[12:15] <runlevelten> yeah, once you get used to kmail, it's nice
[12:15] <runlevelten> I now know why mac users used to go on about enjoying the "integration" of their crappy client now, heh
[12:15] <runlevelten> -now
[12:15] <grul> i like gmail
[12:15] <grul> :P
[12:15] <grul> the web client
[12:16] <rrbiz> odd this time migrate docs and settings from MS didn't recognize
[12:16] <elite101> where can i download DSL linux?
[12:17] <rrbiz> google it, it'll give u the website
[12:17] <jhutchins> elite101: There's this great web site at http://www.google.com/ that can answer all kinds of questions like that.
[12:17] <waylandbill> elite101: damnsmalllinux.org?
[12:18] <elite101> is that a real site?
[12:20] <Silent_G> Dragnslcr, checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:20] <Silent_G> what next?
[12:20] <Silent_G> lol
[12:20] <NickPresta> Silent_G, I believe you need the *-dev packages.
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> In this case, the Qt dev libraries
[12:21] <Silent_G> so qt dev now?
[12:21] <NickPresta> yes
[12:21] <Silent_G> ok
[12:21] <NickPresta> what are you compiling?
[12:21] <waylandbill> elite101: of course it is. It's the project's website.
[12:22] <rrbiz> someone know a trick to getting the laptop to recognize fn-f3 to turn of lcd screen ?
[12:23] <persen> ARGH i give up
[12:23] <rrbiz> think in dapper it did now in feisty it doesn't
[12:23] <NickPresta> rrbiz, which laptop do you have? It worked automagically on my Dell Latitude in Dapper
[12:23] <persen> spent 6 hours trying to get 1920x1080 but this shit makes me so angry i want to break something
[12:23] <rrbiz> averatec 1050
[12:23] <NickPresta> !language | persen
[12:23] <ubotu> persen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:23] <rrbiz> person modify ur xorg.conf
[12:24] <NickPresta> persen, what is your problem?
[12:24] <persen> rrbiz, done that all night
[12:24] <ERIK_LIMA> !libdvdcss
[12:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:24] <rrbiz> really and didn't kickin
[12:24] <rollergrrl> i need help with my sound card
[12:24] <persen> i have a 37 LCD FULL HD tv i try to run in 1920x1080 mode, it says in kde control center i have it but the sides of the desktop is not displayed
[12:24] <NickPresta> !ask | rollergrrl
[12:25] <ubotu> rollergrrl: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:25] <persen> so i miss start button etc..
[12:25] <waylandbill> persen: /etc/modprobe.d/  is what you want.  It's now several files in a subdirectory with the same format as a single conf file.
[12:27] <persen> waylandbill, do you know what file the snd device is configured in?
[12:28] <rollergrrl> for some reason I can not get my sound to work??
[12:28] <rollergrrl> any suggestions
[12:28] <waylandbill> sorry no
[12:28] <vzduch> rollergrrl: mixer settings (in KMix _and_ alsamixer)
[12:28] <Dragnslcr> rollergrrl- check the mixer settings, make sure the output channel isn't muted
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> I still can't figure out why the digital output channels in alsamixer are muted by default
[12:29] <rollergrrl> lol how do i get to that ?
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> KMenu -> Multimedia
[12:30] <elite101> wow i love linux lol they can do some amasing things lmao a pendrive at wal-mart is like 10$ for 128mb usb and they are sitting by the casher like  no one cares about em
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> KMix is in there. There's no GUI for alsamixer installed by default, but you can install it through Adept or just use the shell version
[12:30] <vzduch> rollergrrl: you should have a loudspeaker icon in the system tray -> click on it and choose 'Mixer'
[12:30] <rollergrrl> i mean I do not see a mute setting on it
[12:30] <persen> elite101, Should the cashiers care that linux is amazing while theyre selling 128 mb flash drives for 10$?
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> elite101- that's because nobody cares about them
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> rollergrrl- the mute control is the small light at the top of each slider (for KMix)
[12:32] <elite101> lol
[12:32] <elite101> just saying linux is cool. and that pendrives are so cheap
[12:32] <elite101> lol
[12:34] <rollergrrl> i have no Kmenu?
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> Do you have a taskbar?
[12:35] <rollergrrl> i do have a taskbar
[12:35] <ERIK_LIMA> !libdvdcss2
[12:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Right Click -> Add Applet
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Then select K Menu
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Dunno how/why you removed it in the first place
[12:38] <ERIK_LIMA> Guys!! Help! I need the right repository to install libdvdcss2!!
[12:40] <alynx> ERIK_LIMA: Hope this helps mate http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[12:41] <mm__202> Could someone help me out?  I [accidently]  deleted my /etc/init.d/mysql file and now apt-get install mysql-server fails everytime.  Could someone send me the file or tell me where I can get it?
[12:41] <elite101> how big is dsl?
[12:42] <mm__202> I've tried removing it, purging it, forcing it, everything.
[12:42] <ERIK_LIMA> alynx: I tried to add Seveas Packages on my sources.list, but didn't work :'(
[12:43] <ubuntu> allo
[12:43] <mm__202> anyone?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> ERIK_LIMA, pls explain 'didn't work'
[12:47] <ERIK_LIMA> BluesKaj: Because I obtain errors about the public key.
[12:47] <alynx> ERIK_LIMA: I tried to follow the guide from the link i gave you , works here
[12:47] <rollergrrl> I can only find k menu in manager package
[12:47] <ERIK_LIMA> But nevermind! :) I added the Medibuntu repository and installed the libdvdcss2 :D
[12:47] <alynx> ERIK_LIMA: ah ok , nice
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ERIK_LIMA, don't worry about the public key , delete the seveas repos , they aren't working properly , replace them with the medibuntu repos
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[12:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:49] <BluesKaj> ok, good
[12:49] <ERIK_LIMA> alynx: Let me explain. Todya I installed clamav. After I turn off my computer, go out home and come back to PC again...
[12:49] <ERIK_LIMA> My Ubuntu didn't boot! :( So I'm installing all the missed libs and programs I had again
[12:50] <BluesKaj> do you have a windows partition?
[12:50] <ERIK_LIMA> No.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> otherwise why use clamav
[12:50] <BluesKaj> you don't need it
[12:50] <ERIK_LIMA> Because of the viruses.
[12:51] <ProJ3ct> what is the french chanel pls
[12:51] <ERIK_LIMA> Linux is secure, of course, but it don't means it is free of viruses.
[12:52] <ERIK_LIMA> Nevermind about clamav. My next step is to install the drivers for my webcam
[12:53] <ERIK_LIMA> It's compatible with Microdia driver. I found a good explanation, in portuguese, to install it
[12:54] <rollergrrl> dragnslcr I found k menu in manager package what do I insall ?
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> !fr | ProJ3ct
[12:54] <ubotu> ProJ3ct: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:54] <ProJ3ct> Tks ubotu
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> rollergrrl- you shouldn't need to install KMenu from Adept
[12:55] <rollergrrl> i don't have it then
[12:55] <Dragnslcr> I'm not even sure if it's a package at all or if it's just part of the KDE core
[12:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, there is no KMenu package
[12:56] <rollergrrl> k thank you
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> If it isn't at the left end of your taskbar, you must have moved it or removed it yourself
[01:04] <elite101> hey what is the command line for java6?
[01:04] <NickPresta> elite101, to install it?
[01:04] <elite101> yeah
[01:04] <elite101> no download
[01:04] <elite101> sorry
[01:04] <NickPresta> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-* to install it.
[01:04] <elite101> then to download?
[01:05] <NickPresta> -d option
[01:05] <elite101> i dont get it?
[01:05] <elite101> -d option
[01:05] <vzduch> huh?
[01:06] <vzduch> the above apt-get command will download it automatically
[01:06] <persen> bye bye linux
[01:06] <persen> i cant take it anymore
[01:07] <NickPresta> lol
[01:07] <elite101> it sayed cant find any packets
[01:07] <elite101> for java6 -jre
[01:07] <vzduch> sun-java6-jre
[01:07] <elite101> yes i enabled multi universe and universe packets
[01:07] <elite101> yeah
[01:08] <vzduch> pastebin please
[01:08] <elite101> i spelt it correct in the konsole just wanted to save time typing
[01:08] <elite101> lol
[01:08] <vzduch> did an apt-get update beforehand?
[01:08] <ERIK_LIMA> So, guys. Here's how I installed the Microdria driver for my webcam on Ubuntu
[01:09] <elite101> no
[01:09] <elite101> how do u do that lol
[01:09] <ERIK_LIMA> I use the Debian packages
[01:09] <elite101> i did an update manually by adept when enabled the packets and hitting apply changes
[01:09] <ERIK_LIMA> First, you need to run a command on Terminal to see if your webcam is compatible with Linux
[01:09] <elite101> lol i didnt know there was an update command line
[01:10] <NickPresta> elite101, apt-get help
[01:10] <ERIK_LIMA> So, on Terminal enter "lsusb"
[01:10] <elite101> k
[01:11] <NickPresta> ERIK_LIMA, perhaps these instructions would be best on Pastebin or on Ubuntu forums
[01:11] <ERIK_LIMA> Must return something like "Microdia weex Mini WebCam" or equivalent
[01:11] <ERIK_LIMA> Calm down. I'm just retribuying your help :D
[01:12] <ERIK_LIMA> It is my "Thank You" to everyone. ^^
[01:12] <elite101> how do i enter an option on terminal?? when it says -u how do i type that in the command line to select that option
[01:13] <ERIK_LIMA> So I prefer to tell the ones who have an webcam with Microdia, how to install it
[01:13] <NickPresta> ERIK_LIMA, that's great and I appreciate your efforts but it will be difficult to share your findings when they're split over multiple lines of an IRC chat.
[01:13] <elite101> thats what forums are for?
[01:13] <ERIK_LIMA> OK. So, you can find the drivers dor other distros from this site:
[01:14] <elite101> if u post it here it will only be for like 2 sec's half of these ppl arent even on irc rite now its minimized????!?!?!?
[01:14] <ERIK_LIMA>       http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[01:14] <ERIK_LIMA> Thankd and goodbye
[01:14] <elite101> lol pointless?
[01:16] <caboose_1980> Hello.
[01:16] <vzduch> !hi | caboose_1980
[01:16] <ubotu> caboose_1980: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:16] <NickPresta> hi
[01:16] <elite101> okay i got java to install how do i get flashplayer9 working?
[01:16] <vzduch> same way
[01:16] <elite101> okay lol
[01:17] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:17] <elite101> i tried searching for it in adept and coulfnt find it
[01:17] <elite101> thanks
[01:17] <elite101> and what was the line for the update?
[01:18] <elite101> apt-get update
[01:18] <elite101> ?
[01:18] <vzduch> but, relating to Java..  @ all: my Java (sun-java6-jre) seems not to work in Konqueror, I keep getting errors on Java-heavy webpages (e.g. map24.com)
[01:18] <vzduch> elite101: it's enough if you do that once a day
[01:19] <elite101> i never done that thou
[01:19] <BluesKaj> elite101, if you didn't find it in adept then apt won't either , you need to add repositories
[01:19] <vzduch> the packages don't change that fast
[01:19] <alynx> i have troubles with konqueror on youtube , but firefox works like a charm
[01:19] <vzduch> YouTube works fine w/ Konq here
[01:19] <elite101> yeah? lol thats why i wanted flash i am using konqueror?
[01:19] <elite101> for youtube videos to work
[01:19] <elite101> and some webpages
[01:19] <malik__> i have installed kubuntu from a DVD . why dont i see Applications Menu there ??
[01:20] <gys> ??
[01:20] <runlevelten> Yep, I use youtube fine in konqy too.
[01:20] <vzduch> malik__: because KDE doesn't have an 'Applications' menu
[01:20] <elite101> man i wish i had a DVD drive :(
[01:20] <elite101> yeah really?
[01:20] <vzduch> it's all categorized in the K menu
[01:20] <malik__> ok
[01:20] <runlevelten> K Menu ftw.
[01:20] <elite101> they are in groups/internet/Multimedia
[01:21] <elite101> etc
[01:21] <malik__> i have installed vmware server from synaptec manager, where should i look for its startup icon?
[01:21] <runlevelten> Old friend. You know where stuff is in the K menu, because it says so on it.
[01:21] <vzduch> runlevelten: yep
[01:22] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | elite101
[01:22] <ubotu> elite101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:22] <elite101> cant u just upgrade your distro to a higher version like from 6.10 to 7.04?
[01:22] <alynx> yes
[01:23] <BluesKaj> nope
[01:23] <runlevelten> Yes.
[01:23] <elite101> really?
[01:23] <elite101> so i dont need to order the cd??
[01:23] <elite101> or well download the ISO
[01:23] <BluesKaj> well, if yer thinking you can include more apps by upgrading your distro
[01:24] <elite101> no so its just as if i installed it from the cd 7.04 but really i upgraded from 6.10
[01:24] <elite101> i dont have a dvd drive :(
[01:24] <alynx> elite101: I'll try and find the link that explains how for you.
[01:25] <elite101> okay but i really have 6.06.1 LTS KDE
[01:25] <elite101> its to old i know
[01:25] <vzduch> I keep hearing that Gutsy will be an LTS version.. so, after the experience w/ Dapper, it's likely to become 7.12 instead of 7.10 *gg*
[01:25] <malik__> how do i properly install the vmware server in kubuntu??
[01:25] <Hirvinen> vzduch: It won't. Gutsy+1 will be.
[01:25] <vzduch> Hirvinen: ah
[01:25] <NickPresta> vzduch, I just saw Mark post saying that it will be 8.04 that will be a LTS
[01:25] <vzduch> then that'll gonna be rather 8.06 ;)
[01:26] <elite101> The Flash plugin is NOT installed. why does it say that in terminal after i did sudo apt get- flash........
[01:26] <BluesKaj> malik__, there's a tutorial at the vmware server site
[01:27] <malik__> i just installed the vmware server from synaptec package manager, got the vmware server console in the system menu, but it does not start when i click on it
[01:27] <BluesKaj> elite101, i guess some ppl just don't don't read advice that's directed to them
[01:27] <elite101> what/
[01:27] <elite101> ?*
[01:27] <alynx> elite101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397221&highlight=dist+upgrade read post #6 in the treah
[01:27] <acidBURN> is kde 4 going to be in the next version of kubuntu 7.10?
[01:28] <BluesKaj> elite101, if you didn't find it in adept then apt won't either , you need to add repositories
[01:28] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: No.
[01:28] <alynx> **thread and change the names
[01:28] <elite101> i did
[01:28] <acidBURN> ? what not
[01:28] <elite101> what do u mean i didnt find?
[01:28] <elite101> i was going threw the programs list
[01:28] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: It won't be released nearly in time.
[01:28] <acidBURN> dam
[01:28] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | elite101
[01:28] <ubotu> elite101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:29] <acidBURN> is 7.10 going to have any cool NEW features?
[01:29] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:29] <rrbiz> acidBURN: u can install it urself though
[01:29] <vzduch> dayum.. if there's one thing I hate, it's rolling over my headphones cable w/ my chair..
[01:29] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: IIRC KDE 4 is currently set to be released roughly around the same time as 7.10. That's at least two months late.
[01:29] <rrbiz> install it all for that matter
[01:29] <acidBURN> can't wait for the unifed database setup....
