[06:14] <TaJMoX> How do I use an image as the panel background in XFCE ?
[06:15] <MrOtacon> neozen: Ok - thanks man
[06:15] <k1gwb> SperMite_: i am
[06:15] <neozen> Ravenndude`: I use mplayer personally
[06:15] <neozen> Ravenndude`: mplayer-nogui specifically
[06:15] <MTecknology> crimsun, my progs still freeze/crash when i try to record
[06:15] <upfwnv03> MrOtacon you can also do a kill -KILL <pidofprogramtokill>
[06:15] <SperMite_> k1gwb have any problems getting it setup?
[06:15] <brianm_> HEy all. Is it possible to do a 6.06 LTS to 6.10 upgrade without X? (ie, update-manager)
[06:16] <neozen> brianm_: yes
[06:16] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:16] <crimsun> MTecknology: are you actually setting an element to Capture _and_ unmuting Capture?
[06:16] <neozen> brianm_: something like sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:16] <MTecknology> crimsun, .... don't know
[06:16] <neozen> ...make that apt-get
[06:16] <Ravenndude`> The reason I ask is because totem automatically plays the movie when I insert a disc, but when I try to open totem and play the disc it says I need a plug in. VLC plays it fine, but about once every two min for ten seconds, I have no sound
[06:16] <crimsun> MTecknology: then no, you're not.  Do so.
[06:16] <brianm_> neozen: neozen doesn't do the distriubtion
[06:17] <torpedo|dog> Is anybody here familiar with the ipw4965
[06:17] <MTecknology> crimsun, .........
[06:17] <vzduch> neozen: aptitude is just fine
[06:17] <brianm_> there are various instructions around but they all say "beware, dragons be thar!"
[06:17] <neozen> brianm_: eh?
[06:17] <LCCUB> jrib: if you're there thanks again for the alias thing, been using it a ton :)
[06:17] <torpedo|dog> oops, the ipw4965 network cards. Can they use ipw3945?
[06:17] <neozen> brianm_: are you running xubuntu or something?
[06:17] <neozen> torpedo|dog: ...um... yes
[06:17] <vzduch> neozen, brianm_: don't forget to adjust /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly before doing so
[06:17] <brianm_> neozen: right now, 6.06 LTS server
[06:17] <neozen> torpedo|dog: they work just fine out of box
[06:18] <neozen> brianm_: there we go....
[06:18] <brianm_> ?
[06:19] <torpedo|dog> neozen: not this one, it's a Thinkpad T41 with a 4965 card that does not work.
[06:19] <TaRDy> im looking in synaptic and cant find nspluginwrapper
[06:19] <brianm_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[06:19] <brianm_> for instance
[06:19] <neozen> torpedo|dog: oh wait.... you asked about 4965
[06:19] <idr0p> was the beryl install hard/
[06:19] <javadan> I have an hp3650 running on a winxp box that I'm using Samba to connect to; it connects great but the print jobs hang the printer.  Any ideas?
[06:20] <torpedo|dog> neozen: yeah, that 1020 makes all the difference:(
[06:20] <ivanAlvarez> , does anyone know about a good tutorial to install compiz-fusion?
[06:20] <neozen> indeed
[06:20] <neozen> torpedo|dog: sorry for the misunderstanding
[06:20] <torpedo|dog> Should I just go the ndiswrapper route for now, do you think?
[06:20] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: ask the people in #ubuntu-effects
[06:21] <torpedo|dog> neozen: it's all good; that's the type of misreading I'd make :P
[06:21] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: they handle all the beryl/compiz support
[06:21] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: thank you
[06:21] <neozen> torpedo|dog: why cant the world be like ubuntu and use names for versions instead of numbers
[06:21] <torpedo|dog> well
[06:21] <neozen> feisty, dapper, edgy etc is SOO MUCH LESS ERROR PRONE
[06:21] <neozen> lol
[06:21] <brianm_> neozen: hmm, does it really need desktop installed? it is a headless server...
[06:22] <neozen> desktop?
[06:22] <vzduch> neozen: most distros do have names.. only they don't use them in public
[06:22] <brianm_> "The appropriate desktop package for your version of Ubuntu must also be installed. "
[06:22] <javadan> I have an hp3650 running on a winxp box that I'm using Samba to connect to; it connects great but the print jobs hang the printer.  Any ideas?
[06:22] <neozen> brianm_: its trying to install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:22] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:22] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:22] <brianm_> neozen: I really don't want to
[06:22] <neozen> brianm_: perfectly understandable
[06:22] <brianm_> doms: best way to install apache+php is not to use ones produced by packagers
[06:23] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to delete a root folder ( realplay ) on my desktop
[06:23] <neozen> brianm_: find the eye for your particular server and poke it
[06:23] <brianm_> neozen: ?
[06:23] <neozen> brianm_: ignore that message
[06:23] <brianm_> :-)
[06:23] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: no one answers
[06:23] <neozen> brianm_: and just keep going with the install
[06:23] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to delete a root folder ( realplay ) on my desktop
[06:24] <crimsun> MTecknology: look at your `amixer`
[06:24] <Defdef> Hello, I am trying to install ATI drivers that are located on my desktop. I am new to linux. I am in konsole, and know the command to run the file, but how to I browse to it's location in Konsole? Is it home/desktop?
[06:24] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: ......... well... its not exactly business hours in there I suppose
[06:24] <vzduch> doms: no duplicate lines plz.. you won't be overlooked if there is someone who can help :)
[06:24] <javadan> moustafa: use sudo
[06:24] <ivanAlvarez> lol
[06:24] <moustafa> How
[06:24] <Pie-rate> is there an open source alternative to ventrilo and teamspeak?
[06:24] <moustafa> Can you tell me what can i type in tremenal?
[06:24] <vzduch> sudo rm -rf ~/Desktop/$nameOfFolder/
[06:25] <neozen> doms: I had no problems getting apache2 and php working with the ubuntu packages
[06:25] <moustafa> Thank you
[06:25] <neozen> doms: worked just fine for me
[06:25] <neozen> doms: what exactly are you doing that's so special?
[06:25] <javadan> moustafa: without knowing exactly what you're deleting it would be something like "sudo rm blah".  Type your root password when prompted.  Make sure you know what you're deleting first.
[06:25] <neozen> doms: summarize its good for you
[06:26] <Defdef> Anyone?
[06:26] <linax> hello
[06:26] <predaeus_> Pie-rate, the Jabber protocol has an extension or something for voice, not sure what jabber client and server supports it though
[06:26] <javadan> Hello linax
[06:26] <LCCUB> Defdef: /username/home/desktop/filename
[06:27] <vzduch> Defdef: usually it'd be /home/$username/Desktop/
[06:27] <LCCUB> oops I switched it sorry
[06:27] <vzduch> LCCUB: don't spread misinformation, m8 :D
[06:27] <LCCUB> too tired
[06:27] <Pie-rate> predaeus_: this is for organizing a group of people in an MMO, and i HATE HATE HATE HATE BOTH ventrilo AND teamspeak.
[06:27] <linax> ok so a friend of mine has posted up something on the ubuntu forums if you guys happen to be using DSP-500 you may find it handy :) I know i did
[06:27] <njero> Hi all, I have Feisty, everytime I boot things work but the boot sits for a long time (20 seconds?) on "Checking File Systems" at the message "fsck 1.40-WIP checking file systems". This is after it has checked the main root fs. Any ideas on how to make that faster. I have a secondary partition which is 40 megs of fat32
[06:27] <Pie-rate> predaeus_: so it has to be something that multiple people can use at once
[06:27] <linax> could use skype =/
[06:27] <neozen> doms: install libapache2-mod-php5
[06:28] <mongolai> is there a kubuntu channel?
[06:28] <javadan> I have an hp3650 running on a winxp box that I'm using Samba to connect to; it connects great but the print jobs hang the printer.  Any ideas?
[06:28] <neozen> doms: and force restart of apache
[06:28] <njero> javadan, have you tried cups?
[06:28] <doms> neozen: yeah even in my edgy  version i did successly install those things but in my feisty  i dont know  but my pastebin looks ok
[06:28] <freeagy> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz @ 1.63GHz]  mem[Physical : 2026MB, 76.5% free]  disk[Total : 361.05GB, 94.10% Free]  video[10de:0193]  sound[]
[06:28] <doms> neozen:  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:28] <neozen> doms: install libapache2-mod-php5
[06:29] <mongolai> Defdef, i haven't used KDE in years, but desktop might be a hidden file
[06:29] <linax> so for anyone interested..........
[06:29] <linax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480930
[06:29] <doms> neozen:  yes i done that mod-php5 see my pastebin
[06:29] <neozen> doms: hmm... interesting
[06:29] <linax> it does work as i tried it out myself :)
[06:29] <rondinelli> alguem do brasil pode me ajudar?
[06:29] <mongolai> ... that is something like ".desktop" <- notice the preceding *dot* character
[06:29] <yurimxpxman> doms: are you trying to get php working in apache?
[06:29] <linax> gets the inline control working on the dsp 500
[06:29] <kdiggdy> how do i get to the control center?
[06:30] <neozen> yurimxpxman: yeah looks like
[06:30] <doms> yurimxpxman: yes
[06:30] <mongolai> kdiggdy, gnome?
[06:30] <kdiggdy> yea
[06:30] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:30] <vzduch> freeagy: #debian exists =D
[06:30] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo aptitude install php5-apache2-mod-bt
[06:30] <dmordan> Hello all.  Anyone familar with connecting evolution to exchange?
[06:30] <neozen> doms: in the future... just tell it to install LAMP packages when you install ubuntu
[06:30] <linax> is there a way to see users in here using xchat?
[06:30] <Arenlor> I'm trying to use Pidgin but when I go to connect to MSN it complains about not having the SSL libraries and I can't find them in the synaptic package manager, or at least I don't know what to look for, any help?
[06:30] <mongolai> use the menu editor if it's not currently installd
[06:30] <neozen> doms: will make your life one hell of a lot easier
[06:30] <kdiggdy> mongolai, yea
[06:30] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ok
[06:30] <vzduch> linax: what for?
[06:31] <mongolai> wait, what?
[06:31] <kdiggdy> mongolai, how do i get to the menu editor?
[06:31] <javadan> njero: No, I have not tried CUPS yet. I didn't see any reason why it shouldn't work.  The print job appears in the spooler on the xp box, but hangs the print when the service hits it.
[06:31] <vzduch> kdiggdy: in Gnome, right-click the menu
[06:31] <neozen> yurimxpxman: bittorrent.....?
[06:31] <doms> yurimxpxman:  access for bittorent
[06:31] <mongolai> in GNOME go to "system/preferences/main menu"
[06:31] <yurimxpxman> neozen, doms: it works :-P
[06:32] <doms> yurimxpxman:  let me try
[06:32] <neozen> yurimxpxman: now that's funny
[06:32] <njero> javadan, in feisty I ended using a different driver than the default for my pcl 5. Might want to read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-109162.html
[06:32] <yurimxpxman> neozen: I know, but it works :-P
[06:32] <kdiggdy> mongolai, im there now
[06:32] <neozen> no doubt
[06:32] <neozen> ...that's... broken
[06:32] <javadan> njero: Thanks much; I'll have a look.
[06:32] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ahahah
[06:32] <kdiggdy> got it thanks :)
[06:32] <mongolai> vzduch, -- thanks for the tip!! I didn't know that
[06:33] <vzduch> mongolai: yw
[06:33] <linax> how do i register on here?
[06:33] <linax> nvm
[06:33] <yurimxpxman> doms: success?
[06:33] <neozen> linax: /msg nickserv register help
[06:33] <doms> yurimxpxman:  hey  installation complete  so i need to clear my cache
[06:33] <mongolai> kdiggdy, then go down to preferences and check the "control center box"
[06:34] <njero> javadan, I had to download my driver off of hp's linux area on their site. There were 3 or 4 drivers I had to try until I got it. Then I setup the printer via cups as its own network node
[06:34] <doms> yurimxpxman:  then restart browser
[06:34] <doms> yurimxpxman:  w8
[06:34] <kdiggdy> mongolai, i click it then it uncheacks it self
[06:34] <neozen> doms: yeah... hopefully you've been doing that each time
[06:34] <kdiggdy> mongolai, fixed it there now thanks :)
[06:34] <mongolai> kdiggdy, that's a bug. Sometimes it will do that.
[06:34] <brianm_> neozen: here goes, thanks!
[06:35] <mongolai> kdiggdy, is that the one you wanted?
[06:35] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://localhost/testphp.php    unable to connect
[06:35] <njero> !help
[06:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:35] <njero> !fsck
[06:35] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[06:35] <kdiggdy> mongolai, yep, thanks
[06:35] <yurimxpxman> doms: do you have apache2 installed?
[06:35] <mongolai> cool ;)
[06:35] <vzduch> moin varka.. why so early up on a Friday? ;)
[06:35] <neozen> well all ... its that time again
[06:35] <javadan> njero: I didn't realize that hp had linux drivers on their site.  I guess I always just assume they're unavailable. :)
[06:35] <doms> yurimxpxman:   http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html    the pastebin  this how i install my apache and php
[06:35] <njero> :)
[06:35] <neozen> ...time go go collapse and watch a little anime
[06:36] <njero> HP+Linux++
[06:36] <Aviatrixie> hp is linux friendly
[06:36] <doms> yurimxpxman:   pls read my pastbin
[06:36] <neozen> before I get up again tomorrow.... and apply for jobs again
[06:36] <neozen> ....dratted college graduation
[06:36] <neozen> ...now I have to do stuff
[06:36] <vzduch> njero: at least when it comes to printing
[06:36] <njero> Anyone have any place to check why I would need to run fsck on every boot if I am shutting down safely?
[06:36] <njero> vzduch, :)
[06:36] <neozen> njero: your hd is kaboom
[06:36] <doms> yurimxpxman:   did you see the pastebin
[06:37] <njero> WHA?
[06:37] <mongolai> Aviatrixie, how are the printer/scanner system from HP for linux. Their windows drivers tend to really suck
[06:37] <neozen> njero: or you're using riserfs
[06:37] <yurimxpxman> doms: reading now
[06:37] <vzduch> neozen: huh?
[06:37] <neozen> njero: I think that needs a check on every boot
[06:37] <javadan> I surprised when I found linux drivers for my Epson 3170 scanner.  Installed them and it works incredibly well.
[06:37] <njero> neozen  hmm, I am using a default feisty install... is that resierfs for Fat32?
[06:37] <Arenlor> Does anyone know the name for the SSL Libraries?
[06:37] <doms> neozen: hey  do you any suggestion about my configuration
[06:37] <neozen> kaboom........... farely self explanitory
[06:37] <doms> neozen:  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:37] <neozen> doms: nope
[06:38] <vzduch> neozen: I have exclusively ext3 partitions (apart from the Windoze partitions).. it still fsck's on every bootup
[06:38] <mongolai> Arenlor, for apache2?
[06:38] <neozen> doms: and I've seen it
[06:38] <vzduch> every distro does that, fwiw
[06:38] <Arenlor> mongolai, no for Ubuntu to connect to MSNIM
[06:38] <vzduch> njero: 'reiserfs for FAT32'? what do you mean?
[06:38] <neozen> I too am confused
[06:38] <mongolai> ohhh... sorry, I don't.
[06:38] <doms> neozen:  it looks my configuration is ok right?
[06:39] <neozen> doms: I suppose
[06:39] <k1gwb> For some reason my dhcp server isn't serving addresses, could anyone perhaps help with that?
