[12:47] <dognews> ActionParsnip: yeah, otherwiese it would seem a bit strange, that I can see my wireless accesspoint in knetworkmanager
[12:48] <dognews> ActionParsnip: no, but it worked out of the box with my old kubuntu 7.10 machine
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> dognews, weird. you could manually set it up in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:52] <enry> hi
[12:53] <TheFuzzball> does anyone know how well Kubunt would use a Quad-Core?
[12:53] <TheFuzzball> Kubuntu*
[12:53] <flaccid> you don't want to set it up in /etc/network/interfaces particularly if its wireless
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> TheFuzzball, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lcv_l7Y73o&feature=related
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, its how i did mine :)
[12:54] <dognews> flaccid ActionParsnip: there is another method to setting up my wireless by hand with getting nice error reports?
[12:55] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: thats cool if you don't use wpa but if you secure it then yeah...
[12:55] <flaccid> knetworkmangager is set for user network and the only thing required in interfaces is localhost.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, ive got wep, hidden ssid and mac filtering so i'm ok
[12:57] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: true, thats not too bad
[12:57] <TheFuzzball> ActionParsnip: interesting but I think a lot of that video has to do with the Graphics Card too
[12:57] <flaccid> even though wep is like dead now and crackbalbe
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, well you gotta guess my SSID first :D
[12:58] <flaccid> ok is it PARSNIP ?
[12:59] <flaccid> i want some parnsip soup!
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> its not even a word
[12:59] <flaccid> oh , is it )&(&&(*
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> something like that yes
[12:59] <flaccid> oh
[12:59] <flaccid> why don't you upgrade the wireless router to use wpa ?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> it is a wireless linksys router
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> wep is fine for me
[13:00] <posingaspopular> offtopic guys. but i look down on wep and embrace wpa2 myself
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> does the job for me :)
[13:01] <flaccid> wep is crackable and deprecated by wpa..
[13:01] <flaccid> well security is important to kubuntu users im sure so its quite on topic
[13:01] <flaccid> yes wpa2 and my linksys does it
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> true enough but even then the ssid is hidden, is non english and i'm mac filtering. also, only my laptop is allowed to configure the router
[13:02] <llutz> ActionParsnip: run kismet for 5 minutes and you'll see your "hidden" ssid
[13:02] <llutz> ActionParsnip: MACs are easily spoofed
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> its still a lot of work
[13:02] <flaccid> they can still get in hehe, there is stuff on this on thet net
[13:03] <flaccid> its less work than you think but
[13:03] <llutz> ActionParsnip: WEP... lol, als flaccid said. it takes shorter than a cigarette to break into your wlan :)
[13:03] <flaccid> wep can be cracked in less than 10secs
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> i dont think the average joe is to bothered
[13:03]  * ScorpKing greets everyone..
[13:03] <jussi01> and we are way offtopic again...
[13:03] <flaccid> the average joe has programs or scripts to do it for them, they don't nee to bother
[13:03] <flaccid> jussi01: securing your kubuntu is important
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> well i'm happy with it
[13:03] <llutz> jussi01: that affects *buntu users too
[13:03] <posingaspopular> the average joe isn't trying to break into ActionParsnip's lan
[13:04] <posingaspopular> but this isnt a networking chan
[13:04] <llutz> posingaspopular: after having read this, they will! :)
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> if i scan for wireless i get 8 lans so i'd say everyone has a connection
[13:04] <flaccid> posingaspopular: networking relates entirely. many people are breaking wep no problem, you can't assume, you know nothing about his WLAN
[13:05] <flaccid> anyone that runs wep still is asking for it basically..
[13:05] <flaccid> even with mac filtering and hidden ssid
[13:05] <llutz> it's important to show people how pointless hidden Essids, MAC-filtering and WEP is
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> im ok with it. i'm not that paranoid
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> im not saying its invincible or good but its ok and better than nothing
[13:06] <flaccid> thats what the last person said before they got hacked..
[13:06] <jussi01> Guys, I know you think it relates, but this is for support questions. If you are answering or asking a question, great, please take other discussion into #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:06] <fritz_> good morning
[13:07] <flaccid> networking is a part of support yes
[13:07] <flaccid> networking comes with ubuntu
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, whats to hack. I casually browse the web and listen to music
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> hack me all you want
[13:07] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: thats not the point.
[13:07] <fritz_> how do I install new fonts in 7.10?
[13:07] <jussi01> !fonts | flaccid
[13:07] <ubotu> flaccid: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[13:07] <jussi01> !fonts | fritz_
[13:07] <ubotu> fritz_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> its my point though.  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> pretty much
[13:08] <flaccid> hahah
[13:08] <flaccid> you may not like it if it occurs
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> why what would i lose
[13:09] <flaccid> i don't know, i can't predict the future
[13:09] <flaccid> i also don't know about your LAN..
[13:10] <flaccid> most people don't ask to be violated, but try to avoid it
[13:10] <ardchoille> This discussion is ot, please take it to another channel. Last warning.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ok i'm done
[13:10] <flaccid> ardchoille: kubuntu does not use networking or wireless?
[13:10] <flaccid> it did last time i checked
[13:10] <jussi01> flaccid: thats not the point.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, dude its done we both know what each other is saying
[13:10] <flaccid> jussi01: then what is the point. the scope of the topic is ambiguous and wide
[13:11] <ScorpKing> flaccid: ot is ot. period
[13:11] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: yeah but technically we are not off topic
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> yeah but its still done
[13:11] <flaccid> ScorpKing: where is this defined. off topic
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> im saying im happy with what i got and you disagree
[13:11] <flaccid> i'd like to read about what is on topic and what is not thanks
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> !offtopic
[13:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:12] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: i only disagree from a security respect
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, and i acept the disagreement
[13:12] <flaccid> sweet, we are done.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> flaccid, i kept saying this
[13:12] <flaccid> ardchoille: where can i read about what is on topic and what is not, because its not really clear if you ask me
[13:13] <ScottG> if no one is asking/answering a support question it's off topic
[13:13] <flaccid> ok so i was on topic
[13:13] <flaccid> sweet.
[13:13] <flaccid> ScottG: URL for that please.
[13:13] <ScottG> ActionParsnip stopped "asking" a long time ago
[13:14] <ScottG> all the ops (who deop themselves) are saying it, isn't that good enough?
[13:14]  * ActionParsnip sups coffee
[13:14] <flaccid> no, its not good making a claim if you can't back it up. im happy to keep on topic and rules if they can be cited.
[13:15] <ScorpKing> !guidelines > flaccid
[13:15] <ScottG> ok, you aren't listening and I'm not going to add to the madness, get yourself kicked, I don't care..
[13:15] <flaccid> ScorpKing: specifically please
[13:15] <flaccid> which part of the guielines please
[13:16] <ScorpKing> read it all
[13:16] <flaccid> i have probably about 20 times in the past
[13:16] <ScorpKing> Don't be annoying is in there
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> !guidelines
[13:16] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:16] <flaccid> ScorpKing: what specifically am i breaching that
[13:17] <ardchoille> flaccid: This is not the place for this. Please join #ubuntu-ops and continue this there.
[13:17]  * ScorpKing decides to rather keep quiet..
[13:17] <flaccid> ardchoille: i'll be right thanks. if nobody can answer then i guess there isn't one.
[13:17] <ardchoille> !nickspam | posingaspopular
[13:17] <ubotu> posingaspopular: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[13:17] <posingaspopular> oops sorry ardchoille
[13:17] <posingaspopular> i forget people can see that stuff since i have it on 'hide'
[13:18] <flaccid> ardchoille: if i was to be as harsh as you, i would be telling off alot of people in this channel , daily
[13:19] <jussi01> flaccid: please join #ubuntu-ops if you would like to speak to the ops about policy - lets keep this channel for helping people with Kubuntu problems.
[13:20] <noaXess> i have in input pen/scanner.. on windows i can scan some numbers or text in one line.. handy tool..
[13:20] <noaXess> anybody knwo about some app in kde to use this input pen?
[13:21] <flaccid> jussi01: are you an operator?
[13:21] <jussi01> flaccid: thats correct
[13:22] <flaccid> jussi01: ok i have done what you said
[13:28] <noaXess> jussi01: have you any idea or experience with an unpit pen for scanning single text lines?
[13:28] <jussi01> noaXess: no, I havent sorry.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, what make / model is it?
[13:31] <ScorpKing> i need to buy a flatbed scanner that will work well under linux. any suggestions?
[13:32] <jussi01> ScorpKing: I have a canon n670U which works perfectly
[13:32] <ScorpKing> thanks. will see if i can find one.
[13:33] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: c-channel
[13:33] <noaXess> c tecnologies ab (publ)
[13:33] <noaXess> c technologies ab (publ).. they don't have anything for linux
[13:34] <noaXess> i think it a pen that only reads the text as image and a the c-channel software under windows makes the ocr
[13:36] <tuxick> ScorpKing: canon lide25
[13:36] <tuxick> dirt cheap and works great
[13:36] <tuxick> no power adapter needed
[13:37]  * ScorpKing is on the phone with canon..
[13:37] <jussi01> ScorpKing: just dont buy their printers...
[13:37] <tuxick> feh
[13:37] <ScorpKing> i know. hehe
[13:38] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: I always consult this page before buying hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:38] <tuxick> still trouble with that klog not starting
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, just checking now
[13:38] <tuxick> but it does know ldap users now
[13:38] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: okay.. thanks.. me too.. searching around
[13:38] <ScorpKing> thanks ardchoille
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4421/1/
[13:39] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: yw
[13:41] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: thanks but that i found before and this works only for infrared pen's
[13:41] <ScorpKing> heh. canon isn't too cheap though. :(
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, what happens when you plug it in?
[13:43] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: i will be recognized us inout pen c technologies..
[13:43] <noaXess> err.. input pen
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, ok then how do you use it. do you access it like a hard drive in windows?
[13:44] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: no.. like a pen :) on windows i need to install the software from c-channel that makes the ocr..
[13:45] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: the input pen itself send an image of the scanned text and the c-channel software makes the ocr
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> so you need the pen attached to the pc and then scan the text?
[13:45] <flaccid> !off-topic | ActionParsnip
[13:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:45] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: jep..
[13:45] <flaccid> !offtopic | ActionParsnip
[13:45] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, ok cool. i'd try gimp then and treat it like a scanner (maybe, absolute guess)
[13:48] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: sane-find-scanner finds the input pen on libusb:002:011
[13:49] <se7en_> !krename
[13:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krename - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:49] <ardchoille> se7en_: Try !info krename
[13:50] <se7en_> !info krename
[13:50] <ubotu> krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.14-1 (gutsy), package size 332 kB, installed size 1288 kB
[13:50] <se7en_> :(
[13:50] <se7en_> :)
[13:50] <ardchoille> se7en_: Use "!info package" when seeking info about a package
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, give it a go man :)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, looks promising
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, any good??
[13:57] <dognews> Action Parsnip flaccid: hm... finally it works now. it seems that I just had a wrong password, which is quite impossible, as I checked it many times before I asked you, but I'm glad it does work now. Maybe it was because of some packages I installed... thanks for your help, anyway :)
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> dognews, what were we helping with? I forget
[13:58] <flaccid> np
[13:58] <flaccid> not that my help is appreciated by the ubuntu team, but thats cool :)
[13:59] <dognews> ActionParsnip: wireless lan didn't work properly on my new kubuntu 7.10 machine
[13:59] <dognews> flaccid: lol
[14:00] <flaccid> dognews: what out your lol could be off-topic!
[14:00] <ScorpKing> have fun guys. laters..
[14:01] <flaccid> what=watch
[14:01] <dognews> flaccid: rofl
[14:01] <flaccid> im not sure if laughing is within the kubuntu support scope :p
[14:02] <ardchoille> flaccid: Those comments are not necessary
[14:02] <flaccid> yea and neither was giving me the 3rd degree
[14:02]  * flaccid waits
[14:03] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: sorry was playing with my kid :)
[14:07] <xtas> Hello everyone! I was just wondering can anyone help me to change resolution on Ubuntu + KDE
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, no worries :)
[14:08] <ScottG> xtas: that's an easy one
[14:08] <ScottG> not sure why everyone's not jumping at it :)
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !resolution
[14:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:09] <xtas> hmmm
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> xtas, is your res to low?
