[01:33] <michael_p> hello
[01:34] <elfy> hello
[01:35] <michael_p> So this forum is where the Ubuntu meetings take place, right ?
[01:38] <elfy> it is - you can see when they take place on the calendar - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/
[01:38] <elfy> top Fridge calendar holds the -meeting meetings :)
[02:58] <michael_p> Thanks.


[11:49] <juliux> hi beuno
[11:50] <beuno> mornin' juliux
[11:50] <beuno> how's it going?
[11:51] <juliux> good
[11:57] <beuno> juliux: I never did get you to sign my key, did I?
[11:58] <juliux> i didn't get your fingerprint via phone call or snail mail
[11:58] <juliux> you only send my your fingerprint via irc but that is the same transport way as i make a gpg --recv-key
[11:59] <beuno> you're right  :D
[12:00] <beuno> well, where/when can I call you then?
[12:00] <juliux> good question
[12:00] <juliux> i am at wort at the moment
[12:00] <juliux> and i have no internet at my sleepinplace
[12:00] <juliux> so i am not sure
[12:01] <beuno> heh, well, I might try snail mail, but that will take much more will power  :p


[00:09] <soren> damjan: Funny you should ask...
[00:10] <soren> damjan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/372864
[00:10] <damjan> funny as in, you are laughing all the way to the bank? :)
[00:11] <damjan> thanks
[00:11] <soren> Sure :)
[00:13] <damjan> I don't think this is available in 0.6.3 .. (does launchpad corellate bug reports with commits??)
[00:15] <ion> Karmic has 0.6.3, so what Scott said in the last message would work with it.
[00:16] <ion> The tty-device-added event must come from upstart-udev-bridge.
[00:16] <ion> Indeed, strings =upstart-udev-bridge:
[00:16] <ion> %s-device-added
[00:16] <ion> KERNEL=%s
[00:18] <Keybuk> it does
[00:38] <damjan> is upstart-udev-bridge going to be included in future upstart versions?
[00:39] <ion> Future Upstart versions won’t need it, as they’ll have the functionality built-in.
[00:40] <damjan> ion: how do you know this stuff? (it's a bit hard to come by upstart info)
[00:41] <ion> damjan: The upstart-udev-bridge man page says sos.
[00:41] <ion> so
[00:41] <damjan> ahh :)
[00:41] <Keybuk> damjan: you can just ask for upstart info ;)
[00:42] <damjan> Keybuk: the problem is when you don't know what to ask ... Upstart is still new (and changing) and has possibilities that weren't available before
[00:43] <Keybuk> that's certainly true
[00:44] <damjan> I'm experimenting with Upstart on ArchLinux .. so far I have it working
[00:44]  * Esmil too ;)
[02:33] <ion> http://xkcd.com/645/ :-D
[07:42] <testi_>  In 9.04 Upstart does not emit an event when a network device goes up, or a default route is added. How can I execute a script as soon as network is available (without busy waiting!)
[07:42] <testi_> Ubuntu 9.04
[07:52] <Md> testi_: use udev
[07:53] <testi_> okay
[08:17] <testi_> Hmm but there is an example event network-up (that is not emitted in Ubuntu). Use udev because upstart is incomplete? Or use udev to tellupstart that a ertain device has now an ip-adress?
[13:21] <spaetz> Hi
[13:22] <spaetz> Is it intended that a "restart dbus" kills my X server and restarts it?
[13:22] <Keybuk> yes
[13:22] <spaetz> without notifying or asking me?
[13:22] <Keybuk> you told it to, why would it ask you?
[13:23] <spaetz> because update-manager upgraded dbus which killed the X session which ran the update
[13:23] <spaetz> and therefore my upgrade was left in a state of limbo with a non-functioning network-manager
[13:23] <Keybuk> update-manager does not run "restart dbus"
[13:23] <Keybuk> if you had a bug like that, you should contact your distribution
[13:23]  * spaetz shrugs. All I did was running update-manager and it suddently restarted X
[13:24] <spaetz> I understand that living on the beta-edge will expose me to stuff like that
[13:24] <spaetz> but it's quite annoying. Also I used to /etc/init.d/dbus restart just fine without having X killed
[13:24] <spaetz> so if you are not aware of the dependency tree, a lot of bad stuff can happen
[13:25] <spaetz> who knows what else X depends on...
[13:25] <Keybuk> I don't see that it's a bug
[13:25] <Keybuk> if you're restarting services without understanding what depends on them, you deserve everything you get ;-)
[13:26] <spaetz> it might not be a bug, strictly speaking. But I am very much afraid of restarting *any* service now when in a X session.
[13:26] <spaetz> So, is there an easy way to find out the dependency tree?
[13:26] <spaetz> If there is none, then I'd consider that missing crucial functionality :)
[13:26] <Keybuk> no, because upstart doesn't work by dependencies
[13:27] <spaetz> so, how do I find out what else would kill my X?
[13:27] <Keybuk> read the /etc/init/gdm.conf fiole
[13:27] <spaetz> e.g. restart hal? dbus? cups? How can I find out?
[13:28] <spaetz> will do, and thanks for your patience
[13:28] <Keybuk> and then you'll discover that Upstart had no part in your X server restarting
[13:28] <Keybuk> and, in fact, your X server crashed *all by itself*
[13:28] <spaetz> Keybuk: no crash. Windows suddently started closing one after the other
[13:28] <Keybuk> it's crashing, just awkwardly ;)
[13:29] <spaetz> hehe, ok. I'll read the gdm.com stuff and check it out
[13:29] <spaetz> fortunately, i didn't have important stuff open
[13:30] <spaetz> the critical line seems to be: start on (filesystem and started hal)
[13:30] <spaetz> so when hal stops, gdm would stop
[13:31] <spaetz> and I assume hal depends on dbus
[13:31] <spaetz> ahh, and on udev. So no more udev restarts with running X either.
[13:31] <Keybuk> no
[13:31] <Keybuk> incorrect
[13:31] <Keybuk> that means that when hal is started, gdm is started
[13:32] <Keybuk> the "stop on" line is all about stopping, and that doesn't mention hal
[13:32] <spaetz> so when hal stops, gdm wouldn't stop? ok
[13:32] <spaetz> so then "restart dbus" making X restart must be a crash
[13:32] <spaetz> I recommend to write a blog post about that :)
[13:33] <Keybuk> when hal stops, X crashes
[13:33] <Keybuk> that's quite different
[13:33] <Keybuk> blog away ;)
[13:34] <spaetz> may, I quote bits of our conversation to make things clear?
[13:34] <spaetz> -> "may I..."
[13:35] <Keybuk> sure
[13:36] <Keybuk> though my conversation isn't exactly reveraling
[13:36] <spaetz> hehe, was interesting enough to me, thanks for the time to explain stuff
[13:37] <spaetz> next 24 days must be quite busy :)
[13:38] <spaetz> bye
[13:39] <mgoetze> Keybuk: about #433270 - where do those tty-device-added events come from? upstart itself? or do i need an appropriate udev configuration to emit them?
[13:45] <Keybuk> upstart-udev-bridge
[13:47] <mgoetze> that seems to exist in ubuntu, but i don't use ubuntu...
[13:48] <spaetz> I'll probably cut out some parts of the conversation later. But here is a draft quoting us (it's more than bits for now :-) ): http://sspaeth.de/archives/1191-Upstart-killed-the-Video-star.html
[13:54] <Keybuk> spaetz: the title is rather misleading
[13:55] <Keybuk> since we already established that it's X that dies on its own
[13:55] <Keybuk> sorry, but your blog post has no use
[13:56] <Keybuk> you're not documenting anything, just bitching
[13:56] <Keybuk> so I recall my permission to use anything I've said there
[13:58]  * spaetz shrugs. Your call. Will remove the quoting.
[13:58] <spaetz> we, did start the conversation that way though: 14:22 < spaetz> Is it intended that a "restart dbus" kills my X server and restarts it?
[13:58] <spaetz> 14:22 < Keybuk> yes
[14:12] <damjan> spaetz: yep, that dependecy on the system dbus in the X server is a new "feature"
[14:12] <damjan> ... and it sucks
[14:13] <damjan> btw, when I was asking (don't remmember what channel) the response was "dbus shouldn't be restarted"
[14:13] <spaetz> damjan: agreed
[14:13] <damjan> .. ever
[14:13] <spaetz> haha. Code just shouldn't crash, mem leaks not happen, and Microsoft play nice :-)
[14:14] <spaetz> everything should stand a reload of some other service without crashing on me
[14:15] <mgoetze> spaetz: go ahead and write an operating system in erlang then. we're all looking forward to the result, i can tell you
[14:17] <damjan> well, at least Dbus could be written in erlang :)
[14:17] <damjan> incerdible, there isn't even a bug report on bugs.freedesktop.org
[14:18]  * spaetz doesn't see what erland has to do with the fact that Xorg seems to have made a design decision that is just plain silly
[14:18] <spaetz> s/erland/erlang/
[14:19] <damjan> spaetz: an erlang dbus service could "restart" itself without bringing down the connections
[14:19] <damjan> but yeah, the Xorg server just uses the standard lib that doesn't handle disconnections from the bus AFAIK
[14:21] <spaetz> I see
[14:23] <damjan> but this bug report claims it's a problem in gnome-session http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=527860
[14:24]  * spaetz just found the same bug report :). THere is also one for Gentoo and Arch.
[14:24] <damjan> spaetz: do you use Gnome?
[14:26] <damjan> ah.. so it was a problem in Awesome too
[14:26] <damjan> I should test this again
[14:26] <spaetz> Gnome yes.
[14:28] <damjan> ok, so in latest Xorg-server and awesome I don't have the problem .. so X is ok :)
[14:29] <damjan> xorg-server <IP_ADDRESS>1 here
[16:49] <ion> keybuk: I could rebase the fsck-locking branch against the ubuntu-core-dev branch. Or are you already doing that?
[17:45] <ion> keybuk: Rebased and verified to work.
[18:41] <ion> keybuk: “Flush standard output and error before spawning processes to make capturing logs easier (otherwise we end up repeating things still in the buffer).” Ah, so that’s what it was. I guessed the behavior must be related to something getting duplicated with the forks that shouldn’t, but i never got around to investigating it.


[00:09] <daker> knome: AFAIK it's free to use off-uds
[00:09] <knome> daker, ok, cheers :)
[00:25] <daker> rsajdok: fixed makefile :)
[00:32] <daker> rsajdok, cjohnston, mhall119 setting up LTP in one command : bzr branch lp:loco-team-portal && cd loco-team-portal/ && make && make run
[00:38] <cjohnston> daker: too long
[00:39] <daker> bonus : you will get data with it :)
[00:52] <mhall119> daker: +1
[20:38] <rsajdok> daker: perfect :) I will try it later :)
[20:38] <rsajdok> cjohnston: maybe too long but works
[21:15] <rsajdok> daker: after "make" http://pastie.org/5995945


[17:50] <fooaa> Hello
[17:50] <fooaa> I am having DNS problems with 17.04 Zeisty
[17:50] <fooaa> Have anyone ran across this DNS problems?
[17:51] <fooaa> I suspect systemd-resolve
[18:12] <teward> fooaa: details of 'DNS Problems' are useful
[18:16] <fooaa> teward: I open Chrome and facebook.com does not resolve. Later, some minutes later, maybe because I opened Firefox, but then facebook.com resolves in Chromium.


[00:02] <user2034> "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!"  a message error inside KpackageKit
[00:02] <user2034> what does it means please
[00:03] <genii-around> https://bugs.launchpad.net/packagekit/+bug/272410
[00:03] <user2034> thank you :)
[00:04] <genii-around> np
[00:06] <user2034> what can i use to install new software instead of KpackageKit?
[00:07] <genii-around> apt-get
[00:08] <user2034> with graphic user interfacer?
[00:08] <user2034> -r
[00:08] <genii-around> No, it is command-line
[00:08] <genii-around> The normal usage is like: sudo apt-get install name-of-package-goes-here
[00:09] <user2034> and with gui what i can use?
[00:09] <kaddi> synaptic?
[00:09] <kaddi> or adept
[00:10] <genii-around> kaddi: In this particular case I would agree with Adept/Synaptic
[00:10]  * kaddi prefers apt-get or aptitude though :)
[00:10] <user2034> thanks
[00:11] <user2034> i am building a new kubuntu for a girl who don't know how to use kubuntu
[00:12] <user2034> gui is better in this case
[00:12] <genii-around> Adept then
[00:13] <user2034> it would be better in french :(
[00:13] <user2034> i have found adept but in english
[00:19] <user2034> synaptic is great
[00:27] <Coyotes> Any way to get the category list like in Synaptic in Kubuntu's package manager?
