[17:37] <usr13> kwyjibo: sudo fdisk -l >info;sudo blkid >>info;pastebinit info;rm info  #And send resulting URL
[17:37] <betArk> Goldwing: but I only have an swap on the encrypted LVM. So no two. My disk: /boot - Encrypted LVM (with lvroot, lvhome, lvswap)
[17:38] <neta>  i have a problem- i need a dictionary, so i downloaded stardict and goldendict, but i didn't succeed to use dictionarys that i downloaded from babylon
[17:38] <Moonlightning> How do I get the system to hibernate automatically when the system gets to reserve power? Right now it just shuts down as if with `sudo shutdown -h now`
[17:38] <confusion> is it ok to ask questions away here?
[17:38] <neta> can u help me? :)
[17:38] <Moonlightning> !ask | confusion
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: is there anyting in the power icon in dash?
[17:38] <confusion> [Question] why and how does "ls lgrep /" work
[17:38] <Goldwing> well, you could hash out the line "/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-lvswap none            swap    sw              0       0"
[17:38] <Moonlightning> ActionParsnip: I have a problem with the display; it's really hard to see or read anything…can we do this via the CLI?
[17:39] <betArk> Goldwing: yes, the error message is gone
[17:39] <Goldwing> solved :)
[17:39] <betArk> betArk: thanks! can I check if swap is working? (I still have keeped the last swap line)
[17:39] <betArk> Goldwing: thanks! can I check if swap is working? (I still have keeped the last swap line)
[17:39] <confusion> !patience
[17:39] <uskerine> is it normal to see traffic in "lo"
[17:40] <racha> I've been reading a very long thread on the ubuntu forum about backups using tar, but I couldn't see anything in 100+ pages that does what I want; to restore on a VPS in a way that deletes any files that are present, but not included in the backup.  Any takers?
[17:40] <uskerine> i have almost same traffic than for "eth0"
[17:40] <Goldwing> betArk : hmmmm.. never tried that before, testing swap..
[17:40] <Danielpk> I trying to configure sendmail but i can't find sendmail.mc at /etc/mail/ is there other place that i should look?
[17:40] <betArk> Goldwing: or see if it is mounted?
[17:40] <Goldwing> you would need to fill up the RAM to test the swap
[17:41] <usr13> uskerine: lo is just loop-back interface
[17:41] <tziemann_> Goldwing: What is the best way to learn ubuntu, and iptables?
[17:41] <uskerine> i know that
[17:41] <W4sp> azrael_romel: You can use 'Empathy', which should have been installed by default. IT can be used for Yahoo!, MSN, Jabber and other services.
[17:41] <uskerine> so why should it have same traffic than eth0
[17:41] <uskerine> is that correcT?
[17:42] <Goldwing> well, i'm positive it's mounted, otherwise it would have given an error
[17:42] <Goldwing> brb
[17:42] <phy1729> is there an easy way to apt-get upgrade multiple servers easier then just ssh and apt-get 5 or 6 times?
[17:42] <confusion> possibly if you let a script do that for you
[17:42] <phy1729> I read not to cron job it incase it need new configs
[17:43] <usr13> tziemann_: Building a NAT router is a good way to learn IPTABLES.  Using Ubuntu is a good way to learn Ubuntu, (spending time experimenting).  There are lots of websites that you can learn from too.
[17:43] <llutz> racha:rsync --delete    might do what you want, i doubt tar can do
[17:43] <chamunks> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:43] <racha> Thanks, llutz, I'll give that a try.
[17:44] <tziemann_> usr13: I work with a NAT router, but have enver built one. Any suggestions?
[17:45] <W4sp> racha: You may evaluate rsync. You can configure rsync so that files no longer available in <src> are removed from <target>. That's the way I understand your requirements, that is.
[17:45] <uskerine> can ubuntu one be stopped/started like a service in a multi-user environment
[17:45] <uskerine> ?
[17:45] <uskerine> like enable or disable for all user
[17:45] <uskerine> like enable or disable for all users
[17:45] <uskerine> (via console)
[17:46] <racha> W4sp, I think that's what I mean.  If file1 and file2 are in a directory, but only file1 is in the backup, when I restore I want file2 to be removed.
[17:46] <Kircle> I'm trying to get the sound to work with an emulator. It's set to use OSS for the sound but in Terminal it gives me 'SPU: open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY): No such file or directory'
[17:46] <betArk> Goldwing: seems to be working now! Thanks! I see the correct swap line in /etc/crypttab.. so maybe the installer or I did something wrong?
[17:46] <racha> So that when I mess up installing stuff I don't have old files kicking around
[17:46] <tziemann_> betArk: Hishnakoya?
[17:46] <usr13> tziemann_: If you have an unused PC and about 3 network cards, you can build a NAT router.
[17:46] <W4sp> racha: Then rsync is the one you may wish to use. Tar can't do it for you.
[17:47] <racha> TYVM
[17:47] <betArk> tziemann_: whay?
[17:47] <betArk> tziemann_: what?
[17:47] <zerts> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.10/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found   how can I delete this plz help
[17:47] <usr13> tziemann_: For learning Ubuntu, here is a website:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[17:47] <abro21> is there a way to kill programs running in the backround without system monitor? something to free up some RAM
[17:48] <py_can> abro21: you'd need to know which programs to kill
[17:48] <py_can> abro21: google for a tutorial on minimizing your RAM usage on ubuntu
[17:48] <ki4ro> zerts: Are you trying to do an update?
[17:49] <shcherba1> abro21: htop and kill is lethal combo.
[17:49] <khan> you can use 'kill' command from the terminal
[17:49] <usr13> tziemann_: Here is a website for learning how to build a NAT router:  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
[17:50] <zerts> Hi ki4ro I add that rep time a go.
[17:50] <tziemann_> usr13: you are awesome
[17:51] <ki4ro> zerts: If you open the update manager and select options you should be able to find it in one of the lists and uncheck the box next to its name
[17:51] <zerts> ki4ro thx let me check
[17:52] <ki4ro> zerts: Welcome...good luck
[17:53] <usr13> tziemann_: The first few links here will be of interest for iptables: https://www.google.com/search?q=learning+IP+tables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[17:55] <usr13> tziemann_: There are many....
[17:55] <tziemann_> oh yeah
[17:55] <tziemann_> I started reading, there is a lot to know
[17:55] <tziemann_> I work at Ecessa, we deal with WAN optimization
[17:56] <uskerine> how can I kill this?
[17:56] <uskerine> sysadmin tty7                      07Aug12 17days  7:51   0.00s /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[17:56] <uskerine> why does it have so large JCPU value (that's w output)
[17:58] <sambagirl> is ubuntu 10.04 lts still supported?
[17:58] <sporkboy> uskerine, no pid in ps aux?
[18:00] <usr13> uskerine: xinit is the X Window System initializer
[18:01] <usr13> uskerine: You can kill X  (if you just want console mode).  sudo pkill X
[18:01] <usr13> sporkboy: Yes
[18:01] <goddard> who else thinks the ubuntu wiki sucks?
[18:02] <usr13> sambagirl: Yes
[18:02] <ki4ro> sambagirl: Until 2015 I believe
[18:02] <usr13> sambagirl: see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:02] <randomiser> how to format a pendrive using ubuntu terminal?
[18:02] <usr13> goddard: There are a lot of ubuntu wiki's so.....
[18:03] <usr13> randomiser: mkfs
[18:03] <goddard> usr13: have you ever contributed to the offical wiki?
[18:07] <sambagirl> thanks!ki4ro
[18:07] <jrib> goddard: do you have an actual support question related to ubuntu?
[18:07] <sambagirl> the new gnome and unity and all this insanity is all trash. STINKS!
[18:07] <W4sp> randomiser: Run 'mkfs -t <fstype> /dev/?' where <fstype> is any of the supported ones, such as ext4 or msdos.
[18:08]  * knyn is back (gone 00:00:43)
[18:08] <randomiser> i'll try that!
[18:08] <newb2linux> halo why there are so many ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu edubuntu kubuntu which one should i install
[18:08] <sambagirl> newb2linux i like pinguyos and you may like ubuntustudio
[18:08] <sambagirl> all of them are good
[18:09] <newb2linux> pinguyos website please
[18:09] <darkham> hi, i need to upgrade mesa drivers on the 10.04, something newer than the last available, 7.7.1
[18:09] <Rpley> I'm traying to do a buffer overflow, and y got it, but I can't overwrite the ESP register (I don't know why), then I can load a shellcode to take the control of the execution
[18:09] <darkham> how can i do?
[18:09] <W4sp> sambagirl: install a DE that you would like to have and keep lightdm as it is. Once your DE has been installed it will show up on the login screen. Select your DE from a list next to your name.
[18:09] <Persona24> Hi, I was on here yesterday asking about my wireless connection. I'm running the latest version of Ubuntu. I installed the additional driver and I installed the updates and I still can't get a wireless signal
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> pinguyos is not well supported anywhere
[18:09] <newb2linux> ubuntu studio websit pleas
[18:09] <W4sp> sambagirl: I thought, however, you know that already. :-)
[18:09] <sambagirl> hah
[18:10] <goddard> jrib: this is a support question related to ubuntu
[18:10] <sambagirl> w4sp i will do that. w4sp i swear microsoft and apple are behind all this mess today.
[18:10] <goddard> jrib: im wondering if anyone else considers it annoying how the wiki is setup
[18:10] <newb2linux> should i nstall pirated copy of windows 8 tm i have xp now
[18:10] <melkor> Whats a cd burning program that works?
[18:10] <jrib> goddard: "who else thinks the ubuntu wiki sucks?" is not a support question.  If you want to talk about the quality of the wiki, please use #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Persona24, what is the wireless card?
[18:11] <sambagirl> there is no pirated version of w8 it's a free beta
[18:11] <sambagirl> and it sucks even worse than unity
[18:11] <newb2linux> pls recocomend me a linux os
[18:11] <sambagirl> i just did
[18:11] <newb2linux> website
[18:11] <W4sp> sambagirl: :-) Feel free to share your conspiracy theories.  If you don't like it, change it yourself.
[18:14] <Persona24> wilee-nilee: I don't know. This is not my computer. How can I find out?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  wrong channel
[18:14] <Moonlightning> Or find something that you /do/ like. Because somepony's probably already had the same dislike you have and made a different version that you'll like.
[18:15] <W4sp> newb2linux: Ubuntu is a distro, you have have any desktop environment and theme you possibly want. It is only a few clicks away.
[18:15] <newb2linux> i am using xp want to daul boot a linux os
[18:15] <newb2linux> most say ubuntu
[18:15] <newb2linux> but ubuntu looks ugly and mac like
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  not here please
[18:15] <jrib> newb2linux: then don't use ubuntu.  This channel is for help with ubuntu only
[18:15] <Persona24> newb2linux: You could always try KDE
[18:16] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: you don't have to take suggestions from anyone…
[18:16] <newb2linux> i am new man
[18:16] <usr13> newb2linux: Ubuntu is probably the most user friendly and the package management system is the most sophistocated.  The choice is yours.  I recommend Ubuntu or Xubuntu
[18:16] <W4sp> newb2linux: This is #ubuntu to take on technical challenges.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  choose a distro of your liking and try that
[18:16] <Moonlightning> ^
[18:16] <newb2linux> what is debian
[18:16] <usr13> *sophisticated*
[18:17] <xangua> newb2linux: do you have an ubuntu support related question¿ yes or no¿
[18:17] <confusion> [Question] "ls lgrep /" works and prints only dirs -- but why/how? (i have no lgrep installed and the arguments for ls seems fishy. man, info, google have no info)
[18:17] <newb2linux> yaa why there are so many buntus
[18:17] <newb2linux> which to go for
[18:17] <usr13> newb2linux: See: debian.org
[18:17] <Moonlightning> Anyway. I'm trying to find a way to get the battery status from the command line on a PowerBook G4 running 12.04.1-LTS?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  try one, like we all did
[18:17] <newb2linux> whcih one
[18:17] <newb2linux> kubuntu is beautiful
[18:18] <sambagirl> i did a traceroute on newb2linux and asked anonymous crew to do a background check and it has been discovered that this is bill gates mini me
[18:18] <usr13> newb2linux: It is common sense.  If you ask which is the best on #ubuntu, they will say Ubuntu.  If you ask which is the best on #slackware, they will say Slackware.
[18:18] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: maybe ask on http://unix.stackexchange.com/ or http://www.superuser.com/ which one would be good for you?
[18:18] <newb2linux> what is unity
[18:19] <Persona24> wilee-nilee: I don't know. This is not my computer. How can I find out?
[18:19] <L3top> newb2linux: a desktop environment. Default one for ubuntu
[18:19] <confusion> @newb2linux the userintarface
[18:19] <newb2linux> hey why ubuntu not use gnome
[18:19] <newb2linux> google say gnome is the best desktop interface
[18:19] <confusion> google says many things
[18:19] <darkham> i need to upgrade mesa drivers
[18:19] <xangua> newb2linux: ubuntu uses gnome
[18:19] <Persona24> newb2linux: it's all a mater of opinion
[18:19] <darkham> on ubuntu 10.04
[18:19] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: you can probably make it use gnome…
[18:20] <usr13> newb2linux: It is a matter of preference
[18:20] <darkham> please help me.
[18:20] <L3top> newb2linux: gnome3 is used.
[18:20] <L3top> !gnome
[18:20] <Moonlightning> Persona24: `lscpi` I think
[18:20] <L3top> !gnome3
[18:20] <usr13> newb2linux: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:20] <root__> hi
[18:20] <usr13> hi
[18:20] <Persona24> Moonlightning: "command not found"
[18:21]  * Moonlightning blinks
[18:21] <L3top> lspci Persona24
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> Persona24, here are two commands one of which should identify the card   lspci | grep -i wireless  lspci | grep Broadcom
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Ze doesn't seem to have `lspci`
[18:21] <root__> usr13
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Is it bundled with Ubuntu?
[18:21] <newb2linux> hey join ubuntu offtopic
 Persona24: `lscpi` I think                       lsPCI not lsCPI
[18:21] <usr13> newb2linux: good idea
[18:21] <newb2linux> usr13 join ubuntu offtopic
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Oh, derp.
[18:21] <usr13> newb2linux: I did
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Yes, `lspci`, sorry
[18:22] <newb2linux> i cannot find u
[18:22] <root__> back track
[18:22] <newb2linux> us13 join me
[18:22] <root__> or mint
[18:22] <Persona24> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02
[18:22] <xangua> newb2linux: can you stop that please¿
[18:22] <L3top> !mint | root__
[18:22] <usr13> Persona24: Do you have Ubuntu 12.04 installed?
[18:22] <Persona24> usr13: yes
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> ! broadcom | Persona24  look here
[18:23] <root__> but back track
[18:23] <usr13> Persona24: And your wireless card is not working?
[18:23] <root__> is secure
[18:23] <newb2linux> guys ubuntu offtopic consists of boring people they are talking abt pineapples
[18:23] <Moonlightning> How can I get the battery status from the command line on a PowerBook G4 running 12.04.1-LTS?
[18:23] <msergiu80> can somebody help me by telling me why do I have a doubled CNAME record on "dig www.embedded-systems.ro"
[18:24] <Persona24> usr13: Hasn't been. . . Pretty sure you was helping me last night ont it. I installed the additional drivers and did an update and still nothing works
[18:24] <jrib> newb2linux: this channel is for questions about the ubuntu operating system.  Please stay on-topic.  Thanks.
[18:24] <usr13> Persona24: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer;sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[18:24] <Persona24> usr13: This was running Windows Vista and the wireless card was working just fine
[18:24] <msergiu80> so that non-www works but www doesn;t in a browser
[18:24] <usr13> Persona24: Did you do the above?
