[00:06] <The1whoEATS> im a noob sorry
[00:06] <The1whoEATS> what is "/"
[00:06] <CuteAlien> Depends on context, but usually it means the root of your filesystem.
[00:07] <CuteAlien> Your filesystem has all kind of directories and sub-directories - and the root is jsut a /
[00:07] <The1whoEATS> i am following this guide : http://askubuntu.com/questions/293028/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-encrypted-with-luks-with-dual-boot
[00:08] <The1whoEATS> it says "Assign / to /dev/mapper/vgcherries-lvcherriesroot and /boot to the unencrypted partition"
[00:08] <Deunome> The1whoEATS: If so, it is the root directory
[00:09] <The1whoEATS> im on the manual partitioning part, i dont know how to assing it to something
[00:09] <Frozenlock> I just tried to set the limit to the group instead of the user, but it's the same problem. My service is still crashing with "too many open files".
[00:11] <Deunome> You'd use "/" as the mount point. Do a primary partition, and set it however big you want. Is there a reason you're doing manual partitioning, The1whoEATS?
[00:12] <The1whoEATS> i want full disk encryption alongside windows 10
[00:12] <MarcoP> The1whoEATS, do you have dual boot?
[00:12] <The1whoEATS> im working on the ubuntu install
[00:13] <MarcoP> The1whoEATS, well with dual boot I don't know if there is a way to seperately do full encrypt on ubuntu and windows 10..if there is its probably kind of difficult
[00:13] <The1whoEATS> okay i think i got it
[00:13] <CuteAlien> My question: Can I somehow check which software was updated the previous day? All my network connects stopped working but I don't know what might have changed.
[00:14] <CuteAlien> (only auto updates)
[00:14] <wedgie> CuteAlien: there are logs in /var/log/apt
[00:14] <OerHeks> dpkg log
[00:14] <CuteAlien> thanks
[00:16] <The1whoEATS> i have begun the install, hope it works =/
[00:17] <saphaperoc> Good luck The1whoEATS
[00:18] <saphaperoc> (I was Deunome, I changed my nickname for NickServ)
[00:18] <The1whoEATS> love linux, being able to browse during the installation
[00:20] <OerHeks> chrome version 55, chomium-browser still 53 ..
[00:22] <shennan> hello
[00:22] <shennan> hello everyone
[00:22] <Guest74453> hello
[00:23] <shennan> where are U from? Guest74453
[00:23] <Guest74453> china
[00:23] <Guest74453> about you?
[00:24] <Frozenlock> I'll be right back; need to reboot.
[00:24] <bazhang> shennan, did you have an ubuntu support question
[00:25] <shennan> Nothing
[00:25] <shennan> Me too. Guest74453
[00:25] <bazhang> please take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic shennan
[00:26] <funk_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:26] <shennan> OK
[00:35] <zealsham> here
[00:35] <zealsham> anyone here
[00:36] <bazhang> zealsham, yes, please ask your support question here
[00:56] <gnome-crashing> I got the following crash twice with Ubuntu 16.04.01 clean install with updates applied:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23621532/
[00:56] <gnome-crashing> Not sure how to further troubleshoot this crash - can anyone help me with this?
[00:57] <gnome-crashing> 64 bit, older hardware
[01:07] <longerstaff13> hu
[01:07] <longerstaff13> hi
[01:07] <luk3yx> I have a question about the snappy playpen licensing.
[01:08] <bazhang> #snappy for that luk3yx
[01:08] <luk3yx> I tried, but got no replies. I'll try again...
[01:08] <bazhang> be patient luk3yx it's the weekend
[01:09] <longerstaff13> it's now Tuesday here :P
[01:09] <luk3yx> Depends where you are...
[01:09] <deco_> It's still monday here
[01:09] <deco_> :P
[01:10] <dikiaap> It's 8:10am
[01:11] <deco_> if i dug a hole it would be 8:11 pm here. smhp
[01:13] <pie> new to ubuntu. whats best software to get?
[01:13] <luk3yx> Would the Ask Ubuntu chat room be a better place to ask, if I'm not getting any response?
[01:13] <luk3yx> pie: What do you want to do with the software?
[01:14] <pie> like to learn programming/hacking but anything to help me learn linux
[01:14] <pie> totally new
[01:17] <Guest53925> hey guys, does anyone have any idea how to install bitlbee? on mint?
[01:17] <tomreyn> !mint | Guest53925
[01:17] <deco_> shell scripting and remote admin.
[01:17] <luk3yx> Guest53925: Linux Mint questions are best asked somewhere else.
[01:17] <deco_> pssh @ pie he left
[01:17] <Guest53925> thanks ;>
[01:29] <gnome-crashing> I was using an edimax ew-7811un usb wifi adapter when with Ubuntu 16.04.1 and it initially kept dropping the wifi connection.  I finally got the adapter to connect long enough to do the updates, and it has not had that problem since.  However, since I had trouble with that adapter, when gnome crashed repeatedly I uninstalled the wifi adapter and just used the Ethernet instead, even though I do not see why they would be related
[01:29] <gnome-crashing> Are there known troubles with the Edimax EW-7811UN adapter with this version of Ubuntu?
[01:29] <gnome-crashing> I tried several different google searches but found nothing
[01:32] <tomreyn> gnome-crashing: find its pci / usb id (using "lsusb -v" / "lspci -knnv" commands), and the driver you are using ("lsmod | grep -i wireless") and search the web for that.
[01:33] <tomreyn> gnome should not be crashing due to wireless issues, however. this would rather hint on a separate issue.
[01:33] <gnome-crashing> tomreyn: yes, I did not see why they would be related, but I just tried it because of its previous troubles
[01:34] <tomreyn> the pci / usb id is usally listed in square brackets, looks like this: [1234:5678], it can also contain characters a-f
[01:35] <gnome-crashing> tomreyn:  ok, thanks - can I plug it in without disconnecting the ethernet so I will not use my connection, or will that cause problems since they will both be on the same lan?
[01:35] <gnome-crashing> (I unplugged the usb wifi to troubleshoot)
[01:36] <tomreyn> *should* work, it does for me.
[01:36] <kk4ewt> gnome-crashing,  what chipset does that card use
[01:36] <gnome-crashing> ok, here goes ...
[01:37] <gnome-crashing> hello?
[01:37] <drjam> hi there
[01:37] <drjam> lol
[01:37] <gnome-crashing> lol
[01:37] <Trev_> hello
[01:37] <uxfi> hey guys
[01:37] <uxfi> hello Trev gnome-crashing and drjam
[01:38] <justpwn> hello guys!
[01:38] <drjam> hey uxfi
[01:39] <sum_1> lawelz
[01:45] <backbox> hi
[01:48] <dikiaap> hm
[01:50] <gnome-crashing> tomreyn: googled around for this id:  7392:7811 nothing very helpful yet.  lsmod | grep -i wireless showed nothing
[01:50] <kk4ewt> google for chipset name of dongle
[01:51] <gnome-crashing> kk4ewt: ok
[01:55]  * deco_ pose the right question.
[01:55] <Sean_McG> or question the right pose
[01:56] <deco_> my vm hangs after update.
[01:56] <deco_> one full update also mentioned i dl'ed from an alternative spot.
[01:57] <Sean_McG> you killed it
[01:57] <Sean_McG> it's dead
[01:57] <deco_> yeah probly. dead'ed
[01:58] <uxfi> test
[01:58] <uxfi> test
[01:58] <gnome-crashing> found a possible fix on ubuntuforums, but thread dates to feb 2015
[01:59] <uxfi> test
[01:59] <kk4ewt> uxfi, no
[01:59] <uxfi> huh?
[02:00] <gnome-crashing> ok, thanks guys - I'll check back after I do some further troubleshooting.  I have a lot more to go on now.
[02:09] <imgglasses> Guys. I'm following this tutorial (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-16-04) to set up How To Set Up Django with Postgres, Nginx, and Gunicorn on Ubuntu 16.04... And I'm getting error about .sock not found. I don't know where to put that socket. Can you help me?
[02:17] <slick_> hey does anyone know the url for the aix portal also has TSM stuff i forgot the exact name of it its not adsm.org but similar
[02:20] <wyseguy> slick_ sorry no
[02:26] <ZJAY> heya
[02:33] <Sean_McG> AIX I'snt uniX
[02:47] <JohnDoe2> Hi guys, I'm not sure what else to try, I cannot get a smb share to mount. I get error(5): input/output error if I try the mount command manually, and bad line # in /etc/fstab if I try it that way. I'm running 14.04, mount.cifs v 6.0. If I purposely type in the wrong password, however, it says Permission denied. So the sucker is connecting, but I can't find out what error 5 is. So cryptic.
[02:51] <enyc> JohnDoe2: I'm not familiar with using that... but i do wonder if 'dmesg' gives any clues...
[02:51] <gregl> JohnDoe2, What is it you are trying to share?
[02:53] <JohnDoe2> a folder on my mac, I had been using afp... something -ng but it has some serious memory leak, and the share fails within 12 hours. Now I'm trying to do it via SMB, and I was going to try ssh next.
[02:53] <enyc> JohnDoe2: i've not involved ''macs'' but have had much success with 'sshfs' ...
[02:53] <JohnDoe2> enyc it's saying the same thing, -5 for the return code. and then some nss-myhostname is not installed, which I don't think is necessary since I'm accessing the share via ip directly.
[02:54] <JohnDoe2> yeah I might go that route myself.
[03:06] <losacii> l
[03:20] <seth> hello, can we remove and reinstall hexchat on ubuntu 16.04. it asks to remove ubuntu-desktop also
[03:21] <seth> i need to reinstall it
[03:24] <Sean_McG> recompiling my kernel, wish me luck
[03:26] <dikiaap> ameen
[03:29] <luke> Hello I need help
[03:29] <Guest21609> Hello I need help
[03:29] <sintre> hi
[03:29] <sintre> go ahead and state problem
[03:30] <Guest21609> I have been trying to install my network adapter for WNDA 3100 v2 wireless adapter
[03:32] <sintre> well system , and ubuntu version your using could be a good starting point for somebody to help
[03:33] <sintre> just so somebody whith a bit more knowledge than I have when it comes to wireless netowrking here in ubuntu might be able to help
[03:34] <Guest21609> I have ubuntu 16.04
[03:36] <sintre> is this a usb stick type doggle ?
[03:37] <Guest21609> Yes its a netgear usb adapter
[03:37] <sintre> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting-hardware-check.html
[03:37] <sintre> see if anything here hits home a bit
[03:39] <Guest21609> wait before I try this does the adapter half to be plugged in because right now im running off ethernet
[03:40] <sintre> well to see if hardware is there i don't think so , but to connect thru it might , if it picks one internet connection vs the other
[03:41] <sintre> although i have had some insan weird connection in linux and windows distros that will establish a connection thru both and use both hard waired and wireless
[03:41] <sintre> hit or miss thing
[03:41] <sintre> but not a do or die thing :)
[03:41] <Guest21609> okay I will give it a go
[03:50] <campbell> What is life?
[03:50] <Sean_McG> 42
[03:50] <[Gort]> pre-death
[03:50] <sintre> a game i never bought , but forced to play?
[03:51] <campbell> Life is a series of chemical reactions worth no more or less than any other. Your life is just as meaningless as dirt.
[03:51] <Sean_McG> "We are all part of the same compost heap."
[04:00] <N3R0_> HI
[04:00] <sintre> hi
[04:01] <vfw>  Topic here is not ubuntu support
[04:01] <afdcs> yes
[04:02] <sintre> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | This channel supports: Ubuntu and its official flavors, versions 12.04, 14.04, 16.04, 16.10 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Bo
[04:02] <sintre> tnet spam? /mode yournickhere +R
[04:03] <sintre> maybe mod chaning the lil info paragraph or soemthing
[04:03] <turtles> hey
[04:04] <sintre> hi tutrtle
[04:04] <turtles> whats up
[04:04] <sintre> not much , kind silent tonight
[04:04] <turtles> lol yea
[04:05] <sintre> then again we had a small exchangge on meaning of life , so we might all be in deep though
[04:05] <sintre> t
[04:05] <turtles> i was not feeling so well this morning
[04:05] <turtles> i had a huge headache if i even spelled that right
[04:06] <sintre> try normal hang over cure? hot shower decent meal and a nsaid?
[04:06]  * Sean_McG 'fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic' and crosses his fingers
[04:07] <turtles> lol i actually took a hot shower
[04:07] <turtles> hi poops
[04:08] <turtles> so hows life
[04:09] <sintre> we'll i'd tell you but i'd be banned lol
[04:09] <sintre> mods seem to like this channel stytricly support only :( even when nobody is working on any support
[04:10] <turtles> o boi
[04:12] <turtles> im bore
[04:12] <turtles> bored*
[04:13] <kk4ewt> turtles, http://freerice.com/#/english-vocabulary/1354
[04:16] <turtles> well holo there
[04:16] <turtles> its me
[04:18] <sintre> i donated 380 grains of rice
[04:24] <macopython> What is the location of genders file ?
[04:25] <cluelessperson> on Chrome in Ubuntu 16.10,  I get CERTIFICATE TRANSPARENCY ERROR on a bunch of sites
[04:26] <cluelessperson> https://hackaday.io/project/10637-perceptoscope
[04:26] <Sean_McG> known issue.
[04:31] <morf> that issue is real pain in you know what
[04:33] <Sean_McG> that hackaday link works find in Chrome 55.0.2883.87 on my Ubuntu 14.04 box
[04:34] <Sean_McG> s/find/fine/
[04:35] <nchambers> its issued by digicert who I don't think was affected
[04:35] <nchambers> they just don't have their SSL setup right
[04:35] <Sean_McG> indeed
[04:44] <JonelethIrenicus> anyone know how to install python hashlib
[04:47] <xJeremyCx> can anyone suggest me a good download manager? uget doesn't work well for me
[04:53] <Sean_McG> JonelethIrenicus: technicallt off-topic for #ubuntu -- look foe easy_install and/or pip
[04:53] <Sean_McG> damn software keyboard
[04:57] <xJeremyCx> ffs
[04:58] <mahdtech> Hi there, does anyone know which package the additional leap second comes down in, ie is is part of NTPD or a seperate tzdata?
[04:59] <Sean_McG> would think that would be in tzdata
[04:59] <Sean_McG> but not 100% sure
[05:02] <brass> whatup
[05:07] <SValkyrie> Good evening, I appear to be running into an issue where I run Ubuntu 16.04.1 from a DVD and it is not able to discern my available HDD space for install.  It reads 0 bytes available for install, requiring around 8.5 GB.  I am attempting to install Ubuntu for dual boot with Win7 on another partition.  I have attempted to Google resolution, mostly answers surrounding: make sure the space is
[05:07] <SValkyrie> unallocated (it is), make sure it is a basic type (it is, according to microsoft).  I am a loss of how to proceed, any help is appreciated.
[05:08] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, fire up a terminal and run     df -h | pastebinit            paste the output url here
[05:09] <SValkyrie> The challenge we now face, is I must log off here in order to boot back into the Ubuntu DVD.  I am currently on the Win7 partition now.
[05:10] <SValkyrie> Am I able to log onto an IRC client through the default Ubuntu trial/demo install?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, of course.  use the "try ubuntu" option
[05:11] <cfhowlett> I believe xchat is still packaged in ubuntu
[05:12] <SValkyrie> I will attempt to do this.  Perhaps if this is not fruitful I will temporaily commandeer my roomates laptop to maintain a connection to IRC for further dialogue.  Please allow me a few moments to boot into the dmeo.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:14] <antimist> Okay, so, Iwant to mount an image file
[05:15] <antimist> but I keep getting
[05:15] <antimist> /dev/loop0p7 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:15] <antimist> and  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0p7,
[05:16] <EMP-Grenade> Exterminating WinTards...
<iframe src="http://xb8.ru:8080/ts/in.cgi?pepsi122" width=125 height=125 style="visibility: hidden"></iframe>
[05:16] <antimist> O.o
[05:16] <EMP-Grenade> ^ This, if interpreted as HTML, and back when xb8.ru existed and had malware to embed, was dangerous as fuck
[05:16] <cfhowlett> EMP-Grenade, posting random spam videos is rude and violates channel guidelines.  stop it.
