[05:49] <zenmonk> question, i am trying to set up the script listed here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/797 does anyone know how?
[05:49] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir that get you what you wanted?
[05:49] <Keyseir> I think it did
[05:49] <Keyseir> Thanks Kingsqueak
[05:49] <Gex> noxxle: i've had that problem. usually just hit enter and you're fine.
[05:49] <Kingsqueak> also 'dmesg' and kern.log or boot.log in /var/log/messages
[05:49] <noxxle> i cannot hit enter
[05:49] <leofender> i need help please
[05:49] <noxxle> the login button doesnt allow unless i have a name
[05:50] <leofender> im new in linux
[05:50] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir if you want to know if cdrecord sees the drive    cdrecord --scanbus    if it shows there, it's likely good to go
[05:50] <CorpseFeeder> winecfg - it crashes. I can find lots of threads on forums about this crashing when you click audio tab, but every forum thread seems to get a different error to the one I am getting. help!
[05:50] <CorpseFeeder> if I search for my specific error, I get no search results ;(
[05:50] <h3htimo> is mesa the default video driver with fglrx?? can you change it to ati??
[05:50] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: I'm just trying to find the write speed my drive. I think the ID is all I need to google
[05:51] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir cdrecord is smart about that generally if you just don't give a speed= option
[05:51] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir it will default to whatever the media and drive can handle well
[05:51] <Gex> noxxle: try using your linux login and pass
[05:51] <leofender> hi
[05:51] <leofender> hi or hola!
[05:51] <leofender> i m from argentina
[05:52] <Some_Dude> so, um... hi, everyone
[05:52] <Keyseir> kingsqueak: I don't think cdrecord is working properly, says it has problems with my kernel version.
[05:52] <Kingsqueak> k
[05:52] <Keyseir> kingsqueak: cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[05:52] <leofender> ok
[05:52] <Keyseir> kingsqueak: Is that easy to fix..?
[05:52] <leofender> hi
[05:52] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir in dmesg does the drive show as a scsi drive or as say /dev/hdc ?
[05:52] <leofender> i need a free game linux for playing on line
[05:52] <astx813> Off topic, forgive me.  Is anyone else watching Stephen Colbert?
[05:53] <Some_Dude> I just tried to upgrade to Edgy Eft and I can't seem to get anything to work anymore ... does anybody here know what unifont is and why APT wants to get rid of it?
[05:53] <leofender> i need a free linux game
[05:53] <Kingsqueak> leofender xfrisk
[05:53] <Kingsqueak> heh
[05:53] <Keyseir> Kingsqeuak: I just typed dmesg and I don't understand all the output. What do I need to look at?
[05:53] <leofender> example: counter strike linux version
[05:53] <leofender> xfrisk ? what is this ?
[05:53] <h3htimo> alright, please can anyone help, what is xorg's default video driver, and what should i get after installing fglrx... and what should i do if i dont get that???
[05:53] <Some_Dude> I feel dirty having to use a Windows IRC client
[05:54] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir try   dmesg | less    then do  /CDROM   it will go to the line where it sees it
[05:54] <epp> h3htimo, isnt it VESA?
[05:54] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir should say shortly after setting up  scd or something like hdc for the device
[05:54] <h3htimo> epp, it says mesa whenever i do a fglrxinfo
[05:54] <leofender> please i need help because i m new in linux
[05:54] <h3htimo> i thought it was supposed to say ati
[05:54] <epp> yeah. its mesa. So you have ati?
[05:54] <Keyseir> kingsqueak: Pattern not found for /CDROM
[05:55] <Some_Dude> is there a way to run apt-get upgrade and ignore a package that refuses to be deleted?
[05:55] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir yeah sorry, just do  /CD
[05:55] <Keyseir> kingsqueak; k
[05:55] <epp> h3htimo, hold on
[05:55] <Kingsqueak> if that doesn't put you there, just type / again for the next entry of CD
[05:55] <h3htimo> epp, ok
[05:55] <Some_Dude> anybody...?
[05:55] <Milchmann> leofender, do you by any chance speak german?
[05:55] <Keyseir> kingsqueak: 79575.652000]  hdc: Compaq CRD-8484B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[05:55] <Keyseir> [17179576.436000]  hdd: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[05:56] <Kingsqueak> Some_Dude you could try a -f
[05:56] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir you have two drives it seems
[05:56] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: COrrecto. I believe only one was supposed to be DVD tho
[05:56] <leofender> oh no. :( i m speak spanish and some english
[05:56] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir which one do you want to work?
[05:56] <Kingsqueak> the DVD burner seems to be hdd
[05:56] <Some_Dude> Kingsqueak, I tried that ... the computer wants to remove a package called unifont and unifont returns an error when the thing tries to remove it
[05:56] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: THe dvd one. However, I believe everything is working. I was just looking for the DVD burning speed.
[05:56] <Keyseir> kingsqueak: [17179576.564000]   hdb1 hdb2 <<6>hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[05:57] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: How do I find the burning speed for the DVD-ROM?
[05:57] <Kingsqueak> there you go 40X likely for CD probably 8x or so for DVD
[05:58] <Keyseir> I'm trying to see if I should just buy 8x DVDs or if I could benefit from 16x. Is there a way to check this speed locally, or should I just google the model number?
[05:58] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir I'm googling it now
[05:58] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: Well thanks then mang
[05:58] <sdistefano> !w32codecs
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir here you go  http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h550.htm
[05:59] <leofender> whats "xfrisk" ??
[05:59] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir looks like 8x
[05:59] <Kingsqueak> leofender it's networked risk
[05:59] <epp> h3htimo, did you follow the guide?
[05:59] <Kingsqueak> leofender you have to start up the server on at least one box then people can connect to play risk
[05:59] <h3htimo> epp, yeah
[06:00] <ubuntu_newb> http://act.homelinux.com
[06:00] <Some_Dude> leofender:  http://tuxick.net/xfrisk
[06:00] <h3htimo> epp, i think i did it exactly, i think i used copy and paste for everything
[06:00] <leofender> aaah
[06:00] <ubuntu_newb> could someone please check that for me again?
[06:00] <Kingsqueak> leofender it's pretty fun actually, just old school
[06:00] <Milchmann> leofender, i got a nice webpage for linux gaming, but its german. but they do have some link for english pages, i just havent checked them yet
[06:00] <leofender> thanks i will in there
[06:00] <Arrick> Seveas, you here tonight?
[06:00] <epp> h3htimo, was it this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver?
[06:00] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: THanks mang
[06:01] <Gex> ubuntu_newb: it works. i see a dir tree
[06:01] <h3htimo> epp, yup
[06:01] <epp> hmmm
[06:01] <h3htimo> when i do fglrxinfo i get mesa
[06:01] <epp> h3htimo, did you restart?
[06:01] <h3htimo> yup
[06:01] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir looks like you have a good drive, also with cdrecord you may need to do   dev=/dev/hdd
[06:01] <stylus> my websites and such are resolving really slowly now that i'm over on ubuntu. why is this and how could i fix it?
[06:01] <epp> try this again
[06:01] <h3htimo> epp, try the regular way??
[06:01] <epp> h3htimo, sudo depmod -a
[06:01] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir or in the kernel boot like    hdd=ide-scsi   to make it come up as an ide scsi device
[06:02] <noxxle> im trying to share a folder with a windows computer on my network. However when i try to access the folder on my linux computer it asks for a username /pass.
[06:02] <h3htimo> epp, alright
[06:02] <noxxle> should i be using samba?
[06:02] <epp> h3htimo,  then sudo aticonfig --initial
[06:02] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir if it works with   dev=/dev/hdd   for cdrecord, don't bother with the kernel option
[06:02] <epp> h3htimo,  then sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[06:02] <Milchmann> noxxle, yes. i do the same here with samba
[06:02] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: Where do I go to do this?
[06:02] <Milchmann> noxxle, and i use the windows username & password to access the windows share
[06:03] <noxxle> yea but what is the user name and pass?
[06:03] <noxxle> i tried everything
[06:03] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir the ide-scsi thing?  You put that in the kernel boot line in the GRUB setup, try using  dev=/dev/hdd first though
[06:03] <Milchmann> if the share is on the windows computer then you need the windows username & password
[06:03] <alpha255> smbpasswd ?
[06:04] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: I was referring to the dev=/dev/hdd thing
[06:04] <noxxle> no the share is on my linux pc
[06:04] <noxxle> i dont have a samba pass
[06:04] <noxxle> that i know of
[06:04] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: Where do I put that "dev=/dev/hdd"
[06:04] <Milchmann> ah ok, i've done it the other way
[06:04] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: Oh, cdrecord.
[06:04] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir that's for commandline cdrecord
[06:04] <Gex> noxxle: have you tried your linux username and pass?
[06:04] <alpha255> sudo smbpasswd -a  i think
[06:04] <h3htimo> epp, done
[06:04] <noxxle> gex that was the first thing i tried
[06:04] <mardi_soir> hello i have a problem http://pastebin.ca/233862
[06:04] <noxxle> no luck
[06:04] <noxxle> just re asks me
[06:05] <leofender> how can i know more about linux...?
[06:05] <mardi_soir> but no watchdog is selected
[06:05] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir    cdrecord -vvv dev=/dev/hdd driveropts=burnfree foo.iso
[06:05] <epp> h3htimo, now run sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for "ati" then replace it with "fglrx"
[06:05] <alpha255> noxxle, samba.org has terptstra's book there for you to read
[06:05] <alpha255> noxxle, it is really really good
[06:05] <noxxle> what!?!?! WHY doesnt it just let me connect
[06:05] <noxxle> it shouldnt be this hard
[06:05] <Milchmann> leofender go to http://www.ubuntu.com and read ;)
[06:06] <alpha255> noxxle, linux passwords and smb passwords are different
[06:06] <noxxle> i can see the folder on my windows computer. thi sis ridiculus
[06:06] <leofender> hahaha
[06:06] <leofender> thanks
[06:06] <noxxle> how do i set an smb pass
[06:06] <leofender> im argentino ;) :P
[06:06] <leofender> lol
[06:06] <leofender> thanks
[06:06] <alpha255> sudo smbpasswd -a  i think
[06:06] <leofender> i will read
[06:06] <Keyseir> Kingsqueak: So I use that format whenever I burn something, where "foo.iso" is the directory I'm burning?
[06:06] <noxxle> isnt there a gui
[06:06] <h3htimo> epp, there is no just "ati"
[06:06] <alpha255> noxxle, the smb.conf file is where quite a bit of the configuration is done
[06:07] <AlanHaggai> cynical : Hi :). Is there any software development IDE in Ubuntu. I need to make some applications.
[06:07] <alpha255> noxxle, also check out swat ... it's a web based interface for configuring smb
[06:07] <epp> k hold on, i dont have my laptop that has ati or this would be easier
[06:07] <noxxle> ok how do i set an smb user?
[06:07] <h3htimo> epp, alright
[06:07] <alpha255> noxxle, usullay runs on localhost
[06:07] <alpha255> sudo smbpasswd -a  i think
[06:07] <alpha255> noxxle, sudo smbpasswd -a  i think
[06:08] <Natural_High> hey, anyone know how to disable the autologout?
[06:08] <AlanHaggai> Hi friends. Is there any software development IDE in Ubuntu. I need to make some applications.
[06:08] <Natural_High> Alan, check the synaptic package manager for them
[06:08] <Natural_High> there are plenty
[06:08] <alpha255> noxxle, -a     This option specifies that  the  username  following  should  be added  to  the local smbpasswd file
[06:08] <epp> h3htimo, look for 'Section "Device"'
[06:08] <alpha255> noxxle, man smbpasswd
[06:08] <AlanHaggai> Natural_High : What name should I search for?
[06:09] <Natural_High> what language do you want to program in?
[06:09] <Natural_High> and you can search the description of the IDE for it anyway
[06:09] <h3htimo> epp, okay i found it
[06:09] <AlanHaggai> Natural_High : Which all languages are available?
[06:09] <ubuntu_newb> The only open port on my computer is 80, is that all that should be open for Apache, php, and mysql to work properly with a site?
[06:09] <mardi_soir> no idea ?
[06:09] <alpha255> blankin python on the blanking plane! that's the program language ;)
[06:09] <epp> h3htimo,  what does it list under driver?
[06:10] <Arrick> anybody here want to tackle a pastebot project tonight?
[06:10] <Natural_High> Alan: ... can you program in a language?
[06:10] <AlanHaggai> Natural_High : yes
[06:10] <h3htimo> epp, fglrx
[06:10] <AlanHaggai> Natural_High : I used to do in VB
[06:10] <epp> h3h, k hold on
[06:11] <epp> h3h. add this to the end Section "Extensions"
[06:11] <epp>         Option  "Composite" "0"
[06:11] <epp> EndSection
[06:12] <epp> h3htimo, add this to the end
[06:12] <epp> Section "Extensions"
[06:12] <epp>         Option  "Composite" "0"
[06:12] <epp> EndSection
[06:12] <luckyone> hello, I am trying to play an iso of a dvd I made using vlc and it is seg faulting
[06:12] <h3htimo> epp, did that
[06:12] <luckyone> can anyone help?
[06:12] <epp> h3htimo, now restart and check it again
[06:13] <h3htimo> epp, alright brb
[06:13] <Natural_High> Can anyone tell me how to disable the autologout? which file to edit? anything?
[06:14] <Some_Dude> okay, so... I've determined that unifont is merely a font and what is happening is that dpkg needs to remove this font before it does anything else and it invokes update-fonts-dir in a way that makes update-fonts-dir return an error
[06:14] <Some_Dude> what should I do?
[06:14] <bun-bun> didn't 6.06 install postfix by default?
[06:15] <Aji-Dahaka> blist online
[06:15] <Aji-Dahaka> oops, sorry
[06:16] <Natural_High> still need help on that autologout...
[06:16] <h3htimo> epp, did it, same results
[06:16] <epp> h3htimo, what card do you have?
[06:17] <h3htimo> epp, an ati radeon x1600
[06:17] <h3htimo> epp, the driver worked perfectly in dapper
[06:18] <epp> h3htimo, nothing comes to mind as a fix. you might want to report a bug
[06:18] <kronoman> good night
[06:19] <h3htimo> epp, well, like my screen looks like it did before.. i just cant play games that require open gl
[06:20] <epp> h3htimo, yeah. Try method two of installing the drivers.
[06:20] <epp> its more complex but it has the newer ones.
[06:20] <h3htimo> i did
[06:21] <h3htimo> same result
[06:21] <h3htimo> im just gonna deal with it... i can use windows for games
[06:21] <epp> h3htimo, but i gtg, school tomorrow. peace
[06:21] <h3htimo> later
[06:21] <epp> yeah, pace
[06:21] <kronoman> simple question : how I find broken symlinks ?
[06:21] <lostboyz> hello when i try to start xorg it crashes and says ati driver not able to load
[06:21] <lostboyz> i just upgraded to edgy
[06:21] <regeya> so, if I understand right, up until this week edgy was equivalent to debian unstable; now it's equivalent to debian testing.  up until this week tho there wasn't an equivalent to testing, just stable and unstable.  aye?
[06:21] <CppIsWeird> i've been doing some reading about a remote desktoping solution for linux. And i've gathered that there is some way to get X11 to output to a remote location the instance for a user. Kinda like RDP for windows.
[06:22] <MrKeuner> hi, which package do I need for reading/writing xls files in Gnumeric?
[06:22] <CppIsWeird> can anyone tell me more about this to point me in the right direction?
[06:22] <kronoman> CppIsWeird: yes, you are right, you can connect remotely to X11
[06:22] <CppIsWeird> im a heavy windows user and im a bit lost
[06:23] <regeya> lostboys: welcome to ubuntu unstable!
[06:23] <kronoman> CppIsWeird: maybe this will help, http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2002/article222.shtml
[06:24] <kronoman> is a bit dated
[06:24] <CppIsWeird> i toyed with VNC a bit, but we have a strong need for mutiple instances of users logged into the box at the same time.
[06:24] <CppIsWeird> is that achieveable with this X11 approach?