[01:30] <vzduch> Hirvinen: I've heard that it won't be Kubuntu's default desktop for another 2 releases, so it will be in 8.10 at the earliest
[01:30] <vzduch> as default, that is
[01:31] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: 8.04 won't probably have it either as the default(though would be available) because they're afraid that KDE 4 won't be mature enough at that point to be in an LTS.
[01:31] <acidBURN> vzduch: your kidding right?  :(
[01:31] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: Nope. Riddell said it a while ago.
[01:31] <acidBURN> oh man
[01:31] <bsantos> hahahahuahuahuhauhauhua
[01:31] <Hirvinen> It should be available in 8.06 though.
[01:31] <bsantos> let got in home
[01:32] <vzduch> acidBURN: it'll probably made available as an update as soon as it's out & packaged, but it won't be the default desktop until at least 8.10
[01:32] <acidBURN> so, is there going to be any cool NEW items for kubuntu ?? :)
[01:32] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:32] <bsantos> I'm fucked
[01:32] <vzduch> !language | bsantos
[01:32] <ubotu> bsantos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:33] <elite101> man i still cant view youtube videos
[01:33] <vzduch> elite101: did you reload the plugins?
[01:33] <jbasilio> elite101: what's wrong?  64 bit?
[01:34] <rrbiz> my RSS's quickly go beyond 1000
[01:34] <rrbiz> too much info out there
[01:35] <elite101> no i didnt load the plugin for flash how do u do that? configure konqueror plugins
[01:35] <BluesKaj> vzduch, you can kead a horse to water .....  :)
[01:35] <BluesKaj> lead
[01:35] <vzduch> BluesKaj: huh?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> elite101, did you edite you sources.list and add the repositories
[01:36] <elite101> yeah
[01:36] <vzduch> BluesKaj: I already gave him the cmd to install the flash player
[01:37] <elite101> but it didnt install the flash plugin?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> yeah, but he didn't have it in the repos
[01:37] <vzduch> and I assume he already did that
[01:37] <elite101> it downloaded but didnt install
[01:37] <elite101> at the very last line :
[01:37] <vzduch> huh?
[01:37] <elite101> :(
[01:37] <abijah> does anyone knwo how to connect ubuntu to exchange server on AD domain?
[01:37] <elite101> it downloaded the packets
[01:37] <elite101> but all of asudden at the end it sayed Flashplayer plugin NOT installed.
[01:38] <vzduch> abijah: there is a (afaik for-pay) plugin for Evolution to do that
[01:38] <abijah> what is required? do i have to install LDAP
[01:38] <elite101> i dont know why the file was a trz. file or something? im on KDE dapper it should be debian?
[01:39] <elite101> maybe thats why because on the adobe web page there is no debian file to download?
[01:39] <vzduch> elite101: can you paste the complete output of the flashplugin installation please?
[01:39] <elite101> um i kinda closed the terminal after
[01:39] <elite101> i can re download it again
[01:39] <vzduch> then re-run the cmd
[01:39] <BluesKaj> elite101, use adept to install the flashplayer-nonfree
[01:40] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:40] <elite101> i know that
[01:40] <BluesKaj> and flashplugin-nonfree
[01:42] <elite101> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version. thats what it said why isnt youtube working then??? even thou it said the plugin did not install??
[01:42] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:42] <abijah> we are rebelling againt microsoft and are switching to Linux but We have a problem with winxp and ubuntu desktops accessing an exchange email server
[01:42] <elite101> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:42] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:42] <elite101> it downloaded but didnt upgrade? o.0
[01:43] <vzduch> !exchange
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exchange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <elite101> how do i upgrade it then?
[01:43] <elite101> java worked fine :)
[01:43] <elite101> just not flash? :(
[01:44] <renato> try with automatix elite101
[01:44] <elite101> i will install firefox maybe thats the prob? someone upthere sayed youtube doesnt work good on here anyways?
[01:44] <vzduch> Automatix?  no way..
[01:44] <elite101> im new to  kubuntu so if u say a program i prob wont know it
[01:44] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:44] <renato> youtube works wonders
[01:45] <vzduch> aldcor: stop it.
[01:45] <renato> www.getautomatix.com
[01:45] <alynx> elite101: try sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[01:45] <vzduch> renato: Automatix can screw your system up badly - don't recommend it.
[01:45] <alynx> java not javac
[01:47] <BluesKaj> !automatix
[01:47] <renato> didn't know vzduch, it has worked for me
[01:47] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:47] <solarwaver> is anyone here knows why ubuntu is not playnig divx?
[01:47] <solarwaver> is anyone here knows why ubuntu is not playnig divx?
[01:47] <vzduch> !codecs | solarwaver
[01:47] <ubotu> solarwaver: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:50] <elite101> im installing firefox maybe thats what my problem was, was just konqueror
[01:50] <renato> not really, youtube works with konqueror for me
[01:50] <vzduch> for me too
[01:50] <renato> it's just the plugin
[01:50] <vzduch> otoh, I don't have Dapper, I have Feisty
[01:51] <renato> me too
[01:51] <men007> oi
[01:51] <men007> q passa
[01:51] <BluesKaj> elite101, it should  run on konqueror too , but after installing an app sometimes you have to relogin or reboot
[01:51] <vzduch> !it | men007
[01:51] <ubotu> men007: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:52] <renato> with browsers  you just have  to restart the program itself
[01:52] <men007> ok baby
[01:53] <BluesKaj> renato, not alaways
[01:53] <men007> i want this program pls
[01:54] <solarwaver> vzduch thanx
[01:54] <BluesKaj> anyway BBL ...tvtime with wifey for a while
[01:54] <elite101> BluesKaj, yeah because when i updated my system kopete and kbit where still old looking once i restarted it was updated
[01:55] <elite101> well brb going to go reboot
[01:55] <malik__> how o mount an ntfs partition in ubuntu ??
[01:56] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: depends
[01:56] <renato> my desktop !ntsf
[01:56] <renato> !ntsf
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <renato> !partitions
[01:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:56] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: you can use linux ntfs kernel module to drive nt file systems read only
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> OR
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: you can use ntfs-3g or the like to have RW access
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: google for ntfs-3g ubuntu etc.
[01:57] <malik__> ok thanks i found a google pointer to a resource
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> welcome
[01:58] <vzduch> !ntfs | malik__
[01:58] <ubotu> malik__: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <x_link> Hi
[01:58] <powerpuffgirl> x_link: traitor!
[01:58] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: ?
[01:58] <powerpuffgirl> stoned.
[01:58] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: hehe
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> sup brother
[01:59] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: Not much
[01:59] <x_link> I need some help
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> ask
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> and ye shall receive
[01:59] <x_link> I just did sudo aptitude install automake1.9
[01:59] <x_link> But when I do automake --version it still says 1.10
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> when did you start using kubuntu x_link ?
[02:00] <vzduch> x_link: did you sudo aptitude remove automake1.10 (if there is a pkg w/ that name)?
[02:00] <powerpuffgirl> x_link: you are on feisty?
[02:00] <x_link> 7.04
[02:00] <x_link> So I must do sudo aptitude purge automake first?
[02:00] <powerpuffgirl> !info automake1.10
[02:00] <ubotu> Package automake1.10 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:01] <x_link> sedde@sedde:~$ automake --version
[02:01] <x_link> automake (GNU automake) 1.10
[02:01] <powerpuffgirl> $>automake --version
[02:01] <powerpuffgirl> automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6
[02:02] <vzduch> I guess 'automake1.10' == 'automake'
[02:03] <vzduch> aptitude lists a void pkg named automake1.10
[02:03] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: Okej
[02:03] <renato> what the hell is automake?
[02:03] <powerpuffgirl>   Suggests: automake1.10-doc
[02:03] <powerpuffgirl> yup
[02:03] <powerpuffgirl> renato: it generates makefiles ?
[02:04] <renato> compiler?
[02:04] <powerpuffgirl> no
[02:04] <powerpuffgirl> it generates files which tell the compiler what to do
[02:04] <Biovore> its a tool to setup your source for a build
[02:04] <renato> ooooh
[02:04] <renato> iteresting
[02:04] <renato> wery wery intewesting
[02:05] <powerpuffgirl> renato: install automake and read the manpage
[02:05] <elite101> nope still doesnt let me watching youtube videos?
[02:05] <renato> don't really need it at the moment, just curious, but thanks
[02:06] <powerpuffgirl> so your curiosity is satisfied?
[02:06] <renato> indeed
[02:06] <powerpuffgirl> well ignorance can be bliss as well
[02:07] <vzduch> btw, guys, if you're looking for a really good-looking FREE truetype font, try Linux Libertine  http://linuxlibertine.sourceforge.net/
[02:07] <powerpuffgirl> nothing beats ttf-dejavu
[02:07] <powerpuffgirl> in particular, DejaVuSerifCondensed.ttf
[02:08] <powerpuffgirl> best font ever!
[02:08] <vzduch> DejaVu Sans is quite nice, but I don't really like the DejaVu Serif fonts
[02:08] <lewix> hi
[02:08] <lewix> im tryin to find out the driver of wifi card
[02:08] <lewix> of my*
[02:08] <powerpuffgirl> do lspci and tell us which wireless card it is
[02:09] <elite101> weird flash plugin in nonfree is installed and java is too but i cant view youtube videos on firefox or konqueror?
[02:09] <lewix> I can have internet with my wireless card but I dont know the driver
[02:09] <lewix> Atheros AR5005GS
[02:09] <elite101> in adept*
[02:09] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: go to about:plugins in firefox and check it again
[02:09] <vzduch> lewix: well, if it works, why bother?
[02:09] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: or if you are on konqi, then I dunno
[02:09] <lewix> vzduch, because I need it for something else
[02:09] <elite101> okay im on firefox
[02:10] <Fr0de> lewix: probably madwifi driver set
[02:10] <elite101> powerpuffgirls,nice nic name lol
[02:10] <lewix> I don't remenber if I installed it myseld or it has been installed automatically
[02:10] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: why not just get flashplayer from adobe and unpack the xpm/so file libs to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:10] <lewix> Fr0de, how can I be sure
[02:10] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: one girl
[02:10] <elite101> well i was on konqueror before so i didnt know at the time plus i am just getting into kubuntu/linux/distros
[02:11] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: just use flash from adobe website
[02:11] <solarwaver> kserei kaneis pos pernas ton codec gia divx?
[02:11] <elite101> well i have it now installed
[02:11] <Fr0de> lewix: if you look at the output of ifconfig, if there's a ath0, then it's madwifi
[02:11] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: download the tar.gz file, and then tar zxvf blahblahfilename.tar.gz and then cd to unpacked directory and run the installer or cp/mv the files there to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:11] <vzduch> elite101: in Konq  Tools | Configure Konqueror | under 'Netscape plugins' you will find the tab 'Plugins' that lists the plugins currently installed.. in my case the Flash player is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[02:12] <renato> I know noone's asking me for my opinion, but I think a linux savvy woman is damn sexy!
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> vzduch: packaged flashplayer or one from adobe?
[02:12] <vzduch> powerpuffgirl: packaged
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> v9?
[02:12] <vzduch> I guess so
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> hmm
[02:12] <lewix> Fr0de, thanks
[02:12] <NickPresta> renato, I'm trying to get my girlfriend to convert ;) she already swoons at the sight of Beryl/Compiz
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> can't be
[02:12] <elite101> go to about:plugins in firefox and check it again............. how do i do that
[02:12] <lewix> so its madwifi
[02:12] <renato> i think there's even a .deb file
[02:12] <elite101> go to about???
[02:12] <elite101> there is no tab
[02:13] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: instead of going to www.google.com type in about:plugins
[02:13] <elite101> dont need that
[02:13] <mtv> ubuntu is telling me I need to sudo dpkg configure -a, and it resumes a vmware setup.  This issue is that vmware never completes the setup.  And I cannot get into synaptic because of this.  What should I do?
[02:13] <elite101> already have it installed flashplayer9
[02:13] <renato> that one you just right click, install package and that's that
[02:13] <elite101> just wont load youtube
[02:13] <renato> installed it, or just downloaded it somewhere?
[02:13] <elite101> me?
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: start firefox from console, and then visit youtube
[02:14] <vzduch> !aptfix | mtv
[02:14] <ubotu> mtv: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: look in the console output for anything related to flash and see what it says
[02:14] <elite101> how do i open it up just console:firefox?
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> no man
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> go into konsole or terminal or soemthing and type firefox
[02:14] <renato> or go: sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[02:14] <vzduch> elite101: open a terminal and enter 'firefox' there
[02:14] <elite101> okay thats what i sayed?
[02:15] <chris_> f
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> or apt-get -f install :)
[02:15] <elite101> they are already installed?
[02:15] <renato> have you tried talking to it?
[02:15] <elite101> its just youtube wont work
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> does google video work?
[02:15] <renato> maybe it just needs a little love and understanding
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> non youtube flash works?
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> what about joecartoon.com
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> does that work?
[02:16] <elite101> youtube doesnt work still says i need a upgraded flashplayer or javascript is not enabled even thou i have eveything they ask?
[02:16] <mtv> vzduch: is there anything else i could do.  dpkg configure -a just sits with vmware.  is there a way i could bypass vmware when in dpkg configure -a?
[02:16] <elite101> joecartoon.com no spyware?
[02:16] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: in about:plugins tell me what you see.  flash 7 or flash 9?
[02:17] <tk> anyone good with bluetooth setup under Kubuntu? I have to keep running hidd --search and reconnecting my devices whenever I leave the PC long enough for the screensaver to kick in...
[02:17] <vzduch> mtv: you could uninstall vmware
[02:17] <elite101> in about?
[02:17] <elite101> okay nvm
[02:17] <elite101> i know 1 sec
[02:17] <mtv> vzduch: i did a complete removal, but the issue remains
[02:17] <renato> spyware, linux, really?
[02:17] <vzduch> mtv: that's not possible if vmware isn't there anymore
[02:18] <mtv> vzduch: well then synaptic did not do what it was suppose to do.
[02:18] <tk> mtv: if you did a removal, maybe you can do apt-get clean to remove the local cache of hte package files?
[02:18] <elite101> okay i went to joecartoon it sayed plugin needs to be installed on a little bar that poped up so i clicked install and yeah gotta wait to see if it works
[02:18] <renato> or better yet: sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:18] <tk> that too :)
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: flash isn't installed correctly
[02:19] <tk> no help on the bluetooth stuff though eh? hidd --search is really annoying :(
[02:19] <mtv> tk: i will take a look into that.  renato i will try that as well
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: remove all flash player packages
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: and install from flash from adobe's website
[02:19] <elite101> okay
[02:19] <elite101> how do i do that in adept?
[02:19] <renato> not in adept, elite
[02:19] <elite101> why not?
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl>  elite101 in command line
[02:20] <elite101> okay whats the command
[02:20] <elite101> sudo apt uninstall
[02:20] <elite101> ?
[02:20] <vzduch> *apt-get
[02:20] <renato> no sudo apt-get remove
[02:20] <ccollander> sudo apt-get remove ___
[02:20] <elite101> remove....?
[02:20] <renato> and the name of the package you have installed
[02:20] <renato> literally
[02:20] <vzduch> better.. sudo apt-get remove --purge $pkgname
[02:20] <ccollander> sudo apt-get remove beryl  #if you want to remove beryl, for example
[02:20] <elite101> i dont memorize these's command lines
[02:20] <powerpuffgirl> actually
[02:20] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: hold on
[02:21] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: which flash package did you install?