[14:10] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: if sane recognizes my input pen.. now i need only a driver to communicate with it.. are there some drver developpers? :)
[14:10] <noaXess> err.. developers...
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, I think you can tell your system to "scan" then move the pen over the text
[14:11] <xtas> ActionParsnip: its now 1024x768 and my screens native resolution is 1280x1024
[14:11] <xtas> a bit blurry
[14:11] <RickX> does anyone know how to remove a kde style?
[14:11] <tuxick> \o/ found it
[14:11] <tuxick> a documented bug
[14:11] <tuxick> in udev
[14:11] <blekos> hello, i type this in order to take a full backup tar cvpzf /backup/backup.tgz -exclude=/lost+found/ -exclude=/mnt/ -exclude=/sys -exclude=/dev/ -exlude=/backup/ -exclude=/media/
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> xtas, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:12] <blekos> but i get the message tar:invalid option --e
[14:12] <blekos> could you help me pls?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> blekos, http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?tar there is no --e option
[14:13] <se7en_> blekos: did you write -exclude or --exclude
[14:13] <blekos> -exclude
[14:13] <noaXess> --exclude
[14:13] <noaXess> blekos: see man tar
[14:14] <noaXess> --exclude=PATTERN
[14:14] <se7en_> blekos: thats why --exclude should work
[14:14] <xtas> ActionParsnip: okay. what after that
[14:15] <blekos> ok thnx
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> xtas, change nothing except when you get to the resolution bit then add what you want.
[14:16] <xtas> did so
[14:16] <xtas> now I need to restart X?
[14:16] <xtas> ctrl alt backspace?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> yeah should be ok
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> xtas, or restart pc, your call
[14:17] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: my problem with opening apps.. that they will be open twice but only one will com up.. i think it's only if i run any app with root rights.. eg. adept_manager...
[14:18] <xtas> Okay no help.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, have you maybe been running KDE apps with sudo?
[14:18] <xtas> Where can I find any place to  try to change the res
[14:18] <Tm_T> !resolution | xtas
[14:18] <ubotu> xtas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:19] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: yes.. and the adept_manager will automaticlyy promt for my password..
[14:19] <Tm_T> !patience | xtas
[14:19] <ubotu> xtas: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:19] <nick__> Hey everyone, I have a k3b question.  I want to burn an audio cd from mp3s but whenever I try to drag them to the audio cd project it says that they have to be converted to wav before they can be burnt.  Is k3b not capable of doing the conversion for me and keeping them in a temp folder?
[14:19] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: after the first one.. if i open it later, it would be opend twice..
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xtas, you should now be able to select the res you want
[14:19] <xtas> heh. sure sorry bout being so anxious. this is just getting me insane ;)
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xtas, what graphics card do you have?
[14:19] <Tm_T> xtas: no problems, just wanted to point out :)
[14:20] <xtas> ActionParsnip: but where should I be able to change it? I find no place for it. Geforce 6800
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> xtas, try this lot. You've done most of it already http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/cant-change-resolution-kubuntukde-535107/
[14:22] <xtas> I've used fedora, suse and mandrive back in the days and there were no probs with resolution. So it kinda hit me hard when I've heard everyone saying Ubuntu is good and easy and everything nice but so basic thing can be this hard, huh :)
[14:22] <xtas> actually, I think after restarting X resolution is even more smaller
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> xtas, you just have a res that all card can show. just a bit of tweaking (btw Mandrake is where I started and wasnt bad at all :))
[14:23] <xtas> hehe
[14:24] <xtas> hmm. I cant find that 'Display' place in my control panel
[14:24] <xtas> or anywhere here in kde
[14:24] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: for my input pen.. i have a solution.. use it with virtualbox and an virtual windows :)
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, its a workaround. I'd keep looking for a solution though :)
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> xtas, run kcontrol
[14:26] <xtas> There is no display either
[14:27] <se7en_> monitor abd
[14:27] <se7en_> monitor and display in kcontrol and system settings xtas
[14:28] <xtas> theres no such thing
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> xtas, run displayconfig
[14:30] <xtas> now I got the "screen resize & rotate" button next to clock. but 800x600 is still the highest
[14:31] <xtas> xtas@xtas-desktop:~$ displayconfig
[14:31] <xtas> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[14:33] <xtas> I'll boot X once more.
[14:34] <xtas> Yes
[14:34] <xtas> now it works
[14:35] <jhutchins_wk> xtas: Your xorg.conf is not correct, and possibly you have the wrong driver for your card.
[14:35] <xtas> Now I have bigger res.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> xtas, all fine and dandy?
[14:35] <jhutchins_wk> xtas: Fixed now?
[14:35] <xtas> I guess so. I needed to "identify" my gfx card and display and now it works
[14:35] <xtas> I mean put the right model etc
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> xtas, sweet as. you can use ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt-- to switch between the
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> *available* resolutions.
[14:36] <xtas> Ye
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> xtas, personally i woudnt bother now
[14:36] <xtas> Thanks for the help mates
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> xtas, no worries duder
[14:36] <xtas> :)
[14:36] <xtas> now to shop to get some food
[14:38] <vbgunz_> anybody know where I can post an 8kb gzipped archive for sharing?
[14:38] <vbgunz_> am trying to make a post on kubuntuforums but it doesn't accept gzipped archives
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz, http://myfreefilehosting.com/
[14:39] <nick__> Hey everyone, I have a k3b question.  I want to burn an audio cd from mp3s but whenever I try to drag them to the audio cd project it says that they have to be converted to wav before they can be burnt.  Is k3b not capable of doing the conversion for me and keeping them in a temp folder?
[14:39] <tzd> Hey people! Can anyone tell me if it's possible to upgrade Amarok v.1.4.7 to 1.4.8 without losing settings, scripts etc?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> nick__, http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/10/how-to-burn-and-normalize-mp3-to-audio-cd-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[14:41] <nick__> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but does that change the nature of the original mp3?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> tzd, afaik you only upgrade the app. the settings will be in ~/.amarok and should be preserved
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> nick__, should just make it usable. afaik it makes new files but just claw a copy of the mp3s to a folder to work with. I'll try find something more graceful
[14:42] <tzd> ActionParsnip: great, just what i wanted to hear :) Thanks a bunch mate!
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> nick__, k3b-mp3 is a plugin for k3b
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> nick__, if you sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[14:44] <tzd> oh one more question... does the Amarok team have an irc channel?
[14:44] <Jucato> !info libk3b2-mp3
[14:44] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 43 kB, installed size 116 kB
[14:45] <Jucato> nick__: you need that one ^^^
[14:45] <Jucato> tzd: #amarok
[14:45] <tzd> gr8 thanks :)
[14:46] <blekos> hi  i tried to make a backup with tar but before the end of the process i get the message "segmentation fault"
[14:47] <jabberlabba> hi
[14:49] <vbgunz_> anyone of something like rapidshare, something like a pastebin, something quick I can post an 8kb archive too?
[14:49] <giuseppe> Hi, I inserted in etc/fstab this string "//servername/sharename /media/mountname cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode 0 0"
[14:50] <giuseppe> and when I try to mount net it says: permission denied
[14:50] <giuseppe> why????
[14:50] <tuxick> after selecting "console login" in kdm dialog, how am i supposed to return to kdm?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, startx
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> probably
[14:51] <tuxick> that doesn't make sense
[14:51] <tuxick> maybe as root then ;p
[14:51] <Pici> you could do 'sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart'
[14:52] <tuxick> yeah that sounds saner
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe, I think you have to put usernames / password
[14:52] <tuxick> schweet
[14:52] <tuxick> ldap auth working fine, /home automounted
[14:52] <giuseppe> ActionParsnip: but which username/password?
[14:53] <helge> Hi, I have a brand new AMD 64 6ghz with a new install of gutsy 64. I don't get flash to work in firefox and I wonder if it is possible at all?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe, the account on the remote computer that gives you access
[14:54] <giuseppe> ActionParsnip: ok, I believed it was without password, now I check
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> helge, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[14:54] <tuxick> it just fails to find group name belonging to ID
[14:54] <helge> thx
[14:57] <noaXess> so back..
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> peace out brethryns
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> home time now :)
[14:58] <blekos> any idea what is segmantation fault?
[14:59] <jpatrick> blekos: when a program tries to access a part of the memory it doesn't have the right too
[15:00] <blekos> i did sudo su and run a tar command
[15:01] <jpatrick> blekos: sudo -s is better (safer at least) and does sudo tar not cut it?
[15:01] <blekos> but i get an error "segmenation fault" after a few files
[15:01] <noaXess> what does kubuntu users here use as prefering harddisk check tool?
[15:01] <jpatrick> I don't see why you want to run that as root eitehr
[15:01] <jpatrick> noaXess: fsck?
[15:01] <noaXess> :)
[15:01] <noaXess> jpatrick: :)
[15:02] <blekos> i write sudo tar cvpzf /backup/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc/ --exclude=/lost+found/ --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/sys/ / --exclude=/dev/ --exclude=/backup --exclude=/media
[15:02] <blekos> and get this
[15:02] <jpatrick> !paste | blekos
[15:02] <ubotu> blekos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:02] <jpatrick> (just in case)
[15:03] <blekos> ... ... ...
[15:03] <blekos> /sys/kernel/security/tpm0/
[15:03] <blekos> Segmentation fault
[15:03] <jpatrick> blekos: I don't see why you want to run that as root tho
[15:04] <blekos> i just follow a tutorial, the thing is why i get the segmentation fault :(
[15:04] <blekos> which does not allow the tar process to complete its job
[15:04] <jpatrick> it's trying to access the kernel/security/ part I guess
[15:05] <noaXess> jpatrick: i the simples check a harddisk fsck -n to show whats wrong with the hd?
[15:06] <jpatrick> noaXess: should work, I've never run it myself
[15:06] <sakthian> how can i lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[15:06] <noaXess> jpatrick: i nee also a tool to check if there is a hardware error..
[15:06] <jpatrick> oh, wait I have once
[15:06] <noaXess> jpatrick: i used bevore testdisk.. you know?
[15:06] <llutz> noaXess: badblocks
[15:06] <jpatrick> noaXess: I haven't, sorry
[15:08] <blekos> hmm i got errors
[15:08] <blekos> how i can fix them
[15:09] <sakthian> pls tell some procedure to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[15:10] <Jucato> to lock? or unlock?
[15:11] <smax> hi
[15:11] <sakthian> to lock
[15:11] <Jucato> hm.. not sure if that's normally possible... why would you want to lock it?
[15:11] <blekos> i run fsck and have a few errors
[15:11] <Jucato> (or you can leave Adept Manager or Installer running to lock it)
[15:12] <smax> i want to get involved in PHP devel on my PC.  should i install mysql-server or the module for PHP ?
[15:12] <blekos> if i run fsck -y it says it can cause severe damage
[15:12] <blekos> what should i do?
[15:12] <noaXess> how to force a fsck of a spec. device on next reboot?
[15:12] <blekos> yes
[15:14] <blekos> can i somehow schedule and fschk on next rebot?
[15:14] <noaXess> blekos: same quest as mine..
[15:14] <noaXess> :)
[15:14] <blekos> o sorry :)
[15:15] <llutz> blekos: sudo touch/forcefsck
[15:16] <llutz> blekos: sudo touch /forcefsck          sry, will force fsck next reboot
[15:16] <noaXess> llutz: just add the little file forcefsck to the root dir?
[15:16] <llutz> noaXess: thats the trick :)
[15:17] <noaXess> llutz: and how to specify a device eg. /dev/sda1
[15:17] <noaXess> !fsck
[15:17] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[15:18] <llutz> noaXess: not sure, try to create that file on that device.
[15:20] <llutz> noaXess: but if it isn't your /-FS, you always can check it after umounting
[15:20] <noaXess> llutz: it is my root fs :)
[15:20] <llutz> noaXess: umount just won't work with /
[15:21] <llutz> noaXess:  then: sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:21] <noaXess> llutz: ok.. i do it now :)
[15:21] <noaXess> until later..
