[05:02] <genefitz> looner, well, in any linux distro you will have to do some xorg config work, but if you are using an nVidia card, it isn't really that difficult..
[05:02] <wolferine> XPIRX, contact someone at the remote location
[05:03] <ziroday> looner: t hat isnt going to work out of the box
[05:03] <XPIRX> wolferine Isnt there a way to do it via ssh?
[05:03] <looner> wolverine.... well i've spent months on this before and wasn't able to get it working.
[05:03] <genefitz> well, except for having the monitor in the right part of the card.. I had my monitors backwards for a while and it drove me nuts..
[05:03] <wolferine> XPIRX, not sure how many times I have to tell you
[05:03] <riotkittie> genefitz: oh he's not going to mind. the card dies and locks everything up like a hundred times a day :P
[05:04] <wolferine> looner, you know beryl is just in its beginning stages, correct?
[05:04] <genefitz> riotkittie, lol, I haven't been that "lucky" yet..
[05:04] <looner> it doesn't have to work out of the box, (even if i said that above lol), just be easy to setup. Or at least have plenty of install / setup guides that are proven to work with more than a 25% chance that it's successfu..
[05:04] <looner> i haven't even reached getting beryl to work.
[05:04] <wolferine> looner nvidia?
[05:04] <J-Wreck> compiz fusion > beryl
[05:04] <looner> i'm not buying a video card just to get it to work.
[05:05] <genefitz> looner, beryl is great, but depending on your computer and the video card you are using, it is kind of a 50/50.
[05:05] <anathematic> hi i managed to lock myself out of mysql (ubuntu server + lamp) and the command to start the mysql demon process again from the ubuntu mysql password reset wiki doesnt seem to be working
[05:05] <Pelo> J-Wreck, compiz fusion = compiz + beryl
[05:05] <wolferine> looner, who said you had to buy avideo card?
[05:05] <scipio> looner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624
[05:05] <looner> i have an ati radeon x1600
[05:05] <wolferine> looner, bingo
[05:05] <J-Wreck> Pelo, i know. I'm saying why would you run beryl, when you can have fusion
[05:05] <genefitz> not to sound pessimistic about it, but I never got beryl to work on my old computer with the 7950  nVidia, but it works like a carm on this computer with the 6100LE
[05:05] <wolferine> looner, email ati and ask them why it doesnt work easily for you, and see what they have to say
[05:06] <genefitz> carm = charm by the way..
[05:06] <looner> LOL! like i'll get a response ;)
[05:06] <genefitz> I am kind of a typo machine
[05:06] <Pelo> J-Wreck, beryl still has an eaiser configuration gui i beleive
[05:06] <wolferine> looner, you would, um.. we dont do drivers for linux, why would we support them?
[05:06] <sin2gen2> looner:  wolferine: and ask them why AIGLX isn't happening
[05:06] <slavik`lap> what was the question?
[05:06] <slavik`lap> wolferine: you work for amd?
[05:07] <wolferine> sin2gen2, im sure we could come up with lots of questions :)
[05:07] <J-Wreck> I've used both, and the config GUI's are pretty similar in ease of use for both
[05:07] <J-Wreck> at least to me
[05:07] <wolferine> slavik`lap, should I ?
[05:07] <slavik`lap> wolferine: no
[05:07] <wolferine> slavik`lap, agreed :)
[05:07] <Pelo> J-Wreck, It's been a while for me and I only realy saw screenshots of c-f
[05:07] <slavik`lap> wolferine: as I see it, amd is in a deep hole unless the pull a CPU out of their behind ... same with a GPU
[05:07] <looner> my priorities are: #1... get dual monitor to work.. and have them different (currently cloned). #2. get 3d to work WITH the dual monitors. #3. get the fancy stuff to work. ... #3 is optional., this also includes wine for games.
[05:07] <sin2gen2> yeah, where's the amd employee here?
[05:07] <J-Wreck> \me cheers
[05:08] <slavik`lap> looner: user fglrx in big desktop mode
[05:08] <genefitz> Hey, they are moving in the right direction, both nVidia and ATI are actually starting to support linux. Maybe too little too late, but what choice do we have?
[05:08] <looner> i'm currently running off the ubuntu live cd.
[05:08] <Pelo> J-Wreck,  the other way around /me ...
[05:08] <slavik`lap> s/user/use/
[05:08] <genefitz> It isn't like there are a lot of video card choices..
[05:08] <el_taco> with fakeroot if I want to add config options to the package i'm building how is that done?
[05:08] <BRUUUCE> this may sound dumb, but ubuntu downloads files much much faster. i also have osx and xp in the house. is this due to the OS or the fact ubuntu is wired in.
[05:08] <slavik`lap> genefitz: nvidia, ati, intel, matrox
[05:08] <politik> what is the proper way to launch an app as another user, like if I want a user that only runs the svn server? I've already made the user and chowned my repository, I just need to know how to launch svnserve correctly
[05:09] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  true.  but we are an impatient bunch.  support windows users second
[05:09] <slavik`lap> politik: is svn supposed to run as that user?
[05:09] <politik> slavik`lap: yep
[05:09] <genefitz> Oh yeah, I forgot about intel. lol Do they make 3d drivers now?
[05:09] <slavik`lap> politik: I mean svn itself, not the way you are setting itup
[05:09] <looner> i'm tried everything i can think of to get dual monitors to work on this machine. several flavours, etc... no luck on any. I once got dual, but no 3d.
[05:09] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  they are used to crashes and won't even notice haha
[05:09] <slavik`lap> genefitz: best supported :)
[05:09] <genefitz> sin2gen2: I feel ya there buddy
[05:09] <el_taco> looner what video card?
[05:09] <politik> slavik`lap: sorry, I don't understand
[05:09] <politik> what is "svn itself"
[05:10] <slavik`lap> politik: apache2 runs as the www-user user
[05:10] <politik> slavik`lap: right, I want to create a similar setup for svn
[05:10] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  seriously, amd is on top of the driver releases and my fglrx is extremely stable.  props to that
[05:10] <politik> I want svnserve to run as the svnserve user
[05:10] <politik> which I've already made
[05:10] <slavik`lap> politik: then su user, enter the password and run the svn daemon
[05:10] <looner> i've tried the proprietary drives, livna drivers, other drives, every guide i could think of, the native tools...
[05:10] <slavik`lap> looner: what video card?
[05:10] <politik> slavik`lap: I'd like to be able to do this from a shell script
[05:10] <looner> ati radeon x1600
[05:11] <sin2gen2> looner:  uh oh
[05:11] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I did e-mail Acer and ask about their piecer AL1916W screen and asked why I couldn't get 1440x900 resolution in Linux, they replied "What video card are you using? Well ask them."
[05:11] <politik> slavik`lap: that my usual user can launch without a prompt, that is
[05:11] <el_taco> lol LOL I have that card.. I gave up after 4 days and bought an nvidia
[05:11] <genefitz> Let me tell ya, that's the last Acer product I will ever buy..
[05:11] <sin2gen2> looner:  i have the x1300 and an x1400.  all this stuff with work with only the drivers from the site
[05:12] <wolferine> nite everyone
[05:12] <slavik`lap> politik: if the user has a password, I am not sure, if he doesn't, then I think it should work (shouldn't promt for pass)
[05:12] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  they don't know anything.  they just assemble parts and refer you.  been there
[05:12] <looner> lovely.... maybe i'll come back in a year and maybe my card will be supported by then.
[05:12] <genefitz> wolverine, Later, peace!
[05:12] <UbuntuNewb> hey what is a good p2p prog for ubuntu
[05:12] <Nunzio> Frostwire
[05:12] <el_taco> looner yeah.. I wasn't that patient
[05:12] <slavik`lap> UbuntuNewb: what do you need p2p for?
[05:13] <J-Wreck> i'm with Nunzio, frostwire is great
[05:13] <sin2gen2> looner:  just give it a few days and get it to work.  you'll learn a lot and be able to lend a hand to other unlucky ati people here
[05:13] <UbuntuNewb> why not
[05:13] <genefitz> sin2gen2, that goes for about all hardware manufacturers anymore. Like a bunch of kids and a broken window. everyone points at someone else..
[05:13] <mneptok> Nunzio: gtk-gnutella / aMule
[05:13] <slavik`lap> UbuntuNewb: I am asking, not telling
[05:13] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  it's terrible
[05:13] <slavik`lap> genefitz: it's called corporate accountability
[05:14] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  lenovo and dell know what's up.  gateway seems to be getting better.  but i only deal in laptops
[05:14] <looner> sin2gen2... i've been down the road of trying to get it to work. i'm only recently checking ubuntu out after a long break. i spent at least 2-3 months trying to get it to work.
[05:14] <slavik`lap> even though ever user agreement says that if shit breaks, you're on your own
[05:14] <sin2gen2> slavik`lap:  genefitz: or lack of it
[05:14] <genefitz> sin2gen, all it will take is one manufacturere to say "Don't worry, if you have linux, we got you covered!"
[05:14] <mneptok> !ohmy > slavik`lap
[05:14] <genefitz> When the other companies start losing money, then the whole shift will occour
[05:14] <slavik`lap> wow, 1 word and here come the !ohmy factoids
[05:15] <slavik`lap> might as well through an !o4o in there, too. :(
[05:15] <looner> genefitz! that's the funniest example i've heard!
[05:15] <sin2gen2> looner:  well shucks.  sorry about that
[05:15] <mneptok> slavik`lap: if you're familiar with the factoid, don't use the words.
[05:15] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I agree, Dell and Lenovo are picking up on the trend. Why not it is the best way to get rid of slightly outdated gear, and make money where they would usually take a loss..
[05:15] <slavik`lap> it was 1 word and would you like me to use another word with similar meaning?
[05:15] <mneptok> slavik`lap: i want you to follow the channel policies
[05:16] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i love thinkpads.  the site tells you how, with pics, to take them apart and clean them haha
[05:16] <genefitz> You can sell a P4 computer with Ubuntu for $300 - $400, and make a profit out of older gear that (the other company) can no longer use..
[05:16] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  Michael Dell uses Ubuntu, according to Slashdot
[05:16] <aajvs99> i use ubuntu
[05:16] <looner> sin2gen2, it also doesn't help that i'm the only one i know who even touches linux. That is, outside of the net
[05:17] <sin2gen2> i use ubuntu too!  wow!
[05:17] <Pelo> sin2gen2, micheal dell has computers with every OSes
[05:17] <genefitz> Really? Interesting, talk about a slap in the face of gates...lol
[05:17] <sin2gen2> looner:  you are a brave soul
[05:17] <kitche> sin2gen2, not according to Slashdot but according to his homepage
[05:17] <slavik`lap> looner: I have the only linux computer in a building of over 600 computers
[05:17] <mushroomjay> Everyone not running Ubuntu or a Debian based distro, raise your hands!
[05:17] <sin2gen2> Pelo:  i bet he has an iPhone too
[05:17] <mneptok> Pelo: i doubt he has a Mac.
[05:17] <Pelo> sin2gen2, probably
[05:18] <slavik`lap> so, looner, still need help with fglrx?
[05:18] <Pelo>
[05:18] <testingub> hi, i'm testing ubuntu, i'm running on the cd right now but i notice when i click on Add/Remove from Applications I can't find common programs that I use like apache, smartd, and others... is this because i'm running from cd right now and after i install the os it will be there or do i have to install it some other way?
[05:18] <looner> getting 3d to work is second on my list.. i want dual monitor first, unless they come hand in hand.
[05:18] <Pelo> mneptok, if he is smart he knows that part of is job is to evaluate the competition
[05:18] <Pelo> his job
[05:18] <genefitz> looner: don't feel alone, I am the only one I hang around with that uses linux. Although, I just walked my father through an Absolute Linux install for his business computer. He is excited...
[05:18] <slavik`lap> testingub: I don't think apache will be there (but your reason sounds reasonable), may I suggest trying synaptic?
[05:19] <mneptok> Pelo: if he's smart he realizes his pay rate makes such testing better suited to lower level employees ;)
[05:19] <slavik`lap> looner: it does both ...
[05:19] <genefitz> It was a junker P-2, 64 Meg ram, and a 10 Gig Hdd..
[05:19] <testingub> slavik`lap: how do i try synaptic?
[05:19] <J-Wreck> testingub, you can install them with the command "sudo apt-get install <package name>"
[05:19] <genefitz> But Linux runs like a dream on it..
[05:19] <greenkobold> about making a live cd out of my runnig distro with bootcdwrite, could anyone kindly see this output, from line 38 to 43, I have no idea of what is going on: http://paste.milk-it.net/555
[05:19] <sin2gen2> kitche:  i thought i saw a story on Slashdot a while back.  my bad
[05:19] <slavik`lap> testingub: system -> administration -> synaptic
[05:19] <J-Wreck> sin2gen2 and kitche, its quite possible a slashdot story linked to his page
[05:20] <testingub> J-Wreck: how do i view all the applications available to me via apt-get? also i don't know the root password for running off the cd
[05:20] <J-Wreck> when running off the cd, you don't need the root password
[05:20] <Pelo> testingub, there are 28k pakcages available on apt-get
[05:20] <sin2gen2> looner:  i am pretty sure you need the drivers on the AMD site and not the restricted xorg-driver-fglrx from Ubuntu for the x1600.  anyone else?
[05:20] <kitche> you don't need the root password at all but on the livecd you jsut press enter I believe and it works
[05:20] <testingub> slavik`lap: i see i found a lot mroe stuff there than the Add/Remove program
[05:20] <slavik`lap> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665
[05:20] <genefitz> J-Wreck: I thought in live mode, Root Password was root..
[05:21] <genefitz> <~~ could be wrong
[05:21] <mushroomjay> I'm having trouble installing Firefox 2, could someone who is willing to help please start a private chat?
[05:21] <testingub> ok what is the Add/Remove program managing then? i have different packages?
[05:21] <slavik`lap> testingub: because synaptic lists everything available in the repositories, add/remove doesn't
[05:21] <J-Wreck> I think there is no root/sudo password in live mode
[05:21] <testingub> slavik`lap: what is the point of add/remove then?
[05:21] <genefitz> J-Wreck, you are probably right..
[05:21] <Pelo> testingub, add/remove covers only applications,  not the rest,  you can view more in synaptic pacakge manager in the admin menu
[05:21] <slavik`lap> testingub: add/remove only has some selected apps
[05:21] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  sudo passwd root haha
[05:21] <looner> K I'LL PRINT THAT OUT.
[05:21] <genefitz> <~~ the oddball here, Using Fedora KDE and hanging out in Ubuntu chat...lol
[05:21] <looner> bah!
[05:21] <slavik`lap> testingub: don't you think add/remove is a bit "easier" to use?
[05:21] <looner> dang caps
[05:22] <mneptok> sin2gen2: please don't. not even joking.
[05:22] <slavik`lap> genefitz: use a real distro :P
[05:22] <seanj> my computer didn't like Fedora :/
[05:22] <patattack> hey all, I am having problems playing DVD movies. I can't even get them to play in VLC
[05:22] <slavik`lap> !restricted
[05:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <sin2gen2> <-- on the Gentoo iBook and hanging out in #ubuntu
[05:22] <testingub> slavik`lap: no, they both seem the same
[05:22] <slavik`lap> testingub: but add/remove has ratings and such
[05:22] <genefitz> slavik'lap: Ubuntu gives this computer hell, for some reason...lol
[05:23] <genefitz> lol Pelo
[05:23] <slavik`lap> Pelo: don't be a distribution "germans during WW2 time"
[05:23] <seanj> Pelo: me too, with a new, crappier keyboard
[05:23] <testingub> thanks guys
[05:23] <Pelo> slavik`lap, tar and feathers are american wild west
[05:23] <xs4545x> hey all
[05:23] <testingub> do you guys consider ubuntu good as a server as well or is it good just as a desktop?