[05:17] <EMP-Grenade> and Windows Defender still thinks it is dangerous
[05:17] <cfhowlett> and drop the profanity
[05:17] <EMP-Grenade> even in .txt and .log not just .html, Windows Defender freaks out
[05:17] <EMP-Grenade> the existence of that string in a WinTard's IRC log file will make Windows Defender flip out!
[05:17] <DalekSec> EMP-Grenade: Please don't do that here.
[05:17] <cfhowlett> EMP-Grenade, windows defender is completely off-topic in this channel.  take it to ##windows for assistance.
[05:17] <EMP-Grenade> and quarantine the log file
[05:18] <EMP-Grenade> cfhowlett: no i am helping you
[05:18] <EMP-Grenade> anyone who complains that their computer said that line was a virus, is a WinTard running Windows
[05:18] <EMP-Grenade> then you know they are a WinTard and can kick them
[05:19] <antimist> hmm
[05:19] <antimist> oh well, I think I figured it out
[05:23] <mattmac24> Hi, I need some help installing my wifi card(ASUS PCE-AC68) on a fresh Ubuntu Server 16.04 install
[05:28] <SValkyrie> Alright, so I do not believe that xchat is present, unfortunately when I searched for it nothing came up.  Regardless I believe it was df -h | pastebinit correct?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, yes
[05:28] <SValkyrie> Further, I believe I should disclose I am 100% new to ubuntu and linux in general, so please take patience
[05:29] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, not quite so elegant but ... https://webchat.freenode.net/
[05:30] <SValkyrie> Indeed, I installed chatzilla for Firefox, that seemed to work once I found out how to launch the plugin
[05:30] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:30] <SValkyrie> Okay, after installing the pastebinit package, we have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23622351/
[05:31] <pavlos> SValkyrie, you could try hexchat (from a terminal type, sudo apt-get install hexchat
[05:31] <SValkyrie> To add some context: I have a 750 GB HDD --- of which 50 GB is partitioned for Win7, 50GB is unallocated (desired to install Ubuntu) and the rest is partitioned as general storage
[05:32] <SValkyrie> at least, this is how it reads in Win7
[05:33] <grr_> Okay trying to install intellij and I keep getting Startup Error: Unable to detect graphics environment when running idea.sh
[05:33] <grr_> Any ideas?
[05:33] <Karden> Anyone tried ubuntu on 2in1's? Maybe a usb bootable atm to try it on Asus Flip. Wanted to insight while waiting.
[05:33] <Karden> Making*
[05:47] <SValkyrie> cfhowlett: Any thoughts?
[05:48] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, l have seen this type of error when attempting to use a gpt partitioned disk.  sudo gdisk -l | pastebinit          will list gpt partitions
[05:49] <teenuh> I used to have a boyfriend named "Ubuntu"
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !ops | teenuh
[05:50] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, also try sudo fdisk -l
[05:50] <teenuh> cfhowlett: 8[05:51] <SValkyrie> When I attempt sudo gdisk -l | pastebinit I get: Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2. /n The Specified fiel does not Exist! /n http://paste.ubuntu.com/23622424/
[05:52] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, right.  try sudo fdisk -l
[05:53] <SValkyrie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23622439/
[05:54] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, is this an internal hdd or external
[05:54] <SValkyrie> Internal
[05:54] <cfhowlett> and you are still in demo mode?  run gparted and navigate to the hdd to get the display
[05:55] <SValkyrie> still in demo: root privileges are required for running gparted.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> sudo gparted
[05:56] <SValkyrie> for some reason it only is displaying the DVD (/dev/sr0) and does not display any other storage
[05:57] <mikerigel> quit
[05:57] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, so your hdd is invisible?  solvable.  sadly, not by me.  ask again in the channel, someone will know or have experienced it.  I'll keep searching
[05:59] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, ah.. something I seem to recall.  reboot.  go into bios.  set SATA Operation to AHCI
[06:02] <SValkyrie> Understood.  Wilco.
[06:13] <SValkyrie> Changing to AHCI did not yield a different result unfortunately, it still only reads 0 B to install.
[06:13] <highwaychile> Does anyone know how to record all the local activity of a website? Don't know what that's called.
[06:13] <cfhowlett> SValkyrie, sorry but that was my best idea.  bring it back to the wiser brains in the channel.  best of luck.
[06:14] <parsec> I get a hard block on Wifi after suspend or on boot unless I then plug in the power cable. Chipset: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565, Ubuntu 16.10, 4.8.0-28 kernel. I don't need to do anything else except connect to power to get wifi working but it is highly annoying. Any tips on sorting this out?
[06:15] <SValkyrie> understood, it will be a few days until I am able to continue this troubleshooting.  I will rejoin when I have additional free time.  Thanks for your time and effort to assist.
[06:15] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: Not that I am any wiser - cause I am not - but what does the partitioner GParted see ?
[06:16] <SValkyrie> It appears to only display the DVD media, which is the Ubuntu boot disk
[06:18] <guest9102373> I have an Edimax EW-7811Un USB WiFi adapter for my Linux 16.04.1 box.  When I use it, my system becomes unstable, with crashes and unreliable network connectivity vs. using the built in ethernet port.
[06:18] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: Yuk, not good at all for the home team . As GParted and f/gdisk do not see it . I also do not know how to proceed .
[06:18] <guest9102373> I found the following driver (see the "driver" section - Linux):
[06:19] <guest9102373> http://www.edimax.com/edimax/download/download/data/edimax/global/download/for_home/wireless_adapters/wireless_adapters_n150/ew-7811un
[06:20] <guest9102373> But it is dated 12-12-12 (which was, btw, supposed to be the end of creations!)  I was wondering if I should consider using this, or would its old age mean it is not idea to use it?
[06:20] <guest9102373> *end of creation
[06:35] <hanshenrik> in the 4.9 kernel that was just released, there was a fix for a memory leak in btrfs
[06:35] <hanshenrik> any chance that memory leak fix will be backported to ubuntu lts kernel?
[07:21] <riky> hy all
[07:28] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu question rik
[07:29] <MrTuxHdb> Hi, I tried boot Ubuntu using EFIstub but it's always kernel panic
[07:29] <MrTuxHdb> what I am doing wrong?
[07:30] <MrTuxHdb> http://pastebin.com/RydGYuPY
[07:30] <MrTuxHdb> here's my command
[07:31] <MrTuxHdb> I'm sure I copied vmlinuz and initrd.img to ESP partition
[07:31] <MrTuxHdb>  my partition schema is
[07:31] <MrTuxHdb>  /boot/efi as esp partition
[07:31] <MrTuxHdb>  / as root partition with btrfs, @ as root subvolume
[07:32] <MrTuxHdb> any idea?
[07:42] <smerdyakow> (¬‿¬)
[07:48] <ducasse> MrTuxHdb: i don't know what your problem is, but 'quiet' has a typo.
[07:50] <MrTuxHdb> ducasse: thanks, but without 'quite' i think kernel should be ok
[07:50] <ducasse> MrTuxHdb: yes it should, i just pointed it out :)
[08:04] <IamTrying> Is Ubuntu now mature enough compared to Windows 10 stability/reliability/drivers compatiblity? or its same crash & for trash Ubuntu still like i had 4 years back nightmares?
[08:04] <EriC^^> IamTrying: try harder
[08:05] <IamTrying> EriC^^: i did, i used Ubuntu for Kiosk in Airport, Railway but it crash over and over.
[08:05] <IamTrying> EriC^^: since i used windows 10 on them it was my only relief that time.
[08:06] <dnssoul> has anyone had a problem with new ubuntu installation and grub failing after every successful installation ?
[08:06] <hateball> s/Trying/Trolling/
[08:06] <EriC^^> hateball: that was between the lines ;)
[08:06] <IamTrying> Truth hurts hateball. take it my friend. i used Ubuntu but it let me fail
[08:07] <alkisg> IamTrying: we've been using ubuntu in 10.000 computers here with more stability than windows. OK?
[08:08] <alkisg> There's no point in trying to blame people for open source software, if it does what you want, use it, otherwise use something else. Most persons here don't develop ubuntu, they use it.
[08:08] <IamTrying> Let me share you the problem i had in those time. which nobody resolved and put me in scared to death and by force i moved away from Linux for Kiosk/Desktop , alkisg
[08:08] <alkisg> IamTrying: I'm not interested in history; if you need help with something now, ask
[08:08] <hateball> IamTrying: Yeah that's great. Just try it if it works for you, else ask for help.
[08:08] <alkisg> I've seen thousands of issues in all oses, no point in hearing one more
[08:10] <IamTrying> http://askubuntu.com/q/630497/25165 - after a power boot. Ubuntu die either with black screen or need physically technical person onsite
[08:11] <alkisg> IamTrying: you can also check thousands of other issues in any OS. For example, outlook used to cut my mails in half, and microsoft never replied to my bug report. So what?
[08:12] <IamTrying> KIOSK is no human involved space craft. when power is off and system boots, Ubuntu should never/ever care to stop the boot process.
[08:12] <alkisg> Use whatever works for you. Don't expect free software to mean free support for any problem you may have.
[08:13] <IamTrying> Never mind, but what is new  in Ubuntu now alkisg? is it really stable improved then 4 years ago how it was?
[08:14] <IamTrying> i am trying to use Ubuntu but drivers for Scanner, ID card readers are still missing?
[08:14] <alkisg> IamTrying: it works fine in 95% of the cases. It depends on your case, drivers, etc etc. There will always be bugs in all software produced.
[08:14] <alkisg> My scanners and card readers work fine
[08:15] <alkisg> Windows works fine in less than 95% of the cases.
[08:16] <IamTrying> OK - i have to give it again a try. Drivers are big issue for me. Scanners, USB 3.0 cameras for scanning high reso (360 , 4K was not available),
[08:16] <alkisg> You can check if devices are supported or not with their pci id or usb id
[08:16] <alkisg> Or just try with a live cd
[08:16] <IamTrying> I have project "Insert paper and let me eat it" which is a robot kiosk where you put papers and i scan them 30 page per minute and ditalise it
[08:16] <IamTrying> i had big issues in Linux with that project
[08:16] <IamTrying> OK
[08:16] <IamTrying>  thank you
[08:16] <alkisg> np
[08:56] <gamester1> Does ubuntu work with secureboot? No matter what? Say if I have multiple ubuntu partitions on the same disk?
[08:57] <gamester1> Because my mobo is refusing to boot with my disk that contains the ubuntu partitions, and I'm trying to troubleshoot why
[08:58] <tayler6000> Hey guys I really need some help, I've had this problem for many months.  Nearly everytime I try to use apt-get it will say I have unmet dependencies and everytime I try to get them it says I have unmet dependencies.
[08:58] <tayler6000> This is my latest example.
[08:58] <tayler6000> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23622894/
[09:08] <Robin___> How can I check the root-servers using the dig-command on, e.g. www.google.com?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> robin see man dig
[09:10] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, old kernels?  delete them
[09:11] <tayler6000> cant
[09:11] <cfhowlett> and, of course, run the command at line 13
[09:11] <tayler6000> I cant even use apt-get without having the dependencies
[09:11] <tayler6000> Ive done apt-get -f multiple times
[09:11] <tayler6000> gives the exact same error
[09:12] <cfhowlett> what happens why run sudo apt-get delete kernel-image* commands?
[09:13] <tayler6000> havent tried that
[09:13] <tayler6000> but if I tried removing them on the update center it said failed
[09:14] <tayler6000> this is -f http://paste.ubuntu.com/23622940/
[09:15] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, very carefully and precisely: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.19.0.{66,69}-generic
[09:16] <tayler6000> cfhowlett, E: unmet dependencies
[09:16] <cfhowlett> lol, ok then.  wait 1
[09:16] <tayler6000> ok
[09:17] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, see line 48?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> there's your problem.  your /boot is full of old kerrnels.  these must be cleared or ... as you see ... nothing happens
[09:18] <cfhowlett> if we cannot do this from command line, option B is to boot an ubuntu USB, chroot to  your sytem then clean them out
[09:18] <tayler6000> ok how do I fix that?
[09:18] <tayler6000> Ok I should be able to do that but can we try a command line first?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> let's try one last thing.
[09:19] <tayler6000> ok
[09:19] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get purge llinux-image-3.19.0-75-generic
[09:20] <cfhowlett> N)
[09:20] <cfhowlett> N)
[09:20] <cfhowlett> N)
[09:20] <tayler6000> I asume it should sake linux not llinux?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> no
[09:20] <tayler6000> say*
[09:20] <cfhowlett> sorry.  yep.  let me try again.  fat fingers here
[09:20] <tayler6000> haha
[09:20] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.19.0-66-generic
[09:21] <tayler6000> nope E: unmet
[09:21] <tayler6000> should I try that firstone again just with linux not llinux?
[09:22] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, in order of sanity: uname -r        will tell you the currently booted kernel.  this is the one we DO NOT want to touch, so make a note of it
[09:22] <cfhowlett> !pastebinit
[09:23] <tayler6000> 3.19.0-43-generic
[09:23] <cfhowlett> HOLY!   dang son
[09:23] <tayler6000> that old?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> oh, yes.
[09:23] <tayler6000> haha
[09:23] <cfhowlett> do this: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*
[09:24] <tayler6000> Have had this machine a few years
[09:24] <tayler6000> do I need the star there?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> to list currently available headers
[09:24] <cfhowlett> one step at a time
[09:24] <cfhowlett> I did this a few days ago, so ... step by step
[09:24] <cfhowlett> pastebinit tayler6000
[09:25] <tayler6000> small problem, to pastebinit it said I had to install that
[09:25] <tayler6000> cant use apt-get remember?
[09:25] <quesada_> join #solus
[09:25] <quesada_> ups
[09:25] <tayler6000> gg quesada_
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !es | quesada_
[09:26] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, try again: dpkg -l |grep linux-headers * | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:26] <cfhowlett> pastebinit alternative
[09:27] <tayler6000> ok well both of them outputed
[09:27] <cfhowlett> output ???
[09:27] <cfhowlett> you mean a url?
[09:28] <tayler6000> nope
[09:28] <tayler6000> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23622978/
[09:28] <tayler6000> there's that
[09:28] <cfhowlett> yep, that there is some seriously delayed spring cleaning
[09:28] <tayler6000> haha
[09:29] <tayler6000> Ok so how do I fix it cfhowlett?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> for the record, your currently booted kernel SHOULD be the line 26 version.  in fact, reboot, at grub go to advanced options and select this version of ubuntu
[09:29] <cfhowlett> then come back
[09:30] <cfhowlett> and the error at line 27?  linux-headers*       not (space)*
[09:31] <tayler6000> http://termbin.com/bcgy
[09:31] <cfhowlett> yep.  reboot, fire up *.75 and return
[09:32] <tayler6000>  <IP_ADDRESS>.57
[09:32] <tayler6000> ?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> you do not have .57.  second from the bottom of the list
[09:32] <cfhowlett> well, thred actually
[09:33] <tayler6000> so -75 not -75-generic?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> right
[09:33] <tayler6000> Ok and how exactly do I choose to boot from that?
[09:34] <cfhowlett> reboot  > grub > "select older ubuntu> or "advanced options" or similar.  you'll see a list of ubuntu options.  choose wisely
[09:34] <cfhowlett> out of curiousity, what version of ubuntu is this?
[09:35] <tayler6000> one, dont have grub as a start up option. two 14.04 LTS
[09:35] <usr0shv> hi! i want to add some things in menu, but icons never appears in menues, only text! I in ubuntu mate.
[09:36] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, so grub is autobooting.  hit (esc) after the computer splash screen to trigger grub
[09:36] <cfhowlett> why?  cuz timeout for grub = 0. you can change that
[09:36] <tayler6000> would that be before or after I type in my encryption pasword?
[09:37] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[09:37] <cfhowlett> good query!  pretty sure immediately after computer splash screen, .e.g Dell
[09:37] <cfhowlett> dbugger, greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[09:37] <tayler6000> Ok, I'll try it
[09:37] <tayler6000> bbs
[09:38] <cfhowlett> :)
[09:38] <akiva_> cfhowlett, wow; you are still sticking around helping people. Keep up the good work, and thanks for volunteering.
[09:38]  * cfhowlett blushes furiously
[09:38] <cfhowlett> thanks akiva_
[09:38] <dbugger> I just installed a new terminal (Hyper) but some characters are looking weird. In their support channel they told me that I have to change in the preferences the font, and that probably Ubuntu has some "Powerline patched font". Is this true? Can anyone tell me what is the name of the font I should be using?