[15:22] <noaXess> llutz: do you know a trick to see the boot process and not the kubuntu logo.. is there any key trick?
[15:23] <dwidmann> noaXess: remove the splash option from the kernel line in the menu.lst file and you'll see the boot process just fine ..... taking off the quiet option should help too
[15:23] <helge> It seems Kubuntu 64 didn't quite work out for me on my new AMD 6 ghz computer, can I install 32 bit Kubuntu? Will I loose out on stuff?
[15:24] <dwidmann> helge: depends if you put /home on a seperate partition or not
[15:24] <llutz> noaXess: boot with "nosplash" and delete the "quiet" option in grub
[15:24] <helge> I didnt mean files and such, I was more thinking processor power and so on
[15:24] <llutz> noaXess: mabe it needs setting vga=normal
[15:25] <dwidmann> helge: Well, some processing power yes .... what exactly hadn't worked out anyhow?
[15:25] <noaXess> llutz: what menas vga=normal? what resolution?
[15:25] <helge> I cannot get flash to work, I gave it a good shot but I came back empty there. I do need flash...
[15:26] <llutz> 80x25, no framebuffer
[15:26] <dwidmann> helge: works fine for me .... which browser are you using it in?
[15:27] <helge> Firefox, I also have swiftweasel 32 bit
[15:28] <noaXess> llutz: are there other options for vga=? i know that vga=0x317 is a resolution of 1024x768... but 1680x1050 will be nice :)
[15:28] <dwidmann> helge: should be easy to get it to work in either really. Easiest way is to be running Gutsy and running "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree", which happens to pull in and properly setup nspluginwrapper also.
[15:29] <llutz> noaXess: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#
[15:30] <helge> I have done so and I also tried some tip I got earlier on a more manual install. It works a little bit but crashes one second into the movie.
[15:30] <giuseppe> ac
[15:30] <dwidmann> helge: That's strange ...
[15:30] <helge> Shoul i restart x?
[15:31] <dwidmann> helge: Shouldn't really need to ... at least I can't think of any reason why that would be required. Have you tried it in any other browsers (ie: konqueror, opera, etc)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> howdy folks  :-)
[15:31] <blekos> could you please give me again the command for forcing a check and repair during next boot?
[15:31] <dwidmann> Hi Blues
[15:32] <BluesKaj> hi dwidmann
[15:32] <helge> konqueror says I have to install but it didnt get me anywhere... But if it isn't to much of a deal I would be fine with 32-bit (as far as I know)
[15:32] <helge> 32-bit kubuntu gutsy I mean
[15:33] <dwidmann> helge: I really do think that it'd probably be faster to fix the Flash problem though ....
[15:33] <helge> ok
[15:33] <helge> I did this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[15:34] <dwidmann> helge, okay, one sec while I look at that then
[15:35] <BluesKaj> helge, try this as well, it might work  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[15:35] <helge> ok
[15:40] <mustafa> arkadaşlar bana türkçe yardım edebilecek biri var mı
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !tk | mustafa
[15:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !ty
[15:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !tr | mustafa
[15:41] <ubotu> mustafa: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[15:44] <mustafa> BluesKaj: teşekkürler kusura bakma daha yeni kurdum yardım lazımdı
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !en | mustafa
[15:47] <ubotu> mustafa: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:51] <helge> Bluskaj , Still no luck for me. I have been using kubuntu since Dapper and I haven't had much trouble like this before
[15:52] <BluesKaj> just falsh helge ?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> err flash
[15:52] <dwidmann> According to what I read in the page Blueskaj just linked you to, it looks like Flash may not be working in Konqueror at all, and not in any version of Opera below 9.5B2 ... piece of crud Flash !@#$!@#$#
[15:53] <dwidmann> I've yet to test that statement though
[15:53] <dwidmann> so I'm taking it with a few grains of salt ...
[15:54] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, i'm using flash in konq with no probs but I think it's cuz i installed the older plugin , which is no longer available AFAIK ...lemme check
[15:55] <BluesKaj> <--64 bit amd
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Opera flash doesn't work at all on 64 bit
[15:55] <dwidmann> <--also 64-bit AMD
[15:55] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: not quite true, then again, I'm using 9.5B2
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:56] <BluesKaj> roh , din't know that it would work ...static opera vers?
[15:57] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: no, 64-bit dynamic
[15:57] <helge> This is my first 64 bit though, and I have a new install, I am pretty certain that I will try 32-bit kubuntu to see if it is ok.
[15:58] <dwidmann> helge: see if flash works fine for you on the 32-bit live cd just to make sure there aren't any other problems holding things down.
[15:59] <helge> Sure I will, thanks for all the help. Much apreciated!!!
[16:00] <BluesKaj> flash works in opera 9.5 beta 2 ?
[16:00] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: yeah
[16:01] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: bear in mind Opera 9.5B2 isn't entirely stable though. The by far largest problem I've had with it is my settings and bookmarks disappearing every so often ..... strangely enough
[16:01] <BluesKaj> where did you get it ?
[16:01] <dwidmann> Umm, lemme find it again
[16:02] <BluesKaj> found beta1
[16:02] <dwidmann> I think it's here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/950b/final/en/x86_64/
[16:03] <dwidmann> Hmm, I kept going on about beta 2 when it's beta 1 ..... curse that page I read. Messing me up >:(
[16:03] <dwidmann> At any rate, it *IS* working in Beta 1.
[16:04] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, thx, wonder if the deb is the one to use?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> beta 1 eh , ok i'll check that out
[16:05] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: yep, should be the deb.
[16:05] <dwidmann> Just do keep your bookmarks backed up just in case.
[16:05] <dwidmann> I'm lucky I had a backup or two myself ...
[16:06] <BluesKaj> well, i'll experiment with it while keeping konq as my default ...altho konq seems to have slowed up a lot lately
[16:09] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: hehe, speed problems is one thing you definitelhy won't have with Opera :D
[16:10] <wesst> ciulpkit byby]
[16:13] <tuxick> what do i kill to keep kde from messing with my NIC?
[16:13] <combinio> how to make Kubuntu faster (e.g. like WinXP) ? i want to open different windows in much shorter time ? is this possible to renconfigure it somehow ? :}
[16:13] <tuxick> looks like that was ruining my ldap login/nfs mounted homedir
[16:13] <BluesKaj> oops , not rendering some pages correctly
[16:14] <dwidmann> combino .... turning off visual effects in essence making things more like fluxbox, should help ... best way to do it is kpersonalizer, but it's quite outdated in some senses, you'll soon see why if yo9u try it.
[16:14] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: or is it?
[16:14] <HS^> will it tae a long time to integrate kde4 in kubuntu?
[16:15] <HS^> by the way i didnt like the rc2 at all
[16:15] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: funny how those things work ... maybe it is what is actually rending them *correctly* (ie: unforgiving of hapless html mistakes)
[16:15] <dwidmann> HS^: it should be in in Ubuntu Hardy, but just not the default.
[16:16] <dwidmann> HS^: actually, it's more or less gettable now, even though it is still in the beta phases
[16:16] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, puts all the graphics and text in a list on the left side of the page
[16:16] <HS^> dwidmann,  i thought they will fix the menu etc
[16:16] <combinio> dwidmann: will try that now ;P ( i mean fluxbox installation ;) )
[16:16] <HS^> i didnt like the rc2
[16:16] <dwidmann> HS^: for all I know that might already be fixed
[16:17] <HS^> the kubuntu live cd... i dont know what sort of feedback you got from it
[16:17] <dwidmann> combinio: you can use fluxbox in kde instead of kwin if you want to, I forget how to go about it htough
[16:17] <dwidmann> HS^: I haven't played with it in a while really, though I still fire up some of the KDE4 games in my KDE3 session.
[16:20] <sfcmouse> hi   new user here.  wondering if anyone can help me get something that i can use for adobe
[16:21] <Dr_willis> 'for adobe' ?
[16:21] <sfcmouse> yes  i need adobe reader to access certain features from my bank
[16:22]  * Dr_willis was confused since adobe makes a lot of products. :)
[16:22] <sfcmouse> the only adobe reader i seen is one designed for windows
[16:22] <Dr_willis> adobe  has the acrobat reader program for linux.. but thats about all i know on the subject. sorry.
[16:22] <tuxick> the "Network settings" dialog "Administration mode" isn't working
[16:22] <tuxick> i can enter admin pass 100 times and i still end up without admin privs
[16:23] <sfcmouse> i think that is what i need.  any idea where i can get it
[16:23] <Dr_willis> tuxick,  ive seen other mention that bug.
[16:23] <Dr_willis> acroread - Adobe Reader - binary files
[16:23] <Dr_willis> !info acroread
[16:23] <Dr_willis> its in the repos.
[16:23] <tuxick> it's even worse
[16:23] <ubotu> Package acroread does not exist in gutsy
[16:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[16:23] <Dr_willis> Its in MY repos at least.. heh
[16:23] <tuxick> it does the same if i enter a wrong pass
[16:23] <sfcmouse> sorry to be so dumb but what is repos
[16:23] <Dr_willis> !repos
[16:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[16:23] <Dr_willis> i think the acroreader tool is in the medibuntu repos
[16:23]  * tuxick sighs
[16:23] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[16:23] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:24] <tuxick> i was hoping to use this for user desktops
[16:24] <tuxick> looks like it's not ready
[16:24] <Dr_willis> tuxick,  bugs happen..
[16:24] <tuxick> Dr_willis: i know, i run into dozens of them each week
[16:24] <jussi01> !pdf
[16:24] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[16:24] <Dr_willis> demand a refund.. or you could tr 'kde kcontrol'
[16:25] <tuxick> anyway i want to *stop* kde from messing with my network config
[16:25] <compilerwriter> Is there anyone who can talk me through sharing my printer on the kubuntu box with the entire network?  My wife would like to be able to print from her XP laptop again.
[16:25] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  install the samba package for a start.
[16:26] <dwidmann> tuxick: use "kdesudo kcmshell whatevermoduleitis", or perhaps "kdesudo kcontrol"
[16:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm administrator mode button works for me on  the KDE networking tool. It may be because i have it set wher the user dont have to sudo. :)
[16:26] <tuxick> finding out the module name is complicate already :)
[16:27] <tuxick> ah it shows in the dialog
[16:27] <sub[t]rnl> you shouldn't need samba if your only sharing your linux printer
[16:27] <sub[t]rnl> cups will work
[16:27] <dwidmann> sub[t]rnl: and it works well :)
[16:27] <Dr_willis> sub[t]rnl,  if you say so..  I alwyas got samba installed anyway as one of the first things i install.
[16:28] <Dr_willis> is cups still set where it wont share printers by default? or was that just in the older releases?
[16:28] <sub[t]rnl> I think its still where it wont share by default
[16:29] <Dr_willis> i rember some heated.. debates.. on the use of cups web interface. and  how ubuntu sort of locked it down.
[16:29] <Dr_willis> If you can call a flamefest a debate. :P
[16:29] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[16:29] <dhq> when is kde4 out
[16:30] <dhq> what is kubuntu hardy
[16:30] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[16:30] <ubotu> kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[16:30] <Jucato> dhq: Jan 11 I think. (see www.kde.org)
[16:30] <Dr_willis> !hardy
[16:30] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:31] <blekos> guys i need your help
[16:32] <blekos> i have created a file which constantly fsck-es my system and cannot login
[16:32] <blekos> i need to delete it, now i am in with a live cd but do not now how to mount my / partion so i can delete the specified file
[16:32] <blekos> could you give me instructions?
[16:33] <Dr_willis> you are refreing to the /force-fsck file or similer named?
[16:33] <blekos> yes?
[16:33] <blekos> i did a touch /forcefsck file
[16:33] <Dr_willis> in short.. 'sudo mount /dev/whateverthedrveis /media/SOMEDIRTHATMUSTEXIST
[16:33] <Dr_willis>  then cd to /media/SOMEDIRTHATMUSTEXIST and rm the file.
