[12:00] <kerneld> use cupsys-bsd if you need lpr interface
[12:00] <[blah] > how do I update my locate db?
[12:00] <jjjjjjj> can i get the firefox wiki again?
[12:00] <kerneld> blah: Tak a look at the cron.daily
[12:00] <_jason> [blah] : sudo updatedb
[12:00] <jjjjjjj> going to get thunderbird upgraded
[12:01] <Nogimics> Anyone know how with wget I can point it to a web directory and it will grab everything within it?
[12:01] <Esben> How do i get http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=AAR-2400A to work in ubuntu? The card works fine in knoppix, but breezy badger gives a kernel panic.
[12:01] <[blah] > thanks _jason
[12:01] <Skaag> Can I take the dapper ISO and somehow put it on an external USB drive for booting?
[12:01] <rchaffer> the rights are all -rw-r--r--
[12:01] <taylor_> if i wanted to compress a ".map" file that is about 55MB what would be best to compress it to?
[12:01] <_jason> rchaffer: who's the owner
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> Skaag,  eww. :P not heard of that trick being done
[12:01] <kerneld> Nog: -r option.
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> brb
[12:02] <Skaag> Dr_Willis: I could create a partition on it, question is what type, and if just copying the files there will work
[12:02] <taylor_> its a halo 2 file from ym xbox
[12:02] <mqueiros> Nogimics: wget -m http://ftp.blablabla.com/pub/whatever/
[12:02] <taylor_> *my
[12:02] <rchaffer> ah they're all root. d'oh
[12:02] <Nogimics> -m or -r lol?
[12:02] <taylor_> nvm ill just try them all
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Skaag,  you are in 'no mans' land there. Lol.
[12:02] <Skaag> hehe
[12:02] <mqueiros> -m as in Mirror
[12:02] <odat> !tell vivaldini -?about mp3
[12:03] <rchaffer> thanks
[12:03] <Nogimics> thanks
[12:03] <soundray> Esben, which kernel are you trying this with?
[12:03] <Esben> 2.6.12
[12:03] <setuid> soundray: I've run Debian for 8+ years, Slackware, Ygdrassil, RH years before that. Trust me, I know what it takes to make things work. I'm also an upstream developer, and more than half the time when users report bugs in my software in distros, its because of braindead packager breakage. The solution is *ALWAYS* to use the unpatched, pristine source, which fixes all of the issues (in my case, which is the whole usb subsystem, udev, hotplug, etc
[12:03] <setuid> .)
[12:03] <[blah] > _jason, do you know anything about apache2?
[12:03] <Esben> 2.6.12-10
[12:03] <setuid> So I'm not exactly your typical "newb"
[12:03] <vivaldini> odat.....i-m not understand
[12:04] <_jason> [blah] : just ask
[12:04] <odat> !tell <vivaldini> -?about <mp3>
[12:04] <odat> sorry trying something
[12:04] <[blah] > I want to setup a virtualhost in apache2 on port 8080 but can't find how
[12:04] <bimberi> odat: #debian-bots
[12:04] <soundray> setuid, fine. In that case, I suspect you just want to sound off. There are other channels for that.
[12:05] <Ubeyguy> Hello
[12:06] <odat> vivaldini, open up synaptic and install gstreamer plugins
[12:06] <setuid> No, I don't need to sound off. I have other venues for that which are much more productive than here. Freenode has consistently gone rapidly downhill in terms of quality of support in project-dedicated channels. I've seen this as it went from the Linpeople -> OPN -> Freenode transition, losing quality and talent through each one.
[12:06] <BakaNiko> Bonsoir
[12:06] <Ubeyguy> Hello
[12:06] <Ubeyguy> Is this a good distro to run asterisk on?
[12:06] <setuid> I find problems, problems which a simple package removal/configure or install do not fix, and I address/report them. The first place I go, is the userbase, to see if others experienced it (and google, thus proving several hundred users with the same exact problem as mine)
[12:07] <adriyel> Ubeyguy, *shrugs* it works
[12:07] <adriyel> good is relative
[12:07] <setuid> Hence, this is not unique to me, my hardware, or my configuration.
[12:07] <adriyel> use a distro you like/enjoy and are comfortable with
[12:07] <adriyel> setuid, do you have a point?
[12:07] <Ubeyguy> adriyel: its been a while since i have use 'linux
[12:07] <adriyel> Ubeyguy, I recommend Ubuntu then, it's relatively easy
[12:07] <setuid> adriyel: Is English not your first language? Or should I rephrase my statements in a simpler way for you to understand?
[12:07] <soundray> setuid, meet me in #ubuntu-offtopic for that discussion.
[12:08] <Kronarq> I am trying to track down an issue... On an ubuntu machine with a fresh install when I have dhcp enabled everything works fine but when I switch to manual I can only access the internal network. I have tried pinging google <IP_ADDRESS> and that didnt work so it isn't just a dns issue. Any suggestions?
[12:08] <adriyel> Ubeyguy, although I am an intermediate user of Linux, I use it because it saves me hassle time
[12:08] <Dark_Oppressor> ive got a fresh install of ubuntu with an ati radeon x800 pro, and ive fully updated everything.  now my problem is that i havent got any 3d acceleration, any ideas of what i should do?
[12:08] <bimberi> !ato
[12:08] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bimberi
[12:08] <Seveas> Kronarq, did you set dns servers?
[12:08] <bimberi> !ati
[12:08] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:08] <adriyel> setuid, is English not your first language? I can interpret great works like Milton's "Paradise Lost", and correct an English Professors grammar
[12:08] <Ubeyguy> great
[12:08] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to uninstall amercias army?
[12:08] <adriyel> which I have done on occaision
[12:08] <Ubeyguy> hope you guys will be here to support me
[12:08] <Esben> soundray, any suggestions?
[12:08] <Kronarq> Seveas: yes
[12:09] <Ubeyguy> I am installing on my 2nd box as we speek
[12:09] <setuid> Its "Professor's" ;)
[12:09] <Ubeyguy> speak*
[12:09] <adriyel> setuid, so don't touch my linguistic abilities. Let's not forget English isn't the only language I am familiar with...baka.
[12:09] <farous> !tell Dark_Oppressor about ati
[12:09] <odat> phiber_optic, google it
[12:09] <adriyel> I know, the possessive apostrophe in the noun, I saw the error just as I was hitting the enter key
[12:09] <Dark_Oppressor> gracias
[12:09] <Kronarq> Any other ideas?
[12:09] <adriyel> Chat is a rapid interactive form of communication, you can get white-paper level of stringency in grammar/spelling some other time
[12:10] <frodrigu> Is it impossible to play .m4a files with amarok?
[12:10] <BakaNiko> I'm searching a french speaking ubuntu so, i make a mistake. Good Bye
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic, I believe you installed that from source, so you're best option there is probably make uninstall or an option of checkinstall, whichever you used in the first place.  If those aren't available, you might have to just delete directories, but that's never as clean.
[12:10] <adriyel> setuid, elsewise, if you are going to choose not to respond to my inquest, you can stop speaking to me and thereby not be wasting mine or yours time, thank you
[12:10] <bimberi> !fr
[12:10] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:10] <Seveas> !tell setuid about conduct
[12:10] <BakaNiko> Merci
[12:10] <frodrigu> When I try it tells me "some media could not be loaded" in amarok...is this impossible to fix?
[12:10] <odat> frodrigu, you'll prolly get a better answer in kubuntu
[12:11] <setuid> Seveas: Now now, you should know I know the ROC already. I'm not a troll. ;)
[12:11] <_6ix_> Social Commentary:  Milton's "Paradise Lost" a "great" work?  Teehee.
[12:11] <setuid> er, functionality
[12:11] <frodrigu> odat, how do i join kubuntu?
[12:11] <soundray> Esben, not really. You are using the most recent breezy kernel... Are you getting any further information with that crash?
[12:11] <phiber_optic> tonyyarusso, I used its own installation program
[12:11] <farous> frodrigu: /j #kubuntu
[12:11] <odat> frodrigu, type   /join #kubuntu
[12:11] <Verwilst> hellow!
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic, Oh.  But it doesn't come with an uninstall one too then?
[12:12] <Esben> some interupt addresses and stuff. Trying to install the 686 kernel to see if it makes a difference
[12:12] <Verwilst> i seem to be having a prob with dapper
[12:12] <Verwilst> when i try to login, i see nothing
[12:12] <Verwilst> except my wallpaper
[12:12] <phiber_optic> I dont know Ijust download a armyops250.run
[12:12] <_6ix_> Is there a list of terminal commands?
[12:12] <soundray> Esben, any chance to get your hands on a Dapper live CD?
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell _6ix_ about cli
[12:12] <_6ix_> Thank you
[12:12] <Verwilst> well first i get the login splash
[12:12] <odat> phiber_optic, i'm pretty sure you can find the info on google
[12:13] <soundray> Esben, that would tell you whether there's hope in waiting for dapper, or installing it pre-release.
[12:13] <Verwilst> when it's at nautilus, it show a message box saying "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit."
[12:13] <Nogimics> hmmm im trying to copy 1 dir using "wget -m http://www.url.com/images/"
[12:14] <Nogimics> but ti keeps copying the whole site
[12:14] <Nogimics> can anyone help pls?
[12:14] <Cullen> Test
[12:14] <snoozix> Cullen: works.
[12:14] <_jason> Cullen: failed
[12:14] <soundray> Nogimics, use -l 1
[12:14] <Verwilst> Nogimics, --no-parent
[12:14] <Verwilst> or that
[12:15] <Nogimics> So use wget -m --no-parent
[12:15] <soundray> Cullen, osterone
[12:16] <Esben> soundray, Can i opgrade to dapper via apt?
[12:16] <theD3viL> Esben: yes
[12:16] <theD3viL> Esben: !dapper
[12:16] <theD3viL> !dapper
[12:16] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[12:16] <dabaR> Esben: on 20th of april
[12:16] <theD3viL> eh .. change sources list
[12:16] <theD3viL> yes, thats better
[12:17] <soundray> Esben, you can, but expect a rough ride.
[12:17] <Esben> How rough?
[12:17] <dabaR> Esben: You never know...
[12:17] <tatters> how do I set a folder so it can be shared by anyone on my network  say for example /media/usbdisk/my music?
[12:17] <wastrel> i'm making broccoli
[12:17] <dabaR> sweet
[12:17] <Cullen> Installing Ubuntu, okay till just after keyboard question, then hangs while "Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives" at 83 percent while "Loading module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA Disk' .  Any ideas?
[12:17] <tatters> sudo chown?
[12:17] <dabaR> tatters: who is on your network?
[12:17] <tatters> family only
[12:18] <soundray> Esben, the main problem with upgrading is that there's no way back, unless you have a full backup (ideally partition images)
[12:18] <dabaR> Your family members have NIC cards installed?
[12:18] <dabaR> Into their bodies? or do you call your computers family?
[12:18] <Esben> soundray, that is not an issue. Just installed today
[12:18] <_6ix_> Hypothetically, if you have a .tar file with XMMS in it on your desktop, what command might you use to install it?
[12:18] <tatters> it local network so just want a public folder
[12:18] <dabaR> tatters: on the same computer?
[12:18] <_6ix_> sudo dpkg -i xmmsetcetc.tar?
[12:18] <tatters> no one wireless network
[12:19] <tatters> on wireless network^
[12:19] <dabaR> tatters: what conmputers, tatters ?
[12:19] <dabaR> windows? linux macs?
[12:19] <soundray> Esben, if starting over is not a big loss, I wouldn't hesitate too much.
[12:19] <tatters> xp and linux
[12:19] <dabaR> !samba
[12:19] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:19] <dabaR> read that.
[12:19] <N6pfk> Is this the right place to ask about ati drivers and 3d?
[12:19] <dabaR> !ati
[12:19] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:20] <tatters> no i want to own the folder as adsmin to start how do I do that?
[12:20] <N6pfk> Thanks
[12:20] <dabaR> as admsin?
[12:20] <Verwilst> little question
[12:20] <tatters> I have a usb disk I just reinstalled and the folder I created previously is owned by my old account
[12:20] <dabaR> adsmin?
[12:20] <Verwilst> oh
[12:20] <Verwilst> wait
[12:20] <Madpilot> tatters: with "chown" - look up "man chown" in a terminal
[12:21] <Esben> soundray, Whats the procedure? replacing breezy with dapper ?
[12:21] <frodrigu> does anyone know if it is impossible to play .m4a files in amarok (or any other player, for that matter)?
[12:21] <Esben> in sources.list
[12:22] <iceman> whats the file brouser for ubuntu .. nautlis  ?
[12:22] <Seveas> iceman, yes
[12:22] <soundray> Esben, it's similar to going from hoary to breezy, except that you substitute "dapper" in /etc/sources.list
[12:22] <soundray> !breezy
[12:22] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:22] <iceman> Seveas proper spelling ?
[12:22] <dabaR> nautilus
[12:22] <Madpilot> iceman: Nautilus
[12:22] <iceman> ty
[12:22] <dabaR> $20
[12:22] <snoozix> damn, i only get 128kbyte/sec with filling my mp3 player, why that?
[12:23] <soundray> Esben, that should read /etc/apt/sources.list (sry)
[12:23] <kbrosnan> ZephyrXero, Ubuntu/Debian make several changes to the browser that are not compatable with the Mozilla update system.
[12:23] <tatters> k thnx so chown 777 /media/usbdisk/albums should work?
[12:23] <soundray> snoozix, USB 1.1 mode?
[12:23] <dabaR> tatters: no, it should not.
[12:23] <tatters> oh
[12:23] <snoozix> soundray: should be even faster than 128kbyte/sec, right?
[12:23] <hanasaki> how do i mount a drive in an external enclosure that takes an ide drive and has a USB port to the computer?  special software?  does it show up just like a usb flash drive?
[12:24] <ramvi> Heya! =) Could someone please point me in the direction of how to set up keyboard shortcuts? I've installed launch box and want to assign a shortcut to it...
[12:24] <thomas__> Hey
[12:24] <dabaR> tatters: unless you want 777 to own it.
[12:24] <tatters> I just wanna get the padlock off the folder
[12:24] <snoozix> hanasaki: it should.
[12:24] <hanasaki> 777 chmod? thats not very secure
[12:24] <thomas__> Im installing Quake 4 demo What do i do if it says no write permission to /usr/local/games
[12:24] <colm> ramvi, system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[12:24] <odat> frodrigu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=3900632
[12:24] <ablomen> thomas__: install it as root
[12:24] <tatters> I have a usb disk I just reinstalled and the folder I created previously is owned by my old account
[12:24] <soundray> snoozix, maybe the flash memory in your player is slow.
[12:24] <hanasaki> snoozix found a reference that said someone needed a driver disk that came with it .. for windows.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817146057
[12:25] <tatters> so I just wanna get the padlock off the folder
[12:25] <thomas__> Roger that
[12:25] <Madpilot> thomas__: use "sudo" in front of whatever command you're installing it with
[12:25] <snoozix> soundray: it is not.
[12:25] <[blah] > how do I change my ip?
[12:25] <thomas__> no
[12:25] <thomas__> Madpilot
[12:25] <thomas__> It has an instlal menu
[12:25] <thomas__> install
[12:25] <thomas__> :\
[12:25] <thomas__> It says no access to root
[12:25] <farous> anyone have prblems with lyx here. and how can i know who is the maintainer of any package so i can contact him directly
[12:26] <Madpilot> !enter
[12:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:26] <Madpilot> thomas__: check on ubuntuforums.org, there are active gaming forums there
[12:26] <Ubeyguy> what is the default ubuntu root password?