[06:39] <doms> neozen:  i dont know where the bugs came from?
[06:39] <njero> vzduch, I am not sure....  my dev/sda5 is UUID=375E-2944  /media/sda5 vfat  defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[06:39] <doms> neozen:  :)
[06:39] <neozen> doms: haven't done much work w/ installing php/mysql/apache... I just let the ubuntu-server installation do the right things for me
[06:39] <neozen> and it WORKS
[06:39] <vzduch> njero: ReiserFS has nothing to do w/ FAT32
[06:40] <neozen> haven't had a single issue
[06:40] <doms> neozen:  ah after server installation u install the desktop
[06:40] <njero> doms: what was your q? I just installed php 4 days ago
[06:40] <brianm_> doms: best way to install apache+php is not to use ones produced by packagers :-)
[06:40] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: which was the chanell you sent me?
[06:40] <neozen> lol
[06:40] <mongolai> neozen, does that come with a working SMB server/client?
[06:40] <Aviatrixie> mongolai: I've only used my HP 1210v all in one.  My carts lasted for not even one refill.
[06:40] <DisabledDuck> how do i reconfigure xorg.conf?
[06:40] <dmordan> anyone able to troubleshoot a evolution/exchange issue?
[06:40] <doms> njero: read my installation configuration then let me  know  if theres missing in it  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:41] <neozen> brianm_: I can see the merits of this... but when I just want a secure locked down server up yesterday... I install ubuntu server w/ LAMP
[06:41] <k1gwb> DisabledDuck: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:41] <vzduch> k1gwb: *xserver-xorg
[06:41] <yurimxpxman> doms: have you tried installing apache2-common?
[06:41] <Aviatrixie> so.... nix compatability rates a 10... HP quality rates a 2
[06:41] <neozen> brianm_: one of these days, I'll lose my mind and install it all from scratch
[06:41] <doms> yurimxpxman:   nope
[06:41] <b33r> Is there a program to encrypt/decrypt RC4 on ubuntu?
[06:41] <mongolai> Aviatrixie, HP windows drivers tend to be *severely* bloated. is it the same with linux?
[06:41] <doms> yurimxpxman:   do i need that package
[06:42] <doms> yurimxpxman:   let me try
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> doms: possibly
[06:42] <k1gwb> vzduch: oh oops...i just hit tab and it autocompletes
[06:42] <neozen> brianm_: something tells me the two events will occur simultaneously
[06:42] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: where do i deal with the beryl stuff?
[06:42] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: #beryl
[06:42] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: or #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <vzduch> k1gwb: then you better browse the nicklist *gg*
[06:42] <neozen> or you ask here... and be PATIENT
[06:43] <doms> yurimxpxman:   ups  my apache2.2-common is already installed
[06:43] <neozen> nighty night all
[06:43] <mongolai> night
[06:43] <kdiggdy> hey anyone know the hotkeys to move around the cube
[06:43] <doms> yurimxpxman:   and the mpm-prefork
[06:43] <kdiggdy> or to make the cube rotate?
[06:43] <DisabledDuck> that didn't work
[06:44] <k1gwb> if I pastebin my dhcp.conf file is that enough to try to diagnose why it won't serve addresses?
[06:44] <DigitalNinja> Anyone know how to find out which packages came from backports
[06:44] <yurimxpxman> doms: man apache-modconf
[06:44] <mongolai> DisabledDuck, I didn't see your original problem. What was it?
[06:44] <dvs01> i heard that grsecurity is discontinued due to loss of a sponsor. are there any alternatives to it?
[06:44] <vzduch> DisabledDuck: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <njero> doms we would need to see your confs I think... are you on feisty?
[06:44] <doms> yurimxpxman:   the document  ok i will try
[06:44] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yeah feisty fawn
[06:44] <vzduch> DisabledDuck: k1gwb produced a typo :)
[06:45] <doms> yurimxpxman:  but those cofiguration works fine in my edgy
[06:45] <Aviatrixie> mongolai: my last HP printer floated onto my desktop... looking like it had spent the last 10 days floating in my swimming pool. It was dead, and so bloated the local constibulary inssisted my husband had to be the culprit.
[06:45] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin your httpd.conf file
[06:45] <vzduch> worked fine for me after installing Nvidia driver
[06:45] <mongolai> LOL
[06:45] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ok
[06:45] <dvs01> oh wait.. tis still alive
[06:45] <DigitalNinja> is there a good tool for configuring Apache?
[06:45] <njero> doms, drop a test.html in /var/www/ and see if it is getting served
[06:45] <mongolai> yep, that's about right
[06:45] <kdiggdy> mongolai, do you know how to make the cube rotate?
[06:46] <DigitalNinja> I'm thinking Webmin but you would have to put all the Apache config files int one
[06:46] <mongolai> no sorry. I can't use those effects.
[06:46] <kdiggdy> k
[06:46] <brianm_> neozen... oh well
[06:46] <brianm_> I am just finicky about my apache installs :-)
[06:46] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yeah theres an index.html  and the testphp.php in /var/www
[06:46] <mongolai> brianm_, you gotta be ;P
[06:47] <varka> moin vzduch, the early bird catches the worm ;)
[06:47] <mongolai> one file falls outta place and a fellow wil pull all his hair out
[06:47] <kootaphor>  okay so here's a puzzle for ya. I open up rhythmbox to try to listen to a radio station---one of the sources listed (along with Library, Podcasts, Radio, etc) -- it says "SHELLY'S LIMEWIRE TUNES" with 3 random albums showing up.  They don't play. double yew tee eff.
[06:47] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/Imk4jw84.html    here the httpd.conf
[06:47] <imbecile> hey guys i installed a vm with xp on it and it wont connect to the internet..options are my intel card (which i already tried) vlance or vmxnet what should i try?
[06:48] <qnyc> DigitalNinja, one way is: apt-cache policy pkgname
[06:48] <wols_> vmware
[06:48] <mongolai> kootaphor, did you manually input the URI for the stream?
[06:48] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/Imk4jw84.html    here the httpd.conf
[06:48] <wols_> !vmware
[06:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:48] <doms> yurimxpxman:  did you see my httpd.conf
[06:49] <yurimxpxman> doms: yes
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: apt-cache
[06:49] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ok
[06:49] <doms> yurimxpxman:  :)
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: That's if my cache is still there
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: Does it get deleted?
[06:49] <yurimxpxman> doms: I think you're missing something.. lemme check mine. one sec
[06:50] <qnyc> DigitalNinja, this cache is the package information downloaded from the repositories, so no
[06:50] <kootaphor> mongolai -yes, and that's also a problem I'm having. But I'm also curious about this' SHELLY'S LIMEWIRE TUNES thing.  I don't know anyone named shelly and I don't use limewire
[06:50] <doms> yurimxpxman:  wow  what is it?
[06:50] <doms> yurimxpxman:  i hope we can track it
[06:50] <qnyc> DigitalNinja, and so it nicely works for not-installed packages also
[06:51] <mongolai> kootaphor, have you tried "steamtuner" + "xmms" for internet radio?
[06:52] <doms> yurimxpxman: keep tracking on it, i'am still looking the missing configuration
[06:52] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin the results of this: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available|less
[06:52] <wYns-54> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[06:52] <mongolai> kootaphor, what's the direct URI for that station?
[06:52] <doms> yurimxpxman: ok
[06:53] <RoC_MM> !virtualizers
[06:53] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:54] <yurimxpxman> doms: on second thought, it'd be easier to remove the |less at the end of that
[06:54] <fanfare> cuck caa
[06:54] <doms> yurimxpxman: http://rafb.net/p/oEBNEc28.html
[06:54] <doms> yurimxpxman: that all the load
[06:54] <pjdid> does anyone know any "GOOD" screen capture recording programs for linux
[06:55] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin this: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[06:55] <yurimxpxman> oops
[06:55] <yondie> pjdid, u can use xvidcap
[06:55] <yurimxpxman> doms: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[06:55] <yondie> pjdid, or u can use istanbul
[06:55] <doms> yurimxpxman: ok
[06:55] <mongolai> pjdid, did you have problems with Istanbul, too?
[06:55] <fanfare> hi ppls
[06:56] <doms> yurimxpxman: http://rafb.net/p/vdc1mB93.html
[06:56] <doms> yurimxpxman: thas all the enabled file
[06:57] <yurimxpxman> doms: do you have an old version of apache installed alongside apache2?
[06:57] <vzduch> anyone here successfully migrated mailboxes from KMail to Evolution?
[06:57] <pjdid> i have used xvidcap and wink and both are horribly slow
[06:57] <doms> yurimxpxman: nope
[06:57] <pjdid> i need to capture full screen
[06:57] <doms> yurimxpxman: this is fresh
[06:57] <pjdid> is istanbul fast?
[06:57] <doms> yurimxpxman: the userdir is there
[06:58] <yurimxpxman> doms: it all seems to look fine to me.. I'm not sure what we're missing here
[06:58] <doms> yurimxpxman: but b4 this configuration   is install both apache and apache2
[06:58] <yurimxpxman> doms: get rid of the first apache
[06:58] <doms> yurimxpxman: then i install apache and keep my apache2
[06:59] <doms> yurimxpxman: then i uninstall apache and keep my apache2
[06:59] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo aptitude remove apache
[06:59] <doms> yurimxpxman: yeah i use my snyaptic to remove apache
[06:59] <Hansel> I am having some trouble getting my wireless card to work.... Dlink WNA-1330.  I have never configured wireless before (my first laptop with Linux) so I'm a bit lost.  I've attempted looking through wpasupplicant how-to's and iwconfig howto's but I'm lost..  WHen I plug the card in this orange light flashes and iwconfig lists it (I think) but nothing seems to work.
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> I've installed Feisty on a new box, and I'd like to tryout KDE . What's the minimum I should install? kde-base? or kde-core?
[06:59] <doms> yurimxpxman: and the bugs started up
[06:59] <blanky> Hey guys, if my brother's computer who's in my LAN has shared documents on Windows XP, how can I access them?
[06:59] <PIPBoy_> hi room :)
[07:00] <Hansel> blanky - install samba
[07:00] <blanky> Hansel, are you sure?
[07:00] <blanky> Hansel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[07:00] <blanky> it says it's not necessary for that
[07:00] <doms> yurimxpxman: but trace up my apache configuration its looks fine
[07:00] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin this file: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:01] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: Thanks for the info
[07:01] <Hansel> blanky - I installed it and I have shares on my Linux box that Windows can see and vice-a-versa...
[07:01] <blanky> Hansel: Do you have a guide? or just sudo apt-get install samba, no configuration required?
[07:01] <blanky> Hansel: what about this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:01] <Hansel> blanky - http://cri.ch/linux/docs/sk0001.html
[07:01] <doms> yurimxpxman:
[07:01] <blanky> thanks Hansel
[07:01] <doms> yurimxpxman: okie
[07:01] <Hansel> blanky - technically you can probably install JUST smbclient...
[07:02] <slugicide> How do I jump to posts I've made on the forums?
[07:02] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, I do not want everything that is included in the full kubuntu-desktop installation. I'm not clear on the difference between kde-core and kde-base, but I know that much.
[07:02] <Hansel> as opposed to the entire samba package which lets you also share Linux mount points...
[07:02] <blanky> Hansel: will the link I provide work?
[07:02] <yurimxpxman> slugicide: Search > My Posts
[07:02] <slugicide> Thanks, yurimxpxman!
[07:02] <yurimxpxman> slugicide: np
[07:02] <Hansel> blanky - looks like it should.  :)
[07:03] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/tTJ1pR42.html
[07:03] <blanky> thanks Hansel
[07:03] <doms> yurimxpxman:  thats the apache2.conf
[07:03] <cables> Is there any way to use TWAIN to transfer an image to a camera rather than from?
[07:04] <doms> yurimxpxman:  did notice at the end of the file ServerName <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:04] <doms> yurimxpxman:  did you notice at the end of the file ServerName <IP_ADDRESS>  i change this
[07:04] <ahmed_> hi
[07:04] <doms> yurimxpxman:  coz my local <IP_ADDRESS> is my local ip
[07:05] <blanky> Hansel: you said that thing, would you be able to see it in Konqueror/Nautilus?
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/tTJ1pR42.html
[07:05] <yurimxpxman> doms: I diffed it against my conf, and that was the only difference.. I didn't have that line at all, so just remove it and restart apache2
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  still reading
[07:05] <skarevoluti> hi
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Does Nautilus control how .desktop files are displayed on the desktop in Gnome?
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ah
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yehey
[07:06] <skarevoluti> my network doesn't working :(
[07:06] <incorperated> has anyone here ever used no-ip
[07:06] <skarevoluti> packages don't send
[07:06] <littleball> hi, i want to have a tool to monitor a specific service. WHen the service process is stopped (due to bug etc reason), the monitoring tool should auto restart the service. What tool can do this?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> skarevoluti, Wireless?
[07:06] <cables> incorperated, no, but I've used dyndns (this is offtopic, you should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> !anyone
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> hello
[07:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:07] <Hansel> blanky - yes... iafter you run that command you will be able to see it in nautilus or any file manager at the mount point you assign it.
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> i need some help with the package manager
[07:07] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: I'm not sure if you can get a working KDE desktop w/ less than kubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <Jordan_U> !hello | estebanbianchi
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Jordan_U> !hi | estebanbianchi
[07:07] <ubotu> estebanbianchi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:07] <Hansel> skarevoluti, what does ifconfig say?
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> it seems to be blocked by an apt-get comand
[07:07] <cdg52> Anyone have any idea how to clear the media gallery on Amarok?
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> or an erroneous dpkg
[07:07] <cdg52> i inported some stuff that i dont want and its over 1000 files
[07:08] <yurimxpxman> cdg52: #amarok
[07:08] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, apparently you can. kubuntu-desktop is the kubuntu full install - all apps and services.
[07:08] <Jordan_U> estebanbianchi, Your network is down because of dpkg?
[07:08] <skarevoluti> Hansel all configuration are done
[07:08] <skarevoluti> thcp, all done
[07:08] <estebanbianchi> nobut i cant run any ap-get comand
[07:08] <blanky> cool thanks Hansel it works
[07:08] <Hansel> ;)
[07:08] <bruenig> Jordan_U, you know that ole ifconfig $interface down bug
[07:08] <yurimxpxman> estebanianchi: what's the error?
[07:08] <estebanbianchi> i remeber there is a comand to unblock
[07:09] <function1> is there some app that can view sqlite dbs? or does each db require a custom viewer on principle
[07:09] <estebanbianchi> it says that there is an other ap-get oparation runing
[07:09] <estebanbianchi> but i reestarted the machine twice (like in windows :P)
[07:09] <blanky> Hansel: will I have to do this everytime I start up my PC?
[07:09] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: according to the short description, kde-core should be what you're looking for.. kdebase is just the basic libs & stuff needed for KDE apps to work
[07:09] <PIPBoy_> hey, does anyone know anything about the patent suit going on with microsoft? anyone care to summarize whats going on?
[07:10] <doms> yurimxpxman:  i hope it work
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> estebanianchi: delete the lock: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:10] <Hansel> blanky - yes... but you can add it to a startup script if you want it to be perm.
[07:10] <estebanbianchi> i worked it out
[07:10] <doms> yurimxpxman: i forgot how to restart my apache
[07:10] <estebanbianchi> it just just sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:10] <doms> yurimxpxman: what is the command
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d stop
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d start
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, t/y - that is what it looked like to me too, but wanted to check with an older and wiser pair of eyes :)
[07:10] <blanky> Hansel: okay, how would I do that, I mean, I can do it myself, but what file or what program do I need to use
[07:11] <skarevoluti> what can i try to reconfigure my network???
