[04:05] <mneptok> ToddEDM: WEP, WPA, WPA2? what form of password (hex, ASCII)?
[04:05] <nickrud> louzer, you'll need to do ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid , so we can see what those uuid's point at. it's too long for here, put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <ninjabuntu> Pelo: I'v goodled a lot, Thats why I started with GTKpod. but I'll try those as well. link42: I give that a try as well, one of these is bound to work mneptok:what ever you say dude.
[04:05] <mneptok> Pelo: not having kids helps ;)
[04:06] <__mikem> mneptok, i can never get the ASCII keys to work properly, and I am not just talking about in ubuntu
[04:06] <D-MAN> pelo how do you burn iso with gnomebaker
[04:06] <mneptok> ninjabuntu: facts are facts. Apple actively tries to prevent iPod usage with anything but iTunes.
[04:06]  * nickrud checks mneptoks netmask one more time
[04:07] <mneptok> nickrud: <IP_ADDRESS>, like most folks ;)
[04:07] <louzer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81187/
[04:07] <Pelo> D-MAN, you open gnomebaker from the sound /video menu, and select cd image or dvd image from the tool menu I beleive,  in anycase , it is in the menu somewhere , not a button
[04:07] <ToddEDM> mneptok:  im using WPA , but it should be open now, i resetted it
[04:07] <D-MAN> pelo did not see the option to burn iso?
[04:07] <nickrud> mneptok, hhahahah. I need to give up the root beer ;)
[04:07] <louzer> nickrud: I pasted it there
[04:07] <Pelo> D-MAN, burn image
[04:07] <louzer> mneptok: I pasted it there
[04:07] <nickrud> louzer, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid , don't forget the -l
[04:07] <mneptok> ToddEDM: does the AP appear in the nm-applet list?
[04:08] <__mikem> mneptok, ^
[04:08] <mneptok> __mikem: hrm?
[04:08] <__mikem> mneptok, i can never get the ASCII keys to work properly, and I am not just talking about in ubuntu
[04:08] <ToddEDM> mneptok:  im not sure what the nm-applet list is, but i do see the AP in the list of ones within range
[04:08] <mneptok> __mikem: that only matters for WEP. and WEP is useless.
[04:09] <mneptok> ToddEDM: you might want to power-cycle the AP to ensure the new settings take affect
[04:09] <louzer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81188/
[04:09] <ToddEDM> mneptok:  you mean powercycling by holding reset while pulling the power off the back?
[04:09] <ToddEDM> wrt-54g
[04:10] <mneptok> ToddEDM: no, just unplug, wait 30s, and restore power
[04:10] <louzer> mneptok: I have pasted it there.
[04:10] <louzer> nickrud: I ave pasted it there
[04:10] <mneptok> ToddEDM: then ensure you can connect from another machine with no authentication
[04:10] <ToddEDM> yea i did that a few times... i have a windows PC connected to it (wired) , but my buntu laptop and desktop cannot connect wirelessly
[04:10] <mneptok> ToddEDM: and be sure that you don't have MAC filtering set up, and if you do, the MAC address of the Ubuntu machine is in the whitelist.
[04:11] <nickrud> louzer, it looks like it should be root (hd0,1) for the windows stanza
[04:11] <ToddEDM> mneptok:  maybe these buntu machines are still trying to put a password in???
[04:11] <ToddEDM> could that be?
[04:12] <mneptok> ToddEDM: could be. just be sure to tell it not to use encryption. you should get the choice when it fails.
[04:12] <Guest95320> I need help, currently I get dropped to busybox because /dev/disk/by-uuid/<random> doesnot exist
[04:12] <Pelo> new wine is available in the winehq repos
[04:13] <ToddEDM> mneptok:  yea i dont get anything that pops up
[04:13] <ToddEDM> :(
[04:13] <nickrud> louzer, like http://paste.ubuntu.com/81190/
[04:13] <artyg> Hello #ubuntuuuu!
[04:14]  * Pelo looks at artyg suspiciously
[04:14] <nickrud> louzer, when you have a chance, do lsb_release -a ; grub --version for me and let me know what it says
[04:14] <artyg> Now don't look at me like that : |
[04:14] <louzer> nickrud: but that menu.lst is same as my current one
[04:15] <artyg> Ubuntu is being meaaaan on my netbook, anyone good with general LAN problems in Ubuntu?
[04:16] <D-MAN_> need help cd rom not workig wodim: Sorry, no supported CD/DVD-Recorder found
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> artyg: which netbook?
[04:16] <nickrud> louzer, unless you have another disk you're not telling us about, that is a pretty much vanilla grub stanza. It's worked for every windows install (that works) for over 8 years
[04:16] <artyg> Acer Aspire One
[04:16] <louzer> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81192/
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> artyg: do you know what NIC it has?  (wired or wireless?)
[04:16] <louzer> nickrud: I have other partitions and windows is on sda4
[04:16] <dudus> artyg: by LAN do you mean wireless?
[04:17] <louzer> nickrud: so I tried (hd0,3)
[04:17] <louzer> nickrud: but it does not work
[04:17] <artyg> I mean classic wired LAN
[04:18] <nickrud> louzer, for a second drive it would be (hd1,x) (0 for the first partition). And you'd have to add some drive mapping if the windows install is on the second drive.
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> artyg: do you know the chipset?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> artyg: (lspci can tell you some details if you don't offhand)
[04:18] <louzer> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81196/
[04:18] <artyg> Realtek RTL8101E/8102E PCIe
[04:18] <dudus> artyg: I have an aspire one and wired was working fine after a clean install of intrepid
[04:19] <dudus> artyg: you should check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[04:19] <nickrud> louzer, sudo fdisk -l , paste that. I need to see the complete disk layout you have
[04:19] <artyg> This whole "pinging works fine, but you can't download more than like...3KB" thing is making my mind hurt.
[04:19] <D-MAN_> need help getting my cd rom drive working in ubuntu hardy
[04:19] <nickrud> earthquake in LA!
[04:19] <Emphastala> yikes, fspot can really act goofy when handling 40k+ images
[04:20] <louzer> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81200/
[04:20] <newbnewb> Quick question
[04:21] <nickrud> louzer, we've just had a quake here
[04:21] <Guest95320> any tools to recovery filesin linux and boot from a usb
[04:21] <Guest67812> Now that kde 4.1 is really COOL thanks for all the help folks..
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: good material for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <artyg> I do wish I could use that Aspire One guide, but the wired just doesn't work.
[04:21] <louzer> nickrud: am I in hell?
[04:22] <AndyB> After a lot of issues, i have done a complete install of ubuntu to an external usb drive, with XP on my internal drive. The problem now is that in the ubuntu install, grub was placed on the usb drive, so now i need the usb drive to be plugged in if i want to boot my pc, anybody have any suggestions?
[04:22] <chrisM> My Acer One worked out of the box. You sure you don't have a defective netbook port?
[04:22] <artyg> I'm using the Ubuntu-linked torrent to 8.10-Desktop
[04:22] <nickrud> louzer, not yet, but I gotta go (sorry tonyyarusso I forgot to explain I would be away for a bit, that's the reason)
[04:23] <mneptok> AndyB: boot to Windows and run fixmbr
[04:23] <moDumass> hey all, ive just rebooted after system update and im in 640x480 land, with compiz-fusion running, but no more 1440x900
[04:23] <louzer> nickrud: ok
[04:23] <newbnewb> I used a knoppix live CD and instructed it to load "toram" and with the "noswap" function.  I also did not do anything with the filesystems (at least not intentionally).  Now when I boot ubuntu from the hard disk and list open files of firefox, tor, or any other tcp using process, I get this type of log entry... http://pastebin.com/m366fb935  has knoppix modified my system, and is there an easy way to see an undo such modifications?
[04:23] <Pelo> louzer, generaly speaking , windows likes to be on eh first partition , your sitituation is giving us difficulties
[04:23] <moDumass> and my xorg.conf has been completely erased
[04:23] <newbnewb> see and undo*
[04:23] <emendo> Ubuntu screen problem: I notice that when I watch video on vlc or movieplayer that when I move other windows around (video was not maximized) that when minimized they will leave...well... like a "ghost" of itself. The only way to stop it is to make the entire desktop a selection. Any ideas?
[04:23] <D-MAN_> could someone please help me get my cd rom to work
[04:24] <mn> D_MAN_ what is ther problem?
[04:24] <mn> s/the/ther
[04:24] <AndyB> mneptok, i tried that before, but then without grub i couldnt boot into the usb, as when i hit F12 on boot for the boot order, i dont have USB
[04:25] <Pelo> louzer, after the title line , add the following  map (hd0,0) (hd0,3) , then line map (hd0,3) (hd0,0) , then make the root line  root (hd0,3) ,  and try it
[04:25] <mn> D-MAN_ ^^
[04:25] <Pelo> D-MAN_, if it is not working with either brasero , gnomebaker or nautilus,  maybe the burner is the problem
[04:25] <artyg> Should I be suspicious if eth0 is complaining about no IPv6 routers present?
[04:25] <chrisM> AndyB get the file mbrfix from google. It will let you do a mbr repair from within windows
[04:25] <D-MAN_> mn wodim: Sorry, no supported CD/DVD-Recorder found
[04:25] <hwilde> artyg, no
[04:26] <louzer> Pelo: ok I will try now
[04:26] <artyg> Okay, I should just worry about net access being extremely strange.
[04:26] <D-MAN_> pelo just says not found
[04:26] <AndyB> chrisM, ill look into it thanks, brb have to reboot
[04:26] <mn> D-MAN_: When you insert a blank CD or DVD, your system won't detect it?
[04:26] <Pelo> D-MAN_, what does it say on the front of the dvd player ?
[04:27] <D-MAN_> mn that is correct
[04:27] <artyg> Here's the fun: I start the aspire, it loads up pretty well, acquires the IP through DHCP, pings fine. If I try to update apt-get, it downloads the first 2 files correctly, then quits. After a while, it stops being able to ping and can't connect to the network anymore.
[04:28] <D-MAN_> pelo it says allot of stuff
[04:28] <artyg> I believe this is possessed and hates me for some reason.
[04:28] <RivitingOne> I am having trouble getting dvds to play on my 8.04 system. I have tried totem, vlc, movie player, mplayer and they all seem to freez after playing most of the opening track. Anyone know ho wto resolve this issue?
[04:28] <Pelo> D-MAN_, does it say  dvd-r anywhere or cd-r ?
[04:28] <D-MAN_> yes both
[04:28] <mn> D-MAN_: I have had the exact same problem.  It will read just fine, but won't detect blank media.  I have tried most of the software and none of them have worked for me.
[04:28] <Pelo> D-MAN_, how about -rw ?
[04:29]  * Pelo thinks he might be wrong here
[04:29] <D-MAN_> pelo yes all disk support
[04:29] <Pelo> D-MAN_,  have you ever been able to burn a cd with that drive ?
[04:29] <emendo> Anyone care to help with a screen (X) problem?
[04:29] <D-MAN_> yes with vista
[04:29] <Pelo> emendo, just ask the question
[04:29] <moDumass> widescreen!
[04:29] <D-MAN_> lol
[04:29] <mn> emendo: what is the problem
[04:30] <emendo> I already did.
[04:30] <Pelo> D-MAN_, can you read a cd with it ?
[04:30] <D-MAN_> pelo yes i have burned images before many times
[04:30] <Pelo> emendo, if you want help you'll state your issue again
[04:30] <Pelo> D-MAN_, recently ?
[04:30] <D-MAN_> pelo let me try
[04:30] <emendo> Ubuntu screen problem: I notice that when I watch video on vlc or movieplayer that when I move other windows around (video was not maximized) that when minimized they will leave...well... like a "ghost" of itself. The only way to stop it is to make the entire desktop a selection. Any ideas?
[04:31] <D-MAN_> pelo a week ago on xp
[04:31] <emendo> This has never happened until now.
[04:31] <mn> Pelo:  I am experiencing the same problem myself.
[04:31] <Pelo> emendo, might be a driver issue, or maybe your video card just isn't strong enough, it's not a x issue
[04:31] <mn> D-MAN_:  What are the spec on your machine?
[04:31] <Pelo> mn,  same probblem as ?
[04:31] <D-MAN_> pelo when i first boot up it allows me to open cd tray but when i close it it wont open again?
[04:31] <emendo> Pelo: That was more of a guess.
[04:31] <RivitingOne> Can changing resolution or going to a wide screen monitor cause video playback on a dvd to no longer function using vlc, xine, Mplayer movie player and totem?
[04:32] <mn> Pelo: same as d-man
[04:32] <emendo> On my part I mean.
[04:32] <Pelo> emendo, turn off the desktop effects
[04:32] <emendo> Have none.
[04:32] <balrog_> is there a PPA for python3.0 yet?
[04:32] <D-MAN_> pentium 4 3.0 with 2gigs of ram
[04:33] <D-MAN_> pelo
[04:33] <Pelo> D-MAN_, yes ?
[04:33] <mn> What company is it built by?  Dell/
[04:33] <mn> ?*
[04:33] <emendo> mn: Dell
[04:33] <D-MAN_> pelo and an ati radeon 1650 pro graphics card
[04:33] <emendo> Came with linux shipped.
[04:33] <Pelo> D-MAN_,  the graphic card quesiton was not for you
[04:34] <Pelo> D-MAN_, how hold is this cd/dvd player ?
[04:34] <mn> emendo: hrmm, i don't know
[04:34] <D-MAN_> pelo bout 1 yr
[04:35] <nickh> Good Evening -- can anyone tell me if there is an easy/quick way to enable Lazy Writes (Write-Back-Cache) for external storage devices (Thumb Drives, HDDs, etc) in Intrepid?  Appreciate any suggestions.
[04:35] <emendo> mn: What would you suggest (wording I mean) if I want to search on the internet?
[04:35] <balrog_> is there a PPA for python3.0 yet?
[04:35] <Pelo> D-MAN_, depending on the environement ( smoke , dust) , it might already be finished,  I had a bunch like that , they would last no more then a year,  they were lg ,
[04:36] <emendo> mn: "ghost" is not going to get any hits. But that is the only way I can describe it at the moment.
[04:36] <mn> emendo: x server not working [insert error here]
[04:36] <JulioNeto> When I play any YouTube vídeo with Totem (by its plugin) it shows me a error with ffdemux_swf
[04:37] <mn> Pelo: My drive reads fine, but my comp won't detect writable media.  Is it a software or hardware problem do you think?
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> So, I tried using usb-creator to make a flash version of the 8.04.1 Desktop CD.  It seems to have succeeded, and I can boot to the menu.  I can then run the integrity check, which succeeds.  However, both the "start Ubuntu" and "install Ubuntu" options end up dropping to a BusyBox shell with the (initramfs) prompt.  Any idea what's going on?
[04:37] <D-MAN_> pelo dont think its the player it says its not detected
[04:37] <satoichi> k k
[04:37] <Pelo> mn there is an issue with brasero doing that , try with gnomebaker
[04:37] <D-MAN_> pelo wodim: Sorry, no supported CD/DVD-Recorder found
[04:37] <mn> Pelo:  I've tried most of them.  including gnomebaker
[04:37] <Pelo> D-MAN_, can'T even read cd ? , open the box ( turn computer off first ) , check the plugs
[04:38] <Pelo> mn, I would say probably a hardware issue
[04:38] <theacolyte> Can anyone tell me how to open a serial port on the live CD? Say if I wanted to talk to a Cisco router for example
[04:39] <JulioNeto> My problem is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/292476 but what is the solution?
[04:39] <Pelo> I'm done for the night ppl , g'night all , best of luck to you all
[04:39] <mn> later, thnx pelo
[04:39] <vero> ce_laruku
[04:40] <D-MAN_> pelo lol will do pelo its connected
[04:40] <artyg> Might using 8.04 instead of 8.10 result in different drivers used for certain hardware?
[04:40] <artyg> As in, per the guy that got Ubuntu working for his Aspire One, did you use .10 or .04?
[04:40] <Guest12911> when tring to use amarok,,,  There is no availabe decoder.. How so I listen to internet radio?
[04:40] <nickh> D-MAN: I had some issues with Intrepid (Brassero Disc Burner) not recognizing my Sony DRU-840AU USB2 external drive -- I tried all the usual diagnostics, but couldn't find the problem -- then I purchased a copy of Nero 3.5.1 For Linux, and all is fine.  Nero is a good app, you might want to try it.
