[08:17] <fiendskull9> redwolf, got everything running nice, but its sucking 300 mb of ram, yikes.
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> mikebot: ooor, a text formatting language.
[08:17] <intelikey> i guess
[08:17] <patrick522> what does that give me Fyrestrtr
[08:18] <intelikey> bout all you get out of the bot anymore is
[08:18] <mikebot> someone told me to use latex, so i got it, and someone else said i had to use somethign like emacs for latex to work
[08:18] <intelikey> !botsnack
[08:18] <ubotu> thanks intelikey :)
[08:18] <mikebot> but i still don't know what it is
[08:18] <frantic> i especially like the up to date mono packages.  I wrote some software for mono on another distro and it didn't work on the old out of date mono of breezy badger
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> mikebot: what are you trying to do?
[08:18] <patrick522> Fyrestrtr: what does that give me
[08:19] <mikebot> fyrestrtr, write stuff with symbols not avaliable in open office
[08:19] <intelikey> mikebot man  is  ya friend    man latex
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: dreamweaver, but without the whine of wine.
[08:19] <patrick522> ok
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> mikebot: don't you just need to change the character set? what symbols are you trying to write/
[08:19] <mikebot> fyrestrtr, logical operators not in open office
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> like what?
[08:20] <mikebot> like the slashed out turnstile
[08:21] <fiendskull9> !java
[08:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:21] <fiendskull9> i think im gonna reinstall ubuntu tonight
[08:21] <fiendskull9> lol
[08:21] <fiendskull9> ive done so much shit to it
[08:21] <fiendskull9> its out of wack
[08:22] <intelikey> yeah i reload twice a weak whether i need to or not.
[08:22] <intelikey> heh
[08:22] <IzeyJr> okies got the codecs put in the desired dir but mplayer still doesn't play wm streams any ideas?
[08:22] <patrick522> is there any good programmes i should get for ubuntu
[08:22] <intelikey> patrick522 the ones in the repos
[08:22] <intelikey> !repos
[08:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:22] <mikebot> alright, well, i'm off
[08:22] <patrick522> Izeyjr: i have that prob
[08:23] <dj-fu> mplayer plays wmv files for me, with the w32codecs package
[08:23] <mikebot> night all
[08:23] <dj-fu> !restrictedformats
[08:23] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:23] <vskye> patrick522: check out http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/
[08:23] <patrick522> cheers
[08:24] <IzeyJr> patririck522: yeah its a tough one to figure out
[08:24] <intelikey> claps
[08:24] <wine_> i run $sudo pppoeconf
[08:25] <patrick522> got music and other stuff just not wm streams
[08:25] <netsui> how would I be able to use S-video out on ubuntu?
[08:25] <IzeyJr> patrick522: I did get it to play avi's so I'm guessing it found the codecs not sure though
[08:25] <wine_> when the wizard ask me, if i want to start conection at boot time, my answer is YES..
[08:25] <wine_> BUT, it doesn't work
[08:25] <patrick522> welll we will have to keep trying
[08:26] <benplaut> what are ya'll's favorite screenshot sites? not for hosting mine, but for looking at others
[08:26] <benplaut> i need inspiration
[08:26] <wine_> inspiration = pot
[08:26] <wine_> :P
[08:26] <IzeyJr> I'm thinking about doin a source install and see if that does the trick but I am goin to finish watching the show first
[08:26] <intelikey> if you poke to much smot you will piss smell your words
[08:27] <IamEthos> Wine doesn't give me access to NTFS file systems does it?
[08:27] <intelikey> IamEthos no
[08:27] <IamEthos> also, I suppose there's no way to convert a file system, is there?
[08:28] <IamEthos> like from NTFS to Ext3
[08:28] <IamEthos> without destroying data
[08:28] <intelikey> non-destructive conversion   hehhe no
[08:28] <IamEthos> lol, I can dream, can't I?
[08:28] <intelikey> looks like it
[08:28] <IamEthos> intelikey: do you happen to know how I can disable my touchpad?
[08:28] <IamEthos> (i'm using a laptop
[08:29] <Phlosten> IamEthos, if you can create a way you will be very popular
[08:29] <IamEthos> but I find that I accidentally press it while typing too much
[08:29] <dragoon> IamEthos: unplug it :p
[08:29] <dragoon> thats what i did on my vaio
[08:29] <intelikey> no only lappy i have has a ball point    and it's loaned out.   sorry
[08:29] <IamEthos> :-(
[08:29] <IzeyJr> hey is there a dictioinary for command line terms any where out on the net?
[08:29] <Seveas> !cli
[08:29] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:30] <Seveas> IzeyJr, --^
[08:30] <IzeyJr> lol
[08:30] <patrick522> Fyrestrtr: it finished what do i do now
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: what is finished?
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> IzeyJr: http://www.tldp.org
[08:30] <intelikey> linux command dot orgee    hmmmm
[08:30] <patrick522> Fyrestrtr: the dreamweaver sudo command you gave me
[08:30] <IzeyJr> okies thanks
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: now run nvu
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> Applications --> Internet --> Nvu
[08:31] <patrick522> and thats dreamweaver
[08:31] <patrick522> it looks like it
[08:31] <intelikey> IzeyJr one at ts.siliosoft.org too
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> closest thing you can get without installing wine.
[08:32] <patrick522> okz
[08:32] <IzeyJr> okies thanks
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> IamEthos: you can always copy it.
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> but you can't convert.
[08:33] <IzeyJr> too bad I can't do a zoom out on the browser so I can fit it in with the xchat and mplayer lol
[08:34] <patrick522> right can i make hda5 writable
[08:34] <patrick522> as it has my windows stuff on
[08:34] <kingspwned> patrick522, is it ntfs?
[08:34] <intelikey> ntfs ?
[08:34] <patrick522> yep it is ntfs
[08:34] <kingspwned> then dont :)
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: if you like your data to be there, then don't make it writeable.
[08:34] <patrick522> ok
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> what do you need to do anyway?
[08:34] <intelikey> not officially.   it can be done but you prolly don't wanna
[08:35] <patrick522> i was just gona make it a storage for both window and ubuntu
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: then create a partition that's FAT32
[08:35] <patrick522> but i will leave i might be getting rid of windows anyway
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> linux can write to that without problems.
[08:35] <dj-fu> IamEthos, you can disable your touchpad by commenting out the section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:35] <dj-fu> alternatively, your keyboard may have an accelerator key to disable it
[08:36] <dj-fu> mine is Fn+F7, for example.
[08:36] <dj-fu> Sorry for the delayed response, was in another window.
[08:36] <patrick522> ubuntu is the best os i had since redhat. so im getting rid of windows tonight for good i hope
[08:36] <intelikey> yep FAT is yo friend for da bull doot  folks
[08:37] <IamEthos> how do I comment?
[08:37] <IamEthos> pound signs?
[08:37] <intelikey> #
[08:37] <IamEthos> apostrophes?
[08:37] <IamEthos> k
[08:38] <ic56> on public -
[08:38] <kingspwned> depends on what you're commenting, i would think
[08:38] <negit> new to Ubuntu and linux in general, looking for a way to check system specs
[08:38] <IamEthos> will this take effect with my next boot?
[08:38] <intelikey> IamEthos there are configs that use other comment chars   you should check the specific   but that is the most common comment
[08:38] <ic56> watch Phleagor:#debian
[08:38] <IamEthos> it's all pounds at the top
[08:38] <kingspwned> negit, you could have a look in /proc, some files there tell you a little bit about your system
[08:39] <IamEthos> so I'll assume that that's what it is all the way though
[08:39] <intelikey> what is that xorg.conf  yeah it's  #
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> negit: specs like what?
[08:39] <Seveas> !help
[08:39] <Seveas> @help
[08:39] <Ubugtu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[08:39] <IamEthos> I'm a new linux user
[08:39] <negit> kingspwned, thanks ill look........ fyrestrtr , like cpu, mem, hd space, etc
[08:39] <kingspwned> negit: looking at the logs in /var/log can also teach you alot
[08:40] <kingspwned> negit hd space: df -h
[08:40] <intelikey> two bots.... you dirty rascle    :))
[08:40] <IamEthos> but so far my favorite thing about it is how... exact things can be explained
[08:40] <woland_> hi guys. how reliable is upgrading releases using apt? can i do so succesfully or is it best to download the latest image?
[08:40] <IamEthos> in Windows you have to rely on a GUI
[08:40] <IamEthos> which isn't always the same
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> negit: if you want a nice display of that, there are few options. You can get something like gkrellm (a system status monitor)
[08:41] <IamEthos> and even when it is, you still can run into trouble describing things
[08:41] <frank23> negit: I don't know about gnome but in kde there is KInfoCenter
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> negit: or, you can install phpsysinfo (a web application that shows you similar information)
[08:41] <IamEthos> in linux, the terminal is used and you can do most things from a terminal
[08:41] <intelikey> woland_ better to use the install cd judjing from the errors i'v seen in here.
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> negit: or, you can use any number of the watchers to the gnome panel.
[08:41] <kingspwned> woland_, personally i'd rather get the images, but people say it works out nicely
[08:41] <negit> meh, was hoping there was something internal :-/
[08:41] <kingspwned> (most of the time... :)
[08:41] <woland_> negit, ps, top, vmstat. /proc/cpuinfo
[08:42] <IamEthos> saying "type this at a terminal" is a lot more reliable than "look for the little blue button, then click that and look for the red button...."
[08:42] <dj-fu> negit, there is an Applet in the gnome-panel which does what you wants
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> negit: Applications --> System Tools --> System Monitor
[08:42] <kingspwned> IamEthos, true :)
[08:42] <patrick522> why cant i play .wmv files
[08:42] <dj-fu> system monitor.
[08:42] <dj-fu> patrick522, It's a restricted format, see this link
[08:42] <dj-fu> !restrictedformats
[08:42] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:42] <kingspwned> patrick522, because its a format straight outta hell
[08:42] <dj-fu> install the w32codecs package, that'll help.
[08:42] <kingspwned> almost as bad as .mov
[08:42] <IamEthos> I wish I had a second computer
[08:42] <intelikey> IamEthos you just don't get the whole ubuntu concept do you ????
[08:42] <dj-fu> and then convert it to a friendly format asap ;]
[08:43] <intelikey> :)
[08:43] <kingspwned> haha, indeed
[08:43] <IamEthos> intelikey?
[08:43] <IamEthos> what concept?
[08:43] <intelikey> "linux for human beinfs"
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> somehow I don't think he means lets hold hands and stand around in a circle ala the logo of ubuntu -- concept.
[08:43] <IamEthos> oh
[08:44] <woland_> "linux for the mentally challeneged"
[08:44] <kingspwned> hahah
[08:44] <mark105> i need a howto on installing a smp kernel as i just added a cpu to my sustem
[08:44] <IamEthos> yeah, that's what I was saying, basically
[08:44] <negit> where i really expected to find all this system information, was in System>>>Administration>>>Device Manager, but it shows everything but the hard drive, as Unknown
[08:44] <intelikey> oh sorry."linux for human beens"
[08:44] <woland_> mark105, install kernel sources and compile in SMP support
[08:44] <kingspwned> if you expect to run any linux distro without going into a terminal, its going to be tough
[08:44] <intelikey> no that's not it either
[08:44] <IamEthos> no, no,
[08:44] <IamEthos> I LIKE the terminal
[08:44] <Chanchao> Oh no, not the slogan again...
[08:45] <IamEthos> I think there should be more terminal
[08:45] <IamEthos> I'm all about the terminal
[08:45] <intelikey> well it some kind of vegi
[08:45] <mark105> woland_: there is no kernel with smp support already?
[08:45] <kingspwned> IamEthos, i am talking to intelikey, i thnk :)
[08:45] <IzeyJr> dj-fu: I installed the win32 codecs and still get errors on streaming : well I didn't install the instructions were to make and copy the files to a dir
[08:45] <IamEthos> oh
[08:45] <frank23> woland_: mark105: no just install the smp kernel in synaptic
[08:45] <Chanchao> There's a new wiki page to submit a new slogan.
[08:45] <woland_> mark105, who knows. i'm a roll your own kinda guy
[08:45] <IamEthos> GUIs are great for doing stuff you know how to do, I think
[08:45] <IamEthos> Terminals are good for learning to do stuff
[08:45] <mark105> whats synaptic?
[08:45] <IamEthos> or complex tasks
[08:45] <dj-fu> jesus
[08:45] <dj-fu> learn to read.
[08:46] <IamEthos> less mouse movements
[08:46] <dj-fu> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:46] <frank23> !tell mark105 about synaptic
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> mark105: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[08:46] <dj-fu> how hard is that ;|
[08:46] <kingspwned> haha
[08:46] <Chanchao> hard.
[08:46] <Frogzoo> mark105: try this: linux-image-686-smp
[08:46] <dj-fu> Chanchao, I like 'Ubuntu - Free your mind.'