[12:26] <ablomen> thomas__: try "sudo chmod 777 /usr/local/games"
[12:26] <Seveas> !root
[12:26] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:26] <soundray> snoozix, are you plugging into a hub?
[12:26] <Madpilot> Ubeyguy: there isn't one. Use sudo and your own user pw
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> farous, apt-cache show lyx.  Gives a listserv instead of a personal address.
[12:26] <gunslinger> hihi
[12:26] <Ubeyguy> thank you
[12:26] <tatters> ok for example I want to create a folder on my usb that I can access on any account on any machine I plug it in to how do I create this folder?
[12:26] <farous> ok thanx tonyyarusso
[12:27] <colm> ramvi, just re-read your question...   try this instead.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[12:27] <ramvi> colm, thanks
[12:27] <ablomen> thomas__: or whatever the dir was it didnt hade permisions for
[12:28] <soundray> !forums 79560
[12:28] <Esben> Its funny cos its true
[12:28] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 79560 is: General - HOWTO : Create a custom keyboard shortcut - Ubuntu Forums
[12:28] <jroes> hmm, anyone know where I can find lex and yacc?  are they in one of the make packages?
[12:29] <tatters> for example I want to create a folder on my usb drive that I can access using any account on any machine I plug it in,,,, to how do I create this folder?
[12:29] <Seveas> jroes, packages flex and bison
[12:29] <zebraFusion> what do I install to play avis
[12:29] <zebraFusion> ?
[12:29] <Madpilot> !tell zebraFusion about codecs
[12:29] <trustnon> tatters, try a stickie maybe
[12:29] <Madpilot> !tell zebraFusion about avi
[12:29] <moonunit> to anyone who wants to help, ive got a sound problem with games, the two ive tried are abuse, and ACM
[12:30] <jroes> thanks again Seveas
[12:30] <OmegaAlpha> what exactly does the command 'depmod' do? i had to enter it to finalize my driver setup with ndiswrapper
[12:30] <tatters> stickies dont answer back :P
[12:30] <[blah] > how do I restart my network interface?
[12:31] <tatters> mines wireless NIC I use ifconfig ra0 up
[12:31] <thomas__> Thanks
[12:31] <thomas__> it
[12:31] <thomas__> it's not installing, Hope it works
[12:31] <oga> I have got a USB laser printer and i dont' know how to detect it / enable it
[12:31] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, it sorts out dependencies between modules.
[12:31] <thomas__> woo hoo
[12:31] <thomas__> im starting
[12:31] <thomas__> Thanks everyone who helped
[12:31] <thomas__> :)
[12:31] <forumgdh> brasil alguem/
[12:32] <soundray> !br
[12:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:32] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, oh so the dep part is short for dependency
[12:32] <moonunit> _jason, got a bit?
[12:32] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, yes. Look at lsmod output: the "Used by" column indicates reverse dependencies for each module listed.
[12:34] <zebraFusion> !easysource
[12:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:34] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, i issued that command for ndiswrapper.. to setup my wifi card. in lsmod it shows a usbcore being used by ndiswrapper
[12:35] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, so what is the usbcore module?
[12:35] <RockyBurt> hm, does anyone know if its possible to subscribe to a remote (online) icalendar source that uses authentication ?
[12:35] <RockyBurt> using gnome evolution
[12:35] <tatters> ok so I sudo chmod 777 /media/usbdisk/global/artist\ a-z/  and the padlock dissapered
[12:35] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, it's the common core code dealing with everything to do with the Universal Serial Bus.
[12:36] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, ahh makes sense since the wifi adaptar is considered a usb
[12:36] <phiber_optic> I found a uninstall file how do I run it?
[12:36] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, thanks for the knowledge gain ;)
[12:37] <Madpilot> phiber_optic: uninstall for what?
[12:37] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, it's connected to USB (not considered as...)
[12:37] <tatters> what I dont understand is Y my wifi nic is ra0 insteasd of wlan
[12:37] <phiber_optic> for americas army
[12:37] <riddlebox> what is the frontend for samba mounts for kde?
[12:37] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, double clicking it doesnt work?
[12:37] <phiber_optic> nop
[12:38] <soundray> tatters, the name is determined by the driver fairly arbitrarily.
[12:38] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, is it an executable file?
[12:38] <moonunit> i have a sound problem with games, anyone?
[12:38] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, how do I check if it is executable?
[12:38] <zebraFusion> how can I install an avi decoder in dapper?
[12:38] <MrRio> moonunit: which game, and whats the problem?
[12:38] <tatters> oh u see all i had to was add my wpa setting to the network/interface file and my wireless was all up nu running
[12:38] <phiber_optic> when I double click it tells me it is a excecutable text file
[12:39] <Madpilot> zebraFusion: the same way you'd install it in Breezy?
[12:39] <ablomen> phiber_optic: check if the permissions are right (right click on the file, third tav)
[12:39] <ablomen> *tab
[12:39] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, look at the file itself.. does it have the .exe extension.. or check in properties to see what kind of file
[12:39] <roostishaw> can someone help me to get Candy Bar to work?
[12:39] <soundray> zebraFusion, AVI is just a container format. You need a codec that matches the content.
[12:39] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: .exe is windows ;)
[12:39] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, you said this was the uninstall file for a game
[12:39] <moonunit> MrRio, abuse and acm, i cant get sound.
[12:39] <phiber_optic> yess
[12:39] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, i know.. i was just checking to see if he was using a windows file.
[12:40] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, yes
[12:40] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: lol ok
[12:40] <Madpilot> phiber_optic: is it a .run file?
[12:40] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, i use wine to deal with any windows formats
[12:40] <MrRio> phiber_optic: right-click, properties, permissions, execute
[12:40] <ablomen> phiber_optic: did you check the permissions?
[12:40] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, its the windows version :)
[12:40] <roostishaw> how do i gte candybar to work? it says: "A sensor could not be found. This usually means that it has not been installed."
[12:40] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, i mean its the linux version
[12:41] <MrRio> phiber_optic, lol, good typo
[12:41] <phiber_optic> ablomen, permission is 755
[12:41] <ablomen> phiber_optic: ow damn, you have to run it as root
[12:41] <phiber_optic> so how do I run it as root?
[12:41] <eobanb> sudo.
[12:42] <eobanb> !sudo
[12:42] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:42] <ablomen> phiber_optic: do "sudo /usr/games/dirofgame/uninstallapp"
[12:42] <phiber_optic> sudo uninstall?
[12:42] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, oh then you better talk to ablomen he probably knows more than i
[12:42] <Madpilot> phiber_optic: try "sudo <name of uninstall script>"
[12:42] <Tedd> Hey.
[12:42] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, yes what madpilot said
[12:43] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: well its good for my ego but i just know the game :P
[12:43] <Tedd> Can somebody help me make scintilla?
[12:43] <Tedd> It tells me that gtk+-2.0 isn't found
[12:43] <Hoxzer> can I somehow set timer for commands?
[12:43] <zarephath> Hi everyone...is it possible to install minimal and then build packages off of the minimal install?
[12:43] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, haha anytime... what game is it? i need some good games to install..but i have indirect rendering :(
[12:43] <dabaR> Hoxzer: sleep 20; command
[12:43] <ablomen> zarephath: sure
[12:43] <Hoxzer> :)
[12:43] <Hoxzer> cool
[12:44] <zarephath> Hoxzer: Or you could cron whatever depending on your needs
[12:44] <Hoxzer> so 20 is seconds or what?
[12:44] <zarephath> ablomen: Is it an option on install or what?
[12:44] <dabaR> Hoxzer: go see
[12:44] <Tedd> Can someone help me install Scintilla? I try to do the make in the /gtk/ directory, but it tells me gtk+-2.0 was not found and that I should  add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[12:44] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: castle wolfenstein: enemy territory | amerikas army and openttd are worth trying
[12:45] <OmegaAlpha> oh that game is kickass. i had that on windows...
[12:45] <phiber_optic> I get could not find usable file. Aborting :(
[12:45] <ablomen> zarephath: you can use the "server" install when your in the install cds boot menu
[12:45] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: witch one?
[12:45] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, they have it for linux?? cant wait to install that
[12:45] <Tedd> Anybody?
[12:45] <zarephath> ablomen: Ok thanks
[12:45] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: lol wich one do you mean? there where 3 :P
[12:46] <magenie> !help
[12:46] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, i dont remember i just remember it was wolfenstein-enemy territory and you can be germans or the americans i believe
[12:46] <dabaR> Tedd: do you have an error?
[12:46] <Tedd> Yes
[12:46] <dabaR> the one above?
[12:46] <Tedd> Yes sir.
[12:46] <dabaR> !find gtk+
[12:46] <ubotu> libgtk+2.0-directfb-udeb-dev: (Development files for the GDK Backend based on DirectFB), section universe/libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.0.9-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1076 kB, Installed size: 3516 kB
[12:46] <Tedd> If you'd like me to pastebin the whole thing
[12:46] <phiber_optic> Madpilot, it said could not find usable uninstall program. Aborting
[12:46] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: yeah right, that one is realy easy to install too, takes about 3 seconds ;)
[12:46] <Tedd> oh
[12:46] <Tedd> um
[12:46] <Tedd> okay then
[12:46] <Tedd> I should install that?
[12:47] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, whats the best one to install?? im gonna get it now
[12:47] <dabaR> Try
[12:47] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, im wicked with the sniper rifle
[12:47] <magenie> !webcam
[12:47] <ubotu> [webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[12:47] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: that one is easy, and openttd (open transport tycoon deluxe) is in a .deb file
[12:48] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, will i be able to google it?
[12:48] <iceman> what is a good dvd player for ubuntu
[12:48] <ablomen> yeah, both of them
[12:48] <finnzi> damn Xgl totally owns ...
[12:48] <MrRio> iceman: totem-xine with libdvdcss
[12:48] <OmegaAlpha> iceman, i just stick with mplayer... but usually when i insert a dvd totem comes up to play it...
[12:48] <phiber_optic> ablomen, it said coudl not find usable uninstall program. Abourting
[12:48] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: but your going to need to make an account for downloading enemy territore, but that isnt too much trouble
[12:49] <RockyBurt> does anyone know if its possible (with gnome evolution on ubuntu) to subscribe to an icalendar calendar on the web that is protected using authentication ?
[12:49] <Tedd> dabaR: Now it just tells me there's a command that doesn't exist.
[12:49] <dabaR> Should I guess the command?
[12:49] <Tedd> Command g++.
[12:49] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, would that be an account for the steam platform?
[12:49] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, System-Preferences-Removable Drives-Multimedia
[12:49] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: thank god no
[12:49] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: just for the site
[12:50] <dabaR> Tedd: install build-essential
[12:50] <Madpilot> ablomen: you can get ET without signing up for anything
[12:50] <iceman> cant apt-get mplayer ?
[12:50] <Madpilot> ablomen & OmegaAlpha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[12:50] <dyrne> iceman: mplayer-586
[12:50] <MrRio> finnzi: yeah it does *grin*
[12:50] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, thank god. entering the "key' yikes
[12:50] <ablomen> Madpilot: yeah you can get torrents too but it doesnt mather, and its easy for mods etc ;)
[12:51] <phiber_optic> ablomen any ideas?
[12:51] <iceman> nope mplayer-586 not available
[12:51] <iceman> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:51] <iceman> is only available from another source
[12:51] <iceman> E: Package mplayer-586 has no installation candidate
[12:51] <dyrne> ubotu: tell iceman about sources
[12:51] <ablomen> phiber_optic: sorry wasnt paying to much atention can you repeat your problem?
[12:51] <Madpilot> !info mplayer-586
[12:51] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[12:51] <phiber_optic> ablomen, it said coudl not find usable uninstall program. Abourting
[12:52] <Tedd> dabaR, Thanks. I'm on my way to PHP.
[12:52] <Tedd> You're a lifesaver.
[12:52] <dabaR> Tedd: good luck
[12:52] <ablomen> hmm, i think youv got to check the aa site/faq/forum
[12:52] <Madpilot> ablomen: you play ET?
[12:52] <linuxN00B> anyone know what the steps are for getting amarok and amarok-xine for Breezy badger
[12:52] <primoturbo> Does anyone know the command to remove a program installed by wine?
[12:52] <ablomen> Madpilot: sure its a cool game
[12:52] <primoturbo> is there a uninstall command in wine?
[12:52] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, thanks buddy. now i can switch it to mplayer :)
[12:52] <biovore> linuxN00B: apt-get install amarok
[12:53] <Madpilot> ablomen: I'm ZogZogZog on ET, keep an eye out for me (I suck, except with a sniper rifle...) :P
[12:53] <dyrne> primoturbo: look under /home/usr/.wine/c_drive/Program Files/ for the uninstall.exe
[12:53] <biovore> linuxN00B: apt-get install libxine1c2
[12:53] <dabaR> Madpilot: is that ET any good?
[12:53] <magenie> is there any way to watch dvds no matter the region or encryion, on the fly, withou the need to rip the dvd ?
[12:53] <dabaR> Like in single user mode?
[12:53] <primoturbo> yeah I checked one doesn't exist
[12:53] <phiber_optic> ablomen that happened when I tried to run the file uninstall file
[12:53] <Madpilot> dabaR: there is no single-user, it's all online multi
[12:53] <ablomen> Madpilot: lol i will ;) im ablomen (how surprising :P)
[12:53] <OmegaAlpha> Madpilot, is that the latest wolfenstein in that link.. or is that the first one?
[12:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm.
[12:53] <dabaR> Madpilot: :(
[12:53] <primoturbo> is there a command to remove a program in this case starcraft
[12:53] <dyrne> ubotu: tell magenie about restricted
[12:53] <MrRio> magenie: yeah, use totem-xine with libdvdcss
[12:53] <linuxN00B> ok I ll try that thanks
[12:54] <primoturbo> or can I just remove the Starcraft directory?
[12:54] <wastrel> is there a program which will play dvd's and supports all the bells & whistles like the menu & stuff?
[12:54] <Madpilot> OmegaAlpha: latest ET, as far as I know
[12:54] <dabaR> I played prboom, but it only has 2 levels.
[12:54] <ablomen> phiber_optic: yeah i guessed that already, but that is a problem with that file
[12:54] <Madpilot> wastrel: Totem does that for most DVDs
[12:54] <MrRio> wastrel: again totem-xine with libdvdcss never fails me
[12:54] <primoturbo> Is there a list of free/Linux native games?
[12:54] <odat> magenie, xine ehhh i like mplayer
[12:54] <phiber_optic> what do you suggest me to do?
[12:54] <primoturbo> or a good site for Linux games?
[12:54] <ablomen> phiber_optic: and im not a amerikans army developer ;)
[12:54] <MrRio> or mplayer, its all down to personal choice
[12:55] <odat> phiber_optic, what style of games?
[12:55] <Madpilot> primoturbo: www.happypenguin.org/ or www.linuxgames.com/ are two
[12:55] <primoturbo> thanks
[12:55] <phiber_optic> odat im trying to uninstall americas army
[12:55] <magenie> thx
[12:55] <ablomen> phiber_optic: like i said, try there site
[12:55] <xiaowei> hello
[12:55] <phiber_optic> try there site?
[12:55] <xiaowei> Good morning
[12:56] <ablomen> phiber_optic: if they got an answer there
[12:57] <MrRio> lol
[12:57] <wastrel> kk
[12:57] <wang> so i just installed linux last night, and need some help getting started with it, installing drivers and stuff
[12:57] <magenie> what about genius webcams ? i installed easycam but it didn't work with my genius webcam..