[07:11] <Hansel> blanky - just append the commands to rc.local in /etc
[07:11] <Hansel> cat /etc/rc.local for info.  :)
[07:11] <doms> yurimxpxman: command not found
[07:11] <blanky> Hansel: Sweet, thanks man I appreciate it
[07:11] <Hansel> np
[07:11] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: my eyes are old (if you call 30 old, that is).. if they're wise I don't know :P
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> doms: oops. sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> oops
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> grr
[07:11] <doms> yurimxpxman: okie
[07:12] <doms> yurimxpxman: copy
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d/apachce2 start
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> psh
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> I can't type tonight
[07:12] <blanky> Hansel: I won't need the sudo mkdir /mnt/blah thing right?
[07:12] <doms> yurimxpxman: stoping okie
[07:12] <blanky> THAT will be permanent, as well as the symbolic link
[07:12] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, older in knowledge, anyway ... :) (I'm an old, old man, me, but not wise. Yet.)
[07:12] <blanky> I just need the mount -t smbfs command
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:13] <Hansel> yeah... once you create the dir it will stay.  :)
[07:13] <Aviatrixie>  /exit
[07:13] <vzduch> Ubuntu-es: renaming yourself won't make us speak Spanish =D
[07:13] <doms> yurimxpxman:  root@pc1:/#
[07:13] <Hansel> it wont hurt though to re-create it in the off chance you do erase it or something
[07:13] <ryan__> Can anyone help me getting my wireless card to work, there aren't any tutorials online
[07:13] <doms> yurimxpxman:  started
[07:13] <blanky> hey in KDE, what is the sudo alternative for GUI apps?
[07:13] <Hansel> ryan - I'm having the same problem... :(
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> blanky: AFAIK, there isn't one, except checking the option to run as a different user
[07:14] <doms> yurimxpxman:  still unable to connect localhost
[07:14] <Ubuntu-es> vzduch jaja, i know it XD
[07:14] <Hansel> I've always ran linux on servers... put it on my laptop and want wireless to work but I'm completely lost.
[07:14] <blanky> yurimxpxman: okay
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> doms: ah, the server isn't working *at*all*?
[07:14] <Hansel> ryan_ have you run lspci to see if the card is even "seen" by the OS?
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> blanky: gksudo still works in KDE, though.. it just doesn't look very nice ;-)
[07:15] <blanky> yurimxpxman: okay cool thanks!
[07:15] <vzduch> yurimxpxman: kdesu exists
[07:15] <vzduch> :)
[07:15] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> hello
[07:15] <yurimxpxman> vzduch! ah! thanks! :-)
[07:15] <Hansel> hi gbluntzer_ubuntu
[07:15] <blanky> hey guys, "You don't need Samba to...Have your Windows computer use (via a network) a printer that is attached to a Linux computer, you don't need Samba. CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network.", according to this guide
[07:15] <blanky> how can I configure CUPS to be accessible to the network?
[07:15] <blanky> my bro is on a windows computer in my LAN
[07:16] <vzduch> blanky: if you have a guide, it should tell you..
[07:16] <Hansel> blanky - if CUPS is running then http://localhost:631/admin.
[07:16] <blanky> vzduch: it doesn't, that guide is about samba, but it's telling me I don't need samba
[07:16] <jinx099> hmmm, ssh (openssh-server) is missing from my package list...
[07:16] <blanky> Hansel: OH, thanks
[07:16] <blanky> Hansel: so just, http://mylocalip:631/myprinter
[07:16] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> im  a ubuntu  newbie. Anyone want to help me?
[07:16] <blanky> thanks
[07:16] <Hansel> not local ip... localhost as in <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:16] <Hansel> http://localhost:631/admin  :)
[07:16] <blanky> Hansel: but localhost/loop back would be HIS IP
[07:17] <blanky> my brother is on a windows machine
[07:17] <blanky> he wants to use a printer hooked up to my ubuntu machine
[07:17] <n2diy> jinx099: do you have the multiverse and universe repos enabeled?
[07:17] <ThePioneer> Whats the command for a list of irc rooms?
[07:17] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: anything specifically?
[07:17] <Hansel> blanky - you need to go to that webpage on the UBUNTU box...
[07:17] <netham45> xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (invalid argument)
[07:17] <netham45> can anyone help me?
[07:17] <blanky> Hansel: OH, haha, thanks
[07:17] <jinx099> n2diy: yeah, and updated
[07:17] <netham45> I have no idea what is going on...
[07:17] <netham45> X is giving me that error
[07:17] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> im running ubuntu desktop
[07:17] <blanky> thanks! brb
[07:17] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> and I want to turn on telent
[07:18] <Whtiger> telnet?
[07:18] <Hansel> gbluntzer - telnet is awful... use ssh instead.  More secure.  :)
[07:18] <netham45> telnet is a bad idea
[07:18] <Whtiger> no, you don't.
[07:18] <jinx099> n2diy: oh wtf, the gui says its not enabled even though i uncommented everything manually in sources.list
[07:18] <n2diy> jinx099: is it packaged under a different name, maybe?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> gbluntzer_ubuntu, You want to telnet into somewhere else *from* your machine?
[07:18] <netham45> xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (invalid argument) -- X is spitting out this error when I run it.
[07:19] <Hansel> gbluntzer - if you want to see what services you have listening for network connections pull up a terminal and type             sudo netstat -tulp
[07:19] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> i want to telnet from my windows machine into this ubuntu box
[07:19] <n2diy> jinx099: ah, a good tech finds their mistake! :)
[07:19] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: use ssh for that.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> gbluntzer_ubuntu, No, you dont :)
[07:19] <Whtiger> it's like telnet, but it's much more secure.
[07:19] <netham45> and better
[07:19] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> is ssh on by default?
[07:19] <Hansel> gbluntzer - ssh is encrypted telnet.  :)   go download Putty for your Windows box... its an SSH client that's free and good.
[07:19] <concept10> whatev
[07:19] <Jordan_U> gbluntzer_ubuntu, "sudo apt-get install ssh" connect from Windows using putty
[07:20] <chaosmystic> WinSCP is great
[07:20] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, nah... by default Ubuntu is pretty locked down as far as I recall...
[07:20] <netham45> Telnet is like tying a piece of paper with your IP, pass, and account to a pigeon and letting him free at a lan party.
[07:20] <metbsd> putty has scp too
[07:20] <Nutubuntu> netham45, good description :)
[07:20] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> k second question how do i turn on ftp?
[07:20] <n2diy> gbluntzer_ubuntu: type ssh -v, and see what it tells you, I think it is.
[07:20] <chaosmystic> I use gFTP
[07:20] <netham45> gbluntzer_ubuntu: use SFTP, more secure.
[07:20] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you have to sudo apt-get install an FTP server... vsftpd and pureftpd are most commonly used.
[07:20] <vzduch> PuTTY is _the_ SSH client for Windoze
[07:20] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you can also transfer files over SSH...
[07:21] <TaJMoX> i like proftpd
[07:21] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you can use SSH for everything basically.
[07:21] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> ah cool
[07:21] <netham45> like Hansel's mom! j/k
[07:21] <Hansel> netham45, looking for a ban?
[07:21] <netham45> no?
[07:21] <Hansel> well then stfu kthx.
[07:21] <netham45> Im looking for the answer to my issues with X
[07:21] <chaosmystic> I built a PC with a 500 GB hard drive and a 4GB main drive. Then I loaded FreeNAS on it.
[07:21] <tritium> Hansel: careful
[07:21] <Hansel> well I'd normally help but you just insulted my dead mother.
[07:22] <Whtiger> netham45: X is overrated anyways..
[07:22] <chaosmystic> I can ssh into it with gFTP or WinSCP (I keep this on a thumb drive)
[07:22] <netham45> Whtiger: it's nice when you have a 5 monitor setup. a terminal kinda... fails at that.
[07:22] <TaJMoX> hansel: pff - he was trying to be friendly
[07:22] <wols_> netham45: what videocard what driver and what is your xorg.log?
[07:22] <chaosmystic> can anyone help me get my usb mic to work in Ubuntu?
[07:23] <Hansel> TaJMoX, friendly like your whore of a mother?  j/k
[07:23] <Hansel> TaJMoX, see... not too friendly.
[07:23] <TaJMoX> hansel exactly
[07:23] <wols_> Hansel: stop that please
[07:23] <TaJMoX> shrug - i dont take it personally
[07:23] <netham45> wols_: S3 Trio32/64x2 S3 ViRGE DX/GXx1 Matrox Mellinium G400 Dualhead AGPx1
[07:23] <skarevoluti> :( please help me with my internet connection...
[07:23] <tritium> Hansel: watch it
[07:23] <predaeus_> !language
[07:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:23] <Hansel> tritium, tell it to netham45...
[07:23] <Hansel> wols_, tell it to netham45
[07:23] <TaJMoX> Hansel - wah
[07:23] <Hansel> TaJMoX, tell it to netham45
[07:23] <PIPBoy_> hey, does anyone know anything about the patent suit going on with microsoft? anyone care to summarize whats going on?
[07:23] <Whtiger> don't most families swear..?
[07:23] <TaJMoX>  /join #cry
[07:24] <tritium> Hansel: they're your words, not his
[07:24] <chaosmystic> I am using Audacity and I have a C01U Samson USB Mic.
[07:24] <predaeus_> !offtopic | PIPBoy_
[07:24] <ubotu> PIPBoy_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:24] <Hansel> tritium, scroll up... I'm just repeating
[07:24] <Hansel> yawn.
[07:24] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> putty
[07:24] <chaosmystic> can anyone help me get my usb mic working?
[07:24] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: putty.
[07:24] <TaJMoX> pipboy_ ubuntu is't worried about it because M$ has no case
[07:25] <wols_> netham45: well?
[07:25] <javadan> I have a cdburner and a dvd drive on the same ide cable- if I put a disk in the dvd drive it locks Ubuntu hard and it never comes back. When booted to the shell I can manually mount the drive and it works fine.  Ideas?
[07:25] <tritium> Hansel: no, you chose to use foul language that he did not.   I missed it(can't scroll, irssi)
[07:26] <tritium> netham45: your joke was inappropriate
[07:26] <wols_> Hansel: please stop being OT
[07:26] <Whtiger> netham45: page up
[07:26] <wols_> netham45: /help lastlog
[07:26] <Hansel> yawn...
[07:26] <Evan_> any java gurus online?
[07:26] <javadan> chaosmystic: I'm not sure how they're set but it works fine in XP and at the shell.
[07:26] <Hansel> tritium, no seriously... /kb me please.
[07:26] <Hansel> yawn.
[07:26] <wols_> Evan_: #java
[07:26] <Evan_> i see
[07:26] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yes your right
[07:26] <Hansel> I'm the only one helping in here yet I get kicked after somebody insults me... laugh
[07:26] <doms> still there
[07:27] <netham45> you asked me what cards, right?
[07:27] <doms> yurimxpxman:  still there
[07:27] <chaosmystic> Javadan - try setting the DVD drive to Master and the other to slave. Then reboot
[07:27] <netham45> wols_: S3 Trio32/64x2 S3 ViRGE DX/GXx1 Matrox Mellinium G400 Dualhead AGPx1
[07:27] <tritium> Hansel: evading bans will get you klined
[07:27] <Evan_> #java doesn't seem to be working wols
[07:27] <Hansel> tritium, I'll even give you a reason to kick/ban me.    Learn how to understand that people dont appreciate having their mothers insulted.  I was proving a point.   I'm trying to make a window open, then when a button is clicked that window closes and another window opens.
[07:28] <wols_> Evan_: I don't care. It's OT. look for a java channel
[07:28] <wols_> especially for homework
[07:28] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: how's it going?
[07:29] <Evan_> wols, thought that meant on topic.
[07:29] <Evan_> wols, haha.
[07:29] <netham45> Evan_: try off topic.
[07:29] <shiester_miester> lol @ hansel
[07:30] <wols_> arooni: you start by learning to explain your problem properly
[07:30] <c2c2rock> 8-)
[07:30] <Whtiger> =D
[07:30] <arooni> heh
[07:31] <vzduch> what a Hansel.. (insider for those who speak German ;))
[07:31] <arooni> ok lets start first thing first
[07:31] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> i did the ssh -v and its there
[07:31] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> but putty on my windows box does nothing
[07:31] <Whtiger> did you tell it to do anything?
[07:31] <netham45> lol
[07:32] <wols_> gbluntzer_ubuntu: what do you want it to do?
[07:32] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> :)
[07:32] <Whtiger> connect to your ubuntu box as you would with telnet
[07:32] <Whtiger> but with putty >_>
[07:32] <tritium> gbluntzer_ubuntu: did you install openssh-server (or the metapackage, ssh)?  Otherwise, you only have the client installed.
[07:32] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> oh maybe i downloaded the wrong thing then i has a graphical front end
[07:33] <arooni> i have a sony laptop and ubuntu 7.04, and... i cant adjust the lcd brightness.... any suggestions?
[07:33] <Whtiger> the graphical frontend is good.
[07:33] <Whtiger> tritium: he did the ssh package.
[07:33] <wols_> atrus: acpi
[07:33] <tritium> Whtiger: good
[07:33] <logankoester> how can I restart a network interface from the shell?
[07:33] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> well i put in the ip address and picked ssh radio button
[07:33] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> and it just opens up a dos window with a green cursor
[07:33] <Whtiger> that's good.
[07:34] <wols_> sudo netstat -anp |grep ssh. anything running?
[07:34] <atrus> wols_: ?
[07:34] <wols_> arooni: acpi
[07:34] <atrus> ah
[07:34] <n2diy> logankoester: which interface?
[07:34] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: and it just sits there, forever?
[07:34] <shiester_miester> hey i would like some help with getting a USB interface on a PPP ADSL router working, its an alcatel speedtouch 530
[07:34] <logankoester> n2diy: eth0
[07:34] <Nutubuntu> would I want acpi on a desktop? or is it mostly useful on a laptop only?
[07:34] <arooni> wols_: i typed: acpi, and i got:       Battery 1: discharging, 75%, rate information unavailable.
[07:34] <n2diy> ifup eth0
[07:35] <kab00m> hi to all
[07:35] <shiester_miester> i can get it working fine if i use the ethernet port, but i'd really like to keep the ethernet port free for my lan and use the usb port
[07:35] <Whtiger> hey kab00m
[07:35] <wols_> arooni: no, the problem IS acpi. not the tool acpi
[07:35] <wols_> shiester_miester: what did google say?
[07:35] <logankoester> n2diy: thanks. I got an unknown interface error, but that's the name of the interface that comes up in ifconfig. Do you know how I can rescan or something?
[07:36] <shiester_miester> wols_, pretty much google just said use the ethernet port and dont bother with usb
[07:36] <shiester_miester> which is not a satisfying answer
[07:36] <arooni> wols_: what should i do to fix it?
[07:36] <wols_> logankoester: what network drivres have you loadeed?
[07:36] <kab00m> Issue with Feisty: Every other boot sets the resolution at 800x600
[07:36] <wols_> arooni: read more about acpi and your special notebook
[07:36] <kab00m> don't know where to start troubleshooting
[07:36] <wols_> kab00m: in xorg.log
[07:36] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> sudo netstat -anp | grep ssh
[07:36] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     17178    5510/ssh-agent
[07:37] <sakitram> hello, I have installed Ubuntu successfully on my SATA hardisk.  But I get often system hangs.  What to do?  I also tried disabling SATA in BIOS, but still Ubuntu hangs while I am working.