[05:23] <xs4545x> i just ran into a problem with ubuntu
[05:24] <mushroomjay> Fedora is a better server.
[05:24] <J-Wreck> whats your problem xs4545x?
[05:24] <slavik`lap> testingub: I consider freebsd a better server :P but a bit more difficult to set up
[05:24] <Montaro> ubuntu is very good as a server
[05:24] <slavik`lap> !ask | xs4545x
[05:24] <ubotu> xs4545x: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <looner> i'll be back after i try this new guide
[05:24] <testingub> slavik`lap: right, i am using freebsd but i'm considering something else for my webs ervers
[05:24] <seanj> !restricted
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <seanj> ah great
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss2
[05:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:24] <xs4545x> j-wreck: it's not muck of a problem but when i enable the desktop effects i lost the ability to select windows
[05:24] <slavik`lap> but, I can set up a basic lamp server with ubuntu in 2 hours, that includes installing ubuntu
[05:24] <testingub> slavik`lap: <3 freebsd carp, pf, and all that good stuff
[05:24] <Montaro> slavik`lap: i have to agree freebsd is probably a better server, specificly due to its unsurpassed memory management just to name a few features.. but ubuntu is still the only linux distro i would use
[05:25] <slavik`lap> testingub: I suggest staying with freebsd :)
[05:25] <slavik`lap> Montaro: freebsd isn'tlinux :P
[05:25] <genefitz> seanj: never buy a crappy keyboard. When I built this box, I got the $4.99 special at fry's, it lasted all the way till I connected it to my computer. The Esc key got stuck. I took it apart to fix it, they keys went all over the place, the rest of it flew across the room, and I went to best buy for a new (better) keyboard...lol
[05:25] <testingub> slavik`lap: and only using ubuntu as a desktop os?
[05:25] <seanj> genefitz: lol, sounds like my last keyboard
[05:25] <Montaro> slavik`lap: i know, im just saying if u were gonna go linux, i'd go ubuntu. otherwise stick with freebsd :P
[05:25] <seanj> this one is err... Microsoft :/
[05:25] <mneptok> FreeBSD >4.x is .... meh.
[05:25] <patattack> genefitz: dude, I only buy cheep keyboards. Even the best keyboard is not beer proof
[05:26] <macaholic> I like ubuntu because of the awesome support there is, and very active development :D
[05:26] <J-Wreck> xs4545x, you could try install compiz-fusion
[05:26] <mneptok> anyhow, this is offtopic
[05:26] <J-Wreck> it works much better then the built in effects
[05:26] <slavik`lap> if you want to be able to configure things easily, ubuntu. if you want blood, debian. if you also want to learn what runs on very powerful computers (SPARC), the solaris, if you want something that just works no matter what (and not linux),then freebsd
[05:26] <sin2gen2> patattack:  Goodwill $1 variety withstands beer pretty good
[05:26] <xs4545x> installing compiz fussion...
[05:26] <xs4545x> hmm
[05:26] <mneptok> please move the distro/Unix choice discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:26] <xs4545x> i'll take a look
[05:26] <genefitz> patattack, well, I didn't look at the keyboard when I bought it, it had the old style (huge) connection on it, instead of PS2, so I had to use that huge adapter and all that...
[05:26] <macaholic> compiz fusion is the shit
[05:27] <macaholic> its come so far in such a short time
[05:27] <slavik`lap> !ohmy > macaholic
[05:27] <J-Wreck> xs4545x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[05:27] <testingub> how do i setup a raid 1 setup during the install of ubuntu?
[05:27] <patattack> sin2gen2: yeah, and to top it all off, I've taken a hammer to a couple of keyboards
[05:27] <slavik`lap> might as well beat mneptok at it
[05:27] <genefitz> It wasn't very pretty to begin with.. I replaced it with a $20 micro
[05:27] <proqesi> I have an RALink 2500 wireless card I can't seem to get working, is there a howto on setting it up?  I'm using ubuntu server
[05:27] <sin2gen2> patattack:  they deserve it
[05:27] <testingub> i'm at the prepare partitions place
[05:27] <Pelo> !raid > testingub check your private message windows for a message from ubot3
[05:27] <mneptok> slavik`lap: do you really want to pick a fight with me?
[05:27] <patattack> genefitz: ahh, an AT keyboard, I think I have one of those somewhere
[05:27] <proqesi> !wireless
[05:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:27] <slavik`lap> mneptok: not yet in any case
[05:27] <mneptok> slavik`lap: please take one giant step backwards out of my face.
[05:27] <looner> problem already... i can't install "module-assistant"
[05:28] <slavik`lap> !offtopic | mneptok
[05:28] <ubotu> mneptok: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:28] <slavik`lap> :)
[05:28] <genefitz> patattack, well, needless to say, Gene learned a lesson not to buy anything without lookin at it.. lol
[05:28] <sin2gen2> looner:  pastebin the error, if you will
[05:28] <mneptok> slavik`lap: stop. it. now.
[05:28] <mneptok> clear?
[05:28] <Vic1ous> hey can someone help me i'm new to ubuntu/linux i installed ubuntu 64 but everytime it gets installed and goes to boot i get a black screen
[05:28] <Vic1ous> i have a 8800gtx graphics card i dont know if that helps
[05:29] <Vic1ous> i checked etc/X11/xorg.conf and it showed driver as "nv"
[05:29] <Montaro> Vic1ous: do you have a 64bit processor? :P
[05:29] <looner> http://pastebin.ca/659114
[05:29] <Vic1ous> yes
[05:29] <mneptok> slavik`lap: why? you picked fights with the wrong people there, too?
[05:29] <Montaro> just checking ;)
[05:29] <genefitz> Vic1ous, hmm, let me see what I can find for ya..
[05:29] <patattack> genefitz: haha, I think we have all done that, gene. it's kind of like marrying a woman without "knowing" her first
[05:29] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  change the video to vesa for now, i suggest
[05:29] <macaholic> just black or is there text and if so what does it say?
[05:29] <slavik`lap> mneptok: I just don't think that 1 fould word deserves an !ohmy, especially inside of a privmsg
[05:29] <Vic1ous> so change the driver to vesa
[05:30] <genefitz> patattack, does this mean I should cancel my russian bride service? ;-)
[05:30] <mneptok> slavik`lap: you are entitled to your opinion. you are not entitled to be an ass to my face.
[05:30] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  just to get things going.  you can work on the nvidia driver later
[05:30] <patattack> genefitz: I am not one to discourage brining new breeding stock into this country...
[05:30] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  i use the drivers from Nvidia for my cards.  it has a decent installer
[05:30] <feross> hello is there a way to install .pup packages in ubuntu?
[05:30] <genefitz> patattack, lol
[05:31] <Vic1ous> ok i'm booting into recovery mode right now
[05:31] <kitche> feross, is that for puppy if it is then no
[05:31] <J-Wreck> not that I know of, feross
[05:31] <Pelo> feross, what the heck is a pup package ?
[05:31] <patattack> ok, so I've installed the restricted packages, which I never did on my previous install, and DVD still wont work.
[05:31] <J-Wreck> Pelo, they are for Puppy Linux
[05:31] <patattack> in fact, ubuntu says that it is a blank disc
[05:31] <J-Wreck> you can most likely find a .deb of anything that has a .pup, however
[05:31] <proqesi> hmm, is there any wireless howto for ubuntu server 7.04?  I don't have a UI
[05:31] <feross> kitche: yeah, puppy linux  < Pelo
[05:31] <genefitz> Vic1ous, you may want to look here, it deals with your issue, feisty and the 8800GTX http://www.robdian.co.uk/content/view/56/
[05:32] <Pelo> feross,  get the source and compile it , it is probably much safer
[05:32] <Vic1ous> ok thx
[05:32] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  once in vesa you can configure restricted nvidia drivers or the Nvidia binaries from the site and a little xorg modification for the proper res
[05:32] <Vic1ous> i chenged the driver to "vesa" i'm rebooting now
[05:32] <Pelo> feross,  or better yes, check the repos first
[05:32] <feross> Pelo: been looking for it. It's the remotedesktopclient ... it works better than the ubuntu one
[05:32] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  might need a vga=### option in grub if you can't see the Ubuntu usplash, as well
[05:32] <genefitz> Vic1ous, here is where I started http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=523812
[05:32] <oTToRoCk>
[05:33] <Pelo> feross, google the name , it should be available , all FOSS is supose to be
[05:33] <Vic1ous> ok it did the same thing with changing it to "vesa"
[05:33] <slavik`lap> who had the livecd thingy problem?
[05:33] <el_taco> with fakeroot if I want to add config options to the package i'm building how is that done?
[05:33] <slavik`lap> fakeroot vim config.file
[05:34] <feross> Pelo: when I said I'd been looking for it I didn't mean in my living room... ofcourse I googled it ;P ..
[05:34] <el_taco> slavik`lap thanks
[05:34] <ker> #panas
[05:34] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  do you see the Grub menu or press ESC dialogue on boot?
[05:34] <Vic1ous> yea
[05:34] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  and it boots the image?
[05:34] <Pelo> feross, I meant no insult,  the skill level of  ppl here varies greatly
[05:34] <Vic1ous> yea
[05:34] <Vic1ous> from the cd anyways
[05:34] <Vic1ous> when it boots hd
[05:35] <feross> Pelo: no prob, I'm just bustin your nuts ;P
[05:35] <feross> thanks
[05:35] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  what happens after the install stuff and a reboot?
[05:35] <Vic1ous> it showed Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.20-15generic
[05:35] <looner> that error tell you anything?
[05:35] <jisatsu> how can I make a script run as part of the boot sequence? I need to run a script to configure my wireless every time I boot
[05:35] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  and when you boot that?
[05:36] <Vic1ous> black screen
[05:36] <knoppix> !mountwindowsshare
[05:36] <Pelo> feross, should be available on he puppy linux site, somewhere, probably burried deep
[05:36] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  you never see any words go by?
[05:36] <feross> yeah
[05:36] <patattack> does anyone know why my DVD burner would see a DVD movie as a blank disc? Not even VLC will play it. I've done the restricted packages install. On my last feisty install it worked fine, with only VLC
[05:36] <Vic1ous> for like 2 seconds
[05:36] <Vic1ous> then it black screens
[05:36] <slavik`lap> !ntfs | knoppix
[05:36] <ubotu> knoppix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:37] <mushroomjay> Hi everyone. I need help installing flash.
[05:37] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  does it ever re-appear after the splash (you can't see the splash but X might start if you wait a few minutes)
[05:37] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I actually want to share a thing so other computers can see it
[05:37] <xs4545x> hi mushroomjay
[05:37] <slavik`lap> mushroomjay: adobe has a package with an install script
[05:37] <xs4545x> that is something i just did today
[05:37] <Pelo> !flash | mushroomjay just install it from the repos
[05:37] <ubotu> mushroomjay just install it from the repos: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:37] <xs4545x> totally easy
[05:37] <slavik`lap> knoppix: read about samba :)
[05:37] <Vic1ous> no i waited for like 20 minutes
[05:37] <Vic1ous> nothin happened
[05:37] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I know about samba, I just have a life and don't memorize commands
[05:37] <mushroomjay> I know, but it says to place the .tar.gz in the firefox directory in usr/lib.
[05:37] <mushroomjay> It won't let me write files there.
[05:37] <slavik`lap> knoppix: neither do I :(
[05:37] <knoppix> I'm just looking for the wiki page on it
[05:38] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  ok.  i would boot the LiveCD (install disk)
[05:38] <genefitz> Ya know, I never realized how much time it took to transfer 70 Gigs through a network..
[05:38] <Vic1ous> and when in recovery mode and i type "startx" it says server x not installed apt-get serverx
[05:38] <kdubois> i can't play mp3 files in rhythmbox. ogg works alright, and mp3 works in vlc. I dont know wahts going on here... any ideas?
[05:38] <Vic1ous> so i type apt-get
[05:38] <xs4545x> mushroomjay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-3f4b65ab5f0a93fab9b45dae1d5059723720b802
[05:38] <Pelo> mushroomjay,   in the terminal type  gksu nautilus  that will give you root access to drag drop
[05:38] <Vic1ous> and it says apt-get not installed
[05:38] <genefitz> I think my router is just going to say "to hell with this guy"
[05:38] <rpedro> hello, is there a list of the community sites that were compromised earlier?
[05:38] <looner> i wonder how much it would cost to get someone to setup ubuntu the way i want on my pc. Then show me how.
[05:38] <mushroomjay> Thanks, xs4545x.
[05:38] <xs4545x> no problem
[05:39] <xs4545x> everybody is helping me so if i can i will help where i can
[05:39] <knoppix> hey guys how do I share things so windows computers can see them
[05:39] <koroke> hello  room
[05:39] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  from the install CD's environment you can remove the option to have the splash kick off
[05:39] <maxxism> knoppix use samba
[05:39] <Pelo> looner, 250 $ for one year of support 9-5
[05:39] <genefitz> rpedro, apparently not too many, I have been in the community sites, welll, at least for the last 3 hours
[05:39] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[05:39] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  and see where, exactly, the machine hangs
[05:39] <knoppix> maxxism, I know about samba...
[05:39] <shiester_miester> does ubuntu support touch-screens on laptops and such?
[05:39] <Vic1ous> where is the splash kick off options
[05:39] <knoppix> I'm just wondering if you know a tutorial on it
[05:39] <slavik`lap> knoppix: right click and click share?
[05:40] <knoppix> I don't remember the exact commands
[05:40] <slavik`lap> knoppix: set up nfs :)
[05:40] <maxxism> knoppix then you knew the answer to your question
[05:40] <knoppix> slavik`lap, there you go, I forgot it waqs that easy haha
[05:40] <xs4545x> anyway, i'm looking at this document for installing compiz-fusion and in updating my repositories it says to use the deb command...  for some reason i'm missing this and can't find it in synaptic
[05:40] <genefitz> knoppix, Samba is probably the best tool for file sharing in KDE
[05:40] <lmosher> I'm being haunted by a ghost partition. I delete the partition in GParted, reboot the liveCD, and run GParted. When I try to create a new partition it somehow finds the old partition and automounts it... then mkfs complains that the partition is mounted so it obviously can't write a new partition!
[05:40] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:40] <rpedro> genefitz: I'm just wondering if any popular repos are involved....
[05:40] <knoppix> maxxism, whatever
[05:40] <looner> pelo, there a "if they can't do it i get my money back" guarantee?
[05:40] <lmosher> How do I repair my disk... this is crazy.
[05:40] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  you can turn off the "splash" setting and reboot
[05:40] <slavik`lap> lmosher: define "repair"
[05:40] <genefitz> rpedro, I am not sure..
[05:40] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  then choose the image and see where it boinks
[05:40] <Pelo> looner, I wouldn'T know I just gave you the raite for the cannonical commercial support
[05:40] <shiester_miester> I'm thinking about buying a laptop with sone of those cool stylus screen thingies, but I'm not sure if ubuntu supports it
[05:41] <kdubois> shiester_miester: i'm on a tablet right now. it works great. stylus worked out of the box. thinkpad x61 tablet
[05:41] <slavik`lap> shiester_miester: a tablet pc? call them and ask, if they don't support us, tell them you will take your business elsewhere and don't buy from them
[05:41] <Pelo> shiester_miester,  ifyou have a model number look it up here and in the forum  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:41] <Chrisie> hiya, with GAIM 2 is there any way to tell it what range of ports to use for dcc
[05:41] <slavik`lap> us = linux
[05:41] <shiester_miester> thats great to hear, kdubois\
[05:41] <genefitz> knoppix, I use Samba for my network shares.. I haven't ever had an issue.. What exactly are you looking at doing?