[12:58] <wang> where'd be some good places to start reading up?
[12:58] <dyrne> wang: most stuff can be found be searching wiki.ubuntu.com but whats your questiion
[12:58] <_jason> wang: help.ubuntu.com for the starter guide wiki.ubuntu.com is good too
[12:58] <MrRio> wang: usually,. if your hardware is supported, its already working
[12:58] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 shoot thats for drapper .. in need a breezy sources list for mplayer
[12:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell iceman about mplayer
[12:59] <goodtimes> I recently installed ubuntu on my computer and when I rebooted I got a grub error 17, I read that I could fix that by switching off auto detect on my hard drive settings, I put the drive to LBA and then everything booted fine, the problem I have now is that windows doesnt like the setting and crashes all the time, what can I do to fix this?
[12:59] <wang> no, there's only 3 screen resolutions, and the entire right inch or so of the screen has no display
[12:59] <dabaR> !fixres
[12:59] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:59] <ablomen> wang: try using the buttons on your monitor ;)
[12:59] <linuxN00B> biovore: does it matter that I am gnome and not kde
[01:00] <moonunit> so this is rather embarrasing
[01:00] <wang> ablomen: it sucks, i don't think there's any button to stretch it
[01:00] <dabaR> wang: ^
[01:00] <jrr> it would seem that the nvidia-settings package in dapper conflicts with the nvidia-glx one
[01:00] <Madpilot> wang: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <MrRio> moonunit, penis stuck in the cdrom tray?
[01:00] <moonunit> the game blast, sounded fun at the time, but now ive got a bunch of stuff with holes in it, how my i go about fixing this?
[01:00] <dabaR> hahahahaha lol
[01:00] <dabaR> fool
[01:00] <ablomen> wang: ok thats a weird monitor... it should be there
[01:01] <adriyel> dabaR, is moonunit serious?
[01:01] <jimmygoon> My mouse pointer moves VERY slowly in Dapper Drake Flight4 (and yes I tried increasing the accleration in the Preferences) but nothing makes it go faster
[01:01] <jimmygoon> any ideas?
[01:01] <moonunit> dude, im totally serious
[01:01] <kerneld> whats the program to run the autoconfig of X?
[01:01] <dabaR> No idea what he is saying at all
[01:01] <kerneld> just installing the packages?
[01:01] <dabaR> !drxx
[01:01] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dabaR
[01:01] <fenris> hi
[01:01] <visik7> anyone has a nokia dku-5 cable ?
[01:01] <moonunit> im lauging my ass off, but im not kidding, if someone could help.
[01:01] <dabaR> !drxx
[01:02] <goodtimes> I recently installed ubuntu on my computer and when I rebooted I got a grub error 17, I read that I could fix that by switching off auto detect on my hard drive settings, I put the drive to LBA and then everything booted fine, the problem I have now is that windows doesnt like the setting and crashes all the time, what can I do to fix this?
[01:02] <jjjjjjj> hi. is anyone running or tested the nomachine client under ubuntu?
[01:02] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kerneld about drxx
[01:02] <wang> ablomen: yeah, i can change the h-position and v-position, move the whole screen, and i can also more the monitor menu, must be the most worthless option ever...
[01:02] <jimmygoon> My mouse pointer moves VERY slowly in Dapper Drake Flight4 (and yes I tried increasing the accleration in the Preferences) but nothing makes it go faster
 any ideas
[01:02] <jjjjjjj> i was reading up on freenx when i saw the nomachine link
[01:02] <moonunit> MrRio, help?
[01:02] <dabaR> moonunit: what did you do, I am not sure what you are asking.
[01:02] <ablomen> wang: lol :P
[01:03] <moonunit> dabar, sudo apt-get install blast.
[01:03] <wang> ablomen: yeah, it's a nice monitor, but that part sucks
[01:03] <dabaR> moonunit: haha.
[01:03] <fenris> im currently trying to syncronize my laptop with my mobile phone via multisync... i discovered the phone, but when i click "test connection" the phone asks me for a pin... which pin do i have to enter there? and where do i configure it on my notebook?
[01:03] <ablomen> wang: i think throwing it out the window works... i dont have any better idears, maybe someone else can help, sorry
[01:03] <dabaR> well, killall blast
[01:03] <dyrne> moonunit: try killall gnome-panel
[01:03] <MrRio> jjjjjjj: yeh i have, it works well
[01:03] <moonunit> k
[01:03] <dyrne> lol
[01:03] <eduardo> hola nesito ayuda para instalar amsn quien sabe??
[01:03] <dabaR> !es
[01:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <jjjjjjj> thx mrrio
[01:04] <alpha254> muy bien!
[01:04] <mhuynh> hi
[01:04] <wang> ablomen: ah, it's not a big deal...besides, throwing it out the window doesn't do much; one of my friends dropped a monitor off a roof and all it did was crack the case...the tube was still intact
[01:04] <moonunit> nope
[01:04] <jimmygoon> Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:04] <mhuynh> is this the channel to get help for ubuntu install?
[01:04] <MrRio> mhuynh: yup
[01:04] <mhuynh> I don't want to be rude
[01:04] <alpha254> ask
[01:05] <moonunit> dyrne, nothing,
[01:05] <ablomen> wang: well atleast it was a durable...
[01:05] <xapaho> hi folks
[01:05] <moonunit> this sucks
[01:05] <MrRio> moonunit: a game called blast?
[01:05] <dabaR> moonunit: I told you, killall blast
[01:05] <moonunit> dabar, nope
[01:05] <moonunit> its not running
[01:06] <moonunit> seriously, sudo apt-get install blast, try it yourself
[01:06] <roostishaw> ANYONE... how do i launch GTKWifi?
[01:06] <xapaho> anyone runs FireStarter fine here ? I'm having many troubles with it (and/or iptables)
[01:06] <dyrne> moonunit: theres always the old alt-ctrl-bkspace
[01:07] <roostishaw> xapaho, what kind of troubles?
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> Wow.
[01:07] <wang> ablomen: yeah, one of my friends took a running start at a monitor with a baseball bat and hit it as hard as he could...it hurt his hands more than it hurt the monitor
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> Current Ubuntu Dapper has 41.8MB of python packages and related libraries that aren't used by any actual applications, 114 packages in all
[01:07] <mhuynh> I want to install evolution data server 2.4.1 from gz file
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> including bicyclerepair (a python programmer's tool) and diveintopython (a book on python)
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> installed by ubuntu-desktop 0.98
[01:07] <ablomen> wang: lol i think that tells more about your friend than about that monitor :P (no offence btw ;))
[01:07] <alpha254> xapaho, in gui desktop or on a remote server?
[01:07] <mhuynh> I have run ./configure but the make command is giving problems
[01:08] <dabaR> moonunit: I am at work.
[01:08] <mhuynh> I am very new at this
[01:08] <moonunit> dabar, that got it
[01:08] <dabaR> how?
[01:08] <dabaR> See, I rule.
[01:08] <xapaho> gui desktop, I'll describe gradually the issues
[01:08] <xapaho> 1) nothing goes through the server until FireStarter is launched once
[01:08] <moonunit> ctrl-alt-BS killed it
[01:08] <roostishaw> Can someone please tell me how to launch GTKWifi?
[01:08] <dyrne> mhuynh: sudo apt-get install build-essential have you done that yet?
[01:08] <moonunit> now, off to synaptic so i dont do that again,
[01:08] <Madpilot> dabaR: he's right, the holes blast makes don't go away when the app is stopped...
[01:08] <mhuynh> yes I have
[01:08] <jimmygoon>  Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:09] <mhuynh> I am not sure of the switch to use
[01:09] <moonunit> madpilot, Ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:09] <CanYouHelpMePlz> si usted realmente sabe espaol, usted no me dir ir al es
[01:09] <mhuynh> make install does not work
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> i'm about to try nomachine.  they said try this command
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> dpkg-query -l 'libpng*'
[01:09] <dabaR> I would use ps aux and kill it.
[01:09] <Madpilot> moonunit: later, I'm in the middle of a couple of things right now :P
[01:09] <Arafangi1n> WHat's an easy to use vpn client?
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> i get two ii on the left side of terminal
[01:09] <dyrne> mhuynh: what application are you trying to install?
[01:09] <fr500> Arafangi1n: what kind of VPN
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> does this mean Installed?
[01:09] <moonunit> right
[01:09] <mhuynh> evolution
[01:09] <moonunit> now does anyone know a good game that i should get?
[01:10] <amphi> jjjjjjj: yes
[01:10] <moonunit> that would run fine on my p3
[01:10] <xapaho> 2) an error dialog pop up every time I launch the interface "can't execute". however it fixes it by itself within a second or two and goes "blue"
[01:10] <Arafangi1n> fr500: The kind of vpn you have at uni where they just use the standard vpn software on windows or mac.
[01:10] <jjjjjjj> thx amphi
[01:10] <dyrne> mhuynh: you wanted a different version that the one included?
[01:10] <mhuynh> I am trying to connect to groupwise server but it keeps crashing
[01:10] <ablomen> moonunit: castle wolfenstein: enemy territory
[01:10] <moonunit> that doesent blow holes in my programs
[01:10] <amphi> jjjjjjj: are you compiling something?
[01:10] <fr500> Arafangi1n: like the windows VPN wizard?
[01:10] <moonunit> castle wolfenstein...
[01:10] <mhuynh> So I am trying to update the data server
[01:10] <moonunit> is there a sudo apt get for that?
[01:10] <Arafangi1n> fr500: Yup.  The defacto standard, anyway.
[01:10] <fr500> Arafangi1n: that's pptp, you need pptpclient, google for it!
[01:10] <Arafangi1n> fr500: The macs use that?
[01:10] <ablomen> moonunit: no but its a installer that does everything for you ;)
[01:11] <fr500> Arafangi1n: never used one
[01:11] <fr500> Arafangi1n: XP does though
[01:11] <moonunit> ablomen, from where?
[01:11] <jimmygoon>  Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:11] <ablomen> moonunit: just google, itll be on top of the list
[01:11] <moonunit> ablomen, one that i could run on linux, not windoze
[01:11] <mhuynh> dryne : yes
[01:11] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: chat goes too fast here :) 1) nothing goes through the server until FireStarter is launched once. 2) an error dialog pop up every time I launch the interface "can't execute". however it fixes it by itself within a second or two and goes "blue"
[01:11] <Madpilot> moonunit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[01:11] <ablomen> moonunit: yes there is a linux version
[01:11] <moonunit> awesome
[01:11] <dyrne> ubotu: tell mhuynh about paste
[01:11] <iceman> cant access chapters  anyother dvd players for linux
[01:12] <alpha254> xapaho, you on 5.10 ubuntu?
[01:12] <roostishaw> xapaho, what kind of device are you using?
[01:12] <dyrne> mhuynh: can you paste the error to link ubotu gave you?
[01:12] <Madpilot> iceman: do you have the libdvdcss stuff installed?
[01:12] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about dvd
[01:12] <jimmygoon>  Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:13] <magenie> !dvd
[01:13] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:13] <mark_> ubuntu made me beautiful again
[01:13] <dyrne> jimmygoon: maybe something in xorg.conf?
[01:13] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: yes, ubuntu breezy, A7N8X-E deluxe with builtin 100mb and 1Gb -- 3) the gui sometimes hangs while editing existing rules, randomly. I also had two rules which I could no more edit, I had to delete those and recreate them
[01:13] <dabaR> jimmygoon: yes, cause it is not April
[01:14] <jimmygoon> dabaR - lol what does that mena?
[01:14] <jimmygoon> :O lol
[01:14] <dabaR> It means 6.04 is 2006 april.
[01:14] <jimmygoon> i know ;)
[01:14] <jimmygoon> lol
[01:14] <jimmygoon> I will look around ... hmm
[01:14] <elijah> hello
[01:14] <jimmygoon> no... sorry I'm running Dapper Drake Flight 4 or w/e it is
[01:15] <jimmygoon> the one that came out like today
[01:15] <dabaR> ya
[01:15] <dabaR> really
[01:15] <dabaR> how is that
[01:15] <jjjjjjj> should i download .deb or .gz for nomachine?
[01:15] <jimmygoon> ?
[01:15] <dabaR> you think that is cool?
[01:15] <jimmygoon> lol
[01:15] <jimmygoon> yes
[01:15] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: What is the .deb for?
[01:15] <jjjjjjj> nomachine client
[01:15] <thomas__> .debian
[01:16] <Madpilot> jjjjjjj: if it's not in the Ubuntu repos, get the deb
[01:16] <thomas__> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:16] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: Debian, Ubuntu, or any other wacko distro?
[01:16] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: 4) some events are dispayed "blocked" while they are connections coming from my private network (eg dhcp packets !?). This is also "random" eg. hopefuly my dhcpd answers correctly
[01:16] <jjjjjjj> ?
[01:16] <jjjjjjj> nomachine as in nomachine.com
[01:16] <bimberi> jjjjjjj: is this FreeNX?
[01:16] <moonunit> hey madpilot, any way i can change the download-to directory?
[01:16] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: Dude, what OS do you run?
[01:16] <jjjjjjj> ubuntu
[01:17] <jjjjjjj> edubuntu sorry
[01:17] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: do all that together make any sense to u guys, or are they distinct issues ?
[01:17] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: If it's windows, download the windows client, if it's Debian, download the debian client, if it's ubuntu, then DOWNLOAD THE UBUNTU client, savvy?
[01:17] <jjjjjjj> savvy.
[01:17] <Madpilot> moonunit: for which app? Firefox keeps that in it's configs somewhere
[01:17] <jjjjjjj> just that i had both on my desktop
[01:17] <ablomen> dyrne: bored? ;)
[01:18] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: If they do not offer an ubuntu client, though, then I generally download the .tar.gz
[01:18] <dyrne> ablomen: working at a helpdesk for 8 hrs and taken two calls so yes :)
[01:18] <ablomen> dyrne: lol
[01:19] <moonunit> madpilot, take the link you sent me, in it it says 'use wget -c http://ftp.games.skynet.be/pub/wolfenstein/et-linux-2.60.x86.run'   any idea how i could change where it saves this?
[01:19] <RickX> anyone know if I run WindowMaker as my wm with a LiveCD is I have settigs saved to a USB key drive?
[01:19] <KevinMitnick> FRee Kevin
[01:19] <KevinMitnick> Kevin Free
[01:19] <ablomen> moonunit: yeah just change the dir your in
[01:19] <elkbuntu> KevinMitnick, how about you either ask a question or move on?
[01:20] <moonunit> orly?
[01:20] <dabaR> RickX: are you asking whether you can save session from live CD to a usb key?
[01:20] <moonunit> how do i switch drives?
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> is today the 19th?
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> Thats my question
[01:20] <amphi> KevinMitnick: date(1)
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> date
[01:20] <ablomen> KevinMitnick: nope the 20th ;)
[01:20] <Madpilot> moonunit: it'll download it to whatever directory you're in when you give the wget command
[01:20] <annex> Howdy!  I'm currently (still) running Hoary.  Now that I finally have a few minutes to spare I was thinking of upgrading to Breezy.  How should I go about this to avoid problems?  Any suggestions?
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> okay
[01:20] <elkbuntu> depends where in the world you are
[01:21] <RickX> dabaR, no. Can I use WindowMaker as my wm when running from a LiveCD?
[01:21] <dabaR> RickX: sure, install it if it is in the repo.
