[22:08] <Dr_Willis> the winetricks tool can setup .net i think in wine
[22:08] <savio> I really struggling with this androirc can anyone suggest an good client for irc
[22:08] <esben> Some configuration is obviously bugged from canonicals side...
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> savio:  for ubuntu?
[22:08] <dcosta> any one use Lirc arround here ?
[22:08] <harris> how do i install exe using wine tricks
[22:08] <Meris> Dr_Willis, only on 32 bits OS'es and who in his/ her right mind runs 32 bits OS'es these days?
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> harris:  you dont. winetricks is a special tool for wine to configure/install stuff  not install arbitary exes
[22:09] <harris> i just want to use it
[22:09] <savio> Dr_Willis for an android
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> savio:  i use andchat on my phone i recall. or ssh/weechat  :)
[22:10] <Meris> harris, it *might* help you to install dotnet, but only if you are using a 32 bits wine prefix.
[22:10] <Ansikt> My machine will not boot and I am absolutely at my wits end :(
[22:10] <dcosta> any one use lirc arround here ? the tv infra red software
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> savio:  theres a weechat-client for android that connets to weechat on you linux box also
[22:10] <Ansikt> dcosta !ask
[22:10] <Ansikt> Oh, I guess this channel doesn't do that.
[22:11] <harris> when i run wine /home/harris/Downloads/ClashofClansHack.exe
[22:11] <harris> i get
[22:11] <savio> Ansikt give more detail
[22:11] <harris> wine: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[22:11] <Ansikt> savio: working on it.
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> wow.. that clash of clans hacker tool.. wants you to do 'things' befor it will even download... that just screams  at you to not trust it
[22:11] <dcosta> i got a pinacle internal tv card cant get remote control working i read a lot a manuals but no one seems to work
[22:12] <Biomechd> i accidentally set my font-rendering to root-only in the terminal with something like "sudo chmod 644 -f /usr/share/fonts*", how do i change it back?
[22:12] <harris> no some other sites dont have surveys but i need it
[22:12] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, yes we have noticed that hours ago
[22:12] <dcosta> im using 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:15:33 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[22:12] <ericluwolf> Biomechd, can you open up a virtual console and then sudo chmod the permissions back?
[22:12] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: what's the user code?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> OerHeks:  more im looking at it.. the more it seems to be just malware..
[22:12] <Ansikt> In any case, I uninstalled windows from sda1, and now grub won't start.  That's fairly normal, I figure, so I boot a live USB and install/run boot-repair.  Boot repair claims that the action was successful, but upon reboot I still get greeted with the NO OPERATING SYSTEM FOUND message.  But wait, there's more
[22:13] <johnjohn1011> harris: are you using the 1.5.x version of wine perhaps?
[22:13] <harris> http://www.cheatsoffuture.com/clash-of-clans-hack-tool/
[22:13] <Meris> Dr_Willis, a dotnet install is not that suspicious, it's a plague these days.Dotnet40 install won't work at all. Even winetricks says so.
[22:13] <harris> how do i find out
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  no.. the site its on is suspicious..
[22:13] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, please do not suggest him to run as root :P
[22:13] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: 644 or whatever i originally entered is obviously root. what's the default user?
[22:13] <alien2050> Ansikt: do you do a grub-install to the drive?
[22:13] <Meris> Dr_Willis, I don't argue with that :-)
[22:13] <dcosta> Ansikt,  can you help me ?
[22:13] <harris> when i search wine in the dash i only get configute and uninstall
[22:13] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: let me check on my machine
[22:13] <alien2050> Ansikt: usually works
[22:14] <savio> Ansikt try chroot method
[22:14] <randy_> Hey everyone
[22:14] <randy_> what's happening tonight?
[22:14] <johnjohn1011> what up rando?
[22:15] <randy_> doing good
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> choose one of the offers to download.... yea..   thats soo  1990s
[22:15] <Meris> harris, if you really want to run it, it *might* just run in a VirtualBox install of a suitable Windows version. if you have a spare Windows license laying around that allows you to install it into a virtual machine.
[22:15] <Ansikt> So, I try this again to no avail.  So, thinking that because my entire linux setup was encased in an extended volume (Windows took three partitions D;) maybe that screwed with my boot.  Whatever.  I download super-grub-disk and boot into the host machine and try running grub-update, grub-install and boot-repair from there.  Again, my machine gives me no love.
[22:15] <alien2050> Ansikt: from the liveusb, I usually do sudo mkdir /1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /1 (where sda1 is your linux partition, then sudo grub-install --root-directory=/1 then reboot, bingo
[22:15] <randy_> have a quick question
[22:15] <randy_> i got fluendo dvd player on 13.04
[22:15] <dcosta> !ASK
[22:15] <dcosta> !ask
[22:15] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: it's 755 on my machine
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> Meris:  i really like how the site has a big 'Protected by the DMCA'  Icon on it..
[22:16] <randy_> i get "Could not get/set settings from/on resource" with fluendo dvd player on 13.04
[22:16] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: and how do i open a virtual terminal?