[02:21] <renato> you don't have to, it just happens over time
[02:21] <elite101> i dont wanna remove something i need.
[02:21] <elite101> flashplugin9
[02:21] <elite101> non free
[02:21] <powerpuffgirl> hmm that should work
[02:21] <zombielion> i am using kubuntu 7.04 i just installed my ddvd/cd burner and i already had a cd burner installed. i also removed a dvd player well now it isnt seeing the cd burner or the dvd cd burner is there like an add hardware or somethig i am still new to kubuntu
[02:21] <ccollander> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[02:21] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:21] <renato> then: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin9
[02:21] <renato> you have to close adept, if it's still running though
[02:22] <elite101> thanx ccollander.
[02:22] <powerpuffgirl> its actually flashplayer-nonfree
[02:22] <powerpuffgirl> yeh
[02:22] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: when you installed it, did you make sure that you did it right?
[02:22] <vzduch> powerpuffgirl: here it was flashplugin-nonfree
[02:22] <elite101> so im removing the wrong one?!?!?!?! o.0
[02:22] <ccollander> i would highly recommend reading up on apt-get and apt-cache
[02:23] <renato> now, elite101, this is the site where you download the tar: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[02:23] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: if they are sata no worries, if you installed two IDE optical devices, you need to set the jumpers to either slave/master or connect them to different IDE controllers
[02:23] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: or you can use cable select on the same controller
[02:23] <elite101> dont need it plus i thought KDE/dapper use's debian???
[02:23] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: does your bios see the optical devices?
[02:23] <ccollander> okay, does anybody know if sata 3g works on ubuntu?
[02:24] <renato> did you get it?
[02:24] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: no. ubuntu uses the debian package management system only.  APT.  Debian itself has different packages
[02:24] <zombielion> wow i guess i will just start from the beging and check thanx
[02:24] <renato> download the tarball, elite101
[02:24] <renato> here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[02:25] <elite101> tarball?
[02:25] <renato> the file with tar.gz
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> a tarball is a term used for a compressed tar file
[02:25] <ccollander> tarball is a source code file you compile into a runnable program
[02:25] <elite101> what is that for? shockwave?!?!? im getting flashplayer rite now but i will prob need that next lol
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> tgz or tar.bz2 or tar.gz etc.
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> its a ball of tar
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> basically
[02:25] <ccollander> lol
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> ;D
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> ccollander: not always a source package
[02:26] <ccollander> so , out of curiousity, what filesystems do ya'll use?
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> ext3 > *
[02:26] <ccollander> pwerpuffgirl: yeah, i realized that after I said it
[02:26] <elite101> yeah it works
[02:26] <renato> shockwave was the old name
[02:26] <elite101> lol thanks
[02:26] <elite101> yeah i know
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: what works?
[02:26] <ccollander> I have my / as reiserfs but my /home as XFS
[02:26] <elite101> flash
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> flash working now on youtube?
[02:27] <elite101> no but on joecartoon
[02:27] <elite101> its installed properly thou
[02:27] <powerpuffgirl> ok, try youtube?
[02:29] <powerpuffgirl> tuberostomocologically grand.
[02:29] <ccollander> lol, wtf?
[02:30] <powerpuffgirl> =)
[02:30] <neusonce> god i hope java is installing this time
[02:30] <solarwaver> is anyone knows XVID MPEG-4 decoder?
[02:30] <elite101> hurray youtube works lol
[02:30] <ccollander> gratz!
[02:30] <powerpuffgirl> solarwaver: please ask your real question
[02:30] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: congrats
[02:30] <Biovore> solarwaver: it works on everything..
[02:31] <renato> hey, does anyone know how on earth you configure the home directory for java or something like that?
[02:31] <vzduch> renato: huh?
[02:31] <renato> tomcat won't install until I do that
[02:31] <ccollander> renato: what do you mean?
[02:31] <Biovore> I think is an enviroment variable called JAVAPATH?
[02:31] <solarwaver> where i find XVID MPEG-4 decoder?
[02:31] <renato> don't worry, I thought the same: what the fuck?
[02:31] <Biovore> solarwaver: xine, mplayer do it
[02:31] <powerpuffgirl> !w32codecs
[02:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:32] <renato> exactly Biovore
[02:32] <Biovore> XVID complete opensource..
[02:32] <solarwaver> powerpuffgirl u use linux?
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> w32codecs+mplayer should take care of it all
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> solarwaver: no
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> solarwaver: I hate linux and unix
[02:32] <Biovore> http://www.xvid.org/
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> I use windows 3.1
[02:32] <renato> ha ha ha
[02:32] <solarwaver> lol
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> actually windows 3.11 for workgroups
[02:32] <Biovore> you should use the win3.1 program manager under win on linux :-P
[02:33] <solarwaver> i am impresed with u? ru a girl 4 resl?
[02:33] <renato> so, anyone the JAVA_PATH thingy?
[02:33] <powerpuffgirl> no man
[02:33] <powerpuffgirl> its just a friggin nickname
[02:33] <solarwaver> ok
[02:33] <Biovore> renato: export JAVAPATH="/a/path/to/something/"
[02:33] <stoned> happy?
[02:34] <Biovore> renato: stuff it in you .bashrc file in your home directory
[02:34] <renato> should I type that on a terminal?
[02:34] <renato> oh
[02:34] <renato> ok
[02:34] <Biovore> you can.. but it will not be perminate
[02:34] <stoned> permanent
[02:34] <Biovore> tnx
[02:34] <stoned> sure
[02:34] <Biovore> :-)
[02:34] <stoned> am I obligated to smile back?
[02:34] <vzduch> solarwaver: Welcome to IRC, where men are men, women are men, and children are a bunch of FBI agents.
[02:34] <neusonce> you guys are 1337
[02:34] <Biovore> no
[02:35] <stoned> Biovore: just messing. :)
[02:35] <renato> ...and noone's naked
[02:35] <Biovore> well if 1+3+3=7.. then yes..
[02:35] <renato> ...exept for the agents of course
[02:35] <stoned> we are far from elite
[02:35] <underdog5004> ha ha
[02:35] <stoned> #debian is elite
[02:35] <stoned> #gentoo is elite
[02:36] <stoned> ubuntu not so much
[02:36] <stoned> give it a few more years
[02:36] <renato> we're mainstream
[02:36] <stoned> all in good time my man, all in good time
[02:36] <Biovore> well the people in the know hide and only answer questions if a real question is asked..
[02:36] <neusonce> is ther anything that ubuntu cant be told to do that redhat cant?
[02:36] <neusonce> i think not
[02:36] <vzduch> neusonce: ?
[02:36] <stoned> thats not the pint
[02:37] <renato> until we stop right clicking on things to "edit as root" and "install package" we won't be elite
[02:37] <solarwaver> ok guys tell me how i put tha f..... xvid mpeg4 decoder?
[02:37] <Biovore> there all the same thing..  just a diffenence on whats on there by default and the configuration..
[02:37] <stoned> debian is strong since 1993
[02:37] <Biovore> solarwaver: add multiverse repo
[02:37] <stoned> its been there and as such its users from long ago are elite in the ways
[02:37] <Biovore> !multiverse
[02:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:37] <Biovore> and update your repos
[02:37] <Biovore> then install mplayer
[02:37] <ERIK_LIMA> !microdia
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microdia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <stoned> ubuntu is fairly new, and the people who move to ubuntu in lots are the windows users not very familiar with linux
[02:37] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:37] <neusonce> truthfully im a linux baby
[02:37] <stoned> so this is not elite as other distros
[02:37] <stoned> yet.
[02:38] <neusonce> i cant even istall java , anyway i gtg
[02:38] <stoned> give ubuntu 15+ years and see where it goes
[02:38] <Biovore> apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[02:38] <Biovore> bam.. java is installed..
[02:38] <renato> it'll go propietary
[02:38] <renato> :-P
[02:38] <stoned> it can't
[02:38] <stoned> it is under gnu gpl since it uses the linux kernel
[02:38] <renato> I'm joking
[02:38] <Biovore> you all can try just typing ubuntu install <thing>
[02:39] <Biovore> should get about 1000 hits
[02:39] <stoned> renato: i have no sense of humor
[02:39] <stoned> despite my constant mental state
[02:39] <renato> sad
[02:39] <stoned> see, that was a joke.
[02:40] <renato> yeah, well, you have to tell 9 bad, to get the 10th right
[02:41] <stoned> I got a bad throat
[02:41] <stoned> sore and all
[02:41] <stoned> I think I might be coming down with strepthroat
[02:41] <stoned> apt-get install sore-throat-remedy
[02:41] <stoned> =/
[02:42] <renato> sudo apt-get install stoned --fix-missing
[02:42] <stoned> umm what
[02:42] <Biovore> will probably have to download alot for that one :-P
[02:42] <mcrandello> 1 shot each lemon juice and honey, 2 shots whisky and a sprinkle of cinammon. Heat for 45 seconds and then slug down as soon as it's cool enough to drink
[02:42] <NickPresta> stoned, `cd hospital && fix_bs_and_del` ;)
[02:42] <mcrandello> will fix any throat problem
[02:42] <raptorquest> I am new to Kubuntu/Ubuntu so... I am running Kubuntu 6.10 and I have a disk for Ubuntu 7.04.  Can I update Kubuntu with the Ubuntu 7.04 disk or do I need to upgrade from a Ubuntu source?
[02:43] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:43] <stoned> if I drink alcohol I will go to hell
[02:43] <stoned> I cannot do that
[02:43] <stoned> thanks though
[02:43] <mcrandello> this is totally medicinal though
[02:43] <stoned> doesn't matter
[02:43] <mcrandello> sorry to hear about your hell problem then, it really works
[02:43] <stoned> me too
[02:43] <Biovore> raptorquest: I am not sure about the upgrade path from dapper (6.10) to 7.04 using a CD.. but I think you can do it via dist-upgrade
[02:44] <stoned> btw, 1 shot == 50ml.  isn't that a bit much lemon juice
[02:45] <stoned> are you just making things up?
[02:45] <Biovore> !dist-update
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <mcrandello> no, I usually double the recipe though
[02:45] <stoned> mcrandello: naughty
[02:45] <mcrandello> after taking, you hop in bed under covers and if you have a fever it will be gone in the morning also
[02:46] <renato> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:46] <stoned> I'm not religous though.  I toke up and I get wasted too
[02:46] <mcrandello> if it's a bad fever the hallucinations are a bonus side effect
[02:46] <stoned> see my nickname? hellooooo?
[02:46] <stoned> :)
[02:46] <mcrandello> well yeah
[02:46] <mcrandello> :)
[02:46] <raptorquest> okay.  thanks.
[02:46] <stoned> raptor is a great game
[02:47] <stoned> thank god there is a free raptor clone
[02:48] <randy> !resolution
[02:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:49] <raptorquest> by the way, for medical help you might try familydoctor.com
[02:49] <persen> Where does X write its log messages?
[02:49] <mcrandello> I've got a laptop and an external usb numpad. The numpad's numlock causes the laptops to engage, making the alphabet portion pretty much useless
[02:49] <Biovore> persen: /var/log/
[02:49] <mcrandello> anyone know an easy fix for that?
[02:49] <mcrandello> or a difficult one?
[02:50] <Biovore> mcrandello: tried pressing numlock again?
[02:50] <mcrandello> turns off both of them :(
[02:51] <persen> !widescreen
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <mcrandello> they seem to be coupled to one another
[02:52] <persen> hm
[02:52] <renato> what do you mean by coupled?
[02:52] <persen> Xorg.conf looks ok to me, but maybe this may scale things wrongly, (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (304, 304); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config   ??
[02:52] <mcrandello> renato: you press one and the other one goes.
[02:53] <mcrandello> I had a different numpad that didn't seem to do that but it died a few months ago
[02:54] <mcrandello> on that one you had the numpad numlock on and could still type words and things. This one you get leet-speak because the half of the keyboard doubles as a numpad
[02:54] <mcrandello> if that makes any sense
[02:55] <renato> did you have the numpad plugged in at the time of installation?
[02:55] <mcrandello> system installation? I've had kubunu on here for over a year, just bought the new numpad to replace the one that wore out
[02:55] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:59] <renato> no idea, sorry, and there doesn't seem to be a similar bug reported
[03:00] <stoned> hamena hamena hamena
[03:00] <Apollo1> Apollo1
[03:00] <ERIK_LIMA> It can't work :( My webcam can't work!
[03:00] <vzduch> wtf?
[03:00] <stoned> aldcor: why do you do that
[03:00] <stoned> vzduch:
[03:01] <ERIK_LIMA> My Microdia Triplex i-Mini PC Camera don't work
[03:01] <stoned> does it sit on the couch all day?
[03:01] <stoned> does it procrastinate doing the wash?
[03:01] <ERIK_LIMA> I tried installing spca5xx, but my webcam don't work
[03:02] <stoned> so get a new cam
[03:02] <aldcor> aldcor
[03:02] <vzduch> stoned: ?
[03:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> aldcor is still saying his own name?
[03:02] <stoned> aldcor: stop smoking crack.
[03:03] <ERIK_LIMA> stoned: It's not necessary. Other day my webcam was working fine :(
[03:03] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: you said it doesn't work
[03:03] <ERIK_LIMA> But, today I needed to reinstall Ubuntu and I lost everything
[03:04] <ERIK_LIMA> Don't work now, I meant
[03:04] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: you mean you can't get it to work again
[03:04] <ERIK_LIMA> Yeah... :'(
[03:04] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: unfortunately I have never owned a cam
[03:05] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: how did you do it last time?
[03:05] <ERIK_LIMA> I did this:
[03:05] <stoned> install the kernel module or compiled it from source, modprobe it, and you should be ok with a cam software
[03:06] <vzduch> if I ever gonna buy one, I'll take one that is known to work
[03:06] <ERIK_LIMA> First: apt-get install debhelper
[03:06] <vzduch> ERIK_LIMA: you already posted the whole story in this channel :/
[03:07] <vzduch> ERIK_LIMA: instead of in a blog post, forum post, or wiki
[03:07] <vzduch> where it would be much more helpful for other ppl
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> Second: download packages from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gspca-source and http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/spca5xx-source
[03:07] <mcrandello_> gah dropped wifi. anyway I tried all the different usb ports and a different cable, no dice
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> Third:
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> # dpkg -i gspca-source_01.00.16-1-1_all.deb
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> # dpkg -i spca5xx-source_20060501-2_all.deb
[03:08] <ERIK_LIMA> This worked for me one time. But, now doesn't. I don't know what's wrong...
[03:08] <stoned> probably dependency issues or something
[03:08] <stoned> don't mix packages from another distro
[03:09] <stoned> do sudo apt-get build-dep spcablahblahpackagename
[03:09] <stoned> then download the source from upstream and not from debian
[03:09] <stoned> then just comiple it
[03:09] <ERIK_LIMA> But Debian packages worked on my webcam...
[03:09] <stoned> unstable is constantly changing
[03:09] <ERIK_LIMA> I don't know why today didn't work
[03:09] <chrisq91> !wifi
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <mcrandello_> they may work but it's never a good idea to use them
[03:09] <stoned> what part of don't mix debian packages with ubuntu do you not understand?
[03:10] <mcrandello_> bad things(tm) could happen
[03:10] <stoned> ubuntu != debian
[03:10] <ERIK_LIMA> Yeah, you're right...