[00:28] <user2034> i don t know
[00:30] <flaco> hi everyone
[00:31] <flaco> i have a question , am trying to download a large file off the internet is it worth my  time creating a script ,
[00:31] <flaco> such as php or perl
[00:31] <flaco> any advise ?
[00:31] <Coyotes> One file or a large collection?
[00:31] <flaco> one file
[00:31]  * genii sips and thinks about wget
[00:31] <Coyotes> large as in 10GB?
[00:31] <flaco> no
[00:31] <flaco> its only 70mb
[00:32] <Coyotes> ... just get it lol
[00:32] <Coyotes> be done in about 1 minute on broadband...
[00:32] <Coyotes> If dialup just let it go overnight
[00:32] <flaco> well am on wireless
[00:32] <flaco> the server disconnectes me
[00:32] <Coyotes> Do you pay $$$$/MB?
[00:32] <Coyotes> The server should support resume...
[00:33] <Coyotes> If not, I can get it and then send you it in a multipart archive.
[00:33] <flaco> also my other question is  am running apache and tomcat6 together
[00:34] <Coyotes> Best thing is that the multipart archive tells you where the error is most times.
[00:34] <Coyotes> (MD5)
[00:34] <flaco> i will have to see what happens
[00:34] <Coyotes> You do an MD5 if it shows and error and I look at the MD5 signature of ones on my drive... and only resend that one.
[00:35] <flaco> i dont do md5
[00:35] <Coyotes> Well anything... even CRC32 would work heh
[00:55] <ubuntu> help!!!
[00:55] <ubuntu> I'm so stupid!!
[00:55] <ubuntu> I had a few partitions on my hdd
[00:55] <avihayb> well, that can't be helped, sory
[00:56] <ubuntu> sda1 was free, sda2 win, sda3 delted (no existing no more) and then there was entended thet was sda 4 swap and sda 5
[00:56] <ubuntu> I now installed some opensolaris to sda1 only
[00:56] <ubuntu> it changed my grub, no more linux, I have no back up
[00:56] <ubuntu> bootet from live cd
[00:56] <flaco> you can edit the  grub
[00:57] <flaco> and tell it to boot so where you want
[00:57] <ubuntu> and now gparted shoes: sda1 9,141 GB ext 2   solaris, 5 Mb unallocate, sda2 ntfs wind, and rest unallocated.
[00:58] <ubuntu> it does only show primary partitions but no longer the logical partitions they are marked as one block of unallocated - size fits
[00:58] <avihayb> so it looks like the solaris installation removed the other partitions?
[00:58] <ubuntu> I'm soooooo dumb. I have no backup.
[00:58] <ubuntu> but solaris is ONLY on sda1
[00:59] <ubuntu> it has not created a solaris partition where the logical ones where. it's still there the space, free but unallocated
[00:59] <ubuntu> PLEEEEASe tell me I can save that somehow  - I will never again play around without having made a backup before
[00:59] <James147> can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[00:59] <gelado> hello
[01:00] <avihayb> well, there is a software that can help you guess where exacly the partitions are. if you recreate them in exacly the same size, you lose no data
[01:01] <ubuntu> james147: http://pastebin.com/m4ffa4dcd
[01:01] <avihayb> !gpart
[01:03] <ubuntu> avihayb: that would be good. though difficult. I now in total it was about 15 GB - I recently changed from WIndows. And I used the big part - the ntfs for bigger files, so 15 was suffcient for linus (14 root and 600 swap, and I don't reeecall anymore)
[01:03] <avihayb> how do you ask ubottu about a package?
[01:04] <ubuntu> i curse belenix  (the opensolaris distro) it says it would destroy all data on THE ONE partition I tell him (sda1), not that my logical partitions will all be gone.
[01:05] <ubuntu> now that'S how i pay for my curiosity
[01:05] <ubuntu> james147: have you read my paste?
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> avihayb- !info <packagename>
[01:05] <avihayb> !info gpart
[01:05] <avihayb> Dragnslcr: thanks
[01:06] <ubuntu> avihayb: so I will only need to know approximately how big the partitions where and that pürogram will find the exact partition borders?
[01:07] <ubuntu> damn, the live cd is intrepdi still, so apt.get tells me there is no installation candidate
[01:07] <avihayb> actualy, as far as I recall from the last time I used it, you needn't tell it anything, but that was years ago. oh, it also faild to find my partitions correctly, but atleast you have some hope now...
[01:08] <ubuntu> hmm
[01:08] <ubuntu> ok
[01:08] <ubuntu> but can i install it from within intrepid live cd?
[01:09] <avihayb> sure, the live cd is an independent os
[01:09] <avihayb> that happens to be runing from a read only media
[01:10] <ubuntu> yeah, but it says, no installation candidate for gpart
[01:11] <avihayb> I belive it's in the universe repository
[01:12] <avihayb> you'll have to enable it, and update the cache
[01:12] <ubuntu> "sudo apt-get install gpart" can't find any
[01:12] <ubuntu> ah, ok
[01:12] <ubuntu> will try synaptic then
[01:13] <flaco> does anyone know how to set wget to keep trying till its  got the file  downloaded
[01:14] <lokai> How do you change the default 1-click opens icons to double click behavior in KDE 4?
[01:14] <avihayb> flaco: I understand you want a script to do it for you
[01:15] <avihayb> lokai: it's in the system settings under mouse behaviour
[01:15] <James147> lokai: system settings > mouse & keyboard > mouse
[01:15] <flaco> the problem is that the server that am getting files off  closes the connect after  an amount of time
[01:16] <coz_> installed  kubuntu-desktop on two systems and now get this error after each update or installation of applications    E: kubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:16] <coz_> any solutions?
[01:16] <lokai> James147, Not seeing system settings (of course the command line works). Where is the GUI launcher?
[01:16] <ubuntu> avihayb: I aktivated universe and multiverse. Updated, but it still finds no packages called gpart only gparted
[01:16] <ubuntu> did you mean that one?
[01:17] <avihayb>  no, I did not. !info gparted
[01:17] <James147> lokai: It should be inthe menu, or systemsettings from commandline
[01:17] <avihayb> updated=reloaded, right?
[01:17] <ubuntu> yes
[01:18] <lokai> James147, its not in the menu. I'm KDE 4 not 3.
[01:18] <James147> lokai: systemsettings is for kde4
[01:18] <ubuntu> then it's problably only in jaubty. Can'T download and burn it now, as I only have one cd drive and need it for the live cd
[01:18] <lokai> James147, If you noticed, I asked specifically for the GUI launcher
[01:19] <lokai> And I pointed out that I saw that the command line worked
[01:19] <avihayb> the package should be in all the ubuntu repositories
[01:19] <lokai> I'm trying to set up the machine to be usable be a computer novice, so I'd really like to know where the little icon they can click is ;)
[01:19] <flaco> is their a way to upgrade to 9.04  kubuntu without a cd ?
[01:20] <James147> lokai: by default on kubuntu it is in your favorites in  the menu
[01:20] <lokai> James147, Ah I see it now. I was looking under applications/settings and system.
[01:21] <James147> lokai: try typeing it in the search to see if it finds it, if not add it to the menu
[01:21] <James147> lokai: :)
[01:21] <avihayb> flaco: yes. you can either upgrade on-line or download the alternate cd, mount it without burning it, and upgrade from that
[01:21] <flaco> i tried that ,
[01:22] <avihayb> and?
[01:22] <flaco> i downloaded the cd ,
[01:22] <flaco> and i mounted it
[01:22] <flaco> and nothing
[01:22] <lokai> Thanks, James147
[01:22] <flaco> and i added the cd ,
[01:22] <flaco> apt-cdrom add
[01:22] <flaco> and  still nothing happened
[01:22] <avihayb> the cd, contains a script
[01:22] <avihayb> you need to run it
[01:22] <flaco> which script
[01:23] <avihayb> go to the directory you mounted the cd in
[01:23] <flaco> i did that
[01:23] <avihayb> ls around. there should be a script in the cd's root folder
[01:23] <flaco> i think i download the wrong cd ,
[01:24] <flaco> cause when i mounted it their was no upgrade script
[01:24] <flaco> just a install.exe
[01:24] <avihayb> that's the normal livecd, I guess
[01:24] <avihayb> you need the alternate cd
[01:24] <flaco> ok where do i find it
[01:24] <James147> flaco: why cant you upgrade online?
[01:24] <flaco> forget it i know where to go
[01:25] <flaco> cause my wirelss card sucks
[01:25] <ubuntu> it'S not there   :-( no gpart, no testdisk
[01:25] <flaco> and it would take me days to download  700mb
[01:25] <James147> flaco: no wired connection?
[01:26] <flaco> only wireless
[01:26] <ubuntu> i'll try with aonther live cd that's here.
[01:26] <ubuntu> thank you so far, avihayb
[01:27] <flaco> am thinking i can download a torrent which must  be faster
[01:28] <flaco> that or install openssh on windows vista and connect to it via wireless ...
[01:33] <coz_> hey guys   I chose obsidian   theme on kde  but the menu does not draw correctly http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot.png
[01:33] <liz> I'm getting no sound from kubuntu hardy, don't know what to do
[01:35] <flaco> have you check if  kubuntu found your sound card ?
[01:35] <flaco> have you ever gotten sound ?
[01:36] <liz> I did have sound b4 but reinstalled and now there's no sound
[01:37] <flaco> did you update the system
[01:37] <liz> yes I did (I also had this problem the first time and someone helped)
[01:37] <flaco> ok
[01:38] <flaco> on the  taskbar  do you see an icon for  sound?
[01:38] <James147> liz: Do you remember vaguly what you did the first time?
[01:38] <liz> yes it's there, alsa mixer is installed
[01:39] <liz> james147: not really, it was a series of commands and posting :-/
[01:39] <avihayb> lis, how bout runing lspci, and telling us what does your system think of your sound card?
[01:40] <avihayb> *z
[01:41] <liz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/261231/
[01:43] <liz> It does identify my sound card and has the module snd_intel8x0 installed
[01:43] <liz> I also have my whole alsa info script here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a6d38f2adaed83282bcc6032de6fc70ac149e0da
[01:45] <avihayb> humm, can you go to system settings->multimedia?
[01:45] <liz> I don't have multimedia under system settings, have 'sound system'
[01:46] <avihayb> does the intel card appeare there? can you test bouth it and pulse audio?
[01:46] <avihayb> what version of kubuntu/kde you be runing ag'n?
[01:47] <liz> no, just simple settings like enabling sounds and which audio device to use
[01:48] <avihayb> do you have a test button, or something of that sort?
[01:48] <avihayb> (it should just play some audio...)
[01:49] <liz> ah yes, I don't hear anything
[01:50] <avihayb> did you mark the "show advanced devices" checkbox, and then tryed al of them?
[01:50] <avihayb> did you get any popup about any of the sound systems not working?
[01:52] <liz> I tried all listed, OSS, auto, alsa, etc, no sound and no pop ups
[01:53] <avihayb> I'm seeing a totaly different version then what you see. anyway, I'm clueless here
[01:54] <liz> yes I'm using hardy
[01:55] <liz> bugger
[01:55] <avihayb> well, grab a pair of earphons, and try useing them
[01:56] <avihayb> my mobile intel sound card, when I plug the earphons by deafult, assumes I'm connecting an extra pair of speekers because I want seround
[01:57] <avihayb> to make it disconnect the main speekers, I have to edit a file, and restart the sound system
[01:59] <liz> yes, the sound works with headphones but not on my speakers :(
[02:02] <avihayb> well, I'd start by searching for solutions specific for your laptop, it's a bit of a long shot, but it's easyer and faster. then if that doesn't work, look for info on the specific card.
[02:02] <avihayb> you can use this in your search term: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:03] <avihayb> (after you try the laptop modle)
[02:03] <nico475> i need some help please. I am working in kubuntu 8.10 and can not get it to register my cd/dvd driver
[02:04] <avihayb> oh, now that I think of it, did you go to the kmixer, went to the configure chanles, and marked EVERYTHING?