[22:16] <harris> i have wine 1.4.1
[22:17] <Meris> Dr_Willis, yes, that is really assuring, that. Hmmprfff >_<
[22:17] <Ansikt> So, from here I am really perplexed.  So, I make the Ubuntu live usb again.  This time, I use parted to make a ~10 gig primary partition at the beginning of the disk.  I checked the partition and install Ubuntu 12.10 in it.  So, I reboot my machine and NO OPERATING SYSTEM greets me.
[22:17] <dcosta> any one have lirc working ?
[22:17] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: Ctrl + Alt + F1
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> Ansikt, From the desktop you would run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  X is the mbr of the hd then run sudo update grub
[22:18] <Ansikt> wilee-nilee:  I tried that.
[22:18] <RainbowW> i'm looking at h.u.c/10.04/serverguide/openvpn.html ... i've installed openvpn, created keys, massaged the configuration, and i want to start the daemon ... but init.d/openvpn was not installed. what did i miss?
[22:18] <Meris> dcosta, there might be a separate #lirc channel here, if the project is still actively maintained
[22:19] <CarlFK> after I edit  /etc/grub.d/25_ipxe, what  to I run to regenerate grub.cfg?
[22:19] <Ansikt> At this point I would just reinstall the whole damn thing, but I've got an encrypted home and there's some sensitive data that I haven't backed up yet.  *sigh*
[22:19] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: so do i log in as root or just my normal user?
[22:19] <savio> Ansikt check your hard drive cable i get the same problem while back
[22:20] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: actually never mind
[22:20] <LiquidDemocracy> I just did a release upgrade and now I can not log into the GUI anymore because my /boot has 0 bytes left. With what command can I completely purge old kernels?
[22:20] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: your normal user should suffice. Then sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/share/fonts
[22:20] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: And then to get back to a GUI, just Ctrl + Alt + F7
[22:20] <dcosta> Meris,  im there also no one answer
[22:20] <Ansikt> savio:  I might as well give it a shot, but again, I CAN still access the harddrive.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> Ansikt, This a wubi install?
[22:21] <Jeena_> betrayd got it working nicely with wmctrl, thank you so much for your help!
[22:21] <davidscherer> I just did an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 via the Update Manager and after the reboot part I'm stuck at the loading screen right before the last dot.
[22:21] <randy_> Rainbow: I installed openvpn package on 12.04 server and it was fine
[22:21] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, uninstall them tru softwarecenter/synaptic
[22:21] <Ansikt> wilee-nilee:  Nope.  /home is native ext4 and / is ext2, both on an extended partition.
[22:21] <Brittany> Hey guys. I'm running a piece of software through Wine. It works very well, but unfortunately, in areas such as menus and drop down boxes, no text is displayed. it is a blank list. Any idea how I can get this kinda text to display, guys?
[22:21] <Meris> Dr_Willis, look a bit further on the same page: "Diablo III server emulator"....Right. <grin>
[22:21] <LiquidDemocracy> OerHeks, I can not get into the GUI. Please see what I wrote above.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, try nomodeset
[22:22] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, oh wrong, with 0 bytes left, did you get an error upgrading?
[22:22] <LiquidDemocracy> After entering the password on the login page it will jump right back to the login page.
[22:22] <LiquidDemocracy> OerHeks, yes
[22:22] <RainbowW> why would apt-get not install a file in /etc/init.d/ if it's in the package? i don't understand why this script hasn't installed.
[22:22] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: How?
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | davidscherer
[22:22] <randy_> Rainbow: I'm not sure either.
[22:23] <LiquidDemocracy> There are 6 old kernels. How can I delete them? sudo apt-get purge vmlinuz-3-0.0-14 ?
[22:24] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, there is a one-liner > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098490&page=2&p=12426110#post12426110
[22:24] <chomwitt> in a fresh install of 12.04 LTS from dvd should i see an option to upgrade to latest point release?
[22:24] <chomwitt> should-> shouldnt
[22:24] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: Should I hard reboot then? I can't get ALT + SysReq + REISUB does not work.
[22:25] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, or the same line, only with dpkg > http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[22:25] <LiquidDemocracy> OerHeks, thx but is there a shorter version to delete one particular one?
[22:26] <randy_> Any idea what "Could not get/set settings from/on resource" means with fluendo dvd player on 13.04?  It worked on 12.04 no problem
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> chomwitt:  lts releases will ask to upgrade to the next lts release. unless you check some setting to tell them to upgrade to any newer releases.
[22:27] <scumbum> harris: did you get mono installed
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Can you alt-f1 to the tty and reboot, or just shutdown with the poer button if you are just stuck.
[22:27] <harris> no
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> power*
[22:27] <Ansikt> So, yeah.  I'm going to go try to check my harddrive cable.  Any other suggestions, folks?
[22:29] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: the command you gave me didn't work. i'm still seeing boxes.
[22:29] <betrayd> Jeena_: thats good news !
[22:29] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: Did you try changing the font in your terminal itself? Perhaps that will fix it.