[08:46] <IzeyJr> lol sorry reading a webpage and watching a movie just happen to catch your last enteriy my bad
[08:46] <intelikey> IamEthos or you could do a  sudo apt-get -P remove xserver-xorg   and go commando   :)
[08:46] <dj-fu> there've been quite a few suggestions to that particular bounty
[08:47] <kingspwned> intelikey,only true way
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> Ububtu - Free Yourself
[08:47] <dj-fu> Ubuntu - Hax the gibson
[08:47] <dj-fu> :X
[08:47] <woland_> "ubuntu - mouse operated since 2003"
[08:47] <Chanchao> :)  Looking for the URL of the slogan-wiki page.
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> lol
[08:47] <IamEthos> can you run things like Gaim and FF from a terminal?
[08:47] <dj-fu> it's on launchpad.net, Chanchao - under bounties
[08:47] <mark105> frank23: can run synaptic no gui, this is a server
[08:47] <kingspwned> woland_, you almost sound "gui bitter" :)
[08:47] <negit> woland_, that worked great :D
[08:47] <dj-fu> IamEthos, you can start them from a terminal
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> IamEthos: sure, you can launch them from there.
[08:48] <dj-fu> ^^
[08:48] <negit> heres what i was looking for.........
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> mark105: apt-get :)
[08:48] <negit> processor	: 0
[08:48] <negit> vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
[08:48] <negit> cpu family	: 15
[08:48] <negit> model		: 2
[08:48] <negit> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz
[08:48] <negit> stepping	: 4
[08:48] <negit> cpu MHz		: 2692.389
[08:48] <negit> cache size	: 512 KB
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> oh god
[08:48] <dj-fu> !flood
[08:48] <ubotu> flood is probably for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[08:48] <negit> :p
[08:48] <Frogzoo> negit: pastebin please
[08:48] <intelikey> IamEthos bitchx links and wget
[08:48] <frank23> mark105: sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[08:48] <Madpilot> negit, pastebin!
[08:48] <IamEthos> but if I was "going commando" how could they run without a GUI?
[08:48] <negit> erk
[08:48] <kingspwned> IamEthos, i believe there is some sort of program to let you run im's in textmode
[08:48] <woland_> kingspawn, i rarley have need for wm besides web browsing
[08:48] <IamEthos> really?
[08:48] <IamEthos> that'd be uncomfortable
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> kingspwned: there sure is, I've used it before on my server.
[08:48] <patrick522> when i try and ftp the place to get the w32codec it comes up with this   No such file `w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.ded'.
[08:48] <kingspwned> woland_, me neither. wish w3m was just a little bit better, and i'd be off
[08:49] <kingspwned> patrick522, try ending with .deb
[08:49] <Madpilot> patrick522, .deb, not .ded
[08:49] <intelikey> negit what are you doing seeing whos dog can bark the loudest ?
[08:49] <dj-fu> ==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb ... done.
[08:49] <patrick522> still no file with .deb at the end
[08:49] <dj-fu> yes, ti's there, I just tested it.
[08:49] <dj-fu> copy paste, don't be a tard
[08:50] <frank23> !tell patrick522 about w32codecs
[08:50] <dj-fu> already did frank23
[08:50] <dj-fu> he's pretty dense
[08:50] <dj-fu> time to go back to windaz imho
[08:50] <kingspwned> liberatingly free spirited mood here now
[08:50] <Madpilot> dj-fu, be polite, please...
[08:50] <dj-fu> Madpilot, That was polite.
[08:50] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:50] <intelikey> netman1 well yours may be faster than mine, but i bet mines slower than yours!   so there.
[08:51] <Madpilot> dj-fu, no, it was not.
[08:51] <dj-fu> right, afk
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> IamEthos: centericq is a cli-only multi-network chat program
[08:51] <Chanchao> Here you go, the next Ubuntu Slogan gets decided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SloganIdeas
[08:51] <patrick522> this is the right code yeh     wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:51] <patrick522>   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:51] <intelikey> well wrong nick.  sorry.
[08:51] <Chanchao> Down with "Linux for human beings".    Ubuntu is bigger than Linux, and not limited to human beings.
[08:52] <thoreauputic> Chanchao: "Linux for Gentoo Refugees" ? *grin*
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: type it one line at a time, not all at once.
[08:52] <Chanchao> LOL
[08:52] <patrick522> i did
[08:52] <mite> bigger than linux? how does that mak sense. its based on debian linux.
[08:52] <intelikey> Ubuntu is bigger ????     errr linux is bigger than ubuntu maybe.
[08:52] <mite> its like debian linux with a helpful app installer.
[08:52] <equador> hi, how i can install tcl with apt ?
[08:52] <kingspwned> mite, if sense is what you're looking for... ;)
[08:52] <frank23> Chanchao: Ubuntu bigger than linux? talk about offending every other linux user
[08:52] <patrick522> after this ==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb ...
[08:52] <Chanchao> Linux = kernel software.  Just a part really.
[08:53] <intelikey> equador sudo apt-get install tcl
[08:53] <kingspwned> patrick522, then you do the line that starts with "sudo..."
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> equador: ubuntu comes with tcl 8.4
[08:53] <patrick522> this comes after the line i just wrote     No such file `w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.ded'.
[08:54] <intelikey> yeah tcl8.4  or some version
[08:54] <frank23> Chanchao: most people use linux for GNU/Linux yeah...
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> its .deb damn it! .deb!!!
[08:54] <equador> requires Tcl to compile. Me write this error when i try compile
[08:54] <kingspwned> patrick522, for the last time, .deb, not .ded
[08:54] <Hobbsee> LOL @ fyrestrtr
[08:54] <equador> when i write sudo apt-get install tcl, i get error
[08:54] <Hobbsee> you're creating a new packaging system?
[08:54] <patrick522> it changes when i paste it
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> equador: you probably need to install the development libraries try sudo apt-get install tcl8.4-dev
[08:54] <intelikey> equador did you install b-e ?
[08:54] <Mikch> Mikch
[08:54] <Chanchao> Give it a year or two and Linux and Ubuntu will be synonymous.
[08:55] <kingspwned> haha
[08:55] <equador> what is mean b-e
[08:55] <equador> ?
[08:55] <Chanchao> But Ubuntu is a cooler word.
[08:55] <intelikey> !b-e
[08:55] <ubotu> b-e is, like, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:55] <kingspwned> i am going to create a new packaging system - .dud
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: the Zombie packaging system - hence the .ded suffix ;)
[08:55] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[08:55] <frank23> Chanchao: I agree that Ubuntu has amazing potential. Gentoo won't die off though ;)
[08:55] <Chanchao> .rpg packaging.
[08:55] <equador> intelikey, i dont install b-e
[08:55] <equador> :/
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> who started comparing ubuntu with gentoo?
[08:55] <chris__> I have a python file that is opening up as a text file. what is the command to make this executable instead?
[08:55] <patrick522> after this ==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb ... then this comes just after
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> chris__: chmod +x file.py
[08:55] <patrick522> this comes after the line i just wrote     No such file `w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:56] <intelikey> jou got too
[08:56] <chris__> thanks!
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> chris__: or, just type python file.py
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> patrick522: what line you just wrote?
[08:56] <IzeyJr> patrick522: did you unpack it or DL it?
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> chris__: does it open up when you double click it?
[08:56] <dj-fu> patrick522, just type this copy and paste this exactly "wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb"
[08:56] <dj-fu> it'll download, it's about 15mB
[08:56] <thoreauputic> patrick522: looks like it isn't on the server you tried to d/l from
[08:57] <dj-fu> It's there, I just tested.
[08:57] <IzeyJr> yeah it is I just got it
[08:57] <kingspwned> dj-fu; you're not a quitter, heh ;)
[08:57] <thoreauputic> OK
[08:57] <hayden> is there an easy way of setting permissions for a public_html folder so i dont have to change them each time a add a new file?
[08:57] <dj-fu> kingspawn, I'm trying. To change the world, we have to change individual users. This is a place for that to happen
[08:57] <patrick522> i cant paste in a terminal
[08:57] <intelikey> i'm a quitter
[08:57] <dj-fu> the nicer we are, the sooner we are to world domination.
[08:57] <IzeyJr> I unpacked it the first time becuz I'm a newb
[08:57] <thoreauputic> patrick522: sure you can'
[08:57] <kingspwned> dj-fu, aiming high, i see :)
[08:57] <dj-fu> patrick522, rightclick > paste
[08:57] <intelikey> patrick522 why not ?
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> hayden: change the group to the apache group, that should fix the problems.
[08:57] <Frogzoo> patrick522: middle button
[08:57] <dj-fu> kingspawn, this is the future of linux we're talking about, remember.
[08:58] <patrick522> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb this worked
[08:58] <hayden> fyrestrtr, ahh tahnks
[08:58] <kingspwned> hehe
[08:58] <intelikey> or shift both buttons.
[08:58] <dj-fu> patrick522, Tell me when it's downloaded.
[08:58] <patrick522> ok
[08:58] <chris__> fyrestrtr - it opens up as a text file in gedit
[08:58] <Frogzoo> dj-fu: the future of linux is x-box 3 beowulf clusters :)
[08:58] <dj-fu> yawn @ xbox
[08:58] <equador> ERROR: Unable to find Tcl on this system
[08:58] <equador> , what i must do
[08:58] <equador> :/
[08:58] <intelikey> i copy and paste in console.
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> chris__: that's because python programs are plain text files.
[08:59] <hayden> fyrestrtr, there is not apache group :S
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> chris__: just type python file.py to run the program (type it in a console)
[08:59] <IzeyJr> oh noes it just failed when I tried to just DL it
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> hayden: or httpd or whatever its called.
[08:59] <patrick522> dj-fu: downloaded and save
[08:59] <dj-fu> patrick522, right, type this "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb"
[08:59] <equador> how set environment variables TCLLIB
[08:59] <equador> and TCLINC ?
[08:59] <Fracture> what IDE if any do ubuntu people use for python/gtk dev ?
[08:59] <hayden> fyrestrtr, or httpd
[08:59] <dj-fu> gEdit, for python
[08:59] <dj-fu> :P
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> hayden: www-data maybe
[09:00] <patrick522> then wat
[09:00] <hayden> fyrestrtr, nope
[09:00] <dj-fu> patrick522, that's it, restart your player (mplayer or xine) and then open your wmv file
[09:00] <kingspwned> equador, export VARIABLE=VALUE
[09:00] <dj-fu> it *should* play :P
[09:00] <venky> all here r ubuntu fans?
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Fracture: Komodo (if you don't mind paying). Free stuff includes Eclipse with proper plugins, or cream if you are vi fan like me :D
[09:00] <Fracture> yes
[09:00] <equador> kingspawn, but how ?
[09:00] <venky> cool
[09:00] <dj-fu> yeah - Eclipse is very nice
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> hayden: do you even *have* apache installed?
[09:00] <venky> iam new to it
[09:00] <patrick522> wow it worked cheers for all you help i will now go document it for later
[09:00] <Frogzoo> venky: we're actually all closet Redmon zealots
[09:01] <intelikey> equador install tcllib
[09:01] <dj-fu> patrick522, Not a problem, have fun.
[09:01] <Fracture> fyrestrtr: what are the propper plugins for eclipse ?  I use eclipse daily for java dev (day job)
[09:01] <Chanchao> venky: It is the ubuntu forum... presumably most people here like it. :)
[09:01] <intelikey> equador sudo apt-get install tcllib
[09:01] <dj-fu> Fracture, eclipse-cdt (C dev tools)
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> Fracture: there is a great python plugin for it.
[09:01] <Chanchao> I do anyway.
[09:01] <venky> i just installed uuntu on my external usb hard drive
[09:01] <dj-fu> apt-cache search eclipse-*
[09:01] <chris__> fyrestrtr - hmm chmod +x bittorrent.py didnt help and running bittorrent.py says not known command
[09:01] <kingspwned> equador, trying to compile eggdrop?
[09:01] <Fracture> dj-fu: sorry, i'm talking about python-gtk dev
[09:01] <equador> kingspawn, yes
[09:01] <equador> ;)
[09:01] <Chanchao> Venky: ah.  And does it boot? :)
[09:01] <kingspwned> chris__, ./bittorrent.py
[09:01] <venky> yup
[09:02] <venky> iam using that currently
[09:02] <Chanchao> Venky: Excellent!!   I find that a lot of different comptuters boot USB drives differently, if at all. It doesn't always work.
