on the other 2nd monitor
[10:26] <k1l> and i dont see a panel on that 2nd monitor
[10:27] <blackest> Any idea where I want to be for help with pam_mount
[10:27] <internetpanda> did you click the hexchat and type into it?
[10:27] <internetpanda> when I do that it displays it on the second one
[10:27] <k1l> internetpanda: yep, i am doing it right now
[10:27] <internetpanda> weird
[10:27] <internetpanda> did you change any unity settings or anything? because mine are all stock
[10:28] <k1l> internetpanda: i dont recall to have set there anything special
[10:38] <pjdelport> Hi
[10:38] <pjdelport> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 on a Lenovo G580 laptop alongside Windows 8, and yesterday something weird happened, and it no longer boots into Ubuntu.
[10:39] <pjdelport> I have both Windows 8 (which came with the laptop) and Ubuntu installed in UEFI mode, and it worked without problems for months.
[10:40] <pjdelport> In the UEFI boot menu, both Ubuntu and Windows 8 are still listed as boot options (alongside network boot etc.)
[10:40] <pjdelport> However, both options just seem to make Windows 8 boot now.
[10:40] <IceBot3000> Have you done any Windows 8 updates?
[10:40] <pjdelport> Instead of the Ubuntu option loading GRUB / Ubuntu
[10:40] <pjdelport> IceBot3000: Nope, not before yesterday.
[10:41] <pjdelport> I rarely use the Windows 8 installation; I just kept it for the rare occasions I need to do something Windows-based for work.
[10:41] <pjdelport> (I'm booted into Windows 8 now, to try and figure out what's going on.)
[10:42] <IceBot3000> There's your problem, try booting into Ubuntu
[10:48] <Monkey_b> hey guys im trying to ugprade my ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 and having a rough time with sources
[10:48] <Monkey_b> apparently my sources.list is no longer good since they removed the repo for 13.04 updates, and not sure where to point my sources to
[10:48] <Monkey_b> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade fail
[10:48] <Monkey_b> i get 404's everywhere
[10:48] <pjdelport> IceBot3000: That was I was trying, but the Ubuntu loader seems to load Windows 8 only. :P
[10:49] <k1l> !eolupgrade | Monkey_b
[10:49] <golda> hello
[10:49] <golda> I have a question
[10:49] <DJones> Monkey_b: I suspect thats because 13.10 has gone to EOL on 17/7/14, I'm surprised the repo's have been removed so quickly though
[10:49] <m1dnight> just ask golda
[10:49] <golda> I'm in ubuntu 13.10 and I cannot right-click on the panel
[10:49] <golda> I get no manu
[10:49] <golda> menu*
[10:49] <Monkey_b> DJones: so i need a new machine with ubuntu 14?
[10:50] <Monkey_b> any way to upgrade from 13 to 14?
[10:50] <k1l> Monkey_b: see the bots message
[10:50] <NilBud> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:50] <DJones> Monkey_b: You should be able to upgrade to 13.10 using the bots message, and from that upgrade to 14.04 once thats done
[10:51] <golda> there are other things strange about the panel. for example in the sound applet I see no volume slider... there is space for it, it is just invisible.
[10:51] <Monkey_b> thank you guys
[10:51] <DJones> Monkey_b: Your other option would be to backup and do a fresh install of 14.04
[10:51] <pjdelport> Monkey_b: It's probably easier just to save your data and install 14.04 clean.
[10:51] <golda> but I figure if I can right-click and get a panel menu, then that is a start.
[10:51] <NilBud> Something you should be doing at least weekly anyway.
[10:51] <k1l> golda: you switched themes?
[10:51] <golda> any idea what might be blocking a right-click on the panel.
[10:51] <golda> k1l, no knowingly
[10:52] <pjdelport> So, is there any way to figure out what's happening with my computer, or figure out how to repair GRUB so that it actually boots Ubuntu instead of Windows 8?