[22:29] <ronit> how to identify my wireless card
[22:30] <randy_> ronit: lspci if it's a pci card; lsusb -v if it's attached to usb
[22:31] <ronit> neeed help
[22:31] <Meris> It's been nice here Gotta go, have fun using Ubuntu
[22:31] <ronit> randy_ ty
[22:32] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: i'm wondering if i got the directory wrong. i think i recall something about truetype in the directory path when i messed it up.
[22:32] <harris> no
[22:33] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: do you remember what exactly you did and where you were on your filesystem to cause the fault?
[22:33] <scumbum> harris: try SUDO APT-GET INSTALL MONO-COMPLETE
[22:35] <harris> i already did that sc
[22:35] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: i'd look at my browser history so i could give you the exact link and commands i ran, but i'm still having this font problem.
[22:35] <harris> scumbum,
[22:35] <paul137> anyone familiar with openssh?
[22:36] <scumbum> harris: did mono install
[22:37] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: i have a fresh intallation and as i see from lsb-release it must be 12.04.0 . But the update-manager show no new packages to downoload or a point-release new message.
[22:37] <Guest5643> ciao
[22:37] <Guest5643> !list
[22:38] <harris> no
[22:38] <paul137> been battling file sharing between to ubuntu computers with openssh
[22:39] <paul137> does computer with server need a private ip to connect to it?
[22:40] <ronit> how to install wireless driver 802.11 linux sta
[22:40] <harris> scumbum, no
[22:40] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: I don't know then. I wish I could help you but I need to know what you did before corrupting your terminal...
[22:40] <ronit> how to install wireless driver 802.11 linux sta  in terminal
[22:41] <troulouliou_dev> hi si there anybody using gnome 3.8 on 13.04 ? is it stable ?
[22:41] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: maybe i just have the file directory wrong. what command can i use to see all the folders in a directory?
[22:41] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: ls -l
[22:42] <harris> scumbum, well
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> chomwitt:  just do a sudo apt-get update,. and sudo apt-get upgrade and see what happens
[22:43] <davidscherer> Okay, I have no idea where to set nomodeset adding to the end of GRUB didn't work, but I was able to boot in and run update manager and it says 13.04 is available, should I upgrade to that?
[22:43] <scumbum> harris: do u have winetricks installed
[22:43] <harris> yes
[22:43] <davidscherer> Additionally, I can't really do anything.
[22:43] <davidscherer> I had to use Ctrl+Alt+T to get a terminal to rub update-manager
[22:44] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: when i try to access the /usr/share folder from the terminal, it says the directory doesn't exist,even though it shows up with "ls -l"
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Not without a update and upgrade within the install, that might fix any problems.
[22:44] <davidscherer> And I keep getting Ubuntu has experienced and internal error, and show details just shows /usr/bin/cairo-dock and a loading circle
[22:45] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: are you trying to cd to the directory or do a chmod on it
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, That is apport reporting, tick the ignore in the popup.
[22:45] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: Update manager says I'm up to date but I'm running 12.10 and 13.04 is available.
[22:45] <Biomechd> ericluwolf: i'm trying to cd to it so i can navigate the folders and make sure i have the directory right for chmod
[22:45] <harris> scumbum, yes
[22:45] <Ansikt> So, I just opened up my laptop's case, unscrewed the harddrive took it out, reinserted it, and then put the whole thing back together.  No luck.
[22:46] <ericluwolf> Biomechd: make sure you're typing the absolute path
[22:46] <davidscherer> And I can't seem to actually get the GUI working completely,
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, So in details what is the problem.
[22:46] <davidscherer> I have a background image, but no taskbar at the top.
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, When you upgrade a release you generally have to reinstall graphic divers if you had to install them in the privious OS.
[22:47] <randy_> davidscherer: is this 13.04?
[22:47] <scumbum> harris: is their options in winetrick to install mono or net framework
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> 12.10
[22:47] <harris> how do i open wine tricks
[22:48] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: /usr/bin/cairo-doc and it says it crashed with sigsegv
[22:48] <davidscherer> randy_: 12.10 from 12.04
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, cairo crashes in my 13.04 so I would just use it if it works honestly.
[22:49] <davidscherer> Also "Application compiz crashed unexpectedly"
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> harris:  http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, I never upgrade releases, you might try a live cd of what you want and see if it runs.
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Or make another user and see how it runs.
[22:50] <scumbum> harris: look for winetricks in applications
[22:50] <harris> i opened it
[22:50] <harris> where do i look
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> If using Unity harris , you can just type 'winetricks' into the serc box../ or just run winetricks from a terminal
[22:51] <harris> i did
[22:51] <harris> its running
[22:51] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: thanks. i'll try
[22:52] <harris> i dont know where to look for install mono
[22:52] <kennettAZ> I updated my system and rebooted and now the system won't load. I'm not sure what version of Ubuntu Server I'm running.
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> kennettAZ, And you feel that is enough info to get help? ;)
[22:53] <scumbum> Try to install that exe from winetricks. It may install mono
[22:53] <kennettAZ> Sorry I wasn't sure what all to put in.