[02:06] <avihayb> under settings
[02:06] <liz> on output everything is marked
[02:07] <avihayb> I mean, go to the settings menu option->configure channles
[02:08] <avihayb> there are sho/hide buttons, make sure it shows everything
[02:09] <liz> omg! it's working now... don't know how lol
[02:10] <liz> god I hope it still works on next log in
[02:10] <James147> liz: gota love it with things fix themself :)
[02:10] <avihayb> I thought you'dve' tryed to unplug the earphones already
[02:11] <liz> avihayb: no sorry just got to it after checking kmix
[02:12] <liz> james147: I just hope it remains fixed
[02:14] <liz> avihayb: thanks for the help
[02:15] <nico475> does anyone know the sudo code to fixthecd/dvd player in mycomputer?
[02:15] <nico475> i diditonce before in my other computer but can not remember the coding
[02:16] <liz> wish I knew, need it for my other computer :)
[02:23] <coz_> any suggestions on this error    E: kubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:24] <duhi> Hey guys do you know how i can monitor the temp of my macbook pro running 9.04? thanks
[02:27] <MTGap_>  Can anyone tell me how to change my 'nickname' in kopete when I'm chatting to people; it shows my user account name. I can change other people's names but not mine as far as I know
[02:30] <James147> MTGap_: its you nickname in "identity" settings, you might need to restart kopete to get it to work
[02:31] <MTGap_> yeah I have it as I want it but it still shows the account name
[02:32] <MTGap_> I've had it like that for a while but and have quit and it has stayed the same
[02:42] <avihayb> duhi: yes, there are two ways I know of
[02:42] <duhi> avihay, thanks
[02:43] <avihayb> except for looking in your proc folder's files with cat, you can either install and place a plasmoid that shows you a nice little graph, or you can use the system monitor
[02:45] <avihayb> do you need/want specific instructions? and if so, what method do you want
[02:50] <moises> help, I cannot import the scanner in eclipse
[02:55] <jonska> Hello. Is anyone available to answer a question about mount/fstab?
[02:55] <hackerx> what about it
[02:56] <jonska> I am using the "user" option in fstab, and I can indeed mount the filesystem in question, but it is owned by root and has perms 755, so I can't write to it.
[02:57] <hackerx> you can use sudo to access root
[02:58] <hackerx> and use chmod to change the file permissions
[02:59] <jonska> Yes, but I have other filesystems handled identically in fstab, and they are automatically owned by me when I mount them. I do not know why one filesystem is handled one way, and the other a different way even though their fstab entries are identical with regards to configuration options.
[03:00] <hackerx> not an expert here but depends on who created the filesystem..
[03:01] <hackerx> system sets ownership permissions based upon who created the filesystem
[03:01] <avihayb> jonska: look for the "The non-superuser mounts" section in the "mount" manpage
[03:04] <jonska> Thanks for the advice, will research more.
[03:10] <JJman> Does anyone know how to customize panels in KDE.  I need to have the panel have a Task manager (the running apps) but only specific ones so that my main panel doesn't also show them.
[03:10] <avihayb> jonska: what fs are you trying to mount? most file systems that don't support file permissions the linux way, have an option like umask, uid and gid
[03:11] <avihayb> you can look it up in the mount manpage, and put that option into the fstab.
[03:12] <jonska> avihayb: I'm just trying to mount two reiserfs filesystems. They are configured identically in fstab, and the mount points are identical with respect to owner/perms, and the device entries in /dev are identical with respect to owner/perms, but when I mount one of the filesystems its mountpoint is changed to be owned by me, while the other one is owned by root and has its perms changed from 777 to 755 so that I cannot write to it.
[03:12] <liz> JJman: can't you right-click on the panel and customize that way?
[03:12] <avihayb> jjman: the taskman plasmoid has some filter features
[03:13] <JJman> no i've tried that
[03:13] <JJman> hmmm.  filter.  (cause i need to have 2 seperate task man's running in 2 diff. panels)  but i want apps to run seperately out of each one
[03:15] <JJman> hmmm.  the filter lets me only show apps from a certain desktop.  which would almost work.  but  not quite.
[03:15] <JJman> its still showing apps thats are on other desktops
[03:16] <avihayb> well, the only filters you can use are to only show processes from this desktop or screen(if you have a multiple screen setup, I guess) and show all
[03:17] <JJman> exxcept that it doesn't appear to be filtering properly.  its not showing EVERYTHING but its still showing ones on diff. desktop.
[03:18] <JJman> whats the diff. . between desktop & screens neway
[03:18] <avihayb> I think it's only aplicable in a multiple screens setup
[03:19] <JJman> well i'm running 4 desktops.  so if the bloody filter worked properly it would be what i need to put the specific apps on different desktops
[03:20] <JJman> but its NOT filtering properly
[03:20] <casa> Conectiva 10 ultimate
[03:21] <JJman> my Putty connections are showing up on all even tho they are on one desktop
[03:21] <casa> debian
[03:21] <JJman> actually other that app the others do seem to be working
[03:21] <JJman> ^than^
[03:22] <avihayb> maybe the xfce4 panle (with the xfce task manager applet) can work better for you
[03:22] <casa> mandrak 8.9
[03:22] <avihayb> it should work under kde too, I think
[03:23] <JJman> something i need to install i take it
[03:23] <casa> Kurumin 2009
[03:24] <casa> qwebirc59201!i=42207a3e@gateway/web/freenode/x-
[03:24] <qwebirc59201> hello
[03:24] <casa> Kurumin
[03:24] <qwebirc59201> hello
[03:24] <casa> control
[03:24] <casa> BUTUN
[03:25] <casa> KUBUNTU
[03:25] <avihayb> casa: QDos?
[03:25] <qwebirc59201> can you help me i want to join
[03:25] <qwebirc59201> and help people
[03:26] <casa>  KUBUNTU=
[03:26] <avihayb> qwebirc59201: you are free to do so
[03:26] <qwebirc59201> what????????????????????????????????????
[03:26] <casa>                                         the you flame
[03:26] <casa> linux
[03:26] <bazhang> casa, do you have a support question?
[03:27] <casa> fedora
[03:27] <casa> 8.12
[03:27] <casa> 64 bytes
[03:28] <bazhang> casa, please stop
[03:28] <casa> Linux fedora 6.12 64Bites
[03:28] <JJman> So i've just discovered how useful multiple desktop's can be ;-)   How many do ppl usually use!
[03:28] <bazhang> !br | casa
[03:29] <casa> look on the you
[03:29] <avihayb> JJman: the deafult should be 4, it sounds like a good number, and I think anything more then 9 is useless
[03:29] <casa> muito obrigado
[03:29] <casa> show
[03:29] <casa> sim
[03:30] <bazhang> casa, /join #ubuntu-br
[03:30] <casa> serto
[03:30] <casa> eu tenho o novo kurumin
[03:30] <mostafa_> how can I use samba ?
[03:30] <casa> 2008.
[03:30] <casa> sim
[03:30] <casa> serto
[03:30] <bazhang> mostafa_, read the samba docs yet?
[03:31] <casa> mostafa_, read the samba docs yet?
[03:31] <JJman> lol.  Yea but i already am using 4.  i just bumped to 6 to see how it goes
[03:31] <bazhang> casa, English only here
[03:31] <BluesKaj> !br | casa
[03:31] <casa> octordruidphd entrou neste canal (n=quassel@207-118-84-225.dyn.centurytel.net).
[03:31] <casa> [23:31] <bazhang> casa, English only here
[03:31] <casa> [23:31] <BluesKaj> !br | casa
[03:31] <casa> [03:31] <FloodBotK1> casa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:31] <JJman> avihayb : thx for the help  I think i found a workable solution w/ filter and diff. desktops
[03:31] <jonska> avihayb: Can you help me understand why two filesystems (reiserfs) would be mounted with different owner/perms when they are configured the same if fstab? (auto,user,rw,exec)?
[03:33] <avihayb> I'm afraid not jonska... havn't messed around with fstab enough to encounter that sort of thing. try it once with different mountpoints, maybe "it" will like it more
[03:34] <jonska> avihayb: OK - thanks for your help anyway. I appreciate your time.
[03:34] <avihayb> I'm watching anime on the other computer...
[03:48] <webbb> i have a problem  the reptor menu doesnt want to work rite unless i turn off compositing   any idea why
[03:48] <Hirato> is there a way to determine which of the other installed packages depend on a certain package?
[03:49] <Hirato> specifically, I'd like to know what inside KDE depends on libpulse0
[03:50] <avihayb> Hirato: there are ways. the easyest, is to install synaptic, the package manager. it should tell you all of the information you need
[03:50] <Hirato> on the libpulse package it'd tell me what libpulse0 depends on
[03:50] <Hirato> I'd like to know what depends on it
[03:51] <avihayb> you can also ask to remove the package with apt-get or sinaptic. you'll get a list of what has to be removed
[03:51] <avihayb> *synaptic
[03:52] <Hirato> avihayb: I don't have the patience to shift through 288 packages that libpulse0's uninstallation will trigger :P
[03:52] <BluesKaj> Hirato, try to install with aptitude in the terminal, and the required dependencies should be installed alongside the app, if not the the required dependencies will be listed
[03:52] <mostafa_> where is network places in kubuntu as it is in ubuntu?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> Hirato, then you can procede to install them as well
[03:54] <avihayb> sory, I must have missunderstood you
[03:54] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, the repositories are the same for both gnome(ubuntu)  and kde (kubuntu0 it's a matter of choice .
[03:54] <avihayb> mostafa_: you can access it via the file manager
[03:55] <mostafa_> avihayb: then where should I go then to access it?
[03:56] <avihayb> run the file manager of your choice. dolphin or konqurer
[03:56] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I installed samba but i don't know where is places->network
[03:56] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, open dolphin
[03:57] <BluesKaj> yes network
[03:57] <mostafa_> ok i opened it then ?
[03:57] <Hirato> BluesKaj: it's dependencies are already met, I'd want to know what has libpulse0 as a depdency
[03:57] <mostafa_> yeah thanks men
[03:57] <mostafa_> I found it
[03:58] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: Thnx ;)
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Hirato, the only way i know is to try to to install it with apt or aptitude
[03:58] <mostafa_> avihayb: thnx ;)
[03:58] <Hirato> BluesKaj: that'll only trigger the installation of the items which libpulse0 depends on, not the items which depend on it
[04:00] <Hirato> oh... `aptitude why` does it
[04:00] <BluesKaj> libpulse0 is obviously a dependency so you need to use aptitude
[04:01] <webbb_> im running kde4.3 and im getting alot of crashed that say plasma desktop crashed
[04:01] <Kingsley_> Hi there everyone
[04:01] <Kingsley_> I'm about to dive into the whole Linux scene, and I've got a few questions...
[04:02] <BluesKaj> !ask | Kingsley_
[04:02] <Kingsley_> Ahhh... ahaha okey doke :)
[04:02] <Hirato> libxine1-misc-plugins... is the only thing that depends on libpulse0
[04:03] <Kingsley_> I was wondering how easy the GUI is to use, since I've been using a Windows OS all my life... 95>98>2k>XP>Vista
[04:03] <Kingsley_> I'm downloading Ubuntu right now
[04:03] <Hirato> that probably explains why I mcan't get rid of every single trace of pulseaudio without KDe going wiht it
[04:05] <Kingsley_> Also... hows the driver support for Hauppauge TV Tuner cards? :/
[04:05] <avihayb> Kingsley_: well, kubuntu is a bit more like windows then ubuntu in some areas.
[04:06] <BluesKaj> Kingsley_,  as far as desktop enviromnents go KDE (Kubuntu) will be more familaiar for windows users (myself included ) , but it's mostly a matter of taste .
[04:06] <Kingsley_> Ahh... so I should grab that instead? :)
[04:07] <Kingsley_> Wait.. I am downloading that distribution... my bad.. ahaha
[04:07] <avihayb> ubuntu is definetly clear and easy to use. Hauppauge TV tuner cards are suported. I'm guessing everything older then two years is fully suported
[04:07] <BluesKaj> Kingsley_, afaik happauge cards have decent driver support in linux
[04:07] <Kingsley_> Thats great to know...
[04:08] <Kingsley_> I've been pulling my hair out over this old junker computer I salvaged..
[04:08] <Kingsley_> Whats the recommended RAM?
[04:08] <Kingsley_> I've only got 256 mbs... lmao.. to work with here..