[04:40] <D-MAN_> pelo new install of hardy
[04:41] <Lamo> anyone know whats up with firefox and gray boxes for flash? Flash works fine in Opera.
[04:41] <JulioNeto> well.. what codec should I install to watch YouTube videos in Totem?
[04:43] <moDumass> hey all, so i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now im just 640x480
[04:43] <moDumass> or something like that
[04:43] <Guest12911> There is no available decoder..  How do I listen to internet radio
[04:43] <moDumass> how do i load the old xorg.conf
[04:43] <JulioNeto> Lamo, I had a big problem with Flash. The solution was... well... nothing... I installed Gnash and it worked... after I installed Opera and it worked with both (Flash and Gnash)... I removed Gnash and for some reason... I don't know why... it (flash) is working in FF now
[04:44] <emendo> My caps lock has stopped working. Is this normal?
[04:44] <RivitingOne> Do I need to change setting for dvd playback if I change to a dvi cable and a new monitor? I was using a regular old cable before and I wasn't ahving problems.
[04:44] <RUbi_CutE> hai
[04:44] <emendo> (for ubuntu)
[04:44] <dudus> artyg: .10
[04:45] <artyg> Darn.
[04:45] <artyg> Stinky thinnnnng.
[04:45] <artyg> Yours is using the r8169 driver for ethernet, right?
[04:45] <newbnewb>  I used a knoppix live CD and instructed it to load "toram" and with the "noswap" function.  I also did not do anything with the filesystems (at least not intentionally).  Now when I boot ubuntu from the hard disk and list open files of firefox, tor, or any other tcp using process, I get this type of log entry... http://pastebin.com/m366fb935  has knoppix modified my system, and is there an easy way to see an undo such modifications?
[04:46] <Lamo> JulioNeto, Over all I'd say Ibex is complete garbage. Not only does flash go in and out my pcm keeps randomly getting muted. My external HDD keeps getting corrupted. My USB device won't mount some times and on top of all that it randomly freezes on me.
[04:47] <D-MAN_> is there any way to put a live cd iso onto a usb drive?
[04:47] <JulioNeto> Lamo, well... I'm on Hrdy
[04:47] <JulioNeto> :p
[04:47] <Stargazer> How much does Ubuntu server use ? does it come with a GUI ?
[04:47] <artyg> D-MAN: Search unetbootin
[04:48] <dimedo> does anyone use fsvs for /etc version control?
[04:48] <Stargazer> How much does Ubuntu server use in CPU/RAM* ? does it come with a GUI ?
[04:49] <Starnestommy> Stargazer: it doesn't come with a GUI by default but it uses the same repositories as the desktop edition and a GUI can be installed on it
[04:49] <artyg> Uhhhrrrrr, is there any way to restart a driver? I know, I probably sound completely retarded.
[04:49] <Stargazer> Starnestommy, about how much CPU/RAM does ubuntu server use ?
[04:50] <wicker> how do i upgrade to the latest ubuntu? i tried using Upgrade Manager and it doesn't give me the option?
[04:50] <RUbi_CutE> hi
[04:50] <RUbi_CutE> hio
[04:50] <Starnestommy> Stargazer: I'm not sure, but it depends on what services are running.  For a minimal installation, I wouldn't have anything less than 512 MB of RAM, but I'm not sure what the actual system requirements are
[04:51] <nickrud> !upgrade | wicker
[04:51] <JulioNeto> ^
[04:51] <JulioNeto> hehehe
[04:51] <nickrud> pelo, if you're about, did louzer get his boot fixed?
[04:52] <wicker> thanks, i'll check that out
[04:52] <rredd4_> is it possible to join two partions (sda1 with xp and unallocated) with gparted?
[04:52] <rredd4_> ubuntu is on sda2
[04:52] <Omar871> I need help setting up a wpa_supplicant configuration. Any help please?
[04:53] <RUbi_CutE> xxxxxxxxxxx
[04:54] <AlexandertheConf> Hello.
[04:54] <Starnestommy> Stargazer: I think the actual minimum requirement for RAM is 128 MB
[04:54] <nickrud> !requirements
[04:55] <Bungalo> harro
[04:55] <monchevique> hallo
[04:55] <AlexandertheConf> I can't figure out how to run shell scripts.
[04:56] <nickrud> AlexandertheConf, did you make them executable?
[04:56] <AlexandertheConf> how do I do that? My dad gave me my own Ubuntu machine, but I don't know how to do many things with it.
[04:57] <Bungalo> Anyone have success using antialiasing on compiz?
[04:57] <monchevique> you can what porn pages
[04:57] <Bungalo> I've tried everything I can think of
[04:57] <monchevique> watch
[04:57] <ganymede> hello, i'm using kde4 on kubuntu. i was wondering if anyone knows if there is a way i can read mp3 tags. if not through kde, then is there a good command-line tag reader?
[04:57] <monchevique> *
[04:57] <nickrud> AlexandertheConf, you would do   chmod u+x <filename> , then run it with   ./<filename> (this all assumes you're in the same dir as the shell script)
[04:57] <ganymede> a stable way* not amarok beta, or amarok from kde3
[04:57] <nickrud> ganymede, the guys in #kde would probably know the kde apps better
[04:58] <nickrud> ganymede, or #kubuntu
[04:58] <Bungalo> porn sounds good
[04:58] <Bungalo> I guess
[04:58] <ganymede> nickrud, oh whoops, just realized i'm in the wrong channel
[04:58] <ganymede> i thought this was #kde
[04:58] <nickrud> :)
[04:58] <maverick340> i am unable to force mount a undafely removed ext. hard drive
[04:58] <Bungalo> yeah
[04:58] <Bungalo> I have that prob too
[04:58] <maverick340>  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/<name> -o force
[04:58] <Bungalo> I have an old windows drive I need stuff from
[04:59] <D-MAN> are there any iso burning programs that work in ubuntu 8.04?
[04:59] <veltsu> Another beginner here with Ubuntu 8.04. My problem is with my wireless card. I just can't seem to get it to work. Using Acer 5100 with atheros ar5bmb5 8says at the bottom at least). Card is recognized by Ubuntu, but can't connect to the wireless
[04:59] <nickrud> D-MAN, right click the iso, select burn
[05:00] <Bungalo> yeah ubuntu has iso tools by default
[05:00] <Simple> so beginner that I didn't even have a nick just now
[05:01] <D-MAN> mickrud when i do it says cannot find device
[05:01] <nickrud> D-MAN, then it's a hardware problem most likely. if you look through the output of dmesg , you should see some error about the cdrom
[05:02] <Simple> lsmod
[05:02] <Simple> oops
[05:02] <AlexandertheConf> Thanks! There was that incredibly obvious ticky-box in permissions that I managed to miss until now too.
[05:04] <D-MAN> nickrud no it recognizes dvd and nusic cd but no blank cd
[05:04] <Bungalo> veltsu
[05:04] <Bungalo> have you tried using the restricted driver?
[05:04] <craigbass1976> Anyone familiar with ffmpeg?  I used it to convert mp3 to wav, but now I'm trying to go the other way with something.  I get an unsupported codec error
[05:05] <craigbass1976> I'm reading audacity is a good way to do this, but I thought a nice little command line quickie wouldbe better
[05:05] <nickrud> D-MAN, then you might try gnomebaker or brasero , see if they have any luck. If not, then I'd guess hardware problems again :)
[05:05] <Bungalo> pew pew
[05:05] <veltsu> Bungalo, care to elaborate? I've tried it with some of madwifi's tarballs, but to no avail
[05:06] <veltsu> I installed Ubuntu from a 7.10 cd and the card worked
[05:06] <wicker> i am way over my head and out of my comfort zone what is going on with my download
[05:06] <veltsu> it was a proprietary driver though, I think I got it from acr download site
[05:06] <veltsu> *acer
[05:06] <Bungalo> veltsu- Googling said that it should work with the restricted drivers. System->Administration->restricted drivers. Is there not a wifi driver there?
[05:07] <exodus_ms> mencoder?
[05:07] <Bungalo> er hardware drivers
[05:07] <monchevique> say something in spanish to see if I can help you
[05:07] <Bungalo> system->admin->hardware drivers
[05:07] <monchevique> xD
[05:07] <veltsu> yeah, the card is indeed displayed there
[05:07] <veltsu> it's enabled and in use
[05:08] <veltsu> but when I try to connect to a wireless network, it stays "acquiring network address"
[05:08] <monchevique> ooh what I meant is :make the most of it
[05:08] <monchevique> do all you are best
[05:08] <monchevique> right
[05:09] <monchevique> ooh im learning english
[05:09] <monchevique> here
[05:09] <monchevique> :P
[05:09] <bruenig> floodbot is going to cut you
[05:09] <monchevique> who?
[05:10] <newbnewb> Is there a better channel I can ask this? I used a knoppix live CD and instructed it to load "toram" and with the "noswap" function.  I also did not do anything with the filesystems (at least not intentionally).  Now when I boot ubuntu from the hard disk and list open files of firefox, tor, or any other tcp using process, I get this type of log entry... http://pastebin.com/m366fb935  has knoppix modified my system, and is there an easy way to see an undo such
[05:10] <monchevique> I also want to learn rude comments
[05:10] <monchevique> say something rude
[05:10] <monchevique> please
[05:10] <Bungalo> you are a butt slice
[05:10] <Bungalo> rude? no?
[05:11] <monchevique> kind of
[05:11] <monchevique> its more polite
[05:11] <monchevique> I guess
[05:11] <veltsu> I wouldn't want to be a slice of a butt
[05:11] <monchevique> :P
[05:11] <sloopy> ok you knobqueens
[05:12] <Bungalo> veltsu- I'm pretty unfamiliar with atheros chipsets and only slightly above a noob myself
[05:12] <monchevique> what does flutter girl mean
[05:12] <monchevique> ?
[05:12] <Bungalo> you
[05:12] <Bungalo> it means you
[05:12] <monchevique> if you can say it in spanish better
[05:12] <monchevique> ¬¬
[05:12] <monchevique> seriously
[05:13] <Bungalo> um
[05:13] <sloopy> how do you say knobqueen in spanish?
[05:13] <veltsu> Bungalo, thanks anyway. I'll keep reading and testing different setups. There must be a solution to this
[05:13] <Bungalo> my spanish is terrible
[05:13] <monchevique> maybe I can help you
[05:14] <monchevique> but it means something 4 you that word?
[05:14] <monchevique> flutter
[05:14] <monchevique> :S
[05:14] <monchevique> it's a modism
[05:14] <sloopy> flutter is a verb
[05:14] <monchevique> and it means....
[05:15] <sloopy> its what butterfly wings do when they fly
[05:15] <monchevique> oohh
[05:15] <monchevique> aletear
[05:15] <monchevique> and it includes the bird
[05:15] <monchevique> s
[05:15] <sloopy> yes birds too
[05:15] <TheMoebius> hey I need a little help with grub. I had an existing grub thing set up on hd0 and I wanted to leave all that intact so I switched the primary hard drive to hd1 in the bios, but when I installed ubuntu it still overwrote the boot sector of hd0 even though it wasn't the primary hard drive. So how so I add an entry in grub to boot another entry in grub
[05:15] <monchevique> aletero
[05:15] <monchevique> yes that's right
[05:15] <monchevique> aleteo
[05:15] <monchevique> aleteo de la chica
[05:15] <monchevique> I guess
[05:15] <FloodBot3> monchevique: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <monchevique> thank you
[05:16] <AlexandertheConf> Ok, This still isnt working. I will leave it to a little later.
[05:17] <gnutron> AlexandertheConf: the first line in your script must be #!/bin/bash
[05:18] <MrMustard> my top three distros are Arch Linux, Mint, and Openbsd
[05:19] <HorizonXP> hey, i think upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid server changed how BIND9 reads its config files. Anyway, i was wondering if anyone had a link to an up to date tutorial for how to set up BIND9 for a home network
[05:19] <kindofabuzz> how would i set it to where when i drag something to my desktop it stays where i drag it to instead of going to the next space after icons already there? make sense?
[05:19] <MrMustard> HorizonXP, just use /etc/host
[05:20] <MrMustard> HorizonXP, I mean /etc/hosts
[05:20] <HorizonXP> MrMustard: My ISP's DNS isn't that great, which is why I use BIND9 to grab DNS entries from the root servers directly
[05:20] <akm1> Hello, i ave installed dual-boot ubuntu on vista laptop and i can't figure and i cant figure out how to make wifi working...
[05:20] <munteanu> akm1:you need to install wireless card drivers
[05:21] <munteanu> akm1: its a different operating system, you dont have any drivers installed on it
[05:21] <MrMustard> HorizonXP, oh, i guess you couldn't use /etc/hosts for that - maybe it's time to find a new ISP?
[05:21] <akm1> ubuntu recognizes the card and loads the sky2 driver...
[05:21] <btoogood> hi there all I have gotten ubuntu 8.10 working on my laptop and is going well
[05:21] <HorizonXP> MrMustard: lol, ISPs great otherwise. and i'm in Canada, not much choice in ISPs
[05:21] <btoogood> i fixed the network probem
[05:21] <btoogood> if anyone is interested
[05:22] <abarai_renji> excuse me, its quite a dumb question, how do i use filezilla?
[05:22] <akm1> munteanu, Ubuntu  recognizes the card and loads the sky2 driver...
[05:22] <rgeorgy> hi there
[05:23] <rgeorgy> Could anybody help me with a network manager issue
[05:23] <rgeorgy> ?
[05:24] <munteanu> akm1: then what is not working?
[05:24] <btoogood> rgeorgy: whats the problem
[05:24] <rgeorgy> I used to conect to a wired network at the pase
[05:24] <rgeorgy> but after installing ubuntu, I cant connect
[05:24] <btoogood> rgeorgy: what version
[05:25] <rgeorgy> ubuntu intrepid
[05:25] <rgeorgy> 386 version
[05:25] <akm1> munteanu, but there is no Wireless Connection shown in network manager
[05:25] <btoogood> rgeorgy: i will pm you hang on
[05:26] <rgeorgy> btoogood: ok
[05:26] <osxdude> Hi all, right now, for some reason, I cannot write to anything in /proc/acpi/ibm/, with or without sudo. Without sudo, the application "beep" will not run. There is a second user who can run beep though. What's up with my computer?
[05:27] <AndyB> I was wondering if i could get some advice, I have XP on an internal drive, and ubuntu on an external drive, and grub is on the external drive and its in my mbr, so without the usb plugged in i cant boot. I plan on running fixmbr from xp disk, and using a SuperGrubDisk, but when i try to boot ubuntu from SuperGrubDisk it says Error 13 Invalid executable format?
[05:28] <kerin> Hey guys, for some reason when I try to install wine-utils it needs to (but can't install) libwine and wine-bin.  thing is, libwine IS installed.
[05:29] <shabby79> can someone please walk me through getting ubuntu going on vmserver?
[05:31] <VistaUser> HEy
[05:31] <Emphastala> i'm impressed with synaptic package manager.. this makes the rpm junk on fedora seem clumsy and dangerous
[05:31] <VistaUser> #kubuntu
[05:33] <sloopy> VistaUser, try ´/join #kubuntu´
[05:33] <VistaUser> ok
[05:33] <VistaUser> ty
[05:34] <Gerinych> hey guys, I want to format my secondary hard drive, but it has opensuse's grubloader, which is now used. how do i make ubuntu's bootloader load first when the system's starting?
[05:34] <VistaUser> can i put ubuntu on a partition and not let it harm my windows vista?
[05:34] <incepator__> yes
[05:35] <Flannel> !grub | Gerinych, first link
[05:35] <blah569> On a notebook that I have, the wireless speed is 200% faster on Windows then on Ubuntu, even if the notebook is in the same location when I am using Windows, and then Ubuntu.  Are there any types to increase the wireless speed?
[05:35] <Gerinych> flannel, ok, thanks
[05:35] <sdfsdfsfd> hello - i am using the ubuntu 8.04 live cd and the last few times ive booted into it and installed flash-plugin-nonfree it doesnt seem to work
[05:35] <sdfsdfsfd> ive been using it since it came out and it has worked fine
[05:36] <VistaUser> i want ubuntu cause i am bored haha
[05:36] <Flannel> !dualboot | VistaUser
[05:37] <VistaUser> ok ty
[05:37] <VistaUser> brb with ubuntu
[05:39] <simtower_laptop> help me, what is second best distro to ubuntu
[05:39] <sdfsdfsfd> i have used synaptic and also the add/remove dialog to install adobe flash yet when i go to tools / add ons it does not show up
[05:39] <cy> hi guys
[05:40] <ajiweoisxh> dudes my emerald is not working, compiz works fine, emerald worked recently but no longer. please help me fix this.