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> winetricks may have a button/option to install mono also
[22:54] <harris> ok im installing mono 2.10.8
[22:54] <scumbum> harris: how old R you
[22:54] <davidscherer> Okay, It looks like Gnome shell is working, but Ubuntu Default doesn't work.
[22:55] <harris> 16
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Do you know the graphic /chip/card?
[22:56] <scumbum> harris: how did u finnally get mono
[22:56] <harris> its loading
[22:56] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: ATI
[22:56] <harris> i mean downloading
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, lspci in the terminal will tell you exactly.
[22:57] <kennettAZ> wilee-nilee, I'm new to Linux so I'm not sure what all info is needed.
[22:57] <scumbum> harris: how did you get mono to download
[22:57] <harris> threw the winetricks
[22:57] <CiscoNinja> hello i installed GNS3 from binary , how can i uninstall it please?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> CiscoNinja:  from binary.. meaning how exactly
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | kennettAZ at least the release and details
[22:58] <davidscherer> wilee-nilee: AMD ATI RS88
[22:58] <CiscoNinja> Dr_Willis, tar zxvf <filename> , etc
[22:58] <davidscherer> RS**0*
[22:58] <davidscherer> Sight
[22:58] <davidscherer> RS880***
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> CiscoNinja:  tar just exracts the contents.. if it had an Installer script.. see if it has an uninstaller script.
[22:59] <CiscoNinja> Dr_Willis, ok, thank you will do
[22:59] <KamranMackey> hey guys
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> davidscherer, Does any of this look familiar? http://askubuntu.com/questions/78906/ati-amd-proprietary-fglrx-graphics-install-fails-how-can-i-resolve-the-problem
[23:01] <kennettAZ> wilee-nilee, I forgot what release it's running but I think it's Ubuntu Server 12.04 and when I try to boot the system I just get a blinking -
[23:02] <scumbum> harris: you get tha
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> kennettAZ, #ubuntu-server maybe
[23:02] <scumbum> harris: you get the exe going yet
[23:02] <harris> yes
[23:03] <tannji> David: that purge remove fglrx set of commands worked for me
[23:03] <kennettAZ> wilee-nilee OK sorry.
[23:03] <scumbum> Harris
[23:03] <harris> yes
[23:04] <scumbum> harris: able to run r
[23:04] <scumbum> Exe
[23:04] <KamranMackey> hello?
[23:04] <KamranMackey> anyone there?
[23:04] <harris> yes
[23:04] <KamranMackey> hi harris
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> 1677 people here KamranMackey
[23:04] <harris> hi
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> minus the bots. ;)
[23:05] <scumbum> harris: does it run
[23:05] <harris> yes
[23:05] <scumbum> Cool
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  now it will haxxor his account. ;)
[23:05] <KamranMackey> Yeah I just had to switch to a different server on freenode :)
[23:06] <scumbum> Dr_Willis: lol trojan spyware virus jey
[23:07] <scumbum> Keylogger
[23:07] <scumbum> Allinone
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> we can only hope, lol
[23:07] <Unspeakable> Read it: http://www.unspeakable.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  they make those easier to install
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> Unspeakable:  and thats ubuntu related? or are you just spamming?
[23:08] <MartynKeigher> hey i want to install a bot my ubuntu server that will record chat log of my IRC room. any suggestions/recommendations?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  most irc clients have logging support.
[23:08] <MartynKeigher> sadly bnc4free arent being very supportive.
[23:08] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: i just thought you might be interested to know i fixed my server machine, did it from the recovery console on the debian wheezy netinstall disc :)
[23:09] <MartynKeigher> and my client wont be on 24/7 unlike my room.
[23:09] <scumbum> At the least he probably sent download link in email. Spam fills inbox
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  then whats going to be running the bnc thing?
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> tinfoil hat spam lol
[23:10] <MartynKeigher> i have an acocunt with bnc4free and i connect to freenode channels via it. i was wanted setup a bot on my channel to log the chat and present it on a website.
[23:11] <MartynKeigher> if i need to install a bot on my ubuntu server to do it and connect it to my channel that way...then thats fine.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  you could just run your own znc server on your machine and let it log.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> MartynKeigher:  or a client.. I dont know what bnc4free does..
[23:11] <MartynKeigher> on my ubuntu server?
[23:12] <bleemoo> Question about upgrading. I am currently running 12.10. I'm not a huge fan of Unity, and getting Gnome to work in 12.10 was complicated at best. I know Ubuntu-GNOME is now an official flavor; is there a way I can upgrade directly to it, or is that only an option on a new install??
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> bleemoo:  just install gnome shell and select it at the login screen
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> I had no issues geting gnome shell working on 12.10
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> thought it was rather trivial...
[23:14] <bleemoo> That was the advice I got for 12.10, and it worked but was messy and buggier than it should be. Or maybe GNOME is just inherently buggier than I think it is.
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> bleemoo:  no idea what you did.. but i dont recall hearing of many people with issues running gnome-shell on 12.10
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> if you want the latest gnome shell you will want to be using 13.04 however
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> never had problems with the shell form 12.04 to 13.04
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> from*
[23:16] <tannji> so far 13.04 is running fine, and Unity is noticeably smoother as well.