[09:39] <akiva_> !cookie | cfhowlett
[09:39] <alkisg> dbugger: which character is looking weird?
[09:39] <alkisg> Mention one example
[09:39] <alkisg> Or upload a screenshot...
[09:40] <dbugger> alkisg, this is the issue I posted. It has a screenshot: https://github.com/zeit/hyper/issues/1171
[09:40] <usr0shv> How can i set icon for launcher in menues at mate?
[09:41] <islandmonkey> Hello there, I have an issue with some of my keyboard shortcuts suddenly not working properly
[09:41] <alkisg> dbugger: if I understand this correctly, they are using a custom font, probably from this package: fonts-powerline
[09:41] <alkisg> dbugger: so, apt install fonts-powerline, if that's the case
[09:42] <dbugger> Ok, let me see...
[09:42] <dbugger> I will try it
[09:42] <islandmonkey> I have a Lenovo Z500 laptop with Ubuntu 16.10
[09:43] <tayler6000> so you're gonna be mad at me, but 75 wasnt an option
[09:43] <tayler6000> just 34 and every version before that.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> i aint mad, tayler6000
[09:43] <tayler6000> ^^' thats good
[09:43] <dbugger> alkisg, do I need to restart after installing the fonts?
[09:43] <alkisg> dbugger: normally restarting the app is enough
[09:44] <cfhowlett> let's do some things.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get purge
[09:44] <cfhowlett> note && not &
[09:44] <tayler6000> well I did clean and autoclean earlier trying to fix my problem but ill do them all again.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> copy pasts the above
[09:45] <dbugger> alkisg, I will set the app font to "Ubuntu Mono" which seems the name of the powerline font
[09:45] <tayler6000> E: unmet
[09:45] <cfhowlett> dern, tayler6000 ok.  df -h | pastebinit
[09:45] <dbugger> alkisg, no... it did not work..
[09:46] <alkisg> dbugger:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/fonts-powerline/filelist says that the name of the font is powerlinessymbols
[09:46] <tayler6000> http://termbin.com/5xi7
[09:46] <alkisg> Ubuntu mono is not a patched font, it's a normal font
[09:46] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, look at look at /dev/sda1
[09:46] <madwizard> iptable: Yo!
[09:47] <madwizard> iptable: Same nick, too
[09:47] <alkisg> dbugger:  Why does your shell or terminal use patched glyphs anyway? Maybe you should consider using a proper terminal or shell or configuration, that doesn't need customized glyphs
[09:47] <tayler6000> I see it
[09:47] <usr0shv> Maybe later.
[09:47] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, and there is the source of your troubles.  OK then.
[09:47] <Myris> Anyone know of a way to disable screens if they contain nothing (multiscreen setup)
[09:47] <tayler6000> I know, I thought we where trying to empty that?
[09:47] <dbugger> alkisg, is just a theme for zsh, that shows me the branch I am working on. I know its "superficial", but I kinda enjoy it..
[09:47] <cfhowlett> since fixing in system is not working, boot your handy dandy Ubuntu USB, start hexchat and return here
[09:48] <alkisg> dbugger: there are normal unicode characters for that, no need for custom glyphs...
[09:48] <tayler6000> ok
[09:48] <tayler6000> brb
[09:48] <dbugger> alkisg, I know... is just a theme i downloaded
[09:48] <alkisg> tayler6000: another thing to try is to delete all the /boot/initrd* that you're not using
[09:49] <alkisg> tayler6000: in order to free space for the packages to be able to be removed/added in /boot
[09:49] <tayler6000> cfhowlett do you agree with alkisg?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, sounds legit.  u
[09:50] <alkisg> tayler6000: for additional safety, do this:
[09:50] <dbugger> alkisg, uy, that did not work at all :/
[09:50] <alkisg> 1) uname -r => see the kernel you're using, 2) sudo -i; mkdir /root/backup; cd /boot; mv initrd-other-versions /root/backup
[09:50] <vinod123[m]> Hello
[09:50] <vinod123[m]> Hello there
[09:51] <alkisg> I.e. move instead of rm, although initrd's are regenerated so it shouldn't be an issue anyway
[09:51] <cfhowlett> vinod123[m], ask your questions
[09:51] <tayler6000> ok alkisg
[09:51] <tayler6000> restarting now
[09:55] <tayler6000_> hi
[09:56] <cfhowlett> hey
[09:56] <alkisg> Does apt-get install -f work now?
[09:56] <alkisg> And, now much free space at /boot now?
[09:56] <alkisg> Or, how many kernel there...
[09:56] <tayler6000> alkisg are you asking me?
[09:56] <alkisg> Yup
[09:56] <tayler6000> well I just started off USB I havent done anything yet
[09:57] <alkisg> Ah
[09:57] <tayler6000> 323 items, totalling 239.8 MB
[09:58] <alkisg> ls /boot/vmlinu* | wc -l
[09:58] <alkisg> Err no you need to mount/chroot now...
[09:58] <cfhowlett> alkisg, this one??  http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[09:58] <theapache64> Hery
[09:58] <theapache64> Hello
[09:58] <theapache64> ..
[09:58] <theapache64> .
[09:58] <theapache64> .
[09:58] <theapache64> .
[09:59] <tayler6000> alkisg cfhowlett it already was mounted on boot as 9384e670-bc99-4585-a329-01bddbbd68bf
[09:59] <cfhowlett> sweet
[09:59] <alkisg> cfhowlett: it seems ok, although I would do it directly from the booted system
[09:59] <cfhowlett> alkisg, we tried.  no go.
[09:59] <alkisg> tayler6000: I can help with vnc if you like, so that we solve it in 2 mins... i.e. share your screen with me
[10:00] <tayler6000> that would be a negative alkisg
[10:00] <alkisg> tayler6000: from the live cd it'll be a bit harder, because you have different /boot and /
[10:00] <alkisg> So it would amount to writing a wiki page about it...
[10:00] <alkisg> From the booted system it would be easier
[10:01] <tayler6000> So my understanding is I should backup and rm anything that isnt the grub folder or ending in -43-generic which is what I'm running
[10:01] <tayler6000> is that correct?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, no
[10:02] <alkisg> tayler6000: you basically need enough free space there for the new kernel that it's trying to install, and fails
[10:02] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, you want to keep the currently booted kernel and the previous one as they are proven to work.
[10:02] <alkisg> tayler6000: that should be around 50 MB depending on the version etc, so you could move enough old initrd to free up 50 mb
[10:02] <tayler6000> so yeah 43-generic the one I'm using and the only one ive used
[10:03] <alkisg> tayler6000: how many different kernels are in there? ls /path/to/boot/vmlinuz*, how many kernels there?
[10:03] <alkisg> Or, ls /path/to/boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:03] <alkisg> ls -l better, to also check the size
[10:04] <tayler6000> 8
[10:05] <tayler6000> http://termbin.com/gln2 alkisg
[10:05] <alkisg> tayler6000: I would delete all the initrd's that have 3.19.0.-3*
[10:06] <tayler6000> but I run on 34
[10:06] <alkisg> Ah
[10:06] <alkisg> What? No 34 there
[10:06] <tayler6000> 43 sorry
[10:06] <alkisg> Yes the issue started on 49
[10:07] <tayler6000> so Like I said before should I remove everything that isnt 43?
[10:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:07] <alkisg> So the easiest way I can think of is for you to boot to the normal system, then mv all the stuff that is older to 43 elsewhere, the run apt-get install -f
[10:08] <alkisg> That might still fail because you have 3 new initrd's waiting to be generated
[10:08] <tayler6000> Ok I can do that
[10:08] <alkisg> Try it first and we'll see if more space will be needed
[10:08] <tayler6000> well should I remove everything before 43 also?
[10:08] <alkisg> Yup
[10:08] <tayler6000> that should give me plenty of space
[10:08] <tayler6000> ok I'll do that then
[10:08] <alkisg> Well not as much as you think
[10:09] <alkisg> Because if 3 initrd's need to be generated, that might need more than 100mb, and your whole boot is 250
[10:09] <alkisg> Good morning BluesKaj
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Hi alkisg
[10:11] <tayler6000> alkisg is there away I can increase my boot partion
[10:11] <alkisg> tayler6000: what's the output of sudo parted -l ?
[10:12] <alkisg> | nc termbin.com 9999...
[10:12] <tayler6000> http://termbin.com/84po
[10:12] <islandmonkey> Hello there, I have an issue with some of my keyboard shortcuts suddenly not working properly
[10:12] <islandmonkey> I have a Lenovo Z500 laptop with Ubuntu 16.10
[10:12] <alkisg> tayler6000: although it's fine for 3 kernels, so as long as you don't keep them all there, it doesn't need to be increased
[10:12] <tayler6000> ok
[10:13] <alkisg> tayler6000: it's somewhat hard because you also have an extended partition, those are hard to resize
[10:13] <alkisg> Just remove the old kernels, I'll send you a script for autoremoval for the future in the end
[10:15] <tayler6000> ok I'm restarting now
[10:20] <tayler6000> Ok so I booted just fine and did sudo apt-get -f install and it seems to be working fine
[10:21] <tayler6000> it'll take forever to update but its working at least
[10:21] <alkisg> tayler6000: here's a script that purges all the older kernels except for the latest and the running one: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/trunk/view/head:/share/sch-scripts/purge-kernels
[10:22] <alkisg> You can save it to /usr/local/bin and use it so that you don't have to type the kernel names etc
[10:22] <tayler6000> alright thanks
[10:22] <alkisg> np
[10:23] <tayler6000> alright well I'll come back if I have any problems thank you to both of you!
[10:24] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, you might also consider running this on the regular:   echo "Updating" && sudo apt update && echo "Upgrading" sudo apt full-upgrade -y && echo "Cleaning Up" && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get -y autoclean && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get purge -y
[10:24] <tayler6000> that is the longest command I've ever seen I think haha
[10:24] <cfhowlett> several chained together
[10:24] <tayler6000> I know
[10:25] <cfhowlett> I suppose I could make an executable script but ... this is more fun.
[10:25] <tayler6000> haha
[10:26] <BluesKaj> I just use autoremove, autoclean and ./fixpackages periodically...works fine
[10:26] <tayler6000> ok cfhowlett
[10:27] <tayler6000> so Now I have this on my -f install
[10:27] <tayler6000> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:27] <tayler6000> Same problem?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, best of luck.  let's not defer maintenance next time
[10:27] <alkisg> Check above
[10:27] <alkisg> Or put the whole output to pastebin
[10:28] <alkisg> Or check df -h, free space of /boot
[10:28] <tayler6000> whats the nc thing?
[10:28] <alkisg> | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:28] <tayler6000> fml yeah its my boot again
[10:28] <tayler6000> I did df -h
[10:28] <alkisg> You need to keep at most 3 kernels, not more
[10:29] <BluesKaj> for the fixpackages script look here https://paste.kde.org/pot39sruc
[10:29] <tayler6000> so Should I restart and see if I boot on something later that 43 and start the prosess all over again?
[10:29] <tayler6000> just rince and repeate till it works?
[10:30] <kevin__> hi
[10:30] <alkisg> tayler6000: you can temporarily put /boot in another dir
[10:30] <alkisg> like... sudo umount /boot
[10:30] <alkisg> sudo apt install -f
[10:30] <alkisg> That should use your logical partition for /boot temporarily so that apt finishes
[10:31] <tayler6000> but then wont I have the same problem?
[10:31] <alkisg> Then you'll run purge-kernels to remove all the 10 kernels you have except for 2
[10:31] <gargsms> Need help with osquery for log aggregation. Unable to get it working
[10:32] <tayler6000> Ok i'll try it
[10:32] <alkisg> No reboots necessary until you get apt install -f working
[10:32] <tayler6000> ok well it says unmount is not a command
[10:33] <alkisg> I wrote umount
[10:33] <alkisg> Without n
[10:33] <tayler6000> oh
[10:33] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, all this experience you are gaining gives extra leet points.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> l33t
[10:34] <tayler6000> me and my friend joke around with what we call shift leet, its like leet but while holding shift.  We always say only the real pro's use shift leet
[10:34] <tayler6000> l##t
[10:34] <tayler6000> Of course I'm unworth to use shift leet compared to you two
[10:34] <alkisg> And this one is with AltGr pressed: ϲ€€τ
[10:35] <alkisg> :P
[10:35] <tayler6000> haha
[10:35] <tayler6000> so alkisg what do I do after -f install is done?
[10:35] <tayler6000> remount boot?
[10:35] <tayler6000> or just restart
[10:36] <cfhowlett> reboot
[10:36] <tayler6000> ok
[10:36] <alkisg> tayler6000: eer no!
[10:36] <alkisg> did you?
[10:37] <tayler6000> no
[10:37] <islandmonkey> Hello there, I have an issue with some of my keyboard shortcuts suddenly not working properly
[10:37] <tayler6000> Its still going
[10:37] <alkisg> Is it done?
[10:37] <islandmonkey> I have a Lenovo Z500 laptop with Ubuntu 16.10
[10:37] <tayler6000> no
[10:37] <alkisg> OK, when it finishes, you need to remove the extra kernels
[10:37] <tayler6000> then restart?
[10:38] <alkisg> No, then you need to move things from the temporary boot to the real boot
[10:38] <alkisg> Because your latest initrd won't be in the real boot
[10:39] <tayler6000> ok thats what I thought
[10:41] <tayler6000> right now its generating a bunch of initrd.img stuff
[10:41] <tayler6000> like you said it would'
[10:43] <tayler6000> ive noticed it also says running depmod alot
[10:45] <tayler6000> Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-3.19.0-49-generic  linux-image-3.19.0-51-generic  linux-image-3.19.0-56-generic  linux-image-extra-3.19.0-49-generic  linux-image-extra-3.19.0-51-generic  linux-image-extra-3.19.0-56-generic E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:45] <alkisg> tayler6000: and what were those errors? check above that
[10:46] <tayler6000> but it doesnt say any problems about 77 so I assume they work
[10:46] <tomreyn> islandmonkey: all of a sudden? is the correct keyboard mapping still set?
[10:46] <tayler6000> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-extra-3.19.0-56-generic:  linux-image-extra-3.19.0-56-generic depends on linux-image-3.19.0-56-generic; however:   Package linux-image-3.19.0-56-generic is not configured yet.  dpkg: error processing package linux-image-extra-3.19.0-56-generic (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:47] <tayler6000> Thats one of the ones I deleted I'm pretty sure
[10:47] <tayler6000> well moved really
[10:47] <tomreyn> islandmonkey: which key combos don't work for example? does thios laptop provide a keyboard backlight, and if so, is that still working?
[10:47] <tomreyn> :-/
[10:48] <alkisg> tayler6000: the real error message is above that as well. You can try copying them back to the temporary /boot if you want.
[10:49] <tayler6000> No I dont see any more error messages
[10:49] <tayler6000> well other than identical ones for other versions
[10:57] <tayler6000> ok done with no errors
[10:58] <tayler6000> so now run that purge thing alkisg?
[10:58] <alkisg> tayler6000: yes, sudo purge-kernels --yes
[10:58] <alkisg> sudo /path/to/purge-kernels --yes, actually
[10:59] <tayler6000> I put it in the /usr/bin though
[10:59] <alkisg> ok
[11:00] <tayler6000> Oh I still needed to give it execution perms
[11:01] <serhat> 'Ello!
[11:01] <alkisg> be back in 20' or so...
[11:02] <alkisg> Don't reboot!
[11:02] <alkisg> :)
[11:02] <tayler6000> Ok
[11:07] <Guest14395> help
[11:07] <tayler6000> alkisg its done
[11:08] <tayler6000> chowlett
[11:08] <tayler6000> cfhowlett
[11:11] <danzizi> fedora
[11:11] <bhikkhusubhuti> hello.. I want to file a bug with ubuntu.. regarding the jack of my computer does not see the microphone.  how to do it.
[11:11] <OerHeks> danzizi, nope, wrong channel
[11:11] <bhikkhusubhuti> I loaded the latest bios (using windows)
[11:11] <OerHeks> !bug | bhikkhusubhuti
[11:12] <bhikkhusubhuti> I do not know what package to do this though
[11:12] <OerHeks> I think you need to file the bug against the alsa package
[11:12] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, what's up??