[05:40] <VistaUser> if i have 150 GB right now what is a good amount for ubuntu?
[05:40] <blah569> Does anyone have a link for improving wireless speed on Ubuntu?  On the same notebook with Vista, it's much faster.
[05:40] <simtower_laptop> wireless sucks in ubuntu
[05:40] <simtower_laptop> end of story
[05:40] <blah569> I prefer it over ethernet though.
[05:41] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, 50ish perhaps.
[05:41] <cy> i would like to buy a packard bell xs20 and has a via cpu with vx700 chipset but i wonder if it will run under ubuntu
[05:41] <sloopy> VistaUser, what use?
[05:41] <Konsole> simtower_laptop, agreed.
[05:41] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Although, 150 is probably best.
[05:41] <VistaUser> lol thats my whole hard drive
[05:41] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, No kidding? (:
[05:41] <blah569> Is there a Linux distrubution that's faster with wireless?
[05:41] <blah569> :P
[05:41] <dotblank> Help! My wireless adapter is conflicting with my bluetooth adapter and reducing range, how do I turn off the radio on the bluetooth adapter
[05:41] <Flannel> zhaozhou: Please be helpful
[05:41] <Flannel> VistaUser: How much free space do you currently have?
[05:42] <VistaUser> LOL only if i9 could make my drivers work wih XP
[05:42] <VistaUser> i have 150 GB
[05:42] <sloopy> VistaUser, are you also installing windows in this space?
[05:42] <VistaUser> free 200GB without vista and what not
[05:42] <Flannel> VistaUser: Oh, 150G free?  20 will be fine, 50 would be plenty.
[05:42] <abarai_renji> blah569, i think you are mistaken, i use axel to download some iso, and it worked faster than when i download with IDM in ms windows
[05:43] <zhaozhou> Flannel, ... xD
[05:43] <Flannel> VistaUser: It uses about 2G for the base install, then the rest would be for additional programs and personal data (mostly personal data)
[05:43] <VistaUser> well XP takes alot less more space cause i downgraded and i have 189 GB free with vista i have 150GB
[05:43] <blah569> Well, the pages load much slower on Ubuntu using wireless.
[05:43] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, It all comes down to where you store your personal data really.
[05:43] <VistaUser> yah true
[05:43] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Ubuntu itself, along with it's applications, does not take much space at all.
[05:43] <dotblank> Help! My wireless adapter is conflicting with my bluetooth adapter and reducing range, how do I turn off the radio on the bluetooth adapter
[05:44] <sloopy> VistaUser, on my home machine i use 20GB for each of Ubuntu, Fedora, Windows XP, windows Vista, and the rest is a formatted drive for storage
[05:44] <VistaUser> yah but i need windows so i can play my games :P lol but 50 sounds aight
[05:44] <VistaUser> sloppy how much GB do u have all together?
[05:45] <sloopy> this machine (my laptop) has 10GB for Ubuntu, and 10GB for windows xp
[05:45] <sloopy> VistaUser, used to be 120GB now its a 500GB (475GB formatted
[05:45] <zhaozhou> I have 500 gigs for my gentoo, then i have 750 GBs as an /home on an NFS and a few TBs as mounted drives.
[05:45] <VistaUser> omg
[05:46] <VistaUser> how u get 500 gb on a laptop
[05:46] <VistaUser> lol
[05:46] <^paradox^> im in need of a hand with pidgin
[05:46] <sloopy> thats on my home machine, this laptop (P3 1066Mhz/256MB ram) only has 20GB
[05:46] <sdfsdfsfd> i have used synaptic and also the add/remove dialog to install adobe flash yet when i go to tools / add ons it does not show up
[05:46] <Ohkie> i seem to be having trouble moving between desktops. I'm doing ctrl+alt+arrows but nothing happens. interestingly i dont seem to be able to edit the shortcut keys either?
[05:46] <zhaozhou> Haha, i don't. On my laptops i have either 80 or 360 gigs on root, then the mounted drives.
[05:47] <w3rd__> hey guys i have a vm running ubuntu svr, bridged ethernet, i cant seem to get the nic to pull an ip, /etc/init.d/./networking restart
[05:47] <magic_ninja> !bash
[05:47] <VistaUser> if i buy a external hard drive can i put os on it and boot into it?
[05:47] <zhaozhou> w3rd__, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:47] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, yeah.
[05:47] <sloopy> VistaUser, if you have a newer machine capable of booting from USB
[05:47] <zhaozhou> w3rd__, If your not getting an ip you could try ifconfig and dhclient.
[05:48] <VistaUser> sloppy how can i check?
[05:48] <w3rd__> right it doesnt recognize this if i dont initiate with ./ execute
[05:48] <^paradox^> pidgin wont login at all for my yahoo id
[05:48] <w3rd__> let me try dhclient
[05:48] <w3rd__> cause ifconfig doesnt even list eth0
[05:48] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, If your computer has 200 gigs of harddrivespace, your computer is new enough to boot an usb drive.
[05:48] <stickboy> having some problem with dual booting a friend's laptop. the battery gave out when he tried the first time and now we're going through again trying to go over the half job. he has xp on it. not sure if the ext3 system should be primary or logical, and if it's primary if grub would be the boot loader.
[05:48] <sdfsdfsfd> i have used synaptic and also the add/remove dialog to install adobe flash yet when i go to tools / add ons it does not show up
[05:48] <zhaozhou> w3rd__, It could be down, try ifconfig -a.
[05:48] <^paradox^> and for awhile before this happened pidgin would disconnect me after a few hours
[05:48] <VistaUser> lol ok ^^
[05:48] <^paradox^> need some help with this
[05:48] <w3rd__> dhclient just worked
[05:48] <w3rd__> ty zhaozhou
[05:48] <mib_zyh29v> i need to write simple bash script that see if /tmp/foo.log file exist.. if exist script die.., if not exist.. do: touch /tmp/foo.log.. someone can help me ?
[05:48] <sloopy> VistaUser, plug a usb memory device in (flash drive etc) and go to the boot menu for the bios and see if it lists it
[05:49] <zhaozhou> w3rd__, np.
[05:49] <sloopy> zhaozhou, uh my wifes desktop machine has 320GB and it cant boot from usb...
[05:49] <VistaUser> sloopy idk what u mean
[05:49] <zhaozhou> sloopy, True, but that's a desktop. VistaUser's 200 GB machine is a laptop. That's another story... :-)
[05:49] <cy> sloopy check the primary boot in your bios
[05:50] <sloopy> cy, its an older machine... HD has been upgraded
[05:50] <VistaUser> u know what i dont like laptops any more ur so limited
[05:50] <^paradox^> right now its just sitting saying available connecting
[05:50] <cy> ah ok.
[05:50] <mib_zyh29v> i need to write simple bash script that see if /tmp/foo.log file exist.. if exist script die.., if not exist.. do: touch /tmp/foo.log.. someone can help me ?
[05:50] <mib_zyh29v> i need to write simple bash script that see if /tmp/foo.log file exist.. if exist script die.., if not exist.. do: touch /tmp/foo.log.. someone can help me ?
[05:50] <dotblank> Anyone have really short wireless range with an atheros card?
[05:50] <sl4ck3r> t
[05:50] <dotblank> But only in ubuntu
[05:51] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Your not really that limited. You are limited in power, but not in connection or mobility.
[05:51] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, I prefer laptops over desktops.
[05:51] <VistaUser> me to but its like i cant even upgrade my hard drive anymore
[05:51] <takamarou> Anyone in here have any experience with the Brother MFC420CN printer?
[05:51] <cy> zhaozhou, how about packard bell xs20? im' just worried by its vx700 chipset
[05:52] <Ohkie> i seem to be having trouble moving between desktops. I'm doing ctrl+alt+arrows but nothing happens.
[05:52] <zhaozhou> cy, Huh?
[05:52] <jctheman> i have used synaptic and also the add/remove dialog to install adobe flash yet when i go to tools / add ons it does not show up
[05:52] <sloopy> i dont like the kb/track pad on laptops , i usually use external ones when i have to use laptop
[05:52] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, IDE drives beeing outdated?
[05:52] <VistaUser> what u mean IDE?
[05:52] <^paradox^> a hand please? ive got a few projects going and yahoo messenger service is a necessary evil
[05:52] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Nevermind. :-)
[05:53] <jctheman> taka: yes
[05:53] <VistaUser> lol
[05:53] <takamarou> jctheman, mind giving me a walkthrough on the setup?  starting to get a bit pissed :)
[05:53] <sloopy> ^paradox^, i dont use im´s irc is better...
[05:53] <Ohkie> sorry i mean workspace. I cant seem to move between workspaces?
[05:53] <cy> vistauser, ide drive (pata) or sata drive
[05:53] <VistaUser> who had Xp and Vista and ubuntu and what not on one computer
[05:53] <zhaozhou> sloopy, Use IM's via IRC then. Gotta love bitlbee. :-)
[05:53] <sloopy> VistaUser, i do
[05:53] <VistaUser> cy ooo ty how i figure that out?
[05:54] <^paradox^> sloopy: theres not much i can do at this point. the majority of contacts i have are using it
[05:54] <jctheman> taka: havent used it on linux but it should be easy with cups
[05:54] <^paradox^> ive got to get pidgin working properly again
[05:54] <takamarou> jctheman, that's what I figured.. but for some reason when I install the drivers for it, they aren't showing up.  No idea why.
[05:54] <Ohkie> anybody?
[05:55] <cy> guys, have you tried packard bell's xs20 with vx700 chipset? or any net book with vx700 chipset?
[05:55] <^paradox^> or lose half my project
[05:55] <zhaozhou> Ohkie, Which desktop manager are you using?
[05:56] <jctheman> taka: did you install c-shell?
[05:56] <jctheman> i think you need that to install the driver
[05:56] <Ohkie> zhauoz: not sure. the default that comes with ubuntu?
[05:56] <grendal_prime> ok is it me or did yahoo jack up there protocol again?
[05:56] <grendal_prime> for yahoo messenger that is
[05:56] <zhaozhou> Ohkie, Gnome. Well, i don't rememeber the menues in my head, but you have keyboard shortcuts in your settings.
[05:56] <LogicalDash> I have an Emacs Lisp file for a new major mode. How do I install it?
[05:57] <zhaozhou> Ohkie, Check them out. :-)
[05:57] <takamarou> jctheman, I did.  My problem is when i dpkg the lpr and the cups driver, the ppd file doesn't show up in /usr/share/cups/models/mfc420cn  .. I don't even have a cups/models
[05:57] <jctheman> http://www.martinhenze.de/2008/08/11/brother-printers-and-ubuntu-linux-804/
[05:57] <grendal_prime> Im just trying to im someone and well pidgin has been trying to connect to my yahoo im account for like 4 yours now.
[05:58] <^paradox^> im having trouble with yahoo as well. the messenger service at least
[05:58] <grendal_prime> the last thing i got was an apologie about how they were doing routine maint today.
[05:58] <Ohkie1> sorry zhaoz: i got knocked off the net.... didnt see any answer u gave?
[05:58] <takamarou> jctheman, thanks.. I'll give it a try again
[05:58] <zhaozhou> Never use centralized IM protocols...
[05:58] <grendal_prime> ya i think they jackafied there im protocol again...great...just another reason to use google talk.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> at least its xmmp compliant(jabber rocks!)
[05:59] <^paradox^> thats not exactly an option when some ppl only use one service
[05:59] <grendal_prime> ya no kidding
[05:59] <zhaozhou> grendal_prime, Agreed.
[06:00] <dfgas> question for you, when i used gentoo and gentoo was booting up it would give you the service name and give you like a green "started" or ok what ever, what is that so i can do it to my ubuntu install
[06:00] <grendal_prime> i have about 4 jabber servers running right now, for companys i did work for...thats how those people stay in contact with me.
[06:00] <Ohkie1> am i dead again?
[06:00] <zhaozhou> dfgas, Just turn off the bootsplash.
[06:00] <grendal_prime> and i swear you cant shut those servers down with a shotgun
[06:00] <zhaozhou> dfgas, That's the init-process.
[06:01] <^paradox^> is that whats going on here? yahoo changed something and now im sufferin for it?
[06:01] <zhaozhou> ^paradox^, Man, your nick, it's hard to tab-complete...
[06:01] <Ohkie1> I'm using compiz if that means anything zhaoz?
[06:02] <zhaozhou> Ohkie, Oh, well, yeah it does.
[06:02] <Ohkie1> heh
[06:02] <dfgas> zhaozhou, how do i enable that
[06:02] <^paradox^> zhaozhou: lol sorry
[06:02] <zhaozhou> Ohkie, In that case you'll have to get "compiz config... whatever"-application
[06:02] <dfgas> zhaozhou, i removed quiet and slash
[06:02] <grendal_prime> yep...just another example of the non opensource man trying to bring us down brother... ^paradox^ when they gonna start leaving our people alone?
[06:02] <dfgas> from menu.lst
[06:03] <zhaozhou> Anyone know what compiz config application is named?
[06:03] <zhaozhou> dfgas, That should be enough really.
[06:03] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  ccsm
[06:03] <ardchoille> zhaozhou: ccsm
[06:03] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, ardchoille, thanks.
[06:03] <^paradox^> ok so im guessing yahoo will no longer work on pidgin?
[06:03] <nimbus> Any ideas how to begin trouble shooting avi playback that freezes?
[06:03] <dfgas> zhaozhou, so it will let me know in green what is started and in red what errored?
[06:03] <jctheman> grendal: what kind of jabber setups did you deploy?
[06:03] <brokenbyzero> Anyone well versed with radeon x series cards and making them work with Ubuntu?
[06:03] <dr_willis> ^paradox^,  yahoo tends to break thin gs.. then a week later pidgin has a fix.. but ubuntu dosetn always keep up with the latest pidgin 'versions'
[06:04] <zhaozhou> dfgas, No greens or reds, but it'll tell you OK or FAIL in dull white text.
[06:04] <grendal_prime> I have to make a confession guys...i serioiusly thought ubuntu was for wusses that didnt want to learn to install debian.  But umm well this laptop came with it preinstalled so...i figured id give it a try, and last night i was dinking around with there 810 server disk.   I have to admit im loving this.
[06:04] <ardchoille> zhaozhou: mine does green and red (intrepid)
[06:04] <[kP]> anyone know what ports to open for nfs ebox server?
[06:04] <dfgas> hmmm
[06:04] <Ohkie1> egad you can dig yourself a hole pretty quick with ubuntu.
[06:04] <Ohkie1> heh
[06:04] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, O.o really? You're using upstart, right?
[06:04] <ardchoille> zhaozhou: I don't even know what upstart is
[06:05] <^paradox^> is anyone else here able to use their yahoo id through pidgin? just trying to figure out if its only me
[06:05] <dr_willis> !upstart
[06:05] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, Hrm, i'll have to google that then.
[06:05] <ardchoille> dr_willis: thanks
[06:05] <brokenbyzero> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to play any 3d games...WoW, CoD4, etc...it won't run anything 3d
[06:05] <ardchoille> zhaozhou: no idea, it's whatever came with Intrepid, I don't install anything outside the repos
[06:05] <zhaozhou> brokenbyzero, Videodrivers?
[06:06] <brokenbyzero> I'm assuming the drivers are the problem, but I followed a few guides on ubuntuforums.org and they just made my problem worse
[06:06] <^paradox^> i almost forgot
[06:06] <dr_willis> brokenbyzero,  some of those gfames can be tricky to get going properly with wine.. However wine has a rather large support forum and other guides. You need to get your 3d drivers going first... that  may beyour whole issue
[06:06] <[kP]> anyone know what ports to open for nfs ebox server?
[06:06] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, I'll have to check a changelog for this. (:
[06:06] <brokenbyzero> Yes
[06:06] <zhaozhou> brokenbyzero, What videocard do you have?
[06:06] <brokenbyzero> my glxinfo | grep rendering says YES to direct rendering
[06:06] <brokenbyzero> Radeon x800 GTO
[06:06] <jctheman> grendal_prime:: what kind of jabber setups did you deploy?
[06:06] <^paradox^> i gave instantbird a test drive yesterday and it booted me off as well. some message having to do with the protocol as well
[06:06] <mib_vc9mkg> hello
[06:06] <zhaozhou> brokenbyzero, Ah, right, well that's no issue then (i assume).