[05:41] <feross> Pelo: ok, found it in freshmeat... going to install
[05:42] <Pelo> feross, best of luck
[05:42] <Vic1ous> k i'm booting into the live cd now
[05:42] <lmosher> slavik`lap: Read the line above. I want to be able to build a partition - right now when I go to build a partition, gparted somehow magically finds the old (deleted) partition and mounts it.
[05:42] <looner> bah. screw it. i can't figure this out. I'm going back to crapdows xp :S I'll check back in a year and see if things have gotten better.
[05:42] <knoppix> genefitz, yeah I don't have an issue either, I'm just trying to share a file/folder using samba but can't see how, I'm on KDE, but on gnome, I just right clicked the file, on KDE there doesn't seem to be a 'share' option
[05:42] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  do you know how to mount your hd in linux?
[05:42] <Vic1ous> sudo gparted?
[05:42] <Pelo> looner, the next release is in 2 monhs
[05:42] <tacos> anyone know how to connect a ubuntu machine to a domain run by server 2008?
[05:42] <looner> k 2 months then ;)
[05:43] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  nah
[05:43] <Vic1ous> i tried =p
[05:43] <shiester_miester> anyone seen bruenig around?
[05:43] <genefitz> knoppix, you are trying to share files from a gnome to a KDE computer?
[05:43] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  everything is installed we just want to edit a little bit
[05:43] <xs4545x> seriously, the deb command?  wtf is that
[05:43] <shiester_miester> genefitz, the GUI isn't responsible for file sharing, thats what the networking services do, and samba, I believe
[05:43] <knoppix> genefitz, uh, no, I said that in GNOME I just right click a file and click 'share' to share it using samba, but on KDE there is no such feature that I can see, so how else do I do it, is there a terminal command for it?
[05:44] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  open a terminal from Accessories -> Terminal
[05:44] <scratchme> Hi all.
[05:44] <shiester_miester> gday
[05:44] <shiester_miester> coi!
[05:44] <genefitz> knoppix, okay, hold on let me see if I can find you a solution..
[05:44] <Vic1ous> hey sin2gen2 can i pm u cause i'm having to jump between computers and i'm losing my place
[05:44] <scratchme> What's a nice development app that has a Visual Studio "feel" to it?
[05:44] <hotdog003> I need help getting ndiswrapper in 1.8 working in feisty. It seems like it won't compile.
[05:44] <knoppix> genefitz, thanks I appreciate it
[05:44] <scratchme> That works in Ubuntu that is.
[05:44] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  yep
[05:44] <shiester_miester> scratchme, what aspect of visual studio are you after?
[05:44] <greenkobold> there seems to be a file here that is not aceessible to the super user. mkisofs: Permission denied. cannot open '/sys/module/sbs/parameters/capacity_mode' how can i allow root to open it?
[05:44] <shiester_miester> visual basic? c++?
[05:45] <lmosher> Can someone help me un-brick my laptop? Right now I'm just trying to build an ext3 partition from GParted in the liveCD and it won't let me make a partition.
[05:45] <scratchme> shiester_miester, syntax completion, code highlighting, etc.
[05:45] <kdubois> scratchme: i use geany, its real lightweight though. try eclipse if you're looking for something a little bit heavy duty, i think
[05:45] <kdubois> anjuta is pretty good too
[05:45] <knoppix> scratchme, if .Net, get Monodevelop
[05:45] <knoppix> scratchme, there is also KDevelop and Anjuta
[05:45] <scratchme> Is the C# plugin for eclipse getting any traction?
[05:45] <knoppix> scratchme, dude, if you want C# support, you can't get anything better than monodevelop, trust me...
[05:45] <genefitz> okay knoppix, I think I have your solution..
[05:46] <knoppix> genefitz, thanks
[05:46] <shiester_miester> scratchme, lots of IDE's have those features
[05:46] <genefitz> Knoppix, right click on the file you want to share, and hit "properties"
[05:46] <knoppix> genefitz, okay
[05:46] <shiester_miester> scratchme, I suggest you google "linux [visual basic/c++]  IDE" and look for one with those features
[05:46] <tacos> anyone know how to join an ubuntu machine to a server 2008 domain?
[05:46] <shiester_miester> but I'm positive you will find some
[05:46] <genefitz> there should be a share tab on the box that comes up.
[05:46] <scratchme> shiester_miester, knoppix kdubois, thanks for your suggestions.
[05:46] <scratchme> I appreciate your input.
[05:47] <knoppix> scratchme, listen, I'm a C# programmer, monodevelop is the best you can get on linux at the moment
[05:47] <knoppix> scratchme, no problem
[05:47] <jstarcher> where do I get Tcl?
[05:47] <shiester_miester> no worries
[05:47] <xs4545x> oh jesus, i'm such a newb.  i'm not even reading this right
[05:47] <shiester_miester> knoppix, what other languages does it support
[05:47] <knoppix> genefitz, there isn't, but don't worry man it's alright
[05:47] <shiester_miester> xs4545x, dont worry, we all are noobs relative to someone else ;)
[05:47] <knoppix> shiester_miester, it supports pretty much any .Net language
[05:47] <slavik`lap> anjuta, kdevelop, codeblocks (more complicated), single file type = geany, gedit
[05:47] <lmosher> How do I tell the Ubuntu LiveCD -NOT- to mount my swap partiton (so I can delete it) or how can I get it to stop using it so i can delete it while in the liveCD?
[05:47] <scratchme> knoppix, for mono development is the packages in 7.04 for mono sufficient?
[05:47] <genefitz> Okay knoppix, sorry I couldn't be more help..
[05:47] <knoppix> C#.Net, VB.Net, Boo, etc.
[05:47] <shiester_miester> knoppix, c++, oldschool?
[05:47] <sin2gen2> tacos:  wow.  you want to share files of have the thing in Active Directory?
[05:47] <shiester_miester> can't say I'm crazy about all the .net stuff...
[05:48] <slavik`lap> knoppix: do you write .net code or mono code?
[05:48] <ProN00b> hmm, does mono develop open .net studio 2k5 projects ?
[05:48] <knoppix> shiester_miester, no...but you can get another IDE for that, Anjuta or KDevelop
[05:48] <knoppix> slavik`lap, they're the same thing...
[05:48] <knoppix> slavik`lap, And yes I do
[05:48] <slavik`lap> knoppix: not really, last someone told me, mono didn't support C# 2.0 well
[05:48] <lmosher> Can someone help me, or is talking about programming languages -really- what this channel is about?
[05:48] <slavik`lap> or whatever C# 2.0 is supposed to be
[05:48] <knoppix> slavik`lap, well, what I mean is that there isn't a .Net code nor Mono code, they're just frameworks and specificsations
[05:49] <knoppix> *specificatoins
[05:49] <knoppix> you know what I mean
[05:49] <slavik`lap> lmosher: if you have a problem, we will try to help, otherwise ... depends
[05:49] <scratchme> lmosher, when help is free, just be patient, and re-ask from time to time.
[05:49] <RudyValencia> lmosher: try swapoff /dev/sda# (whatever your swap partition is)
[05:49] <knoppix> unless you're referring to ILDASM, which few mess with anyways
[05:49] <tacos> anyone know how to connect an ubuntu machine to a server 2008 domain?
[05:49] <slavik`lap> knoppix: do you also say that .net code is portable because of mono?
[05:49] <slavik`lap> tacos: man samba
[05:50] <shiester_miester> knoppix, lol i thought you wrote ISLAM
[05:50] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Thanks! :)
[05:50] <sin2gen2> tacos:  to share files or put it in Active Directory
[05:50] <sin2gen2> ?
[05:50] <irawan> hi, does anyone know the port numbers which address the LPT2 and LPT3 of D-Link DP-303 print server?
[05:50] <tacos> to share
[05:50] <tacos> well both if possible
[05:50] <slavik`lap> tacos: man samba
[05:50] <knoppix> slavik`lap, what are you on about? what's your point?
[05:50] <RudyValencia> np
[05:50] <slavik`lap> or better yet, google
[05:50] <RudyValencia> lmosher did it work?
[05:50] <W00t> I have a question about Mounting a Partition
[05:50] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Thanks! That was my problem. -stupid- liveCD was using the Swap on the disk, so I couldn't alter the partition table.. GParted wasn't returning any errors, it said it was working... but on reboot nothing was changing. Now it should work.
[05:51] <W00t> hello?
[05:51] <sin2gen2> tacos:  you can right click on a folder, and share it via Samba and windows boxes will see the share
[05:51] <solekiller_> what the hell does this msg mean: E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:51] <shiester_miester> gday w00t
[05:51] <shiester_miester> !justask | W00t
[05:51] <ubotu> W00t: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <tacos> singen2: do you know what a domain is?
[05:51] <slavik`lap> knoppix: many .net devs say that .net is portable on linux because mono "supports it" (there was a time when 'winforms' weren't supported)
[05:51] <RudyValencia> lmosher: yeah, turn swap off before you try to change your partition table dear ;D
[05:51] <sin2gen2> tacos:  yep
[05:51] <solekiller_> help?
[05:51] <solekiller_> what the hell does this msg mean: E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:51] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: there was a problem installing it
[05:51] <solekiller_> humz
[05:51] <W00t> I have a strange, but hopefully easy to fix problem. Usually if you want to run a dual boot system, for example, ubuntu and windows xp, you would splite the harddrive into two partitions
[05:51] <genefitz> sin2gen2, in fedora KDE, I have to right click and bring up properties to configure sharing for Samba
[05:51] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Yeah I didn't realize that was happening... teaches me to use a graphical stuff I should just build my partitions w/ fdisk from now on :)
[05:51] <knoppix> slavik`lap, well, it seems to me like you're just trying to bash them. I don't believe people should rely on mono for cross platform reasons, though
[05:51] <solekiller_> and further more?
[05:52] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: pastebin the whole thing
[05:52] <solekiller_> it is the whoule thing
[05:52] <slavik`lap> knoppix: good, you're not one of "them"
[05:52] <shiester_miester> W00t, yes
[05:52] <solekiller_> =/
[05:52] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  tacos: i should have asked the window manager, i suppose.  my bad
[05:52] <mariko> i cannot play open wma in movie player but can in vlc (however in vlc i get no sound). i have all codecs running dapper. help!
[05:52] <W00t> I have a strange, but hopefully easy to fix problem. Usually if you want to run a dual boot system, for example, ubuntu and windows xp, you would splite the harddrive into two partitions. I have done this, but my computer wo'nt give me the option to pick weather i want to start windows or linux in the beginning, it just forces windows
[05:52] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: dunno what to say :(
[05:52] <shiester_miester> who are "they"?
 it is the whole thing
[05:52] <W00t> it didn't used to do this
[05:52] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I mean I wouldn't compare .Net languages to be portable just because mono exists as compared to C which is a lot more portable, but whether or not it's portable, by definition, it is
[05:52] <RudyValencia> lmosher: you can still use GUI tools but you should also know the commandline ;D
 do you think i should reinstall ubuntu
[05:52] <derekho> I'm just wondering how the ubuntu servers are doing. I just read the news that they were hacked?
[05:52] <slavik`lap> W00t: reinstall grub to the mbr
[05:52] <shiester_miester> W00t, did you install ubuntu or windows xp first?
 i did play alot with the drivers
[05:53] <W00t> well, at frist, i installed windows first, then ubuntu
[05:53] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I am assuming KDS seeings as the name says Knoppix (standard live CD user name)
[05:53] <W00t> then my windows partition crashed
[05:53] <mikebot> How can I play *.mov files in ubuntu?
[05:53] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I love .Net, and although I'm not that much of a fanboy I definitely dislike people who bash it without trying or learning about it
[05:53] <shiester_miester> hmm
[05:53] <genefitz> KDE even
[05:53] <mikebot> I think I am missing a codec of some sort.
[05:53] <W00t> so i formated the windows partition, and reinstalled it
[05:53] <shiester_miester> theres your problem, w00t
[05:53] <W00t> and after that
[05:53] <W00t> yes, i know
[05:53] <W00t> but how is it fixed
[05:53] <shiester_miester> windows does not tolerate grub
[05:53] <W00t> that is why i am here
[05:53] <genefitz> Does knoppix have gnome now?
[05:53] <shiester_miester> you have to reinstall grub
[05:53] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  oh yeah
[05:53] <genefitz> I never used it..
[05:53] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: no ... I am pretty sure it is something simple ... try to uninstall it (if dpkg thinks it installed) and then sudo apt-get update and install it again ... if same thing happens, collect info and file a bug
[05:53] <BlankDenim> genefitz, gnoppix?
[05:53] <shiester_miester> genefitz, gnome runs on any linux platform, I believe
[05:54] <solekiller_> k
[05:54] <slavik`lap> W00t: search the wiki for it, there is a guide there
[05:54] <solekiller_> ariza1
[05:54] <W00t> reinstalling grub?
[05:54] <genefitz> I wasn't sure seeings as knoppix is pretty much a live platform..
[05:54] <slavik`lap> W00t: yes
[05:54] <W00t> i feel it's important to stress that i have important information on my linux partition that i do not want to lose
[05:54] <W00t> will this affect any of that informatiion?
[05:54] <slavik`lap> W00t: grub is the boot manager
[05:54] <W00t> so it will not affect my information?
[05:54] <solekiller_> mbr
[05:54] <slavik`lap> mbr lies outside of any partition you can create
[05:54] <solekiller_> yup yup
[05:55] <W00t> thank you sole
[05:55] <W00t> i appreciate your help
[05:55] <shiester_miester> W00t, grub doesnt go on the partition
[05:55] <slavik`lap> W00t: if it does, something is seriously wrong with grub,you can also install an ext2fs driver for windows if you like
[05:55] <shiester_miester> W00t, besides, you should backup important information anyway
[05:55] <W00t> well, i have it backed up
[05:55] <W00t> but it's really unorganized
[05:55] <W00t> so...
[05:55] <W00t> i'd rather just do this
[05:55] <shiester_miester> yep
[05:55] <shiester_miester> good
[05:55] <genefitz> Yeah, grub on primary partition means boot disk city.. Not all that fun
[05:56] <slavik`lap> genefitz: what you talking about, willis?
[05:56] <genefitz> Especially if you are cheap like me and won't shell out for a floppy drive
[05:56] <shiester_miester> lol, thats extremely cheap
[05:56] <slavik`lap> grub installs itself to the mbr ...
[05:56] <shiester_miester> you can get a floppy drive for less than $10 here
[05:57] <genefitz> slavik'lap, on some distros, I think on most or all, you can load grub somewhere other than the MBR, but it requires a boot disk..
[05:57] <mariko> can anyone help me get sound working on dapper. i want to play wma files , i got all the codecs but still no sound
[05:57] <slavik`lap> mbr grub has enough info to mount the /boot partition and read the rest of the stuff (and load it's other piece)
[05:57] <genefitz> As I said, not a lot of fun if you don't have a floppy drive
[05:57] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap and genefitz: I'm back
[05:57] <slavik`lap> or whatever has /boot
[05:57] <shiester_miester> genefitz, why is that? modern mobo's can boot from usb sticks, they work quite well as substitute floppies
[05:57] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: I don't know you
[05:57] <genefitz> welcome back BlankDenim
[05:57] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: I was the one talking about .Net with you... (knoppix)
[05:57] <slavik`lap> not that I want to :P
[05:57] <slavik`lap> ahh
[05:58] <genefitz> sheister_meister, you know, I never thought about that...
[05:58] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: the .net code, is it for windows systems?