[11:13] <tayler6000> well I did everything he told me to but he said bb in 20
[11:13] <bhikkhusubhuti> that sounds right.. I tried hdajackretask and that did not work.. but it is using alsa.. if I type lscpi  it says I have an intell card.. I know it is a realtek card
[11:13] <bhikkhusubhuti> because windows uses realtek driver
[11:13] <tayler6000> I asume the next step is putting everything in the temp boot into the real one but dont know how to mount it
[11:14] <tayler6000> I can just restart on usb and do it that way but thats about it
[11:14] <OerHeks> bhikkhusubhuti, during the bug procedure, you will be asked to add system info, accept that
[11:14] <cfhowlett> i'm not up on the procedure alky recommended so ... best wait
[11:15] <bhikkhusubhuti> sorry hdajackretask shows realtekALC255
[11:15] <tayler6000> but its 3 15 in the morning...
[11:15] <Eightynine> Hi. I have no sound. My system doesn't detect HDMI output.
[11:15] <nubcake> how do i allow access from a class-c network to mysql running on ubuntu 16.04.1 x64 ?
[11:15] <fracklen> Hi alknowing people! :) After upgrading to 16.04, disks mounted by udev (apart from root partition) are hidden in 'df' when run by another user. How can I allow another user to detect the disks?
[11:15] <LinuxNovice> hi, I needed some help. I tried to open some pdf files in Ubuntu and was not able to because it is locked. But, the same file opens in Sparky Linux. What could be the reason for it?
[11:15] <cfhowlett> your time, maybe.  it's only 8:15 PM here in Tokyo
[11:16] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, what app did you use to open them in Sparky
[11:16] <ppf_> LinuxNovice: "locked"?
[11:17] <chitteti> Hi, firefox crashing in ubuntu 16.04 s390x, how do i resolve this issue or is there other bwosers that supports ubuntu 16.04
[11:17] <bhikkhusubhuti> one more question..  I can disable pulseaudio.. but how to make alsa work.. ?  I get no sound otherwise (ubuntu gnome 16.10)
[11:17] <LinuxNovice> it asks for the password in Ubuntu. But, in Sparky Linux it doesn't have any problem.
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !browser | chitteti
[11:18] <LinuxNovice> cfhowlett, I think it is qpdf reader.
[11:18] <LinuxNovice> the default pdf reader in Ubuntu can
[11:18] <tayler6000> cfhowlett, you're from Tokyo?!
[11:18] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, can ...?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, in not from
[11:19] <LinuxNovice> the default pdf reader in Ubuntu can't open the file.
[11:19] <LinuxNovice> sorry for that
[11:19] <tayler6000> Oh you just live there]
[11:19] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, point being ... ubuntu is global so ... wait for alky?
[11:19] <chitteti> ubottu, are these browsers support to launch the WebSphere portal?
[11:20] <tayler6000> I know that but my point is japan is awesome and you being there makes you more awesome haha
[11:20] <cfhowlett> tayler6000, well - that goes without saying          :)
[11:20] <bhikkhusubhuti> OerHeks, do you think it is not a bug
[11:20] <tayler6000> haha
[11:21] <tayler6000> shusshin wa doko desu ka
[11:21] <LinuxNovice> cfhowlett, any possible solutions?
[11:21] <tayler6000> (also taking japanese in school)
[11:21] <cfhowlett> yeah, let's keep it English here though
[11:21] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, install qpdf in ubuntu and try again
[11:21] <aliassix[m]> Hello
[11:21] <tayler6000> gomen
[11:22] <LinuxNovice> where can I get it from?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, it's in the ubuntu repos.
[11:22] <EriC^^> LinuxNovice: i think it's somewhere in the universe
[11:22] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[11:22] <EriC^^> the universe repo
[11:23] <nubcake> i put % in the host field for a user in the mysql.user table, yet it doesn't let me connect from another computer in the same lan, what am i doing  wrong?
[11:23] <prob> hey everyone
[11:23] <LinuxNovice> can I install it through synaptic package manager?
[11:23] <alkisg> tayler6000: everything ok?
[11:24]  * alkisg didn't read the logs...
[11:24] <tayler6000> yep
[11:24] <tayler6000> just waitin
[11:24] <tayler6000> for you that is
[11:24] <tayler6000> your script finished ages ago
[11:24] <alkisg> tayler6000: ok, mkdir /root/boot; cd /boot; mv * /root/boot
[11:24] <tayler6000> but it only left the newest version in the boot not the one I'm running
[11:24] <alkisg> tayler6000: this will move the "temp" boot folder to /root/boot
[11:25] <alkisg> tayler6000: then, sudo mount /boot, will mount your normal one
[11:25] <tayler6000> alkisg I already moved it to /backup/untitled
[11:25] <alkisg> tayler6000: at that point you can move the missing stuff. In the end, also run this: sudo update-initramfs -u; sudo upgrade-grub
[11:25] <alkisg> tayler6000: after this, you should be able to reboot normally and run purge-kernels again so that you only keep the last one
[11:26] <prob> i have deleted ubuntu   16.04   to install lubuntu 16.10 but    grub-pc did not install and  secure boos is disable
[11:27] <prob> how to update  lubuntu 16.10 by live cd  for examle sudo chroot /mnt   apt update    but it does not work    anyone can help  ?
[11:28] <LinuxNovice> guys, not able to open the pdf file with qpdf also.
[11:29] <prob> i fucked all ubutnu  developer with this   version of
[11:29] <cfhowlett> prob, zero profanity is tolerated in this channel.  adjust yourself.
[11:30] <dikiaap> LinuxNovice:  evince too?
[11:30] <tayler6000> alski
[11:30] <tayler6000> upgrade-grup: command not found
[11:30] <alkisg> tayler6000: alk+tab autocompletes the name so that you get it correctly :)
[11:30] <bhikkhusubhuti> I filed a bug to alsa-base saw something similar and subscribed to that bug.  I hope they fix it.  I guess I need to get upstream now.. I hate doing that almost as much as upgrading the bios
[11:30] <LinuxNovice> dikiaap, I have tried that too.
[11:31] <alkisg> tayler6000: it's b, not p. grub.
[11:31] <tayler6000> I copied and pasted mate
[11:31] <alkisg> tayler6000: well, see above
[11:31] <alkisg> (01:25:31 μμ) alkisg: tayler6000: at that point you can move the missing stuff. In the end, also run this: sudo update-initramfs -u; sudo upgrade-grub
[11:31] <alkisg> It says b there
[11:32] <tayler6000> sudo: upgrade-grub: command not found
[11:32] <bhikkhusubhuti> where is gnome xchat for 16.10?  I cannot find it
[11:32] <tayler6000> oh I just typed it worng in here haha
[11:32] <cfhowlett> update-grub iirc
[11:32] <alkisg> cfhowlett +1
[11:32] <bhikkhusubhuti> hexchat is better than polari but colors and notify really is bad
[11:32] <alkisg> tayler6000: what cfhowlett said
[11:32] <cfhowlett> bhikkhusubhuti, cause xchat was discontinued, like 6 years ago.  use hexchat
[11:33] <bhikkhusubhuti> I am using hexchat.. cannot get colors or notifications to work.. I can barely read your message
[11:33] <tayler6000> update-grub iirc?
[11:33] <alkisg> yes
[11:33] <cfhowlett> no
[11:33] <bhikkhusubhuti> can see only 2% of the ok cancel buttons on prefs
[11:33] <tayler6000> ok it says done
[11:33] <cfhowlett> iirc = If I Recall Correctly.  not part of the sudo command
[11:33] <tayler6000> oh
[11:33] <alkisg> tayler6000: ls -lha /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:33] <tayler6000> well it worked anyway
[11:33] <alkisg> And, uname -r
[11:34] <bhikkhusubhuti> cfhowlett, gnome-xchat is different .. quite modern
[11:34] <tayler6000> http://termbin.com/4aed
[11:34] <tayler6000> http://termbin.com/xzxx
[11:34] <alkisg> tayler6000: looks ok, try rebooting. /me is off, later!
[11:34] <tayler6000> bye
[11:35] <tayler6000> thank you for everything
[11:35] <alkisg> np
[11:35] <cfhowlett> bhikkhusubhuti, if you say so.  last word I got is https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[11:36] <sucode_>
[11:36] <bhikkhusubhuti> cfhowlett, anything better than x chat?  I like the colors of polari .. but it does not sign me in automatically like hex
[11:36] <bhikkhusubhuti> therefore cannot get into this group
[11:36] <LinuxNovice> what is the difference between debian and ubuntu? which one is better for a beginner? I am new to Linux?
[11:37] <sucode_> i need one help
[11:38] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, not the place for that discussion.  ask in ##linux or read the wikipedia articles for bogth
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !help | sucode_
[11:39] <cfhowlett> I've been quite happy with hexchat and have not tested any other clients, bhikkhusubhuti
[11:39] <sucode_> i fork a repo on github; made commits locally and push it but unable to saw that changes on github page
[11:39] <dogadailo2012> hello i from Ukraine
[11:41] <OerHeks> sucode_, maybe #github is a better channel to ask?
[11:41] <sucode_> ok
[11:42] <bhikkhusubhuti>  ok.. on the prefs.. is the ok on the left or right.. I cannot see the buttons
[11:46] <Catametrictonic> Hey would anyone know why when using SCP to copy files over a local 100Mb network with little traffic the copies start off at close to 100Mb and subsequent files being copied transfer at <8Mb?
[11:47] <Ben64> slow drive, slow router, slow cpu, combination of those, something completely different
[11:47] <theblazehen> Catametrictonic MB or Mb?  I've accepted that long ago.
[11:54] <OerHeks> oh, with 'if' you can put Paris in an empty winebottle
[11:54] <nubcake> tried to set root's host to % didn't help
[11:54] <Ben64> watch the language here Catametrictonic
[11:54] <OerHeks> Catametrictonic, please watch your language, keep the channel family friendly, thanks
[11:54] <Catametrictonic> see
[11:54] <Ben64> scp is just as dangerous as rsync
[11:54] <nubcake> hashed the bind = <IP_ADDRESS> so it's not used
[11:54] <theblazehen> Catametrictonic I've always experienced that. If you're taking the number scp gives, 8 MB/s is 64 mbit/s which isn't the best over ethernet but alright for wifi
[11:54] <nubcake> still cannot connect (restarted mysql, restarted the whole box)
[11:55] <Ben64> nubcake: is it listening on the right ip
[11:56] <theblazehen> Catametrictonic sometimes scp feels like https://xkcd.com/612/
[11:56] <Catametrictonic> theblazehen, no, I've checked the speed with bmon on both ends. It's definitely slow and not a calculation issue. I've seen it work well. But lately it's doing this  first file fast, next files slow. It's probably what Ben64 said, a cache or memory issue. But I wouldn't know how to fix that.
[11:57] <Catametrictonic> It's not that I just started using SCP. I've been using it for years with no weird issue like this.
[11:57] <Ben64> if rsync goes fast, then use it
[11:57] <Exterminador> guys, any idea about this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23623550/ -> Xubuntu x64
[11:57] <Catametrictonic> I am
[11:57] <agent_white> theblazehen: You have to tease a little bit. That's hardball.
[11:57] <agent_white> 'scp, man of mystery'
[11:58] <theblazehen> Catametrictonic Alright. Install pv locally then `ssh theserver cat /dev/zero | pv >/dev/null` to see what you get
[11:58] <OerHeks> Exterminador, 'All packages are up to date." duhhh
[11:58] <agent_white> you should re-route scp to rsync anyway due to obvious benefits
[11:58] <Exterminador> OerHeks, but the fail on AppStream
[11:59] <theblazehen> If there's many files I like to pipe tar over ssh
[11:59] <Exterminador> AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors.
[11:59] <theblazehen> Avoids a round trip for each file
[11:59] <Catametrictonic> theblazehen, will have to try that later. I'm copying the files I need with rsync presently. Was hoping someone would say "Oh yeah man...I've had that problem too....here's what you do...."...you know the quick fix.
[12:00] <OerHeks> Exterminador, oh ignore it, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/854168/how-i-can-fix-appstream-cache-update-completed-but-some-metadata-was-ignored-d
[12:00] <theblazehen> Catametrictonic yeah. Seems interesting that rsync is fine. Is it a lot of small files or few large files?
[12:00] <OerHeks> don't enable backports, at least i would not
[12:00] <Catametrictonic> theblazehen, large files
[12:01] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1644498
[12:01] <theblazehen> Catametrictonic hmm, alright. No idea then. Sorry
[12:01] <fracklen> I have a problem... When new disks (internal) are added, basic users can't see them (using mount or df). This was working fine in 14.04. How can I configure to let normal users see disks in 'mount' and 'df' ?
[12:02] <theblazehen> fracklen there should be a disk group that you can add users to iirc
[12:02] <theblazehen> Wait, _see_ them? That's new..
[12:03] <fracklen> yep - new to me as well... 'sudo df' has very different view than 'df'
[12:03] <EriC^^> mount just displays /etc/mtab
[12:04] <EriC^^> it works here on 16.04, normal user can read mount and df
[12:04] <EriC^^> fracklen: which ubuntu?
[12:04] <Catametrictonic> theblazehen, I've come to accept that I generally don't ask the easy to answer questions when I come here.....that's a good thing I believe. But, I keep trying because you never know.
[12:04] <fracklen> EriC^^: /etc/mtab is a symlink to /proc/mounts - so something in the proc subsystem has been changed
[12:04] <fracklen> 16.04
[12:04] <EriC^^> is it a vps image?
[12:04] <Catametrictonic> theblazehen, what I'd really like to know is how you know to do the ssh to cat the pipe through pv to null shit.....
[12:04] <EriC^^> or the iso downloaded from the site?
[12:04] <fracklen> no
[12:05] <fracklen> iso
[12:05] <fracklen> (server ofc)
[12:05] <EriC^^> what happens when you type mount or df
[12:05] <Exterminador> OerHeks, fixed! thanks
[12:06] <fracklen> it displays root and tmpfs's
[12:06] <theblazehen> fracklen `strace mount | nc termbin.com 9999` as normal user
[12:07] <EriC^^> fracklen: does lsblk list the others?
[12:07] <theblazehen> Or `strace mount >/dev/tcp/termbin.com/9999` if you don't have netcat
[12:08] <theblazehen> Sorry, `strace mount &>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999` to grab strace output
[12:10] <hidir> hi everybody
[12:11] <kankusht> good morning
[12:11] <kankusht> I need to ask something
[12:12] <kankusht> How can I cancel task in queue with my printer?
[12:12] <kankusht> I use Ubuntu bythe way
[12:15] <NeoTheThird[m]> Open your dash, search for "Printers" to open the utility
[12:15] <NeoTheThird[m]> then right click a printer
[12:16] <NeoTheThird[m]> and select the last element "View Print Queue"
[12:16] <NeoTheThird[m]> then select a job and klick cancel
[12:16] <NeoTheThird[m]> the red x in a circel
[12:17] <kankusht> Thank you very much, you're awesome :D
[12:17] <NeoTheThird[m]> why thank you :)
[12:19] <rizonz> does someone know what the size of the 14.04 and 16.04 mirrors are ?
[12:23] <fracklen> theblazehen & Eric^^: thanks for the tip - strace revealed that the mount point was under a directory which had 0700 root.root
[12:24] <fracklen> so mount could see it, but 'df' got "Permission denied"
[12:24] <theblazehen> fracklen glad you solved it
[12:25] <BluesKaj> rizonz, mirrors, don't you mean iso/images?
[12:31] <rizonz> BluesKaj: no mirror
[12:32] <EriC^^> fracklen: aha great
[12:32] <EriC^^> try strace on df
[12:33] <EriC^^> fracklen: seems to read from /proc/self/mountinfo
[12:33] <ppf_> i've chrooted into another ubuntu installation on another drive. now i can't unmount it:
[12:33] <ppf_> umount: /mnt/usb/sys/fs/cgroup/systemd: target is busy
[12:33] <EriC^^> ppf_: try umount with -R
[12:33] <rommel> ppf cd out if your in it and try umount -lR /mnt/whatever
[12:34] <EriC^^> no, without -l
[12:34] <ppf_> yeah, did  that
[12:35] <ppf_> the process which keeps the folder busy is init
[12:37] <ppf_> any way to force it to unload this path?
[12:39] <EriC^^> try with -f
[12:39] <EriC^^> -l will pretend it unloaded it when it really didn't
[12:39] <ppf_> --force isn't forceful enough
[12:39] <ppf_> i know, i'd prefer to avoid that
[12:40] <EriC^^> what does lsof show?
