[17:06] <rationalOgre> researcher123: I believe you need to install windows prior to installing ubuntu to make it work properly. It's been awhile since I have done a dual-boot
[17:06] <theadmin> cypha``: Err... What's the big problem with "cd blahblah && ls"?
[17:06] <jrib> cypha``: cd foo; ls
[17:06] <magicj> help with message: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display
[17:06] <arvut> kde4 is next I think. had a sneakpeak at it with a 32bit livedvd (ubuntu/kubuntu)
[17:07] <cypha``> researcher123, you need to fix the bootloader
[17:07] <Abhijit> nimbiotics, np! :-)
[17:07] <arvut> #j ubuntu-offtopic
[17:07] <Alrai> the kernel.3.0 is better than 2.6.39?
[17:07] <tucemiux> researche: that is an ugly proposition, you can try it and let mek now if it works, you will have to shrink your ubuntu partition and create an extended partition for windows, youll have to reinstall grub though
[17:07] <arvut> hmm, typo =)
[17:07] <cypha``> theadmin jrib, thanks
[17:07] <researcher123> cypha: but where can XP be installed without spoiling Ubuntu?
[17:08] <escott> vectory, yes it can make a new journal but the chances of corruption are higher if he loses the current journal. best to recover that journal if at all possible
[17:08] <sre-su> escott: The reason why I have to try fsck is that I had a hardware failure leading to abnormal shutdown. I corrected the hardware part but on boot I am getting error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> prompt. Its related to grub errors as far as I can understand but before that I'll need to to do fsck, and thus the message you see ...
[17:08] <oCean> Alrai: that's still a release-candidate version
[17:08] <sylvania> new releases are not lways better
[17:08] <cypha``> researcher123, it's just an issue with the bootloader, you can fix the bootloader and then xp will show back up
[17:08] <rationalOgre> researcher123: I stand corrected, you can put windows on after Ubuntu, but you need to repartition the drive so that the first partition is where windows will be installed.
[17:08] <researcher123> tucemiux: I appreciate if that can lead to dual boot
[17:08] <Alrai> oCean but have more hardware supports?
[17:08] <sre-su> escott: Secondly, to confirm, fdisk -l gives a partition list and the one marked with * is the one which contains *buntu, right?
[17:08] <researcher123> ok.good
[17:08] <sylvania> the first partition?
[17:09] <sipior> cypha``: you could try setting the PROMPT_COMMAND variable to /bin/ls
[17:09] <escott> sre-su, you are doing the right things so far. try vectory 's suggestion of using the -b option fsck -b in case the backup superblock is good. i don't know if there is a backup journal though
[17:09] <rationalOgre> researcher123: Then, after installing XP you will need to recover the boot loader.
[17:09] <cypha``> researcher123, i think I missed the issue, better to listen to rationalOgre instead :)
[17:09] <arvut> is it possible to disable the global menu (mac-style) and restore the menus for each window?
[17:09] <arvut> if so, how?
[17:09] <rationalOgre> researcher123: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/05/06/install-windows-after-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/
[17:09] <rationalOgre> arvut: Switch from unity?
[17:09] <oCean> Alrai: I believe there is support added for some newer hardware like sandy bridge. It might be in the next ubuntu release
[17:09] <researcher123> rationalOgre: but how to creat space to install XP?
[17:10] <rationalOgre> !classic | arvut
[17:10] <dsathe> use gparted
[17:10] <sre-su> escott: partition marked with * is the one which contains *buntu, right?
[17:10] <tucemiux> research: 1. shrink your ubuntu partition using gparted. 2. create a partition for windows. 3.  install windows 4. reinstall grub.  Caution: you can only have 4 primary partitions
[17:11] <arvut> rationalOgre: not exactly what I asked about, but yeah.. I know the classic gnome-style is there too
[17:11] <rationalOgre> researcher123: You will need to boot into the livecd and move your partitions using gparted or the Disk Utility in Ubuntu.
[17:11] <escott> sre-su, no the * means it is bootable. ubuntu doesn't care if it is bootable
[17:11] <arvut> used it yesterday
[17:11] <rationalOgre> arvut: That's really about the only way that I have heard of.
[17:11] <jtreminio> for Ubuntu, my private key should be named ~/.ssh/authorized_keys , correct?
[17:11] <arvut> what I want is menus (file, edit, view etc..) on each window, in unity.
[17:11] <oCean> jtreminio: what are you trying to do?
[17:11] <researcher123> rationalOgre: Yes I have a live USB. But will it have gparted on it?
[17:11] <sylvania> windows 4?
[17:12] <Corey> jtreminio: No.
[17:12] <Corey> jtreminio: authorized_keys should contain the public key.
[17:12] <rationalOgre> arvut: https://answers.launchpad.net/unity/+question/159796
[17:12] <arvut> and not the global menu at the top
[17:12] <jtreminio> oCean:  I'm moving from Windows 7 to Ubuntu, and I'm trying to set up my private key to connect to my ssh server.
[17:12] <Corey> jtreminio: Your private key should live in id_rsa
[17:12] <rinkukokiri> lol @ windows 4
[17:12] <rationalOgre> arvut: first result for googling "unity remove global menu"
[17:12] <rationalOgre> researcher123: yes.
[17:12] <escott> sre-su, im puzzled why it is saying fsck.ext2 maybe thats normal but it seems strange can you please !paste us the output of tune2fs -l /dev/sda3
[17:13] <oCean> jtreminio: ok, once you have created your private key pair, you can copy the pub part into the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[17:13] <jtreminio> Corey:  thanks! That solved everything!
[17:13] <researcher123> rationalOgre: thats nice.But then what happens to grub when I will install XP on the created space?
[17:13] <gnot_a_gnome> grub will be overwritten most likely
[17:14] <escott> sre-su, pasting may be hard for you. im mostly interested in the filesystem features
[17:14] <arvut> rationalOgre: that's exactly my issue, ty again. won't bother you anymore.
[17:14] <rationalOgre> researcher123: XP will wipe out grub
[17:14] <sre-su> escott: $ tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 tune2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) tune2fs: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda3 Couldn' find valid filesystem superblock.
[17:14] <rationalOgre> researcher123: So once you have XP installed, you will have to recover grub.
[17:14] <tucemiux> researche: and I'm not even sure if you can install windows on a partition that's not the first or second, let me know if it works
[17:14] <rationalOgre> researcher123: Which that link i gave you talks about doing.
[17:14] <gnot_a_gnome> you reinstall grub from linux install cd
[17:14] <researcher123> rationalOgre: Yes I know only that much.But then how to get it back in order?
[17:14] <cypha``> if I have a read-only file, how do I make it editable? or at least editable for the current vim session?
[17:15] <sre-su> escott: $ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 tune2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda3 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[17:15] <rationalOgre> researcher123: Read the link i gave several times.
[17:15] <rationalOgre> researcher123: The whole thing. It has a summation towards the bottom.
[17:15] <sylvania> you are in trouble researcher
[17:15] <mads-> I have an image of a dvd (.img) and I want to mount it. However I don't seem to able to figure out which fs it is using
[17:15] <jtreminio> oCean:  thanks to you too :)
[17:16] <researcher123> rationalOgre: is it this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?
[17:16] <oCean> jtreminio: heh, you're quite welcome
[17:16] <mads-> Is there a way I can ask the image of which fs it's using?
[17:16] <rationalOgre> researcher123: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/05/06/install-windows-after-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/
[17:16] <gnot_a_gnome> the fs on the disk?
[17:16] <bad_advice_guy> cypha``: you should be able to edit it with "sudo vim /path/to/file"
[17:16] <researcher123> sylvania: no . Im being helped by all the friends here
[17:16] <mads-> The fs of the .img file
[17:16] <theadmin> mads-: From what I know you can only really mount .ISOs, but you can convert from other formats to isos with some tool
[17:16] <theadmin> !find iso converter
[17:16] <theadmin> err...
[17:17] <rationalOgre> researcher123: If you find for whatever reason that gparted isn't available on your liveusb, just run "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[17:17] <rww> that's not what the !find command is for ;)
[17:17] <sylvania> I hope so
[17:17] <Daemon404> so er, does anyone know why font rendering when usign gdm is so much better than without gdm?
[17:17] <rationalOgre> researcher123: the liveusb is capable of installing software to it's tmpfs
[17:17] <researcher123> ok.thanks
[17:18] <escott> sre-su, just double check you have the right partition, and try fsck.ext4 -b /dev/sda3 if it keeps complaining about the journal i guess remove it. what were you doing at the time of the failure? hopefully no a system update
[17:18] <theadmin> rww: I suppose...
[17:18] <theadmin> rww: Sorry about that
[17:18] <cypha``> bad_advice_guy, didn't work
[17:18] <rationalOgre> I hope he remembers the old adage of "measure twice, cut once" before he goes and nukes his install.
[17:19] <cypha``> i'm editing .bash_aliases
[17:19] <vectory> escott: -b bruacht n argument, oder? die adresse des superblockbackups
[17:19] <bad_advice_guy> im not sure, but ou can add aliases to your .bashrc
[17:20] <cypha``> bad_advice_guy, yeah, but I thought it was preferrable to put in .bash_aliases instead of .bashrc
[17:20] <rationalOgre> cypha``: sudo chmod u+w .bash_aliases && vim .bash_aliases && sudo chmod u-w .bash_aliases
[17:21] <rafi> hi
[17:21] <cypha``> rationalOgre, it'll do the unrewrite after vim is exited?
[17:21] <cypha``> i mean un-writable
[17:21] <rationalOgre> cypha``: It should.
[17:22] <rafi> dpkg can not find db-man, anyone can help me ?
[17:22] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Remember, the shell is linear execution, it waits for each command to exit before moving to the next.
[17:22] <theadmin> rafi: Well it's man-db.
[17:22] <escott> sre-su, vectory pointed out -b needs an address the ones to try are: For  filesystems  with  1k  block‐sizes, a backup superblock can be found at block 8193; for filesystems with 2k blocksizes, at block 16384; and for 4k blocksizes, at block 32768.
[17:22] <theadmin> rafi: :P
[17:22] <cypha``> rationalOgre, any idea why "sudo vim filename.ext" works for some people, but not me?
[17:22] <dr_willis_> unless you forget and use & instead of && above.
[17:22] <cypha``> i even see it on the web as a solution
[17:22] <rafi> how can i repair this ?
[17:22] <user_> i'm trying to use /etc/fstab to auto mount by buffalo, i know this works, but i have just reinsatlled and now can't get it working. It shouldn't be this hard.  Any help please. Says special device does not exist. //<IP_ADDRESS>/data  /media/Data xfs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[17:22] <sre-su> escott: Hardware failure is of loose connections of cables from motherboard to HDD which I corrected. There was no error or update/upgrade error while using 11.04.
[17:22] <sre-su> vectory: escott: $ sudo fsck.ext4 -b /dev/sda3 Invalid non-numeric argument to -b ("/dev/sda3")
[17:23] <rafi> i can not install anything
[17:23] <dr_willis_> user_,  you are using 'xfs' for a samba share? or nfs share?
[17:23] <rafi> in xterm, synaptic doesn't work
[17:23] <vectory> sre-su: read the manual?
[17:24] <escott> sre-su, try fsck.ext4 -b 32768 /dev/sda3. if nothing works then go back to fsck.ext4 /dev/sda3 say yes and hope for the best. any files you were writing at the time of the failure may be corrupted
[17:24] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Because typically root has permission to write to a file. But if it's read-only for root then it won't have permission to.
[17:24] <user_> dr_willis_: it's a xfs file type..
[17:24] <dr_willis_> user_,  then where is the ///192.xx.xx/data comming from?
[17:24] <Loook> Hi everyone, I have a huge problem ... I am running Natty, and when I use my notebook in accu mode, for some weird reason my fan keeps shutting down, which acutally is, well call it really bad
[17:24] <rationalOgre> user_: Still fighting with it? :(
[17:24] <escott> sre-su, just double check that your have the correct partition. and if you had a spare backup drive I would recomment imaging your partition before doing anything
[17:24] <sylvania> cypha: thanks for you questions
[17:25] <Ubunut> LOL, I think I have one gangsta directory!! As a user with no suprior privallages, I can `ls` it. However, as I root, I cant; Permittion denied!!  Can someone tell me how this is originated?
[17:25] <doc-donkey> hello again ! i run a old quadcore 2.4 and under ubuntu's throttling my cores temp goes up to 57-58 degree. is that too high ?
[17:25] <cypha``> rationalOgre, aah, good explanation
[17:25] <cypha``> thanks
[17:25] <theadmin> Ubunut: Does root have +x permissions on it?
[17:25] <Loook> anyone has an idea?
[17:25] <user_> dr_willis_: it's a local network device. IP is correct and UNC is also correct including caps.
[17:25] <Bustin> I'm having a problem enabling bluetooth, im on Ubuntu 11.04 - can anyone assist me? (I'm a noob to linux) Thanks
[17:25] <escott> user_, how can you mount xfs over an ip address. dont you need nfs or somehting
[17:26] <Ubunut> theadmin: dr-x------ is what ls says
[17:26] <user_> rationalOgre: Oh yes :(
[17:26] <cypha``> rationalOgre, can I create an alias for editing root readonly files?
[17:26] <sre-su> escott: http://pastebin.com/ibJJXqvg
[17:26] <theadmin> Ubunut: Well, chmod a+x that_folder, and you will be able to ls it as root
[17:26] <alibo> Hello, I have a ubuntu 10.4 system that did not get any updates for a long time (1.5 years). Is the best way to update it do a apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and then dist upgrade?
[17:26] <Abhijit> doc-donkey, try lighter versions of ubuntu e.g. xubuntu or lubuntu
[17:26] <sre-su> escott: I guess I'm using the command on correct filesystem ..
[17:26] <p0op-> Hello,
[17:26] <sre-su> partition
[17:27] <user_> escott: you tell me? I hope you now more than I do.
[17:27] <p0op-> my box stops X seems to fail on start up
[17:27] <user_> dr_willis_: I can mount by clicking it.. Can we do that then revirse engineer that?
[17:27] <p0op-> it just stays at terminal login screen and xorg log reports there are no usable screens
[17:28] <Ubunut> theadmin: That's not my problem, I want to know how can root be denied! The only way I can think of is that I remove root permition for that dir as a root!
[17:28] <maco> Ubunut: if the partition is mounted read-only, root can't write to it
[17:28] <doc-donkey> Abhijit: so my temps are high ?
[17:28] <theadmin> Ubunut: Yes, permission can be denied for root, however that's no big deal since root can always chmod it to what she/he wants
[17:28] <rationalOgre> cypha``: You could if you wanted to. alias something='sudo chmod u+w $1 && vim $1 && chmod u-x $1'
[17:28] <Bustin> Can anyone help me configure and get bluetooth going on my laptop - I'm running ubuntu 11.04 and can't stand using this trackpad . Would love to get my BT mouse going - thanks
[17:28] <maco> Ubunut: likewise if the filesystem attributes for a file include "immutable" root can't modify the file either
[17:28] <sre-su> escott: Well, $ sudo fsck.ext4 -b 32768 /dev/sda3 gives Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8). Clear<y>?
[17:28] <rationalOgre> then you would use it like $ something filename.ext
[17:29] <dr_willis_> user_,  so its being shared by what service?    i cant recall ever seeing xfs used that way
[17:29] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Sorry it would need to be sudo vim $1
[17:29] <escott> sre-su, i think there is only one journal if thats corrupted there is no backup.
[17:29] <Ubunut> theadmin, maco: hmmm, interesting! Thanks guys. :)
[17:29] <escott> user_, the buffalo nas will export a samba or CIFS interface. i think thats what you need to connect to
[17:30] <cypha``> rationalOgre, no disclaimer about bad practice? :)
[17:30] <escott> user_, change xfs to cifs
[17:30] <dr_willis_> user_,  you are accessing it vya the network -> type address whats the url to it?  ctrl-l to show the address of the file manager once you are in a dir on the gizmo
[17:30] <sre-su> escott: What about just reinstalling grub than doing fsck?