[10:52] <k1l> golda: there is no right click anymore. the indicators just have a left-click menue. the panel only  got a right click menue if the window is maximized
[10:52] <golda> and right-clicking on any of the applets acts just like left click.
[10:53] <k1l> golda: yep
[10:53] <golda> so where do I get the panel menu? how do I re-arrange indicators? how do I get the things that used to be in the right-click menu but are not in the left?
[10:53] <k1l> golda: that is a compromise to make it touchscreen usable
[10:53] <Guest52384> somebub
[10:53] <golda> either that - or macification
[10:54] <golda> I like right clicking...
[10:54] <golda> but ok. how do I move indicators without a right click?
[10:54] <golda> and how do I add and remove applets without a right click?
[10:54] <SlayerGoury> you do not
[10:55] <k1l> golda: touchscreens make it to laptop and monitors. so there is a need to make them usable. for the indicators there is a white/blacklist anywhere
[10:55] <mike_> somebub
[10:55] <theadmin> I think on a touchscreen press and hold is the equivalent of rightclick
[10:55] <golda> so this is another example of ubuntu dumbing everything down until it is unusable? :(
[10:56] <k1l> golda: see if that works: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26114/is-it-possible-to-change-the-order-of-icons-in-the-indicator-applet
[10:56] <golda> thanks k1l I'll check
[10:56] <SlayerGoury> are unity indicators even movable at all?
[10:56] <theadmin> golda: Indicators on Ubuntu apps are designed in a way so that there's only one menu, that opens when you left-click, and no other actions are performed upon clicking. This is for consistency between apps.
[10:57] <theadmin> golda: Older apps that use tray icons rather than indicators still can be right-clicked if they support it themselves
[10:58] <golda> ok. I understand. but for example my logout icon is somewhere in the middle. it should be in the corner.
[10:58] <golda> and my sound applet does not work properly and I have no idea where to find its settings....
[10:59] <k1l> golda: yep it should be the last one
[10:59] <golda> it isn't
[10:59] <golda> wifi is the last one.
[10:59] <golda> which is strange.
[10:59] <theadmin> That's messed up
[10:59] <k1l> golda: maybe there was just a hickup. try to run all updates and relogin and see if that problem is still present
[11:01] <golda> I did. I also reinstalled the applet... and I installed unity-tweak and ubuntu-tweak to see if I could find options there.. but no
[11:03] <theadmin> golda: Try the following in a terminal: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[11:03] <theadmin> golda: (log out and back in afterwards, you may need to install dconf-tools)
[11:04] <golda> ok done. will logout and relogin. brb
[11:08] <golda> hi. I'm back.
[11:09] <golda> so. the menu looks correct on the login screen but when I log in, then the indicator applets are all wrong again.
[11:09] <golda> I tried deleting .config/compiz-1 but that didn't help.
[11:09] <theadmin> mmokay I have no idea why that happens
[11:10] <golda> how would I reset the unity config for the user (instead of deleting .compiz/compiz-1
[11:10] <IceBot3000> Terminal: unity -reset-all
[11:11] <golda> no such option -r
[11:11] <golda> --reset-all also not recognized
[11:11] <k1l> --reset-all ?
[11:11] <golda> unity: error: no such option: --reset-all
[11:12] <k1l> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[11:12] <golda> k1l thats what I did before rebooting.
[11:12] <golda> it still doesnt work for me
[11:12] <golda> though it works on the login screen
[11:13] <golda> unity --reset all   //   ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated
[11:16] <shoujangers> hello
[11:24] <golda> I have no lock-logout applet at all!
[11:25] <golda> now how do I log out?
[11:25] <golda> (and reenable that indicator)
[11:25] <internetpanda> hey k1l, I made a video showing the problem
[11:25] <internetpanda> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v8yIbMLqNg
[11:26] <golda> I reset compiz with dconf, but it still doesnt work when I log in. only on the login screen.