[04:09] <BluesKaj> aha. same route I took ...old pc , seems good to experiment with linux , putting your toe in the water so to speak
[04:09] <avihayb> then I'd recommend you go with something a bit lighter like xubuntu
[04:09] <Kingsley_> Well I'll see how it runs I guess, and then format and try something else if its to much to handle
[04:09] <avihayb> I'm runing kubuntu on a p4 1.5ghz with 512MB
[04:09] <BluesKaj> agreed , unless you upgrade the ram
[04:10] <Kingsley_> I'm just trying to get this computer as a dedicated TV using the old card I have
[04:10] <avihayb> and it works, but it's not a smooth ride
[04:10] <Kingsley_> and all my OS install discs (W2K, XP) are freaking out on me, and aren't working at all :( So I decided to jump head first into Ubunut :)
[04:11] <avihayb> if you are gonna use the computer as a dedicated TV, you should get mythubuntu
[04:11] <BluesKaj> Kingsley_, 256 is a bit optimistic on any OS for handling video
[04:11] <avihayb> it's mythTV runing on xubuntu
[04:11] <avihayb> mythTV is a PVR software
[04:11] <Kingsley_> It was running 30FPS on some video resoloutions... :/
[04:12] <Kingsley_> and I've heard of MythTV
[04:12] <Kingsley_> I'll google that
[04:13] <Kingsley_> That seems to be the perfect route for me... I'll download that instead
[04:13] <avihayb> what are the specs of your system?
[04:14] <Kingsley_> I don't have it in front of me... :/
[04:14] <inferno_livecd> Hey all
[04:15] <Kingsley_> taking a guestimate here... probably 1.7ghz 256mb and this old old old NVIDIA integrated graphics card... not even an AGP removeable
[04:15] <BluesKaj>  mythtv , is a steep learning curve for a linux starter app
[04:15] <Kingsley_> Well I've got time to mess around... and I'm pretty computer savvy :/
[04:16] <Kingsley_> Only 15 here... :P
[04:16] <inferno_livecd> I have an interesting situation I need help with. I had a motherboard blow out, and ended up getting a new one. It came with a vid card. so I am using my old card in another machine that needs it. Im on the livecd in safe gphx mode. How do I reconfigure the graphics on my install from here.
[04:16] <avihayb> there is a mythTV chanlle here in freenod. some guys helped me alot
[04:17] <inferno_livecd> Kingsly I have to second BluesKaj's notion. MythTV is HARD to set up
[04:17] <BluesKaj> Kingsley_, yup #mythtv
[04:18] <Kingsley_> I'll try my best :P Not the end of the world of it doesn't work...ahaha
[04:18] <inferno_livecd> good luck. I gave up on it and found easier solutions
[04:19] <avihayb> I looked in the ubuntu repositoris for an easyer solution for a while
[04:19] <avihayb> I tryed everything that didn't need me to burn a CD
[04:19] <BluesKaj> actually Kingsley_ , linux nowadays is for bleeding edge users , especially in medai applications and setups. Windows actually lags in flexibility im many ways vs Linux in the media despt
[04:19] <Kingsley_> Well i'll be burning a CD for this one
[04:20] <Kingsley_> I don't like the idea of a live CD... :/
[04:20] <Kingsley_> Wait.. that didn't make sense lmao
[04:20] <BluesKaj> dept.... i'm getting tired ...it's late
[04:20] <inferno_livecd> I ended up writing a script for Azureus (Vuze)  because it has a built in media center abillity that can stream to PS3
[04:20] <BluesKaj> sacktime
[04:20] <avihayb> I'm getting tired, it's early :->
[04:20] <Kingsley_> Thanks for your help BluesKaj :)
[04:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, but I'm old
[04:20] <webbb_> i hope someone can help me out im running kde 4.3 and i also have gnome installed but when i installed kxdocker it opens and where the dock should be i see the desktop backgrond for gnome
[04:21] <BluesKaj> np , Kingsley_ I wish you luck with mythtv , but may I suggest TVTime , it easier to install and it might fitm your needs for a while.
[04:22] <inferno_livecd> i really need help reconfiguring video from liveCD
[04:22] <Kingsley_> I'll google it :) thanks for the suggestion
[04:22] <BluesKaj> np, nite all
[04:22] <inferno_livecd> google = skynet beta
[04:26] <avihayb> inferno_livecd: if that is so, skynet already won, ad decided we arn't a thret, atleast as long as we depend on it, and I don't see that stopin in the next 3 years...
[04:26] <avihayb> bahh, so many spelling mistakes... that's whi I hat mornings
[04:27] <inferno_livecd> avihayb exactly... scary that they help write linux kernal code
[04:27] <inferno_livecd> they're the number 2 contribulter
[04:27] <inferno_livecd> next to red hat
[04:28] <maco> skynet?
[04:30] <inferno_livecd> see terminator
[04:32] <avihayb> inferno_livecd: you go about it the rong way. maco: look up skynet in skynet, err, I meen google. It will be the first wikipedia article...
[04:32] <avihayb> rong->wrong
[04:33] <inferno_livecd> i have an ASRock motherboard with integrated video. My install has the nVidia drivers. How do I reconfigure
[04:33] <maco> avihayb: uk military communications?
[04:34] <inferno_livecd> skynet is a massive computer system that runs and turns on the world. deciding it doesnt need humans anymore and tries to kill them off
[04:35] <maco> oh so i should be looking at the Terminator reference then
[04:35] <inferno_livecd> yes
[04:35] <inferno_livecd> =)
[04:36] <avihayb> I said the first entery. maybe google knows me well enough to give me the order I expected...
[04:36] <avihay> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(Terminator)
[04:36] <maco> i used the wikipedia search
[04:37] <maco> so i got the disambiguation page
[04:38] <avihayb> well, that's the price for not reading instructions carefully. also, I was trying to be funny. happens I was also right...
[04:39] <inferno_livecd> hmmm i think I found a solution, going to try to boot off the drive now, wish luck
[04:49] <webbb_> is there a good alternative  to folder view
[04:56] <seattlegaucho> !krdc
[04:56] <seattlegaucho> :/
[04:56] <chez> How do i find out which program is downloading stuff
[04:59] <seattlegaucho> chez -- try 'iotop' and/or 'lsof' ... they may not give you the info directly, you'll have to look into the man pages for the options that might help you
[05:02] <chez> ok
[05:03] <avihayb> !info krdc | seattlegaucho
[05:03] <seattlegaucho> thx avihayb
[05:07] <chez> iotop is for disk usage, but is it possible for a program to download but not write to disk, f so how would i locate said program
[05:07] <seattlegaucho> in that case you can check network activity using 'netstat' or something similar
[05:09] <avihayb> netstat won't tell you the program name
[05:09] <chez> it will tll me where im connecting to?
[05:09] <chez> i use etherape for that
[05:10] <avihayb> but internet socket are treated as files in linux. to open a socket, you have to open a file descriptor, that's why lsof should work
[05:11] <jonska> avihayb: Are you still on?
[05:11] <chez> avihayb there is a file called http that is writing continously is that it?
[05:12] <avihayb> chez: don't know... sory, never tryed it myself
[05:12] <seattlegaucho> chez: it's likely ... http is the protocol used by web servers
[05:13] <seattlegaucho> chez: what's the name of the process that has it open?
[05:15] <chez> seattlegaucho: its gone now , but using etherape i can seeing im downloading something from mirror.aarnet.edu.au
[05:15] <chez> (i live in australia)
[05:16] <seattlegaucho> it's important to try to identify  by PID or name, which program was connecting to the server
[05:17] <seattlegaucho> then you can determine what's going on
[05:17] <seattlegaucho> do a 'whois' on aarnet.edu.au and you'll find out it's (most likely) just a hosting server
[05:18] <seattlegaucho> 'mirror' suggests it's a mirror for some other service/server
[05:18] <seattlegaucho> so it could be any service doing some updates in the background ... however it's too early to tell
[05:19] <seattlegaucho> I'm not familiar w/ etherape
[05:23] <chez> how would i turn off background updates?
[05:23] <chez> okay thanks
[05:24] <seattlegaucho> chez: you'll have to look into the crontab entries
[05:24] <seattlegaucho> or if you have a service running like "adept-updater" in your desktop
[05:25] <seattlegaucho> if you're worried about security, besides using an antivirus (ie: clamav), install a 'rootkit' check as well
[05:26] <chez> okay
[05:26] <seattlegaucho> both are easy to find using 'synaptic', aptitude or some other package manager
[06:35] <mostafa_> does anyone know sth about PartedMagic?
[07:23] <mbnoimi> systemsettings shows me empty window, how I can fix it (I'm using ubuntu)?
[08:17] <xsebsx> help, i am having trouble and i'm getting no feedback from the xubuntu and ubuntu channels, i had installed xubuntu desktop, iwas having trouble with the panel, it dissapeared, i got it to reappear and added it to the list of apps on startup but now i am having odd troubles with my system, for example i can't open nicotine and when i logged onto kde i had to kill the xfce panel because it came atop of the kde panels
[08:17] <xsebsx> how can i get rid of xubuntu desktop?
[08:17] <xsebsx> and can someone help me figure out what's keeping nicotine from starting up?
[08:20] <mbnoimi> systemsettings shows me empty window, how I can fix it (I'm using ubuntu)?
[08:24] <hemal> hello. my USB stick write speeed is very slow
[08:25] <hemal> google gives a lot of hits and it seems to me this has something to do with whether the writes are synchronous
[08:26] <hemal> but the instructions seems to be for ubuntu (right click on the device icon on the desktop, select "Preferences")
[08:26] <hemal> how do i do this is kubuntu?
[08:27] <hemal> anybody home?
[08:48] <xsebsx> can someone help me out, i am having trouble with nicotine
[09:22] <Lucjan> I have a big problem
[09:25] <carolija> Lucjan just ask and who know will help you out.
[09:27] <Lucjan> when I upgrade my KDE to version KDE 4.3 and restart computer, i can't do nothing!
[10:14] <amik> I'd like to transfer files off a phone via usb (sony ericsson k750i) but it doesn't show up as a storage device when connected. any way to do this?
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> many Phones have a 'usb data, or usb storage' mode in the menus you need to set  properly for the USB thing to show as a drive
[10:20] <amik> Dr_Willis: thanks, I looked for such an option but didn't see anything regarding usb
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> every phone ive ever had - has  had that..
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> but its amazing how  bad phone guis/settings/menus are these days
[10:21] <amik> I've gone through all config options one by one and didn't see any mention of usb... would it have another name?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> Provberly could.. :) but i cant thinkof any other names
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> I always end up getting the Manuals for my phones in PDF and searching them.
[10:23] <amik> btw, I see in dmesg an /dev/sdc being added, but no mount or /dev/sdc1
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> check 'sudo fdisk -l' perhaps.. or just try to mount it
[10:25] <amik> fdisk -l doesn't show it, and mounting fails after a long stall with "mount: no medium found on /dev/sdc"
[10:28] <amik> oh well, I'll try playing with it some more later, or boot into winxp
[10:28] <amik> thanks though :-)
[10:34] <xsebsx> how can i get the restricted extras
[10:34] <cor> apt-get
[10:34] <xsebsx> sudo apt-get restricted extras?
[10:35] <cor> sudo aptitude -y install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:35] <cor> don't forget it;s the TAB key to get you to the OK buttons! ;o)
[10:37] <xsebsx> cor: would you help me check if my sources list has all the backports, third parties, etc enabled? i just recently had to reinstall kubuntu and i am having trouble watchign avi files which i didn't before
[10:38] <xsebsx> how can i open my sources list?
[10:38] <cor> /etc/apt/sources/lst
[10:38] <cor> replace last / for .
[10:38] <xsebsx> how can i open them with kate though
[10:38] <cor> use sftp
[10:38] <xsebsx> how?
[10:38] <cor> either in dolphin, or kate itself
[10:38] <cor> fttp://root@localhost/etc/
[10:38] <xsebsx> but what's the command on the terminal
[10:39] <cor> sftp:// rather
[10:39] <cor> no shell required
[10:39] <xsebsx> there's a command to open it from kate on a shell
[10:39] <cor> in a shell, use mc
[10:39] <xsebsx> i remember that much
[10:39] <cor> sudo mc
[10:39] <cor> listen, opening kate from terminal = oldscool stupido method
[10:39] <xsebsx> how about sudo kate /etc/apt/sources,list ?
[10:40] <xsebsx> .*
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> kdesudo  may be better idea.
[10:40] <cor> if you rreally must run a text editor as root, just do sudo kate and then open open open whatever
[10:40] <cor> no, sftp is a better idea
[10:40] <cor> much, much, much better
[10:41] <cor> do it in dolphin, and now root acccess to your favourite system files is completely transparent
[10:41] <cor> and kate runs as a regular user
[10:41] <xsebsx> is everything ok here http://pastebin.ca/1546933 ?