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> good additions in the 13.04 shell
[23:16] <bleemoo> *shrug* Perhaps I installed it wrong. Things like I can't right-click on icons in the menu bar anymore have been frustrating.
[23:16] <tannji> on a related note: Just realized I havent logged into win7 in 3 weeks... lol
[23:17] <alien2050> tannji: I definitely would call that good news
[23:17] <tannji> lol, well... its all relative... I also stopped trying to make amd drivers work 3 weeks ago  = )
[23:17] <scumbum> bleemoo: are u talking about gnome 2 or gnome 3
[23:19] <bleemoo> Uh... I'm not sure.
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> well its time to clarify what you mean then.... ;)
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> its a HUGE detail
[23:19] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: ok. it turned out that i have a problem with my internet connection.
[23:20] <tannji><EMAIL_ADDRESS> nitpicky!
[23:20] <chomwitt> Dr_Willis: now update-manager list all the 500MB of updates :-)
[23:21] <Stameni> were there any updates since official relese of ubuntu 13.04 ?
[23:21] <Stameni> whenever i check, there are no updates available
[23:23] <DarkEra> Stameni, i think not, so don't worry about it
[23:23] <scumbum> bleemoo: mate or cinnamon seem better
[23:23] <Stameni> DarkEra,  tnx, i was thinking that something is wrong with my packages
[23:24] <DarkEra> Stameni, the update manager will pop up once updates are available
[23:24] <bleemoo> scumbum: "seem better" is pretty subjective; what about them is better?
[23:25] <scumbum> bleemoo: we could start flaming war like comparing KDE GNOME etc etc...
[23:25] <DarkEra> Stameni, also, most of the time after the final release there are just a few updates and sometimes not :)
[23:25] <bleemoo> I have no desire to do that at all.
[23:25] <Stameni> DarkEra, tnx for the explanation
[23:26] <DarkEra> you're welcome
[23:26] <bleemoo> But I do want a GUI that I will be happy with and that will work with my non-touch-screen device and for my non-admin skillset.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> for low end or old skool type gui - its hard to beat lubuntu
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> for somthing more mondern gnome-shell  is comming along nicely. unity in 13.10 is also getting more polished all the time
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> havent really noticed whats new in kde in 13.10
[23:27] <johnjohn1011> lubuntu is less resource intensive than xubuntu?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> johnjohn1011:  yes.
[23:27] <OerHeks> Kubuntu takes less resources than unity.
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/see-whats-new-in-kubuntu-1304-raring.html   whats new in Kubuntu ;)
[23:27] <scumbum> bleemoo: install them all. I think cinamon is easiest to install. If any ask to change display mannager. Do not. Keep lightdm. My thoughts best for dual monitor login window
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Gnome-shell is officially (some time in the future) adding its own gnome-2 fallback type mode.. so once that happens these gnome-2 forks may go away
[23:29] <sz_alex> helo
[23:29] <sz_alex> hello
[23:29] <bleemoo> Install more than one GUI? That... actually makes a lot of sense; I'm not sure why I didn't think of it before now. Thanks.
[23:29] <harris> from running wine /home/harris/Downloads/Clash
[23:29] <harris> err:module:import_dll Library MSVBVM60.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\harris\\Downloads\\Clash.exe") not found
[23:29] <harris> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\harris\\Downloads\\Clash.exe" failed, status c0000135
[23:30] <scumbum> Hare
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> harris:  use the winetricks tool to install that msvb library perhaps.
[23:30] <gambolputty> hi
[23:30] <harris> hi
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> bleemoo:  i have all the major desktops installed.. ;) about the only one i dont use is xubuntu
[23:31] <scumbum> harris: virtual box with complete install of windows may be your best bet to run hacked exe's
[23:32] <gambolputty> I could use some help.  I was upgrading ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 via downloaded files and the upgrading of the files crashed.  I don't want to totally install 13.04 again because that would erase some vital files I've copied over.  How can install 13.04 without losing anything?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> gambolputty:  best thing to do would be use a live cd. and backup those files somewhere.. just in case
[23:33] <gambolputty> they're already on my old computer, but I don't want to copy them over again
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> gambolputty:  recoverying from a failed upgrade. can be very hard.
[23:33] <LiquidDemocracy> I need some help. After the upgrade to 13.04 I can not log into Ubuntu anymore. After entering the password for 2 seconds is seems to load the desktop but then it jumps right back to the login windows.
[23:33] <LiquidDemocracy> window
[23:33] <gambolputty> I was using another program during the upgrade
[23:33] <gambolputty> virtualbox in this case
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  does the guest user work?
[23:34] <harris> scumbum, that takes too long
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  common issue is the .Xauthority file in the users home gets owned by root. try logging in at the console and move/renameing the file
[23:34] <gambolputty> in my case the computer does boot up, but all I see is a graphical screen and no logon ability
[23:34] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, hold on. I will try.
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> harris:  how long have you been at this? :)
[23:34] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, yes it does.
[23:34] <harris> idk
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  Try the .Xauthority trick.