[17:30] <cypha``> why sudo vim if it's already made writable?
[17:30] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Meh, it's probably a bad idea to edit readonly files, but I always look at it as "it's your system, muck with it as you please".
[17:30] <theadmin> dr_willis_: Oh, is that how you call the location entry in nautilus now? I remember there used to be a pencil button
[17:30] <dr_willis_> user_,  like escott  is saying.. if its a SAMBA or NFS share - i dont think you  want to use the 'xfs' filetype.
[17:30] <escott> user_, and login to the buffalo device and make sure that volume is shared. im also not certain that you have the correct path it should be //<IP_ADDRESS>/share_name/
[17:30] <dr_willis_> theadmin,  i always set mine to salwys show
[17:31] <rationalOgre> cypha``: because if the file is chowned to root then the u+w is going to give root permission to write to it, not you.
[17:31] <user_> dr_willis_: Well the format on the drive says xfs but i don't remember the setting from before. It looks like a SAMBA share
[17:31] <theadmin> dr_willis_: I use pcmanfm xD
[17:31] <escott> sre-su, that won't help if i understand what happened. sounds like grub is working but the grub.conf is on sda3 and it cant find that. so you get dumped to the minimal grub recovery shell
[17:31] <dr_willis_> user_,  if its a samab share - it dosent matter WHAT the actual drive is formated to.. your remote box sees it as a 'samba' share..
[17:31] <cypha``> rationalOgre, how I be given permission to write on it, without root?
[17:32] <sre-su> escott: Yes ..
[17:32] <Abhijit_> doc-donkey, no idea try in ##hardwre
[17:32] <dr_willis_> user_,  so you want cifs or smbfs i think to mount it that way
[17:32] <Abhijit_> ##hardware
[17:32] <dr_willis_> !smbfs
[17:32] <escott> user_, another way you can do this is to mount the samba share with nautilus and then look at the output of "mount" it should tell you what to put in fstab
[17:32] <dr_willis_> escott,  it will be putting it in .gvfs i think. using the fuse stuff. so it may not show
[17:32] <sre-su> !info smbfs
[17:33] <user_> escott: Wrong FS Type
[17:33] <user_> dr_willis_: Wrong FS Type
[17:33] <rationalOgre> cypha``: if you really wanted to change "chmod u+w $1" to "chmod o+w $1"
[17:33] <cypha``> oh, gotcha
[17:33] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Just know that if you run this command on a file that is already writable it's going to strip write permission.
[17:34] <Loook> Hello everyone .. I have the problem that my fan is stops when I use my notebook in accu mode ... how can I prevent that?
[17:34] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Oh, also change the u-w to o-w
[17:34] <dr_willis_> whats the url nautilus gives user_  somthing like smb://servername/sharename ?
[17:34] <dr_willis_> !share
[17:34] <dr_willis_> !windows
[17:34] <escott> sre-su, the only thing i worry about is the what if that partition is not actually an ext4 partition but something else, in which case allowing fsck to make changes would be bad. its evidently a linux partition and if you used the default it would be ext4
[17:34] <dr_willis_> theres some factoid on mounting windows shares permenetly
[17:34] <rationalOgre> cypha``: And it won't warn you if it is already writable.
[17:34] <sre-su> escott: I remember choosing ext4 while installtion
[17:34] <sre-su> installing*
[17:34] <escott> sre-su, that and you may have some corruption if you delete the journal but you don't seem to have much choice
[17:35] <dr_willis_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[17:35] <JohnnyonFlame> Anyone here recieved this message?
[17:35] <dr_willis_>   //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[17:35] <rationalOgre> cypha``: It's probably a "Bad Idea"(tm) to do this, but it's your system.
[17:35] <escott> sre-su, if you had a free 68gigs anywhere i would copy the disk image off
[17:35] <user_> my samba share works //<IP_ADDRESS>/Media
[17:35] <dr_willis_> user_,  you must insrtall the smbfs package also
[17:35] <Bustin> Can anyone please assist me with getting bluetooth going? I'm on ubuntu 11.04 and it's very important. Thank you.
[17:36] <oktanaya> hi
[17:36] <dr_willis_> user_,  i always use the ip - rarely if ever the servername..  unles si set up the hosts file to map name->ip
[17:36] <sre-su> escott: Yes, I remember now running fsck as root with mounted fs from recovery mode as single user boot, couldn't help.. which is what follows the errors
[17:37] <escott> sre-su, yeah don't do that. always boot the livecd/install cd and run fsck from there
[17:37] <cypha``> tm?
[17:37] <cypha``> rationalOgre, what's tm?  :)
[17:37] <user_> dr_willis_: YOU HIT IT !!!
[17:37] <escott> sre-su, if something like fsck or mount ever complains its absolutely crucial you listen to it
[17:37] <rationalOgre> cypha``: My silly little Trade Mark symbol.
[17:38] <rationalOgre> cypha``: me being silly
[17:38] <sre-su> escott: It was in recovery mode when this happened with the hardware failure, couldn't stop it!
[17:38] <user_> dr_willis_: but i have warning: Warning: mapping 'guest' to 'guest,sec=none'
[17:38] <cypha``> lol
[17:38] <escott> sre-su, you are in the livecd now right?
[17:38] <sre-su> escott: Yes
[17:38] <G00053> JohnnyonFlame: what msg ?
[17:38] <user_> dr_willis_: Warning: ignoring deprecated smbfs option 'codepage=unicode'
[17:38] <dr_willis_> i rarely use guest so no idea on tahat user_
[17:38] <escott> sre-su, you live, you learn, you get backups :)
[17:38] <JohnnyonFlame> G00053: forget, I was testing something
[17:38] <JohnnyonFlame> thanks anyways
[17:39] <dr_willis_> user_,  read that wiki page i posted.. it details  some errors.. cifs has changed stuff differntly then smbfs
[17:39]  * G00053 forget
[17:39] <dr_willis_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[17:39] <sre-su> escott: Even following this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#''grub>'' Prompt Booting won;t help?
[17:39] <cypha``> rationalOgre, it didn't work
[17:39] <cypha``> still can't edit the file
[17:40] <cypha``> sudo chmod u+w .bash_aliases && vim .bash_aliases && sudo chmod u-w .bash_aliases
[17:40] <oktanaya> hi.... I'm a new bie, I have aproblem, I have install pg admin and snort but when I install every thing Always apear  "snort can;t....
[17:40] <escott> sre-su, no because grub needs files that are on sda3
[17:40] <bluegoon> My netbook doesnt remember anything!
[17:40] <user_> dr_willis_: did you write this wiki?
[17:40] <cypha``> sudo chmod u+w .bash_aliases && sudo vim .bash_aliases && sudo chmod u-w .bash_aliases
[17:40] <dr_willis_> user_,  nope.
[17:40] <cypha``> doesn't work either
[17:40] <escott> sre-su, and grub cannot fsck your partition, its not powerful enough
[17:40] <sre-su> escott: Not even grub-install after mounting
[17:40] <sre-su> ?
[17:41] <escott> sre-su, no grub-install puts grub in the mbr outside of sda3 and points it at files inside sda3. you don't want to mess with grub-install. you need to use fsck to fix sda3
[17:41] <rationalOgre> cypha``: what's the output of ls -l .bash_aliases
[17:41] <scarleo> Natty has started crashing on me and when I finally log back in the panel with shortcuts on the left has lost all settings. It's a bit annoying, can't seee anything suspicious in the logs. Any known bugs?
[17:41] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Is this the .bash_alises in your home directory?
[17:42] <cypha``> -r--r--r-- 1 cypha cypha 14 2011-06-08 01:06 .bash_aliases
[17:42] <jbwiv> guys, for the life of me, I can't get mysql-server-5.1 to install on natty. I once had it installed, but removed it. Now, when I try to install, the apt-get fails, and in /var/log/syslog I get "ERROR: 1064  You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at line 1". I've p
[17:42] <jbwiv> removed /var/lib/mysql and /etc/mysql, and more, but I just can't seem to get the install to work. any ideas?
[17:42] <cypha``> rationalOgre, yes it is
[17:42] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Oh, then just do chmod u+w .bash_alisases
[17:42] <rationalOgre> cypha``: You should always be able to write that anyway
[17:42] <sre-su> escott: So, you suggest backing up and following on Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8). Clear<y>?  ..
[17:42] <rationalOgre> cypha``: check ls -l of it again to make sure it gave you write access
[17:42] <escott> sre-su, i think saying yes when fsck asks to remove the journal is your only option at this point. i would if possible make a backup of the disk image with dd (dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/some/file/on/some/other/drive)
[17:43] <sre-su> Alright
[17:43] <cypha``> rationalOgre, is it cuz " "sudo chmod u+w .bash_aliases && sudo vim .bash_aliases && sudo chmod u-w .bash_aliases" already changed the permissions?
[17:43] <escott> sre-su, thats all i can think to do at this point
[17:43] <user_> rationalOgre: fixed, did you see
[17:43] <escott> sre-su, the dd backup will be there in case fsck can't recover and you lose anything valuable
[17:43] <rationalOgre> user_: You got it?
[17:43] <bluegoon> By default, is Ubuntu supposed to NOT save any power settings?
[17:44] <dr_willis_> cypha``,  try it one step at a timne, not using the &&     you may be getting some error.
[17:44] <user_> rationalOgre: Dr_willis got it. had to install samba
[17:44] <rationalOgre> user_: Ah! For some reason I thought you had it installed already.
[17:44] <rationalOgre> user_: It's always the simple things.
[17:45] <rationalOgre> cypha``: just run "chmod u+w .bash_aliases"
[17:45] <rationalOgre> cypha``: You don't need sudo at this point, the file is chowned to you
[17:46] <rasf> hi buddy
[17:46] <cypha``> rationalOgre, k, i'll give this a whirl
[17:46] <dr_willis_> user_,  that would help. :)
[17:46] <rly> My Xorg uses 100% CPU and I cannot even do Control-Alt-F1 to switch to another terminal.
[17:46] <rationalOgre> escott:  dd if=/dev/sda3 conv=sync,noerror bs=64k | gzip -c > /path/to/other/partition.img.gz :)
[17:48] <escott> rationalOgre, whats the rationale behind sync?
[17:49] <sre-su> thanks vectory escott
[17:50] <rationalOgre> escott: if the partition has sectors marked bad and dd isn't able to read them it will pad the bad sectors with NULLs
[17:51] <vectory> sre-su: did you fix it?
[17:51] <sre-su> escott: How did you come to figure of 68 GB fof backup from fdisk -l
[17:51] <cypha``> rationalOgre, it's doing weird stuff
[17:51] <cypha``> like it's not letting me type in vim normally
[17:52] <rationalOgre> cypha``: ?
[17:52] <cypha``> lines disappear, and then it doesn't let me type
[17:52] <cypha``> and then it says something about a buffer error at the bottom
[17:52] <rationalOgre> cypha``: What's the exact error?
[17:52] <escott> sre-su, calculating from the number of blocks assuming 4k blocks. it might not be right. rationalOgre pointed out you should gzip it  dd if=/dev/sda3 conv=sync,noerror bs=64k | gzip -c > /path/to/other/partition.img.gz
[17:53] <rationalOgre> sre-su: Just make sure /path/to/other is a different hard drive competely
[17:53] <cypha``> rationalOgre, does vim have some key that needs to be pressed to allow editing of the file?
[17:53] <cypha``> cuz pressing "d" deletes the whole line
[17:53] <rationalOgre> cypha``: yes, i switches to input mode
[17:53] <theadmin> cypha``: Not d, dd.
[17:53] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Yes it does
[17:53] <theadmin> cypha``: Use nano if you have no idea how to use vim
[17:54] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Ahh well then just edit it with nano
[17:54] <rationalOgre> cypha``: You don't have to use vim
[17:54] <cypha``> how do I allow input?
[17:54] <rationalOgre> cypha``: hit I (you should see insert mode at the bottom)
[17:54] <cypha``> i like vim though, i don't mind learning it, seems pretty robust
[17:54] <theadmin> cypha``: Hit i and start typing
[17:54] <ikonia> cypha``: there are plenty of docs on the net if you want to learn
[17:54] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Oh it is, it's amazing, just has a steep learning curve.
[17:54] <cypha``> perfect
[17:55] <cypha``> 'I' allowed for editing
[17:55] <llutz> cypha``: start "vimtutor"
[17:55] <escott> sre-su, and that you aren't writing the output to another /dev/sdX# because that would be bad
[17:55] <Jordan_U> cypha``: run "vimtutor" for a great introduction to vim.
[17:55] <rationalOgre> cypha``: Just stay in insert mode and when you are ready to save hit ESC
[17:55] <rationalOgre> cypha``: then type :w
[17:55] <theadmin> cypha``: When you're done, hit Esc, then type :wq and hit Enter
[17:55] <rationalOgre> cypha``: <colon>w
[17:55] <cypha``> yup
[17:55] <escott> sre-su, in the live cd you would have to mount the other drive and then write it to /media/partitionname/path/to/backup/partition.img.gz
[17:55] <rationalOgre> theadmin: that's write-quit. I was just showing him how to write.
[17:56] <cypha``> rationalOgre, for some reason, the alias I created isn't working
[17:56] <theadmin> rationalOgre: Well yeah good point
[17:56] <sylvania> robust?
[17:56] <cypha``> alias pyra='python $(which pydoc) $1'
[17:57] <llutz> cypha``: you cannot use cmdline options in aliases, use functions
[17:57] <llutz> cypha``: "$1" will be expanded when creating the alias, not when calling it
[17:58] <cypha``> llutz, not sure what you mean
[17:59] <llutz> cypha``: you cannot use cmdline arguments like $1 in aliases, use functions for that
[18:00] <vectory> ofc you can use options in aliases, maybe i missubderstand
[18:00] <cypha``> how do I use functions/
[18:00] <novalis> hi2all
[18:01] <vectory> function f () { echo $1 }
[18:01] <llutz> cypha``: adding a function to ~/.bashrc like this :       function pyra() { python $(which pydoc) "$1" ;}
[18:01] <vectory> function f () { echo $1; }
[18:01] <theadmin> llutz: I think it's either function x { ... } or x() { ... }
[18:02] <theadmin> llutz: Not a weird combo of those
[18:02] <llutz> theadmin: where do you see that weird combo?
[18:02] <theadmin> llutz: You just said: function pyra()
[18:03] <theadmin> llutz: I doubt that is valid
[18:03] <Gunst> I have a problem with a netbook pc. I just installed EasyPeasy, and the vesa graphics driver is used, not the intel one. How can it be solved? Apologies for asking for help with another distro
[18:03] <Nickkkkk> Quick question.
[18:03] <Nickkkkk> What is the version of ubuntu I'm using called?
[18:03] <Nickkkkk> It's 10.10
[18:03] <KolakCC> natty? o_o
[18:04] <theadmin> Nickkkkk: Maverick
[18:04] <Nickkkkk> Like Interpid Ibex
[18:04] <bad_advice_guy> maverock meercat?
[18:04] <Nickkkkk> etc.
[18:04] <KolakCC> Don't take it from me :D
[18:04] <cypha``> theadmin, so what should I be putting instead?
[18:04] <Nickkkkk> Maverick Meercat.
[18:04] <Nickkkkk> Okay.