[18:24] <jhourani> hi all...anyone here familiar with graph-based databases? specifically Orient_db or neo4j?
[18:24] <newb2linux> can i run call of duty modern warfare in ubuntu
[18:24] <Persona24> usr13: Just did
[18:25] <newb2linux> nfs most wanted in ubuntu
[18:25] <usr13> Persona24: So try it now.
[18:25] <lordievader> newb2linux: Check the wine db: http://www.winehq.org/search?cx=partner-pub-0971840239976722%3Aw9sqbcsxtyf&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=call+of+duty+modern&siteurl=appdb.winehq.org%2FobjectManager.php%3FsClass%3Dcategory%26iId%3D%26sAction%3Dview%26sTitle%3DBrowse%2BApplications&ref=www.google.nl%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dwinedb%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fappdb.winehq.org%252Fappbrowse.
[18:25] <lordievader> php%26ei%3DenU2UMSpHIqi0QXG9IHQBg%26usg%3DAFQjCNHpNZOfcnw_eU53lJH66PB1UMQTOA&ss=5511j1594109j25
[18:25] <usr13> Persona24: You may need to restart your PC.
[18:25] <Persona24> usr13: Still nohing. This is what it said "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[18:26] <newb2linux> why ubuntu has no virus
[18:26] <usr13> Persona24: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[18:26] <usr13> newb2linux: Because it is Linux.
[18:26] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: because Windows is still the most popular, so most malware is written for Windows?
[18:26] <jhourani> ok so no graph-database experience in here/.
[18:26] <Moonlightning> Linux is also more secure, I think.
[18:26] <lordievader> newb2linux: There are some, however since 98% still runs windows, it isn't efficient for virus writers to make linux virusses.
[18:27] <usr13> Moonlightning: Not exactly.  It is because Linux is different, and not vulnerable.
[18:27] <lordievader> What is the market share of linux nowadays?
[18:27] <usr13> lordievader: Pretty big.
[18:27] <usr13> very big.
[18:27] <Persona24> usr13: Did they like take package manager off in 12.04? >.> I can't find it
[18:27] <iceroot> lordievader: of course it would be efficient to write viruses for GNU/Linux because on most systems there is linux running (just not on desktop systems)
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> lordievader, unknown,
[18:28] <lordievader> usr13: How many percent roughly?
[18:28] <iceroot> lordievader: smartphones, routers, server, embedded systems, everything running linux with more or less the same kernel
[18:28] <usr13> virus problems are not our concern, not a threat.  Just leave it at that.
[18:28] <jhourani> 1.53% of people use Linux...so not very big usr
[18:28] <usr13> lots and lots of servers
[18:28] <jhourani> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[18:28] <L3top> the internet is run on linux
[18:29] <L3top> very big.
[18:29] <lordievader> I was talking more about desktops...
[18:29] <usr13> jhourani: Dono where you get your stats but.... ????
[18:29] <L3top> not to mention android
[18:29] <jhourani> i provided a link
[18:29] <jhourani> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[18:29] <L3top> I was talking about virus targets
[18:29] <L3top> effective virus targets
[18:29] <usr13> L3top: What?
[18:29] <L3top> It is difficult at best to write viruses for a secure OS. The reason they are all written for windows is because it is easily exploited.
[18:29] <lordievader> L3top: Yes in that way, linux does have quite a share, in servers and what not.
[18:29] <jhourani> not to mention i am a software engineer...and the only nerds still using this archaic OS are us seems like...
[18:30] <Myrtti> however interesting this discussion about Linux and viruses is, unless you have a direct support question, could you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:30] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> hello speak hier jemand german???
[18:30] <darkham> how can i upgrade mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04?
[18:30] <Myrtti> !de | MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:30] <usr13> jhourani: What archaic OS are you talking about?
[18:30] <anotheruser> L3top, the reason they are all written for windows is only because windows is far more used
[18:30] <L3top> correct Myrtti. Sorry. I am so easily sucked in.
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, english only
[18:30] <L3top> !ot
[18:30] <jhourani> Linux. I cant stand it. I have to use it for development, because my company does
[18:30] <usr13> anotheruser: Not true.  Your information is in error.
[18:30] <Daghdha> Hi i am staring at a blank desktop of a ubuntu desktop t hat's not shutting down. EVERYTHING is empty, it just won't go down
[18:31] <Daghdha> Any buttons i can press (power buttons excluded)
[18:31] <jhourani> I run into all kinds of issues that I dont hit on windows (yes, I said it, I prefer to develop on windows!)
[18:31] <Moonlightning> Daghdha: control-alt-F1, log in, `sudo shutdown -h now` will shut down immediately
[18:31] <usr13> jhourani:  You work for a smart company.
[18:31] <jhourani> lol
[18:31] <anotheruser> jhourani, that's probably only because you haven't enough experience on linux yet
[18:31] <Moonlightning> !offtopic | jhourani
[18:31] <llutz> !ot | jhourani this is a support-channel
[18:31] <jhourani> dont care
[18:32] <Daghdha> Moonlightning: I have to be at the machine for that?
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, ctrl-alt-prtsc reisuo
[18:32] <jhourani> and anotheruser you're probably right :)
[18:32] <Moonlightning> Daghdha: how are you logged in right now? `ssh`?
[18:32] <usr13> jhourani: Don't care someplace else, your anti linux comments are wasted on us.
[18:32] <newbzilla> which chat room is best for basic ubuntu troubleshooting? i cant get flash player to work
[18:32] <Daghdha> vnc
[18:32] <deadmund> newbzilla: this one!
[18:32] <anotheruser> newbzilla, flash isn't supported on linux anymore (adobe is bad)
[18:32] <usr13> newbzilla: This one. (It is usually not like this. Sorry.)
[18:32] <jhourani> usr you dont even know what you're talking about
[18:32] <deadmund> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:32] <anotheruser> it's included in google chrome though
[18:33] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY COMPUTER WINDOWS BOOTS NO MORE HIGH
[18:33] <marco_> ciao
[18:33] <Moonlightning> !caps | marco_
[18:33] <usr13> jhourani: How do you know?
[18:33] <newbzilla> already tried that one deadmund but ill try again
[18:33] <Moonlightning> whoops
[18:33] <Moonlightning> !caps | MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:33] <Persona24> I've never used Synaptic Package Manager. How do I uninstall things?
[18:33] <jhourani> you're market share comment for one
[18:33] <Daghdha> went to machine and did -now thin
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, No caps please
[18:33] <W4sp> newbzilla: You came to the right place although at the moment it doesn't look like it.
[18:33] <usr13> Moonlightning: That's enough
[18:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: what does it say?  Give you any errors? It should output a bunch of stuff about downloading it and installing it.
[18:33] <L3top> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer on 1204 I believe newbzilla and deadmund
[18:33] <Moonlightning> usr13: okay, sorry…
[18:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: also, completely stop and restart your browser (firefox)
[18:33] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> I DONT SHOUT!!!
[18:34] <Moonlightning> ^ is shouting
[18:34] <deadmund> troll
[18:34] <Persona24> . . . nevermind
[18:34] <W4sp> newbzilla: There is no 'Adobe' flash players supported anymore but alternatives are available.
[18:35] <deadmund> W4sp: newbzilla the flash player that is in there is new enough and at this time will perform waay better than the alternatives (in terms of flash objects on the web will work)
[18:35] <jhourani> last time I will ask then I will go away. ANY experience with graph-based databases in here?!
[18:35] <goddard> jrib: offtopic will yeild nothing i expect
[18:35] <W4sp> deadmund: the latest avalable is 11 on 12.04
[18:35] <deadmund> W4sp: yep
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> jhourani, have you tried ##linux
[18:35] <anotheruser> deadmund, i've had to use the google chrome flash quite a few time actually, because the old flash plugin didn't work anymore
[18:35] <jrib> goddard: yield has nothing to do with it
[18:36] <deadmund> anotheruser: I didn't think chrome used some different flash than the one that was installed on the system
[18:36] <newbzilla> even when i restart the browser it just says plugin has crashed when i try to view pages
[18:36] <jrib> jhourani: ask a specific question (i.e. if someone answers, "yes", what would you then ask)
[18:36] <newbzilla> this is a totally fresh install of 12.04 with the updates
[18:36] <deadmund> newbzilla: what page?  does youtube work?  (so it's installed, it's just crashing)
[18:36] <anotheruser> deadmund, google chrome includes his own flash, that's the only thing supported by adobe now
[18:36] <deadmund> anotheruser: I see
[18:36] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> I cry why does not the the
[18:36] <Moonlightning> How can I get the battery status from the command line on a PowerBook G4 running 12.04.1-LTS? I've tried installing acpitool, acpid, and kacpimon, but I still don't have an `acpi` program…
[18:36] <usr13> newbzilla: Do you have google chrome installed?
[18:36] <W4sp> deadmund: From terminal you can run 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer'.
[18:37] <anotheruser> chromium != chrome though, be careful
[18:37] <T|ASK> Hi, how do I get the installed AMD driver version?
[18:37] <W4sp> deadmund: Sorry, wrong nick.
[18:37] <deadmund> W4sp: haha
[18:37] <deadmund> :)
[18:37] <goddard> jrib: on what planet?
[18:37] <newbzilla> and yes, any flash page like youtube says crashed. installed chrome as well and its not either doing the same thing or its just showing an empty black box like a video that dissappears when i hover over it
[18:37] <W4sp> newbzilla: From terminal you can run 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer'.
[18:37] <jrib> Moonlightning: check for some info from /sys/class/power_supply/BAT* though there are probably more user-friendly ways
[18:37] <deadmund> newbzilla: how old is your system?  Do you have some flash stuff open on some other page?
[18:38] <deadmund> W4sp: He already has it installed
[18:38] <usr13> newbzilla: Why did you install chrome?
[18:38] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> windows will not boot up wass should I do?
[18:38] <jrib> !ati | T|ASK
[18:38] <deadmund> newbzilla: in a different tab?
[18:38] <Moonlightning> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: this is not a Windows support channel.
[18:38] <jrib> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: use ##windows for help with windows
[18:38] <usr13> newbzilla: Maybe if you uninstall crhome and fix firefox, you will have a better go
[18:38] <T|ASK> Is there  a list of remommended AMD Drivers for a 'old' 4850 radeon card? I'm not sure which which one may be the best with which kernel ... it's so confusing
[18:38] <BluesKaj> 1grub | MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:38] <llutz> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:  /join #ubuntu-de  wenn du hilfe willst und nicht nur ein troll bist
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !grub'
[18:38] <W4sp> deadmund: Sorry mate. It's so noisy tonight - I thought I have cat'ted my kernel. :-(
[18:38] <deadmund> usr13: ?  firefox and chrome are independent of one another
[18:39] <deadmund> W4sp: ummm... it's ok...
[18:39] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> next to linux
[18:39] <usr13> deadmund: And your point? _____________?
[18:39] <Daghdha> Oh i asked shutdown huh
[18:39] <anthem> is it possible to search polipo's cache?  the files all seem gzipped, but I would like to have something like a local search engine.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> !grub| MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:39] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> ubuntu
[18:39] <deadmund> usr13: What is uninstalling chrome going to do?
[18:40] <usr13> deadmund: Simplify the process of getting a browser plugin to work and play flash videos.  (Using Firefox)
[18:40] <kantlivelong> anyone here get ginn workin on 12.04?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !info ginn
[18:40] <Moonlightning> jrib: /sys/class/power_supply is empty
[18:40] <newbzilla> alright im uninstalling chrom now and ill try to fix firefox first
[18:40] <kantlivelong> MonkeyDust: yes?
[18:41] <jhourani> jrib: I would ask if they have ever used Neo4j or OrientDB
[18:41] <T|ASK> The Radeon 4850 is a quite good card, but I have always issues with it with Ubuntu 12.04. I don't know which Kernel and driver you would recommend for it...
[18:41] <kantlivelong> MonkeyDust: it launches but does nothing
[18:41] <jrib> jhourani: I don't think you understand my point.
[18:41] <deadmund> newbzilla: one big thing is to make sure all of firefox and flash is dead by looking at top or ps -e
[18:41] <jhourani> I am thinking I dont care much about your point if it doesnt help me out
[18:41] <newbzilla> not sure what u mean deadmund
[18:42] <jrib> jhourani: you're more likely to get help if you just ask your real question
[18:42] <deadmund> newbzilla: When you 'restart firefox' you have to make sure that the processes have ended.  You can do that by seeing if they're listed in top or ps -e  those are both terminal commands.
[18:42] <newbzilla> oh duh, i restarted the whole pc
[18:42] <anotheruser> newbzilla, just install google chrome (not chromium)
[18:42] <anotheruser> flash is included
[18:43] <deadmund> newbzilla: that's more than good enough (completely unnecessary in my opinion).  What are your pc specs?
[18:43] <anotheruser> In February 2012, Adobe announced to discontinue its NPAPI Flash plugin for Linux from version 11.2. Newer versions will not be available from Adobe, but integrated with Google Chrome, using its PPAPI instead.
[18:43] <deadmund> newbzilla: hold off on installing chrome just yet
[18:43] <Mikness> Dum Adobe
[18:43] <newbzilla> yeah i did the chromium thing by mistake yesterday
[18:43] <jhourani> how do I bring an OrientDB graph into Gephi to view it?
[18:43] <jhourani> or Cytoscaper
[18:43] <Moonlightning> jrib: /sys/class/power_supply on my system is empty
[18:44] <jrib> Moonlightning: that's all I know about it
[18:44] <deadmund> newbzilla: chromium is just as good as chrome.  Maybe slightly dated.  But has the user tracking / privacy invasion stuff removed.
[18:44] <anotheruser> deadmund, and the flash support removed.
[18:44] <Mikness> Hey, all. Having an install issue. Want to install on 16GB USB, but gives me an error: "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu." Unable to access any 'partitioning menu'. Any thoughts?
[18:45] <newbzilla> neither worked though with flash and now i dont know how to uninstall it. i downloaded chrome.deb and installed that way, but its not showing in software center, where do i find it to remove chrome
[18:45] <L3top> Moonlightning: ls /sys/class/power_supply/         ACAD  BAT0
[18:45] <Moonlightning> L3top: it's empty on my system.
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, Use the something other option on install and set the partition /
[18:45] <L3top> I am on a laptop Moonlightning
[18:46] <anotheruser> newbzilla, and chrome didn't work with flash? are you sure? i'd try another time, and be sure not to be in chromium
[18:46] <Moonlightning> This is also a laptop.
[18:46] <jotek> Hello everybody! I want to speed up my pc. What packets are not needed in Xubuntu?
[18:46] <toni> Bot Nick
[18:46] <usr13> newbzilla: uninstall it
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !pm | Mikness
[18:47] <L3top> Moonlightning: ls /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/power
[18:47] <knyn> jotek: You can't just install unneeded packages to speed up your computer.
[18:47] <W4sp> jotek: Uninstalling packages does not speed up your system. The question is what you have running at a given time and if you need it.
[18:48] <robby_> msg robby_ register nqtt1234567<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:48] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, I don't do pm's
[18:48] <gyre008> test
[18:48] <Moonlightning> L3top: no on the /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00
[18:48] <W4sp> !test | gyre008
[18:48] <Mikness> I don't get to a 'something other' choice. Where do I set the partition? What utility do i use?
[18:48] <Mikness> thanks, not used to this yet
[18:48] <jotek> W4sp: im running on 3ghz celeron with 512mb ram, I cant surf well with mozilla, excepting totally watching movies on Youtube.
[18:49] <knyn> jotek: Upgrade your RAM. :P
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, So how are you installing ubuntu on the usb, and from where?
[18:49] <jotek> knyn: im sure it should work good on 512
[18:49] <Mikness> ...the same usb?
