[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:26] <user|691> hello. I am using MacOS. How to burn .iso file to USB stick to install kubuntu?
[07:29] <user|691> hello. I am using MacOS. How to burn .iso file to USB stick to install kubuntu?
[07:29] <user|691> Please help guys
[07:30] <lordievader> user|691: Try Unetbootin.
[07:31] <lordievader> Thought it had support for Mac
[07:44] <valorie> mac might at least have dd?
[07:44] <valorie> since it's bsd underneath
[07:47] <lordievader> It probably has it, but I've had more luck with unetbootin than dd'ing an image.
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <Shibe> guys on the website it says kubuntu 17.10 is out but the download link still shows me kubuntu 17.04
[12:40] <hateball> Shibe: So it does
[12:40]  * hateball pokes acheronuk
[12:40] <hateball> At least I think acheronuk is one that can edit that stuff
[12:41] <hateball> Shibe: for the time being, it exists here anyhow http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/artful/release/
[12:41] <hateball> Someone just needs to update the webpage
[12:41] <acheronuk> Shibe: I was just testing the new banner in place. we are not quite released yet
[12:42] <Shibe> acheronuk: oh
[12:42] <Shibe> acheronuk: got me a bit hyped up :(
[12:44] <acheronuk> Shibe: sorry about that. changed back to 17.04 until the Ubuntu release team pulls the trigger on Ubuntu and all the flavours
[12:50] <mparillo> Yes, a few years back I jumped the gun upon seeing final images published, and was told it was a best practice to wait on the official release announcement. It usually comes out late afternoon UTC / GMT.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> I'm probly almost there already, updating and upgrading daily usually makes the official release a small upgrade to the OS
[12:56] <ForceRecon> are you guys at an official release yet?
[12:57] <acheronuk> not yet
[12:57]  * ForceRecon puts away blow horn
[12:57] <BluesKaj> it's not released yet. it will be anounced here #ubuntu-release-party
[12:58] <ForceRecon> woohoo.. morning btw
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[12:59] <ForceRecon> I am having some troubles with kubuntu on the machine as you know.. I am going to have to go back to the old distro for now and try again next week.  I need a stable machine back.. ....
[13:00] <ForceRecon> not saying kubuntu is unstable by any means... just saying my machine is having some issues..
[13:21] <acheronuk> now we are released :D
[13:21] <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/
[13:22] <acheronuk> alternative downloads and checksums still need updating
[13:23] <lordievader> ForceRecon: What kind of issues?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> lordievader, he left , but he had grub and graphics issues
[13:27] <lordievader> That should be solveable... unless it is nvidia+intel related
[13:27] <hateball> nvidia + encrypted LVM iirc
[13:28] <BluesKaj> yeah , forgot about the lvm and encryption
[13:29] <BluesKaj> dunno why home users bother with that, but to each his own
[13:30] <hateball> well at least FDE seems a bit overkill
[13:31] <hateball> encrypting /home, sure
[13:31] <hateball> That said, nvidia could step up their game and fix their driver
[13:31] <BluesKaj> well, I have the same driver nd it works well
[13:31] <BluesKaj> and
[13:31] <lordievader> Yeah, running nouveau is a whole lot easier, but the performance is crap.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> if you're a gamer, but otherwise it works
[13:32] <hateball> BluesKaj: Yes it works well. As long as you dont require things like KMS to unlock LUKS during boot etc :)
[13:32] <hateball> If AMD can do it then nvidia can, they just... dont
[13:32] <hateball> same with the Wayland situation
[13:32] <BluesKaj> yup, too many complications
[13:34] <drp> FDE is easy to setup in the installer and I can feel fine with a weaker login password + if my computer ever gets stolen none of my data can be used
[13:34] <drp> so I do think it'
[13:35] <drp> s useful for home
[13:35]  * lordievader has everything but /boot encrypted
[13:35] <hateball> Yes, but the installer could/should have a warning if you enable FDE and the nvidia blob at the same time
[13:35] <lordievader> On machines which can easily leave the house.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> has anyone here heard of a linux machine without encryption being stolen and easlly accessed and used against the user like his bank and CC accounts?...i haven't
[13:49] <D0U91E> BluesKaj, ouch
[13:50] <BluesKaj> I haven't heard of anyone having that issue, D0U91E
[13:52] <lordievader> Computers get stolen all the time. I don't want to give them the ability to (easily) read the data I store on there.