[11:26] <golda> wanted to reset for user.
[11:26] <golda> don't know how.
[11:29] <IceBot3000> Compiz should really be abandoned, no-one is supporting it :S
[11:34] <jjavaholic> !migration
[11:34] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[11:35] <ubuntu-studio> during mounting encrypted partition from older drive i have an error: mount: unknown filesystem type 'encryptfs'
[11:36] <ubuntu-studio> i have chrooted sys
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !encryption | ubuntu-studio
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio without the decryption password, you are highly unlikely to get access to those files
[11:39] <billetes> i need help, ubuntu studio, i wont to install macchanger
[11:39] <eeee> billetes: sudo apt-get install macchanger
[11:40] <tvle83> i changed from Unity to Gnome desktop and use docky. is there a known fix to be able to pin chrome to docky? there isnt an option when i have it opened and right click the icon
[11:40] <billetes> tnk
[11:47] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett: i,m mounted it but nside of folder i have some files like this one: -rw-------  1 1000 1000        0 May 26  2013 ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FXY4tjcEePlAMkSBpe6LUKvwQh6PZCRW5vp-cWiqeY7QMKm-UcmWtMQo.weKylwoxynBAUfLic8QtXg
[11:47] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio do you have the password?
[11:47] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[11:48] <ubuntu-studio> for login and long passphrase for drive
[11:49] <cfhowlett> ask again in this channel.  someone with more knowledge than I will likely assist.
[11:52] <ubuntu-studio> ok, thx
[12:15] <nbubuntu> can someone guide my through tar backup ? tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz  ? how to output to a different location after compress ?
[12:19] <nbubuntu> can someone guide my through tar backup ? tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz  ? how to output to a different location after compress ?
[12:19] <giorgiodinapoli> /tmp/backup.tar.gz
[12:19] <varunendra> nbubuntu, use -C option after the main command, followed by the desired location
[12:20] <nbubuntu> varunendra : ok , trying now
[12:26] <nbubuntu> varunendra : how to backup multiple folder in a folder ?
[12:26] <varunendra> nbubuntu, sorry, what I suggested was for extracting the contents. To create the archive in a different path, simply prefix the archive name with the path like giorgiodinapoli suggested.
[12:29] <nbubuntu> varunendra : how do I change the path ? like I wanted to create the archive file/folder from Home and output the archive to an external HDrive ?
[12:29] <kalc> d
[12:29] <varunendra> nbubuntu, simply "tar -cvpzf /tmp/backup.tar.gz <dir 1> <dir 2>" ?
[12:31] <nbubuntu> varunendra : sorry , I still dont get . Dir1 is the output ?
[12:32] <varunendra> nbubuntu, output is the "/tmp/backup.tar.gz", the <dir 1/2> are the directories to go into that archive
[12:34] <varunendra> nbubuntu, suppose your external drive is mounted at "/media/mydrive", and you want to backup the "Music" and "Docs" directories within your home, then the command will be "tar -cvpzf /media/mydrive/backup.tar.gz Music Docs"
[12:35] <nbubuntu> varunendra : thank , trying now
[12:38] <nbubuntu> varunendra : but does the Music DOcs  have path ?
[12:39] <varunendra> nbubuntu, path is not required if they are within the directory you are in (in the terminal), but if they are not within your Home directory (or where you are in the terminal), then you must use their full path.
[12:40] <IdleOne> if you always use the full path then you don't have to worry
[12:41] <varunendra> nbubuntu, I think if you use the full path, they will be backed up the same way - with full path within the archive.
[12:42] <varunendra> yup, confirmed ^^ nbubuntu
[12:43] <capprentice> Is there a OpenVPN GUI Configuration/Control Panel Available except Network Manager VPN plugin or KvPNC?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !vpn
[12:44] <nbubuntu> varunendra : Thanks it works , but if I wanted multiple folder , I have to "cd" to the directory and type the whole path ? any easier command to tar 25 folder in a time ?