[23:35] <punter> Is there no package I can install to get the system-tray back in Ubuntu 13.04?
[23:35] <scumbum> harris: not really install windows from iso. Less time than you spent already.
[23:36] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, what is that?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> punter:  cairo-dock (and other docks) might have a system tray.
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  its a security file that gets owned by root by mistake at times.
[23:36] <punter> Dr_Willis: excellent, thanks!
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  common issue is the .Xauthority file in the users home gets owned by root. try logging in at the console and move/renameing the file
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> punter:  i mentoned the use of a dock like a few hrs ago to you i recall....
[23:37] <l057c0d3r> scumbum, well..  punter coould possibly check out ubuntu gnome..  there are extensions that will put a task tray on the top bar..  and there are other extensions to make it resemble a windows start bar..  and others like bolt / cario-dock combo which i find better then windows
[23:37] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, sudo rm -f /home/me.Xauthority ?
[23:37] <l057c0d3r> oh wait..
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  or just rename it..
[23:37] <l057c0d3r> sorry i missed it u were talking to harris
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> sudo mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.old
[23:37] <gambolputty> The 13.04 DVD doesn't allow for a reinstall option with keeping my files.  It will only erase them all. :(
[23:37] <punter> Dr_Willis: I missed that msg... I'll search for it
[23:37] <scumbum> harris: msvbc is visual basic
[23:38] <harris> so how do i install it
[23:38] <savio> harris crack exe some time just don't work with wine go with virtualization
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> harris:  the wine tricks tool has options to install many support libs.
[23:39] <harris> under install app or windows dll
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> harris:  no idea.. LOOK around and see
[23:39] <scumbum> bleemoo: install all the GUIs you want . Select during login
[23:39] <scumbum> harris: its a VB dll missing. Winehq does not support that version yet.
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> scumbum:  a vb so new.. wine cant handle it. ;)
[23:40] <harris> ok
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15789  ---> says do --> winetricks vb6run
[23:41] <Dr_Willis>   harris
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> Oh well
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> wait..  there is mono for most .net languages is there not??
[23:43] <scumbum> harris: try in terminal WINETRICKS VB6RUN
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> a program i wrote in vb on windows ran fine as exe with mono on linux..  but think i had to use vb 2010
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> or was it 2008
[23:43] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. been a while now cant remember exactly
[23:44] <KBentley57> Hey everyone.  I'm running xubuntu, and I've just transitioned from 12.10 -> 13.04.  I'm having a problem booting with the new kernel, as in, no boot.  has anyone experienced similar issues?
[23:45] <KBentley57> I tried a few different kernels from the ubuntu mainline releases, but only the 3.5.7 has worked.  I've tried various 3.7 and 3.8 kernels, but no 3.6 at this point
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, no boot meaning in detail.
[23:45] <OerHeks> 13.04 comes with <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> what happens with the other kernels, and have you modified grub?
[23:46] <scumbum> Winehq provdes the dlls to run windows exes
[23:46] <KBentley57> no boot = black screen with no output.  If i use nomodeset, i see very much garbled output that I cannot decipher, and it times out at around 34 seconds into the boot
[23:46] <KBentley57> the same thing happens with kernels > 3.5.7.
[23:46] <KBentley57> OerHeks, yes, that is correct
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Have you had to install graphic drivers in the past?
[23:47] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, yes, I'm running the amd fglrx at the moment.  But, before I upgraded, I uninstalled them just in case.
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, A upgrade needs all that setup run again
[23:48] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, would you care to explain more?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Distro upgrades will not save installed graphic setups as in being upgraded to the new needed.
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> in other words what you did to get 12.10 working you need to do in a upgrade to 13.04
[23:50] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, that didn't work. Any other idea?
[23:50] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, I didn't have the proprietary drivers installed at the time of upgrading.  I prepared the system to as close as default as I could get.
[23:51] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, besides, i can't even get far enough to get the graphics drivers installed in the newer kernel
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Have you installed the proprietary now in the same manner?
[23:51] <heneusl_pay> What shall be done to enable mp3 playback using Ubuntu 12 live CD?
[23:52] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, yes.  After installing this kernel, I build the .deb packages and installed them.
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, So you were able to get in at one point and after this work you are broken?
[23:53] <jmnoz> so, installing mpd on ubuntu requires a lot of configuration to get it working with pulseaudio. What is really the downside of just using at as a user program instead of running it as a service?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Ansikt: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:53] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Ansikt
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> heneusl_pay, INstall the restricted-extras for your desktop or try vlc
[23:53] <bob___> I have an issue with sshfs, I can see one directory in my mountpoint but not the other. Both directories are present on the server. Any ideas?
[23:54] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: you need to run it from usb . Use usb creator that allows persistant changes. Then install codec pack
[23:55] <heneusl_pay> wilee-nilee: The vlc plugin comes installed by default in firefox how shall I direct the mp3 stream to be played by it instead of the default action which is using rhythmbox.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> bob___: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l /full/path/to/directory/with/problem/../" on the server and on the client, as well as the output of "mount".