[10:42] <xsebsx> whenver i try to open an avi file it says dragon player recomends downloading extra multimedia packages but i dont know which
[10:42] <cor> try vlc
[10:42] <cor> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu jaunty main
[10:42] <cor> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu jaunty main
[10:42] <cor> latest vlc rocks
[10:43] <cor> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7613768D
[10:43] <xsebsx> cor, can you help me out with nicotine? i am having trouble opening it at all
[10:43] <cor> erm, what? smoking?
[10:43] <xsebsx> no the program
[10:43] <cor> what is it?
[10:44] <xsebsx> Dr.
[10:44] <xsebsx> Dr-
[10:44] <cor> fuku then
[10:44] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: ?
[10:44] <cor> lol
[10:44] <xsebsx> it's a program
[10:44] <cor> clearly
[10:44] <xsebsx> for p2p
[10:44] <cor> 2 late. I'm not interested
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm?
[10:46] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: can you help me with nicotine
[10:46] <xsebsx> it's not working and i don't know why
[10:47] <xsebsx> i tried at the ubuntu channel but to no avail
[10:48] <apparle> has the Ati open source driver improved in karmic
[10:49] <apparle> and suggest a simple sound recoder
[10:54] <apparle> !record
[10:54] <apparle> !info record
[10:57] <manuel> hi
[10:57] <apparle> come on guys plz suggest a simple sound recorder for KDE
[10:57] <manuel>  i discovered the following problem after 1 or 2 hours my hdd in my laptop spins all the time and work is impossibel beacuse 100% hdd spin
[10:58] <manuel>  audacity
[10:58] <manuel> i traced the problem back to hal-acl-tool --reconfigure
[10:58] <manuel> is uses the hdd all the time but why and how can i stop this?
[11:14] <manuel> how can i stop hal-acl-tool --reconfigure
[11:23] <xsebsx> how can i install kde 4.3
[11:23] <xsebsx> ?
[11:24] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: see topic
[11:25] <xsebsx> !topic
[11:30] <xsebsx> is there a private ubuntu service
[11:30] <xsebsx> for customer service help
[11:30] <xsebsx> like a chat
[11:30] <xsebsx> or a phone line
[11:30] <FloodBotK1> xsebsx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:30] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: theres a paid help service
[11:33] <apparle> !grub
[11:34] <apparle> please suggest a gui for managing grub
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Hmm
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> thers a kde grub gui tool in the repos
[11:34] <shadeslayer> apparle: kgrubedotor
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> but best thing to do for grub is learn it .....
[11:34] <shadeslayer> !info kgrubeditor | apparle
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> of course grub2 is in the next release.. :)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> with totally diffrent configs.
[11:35] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: yep...
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> allready been reading up on Grub2 :)  not sure why its so much better.. but i imagine theres some reasons
[11:36] <xsebsx> well, i had no trouble with ubuntu and nicotine before i installed and then removed xfce, everythign was working fine when i had gnome adn kde only and now even after removing xubuntu i can't open nicotine, so i figure, i'll back everything up, adn reinstall ubuntu with the cd
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> run nicitine from a terminal look for error messages?
[11:37] <apparle> how is grub editor compared to startup manager
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Grub is for the bootmenu.. startup manager is for services/things that run for the OS itself...
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> totally different stages of the OS.  If thats what you are asking
[11:38] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.ca/1546917
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> xsebsx:  means very little to me.. I dont do python.
[11:40] <apparle> Dr_Willis: will I be able to configure grub using startupmanager
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> it could be wanting some other versionof python or some support modles that got removed.  (i am guessing)
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> apparle:  no idea. I configure grub by  using a text editor..
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> run startup manager and see if it does grub configs.
[11:41] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: i know, that's what most other people said, so i am going to use the shipit cd again
[11:41] <xsebsx> and start from scratch
[11:41] <apparle> Dr_Willis: same here.........but my friend is a total noob
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> xsebsx:  i have seen apps that use 2.5 python and have issues with 2.6
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> xsebsx:  that Might be the case hwere.
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> apparle:  what is he wanting todo with grub anyway?
[11:42] <xsebsx> what does that mean? all i knkow is everything worked fine then i got xfce and after a day things behaved differently, for one thing the  xfce panel started dissapearing and then i couldn't open nicotine in none of the DEs
[11:42] <apparle> Dr_Willis: remove/rename entries, change priorities, delay etc
[11:43] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis:
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> xsebsx:  could be some how it was using Python 2.5 and you some how removed 2.5.. 2.6 is the default.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> xsebsx:  other then that.. Ive no other ideas.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> apparle:  that kde grub tool mentioned earlier can do that to some degree
[11:44] <apparle> Dr_Willis: thanks.........and tell me how to configure the background of grub via text editor
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> apparle:   thers some line  near the top that defines an image.. and that image has tobe a special format.. is about all i rember on that topic.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> I tend to comment out that line. I hate images in grub
[11:45] <apparle> Dr_Willis: ok thanks I'll see
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> GRUB is the kind of tool  that one just has to dive into ane read the docs  some times..
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> and experiment with.. and ive fought with it a lot over the last few years.
[11:46] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: what is python? i thought it was a language
[11:46] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: python 2.6 is the default for what? xubuntu? kubuntu?
[11:46] <xsebsx> i mean it worked before
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> xsebsx:  it is a programing language.
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> and 2.6 is the default with 9.04 ubuntu
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> befor that was 2.5
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> ive encountered some other programs that have issues with 2.6
[11:47] <xsebsx> well i installed jaunty
[11:47] <xsebsx> and it worked well
[11:47] <xsebsx> with jaunty
[11:47] <xsebsx> do you think the xfce had to do with it?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> perhaps that Nicotine program has a homepage/forum that may shed some light on the problem
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> if you installed xfce via the xubuntu-desktop It might of pulled in some other Pythion versions as well.
[11:48] <xsebsx> aha!
[11:48] <xsebsx> i think that's what did it
[11:48] <xsebsx> that bloody mouse!, i will never install xubuntu again
[11:49] <xsebsx> i didn't even like it as much as kde
[11:49] <xsebsx> no cool effects
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> you can have 2.5 and 2.6 and other verisons instralled at the same time
[11:50] <xsebsx> does it ever happen one upgrade gets rid of an older version?
[11:51] <Mamarok> guys, could you take this discussion to -offtopic, please? Support here only, please :)
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> the 6 mo release cycle ubuntu/kubuntu uses normally dosent do big 'version' changes. so normally its not an issue xsebsx
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> untill the next 'release'
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Python may be special. it came with 2.6 but you could also install 2.5 for compat with older programs.
[11:57] <xsebsx> Dr_Willis: are all of these old resoures available in the repos? can one use old repos?
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> they are in the same repo you are using now. try a 'apt-cache search python' and see how many 'versions' of python are there.
[11:59] <xsebsx> i know this seems offtopic but ive already started backingup and im ging to do a clean cd install
[11:59] <xsebsx> but is it necessary tobe updating and upgrading everytime there are software updates?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> thats why the 6 mo release cycle. to  let you have  an amount of time where theres not supposed to be any ' constant updates'
[12:14] <saifeddin> hi
[12:29] <phi_> hi all
[13:03] <xaker> всем привет
[13:29] <xaker> '
[14:29] <walid> salut
[14:30] <walid> pour la vlc comment je le telecharge
[14:38] <Mitticoooo> Hi I need to add permission to ADD files in a root folder
[14:39] <Mitticoooo> i gave the folder all permissions but I don't know why I can't add a new file
[14:39] <Mitticoooo> can someone help me? Thx
[14:45] <Mitticoooo> Hi I need to add permission to ADD files in a root folder
[14:45] <Mitticoooo> i gave the folder all permissions but I don't know why I can't add a new file
[14:45] <Mitticoooo> can someone help me? Thx
[14:49] <Guest32826> Hello! I'm trying to install Kubuntu 8.04.2 on a netbook (Acer Aspire One 751) and my problem is that the HDD is not recognized. It works fine with Kubuntu 9.04 but as my other computers have 8.04 I'd prefer to install it on the netbook, too.
[14:51] <Guest32826> I Tried an upgrade to 8.10 some time ago but it was too buggy. Did this change with 9.04 and how to migrate to the akonadi framework? (That's the point I've not changed to 9.04 so far.)
[15:06] <zebaztian> i just installed kubuntu and for some reason the special effects wont work
[15:07] <volty> hi, I installed edubuntu but in kde session I do not have the menu entry for them (edubuntu), while in gnome session I saw it is there ?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[15:08] <smarty> hello
[15:19] <martijn81> how does this piece of software called where you have a panel like MAC OSX?
[15:23] <martijn81> there is something called avant-window-navigator which is for gnome, but is there also something for kde?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> martijn81, it's also called a panel , if you're referring to where one can put quick launch icons
[15:26] <martijn81> BluesKaj: yeah you are correct, i ma reffering to such panel... do you got a packagename for me maybe?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ok martijn81 I think it's called "fancy tasks" for kde
[15:29] <martijn81> BluesKaj:  i do not see this in the repository
[15:30] <cor> what can it do that the regular KDE panel can't?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> martijn81, strange , can't seem to find a source for the app
[15:38] <martijn81> yeah i found one on kde-apps.org
[15:38] <martijn81> thanks man
[15:39] <BluesKaj> good
[15:39] <BluesKaj> martijn81, I'm interested now too :)
[15:40] <martijn81> BluesKaj: see this http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=369e0576213df60175a4fc82078ae6c8e04e75f6e8ebb871
[15:43] <zebaztian> i accidentally removed the taskbar panel
[15:43] <zebaztian> how can i get it back
[15:43] <martijn81> zebaztian: right click on your desktop and choose add panel> panel
[15:44] <zebaztian> when i do that
[15:44] <zebaztian> it adds a panel at the top of the screen
[15:44] <zebaztian> i meant to say the one witht he k menu
[15:44] <zebaztian> i also cant move down the one that appears at the top of the screen when i click on add panel
[15:45] <martijn81> zebaztian: you should be able to set it tp the bottum
[15:47] <martijn81> BluesKaj: i cannot seem to configure such panel to the  botum
[15:48] <martijn81> seems like this piece of software needs some more development
[15:56] <zebaztian> martijn81, ok i was able to set it but the widgets are in the wrong places
[15:56] <cor> it definitely still needs work. also, it can be placed on either of the four edges.
[15:56] <cor> also, the widgets move
[15:56] <zebaztian> how can i move the widgets?
[15:57] <cor> click the yin button
[15:57] <cor> or is it yan? I forget
[15:57] <zebaztian> ok but what i mean is
[15:57] <zebaztian> once i pick a widget
[15:57] <zebaztian> it sets it on an end of the panel that i don't wnat it to be and i can't move it afterward
[15:57] <cor> click the yin button
[15:57] <cor> AGAIN
[15:58] <cor> I know, crazy, but there you have it. Welcome to KDE!
[15:59] <cor> and be careful not to remove any widget you have more than one of - they will all vanish, along with all your carefully tuned settings...  *POOF*
[15:59] <cor> remove with the dialog, that is. always remove them manually, from their context menu.
[16:16] <Mamarok> dwidmann____: dou you have connection problems?
[16:16] <Mamarok> then please do not aoutjoin until this is sorted
[16:17] <Mamarok> dwidmann____: please do not aoutjoin until your connection problem is sorted
[16:31] <djilks> Hey all! I have asus 701sd, just installed 9.10 alpha4, and wireless is a no go. There's no obvious "connect now" and I don't know a cli tool to make it connect like it should. See the network, just won't connect.
[16:31] <djilks> Any ideas?
[16:35] <gjulian> djilks: You can get help for karmic in #ubuntu+1 . Maybe it's a know issue.
[16:35] <gjulian> *known
[16:36] <djilks> oh, okee thanks
[16:52] <ubuntu> i luv kubuntu ;)
[16:53] <ubuntu> ...but the multimedia apps don't work :(
[16:54] <ubuntu> ...amarok...for one...doesn't do ipods :(
[16:54] <ubuntu> ...some lib ipod is missing ???
[16:55] <ubuntu> ...and how do i load codecs???
[16:55] <ArkoldThos> amarok does work with ipods o.o
[16:55] <ArkoldThos> the ipod needs to be mounted
[16:56] <ubuntu> lmao...obviously!