[12:44] <karakedi> tting
[12:46] <capprentice> cfhowlett: That guide only lists what I already mentioned! If some one is aware of Some Easy GUI management tool.... ! I have tried Kvpnc, which was supposed to work with openvpn, but sadly it did not!
[12:46] <varunendra> nbubuntu, if all these folders are within one folder (say within "Docs" in your Home), you can take advantage of bash expansion, like - "tar -cvpzf /media/mydrive/backup.tar.gz ./Docs/{<dir1>,<dir2>....<dir25>"}
[12:47] <cfhowlett> capprentice ah, sorry my help was unhelpful.
[12:47] <varunendra> nbubuntu, but if they are located at different places, I don't think there is another way other than typing their full path on the command line.
[12:48] <cfhowlett> capprentice search software center for vpn - there are a few apps listed, but I've not used any of them.
[12:51] <bluj> hi.. i'm on 14.04 lts and i just hit restart for applying updates. now when my machine came back on, my 2nd monitor hooked up to my laptop reverted to 1024x768, and in screen settings it's missing all applicable resolutions. what's up?
[12:59] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  Ubuntu 14.04.  Any way to add image dimensions as a column in the file browser?
[12:59] <nbubuntu> varunendra : no matter how , I can't tar it even on any extra folder.Can you give me an example how to zip multiple folder ?
[12:59] <|Frodo|> hello! I am using kubuntu 12.04 LTS. recently I configured a vpnc-connection in networkmanager. now I get a new IP and it looks as if it is working. but how can I test, if all packets, UDP and TCP are going though that VPN?
[12:59] <MarcGuay> Found some stuff referring to "Nautilus columns" but appears to be outdated.
[13:01] <varunendra> nbubuntu, I tested myself with "tar -cvpzf Desktop/backup.tar.gz .adobe .compiz-1" to archive ".adobe" and ".compiz-1" directories (hidden, within my Home directory) in an archive "backup.tar.gz" on my Desktop.
[13:01] <kiran__> test
[13:01] <kiran__> how to buil a custom distro
[13:01] <_[myth> kiran__, go ahread
[13:01] <_[myth> ahead
[13:02] <varunendra> nbubuntu, the "tar -cvpzf Desktop/backup.tar.gz /home/varun/.adobe /home/varun/.compiz-1" also worked successfully.
[13:02] <nbubuntu> varunendra : how about a gedit file ?
[13:03] <varunendra> nbubuntu, simply type its name like the directories on the command line
[13:03] <nbubuntu> varunendra : I can view ls a text file but can't tar it . "Cannot stat: No such file or directory"
[13:04] <varunendra> nbubuntu, can you show us the exact command you are using? If the name contains blank spaces or special characters, it must be enclosed within double-quotes
[13:05] <|Frodo|> vel clientcrap,clientnotices,modes,joins,parts,quits
[13:05] <|Frodo|> sorry
[13:06] <varunendra> |Frodo|, "The Ring" misbehaving?? Time to surrender it to "The Lord of..." :p
[13:06] <RAM399> How do I install grub to /mnt/sda2 ?   I want to install a different bootloader to the mbr then chainload ubuntu on /dev/sda2
[13:07] <varunendra> RAM399, simply "grub-install /mnt/sda2" not working?
[13:08] <RAM399> varunendra:  nope, it says "ext doesn't support embedding. ..not possible.  blocklists are UNRELIABLE ...will not proceed with blocklists.
[13:08] <nbubuntu> varunendra : I will try again later .Thank for the help. It'll take me few hours to figure it out
[13:08] <varunendra> RAM399, I think it shold be /dev/sdb2 - while it is unmounted.