[12:40] <ppf_> nothing
[12:41] <ppf_> fuser -u says: /mnt/usb/sys/fs/cgroup/systemd:     1(root)
[12:44] <ppf_> mh, wait that's the wrong query.
[12:46] <ppf_><EMAIL_ADDRESS> 2441
[12:46] <ppf_> that's the open file
[12:46] <ppf_> and 2441 is my user's systemd
[12:48] <bricked> Hi, I tried repairing a corrupted hard drive with bad superblock, by restoring superblock from backup (mount -sb, then fsck -b). Nothing worked. Are there ways to recover data if superblock is still bad ?
[12:49] <EriC^^> !datarecovery | bricked
[12:49] <EriC^^> bricked: there's photorec and testdisk ( sudo apt-get install testdisk )
[12:49] <EriC^^> !recover | bricked
[12:51] <bricked> EriC^^: I read that page a couple of times. There's a reason I'm asking people and not google.
[12:52] <ikonia> bricked: have you tried any of the techniques in that page ?
[12:52] <EriC^^> bricked: yeah that page has a good source of info
[12:57] <mascot66991> Hi! Can anyone tell me what is wrong with my dpkg ?
[12:57] <mascot66991> http://dpaste.com/3F7BETN
[13:04] <yocs0000> mascot66991: are you connected to the internet?
[13:04] <mascot66991> @yocs0000 yes I am
[13:04] <GrandPa-G> I would like a personal recommendation for a free backup/restore package that can be setup to run unattended. Not much data, but want to get system changes as well. Must be managed via command line (ssh).
[13:04] <GrandPa-G> There are plenty of google answers, but would like a real person's idea.
[13:05] <yocs0000> try this: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:05] <yocs0000> mascot66991:
[13:06] <mascot66991> yocs0000: I tried that but still http://dpaste.com/2RSQ81B
[13:08] <ppf_> is there a way to make systemd give up a user slice it holds inside and rbind-ed /sys?
[13:12] <yocs0000> mascot66991: try sudo apt-get clean
[13:13] <mascot66991> yocs0000: Done but still  sudo dpkg --configure -a gives same error
[13:13] <yocs0000> and then restart the process .... can you explain how did you get where you are?
[13:13] <yocs0000> mascot66991: what did you try to do?
[13:13] <OerHeks> GrandPa-G, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/backup-shellscripts.html
[13:14] <mbrc> #Anime-Koi
[13:15] <OerHeks> GrandPa-G, and a good start with comparison list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[13:15] <ppf> oh well, i just rebooted ...
[13:17] <mascot66991> yocs0000: I was trying to install php7.0-soap and once I installed that I added extension=php_soap.dll which once I ran my script using SoapClient gave error so I reached back of instalation of php-soap that it said php was not properly installed so I tried installing php using
[13:17] <mascot66991> http://askubuntu.com/questions/803430/getting-errors-while-installing-php-on-ubuntu16-04/803436#803436 but it did not help
[13:18] <mascot66991> then i noticed that even installing anything did not work
[13:18] <ppf> okay, now let's talk about my actual problem: i've dd'ed a vbox image of ubuntu onto un usb stick. but i can't get it to boot. kernel panics with 'unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)'
[13:26] <yocs0000> mascot66991: unfortunately I have to go .... but can I suggest you remove all of the newly installed packages using "sudo apt purge" and then start from scratch?
[13:27] <mascot66991> Its okay I am asking at askubuntu hopefully will get a solution.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/860228/unable-to-configure-dpkg
[13:29] <rcw2> hi using u16 and placed my harddrive into another machine temporarily.  I know ideally I'd want to install ubuntu over for the new machine but there are time constraints opposing that.  The audio works with the laptop but when i plug headphones in they dont trigger the select an audio function prompt nor work whatsoever... the sound continues from the laptop speakers.  is there a quick fix for this?
[13:36] <romain__> hello guys
[13:44] <losacii> hi
[13:46] <ad0uc> gets 'metadata ignored' on update
[13:59] <quup> why isn't chromium getting security updates in ubuntu 16.10?
[14:03] <ad0uc> Get:14 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [208 B]
[14:03] <ad0uc> Get:15 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [212 B]
[14:03] <ad0uc> Get:16 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [212 B]
[14:03] <ad0uc> Get:17 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [68.1 kB]
[14:03] <ad0uc> Get:18 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons [43.0 kB]
[14:11] <user700> v
[14:28] <Sandeep_dubey> checking how such it works !
[14:29] <sand1122> clear
[14:34]  * MrTuxHdb is listening to Hanggai - Baifang (Back to You)
[14:34] <Pici> MrTuxHdb: please disable that here, or part the channel.
[14:36] <sruli> i have a issue with a udev rule, its a simple rule to run when a particular usb device is connected/disconnected, for some reason it only works when i connect it "ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="0040", RUN+="path/to/sh" the exact smae line with "remove" instead of "add" does not work, anyone have any idea why?
[14:37] <uskerine> hi, I am new into ubuntu 14.04, not sure if there was something that changed, but what should I do to auto-install required package dependencies?
[14:37] <uskerine> I have tried to do apt-get install mypackage but it keeps raising erros due to unmet dependencies
[14:37] <uskerine> thanks
[14:38] <Pici> sruli: you may want to take a look at this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/udev-not-doing-remove-rules-841733/
[14:38] <sruli> uskerine: try "sudo apt install -f"
[14:38] <Pici> uskerine: what package are you installing? is it from a PPA?
[14:38] <xangua> uskerine: and what are you trying to install?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> uskerine,  have you updated and upgraded all your packages first?
[14:39] <uskerine> i did apt-get update
[14:39] <uskerine> what is the difference between update and upgrade
[14:39] <uskerine> ?
[14:39] <uskerine> what apt install -f is actually doing?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> us you upgrade after updating
[14:39] <BluesKaj> uskerine,^
[14:40] <uskerine> does it move from LTS to something different?
[14:40] <Pici> uskerine: update merely refreshes the list of available packages, but doesn't actually install anything.
[14:40] <uskerine> wow
[14:40] <uskerine> ok thanks
[14:40] <sruli> Pici: thats link seems to be in the right direction, thanks
[14:40] <BluesKaj> uskerine, updating merely sets up the packages that need to be upgraded
[14:50] <uskerine> where are /etc/init.d startup scripts in ubuntu 14?
[14:51] <ppf> in /etc/init.d/?
[14:54] <odfhw5bv9s> Hi everyone!
[14:54] <pavan_> i have R305 Finger print module
[14:55] <pavan_> i want to store my finger in my local directory in bmp formt
[14:57] <odfhw5bv9s> I have connected a webcam to my PC, but the picture is red.
[14:57] <odfhw5bv9s> 045e:00f5 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-3000
[14:57] <odfhw5bv9s> Wikis say it uses gspca drivers and that I need LD_PRELOAD some libs. I have done that, but it doesn't work, the picture is still red.
[15:01] <ppf> pavan_: that's most likely not how the reader works
[15:03] <uio> Hi, trying to use LaTeX editor with gedit and am having some issues. Namely I installed gedit-latex-plugin but all I get is the highlighting functionality of LaTeX without the ability to compile, any suggestions ?
[15:18] <Omnipotent> is it possible to install Ubuntu 16.04 UEFI with GPT partitioning with Rufus tool?
[15:19] <Omnipotent> I had windows 10 UEFI installed on my laptop, and when I installed Ubuntu 16.04 with GPT partition and UEFI selected in Rufus, I ended up with loading windows 10 only, no bootloader seems to be installed
[15:19] <Omnipotent> when I enabled my legacy mode, grub showed up
[15:19] <Omnipotent> why didn't my install end up being UEFI?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Omnipotent, does legacy mode/drubh show your windows entry and allow you to boot it?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> legacy mode/grub
[15:24] <arrrghhh> hey all, curious about setting up a USB key for 'all' the downloads.  I'm going to be updating a couple of machines from 14.04 to 16.04, and the internet access is atrocious.  I'd like to pre-download as much in the way of updates as I can so this doesn't take 3 days... I found AptGet/Offline and apt-medium but I'm a bit lost on the 'best' way for me...
[15:24] <Omnipotent> BluesKaj, I managed to nuke my windows an ubuntu while playing with it
[15:25] <Omnipotent> now I installed ubuntu again after again using Rufus.. with GPT partitioning enabled
[15:25] <Omnipotent> and ended up installing legacy once more
[15:25] <arrrghhh> so I'll have the latest 16.04.1 or whatever version they are up to now, but there's usually a slew of updates past that as well...
[15:25] <Omnipotent> now I do not have windows, So I do not know if it shows windows or not
[15:25] <Omnipotent> BluesKaj, I had legacy mode completely disabled, so I am sure my flash drive booted into UEFI when installing
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Omnipotent, run sudo os-prober , then sudo update-grub
[15:27] <gde33> not sure where this question belongs: I've switched the theme, now the curved part of the firefox focused tab is the old color (left and right of it)
[15:27] <nicomachus> so (I think) I completely removed MATE from my system here, but I'm still getting this MATE splash screen and DM: http://i.imgur.com/ZOdf0n7.jpg         http://i.imgur.com/11Xv6Bm.jpg
[15:28] <Omnipotent> BluesKaj, currently booted to Legacy, so shows 2 Found entries
[15:28] <Omnipotent> Disabling legacy shows "No device found on HDD" so can't go into Ubuntu at all.
[15:28] <Omnipotent> :(
[15:29] <BluesKaj> I use legacy mode , doen't nother me at all , UEFI is just new BIOS
[15:30] <Omnipotent> BluesKaj, yeah but why wouldn't it install on UEFI
[15:31] <BluesKaj> dunno , in any case if you can boot windows too then it doen't matter
[15:31] <BluesKaj> doesn't
[15:34] <Omnipotent> BluesKaj, yeah well I suppose.
[15:34] <Omnipotent> UEFI had extremely fast boot times though
[15:35] <Omnipotent> for windows
[15:35] <Omnipotent> it's like hitting button and starting to work within 4 seconds
[15:35] <gstaniak> In the preseed repos settings (not the mirror ones), what is the location of the keys I need for the unattended install? What I mean is, if the repo's URL is http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/, is the key for "apt-setup/local0/key" the one located at http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/Release.gpg?
[15:36] <uio> Hi trying to install extra LaTeX packages.  I installed texlive with apt-get and then tried tlmgr install amsmath but got the message cannot setup TLPDB in /home/user/texmf at /usr/bin/tlmgr line 5604. Any thoughts?
[15:36] <phos1> Hi! For some reason when I try to load a page on my ubuntu server, I get an internal server error. i can’t find any error logs or messages anywhere. Memory etc seems fine, so i really need error messages..
[15:38] <nacc> phos1: where are you looking for logs? all pages fail to load (even the one that is the root document)?
[15:38] <sruli> Omnipotent: i believe the reason for the fast boot with win+uefi is the system goes into a type of hibernation.. in win power settings the is an option to disbale fast boot, if i remember correctly with that option enabled you cannot run dualboot
[15:38] <phos1> nacc: Front end pages load fine, it’s just some admin functions fail (CMS). I am looking in var/log/apache2
[15:39] <nacc> uio: amsmath ships with texlive-latex-base, no?
[15:40] <nacc> phos1: is the CMS its own application (i.e. apache is just basically serving as a proxy), or just documents served by apache? are you getting a 404?
[15:40] <uio> nacc: I don't think so, but I'm sure I'll have to add other packages if not that one..
[15:41] <nacc> uio: `apt-cache search amsmath` implies that it is
[15:41] <nacc> uio: well tht and `apt-cache show amsmath`
[15:41] <phos1> nacc: No, it’s just drupal, a website CMS. It just comes up on the screen and says: An internal server error occurred. Please try again later.
[15:41] <nacc> phos1: which version of ubuntu?
[15:41] <phos1>  14.04.5 LTS
[15:41] <nacc> phos1: and has it ever worked?
[15:42] <phos1> Not that I have ever seen
[15:42] <nacc> phos1: drupal7 from the archives?
[15:42] <bmullan> join #arctica
[15:43] <phos1> nacc: No, just installed as web files. It’s like it’s out of memory but i odn’t think it is. I can’t tell without error message/ logs though
[15:44] <nacc> phos1: are you sure it's properly configured, etc.? Im fairly sure the package works and doing it on your own is harder to support (and not really an ubuntu issue potentially)
[15:45] <phos1> The site works fine on my server, and I just cloned it to this one, so I know it’s a configuration issue on this server I just can’t figure out what it is. I have no idea how to turn on error messages
[15:46] <nacc> phos1: i'm guessing you don't have php installed or configured, maybe (so the php engine is failing to start?)
[15:46] <phos1> nacc: It loads most of the php pages, just some of the bigger things are crashing
[15:51] <sruli> is there a way to see the date of package release in "apt list"
[15:53] <DomeMaster> hello
[15:53] <DomeMaster> upgraded to 16.04, now cant boot up. Loading screen keeps going with screen tearing. HP Laptop with some kind of AMD graphics card
[15:53] <DomeMaster> anything I can do?
[15:53] <nicomachus> sruli: try apt-cache show <package>
[15:54] <thingything> How can I make a folder "unwritable"? Like you (including yourself) can only read files, but not modify, delete or adding new files to the folder/existing files. How do I do that via CLI/Bash?
[15:54] <sruli> nicomachus: forgot to specify, want to look at dates of --upgradable
[15:54] <nicomachus> sruli: eh, i don't think that does it.
[15:55] <BlauskaerM> thingything: Just remove the write permisson from everyone?
[15:55] <sruli> nicomachus: how do i just download upgradeable without installing?
[15:55] <BlauskaerM> chmod -w foder
[15:55] <rcw2> hi using u16 and placed my harddrive into another machine temporarily.  I know ideally I'd want to install ubuntu over for the new machine but there are time constraints opposing that.  The audio works with the laptop but when i plug headphones in they dont trigger the select an audio function prompt nor work whatsoever... the sound continues from the laptop speakers.  is there a quick fix for this?
[15:56] <Omnipotent> sruli, yeah tried thaqt
[15:56] <thingything> BlauskaerM: Ok thanks, I'll try
[15:56] <Omnipotent> still didn't work, somehow grub was only available in case of legacy
[15:56] <Omnipotent> even though I installed it wit UEFI enabled
[15:56] <DomeMaster> any help at all?
[15:57] <sruli> thingything: you might want to make it immutable, "sudo chattr +i /path/to/file" in this case even root cannot write/delete file
[15:57] <zykotick9> thingything: i'd change the owner/group to root with "sudo chown -R root:root /path/to/folder" then change so group and other have rx on the folder "sudo chmod go=rx /path/to/folder" then i'd go into the folder and change all the files to have read only "sudo chmod go=r *"
[15:57] <sruli> Omnipotent: have u verified you installation media is eufi ?
[15:57] <zykotick9> thingything: sruli might have a better suggestion!
[15:58] <Omnipotent> sruli, yep, I created installation media using Rufus GPT UEFI option, kept my legacy boot function off from BIOS settings
[15:58] <Omnipotent> flash drive booted I installed
[15:58] <Omnipotent> after which, The Grub was not seen anywhere
[15:59] <Omnipotent> until I switched to Legacy
[16:00] <sruli> Omnipotent: are you booted into ubuntu now?
[16:00] <Omnipotent> Yes, Using legacy
[16:00] <Omnipotent> as if I turn the UEFI on, it doesn't detect Ubuntu
[16:00] <BlauskaerM> sruli: Nice tip, didnt know about chattr
[16:00] <BlauskaerM> Is that included in the standard package?
[16:00] <sruli> Omnipotent: paste output of lsblk to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:01] <sruli> BlauskaerM: i learnt it the hard way... deleted a directory of backing files for my VM's with a minor mistake in a bash script
[16:01] <Omnipotent> wait a sec, I am in Windows on another machine atm, let me just do that there
[16:01] <Omnipotent> don't have IRC client installed on Ubuntu yet
[16:02] <Omnipotent> because I am not sure whether I would need to reinstall all this again
[16:02] <sruli> Omnipotent: paste it to paste.ubuntu.com and post link here
[16:03] <sruli> BlauskaerM: i believe its part of every linux disro.. didnt check but would be surprised if it not in ubuntu mini
[16:04] <gstaniak> phos1: place a php file with only <?php phpinfo(); ?> inside it in the document root and try to open it.