[18:04] <guampa> maverick meerkat
[18:04] <getjek> Nickkkk: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+10.10
[18:04] <llutz> theadmin: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/functions.html
[18:04] <getjek> ^Nickkkkk
[18:04] <cypha``> llutz, it didn't work
[18:04] <cypha``> says command not found
[18:05] <Gunst> System > About Ubuntu
[18:05] <ikonia> getjek: don't give people lmgtft that you - give them the answer or advice,
[18:05] <Loook> hi, can anyone tell me how to disable the usb autosuspend
[18:05] <Gunst> Takes ages to start tho
[18:05] <escott> cypha``, did you source .basrc after adding it
[18:05] <getjek> ikonia: what about teaching a man to fish? :)
[18:05] <cypha``> escott , no
[18:05] <ikonia> getjek: that's not teaching anything, that's just giving someone a url
[18:05] <escott> then "source .bashrc" or ". .bashrc" same thing
[18:06] <Gunst> I have a problem with a netbook pc. I just installed EasyPeasy, and the vesa graphics driver is used, not the intel one. How can it be solved? Apologies for asking for help with another distro.
[18:06] <littlebearz> getjek: if you teach them to fish then they will starve, the law here says you can't fish XD
[18:06] <escott> cypha``, probably better to say source ~/.bashrc
[18:06] <Hazamonzo> why might i not be able to find java6 when i use apt-get install ?
[18:06] <getjek> ikonia: If that's the policy here, i'm happy to abide. I just think learning to search is a great tool.
[18:06] <Nickkkkk> Bleh. my ipod is eff'd then.
[18:06] <Nickkkkk> :c
[18:06] <Nickkkkk> No chance of me fixing it.
[18:06] <ikonia> getjek: then explain how to use google/search times, rather than hand a url
[18:06] <Nickkkkk> because it's bricked.
[18:06] <ikonia> getjek: search terms sorry
[18:07] <getjek> ikonia: Search terms in GET params! but w/e, I get your point, sorry.
[18:07] <ikonia> getjek: certainly not a problem at all
[18:09] <rizzeh> Gunst: /join #easypeasy
[18:09] <cypha``> works great, thanks escott, llutz, theadmin :)
[18:09] <theadmin> cypha``: No probs
[18:10] <Gunst> rizzeh, Yeah, thanks, I did find that chan - it is silent
[18:11] <rizzeh> Gunst: just idle in there , ppl might be on other side of the globe, sleeping..
[18:11] <getjek> mouse
[18:11] <theadmin> getjek: cat
[18:11] <getjek> Woops, sorry. Trying to learn irssi. :p
[18:12] <tucemiux> getjek: try #irssi
[18:12] <getjek> tucemiux: Thanks, you can tell I'm having some issues? :)
[18:13] <jbwiv> when I try to start mysql, I get "start: Job failed to start". Where does Upstart log errors? There appears to be nothing in /var/log/mysql
[18:13] <jbwiv> and in /var/log/syslog I get init: mysql pre-start process (11575) terminated with status 1
[18:14] <slack-m> hey if running a vm, would it be bad to mount the same lvm in the host and guest at the same time?
[18:14] <escott> jbwiv, what is in the mysql prestart the script is in /etc/init/mysql....
[18:14] <yodelbob> I'm having trouble... I started getting an authentication error when trying su, and so I went into recover mode, and reset the password, hit exit, but I can't shutdown as it asks for a password as 'wisp' which puts me into my usual user self, but then I can't shutdown without a password, which fails to authenticate!
[18:14] <escott> !root | yodelbob su won't work you must sudo
[18:15] <theadmin> "there is no spoon", huh ubottu? xD
[18:15] <kermit> Is it possible to get GLX working with an ATI 6470M?
[18:15] <vectory> yodelbob: did you do sudo su?
[18:15] <jbwiv> escott: ah, cool. thanks. that'll help track it down
[18:16] <rly> escott: funny, I do use su :)
[18:16] <Loook> hi, can anyone tell me how to disable the usb autosuspend???
[18:17] <yodelbob> awesome!  thx!  everything works!
[18:18] <sylvania> really?
[18:19] <atatra> is flash here?
[18:19] <theadmin> atatra: Nah, it's at adobe.com
[18:19] <rationalOgre> Loook: do you want to disable it for all usb devices or per-device?
[18:19] <Loook> for all
[18:19] <atatra> i mean flash, the person
[18:19] <Loook> rational0gre: for all of them
[18:20] <MattyLad> Hello, can someone please help me to change the boot order for grub in 11.4 ?
[18:20] <escott> yodelbob, you may want to redisable your root password with sudo passwd -dl root
[18:20] <theadmin> atatra: There's no such nick online
[18:20] <atatra> oh, thanks
[18:20] <coz_> MattyLad,   if no one can at this time here,, try  the #grub channel
[18:20] <theadmin> atatra: /whois helps you know
[18:21] <escott> MattyLad, /etc/default/grub modify that and rerun grub-mkconfig
[18:21] <rationalOgre> Loook: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644978 Just make the autosuspend=1 line to be autosuspend=0
[18:21] <MattyLad> I'm a noob - what is /etc/default/grub and how do I get to it?
[18:22] <theadmin> MattyLad: 'tis a file, you get to it with your favorite text editor
[18:22] <cypha> ok, i'm looking retarded, what's a "shell" ?
[18:22] <rationalOgre> cypha: bash
[18:22] <vectory> terminal
[18:22] <theadmin> cypha: It's bash, dash, zsh...
[18:22] <escott> MattyLad, its a file. open a terminal and type gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[18:22] <rationalOgre> cypha: your terminal
[18:22] <vectory> console
[18:22] <maco> cypha: command line
[18:22] <Flashtek> atatra: hello
[18:22] <shicou> Hello! Can anybody help me with policykit.... I've changed the password for user butwhen I start browser or empaty policykit asks me a password
[18:22] <atatra> hi
[18:22] <Flashtek> atatra: wrong server.. ;-)
[18:22] <cypha> ok, apparently most people using python are on zsh
[18:22] <atatra> which one?
[18:23] <Flashtek> atatra: read zleap's config file ?
[18:23] <escott> MattyLad, the first option GRUB_DEFAULT is a number currently 0 you can put another entry in there and the entry in that position will become the boot default
[18:23] <vandemar> this is fun.  I'm trying to help someone in another state debug a problem setting up a ubuntu computer that was working fine before.  Now it's connected through a new comcast cable internet connection and it's connected directly to a motorola speedstream. it doesn't seem to be getting a dhcp response.  any ideas?
[18:23] <ceed^> Hi, is there a way I can get Evolution 3 in Unity? Evolution 2.32 has a bug which is fixed in 3, so it would be great to be able to upgrade.
[18:23] <jimmy51_> i've got a bash script I would like to run on startup on my custom live CD. what init script do i need to edit to have it run automatically?
[18:23] <MattyLad> I have found and am editing the file - but what do I edit now?
[18:23] <theadmin> ceed^: gnome3 and it's parts break unity.
[18:24] <jbwiv> guys, if I do a dpkg -L mysql-common, it shows it provides /etc/mysql/my.cnf. I've run the install, it says it completes fine, but there is still no /etc/mysql/my.cnf created. Any ideas what would cause this?
[18:24] <Corey> vandemar: Bounce the modem, it caches MAC addresses.
[18:24] <escott> MattyLad, then you have to run sudo grub-mkconfig which will regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg (another text file). you can verify that the correct option is the default by inspecting that file
[18:24] <MattyLad> I have tried things like http://makingtheswitch.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/changing-grub-boot-order-to-boot-windows-xp-before-ubuntu/ however the file
[18:24] <ceed^> theadmin: I guess that's a now then? :) Do you know if this will change any time soon?
[18:24] <ceed^> now=no
[18:24] <theadmin> ceed^: It doesn't have plans to change, sorry
[18:24] <llutz> MattyLad: that was grub1, doesn't work with grub2 which is in use now.
[18:24] <Loook> rational0gre: I needed -1 instead of 0 but it seems to work, thanks a lot ;-)
[18:25] <ceed^> theadmin: that means I will still have to live with the hopeless remote address book support in Evolution. Sigh..
[18:25] <escott> MattyLad, the actual boot entries are the lines beginning with menuentry. I think they are counted 0,1,2,3 but I'm not certain. you can always reboot and see if it has the default you want
[18:26] <theadmin> ceed^: How about switching to another mail client?
[18:26] <rationalOgre> Loook: Glad you got it.
[18:26] <llutz> MattyLad: if you want windows always being 1st entry in boot menu, "sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober  /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober && sudo update-grub"
[18:26] <jimmy51_> can i just name it zzzPostBootScript.sh, and run update-rc.d zzzPostBootScript.sh defaults 99 01 when i'm chrooted into my livecd build?
[18:26] <MattyLad> OK I can see GRUB_DEFAULT=0 - I have a win7 install too - I want to boot to that so will that be GRUB_DEFAULT=4 (I thinkits the 4th in the list) ?
[18:26] <rcmaehl> why is my terminal not autocompleteing with tab
[18:26] <ceed^> theadmin: use Evolution for years, i hate having to learn a new one. also, I know Evo works with our company groupware while Thunderbird for instance has problems.
[18:27] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: You should be able to, yes.
[18:27] <vandemar> Corey: as in it won't give a dhcp response to more than one mac address?
[18:27] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: Though you may want to take the .sh off the end.
[18:27] <escott> MattyLad, follow llutz with the mv command. otherwise the position of win7 will change in the future
[18:27] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: ok, thanks.  do you mean take the sh off the end of the file?
[18:27] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: Yep, both the end of the file and the update-rc.d command
[18:27] <theadmin> ceed^: I see.
[18:27] <Corey> vandemar: Not exactly, but close enough. :-)
[18:27] <MattyLad> llutz - I have done that - it did some processing - so now will it boot to win7?
[18:27] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: You don't need it as long as you have a shebang at the beginning of the file.
[18:27] <vectory> rcmaehl: depends on which term it is
[18:28] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: And make sure the executable bit is set for it.
[18:28] <vectory> more which shell
[18:28] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: i've got #1 bin/bash as the first line.  ok.. so that and chmod +x on it before i seal it up.
[18:28] <llutz> MattyLad: the boot-menu should show w7 now in 1st place. "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" to check
[18:29] <escott> MattyLad, change the GRUB_DEFAULT back to 0 rerun update-grub and then check that /etc/grub/grub.cfg has "set default 0" and the first menuitem is for windows
[18:29] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: #!/usr/bin/env bash is more portable but nomatter.
[18:29] <rcmaehl> vectory: actually it does autocomplete but not for things like apt-get
[18:29] <MattyLad> Excellent! thank you - I'll reboot and try that- Ubuntu is great but I have so much that relies on Win7 including er indoors :)
[18:29] <MattyLad> thank you all.
[18:29] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: Yeah, chmod +x it
[18:30] <vectory> rcmaehl: what do you mean? "apt-get inst" doesnt autocomplete to install?
[18:30] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: and don't forget to update-rc.d
[18:30] <rcmaehl> vectory: yeah
[18:30] <vectory> it should by default when using bash
[18:30] <rcmaehl> vectory: nope
[18:30] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: make an .img file of it and test it in vmware or qemu to be sure before burning it.
[18:30] <escott> !info bash-completion | rcmaehl make sure this is installed
[18:31] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: no space between #! and /usr/bin/env?
[18:31] <rcmaehl> bash-completion is already the newest version.
[18:31] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: I don't put one
[18:31] <sc30317>  hey all, I just bought a Z68 motherboard.  does Ubuntu have full support for this chipset yet?
[18:32] <llutz> jimmy51_: a "space" doesn't matter
[18:32] <vectory> rcmaehl: did it work before?
[18:32] <rcmaehl> vectory: before I did a clean install
[18:33] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: ok, cool.  i'm actually not burning it... i'm PXE booting it.  it's pretty slick!
[18:33] <escott> rcmaehl, put this in your .bashrc # enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable\n # this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile\n # sources /etc/bash.bashrc).\n if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] && ! shopt -oq posix; then\n  . /etc/bash_completion\n fi\n
[18:33] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: Nice.
[18:34] <LowValueTarget> any ssl/tls experts in here? :)
[18:34] <LowValueTarget> SSL_connect:error in SSLv2/v3 read server hello A
[18:34] <rcmaehl> escott: I don't have a .bashrc
[18:34] <tl1000s77> Does anyone know where the icons for the "Lock Screen" and "Log Out user" are located?
[18:35] <sc30317> rcmaehl, yes you do have a .bashrc
[18:35] <LowValueTarget> ^ Getting that when trying to connect to a TLS FTP server
[18:35] <escott> rcmaehl, you should, unless you removed it
[18:35] <huslage> what is the "blessed" cloud configuration going forward? is it Eucalyptus or OpenStack? on KVM or Xen?
[18:35] <rcmaehl> escott: http://pastebin.com/gbYY2tA0
[18:37] <escott> rcmaehl, not sure how you managed that. copy and chown the files in /etc/skel to your ~
[18:37] <getjek> ikonia: Could you please check your PMs?
[18:38] <getjek> ikonia: thanks!
[18:38] <Ampelbein> LowValueTarget: what do you get if you do "openssl s_client -connect SERVER:PORT"?
[18:39] <LowValueTarget> Ampelbein: 14551:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_clnt.c:601:
[18:41] <sylvania> welcome
[18:42] <Oak> hi, so after doing regular updates, the system cannot boot... just shows grub>
[18:42] <Oak> what happened?
[18:42] <LowValueTarget> Ampelbein: any ideas
[18:42] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: "openssl s_client -debug -connect SERVER:PORT"
[18:42] <vectory> tl1000s77: found the icons yet?
[18:43] <LowValueTarget> rationalOgre: CONNECTED(00000003)
[18:43] <LowValueTarget> 14551:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_clnt.c:601:
[18:43] <bullgard4> What is the effect of pressing the key F12 in Compiz under GNOME 2.32.1?
[18:43] <escott> !grub | Oak sounds like grub is looking in the wrong place, follow this to reinstall grub
[18:43] <vectory> bullgard4: highlight window?
[18:43] <vectory> by your description in ubuntu-de
[18:43] <RenaKunisaki> is there a command that will "flush" swap back into physical RAM, without turning it off?
[18:43] <bullgard4> vectory: I do not know. I am an absolute neophyte in Compiz.
[18:44] <vectory> a what?
[18:44] <vectory> and how is it important anyway?
[18:44] <bullgard4> vectory: I do not know. I am an absolute neophyte in Compiz.
[18:44] <RenaKunisaki> I know if I do swapoff/swapon, it'll move everything out of swap back into RAM, but that also means I have no swap for a moment
[18:44] <tl1000s77> vectory, no not yet
[18:44] <Fuchs> bullgard4: as I already stated in #ubuntu-de: probably group, but look in ccsm, it depends on the configuration
[18:44] <Ampelbein> LowValueTarget: you sure it's an ssl enabled server?
[18:44] <Fuchs> bullgard4: ccsm has a search bar, on the left
[18:45] <bullgard4> vectory: It is important for me because there seems to be a side effect of the F12 key in my setup.
[18:45] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: did you set SSLEngine on for the vhost?
[18:45] <dorka> 1996
[18:45] <escott> RenaKunisaki, if there is anything it would be in /sys or /proc but i doubt it. sounds like a strange thing to do. you could try and adjust the swapiness parameters for the kernel
[18:45] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: In apache2.conf
[18:45] <WXZ> how can I stop a specific external hdd from auto-mounting on specific users?
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> rationalOgre: its TLS enabled FTP
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> happens on two remote servers
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> dont have access to remote servers
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> just the client
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> but two unaffiliated remote servers
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> points to something on the local system
[18:46] <LowValueTarget> (client)
[18:46] <escott> WXZ, you can remove those users from plugdev and they won't be able to use any external media, or you could add entries to fstab for those devices to mount them the way you want but no other
[18:46] <bullgard4> Fuchs: Your advise "to look in ccsm" is ambiguous. What file should I look up or scutinize?
[18:47] <bullgard4> s/scutinize/scrutinize/
[18:47] <vectory> WXZ: in the /etc/fstab entry for the partition, use a group option and dont make these users part of that group
[18:47] <Fuchs> bullgard4: ccsm is not a file but an application, run it
[18:47] <WXZ> escott: so turn off automounting in GVM and fstab the rest for specific users?