[09:02] <venky> used automatix to download lots of application
[09:02] <equador> why i get this error ERROR: Unable to find Tcl on this system
[09:02] <hayden> fyrestrtr, actually scratch that, i was looking in accounts + users under the admin menu, there is a www-data user but it doesnt show up there
[09:02] <venky> i think its all set
[09:02] <venky> but i dont know jack abt linux
[09:02] <equador> i try apt-get install tcl, and tcl libs and much more
[09:02] <equador> :/
[09:02] <chris__> kingspwned - thanks that works
[09:03] <venky> well i have a dell 600m and an 8600
[09:03] <Chanchao> Venky: That's good too...  A lot of the essential stuff needed to play mp3 and mpeg video and all those is not installed by default... legal issues...
[09:03] <venky> it boots on both
[09:03] <kingspwned> equador, do you have synaptic? or try apt-cache search tcl
[09:03] <venky> but 700m laptop doesnt
[09:03] <Chanchao> Yeah, worked on Dell computers for me too.
[09:03] <intelikey> why does python and perl have to be installed.   it says it will remove everything to remove either of them.
[09:03] <intelikey> ?
[09:04] <patrick522> im just having probs playin with .wma files now
[09:04] <Kovecses> what ubuntu user doesnt have synaptic?
[09:04] <frank23> intelikey: some essential programs depend on them
[09:04] <kingspwned> intelikey, they dont _have_ to be installed, no, but i guess its recommended
[09:04] <equador> kingspawn, i have synaptic, no i dont triyng search tcl
[09:04] <kingspwned> Kovecses, the ones doing a server install
[09:04] <venky> but i am not ablr to install gaim 2 beta
[09:04] <Kovecses> kingspwned: well then they should def know about apt-get
[09:04] <venky> i mean i dont know how to install stuff here
[09:04] <Chanchao> Patrick552: CHeck the 'Restricted FOrmats' with info on how to download codecs for that.
[09:05] <equador> when i search, i get a big list of libs..
[09:05] <Chanchao> (Google 'ubuntu restricted formats')
[09:05] <Dr|J> !*! How do I set a static IP ? !*!
[09:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr|J
[09:05] <equador> how i can know, what i must install
[09:05] <intelikey> kingspwned don't have to be ?  as in you can remove the kernel and bash and all other linux stuff and it will be ok     hehhe
[09:05] <kingspwned> equador: try the one looking the most like "tcllib"
[09:05] <Kovecses> im now in love with IceWM
[09:05] <Frogzoo> venky: if you can't get a beta to install - I doubt you should be playing with betas - my 2c
[09:05] <kingspwned> intelikey, of course you can!
[09:05] <Chanchao> DrJ : System->Administration->Networking. THen change from DHCP to static.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Dr|J: System -> Administration -> Networking
[09:05] <venky> well its all for fun
[09:05] <Dr|J> thanx
[09:05] <venky> so i dont care if it all crashes
[09:06] <intelikey> you very funny man kingspwned
[09:06] <venky> i dont know how it automatically detected my wireless
[09:06] <venky> so i am already amazed
[09:06] <Chanchao> Drj: On the Dapper live CD preview it's a bit weird though.   Just do it slow, and give it time before hitting 'Ok'
[09:06] <Frogzoo> venky: betas can mess up your system, even if you know what your'e doing
[09:06] <frank23> venky: some cards are detected just like that. not all, so were lucky ;)
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> equador: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev
[09:06] <equador> fyrestrtr, ok thx
[09:06] <Kovecses> pokerroom.com everyone
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> venky: magic :)
[09:06] <Dr|J> ok Chanchao
[09:07] <venky> well guys u shud tell me how to install it
[09:07] <Kovecses> venky: install what
[09:07] <equador> mhm, i have this libs.
[09:07] <equador> tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev i have
[09:07] <venky> gaim 2 beta
[09:07] <intelikey> fyrestrtr it was asking for tcllibs  which i already told equador how to install.
[09:07] <Chanchao> BTW, does anyone know how to recieve a file using Bluetooth?  I can see 'ubuntu'
[09:08] <Chanchao> [on Bluetooth]  but cannot connect to send a filel
[09:08] <Kovecses> venky: why isnt it installing?
[09:08] <venky> well coz i dont know how to install from a tar.gz
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> My Trash applet in Gnome is confused, and thinks it has something in it when it's been emptied.
[09:09] <Kovecses> venky: oh.... well that means you need to compile from source
[09:09] <venky> ya
[09:09] <Frogzoo> firefox (1.5) has started being a pain - takes about a minute for the window to appear after launched, what gives?
[09:09] <frank23> !tell venky about compile
[09:09] <venky> but i have no idea..i extracted it to my desktop
[09:09] <intelikey> cool tonyyarusso :)  another bug in gnome "the perfect desktop"  lol
[09:09] <Kovecses> venky: sudo apt-get install build essential
[09:09] <chici> haiii
[09:09] <frank23> venky: yeah if you want newer program versions than what is in ubuntu, you often have to compile
[09:10] <altos> hi all
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: I guess.  I still like it though.
[09:10] <Frogzoo> frank23: or just wait for dapper...
[09:10] <_Rappy_> Morning all! I'm trying to play this video http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=9357&type=mov (Huxley, new 360 game) but all I can get is that Totem could not play due to missing plugins. Can anyone tell me which plugis to get?
[09:10] <Kovecses> _Rappy_: w32codecs
[09:11] <Kovecses> venky: then untar the gaim file
[09:11] <altos> i've got a question on installing ubuntu on my vaio. After copying packages to disk, rebooting and starting to install them it hangs
[09:11] <venky> ok then can u tell me stepwise what to do
[09:11] <intelikey> k sorry i had to laugh at that.   it's just how gnome zelous people in here can be sometimes.    did you  ls -A  the trash to make sure there wasnt a hiden file in it ?
[09:11] <intelikey> @ tonyyarusso
[09:11] <Kovecses> venky: i am
[09:11] <frank23> venky: did you see the link sent by ubotu?
[09:12] <Kovecses> venky: i would just use gaim that comes with ubuntu imho
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Yeah, nothing.
[09:12] <venky> well i did
[09:12] <venky> but i see some errors
[09:13] <intelikey> well you can prolly fix it by cycling the gui tonyyarusso
[09:13] <venky> lol but man i just want to use the beta its better...
[09:13] <venky> why dont u guys just let me screw with it..;)
[09:13] <altos> could someone help me with installing ubuntu on vaio, please?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Removed from panel and re-added, now it's fine.
[09:13] <Frogzoo> venky: because once you bust it, we rightly suspect you'll be back here asking how to fix it
[09:13] <equador> downloading all tcl libs and tols... if after dont works
[09:14] <Kovecses> venky: what is the error
[09:14] <equador> when what i should do
[09:14] <equador> ?
[09:14] <intelikey> wenky use it.   i won't bother me.
[09:14] <fiendskull9> yo
[09:14] <fiendskull9> !multiverse
[09:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:14] <venky> well what to do first after i have extracted it to desktop
[09:15] <intelikey> wenky use it.   i won't bother me.  :)
[09:15] <intelikey> i'm not stopping you.
[09:15] <Chanchao> Altos: Should be no different from any other install... Have you tried it?
[09:15] <Kovecses> venky: cd to that directory
[09:15] <zF> Does the Pentium M support the i686 linux-image?
[09:15] <venky> no but i need help
[09:15] <venky> ok wait
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> zF: yes
[09:15] <hayden> fyrestrtr, i made www-data the owner of public_html, but now i can't save files there unless im root?
[09:15] <Frogzoo> zF: if it doesn't, I'm in trouble ;)
[09:15] <altos> chanchao: i've been trying to install it for 2 days...
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> hayden: add yourself to the www-data group
[09:16] <zF> Why is my system by defualt using the i386 linux-image?
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> zF: Sure looks like it, or I'm going to have some serious issu-ohp...aack!  j/k
[09:16] <Matthewv> hayden, change the permissions of public_html
[09:16] <altos> chanchao: after coping packages on disk and rebooting it starts to finish installing packages
[09:16] <frank23> zF: that's what ubuntu installs for everyone
[09:16] <Frogzoo> zF: that's the base install
[09:16] <venky> ok iam now in the directory
[09:16] <Frogzoo> zF: but definately upgrade to 686 - well worth the performance gains
[09:16] <frank23> venky: install build-essential if you didn't already
[09:17] <intelikey> oh  you mean you want us to hold your hand while you try to do something that we know you don't know how to do and it probably wont work after we spend 9 hours of helping you wenky       count me out.  but use it all you like we don't care one bit.
[09:17] <altos> chanchao: and then it fishishes with some dump... or hangs up somewhere on 72%
[09:17] <venky> no i didnt but whats the command to run
[09:17] <zF> Frogzoo, if I just install the i686 image and the 2.6.15-19-686, will Ubuntu automatically know to use that?
[09:17] <venky> can u put it in quotes
[09:17] <Kovecses> zF: all ubuntu users start with i386
[09:17] <Kovecses> zF: except amd64 and such
[09:18] <zF> Frogzoo, how much of a gain is there for using an optimized kernel for your cpu architecture?
[09:18] <frank23> venky: you should read a bunch of stuff in the wiki to learn all of this.
[09:18] <zF> Kovecses, I see.
[09:18] <venky> hmm
[09:18] <intelikey> zf  not much really.
[09:18] <venky> but cant u tell me here
[09:18] <Chanchao> Altos: Ouch...
[09:18] <venky> i mean its a little long process i will get to it sometime
[09:18] <Kovecses> zF: as far a performance goes... the only reason i see to use an i686 kernel is for if you have over a gig of ram...
[09:19] <Kovecses> venky: its not long at all
[09:19] <zF> Frogzoo, if I just install the i686 image and the 2.6.15-19-686, will Ubuntu automatically know to use that?
[09:19] <venky> well it saus too few arguments
[09:19] <altos> Chanchao: and after rebooting i a message that some of the packages failed to install due to unknown problem (i don't run out of disk space)... and i get just a console
[09:19] <Chanchao> Altos: Perhaps try the Live CD preview first.   The upcoming release (preview available) will install to disk straight from the live CD>
[09:19] <Kovecses> zF: it should
[09:19] <zF> Kovecses, thanks.
[09:19] <zF> Kovecses, I have a question - kind of a weird one.
[09:19] <Kovecses> venky: what does?
[09:19] <Kovecses> zF: ok
[09:20] <zF> Kovecses, why do "advanced" gun/linux users use Ubuntu?
[09:20] <Chanchao> ALtos: Google for "Ubuntu dapper live CD flight 5"
[09:20] <zF> gnu*
[09:20] <fiendskull9> !java
[09:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:20] <Chanchao> If it boots up and runs then it really should also install to your drive properly.
[09:20] <Kovecses> zF: no idea.... i use gentoo myself but help out around here when i can
[09:20] <kingspwned> zF, even advanced users have desktop machines, and ubuntu makes a nice one
[09:20] <Chanchao> There's an icon on the desktop to install
[09:20] <altos> Chanchao: i'll try right now... thanks
[09:20] <venky> "install build-essential"
[09:21] <Chanchao> And on boot it has an option to check the CD for errors.
[09:21] <_Rappy_> Kovecses : I got all possible repositories added, do I ahve to look somewhere else for the w32 codecs?
[09:21] <intelikey> Chanchao boot's run's and finds the hdd ok....
[09:21] <Chanchao> It's much nicer overall too.
[09:21] <Kovecses> _Rappy_: yeah seveas's repos
[09:21] <frank23> venky: sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall      sudo apt-get build-dep gaim      ./configure     make      sudo checkinstall         should basicaly do it.
[09:21] <Frogzoo> !tell raphael about w32
[09:21] <kingspwned> venky; with ; as separators! - or rather &&
[09:21] <frank23> venky: don't blame me if something goes wrong though
[09:22] <zF> Kovecses, that's pretty cool of you.
[09:22] <Frogzoo> !tell _Rappy_ about w32codec
[09:22] <Kovecses> zF: thank you
[09:22] <_Rappy_> tnx guys
[09:22] <venky> ya well i dont understand well later guys
[09:22] <zF> Kovecses, but it's very humorous to me that I asked that, and you use gentoo :x
[09:22] <zF> Kovecses, I tried installing gentoo after using Ubuntu for 5 or so months, but I got my ass kicked. :(
[09:23] <intelikey> frank23 if rather than      space you would have used && it would have been copy and paste this command......
[09:23] <Kovecses> zF: but i think Ubuntu is a great OS
[09:23] <frank23> intelikey: yeah but what if something goes wrong?
[09:23] <altos> Chanchao: so i can download live cd and install from it, right?
[09:23] <zF> Started with the minimal install, then tried the Stage with the emerege snapshot. Once I spent an hour selecting all the programs and configuring the rest of the make install, I clicked "install" to finalize everything
[09:23] <intelikey> && will only do the next if the former exits 0
[09:24] <zF> and it spat out "Set root password" then sat for 30 minutes doing nothing. :(
[09:24] <VeldorzVizzerd> hey, I am new to ubuntu and have just installed it, I can't access the root account, can anyone here help me out?