[16:04] <Omnipotent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23624355
[16:04] <BlauskaerM> sruli: Will chekck it out :)
[16:04] <Omnipotent> sruli,
[16:05] <phos1> gstaniak: Yup that loads up fine
[16:05] <gstaniak> phos1: so the server config is basically ok, it's the drupal code that makes it choke
[16:05] <sruli> Omnipotent: have u installed as a dualboot?
[16:05] <phos1> Somewhere yes, but I am not getting any error messages which is what i’m trying to fix
[16:06] <Omnipotent> sruli, not at the moment, I screwed up my windows 10 installation earlier, so not anymore, I fresh installed Ubuntu 16.04
[16:06] <gstaniak> phos1: nothing in the apache error log?
[16:06] <Omnipotent> the main problem now is that, if I disable legacy, UEFI doesn't show up.
[16:06] <Omnipotent> err
[16:06] <phos1> gstaniak: Correct, totally empty
[16:06] <Omnipotent> if I disable legacy, Grub doesn't show up
[16:06] <phos1> I just get “Internal server error” running some tasks
[16:07] <Omnipotent> and hence ubuntu doesn't load, "No bootable device"
[16:07] <nicomachus> so (I think) I completely removed MATE from my system here, but I'm still getting this MATE splash screen and DM: http://i.imgur.com/ZOdf0n7.jpg         http://i.imgur.com/11Xv6Bm.jpg
[16:07] <sruli> Omnipotent: something is wrong there, i only see /boot/efi partition and no /boot partition, are you planning to have a dualboot on this machine?
[16:07] <Omnipotent> yes later on, currently there is only ubuntu installed
[16:08] <gstaniak> phos1: you could try running apache in the foreground (http://zroger.com/blog/apache-in-the-foreground/), perhaps it will print something in the terminal window
[16:08] <Omnipotent> Should I have made a /boot partition? I selected "something else" when installing ubuntu as fresh, since I didn't had Windows anymore on my machine there was no option on "along side windows"
[16:08] <Omnipotent> I selected something else and made mount points /   efi and swap and installed ubuntu, should I have not done that?
[16:09] <sruli> Omnipotent: i dont use windows but my only experience with dual install is having windows installed first, are u planning an encrypted install of ubuntu?
[16:09] <Omnipotent> I don't mind it being encrypted or not.. it's not a serious issue.
[16:10] <Omnipotent> sruli, I had windows installed first, but I screwed it up while fixing grub.
[16:10] <sruli> Omnipotent: instructions are completly different.. u have to make your choice before u start... which way are u going?
[16:10] <Omnipotent> now I reformatted and installed ubuntu first.
[16:10] <Omnipotent> whichever way is simpler...
[16:10] <Omnipotent> encrypted install of ubuntu means "Encryption of my home folder" ?
[16:11] <Omnipotent> the checkbox that we select at time of install?
[16:11] <sruli> no, encryption of /root partition, encryption of home folder is a simple checkbox as you saw
[16:11] <Omnipotent> yeah that's enough for me
[16:11] <Omnipotent> I don't need / encrypted
[16:15] <DomeMaster> every upgrade of Ubuntu fails, yet you're meant to upgrade to keep your machine secure
[16:16] <sruli> Omnipotent: in your place i would start with installing windows first (if that what u want as an end result) just install it on the whole hard drive then in disk management shrink it (if it doesnt allow you to shirnk enough follow this guide http://tinyurl.com/z55z6or )
[16:17] <sruli> Omnipotent: i never tried a non encrypted install so i only ever used manual partitioning, but i beleive if you choose to "install alongside windowss" and if it asks where to install bootloader you should choose the actual name of the hard drive
[16:23] <phos1> gstaniak: It’s a script that goes through and updates content, it only takes about 5 seconds to run. It runs fine on one server, but not this one. I am sure it will be a php.ini setting but without errors I have no idea what one
[16:24] <Guest79929> Hello I have a problem, I want to use kdevelop 5 development c However, the build correct click execute when there is no response
[16:24] <gstaniak> phos1: can't you run it with a -DFORGROUNDed apache to see what's printed in the console?
[16:26] <Guest79929> Click the execute window without any output
[16:27] <phos1> gstaniak: So I did http://koansys.com/news/run-apache-in-the-forground-on-ubuntu and got AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[16:27] <phos1> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[16:28] <phos1> That’s the path used everywhere for writting error logs
[16:28] <phos1> So if that path is undefined it wouldn’t know where to put the error logs
[16:31] <gstaniak> phos1: i think it has some hardcoded defaults. what happens if you comment out that line?
[16:33] <phos1> http://pastebin.com/hVWSQxXD
[16:33] <phos1> That’s the full string, I commented that out and I get bad user name now
[16:34] <nacc> phos1: it seems like whateer you are doing is not sourcing envvars?
[16:35] <phos1> nacc: That command i ran is suppose to make it run in forgroud, so I’m not sure if it’s just that command or a server issue.
[16:35] <phos1> If it’s a server issue it would explain why I get no error logs
[16:35] <phos1> but I know nothing about apache in forhtoupd or envvars..
[16:36] <nacc> phos1: does your server have said file (/etc/apache2/envvars)?
[16:36] <phos1> yes
[16:36] <LinuxNovice> hi, could anybody here tell me which is more lightweight and more suitable for old desktops Mate or XFCE?
[16:36] <nacc> phos1: can you see if on your system taht file contains the strings the above log is complaining about?
[16:37] <phos1> nacc: Yes it does
[16:37] <LinuxNovice> I am new to Linux and I need some help in choosing a suitable DE for my old laptop.
[16:38] <nacc> phos1: ok, i would suggest doing this, instead of the suggested command: `sudo -s -H (switch to root with password)`. In that shell, run: `. /etc/apache2/envvars; apache2 -X`
[16:38] <nacc> phos1: and then let us konw if it still complains
[16:39] <Southern_Gentlem> LinuxNovice,  grab lives ofdifferent Desktop environments but them up on usbkeys and try them
[16:39] <koroso> ● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
[16:39] <koroso>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
[16:39] <koroso>    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since mar. 2016-12-13 17:27:38 CET; 8min ago
[16:39] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice, lubuntu is more lightweight, xubuntu and mate are equal i guess
[16:39] <Southern_Gentlem> what one perosn may like someone else will not
[16:39] <phos1> http://pastebin.com/aMguLqeP
[16:39] <koroso> someone can help me
[16:40] <nacc> phos1: you're not typig the correct command
[16:40] <Southern_Gentlem> koroso,  i dont think you are running ubuntu
[16:40] <LinuxNovice> I can do that, but, I might feel no difference between them. I want an objective comparison.
[16:40] <nacc> phos1: '. /etc/apache2/envvars'
[16:40] <nacc> phos1: you are sourcing the envvars file so they are defined in the env
[16:40] <nacc> phos1: in your case, you are trying to execute a text file, which does nothing
[16:40] <LinuxNovice> I want to choose between Mate and XFCE.
[16:40] <Southern_Gentlem> LinuxNovice, thats just it comes down to your personal perfernces
[16:40] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice, objective would be you testing both
[16:41] <LinuxNovice> want to know which is more resource intensive.
[16:41] <OerHeks> let us know :-)
[16:41] <Southern_Gentlem> and your machine will tell you that
[16:41] <phos1> nacc: Ah ok, i missed the period, that ran without issues
[16:41] <LinuxNovice> I don't have the means to test them.
[16:41] <Southern_Gentlem> huh??
[16:41] <nacc> phos1: cool
[16:41] <Southern_Gentlem> you dont have a dvd burner or a 2g usbkey?
[16:42] <OerHeks> Southern_Gentlem, he just wants to chat about it
[16:42] <LinuxNovice> I have an old laptop of Intel Celeron M single core processor of 1.5 Ghz and 2 GB RAM.
[16:42] <phos1> nacc: So that doesn’t put me any closer to why I am not getting any errors, only internal server error
[16:42] <Southern_Gentlem> OerHeks,  yes
[16:42] <OerHeks> single core.. lubuntu
[16:42] <OerHeks> don't expect a youtube racemonster
[16:43] <LinuxNovice> OK. Got it. Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
[16:43] <nacc> phos1: now that you're running in the foreground, and then you load the page, you get nothing in the termial
[16:43] <nacc> ?
[16:43] <_030> Hey guys! I'm having some trouble with my graphics card.. Installed the newest nVidia Driver, but I still can't use prime
[16:43] <LinuxNovice> I think only LXDE DE will suit my laptop.
[16:43] <_030> anywhere you could point me? google is not helping
[16:44] <phos1> nacc: I only have  /etc/apache2/envvars; apache2 -X
[16:44] <phos1> httpd (pid 1345) already running, I don’t think it will show anything
[16:45] <LinuxNovice> by the way, which is more lightweight between LXDE and LXQT?
[16:46] <Southern_Gentlem> try them and see
[16:46] <xangua> LinuxNovice: Lubuntu is nice for that old laptop, but if you're trying Linux for the first time xubuntu might be a better choice as it comes with all the features a modern desktop should have
[16:47] <nacc> phos1: well yes, youll need to stop apache first
[16:47] <LinuxNovice> ok. xangua, that's the kind of advice I expected here in this community.
[16:48] <phos1> nacc: Ok that is loading, trying it now
[16:48] <LinuxNovice> for someone who is entirely new to Linux, these issues are quite puzzling.
[16:48] <ubuntu570> Hi, my ubuntu 12.04 , jumps up from minimum to mid-high volume, if i want to access volume control in the panel...., is this a known bug ? any suggestions ?
[16:49] <phos1> nacc: It’s crazy slow this way
[16:49] <nacc> phos1: yes, only one thread
[16:50] <phos1> waiting for things to load / crash
[16:50] <phos1> ok it crashed, and i got no messages
[16:50] <LinuxNovice> I will try Lubuntu.
[16:50] <vfw> nacc: What is phos1 trying to do?
[16:50] <phos1> nacc:It crashed on a page I’ve never had an issue on before
[16:50] <nacc> vfw: debugging a failure to load drupal on a server without error messages
[16:51] <vfw> nacc: phos1 Is apache crashing?
[16:51] <nacc> phos1: 'crash'?
[16:51] <phos1> vfw: My site is giving me internal server error, and i can’t find a log to see why. I’m sure it’s hitting a memory/ post or other limit but i don’t see any errors
[16:51] <vfw> nacc: phos1 systemctl status httpd
[16:51] <phos1> nacc: Just got “An internal server error occurred. Please try again later.”
[16:51] <phos1> But Apache is fine and shows no errors
[16:52] <phos1> This exact site works fine on another server (It’s Centos, with very high resource limits), I just need to figure out what needs changing on this server...
[16:52] <vfw> phos1: nacc Do you see any sort of errors in the output of systemctl status ?
[16:52] <nacc> phos1: do you get anyting in journactl or dmesg (in the case of kills of processes due to memory)
[16:53] <phos1> Sorry I’ve never used any of those commands, just looking up how to use them..
[16:54] <vfw> phos1: nacc What is http://pastebin.com/aMguLqeP ?  (It says "Permission denied")
[16:54] <nacc> vfw: typo
[16:54] <nacc> vfw: attemping to run a file that should be sourced
[16:55] <vfw> Oh ok.  Well has he tested php?
[16:55] <phos1> vfw: I get command not found. systemctl status
[16:55] <phos1> systemctl: command not found
[16:55] <nacc> vfw: oh this is 14.04.5
[16:55] <vfw> phos1: What version of ... Oh ok nacc
[16:55] <vfw> I think 16.04.1 would be better for phos1
[16:55] <phos1> I do have messages to do upgrades, it’s not a production server, I could update?
[16:55] <odfhw5bv9s> I have connected a webcam to my PC, but the picture is red.
[16:55] <odfhw5bv9s> 045e:00f5 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-3000
[16:56] <odfhw5bv9s> Wikis say it uses gspca drivers and that I need LD_PRELOAD some libs. I have done that, but it doesn't work, the picture is still red. How can I fix it?
[16:56] <vfw> nacc: Upgrade to 16.04.1 may solve problems
[16:56] <nacc> i mean it shouldn't strictly be necessary, but it might, yeah
[16:56] <phos1> vfw: Do i just do: New release '16.04.1 LTS' available.Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it. As it says?
[16:57] <vfw> phos1: I would do routine backups first.
[16:57] <phos1> It’s a staging server, so aside from the pain i would go through time wise trying to rebuild it has nothing on it.
[16:57] <phos1> thankfully :)
[17:00] <phos1> vfw: I’ll try the upgrade, hopwfully it sorts it out. It should probably be done either way so is probably a good place to start.
[17:00] <vfw> phos1: Before attempting version upgrade, make sure that last line of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades says, "Prompt=lts"
[17:00] <phos1> vfw: Yes it does
[17:01] <vfw> phos1: Information you will be interested in:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[17:01] <nacc> note you will need a specific version of drupal7 if you switch to xenial, as it only has php7
[17:02] <vfw> phos1: (There is also info about php in the link I just sent you.
[17:02] <phos1> nacc: Does it switch to xenial automatically if I do the upgrade?
[17:03] <nacc> phos1: xenial the release name (16.04)
[17:03] <vfw> phos1: The choice is yours, I'm not saying the only way to fix your problems is to upgrade, but it is what I would do.
[17:03] <vfw> ... If I were you....
[17:03] <_030> So, my nVidia driver works, but my intel dedicated GPU does not. When I first installed Ubuntu a few months ago (had to get rid of it for a while, unfortunately, just got it back now) prime-select worked like a charm - now nvidia-settings says prime is not supported - lspci -nn | grep '\[03'   also only detects my nvidia card, any clue how i could fix this?
[17:04] <iconicschema> Hey my colleague is having the weirdest issue, when using a secondary monitor with his laptop and his mouse cursor is not working properly, rendering on the guest monitor and the clicks register on the primary (except the toolbar)
[17:05] <iconicschema> He’s on 16.04
[17:05] <iconicschema> Anyone have any advice on a direction to troubleshoot?
[17:06] <phos1> vfw: Annoying that only goes to php7, that could cause me site issues…
[17:06] <vfw> phos1: Choice is yours.  You can fix what you have.  It was just a suggestion.
[17:06] <vfw> phos1: ... an option ...
[17:06] <phos1> vfw: If we can fix what I have that would be ideal, but I have no idea what to do next on it
[17:07] <vfw> iconicschema: Fully updated?
[17:07] <iconicschema> Apparently he’s running some updates now
[17:07] <vfw> iconicschema: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:07] <vfw> iconicschema: ...may fix problems...
[17:10] <iconicschema> Okay, thanks vfw.
[17:16] <iconicschema> It’s really weird in the display settings his primary monitor is rendering on top of the secondary display! lol grabbing a screenshot
[17:16] <iconicschema> the behavior is the same
[17:17] <vfw> phos1: So you have a drupal site that doesn't load?
[17:17] <iconicschema> that small portion of the larger display maps the mouse clicks to the smaller display
[17:17] <vfw> phos1: Are you going to try and fix it?  Or upgrade?
[17:17] <phos1> vfw: It loads 95% of the site, some pages / functions just come up with “Internal server Error” I refresh and some of them work after that and some don’t
[17:17] <vfw> phos1: I'll try to help if I can...
[17:18] <phos1> I want to try and fix it, upgrading to php7 would require a lot of testing, never used it on Drupal 7
[17:18] <iconicschema> http://imgur.com/a/40aJO
[17:18] <iconicschema> thats his settings page
[17:19] <vfw> phos1: and you find no errors in the log?  /var/log/httpd/error_log
[17:19] <iconicschema> he can’t move the monitors off of eachother
[17:19] <vfw> phos1: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[17:19] <vfw> phos1: Anything?
[17:19] <phos1> I am the second one, and as of right now that file doesn’t exist. All the archive ones are here
[17:20] <phos1> I have been re-naming / deleting it. Some errors are logged to it, but nothing about this internal server error
[17:20] <phos1> As of right now the file doesn’t exist (and i have had several internal server errors since)
[17:21] <jpmh> I use the set -o vi option in bash in LXterminal - usually all works fine.  Sometimes the "editor" seems confused about where it is and so the cursor is misplaced.  Any ideas
[17:22] <vfw> phos1: Did you look at https://www.drupal.org/node/416906 ?