[05:58] <shiester_miester> me neither
[05:58] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: what do you mean?
[05:58] <genefitz> information I could have used about 6 months ago when I kept re-loading linux wondering why I could never get it to boot...lol
[05:58] <shiester_miester> genefitz, until I saw this http://flashlinux.org.uk/
[05:58] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: do you write C# for primary use on windows systems or for everything?
[05:59] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: Of course it depends, that's like asking if I write C++ cross platform or platform dependent, it depends on the project of course
[05:59] <banyunet> jailan_lances
[05:59] <ProN00b> windows .net programs don't work on linux mono because of the windows.forms stuff, right ?
[05:59] <genefitz> sheister, yeah, well, the kicker of it, is that I have DSL loaded on a jump drive and I never thought about using a jump drive as a boot disk..
[05:59] <genefitz> You know, sometimes we can all be foolish...lol
[06:00] <glitch> How do I open the package manager GUI in Ubuntu?
[06:00] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: here's a question regarding gathering info on a windows computer ... any faster way to do it than running msinfo32?
[06:00] <solekiller> wth does this mean? E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:00] <slavik`lap> glitch: system -> admin -> synaptic
[06:00] <glitch> Thank you
[06:00] <genefitz> <~~ pretty smart, but very absent minded
[06:01] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: when a program is unpacked from a .deb file, there is a script that sets up certain things after the program is put into the right place ... that script failed:(
[06:01] <user_> aku
[06:01] <solekiller> ubuntu server is part of freenode?
[06:01] <shiester_miester> genefitz, exactly like me :P
[06:01] <shiester_miester> solekiller, obviously :P
[06:01] <solekiller> omfg!!!
[06:01] <shiester_miester> since you had to join irc.freenode.net to get to this channel
[06:01] <solekiller> nope
[06:01] <magick2> this is really odd.. i'm missing the title bar on all my programs.. the bar that has the _ [square]  X at the top
[06:02] <solekiller> irc.ubuntu.net
[06:02] <jeff_> hello could anyone please advise me on this issue I desperately need assistance http://pastebin.ca/659144
[06:02] <magick2> doesn't matter what i start, its missing
[06:02] <slavik`lap> solekiller, the answer is still yes
[06:02] <shiester_miester> solekiller, wait, what did you mean by "ubuntu server"
[06:02] <Devo> When I try and install Code::blocks I am getting dependency errors, why?
[06:02] <shiester_miester> did you mean the web server or the irc channel?
[06:02] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: haha what's that got to do with anything? If it's just off topic, I don't know honestly man
[06:02] <slavik`lap> Devo: because they are not installed
[06:02] <solekiller> ubuntu.com
[06:02] <Devo> slavik`lap: Thanks.
[06:02] <solekiller> yeah i know its yes
[06:02] <solekiller> now
[06:02] <solekiller> i looked after in the motd
[06:02] <solekiller> and saw the redirect
[06:02] <solekiller> lolz
[06:03] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: because we had this piece of software developed in house and I even had to write a perl script to deliver same output from macs ... was out of curiousity (since I don't write C# code)
[06:04] <shiester_miester> solekiller, ubuntu.com has nothing to do with #ubuntu irc channel
[06:04] <anathematic> does anyone know of a program on ubuntu server to automatically backup my mysql server?
[06:04] <shiester_miester> one is a website and one is an irc channel
[06:04] <solekiller> E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:04] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: well if you're wondering from an end-user point of view, I honestly don't know, I've never looked into it, from a programmer's stand-point, there are specific API calls you can do, but I'm not an expert in that, I'm sure you can look into WMI or something
[06:04] <solekiller> same error
[06:04] <shiester_miester> ubuntu.com is most likely hosted on its own webserver
[06:04] <slavik`lap> if power corrupts, then why do we power our hard drives?they will get corrupted anyway ...
[06:04] <solekiller> omfg
[06:04] <solekiller> i mean multy server net
[06:04] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: I had to use wmi through vbscript, not pleasant
[06:05] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: haha, that's because you chose vbscript
[06:05] <slavik`lap> solekiller, it could be 100 servers, you wouldn't know
[06:05] <solekiller> the irc.ubuntu.com is part of the irc.freenode net
[06:05] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: I didn't choose it, phb did... I had to learn it
[06:05] <shiester_miester> oooh
[06:05] <solekiller> i do know
[06:05] <mushroomjay> Can anyone help me with installing Java?
[06:05] <shiester_miester> i guess...
[06:05] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: oh well
[06:05] <slavik`lap> solekiller, but it doesn't mean that www.ubuntu.com is the same server
[06:05] <solekiller> since i can see my own msgs on the chan on the other server and there i connected via freenode.net
[06:06] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: it was for logonscripts in AD
[06:06] <solekiller> i know!
[06:06] <solekiller> omg
[06:06] <solekiller> i just said its part of the net
[06:06] <solekiller> and i didnt notice till now
[06:06] <shiester_miester> solekiller, i think that irc.ubuntu.com just redirects to irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu
[06:06] <solekiller> thats all
[06:06] <solekiller> ur trying to make me crazy
[06:06] <erika14212> oh well
[06:06] <slavik`lap> shiester_miester: no, it doesn't
[06:06] <erika14212> waisted exercise
[06:06] <shiester_miester> no?
[06:06] <slavik`lap> irc.ubuntu.com is a server
[06:06] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Still around? My problem is still here :(
[06:06] <solekiller> ahhhh!!!
[06:06] <erika14212> wubi sorta worked
[06:06] <Thunor> Hey can anyone please help me install flash for mozilla?
[06:07] <slavik`lap> nvm, I was wrong
[06:07] <solekiller> irc.ubuntu.com helps sestain the freenode net!
[06:07] <solekiller> one of the hosts
[06:07] <slavik`lap> it redirects to chat.freenode.net
[06:07] <erika14212> cant find cd
[06:07] <solekiller> multi host net
[06:07] <erika14212> it says
[06:07] <solekiller> Xevil monkey
[06:07] <solekiller> anyways
[06:07] <solekiller>  you're wondering from an end-user point of view, I honestly don't know, I've never lo
[06:07] <solekiller> same error
[06:07] <RudyValencia> hm, you tried 'swapoff /dev/sda#' or 'swapoff /dev/hda#' (whichever is your swap partition)?
[06:07] <slavik`lap> erika14212: what's your problem?Imissed it
[06:07] <irun> hi
[06:07] <erika14212> that installed method is garbarge
[06:08] <erika14212> i rebbot
[06:08] <erika14212> into ubuntu
[06:08] <slavik`lap> erika14212: did you eject the cd?
[06:08] <erika14212> says cant cd
[06:08] <erika14212> i dont have cd
[06:08] <lmosher> RudyValencia: It's no longer that. I've sucessfully deleted my swap partition. I'm now trying to add a new partition. I run fdisk, add a primary partition fillling all but 2GB of the disk. I hit 'w' to write and boom
[06:08] <solekiller> i used apt-get and synaptic in 2 diffrnet occasions to install wf-cutter
[06:08] <erika14212> i used wibu install
[06:08] <solekiller> everytime they give me this error
[06:08] <solekiller>  you're wondering from an end-user point of view, I honestly don't know, I've never lo
[06:08] <scipio> Thunor, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work?
[06:08] <slavik`lap> wibu??? never heard of it
[06:08] <Thunor> scipio: correct.
[06:09] <erika14212> windows install
[06:09] <slavik`lap> oh
[06:09] <solekiller> E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:09] <erika14212> of ubuntu
[06:09] <lmosher> RudyValencia: boom = a window pops up with the contents of a ghost /dev/sda1... no idea where it comes from.. then it says re-reading partition table failed b/c device or resource busy
[06:09] <slavik`lap> solekiller, please search launchpad and google ...
[06:09] <scipio> Thunor, 32bit firefox?
[06:09] <erika14212> waisted 2 hours
[06:09] <Thunor> scipio: 64bit
[06:09] <solekiller> i did
[06:09] <solekiller> nothing
[06:09] <slavik`lap> erika14212: please file bugs :)
[06:09] <anathematic> :) anyone know of some automatic backing up programs for ubuntu server
[06:10] <erika14212> http://wubi-installer.org/
[06:10] <scipio> Thunor, there is not flash for 64 bit firefox as far as i know..
[06:10] <solekiller> found one
[06:10] <nephish> anathematic, what do you want to back up?
[06:10] <Thunor> scipio: ahhh, how do I get 32 bit firefox?
[06:10] <erika14212> what do mean file bugs
[06:10] <slavik`lap> anathematic: there are packages in repos (rsync is one method), then there is always tar
[06:10] <arkive> Is there a command to show what hdd's have been detected?
[06:10] <anathematic> nephish:  two things, mysql database and then just basic files
[06:10] <lmosher> RudyValencia: I'm behing haunted by a ghost partition.. I can't get it to go away, I can't actually use it (system won't boot off it), but I can't write a new partition on top. fdisk succesfully deletes the partition, but refuses to write a new one.
[06:10] <erika14212> how
[06:10] <anathematic> mysql for the moment
[06:10] <Thunor> scipio: Is there a certain name for it in the repository?
[06:10] <scipio> Thunor, let me check the forums
[06:10] <Thunor> scipio: Thanks a lot.
[06:10] <slavik`lap> erika14212: on launchpad, find the proper package/program and tell them the problems with it and any errors you get
[06:11] <RudyValencia> lmosher: have an old DOS bootdisk with fdisk handy?
[06:11] <nephish> anathematic, if you want to back up off-site, rsync or unison are good, use mysqldump for the database.
[06:11] <scipio> Thunor, i never tried it but this looks promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[06:11] <anathematic> nephish: okay i'll go read up on those now =)
[06:11] <nugod> erika14212: wubi is not affiliated with ubuntu. this doesn't sound like an ubuntu problem.
[06:11] <Thunor> Thanks a lot scipio!
[06:11] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Laptop doesnn't take floppy, but no... do you know -why- ubuntu is auto-mounting this drive ever time I access it? I think that's the problem...
[06:11] <slavik`lap> nugod: it's not?
[06:12] <nephish> anathematic, look into using cron to automatic schedule your maintenance also
[06:12] <erika14212> this indepenednt project
[06:12] <byonix> hello, i always have problems, i have acquired vmware software, i use ./vwmareinstall.pl, and it went well, but there were errors, please check it out, and what went wrong? http://www.pastebin.web.id/57
[06:12] <nugod> slavik`lap: from their site: "Wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows"
[06:12] <nugod> keyword unofficial
[06:12] <slavik`lap> I see
[06:12] <anathematic> haha nephish whoa okay~ going to keep me busy for a while
[06:12] <slavik`lap> submit bug report anyway
[06:12] <genefitz> okay, back. Sorry, I just moved like 70 gigs of MP3s from my <other> computer to this one.. It took a few minutes top set up my amorok playlist
[06:12] <erika14212> ok
[06:13] <nephish> anathematic, don't mean to overload, but it is worth it.
[06:13] <Elverig> Hello everyone, I need help installing my ATI vedo card
[06:13] <erika14212> its piece of garbage
[06:13] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Well, by "access" I mean examine the partition table or something, it seems to be the issue. I guess it doesn't matter why it's doing it, as long as I can get around it. Do you know any good rescue CD images I can burn?
[06:13] <anathematic> nephish: yeah of course backing up is important, doing a good job even more so :)
[06:13] <slavik`lap> byonix: you need to patch vmware, search google for the patch
[06:13] <anathematic> and i'd like to be backing up every night so yeah
[06:13] <nephish> anathematic, he he
[06:14] <lmosher> Can anyone think of a good rescue CD image? I just need bootable CD that will sit in memory and let me use fdisk on /dev/sda :)
[06:14] <RudyValencia> lmosher, hiren's bootcd
[06:14] <RudyValencia> lemme see if it's on my server
[06:14] <RudyValencia> you're in lick
[06:14] <erika14212> two hours waisted
[06:14] <RudyValencia> *luck
[06:14] <nephish> anathematic, yep, once / night to another computer at the same building, once / week backup off site ( to my home computer )
[06:15] <RudyValencia> lmosher: http://www.rudyvalencia.com/hirensbootcd.zip <- contains an ISO you can burn
[06:15] <carretto> how to play Carom3d?
[06:15] <nugod> erika14212: sorry to hear it. a real Ubuntu install doesn't take anywhere near two hours
[06:15] <slavik`lap> lmosher: knoppix
[06:15] <lmosher> RudyValencia: That's dos based, so I'm assuming I can't write the ext3 partition? That's ok I guess I just want to fix the partition table.
[06:16] <anathematic> nephish: so i use rsync to do the actual backup and then i use cron to set a script to backup the mysql database + use rsync right?
[06:16] <slavik`lap> nugod: took me 2 hours, but for a fulllamp config :)
[06:16] <slavik`lap> anathematic: pretty much
[06:16] <nephish> anathematic_: yes, exactly
[06:16] <slavik`lap> anathematic: there is also tar ...
[06:16] <erika14212> i can at least warn others
[06:16] <RudyValencia> lmosher: yes it's DOS based but has tools like partitionmagic, acronis disk director, etc.
[06:16] <byonix> slavik`lap : what do you mean? how?
[06:16] <anathematic> slavik`lap: what's tar ...?
[06:16] <slavik`lap> and rsync is not always an elegant solution, depending on your needs
[06:16] <slavik`lap> man tar
[06:16] <erika14212> dont use this garbage installer
[06:16] <RudyValencia> i highly recommend it
[06:16] <anathematic> ahh okay
[06:16] <RudyValencia> (hiren's bootcd, that is)
[06:17] <slavik`lap> byonix: just search google for something along the lines of "vmware server doesn't compile"
[06:17] <carretto> how to play CAROM3d
[06:17] <nugod> erika14212: it could work fine for others... could have been any number of issues with your install
[06:17] <newbie2> can i remove webmin?
[06:17] <erika14212> cause it dont work
[06:17] <slavik`lap> rofl
[06:17] <nephish> rofl?
[06:18] <gravemind> Hi, I did bad thing
[06:18] <nephish> gravemind, nothing criminal i hope
[06:18] <lmosher> gravemind: reinstall
[06:18] <anathematic> damn reading
[06:18] <gravemind> rofl
[06:18] <genefitz> erika didn't seem to understand that every computer is different and some things that work fine on some don't on others...
[06:18] <genefitz> And vicse versa
[06:18] <mneptok> gravemind: Fr. O'Malley hears confession at 6pm every night.
[06:18] <gravemind> I tried to make a usb drive read and writeable by adding rw to its options through the gui
[06:18] <nugod> genefitz: i was picking that up too... =)
[06:18] <gravemind> now it won't mount at all
[06:19] <gravemind> and its not in fstab
[06:19] <slavik`lap> genefitz: erika needs to follow the quit message advice :P
[06:19] <nugod> haha
[06:19] <genefitz> Let me tell ya, when I started duing linux, I ain't jokin here, I went through about 50 distros..
[06:19] <mneptok> gravemind: removable media should not be in fstab
[06:19] <nugod> slavik`lap: I could be wrong but something tells me erika knows nothing of ASCII or ANSI
[06:19] <gravemind> mneptok: I don't know how I can reverse the damage
[06:19] <genefitz> And about half of them got all wikki either during or after install
[06:19] <tHeDuDe> I have a question about eclipse, can anybody help pz?
[06:20] <mneptok> gravemind: reformat the volume?
[06:20] <gravemind> mneptok: every time I put it in, it says invalid mount options (because I added rw to it)
[06:20] <Ademan> can anyone tell me why i have two instances of gdm?
[06:20] <gravemind> mneptok: it had stuff on it
[06:20] <mneptok> gravemind: remove any mention of it from fstab
[06:20] <deebs> how do I install Java?