[03:10] <mcrandello_> if you can't find a native package even using checkinstall to build and install from source is better
[03:11] <madrid> #madrid
[03:12] <stoned> I love Fear Factory
[03:14] <hatter> anyone aware of an irc client that has trapsparent backgrouds like the terminal emulators ?
[03:14] <NickPresta> hatter, xchat does, IIRC
[03:15] <hatter> NickPresta, cool, thx i will check it out
[03:15] <ERIK_LIMA> So, I cannot put my webcam to work??
[03:16] <redshadowhero> Hello, all.
[03:16] <ERIK_LIMA> I was dreaming when I saw my webcam working??
[03:16] <stoned> probably
[03:16] <runmerryten> kopete does too
[03:16] <runmerryten> transparent background that is.
[03:17] <NickPresta> hatter, perhaps the transparency I was remembering isn't what you're looking for. Apparently, only the textbox/conversation area can be transparent...
[03:17] <ardchoille> brb
[03:17] <runmerryten> hello stoned. grab this
[03:18] <hatter> NickPresta, yeah, just found it,  only the middle box :(
[03:18] <JustHuman> Hi All
[03:18] <ERIK_LIMA> Now, everytime when I run Kopete and configure my webcam, I see a blue screen and I cannot configure my webcam... :(
[03:18] <ERIK_LIMA> I will continue trying... I will not sleep until it works!
[03:18] <slacker403> does a default install of kubuntu take alot of ram ?
[03:18] <slacker403> im used to my slackware nstuff
[03:19] <slacker403> but i really would like a packahe management
[03:19] <abdulla14> hi all
[03:19] <runmerryten> irssi is transparent like a terminal emulator :D
[03:19] <runmerryten> and so is erc ;)
[03:19] <abdulla14> i am new to ubuntu, what is that chat room for?? troubleshooting?
[03:19] <aldcor> aldcor
[03:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> abdulla14: It's the support channel
[03:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Does anyone else think that aldcor might be some sort of bot, or at least using one? I doubt that someone would be so bored that they'd be physically typing their own name into a channel at some random timing.
[03:23] <stoned> aldcor: cut that out
[03:23] <stoned> my throat hurts
[03:23] <stoned> damn sickness
[03:23] <redshadowhero> wait, so that aldcor guy has been doing this since yesterday?
[03:23] <stoned> i know man
[03:23] <stoned> I been wondering why
[03:24] <stoned> I saw it do that yesterday too
[03:24] <redshadowhero> thats extremely odd...
[03:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> redshadowhero: Yup.  I'm relatively new to irc, truth be told...
[03:27] <aldcor> aldcor
[03:27] <redshadowhero> speaking of irc, how does one register their nickname?
[03:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !register
[03:27] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:28] <redshadowhero> WhtWolfTeraDyne: thanks
[03:29] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> redshadowhero: no problem.
[03:32] <redshadowhero> Hmm, I think that I just registered, is there anything else that I need to do?
[03:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> redshadowhero: not that I know.
[03:34] <redshadowhero> Alright, thanks.
[03:34] <stoned> hey guys
[03:34] <redshadowhero> Yes?
[03:34] <stoned> I installed lm-sensors and configured sensors but I can't see my cpu temp
[03:36] <stoned> http://paste.debian.net/33283
[03:36] <stoned> which one is the cpu temperature?
[03:37] <redshadowhero> Well, with my rudimentary knowledge on the subject, I would say that it is either 16 or 17
[03:37] <stoned> what?
[03:37] <stoned> thats too low
[03:37] <stoned> way too low. lower than room temp
[03:37] <stoned> in C or in F
[03:38] <AscendedDaniel> stoned: probably sensor number 16 or 17
[03:38] <stoned> oh
[03:38] <stoned> ohh yeah
[03:38] <AscendedDaniel> :)
[03:38] <redshadowhero> Ha ha.
[03:38] <stoned> hehehe
[03:38] <stoned> thanks buddy
[03:38] <redshadowhero> Sorry I didn't make myself clear earlier.
[03:39] <stoned> no worries, I'm higher than a kite
[03:39] <redshadowhero> Okay...
[03:39] <stoned> that can't be right temperature
[03:39] <stoned> room temp atm is about 40C
[03:39] <stoned> no
[03:39] <stoned> I'd say the room temp is about 80C
[03:39] <redshadowhero> Hmm, well, it looks like one of your fans is going...
[03:39] <stoned> maybe 75F
[03:39] <stoned> i mean
[03:39] <stoned> no C
[03:40] <stoned> going where?
[03:40] <redshadowhero> 80?!
[03:40] <stoned> what?
[03:40] <stoned> where?
[03:40] <redshadowhero> uh... part number... 13
[03:40] <stoned> what?
[03:40] <redshadowhero> *sensor number
[03:40] <stoned> fan1:     2986 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
[03:40] <redshadowhero> Yeah...
[03:40] <Skanarchy> Hi, so I have dual monitors working with my laptop and an LCD screen. How do I get it so each monitor displays a different desktop, like desktop 1 and desktop 2. As opposed to one monitor simply extending onto another.
[03:40] <stoned> what has that got to do with 80C
[03:41] <stoned> Skanarchy: can't
[03:41] <redshadowhero> Well... 80C seems far too hot for room temp to me...
[03:41] <Skanarchy> oh?
[03:41] <stoned> not C
[03:41] <stoned> 80F
[03:41] <redshadowhero> Oh... thats better...
[03:41] <stoned> maybe 70F I can't tell its pretty cool tonight
[03:41] <Skanarchy> so extending a monitor is all you can do?
[03:41] <stoned> still my cpu is about 33C
[03:41] <stoned> thats not bad man
[03:42] <stoned> Skanarchy: yes
[03:42] <rrbiz> NFS someone familiar with it ?
[03:42] <Skanarchy> mmph, ok
[03:42] <stoned> Skanarchy: you can have two desktops on two monitors maybe with xinerama and by telling xorg.conf about two video cards and two monitors and adjust the ServerLayout section accordingly
[03:42] <redshadowhero> !NFS | rrbiz
[03:42] <ubotu> rrbiz: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:42] <stoned> Skanarchy: search google
[03:42] <Skanarchy> I have :p
[03:42] <Skanarchy> thats why I came in here
[03:43] <redshadowhero> rrbiz: is that what you are looking for?
[03:43] <stoned> people have found GOD by searching
[03:43] <stoned> im sure you can find this solution
[03:43] <Skanarchy> found a thread, *occupies self*
[03:43] <rrbiz> redshadowhero: perhaps, i'll read through that and find out, i'm just getting authentication errors, sharing from win to lin is never a prob, sharing from lin usually is
[03:44] <redshadowhero> rrbiz: hence, why I hate windows.
[03:45] <redshadowhero> Skanarchy: if you find anything on that, tell me; I may like to know that for my reference one day.
[03:45] <Skanarchy> yeah, Im expecting it to be pretty awesome <_<
[03:45] <rrbiz> redshadowhero: yeah going cold turkey today and throwing buntu on my 3 boxes, just gotta work out all the rough stuff
[03:46] <rrbiz> xp is super cake, but then super vulnerable
[03:46] <stoned> is there a way to clear whats been cached in the memory ?
[03:46] <stoned> I like XP
[03:46] <redshadowhero> Me, too.
[03:46] <NickPresta> I actually find things are harder to do in Windows. Especially when you want to customize something to fit your needs exactly.
[03:47] <redshadowhero> Vista is the one that I refuse to do anything with.
[03:47] <stoned> especially cleaned out with nlite and with stuff from virtualplastic and other goodies and opensource tools and stuff
[03:47] <redshadowhero> even at work.
[03:47] <stoned> its a solid stable OS
[03:47] <stoned> well
[03:47] <tripppy> im trying to get kaffene to use two tv tuners? i have one working.
[03:47] <stoned> as stable as can be
[03:47] <stoned> from ms
[03:47] <redshadowhero> stoned: which is not saying a lot.
[03:47] <rrbiz> trippy which tuner is that one ?
[03:48] <ubuntu> frqncqis iciM
[03:48] <tripppy> twinhan DVB-T (VP3020C)
[03:48] <ubuntu> francais ici
[03:48] <stoned> are there any widgets for kde?
[03:49] <NickPresta> !fr | ubuntu
[03:49] <stoned> looking for a good sysinfo panel for *karamba
[03:49] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:49] <redshadowhero> widgets? You mean like dashboard widgets/ms gadgets?
[03:49] <NickPresta> stoned, glass monitor
[03:49] <tripppy> the 2nd one is a asus U3000mini USB (STK7700)- which is not working
[03:49] <parsek_77> my external usb HDD (ntfs) does not mount automatically. how can I fix it?
[03:50] <parsek_77> do I need to edit fstab?
[03:51] <NickPresta> parsek_77, that would work, yes
[03:51] <stoned> ohhh thats a nice panel
[03:51] <parsek_77> NickPresta: but how?
[03:51] <redshadowhero> with pico, or kate, or something like that.
[03:51] <stoned> how does one edit/configure any karamba theme?
[03:52] <parsek_77> redshadowhero: I know, I mean, what to add
[03:52] <NickPresta> parsek_77, I have this in my fstab at the bottom: /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:52] <tripppy> rrbiz, twinhan DVB-T (VP3020C)
[03:52] <NickPresta> it works fine.
[03:52] <redshadowhero> parsek_77: oops... sorry...
[03:52] <tripppy> rrbiz, the 2nd one is a asus U3000mini USB (STK7700)- which is not working
[03:52] <NickPresta> stoned, download the source, find the python theme file and edit away.
[03:52] <rrbiz> ahhh twinhan, i'm tempted to buy one of them
[03:52] <parsek_77> NickPresta: it works for my windows too, but not for external usb
[03:52] <NickPresta> parsek_77, what is the path of your external usb?
[03:53] <rrbiz> trippy u got it opened up, with nagra2 or some'n ?
[03:53] <parsek_77> it is /dev/sdb1
[03:53] <NickPresta> and replacing the above with /dev/sdb1 doesn't work?
[03:53] <parsek_77> let me try again
[03:53] <NickPresta> does it work with `mount`?
[03:53] <parsek_77> yes
[03:54] <NickPresta> then it should work with fstab, somehow. It probably needs a little more tinkering.
[03:56] <mboso_> Is the kde.org website down?
[03:56] <mboso_> !topic
[03:56] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[03:57] <parsek_77> NickPresta: I corrected fstab, unplug and plug the HDD but no luck
[03:57] <tripppy> rrbiz: nagra2?
[03:58] <rrbiz> yeah not familiar with it though, how is the FTA channels ?
[03:58] <tripppy> rrbiz: FTA channels?
[03:59] <NickPresta> parsek_77, you have to mount the stuff in fstab. try this: `sudo mount -a`
[03:59] <NickPresta> and see if it's mounted
[04:00] <parsek_77> I think it worked
[04:00] <tripppy> hd is a bit choppy
[04:00] <NickPresta> parsek_77, =). If it did, then it should be mounted on startup...
[04:00] <parsek_77> NickPresta: how can I safely remove it,
[04:00] <tripppy> i think its my system tho. underspecced for tv
[04:00] <parsek_77> NickPresta: I don't use my external always
[04:01] <parsek_77> it doesn't need to mount at startup
[04:01] <NickPresta> parsek_77, it should be as easy as `sudo umount /path/to/mounted/device`
[04:01] <parsek_77> NickPresta: I see, but it's not automatic
[04:01] <rrbiz> tripppy: nevermind, thought it was a diff card
[04:02] <parsek_77> NickPresta: for my thumb drive, it shows an icon at desktop
[04:02] <NickPresta> parsek_77, i dont understand what you mean. if its in your fstab, it will be mounted automatically at startup. if you don't want that, don't put it in your fstab. mount it manually whenever you want it.
[04:03] <parsek_77> NickPresta: even if the drive is not plugged, how can it mount it?
[04:04] <NickPresta> parsek_77, I don't know. You could try right clicking on the desktop > Create New Link To Device > HDD. Play around in that window.
[04:04] <aldcor> aldcor
[04:05] <parsek_77> NickPresta: ok, thanks so much
[04:05] <NickPresta> No problem. I wasn't terribly helpful. I hope you find a solution to suit your needs.
[04:06] <parsek_77> I hope so
[04:07] <redshadowhero> I still wonder if there is a way of testing for a bot on here...
[04:07] <NickPresta> redshadowhero, #test
[04:08] <redshadowhero> NickPresta: I meant, testing for the presence of a bot on here.
[04:08] <redshadowhero> NickPresta: in this channel.
[04:10] <slacker403> how much ram does a default kubuntu use ?
[04:10] <Skanarchy> ok, im just going to stick with the extension thingy. But I have another question, how to get the laptop monitor as the main monitor, it always goes to the additional monitor.
[04:11] <NickPresta> slacker403, I was able to run Kubuntu (Edgy Eft) on a P3, 733Mhz with 256 of RAM without many slowdowns, if any. Almost all slowdowns were related to my processor anyways. What are your specs?
[04:11] <slacker403> 3 ghz 1 gb ram
[04:11] <redshadowhero> wow..
[04:12] <slacker403> BUT i have ot run something inda big on to pof that sooo
[04:12] <slacker403> i was really trying to keep it at a min
[04:12] <redshadowhero> that is more than sufficient, I would say....
[04:12] <NickPresta> well, does this thing you're running require processing power or tons of RAM?
[04:12] <NickPresta> if you're worried about RAM usage, use something like rat poison or something minimal and turn off all unneeded services.
[04:15] <uederfer> ok
[04:20] <tk> anyone that has access to the bot... this might be worth adding for people that have bluetooth questions
[04:20] <tk> http://wiki.tcl.tk/9112
[04:21] <tk> appears to have fixed my problem :)
[04:22] <ses59> i am looking at puppy modem dialer and wanted to know if anyone has tried this dialer program
[04:23] <ses59> it looks good on the site but wanted to make sure it would work with kubuntu
[04:23] <slacker403> i was just trying ot make a kubuntu light
[04:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Kubuntu Light... Isn't that an oxymoron?
[04:24] <slacker403> what do you mean ?
[04:24] <slacker403> i was saying trying ot make it as lgiht as possible
[04:25] <slacker403> no extra services etc just kde
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: about the lightest you'll get is if you use the alternate/server cd and install kde without all the kubuntu-desktop cruft
[04:25] <slacker403> i need kde though :p
[04:25] <slacker403> im saying keep it at the luightest with kde
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: you can install kde by itself, there is a seperate pkg for it
[04:26] <slacker403> im sure
[04:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> KDE is the heaviest DE out there. That's what I ment by "kubuntu light" being an oxymoron.
[04:26] <slacker403> but will that result in a better system / lighter ?
[04:26] <slacker403> or will just the default kubuntu beabou the same ?
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: kubuntu-desktop installs all kinds of useless (imho) stuff along with kde
[04:26] <slacker403> KDE is not the heaviest and is lighter then Gnome
[04:26] <slacker403> its how you configure it
[04:27] <slacker403> hitmanWilly, im really just owrieed about ram usegae not disk
[04:27] <slacker403> kde cna do around 80 mb
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: kde is going to suck RAM through a straw, period
[04:27] <slacker403> can be ran in 80 mb
[04:27] <slacker403> what do you mean ?