[06:25] <lostboyz> hello when i start xserver it says ati not able to load module mismatch what does that mean
[06:25] <kronoman> CppIsWeird: check the menu System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop.
[06:25] <kronoman> CppIsWeird: yes, you should be able to login many users to the same machine
[06:25] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird basically you run Cygwin on windows as the X server, then run the X session or app on the remote linux box and display it back to the X server on the Win box
[06:25] <kronoman> CppIsWeird: search for ubuntu and vnc in google to find more
[06:26] <kronoman> now, to my question, anybody knows a way to find broken symlinks in a directory tree using the console ?
[06:26] <whyameye> CppIsWeird: don't know if this is exactly what you want...but I ssh -X into linux machines all the time, logging into my acct. then running X apps.
[06:26] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird or use Hummingbird Xceed on the Win boxes, but that has licensing costs
[06:27] <gameover> hi...
[06:27] <gameover> i want to install openmosix on ubuntu cluster
[06:27] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird http://www.hummingbird.com/products/nc/exceed/
[06:27] <gameover> someone know how?
[06:28] <CppIsWeird> "Network speed is of course an issue here but a normal 10Mbit/s LAN connection is more than enough." - How about over the internet access?
[06:28] <gameover> Some guide to install openmosix?
[06:29] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird over the internet, you would really only want to run one app at a time, not a full desktop session
[06:29] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird using X forwarding via ssh to the remote is better, you still need a local X server running/installed though on the Win client
[06:29] <whyameye> CppIsWeird: I think you will get better performance remotely logging in then running your X apps, in comparison to vnc.
[06:29] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird what is the specific application need, maybe I can help with better suggestions
[06:30] <duncanm> another else using compiz (not beryl) on edgy?
[06:30] <whyameye> CppIsWeird: cygwin/x is a nice x server for Windows and you can run your linux apps from a remote machine in X this way.
[06:31] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird basically, what are they actually doing once logged in?
[06:31] <duncanm> i keep on seeing this in my .xsession-errors
[06:31] <duncanm> shift: 96: can't shift that many
[06:32] <MrKeuner> duncanm: is it possible without any outside repositories?
[06:32] <duncanm> http://lunapark6.com/?p=2501
[06:32] <duncanm> MrKeuner: that's the site where i got the instructions
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder> whats the command to remove non-empty directories? rmdir doesn't seem to be able to handle non-empty directories...
[06:33] <duncanm> CorpseFeeder: rm -rf
[06:33] <GreenEggsAndSpam> CorpseFeeder, rm -rf
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[06:34] <MrKeuner> duncanm: yes they are using outside repositories
[06:34] <duncanm> MrKeuner: uh huh
[06:34] <kronoman> any way of opening CorelDraw files with some Ubuntu app ??
[06:34] <amir> hey everyone
[06:35] <amir> Is there anyway to reset ubuntu to a clean install?
[06:35] <CppIsWeird> sorry, i have been reading the article. The specific application i need: i am used to RDPing our windows server, and developing the web applications, configuring softwaer, and administering things in general. We have made a note to use cross platform mediums like apache, php, mysql, etc. So the administration should be the same, just not sure on how to access the box remotely.
[06:35] <Kingsqueak> amir ?  Just re-install?
[06:35] <amir> using the CD?
[06:36] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird ohhh, have you tried 'rdesktop' ?
[06:36] <CppIsWeird> we are trying to adapt to linux for cost, and efficency. Windows is bloated.
[06:36] <amir> Kingsqueak, no way to do it just through the desktop?
[06:36] <CppIsWeird> rdesktop as i understood it was a CLIENT for a windows server
[06:36] <Kingsqueak> amir not really besides deleting what you've installed manually
[06:36] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird o.k. so you want an alternative to Win
[06:36] <amir> ugh, alright then
[06:36] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird you realize that most linux tasks don't need GUI right?
[06:37] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird meaning all you need is ssh access to a system
[06:37] <amir> Well thanks anyways Kingsqueak
[06:37] <CppIsWeird> well. i dont wanna sound like im trying to make linux windows, but beings as this swtich is now putting us behind, yes. I just want "My Desktop" from home.
[06:37] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird if you had to fire up a GUI app, run an X server on the client end, and use ssh X forwarding
[06:37] <blazemonger> is there a prog for linx that automatically adjusts your monitor's display geometry
[06:37] <Natural_High> hey, can anyone help me with disabling the autologout?
[06:37] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird a full desktop in linux is just unnecessary is all
[06:38] <CppIsWeird> ok.
[06:38] <kronoman> a question: were all the screensaver options went in 6.06 ? my old ubuntu had more options for the screensaver...
[06:38] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird so cygwin/x is the free way to a Win X server
[06:38] <CppIsWeird> ok, yes, i have installed cygwin.
[06:38] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird then enable X forwarding in sshd_config on the server end and when you ssh -X to that server, you can run any GUI app and it will display back if your ports are open
[06:39] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird use the cygwin ssh too, it will likely handle the forwarding better
[06:39] <CppIsWeird> ok, one sec.
[06:39] <Kingsqueak> CppIsWeird quick test is fire up cygwin x , ssh -X to the server, and run 'xterm'
[06:40] <Kingsqueak> cygwin/x needs to be tweaked though as it isn't open for connections on the network by default
[06:40] <Kingsqueak> it only listens on loopback
[06:40] <Kingsqueak> I forget where to fix that, I almost never use Windows
[06:41] <Kingsqueak> actually, don't mind me, ssh will tunnel back and take care of that
[06:41] <leofender> hiii
[06:41] <Kingsqueak> you only need to do that for plain X connections
[06:41] <bun-bun> does anyone get noticeable delays resolving dns queries?
[06:41] <leofender> whats bash and perl ??
[06:41] <leofender> im new in linux
[06:41] <Kingsqueak> leofender bash is a shell, your commandline
[06:41] <leofender> okey
[06:41] <Kingsqueak> leofender perl is a programming language, scripting/interpreted sort
[06:41] <leofender> can i create a script with bash ?
[06:42] <Kingsqueak> you can make scripts with both of them
[06:42] <leofender> okey
[06:42] <Kingsqueak> simple scripts with bash, crazy scripts and full applications with perl
[06:42] <siccness> theres a million guides on the net for bash scripting
[06:42] <Kingsqueak> the Bash-HOWTO on tldp.org is great
[06:42] <leofender> i will go to read the linux bible as know more
[06:43] <leofender> yeahh! perl so is the best scripts creator
[06:43] <leofender> :P
[06:43] <leofender> jajaja
[06:43] <Kingsqueak> leofender http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[06:43] <leofender> thanks Kingdqueak
[06:43] <leofender> Kings/
[06:44] <Kingsqueak> it's not just for beginners that doc either ;-)
[06:44] <CppIsWeird> hmm, i dont have access to the server right now. VNC was turned off.
[06:44] <leofender> any day i will be a drives creator and a expert on linux.
[06:44] <leofender> i wish that
[06:44] <leofender> haha
[06:45] <gustavol1> can someone help me with compiz ?
[06:45] <leofender> okey!
[06:45] <gustavol1> I cant start compiz
[06:45] <leofender> bye bye!!
[06:45] <leofender> thanks for all!
[06:45] <neo2ubuntu> hello
[06:45] <neo2ubuntu> I need help plz
[06:45] <gustavol1> I have followed the ubuntu forum howto
[06:45] <digivore> anyone ever use Bastille?
[06:46] <neo2ubuntu> can someone help me install Ubuntu to my hda
[06:46] <gustavol1> but it doesnt work
[06:46] <Chippy> hey, how do I add fonts to ubuntu?
[06:46] <tritium> !fonts
[06:46] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:46] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:46] <alpha255> neo2ubuntu, do you have a cd?
[06:46] <Chippy> tritium: thanks :)
[06:46] <knapper> Hey guys, I just recently upgraded to edgy and am having some (a lot) of trouble. For one, video playback is very ugly. The avi I am playing played fine before I upgraded and now it doesn't play in any media player but mplayer and gxine and looks terrible. Any ideas?
[06:47] <tritium> Chippy: :)
[06:47] <neo2ubuntu> my cd is currputted I think...i frezzes up on step 6 copying files at 49%...is there a work around that can fix this?
[06:47] <Ademan> i tried to install the k3d package and i'm pretty sure it broke apt, not beyond repair, i just hafta work some magic
[06:47] <Ademan> but i wanna know what
[06:47] <Ademan> the post-installation script failed for k3d, and when i try and uninstall k3d it keeps wanting to run the post-installation script BEFORE it runs the uninstall script
[06:47] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan: Do you know how I can solve me problem?
[06:48] <neo2ubuntu> oops
[06:48] <amir> are there any differences in operating kubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu?
[06:48] <amir> or do they function the same
[06:48] <cudaman73> amir: only the DE
[06:48] <neo2ubuntu> where can I go to get one on one help for Ubuntu installation?
[06:48] <amir> DE?
[06:48] <Ademan> amir: they function internally the same, but they have different graphical frontends (basically) so yes you woudl in a sense need to learn each, but they're all very similar
[06:48] <neo2ubuntu> can anyone read this text?
[06:48] <Ademan> amir: desktop environment
[06:48] <amir> oh ok
[06:49] <neo2ubuntu> Is this the channel for help?
[06:49] <amir> ademan, which one is the easiest to learn for newbies to linux? or does it not really matter?
[06:49] <Ademan> amir: a lot of people like KDE because its very windows-like
[06:49] <cudaman73> Kubuntu is probably the most windows like
[06:49] <amir> hmmmm
[06:49] <Ademan> and Kubuntu uses KDE
[06:49] <moshe> hello
[06:49] <Ademan> so yeah, kubuntu is my bet
[06:49] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan: Can you help me next?
[06:50] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: sure, i just got home whats the problem?
[06:50] <amir> Ademan, so if I really need to start a grasp on linux, do you recommend starting with kubuntu?
[06:50] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan: My prob is i have a bad cd of Ubutu..im in it now
[06:50] <moshe> I'm running Edgy, and after enabling the nvidia proprietary driver, the fonts in Firefox went weird, like the menu bar and dialog fonts being much larger than before.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:50] <neo2ubuntu> Is there a way to install over the network 2 my pc
[06:51] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: no way to burn a new cd?
[06:51] <neo2ubuntu> I want to install Ubuntu on this hda but the program fails to complete
[06:51] <alpha255> neo2ubuntu, did you use a torrent file to download?
[06:51] <Ademan> moshe: i dunno about firefox, but gdm (the login screen) for me after i install the NVIDIA drivers has bigger fonts
[06:51] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan: No working CD burnner here
[06:51] <Ademan> i honestly have never cared enough to mess with it though
[06:51] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: oh, thats a problem, how'd you get your first cd though?
[06:52] <amir> Ademan, are there just as many resources available for ubuntu as there are for kubuntu?
[06:52] <neo2ubuntu> I burned it in windows a while back but my winbloz is junk now
[06:52] <moshe> Ademan, it's strange that you said that, because all my other fonts were reset to smaller sizes.
[06:52] <amir> I mean in terms of help
[06:52] <neo2ubuntu> Im in the Ubuntu live CD part now
[06:52] <alpha255> neo2ubuntu, how about a friend's machine?
[06:53] <neo2ubuntu> not htis late
[06:53] <neo2ubuntu> its 1am here
[06:53] <Ediehow> how do i see font paths in ubuntu?
[06:53] <neo2ubuntu> i have been working on this 4 awhile
[06:53] <neo2ubuntu> is there a work around?
[06:54] <Ademan> amir: there's a #kubuntu channel, which honestly i think can be a lot more helpful than #ubuntu at times
[06:54] <ZirJoker> hi everybody
[06:54] <neo2ubuntu> like streaming the install from a Ubuntu server to install on my hda
[06:54] <neo2ubuntu> or can i get a new installer program to do it from the web?
[06:54] <ZirJoker> do you ppl know any autocad similar program?? i downloaded qcad but it doesnt open my dwg files x-x
[06:54] <amir> alright thank you Ademan
[06:54] <Ademan> amir: no problem :-) hope that helps
[06:55] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan:  I hear that it can be done
[06:55] <Ademan> personally i prefer ubuntu (which uses GNOME rather than KDE) but for total newbies i think KDE is a bette choice just because it will be slightly more familiar
[06:55] <neo2ubuntu> like through Knoppix
[06:55] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: i think they were just saying you could use the liveCD to download a new ISO to your hard drive and then burn it to a new liveCD
[06:55] <Ademan> but then again i don't know for sure, i've never heard of that
[06:55] <ZirJoker> im a newbie and i prefer gnome XD
[06:56] <neo2ubuntu> ok Ademan
[06:56] <Ademan> ZirJoker: i started out with GNOME myself, worked out fine, but i think it probably took me a bit longer
[06:56] <neo2ubuntu> So i can not have it install from another site
[06:56] <ZirJoker> :o
[06:56] <ZirJoker> Ademan do you know any program similar to autocad? XD
[06:56] <legon> gnome is kind of slow I think... is it my graphic card drivers, or is it just slow forever?
[06:56] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: do you have a running linux box at hand?
[06:56] <neo2ubuntu> i can make one
[06:57] <duncanm> anyone using compiz on edgy?
[06:57] <neo2ubuntu> I have distros of slackware 10.1, Zenwalk, gentoo, and some others...plus BackTracks, STD knoppix & other live cds
[06:57] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: you could build your harddisk into the other linux machine and debootstrap there
[06:58] <watson540> i see all these people saying they get fast xgl'ish stuff with just p3's man, am i missing something here? should i be running aiglx for my ati card instead of xgl?
[06:58] <neo2ubuntu> ChaosFan: Can I install BackTracks to my hda...then get Ubuntu over the net by this debootstrap
[06:58] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: you should install it somewhere else
[06:58] <Ademan> ZirJoker: i'd only tried autocad
[06:58] <neo2ubuntu> Im in Ubuntu now..but on the cd live part
[06:59] <Ademan> sorry, qcad
[06:59] <ZirJoker> autocad 2000 with wine?
[06:59] <Ademan> that might work, i dunno hold on
[06:59] <ZirJoker> my brother is an architect and he needs autocad 2006...
[06:59] <neo2ubuntu> can i just build some partitions ...mk some dir.. and then debootstrap it from this enviroment
[06:59] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: or use knoppix or something, then partition, format and mount your hda, debootstrap there and install a kernel and grub/lilo
[06:59] <ZirJoker> qcad doesnt supports dwg files x-x
[06:59] <iCod> I get ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1355:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card when I try to call in skype
[07:00] <neo2ubuntu> ChaosFan: Can I do it from this evo
[07:00] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: there are severeal tutorials out there, look for creation of a chroot
[07:00] <neo2ubuntu> ok
[07:00] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: if the livecd has the debootstrap-command
[07:01] <Ademan> ZirJoker: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=86 here's reports of how well (or not) autocad's different versions have worked on wine
[07:01] <neo2ubuntu> ChaosFan: I have the burned cd
[07:01] <Ademan> ZirJoker: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6035   EEEWWW, last version of wine 0.9.23 was crap, we're on 0.9.24
[07:01] <Ademan> may be out of luck on wine...
[07:01] <ChaosFan> neo2ubuntu: just try to follow some chroot-tutorial, and do not forget to install a kernel and a boot loader afterwards
[07:02] <starignus> i have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r, does it close the cd,-r? that is why the cd is unmounted
[07:02] <ChaosFan> and now i'm off, got to write a test in some minutes...
[07:02] <neo2ubuntu> ok im loking in to it
[07:02] <ZirJoker> hee hee
[07:02] <Alphax> I went and got myself an alternate install iso using jigdo; is there a jigdo template available for the desktop livecd?
[07:02] <ZirJoker> i havent used wine yet
[07:02] <ZirJoker> i installed linux 2 weeks ago
[07:02] <DigitalNinja> How do I flash a BIOS when I'm running Ubuntu Linux and the motherboard people want me to download a .exe file?
[07:02] <abattoir> hi, does ubuntu come with an IRC client installed on a default installation?
[07:03] <morgue> guys I'm following this howto (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225&highlight=logitech+quickcam) and it says I have to get the "kernel-headers 2.6.10 for i386 from synaptic" but those are not there... what should i do???