[18:47] <WXZ> vectory: I really want one specific user to be able to access this drive
[18:48] <vectory> then use the user option instead of group
[18:48] <Ampelbein> LowValueTarget: can you disclose the hostnames?
[18:48] <WXZ> vectory: but would I have to turn off automounting for the other users?
[18:48] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: that error from openssl is saying that the server is not responding using SSL, which points to a config error on their end.
[18:48] <vectory> /dev/ad4s2d        /var        ufs     rw              2       2
[18:48] <vectory> oops
[18:48] <escott> WXZ, I would add an fstab entry to mount the drive with permissions only for that user. that way if someone plugs in the device it mounts to their ownership
[18:48] <rcmaehl> vectory: and whoever else helped thx
[18:48] <rcmaehl> escott: thx
[18:48] <LowValueTarget> Ampelbein: unfortunately i am not at liberty.
[18:49] <nmvictor> I want to install compiz-dev but i get the error: compiz-dev : Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libgl-dev
[18:49] <nmvictor> anyone experiencing the same problems
[18:49] <nmvictor> ?
[18:49] <vectory> the network icon doesnt show in my notification area anymore, what gives?
[18:50] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: Well, I could be wrong, but it would seem that they need to fix something on their end as their ftp daemons are not replying using SSL.
[18:50] <nmvictor> vectory: try to start nmapplet from the commandline
[18:50] <nmvictor> (terminal)
[18:50] <vectory> i did
[18:50] <vectory> nothing happened
[18:50] <Fuchs> bullgard4: especially since I already told you twice that it is probably the group plugin  (the glow effect of it): it would have taken 2 minutes of your time, instead of asking and waiting for 30 minutes as you did here.
[18:50] <vectory> nm-applet that is
[18:50] <LowValueTarget> rationalOgre: well i get the bunk response from a server it works on
[18:50] <MagicJ> I have installed a system from a known good thumbdrive - all looks good when I look at the disk EXCEPT that when I boot it just gives me a black screen - as though the boot record has not been written - this is repeatable on THAT machine
[18:50] <DimmuR> what's the default sudo password after install ubuntu?
[18:51] <vectory> nmvictor: says its already running
[18:51] <nmvictor> nm-applet, the command must have been verbose enough, what did it say?
[18:51] <WXZ> escott: but would I have to turn off automounting for all the users that I don't want to access that partition?
[18:51] <soreau> ! root | DimmuR
[18:51] <escott> !grub | MagicJ i would chroot in and reinstall grub
[18:51] <escott> WXZ, I think all you need to do is remove them from plugdev
[18:51] <vectory> nmvictor: nm-applet says an instance is already running
[18:51] <WXZ> escott: I don't want to though
[18:52] <WXZ> I want them to have all the privileges they had before, just not for THAT partition
[18:52] <vectory> WXZ, whats your current fstab line for the fs look like atm?
[18:52] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: "bunk response"?
[18:52] <nmvictor> vectory: well kill it first, pgrep nm-applet will return the PID nm-applet is running on, then use the command kill to terminate the running instance, kill <PID> , after that, try nm-applet command again
[18:52] <escott> WXZ, i think we have given you all the options we know
[18:52] <LowValueTarget> rationalOgre: the SSL connect errors from s_client
[18:53] <vectory> nmvictor: will that bring my inet connection down?
[18:53] <nmvictor> You have to risk that
[18:53] <nmvictor> I guess
[18:53] <escott> WXZ, im not sure there would be any other options. anyone with physical access to the drive (which they would have for a usb drive) can do pretty much whatever they want with it
[18:53] <vectory> k
[18:53] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: Ah.
[18:53] <nmvictor> vectory: ^^
[18:53] <vectory> i dont fear
[18:53] <WXZ> yeah, that's what I was afraid of
[18:53] <vectory> WXZ: escott: except if its encrypted
[18:54] <WXZ> vectory: yes, that's what I was thinking
[18:54] <bullgard4> Fuchs: I have opened the program »CompizConfig Einstellungs-Manager«. I cannot find any F12 hint in it.
[18:54] <WXZ> what if instead of changing the file system, I change the drive
[18:54] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: Well, s_client is a simple SSL/TLS client but you shouldn't be getting a SSL23 from it.
[18:54] <WXZ> would that work?
[18:54] <vectory> WXZ: can sdtill be reformatted
[18:54] <WXZ> well yeah, but that won't happen
[18:54] <nmvictor> I cant install compiz-dev in Natty Narwhal, anyone with the same problem and a solution?
[18:54] <Fuchs> bullgard4: look in the group plugin, since this is the most probably plugin creating such a glow you are describing
[18:54] <WXZ> just want it to be a bit harder than plug-and-playing
[18:54] <Fuchs> bullgard4: if it isn't there, use the search bar on your left.
[18:55] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: What ftp client are you using?
[18:55] <MagicJ> ubottu:  tells me to install grub instead of grub2 on the system that will not boot - how do I do this
[18:55] <LowValueTarget> rationalOgre: lftp
[18:55] <escott> WXZ, if you encrypt it with ecryptfs and put the decryption key in only one users $HOME then you should be good
[18:55] <nmvictor> I cant install compiz-dev in Natty Narwhal, anyone with the same problem and a solution?
[18:55] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: What error does it give?
[18:55] <zvacet> grub | MagicJ
[18:56] <WXZ> escott: ok, thanks, I'll try that
[18:56] <zvacet> !grub | MagicJ
[18:56] <escott> WXZ, I always find dustin kirklands blogs helpful for understanding ecryptfs
[18:56] <vectory> escott: where the point of enxrypting if you save the pw in plaintext ^^
[18:57] <escott> vectory, you wouldn't you would add the key to the keyring of the other users $HOME.
[18:57] <vectory> oh, i dont use keyring, escott
[18:57] <vectory> nvm
[18:58] <mabus44> my sound in ubuntu is not working even though speakers give sound on testing them... Can anyonne help?
[18:59] <mabus44> my sound in ubuntu is not working even though speakers give sound on testing them... Can anyonne help? ..
[18:59] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: Still there?
[18:59] <escott> mabus44, are you sure its not working at all? could it be that one particular application is not working
[19:00] <LowValueTarget> rationalOgre: yes sorry
[19:00] <mabus44> escott: I tried in multiple players... no sound
[19:00] <LowValueTarget> just hangs on login
[19:00] <LowValueTarget> verbose it hangs on ssl waiting for helo
[19:01] <mabus44> escott: Can u suggest me something to get out of this problem?
[19:02] <vectory> nmvictor: inet still works after killing nm-applet, maybe because im connected via dhclient?
[19:02] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: Meaning their server isn't responding.
[19:02] <escott> mabus44, thats very puzzling
[19:02] <garrett__> w/dinwo hide
[19:02] <jimbo> i need skype :(
[19:02] <mabus44> escott: y soo?
[19:02] <escott> mabus44, im not really sure where to begin. checking that pulseaudio is running and that the applications are configured to use it
[19:03] <Nobgul-BNC> Do you have more then 1 sound card?
[19:03] <vectory> mabus44: check that alsamixer has turned up the volume
[19:03] <bullgard4> Fuchs: In the left-hand pane I pressed »Advanced Search«. That lead to a new "Filter" pane. I entered »Gruppe«. The right-hand pane shows now Preferences > Plugin=Skalieren and Gruppe=Alle|Binding. Binings lists 3 items: »Fensterauswahl für Fenstergruppe initiieren« for the screen it is »nothing«, for »mouse« it is disabled, and for keyboard it is disabled too. How can I infer the...
[19:03] <bullgard4> ...effect of...
[19:03] <Nobgul-BNC> and or as escott, said check that the are using pulse
[19:03] <bullgard4> ...a  F12 keypress from that?
[19:03] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: You could do "lftp set -a > current.txt" and "lftp set -d" default.txt then compare them side by side to see if there's any setting that looks bad.
[19:03] <Linuxnew> hi guys can anybody help me i cant make run a script shell dont know why it should however work if i type sh name.sh or sudo sh name.sh or?
[19:03] <mabus44> vectory: escott : i tried maximising all the volumes in alsamixer.... n how do u check abt pulseaudio?
[19:04] <rationalOgre> Woops lftp set -d > default.txt
[19:04] <escott> mabus44, well thats where it is weird. you would use the same sound preferences applet that confirmed things were working.
[19:04] <escott> mabus44, open up system monitor and see if anything called pulseaudio is running
[19:04] <Linuxnew> hi guys can anybody help me i cant make run a script shell dont know why it should however work if i type sh name.sh or sudo sh name.sh or?
[19:05] <mabus44> escott: kk.. trying
[19:05] <garrett__> Linuxnew: chmod +x whatever.sh; ./whatever.sh, presuming it's in your current directory.
[19:05] <jrolland-ubuntu> I bought an Acer Aspire with a Integrated Intel HD Graphics 2000 graphics card, and now when I go install Ubuntu, after the splash screen, I have a blank screen; help?
[19:05] <ikonia> mabus44: before you run it, what is it ?
[19:05] <escott> Linuxnew, shebang #!/bin/bash on the first line. then chmod +x and ./script.sh
[19:05] <rationalOgre> LowValueTarget: sorry lftp -c set -a|-d
[19:05] <garrett__> Linuxnew: alternatively, head -n 1 whatever.sh, and then use the binary name specified there to invoke the script.
[19:05] <Linuxnew> ok thanks will try that
[19:05] <garrett__> Linuxnew: er, oh. you're trying to write a script, not run something you got. n/m
[19:06] <Thraspic> Hey guys, when I use 'acpi' I get "Battery 0: Charging, 40%, 00:46:05 until charged".  Can I use grep to ONLY have the "40" appear and nothing else, including the percentage symbol?
[19:06] <Linuxnew> no trying to make it run didnt write it :)
[19:06] <mabus44> ikonia: escott :pulseaudio is running in status sleeping
[19:06] <misja> Guys I tried to install Osu! (a beat game that requires Microsoft .NET) I installed .NET but if I start Osu! I get a window with that it dont work
[19:06] <jrolland-ubuntu> Is there anything I can do to get my graphics card to work with the installer?
[19:06] <ikonia> misja: are you using wine ?
[19:06] <misja> yes
[19:07] <misja> I tried with wine
[19:07] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  which card do you have?  in terminal     lspci | grep -i vga
[19:07] <jrolland-ubuntu> Here is the link to the product: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103369
[19:07] <ikonia> misja: ok, the guys in #winehq maybe able to offer a bit of advice/help
[19:07] <misja> winetricks and wine program loader or something
[19:07] <misja> thx
[19:07] <b0ot> I want to search through a bunch of text and find a number between () after the word INTEGER on the line that has the word wave on it
[19:07] <b0ot> any idea how I might do this?
[19:07] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  still copy and paste that command inside a terminal window and paste the readout here
[19:08] <jrolland-ubuntu> What command? It's a link to the product specifications
[19:08] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,      lspci | grep -i vga
[19:08] <d3vic3> apt-get dist-upgrade with problems :
[19:08] <d3vic3> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[19:08] <d3vic3> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[19:08] <Linuxnew> thanks guys its working now :)
[19:08] <jrolland-ubuntu> I can't get any video on the installer
[19:08] <jrolland-ubuntu> So I can't open a terminal
[19:09] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  ah I see  sorry
[19:09] <mabus44> escott:
[19:09] <jrolland-ubuntu> This really sucks
[19:09] <jrolland-ubuntu> Thx anyway, coz_
[19:09] <Xase_> ... how the hell am I supposed to make an uncompressed zip file on Ubuntu ? -_- ther'es no option for compression ratio, and it always comes out compressed with a ratio of a 165
[19:09] <michael_> ugh everything is crashing joy
[19:09] <NewWorld> b0ot:  cat your_file | grep wave | sed      <<<< then you'll need to research some sed :)
[19:09] <rationalOgre> Linuxnew: For future reference, a downloaded script needs to be made executable before it can be run from a shell
[19:09] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,   checking out the specs  from that link hold on
[19:10] <oCean> d3vic3: do you have 'held' packages?
[19:10] <rationalOgre> Linuxnew: The command garrett__ gave you set the executable flag.
[19:10] <d3vic3> oCean : yep
[19:10] <iridium> zip -0 maybe Xase_ ?
[19:10] <NewWorld> Xase_:  Compression ratio of 0?
[19:10] <oCean> d3vic3: that is probably the issue then
[19:10] <tl1000s77> does anyone know where the icons for the start menu live?
[19:10] <Xase_> yes.
[19:10] <escott> mabus44, i just don't know what is happening. it could be permissions on the pulse audio socket or something that is making it so that applications are sending sound to pulse
[19:10] <Xase_> Let me try
[19:11] <d3vic3> oCean: ok, wbrb
[19:11] <escott> mabus44, if you have mplayer installed you could try mplayer -ao pulse somefile.mp3 and see if you get anything
[19:11] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,   from what I can tell that video chip should work,,,
[19:11] <jrolland-ubuntu> Thx again, coz_
[19:11] <mabus44> escott: thanks you but is solved the prblem... thank you
[19:11] <jrolland-ubuntu> Maybe it's the monitor
[19:11] <jrolland-ubuntu> ?
[19:11] <amitprakash> Hi.. while starting firestarter I am getting a Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[19:11] <rationalOgre> tl1000s77: for which desktop? Unity? Gnome?
[19:11] <amitprakash> How do I fix this?
[19:11] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: is there an easy way to have a script called on boot only after an IP address is leased for sure?
[19:11] <michael_> love xkill.
[19:11] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,   well when you downloaded the iso image,, did you check the md5sums ?
[19:12] <jrolland-ubuntu> No, I didn't
[19:12] <NewWorld> amitprakash:  Are you running firestarter as root?
[19:12] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  and  you downloaded the  ubuntu 11.04   yes
[19:12] <coz_> ?
[19:12] <jrolland-ubuntu> Lucid
[19:12] <jrolland-ubuntu> 10.04
[19:12] <amitprakash> NewWorld, yes
[19:12] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: I think you would need to use upstart at that point.
[19:12] <jrolland-ubuntu> I wanted to stay with LTS's
[19:12] <m_fulder> I want to send mail from my ubuntu server using an external SMTP what's the simplest/best package for this?
[19:12] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  ok let me check if 10.04 supports t hat chipset
[19:12] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: It has mechanisms for starting services conditionally
[19:12] <billybigrigger> m_fulder, have you read the server guide?
[19:13] <jrolland-ubuntu> Thanks you so much, coz_!
[19:13] <[DIWMS]> Hello All :D
[19:13] <jrolland-ubuntu> I thought I had checked it and it worked
[19:13] <Xase_> ... goddangit...
[19:13] <m_fulder> billybigrigger,  no which one do you mean?
[19:13] <billybigrigger> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[19:14] <billybigrigger> m_fulder, more specifically the email section....https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[19:14] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: Alternatively, you could have your script detect if the IP address is leased yet, and if not, set itself to run in 30sec or 1m or whatever.
[19:14] <jrolland-ubuntu> Here is my monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009299
[19:14] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: that's what my WinPE based batch file did.... ipconfig and read the Default Gateway line.  if it was <IP_ADDRESS> or 169.whatever it would wait 3 seconds and try again.
[19:15] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: So why not do the same.
[19:15] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: eh, before just repeating the 'windows way' i like to see if there's something slicker someone else has done
[19:16] <getjek> ?acpi
[19:16] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  looks like it is supported in the 2.6.33 kernel  and newer,, seems to be issues on lucid default
[19:16] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: I'm sure there is, I know upstart is supposed to be slick like that.
[19:16] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: If you don't mind investing the time to learn about upstart
[19:16] <getjek> Woops, trying to seach (and used to vi -- obviously, NOT used to irssi)... sorry.
[19:17] <Pergas> !list
[19:17] <jimmy51_>  rationalOgre: i'll keep it in mind.  for now, since it's PXE (lightweight) i'll probably just go the ipconfig parse route
[19:17] <jimmy51_> rationalOgre: err... ifconfig
[19:17] <sitapea1337> Good evening.
