[12:06] <phix> ok
[12:06] <bullgard4> 'man aptitude': "The command 'man aptitude why <target package>' finds a dependency chain that installs the target package named on the command line, Where does this dependency chain start?
[12:06] <phix> dpkg -l | egrep -i '(notification-daemon|notify-daemon|libnotify-bin)'
[12:06] <phix> ii  libnotify-bin                                               0.7.4-1                                    sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon (Utilities)
[12:06] <phix> ii  notification-daemon                                         0.7.1-4                                    daemon for displaying passive pop-up notifications
[12:06] <FloodBot1> phix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <jon_> hi, i've inherited a server to run and thought that the first thing i should do is test the backup
[12:06] <phix> FloodBot1: 3 lines != flood
[12:06] <killnine> phix, how would I see if they are blocking?
[12:06] <ikonia> bullgard4: could you rephrase the question as it doesn't make sense
[12:06] <jon_> the backup system at the minute is just a massive tarball of usr etc and a few other directories
[12:07] <DarrenBB> arc_n: so you may not be able to do what he's doing (making wubi once to use over and over) but to make it once wouldn't be that hard? how far did you get?
[12:07] <phix> killnine: pastebin them and I can take a look if you like :)  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file too
[12:07] <ikonia> bullgard4: maybe give a real world example in a pastebin if it helps
[12:07] <jon_> when i restored the backup in a vm, the system no longer boots with some udev errors about kernel-provided name, and no such file or directory
[12:07] <jon_> anyone have any ideas what's happened here?
[12:07] <arc_n> DarrenBB;wait...
[12:08] <phix> jon_: the kernel is giving you this error or grub / lilo?
[12:08] <e01> phix, thanks
[12:08] <jon_> phix: the kernel as far as i can tell
[12:08] <jon_> it's past grub and started booting, since udev is giving the error
[12:09] <killnine> phix, would an empty file block?
[12:09] <killnine> just APT {};
[12:09] <DarrenBB> sounds like the kernel's changed in btw backup times
[12:09] <phix> killnine: no that is normal
[12:09] <killnine> kk
[12:09] <iceroot> jon_: copied the backup on the same machine (kernel-version, modules)?
[12:09] <phix> jon_: ah ok
[12:09] <phix> jon_: I didnt read that bit :)
[12:09] <jon_> iceroot - no, but should that be a problem?
[12:09] <iceroot> jon_: of course
[12:09] <DarrenBB> lol
[12:09] <jon_> the backup contains nothing related to the kernel as far as i can tell
[12:10] <DarrenBB> etc
[12:10] <arc_n> DarrenBB:see my code error:http://pastebin.com/US2rBWG7
[12:10] <iceroot> jon_: no modules? what dirs you backuped?
[12:10] <phix> jon_: what is the backup type? a raw image? or using some type of application which stores it in its own format?
[12:10] <jon_> iceroot, DarrenBB - i'm just checking
[12:11] <iceroot> jon_: start the vm with the kernelversion you made the backup from
[12:11] <DarrenBB> what's the bet ,if you leave /etc out, the backup'll work fine
[12:11] <phix> DarrenBB: what's to bet you won't get a console to login to :)
[12:12] <DarrenBB> lol
[12:12] <jon_> yeah, that sounds worth a try
[12:12] <jon_> at the least, there's a udev.conf file in here which could be causing problems
[12:12] <arc_n> All:Tell me solution of this compilation code:http://pastebin.com/DQrHz8Zn
[12:13] <arc_n> All:Tell me solution of this compilation code:http://pastebin.com/DQrHz8Zn
[12:13] <almoxarife> arc_n: you didn't run ./configure first?
[12:13] <mika__> hi, I've an urgent problem.... yesterday I tried to hibernate the system, it didn't went so well, it just freezed, so I shutdown the pc using the power button.... now I tried to start the pc, and the hard disk (ssd) is not recognized anymore.... what happened??
[12:14] <DarrenBB> arc_n: get libcurl you peckerhead
[12:14] <ikonia> DarrenBB: pull it back please, no need to call people names
[12:14] <warfaren> mika__: do you have an intel 320 series
[12:14] <DarrenBB> haha, sorry boss
[12:14] <ikonia> arc_n: final request - stop flooding the channel
[12:14] <jon_> thanks everyone - i'm going to investigate leaving etc out
[12:15] <arc_n> DarrenBB:how to ger libcurl?? and ikonia:sorry dear
[12:15] <DarrenBB> "well my work here is half done"
[12:15] <arc_n> All:Tell me solution of this compilation code:http://pastebin.com/DQrHz8Zn
[12:15] <mika__> warfaren: it's an ocz vertex 2
[12:16] <warfaren> okay sorry dont know then, it sounded like a problem ive heard of with intel 320
[12:17] <almoxarife> arc_n: perhaps you are a non english speaker, just in case, demanding like speech is a turn off
[12:17] <warfaren> in that case the partition was corrupted when computer was not shut down properly
[12:17] <mika__> warfaren: how did you resolved? was the bootloader see correctly the hard disk? mine doesn't! :(
[12:17] <warfaren> in the case of the intel drives i mean. not every time ofc
[12:17] <mika__> when I boot it says that there is any disk
[12:17] <mika__> neither in the bios: no device
[12:18] <warfaren> well i never got the problem cuz i updated to a firmware version that fixed it before it happened to me. but im not saying thats what happened to you as you dont have the same ssd
[12:19] <timow> telnet ftw!!
[12:19] <mika__> ok
[12:19] <almoxarife> arc_n: since you asked, the solution is 'gather and install all the dependencies you need to compile from source' first
[12:19] <warfaren> but a good idea would probably be to run a live cd and mount the hdd there. maybe mbr was being written when it froze
[12:19] <warfaren> in that case a new grub-install will probably fix it?
[12:19] <mika__> warfaren: I'm from a live cd.... but I don't see in /dev/s*
[12:20] <warfaren> oh strange
[12:20] <mika__> warfaren: it doesn't show up in the bios too
[12:20] <dr_willis> not showing in bios.. is a bad sign - like the hd may be dead sign.
[12:20] <warfaren> so if you enter bios it cant be seen there either? not just when trying to boot like normal
[12:21] <jaspionx> well well
[12:21] <arc_n> almoxarife: can u tell me how to get libcurl??
[12:21] <warfaren> or maybe the sata cable is loose, that could be why it froze
[12:21] <almoxarife> arc_n: nope
[12:21] <mika__> dr_willis: yeah, i know, and i'm kinda f***e up in that case :(
[12:21] <dr_willis> ive seen drive cables get cut on sharp edges also.  nicks one wire in the cable.
[12:21] <warfaren> ive had 2 loose sata cables. threw them away
[12:21] <warfaren> check the power cable too. maybe test it in another pc
[12:21] <dr_willis> took me forever to find that hardware issue.. ide cable with one little nick.
[12:21] <mika__> warfaren: right, i see just the cdrom drive..... and i'm on a notebook
[12:22] <warfaren> ohh
[12:22] <warfaren> no cables then i guess
[12:22] <dr_willis> USB enclosures are good for trouble shooting. :)
[12:22] <warfaren> you could still take the drive out though
[12:22] <mika__> right... already tried... and put it there again, same
[12:22] <warfaren> well connect it somewhere else i mean
[12:23] <warfaren> it could be your sata comtroller fried too
[12:23] <mika__> i don't have any other notebooks with sata :(
[12:23] <mika__> (neither desktop)
[12:23] <warfaren> maybe you can buy a sata<->usb cable?
[12:23] <warfaren> i have that, have lots of use for it
[12:24] <warfaren> it cost me like €40 though
[12:24] <warfaren> but power supply was also included and its compatible with ide and laptop ide aswell so not half bad
[12:25] <warfaren> or like someone said, usb enclosure
[12:26] <warfaren> if you find someome who threw away an external usb hdd then you can probably use that. usually its just the hdd thats dead but the enclosure can be re-used
[12:26] <creazyrohila> any one know about lenovo sound system in 11.10
[12:26]  * dr_willis has a collection of old enclosures. :)
[12:26] <dr_willis> !alsa
[12:26] <warfaren> yeah you kinda tend to get a lot of them xD
[12:26] <mika__> i try with the old disk...let's see...
[12:26] <mika__> cya later
[12:27] <warfaren> ok thats a good idea
[12:27] <warfaren> cya
[12:27] <dr_willis> warfaren:  not lately .. costs are to high :)
[12:27] <warfaren> true
[12:27] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, i have 4.1 speakers but my subwoofer not working
[12:28] <warfaren> you probably need to set it up for 5.1?as normally center and sub shares the connector
[12:28] <creazyrohila> last time (10.04) it was working by adding a code-line to alsa.conf but this time in 11.10  it not working
[12:29] <tomfmason> I am having issues with pulseaudio. I am using a plantronics usb headset but for some really odd reason only browsers play sound through them. VLC and Skype both play sound through my laptop's soundcard.
[12:29] <warfaren> i guess that can be annoying though if you watch movies and all the speech is sent to the center that you dont have
[12:30] <warfaren> but usually theres a setting to send it to left/right anyway
[12:33] <creazyrohila> any one with lenovo laptop
[12:34] <SunTsu> anyone with even less specific questions?
[12:34] <creazyrohila> lenovo y510
[12:34] <DemonWitch> hey, afaik ubuntu has a release cycle (ie not rolling release). does that mean only the new kernel/userland etc (core system) is upgraded every few months? or every package is hold back?
[12:34] <dr_willis> DemonWitch:  there are minor kernel updates from what i see.
[12:35] <dr_willis> and security updates
[12:35] <resonantsky> hey
[12:35] <dr_willis> DemonWitch:  basically every 6 mo . everything gets updated
[12:35] <TiMiDo> yeah ;)
[12:35] <SunTsu> DemonWitch: what dr_willis says plus there's ppas that are updated more often if you need that
[12:35] <resonantsky> can someone help me with usb device settings in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:35] <TiMiDo> resonantsky, what's wrong?
[12:35] <SunTsu> resonantsky: not without knowing what _exactly_ you are talking about
[12:36] <buzzmandt> Have you tried running alsa-mixer in trrminal?
[12:36] <resonantsky> TiMiDo: I have problems with constant disconnects on my USB bus
[12:36] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: maybe you could ask what you want to know or are you trying to do a poll on how popular lenovo laptops are?
[12:36] <resonantsky> SunTsu: my xorg.0.log shows constant USB device disconnects and reconnects, the device in question: A Logitech USB Mouse
[12:37] <SunTsu> resonantsky: maybe it's broken
[12:37] <resonantsky> TiMiDo: / SunTsu: I want to disable the USB bus ability to disconnect / reconnect devices on the fly
[12:37] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i have a problem in y510 sound
[12:38] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, so i am asking
[12:38] <resonantsky> SunTsu: the USB bus or the mouse? the mouse is fine, works ok on another box, this box has been giving me trouble for a while...
[12:38] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, my subwoofer not working
[12:38] <creazyrohila> i tried all
[12:39] <resonantsky> this problem is a biyatch, theres loads of forums where this problem is sited by hundreds of users... and no solution win/linux/mac
[12:39] <resonantsky> seems like a usb bus / firmware issue... but there must be a way to simply disable disconnect/reconnects and make the bus act as if the device is always there.
[12:40] <resonantsky> TiMiDo: / SunTsu: let me know if you have any ideas or links to USB bus related commands so I can fiddle around with 'em
[12:41] <ManDay> ikonia: You said that gcc was in the 11.04 repositories. I can't find it there.
[12:42] <ikonia> ManDay: it is in the repos - the same as every distro
[12:43] <dr_willis> ManDay:  most likely you want to install the 'build-essential' package
[12:43] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: maybe you could a) tell us what your problem actually is, and b) what you tried to resolve it
[12:43] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[12:43] <llutz_> !info gcc natty
[12:43] <ikonia> ManDay: is this a normal install - or another attempt at you debootstrapping
[12:44] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i have 4 speakers and 1 subwoofer , now i installed 11.10 and my subwoofer not working only 2 speakers working.....
[12:44] <SunTsu> resonantsky: I don't know a way, but I'm not an usb expert
[12:44] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  just a question. the audio source you are playing IS more then 2 channels?
[12:45] <resonantsky> SunTsu: ok no problem :]
[12:45] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, i dont know may be
[12:45] <deusex1983> Hi guys I am using Xubuntu 11.10 with XFCE Desktop und Nvidia Drivers with Compiz Fusion, how I can deactivate the horizontal tearing when watching .mkv files with vlc or smplayer?
[12:45] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  if its just 2 chanel audio. then it would play out the front 2 speakers - unless your player has a way to copy the channels.
[12:46] <mah454> How can install default standard gnome 3 theme in ubuntu-11.10 ?
[12:46] <inashdeen> hi, got acer aspire 4250 here, now running on live cd. everything is okay, but the touchpad is not working. tried the fn + f7 option, it doesnt work.
[12:46] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  i recall some sound test tools that played noise out each speaker in session. that would be how to test if they are working
[12:46] <resonantsky> SunTsu: you know what is strange... i have 2 usb ports on this laptop, one 2.0 hub and one 1.1 hub... on the 2.0 hub the issue occurs frantically, 5 times a minute or so... and on the 1.1 hub its less prevailant...
[12:46] <Crupulus> hey, how can i know which wifi card is being used, and if both of them are working at same time ? (I have an internal bcm and usb alfa network) - ty
[12:46] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, only 2 speakes working
[12:46] <Mjondras> Hey, this is my first time on IRC in 10 years or so. Where do I need to go if I need help with my desktop freezing up?
[12:47] <llutz_> dr_willis: speaker-test
[12:47] <SunTsu> resonantsky: how old is that mouse?
[12:47] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i tried what i tried last time (when i have 10.04) and (11.04) a one line-code in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf ...but this time in 11.10 its not working
[12:48] <resonantsky> SunTsu: it has a usb port... so not old enough to be a exhibit at a computer history museum :]
[12:48] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: did you try using pavucontrol in case you are using pulse audio?
[12:48] <resonantsky> SunTsu: probably 3 years atleast...
[12:49] <SunTsu> resonantsky: it could be usb1.x. and having speed negotiation issues
[12:49] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, no
[12:49] <resonantsky> SunTsu: hmm yes.
[12:49] <inashdeen> bump
[12:49] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, dr_willis http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/01/lenovo-y510-surround-sound-in-ubuntu.html
[12:49] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: no to using pulse or no to having tried it?
[12:49] <dr_willis> bumping  is meaningless on irc inashdeen
[12:50] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i dont have
[12:50] <Mjondras> Alright, so my desktop is freezing up. Is this the right place to be asking for help? :P
[12:50] <creazyrohila> means not using
[12:50] <dr_willis> Mjondras:  yes.. and give details.
[12:50] <SunTsu> Mjondras: when being more specific it might be
[12:50] <resonantsky> SunTsu: any idea where I can find usb commands related to accelration/speed factors or device profiles... such as the 'MOUSE' profile in Ubuntu... maybe I can create a workaround...
[12:51] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, dr_willis http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/01/lenovo-y510-surround-sound-in-ubuntu.html this thing i tried
[12:51] <inashdeen> hi everyone. has an acer aspire 4250 here, everything works ok, but the touchpad does not work, how do i fixed it. i am now running from a live cd
[12:51] <SunTsu> resonantsky: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html doesn't have the answer?
[12:52] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  checked the forums or askubunt.com yet for that exact make machine? also there may be some bugreports on it.
[12:52] <resonantsky> SunTsu: that will do :] thanks due.
[12:52] <resonantsky> sp / dude
[12:53] <Mjondras> Well, I guess it's more then a desktop problem really. Programs stop responding, I can't write. I have to use the windows-key because the sidebar doesn't respond.
[12:53] <inashdeen> dr_willis : there are some other issues, but not this
[12:54] <Mjondras> If I open a new program it works until I minimize it.
[12:55] <resonantsky> SunTsu: ahh, here we are /sys/bus/usb/devices/ ... cool.