[06:07] <mib_vc9mkg> someone can help me with crontab ?
[06:07] <zhaozhou> brokenbyzero, Which version of wine do you have then?
[06:07] <brokenbyzero> It works perfect on Windows, but I can't even get it to render anything under WINE
[06:07] <mib_vc9mkg> How can i set to run one job for 1 sec ?
[06:07] <brokenbyzero> Wine 1.0
[06:07] <dr_willis> mib_vc9mkg,  you mean have a program run ONLY for a set amount of time?  or run every second?
[06:07] <zhaozhou> brokenbyzero, You should update wine.
[06:08] <dr_willis> 'perfect on windows' tells us very little. :)
[06:08] <magic_ninja> !ati
[06:08] <dr_willis> Other then you are a LUCKY windows user. :P
[06:08] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, xD
[06:08] <newbnewb> I asked here as well... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/53645
[06:08] <dr_willis> ati cards can be a bit of a hassle. :( sadly.
[06:09] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, Not newer ones.
[06:09] <dr_willis> even nvidia cards can be a bother lately
[06:09] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: hello
[06:09] <zhaozhou> mib_vc9mkg, Hi.
[06:09] <brokenbyzero> Well I've been running it on Windows for 4+ years at over 120fps.  I switch to Ubuntu and it won't run at all.  BUT, when i move my HDD over to an old p4 dell with some integrated graphics card... it renders at about 30fps.
[06:09] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: can you help me little bit ?
[06:09] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  I sure see a lot of people in here asking about them.. :)
[06:09] <^paradox^> well this is a very pretty pickle. either i use the browser based version of yahoo messenger or im screwed
[06:09] <ToXiCTeArS> hello guys
[06:09] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: can you help me little bit ? please :)
[06:09] <zhaozhou> mib_vc9mkg, I can sure try. Just ask your question. If i cant answer, someone who can hopefully will.
[06:09] <ToXiCTeArS> i have a problem with my firefox T_T
[06:09] <dr_willis> ^paradox^,  that what happened last time Yahoo 'broke' things.
[06:09] <ardchoille> My yahoo account seems to be working fine i pidgin
[06:10] <dr_willis> I dont even have a yahoo account to test any more. :()
[06:10] <ToXiCTeArS> can anyone plz help me T_T
[06:10] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: so.. i have a problem with contrab.. i edited it in this mode "1/* * * * * /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/foo.sh" but now run foo.sh only one min. i`d like run it only 1 sec.
[06:10] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, Actually, newer ati-cards have better support then nVidia have.
[06:10] <mib_vc9mkg> can you help me ?
[06:10] <^paradox^> ardchoille: did u look at it just now?
[06:11] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  or so i  'hear' but i still see lots of people with issues with ati.. but then again. I dont even know what cards are 'newer' any more.
[06:11] <ardchoille> ^paradox^: yes
[06:11] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: ?
[06:11] <zhaozhou> mib_vc9mkg, First off, i have no idea what contrab is. However, that looks like a cron-line, is'nt it?
[06:11] <carandraug> ^paradox^: I'm also having problems with pidgin and my yahoo account. No problems with the other protocols in pidgin
[06:11] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: no :(
[06:11] <dr_willis> I dont think CRON can run a job every second..
[06:11] <ToXiCTeArS> hey guys is there another browser here on ubuntu rather that firefox?
[06:11] <mib_vc9mkg> # m h  dom mon dow   command
[06:11] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, I'd say cards from the HD-series are 'newer' cards.
[06:11] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, Nope, it does not.
[06:11] <zhaozhou> mib_vc9mkg, Then i can't help you, sir. :-(
[06:11] <mib_vc9mkg> dr_willis: are you sure ?
[06:12] <ardchoille> zhaozhou:  http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/CrontabTutorial
[06:12] <dr_willis> I seem to recall that in the cron docs. it checks the list once a min.. or somthing like that.
[06:12] <mib_vc9mkg> zhaozhou: ok np :)
[06:12] <dr_willis> I cant imagaine what you need to run every sec.
[06:12] <dfgas> zhaozhou, how bout the distros that basically have graphic environment where you hit a button to see boot process and you have use of your mouse already as well? what is that
[06:12] <dr_willis> ToXiCTeArS,  i use Opera a lot
[06:12] <mib_vc9mkg> dr_willis: a bash script for monitoring
[06:12] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, Thank you.
[06:12] <dr_willis> mib_vc9mkg,  i would say make the script actually do the polling then. Not cron.
[06:12] <ardchoille> yw
[06:13] <ToXiCTeArS> dr_willis: how can i download another browser when i cant open firefox? plz help
[06:13] <declan_> Hey
[06:13] <declan_> Can someone help me install midori?
[06:13] <^paradox^> look i know this may not be a big deal to everyone, but when ur about to lose needed aspects of your project (which are private and cant be mentioned) it escalates quickly
[06:13] <abarai_renji> excuse me, in filezilla how do you fill out the host, username, and password?
[06:13] <Myrth> hi i have 8.10 live cd running on hp laptop - but doesn't recognize wifi interface
[06:14] <zhaozhou> dfgas, I have no idea which distros is specific you are talking about, but well... hitting a button to see the boot process is really quite simple. You can do that in ubuntu too, can't you? I'd say mouse is some sort of gpm-utility.
[06:14] <ToXiCTeArS> dr_willis: how can i download another browser when i cant open firefox? plz help
[06:14] <Myrth> when i go system > administration > hardware drivers - it shows that atheros is enabled
[06:14] <shad0w0fsin> Myrth: what is the model of the laptop?
[06:14] <meditatingfrog> flash performance
[06:14] <meditatingfrog> improving?
[06:14] <declan_> Can anyone help me install midori? I don't use ubuntu often and dont know how the package management system works
[06:14] <zhaozhou> ToXiCTeArS, Via your package manager.
[06:14] <stdiopt> ToXiCTeArS use wget
[06:14] <Myrth> pavilion dv6000
[06:14] <stdiopt> and ask someone a link
[06:14] <carandraug> ToXiCTeArS: why can't you open firefox? Tried from the terminal?
[06:15] <grendal_prime> jctheman: ejabberd mostly.  In most cases it is companys smaller than 50 and i mostly use it as a helpdesk type tool as im deveoloping something for them.
[06:15] <declan_> Can anyone help me install midori? I don't use ubuntu often and dont know how the package management system works
[06:15] <dr_willis> ToXiCTeArS,  theres a few alterantive browsers you could apt-get install, then go to the opera homepage.. I cant track down a direct link for opera
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info dilo
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info dillo
[06:15] <Myrth> shad0ww0fsin: pavillion dv6000
[06:15] <ardchoille> opera is in the repos, or so I thought
[06:15] <ardchoille> !opera
[06:15] <ToXiCTeArS> carandraug: i suppose to update it so i followed some instruction on a site but i guess i done something wrong
[06:16] <carandraug> declan_: you go to Add/Remove.. and search for the program. In your case, midori
[06:16] <remission> hello all...  ive been having issues installing the new nvidia legacy drivers (173.14.15)  i have installed them on a fresh ibex install and i still cant get compiz to work....is there anyone that could possibly help me?
[06:16] <zhaozhou> Opera is the best. :-) Especially v. 10.
[06:16] <shad0w0fsin> Myrth: see this: http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/howto-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-pavilion-dv2000-dv6000-dv9000-series-laptops#wireless
[06:16] <declan_> carandraug, I did...it doesn't have midori for some reason!
[06:16] <carandraug> ToXiCTeArS: remove and the reinstall it
[06:16] <ToXiCTeArS> how?
[06:16] <declan_> carandraug, could it be because I'm using xubuntu?
[06:16] <carandraug> declan_: what ubuntu version do you have? It appears in 8.10
[06:17] <grendal_prime> everytime i think i love opera, i find something critical that forces me to not use it..like on my treo phone, great browser, buuuut 3 out of 5 times i fire it up. it hangs the entire phone.
[06:17] <carandraug> declan_: I doubt it. What version do you have? There's a drop down menu. Make sure it's selected "All available applications" and then search for midori
[06:17] <declan_> Yeah one sec
[06:17] <declan_> uname -s is it?
[06:17] <ardchoille> declan_: open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a
[06:18] <declan_> Ahhhh
[06:18] <declan_> 7.10 gutsy
[06:18] <zhaozhou> grendal_prime, Haha, nice. So what's your favourite browser? Firefox?
[06:18] <declan_> That would be the problem, no?
[06:18] <ToXiCTeArS> caradraug:how can i install and reinstall firefox?
[06:18] <anthony> i have a partitioned hard drive and i wanna delete ubuntu from  HD, but ubuntu is  my default OS and grub comes up to boot ubuntu. if i delete ubuntu will my computer boot normally??? or will there be errors?
[06:18] <carandraug> declan_: let me see. I'll check the package list of 7.10
[06:18] <grendal_prime> i have a laptop that will only run 710 because of video card..sucks...but oh well the wife likes it fine( you can still brows and buy shoes with 710)
[06:19] <dekkong> !anjuta
[06:19] <zhaozhou> anthony, That depends on how you delete ubuntu.
[06:19] <declan_> carandraug, would it be hard/beneficial to change to 8.10?
[06:19] <anthony> i wanna delete it using windows
[06:19] <Myrth> shad0w0fsin: thank you! :)
[06:19] <zhaozhou> anthony, there are files on the partition that the boot process needs to boot your computer, if those gets deleted your boot process is destroyed.
[06:19] <grendal_prime> read ann landers with 710,  watch encoded harry potter films (over and over again) and read online books...all with 710
[06:20] <carandraug> ToXiCTeArS: "sudo apt-get purge firefox" and then "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[06:20] <Kelen> Hi, How to list all unavailable hardware?
[06:20] <zhaozhou> carandraug, Is'nt it sudo apt-get remove --purnge firefox?
[06:20] <newbnewb> What channel do I ask ubuntu networking questions in?
[06:20] <zhaozhou> Kelen, lspci or lshw.
[06:20] <carandraug> declan_: it should be easy but upgrades can be tricky sometimes and problems appear in some cases. You'd have to update first to 8.04.
[06:20] <zhaozhou> newbnewb, Here, or in #networking.
[06:21] <anthony> ok... so if i wanna delete ubuntu. how can i with out destroying anything?
[06:21] <dr_willis> Link to Opera -->  ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/opera/linux/962/final/en/i386/opera_9.62.2466.gcc4.qt4_i386.deb
[06:21] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, gcc4? qt4? really?
[06:21] <declan_> carandraug: this computer is older than god
[06:21] <newbnewb> What is the easiest way to configure a home network like this... DSL Modem ---> Ubuntu Desktop ---> Wireless linksys router
[06:21] <dr_willis> anthony,  if you delete the ubuntu partitiosn. you will need to use the proper windows tools. to reinstall the mbr
[06:21] <declan_> pre-millenium I think
[06:21] <Kelen> zhaozhou: yes, i know this, but it's list all available hardware's info.
[06:21] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  i noticed that also.. theres 5 differetn versions..  that just happened to be one i selected the link on... Not tried it
[06:22] <grendal_prime> zhaozhou: i wish i could get firefox on my treo...well i have to use the one that it came with but on my laptop ya i use firefox...i mean come on it works.. and you cant argue that.   I mean honestly i like the kde desktop, but this laptop came with ubuntu not kubuntu and when i installed the kubuntu desktop alot of stuff flat out was ...sketchy,  i go with what works, unless that thing that works is owned my MS.
[06:22] <dr_willis> ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/opera/linux/962/final/en/i386/opera_9.62.2466.gcc4.qt3_i386.deb
[06:22] <JohnWittle> So, I'm on an Asus EeePC HDA, and I have done everything listed under the Eee community wiki page, but
[06:22] <zhaozhou> Kelen, Hmm, what are you looking for then?
[06:22] <JohnWittle> it will not work! i cannot get wirelseas.
[06:22] <anthony> windows tools? like the original disk right?
[06:22] <JohnWittle> wireless*
[06:22] <RhysU> Quick way to check if a system supports x86_64 instruction set?  Preferably from the command line?
[06:22] <VistaUser> anyone got a HP dv6000 Laptop
[06:22] <Kelen> zhaozhou: i wanna know with one hardware is unavailable on this system..
[06:22] <carandraug> declan_: I checked. It's not in the 7.10 repositories. You'll have to compile it yourself or upgrade ubuntu
[06:22] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, Should be a qt3 gcc3 version. O.o
[06:22] <dr_willis> anthony,  yes.  You will need to restore the original windows boot loader/mbr -
[06:23] <declan_> damn it...
[06:23] <declan_> carandraug: how do I upgrade/how long would it take?
[06:23] <zhaozhou> grendal_prime, Man, i could go on forever why not to use firefox. But well, it's your choice.
[06:23] <dekkong> Hello guys! I would like to learn some c++. what kind of compilers are there for linux? I have only tried bloodshed in windows
[06:23] <carandraug> zhaozhou: you're right. It's remove --purge
[06:23] <Kelen> zhaozhou: so, Is there any idea for this require?
[06:23] <zhaozhou> Kelen, I'm not following. lshw sais which hardware is unused.
[06:23] <brokenbyzero> Well, I tried to follow that website you gave me, but the 2nd command keeps failing.
[06:24] <grendal_prime> ya declan_ i know what you mean...i damn alot of things too..its part of my religeon ...its my job for my church...i damn stuff...i curse alot too.
[06:24] <anthony> just the boot loader right? will i loose any data doing this?
[06:24] <brokenbyzero> the command was: sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko says Operation not permitted.
[06:24] <RoninBaka> Just out of interest how much space does a mirror of all ubuntu repo's take?
[06:24] <stdiopt> dekkong gcc
[06:24] <carandraug> declan_: it dependes on your connection. You'll have to upgrade to 8.04 first. In my case it took around 3-4 hours
[06:25] <dr_willis> brokenbyzero,  you are using BACKTICKS  ` ` `  not single quotes by mistake ' ' '   are you?
[06:25] <brokenbyzero> I copied that directly from the website.
[06:25] <noobie_snacks> I'm going to start using Flyback as a backup management utility with ubuntu.  That way if i install some new software update/version and it breaks my machine i can easily roll back.  however what directories would i need to backup?  Where is all the 'important' stuff similar to c:\program files on windows??  Thanks!
[06:25] <brokenbyzero> The previous command had backticks but it worked.
[06:25] <stdiopt> noobie_snacks everywhere
[06:25] <carandraug> declan_: you won't have to upgrade to 8.10. Repositories of 8.04 already have midori
[06:25] <grendal_prime> zhaozhou: well you have heard my plight..ive tried opera and i still do on occation.  The day it does everything i need..hell ill adopt it, but like i say there is always something that comes up that just flat out forces me not to use it.
[06:26] <dekkong> stdiopt: thank you
[06:26] <shad0w0fsin> noobie_snacks: yeah basically everything in / except home
[06:26] <zhaozhou> RhysU, /proc/cpuinfo should have info on this, i just can't remember what flags you should be looking for
[06:26] <stdiopt> dekkong usually on /usr
[06:26] <anthony> just the boot loader right? can i loose any data doing this?
[06:26] <grendal_prime> the locking up the phone is just a big fat nono in my book
[06:26] <core10> partoes
[06:26] <stdiopt> but root dirs are important to system so
[06:26] <ardchoille> noobie_snacks: what I do is use a live cd that has partimage on it and backup the / partition, takes me about 10 minutes, and it's easy to restore
[06:26] <stdiopt> /bin /lib etc..
[06:26] <ardchoille> !sysresccd | noobie_snacks
[06:26] <dr_willis> anthony,  if you really want to be safe   backup stuff.
[06:26] <declan_> carandraug: my connection is actually VERY fast, but the comp itself is a dinosaur
[06:26] <brokenbyzero> dr_willis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is the website that i'm following
[06:26] <declan_> how much is it dependent on processor speed/ram?
[06:26] <dr_willis> anthony,  changing the bootloader shouldent mess with the data..
[06:27] <zhaozhou> grendal_prime, Heh. Man, since first day i tried it I've never looked back.  What is the name of the package i have to install? If the name of the package is slviewer, it is still on v1.20, but the real secondlife executable provided from their site is v1.21. Will i be able to log to secondlife if i have a non-latest version?
[06:27] <VistaUser> what does reformating a drive do and will drivers installed be uninstalled?