[18:49] <jotek> knyn: cause on Windows I hadnt such a problem
[18:49] <knyn> jotek: Use a lighter browser.
[18:49] <Mikness> When booting it gives me the option to try or install
[18:49] <jotek> knyn: for example?
[18:49] <Mikness> I chose install
[18:50] <knyn> Mikness: Both.
[18:50] <xangua> jotek: then use ligher programs, like Midori Browser
[18:50] <AdvoWork> got a predicament.. chrome has borked somehow, ive got a new chrome window being dragged around, i cannot release it, how can i kill chrome or fix this dragging issue? i can get to terminal, but i cant maximize the window so cannot get the pid's of chrome, any ideas?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, please also use nicks tab will complete the nick. You need a seperate cd or usb to install to the usb.
[18:50] <knyn> joket: Let me have a look for you.
[18:50] <jotek> xangua: Midori Brower, huh, interesting
[18:50] <L3top> What exactly are you trying to do Moonlightning
[18:50] <knyn> Midori, that's it.
[18:50] <darkham> i need help
[18:50] <Moonlightning> L3top: I'm trying to get battery status.
[18:50] <darkham> to upgrade mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04
[18:50] <jotek> Can someone tell me some light programs that will change my actually used?
[18:50] <Moonlightning> As much information as the system can provide, but even just percent remaining will be fine.
[18:50] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:50] <W4sp> jotek: Your RAM seems to be a bit on the lower end and I suggest to upgrade it. There's also Lubunu with even less hardware requirements than Xubuntu. Also, Firefox is a heavyweight. Consider a different browser. Do not blindly uninstall packages.
[18:51] <knyn> jotek: ?
[18:51] <jotek> W4sp: Lubuntu works worst than Xubuntu here.
[18:51] <glauco29> guy
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> Mikato, no problem the something else option is on the where you want ubuntu gui on the install.
[18:51] <L3top> Moonlightning: you can install acpi
[18:52] <L3top> and get status for many things in terminal
[18:52] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, I'll try using another usb on this one
[18:52] <Moonlightning> L3top: I've tried installing acpitool, acpid, and kacpimon, but I still don't have an `acpi` program.
[18:52] <glauco29> when I start one download on Firefox, my internet speed go very slow, why it?
[18:52] <W4sp> jotek: That's unusual. If you have to run application 'Example' there'a probably not much difference anyway.
[18:52] <L3top> Moonlightning: what version ubuntu are you on?
[18:52] <neta> hi, can someone help me with stardict- i can't use the dictionarys i downloaded
[18:52] <L3top> !info acpi
[18:52] <Moonlightning> L3top: 12.04.1-LTS
[18:53] <L3top> sudo apt-get install acpi           Moonlightning
[18:53] <jotek> W4sp: can I change my startup programs list in any way?
[18:53] <Moonlightning> L3top: package-not-available error
[18:53] <L3top> Moonlightning: then something is wrong with your sources.list. It is right there in universe
[18:54] <W4sp> glauco29: You would need to check if the connection  to the source is fast. Try an alternative hast, if possible.
[18:54] <jotek> W4sp: I dont need "Blueman" for example.
[18:54] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, is fat32 a good idea for an 8GB USB?
[18:54] <glauco29> alternative hast, what is 'hast'? W4sp
[18:55] <W4sp> glauco29: Also, there are speedtests available. However, they are often inconclusive and aim to lure you into a new ISP contract. Beware.
[18:55] <Moonlightning> L3top: okay, how do I fix it?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, For loading the ISO only yes for a full install no.
[18:55] <Moonlightning> glauco29, W4sp: best speed test is to download a large file. ;)
[18:55] <glauco29> on Windows I can download on firefox and access web normally, on ubuntu it goes slow
[18:55] <digikwondo> hi foks, having trouble converting dmg image file to iso/img through dmg2img i get "error:inflation failed" what do i try now?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, Your wording on the 16 gig suggested a full install is that what you want?
[18:56] <W4sp> jotek: You're at the low end with your hardware, memory is crucial for performance.
[18:56] <glauco29> I am not talking about my internet connection
[18:56] <L3top> Moonlightning: can you please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list     and also the output of ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:56] <glauco29> about ubuntu when I am downloading a file
[18:56] <glauco29> at least on firefox
[18:56] <Moonlightning> L3top: okay, hang on…
[18:57] <glauco29> I get page not found if I try access while downloading
[18:57] <W4sp> glauco29: I see, please change the browser to isolate the issue then.
[18:57] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, I have 2 USBs. 8GB and 16GB. I'm working off the 16 temporarily right now. (Want to be able to operate my system off of either stick while my SSD is getting repaired)
[18:57] <glauco29> ok W4sp, I will try it later
[18:57] <W4sp> glauco29: 'Page no found' is error 404 and has nothing to do with your download link.
[18:57] <glauco29> reload do solve
[18:57] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, so, I'm using the 16 to install on the 8, and vice versa
[18:57] <usr13> glauco29: Try wget
[18:58] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, make sense?
[18:58] <glauco29> how can I use wget usr13?
[18:58] <W4sp> glauco29: Yeah, wget or curl.
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, a full install correct?
[18:58] <usr13> glauco29: Choose "Copy Link Location"  and use wget
[18:58] <glauco29> wget or curl to download a file?
[18:59] <Mikness> yes? I believe I already have the ISO on each drive
[18:59] <Moonlightning> L3top: http://pastebin.com/mu8DezLz; /etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty
[18:59] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, Yes? I believe I already have the ISO on each drive
[18:59] <usr13> glauco29:  wget Ctrl-Shift-v
[19:00] <L3top> Moonlightning: very odd. sudo apt-get update         then sudo apt-get install acpi
[19:00] <L3top> Moonlightning: Odd because that should all be correct
[19:00] <Cong> my networkManager is missing
[19:01] <usr13> Cong: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[19:01] <Cong> the icon is not on the top bar
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, you need the iso on one to do full install on the other, boot the usb with the ISO hit the install, and use the something else option on the where you want ubuntu , choose the usb for the install hit change choose ext 4 format and / and then check that gru is going to that usb.from the
[19:01] <Moonlightning> L3top: still getting package-not-available
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> grub*
[19:01] <usr13> Cong: nm-applet
[19:01] <Cong> usr13, I think it's installed. just missing.
[19:02] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, k. Check "format the partition" box?
[19:02] <Cong> usr13, ** (nm-applet:2281): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[19:02] <trism> Moonlightning: I notice the ports.ubuntu.com in the sources.list, is this arm? acpi only builds on i386 amd64
[19:02] <Moonlightning> trism: It's ppc…
[19:02] <trism> Moonlightning: doesn't build for ppc either
[19:03] <Moonlightning> Yeah…
[19:03] <Cong> usr13, An instance of nm-applet is already running.
[19:03] <Moonlightning> So am I just out of luck?
[19:03] <usr13> Cong: Are you on 12.04?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, I'm concerned that we are not on the same page here,
[19:03] <Cong> nope, 10.04
[19:03] <Mikness> yeah, i think we are
[19:03] <L3top> ahhh good catch trism
[19:03] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, I'm at the editing partition window
[19:03] <Cong> usr13, I the icon from the top bar is missing.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, did you choose the something else option from the booted ISO usb after hitting the install start?
[19:04] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, chose Ext4 journaling file system
[19:04] <xangua> !panels | Cong
[19:04] <trism> Moonlightning: there may be other ways, do you have upower?
[19:04] <L3top> Moonlightning: ls /proc/acpi      nothing there I guess?
[19:04] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, yeah, was already there
[19:04] <trism> Moonlightning: something like: upower -e; to find a device, then upower -i /path/to/device
[19:04] <Moonlightning> trism: no, I'll try that. Hang on, updates…
[19:04] <usr13> Cong: Well, you could just ditch network-manager for wicd
[19:04] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, gives the option "Format the partition" below where i chose ext4
[19:04] <Moonlightning> L3top: no /proc/acpi either
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, cool so ext4 correct there is a format box there yes, and a dropdown choose /
[19:05] <usr13> Cong: sudo apt-get remove network-manager;sudo apt-get install wicd #And reboot
[19:05] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, yep, done. should I format as well?
[19:05] <L3top> yeah... as trism said... was a waste of a question to ask Moonlightning.
[19:05] <Moonlightning> L3top: huh? o.o
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, then check that grub is pointed at that usb on the main something else screen it is a dropdown.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, yes let it format that usb you are installing to.
[19:06] <L3top> no acpi on non 386 systems Moonlightning. Was a waste of time to look for it.
[19:06] <usr13> Cong: sudo apt-get install wicd;sudo apt-get remove network-manager  #And reboot
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, it will wipe that usb.
[19:06] <xangua> Cong: did you already reset the panel¿
[19:06] <Moonlightning> L3top: oh, okay…
[19:06] <Cong> reset didn't work, still the same old same
[19:06] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, file system dropdown:ext4, format partition: check, mount point dropdown: /
[19:07] <Cong> it was there but it vanished when I installed the nic drivers
[19:07] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, "Device for boot loader installation:" shows the correct USB name
[19:07] <Phaba> how do i use pkg_manager?
[19:07] <MortenTemp> Hi, is there any reason _not_ installing Ubuntu 64bit?
[19:07] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, wiping is fine. Should be good to go?
[19:07] <MortenTemp> for _not_*
[19:07] <Moonlightning> trism: yes, I have `upower`, but `upower -e` returns nothing (with exit status 0)
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, yep, and then make sure on the main screen after closing that portion, that grub in its dropdown is pointed at that usb no partition #'s just sda, or sdb what ever the usb is.
[19:08] <abdelghani> any way to do a repartition
[19:08] <abdelghani> ?
[19:08] <Cong> xangua, still here.
[19:08] <Frostbyte> I've got blurry screen / noise / grain after changing to a new monitor, tried to re-install drivers (doesn't fix the issue), tried to install post-release update drivers (jockey ends up with errors), tried to dpkg-reconfigure fglrx.. nothing works.. using Ubuntu 12.04LTS x64 with an ATI card.. Any clue how can I solve this?
[19:08] <zamn> hey basically I made a button for this terminal application on unity and whenever I click on it, it opens a new terminal and runs the program. Is there a way to have it be treated as a seperate program from terminal? Like for example If I hope up another terminal application then it will group with that and I don't want that :x
[19:08] <trism> Moonlightning: hmm, I'm not sure then
[19:08] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, k, thanks a lot. How do I get the current usb (16Gb, with the ISO) installed the same way?
[19:09] <xangua> Cong: already tried to manualy adding the network ¿ nic drivers¿
[19:09] <Cong> xangua, no.
[19:09] <Frostbyte> anyone?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, use the same method with another usb or cd, I would have used the 8 gig or another to install to the 16 gigger personally, just to have the biggest possible for use.
[19:10] <W4sp> Hi Frostbyte :-)
[19:10] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, will probably do that
[19:10] <Frostbyte> hey w4sp, we've got new issues :P
[19:10] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, will a 2GB work, or is that too small?
[19:10] <Moonlightning> Is there any way to use a different console font? I rather dislike all of the available ones…
[19:10] <W4sp> Frostbyte: I knew I could reley on you. ;-)
[19:10] <zamn> how can i figure out what versions of grub I have installed? I have an aching feeling that i have grub 1 and 2 installed..
[19:10] <xangua> Moonlightning: install Myunity to change font settings
[19:10] <Frostbyte> hahaha
[19:10] <L3top> Cong: cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules           do you have any ethernet devices defined there?
[19:12] <SoulBurner> why does this show my damn pictures to everyone?
[19:12] <Cong> L3top, yeah.
[19:12] <SoulBurner> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/My_Pictures
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, needs to be at least I believe 4.5 gigs for installer to work on a full install, you can load the ISO to a 1 gigger
[19:12] <Frostbyte> you've got any clue on how I can solve this weird issue, w4sp? :P
[19:12] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, let me rephrase: is a 2GB USB too small to hold the ISO and install to another USB?
[19:12] <Moonlightning> SoulBurner: 192.168.*.* is a local subnet
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, ^^^^
[19:12] <Moonlightning> You can't access it from outside the LAN.
[19:12] <newbzilla> how do i uninstall google chrome on 12.04 after in installed it through a .deb
[19:12] <Moonlightning> xangua: okay, installed `myunity`…now what?
[19:13] <vectorz> newbzilla: dpkg?
[19:13] <theadmin> newbzilla: sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable
[19:13] <W4sp> zamn: You can run 'grub-install -v' to figure out what you have installed.
[19:13] <xangua> Moonlightning: open it ans go to the Fonts tab
[19:13] <Moonlightning> xangua: can I do this via the command line? I have a display problem and it's hard to see anything in the GUI.
[19:14] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, k. also got this when I tried install: "You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space." blah blah blah. Do I need to set a swap partition? how big for the 8 and the 16?
[19:14] <SoulBurner> does anyone have a moment to help me figure out why wicd wont connect to wep networks? Im thinking I need a new wireless usb, i can connect to WPA and Open networks just fine but DHCP isnt assigning any ips to WEP networks for some reason. Even when I try manually
[19:15] <Moonlightning> …GUI it is. >.<
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, You can use a app called swapspace in ubuntu and avoid the swap partition, not sure if it will hibernate though if you need that.
[19:15] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, after install?
[19:16] <ircrobocop33> fmercafferty
[19:16] <zamn> On a new installation of Ubuntu 9.10 or later with no other installed operating systems, GRUB 2 will boot directly to the login prompt or Desktop. No menu will be displayed.
[19:16] <zamn> grub isnt doing that
[19:16] <zamn> it just sits at the menu :o
[19:16] <ehnde> my firefox fonts are unreadable on a clean install. what can i do to improve this?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, yeah just run a update and upgrade then sudo apt-get install swapspace  this is a app that will build a swap file as needed, and remove it when not needed.
[19:17] <ehnde> not unreadable, but uncomfortable on the eyes
[19:17] <zamn> ctrl +
[19:17] <zamn> :D
[19:17] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, thanks a bunch!
[19:17] <ThePI> Here's a bot to play with: http://micha.azuru.net/micha/micha.html
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, no problem. ;)
[19:17] <systemclient> how can I boot into console mode from a live CD?
[19:17] <zamn> terminal
[19:17] <newbzilla> dang, same question i asked earlier but now i can do it...
[19:18] <W4sp> zamn: A new installation? 9.10 is is three years old?
[19:18] <newbzilla> whats the command for uninstalling google chrome
[19:18] <Moonlightning> xangua: unexpected error from trying to launch myunity…
[19:18] <theadmin> newbzilla: I told you already, sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable
[19:18] <newbzilla> thanks theadmin i crashed my console a minute ago and lost the command
[19:18] <zamn> W4sp: its 12.04
[19:18] <systemclient> zamn: do you mean me?
[19:18] <zamn> I mean when i start my computer it just sits at the grub boot screen waiting for me to select the OS
[19:19] <theadmin> systemclient: You normally boot into text mode by appending "text" to your kernel commandine.
[19:19] <theadmin> systemclient: I don't see why livecd would be any different
[19:19] <theadmin> systemclient: But if you want to install through text mode, I suggest the alternate cd
[19:19] <W4sp> zamn: If you had 9.10 it will right boot into your login screen. You have GRUB2 as 9.10 is/was shipped with version 2
[19:19] <systemclient> theadmin: I just want to rescue a very old system
[19:20] <zamn> W4sp: yes but its not doing the behavior it says it would do on thne grub page
[19:20] <theadmin> systemclient: Oh, okay then, uh, may I suggest you the System Rescue CD?
[19:20] <theadmin> systemclient: http://sysresccd.org
[19:20] <systemclient> theadmin: I would need to burn that
[19:20] <newbzilla> ok, my main issue that i was working on earlier was that i cant get flash to run. any help
[19:20] <theadmin> systemclient: Or boot it off a USB
[19:20] <W4sp> zamn: Well then. You would need to describe the problem.