[16:34] <Dr_willis> if youa re on a live cd NOW you can just fsck the filesystem. if you wanted to
[16:34] <Dr_willis> That might remove the file in the first place
[16:34] <blekos> sorry but i am a newbie but somedirthatmust exist is ANY dir?
[16:34] <Dr_willis> Make it named whatever you want.
[16:35] <Dr_willis> You could just try 'fsck /dev/whateverthedeviceis'  (if you knwo the device name)
[16:35] <combinio> !openbox
[16:35] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReplaceMetacityWithOpenbox
[16:35] <combinio> !fluxbox
[16:35] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[16:35] <Dr_willis> !matchbox
[16:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matchbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:35] <Dr_willis> :(
[16:35] <blekos> yes i do the dev name
[16:36] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis now that I have samba installed what in blazes do I do with it?
[16:36] <blekos> i always get the error :
[16:36] <blekos> superblock last write time is in the future
[16:36] <compilerwriter> !samba
[16:36] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Well.. I normally make the linux users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNNAME'
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Then in theory if the samba service is started.. the windows box shoudl se eit and  be able to connect to its printer
[16:39] <Dr_willis> You may want to change the default workgroup name to match whatever the windows box  is using
[16:40] <blekos> how can i finde a file starting with force?
[16:41] <Dr_willis> the file name starts with force?
[16:41] <blekos> yes
[16:41] <Dr_willis> locate force | less
[16:41] <blekos> in /media/sda6
[16:41] <Dr_willis> cd /media/sda6
[16:41] <Dr_willis> then use find , is another way
[16:42] <Dr_willis> find /path/to/the/things pattern
[16:42] <Dr_willis> locate searches the system located database.
[16:42] <Dr_willis> But that may not have  sda6 indexed yet.
[16:43] <blekos> hmm
[16:43] <blekos> maybe locate is better
[16:43] <Dr_willis> locate can be much better.. BUT it has to be updated on a regular basis
[16:43] <sub[t]rnl> locate is handy for sure
[16:43] <Dr_willis> and its set by default i think to not index mountd filesystems in /media
[16:43] <Dr_willis> and it has some other exclusions
[16:44] <tech404> is there a channel made for kubuntu 64 support or is this the best place to ask?
[16:44] <Dr_willis> # paths which are pruned from updatedb database
[16:44] <Dr_willis> PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"
[16:44] <sub[t]rnl> find / -name 'force*' -print oooorr locate force
[16:44] <sub[t]rnl> take your pick
[16:44] <Dr_willis> whats /alex anyway? ive never heard of that one...
[16:51] <combinio> do u know how to make kwim shortcuts work under OpenBox ??
[16:51] <blekos> i have used this site to create the forcefsck file http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[16:51] <combinio> i mean system shortcuts like minimize, close, etc.
[16:51] <blekos> i have mounted the partitions but now i cannot locate
[16:51] <blekos> do you have any idea where should it be?
[16:54] <mani213> my package manager keeps giving me errors
[16:54] <mani213> like There was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.
[16:55] <mani213> how do i fix that
[16:55] <mani213> ?
[16:55] <ubuntu> hey everyone, I just got the tiny little problem that my PC tells me that the partition table is invalid each time I try to boot any of my harddisks. Is there some way to fix this? I already tried to write the partition table to the disk againt with fdisk but that doesn't seem to have done the trick...
[16:55] <jussi01> mani213: try: sudo apt-get -f
[16:56] <mani213> what do i type in after?
[16:58] <icewaterman> where do i find the trash folder with kubuntu?
[16:59] <icewaterman> i moved something to trash and now i cannot empty the trash (deleted files will therefore remain and i cannot delete them)
[16:59] <jussi01> icewaterman: iirc .trash in your home folder.
[17:00] <icewaterman> jussi01: there is no such folder
[17:00] <icewaterman> but there has to be an icon i can klick on and have it empty the trash
[17:00] <icewaterman> there was one i do not know what happened to it
[17:01] <HS^> icewaterman,  folders with a . in front of you dont see..
[17:01] <HS^> you know that?
[17:01] <icewaterman> HS^: yes, but ls -lah ~|grep trash should list it
[17:01] <HS^> k
[17:03] <icewaterman> sigh, i want that icon back
[17:04] <sub[t]rnl> you can get the trash icon on the kmenu, just add the applet
[17:05] <icewaterman> sub[t]rnl: and on the desktop?
[17:05] <sub[t]rnl> drag it over to the desktop
[17:06] <icewaterman> sub[t]rnl: seems like there is no trash applet
[17:07] <icewaterman> ah, there it is
[17:07] <icewaterman> cannot drag it though
[17:07] <boss_> ;-)
[17:08] <icewaterman> this cannot be happening
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> right click on the desktop
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> create new -> link to url
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> then put in trash:/
[17:09] <icewaterman> sub[t]rnl: tried that before but with an additional /
[17:09] <icewaterman> probably that is the reason it didnt work
[17:10] <icewaterman> sub[t]rnl: thx, at least it works now (the icon indicates it is always full though, but i can live with that
[17:13] <shadowh511> how do i install KDE in ubuntu and have me choose at login which environment i want?
[17:13] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:14] <sub[t]rnl> will add kde to your session manager at the login screen
[17:14] <shadowh511> how much space will that take?
[17:15] <sub[t]rnl> apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[17:15] <icewaterman> shadowh511: the entire desktop will take quite a lot
[17:16] <shadowh511> crap thats a lotta programs
[17:18] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[17:18] <sub[t]rnl> the installed size will tell you how much its going to use up
[17:18] <sub[t]rnl> remember its in kBytes
[17:19] <shadowh511> its 559 megs
[17:19] <lokpest> Is it just me that thinks that the "kubuntu 8.04 wont be LTS"-debate is overrated?
[17:19] <sub[t]rnl> yup!
[17:19] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[17:20] <icewaterman> lokpest: private users will not care much about LTS anyway and therefore update their software to next distro anyway
[17:20] <hdvalence> lokpest: it is an affront to justice!!!
[17:20] <icewaterman> LTS is only interesting for companies
[17:21] <jpatrick> !ot
[17:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:21] <hdvalence> Internets are serious business, you know!
[17:21] <erik__> How do i find out witch version of kubuntu i run ?
[17:21] <icewaterman> because in productive environments you cannot switch the OS every 6 Months -simply to expensive.
[17:22] <Pici> !version | erik__
[17:22] <ubotu> erik__: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[17:22] <erik__> ty Pici :D
[17:22] <Pici> Welcome
[17:27] <xtas> What process is "whiptail" Its eating more than 85% of my cpu usage all the time
[17:28] <sub[t]rnl> whiptail is something off a dpkg --reconfigure
[17:28] <sub[t]rnl> kill it
[17:28] <sub[t]rnl> I've ran into that a time or two
[17:29] <xtas> okay
[17:29] <Dr_willis> I find the whole LTS/Kde4 'gnome wins kde looses' posts ive been seeing lately overratted.
[17:29] <xtas> So everytime I see it I can just kill it?
[17:29] <Dr_willis> its like now  ubuntu is so successfull. that people can only rant and say bad things about it.
[17:29] <sub[t]rnl> xtas➜ yeah, you shoudn't see it all the time
[17:29] <xtas> Okay. Thanks
[17:30] <sub[t]rnl> Dr_willis➜ i guess most see the glass half empty :<
[17:30] <Dr_willis> sub[t]rnl,  yep it also seems that now a days either you are the "Totally dominating BEST OF all Time!" or are a total looser.
[17:31] <Dr_willis> Cant just be a good movie.. you have to be the Biggest of the year/ect.. cant be a good game.. has to be the top of the year.
[17:31] <sub[t]rnl> hahaha
[17:31] <sub[t]rnl> so true
[17:35] <Dr_willis> i would go on.. but i dont want to be ranting. :)
[17:37] <ptfd9100> where do I find the .deb's that adept-manager downloads when installing?
[17:37] <Dr_willis>  /var/cache/apt/SOMTHING :)
[17:37] <llutz> ptfd9100: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[17:38] <Dr_willis> thats close. heh
[17:39] <ptfd9100> hmm what I need is not there...
[17:39] <ptfd9100> I upgraded vbox with a saved machine last night, now ...
[17:39] <ptfd9100> is there another way to downgrade one package?
[17:41] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis  I have installed samba and followed a tutorial to get it configured to share the blasted printer.  XP laptop finds the thing.  I see the document get into the que on kubuntu box.  but no printout.
[17:41] <joeME> I have a conexant winmodem,  I just installed the newest drivers from dell's linux support page and am having trouble getting connected (i'm booted into windows now). both dialers get to ATDT224-6036 (ISP number) and just wait for connect, but if I listen in on the phone, all I hear is the dial tone.
[17:42] <joeME> What do I need to change to get the modem to start?
[17:42] <joeME> or is there a good tutorial online that would lead me through the right steps?  I've been searching for days now.
[17:43] <ScorpKing> joeME: have you tried www.linmodems.org ?
[17:44] <joeME> not lately, good idea
[17:44] <compilerwriter> Any ideas Dr_willis?
[17:45] <ScorpKing> joeME: if jou run sudo wvdialconf it will detect the modem and set most of the commands in /etc/wvdial.conf . you might have to change the username/password and phone number. when that's done just run sudo wvdial and you should be connected if all went well
[17:47] <mcproff_11459> moinsenn
[17:47] <joeME> Thank you
[17:48] <ScorpKing> yw
[17:50] <ScorpKing> how can i get konversation to only show in the system tray when it's minimized. i've looked through the settings but seem to miss it.
[17:52] <jussi01> ScorpKing: its there for sure
[17:52] <ScorpKing> yeah i know but where. heh. taking another look now..
[17:52] <jussi01> ScorpKing: under behaviour general
[17:53] <jussi01> up the to
[17:53] <jussi01> p
[17:53] <ScorpKing> ah i see. thanks :D
[17:59] <venik> I am having a hard time with a USB external drive
[17:59] <venik> I cannot see it on the file manager
[18:00] <venik> I played with the various settings on the SystemsSettings, but got nowhere
[18:12] <ScorpKing> i want to try some eyecandy for a change. i'm looking for the one that's available in kubuntu but not installed by default. if i do !compiz it doesn't show me what i'm looking for. was that factoid changed or am i just a bit confised?
[18:14] <jussi01> !compiz
[18:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:14] <jussi01> ScorpKing: are you sure?
[18:14] <ScorpKing> ah. one sec
 Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:14] <ScorpKing> stupid bot
[18:15] <ScorpKing> thanks jussi01
[18:15] <jussi01> ScorpKing: no, the bot isnt stupid, it just knows when you are in #kubuntu or not and reacts accordingly ;)
[18:16] <ScorpKing> oh i see. heh. stupid me then ;)
[18:18] <shadowh511> yo
[18:18] <shadowh511> the kde install worked
[18:18] <shadowh511> it feels much more like windows
[18:19] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[18:19] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:22] <alesan> hi
[18:22] <ScorpKing> hi alesan
[18:28] <Dr_willis> i dont find kde like windows very much at all...
[18:28] <Dr_willis> I find kde useable...
[18:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:30] <sourcemaker>  Dr_willis: I have tested windows vista today... great os... but nothing works...
[18:31] <mrdigital> can i have 2 video cards installed?
[18:31] <Dr_willis> sourcemaker,  using it on my gaming machine.. no real problems.. except having to relearn where all the settings are at.. and learning how to disable that IDIOTIC UAC thing. :)
[18:31] <Dr_willis> mrdigital,  yes you can
[18:31] <sourcemaker> Dr_willis: performance is working fine for you?
[18:33] <Dr_willis> sourcemaker,  no problems that ive seen. i do find that DX10 games have much less FPS then the same game with DX9.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> Compiz has more useable eyecandy features also. :)
[18:33] <Dr_willis> wonder how kde4 and compiz will differ..
[18:34] <Dr_willis> I wonder if anyone else finds compiz to be a bit like a 'cake' with way way way.. too much iceing.. :)
[18:34] <tuxick> what's a compiz?
[18:34] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:35] <Dr_willis> it gives you the uber-fancy-eye-candy stuff that you see in a lot of linux demos
[18:35] <Dr_willis> of which all of its features. i find like .. 4 actually helpfull :)
[18:39] <shadowh511> hello
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Howdy
[18:39] <shadowh511> i have both KDE and Gnome on this ubuntu laptop now!