[12:55] <Mjondras> Also, the graphic interface doesn't react, and for instance the system & shutdown-menu vanishes.
[12:57] <SunTsu> Mjondras: what wm/DE are you using?
[12:58] <Mjondras> The problem usually arises when I've been on for a while, and vanishes when I reboot. But I can't save my work when programs freeze up. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, if that's what you're asking.
[12:58] <SunTsu> Mjondras: No, I was asking if you use unity, Gnome3, KDE, XFCE..
[12:59] <Mjondras> I don't know. :D This is my second day as an Ubuntu user. :)
[12:59] <SunTsu> Mjondras: then you prolly use Unity, you didn't change the graphic environment?
[13:00] <alvasrawuther> hey i'm having a problem with installing a problem can anyone please help me?
[13:00] <Mjondras> Nope.
[13:00] <resonantsky> Another question to anyone who can help: how serious are dpkg dependency issues? my bootstrap.log file is full of dependency messages, should I go about installing all missing packages?
[13:00] <llutz_> alvasrawuther: just don't install your problem
[13:01] <ikonia> resonantsky: depends how you installed the packages, if you used the package manager then the required dependencies should be met and you'll have no issues
[13:02] <Nertskull> Does someone want to recommend to me a good mouse?  I don't necessarily need a "gaming" mouse, but would like a good one.  Wired/wireless are ok.  I've been looking at the G500, are there better ones?
[13:02] <ikonia> Nertskull: try ##hardware
[13:02] <resonantsky> ikonia: which package manager? synaptic? update-manager ??
[13:02] <SunTsu> netsurf3_: first of all, this is #ubuntu, nit ##hardware
[13:03] <SunTsu> netsurf3_: sorry
[13:03] <ikonia> resonantsky: update-manager just installs updates to existing packages
[13:03] <SunTsu> Nertskull: first of all, this is #ubuntu, nit ##hardware
[13:03] <theadmin> resonantsky: Any of them. apt-get is also a package manager. Basically anything APT-aware is.
[13:03] <Nertskull> ikonia: excellent,
[13:03] <Nertskull> thanks, i'll try there
[13:03] <ikonia> Nertskull: ok.....so why ask ?
[13:03] <ikonia> Nertskull: sorry, miss-understood
[13:03] <SunTsu> Nertskull: second, people there probably need to know what you call better - better in what regard
[13:04] <Nertskull> allright, I will give more details, thanks for pointing me to a better place
[13:04] <resonantsky> theadmin: synaptic was complaining about broken packages... i thought i had sorted that all out... should I go about installing all the packages that bootstrap.log says are missing?
[13:05] <Mjondras> The most 'advanced' action I've done so far is installing Spotify through the terminal ;P
[13:05] <theadmin> resonantsky: I'm not so sure about what "bootstrap.log" is, but "sudo apt-get -f install" or "sudo dpkg --configure -a" usually fix broken packages.
[13:05] <s0> i don't know which country are you,i do not understand what are you talking
[13:05] <kornelia> I am having trouble with pulse on an acer aspire 5100 (ALC883 soundchip), output is working fine but the mic wont work
[13:06] <s0> can i make a girlfriend here
[13:06] <resonantsky> theadmin: seems to be a log of all dpkg actions... its cool, i assume that adding all these predependencies can do no harm...
[13:06] <ikonia> s0: no - we only offer ubuntu support discussion here
[13:07] <s0> i forget my password
[13:07] <ManDay> ikonia: What do you mean by "gcc-4.3" is in the repos just like with any other distro? As we know, 4.3 is no longer in the repositories for oneirc, at least!
[13:07] <SunTsu> s0: then get a better mind
[13:07] <dr_willis> !password
[13:08] <ManDay> ikonia: YOU told me that I should use 11.04 because there, as opposed to Oneiric, I could get gcc-4.3
[13:08] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, now i run test speaker
[13:08] <ikonia> ManDay: two questions. 1.) is this a normal install or another bootstrap install 2.) why are you osbsessed with gcc 4.3
[13:08] <abu-bakr> anyone have any experience with this when setting a share in ubuntu: unable to mount windows share
[13:08] <s0> get a better mind,what's this mean
[13:08] <creazyrohila> and its running fine
[13:08] <abu-bakr> I cannot access it from either of my two ubuntu machines
[13:08] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, but when i play a file its not working
[13:08] <ManDay> ikonia: 1) bootstrap 2) i need something older-or-equal to 4.3 because the software requires it.
[13:08] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  because the sound is only 2 channels - would be my guess.
[13:09] <creazyrohila> speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav
[13:09] <ikonia> ManDay: 1.) why are you bootstrapping and not installing like everyone else 2.) you don't need 4.3 - ubuntu 11.04 and it's components are certified working and supported by matlab
[13:09] <bullgard4> Where is the usage of Synaptic > Settings > Filters described?
[13:09] <ikonia> ManDay: I have you alink yesterday detailing 11.04 was supported and certified
[13:09] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, i tried this "speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav"
[13:09] <ikonia> ManDay: that means the default components of 11.04 will work with matlab
[13:09] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, what can i do now
[13:09] <ManDay> ikonia: Matlab needs 4.3 or older. If that link claims differently, then that links is wrong.
[13:10] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  so? Means very little to me. sounds to me like you need to tell whatever player you are using to copy the 2 channel audio to the other channels.
[13:10] <ikonia> ManDay: no it doesn't as after you insistance yesterday I did a short test,
[13:10] <ikonia> ManDay: and again - why are you bootstrapping and not doing a normal install
[13:10] <ManDay> ikonia: You tested matlab 2011b with a gcc newer than 4.3?
[13:11] <ManDay> ikonia: Because I want to.
[13:11] <ikonia> 2011b - just a base install and build on the demo product
[13:11] <ManDay> ikonia: I want to configure a minimal system from scratch / thats whz
[13:11] <ikonia> ManDay: ok - then I'm going to leave supporting you well alone, you insist on making this hard for yoruself and have no idea what you are doing
[13:11] <ikonia> ManDay: use a default install and remove the packages you don't want - good luck
[13:12] <ManDay> ikonia: Did you test matlab 2011b with a gcc newer than 4.3?
[13:12] <ikonia> ManDay: the default installed in 11.04 which was 4.4 I think, I was limited how much I can test with a demo license.
[13:12] <ikonia> ManDay: good luck
[13:13] <Mjondras> Umm, might my graphics card be causing the problems?
[13:13] <dr_willis> Mjondras:  very possible.
[13:14] <ManDay> ikonia: As it turns out from "limited how much I can test" you have not the slightest idea what we are talking about. That said, all you did was misleading me. Spare me your "good luck" - after all that, this is pure irony
[13:14] <iceroot> ManDay: google says that matlab 2011b is working with ubuntu 11.10
[13:15] <ManDay> iceroot: I'm pretty sure this does not consider the gcc version.
[13:15] <iceroot> ManDay: and why you want to built it and not use a binary?
[13:15] <ManDay> iceroot: build what?
[13:15] <iceroot> ManDay: why you need gcc if you dont want to built it?
[13:16] <iceroot> ManDay: gcc is a compiler-collection
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: http://www.mathworks.co.uk/support/sysreq/current_release/linux.html
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: again - the official supported list
[13:16] <ManDay> iceroot: Matlab uses gcc in several parts such as Simulink to compile it's own language.
[13:16] <iceroot> ManDay: ah ok
[13:16] <ManDay> ikonia:  This has nothing to do with gcc.
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: yes it does
[13:16] <ManDay> s/it's/its
[13:16] <ikonia> if you read in more detail
[13:17] <ManDay> ikonia: http://www.mathworks.de/support/compilers/R2011b/glnxa64.html
[13:18] <ikonia> ManDay: where does that say it's 4.3 or older ?
[13:18] <iceroot> ManDay: and you get errors when using gcc higher then 4.3?
[13:18] <ikonia> actually I don't care
[13:18] <ManDay> iceroot: Yes. Matlab refuses to compile then.
[13:18] <ikonia> iceroot: no, it's fully supported and working on 11.04
[13:18] <ikonia> at least the demo programs work too,
[13:18] <iceroot> !info gcc natty
[13:19] <ikonia> I suspect this is more to do with the fact that ManDay is installing via debootstrap and his build enviornment isn't complete/working
[13:19] <iceroot> ManDay: the matlab-site is telling its working with ubuntu 11.04 and gcc-4.5
[13:19] <ManDay> ikonia: Stop it. I trusted your judgement once and now it turns out you were wrong all the way and only guessing. Have at least the modesty to refrain from making further comments
[13:19] <ikonia> yeah, I'm guessing, that's why I'm supplying you with factual information,
[13:20] <iceroot> ManDay: can you try a normal ubuntu-installation?
[13:20] <ikonia> I'm out
[13:20] <iceroot> ManDay: live-cd should be fine
[13:20] <omido> how can i install joomla on ubuntu?
[13:20] <abu-bakr> hi folks, does anyone have experience on creating a share in ubuntu to share a folder that is on a usb drive.. i.e. not in the home folder
[13:20] <dr_willis> !info joomla
[13:20] <DemonWitch> ikonia: you == complete && utter noob
[13:20] <iceroot> omido: only by hand and not with apt-get
[13:20] <ManDay> iceroot: Where did you read it supported 4.5?
[13:20] <iceroot> ManDay: the site tells ubuntu 11.04 is supported, correct?
[13:20] <ManDay> iceroot: yes
[13:21] <iceroot> !info gcc natty
[13:21] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  you mount it with the proper permissions/options, then the user can either share it. or you make a entry for it in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:21] <omido> iceroot:  can you help me do that ? cause i'm 100% noob in that aspect and i want to learn joomla
[13:21] <iceroot> ManDay: so 4.5.2-1
[13:21] <ManDay> iceroot: By your definition then, that site is wrong then.
[13:21] <abu-bakr> what sort of entry would smb need?
[13:21] <ManDay> It does provenly NOT support gcc-4.5. As I SAID that was NOT considered when speaking of "compatibility".
[13:21] <abu-bakr> (also i dont know what the 'proper permissions/options' would be)
[13:22] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  depends on what you want to do with the share. Samba is very well doucmented.
[13:22] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[13:22] <abu-bakr> oh cool
[13:22] <dr_willis> the samba-doc package has like 3 books on confguring samba. and thers 1000's of web sites.. perhaps 'Over 9000' :)
[13:22] <ManDay> iceroot: I already tried on oneiric
[13:22] <iceroot> ManDay: have you used a default 11.04 installation?
[13:22] <ManDay> And yes, it refuses to compile with 4.5
[13:22] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  the smb.conf file also has examples at the end.
[13:22] <abu-bakr> I have a disk in a USB caddy labelled 'Backup Disk' so i want to sync home folders from various ubuntu machines onto it.. good idea?
[13:23] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  what filesystem is it?
[13:23] <ManDay> iceroot: No, I can try from the liveCD, give me a few minutes
[13:23] <Mjondras> I tried the NVIDIA-channel, but no one's answering. Anyways, the terminal telling me I have a "nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 330M] (rev a2)" card.
[13:23] <abu-bakr> dr_willis, 'over 9000' = not cool! thats a mind melter
[13:24] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  samba has been around for ages.. and i imagine there are more then 9000 sites that give info on it.. but you missed the meme. :)
[13:24] <abu-bakr> i configured the backup disk as fat32 to keep things terribly simple.. (i can easily reformat to something else if not a good idea)
[13:24] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  using linux fs on it . would make things easier i imagine
[13:24] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  then you would have more options as to what to do with it.
[13:24] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr: dont forget fat32 has a 4gb limit to files
[13:25] <iceroot> ManDay: great
[13:25] <dr_willis> with ext2/3/4 you could make it a nfs share,  and mount it to the other machines, and each user could have their own backup dir they use as they want.
[13:25] <dr_willis> or use sshfs :) (what i tend to do)
[13:25] <abu-bakr> gentoo64, yeah i remembered that when it wouldn't transfer a couple of movies :P
[13:26] <bullgard4> Where is the usage of Synaptic > Settings > Filters described?
[13:26] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  whats best will depend on the details. # of users, what sort of backups you mean. how much data.
[13:26] <abu-bakr> dr_willis, about 4 machines max but they will all be just home folders mainly and they are work machines so just pictures and docs really
[13:27] <abu-bakr> all ubuntu but ya never know when the odd windows box pops up
[13:27] <Gentoo64> imo ext4 is fast and a good all rounder, if its a load of vig files then xfs
[13:27] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  i tend to just use ssh and sshfs on linux, or winscp or other ssh cleints on windows these days..  Ive had to fight with to many windows machines hateing each others shares.
[13:28] <abu-bakr> hmm
[13:28] <dr_willis> someone mentioned a ssh/sftp tool for windows in here the other day that lets you mount a remote ssh server to a drive letter in windows also. but i forget its name
[13:28] <dr_willis> Or you could go the samba route. and set up the users home  dirs as a 'home' share.
[13:28] <dr_willis> or both ways. :)
[13:29] <abu-bakr> .. both ways.. sounds dirty
[13:29] <dr_willis> 12+ ways
[13:30] <dr_willis> main server, using samba, set up home 'shares' and make a dir on that drive for each user. to access via samba. would be one way.
[13:30] <dr_willis> link that dir to their home under Backups or somthing. :) or move the /home/ to that dir. if its just for backups
[13:32] <abu-bakr> several options there but i'm not sure where to go from here tbh
[13:32] <abu-bakr> the simplest thing would be to get the current share working that I am attempting
[13:32] <dr_willis> ssh and scp and sshfs are defainatly worth learning about on a linux network
[13:33] <ManDay> iceroot: It does not work.
[13:33] <abu-bakr> i can currently create shares that the other ubuntu machines can see but only in this machines 'home' dir
[13:33] <dr_willis> shareing a ntfs or vfat would require you to mount the flesystem with open permissions, and  not be very secure.
[13:33] <abu-bakr> other shares out of home do not mount
[13:33] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> whats the best dvd ripper for Ubuntu (I am ripping my Bluray/HDDVD movies into my media center library (tired of picking from a shelf of 600+ dvd's) I just want it all in one library now like the rest of the stuff I have in mythtv and mediatomb
[13:33] <david> Is there an easy way, without opening the machine, to see if it has a SATA or IDE drive ?
[13:33] <iceroot> ManDay: i guess you should contact matlab about that issue
[13:34] <dr_willis> You could always Link the other filesystems INTO some dir in the users home dir abu-bakr  so they just ned to access their homes.
[13:34] <iceroot> ManDay: because they said its working with that ubuntu-version
[13:34] <abu-bakr> !disk utility | david
[13:34] <abu-bakr> David, try system/administration/disk utility
[13:35] <abu-bakr> dr_willis i'll just give that a try
[13:36] <abu-bakr> david_, try system/administration/disk utility
[13:36] <llutz_> david_: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdX |grep Transport
[13:36] <david_> i always forget about hdparm
[13:37] <mrbb> hi, anyone here having trouble with HD 4650 and latest ubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:37] <bullgard4> Where is the usage of Synaptic > Settings > Filters described?
[13:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: it filters results normally
[13:38] <david_> I just installed my elitebook 6930p. Trouble is, the volume control either works poorly or is extremely sensitive. I checked keyboard and keyboard shortcut tools and found nothing to help me
[13:39] <abu-bakr> dr_willis, erm.. i'm struggling to do that..
[13:39] <bullgard4> ikonia: "normally" is no useful description for an instruction for use.
[13:39] <abu-bakr> due to fat32 i think?
[13:39] <abu-bakr> or am doing something completely wrong..
[13:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok then "read the documentation" that should give you a useful description
[13:40] <mrbb> anyone ? plz? I've been trying to get the damn thing to work for 2 days now and Im obv doing something wrong but I cant figure out what
[13:41] <llutz_> mrbb: 1ststep: type "/anyone >mrbb"    and "/details > mrbb"
[13:42] <david_> Is there a irc channel for gripping about how much I dislike the direction ubuntu has taken ? ( dropped gnome for new unity interface that is incompatible with most programs and is impossible to use ) ?