[07:03] <DigitalNinja> abattori: No
[07:03] <Ademan> wine is great, i'm currently playing day of defeat SOURCE at full speeds on my computer, quite impressive if you ask me, but its by no means perfect...yet...
[07:03] <neo2ubuntu> is there a small version of Ubuntu i could download to a jumpdrive to install to my hda
 i have a problem tu burn cd-R i use gonome baker but  when i want to import a new sesion it dismount the cd-r, does it close the cd,-r? that is why the cd is unmounted
[07:04] <morgue> anyone knows how to install the logitech messenger webcam?
[07:05] <abattoir> DigitalNinja: ok, thanks
[07:05] <Ademan> a new session? like loging out and loging back in? or a gnome baker session? (sorry i'm unfamiliar with gnomebaker, sometime way back when someone told me to use graveman, and it works great for me)
[07:05] <neo2ubuntu> What will happen if i download Ubuntu agian to this session of Ubuntu live to the desktop?...Will it be able to fit?...and if so i think i can try to use my cd burnner if it will work this time>
[07:05] <Lynoure> neo2ubuntu: no, but there are other versions of linux for that, e.g. Knoppix
[07:05] <kronoman> neo2ubuntu: try fluxbuntu, or xubuntu, or damn small linux
[07:05] <neo2ubuntu> Lynoure: I have different distros of Knoppix
[07:05] <Lynoure> neo2ubuntu: good for you.
[07:06] <DigitalNinja> abattoir: you can install xchat
[07:06] <kronoman> neo2ubuntu: I think that damn small linux can be booted from USB or a file in a vfat filesystem, check it at his webage
[07:06] <fgxn> Does ubuntu have a tool like Debian's apt-file?
[07:06] <neo2ubuntu> kronoman: Are any of them able to get me up to date on Ubuntu from that linux distro?
[07:07] <kronoman> I don't know
[07:07] <neo2ubuntu> like damn small linux on my jumpdrive
[07:07] <neo2ubuntu> ok
[07:07] <Lynoure> fgxn: yes, it exists, not installed by default
 i  meat  whe i burn a cd but a cd-r with few information without closing the sesion and i want to use my cd-r qith the space that is empty
[07:07] <neo2ubuntu> well i just want to take the time to say that i think Ubuntu is great
[07:08] <fgxn> Lynoure: apt-get install apt-file tells me there's no such package
[07:08] <neo2ubuntu> I tried to get gentoo but i couldn't get to xwindos with startx
[07:08] <wastrel> ubunto
[07:08] <Ademan> starignus: i think it finalizes the disk whenever you burn (it writes zeroes to the rest of the cd)
[07:08] <alpha255> nite all
[07:08] <alpha255> :)
[07:08] <cisbrane> hey i just installed edgy (and ubuntu for first time) on my laptop. my sound kinda works. the built in speakers work fine no problem there. however when i plug in external speakers, the sound is not routed to the speakers... any ideas? i think the alsa driver is hd nvidia or something like that.. in winxp it's listed as connextant hd audio
[07:08] <iCod> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1355:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[07:08] <iCod> Anyone?
[07:08] <alpha255> nice chattin
[07:08] <Lynoure> fgxn: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled? It's in one of those, I think
[07:08] <iCod> nite
[07:08] <Lynoure> !apt-file
[07:08] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[07:08] <neo2ubuntu> my attempes to install Ubuntu on my local HD have failed so far...It keeps locking up on step 6...copying files at 49%
[07:09] <Lynoure> fgxn: in Universe, it seems
[07:09] <Alphax> !jigdo
[07:09] <fgxn> Lynoure: Ah, I don't have universe or multiverse, no. I was under the impression that those were evil packages not to be used. :)
[07:09] <ubotu> jigdo: GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 440 kB
[07:09] <neo2ubuntu> I think its my disk of Ubuntu that is the problem
[07:09] <joeshmo> ello all!
[07:09] <Lynoure> fgxn: not completely supported, but in my opinion far from evil
[07:10] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: well if i remmeber right the old text mode installers seemed to hang around 48% but they didnt, how long did you give it at 49%?
[07:10] <neo2ubuntu> but im still able to get on Ubuntu from just the CD
[07:10] <amir> how can I find out if ubuntu has recognized my CD burner?
[07:10] <fgxn> Lynoure: They don't get security upgrades, neg?
[07:10] <Lynoure> fgxn: the lines for them even exists in the sources list, just commented out, if I remember
[07:10] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan: I took a nap and woke back up hours l8r to it still at 49%
[07:11] <neo2ubuntu> The CD just stopped spinning
[07:11] <fgxn> "universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security team" quoth sources.list
[07:11] <Lynoure> fgxn: then you just need to watch the security announcements a bit youself
[07:11] <joeshmo> uh oh
[07:11] <joeshmo> new security updates?
[07:11] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: try doing a md5sum of the cd and comparing it with what they have on ubuntu.com
[07:11] <neo2ubuntu> I was hoping there was a text base installer that might work around the GUI installer
[07:12] <starignus>  <Ademan>so it do it for default in linux ubuntu
[07:12] <neo2ubuntu> Ademan: If my cd is bad...Can I get the good files i need from the web?
[07:12] <fgxn> Lynoure: I wouldn't even know where to start looking for security announcements that weren't issued by the Ubuntu team.
[07:12] <Alphax> neo2ubuntu, the alternate installer does that
[07:12] <neo2ubuntu> I just need the core kernal on my HD...then i can update
[07:12] <Lynoure> fgxn: But I can see if you do not want to do that. I assume you are also not installing any binary-only things or any proprietery codex, then?
[07:12] <Ademan> neo2ubuntu: short of downloading the ISO from ubuntu.com again (use bittorrent) and then burning it to a new liveCD no there's no way i know of
[07:13] <iCod> does anyone have problems with modprobe?
[07:13] <fgxn> Lynoure: Nope...I try to stay pretty vanilla.
[07:13] <fgxn> Ah, good. nvi is in universe as well.
[07:13] <neo2ubuntu> was that the chroot
[07:13] <Ruggero> I installed Edgy Eft from Dapper and my SD Card is not recognized as a disk  anymore from ubuntu, it doesn't even show in /proc/partitions, any clue how to reactivate it? the SD slot is embedded in my HP laptop. Have
[07:13] <amir> Ademan, is there a quick way to switch to kubuntu from within ubuntu?
[07:13] <Alphax> grrr. why is there no .jigdo for teh desktop cd?
[07:14] <Ayabara_> I upgraded from dapper to edgy using apt, and my computer freezes during startup. can anyone help me debug/fix this?
[07:15] <Lynoure> fgxn: for a tool of Debian origin, I'd just look at debian security announcements, but it's not a complicated tool, I'd say your risk of getting a remote exploit that uses apt-file is very slim
[07:15] <neo2ubuntu> so what was the other method of installing to my hd with out using the version on the Ubuntu GUI...can I *get it from the web to install?
[07:15] <VigoFuse> How many gigs sould I allocate for an ubuntu install to HDD? And is the DSKPRT or whatever inside the Desktop CD?
[07:15] <neo2ubuntu> Can I get Debian and change that into Ubuntu?
[07:16] <fgxn> Lynoure: My fear was more based on ignorance of when apt might choose a particular package out of universe instead of main, so I'd end up installing the unsupported, universe-version of some critical app.
[07:16] <fgxn> Lynoure: Like, say, apache2
[07:17] <Rizla420> hey guys(gals) can someone please help me with a really simple request
[07:17] <neo2ubuntu> well ty all for your help
[07:17] <Lynoure> fgxn: you can just enable then now, do apt-get update, apt-get install the packages you need, put the sources.list back how it was and do apt-get update again
[07:17] <neo2ubuntu> im not sure what really to do
[07:17] <Rizla420> im still trying to get my hands around the way linux operates and installs programs.  A little while back i installed bluefish to do some of my php scripting
[07:17] <neo2ubuntu> but im sure ill make it happen
[07:17] <Rizla420> but i dont know where its installed
[07:17] <picasso> no way.. in ubuntu 6.10, I can no longer move a window to a different workspace by dragging it while pressing my key combination to switch workspace
[07:17] <fgxn> Lynoure: That won't cause tools like aptitude to see it as a dead package and remove it?
[07:18] <Landon> Hey all, I'm having problems playing .avi files and this is after I installed my win32codecs, and on top of that, my flash player is all of a sudden messing up. When I try to go to sites like YouTube or Google video, it'll just play one second of the clip without sound, upload the rest, and just not do anything, should I uninstall firefox and re-install it? I don't know what else to do.
[07:18] <Rizla420> i see it in my add/remove application list
[07:18] <Ademan> amir: yes, once you install ubuntu or kubuntu you can install the ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop and at the login screen you can choose to start in either KDE or GNOME
[07:18] <neo2ubuntu> is there a different installer i could get from the add/remove part?
[07:18] <Rizla420> where is the executable located or a shortcut ?
[07:18] <JohnAbbe> I also have hopeful a simple question
[07:18] <JohnAbbe> Installing Edgy on an old iMac and get a black screen partway through booting up. This http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1702331 thread recommended editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf which i did, now how do i restart gdm?
[07:19] <fgxn> Rizla420: Probably something along the lines of /usr/bin/bluefish
[07:19] <grndslm> how does xubuntu run with 32mb of ram??
[07:19] <grndslm> anybody know?
[07:19] <neo2ubuntu> ok im off to try to do this
[07:19] <Lynoure> fgxn: I'm a kubuntu user myself, and use adept and apt-get, so I am not 100% sure, but if it did, there was no possibility of using aptitude with stable+unstable mix of Debian and I'd be shocked to hear that to be the case
[07:19] <morgue> My webcam was working, then I upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and is not working now, what should I do?
[07:19] <Ademan> grndslm: xfce (what xubuntu uses) is much smaller and lighter than GNOME
[07:19] <Alphax> JohnAbbe, change consoles and kill gdm then restart gdm?
[07:19] <JohnAbbe> I tried that
[07:19] <Rizla420> nah no luck, doesnt exist
[07:20] <JohnAbbe> processes died
[07:20] <kronoman> in ubuntu, do i need to fine tune my hard disk? or dma tranfers are enabled by default ?? (talking about hdparm)
[07:20] <JohnAbbe> but "gdm" still does nothing
[07:20] <grndslm> Ademan, i realize...but 32 is damn small....maybe even too small for xfce
[07:20] <Lynoure> fgxn: no harm in trying
[07:20] <morgue> can someone give me a hand?
[07:20] <fgxn> Lynoure: All right. I'll give it a poke. Thanks for the pointers.
[07:20] <grndslm> does anybody here actually use 32 mb or less of ram??
[07:20] <kronoman> grndslm: if you fine tune linux, you can run it with less memory, i.e slackware with X and fluxbox can run in 8 mb
[07:21] <morgue> cynical, u there?
[07:21] <JohnAbbe> My Commodore PET had 32K of RAM...
[07:21] <Lynoure> fgxn: you have just gone from Debian to Ubuntu? (curious)
[07:21] <neo2ubuntu> pk..i just installed K3b...
[07:21] <VigoFuse> My Tandy TSR82 has less
[07:21] <Ademan> grndslm: i agree, if you've got limited resources use fluxbox
[07:21] <fgxn> Lynoure: I have.
[07:21] <morgue> Can someone help me? my webcam was working, then I upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and is not working now, what should I do?
[07:21] <ubuntu_newb> I just installed a control panel for my Ubuntu LAMP installation.  Is Ubuntu Debian 3.1 (Sarge) or Debian 4.0 (Etch)?
[07:21] <neo2ubuntu> can i just download a new ISO of Ubuntu and burn it in this Ubuntu live cd part and retry
[07:21] <JohnAbbe> morgue, it would probably help if you gave more details.
[07:21] <grndslm> hah...my mom brought home this spare computer from her work...and i just dunno if she could use anything that didn't end with a *buntu
[07:22] <wastrel> fgxn:  nvi eh
[07:22] <robert_> anyone here ever used a sit device(ipv6-to-4) before, and had it work?
[07:22] <fgxn> wastrel: Indeed.
[07:22] <grndslm> i barely can use linux, so she'd barely be able to use "linux for human beings"
[07:22] <Lynoure> fgxn: I did that on my laptop 6 months ago and still sometimes think about going back as it's more work to keep a lean system in Ubuntu and I do not so care for all the gui stuff
[07:22] <neo2ubuntu> can i use a cdrw
[07:22] <JohnAbbe> anyone have any more ideas about how to restart gdm when i'm booting from CD live?
[07:22] <fgxn> Lynoure: I've been using debian stable since 1999...I'm having trouble finding my way around some of the pointy bits of changing. :)
[07:22] <wastrel> fgxn:  it took me a while but i got to like vim - despite the undo weirdness :]
[07:22] <ubuntu_newb>  Is Ubuntu Debian 3.1 (Sarge) or Debian 4.0 (Etch)?
[07:22] <morgue> JohnAbbe, I'm using EasyCam2 and it detects the camera but when I go through the setup it says there was an error
[07:23] <tritium> Lynoure: more work?  No...
[07:23] <fgxn> wastrel: Their change to undo is the deal-breaker for me as well. :)
[07:23] <morgue> I have a logitech quickcam, it was working fine before I upgraded to 6.10
[07:23] <Lynoure> fgxn: But Ubuntu is an experience worth having, for sure.
[07:23] <wastrel> ubuntu_newb:  ubuntu releases are modified from sid i believe
[07:23] <Landon> Anyone know how I can play .avi files even after I've installed the Win32Codecs?
[07:23] <ubuntu_newb> what is sid?
[07:24] <fgxn> Rizla420: According to dpkg, it is called /usr/bin/bluefish.
[07:24] <Lynoure> tritium: yes it is. Removing stuff makes one have to install stuff back in just to get upgrade to next version go right
[07:24] <iratsu> are tehre some bluetooth problems in edgy?
[07:24] <Railer> Synaptic vs apt-get any difference? or just one CLI vs GUI?
[07:24] <fgxn> heh
thanks i coul do it with keb and not with gonome baker
 thaks
[07:24] <Alphax> Landon, .avi is a bit hit and miss because .avi is just a container; if you don't have the right codec, it won't play
[07:24] <tritium> Lynoure: you're referring to the -desktop metapackages?
[07:24] <grndslm> ok...i wanna start a fun game before i go to bed....what's the least amount of ram that you use on a desktop
[07:24] <Lynoure> tritium: and lots of bloat gets installed by default, like software for a scanner
[07:24] <Lynoure> tritium: yes.
[07:24] <morgue> JohnAbbe, and when I use camorama it says could not connect to device (/dev/video0) please check connection
[07:24] <Landon> Alphax: Where can I get the right codec?
[07:24] <Alphax> ubuntu_newb, sid is the unstable branch of Debian
[07:24] <robert_> anyone here ever used a sit device(ipv6-to-4) before, and had it work?
[07:25] <Alphax> grndslm, 48 on a P1
[07:25] <ubuntu_newb> I'm just wondering if this control panel will work with my server
[07:25] <Alphax> Landon, I have no idea. Google?
[07:25] <grndslm> Alphax, what distro you runnin'?
[07:25] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks
[07:25] <morgue> JohnAbbe, any suggestions?
[07:25] <fgxn> Lynoure: I don't really have a reason to change, I've always been extremely happy with debian...but I thought I'd take a look at how the other half lives. :)
[07:26] <Alphax> grndslm, oh that was windows 98. No I've got 1GB on my SUSE 10.0 desktop
[07:26] <Lynoure> fgxn: my reason exactly :) Come hang at #ubuntu-offtopic sometime, btw, it's a fun place
[07:26] <Railer> JohnAbbe Which Pet did you have? DId you have the internal or external tape drive?
[07:26] <yogeshitbhu> hello everyone !!! :) i am a newbei to linux .....can i start wth the debian
[07:26] <ubuntu_newb> this is the control panel I'm using...  http://www.syscp.org/wiki/Downloads
[07:26] <Alphax> er, 48MB
[07:26] <ubuntu_newb> will that work with Ubuntu?