[07:37] <Whtiger> er
[07:37] <Whtiger> ghm.
[07:37] <shiester_miester> wols_, if its impossible to get it working with USB at all then i dont have much choice, but if its possible then I'd really like to
[07:37] <logankoester> wols_: Dunno. I've been using this machine for months and last night it just quit networking :-/ Possibly related to a recent upgrade to feisty
[07:37] <wols_> gbluntzer_ubuntu: so install/run sshd fineally. it'can't work otherwise
[07:37] <porthose> does anyone know how to set up dbmail
[07:37] <wols_> shiester_miester: that's why you are supposed to ask google about it. we rarely know about specific hwardware
[07:37] <kab00m> brb wols
[07:38] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> so ssh-agent is not the server?
[07:38] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu, try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:38] <wols_> logankoester: then maybe you should check?
[07:38] <Whtiger> correct
[07:38] <wols_> !info dbmail
[07:38] <ubotu> dbmail: base package for the dbmail email solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1 (feisty), package size 254 kB, installed size 876 kB
[07:38] <logankoester> wols_: How would I do that?
[07:38] <wols_> dmesg | grep eth
[07:38] <predaeus_> shiester_miester, you could get a router so you can use both at the same time (LAN and WEB/WAN)
[07:38] <porthose> thanks
[07:38] <wols_> predaeus_: he wants to use ubunut has his router and save the money
[07:39] <logankoester> wols_: what am I looking for here exactly?
[07:39] <wols_> logankoester: problems?
[07:39] <sakitram> somebody answer to my question please?
[07:40] <_Ahti> !ask | sakitram
[07:40] <ubotu> sakitram: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:40] <wols_> sakitram: check your hardware
[07:40] <JerseyMonkey> Could someone help me with setting up an app for my tv tuner?
[07:40] <wols_> apt-get install tvtime
[07:40] <logankoester> wols_: that returned five lines: registered as... / link up / no ipv6 routers... / link down / link up
[07:40] <JerseyMonkey> I installed tvtime, but it wont get my component signal.
[07:40] <logankoester> I don't know what this means
[07:40] <predaeus_> sakitram, as far as I know disabling SATA to fix problems in an operating system that is installed on a SATA drive makes no sense
[07:41] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: have you installed drivers?
[07:41] <JerseyMonkey> No.
[07:41] <wols_> logankoester: then learn what itmeans?
[07:41] <JerseyMonkey> Avermedia pcmia card.
[07:42] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: can you answer my questin please?
[07:42] <ivanAlvarez> #beryl
[07:42] <JerseyMonkey> No drivers installed.
[07:42] <JerseyMonkey> At least I never installed them.
[07:42] <wols_> then check if they are installed and do it if they aren't?
[07:42] <JerseyMonkey> How would I do that?
[07:43] <wols_> man lsmod
[07:43] <saketram> hello, my ubuntu system hangs often, please somebody help?
[07:43] <wols_> and find out what drivers you need so you recognize them
[07:43] <wols_> !tell saketram about ask
[07:43] <_Ahti> saketram: Hangs? After doing what?
[07:43] <_Ahti> wols_ :its !ask | saketram
[07:43] <saketram> during I work, it hangs
[07:43] <saketram> not at specify task.
[07:44] <logankoester> wols_: there's nothing I can run to detect network settings automatically?
[07:44] <_Ahti> saketram: What programs do you use when it hangs?
[07:44] <noiesmo> saketram, you could open a terminal and run "top" see whats eating your resources
[07:44] <saketram> nothing special, even I work with Gedit, it hangs.
[07:44] <logankoester> It managed just fine when I installed ubuntu
[07:44] <wols_> logankoester: you already do, but it's failing
[07:44] <duck__> where can i go to ask questions about beryl?
[07:44] <saketram> I guess the problem should be belongs to system or SATA Hard disk.
[07:44] <wols_> !effects | duck__
[07:44] <ubotu> duck__: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:45] <_Ahti> saketram: Ok, Sorry can't help you... Since i specialice in network hardware :P
[07:45] <saketram> but I checked system with engineer, and it is new system too
[07:45] <defrysk> duck__, /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:45] <wols_> saketram: smartmontools
[07:45] <wols_> saketram: but I doubt it
[07:45] <saketram> so there could something with SATA and Ubuntu
[07:45] <saketram> _Ahti: anyway thank you
[07:45] <wols_> saketram: unlikely
[07:45] <saketram> what may I do next to resolve the problem?
[07:46] <wols_> saketram: I already told you. scroll up
[07:46] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: it work?
[07:46] <saketram> do you want to install smartmontools?
[07:46] <saketram> may I try "sudo apt-get install smartmontools"?
[07:46] <wols_> saketram: why should I want it? I have it already installed
[07:46] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, how is the computer getting an IPv4 address, supposedly?
[07:47] <wols_> logankoester: what does /etc/init.d/networking restart say?
[07:48] <wols_> saketram: and no that's not what I told you should do
[07:48] <saketram> yes, I install smartmontools? what is next? I do not find any special menu anywhere?
[07:48] <wols_> there is no menu. there is this thing called documentation. but again: I didn#t told you to install it, did I?
[07:49] <doms> /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[07:49] <doms> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[07:49] <doms> httpd not running, trying to start
[07:49] <saketram> wols_ : it ok, but I run th e command and install.  no problem.  what is next?
[07:49] <logankoester> wols_: It says about five pages of stuff. The only problems are with sendmail
[07:49] <logankoester> which I don't care about at the moment
[07:49] <wols_> doms: if it truly does say that you're very misconfigured
[07:49] <_Ahti> !fi
[07:49] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:50] <wols_> logankoester: /etc/init.d/networking rstart tells you about sendmail?
[07:50] <logankoester> yes
[07:50] <logankoester> missing a dependancy or something
[07:50] <Whtiger> erm..
[07:50] <wols_> there is no sendmail on your box I hope
[07:50] <clockwork> Hi, I'm having repository issues. I'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy (and eventually fiesty) But when I run "gksu 'update-manager -c'" I end up getting a repostistory error message:
[07:50] <clockwork> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:50] <clockwork> Can anyone help?
[07:50] <wols_> networking restart dells you about dependencies?
[07:50] <Ainokea> I'm installing ubuntu alternative, when installing is the screen supposed to flash?
[07:51] <doms> wols_: look my configuration pastebin  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html   is theres missing on it
[07:51] <Jordan_U> If I re-install keeping my /home partition, what do I have to do to ensure that the account I create will have the same UID and folder as my current account? Just use the same name?
[07:51] <Whtiger> Ainokea: does it work anyways?
[07:51] <Ainokea> it just keeps going
[07:51] <Ainokea> I dont know how long I am supposed to wait
[07:51] <logankoester> wols_: yeah I do have sendmail installed
[07:51] <Ainokea> aproximately how long does it take to install?
[07:51] <donovan_> I'm used to doing /sbin/shutdown -i0 -g0 but when doing it feisty I get rc1 main process killed by TERM signal and it wants me to go single user mode.  Any ideas on how to fix?
[07:52] <_Ahti> clockwork: Since it said that, it means that file no longer exists... or isn't available at the moment, so i suggest you wait for a while before trying again
[07:52] <saketram> wols_:  what is next?
[07:52] <clockwork> I can hit the URL just fine
[07:52] <Ainokea> approximately how long does ubuntu take to install?
[07:52] <duck__> how do i restart X?
[07:52] <clockwork> _Ahti: I can hit the URL just fine
[07:52] <_Ahti> clockwork: have you installed any firewalls, etc?
[07:52] <saketram> noiesmo:  I did so "top", now I see lot of things running (nearly 30)
[07:52] <saketram> ?
[07:52] <njero> Ainokea, depends on formatting time
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Ainokea, 20 minutes or more, depending on weather or not it's set to download packages from the internet
[07:52] <donovan_> duck_: ctl alt backspace will typically do it
[07:52] <logankoester> It seems to be getting an ip address via dhcp just fine... maybe it's a windows problem
[07:52] <wols_> doms: fix your DNS/resvolver/hostname/fqdn fix xour pasting (there never is a <IP_ADDRESS>) and fix your apache mime type/php loading
[07:52] <JerseyMonkey> Would someone be willing to explain how I would know if a device is installed correctly, and if not how to find drivers for it?
[07:53] <doms> wols_: did you read my paste bin
[07:53] <_Ahti> clockwork: Have you been plauing around with iptables?
[07:53] <wols_> saketram: you scroll up and learn to read what I said. you really need it
[07:53] <Ainokea> hmm alright thanks, I guess I'll leave it for about 20 minutes
[07:53] <wols_> doms: I did and I answered you
[07:53] <duck__> how do i restart X?
[07:53] <clockwork> _Ahti: No on playing with the iptable, I am behind a router, but I wouldn't think that would matter
[07:53] <doms> wols_: do you have a exact how it configure
[07:53] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: depends on the device a bit
[07:53] <wols_> duck__: ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:53] <doms> wols_: do you have a exact link how it configure
[07:53] <_Ahti> duck__: Log out and then = ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:54] <wols_> doms: no
[07:54] <agm_> after updates the system runs slow, can any one explain??
[07:54] <_Ahti> clockwork: OK, hmm...
[07:54] <JerseyMonkey> wols_: It is a PCMIA TvTuner made by AverMedia.
[07:54] <clockwork> _Ahti: I see people complaining about it on the forums, but no solutions
[07:54] <doms> wols_: where do i start to configure
[07:54] <_Ahti> agm_: Did you update from beta? 7.04b?
[07:54] <_Ahti> clockwork: Its a bug, don't know how to fix it tho :(
[07:55] <Jordan_U> How do I re-install keeping all of my user settings?
[07:55] <agm_> no security updates for 7.04 final
[07:55] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: lspcmcia to check what chip it uses, possibly google to see what driver/chip it sues if the first step wasn't conclusive using the info gotten from step one
[07:55] <saketram> wols_: I do not miss any message.  But could not understand what to do.
[07:55] <clockwork> _Ahti: Hrm. OK, I guess I try and download the 6.10 disc and upgrade off of that...
[07:55] <wols_> then look if ubunut already has a howto, the driver, etc. google again if it doesn't
[07:55] <JerseyMonkey> wols_: Thankyou.
[07:55] <saketram> wols_: Since I accidently install smartmontools, Do I have to reinstall Ubuntu for security?
[07:55] <_Ahti> clockwork: I'm afraid you need to do a fresh install...
[07:56] <wols_> saketram: you do miss some of them
[07:56] <_Ahti> clockwork: Linux CD upgrades NEVER work... :P
[07:56] <wols_> saketram: no.
[07:56] <d2dchat> Is there a difference between Edgy and Fiesty or are they one and the same?
[07:56] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, I'm either misunderstanding your issue, or confused. Is it that you cannot see the entire network, or is it that you cannot see a specific host (or group of hosts) on the network? Or something else?
[07:56] <clockwork> _Ahti: blarg. Even worse.
[07:56] <tritium> d2dchat: there are not the same
[07:56] <_Ahti> agm_: I've experienced that too... Thats why i think twice before updating since it always slows me down
[07:56] <njero> d2dchat, Feisty is the latest version
[07:56] <_Ahti> clockwork: Yep.. You could look for a fix, but... :)
[07:57] <agm_> now i am thinking of reinstall or can i rollback
[07:57] <d2dchat> so in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321766 should I type
[07:57] <_Ahti> njero: Well, 7.10a exists :P
[07:57] <vzduch> chryss: why the double login?
[07:57] <saketram> wols_: your messages arrived here are only the following
[07:57] <d2dchat> bash ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/fiesty ?
[07:57] <saketram> wols_:  smartmontools  but I doubt it unlikely I already told you. scroll up, why should I want it? I have it already installed, and no that's not what I told you should do, you scroll up and learn to read what I said. you really need it, , you do miss some of them, no.
[07:57] <njero> d2dchat, ubuntu names its version using adjectives and animals starting with sequential letters: Breezy Badger, C C? Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, Feisty Fawn
[07:57] <logankoester> Nutubuntu: I can't see the internet, but I am getting an ip address. I think the Vista machine doing NAT is messed up, rather than the ubuntu box
[07:57] <saketram> wols_: if I miss anything, i request you to repeat please.
[07:57] <njero> _Ahti, :)
[07:58] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, got it. And I agree.
[07:58] <melchior7> I'm still waiting for horny horse
[07:58] <JerseyMonkey> wols_: I typed in that command and received : 'Socket 0 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus]  (bus ID: 0000:03:01.0)"
[07:58] <mdious> logankoester:  i wouldn't trust windows anything to even boot up correctly let alone do NAT :P
[07:58] <d2dchat> njero, so do you know if the bash command then requires Ubuntu/fiesty instead of Ubuntu/Edgy?
[07:58] <Jordan_U> How do I re-install keeping all of my user settings? I have my /home on a separate partition
[07:58] <njero> A was something Armadillo right?
[07:58] <doms> wols_:  is there a way to removed the php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin with all the configuration settings to be remove?
[07:58] <logankoester> mdious: you would if you had no choice :p
[07:59] <vzduch> njero: that scheme started w/ Breezy.. remember before there were the Warty Warthog and the Hoary Hedgehog
[07:59] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> hi im back again
[07:59] <mdious> Jordan_U:  I think you just install as normal, and specify that home partition you already have as home...
[07:59] <njero> d2dchat, I am not sure what you are asking... bash works in both...
[07:59] <mdious> logankoester:  I hope I'm never in the position where I have no choice :(
[07:59] <njero> vzduch, thanks
[07:59] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> i got  connect to the ssh on my ubuntu. Now how do i transfer files?
[07:59] <vzduch> njero: and there was none w/ the letter C
[07:59] <d2dchat> njero, well i'm wondering because I'm on Fiesty.. if I should modify that line from Ubuntu/edgy to Ubuntu/fiesty or if it doesn't make a difference
[08:00] <njero> !scp @ gbluntzer_ubuntu
[08:00] <njero> !scp
[08:00] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[08:00] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, I'd think seriously about putting a real router in place, instead of the Vista box. You can build one on an old 486, even. (IPcop, etc.)
[08:00] <ai3gtmc> how many server can a 47mbps connection can handle?
[08:00] <wols_> logankoester: what does route -n say, what is in resolv.conf?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> mdious, I just don't want to create a new user of the same name, and have it possibly overwrite my old user's folder
[08:00] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> so there  is nothing like mget, mput?
[08:00] <vzduch> d2dchat: normally: replace 'edgy' by 'feisty' in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run 'sudo apt-get update' and you're ready to dist-upgrade
[08:01] <wols_> d2dchat: both feisty and edgy come with bash. always
[08:01] <njero> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you can look at sftp for those
[08:01] <d2dchat> vzduch, I'm just trying to get this ATI driver to work in Fiesty
[08:01] <mdious> Jordan_U:  sorry I should have shut my mouth i haven't done it before so shouldn't try to give advice ;)
[08:01] <wols_> vzduch: no. use update-manager
[08:01] <logankoester> Nutubuntu: Ubuntu is running on a virtual machine hosted on my laptop, which I use for photoshop and so forth ;)
[08:01] <wols_> !updete-manager
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updete-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <vzduch> wols_: what's the difference apart from the update-manager supposedly being a graphical app?