[13:42] <llutz_> s#/#!#
[13:44] <CipherX> don't like lightdm?
[13:44] <CipherX> I have no probs with it so far, but to each their own I guess
[13:45] <ManDay> iceroot: As I already said: Their definition of "working" simply differs from yours. On a sidenote: I"ve been sayiny that all along, and you wouldn't believe me
[13:45] <iceroot> ManDay: as i said, contact them, i am no matlab-maintainer
[13:45] <gaussblurinc> how to upgrade system from 10.10 to 11.04? ( in console way ) (system doesn't see repos with 11.04:\)
[13:45] <iceroot> !update | gaussblurinc
[13:46] <ManDay> And what, iceroot, do you expect me to tell them? They make it pretty clear that only gcc-4.3 is supported.
[13:47] <llutz_> ManDay: if you know that, why didn't you just search packages.ubuntu.com for a version coming with gcc-4.3?
[13:49] <mrbb> llutz_ : what u said earlier made no sense to me , this is all new to me :/
[13:49] <pksadiq> Ubuntu 11.04, installation stuck at "Detecting file system", any idea?
[13:49] <llutz_> !details > mrbb
[13:49] <abu-bakr> !details
[13:50] <dr_willis> pksadiq:  start with a pastebin output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[13:50] <quick-> wine not working in 11.10 . Please help .
[13:50] <dr_willis> quick-:  whats not working about it?
[13:50] <dr_willis> does 'wine --help' work?
[13:50] <pksadiq> Dr_willis: How to open terminal?
[13:50] <dr_willis> !terminal
[13:51] <SunTsu> !details > quick-
[13:51] <dr_willis> pksadiq:  or run gnome-terminal from the menus/launcher
[13:51] <quick-> dr_willis:  i am not able to start a program . it just exits .
[13:51] <dr_willis> quick-:  what programs have you tried?
[13:51] <pksadiq> dr_willis: I mean while installing, how will I open terminal?
[13:52] <quick-> dr_willis: ultrasurf . it worked fine with 11.04 but not working on 11.10
[13:52] <pksadiq> Dr_willis: i got tty working. Let me check
[13:52] <quick-> pksadiq:  press alt+ctrl+T to open terminal
[13:53] <ikonia> ManDay: are you still here ?
[13:53] <dr_willis> quick-:  so do other apps work?
[13:54] <quick-> dr_willis: i am not using any other app using wine .
[13:55] <dr_willis> quick-:  you said wine wasent working. :)  so thats not exactly the issue then it seems.
[13:55] <webroasters> hi guys. i used a command awhile back, that sets the crontab to look at a custom crontab.txt file. I've changed that file and I need to redo that command, but I forget what it was
[13:55] <dr_willis> try some other apps to see if it is in fact a general wine issue..or a specific issue with that one windows app.
[13:55] <iceroot> ManDay: i told you 10 times that they say ubuntu 11.04 is supported and 11.04 comes with gcc higher then 4.3
[13:55] <dr_willis> such as http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/swmirror/BRU_Setup_WinNTx86.exe
[13:55] <quick-> webroasters:  type history to get all the commands you used in past . hope it helps
[13:56] <iceroot> ManDay: so lets stop the discussion here, its useless, talk to matlab and ask them about the issue because its not a ubuntu-issue
[13:56] <ManDay> iceroot: whatever
[13:56] <webroasters> ah perfect thanks
[13:56] <ikonia> ManDay: I've just got off the phone to matlab and I can explain it if you want ?
[13:56] <dr_willis> wow - installing wine. pulled in like 400+mb of stuff.
[13:56] <ManDay> i never claimed it was. the only wish I came here with is installing 4.3 on ubuntu...
[13:56] <ManDay> which, so far, i still haven"t
[13:57] <iceroot> !info gcc lucid
[13:57] <ikonia> ManDay: the guy on the phone was quite approachable and explained a few things which it may help me to clarify for you
[13:57] <iceroot> !info gcc-4.3 lucid
[13:57] <iceroot> ManDay: lucid have gcc-4.3
[13:57] <ManDay> ikonia: Unless you have a solution other than installing 4.3 I think I now what the problem is
[13:57] <ikonia> ManDay: it's a little more complex than that, and there are more options open to you than that
[13:58] <ManDay> ikonia: You think about editing the mex-config file?
[13:58] <ManDay> Already tried that.
[13:58] <ikonia> no
[13:58] <abu-bakr> aaahh.. so i cant set group/file/folder permissions and therefore provide the necessary security for the share either .. becooozzz i am playing with a fat32 part... correct?
[13:58] <llutz_> abu-bakr: correct
[13:58] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it, you seem to be too certain of what you know
[13:58] <abu-bakr> ok.. gparted it is .. :D
[14:00] <ManDay> ikonia: I'm not gonna beg you for your help. We all would appreciate if you shared the knowledge but be my guest if not.
[14:00] <T0mM> Virtualbox wont stop running processes and eating my cpu even though it aint open.
[14:01] <T0mM> How do i stop VBoxSVC
[14:01] <T0mM> Please help me it's killing my computer.
[14:02] <quick-> T0mM:  You can try pkill VBoxSVC
[14:02] <T0mM> Okay.
[14:02] <T0mM> It just booted it's processes back up again.
[14:03] <ian23> Hello, I need help with a simple question that I couldn't find referenced anywhere (possibly because it's too stupid?): I am currently upgrading to 11.04 and in the last 5 minutes of package installation he starts downloading an update for a program that will approximately take 5 hours. I don't really need the program, I installed it ages ago for fun and used it once or twice. How do I stop it? If I go CTRL-C, will that cancel my whole distro upgrade? He
[14:03] <ian23> lp anybody?
[14:05] <emcav> should be safe to if it's still in the downloading stage
[14:05] <lasers> ian23: If it's still downloading, CTRL^C.  Never do it during configuring phrase.
[14:05] <T0mM> I see this in ps aux: macs      7646 38.8  0.0      0     0 ?        Zl   13:18  18:07 [VBoxSVC] <defunct>
[14:06] <lasers> T0mM: That process will go away when you reboot.
[14:06] <T0mM> Okay.
[14:07] <kokozedman> hey guys... anyone experiencing the "empty syslog" problem on Ubuntu Server?
[14:07] <ian23> It's in the "installing the upgrades" phase, currently downloading a piece of upgrade. Is that safe?
[14:07] <kokozedman> i can't find a way to log at the system log... running Oneiric, Server
[14:07] <kubanc> a have a toshiba satellite L100-119 and the power managment (stand by) is not working in ubuntu 10.04. Ia there any solution?
[14:08] <ian23> I tried to trick him by cutting my internet connection, he just went to 0kb/s and that was it
[14:08] <mrbb> ok lets try again. I got a problem with installing ATI mobility radeon HD 4650 on ubuntu 11.10, if I try to install the drivers that are included in ubuntu I get errors and it just wont intall , I get an error report on jockey.log but I have no ide how to understand it (what part to read to understand the fault) I have also tried diff methods posted on ubuntu forums, both swe and en (im swe) and nothing works . At best I get VESA : M96 as my ca
[14:08] <mrbb> rd and that lags horribly , every time I drag a window it loks as if Im running on 2fps. Im all lost :/
[14:09] <kokozedman> kubanc: i have experience really poor experience with LTS release (10.04) ... i upgraded to 10.10 then it got a lot better for my laptop... it doesn't seem to be well versed with the latest hardwares
[14:09] <T0mM> lasers, It worked, Thank you.
[14:10] <lasers> T0mM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[14:10] <kokozedman> mrbb: i've had a similar problem on my laptop... for me, it was the SATA and nVIDIA graphics card combination which was somewhat silly... making one or the other degrade over time. Either i get a very sluggish compiz and graphics, or a very slow drive response
[14:11] <llutz_> kokozedman: does oneiric use rsyslogd? check /etc/rsyslog.conf(.d/*)
[14:11] <Kingeddie> good morning ppl
[14:12] <emcav> ian23: it usually doesn't start upgrading packages until all the downloading is done so i think you should be fine
[14:12] <kokozedman> llutz_: i think so, it's got the 50-default.conf inside /etc/rsyslog.d ...
[14:15] <Zegrento7> Hello everyone! When i try to install Lubuntu 11.10 from a 4gb Maxell flash drive, the installer crashes cuz it fails to configure APT... On launchpad they said i have to copy the content of filesystem.squashfs to the flash drive, but i got an 'Access denied' even on  root. But only when i copy from the squashfs. I can't change the permissions in root. Can someone help?
[14:16] <AaronCampbell> Is there anything for Ubuntu that's akin to Adobe Premiere Pro?  At the moment I really don't need THAT much...mostly pulling video from an HD camera that uses MiniDV and some basic cutting/rendering
[14:18] <jussi> AaronCampbell: IM not 100% on what premiere pro does, but openshot, pitivi and kdenlive all appear to be something similar?
[14:18] <gwelter> AaronCampbell: pitivi, novacut, kdenlive
[14:18] <AaronCampbell> Thanks, I'll check them out
[14:19] <inashdeen> hi guys, i would like to ask a question here. hope people wont bet agree with it. what is the difference between debian unstable and ubuntu? and i am looking more into aspects like driver support, dependencies, etc.
[14:19] <kokozedman> Zegrento7: i suggest you fire-up a Virtual machine, load the CD/ISO image in it, then plug your USB flash inside the Virtual machine, then create a startup disk inside the Live CD system ..... that's the most reliable solution for me, for all times
[14:19] <bullgard4> What do gids mean with a value > 1000 in Ubuntu?
[14:19] <mrbb> what exacly does this mean : DEBUG: ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates) availability undetermined, adding to pool
[14:19] <OliveGreen> Hello
[14:20] <AaronCampbell> gwelter: Do you know if novacut is in one of the repos (possibly called something different)?
[14:20] <OliveGreen> Is it a good idea to use the Ubuntu Mozilla ppa to install Firefox 9?
[14:20] <gwelter> bullgard4: uids lower than 1000 are usually reserverd for system users (e.g. used by services)
[14:20] <gwelter> AaronCampbell: not sure, just know it by name
[14:21] <OliveGreen> That's Ubuntu Mozilla Security ppa. Sorry
[14:21] <Peyam> Hi. I tried to connect my desktop computer to my tv. I can't make it work. please help me somebody
[14:21] <bullgard4> OliveGreen: It is a better idea to not use a ppa to install Firefox. Wait for an official Ubuntu package.
[14:21] <jutnux> Peyam, what is your graphics card?
[14:22] <Peyam> jutnux: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[14:22] <OliveGreen> bullgard4, I see. Thank you.
[14:22] <jutnux> Have you installed the drivers?
[14:22] <Zegrento7> kokozedman: i'll try it out, but this happens to me with both startup disk creator or unetbootin... Somehow i need to change the permissions i think, but it doesn't let me. But thanks anyway..
[14:22] <gwelter> OliveGreen: just wait a week or so. should show by itself
[14:22] <kokozedman> Zegrento7: the flash is alright?
[14:23] <kokozedman> Zegrento7: i know, chinese, those low price and low quality flash USB drives can make your day very dark
[14:23] <Zegrento7> Yes, it works fine, i can do anything with it, the only thing i can't do is to copy from filesystem.squashfs to it
[14:24] <Zegrento7> I installed systems from it before without problems..
[14:24] <kokozedman> i see...
[14:24] <bullgard4> gwelter: But I asked for guids > 1000. So can I conclude with certainty from your message that gids with values > 1000 are simply gids fpr non-system users?
[14:24] <bullgard4> gwelter: But I asked for guids > 1000. So can I conclude with certainty from your message that gids with values > 1000 are simply gids for non-system users?
[14:25] <llutz_> bullgard4: since ubuntu uses usergroups by default, gid usually equals to uid (non system groups)
[14:25] <mzaza> I have installed php5, apache2, mysql-client, mysql-server & phpmyadmin. I tried running a PHP site an it worked probably. But when I tried running a PHP site which connects to mysql database all what I get is a blank white page. I have tested this site on windows machine running xamp and it worked probably. Any ideas?
[14:25] <suigeneris> hello
[14:25] <Peyam> jutnux:  I dont how to do
[14:25] <gwelter> bullgards: if you add an user/group yourself, it starts numbering from 1000 and up
[14:25] <Zegrento7> hi
[14:25] <jason404> are there ubuntu backpports like there are for debian? I'm using 11.04
[14:25] <gwelter> bullgard4: that's just a setting. some distros start at 500
[14:25] <jutnux> Additional Drivers Peyam
[14:26] <Peyam> jutnux:  it says no deriver
[14:26] <suigeneris> I've done something horrible and now I get 'Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery' during startup
[14:26] <suigeneris> please help
[14:26] <Peyam> jutnux:  it doesnt show any deriver.
[14:26] <llutz_> bullgard4: those things are defined in /etc/adduser.conf
[14:27] <CipherX> probably != properly
[14:28] <Peyam> jutnux:  Can you help please
[14:28] <jutnux> Peyam
[14:28] <Peyam> jutnux:  yes
[14:28] <jutnux> Have you looked in the display settings?
[14:29] <Peyam> jutnux:  yes the HDMI port is disconnect according to xrandr logs
[14:29] <jason404> hey, when I cat /etc/debian_version, I get squeeze/sid as the reply. I thought I was running natty narwal?!?!
[14:29] <Zegrento7> I'll come back later, thx for the halp, bye!
[14:29] <llutz_> jason404: lsb_release -sc
[14:30] <bullgard4> llutz_: My personal gid is 1000. I created a group »burning«. Ubuntu gave it gid=1002. In this case uid != gid. Can you comment.
[14:30] <jutnux> Are you using Ubuntu peyam?
[14:30] <Peyam> jutnux:  yes 11.10
[14:30] <jason404> llutz: thanks
[14:30] <iceroot> jason404: cat /etc/issue
[14:30] <jutnux> Go into the command line and type xrandr --auto
[14:30] <suigeneris> I've done something horrible and now I get 'Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery' during startup
[14:30] <jutnux> see what it does.
[14:30] <suigeneris> please help
[14:30] <gwelter> bullgard4: uid doesn't need to match the gid
[14:30] <jason404> yeh, I just remembered that those are debian names
[14:30] <Peyam> jutnux:  please write my name so I don't drop you
[14:30] <bullgard4> gwelter. Yes. I know that.
[14:31] <llutz_> bullgard4: you created a non-system-group, so first empty GID>1000 was taken for "burning"
[14:31] <jason404> so, are there ubuntu backpports like there are for debian? I'm using 11.04
[14:31] <bullgard4> llutz_: Thank you very much for commenting and your help.
[14:31] <jutnux> suigeneris: Can you pastebin the output of cat /etc/fstab
[14:31] <iceroot> !backports | jason404
[14:31] <llutz_> bullgard4: if you would have used adduser --system burning, it would have been <1000
[14:31] <Peyam> jutnux:  nothing comes down
[14:31] <llutz_> err addgroup sry
[14:32] <jason404> iceroot: okay thanks
[14:32] <jutnux> peyam: Did you sudo it?
[14:32] <gwelter> bullgard4: cat /etc/group so see who took 1000 and 1001
[14:32] <suigeneris> jutnux: livecd?
[14:32] <Peyam> jutnux:  no
[14:32] <bullgard4> gwelter: I did that already before I posted here in this channel.
[14:32] <jutnux> suigeneris: Skip mounting first, see what it is doing.
[14:32] <jutnux> Peyam: Do that then.
[14:32] <Peyam> jutnux:  nothiing happens.
[14:32] <gwelter> bullgard4: what are you trying to accomplish?
[14:33] <Kingeddie> Hi, im having problems with my toshiba notebook, im tryin to run a game on wine in Ubuntu 10.04 but it says ""Failed to find a suitable display device. Exiting program.", my video is Ati Radeon HD 6310 and i already installed the driver from their website, wich it works with every thing else.
[14:33] <suigeneris> jutnux: Skipping / at user request and keeps waiting
[14:34] <bullgard4> gwelter: I tried to answer the question: "What do gids mean with a value > 1000 in Ubuntu?"  As I said at the outset.