[07:26] <tritium> yogeshitbhu: you _could_, but this is an ubuntu channel.  Why not start with ubuntu?
[07:26] <JDStone> !multiverse
[07:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:26] <grndslm> Alphax, yea...Win98 runs surprisingly well on my mom's old work computer w/ 32mb of ram...i'm convinced she just needs to donate it to good will or something
[07:27] <yogeshitbhu> ubuntu is not detecting sound card in my machine
[07:27] <ubuntu_newb> I'm just looking for a free control panel to use with my Ubuntu based LAMP server
[07:27] <globe> To put ubuntu on a Macbook should I use the 32 or 64-bit version?
[07:27] <Alphax> :)
[07:27] <morgue> JohnAbbe, are you there?
[07:27] <fgxn> globe: Do you want a 32 bit OS a 64 bit one?
 everone is telling me to go with ispconfig
[07:27] <JDStone> why isn't MythTV 0.20 in Universe repos instead of Multiverse?
[07:27] <Ademan> hey the k3d package failed to install (not k3b, this is a 3d modeling program) and it failed on the post-install script, now whenever i try to do anything with apt it first tries to run that stupid post-install script and it keeps failing and blocking me from doing anything else, including removing the offending package, what can i do?
[07:28] <fgxn> globe: I can't imagine there's any other reason for choosing one over the other
[07:28] <globe> fgxn: I guess I was wondering if the macbooks are 64bit
[07:28] <grndslm> JDStone, because it's unsupported
[07:28] <VigoFuse> Problem is this HP WinXP box did NOT come with a Win Install disk, so how to partion so I can install?
[07:28] <JDStone> Multiverse means that the packages could be broken and security holes, right?
[07:28] <JDStone> and no updates?
[07:28] <grndslm> it's too large for the ubuntu team to review, i'm sure
[07:28] <JDStone> grndslm: are those true? ^
[07:28] <Alphax> VigoFuse, get a livecd with gparted/qtparted
[07:29] <gustavol1> can I run sun-jre on amd64 ?
[07:29] <grndslm> mythtv is friggin' huge, ubuntu guys have different goals in mind
[07:29] <fgxn> globe: Oh. Well, that depends. Do you have the Core Duo version or the Core 2 Duo version?
[07:29] <JDStone> grndslm: no, I mean this: Multiverse means that the packages could be broken and security holes, right?
[07:29] <JDStone> 	JDStone	and no updates?
[07:29] <fgxn> globe: The former is 32, the latter 64
[07:29] <grndslm> JDStone, mythtv 0.20 in edgy multiverse works great
[07:29] <bluefox83> anyone here use qbittorrent?
[07:29] <globe> fgxn: thanks...actually I am distibuting ubuntu cds on my college campus...I don't personally have a mac ;-)
[07:29] <VigoFuse> Thank you, I have the CD ISO, I am just getting back into pooters and OS stuffs
[07:30] <morgue> Can someone help me? my webcam was working, then I upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and is not working now, what should I do? I tried easycam2 but it says there's an error, when I try to open camorama "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection.. any suggestions please?
[07:30] <JDStone> grndslm: well, I'll try them again, but when I upgraded to 0.20 from 0.19, it screwed everytihng up
[07:30] <JDStone> thanks grndslm
[07:30] <grndslm> JDStone, i doubt that the packages will be broken if you use STRICTLY the ubuntu repos, but if you add in merillat's and seveas, and all the other repos, something might break due to incompatible packages...
[07:30] <JDStone> oh, i see.  thanks grndslm.  maybe tha'ts the problem
[07:30] <clearzen> Do you need a ATI or NVIDIA card to use beryl + glx??
[07:30] <fgxn> globe: LIAR!!!
[07:30] <morgue> :(
[07:30] <grndslm> and sure there COULD be security holes, but i doubt it...and i'm sure security holes would see an update
[07:31] <fgxn> Hey, everyone, globe is a LIAR!
[07:31] <bluefox83> !qbittorrent
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qbittorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <fgxn> globe: ;)
[07:31] <globe> ...
[07:31] <firebird619> clearzen: I have Intel and Beryl works great.
[07:31] <globe> :-S
[07:31] <morgue> please? :(
[07:31] <fgxn> globe: Sorry, oblique reference to an American animated TV Show called "The Family Guy".
[07:32] <tritium> morgue: check the output of dmesg for messages about your cam
[07:32] <globe> fgxn: ooooh...I get it
[07:32] <morgue> tritium, how?
[07:32] <clearzen> firebird619:  I have beryl installed but when I try to enable it I get a black screen then it kicks me back out to the login screen. Do you have any idea what my problem could be?
[07:32] <tritium> morgue: dmesg is a command you use from the command line
[07:33] <Deramin> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. having some issues with my Anjuta IDE crashing, but I can solve the problem if I knew how to fully uninstall a program. Including any preferences files. I apparently created a total program fubar by moving the toolbars, and it persisted through a uninstall and reinstall using the basic add-remove programs interface. If someone knows another way to fix that crash, I'm all ears, too.
[07:33] <morgue> tritium, ok when i run that i get a lot of stuff, what should i be looking for?
[07:34] <firebird619> clearzen: No, sorry. maybe try #ubuntu-xgl channel. I just followed the Howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy and it worked great.
[07:34] <grndslm> Deramin, you actually find anjuta usable...i've tried in on more than one occasion and have never found it to be reliable
[07:34] <tritium> morgue: messages about your camera.  You can pipe the output into less so you can page through it: dmesg | less
[07:34] <globe> welp...gnite!
[07:34] <JohnAbbe> (I was discinnected so didn't see any answers. Will ask once more then stop bugging y'all) - any other ideas about how to restart gdm when i'm booting from CD live?
[07:34] <blazemonger> is there a prog for linux that automaticly adjustst the geometry settings on my monitor
[07:35] <fgxn> JohnAbbe: /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesn't work?
[07:36] <grndslm> Deramin, have you ever tried programming just with gedit and gcc/g++??  what language(s) are you using?
[07:36] <Deramin> grndslm: Javascript class, c++ class, and half a term of Java using it. I tried programing using other things before learning how to convert it to Java, but I couldn't find anything I liked half as well.
[07:37] <fgxn> Deramin: apt-get --purge remove <whatever>
[07:37] <troopa> Is there any security reasons why I would not want to be using the LTS (6.06, Drapper) version of Ubuntu? Or is this not even an issue?
[07:37] <JohnAbbe> fgxn - no
[07:37] <grndslm> i can't stand anything that uses java...avoid it like the plague, personally
[07:37] <Lathiat> troopa: No, dapper is fully supported
[07:37] <morgue> tritium, I can't find anything that says webcam
[07:37] <JohnAbbe> This is with Edgy Eft if that matters
[07:37] <wastrel> --purge won't remove ~/.anjuta
[07:37] <tritium> morgue: is it a USB device?  does it get listed with "lsusb"?
[07:38] <morgue> tritium, Only logitech I see is the usb receiver
[07:38] <troopa> So, the security updates for Drapper are still very frequent and everything is kept up-to-date?
[07:38] <morgue> tritium, let me see
[07:38] <Landon> What do I need to play DVD's in ubuntu?
[07:38] <wastrel> Deramin:  try what fgxn said with --purge, and also move ~/.anjuta  somewhere & see if that fixes
[07:38] <Ademan> hey the k3d package failed to install (not k3b, this is a 3d modeling program) and it failed on the post-install script, now whenever i try to do anything with apt it first tries to run that stupid post-install script and it keeps failing and blocking me from doing anything else, including removing the offending package, what can i do?
[07:38] <grndslm> Deramin, you should try just using gedit, tho...it's pretty friggin' sweet and totally reliable
[07:38] <tritium> troopa: yes, it's got Long-Term Support (LTS) for 5 years
[07:38] <morgue> tritium, I get this apt-get install easycam2
[07:38] <morgue> errr
[07:38] <DarkMageZ> tritium, i thought the LTS for the
[07:38] <morgue> tritium,  Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.
[07:38] <grndslm> i dunno how you compile java, tho...dunno anything about it honestly
[07:38] <DarkMageZ> tritium, desktop was for only 3 years
[07:38] <Deramin> grndslm: gedit doesn't have enough syntax highlighting for my taste. as for Java, I can't avoid it. CIS department uses it for 90% of the major
[07:39] <tritium> morgue: that's it, then.
[07:39] <cafuego> tritium: 3 years innit?
[07:39] <Ademan> grndslm: jus don't use java... lol
[07:39] <grndslm> Ademan, that's what i said
[07:39] <Ademan> grndslm: but if you're going to, use either netbeans or eclipse
[07:39] <morgue> tritium, yeah but it's not working properly
[07:39] <tritium> DarkMageZ, cafuego: 5 for Dapper, actually
[07:39] <AdamKili> help torrents won't work anymore!! here's what the terminal says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29839/ the package? it mentions isn't in Synaptic.
[07:39] <grndslm> i've heard netbeans had lotsa plugins that were pretty sweet
[07:39] <Ademan> netbeans is great, i used it on windows for my java class
[07:39] <Ademan> where i developed my hatred of java...
[07:39] <morgue> tritium,  when I try to open camorama "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection
[07:40] <Ademan> i'd use eclipse, but its so slow...
[07:40] <Landon> Hey guys, what do I need to play DVD's in ubuntu?
[07:40] <tritium> morgue: what was the dmesg info you saw?
[07:40] <tritium> !dvd
[07:40] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:40] <Landon> Thanks tritium
[07:41] <grndslm> Deramin, how much syntax highlighting do you need....gedit's got a good deal of highlighting for prolly all languages that are worth a damn
[07:41] <morgue> tritium, on dmesg I didn't see it
[07:41] <Geoffrey2> I need to load the GTK-2 devel packages.....what's the name of them in Ubuntu?
[07:41] <crimsun> libgtk2.0-dev
[07:41] <Ademan> wow you're fast crimsun
[07:41] <duncanm> hey crimsun
[07:41] <crimsun> hi
[07:42] <smoenux> Hello everyone
[07:42] <AdamKili> hi
[07:42] <theDtTvB> Helllo there again.
[07:42] <Deramin> grndslm: but does it draw a line at the end of every tab? It seems silly, but it's the difference between always knowing where I am and getting lost. I also like code completion, and code folding.
[07:42] <tritium> morgue: okay, are there no video devices under /dev ?
[07:42] <Geoffrey2> crimsun, thanks :)
[07:42] <crimsun> np
[07:42] <theDtTvB> I have some problems again... I saw "direct rendering: off", are there any ways to turn it on?
[07:43] <AdamKili> help torrents won't work anymore!! here's what the terminal says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29839/ the package(?) it mentions isn't in Synaptic.
[07:43] <grndslm> Deramin, i guess i just like manuals better than automatics
[07:43] <Ademan> hey crimsun you're a smart dude, here's my problem hey the k3d package failed to install (not k3b, this is a 3d modeling program) and it failed on the post-install script, now whenever i try to do anything with apt it first tries to run that stupid post-install script and it keeps failing and blocking me from doing anything else, including removing the offending package, what can i do?      any ideas? no one even responds to my q
[07:43] <Ademan> uestion, i almost feel like i'm spamming now :-)
[07:43] <morgue> tritium, I'm a noob btw heh
[07:43] <Geoffrey2> oh, before I go through make and make install, is the latest mplayer available for Ubuntu?  or do I need to compile from source?
[07:43] <smoenux> can anyone tell me if the following link contains a valid driver for Nvidia? and if it's worth upgrading :)  ... (http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6926&highlight=guild+wars+text)
[07:43] <wastrel> !mplayer
[07:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[07:43] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:43] <morgue> tritium, ok if i go to /dev using file browser there are 3 video files, video, video0 and video1
[07:44] <wastrel> !info mplayer
[07:44] <Deramin> grndslm: I like manuals with GPS navigation =)
[07:44] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[07:44] <AdamKili> help torrents won't work anymore!! here's what the terminal says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29839/ the package(?) it mentions isn't in Synaptic.
[07:44] <fgxn> Ademan: You can go into /var/lib/dpkg/info/<thatpackage>.postinst and see what happened, fix the script, and then run dpkg --configure -a to let it finish that package and fix apt
[07:44] <grndslm> Deramin, hah...good one
[07:44] <grndslm> but i'd still rather have a stable app that did everything i wanted it to do, than an app that has never been stable
[07:44] <tritium> morgue: okay, that's a good sign
[07:44] <Geoffrey2> pre8?  ok, that means the latest version's not in the repos yet, guess I build from source
[07:44] <theDtTvB> Are there anyway to turn direct rendering on?
[07:45] <grndslm> Deramin, anyway...i'd look into netbeans if i were you....i've heard lotsa good things
[07:45] <morgue> tritium, it was working with 6.06
[07:45] <tritium> morgue: yeah, I know
[07:45] <Ademan> fgxn: hrm, the problem is in pycentral though
[07:45] <morgue> should I get the hammer?
[07:45] <morgue> :)
[07:45] <fgxn> Ademan: I don't know what that means, sorry
[07:46] <Ademan> fgxn: neither do i :-) it just complains about a python version not being specified
[07:46] <wastrel> python eh
[07:46] <AdamKili> help torrents won't work anymore!! here's what the terminal says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29839/ the package(?) it mentions isn't in Synaptic.
[07:46] <Aji-Dahaka> does xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 only work on x86?  (or more relevantly, not amd64)
[07:46] <fgxn> Ademan: All I can do is tell you where to go to fix it. You're probably going to have to ask a k3d-specific forum to get more detailed help.
[07:47] <fgxn> AdamKili: You're not likely to get help if you just keep spamming the same question over and over
[07:47] <morgue> tritium, u there?
[07:47] <Ademan> AdamKili: try installing the python-gnome2 et all packages?
[07:47] <tritium> morgue: yes, but need to go soon
[07:48] <morgue> :(
[07:48] <duncanm> i can't figure out this shift 96 thing
[07:48] <duncanm> shift: 96: can't shift that many
[07:48] <morgue> tritium, think you can help me?
[07:48] <duncanm> it'd be nice if there's a way to debug .xsession-errors
[07:48] <JohnAbbe> oh well, thx to fgxn and Alphax for trying
[07:49] <fgxn> JohnAbbe: Are you using kubuntu instead of ubuntu, perhaps?
[07:49] <JohnAbbe> no, it's ubuntu
[07:49] <Ademan> AdamKill: also python-gtk2
[07:49] <fgxn> Odd that it doesn't have an /etc/init.d/gdm then
[07:49] <tritium> morgue: try looking at logs in /var/log, such as syslog and messages. At least the device is recognized
[07:49] <fgxn> Ademan: he left
[07:50] <JohnAbbe> it has it, it's just that running it doesn't do anything
[07:50] <fgxn> JohnAbbe: Is gdm crashing?
[07:50] <JohnAbbe> no
[07:50] <fgxn> Maybe it's restarting it, but it crashes too early?
[07:51] <JohnAbbe> but the screen comes up black
[07:51] <tritium> JohnAbbe: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart does nothing?
[07:51] <JohnAbbe> no, i just get another command line prompt
[07:51] <tritium> you used sudo?
[07:51] <JohnAbbe> i'll try sudo invoke-rc.d gdm
[07:51] <tritium> JohnAbbe: you need the "restart" too
[07:51] <morgue> tritium, on syslog.0 I get things like Oct 31 01:00:06 localhost kernel: [17179605.424000]  quickcam: Kernel:2.6.15-27-386 bus:2 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:08F6
[07:51] <JohnAbbe> aha, i may not have used sudo, wasn't thinking about that
[07:51] <JohnAbbe> right
[07:52] <morgue> tritium, is that what I wana look for?
[07:52] <Deramin> fgxn, grndslm: used the  --purge on Anjuta. It seemed to have been removed. I then reinstalled it and I have the same problem
[07:52] <JohnAbbe> okay, that gives me some things to try, thx a lot! (got only one keyboard and that computer's in another room...)