[08:02] <JerseyMonkey> I typed in 'lspcimia' command and received : 'Socket 0 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus]  (bus ID: 0000:03:01.0)"
[08:02] <_Ahti> vzduch: If you did that you'd break your system
[08:02] <jhawk> gbluntzer_ubuntu try gftp ssh2 transfer
[08:02] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, IIRC it doesn't work like that. (Of course you should back up before reinstalling.) But when I upgraded (long time back) I kept my /home ... never changed username or p/w
[08:02] <wols_> vzduch: apt-get dist-upgrade rarely works nowadays
[08:02] <logankoester> wols_: Why does it matter? :)
[08:02] <qnyc> d2dchat, did you try to go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager, and enabling the ATI driver?
[08:02] <logankoester> The problem is the network device disappeared on the Vista machine
[08:02] <wols_> logankoester: suit yourself. my machines all have internet access
[08:02] <fiber> hello, i was wondering if anyone could give me some help setting up grub.  basically, i had ubuntu installed and then put XP on a separate partition but XP stole the MBR record so i can't get back into ubuntu (i'm on the liveCD right now)... anyone have any thoughts?
[08:03] <saketram> wols_: please make your attention to me too
[08:03] <Jordan_U> mdious, No problem, you said you weren't sure, so I understood that hadn't done it yourself , I was just hoping on the off chance you had :)
[08:03] <d2dchat> qnyc, no, nice.... haha should i disable the Atheros driver?
[08:03] <wols_> saketram: I do when you do what I told you about
[08:03] <saketram> wols_: I do not know what to do next?
[08:03] <vzduch> fiber: back up your /boot/grub/menu.lst, then run sudo grub-install
[08:03] <_Ahti> fiber: You shouldn't install linux first and windows second... -.-' You're going to have fun trying to fix it up :P
[08:03] <wols_> !grub | fiber
[08:03] <ubotu> fiber: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <logankoester> yeah, pay attention to him. I know you're trying to be helpful but you come off as kind of a dick
[08:03] <vzduch> fiber: and next time do as _Ahti says: install Windoze first
[08:04] <d2dchat> qnyc, disable that the Atheros driver, enable ATI driver and restart?
[08:04] <wols_>  /ignore logankoester
[08:04] <Flannel> Jordan_U: Just mount home and say "mount but don't format" or whatever the text is.
[08:04] <logankoester> then again, maybe my nicotine levels are just low
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Nutubuntu, And that kept your preferences ( desktop background, applications whatever ) ?
[08:04] <wols_> d2dchat: do you have a atheros based wlan card?
[08:04] <qnyc> d2dchat, yeah, after you add the restricted ATI driver, it will prompt you to restart
[08:04] <mdious> Flannel:  what happens when you create another user with the same username...?
[08:04] <fiber> vzduch: haha, yea... i just figured that one out... better to learn from experience though... thanks
[08:04] <_Ahti> mdious: It won't happen.. :P
[08:04] <d2dchat> wolfeon, o, is the atheros driver not a graphics driver?
[08:04] <logankoester>  /ignore wols_
[08:04] <Flannel> Jordan_U, mdious, you're talking about during the install?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Flannel, I understand that, I just want to be sure that all I need to do is that and use the same user name as before
[08:04] <wols_> mdious: you get an error and no new user
[08:04] <logankoester> cheers, glad we can agree :)
[08:05] <qnyc> d2dchat, it's your wireless card
[08:05] <mdious> Thanks guys
[08:05] <d2dchat> qnyc, ah, i want to keep that ;)
[08:05] <mdious> Flannel:  I was thinking after install and then creating a new user...thanks for the advice and tips :)
[08:05] <wols_> d2dchat: what ati videocard exactly do you have?
[08:05] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, kept everything. I was nervous about overwriting the partition, and very careful not to, and very glad when the upgrade was done and all my stuff was still there  ... I remember that part pretty well ... (But *do* back up first if at all possible. Stuff happens.)
[08:05] <d2dchat> alright brb guys
[08:05] <d2dchat> thanks
[08:05] <d2dchat> wols_, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2423
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Nutubuntu, It's all backed up, it is just preferences I am worried about, not data
[08:06] <sakiitram> wols_: this is the third time, I appear after restart of system due to system hang.  But still I do not know what to do to solve the system hang
[08:06] <Flannel> mdious: Actually, adding users defaults (with useradd anyway) to not create a homedir.  If you do, I believe it just copies the skeleton dir, so even if you have stuff already there, it won't matter.  As for how it works through users and groups, I don't know.  You could create a dummy uesrname, make him a homedir with something in it, then create him through users and groups and see.
[08:06] <Flannel> mdious: that's probably the best way t obe sure.
[08:07] <Flannel> Jordan_U: yeah, and you really don't even have to use the same username as before.
[08:07] <wols_> sakiitram: check your hardware. especially RAM. possibly acpi or apic
[08:07] <d2dchat> wols_, will that work?
[08:07] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, my last upgrade onto the existing machine was over a year ago, and the memory isn't fresh, but with a backup? I'd be pretty confident.
[08:07] <_Ahti> wols_: apic???
[08:07] <mdious> Flannel:  Thanks, I didn't know useradd didn't create a homedir by default :)
[08:07] <sakiitram> the engineers, just replaced the RAM and working for two hourse, but I do not find any difference.
[08:07] <sakiitram> what to do with acpi or apic?
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Flannel, That makes no sense, If I used a different user name how would it keep my user's preferences?
[08:07] <Flannel> mdious: you have to use -m
[08:07] <wols_> d2dchat: not totally sure if you need the ati or fglry. never can tell with those IGPs. is your card DX9 capable or DX8 only?
[08:08] <sakiitram> wols: do you want to do it in GRUB menu at kernel option?
[08:08] <Flannel> Jordan_U: you won't.  But your old data won't be removed.  You just wont be using it.
[08:08] <_Ahti> sakiitram: You could try disabing acpi...
[08:08] <d2dchat> wols_, I have no idea
[08:08] <mdious> Flannel:  ah that would explain it, I've never just done a 'useradd'....come to think of it I've always specified a home dir
[08:08] <_Ahti> disabling*
[08:08] <d2dchat> wols_, how can I find out?
[08:08] <sakiitram> _Ahti: ok , I shall do it
[08:08] <wols_> _Ahti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC
[08:08] <wols_> d2dchat: don't know. never owned a ati. I'd use google
[08:08] <d2dchat> wols_, well let me try this
[08:08] <_Ahti> wols_: AHHHH
[08:08] <Socks> Quick question: Can I downlaod Ubuntu, burn it to a disc, then boot from the disc on a windows PC?
[08:09] <d2dchat> wols_, will i die if this doesn't work? :)
[08:09] <wols_> d2dchat: if it's vista premium capable it'S dx9 for example
[08:09] <Flannel> Socks: yes, thats the normal method.
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> Socks, yes, from the live CD
[08:09] <wols_> Socks: of course!
[08:09] <whyameye> are there a bunch of .debs lying dormant somewhere in a directory from all the updates...which maybe I could delete for more disk space?
[08:09] <Socks> Cool
[08:09] <sakiitram> _Ahti: is this correct?
[08:09] <sakiitram> _Ahti: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=b35b933c-9d6c-4594-a469-4e3bc76e168f ro quiet acpi=off splash
[08:09] <wols_> whyameye: yes. man apt-get
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Flannel, I am not worried about Data at all, I am only worried about my user's preferences ( all in /home/me ) being preserved, so I assume that if I use the same user name it will use the same /home/me ( that or it will write a new /home/me and loose everything, which I want to be sure won't happen )
[08:09] <Flannel> whyameye: `sudo apt-get clean` or apt-get autoclean
[08:10] <d2dchat> wols_, well it's a 64 bit laptop, it was meant to have Vista installed on it when Vista was released, but I bought it pre-vista
[08:10] <whyameye>  wols_, Flannel: any reason not to clean them out?
[08:10] <sakiitram> _Ahti: will that disable acpi?
[08:10] <wols_> d2dchat: can it run aero?
[08:10] <Flannel> whyameye: if you reinstall the files, you'll need to re-download them
[08:10] <wols_> sakiitram: yes
[08:10] <imbecile> hey guys, i forgot how to change my icon themes.. i know its somewhere in system but i cant remember where.. any help?
[08:10] <d2dchat> wols_, what is aero?
[08:10] <_Ahti> sakiitram: What wols_ said :P
[08:11] <wols_> the new vista user interfaces. the trnasparency and stuff. like beryl
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Do you know how I can re-install and keep all my user's preferences intact?
[08:11] <Flannel> Jordan_U: your preferences ARE data.  If you use the same username, it'll use the new data (no overwriting), if you use a new username, the data will still be there (just not in 'your' home folder), although home folders are confgiurablee.
[08:11] <wols_> Jordan_U: backup your ~
[08:11] <sakiitram> _Ahti: he said yes, for my the following question
[08:11] <Lekrem> imbecile: System --> Preferences --> Theme
[08:11] <sakiitram> _Ahti: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=b35b933c-9d6c-4594-a469-4e3bc76e168f ro quiet acpi=off splash
[08:11] <wols_> sakiitram: I said yes about the kernel line question
[08:11] <_Ahti> sakiitram: I know... yes :D
[08:11] <Flannel> Jordan_U: Ive told you many times.  Use your hoemdir, mount, no format.  Use the same username to have that old homedir be your current homedir.
[08:12] <hd80gb> how stop all net activity with iptables?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Thank you, sorry, I just wanted to be clear
[08:12] <Lekrem> imbecile: then Customize
[08:12] <imbecile> Lekrem,  cool thanks
[08:12] <_Ahti> sakiitram: Altough now that you've disabled it you need to reboot.
[08:12] <agm_> imbecile:system>preference>theme>customize>icon
[08:12] <d2dchat> wols_, I'm going to reboot real quick
[08:12] <sakiitram> _Ahti; ok, thank you all.
[08:12] <sakiitram> soon back.
[08:12] <_Ahti> sakiitram: Hope it works
[08:13] <doms> wols_:  is there a way to removed the php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin with all the configuration settings to be remove?
[08:13] <doms> is there a way to removed the php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin with all the configuration settings to be remove?
[08:13] <SoulChild> is there a way to save the whole boot output into a file ?
[08:14] <vzduch> SoulChild: look at /var/log/boot.msg
[08:15] <SoulChild> vzduch: i only have /var/log/boot and much other logs but there is an error at boot, which is not listed in the logs
[08:15] <Flannel> doms: sure.  You need to use --purge.  But you also need to remove all the real packages, not just the metaones (like apache2-common, or apache2.2-common on feisty)
[08:15] <Nutubuntu> I'm trying to beat some information out of my tired brain ... there is a way to dump a list of the installed packages, and then use that list to install the same packages (to another computer) ... I thought it was a dpkg command but I can't find it or remember it ...
[08:15] <Flannel> doms: the apacheX-common package is the one that has all of the stuff in /etc/apache2, for instance.
[08:15] <_Ahti> SoulChild: What kind of error? Not all errors are deadly :P
[08:15] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: dpkg -l, but see !cloning
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> t/y Flannel
[08:16] <pyrak> can someone recommend a good bittorent client that allows more than one dl at once (i dont get why the default one doesnt)
[08:16] <SoulChild> _Ahti: that's the problem,... i can't read it, since my computer boots so fast
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> !cloning
[08:16] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[08:16] <wols_> doms: --purge them. apt-get remove --purge
[08:16] <Flannel> pyrak: the default one does, just not with the program that starts when you double click torrents.
[08:16] <vzduch> pyrak: KTorrent does
[08:17] <_Ahti> SoulChild: Assuming that since your here, the boot went fine... Therefore, as i said before. Not all errors are "important" :)
[08:17] <pyrak> flannel, well when i launch the default one by itself, it asks me to find it a meta file...
[08:17] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, it seems as if that same list (e.g., my-packages) could be fed to aptitude ... which I would prefer
[08:18] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: if aptitude has that functionality, sure.
[08:18] <predaeus_> SoulChild, probably you can hit the PAUSE key to freeze the computer while booting to read the text then press SPACE to continue, I do not know if this works though
[08:18] <vzduch> SoulChild: what do you mean by 'can't read it'? is it covered by the splash screen? if so, try booting w/o the 'splash' kernel option in Grub
[08:18] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, well, aptitude can take an argument list, e.g, sudo aptitude install <list of packages>
[08:19] <SoulChild> vzduch: no it's not covered
[08:19] <_Ahti> Who was it that wanted to find a list of installed packages?
[08:19] <SoulChild> predaeus_: i don't think, that this will work but anyway i'll try
[08:19] <the_undefined> Q: What options does one have when ubuntu freezes completely to kill the process that is causing it?
[08:19] <vzduch> what's your VGA resolution? (on the console)
[08:20] <SoulChild> vzduch: my?
[08:20] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: right, if you do the dpkg --get-selections, thats the cleanest version of a package list.  sed can quickly turn that into a space separated list for catting to aptitude
[08:20] <vzduch> SoulChild: yep
[08:20] <SoulChild> vzduch: 1024x768
[08:20] <predaeus_> SoulChild, works while BIOS comes up here, but maybe Linux eats the key input
[08:20] <vzduch> should be enough to read all msgs
[08:20] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, that's what I hoped :) that'll work.
[08:21] <SoulChild> vzduch: predaeus_: thanks for your help
[08:22] <BURTS> what is a good free ebook for beginner/novice guide for ubuntu server?
[08:22] <Flannel> BURTS: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[08:23] <Flannel> that's available in PDF too, if you want to download it
[08:23] <BURTS> Flannel: thank you, I will take a look at it right now.
[08:23] <SurfnKid> this is probably a stupid question
[08:23] <SurfnKid> but i must ask
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> !ask
[08:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:23] <SurfnKid> does ubuntu recognize the dual core 2
[08:23] <_Ahti> !ask | SurfnKid
[08:23] <ubotu> SurfnKid: please see above
[08:23] <GeekMaster1> Hi all. I was wondering how to turn my DHCP into a static IP address.
[08:23] <SurfnKid> as multitasking or not
[08:24] <SurfnKid> Intel says that in order for the chip to run into the Dual Core 2 Duo features, the software must be able to support it
[08:24] <_Ahti> Shouldn't you know? GeekMater1 (<---Note: The name...)
[08:25] <_Ahti> GeekMaster1*
[08:25] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: /etc/network/interfaces  : https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[08:25] <mdious> GeekMaster1:  you can do it with ifconfig or through system/administration
[08:25] <saintz0r> hey there. can anyone teach me or point me to a guide on how to upload stuff with rtorrent?
[08:26] <GeekMaster1> THANKS ALL
[08:26] <anon_510> yo waddup peeps
[08:26] <Nutubuntu> think theres an official riaa guide ,,, drop them an email and request it?
[08:26] <qnyc> SurfnKid, it is fully supported
[08:27] <jscinoz> How can i get my rt61 chipset WLAN card to work with WPA in network manager?
[08:27] <Flannel> !away > Maha`
[08:28] <_Ahti> jscinoz: As far as i know, NetworkManager doesn't support WPA... ??? (Please correct me)
[08:28] <_Ahti> jscinoz: And i share the same issue :P
[08:28] <anon_510> i burned ubuntu 7.04 to a boot disc and havde a dedicated hard drive for ubuntu but I cannot get ubuntu to boot can anyone tell me what the problem is?
[08:28] <predaeus_> SurfnKid, that is mostly the case with parallel computing. I would assume it is detected correctly but I do not know if feisty comes with an SMP enable kernel by default or if you would have to install one.