[01:21] <jjjjjjj> can i say the f word here?  cuz i got  libstdc++5 and ++b but nomachine comes back with  nxclient depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however:
[01:21] <jjjjjjj>   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[01:21] <KevinMitnick> Elk
[01:21] <KevinMitnick> ...
[01:21] <moonunit> madpilot, how do i view another drive in terminal?
[01:21] <iceman> anyone got a good sources.list with the extra sources ...
[01:22] <elkbuntu> what?
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: You would have to configure your startup scripts to mount your drive BEFORE the wm starts, and configure symbolic links such that the sessions point to your key.  For example, ~/.gnome (and many others) would have to be a symbolic link to /mnt/usb/session/gnome
[01:22] <jjjjjjj> ++6 i meant
[01:22] <bimberi> ubotu tell jjjjjjj about freenx
[01:22] <RickX> dabaR, where does it install if I am using a LiveCD?
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: It would be alot of work.
[01:22] <ablomen> moonunit: depends on where its mounted ;)
[01:22] <LjL> jjjjjjj: was that a debian package that you tried to install?
[01:22] <Madpilot> moonunit: it needs to be mounted
[01:22] <iceman> i need a sources.list with SeveasPackages in it
[01:22] <dabaR> RickX: into the ether.
[01:22] <Madpilot> !mount
[01:22] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:22] <elkbuntu> o.O
[01:22] <moonunit> ive got them it mounted
[01:22] <moonunit> thats not the problem
[01:22] <dabaR> RickX: RAM, somewhere, I don't know.
[01:22] <jjjjjjj> nxclient_1.5.0-141_i386.deb
[01:22] <Madpilot> anyway, I need to go - real world needs attention
[01:22] <jrr> okay who else has tried out xgl?  i need the expose key!
[01:22] <moonunit> i need to navigate to them via terminal
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: Alternatively, you could copy from the key at start, in your init scripts, then copy them back at the end, using some sort of cleanup script.
[01:22] <iceman> !codec
[01:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: Have you got it mounted manually, or automounted?
[01:23] <btdown> hey Ubotu, is there a list somewhere of all the ! help topics?
[01:23] <LjL> jjjjjjj: i don't have that in my repos, so i suppose it could indeed be a debian package
[01:23] <iceman> !codecs
[01:23] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:23] <LjL> jjjjjjj: debian packages aren't necessarily compatible with ubuntu
[01:23] <dabaR> !helloWorlds
[01:23] <ubotu> dabaR: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:23] <dabaR> btdown: ^
[01:23] <btdown> Thanks.
[01:23] <jjjjjjj> i was reading up on freenx and saw the nomachine link
[01:23] <RickX> Arafangi1n, I don't have anything yet. I am DLing install CDs.
[01:24] <dyrne> jjjjjjj: best to goto wiki.ubuntu.com and follow instructions there
[01:24] <iceman> madpilot got a sources list with SeveasPackages available
[01:24] <btdown> !worksforme
[01:24] <ubotu> "Works For Me" is not actually useful advice in any way.
[01:24] <Arafangi1n> RickX: It would require manual editing of all your /etc/gdm scripts, as a minimum.
[01:24] <moonunit> madpilot, i need to navigate to them via terminal, there already mounted
[01:24] <btdown> lol..
[01:24] <jjjjjjj> dyrne:  for freenx ?
[01:25] <dyrne> jjjjjjj: yes search for freenx walks through installing server and client
[01:25] <bimberi> jjjjjjj: did you get the /msg from ubotu?  anyway it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:25] <RickX> OK, thanks.
[01:25] <LjL> jjjjjjj: are you absolutely sure you have the package it complains about installed?
[01:25] <iceman> !wine
[01:25] <jjjjjjj> pretty sure...
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> how do you find out the amount of memory used by a video card? i need to know it to setup easy ubuntu
[01:26] <jjjjjjj> ii  libstdc++5     3.3.6-8ubuntu1 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[01:26] <jjjjjjj> ii  libstdc++6     4.0.1-4ubuntu9 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[01:26] <LjL> jjjjjjj: but that's not the package it complained about, unless i misunderstood you
[01:26] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: well lspci -v will give model details and such
[01:26] <LjL> jjjjjjj: wasn't it complaining about libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?
[01:27] <romeo> hello
[01:27] <jjjjjjj>  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[01:27] <jjjjjjj>   You mean i have to install an earlier version?
[01:27] <Hostile> has anyone here gotten the fglrx drivers working in dapper?
[01:27] <LjL> jjjjjjj: that's not an earlier version, it's just a different package
[01:27] <moonunit> madpilot, you there, i could really use a hand with this.
[01:27] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne, ''Memory at f4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[01:28] <jjjjjjj> ahhhhhh  thanks dude
[01:28] <LjL> jjjjjjj: otherwise you wouldn't even have the *choice* of installing it from the current breezy repos
[01:28] <romeo> does anyone know with what app i should use to install limewire?
[01:28] <LjL> jjjjjjj: just "sudo aptitude install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"
[01:28] <LjL> !tell romeo about limewire
[01:28] <jjjjjjj> I'm going back to windows... my fingers are sore from typing all weekend. :~
[01:28] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: see if it show a prefetchable
[01:28] <jjjjjjj> NOT
[01:28] <cradek> hi all, can someone help me with my CD burner
[01:29] <cradek> when I click Write to Disc, it asks me to insert a blank disc, and when I hit OK, it just asks again forever
[01:29] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne,  Memory at f6000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
[01:29] <d510> hi gang - trying out ubuntu on a g4 500mhz and not really liking how slow it is. Is there anyway to speed it up? Maybe a guide or something?
[01:29] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: thats what you want i believe
[01:29] <iceman> jjjjjjjj good, winblows my have a lot going for it in it's own way, but it lacks and ties you down...
[01:29] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne, you wouldnt happen to know what 32M is in Kb do you?
[01:29] <primoturbo> Is there anyway to remove the ^ from custom menu bar?
[01:30] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: 32768
[01:30] <madSERBIAN> hi can anyone help mi abou ubuntu cd shiping
[01:30] <madSERBIAN> about
[01:30] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: hangon..
[01:30] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: should be
[01:30] <LjL> dyrne, OmegaAlpha: yeah, it is, if you adopt the "binary" convention
[01:30] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne, k... cause im configuring xserver-xorg and its asking me it
[01:31] <cradek> does CD burning work for anyone?
[01:31] <cradek> I know my hardware is good...
[01:31] <ablomen> cradek: jup works for me
[01:31] <madSERBIAN> hi can anyone help mi abou ubuntu cd shiping
[01:31] <jjjjjjj> woo hoo!  thx everyone
[01:31] <alpha254> works
[01:31] <asimismo> Anybody here do LVM over software raid?
[01:31] <asimismo> ...on Breezy?
[01:31] <Op3r> hello
[01:31] <fr500> cradek: gnomebaker flawless here
[01:32] <bimberi> madSERBIAN: just ask, if someone knows they'll answer
[01:32] <navarone> cradek, no complaints
[01:32] <cradek> fr500: is that what you get when you click Write to Disc in gnome (nautilus?)
[01:32] <Op3r> I just got promoted to be a network admin and I told my boss to use ubuntu on our call center but theres a but
[01:32] <dyrne> cradek: try k3b
[01:32] <fr500> cradek: no, it's another program
[01:32] <asimismo> Dang. Gotta run... Be back later!
[01:32] <cradek> fr500: does nautilus not work for you?
[01:32] <Op3r> anyone here can help me customizing the ubuntu setup for a call center business?
[01:33] <navarone> cradek maybe serpentine from nautilus
[01:33] <jjjjjjj> iceman: my parting with windows has everything to do with vista.  I feel it will only widen the gap between the haves and have nots.
[01:33] <romeo> is limewire instalable on ubuntu?
[01:33] <LjL> romeo: ubotu sent you some private messages
[01:33] <ablomen> cradek: it works but k3b is better
[01:33] <Op3r> romeo: try emule for linux?
[01:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell romeo about limewire
[01:33] <madSERBIAN> i need to know how long does it take to (send) come, i am from Europe, Yugoslavia-Serbia
[01:33] <wvelez> is there a way to create divx5 movies...i can create xdiv but my dvd player only supports divx...thanks
[01:33] <madSERBIAN> aproximatly
[01:33] <wvelez> ubuntu 5.10
[01:33] <romeo> yes i tried that but i have trouble connecting
[01:33] <romeo> with emule
[01:33] <cradek> so nobody uses the default gnome way to burn a cd?
[01:34] <fr500> cradek: never tried
[01:34] <LjL> Op3r: don't think i can help you, but out of curiosity, what's required of a computer running in a call center?
[01:34] <odat> wvelez, use the ubuntu forums
[01:34] <iceman> jjjjjjj got to agree, i have migrated slowly to linux more and more... now in a 64 bit box, got to go linux  ...
[01:34] <ablomen> romeo: you can use "alien" to install the limewire.rpm package on their site
[01:34] <navarone> cradek I do...insert cd-r and follow prompts...?
[01:34] <wvelez> odat: thank you
[01:34] <Op3r> LjL: can I private message you?
[01:34] <dyrne> romeo: did you setup port forwarding?
[01:34] <LjL> Op3r: sure
[01:34] <romeo> yes
[01:34] <cradek> navarone: yeah, I hit OK on that window, and it just comes back right away
[01:34] <iceman> anyone have a sources list for wine ...
[01:35] <navarone> cradek what comes back?
[01:35] <LjL> !tell iceman about wine
[01:35] <jjjjjjj> well i've installed suse/novell/ubuntu/edubunto about 20 times this weekend for learning.
[01:35] <tarek> I'm a complete newbie.. can you give me step-by-step instructions on installing skype. I tried installing the debian package available on skype's website and was told it needed libraries which I can't find. Thank You.
[01:35] <odat> iceman, go to winehq.com
[01:35] <ablomen> iceman: its on the wine website
[01:35] <romeo> i know limewire requires java
[01:35] <cradek> navarone: the same window that says "Insert a rewritable or blank disc"
[01:35] <cafuego> tarek: Uninstall skype's package and go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl instead.
[01:35] <dyrne> romeo: if router has option for dmz server you might try putting ip of your ubuntu box
[01:35] <jjjjjjj> and testing
[01:35] <navarone> jjjjjjj, you need help...;)
[01:35] <odat> romeo, use gtk-gnutella
[01:35] <bimberi> madSERBIAN: the shipit site says 4-6 weeks
[01:35] <cradek> navarone: "Please put a CD-R/CD-RW, with at least 439 MiB free, into the drive [Cancel]  [OK] "
[01:36] <navarone> cradek, and you have disk inserted?
[01:36] <madSERBIAN> thank you
[01:36] <tarek> how do I uninstall the skype package
[01:36] <cradek> navarone: yes
[01:36] <romeo> ok i ll try that
[01:36] <Op3r> anyone tried customizing ubuntu install that only hace gnome with firefox and xlite enabled?
[01:36] <cradek> navarone: in fact inserting it popped up this CD creator window
[01:36] <ablomen> cradek: just use k3b, that just works
[01:36] <bimberi> madSERBIAN: yw :)
[01:36] <navarone> cradek what kinda writer do you have?
[01:36] <odat> romeo, you need the one from the website the one is the repos is too old
[01:36] <romeo> but the way i have another puter with windows and i m never on it hardly
[01:36] <cradek> navarone: HP IDE 8x
[01:36] <romeo> i love linux
[01:36] <dyrne> romeo: but for limewire just sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 and then download from lime website
[01:37] <cradek> ablomen: I don't have any KDE installed.
[01:37] <IdleOne> cradek:  doesnt matter
[01:37] <ablomen> cradek: ik installs all you need for you
[01:37] <navarone> cradek I have had no probs...in fact I was impressed in how seamless it all goes...just put in cd and away you go...
[01:37] <odat> cradek, all right man :)
[01:37] <cradek> chris@buster2:~$ sudo cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
[01:37] <cradek> Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100
[01:37] <fr500> cradek: try gnomebaker it's good
[01:37] <ablomen> cradek: *it
[01:37] <romeo> ok
[01:37] <romeo> i ll be back later
[01:38] <jjjjjjj> darnit thunderbirds not starting and my user/pass for the nomachine demo is in there
[01:38] <navarone> gnomefreak, I made xfce my default manager. I was impressed how fast opera loaded on it...lol
[01:38] <cradek> trying gnomebaker...
[01:38] <gnomefreak> navarone: everything is faster in xfce
[01:39] <odat> cradek, you'll like it
[01:39] <gnomefreak> i cant wait to get mine back :(
[01:39] <beena> ubotu thunderbird
[01:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[01:39] <adminlaw_> hello
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hi
[01:39] <IdleOne> hey
[01:39] <gnomefreak> navarone: you running breezy?
[01:39] <adminlaw_> just loaded unbunt
[01:40] <navarone> gnomefreak, yes breezy...and xfce defaults to higher resolution too
[01:40] <gnomefreak> adminlaw_: anything we can help you with tonight?
[01:40] <annex> I'm finally upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, should I use the 'Smart Update' feature, or the regular update?  or another method?
[01:40] <adminlaw_> well first i need to convert to kde
[01:40] <gnomefreak> annex: you need to use dist-upgrade
[01:40] <gnomefreak> adminlaw_: convert? you can have both on ubuntu
[01:40] <IdleOne> adminlaw_:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <adminlaw_> thanks
[01:40] <odat> annex,  i would use the terminal
[01:41] <odat> adminlaw_, ewww
[01:41] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:41] <navarone> gnomefreak, I notice xfce menus are crammed with extra entries as well...interesting how much is left out of gnome menus...lol
[01:41] <gnomefreak> annex: after changing your sources.list to breezy run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and relax it will be a while
[01:41] <IdleOne> not to mention xfce is nicer looking
[01:41] <adminlaw_> i meant to copy your text
[01:41] <adminlaw_> lol
[01:42] <adminlaw_> thanks
[01:42] <gnomefreak> navarone: if you grab the debian menu for gnome everything is in there all text based apps and everything :)
[01:42] <odat> IdleOne, there is a room called xubuntu
[01:42] <navarone> IdleOne, I like the theme I had going in gnome but I have same basic one in xfce...except icons are a bit different
[01:42] <gnomefreak> odat: you found it what may we help you with :)
[01:42] <adminlaw_> I usually run mandrake
[01:42] <odat> gnomefreak, ?
[01:42] <IdleOne> odat:  Ill keep that in mind
[01:42] <adminlaw_> but this is looking cool
[01:42] <annex> gnomefreak: cool, basically the instruction for apt-get on here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:42] <navarone> gnomefreak, yeah I have that in xfce and gnome menu
[01:42] <gnomefreak> odat: this is the xfce room for ubuntu
[01:43] <gnomefreak> annex: yep that would be it
[01:43] <odat> gnomefreak, uhm ok
[01:43] <navarone> adminlaw_, I used 8.1 -10.0 Mandrake and ubuntu and debian package system beats it hands down
[01:43] <annex> gnomefreak: I already have a breezy CD from a friend.  What is needed so it'll use that when possible to save time/bandwidth?