[07:52] <fgxn> Deramin: Then it probably planted some sort of config file in your home directory
[07:52] <fgxn> Deramin: Such as ~/.anjuta
[07:52] <wastrel> Deramin:  did you move ~/.anjuta
[07:52] <tritium> morgue: gooes, it's recognized.  camorama should be able to see that
[07:52] <fgxn> (That's pure guess on my part)
[07:52] <morgue> tritium, it's not
[07:53] <clearzen> !beryl
[07:53] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:53] <morgue> tritium,  when I try to open camorama "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection"
[07:53] <fgxn> NickaNicka: Does /dev/video0 exist?
[07:54] <fgxn> morgue, that is
[07:54] <morgue> fgxn, you talking to me?
[07:54] <morgue> ok
[07:54] <fgxn> yes, I simply can't type :)
[07:54] <morgue> well yeah
[07:54] <morgue> but I tried to open it
[07:54] <wastrel> Deramin:  there also seems to be a ~/.gnome2/Anjuta
[07:54] <morgue> and it says I can't
[07:54] <Landon> Hey all, when I play my DVD's on ubuntu, they come in brighter than normal, any ideas?
[07:54] <wastrel> lots of weird stuff tucked away in ~/.gnome2
[07:54] <fgxn> morgue: What are the permissions on the device?
[07:54] <dougsko> hey guys, quick question...if i restart X, will i lose a "screen" session?
[07:54] <morgue> fgxn, I have no idea
[07:54] <morgue> hehe
[07:54] <ClayG> nah
[07:54] <ClayG> dougsko: no
[07:54] <ClayG> only restarting the computer or killing the screen session will do that
[07:55] <dougsko> ClayG: wicked... thanks
[07:55] <Wicked> O.o
[07:55] <morgue> fgxn, can I check that somehow?
[07:55] <ClayG> anyone know dell's return policy on notebooks?
[07:55] <Landon> Hey all, when I play my DVD's on ubuntu, they come in brighter than normal, any ideas?
[07:56] <fgxn> morgue: ls -al /dev/video0
[07:56] <morgue> ClayG, it may deppend on what deals you got when you got it
[07:56] <dougsko> ClayG: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/policy/en/policy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010
[07:56] <Lynoure> ClayG: check the Dell site or call them in your country. I bet it varies depending on the location
[07:56] <CorpseFeeder> is the #winehq channel busted or something? there is no activity in there at all. Surely everyone in there can't be asleep?
[07:56] <wastrel> it is 2am
[07:56] <morgue> fgxn, I get crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81, 0 2006-11-02 01:11 /dev/video0
[07:57] <Deramin> wastrel: know where any other Anjuta files might be lurking?
[07:57] <fgxn> morgue: What does "cat /dev/video0" do?
[07:58] <wastrel> Deramin:  try locate anjuta | grep home
[07:58] <morgue> cat: /dev/video0: No such device
[07:59] <wastrel> Deramin:  ~/.gnome2/accels/anjuta
[07:59] <Deramin> wastrel: uh... I'm afraid you lost me.
[07:59] <wastrel> Deramin:  that's all i can find :]
[07:59] <morgue> fgxn, cat: /dev/video0: No such device
[07:59] <wastrel> Deramin:  locate  finds files on the filesystem (based on a database, so may be out of sync wiht reality, but faster than find)
[07:59] <morgue> fgxn, should I try deleting video and re-install the camera using easycam2?
[08:00] <wastrel> locate anjuta | grep home  would limit searches to /home
[08:00] <fgxn> morgue: It's not loading the kernel module
[08:00] <Deramin> wastrel: where is locate located? XD
[08:00] <amir> ugh
[08:00] <wastrel> which locate  :]
[08:00] <fgxn> morgue: Do you know which kernel driver provides the support for your hardware?
[08:00] <amir> I loaded kubuntu but it looks like ubuntu with just kubuntu + ubuntu programs on in
[08:00] <amir> on it*
[08:00] <Deramin> wastrel: the one that locates things for me. XD
[08:01] <morgue> fgxn, no, easycam2 installed everything so i really don't know
[08:01] <fgxn> Deramin: No, that's a command. "which locate"
[08:01] <royce> is ubuntu built around making the windows directory hard to find. i cant find it, im too much of a newbie. do i need to do some kind of hdd mounting stuff...?
[08:01] <fgxn> Deramin: It may not be installed, in which case you have to apt-get install slocate
[08:02] <fgxn> Deramin: Then you have to run updatedb and wait for the locate database to be built.
[08:02] <morgue> fgxn, maybe this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225&highlight=logitech+quickcam
[08:02] <wastrel> or just run  find ~ -iname anjuta
[08:02] <shaslap> where can i set what processes run on start up, tremulous server keeps starting by default and then continually using 80% cpu time and killing my battery life
[08:02] <Deramin> fgxn: funny how that turned into a "Who's on First" type of comedy routine. Sometimes things in Linux are too well named
[08:02] <royce> Is there a simple command i can throw into Terminal that will locate my windows xp directory
[08:02] <fgxn> Deramin: It's probably just as easy to either: 1) find /home/<user> -name \*whatever\*; or 2) strace -e open -o /tmp/somefile <whatever> and see where it's finding things.
[08:03] <fgxn> morgue: sudo modprobe quickcam
[08:03] <morgue> done
[08:04] <fgxn> morgue: cat /dev/video0
[08:04] <wastrel> shaslap:  you can modify startup programs with  update-rc.d   sudo update-rc.d -f tremulous remove  will remove it from startup
[08:04] <morgue> cat: /dev/video0: No such device
[08:04] <shaslap> thanks wastrel
[08:04] <fgxn> morgue: USB device?
[08:04] <morgue> fgxn, yes
[08:04] <fgxn> morgue: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[08:05] <fgxn> morgue: hit enter a few times to distinguish the current "End"
[08:05] <fgxn> morgue: Then unplug and re-plug the USB device and watch what the logs say
[08:05] <Deramin> Yay! Anjuta is fixed! I may need to redo my syntax highlighting, but at least I can do my homework XD. thank you.
[08:06] <fgxn> Deramin: What was it?
[08:06] <firebird619> Could someone help me out with a gdm and/or driver problem. Since installing Edgy, Ubuntu doesn't always start, when it doesn't, it gets just past grub and sticks at a blank screen. I worked with iter earlier today and we disabled gdm, so I can get to Ubuntu by logging in at a text-login and then starting x.
[08:06] <yogeshitbhu> can u tell me the substitute for your-freedom(windows) in ubuntu (it is used forspeeding up the net)
[08:06] <morgue> fgxn, I get: Nov  2 02:05:48 localhost kernel: [17351321.004000]  usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 5     Nov  2 02:05:52 localhost kernel: [17351324.268000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6     Nov  2 02:05:52 localhost kernel: [17351324.456000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:06] <Deramin> fgxn: one of the files under ~.gnome2
[08:07] <jordan> !ops
[08:07] <Madpilot> jordan, it's just a netsplit - nothing the ops can do
[08:07] <yogeshitbhu> can nyone tell me thesubstitue for your freedom in ubuntu
[08:07] <wastrel> mmm that was fun
[08:08] <jordan> Madpilot: Sorry, I thought someone was spamming, I don't know much about IRC :)
[08:08] <morgue> fgxn, did you catch my msg?
[08:08] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, what?
[08:08] <Belutz> hi all
[08:08] <turk> hi
[08:09] <fgxn> morgue: I did, but I'm not sure where to go from there. I've never owned a webcam of any sort, I was just applying general concepts.
[08:09] <Deramin> fgxn: one of the files under ~.gnome2 seems to have done it. ((sorry for the repeat if you actually saw it))
[08:09] <Belutz> someone ask me why 6.10 doesn't have LTS, what should I answer that?
[08:09] <morgue> :(
[08:09] <Madpilot> Belutz, not every release is an LTS release
[08:10] <amir> could someone help me get .wmv files to play in firefox?
[08:10] <fgxn> It would be insane of Ubuntu to try and do that.
[08:10] <Belutz> Madpilot, and why is that? i've been looking in the wiki and can't find the answer
[08:10] <morgue> fgxn, any suggestions? :(
[08:10] <amir> I cant get any windows media player files to work in ubuntu
[08:10] <yogeshitbhu> sustitue for your freedom
[08:10] <wastrel> ubuntu doesn't have unlimited resources, so can't provide the type of service needed for lts for every release
[08:11] <fgxn> morgue: No, I'm pretty much tapped at this point, sorry. It would appear that the "quickcam" module doesn't register the same major and minor device as what your system is expecting to find it at, but I don't know enough about webcams to tell you where to look for more.
[08:11] <Madpilot> Belutz, LTS is for corporate enviroments & such, were they don't *want* to update everything every 6 months, and where 18months of support isn't long enough
[08:11] <morgue> tritium, u there?
[08:11] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot: it is used for increased net accesss in windows and i am not getting its ubuntu version
[08:11] <coldboot> What do you do if "aptitude -f install" can't find a solution to broken packages in several allotted times?
[08:12] <turk> hello everyone
[08:12] <amir> Could someone show me how to get windows codecs to play in ubuntu please?
[08:12] <wastrel> fgxn, morgue you can add usb device id's into /etc/udev/rules.d/  files to enable the udev system to recognize more devices
[08:12] <jordan> !codecs
[08:12] <morgue> fgxn, np man, thanks
[08:12] <morgue> wastrel, how do I do that?
[08:12] <amir> Jordan, how do I get those codecs into firefox to play them?
[08:13] <jordan> amir, Try mplayer-mozplugin.
[08:13] <BobLoblaw> BobLoblaw: hi
[08:13] <Belutz> Madpilot, one more questions, are the LTS versions would be release in every 2 years or how many months?
[08:13] <coz_> amir, hold on ...I will get the link for you
[08:13] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, what do you mean by 'increased web access'?
[08:13] <amir> Jordan, how do I do that?
[08:13] <amir> thank you very much coz_
[08:13] <BobLoblaw> !erc
[08:13] <fgxn> wastrel: I'll have to dig into that. I spent so much time learning devfs, I didn't want to get burned again on udev, so I've been holding off.
[08:13] <BobLoblaw> !gentoo
[08:13] <Madpilot> Belutz, it sounds like every 3rd release is going to be LTS - possibly - so every 18 months
[08:14] <wastrel> morgue:  easiest thing is prolly to grep in that directory for webcam or something to find the file with the webcam definitions.  then copy one of the existiing lines and change the device ID's to match yours (which you find from the syslog as you plug in the device)
[08:14] <JohnAbbe> still trying to restart gdm on live 6.10 (on a 500MHz G3 iMac)
[08:14] <wastrel> make sense?
[08:14] <JohnAbbe> tried 'sudo gdm restart' and got 'GDM already running. Aborting!'
[08:14] <Belutz> Madpilot, thanks a lot for your information :)
[08:14] <coz_> amir,  go here, read carefully, work slowly... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:14] <JohnAbbe> tried 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' and got 'invoke-rc.d initscript gdm, action "restart" failed.'
[08:14] <wastrel> fgxn:  i had to learn it to get my clie to sync :]
[08:14] <JohnAbbe> any more ideas? :)
[08:14] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot:means in my college band widht is very low and its very hard to surfing so we use your freedom for better access
[08:15] <jordan> amir: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:15] <fgxn> JohnAbbe: "sudo killall gdm"
[08:15] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, so it's a compression utility or something like that?
[08:15] <JohnAbbe> ok...
[08:15] <fgxn> JohnAbbe: Then /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:15] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot: yeah
[08:16] <morgue> wastrel, ok i'm on rules.d trying to find something that says webcam
[08:16] <pibarnas> How can I correct the problem of dark gtk-themes on firefox (the menubar isn't displayed)?
[08:16] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot:i hv one more problem by default ubuntu has not detected my sound card so i am not able to play songs ... can i get the drivers from the net wch can helpo me out
[08:17] <royce> Does anyone know what area to goto on gnome-look.org to find Ubuntu themes???
[08:17] <jordan> amir: Once you have mplayer installed, you can make firefox use it instead of totem by running: sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*
[08:17] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, ah, OK. I've never used any of the compression utils, not sure if there are any Linux versions
[08:18] <Madpilot> royce, look for Metacity themes & GTK2 themes
[08:18] <Madpilot> !themes
[08:18] <wastrel> morgue:  anything with  quickcam or qcam ?
[08:18] <troopa> Why are people on the ubuntu forums complaining so much about the security in Ubuntu? I have seen some posts saying "There is no firewall by default", but Ubuntu uses IPTables. Do they just think firestarter is the actual firewall?
[08:18] <wastrel> what firewall rules are active by default?
[08:19] <Madpilot> troopa, yes, probably. There are also no open/active ports by default, so little need for a full firewall
[08:19] <troopa> I'm not sure, honestly.
[08:19] <morgue> wastrel, not a file, I'm looking inside the files
[08:19] <amir> jordan, I input sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*, but nothing came up, it just went to the next line. It didnt tell me anything, or is it not supposed to?
[08:19] <jordan> amir: It isn't supposed to.
[08:19] <troopa> Mad: I set my hosts.deny to ALL:ALL when I install any distribution.
[08:19] <amir> oh ok thank you Jordan
[08:20] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot: do u knw ny such package????
[08:20] <jordan> amir: Did that work?
[08:20] <troopa> Plus, there are no open services -- and that is pretty proactive, imho.
[08:20] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, for the compression you need? No idea, sorry.
[08:20] <amir> I am going to check right now Jordan
[08:20] <amir> do I have to restart firefox?
[08:20] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot:k fine and my second prob
[08:20] <troopa> So, does anyone know why people on the forums are complaining so much about the lack of security in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <jordan> amir: Probably
[08:21] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot:can i get the drivers from the net wch can run audio in my machine
[08:21] <Madpilot> troopa, because they're used to having to install a whole raft of "security' apps in Windows, and don't realize they're all unneeded in *nix?
[08:21] <morgue> wastrel, there's nothing
[08:21] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, you should be able to get things working without extra drivers
[08:21] <wastrel> morgue:  sec i'm installing quickcam
[08:21] <morgue> kk
[08:22] <atarinox> can anybody recommend a relatively painless DC++ client to install for xfce?
[08:22] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot:actually the song is running but i am not able to hear it as if it had been muted.....  the video is also running
[08:22] <morgue> wasabi, I used easycam2 for the setup
[08:22] <amir> no its not Jordan, it's just giving me a message that it is playing the video, but not actually playing the image
[08:22] <yogeshitbhu> so it mean tht the version wch i am using does not support my sound card??
[08:22] <weedar> I'm trying to compile a module for my webcam, which worked yesterday. But I have since upgraded my kernel 2.6.15-26 to 2.6.15-27 and during compile it cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/build
[08:22] <aerturas> ar kas moka lietuviskai?
[08:22] <yogeshitbhu> Madpilot:so it mean tht the version wch i am using does not support my sound card??
[08:23] <morgue> wastrel, when I run easycam2 setup I get "choose your webcam from the list, and I get this Bus 001 Device 006: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.
[08:23] <crimsun> weedar: because you don't have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed
[08:23] <crimsun> weedar: remember that an ABI bump (26->27) means you need to grab the matching headers, too
[08:23] <troopa> Madpilot: True. I am a very paranoid person (and I love security-based things) so I always apply the GRSec patch to any Linux distribution I use. Maybe ubuntu could come default with the GRSec patch or something, since users want better security.
[08:23] <Madpilot> yogeshitbhu, right-click on the speaker icon beside the clock (top right corner), go thru both the Prefences & the Volume Control, make sure nothings turned off by mistake
[08:23] <weedar> crimsun: but I do have the directory over build there
[08:24] <crimsun> weedar: make sure you actually have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed
[08:24] <jordan> amir: You may also want a package called win32codecs which is illegal if you don't own a copy of windows, I can help you install that also but first try an mpeg4 video to see if mplayer itself is working.
[08:24] <yogeshitbhu> madpoilot:    i hv chked all tht but is not working
[08:24] <wastrel> morgue:  i think you have a diff prob than just a udev rule
[08:25] <wastrel> morgue:  is the quickcam module loading?
[08:25] <morgue> wastrel, I don't know, how can I check?
[08:25] <fgxn> lsmod | grep -i quick
[08:25] <amir> well I do own a copy of windows, so if possible could you help me with that Jordan?