[19:17] <jrolland-ubuntu> Oh, I see; is there anything I can do to run Lucid on it?
[19:17] <amitprakash> Hi.. while starting firestarter I am getting a Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..How do I fix this?
[19:17] <rationalOgre> jimmy51_: hehe yeah, ifconfig
[19:17] <sitapea1337> I'm trying to install Ubuntu by Windows and I have downloaded ubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-amd64.iso. How can I make wubi.exe to use that iso? I have put it in the same directory, but it doesn't seem to "fetch" it.
[19:18] <nmvictor> My apt-get is broken, I get this error if i try to do anything: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/themelinux.com_themes_dists_themes_all_binary-i386_Packages
[19:18] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  mm  not sure,,  since it is not installed ,, I am not sure how to change the kernel before installation,, you could try using the minimal install cd to see if it will install first     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:18] <toad`> hi
[19:19] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  this is NOT a live cd ,, but only a few megs to download,,, see if the system installs via this mini cd first
[19:19] <LeeRock> Can someone suggest an alternative to dcop for opening multiple tab in Terminal?
[19:19] <bullfrog`> I have an external hard drive I cannot mount. msg: Error Mounting: mount exited with exit code 13
[19:19] <getjek> LeeRock: Have you heard of terminator?
[19:19] <LeeRock> no
[19:20] <getjek> LeeRock: It's not in Terminal, but it's worth taking a look at.
[19:20] <getjek> LeeRock: Careful, version in default apt repo is a little behind I think.
[19:20] <celthunder> LeeRock: what terminal are you using? vte? gnome-terminal? konsole? rxvt?
[19:20] <sitapea1337> Any suggestions to my problem?
[19:20] <LeeRock> I was using dcop in a bash script
[19:20] <coz_> jrolland-ubuntu,  burn that then boot the system and hit enter  it should begin and walk you through the install,,, you will get to a point when  a list of installation options are given,, scroll down with the arrow button and tick the   ubuntu desktop with the "Space" bar NOT enter button
[19:20] <LeeRock> gnome-terminal
[19:21] <mindspider> Hey
[19:21] <getjek> LeeRock: http://software.jessies.org/terminator/#downloads
[19:21] <mindspider> Do any of you know what is causing this problem with CoD4? http://i.imgur.com/ilkpb.jpg
[19:22] <oCean> mindspider: have you tried #winehq ?
[19:22] <getjek> mindspide: What version of Ubuntu?
[19:22] <getjek> *mindspider
[19:22] <billybigrigger> anyone tried to run duke nukem in wine yet?
[19:22] <UbuntuQ> raidgh0st: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626740/
[19:23] <nmvictor> useless
[19:23] <nmvictor> !
[19:23] <vectory> billybigrigger: #wine?
[19:23] <oCean> !appdb | billybigrigger
[19:23] <billybigrigger> oCean, thanks
[19:23] <TuxOtaku> hey, I have Ubuntu Natty Narwhal running on a Gateway LT20 netbook. Wireless is a broadcom BCM4312, but gnome says "wireless disabled by hardware switch"
[19:23] <celthunder> sitapea1337: /query celthunder1
[19:23] <celthunder> sitapea1337: /query celthunder1
[19:23] <freq9> is it possible to install ubuntu and encrypt the hdd after installation or do i need to set it up during the installation?
[19:23] <celthunder> sitapea1337: oops sorry
[19:23] <billybigrigger> your about as useful as #winehq
[19:24] <sitapea1337> Right :D
[19:24] <eb3ha4el> any recommended software for hotkey binding?
[19:24] <UbuntuQ> raidghOst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626740/
[19:24] <mindspider> Sorry for not replying to those of you trying to help
[19:24] <BlouBlou> freq9: It can be done after installation
[19:24] <UbuntuQ> raidghOst: thank you
[19:24] <mindspider> I'm currently trying out stuff that people in #winehq recommended. Didn't mean to ignore you.
[19:24] <rationalOgre> sitapea1337: either burn the iso to cd or mount it in windows somehow and on the root of the folder will be a wubi.exe
[19:24] <BlouBlou> freq9: But ubuntu doesn't encrypt the whole HDD, it only encrypts your home folder
[19:25] <rationalOgre> sitapea1337: Run that wubi.exe and it will use the files from the cd to install
[19:25] <arif-ali> does anyone know if we are getting a 3.0.0 kernel for natty by any chance, I have tried the latest snapshot from mainline, and that now has started to have dependancies that are not in natty, but in oneiric
[19:25] <freq9> BlouBlou: this was my next question :D
[19:25] <eb3ha4el> Any recommended software for hotkey bindings?
[19:25] <sitapea1337> rationalOgre - thanks
[19:25] <freq9> BlouBlou: if i want to encrypt the whole hdd i need to set it up before/during installation?
[19:25] <sitapea1337> I see it now :)
[19:26] <NewWorld> eb3ha4el:  xbindkeys
[19:26] <BlouBlou> freq9: I woudln't recommend doing it, but I think no
[19:26] <eb3ha4el> NewWorld: fantastic, thanks
[19:26] <BlouBlou> wouldn't*
[19:26] <arif-ali> !kernel
[19:26] <BlouBlou> freq9: errr, I mean, it can be done after installation
[19:27] <CppIsWeird> one of my vm's is on ubuntu 10.04, i do a do-release-upgrade and it says theres no new releases found. what gives?
[19:27] <arif-ali> !mainline
[19:27] <bullgard4> If I press F12 in Compiz Natty GNOME 2, the window having the focus will be surrounded by some kind of a gloriole. What is this supposed to mean?
[19:27] <mindspider> Issue fixed. Thanks to everyone that offered help.
[19:27] <pythoned> Hello, I have a 250 gb hdd. I installed ubuntu but now I need to resize the partition because I want to install windows too. How do I do that?
[19:28] <jrolland-ubuntu> coz_, should I boot into windows before starting the minimal cd or should I try to boot from the minimal cd?
[19:28] <freq9> BlouBlou: i have the new laptop but i am still undecided if i want to set up a whole hdd encryption or if i only want the home folder to be encrypted.
[19:28] <BlouBlou> freq9: Read this if before doing anything >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[19:28] <pythoned> I searched on google but I find only websites filled with adsense and spam. Nothing relevant..
[19:28] <bullgard4> pythonerd: Use a Live CD and GParted on it.
[19:28] <Corey> !gparted | pythoned
[19:28] <gnewb> !partition | pythoned
[19:28] <BlouBlou> freq9: Personally, I'd recommend doing it to your home folder only
[19:29] <NewWorld> pythoned:  Resize how? Make it smaller or bigger. Gparted does a very stupid thing that some other partitioners don't do, so I'd like to warn you if it's relevant
[19:29] <freq9> BlouBlou: performance? problem with usb-sticks?
[19:29] <pythoned> NewWorld,  Well I want from those 230gb the partition has to make a partition of 60gb.
[19:30] <BlouBlou> freq9: I never tried running an ubuntu with the whole HDD encrypted, but if you mean just with the home folder encrypted, it works really fast, and I don't have any problems with usb-sticks
[19:30] <pythoned> NewWorld,  Everything is on one partition right now...it was recommended by Ubuntu when I installed it.(for beginners).
[19:31] <freq9> BlouBlou: brrr :D the problem with usb-sticks is related to the keyfile, not to encryption at all
[19:31] <BlouBlou> I don't know then
[19:33] <NewWorld> pythoned:  It'll be fine I think, but Gparted does very dumb things... I just can't remember all the details, sorry. Anyway those dumb things aren't terrible, just annoying
[19:33] <rationalOgre> pythoned: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/05/06/install-windows-after-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/
[19:34] <rationalOgre> pythoned: The general technique will work for really any version of ubuntu
[19:34] <freq9> BlouBlou: okay, thanks for your help ;) will read your mentioned article and will then (or after reading some more tutorials/howtos) decide if i'll encrypt the whole hdd or only the home folder.
[19:35] <rationalOgre> freq9: Just know there are 'bugs" with whole hdd encryption.
[19:35] <BlouBlou> freq9: Great! :-) Feel free to ask if you have any question
[19:35] <pythoned> "Warning : this will ERASE ALL data on the entire disk/dev/sda" :| Doesn't gparted know how to resize?
[19:35] <rufo> sadf
[19:36] <rationalOgre> pythoned: http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/11/04/how-to-resize-linux-partitions-using-gparted/
[19:36] <freq9> rationalOgre: this is one of the reasons i am still undecided about encrypting the whole system or only my home folder.
[19:36] <pythoned> rationalOgre,  Thank you
[19:37] <Megalowwww> hi everyone, I'm monitoring some programs on my pc lately and I've been using nethogs for a while but playing abit with the software center I found gufw, I noticed that once started the GUI also lists all the connections made in real time, now i need some security informations or just opinions about their usage, according to you which one would be better to use security wise? (assuming im in a hostile environment)
[19:37] <tomekh> hi. where I can edit options for xorg? i guess not /etc/X11/xorg.conf - what file now handles that settings?
[19:37] <rationalOgre> pythoned: Make sure you shrink so that the new partition is at the beginning of the drive.
[19:37] <pythoned> rationalOgre,  Ok
[19:37] <rationalOgre> pythoned: It needs to show up as the first partition for windows
[19:37] <UbuntuQ> after using Bleachbit, this happened, http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=btVAMoMIvS, anyone knows how to fix it?!
[19:39] <rationalOgre> UbuntuQ: Reboot
[19:39] <rationalOgre> UbuntuQ: So they can be recreated
[19:39] <UbuntuQ> i did couple of times
[19:39] <sitapea1337> rationalOgre - it seems like I have been mistaken.
[19:40] <sitapea1337> There is no wubi.exe in my downloaded iso.
[19:40] <sitapea1337> And I have no idea how I can make wubi.exe fetch my iso - some command maybe?
[19:40] <aguitel> anyone use lenovo G560 notebook?
[19:40] <tomekh> where i can edit xorg settings? editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf takes no effects!
[19:41] <UbuntuQ> rationalOgre: when i open the log viewer form root it doesn't show this message though.
[19:41] <bullgard4> If I press F12 in Compiz Natty GNOME 2, the window having the focus will be surrounded by some kind of a gloriole. What is this supposed to mean?
[19:42] <Megalowwww> hi everyone, I'm monitoring some programs on my pc lately and I've been using nethogs for a while but playing abit with the software center I found gufw, I noticed that once started the GUI also lists all the connections made in real time, now i need some security informations or just opinions about their usage, according to you which one would be better to use security wise? (assuming im in a hostile environment)
[19:42] <rationalOgre> sitapea1337: Just says it has to be in the same folder and has to be a plain desktop ISO, not one of the alternative cd's
[19:42] <rationalOgre> UbuntuQ: Hrm. No clue. I've never used bitbleach.
[19:42] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there an Ubuntu program that can convert subtitles files .idx to .srt? so VLC can read them?
[19:42] <pseudonymous> anyone know of a guide for using UCK (the ubuntu customization kit)'s CLI scripts only ? The project has *zero* documentation and I'd like to use the ubuntu mini image (claims to be made for the purposes of customization - doesn't document how to do so with UCK either) -- kinda bummed that people make something and can't be arsed to write documentation -_-
[19:43] <sitapea1337> Why I can't install alternative by wubi?
[19:43] <celthunder> Megalowwww: gufw and nethogs do two different things
[19:43] <UbuntuQ> rationalOgre: alright, thanks for helping before fo cleaning the Boot.log though, you're awesome.
[19:44] <rationalOgre> UbuntuQ: You're welcome.
[19:44] <Megalowwww> celthunder: of course they do but i noticed that gufw also lists connections, that would be pretty eye candy too, doesnt gufw also list the program (or pid) using it?
[19:44] <rationalOgre> UbuntuQ: and thanks. :)
[19:44] <celthunder> Megalowwww: gufw manages your firewall nethogs displayes trafic used by each process
[19:45] <UbuntuQ> rationalOgre: :)
[19:45] <Megalowwww> celthunder: i know that i had just noticed that one of gufw features is also display connections and was asking if it was safe to use it instead of nethogs
[19:45] <celthunder> Megalowwww: uhm that's up to you then and how you want the connections displayed/sorted.  the bdest tool i've seen for that overall is netstat
[19:46] <rafi> dpkg can not find db-man, anyone can help me ?
[19:46] <rafi> how to reinstall db-man
[19:46] <oCean> rafi: package is called man-db
[19:47] <rafi> but i can't install anything, always dpkg error
[19:47] <rafi> i know but it's not remove my problem
[19:48] <pseudonymous> bump for any documentation on using the individual scripts of UCK (ubuntu customization kit)
[19:49] <theadmin> Hamsters.
[19:49] <oCean> pseudonymous: you've been here http://uck.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/uck/trunk/uck/docs/html/index.html ?
[19:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there an Ubuntu program that can convert subtitles files .idx to .srt? so VLC can read them?
[19:50] <vandemar> Corey: can you briefly elaborate how the motorola cable modem caches mac addresses?  I found messages on some web forums indicating it is picky about handing out dhcp addresses, but no explanation on why... if the surfboard just runs a compliant dhcp server it should be handing out ip addresses to anyone who asks, but evidently that isn't the case?
[19:51] <pseudonymous> oCean: yea, I have. It's not worth a whole not either. Essentially that documentation boils down to "run uck-gui - otherwise I made these scripts, uck-* -- I call them, you could too" no mention of order or what does what
[19:52] <vandemar> doesn't really help that the surfboard manual is complete crap, gives no technically useful information at all
[19:52] <escott> vandemar, they used to have this crazy idea that only one computer should ever be allowed to connect to the modem, and you should buy another modem for a second computer. but nobody did that, instead they just put a router behind it. most routers will support mac address cloning on the WAn
[19:53] <rationalOgre> pseudonymous: you could try asking in #ubuntu-devel
[19:54] <vandemar> escott: sounds like what's happening, so the web forum messages I found suggest that leaving it unplugged long enough, like an hour, will let it start handing out dhcp addresses to a different mac... sound right?
[19:54] <pseudonymous> rationalOgre: hmm, I'll try that too then :) (Grr just annoyed at it atm)
[19:54] <tortib> Hello, can someone help me get /etc/rc.local to work peroperly?  the execute permissions are set on /etc/rc.local, /etc/init.d/rc.local is set to run on level 2,3,4 & 5, yet when I boot my machine the commands i have specified in /etc/rc.local still do not run, can someone please help me out?
[19:54] <rationalOgre> tortib: Did you run update-rc.d?
[19:55] <tortib> rationalOgre: well I used sysv-rc-conf and it shows that it's set to run on levels 2,3,4 & 5.
[19:55] <escott> vandemar, maybe it might be some technical limitation in the ppp connection the isp provides. its actually your mac that talks to the isps server the modem is in fact a true modem.
[19:55] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there an Ubuntu program that can convert subtitles files .idx to .srt? so VLC can read them?
[19:55] <escott> vandemar, if you dont want to wait that long you can most likely clone the mac address of the last computer to connect
[19:56] <vandemar> escott: cox cable :(
[19:56] <Corey> vandemar: It's not compliant. :-)
[19:58] <escott> vandemar, i guess actually the cable modem does have a mac. best bet is to get yourself a router. they are cheap and will save you substantial difficulties in the future
[19:59] <wise_man_> this is not an answer
[19:59] <rationalOgre> tortib: Did you follow through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto < that?
[20:00] <escott> vandemar, cox is just being obnoxious and instead of just authenticating your modem they are also authenticating the computer that connects to it
[20:00] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there an Ubuntu program that can convert subtitles files .idx to .srt? so VLC can read them?