[13:08] <varunendra> nbubuntu, it takes a little tinkering, but everything you wish is possible :)
[13:10] <RAM399> varunendra:  can't unmount sda2 because that's the partition i booted ubuntu on (and using now).  I need to remove grub from mbr to the bootsector on /dev/sda2
[13:11] <kiran__> _[myth, hello
[13:11] <_[myth> hi
[13:11] <RAM399> I knew this grub2 was trouble. I never had this problem with grub-legacy which allows installing while the partition is in use by the os
[13:12] <varunendra> RAM399, you don't need to remove it, as the one you'd install later would automatically overwrite it. But to install grub on a partition, I'm not sure unmounting it is a prerequisite or not. Maybe try /dev/sda2 anyway (while it is mounted).
[13:15] <RAM399> Here's the story:   I installed ubuntu from DVD to /dev/sda2 then installed the grub2 bootloader to /dev/sda2 on purpose so I could install grub-legacy to mbr of sda then chainboot ubuntu on sda2.   When I did a "apt-get dist-upgrade" Ubuntu messed up everything and ubuntu refused to boot.  I want to restore grub2 back to sda2 so I can use grub-legacy on mbr of /dev/sda
[13:18] <RAM399> The problem with grub2 is it's too much integrated into the filesystem making it a massive headache to deal with.  At least grub-legacy keeps itself out of the filesystem and is independant of the OS so you can more easily install/repair it from live cds.
[13:18] <benxyzzy> Quick question: Does Ubuntu support writing to NTFS 'out of the box' yet? Is it at least stable and easy to install?
[13:19] <ioudas> does anyone know how to enable vcstime on ubuntu 14.04 desktop edition? I have it set to console mode /etc/kbd/config lists do_vcstime=yes yet it doesnt show at boot... also I the power saving modes in the console tools conf are not being applied?
[13:19] <ioudas> any help would be appreciated
[13:20] <varunendra> RAM399, if you originally installed Grub2 on the partition, it should still be there, just the MBR one being a new installation controlling the booting now. Have you tried installing Grub legacy again on the MBR the same was as earlier?
[13:21] <RAM399> varundendra..thanks, will try that next.
[13:24] <frakoster> so
[13:24] <varunendra> RAM399, there is a way to prevent updates to update grub2, just don't remember it. Probably something in /etc/grub.d/40_custom, but not sure.
[13:25] <RAM399> varunendra:  I'll make a seperate boot partition of 24mb to install grub-legacy to keep it absolutely out of ubuntu's way. Then chainload ubuntu on sda2.
[13:26] <varunendra> RAM399, good idea :)
[13:28] <RAM399> varendra:  I previously i had grub legacy co-existing inside /boot/grub on the Ubuntu filesystem & that's what caused the conflict during the dist-upgrade.
[13:30] <cool_boy> Hello guys, I am trying to kill a process, which seems to be a service to me, It gets restart again as soon as I kill it, could anyone help me how to stop it from being start?
[13:30] <eduardoshepard> join #mql
[13:30] <cfhowlett> cool_boy kill -9 process PID #
[13:32] <cool_boy> cfhowlett:  kill -9 process 17512 # giving me, "bash: kill: process: arguments must be process or job IDs"
[13:33] <theperfectpunk> is there a way to write ubuntu grub config manually?
[13:33] <theperfectpunk> i accidentally wiped the boot disk
[13:33] <cfhowlett> cool_boy ps -x to find your PID (Process ID) then kill -9 PIDumberHere
[13:33] <notmoose> hi guys, i can execute a php script in the terminal using: php script.php, now i want to execute the same script by just calling "script" without the php prefix, how would i do this?