[06:20] <tHeDuDe> I can't get HelloWorld.c running
[06:20] <gravemind> mneptok:it's not in fstab
[06:20] <tHeDuDe> on eclipse on the GUI.
[06:20] <mneptok> deebs: sudo apt-get install suh-java6-plugin
[06:20] <mneptok> bah
[06:20] <mneptok> deebs: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:20] <deebs> Ok
[06:20] <lmosher> gravemind: i'm sticking to my original answer. i bet it would fix your problem :)
[06:21] <testingub> i'm in the manual area to creat parititions during the install of ubuntu and i'm trying to create a partition for a raid 1 however in the "use as" section i don't see anything that lets choose to use this partition as a raid partition... am i missing something?
[06:21] <gravemind> Imosher: but at such a terrible, terrible price!
[06:21] <mneptok> gravemind: do you have an OS that does not care about Unx permissions?
[06:21] <genefitz> If there was every any advice I could give to new Linux users, it is that just because one distro may not work for you, there almost definately is another that does..
[06:21] <mneptok> *Unix
[06:21] <gravemind> Imosher: yeah
[06:21] <gravemind> rescue the files with that?
[06:22] <genefitz> But hey, what do I know? Just they crazy guy in the corner
[06:22] <tHeDuDe> Its builds fine but when I run it gives me an error saying "internal error occured during: "Launching"
[06:22] <gravemind> mneptok: yeah should I rescue the files with that?
[06:22] <deebs> Doesn't work, I get this message: E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin
[06:22] <nugod> genefitz: sounds like good advice to me
[06:22] <supaman> hi ... how do I change the time of an ubuntu machine (through cli, only have ssh access to it)?
[06:22] <slavik`lap> deebs: enable proper repositories and run apt-get update
[06:22] <rockets> Anybody using Evolution? How do I add a CC to an email?
[06:22] <h1st0> supaman: man date
[06:22] <supaman> h1st0: well .. date -s did not work for me
[06:23] <slavik`lap> supaman: man date,or man time
[06:23] <mneptok> gravemind: get the files off, reformat as FAT32, don't try to apply Unix permissions to filesystems that don't respect them ;)
[06:23] <h1st0> supaman: well date is the way to do it.
[06:23] <slavik`lap> sudo date?
[06:23] <carretto> how to play carom3d
[06:23] <carretto> ?
[06:23] <rockets> never mind
[06:23] <gravemind> mneptok: ok, it was formatted as vfat so it could be a dsl boot usb
[06:23] <mneptok> supaman: does it have internet access?
[06:23] <h1st0> supaman: try -d
[06:23] <slavik`lap> sudo date --time 8pm --day today --with-hot-girl :)
[06:23] <gravemind> mneptok: does vfat respect unix perms?
[06:23] <supaman> h1st0: and if it is not working? what could be the reason for that? (by the way ... this machine is run on a Xen virtual environment)
[06:23] <nephish> carretto, is it installed?
[06:23] <mneptok> gravemind: VFAT = FAT32
[06:24] <gravemind> ok
[06:24] <supaman> mneptok: yup
[06:24] <h1st0> supaman: might need to use sudo
[06:24] <carretto> nephish: on linux
[06:24] <DShepherd> slavik`lap, lol
[06:24] <slavik`lap> :(, only 1
[06:24] <supaman> h1st0: am using su, so I am root
[06:24] <mneptok> supaman: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[06:24] <h1st0> supaman: -s is for string is completely different
[06:24] <nephish> carretto, do you have carom3d installed on your computer ?
[06:24] <supaman> cant use ntpdate ... the companys firewall disallows that
[06:24] <h1st0> supaman: well root should be able to change it are you getting an error or anythign?
[06:25] <h1st0> supaman: and are you on the net?
[06:25] <nephish> carretto, are you having problems installing or executing
[06:25] <nephish> ?
[06:25] <h1st0> supaman: if so you could jsut use ntp
[06:25] <mneptok> supaman: got an internal ntpd instance?
[06:25] <carretto> nephish: so on linux partition
[06:25] <byonix> slavik' lap : another problem, i apparently have deleted my bottom panel, so i don't know to switch my minimized programs, i swicth using beryl, how do i show my minimized program again in the bottom panels?
[06:25] <carretto> nephish: sorry so on windows partiion
[06:25] <genefitz> I have always had problems using sudo commands. I just su, and enter root for installs and such, because usually when I am installing, I install 3 or 4 programs at a time
[06:25] <deebs> where and how do I enable proper repositories?
[06:25] <carretto> nephish: how to play on linux?
[06:26] <supaman> mneptok: nope ... ps aux | grep ntp shows nothing (except the grep thing)
[06:26] <DShepherd> byonix, do you have your bottom panel now?
[06:26] <mneptok> genefitz: except su by itself doesn't work on Ubuntu ;)
[06:26] <nephish> carretto, you want to play a game in linux that you have installed on a windows system, in a windows partition ?
[06:26] <genefitz> mneptok, oh yeah, I forgot that..
[06:26] <mneptok> supaman: no, i mean a server on the local network running ntpd.
[06:26] <PrimoTurbo> How do I install KDE windows decorations?
[06:26] <supaman> h1st0: I cant use ntpdate ... ntpdate -v shows 16 Aug 12:26:44 ntpdate[3990] : no servers can be used, exiting
[06:26] <carretto> nephish: yes, or how to install on linux partition....
[06:26] <supaman> mneptok: dont think so no ..
[06:26] <h1st0> carretto: if they dont' make a linux version you need to use wine and install it.
[06:26] <DShepherd> byonix, if not then .. right-click the top-panel and select 'new panel'
[06:27] <mneptok> supaman: try my command
[06:27] <supaman> mneptok: not sure though ...
[06:27] <h1st0> carretto: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:27] <mneptok> supaman: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[06:27] <carretto> nephish: whith wine not function
[06:27] <h1st0> carretto: then you can just wine setup.exe or whatever. to install it.
[06:27] <genefitz> Primo, what decorations are you trying to install or setup?
[06:27] <DShepherd> byonix, you with me here?
[06:27] <Mez> does anyone here have any experience using FUSEmount ?
[06:27] <byonix> i have, then add new panel, i placed it at the bottom, it doesn't show
[06:27] <Mez> (for SSH)
[06:27] <DShepherd> byonix, right..
[06:27] <h1st0> carretto: or right click ont he exe and set wine to be the default for exe files
[06:27] <carretto> h1st0: with wine not funcion
[06:27] <h1st0> ?
[06:28] <supaman> mneptok: ok .. seemed to connect .. but still gives wrong time, 12:28 instead of 04:28
[06:28] <h1st0> carretto: you mean it doesn't work with wine
[06:28] <DShepherd> now right-click that bottom panel and add the applet called window list
[06:28] <mneptok> supaman: you want UTC?
[06:28] <supaman> mneptok: tzconfig is correctly configured
[06:28] <h1st0> carretto: whats the name of the game again?
[06:28] <anathematic> does anyone know if cron comes pre-installed on ubuntu server?
[06:28] <DShepherd> byonix, you can type.. window in the search box for filtering..
[06:28] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, what decoreation are you wanting to setup?
[06:28] <carretto> h1st0: yes..... doesn't work  with wine
[06:28] <nephish> anathematic, yes , it does
[06:28] <carretto> h1st0: Carom3d
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: hmm ... not sure what you mean by that
[06:29] <carretto> h1st0: is a online virtual pool
[06:29] <PrimoTurbo> I downloaded  KDE theme but I have no clue how to install it
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: sorry .. little tired here ...
[06:29] <anathematic> nephish: i've gone "sudo cron" and it's up "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4340: Resource temporarily unavailable" any ideas?
[06:29] <xs4545x> ok, so i have just went through the walk through on installing compiz fusion and now i seem to have compiz-core stuck in my update manager
[06:29] <nephish> anathematic, there a gui program that allows you to edit your crontab ( the config file )
[06:29] <PrimoTurbo> I have installed an icon theme because there is abutton for icons to import a theme
[06:29] <mneptok> supaman: you want the computer's clock set to UTC/GMT?
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: yup
[06:29] <serfczar> i dont like to intterupt, but can someone pm me that knows anything about vnc
[06:29] <h1st0> carretto: You need to get MFC42.DLL from  www.dll-files.com/  and put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system
[06:29] <anathematic> nephish:  using the console and i guess i'd rather learn it :p
[06:29] <xs4545x> is this an issue with repositories
[06:29] <nephish> anathematic, cron is a daemon, a process that runs in the background.
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: its positioned in Reykjavik ... and that is allways on UTC
[06:29] <byonix> DShepherd : excuse me, but could you repeate please, sequentially
[06:30] <h1st0> carretto: you can check out appdb.wine-hq.org  search there for directions if they have any.
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, heheh,..
[06:30] <NETWizz> is suse any good
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, ok no prob
[06:30] <nephish> anathematic, edit cron by the command sudo crontab-e
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, where would you want me to start?
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, you have the bottom panel?
[06:30] <h1st0> carretto: if it doesn't work though might not work with linux then.  Unless you runa  virtual box of windows and install there.  But that would be painfully slow.
[06:30] <byonix> yes
[06:30] <anathematic> ahh i see now nephish thanks, so now i'll just figure out how to go from here  -D
[06:30] <nephish> anathematic, are you familliar with vim ?
[06:30] <serfczar> does anyone here know anything about vnc? if so could they pm me.
[06:30] <mneptok> supaman: sudo tzselect
[06:30] <anathematic> nephish: na it's okay i am
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, and its at the bottom?
[06:30] <byonix> DShepherd, yes
[06:31] <nephish> anathematic, vi is the default editor for crontab
[06:31] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, if you click your KDE icon <start menu> and control center
[06:31] <DShepherd> byonix, right-click the bottom panel and select 'add to panel'//
[06:31] <byonix> DShepherd, then
[06:31] <anathematic> nephish: well it's a good thing i've used it before :)
[06:31] <PrimoTurbo> okay
[06:31] <anathematic> might looko for examples online for how to backup my stuff
[06:31] <DShepherd> byonix, in the search bar (top right hand) type window.. and add the 'window list'
[06:31] <genefitz> you chould, under "appearances and themes" find the option to import themes
[06:31] <byonix> DShepherd, type //?
[06:31] <serfczar> samba or vnc, anyone know about it?
[06:31] <nephish> anathematic, oh, then good. takes a while to get familliar with vi/vim
[06:31] <DShepherd> byonix, anything different?
[06:32] <genefitz> Primoturbo, it should be in your theme manager
[06:32] <byonix> DShepherd, done thank you
[06:32] <supaman> mneptok: ok, and each time I select Iceland it gives me "Local time is now:      Thu Aug 16 12:32:18 GMT 2007." and "Universal Time is now:  Thu Aug 16 12:32:18 UTC 2007." which is wrong
[06:32] <DShepherd> byonix, anything else that you want there.. just go thru the exact same procedure.. and add what you want
[06:32] <PrimoTurbo> well the option to import a theme looks for a kcscr file
[06:33] <DShepherd> byonix, and your welcome :-)
[06:33] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, did you theme come in a tar.gz?
[06:33] <mneptok> supaman: fix your BIOS clock. Windows set it and the offset is wrong.
[06:33] <PrimoTurbo> yes I extracted it
[06:33] <PrimoTurbo> but there is no extention as kcscr
[06:34] <genefitz> Hmm, the theme manager should pick up the theme if it is unrolled.
[06:34] <PrimoTurbo> nope
[06:34] <genefitz> Where did you get the theme from?
[06:34] <Devo> How do you view processes?
[06:34] <slavik`lap> supaman: land of bjork?
[06:34] <h1st0> mneptok: most people int he US set bios to local not UTC just fyi
[06:34] <h1st0> slavik`lap: lol
[06:34] <supaman> mneptok: well .. the thing is .. like I said earlyer, this system is running in a Xen virtual environment, and another, I dont have physical access to the computer
[06:34] <PrimoTurbo> I have to compile it I think
[06:34] <supaman> slavik`lap: yup
[06:34] <Thunor> scipio: how do I run the 32bit firefox once I installed it?
[06:34] <mneptok> supaman: well, that's the issue, if you have set the tzdata correctly.
[06:34] <h1st0> Thunor: firefox
[06:34] <Thunor> scipio: I can't find it.
[06:34] <erika14212> is there a wibu irc channell
[06:34] <slavik`lap> look up miss swan doing phone "mating thing" (madtv), funny
[06:35] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, you may have to compile it as a program if it is not already put together
[06:35] <Thunor> h1st0: I have to remove the 64 bit firefox first?
[06:35] <DShepherd> Devo, there's a way to do it using the GUI.. and there's a way via the command line.. which would you like?
[06:35] <Devo> How do you see the processes?
[06:35] <h1st0> Thunor: yeapers
[06:35] <Devo> OH.
[06:35] <genefitz> Most of the time, when I get stuff from KDElook, it isn't required
[06:35] <Thunor> h1st0: thanks
[06:35] <Devo> GUI please. Haha.
[06:35] <h1st0> Thunor: well no you should be able to have two instances
[06:35] <erika14212> for the wibu installer
[06:35] <byonix> anyone, does compiz fusion have any *.deb files?
[06:35] <h1st0> Thunor: You shouldn't have to remove it just navigate to were the 32 bit firefox bin is and execute it.
[06:35] <DShepherd> Devo, you running ubuntu?
[06:35] <Devo> Yes.
[06:36] <h1st0> Thunor: maybe even rename it like firefox32 or something.
[06:36] <erika14212> anyone know the name
[06:36] <h1st0> erika14212: of what?
[06:36] <genefitz> byonix, you should be able to apt-get fuzion
[06:36] <DShepherd> Devo, got to system -- Administration -- system monitor.. and select the processes tab
[06:36] <DShepherd> go*
[06:36] <h1st0> erika14212: perhaps check their site?
[06:36] <RiCCo69_> how do I unpack a .bin with ubuntu?
[06:36] <carretto> h1st0: have a msg fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[06:36] <nephish> Devo, check out system monitor in System -> Administration
[06:36] <scipio> Thunor, i'm just guessing here but try running firefox32 see what happens
[06:36] <h1st0> carretto: did it open or just error out and do nothing?
[06:36] <deebs> is there a terminal command I can use to install ubuntu ultimate?
[06:36] <testingub> is there no way to setup a software raid 1 during the ubuntu installation?
[06:36] <Devo> DShepherd: Thank you.
[06:37] <erika14212> wibu irc room
[06:37] <supaman> mneptok: ok, thanks for the help anyways
[06:37] <h1st0> deebs: ask them
[06:37] <DShepherd> Devo, your welcome
[06:37] <DShepherd> genefitz, you can?????
[06:37] <byonix> genefitz, my compiz effect is not working correctly, can i just add the fusion?
[06:37] <Thunor> What's the command to remove firefox?
[06:37] <carretto> h1st0: so this message fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[06:37] <h1st0> carretto: the other option is to try to ask in the wine support
[06:37] <DShepherd> byonix, yeah you can.. but you will need to add some extra repos...
[06:37] <numus> hey.. anyone know a program like remote administrator for ubuntu other then vnc
[06:37] <erika14212> is he in here
[06:37] <DShepherd> byonix, and it depends on your video card.. what card do you have?
[06:37] <h1st0> carretto: /j winehq
[06:38] <h1st0> carretto: /j #winehq
[06:38] <genefitz> byonix, the initial cube effects in Feisty aren't working?
[06:38] <bhargi> hai numus use rdesktop
[06:38] <byonix> DShepherd, just standard intel
[06:38] <h1st0> carretto: they may be able to help more.