[09:24] <kingspwned> intelikey, exactly
[09:24] <Kovecses> zF: the gui install sucks ...... it isnt meant for first time users
[09:24] <frank23> did I scare him?
[09:24] <phrizer> VeldorzVizzerd, use sudo.
[09:24] <VeldorzVizzerd> sudo?
[09:24] <Gareth> VeldorzVizzerd: root isn't enabled by default, use sudo instead of su
[09:24] <intelikey> !root
[09:24] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:24] <Chanchao> Altos: Yes.  Can install from live CD.  I haven't tried it yet though. :)
[09:24] <Gareth> or if you really want root, use sudo passwd and set the root pass
[09:25] <frank23> Kovecses: yeah I know...  the gui basically assumes you know how to install gentoo without it
[09:25] <phrizer> VeldorzVizzerd, using root can be dangerous, if you just want to execute a few commands as root, use sudo
[09:25] <VeldorzVizzerd> okay, will check it out, thanks gareth
[09:25] <Gareth> yeah, take note of what phrizer said
[09:25] <Dr|J> i setup samba and added a shared folder, but i can't get to it via windoz, it asks for password but can't get in :(
[09:25] <altos> Chanchao: is there a torrent link to it? i've got 404 - page not found
[09:25] <intelikey> read all about it at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:25] <Gareth> and that too ^
[09:25] <Kovecses> zF: if you follow the gentoo handbook it is fairly easy
[09:25] <altos> Chanchao: exuse me.. i found
[09:26] <Chanchao> Hold on, will find the link
[09:26] <VeldorzVizzerd> okay, the wiki was helpful, thanks y'all
[09:26] <intelikey> then set your root password like you want and be done with it.... :)
[09:26] <frank23> intelikey: oh I didn't know that about  &&.  what does  command1; command2 do? go on even if there is a problem?
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> frank23: yes
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Dr|J: enable guest browsing in Samba
[09:27] <altos> Chanchao: and how can i check cd for errors?
[09:27] <Dr|J> ok let me look fyrestrtr
[09:27] <Chanchao> Found it: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/
[09:27] <Dr|J> fyrestrtr "Allow browsing folder" is checked
[09:28] <Chanchao> On boot it has the option to check the CD for errors.
[09:28] <intelikey> frank23 c1;c2  will run c2 when c1 exits   c1&c2 will ron both at one time c1 in bg   and c1&&c2 will run c3 if c1 exits 0   c1||c2 will run c2 if c1 exits > 0  i.e. fails.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> intelikey: s/c3/c2
[09:28] <intelikey> oops s/c3/c2/ ^
[09:28] <intelikey> yeah that.
[09:29] <ach_no> hello, someone familiar with ati propriatery divers install??
[09:29] <frank23> intelikey: I see. thanks
[09:29] <intelikey> if you poke too much smot you will piss smell your words.....
[09:29] <Gareth> er, what?
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Dr|J: I have no idea what you are looking at, I've only configured samba using the terminal, not some gui applet.
[09:30] <Dr|J> fyrestrtr do you have a link so i can figure out samba in terminal?
[09:30] <frank23> intelikey: heh
[09:30] <intelikey> frank23 man bash   is a must for the cli user.
[09:30] <kingspwned> almost like c syntax (cept the bit operators)
[09:30] <fiendskull9> !easyubuntu
[09:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[09:32] <Kovecses> easyubuntu! that sounds like a great app
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> ach_no: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <intelikey> i think maybe i took too much ant-acid back in the 60's ......
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Dr|J: the gentoo-wiki has a great writeup on that.
[09:32] <Gareth> heh does ubotu just say that from time to time?
[09:32] <Dr|J> k
[09:32] <kingspwned> intelikey, i was expecting that you took too much acid.. ;)
[09:32] <frank23> Gareth: say what?
[09:33] <intelikey> Gareth ! is a bot call char.
[09:33] <n00b> hey guys i need help setting up my epson printer through a router... so that it would work off of a network
[09:33] <intelikey> !root
[09:33] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:33] <n00b> canh anyone help me with this
[09:33] <Gareth> that speel about easyubuntu
[09:33] <frank23> Gareth: ubotu is a bot
[09:33] <Gareth> ah durz, hadn't seen someone say !easyubuntu
[09:33] <Gareth> I know he's a bot, yeah
[09:33] <zF> What is the general gnu command to add a user?
[09:33] <Gareth> I think the ubottu gave it away :P
[09:33] <Gareth> er, -t
[09:33] <intelikey> kingspwned see you must not be from my generation.... you would have got that.
[09:34] <zF> Or is adduser generally used on all Linux/BSD installs?
[09:34] <Frogzoo> zF: adduser would you believe?
[09:34] <kingspwned> intelikey, i am not at all :)
[09:34] <Kovecses> icewm
[09:34] <ach_no> fyrestrtr : thanks i'll try!
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> zF: useradd username -m -G users,audio,games,wheel -s /bin/bash <-- this is what I use.
[09:35] <intelikey> it's like wow man,  i think i did to much ant-acid or something,  these mushrooms don't taste right any more and i can like see heave or something,    ya know man ?      </hippy>
[09:35] <Kovecses> gentoo users?
[09:35] <Frogzoo> zF: this is confusing - there's a 'useradd' and an 'adduser' - both seem to do the same thing
[09:36] <intelikey> Frogzoo yep same thing.
[09:36] <Kovecses> i use useradd
[09:36] <kingspwned> intelikey, hahah :)
[09:36] <kingspwned> i see
[09:37] <Kovecses> linux!
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> intelikey: I thought you were talking about the antacid medicine :P
[09:37] <Kovecses> !linux
[09:37] <ubotu> somebody said linux was the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:37] <intelikey> yes fyrestrtr
[09:37] <Frogzoo> intelikey: check man page - adduser > useradd
[09:38] <fiendskull9> is there any possibility the XGL can work on breezy?
[09:38] <fiendskull9> or is it only working on dapper as of now
[09:38] <Frogzoo> fiendskull9: no hope, none at all
[09:38] <Kovecses> fiendskull9: xgl can work on breezy
[09:38] <Frogzoo> Kovecses: true???
[09:39] <fiendskull9> xgl is the 3d window changer right?
[09:39] <Kovecses> Frogzoo: with a lot of tweeking
[09:39] <Frogzoo> o_O
[09:39] <Frogzoo> amazing
[09:40] <PokerFacePenguin> anybody met with success installing vmware tools on breezy?
[09:40] <Gareth> funny you mention it, good thread on the forums about it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772&highlight=intel+XGL
[09:40] <fiendskull9> i love easyubuntu
[09:40] <fiendskull9> it makes a fresh install so much easier
[09:40] <equador> finnaly when i compile eggdrop, system find tcl
[09:40] <equador> ;)
[09:40] <intelikey> Frogzoo yes.  man pages are different cause it forked and now there are two commands adduser and useradd  but on older systems i remember a symlink between them.
[09:40] <kingspwned> equador, congratulations
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> equador: you know, you could have just done sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[09:41] <fiendskull9> lmao
[09:41] <equador> i know, but i try install other bot
[09:41] <equador> racbot
[09:41] <fiendskull9> what is eggdrop?
[09:41] <equador> ;)
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> irc bot
[09:41] <intelikey> fiendskull9 irc bot
[09:42] <intelikey> fyrestrtr you wouldn't have beet me if you had typed his nix out.
[09:42] <intelikey> ;p
[09:42] <fiendskull9> hey fie <tab>
[09:42] <fiendskull9> lol
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> finally found my media player! Bashee!
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> does media management + tag editing + album art display :)
[09:43] <fiendskull9> lol
[09:43] <fiendskull9> Bashee is the name?
[09:43] <Gareth> oh really? I think I might give that a go
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> Banshee
[09:44] <fiendskull9> is it in of the repos?
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> yeah
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> http://banshee-project.org/Image:Screenshot-AlbumPic.png :)
[09:44] <Gareth> wow that's perfect
[09:45] <Gareth> I have to admit, I was attached to itunes on win32
[09:45] <fiendskull9> i wonder how much ram it uses
[09:45] <Gareth> it definitely seems to have mirrored it, in GUI anyways
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> yeah down to the shortcuts
[09:45] <kingspwned> i started itunes once
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> ctrl+, for prefs
[09:45] <Dr|J> ok i just vi to create a file, how the hell do i save? lol
[09:45] <n00b> how do i setup my printer so that it will print from any machine connected to the router?
[09:46] <kingspwned> dj|j: :w
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Dr|J: escape the :w to save
[09:46] <Dr|J> thx
[09:46] <Kovecses> n00b: samba
[09:46] <fiendskull9> anyone have skype?
[09:46] <n00b> Kovecses, can you tell me more please?
[09:46] <intelikey> :wq
[09:46] <intelikey> :!q
[09:46] <kingspwned> !samba
[09:46] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:46] <intelikey> :?
[09:46] <kingspwned> look at that n00b
[09:46] <Kovecses> n00b: are you using default ubuntu with gnome?
[09:46] <n00b> kingspwned, ok thx
[09:47] <n00b> Kovecses, yes
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Dr|J: if you like vi, then try cream
[09:47] <Kovecses> n00b: install samba
[09:47] <n00b> Kovecses, i'm pretty sure i have samba on
[09:47] <intelikey> vim-improved
[09:47] <Kovecses> n00b: then use the printer setup ... choose network printer
[09:47] <n00b> Kovecses, i did that
[09:48] <n00b> Kovecses, but when i try to send a test page to print, it doesnt work
[09:48] <Kovecses> n00b: make sure the printer is shared on the other end.. make sure ip addresses are correct
[09:48] <n00b> Kovecses, it is connected to a router, the IP is correct
[09:49] <intelikey> make suer the printer isn't paused on the ubuntu end.  it wont send in that state.
[09:49] <vapor> can any one please tell me the command line to get an ip forwarding working from eth0 connected to the internet to eth1 to the local network
[09:49] <Kovecses> n00b: you need to input the comps ip not the router
[09:49] <n00b> Kovecses, ok one sec then, lemme try that
[09:49] <Frogzoo> vapor: just bridge
[09:50] <Kovecses> n00b: the comp with the printer!!!!!!!
[09:50] <Gareth> heh
[09:50] <n00b> Kovecses, but the printer is connect to the router not a computer...
[09:50] <n00b> Kovecses, thats why i put in the router IP
[09:51] <vapor> Frogzoo ?
[09:51] <Kovecses> n00b: the router?? so where are the printer drivers?
[09:51] <equador> ubuntu find my printer hp 3820, but dont printing PRINTTER, but in ubuntu write printing page...
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[09:51] <n00b> Kovecses, i didnt install any drivers... i just used the default ones from ubuntu
[09:51] <Frogzoo> vapor: no, I've reconsidered - iptables probably is best
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows how to change ONLY the tooltip's text colour in GTK2 apps?
[09:51] <vapor> i know
[09:51] <Kovecses> n00b: how is it hooked to a router?
[09:52] <n00b> Kovecses, through a USB cable, to a port at the back of the router
[09:52] <Frogzoo> vapor: plenty of examples of iptables forwarding on google...
[09:52] <Kovecses> n00b: access the router and set the printer up man
[09:53] <Kovecses> n00b: having a printer on a router seems stupid to me
[09:53] <equador> .
[09:53] <n00b> Kovecses, do you mean like configure the router? coz i can't configure it for the printer. you just plug in the printer to the back of the router and its ment to work
[09:54] <ompaul> Kovecses, it is actually the way of commerical printers to want to be on the lan themselves
[09:54] <UH^MERLIN> hey guys
[09:54] <UH^MERLIN> just want to say
[09:54] <Kovecses> ompaul: with no print server?
[09:54] <UH^MERLIN> this is my first time ever using Linux
[09:54] <n00b> Kovecses, the router has an inbuilt print server
[09:54] <UH^MERLIN> and i just installed Ubuntu with no problems
[09:54] <ompaul> Kovecses, they can act as their own
[09:55] <ompaul> Kovecses, depends on what you pay for
[09:55] <UH^MERLIN> a very good OS
[09:55] <Kovecses> ompaul: what about the printer drivers?
[09:55] <ompaul> Kovecses, pcl pdf
[09:55] <kingspwned> UH^MERLIN, great :)
[09:55] <mrfurious> me too uhrmerlin
[09:55] <UH^MERLIN> thx king :)
[09:55] <kingspwned> UH^MERLIN, keep at it, it only gets better :)
[09:56] <UH^MERLIN> i hope so
[09:56] <ompaul> Kovecses, makes for a very flexable network
[09:56] <Kovecses> ompaul: well thats cool...maybe you could help n00b?
[09:56] <UH^MERLIN> im a systems admin and got almost all M$ cert's but believe or not never fooled around with any *NIX enviroments
[09:57] <Kovecses> ompaul: guess i havent looked at routers in a while
[09:57] <Ox41464b> LAN (got 10pc), i want to listen UDP packet at spesific port (to whole LAN PC), is that possible ?