[18:40] <shadowh511> do you know how to make compiz work on kde?
[18:40] <shadowh511> !compiz on kde
[18:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz on kde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:41] <shadowh511> !kde
[18:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[18:42] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:42] <max_> hi guys: postet the same question in #kde, but no answer yet, so i am asking in here also: what packages do i need to automount usb-sticks in kubuntu gutsy-gibbon?
[18:43] <Dr_willis> they should automount allready
[18:43] <Dr_willis> by default even. :)
[18:43] <max_> i did not install "normally"
[18:43] <max_> i had to save disk space and for that reason did an alternative install
[18:43]  * Dr_willis loves it when people leave out imporntant bits of info. :)
[18:44] <Dr_willis> You mean server install? the Alternative installer cd - installs the full Kubuntu also.
[18:44] <max_> no, i installed a konsole-system and then manually apt-got the packages i thought might be useful
[18:45] <shadowh511> max_: ubutnu/kubuntu/*buntu ALWAYS automounts Usb drives
[18:45] <Dr_willis> If kde/gnome is not running does it still automount them? ive never noticed.
[18:45] <max_> kde is running
[18:46] <max_> but it is not a full kubuntu-desktop-install
[18:46]  * Dr_willis is still trying to figure out  a 'konsole-system'    :)
[18:47] <Dr_willis> So you did not install 'kubuntu-desktop' ? just picked a bunch of packages?
[18:47] <max_> yeah, think that hits the point
[18:48] <Dr_willis> could 'start' to install kubuntu-desktop and look at what packages it wants to install.. but dont let it go on. :) any packages wht 'hal' in the name or automount maybe a good one to try.
[18:49] <max_> (just got the hint to look in kcontrol which seems not to be installed yet. guess it might be some kde-guidance package or similar)
[18:49] <Dr_willis> !info kde
[18:49] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[18:49] <max_> (trying to get kcontrol)
[18:49] <Dr_willis> I think there was a kde-core package or somthing also. I also recall a 'minimal kde' web site that listed packages for a Mini-KDE install.
[18:50] <max_> i think i did that
[18:50] <mot_> question...
[18:50] <Lynoure> max_: you could try the opposite approach: install kubuntu-desktop, then prune until it stops working, then undo that step
[18:50] <mot_> aside from transcoding an AVI movie into DVD format and burning it to a DVD
[18:50] <mot_> is there any other way to burn an AVI file to a DVD so that it is readable/playable by most home DVD players?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> Lynoure,  i was hinking that also.
[18:51] <Dr_willis> mot_,  a lot of new dvd players can play divx video files,.
[18:51] <sub[t]rnl> mot_➜ the dvd player has to support the divx
[18:51] <mot_> it's brand new.
[18:51] <Dr_willis> mot,  some can do other formats, vcd, and so forth.
[18:51] <mot_> well
[18:51] <rianne> hi all
[18:51] <Dr_willis> mot_,  check its docs. :) look for a divx logo on the front...
[18:51] <mot_> i think the movie was encoded with divx
[18:51] <mot_> no logo on the front
[18:51] <Dr_willis> put it on disk and try i guess. :P
[18:51] <rianne> my pc can not boot after a kernel upgrade (gutsy).
[18:51] <mot_> does filename matter if it has the right codec?
[18:51] <mot_> Dr_willis, i did, as an AVI a nd it wouldn't work
[18:51] <rianne> what can I do ?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> No idea on the filename - could be your player cant handle divx
[18:52] <Dr_willis> rianne,  cant boot the older kernels in the grub menu?
[18:52] <mot_> what's the easiesy way in kubuntu to figure out what an avi is encoded in?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> file whatever.avi, or right click on it and look at its properties
[18:53] <rianne> Dr_willis: I can NOT boot 2.6.20-15 (from the menu) but i CAN boot 2.6.22-14 from teh Gutsy live CD
[18:53] <mot_> ahh it's xvid not divx
[18:53] <rianne> Dr_willis: this happened after the last kernel upgrade like a couple of days back. I just rebooted yesterday and BAM stuck.
[18:54] <max_> (The KDED Media Service was not running - starting it in kcontrol, solved the usb automount problem - thanx!)
[18:54] <Dr_willis> rianne,  yep tere was a kernel update the other day. Ive had no issues.. but i recall some mention of it in #ubuntu
[18:54] <Dr_willis> well its work time for me.. bye all
[18:54] <rianne> Dr_willis: I am in #ubuntu too. I search launchpad. There are quite some issues. But how to het back up ?
[18:58] <mrdigital> can someone get this video card installed/
[18:59] <ace_suares> so, now I am completely lost ? Noone on IRC that can help me, no helpful hints on ubuntu.org, none in launchpad ?
[18:59] <ace_suares> What should I do, hire some linux expert ?
[18:59] <sigma_123> what r u having problems with?
[19:00] <Lynoure> ace_suares: the change of nick makes it hard to lastlog what you asked...
[19:00] <sigma_123> less than 10 days 2 kde4 :)
[19:01] <Lynoure> ace_suares: normally, when you upgrade kernels, the old one still stays there... so you could probably just remove the new kernel package with apt/adept/tool of your choice
[19:02] <ace_suares> Lynoure: itś not true what you say, unfortunately. A kernel upgrade within the same
[19:02] <sigma_123> ok dnt knw about that sorry. i dnt mess with the kernel
[19:02] <ace_suares> line is done without keeping the old one
[19:02] <ace_suares> so linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic-46 is overriden by -47 without a trace of the old one
[19:03] <sigma_123> it comes with a certain kernel 4a reason:)
[19:03] <ace_suares> Lynoure: I am working on someon elses computer (obvious since mine won boot) and tought a nick change would be appropriate
[19:03] <sigma_123> anyone here got a eeepc running kubuntu?
[19:04] <ace_suares> Lynoure: so, after the latest upgrade, and i THINK itś the kernels fault, booting stops in different places.
[19:04] <ace_suares> see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/179844
[19:05] <Lynoure> ace_suares: at what point(s) does your booting stop?
[19:07] <ace_suares> Lynoure: sometimes at the USB mouse. Sometimes at the CDROM driver. Sometimes somewhere in a sata drive. I repeat: booted fine BEFORE the upgrade, boots fine with LIVE CD kernel (2.6.22-14)
[19:07] <mrdigital> who here is good with nvidia drivers?
[19:07] <sigma_123> depends on the question
[19:08] <sigma_123> but try the repo glx driver before asking
[19:08] <mrdigital> sigma_123: api mismatch nvidia kernel = 1.0-9755 while x module is 1.0-9631
[19:08] <sigma_123> where did u get the driver from?
[19:09] <mrdigital> nvidia-glx-new
[19:09] <ace_suares> Lynoure: also, how to apt-remove a kernel ? I can not even boot! I use the rescue cd now. Then I can do apt...
[19:10] <Lynoure> ace_suares: that recommendation was given at the point where I did not know you had 0 older kernels around (I think I have about 3 myself)
[19:11] <ace_suares> Lynoure: I have an older kernel (2.6.20-something) and it also won boot ! This made me first think itś a hardware
[19:12] <ace_suares> problem. Butsince I can boot with the live cd (which is 2.6.22-14) I know there is no hardware problem.
[19:12] <Lynoure> ace_suares: live cd does not use your hd, I bet
[19:12] <Lynoure> ace_suares: (at booting stage, at least)
[19:12] <ace_suares> I suspect something in udev is f***ing up or so. I installed other kernels - 2.6.22-server, 2.6.22-386 - but they all had the same problem.
[19:13] <ace_suares> Do I think itś some thing that is on the hd and is used by all kernels (?????) and anyway i can boot and I am pretty lost.
[19:13] <Lynoure> I'm lost now too...
[19:13] <ace_suares> Lynoure: thanks for pointing that out but I can do a rescue from the live cd and that is definately using the harddisk (even md device tru softwar eraid).
[19:14] <ace_suares> Lynoure: so itś def not hardware related... itś driver related, something in the kernel, something in udev or what ever.
[19:15] <ace_suares> Lynoure: thanks for trying tough. Itś a real issue: where to turn to now ? NO help FOUND at the common ubuntu channels at all.
[19:15] <ace_suares> I doubt if paying canonical will solve the proble,
[19:15] <Lynoure> ace_suares: if you are adventurous, you could boot from livecd, then manually install a new kernel to the disk after mounting it... or even new udev. But it's hassle.
[19:16] <mrdigital> how do if i know im using 9755
[19:17] <Lynoure> If you are less adventurous, you could just back up and reinstall.
[19:20] <daffa> !ftp
[19:20] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[19:20] <Lynoure> ace_suares: I'll have to go now. Good luck with whichever approach you choose.
[19:20] <ace_suares> Lynoure: I installed several kernels... didn't work.
[19:21] <ace_suares> Lynoure: There is a lack of serious and reliable support in Ubuntu
[19:21] <ace_suares> Lynoure: thanks anyway, and have a nice 2008 !
[19:21] <Lynoure> ace_suares: you don't want to involve me into that conversation... I'm an entrepreneur geek, and at least when it comes to me, I disagree =)
[19:22] <Lynoure> ace_suares: but the support I volunteer here is, well, pro bono work on my spare time.
[19:23] <Lynoure> Mostly just volunteer on this channel, if not 100% volunteers.
[19:24] <Lynoure> Same goes for the forums.
[19:24] <mrdigital> wow i told the system to use nvidia now my scren is blurry any ideas
[19:28] <sfcmouse> hi  i found an adobe reader for linux but dont know how to instal it
[19:28] <sourcemaker> !nvidia
[19:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:29] <sfcmouse> is that for adobe reader?
[19:29] <LeeJunFan> sfcmouse: no, that's for graphics cards.
[19:29] <LeeJunFan> !medibuntu
[19:29] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:30] <sfcmouse> ok i got a free linux version of adobe reader and i need to install i t now
[19:30] <LeeJunFan> sfcmouse: setup medibuntu repositories on your system and then you will be able to install adobe reader.
[19:30] <shadowhywind> how would one change eth1 to eth0 ? any ideas?
[19:30] <jussi01> sfcmouse: is kpdf not installed allready?
[19:30] <sfcmouse> i have no clue as how to set that up
[19:30] <TimS> Is it possible to get deskbar workind under KDE?
[19:31] <sfcmouse> i am sooo new with linux
[19:31] <jussi01> TimS: you mean a dock?
[19:31] <LeeJunFan> !medibuntu > sfcmouse
[19:31] <LeeJunFan> shadowhywind: you want to edit /etc/iftab
[19:31] <TimS> No, I mean deskbar. Its a seach tool like strigi or beagle for gnome but has a nice applet for searching
[19:31] <jussi01> sfcmouse: look in the kmenu, graphics, kpdf
[19:31] <shadowhywind> etc/iftab doesn't have anything in it
[19:32] <jussi01> TimS: I thought strigi was in by default...
[19:32] <TimS> It is.
[19:32] <TimS> But I dont like strigi. Its interface is horrible. So I want deskbar
[19:32] <jussi01> TimS: ahhh, that I dont know about
[19:33] <mrdigital> why is my display blurry with the nvidia dirver?
[19:33] <sfcmouse> jussi  what does that kpdf do for me
[19:34] <jussi01> sfcmouse: its an equivalent to adobe reader
[19:34] <jussi01> opens pdf files
[19:34] <sfcmouse> ok  but i cant use it i dont think
[19:34] <sfcmouse> i am trying to get info from my bank and it says i need the adobe reader
[19:34] <jussi01> sfcmouse: or do you mean flash - also made by adobe?
[19:34] <sfcmouse> it says i need the adobe reader and provides a free download
[19:35] <sfcmouse> i downloaded a free linux version but dont know how to install it
[19:35] <jussi01> sfcmouse: ok. is this a public link? or is it private?
[19:35] <sfcmouse> its a public link
[19:35] <jussi01> could you provide me with it so I can have a look?