[16:57] <ubuntu> i have used amarok on bsd...no sweat! but with kubuntu...something about proprietary codecs something ???
[16:58] <lelousius> Hi
[16:59] <cypr1nus> hello, what can the problem with asus laptop and atheros wifi card, because the diode of wifi card lights only during the boot of the system and later it doesn't. Ifconfig shows it's up and I can scan networks but i can't connect to any, PLEASE HELP
[16:59] <ubuntu> what i really like about kubuntu / ubuntu anyway is the net connectivity...see, i'm using a Live! cd to connect to the net
[17:00] <gjulian> cypr1nus: With atheros wifi cards you need the module madwifi
[17:00] <lelousius> i have a problem with installing kubuntu :( .. screen freezes after klicking on Install
[17:00] <gjulian> !madwifi
[17:00] <cypr1nus> gjulian: really?
[17:01] <ubuntu> lelousius: maybe your install cd is corrupted...you have to do integrity check ;)
[17:01] <cypr1nus> damn
[17:03] <lelousius> hmm ... :( .. i guess you mean the one on the cd .. crashes too :(
[17:04] <ubuntu> lelousius: yep ;)
[17:04] <ubuntu> lelousius: you need a fresh Live cd ;)
[17:06] <lelousius> maybe my blank discs are all broken (they seem not to be normal)
[17:07] <lelousius> i tried 32 and 64 bit version .. and it crashed in both ..
[17:07] <ubuntu> lelousius: get fresh ones ;)
[17:07] <jhutchins_lt> lelousius: Are you verifying each image file when you download it?
[17:07] <lelousius> no..
[17:07] <ubuntu> ...of course
[17:08] <ubuntu> lelousius: always do an integrity check ;)
[17:08] <jhutchins_lt> Definitely worth the time to do so and not have to burn a bad file to disk, then see it fail.
[17:10] <ubuntu> lelousius: another sure-fire avoidance of fragmented/corrupted files is by saving the file directly to a flash drive! you can even have a USB Live material! :) isn't that neat? ;)
[17:11] <aerora> hey
[17:11] <aerora> iemand aanwezig?
[17:11] <aerora> zit met een klein probleempje
[17:11] <ubuntu> aerora: english???
[17:11] <aerora> yeah offcourse;)
[17:12] <aerora> im stuck with a small problem
[17:12] <ubuntu> aerora: how small? ;)
[17:12] <aerora> i have a problem in the grub
[17:12] <aerora> error 15
[17:12] <ubuntu> aerora: grub-install :)
[17:12] <aerora> where?
[17:13] <aerora> i cant typ anything here
[17:13] <ubuntu> aerora: do a fresh grub install ;)
[17:13] <aerora> i swith the pc on and it says grub loading error 15
[17:14] <aerora> cant do anything
[17:14] <aerora> in any way
[17:14] <aerora> its an old IBM
[17:14] <ubuntu> aerora: you'll just have to re-install grub
[17:14] <aerora> with a ubuntu cd?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> aerora, open your /boot/grb/menu.lst in the run command (Alt+f2)
[17:15] <aerora> yep
[17:15] <aerora> but
[17:15] <aerora> its not starting up
[17:15] <aerora> can get past the grub
[17:15] <FloodBotK1> aerora: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <aerora> cant*
[17:15] <BluesKaj>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:16] <BluesKaj> what pc are you on , live cd ?
[17:16] <aerora> im on a jaunty jacklope
[17:16] <ubuntu> aerora: just re-install the whole thing ;)
[17:16] <BluesKaj> aerora, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:17] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, stop that , it won't help
[17:17] <aerora> im trying to instal ubuntu on an old ibm and that worked now every time i startup i cant do anything it only says grub loading error 15
 aerora, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst <<< the guy can't even boot !!! he can't get a prompt ;)
[17:18] <aerora> yay we have a winner
[17:18] <aerora> thats correct;)
[17:18] <BluesKaj> aerora, that'what i asked ..how are you communicating to us right now ?
[17:18] <aerora> on a ubuntu PC
[17:18] <ubuntu> aerora: your ibm being old does not have anything to do with it...most booting problems come as a result of faulty installs
[17:18] <aerora> trying to instal it on a different PC
[17:19] <aerora> did it the same way as this one;)
[17:19] <BluesKaj> ok , so do you have a live cd to run on the other pc ?
[17:19] <MeowKItten> Hi,im havingproblems with my DVD drive,i recently made backups of my old system and now my DVD drive claims ther unreadable yet they work fine on other systems.
[17:19] <aerora> yes
[17:19] <aerora> that didnt work
[17:19] <aerora> ubuntu starts
[17:19] <aerora> but after the loading screen the screen is black
[17:20] <BluesKaj> ok run the live cd on the other pc and call up the grub file with the cmnds i posted above , then paste the text on pastebin
[17:21] <ubuntu> aerora: get a fresh Live cd...the one you have is corrupted
[17:21] <aerora> ok;)
[17:21] <aerora> wait a sec starting up right now
[17:21] <MeowKItten> aerora: did you run a MD5 check?
[17:21] <aerora> i think the problem is in my video card
[17:21] <BluesKaj> screen is black , how long did you wait ?
[17:21] <aerora> i see a trippy screen right now
[17:22] <aerora> about 15 hours
[17:22] <MeowKItten> Do you get any errors when booting?
[17:22] <aerora> nothing
[17:23] <MeowKItten> trippy screen? distortions and vibrantrs colers ala LSD? or lattice like framwork like mescaline and otehr phenletlyamines? either way thats cool! i wish my screen was all trippy
[17:23] <aerora> but i booted the live CD i see the background now only its trippy
[17:23] <lelousius> where can i get the md5-sums for kubuntu ?
[17:23] <aerora> yes it looks like i used lsd
[17:23] <MeowKItten> !md5
[17:24] <aerora> now the screen is gray
[17:24] <MeowKItten> Nobdy has any ideas on my cd/dvdrom drive issue?
[17:24] <ubuntu> MeowKitten: lmao...you need a visit from your friendly neighborhood cops ;)
[17:25] <ubuntu> aerora: don't waste your time...but if you enjoy wasting time...fine ;)
[17:25] <aerora> i like wasting time
[17:25] <Byron_> Hello everyone
[17:25] <ubuntu> aerora: just download a Live usb material ;)
[17:25] <MeowKItten> hello world
[17:26] <ubuntu> MeowKitten: that's too Java-ish ;)
[17:26] <aerora> i have a wizard 3d video card maybe thats a problem? Dsystems Wizar3D 144a.10H
[17:26] <aerora> IBM cant boot from USB
[17:27] <Byron_> jussi01: I figured out what it was with my netbook. Had to change SATA to IDE instead of AHCI
[17:27] <ubuntu> aerora: first install your distro and then you can worry about your video card...see if your distro recognises it by running "dmesg"
[17:27] <BluesKaj> aerora, look for that video card in your package manager to see if it's supported
[17:27] <aerora> synaptic?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> synaptic works yes
[17:27] <Byron_> Is anyone having issues with the repos? I keep getting this error: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_partner_binary-i386_Packages. The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:28] <ubuntu> aerora: dmesg (whoever suggested synaptic?!)
[17:29] <ubuntu> aerora: synaptic is for packages...NOT hardware recognition
[17:29] <MeowKItten> aerora: Try blindly running some commands strangers on-line give you ,its usually a great idea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:29] <MeowKItten> See if you card is listed
[17:30] <ubuntu> aerora: even if your card is not listed, ubuntu/kubuntu always has some generic driver for it
[17:30] <aerora> hmm
[17:31] <aerora> you know i cant run a terminal right?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> synaptic , is good for finding driver support , if he's not on the pc he's running dmesg on I don't see the point
[17:31] <aerora> live cd is trippy
[17:31] <MeowKItten> noi didint,reboot into recovery mode
[17:31] <MeowKItten> oh i forgot your on a live cd,why cant you run a terminal?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> he has to run dmesg on the affected pc, ubuntu
[17:32] <MeowKItten> byron try this,close out any programs like synaptic,apt,aptitude/etc
[17:32] <aerora> becouse the display is trippy cant see anything only see parts of the desktop my mouse 10 times
[17:32] <ubuntu> Blues: he's ON the affected pc ;)
[17:32] <MeowKItten> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[17:32] <BluesKaj> he sais hecouldn't get to a screen
[17:32] <MeowKItten> Byron_: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[17:33] <MeowKItten> Byron_: sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[17:33] <MeowKItten> Byron_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:33] <MeowKItten> Byron_: sudo aptitude install -f
[17:33] <aerora> ok
[17:34] <aerora> im on instal screen now
[17:34] <ubuntu>  <MeowKItten> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*  <<< you're being destructive...humans are supposed to be helpful...unless you're from some dark planet somewhere :D
[17:34] <MeowKItten> Byron_: sudo aptitude update
[17:34] <aerora> i can boot live cd and stuff
[17:34]  * ubuntu pounds on his toe with a jackhammer
[17:34] <BluesKaj> aerora, sounds like grub may be the least of your probs with that pc :P
[17:34] <MeowKItten> dontthe rest ofthe comandsi gacve him set im up with a new sources list?
[17:35] <Byron_> MeowKItten: Thank you. That seems to have done the trick.
[17:35] <aerora> good possible its very old but perfect for a server
[17:35] <ubuntu> aerora: install the server
[17:35] <BluesKaj> aerora, what kind of specs on the old pc ?
[17:36] <MeowKItten> ubuntu: See i wasn't trying to be destructive. :P
[17:36] <aerora> 1.6 Ghz
[17:36] <aerora> 512 MB ram
[17:37] <aerora> but i think the video card is the problem
[17:37] <ubuntu> MeowKitten: throw the chemicals out! live a healthy life...be a vegetable :D
[17:38] <aerora> ill instal it again then boot terminal
[17:38] <BluesKaj> aerora, not too bad , jaunty will run altho your memory is a bit iffy
[17:38] <MeowKItten> aerora:  why not install and deal with your problems from there? once youve installed you could acsess a terminal. Did you ever rua  MD% checksum on you ISO?
[17:38] <Byron_> s/rua MD%/run a MD5
[17:38] <Byron_> :)
[17:39] <aerora> again i cant acces ubuntu becouse afther the ubuntu loading screen the screen blacks out and if i use the liveCD i get a trippy screen
[17:39] <ubuntu> aerora: install the ubuntu / kubuntu server instead...
[17:39] <MeowKItten> aerora: once installed you can load up into recovery mode
[17:40]  * BluesKaj backs off the aerora prob ...too many cooks
[17:40] <aerora> hmm
[17:40] <BluesKaj> aerora, good luck
[17:40] <aerora> i can uload a screenshot of the display problem
[17:40] <aerora> ty blue
[17:40] <MeowKItten> recovery mode gives your acses to a terminal where you could configuyre a gernic video driver
[17:40] <krakatoa> aerora: it has been established that what you need to do right now is deal with a fresh install...and fresh install from a clean disc, that is ;)
[17:41] <aerora> done that 2 times
[17:41] <aerora> 2 times screen blacks out
[17:41] <BluesKaj> I believe MeowKItten is correct , drop tty prompt alt+ctrl+f2
[17:41] <aerora> uploading a pic of the display now
[17:41]  * krakatoa scratches on the peeling off paint on the wall
[17:42] <Byron_> I put a new video card on my old desktop. I now have GeForce 7600GS, but it keeps on freezing my system at random points. Any solution to this? I'm running the driver from nVidia as the provided drivers kill KDM.
[17:42] <martijn81> does anyone of you have an idea how to get this website to work under linux? http://photolaptop.com/
[17:42] <MeowKItten> its acssessabel from your GRUB menu and as krakatoa said please burna  new disc,maybe try ubuntu alternative install for better preformance,you can run sudo appt-get install kubuntu-desktop? to install the kubuntu packages and choose from your logon screen which desktop enviroement you wan tot load up. with your memory id personaly use ubuntu but kubuntu will still work,just a bit sluggish.
[17:43] <BluesKaj> martijn81, it need MS Silverlight
[17:43] <ubuntu> oh, well :)
[17:43] <BluesKaj> it might run in wine
[17:44] <martijn81> BluesKaj: i see, and i also see there is moonlight, the OS implementation for this
[17:44] <martijn81> but the site does not work after i install it
[17:44] <MeowKItten> Byron_:  are you using teh restricted drivers? If so try using a older dirver. somtiems the restricted one in my experiance cause crashes and downgrading can *sometiems* fix the issue
[17:44] <ubuntu> i despise wine...anybody in love with a windoze app should just run windoze and forget about linux!