[20:01] <nmvictor> If someone cares to help, is compiz-dev installable in Natty Narwhal? Please HELP with this, its been giving me a headache for a week now
[20:01] <vandemar> escott: christ, figures.  also could be because the computer had a virtualbox vm running bridged... that probably didn't help
[20:02] <escott> vandemar, that shouldn't matter it should all be talking through the host
[20:02] <bullgard4> If I press F12 in Compiz Natty GNOME 2, the window having the focus will be surrounded by some kind of a gloriole. What is this supposed to mean?
[20:02] <vandemar> I've never even looked at traffic on the wire from a bridged virtualbox to know whether it uses the physical nic's mac
[20:03] <escott> vandemar, but i dont really know how those vm network stacks work
[20:03] <vandemar> but I think the multiple dhcp lease requests might still be confusing the router
[20:03] <celthunder> vandemar: escott it should use the vm's mac.
[20:03] <vandemar> yeah okay, so two separate macs and two separate dhcp requests probably fubar'd cox's dhcp server
[20:04] <escott> vandemar, then how does the host know what traffic is intended for guest and what for host?
[20:04] <celthunder> vandemar: escott you can tell it to use the same mac as the host but i SERIOUSLY wouldn't do that...that'd be a good way to fuck up your networking
[20:04] <oCean> celthunder: control the language please
[20:04] <nmvictor> IS compiz-dev PACKAGE INSTALLABLE IN UBUNTU 11.04? someone confirm this for me, PLEA....SE.
[20:04] <celthunder> escott: by mac/ip depending what layer of the network you're in (2 you're at mac 3 ip etc)
[20:04] <hemika> Hello can anyone please help me, i have dell studio 15, and just now installed 11.04, but wifi isn't working
[20:05] <vandemar> why oh why can't the cablemodem dhcp server / dhcp pass-through just WORK like every other dhcp server on the planet
[20:06] <escott> vandemar, i bet if you read the TOS they probably still have some ridiculous language that technically prohibits your putting a wireless lan behind the cable modem
[20:06] <klown> oCean, do you have profanity highlight you?  Just wondering, because I always see you catching profanity.
[20:06] <nmvictor> hemika: GOODluck finding help on this channel, I wonder what happened to the community, oor is theur another channel for newbies, discussions here seem very technical and its like newbie's questions are ignored
[20:06] <oCean> klown: I have lots of highlights, yes
[20:06] <MistuhKurtz> anybody know why mt-dappd might not pick up on my MP3 files in my directory?
[20:07] <MistuhKurtz> I installed the mp3 tag library
[20:07] <tigerplug292> hi there, having some issues - had laptop with ONLY ubuntu, resize partition with GPARTED - worked fine
[20:07] <rationalOgre> tortib: Get it sorted?
[20:07] <celthunder> vandemar: btw i came in late what're you trying to do with your cable modem? just dhcp passthrough should be easy enough
[20:07] <tigerplug292> booted with XP and attempted to install, install failed on the new 10GB partition
[20:07] <hemika> nmvictor, i doubt that
[20:07] <tigerplug292> now I can't boot to Ubuntu
[20:07] <tigerplug292> I get  a "no bootable device" or similar
[20:07] <klown> newbie questions are not ignored, but while your waiting for someone to help, most of them can be found with simple searches.
[20:07] <tigerplug292> on liveCD right now
[20:08] <rationalOgre> tigerplug292: Rough. Did you copy out your bootsector before doing this?
[20:08] <celthunder> hemika: what chipset is your wireless card does it show up in lspci?
[20:08] <trism> nmvictor: yes, it is installable, you should pastebin the error you are getting
[20:08] <tigerplug292> I run 11.04 but I'm on 7.10 LiveCD - is there a way to repair grub?
[20:08] <techdesk> join / #ubuntu-es
[20:08] <tigerplug292> rationalOgre: no, I didn't do any additional steps
[20:08] <hemika> klown, my problem ain't solved even after researching
[20:08] <tigerplug292> Windows - Everytime -A headache
[20:08] <celthunder> nmvictor: ? i never saw your question but if it was reasonable someone would probably answer if they had one
[20:08] <nmvictor> trism: THANKS, Im on it!
[20:08] <celthunder> tigerplug292: yeah
[20:09] <tigerplug292> rationalOgre: so I was running grub 2 afaik
[20:09] <tigerplug292> how can I fix things?
[20:09] <tigerplug292> tried to sudo grub
[20:09] <tigerplug292>  and
[20:09] <klown> !wireless | hemika
[20:09] <klown> did you check there?
[20:09] <rationalOgre> tigerplug292: Did you try holding shift while booting to see if you can get the grub2 menu to come up?
[20:09] <nmvictor> celthunder: what do you mean reasonable? Like the way you sond? It wasn't that (un)reasonable.
[20:09] <celthunder> hemika: chipset? kernel module you're using?
[20:09] <vandemar> celthunder: there's a computer connected directly to a motorola surfboard 5101 connected to cox cable.  There is link on the ethernet interface and packets are being passed both directions according to net statistics, but no dhcp response to the dhcp request.  There is also a winxp VM, bridged, and my current working theory is that the two mac addresses and/or two dhcp requests managed to screw up the dhcp server so it won't hand out addresses to either
[20:10] <albacker> so how do i update to 11.04 ?apparently dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade
[20:10] <tigerplug292> root(hd0,0)
[20:10] <BlouBlou> !upgrade | albacker
[20:10] <hemika> celthunder, i am sorry ain't able to figure out even after typing in LSPCI
[20:10] <celthunder> hemika: pastebin lspci and ifconfig -a
[20:10] <tigerplug292> Is my install completely screwed? rationalOgre
[20:10] <tigerplug292> rationalOgre: I'll have to try that now :-(
[20:10] <vandemar> celthunder: I have no way to know if dhcp was working on the host before the vm started, but now it's definitely not.
[20:10] <tigerplug292> need to move off liveCD obviously to book :-S
[20:11] <WhatTheFlip> I'm totally new with ubuntu, and I'd like to know if there's a way to costumize the sidebar. Other than just moving the position of the icons
[20:11] <celthunder> vandemar: ok does static addressing work?
[20:11] <albacker> BlouBlou, well, isn't there a CL way?
[20:11] <vandemar> celthunder: I don't know the gateway ip
[20:11] <nmvictor> trism: there you go: http://pastebin.com/gH3G7thv , hope you help me out of this
[20:11] <hemika> celthunder, this is for lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/626780/
[20:12] <celthunder> vandemar: also if it's a true modem (someone earlier said it was) then you can't use bridging...change that to nat
[20:12] <aguitel> anyone use lenovo G560 notebook with ubuntu ?
[20:12] <BlouBlou> albacker: obviusly, it is, but don't ask me for it, I don't know the command
[20:12] <celthunder> vandemar: but either way one of the two should get a dhcp request
[20:12] <escott> celthunder, vandemar its not i was wrong
[20:12] <celthunder> escott: ok
[20:12] <vandemar> celthunder: one would think, but winxp was reporting no ip address as well
[20:13] <celthunder> vandemar: xp at the very LEAST should report a 169 (useless) address
[20:13] <mikeshultz> What program catches the mounts in /media and puts them in Places and shortcuts on the desktop?  Is it just Nautilus?
[20:13] <hemika> this is for ifconfig -a http://paste.ubuntu.com/626782/     celthunder
[20:13] <trism> nmvictor: pastebin: apt-cache policy compiz-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
[20:13] <escott> mikeshultz, gnome-volume-manager and its actually the reverse it creates the mounts and notifies nautilus
[20:14] <nmvictor> trism: should I run that?
[20:14] <kurisu> hi guys, does anyone know of a decent php/mysql finance system???
[20:14] <trism> nmvictor: yes, it just prints the versions of packages available and where they come from
[20:14] <smw> kurisu, define "finance"
[20:14] <celthunder> hemika: 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01) is your wireless card
[20:14] <mikeshultz> escott: Not totally reverse, as it'll cath mounts already there.  In this case, we're trying to get it to 'see' autofs mounts that aren't mounted yet.  And thanks for the info.
[20:14] <escott> mikeshultz, gvfs-*-volume-manager
[20:15] <vandemar> celthunder: that's what I mean... I didn't actually check the ip address last time I had that VM up, but it was reporting limited/no internet connectivity which I think (but didn't actually look) meant it had assigned a 169 ip
[20:15] <celthunder> mikeshultz: i wouldn't use autofs....autofs is broken and outdated.
[20:15] <arabcoder> off topic, but ask anyway
[20:15] <mikeshultz> escott: huh?
[20:15] <kurisu> smw: budgeting
[20:15] <pipegeek> Is there any way to specify (without including it in the package name), either directly in the yum command line or in yum.conf, which architecture it should assume when requested to install packages?  The default behavior of "install everything I can get my hands on" is frustrating.
[20:15] <mikeshultz> celthunder: Other suggestions?  Managing mounts in fstab for 100 computers would be a pain.
[20:15] <Pici> pipegeek: Ubuntu doesn't use yum.
[20:15] <celthunder> vandemar: ok so what's the modem currently set to dhcp server, and ppp to the cable company?
[20:15] <smw> kurisu, why a web one?   My sincere apologies; wrong channel
[20:16] <celthunder> mikeshultz: udisks/devmon
[20:16] <kurisu> smw: I'm starting uni soon, so I want a way to plan and track all of my income/expenditure
[20:16] <pipegeek> good call, Pici :)
[20:16] <Pici> pipegeek: Thats fine, but mind the language please.
[20:16] <escott> mikeshultz, its not actually gnome-volume bug gvfs-something-volume there is a set of them in /usr/lib/gvfs
[20:16] <pipegeek> err, sorry
[20:16] <nmvictor> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626784/
[20:16] <juxo> So before I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 my windows used to have borders in my windows and that bar that you can use to drag around or push one of the icons in the upper-righthand corner of the windows ... I used to use an outdated window decorator called "Emerald" .. I've now removed that but no avail .. any help would be appreciated. Oh, and it's a Xubuntu if that's of importance. The guys at #xubuntu haven't been able to help..
[20:16] <vandemar> celthunder: it's a motorola surfboard.  it has basically zero configuration options.  afaik it does something, possibly ppp, to the cable company and runs a dhcp server locally
[20:16] <smw> kurisu, but why a web based one?
[20:16] <nmvictor> trism: there you go
[20:16] <bullgard4> If I press F12 in Compiz Natty GNOME 2, the window having the focus will be surrounded by some kind of a gloriole. What is this supposed to mean?
[20:16] <mikeshultz> escott: celthunder:  Thanks for the info, folks.
[20:16] <hemika> celthunder, now what?
[20:17] <celthunder> hemika: load the broadcom kernel modules/install the broadcom firmware
[20:17] <kurisu> smw: I want a web one as I'm setting up a server for all of my uni content and code.... and I'm in the middle of creating a 'paranoid' backup system.... just thought it would be better to combine everything
[20:17] <vandemar> I think the best solution I will do in a few days is get a router and stick it behind the cable modem so I don't have to deal with the cable modem or its picky mac detection ever again
[20:17] <fructose> I find it really annoying that I cannot drag windows above the top panel (or even on top of) the top panel. Is there any way to enable this?
[20:17] <celthunder> vandemar: ok you gotta have a gui of some kind at minimum a web interface/telnet option...cna you get to it through either of those
[20:17] <trism> nmvictor: yes, you have a ppa with a version of compiz-dev that overrides the repo version, you should probably remove that ppa or talk to the ppa owner about fixing the dependencies
[20:18] <kurisu> smw: and easier to access data... where ever I am
[20:18] <tigerplug292> rationalOgre: well... that didn't work :-D
[20:18] <celthunder> vandemar: also if you don't know what the gateway is are you SURE it's running a dhcp server?
[20:18] <klown> vandemar, not sure if its the case with this modem, but sometimes you can call your isp, and they will walk you through the modems config to turn off mac address filtering
[20:19] <tigerplug292> vandemar: what is the modem?
[20:19] <kurisu> smw: I've googled but the one's I've found seem to be half assed attempts
[20:19] <hemika> celthunder, how do i basically do that? sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-soruce?
[20:19] <vandemar> motorola surfboard 5101
[20:19] <hemika> source*
[20:19] <tigerplug292> anyone able to help out with a grub / boot issue after trying to install windows Failed
[20:19] <smw> kurisu, I do not believe there is a good one out there...
[20:19] <celthunder> vandemar: are you sure it's running a dhcp server?
[20:19] <kurisu> smw: ah right... might be time to code it myself
[20:19] <vandemar> yes, it gave a dhcp address before when I had it local
[20:19] <celthunder> kk
[20:20] <smw> kurisu, if you do... make it a frontend to gnucash.
[20:20] <smw> kurisu, I want one badly :-P
[20:20] <mikeshultz> celthunder: Wait, devmon?  For what purpose?
[20:20] <kurisu> smw: I'm already going to be coding the backup system my self so lot's of extra stuf to do before I start uni
[20:20] <celthunder> mikeshultz: udisks tells devmon about the devices devmon mounts it you can mod it to mount how/where you want obviously
[20:21] <smw> kurisu, um... maybe you may want to look at tarsnap
[20:21] <celthunder> mikeshultz: not what yo uwanted
[20:21] <nmvictor> trism: well, I should let you know that recently, I downgraded to compiz-0.8.6, but honestly, befor the downgrade, I was having the same error with compiz 0.9.4(or whatever version that ships with Natty) infact I had thought downgrading would fix the problem although my reason for downgrading was majorly to avoid the bugs I encountered with compiz 0.9.4
[20:21] <escott> mikeshultz, udisks identifies the hotplug event and passes that to udev i didnt think it did the actual mounting, but celthunder seems to know more than i do
[20:21] <kurisu> smw: ok I'll look into it, gnucash does look good, but I really want it online
[20:21] <kaustubh> can anyone tell me how can we resize home window?
[20:21] <smw> kurisu, all code is opensource
[20:21] <kurisu> smw: ok will do
[20:21] <kurisu> smw: thanks
[20:21] <nit-wit> tigerplug292, you need a natty disc to fix natty's grub
[20:21] <celthunder> escott: udisks doesn't do mounting that's right
[20:21] <quellhorst> way offtopic, but has anyone setup a linux server for a fileserver for a windows network? curious if there is a gui you can give clients to access
[20:22] <tigerplug292> nit-wit - FUDGE :-S
[20:22] <banker247_> my liveCD stopped booting for some reason
[20:22] <celthunder> quellhorst: winscp
[20:22] <banker247_> gets to splash screen then hangs
[20:22] <celthunder> quiescens: or samba
[20:22] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: I could create a bootable natty USB stick using this livecd right?
[20:22] <smw> kurisu, tarsnap has alot of opensource code
[20:22]  * quiescens blinks.
[20:22] <nit-wit> tigerplug292, yes
[20:22] <escott> celthunder, id love to actually understand how this all works. is there a good description of the process?
[20:22] <nit-wit> tigerplug292, is it a natty cd?
[20:23] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: its a 7.10 cd
[20:24] <kaustubh> how to resize window?
[20:24] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: is it possible to download and burn a cd while running from Live?
[20:24] <tigerplug292> guessing live is in memory?
[20:24] <tigerplug292> :-S
[20:24] <celthunder> escott: i can probably find one
[20:24] <evgen> ээээ
[20:24] <nmvictor> trism: in a nutshel, the problem is beyond the new PPA inclusion to my system. Infact, I posted this problem but dint get much help from ubuntuforums though someone had suggested that I might be having conflicting software sources. That was before the compiz downgrade and I kind of believed him coz I had done a dist-upgrade to Natty and not a clean install. Please dont abandon me and  my problem,
[20:24] <evgen> есть кто?
[20:24] <FloodBot1> evgen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <ribatejoluso> hi, something is pretty weird
[20:24] <guntbert> !ru | evgen
[20:25] <quellhorst> celthunder: is there a decent samba web config? like they want different users to have access to different directories
[20:25] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: downloading the ISO
[20:25] <ribatejoluso> I don have any sound in natty on a laptop from a friend
[20:25] <ribatejoluso> just installed
[20:25] <elad> hello
[20:25] <celthunder> quellhorst: idk i don't use samba...and from what i've seen it looks pretty easy to do that
[20:25] <evgen> живые тута есть?)