[19:21] <theadmin> systemclient: Though, this is Ubuntu support, I guess I shouldn't suggest Gentoo-based stuff here
[19:21] <Smoth> hello guys, i'have installed ubuntu minimal 12.04. During the boot i see just a black screen, is there any way to restore the normal kernel and daemon messages?
[19:21] <zamn> W4sp: when i start my computer *nothing* is being automatically loaded. Grub 2 just loads up and sits there waiting for me to hit enter to go into an operating system. There isn't even a timer.
[19:21] <systemclient> theadmin: as long as it works, I do not mind
[19:21] <W4sp> zamn: Does it boot when you press enter, does 'tab key' work?
[19:22] <systemclient> theadmin: It is a Pentium 3 Computer. I doubt that it can boot from USB
[19:22] <newbzilla> i cant get flash to work on firefox. what am i doing wrong?
[19:22] <theadmin> Anyway, brb
[19:22] <zamn> W4sp: yes it works fine when I hit enter but I want it to automatically boot into an os
[19:22] <newbzilla> it keeps saying plugin crashed
[19:22] <systemclient> newbzilla: did you install flashplugin-installer?
[19:22] <newbzilla> yes i did, sysclient, how can i verify?
[19:23] <W4sp> zamn: I see. You can check your grub config in /boot/grub/grub.cfg. If WAIT is -1 it will wait for a prompt.
[19:24] <Frostbyte> Can someone take a look at this jockey log exempt? http://pastebin.com/g0hC4kWD I'm trying to figure out why post-release does not install.
[19:24] <zamn> W4sp: there is no 'WAIT' entry in there
[19:24] <newbzilla> when i run sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer it says i already have the newest version
[19:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: hi, I'm back.
[19:25] <W4sp> zamn: Sorry, it is 'GRUB_TIMEOUT'.
[19:25] <newbzilla> hey, thanks deadmund
[19:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: still having problems?  Do you still get that flash is crashing and not just missing right?
[19:25] <newbzilla> yes
[19:26] <deadmund> newbzilla: firefox -> addons -> plugins.  WHat flash is listed there?
[19:26] <tziemann_> windows + L does not lock computer
[19:26] <newbzilla> hold on, im navigating there now
[19:27] <W4sp> zamn: You must run sudo update-grub afterwards. The amoutn is in seconds. 'GRUB_TIMEOUT=30' will give you 30 seconds to respond before it boots into the default.
[19:27] <zamn> W4sp: i have 2 lines that are: set timeout=-1 and 2 lines later set timeout=5
[19:27] <zamn> no GRUB_TIMEOUT
[19:27] <tziemann_> W4sp: I cannot find control panel
[19:27] <W4sp> tziemann_: What desktop environment do you have?
[19:27] <newbzilla> walk me through getting to that, firefox addon plugins
[19:28] <newbzilla> am i doing this with firfox open?
[19:28] <deadmund> newbzilla: open firefox, do you have a firefox button or the traditional file, menu, view, tools menu
[19:28] <tziemann_> ubuntu
[19:28] <deadmund> newbzilla: You're doing it in firefox
[19:28] <newbzilla> i go dashhome > firefox
[19:28] <deadmund> newbzilla: sure, whatever, open firefox however you want :)
[19:28] <zamn> W4sp: err its this:http://pastie.org/4576256
[19:28] <newbzilla> haha right? sorry, im SUPER noob in ubuntu
[19:28] <mcgwiz> Hello. I'm seeking to upgrade my server from 10.04.4 to 12.04.1. When I run 'do-release-upgrade -c' I get "New release 'precise' is available'." However, when I load <http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/> I get a 404, and nowhere on ubuntu.com do I see functioning references to or updated text about 12.04.1. Is there any way I can be certain that 'do-release-upgrade' is specifically referring to 12.04.1, rather than 12.04?
[19:29] <andrewx> Whats best way to identify user via a terminal, between normal user, and sudo-user?
[19:29] <W4sp> zamn: zamn comment the timeout and set GRUB_TIMEOUT as per documentation (see above).
[19:29] <andrewx> 'who' doesn't seem to display different info
[19:29] <newbzilla> the only options for firefox while its open is home, lol
[19:29] <trond-> hi I am trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.1, but I am getting you have held broken packages - when I run apt-get update I am not getting any error messages - what to do?
[19:29] <andrewx> ah... 'whoami'  lol
[19:29] <v24q1e-b> abend, gibt es für den starter eine möglichkeit den zu pimpen, mit myunity habe ich die hintergrundfarbe ausgeschallten und ihn verkleinert, aber zufrieden bin ich nicht über google habe ich auch nix gescheites gesehen :-(
[19:29] <Frostbyte> Um, can I get some help with that jockey log? (http://pastebin.com/g0hC4kWD - post-release updates don't install)
[19:29] <newbzilla> i have a websearch google bar and address bar but not file or option or anything
[19:30] <deadmund> newbzilla: in the url bar type: "about:addons" without quotes and press enter
[19:30] <newbzilla> thanks
[19:30] <trism> mcgwiz: 12.04.1 isn't actually out yet, although it is expected sometime today (not that it should really matter for an upgrade)
[19:30] <W4sp> tziemann_: That is in system settings, there's an icon with a monitor.
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> trond-, Do you have 10.04 backed up or at least what you can't lose?
[19:30] <deadmund> newbzilla: For the record, the menu for any open app is part of the top panel (like on OS X)
[19:31] <tziemann_> thank you
[19:31] <newbzilla> it says shockwave flash
[19:31] <deadmund> newbzilla: but anyway, you're there, so now look at the plugins and see what type of flash / version you're running
[19:31] <anonymous_> Hello
[19:31] <deadmund> newbzilla: shockware flash version... ?
[19:31] <anonymous_> Anonymous!
[19:31] <mcgwiz> trism: thanks. what do you mean it shouldn't matter for an upgrade?
[19:31] <newbzilla> 11.2 r202
[19:31] <deadmund> newbzilla: mmm, that's the newest version.  What other plugins do you have?
[19:31] <trism> mcgwiz: because the repos already have the upgraded packages, it is just the isos that haven't been updated yet
[19:32] <trond-> sk
[19:32] <mcgwiz> trism: gotcha, thanks much!
[19:32] <moes> zamn, Look in /etc/default/grub
[19:32] <Moonlightning> Is there any way to use a different console font? I rather dislike all of the available ones. I've tried changing it using `myunity`, but the GUI app keeps crashing immediately after launch. Something about getting a string instead of a word, I think. It's hard to tell…
[19:32] <W4sp> tziemann_: In system settings, keyboard you can see in 'shortcuts' and set the desired key combination. Meta4+l for instance
[19:32] <newbzilla> divx web player, djview, icedtea, itunes, libreoffice, quicktime, shockwaveflash, vlc multimedia, windows media
[19:32] <tziemann_> thanks
[19:32] <trond-> wilee-nilee, I haven't done it, but I can definitely do it.
[19:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: mmm, none of that should cause a problem.  Close firefox and open a terminal and pkill firefox  then run firefox in the terminal
[19:33] <zamn> moes: what am i looking for? GRUB_TIMEOUT? its set to 5 right now
[19:33] <newbzilla> do i just type pkill firefox in the term?
[19:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: yes
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> trond-, I would, I would not do a upgrade myself personally but a fresh install, but that is just me.
[19:34] <newbzilla> ok did that, then started through terminal. now try flash or recheck my addons?
[19:34] <deadmund> newbzilla: pkill = process kill  It kills processes by name.  You can view a list of current process' names in ps -e (but you don't need to do that now)
[19:34] <newbzilla> thanks for the info though
[19:34] <trond-> wilee-nilee, since I have these errors, I am considering doing the same. I have the Home partition on it's own, so I really don't need to do much backup.
[19:34] <deadmund> newbzilla: play some flash website and make flash crash and look at the terminal for any errors
[19:36] <newbzilla> its not saying app crash or plugin crash, there is just no video. just a grey page but all the buttons and other videos are present just not the one you want to play
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> trond-, Good I would do the fresh install then.
[19:36] <deadmund> newbzilla: make sure you're testing on youtube.
[19:37] <deadmund> newbzilla: I don't know what is wrong.
[19:37] <freezys> terminal always opened on startup, why? anybody can help me?
[19:37] <newbzilla> yes im on youtube, its just not working haha
[19:38] <T|ASK> Which ATI blob driver works with Kernel 3.5?
[19:38] <deadmund> newbzilla: I'm not sure.  My only other suggestion is to sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree  and then install it again.  Maybe same thing with firefox.  There is also this thread I found: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[19:38] <deadmund> newbzilla: Beyond that I do not know
[19:39] <newbzilla> i ran the purge, now type what to reinstall?\
[19:40] <deadmund> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:41] <newbzilla> E: package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate
[19:41] <newbzilla> thats what came up
[19:41] <deadmund> newbzilla: oh, poo.  Hang on
[19:41] <theadmin> deadmund: It's been "flashplugin-installer" for a long time now
[19:41] <theadmin> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[19:41] <deadmund> I think we differ on what a 'long time' is :P
[19:41] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree uses flash 9
[19:41] <deadmund> newbzilla: He's right about the name though
[19:42] <deadmund> BluesKaj: flashplugin-nonfree is not a package anymore
[19:42] <newbzilla> reinstalled checking now
[19:42] <deadmund> newbzilla: k
[19:42] <BluesKaj> it's listed in synaptic, deadmund
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> !find flashplugin
[19:42] <deadmund> BluesKaj: You're right: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flash&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[19:43] <newbzilla> if i could provide you a screenshot i would, but same thing
[19:43] <newbzilla> doesnt say crash anymore, just a grey screen
[19:43] <deadmund> newbzilla: http://www.postimage.org/
[19:44] <newbzilla> lol now how do i screenshot and save it into an uploadable file?
[19:45] <soliloquy1> Does the adwaita theme engine come installed by default on 12.04?
[19:45] <Kroach> how can I convert a plain text file into xml from the command line?
[19:45] <deadmund> newbzilla: search for the screenshot app in the dash.  Save it as any image file (.png is probs the default).  Do I have to explain basic file tree to you?
[19:45] <bekks> Kroach: By editing it and add valid xml formatting.
[19:46] <deadmund> Kroach:  That question does not make sense.  xml is just plain text with <tags> everywhere
[19:46] <newbzilla> probably, im not joking or trying to be stupid but maybe
[19:46] <deadmund> newbzilla: Ok. First take the screenshot.  Do you need help with that?
[19:46] <Kroach> I want to generate tags automaticly, so that quotes get converted into \&quot, etc.
[19:46] <newbzilla> lol i figured that part out, im lucky
[19:47] <deadmund> newbzilla: where did you save it?
[19:47] <newbzilla> http://postimage.org/image/d74lx2qvj/
[19:47] <deadmund> you got it
[19:47] <bekks> Kroach: Thats not necessarily valid XML.
[19:47] <deadmund> deadmund: It looks to me like it just isn't finished downloading the flash player / video.  How fast is your internet connection?
[19:47] <deadmund> Kroach: How does the computer know where to put the tags?
[19:48] <newbzilla> 24megabits
[19:48] <deadmund> newbzilla: that's a value, not a rate.
[19:48] <deadmund> but, if you mean 24 megabits / second, that's fast
[19:48] <newbzilla> yes
[19:48] <Kroach> deadmund: I think it does, when I create a new page in  CMS I enter plain text and it gets converted
[19:48] <deadmund> Kroach: CMS?
[19:49] <bekks> Kroach: Then only the CMS does know where to generally put tags.
[19:49] <bekks> Kroach: Thats absolutely nothing your computer knows.
[19:49] <newbzilla> 24megs down per sec
[19:49] <T|ASK> If i run fgl_gears I get suspicious framerates (very even values) like "300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS" is this normal?
[19:49] <Kroach> bekks: isn't there some command-line utility with the same functionality?
[19:50] <bekks> Kroach: No.
[19:50] <newbzilla> ok so yeah, its not downloading still haha
[19:50] <Kroach> damn
[19:50] <Plumblum> first time i notice that there are 3 floodbots :P
[19:50] <newbzilla> sorry, im at work trying to resolve this issue for a customer, cant figure it out but ive also never used ubuntu.
[19:50] <deadmund> newbzilla: I don't know :(
[19:50] <bekks> Kroach: Because only your specific CMS knows where it puts tags at, and unless the author of the CMS provides a CLI tool for doing so, no one else will know it.
[19:51] <Plumblum> anyway, when i want my sql database to accept incoming connections, should i remove bind-aress from the config ?
[19:51] <newbzilla> did i maybe miss anything on the fresh install? i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and installed on a new hard drive, did all the basics that weve been through and it just wont play flash
[19:51] <Kroach> bekks: oh, that makes sense, I didn't use many CMS so I didn't know, thanks
[19:51] <bekks> Plumblum: No. Yous should configure a valid bind-address, rather than <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:51] <deadmund> newbzilla: can you pastebin the output of your dmesg for me?  paste.ubuntu.org
[19:52] <Plumblum> bekks, im assuming because that is safer ?
[19:52] <deadmund> newbzilla: sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:52] <deadmund> newbzilla: dmesg is a terminal command
[19:52] <Plumblum> bekks, is there a way to add more adresses to that list ?
[19:52] <bekks> Plumblum: Because thats the only way to control the address your database binds to.
[19:52] <bekks> Plumblum: You have to take a look at the documentation of the database to get that info.
[19:52] <Ascavasaion> I did an upgrade and this new Unity thing in 11.04 has installed a yucky scrollbar on most of my applications.  I then upgraded to a Lubuntu setup, but the scrollbars are still stuffed.  Can someone tell me how to get back to real scrollbars?
[19:53] <Plumblum> bekks, it cant be that hard to tell mysql to allow incoming connections ?
[19:54] <oneselfstanding> hi all
[19:54] <deadmund> newbzilla: You there?
[19:54] <bekks> Plumblum: Just configure a valid bind-address. The advanced configuration of that specific parameter is covered in the documentation.
[19:55] <newbzilla> yes
[19:55] <Plumblum> bekks, but one ip wont do...
[19:55] <newbzilla> what did you mean dsmg or whatever
[19:55] <Plumblum> i guess i have to go through the documentation
[19:55] <deadmund> newbzilla: run dmesg  It's a terminal command.  copy and paste the output here: paste.ubuntu.com  then give me the link
[19:57] <newbzilla> ok sorry, didnt get what u needed but im doing it now.
[19:57] <newbzilla> paste.ubuntu.com/1163290/
[19:58] <newbzilla> did you see what i posted up there?
[19:58] <deadmund> newbzilla: CAn you pastebin lspci -k   for me?
[19:58] <deadmund> newbzilla: (yeah, that was what I wanted).  I don't see anything bad at all...
[20:00] <newbzilla> paste.ubuntu.com/1163296/
[20:00] <Zenigor> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS server edition on VMware ESXi 5.0. I edited /etc/network/interfaces to use a static IP configuration. Now on every boot it states " Waiting for network configuration…" then "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration…" then "booting system without full network configuration" During this time I can SSH into my server even though it says its booting without its full network config. Once the
[20:01] <deadmund> newbzilla: I was just checking to see what video driver you were using.  I have no idea what the problem is.  :(
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Does Linux automatically defragment the hard disk?
[20:01] <genii-around> !defrag
[20:01] <deadmund> Moonlightning: The ext file system to be exact.  But yeah.
[20:01] <newbzilla> man that kinda stinks, but thanks for all the help. anywhere else i can go to troubleshoot?
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Ooh. Thanks. ^^
[20:02] <deadmund> newbzilla: I posted a link a while ago that seemed to have some answers.  IDK though.  You can ask in this channel more.