[08:28] <vzduch> work is calling, gotta run :)
[08:28] <vzduch> cu later
[08:29] <jscinoz> Network manager DOES support WPA, as my other laptop with a 2200BG works with WPA out of the box, its just rt61 based cards that it has issues with
[08:29] <diesel_power> help! name of the channel in spanish please!
[08:29] <Flannel> _Ahti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:29] <Flannel> !es | diesel_power
[08:29] <wilrecar71> my dapper drake distrobution wont show distro upgrades is update manager and id like to upgrade
[08:29] <ubotu> diesel_power: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:29] <tio22> any woman for cam???
[08:29] <wilrecar71> in*
[08:29] <Flannel> !upgrade | wilrecar71
[08:29] <ubotu> wilrecar71: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:29] <diesel_power> gracias ubotu
[08:29] <mdious> wilrecar71:  don't you have to change /etc/apt/sources.list to look at the new sources?
[08:29] <nomasteryoda> diesel_power, tractors are super
[08:29] <_Ahti> anon_510: Have you checked the md5sums? Could you have burned the disc wrong (happens too often), You know, you're supposed to burn it as an .ISO?
[08:29] <Flannel> wilrecar71: you need start update-manager with -c (I think, double check), because dapper is an LTS
[08:29] <wilrecar71> ok thank you
[08:30] <predaeus_> !bot | diesel_power
[08:30] <ubotu> diesel_power: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:30] <Flannel> mdious, wilrecar71, no changing sources list hasn't happened since breezy
[08:31] <Flannel> anon_510: "cant get it to boot" being what?  what does it look like?  does it boot at all? boot normally? black screen? what
[08:31] <thezenmaster> I need a new sound card. Which do you guys recommend? I'm on feisty
[08:31] <mdious> Flannel:  thanks last i did was breezy to dapper...
[08:32] <wols_> thezenmaster: SBLive
[08:32] <mdious> okay i'm going to go, no one needs my wrong advice lol
[08:32] <Flannel> mdious: that was the lats pre-update manager one.  So that'd be why.
[08:32] <imbecile> hey guys im trying to install an icon theme and when i click on the .theme file it says invalid format. this is it http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glass+Icons+Theme?content=32146
[08:32] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, I apologize for dull witted question, but why cat? Couldn't I 'sudo aptitude install < list-of-packages' ? (Once Ive made a space-delimited list)
[08:32] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: right.  I wasn't necessarily saying to use cat.  Just any means you feel like.
[08:32] <herbaliser> hi how can i resize my root partition?
[08:32] <thezenmaster> wols_ Sounblaster or audigy?
[08:33] <herbaliser> gparted live cd
[08:33] <Flannel> herbaliser: You need a liveCD, you can't play with mounted partitions
[08:33] <herbaliser> ?
[08:33] <qnyc> herbaliser, that will work
[08:33] <Nutubuntu> I like cats, and I need to learn better about 'cat' too. I've been playing with sed and grep, now it's cat's turn maybe.
[08:33] <herbaliser> I have 5 gig of free space left, do i need to create a file system on it first?  and then resize root?
[08:33] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: nah.  < is what you want.
[08:34] <predaeus_> thezenmaster, also see http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/  before deciding
[08:34] <wols_> thezenmaster: there is a SBLive Audigy?
[08:34] <herbaliser> using ext3
[08:34] <_Ahti> herbaliser: Something like Knoppix should do :)
[08:34] <PIPBoy_> bye all
[08:34] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, t/y again ... as always :)
[08:34] <wols_> thezenmaster: I mean the SBLive 5.1
[08:34] <Flannel> herbaliser: No, you'll expand root into it.  You don't create a partition first, just expand root to te free space, and it'll get absorbed
[08:34] <qnyc> herbaliser, is that your only partition?
[08:35] <thezenmaster> isn't that external?
[08:35] <qnyc> herbaliser, because if the free space isn't adjacent to root partition, you'll have to slide partitions over first
[08:35] <BURTS> where can i find a complete list of the CLI commands?
[08:35] <predaeus_> thezenmaster, ah sorry just realized that they do not update taht other list anymore http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[08:35] <herbaliser> i have /dev/hda1 ext 3 root /dev/hda2 extended /dev/hda5 swap and then 5 gig unused
[08:36] <herbaliser> and is /dev/hda1 is want to resize
[08:36] <herbaliser> it's a vmware disk is expanded
[08:36] <ivanAlvarez> #beryl
[08:37] <imbecile> hey guys im trying to install an icon theme and when i click on the .theme file it says invalid format. this is it http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glass+Icons+Theme?content=32146
[08:37] <thezenmaster> predaeus thanks for the list ;)
[08:37] <qnyc> herbaliser, yeah it's easy, slide over hda2, the resize hda1, but backup important data first!
[08:37] <herbaliser> gparted when i choose resize on the root disk, gives me free space left 0, free space right 0
[08:37] <the_undefined> Q: Still looking for solutions to recover from a frozen ubuntu -> anything like Ctrl+Alt+Del available? (sry for the blasphemy)
[08:37] <Flannel> herbaliser: The extra space you have is where?  not next to the root partition?
[08:38] <herbaliser> no
[08:38] <qnyc> herbaliser, as I said, you need to move hda2 to the right first
[08:39] <Maha`> ok. got it Flannel
[08:39] <imbecile> when installing an icon theme i use the .theme file to add it correct?
[08:39] <doms> its oki to manually remove my  apache directory like rm -r
[08:40] <doms> its oki to manually remove my  apache directory like rm -r
[08:40] <doms> its oki to manually remove my  apache directory like rm -r?
[08:40] <Nutubuntu> !repeat
[08:40] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:40] <Flannel> doms: no.  Don't.  Remove the packages.
[08:40] <yellow_chicken> i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 on G4.  i can't get into GUI  installation mode from live cd.  error: /bin/sh can't access tty: job control turned off
[08:42] <doms> Flannel:  coz when i reinstall the package  the configuratio still the same as my previos configuration
[08:43] <Flannel> doms: you need to purge the package, or "complete removal" with synaptic.  We've told you this already.  And this isn't just the metapackage (apache2), but also the real packages (apacheX-common)
[08:43] <Zenton> hi all
[08:44] <Zenton> every 6 months ubuntu packages are merged with debian
[08:44] <wols_> Zenton: no
[08:44] <Zenton> that means that gutsy will be merged with sid?
[08:44] <wols_> Zenton: no
[08:44] <verb3k_> guys I am having a problem in adding a user to samba ....when I use "sudo smbpasswd -a username"  to add a new user it asks me for a password and then outputs the following message :"Failed to modify password entry for user foobar"  ....what's the problem ? thanks in advance .
[08:44] <doms> Flannel: oki
[08:44] <wols_> every 6 montjhs, ubuntu takes sid and creates a release
[08:44] <doms> Flannel: how about his dependencies
[08:44] <imbecile> when installing an icon theme i use the .theme file to add it correct?
[08:44] <WeeJeWel> how can i make an edge in gimp from a straight line?
[08:45] <wols_> verb3k_: that user already exists in the DB
[08:45] <Zenton> wols_: so feisty is stable and has only security updates?
[08:45] <verb3k_> wols_,  oh ,,then how can I solve this ?
[08:45] <Flannel> doms: You only need to get the packages that bring in config files for that program.  Even if we're not using, say, libapr, we don't need to purge it, since it doesn't change the apache config files.  Really, all we need is to remove 'apacheX-common' with the purge
[08:45] <Flannel> Zenton: yes.  As is Edgy and Dapper.  Well, security and bugfixes.
[08:46] <wols_> verb3k_: change the user's pw
[08:46] <Zenton> aha, thanks Flannel and wolfs_
[08:46] <kitsuneofdoom> part
[08:46] <doms> Flannel: yes  i'am lighten  thank you very much :)
[08:46] <Zenton> does exist a prerelease live cd with gutsy?
[08:46] <Flannel> Zenton: Each release (and actually, a few months before release) there's a version freeze, see Gutsys (with links to previous ones, I believe): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[08:46] <verb3k_> wols_,  can you tell me please how to do that? I really appreciate your help
[08:47] <Flannel> Zenton: yeah, gutsy is already tribe2 (second alpha), hmmm, maybe tribe 3 by now.  You'll get precise info in #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <Zenton> Flannel: i see, thanks.
[08:48] <OmegaCenti> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: <Don't know if I should show this public key to the public or not> I am getting this error when reloading repositories
[08:48] <d2dchat> Hey im trying to get my ATI card to work with Xgl.. but whenever i login to an Xgl session, the graphics appear all funky.. can anyone help?
[08:48] <xenex> What's a program that supports DRM-protected wmv's through a stream?
[08:49] <Sp4rKy> OmegaCenti: check medibuntu.org and download the public key
[08:49] <OmegaCenti> Sp4rKy: Ah thanks :)
[08:49] <Sp4rKy> np
[08:49] <bonee> my sound is not working right
[08:49] <bonee> help plz
[08:50] <wols_> verb3k_: don't add a user, simply change the user
[08:50] <wols_> the user's pw
[08:51] <d2dchat> Wait, if your card does 2d acceleration only, can it not use Beryl?
[08:51] <crdlb> d2dchat, correct
[08:51] <crdlb> d2dchat, what card do you have?
[08:52] <verb3k_> wols_I know but how to do that ?
[08:52] <d2dchat> crdlb, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[08:52] <pyrak> anyone know of any way to "free" an ipod shuffle (2g)?
[08:52] <pyrak> i wanna play ogg on it
[08:52] <thill2708> how do I listen to shoutcast stations in amarok?
[08:52] <silvernode> Is there any program that will enable me to create 4 second clips of full length songs?
[08:52] <crdlb> d2dchat, you're not getting 3d acceleration with fglrx for some reason
[08:52] <Szeraax> silvernode: audacity
[08:53] <xenex> What's a program that supports DRM-protected wmv's?
[08:53] <silvernode> szeraax:I have that and did'nt even think of it
[08:53] <verb3k_> wols_ I know but how to do that ? sorry for the lot questions
[08:53] <Szeraax> silvernode: gald to help, if it helped :)
[08:53] <d2dchat> crdlb, is that a question or a statement? haha
[08:53] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[08:54] <perlmonkey> If I have a CPU showing clockspeed as 933Mhz is that likely to be a 1Ghz CPU or a lesser one?
[08:54] <thill2708> anyone?
[08:54] <crdlb> d2dchat, a statement, that's why Xgl looks weird
[08:54] <OmegaCenti> Sp4rKy: Worked like a charm. Thanks :)
[08:54] <d2dchat> crdlb, and it's because my card doesn't have 3d acceleration? :-/
[08:54] <crdlb> d2dchat, yes it does
[08:55] <d2dchat> crdlb, it does? How did you find out?
[08:55] <shiester_miester> anyone know how to do WAN between windows and linux using hamachi
[08:55] <crdlb> d2dchat, because I have a lot of experience with that chip
[08:55] <wols_> verb3k_: have you done man smbpasswd. what have you leanred?
[08:55] <crdlb> I'm 100% sure it has 3d support
[08:56] <wols_> verb3k_: or asked another way. what made you use -a?
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, you are a god then =D
[08:56] <crdlb> d2dchat, but only using fglrx
[08:56] <OmegaCenti> My info command points to the man pages of commands. I don't think I am getting the info pages in other words. How would I go about getting the info pages?
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, well i found a tutorial i think might help
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[08:56] <d2dchat> what do u think?
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, they recommend that i use the open source driver
[08:56] <crdlb> d2dchat, no that's only for the free driver
[08:57] <crdlb> it doesn't provide 3d acceleration on your card
[08:57] <crdlb> you have to use the proprietary driver (fglrx)
[08:57] <d2dchat> crdlb, ah i see
[08:57] <d2dchat> crdlb, so can you help me diagnose the problem?
[08:57] <Szeraax> and that's why next time, get nvidia...
[08:57] <crdlb> d2dchat, maybe, join #ubuntu-effects
[08:58] <anTiX> is there an ubuntu package available for vhcs?
[08:58] <verb3k_> wols_,  I am a new ubuntu user ....how am I supposed to know all of this at once ? are you going to help me or not ?
[08:58] <Szeraax> anTiX: vhcs?
[08:59] <anTiX> Szeraax: www.vhcs.net it's a really good open source webhotel software imho
[08:59] <Sp4rKy> OmegaCenti: np
[09:00] <Szeraax> anTiX: ah, thanks
[09:00] <anTiX> Szeraax: np! I can recommend it after running it for 2 years..
[09:01] <Nutubuntu> what is the status of suns java for the a64 x2?
[09:01] <yo2k> ...
[09:03] <Pachelbel> grrrrr
[09:03] <Pachelbel> i don't want to auto-cnnect here
[09:03] <Pachelbel> :)
[09:03] <CheshireViking> Pachelbel, which irc client do you use?
[09:04] <Pachelbel> x-caht
[09:04] <Pachelbel> anyway, i've disabled it already
[09:04] <Pachelbel> thanks
[09:04] <CheshireViking> ok
[09:04] <verb3k_> !samba > verb3k
[09:04] <verb3k_> !samba > verb3k_
[09:05] <|_ocke> i need to edit the grub entry on my mbr
[09:06] <|_ocke> i am currently running off /dev/hdb1, but it defaults to hda1
[09:06] <Szeraax> |_ocke: so go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:06] <|_ocke> currently i have to view the list edit the entry and change root=/dev/hda1 to /dev/hdb1
[09:06] <|_ocke> i did
[09:06] <|_ocke> but it still is the same..
[09:06] <|_ocke> er wait
[09:07] <Nutubuntu> night all
[09:07] <Flannel> |_ocke: what do you mean by "goes to"?  the MBR stuff isn't affected by menu.lst
[09:07] <Nutubuntu> thanks, too :)
[09:07] <Szeraax> did you save it?
[09:07] <|_ocke> maybe i need to mount /dev/hda1 and edit it on there
[09:07] <Biohazard> Does anyone know what did wrong with my Amarok. Yesterday it worked fine, now it doesn't start. It stops working when the blue image appears. Reinstalling didn't fix the problem.
[09:07] <|_ocke> since im running off hdb1, i must have edited the one on this partition, which isnt loaded on boot
[09:07] <|_ocke> of course i saved it :)
[09:07] <wols_> verb3k_: why should I help you if you are too lazy to do some work yourself? if you want the work done for you without any effort of yours: hire a conslutant
[09:07] <Flannel> !grub | |_ocke
[09:07] <ubotu> |_ocke: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:08] <Szeraax> |_ocke: very possible
[09:08] <Flannel> first link, you need to make the stuff on MBR point to the other partition (reinstall it pointing to your new one)
[09:08] <|_ocke> ive been running linuxes for like 6-7 years, i dont forget stuff like saving or sudo, but sometimes i cant see the forest for the trees
[09:09] <yo2k> !gksudo
[09:09] <PIPBoy_> Can anyone pm me and give me information on how to use wine? im new and confused and cant seem to find an explanation...
[09:09] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[09:09] <CheshireViking> !wine > PIPBoy_
[09:09] <Szeraax> |_ocke: ok
[09:10] <|_ocke> i dont really intend to reinstall unless i get another machine entirely and am running it alongside this one
[09:11] <Flannel> |_ocke: you're reinstalling GRUB stage 1, not anything else.
[09:11] <PIPBoy_> Can anyone pm me and give me information on how to use wine? im new and confused and cant seem to find an explanation...