[06:27] <core10> fghfhf
[06:27] <dr_willis> brokenbyzero,  all ive ever done with my ati cards.. is load the driver susing the restricted-drivers tool.
[06:27] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, formatting a drive means removing everything on the drive.
[06:27] <brokenbyzero> When I do that it reverts me to 800x600 resolution and disables direct rendering
[06:27] <stdiopt> dr_willis did u have any problem with compiz and overlay flickering?
[06:27] <anthony> Ok thanks i feel like a such noob   ha ha ha
[06:27] <carandraug> declan_: if it's a fast connectoin, maybe it will take less time. But backup before upgrading. Sometimes it can go awfully wrong
[06:27] <VistaUser> oooo lol
[06:28] <jim_p> VistaUser, imagine the drive as a field. in order to install (plant) something on it you need to format (plow) it first. anything on it is lost
[06:28] <remission> is there a channel i can go to to get help for the nvidia legacy drivers?
[06:28] <dr_willis> brokenbyzero,  perhaps you need to configure the monitor/res after installing the drivers.   check if the drivers are installed/working. then see what res's yopu can select in the setting tools. (and i havent messed with ati in a year+ so i dont rember much more about them)
[06:28] <core10> oooooooooooooooo
[06:28] <StevenX> can someone help me out. I am having a problem installing ubuntu from an .iso on the hard drive.
[06:28] <noobie_snacks> hmm wish they would include a utility similar to this in the package manager
[06:28] <noobie_snacks> or just the ability to roll back version numbers if an upgrade breaks pc :-/
[06:28] <noobie_snacks> perfect world right? :D
[06:28] <dekkong> stdiopt: ok :)
[06:28] <zhaozhou> jim_p, Nice one.
[06:28] <ardchoille> for the person having a problem with yahoo im, my cell phone can't even log into yahoo im right now, looks like they're having a temp problem
[06:28] <stdiopt> !anyone
[06:29] <jim_p> StevenX, with wubi?
[06:29] <carandraug> !ask | StevenX
[06:29] <stdiopt> StevenX what prob?
[06:29] <VistaUser> if i reformat and install drivers be better than using a revovery disc from HP?
[06:29] <StevenX> stdiopt:  I am using the instructions located a this url: http://deepbluespaces.blogspot.com/2008/07/install-ubuntu-804-from-hard-disk.html
[06:29] <jim_p> zhaozhou, thanks. i know this example ~15 years now. our computing teacher told it 1st time
[06:29] <declan_> Is there another thing I can do to make the comp even faster? I'm already using xubuntu
[06:29] <declan_> I'd use an even simple DE if its lighter
[06:29] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Thing is, if you reformat you'll have to use the recovery discs, you wont have an OS left on the HDD.
[06:29] <StevenX> stdiopt: I can get the installer prompt, but at a certain point, it tells me that it was unable to mount the cdrom drive.
[06:29] <dr_willis> VistaUser,  hard to tell.. the recovery disks often install lots of  Pre-isntalled-crapware from HP.. but then again. tehy may also install some utilities you need.
[06:29] <declan_> is openbox faster?
[06:30] <core10> f/m
[06:30] <ardchoille> zhaozhou: you can install a light window manager like fluxbox or openbox
[06:30] <dr_willis> declan_,   more minimal is always faster.. if you can make do without the extas
[06:30] <stdiopt> StevenX i did install my ubuntu 8.10 by iso
[06:30] <RoninBaka> whats the url for hardy packages.gz
[06:30] <mib_vc9mkg> dr_willis: are you bash monkey ?
[06:30] <zhaozhou> jim_p, I've learn't it all the hard way. There is this metal plate where you store magnetic data, and flipping... etc. etc.
[06:30] <declan_> dr_willis, I know. I'm asking what I can get rid of
[06:30] <stdiopt> u know what dev is your cdrom?
[06:30] <stdiopt> exacly.?
[06:30] <dr_willis> mib_vc9mkg,  I rarely  do much bash scripting
[06:30] <carandraug> declan_: you have fluxbox
[06:30] <VistaUser> i have the recovery discs and Vista ( trial i got from toshiba laptop)
[06:30] <StevenX> stdiopt: Yes. It is /dev/sda4.
[06:31] <declan_> carandraug, that's lighter than xfce?
[06:31] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, Where? If the disc is formatted there is nothing left?
[06:31] <jim_p> declan_, disable useless services. if possible make a server install and install xorg and whatever you wish after that. thats what i do. perfectionist to the bone!
[06:31] <dr_willis> declan_,  if you install fluxbox, you dont really need to remove xfce, you can use what parts of xfce you like
[06:31] <stdiopt> StevenX wondering why u need cdrom?
[06:31] <mib_vc9mkg> dr_willis: one question. this is my code http://rafb.net/p/rTi26F23.html i should include a loop in it (while)
[06:31] <btoogood> hi there all
[06:31] <RoninBaka> Just out of interest how much space does a mirror of all ubuntu repo's take?
[06:31] <carandraug> declan_: much lighter. But you can keep both and then decide on login
[06:31] <mib_vc9mkg> dr_willis: can you help me to apply it ?
[06:31] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, Hmm, wait. That might have been misplaced.
[06:31] <core10> fgugjfgjfgj
[06:32] <declan_> Nice, how do I get fluxbox
[06:32] <Flannel> core10: Did you have a question?
[06:32] <declan_> sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[06:32] <dr_willis> mib_vc9mkg,  i would check the ABS guide for examples that do what you want then modify them.  thats where i normally start
[06:32] <StevenX> stdiopt: what did you use in this line in the menu.lst: kernel /vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:32] <carandraug> declan_: "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" I believe
[06:32] <declan_> sexy
[06:32] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, Do know that fluxbox requires alot of configuring before it's really usable.
[06:32] <mib_vc9mkg> dr_willis: you cant help me ?
[06:32] <StevenX> stdiopt: as you can see, boot=casper might be the problem. I didn't know what to put there so I just left it.
[06:32] <stdiopt> StevenX i didn't like that
[06:32] <core10> kontollllllllll
[06:33] <ardchoille> zhaozhou: when I used fluxbox on Gutsy, the menu was the only thing really time-consuming, but that may be betternow
[06:33] <Flannel> core10: Please take offtopic chatter elsewhere, thanks.
[06:33] <jim_p> declan_, what are your pc specs? if you are on some dual core with 2gb of ram, dont expect fluxbox to make huge difference
[06:33] <stdiopt> StevenX i did an harder way, and dam and if i knew that grub boots iso :s
[06:33] <StevenX> stdiopt: lol.
[06:33] <declan_> jim_p, this machine is from...oh, 1998 I think
[06:33] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  try it and see..  deends on how you define 'useable' i guess.. it does the jobs a window-manager does...
[06:33] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, I never use any menues on *box, the keyconfig however is a pain to configure.
[06:33] <core10> sempek.........................
[06:33] <declan_> I have 192 MB ram
[06:33] <Flannel> !id | core10
[06:33] <jim_p> declan_, give it to me and i will install ANYTHING you wish. ligghtweight of course
[06:34] <Vratha> hello
[06:34] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  i normally just cuseomize the menus to include the terminal and a few apps i use.. i dont need the fkuxbox menu to show 1000000 items. :)
[06:34] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, I have, multiple times. :-)
[06:34] <stdiopt> StevenX i fdisk a drive, and unpacked a file from iso into the FS, then i changed passwd and some other files (so that i can login) setupped grub to that FS kernel, and booted
[06:34] <jim_p> declan_, then the best bet is to go server install + only necesary stuff. it uses less drive space too
[06:34] <carandraug> declan_: have you tried vector linux? I've heard it's one of the best distros to computers that old. Or debian (but debian requires more configuration)
[06:34] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, True, but still, the keybindings is the heart of *box, you _need_ those. :-D
[06:34] <jim_p> declan_, i can guide you if you want
[06:35] <declan_> carandraug, this is actually working pretty great, it's just a little slow
[06:35] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  cant say that i ever bothered eith the fluxbox keybindings
[06:35] <declan_> jim_p, what I could really use help with is finding a browser thats much lighter than FF
[06:35] <core10> id flanel
[06:35] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  for a light WM i tend to use jwm
[06:35] <declan_> Ok, I'm gonna try fluxbox, brb
[06:35] <VistaUser> is there like a disc fragmentator on ubuntu?
[06:35] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, I'm currently on wmii, love it. Everything is configured just the way i want it at start.
[06:35] <jim_p> declan_, hmmm let me think. Does opera count?
[06:35] <carandraug> declan_: try kasehaze. Not sure it's in the repos
[06:35] <Flannel> !defrag | VistaUser
[06:36] <jim_p> declan_, lynx will be useless there
[06:36] <ardchoille> VistaUser: we don't usually have to worry about defragging
[06:36] <VistaUser> ooo kk
[06:36] <Vratha> anyone trying to use the ath5k driver and hostapd on 8.10?  whenever i try to use interface=wlan0 and driver=madwifi in my hostapd.conf, i get these errors when running "hostapd -d -d -d /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf": http://pastebin.com/d363b78cd
[06:36] <StevenX> !fstab
[06:36] <VistaUser> i wish ubuntu was more compatible LOL
[06:36] <Vratha> i don't know why the madwifi driver isn't initializing :(
[06:36] <core10> gdhdhhxh
[06:36] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, compatible how?
[06:37] <VistaUser> like all my games and what not
[06:37] <jim_p> Vratha, try disabling/removing network manager
[06:37] <VistaUser> i like ubuntus low use of memory and hard drive space
[06:37] <yosyp> how do i view an ms (troff) file?
[06:37] <StevenX> what's the command I need to put into fstab if I want to mount a device (/dev/sda4) into a dir (/home), with the device being ext3.
[06:37] <Vratha> jim_p: you mean the network-manager package?
[06:37] <Flannel> VistaUser: Have you checked winehq's compatability lists?
[06:37] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, You should try damn small linux. :-D
[06:38] <grendal_prime> well im out.. i need to get some real work done...you guys...peace out seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:38] <VistaUser> yah
[06:38] <jim_p> Vratha, yea. its my most hated package ever! do you use static ips? you can also use wicd for wireless
[06:38] <zhaozhou> StevenX, /dev/sda1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0
[06:38] <VistaUser> i guess ill dual boot but i dont like how i got to reboot all the time to change
[06:38] <StevenX> zhaozhou: thanks.
[06:39] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, You could simply use virtualbox inside windows.
[06:39] <Vratha> jim_p: i'll remove it to see if it helps.  on the wireless side i use static IPs; on the wired side i use DHCP
[06:39] <dr_willis> virtualbox is handy
[06:39] <VistaUser> what u mean i can boot linux in windows?
[06:39] <jim_p> does anyone play second life? i found this http://www.byteme.org.uk/secondlife/apt-get-a-secondlife.html and i dont know 2 things yet. What is the name of the package i have to install? If the name of the package is slviewer, it is still on v1.20, but the real secondlife executable provided from their site is v1.21. Will i be able to log to secondlife if i have a non-latest version?
[06:39] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Yup, you can.
[06:40] <VistaUser> well thats no fun :P
[06:40] <jim_p> VistaUser, what he means is "use virtualization". virtualization never harmed anyone... except vista as a guest os
[06:40] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Well it's handy. :-D
[06:40] <VistaUser> lol
[06:40] <jim_p> it is! i can live without vbox zhaozhou
[06:40] <VistaUser> may i have link?
[06:40] <jim_p> virtualbox.org
[06:41] <VistaUser> can i do vice versa?
[06:41] <ardchoille> Won't qemu allow you to run a Windows OS inside Ubuntu?
[06:41] <zhaozhou> jim_p, Well I'm no windows user so i can definitely live without virtualbox.
[06:41] <jim_p> Vratha, tell me when you are done. upon removal all connections may drom
[06:41] <dr_willis> run windows, running vbox.. running linux.. running vbox. running windows....
[06:41] <zhaozhou> ardchoille, So will virtualbox.
[06:41] <jim_p> zhaozhou, what do you use for virtualization?
[06:41] <remission> hello all...  ive been having issues installing the new nvidia legacy drivers (173.14.15)  i have installed them on a fresh ibex install (plus current updates) and i still cant get compiz to work....is there anyone that could possibly help me?  what is frustrating is that 173.14.12 works fine on a fresh install but is broken after the updates.
[06:41] <ardchoille> VistaUser: there ya go
[06:42] <dr_willis> You can run either OS inside the other. :)
[06:42] <declan_> carandraug: fluxbox didn't work
[06:42] <zhaozhou> jim_p, I don't. :-)
[06:42] <Commie_Cary> dr_willis, why would you run virtualbox under virtualbox
[06:42] <dr_willis> I use vbox under windows to test out live cd's
[06:42] <declan_> Like, when I selected it under session, it loaded a screen
[06:42] <dr_willis> Commie_Cary,  because you can. :P
[06:42] <jim_p> VistaUser, yes you can do vice versa, but 3d acceleration inside virtualization is minimal to none
[06:42] <declan_> But no icons or anything
[06:42] <VistaUser> so i can be on linux and run vista? will drivers work?
[06:42] <dr_willis> declan_,  yes.. try right clicking the mouse.
[06:42] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, Haha, that would be fun really. I have to try that.
[06:42] <jim_p> declan_, thats fluxbox!
[06:42] <dr_willis> declan_,  fluxbox is a 'window manager' thats it.. :) not a desktop
[06:43] <declan_> dr_willis, jim_p...so how do I use it with xfce?
[06:43] <dr_willis> declan_,  you run whatever specidfic xfce parts you want I guess....
[06:43] <jim_p> declan_, you will need an app to draw the desktop. thunar can do it, pcmanfm can etc
[06:43] <ardchoille> declan_: fluxbox is a window manager, xfce is a desktop environment, they're different animals
[06:43] <dr_willis> declan_,  but then youa re sort of loseing the reason for using fluxbox if you run all of xfce with it.
[06:43] <dr_willis> declan_,  xfce uses 'xfwm' as its window manager
[06:44] <jim_p> VistaUser, can you please be more specific on what you want to do?
[06:44] <jim_p> does anyone play second life? i found this http://www.byteme.org.uk/secondlife/apt-get-a-secondlife.html and i dont know 2 things yet. What is the name of the package i have to install? If the name of the package is slviewer, it is still on v1.20, but the real secondlife executable provided from their site is v1.21. Will i be able to log to secondlife if i have a non-latest version?
[06:44] <Commie_Cary> dr_willis, can you run virtualbox under parallels under vmware?
[06:44] <Commie_Cary> :P
[06:44] <zhaozhou> declan_, You can get icons in fluxbox too though, i think it's called idesktop or something. You could just google it if you feel like configuring fluxbox to your needs.
[06:44] <dr_willis> Commie_Cary,  proberly can.
[06:44] <VistaUser> nvm i figured it out
[06:44] <VistaUser> lol
[06:44] <penrith> nickname pen
[06:44] <VistaUser> ty but :P
[06:44] <declan_> zhaozhou, yeah, I don't want to mess anything up
[06:44] <dekkong> hey guys! what actually does apt-get clean remove?
[06:45] <Commie_Cary> no even better!
[06:45] <declan_> linear algebra hw I guess it is
[06:45] <Flannel> dekkong: The downloaded deb files
[06:45] <jim_p> dekkong, downloaded packages left as cache
[06:45] <zhaozhou> declan_, You wont, you never will. If you mess anything up, just boot your livecd and reinstall. No damage done!
[06:45] <dekkong> jim_p: are they safe to remove ..I guess yes?
[06:45] <Commie_Cary> dr_willis, can you run virtualbox under qemu emulating x86 under qemu emulating powerpc under virtualbox under parallels under vmware?
[06:46] <jim_p> dekkong, yes if you have a fast connection and you dont mind redownloading something
[06:46] <dr_willis> Commie_Cary,  yes..   - happy?
[06:46] <ardchoille> dekkong: yes, but if you haven't installed them yet, you need to dl them again to install
[06:46] <Commie_Cary> dr_willis, yus
[06:46] <penrith> id
[06:46] <dr_willis> Commie_Cary,  ive ran   pc -> windows -> amiga emulator -> c64 emulator  :)
[06:47] <bullgard4> I have started cheops-ng. It starts and asks me for 'Agent hostname:' What do I have to put in here?
[06:47] <carandraug> declan_: I was away. What was the problem? No icons on the desktop? That's normal. That's how fluxbox works. It has no window manager. Thunar is quite good an lightweight
[06:47] <zhaozhou> carandraug, It has no desktop manager.