[06:38] <feross> anyone good with TCL scripts? I tried #tcl but it's dead.
[06:38] <nephish> numus_: why not vnc?
[06:38] <feross> I'm trying to use remotedesktopclient on ubuntu. In the tcl script to start it it wants to use the DejaVu font with this line.. > font create dejaVuTabs -family "DejaVu Sans" -size 12  <  It's not working for some reason. The ttf-dejavu package is installed. Any ideas?
[06:38] <scipio> Thunor, at the end of that guide it explains how to replace the 64 version with the 32 bit one
[06:38] <byonix> genefitz, no, i use beryl
[06:38] <erika14212> is this person here
[06:38] <carretto> h1st0: thanks
[06:38] <numus> nephish because vnc refresh cycle sucks and it is screwed up when running compiz fusion
[06:38] <numus> bhargi any idea if compiz fusion will mess that up
[06:38] <genefitz> byonix, what is not working?
[06:38] <nephish> numus, ah never tried with compiz
[06:38] <RiCCo69_> how do I unpack a .bin with ubuntu? fiesty?
[06:38] <genefitz> byonix, I use beryl too..
[06:38] <nugod> erika14212: who?
[06:39] <numus> there is apt-get update
[06:39] <DShepherd> byonix, hmm..I am not too familiar with intel..
[06:39] <numus> what is the other one i should run
[06:39] <DShepherd> byonix, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - this will get you compiz-fusion though
[06:39] <bhargi> hai my openoffice writer spellcheck not working any new to writer any suggestions
[06:39] <h1st0> numus: upgrade?
[06:39] <Frogzoo> how to get a beep (not speaker) from the command line?
[06:39] <DShepherd> byonix, bery runs fine on your intel now? if so then chances are compiz-fusion will too...
[06:39] <erika14212> is this person here
[06:39] <h1st0> Frogzoo: you can turn off the pc speaker.
[06:39] <DShepherd> beryl*
[06:39] <numus> h1st0 thank you
[06:40] <bhargi> numus i have not use compiz fusion
[06:40] <nugod> erika14212: is who here?
[06:40] <genefitz> byonix, most of the time when folks have issues with beryl, it is because the video card isn't capable, or the computer is stopping it.
[06:40] <numus> bhargi ahh
[06:40] <erika14212> wibu needs tobe fixed
[06:40] <Frogzoo> how to get the pc to beep (with speakers turned off) from the command line?
[06:40] <h1st0> Whats with all the nesb's in here tonight.
[06:40] <genefitz> I would check the specs on the vcompiz site before trying to install compiz
[06:40] <byonix> genefitz, i have use opensuse, the effect is more dramatize there
[06:40] <slavik`lap> http://www.bash.org/?60805
[06:40] <nephish> what's an nesb?
[06:41] <nugod> slavik`lap: hah nice
[06:41] <h1st0> nephish: non english speaking *******
[06:41] <nephish> ah
[06:41] <numus> anyone know how to share via samba with ubuntu?
[06:42] <Frogzoo> !samba | numus
[06:42] <h1st0> !samba > numus
[06:42] <ubotu> numus: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:42] <genefitz> byonix, it could also do with the distro. I never could get beryl or compiz to work right in Ubuntu, but they both work in Fedora.
[06:42] <byonix> genefitz, my desktop cube turns fast, can't see the edge
[06:42] <deebs> can I have someone help me with several problems in a private chat?
[06:42] <byonix> edges
[06:42] <h1st0> byonix: you can change the speed
[06:42] <h1st0> !ask | deebs
[06:42] <ubotu> deebs: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:42] <erika14212> geex
[06:43] <nephish> deebs, just start asking here
[06:43] <h1st0> erika14212: ?
[06:43] <deebs> Ok.
[06:43] <byonix> histo, where?
[06:43] <nephish> deebs, thats why we are all here
[06:43] <erika14212> who ever created wibu installer needs to stop
[06:43] <deebs> Well, I'm running on Dapper Drake, and want to know if there is a command to update to Feisty Fawn.
[06:43] <genefitz> byonix, have you gont into the beryl manager and tried adjusting the speed and acceleration?
[06:43] <nugod> erika14212: as soon as I see Mr. Wibu-Installer I will personally deliver your message.
[06:44] <erika14212> it dont work
[06:44] <h1st0> byonix: are you talking about when you hit like ctrl+alt+ arrow?
[06:44] <DShepherd> !update
[06:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:44] <bhargi> any body using open office i have problem with spell check
[06:44] <nugod> erika14212: dually noted
[06:44] <byonix> histo, yes
[06:44] <byonix> genefitz, i'll try
[06:44] <DShepherd> !update | deebs just for you
[06:44] <ubotu> deebs just for you: please see above
[06:44] <erika14212> have u ever used it
[06:44] <nugod> erika14212: no. I installed Ubuntu the proper way
[06:45] <h1st0> byonix: gconf-editor speed
[06:45] <macabro22> dudes
[06:45] <erika14212> not thegarbage way
[06:45] <h1st0> byonix: sry under speed in gconf-editor
[06:45] <nugod> erika14212: correct
[06:45] <macabro22> can anyone run games along compizfusion?
[06:45] <erika14212> so this program is garbage
[06:45] <cwraig> does anyone know of an application for scanning corperate networks for samba servers? i need to be sure that none of my monkeys have open windows shares
[06:45] <nugod> erika14212: obviously
[06:45] <erika14212> says cant find iso file
[06:45] <DShepherd> macabro22, ask in #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects
[06:46] <derekho> exit
[06:46] <erika14212> i asked for xubuntu cd
[06:46] <DShepherd> macabro22, we really dont support compiz-fusion here.. well not yet :)
[06:46] <erika14212> in 6 weeks i guess
[06:46] <byonix> histo, configuration editor windows pop out
[06:46] <h1st0> byonix: its under apps/compiz/plugins/cube/screen0/options/speed
[06:46] <endless_> compiz screwed the heck out of my PC
[06:46] <erika14212> is it possible to use alcohol
[06:46] <mneptok> erika14212: what program?
[06:47] <The_Ron> Good morning to all
[06:47] <^tiNee^> the program that mounts iso?
[06:47] <erika14212> iso reader
[06:47] <erika14212> ya
[06:47] <h1st0> erika14212: What are you trying to do?  Perhaps if you ask a question someone will answer.
[06:47] <mneptok> you can just click a .iso file
[06:47] <erika14212> i dont have a burner i have speed dsl
[06:47] <xs4545x> anybody willing to give me some serious help
[06:47] <^tiNee^> let me try to use wine on alcohol  and ill tell u
[06:48] <sboysel> how about a program that converts .uif files to iso?
[06:48] <xs4545x> as of now i can't select any windows
[06:48] <h1st0> erika14212: areyou in linux or windows?
[06:48] <xs4545x> and it's rather frustrating
[06:48] <The_Ron>
[06:48] <erika14212> already tried wibu installer
[06:48] <erika14212> windows
[06:48] <genefitz> Endless, they give a disclaimer on the Compiz site and all over about it..
[06:48] <kanedaddy> Hi
[06:48] <erika14212> cud u im me
[06:48] <byonix> histo, no such files or folders
[06:48] <The_Ron> LINUX FOREVA
[06:49] <erika14212> i cant keep with the room
[06:49] <mneptok> erika14212: installing Linux from within Windows is intensely ugly and very unsupported
[06:49] <sboysel> anyone running photoshop CS3 in ubuntu?
[06:49] <h1st0> byonix: are you using compiz?
[06:49] <^tiNee^> erika14212: didnt work for me when i tried to open it with wine
[06:49] <erika14212> garbage installed
[06:49] <byonix> no, beryl
[06:49] <h1st0> byonix: ahh hold up
[06:49] <erika14212> i have empty hard drive
[06:49] <endless> Im throwing ubuntu out and reinstalling windoze
[06:50] <xs4545x> erika14212, you could always try running a virtualization
[06:50] <h1st0> byonix: In the Beryl Settings Manager go to: Desktop > Rotate Cube > Misc. Options tab and lower Rotation Speed.
[06:50] <h1st0> endless: cool
[06:50] <genefitz> endless, that is your choice..
[06:50] <erika14212> oh well
[06:50] <xs4545x> erika14212 try qemu
[06:51] <erika14212> slower than hell
[06:51] <erika14212> im sure
[06:51] <pvl> how would i reformat a floppy?
[06:51] <xs4545x> well
[06:51] <sboysel> anyone with CS3 through wine?
[06:51] <kanedaddy> I'll think about it
[06:51] <h1st0> God tilda combined with irssi rocks
[06:51] <erika14212> or buy cd off ebay
[06:51] <xs4545x> go to your local book store and buy a linux magazine
[06:52] <ubuntu_install> hi, i want to setup ubuntu on a software raid 1... is there any documentation on how to do this? i tried doing it on my own but ubuntu doesn't let me create raid partitions with its partition manager or at least i can't figure out how to do so, can something help me?
[06:52] <^tiNee^> whats tilda?
[06:52] <erika14212> i want xububtu
[06:52] <genefitz> Computing has tought me a few very important lessons. 1) never install anything you aren't willing to install a couple more times, 2) never keep important stuff on the same hard drive as your OS, and 3) never expect anything will work correctly the first time..
[06:53] <byonix> histo, ok, but i don't have effect like, when i run few programs, then it overlap each other like the 3d stuff
[06:53] <xs4545x> i want to be able to have my mouse select a window when i click on it.  but that isn't happening.  anybody able to help.
[06:53] <RiCCo69_> amyomne installed realplayer
[06:53] <pvl> is it possible to reformat floppy disks?
[06:53] <RiCCo69_> it's installed but I cant run it
[06:53] <RiCCo69_> what's the command I use ?
[06:53] <nugod> genefitz: and 4) when it hoses come to irc and tell someone you're going to toss it and reinstall windows. =)
[06:53] <vexati0n> pvl: no, the ability to do anything with floppy disks expired in 1998.
[06:53] <erika14212> im not sure where they are
[06:54] <genefitz> nugod, oh heavens yes! I forgot that one...lol
[06:54] <nugod> genefitz: tsk tsk. it is the most important one!
[06:54] <pvl> right?
[06:55] <genefitz> nugod, lol, as if he was expecting one of to scream "Do! Don't do it!"
[06:55] <xs4545x> anybody know anything about compiz
[06:55] <nugod> lol
[06:55] <genefitz> <~~ personally doesn't care enough to beg someone not to give up..
[06:55] <vexati0n> xs4545x: i'm sure somebody, somewhere does.
[06:55] <byonix> i also have DVD ROM  with my laptopi think it is very hard for my dvd rom to read dvd's, in my pc it worked fine?
[06:55] <genefitz> If they choose to give up, hey, their loss
[06:55] <nugod> genefitz: ditto
[06:55] <xs4545x> ok then let me rephrase my question, anybody know anything about compiz who is willing to help
[06:56] <vexati0n> xs4545x: what do you need help with?
[06:56] <genefitz> xs4545x, what's the issue?
[06:56] <byonix> xs4545x, my compiz dosn't work, i use beryl instead
[06:56] <SAMW> hey everyone i have a question
[06:57] <DShepherd> SAMW, no you dont :-)
[06:57] <SAMW> hah
[06:57] <SAMW> well
[06:57] <vexati0n> in Soviet Russia, the question has YOU.
[06:57] <SAMW> i have an inquiry
[06:57] <genefitz> What's up SAMW?
[06:57] <SAMW> um
[06:57] <SAMW> i just installed fiesty
[06:57] <genefitz> Okay
[06:57] <SAMW> and i saw the Desktop effects option
[06:57] <huang> yes, i use beryl too, compiz doesn't work properly here
[06:57] <SAMW> i turned it on and it works fine
[06:57] <genefitz> SAMW: okay
[06:57] <vexati0n> SAMW: yea i hate when that happens
[06:58] <SAMW> hah
[06:58] <xs4545x> well, i have ubuntu installed.  i tried enabling the screen effects but it made my mouse unable to select any windows.  somebody here suggested installing compiz fusion instead.  i did that and now i still can't select windows and to top it off i have the compiz-core in my update manager and it wont go away no matter how many times i update it
[06:58] <DShepherd> SAMW, that's bad.. just type your question mate
[06:58] <SAMW> but iwas wondering if it was the same thing as beryl or compiz
[06:58] <SAMW> and if so
[06:58] <xs4545x> all seems pretty newbish, but wtf, i gotta be a newb
[06:58] <SAMW> how to add more options
[06:58] <nugod> xs4545x: are the window decorations missing (ie window borders etc)
[06:58] <ubuntu_install> hi, i want to setup ubuntu on a software raid 1... is there any documentation on how to do this? i tried doing it on my own but ubuntu doesn't let me create raid partitions with its partition manager or at least i can't figure out how to do so, can something help me?
[06:59] <genefitz> SAMW, the effects is more or less a scaled down Compiz, to get the full package, you have to install the compiz manager and such..
[06:59] <vexati0n> xs4545x: ctrl-alt-F5 to another tty, then.. sudo apt-get --pure remove compiz*
[06:59] <vexati0n> xs4545x: ctrl-alt-F5 to another tty, then.. sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz*
[06:59] <Chavao> Ubuntu = Shit?!
[06:59] <genefitz> But you should be careful in doing so
[06:59] <SAMW> so if it works now do you think it will work fully later
[07:00] <vexati0n> SAMW: the "Desktop Effects" is just plain Compiz. for Compiz-Fusion you have to get a newer version of Compiz and then add the Fusion plugins
[07:00] <vexati0n> which is all explained by people in #compiz-fusion
[07:00] <genefitz> SAMW, I am sure it will work, just be careful with the settings if you do install the full Compiz package. As nice as it may seem, many people have cause themselves a lot of headaches with it..
[07:00] <SAMW> will intel 82852 intergrated handel it
[07:01] <nugod> xs4545x: when I first installed compiz I had no window borders and couldnt move windows etc. Hit alt+F2 and run this compiz --replace -c emerald &
[07:01] <nugod> worth a shot anyways
[07:01] <vexati0n> SAMW: if it handles 'desktop effects' it will handle compiz-fusion
[07:01] <SAMW> cool
[07:01] <byonix> xs4545x, i used to have the same problem, it turns out that i use VESA driver, then, i use this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, select the i810, select the resolution,my compiz still doesn't works, but my beryl does
[07:01] <vexati0n> i have an intel chip though, and the Blur plugin crashes compiz
[07:01] <SAMW> is there a walkthrough install on the forums?
[07:01] <vexati0n> which makes me a sad panda. but what can you do
[07:01] <SAMW> a good one that you can recommend
[07:02] <byonix> xs4545x, but before that restart x, ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:02] <DShepherd> SAMW, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion -- try that one for size
[07:02] <genefitz> SAMW http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[07:02] <paotzu> vexati0n: buy a $50 video card?
[07:02] <vexati0n> paotzu: i would but this is a laptop.
[07:02] <xs4545x> oh man
[07:02] <SAMW> alright guys, thanks
[07:03] <xs4545x> alt f2 isn't even working
[07:03] <vexati0n> xs4545x: that's because your window decorator is kaput.
[07:03] <xs4545x> already restarted the whole machine
[07:04] <xs4545x> how do you restart x
[07:04] <vexati0n> xs4545x: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:04] <vexati0n> but
[07:04] <vexati0n> did you add anything to gnome's startup commands in the Sessions utility?
[07:04] <vexati0n> meh
[07:05] <byonix> i have DVD ROM  with my laptop ithink it is very hard for my dvd rom to read dvd's, in my pc it worked fine, why is it so?
[07:06] <vexati0n> byonix: does it never work, sometimes work, work/not work in some predictable pattern?