[17:45] <aerora> this is my screen this is what i mean with trippy  http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1933/dsc02719.jpg
[17:45] <Byron_> MeowKItten: No, the restricted drivers (all of them) send me to TTY2. I'm using the driver from the nVidia site
[17:45] <MeowKItten> wines annoying but tis progressing into a more usaable application. hopefully someday it will work perfectly.
[17:46] <MeowKItten> aerora: looks like a resolution issue. if you ca get furtehr try adjusting your display resulution
[17:47] <MeowKItten> Byron_: sorry no idea..
[17:47] <Byron_> MeowKItten: No worries. Thanks for giving it a shot.
[17:48] <MeowKItten> im having problems with my DVD drive,i recently made backups of my old system and now my DVD drive claims their unreadable yet they work fine on other systems,any ideas?
[17:48] <aerora> its not my resolution tryed everything from 800x 600 to 1920 x 1080
[17:48] <aerora> maybe your bus cable? or maybe its set as a master
[17:49] <MeowKItten> aerora: once again try what everyones suggested: clean install from a NEW disc,probably using a alternaitve install cd.
[17:49] <aerora> and once again i installed it 2 times
[17:49] <aerora> 8.04 and 9.04
[17:49] <aerora> both dont work
[17:50] <ubuntu> MeowKitten: <MeowKItten> im having problems with my DVD drive,i recently made backups of my old system and now my DVD drive claims their unreadable yet they work fine on other systems,any ideas? <<< is it a RAW file ???
[17:51] <aerora> ill try to instal windows 2k and instal it from there anyway thanks for the help
[17:53] <MeowKItten> ubuntu; no i usut put files onto a dvd and buredit,nothign special
[17:54] <ml> hello
[17:55] <ubuntu> MeowKitten: if you're on a windoze box TRY >>> winimage ...linuz has something better...back ups should always be done as images...not files
[17:58] <ubuntu> aerora: adjust your resolution to a lower value by fixing it to a windoze box...then connect it to your linux installation
[17:59] <ubuntu> aerora: crt or tft / lcd ???
[18:00] <rosco_y> I'm trying to recursively search for *.cs files containing a keyword, does anyone know the "fgrep" syntax?
[18:00] <rosco_y> or, is fgrep the command I want to be using for this?
[18:00] <aerora> lcd 26 inch
[18:01] <rosco_y> It seems to me that this should work: fgrep -R keyword *.cs, but I get the error: "fgrep: *.cs: No such file or directory"
[18:02] <lelousius> *trying to install kubuntu from usb-key now*
[18:02] <lelousius> c u
[18:02] <ubuntu> aerora: obviously, the distro does not have a driver for your monitor
[18:03] <ubuntu> lelousius: all the best ;)
[18:04] <rosco_y> aerora: do you have the correct driver for your video chipset?
[18:04] <rosco_y> (or video card)
[18:05] <ubuntu> aerora: use a different monitor just until you get through with the install...then you can fiddle with the settings:)
[18:05] <rosco_y> y, sometimes you just have to jiggle things a little to make them work
[18:06] <rosco_y> don't be afraid to reformat, reinstall :)
[18:06] <rosco_y> just kidding (a little)
[18:06] <ubuntu> rosco_y: don't be afraid to reformat, reinstall :) <<< some people don't have the time ;)
[18:06] <rosco_y> ubuntu: how true
[18:07] <cinex> rosco_y: egrep or grep -e ?
[18:07] <rosco_y> cinex: ty, I'm trying to recursively search for files containing a search word
[18:07] <cinex> and u might need to do 'keyword' or "keyword"
[18:08] <rosco_y> cinex: well, in my case I'm looking for *.cs files containing "alertWidth"
[18:08] <cinex> or possible egrep keyword `ls *.cs`
[18:08] <cinex> it depends how it handles filenames
[18:08] <ubuntu> rosco_y: man fgrep ;)
[18:08] <cinex> kk
[18:09] <rosco_y> ubuntu: ty, I should have tried that in the first place :)
[18:09] <ubuntu> rosco_y: man fgrep takes you to grep
[18:10] <aerora> i used a 19 inch tft
[18:10] <aerora> didnt work
[18:10] <rosco_y> ubuntu: using the help, I thought this should work: "fgrep -R alertWidth *.cs"
[18:10] <rosco_y> but it doesn't
[18:11] <aerora> trying windows 7600 now
[18:11] <aerora> and it works perfect
[18:11] <rosco_y> if I'm actually in the directory, "fgrep alertWidth *.cs" works, and -R is the recurse directories option
[18:11] <ubuntu> aerora: good for you ;)
[18:11] <aerora> i dont like windows:(
[18:12] <rosco_y> aerora: I find them useful for checking the weather
[18:12] <aerora> you can do that with ubuntu;0
[18:12] <rosco_y> lol
[18:12] <aerora> damn
[18:12] <rosco_y> not working perfectly anymore, I'll bet
[18:13] <aerora> no im stunned by the graphics with a wizard 3d
[18:13] <KDesk> hi, do you know any amarok git repo for karmic?
[18:13] <rosco_y> aerora: oh, that's nice
[18:13] <aerora> it can run the newest windows
[18:13] <rosco_y> I'm stunned when I can get both monitors working correctly
[18:13] <aerora> but it cant run ubuntu
[18:14] <rosco_y> I'll be stunned when I figure out "fgrep"
[18:15] <rosco_y> I think it's time for a google search
[18:15] <aerora> google is your friend
[18:15] <aerora> only the search engine
[18:15] <rosco_y> aerora: agreed, I couldn't get along without google
[18:16] <ajfuel> hey guys.. how to join an array of integers in C ?
[18:16] <rosco_y> ajfuel: I think you have to allocate space and copy to a new array
[18:17] <cinex> rosco_y: did u try -f *.cs
[18:17] <cinex> ?
[18:17] <ajfuel> rosco_y: oh okay.
[18:17] <cinex> (egrep -r "lee_" *log*
[18:17] <rosco_y> cinex: no I didn't...but am all over it now
[18:17] <cinex> )
[18:17] <cinex> works for me running on chatroom logs
[18:18] <cinex> fgrep too
[18:18] <rosco_y> cinex: when the logs are in subdirectories?
[18:18] <cinex> submit it and find out :P
[18:18] <cinex> yeah
[18:18] <cinex> e logs are in subdirectories
[18:19] <ubuntu> rosco_y: grep -F -r --include=PATTERN
[18:19] <rosco_y> cinex: I tried "fgrep -f alertWidth *.cs" and I got "fgrep:  alertWidth: No such file or directory"
[18:20] <cinex> works in the directory without the -r too
[18:20] <rosco_y> ubuntu the PATTERN is the text to search for, or the file filter?
[18:20] <cinex> string to search for
[18:20] <rosco_y> k, thanks
[18:20] <ubuntu> rosco_y: the pattern to search for
[18:21] <cinex> egrep -e lee_ -f *log*
[18:21] <cinex> works too
[18:21] <cor> rosco_y, "find"
[18:22] <rosco_y> :) sheesh, I had a buddy who thought tech support might be better for windows than for linux, was he ever wrong
[18:23] <rosco_y> cor: wouldn't find be more for finding files than searching in them?
[18:24] <cinex> rosco_y: cat *.log |grep lee_
[18:24] <cinex> or
[18:24] <cor> ahh I musta misread your initial question
[18:24] <cinex> cat *.cs |grep that-word-u-wanted
[18:24] <cor> I use mc for that, it's quicker
[18:25] <cor> it basically uses grep, but without you having to think about the switches
[18:25] <cor> sudo aptitude install mc
[18:25] <rosco_y> intuitively, I thought fgrep would be the one I want (as in "file" grep)
[18:25] <cor> or the Dolphin find command, of course, which has content search, and the back-end is already running
[18:26] <cinex> rosco_y: is it not just shorthand for "grep -e"
[18:26] <cinex> ?
[18:26] <rosco_y> cinex: I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you're right--it seems like I did see that before
[18:27] <rosco_y> well, I have to run and pick up my daughter from her cousin's house, Thanks a Lot Everybody!
[18:28] <aerora> who has a good alternative for ubuntu
[18:28] <rosco_y> see you on the go-round
[18:28] <cinex> aerora: debian
[18:28] <aerora> cinex: it must be stable and easy to work with
[18:28] <cinex> oh
[18:28] <cinex> well ubuntu is very much just a preconfigured debian
[18:29] <aerora> maybe suze or fedora?
[18:29] <Brian__> i need some advise i am running kubuntu kde 4.3 and i aloso have gnome installed, ok so i installed kxdocker onto my desktop and when i run the docker it opens but insted of seeing the dock i see a outline of the dock and in the outline i see my wallpaper to my gnome desktop ,kinda like ab little dock shaped window to my gnome desktop any ideas how to fix this
[18:29] <cinex> have u tired ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu
[18:29] <cinex> to see if there is one you prefer?
[18:29] <aerora> ubuntu
[18:29] <aerora> like the gnome desktop
[18:29] <cinex> aerora: i prefer kde to gnome
[18:30] <cinex> its easy to install
[18:30] <aerora> kde is to windowsy:P
[18:31]  * ubuntu is back
[18:31] <aerora> ubuntu
[18:31] <aerora> what to you advise me?
[18:31] <aerora> an alternative for ubuntu
[18:32] <aerora> i like the gnome desktop and it must be easy to use
[18:32] <ubuntu> aerora: ??? what? did i miss anything?
[18:32] <aerora> ubuntu is simply not working with my video card
[18:32] <ubuntu> aerora: would it be proper to suggest a different distro for you in this channel ;)
[18:32] <ubuntu> aerora: try fedora
[18:32] <cinex> i was about to say fedora
[18:33] <cinex> but u should google around about the video card first
[18:33] <aerora> also an active community?
[18:33] <aerora> i know;)
[18:33]  * ubuntu waits to get kicked out of the channel
[18:33] <cinex> it might be one of those ones that will never work
[18:33] <cinex> mandriva too
[18:33] <aerora> you know what
[18:33] <aerora> ill ask google this one;)
[18:33] <aerora> download everything
[18:33] <aerora> and instal them in virtualbox
[18:34] <ubuntu> aerora: don't install the unbuntu /kubuntu desktop...install the server instead
[18:34] <cinex> google your graphics card
[18:34] <cinex> check for linux support
[18:34] <aerora> ubuntu: server edition doesnt work
[18:34] <ubuntu> aerora: wow...that's a surprise
[18:34] <aerora> it crashes then the terminal appers
[18:35] <aerora> when
[18:35] <cinex> at distro will work with my graphics card and is easy to use - dont worry ill not tell u what my card is - you can guess"
[18:35] <ubuntu> aerora: don't use X11
[18:36] <ubuntu> aerora: try xfce
[18:36] <aerora> i get serveral options
[18:36] <ubuntu> aerora: you don't need a desktop if you run a server...use a terminal
[18:37] <KDesk> Amarok 2.1 starts slow in my computer, like ~20 seconds, any one else with this slow startup?
[18:37] <aerora> mandriva, fedora, suse, red hat, knoppix, mepis, slackware, debian, gentoo, linspire
[18:37] <ubuntu> aerora: pardus
[18:38] <aerora> luckly for me i got a fast connection
[18:38] <aerora> ill try them al;)
[18:38] <aerora> long live virtualbox
[18:38] <ubuntu> aerora: hallelujiah! :D
[18:38] <KDesk> aerora: look at distro watch, they have a big +100 list of distros :)
[18:38] <aerora> im looking at iso.linuxquestions.org
[18:38] <ubuntu> KDesk: upgrade your kde
[18:39] <KDesk> ubuntu: why do you say that? I have 4.3.0
[18:39] <ubuntu> KDesk: i thought you didn't have the latest...amarok should work with the latest
[18:40] <ubuntu> KDesk: "should" and when it doesn't we scratch our eyeballs
[18:40] <KDesk> ubuntu: ah, I have the latest, both, but amarok is slow since 2.1 or 2.0
[18:41] <ubuntu> Uptime: 2 hours and 1 minutes
[18:41] <crazycoders> hi, anyone can help me fix a problem with my apache server please?
[18:41] <ubuntu> wow! not bad uptime for Live CD :D
[18:41] <KDesk> ubuntu: hehe, maybe in git it is better..