[20:02] <newbzilla> thanks broski
[20:02] <deadmund> newbzilla: YOu should mention that it appears as if the flash content is not loaded.  NOT that flash is crashing.  Flash has a very specific crash screen
[20:03] <deadmund> newbzilla: http://www.daniel-ritter.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/The-Adobe-Flash-plugin-has-crashed.jpg   which you are not seeing so flash is not crashing
[20:03] <vn> is 12.04.1 out? so I can upgrade my 10.04 servers
[20:03] <deadmund> vn: yep
[20:03] <vn> deadmund: nice, as of when?
[20:03] <deadmund> vn: 12.04 came out in 20_12_ in _04_ (April)
[20:04] <vn> yes, but I meant .1
[20:04] <deadmund> vn: ohhh, sorry, didn't see that.
[20:04] <deadmund> vn: I have no idea about that
[20:04] <vn> k :)
[20:05] <Pici> vn: cdimages are still being tested.
[20:05] <vn> Pici: so it's a matter of days?
[20:05] <deadmund> newbzilla: Do you have a flash or ad block plugin?
[20:05] <Pici> vn: more like hours.
[20:05] <vn> o.O
[20:05] <vn> thanks
[20:07] <newbzilla> im not sure about that, do i check the same way i did for the flash?
[20:07] <deadmund> newbzilla: yeah, but it's in the addons section, not the plugins section
[20:08] <deadmund> newbzilla: in fact, do you have any firefox settings / bookmarks or anything?
[20:08] <newbzilla> nope, fresh install
[20:09] <deadmund> newbzilla: do this: close firefox, run this command mv ~/.mozilla ~/.backup.mozilla  open firefox again, test flash on youtube
[20:10] <newbzilla> mv ~/ (is there a space here) .mozilla?
[20:11] <deadmund> newbzilla: mv ~/(there is no space here).mozilla
[20:11] <deadmund> newbzilla: you can copy / paste this:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.backup.mozilla
[20:12] <newbzilla> so i type it just like this then       mv ~/.mozilla ~/.backup.mozilla
[20:12] <deadmund> newbzilla: yes  just like that
[20:12] <deadmund> newbzilla: You can try it.  Messing it up won't do anything bad
[20:13] <trond-> newbzilla, or if you want to use nautilus (file manager): First CTRL+H (to show hidden files and folders), then find .mozilla - then right click on it and choose rename - and rename it.
[20:14] <ircrobocop33> is chris pirillo really a puppy?
[20:14] <deadmund> trond-: newbzilla that is the equivalent of the command I gave but using the gui
[20:14] <AdvoWork> I have a 64mb file i'm trying to backup using rsync to another server(its a new server though), i'm doing: rsync -a -u -z -v -e 'ssh -i /home/Scripts/keys/mylocalhost-rsync-key' /var/backups/test_postgresql_backup/mybackup.20120823203622  root@IP:/home/backups_store/new_system/db_backups It says: sent 105 bytes  received 20 bytes  250.00 bytes/sec total size is 66778013  speedup is 534224.10, but no files are transfered, and no errors either. An
[20:14] <AdvoWork> y ideas please?
[20:14] <newbzilla> ah thanks causei  keep getting mv: cannot stat '/home/user/.mozilla; no such file or directory
[20:14] <trond-> deadmund, I know. For some using the shell is daunting.
[20:15] <felix_> Hi there. Today i've got a problem with my mouse and this is really annoying. in Firefox and Writer it scrolls inverted but in Systempreferences and Software center it scrolls normal, like ever before. I tested driver etc. the whole eve but nothing worked. so I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this. Thx and sry for my poor English
[20:15] <ircrobocop33> i fix
[20:15] <ircrobocop33> ed it
[20:15] <deadmund> newbzilla: really?  ARe you on the live CD / live USB ?
[20:15] <deadmund> newbzilla: why is your username 'user' ?
[20:15] <deadmund> trond-: yep, thanks :)
[20:15] <newbzilla> because thats what i named it
[20:15] <newbzilla> lol
[20:16] <newbzilla> also, i have a .backup.mozilla but nothing else that says mozilla
[20:16] <deadmund> newbzilla: oh, you already moved it! :)
[20:16] <newbzilla> haha good then i guess
[20:16] <newbzilla> now what?
[20:16] <deadmund> newbzilla: It was a rename.  It says rename ~/.mozilla to ~/.backup.mozilla so once you have renamed it you can't rename it again.
[20:16] <deadmund> newbzilla: start firefox, test flash
[20:17] <newbzilla> still no luck, i was so happy too :(
[20:17] <newbzilla> grey still
[20:17] <deadmund> newbzilla: mmmm IDK ! :(
[20:18] <newbzilla> this is making me want to /wrist
[20:18] <newbzilla> lolz
[20:18] <deadmund> sar
[20:18] <trond-> newbzilla, have you searched the web for ubuntu firefox flash ?
[20:18] <newbzilla> yes
[20:18] <deadmund> trond-: are you kidding?
[20:18] <newbzilla> i did that yesterday
[20:19] <newbzilla> for several hours, this was my last resort, the chat
[20:19] <deadmund> You'll find about 10,000,120394812304821 different threads all of them people not having any idea what is going on
[20:19] <Moonlightning> If I connect to a server using SSL, could a third party see what port number I'm connecting to?
[20:19] <trond-> newbzilla, should be an easy fix for this though... tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/89932/flash-not-working-in-firefox
[20:19] <trond-> deadmund, some are not used to search the web see ;)
[20:20] <newbzilla> reading it now, looks familiar but i dont know if ive read thjis same one. im on a different version of ubuntu
[20:20] <newbzilla> 12.04
[20:20] <newbzilla> not 11
[20:20] <deadmund> newbzilla: do you have any other flash things installed?  gnash or otherwise?
[20:20] <deadmund> trond-: newbzilla we already tried installing uninstalling installing flash
[20:21] <trond-> newbzilla, should be the same approach.
[20:21] <newbzilla> no, fresh install with only what you guys have been telling me to install
[20:21] <vn> so if I want to upgrade my 10.04.4 servers to 12.04.1 is it just dist-upgrade or its something else?
[20:21] <deadmund> newbzilla: open synaptic and search 'flash'
[20:21] <Moonlightning> vn: that confused me too…
[20:21] <Moonlightning> dist-upgrade doesn't update the OS
[20:22] <newbzilla> what synaptic
[20:22] <felix_>  Hi there. Today i've got a problem with my mouse and this is really annoying. in Firefox and Writer it scrolls inverted but in Systempreferences and Software center it scrolls normal, like ever before. I tested driver etc. the whole eve but nothing worked. so I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this. Thx and sry for my poor English. Note: it don't depends on the mouse
[20:22] <Moonlightning> It's like upgrade, but it allows new dependencies to be installed.
[20:22] <GoldStandard> Do you guys think contacting Canon about developing linux drivers for my printer would be worth the time?
[20:22] <deadmund> newbzilla: synaptic is a gui program, search for it in the dash
[20:22] <vn> Moonlightning: so, what does
[20:22] <trond-> newbzilla, follow the directions on that page. Start with the apt-get purge command. This command will remove all files related to flash
[20:22] <Moonlightning> do-release-upgrade
[20:22] <vn> ok, thanks
[20:22] <deadmund> trond-: we already did that
[20:22] <newbzilla> ive already done the purge command and reinstalled, and flashaid is no longer up
[20:22] <deadmund> newbzilla: I have to go :(  Good luck!
[20:23] <newbzilla> thanks
[20:23] <deadmund> newbzilla: I think you should search for flash in synaptic and make sure you have no other flash stuff installed.
[20:23] <Peetee> newbzilla: and what is your problem?
[20:23] <deadmund> newbzilla: good luck! :)
[20:23] <deadmund> Peetee: When he tries to play flash the flash content doesn't load.
[20:23] <newbzilla> flash is not working
[20:23] <deadmund> Peetee: Here is the image he sent me: http://postimage.org/image/d74lx2qvj/
[20:23] <GoldStandard> what are some good tools for ubuntu customization
[20:24] <trond-> newbzilla, http://askubuntu.com/questions/108989/adobe-flash-not-working-in-firefox
[20:24] <soliloquy1> goldstandard: ubuntu tweak, my unity, gtk 2/3 themes
[20:24] <GoldStandard> soliloquy1 ty
[20:24] <newbzilla> i just got an error when trying to run synapticsw
[20:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: ain't no w on the end of it
[20:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: synaptic
[20:25] <Peetee> newbzilla: WHAT ABOUT CHROME?
[20:25] <Peetee> newbzilla: have U tried google chrome?
[20:25] <Peetee> is the problem still?
[20:26] <vn> oh god, I'm reborn since I dumped firefox for chrome..
[20:26] <deadmund> newbzilla: also: sudo synaptic  ;)
[20:27] <Peetee> vn have U tried sources.list with rerouted servers?
[20:27] <Peetee> vn I mean upper distro
[20:27] <OnyxRaven> I'm having trouble finding an answer to this. Is there a good way to install a package (tree) currently in Debian's experimental repository on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:28] <Peetee> vn I mean automatic mirrors with upper distro
[20:28] <OnyxRaven> specificly http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/opencv
[20:29] <Peetee> vn precisely: upper distro URL path
[20:29] <Salah> Hi.
[20:29] <Peetee> hi
[20:30] <Peetee> vn it was just experimental idea
[20:30] <vn> Peetee: na, anyway I just started do-release-upgrade
[20:30] <D-coy> o/
[20:30] <vn> back in the days yes, I went in source.list and just changed the version name
[20:30] <Salah> I'm having a strange problem, and no search is finding it. I'd appreciate the help.
[20:31] <Peetee> vn I had always had some problems with dist upgrade, some programs couldn t work anymore after update, but I support innovation
[20:31] <Peetee> Salah: your problem:?
[20:32] <alexbh> hi... does someone have the skype 2.1 in .deb?
[20:32] <vn> Peetee: yea I know the thing...especially with perl, but never got a problem with basic packages
[20:32] <Salah> When I log in to my user, the screen says "Plymouth server disconnected" then puts me back at the login screen.
[20:32] <vn> such as postfix, apache, mysql, pgsql, ...
[20:32] <Salah> This does not happen when logging in to other users.
[20:33] <mm4> hi, I've tried to upgrade to 12.04 but the upgrade process fails every time after downloading 100MB of packages
[20:33] <Peetee> Salah: Have U tried delete bad config files from your account as root?
[20:33] <vn> mm4: maybe hd is full?
[20:34] <Peetee> mm4: is your connection OK?
[20:34] <mm4> yes
[20:34] <mm4> hd is 27% only, intenet is fine
[20:34] <Salah> Peetee: As far as I know there was no trigger. I don't mess around with sudo.
[20:35] <mm4> but last time I was installing some security updates I had to interrupt and since then I cannot upgrade
[20:35] <Peetee> mm4 do U have good sources list? /etc/apt/sources.list? like: deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty main restricted universe multiverse
[20:35] <Peetee> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[20:35] <Peetee> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:35] <Peetee> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[20:36] <FloodBot1> Peetee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <newbzilla> whats the command to install chrome
[20:36] <Salah> If I can access my encrypted home folder from the stuck account I would not mind creating another account.
[20:36] <Peetee> newbzilla: download deb package from google and then in terminal sudo dpkg -i google....deb
[20:37] <Peetee> newbzilla: where deb is the path to deb file
[20:37] <mm4> Peetee yes, I have a lot of sources there
[20:37] <Salah> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-chromium-google-chrome-web-browser-in-ubuntu.html
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Salah, that is chromium not chrome
[20:38] <mm4> the problem is not downloading the packages but something fails at the end
[20:38] <mm4> is there a console way to upgrade ?
[20:38] <trond-> newbzilla, no progress in flash in firefox?
[20:38] <Salah> wilee-nilee: Isn't Chromium just Chrome for Linux?
[20:38] <Peetee> mm4 and clean installation? I have heard it is sometimes better to do it clean from instCD
[20:39] <Peetee> mm4: of course don t forget to backup your data
[20:39] <newbzilla> no progress in firefox, want to know if chrome has it preinstalled
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Salah, yes, but the user is trying top install chrome.
[20:39] <mm4> Peetee yes, you're right, I should do that
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> to*
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Salah, different installs is all. ;)
[20:40] <Salah> Oh. Sorry, then.
[20:40] <trond-> newbzilla, don't think it has... did you get any information on any flash-alike plugins installed when running synaptics?
[20:40] <Salah> So does anyone know how to decrypt a given user's home folder from another account?
[20:40] <newbzilla> i dont know how to use synaptics, it confused me. want to walk me through what im looking for?
[20:41] <Peetee> newbzilla: Have you tried install Adobe Flash plugin in software center?
[20:41] <newbzilla> yes p
[20:41] <Peetee> *to install
[20:42] <Peetee> newbzilla: I don t know if it is true but I have read on one server that Flash is dead project for Linux (correct me anyone if it is not true)
[20:42] <hwkiller-netbook> yes and no
[20:42] <hwkiller-netbook> flash as a standalone plugin is dead.
[20:42] <trond-> newbzilla, let's start here: in Firefox - write about:plugins - See if you have flash there (should say something like shockwave)
[20:42] <hwkiller-netbook> flash in the form of chrome's pepper plugin, no
[20:42] <Salah> Yes, the Flash plugin for Linux is dead, according to several sources.
[20:43] <OnyxRaven> I'm having trouble finding an answer to this. Is there a good way to install a package (tree) currently in Debian's experimental repository on Ubuntu 12.04? specificly http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/opencv - 2.4.2
[20:44] <W4sp> OnyxRaven: I looked up the project and couldn't find anything. I recommend to contact the developer directly. (Interesting project.)
[20:44] <OnyxRaven> its in debian, can i just add their experimental tree to my sources.list  and do the install? or is that dangerous
[20:45] <W4sp> Salah: Adobe ceased active development for Flash about a year ago. They focus now on HTML5.
[20:45] <xangua> OnyxRaven: please don't mix repositories
[20:46] <W4sp> Salah: That's a good thing given its history of security flaws and Adobe's lack of capabilities to fix it.
[20:46] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm guessing that's a bad idea, W4sp, since ubuntu and debian have very different versions
[20:47] <W4sp> hwkiller-netbook: I'm not suggesting to mix anything. I asked to contact the development team directly.
[20:47] <OnyxRaven> ya
[20:47] <hwkiller-netbook> er oops, W4sp, I highlighted the wrong person
[20:48] <failedassertion> I would like to be able to grub-reboot into the same system with slightly different kernel command line options. i.e., I have an "fsprotect" option, and I want to be able to reboot once without it, and I can't need a KVM to do it
[20:48] <OnyxRaven> looks like there's some PPAs on launchpad
[20:48] <hwkiller-netbook> I meant to address the person asking
[20:48] <Salah> W4sp: Is there a disadvantage to moving to HTML5 ?
[20:48] <W4sp> OnyxRaven: Did you see hwkiller-netbook 's comment re. mixing 'repositories'? hwkiller-netbook is correct highlighting the risks.
[20:48] <newbzilla> sorry for the delay, been through that before though and yes, flash is there
[20:48] <OnyxRaven> I did.  and yeah, i'm not going to do it heh
[20:49] <newbzilla> shockwave flash 11.2 r202 is what i have
[20:49] <failedassertion> So far, I've been using the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX option, so fallback doesn't read-only my partitions
[20:49] <failedassertion> but when I grub-reboot 1
[20:49] <Costeelation> i can create a installation cd with all my modifications and apps?
[20:50] <failedassertion> the friendly recovery menu waits for user input and I can't get past it without a keyboard connected.
[20:50] <W4sp> Salah: Very much so. While Flash is 'free' in the sense it doesn't cost you anything to have a Flashplayer it is not free as in 'Open Source'. HTML5 is to become a standard that is supposed to support other media (movies and such).