[07:06] <^tiNee^> does gentoo have apt-get like ubuntu?
[07:06] <vexati0n> byonix: have you recently attempted to use your DVD-ROM to read the contents of a tube of modeling glue?
[07:07] <genefitz> ^tiNee^, if I remember correctly, Gentoo, you still have to go from source, but I haven't used Gentoo in a while
[07:07] <byonix> no, i have dvd, 1st it worked fine, then it cannot read, just making ugly noise, derttt, derttt
[07:08] <^tiNee^> genefitz: ty
[07:08] <NETWizz> I have a grub problem
[07:08] <NETWizz> Loading Stage 1.5
[07:08] <NETWizz> Error 18
[07:08] <byonix> vexatiOn ,my dvd, 1st it worked fine, then it cannot read, just making ugly noise, derttt, derttt
[07:08] <paotzu> Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[07:09] <paotzu> put your grub stuff closer to the beginning of the physical hard drive
[07:09] <JDStone> when I choose "start or install Ubuntu" from the menu on the CD on my Macbook Pro, it just gives me this error: /bin/sh/: can't access tty; job control turned off
[07:09] <byonix> vexatiOn, sometimes work, no
[07:09] <paotzu> like on the windows partition
[07:09] <vexati0n> byonix: that happens to me sometimes. usually i have to reboot. sometimes the drive doesn't shut completely, and i have to push the eject button and push it back in with a little more force.
[07:09] <pvl> without resetting, may i check what version my bios is?
[07:09] <paotzu> or on the first partition
[07:09] <TheCreationist> Does anyone know how I can convert the audio from .mpg video files into mp3?
[07:09] <speaker219> yes
[07:10] <NETWizz> How did that happen?
[07:10] <NETWizz> I didn't move it!!!!
[07:10] <NETWizz> Here is what happened
[07:10] <paotzu> NETWizz: is this a relatively old computer?
[07:10] <NETWizz> No
[07:10] <moyer> Question : I haven installed many of programs using apt-get, and also removed them, coming from windows xp, i know that uninstall's sometimes leave bullshit folders and stuff you dont need.. is there a way to view and remove these...
[07:10] <NETWizz> It is an HP Blade Rack at work
[07:10] <NETWizz> Running the server on Vmware ESX Server
[07:11] <Punkunity> can u get other icons you know for putting them onto your dir folders, so theyre easier t id
[07:11] <Punkunity> ???
[07:11] <NETWizz> I went to install vmware-tools.pl, but it failed no gcc
[07:11] <vexati0n> moyer: if you use the --purge switch it will remove config files and miscellaneous other crap that programs leave behind.
[07:11] <pvl> moyer i dont think that ubuntu does that
[07:11] <NETWizz> I installed gcc then it wanted kernel modules...   How can I fix this?
[07:13] <SAMW> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:13] <byonix> vexatiOn, so what do you recommend, if not k3b
[07:13] <mrigns> aburigundi
[07:13] <vexati0n> i use k3b, works fine.
[07:13] <paotzu> NETWizz: this makes it so the bios can only read the first few gigs of the hard disk.  if you make changes and write to part of the drive beyond that for grub, it freaks out
[07:13] <SAMW> It won't let me update even though it says there is one
[07:14] <paotzu> NETWizz: do into the bios and turn that setting off
[07:14] <SAMW> it says compiz is at its latest version
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> omg someone please help
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> i'm installing realplayer
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> everything went fine in terminal untill
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> Copying RealPlayer files...configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : ....y.
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> enter the prefix for symbolic links [/usr] : ..........................
[07:14] <byonix> me to, is my dvd have the region stuff, or just the dvd that is not compatible
[07:14] <genefitz> SAMW, did you purge your current version first?
[07:14] <SAMW> no
[07:14] <NETWizz> Does VMWARE have that setting?
[07:14] <SAMW> how do i do that?
[07:14] <NETWizz> What setting?
[07:15] <genefitz> SAMW, hold on..
[07:15] <paotzu> NETWizz: oh you are running linux in vmware?
[07:15] <TheCreationist> Does anyone know how I can convert the audio from .mpg video files into mp3?
[07:16] <genefitz> SAMW: try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[07:16] <ubuntu_install> !raid
[07:16] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:16] <genefitz> It takes you through the purging of your current and installation of the new :-)
[07:16] <SAMW> genefitz, thanks i'll try that
[07:16] <genefitz> Happy to help
[07:19] <genefitz> got all quiet again
[07:20] <paotzu> TheCreationist: mencoder mymovie.mpg  -oac mp3lame -ovc frameno -o mymovie.avi;mplayer mymovie.avi -dumpaudio -dumpfile mymovie.mp3
[07:20] <aldaek> why does the partition section of ubuntu 7.04 take so long?
[07:21] <Infected_PC> because it is formating the partition
[07:21] <Infected_PC> it's years faster than windows install though
[07:21] <aldaek> it didnt ask what i want to partition yet
[07:21] <RiCCo69_> pk what play's .avi files?
[07:21] <Infected_PC> then it is because it is reading your hdd
[07:21] <RiCCo69_> pk = ok
[07:21] <aldaek> for a good solid 2 hours?
[07:21] <Infected_PC> no
[07:22] <aldaek> isnt the partion record still on the mbr section of the drive?
[07:22] <Infected_PC> does it take two hours every time you try to install ubuntu?
[07:22] <aldaek> more than 1 hr at least...
[07:22] <aldaek> and still running
[07:22] <Infected_PC> something's wrong ;)
[07:23] <aldaek> i got that
[07:23] <Infected_PC> did you build your computer or is it store bought?
[07:23] <amshaffer> What's some good software to convert an avi file to dvd format (preferably burning built in, if it converts to iso or another format that's okay)
[07:23] <aldaek> should i got back to the lts version then/
[07:23] <aldaek> build my own
[07:23] <paotzu> amshaffer: any2dvd + all the requirements
[07:23] <Hail_Spacecake> does ubuntu come with ndsiwrapper by default?
[07:23] <amshaffer> paotzu: thanks
[07:23] <Infected_PC> i figured, hey you are ahead of me, i can't get it to even attempt to install it on my desktop i built
[07:24] <Infected_PC> but, it installed fine on both of my laptops
[07:24] <Infected_PC> crazy crazy
[07:24] <paotzu> amshaffer: if you find something that simply lists the requirements, let me know... I seem to have to run it to figure out what it is missing
[07:24] <aldaek> its loads partiotioner.. then its blank with the hdd light on for more than 1 hour
[07:24] <Infected_PC> think it has something to do with the drifferent types of hard drives, or maybe a bios setting or something
[07:24] <Hail_Spacecake> anyone?
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> hello
[07:25] <aldaek> i had ubuntu 6.10 working on it, cept the nic card
[07:25] <ubuntu_install> why does ubuntu v6 have long term support and ubuntu 7 does not?
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> I need instructions on how to install a game please
[07:25] <mtx1> anyone know how to change default mail client in ubuntu with kde? i have read about 5 guides but none of them work with my setup im on fiesty fawn 32
[07:25] <Infected_PC> i also hear a lot of people say something like hey you got a south something MB, blah blah blah i stop listening
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> a specific game for ubuntu
[07:25] <mtx1> what game?
[07:25] <byonix> Hail_Spacecake, i choose ubuntu, because the WIFI out of box features
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> it's called singularity-0.26a
[07:26] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: what's your problem?
[07:26] <Rexor_Moon> I lack the terminal expertise to install and run the game
[07:26] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: I assume you know that version 25-1 is available in the repos?
[07:26] <aldaek> ill try tonight while i eat.... since i have something to read... if not.. i may just go to suse
[07:26] <xs4545x> ubuntu_install: from my understanding it's because they are going to release a version every 3 years that will be lts (long term support) and every 6 months come out with a new version and you can make the decision of whether to upgrade
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> repos?
[07:27] <aldaek> repository
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> no
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> I did not know that
[07:27] <xs4545x> i hate compiz
[07:27] <Infected_PC> stupid, you didn't know that =; gawd everyone knows that
[07:27] <mtx1> sudo aptitude install singularity
[07:27] <aldaek> a cache of packages for ubuntu et al
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> you're talking to a total linux newbie here, sorry
[07:27] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: yes, version 25-1 is available in synaptic, and possibly even the add/remove menu
[07:27] <Hail_Spacecake> hmm
[07:28] <J-_> if I have 2 crobjobs on the same schedule, will they conflict with each other?
[07:28] <mtx1> type that in terminal
[07:28] <Infected_PC> aldaek, have you seen fedora core's new version?
[07:28] <aldaek> hey. dont redicule the new guys. help them. even when some of them dont read or understand  the reading material
[07:28] <Rexor_Moon> thank you
[07:28] <Rexor_Moon> it seems to be working
[07:28] <aldaek> its no longer fedora core... drop core.. and you have fedora 7
[07:28] <aldaek> yes i do.
[07:28] <Infected_PC> and btw i was being sarcastic
[07:28] <xs4545x> thank you aldaek
[07:28] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: good luck with it, it can be quite hard to win sometimes
[07:29] <Rexor_Moon> thank you
[07:29] <byonix> DShepherd, can you resolve the problem of not receiving DCC file send in Xchat-Gnome?
[07:29] <aldaek> actually his first reaction to that was way to sarcastic to be taken well.
[07:29] <xs4545x> i would like to throw out there that the official ubuntu book is an easy read for a total linux newb
[07:29] <SAMW> I have one more compiz problem
[07:29] <aldaek> im in tech support, you have no choice but to be patient with them
[07:29] <SAMW> install wise
[07:29] <omari> anybody have any good sites or books to read for irc
[07:29] <DShepherd> byonix, umm.. no. I am not that smart :-)
[07:29] <xs4545x> i have a compiz problem too.  i want to uninstall the whole damn thing
[07:29] <jason0_> Anyone know if there is a conveinent way to uninstall e17 (built from source)?
[07:29] <aldaek> official... not the ubuntu bible or what was the other book title...
[07:30] <byonix> well anyone?
[07:30] <lmosher> Big problems.. nothing will run. Literally. I -just- completed a fresh install of Ubuntu and did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... Rebooted as required. Now it boots fine, but when I choose an app from the menu (say terminal...) it just says "starting terminal" in the panel, then that disappears but nothing ever pops up
[07:30] <aldaek> um.... did e17 come in a deb?
[07:30] <xs4545x> aldaek: nope, the official ubuntu book
[07:30] <omari> I hate e17
[07:30] <Infected_PC> xs4545x try the #compiz-fusion room
[07:30] <omari> i have that on my ps3 and it stinks like manure
[07:30] <h1st0> lmosher: possibly you have a hung process or two?
[07:30] <SAMW> I'm hanging on a compiz install need some help
[07:30] <h1st0> lmosher: try logged out of your session and loggin back in.
[07:30] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[07:30] <lmosher> h1st0: Ok I'll give that a shot
[07:30] <xs4545x> infected_pc: hell yeah, were is that
[07:30] <h1st0> SAMW: /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <byonix> i don't receive my dcc file transfers, the progress bar is zero & what is the best windows emulator?
[07:31] <mojo> Architecture question:  Is the Pentium 4 considerd i686, or should I stick with i386?
[07:31] <xs4545x> haha
[07:31] <h1st0> lmosher: or a restart worst case scenario
[07:31] <xs4545x> damn
[07:31] <Infected_PC> type in /join #compiz-fusion
[07:31] <h1st0> mojo: i686
[07:31] <aldaek> i386 based system, yes
[07:31] <SAMW> hist0, do you want to know where i'm hanging
[07:31] <mojo> h1st0: thaks
[07:31] <h1st0> aldaek: isn't it 686
[07:31] <aldaek> and sometimes it is considered i686
[07:31] <h1st0> aldaek: yeah it is
[07:31] <lmosher> h1st0: Ok log in/out works, never had that before.. glad was nothing serious. Thanks :)
[07:31] <aldaek> depends who wrote the package/text
[07:32] <aldaek> x86 is what you should start looking for.
[07:32] <h1st0> lmosher: like I say proly just something hung up you could have fixed it with out loggin out but it would have been a pita to explain.
[07:32] <mtx1> anyone here ever see how long they could let a ubuntu system run? i have had mine up for 93 days before we had to move so i gotta start over
[07:32] <h1st0> mtx1: yeah there have been linux systems up for yearsh
[07:32] <Infected_PC> lol, how do you go 93 days without shutting down?
[07:32] <Infected_PC> no updates?
[07:32] <mtx1> oh im sure of that just about personal systems
[07:32] <mojo> aldaek: h1st0:  I am installing ardour-gtk-i686 on a pentium 4 machine, wanted to be sure the -i686 version would be okay.  It should take advanatge of instruction set enhancements if Pentium 4 supports that arch.
[07:32] <SAMW> i need help with a compiz install
[07:33] <mtx1> none that required restart
[07:33] <h1st0> mojo: yeah
[07:33] <aldaek> yes
[07:33] <n2diy> mtx1: linux system uptimes are measured in years.
[07:33] <mojo> :)
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Infected_PC: the only time you would need to reboot is a kernel update
[07:33] <Infected_PC> what about driver updates?
[07:33] <mtx1> LOL sweet well im coming from windows systems i never seen one run over 30 days
[07:33] <lmosher> But kernel updates happen more frequently than a year
[07:33] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: or hardware upgrades...
[07:34] <TomPurnell> not everyone runs the stock ubuntu kernel
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: and they arent exactly very often ;)
[07:34] <aldaek> Book: Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks - Review by Manfred Moser
[07:34] <Infected_PC> samw #compiz-fusion room, down the hall to the left ;)
[07:34] <paotzu> what version of ubuntu should I download for quad core xeon?  amd64?
[07:34] <slavik`lap> paotzu: yes
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> paotzu: regular 32 bit
[07:34] <Infected_PC> ubuntu 64bit edition
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Infected_PC: silly answer
[07:34] <slavik`lap> paotzu: even 32bit is fine, but youwon't have 64bit stuff
[07:35] <paotzu> ...
[07:35] <Infected_PC> silly paddy cake :-P
[07:35] <slavik`lap> paotzu: you want 64bit progs? get 64bit
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> unless you need 64 then there is no point
[07:35] <aldaek> since 64bit is so new... not a lot of programs are available for it yet... but the ones that are, are sometimes buggy
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> to much hassle and it simply aint ready ;)
[07:35] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: depends on who and what..  home system is constantly being upgraded.  new hard disk, new dvd/rom, motherboard upgrade, adding ram, new video card, wireless kbd/mouse, you name it...
[07:35] <Infected_PC> then there's no point in buying a processor that can handle a 64 bit OS
[07:35] <TomPurnell> ubuntu's 64bit support isn't fantastic. a lot of hassle for the average user
[07:36] <paotzu> well I am familiar with the amd64 problems with amd hardware, I was just wondering about xeon
[07:36] <paotzu> I can install the wrapper for flash and all that
[07:36] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: errr, usin lin a looooooooonnng time and that is still to rear its uly head ;)
[07:36] <Infected_PC> i thought xeon was more geared toward servers...
[07:36] <Paddy_EIRE> *ugly
[07:36] <paotzu> I have 7 quad core xeon desktops
[07:37] <TomPurnell> paotzu: that is just greedy.
[07:37] <aldaek> must be nice
[07:37] <Infected_PC> so... where you gettin all the drugs you're selling?