[14:35] <jutnux> suigeneris: Do you know what is not mounting?
[14:35] <gwelter> bullgard4: well, gids not created as systems gids
[14:35] <bullgard4> gwelter: Yes.
[14:35] <Peyam> jutnux: http://pastebin.com/4ig8Fcdq
[14:35] <suigeneris> jutnux: it says /tmp is not ready
[14:35] <xskydevilx> Is there an off-topic irc for ubuntu?
[14:35] <llutz_> !ot
[14:36] <jutnux> peyam: Try xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto
[14:37] <suigeneris> jutnux: and fstab says /dev/sda1 / reiserfs notail,user_xattr 0 1
[14:37] <alexxander> i'm in vietnam and facebook is blocked, can someone run through how i change my dns server to one which will give me access to blocked sites?
[14:37] <beaa> holaa
[14:37] <jutnux> alexxander: I think you'd have to run through a proxy
[14:37] <suigeneris> alexxander: /etc/resolv.conf
[14:37] <Peyam> jutnux:  the HDMI is disconnected
[14:37] <jutnux> suigeneris: Try and mount it then.
[14:37] <alexxander> how do i go about doing that?
[14:37] <Peyam> jutnux:  what do I do next
[14:37] <SunTsu> alexxander: you can try google's dns. <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:37] <jutnux> Peyam: Is it plugged in? :/
[14:38] <Peyam> jutnux: no? cous I cant see anything then. I have just tv as monitor
[14:38] <alexxander> how do i change the dns i'm running on? i'm a total newb to linux
[14:38] <suigeneris> alexxander: vim /etc/resolv.conf and put in <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:38] <munchor> Where is the emacs config file in Ubuntu? I tried ~/.emacs.d/init.el and ~/.emacs and none worked :S
[14:38] <alexxander> type that in terminal yeah?
[14:38] <suigeneris> jutnux: how?
[14:38] <iceroot> alexxander: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:39] <jutnux> suigeneris: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /
[14:39] <suigeneris> alexxander: type sudo vim /etc/resolv.conf
[14:39] <iceroot> alexxander: use that instead of vim because 1. vim is not installed by default, 2. vim is commandline, 3. sudo was missing
[14:39] <jutnux> Peyam: I'm confused as to how you are seeing anything then..
[14:39] <SunTsu> alexxander: try it first. dig www.facebook.com @<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:39] <suigeneris> jutnux: I'm in grub> prompt
[14:40] <Peyam> jutnux:  with vga
[14:40] <SunTsu> alexxander: or host www.facebook.com <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:40] <iceroot> alexxander: you can also set a dns-server with the gui using "nm-connection-editor"
[14:40] <jutnux> suigeneris: sudo fsdisk -l
[14:40] <jutnux> suigeneris: tell me the output
[14:40] <CipherX> I wouldn't have  him use vim, being new to linux/unix lol
[14:41] <jutnux> Agreed ^^
[14:41] <suigeneris> alexxander: type sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[14:41] <suigeneris> jutnux: I'm in grub> prompt, I can't type that
[14:41] <jutnux> I still think he'd be better off with a GUI app.
[14:41] <llutz_> better to check what SunTsu said before editing enything
[14:42] <SunTsu> why do you want him to change resolve.conf if nobody even knows if that dns setup works?
[14:42] <Peyam> jutnux:  what do I do?
[14:42] <xskydevilx> is there like a ppa for oneiric for firefox stable?
[14:43] <iceroot> xskydevilx: FF8 is stable
[14:43] <xskydevilx> iceowl, ff9 just came out.
[14:43] <iceroot> xskydevilx: does not change the fact that ff8 is stable and there is no need to change to the new version directly
[14:44] <xskydevilx> iceowl, I prefer to have the latest.
[14:44] <iceroot> xskydevilx: you can wait some days until ff9 hits the main-repo
[14:44] <xskydevilx> iceowl, oh, that'll take like a few weeks-
[14:45] <suigeneris> jutnux: what line am I looking for in fdisk -l?
[14:45] <bullgard4> Manchmal gibt es lustige Dinge in #ubuntu zu lesen. Z. B. gerade: "[15:37]	<alexxander>	i'm in vietnam and facebook is blocked, can someone run through how i change my dns server to one which will give me access to blocked sites?" "[15:38]	<alexxander>	how do i change the dns i'm running on? i'm a total newb to linux" --  Und nun versuchen mindestens 4 Leute, ihm zu helfen.
[14:45] <iceroot> xskydevilx: there is an official mozilla ppa (somehwere on there site)
[14:45] <iceroot> !de | bullgard4
[14:45] <VictorCL> how can I set the cursor:hand to all click events of jquery automatically?
[14:46] <iceroot> bullgard4: und noch lustiger als die tatsache dass ihm 4 leute helfen ist die tatsache dass du copy&paste nicht beherscht .)
[14:46] <llutz_> bullgard4: very funny...
[14:46] <suigeneris> VictorCL: ##jquery
[14:46] <munchor> Where is the emacs config file in Ubuntu? I tried ~/.emacs.d/init.el and ~/.emacs and none worked :S Thanks in advance.
[14:46] <VictorCL> oh sorry xD
[14:47] <starn> i'm having an issue with Games... like unreal tournament 2004 and nexus and open arena and basically any game. when i try to move my mouse it snaps to a place and won't let me rotate or select stuff in menus for it's always moving.. someone suggest due to fact i have dual monitors but thats not the issue it does it on just one.. anyone have a suggestion?? or a place i can go to, to ask?
[14:47] <munchor> starn, using Wine?
[14:47] <starn> no.. native
[14:47] <munchor> have you tried a diff. mouse?
[14:48] <starn> most games in wine work fine.. other than sometimes they don't capture the mouse.
[14:48] <starn> i do not own any other mouse nor do i have the money to get a new one.
[14:48] <iceroot> starn: you are using ut2004, nexus and open-arena with wine?
[14:48] <iceroot> starn: ah sorry missread
[14:48] <starn> without wine.
[14:48] <theadmin> starn: Sounds like some graphic drivers and/or opengl issue
[14:48] <ManDay> iceroot: Looks like there is a chance that I was wrong - at least with that gcc-4.3 is a requirement. The alleged ERROR is just a WARNING and the subsequent failure does not necessarily have to come from the version mismatch.
[14:48] <starn> i prefer to run games natively if possible.
[14:49] <starn> i use nVidia..
[14:49] <iceroot> ManDay: nice to see that you post that
[14:49] <theadmin> starn: Do you have their drivers?
[14:49] <theadmin> starn: Or do you use the open-source ones?
[14:49] <iceroot> ManDay: not everyone is saying he was wrong
[14:50] <suigeneris> who can help me?
[14:50] <starn> i use the ones from additional drivers.
[14:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:50] <suigeneris> I've done something horrible and now I get 'Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery' during startup
[14:50] <budhyjim> wewewew
[14:50] <iceroot> suigeneris: on what device? swap? /? /home?
[14:51] <suigeneris> iceroot: / I think
[14:51] <iceroot> suigeneris: and what you done before?
[14:51] <suigeneris> iceroot: no clue
[14:51] <usr13> suigeneris: So, what did you do?
[14:52] <suigeneris> iceroot: I get GRUB menu, hit to boot ubuntu, and get that message in the end
[14:52] <suigeneris> usr13: ^^
[14:52] <iceroot> suigeneris: using encryption?
[14:52] <iceroot> suigeneris: done an update before?
[14:53] <suigeneris> iceroot: nope
[14:53] <nb-ben> that's a lot of text
[14:53] <suigeneris> says 'An error occurred while mounting /'
[14:53] <gwelter> alexxander: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[14:53] <suigeneris> iceroot: ^^
[14:54] <alexxander> yeah i do: <IP_ADDRESS> should work if i can change to it
[14:54] <gwelter> alexxander: edit the nameserver to be <IP_ADDRESS> and save it
[14:54] <usr13> suigeneris: What partition is / on?
[14:54] <gwelter> alexxander: restart firefox
[14:54] <starn> i got lost.....
[14:54] <suigeneris> usr13: /dev/sda1
[14:54] <alexxander> ok buddy, but how do i do that/ like i said, total newb here...
[14:54] <usr13> suigeneris: boot the live cd and do   fsck -y /dev/sda1
[14:54] <nb-ben> alexxander, type the following: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[14:55] <usr13> suigeneris: check all of them just to be sure.
[14:55] <nb-ben> then comment out all the lines
[14:55] <nb-ben> add this line: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:55] <nb-ben> CTRL + O and enter
[14:55] <nb-ben> and then CTRL + X
[14:55] <abu-bakr> hi again folks, so what would be the best method of mounting a network share as a local drive ?
[14:55] <suigeneris> usr13: I checked /dev/sda1 and it said 'No corruptions'
[14:56] <CipherX> nfs?
[14:56] <rhin0> you use nfs or samba abu-bak - samba to network to windows
[14:56] <abu-bakr> erm.. i am a noob .. you'll have to break it down for me :s
[14:56] <alexxander> ok i've typed in the new dns, how do i save it? or do i just close it now?
[14:56] <inashdeen> hi, may i know what is ubuntu minimal
[14:56] <rhin0> !nfs
[14:57] <gwelter> alexxander: save it like nb-ben said
[14:57] <suigeneris> alexxander: what  are you using?
[14:57] <rhin0> !samba
[14:57] <suigeneris> nano?
[14:57] <nb-ben> inashdeen, it's basically debian with an ugly window manager
[14:57] <alexxander> there's no option to save
[14:57] <alexxander> i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[14:57] <gwelter> alexxander: ctrl - x and type y to confirm saving
[14:57] <alexxander> **xubuntu
[14:57] <inashdeen> nb-ben : ?
[14:57] <nb-ben> that's my description for ubuntu minimal
[14:57] <usr13> suigeneris: Ok, a little earlier, you said: "I've done something horrible".  So, what did you do?
[14:57] <inashdeen> nb-ben : how about driver and dependencies issues? is it the same with ubuntu or debian?
[14:58] <suigeneris> usr13: absolutely no clue
[14:58] <nb-ben> I am unsure, but if you can do it on ubuntu you can do it on debian
[14:58] <nb-ben> might save some hassle in that matter inashdeen
[14:58] <usr13> suigeneris: If you have absolutely no clue what you did, how do you know it is horrible?
[14:58] <inashdeen> nb-ben : i dont really understand that. could you rephrase if you dont mind :)
[14:59] <usr13> suigeneris: Did you try to boot again?
[14:59] <nb-ben> inashdeen, the ubuntu philosophy does support that it might be configuring your hardware automatically better
[14:59] <krnl> hi
[14:59] <wolfmitchell> Is there a beta version of Ubuntu out currently?
[14:59] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: no
[15:00] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[15:00] <abu-bakr> rhin0, thanks.. mine are all ubuntu machines
[15:00] <usr13> suigeneris: Could be that YOU didn't do anything at all.  Could be that you are simply experiencing a normal hardware issue,  (a hard drive failure).
[15:00] <nb-ben> inashdeen, but I have not tested it myself to give you backed statement, so I refrained from claming it does
[15:00] <wolfmitchell> Thanks
[15:00] <rhin0> well you use nfs then abu-bakr
[15:00] <abu-bakr> ok..
[15:00] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: #ubuntu+1  "just" an alpha-version
[15:00] <inashdeen> nb-ben : so where can i actually get this ubuntu minimal?
[15:00] <rhin0> it's not a "local drive" it's a drive mount
[15:00] <nb-ben> inashdeen, how do you connect to the internet?
[15:00] <abu-bakr> k
[15:01] <inashdeen> nb-ben : usb modem
[15:01] <nb-ben> inashdeen, you could download the bootonly and perform a netinstall
[15:01] <krnl> i'm triing to forward my local port 80 behind router to my server on public ip to port 8080. the command is: "ssh -R 8080:<IP_ADDRESS>:80 myserver" it listens on 8080 but only on <IP_ADDRESS> on remote server and cant access it from other computer. what am i doing wrong?
[15:01] <nb-ben> hmm
[15:01] <nb-ben> usb wireless adapter?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, there's an 12.04 alpha out that's more stable than the beta 11.10 was.
[15:01] <inashdeen> nb-ben : so that is minimal :S sight
[15:01] <nb-ben> if so then it's a cross fingers thing whether it will work or not
[15:01] <wolfmitchell> Blues-Link it?
[15:01] <nb-ben> no inashdeen , it's not the same ubuntu installation
[15:01] <nb-ben> you can install the complete ubuntu from a netinstall
[15:01] <aguitel> how install video driver for my card: amd 128 rage ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, iceroot, just did
[15:02] <abu-bakr> BluesKaj, i can believe that,,,
[15:02] <abu-bakr> /me is still traumatised by 11:10... and using 11:04 on all his machines
[15:02] <inashdeen> nb-ben : wait, i think i am lost again, how is different then?
[15:02] <nb-ben> instead of choosing "Ubuntu Desktop" when it asks you what to install, you choose "Ubuntu Minimal"
[15:02] <nb-ben> or something similar to that
[15:02] <aways> Hi all
[15:02] <aways> I'am running on natty 11.04
[15:02] <wolfmitchell> Can't find the link
[15:02] <nb-ben> it doesn't install all the things that could be unnecessary to a user
[15:02] <aways> Where I can found minidlna pls ...
[15:03] <aways> Maybe he have a new name ?
[15:03] <nb-ben> search youtube for "ubuntu minimal" if you wanna get a good grip as to what it is
[15:03] <TiMiDo> lol
[15:03] <aways> on stedy6 it's not available for natty
[15:03] <BluesKaj> abu-bakr, I'm on 12.04 , and except for the odd crash at shutdown I'm quite happy with it so far.
[15:04] <usr13> inashdeen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:04] <wolfmitchell> BluesKaj: I can't find the link anywhere.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, the link is on #ubuntu+1
[15:04] <nb-ben> BluesKaj, I just installed on a laptop and it crashed on shutdown as well I think
[15:04] <abu-bakr> BluesKaj, cool.. does it still have a gnome desktop.. (unity i can use but its just too much for a staff environment
[15:04] <nb-ben> thought it might just be something I did that would refuse to terminate
[15:04] <inashdeen> usr13: thanks, but i've read that. that is why i am asking, other than saving a bit more of 50mb, what difference does it make? http://www.ubuntu.org.uy/
[15:05] <abu-bakr> rhin0, so how would I go about performing a 'drive mount' on my normal nfs system?
[15:05] <inashdeen> sorry, wrong link =.='
[15:05] <BluesKaj> abu-bakr, i beleive so , I use kde
[15:05] <voldyman> can anyone tell me where can i get good lightdm theme???? plz
[15:05] <nb-ben> inashdeen, it doesn't make much difference unless you are disgusted by all the eye candy, very minimal on disk space, and don't wanna see apps that you never use -- ever
[15:06] <abu-bakr> Ok rhin0 has left, anyone: so how would I go about performing a 'drive mount' on my normal nfs system?
[15:06] <usr13> inashdeen: Doesn't make any difference, it's just a smaller ISO
[15:06] <wolfmitchell> I'm installing 12.04 into a virtualbox. 12.04 inside 11.10......Ubuntuception.
[15:06] <inashdeen> nb-ben : hurm, ok then :( sigh~  sorry for asking here now, how do i get into #fedora. i end up in fedora-unregistered just now
[15:06] <nb-ben> register your nick
[15:07] <llutz_> !register | inashdeen
[15:07] <nb-ben> but this is a #freenode matter, so ask about it there
[15:07] <voldyman> can anyone tell me where can i get good lightdm theme???? plz
[15:07] <nb-ben> inashdeen, I just figured you might have been talking about the minimal -CD-
[15:07] <voldyman> nothing at google
[15:07] <nb-ben> and not the minimal -desktop-
[15:07] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, chancy at best in a VB
[15:07] <inashdeen> nb-ben : yeah
[15:08] <nb-ben> if you are talking about the minimal cd, then it just doesn't have some packages on it
[15:08] <wolfmitchell> Why?