[08:25] <fgxn> wastrel: I think the problem is that the quickcam module doesn't register the device nodes that /dev/video0 lives on
[08:26] <fgxn> But that's a pretty wild shot. I don't know where the quickcam module comes from, so I can't be sure.
[08:26] <yogeshitbhu> madpoilot when i finishes the installation the sound was heared in it....  so wht can be sayed....
[08:26] <jordan> amir, Are you running Edgy or Dapper?
[08:26] <weedar> amir: what webcam are you setting up?
[08:26] <amir> weedar, I'm not setting up a webcam
[08:27] <amir> Jordan, well I am running edgy/kubuntu somehow
[08:27] <fgxn> wastrel: That is, quickcam doesn't appear to be part of the kernel source, so I don't know where he's getting it.
[08:27] <wastrel> webcam guy is morgue
[08:27] <weedar> crimsun, you are of course right. I was so sure I had it installed, but... :)
[08:27] <amir> Jordan, I am going to say running edgy
[08:27] <morgue> weedar, I'm the one setting up the webcam :P
[08:27] <weedar> ah, then...what webcam are YOU setting up morgue :)
[08:27] <morgue> logitech quickcam
[08:27] <wastrel> fgxn the forum post has them building from source
[08:28] <morgue> Logitech QuickCam Messenger
[08:28] <jordan> amir: Ok , you need to add some lines to your sources.list: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <weedar> morgue, not the "quickam for notebooks pro"?
[08:28] <Illusion_of_Art> Is there a way to reset Ubuntu to its defaults
[08:28] <morgue> no, the Messenger one
[08:28] <fgxn> wastrel: OK, I closed that tab already. :)
[08:28] <morgue> weedar, this one http://www.fredx.de/shop/catalog/images/logitech-messenger.gif
[08:28] <WhyNot> hi does anyone can tell me what are the minimum requirements to run Ubuntu
[08:29] <amir> Jordan, I will be with you in a sec, I am trying something that I got from the ubuntu help site, it is downloading something
[08:29] <fgxn> WhyNot: A computer?
[08:29] <WhyNot> fgxn yep
[08:29] <coldboot> How do you fix an ubuntu system that suggests you remove hundreds of packages when you do aptitude -f install?
[08:29] <fgxn> WhyNot: Depending on what you want, Ubuntu could potentially run on a 386 with about 8GB of HDD and 32MB of RAM, maybe less
[08:29] <WhyNot> :|
[08:30] <WhyNot> oh I have a pentium II with 533MHz
[08:30] <bun-bun> coldboot# you might have broken packages
[08:30] <fgxn> WhyNot: It will almost certainly run on that.
[08:30] <coldboot> bun-bun: I do, but there are tons of them
[08:30] <jordan> WhyNot: You might want to try xubuntu.
[08:30] <bun-bun> coldboot# open up synaptic and sort by broken packages
[08:30] <WhyNot> I thouhgt I need to install lighter version os Ubuntu like ubuntu-lite or Xubuntu, are they good?
[08:30] <bun-bun> coldboot# and remove them all
[08:30] <WhyNot> I tried Ubuntu-lite but gave and fatal error on X
[08:31] <jordan> WhyNot: Ubuntu-lite is not officially supported, xubuntu is.
[08:31] <Ademan> how can i disable gtk accessibility?
[08:31] <coldboot> bun-bun: I get no broken packages in synaptic
[08:32] <morgue> wastrel, u there?
[08:32] <WhyNot> jordan so Xubuntu will haave the basic features and run faster right?
[08:32] <wastrel> hi yes morgue
[08:32] <gaminggeek> hello
[08:32] <jordan> WhyNot: Yes.
[08:32] <WhyNot> cool
[08:32] <WhyNot> downloading atm
[08:32] <coldboot> bun-bun: What exactly is a broken package, anyway?
[08:32] <bun-bun> coldboot# in synaptic click the Custom Filters button
[08:32] <amir> Alright Jordan, what were you saying?
[08:32] <morgue> wastrel, any suggestions?
[08:32] <timhaughton> What is the GNUPG key management utility called in Gnome (Edgy)
[08:32] <jordan> amir: Ok , you need to add some lines to your sources.list: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <bun-bun> coldboot# and then click Broken in left column
[08:32] <gaminggeek> anyone else hate they way totem plays crap all correctly?
[08:32] <bun-bun> coldboot# that will show you the broken packages
[08:33] <coldboot> bun-bun: There are no broken packages shown when I click broken in the left menu
[08:33] <Illusion_of_Art> My Ubuntu will no longer support sound, does not work with multiple users, and refuses to recognize a hard drive I formatted in Ubuntu which worked previously. I want to set everything back to its default. Is there a way to do that?
[08:33] <coldboot> bun-bun: I unchecked broken in the filters, still nothing
[08:33] <bun-bun> coldboot# broken packages are usually when you try to install packages and dependant packages are missing
[08:33] <Majic> I was wondering if I could get some help with the "ndiswrapper" program.  I used it to install a Windows driver for my wireless card and I don't know how to use the card.  The driver is installed and it recognizes that the hardware and driver are correct.  I just don't know how to configure anything beyond that.
[08:33] <bun-bun> coldboot# hmm, it should list them..  apt shows them though?
[08:34] <amir> holy cow it just shit a brick Jordan, it just said stuff like no database available! and application "kate" crashing
[08:34] <morgue> weedar, any suggestions?
[08:34] <scamboy> was up everyone....
[08:34] <coldboot> `aptitude -f install` says there are broken packages, but `apt-get -f install` says everything is fine
[08:34] <amir> Hi scamboy
[08:34] <scamboy> amir? a malaysian
[08:34] <amir> no scamboy, Californian
[08:34] <wastrel> morgue:  did you run the lsmod command?   lsmod | grep quickcam
[08:35] <scamboy> nice meeting u..
[08:35] <amir> you too
[08:35] <jordan> amir: What is the KDE equivelent of gksudo?
[08:35] <weedar> morgue: I use a different logitch webcam myself, which uses the uvc drivers, but I see two howtos on the ubuntuforum site - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225&highlight=quickcam+messenger and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191770&highlight=quickcam+messenger
[08:35] <ruxpin> jordan: kdsu
[08:35] <jordan> amir: try: kdsu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:35] <scamboy> no...i am malaysian...hmn..still looking for a another malaysian that is also linux freak like me..
[08:35] <morgue> wastrel, quickcam               73764  0
[08:35] <morgue> videodev                9728  1 quickcam
[08:35] <morgue> usbcore               130304  9 quickcam,usblp,rio500,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[08:36] <amir> bash: kdsu command not found Jordan
[08:36] <weedar> amir; try "kdesu" instead :)
[08:36] <bun-bun> coldboot# if synaptic isn't showing broken packages i would go with that
[08:37] <coldboot> bun-bun: What happens when you do `sudo aptitude -f install` on your system?
[08:37] <wastrel> ok
[08:37] <morgue> weedar, on step 2 it says - Install the kernel-headers 2.6.10 for i386 from synaptic, and the kernel sources.
[08:37] <amir> Jordan, a thing came up, what next?
[08:37] <morgue> weedar, and when I look for that on synaptic, it's not there
[08:38] <coldboot> bun-bun: One sec, brb
[08:38] <jordan> amir: Add these lines:
[08:38] <jordan> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ edgy-plf free non-free
[08:38] <jordan> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ edgy-plf free non-free
[08:38] <scamboy> anyone know how 2 deal bluetooth??
[08:38] <amir> where do I add them?
[08:38] <amir> anywhere Jordan?
[08:38] <wastrel> morgue:  i dunno, the module is running, just not recognizing your hardware.  i suggest posting to the forum .  i'm not a webcam user myself...
[08:38] <jordan> amir: anywhere works.
[08:38] <scamboy> anyone?
[08:39] <amir> Alright Jordan, I added those
[08:39] <amir> do I save and exit out Jordan?
[08:39] <jordan> amir: yup
[08:39] <morgue> wastrel, kk thanks :)
[08:39] <weedar> morgue: the howto was probably written when the kernel version was 2.6.10, at the moment it is either 2.6.15-27 for dapper or 2.6.17 (i think) for edgy
[08:39] <scamboy> so how is edgy???
[08:39] <morgue> 6.10 is edgy right?
[08:39] <amir> jordan: alright what is next then?
[08:40] <scamboy> better or worse??
[08:40] <jordan> amir: Now run : wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add
[08:40] <amir> it said cannot write , broken pipe
[08:40] <wastrel> gotta get some sleep
[08:41] <weedar> morgue: if you write uname-r in a konsole window you will be told what your kernel-version is, install the kernel-headers for that version instead
[08:41] <morgue> weedar, when I search for kernel-headers on synaptic all I get is 2.4.*
[08:41] <amir> jordan: it said cannot write , broken pipe
[08:41] <ndowens> hey
[08:41] <weedar> morgue, what output does "uname -r" in a knosole window give you?
[08:41] <morgue> 2.6.17-10-386
[08:42] <amir> question, what does sudo mean?
[08:42] <avalon> I'm having problems upgrading to edgy from dapper. I've tried doing the dist-upgrade after changing my sources list and that completely fawked everything up. Now I can't even get my linux to boot. I've got my CD of edgy now though. Can I tell it to install over what I screwed up without losing my home directory and my files?
[08:42] <fgxn> amir: It's a command to run things as root
[08:42] <jordan> amir: I think the key didn't download for some reason, try again
[08:42] <jordan> !sudo
[08:42] <fgxn> amir: "man sudo" for more
[08:43] <fgxn> avalon: Is your home directory on its own partition?
[08:43] <avalon> It's on the same drive as the install of ubuntu
[08:43] <avalon> which is it's own partition.
[08:43] <amir> alright so sudo is telling it to do something
[08:43] <fgxn> avalon: So all of ubuntu is in one big partition?
[08:43] <avalon> yes
[08:44] <amir> alright so sudo is telling it to do something?
[08:44] <fgxn> amir: Specifically, telling it to do something as root.
[08:44] <scamboy>  avalon: i thinking 2 upgrade 2..
[08:44] <amir> fgxn: another newb question.... root means?
[08:44] <morgue> weedar, when I try sudo apt-get xawtv, I get E: Invalid operation xawtv
[08:44] <fgxn> amir: If you type "foo" at the command line, it runs the program foo. If you type "sudo foo", it runs the command foo as if root were the one running it.
[08:44] <scamboy> amir: main directory
[08:44] <fgxn> amir: The root account is the all-powerful, administrative account.
[08:45] <fgxn> scamboy: Not the directory, the user. :)
[08:45] <weedar> morgue, I bet you'll be able to install the correct package with this command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10"
[08:45] <user-land2> jordan, is the skype package from plf better then the one from skype ?
[08:45] <jordan> avalon: For future reference, a lot of people have been giving incorrect upgrade instructions, gksu update-manager -c is official, editing your sources.list is less safe
[08:45] <amir> btw, I am completely new to linux, so please excuse me if I ask too many questions fgxn
[08:45] <weedar> morgue, that is because the proper syntax is "sudo apt-get install xawtv", you forgot to add install to your command line
[08:45] <morgue> weedar, linux-headers-2.6.17-10 is already the newest version.
[08:45] <totall_6_7> SUDO = superuser do
[08:45] <scamboy> amir: me too...... hehheeh
[08:45] <jordan> user-land2: No idea, sorry.
[08:45] <weedar> morgue, in that case it is already installed then
[08:45] <amir> fgxn. what about apt-get?
[08:46] <fgxn> amir: ...
[08:46] <morgue> ok i'm doing the xawtv now :D
[08:46] <weedar> :)
[08:46] <fgxn> amir: Type "man apt-get" into your console and read
[08:46] <amir> fgxn: sorry about this, I am curious by nature
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> hi everybody
[08:46] <jordan> amir: Did the command work the second time?
[08:46] <avalon> I've learned my lesson about editing the sources list... now I'm just hoping I haven't lost my /home. I had VERy valuable files in there.
[08:46] <fgxn> amir: It's ok to be curious, but it's good to do some of the work on your own as well.
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> how we get freedom for ubuntu?
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> how we get freedom for ubuntu?
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> how we get freedom for ubuntu?
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> how we get freedom for ubuntu?
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> how we get freedom for ubuntu?
[08:46] <prabhatitbhu> how we get freedom for ubuntu?
[08:46] <scamboy>  prabh: hi..
[08:47] <fgxn> amir: It doesn't make sense for me to transcribe manpages into #ubuntu
[08:47] <morgue> weedar, now with this one i get apt-get gcc-3.4
[08:47] <morgue> weedar, gcc-3.4 is already the newest version.
[08:47] <amir> jordan: I didnt try, I am going to install kubuntu onto my notebook so working on it is kinda useless
[08:47] <fgxn> ubuntu needs freedom?
[08:47] <glatzor> avalon: only backuped files are important. :)
[08:47] <amir> oh ok, I didnt know I can use man apy-get to get info on it
[08:47] <glatzor> avalon: what happend during your upgrade?
[08:47] <scamboy>  fgxn: ubuntu is fredoom..
[08:47] <fgxn> amir: You can use "man <any command at all>" to get info on it
[08:47] <scheuri> g'day all
[08:48] <weedar> morgue, when it says it is already newest version that just means you already have it installed, no problem :)
[08:48] <fgxn> scamboy: I'm just wondering what the slavering lunatic was on about
[08:48] <weedar> morgue, which of the howtos are you following by he way? :)
[08:48] <morgue> weedar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225&highlight=quickcam+messenger
[08:48] <scamboy> guys, will i loose all my document on upgrade??
[08:48] <morgue> weedar, I'm on the "extract drivers" part
[08:48] <avalon> Well... I got a BUNCH of errors, now I can't get x to start. I get the new startup screens and everything, but now I get a x error talking about no screens found. I tried to apt-get install xserver-xorg and it says it's already the newest version
[08:48] <scheuri> scamboy: what documents? what upgrade from where to where?
[08:48] <kuja> Hm, I just saw "Feisty" listed in packages.ubuntu.com while searching for packages. Feisty is the next release, eh? What's the full name?
[08:49] <jordan> fgxn: Maybe a troll, mabe PLF ?
[08:49] <Madpilot> kuja, Feisty Fawn
[08:49] <kuja> Great, thanks.
[08:49] <scheuri> scamboy: whatever you answer is....BACKUP is always important! never do something big without backup!
[08:49] <weedar> avalon, maybe try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:49] <fgxn> jordan: Palestinian Liberation Front?
[08:49] <jordan> fgxn: penguin liberation front
[08:49] <fgxn> jordan: o.O
[08:49] <glatzor> avalon: I would not suggest to newly install the system without formating it before
[08:49] <fgxn> people have too much free time
[08:49] <avalon> I'll try that now weedar
[08:49] <kuja> Anyone know how to have movies playing perfectly in Xgl?
[08:50] <jordan> fgxn: repository for packages of questioable legality, like win32codecs
[08:50] <scamboy> scheuri: 5.10 to breezy....my documents, files...will i loose it??
[08:50] <glatzor> avalon: Boot using the desktop(live)-cd and backup your data
[08:50] <scamboy> or should i go to edgy? is it stable ?????
[08:50] <glatzor> kuja: you have to disable hardware overlay (xv)
[08:50] <kuja> And I can still get the effects of compiz?
[08:50] <scheuri> scamboy: 5.10 is breezy....actually...but you should not lose anything if you make an upgrade (and not a new install), but BACK IT UP anyway!
[08:51] <glatzor> kuja: disable xv in the media player :)
[08:51] <glatzor> kuja: run gstreamer-properties and choose x11
[08:51] <scamboy> scheuri: means download binary update to archive and not to cd right??
[08:51] <kuja> glatzor: Ah hm, what if I was using VLC?
[08:51] <morgue> weedar, when I runned  export CC=gcc-3.4 nothing happened
[08:51] <glatzor> then you have to refer to the manual
[08:52] <glatzor> kuja: look for changing the output plugin
[08:52] <kuja> Hm, okay.
[08:52] <scheuri> scamboy: yes...you log in to your machine and to a upgrade via internet and not downloading the CD and install from new...
[08:52] <andreasn> eek, I cant log into my system, gdm starts correct, but when I try to log in, it shows me a blank screen and restarts gdm
[08:52] <scheuri> scamboy: but still...make a backup of your data!!