[09:57] <Kovecses> im a linux admin
[09:57] <Kovecses> cool job
[09:57] <UH^MERLIN> I ALMOST WENT WITH THE DISTRO Debian
[09:57] <Kovecses> debian is awesome
[09:58] <UH^MERLIN> but the more i read about it, Ubuntu seemed to be intuitive
[09:59] <Frogzoo> Ox41464b: this is amazingly possible - with either ethereal, or if you're feeling a bit brave, snort
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> n went as far as deleting all Win partitions and breaking Wiin CD's so i never go back to the Win enviroment
[10:00] <gnu_style> is the live cd installable?
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> no gnu
[10:00] <Frogzoo> gnu_style: not with a great deal of work
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> it doesnt touch your HDD
[10:00] <Ox41464b> Frogzoo, speak in english please, possible or not ?
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> possible
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> but nt for a n00b
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> not*
[10:00] <gnu_style> if I download the live cd can i install it as well?
[10:00] <Matthewv> gnu_style, the next release of ubuntu will feature an installable live cd
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> just download the .iso
[10:00] <UH^MERLIN> if you want to install to Hdd
[10:01] <Ox41464b> UH^MERLIN, thats mean not for me ?
[10:01] <Frogzoo> UH^MERLIN: +1
[10:01] <UH^MERLIN> i dont know you 0x
[10:01] <UH^MERLIN> i dont know what your skillz are ;)
 possible => <UH^MERLIN> but nt for a n00b
[10:01] <Ox41464b> UH^MERLIN, what its this all about ?
[10:01] <Frogzoo> Ox41464b: if that's not english to you, you'll find this heavy going
[10:01] <Ox41464b> skillz ?
[10:02] <UH^MERLIN> yes skills also known as skill or micro\
[10:02] <UH^MERLIN> rofl @ you 0x
[10:02] <UH^MERLIN> 0x i have over 1k systems in my botnet
[10:02] <UH^MERLIN> want to use them?
[10:02] <Ox41464b> Ubuntu is OS for DDoS'er ?
[10:02] <Ox41464b> is that correct ?
[10:02] <Overand> ugh.
[10:02] <Ox41464b> UH^MERLIN, do i asking for that ?
[10:03] <UH^MERLIN> it's possible, but without signing SSH accounts your control of sys's will be very weak
[10:03] <Ox41464b> i only asking how to make that possible on my LAN
[10:03] <PokerFacePenguin> Has anyone got vmware tools to install on vmware server (linux host, kubuntu breezy) (linux guest, dsl)
[10:03] <PokerFacePenguin> ?
[10:03] <fek_> moin
[10:03] <Ox41464b> and why should you guys make it complicated ?
[10:03] <Ox41464b> geez...
[10:03] <UH^MERLIN> to us, this isnt complicated ;)
[10:03] <Overand> What the heck is going on in here tonight.
[10:03] <Ox41464b> and Yes, its complicated for me, thats why I ask here
[10:03] <UH^MERLIN> whats up overland
[10:04] <UH^MERLIN> overand*
[10:04] <frank23> PokerFacePenguin: you need gcc-3.4 and kernel headers installed   and  export CC=gcc-3.4 before you run the configure script
[10:04] <Ox41464b> Overand: all is started from: LAN (got 10pc), i want to listen UDP packet at spesific port (to whole LAN PC), is that possible ?
[10:04] <Overand> UH^MERLIN: Trying to figure out who's trolling and who isn't.
[10:04] <UH^MERLIN> true that over
[10:04] <PokerFacePenguin> vmware is installed correctly, i just need the extra tools for performance
[10:05] <Ox41464b> Overand, do you think anything weird on that question ?
[10:05] <UH^MERLIN> im thinking of assigning on a new forum cat on my forums dedicated for Ubuntu
[10:05] <Overand> Ox41464b: you're not likely to get help when you're asking for assistence with a denial of service attack
[10:05] <frank23> PokerFacePenguin: I know. did you try to install them at all?
[10:05] <Ox41464b> Overand, ah same meaning again... do i talking about DoS thing here ?
[10:05] <UH^MERLIN> yes you do 0x
[10:05] <Overand> Ox41464b: your english is a little difficult for me to understand, Ox41464b
[10:05] <PokerFacePenguin> frank23: from the server menu....yes
[10:05] <Ox41464b> Okay, here is my case...
[10:05] <Overand> but you're not really asking an Ubuntu question
[10:06] <Overand> you're asking a *programming* question
[10:06] <UH^MERLIN> 03:02:33) Ox41464b: Ubuntu is OS for DDoS'er ?
[10:06] <UH^MERLIN> (03:02:41) Ox41464b: is that correct ?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> DOS related questions have nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:06] <Ox41464b> UH^MERLIN: scroll a little bit upper, before pasting that
[10:06] <Frogzoo> if it's a simple question of monitoring udp traffic on a particular port, snort with a custom rule will handle this nicely
[10:06] <Ox41464b> Frogzoo, thanks for the 'snort' keyword
[10:07] <Overand> First he was asking about listening, now he's asking about sending.
[10:07] <Overand> Ox41464b: what's your native language?
[10:07] <Ox41464b> i think ill consult Google
[10:07] <frank23> PokerFacePenguin: oh you mean install in guest? vmware can mount a cd with the tools in the guest OS. then you have to install them in the guest
[10:07] <Ox41464b> Overand, Indonesian
[10:07] <Frogzoo> Overand: yes, but for local traffic only - which rules out DoS
[10:07] <Ox41464b> Frogzoo, and again, thanks for the keyword
[10:07] <Ox41464b> i guess, im not welcome in here
[10:07] <Overand> Ox41464b: don'..
[10:07] <Frogzoo> Ox41464b: you're welcome & gl
[10:07] <UH^MERLIN> lol
[10:07] <Overand> hm.
[10:07] <UH^MERLIN> Ox just got pwn3d
[10:07] <UH^MERLIN> lol
[10:08] <Overand> No, he parted the channel.
[10:08] <UH^MERLIN> i meant in knowledge
[10:08] <UH^MERLIN> not physical
[10:08] <Overand> ...
[10:08] <rob> hmm..
[10:08] <UH^MERLIN> Over, do you attend any confrences?
[10:08] <Overand> UH^MERLIN: I haven't, but I'd like to at some point.  Why?
[10:09] <UH^MERLIN> like Defcon, or Hacker Quarterly?
[10:09] <UH^MERLIN> just converstaing
[10:09] <Overand> Well, I *have* attended some conferences, but not linux ones.  I've attanded some MS-developer conferences, not because I wanted to, but because I do audio work for a company that does MS-centric stuff.
[10:09] <gnomefreak> UH^MERLIN:  and Overand can you guy/girls please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <UH^MERLIN> cinversating*
[10:09] <equador> ./bot -m etc/<config-file>"
[10:09] <rob> UH^MERLIN, yes, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <equador> me write is a direcotyr
[10:10] <equador> how run this
[10:10] <equador> ?
[10:10] <PokerFacePenguin> frank23: ah, i guess i need to find the .iso, the gsm directions didnt exactly make it clear
[10:10] <Frogzoo> equador: you might have better luck in a native language channel...
[10:10] <Overand> equador: I don't understand your question.
[10:10] <Overand> Frogzoo: are there #ubunu-es channels ala #debian-de etc?
[10:10] <Frogzoo> !es
[10:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:11] <Overand> Good to know.
[10:11] <equador> i try tur on bot, and finnayly i must type this --> ./bot -m etc/<config-file> when y type this me write "is a directory"
[10:11] <equador> how run this file
[10:11] <equador> ?
[10:12] <Frogzoo> equador: what is you mother language ?
[10:12] <equador> lithuania
[10:12] <Overand> no automated translation sites from li-> es, as well.
[10:12] <Frogzoo> !lt
[10:12] <ubotu> Frogzoo: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:12] <Overand> equador: have you created a config file?
[10:13] <Overand> equador: when it says to do "./bot -m etc/<config-file>"
[10:13] <Overand> they do not mean literally
[10:13] <equador> Overand, i fixed this himself
[10:13] <Overand> they mean to point to an actual configuration.
[10:13] <Overand> (configuration file)
[10:13] <Overand> so, you shouldn't be typing "<config-file>" at all.
[10:15] <zuokanyunqi> pdflatex don't generate a .pdf file why
[10:15] <equador> how i can see me bacground processes ?
[10:15] <Overand> equador: ps -ef
[10:16] <Overand> or, for a 'graphical' one, 'top'
[10:16] <equador> thx
[10:16] <Agent_bob> xtop
[10:16] <Frogzoo> equador: jobs
[10:16] <Agent_bob> anyone know howto set a jpg wall paper in fluxbox ?
[10:16] <k31th> anyone got any ideals why i would be getting this error http://pastebin.com/617681
[10:17] <k31th> i cant seem to remove moodle
[10:17] <Gareth> Frogzoo, that doesn't give background info does it?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> is there a app like chemsite (windows) for ubuntu. 3d molicule building app?
[10:17] <Overand> yeah, what on earth is jobs?
[10:17] <Overand> it doesn't even have a manpage on my debian box
[10:17] <equador> and how kill process ?
[10:17] <Overand> equador: kill
[10:17] <Overand> equador: be careful =]
[10:18] <k31th> equador: kill appname
[10:18] <gnomefreak> kill (number of process)
[10:18] <k31th> or if theres loads
[10:18] <k31th> killall apname
[10:18] <k31th> or u can use pro number
[10:18] <Agent_bob> gnomefreak i think so.... search in synaptic   or aptitude i read about three or four apps along that line.
[10:18] <equador> ;)
[10:18] <Overand> k31th: that's a really terse error
[10:18] <k31th> and if it wont kill use 'kill -9' but be carefull with kill -9
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ty Agent_bob
[10:18] <Overand> check dpkg logs to see if you can find any more info
[10:18] <k31th> Overand: terse ?
[10:19] <k31th> i dotn understand wat terse means
[10:19] <Overand> k31th: terse... the opposite of verbose
[10:19] <Overand> short, doesn't say much.
[10:19] <Overand> "Brief and to the point; effectively concise: a terse one-word answer."
[10:19] <k31th> pos wont remove i know that much lol
[10:19] <k31th> Overand: why thank you
[10:20] <Overand> yeah, and it's not giving you any information, that's why i said it was 'terse'
[10:20] <k31th> ok.
[10:20] <Agent_bob> k31th it might work to fix broken and then remove it.... idk
[10:22] <PokerFacePenguin> lol..terse ...as in ATV0
[10:22] <fiendskull9> how do i change the splash screen
[10:22] <fiendskull9> i forgot
[10:22] <ompaul> which one?
[10:23] <fiendskull9> the one where its like loading nautilus
[10:23] <fiendskull9> etc.
[10:23] <fiendskull9> the gnome one, i think.
[10:23] <Fuzzy76> I barfed big time. I didn't have gcc installed, copied libstdc++.so, libstdc++.so.5 and libstdc++.so.5.0.3 directly to /lib to get a gameserver running (followed troubleshooting tip from the readme). Later on I needed gcc and installed it. Now it seems that the "old" libstdc++ files is conflicting with the new packages. Any tips on how to repair?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9: system>preff>splash screen (if its not there run) sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[10:24] <ompaul> Fuzzy76, start here sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:24] <zuokanyunqi> is there anyone use CJK
[10:25] <zuokanyunqi>
[10:25] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:25] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:25] <Frogzoo> Fuzzy76: if you didn't, run ldconfig against the lib directory you've installed to
[10:25] <Fuzzy76> ompaul, I shouldn't remove the libstdc++ files then?
[10:25] <zuokanyunqi> ompaul, can you help me
[10:25] <ompaul> well lets try
[10:26] <zuokanyunqi> ubotu, sorry
[10:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zuokanyunqi
[10:26] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, what is your exact question, I may not answer
[10:26] <zuokanyunqi> my kile does work correctly whith chinese
[10:27] <ompaul> Fuzzy76, go for it, if it fails your going to have to remove them the way you installed them
[10:27] <Fuzzy76> Frogzoo, "ldconfig: /lib/libstdc++.so.5 is not a symbolic link"
[10:27] <equador> how kill a process who work in bacground ?
[10:28] <Frogzoo> Fuzzy76: echo /lib > /etc/ld.so.conf ; ldconfig
[10:28] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, does work or does not work?
[10:28] <zuokanyunqi> work
[10:28] <equador> how kill a process who work in bacground ?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> equador: whats the name of it?
[10:28] <zuokanyunqi> but the output of chinese char was not right
[10:28] <ardchoille> Anyone know of a tutorial on how to build .deb packages?
[10:28] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, try to add this  kile-i18n
[10:29] <equador> i turn on bot, who have bad configuration..