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: kde is a VERY heavy DE/wm
[04:28] <slacker403> still if kubuntu has 20 extera processesrunning in the background that could be a problem
[04:28] <slacker403> again i disagree since im very familiar with it ;)
[04:28] <slacker403> kde plus all the fancy stuff sure
[04:29] <vecina> anyone here know how i can decrypt -my- m4p files? (emphasis on -my- since im pissed at apple) I want to play them on linux
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> vecina: the only way i know of is to burn them to a CD through itunes and then rip it to another format
[04:30] <vecina> any idea why my itunes says neither of my burning drives are "recognizable by Itunes"?
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> vecina: the DRM on them makes them unusable under linux
[04:31] <vecina> everyone hates us
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> and we hate DRM :)
[04:31] <randy> Okay I have an odd question, Theres these little windows that pop open all the time and say "The KDE Window Manager" or "Conversation" How do I get rid of that? It keeps messing programs up.
[04:33] <NickPresta> randy, I don't know what you're talking about. Screenshot or more detail?
[04:33] <randy> ok gimmie a second
[04:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Can anyone recommend a good TV Tuner that works well under Linux? I'm thinking of getting one pretty soon, mainly so I can record some video game stuff.
[04:38] <draik> How do I convert mp3 to wma?
[04:38] <randy> NickPresta: http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6532/snapshot21gp7.jpg
[04:39] <randy> like the one at the top but they pop up all over, when someone msgs in IRC a little window pops up enxt to in on the menu on the bottom of the screen with the persons name and the message
[04:39] <randy> Also happens when any program pretty much does ANYTHING
[04:47] <elite101> does kubuntu have a firewall?
[04:47] <intelikey> iptables
[04:47] <elite101> what are they?
[04:47] <intelikey> and or ipchains
[04:48] <intelikey> !firewall
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:48] <elite101> lol i have this neat little code cor cmd prompt and i need like an acutal ip adress not the 192.168.... yeah i cant do it in kubuntu but just wondering
[04:48] <elite101> for*
[04:49] <elite101> it turns cmd into a messenger
[04:49] <intelikey> !find cmd
[04:49] <ubotu> Found: kjscmd, libcmd-ruby, libcmd-ruby1.8, libcmdparse-ruby, libcmdparse2-ruby (and 4 others)
[04:50] <randy>  http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6532/snapshot21gp7.jpg anyone know any idea how to get rid of those little windows?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> elite101: just remember its not setup by default
[04:50] <neusonce> how effective is  firestarter?
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> neusonce: as effective as you set it up to be
[04:51] <BluesKaj> dunno neusonce, been on linux for 18mos now ...haven't used it yet :)
[04:52] <neusonce> im a linux baby too
[04:52] <neusonce> only a few days
[04:52] <neusonce>  but i refuse ever to go back to windows
[04:52] <BluesKaj> err 18 months , not days
[04:52] <intelikey> the linux firewall capabilities are infinitly capable
[04:53] <neusonce> iv only being useing for a few days
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> neusonce: all linux "firewall" apps are just front ends for iptables/ipchains, the built in firewall
[04:54] <neusonce> im  LINUX BABY, im having a bitch of a time installing java  to you guys i must seem infantile
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> neusonce: unfortunately, im not really an expert on software firewalls, i generally have a router set up with a hardware one
[04:55] <BluesKaj> no, java and flash have been problematic on some setups lately , neusonce.
[04:55] <intelikey> hardware firewall ???   like pulling the plug ?
[04:55] <neusonce>  how effective are hardware firewalls aginst software
[04:55] <neusonce>  grrrrrrrrrr
[04:56] <BluesKaj> but it's my sacktime , so i'm off to the sandman...nite all , take care .
[04:56] <neusonce> iv done almost everything thats been asked of me and i still canot install java or flash
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, sorry, firmware would probably be a better term for it
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: in other words, the router's built in one
[04:57] <intelikey> yeah,  it's just code   wether in the bios of the router or in the kernel of the linux box  or some third party crap in windows
[04:57] <joe4288> hey guys whats up
[04:57] <randy>  http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6532/snapshot21gp7.jpg anyone know any idea how to get rid of those little windows?
[04:57] <joe4288> im having trouble with beryl
[04:58] <joe4288> i installed the newest nvidid driver
[04:58] <aldcor> aldcor
[04:58] <intelikey> !beryl | joe4288
[04:58] <ubotu> joe4288: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:58] <Fr0de> randy: do they only happen when you have Konversation running?
[04:58] <joe4288> (had some trouble because i used nvidia-gxl not nvidia new)
[04:58] <aldcor> aldcor
[04:58] <randy> they happen all the time
[04:58] <randy> whenever someone msgs me on gaim one pops up
[04:58] <randy> whenever im on the desktop one pops up
[04:58] <randy> whenever a program does anything one pops up
[04:59] <joe4288> well atleast beryll works for u
[04:59] <neusonce> dose dvd 9 to 5 have an inbuilt decryter?
[04:59] <randy> i tried setting the notifications to default but the settings dont save
[04:59] <joe4288> the second i logged in with beryl to boot at start up
[04:59] <joe4288> all i got a black screen
[04:59] <joe4288> period
[04:59] <neusonce> whats beryl
[04:59] <neusonce> ??
[04:59] <joe4288> it makes you desktop all 3d
[04:59] <Fr0de> randy: try renaming your .kde directory to .kde_old: 'mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old'
[04:59] <joe4288> well somthing like it its just preaty
[05:00] <intelikey> neusonce see ubotu above
[05:00] <Fr0de> randy: that should make all kde settings start from defaults again
[05:00] <joe4288> so what about me and my black screen?
[05:00] <joe4288> i think its a nvidia driver issue
[05:00] <Fr0de> randy: after renaming it, log out and in again
[05:00] <randy> okay
[05:01] <randy> lemme try that
[05:01] <joe4288> well thats asmuch as i could pick up from looking online
[05:01] <intelikey> joe4288 /join #ubuntu-effects
[05:01] <joe4288> ok
[05:01] <Fr0de> randy: beware that you might appear to lose settings
[05:01] <sergiu> hello
[05:01] <Fr0de> randy: which is why we're renaming, not deleting
[05:01] <sergiu> it is possible to install an .deb package with dependecy ?
[05:02] <Fr0de> sergiu: yep
[05:02] <sergiu> fr0de: how ?:)
[05:02] <Fr0de> sergiu: sudo dpkg -i <package> ; sudo apt-get -f install
[05:02] <intelikey> dpkg -i file.deb ;apt-get install -f    <<< sergiu as root
[05:02] <Fr0de> the dpkg command will fail, but the apt-get will get the deps, then install the .deb
[05:03] <intelikey> i'm eating,  i'm slow.
[05:03] <Fr0de> :P
[05:03] <intelikey> bon apiteete
[05:04] <sergiu> Fr0de:  sudo apt-get -f install <package> ?
[05:04] <intelikey> nope.
[05:04] <Fr0de> sergiu: hmm.. shouln't need package name
[05:04] <sergiu> ok
[05:04] <intelikey> not unless you want to dl it from the repos.   then yes.
[05:05] <Fr0de> what intelikey said! :P
[05:05] <ShockValue> ok, i ssh'd to this machine from work.. is there anyway for me to take over that ssh session from here?
[05:05] <sergiu> not it's download needed packages
[05:05] <sergiu> now
[05:05] <draik> How do I convert mp3 to wma? I need wma for my mobile phone
[05:05] <sergiu> then install it with sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:05] <Fr0de> ShockValue: did you run a screen session?
[05:06] <ShockValue> Fr0de:  a what? :)
[05:06] <sergiu> thanks
[05:06] <intelikey> !info screen | ShockValue
[05:06] <Fr0de> ShockValue: check out the 'screen' program, handy for ssh sessions - keeps the stuff you're doing alive, and can be taken over from a new connection
[05:06] <ubotu> shockvalue: screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 571 kB, installed size 980 kB
[05:06] <aldcor> aldcor
[05:07] <ShockValue> i suppose if i didnt run that first, then its pointless to install it now?
[05:07] <Fr0de> ShockValue: it won't let you take over a non-screen ssh session, no
[05:08] <intelikey> search "-nohup"
[05:08] <randy> THANK YOU THOSE DAMN WINDOWS ARE GONE!
[05:09] <Fr0de> randy: :D
[05:09] <intelikey> !language | randy but;
[05:09] <ubotu> randy but;: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <randy> sorry >_>
[05:09] <randy> Was just overjoyed there for a moment
[05:10] <dotz> hi i have a memory stick pro duo which i put into my laptop.. how to open it in kubuntu?
[05:10] <Fr0de> dotz: did you try plugging it in?
[05:10] <dotz> nothing happens after i plug in
[05:11] <Fr0de> dotz: and it works ok in other OSes?
[05:11] <slacker403> how big is a server install once installed ?
[05:12] <intelikey> less than 400m
[05:12] <elite101> i have a friend using online irc and i am in this channel #elitechannel and he is in the same one but it says on either no ones there?
[05:12] <intelikey> iirc
[05:12] <elite101> is there diffrent ports?
[05:12] <Fr0de> slacker403: but depends on what you install, of course
[05:12] <dotz> yeah..in windows it will pop out open folder to view files
[05:12] <intelikey> slacker403 best i recall 38?m
[05:12] <Fr0de> dotz: did you have to install any drivers in windows?
[05:13] <slacker403> huh?
[05:13] <hayden_> anyone know why no icons are showing inside openoffice on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:13] <Fr0de> slacker403: 380-390 MB, I think intelikey means.. :)
[05:13] <elite101> will diffrent IRC's know everychannel so it doesnt matter wich one u use?
 how big is a server install once installed ?  <<<< ><intelikey> slacker403 best i recall "three houndred eighty something megabytes
[05:14] <dotz> i don't remember i have to install drivers.. or maybe it is self installed
[05:14] <dotz> anyway, how do i check if the laptop has detected the card?
[05:14] <Fr0de> dotz: in a terminal, type 'lspci' and 'lsusb'
[05:14] <elite101> how do i change and IRC so its not on queit mode??
[05:15] <elite101> sorry offtopic
[05:15] <slacker403> ah thanks
[05:15] <slacker403> when i have a server install could i then install kde for a bare install + kde without all the useless stuff ?
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: yup
[05:16] <dotz> 02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI7420 CardBus Controller <-- is it this?
[05:17] <slacker403> hitmanWilly, sounds good
[05:17] <dotz> its a sandisk memory duo pro card
[05:17] <Fr0de> dotz: is that from lspci or lsusb?
[05:18] <Fr0de> dotz: can you paste the output of both for me?
[05:18] <Fr0de> !paste
[05:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <intelikey> slacker403 be advised that "kde" is a meta package that depends on "almost every kde specific app"   you may want kde-core
[05:18] <dotz> okay
[05:19] <intelikey> slacker403 at any rate you will want x-windowsystem-core    a meta package that will get xorg up and going for you.
[05:19] <intelikey> x-window-system-core     i forget which.
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i would think kde-core would depend on that
[05:20] <intelikey> hitmanWilly but it doesnt'
[05:20] <slacker403> intelikey, if i install the kubuntu-desktop package or w/e
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> wow, that's dumb...
[05:20] <slacker403> will that install whats needed
[05:21] <intelikey> slacker403 without the kubuntu-desktop   that depends on everything that the liveCD would install
[05:21] <dotz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31031/
[05:21] <intelikey> and the name is.  x-window-system-core - X Window System core components
[05:21] <slacker403> hmm damn
[05:21] <slacker403> i just want a bare regualr install with KDE trying to keep things light as possible within reason
[05:21] <intelikey> if you want light weight you want that ^ plus some DE
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: that's xorg, not xfree, right?
[05:22] <intelikey> hitmanWilly right
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: k, just never had to install X outright on a buntu system before
[05:22] <Fr0de> dotz: any other usb devices (other than the key) plugged in?
[05:23] <intelikey> slacker403 it sounds like you want the server install plus x-window-system-core pluse kde-base + kde-core
[05:23] <slacker403> sounds good
[05:23] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i have several times now.  and you definitly want x-window-system-core
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: gotcha, its xorg-xserver over here in gentoo land :)
[05:25] <intelikey> slacker403 i normally default to installing   server install then add  x-window-system-core blackbox and some cli apps that i use regularly.
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: or vice-versa, can't remember off the top of my head
[05:25] <dotz> yes, my mouse..
[05:25] <dotz> do i have to reboot in order to see the memory stick?
[05:25] <Fr0de> dotz: shouldn't need to
[05:25] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah there is a meta package xserver-xorg  but that alone isn't quite enough for a satisfactory x server
[05:26] <rrbiz> damn, i miss gui-everything in MS, resorting to console often is a drag
[05:26] <dotz> i'm using kubuntu edgy 6.06
[05:26] <stdin> hitmanWilly: i find the best way to get X in ubuntu (eg in the server edition) is to just do: apt-get install xorg
[05:26] <dotz> maybe some modules not installed?
[05:26] <Fr0de> dotz: looks like only one device (the mouse, I guess) is being reported by your usb card
[05:26] <intelikey> dotz edgy is not 6.6
[05:26] <Fr0de> dotz: dapper is 6.06
[05:27] <slacker403> intelikey, apt correct ?
[05:27] <dotz> the card reader is an internal buildin the laptop type so i couldn't see the model
[05:27] <Fr0de> dotz: I recommend you move to feisty
[05:27] <dotz> sorry edgy
[05:27] <intelikey> slacker403 sudo apt-get install whatever
[05:27] <intelikey> slacker403 some like aptitude better...
[05:27] <intelikey> but ! i
[05:27] <Fr0de> dotz: at least try a live cd of feisty, see if the card is recognised
[05:28] <slacker403> yea well
[05:28] <slacker403> will do that intelikey  hopefully it wont pack in to much garbage
[05:28] <slacker403> or any extra stuff running
[05:30] <intelikey> slacker403 after any apt command you can read the list of things it wants to install/remove before you give it the go-ahead
[05:31] <Fr0de> intelikey: unless it's a single package with no deps.. ;)
[05:31] <intelikey> then you have typed the list
[05:31] <dotz> i read something it says it need this module usb-uhci and usb-storage .. and so i try modprobe usb-storage
[05:31] <dotz> and modprobe usb-uhci says usb-uhci not found.. how can i get this module? apt-get ?
[05:32] <intelikey> hey guys quick Q   will a USR usb modem work in linux   or are they also winmodems ?
[05:32] <stdin> I believe it's called uhci-hcd dotz
[05:33] <dotz> ok
[05:36] <tk> bleh, bluetooth still isnt auto connecting :(
[05:37] <hatter> can anyone point to a document on the web on why ubuntu uses sudo and disables root ?
[05:37] <intelikey> correction  'really slow' Q   will a USR usb modem work in linux   or are they also winmodems ?
[05:37] <intelikey> !root | hatter
[05:37] <ubotu> hatter: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:38] <dotz> i believe i need usb-uhci (not sure why) but its not there.. anyone knows how to get it?
[05:38] <tk> intelikey: any wise words about bluetooth and auto connecting to peripherals?