[09:11] <Flannel> PIPBoy_: read your query from ubotu, specifically the page linked from there
[09:11] <predaeus_> Biohazard, try runnin amarok in a terminal to see if it spits any error messages
[09:11] <poweruser1> Hello, I have two comps with Ubuntu (one Kubuntu) in my house. How would I network them?
[09:12] <|_ocke> otherwise i intend to keep the same installation with my settings and data, heck i even pulled the original install (/dev/hda1) from the previous machine (celeron 1ghz) and pt it in this athlonxp 3000+ and just changed the necessary devices hehe
[09:12] <Szeraax> poweruser1: are they on lan or direct connection?
[09:12] <Biohazard> predaeus_, yes he says "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 164"
[09:12] <poweruser1> It's over lan
[09:12] <poweruser1> One uses wireless
[09:12] <poweruser1> The other's directly in a router
[09:12] <mat1980> poweruser1: you have to install ntfs on one or both of them.
[09:12] <Flannel> poweruser1: theyre already on the same LAN?  then theyre already "networked"
[09:13] <Szeraax> what do you want to be able to do?
[09:13] <predaeus_> Biohazard, hm does it die with that or is this just an info message?
[09:13] <doms> unable to connect localhost   installing apache2
[09:13] <|_ocke> then i had memory and swapping issues so i installed a 80gb drive on top of this one and made a 4gb swap partition as /dev/hdb5
[09:13] <Szeraax> share files?
[09:13] <Szeraax> |_ocke: jealous
[09:13] <poweruser1> Yes
[09:13] <mat1980> poweruser1: ehm... not ntfs... nfs.. :-[
[09:13] <poweruser1> And the only network I see is a Windows one
[09:13] <Szeraax> |_ocke: i'm stuck with one 4200rpm hdd
[09:14] <predaeus_> Biohazard, copy the complete error message to a pastebin and keep the link handy. You can also ask in #kubuntu since amarok is kde.
[09:14] <Szeraax> poweruser1: well, you may be able to just right click on a folder and go to sharing or something and do it that way
[09:14] <Flannel> poweruser1: You mean sharing? not networking
[09:14] <poweruser1> Ah yes, sharing
[09:15] <wols_> |_ocke: you should have bought more RAM
[09:15] <Szeraax> poweruser1: are you able to try these ideas right now?
[09:16] <Biohazard> predaeus_, http://rafb.net/p/ARBNPX10.html
[09:16] <poweruser1> Yes
[09:16] <Szeraax> poweruser1: did you try the above?
[09:16] <poweruser1> I'm trying the share
[09:16] <Szeraax> ok
[09:17] <poweruser1> It prompted me to dl NFS so I am
[09:17] <Szeraax> alright
[09:17] <|_ocke> then i was down to like 100mb free on / so i mirrored the fs on /dev/hda1 (10gb) to the free space on /dev/hdb1 (75gb) and now am booting from hda1 still but making hdb1 root
[09:17] <|_ocke> i dont buy computer parts
[09:17] <|_ocke> i dont buy anything for computers
[09:18] <|_ocke> i inherit and acquire hardware, and i use nothing but free software
[09:18] <|_ocke> i have had this 2.1ghz box laying around for almost a year but had no ram for it, so i was using an athlon 850 with 512mb pc100, then a celeron 1ghz with that same 512 pc100
[09:18] <|_ocke> then i got ahold of another box which had a dead mobo but 256mb working ddr2 pc2700
[09:18] <|_ocke> so i dropped it in the athlonxp 3000+ and things were goood
[09:19] <anTiX> how do I set background color in a bash shell?
[09:19] <rohan> why is ubuntu's musicbrainz crippled ? can't i look up tag info of mp3 files ?
[09:19] <rohan> using amarok
[09:19] <Szeraax> anTiX: good question...
[09:19] <|_ocke> except when i ran out of memory it would be in paging hell for 10 minutes swapping stuff in and out and wouldnt respond for like literally 10-15 mins even to tryto kill the proc
[09:20] <|_ocke> so i gave it 4gb swap on the new disk and that solved all th ose problems
[09:20] <prya> tyrty
[09:20] <|_ocke> course it still was slowr thand it should be given the proc and video
[09:20] <wols_> |_ocke: invest 20$ and buy 512MB more ram
[09:20] <|_ocke> then i got another box with dead mobo and 1 dead 256 stick and 1 live 256 stick
[09:21] <|_ocke> so now i have 512mb pc2700,
[09:21] <|_ocke> plus 4gb swap and 75gb storage
[09:21] <anTiX> Szeraax: echo -e "\[\e\e40:" seems to do the trick :)
[09:21] <|_ocke> wols_, if i had $20 to spend on the computer i wouldnt be messing with all that in the first place
[09:22] <|_ocke> plus, 512mb pc2700 ddr2 is like 50-60 bucks
[09:22] <lor4x> hello, does anyone know of a good little tui program that tells you the bitrate of an mp3?
[09:22] <jetscreamer> mplayer
[09:22] <|_ocke> which is about the amount i make per month in addition to rent, which includes paying my electric bill and eating and smokes and whatever
[09:22] <Tomcat_> lor4x: TUI? :o
[09:23] <lor4x> Tomcat_: text user interface :)
[09:23] <Tomcat_> lor4x: That's CLI "Command Line Interface" usually. ;)
[09:23] <lor4x> Tomcat_: ah, okay...
[09:23] <lor4x> well then, does anyone know a good cli program that tells you the bitrate of an mp3?
[09:23] <wols_> |_ocke: first, there is no ddr2 pc2700. and: it's not
[09:24] <wols_> |_ocke: what socket amd?
[09:24] <blanky> anyone here have Enemy Territory installed? I'm not getting any sound from it, although my sound elsewhere in the system (Other programs such as Pidgin/Gaim) work fine
[09:24] <xenex> blanky, use oss
[09:24] <blanky> xenex: thanks!
[09:24] <|_ocke> i think its 472 or something, i havent taken the heatsink off and looked
[09:24] <blanky> xenex: will try that, I'll just switch it through the KDE interface thing
[09:25] <wols_> |_ocke: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144165 512MB DDR2 PC4200 at 21,49 from kingston
[09:25] <xenex> if that doesn't work, close other programs that use sounds
[09:25] <|_ocke> well its pc2700, and i was pretty sure it was ddr2 but i guess i could be wrong
[09:25] <wols_> |_ocke: if it's socket a, it's DDR1
[09:25] <enviouz> is there a way to browse the repos like you can with fedora?
[09:26] <roho> you can use synaptic
[09:26] <blanky> xenex: same thing, 'could not open /dev/dsp', and that close any other program that uses sounds method is stupid, my sound card supports multiple channels and I already checked that using a command
[09:26] <enviouz> ok ty
[09:26] <wols_> enviouz: packages.ubuntu.com, synaptic, aptitude, etc
[09:26] <_Ahti_> enviouz: You can browse throuhg the software by using SYnaptic
[09:26] <wols_> blanky: fuser /dev/dsp
[09:27] <blanky> xenex: I already did cat /proc/asound/pcm and it worked
[09:27] <blanky> I mean, it showed more than one
[09:27] <xenex> blanky, i'm a simple man. ;p
[09:27] <blanky> wols_: thanks will try
[09:27] <|_ocke> hardinfo says AMD Athlon XP/MP (Barton) 3000+ 2100.60MHz
[09:27] <wols_> DDR1 then
[09:27] <blanky> wols_: nothing haha
[09:27] <wols_> and yes, that'S damn expensive
[09:27] <PIPBoy_> i accidentally deleted my recycle bin, how do i get it back?
[09:27] <wols_> blanky: nothing what?
[09:28] <blanky> shows up
[09:28] <blanky> weird
[09:28] <enviouz> also if i update to the 2.6.22 kernel am i likely to have problems with packages built for fiesty?
[09:28] <blanky> probably cause no sound is playing at the moment?
[09:28] <wols_> where? what are you trying?
[09:28] <blanky> wols_: ... fuser /dev/dsp
[09:28] <wols_> enviouz: ubuntu kernel or self compiled?
[09:28] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, right click on the gnome panel go add to panel
[09:28] <wols_> blanky: are you in group audio? does /dev/dsp exist?
[09:28] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, find the trash, and add it
[09:28] <blanky> wols_: actually I don't think it does, no tab completion, how do I check the group?
[09:29] <|_ocke> wols_, well its ddr1 then, but i still cant afford to buy any :P
[09:29] <wols_> group
[09:29] <enviouz> ubuntu
[09:29] <blanky> wols_: oh yes it does
[09:29] <wols_> erm, groups
[09:29] <blanky> wols_: how do I find out if im in the group
[09:29] <blanky> oh okay
[09:29] <blanky> wolki: yeah i am
[09:29] <blanky> ls /dev/ | grep dsp shows dsp
[09:29] <enviouz> basically i need that kernel so i can fix the ati fast switching problem
[09:29] <blanky> so it's there
[09:31] <dchky> You are not likely to have problems with the newer kernel enviouz, providing it's built right that is, though you will have problems when it comes to using things like apt-get to do updates.
[09:31] <enviouz> oh ok
[09:32] <dchky> I'm not sure how Ubuntu acts when confronted with custom compiled kernels.
[09:32] <PIPBoy_> does anyone know if theres a specific shortcut key for the terminal? or do you have to create one?
[09:32] <x0qa> what's the keyboard shortcut to get a dialog window in which you can type your command to execute? and what's the name of the program?
[09:32] <dchky> Sorry the Update feature I mean.
[09:32] <enviouz> man i wish someone would build the packages for the new ati drivers and such it would make it very easy
[09:32] <dchky> Is .22 the only one that has what you want?
[09:33] <enviouz> well bryce made a package for the driver including the modules but its for the .22 kernel
[09:33] <cyberix> Is there a specific place for modules system admin adds to linux module blacklist?
[09:34] <enviouz> but now i cant even find the package
[09:34] <wols_> !blacklist
[09:34] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[09:34] <dchky> I say just download the .22 kernel and wait for Ubuntu to catch up then. Just add it to Grub and away you go.
[09:34] <cyberix> I would not want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist because then I get questions about it while updating
[09:34] <enviouz> k ty
[09:34] <Kprofthreat> !doesntwork | poweruser1
[09:34] <ubotu> poweruser1: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:35] <predaeus_> x0qa, alt-f2 in gnome, gnome-terminal?
[09:35] <Kprofthreat> Nope!
[09:39] <|_ocke> im accepting donations though if anyone is willing to help a poor linux nerd with only half a job and forced to teach people windows xp and office xp to earn what i do for rent and am not allowed to tell them im training them to be dependent and subservient to the one company that cares the least and infringes on the rights of their customers the most, while charging them as much and as often as  possible, even multiple times for the same software
[09:39] <|_ocke> i need some ram, possibly a better processor (though this one actually works great)
[09:39] <|_ocke> and a dvd burner at soem point
[09:39] <|_ocke> i have cd burners, dvdroms, a geforce fx 5500
[09:39] <Kprofthreat> !spam poweruser1
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam poweruser1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <[ThC] Primski> Boooooooooom!
[09:39] <|_ocke> oh i need a better nvidia card if anyone has one lying around hehe
[09:39] <Kprofthreat> !spam | poweruser1
[09:39] <[ThC] Primski> Boooooooooom!
[09:39] <ubotu> poweruser1: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:40] <nimbo> how do i activate smileys in xchat? /set text_emoticons ON doesn't work
[09:40] <Madpilot> I don't think xchat does graphical smileys. Thank God.
[09:41] <nimbo> it does
[09:41] <PIPBoy_> does anyone know if theres a specific shortcut key for the terminal? or do you have to create one?
[09:41] <PIPBoy_> and if so, how do i create a shortcut key?
[09:42] <Madpilot> PIPBoy_, in gnome, go System->Prefs->Keyboard Shortucuts - I've mapped "open terminal" to the righthand menu key here
[09:44] <_Ahti_> I've got an USB-key here that had "died", I tried installing Puppy Linux on it and thus, formatted it (can't remember to what?) and now. I can't mount it... I can't access it... I can't use it.. Is there a way to "fix" it?
[09:44] <Prometheus> Hey guys, Is there an online multiplayer poker game that will run in ubuntu?
[09:45] <_Ahti_> Prometheus: Yeaah, just can't remember what it was called... PokerX? Try searching Synaptic
[09:45] <Madpilot> PIPBoy_, no problem - but please ask before PMing, generally...
[09:45] <noiesmo> Prometheus, I use Pokerstars under wine
[09:46] <Prometheus> noiesmo: Does it run ok?
[09:46] <Madpilot> PIPBoy_, ask in-channel (ie here) before PMing...
[09:46] <Prometheus> _Ahti_: Can't find it there man... got kpoker?
[09:46] <noiesmo> Prometheus, yeah fine just down load the exe and get wine to install
[09:46] <BetaTester> Hi all. Anybody here familiar with ghostscript?
[09:47] <Prometheus> noiesmo: Thanks man :)
[09:47] <noiesmo> Prometheus, np :)
[09:47] <d2dchat> how do you get the apple-esk application bar ?
[09:47] <zak> i've got a logitech USB headset.. it seems to be detected by ubuntu [shows up in volume control/sound options] , but i can't get any sound to actually come through it [test button in sound preferences, and stuck on mute in volume control] .. any suggestions?
[09:47] <d2dchat> or at least what is it called?
[09:47] <cad> I reinstalled ubuntu and wanted to manipulate that script file that lets synaptic access the universe and multiverse servers. Any help? I only need to know the file name.
[09:47] <VoX> cad: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:48] <cad> Thank you Vox. Side question - so if Synaptic the gui front-end for the apt utility?
[09:50] <zak> grr
[09:50] <zak> brb
[09:52] <mat1980> cad: yes, Synaptic is only a front-end for apt
[09:53] <cad> Thanks for the info.
[09:54] <|_ocke> nimbo, it doesnmt do emoticons by default. i am thankful
[09:54] <|_ocke> i HATE it when chat progs replace text with little graphical emoticons
[09:54] <nimbo> |_ocke: so what do i have to change then? ^_^
[09:55] <|_ocke> half the time they arent even supposed to be emotes in the fist place
[09:55] <|_ocke> nimbo, are you using xchat-gnome, or real xchat?
[09:56] <nimbo> hm xchat 2.8.0
[09:56] <nimbo> i think real xchat
[09:56] <|_ocke> thats what im running
[09:56] <|_ocke> probably real then
[09:57] <enviouz> anybody that can give me a hand. just installed ati drivers from ati website but something still isnt right
[09:57] <|_ocke> do you see :) :( =) =( :P or are they little graphics?
[09:57] <nimbo> lol
[09:57] <nimbo> i know what graphics are
[09:57] <nimbo> :-P
[09:57] <nimbo> :-
[09:58] <nimbo> and i want EMOTICONS!
[09:58] <nimbo> ^_^
[09:58] <defrysk> argh!
[09:58] <leagris> !wuanta
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wuanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <|_ocke> you WANT emoticon graphics?
[09:58] <leagris> !quanta
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <enviouz> At next boot, Ubuntu will load an old version of fglrx, so you have to blacklist it by changing /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx" where somemodule2 is the old contents of that line. When you have finished this last change, reboot and (hopefully) enjoy your 3-d acceleration. <---- whats the meaning of this im confised?
[09:58] <nimbo> i want EMOTICONS!