[13:34] <cool_boy> cfhowlett: this way it starts again, I am asking for it don't be start untill I do it manually
[13:34] <cool_boy> cfhowlett: btw 17512 is process id in that command
[13:35] <dextronic> Hello people
[13:35] <dextronic> i have a problem with ubuntu
[13:35] <cfhowlett> cool_boy right.  obviously something is invoking it, but I don't know how to ID the launch process.  ask again in channel.  lots of clever people here.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !details | dextronic
[13:35] <dextronic> cant see the applets, or edit in system
[13:36] <cool_boy> cfhowlett: thanks, that is my problem , there is some service which restarts it whenever it gets killed :(
[13:36] <cool_boy> I am not able to find and stop service
[13:36] <dextronic> when i log in theres no network, clock, profile, battery or anything in the toolbar
[13:37] <cool_boy> how to see all running services in ubuntu?
[13:37] <RAM399> So i installed grub-legacy back to sda (hd0) and tried to chainload ubuntu on /dev/sda2, now it says:  BOOTMGR is missing
[13:37] <cfhowlett> cool_boy ps -x                IIRC
[13:38] <abanabee7> I have an issue, I am running on an SSD & for some reason the system shuts down randomly and says it has TRIMMED some stuff
[13:39] <cool_boy> cfhowlett: it gives me with process no , not name, I Cant use with  STOP with process no
[13:39] <cool_boy> and on kill it gets restart
[13:40] <cfhowlett> cool_boy well this is obviously over my head ... sorry
[13:43] <dextronic> i have a issue with ubuntu 14.04, i cant see the clock, network, battery, accounts, or anything in the toolbar. i have tried Killall gnome-panel, killall untily-panel-service what should i do?
[13:43] <RAM399> How to use the live DVD to replace grub2 back to /dev/sda2 ?
[13:43] <Unknown0BC> Hello
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !grub2|RAM399
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Unknown0BC greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[13:44] <Unknown0BC> My internet connection is fine but I get this when trying to do "sudo apt-get update":
[13:44] <Unknown0BC> Err http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/universe amd64 Packages
[13:44] <Unknown0BC>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[13:44] <theshadowx> hi
[13:44] <theshadowx> hi, I would lik to forward tcp to ttyS0 with socat, does anyone know how to do it
[13:44] <Unknown0BC> yet the rest seems to go trough fine.
[13:44] <Czechton> hey is this a good place to ask for help with errors during install?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !quantal | Unknown0BC
[13:45] <k1l> Unknown0BC: quantal is out of service really really long time
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Unknown0BC
[13:45] <k1l> Unknown0BC: you really should upgrade to a supported release as first step
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Czechton ask - more details = more assitance
[13:45] <cfhowlett> *assistance*
[13:46] <Unknown0BC> That would be great, if it wasnt going to take 400mb ?
[13:46] <Unknown0BC> on my cellphone.
[13:46] <Unknown0BC> :\
[13:46] <g105b> How do I set up a shell script to execute every time a directory's (recursive) contents changes?
[13:46] <Czechton> I'm trying to install ubuntu minimal on my acer c720, but I'm getting a fatal error when it tries to install grub
[13:46] <Unknown0BC> So what they make the old release stop working for installing packages ?
[13:46] <k1l> Unknown0BC: you can do a reinstall with a 14.04 iso
[13:46] <Unknown0BC> It still worked recently for some packages, but not all...
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Unknown0BC use torrent to get the 14.04 ISO and install
[13:46] <k1l> Unknown0BC: why do you want to run a that old release anyway? it has security issues a 10 year old can use
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Unknown0BC of course.  NO OS has lifetime support and the lifetime of each Ubuntu release is clearly stated.
[13:47] <k1l> Unknown0BC: to run 12.10 is not a solution so we dont need to discuss that. its only about how you get your system to a supported release
[13:47] <funtable> g105b, what will do your shell script ?
[13:47] <Unknown0BC> ok.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Unknown0BC suggest you go with 14.04 as it's supported for 5 years
[13:47] <Czechton> grub-install '/dev/sda' failed
[13:47] <Unknown0BC> thanks.
[13:48] <Czechton> is the error message i get
[13:48] <g105b> funtable: concatenate files into another directory.
[13:48] <dextronic> back