[20:25] <ribatejoluso> I did run alsamixer
[20:25] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: is it an automated process? ie - is there a repair option when I have that CD?
[20:25] <quellhorst> celthunder: ok thanks
[20:25] <trism> nmvictor: yes, there may indeed be other issues preventing the install as well, but the primary issue at the moment is the ppa
[20:25] <maco> !ru | evgen
[20:26] <kurisu> smw: tarsnap looks awesome... thanks.... I love the description 'Tarsnap - Online backups for the truly paranoid'
[20:26] <nit-wit> tigerplug292, download the natty ISO load to a cd or thumb and follow this guide it defaults to loading grub2 from a live cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[20:27] <ribatejoluso> hda sis966
[20:27] <nmvictor> trism: should I revert the downgrade, I'll need to logout and back in, Do you care to wait?
[20:27] <ribatejoluso> that is my sound card
[20:27] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: thankyou
[20:27] <trism> nmvictor: yes, I will be here
[20:27] <smw> kurisu, that is why it sounded like what you were working on :-). Also, a fun page. http://www.tarsnap.com/bugbounty.html
[20:27] <nit-wit> tigerplug292, 3 commands one to confirm the HD set up=sudo fdisk -l then two more to load gryb.
[20:27] <kurisu> smw: awesome... thnks
[20:27] <nmvictor> trism: thanks, get2u soon
[20:27] <nit-wit> *grub,  no pronlem.;)
[20:28] <ribatejoluso> sudo lspci | grep Audio
[20:28] <kurisu> smw: I figure that the course is costing me £9000 for the 4 years.... therefore my data will be worth £9000.... and thats making me paranoid
[20:28] <ribatejoluso> 00:0f.0 Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller
[20:29] <vandemar> tarsnap is awsome, the only problem is it's written and maintained by one person, ignoring that he's really smart and was the fbsd security officer, that's only one person who has an economic incentive to look at, improve, and fix the code.
[20:29] <kurisu> smw: I've lost alot of data in the past, and I definately dont want to loose any of my course data
[20:30] <RealKillaz> How can I install the ubuntu OS without an internet? Right now it keeps asking me to choose a mirror of the Ubuntu Archive.?
[20:30] <Fopp> Hi guys. Currently running ubuntu 11.04, but I want to reinstall it, start from scratch. I burned a disc to do so, but it only loads into trial mode without giving me installation options. anyone know what im doing wrong? thanks
[20:30] <smw> kurisu, dropbox
[20:30] <kurisu> vademar: thanks, smw already suggested it... looking inyo it now
[20:30] <vandemar> personally i just use either truecrypt containers or gnupg and then dropbox or direct backup to s3
[20:30] <kurisu> into*
[20:30] <celthunder> RealKillaz: don't use the netinstall?
[20:30] <smw> kurisu, not exactly for the paranoid... but dropbox is dead simple :-P
[20:31] <kurisu> smw: I'm really paranoid
[20:31] <smw> kurisu, crashplan is also very good if you have more than the dropbox free tier
[20:31] <smw> kurisu, then ignore everything I am saying :-P
[20:31] <vandemar> dropbox is not secure, be sure to encrypt anything in your dropbox folder that you don't want them to be able to read.
[20:31] <captainKane> hey there, can somebody tell me how i open a new root(!) terminal window from a terminal window :)?
[20:31] <smw> kurisu, however, course work is not exactly secret :-P
[20:31] <RealKillaz> celthunder, Ok, buthow?
[20:31] <hemika> Wifi doesn't work after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04,hoow to resolve?
[20:31] <smw> captainKane, why?
[20:32] <kurisu> smw: im so paranoid that I'm planning a machine to automatically load/uload DVD's into a burner to make weekly hard copies.... EMP proof
[20:32] <andai> I want to use flashcard software to memorize musical notation. For this i will need some musical notation :P  Should I use some kind of notation software and screenshot it?
[20:32] <RealKillaz> celthunder, I need the netboot.... but without internet
[20:32] <vandemar> also there's a project called duplicity that uses gnupg and does full and incremental backups to another host (scp/sftp) or s3
[20:32] <vandemar> it's really nice
[20:32] <captainKane> smw, it is an exercise from university (buffer overflow attack), but i have no clue how to open a new root terminal from an application which has already root rights :
[20:32] <smw> kurisu, you course work matters if erased by EMP because?
[20:33] <celthunder> RealKillaz: uhm then have a local mirror? idk pick either a normal install or netinstall but if yo upick NET INSTALL read the first word there...you need the internet you might be able to do a min install from it without internet not sure
[20:33] <kurisu> smp: just incase
[20:33] <kurisu> smw:*
[20:33] <smw> captainKane, ah, you need to -> export DISPLAY=':0'
[20:33] <Fopp> Hi guys. Currently running ubuntu 11.04, but I want to reinstall it, start from scratch. I burned a disc to do so, but it only loads into trial mode without giving me installation options. anyone know what im doing wrong? thanks
[20:33] <kurisu> smw: like I said... my data will be worth ~ £10000
[20:33] <kurisu> smw: don't want to loose it
[20:34] <smw> kurisu, never saw you say that! lol
[20:34] <robin0800> Fopp: hit space when it starts
[20:34] <kurisu> smw: oh right.... maybe you understand why I'm so paranoid now?
[20:35] <Fopp> ok ill try robin thans]
[20:35] <ph8> has anyone on natty been seeing flash crashing all over the place since a recent upgrade?
[20:35] <ph8> (in browser)
[20:35] <nmvictor> trism: The downgrade is still on, Just wanted to take this opportunity present this to you, http://paste.ubuntu.com/626793/ , i get that whanever I apt-get update/upgrade/install , Could you be knowing how to fix that?
[20:35] <adam__> can someone help me with a simple ubuntu terminal question, im stuck
[20:35] <jrib> adam__: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:36] <adam__> ok
[20:36] <smw> kurisu, I just read why you think the coursework is worth 10,000 :-P
[20:36] <smw> kurisu, I disagree with your reasoning
[20:36] <untitledwiz> How can I set the compression level over ssh on the command line?
[20:36] <adam__> im a total noob, im navigating around and now whenever i type a command it just outputs two instances of it, i cant do anything
[20:36] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: whats the best way for me to create a bootable USB
[20:36] <tigerplug292> nit-wit: while on livecd - I have the files and the USB drive ready to go
[20:37] <aguitel> anyone use lenovo G560 notebook with ubuntu ?
[20:37] <adam__> its like im stuck in a typing mode
[20:37] <trism> nmvictor: you must have installed a version of ffmpeg from somewhere that uses an invalid version string (it starts with a letter), it may not be a big issue because it is only a warning
[20:38] <tq> no, but i use a b570 which i think is similar
[20:38] <kurisu> smw: why's that.... If I have an assignment, my dissertation for example, and my hard drive dies then I fail.... that would be £10000 wasted
[20:38] <untitledwiz> How can I set the compression level over ssh on the command line?
[20:38] <fructose> Is there any way I can enable dragging windows above the top panel?
[20:38] <kermit> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 says my wireless card isnt supported.. is there a different way to get it to work, like with an NDIS wrapper maybe?
[20:38] <tq> aguitel: no, but i use a b570 which i think is similar
[20:39] <adam__> anyone have a suggestion?
[20:39] <nit-wit> tigerplug292, you downloaded the Natty ISO download unetbootin to load the thumb.  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/   I am going to assume that this will work on that old of a cd.
[20:39] <genii-around> untitledwiz: I believe like: ssh -C -o CompressionLevel#   where # is 1-9
[20:39] <nmvictor> trism: yea, but its quite a bother especially whn you are following the apt-get process. Isnt their a way to do away with it?
[20:39] <smw> kurisu, yes, which requires backups (like dropbox)...
[20:39] <aguitel> tq, with 10.04 touchpad is not working
[20:39] <celthunder> tigerplug292: see othe rchan
[20:39] <smw> kurisu, not paranoia.
[20:39] <smw> kurisu, but whatever you want :-P
[20:40] <kurisu> smw: I figure with that much relying on my data that I'm allowed to be a bit paranoid
[20:40] <tenseg> Trying to mount an external  harddrive  that used to work, but now I get an error message. Any suggestions?
[20:40] <tq> aguitel: ah, i've only tried it with 11.04
[20:40] <kurisu> smw: I want to be paranoid:-P
[20:40] <aguitel> tq, no 10.10?
[20:40] <smw> kurisu, I can understand that :-P
[20:40] <untitledwiz> genii-around: thanks - I'll give that a try!
[20:40] <adam__> when i type it just copies it twice, it doesnt let me run commands, how do i get out of that
[20:40] <rahduke3> lil help please, how do i gain full control over an existing media drive on a fresh ubuntu install. The folder is located at /media/bigdrive I want to own it, be able to read write and execute..... i cant remember if its chmod or chown I know I have to use -R for recursive but I just cant remmeber the correct commands
[20:41] <kurisu> smw: but thanks for the suggestions... I'm sure it will help
[20:41] <klown> encrypt it, place it on dropbox, find a thumbdrive, and place it on a cd.  thats about as paranoid as I can get
[20:41] <tq> aguitel: i think it worked in 10.10 as i upgraded to 11.04 from a 10.10 install
[20:41] <kurisu> klown: pretty much what I want to do.... but I want to take the human (my) error out of the equation
[20:42] <robin0800> adam__: trr ctrl+c
[20:42] <aguitel> tq, what is the name of the branded touchpad?
[20:42] <adam__> robin: thanks lol
[20:42] <klown> kurisu,  then give up :P  there is always a chance to mess something up
[20:42] <kurisu> klown: im a bit forgetful... need all of my brainpower learning not remembering to backup
[20:42] <nmvictor> trism: think Im gonna have to log out then back in to commit the changes. C us soon.
[20:42] <aguitel> tq, lspci
[20:43] <kurisu> klown: give up?!?!?!  giive up what?
[20:43] <trism> nmvictor: probably just remove the ffmpeg package with the error, but if you want me to look closer, pastebin: head -n 22200 /var/lib/dpkg/status | tail -n 200;
[20:43] <kurisu> klown: my course or he backup system?
[20:43] <kurisu> the*
[20:43] <nmvictor> trism: ok
[20:43] <rahduke3> hello?
[20:43] <chicognu> shutdown is in fact rebooting my system IF and only IF my wireless network card is active.  How I report it as a bug ?
[20:44] <aguitel> tq, |this is my model:http://www.baidat.com.ar/images/productos/13G555.jpg
[20:44] <aguitel>
[20:44] <aguitel> Lenovo G560 (0679-BCY), Intel Pentium Dual Core P6200 2.13GHz, 15.6" HD LED, 2GB DDR3, 320GB, CDRW / DVDRW, Ethernet, WiFi, Webcam, Teclado Numèrico, Free DOS
[20:44] <klown> kurisu, I was kidding.  I'm not good at scripting or id help you out, but a script to encrypt the file, then check to see if its been encrypted (file with date is a good way) then move it to a dropbox folder on your system would work fine.
[20:44] <bullgard4> If I press F12 in Compiz Natty GNOME 2, the window having the focus will be surrounded by some kind of a gloriole. What is this supposed to mean?
[20:44] <tq> aguitel: under X it comes up as a SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad here
[20:45] <nmvictor> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626800/ their, see you in a min.
[20:45] <aguitel> tq, what is the video card?
[20:45] <rahduke3> yea so I just installed a new SSD, and did a fresh install of 11.04 so I have an existing drive i use for media.... I need to get permissions to read/write ect.... its located @ /media/bigdrive can anyone help me out with the command???
[20:46] <andai> vandemar: do dropbox employees snoop around user files when they are bored? :D
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> what is the difficulty measured in?
[20:47] <BooBood> eeeek, I did booboo
[20:47] <BooBood> someone help me here, im on here via liveCD.. I accidently deleted all my remaining kernels (only meant to remove 5) and now I cannot boot as normal
[20:47] <tq> aguitel: Intel Sandybridge- i915 i think
[20:47] <gnewb> bullgard4: Maybe here:>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/774870
[20:48] <ironicum> BooBood : chroot into your system and reinstall a kernel
[20:48] <usr13> BooBood: apt-cache search linux-image
[20:49] <oleja_UKRAINE> çäåñü åñòü Ðóññêèå áðàòüÿ??
[20:49] <oleja_UKRAINE> Ñëàâÿíå???
[20:49] <IdleOne> !ukraine
[20:49] <BooBood> ironicum: yea, its hardly a noob friendly thing that, have you read any decent tutorials?
[20:50] <nit-wit> oleja_UKRAINE, this is an english channel
[20:50] <ironicum> BooBood: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[20:50] <coz_> this is not ukranian   it doesn even make sense
[20:51] <jake> i updated Ubuntu to the newest update and it want make it run faster how should i do that with out uninstalling a bunch of stuff
[20:51] <BooBood> ironicum: and this will allow me to reinstall the kernels that I removed?
[20:51] <usr13> BooBood: mount #Will tell you where the filesystem is mounted.  Then just chroot to that mount point.  i.e.  chroot /mnt/sda2  #Where /mnt/sda2 is the actual mount point.
[20:51] <coz_> jake,  is this using Unity?
[20:52] <usr13> BooBood: sudo fdisk -l
[20:52] <BooBood> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# chroot /mnt/sda1 chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/sda1: No such file or directory
[20:52] <Rickdat> hey guys what are alternatives for itunes
[20:52] <Rickdat> like if i want to put music on my ipod?
[20:52] <usr13> BooBood: I just used /mnt/sda2 as an example, customize as needed.
[20:53] <gnewb> !ua | oleja_UKRAINE
[20:53] <jake> Is there a way i can find that out
[20:53] <coz_> rickbol,     http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/10-alternatives-to-itunes-for-managing-your-ipod/
[20:53] <nit-wit> BooBood, post sudo fdisk -l  per usr13
[20:53] <coz_> rickbol,  sorry
[20:53] <coz_> Rickdat,  http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/10-alternatives-to-itunes-for-managing-your-ipod/
[20:53] <usr13> BooBood: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:53] <Rickdat> is it okay if i just use rhythmbox, coz_?
[20:53] <BooBood>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sdb1   *           1        2554    20506624   83  Linux /dev/sdb2            2554       30402   223689729    5  Extended /dev/sdb5            2554       30151   221678592   83  Linux /dev/sdb6           30152       30402     2010112   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[20:54] <coz_> Rickdat,   sure  I dont see why not
[20:54] <usr13> BooBood: mount | pastebinit
[20:55] <anodesni> Hi, I want to play "ufo alien invasion", but when I click on the link here http://www.playdeb.net/software/UFO%20Alien%20Invasion it says it cannot find the package??
[20:55] <gnewb> !pastebin | BooBood
[20:55] <usr13> BooBood: (see where sdb1 is mounted)
[20:56] <BooBood> usr13: take this query please ? :)
[20:56] <DaiMoNuX> hi
[20:56] <hemika> Can anyone please help me? My wifi doesn't work after upgrading to 11.04
[20:56] <jake> How can i find what version of ubuntu i am running
[20:56] <BooBood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/626811/
[20:57] <edbian> jake: cat /etc/issue
[20:57] <anAngel> Hello. What software do you use to make bare-metal-restore backups of you machines/servers? Thanks
[20:57] <usr13> BooBood: sudo chroot /media/2c568980-b9c9-4ac9-91f4-f6ca9956e3f8
[20:58] <kernelpanicker> what's a good disk recovery application?
[20:58] <kernelpanicker> have a crashed disk that shows up under dev but can't be mounted
[20:58] <kurisu> kernelpanicker:dd
[20:58] <BooBood> usr13: ok did that
[20:58] <kernelpanicker> any gui tools?