[01:43] <IdleOne> navarone:  ever try getting help in #mandriva
[01:44] <IdleOne> it's impossible
[01:44] <gnomefreak> annex: you can do a clean install with disk
[01:44] <gnomefreak> im not so sure how update would go about it with cd
[01:44] <robbie_> I did apt-get install kdebase but I got this.. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:44] <robbie_>   kdebase: Depends: kappfinder (>= 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6) but it is not going to be installed
[01:44] <navarone> IdleOne, while using Mandrake(s) I was on 56k and almost never able to get modem configured
[01:44] <robbie_> along with about 15 other dependancies
[01:44] <annex> gnomefreak: I'd prefer not to do a clean install unless I need to.  I just mean have it use the packages off the CD
[01:44] <mustard5> gnomefreak, the instructions for doing it via a CD are on the wiki guide
[01:44] <gnomefreak> robbie_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <robbie_> shouldnt apt go and install the dependancies?
[01:45] <jjjjjjj> i'm only able to start thunderbird from a terminal
[01:45] <gnomefreak> robbie_: are you on breezy?
[01:45] <navarone> IdleOne, I think my disdain for kde megan then too...kppp was the bane of my existance...lol
[01:45] <robbie_> it said E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:45] <odat> robbie_, i'm soooooo ehhh nm
[01:45] <IdleOne> navarone:  Ive tried mandrake a few times over the past 5 years and could never get it to do anything I wanted or get any help from users
[01:45] <iceman> anyone able to help me get wine up, Diablo II " in ubuntu"
[01:45] <alison> helo?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> robbie_: the other day someone had same issue his sources.list was mixed
[01:45] <robbie_> yeah im on breezy
[01:46] <gnomefreak> robbie_: paste your sources.list on pastebin please
[01:47] <navarone> IdleOne, on mandrake 10 I had just gotten ethernet card working and tried urpmi update and hosed the whole thing...<s> Windows install too
[01:47] <robbie_> http://pastebin.com/563636
[01:47] <gnomefreak> has anyone heard when xfce will be finished being upgraded?
[01:47] <mustard5> annex, the wiki guide for upgrading to breezy shows the several options for upgrading..one of those is 'via CD'
[01:47] <navarone> gnomefreak, is xfce for dapper gonna use xgl?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> robbie_: put a # infront of the cdrom repo and take the # away from the rest that start with deb
[01:48] <IdleOne> navarone:  never had problems with getting ethernet working . always worked out of the box but I couldnt get any user help and that is the main reason I like ubuntu so much because ppl in here are just great ()
[01:48] <gnomefreak> navarone: not sure there is no xfce for dapper right now :(
[01:48] <navarone> IdleOne, agreed
[01:48] <odat> xfce is really cool but will be great when they get desktop icons
[01:48] <che> i have a quick newbie question... i have downloaded ubuntu 5.1 and i'm wanting to dual-boot xp and ubuntu on my notebook.  if i pop in my cd and run the install will it configure the dual boot on its own?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> odat: there is an icon package for it
[01:48] <IdleOne> !dualboot
[01:48] <ubotu> methinks dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:48] <annex> mustard5: okay, people seemed to think going via console was safer... I was hoping for the least number of problems after.  It does look like it suggests that as being equal as a method though
[01:48] <navarone> odat...i have icons for mounted volumes in xfce...
[01:49] <tritium> che: you will be given that option, yes
[01:49] <cradek> che: yes, it will give you the option of setting up dual boot.
[01:49] <odat> gnomefreak, i'm not talking about rox pinboard or idesk
[01:49] <Nogimics> Can anyone tell me why when I use putty to connect to my 1 shell filetypes are distinguished by colour codes but not on my ubuntu box when i ssh in with putty?
[01:49] <odat> gnomefreak, i mean built in
[01:49] <xhie> hey, does anyone know how to rotate the screen? to portrait mode I mean. I need it to boot up rotated.
[01:49] <bimberi> che: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:49] <che> thanks everyone.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> odat: in the repos there is an icon set for xfce as well as fluxbox and blackbox
[01:49] <navarone> xhie that was officially the strangest request...congrats...;)
[01:49] <mustard5> annex, its a valid method of doing it.  I would just read the instructions with care and you shouldn't have any issues
[01:50] <gnomefreak> i had it before they ripped xfce out from under me
[01:50] <xhie> hehe its a tablet, everything else is working great, just need it to rotate now
[01:50] <odat> gnomefreak, icons on your desktop?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> robbie_: let me know when your done changing it
[01:50] <gnomefreak> odat: yes had
[01:50] <robbie_> I did it
[01:50] <gnomefreak> all fixed?
[01:51] <annex> mustard5: thanks.  the only thing it leaves ambigious is that it asks if I want to do a regular or 'smart' update.  Any suggestions?  The 'smart' way seems to want to upgrade more packages
[01:51] <cradek> xhie: depending on the video driver, you may be able to rotate X, but you will probably not be able to rotate the text console.
[01:51] <robbie_> no apt-get install kubuntu-desktop still gives me E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <gnomefreak> odat: im missing very important package for xfce right now
[01:51] <gnomefreak> robbie_: sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <tritium> robbie_: have you updated your package listing?
[01:51] <mustard5> annex, I'll just have a look over the wiki guide...
[01:51] <IdleOne> navarone:  only problem I had with ubuntu is getting java to work and that was when i was still detoxing from windows ( first couple of days were tough )
[01:52] <IdleOne> heh
[01:52] <odat> gnomefreak, well you must not understand what i mean cuz i did a search and couldn't find it
[01:52] <robbie_> root@ubuntu:/home/robbie# apt-get update
[01:52] <robbie_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <robbie_> root@ubuntu:/home/robbie# apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <robbie_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <robbie_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:52] <robbie_> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: you do know there are debs for java right?
[01:52] <navarone> IdleOne, I don't sweat that small stuff...;)
[01:52] <moonunit> how do i go about making a swap partition?
[01:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  got it to work after some crying and moaning and reading the wiki properly
[01:52] <gnomefreak> robbie_: did you take the # away from all the lines that started with deb?
[01:52] <robbie_> yeah that leaves no uncommented deb lines
[01:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  was to used to just click next syndrom
[01:53] <amphi> moonunit: do you have a partition for swap?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> robbie_: kubuntu-desktop is in the main repo
[01:53] <Op3r> any net admin here?
[01:53] <moonunit> amphi, no i dont, thats why i asked
[01:53] <robbie_> I just did a find-next search for dep to make sure I did
[01:53] <robbie_> *deb
[01:53] <navarone> IdleOne, Linux mascot is a penguin...windows should be a sheep...<s> <baaa> <s>
[01:53] <gnomefreak> !info kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  I followed the first method in the wiki
[01:53] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[01:53] <mustard5> annex, the only thing I can think is that the 'smart upgrade' is looking to update stuff from the internet...not really sure
[01:53] <amphi> moonunit: you need to make a partition, and then do sudo mkswap /dev/whatever_it_is
[01:53] <IdleOne> navarone:  lol thats not a bad idea. send bill an email
[01:53] <gnomefreak> robbie_: open synaptic and do a search in there for kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <mustard5> annex, a number of packages have been upgraded since the CD was first released
[01:54] <robbie_> theres no repos in sources.list that dont start with deb so uncommenting them all basically gives me a blank sources.list
[01:54] <amphi> moonunit: you activate it by sudo swapon /dev/whatever
[01:54] <robbie_> commenting them all I mean
[01:54] <gnomefreak> robbie_: i didnt want you taking the # away from the comments
[01:54] <annex> mustard5: cool I think I'll just give the 'smart' one a shot
[01:54] <moonunit> amphi, i have 3 drives in this computer, the small one has my ubuntu install on it, one is just storage, and the last one is my windoze install
[01:54] <amphi> moonunit: it can be activated automatically at boot by adding the appropriate entry to /etc/fstab - man 5 fstab has the details
[01:54] <mustard5> annex, k :)
[01:54] <robbie_> no no I mean every line that has something on it now has a # after I put a # in front of all the lines starting with deb
[01:54] <moonunit> i want to do the swap on the neutral drive
[01:54] <annex> mustard5: thanks for the hand holding ;-)  I just don't wanna meck of my system too bad
[01:55] <robbie_> giving me a virtual blank sources.list
[01:55] <moonunit> i have all three mounted
[01:55] <navarone> IdleOne, I'll do better than that...send him a note along with the ubuntu cd's I have had sent to him...<woot>
[01:55] <gnomefreak> robbie_: paste the new sources.list please
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, you know how to get onto irc from command line?
[01:55] <annex> mustard5: currently am using irssi and screen
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, that will help if you do strike trouble :)
[01:55] <IdleOne> navarone:  you didnt send him ubuntu cd's for real?
[01:55] <navarone> IdleOne, lol...nooo
[01:55] <IdleOne> lmao we should
[01:55] <dyrne_> moonunit: maybe easiest to use cfdisk /dev/hd* to make partition
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, ah ok..you shouldnt have any major issues
[01:55] <navarone> IdleOne, he can afford a stamp...;)
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, just pop in here if you do
[01:56] <moonunit> cfdisk?
[01:56] <annex> mustard5: when I installed debian back in the day and the release was buggy causing X not to work irssi saved my life ;-)
[01:56] <robbie_> its here http://pastebin.com/563650
[01:56] <mustard5> annex, :)
[01:56] <IdleOne> navarone:  didnt cost me anything to get the cd's and they sent 6
[01:56] <dyrne_> moonunit: sudo cfdisk /dev/whateverharddrive will open cfdisk displaying paritions and will let you add or del more
[01:56] <FlannelKing> If I wanted my ubuntu box to have a static IP (on my home network), I'd just set it at the config screen, is there anything else I have to do, router wise or anything?
[01:57] <moonunit> dyrne, PM me if you can
[01:57] <navarone> IdleOne, I dl'ed my iso
[01:57] <gnomefreak> robbie_: take the # away from the repos that start with word deb you have 0 repos enabled right now you cant even get updates
[01:57] <dyrne_> moonunit: then follow previous instructions on making partitiion swap
[01:57] <moonunit> dyrne, i dont know the names of my drives
[01:57] <robbie_> what about the line that has cdrom in it?
[01:57] <IdleOne> navarone:  I figured if I can get them free why not ()
[01:57] <moonunit> nor do i know how to navigate to them from terminal, which would help alot
[01:57] <dyrne_> moonunit: sudo fdisk -l will list them
[01:57] <jjjjjjj> bye everyone... going for some sunshine
[01:57] <Mordof> how would i put a panel object to wine an exe in opengl mode?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> robbie_: take the # away from lines 5,6,10,11,20,21,30,31,33,35,36
[01:58] <dyrne_> moonunit: cfdisk /dev/hda or hdb etc.
[01:58] <robbie_> all done, doing apt-get update now
[01:58] <gnomefreak> robbie those are the line numbers in pastebin that you need to remove the # from
[01:58] <moonunit> k
[01:58] <gnomefreak> crap :(
[01:59] <gnomefreak> robbie_: let me know if it errors
[01:59] <robbie_> I deleted the cdrom line alltogether
[01:59] <robbie_> ok
[01:59] <gnomefreak> not sure if the backports need multiverse
[01:59] <mustard5> robbie_, the CD rom line is not absolutely necessary, so thats fine...the same packages on the CD are online as well
[01:59] <IdleOne> robbie_:  good idea
[02:00] <gnomefreak> robbie_: apt was looking on cdrom for kubuntu-desktop and its not on disk thats what was wrong now that you have enabled all the other repos you will get kubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <robbie_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) .. I got that, I think the little taskbar  update thing  in gonme is interfering with it
[02:00] <robbie_> ill shut it down
[02:01] <mustard5> robbie_, I'd let it do its thing first
[02:01] <gnomefreak> robbie_: close synaptic if its open
[02:01] <moonunit> dyrne, how do i tell which is my windows install?
[02:02] <dyrne_> moonunit: it will prob show up as ntfs under the System colum
[02:02] <moonunit> well haha
[02:02] <moonunit> my linux one is whateverthehell format
[02:02] <moonunit> and the other two are FAT32
[02:03] <iceman> anyone able to help me get wine to run Diablo II
[02:03] <IdleOne> whateverthehell format is that new?
[02:03] <bimberi> wow, smoke for gnome?
[02:03] <IdleOne> bimberi:  its a new theme lol
[02:03] <xhie> wine will run diablo II?
[02:03] <bimberi> IdleOne: lol
[02:03] <moonunit> dyrne, my linux one i know, the other two are both fat32
[02:04] <Fackamato> how can I find out what has changed in a package of an upgrade?
[02:04] <fr500> iceman: most likely wont work, try cedega
[02:04] <xhie> 90% of the time the most I can get wine to do is give me a welcome  screen for games...
[02:04] <bimberi> Fackamato: the release notes
[02:04] <tritium> Fackamato: read the changelog.Debian.gz in its /usr/share/doc/<packagename> dir
[02:04] <elijah> chon
[02:04] <goodtimes> why would installing gentoo work fine but when I install ubuntu I get a grub error 17? both are using grub
[02:04] <Fackamato> thanks
[02:04] <dyrne_> moonunit: well if youre not sure you could mount them. theyre prob already mounted under your /media/ directory
[02:05] <moonunit> dyrne, there mounted, i can view and store files from them
[02:05] <Mordof> heh, cedega is a laugh
[02:05] <tritium> bimberi: yours is fine too ;)
[02:06] <dyrne_> moonunit: is there any freespace on them? not part of the partition
[02:06] <gnomefreak> ok night all i got to get up at 5 :(
[02:06] <fr500> Mordof: works fine for me
[02:06] <moonunit> no.
[02:06] <Mordof> fr500, for what games?
[02:06] <IdleOne> night gnomefreak
[02:06] <bimberi> tritium: :)
[02:06] <xhie> anyways, does anyone know what I have to change in xorg.conf to get it to boot X rotated in portrait mode? or point me somewhere that has instructions? I looked I swere I did, cant find it
[02:06] <mustard5> Mordof, I can run Homeworld 2 and Railroad Tycoon 3 via cedega...for Medieval Total War I boot up in win98se
[02:06] <dyrne_> moonunit: ach sorry its 8:00 and im free good luck :)
[02:06] <fr500> Mordof: Counter Strike :p
[02:06] <fr500> Mordof: diablo works fine too
[02:07] <Mordof> fr500, thats an opengl game, no kidding
[02:07] <Mordof> mustard5, yeah... understandable
[02:07] <Mordof> all of my games.. out of all of em, the only one that is playable in cedega is warcraft 3
[02:07] <Mordof> which works perfect in wine anyway
[02:07] <Mordof> xpand rally, need for speed underground 1 and 2, halo, painkiller...
[02:07] <mcmillen> is there a way of running fsck "slowly"? i have a raid card that seems to crash when too much load is put on it... but i'd like to fsck the drives before replacing it, if possible
[02:07] <mustard5> Mordof, has the 'unofficial wiki' given you any hints?
[02:08] <Mordof> mustard5, nah, i dont bother with that when dealing with pay to play products. if it doesn't work on install, its not worth it
[02:08] <mustard5> Mordof, they often show what settings will work with different games anyway :)
[02:08] <Mordof> imo cedega shouldnt be charging anything right now, im running an nvidia 6800 xt and i cant even play need for speed underground on lowest graphis
[02:09] <Mordof> mustard5, ahh i see
[02:09] <Mordof> mustard5, now i have the not-so-fun task of backing up my 28gb home directory and formatting to get windows xp back on so i can play some games :P
[02:10] <mustard5> Mordof, reinstalling windows will destroy grub too :)
[02:10] <mustard5> Mordof, so that should be fun if you are still going to be dual booting
[02:10] <Mordof> mustard5, which is why im formatting completely and reinstalling ubuntu
[02:10] <newbiesszz> has anyone installed evolution 2.4.2
[02:11] <mustard5> Mordof, ah ok..I see now
[02:11] <Op3r> fdisk /mbr can destroy grub
[02:11] <Mordof> mustard5, very easy that way :)
[02:11] <matt_> hi... I have a question about getting perl and cgi going on ubuntu/debian
[02:11] <mustard5> Mordof, hehe yeah..I've done it the 'hard way', but its not easy to explain how its done
[02:12] <Mordof> mustard5, heh.. hrmm.. is there actually a virtual pc thing that i could use to install a copy of windows xp on and run games from inside that?