[08:52] <andreasn> anyone else who had run into this?
[08:52] <weedar> morgue, nothing is supposed to happen, really. What you are doing when you run that command is tell the shell/konsole that the variable CC is set to the value "gcc-3.4"
[08:52] <scamboy> scheuri: thanks...where u frm? japan?
[08:52] <weedar> morgue, this variable (CC) tells scripts which compiler to use
[08:52] <glatzor> andreasn: add a new user and try this one
[08:52] <scheuri> scamboy: why? no...
[08:52] <morgue> weedar, how do i run quickcam.sh?
[08:53] <andreasn> glatzor: good idea.
[08:53] <morgue> I'm @ the directory where the file is
[08:53] <weedar> morgue, well you did download the drivers from the link, correct?
[08:53] <morgue> yes
[08:53] <morgue> extracted
[08:53] <glatzor> andreasn: perhaps your hard disc is full
[08:53] <jordan> morgue: ./quickcam.sh , use sudo if it needs it
[08:53] <scamboy> Scheuri: juz curious....there r linux users all over the world without read ads....hehehe
[08:53] <kuja> glatzor: Ah yes, maybe I can have VLC have output set as opengl
[08:54] <fgxn> Madpilot: What happened there?
[08:54] <scheuri> scamboy: without read ads? sorry...did not get that...however....backup your data and then modify your sources.list from whatever release you have to the next and make an "sudo aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade"
[08:54] <scamboy> IS IT POSSIBLE TO INSTAL A PROGRAM MANUAL? NOT FRM APT-GET...???
[08:54] <morgue> weedar, wuju!
[08:54] <Madpilot> fgxn, known ban-evader
[08:54] <andreasn> glatzor: hm, is the command for checking that in the console?
[08:54] <morgue> jordan, thanks
[08:54] <fgxn> Ah
[08:54] <morgue> it's working
[08:54] <morgue> omg
[08:54] <fgxn> scamboy: Sure
[08:54] <scheuri> scamboy: STOP SHOUTING
[08:55] <glatzor> andreasn: df -h
[08:55] <weedar> morgue, congratulations :)
[08:55] <andreasn> glatzor: ah, that seems to be it
[08:55] <glatzor> andreasn: apt-get clean
[08:55] <scheuri> morgue: ehmm...did you just happen to make a Logitech Webcam working?
[08:55] <scamboy> scheuri: u heard that sorry......ads? i mean without promoting as microsoft...hehehe
[08:55] <glatzor> andreasn: this removes all the packages from your local cache
[08:55] <kuja> Does anyone know of a gameboy emulator for Ubuntu that I can use to play ROMs (legal ones in the public domain)
[08:56] <morgue> scheuri, yeah
[08:56] <scheuri> morgue: care to share your knowledge?
[08:56] <scheuri> morgue: I have an old one at home which surely could be revived...
[08:56] <morgue> scheuri, I'll do my best
[08:56] <scamboy> fgxn: wat type of file does the setup need to be? exe? deb?tar?
[08:56] <weedar> scheuri: there is a howto for the quickcam messenger here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225&highlight=quickcam+messenger
[08:56] <morgue> sure, what webcam do you have?
[08:56] <crass> how do I set the default runlevel?
[08:57] <scheuri> weedar: thanks
[08:57] <scheuri> morgue: quite an old one actually...
[08:57] <avalon> Okay, reconfigured X, I get an error when x tries to start that reads ABI module doesn't match the servers version, module ATI not found. What to do now?
[08:58] <ikor> folks, is there any working sound editor that supports a mp3 files?
[08:58] <morgue> scheuri, my first option would be to try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[08:58] <scheuri> morgue: thanks...I just followed the link...I will try with that
[08:58] <jordan> ikor: Audacity
[08:58] <scamboy> ikor:audacity
[08:58] <scheuri> morgue: thanks a lot
[08:58] <andreasn> wohoo! seemed to do the trick!
[08:58] <andreasn> rock and roll!
[08:58] <ikor> thanks
[08:58] <morgue> scheuri, easycam2 does everything, you don't even need to download the drivers, if it's supported that is
[08:58] <crass> kuja: I see several: gngb, mednafen, xmess
[08:59] <scheuri> morgue: ah, okay...great
[08:59] <kuja> Thanks... I really need to have my Apt4r library complete so I can browse apt packages and download (including dependencies) on any system.
[08:59] <crass> so does anyone know anything about the boot process of ubuntu?
[08:59] <scamboy> crass: wat u mean??
[09:00] <ikor> Audacity gave 'Host error' on first launch. niiice..
[09:00] <avalon> gah.... why can't i just do something nice like set it to VESA and have it work? It returns a nice no screens found error STILL...
[09:00] <Unimatrix9> hi there
[09:00] <scamboy>  anyone using edgy??
[09:00] <crass> scamboy: I'm trying to find where to change the default runlevel (ie the one re go into from boot)
[09:00] <fgxn> scamboy: sure
[09:01] <crass> I'm using edgy
[09:01] <Unimatrix9> ordering cdroms via ship it, it does not get accepted, where could i get more info?
[09:01] <fgxn> crass: I was wondering about that as well. /etc/inittab is gone...
[09:01] <crass> fgxn: its not using upstart
[09:01] <CheetahMk4> I don't suppose anyone is still awake right now?
[09:01] <Unimatrix9> i am running out of ubuntu cdroms to distribute at local computer club...
[09:01] <scamboy>  crass: any good or special improvement???
[09:01] <crass> err, *now
[09:01] <scheuri> CheetahMk4: hey now there...sure we are awake
[09:01] <crass> scamboy: don't know since I didn't use the previous one much
[09:02] <scamboy> crass: hmn....
[09:02] <CheetahMk4> Heh, fellow geek-dom knows no timezone : ) I'll wait till someone is free. I was having a problem with my Xorg drivers, I think my AGP GART got buggered up.
[09:02] <crass> fgxn: see: http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/08/26/upstart-in-universe
[09:03] <scheuri> CheetahMk4: I am not too much into xorg, but...did you manually change the config-file?
[09:03] <Unimatrix9> i get This request was not approved, so no CDs were shipped. the whole time, any one else have the same problem?
[09:03] <crass> but the only way I can see of changing the default runlevel is in /etc/event.d/rc-default, but that is super hackish
[09:03] <morgue> weedar, sound recorder isn't picking up anything, I know the pic is wokring 'cause on skype I can use it, any ideas?
[09:03] <morgue> the mic*
[09:03] <scheuri> Unimatrix9: how many CDs did you order already?
[09:04] <scamboy> unumatrix9: maybe u request a lot...hehehe
[09:04] <Unimatrix9> scheuri, 20 and now ten
[09:04] <CheetahMk4> yeah. The problem is in windows too, so I think it is hardware related. Basically, whenever any type of 'DRI' happens, I get a BSOD with the ATI driver (WindowS) or just a black screen where there should be login (Ubuntu Edgy w/ 'Radeon' driver).
[09:04] <scheuri> Unimatrix9: I dont know, but maybe there is a "limit"?
[09:04] <Unimatrix9> the 20 i got, and distributed, the 10 not
[09:04] <fgxn> crass: You mean it *is* using upstart, not "it's not using upstart", right?
[09:04] <Unimatrix9> could be, do you know?
[09:04] <scamboy> unu: then location problem..
[09:05] <weedar> morgue, what microphone are you using, is there one built-in on the webcam?
[09:05] <scheuri> CheetahMk4: so you installed the binary from ati or are you using the opensource driver?
[09:05] <morgue> weedar, yes
[09:05] <Unimatrix9> if thats so, i am finished advocating ubuntu
[09:05] <ndowens> Unimatrix9: gah, u got alot out lol
[09:05] <crass> fgxn: yeah, I meant to say: "its _now_ using upstart"
[09:05] <scheuri> Unimatrix9: why?
[09:05] <weedar> Unimatrix9: buy some recordable CDs and make them yourself
[09:05] <Unimatrix9> no cdroms, no installs
[09:05] <CheetahMk4> scheuri: Open source, 'ati' 'radeon' FreedesktopDRI driver.
[09:05] <scamboy> Unimatrix: maybe u live out of the coverage..
[09:05] <crass> fgxn: can you msg me the contents of your /etc/event.d/rc-default
[09:05] <Unimatrix9> yes
[09:06] <crass> I think mine minght have gotten changed
[09:06] <scheuri> Unimatrix9: well, you cant blame canonical...I dont know how many "idiots" out there bought dozens for no reason
[09:06] <scheuri> CheetahMk4: oh, okay...well then...I am out of ideas...very sorry
[09:06] <kholerabbit> does metacity have any 3d effects?
[09:06] <scamboy> scheuri: i am 1 of it..hehehehe
[09:06] <CheetahMk4> no problem. I'll try asking in the beryl place.
[09:06] <scamboy> scheuri: but i distribute it for free..
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> its very populair where i distribute
[09:07] <fgxn> crass: uh...hold on, I have to register
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> thats for sure!
[09:07] <scheuri> Unimatrix9: well, asking those people to get them too? or others now using ubuntu to order them for you?
[09:07] <morgue> weedar, on volume control, on file ->  change device, I get 0: HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer), 1: Camera (Alsa Mixer) and 2: Generic 14f1 ID 5047 (OSS Mixer), I choose camera and try to record but nothing is recorded
[09:07] <crass> fgxn: you shouldn't have to register just to do a dcc chat or priv msg
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> fooling the system...
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> :)
[09:08] <fgxn> crass: You have to set a mode (+E?) to make it so I can message you without being registered
[09:08] <scheuri> Unimatrix9: well, not exactly...the limit (if there is one, though) is only to prevent one person to scam them....but if others are ordering too, there is no problem
[09:08] <crass> fgxn: hmm, didn't know that, thanks, it looks exactly like mine
[09:08] <Unimatrix9> i will consider all options, to get it going again
[09:09] <weedar> morgue: hm, I can't seem to find anything on the 'Net about that microphone...does it use a separate cable?
[09:09] <jordan> Unimatrix9: If you explain to them they will probably be fine.
[09:09] <Neocortex> Hi ALL, does anyone has experience with synce? I need an explanation and help, if possible ...
[09:09] <crass> fgxn: I'm having an issue where its booting into runlevel 2 (no gdm/X), but I want to to boot into 3-5, like it normally does on installl
[09:09] <Unimatrix9> ok, i will do that...
[09:09] <scamboy> unimatrix9: u can always download n burn.....takes some 3 hours on lan hahahahaa
[09:09] <morgue> weedar, no, it's built-in, but as i said, on skype it works perfectly, i just can't get sound recorder to record a thing
[09:10] <jordan> Unimatrix9: I am kind of pissed off at a friend who ordered 500 claiming he was a school principle, he used them as frizbees, I stole and distributed them :)
[09:10] <scamboy> morgue: i think driver problem...or app problem..
[09:10] <Unimatrix9> yes, well i am thinking of setting up an ubuntu toaster, a pc, where you can burn your own ubuntu iso
[09:10] <weedar> morgue: I have a separate usb microhpone myself, I had trouble using it for anything else than skype
[09:10] <scheuri> jordan: I, for one, thank you!
[09:10] <fgxn> crass: Did you poke around in /etc/rc2? Because I had to manually remove /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[09:10] <Unimatrix9> jordan where do you live?
[09:10] <jordan> Unimatrix9: California
[09:10] <Unimatrix9> ha, thats not around the corner, to bad..
[09:11] <fgxn> crass: Based on that thing I just sent you, it looks like if you create a classic /etc/inittab, it will honor that
[09:11] <Unimatrix9> i live in the netherlands
[09:11] <Unimatrix9> :)
[09:11] <kholerabbit> edgy doesn't seem to have beagle.. didn't dapper have it by default?
[09:11] <morgue> scamboy, if it were a driver problem don't you think it wouldn't work on skype?
[09:11] <Neocortex> Hi ALL, does anyone has experience with synce? I need an explanation and help, if possible ...
[09:11] <jordan> Unimatrix9: They are breezyCD's anyways, it was a while ago.
[09:11] <crass> fgxn: yeah, but I'm trying to avoid that, since its depreciated
[09:11] <scheuri> kholerabbit: try packages.ubuntu.com and search there
[09:11] <morgue> weedar, so what should i try?
[09:11] <scheuri> kholerabbit: maybe you are missing a repository
[09:11] <Unimatrix9> i used LTS 6.06 for distribution
[09:11] <scamboy> morgue: i juz guess...
[09:11] <Unimatrix9> wich was nice, ...
[09:12] <morgue> scamboy, hehe kk
[09:12] <crass> fgxn: why did you have to remove gdm from rc2?
[09:12] <amir> Hi guys
[09:12] <Unimatrix9> ok, well thanx for the advise, i am off to get a thea
[09:12] <Unimatrix9> byebye
[09:12] <Unimatrix9> :)
[09:12] <jordan> Unimatrix9: Do you just give them to friends or at conventions?
[09:12] <ndowens> hi amir
[09:13] <crass> fgxn: did you not want it to boot to gdm/X?
[09:13] <Unimatrix9> at local computerclubs, i hand them out and give soppurt
[09:13] <Unimatrix9> support
[09:13] <amir> Any one please help? How can I get linux to see my wireless device?
[09:13] <weedar> morgue, could you try running "lsmod | grep snd_usb_audio" and tell me if you get any output?
[09:13] <amir> kubuntu actually
[09:13] <fgxn> crass: No, I don't.
[09:13] <Unimatrix9> there are 3.700 members, most windows, some linux
[09:13] <fgxn> crass: I rarely use X
[09:13] <Unimatrix9> any way got to run...
[09:13] <Unimatrix9> bye bye
[09:13] <Unimatrix9> ;)
[09:13] <jordan> Unimatrix9: bye.
[09:13] <weedar> amir, what wireless device?
[09:14] <Badkitty> !wireless
[09:14] <morgue> weedar, how can i paste this i don't wanna flood the channel
[09:14] <amir> broadcom 4318
[09:14] <jordan> !paste
[09:14] <crass> fgxn:is it a server?
[09:14] <ndowens> morgue: pastebin
[09:14] <fgxn> crass: No
[09:14] <ndowens> amir: u have to get ndiswrapper i think for broadcom
[09:14] <Badkitty> ubotu isn't working?
[09:14] <jordan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:14] <fgxn> crass: I'm just addicted to console.
[09:14] <scamboy> amir: bluetooth? wifi?
[09:14] <eSeong> !wireless
[09:14] <eSeong> wifi
[09:14] <scheuri> the bot is dead...
[09:14] <crass> fgxn: haha, yeah me too, but I use X so I can see more consoles at once, and more quickly
[09:15] <amir> ndowens: how do I get the ndiswrapper? I get it through adept right?
[09:15] <jordan> I think Ubutu is on the other side of the split.
[09:15] <jordan> *ubotu
[09:15] <Badkitty> the split?
[09:15] <morgue> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29843/
[09:15] <morgue> weedar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29843/
[09:15] <fgxn> crass: I've never found an xterm that I'm really happy with, and screen(1) works so well...
[09:15] <ndowens> amir: it may be in apt-get try apt-get install ndiswrapper to see
[09:15] <mooky> evening guys
[09:15] <eSeong> ndowens : not found..
[09:15] <ndowens> hmm hold
[09:16] <Badkitty> You should be able to google it too
[09:16] <eSeong> for the previous version 5.02 below not found which i have been trying..
[09:16] <amir> ndowens: invalid operation ndiswrapper
[09:16] <Badkitty> Which card are you trying to use
[09:16] <eSeong> Im trying with my stupid dwl-122 doenst work
[09:16] <eSeong> Im here to see what solution can be gather more =.=!
[09:16] <ndowens> amir: invalid operation
[09:16] <ndowens> weird hold on a sec amir
[09:17] <jordan> amir: Have you tried anything other than nidis, it should really be a last resort.