[10:29] <equador> and i want turn off
[10:29] <equador> but bot is in bacground
[10:29] <equador> and i want kill him
[10:29] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, no promises but it looks like what might help
[10:29] <equador> but i dont now how do this
[10:29] <ompaul> !enter
[10:29] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> equador: what type of bot?? bloodbot/supybot? so on
[10:30] <equador> racbot ;/
[10:30] <Fuzzy76> equador, "ps -e | grep eggdrop", "kill -9 1234". Where 1234 is the process id returned by ps and eggdrop is the name of your bot executable
[10:30] <zuokanyunqi> ompaul, i have that installed
[10:30] <neo911> if i have created a tab in an open browser, is it  possible to make that tab "dock out" of that browser
[10:31] <neo911> and become a whole instance on its own? thx
[10:31] <Frogzoo> neo911: if you mean in firefox, no
[10:31] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, and it does not display the fonts correctly?
[10:31] <neo911> Frogzoo, yes firefox
[10:31] <Overand> neo911: probably not, best bet is to just copy the url, make a new browser window, and paste it
[10:31] <zuokanyunqi> ompaul, yes
[10:31] <Overand> neo911: there *may* be an extention to firefox to allow that
[10:31] <UH^MERLIN> theres a good article on www.undergroundhacks.com regarding something like that
[10:31] <neo911> Overand, yes but im lazy :-)
[10:32] <Overand> neo911: http://www.mozilla.com/extensions/
[10:32] <zuokanyunqi> ompaul, no
[10:32] <Overand> if you're lazy i strongly suggest you get "All-In-One Gestures"
[10:32] <ESPOiG> is there command i can type to see the partition table of all my hard-drives?
[10:32] <Overand> but that won't do what you need
[10:32] <equador> i dont mean how kill that process
[10:32] <Frogzoo> ESPOiG: sudo fdisk -l
[10:32] <equador> like kill ...
[10:32] <ESPOiG> thx
[10:32] <yeonhoo> hello
[10:32] <Overand> neo911: actually, all-in-one gestures may have an option to duplicate current tab in a new window, let me look
[10:32] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, as I know very little about that maybe you can have a look at this: https://launchpad.net/people/?name=chinese&searchfor=all
[10:33] <yeonhoo> how to see ip on console?
[10:33] <yeonhoo> what command should i input?
[10:33] <neo911> yeonhoo, ifconfig
[10:33] <Overand> neo911: yes, in all-in-one gestures, you do 'down-up' to duplicate current tab in a new window
[10:33] <neo911> yeonhoo, be careful to choose the correct interface if you're gonna use the ip output of ifconfig on some other task you want to do
[10:34] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi, I believe you can get some of these people on IRC
[10:34] <neo911> Overand, down-up?
[10:34] <Overand> neo911: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=12&application=firefox
[10:34] <neo911> Overand, ah ok will follow the link
[10:34] <Overand> neo911: 'all-in-one gestures' is a 'mouse gesture' plugin for firefox.  It has a shortcut that more or less does what you're asking for.
[10:34] <Overand> It's also a totally rad plugin =]
[10:35] <neo911> gosh with this channel and ubuntuforums.org i think i'll be a ubuntu expert in no time if i have nothing else to do :-)
[10:35] <ompaul> zuokanyunqi,  https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-cjk-testers
[10:35] <neo911> very helpful
[10:35] <zuokanyunqi> i use xfce4,but the memory used displayed  by "system load" was not the same as the mommand "free" displayed
[10:35] <Fuzzy76> Any way to find out which package installs libstdc++ ?
[10:35] <neo911> microsoft doesn't have this or maybe does have but you have to pay for tech support
[10:35] <zuokanyunqi> ompaul, ths
[10:35] <Agent_bob> neo911 you already are....  it's all in what you compare too
[10:36] <UH^MERLIN> thats because M$ are money hungry gluttons @ neo
[10:36] <ompaul> neo911, you can pay me and i give better support than IRC I call around and fix the box :)
[10:36] <neo911> Agent_bob, what do you mean i already am?
[10:36] <ompaul> mind you you would have to get visas sorted and organise plane tickets :)
[10:36] <Frogzoo> Fuzzy76: apt-cache search libstdc++
[10:36] <Overand> neo911: there *are* good support forums and channels for windows
[10:37] <Overand> but that's -offtopic
[10:37] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:37] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:37] <ompaul> so you can risk talking about it there ^^^^^
[10:37] <Overand> ompaul: already there, and i have no interest in going any further than saying 'they exist.'
[10:38] <neo911> Agent_bob, ah i c wht you mean, i've a long way to go tho'
[10:38] <Agent_bob> talking about windows is almost as bad as typing "dcc.send"
[10:38] <ompaul> Agent_bob, don't go there
[10:38] <Fuzzy76> thanks Frogzoo
[10:38] <Frogzoo> np
[10:38] <Agent_bob> where ompaul ?
[10:38] <neo911> Overand,  are there? hmm well i havent used my XP install in the last 4 days since i used ubuntu
[10:38] <ompaul> Agent_bob,  exactly
[10:38] <Fuzzy76> is there any way to do an in-place repair/reinstall of a package? The warning I got when trying to remove libstdc++ freaked me out. :p
[10:39] <Agent_bob> what is the deal with that anyway ompaul ?
[10:39] <ompaul> Agent_bob, talk to me in #ubuntu-offtopic about that
[10:39] <Agent_bob> i've see the result in here but why is it happening ?
[10:39] <Agent_bob> k
[10:40] <neo911> Overand, i'll try the links, thx btw
[10:40] <max> i am new
[10:41] <max> not quite familiar with the system
[10:41] <Frogzoo> max - start with the 'Gnome Help' (click on the lifesaver icon)
[10:41] <Fuzzy76> nevermind. it works now :)
[10:43] <max> i am still using xp  which is easier for me but linux is more fazinating
[10:43] <neo911> there really is one comment i have atm on ubuntu, i cant make the power saving modes activate after the idle period
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> neo911: could be incomplete chipset support for your laptop.
[10:44] <ben_> max you're a lazy man
[10:44] <max> i am not it is all new for me and i am not wizzard
[10:45] <neo911> fyrestrtr, but am using a "popular" h/w, it's a dell box.
[10:45] <neo911> one
[10:45] <neo911> sorry
[10:45] <ben_> be  patient
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> neo911: what model?
[10:45] <equador> how remove not empty directory with this files ?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> equador: ?
[10:46] <equador> sudo rmdir xxx
[10:46] <neo911> fyrestrtr, dell inspiron
[10:46] <equador> cannot remove it is not empty
[10:46] <equador> i want remove dir with his files
[10:46] <max> just had ubunt yesterday installed and i feel being on ice
[10:46] <ben_> sudo rm -Rd *
[10:46] <gnomefreak> max: the more you use ubuntu the easier it will get
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> equador: rm -f directory
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> max: its like that with anything new, you just have to give it the time to get used to it.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> max: start with simple useful commands like sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:47] <neo911> fyrestrtr, i want it to be like the XP install, after i leave it for an hour, it turns off but when i press the power on button, it shows up all the previous;y opened apps before it turned itself off
[10:47] <max> can you give me some hint simple task simple exe
[10:47] <Frogzoo> max - start with the 'Gnome Help' (click on the lifesaver icon)
[10:48] <equador> sudo rm -Rd * when i type this
[10:48] <equador> all files gone
[10:48] <gnomefreak> max: what do you mean simple task simple exe?
[10:48] <equador> what now i can do ?
[10:48] <equador> ben_,  recommend write this, and all files, folders dwas gone
[10:48] <equador> :(((((
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> neo911: that's suspend mode, you can set that up from within gnome I think.
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> neo911: I don't have a laptop with ubuntu otherwise I would help :(
[10:50] <max> i am not familiar with the abriviation in xp it is very simple to understand i an 67  years old and try to learn a new system
[10:50] <h4x0r|> where i can download dapper 6.04 ?
[10:50] <equador> ben_,  recommend write rm -Rd*  and all files, folders was gone
[10:50] <snowblink> equador, * means all files.
[10:50] <h4x0r|> someone knows ?
[10:50] <equador> what now i can do ?
[10:50] <snowblink> !tell h4x0r| about dapper
[10:50] <equador> how restore files
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> equador: you can't
[10:50] <neo911> max what do you want to do?
[10:50] <ben_> *=all files yes.
[10:50] <max> learn
[10:51] <snowblink> ben_, which is not what he wanted to do.
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> max: what task are you trying to do? For example, browse the internet.
[10:51] <equador> _ben thank you for help, you remove all my files nad more...
[10:52] <snowblink> equador, don't run commands you find anywhere (web pages, irc) unless you know what they do first.
[10:52] <ben_> really ? Sorry, I misunderstood
[10:52] <max> just for my personel use
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell max about cli
[10:52] <equador> now im a very happy
[10:52] <equador> :XXXXXXXXXxx
[10:52] <gnomefreak> max: i would get somewhat familier with those commands on the links in your pm
[10:53] <ben_> when I've empty directory I use rm -Rd * on the directory.
[10:53] <max> ok will try
[10:53] <snowblink> ben_, that will delete all files in your current directory
[10:53] <snowblink> ben_, what if you ran that command one level up?
[10:54] <ben_> ok let's have a look
[10:54] <gnomefreak> max: for the most part ubuntu can do most of what youve done on windows ;)
[10:54] <neo911> ubotu tell neo911 about cli
[10:54] <ben_> you have /tmp/empty1 and /tmp/empty2
[10:54] <ben_> dir empty1 and empty2 are empty
[10:54] <max> to gnome freak thank you
[10:54] <gnomefreak> yw max
[10:55] <ben_> rm -Rd /tmp/*
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> max: just ask if you need to know how to do something specific.
[10:55] <skip> does anybody know if DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are available in a Ubuntu repository somewhere?
[10:55] <ben_> you delete empty1 and empty2, is that what do max want ?
[10:55] <max> will do thank's again
[10:55] <snowblink> ben_, you wipe out everything in /tmp not just the directories you want to delete
[10:56] <ben_> you're right
[10:57] <ben_> need to rm -f /tmp/empty1
[10:57] <Agent_bob> rm -fr /tmp/empty?     <--- get them both in one shot
[10:58] <MrMonster> evening all
[10:58] <max> i live in Peterborough /ON and there is no one who uses linux except one
[10:58] <Agent_bob> gooday auzi
[10:59] <MrMonster> :)
[10:59] <max> you guys are all familiar with this system i am right
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> max: You mean me, or should that read except two?
[10:59] <MrMonster> just wondering if someone here could offme a spot of advice / help regarding an install
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> MrMonster: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[10:59] <maradong> Mr_Morden; just go ahead, leave the meta questions aside and ask :)
[10:59] <MrMonster> fair enuf,
[11:00] <max> i am the first time on a chatting side
[11:00] <lcore> Might be OT - if so plz reditrect.stunnel q: I'm following http://www.stunnel.org/examples/syslog-ng.html. The question is whether I need to open port 5140 on *client* machine? And just to be sure I do need an open tcp :5140 on server, yeah?
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> max: There's a LUG too, it meets every other Thursday night I think.
[11:00] <max> where
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> max: I'll find out, some random place.  (I can never make it b/c I have class then.)
[11:01] <Agent_bob> hmmm if you expect users to leave off meta questions, shouldn't packagers leave out meta packages ?
[11:01] <MrMonster> kernel panics with something about disks not being in sync
[11:01] <maradong> Mr_Morden; hm
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> MrMonster: does the livecd work?
[11:01] <MrMonster> I believe I need the i20 drivers to support the card
[11:01] <MrMonster> fyrestrtr, the 4.10 live CD which I had kicking around boots fine but didn't see the RAID,
[11:02] <Agent_bob> grab a 5.10 ?
[11:02] <MrMonster> some sort of i20 drivers were loading as I saw them scroll past before panic time
[11:02] <max> tonyyarussu you can write to me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>would be appriciated
[11:02] <MrMonster> yeah, will grab 5.1 tonite and try again in the morning.
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> max: Check out http://plugintolinux.ca/index.shtml; it's got the info you need.
[11:02] <MrMonster> I've tried the 5.1 normal install CD, as well as the ubuntu-server 5.1 cd
[11:03] <Agent_bob> year month 5 10     not  5 1  :)
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> max<EMAIL_ADDRESS>here.
[11:03] <MrMonster> of course the official line from asus is only redhat enterprise or suse enterprise
[11:03] <max> well gentlement I am off take a second nab
[11:03] <h4x0r|> anyone have installed ATI graphics card drivers and get them work properly ?
[11:03] <max> tscha
[11:04] <ubushine> h4x0r|, thousands of us
[11:04] <h4x0r|> ubushine, ok. i havent installed them yet..havent needed them
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> h4x0r|: I used the proprietary driver for a bit, but got annoyed by the console switching bug, so then I set the driver to 'radeon' instead of 'fglrx' (originally 'ati').