[05:38] <chaotic_> hey   i have to overwrite  something  in the /etc  directory and its on the desktop
[05:38] <chaotic_> how do i do that
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> hatter: its easy enough to turn it back on
[05:38] <intelikey> tk i dont have anything with blue teeth
[05:38] <chaotic_> hellanzb.cong
[05:38] <chaotic_> .conf
[05:39] <Fr0de> chaotic_: sudo cp ~/Desktop/itme /etc/subdir/item
[05:39] <Fr0de> item :)
[05:39] <hatter> hitmanWilly, yes i know, i do this,  i am trying to understand how its better not to, i just find it annoying
[05:39] <hatter> after using linux for years, it becomes a pain to sudo in front of everything
[05:39] <tk> hatter: sudo -s
[05:40] <Fr0de> hatter: make a password for root: sudo passwd root
[05:40] <varaonaid> hi, i don't seem to be able to view any websites that use javascript.  i keep getting an error saying that i have missing plugins (java runtime environment) but I have it installed as well as the java plugin.
[05:40] <elite101> is there Xchat for kubuntu?
[05:40] <varaonaid> i tried to reinstall it and got a message saying that java6plugin is already installed and set to manual install
[05:40] <Fr0de> varaonaid: javascript is not java
[05:40] <tk> varaonaid: javascript has nothign to do with java other than the first 4 letters of javascript
[05:40] <varaonaid> what does that mean?
[05:40] <hatter> Fr0de, yes, i am aware of this, i am trying to understand the reasoning of sudo by default
[05:41] <stdin> elite101: just install xchat, it works in KDE and Gnome
[05:41] <Fr0de> hatter: no password guesser will go straight to the root account
[05:41] <intelikey> hatter if you want a root password just set one.   it's your computer and your operating system (unlike M$ crap that you never own)
[05:41] <elite101> stdin: okay where do i do that
[05:41] <stdin> hatter: helps if you run sshd, trust me
[05:41] <elite101> adept
[05:41] <stdin> elite101: yeah, or apt, your choice
[05:41] <hatter> i run sshd, and disable root login, but thats different to typing sudo at every command
[05:42] <stdin> hatter: sudo -i  gives you a root shell
[05:42] <stdin> hatter: also sudo su - would work
[05:42] <Fr0de> hatter: I do 'sudo su -' if I have a lot of root work to do
[05:42] <varaonaid> Fr0de, tk: my mistake... i can't view sites that use java.  even though ihave java runtime installed and the plugin as well, i still get the error and don't understand what it meant that the plugin was set to manual install
[05:42] <hatter> i agree we can add a root password,  i am just wondering why sudo is default, if there is any great security increase
[05:42] <K-Ryan> How can I set a user not able to use sudo?
[05:42] <stdin> there really is no need for a regular user to "login" as root from the get go
[05:42] <K-Ryan> Well, remove root privaledges in its whole.
[05:42] <hatter> 'sudo su -' is a good idea, i will do this
[05:43] <intelikey> hatter and indeed i have to agree with stdin on that, if you run sshd either you don't want a root passwd or you don't want to allow root login or you want a really good root password.  one of the three
[05:43] <Fr0de> !sudo
[05:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <chaotic_> sudo cp ~/Desktop/Hellanzb.conf /etc/Hellanzb.conf
[05:43] <chaotic_> cp: cannot stat `/home/chaotic/Desktop/Hellanzb.conf': No such file or directory
[05:43] <Fr0de> the /etc/sudoers file where you set perms for who can sudo, iirc
[05:44] <hatter> intelikey, well you would never allow direct root login across the net with ssh, but once you are in , you may as well have root
[05:44] <chaotic_> hey frode what am i supposed  to do
[05:44] <Fr0de> chaotic_: then it's not on your desktop.. :P
[05:45] <intelikey> hatter i disagree.  remote adminestration can be very useful    it all depends on what you do and where you do it...
[05:45] <Fr0de> chaotic_: open a konqueror window, navigate to the folder with the item, then hit F4
[05:45] <Fr0de> chaotic_: then sudo cp <item> /etc/<path>/<item
[05:45] <hatter> intelikey, remote administration is essential,  i am saying when you get there you still need to be root
[05:45] <gandhiii> got a newbie question that has probably been asked a billion times.  trying to install nvidia drivers..  but it told me i was missing libc..   i'm looking at adept now.. and it shows libc6 is installed..  if not that .. which of these libc similar packages are being asked for by the nvidia drivers?
[05:45] <aldcor> aldcor
[05:46] <intelikey> hatter if sudo works locally it will work for ssh connections too
[05:46] <hatter> intelikey, yes. I dont understand why i would want to type sudo in front of each command.
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Removing root privaledges anyone?
[05:47] <hatter> i think its a good idea for multiuser auditing but i am not understanding why it used on a single user system
[05:47] <stdin> K-Ryan: they can only use sudo if they are in the admin group or explicitly in the /etc/sudoers file
[05:47] <intelikey> hatter and some people think "well a hacker/cracker will never know my login name so my password is ok"   then the same idiot logs into an irc network with their user name....      like DUH  where do you think the cracker is going to look for victoms anyway ???
[05:47] <stdin> hatter: think of it from the windows users perspective too, they are used to having the user be an "administrator" and logging in as that. they see the root user as the normal admin user and think "well, I'll just login as root all the time". that don't quite get the power of root and that it can be dangerous to be root if you aren't careful
[05:48] <chaotic_> thanks guys it worked
[05:49] <chaotic_> hey btw
[05:49] <hatter> stdin, i am hearing the 'dangerous' angle, but what is the difference with rm -fr / or sudo rm -fr / ?
[05:49] <chaotic_> how do i get firefox to load  konversation when i click an irc link
[05:49] <stdin> hatter: the 1st won't kill your whole system, the 2nd will
[05:49] <chaotic_> isnt it -rf
[05:49] <intelikey> the differance is with sudo you remove all data  without it you remove your personal data
[05:49] <stoned> chaotic_: helper applications
[05:50] <stdin> chaotic_: the order don't matter
[05:50] <chaotic_> ah
[05:50] <intelikey> chaotic_ order of the switches is bull
[05:50] <intelikey> null even
[05:50] <stdin> bull :p
[05:50] <intelikey> typo
[05:50] <chaotic_> so  u can use cp   as  well as -pc
[05:50] <intelikey> that's not a switch it's a command
[05:50] <stdin> chaotic_: no, just for the options (switches), not commands
[05:50] <chaotic_> ah
[05:51] <intelikey> and there are apps and switches that the order does matter on.  just not that one.
[05:52] <K-Ryan> What would I edit in /etc/sudoers to make just one account be able to have root privaledges?
[05:52] <stdin> K-Ryan: easiest way is to remove all the other users from the admin group
[05:52] <intelikey> general rule of thumb, if the switch requires an argument be appended  then the order is important, if it doesn't then it doesn't
[05:52] <stdin> K-Ryan: only the 1st user set up will be in there by default
[05:53] <K-Ryan> stdin: It says "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:53] <intelikey> K-Ryan or change the word  admin   to the user name
[05:53] <stdin> K-Ryan: yes, that means that the people in the group "admin" can use it
[05:53] <stdin> K-Ryan: just remove all other uses from the admin group in system settings
[05:54] <K-Ryan> stdin: Thanks, now to find that =)
[05:54] <intelikey> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL <<>> ryan ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:54] <stdin> that would work too ^
[05:55] <stdin> but sometimes it's easier to just add/remove a user from admin (for me). plus if you mess up the sudoers file you can break sudo
[05:55] <hatter> 'sudo su -'  gives me a root shell ?
[05:55] <intelikey> i like my sudoers file :)))
[05:55] <intelikey> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[05:55] <stdin> hatter: yes, or sudo -i
[05:55] <intelikey> hatter so does   sudo -i
[05:56] <tk> and sudo -s
[05:56] <hatter> gives me a root shell without entering a password ?
[05:56] <tk> but you gotta enter the current users pass with -s
[05:56] <stdin> hatter: no, you have to enter the pass once
[05:56] <stdin> tk: and with -i
[05:56] <hatter> the users pass ?
[05:56] <stdin> hatter: your password
[05:56] <intelikey> yes   even with the   sudo su -
[05:57] <stdin> there is a way to make sudo "passwordless" tho ;)
[05:57] <stdin> actually there are 2 ways
[05:57] <hatter> so if we also had a root password then which password would it require ?
[05:58] <intelikey> except i think ubuntu sets up a timmer on the sudo  so you don't enter the password but one time if you use sudo every so ofter       what 1 minute or something ?
[05:58] <wolferine> sudo su is root
[05:58] <hatter> is root without a second password
[05:58] <wolferine> second password?
[05:58] <hatter> ie if i login to one of my boxes via ssh, i login with a user, then i have to su to root and enter a second password
[05:59] <dr_willis> hatter,  better to use 'sudo -s' or was it sudo -i
[05:59] <hatter> so if my first login were compromised i still would get root access with it
[05:59] <dr_willis> of course i tend to use 'sux'
[05:59] <hatter> 'still woudnt'
[05:59] <wolferine> sux :)
[05:59] <dr_willis> They would have to guess/hack your users  NAME, and then their password.
[05:59] <hatter> so what i am getting at is,  the sudo user has only 1 password level to get root access
[06:00] <intelikey> hatter well   if you like "exotic"  i have a totally passwordless system
[06:00] <dr_willis> the fact a haxor dont know you rusers name is another level of security.
[06:00] <dr_willis> the use of sudo is also there to protect the user from theirselfs. :)
[06:00] <stdin> hatter: sudo and su aren't just for root, you can do "su user" to login as "user", then you'd enter the password for "user"
[06:00] <hatter> intelikey, yes, using keys, but you still need a passphrase ?
[06:00] <intelikey> dr_willis unless you login to an irc server with your user name
[06:00] <stdin> hatter: but with "sudo su user" you'd enter your password
[06:00] <hatter> but is the passphrase useless without the key ?
[06:01] <intelikey> hatter no.
[06:01] <intelikey> hatter i mean a totally passwordless system.   all accounts are locked.
[06:01] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :) we never do that! :0
[06:01] <dr_willis> heh.
[06:01] <hatter> intelikey, but you still have a passphrase ?
[06:02] <intelikey> passwd -dl 'all users'
[06:02] <intelikey> hatter no.
[06:02] <dr_willis> totally passwordless , just hit enter. :)
[06:02] <intelikey> dr_willis exactly
[06:02] <hatter> so if i got your key i would have access
[06:02] <intelikey> there is no key
[06:02] <hatter> passwordless is using an rsa key
[06:02] <intelikey> no
[06:03] <intelikey> not here
[06:03] <VerWolF> Hi people. Where can i add russian translation for ktorrent 2.2?? Can u help me?
[06:03] <hatter> no rsa key and no passwords ?  what is your ip address ;)
[06:03] <dr_willis> hatter,  <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:03] <dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <hatter> :)
[06:03] <intelikey> hatter look it up.  but sshd isn't running anyway
[06:04] <hatter> ok, so we are offtopic,  we were talking of security ?
[06:04] <intelikey> hatter yeah and security is offtopic
[06:04] <hatter> ok
[06:05] <stdin> unless you ask "how can I secure my box", then it's on-topic :p
[06:05] <hatter> i think sudo is a definite ubuntu topic :)
[06:06] <intelikey> for this long maybe
[06:06] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <Dark_alex> hello
[06:06] <intelikey> there you go  ^
[06:06] <dr_willis> Jello!
[06:06] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> hey dark alex
[06:06] <Dark_alex> hey
[06:06] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> hows it going?
[06:06] <Dark_alex> good
[06:06] <stdin> :p
[06:06] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> lol
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> diablo too
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> its elite
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> 101
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> Dark alex is my other Xchatter lol
[06:07] <stdin> elite? you mean 133T?
[06:07] <hatter> ok i have a new question,  my kubuntu menu is on the right hand side of the screen, however the menus appear directly over the top of the icons, making it painful to navigate the menus , any ideas ?
[06:07] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:07] <doctorow> When I put my Feisty Kubuntu Lenovo X60 to sleep and wake it up again in a different location, it doesn't see the local WiFi networks -- the network selector in the Kubuntu toolbar only shows the networks from the location I was in when I put the machine to sleep. Any ideas for getting it to refresh that list?
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> its not a real person just me but im gonna change my nick its too long
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> yeah
[06:07] <elite101> there
[06:08] <elite101> lol
[06:08] <intelikey> 1337 57d1n
[06:08] <hatter> that is when i move the mouse over the menus, the menus appear directly on top of the menu bar
[06:08] <elite101> i had to use xchat to help a friend join a channel so i made a fake account and started talking
[06:08] <magor666> wow alot of people use kubuntu
[06:08] <intelikey> or |337 57d1n
[06:08] <elite101> this is magor666 (curently running windows) :(
[06:08] <elite101> !windows
[06:08] <hatter> how do you like that.  now they arent.
[06:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:09] <magor666> lfmao
[06:09] <elite101> magor enter #psp-programming
[06:09] <hatter> oh yes they do.  after i have selected the 'k' icon for instance, the first menu appears directly above obfuscating the others
[06:11] <intelikey> when in a gui...
[06:11] <doctorow> What is the keyboard shortcut for screenshots in Kubuntu?
[06:12] <intelikey> print screen ?
[06:12] <dr_willis> intelikey,  thats too logical. :)
[06:12] <intelikey> :)))
[06:12] <doctorow> intelikey Do you know where the image file would go?
[06:12] <intelikey> in your home dir
[06:12] <dr_willis> doctorow,  it loads up a program I do belive
[06:13] <dr_willis> Using gnome at the moment.. *ghasp* :) it loads a dialog asking where to save to. but not suire on kde.
[06:13] <doctorow> dr_willis Any suggestions for troubleshooting if that doesn't work?
[06:13] <dr_willis> doctorow,  use any of a dozen+ screen grabber tools out there.
[06:13] <doctorow> dr_willis I'm trying to work around a bug in ksnapshot
[06:13] <vn-> hi, anyone knows the name of the non free nvidia drivers on kubuntu?
[06:13] <vn-> the package name
[06:13] <intelikey> doctorow last i looked there was a menu itom "take a screen shot"
[06:14] <dr_willis> gimp can grab screens also,
[06:14] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:14] <dr_willis> vn-,  nvidia-glx i do belive.
[06:14] <vn-> danke
[06:14] <dr_willis> but its best to read that bot url it juat gave
[06:14] <dr_willis> i always install that 'restricted-manager' program to isntall those thingss
[06:14] <doctorow> dr_willis by using KDE's built-in screen-grabber. The bug is that when I foreground a video window (VLC, Democracy, Kaffeine, Totem) and press New Snapshot in Ksnapshot, the video-player BLANKS OUT the video!
[06:14] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:15] <dr_willis> the video player is using some sort of special mode i belive, to get faster displays on the X display.
[06:15] <psyk0ninja> how do you change the default browser for rssnewsreader in superkaramba?
[06:15] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:15] <dr_willis> Ive seen similer 'issues' in other ways with video players also.
[06:15] <doctorow> dr_willis Any ideas for working around this?
[06:15] <doctorow> dr_willis I want to get a screenshot from a video
[06:15] <dr_willis> doctorow,  not really worried about it much. :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> most video players have a screencapture feature.
[06:15] <dr_willis> im sure vlc and xine can do it.
[06:16] <dr_willis> you might need to set up the keybindings however
[06:16] <intelikey> yeah use the app to save a frame of the vidio
[06:16] <elite101> #psp-progamming
[06:16] <dr_willis> Ive used it befor to get some screen shots for  wallpaper
[06:16] <intelikey> oh sorry too logical again ?
[06:16] <doctorow> dr_willis VLC doesn't have such a mode, nor Kaffeine. Do you remember which program you used?