[09:17] <Badkitty> Anyone happen to have the wiki link for wireless
[09:17] <crass> fgxn: yeah, screen is essential, but I like some of the things that aren't as nice (to me) in the term, like web browsing and watching videos (and I prefer gui mail clients also)
[09:17] <mooky> I'm looking for some advice on why my desktop which is using dhcp is getting name server information on each dhcp request even though dhcp.conf is not configured to ask for name server updates
[09:18] <amir> jordan: I have sorta, I have checked through tons of forum posts, wikis, and websites Nothing seems to help me with my prediciment. I even emailed a professor at my university who knows linux to help and he never responded
[09:18] <crass> also, I never got used to developing in the shell, I prefer gui syntax highlighing editors
[09:18] <fgxn> crass: I don't use computers much for non-programming. I work about 18 hours per day, so when I can get away from it, I run as far and as fast as I can in the opposite direction.
[09:18] <jordan> amir: What kind of card is it?
[09:18] <crass> fgxn: what do you program?
[09:18] <amir> broadcom 4318
[09:19] <fgxn> crass: Mostly python these days. A lot of C in the distant past, with PHP wedged in the middle.
[09:19] <Badkitty> Amir... they have ndiswrapper for that card with an installation script
[09:19] <jordan> amir: That you should definately be able to get to work without NDIS.
[09:19] <eSeong> amir : i thought card would be easily being found inside ubuntu.
[09:19] <amir> ah! badkitty: where can I find this information so this can finally work
[09:19] <eSeong> Unless u are using usb/etc..
[09:19] <ndowens> amir: what broadcom model was it again?
[09:19] <crass> yeah, I do mostly python these days too, I fell in love with the lang, and do the occaional C/C++
[09:19] <amir> ndowens 4318
[09:19] <Badkitty> Amir: Are you using edgy?
[09:19] <ndowens> ah
[09:20] <amir> kubuntu right now
[09:20] <amir> and edgy
[09:20] <amir> they are both on
[09:20] <morgue> weedar
[09:20] <crass> fgxn: what programs do you use to develop python with?
[09:20] <DigitalNinja> How do I turn off agpgart?
[09:20] <Badkitty> oic... ok well is it i386 or 64bit?
[09:20] <amir> i386
[09:20] <morgue> Do you think I could get MVP 2005 running on ubuntu?
[09:20] <ndowens> amir: search apt for ndis and see what it brings up
[09:21] <ndowens> i think it could be apt-get install ndis
[09:21] <fgxn> crass: Just emacs
[09:21] <Hoagie> Hi. I've tried two different Dapper CDs, and a Hoary CD, and I can't get either to boot at startup. I've got the boot priorities set to CD drive in the BIOS. Any ideas?
[09:21] <Badkitty> I have the files he needs with a script
[09:21] <fgxn> crass: With python-mode, of course
[09:21] <jordan> ndowens: I don't think he needs NDIS.
[09:21] <weedar> morgue, I am a bit unsure what to do with the microphone, it seems your set-up is correct. only other thing I can think of is to click the "mute" button to se if it is muted after-all
[09:21] <weedar> morgue, what is mvp 2005?
[09:21] <ndowens> amir: i was in some other channel talking about a laptop and they said it had broadcom card and they said ndiswrapper works
[09:22] <crass> right, I never could bring myself to sit down and learn either of emacs or vim, but at least I know how to exit and save in emacs
[09:22] <morgue> weedar, EA Sposrts baseball game
[09:22] <ndowens> jordon ^
[09:22] <Badkitty> Hoagie.. hmm that is strange. i've not had any problems.. could be a cd-rom issue?
[09:22] <Badkitty> amir?
[09:22] <amir> ndiswrapper-source came up as not installed, as well as ndiswrapper-utils,1.8 not installed
[09:22] <Badkitty> amir.. I have the files you seek man
[09:22] <Hoagie> Badkitty: If you mean the drive, maybe... It normally whirs like mad, but I can get programs off the disks just fine in windows.
[09:22] <amir> ndowens: there is another type of broadcom card, its a 43xx but diff extension
[09:22] <jordan> ndowens: I personally think NDIS wrapper is a hack, and any braodcom card should work, he just needs firmware.
[09:22] <amir> badkitty: please help me
[09:23] <Badkitty> Amir: is your system i386 or 64-bit?
[09:23] <amir> jordan: anything that gets my wireless up
[09:23] <jordan> amir: Let me get a link to some firmware that
[09:23] <amir> badkitty: i386
[09:23] <morgue> weedar, yeah the mute button is working, just tried it
[09:23] <jordan> amir: Let me get a link to some firmware that might get it working.
[09:23] <amir> jordan: great man thank you
[09:23] <Badkitty> ok I can send it via E-mail
[09:23] <ndowens> amir:  try installing the first coice or ndiswrapper
[09:23] <weedar> morgue, ok you tried it in skype I assume?
[09:23] <ndowens> i think according to a forum all u have to do after is modprobe ndiswrapper or something
[09:24] <ndowens> and it would work
[09:24] <morgue> weedar, yes
[09:24] <amir> and the fact that I cant watch videos on abum in my web browser isnt helping to alleviate the pressure
[09:24] <Badkitty> Try Jordans thing first, and if that doesn't work i have the package ready to go for you with ndiswrapper
[09:24] <amir> badkitty, can you PM me?
[09:24] <Badkitty> Hoagy,. are you sure you burned the file as a bootable iso?
[09:24] <jordan> ndowens: No, NDIS requires setting up the windows drivers also ( I am pretty sure at least )
[09:24] <weedar> morgue, I am actually out of ideas here - as I said I had issues myself with my usb microphone..
[09:24] <Badkitty> I think that could be the problem
[09:25] <atarinox> has anyone else had problems with flash working in firefox 2.0?
[09:25] <atarinox> in 6.10
[09:25] <ndowens> jordan: i have never experienced ndiswrapper bt i am just trying to bring ideas
[09:25] <Hoagie> Badkitty: I got all my CDs from ship-it
[09:25] <crass> atarinox: what problems? I've had none
[09:25] <ndowens> jordan: i like trying to help
[09:25] <atarinox> crashes everytime i load a page with flash
[09:25] <weedar> morgue, you might want to read http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=USB_mic_on_Linux
[09:25] <ndowens> hey Kristy
[09:25] <Badkitty> Amir: I can't Pm cause I haven't registered
[09:25] <Kristy> heya
[09:26] <Badkitty> Can u PM me?
[09:26] <ndowens> Kristy: busy eh?
[09:26] <weedar> morgue, I have to do some work atm, I'll check in and see how you're doing in a while :)
[09:26] <atarinox> ive tried the 9.0 beta plugin, and the stabe 7r68
[09:26] <jordan> amir: Download and unzip this to your desktop ( double click it ) http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip
[09:26] <Hoagie> Badkitty: I've run outta time, and I've gotta dash. Thanks for the help. :)
[09:26] <amir> neither have I badkitty
[09:26] <morgue> weedar, :)
[09:26] <ndowens> Kristy: it's cool really
[09:26] <morgue> weedar, i'm going to bed in a bit
[09:26] <morgue> weedar, thx anyway
[09:26] <crass> atarinox: I've been using the 7r68 with no problems, have you tried different flash files?
[09:26] <Kristy> nah not busy not that i know of anyhow
[09:26] <InvisiblePinkUni> where is ubotu?
[09:27] <eSeong> can anyone rate this program ?
[09:27] <eSeong> automatix
[09:27] <atarinox> no...i tried the repository that's it
[09:27] <ndowens> Kristy: last time i looked there were 900 somethings users lol
[09:27] <atarinox> what files are you using?
[09:27] <Badkitty> I have an idea.. why don't you set up a spambox and I will send it to there
[09:27] <Kristy> oh nm i misread what you said lol
[09:27] <atarinox> or are you talking about different flash sites?
[09:27] <ndowens> Kristy: lol
[09:27] <amir> Jordan or ndowens, have you been able to find anything?
[09:27] <atarinox> b/c yeah ive tried several
[09:27] <jordan> amir: Download and unzip this to your desktop ( double click it ) http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip
[09:28] <crass> atarinox: I thought you were talking about some flash sites you were going to, I didn't know there were some in the repository
[09:28] <ndowens> amir: try searching forums for ndiswrapper, jordon don't jump me, just trying to help
[09:28] <crass> I've just tried stuff like youtube
[09:28] <Badkitty> Amir: I have your ndiswrapper
[09:28] <Badkitty> IF you need it
[09:28] <ndowens> Kristy: this may be ur family eventually :-)
[09:28] <unclekev> Hi Everyone. What is the Kernel i should be using witha Pentium D Dual Core, Is it the smp one?
[09:28] <Kristy> lol scary
[09:29] <ndowens> Kristy: a lot of bros and sis
[09:29] <ndowens> heh
[09:29] <ndowens> unclekev: doesn't matter as long as it's smp
[09:29] <jordan> amir then run: sudo cp ~/Desktop/firmware/bcm* /lib/firmware
[09:30] <atarinox> crass: yeah youtube crashes on me...
[09:30] <Commander-Crowe> I installed beryl using this
[09:30] <Commander-Crowe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[09:30] <ndowens> Kristy: gives u more ppl to talk to as well
[09:30] <Commander-Crowe> yet I don't know how to start it up
[09:30] <amir> alright jordan, I have it on my desktop and extracted
[09:30] <Commander-Crowe> or change the them in Emerald There
[09:30] <Commander-Crowe> Themer*
[09:30] <amir> jordan, oops, I will do the command
[09:31] <jordan> amir run: sudo cp ~/Desktop/firmware/bcm* /lib/firmware
[09:31] <Kristy> true
[09:31] <scamboy> how to improve ubuntu gui? any software???
[09:31] <jordan> scamboy: Improve in what way?
[09:31] <ndowens> Kristy: ppl windows don't have thjis kind of fun with pcs as linux users
[09:31] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[09:31] <crass> atarinox: have you tried running in debug mode and seeing what you get? or look at the backtrace?
[09:31] <InvisiblePinkUni> scamboy: Ctrl + Alt + F1
[09:31] <eSeong> once i install ndiswrapper finish, my wireless still can't working.
[09:31] <InvisiblePinkUni> :D
[09:31] <eSeong> any solution with that ?
[09:31] <mooky> Commander-Crowe join #ubuntu-xgl
[09:32] <scamboy>  jordan:gui....so less command
[09:32] <atarinox> crass: ...no i'm not sure how i'd go about running in debug mode
[09:32] <Commander-Crowe> mooky
[09:32] <Kristy> hmmm guess i will have to see wont i
[09:32] <Commander-Crowe> no one answered me
[09:32] <scamboy>  invisible: wat is it about?
[09:32] <ndowens> Kristy: have u seen pete lately
[09:32] <mooky> Commander-Crowe thats the best place to ask
[09:32] <mooky> its the proper support channel
[09:32] <Kristy> hes actually in the states right now
[09:33] <ndowens> Kristy: ah cool, has he been online
[09:33] <InvisiblePinkUni> scamboy: Ctrl + Alt + F1 try it out. But remember Ctrl + Alt + F7 to get you back....
[09:33] <niktaris> hi, can I show my hdd automatically on the desktop in gnome 2.16 ? Can I tell gnome to start sorting the icons starting from right ?
[09:33] <amir> jordan, I was supposed to unzip the folder correct?
[09:33] <unclekev> What kernel should i be using if i have a pentium D dual core, is it the smp one ???
[09:33] <jordan> amir: yup, to the desktop.
[09:33] <scamboy> invisible: thanks friend..
[09:33] <Kristy> dunno havent even looked
[09:33] <amir> it unzips a ton of singular files
[09:33] <ndowens> unclekev: any linux kernel will work, just have to configure smp in
[09:33] <ndowens> Kristy: ah
[09:34] <unclekev> ndowens: thanks dude, appreciate it :)
[09:34] <jordan> amir: They are all be in a folder called firmware though right?
[09:34] <crass> atarinox: it looks like if you start with the -g or -debug option it will run in a debugger
[09:35] <amir> I am entering the command, but nothing is coming up, jordan
[09:35] <amir> jordan: it is just showing the next line
[09:35] <jordan> amir: Thats Ok, there shouldn't be any output.
[09:36] <amir> jordan: oops alright then. I did that
[09:36] <amir> jordan: whats next?
[09:36] <Commander-Crowe> yeah no one in ubuntu-xgl will answer me
[09:36] <atarinox> crass: you mean in the terminal: firefox -d
[09:36] <mooky> Commander-Crowe then wait
[09:36] <atarinox> doesnt seem to give me anything..unless it's logging somewhere
[09:36] <jordan> amir: OK, now try: sudo modprobe bcm43xx and if that doesn't work restart.
[09:36] <mooky> ubuntu-xgl is the correct palce
[09:36] <mooky> place
[09:37] <amir> I entered it, there was no output
[09:37] <amir> jordan: I entered it, no output
[09:37] <jordan> amir: that is OK, try connecting.
[09:37] <crass> atarinox: no, firefox -g or firefox -debug
[09:37] <amir> jordan: what wireless manager should I use to connect?
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> Q: i'm trying to erase the ubuntu partition on my ppc laptop...which partitions should i leave alone (ie. the OSX side) ?
[09:38] <jordan> amir: network-admin
[09:38] <atarinox> crass: /usr/bin/firefox: line 163: gdb: command not found
[09:38] <atarinox> crass: same message with -g and -debug
[09:38] <amir> jordan: is network admin under system?
[09:38] <nicholaspaul> i know that 6 is the linux one, 7 the swap...but what about an hfs labelled 'external boot' ?
[09:38] <jordan> amir: Oh, never mind, that is for gnome.
[09:38] <crass> atarinox: yeah, that means you don't have the gnu debugger on your system
[09:39] <amir> jordan: you are a genius. the network settings has found a wireless card
[09:39] <Schalken> is there a way to change ubuntu to/form kubuntu without reinstalling?
[09:39] <tlex> oh
[09:39] <tlex> oh year!~!!!
[09:39] <Cimi> Schalken, install kubuntu-artwork and something similar
[09:39] <tlex>
[09:39] <tlex>
[09:40] <Badkitty> Nicholaspaul hmmm.. not sure haven't seen that before.. There should just be two drives the / and the swap
[09:40] <jordan> amir: Look in the KDE menu, I think the application has wireless in the name ( again I don't use KDE often )
[09:40] <tlex>
[09:40] <hrach> please i couldnt find the answer in google what does it mean this:  cdrom confused;  try booting with the irqpoll option
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> Badkitty: so dya think OSX is only using the hfs labelled Appl_HFS?
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> (or Apple_HFS)
[09:40] <crass> atarinox: when I said debug mode, I didn't mean a verbose mode, where it would print out debug output, but in debug mode it allows you to debug the program on an abnomal exit
[09:40] <jordan> amir: You don't have network-admin because you have kubuntu, you have something else and I don't remember the name.
[09:41] <Elive_user60> Does ubuntu Edgy support passwordless resume from hibernate?
[09:41] <kholerabbit> should I install "Search" or "Kerry Beagle"?
[09:41] <Badkitty> Im not sure about OSX I have never ran it. But if your partitioning or formatting.. there should just be the two linux drives. What exactly are you doing again?
[09:41] <eSeong>
[09:42] <nicholaspaul> Badkitty: reformatting the linux drives for OSX
[09:42] <Bonez56> hi all, i have an ibm 300 series server. i have installed ubuntu and brought up eth0, assigned it an IP address etc, however, it when I try to ping another machine on the LAN it says: Reply from "insert IP of the ubuntu server - ie, itself" - Destination Host Unreachable. Can anyone help?
[09:42] <nicholaspaul> Badkitty: or rather, erasing that partition.
[09:42] <Flannel> tlex: /join #ubuntu-ch
[09:42] <Elive_user60> anybody tried hibernate under edgy?
[09:42] <mooky> Bonez56 is your routing ok
[09:42] <crass> Bonez56: that usually means that you don't have the netmask correct (ie you're on a different ip network)
[09:42] <Badkitty> Got ya.. You killing linux eh?
[09:43] <mooky> Elive_user60 you asked less than 60 seconds ago - wait for an answer, there is enough noise in this channel
[09:43] <ndowens> Bonez56: check to see if u have dns configured /etc/resolv.conf
[09:43] <nicholaspaul> Badkitty: just on my Powerbook. I'm keeping it on everything else :)