[15:08] <nb-ben> you will use the internet to get those missing packages
[15:08] <BluesKaj> stability
[15:08] <wolfmitchell> Ah.
[15:08] <nb-ben> unless you want the CD to have packages for an offline installation, there is no difference to you
[15:08] <nb-ben> since you will probably want to update the packages on the cd after installing them anyway
[15:09] <inashdeen> nb-ben : what kind of package, and where can i get it?the iso i mean
[15:09] <Pici> !who
[15:09] <nb-ben> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+minimal+cd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[15:09] <voldyman> is it possible to install gdm themes in ubuntu 11.10
[15:09] <nb-ben> first result is it lol
[15:10] <nb-ben> yes voldyman
[15:10] <abu-bakr> !tab
[15:10] <voldyman> HOW???
[15:10] <BluesKaj> normally the official releases are recommended for VB , due to updates/upgrades required on alpha/beta releases , which sometimes don't play so nice on VB setups wolfmitchell
[15:10] <wolfmitchell> How do I put a user into a group on 11.10
[15:10] <abu-bakr> oh .. nice
[15:10] <wolfmitchell> Qh
[15:10] <nb-ben> wolfmitchell, same way as with every other ubuntu
[15:10] <wolfmitchell> *Ah
[15:10] <llutz_> wolfmitchell: sudo adduser user group
[15:11] <nb-ben> wolfmitchell, or usermod if the user exists but you want to change their group
[15:11] <abu-bakr> Ok rhin0 has left, anyone: so how would I go about performing a 'drive mount' ?
[15:11] <llutz_> usermod is a nice way to mess up your sudo-users
[15:11] <nb-ben> or you could manually edit /etc/passwd as root if you're into doing things wrong
[15:11] <nb-ben> yep
[15:11] <abu-bakr> nb-ben: lol
[15:11] <geirha> abu-bakr: What's a "drive mount"?
[15:11] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.
[15:11] <diatomaceous> "
[15:12] <voldyman> nb-ben, how do i install gdm theme?
[15:12] <abu-bakr> geirha: just trying to get a network share loaded locally , similar to a local drive
[15:12] <abu-bakr> but ive been told its called a 'drive mount' :P
[15:12] <nb-ben> voldyman, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=install+gdm+themes+on+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[15:12] <nb-ben> lol
[15:12] <voldyman> nb-ben, real classy
[15:12] <nb-ben> well you didn't do it yourself
[15:12] <nb-ben> and to know this is what I would have to do
[15:13] <voldyman> try lmgtfy.com
[15:13] <Pici> nb-ben: If you don't know the answer to a question, you don't need to answer.
[15:13] <nb-ben> the answer is google
[15:13] <nb-ben> to 90% of the questions
[15:13] <voldyman> well i tried google but nothing for 11.10
[15:13] <Pici> !google | nb-ben
[15:14] <nb-ben> most likely someone else wrote an answer better than me somewhere on the web
[15:14] <nb-ben> I don't tell them to google, I google for them
[15:14] <geirha> abu-bakr: Ah, you add a line to /etc/fstab, something like:  <IP_ADDRESS>:/sharename /media/somedir nfs rw,hard,intr,netdev 0 0
[15:14] <Pici> voldyman: 11.10 doesn't use GDM by default, we use lightdm.
[15:14] <abu-bakr> Does anyone know how  I can go about performing a 'drive mount' ?
[15:14] <nb-ben> while a confused mind might mistake between the two, they are different things
[15:14] <voldyman> i know i couldn't find lightdm greeters so i installed gdm
[15:14] <abu-bakr> oh geirha, thanks for that
[15:15] <geirha> abu-bakr: Assuming you mean you want it mounted all the time
[15:15] <wolfmitchell> I don't have the userman command
[15:15] <abu-bakr> geirha: yes,, but i would prefer a GUI way of doing it if poss
[15:15] <Pici> voldyman: I don't believe  that the version of GDM that we ship (and that GNOME supports) supports the old gdm themes.
[15:15] <Ziggy`> Would you guys advice me against upgrading ubuntu from ssh?
[15:15] <abu-bakr> or minimal command line.. (eye ate tha command line!!!)
[15:16] <llutz_> wolfmitchell: if you don't even know that the app is called "usermod" you shouldn't use it at all. use adduser
[15:16] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, should be no different to normal
[15:16] <geirha> abu-bakr: I'm afraid I don't know of any GUIs to do that. They may exist though.
[15:16] <voldyman> so i should remove gdm and find lightdm greeters????
[15:16] <Pici> Ziggy`: I do it. But ymmv.
[15:16] <wolfmitchell> ...
[15:16] <Ziggy`> Gentoo64: If the internet goes off, will it keep going?
[15:16] <Ziggy`> Gentoo64: I'm upgrading from 9.1 to latest
[15:16] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, i think the upgrades are nteractive
[15:16] <nb-ben> Ziggy`, if something breaks and SSH doesn't work, is there somebody you can call to fix it?
[15:16] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, so it could be risky
[15:17] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: most likely not atm..
[15:17] <voldyman> Pici, any site you know with a good lightm theme? gnome-look.org had nothing
[15:17] <Pici> Ziggy`: I highly suggest running the upgrade in a screen session.
[15:17] <geirha> abu-bakr: This should also be worth a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS_Client
[15:17] <nb-ben> well assuming it does break, will it be okay if it's being fixed later?
[15:17] <Gentoo64> yeah
[15:17] <SEABird> Any grub2 wizards or guru? pvt me
[15:17] <Pici> voldyman: I've never looked for one, sorry.  I thought that we had some greeter packages in the repositories  though.
[15:17] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: Not really :/
[15:17] <SEABird> please
[15:17] <nb-ben> then way for later to be now
[15:17] <nb-ben> and upgrade later
[15:18] <voldyman> i'll try
[15:18] <voldyman> thanks pici
[15:18] <Ziggy`> Okay, I'm gonna need a solution then for now to at least upgrade a few packages,.
[15:18] <VictorCL> I have many problems opeinng rar file s.. always 20% of files I try to uncompresss fail
[15:18] <the_> grub wizars:ubuntu server4 reload dik follow through
[15:18] <nb-ben> Ziggy`, upgrading specific non-critical packages is fine
[15:19] <BluesKaj> SEABird, best to just ask your question in the channel , support here isn't exclusive
[15:19] <nb-ben> I thoguht you wanted to do a kernel upgrade or something that could potentially kick you out of OpenSSH
[15:19] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: "... is already the newest version", Do I need to change my sources.list to get a newer version? I know a newer version has been released.
[15:19] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: I do, but I'll wait for it atm.
[15:19] <SEABird> Thanks BluesKaj
[15:19] <nb-ben> Ziggy`, well, it's normally better to wait until the packages are being added to ubuntu and not go bleeding edge
[15:20] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, tbh if you're upgrading from 9 to 11 its got a high chance of breaking even without ssh
[15:20] <Gentoo64> or are you sdtaying on 9?
[15:20] <nb-ben> unless you really need it then just don't upgrade
[15:20] <Ziggy`> Gentoo64: I'll let 9.10 do for now, just upgraded from a way older version.
[15:20] <Pici> Ziggy`: You may want to upgrade just to 10.04 and then to 12.04 when it is released.
[15:21] <SEABird> I need to remove grub2 from a 11.10 install - any warnings about damaging boot sector if I do on dual boot Win7/Ubuntu machine?
[15:21] <wolfmitchell> Added my user to the 'vboxusers' group.
[15:22] <nb-ben> SEABird, make a USB stick with grub on it
[15:22] <nb-ben> and write down the boot commands for both windows/linux
[15:22] <BluesKaj> SEABird, why do you "need" to remove grub?
[15:22] <nficano> I'm using ubuntu 10.04, and notice SOME aptitude package are buggy, and I find myself downloading the lastest ones and compiling them fom the source. This got me wonder whether or not appending references for up-to-date versions to sources.list is considered bad practice, and if so, what's the generally accepted alternative?
[15:22] <Gentoo64> SEABird, i take it you're installling windows 7 after ubuntu?
[15:22] <Gentoo64> if so jjust reinstall grub
[15:24] <nb-ben> nficano, shouldn't be buggy
[15:24] <the_> put disk in drive as if to reinstall server;instructions for grub come up without destroying data-all extra grub will be ersed and it'll be as brand new
[15:25] <nficano> well I noticed it with rabbitmq specifically, perhaps that was an anomaly
[15:27] <nficano> nb-ben: but sounds like leaving this as-is is a discouraged practice, so you more or less answered my question. thanks!
[15:28] <nficano> nb-ben: altering it rather excuse me*
[15:28] <Pici> nficano: What sort of sources are you adding to your sources.list?
[15:28] <SEABird> I want to kill 11.04 - Unity is unstable and Software Center disappears, and launcher is clunky - want to remove total install and go back to BSD
[15:28] <Pici> nficano: You shouldn't mix repositories intended for newer releases of Ubuntu with an older release.
[15:28] <JosephHarrietha> Hmm, is there anyway to get nautilus to have the behaviour of, "If I copy 1.png into a directory with a 1.png, it gives me the option to rename the file to 1(1).png and do so for all conflicting files"
[15:29] <Gentoo64> SEABird, ok
[15:29] <abu-bakr> geirha: thanks for the link. I think that's just what i needed :)
[15:29] <Gentoo64> go back to bsd then :/
[15:29] <nb-ben> nficano, packages in the ubuntu repositories should not be buggy unless you have some driver issues or modified things to break them from installing correctly
[15:29] <mattybats> how do i disable wpa_supplicant temporarily while running network-manager? (10.04)
[15:29] <nb-ben> nficano, anything from other repositories is a different deal
[15:29] <JosephHarrietha> Sorta like the windows behaviour. Its one of the few things that keeps me using windows. If you want to see what I mean, make 1.png 2.png and 3.png on windows, and copy them to a folder, then move the orginals into that folder, and look at the third option
[15:30] <alvasrawuther> I'm having problems with making a persistent Ubuntu Live USB Drive. Can anyone help me?
[15:30] <SEABird> problem is I cannot uninstall grub2
[15:30] <CipherX> ubuntu sayz bai
[15:30] <nb-ben> nficano, and if a package from an ubuntu repository is being buggy, you should submit it as a bug to the bug tracker
[15:30] <Gentoo64> SEABird, install bsd itll ioverride it
[15:30] <CipherX> yea any installs you do on bsd will overwrite that stuff
[15:31] <SEABird> okay, I will try but I am a
[15:31] <CipherX> pirate?
[15:31] <CipherX> ninja?
[15:31] <JosephHarrietha> Duck?
[15:31] <Pici> !ot
[15:31] <CipherX> lol
[15:31] <Gentoo64> duck billed platypus?
[15:31] <edbian> l33t haxor
[15:32] <JosephHarrietha> Pirate Ninja Duck Billed Platypus?
[15:32] <coz_> !offtopic
[15:32] <Pici> And now back to your requglarly scheduled support channel.
[15:32] <CipherX> apparently he is someone who leaves without completing his sentences
[15:32] <edbian> !offtopic-but-funny
[15:33] <nb-ben> !otbf
[15:33] <nficano> ah okay, I was building out a new box, figured I'd inquire about best practice regarding adding newer sources to lists since I've had problems with versions of redis and rabbitmq I've installed with aptitude in the past
[15:33] <JosephHarrietha> -.^ okay, so does anybody have an awnser about my question from befor?
[15:33] <Pici> nficano: Again, what do you mean by 'newer sources'?
[15:33] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, I wasn't here.  What's your question?
[15:34] <JosephHarrietha> Hmm, is there anyway to get nautilus to have the behaviour of, "If I copy 1.png into a directory with a 1.png, it gives me the option to rename the file to 1(1).png and do so for all conflicting files"
[15:34] <JosephHarrietha> Sorta like the windows behaviour. Its one of the few things that keeps me using windows. If you want to see what I mean, make 1.png 2.png and 3.png on windows, and copy them to a folder, then move the orginals into that folder, and look at the third option
[15:34] <nb-ben> Pici, like adding the wine repository to get the bleeding edge version of wine
[15:34] <Gentoo64> ppas arent supported tho
[15:34] <Pici> nb-ben: As long as those repositories are designed for that particular release of Ubuntu.
[15:34] <tomodach1> JosephHarrietha: i dont know of such a feature at least, but i think midnight commander has the feature built in
[15:34] <JosephHarrietha> Question, why is it called "Bleeding edge" .... that sounds a little... sadistic?
[15:35] <tomodach1> at least it had when I used it in dos
[15:35] <nb-ben> nficano, in your case I'd probably just compile those specific  packages
[15:35] <tomodach1> JosephHarrietha: because it sometimes is
[15:35] <nb-ben> better than fiddling with your sources list
[15:35] <JosephHarrietha> tomodach1, Okay.... Does nautilus have an API or something I could use to code such a feauture, and will it work with C++ or objective-C ?
[15:35] <Pici> nb-ben: I completely disagree.
[15:36] <JosephHarrietha> Okay, ObjectC obviously not... but... heh, ive been wrong before.
[15:36] <xpc> hi cvk. az egochat ures:-(
[15:36] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, installing stuff from source mixing with a distro that has a package manager is a mess
[15:36] <Gentoo64> id avoid it
[15:36] <nficano> ok for lucis the lastest verison of redis is 2.1.2, but according to their site, 2.4.4 is the lastest stable version
[15:36] <nb-ben> it's only a mess if you make a mess
[15:36] <Pici> nb-ben: It is safer to use package mangagement whenever possible.
[15:36] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, There are nautilus extensions and nautilus scripts.  google a little and you'll find both
[15:36] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, You could write one yourself but there might already be one that does what you want.  I've never really used them so I can't say for sure.
[15:36] <Pici> nficano: Despite PPA's being "unsupported" I highly suggest them over installing from source.
[15:37] <tomodach1> JosephHarrietha: I dont know , you should check in the dev chan for nautilus possibly, ojective c? i doubt it
[15:37] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, tomodach1 nautilus is written in c
[15:37] <JosephHarrietha> edbian, Thanks :) I look around. I have to reinstall windows soon... I may have kinda..sorta...maybe killed it when I was writing a virus to see if I could......
[15:37] <nb-ben> we got a hacker on our hands..
[15:38] <nb-ben> ;)
[15:38] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, If this is the only feature that's holding you back I suggest you forget about it.
[15:38] <nficano> Pici: alright, will do - but for my own edification, why?
[15:38] <edbian> nficano, for one, packages installed via a PPA can always be uninstalled
[15:38] <nb-ben> and others can't?
[15:38] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, they can ofc
[15:39] <nb-ben> so how is that a +
[15:39] <Gentoo64> but ppas that way everything ios apt-get remove
[15:39] <Pici> nficano: Because unless you know what you are doing, package management makes it easier to manage dependencies and uninstallation than building from source .
[15:39] <Gentoo64> its all the same
[15:39] <nb-ben> also
[15:39] <JosephHarrietha> edbian, Can't, it's something I use daily. I have a a directory of over 1000 files that have names 1.png, 2.png , etc untill 12. and I add new ones to it daily with the same names, that all need to be renamed. I add them in batches of 50-80
[15:39] <nb-ben> why would you need to remove it
[15:39] <nb-ben> you can just stop using it
[15:39] <Pici> nb-ben: Many source packages do not provide a make uninstall target.
[15:39] <nb-ben> and your package manager can overwrite it if it needs to
[15:39] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, alright.  too bad :(  hopefully there is a script / extensions
[15:39] <Pici> nb-ben: Thats not always feasible or desired.
[15:39] <nb-ben> you could want to remove it, which is also fine
[15:39] <nb-ben> and you can
[15:40] <nb-ben> but except for saving disk space there is no need
[15:40] <JosephHarrietha> edbian, I'll probably figure out a small script to do it for me with bash or something if not. I'd rather not work with the gnome people again... Lmao.
[15:40] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, for the record you could probably whip up a bash / python script that does this sort of thing for you (possibly easier than the gui in windows)
[15:40] <Peyam> hej please help me connect my computer to my tv.