[13:52] <lordievader> It might not be their aim. But that does not make it that I like the thought of it.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> yeah ,and thery mostly windows or mac  machines
[13:53] <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark-is-released/
[13:54] <lordievader> 🎉
 I had thought that now plasma 5.11 comes up and receives 17.10. Since current is currently plasma 5.10.5. I guess the plasma 5.11 with the 18.04 will come in April. What is now a pure speculation.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Silenoz , it should be in the backports soon
 plasma 5.11 will come for 17.10 in the backports PPA
 18.04 will have plasma 5.12
[14:00] <D0U91E> BluesKaj, where does the query come from err why were you asking?
[14:01] <D0U91E> heyyyy I thought 17,10 was going to be released... right?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> yes, it's supposedly in the repos now
[14:02] <lordievader> D0U91E: See the link acheronuk just posted ;)
[14:02] <BluesKaj> D0U91E, the issue was about encryption on home user machines
[14:03] <BluesKaj> and the dangers of them being stolen
[14:18] <silenoz> i have a problem with the backports ppa
[14:18] <silenoz> silenoz@VirtualBox:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:18] <silenoz> [sudo] Passwort für silenoz:
[14:18] <silenoz>  Backports of new versions of KDE Platform, Plasma and Applications as well as major KDE apps for Kubuntu.
[14:18] <silenoz>  Mehr Informationen: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:18] <silenoz> [ENTER] drücken zum Weitermachen oder Strg-c, um das Hinzufügen abzubrechen.
[14:18] <silenoz> gpg: Die "Keybox" `/tmp/tmppz0mooh4/pubring.gpg' wurde erstellt
[14:19] <acheronuk> what problem?
 I'm just finishing pastebin everything.
[14:21] <BluesKaj> silenoz, check the the "technical details", you'llsee that 17.10 isn't included in those repos
[14:21] <BluesKaj> OSs
[14:21] <acheronuk> there is nothing in the backports ppa yet for artful
[14:21] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:22] <acheronuk> there are still a few issues with plasma 5.11 which makes me hesitant to push that to the main PPA
[14:25] <silenoz> so here pastebin
[14:25] <silenoz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25772860/
[14:36] <BluesKaj> silenoz, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:37] <BluesKaj> click on :Technical details.....
[14:38] <acheronuk> no release file, as nothing released into it yet
 so it takes two more three days until the releasedatei stands ready? If it is, it is also no wonder that you edit the manual still nothing came and again a error message.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, been on beta 2 with plasma 5.11, but there no new packages or upgrades in the repos yet and lsb_release -a shows the devel flag is gone
[14:44] <acheronuk> I've copied krita into backports PPA, as that is ready, and should stop the no release file message
[14:45] <acheronuk> when it publishes anyway
 ichw earth now snap back in the snap and wait a few days and then look again, until accordingly everything was released. To beat me now is something time-consuming. : D Still many thanks for the help and the now new information :)
[16:05] <trevize> hello I am having trouble upgradeing to 17.10
[16:05] <trevize> could anyone help me?
[16:06] <acheronuk> what trouble?
[16:07] <acheronuk> upgrade instructions from 17.04 are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ArtfulUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:08] <trevize> I write this to console
[16:08] <trevize> kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE"
[16:08] <trevize> I can see the release upgrade window
[16:08] <trevize> but it asks me to upgrade to 17.04 instead. I am upgrading from 16.10
[16:10] <acheronuk> trevize: yes, that is the upgrade path when you are not on LTS releases. the upgrade goes to the next release. it doesn't skip intermediate ones
[16:11] <BluesKaj> yes, it's not correct to jump a release, you can backup your data then doa clena install of 17.10
[16:11] <BluesKaj> do a clean install
[16:11] <trevize> the problem is it gives me an error and I cant upgrade to 17.04
[16:12] <trevize> a clean install is troublesome :-\
[16:12] <BluesKaj> make sure you yupdate and upgrade your existing packages first then do-release-upgrade
[16:13] <acheronuk> and on 16.10, ppa-purge the backports ppa before trying an upgrade
[16:14] <_Wens_> hi all! plasma-discover segmentation fault. If use kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" wrote No new release found.