[06:17] <dr_willis> im pretty suyre VLC does have a screen grab featuire
[06:17] <slacker403> anyways to make kubuntu + kde to run more light etc ?
[06:18] <intelikey> run lighter ?   kill un-needed/un-wanted processes and remove their startup linkx from /etc/rc2.d/
[06:18] <doctorow> dr_willis If VLC has one, it's not in any of the menus
[06:18] <dr_willis> vlc -------> video ----> snapshot
[06:18] <dr_willis> it does to0....
[06:18] <dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <intelikey> and maybe form /etc/rcS.d/  also
[06:19] <dr_willis> vlcsnap-7792694.png  vlcsnap-7792729.png  vlcsnap-7792762.png
[06:19] <intelikey> config kde to run only what you want it to run at startup also helps
[06:19] <vn-> thanks dr_willis got my stuff working =)
[06:19] <doctorow> dr_willis -- Thanks -- I'm going to reinstall VLC cuz that menu isn't there for me.
[06:20] <intelikey> doc your a bad influnce on me...     ;/      i'm twice the smart elic when you agg it on....
[06:21] <dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <dr_willis> i wonder if i got my vlc set for 'advanced' mode..
[06:22] <intelikey> prolly   can't see why you wouldn't have it that way
[06:22] <slacker403> what is your guys KDE + kubuntu use ram wise as  default ?
[06:23] <intelikey> slacker403 heh   95%  no matter how much you have
[06:23] <slacker403> i meant how much is actually being used but yea
[06:23] <NightBird> yeah.... my install uses most of my ram, but it's largely in file cache...
[06:23] <slacker403> that cache'ing gets kinda decieving
[06:23] <intelikey> got 64m it uses 95%     got 2g  it uses 95%
[06:24] <intelikey> slacker403 indeed.
[06:24] <slacker403> i can get my windows to run like 60 mb
[06:24] <NightBird> like a good third is cache... the remaining 2/3rds rougly is in use... and that's with 256 mb of ram.... maybe..
[06:24] <slacker403> ram
[06:24] <slacker403> although it does not cache
[06:24] <intelikey> my actual ram usage right now (x isn't running)  Used/Free: 8/241
[06:24] <elite101> wow
[06:25] <slacker403> they say kde adds about 80 without all the special features
[06:25] <elite101> lol im on KDE
[06:25] <slacker403> huh?
[06:25] <slacker403> this is kubuntu so i kinda expect that ;)
[06:25] <intelikey> slacker403 heh  i can run kde in a 64m p1 box
[06:25] <yotsuya> I have problems setting up my keyboard layout - it keeps resetting from "Russian" to "Unknown"
[06:26] <slacker403> KDE 4 and koffice 2.0 will mark a new line of accomplishment
[06:26] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:26] <intelikey> so i don't think kde takes quite 80m of ram
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: i wouldn't assume that if I were you :)
[06:26] <slacker403> huh ?
[06:26] <slacker403> oh ah
[06:26] <slacker403> :p
[06:26] <slacker403> intelikey, i guess it all depends on how you set it up too
[06:27] <intelikey> slacker403 yeah  ubuntu has to be tweeked just a little to run in a 64m box      the install is the tricky part really.
[06:27] <slacker403> tweaked in what way ?
[06:28] <slacker403> 2ndly anyone here ever use Virtual Box ?
[06:28] <intelikey> clip out some of the things it defaults to run   too lighten the load
[06:28] <slacker403> defaults to run ?
[06:29] <slacker403> when i install my kubuntu-server  will it default anything ? lol
[06:29] <dr_willis> slacker403,  ive had much better luck with Vmware-server, then virtualbox
[06:29] <intelikey> hald udev and some other things that "they say" you need,  you know just common sense
[06:29] <slacker403> dr_willis, wow
[06:29] <slacker403> virtual server is about 10x faster then vmware server
[06:29] <chaotic_> do u guys know wheres teh queue directory  for hellannzb
[06:29] <dr_willis> I mainly test it with live cd.. virtual box dont work with a lot of them
[06:29] <dr_willis> ive never noticed virtualbox being that much faster running the other os's ive played with.
[06:30] <slacker403> i run virtual box from within linux and use a windows guest
[06:30] <dr_willis> but then again. ive not benchmarked the sttuff much. :)
[06:30] <slacker403> it gets 90 percent of perforamcne
[06:30] <slacker403> as if i was running  it on the real system
[06:30] <dr_willis> Ihad the wife set up wth a xp box, with vmware, with win95 in vmware for her. :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> so she couldent hirt the system
[06:30] <slacker403> hmmmmm
[06:31] <slacker403> vmware is much slower my friend
[06:31] <intelikey> wouldn't matter   win95 will fly on a p1
[06:31] <slacker403> virtualbox can use video drivers on the real system and network of the real system not some emulated stuff where it knocks the performance down
[06:31] <slacker403> all the executed code is sent directly to the processor again not emulated
[06:32] <slacker403> i used win95 fora long time i know ;)
[06:32] <slacker403> pentium 155 mhz worked great
[06:33] <intelikey> all the bull crap M$ churns out about "fastest windows ever"  is hardware dependant.    they expect you to run in on progressicely faster systems so you don't notice how much slower the system is than the previous one
[06:33] <intelikey> or in short     they lie
[06:33] <slacker403> MS is fine
[06:33] <slacker403> its all marketing ;)
[06:33] <slacker403> but i do wish they made photoshop for linux
[06:34] <intelikey> no   lie = lie        not    marketing = lie
[06:34] <slacker403> but it wont happen anytime soon i dont think
[06:34] <slacker403> not enough of a market
[06:35] <intelikey> well i'll rethink that.   M$ marketing == lie     yeah  you may have a point...
[06:35] <slacker403> well whatever
[06:35] <slacker403> MS makes solid products
[06:35] <slacker403> their server stuff is actually really good *if* you need it
[06:35] <slacker403> i use inux
[06:35] <intelikey> M$ owns you   not me.
[06:35] <slacker403> linux
[06:36] <slacker403> but by no means is thier stuff bad
[06:36] <slacker403> MS virtual server is really nice
[06:36] <elite101> help someone is floodinf a channel and the admin is not awake!!! :(
[06:36] <intelikey> your openion  not mine.
[06:36] <slacker403> linux  can open more options though
[06:36] <intelikey> elite101 ignore them.
[06:36] <elite101> okay
[06:37] <intelikey> elite101 /ignore uesrname@*
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> easiest way to fix channel spam :P
[06:37] <intelikey> elite101 but if you   /ignore *@*   it will get really quiet  :)
[06:38] <yotsuya> Help with skim, anyone?
[06:39] <Agent_bob> Agent_137 :)
[06:40] <Agent_137> Agent bob!
[06:40] <yotsuya> It keeps resetting to "Unknown"
[06:40] <Agent_137> WHile the new Get Smart movie is not the source of my alias, i'm excited nonetheless.
[06:40] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:41] <Agent_bob> lol
[06:41] <Agent_bob> i didn't even know there was a new "get smart"  but i liked the old show when i was a kid
[06:41] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:42] <Agent_bob> daavis what give dude ?
[06:43] <Agent_137> yea, i loved the old show. you know the get smart guy was also the voice for inspector gadget (the old cartoon, not the movie)
[06:43] <Agent_bob> yes indeed
[06:44] <Agent_bob> wait i have to answer my shoe
[06:44] <Agent_bob> i guess he was the first guy to have a cell phone
[06:45] <Agent_bob> maxwell smart  i mean
[06:45] <Agent_137> hahah
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> remember a few years back when they tried to bring that show back?
[06:47] <Agent_bob> but the coolest cat ever   had to be the work of "blake edwards"
[06:47] <Agent_bob> hitmanWilly i didn't know they did
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> Agent_bob: not surprised, it lasted all of like 3 episodes and royally sucked
[06:48] <Agent_bob> lol
[06:48] <Agent_bob> then i'm glad i missed it
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> oh well, screw it, ill play along
[06:49] <Agent_86> :)
[06:49] <Agent_bob> but you fellows are way behind really   i have had this nick registered for years now.
[06:50] <Agent_bob> na na nana na     </ticks out tongue>  :P
[06:50] <Agent_86> yeah, yeah, yeah...
[06:52] <Agent_bob> i wish someone would ask a linux question   and save us from further imbarisment
[06:52] <Agent_86> ok, back to normal mode now
[06:52] <dsmith> haha
[06:52] <dr_willis> :)
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: probably, if its a ppc architecture
[06:53] <dr_willis> yea - but  i havent seen any mention of that yet.
[06:53] <intelikey> dr_willis at least the tux ....
[06:53] <dr_willis> AppleTV isent ppc. apple' are not PPC any more :)
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah, they're x86 now like everyone else
[06:54] <dr_willis> but every time i hear mention of linux on a Apple, they always talk about that virtual thinggie. :)
[06:54] <dr_willis> Just looking for my next pc. :)  a little appletv/linux box would be amuseing.
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> heh, even sun is doing x86 now
[06:55] <chaotic_> just get a mac mini lol
[06:55] <intelikey> something wrong with the present box ?
[06:55] <Viking667> Good evening. I'm looking for information on rebuilding the kde menus, except I can't find what I'm needing.
[06:56] <intelikey> kmenueditor
[06:56] <dsmith> right clikc on the K and click on meni editor
[06:56] <intelikey> or kmenuedit
[06:56] <dsmith> *menu editor
[06:56] <dr_willis> intelikey,  its like 4+ yrs old. and slowly dieing off. :)
[06:57] <Viking667> no, you aren't getting me. I've already seen that, and it doesn't rebuild the entirety of apps under /usr/share/menu
[06:57] <intelikey> dr_willis hmm  then should i replace my 12 year old stuff   it's 3X that
[06:57] <dr_willis> intelikey,  ive slowly been getting rid of my old junk. :)
[06:58] <dr_willis> trying to consolidate the things i dont need.
[06:58] <Viking667> i.e. there's a stack of stuff under /usr/share/menu, some gets included, some doesn't and there's no real indication of what KDE is supposed to pull in.
[06:58] <Viking667> i.e. I am supposed to have a Gnome submenu, but I don't.
[06:58] <Viking667> I'm supposed to have a entry for "xpenguins" under "Games/Toys", but again, I don't.
[06:59] <intelikey> Viking667 tried installing  menu ?
[06:59] <Viking667> intelikey: I'll have a look at that, it seems to have been missed off this box.
[06:59] <dr_willis> gnome submenu? hmm - i dont recall seeing that.
[07:00] <dsmith> all my gnome apps have always intermixed with my kde ones
[07:00] <Viking667> well, I've got gnome applications that don't turn up in the menu... sorry to bang on about it
[07:00] <Viking667> heh.
[07:00] <intelikey> Viking667 it makes the 'debian' submenu that will include those things
[07:00] <Viking667> ahh, I see now.
[07:00] <draik> Does the Ubuntu server have a GUI?
[07:00] <dsmith> no
[07:00] <dr_willis> draik,  if you count the console.. :)
[07:01] <dsmith> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> draik the server install    no
[07:01] <Viking667> right. So apps get mixed in. where does the user rebuild his/her/its menus from?
[07:01] <dsmith> cmdline GUI
[07:01] <draik> How do I manager anything?
[07:01] <dsmith> SUDO
[07:01] <Viking667> err, that's not a GUI as such.
[07:01] <Viking667> draik: hah! Like I do - by memorising about a hundred commands.
[07:01] <dsmith> sudo this and sudo that...
[07:01] <dr_willis> learn to use the shell. :)
[07:02] <dr_willis> or find some fancy frontend tools.
[07:02] <intelikey> draik manager whaty ?
[07:02] <draik> Is there a good book?
[07:02] <dsmith> oh toss in rm, mkdir and mv
[07:02] <intelikey> !cli
[07:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:02] <dr_willis> 'using bash' by Oreialy.
[07:02] <pedro> okay, so if used automatix to install things, but then removed all that software using automatix, then uninstalled automatix AND removed its repos, is there even a *HINT* of a chance of that screwing up my system when i do, say, a dist-upgrade or something?
[07:02] <dr_willis> is a must get. :)
[07:02] <dr_willis> pedro,  sadly YES...
[07:02] <intelikey> http://www.tldp.org
[07:02] <pedro> noooooooooooo!!!
[07:02] <pedro> i didnt want to hear that
[07:02] <Viking667> also, Linux in a nutshell (by O'Reilly)
[07:02] <neusonce> i hate windows, if programs ever become self aware windows would be like a jew walking in to nazi germany.
[07:03] <dr_willis> pedro,  but i will admit that i RARELY upgrade. i tend to keep /home on its own drive. and do clean reinstalls.
[07:03] <pedro> me too
[07:03] <dsmith> pedro: do clean reinstalls
[07:03] <pedro> yeah
[07:03] <pedro> erm... thought that was a question
[07:03] <Viking667> I've got a copy of UNIX in a nutshell, and it's been one of my most useful books
[07:03] <pedro> anyway, is it safe to say that i am at least safe for now?
[07:04] <intelikey> draik rute-book
[07:04] <intelikey> !info rute-book
[07:04] <intelikey> !info rutebook
[07:04] <ubotu> Package rute-book does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:04] <ubotu> rutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (feisty), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB
[07:04] <dr_willis> Viking667,  i got several old copies of that. :)
[07:04] <elite101> how do i download from a fttp:// site? it shows a folder's and files for DSL do i just copy and paste to desktop??
[07:05] <dr_willis> elite101,  ya could..
[07:05] <dr_willis> or drag/drop
[07:05] <elite101> so it can work like that
[07:05] <dr_willis> thats one way to do it..
[07:05] <intelikey> or wget    or even use    ftp
[07:05] <dr_willis> wget might be a better way
[07:05] <elite101> but it reads all the files as being 9.7gb and its DSL linux :S
[07:05] <Viking667> dr_willis: lol. of which? I seem to have the 1994 version (featured Solaris 2.0!!)
[07:05] <elite101> i dont even have that big of a hdd
[07:05] <neusonce> god i love ubuntu, i just wish  java would work.
[07:06] <Viking667> hrm? It doesn't for you?
[07:06] <intelikey> !java | neusonce you did read this ?
[07:06] <ubotu> neusonce you did read this ?: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:06] <elite101> well i got everything working now just expermenting some distro's
[07:06] <dr_willis> Viking667,  i always get my linux books on the bargin bins. :) they are out of date befor i even get them home
[07:06] <Viking667> dr_willis: ewww.
[07:07] <elite101> lol
[07:07] <dr_willis> but the Fundamentals are still the same.
[07:07] <elite101> or Linux for Dummies?
[07:07] <elite101> is that good
[07:07] <dr_willis> any book with 'dummies' or 'idiot' in the title - is not worth taking home
[07:07] <Viking667> It's ironic - the biggest book wife bought for me, was the one I used the least. The smallest computer book she bought, is the one I've used the most.
[07:07] <Viking667> elite101: be wary of those books.
[07:07] <elite101> why?
[07:07] <Viking667> they're more "monkey see, monkey do" books...
[07:07] <elite101> i have the whole series
[07:07] <elite101> lol
[07:07] <intelikey> dr_willis yeah generally should read   writen by *
[07:08] <elite101> no i dont
[07:08] <dr_willis> intelikey,  when they discuss how to upgrade from the 1.0 to 2.0 kernel... :) its a bad sign
[07:08] <Viking667> i.e. see what's on this screen, type that in, and wow cool, you're a guru
[07:08] <elite101> i dont even no that?