[15:40] <edbian> :P
[15:40] <Peyam> with hdmi
[15:40] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, you dont seem to understand why peopel prefer package managers. thats why 99% of distros have one
[15:40] <nb-ben> you can't break your OS by manually installing something that is not previously installed by the package manager
[15:40] <JosephHarrietha> Alright, thanks, byye. Off to enjoy windows non-live installation...... Ugh.
[15:40] <nficano> Pici: absolutely, but ease of management doesn't really outweight stability (in the case of rabbitMQ), is there any other benefits?
[15:40] <nb-ben> if it's already installed, then ya, you might break
[15:40] <Pici> nb-ben: yes you can.
[15:41] <nb-ben> but not that you can't remove and reinstall
[15:41] <nb-ben> how
[15:41] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, most packages are either in the official repos, or in ppa. so why use source oveer them
[15:41] <nb-ben> tell me what to do to break my system
[15:41] <Pici> nb-ben: Discarding that, no. If you feel comfortable with it you may install from source.
[15:41] <nb-ben> by installing a package, that is not previously installed
[15:41] <edbian> nb-ben, If you install something from source you don't always know where it dumps files.  Things go everywhere in linux.  That's why having a package manager is great.  It can uninstall with one button instead of a laborious search and purge
[15:41] <edbian> nb-ben, And that's just one feature
[15:42] <nb-ben> edbian, if I took the time to manually install it
[15:42] <nb-ben> I probably took the time to manually configure it
[15:42] <nb-ben> so I do know where it dumps
[15:42] <edbian> nb-ben, so?  How does that determine where all the files went?
[15:42] <edbian> nb-ben, So you write this all down?  so that when you uninstall 3 years later you can look it back up and then cd all around and rm stuff?  The package manager is doing this all for you
[15:42] <pangolin> Guys this is going into off topic territory
[15:42] <Pici> nficano: There are many places where files can go that will change the what
[15:42] <nb-ben> I suppose for someone who doesn't know how to look at a makefile that makes sense
[15:42] <edbian> nb-ben, It really is objectively easier
[15:42] <Pici> pangolin: You're right.
[15:43] <nb-ben> pangolin, we are discussing ubuntu best practices
[15:43] <nb-ben> if we were on slackware this topic would be irrelevant
[15:43] <edbian> nb-ben, Even if you do read the make-file, using the package manager to uninstall is easier
[15:43] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, its all about how much easier package managers make things thats all
[15:43] <Pici> We're really moving into discussion territory.  I'd be glad to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[15:43] <pangolin> the best practice is to use the package manager. End of story as far as ubuntu is concerned, further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[15:43] <nb-ben> alright
[15:44] <nficano> pangolin: ok, thank you - accepted as far as I'm concerted.
[15:45] <pangolin> thank you all for understanding :)
[15:45] <edbian> I do not understand with great severity!!
[15:46] <abu-bakrLaptop> !clone
[15:47] <edbian> hahaha
[15:47] <edbian> how simple and easy that is!
[15:47] <Peyam> please soomebody help me
[15:47] <Peyam> with my hdmi.
[15:48] <edbian> Peyam, you plugged this thing into both ends right?
[15:48] <Peyam> edbian:  tes
[15:48] <Peyam> yes
[15:48] <edbian> Peyam, the hdmi cable?  Turn the TV on, make sure the cable is plugged in, restart the machine (all the while leaving the cable plugged in and the TV on)
[15:48] <abu-bakrLaptop> !clone
[15:48] <Peyam> edbian: Ive tried it
[15:48] <Peyam> nothing happens
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, does the machine boot up normally?
[15:49] <abu-bakrLaptop> !clone
[15:49] <Peyam> no. I cant hear nything
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, i.e. the laptop monitor is on normally and the TV is not on?
[15:49] <Peyam> edbian: t is a desktop computer
[15:49] <wolfmitchell> I thought that the torrent would have hundreds of peers for 12.04
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, you can't hear anything?  Did you expect to hear things?
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, ok, does the desktop monitor come on like normal?
[15:49] <Peyam> edbian:  nothing . i can hear and see anythin
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, What did you expect to hear?
[15:50] <Peyam> edbian: I use my tv as a monitor.
[15:50] <edbian> Peyam, ...
[15:50] <edbian> what?
[15:50] <Peyam> edbian:  I wan see the screen . everything as I do with a vga
[15:50] <edbian> Peyam, yeah, I get that.  What are you expecting to hear?  You said you can't hear anything?
[15:50] <Peyam> Peyam:  well the startup voice..
[15:51] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.
[15:52] <edbian> Peyam, ok, nevermind.  Unplug the cable, restart the machine, then open the 'displays' gui thingy (assuming you're running Ubuntu 11.04)
[15:52] <stevegza> hi does anybody know what time the ZA Monthly irc meeting is tonight
[15:52] <Peyam> edbian: 11.10 ive done it many times.
[15:52] <edbian> Peyam, sorry, yeah 11.10
[15:53] <edbian> Peyam, open the gui settings for 'displays' plug the cable in, turn on the TV, and then click 'detect displays'
[15:53] <edbian> and see if the TV comes up,
[15:53] <Peyam> edbian:  I have one tv. the vga cable should be plugged in.
[15:54] <Peyam> edbian: And it will detect the tv via vga
[15:54] <edbian> Peyam, umm, are we using hdmi or vga ?
[15:55] <Peyam> edbian:  right now vga . becouse I cant see anything with hdmi
[15:55] <edbian> Peyam, oohhh, I see.  You have 1 monitor.  It's on VGA and you want to use HDMI with it?
[15:55] <edbian> Peyam, that's a much tougher problem...
[15:55] <Peyam> edbian: yes
[15:55] <edbian> Peyam, I'm not sure.  I've never done anything like this!
[15:55] <edbian> :(
[15:55] <edbian> sorry
[15:55] <Peyam> :(
[15:56] <abu-bakr> !ssh
[15:57] <wolfmitchell> !scp
[15:58] <CipherX> !sudo rmdir /*
[15:58] <abu-bakr> anyone work with ssh?
[15:58] <devsys> hey all -- I have a permissions question. I have a directory which has userA as the user and GroupA as the group. I want to set it so that when UserA creates a file in this directory, it inherits the permissions from GroupA as well. I did a chmod g+s which got me halfway there -- new files are now in the groupA group, but the permissons are not set. What am I missing?
[15:58] <edbian> CipherX, ?
[15:58] <edbian> abu-bakr, all the time!
[15:59] <ManDay> Does anyone know how to solve the error   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++ ?
[15:59] <llutz_> devsys: use POSIX acl (getfacl, setfacl). you cannot do it with limited linux-permissions
[15:59] <abu-bakr> edbian: cool.. i'm trying to get Rsync on this machine to backup home directories on other ubuntu machines.. was thinking i might use ssh to create a drive mount?
[15:59] <abu-bakr> or is there an easier way edbian
[16:00] <devsys> llutz_: OK I'll have tio google I'm tottally in the dark
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, yeah, rsync user@remote-machine:/some/path/ /some/local/path
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, You can just talk about remote machines like that and it will ssh for you and copy things to /some/local/path/
[16:00] <abu-bakr> edbian: ok.. so i dont need to install anything?
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, the remote machine must be an ssh server (which is not installed by default)
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, the local machine needs rsync, (IDK if that's installed)
[16:01] <kernelpanicker> I chmodded /etc/sudoers to 740, not knowing about visudo, and now all users are locked out.  It's on a VM so using a CD is not going to be easy... helpity help.
[16:01] <abu-bakr> aah edbian, thought so.. now since it has the term 'server' in it.. will it have a large impact on the remote machines performance?
[16:01] <devsys> getfacl
[16:01] <devsys> whoops
[16:01] <edbian> abu-bakr, no
[16:01] <abu-bakr> as i will be having to do this on all remote machines..
[16:02] <edbian> abu-bakr, If you do a lot of rsync's from this server at once it will become slow (perhaps obviously
[16:02] <root_wensa> bagaimana cara menampilkan menu accessoris yang hilang di ubuntu ?
[16:02] <Pici> !id | root_wensa
[16:02] <abu-bakr> ok.. i don't mind this machine becoming slow when syncing.. their only small 2 min syncs
[16:03] <abu-bakr> but i want to avoid any additional load on the user machines
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, then it won't make the machine slow.  It will probably make the network all these machines are sharing slow
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, The load on the user machines in minimal using rysnc
[16:03] <root_wensa> thanks Pici
[16:03] <abu-bakr> edbian: .. and the ssh server?
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, You will not notice a difference while it is rsyncing on the client if there is only one rsync process going
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, the ssh server will become slow if there are many rsync processes going at once
[16:04] <abu-bakr> ic.. only one way to find out for sure..
[16:04] <edbian> abu-bakr, that's right!
[16:04] <mzaza> I have installed php5, apache2, mysql-client, mysql-server & phpmyadmin. I tried running a PHP site an it worked probably. But when I tried running a PHP site which connects to mysql database all what I get is a blank white page. I have tested this site on windows machine running xamp and it worked probably. Any ideas?
[16:04] <abu-bakr> i'll go ahead and install it.. and the ssh server will run all the time right?
[16:04] <mneptok> edbian: the host machine could also become slow if rsync is asked to sync 50,000,000,000 1K files, and has to build that list.
[16:05] <mzaza> Only the <title> tags showup
[16:05] <edbian> abu-bakr, yeah, that's the nature of a server.  It is always running waiting for connections
[16:05] <edbian> mneptok, oh really!  Never knew that :)
[16:05] <root_wensa> how to display the menu accessoris missing in ubuntu?
[16:05] <abu-bakr> mneptok: lol :)
[16:06] <mzaza> Any ideas?
[16:06] <mneptok> edbian: if you are being sarcastic, and you *did* know that, your comment "then it won't make the machine slow" was a misfire. :)
[16:06] <abu-bakr> ok.. guys.. sorry to be a pain about this.. but is there at all a less impactful way to mount a remote share on this machine to be able to rsync than the remote ssh servers?
[16:07] <edbian> mneptok, no, honestly, didn't know that :)
[16:07] <edbian> mneptok, you're right
[16:07] <edbian> abu-bakr, no (I don't it)
[16:07] <edbian> abu-bakr, this is probably the lightest weight way
[16:07] <abu-bakr> cool
[16:07] <mneptok> edbian: that "building file list" part of an rsync goes by quickly. until it doesn't. and the sysadmin is sitting there looking at it build a list, and thinking "no lunch today" ;)
[16:08] <edbian> abu-bakr, Additionally, I doubt you will notice any slow-ness while you're rsyncing
[16:08] <thegladiator> any software for night display in laptops ?
[16:08] <edbian> mneptok, haha
[16:08] <mneptok> abu-bakr: the only performance downside with SSH is also one of it's greatest upsides. encryption.
[16:08] <jutnux> Howdy ho.
[16:08] <edbian> abu-bakr, we're splitting hairs.  Try it and see how little it affects the speed of the machine
[16:09] <abu-bakr> ok apt-get gave me 3 options..
[16:09] <abu-bakr> is it the openssh one i should go for?
[16:09] <abu-bakr> edbian, you're right.. thanks
[16:09] <mneptok> abu-bakr: openssh-server
[16:10] <abu-bakr> thegladiator, there is something out there.. was an item on 'the gadget show' UK channel 5.. (it uses plenty cpu though for some users)
[16:11] <abu-bakr> thegladiator: you mean to adjust the display for night time usage ?
[16:11] <heri> www.facebook.com
[16:11] <Guest56133> localhost
[16:12] <Guest56133> lnl
[16:12] <deej1976> Guest56133, Do you have a question about ubuntu ?
[16:12] <mneptok> Livermore National Labs?
[16:12] <Guest56133> pkbm-provinsi.co.id
[16:12] <mneptok> Guest56133: please stop
[16:12] <abu-bakr> whats the deal with the weblinks?
[16:12] <Guest56133> o
[16:13] <Guest56133> pkbm-provinsi.co.id
[16:13] <abu-bakr> trying to see how quick the kick is?
[16:13] <llutz_> too slow obviously
[16:13] <abu-bakr> lol
[16:15] <abu-bakr> ermm.. ok.. the ssh service is running and i think the terminal said the keys have been created? but how do i stick them into rsync on this machine?
[16:16] <yumbo> abu-bakr, look in your ssh config
[16:16] <abu-bakr> oic..
[16:16] <abu-bakr> erm, yumbo is there a GUI way of doing that?
[16:16] <llutz_> !info grsync | abu-bakr
[16:16] <conntrack> :(
[16:17] <yumbo> abu-bakr: gksu gedit /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[16:17] <yumbo> llutz: not really helping?
[16:17] <abu-bakr> yumbo: thanks, that file should contain a key I copy over to this machine??
[16:17] <llutz_> yumbo: if one asks for GUI editor, he won't be happy with rsync
[16:18] <abu-bakr> lol
[16:18] <mneptok> abu-bakr: you only need to deal with keys if you are going to use key-based authentication. if you use passwords, you don;t need to do anything.
[16:18] <llutz_> abu-bakr: ssh-copy-id   to spread your key to the hosts
[16:18] <abu-bakr> well rsync works for the local backup but now need to do remote machines
[16:18] <mneptok> abu-bakr: and host keys really never get moved anywhere
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[16:18] <yumbo> abu-bakr, I have rsync setup myself, dont need to fiddle with keys really
[16:18] <somsip> !netsplit | xskydevilx
[16:18] <mneptok> abu-bakr: go to the machine that does NOT have an ssh server
[16:19] <yumbo> abu-bakr, it automatically uses the password of the user who started the rsync server
[16:19] <abu-bakr> ok cool
[16:19] <mneptok> abu-bakr: rsync -avh -e ssh --delete /path/to/original /path/to/backup/
[16:20] <abu-bakr> i'm on the machine (client) that has rsync running and want to backup a remote machine using its ssh server ..
[16:20] <mneptok> abu-bakr: add "user@host:" before the path on the machine WITH ssh
[16:20] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.   I told the guy wanting to install the worlt to run "sudo apt-get install * && sudo rm -rf /"
[16:21] <wolfmitchell> He ran it
[16:21] <abu-bakr> mneptok: yep
[16:21] <mneptok> wolfmitchell: unfunny, and mentioning that command again will get you banned.
[16:21] <abu-bakr> wolfmitchell: and thats funny because?
[16:22] <xskydevilx> I've been having this problem when trying to install Chrome. http://paste.ubuntu.com/776488/
[16:22] <llutz_> wolfmitchell: the idiot is you
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> Ok....
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> (I'll tell him to Ctrl+D"
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> )
[16:22] <OerHeks> wolfmitchell, please don't suggest that here, join offtopic for chit chat
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[16:22] <mneptok> abu-bakr: rsync -avh -e ssh --delete 'user@host:/path/to/stuff/' /path/to/backup/
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> Sorry
[16:23] <scud> while using rar. how would I extract only a jpg file from the archive?  example, the archive would have   file1.jpg file2.txt file3.html.  how would I only extract the jpg file from the achive?
[16:23] <llutz_> scud: unrar e foo.rar file.jpg
[16:24] <abu-bakr> mneptok: ok sorry i should have mentioned.. although i am using rsync ( :s ) its actually running through a prog called 'lucky backup' (cheesy i know, but it worked ..lol)
[16:24] <mneptok> abu-bakr: never used it. and i have no intention of looking at it. ;)
[16:24] <scud> llutz_: correct. but what if I don't know the filename off the top of my head and want to script it?  can I do *jpg?
[16:25] <abu-bakr> mneptok: so there is places to enter ssh info but it would be better for me if the terminal command was broken down and explained a little?
[16:25] <abu-bakr> mneptok: i respect that :P
[16:25] <scud> llutz_: I was executing     find ./ -exec rar e {} \;     but that will extract all files
[16:25] <scud> I only want the jpg in the archive files
[16:25] <abu-bakr> meaning that if i just follow the terminal command you are providing, i wont know how to do it again later
[16:25] <abu-bakr> or will i?