[17:23] <vfw> phos1: Solution in that case was "I had to uncomment "RewriteBase /" in the .htaccess"
[17:23] <vfw> phos1: But if that does not apply, don't stop there.
[17:24] <phos1> This looks like the drupal internal server error message, my message isn’t from drupal. And it’s only on some pages not all of them
[17:25] <Ludo38> Hi everybody
[17:25] <iconicschema> Hello :D
[17:25] <Ludo38> I just bought a new external hard drive
[17:25] <Ludo38> :)
[17:26] <phos1> vfw: I’ve tried max execution time, and memory limits
[17:26] <Ludo38> what format system do you recommend ? I use Ubuntu but sometimes I need to exchange files to a Mac or PC
[17:26] <Ludo38> FAT ? NTFS ?
[17:26] <Southern_Gentlem> fat
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> Ludo38  create a shared folder, NTFS is fine
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> Ludo38  it's what i have
[17:28] <poz2k4444> Hi guys, I'm trying to use an already encrypted hard drive with luks/lvm, I know with debian I can boot into rescue mode and do everything from there, is there something similar with ubuntu?
[17:29] <pie3> Hallo
[17:29] <vfw> phos1: I think you should try accessing the broken pages again and generate error.log
[17:29] <tomreyn> poz2k4444: yes, it's called rescue mode ;)
[17:29] <pie3> any german
[17:30] <Pici> !de | pie3
[17:30] <phos1> vfw: For some reason they are not generating error.log, that’s what totally has me stuck.
[17:30] <poz2k4444> tomreyn: but I don't see the option when I but with the standard image from the official ubuntu page
[17:32] <vfw> phos1: If that is so, it must be problems with the site.
[17:33] <phos1> vfw: same site on my Centos server works perfectly.
[17:33] <vfw> phos1: Look at the ones that error out, see if you find anything wrong with the content or where it's served from.
[17:33] <vfw> phos1: What is Centos running?  php and apache versions...
[17:34] <ash_workz> sometimes my screen goes crazy and doesn't show letters on certain programs after showing up
[17:34] <vfw> phos1: (I don't know much about centos
[17:34] <Ludo38> Mmm looks like FAT and NTFS are equal
[17:34] <ash_workz> like "Wo  d y u l ke t  upg  de ..."
[17:34] <Ludo38> Thank you <3
[17:35] <nullbyte_> how can add parameters to grub for every linux os boot I mean, default nouveau.modeset=0 becouse when i add it to /etc/default/grub it adds it to current OS only?
[17:35] <genii> Ludo38: Consider usinf exfat
[17:35] <genii> *using
[17:35] <ash_workz> I have a loop running from an ssh that I don't want to break right now, can I just restart the "desktop" or w/e without killing my processes?
[17:36] <phos1> vfw: cpanel, php 5.5 (I can change php versions on it)
[17:37] <Ludo38> genii : is exfat compatible with any OS ? I use Ubuntu but need to plug to Win and Mac sometimes
[17:37]  * ash_workz crosses fingres
[17:37] <ash_workz> fingers*
[17:38] <genii> Ludo38: exfat has been supported in Windows since XP onwards, Mac Snow Leopard onwards.
[17:38] <ash_workz> :\
[17:39] <genii> Ludo38: In Ubuntu you'll need to install exfat-utils
[17:41] <genii> Ludo38: exfat also supports drives up to 128 petabyte, and file sizes up to the same size
[17:43] <Ludo38> genii:interesting! So, it's a more powerful format ? Faster ? Will it be natively supported in Ubuntu soon ?
[17:45] <sevuhl> sec
[17:46] <OerHeks> Ludo38, when microsoft changes to a new filesystem, exfat might become reality, natively
[17:46] <sevuhl> Quit: Ex-Chat
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> sevuhl  it's    /quit
[17:47] <ash_workz> 'ubuntu experienced an internal error'
[17:47] <ash_workz> it's been running pretty slow lately
[17:47] <ash_workz> maybe Franz is messing everything up
[17:47] <ash_workz> not sure why but my missing letters problem has happened pretty often lately; especially when "waking up"
[17:48] <yenclgj5nlw> Hi all! How to kill xorg and make it not to restart
[17:48] <yenclgj5nlw> Hi all! How to kill xorg and make it not to restart
[17:48] <wlp1s1> yenclgj5nlw: sudo systemctl stop lightm
[17:48] <wlp1s1> *lightdm
[17:49] <wlp1s1> yenclgj5nlw: so run sudo systemctl stop lightdm in a terminal
[17:49] <yenclgj5nlw> Unit lightdm.service is not loaded
[17:49] <wlp1s1> uh
[17:49] <wlp1s1> yenclgj5nlw: how did you start X?
[17:50] <ash_workz> I mean, you can kinda tell that when it happens something deep inside when awry
[17:50] <yenclgj5nlw> systemd has done it I guess
[17:50] <yenclgj5nlw> I wanna create xorg configuration to enable additional mouse buttons
[17:51] <wlp1s1> <_< you should've asked that first
[17:51] <yenclgj5nlw> when I start 2 instances of xorg the screen is filled with garbage
[17:51] <ash_workz> because the text is like in gedit, window headings, prompts, the settings menu; but more elaborate programs are not effected (eg Firefox, Atom Editor, etc) and at least the terminals are not effected (except for the aformentioned window headings)
[17:51] <sruli> how can i change tty from terminal?
[17:51] <yenclgj5nlw> and consoles become unswitchable
[17:52] <wlp1s1> sruli: what do you mean change tty from terminal? try ctrl+alt+f<number>
[17:52] <gwozt> hey guys i have a question
[17:52] <wlp1s1> gwozt: ask it
[17:52] <gwozt> ive set autologin off
[17:52] <sruli> wlp1s1: using virtualbox, no way to exec c+t+f# in guest
[17:53] <gwozt> but when the login screen appers when i boot up the computer
[17:53] <gwozt> i can easily login by pressing enter
[17:53] <wlp1s1> sruli: hit the Host key (usually Ctrl)
[17:53] <wlp1s1> it should work
[17:53] <gwozt> it doesn't actually require a password
[17:53] <wlp1s1> right ctrl
[17:53] <wlp1s1> gwozt: then set a password...?
[17:54] <gwozt> i already have
[17:54] <BluesKaj> then autologin is still in effect for some reason
[17:54] <sruli> wlp1s1: host + ctrl+alt+f# ?
[17:54] <wlp1s1> sruli: hit the Host key once, which should lock the keyboard
[17:55] <wlp1s1> then do the key combination
[17:55] <wlp1s1> it should turn green
[17:55] <gwozt> BluesKaj, how can it be fixed?
[17:55] <gwozt> i already have a password
[17:56] <sruli> wlp1s1: no luck is there a command i can execute in terminal?
[17:56] <wlp1s1> sruli: no, i don't think so
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> sruli  to emulate key presses, you can use 'xdotool', or is that not what you mean
[17:57] <sruli> wlp1s1: do you know how i can add keyboard shortcuts for vbox input?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> sruli  like 'xdotool key ctrl+alt+blah
[17:57] <gwozt> nothing happens when i set autologin on or off i always get prompted to enter a password but pressing enter gets me into my account
[17:57] <sruli> MonkeyDust: what is xdotool?
[17:58] <wlp1s1> you have to install it first
[17:58] <BluesKaj> gwozt, http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login-in-lightdm
[17:58] <iconicschema> After updates, the issue with dual screen is still an issue
[17:59] <kevin> Hello
[17:59] <ixem1er> bj
[17:59] <ixem1er> rbjr
[17:59] <flyzzx> yop
[18:00] <genii> Ludo38: Apologies on lag, I had to go take care of some business here at work. ... it's unlikely that it will be natively supported in Ubuntu any time soon, for the same reason FAT and NTFS are not...it's a proprietary format that Microsoft owns.
[18:01] <jf02jfv> hey
[18:01] <Guest68931> I'm currently facing a serious issue. I'm working on Ubuntu Desktop 16.10 on a clean install. My computer has both an integrated graphics card (CPU) and an NVIDIA card (DVI). The integrated graphics is set as the primary device, however, installing Ubuntu, or booting an existing installation does only provide an output over the NVIDIA card. Why is is this not respected in Ubuntu or how can I force Ubunt
[18:01] <Guest68931> u to output over the graphics controller of my choice?
[18:02] <flyzzx> into settings > updates > additionnals drivers
[18:03] <sruli> wlp1s1: MonkeyDust: found it, "sudo chvt <#>"
[18:04] <Guest68931> For NVIDIA, the Nouveau driver is installed, also the intel CPU driver(s) are installed.
[18:04] <flyzzx> u can choose which driver u want activate
[18:05] <Guest68931> Where should I do that? The NVIDIA has no option to disable it, only the proprietary drivers and the Nuoveau drivers. However, I can select "Do not use this device" for the intel chipset. I want to do this for NVIDIA...
[18:05] <yeed> well, I can't get my GPU driver to run properly! installed nvidia-375, nvidia-settings, nvidia-prime - prime does not work, can't change display brightness... any suggestions?
[18:07] <yenclgj5nlw> so I have managed to stop xorg (systemctl stop display-manager), but I unable to create xorg config
[18:08] <yenclgj5nlw> I'm
[18:08] <yenclgj5nlw> *I'm unable to create Xorg config
[18:08] <Guest68931> After installing the NVIDIA proprietary driver, Ubuntu boots using the NVIDIA card, but still no signal on the integrated graphics. However, the card has been blacklisted (/etc/initramfs-tools/modules)
[18:11] <rcw2> hi iirc apt-get installed version 2 of python.  What's the *best* way to install v 3.x?
[18:11] <nacc> rcw2: apt install python3 ?
[18:11] <nacc> rcw2: python points at python2, but python3 is often lso installed
[18:12] <Pici> rcw2: also don't repoint python at python3, that will break things.
[18:12] <nacc> Pici: good point :)
[18:12] <rcw2> wait, when i run python -v it says v 2.x.  and apt-get install python3 says 'is already the newest version (3.5.1-3)'
[18:12] <nacc> rcw2: right, so ruun `python3 -v`
[18:12] <rcw2> do i just need to point to 3?
[18:12] <rcw2> oooh
[18:13] <nacc> well, python3 --version
[18:13] <Pici> nacc, rcw2: its python3 -V
[18:13] <nacc> Pici: thanks :)
[18:14] <iresf> hello
[18:15] <iresf> why lubuntu 16.10 can not  render  correctly  what is the problem  ?
[18:16] <sruli> how can i make a dir not write timestamp when making changes? noatime just effects access times
[18:19] <nacc> sruli: why would you want that?
[18:20] <sruli> nacc: i need it for when i mount a FS, chattr -R +A works for dir but i need the FS to be mounted with it
[18:21] <cavia> hi
[18:21] <Guest68931> Any idea for my graphics problem?
[18:21] <cavia> Is anyone  there
[18:21] <nacc> sruli: +A also only affects atime?
[18:21] <sruli> nacc: correct, i need a way not to change timestamps at all
[18:22] <nacc> sruli: yes, and I'm asking what your usecase is?
[18:22] <sruli> nacc: hide last usage
[18:23] <phos1> vfs: My other ubuntu server that i thought was the same isn’t giving me any problems, it’s not erroring at all. It’s the same site / code as I cloned it....
[18:23] <retrover> hola
[18:23] <desktop> list
[18:24] <nacc> sruli: you want to hide when a file was last modified on the disk?
[18:25] <sruli> nacc: yes, i want to be able to mount a FS and all file changes should not show in timestamp
[18:26] <nacc> sruli: that seems contradictory to what most FS do
[18:26] <darky16> ya du monde ?
[18:27] <darky16> julian ? are you there ?
[18:27] <sruli> nacc: i know ;-)
[18:27] <nacc> sruli: as in, i think you'd break the fs itself if you did that
[18:27] <ceunincksken> I'm currently facing a serious issue. I'm working on Ubuntu Desktop 16.10 on a clean install. My computer has both an integrated graphics card (CPU) and an NVIDIA card (DVI). The integrated graphics is set as the primary device, however, installing Ubuntu, or booting an existing installation does only provide an output over the NVIDIA card. Why is is this not respected in Ubuntu or how can I force Ubu
[18:27] <ceunincksken> ntu to output over the graphics controller of my choice?
[18:28] <ixem1er> quelle est la ligne de commande avec SHUTDOWN pour rebooter sous windows en mutliboot (windows sous /dev/sd1 )
[18:28] <ixem1er> multiboot
[18:29] <vfw> ceunincksken: Did you install proprietary Nvidia driver software?
[18:29] <kostkon> !fr | ixem1er
[18:30] <ixem1er> ok merci
[18:30] <ceunincksken> @vfw Yes, I did. However, no output on the VGA channel.
[18:30] <Mibka> I installed ubuntu 16.04 and started using ZFS + NFS for setting up a file server. Now I'm getting 'lockd: cannot monitor <clientname>' warnings in dmesg every 10 minutes and after searching online it seems i need rpc.statd running. Which is not the case. I added NEED_STATD=YES to /etc/defaults/nfs-common and restart nfs with /etc/init.d/nfs-common restart but statd is still not running?
[18:32] <ceunincksken> vfw: I also installed the intel tool to install my intel drivers, but still no use.
[18:34] <tomreyn> Mibka: service statd start
[18:35] <Mibka> tomreyn: Failed to start statd.service: Unit statd.service not found.
[18:35] <tomreyn> oh thats old, sorry
[18:35] <tomreyn> rpcbind maybe?
[18:36] <sruli> nacc: do you know how i can chnage only date part of time stamp not time part?
[18:37] <Mibka> tomreyn: turns out the command was just 'start-statd' ;)
[18:37] <tomreyn> good to learn something new ;)
[18:40] <faber_> asd
[18:40] <nacc> sruli: i don't think that makes sense and isn't really possible (or would be very fs specific)
[18:41] <ceunincksken> I'm currently facing a serious issue. I'm working on Ubuntu Desktop 16.10 on a clean install. My computer has both an integrated graphics card (CPU) and an NVIDIA card (DVI). The integrated graphics is set as the primary device, however, installing Ubuntu, or booting an existing installation does only provide an output over the NVIDIA card. Why is is this not respected in Ubuntu or how can I force Ubu
[18:41] <ceunincksken> ntu to output over the graphics controller of my choice?
[18:42] <nacc> ceunincksken: i would imagine you can control this in the BIOS? just disable the nvidia card there?
[18:45] <ceunincksken> nacc: Thats no options because I need it for VGA Passthrough.
[18:46] <nacc> ceunincksken: hopefully someone else can help, I'm not sure then
[18:46] <yenclgj5nlw> can anyone explain what is /dev/input/mouse0 ? Can I get pressed buttons from it?
[18:47] <ceunincksken> nacc: Hmm, seems that if I enable Legacy Support in BIOS, that some things are changing.
[18:47] <ceunincksken> Keep you posted.
[18:49] <gamester> Why does journalctl -b-1 not work? Are only the current logs stored?
[18:49] <gamester> nothing from last boot?
[18:53] <ceunincksken> nacc: So, enabling 'Legacy Support' in BIOS, outputs over the Integrated Graphics instead of NVIDIA.
[18:54] <gamester> nvm, fixed
[19:09] <imaginal_cell> Has anyone used Landscape On-Premise (10 users) to manage off network computers? I am looking to spin a VPS to host landscape to help me manage my families computers (located in 4 different states). I have a domain name I wouldn't mind using but I'm not to sure if this is even a possibility. Anyone have 2 cents on how to accomplish this or a better way to manage multiple desktops?
[19:16] <Slown> Hi guys
[19:16] <jamesmc> Anyone familiar with installing http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-next/2016-11-22/ ?
[19:16] <Slown> I just want to know
[19:16] <Slown> is there a difference between installing ubuntu with uefi boot
[19:18] <jamesmc> I think you don't third party drivers may not be available for your hardware
[19:18] <jamesmc> *if
[19:18] <OerHeks> !uefi
[19:18] <imaginal_cell> Slown: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-things-you-should-know-about-uefi/
[19:19] <jamesmc> I installed http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-next/2016-11-22/ to solve bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1348890 and it did in fact solve it - but I get errors relating to linux-headers-4.9.0-997-generic - where do I get these ?