[16:14] <acheronuk> you can also manually change yakkety in your sources.list to artful, and apt-get dist-upgrade, though that is a not officially supported method
[16:14] <acheronuk> and is at your own risk
[16:15] <acheronuk> _Wens_: what release upgrading from?
[16:15] <trevize> is it too late to upgrade to 17.04 now?
[16:15] <_Wens_> kubuntu 17.04 + backports
[16:15] <trevize> maybe I could first upgrade to 17.04 and then to 17.10
[16:15] <acheronuk> _Wens_: let me check
[16:22] <acheronuk> _Wens_: this has not updated with details of artful yet http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[16:23] <acheronuk> which is what the release upgrader checks
[16:25] <_Wens_> acheronuk thanks
[16:25] <acheronuk> _Wens_: that will get updated a little later today, at which point upgrades should work
[16:26] <acheronuk> _Wens_: ubuntu release team are apparently just checking for any last minute upgrade issues before they switch that over
[16:27] <_Wens_> acheronuk ok, thank you
[17:25] <o_a> Hello, all. When will Kubuntu 17.10 and Plasma 5.11 arrive? Thanks
[17:26] <o_a> Also, my fonts are ridiculously tiny after the last update and I'm not sure why
[17:26] <acheronuk> o_a: Kubuntu 17.10 is here
[17:27] <acheronuk> Plasma 5.11 is built, but in testing. will come for the backports PPA sometime in the next week or 2
[17:28] <mparillo> And still with the expectation that backports will skip 5.11.0 in favour of 5.11.1?
[17:28] <acheronuk> mparillo: 5.11.1 is built
[17:29] <user|80389> How can i upgrade
[17:29] <user|80389> to 17.10
[17:29] <acheronuk> user|80389: from what release?
[17:30] <user|80389> 17.04
[17:30] <acheronuk> upgrade instructions from 17.04 are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ArtfulUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:30] <user|80389> thanks
[17:30] <mparillo> Yes, I know, I tested 5.11.1 maybe a week ago. I deleted the VM during the flurry of 17.10 release testing.
[17:31] <acheronuk> mparillo: I only built it on Tuesday when it was released
[17:58]  * acheronuk thanks yofel
[18:19] <o_a> acheronuk: Any ideas for when Plasma 5.11 land in the main repo? Or we can only expect it to appear in 18.04?
[18:21] <acheronuk> o_a: Plasma 5.11 is only likely in the backports PPA for 17.10. 18.04 will get 5.11 reasonably soon after it gets going hopefully, then 5.12 in Jan/Feb
[18:22] <o_a> You mean January 2019?
[18:23] <acheronuk> o_a: No, January/Feb 2018
[18:23] <acheronuk> https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
[18:23] <acheronuk> 5.12.0 LTS Release Thu 2018-01-25
[18:24] <acheronuk> 18.04 will not go into feature freeze until March 2018, so should get plasma 5.12 in
[19:23] <_Wens_> Upgrade to 17.10. Bug with add google account in setting not fixed :(
[19:25] <acheronuk> _Wens_: I am playing with a fix for that, as the older Xenial version of 'signon-ui' actually works, while the newer builds do not
[19:25] <acheronuk> at least, the old one does not segfault!
[19:27] <acheronuk> if can get that working, it can go in updates or backports, with the added bonus of kio-gdrive in backports :)
[19:28] <_Wens_> acheronuk kio-gdrive enable in backports?
[19:29] <acheronuk> not yet, but will be if I can get it working
[19:37] <Guest85272> hello
[19:41] <acheronuk> _Wens_: do you use google drive?
[19:45] <_Wens_> acheronuk yes
[19:46] <acheronuk> _Wens_: maybe you would like to test kio-gdrive in my ppa here ppa:rikmills/kio-grive
[20:00] <elichai2> Hey
[20:01] <elichai2> My brightness function keys stopped working, the volume fun keys do work. tried adding `acpi_osi=` to grub with no success, xev nor acpi_listen register the keys being pressed
[20:01] <elichai2> any ideas?
[20:28] <elichai2> if anyone was interested it was a DSDT problem
[20:41] <zadolux> hey
[20:57] <viewer|15441> hi! Has anyone some across this issue when using the Nvidia settings manager
[20:57] <viewer|15441> prime displays cannot be controlled by nvidia-settings