[18:42] <ubuntu> crazycoders: man httpd
[18:42] <crazycoders> ubuntu: common, it's not a man page i want
[18:42] <crazycoders> i have a problem with it
[18:43] <crazycoders> i have setup webmin, and when i create vhosts, only one respond for the two of them although i specified a hostname in both
[18:43] <ubuntu> crazycoders: you have a problem with "man" pages???
[18:43] <ubuntu> crazycoders: ah. ok
[18:44] <crazycoders> for example, i set up svn.7dfx.com and cmdb.7dfx.com
[18:44] <ubuntu> [23:12] <crazycoders> i have setup webmin, and when i create vhosts, only one respond for the two of them although i specified a hostname in both <<< vhosts work best with bsd
[18:44] <crazycoders> and both respond on the VNC
[18:45] <crazycoders> ahhh man, wtf... it works now
[18:45] <crazycoders> it didn't work this morning when i set it up
[18:45] <aerora> downloading opensuse fedora and mandriva now anyone else with a good advise?
[18:45] <crazycoders> i messed with it for like 2h
[18:45] <ubuntu> crazycoders: call that "glitch" :D
[18:45] <crazycoders> yeah
[18:45] <crazycoders> ohhhhhhh it came back, no that problem i had fixed, it's a problem with svn i keep getting now
[18:45] <crazycoders> do you know anything about SVN?
[18:46] <ubuntu> crazycoders: i know less, google knoew more???
[18:46] <crazycoders> obviously, but that error is very unspecific
[18:46] <crazycoders> OPTIONS OF <<svn.7dfx.com>> resulted in 200 ok...
[18:47] <crazycoders> sends back ok
[18:47] <ubuntu> crazycoders: tinker, tinker and tinker some more
[18:47] <crazycoders> but it says its an error
[18:47] <crazycoders> :P
[18:48] <ubuntu> crazycoders: 2 hours is like hey, what's 2 hours???
[18:48] <crazycoders> lol, whats the point of an IRC channel no-one helps? I don't need MAN or Google advice, i can do it myself and if i came here it's probably because i already tried that
[18:48] <crazycoders> hah
[18:49] <ubuntu> crazycoders: everything comes with a documentation including httpd or whatever
[18:50] <ubuntu> this cahnnel if for coffee and things ephemeral...nobody ever gets help from this channel :P
[18:50] <cor> excellent news! I must go read how to create dolphin service menus. Doh!
[18:52] <genii> crazycoders: webmin is no longer provided with (k)ubuntu, or supported. It was replaced with ebox
[18:52] <genii> crazycoders: You *may* find someone in #ubuntu-server who could help
[19:00] <aerora> hmm
[19:00] <aerora> i cant find fedora with gnome ?
[19:00] <genii> maybe you want a fedora channel :)
[19:01] <crazycoders> ok so webmin not recommended, i'll try to apt-get ebox, brb
[19:01] <crazycoders> although i doubt it's what is causing my svn problems
[19:26] <MeowKItten> Hi im on step 5 here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=942664 and im getting these errors:nord@fnord-desktop:~/git$ make depend
[19:26] <MeowKItten> make: *** No rule to make target `depend'.  Stop.
[19:26] <MeowKItten> fnord@fnord-desktop:~/git$ make
[19:26] <MeowKItten> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[19:26] <MeowKItten> fnord@fnord-desktop:~/git$ sudo make install
[19:26] <MeowKItten> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[19:26] <FloodBotK1> MeowKItten: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <MeowKItten> Hi im on step 5 here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=942664 and im getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/m41b5a741
[19:30] <javier_> hola
[19:30] <kathrin> hola :)
[19:31] <javier_> que tal?
[19:31] <javier_> de donde eres?
[19:31] <kathrin> bien, gracias. pero:
[19:31] <kathrin> !es
[19:31] <javier_> where do you come from?
[19:32] <javier_> are you there?
[19:32] <kathrin> germany, but this is a support channel only, if you want to chat, please go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <javier_> thanks
[19:33] <javier_> have a good day
[19:33] <kathrin> you too
[19:35] <MeowKItten> !compiz
[19:37] <MeowKItten> um how come kubuntu claims deb is not a command?
[19:38] <MeowKItten> !deb
[19:38] <MeowKItten> fnord@fnord-desktop:~/git$ deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[19:38] <MeowKItten> bash: deb: command not found
[19:38] <MeowKItten> !version
[19:38] <FloodBotK1> MeowKItten: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <kathrin> MeowKItten: deb is not a command
[19:39] <suman> guys, i am trying to set up vpn in kubuntu 8.04
[19:39] <suman> but have heard that there are bugs with the knetwork-manager
[19:39] <suman> anyone knows a fix for this
[19:40] <kathrin> MeowKItten: if you want to add an additional repository, you need to write the line you mentioned into your /etc/apt/sources.list ,then you can update your sources with apt-get udpate and you can afterwards download compiz like a normale package
[19:40] <kathrin> MeowKItten: If you want to install a *.deb package you can do so through commandline, using the comand dpkg
[19:42] <crazycoders> hey i'm back
[19:43] <crazycoders> i removed webmin and installed ebox, but i can't seem to edit my users or even access my httpd vhosts
[19:43] <crazycoders> am i missing something
[19:43] <crazycoders> ?
[20:37] <JeffH-> Is 10gb enough space to install kubuntu and take it for a test drive?
[20:38] <StupidWeasel> Yes JeffH, that's plenty :)
[20:38] <JeffH-> StupidWeasel: Thanks
[20:39] <StupidWeasel> Well not "plenty". But enjoy to give it a good spin =P
[20:41] <JeffH-> My father just want to see how it looks.  I now need to figure out if I can install from usb rather than burning a cd
[20:43] <kathrin> JeffH-: you should even be able to install it and boot from your usb ;)
[20:44] <JeffH-> will it be slow?  I tried installing OS X to a usb stick and it was SLOW!
[20:45] <kathrin> JeffH-: yeah it'll be slower
[20:45] <JeffH-> Is there a way to install it to a usb stick from OS X? ( don't have Windows)
[20:46] <kathrin> these are instructions to install from a usbstick: http://www.pcwelt.de/start/software_os/vista/news/130336/windows_vista_64_bit_digital_signierte_treiber_werden_pflicht/
[20:46] <kathrin> sry
[20:46] <kathrin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:46] <FloodBotK1> kathrin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <Dragnslcr> If you burn it to a CD, you can also run from the CD without installing anything to a hard disk
[20:46] <Dragnslcr> Not sure if you can do a Live run from USB
[20:47] <JeffH-> that's a good point.  I guess I can just burn a cd
[20:55] <gr8expectations> I am looking for some help with ubuntu. New user, cannot get sound to work on web, tried lots of solutions from the support boards
[20:56] <gr8expectations> never used irc before either, am i even in the right place to ask for help?
[20:56] <Mamarok> gr8expectations: what exact version of Kubuntu are you using?
[20:56] <gr8expectations> ah, I am not using kubuntu, ubuntu 9.04
[20:57] <Mamarok> oh, then you should better ask in #ubuntu, I no nothing about Gnome, sorry
[20:57] <gr8expectations> thank you
[20:57] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[21:18] <MeowKItten> hi idlike a terminal on my desktop,like  a wiget or other sort of program,isthis possible?
[21:18] <MeowKItten> a keybored shorcut to bring it to the top or displaythe desktop would be nice too
[21:19] <Dragnslcr> You could set a global shortcut to launch Konsole
[21:20] <devilsadvocate> MeowKItten, look at yakuake
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> Or use a Quicklaunch widget
[21:49] <navetz> can someone help me I cannot get my krunner to work
[21:49] <navetz> i was having lots of issues when i upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04
[21:58] <navetz> does anyone know how to reinstall the run command ?
[22:05] <luismo> exit
[22:06] <genii> navetz: apt-cache search krunner     shows some possibles
[22:07] <navetz>  genii: I didn't  know about that thanks. I also didn't know the run command was a plasmoid widigt
[22:08] <genii> navetz: dpkg -S /usr/bin/krunner shows: kdebase-workspace-bin: /usr/bin/krunner          (the originating package of krunner)
[22:09] <genii> So conceivably you could do something like a sudo apt-get install --reinstall debase-workspace-bin              ....but I wouldn't chance doing it when in KDE
[22:10] <genii> bah, the "k" dropped from kdebase when I copy/pasted
[22:10] <navetz> genii: okay I'll go to a tty session and try it out
[22:24] <shadeslayer> meh
[22:24] <shadeslayer> plasma crash
[22:25] <shadeslayer> anyways
[22:25] <shadeslayer> bye all
[22:49] <MeowKItten> ok so kubuntu starts any program that was left running when the computer shuts down right? what about background processes and other things? wont this evently clutter things up and cause me to have a few hundred running programs/processes/etc?
[22:50] <MeowKItten> i mean of coure ill shut down any programs i dont want running but wont ther stillbe some i cant shut down or see? not sure if what im saying makes any sense,i dont realy know how to artiucalte it
[22:56] <baron86> Hello there, I got a problem with my CPU Load. Its an AMD Athlon 3200+ and i use Kubuntu 9.04 and in the Idle mode it consumes 33% where as in the System Monitor the total sum is about 8-10.. What else is running and i dont see it?
[22:57] <baron86> My Xp CPU Load was 2-3... whats wrong? I am new in Linux community but need assistance
[23:13] <Byron> Don't everyone chat at once, please ;)
[23:28] <pulaski> hello, I run kubuntu 9.04 jaunty.  I want to play an audio cd using kscd.  The generat configuration tab only allows me to select if the cd should be ejected after play.  After I have placed a music cd in my drive I must manually bring up kscd but then it doesn't begin to play.How can I configure kscd to recognize my audio cd drive?
[23:30] <Walex> what does "recognize my audio cd drive?" mean?
[23:32] <pulaski> Walex: Thank you for responding.  In my exerience configuration of a cd player allows one to choose from cd devices.  I have cdrom cdrom0 and cdrom1.  How does kscd know which cddrive contains the music cd?
[23:33] <genii> pulaski: I'd try checking off "Autoplay when CD inserted" as shown on this config screenshot of kscd http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdemultimedia/kscd/kscd-options-tab.html
[23:33] <Walex> pulaski: "Extras>Configue KsCD>CD-ROM device"
[23:34] <pulaski> Walex: thank you, I appreciate your suggestion
[23:42] <pulaski> I have just used sudo apt-get install kscd.  I can bring the player up but in does not look like the one in the help files.  If I enter kscd -v on the cl it returns QT; 4.5.0 , KDE: 4.2.2 (KDE4.2.2) KsCD: 1.5.  The right click configure brings up two tabs.  General, in wich I can only turn on or off auto eject and Appearance: in which I can only change the font.
[23:43] <pulaski> This is not the KsCD I'm falmiliar with from earlier versions of kubuntu.
[23:47] <joshua__> what it take to get X to respawn after ctrl+alt+bksp?
[23:48] <genii> joshua__: kdm restart
[23:48] <joshua__> from where?!?
[23:48] <genii> joshua__: ctrl-alt-f1 usually will still take you to console1 where you could issue something like: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[23:49] <joshua__> right now, ctrl-alt-f1 goes to a hung console since that getty didn't resapwan eitehr
[23:50] <genii> joshua__: Not good. Did any other respawn ? (tty2-tty5/6)
[23:51] <joshua__> nope
[23:51] <joshua__> I've got one working on tty2 right now
[23:51] <joshua__> if that shell dies, that's it
[23:52] <genii> joshua__: Did it go to busybox, or regular shell?
[23:52] <joshua__> normal shell
[23:53] <joshua__> I am really really considering doing apt-get install sysvinit right now
[23:53] <genii> joshua__: Should still be able to execute the kdm restart from there then
[23:53] <joshua__> so bloody what this kind of bug is madness
[23:54] <genii> joshua__: I haven't seen it before.
[23:54] <pulaski> Walex: Gone is the rectangular shape and familiar controls.  The help files provide the screenshot you posted a few moments ago.  That screenshot is unavailable with the version of KsCD that I have recently acquired.  Perhaps I can downgrade to an earlier version.  Can you provide a package name for the version from which you obtained your screen shot?
[23:55] <genii> pulaski: The screenshot is on the kde documentation site, it's not anything I have installed. I tend to use Amarok for my cd-playing
[23:55] <Walex> pulaski: that was by 'genii'. I am using KDE 3.5.10 BTW. But it is very likely that whatever version you are using also has a configurati8on dialog.


[14:01] <Fudge> sounds like heaps of fun
[18:44] <Pendulum> TheMuso: I hope you have good travels home!