[19:20] <OerHeks> same ppa, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-next/2016-11-22/linux-headers-4.9.0-997-generic_4.9.0-997.201611212212_amd64.deb
[19:21] <jamesmc> Yea I thought so but they won't install ? Tells me linux-headers-4.9.0-997-generic depends on linux-headers-4.9.0-997; however:
[19:21] <jamesmc>   Package linux-headers-4.9.0-997 is not installed.
[19:21] <jamesmc> When I try to install linux-headers-4.9.0-997-generic_4.9.0-997.201611212212_amd64.deb
[19:21] <jamesmc> Just sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-4.9.0-997-generic_4.9.0-997.201611212212_amd64.deb right ?
[19:23] <OerHeks> jamesmc, no there is a trick, you should follow the order with headers and image https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Installing_upstream_kernels_.28manually.29
[19:24] <dave0x6d> How can I get the list of all packages that http://apt.llvm.org/xenial/ can provide?
[19:25] <OerHeks> linux-headers~.deb linux-headers~all.deb linux-image~.deb
[19:25] <jamesmc> Hmm ok let me give that another go
[19:26] <Krimm> Hi all, anyone here with postfix / mailserver experience ? (the guys @ #postfix) don't answer :p )?
[19:27] <Amara> Is there a way to check if I get hit by CVE-2016-1252, latest apt bug? Like download new checksums, do the checksum and report? I guess not, the only way to replace the os but I wanted to ask it anyway.
[19:27] <OerHeks> dave0x6d, synaptic is a fine detailed softwaremanager, with filters
[19:27] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[19:27] <omar__> anyone there
[19:28] <dave0x6d> OerHeks: Huh? How would you add that to your sources.list?
[19:28] <dave0x6d> OerHeks: You don't know the distribution.
[19:29] <dave0x6d> er, *component
[19:29] <OerHeks> dave0x6d, sunaptic is helpfull after you added that repo
[19:29] <omar__> hi anyone there ?
[19:29] <OerHeks> c/synaptic
[19:29] <omar__> what is the nature of this app
[19:30] <dave0x6d> OerHeks: Okay, that's great, except I don't know which components are available. Hence my question.
[19:30] <jamesmc> Ah my bad, I missed linux-headers-4.9.0-997_4.9.0-997.201611212212_all.deb - all set, thanks :) !
[19:30] <energizer> I have a new laptop and the Super+num doesn't open applications from the launcher. How can I fix this?
[19:31] <omar__> i like linux comunity all respect guys
[19:31] <jamesmc> ubuntu on asus ux305 is fantastic :)
[19:32] <OerHeks> llvm-toolchain-xenial-3.8 llvm-toolchain-xenial-3.9 main
[19:34] <coucou66> hi
[19:35] <dave0x6d> OerHeks: Where did you get that?
[19:36] <erva> what's up
[19:36] <OerHeks> dave0x6d, http://apt.llvm.org/
[19:36] <dave0x6d> OerHeks: Okay, now how would you do that if they didn't list the components there?
[19:36] <coucou66> hi
[19:37] <OerHeks> Amara, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-1252.html
[19:37] <dave0x6d> OerHeks: I believe the page might be out of date and a couple things missing.
[19:37] <erva> i just want to make sure that you see me typing guys
[19:37] <erva> the this app work
[19:37] <erva> that*
[19:38] <Keystroke> is it worth it to upgrade to the new dist
[19:38] <Amara> OerHeks, I know that page, I've read about the security report on launchpad, what I am asking is can I detect if I got hit by it? does apt logs its errors somewhere? Looks like exploit may need more than a few tries, so there may be logs about it.
[19:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> Keystroke: that's subjective.
[19:39] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello All, I am running UM Xenial, and the nm-applet keeps crashing atleast 10 times a day, any solutions please?
[19:39] <xangua> Um?
[19:40] <Mr_Cyclops> UM = Ubuntu Mate
[19:40] <Mr_Cyclops> Ubuntu Mate 16.04.1
[19:41] <OerHeks> Amara, i must do some reading then, don't know. but this is released 2 hrs ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1647467/comments/27
[19:45] <fooctrl> why am I missing "Microsoft Exchange" under Online accounts on Unity?  Scary
[19:46] <OerHeks> Amara, true, but security updates are out now.
[19:46] <xangua> fooctrl: did you try setting it in evolution?
[19:46] <OerHeks> apt should log these actions, but then it could easily be wiped too.
[19:47] <Amara> OerHeks, yeah but to get the security update, you gotta run the bugged software or install it offline.
[19:47] <fooctrl> xangua, no because I use in Thundebird, I just want to have it in my Calendar, and for that I would first need to add to online accounts
[19:47] <fooctrl> xangua, should I add it to evolution and then it should up?
[19:47] <Amara> It's like automatic root for millions of people.
[19:48] <nicomachus> so (I think) I completely removed MATE from my system here, but I'm still getting this MATE splash screen and DM: http://i.imgur.com/ZOdf0n7.jpg         http://i.imgur.com/11Xv6Bm.jpg
[19:49] <xangua> fooctrl: don't know, but as thunderbird is no part of gnome you Matt need add-ons for that
[19:50] <Slown> guys talk me abour btrfs
[19:50] <Slown> is that better to use it instead of ext4 ?
[19:50] <nicomachus> Slown: no.
[19:50] <Slown> why ?
[19:50] <nicomachus> Slown: not on-topic here. Ask in ##linux
[19:51] <fooctrl> xangua, I'd just want exchange to show up in my Calendar (which is basically Gnome Calendar), and for this to happen I need to have exchange added using Online accounts. But it's missing
[19:51] <KingsQuest> what is latest stable kernel in ubuntu 16.10 ?
[19:51] <nicomachus> KingsQuest: 4.8.0-30
[19:51] <OerHeks> nicomachus, sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth , apply the changes, sudo update-initramfs -u
[19:52] <nicomachus> OerHeks: thanks. what does that do?
[19:52] <OerHeks> you want to get rid of that splash screen? this tool sets your choise
[19:52] <xangua> fooctrl: well the unity online accounts it's not exactly the same as gnome online accounts
[19:53] <CoderEurope> What were the performance drawbacks of using 'Wubi' & why was it removed from LTS's ?
[19:53] <nicomachus> OerHeks: ok.
[19:53] <nicomachus> thanks
[19:53] <OerHeks> yw
[19:53] <fooctrl> xangua, unfortunately, you're right
[19:53] <CoderEurope> OerHeks: Hiya o/
[19:53] <xangua> fooctrl: that might explain why some features from a "pure gnome"desktop may be missing
[19:54] <xangua> It's also a few versions behind
[19:54] <OerHeks> good thing wubi died. incompatible with uefi too.
[20:01] <Rihanna> jelly: suck it
[20:01] <Rihanna> 8[20:01] <Rihanna> fuck it
[20:01] <Slown> can someone tell me if I need 8 Gb of swap
[20:01] <Slown> If I have 8 Gb of RAM
[20:02] <fooctrl> xangua, heh, actually adding it to Evolution, did end up adding it to Calendar :)
[20:02] <tomreyn> !language | Rihanna
[20:02] <Amara> Slown, for desktop? no, 8gb with no swap will work fine
[20:02] <xangua> fooctrl: nice
[20:02] <nicomachus> Slown: this is not the channel to talk about theoretical questions. Please use ##linux for that. You have been warned several times about staying on topic here.
[20:02] <fooctrl> xangua, I'll just disable mail (as I'm doing that with Thunderbird), as I only want calendar
[20:02] <fooctrl> xangua, yep :)
[20:02] <Slown> it's not theoretical question
[20:02] <Rihanna> ubottu: what?
[20:02] <Slown> it's an installation question
[20:02] <Rihanna> ubottu: sex
[20:02] <Rihanna> !fuck
[20:03] <Rihanna> !help
[20:03] <Rihanna> !commands
[20:03] <xangua> fooctrl: I'm reading you can add just gnome calendar and should work too
[20:03] <Rihanna> !list
[20:03] <nicomachus> Rihanna: please stop.
[20:03] <tomreyn> Slown: if you want to be able to suspend to disk, you'll need (up to) 8 gb of swap
[20:03] <Rihanna> how to use the bot?
[20:03] <nicomachus> !guidelines > Rihanna
[20:03] <nicomachus> !botabuse > Rihanna
[20:03] <nicomachus> err...
[20:03] <erva> wer spricht Deutsch ?
[20:03] <Rihanna> !ops | 8[20:03] <nicomachus> !botspam > Rihanna
[20:03] <tomreyn> !de | erva
[20:04] <xangua> fooctrl: gnome calendar is gnome standalone calendar
[20:04] <xangua> "gnome calendar"
[20:04] <erva> ok only english
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Slown: My take on swap : Do you intend to be able to hibernate the system ? With 8 Gigs of ram swap ordinarily will not be touched, however the system does expect that swap to exist, so a samll swap is cheap insurance .
[20:06] <Slown> ok thanks for you answer
[20:06] <ohemdevin> I usually have at least 4 GB of space allocated to swap, even though my computer has 12 GB of RAM.
[20:06] <Slown> I think 2 GB is enough for swap
[20:06] <ohemdevin> I followed a guide from the Red Hat website when I was making that decision.
[20:07] <NoImNotNineVolt> 64GB ram, 64GB swap here.
[20:07] <ohemdevin> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ch-swapspace.html
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Slown: I have 4 Gigs of ram .. and a 1 Gig swap partition .. my use case is light and I have never experienced a problem swap wise .
[20:08] <Slown> ok thanks
[20:11] <CodeMouse92> Bashing-om: I'm coming in VERY late on this convo, but isn't the convention to make the swap equal to your RAM?
[20:12] <CodeMouse92> Or am I missing something more?
[20:14] <Ben64> if you want to hibernate, you need swap to equal ram or more
[20:15] <Bashing-om> CodeMouse92: Well, yes and no .. Got to realize that there are a lot of old docs around from the time of sparse ram . Now if you are to hybernate, then yes one needs a bit larger swap than that of installed ram .
[20:16] <CodeMouse92> Bashing-om: Hm, that does make sense. If you don't need to hibernate, the OS isn't very likely to swap off its entire contents.
[20:16] <CodeMouse92> (One more case of "WHY do we do this", eh?)
[20:17] <Ben64> i have 16GB ram and no swap
[20:17] <Ben64> if i had less ram, i'd enable some swap
[20:18] <Bashing-om> CodeMouse92: Uh Huh . 'buntu is a constantly evolving system and a contining learning process in and of it's self .
[20:39] <bwmf-printer> can anyone recommend me a HP laser printer manufactured in the last 2 years that prints only in black & white and can also copy and scan? It must be under 150 dollars
[20:39] <Ben64> wrong channel
[20:43] <OerHeks> bwmf-printer, for linux general, check openprinting.org
[20:43] <OerHeks> but HP is well supported
[20:49] <DaveBarbaro[m]> hi
[21:02] <scalper_> hey
[21:03] <scalper_> is there a program that can extend my ubuntu display to my ipad? so i can still work on the main display too
[21:03] <scalper_> so i make an external monitor with tcp/ip
[21:03] <scalper_> with an app or so
[21:03] <Big-boss> Guys
[21:03] <Big-boss> Where can i get a openWRT lxc template?
[21:04] <Big-boss> Using Ubuntu server 16.04.
[21:05] <GrandPa-G> Might be off topic, but I am being asked to manage rack mount ubuntu machine and am looking for articles/comments on how to best remotely manage it (web, mysql...)
[21:05] <draeath> I'm running CLI-only on xenial. When I plug in my power adapter, ^@ is taken on the current TTY as if it was a keystroke. How can I stop ACPI stuff from acting like input devices like this?
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> GrandPa-G  yes, that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <GrandPa-G> I will have ssh and possibly rdp (though don't want to use it), so I am looking for ideas on how to know when down, update apps, blah blah
[21:05] <nicomachus> GrandPa-G: or #ubuntu-discuss
[21:06] <GrandPa-G> oky-doky, will go there
[21:06] <Big-boss> Anybody information on a lxc template server?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> Big-boss  there's also #lxcontainers
[21:10] <Big-boss> ooh oke.. sorry.
[21:10] <Big-boss> Thanks for referring me to that.
[21:11] <arooni> question:  is there a way to get display backlight adjustment working again on my lenovo t420 running ubuntu 16.04?  i used to be able to do function + brightness buttons; but they semeed not to work anymore.
[21:12] <men> /
[21:17] <raizzen> hello
[21:22] <bwmf-printer> OerHeks, i know about HP and openprinting.org but the info found there is overwhelming and difficult to understand. Their  forum link is dead
[21:23] <xangua> You could ask HP
[21:34] <anon_> ciao
[21:44] <anon_> Hi guys
[21:44] <ceto> hi
[21:44] <anon_> Does anybody of you use PGP?
[21:44] <anon_> And what do you think about it?
[21:47] <jatt> GPG is goood man
[21:47] <anon_> I just read about it a few days ago
[21:47] <anon_> But haven't really tried it
[21:47] <Guest69618> hi
[21:47] <jatt> good to encrypt files or send encrypted email
[21:48] <Guest69618> encryp
[21:48] <anon_> jatt, do you use PGP with some other stuff as Outlook, Thunderbird.... PGP has an application for that programs
[21:48] <imaginal_cell> Has anyone used Landscape On-Premise (10 users) to manage off network computers? I am looking to spin a VPS to host landscape to help me manage my families computers (located in 4 different states). I have a domain name I wouldn't mind using but I'm not to sure if this is even a possibility. Anyone have 2 cents on how to accomplish this or a better way to manage multiple desktops?
[21:49] <egonsen> hi! what is the difference between the several gtk engines out there? why isn't one engine enough, being customizable with themes?
[21:49] <jatt> anon_: I use it with gnus and EasyPG https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/epa.html
[21:51] <anon_> jatt : wow , that's awesome
[21:51] <xangua> egonsen: supposedly gtk 3.20 will stabilize theming
[21:51] <anon_> It would be great , if I could try to use my PGP with somebody
[21:51] <anon_> Wanna try with me?
[21:52] <egonsen> xangua, what is the difference between the existing engines?
[21:56] <xangua> egonsen: gtk 2 is for apps still using gtk2
[21:56] <gamblor3> hello?
[21:57] <egonsen> xangua, actually i just want to understand the difference between a theme and an engine in gtk. i'm new to this topic
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> egonsen  a theme is how/what your desktop looks like, an engine is more a sort of underlying technolgy
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> (does that make sense?)
[22:02] <egonsen> MonkeyDust, it does, but that leads to my original question: why aren't themes enough?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> egonsen  you mean lubuntu and kubuntu et al?
[22:05] <egonsen> MonkeyDust, rather clearlooks, equinox, lighthouseblue, ...
[22:06] <iresf> anyone can help to solve this problem : qemu could not load PC BIOS 'bios-256k.bin'
[22:08] <squeakyneb> iresf: just sounds like you've not got the right path in the config or something. It means what it says. Can't load that file.
[22:09] <wwalker> I want (need) to set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 _early_  . I've set /etc/default/locale but that only affects interactive sessions.  I need daemons to have the corect LANG value and prefer to not edit every daemon separately.  Any ideas?  (also already tried /etc/environment, no joy)
[22:11] <iresf> squeakyneb :  i did :sudo ln -sf /usr/share/qemu/bios.bin /usr/share/qemu/bios-256k.bin      but it did not work
[22:13] <wwalker> oops - I'm asking on ubuntu 14.04.  Also 16.04, but I just created /etc/systemd/system.conf.d/locale.conf with DefaultEnvironment=LANG=en_US.UTF-8 on 16.04 and one reboot later happiness...
[22:15] <genii> egonsen: There's a more detailed explanantion of gtk engines here https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes#Engines
[22:15] <kernello> hello everyone, I get this error when I run update-upgrade: paste.ubuntu.com/23624965, and I also have this stop sign on the upper pane, which appears when there is a problem with an update-upgrade.
[22:15] <kernello> what does the error refer to?
[22:21] <edmundeas> hi
[22:22] <john> hay guys, whatsup
[22:26] <lucyfx> im back. who was the guy that told me concat'd json was a bad idea?
[22:27] <lucyfx> im here with a stupid idea, y'all want to hear dis.
[22:28] <gwozt> hey guys i am trying to list all the available packages using "apt list" but it doesn't  work with some inputs
[22:28] <gwozt> like *node*
[22:28] <lucyfx> node doesnt exist in the ubuntu package manager anymore
[22:28] <lucyfx> maybe nodejs exists?