[11:05] <h4x0r|> havent played anything
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> !video
[11:05] <ubotu> fyrestrtr: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> hrmm
[11:05] <equador> !lt
[11:05] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, equador
[11:05] <equador> !lithuania
[11:05] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, equador
[11:05] <Agent_bob> MrMonster yeah every body likes "pay to play"    sad really.
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> !li
[11:06] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Dang.
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> h4x0r|: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[11:06] <ph8> Hey guys, in windows a 'hotkey' combination will turn my wireless card on/off - do you know if there's anyway to do this in ubuntu?
[11:06] <conn> question: I have two machines connected via NAT, both running Ubuntu. Can someone suggest a quick way to share the apt-cache to avoid having to download everything twice from Ubuntu's servers when updating/installing via apt-get?
[11:06] <MrMonster> agent_bob, annoying isn't it :) I found a netinst image for deb that includes the needed drivers but its for AMD64, not intel :(
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> ph8: what brand laptop is it?
[11:06] <ph8> dell inspiron
[11:06] <Agent_bob> ;/
[11:06] <h4x0r|> fyrestrtr: thanks...meaby that helps little :)
[11:07] <h4x0r|> i have ATI X300, pretty old tho
[11:07] <h4x0r|> Radeon X300
[11:07] <conn> ph8: i8kutils?
[11:07] <ph8> i'll give it a go - cheers
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> h4x0r|: I think that's the same as mine, bought the lappy last June.
[11:08] <MrMonster> any other ideas for installing on hardware RAID 5? I'm grabbing the latest dapper to see if that helps
[11:08] <ubushine> conn check out apt-proxy
[11:08] <conn> ubushine, I'll check it out, thanks
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> h4x0r|: that's the same on I have, its not that old. Just bought my laptop in October.
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> conn: rsync
[11:08] <h4x0r|> fyrestrtr: well i have table PC
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> table?
[11:09] <h4x0r|> desktop i mean
[11:09] <h4x0r|> desktop
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> oh
[11:09] <h4x0r|> :)
[11:09] <h4x0r|> with PCI-E
[11:09] <h4x0r|> PCI-E, Radeon X300
[11:09] <Agent_bob> oooh dapper is kinda unstable atm MrMonster.   if that server is critical, you may not want to run prelease on it.
[11:10] <h4x0r|> tonyyarusso: do you have desktop and Radeon X300 working properly with Open GL ?
[11:10] <MrMonster> agent_bob, thats what I was thinking. Are there any newer install CD's that feature newer kernels than whats on the 510 release?
[11:10] <Agent_bob> errr pre-release ^
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> if that's a server, you may not want to run ubuntu on it.
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> try CentOS
[11:11] <MrMonster> fyrestrtr, well I was not wanting to run ubuntu with full interface,
[11:11] <Agent_bob> MrMonster no. sorry.   not without going  pre-release
[11:11] <MrMonster> centos, thats the redhat enterprise based one isn't it?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> aye
[11:11] <MrMonster> so its very server happy and supports servery hardware too then?
[11:11] <Agent_bob> 5 10 is latest  untill daper is released.
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> I would think so, especially if Asus tells you that RHE is supported ;)
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> h4x0r|: Only if that's on the default...I haven't added anything for Open GL, I know that.
[11:12] <MrMonster> so centos is ddeerived from RHE, meaning that hopefully RHE drivers etc will run under centos? sounds like what I need,
[11:12] <MrMonster> alll it needs is apt then...
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> MrMonster: I think it comes with yum, but not sure.
[11:13] <h4x0r|> tonyyarusso: i mean OpenGL sofware works fine @ your PC
[11:13] <MrMonster> well, there's tonites download,
[11:13] <h4x0r|> games etc.
[11:13] <MrMonster> and tomorrow is centos day
[11:13] <MrMonster> doesn't mean I'm not going to keep playing with ubuntu on the desktop thou
[11:13] <allu> hi
[11:14] <allu> is there any chance of playing wmv files on ubuntu ppc, where the w32codecs do not work?
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> h4x0r|: They're slow fps now.  We're pretty good with fglrx, but I really didn't need the acceleration, and I do need console switching, so I'm going with this setup until that bug is fixed.
[11:15] <topyli> allu: the gstreamer ffmpeg plugin might work, but not for the nastiest files
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> Oh my.  *were.  The apostrophe police would kill me...
[11:17] <UH^MERLIN> my birthday is in 3 days, turning 21 w007!
[11:17] <allu> damn, I already have those installed :(
[11:19] <angeliang> hi
[11:20] <angeliang> checking for BASE_DEPENDENCIES... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.8.5    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met
[11:20] <angeliang> anyone have any idea how to solve this error
[11:20] <angeliang> ?
[11:21] <ubushine> angeliang, have you tried installing those packages?
[11:23] <Hagbard23> I have a problem with the installation of eclipse: aptitude always gives errors when installing e.g. ecj-bootstrap-gcj and quits. I can't install or uninstall those packages. The error is: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: eclipse-platform.db. Can someone help me?
[11:25] <Hagbard23> Is there a possibility to forcely remove a package?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: did you install java?
[11:26] <vax__> hello everyone
[11:26] <Hagbard23> yes. Java is installed. After I got these errors I downloaded and installed java from the Sun HP. But no good.
[11:26] <Agent_bob> chow vax__
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: did you run sudo update-altermatives --config java?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> alternatives*
[11:27] <Hagbard23> no. I'll try...
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: run that than pick the newest java it lists
[11:28] <Hagbard23> didn't help
[11:28] <Hagbard23> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:28] <Hagbard23> Richte ecj-bootstrap-gcj ein (3.0.1-4ubuntu6) ...
[11:28] <Hagbard23> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: eclipse-platform.db
[11:28] <Hagbard23>    at gnu.gcj.runtime.PersistentByteMap.<init> (libgcj.so.6)
[11:28] <Hagbard23>    at gnu.gcj.tools.gcj_dbtool.Main.main (gcj-dbtool-4.0)
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: im assuming you installed the eclipse-platform or whatever the name is
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: if you did please run sudo apt-get -f install
[11:30] <cube> witam
[11:30] <cube> hello
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: you might also need to change the environmental values for java (not usre how on linux i only remember window and thats even a stretch
[11:32] <gnomefreak> bb in like 1 min need to log out for a sec
[11:32] <intelikey> this is rediculess.  i've tried every "stile" fluxbox offers and the xedit background is white in every one of them.   who the hell wants white backgrounds in their apps ?
[11:33] <briceg> can someone help me about problme of gd librairie?
[11:33] <Jimmy23> hi how to install an ati radeon 9600 with 3d support?
[11:33] <intelikey> !ati
[11:33] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:33] <Jimmy23> in the wiki i have found many ways but whats the rigth way?
[11:34] <UH^MERLIN> can GAIM connect to more than 1 IRC server @ the same time? i tried the commands "/connect" , "/join" and "/server" and there telling me no such commands
[11:35] <intelikey> errr ummm  /newserv ?
[11:35] <intelikey> not sure
[11:35] <damian__> Hi, just wondering whats the thing i enable to have transperency and shadows etc.
[11:35] <UH^MERLIN> nope
[11:35] <UH^MERLIN> says
[11:35] <UH^MERLIN> no such command
[11:36] <Hagbard23> gnomefreak: apt-get -f didn't help. Same error. Problem is, that I can't install or update any packages, because of this errors. He always trys to fix it and then he quits.
[11:36] <sfar-ubu> hm, i have a panel at the bottom of my screen, and it has the double height (2 rows).. so the window list is 2 rows, but my quicklaunch-icons is not on two rows.. the icons are bigger
[11:36] <intelikey> hehhe /help   maybe lol
[11:36] <sfar-ubu> i want them small and on two rows also.. is it possible to fix?
[11:36] <UH^MERLIN> no such command
[11:36] <UH^MERLIN> LOL
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: sudo apt-get -f install is to fix broken packages
[11:36] <UH^MERLIN> hey heres another question
[11:36] <UH^MERLIN> by default
[11:36] <UH^MERLIN> Ubuntu has GNOME installed
[11:37] <Hagbard23> gnomefreak: Yes, I know. But it doesn't work
[11:37] <UH^MERLIN> how can i install KDE instead?
[11:37] <sfar-ubu> UH^MERLIN: try "man gaim" in terminal
[11:37] <gnomefreak> UH^MERLIN: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: is this on dapper or breezy?
[11:37] <Hagbard23> I always get the IllegalArgumentException.
[11:37] <Hagbard23> Breezy
[11:38] <intelikey> or just  kdebase if you prefer.
[11:38] <Mabus06> A 900mb zip file has stopped downloading about 95% into it... what can I do?
[11:38] <UH^MERLIN> okay
[11:38] <UH^MERLIN> i think KDE is isntalling
[11:38] <UH^MERLIN> do A BUNCH of stuff
[11:38] <UH^MERLIN> doing*
[11:38] <Hagbard23> gnomefreak: I would be happy if I just could remove those packages...
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: im thinking thats a envionmental varible issue (its been so long)
[11:39] <UH^MERLIN> @Mabus next tie ue a dload manager =D
[11:39] <intelikey> Mabus06 wget -c <url>    to continue the dl
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: im not sure why you cant remeove it
[11:39] <intelikey> in the dir where the partial dl is...
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Hagbard23: what type of error do you get when trying to remove it?
[11:39] <Mabus06> intelikey: how do I specify what file to use to continue? I was downloading with firefox
[11:40] <UH^MERLIN> whats the ratio of KDE to GNOME users in here?
[11:40] <intelikey> get the url from ff of the dl and feed it to wget.... ?
[11:40] <UH^MERLIN> what is superior?
[11:40] <Hagbard23> gnomefreak: Same error in the post-removal script
[11:40] <intelikey> i don't use ff so i don't know where the partial is...
[11:40] <anstei> UH^MERLIN, there is no "superior", they target different users
[11:40] <UH^MERLIN> i saw this pretty cool KDE hack/mod on TV i wanna try out
[11:41] <intelikey> probably some place in ~/.mozilla-firefox     or the like.
[11:41] <sfar-ubu> What does the special flag "sticky" mean?
[11:41] <liable> uninstall it?
[11:41] <UH^MERLIN> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:41] <UH^MERLIN> i typed that in
[11:41] <intelikey> nothing on most systems. sfar-ubu
[11:42] <UH^MERLIN> when it's all done
[11:42] <UH^MERLIN> will i just restart and KDE be installed?
[11:42] <sfar-ubu> hm, ok :)
[11:42] <carcrashnights> I'm having difficulty finding SSIDs using a Cisco Aironet 340 card.
[11:42] <intelikey> man chmod  to learn all about it.
[11:42] <anstei> UH^MERLIN, yes, you can select upon login what you want to use
[11:42] <gnomefreak> UH^MERLIN: just log out nad choose kde from seesions on log-in screen
[11:42] <UH^MERLIN> neet
[11:42] <carcrashnights> From iwlist, i get "Failed to read scan data : No data available"
[11:43] <UH^MERLIN> sorta like dual enviroments? @ anstei
[11:43] <carcrashnights> The card works, and I am able to connect to random networks, but I do not know how to search and specify the correct one.
[11:44] <anstei> UH^MERLIN, i don't know what you mean with "dual environment", but every time you log in, you can choose which one you want to use,
[11:47] <heyjoe2> could someone give me a hand with a frostwire install: im trying sudo dpkg -i "filename' and its not working
[11:47] <fiendskull9> heyjoe2, why not hjust use limewire?
[11:48] <heyjoe2> fiendskull9: cos id probably have problems with that too
[11:48] <heyjoe2> ill ask again later, gtg
[11:48] <fiendskull9> ok
[11:48] <pvd2006> Hmm when trying to use wine and when trying to run XLOAD I got this same error, Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[11:48] <fiendskull9> 4:48 am here, and im still going without cofee
[11:48] <fiendskull9> lol
[11:49] <pvd2006> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[11:49] <intelikey> defoma
[11:49] <damian__> Hi, just wondering whats the thing i enable to have transperency and shadows etc.
[11:49] <damian__> Hi, just wondering whats the thing i enable to have transperency and shadows etc.
[11:50] <kbrooks> so....
[11:50] <nathanj> does anyone know how to get the little ascii arrows orking in linux? the little ones that go >>
[11:51] <carcrashnights> damian__, you're probably interested in Xgl.
[11:52] <intelikey> arrows ?  i didn't even see the indians ?
[11:52] <intelikey> that must be a local thing............. sorry.
[11:54] <kbrooks> !dapper
[11:54] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq).  I keep typing kill numberhere and it wont shut down.