[02:12] <Mordof> i know i could do that in windows anyway
[02:12] <dekela> any good links to start customizing my flight 4 installation?
[02:13] <mustard5> Mordof, its rings a bell..but I don't know the details
[02:13] <Mordof> k
[02:13] <Mordof> mustard5, how hard is it to change the /home dir?
[02:13] <matt_> if I just install "libcgi-perl" and put my cgi scripts in "/usr/lib/cgi-bin" will I be all set to run cgi scripts?
[02:13] <Mordof> im so mad at myself.. i put my /home dir on my 80gb instead of on my 250gb, and my linux install on the 250
[02:14] <jetscreamer> change it
[02:14] <Jivenix> hey i think i found a bug in bash
[02:14] <jetscreamer> boot a live cd and tar em up
[02:14] <Jivenix> if i "more somefile.png"
[02:14] <Jivenix> and "q" in the middle of it
[02:14] <Jivenix> all text following is garbled
[02:14] <Mordof> jetscreamer, that to me?
[02:14] <Jivenix> strange, ascii chars
[02:14] <thelsdj> Jivenix: type 'reset'
[02:14] <jetscreamer> sure
[02:14] <Mordof> :|
[02:15] <Jivenix> that worked
[02:15] <Jivenix> what was that all about?
[02:15] <thelsdj> :)
[02:15] <jetscreamer> or just reinstall, won't take long
[02:15] <thelsdj> viewing binary data on terminal messes it up
[02:15] <Jivenix> ah
[02:15] <Mordof> jetscreamer, i was thinking more along the lines of resizing the partition that ubuntu is on to like 40gb, and then making the rest my /home partition
[02:15] <randabis> howdy fella
[02:15] <jetscreamer> dpkg --get-selections >whatyouinstalledsofar.txt
[02:15] <randabis> s
[02:15] <thelsdj> its not meant to display all possible characters
[02:15] <jetscreamer> dpkg --set-selections < whatyouinstalledsofar.txt
[02:15] <jetscreamer> after
[02:15] <FlannelKing> If I wanted my ubuntu box to have a static IP (on my home network), I'd just set it at the config screen, is there anything else I have to do, router wise or anything?
[02:15] <mustard5> Mordof, it should be as easy as changing the 'mount point' if you have a seperate partition for /home  I would think
[02:16] <navarone> Mordof how big a drive?
[02:16] <Mordof> mustard5, yeah my /home is seperate
[02:16] <Mordof> navarone, im running a 250gb and an 80gb, i want my 250gb partition (holding ubuntu) sized to about 40-60gb, and the rest made for my /home
[02:16] <Mordof> navarone, but im hoping i can do this without reinstalling ubuntu
[02:16] <randabis> I'm testing out the new Dapper Flight 4 (currently using Windows atm) and have run into a small wireless networking problem
[02:17] <navarone> Mordof you can resize partitions in gparted
[02:17] <Mordof> navarone, on the same partition ubuntu is running on?
[02:17] <vaquero> how do you get rid of the SPLASH screen on boot up?  In RedHat you boot into INIT 3 as oppose to INIT 5 (i think) - so how do we do it in Ubuntu?
[02:17] <IdleOne> !wireless
[02:17] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:17] <navarone> Mordof but you should really use a live cd...partition has to be unmounted to resize
[02:17] <mustard5> Mordof, a liveCD would do the trick perhaps
[02:17] <Mordof> navarone, whats the smallest liveCD i can get?
[02:17] <randabis> I have a broadcom 4318 chipset integrated into the laptop I'm using and Dapper Flight 4 detected it on install and even downloaded a few updates
[02:18] <randabis> The problem is the network is not working on the completed install
[02:18] <bimberi> FlannelKing: nope, just make sure the fixed address is in the network range recognised by the router (eg. 192.168.1.NN) and you should be fine
[02:18] <RockyBurt> randabis: but doesn't the broadcom 4318 chipset require ndiswrapper ?
[02:18] <FlannelKing> bimberi, thanks
[02:18] <Mordof> mustard5, cool.. how do i then change my /home dir partition once its all resized?
[02:18] <randabis> The card is still detected (but is eth0 not wlan0 like it normally would be)
[02:18] <bimberi> FlannelKing: yw :)
[02:18] <navarone> Mordof it is possible to use ubuntu install cd to resize as well i think...you do resizing of existing partition and then abort install when changes are written...
[02:18] <alpha254> navarone, i've done that before and it works well :)
[02:19] <randabis> RockyBurt apparently not in dapper flight 4 it was detected during the install, and it had me set up an essid, etc
[02:19] <newbiesszz> does anyone have a deb version of evolution 2.4.2
[02:19] <navarone> alpha254,  :)
[02:19] <cafuego> randabis: wlan0 would be a from ndiswrapper or somesuch; eth0 means thwe actual kernel detected it.
[02:19] <Mordof> navarone, ok, ill try that
[02:19] <Mordof> thanks
[02:19] <IdleOne> !evolution
[02:19] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[02:19] <RockyBurt> randabis: did you upgrade from breezy? or do a fresh install?
[02:19] <navarone> Mordof you just have to scroll down to see abort install option in install menu
[02:19] <randabis> cafuego: oh, okay
[02:19] <mustard5> Mordof, I'm not very experienced with partitioning.   I worry a lot whenever I do it. :)
[02:20] <randabis> RockyBurt: fresh install from the Flight 4 64-bit CD
[02:20] <navarone> mustard5, I do as well...but backupd make me less nervous...,s>
[02:20] <RockyBurt> i wonder if an upgrade from breezy is possible
[02:20] <Discipulus> Increasing the the client's receive buffer (31.0 KB) will improve performance <~~~ How do I do this?
[02:20] <LinuxJones> randabis, mine was auto detected too
[02:20] <randabis> LinuxJones does it work?
[02:20] <vaquero> how do you get rid of the SPLASH screen on boot up?  In RedHat you boot into INIT 3 as oppose to INIT 5 (i think) - so how do we do it in Ubuntu?
[02:20] <Mordof> mustard5, heh, ive done it a bit, just never with linux.. brb while i partition
[02:21] <Mordof> navarone, whats backupd?
[02:21] <randabis> Mine won't work...it keeps telling me "network is down" when I try dhclient
[02:21] <navarone> backups
[02:21] <fr500> vaquero: f2 i think
[02:21] <Mordof> how does that work
[02:21] <vaquero> f2?
[02:21] <LinuxJones> randabis, It has no problem starting up but I don't have a wireless router
[02:21] <Xenguy> vaquero: rcconf, de-activate gdm, that's it
[02:21] <mustard5> Mordof, you can tar your /home...in a tar.gz file btw
[02:21] <vaquero> Fr500 is that like init?
[02:21] <randabis> LinuxJones oh okay
[02:21] <navarone> Mordof I mean bacjking up data before resizing
[02:21] <bimberi> cafuego: onya, that one had mystifed me to some extent too (my IPW2100 is eth0)
[02:21] <vaquero> Xenguy ok - let me try is
[02:21] <Xenguy> vaquero: you may have to install rcconf
[02:21] <Mordof> mustard5, yeah but that wont do me any good if i cant burn it onto a dvd will it?
[02:22] <Mordof> navarone, oh ok
[02:22] <Discipulus> Increasing the the client's receive buffer (31.0 KB) will improve performance <~~~ How do I do this?
[02:22] <vaquero> let me google rcconf
[02:22] <vaquero> thanks Xenguy
[02:22] <Xenguy> vaquero: apt-cache show rcconf
[02:22] <Xenguy> vaquero: yw
[02:22] <LinuxJones> randabis, I just got an Aspire 5002 wxga is so nice :)
[02:22] <mustard5> Mordof, yeah..you would need some external storage device
[02:22] <mcmillen> is there a way of marking a filesystem clean, even if it's not (yes, i know that's ing an ext2 filesystem clean
[02:22] <mcmillen> oopsie :)
[02:23] <Xenguy> vaquero: or you can do command-line 'update-rc.d' (man update-rc.d)
[02:23] <mustard5> Mordof, cross your fingers and hope for the best? :P hehehe
[02:23] <_jason> vaquero: system > admin > services should let you deactivate gdm as well
[02:23] <randabis> Well, like I said, during the install the network was apparently working...dhclient pulled up an IP, and it downloaded updates to certain packages during the install. When the install was complete, and I got into gnome, the network is not working, and tinkering with the included networking config program is not producing any results
[02:23] <Xenguy> _jason: good point
[02:23] <randabis> LinuxJones nice; I have a Gateway MX6421...15in widescreen rocks
[02:23] <Mordof> mustard5, lol
[02:23] <LinuxJones> randabis, you mean the wireless card ?
[02:24] <Mordof> mustard5, my /home is on a seperate hard drive entirely, so if i dont touch that drive it wont be a problem... that is, until i try to send it to another partition
[02:24] <mustard5> Mordof, ah ok...
[02:24] <randabis> LinuxJones my problem is with the wireless card, the gateway thing there is the laptop model
[02:24] <Mordof> question for anyone: how would i go about moving my /home from one harddrive to another without reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:25] <vaquero> _jason - ur right - I used rcconf anyway - didn't read ur comment
[02:25] <vaquero> thanks!
[02:25] <jetscreamer> just /home ? cp -a
[02:25] <_jason> vaquero: good to know too
[02:25] <Xenguy> Mordof: just migrate and possibly edit /etc/fstab AFAICT
[02:25] <jetscreamer> then edit fstab
[02:25] <LinuxJones> randabis, you have to modprobe the broadcom driver, I just put it in /etc/modules so it get's loaded at every boot.
[02:25] <sethk> Mordof, why would that require you to reinstall?
[02:25] <Mordof> sethk, cause i dont know how to do that
[02:25] <sethk> Mordof, I can't think of a way to do it that _would_ require you to reinstall
[02:26] <hunterp> poontang
[02:26] <tecs> hi after upgrading last night using update manager.....and successfully installing upgrades.... this morning just now my computer when grub booted....windows is gone from the menu
[02:26] <jetscreamer> moving both the installation and the /home, switching them, would be easy also
[02:26] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yeah but.. in the filesystem its all in there
[02:26] <randabis> LinuxJones I could try that...it is apparently already detected though since it is assigned an interface...eth0
[02:26] <sethk> Mordof, just create the new space with some other name, copy all the data from /home into it, rename /home to something else, create an empty /home, and mount the new space on it
[02:26] <Mordof> jetscreamer, wait, i could SWITCH the installation and the home onto the same partitions???
[02:26] <randabis> ifconfig only shows lo, but if you do ifconfig eth0, it shows the broadcomm wireless
[02:26] <jetscreamer> yes you could do that also
[02:26] <Mordof> how!?
[02:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mordof about partitionhome
[02:26] <Mordof> that would be the best!
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, so you might, say, create a directory /usr2, then mount your new space there, and do cp -av /home/. /usr2/.
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, then you rename the /home directory
[02:27] <LinuxJones> randabis, The module wasn't loaded for me after initial install that's what I did to make it work.
[02:27] <jetscreamer> unmount /home, mount it somewhere else, then cp -a /mnt/oldhome /home
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, then you di mkdir /home
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, then you umount /usr2, and mount that same space on /home
[02:27] <LinuxJones> randabis, do lsmod to see if it's loaded already
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, makes no difference whether home is currently a separate partition.
[02:27] <randabis> LinuxJones I'll go try that...I wish I could do it within windows...:p that would be nice.
[02:27] <mister_roboto> does anyone here run dapper on vmware, or have you tried?
[02:28] <sethk> Mordof, you will also have to correct /etc/fstab to reflect the change
[02:28] <sethk> jetscreamer, sure, slight variations on the same theme
[02:28] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yeah but you're all saying it different and im getting so damn confused :S
[02:28] <randabis> anyway, brb
[02:28] <randabis> gotta boot into dapper
[02:28] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yours made the most sense to me :P lol
[02:28] <mustard5> Mordof, maybe you can drag someone off to another channel to walk through it step by step :)
[02:28] <sethk> Mordof, then try what he told you.
[02:29] <sethk> Mordof, it's actually easier to do than to explain
[02:29] <Mordof> sethk, i see
[02:29] <keithhhhhhhhh> I just had a problem partitioning my HD to install ubuntu..
[02:29] <keithhhhhhhhh> What is RAID?
[02:30] <mustard5> Mordof, I reckon I could do it from the sounds of it
[02:30] <jetscreamer> Mordof: most important thing to remember is that never erase anything untill you KNOW it works
[02:30] <corvax> ifyou dont know what raid is you dont have it
[02:30] <jetscreamer> !raid
[02:30] <ubotu> [raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[02:30] <sinaduel> hey guys, how do i enable the universal database in synaptic .. i just installed and for some reason there is no updates , and when i go to upgrade to kubuntu via synaptic i search and it dosent show up ?
[02:30] <mustard5> Mordof, you want to go to #kubuntu-offtopic and we can give it go?
[02:30] <Mordof> ill be in channel.... #switchparts      if someone wants to come help me, thatd be awesome
[02:30] <sethk> damn, I can't remember which machine I installed the tftp server on.
[02:30] <mustard5> Mordof, ok #switchparts gotcha :)
[02:31] <keithhhhhhhhh> great hehe
[02:31] <keithhhhhhhhh> I guess Ill try again
[02:31] <Gunner112k> Hello, my ubuntu install won't even boot
[02:32] <sinaduel> hey guys, how do i enable the universal database in synaptic .. i just installed and for some reason there is no updates , and when i go to upgrade to kubuntu via synaptic i search and it dosent show up ?
[02:32] <Gunner112k> after installing a couple packages, specificly grub and lilo
[02:32] <LinuxJones> Gunner112k, you installed lilo ?
[02:32] <Gunner112k> I tried
[02:32] <Gunner112k> uninstalled afterwards
[02:33] <Gunner112k> then reinstalled grub
[02:33] <sinaduel> can someone please help ???
[02:33] <Gunner112k> I'm typing from the emergency session
[02:33] <mcquaid> hello, i'm having some stability issues with mplayer plugin, and  I wanted to compile from source
[02:33] <sethk> sinaduel, you need the repository list?
[02:33] <mcquaid> when i install the ubuntu packages it works with epiphany and firefox
[02:33] <LinuxJones> Gunner112k, what errors are you getting ?
[02:33] <mcquaid> how do i ensure it works with any mozilla based browser when compiling?
[02:34] <Gunner112k> I would like to know but I can't copy-paste the log
[02:34] <Gunner112k> or so I think
[02:34] <sethk> Gunner112k, put it on a paste bot
[02:34] <mcquaid> i thought i'd need firefox dev pkg, but do i need both? the epiphany dev pkg in addition
[02:34] <Gunner112k> x-session the file was, I think
[02:34] <Xnos> can i restore the temp folder?... i reboot the pc and all has gone
[02:34] <sinaduel> sethk: when i click on repositorys th cd is the only thing that shows up
[02:34] <sethk> Gunner112k, x-session has nothing to do with grub
[02:34] <Ubeyguy___> is there a repository that has gmake and apche and mysql i can add?