[19:35] <sfcmouse> hold a sec
[19:38] <sfcmouse> ok this is the link to the adobe reader i got  http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
[19:38] <marcel> siema :) szcz nowego roku dla wszystkich
[19:38] <marcel> czy ktos mi pomoze jak wyswietlic w ubuntu informacje o zaistalowanych kosciach pamieci ram w komputerze?
[19:41] <spykedtomato> marcel - #ubuntu-pl
[19:42] <thumper> morning folks
[19:42] <TimS> Morning tim
[19:43] <thumper> is there an easy way to get amarok to work with a new ipod nano?
[19:43] <thumper> TimS: was that to me?
[19:43] <TimS> Yes
[19:43] <thumper> TimS: ok, morning :)
[19:44] <spykedtomato> thumper: i think you need libgpod 0.6.0
[19:44] <spykedtomato> I did that for my new classic, but i think it's the same procedure
[19:45] <thumper> spykedtomato: and is that easy to get? PPA perhaps?
[19:45] <spykedtomato> yeah - lemmee check which one i have
[19:45] <piet> Hi
[19:46] <piet> i have a question if anyone can answer for me
[19:46] <spykedtomato> thumper: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sikon/ubuntu gutsy main
[19:46] <spykedtomato> that's what I used, but i'm also using gtkpod
[19:46] <thumper> spykedtomato: thanks, PPA FTW
[19:46] <spykedtomato> i like gtkpod better than amarok for managing files
[19:46] <piet> is there a way that i can change the language from english to Dutch on here
[19:47] <piet> on Ubuntu
[19:47] <spykedtomato> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:47] <piet> ubuntu
[19:47] <spykedtomato> try #ubuntu :)
[19:47] <piet> i dont know how i got to kubuntu chat...
[19:47] <piet> thanks
[19:47] <spykedtomato> np
[19:48] <sfcmouse> still trying to install linux version of adobe reader
[19:48] <sfcmouse> any help available?
[19:56] <mrdigital> where is modprobe.conf
[19:57] <j0an> hello
[19:57] <j0an> im having a problem with my pen drive
[19:57] <j0an> can anybody help me
[19:57] <j0an> suddenly i canot write in to my pendrive
[19:58] <j0an> it says readonly
[19:59] <miguel_> hi
[19:59] <miguel_> j0an
[19:59] <_Angelus_> guys, my graphic card doesn't work too good with compiz fusion, my old radeon 7000 with an open source driver used to work better, how can i get the latest drivers in kubuntu?
[19:59] <juan> my sound is not working is there a good debuging guide
[20:00] <marcel> my pc doesn't work also!
[20:00] <marcel> what's heppen:)
[20:00] <thumper> spykedtomato: neither gtkpod nor amarok has the correct model to select for the ipod
[20:00] <thumper> spykedtomato: do I need to recompile them somehow?
[20:01] <juan> thumper: do any of the models amarok has work?
[20:02] <thumper> juan: the older models have a different hash
[20:02] <thumper> and no, they don't work
[20:02] <spykedtomato> thumper: is it a nano video?
[20:02] <thumper> spykedtomato: yeah
[20:03] <spykedtomato> gtkpod lists it as supported
[20:03] <thumper> spykedtomato: yeah, but I just installed gtkpod, and it isn't on the list anywhere
[20:03] <yao_ziyuan> before the login screen there is a boot screen showing a "kubuntu" logo and a progress bar. i wonder how to set screen resolution for this boot screen?
[20:03] <spykedtomato> thumper: maybe under third nano generation?
[20:04] <_Angelus_> guys, my graphic card doesn't work too good with compiz fusion, my old radeon 7000 with an open source driver used to work better, how can i get the latest drivers in kubuntu?
[20:05] <spykedtomato> thumper: it's on my list in gtkpod as Nano Video 3rd generation
[20:05] <draik> What is a good RSS Feed reader?
[20:06] <thumper> spykedtomato: did you compile your gtkpod?
[20:07] <spykedtomato> thumper: nope - installed gtkpod-aac from the repo i gave you
[20:07] <thumper> spykedtomato: aah, I just installed gtkpod
[20:08] <spykedtomato> thumper: dunno if that's the problem - i don't have gtkpod installed - just gtkpod-aac
[20:08] <spykedtomato> it should install libgpod for you automatically
[20:08] <spykedtomato> the list of ipods is dependent on that lib
[20:08] <mith__> hi all!
[20:08] <mith__> how can i change the language in gimp?
[20:09] <thumper> spykedtomato: gtkpod-aac replaces gtkpod
[20:09] <thumper> but that's ok
[20:09] <j0an> hey miguel
[20:09] <spykedtomato> thumper: that's fine
[20:09] <j0an> }what's up
[20:09] <thumper> I don't suppose there is an amarok in a PPA compiled against libgpod.3?
[20:09] <j0an> miguel_
[20:10] <spykedtomato> thumper: i know there is one, but it's compiled for the ipod touch and iphone
[20:10] <spykedtomato> thumper: so i haven't had the guts to test it out with my classic :)
[20:10] <thumper> spykedtomato: do you happen to know the PPA?
[20:11] <spykedtomato> 2 seks
[20:13] <spykedtomato> thumper: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ipod-touch/
[20:14] <thumper> spykedtomato: thanks
[20:14] <spykedtomato> thumper: if you want to use the embedded album art stick to gtkpod tho - amarok isn't easy...
[20:14] <thumper> spykedtomato: ok, what magic do I need to initialise the ipod though
[20:15] <thumper> spykedtomato: I just tried saving stuff but no music still
[20:15] <spykedtomato> thumper: what do you mean?
[20:15] <spykedtomato> is the ipod mounted?
[20:18] <combinio> how to turn off those jumping icons after each launching of program with mouse ??
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> combinio: one second..
[20:18] <combinio> nosrednaekim: ok :)
[20:18] <thumper> spykedtomato: it's ok now, although cover art would be cool
[20:18] <thumper> spykedtomato: is it easy?
[20:18] <spykedtomato> thumper: is what easy - gtkpod?
[20:19] <thumper> spykedtomato: getting coverart with gtkpod?
[20:19] <combinio> nosrednaekim: cuz i'm trying to limit my system to make it much faster :)
[20:19] <spykedtomato> spykedtomato: if you have the coverart embedded in your id3 then you don't have to do anything - it's just there
[20:19] <thumper> spykedtomato: ah, I don't
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> combinio: open up "kcontrol" and then go to "appearance and themes->launch feedback"
[20:19] <spykedtomato> thumper: and i do - which i LOVE :)
[20:20] <thumper> spykedtomato: do you know of a tool to add it?
[20:20] <spykedtomato> thumper: you CAN do it in gtkpod - http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Adding+Cover+Art+from+a+browser
[20:20] <spykedtomato> thumper: that wiki is awesome btw - and you can discuss in #gtkpod as well
[20:21] <alexroot> yupiiiiiiii
[20:22] <alexroot> peñaaaa eo, eoeoe
[20:22] <alexroot> ieeeeeepa
[20:22] <alexroot> (q mal toy, Rdiox)
[20:23] <combinio> nosrednaekim: can u say it more accuracy where is that FEEDBACK ? :)) can't find it (non-english language on my kub :]
[20:23] <Tm_T> alexroot: english, thank you
[20:23] <combinio> nosrednaekim: i'm in Appearance but there is no feedback nowhere ://
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> combinio: run the command "kcontrol" and go to appearance in there.
[20:24] <spykedtomato> thumper: other than that i use easytag to tag all my mp3s
[20:24] <combinio> nosrednaekim: got that :))
[20:25] <su|> hi
[20:25] <alexroot> ai gente d l'aspaña profunda?
[20:25] <combinio> nosrednaekim: it is called - "jumping coursor" :)  /  got that :)) thanks :}
[20:25] <CygnusX1> Hello.  Can anyone point me to a location containing the most recent information concerning sleep/hibernate issues introduced with 7.10? (7.04 was flawless on my laptop)
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> combinio: and there is no "lauch feedback" there? a little rocket?
[20:26] <CygnusX1> I am currently following a thread on launchpad that indicates this was a well known issue during Gutsy beta and was not resolved before release.
[20:27] <combinio> nosrednaekim: hhmm... i made it kControl >> Appearance >> launchong programms >> and there is icon "cahnge coursor" - so i set on Don't change the coursor - before it was "jumping coursor". now it's okay :)
[20:28] <alexroot> juas, m acabo d dar cuenta q m'edejao 90 euros en gasofa en diciembre ... coño, tendre q ir a pata
[20:28] <stdin> !es | alexroot
[20:28] <ubotu> alexroot: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:28] <_Angelus_> man
[20:28] <alexroot> stdin !! HOLA !
[20:28] <_Angelus_> can someone answer me :(
[20:28] <combinio> nosrednaekim: oh right! now i know what mean 'Feedback' ;P
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> CygnusX1: yeah, its a problem with the kernel and ATI or Nvidia drivers
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> combinio: yep :)
[20:29] <combinio> nosrednaekim: thanks for help ;))
[20:29] <_Angelus_> i want to update my nvidia drivers
[20:29] <_Angelus_> is it posible on kubuntu or no?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[20:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:29] <_Angelus_> i want to update to the latest version
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> why?
[20:29] <_Angelus_> its the only way to use the package from nvidia.com
[20:29] <_Angelus_> because some bugs where fixed
[20:29] <_Angelus_> that are anoying me on compiz
[20:30] <stdin> _Angelus_: instructions to install the binary driver from nvidia.com are also linked to on that page
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> then yeah.... the only way is from the package on nvidia. but there are instructions on that wiki page
[20:30] <_Angelus_> so thats the only way to update?
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> stdin: heh... did you see yuriy's work on Adept for KDE4?
[20:30] <teknoprep> hey all
[20:30] <shadowhywind> hay all, question for you all if i wanted something to be modprobed on startup what file would i edit, *i so can't think of the name at the moment*
[20:30] <teknoprep> what is the script that auto detects your xorg settings?
[20:30] <teknoprep> on install
[20:31] <stdin> nosrednaekim: yeah, it's progressing well (I guess). I took one look at the code and want "Ahhhhhh!" :p
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> stdin: haha
[20:32] <CygnusX1> nosrednaekim: Damn it.  Now neither Vista nor Kubuntu are useable on my laptop.  haha Funny hting with Vista....sleep/hiber worked fine in beta1,b2, rc1,rc2...final release BAM.  This is what got me using Fiesty on my lappy.
[20:32] <_Angelus_> and shoukd i remove kubuntu's driver first? before installing the one from nvidia.com?
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: /etc/modules
[20:33] <stdin> _Angelus_: that would probably be a good idea
[20:33] <awen_> CygnusX1: look forward to hardy... the 2.6.24 kernel does a much better job for sleeping/hibernation
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> CygnusX1: keep using fiesty for a couple more months..
[20:34] <CygnusX1> Would just recompiling the eixsting kernel using slub instead of slab (or vice versa) do the trick?
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> CygnusX1: yeah.. there was something about recompiling the kernel....
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> with some option enabled.
[20:35] <su|> since my last update I have a problem getting knetworkmanager to work with my wireless connection. it's a ipw2200 chipset and the kernelmodules ieee80211, ieee80211_crypt and ipw2200 are loaded. iwconfig tells me there's a device eth1 with an unassociated ESSID:"myESSID". when I try to get an IP with dhclient I get the "No DHCPOFFERS received". if i try to set a static IP manually i get no connection. can anyone help me?
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> su|: is your wireless switch on?
[20:36] <CygnusX1> I frequently customize the kernel on Slackware on my desktop.  Are they any special Kubuntu hoops to jump trhough when compiling one's own kernel? (a modern guide to doing it the Kubuntu way perhaps?)
[20:36] <awen_> CygnusX1: i don't think it would do everything... 2.6.22 is somewhat "broken" with regards to hibernate/sleeping
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> sounds like your radio is disabled. run "iwlist eth1 scan"
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> CygnusX1: not that I know of..
[20:37] <su|> nosrednaekim: yes, if i switch it off iwconfig ttells me "radio off"
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> su|: oh..ok
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> what does iwlist eth1 scan say su| ?