[20:51] <Salah> Who's developing HTML5?
[20:51] <jhourani> can I disable root in nautilus? meaning I want to be able to open, copy, and edit files in Nautilus without having to worry about becoming root first
[20:52] <trond-> newbzilla, right. same as I have.
[20:52] <enneract1> Here's a silly one - is there any way to manually map hostname resolution? I'm at work and our local DNS server doesnt want to talk to my machine, I need to map a static local IP to a hostname
[20:52] <guntbert> Salah: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[20:52] <failedassertion> enneract1: /etc/hosts
[20:52] <enneract1> failedassertion: thanks ~
[20:52] <jhourani> you guys are ridiculous with the topic thing. If someone has a question let them ask it...geez
[20:52] <failedassertion> enneract1: np
[20:53] <trond-> newbzilla, what is the output of: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin
[20:53] <violinappren> !ot | Salah
[20:53] <newbzilla> run those one after the other?
[20:53] <Salah> Oh. Sorry then.
[20:53] <recon_lap> what the spanish channel called?
[20:53] <trond-> newbzilla, on one line
[20:53] <bkc_> jhourani: you don't want auto-root... ever... ^^
[20:53] <W4sp> enneract1: I would need to know exactly what your DNS server want to tell your machine.
[20:53] <guntbert> jhourani: not possible in a 1700+ support channel
[20:54]  * knyn is away: I'm busy, message me and I'll reply when back.
[20:54] <enneract1> W4sp: I'm getting SERVFAIL on nslookup
[20:54] <W4sp> !es | recon_lap
[20:54] <violinappren> recon_lap: #ubuntu-es
[20:54] <guntbert> !away > knyn
[20:54] <enneract1> W4sp: this is a windows house, unfortunately. There is me and one other person out of 90-odd people that use linux
[20:54] <newbzilla> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[20:54] <jhourani> bkc_, I just hate the inconvenience. like what if I want to download an application directly to /opt?
[20:54] <jhourani> I should be able to do that
[20:55] <enneract1> and all the windows machines can resolve the hostname
[20:55] <bkc_> jhourani: that's just a bad idea... :/
[20:55] <bugaloo> hi all... i have a old dv2000 laptop running ubuntu 12.04, and when I'm using it on battery the sound keeps "clicking"... it seems to me that sound is in powersafe mode or something and keeps going on and off... still, if i'm playing a mp3 or anything that uses the sound, the problem doesn't happen.. any advice?
[20:55] <jhourani> really? so it is convention to download it elsewhere, unpack or un-tar or whatever, then 'sudo mv' it to /opt?
[20:55] <guntbert> jhourani: that would mean that every web app has full access to your complete system
[20:56] <bkc_> jhourani: what guntbert said...
[20:56] <newbzilla> did yo7u get that last bit i put up?
[20:56] <guntbert> jhourani: how often do you do that?
[20:56] <jhourani> hmm...maybe 2 or 3 times a week?
[20:56] <trond-> newbzilla, hm, same here...
[20:56] <jhourani> just a pain
[20:56] <jagginess> max payne
[20:56] <jhourani> ^haha
[20:57] <guntbert> jhourani: why so often? what are you trying to do with your system?
[20:57] <jagginess> guntbert, too much morphine
[20:57] <jhourani> i am a software engineer...always using new devlopment tools
[20:57] <W4sp> enneract1: That seems to be the response as  a result from a DNS lookup from your machine. Likely that you do not have a FQDN within your office infrastructure. That isn't required but your DNS server must be made aware that his domain is 'somthingelse'.
[20:57] <f00bar80> is there a way or can i mirror any installed ubuntu to another box, and how?
[20:57] <jhourani> constantly downloading stuff seems like lol
[20:57] <violinappren> !tab | jhourani
[20:57] <jhourani> violina chill out
[20:57] <trond-> newbzilla, yup... I have the same path
[20:58] <marsfligth> How can I set full unattended system and applications updates?
[20:58] <violinappren> jhourani: it's hard to follow new questions if you dont specify who you are talking to
[20:58] <guntbert> jhourani: better listen to good advice
[20:58] <enneract1> W4sp: no doubt. Unfortunately, its a windows house, and the windows machines can resolve it, so it isn't going to be fixed.
[20:58] <jagginess> i am a guru.
[20:58] <W4sp> f00bar80: Mirrored servers as in SFTIII isn't supported.
[20:59] <trond-> newbzilla, flash is not working on any sites? Have you been to adobe.com and tested it there?
[20:59] <guntbert> jhourani: as a software engineer it cannot be difficult for you to run that process - and do you realize how many applications are to be found in the repos?
[20:59] <jagginess> trond-, flash for linux is dead.. unless mozilla adopts pepperapi to use chrome's flash releases
[20:59] <W4sp> enneract1: Tha'ts easy then. You can mod /etc/hosts for the few Linux boxes as only your local domain and some hosts withing your office are affected.
[21:00] <trond-> newbzilla, could you check if this site is working for you? http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:00] <abdelghani> some info please about using backtrack!!
[21:00] <jhourani> guntbert its not that its "hard"...just annoying lol
[21:00] <guntbert> !backtrack | abdelghani
[21:00] <mish-> Hi! - I have a ATI PCI video card that seems to use some of PCI-PCIe bridge, it appears in lspci as "04:00.0 PCI bridge: PLX Technology, Inc. PEX8112 x1 Lane PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge (rev aa)", but isn't detected by the ATI drivers, I'm wondering if anyone has a hint?
[21:01] <violinappren> marsfligth: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[21:01] <guntbert> jhourani: use the repos then
[21:01] <jhourani> yes I know some can be apt-gotten....but I also use a lot of other tools that arent
[21:02] <guntbert> jhourani: you really should adhere to tested "best practise" - only run a command as root when really necessary
[21:02] <jagginess> I sudo that.
[21:02] <jhourani> ok guntbert i got ya. Just looking to save myself a few minutes a day...you know us lazy engineers :)
[21:03] <jhourani> but good point about web apps having access to my machine...def not a good idea
[21:03] <jagginess> sudo vs "su do".
[21:04] <f00bar80> how to take a full ubuntu system backup
[21:04] <guntbert> jhourani: lets put it this way: you save a few minutes every day and loose hours every month because your system got broken by (put your choice of person/program here)
[21:04] <jagginess> f00bar80, i use sbackup just for /home
[21:05] <W4sp> f00bar80: You can use tar, cpio or dd perhaps?
[21:05] <f00bar80> W4sp, for all the system backup? and how to restore it on a new installation?
[21:05] <jimcooncat> f00bar80: there's partimage too
[21:05] <jhourani> guntbert what is your process for downloading and installing an app?  (not from the repo)
[21:06] <jagginess> jhourani, untarring, autoconf, make, and then use dpkg package tools
[21:06] <violinappren> f00bar80: or you should look into a disk imaging backup solution like http://clonezilla.org/
[21:06] <jagginess> f00bar80 apt-cache search clonezilla
[21:07] <jimcooncat> f00bar80: you're better off using what the system can do for you -- make a list of installed applications, then install those on the target systems. Move your customizations and /home over.
[21:07] <newbzilla> trond- it loaded the page but there were no videos or errors either
[21:08] <jhourani> jagginess, soooo may steps though! haha
[21:08] <jimcooncat> f00bar80: doing it that way will allow the installer to give you drivers for your new hardware, etc.
[21:08] <W4sp> f00bar80: Load the CD and use tar, dd or cpio for a restore. If you want more there is sbackup (python, <shudder>), online services and such.
[21:08] <canerd> list channels
[21:08] <guntbert> jhourani: 1) cd ~/downloads   2) apt-get whatever.tgz  3) tar xzf whatever.tgz  4) less README INSTALL 5) .configure 6) make (or whatever those files tell me) 7) sudo make install
[21:08] <jagginess> f00bar80, there's no point backing up anything outside home, except for third party .debs of course.. packages are always being  updated..
[21:08] <marsfligth> violinappren: Thanks, I already found that, but I'd hope to find a way to use the default Ubutuntu updated service that on security updates it very reliable and silent. I need that because I'm installing many Ubuntu to friends replacing m$, but all of theme have problems on updates/dist upgrade etc. So, maybe editing the 'Ubuntu update security service' configuration file
[21:08] <nethus> Hi everyone.  i have the following question: after logon i see the following message in the console:
[21:08] <jagginess> !mirror
[21:08] <nethus> *** /dev/md1 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[21:08] <nethus> *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[21:08] <nethus> *** System restart required ***
[21:08] <guntbert> jhourani: 4a) cd whatever     was missing
[21:08] <FloodBot1> nethus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <bugaloo> does anybody know how to disable the power_safe mode for the snd_hda_intel module , manually?
[21:08] <jagginess> marsfligth, i'd choose the closest mirror
[21:09] <nethus> what time will the reboot take?
[21:09] <k1l> nethus: depends :)
[21:09] <marsfligth> jagginess: What chanche using a closer mirror?
[21:09] <marsfligth> **change
[21:09] <jhourani> i got ya guntbert...was hoping you had written a magical script that did it all for you
[21:09] <jagginess> marsfligth, the http:// path in sources.list
[21:10] <W4sp> f00bar80: rsync is another option.
[21:10] <jagginess> !sources.list
[21:10] <violinappren> marsfligth: faster full updates instead of only security updates
[21:10] <nethus> k1l: /dev/mda is 450 GB
[21:10] <guntbert> jhourani: :) - my fingers almost do it by themselves - but I rarely need it :)
[21:11] <k1l> nethus: honestly, i cant predict the time
[21:11] <Night-hacks> I just installed cinnamon and i saw gnome classic in the sessions options, was it already there !!? or cinnamon installed it ?!
[21:11] <jhourani> guntbert, lol nice
[21:11] <notwo> Does anyone know any program that does cross browser check on an html file for 12.04?
[21:11] <k1l> Night-hacks: gnome-classic comes with the gnome3 base
[21:11] <jagginess> marsfligth, what country you irc'ing from? (so i can see in the mirrors list what to use)
[21:12] <marsfligth> violinappren: then, just using a close mirror Ubuntu update service changes behavior? This is a news for me.
[21:12] <k1l> Night-hacks: erm, it comes when you install the gnome-shell.
[21:12] <k1l> Night-hacks: its the 2d fallback from the gnome-shell
[21:12] <marsfligth> milan, italy
[21:13] <epinky> !it | marsfligth
[21:13] <nethus> k1l: not even a very rough guess?  will a night be enough?  or are we talking days?
[21:13] <violinappren> marsfligth: it (may) change the speed but not the behavior .. the behavior is determined by the method that you opt to use for automated updates.. be it the software-center provided one, unattended-upgrades or merely a bash script invoked as a cron job
[21:15] <lt_> hi all
[21:15] <jagginess> marsfligth, looks like you can use http://<country-code>.archive-ubuntu.com/ubuntu .. you probably just have to add "it" right after http (i did a geoip test and locates the ip in italy)
[21:16] <jagginess> marsfligth, this method is newer to me (the way i normally used to do it, is replace longer http:// urls from one of the closer mirrors to me)
[21:16] <marsfligth> I'm not interested on italian IRC. I just trying to understand if it's possible to modify the default behavior of the native Ubuntu update service in a way to update all app's and all added ppa's
[21:16] <W4sp> nethus: As it says, after reboot.
[21:16] <jagginess> marsfligth, my typo, it's said to be http://<country-code>.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[21:17] <jagginess> marsfligth, ppa is directly part of ubuntu.. it get's installed manually-- instructions are from the ppa site
[21:17] <jagginess> dam
[21:18]  * jagginess scratches his head
[21:18] <jagginess> marsfligth, meant " is not " part of ubuntu directly
[21:18] <nethus> W4sp: do you mean that the server will first reboot completely, and then starts checking while apache, mysql,... are started?
[21:18] <violinappren> marsfligth: the software center provided update facility SHOULD update everything if set to automatic updates
[21:18] <W4sp> nethus: No. Prior mounting volumes the fsck will take place.
[21:18] <violinappren> marsfligth: which repository gets left behind and not update?
[21:19] <jagginess> marsfligth, /etc/apt
[21:19] <jagginess> software center is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[21:19] <nethus> W4sp: ok, thank.  but are we talking hours or days for a volume of 450 GB?
[21:20] <Peetee> jagginess: what does it mean jagginess
[21:20] <jagginess> it means it's slow at anything. so I use apt-get.
[21:20] <Peetee> ok
[21:20] <nethus> W4sp: and can i speed up the process by emptying disk space before?
[21:21] <jagginess> nethus, it'll run for at least 2 hours..
[21:21] <jagginess> nethus, if it needs to be rebuilt
[21:22] <solars> hey, somehow my system is very slow, load avg is 2.xx but there is no process blocking a lot of cpu.. how could I find out what causes this?
[21:22] <marsfligth> ok, I already made a script t cron, and after many tests on different machines all have been success. The only doubt that I still have, is when Ubuntu asks for 'partial upgrade', in that case, I'll be more relaxed if was directly Ubuntu to manage all
[21:22] <marsfligth> **a script to cron
[21:22] <lt__> hi all
[21:22] <W4sp> notwo: AFAIK there is no such thing. There are online tools that provide you with it though. At least you have to deal with gecko and webkit. I always do it manually. If you find something more satisfying please let me know.
[21:23] <jagginess> marsfligth, be careful of ppa's, they can be risky and can cause more breaking than nec.
[21:24] <W4sp> nethus: If you refer to the time fsck requires to check your two HDD I can't tell exactly. I suppose you are concerend about downtimes or interrup in services...?
[21:24] <jhourani> livecoding.io
[21:25] <jhourani> ^put it in your browser...awesome!
[21:25] <jagginess> notwo, you mean to check out an html page with different browsers? only do that online, there are "user-agent" plugins for firefox
[21:25] <marsfligth> jagginess: ok, I know that is risky, but I can't leave the machines w/o app's updates, do you agree wit me?
[21:26] <W4sp> nethus: What's the fs type anyway?
[21:27] <jagginess> marsfligth, actually the security would be vital.. but you should probably set a condition if you're scripting to allow updates. Eg, to have a flagfile to indicate a "go" for an update. (I hear people use "puppet" for this kind of stuff but i never used it)-- you want to have a test machine do an update beforehand.. you don't mass breakage in one shot
[21:27] <Otkrick> guys, find . -type d -printf '%f\n' returns ". dir1 dir2 dir3". How I should remove "." in return? I need in return such as simply "dir1 dir2 dir3"
[21:28] <lt__> hmm
[21:29] <nethus> W4sp: i'm indeed concerned about downtime.  dev/md1 is the root partition (5 of 10G used), /dev/md2 is /home (144 of 450G used). both are ext3
[21:29] <markus__> hallo... i search maybe something what dont exist... but maybe one here have an idea... the guys in the ot channel told me to ask here
[21:30] <markus__> i search some tool to create programms... but no ordinary ide or something...
[21:30] <Dettorer> markus__: vim ?
[21:30] <markus__> so generelly somthing like kexi with a compiler :)
[21:30] <markus__> the tools wich i make are extreme simple but i need complex grafical reports... so 90% of the developing work would be for the reports...
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, gambas
[21:31] <W4sp> nethus: I see. / Would be quick as there's nothing on it really. /home ..? I don't dare to give you an uneducated guess. :-( What prompted the server to fsck after reboot?
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, better than VisualC
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, better than VisualBasic i mean
[21:31] <markus__> i know gambas
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, then dance
[21:31] <marsfligth> jagginess: some people told me about 'puppet', I had a quick look, but i read that it is commercial for more than ten pc's. In my case, averagely I make on Ubuntu 1 new pc every week more or less, then doing a quick count, I assumed that was not for me. Probabilly it is great for an enterprise
[21:32] <markus__> but it is much work to create diagramms and nice looking graphical prints
[21:32] <sfdsf> ï·’
[21:32] <markus__> and print-preview
[21:32] <jagginess> markus__, oh you're passing them.  If yes, I paste my script to see how to improve it
[21:33] <jagginess> sory
[21:33] <jagginess> marsfligth.