[23:55] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, let me restate it.  in 12.10 I had fglrx.  I removed it with synaptic prior to upgrading.  I ran the sudo do-release-upgrade, and it finished.  I wasn't able to boot into the 3.8.0-19 kernel at all; luckily I could boot into the 12.10 kernel, 3.5.0-27.  That is what I booted into to try the other kernels.  None of them worked except for the one I'm using now, 3.5.7.
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> heneusl_pay, As suggested if you want codecs and to be able to reboot and use again load a usb with persistence.
[23:56] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: you maybe albe to install codec pack running from cd but not sure.
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> KBentley57, Cool, hopefully that is enough info for those to help that know, not sure myself. ;)
[23:57] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, then at least you know more than me :)
[23:57] <heneusl_pay> How shall I direct the stream to the already installed VLC plugin?
[23:58] <tekkidd> Has this bug been fixed in 13.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1102373
[23:58] <scumbum> heneusl_pay: not sure. Maybe download mp3 then open with vlc


[10:58] <grue_pm> cjwatson: hey col
[10:59] <cjwatson> grue_pm: hi
[15:41] <KaZeR> hi cjwatson
[16:08] <KaZeR> is there a launchpad admin around? I'm having some issues with uploading translations from a script
[16:11] <cjwatson> slightly still around but really busy as last day before holidays, with you in a bit
[16:17] <KaZeR> thanks cjwatson
[16:22] <cjwatson> dpm: ^- do you think you could help KaZeR out with their ubuntu-l10n-tools problem?  The only useful thing I can see from server logs has been http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719491/, which for some reason is turning into a 500 rather than a 403, but regardless, it looks like a creds problem and my suspicion is it's client-side
[16:23] <KaZeR> cjwatson: can we do one real quick test together? i'd like to know if my own upload script faces the same issue. if it does i might be able to troubleshoot it more easily than the ubuntu-l10n-tools
[16:27] <cjwatson> KaZeR: it's going to take me more time to sync the logs than I have left, so I doubt I could contribute anything
[16:28] <cjwatson> today at least
[16:28] <KaZeR> ok i understand. i thought that you had direct access to the logs
[16:28] <dobey> KaZeR: what is the actual problem?
[16:28] <dobey> KaZeR: is it soem command i can run here for example?
[16:28] <cjwatson> I have direct-ish access, but only by rsync and that takes a while because there are lots of individual very large files
[16:29] <KaZeR> dobey: sure. here's what i'm trying to do :
[16:29] <KaZeR> ./translations-lp-upload -p navit -e trunk -t navit  /home/navit/github/bin/po/navit.pot -k launchpad.sqlite
[16:29] <KaZeR> 2015-03-31 18:27:31,283 ERROR Template upload failed (error 500, URL https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/+upload)
[16:30] <dobey> whtere does ubuntu-i18n-tools come from?
[16:30] <cjwatson> lp:ubuntu-l10n-tools
[16:30] <KaZeR> cjwatson: found this yesterday in the logs : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719491/
[16:30] <cjwatson> (NOT i18n)
[16:30] <cjwatson> the traceback amounts to "you aren't a translations admin", but you should be
[16:30] <KaZeR> dobey: if you know of a better script / tool /workflow i'm interested, but this is the only tool i found so far
[16:38] <dobey> KaZeR: so you're only uploading the template? why not just configure lp to automatically get it?
[16:39] <KaZeR> dobey: i'd love that. the only other way i found in the doc was to use a bzr branch, but we don't use bazaar
[16:39] <dobey> oh, it's not in the source tree?
[16:39] <KaZeR> nop, it's build automatically during compilation
[16:40] <KaZeR> i want to have our CI server push the updates to launchpad
[16:43] <dobey> well i get a 403
[16:43] <dobey> which makes sense
[16:44] <dobey> but on the other hand, why is this using the firefox cookies db for auth
[16:44] <KaZeR> that's what's in the doc :)
[16:49] <dobey> yeah, i wasn't asking why you were. i was asking why the code was :)
[16:50] <KaZeR> ha :D
[16:50] <dobey> looks like the API doesn't quite have a way to upload a template :-/
[16:50] <KaZeR> i tried to wrote a small perl script ( using Mechanize ) to do it on my side, but i'm facing an issue that seems similar ( tho, it does not require the firefox cookies )
[16:51] <KaZeR> my script does not use the api, it really uses the form to upload
[16:51] <dobey> right. as does the translations-lp-upload tool
[16:53] <KaZeR> using my own script i'm getting : Error POSTing https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+translations-upload: Internal Server Error at lp_upload.pl line 20.