[20:38]  * awen_ runs hardy alpha, and has a more stable suspend/resume than both feisty and gutsy
[20:39] <CygnusX1> awen_: If I add the alpha repository and upgrade gutsy, can I expect huge problems upgrading to hardy final?
[20:39] <su|> nosrednaekim: a lot. it found some cells with different wireless networks. one of them is my network
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> su|: ok, great.... do you have encryption?
[20:40] <CygnusX1> Wow.  It is frustrating seeing this issue discussed for months before the final release. :-(
[20:40] <awen_> CygnusX1: you shouldn't expect huge problems doing the final upgrade... but expect a lot of problems in the meantime; it is alpha after all
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> CygnusX1: upgrading from a hardy alpha to the final is painless and probably pretty safe
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> its what I did for gutsy
[20:41] <su|> nosrednaekim: yes, WPA with pre-shared keys
[20:41] <CygnusX1> awen_: How are things working for you?  I need wire networking, Firfox, Openoffice, and Truecrypt running.
[20:41] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix
[20:41] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:41] <shadowhywind_> hay all i have a fat32 partition on an external hdd, when i boot into a qtparted live cd to copy the entire partition to a different hardrive, It wont paste it. Any ideas?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> su|: ouch..... and knetworkmanager isn't working at all?
[20:42] <su|> nosrednaekim: it worked till my last update.
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> su|: did that update have a kernel?
[20:43] <awen_> CygnusX1: i haven't had any serious problems yet; most of them is just cosmetic... but i would recommend stay using kde 3.5.x and not kde4 yet
[20:43] <su|> nosrednaekim: maybe, I'm not sure. is there an aptitude/adept logfile?
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> yeah... I think there is a dpkg log file in /var/log
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> but unfortunately, I have to go.
[20:43] <su|> nosrednaekim: I ran update-modules with the new kernel, but that didn't change anything
[20:44] <CygnusX1> awen_: Thank you.  It won't kill me to try it.  If it doesn't work out, I shall jsut revert to Fiesty image (thank good ness I imaged before going gibbon!)
[20:44] <su|> nosrednaekim: have a nice evening
[20:45] <basy> hi du you know any tutorial on web how to change default ubuntu nvidia driver to original nvidia..., I need turn off X-server first, and do it with terminal, and i don't know how to ...
[20:45] <awen_> CygnusX1: check that you get the new 2.6.24 kernel automatically... if not you need to install the deb packages manually using adept
[20:46] <shadowhywind_> basy have you downloaded the nvidia driver yet?
[20:46] <awen_> CygnusX1: but then i'll welcome you to hardy :)
[20:46] <basy> yes
[20:47] <CygnusX1> :-)  Thank you
[20:47] <shadowhywind_> have you installed it yet? or is that what your stuck on?
[20:47] <_Angelus_> why i do only have "Load GLX" in my Modules section of xorg.conf ?
[20:47] <_Angelus_> :/
 when i run ./install => stops on the beginig and tels me to turn off x-server
[20:48] <shadowhywind_> ok log out to take you back to the login screen, you should see something a button for sessons click that and chose console
[20:48] <su|> which command do I have to run after a new kernel was installed? my wireless connection does not work any more. is there something I have to do after installing a new kernel?
 thnx i'll try
[21:04] <su|> by
[21:09] <yereth> hi guys
[21:09] <yereth> what was the fancy theme manager for KDE called again?
[21:11] <xtas> What other system monitors for desktop is out there except conky?
[21:14] <phoenixz> Hi there, I have a laptop (dell latitude d620) with a video out, which can show a desktop on a secondary monitor.. The problem is that this video out is not working. I want to show presentations on that video out, but how do I enable it?
[21:15] <NickPresta> xtas, superkaramba has a few applets that show system information.
[21:15] <JohnKirro> anyone know why a data dvd burned using k3b would work in one windows xp machine and not another?
[21:15] <xtas> NickPresta: thanks. that was the one I was looking for.
[21:16] <BluesKaj> !dual head
[21:16] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[21:17] <limac> hey, what compiler in kubuntu should I use for fortran?
[21:18] <JohnKirro> !fortran
[21:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortran - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:18] <NickPresta> limac, I would use g77.
[21:19] <limac> should what's the command
[21:19] <NickPresta> limac, it depends if you're using fortran 77 or 95.
[21:19] <limac> either
[21:19] <NickPresta> limac, then g77 is probably best. sudo apt-get install g77
[21:20] <limac> and for 95?
[21:20] <NickPresta> sudo apt-get install gfortran
[21:21] <limac> and to compile the file
[21:21] <NickPresta> limac, you're going to have to read the man pages or find some resources on the web :)
[21:21] <limac> like for c++ "g++ -o name name.cpp
[21:21] <NickPresta> limac, g77 is part of the gcc suite so I would imagine it's similar
[21:22] <limac> allright thx I'll check the internet for the rest! :D
[21:22] <limac> NickPresta ^^^^^^^^6
[21:22] <NickPresta> :)
[21:25] <intelikey> i seem to be banned from #ubuntu.   looks like there was a bot invation
[21:25] <intelikey> anyway   anyone want to help trubble shoot a network malidy ?
[21:28] <intelikey> i'm loosing contunity through a single box,  i can ping both networks on that box from either network, but i can't get past the box itself.   not sure what's wrong  route gateway settings or iptables packet forwarding...  i'm clueless on networks...
[21:28] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[21:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:35] <limac> NickPresta: are fortran 90 and 95 the same?
[21:36] <limac> !gfortran
[21:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfortran - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:47] <Verr> '
[21:47] <Mr_Sonoma> any hear when the flash plug in is supposed to be fixed? an expected time frame?
[21:50] <enry> good night
[21:55] <TimS> The command line command "at" doesnt seem to work for me, anyone have it working?
[21:56] <ardchoille> "at"  ?
[21:56] <ardchoille> TimS: Can you give an example?
[21:56] <TimS> at 21:59
[21:56] <intelikey> is the deamon running ?
[21:56] <intelikey> and it requires an executable to run.
[21:56] <intelikey> man at
[21:57] <TimS> I think so. The command is added to the que, and it dissapears from the que
[21:57] <ardchoille> Whoa, I didn't know about that.
[21:57] <TimS> I typed "at 21:59"
[21:57] <TimS> kate
[21:57] <TimS> ^D
[21:57] <TimS> It added it to the que, when the time came, kate diddn't run, what am I doing wrong intelikey
[21:57] <intelikey> TimS 21:59 is not a command.   man at
[21:58] <TimS> I know its not!
[21:58] <TimS> The next line is for the user input
[21:58] <TimS> "at 21:59" enter
[21:58] <TimS> "kate" enter
[21:58] <TimS> ^D
[21:59] <TimS> I entered it perfectly fine, but it diddn't appear to work
[21:59] <TimS> How can I check if the deamon is running intelikey?
[22:01] <awen_> TimS:
[22:01] <sourcemaker> TimS: top
[22:01] <awen_> TimS: i don't think it is possible to use graphical programs
[22:02] <TimS> awen_: Hmm? I thought it would run any command. Ill try a different command then, hold on.
[22:03] <awen_> i tried executing 'echo "hi" >> ~/test' which works fine... but kate doesn't
[22:03] <TimS> Okay.
[22:04] <TimS> that worked for me also
[22:06] <awen_> :)
[22:06] <juan> ive overwritten part of a ext3 partition is there anyway to restore data that wasnt erased?
[22:06] <TimS> Not sure how much use it is then awen_ :P
[22:07] <awen_> TimS: good for task like backing up, syncing etc., which most often can be done from the command-line
[22:08] <awen_> you might need to telle kate a
[22:09] <awen_> at which xdisplay it should start
[22:09] <brad__> i need some help
[22:11] <brad__> im new to linux and i need some help with konsole
[22:12] <intelikey> say it.
[22:12] <brad__> please
[22:12] <intelikey> !ask
[22:12] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:13] <intelikey> and some that don't know may also answer
[22:14] <Viking667> hello. I've got a question. I want to turn OFF launch feedback icon on the pointer when a program starts up. I've looked through all the kcontrol sections. (kubuntu 7.04)
[22:14] <Viking667> ... and I haven't found anything relating to launch feedback.
[22:15] <intelikey> Viking667 it's hiden in the kcontrol some place.
[22:15] <jussi01> !away > gauravvijay
[22:16] <intelikey> look for keyword bounc
[22:17] <snarkster> hi there, Ive got a question changing properties on another panel that I added.
[22:18] <jussi01> snarkster: ask the question!
[22:18] <juan> snarkster: try using control pannel
[22:18] <snarkster> oh
[22:18] <awen_> Viking667: under mouse "Visual feedback on activation" ?
[22:18] <snarkster> well i dont have control panel
[22:18] <juan> erm i mean system settings
[22:19] <snarkster> Im trying to hide a new panel i moved to the top of the page.
[22:19] <intelikey> now wasn't that fun....
[22:19] <Viking667> I tried searching for "launch", got 0 hits.
[22:19] <brad__> i have idea how to use konsole i am triying to find a folder
[22:19] <jussi01> snarkster: you ned to restart the panel  before it will show the dropdown to change the panel you just created
[22:19] <intelikey> i tried starting xorg so i conld help you look and lost all display.
[22:20] <snarkster> how do you restart the panel?
[22:20] <intelikey> guess i better fix that.
[22:20] <intelikey> killall kicker ;kicker
[22:20] <Viking667> I'll try that then. Thank you. It's not where I thought it was, nor named what I thought it was.
[22:20] <intelikey> in the alt+f2
[22:20] <jussi01> brad__: what are you looking for?
[22:21] <awen_> Viking667: try to see if it works... was the best shot i could find
[22:21] <intelikey> brad__ ls ~= dir    cp ~= copy    rm ~= del   <<< some dos rough equivalents
[22:22] <snarkster> awesome it hides
[22:22] <bmk789>  is $400 good for a PC with AMD X2 3600+, 1GB DDR2-800, 7300LE, 160GB, DVDRW?
[22:22] <brad__> i download flash player plugin and it is on my desktop and do not know what to tipe in to view the files in the desktop
[22:22] <snarkster> thank you very much
[22:22] <intelikey> snarkster kicker can hid yes.  can be most anywhere and any size.
[22:22] <jussi01> brad__: cd Desktop
[22:22] <bmk789> oops, wrong channed
[22:22] <bmk789> channel*
[22:22] <bmk789> :P
[22:22] <gustavo> hola a todos
[22:23] <jussi01> !es | gustavo
[22:23] <ubotu> gustavo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:23] <intelikey> brad__  ls ~/Desktop   to view them
[22:24] <xxyy>  I've a quetion on dolphin. Is it the right site to answer?
[22:24] <jussi01> xxyy: go ahead
[22:24] <intelikey> the tild "~" always expands to your home dirrectory.  and you desktop dir is in your home dir.
[22:24] <intelikey> err i should say should always expant to $HOME
[22:24] <Viking667> nope, wasn't that one 8-(
[22:25] <jussi01> Viking667: what are you looking for
[22:26] <xxyy> jussi01: when i open dolphin file manager, in the storage media menu i see all the hard disk and cd, but i don't find the floppy disk icon
[22:26] <brad__> -they are not working
[22:26] <intelikey> wel i'm in the dark again.   back in a bit.
[22:26] <jussi01> brad__: you need to have the capitals correct - did you?
[22:27] <jussi01> brad__: it should be: cd Desktop
[22:27] <brad__> no now it worked thant you
[22:27] <jussi01> :)
[22:27] <SpinBoson> Anyone happen to know where I can find the 3ddesktop package?
[22:28] <intelikey> back.
[22:28] <jussi01> SpinBoson: exactly what do you mean?
[22:28] <jussi01> this?
[22:28] <jussi01> !compiz | SpinBoson
[22:28] <ubotu> SpinBoson: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:29] <SpinBoson> I think compiz is something else... I could be wrong though
[22:29] <jussi01> SpinBoson: can you explain a little more?
[22:30] <SpinBoson> I have an annoying ATI card which makes beryl basically impossible. I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368142 which has some of the neat features, and it mentions a package known as 3ddesktop
[22:30] <Viking667> FOUND it!!!!!