[06:48] <jasuus> i can schedule a shutdown alright, but is there a way to schedule the machine to "suspend"
[06:48] <jasuus> or rather...what is the way
[06:48] <core1> xdhdxfhxdh
[06:48] <jim_p> one of these days i will switch to fvwm, period :P
[06:48] <carandraug> zhaozhou: well, he quited in the mean anyway.
[06:48] <dekkong> ok thx guys .. I could not start Synaptic normally because I was out of space :)
[06:48] <zhaozhou> jasuus, You should have the suspend-command, right?
[06:48] <ardchoille> core1: Please stop that
[06:48] <penrith> hey how do u get more rooms
[06:48] <zhaozhou> carandraug, Xd
[06:49] <stdiopt> jasuus lol
[06:49] <Flannel> penrith: /join #room
[06:50] <sabayonweb_29775> can anyone help me install ubuntu on a dell xps one
[06:50] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Download CD. Burn CD. Boot CD. Install Ubuntu.
[06:50] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, :-)
[06:50] <sabayonweb_29775> i cant get livecd to boot it stops when gets to startx
[06:51] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, You should'nt have to startx, GDM starts at boot.
[06:51] <newfeats> hi.  what's the best way to incorporate GCC?
[06:51] <core1> ra rohhhhhhh
[06:51] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Could be problems with graphic driver though.
[06:51] <zhaozhou> core1, ...
[06:51] <core1> itil
[06:51] <sabayonweb_29775> i normally use sabayon and it wont boot either
[06:51] <brokenbyzero> well enabling restricted drivers all but killed my computer
[06:51] <sloopy> i have a couple machines i need to use alternate install disk in order to install
[06:51] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, I figured of your nick.
[06:52] <Ohkie> hi. how do i get rid of this damn compiz thing so i can use my multiple workspaces again?
[06:52] <jasuus> ah sudo /etc/acpi/sleepbtn.sh does the trick
[06:52] <brokenbyzero> Right now I'm suffering at under 1fps on IRC and direct rendering is off
[06:52] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, You could, however, try to install the graphicdriver you need, then startx.
[06:52] <sabayonweb_29775> they say my video card may not be supported yet
[06:52] <zhaozhou> brokenbyzero, 1fps on irc? what?
[06:52] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Which videocard do you have?
[06:52] <sabayonweb_29775> zhaozhou: how do i do that
[06:52] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, sudo apt-get install <driver>
[06:53] <brokenbyzero> Yes, each time I type a letter or somebody talks it freezes my entire screen and slowly loads everything back
[06:53] <bombshelter13_> Hi, I just updated my EEE1000 to Intrepid and now gnome seems to crash, sending me back to GDM. The Failsafe Gnome session works flawlessly, up to and including compiz working perfectly in failsafe mode. Does anyone know how I might fix this, or even how I could just make a new session based on the Failsafe but without the annoying warning dialog at log in?
[06:53] <sabayonweb_29775> zhaozhou: intel g33 something
[06:53] <system_> When installing/uninstalling using apt-get or synaptic, how clean is it? I mean, if I install 10 apps and remove 10 apps, does it leave lots of leftovers like crummy windows tends to do?
[06:54] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, That's a chipset, no video driver.
[06:54] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Oh, and i have that one too.
[06:54] <sabayonweb_29775> i cant live cd for ubuntu to boot
[06:54] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, videocard*
[06:54] <dr_willis> system_,  very few 'left overs' if any.. Note that remioving an app. does NOT remove the settings files from th users home directories
[06:55] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, If you do not have a separate videocard, you have an intel GMA, this card is fully supported by both sabayon and ubuntu.
[06:55] <sabayonweb_29775> well dell xps one a2010 is an allinond desktop
[06:55] <sabayonweb_29775> all-in-one
[06:55] <ardchoille> system_: also removing an app is not the same as purging an app, see: man apt-get
[06:55] <newfeats> how would i go about installing GCC?  is there a meta package available that installs all needed tools?
[06:55] <system_> dr_willis: Ah. Ok. On Windows (Insert version), when I try to make clean disk images, I always tried not to install and remove crap because it always leaves junk behind.
[06:55] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, XPS desktops usually does have separate videocards though...
[06:55] <ardchoille> !compile | new feats
[06:56] <zhaozhou> newfeats, build-essential
[06:56] <sabayonweb_29775> zhaozhou: not this one
[06:56] <zhaozhou> newfeats, Or just gcc.
[06:56] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, You sure?
[06:56] <Kragnerac> :)
[06:56] <sabayonweb_29775> it has intel / tv turner card
[06:56] <brokenbyzero> Fixed it.
[06:56] <sabayonweb_29775> i have lower end model
[06:56] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Is there a videocard with integrated tv tuner? Or is that separate?
[06:57] <VistaUser> i am going to go play call of duty 4
[06:57] <VistaUser> cya
[06:57] <nex3> I just updated the Ubuntu partition on my MacBook, and X is having trouble starting
[06:57] <zhaozhou> VistaUser, Nice, good luck and have fun.
[06:57] <VistaUser> ty :P
[06:57] <nex3> GDM keeps alternating between the spinning cursor and the normal cursor without displaying anything
[06:57] <sabayonweb_29775> zhaozhou: think it isnt seperate not sure
[06:57] <nex3> And when I try to use startx, it says something about NewInputDeviceRequest failing
[06:58] <budz0r_> hey guys, i have vista installed on this machine and have chopped the partition in half. if i install ubuntu on that second partitino how difficult is it to get GRUB to give me the option to load vista if i need to?
[06:58] <sabayonweb_29775> do get that driver do i boot into a console from cd the do command then startx
[06:58] <zhaozhou> budz0r_, It's impossible not to have grub give you that option if you are using the ubuntu installer.
[06:58] <jim_p> does anyone play second life? i found this http://www.byteme.org.uk/secondlife/apt-get-a-secondlife.html and i dont know 2 things yet. What is the name of the package i have to install? If the name of the package is slviewer, it is still on v1.20, but the real secondlife executable provided from their site is v1.21. Will i be able to log to secondlife if i have a non-latest version?
[06:58] <magic_ninja> wow installing ubuntu from a pen drive is like 10000000 times faster (takes 10 minutes from booting into live mode to an installed desktop)
[06:58] <nex3> Does anyone have any idea why that would happen or how I could fix it?
[06:59] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, If you figure out which driver you'll need just sudo apt-get install driver then startx, that should work.
[06:59] <sabayonweb_29775> how do i find the driver it needs
[06:59] <penrith> hey
[06:59] <zhaozhou> magic_ninja, Have you tried NXE boot on a gigabit ethernet? :-D It's amazing!
[07:00] <zhaozhou> magic_ninja, PXE, even.
[07:00] <zhaozhou> magic_ninja, That's network boot.
[07:00] <magic_ninja> zhaozhou, i know but i have no other computers so i havn't messed with it
[07:00] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Well first you figure out which videocard you have, i think lspci could help you with that.
[07:01] <sabayonweb_29775> zhaozhou: im in vista
[07:01] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, Right, can't help you then. :-P
[07:01] <magic_ninja> sabayonweb_29775, check it in vista, or from ubuntu lspci | grep vga
[07:01] <sabayonweb_29775> hold on let me boot up in sabayon live cd in console mode
[07:01] <sabayonweb_29775> brb
[07:01] <blood> hey
[07:01] <zhaozhou> blood, hey.
[07:02] <blood> is there any way u get people ips
[07:02] <veltsu> do you guys think a kernel update could help with a wlan card not working properly?
[07:02] <LPedro> veltsu it might
[07:03] <zhaozhou> blood, ips as in IP addresses?
[07:03] <LPedro> blood is there a purpose on that?
[07:03] <blood> no not here
[07:03] <veltsu> LPedro, thanks. So I'll let it hum for "2-4 hours" and check back later
[07:03] <blood>  if u want to scan the range
[07:04] <zhaozhou> blood, Range of what?
[07:04] <blood> of ips
[07:04] <LPedro> veltsu u should check for change logs or something if worth it of upgrading
[07:04] <LPedro> sometimes just changes some drivers that wont matter to u
[07:05] <budz0r_> zhaozhou, well i installed ubuntu first once, then made the partition and installed xp and couldnt get grub to show me the option
[07:05] <zhaozhou> blood, You want to scan a range of IPs to find what?
[07:05] <kyle___> hello
[07:05] <budz0r_> are you saying it will recognize that vista is installed and automatically give me the option to boot that as well as ubuntu?
[07:05] <blood> who ever sends u something
[07:05] <__kyle__> and yeah thats how a dualboot works
[07:05] <__kyle__> can anyone help me with a problem?
[07:06] <zhaozhou> budz0r_, If you install XP after Ubuntu then Microsoft is going to destroy your bootloader with this microsoft-bootloader-of-doom
[07:06] <sabayonweb_73574> ok im bout to boot to cd
[07:06] <LPedro> !ask | __kyle__
[07:06] <^paradox^> well ive tested my yahoo name on two other messengers which use jabber with no success
[07:06] <zhaozhou> budz0r_, Actually, at installpoint ubuntu will search for other OSes and write them into the bootloader-config.
[07:07] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_29775, good luck.
[07:07] <LPedro> but also u can setup the menu
[07:07] <^paradox^> it seems that im now forced to run yahoo messenger in a tab in my browser
[07:07] <^paradox^> happy happy
[07:07] <__kyle__> im having problems with getting ubutntu 8.10 to recoignise my wireless card, im on a laptop and the wireless card is plugged in via a pci slot(i think) and i have looked for drivers for the card, its an asus wl-106gm 240 mimo
[07:07] <zhaozhou> blood, If you want to see who sends you something why not just listen for packets on an interface?
[07:08] <wolfwalker> I need someone to please quietly direct me to a how-to.  I have source code for a program, I've installed build-essentials, how do I open a terminal window in a certain directory and where do I run make and makefile?
[07:08] <zhaozhou> __kyle__, Hmm, this is an PCMCIA-card, right?
[07:08] <dr_willis> !terminal | wolfwalker
[07:08] <wolfwalker> I mean make and make install
[07:08] <dr_willis> wolfwalker,   the directory where you extracted the source to.. normally an app like foo.tar.gz will make a dir called 'foo'
[07:09] <wolfwalker> Yeah
[07:09] <__kyle__> im pretty sure it is zhaoz
[07:09] <wolfwalker> I have a folder on the desktop
[07:09] <dr_willis> wolfwalker,  and you may need MUCH more then just build-essentials
[07:09] <budz0r_> zhaozhou, thanksk. that swhat i wanted to know
[07:09] <budz0r_> :)
[07:09] <wolfwalker> The program is gyachi for reference
[07:09] <dr_willis> wolfwalker,  then the path is /home/USERNAME/Desktop/Whateveritscalled
[07:10] <zhaozhou> budz0r_, Great.
[07:10] <zhaozhou> budz0r_, :-)
[07:10] <bullgard4> I have started cheops-ng. It starts and asks me for 'Agent hostname:' What do I have to put in here?
[07:10] <zhaozhou> wolfwalker, cd /home/wolfwalker/Desktop/ && tar -xvf gyachi.tar.gz && cd gyachi && make && sudo make install
[07:10] <zhaozhou> wolfwalker, :-D
[07:11] <__kyle__> ill try pull up a link zhaoz
[07:11] <zhaozhou> wolfwalker, that would only work in like godmode-scenario
[07:11] <wolfwalker> Heh
[07:11] <dr_willis> !source
[07:11] <dr_willis> !compile
[07:11] <zhaozhou> Oh! An you have apt-get build-dep!
[07:11] <zhaozhou> !build-dep
[07:12] <dr_willis> !info gyachi
[07:12] <wolfwalker> Don't exist in hardy either
[07:12] <dr_willis> zhaozhou,  that wont do much good if gyachi is not in the repos to begin with. :)
[07:12] <zhaozhou> dr_willis, True.
[07:12] <dr_willis> gyachi may be in the PPA repos if its popular
[07:12] <calc> also only works for the build-dep of the version of the package in the repo
[07:12] <wolfwalker> It's in source code.......... now what?
[07:13] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/+build/744838
[07:13] <calc> so if you are trying to build a newer version it doesn't help
[07:13] <dr_willis> wolfwalker,  you may want to check ouit the launchpad ppa repos instead of messign with source.
[07:13] <wolfwalker> Right, how do I add them?
[07:13] <dr_willis> wolfwalker,  cd to the source dir. . ./configure , and look for error emssages
[07:13] <bingungaja> guys, anyone can advise me how to change the view (picture before login page - which show loading status) -- i don't know what it called
[07:13] <budz0r_> exit
[07:13] <budz0r_> doh
[07:13] <furythor> is there any way to manually configure resolutions for X ? since in xorg.conf it states that some things are automatically configured and in that file ignored
[07:14] <LPedro> szia
[07:14] <sabayonweb_73574> zhaozhou: got ubuntu to boot i picked safe graphics mode
[07:14] <Vratha> jim_p: i brought down the NetworkManager but didn't remove it.  no effect on hostapd
[07:14] <wolfwalker> !launchpad
[07:14] <Vratha> i believe the problem with ath5k and hostapd must be something different
[07:14] <vish> Hi Guys, recently installed ubuntustudio 8.10 along with a regular ubuntu install. The problem is that my mounted drives does not show up on the desktop. The pendrives that I mount is also not visible even though they are mounted if I look in nautilus. Anyone have a solution for this? Thanks!
[07:14] <Vratha> !hostapd
[07:14] <wolfwalker> :/
[07:14] <wolfwalker> !launchpad app
[07:14] <jim_p> Vratha, give me a sec to look up
[07:14] <wolfwalker> !launchpad ppa
[07:15] <wolfwalker> Grrrr
[07:15] <B0BBY> Hello People.
[07:15] <bingungaja> guys, anyone can advise me how to change the view (picture before login page - which show loading status) -- i don't know what it called
[07:15] <bazhang> wolfwalker, /msg ubottu ppa
[07:15] <zhaozhou> furythor, Display is a subsection in the Screen section, in there you can put the Modes directive.
[07:15] <jim_p> bingungaja, its called usplash
[07:15] <B0BBY> I have a question about mail. Do all users have local mailboxes? Or should they be created?
[07:15] <Vratha> jim_p: np.  i'll keep looking as well
[07:16] <furythor> Zhaozhou you mean in xorg.conf ?
[07:16] <sabayonweb_73574> zhaozhou: i dont see my wireless card in boot though
[07:16] <zhaozhou> furythor, Yup. :-)
[07:16] <jim_p> sabayonweb_73574, is it found in lsusb/lspci ?
[07:17] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_73574, Wireless support in livecd's is not something you often see
[07:17] <bingungaja> jim_p: is it called splash screen ? i tried to change the splash screen with "splash screen manager" and download the picture from gnome-look.org, but what happened is the "usplash" screen not changed, instead, a small picture show up in my screen after my login page, can u tell me why is that please ?
[07:18] <sabayonweb_73574> zhaozhou: broadcom bcm 4328
[07:18] <zhaozhou> furythor, To clarify you'd have Section "Screen", SubSection "Display", Modes "1024x768 800x600 somethingxsomething"
[07:18] <dr_willis> bingungaja,  gnome has its own  loading-splash.. thats not related to the boot up usplash splash screen. :)
[07:18] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_73574, Ah, 43xx, the famous black sheep.
[07:18] <sabayonweb_73574> i though there was built in support in the new kernals
[07:19] <furythor> let's see if that did help, restarting now.
[07:19] <jim_p> bingungaja, the loading screen is named USPLASH and has a particular way of changing. its a terminal command and dialogs you go through. the other one is just a jpeg/bmp/png/whatever image
[07:19] <B0BBY> when my cron fails and send email which can be checked using mail -u <user> where it that mail stored. local mailbox? how does that get created?
[07:19] <mewshi_> that's a freaky issue
[07:19] <bullgard4> I have started cheops-ng. It starts and asks me for 'Agent hostname:' What do I have to put in here?
[07:19] <jim_p> bingungaja, usplash is a kernel module so it needs extra care
[07:20] <bingungaja> dr_willis: sorry i'm really confused here, i'm using ubuntu 8.10, i used ubuntu-studio theme, and it change my loading-splash, i want to change it with others, as i said i tried splash screen manager, and it doesn't work as i wished
[07:20] <zhaozhou> sabayonweb_73574, Well it's in there, but if distros chose to compile it is their own choise
[07:20] <kromium> can I prevent an application from accessing internet?