[07:08] <elite101> 1.0 to 2.0?
[07:08] <Viking667> dr_willis: lol. I started with 1.0.9...
[07:08] <dr_willis> but ya can occasionaly get some good OLD-Skool Info in some of those books
[07:08] <intelikey> dr_willis not really.  learning how to do that will help a lot in some respects
[07:08] <dr_willis> I got some RedHatbook thats basicially a Printout of 90% of the man pages that exist.
[07:09] <elite101> ohh lol the 90's book witht he guy with the black and white photos on the old comadore with the comeover
[07:09] <dr_willis> intelikey,  better to learn to do it with what ya got.
[07:09] <elite101> combover**
[07:09] <dr_willis> I do have some very old "linux kernel' books - that look like they were written with Troff. :)
[07:09] <elite101> hey cna u guys view youtube videos?
[07:09] <dr_willis> now thats old-skool
[07:09] <dr_willis> elite101,  i see them just fine
[07:09] <intelikey> dr_willis with any kernel really   the process hasn't really changed that much,   only the tools have grown
[07:09] <elite101> i have linux books ritten in dos
[07:09] <Viking667> elite101: I can, yes... though I have to dance a little to do so
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> elite101: just fine over here
[07:11] <intelikey> elite101  DOS == disk operating system  (R) micro soft trade mark
[07:11] <elite101> does this make any sense to you what so ever??? please tell me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY8Wi7XRXCA
[07:12] <slacker403> how do i instal the kubuntu server thing again where i just want a base and nothing more ?
[07:12] <elite101> please view dont worry its about computers
[07:12] <slacker403> kubuntu alternate is the same size as the desktop
[07:12] <intelikey> writen in "dos"  ???
[07:12] <elite101> lol nvm im dumb
[07:13] <elite101> who knows
[07:13] <elite101> but does that youtube video make anysense what so ever
[07:13] <dr_willis> elite101,  hes making a dish antanna out of Al. Foil and a plastic bowl
[07:13] <elite101> lmao
[07:13] <elite101> its way to fake
[07:13] <elite101> with teh phone thing
[07:14] <elite101> and ethernet cord like c'mon
[07:14] <dr_willis> I dident listen to it.
[07:15] <draik> intelikey: I installed rutebook. How do I read/access it?
[07:15] <dsmith> lol
[07:15] <dsmith> hmmmm, I will have to ry that
[07:15] <dsmith> just one time to see if it does work
[07:15] <Viking667> it's a series of webpages.
[07:15] <Viking667> sorry, that was to draik
[07:15] <dr_willis> it does seemt o be a 'joke video'
[07:16] <dr_willis> cd /usr/share/doc/rutebook/
[07:16] <intelikey> draik it's in html format you have a w3b cli based web browser installed    to see where the files actually are use this command     dpkg -L rutebook | grep index
[07:16] <dr_willis> I think it would be nice if all these web-books/docs could be accessde a little easier.. Hmm
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> let's say i were going to buy a laptop.
[07:16] <dr_willis> wonder if there is a kioslave for that.
[07:16] <elite101> what happens if by accedent u hit xkill and click on the desktop and u it goes to a black screen with just a cursor???
[07:16] <intelikey> draik then   w3b that file
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> who makes laptops and doesn't, you know, suck.
[07:17] <dr_willis> elite101,  then you hit alt-ctrl-backspace and restart X :)
[07:17] <intelikey> or is it w3m
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> dell, maybe a toshica
[07:17] <intelikey> w3[tab]
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> toshiba, too!
[07:17] <Viking667> well, there's possibly a way to embed "lynx -dump" into a window?
[07:17] <elite101> okay
[07:17] <elite101> thanks
[07:17] <intelikey> draik w3[tab]
[07:17] <Viking667> "links", or lynx, dillo, w3m
[07:17] <intelikey> :)
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> (toshica is the cheap hong kong ripoff, like sorny and samsang)
[07:18] <intelikey> Viking667 links2 or elinks
[07:18] <intelikey> Viking667 there isn't actually a "links" anymore
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Viking667: i like w3m myself
[07:19] <dr_willis> Hmm.. looking at some parts for my next pc..    What the heck is this HUGE heatsink in the middle of the motherboard? its not the cpu.
[07:19] <dr_willis> http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/pix/dp35dp_lg.jpg
[07:19] <elite101> lol so i try it
[07:19] <intelikey> but not with the default colour set      <pukes<
[07:19] <dsmith> ok that youtube video is BS, I just watched another one
[07:19] <elite101> stupid me
[07:19] <elite101> lol
[07:19] <elite101> i know
[07:19] <elite101> i love his intros though to the video
[07:19] <dsmith> "electrical tape" is called electrical tape as it conducts electricity...lmao
[07:19] <dsmith> good intros, yes
[07:19] <dsmith> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdmnUBAS00&NR=1
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: onboard gpu?
[07:20] <elite101> lol the mindsweeper one
[07:20] <elite101> doesnt work
[07:20] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  the mb specs dnt seem to indicate it has that.. wonder if its for the memory controller.
[07:20] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  thats a quadcore mb. :) Tigerdirect has it in a special deal this week
[07:21] <elite101> lmao recharge batterys
[07:21] <dr_willis> $600 for a bearbones Quadcore system
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: oh yeah, they sent me an email about that :)
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> passive chipset cooling.
[07:21] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  : ) i got them on my RSS feeds
[07:21] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  debating using it for my next linux box.
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, back to the laptop question
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> im an AMD kinda guy :P
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> any that you would recommend more than others?
[07:22] <elite101> im intel celeron
[07:22] <elite101> fasts CPU
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> celeron != fast :\
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> celeron == cheap commodity junk
[07:22] <elite101> lol
[07:22] <intelikey> i'm thinking of taking the vidio card out of this one box to make room for the fifth nic,   any chance that it will somehow break things ???
[07:23] <dr_willis> Laptops are all about your Budget.. :)
[07:23] <dvm> How to update the label widget dynamically in gtk?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: does it have onboard? or are you just going to ssh in?
[07:24] <dr_willis> intelikey,  problemi had with a headless server, was once it lost power in a storm, and had a hd issue.. i had to hook up a monitor to realize that was whyit wasent booting properly.
[07:24] <intelikey> no
[07:24] <elite101> is it true that True intel prossecors are faster than celeron even with the same Ghz frequency?
[07:24] <dr_willis> bit of a bother. so now i keep a cheap montior handy. for just such emergancies
[07:24] <dr_willis> elite101,  i belive they offer more preformance.
[07:25] <intelikey> dr_willis k  indeed,   but if i set fsck to auto fix everything and reboot    will that cover power fail ?
[07:25] <dr_willis> the use of the term 'faster' can get confusing.
[07:25] <dr_willis> intelikey,  unless fsck fails, and wants/asks you to do somthing.
[07:25] <dr_willis> intelikey,  ive noticed inteh past ive broken things myself by messing up myfstab also. :)
[07:25] <stdin> elite101: not exactly, depends on the task. celerons have less pages of programming in them
[07:26] <dr_willis> intelikey,  i belive it normally asks 'hit ctrl-d to continue' or root pasword for shell.. or somthing like that.
[07:26] <intelikey> dr_willis heh not in my init scripts it don't   lol
[07:26] <dr_willis> intelikey,  so... if the thing ever fails to boot. you will have to put in a video card, and monitor to see why. which may be a bit of a hassle
[07:26] <intelikey> don't forget that is where i play the most
[07:26] <dr_willis> Im always swaping drives around, and forget to fix the fstabs befor i reboot.
[07:27] <intelikey> yeah that can be major malfunction
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> anyway, night all
[07:27] <stdin> dr_willis: that's why UUID's are nuce
[07:27] <dr_willis> But moving drives internally, works fine. since the fstab is using uuid
[07:27] <stdin> *nice
[07:27] <intelikey> i have gotten in a habbit of just rm /etc/fstab   and you don't have that
[07:27] <dr_willis> stdin,  moving them from one machine to another.. is not  as smart. :)
[07:27] <wnh001> hello all, I have an issue I was hoping you could help me out with
[07:27] <wnh001> when I boot into kubuntu
[07:28] <wnh001> it says that fsck is mounting a disk with errors
[07:28] <stdin> dr_willis: well, depends if you're booting off the disk you moved. it's worked ok for me (so far)
[07:28] <wnh001> it does this every time I boot
[07:29] <wnh001> any help?
[07:29] <dr_willis> stdin,  till it tried to mount a disk thats no longer there.. :) but the fstab says it is..
[07:29] <dr_willis> wnh001,  boot live cd. fsck the disk manually perhaps.
[07:29] <stdin> dr_willis: ahh, well that would be a problem :p
[07:29] <dr_willis> wnh001,  are you using windows xp, and that ext2-fs thing for windows?
[07:29] <intelikey> wnh001 i would reboot and at the grub prompt set  init=/bin/sh    then when it gets to the shell prompt run fsck on the root fs and see what is going on
[07:30] <wnh001> dr_willis: a friend of mine installed it recently... why?
[07:30] <intelikey> if none of that makes sense i'll just hush
[07:30] <aldcor> aldcor
[07:31] <stdin> yeah, that diver messed up one of my ext3 partitions a while ago
[07:31] <stdin> it's not 100% stable
[07:31] <stdin> (it's not even 50% IMO)
[07:31] <wnh001> OH MAN it didnt wreck anything did it?
[07:31] <wnh001> I mean I can still boot
[07:31] <stdin> fsck should fix it
[07:31] <dr_willis> wnh001,  IF windows has the linux drives mounted.. and windows crashes.. well it gets flagged as 'unmounted uncleanly' and a check is forced.
[07:31] <wnh001> this is constant
[07:31] <wnh001> everytime I boot
[07:31] <dr_willis> wnh001,  ive seen that issue on my own machines.
[07:32] <dr_willis> wnh001,  every time ya boot straight to windows eh?
[07:32] <dr_willis> err i mean linux. no windows at all
[07:32] <wnh001> no linux
[07:32] <wnh001> I had needed to move files from windows to ubuntu
[07:32] <wnh001> so my friend suggested that driver
[07:32] <stdin> wnh001: you know ubuntu can read from NTFS?
[07:32] <dr_willis> so ya boot linux, it checks the disks.. ya reboot and it still has to check .. eh.
[07:33] <stdin> wnh001: and write with the ntfs-3g driver
[07:33] <wnh001> no! stdin ! where were you when I needed you
[07:33] <wnh001> and it can be written to?!
[07:33] <stdin> wnh001: probably sleeping :p
[07:33] <dr_willis> wnh001,  thats a faq :)
[07:33] <dr_willis> heh heh..
[07:33] <stdin> !ntfs-3g
[07:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:33] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:33] <dr_willis> !ntfs-config
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <wnh001> I didnt really know how to get onto irc
[07:33] <wnh001> but as you can see, im learning fast
[07:33] <dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu pages have a good forum section
[07:33] <lemon> hello everyone!... does anyone teach me how to change my bootscreen...
[07:34] <dr_willis> !slpash
[07:34] <dr_willis> !splash
[07:34] <wnh001> no one ever gets to tinker with my computer again
[07:34] <dr_willis> !bootsplash
[07:34] <intelikey> !usplash | lemon
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slpash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <ubotu> lemon: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:34] <dr_willis> we got way too many slash factouids
[07:34] <intelikey> amature
[07:34] <wnh001> dr_willis:  if I remove the driver and let fsck do its job will it be fixed
[07:34] <stdin> wnh001: but yeah, you can wither boot from the install cd and run fsck from there, or do what intelikey said. then it should be fixed
[07:34] <dr_willis> wnh001,  you can turn off the disks from windows control panel/ifs tool. BUT if you are not booting to windows in between, then thats not the problem
[07:35] <dr_willis> wnh001,  its possible windows dis somthing odd to the disks and they need to be checked manuyally
[07:35] <intelikey> wnh001 don't leave yet.
[07:35] <wnh001> intelikey: why?
[07:36] <stdin> wnh001: if you just want access to your windows files, linux can do that for you. if you want write access it takes a little more config, but it's not difficult. and more stable than the windows driver
[07:36] <intelikey> wnh001 it "could" be another drive / partition /file system     that is being mounted with errors
[07:36] <wnh001> point me in the right direction!
[07:36] <stdin> wnh001: tho you should always backup important data
[07:36] <intelikey> wnh001 would you care to pastebin your fstab file ?
[07:36] <wnh001> how intelikey
[07:36] <stdin> !paste
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <wnh001> no the fstab thing
[07:36] <intelikey> wnh001    cat /etc/fstabd
[07:37] <intelikey> wnh001    cat /etc/fstab
[07:37] <stdin> wnh001: open it in kate, then copy it to that website
[07:37] <stdin> or cat :p
[07:37] <stdin> whichever really
[07:37] <intelikey> or kedit or kword or nano  or .....
[07:37] <intelikey> openoffice even
[07:38] <dr_willis> fte, vi, vim, mcedit
[07:38] <stdin> kedit/kword aren't installed by default, and unless you have an hour for oo.o to open... :p
[07:38] <dr_willis> dd !
[07:38] <dr_willis> ed!
[07:38] <dr_willis> :)
[07:38] <intelikey> dr_willis or ted the joe
[07:38] <intelikey> :)
[07:38] <stdin> intelikey: or nopaste :)
[07:39] <intelikey> or echo $(<)
[07:39] <dr_willis> sed
[07:39] <wnh001> intelikey: dr_willis stdin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31034/
[07:39] <stdin> wnh001: heh, do you see your windows files in /media/sda2 ?
[07:40] <stdin> oh, and /media/sda1
[07:40] <wnh001> stdin windoes is in sda2
[07:40] <wnh001> and sda1
[07:40] <intelikey> ok you are forcing check on both vfat and ntfs  that's your error message
[07:41] <wnh001> intelikey: im not doing anything... this does it all by itself
[07:41] <intelikey> change the last digit from  1 to 0 on all but the root / partition
[07:41] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[07:41] <draik> How do I get out of rutebook?
[07:42] <intelikey> q
[07:42] <draik> intelikey: w3m
[07:42] <intelikey> q
[07:42] <draik> Thank you
[07:42] <wnh001> intelikey: which one is root?
[07:42] <intelikey>  /
[07:42] <stdin> wnh001: the one with ext3 on the line
[07:42] <intelikey> all others have  /something   but root is  /
[07:42] <wnh001> the one complaining of the errors
[07:43] <wnh001> ok I left root as 0 1
[07:43] <intelikey> yes and the others as 0 0   ?
[07:43] <wnh001> yes
[07:43] <intelikey> save and exit
[07:44] <wnh001> can I space these items out so that if this happens another time ill better know where to edit?
[07:44] <draik> intelikey: How do I manage/control Ubuntu Server?
[07:44] <intelikey> that should fix it.
[07:44] <stdin> draik: with the command line
[07:44] <intelikey> draik what part of it ?    what do you want to affect ?
[07:44] <wnh001> nvm
[07:44] <wnh001> thanks guys for releasing an awesome os like this one
[07:44] <intelikey> wnh001 yes you can.
[07:45] <draik> I'm not sure. I figured I'd have a GUI where I would have to manage users and such. I setup a LAMP server (instead of DNS)
[07:45] <stdin> draik: no, the server edition has no GUI
[07:45] <stdin> draik: you can install one tho