[02:34] <sethk> sinaduel, not sure how that happened, but you'll have to add the other repositories to the list
[02:35] <Infohawk> I had a messed up install, installing to usb-hdd. I didn't create any users. How do I get root privileges?
[02:35] <Gunner112k> well that thing is messing up my ubuntu install
[02:35] <sethk> Infohawk, you'll have to boot a rescue cd and either do a chroot, or set the root password temporarily to blank
[02:35] <Gunner112k> I log in and I got a window that says "your session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[02:35] <tecs> hi, after upgrading yesterday my windows is now gone from my grub menu. i upgraded using upgrade mangaer and upgraded all the avail;able upgrades for my packages
[02:35] <zebraFusion> how do you rename files in terminal?
[02:35] <sethk> Gunner112k, try a non-graphical install
[02:36] <sethk> zebraFusion, mv
[02:36] <fr500> zebraFusion: rename
[02:36] <zebraFusion> fr500, thanks
[02:36] <fr500> zebraFusion: but mv works too
[02:36] <fr500> zebraFusion: mv filename newfilename
[02:36] <zebraFusion> fr500, ah, thanks.
[02:36] <sethk> rename is something different
[02:37] <Ubeyguy___> ?
[02:37] <corvax> n curses is not really graphical
[02:38] <Ubeyguy___> anyone?
[02:38] <corvax> heh
[02:38] <Infohawk> Is it possible to install with something even simpler than ncurses?
[02:38] <seth> hi
[02:38] <Fackamato> anyone tried initng?
[02:38] <Fackamato> gonna give it a try now
[02:38] <seth> not sure
[02:38] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:38] <bimberi> Ubeyguy: apache and mysql are in ubuntu's main repository.  gmake? do you mean GNU make - that's just called 'make'
[02:38] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: install build-essential to get make
[02:38] <seth> ok maajor geek fest bye
[02:38] <Ubeyguy___> thank you
[02:39] <sethk> Ubeyguy, the search function in synaptic is good for finding things like that
[02:39] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[02:40] <sethk> beerockxs, that's a window manager function.  I know how to do it in kde but not in gnome
[02:40] <navarone> cya folks
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:41] <burden> Im a bit of a linux newb, im having trouble getting my music to play, apparently I dont have "decoders"
[02:41] <sethk> ah, I can't find the tftp server in new york because I installed it in seattle.  Dumb program.
[02:41] <OmegaAlpha> g'evening/morning, i know this is common and i should know how to do this already...
[02:41] <_jason> burden: mp3?
[02:41] <burden> correct
[02:41] <beerockxs> anyone have an idea where to set that in gnome?
[02:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell burden about mp3
[02:42] <OmegaAlpha> i installed easy ubuntu and i guess it didnt install the java plugin.. but i need to install a java runtime plugin for firefox to play this game called RUNE.. i tried on firefox with its autoinstall but didnt work
[02:42] <_jason> beerockxs: you can use devilspie to tell windows where on the screen to open, don't know if when using two screens the second one just continues the x-values of the screen... if so then you could use devilspie
[02:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about java
[02:44] <burden> Thank you!
[02:44] <randabis> I'm back
[02:44] <beerockxs> is there an option to get the show desktop applet to work per screen?
[02:45] <PMantis> Does anyone know where apt stores its list of installed packages?
[02:45] <odat> beerockxs, per screen?
[02:45] <randabis> I had no luck with the modprobe bcm43xx suggestion. As I said earlier, the device is already detected and it has been assigned an interface eth0
[02:45] <mikeo1> 5 min till my dapper 4 finishes
[02:45] <beerockxs> odat: I'm using Xinerama
[02:45] <zebraFusion> is there such a command as "cdup"
[02:45] <sethk> PMantis, I think /etc/apt
[02:45] <zebraFusion> to move back one directory
[02:45] <mateon> zebraFusion: cd ..
[02:46] <mikeo1> anyone here running dapper 4 with xgl?
[02:46] <zebraFusion> Thanks, mateon
[02:46] <randabis> the problem is that the networking as a whole is down apparently...if you do ifconfig, the only thing that shows up is lo, the loopback device
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> mikeo1,  i was - and i advise.. dont try it. :P
[02:46] <zebraFusion> mikeol: I got it to work on my laptop but could not on my desktop.
[02:46] <mateon> PMantis: it is propably somewhere in /var. why do you want to know that?
[02:46] <Ubeyguy___> _jason: what do i type to install build-essentials
[02:46] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, thanks... btw i got errors when doing that setup install... about broken packages... does that mean some things didnt install?
[02:46] <randabis> however, if you do ifconfig -a, all devices are shown, including the wireless, eth0
[02:46] <roostishaw> Anyone.... does gtkWifi support WPA?
[02:47] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: use synaptic or 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:47] <PMantis> mateon, Something was goofed up with a few packages, and every time I update anything, it spits out errors about files not existing.
[02:47] <chon> elijah : t'es l?
[02:47] <sethk> randabis, it would be very unusual for the wireless to be eth0
[02:47] <taylor_> can anyone tell me how to get my yamaha speakers to quit sounding like poop these are supposed to be good speakers but the subwoofer doesnt sound right do i need a special driver to get it to sound right
[02:47] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: what setup install?
[02:47] <PMantis> mateon, if I can tell apt that webmin is (no longer) installed, it'll stop trying to remove it.
[02:47] <randabis> if you use the gnome network setup utility, it shows that eth0 is not active...I click the activate button, and it activates eth0, but I still can't connect and it is still not shown in the ifconfig
[02:48] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, when you first run EasyUbuntu after installation. You get to check what you want installed...
[02:48] <mikeo1> tried to go from the previous stable one to dapper before, but it killed my bootloader
[02:48] <mikeo1> when i did the kernel upgrade
[02:48] <Ubeyguy___> ?
[02:48] <mikeo1> so will just try to install dapper 4 then do xgl
[02:48] <randabis> sethk why? cafuego says otherwise since it is a wireless card that is supported by a kernel driver
[02:48] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: if it didn't work you should file a bug and inform developers
[02:48] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: what errors did you get?
[02:48] <PMantis> mateon, Any clue there?
[02:49] <mikeo1> are there any programs to make use of the extra buttons on my logitech mouse?
[02:49] <taylor_> can anyone tell me how to get my yamaha speakers to quit sounding like poop these are supposed to be good speakers but the subwoofer doesnt sound right do i need a special driver to get it to sound right
[02:49] <sethk> randabis, I have five machines with similar configurations, and the wireless is never eth0.  It has a different name.  The wired interface is eth0
[02:49] <Gunner112k> that was in my x-session.errors:
[02:49] <_jason> mikeo1: what mouse exactly?
[02:49] <sethk> randabis, even if I turn the wired interface off, the wireless is still never eth0.
[02:49] <randabis> Anyway, if you do dhclient, it sends a dhcp request to eth0, but it replies "network is down"
[02:49] <sethk> randabis, that's why I said it seems unusual.  Not impossible, of course,
[02:49] <Ubeyguy___>  tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:49] <mikeo1> logitech mx310
[02:49] <Ubeyguy___> tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:49] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: tell mikeo1 about logitech
[02:49] <mateon> PMantis: hrm, you should be able to find such info in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ or in the dpkg manpage
[02:50] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:50] <_jason> argh...
[02:50] <Ubeyguy___> lol
[02:50] <Mordof> lol
[02:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikeo1 about logitech
[02:50] <randabis> sethk I read that this particular driver (bcm43xx) assigns it to an eth interface for some reason
[02:50] <mateon> PMantis: the former suggests apt-get -f install or dpkg --configure -a
[02:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:50] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, let me run it again so it brings them up and i can copy them to paste bin.. i think its probs with repositories.. but i never had a prob with my reposits. i did the apt-get update toobefore and after
[02:50] <mikeo1> want to make hte extra buttons control xmms
[02:50] <mikeo1> :D
[02:51] <jetscreamer> man xkbmodmap maybe
[02:51] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, well i just tried installing the java pluggin and i think i got similiar errors with that too
[02:51] <PMantis> mateon, Heh, apt says, "webmin is already the newest version", but it's not even installed. :)
[02:51] <dabaR> ya...
[02:52] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: pastebin them
[02:52] <dabaR> the apt never lies
[02:52] <mateon> PMantis: try apt-get -f install webmin
[02:52] <dabaR> PMantis: aptitude search webmin
[02:52] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8915
[02:52] <dabaR> does it have two ii's beside it?
[02:52] <PMantis> mateon, That's what I just did.
[02:52] <PMantis> dabaR, I'll try that
[02:52] <dabaR> you better
[02:53] <Ubeyguy_> _jason: sorry
[02:53] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:53] <mateon> PMantis: well then, how about apt-get -f --purge remove webmin ?
[02:53] <Ubeyguy_> can you please tell me what to type?
[02:53] <_jason> Ubeyguy_: for?
[02:53] <randabis> hmmm
[02:53] <randabis> I wish I could figure this out
[02:54] <Ubeyguy_> _jason: i did sudo apt-get lamp
[02:54] <Ubeyguy_> says it cant find it
[02:54] <randabis> the wifi worked during the installation of dapper flight 4...
[02:54] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, yeah my bad i did the sudo command...
[02:54] <mateon> !lamp
[02:54] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ubeyguy_ about lamp
[02:54] <_jason> Ubeyguy_: read what ubotu sent you
[02:54] <braniff> apt-get install myass
[02:54] <dabaR> _jason: if you sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, and then decide you do not like it, so you sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, it will remove all packages that you installed with kubuntu-desktop, the dependencies. sudo apt-get will not do that. thus, for normal everyday package management, aptitude is preferred for users.
[02:55] <LjL> dabaR: definitely
[02:55] <dabaR> LjL: thanks for the factoids/
[02:55] <Mordof> dabaR, ive had troubles with that, im now officially using aptitude
[02:55] <_jason> dabaR: ah very good point.  I was definitely annoyed with apt-get when i was in that situation
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason: a reply on a few days back...
[02:55] <Mordof> dabaR, i actually have done that very same thing.. lmao
[02:55] <dabaR> a follow up if you will
[02:55] <PMantis> mateon, Results of --purge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8916
[02:55] <PMantis> mateon, Error. :(
[02:56] <Ubeyguy> sorry my internet is killing me
[02:56] <Ubeyguy> jason did you answer me"??
[02:56] <dabaR> PMantis: did that show you the two ii beside it? the aptitude search webmin?
[02:56] <aldren> 10:54PM <braniff> apt-get install myass
[02:56] <aldren> hahaha
[02:56] <TokenBad> what is command to update the db for locate?
[02:56] <_jason> dabaR: I have been trying to use aptitude, one thing that I can't find is something similar to policy with apt-cache, show works but gives too much info
[02:56] <LjL> TokenBad: updatedb
[02:56] <_jason> Ubeyguy: did you get a private emssage from ubotu?
[02:56] <braniff> heh
[02:56] <TokenBad> LjL, thanks
[02:56] <Ubeyguy> yes thank you i will read up
[02:56] <LjL> _jason: why bother? just use apt-cache
[02:57] <aldren> braniff, like a apt-get moo
[02:57] <LjL> _jason: i use apt-cache to search for packages (and show them, etc), and aptitude to actually install and remove
[02:57] <dabaR> _jason: I still use apt-get for some things, but for normal installing of things, especially if they have deps, I was taught to use sudo. by crimsun, incidentally.
[02:57] <aldren> braniff, did you see it ?
[02:57] <PMantis> mateon, Even after error is seems it did purge it.
[02:57] <PMantis> dabaR, It did, but now it does not.
[02:57] <mateon> dabaR: I remember aptitude wanting to remove some packages installed by some other front-end to apt (synaptics perhaps?) else hapily stating that they are no longer necessary
[02:57] <PMantis> dabaR, I think mateon is on to something.
[02:57] <dabaR> PMantis: the ii m,eans it is insatlled.
[02:57] <_jason> LjL: right, just curious if aptitude had something similar
[02:57] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, heres the errors for EasyUbuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8917
[02:58] <dabaR> mateon: aptitude will remove unused packages too.
[02:58] <braniff> E: Couldn't find package myass -- DOH!
[02:58] <mateon> dabaR: hm, but the packages in question *were used*
[02:58] <purpleidea> would someone be able to direct me to where i could find out how to get the smp kernel working on an inspiron9400 duo 2.0ghz?
[02:58] <aldren> hahaha
[02:58] <mateon> PMantis: hrm, so it's ok now?
[02:58] <PMantis> dabaR, Yes, but it actually was *not* installed. whenever I ran an update on another package, it would complain about missing webmin files. I couldn't remove it because of errors, nor installed it (because apt said it was already installed).
[02:58] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: sudo apt-get update
[02:58] <zeecko> hola
[02:59] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, when do you switch from using apt-get install and sudo apt-get install?
[02:59] <dabaR> mateon: that is one reason I do not like aptitude. for example, if you use it to install ubuntu-desktop, which can safely be removed, and you try to remove it with aptitude, it will remove all of its deps.
[02:59] <PMantis> mateon, almost... dependency issues with webmin-*
[02:59] <Mordof> OmegaAlpha, i just always used sudo.. didnt think there was a difference
[02:59] <PMantis> mateon, I'll update you in a sec.
[02:59] <mustard5> purpleidea, I remember reading a quite comprehensive thread on the ubuntuforums on the subject...I'll have a look for it
[03:00] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: Sorry, I do not get the point of your q. after I had to manually remove xfce.
[03:00] <purpleidea> mustard5: i would appreciate it :)
[03:00] <zeecko> hi
[03:00] <Mordof> dabaR, he means whats the difference when using sudo and when not using it, and when is it appropriate to use either of the two
[03:00] <dabaR> Mordof: the difference is it will not work without sudo
[03:00] <moonunit> how can i navigate to another (mounted) HDD in my computer from terminal?
[03:00] <Mordof> dabaR, oh so you cant use it at all without it? k
[03:00] <dabaR> cause only root can install things
[03:00] <Mordof> k, thats what it hought
[03:00] <Mordof> i thought*(
[03:00] <LjL> ubotu, tell mordof about sudo
[03:01] <dabaR> unless you are root, which you are not in ubuntu by default
[03:01] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, i get an error at the end of doing sudo apt-get update...
[03:01] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: pastebin
[03:01] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: post your error and sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:01] <LjL> Mordof: but that's a *good* thing. it won't let you (or your programs) mess with your system unless you *clearly* specify so
[03:01] <dabaR> Did you guys know I'm just a stupid kid?
[03:02] <dabaR> Hey, sorry. that was my gf.
[03:02] <PMantis> mateon, Ok, webmin is now installed (and apt knows about it)
[03:02] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8918
[03:02] <LjL> heh
[03:02] <romeo> beep media player is my choice for ogg vorbis amd shoutcast streams
[03:02] <Gunner112k> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[03:02] <Gunner112k> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "kevin"
[03:02] <Gunner112k> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: Cannot create /dev/X
[03:02] <moonunit> ive got a problem, i need to mount my other two drives under /dev
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransPTSOpenServer: mkdir(/dev/X) failed, errno = 13
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for pts/Gunner112k:
[03:02] <dabaR> yay!
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for pts
[03:02] <dabaR> wooo!!
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransISCOpenServer: Protocol is not supported by a ISC connection
[03:02] <OmegaAlpha> gunner pastebin!