[16:54] <KaZeR> i might not be using oauth as i should. can you tell me a bit more about this ( anyway, it's weird that i'm getting a 500 )
[17:09] <dpm> cjwatson, looking at it now
[17:11] <dpm> dobey, so yeah, it seems you have answered the questions yourself
[17:11] <dpm> in summary, we're jumping through hoops a bit as a workaround for not having an API
[17:12] <dpm> although IIRC, support for managing templates was added a while ago to the API
[17:12]  * dpm looks
[17:13] <dobey> i don't see it in the stable api docs at least
[17:14] <dpm> I'm wondering if there was any bit where you're required to be a LP Translations admin to do the upload (as opposed to being the project admin)
[17:14] <cjwatson> being the project owner implies having the launchpad.TranslationsAdmin permission on the project
[17:14] <cjwatson> see lib/lp/security.py:AdminProjectTranslations
[17:15] <cjwatson> assuming that's being checked on the right object, at least
[17:15] <dpm> ok
[17:16] <cjwatson> hm, actually, that's not the right permission class
[17:16] <dpm> ah, no if I'm reading this correctly, the only API bit implemented is to read or modify existing templates: https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#translation_template
[17:16] <cjwatson> it'd be EditPOTemplateDetails, I think
[17:16] <dpm> (re: the question whether there is API we can use for uploading)
[17:17] <cjwatson> still, owner of the product should suffice
[17:17] <dpm> ok
[18:02] <teward> there's no way to track multiple bugs from Debian per bug is there?
[18:02] <teward> (in Ubuntu bugs)
[18:05] <dobey> not in the same package
[18:05] <dobey> if they are in different packages in debian/ubuntu, you should be able to add each debian bug separately as a task
[18:06] <teward> problem is the Ubuntu bug ends up covering two Debian bugs, in the same package
[18:06] <teward> so meh
[18:06] <dobey> should probably be two ubuntu bugs then, or one debian bug should be marked a dup of the other
[18:06] <teward> mmm
[18:07] <teward> might just file the second launchpad bug, dupe em.  The fix for one bug down here in ubuntu squishes two bugs in Debian, and the same commit in Debian squishes two bugs so meh.
[18:07] <teward> not important, i'll just add a note about it being related via comments
[18:26] <sidi> is there a way to transfer the ownership of a PPA to a team?
[18:27] <cjwatson> sidi: A PPA's ownership is part of its identity, so not as such, but you can easily create a new PPA for the team and copy all the packages into it with binaries, so you don't have to rebuild everything.
[18:27] <sidi> cjwatson, i see, thanks
[18:28] <cjwatson> Technically it's also possible to grant upload access to a team without changing ownership (edit-acl in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools can do that), although there's no UI for that and it's generally a bit opaque.
[18:36] <sidi> cjwatson, Turns out I had accidentally created a personal PPA (for ~sidi) when creating a new recipe on a project when i meant it to go to the existing team's PPA
[18:36] <sidi> i got myself confused for a second thinking I had made this PPA for ~sidi and not for the team, and hadn't yet noticed
[18:37] <sidi> cjwatson, i didnt know there were UI-less things! actually i'm sometimes a bit annoyed that navigating through PPA / branches is so hard. i suspect you guys are such experts at it that you don't realise how complex it is to third parties ;-)
[22:43] <DalekSec> cjwatson: You're likely about to have a problem in the channel.
[22:52] <DalekSec> wgrant: Thanks.
[23:09] <KaZeR> wgrant: what about setting +t ?
[23:09] <teward> i said that yesterday and they said "Not a frequent enough issue"
[23:09] <wgrant> KaZeR: I don't see value in +t
[23:09] <teward> (in multiple channels)
[23:09] <wgrant> This happens maybe twice a year.
[23:09] <KaZeR> np, it's up to you.
[23:09] <wgrant> It's far more valuable that someone can come along and put an outage announcement in the topic, for example.
[23:10] <KaZeR> that makes sense


[09:54] <schopin> tjaalton: I'm looking into merging freeipa, done pretty much all the work, re-enabled the tests, but they seem to systematically fail, and it looks like https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=996946 . Do you know if it's tracked upstream?
[09:55] <schopin> OTOH, I seem to have a reliable reproducer ;-)
[10:11] <tjaalton> schopin: don't upload the server in jammy, it's not ready
[10:11] <tjaalton> I filed that bug
[10:36] <tjaalton> schopin: also, it's not an upstream bug
[12:15] <schopin> tjaalton: yup, I figured. I'll leave a note on MoM :)
[14:01] <schopin> doko: regarding LP: #1948950 (thanks for the upload btw) do you think it warrants a SRU to impish? Is there a chance that the builder images be regenerated during its lifetime?
[14:09] <doko> schopin, just chatted with kanashiro... can you upload that to jammy first? I'd rather delay an upload to impish, because it adds again a lot of autopkg tsts
[14:10] <schopin> Yeah of course I wouldn't have until it landed in jammy proper. And until I got upload rights to main, too ;)
[14:11] <schopin> Just trying to think ahead
[14:17] <doko> ok, uploading your debdiff
[16:46] <bdmurray> smoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/cloud-initramfs-tools/+git/cloud-initramfs-tools/+merge/411032
[17:44] <smoser> bdmurray: its been a long time.... does is that just going to land itself ? I approved, do i have to fetch and push ?
[17:54] <bdmurray> smoser: Yeah, you'd have to fetch and push or you could add me to the cloud-initramfs-tools team
[17:54] <bdmurray> but that seems like a bit much