[16:26] <dr_willis> check the docs for rar, it might support '*.jpg' scud . (note the quotes around the argument)
[16:26] <llutz_> scud: idk, unrar -l foo.rar first,  try it
[16:26] <scud> llutz_: you helped me
[16:26] <scud> rar e archive.rar *jpg  works
[16:26] <dr_willis> ive seen some archive tools that support getting passed wildcards. you just need to watchout that they dont match files in the current directory
[16:27] <dr_willis> if you had a file called foojpg in the current dir. that might not work scud
[16:27] <mneptok> abu-bakr: "man rsync"
[16:27] <dr_willis> '*.jpg' might work better.
[16:27] <scud> ok
[16:27] <abu-bakr> ?
[16:27] <mneptok> abu-bakr: also, there are TONS of tutorials for rsync on the web
[16:27] <abu-bakr> ok..
[16:28] <yumbo> abu-bakr, using ubuntu on both machines?
[16:28] <abu-bakr> yumbo: yup
[16:28] <mneptok> abu-bakr: learning a GUI program for rsync is, IMO, a waste of time. why not learn the actual underlying technology?
[16:28] <scud> man this rocks
[16:28] <scud> find ./ -exec rar e {} *.jpg \;   just saved my wrist 2 hours of work
[16:28] <sl33k_> i had some folder in windows c drive. how can i search for it in ubuntu?
[16:29] <yumbo> Ive used the GUI program for rsync: its pretty much the CLI but then with several boxes where you can turn on/off switches (like -g or -s)
[16:29] <llutz_> pretty much uselss in most cases
[16:29] <abu-bakr> erm.. ........... tough question.. let me think.. well my number one reason for not liking any command line (although I do enjoy it a little but thats besides the point) is that I want ubuntu etc to be Windows beaters and the less command line the better for that purpose..
[16:29] <yumbo> actually, no
[16:30] <sl33k_> nvm i found it
[16:30] <yumbo> the main reason I love linux is the fact that so many tools are cli-build
[16:30] <yumbo> this way I can write a whole rsync script and only have to type its name and it will backup *everything*
[16:30] <SmartTowel> is there a fix for mysql workbench on 11.11?
[16:30] <llutz_> abu-bakr: backups have to be done by the system, not the users. they shouldn't have to deal with it, because in most cases they won't do it at all
[16:31] <mneptok> abu-bakr: i classify "people doing remote backups" and "people that cannot use the command line" in very, VERY different boxes.
[16:31] <yumbo> mneptok, lol
[16:31] <mneptok> abu-bakr: IOW, if you cannot use a Unix shell, you will NOT be doing sysadmin tasks on my production machines.
[16:31] <abu-bakr> mneptok: and i am not a tech.. (used to be .. 10 years ago) but now I am just a business owner/peace activist and want tech that all people can use and would prefer actually techs to develop GUI stuff that is useful for everybody
[16:32] <yumbo> abu-bakr, one reason to do that: learn CLI, build the GUI's yourself ;)
[16:33] <abu-bakr> i'm just 'having' to be the tech at my company at the moment.. (until i can get someone else to do it :P )
[16:33] <compdoc> poor company
[16:33] <abu-bakr> lol
[16:33] <mneptok> abu-bakr: there are reasons that scalpels and forceps do not come with detailed instructions. you are expected to learn the fundamentals of surgery before handling them. average end users have no business running remote rsyncs.
[16:34] <abu-bakr> mneptok: true but i have a business necessity and cannot afford a surgeon :D
[16:34] <mneptok> abu-bakr: if a user needs a remote rsync, the sysadmin builds them a shell script.
[16:34] <abu-bakr> thats why i have you guys :D
[16:35] <abu-bakr> mneptok: oic.. so the terminal line earlier was to do that right/
[16:35] <yumbo> its not difficult to do a "man rsync" and then build a simple #! /bin/bash script
[16:35] <abu-bakr> man rsync?
[16:36] <yumbo> man is the manual page command, very helpful most times
[16:36] <llutz_> setup rsnapshot on a backup-server once, create a cron-job and nobody ever will have to fiddle with that again manually
[16:36] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to use the Boost.Test library on Ubuntu Natty on my application which uses libtool and more specifically ltdl. It would appear there is a conflict as the Boost.Test shared library is statically compiled using ltdl 1.5, which generates undefined references in my code. Any idea on who to contact regarding this?
[16:36] <compdoc> man is manual - the docs, in other words
[16:36] <abu-bakr> compdoc: thanks
[16:37] <Pici> crashanddie: I'd start by asking in #ubuntu-app-devel, but keep in mind that it has a much lower volume than this channel. I suppose the developer mailing list may also be a good place.
[16:37] <crashanddie> Pici, thanks
[16:38] <Arizona_Bay> hey whats the best music software that lets me drag music in the current play list/queue
[16:38] <Arizona_Bay> ?
[16:40] <Tech-1> vlc
[16:40] <yumbo> Arizona_Bay, Rhythmbox can do that
[16:40] <Arizona_Bay> Thanks! ill try it out :D
[16:40] <Arizona_Bay> Vlc isnt it for movies?
[16:40] <abu-bakr> hmmm... rsync just gave me a command to type and its started the backup but its not saved as a task in the software ..
[16:40] <Arizona_Bay> ive never used Vlc for music
[16:41] <yumbo> vlc is mainly for videos indeed, but it can play music too
[16:41] <Tech-1> works great
[16:41] <abu-bakr> i prefer banshee
[16:41] <Tech-1> amarok 1.4 aka pana works pretty good too
[16:42] <yumbo> dont you need like 300 kde-libs for that to work, Tech-1 ?
[16:42] <Tech-1> no, just ruby1.8
[16:42] <yumbo> oh, nice
[16:42] <Tech-1> workd real nice
[16:42] <carson_ward> i got away from banshee for a while...  just loaded the new...   really nice now
[16:43] <Tech-1> yumbo:  theres a .deb package for it
[16:43] <abu-bakr> so the ssh server.. does it just serve user created shares
[16:43] <abu-bakr> ?
[16:43] <compdoc> no
[16:44] <yumbo> the ssh server can give access to the whole system
[16:44] <yumbo> including the execution of commands
[16:44] <compdoc> its the same as opening a term window on the console
[16:45] <abu-bakr> erm.. cool.. ok.. how did rsync/luckybackup know what remote dir to backup without me telling it?
[16:45] <abu-bakr> its just going ahead with a backup of a remote machines 'home' dir
[16:46] <yumbo> did you just execute rsync in that home dir without specifying a directory?
[16:46] <yumbo> big chance its just gonna backup the current work-directory then
[16:46] <compdoc> you run luckybackup and hope you get lucky
[16:46] <yumbo> xD
[16:46] <abu-bakr> i know.. silly name.. but it had good reviews.. hey its worked so far :P
[16:47] <abu-bakr> must be the work of a chinese tech? or am i stereo typing there
[16:47] <yumbo> ...
[16:48] <bean> ....
[16:48] <compdoc> theres usually a conf file that specifies important directories to backup
[16:49] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.  Could someone please help?
[16:50] <dr_willis> diatomaceous:  whats your video card? if you just reboot.. it sometimes works.. and some times dont with no other changes?
[16:52] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: have you recently updated your raedon driver or anything?
[16:53] <bluenemo> hi guys, i was forced to use ubuntu by default by the business i'm working for at the moment :) my question is can i purge sudo or will this destroy the system? i'm on 10.04.
[16:54] <jpds> bluenemo: That sounds like.... a bad idea.
[16:54] <Rezn0rNInchNails> I want to install xubuntu dapper alternate on older machine. I put iso with unetbootin on Verbatim 8 GB Usb drive but I get incorrect cd rom. Please help.
[16:54] <bluenemo> jpds, why?
[16:54] <jpds> bluenemo: Because bits of Ubuntu are built around sudo?
[16:54] <bluenemo> hm ok.. damit..
[16:55] <bean> bluenemo: don't purge sudo. What are you attempting to accomplish by purging it?
[16:55] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: no, and dr_willis, correct - I change nothing, just reboot again.
[16:55] <diatomaceous> dr_willis: It's a firepro M8900.
[16:55] <jutnux> Howdy ho.
[16:55] <charles_> I'd be surprised if anyone in-channel can tell you firsthand what happens when sudo is purged :)
[16:55] <bluenemo> idk i dont trust it.. i want two passwords, one for my user and one for root..
[16:55] <Sharpshooter> how to reset the unity 3d totaly !!
[16:55] <bluenemo> do you know it charles_ ?
[16:56] <omido> i'm looking for an antivirus software so that i can scan the USB's that i work with windows users(please dont tell me that there is no need to install antiviruses in linux. i know that myself. )
[16:56] <yumbo> charles_, I can tell you what happens when you delete the libc.so libraries though
[16:56] <Tech-1> !clamav
[16:56] <bean> bluenemo: the user would still need to be allowed to sudo, which you can change with the sudoers config
[16:56] <charles_> bluenemo: no idea at all. I agree with jpds that it smells dangerous
[16:56] <llutz_> charles_: you'll have a system without root-access
[16:56] <geoffmcc> bluenemo: it goes against Ubuntu best practices, but you can set a seperate password for sudo
[16:56] <geoffmcc> i mean root
[16:57] <jutnux> omido: Avast works great.
[16:57] <Tech-1> omido:  clam
[16:57] <charles_> llutz_: that's bad enough, but that's still the best case scenario. /me wonders if there are worse outcomes though
[16:57] <bluenemo> ah ok yes a seperate password would be 'ok' as well, i'll google that
[16:57] <llutz_> charles_: sudo apt-get purge sudo -s                to check what it'll do
[16:57] <bean> bluenemo:  I would create your account, that has a password that only you know, that can sudo. And an account for others, that doesn't have sudo rights.
[16:58] <omido> jutnux: where can i find a free version on it ? i dont need the server edition
[16:58] <omido> Tech-1:  how is that ?
[16:58] <bluenemo> bean, so far its for my laptop (so only one human user)
[16:58] <bean> then still, a person would have to know your password to gain root.
[16:58] <Tech-1> antivirus in linux
[16:58] <bluenemo> but idk.. root and main user with one password, doesnt sound good to me :) i'll look into the seperate sudo pw
[16:59] <bluenemo> well yes thats my problem bean :) to less passwords.. m)
[16:59] <bean> bluenemo: sounds like you're being overly paranoid ;)
[16:59] <benignbala> Hi, I am looking for the Ubuntu's command not found handler for bash. I reached this URL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandNotFoundMagic which in turn points to 2 other urls for the code.
[16:59] <bean> bluenemo: I could reboot your machine and get a root shell if i really wanted to anyways, by using recovery mode.
[16:59] <benignbala> But neither of the  2  urls are valid. They both return 404 page not found.
[16:59] <benignbala> Can someone point me to an alternate source where I can get that code ?
[16:59] <diatomaceous> anyone have any more ideas how to fix my X troubles?
[17:00]  * bean avoids X if at all possible.
[17:00] <yumbo> haha: CommandNotFound page points to urls which give 404 Not Found
[17:00] <yumbo> ironic :)
[17:00] <bluenemo> bean, if you get around my encrypted hdd ;)
[17:00] <bluenemo> bean, i'm being paid for being paranoid :)
[17:00] <charles> bluenemo: I guess the biggest worry is that there would be side-effects that #ubuntu hadn't thought of. This may be a naive idea, but... maybe rename sudo to a scratch name, then wait and see if anything catches fire
[17:01] <benignbala> yumbo: :) true. May be we need a 404 not found handler as well, that will reroute to the right page ;)
[17:01] <bean> bluenemo: what are you setting up in the long run with this?
[17:01] <bluenemo> i think i'll play with it in a vm, if i'll find out sth interesting i'll post it here :)
[17:01] <charles> :)
[17:01] <bluenemo> bean, ??
[17:01] <bean> bluenemo: are you setting up a business level network of computers, or something? or is this just for personal use?
[17:02] <bluenemo> idk, i just came from debian and i'm a bit confused with this sudo stuff :) i've used and administrated ubuntu before but never had it on my holy precious laptop :)
[17:02] <stjohnmedrano> good day, how can we restart lightdm from terminal? before we use to command sudo /etc/init.d gdm restart ? thanks
[17:02] <llutz_> stjohnmedrano: sudo service lightdm restart
[17:02] <bluenemo> bean, no i work as a linux administrator for around 15 programmers
[17:02] <stjohnmedrano> thansk llutz
[17:02] <tsimpson> benignbala: see https://code.launchpad.net/command-not-found
[17:02] <bean> bluenemo: me too, and I run ubuntu on the majority of my servers :P
[17:02] <bluenemo> they program, i take care of everything else bean
[17:02] <stjohnmedrano> thansk llutz_ ill give it a try
[17:02] <bluenemo> lol ubuntu on servers :P
[17:03] <bean> ubuntu server man
[17:03] <bean> it works well.
[17:03] <bluenemo> hm yeah idk.. on desktops maybe.. but i'm not ready to use it on servers.. its just to dau for me :P
[17:03] <compdoc> all my servers run ubuntu, and windows server in VMs on ubuntu
[17:03] <benignbala> tsimpson: Thanks a lot for finding that for me.
[17:03] <diatomaceous> ubuntu server is a great OS
[17:04] <paulsomebody> Hello, everyone. I have a question — is it possible to change the network name of the Ubuntu machine after installation?
[17:04] <bluenemo> i prefer plain debian, then configuring it by hand.. i really like to start from scratch with servers
[17:04] <tsimpson> benignbala: for most packages, you can figure out where they were downloaded from by looking at /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright (just fyi)
[17:04] <bluenemo> paulsomebody, i think thats in /etc/hostname
[17:04] <diatomaceous> ubuntu server can be done that way :)
[17:04] <omido> diatomaceous:  is it better that i use ubuntu server?
[17:04] <paulsomebody> The one that was suggested by the Live CD installer happens not to be a correct NetBios name.
[17:04] <diatomaceous> but you get the benefits of more regular security updates and better package support
[17:04] <benignbala> tsimpson: Thanks again. That's really useful.
[17:04] <diatomaceous> I sure think so.
[17:04] <diatomaceous> we just switched from debian to ubuntu
[17:04] <diatomaceous> great move
[17:04] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i found a forum article that has same error as you, and they suggest that it is KMS doing it, i have no experience with your card but check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492803
[17:05] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: So, I guest waltz into this config file with gedit, change it, reboot and it is done?
[17:05] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: post #7
[17:05] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: Thank you, what's KMS?
[17:05] <llutz_> diatomaceous: "more regular security updates" than with debian?
[17:05] <diatomaceous> llutz_: yup
[17:05] <bean> for sure.
[17:06] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: what's xdm ?
[17:06] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: By the way, do you think there are any cuter names for system than 'mybox'?
[17:07] <bluenemo> paulsomebody, i use greek gods most of the time
[17:07] <bluenemo> paulsomebody, i think so, just sudo nano /etc/hostname
[17:07] <diatomaceous> paulsomebody: I use mcdonald's menu items
[17:07] <bluenemo> rofl M)
[17:07] <yumbo> paulsomebody, I just use my name/nick-Desktop for a desktop and -Laptop for laptop
[17:07] <diatomaceous> paulsomebody: It's hilarious when bigmac crashes
[17:07] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: Good move, Greeks had a lot of gods to go around. :)
[17:07] <bean> bluenemo, paulsomebody: and then hostname -f /etc/hostname and reboot.
[17:07] <nineteen67comet> Hello. I'm trying to add a music directory to fstab so the notebook I'm building a guy will see his windows music as if it's his /home/user/Music directory .. but there are spaces in the file names; can I use same syntax with fastab as cli? /media/Windows\ HD/Documents\ and\ settings/ etc etc?
[17:08] <yumbo> nineteen67comet, no you can't
[17:08] <yumbo> if the filename contains spaces you have to put quotes around the whole thing: ntfs "/some/path/with spaces"
[17:08] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: diatomaceous: yumbo: bean: Thank you all for the help, I will try this now.