[03:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell Gunner112k about pastebin
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for isc/Gunner112k:
[03:02] <LjL> Gunner112k: please look at the topic. it mentions a pastebin ;)
[03:02] <PMantis> mateon, Thank you much!   I have one additional problem with a package. Since you're familiar I would appreciate guidance. I'll paste.
[03:02] <mateon> PMantis: that's good, right? Off to have a smoke
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for isc
[03:02] <dabaR> pastewave
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransSCOOpenServer: Protocol is not supported by a SCO connection
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for sco/Gunner112k:
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for sco
[03:03] <Gunner112k> ** (gnome-session:8070): WARNING **: Unable to read ICE authority file: /home/kevin/.ICEauthority
[03:03] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:03] <moonunit> _jason, got a minute?
[03:03] <dabaR> ride the pastewave
[03:03] <Gunner112k> and what if I don't know what a pastebin is?
[03:03] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, ok
[03:03] <mateon> PMantis: ok, I'll wait with that cigarette
[03:03] <LjL> Gunner112k: a bin which lets you paste things on?
[03:03] <dabaR> you ask the bot
[03:03] <_jason> moonunit: actually I'm kind of tired, I'm just gonna finish helping OmegaAlpha and then I'm out, just ask the channel
[03:03] <dabaR> Gunner112k: ^
[03:03] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Gunner112k about pastebin
[03:03] <moonunit> _jason, right
[03:03] <LjL> Gunner112k: you know, as you can see the channel here's quite busy, and it's more than a little annoying if people paste hundreds of lines of text ;)
[03:03] <moonunit> i need to mount my drives under /dev, any ideas?
[03:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Gunner112k about xhangs
[03:04] <dabaR> the channel is crazy last few days.
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, Ok, 2 errors here, but I don't care about the sun java one.
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8919
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, slapd is installed, and working, since I'm activelt using it for authentication.
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, but apt still thinks it needs setting up.
[03:05] <mustard5> purpleidea, just curious what steps you have taken so far
[03:05] <mikeo1> can dapper 4 be run from an ext2 partition?
[03:05] <moonunit> i need to mount some drives under /dev, anyone who wants to help?
[03:05] <dabaR> dapper 4?
[03:05] <intelikey> hmmm it seems that this 'new and improved' bx has not got some of the features that it had before they improved it....  anyone know how to turn version reply off in bx nowadays ?    it used to be [del]    now it seems that that only deletes chars....
[03:05] <mikeo1> dapper flight 4 that was just released
[03:05] <dabaR> mikeo1: it may work, or it may not, right?
[03:05] <mustard5> purpleidea, are you having trouble installing a kernel from synaptic?  Or have you not tried synaptic yet? or some other issue?
[03:05] <mikeo1> yeah i guess lol
[03:05] <Protocol1> IE sucks im going back to IE
[03:06] <Protocol1> Firefox*
[03:06] <dabaR> awwww
[03:06] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8920 my source list
[03:06] <amphi> moonunit: what are you trying to do?
[03:06] <mister_roboto> Protocol1: sucks how?
[03:06] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: and the error?
[03:06] <bimberi> *which
[03:06] <corvax> he likes active x and dcom
[03:06] <mateon> PMantis: hmmm, how about moving /var/backups/o=switzerny,c=org-2.1.30-3ubuntu3.1.ldapdb out of dpkg's way?
[03:06] <corvax> security holes
[03:07] <purpleidea> mustard5: well i'm thinking it's not hardware related b/c smp works "out of the box" in fedora 4, smp starts to boot, and right before gdm loads it stays with the cursor in "hourglass" mode. naw, i've already installed the latest smp with synaptic, and all that works fine. just the loading from grub is the problem...
[03:07] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: comment _everything_ out, or just erase it.
[03:07] <Protocol1> mister_roboto, i just preffer the feel and looks of the fox
[03:07] <moonunit> i need help mounting drives.
[03:07] <Gunner112k> ubotu _jason wants you to know: If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[03:07] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Gunner112k
[03:07] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8918 thats the error
[03:07] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: what version of easyubuntu are you using, it's setting up plf incorrectly... I'm  gonna have the bot send you a link where you can make a new /etc/apt/sources.list and replace your current one
[03:07] <Gunner112k> I tried that and it said X not found, ICE not found
[03:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about easysource
[03:07] <intelikey> bimberi with konq thats never a problem  :)
[03:07] <mustard5> purpleidea, what graphics card are you using?
[03:07] <purpleidea> mustard5: i've been looking for a solution, other people have the same/similar issues, ie: if you look on the wiki
[03:07] <mister_roboto> Protocol: oh, I thought you meant that Firefox sucked and was wondering what you didn't like :)
[03:07] <bimberi> intelikey: lol
[03:07] <mateon> PMantis: there is propably a way to tell dpkg not to configure a certain package, but letting do it's job is fair easier
[03:08] <purpleidea> mustard5: its the nvidia7800 go 256mb
[03:08] <Nogimics> Can anyone tell me why when I use putty to connect to my 1 shell filetypes are distinguished by colour codes but not on my ubuntu box when i ssh in with putty?
[03:08] <Protocol1> i was talking about not liking IE
[03:08] <Protocol1> heh
[03:08] <Gunner112k> ubotu _jason wants you to know: If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[03:08] <ubotu> Gunner112k: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:08] <mustard5> purpleidea, just curious whether that is the issue...though I suppose gdm is actually loading..so maybe not
[03:08] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, umm will that be difficult... i think i might have added custom sources but wont be able to find them again...
[03:08] <Gunner112k> it said "no such file: Xauthority, ICEauthority"
[03:08] <_jason> Gunner112k: did you put the '.' ?
[03:08] <moonunit> anyone, help on mounting drives?
[03:08] <mister_roboto> Nogimics: different terminal type?
[03:09] <Gunner112k> n0
[03:09] <Smeggy> can anyone tell me how well the fan system is supported in Apple dual processor (NOT dual core) G5s?
[03:09] <intelikey> sudo rm *auth*
[03:09] <mustard5> purpleidea, have you installed nvidia drivers on your system from synaptic?
[03:09] <mikeo1> can drapper flight 4 be run from an ext3 partition?
[03:09] <mateon> !tell moonunit about ask
[03:09] <Gunner112k> ok so it didn't do anything
[03:09] <Gunner112k> let's see if something works
[03:09] <purpleidea> mustard5: no problem, ask whatever you like, i'm just trying to get this laptop fully functional, so that 1) it will work for me, and 2) i can post some stuff because it seems a ton of people are having similar problems, just came out feb1st
[03:09] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: Ill make you a sources.list, jsut erase it all
[03:09] <PMantis> mateon, Ok, tried that. Move the dir away, and now see:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8921
[03:09] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:09] <intelikey> moonunit what kind of drive   and where ?
[03:09] <dabaR> Ive made it almost
[03:09] <Nogimics> mister_roboto: What do you mean by that pls? One is ubuntu one is Linux but just wondering how I can get PuTTy to recognise filetypes by colour on both
[03:09] <amphi> moonunit: could you be more vague? ;)
[03:09] <mustard5> purpleidea, supplemental to that question would be have you installed the linux-restricted-module for your kernel version?
[03:09] <Fackamato> wow
[03:10] <Fackamato> initng is FAST
[03:10] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, you sure?  thats awesome. thanks
[03:10] <moonunit> well, i want to be able to navigate to them via terminal, so i thik i need to mount them under /dev, correct?
[03:10] <PMantis> mateon, Oh, hangon... I renamed that dir too.
[03:10] <moonunit> intelikey, HDD ^
[03:10] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: stick to what is on that easysource page, the custom ones you added are probably listed there.  To replace your current one just do "gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' " and delete the contents, replace it with what the page gives you, then "sudo apt-get update"
[03:10] <moonunit> amphi ^
[03:10] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8922
[03:10] <Brumac> w00t installing ubunto for first time....im losing my ubuntu virginity
[03:10] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, on a wiki ATI page.. it gave me a repository to add.. youll see it at the bottom its the last one. do i have to go back and readd  them again like the wine repository?
[03:11] <dabaR> nice
[03:11] <intelikey> moonunit mount under dev  lol  no.      mount /dev/hd?# /mountpoint
[03:11] <cdsboy> hey is there anyone here who can help me get my external disk drive to work?
[03:11] <dabaR> thats seveas, that'll work, or not.
[03:11] <amphi> hey, OmegaAlpha
[03:11] <intelikey> moonunit man mount
[03:11] <Mordof> ok, when i run warcraft 3 i run..   cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/; wine war3.exe -opengl         how do i make this run in a panel object so i can just click on it to run warcraft 3?
[03:11] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: was it you told me about stellarium?
[03:11] <moonunit> intelikey, well im not certan what my drives names are
[03:11] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, thanks buddy i appreciate your time
[03:11] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, yes sir
[03:11] <Brumac> do I use Ext2 file system on the partition....I'm having it dual boot with XP
[03:11] <fr500> Mordof: you can make a shell script for that and then add a launcher for that
[03:11] <dabaR> Mordof: just add a custom launcher...
[03:11] <intelikey> moonunit fdisk -l /hd*
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i got it working finally...
[03:12] <PMantis> mateon, OK! Error gone.
[03:12] <Smeggy> anyone?
[03:12] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:12] <mateon> PMantis: yay!
[03:12] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: i just built the current version, very nice
[03:12] <PMantis> mateon, I just need to make sure it didn't pooch my ldap database, but THANK YOU!!
[03:12] <dabaR> Smeggy: we3 don;t own one...
[03:12] <rewt_> Anyone have any luck getting wine in 64 bit?
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, what do you mean built?
[03:12] <cdsboy> is anyone willing to help me with my external drive problems?
[03:12] <mister_roboto> Nogimics: I thought you might be running a different terminal type in your configuration and that could be disallowing the colors (echo $TERM) when logged on. I have no idea, just guess
[03:12] <PMantis> mateon, Go have that smoke, on me.
[03:12] <PMantis> lol
[03:12] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: from src
[03:12] <intelikey> moonunit that assumes ide....  if scsi or usb  use   fdisk -l /dev/sd*
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, isnt it cool!its real time too!
[03:12] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: did you fix it?
[03:12] <meepy> How do I install GTK-Engines-2.7.3 or higher?
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, fix what?
[03:12] <moonunit> intelikey, there all ide.
[03:12] <Smeggy> dabaR, someone must know though ;)
[03:13] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: yeah, it is most excellent, thanks
[03:13] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: I have never seen _so_ many crazy sources.
[03:13] <purpleidea> mustard5: i've been using the 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[03:13] <dabaR> Smeggy: what did you ask?
[03:13] <Mordof> dabaR, that command doesn't work, says cd is wrong
[03:13] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: did you get dri working for you?
[03:13] <cdsboy> has or does anyone run ubuntu off a external drive here?
[03:13] <Brumac> dual booting XP and Ubunto...do I select Ex2 file system on the partition I want Ubunto on?
[03:13] <Smeggy> can anyone tell me how well the fan system is supported in Apple dual processor (NOT dual core) G5s?
[03:13] <dabaR> Mordof: in a custom launcher? put it in quotes.
[03:14] <moonunit> intelikey, not helping man.
[03:14] <intelikey> meepy search synaptic or apt-cache search gtk
[03:14] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, hehe have no idea what happened... i have probs with my ATI vid card and i had to add a reposit to try to fix it.. it worked fine yesterday..
[03:14] <Mordof> no such directory
[03:14] <LjL> dabaR: cd is a bash command, it's not a real file in /bin
[03:14] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i believe so.. but i have another problem... direct rendering...
[03:14] <dabaR> LjL: I never read what he wrote.
[03:14] <Mordof> fr500, how do i make a shell script for this?
[03:14] <LjL> dabaR: :)
[03:14] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, i have no idead what happened to the sources... im still new to linux.. only been using it for about a week not even
[03:15] <voice> quick question
[03:15] <mustard5> purpleidea, I'm just curious whether your linux-restricted-module for that kernel version is installed
[03:15] <LjL> Mordof: what about just using "wine /home/you/.wine/whatever" instead of the cd thing?
[03:15] <dabaR> "/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/; wine war3.exe
[03:15] <dabaR> pah
[03:15] <voice> what would make the ubuntu installer completely ignore the current partiton table?
[03:15] <Heathen_> Is there an option to make files show up on one's bottom panel in gnome?  I don't know if I accidentally switched it off, but all I have on the bottom panel right now is my trashcan
[03:15] <cdsboy> help anyone????
[03:15] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: still? damn
[03:15] <intelikey> moonunit well that's nice.    you don't know where your drives are if fdisk -l  can't help you find them, then i doubt i can either.
[03:15] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im finally in Ubuntu  :D
[03:15] <frazmanw> anyone running Dapper: are there repositories I should add for restricted stuff? mp3 dvd etc? and any multiverse type stuff???
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[03:15] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:15] <theonyxdragoon> using windows 98, how do i reboot the computer so it's priority drive is the CD-ROM?  sorry, i just can't seem to figure it out on my laptop
[03:15] <farous> !anybody
[03:15] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> theonyxdragoon,  its a bios setting.
[03:16] <crimsun> !info libgtk2.0-0
[03:16] <dabaR> LjL: "/home/mordof/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/wine\ war3.exe"?
[03:16] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: (The GTK+ graphical user interface library), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2004 kB, Installed size: 4476 kB
[03:16] <purpleidea> mustard5: it seems to be, yes. v: <IP_ADDRESS>-11.1 of the restricted module
[03:16] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, yeah i fixed the GLX extension prob but now i dont know how to enabledirect rendering
[03:16] <crimsun> !info libgtk2.0-0 dapper
[03:16] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: (The GTK+ graphical user interface library), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.11-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2022 kB, Installed size: 4496 kB
[03:16] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, i have no idea that must e somethign wine did
[03:16] <LjL> theonyxdragoon: that's not an OS issue (i.e. nothing to do with Win98), you have to look in the BIOS
[03:16] <cdsboy> can someone help me with getting my external usb drive to boot
[03:16] <dabaR> it's all in dapper
[03:16] <LjL> dabaR: no, "wine /home/mordof/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/wine\ war3.exe"'
[03:16] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, i guess wine added those to run those programs.. heh i dont even remember installing warcraft
[03:16] <theonyxdragoon> ok, thanks you guys
[03:17] <mustard5> purpleidea, I'm not sure of the implications of the version numbers being different
[03:17] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: glxinfo | grep rendering still says no?
[03:17] <corvax> congrats keith
[03:17] <corvax> heh
[03:17] <Mordof> LjL, entirely in quotes?
[03:17] <LjL> Mordof: not sure. don't think
[03:17] <Mordof> what about the -opengl
[03:17] <mustard5> purpleidea, I would have thought there was a version that matched your current kernel version...but I might be wrong
[03:17] <voice> anyone?
[03:17] <LjL> Mordof: just add it at the end.
[03:17] <dabaR> voice: ignore in what way?
[03:18] <eternaljoy> hi
[03:18] <Mordof> LjL, it doesn't open anything up when i do that
[03:18] <intelikey> moonunit did you run  fdisk -l /dev/hd?    so see if there were any partitions listed ?    also is /proc mounted ?         and     mount    should list ecerything that is mounted.
[03:18] <taylor_> how do i format my usb hardrive
[03:18] <taylor_> without using the install disc
[03:18] <LjL> Mordof: try running that command from a shell first
[03:18] <LjL> taylor_: "man mkfs"
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> taylor_,  format it to do what?
[03:18] <voice> like, it ignores the fact that there is a 70GB ntfs partiton and 2 5GB ext3 partitons
[03:18] <taylor_> to be blank