[21:34] <jagginess> "so use http://it. , a closer mirror .. you don't want slow updates for your customer" < marsfligth
[21:34] <jagginess> (i'm hoping i got it right)
[21:34] <markus__> what i need is a tool that allow me to create input-masks and reports rot the printing....
[21:34]  * jagginess clamps down on his tab
[21:34] <markus__> and that a should be able to compile...
[21:34] <jagginess> markus__, openoffice can do forms
[21:35] <marsfligth> jagginess: no, all pc's are in different places and each one haw own wan ip
[21:35] <markus__> e.g. pagemaker is able to create a DB with reports and forms and then i can export that in a standalone app
[21:36] <W4sp> nethus: Are you there, reading?
[21:36] <nethus> W4sp: i guess that's the script to check the software raid that runs on a regular basis
[21:36] <jagginess> markus__, have a look at "form" making with openoffice. It's powerful if you looked into it. (the oofice application that makes .odb can also work with network databases/tables/queries.. and you can "script" in openoffice too)
[21:36] <markus__> so what i mean is something like openoffice-base or kexi with a compiler
[21:37] <jagginess> markus__, join a oofice list, i'm sure there's all kinds of api's..
[21:37] <markus__> jagginess, ooffice is nice... but not what i need
[21:37] <brookquint> Hello all, I have recently forgotten my Admin account password on my Ubunutu 12.04 lts desktop version, how can I recover it?
[21:37] <markus__> i want to build later from that a programm...
[21:37] <jagginess> markus__, you never used it to it's fully potential my friend..
[21:38] <jagginess> markus__, you can use "online" network databases with it.
[21:38] <jagginess> markus__, and oofice is universal, it's on unix/mac/win/linux..
[21:38] <markus__> jagginess, that is all nice... but not what i search...
[21:38] <jagginess> markus__, essentially the .odb file is like an application.
[21:38] <marsfligth> jagginess: anyway, assuming that I use the script, how to cnon it has root via bash script? I'm finding trouble because it seems that 'crontab' accepts command only written directly by 'crontab -e'. Do you know some way to fix this problem?
[21:39] <jagginess> markus__, what i meant by "list" was a "mailinglist" for openoffice.. there must be millions of APi'S.
[21:39] <markus__> yes but someone can take a look for the logic behind - that i dont want first
[21:39] <markus__> 2nd someone could change something and destroy the system
[21:40] <W4sp> nethus: I see. As the fs is not damages you don't need to run it immediately. If errors are found it can take a two to four hours for ext3 hardware RAID. As yuors is s/w it should be faster.
[21:40] <jagginess> markus__, it's for an end-customer, why bother? they're not paying anymore support if you set this up for them..
[21:40] <markus__> for that i want to compile the projects finally to a closed source app
[21:40] <jagginess> damit
[21:40] <W4sp> nethus: All figures - as said - a guest. What was your estimate?
[21:41] <W4sp> nethus: s/guest/guess
[21:41]  * jagginess mixes mark* and mars* once again :(
[21:41] <jagginess> lol
[21:41] <nethus> W4sp: i really have no clue.  i guessed/hoped it could be done between 1 and 7 am, so less then 6 hours
[21:41] <markus__> jagginess, i want to create financial tools... billing, cost-calculateion, controlling, ...
[21:42] <jagginess> markus__, uh huh..
[21:42] <DeltaWhy> is it possible to change the order of preferred networks in 12.04?
[21:42] <jagginess> markus__, so use a database.
[21:42] <jagginess> if you know how to set one up.
[21:42] <DeltaWhy> it looks like they're just sorted by most recently used in the network manager
[21:42] <nethus> W4sp: but after googling i saw times up to 70 hours for 1,5T, so i'm kinda afraid
[21:42] <markus__> jagginess, what i have now is 95% build with excel and / or access
[21:42] <kantlivelong> hey all.. how can i downgrade a package? i used xedgers and now want to go back to xswat
[21:42] <nethus> W4sp: plus, i don't have physical access to the machine
[21:43] <markus__> to build it in oo-base or kexi is no problem...
[21:43] <markus__> but that i need is later a standalone running programm
[21:43] <jagginess> markus__, excel eh.
[21:43] <W4sp> nethus: If that's your scheduled maintenance window you might be fine. Again, based on findings and the fact that no errors are there. Do you have  a plan whast to do if the box takes longer, does not come up, fsck makes more damage than fixing something?
[21:43] <jagginess> markus__, you. use. openoffice on windows. ok? I DONT CARE ABOUT M$ EXCEL.
[21:43] <W4sp> nethus: I see, can you ssh in?
[21:44] <zoopp> Hi..is zeitgeist really required? What will be affected if I uninstall it?
[21:44] <markus__> no i switched not to linux
[21:44] <markus__> but all my old excel sheets works verry well in OO.org
[21:44] <markus__> and now i want to port the access stuff
[21:44] <markus__> kexi is good
[21:45] <markus__> oo-base too
[21:45] <jagginess> script kiddie
[21:45] <zoopp> Hi..is zeitgeist really required? What will be affected if I uninstall it?
[21:45] <nethus> W4sp: i have full ssh access.  there are of course daily offsite backups, but i can't quickly get a whole server up and running
[21:45] <black_ru> Hello
[21:45] <sideone> hey guys, anyone using logrotate with zip instead of gzip?
[21:45] <k1l> zoopp: the question should be: why would you uninstall it?
[21:46] <zoopp> k1l: to speed up the system..I imagine that all that data collecting is slowing it down.
[21:46] <W4sp> nethus: Maybe you can dd /home onto a different drive prior boot?
[21:46] <zoopp> k1l: I kinda have a performance issue right now.
[21:48] <k1l> zoopp: when its done it should be not slowing down anymore. it is used for the dash suggestions
[21:48] <nethus> W4sp: and in case of a real disaster i should be able to use the web interface of OVH to push a clean and empty ubuntu installation on the machine and rebuild from scratch.
[21:50] <sldkfjsl> Ò
[21:51] <W4sp> nethus: OVH...? Sorry, I don't know what that is. Also, I'm just saying that I saw some risks that you may wish to mitigate. I'm not suggesting in any way that everything will go south. :-)
[21:52] <zanberdo> I need to run chntpw from live ubuntu 12.04 however it's no longer in main line repos.  How can I figure out what repo I need to add in order to install chntpw?
[21:52] <nethus> W4sp: OVH = the owner of the datacenter the server is standing
[21:52] <markus__> noone any idea for my problem???
[21:52] <W4sp> nethus: OK, the French rackspacer.
[21:54] <markus__> i search something to create from the forms and reports of a database a programm
[21:54] <soliloquy1> I'm having trouble theming buttons in my GTK 3 theme - help??
[21:54] <markus__> so short something like kexi or openoffice-base BUT WITH A COMPILER!
[21:54] <W4sp> nethus: I somewhat had the impression the server is within your office. Sorry. But my findings still stand even if it's rented rackspace
[21:55] <goodtime> hello
[21:56] <goodtime> this client is weird
[21:57] <rb46> ciao
[21:57] <rb46> !list
[21:57] <Jarrydx26> Is it better to store my data on a cloud , then on a harddrive that may get damage in a fire ?
[21:58] <k1l> Jarrydx26: that would be a topic for the offtopic channel
[21:59] <mophead> Hey everyone! How do I get rid of the thing in the top left on the screen that brings up the screen changer? I don't know what it's called so I can't google it. I"m in 12.04 with cinnamon, by the way.
[22:00] <k1l> mophead: cinnamon is not supported here. ask the mint guys
[22:00] <Jarrydx26> K1| : okay thanks will have a peek
[22:00] <mophead> k11 do they have a channel?
[22:01] <nethus> W4sp: thanks for all your help. I think I'll take a look into a disaster recovery plan and hardware first, and then go for it.
[22:01] <cellofellow> My touchpad is far to sensitive, the mouse moves too fast, even though sensitivity and acceleration are turned all the way down.
[22:01] <nethus> W4sp: slightly related: i guess i still can install upgrades while i'm not restarting?
[22:03] <dakar> hi
[22:03] <dakar> a question
[22:03] <dakar> is really nescesary firewall ??
[22:04] <schultza> an answer
[22:04] <schultza> yes...
[22:04] <schultza> there is approximately 6+ billing people living on this planet. How many of them do you trust?
[22:05] <k1l> dakar: do you have a real issue?
[22:05] <schultza> Sounds like he needs to reconfigure it to allow something to pass through.
[22:06] <Jarrydx26> Dakar probably shocked @ ubuntu dont need much firewall protection as windows lol
[22:06] <jagginess> dakar, if you have a little "box" router, that is already a firewall for you.. so no need to make a second one on your linux machine
[22:07] <schultza> Again, dakar, what are your specific question(s) about the firewall?
[22:07] <alien64> oh no #ubuntu has turned into a firewall cannel ?
[22:07] <alien64> channel
[22:08] <schultza> There was a partial question about the firewall from dakar. We haven't gotten any more information from him.
[22:09] <schultza> s/gotten/received
[22:10] <usr13> dakar: no
[22:11] <W4sp> nethus: You said that fsck is a routine and not caused by anything else. So it's only a flag set to fsck the partition before you mount it. In theory, you can keep it running as you don't need to reboot. You can also install updates. You said upgrades. What version do you have?
[22:11] <usr13> schultza: Most everyone has a router between them and the Internet and so they dont' need a firewall on the PC.
[22:12] <alien64> yeah if its turned on lol
[22:12] <usr13> schultza: A firewall should be between your PC and the internet, (a separate device). Hince the term "firewall router".
[22:12] <Jarrydx26> Lol there goes dakar eaten by the firewall
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> i have a firewall in my router and ip tables enabled on my pc
[22:13] <alien64> quest has theres turned of by default on the routers they give out
[22:13] <nethus> W4sp: 12.04 LTS
[22:13] <schultza> Or the device that creates another link or connection, like a virtual network. Most of those are configured on the computers themselves for individuals, not organizations.
[22:13] <usr13> MonkeyDust: I have a linux router, (dd-wrt).
[22:13] <Moonlightning> How long are non-LTS releases supported for?
[22:14] <k1l> Moonlightning: 18 month
[22:14] <Moonlightning> Oh.
[22:14] <W4sp> nethus: Then it's only an update, you can install them. See if any SQL engine requires update as well. See doc prior update.
[22:14] <Moonlightning> So if I just get the newest versions when they're released, everything will always still be supported? XD
[22:16] <cellofellow> My touchpad is far to sensitive, the mouse moves too fast, even though sensitivity and acceleration are turned all the way down.
[22:22] <iceroot> Moonlightning: correct
[22:22] <damms005> Pls if I execute:  <dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/my.iso>  Can I mount my.iso?
[22:22] <iceroot> Moonlightning: or you will always use only lts versions and change every two years
[22:23] <iceroot> damms005: yes
[22:23] <jagginess> damms005, why not?
[22:23] <iceroot> damms005: but it would be better to put the iso not directly in /
[22:23] <damms005> iceroot:  <dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/my.iso>  I get error that my.iso is not a block device
[22:24] <iceroot> damms005: from dd?
[22:24] <jagginess> damms005, maybe it's a pcm disk
[22:24] <dynesh> can anyone help me with a internet connectivity issue?
[22:24] <jagginess> damms005, audio cd?
[22:25] <damms005> mount -a  /my.iso  <error: not a block device>
[22:25] <jagginess> damms005, -o loopback
[22:25] <usr13> dynesh: What seems to be the problem.
[22:25] <jagginess> damms005, no need for -a in this case
[22:25] <iceroot> damms005: -a means to mount everysthing inside /etc/fstab
[22:25] <jagginess> damms005, mkdir /mnt/myiso , mount -t auto -o loopback /pathto/my.iso /mnt/myiso
[22:25] <dynesh> i can see high signal strength but no connectivity
[22:26] <damms005> jagginess: Pls what does the -o option does explicitly?
[22:26] <jagginess> damms005, man mount<enter>
[22:26] <iceroot> damms005: -o == option
[22:26] <k1l> damms005: you are using mount with the wrong variables. better have a look into the documentaion
[22:26] <damms005> So loopback will....?
[22:26] <dynesh> usr13 : i can see high signal strength but no connectivity
[22:27] <usr13> dynesh: Wireless?
[22:27] <dynesh> usr13 : yep...
[22:28] <usr13> dynesh: What is the signal report from iwconfig?
[22:28] <dynesh> usr13: i am absoolutely new to ubuntu...so, can u tell me wat to look for in ifconfig?
[22:29] <schultza> he's asking about results from iwconfig (not ifconfig)
[22:29] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig
[22:29] <dynesh> usr13: it says no wireless extensions
[22:30] <jagginess> i think iwlist is the proper command.
[22:30] <schultza> iwconfig is working for me...
[22:30] <damms005> Pls any java emulatorfor linux?
[22:30] <usr13> dynesh: lspci |grep ireless  #Tell us what wireless chip you have.
[22:31] <dynesh> usr13: AR9285
[22:31] <damms005> Something to run .jar files on Ubuntu (I used to know KEmulator for windows)
[22:32] <jagginess> damms005, yeah there is, apt-cache search webstart
[22:33] <usr13> dynesh: Do you have it connected wirelessly now?
[22:33] <dynesh> usr13: yes it is connected.
[22:33] <usr13> dynesh: Correction:  Do you have it connected via wired connection now?
[22:34] <dynesh> usr13: wired connection isn't working
[22:34] <usr13> dynesh: Do you h ave 12.04 installed?  Is it updated?
[22:34] <dynesh> usr13: yes i have
[22:34] <damms005> jagginess: How do I use it? It just opened some processes (I gues) and exited (command line)
[22:35] <schultza> sudo apt-get install [pkg]
[22:35] <usr13> dynesh: is it a lapotp?
[22:35] <dynesh> yes dell vostro 1014
[22:35] <tziemann__> usr13: gets 2 thumbs up
[22:35] <dynesh> usr13: yep. dell vostro 1014
[22:35] <usr13> tziemann__: I dono what for, but thanks anyway...  :)
[22:36] <tziemann__> we talked earlier about iptables
[22:36] <damms005> jagginess: How do I use it? It just opened some processes (I gues) and exited (command line)
[22:36] <noname120> I m having issues getting my b43 wireless chip working on ubuntu, but this works on backtrack-linuxm do you have an idea how to get it working ?
[22:37] <Moonlightning> What's the difference between desktop and server?
[22:37] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig |pastebinit
[22:37] <Moonlightning> What nonessential packages are installed by default?
[22:37] <Moonlightning> Can I upgrade from desktop to server?
[22:38] <Moonlightning> Is there a minimal version of Ubuntu?
[22:38]  * Moonlightning /all/ the questions!
[22:38] <dynesh> usr13: pastebinit is not currently installed
[22:38] <bkc_> Moonlightning: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server afaik
[22:38] <usr13> Moonlightning: You can just install what ever server software you want.
[22:39] <usr13> dynesh: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:39] <bkc_> Moonlightning: for the minimal, afaik they still release ubuntu base :)
[22:39] <Moonlightning> bkc_: huh?
[22:39] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig |pastebinit  #and send us the resulting URL
[22:40] <usr13> dynesh: (A form of cut-and-paste that you may not know about:  Highlight text, hit middle moues button to dump.
[22:41] <bkc_> Moonlightning: to migrate from ubuntu desktop to server, do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server...
[22:41] <Moonlightning> Right, got that.