[17:09] <jutnux> Yes you can...
[17:09] <nineteen67comet> yumbo: that's awesome easy .. thank you .. I'll get back to work on that .. :) .. thank you ..
[17:10] <llutz_> nineteen67comet: or mask spaces with "\040"
[17:10] <cyborg> i am using ubuntu 10.04 with <IP_ADDRESS> kernel and i ca't connect with bluetooth i am having connection failed error,please help me
[17:10] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: sorry, i was still looking into.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  there is a section in there that discusses KDM... also, have you checked if there was an update for your display adapter?
[17:11] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: what do you mean update? I run apt-get update / upgrade regularly
[17:11] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i meant KMS too
[17:11]  * theadmin pokes jutnux
[17:11] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: did you setup display with a ppa?
[17:11] <nineteen67comet> llutz thank you for that one too .. if I can't get the " to work I'll pull out the mask ..
[17:12] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: It's just the default driver that comes with the system.  Open-source I think
[17:13] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: ok, and you said it was a firepro M8900
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> hi theadmin
[17:13] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc:  correct
[17:13] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Hi I suppose.
[17:13] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: Same silicon as the Radeon Mobility 6970
[17:14] <thegladiator> any software for night display in laptops ?
[17:15] <dr_willis> night display?
[17:15] <theadmin> thegladiator: define:"night display"
[17:15] <bean> thegladiator: Redshift
[17:15] <bean> is like F.lux for windows.
[17:15] <thegladiator> yes as in like night time switches to an easier mode
[17:15] <dr_willis> 'easier' meaning?
[17:15] <thegladiator> Easier / lighter for the eyes
[17:16] <bean> thegladiator: Redshift.
[17:16] <thegladiator> trying that bean
[17:16] <xangua> bean: there is also f.lux for linux
[17:17] <bean> xangua: hmm, I wasn't aware, I don;t think there used to be.
[17:17] <xangua> there was an indicator also
[17:17] <thegladiator> often ind myself doing laptop in night , need a software that takes care of lgihting of lcd
[17:17] <bean> thegladiator: f.lux works as well.
[17:17] <bean> thegladiator: http://stereopsis.com/flux/linux.html
[17:18] <thegladiator> ok will that
[17:19] <tjayh913> one of these days I need to fix my version 14 kernel, have to boot the version 12 one to get it to boot
[17:20] <paulsomebody> Thank you everyone, that worked.
[17:20] <bean> np paulsomebody
[17:20] <compdoc> someday, you should upgrade
[17:20] <makara> wifi keeps disconnecting. its fine for a while and then just stops. I disable and enable and its back chopchop. Why? artheros 9285
[17:20] <conntrack> :D
[17:20] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: yea im not sure what driver you need with your card as i use nvidia.
[17:21] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: trying to find ppa for you but not sure
[17:22] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: think this might be it xserver-xorg-video-ati
[17:22] <paulsomebody> However, samba still says some silly things about 'hostname unknown', I cannot figure out if it installed or not. Can anayone take a look at the log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/776558/
[17:23] <thegladiator> very helpful beam thanks
[17:23] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: That's the one I have, yup.   xserver-xorg-video-ati:
[17:23] <diatomaceous>   Installed: 1:6.14.99~git20110811.g93fc084-0ubuntu1
[17:23] <diatomaceous>   Candidate: 1:6.14.99~git20110811.g93fc084-0ubuntu1
[17:23] <thegladiator> bean I men ^
[17:23] <thegladiator> mean
[17:23] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: I'm just so confused why it works fine sometimes but doesn't others.
[17:23] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: I'm mostly curious what "no screens found" means
[17:24] <makara> i want to configure Unity so I Alt+F2 and type about:config but then I cant click the unity config icon?
[17:24] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i think thats where the KMS comes in. This mode allows to automatically detect all necessary settings for your hardware, as well as to provide for better viewing experience.
[17:25] <compdoc> paulsomebody, that doesnt seem to have gone well. you may need to address the hostname problem first
[17:25] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: would it be safe to turn it off?  if so, how?
[17:25] <paulsomebody> compdoc: I think so. However, I already changed the hostname to 'mybox' sounds as NetBios compatible as it can get to me.
[17:26] <compdoc> paulsomebody, I was thinking a dns issue
[17:26] <DrMcLaser> makara: What unity config icon are you talking about? Some inside ccsm ?
[17:27] <paulsomebody> compdoc: DNS? Hmm. My desktop is getting a DNS automatically from the router, there should be no DNS settings locally. Or may Samba think otherwise?
[17:27] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492803 -- post #7
[17:27] <makara> iḿ trying to turn off the unity panel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50522/replacing-unity-bar-with-docky
[17:28] <thegladiator> redshift color is good ?
[17:28] <thegladiator> for eyes bean
[17:28] <andyn> i'm looking for a way to replace unity dock with that of wmaker :)
[17:29] <compdoc> paulsomebody, open a term window and try to ping mybox
[17:29] <paulsomebody> compdoc: It does not ping, says 'ping: unknown host mybox'.
[17:30] <jutnux> paulsomebody: He meant the IP of the Virtualbox I guess.
[17:30] <compdoc> yeah, so renaming it has caused a problem
[17:30] <paulsomebody> jutnux: I do not use VirtualBox or any other emulators, if I understand you correctly.
[17:31] <paulsomebody> compdoc: So, it is not as simple as renaming things in /etc/hostname and then using 'hostname --file 'etc/hostname', and rebooting?
[17:31] <xiax> c
[17:31] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: also.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting  // see turning off section. forum command a little different, i would prob use the wiki suggestion
[17:31] <compdoc> its not always that simple to get it right, true
[17:32] <paulsomebody> compdoc: Ouch.
[17:32] <llutz_> paulsomebody: change /etc/hosts too
[17:32] <DrMcLaser> makara: Well, as far as I can tell, you have to change "Reveal Mode" to none, and then make it autohide
[17:32] <paulsomebody> llutz_: I should replace all entries of old name with the new name, right?
[17:32] <llutz_> paulsomebody: yes
[17:33] <paulsomebody> llutz_: compdoc: Thank you both, pinging now works all right.
[17:34] <thegladiator> fluxgui is not opening saying its alredy running in bground
[17:34] <thegladiator> I am using gnome3
[17:34] <llutz_> paulsomebody: grep -r oldhostname /etc/      might show some other places containing the old name
[17:34] <thegladiator> Does it not get registered to gnome 3?
[17:34] <DrMcLaser> Does anybody know how to install regnum online on your home partition? I choose username/home/regnumOnline in the install wizard, but it still takes free space in Root partition..
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> FYI: regnum is a game
[17:36] <paulsomebody> llutz_: It is nowhere to be found, save for backups of the files where I edited it.
[17:37] <kleanchap> I have ubuntu based vmware appliance which looks like it is a stripped down version of ubuntu 10.10.  I added a new VM disk.  How do I install the new disk in ubuntu vm and fstab?
[17:37] <makara> DrMcLaser: i cant open the configuration window. I type altf2 and type about:config, click the icon but nothing happens. Any other way to access this?
[17:38] <DrMcLaser> makara: oh, Have you install compiz config settings manager? You need that first
[17:38] <makara> thanks
[17:39] <Mikeyn> hello channel, i need ome help
[17:39] <dr_willis> kleanchap:  just edit /etc/fstab and add a proper entry for it
[17:39] <dr_willis> !fstab | kleanchap
[17:39] <cyborg> exit
[17:40] <DrMcLaser> MonkeyDust: Regnum is a game yes, But shouldn't it be possible to install it to my home partition ?
[17:40] <DrMcLaser> makara: you can install it by doing a 'sudo apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager' without the quots
[17:40] <dr_willis> DrMcLaser:  if you installed it to /home/yoourusername  and home is on its own parittion. it shouldent be taking space on the / partition
[17:42] <Mikeyn> i recently installed some updates on ubuntu 10.04 and now when i boot up my computer i get "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg" i found some instructions online to fix the issue but my problem is i have no live cd available to me, and won't for the next couple of days as the only computer with a cd drive is the one having this issue. Is there any other way to fix this issue? I'm using a white macbook
[17:42] <travisHAZE> :o you can assign ~/ to its own partition?
[17:42] <DrMcLaser> dr_willis: no i didn't think so either.. But it actually does, because it can't finish installing because of lack of space on root.. Although it does have 2 Gigs..
[17:42] <paulsomebody> That did not go too well this time either, Samba still argues about old config files, like that. http://paste.ubuntu.com/776580/ But I removed both of them, before proceeding.
[17:42] <DrMcLaser> travisHAZE,: Yep :)
[17:43] <travisHAZE> Can it be readable by a Windows install?
[17:43] <kleanchap> dr_willis, Thnx
[17:44] <wcapio> hi folks
[17:44] <paulsomebody> Cute, now Samba returns this error even when I try to purge it!
[17:44] <wcapio> Q does anyone know how I can set a series of windows so that I can open them with one click (basically for programming development)
[17:45] <Mikeyn> I guess nobody could help me :(
[17:45] <makara> DrMcLaster what happens if I just disable the unity plugin?
[17:45] <makara> will it be like the desktop in 10.04?
[17:46] <makara> wcapio: hibernate
[17:46] <makara> wcapio: or startup applications
[17:46] <wcapio> makara, too inelegant
[17:47] <wcapio> makara, set them as start-up apps will not remember size and position, will it?
[17:47] <XamDM> Mikeyn, isn't ther an older kernel installed so that you can usethat one (old linux entry in grub) ???
[17:48] <Mikeyn> xam im not sure
[17:48] <Mikeyn> how would I go about checking that on a white macbook?
[17:48] <DrMcLaser> makara: No, it will not be like 10.04, unfortunately you might say.. But it is still possible to get the same kinda look..http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[17:49] <XamDM> Mikeyn, i dont have a mac. but grub should show you a list of available systems (kernels etc)
[17:49] <Mikeyn> I know the updates recently updated the kernel, which could have caused this, does it usually back up the older kernel that worked?? and if so how do I access it
[17:49] <makara> wcapio: no. but if you use keyboard shortcuts with the grid plugin for instance, moving them into place is much easier
[17:49] <yeehaw> makara: Or look into Linux Mint
[17:49] <DrMcLaser> makara: I have to leave now, hope to have helped you a bit :D
[17:49] <makara> a lot, thanks
[17:49] <Mikeyn> when I hold down option, it brings me to a window that shows a partition named "windows" and ive never had windows on there
[17:49] <wcapio> makara, as I was saying, inelegant...
[17:49] <Mikeyn> and when i select it it boots normally and i get the same error
[17:50] <XamDM> Mikeyn, is OSX installed and bootable ???
[17:50] <Mikeyn> I replaced os x with ubuntu because i didn't plan on using it ever again
[17:50] <wolfmitchell> Can I change the size if Ubuntu's partition from within ubuntu?
[17:50] <wcapio> makara, I take the last comment back, the grid plugin looks nice!
[17:51] <wcapio> makara, might do...
[17:51] <compdoc> Id love to own OSX is it ran on any Intel-based hardware
[17:51] <wolfmitchell> Note that I am running alongside Windows.
[17:51] <gang> gang
[17:51] <gang> hi all
[17:51] <XamDM> Mikeyn, so if there is no option to lauch the older kernel i don't have any idea to boot up the system without livecd
[17:51] <Mikeyn> I'm not a big fan of OS X, but it does run on intel based systems now
[17:52] <XamDM> Mikeyn, maybe you can find a Linux Livecd in a shop ???
[17:52] <Mikeyn> XamDM, what would the grub menu look like?
[17:52] <XamDM> Mikeyn, im on 11.10 and it shows an entry wwith old linux
[17:53] <paulsomebody> comdox: jutnux: llutz_: It appears the issue I am having with Samba is the know bug. Thank you for all the help, I will talk to the developers now.
[17:53] <OerHeks> wolfmitchell, no, you can't resize an active partition, you need to do this from a live cd
[17:53] <XamDM> Mikeyn, but on Macbook its the efi-version of grub, i don't know anything about it ...
[17:53] <wolfmitchell> Damn
[17:53] <iToast> hey
[17:53] <iToast> Ubuntu server 10.4 has Python natively right
[17:54] <iToast> like 2.6 / 7?
[17:54] <jpds> iToast: Yes.
[17:54] <jpds> iToast: All versions of Ubuntu do.
[17:54] <iToast> What version of python
[17:54] <iToast> I should hopefully have twisted installed too
[17:54] <travisHAZE> The kind that eats mice kind
[17:54] <jpds> iToast: packages.ubuntu.com is your friend.
[17:55] <iToast> lol
[17:55] <iToast> ok
[17:55] <iToast> Whats ubuntu's off topic channel>?
[17:55] <iToast> I had it yesterday but i can't find it...
[17:55] <webnet> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:56] <webnet> iirc
[17:56] <iToast> Ty
[17:56] <Alison_Chaiken> In the absence of having an existing Ubuntu system that I can use to burn a new USB Ubuntu install stick, can I use Unetbootin?    I'm hitting this error :
[17:56] <Alison_Chaiken> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iso-scan/+bug/480368
[17:56] <Alison_Chaiken> Essentially iso-scan finds the iso for oneiric, which is for an i386 iso that matches my architecture, but then it fails.
[17:57] <Mikeyn> how do you guys normally boot into grub, holding down the esc key?
[17:57] <Alison_Chaiken> I'm using debian-installer with priority=medium and trying to install on a logical partition of an embedded system.
[17:57] <bean> Mikeyn: Shift.
[17:57] <XamDM> Mikeyn, on non efi-systems it is shown on boot
[17:58] <symaxian> So I've installed all the sqlite packages in ubuntu, still not found in php
[17:58] <Boreeas> What are the color control codes in a console?
[17:58] <SuperNoeMan> hey, I'm on ubuntu 11.10
[17:59] <symaxian> How do you install sqlite in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:59] <theadmin> symaxian: apt-get install sqlite3 ?
[17:59] <gigo_> please help me with this: http://pastebin.com/9AfFy8M1
[17:59] <bean> symaxian: apt-get install php5-sqlite3
[17:59] <SuperNoeMan> and I'm doing sudo echo blahblah > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[17:59] <theadmin> bean: What's that got to do with php?
[17:59] <SuperNoeMan> but the sudo part isn't bringing up a prompt so I can raise my priviledges
[17:59] <symaxian> Both installed, neither appear in php
[17:59] <bean> theadmin: he said he wanted it in php earlier
[17:59] <gigo_> this is my wireless card: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:59] <theadmin> SuperNoeMan: True, "echo" is not a command, it's a shell built-in
[17:59] <SuperNoeMan> how come I can't edit the core_pattern?
[17:59] <bean> symaxian: then do you have /etc/php5/conf.d/sqlite3.ini
[18:00] <SuperNoeMan> theadmin: oh... so should I use something like sudo gedit?
[18:00] <theadmin> SuperNoeMan: echo "blahblah" | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[18:00] <guest__> I am curious if anybody know how to give 2 users the same roaming profile. Using samba?
[18:00] <theadmin> SuperNoeMan: -a with tee to append
[18:00] <symaxian> yes bean its there
[18:00] <guest__> For instance logon path = \\%N\profiles\%u
[18:00] <guest__>        logon drive = H:
[18:00] <guest__>        logon home = \\%N\%u
[18:00] <bean> symaxian: then restart apache?
[18:00] <bean> guest__: please don't paste here.
[18:01] <guest__> How can I change sams profile to so that both sam and tom can use the same roaming profile?
[18:01] <loconut> hello, I recently did an update on 10.04 LTS that upgraded my kernel, which is fine, except that initrd doesn't seem to include md-raid and it drops down to initramfs. How do I fix the initrd for the newer kernel?
[18:01] <symaxian> is the object-oriented version separate?
[18:02] <bean> symaxian: restart apache?
[18:02] <symaxian> Did
[18:03] <symaxian> The sqlite3.extension_dir directive has no value according to phpinfo()
[18:04] <DarkStar1> hi. Is it still better to use the PPA from https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa to update the nvidia cards?