[20:58] <gnewb> !backup | anAngel
[20:58] <BooBood> usr13: no error
[20:58] <usr13> BooBood: apt-cache search linux-image
[20:58] <nmvictor> trism: Im back, things look good after the revert but ofcource not perfect. I'll have to reconfigure my window manager. Well I tries the to install compiz-dev and landed on this :http://paste.ubuntu.com/626810/ the apt-cache policy compiz-dev libgl1-mesa-dev command is now reading as http://paste.ubuntu.com/626813/. Thanks for waiting
[20:58] <usr13> BooBood: apt-cache search linux-image | sbinit
[20:59] <usr13> BooBood: apt-cache search linux-image | pastebinit
[20:59] <anAngel> kernelpanicker: try dd and/or ddrescue
[20:59] <usr13> (first one was typo
[20:59] <gnewb> kernelpanicker: Have you tried DDrescue or the other hundred or more?
[20:59] <usr13> BooBood: What version of Ubuntu did you have installed?
[20:59] <trism> nmvictor: can you try installing libgl1-mesa-dev and pastebin the output if it fails
[20:59] <jake> Ok i am using 11.04 and i am trying to figure a way to run my system fast with out un-installing many programs so how could i do that
[21:00] <BooBood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/626815/ usr13 it is 10.10
[21:00] <kurisu> jake: get a ffaster PC :-P
[21:00] <wntKissAnyAss> gentoo.de they block and ping-overflows unwanted people in irc
[21:01] <Pici> wntKissAnyAss: That has nothing to do with this channel.
[21:01] <kurisu> jake: just kidding, is it a new system? fresh install?
[21:01] <gnewb> jake: Laptop or Desktop?
[21:01] <jake> Laptop and its a few years old
[21:01] <wntKissAnyAss> Pici: exact!
[21:01] <jake> like 2 or 3
[21:01] <kurisu> pastebin lshw output
[21:02] <nmvictor> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626817/ . It failed!
[21:02] <gnewb> jake: Which 'flavor' are you using now?
[21:02] <kurisu> 11.04 needs decent hardware
[21:02] <jake> How would i be able to find the 'flavor'?
[21:02] <trism> nmvictor: apt-cache policy mesa-common-dev
[21:02] <hemika> hello, can anyone please help me? I have just upgraded to 11.04 and my wifi doesn't work. I have dell studio
[21:02] <usr13> BooBood: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic
[21:03] <jake> Or how would i be able to find that type of info out
[21:03] <gnewb> jake: Like Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu?
[21:03] <sedenion> hi !
[21:03] <sedenion> i can't find glibconfig.h in ubuntu 11.04
[21:03] <marcus__> hola
[21:03] <Guest88612> is there an up-date coming out soon?
[21:03] <marcus__> what is a good pdf reader for ubuntu that is equivalent or better than acrobat?
[21:04] <XOXO1> acroread
[21:04] <usr13> jake: lsb_release -a
[21:04] <jake> I believe it is either Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[21:04] <XOXO1> marcus__: sudo apt-get install acroread
[21:04] <nmvictor> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626820/
[21:04] <marcus__> acroread huh
[21:04] <marcus__> ok
[21:04] <BooBood> usr13: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? (have tried update)
[21:04] <gnewb> marcus__: I use Evince, there are many.
[21:04] <jake> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:04] <jake> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[21:04] <jake> Release:	11.04
[21:05] <io> jake: run that command in a !terminal and it'll tell you what you're running. also you might want to look at !xubuntu
[21:05] <iridium> marcus__, isn't evince the default?
[21:05] <dr_Lao> better than acrobat?
[21:05] <gnewb> jake: Ok, you say is an older Laptop?
[21:05] <usr13> BooBood: sudo apt-get install -f
[21:05]  * jqke test
[21:05] <jake> 2 or 3 years older
[21:05] <anAngel> gnewb: thanks for the reply
[21:06] <trism> nmvictor: very strange, I would say next try to install mesa-common-dev and see what that error is, but you may want to install aptitude and try to install compiz-dev, see what the error with: sudo aptitude install compiz-dev; it sometimes gives better error messages during conflicts
[21:06] <gnewb> anAngel: You are very welcome.
[21:06] <aeon-ltd> with linux ati drivers getting better and better is it worth buying a ati card for linux only?
[21:06] <usr13> BooBood: sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[21:06] <kernelpanicker> anAngel: dd is too much to learn right now...
[21:07] <kernelpanicker> gnewb: is ddrescue a commandline tool?
[21:07] <iridium> aeon-ltd, if you plan stay out of wine, yes
[21:07] <jake> And its not just when i log in its even the Internet is running slow when I have 4 to 5 bars
[21:07] <gnewb> jake: Do you like or prefer Flashy , high graphics or do you want straight performance at little or few resources used?
[21:07] <BooBood> usr13: Errors were encountered while processing:  python-distutils-extra E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:08] <anAngel> kernelpanicker: ddrescue is a command line
[21:08] <nmvictor> trism: sure, i'll go straight to that. I have aptitude installed. And just to help, in the apt-cahce policy compiz-dev, I see versions form natty-updates and natty/main. Does that ring a bell? Just to help a bit.
[21:08] <usr13> BooBood: lsb_release -a
[21:08] <gnewb> kernelpanicker: I think it is GUI and/or CLI, let me look again, I have used it a few times with some success.
[21:08] <jake> As much as i need is it to run videos and the games on like face book otherwise no oh and beable to watch movies and thats it
[21:08] <trism> nmvictor: yes, that is correct, compiz was just updated recently
[21:08] <BooBood> usr13: it is maverick 10.10
[21:09] <hemika> Can anyone pleas help me?
[21:09] <usr13> BooBood: df
[21:09] <gnewb> jake: Have you looked at the other Versions?
[21:09] <hemika> My wifi ain't working after upgrading 11.04
[21:09] <BooBood> usr13: df?
[21:09] <usr13> BooBood: df | pastebinit #and send resulting url
[21:09] <Psydoll> hemika: are you sure its not switched off?
[21:10] <bullgard4> gnewb: Thank you for directing my attention to those 2 Launchpad bug reports. My bug is a similar one. As I have seen, there is no solution found yet.
[21:10] <gnewb> jake: Have you tried Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
[21:10] <nmvictor> trism: while apt-cache policy for libgl1-mesa-dev and mesa-common-dev do not point any referednce to natty-updates, instead they point to versions from natty/main. My point is , could the natty-updates repository the cause of all this?
[21:10] <BooBood> usr13:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/626823/
[21:10] <hemika> Psydoll,yes i am sure it ain't switched off because i have windows 7 also, and it works perfectly fine on it
[21:10] <jake> Well i did have the maverick 10.10 and that ran smoothly then in the ubuntu softwear update it had me update to this natty
[21:10] <pythonirc1012> where is the setting in ubuntu that disconnects ssh/scp after some time? How can i increase it to 15 minutes or more?
[21:10] <jake> xubuntu i think i have
[21:11] <BernardV> hemika: I'm not in a very good mood so forgive me (and I'm on a train so the connection isn't stable), what did you try? Is the wifi adapter available or is it a password you have to fill in or ...?
[21:11] <gnewb> bullgard4: You are very welcome, I saw that also, still looking though...
[21:11] <Algorith> Is it possible to access full-screen applications (like ocular and impress) through alt+tab? in 11.04
[21:11] <iridium> hemika, there are a common issue with atheros driver for many netbooks, notebooks, is well know
[21:11] <iridium> but I'm not sure if it was fixed in the latest kernel update
[21:12] <nit-wit> hemika, poat the card find it with this command.  sudo fdisk -l
[21:12] <nmvictor> trism: Here is a little bit more verbose output from aptitude: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626826/
[21:12] <jake> Well i did have the maverick 10.10 and that ran smoothly then in the ubuntu softwear update it had me update to this natty
[21:12] <nit-wit> hemika, wrong command sorry this one lspci | grep VGA
[21:13] <jake> xubuntu i think i have
[21:13] <hemika> BernardV, it doesn't shows the Wifi in the list.
[21:13] <giulio> ciaso
[21:13] <hemika> iridium, it used to work perfectly fine with 10.10
[21:13] <trism> nmvictor: yes, that is a much better error, you have another ppa with the libdrm packages, that seems to be the one causing the issues
[21:13] <usr13> BooBood: Did you recently do a distribution upgrade?
[21:14] <BernardV> hemika: But you can access the possible accesspoints in your GUI?
[21:14] <hemika> nit-wit, you want to know the wireless card i am using?
[21:14] <nmvictor> trism: name it
[21:14] <iridium> hemika, yes, in fact is only happening on 11.04
[21:14] <BooBood> usr13: no there has been no upgrades
[21:14] <hemika> BernardV, right now i am connected using LAM
[21:14] <hemika> LAN*
[21:14] <nit-wit> hemika, yes that is the most importatnt part.
[21:14] <usr13> BooBood: sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:14] <trism> nmvictor: I don't know which one, try apt-cache policy libdrm2
[21:14] <gnewb> jake: Xubuntu is known to be very lightweight, my opinion is the Lubuntu performs better, but please check your hardware and such to find the best match.
[21:14] <hemika> nit-wit, 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)
[21:15] <hemika> iridium, any solution to this one?
[21:15] <BooBood> usr13: it will not let me past that last error
[21:15] <dr_Lao> iridium?
[21:16] <nmvictor> trism: strange: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626828/
[21:16] <hemika> iridium, i installed b43-fwcutter and b43 as well and deactivated the broadcom STA wireless driver from the additonal drivers, still doesn't work
[21:16] <aeon-ltd> iridium: so hardware accel should be good as nvidia soon enough? just no gaming in linux :)
[21:16] <jake> Yeah maverick 10.10 Is what i had before i accidentally installed the 11.04 version is there a way to uninstall the natty and go back to maverick?
[21:17] <iridium> hemika, not the same then, but 11.04 seems quite fault to the wifi side
[21:18] <trism> nmvictor: seems you already removed the ppa for it, but the packages are still there, try: sudo apt-get install libdrm2=2.4.23-1ubuntu6 libdrm-intel1=2.4.23-1ubuntu6 libdrm-radeon1=2.4.23-1ubuntu6;
[21:18] <usr13> BooBood: Just a sec.
[21:18] <nmvictor> jake: Unless you had Maverick remastered in a DVD, you gotta brace for a clean install of Maverick. A dist-downgrade is hardly enough
[21:18] <BooBood> usr13: okay
[21:18] <everamzah> how to make mouse polling rate persistent?  /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/mousepoll
[21:18] <jimmy51_> i added a script to my startup using  update-rc.d zzzPostBootScript defaults 99 01.  i chmod'd the script +x and put it in init.d directory.
[21:19] <jimmy51_> it did not launch.  what log should i check to see what happened?
[21:19] <hemika> nit-wit, hemika@hemika-Studio-1558:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[21:19] <hemika> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500 Series]
[21:19] <nmvictor> trism: its downgrading them
[21:20] <iridium> aeon-ltd, the point is that AMD has a extremely small team for linux, and their drivers are flaky
[21:20] <trism> nmvictor: excellent, that should probably fix the issue unless there are other hidden problems, you can likely install compiz-dev after it is done
[21:20] <usr13> BooBood: sudo mkdir /mnt/dev
[21:20] <jake> Ok, thanks if i dist-downgrade will it go back to that version, but it won't wipe the whole natty version right?
[21:20] <nmvictor> ... and compiz-dev is now installing. THANKS alot man, YOU MADE MY NIGHT. lOVE YOU
[21:21] <trism> nmvictor: you're welcome, glad it is working
[21:21] <BooBood> usr13: done
[21:21] <thesheff17> ;;bc,stats
[21:21] <sofakng> anybody familiar with upstart?  how can I have my script wait for a kernel module to be loaded before starting?
[21:21] <iridium> aeon-ltd, and they are constantly  droping support of not so old graphic cards, leaving their linux users with only the option of open source drivers
[21:21] <thesheff17> sorry wrong room.
[21:21] <nit-wit> hemika, this is an area I know little about as all my cards have autoworked, but getting more information beats help me.
[21:22] <hemika> nit-wit, okay no problem thanks!
[21:22] <usr13> BooBood: A series of commands:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/626843/
[21:22] <nmvictor> trism: so the problem might have seemed like a hoax initially(is compiz-dev installable in Natty?) but you've witnessed that it was really something, right?
[21:22] <abountu> how can I cd into a directory whos name starts with a "-"  (without quotes)
[21:23] <nmvictor> trism: so how far with the ffmpeg thingy?
[21:23] <usr13> BooBood: Ignore line 2  (typo)
[21:23] <BooBood> usr13: I see :)
[21:23] <trism> nmvictor: I messed up the command for that earlier, it wasn't in the pastebin, apt-cache show ffmpeg may be enough though
[21:24] <ironicum> abountu cd -- "-foldername"
[21:24] <nmvictor> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626845/
[21:25] <abountu> ironicum thanks!
[21:25] <everamzah> how to set mouse polling rate? and make setting persistent ??
[21:25] <BooBood> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626846/
[21:26] <usr13> BooBood: apt-get -f install
[21:26] <usr13> BooBood: sudo  apt-get -f install
[21:27] <BooBood> usr13: same :S
[21:27] <tigerplug292> just wondering what is the best way to dual boot XP with ubuntu - Ubuntu is already installed. I have gparted and allocated 10GB of free unpartitioned space. Last time I tried to install XP on it, it said that it wanted to write to the EXT partition also and wrecked my grub, also left me without a windows install
[21:27] <usr13> BooBood: See your mistake?  (And mine too...?)  forgot sudo
[21:27] <BooBood> i am running on root anyway?
[21:28] <usr13> BooBood: Oh, I see.. hummm... Well, I dono then.
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> iridium: hmm imma gonna search some more
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> iridium: thanks for all the info
[21:28] <BooBood> usr13: thats cool, thanks and I appreciate your time :D
[21:28] <dijonyummy> can anyone help? i mounted an ntfs drive/partition in fstab like "/dev/sda1	/mnt/2tb_drive	fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions", seemed to work fine, but when i rebooted, i can no longer mount in linux. also under dual boot windows, the drive use to be M: but now its D:. weird. at least i can see it under windows7. but under linux i cant see it anymore, nor mount. somthing weird happened. did i m
[21:28] <dijonyummy> ount it correctly before? any ideas? i can still see it with fdisk -l, but cant mount. also when i try to view the /mnt folder it just hangs in nautilus, or ls in /mnt it just hangs.
[21:28] <trism> nmvictor: seems like it was a package you built from source with checkinstall but have since removed, but not purged, can you pastebin: dpkg -l '*ffmpeg*'
[21:28] <`marianne`> hiya, i've got a bit of a problem with my shiny new graphics card... basically it's giving utterly crap performance with the official ati drivers
[21:28] <usr13> BooBood: But it says "cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[21:28] <usr13> ???
[21:29] <BooBood> usr13:  yes
[21:29] <dijonyummy> i get this error trying to mount -a : wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[21:29] <guntbert> !noroot | BooBood
[21:30] <dr_Lao> !root
[21:30] <BooBood> wtf is guntbert on about lol
[21:30] <nmvictor> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626852/
[21:30] <guntbert> !language | BooBood 1)
[21:30] <usr13> BooBood: dpkg -reconfigure python-distutils-extra
[21:31] <trism> nmvictor: okay, good, this may be easy, try: sudo aptitude purge ffmpeg;
[21:31] <BooBood> !miserable guntbert
[21:31] <heslam> hey guys. i'm trying to upload things to my ubuntu server over SFTP but it's giving me permission denied. the permissions are drwxr-xr-x. is that wrong?
[21:31] <guntbert> BooBood: 2) don't run as root and especially don't advertise/recommend it
[21:31] <dijonyummy> how to fix a "bad superblock" in case thats the problem
[21:31] <guntbert>  BooBood 3) stay polite
[21:31] <BooBood> guntbert: i know the risks, thanks for the reminder