[22:30] <jussi01> !nickspam > B4S3M
[22:30] <Viking667> had to turn on a extra menu entry on the Kicker's Menu: "Settings"
[22:31] <tinin> How do I change file associations in firefox, (to open a file with a different program)?
[22:31] <jussi01> !xgl | SpinBoson
[22:31] <ubotu> SpinBoson: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:31] <jussi01> gah
[22:31] <xxyy> jussi01: have you an idea
[22:31] <jussi01> SpinBoson: go have a look at that guide - it has stuff about xgl
[22:31] <jussi01> xxyy: no
[22:32] <B4S3M> i need a universal media player for kubuntu
[22:32] <xxyy> jussi01:ok
[22:32] <jussi01> B4S3M: VLC
[22:32] <jussi01> !info vlc | B4S3M
[22:32] <ubotu> b4s3m: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[22:32] <xxyy> jussi01:probably is a too symple question
[22:32] <SpinBoson> jussi01: That guide just tells me how to install compiz
[22:32] <xxyy> jussi01:thanks
[22:32] <jussi01> SpinBoson: does it not have stuff about installing xgl also?
[22:33] <B4S3M> jussi01: canit run aXXo formats ?
[22:33] <SpinBoson> jussi01: No.
[22:33] <SpinBoson> jussi01: Does compiz run on the default ati driver?
[22:33] <jussi01> B4S3M: not sure - but i can run everything Ive thrown at it
[22:33] <jussi01> SpinBoson: with the help of xgl it should
[22:33] <jussi01> afaik
[22:34] <SpinBoson> jussi01: How do I find out if xgl is installed?
[22:34] <SpinBoson> jussi01: Is it a package?
[22:34] <intelikey> K-rap!  i don't know what has gone bonkers with my display.  when xorg starts it's fine but when the de tries to start it goes all black and that's that until ruboot.   </blinks>
[22:34] <jussi01> SpinBoson: one moment please
[22:34] <SpinBoson> aye
[22:35] <jussi01> SpinBoson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusionATI?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[22:36] <jussi01> Ok, Im off to bed. night all
[22:37] <xxyy> jussi01: good niught
[22:38] <intelikey> ok i have a working xorg.  now to test the users de
[22:38] <intelikey> nope.  blind again.
[22:39] <limac> what is the extension for a fortran file in kate?
[22:40] <limac> </blinks?
[22:40] <unix_infidel> limac: depends.
[22:40] <unix_infidel> fortran files are non kate specific.
[22:40] <limac> example?
[22:40] <unix_infidel> most likely it's file.f
[22:40] <limac> ah! anymore
[22:41] <limac> like for fortan 95
[22:41] <unix_infidel> dunno. i havent used fortran in a long time.
[22:41] <limac> or 90
[22:41] <unix_infidel> i dont think i want to learn fortran either.
[22:41] <limac> that's allright, thx a lot
[22:42] <unix_infidel> limac: iirc the versions are just appened as a suffix onto the file name.
[22:42] <unix_infidel> f90, f70, f95
[22:42] <xxyy> when i open dolphin file manager, in the storage media menu i see all the hard disk and cd, but i don't find the floppy disk icon
[22:42] <gauravvijay> .for is also used
[22:42] <unix_infidel> ^^, indeed.
[22:42] <limac> ah! thx unix_infidel
[22:42] <limac> thx
[22:43] <intelikey> /quit .
[22:43] <intelikey> mc
[22:43] <intelikey> ~aumi
[22:43] <intelikey> q
[22:43] <intelikey> exit
[22:44] <limac> and also what command should be executed to run them vial the terminal?
[22:51] <limac> anyone using hardy kubuntu?
[22:51] <limac> liking i?
[22:53] <marius__> hi to all
[22:54] <unix_infidel> well piss on my mac tablet expectations.
[22:54] <unix_infidel> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/01/02/new-apple-notebook-spotted-we-told-you-so/
[22:57] <brad__> ok when i could some call me or go into privet to help me i am very lost
[23:03] <nivek> !ask | brad__
[23:03] <ubotu> brad__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:05] <brad__> i enterd cd Desktop in konsole and i still can not see the files on my desktop
[23:05] <Mr_Sonoma> brad__, type ls
[23:05] <gauravvijay> try ls
[23:06] <xxyy> when i open dolphin file manager, in the storage media menu i see all the hard disk and cd, but i don't find the floppy disk icon
[23:07] <phoenixz> Hi there, I have a dell latitude d620 laptop which has an intel 945 chipset, and I want to user the external video.. How can I configure X to do this? Some people pointed me to xinerama and this link (http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead) but it doesnt really work what is said there.. Could anybody here helpe me out?
[23:07] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: you mean the webcam or an external screen?
[23:08] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, this laptop does not have a webcam.. I have an external monitor connected (a projector) and I need to show presentations on that external monitor
[23:08] <djdarkman> hello, can someone help me out with installing a newer version of the ati driver? I installed it but I get strange errors
[23:08] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: fn+f8
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: what errors?
[23:09] <djdarkman> like this
[23:09] <djdarkman> Checking for nVidia: not present.
[23:09] <djdarkman> Checking for FBConfig: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:09] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, tried that, but does not work... doesnt do anything
[23:09] <djdarkman> segfault erros simply just don`t give a clue to me
[23:09] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: works fine with every dell i've tried, pastebin your xorg.conf ---> rafb.net/paste
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: compiz?
[23:09] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, sure, one sec
[23:10] <djdarkman> yes
[23:10] <djdarkman> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[23:10] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: also make sure all necessary acpi and button components are installad and working.
[23:10] <djdarkman> used this to install the drivers
[23:10] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, right back.. the X session I got right now is messed up, no mouse, its difficult to copy paste
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: hmm... do normal 3d apps work?
[23:11] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: does glxgears count?
[23:11] <brad__> when i type cd Desktop ls and type ./install-flashplayer-9 i get bash: ./install_flash_player_9_linux: is a directory
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: yes...
[23:11] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim:
[23:11] <djdarkman> djdarkman@Darknet2:~$ fgl_glxgears
[23:11] <djdarkman> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[23:11] <djdarkman> Segmentation fault
[23:11] <Mr_Sonoma> brad__, what are you trying to do install flash?
[23:11] <brad__> yes
[23:11] <djdarkman> don`t understand why segfault... :(
[23:12] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, back
[23:12] <phoenixz> what ACPI and button things should be installed?
[23:12] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, pasting xorg.conf now
[23:12] <Mr_Sonoma> did you use tar to extract the files from the tarball?
[23:12] <dthacker-work> hi, I've just accidentally enabled some kind of keyboard gesture on my laptop that prevents me from typing.  How do I set it back?
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: did you disable the included kernel driver?
[23:12] <Mr_Sonoma> oh....ok i see
[23:12] <djdarkman> yes, I`m taking a look at the xorg.conf because glxinfo reports no direct rendering
[23:13] <Mr_Sonoma> brad__, type cd install_flash_player_9
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: get rid of any composite disableing sections
[23:13] <Mr_Sonoma> brad__, type cd install_flash_player_9_linux
[23:13] <maria> ahoy, anyone here owns an iPod (nano...or any with recent firmware) and got amarok to work with it nice? (re: problem with new DB format...) I can't find a "bleeding edge" source for kubuntu packages
[23:13] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, http://rafb.net/p/R9gy2z85.html
[23:14] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: done that, where can I add the Direct rendering in xorg.conf? because I get no direct rendering errors
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: probably a kernel module conflict.... take a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:15] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, I checked for button or acpi packages in adept, but I can't find any that would make sense in this context
[23:16] <Schuenemann> does anyone here use kile and know if it's possible to maximize the edit window/view?
[23:17] <djdarkman> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0
[23:17] <djdarkman> (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:17] <djdarkman> (II) Loading extension ATIFGLRXDRI
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: look for kernel module errors
[23:18] <djdarkman> how do they look like nosrednaekim? (the log is realy long)
[23:18] <martin_> hallo
[23:18] <brad__> how do i register my nickname so i can send privet messg
[23:19] <Schuenemann> /nickserv register password
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: try "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep kernel"
[23:19] <andreas> hello
[23:19] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, AND BACK AGAIN
[23:19] <andreas> i am trying to add a file to a tar.gz file
[23:19] <andreas> using Arc
[23:19] <phoenixz> another X crash.. X is fun while experimenting
[23:19] <djdarkman> no errors
[23:19] <djdarkman> (II) fglrx(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
[23:19] <djdarkman> (II) fglrx(0):     Desc: ATI FireGL DRM kernel module
[23:19] <andreas> but i don't know how to add a password
[23:20] <martin_> anyone could tell me how to install the divx webplayer for watching movies on stage6.com ?
[23:20] <andreas> can anyone help me?
[23:20] <Daisuke-Ido> use another format
[23:20] <Daisuke-Ido> rar would be best if you're insistent about password-protecting it
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: hmm...ok, this is the 7.11 one, right? did you install it via autogenerated debs?
[23:20] <andreas> and what program should i use?
[23:21] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: 7.12
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: yeah... 7.12, i'm a bit behid ;)
[23:21] <gtt> i haven't been able to move windows by double clicking and dragging the title bar after renaming xorg.conf
[23:21] <gtt> anyone got any suggestions?
[23:21] <djdarkman> yes I installed it with autogenerated debs
[23:21] <Daisuke-Ido> i didn't say use a different program, i said use a different format.
[23:22] <Mr_Sonoma> brad__,  did you get it?
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: remove the debs and install via the "./drivername.run"method.
[23:23] <B4S3M> how can i play aXXo files on kubuntu :S
[23:23] <andreas> ok now i created a .tar file
[23:23] <andreas> but still how can i make it password protected?
[23:23] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, Are you still there?
[23:23] <djdarkman> ok nosrednaekim
[23:24] <djdarkman> btw nosrednaekim isn`t the deb way safer?
[23:24] <Daisuke-Ido> you cannot add a password to a tar file, this is why i said to use a *different format*
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: not really,
[23:24] <andreas> how the heck do i do that?
[23:24] <Daisuke-Ido> the best you can do is set permissions so that others can't even see it.
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> I haven't heard of any problems useing the non-deb way. but everyone seems to have problems with the debs.
[23:25] <andreas> ok in windows you could make rar files that also have passwords for the files
[23:25] <Daisuke-Ido> rar, yes.
[23:25] <andreas> how can i do that in linux
[23:25] <andreas> ?
[23:25] <Daisuke-Ido> !rar
[23:25] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[23:27] <andreas> so what should i do now?
[23:28] <andreas> how do i set the permissions for the file?
[23:29] <ubuntu> o
[23:31] <Minataku> !pastebin
[23:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:32] <nivek> andreas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[23:32] <Alonea> what would be a good channel for general computer help? i am confused on where I am supposed to put the thermal goo.
[23:34] <nivek> Alonea: This channel is for #kubuntu support. However, you may find this guide helpful: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/274 If it still doesn't answer your question, Google is your friend.
[23:34] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: you were right, strange, last time I ran the driver it didn`t work and the deb generating mode worked... now it looks like it`s the oposite
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: yep.
[23:34] <RytmenPinnen> Hi
[23:34] <nivek> RytmenPinnen: Hello
[23:34]  * RytmenPinnen have entered for some pointless ranting :P
[23:35] <nivek> RytmenPinnen: This channel is for support. If you have a question, ask away. Otherwise, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general chatting (or ranting, I suppose, if you prefer).
[23:35] <RytmenPinnen> the thing is, Deluge is awesome, I switched from Ktorrent cause it ate about 20% of my cpu power for some reason, But
[23:35] <RytmenPinnen> gaaaaaaaaaaah
[23:35] <RytmenPinnen> wrong channel again
[23:38] <RytmenPinnen> sry about that :P, byeee
[23:42] <Alonea> nivek: thanks. that page helps a lot. bad thing with laptops is everything is smaller and I havenever done this before.
[23:51] <B4S3M> i need to run aXXo file on Kubuntu
[23:53] <nivek> B4S3M: Do you mean an aXXo .avi movie file?
[23:57] <nivek> B4S3M: If so, have you tried playing it using VLC?