[07:21] <bingungaja> jim_p: can u help me step by step to change the loading screen ? or tell me where i can find the tutorial please
[07:21] <bullgard4> kromium: yes.
[07:21] <jim_p> bingungaja, oh... then you will have to go through          sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[07:21] <jim_p> bingungaja, give me a sec
[07:22] <bingungaja> jim_p: thx
[07:22] <kromium> bullgard4: how to do that?
[07:22] <zhaozhou> bingungaja, I'd suggest you try google "ubuntu bootsplash".
[07:22] <bazhang> !usplash
[07:22] <bullgard4> kromium: Do not start it.
[07:22] <bingungaja> zhaozhou: bootsplash and splash screen is different right ?
[07:23] <zhaozhou> bingungaja, Yes, splash screen is what appears when you've logged in via GDM/KDM
[07:23] <kromium> I want to prevent it accessing internet not prevent me from using it
[07:23] <zhaozhou> bingungaja, Bootsplash is waay before X
[07:23] <jim_p> bingungaja, yeap thats the command                 sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash                  the rest are on terminal dialog
[07:23] <kromium> I am not sure iptables can do that..
[07:24] <bingungaja> zhaozhou: ok, thought it's the same ... what about bootsplash and usplash or loading splash, is it the same ?
[07:24] <zhaozhou> kromium, Ooh, iptables, what are you trying to do?
[07:24] <bingungaja> jim_p: thx, i'll give it a try
[07:24] <jim_p> bingungaja, you are welcome
[07:25] <jim_p> bingungaja, do you get 2 "options" there?
[07:26] <kromium> zhaozhou: I have an binary in /usr/loca/bin. I don't want it to access internet
[07:26] <bingungaja> jim_p: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic
[07:26] <bingungaja>  [07:26] <zhaozhou> bingungaja, I think usplash is an application giving bootsplash.
[07:27] <jim_p> bingungaja, dont interrupt it. it stiches the module on the kernel
[07:28] <bingungaja> jim_p: nothing happened, it back to the cursors statuss
[07:28] <kromium> zhaozhou: any easier way to do it using group permissions or something?
[07:28] <vish> jim_p, I tried the usplash command but it did nothing. How do I use it to customize?
[07:28] <zhaozhou> kromium, Aah, right, no, iptables can't do that.
[07:28] <jim_p> bingungaja, well since you got no errors, end selected the ubuntu usplash, you are done. reboot to see the effects
[07:28] <zhaozhou> kromium, No, not really. PAX can do it, but that's a bit tougher.
[07:29] <zhaozhou> kromium, SELinux or alike could do it too.
[07:29] <btoogood> has anyone managed to sync a wm2003 pda with evolution?
[07:29] <zhaozhou> kromium, Also a bit tough.
[07:29] <waZ> hi
[07:29] <bingungaja> jim_p: oh ... do u mean it back to the original ubuntu usplash ?
[07:29] <kromium> zhaozhou: is SELinux installed in ubuntu by default?
[07:29] <waZ> i love ubuntu
[07:29] <jim_p> vish, in order to change the default "image" there, you will need another custom "image" placed on the right place and then run the command
[07:30] <zhaozhou> kromium, No. :-)
[07:30] <jim_p> bingungaja, i am cinfused. what did you select at the dialogs?
[07:30] <waZ> hi guys did u found any bugs on ubuntu?
[07:30] <vish> jim_p, where is the right place?
[07:30] <hotte-> what is the syntax for installing updates?
[07:30] <zhaozhou> kromium, And it's hard to install and maintain, don't try it out.
[07:30] <mewshi_> hi
[07:30] <doni> bgh
[07:31] <btoogood> hotte-: sudo apt-get update
[07:31] <btoogood> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:31] <waZ> do i need any antivirus for ubuntu?
[07:31] <jim_p> vish, in /usr/lib/usplash
[07:31] <zhaozhou> waZ, No.
[07:31] <btoogood> waZ: no
[07:31] <doni> wao..
[07:31] <waZ> very nice
[07:31] <hotte-> btoogood, merci
[07:31] <jim_p> waZ, only if you share files with some windows pc that has not
[07:31] <waZ> ok
[07:31] <bingungaja> jim_p: i just type the command u give me in the terminal, then it stated that statement, and then it's over, nothing happened --- is it mean it's already back to the original ubuntu 8.10 loading splash ?
[07:32] <bullgard4> I have started cheops-ng. It asks me for 'Agent hostname:' What do I have to put in here?
[07:32] <jim_p> bingungaja, you did not get a "choose one of the available options" menu?
[07:32] <tomcheng76> does anyone use Sun xVM VirtualBox? i have a question. not OSE version
[07:32] <bingungaja> jim_p: nah ....
[07:32] <vish> jim_p, Thanks.
[07:32] <jim_p> bingungaja, do me a favor         ls /usr/lib/usplash/
[07:32] <jim_p> vish you are welcome
[07:33] <waZ> b......g  wat is diffirent between ubuntu ver 8.04 and 8.10
[07:33] <waZ> ???
[07:33] <zhaozhou> There is one thing you quickly learn from this channel. Never try to give tips to newbies that are not foolproof. xD
[07:33] <jim_p> bingungaja, if there is ONE file in there, it selects that one, there is no "please select what you want" option
[07:33] <bingungaja> jim_p: hendri@hendri-laptop:~$ ls /usr/lib/usplash/
[07:33] <bingungaja> ubuntustudio-theme.so  usplash-artwork.so  usplash-theme-ubuntu.so
[07:33] <waZ> wat is new in ubuntu 8.10?
[07:33] <jim_p> waZ, a) kernel. newer = more hardware support. b) newer apps and so on
[07:34] <bingungaja> jim_p: hendri@hendri-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[07:34] <bingungaja> [sudo] password for hendri:
[07:34] <bingungaja> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic
[07:34] <waZ> so nice
[07:34] <jim_p> bingungaja, and you still did not get a selection dialog?
[07:34] <Vratha> jim_p: problem is that ath5k doesn't have Master mode code enabled
[07:34] <btoogood> lots give it a try, make a usb boot disk and other bits and bobs
[07:34] <bingungaja> jim_p: nop
[07:34] <macjason607> can i talk about kubuntu in here .. everyone in #kubuntu is sleep
[07:34] <Vratha> AP code is there, but a conditional check in a case statement hasn't been added yet, because the code isn't fully tested
[07:34] <jim_p> Vratha, can i pm you?
[07:34] <jim_p> bingungaja, give me a sec
[07:35] <Vratha> sure, but i think i found the issue
[07:35] <bingungaja> jim_p: ok
[07:35] <Vratha> i'm probably going to need to hack the code
[07:35] <zhaozhou> macjason607, Yes, you can. :-)
[07:35] <zhaozhou> macjason607, Essentially the same OS.
[07:35] <falieson> so I'm running apt-get and it hangs after listing all the packages...
[07:35] <BillW> I am a newbie who installed a second hard drive which was a former version of ubuntu.  When I click on the icon, I get a message saying I am not privileged to mount the volume.  Can anyone help me?
[07:35] <btoogood> anyone here use a windows pda?
[07:36] <falieson> any help?
[07:36] <macjason607> cool
[07:36] <macjason607> i just did a fresh install of kubuntu .. i have to download libdvdccs and firefox and all that good stuff correct ?
[07:36] <zhaozhou> BillW, You could start a terminal and sudo mount it, but that's not newbie-friendly.
[07:36] <zhaozhou> macjason607, Sure, or kubuntu-restricted-extras.
[07:36] <waZ> hey guys use aptoncd software it very usefull
[07:37] <jim_p> bingungaja, i made a huge mistake. the command is             sudo update-usplash-theme ubuntustudio-theme.so
[07:37] <waZ> u can take all of ur backup
[07:37] <zhaozhou> waZ, Hey mate play quake 3 it's very fun. :-D
[07:37] <bingungaja> jim_p: let me try
[07:37] <waZ> realy
[07:37] <ardchoille> macjason607: you're better off in #kubuntu
[07:37] <zhaozhou> waZ, Really.
[07:37] <waZ> hw many gb?
[07:37] <B0BBY> guys does Ubuntu install a mailserver by default. Is that why the user has a mailbox?
[07:38] <zhaozhou> macjason607, < macjason607> can i talk about kubuntu in here .. everyone in #kubuntu is sleep
[07:38] <jim_p> B0BBY, no.
[07:38] <macjason607> lol
[07:38] <zhaozhou> macjason607 -> ardchoille
[07:38] <bingungaja> jim_p: Usplash theme 'ubuntustudio-theme.so' not recognised. Installed themes:
[07:38] <bingungaja> usplash-theme-ubuntu
[07:38] <bingungaja> ubuntustudio-theme
[07:38] <zhaozhou> waZ, 0.
[07:38] <waZ> bobby hw can use my yahoo mail as a pop mail
[07:38] <mee> firefox wont save my tabs before it exits out. can anyone help ?
[07:38] <waZ> ??
[07:38] <jim_p> bingungaja, damn that .so
[07:39] <jim_p> bingungaja, sudo update-usplash-theme ubuntustudio-theme
[07:39] <B0BBY> jim_p: ok, mail shows email for my user send by cron.hourly....
[07:39] <macjason607> zhaozhou, kubuntu-extras .. does that have libdvdccs ?
[07:39] <macjason607> i just did a apt-get install for it
[07:39] <mee> waz i have a very similar name registered
[07:39] <B0BBY> jim_p: trying to understand how the mailbox is created and why. And if that means there's a mailserver installed.
[07:39] <vish> macjason607, It does not.
[07:39] <BillW> I am lost with sudo because the syntax is a problem.  the "name" of the volume is "493 GB Media".  how would that be expressed as a Mount command?
[07:39] <jim_p> macjason607, libdvd is on medibuntu
[07:39] <bazhang> macjason607, that is at medibuntu.org
[07:39] <macjason607> and that is a new source correct ?
[07:39] <zhaozhou> macjason607, Yeah, it's got dvd playback, mp3 playback, java and flash, real... well a bunch of good stuff that everyone needs.
[07:40] <waZ> windows hav ypop software so wat is 4 ubuntu?
[07:40] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | macjason607
[07:40] <bazhang> macjason607, you can just download the package, dont need the repo
[07:40] <ardchoille> macjason607: the package name is libdvdcss2
[07:40] <macjason607> thanks
[07:40] <falieson> so I'm running apt-get and it hangs after listing all the packages that it will need to be installed and upgraded? any ideas?
[07:40] <bingungaja> jim_p: is it done ? ------ hendri@hendri-laptop:~$ sudo update-usplash-theme ubuntustudio-theme
[07:40] <bingungaja> Using '/usr/lib/usplash/ubuntustudio-theme.so' to provide 'usplash-artwork.so'.
[07:40] <bingungaja> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic
[07:40] <bingungaja> hendri@hendri-laptop:~$
[07:40] <FloodBot3> bingungaja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:40] <jim_p> bingungaja, possibly yes
[07:41] <bingungaja> jim_p: THX very much, let me restart first
[07:41] <zhaozhou> bingungaja, Good luck.
[07:41] <mee> firefox wont save my tabs before it exits out. can anyone help ?
[07:41] <zhaozhou> mee, How do you close firefox?
[07:41] <jim_p> bingungaja, ok you are welcome
[07:41] <jim_p> zhaozhou, with alt+f4
[07:41] <ubuntoRoxx> Hello. I know that somewhere on my linux system i have JDK installed. I need to make eclipse make use of this JDK instead of the builtin JRE. I go to window->preferences->java->installed JREs and press Add. Then I have to specify location. But as the JDK is installed as a package i dont think there is a specific location. So how do I add it?
[07:41] <mee> zhaozhou, the little X in the top right corner
[07:41] <vish> please can someone tell me why my mounted drives dont have icons on the desktop?
[07:42] <teear> ctrl+Q
[07:42] <zhaozhou> mee, And it asks if you want to save the session, right?
[07:42] <mee> no
[07:42] <zhaozhou> mee, Oh, right.
[07:42] <jim_p> vish, there is some gnome settting. it may be disabled. want me to find it?
[07:43] <zhaozhou> jim_p, Would be meta+shift+c for me. :-D
[07:43] <vish> If you can please do. I installed ubuntustudio when it happened.
[07:43] <macjason607> # libdvdcss2
[07:43] <macjason607> # libdvdcss-dev  < -- do i install both ?
[07:43] <zhaozhou> macjason607, doubt you'll need the -dev
[07:43] <macjason607> ok
[07:44] <macjason607> another thing .. how do i make a terminal or a window open in a default size .. im tired of firefox and my terminal opening in full screen
[07:44] <mee> firefox wont save my tabs before it exits out. can anyone help ?
[07:44] <falieson> so I'm running apt-get and it hangs after listing all the packages that it will need to be installed and upgraded? any ideas?
[07:44] <jim_p> vish, Open gconf-editor and go to nautilus > dekstop > volumes_visible [v]
[07:44] <DrRobino> Hello. I know that somewhere on my linux system i have JDK installed. I need to make eclipse make use of this JDK instead of the builtin JRE. I go to window->preferences->java->installed JREs and press Add. Then I have to specify location. But as the JDK is installed as a package i dont think there is a specific location. So how do I add it?
[07:44] <LoveGuru> Is there anyone who knows about ebox? i stuck with installing some modules myself. need help with that.
[07:44] <ramenmeal> is dual booting OS X and ubuntu 8.10 tough?
[07:44] <teear> How do I start a basic DDOS-attack against a website from Xubuntu?
[07:45] <zhaozhou> teear, Heheheh.
[07:45] <falieson> lol
[07:45] <jim_p> DrRobino, give me a sec to find it. its some update-alternatives something
[07:45] <teear> :D :D
[07:45] <bullgard4> I have started cheops-ng. It asks me for 'Agent hostname:' What do I have to put in here?
[07:45] <vish> jim_p, Thanks a million.
[07:45] <zhaozhou> teear, hping2 <3
[07:45] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: ahhh youre a gem if you can locate it for me
[07:45] <jim_p> vish, did it work?
[07:45] <vish> jim_p, Yeah it did.
[07:46] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, locate what?
[07:46] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: the location of JDK :)
[07:46] <teear> Jeah
[07:47] <__kyle__> hey zhao i got it working
[07:47] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx + DrRobino, the command is              update-alternatives --config java
[07:47] <zhaozhou> __kyle__, Sweet. Did you use the windows driver?
[07:47] <__kyle__> yeah i did
[07:47] <__kyle__> ill show you the link
[07:47] <__kyle__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863591&highlight=asus+wl-106gm+240+mimo
[07:47] <ardchoille> bullgard4: you might try asking in the ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/'
[07:47] <jim_p> follow the onscreen instructions
[07:48] <__kyle__> it was really quick and easy too
[07:48] <zhaozhou> __kyle__, Using the windows driver wont give you much abilities though. You will never hack anything with that driver... :-)
[07:48] <Flannel> !nickspam > xaz
[07:48] <__kyle__> haha oh well atleast it works!
[07:48] <DrRobino> quit
[07:49] <mee> firefox wont save my tabs before it exits out. can anyone help ?
[07:50] <zhaozhou> Never seen #ubuntu so quiet before.
[07:50] <__kyle__> umm
[07:50] <vish> My friend here has a amd64 laptop. The amd64 live cd does not boot up on his laptop at all. The usplash stops at a particular point and the num lock light keeps blinking. The kernel hangs I think so. The cd has no errors. What can I do?
[07:50] <__kyle__> do you have more than one firefox window open?
[07:50] <falieson> so I'm running apt-get and it hangs after listing all the packages that it will need to be installed and upgraded? any ideas?
[07:50] <jim_p> vish, use the alternative installer cd
[07:50] <Cobalt> hi is there a way to name ext3 partitions to something meaninful so that they mount in specific, sane places, rather than disk, disk-1, disk-2 etc, which depend on the mount sequence?
[07:50] <mee> __kyle__,  no
[07:51] <__kyle__> hmm
[07:51] <zhaozhou> vish, If the num lock is blinking that's a kernel panik
[07:51] <zhaozhou> vish, Those ar baaad.
[07:51] <jim_p> falieson, can you please pastebin the output??
[07:51] <__kyle__> there should be a plugin where you can press a button to exit saving the firefox
[07:51] <__kyle__> search the firefox addons area
[07:51] <jim_p> Cobalt, their naming depends on the mounting point in fstab!