[09:58] <nimbo> :-D
[09:59] <|_ocke> oh... :P gross
[09:59] <|_ocke> i thought you were sick of them showing up
[09:59] <defrysk> lol
[09:59] <|_ocke> i was trying to figure out how they could be enabled to disable them
[09:59] <defrysk> I would be
[09:59] <|_ocke> em too
[09:59] <nimbo>  /set text_emoticons ON|OFF
[09:59] <|_ocke> i think they're retarded and annoying and completely unnecessary for anything :P
[10:00] <|_ocke> but if you really want them, you can run IRC in Gaim
[10:00] <nimbo> emoticons are funny :-P
[10:00] <leagris> Can someone help about using Quanta HTML editor in gnome environment. I have problems working with UTF-8 encoded documents because keyboard input bring unproperly encoded typing.
[10:00] <|_ocke> erm.. i dont see how
[10:00] <nimbo> irc on gaim? hm
[10:00] <|_ocke> they're little smileys and roses and stuff in the middle of an otherwise information-conveying sentence
[10:01] <nimbo> i like smileys -_-
[10:01] <PIPBoy_> i like...msn?
[10:01] <defrysk> nimbo, poor you ... ;p
[10:01] <mat1980> leagris: I never experienced problems with quanta in gnome
[10:01] <|_ocke> if emoticons in chat are an issue for you you'll probably find Gaim IRC a more user friendly experience and prettier anyways
[10:01] <PIPBoy_> (Q)
[10:01] <nimbo> :-P
[10:02] <leagris> mat1980, when typing  it gets  instead and so on with UTF-8 documents.
[10:02] <|_ocke> nimbo, no proper or standard irc client would ever have emoticons
[10:02] <nimbo> xchat does
[10:02] <|_ocke> only IM clients that support IRC as well
[10:02] <|_ocke> hmm
[10:02] <PIPBoy_> :)
[10:02] <imbecile> hey guys, how do i kill firefox in terminal?
[10:02] <nimbo> killall firefox-bin
[10:02] <defrysk> nimbo, http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q224
[10:02] <PIPBoy_> <3 nimbo
[10:02] <d-b> Do you know how I can configure my screen resolution to go down up to 640x480?
[10:02] <dotx> hello
[10:02] <imbecile> nimbo,  thanks
[10:02] <|_ocke> what with auto-replace?
[10:03] <mat1980> leagris: I do a try, wait a moment
[10:03] <leagris> mat1980, already present UTF-8 display ok but there is problem with keyboard input.
[10:03] <enviouz> nobody knows?
[10:03] <|_ocke> d-b, ctrl-alt- (+/-) on numpad
[10:03] <nimbo> defrysk: so what does "at install" mean
[10:03] <|_ocke> if your xorg is set up with multiple resolutions
[10:04] <|_ocke> enviouz, knows what
[10:04] <|_ocke> all ive seen you say for like 15 mins is 'anybody knows?'
[10:04] <|_ocke> dont even know wajt youre asking about
[10:04] <enviouz> At next boot, Ubuntu will load an old version of fglrx, so you have to blacklist it by changing /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx" where somemodule2 is the old contents of that line. When you have finished this last change, reboot and (hopefully) enjoy your 3-d acceleration. <---- whats the meaning of this im confised?
[10:05] <enviouz> it says old contents there isnt anything there
[10:05] <gordonjcp> enviouz: that doesn't matter
[10:05] <enviouz> 3d acceleration still isnt working
[10:06] <gordonjcp> enviouz: did you follow the instructions?
[10:06] <d-b> |_ocke, the thing is that the Resolution is not available in the menu
[10:06] <enviouz> to the letter
[10:06] <|_ocke> that means when you get done with the set of steps its describing, reboot it will load the old ati driver by default, so you ahve to tell it not to load the old module explicitly
[10:06] <gordonjcp> so you've blacklisted fglrx?
[10:06] <mat1980> leagris: ok. you could fix using è in the html. is your keybord layout properly configured?
[10:07] <gordonjcp> lastlog leagris
[10:07] <leagris> mat1980, yes it is. There are no problems with GTK/gnome applications
[10:07] <gordonjcp> bah
[10:07] <enviouz> just simply put fglrx in disabled modules or waht? it says include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx" where somemodule2 is the old contents of that line. but there isnt anything tehre.
[10:08] <gordonjcp> leagris: sounds like quanta specifically isn't working properly
[10:08] <gordonjcp> enviouz: right
[10:08] <gordonjcp> enviouz: so think about this carefully
[10:08] <south01> hi, what is to best program to transfer music to my ipod
[10:08] <gordonjcp> replace "somemodule2" with whatever has already been blacklisted
[10:08] <|_ocke> d-b, try editing your x config
[10:08] <|_ocke> erm lemem se
[10:08] <gordonjcp> enviouz: so if there's *nothing* already blacklisted...
[10:08] <leagris> gordonjcp, indeed. Kedit itself as no problems with UTF-8 input. Only Khtml/Quanta+
[10:09] <gordonjcp> enviouz: what does that suggest you do?
[10:09] <|_ocke> add "640x480" to the line for the color depth you use
[10:09] <enviouz> put the old mobule in?
[10:09] <|_ocke> or does that mean anything to you?
[10:09] <gordonjcp> leagris: kde/qt apps are a bit out of my field of expertise, but I'd be looking for separate i18n settings for khtml
[10:09] <gordonjcp> enviouz: is the bit that says "DISABLED_MODULES=" there?
[10:10] <south01> hi, what is to best program to transfer music to my ipod
[10:10] <gordonjcp> south01: iTunes
[10:10] <south01> are there any iTunes for ubuntu?
 any that you know how to work
[10:11] <|_ocke> south01, no
[10:11] <CheshireViking> !ipod | south01
[10:11] <ubotu> south01: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:11] <|_ocke> and you dont want it
 itunes suck
[10:11] <cad> In synaptic, where the hell is slime?
[10:11] <enviouz> yes it says DISABLED_MODULES="" and thats it
[10:11] <|_ocke> the whole point of linux is to be free to do what you want with your computer, and do it for free
[10:11] <rausb0> !rockbox
[10:11] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[10:11] <south01> let me check this adress
[10:11] <south01> thanx
[10:11] <mat1980> leagris:  I guessed. So it's a quanta problem. Have you any other kde app installed? have you there the same problem?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> south01: no, but it *is* the best program for getting tunes onto your iPod
[10:12] <|_ocke> not to pay for some company to tell you when, where, and how many tiems you can listen to your music
 and m4p is gay
[10:12] <gordonjcp> insmod: I don't use an iPod
[10:12] <leagris> mat1980, have all the KDE stuffs installed because I worked within KDE some time ago.
[10:12] <Noah0504> What's the easiest way to upload files to my server via SSH?
[10:12] <gordonjcp> insmod: if I want digital audio, I'll use minidisc
 then don't help
[10:12] <south01> i see..
[10:12] <leagris> mat1980, could you reproduce the UTF-8 input wierdness?
[10:12] <south01> but..
[10:12] <d-b> |_ocke, trying it. BRB
[10:12] <south01> i got amarok
[10:12] <south01> it cannot see my ipod
  and it is not the best
[10:13] <mat1980> leagris: no, I can't. can you teach me?
[10:13] <south01> !rockbox
[10:13] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[10:13] <|_ocke> you do not want to use DRM protected music
 it can
[10:13] <south01> i said connect..
[10:13] <south01> but no thing happens
  you have to show it the place in configure
  /media/xxxxxx
[10:14] <|_ocke> its only a matter of time befoer they will decide they dont like the way you have the freedom to copy your music to 5 devices, eevn though it will delete it on the previous device so you can only have it on one at a time, and they will make you buy it every time you want to download it again or pcopy it to another computer or device
[10:14] <|_ocke> so itll be $1 to get it on you computer, then if you wanmt it on your 'ipod' itll be another $1, then if you want to send it to your friend over the net itll be another $1
[10:15] <|_ocke> then if you burn an audio cd with it itll be another $1
[10:15] <gordonjcp> south01: I *think* you have to install a separate package called "ipod"
[10:15] <gordonjcp> south01: it's been a while since I've set this up, and it was for someone else anyway ;-)
[10:15] <south01> hmm..
[10:15] <south01> let me try more
  hey if i need bad sound i will ask u next :)
  no you don't
[10:16] <south01> i think i've done it..
[10:16] <south01> i entered the path manually..
[10:16] <south01> and it recognizes
[10:16] <gordonjcp> south01: cool, and you can see your iPod correctly?
  there you go
[10:16] <PIPBoy_> how do i delete files from the command line? specifically folders?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: rmdir
[10:16] <south01> yes
[10:16] <leagris> mat1980, open quanta, go to menu Settings/Configure Quanta select environment Icon in left side then set Default character encoding to utf8. After that, create a new xhtml/xml document and try typing some accentuated characters    ...
[10:17] <|_ocke> screw apple and sony and their trying to tell us how we can use what we paid for, and thinking they are so big and bad and the only place we can get what we want to listen to that they should rent their content to the user
 if you want it to do it with out entering  that edit fstab
[10:17] <south01> whats that?
[10:17] <south01> i iwll try to add music now
[10:17] <insmod> south01> file system tab
[10:18] <mat1980> leagris: it was already configured to use utf-8 ad default. It works.
  who rocks :)
[10:19] <|_ocke> they are spitting in their customers faces
  linux 11 yrs i can't go wrong
[10:19] <|_ocke> it was illegal for them to not let people buy VCRs and record the movies they owned back in the 80s, why should it be legal for them to not let people buy the music file without conht
[10:19] <PIPBoy_> how do i delete files from the command line? specifically folders with items in it? like root protected folders
[10:19] <|_ocke> without controlling how it can be used and monitoring where and when it is, and keeping track of every time you play it
[10:19] <CheshireViking> !offtopic
[10:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:19] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, rm -fR (dir)
[10:19] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: I already told you
[10:20] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: rmdir
[10:20] <|_ocke> that will delete the directory and everything in it without discretion
[10:20] <|_ocke> so be careful
[10:20] <gordonjcp> remove the contents first
[10:20] <|_ocke> and every thing under it
[10:20] <andruk> i cant get a reiserfs partition to show up in "Computer".  here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26710/
 in canada we pa a sir tax for that
[10:20] <gordonjcp> don't use rm -rf unless you absolutely, totally entirely know what you're doing
 in canada we pay a sir tax for that
[10:20] <neocortex> Hello, does anyone had problems installing skype?
[10:20] <|_ocke> insmod, for mp3s?
 yup
[10:21] <|_ocke> gordonjcp, well of course not, but if you really need to thats hwo its done
 a tax added on all media capable devices
[10:21] <|_ocke> insmod, how do you pay a mp3 tax?
[10:21] <PIPBoy_> gordon, i keep getting an error message saying "directory not empty"
 anything that holds data has a tax
 that is paid to the recording industry
[10:22] <|_ocke> is it like you pay extra for any computer, stereo, mp3 capable car cd player, portable mp3 player, memoy card, usb flash disk, etc?
[10:22] <zaphands> Hello. How do I change the remote desktop port?
 yup
[10:22] <|_ocke> oh god, that really bothers me
[10:23] <PIPBoy_> -_-
 works well
[10:23] <|_ocke> i really dont think the RIAA deserves anything for my usb flash disk or my mp3 player or my computer or any of that
[10:23] <|_ocke> only a part of what i pay for music
[10:23] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: yes, but in general, if you need to ask how to remove a whole bunch of root-owned directories with contents, you probably shouldn't be doing that
 they did in canada and us when tape recorders came in
[10:24] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[10:24] <|_ocke> so basically you pay for a right to download and use pirated music and such
 for freedom not to use ituse -- ithink it is
[10:24] <|_ocke> since you pay the tax on devices, they shouldnt be able to say anything about downloading the content since you alerady pay for the right to  use it
 :) that's right
[10:25] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: the problem isn't piracy, it's that mp3, free software and cheap hosting has massively lowered the barrier-to-entry for musicians
[10:25] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: and now musicians don't need to pay their tithe to the RIAA/BMI/whoever
[10:26] <|_ocke> yeah so anybody can make music if they have the dedication
[10:26] <|_ocke> thats a good thing
[10:26] <rbs-tito> gordonjcp: More artists should sign with Magnatune
[10:26] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: yes, and literally for free
[10:26] <|_ocke> we might actually get some talented artists now
[10:26] <gordonjcp> rbs-tito: magnatune rocks
[10:26] <|_ocke> instead of just the corporate sponsored inheritors of the rigth to sell crappy music and movies
[10:26] <gordonjcp> rbs-tito: so does Jamendo, if you like French trip-hop
[10:26] <ziroday> can someone have a look at this script and tell me whats wrong??
[10:27] <gordonjcp> you can pick up a PC from a skip that's good enough to run some audio software
[10:27] <rbs-tito> gordonjcp: Indeed it does, rhythymbox integrates it well: if you use Amarok with magnatune then Amarok get a % of proceeds, shame rhythymbox doesn't have a similar deal
[10:27] <gordonjcp> download Ubuntu Studio, and you're good to go
[10:27] <gordonjcp> rbs-tito: nice!
[10:28] <rbs-tito> Maybe if we use the rhythymbox interface more it will show them that rhythymbox has a substantial share of the market, or is going that way
[10:28] <|_ocke> yeah, well if the RIAA doesnt support or help promote the artists, how do they deserve any sort of profit off of the creators who do all the owrk themselves, or off of the listeners who are downloading and listening to original content licensed by its actual creators
[10:28] <|_ocke> XMMS plz
[10:29] <rbs-tito> I dream of the day Ubuntu finally becomes so big that Gnome overtakes KDE, and KDE apps aren't the most heavily developed. Amarok and K3B are good, but use hideous QT3 UIs
[10:29] <|_ocke> ive been trying amarok today because i ended up with an album i havent had a working version of in years in WMA format
[10:29] <andruk> i cant get a reiserfs partition to show up in "Computer".  here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26710/
[10:29] <|_ocke> and it isnt supported in xmms without some plugin
[10:30] <andruk> anybody know much about reiser?
mount it
[10:30] <|_ocke> and to be honest i dont really want it to support wma because i despise anybody that would encode anything in wma, much less distribute it in the godawful format
[10:31] <andruk> insmod: its mounted.  it does not show up in "Computer"
[10:31] <|_ocke> i bet standard wma has some flags in it that in a couple years, microsoft is going to flip so that every single time anybody plays a wma file it contacts them and if they dont have a license fot the\
[10:31] <linux_user400354> how can i add files to an iso?
[10:31] <andruk> insmod: i have to navigate to /mnt/storage to access it
[10:31] <|_ocke> for the file on record, they send the cops to your house to try to collect for them
[10:32] <|_ocke> since MS is in the process of alienating their own customers right now and driving them to any other alternative that doesnt inspect every single action you try tot take and ask for confirmation while it alerts MS of your risky behavior
[10:32] <Tony_> How do you enable loging in as root from the login screen. I made allowroot=true but it still doesn't work. I am using xubuntu
[10:32] <wilrecar77> when i update my system, for repeated programs it says the locale settings failed and its reverting back to "c". is this good or bad
 lol i hate gnome so no idea - i use enlightenment blackbox etc
[10:33] <rbs-tito> Tony_: run "sudo passwd"
[10:33] <|_ocke> so they can sell the appropriate advertiser your contact info to sell you software that will supposedly close the hole you are paranoid about since ms has been telling you every 10 minutes that you are vulnerable andyou have to let it block such dangerous requests for outside information
[10:33] <Tony_> Won't that just change the password?
[10:33] <CheshireViking> !root  | Tony_