[22:41] <dynesh> usr13: the laptop isnot connected to the internet, how will it, connect and install pastebinit
[22:41] <Moonlightning> Can I just switch to minimal, though? I have the main desktop version right now…
[22:41] <usr13> dynesh: I thought you just told me that it was connected via wired connection, and that you had done updates on it.  ?????
[22:42] <iceroot> Moonlightning: server is the same as ubuntu but without the gui, everything else is the same
[22:42] <usr13> dynesh: Do you have the switch turned off?
[22:42] <bkc_> Moonlightning: well... minimal is the base-installation... meaning you still have it... if you want a clean minimal, reinstall :/
[22:42] <dynesh> usr13: it has updates which i connected thru my office wifi, this laptop is not even able to connect thru wired connection
[22:42] <Moonlightning> iceroot: okay, thanks
[22:43] <Moonlightning> bkc_: would it be mostly the same if I just uninstalled all the nonessential packages?
[22:43] <dynesh> usr13: is there any router settings that i might have to change?
[22:43] <usr13> dynesh: I'm confused.  I thought you said that the wireless adapter was not working on this laptop?
[22:43] <iceroot> Moonlightning: releases before 12.04 have different kernels for 32bit but with 12.04 only the gui is the difference
[22:43] <usr13> dynesh: You just said that iwconfig reported "No wireless extensions"
[22:44] <everydaylinuxuse> dynesh how are you connected to the internet at the moment. presumably you are using another computer
[22:44] <bkc_> Moonlightning: yes
[22:44] <dynesh> everydaylinuxuse :yes, thru a friends computer
[22:44] <Moonlightning> Hence: [15:37:30] < Moonlightning> What nonessential packages are installed by default?
[22:44] <usr13> everydaylinuxuse: He just told us that he is NOT connected to the internet with the laptop and is using another computer to talk to us.
[22:44] <iceroot> !purelxde | Moonlightning
[22:44] <bkc_> Moonlightning: just apt-get purge <s**t-I-dont-want> and you'll be good to go :)
[22:45] <iceroot> Moonlightning: read that link and do the part to remove the ubuntu packages
[22:45] <Moonlightning> bkc_: right, but I don't know which ones are are essential to the system.
[22:45] <dynesh> usr13: u got the story wrong, im using this chat thru another computer. my laptop is not able to connect in both the ways- wired/wireless
[22:45] <iceroot> Moonlightning: "my"link is showing you the package names
[22:45] <everydaylinuxuse> ok are you sure there isn't a button on the laptop that turns the wireless on and off.
[22:45] <bkc_> Moonlightning: well... I'd suggest a clean install :)
[22:45] <usr13> dynesh: Does the network-manager show any wireless networks?
[22:45] <iceroot> Moonlightning: if that is a fresh installation, reinstall the system with minimal/server
[22:45] <dynesh> yes, it does
[22:45] <usr13> dynesh: Do you see the network-manager?
[22:46] <dynesh> usr13..it does
[22:46] <Moonlightning> bkc_: but if minimal is the same, minus a bunch of packages…
[22:46] <Moonlightning> I can just uninstall those packages…
[22:46] <usr13> dynesh: It shows wireless networks that are available?
[22:46] <Moonlightning> I'm on a neighbor's connection atm, trying not to download much.
[22:46] <iceroot> Moonlightning: minimal is the base of everything
[22:46] <bkc_> Moonlightning: sure... if you know which onew ;)
[22:46]  * W4sp <facepalm>
[22:46] <Moonlightning> bkc_: I don't, though. That's why I'm asking.
[22:46] <smarqle> I'm using Rhythmbox with Lastfm and have a question. When I play artist stations they get saved in  the column on the left, but there seems no obvious way of removing them. I was hoping right clicking would do it. That's how it works with the Lastfm scrobbler client (on windows and Debian when I tried it on those)
[22:46] <dynesh> usr13: yes, and it also shows it is connected, but when i open my browser, i am unable to connect to the web
[22:47] <usr13> dynesh: Open a terminal and type:  ping -c3 av.com    #Tell us if it pings.
[22:47] <iceroot> dynesh: what is the output of "ifconfig" "ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>" and "ping -c 4 google.com"
[22:47] <iceroot> !paste | dynesh
[22:47] <bkc_> Moonlightning: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-minimal <-- there's the meta-package for minimal, just remove everything that isn't in the "dependency"-list :)
[22:48] <dynesh> usr13: it doesnt respond..no messsages
[22:48] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install hping3
[22:48] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install nmap
[22:48] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig  does not tell you anything?
[22:49] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install python-scapy
[22:49] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install metasploit
[22:49] <everydaylinuxuse> and it is the same connection that your friend's computer is using? that is weird
[22:49] <Moonlightning> !flood | tziemann__
[22:49] <iceroot> Moonlightning: download the minimal/netinstall image (40mb) and install the system, everything else will not result in a real miniaml system
[22:49] <dynesh> everdaylinuxuse: yes!!
[22:50] <Moonlightning> Bah. I just installed the system a few days ago…
[22:50] <bkc_> iceroot: if he purges everything except for the things in ubuntu-minimal, then yes... it will be a clean install...
[22:50] <Benguin> http://pastebin.com/EWeqGdyp :C Help! I broke stuff and can't install or upgrade anything
[22:50] <bkc_> s/clean install/minimal install/
[22:50] <dynesh> usr13: in iwconfig, wlan0 gives the name of my ESSID, access point, bit rate n everything
[22:50] <dynesh> usr13: but still im unable to connect
[22:50] <dynesh> to the intermnet
[22:51] <tziemann__> !flood | Moonlightning
[22:51] <iceroot> bkc_: normally that will break the system and will take very very long
[22:51]  * Moonlightning blinks
[22:51] <iceroot> bkc_: because that method is not tested and sometimes there are issues with ubuntu-base
[22:51] <Moonlightning> When did I pastedump a bunch of stuff?…
[22:51] <bkc_> iceroot: and that's why I moved to Arch ^^
[22:52] <usr13> dynesh: ifconfig   #See what IP address you have, and tell us.
[22:52] <Moonlightning> Anyway. Where can I get the minimal image for powerpc?
[22:52] <tziemann__> sorry i thought i was typing into the terminal
[22:52] <bkc_> Moonlightning: tried google? :)
[22:52] <usr13> dynesh: Does it show an IP address?
[22:52] <iceroot> !minimal | Moonlightning
[22:52] <Moonlightning> And, can I just install on top of what I have now, so that I don't have to copy everything over again?
[22:52] <dynesh> usr13: <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:52] <usr13> dynesh: ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>   #Does it ping?
[22:53] <iceroot> Moonlightning: if you have an extra home partition yes
[22:53] <brookquint> Can anyone assit me with booting into single user mode via init=/bin/bash?
[22:53] <Moonlightning> …I don't. Everything's on one partition… >.<
[22:53] <dynesh> usr13: yes, it says, 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packetloss
[22:54] <usr13> dynesh: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #Tell us what the nameserver IP address is
[22:54] <iceroot> Moonlightning: first, why you want minimal?
[22:54] <Moonlightning> …uhh…
[22:54] <iceroot> Moonlightning: second, why you just dont disable X11 and boot into the shell?
[22:54] <usr13> dynesh: It should probably say;  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>   #And maybe another, what does it say?  Any other addresses?
[22:55] <Moonlightning> I just don't want a bunch of stuff I'm not going to use. I installed Linux because it's an old computer and I want it to run /fast./
[22:55] <dynesh> it says, <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:55] <iceroot> Moonlightning: it will be the same speed if you dont start X11
[22:55] <Moonlightning> Even just logging in on a tty takes about five seconds, though…
[22:55] <bkc_> Moonlightning: then I'd suggest every single distro, except ubuntu/mint ^^
[22:55] <Moonlightning> I do want a GUI, though, so I can run Firefox|Safari|some-modem-browser
[22:55] <Moonlightning> …argh.
[22:55] <iceroot> Moonlightning: that is more an issue of the bashrc which is big in ubuntu and takes some time
[22:56] <usr13> dynesh: One more test:  route -n   #Tell us if it gives <IP_ADDRESS>  as gateway?
[22:56] <Moonlightning> iceroot: I don't use bash ;)
[22:56] <iceroot> Moonlightning: you want a gui? you said you want minimal
[22:56] <iceroot> Moonlightning: minimal = no gui, the same for server = no gui
[22:56] <bkc_> Moonlightning: ubuntu-minimal doesn't incluge a gui... :/
[22:56] <Moonlightning> Yes, but I can just `apt-get install` the GUI, can't I?
[22:56] <dynesh> usr13: yes,
[22:56] <bkc_> sure
[22:56] <Moonlightning> Well, then~
[22:56] <Moonlightning> ! *
[22:56] <iceroot> Moonlightning: ...
[22:57] <iceroot> Moonlightning: that does not make sense
[22:57] <Moonlightning> …wait.
[22:57] <usr13> dynesh: Ok, for some reason, your friend's router did not give nameserver IP, so you can fix it like this:
[22:57] <Moonlightning> Don't tell me the only difference between main and minimal is the GUI…
[22:57] <bkc_> but why? why not just install LUbuntu/Xubuntu/whatnotBuntu ?
[22:57] <iceroot> Moonlightning: you want to remove the gui and want to install minimal to install a gui then?
[22:57] <bkc_> Moonlightning: basically... yes
[22:57]  * Moonlightning headdesks.
[22:57] <Moonlightning> Well, never mind.
[22:57] <usr13> dynesh: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf    #and add a line at bottom:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:57] <Squarepy> or use a text browser
[22:57] <Moonlightning> How do I make the system in general faster, then?
[22:57] <bkc_> Moonlightning: + some good-to-have gui-apps ...
[22:57] <iceroot> Moonlightning: if you want a light version of ubuntu, try lxde (lubuntu-desktop)
[22:58] <Benguin> :C Help! I broke stuff and can't install or upgrade anything http://pastebin.com/EWeqGdyp
[22:58] <usr13> dynesh: Save and exit and you should be able to brouse the internet.
[22:58] <Moonlightning> Squarepy: text browsers aren't supported by most websites…
[22:58] <bkc_> Moonlightning: remove Gnome/KDE/Xfce and install LXDE... or just a clean openbox :)
[22:58] <Moonlightning> !pm | Nausiicaa
[22:58] <iceroot> !purelxde | Moonlightning
[22:58] <usr13> dynesh: Or, you could try and get the router to give the information:   dhclient wlan0
[22:58] <iceroot> Moonlightning: that will make the system faster
[22:58] <usr13> dynesh: sudo dhclient wlan0
[22:58] <Moonlightning> …oh, okay, thanks.
[22:59] <drag0nius> how to restart connection on interface after changing interfaces?
[22:59] <usr13> dynesh: You could try that first, it may pick up the nameserver IP and edit the file for you.
[22:59] <W4sp> drag0nius: ifconfig <IF> up
[23:01] <usr13> drag0nius: You could just restart the network.  sudo service networking restart
[23:01] <dynesh> usr13
[23:01] <dynesh> usr13
[23:01] <usr13> dynesh: Yes?
[23:01] <drag0nius> stop: Unknown instance:
[23:01] <drag0nius> networking stop/waiting
[23:02] <dynesh> usr13: i tried, rewriting the nameserver and saved but still the issue s not solved
[23:02] <usr13> drag0nius: You could just restart the network.  sudo service networking stop ; sudo service networking start
[23:02] <usr13> dynesh: host av.com
[23:02] <usr13> dynesh: Does it give you any information?
[23:02] <dynesh> usr13
[23:03] <dynesh> usr13: nope
[23:03] <usr13> dynesh: sudo dhclient wlan0
[23:03] <usr13> dynesh: What does ^^^ that do?
[23:03] <dynesh> usr13 : it says, file exists
[23:04] <usr13> dynesh: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #quote to me the last line
[23:04] <dynesh> nameserver 127.0.01
[23:04] <dynesh> <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:04] <Moonlightning> …?
[23:05] <dynesh> usr13: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:05] <usr13> dynesh: Edit /etc/resolv.conf  gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf   and change <IP_ADDRESS>  to  <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:05] <iceroot> usr13: 12.04 is using a different method for dns
[23:05] <usr13> dynesh: So that you only have one nameserver line and it says   nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:05] <iceroot> usr13: <IP_ADDRESS> is correct
[23:05] <usr13> iceroot: Really?
[23:06] <everydaylinuxuse> could it be a firewall issue?
[23:06] <iceroot> usr13: yes, dnsmask or something like that
[23:06] <W4sp> usr13: Probably the DHCP server isn't feeling well. See if resolv.conf.tail can do for you.
[23:06] <dynesh> usr13: i have two lines, one says <IP_ADDRESS> and the other one says <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> dynesh  the first is your router, the second is your pc
[23:07] <iceroot> dynesh: you are using 12.04?
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> <IP_ADDRESS> islocalhost
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost*
[23:07] <dynesh> usr13: yes..
[23:07] <usr13> dynesh: remove the one that says <IP_ADDRESS>   (So that you only have one nameserver line that says  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> )  (sorry, I told you wrong the first time)
[23:08] <usr13> W4sp: resolv.conf.tail  ?
[23:08] <jdcm> hola
[23:09] <jdcm> necesito alguien que me ayude con un problemita
[23:09] <dynesh> usr13: yes
[23:09] <MonkeyDust> !es
[23:09] <usr13> dynesh: Is it working now?
[23:09] <dynesh> usr13: no
[23:10] <usr13> iceroot: Are you sure?  Is 12.04 using some other file?  If so, what is it?    W4sp ????
[23:10] <ratbert90> j #bash
[23:10] <usr13> iceroot: How is Ubuntu 12.04 resolving domain names?
[23:11] <dynesh> iceroot: yes
[23:12] <iceroot> usr13: man dnsmasq
[23:12] <L3top> usr13: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:12] <jdcm> i need help
[23:12] <iceroot> usr13: thats the way how 12.04 is using dns now
[23:12] <L3top> this is a template which gets dumped to resolv.conf usr13.
[23:12] <L3top> that is why it begins "do not edit this by hand"
[23:12] <iceroot> usr13: resolc.conf will contain <IP_ADDRESS> were dnsmasq is running and doing its job
[23:12] <usr13> dynesh: ls /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:13] <K350> The web-spellcorrector correct english but not my language - Swedish. What to do?
[23:13] <jdcm> i wanna install Linux Kubuntu on my pc, what would i do to keep my files from windows 7?
[23:13] <usr13> dynesh: Does that file exist?
[23:13] <iceroot> usr13: with 12.04 we now have a dns-cache-server on the local machine
[23:13] <dynesh> usr13 :no such file in directory
[23:13] <usr13> iceroot: Then why does dynesh not have that file?
[23:14] <hillshum> jdcm: Have you considering using Wubi?  That's the easiest way, though it does have some limitations
[23:14] <iceroot> usr13: linux mint, not 12.04 or something like that i guess
[23:14] <SkippersBoss> jdcm install Kubuntu next to win7
[23:14] <iceroot> usr13: as usual :)
[23:14] <usr13> dynesh: lsb_release -a  #Tell us what that says.
[23:14] <L3top> usr13: sorry cat /etc/resolvconf/resolve.conf.d/head
[23:14] <jdcm> yes, but i want have only linux
[23:14] <usr13> dynesh: Is it Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Mint or....?
[23:15] <dynesh> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:15] <jdcm> yes hillshum but, it runs only with demo mode
[23:15] <usr13> iceroot: So, what is the deal?
[23:15] <L3top> dynesh: cat /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:15] <dynesh> usr13: 12.04 LTS , precise
[23:15] <hillshum> jdcm: Your best option is to put all your files on a USB HDD or something first.
[23:15] <iceroot> usr13: sometimes i am wrong :)
[23:15] <everydaylinuxuse> jdcm. exactly as hillshum said