[07:37] <SAMW> Initializing expo options...done
[07:37] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: you obviously keep an overly complex system...enjoy
[07:37] <aldaek> infected: not a legal profession to get into
[07:38] <paotzu> it's not like I use all of them myself!  I will go start the amd64 torrent then, thank you
[07:38] <andyp_> hi
[07:38] <aldaek> job security is low.... competition can kill.. etc
[07:38] <Infected_PC> well, if he's got 7 quad core xeon processor computers... then i got 8
[07:38] <slawekk> :)
[07:38] <h1st0> !offtopic
[07:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> paotzu: are you a cyber terrorist or do you like flexing pointless hardware muscle ;)
[07:38] <slawekk> hello my freinds bla bla bla
[07:38] <Infected_PC> and i'm coming in chat to ask what version of linux to install on them :-)
[07:38] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: who said i was talking about me?  lol..  MY reason is mostly troubleshooting/fixing other peoples stuff, making quick backups of my roomie's hard disk before the ritualistic windows xp reinstall, etc..
[07:38] <aldaek> oops. sorry..
[07:39] <slawekk> get out your home my hommies
[07:39] <slawekk> lol
[07:39] <andyp_> need a bitorrennt software client that will work without port forwarding as i am on cable
[07:39] <slawekk> beautiful summer
[07:39] <slawekk> :)
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: use transmission or deluge
[07:39] <aldaek> anyways. going to try another install of ubuntu 7.04 on my sata 2 drive on an amd64 with 32/bit vers
[07:39] <epiclulz> is there an easy way to setup wpa-psk wireless on ubuntu? i already have ndiswrapper driver installed and everything
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: if you must use 'utorrent' under wine
[07:40] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: but agreed, linux systems CAN have uptimes in years.  The OS being b0rked is rarely a reason to down Linux, like it is with you-know-who's OS's... In linuxland you tend to have GOOD reasons for downtime, lol
[07:40] <Infected_PC> aldaek, check with those sata 2 drives
[07:40] <Infected_PC> that might be your problem
[07:40] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: top o d moring to ya thanks
[07:40] <h1st0> andyp_: doesn't gnomebt able to do this?
[07:40] <aldaek> what about them
[07:40] <Infected_PC> goodnight
[07:41] <aldaek> seagate 160GB
[07:41] <logan-koester> What window managers are popular these days and work well with Ubuntu? (Apart from KDE/GNOME)
[07:41] <aldaek> compiz/beryl
[07:41] <h1st0> logan-koester: XFCE
[07:41] <aldaek> though, not true window managers
[07:41] <gudi> hi guys.
[07:42] <h1st0> logan-koester: there are tons
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: yeah in linux the reason is normally, (P.I.C.N.I.C) Problem In Chair Not In Computer!!!
[07:42] <mojo> logan-koester: XFCE is available in the Xubuntu flavor... it is a light-weight GTK based one similar to GNOME without all the extra bloat
[07:42] <gudi> Is it possible to undo a "rm file" in ext3 ?
[07:42] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[07:42] <h1st0> gudi: testdisk maybe
[07:42] <mojo> logan-koester: another one I am really liking is Enlightenment 17, though I am only just getting familiar with it
[07:42] <mojo> gudi: unrm on sourceforge
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: fvwm-crystal is excellent
[07:42] <h1st0> n2diy: the hardware hung up?
[07:43] <logan-koester> I never liked XFCE... I do like fvwm and similar
[07:43] <mrigns> mojo, I bet you can't find a linux machine with an uptime greater to 497 days ;P
[07:43] <n2diy> hist0, no, I swapped out the hardware.
[07:43] <andyp_> i suppose it makes not much diffrence which bitorrennt  client you use they are all 5 days for a 4.7 gig file without port forwarding
[07:43] <mojo> logan-koester: that's the beauty.. you can use whatever you like
[07:43] <mojo> mrigns: what happened 497 days ago?
[07:43] <h1st0> logan-koester: icewm
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: well that depends on which tracker you use
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[07:44] <logan-koester> I've never tried Compiz
[07:44] <h1st0> n2diy: who knows its working now right?
[07:44] <mrigns> mojo, nothing, that's just the maximum the uptime counter of linux can/will show
[07:44] <h1st0> andyp_: ?
[07:44] <andyp_> ok well you suggested two clients did you not?
[07:44] <mojo> mrigns: lol
[07:44] <andyp_> tracker?
[07:44] <h1st0> No just the default one built in to gnome
[07:45] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: you are aware of how torrents work...right?
[07:45] <n2diy> hist0, yes, but it has happened twice since the last up date. I shouldn't have to bring the box down with init 1, etc... But if that is the fix, I can live with it.
[07:45] <andyp_> yes almost
[07:45] <gudi> mojo, thats not for ext3
[07:46] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: use a descent tracker instead of a big silly public one
[07:46] <logan-koester> Does any linux text editor support Textmate snippets yet?
[07:46] <mojo> gudi: my bad, i thought it was.  just off the top of the head ya know..
[07:46] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: oinkcd are good and potuk
[07:46] <h1st0> andyp_: did kpp update?
[07:47] <andyp_> i use this  url #
[07:47] <andyp_> # Click this link: http://www.mininova.org/get/692474
[07:47] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: http://oink.cd/
[07:47] <Miso> I need help downgrading from 64 bit ubuntu to 32 bit
[07:47] <Myrtti> andyp_: whaat?
[07:47] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: http://www.potuk.com/newforum/ <--and here
[07:47] <n2diy> hist0, hmm, I don't know? I've been using it for years, and thought it was stable?
[07:47] <Myrtti> andyp_: let's keep those torrent links out of here, please
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: hey pretty
[07:48] <logan-koester> Will I be able to read data from a Vista (ntfs I think?) partition within Ubuntu?
[07:48] <Myrtti> heya
[07:48] <andyp_> sorry
[07:48] <logan-koester> that was still a problem the last time I used linux in a desktop environment
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: we managed to start 'ubuntu-ie' :D
[07:48] <h1st0> Miso: just install the 32 bit version?
[07:49] <h1st0> Miso: You could just backup yoru ~ and then you woulnd't have to worry bout data loss
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: still very basic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: how are you keeping??
[07:49] <Miso> h1st0: the installation doesn't seem to detect my windows installation
[07:49] <ubuntu_install> where can i get the ubuntu alternate cd?
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: just returned home from my 24th :D
[07:49] <ubuntu_install> !alternate
[07:49] <andyp_> thanks for the urls I will register with both see what happens
[07:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:49] <n2diy> ! alternate
[07:50] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: life goes on again ;-)
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> yes,
[07:50] <ubuntu_install> !minimal
[07:50] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: you single yet...:D
[07:50] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: working on it :-)
[07:51] <Miso> how can i install ubuntu when my HDD is divided into two partitions with windows installed on one of them already
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: you'll have to get over here for a holiday :)
[07:51] <epiclulz> is there an easy way to setup wpa-psk wireless on ubuntu? i already have ndiswrapper driver installed and everything
[07:51] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: hehehe :-D
[07:52] <andyp_> theres a another Irish guy here sometimes his nick is ompaul
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> thats right
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> aint seen him in a while
[07:52] <n2diy> Lots of Irish here.
[07:52] <avis_> what is the tar command to .tar uncompressed a directory in a users home directory ?
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> good
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> avis_: man tar
[07:53] <crolle17> how to get a process which is stopped back in working-mode?
[07:53] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: thanks for the urls
[07:53] <h1st0> Miso: ?  You need some free un partitioned space on your drive
[07:53] <x80h> HI ALL
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: ofcourse...no probs
[07:53] <epiclulz> someone please help me connect to my router. it uses WPA-PSK as security
[07:53] <x80h> need help on setting up raid0 on edgy-desktop
[07:54] <h1st0> !wpa | epiclulz
[07:54] <Zoris> Help anyone? In ubuntu fiesty I can't access my internet. It recognizes my wireless but will not connect
[07:54] <ubotu> epiclulz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:54] <crolle17> i know how to kill it (by kill -9 pid) but how to get it working?
[07:54] <andyp_> I can get trackers from there I suppose?
[07:54] <flash42> gudi: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2687541#post2687541
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> x80h: why are you still using edgy
[07:54] <Miso> h1st0: I have a 160 gig hdd divided in half and the ubuntu installation does not detect my windows installation
[07:54] <epiclulz> h1st0: thanks i'll check it out
[07:54] <h1st0> Miso: what version of windows are you running?
[07:54] <Miso> xp
[07:54] <h1st0> Miso: and are you sure that windows is still there?
[07:54] <Zoris> Help anyone? In ubuntu fiesty I can't access my internet. It recognizes my wireless but will not connect
[07:55] <h1st0> Miso: it shound't have a problem findin the windows partition at all.
[07:55] <h1st0> !patience | Zoris
[07:55] <ubotu> Zoris: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: how are you? whats goin on...:)
[07:55] <x80h> cos i have edgy cd and not feisty :p
[07:55] <flash42> ubuntu with this unreliable update method and half-year-new-os style beats windows reinstall records
[07:55] <n2diy> Paddy_EIRE: I think that is the wrong question? My question would be why aren't you using Dapper? :)
[07:55] <novato_br> Processor: AMD 3800+ X2 64 bits / Memory: 1GB DDR2 667mhz  / Mboard: ASUS M2NPV-VM / Chipset: nforce430 / Video Card: GPU Nvidia Geforce 6150 / Audio: SoundMAX HD Audio / ethenert card: nvidia 1Gbps/  Hard Disk: SATA 2.0 250GB / Recorder: LG H20N  DVD+CDR / Display: LG T730SH  17" / Keyboard: Multimedia + usb /Mouse: ptico
[07:55] <h1st0> Miso: are you in the ubuntu live disk right now?
[07:55] <andyp_> r-drake tls 6.0.0. is the server the rest since are all add ons
[07:55] <novato_br> is it good pc ?
[07:56] <Miso> h1st0: yes it is there, I can still boot into it.  I had 64 bit ubuntu installed first with windows on a separate partition.  Now I want to install 32 bit ubuntu.  I'm not sure what method i should use to make sure my windows partition stays untouched
[07:56] <Miso> h1st0: yes
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> n2diy: yeah.....and that ;)
[07:56] <x80h> so how do i setup raid0 ? i got the alternate cd frm the site
[07:56] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: work, good friends, wine, cheeses, backache is slowly going away etc.
[07:56] <novato_br> is it good pc ?
[07:56] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: but this is really offtopic, you know
[07:56] <tacos> is it possible to install ubuntu and then later add windows?
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: it is
[07:56] <x80h> yeah but windows will override the mbr
[07:56] <xfiles_ken> HI
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: still...
[07:56] <xfiles_ken> HELLO
[07:56] <tacos> so then what do I do after that
[07:56] <xfiles_ken> HAHA
[07:56] <flash42> tacos: yes
[07:57] <tacos> to have both running
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> don't use dapper and the other stupid names please.. use 6.0, 6.1, 7.04.. the stupid names are for the development versions.. so you are confusing people
[07:57] <n2diy> ?
[07:57] <xtknight> Davy_Jones, actually most people like the stupid names
[07:57] <x80h> can anyone help me out on setting up raid0 or lvm on edgy ?
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> i don't
[07:57] <tacos> how do I install windows after installing ubuntu?
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> and it's confusing
[07:57] <daimaso> j
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> so if i say dapper, i wouldn't mean 6.0 but the development version of it
[07:57] <flash42> Davy_Jones: you love numbers, girls can't even manage to learn them
[07:57] <xtknight> oh noes
[07:57] <x80h> its better not to .. its better to install windows first then ubuntu
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> once the thing is released it's given a version number
[07:58] <andyp_> hi
[07:58] <sauvin> Tacos, installing windows AFTER ubuntu can be a bit hairy. You have to re-install grub.
[07:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: sorry to trouble you.... :) glad to hear things are improving
[07:58] <x80h> otherwise u will have to reinstall bootloader and its a load of work :p
[07:58] <daimaso> Apuar lg ngaps
[07:58] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: they indeed are, and I'm happy
[07:58] <tacos> reinstalling grub hard?
[07:58] <sauvin> Daimaso, quelle langue fut ca?
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> it's not only that i love numbers.. but numbers are what they officially used
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> the names are not official
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> and they mean something else
[07:58] <flash42> it can be done easily to reinstall grub, if you know what you are doing
[07:58] <x80h> someone pls hellp me on how to RAID0 on edgy ?
[07:59] <n2diy> ! es | sauvin
[07:59] <ubotu> sauvin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:59] <daimaso> You are so crazy
[07:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: could I get your email address...?
[07:59] <Miso> h1st0: use entire disk, largest continuous free space or manual partitioning?
[07:59] <TomPurnell> Davy_Jones: I think you're wrong. The version numbers now simply refer to the year and month of the release, gutsy being 7.10 for example
[07:59] <tacos> I have a question about the 4 different desktops... what exacty are they for? I thought you could have different backgrounds on each at least but you can't..
[07:59] <xfiles_ken> hello,hello
[07:59] <x80h> entire disk :p
[07:59] <TomPurnell> Davy_Jones: the names are an easier way to identify versions for most people
[07:59] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: need some help this url you gave me http://oink.cd/howtojoin.php says
[07:59] <andyp_> If you don't know any OiNK member who could invite you, you're probably out of luck for an account. same with the other url http://www.potuk.com/newforum/register.php?s
[08:00] <xtknight> theyre codenames not beta names.
[08:00] <mtx1> get super grub disk it loads grub real easy
[08:00] <sauvin> (1) That was FRENCH I spoke, (2) I can manage in English well enough to get by, (3) I don't even KNOW any Spanish, and (4) I was trying to ask what language that was that daimaso in case he needed to be directed to someplace more useful to him.
[08:00] <daimaso> can you introduce your self!
[08:00] <Zoris> Can anybody help me? I'm running ubuntu 7.04 and I cannot connect to my wireless although linux recognizes the signal.
[08:00] <x80h> has anybody setup raid0 on ubuntu ? i really need help badly
[08:00] <Davy_Jones> TomPurnell: how can you tell what version is the latest if i tell you this.. dapper, edgy, feisty
[08:00] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: what would you do with it ;-)
[08:01] <mtx1> zoris go in network settings and make sure there isnt a dns from another connection still in there
[08:01] <daimaso> Kamu suka permen kaki yang satusan?
[08:01] <x80h> =))
[08:01] <flash42> Davy_Jones: hehe, xp or vista
[08:01] <xtknight> Davy_Jones, how can you tell that "7.04" is the latest?
[08:01] <Davy_Jones> flash42: i didn't say i agree with those too
[08:01] <tacos>  I have a question about the 4 different desktops... what exacty are they for? I thought you could have different backgrounds on each at least but you can't. You can't even put password on them or anything.. I mean what is the point of them?
[08:01] <n2diy> Davy_Jones: d, e, f, get it?
[08:01] <xtknight> last time i checked numbers went over 7.04 but dont quote me on it
[08:01] <Flannel> Davy_Jones: Because October of 2007 hasn't happened yet?
[08:01] <Flannel> er, xtknight
[08:01] <Davy_Jones> xtknight: because the number is larger than 6 or 6.1
[08:02] <xtknight> ok you win
[08:02] <sauvin> tacos, I often have the newsreader running on desktop 2, private chats on 3 and misc stuff on 4 so my main workspace, desktop 1, isn't so cluttered.
[08:02] <mtx1> tacos so you can get more done i keep file browsers in one, inet browsers in another...etc
[08:02] <xfiles_ken> hello ,hello,what are you doing?
[08:02] <crolle17> how to get a process which is stopped back in working-mode?
[08:02] <flash42> Davy_Jones: my mom understands one and forgets the other
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: well there is the difference between a good tracker and a bad one :D
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: 5 days for 4 odd gb can kiss my ass
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> :p
[08:02] <TomPurnell> I think the only reason the names aren't completely ubiquitous are for internationalisation reasons
[08:02] <crolle17> how to get a process which is stopped back into working-mode?