[07:51] <__kyle__> ill try find it for you
[07:51] <zhaozhou> panic*
[07:51] <mee> i shouldnt have to add a plugin
[07:52] <jim_p> Cobalt, mine are... "windows" and "large"
[07:52] <vish> I have tried that. It too does not work. But installing inside windows works. It installs but you cannot start ubuntu. Will the acpi-workarounds option in grub work?
[07:52] <__kyle__> hmm thats true
[07:52] <Cobalt> jim_p: they don't have entries in fstab, i mount them via the places menu, for removable devices.
[07:52] <mee> oh wait
[07:52] <__kyle__> do you have the download window open?
[07:52] <vish> zhaozhou, Does that mean ubuntu does not work on his laptop at all?
[07:52] <jim_p> Cobalt, you mount internal drives as removable ones?!!?!?! no wonder you get those names then
[07:52] <mee> __kyle__, one moment plz
[07:53] <falieson> so I'm running apt-get and it hangs after listing all the packages that it will need to be installed and upgraded? any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m55810a67
[07:53] <__kyle__> mee, okay
[07:53] <sabayonweb_73574> zhaozhou: will vesa havw better then 800x600 after install?
[07:53] <jim_p> vish, try the 32bit iso
[07:53] <Cobalt> jim_p: not my fault, during install, entries weren't made in fstab for those; besides, some of those, i don't want mounted all the time, anyhow - such as drives for backup. now, how do i name them?
[07:53] <vish> jim_p, I tried that too. Does not boot. I get a BusyBox Shell.
[07:53] <zhaozhou> vish, I'm sure it will. Reasons for a panic to occur is endless. I can't pinpoint the reason, but I'd first of all say try another livecd which uses a different kernel.
[07:54] <jim_p> falieson, issue a           sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:54] <vish> zhaozhou, I tried 8.04 and 8.10
[07:54] <falieson> jim_p: i attached the psatebin
[07:54] <jim_p> falieson, i know i see it
[07:54] <falieson> jim_p: I don'
[07:54] <mee> __kyle__, got it; it was a setting within firefox.
[07:54] <__kyle__> oh ok
[07:54] <__kyle__> cheer
[07:54] <__kyle__> s
[07:54] <falieson> jim_p: I don't want to upgrade, I'm worried it may kill my install
[07:54] <jim_p> Cobalt, well you can have a driver set to noauto so as it wont automount
[07:54] <mee> cheers
[07:54] <zhaozhou> vish, When booting you can press a button saying "more boot options".  Delete "quiet splash -" out of that command line and boot
[07:55] <jim_p> falieson, it wont. also try aptitude to see how it goes
[07:55] <zhaozhou> vish, WHen you do that you'll get a much more verbose boot, and it'll start telling you what goes horribly wrong.
[07:55] <jim_p> Cobalt, *a drive
[07:55] <falieson> jim_p: what does aptitude do?
[07:55] <Cobalt> jim_p: okay, but that's still not my question. forget the mounts. how do i name an ext3 partition? is it possible?
[07:55] <jim_p> falieson, its an apt alternative
[07:55] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, Yes, via udev-rules.
[07:56] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, Oh, wait, and labels.
[07:56] <jim_p> Cobalt, the names depend on the mount points. use constant mount points
[07:56] <bo1> I have a dumb question that I can't seem to find the answer in the FAQ etc. Is there an easy way to put the nick of the person you are talking to at the beginning of the line?
[07:56] <vish> Is there any way to install the 32 bit version on the 64 bit laptop? zhaozhou The verbose boot I gett by pressing ctrl-alt-funkkey too..they show a lot of internal errors.
[07:56] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: and that's possible without losing data on the said drive?
[07:56] <Flannel> bo1: type a few letters, then hit tab
[07:56] <zhaozhou> vish, Sure, just insert the 32bit cd and go.
[07:56] <LoveGuru> Flannel: Can i Change my interface name for eg eth1 to eth0 ?
[07:56] <jim_p> falieson, sudo aptitude upgade
[07:56] <Flannel> bo1: most clients will tab complete the nick for you
[07:56] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, said?
[07:57] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, oh wait
[07:57] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, Yes, sure, just label it, it'll be fine.
[07:57] <bo1> Flannel: cool!!!! thanks
[07:57] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, or udev-rule it.
[07:57] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: umm, is it possible to label the drives without losing information already stored on them?
[07:57] <vish> zhaozhou, I did but it does not boot and it shows me a busybox shell commmand line.(initramfs)
[07:57] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, Yes. :-) i think you have command named e2label or alike
[07:58] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: udev-rule seemed a little too complex for what i wanted to do. i just want to assign a sane name to the drive/partition.
[07:58] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: thanks, i'll look into that.
[07:58] <falieson> well jim_p i guess I'll trust you! :-P and will blame you and hunt you down if it breaks! I've had this install running for almost a year! haha
[07:58] <zhaozhou> vish, Which did you do?  We can't know what's happening in these scenarios.
[07:59] <ubuntoRoxx> can the packet manager open this file: jdk-6u11-linux-i586.bin
[07:59] <jim_p> falieson, is there a chance the drive is full?
[07:59] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, Well, it depends on where you want the name, really.
[07:59] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, nope.
[07:59] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: Whats wrong with the java in the repos?
[07:59] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: How do i then open it?
[07:59] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: how do you mean?
[07:59] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, If you label it you wont really be able to see the name in average days, it'll just be a label. You can look it up, but you wont see it.
[08:00] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, If you udev-rule it you have a character device to use that's correctly named, but this does not matter when it's mounted anyway.
[08:00] <vish> zhaozhou, Do you mean the 32 bit version usually installs fine on any 64 bit laptop?
[08:00] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, sudo sh java-blabla.bin or use the repo and synaptic and stay clean
[08:00] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, Lastly, you could mount it on a named point, but this will not be consistant.
[08:00] <jim_p> vish, yes!
[08:00] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: The problem is that this is only the runtime environment(JRE). I need the development environment(JDK)
[08:00] <LoveGuru> Hello Ubuntu, quick question, i just want to know that can i change/rename my interfaces for eg. eth1 to eth0? thx.
[08:01] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: JDK is in the repos too
[08:01] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, udev-rulels.
[08:01] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, udev-rules.
[08:01] <Flannel> !info sun-java6-jdk | ubuntoRoxx
[08:01] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: Is it? But where?
[08:01] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, i have this jdk package here sun-java6-jdk
[08:01] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: udev-rules ?
[08:01] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: the behaviour i was seeking was, when, for example, i mount an _ntfs_ partition, for example, it has the descriptive name i had on it before i switched to linux as the name that comes up in GNOME...
[08:01] <vish> Shoot, I'll try some other way then. thanks for all your help!
[08:01] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, Yes, I can't help you with it though, i don't know them in my head. But google them. :-)
[08:01] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: ok, but how do i then install that jdk package?
[08:02] <jim_p> lol
[08:02] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: well thx for info.
[08:02] <eweb100> Hay i cant seem to get my old vista to boot from my grub menue
[08:02] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, That's probably the label, yes.
[08:02] <eweb100> can anyone help?
[08:02] <vegombrei> i have a strange problem... firefox is stuck in full screen mode and i dont know how to fix it back to normal
[08:02] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[08:02] <Flannel> eweb100: edit your menu.lst and remove it
[08:02] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, NP. :-)
[08:02] <eweb100> HOw would that help?
[08:02] <eweb100> i want to boot vista
[08:02] <eweb100> Not remove it
[08:02] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: ah, well, anyways, thanks, i'll google a bit on it and see what that turns up.
[08:03] <vish> vegombrei, try deleting the .mozilla folder in your home directory and then restarting firefox.
[08:03] <bo1> vegombrei: did you try f11?
[08:03] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, e2label. :-)
[08:03] <LoveGuru> Is There anyone who knows how to do change/rename interfaces for eth1 to eth0? using "udev-rules."
[08:03] <jim_p> eweb100, pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:03] <eweb100> kk
[08:03] <Cobalt> zhaozhou: thanks again. :D
[08:03] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: when i do  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk it says that sun-java6-jdk is already the newest version
[08:03] <zhaozhou> Cobalt, np. :-)
[08:04] <Vinceman> wie is er hier van #ubuntu-nl?
[08:04] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, then you have the jdk installed! use a java compiler or something to utilise it
[08:04] <eweb100> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[08:04] <eweb100> # on /dev/sdb1
[08:04] <eweb100> title              Windows Vista
[08:04] <eweb100> root               (sda1,0)
[08:04] <eweb100> savedefault
[08:04] <FloodBot3> eweb100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <eweb100> makeactive
[08:05] <Adzio> Witam
[08:05] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: the thing is that i need to set up the path for this jdk in eclipse, and here it is just recognised as a JRE and not a JDK.
[08:05] <eweb100> that is just part of it
[08:05] <eweb100> the part i think matters
[08:05] <sabayonweb_73574> is compiz-fusion easy install to ubuntu
[08:06] <jim_p> eweb100, where on your drives is vista? here it says "slave disk, 1st partition"
[08:06] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, wait
[08:06] <lance_> hey all
[08:06] <zhaozhou> eweb100, That looks all wrong. My windows boot has rootnoverify, makeactive and chainloader +1.
[08:06] <lance_> does the network manager override /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:06] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: ok, thanks
[08:06] <vegombrei> bo1: yes tried F11
[08:06] <vegombrei> bo1: didnt work
[08:06] <eweb100> ya i think i might have screwed it up
[08:06] <eweb100> and i dont know where my drivers are.
[08:06] <eweb100> i would asume on the c driver?
[08:07] <eweb100> lolz
[08:07] <intangir> my mouse seems to be configured wrong, when i hit middle mouse, it seems to be clicking left and right also, is there a tool to test this?
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[08:07] <intangir> 02:06 [ cipherz       ] [ gcolley         ] [ Linuturk        ] [ Perlboy        ] [ spY|da          ] [ |_ocke          ]
[08:07] <intangir> 02:06 [ citronbleu-v__] [ Genesis^        ] [ linuxmain       ] [ peterz         ] [ ssburger        ] [ |Lucky|         ]
[08:07] <intangir> 02:06 [ ck3k          ] [ genii           ] [ lipo            ] [ pfo            ] [ ssmy_           ] [ |thunder        ]
[08:07] <FloodBot3> intangir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <intangir> 02:06 [ co_kul        ] [ George_         ] [ lips       ] [ linkslice       ] [ PensaIA      ] [ sproingie       ] [ {devil}         ]
[08:07] <intangir> 02:06 [ cipherz       ] [ gcolley         ] [ Linuturk        ] [ Perlboy        ] [ spY|da          ] [ |_ocke          ]
[08:07] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: hardluck still not luck yet :< for "udev-rules."
 Do it when firefox is NOT strted up. I had this same problem a few days back.
[08:08] <LPedro> lol
[08:08] <jim_p> eweb100, pastebin the output of                    sudo fdisk -l
[08:08] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:08] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, Look for eth*
[08:08] <intangir> my mouse seems to be configured wrong, when i hit middle mouse, it seems to be clicking left and right also, is there a tool to test this?
[08:08] <eweb100>  sudo fdisk -l
[08:08] <eweb100> ops
[08:08] <LPedro> i ate sudo
[08:09] <eweb100> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[08:09] <eweb100> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[08:09] <eweb100> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:09] <eweb100> Disk identifier: 0x5bd13321
[08:09] <eweb100>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:09] <FloodBot3> eweb100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <vegombrei> hey has anyone succeded in successfully using a bluetooth headphones with ubuntu ??
[08:09] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: so nice of ya thanks
[08:09] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: any ideas?
[08:09] <LPedro> lol
[08:09] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, NP.
[08:09] <zhaozhou> Haha, lot's of spamming going on here.
[08:09] <jim_p> ubuntoRoxx, sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[08:09] <eweb100> sorry
[08:10] <eweb100> i will use the ubuntu paster next time
[08:10] <ubuntoRoxx> jim_p: then i get: There is only 1 program which provides javac
[08:10] <ubuntoRoxx> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/javac).   I can't run glxgears.  X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation);  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX) ...  I have Intel 82945G/GZ graphics, and the xorg log says that I'm using thexserver-xorg-video-intel driver.
[08:12] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: after that reboot the system ? or just restart the adaptor?
[08:12] <oluckyman> somebody has problems with wifi and "Intel corporation PRO/wireless 3945ABG Network connection" card ?
[08:13] <cody> Can someone please suggest a good software that can rip a hard drive image? Similar to Acronis or Norton Ghost for Windows. Thanks!
 u should use nvidia driver to run glxgears
[08:13] <ardchoille> cody: PartImage
[08:14] <jim_p> oluckyman, to get it to work you need to                   sudo modprobe iwl3945      and remove network manager junk
[08:14] <Sebboh> cliffbreaker: I don't have an nvidia video card.  I have an Intel video card.
[08:14] <cody> Sebboh: Search for EnvyNG, it does a great job at installing the Nvidia drivers correctly for you
[08:14] <ardchoille> !sysresccd | cody
[08:14] <ramenmeal> can some one help me dual boot OS x and ubuntu 8.10
[08:14] <cody> ardchoille: Thanks!
[08:14] <Sebboh> cody: I don't have an nvidia video card.  I have an Intel video card.
[08:14] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: around?
[08:14] <cody> Sebboh: Ahh my bad! not sure then :)
[08:14] <Sebboh> :)
[08:14] <vegombrei> bo1: and ?? has anyone got it to work ?
[08:15] <oluckyman> jim_p: i have this driver. problem: card did't see my wi-fi network, but see others.
[08:15] <bo1> vegombrei: they seemed to be doing alright
[08:15] <zhaozhou> LoveGuru, You could restart udev, but it's easiest to restart the computer.
[08:15] <oluckyman> jim_p: my network visible only if i turn off encryption
[08:15] <eweb100> can anyone help me configure my boot manager?
[08:15] <jim_p> oluckyman, reove network manager and install wicd
[08:16] <eweb100> to work with vista
[08:16] <LoveGuru> zhaozhou: so nice 0f ya thanks :)
[08:16] <lubo> hello
[08:16] <oluckyman> jim_p: thanx-)
[08:16] <jim_p> oluckyman, wicd is on wicd.sourceforge.net. DO NOT GET THE. DEB ONLY. use the repo
[08:17] <jim_p> oluckyman, full instructions there and here (me :P)
[08:17] <bo1> eweb100: did u load vista or ubuntu first?
[08:17] <eweb100> i loaded vista
[08:17] <cody> ardchoille: PartImage looks tike it will work great! thanks again
[08:17] <bo1> eweb100: what ver of ubuntu?
[08:17] <eweb100> 8.10
[08:17] <eweb100> 64 bit
[08:17] <Python1320> Is there any way to change my namservers on resolv.conf and apply the changes without reboot or connection loss?
[08:18] <vincent__> eweb100 is vist nice?
[08:18] <vincent__> vista
[08:18] <Wyg> Hey guys, when I load up Ubuntu all I get is a garbled mess of glitchy green squares, I didn't when it was in safe graphics mode though. What could be the problem?
[08:18] <eweb100> lol i know you guys all hate it
[08:18] <Dabbu> can anyone tell me how to start using MySQL ?
[08:19] <eweb100> i just want to be able to get back on it
[08:19] <eweb100> at times
[08:19] <bo1> eweb100: I'm noob and not familiar w/ 64bit so I'm prob not who you need to talk to but..... When I loaded Ubuntu the GRUB loader did fine. What is yours doing?
[08:19] <Flannel> Dabbu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  has a section on MySQL, what to do after installing, etc.  Just ignore the Apache/php bits if they don't apply
[08:19] <kennyyu> help. i cannot connect to my windows host by smbclient. the error is given as 'operation already in proggress'..
[08:19] <eweb100> bol: it is giving me error 13 whitch is "invalid or unsoprted exucable formal
[08:20] <eweb100> format
[08:20] <kennyyu> i can ping to that windows pc but i just cannot smbclient there
[08:20] <eweb100> I also edited it to try and fix it..and i think i messed it up
[08:20] <eweb100> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81257/
[08:20] <kennyyu> and, no, i'm not using the name but i use the ip directly
[08:20] <eweb100> go there to see the config
[08:20] <lance_> if i want wicd does it work with intrepid?
[08:21] <Dabbu> Flannel: listen...when i create a table the sql promt says that no database selected..what does this mean
[08:21] <oluckyman> jim_p: ok-)
[08:21] <joe_> guys whats a good audio ripper program
[08:21] <jrgp> joe_, grip