[11:55] <pvd2006> It is xload
[11:55] <intelikey> sudo killall xload
[11:55] <nathanj> </join #ubuntu+1
[11:55] <pvd2006> intelikey, not even that worked
[11:56] <intelikey> zombie process ?
[11:56] <intelikey> already dead.... you cant kill the dead.
[11:56] <woland_> kill -9 pid
[11:56] <nathanj> how do i change my encoding?
[11:56] <UH^MERLIN> i think the install of KDE is done
[11:57] <UH^MERLIN> it just stopped scrolling all that stuff in Terminal
[11:57] <UH^MERLIN> and its @ the type line prompt
[11:57] <UH^MERLIN> do i just restart?
[11:57] <intelikey> nathanj sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale
[11:57] <nathanj> intelikey: what should i make it lol i am tryung to get the little >> ascii char
[11:57] <intelikey> C   maybe ?
[11:58] <nathanj> intelikey: not installed should I instakll it?
[11:58] <intelikey> huh ?
[11:58] <kbrooks> UH^MERLIN, no need to restart
[11:58] <ompaul> UH^MERLIN, for best results sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <pvd2006> Woland_, Thanks
[11:58] <UH^MERLIN> ompaul: i did that
[11:58] <pvd2006> it worked
[11:58] <UH^MERLIN> and it installed it
[11:58] <ompaul> UH^MERLIN, kewl
[11:58] <UH^MERLIN> and got to the point
[11:58] <UH^MERLIN> where a blue screen in termianl came up
[11:58] <UH^MERLIN> i hit ok\
[11:58] <UH^MERLIN> then chose
[11:59] <UH^MERLIN> kdexx
[11:59] <kbrooks> Seveas, hi
[11:59] <UH^MERLIN> and now nothings happening
[11:59] <kbrooks> Seveas, 6 am here
[11:59] <liable> !enter
[11:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:59] <intelikey> C is no incoding.  as in just use the C code that is already in the bios and kernel    it should be at the very top of the list nathanj
[11:59] <UH^MERLIN> how do i switch to it?\
[11:59] <Seveas> hi
[11:59] <Seveas> kbrooks, noon here
[11:59] <chemaja> just tried to shrink my ntfs (/dev/hda1) as part of the Breezy installer CD's installer. the installer reported the partition as 12.5GB, shinkable to a min 10.5GB. I chose this minimum value, walked away, came back, and the installer was back at the "show partitions" screen. the
[11:59] <nathanj> intelikey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/617757
[12:00] <chemaja> ... /dev/hda1 partition however was still 12.5GB. shouldn't the installer have shrunk it to near the new size?
[12:00] <_martin> Hi. I'm trying to set up a serial mouse in Breezy - I followed instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3839.html
[12:00] <CT|Hyourinmaru> anyone know how to make a mp3 cd with gnomebaker or k3b?
[12:00] <YukiCuss> intelikey, your most recent message is confusing.
[12:00] <intelikey> nathanj there is an s on the end of  locales
[12:00] <chemaja> help appreciated, i'm trying to migrate my data to my ext3 (/dev/hda2) partition, and remove the ntfs partition once and for all :-)
[12:00] <chemaja> ^^
[12:01] <nathanj> intelikey: ta
[12:01] <_martin> but i get : package 'xserverxfree86 is not installed"...
[12:01] <_martin> any idea what I can try next?
[12:01] <intelikey> YukiCuss all my messages are
[12:01] <nathanj> intelikey: and i should select?
[12:01] <YukiCuss> intelikey, in theory, but I'm just wondering about your comments on `C code.'
[12:02] <kbrooks> _martin, what ubuntu?
[12:02] <intelikey> nathanj i'd say try C
[12:02] <_martin> kubuntu breezy
[12:02] <ubushine> chemaja, just got in, what's the prob?
[12:02] <intelikey> YukiCuss it's a trade mark.
[12:02] <nathanj> intelikey: C?
[12:02] <kbrooks> _martin, "xserver-xfree86"
[12:03] <intelikey> nathanj C
[12:03] <nathanj> intelikey: there is no C option
[12:03] <YukiCuss> nathanj, I think he implies the C locale ..
[12:03] <UH^MERLIN> SWEET
[12:03] <sableslayer> wow this OS is the best!!!
[12:03] <sableslayer> :)
[12:03] <chemaja> ubushine, 12.5GB /dev/hda1 (ntfs), 8GB /dev/hda2 (ext3) ... just used breezy CD installer front-end to shink the ntfs to the suggested min of 10.5GB, but after the operation, the partition is still 12.5GB.
[12:03] <nathanj> YukiCuss: i cant see a "C' locale
[12:03] <_martin> kbrooks: yup, that's what i'm trying
[12:03] <UH^MERLIN> i went to system > log off > changed to KDE
[12:03] <jasonX> hi, how knows how can I create a modificated version of dapper drake CD?
[12:03] <UH^MERLIN> this is NIIIIIICE
[12:04] <_martin> sorry, mistyped above
[12:04] <UH^MERLIN> KDE pwns GNOME (that might be raging words)
[12:04] <YukiCuss> UH^MERLIN, I'd be quieter next time. :)
[12:04] <jasonX> hi, who knows how can I create a modificated version of dapper drake CD?
[12:04] <ubushine> chemaja, are you installing now?
[12:04] <nathanj> jasonX: ask once
[12:04] <YukiCuss> !patient
[12:04] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, YukiCuss
[12:04] <kbrooks> _martin, read the full howto. it says "ubuntu warty"
[12:04] <YukiCuss> ubotu, bah!
[12:04] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, YukiCuss
[12:04] <_martin> yup
[12:04] <jasonX> sorry, just to fix a typo
[12:04] <chemaja> Ubugtu, yes, but i've rebooted into Gentoo 2006.0 LiveCD
[12:04] <kbrooks> _martin, not ubuntu breezy
[12:04] <_martin> kbrooks: is there anything similar for breezy?
[12:04] <ubushine> chemaja, why do you need it down to 10.5GB?
[12:04] <chemaja> s Ubugtu ubushine
[12:05] <sableslayer> i tried gentoo but i couldnt get it installed
[12:05] <sableslayer> so i went to ubuntu
[12:05] <sableslayer> and its awesome :)
[12:05] <chemaja> ubushine, there's ~6GB of data i want to move to the ext3
[12:05] <intelikey> nathanj hmmm you are it's not listed here either and it is what i've been using....    ahhh maybe unselect everything and it will fall through to C   ?
[12:05] <YukiCuss> sableslayer, I wouldn't recommend gentoo for anyone who is not a more advanced user ..
[12:05] <UH^MERLIN> @Sable Ubuntu pwnz gentoo
[12:05] <intelikey> in the install it gave the option to use C and i picked it....
[12:06] <nathanj> intelikey: hrmm ok
[12:06] <ubushine> chemaja, i've always had better luck booting from a live cd, use ubuntu live if you have it and install gparted to do the resizing. it's GUI and works great.
[12:06] <sableslayer> well i'd still like to get it installed but i dont know how :\
[12:06] <sableslayer> o well
[12:06] <sableslayer> lol
[12:06] <sableslayer> ill just stick with ubuntu
[12:06] <sableslayer> :)
[12:06] <ubushine> chemaja, do you have a live cd?
[12:06] <ompaul> !enter
[12:06] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:06] <chemaja> ubushine, yes, but i don't know how to determine the new size of the ntfs partition
[12:06] <nathanj> intelikey: i can see them in windows
[12:06] <cyphase> hmm
[12:07] <rixth_> Is trying to enable S-Video out for my laptop (915 graphics) likley to be fruitless?
[12:07] <ubushine> chemaja, your ntfs partition is /dev/hda1?
[12:07] <chemaja> ubushine, i'm in a livecd (gentoo 2006.0)
[12:07] <ubushine> chemaja, does the gentoo live have kparted or gparted?
[12:07] <chemaja> ubushine, yes.
[12:07] <chemaja> ubushine, no.
[12:07] <intelikey> nathanj i'm not sure when the locales are read in.  at boot or at login...
[12:07] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  locale
[12:07] <intelikey> LANG=C
[12:07] <ubushine> chemaja, yes/no what?
[12:08] <intelikey> but i'm definitely set to C
[12:08] <nathanj> intelikey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/617757
[12:08] <UH^MERLIN> omfgz0rz linux is teh masterer
[12:08] <nathanj> oops
[12:08] <nathanj> intelikey: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
[12:08] <chemaja> ubushine, hopefully i've still got a knoppix lying around. note that when i try `ntfsresize -i /dev/hda1' it complains that the partition is dirty, and Windows needs to chkdsk it. Is there a Linux chkdsk for NTFS?
[12:09] <chemaja> ubushine, also note that i can still mount and list files despite the dirty flag
[12:09] <chemaja> ubushine, also note that Windows XP Pro / 2000 Pro installer CDs no longer want to boot my system :(
[12:09] <ubushine> chemaja, hmm dirty ntfs, huh? dunno
[12:10] <intelikey> yeah check cat /etc/environment     nathanj
[12:10] <matko> my phpsysinfo doesnet work after i restarted pc. where shoul be problem?
[12:10] <ubushine> chemaja, you can't just mount /dev/hda1 and copy over what you need then format it?
[12:10] <nathanj> intelikey: same
[12:10] <chemaja> ubushine, yes, ntfsresize (which i presume debian-installer uses) marks it dirty to force a windows fs integrity check
[12:10] <nathanj> matko: is apache running?
[12:10] <chemaja> ubushine, no, not enough disk space
[12:10] <matko> i think yes
[12:10] <nathanj> matko: should work :p
[12:10] <ubushine> chemaja, i thought you wanted to copy some stuff from there? if not why don't you just format it?
[12:10] <intelikey> nathanj ming says LANGUAGE=""
[12:10] <intelikey> LANG=C
[12:11] <chemaja> chemaja, ext3 runs out of space when copying from ntfs
[12:11] <chemaja> er
[12:11] <nathanj> intelikey: mine has LANGUAGE="en_AU:en"
[12:11] <chemaja> ubushine,
[12:11] <chemaja> :)
[12:11] <intelikey> if you want to try setting it by hand and see what happens
[12:11] <nathanj> intelikey: is this definetly why this char aint showing?
[12:12] <chemaja> ubushine, theres 6GB of stuff i want to copy to the ext3, but the ext3 size is limited, and there's no other space on /dev/hda
[12:12] <jasonX> I tried this before https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo, but seems not working with dapper
[12:12] <tazman> newb question, are runlevels 2-5 all identical ?
[12:12] <intelikey> not definetly but likely     i promise you nothing, and ask nothing in return,  if you don't like the free help don't pay for it......
[12:12] <chemaja> ubushine, the plan was: shrink ntfs to min; copy stuff to ext3; remove ntfs; expand ext3 to almost fill disk.
[12:12] <intelikey> :)
[12:13] <tazman> hehe
[12:13] <kbrooks> LOL
[12:13] <ubushine> chemaja, i see. hmmm. that's a rough boat
[12:13] <kbrooks> "it very bad and very nad business to give away software and then refuse to SUPPORT THE SOFTWARE, UNLESS YOU PAY.
[12:13] <kbrooks> This wrong and can be litigated."
[12:13] <kbrooks> SO FUNNY
[12:13] <chemaja> ubushine, at this point i think the problem lies with the breezy installer, given that i've previously manually used this breezy CD to do virtually the same operation.
[12:13] <intelikey> and if you poke too much smot you will piss smell your words.....
[12:13] <intelikey> that's a fact.
[12:13] <chemaja> ubushine, yes, rough :(
[12:14] <ubushine> chemaja, so you can't resize it from gentoo live?
[12:14] <ompaul> kbrooks, who are you quoting?
[12:14] <ompaul> intelikey, language ...
[12:15] <intelikey> english
[12:15] <fiendskull9> howdy again chillin
[12:15] <ompaul> intelikey, hu?
[12:15] <chemaja> ubushine, it won't let me re-resize, it complains that the volume is scheduled for check. i _could_ `--force' it, but that's reportedly dangerous.
[12:15] <intelikey> what ?
[12:15] <ompaul> intelikey, language - bad - warning
[12:15] <intelikey> did i miss spell something ?
[12:15] <fiendskull9> chemaja, are you resizing a partition?
[12:16] <chemaja> ubushine, also also note that i walked away from the breezy installer's resize operation, when i came back it was at that screen which shows the partitions
[12:16] <ompaul> intelikey, and yes I can be serious
[12:16] <chemaja> fiendskull9, yes.
[12:16] <selinium> intelikey, bad lnaguage, bad!
[12:16] <fiendskull9> chemaja, ok, pm me.
[12:16] <kbrooks> ompaul, ubuntu forums user
[12:16] <jayr168> firefox doesnt seem to follow system fonts for use in it's menu.. how to workaround this?
[12:16] <ubushine> chemaja, hmmm. how does ntfsresize know that hda is scheduled for check?
[12:16] <intelikey> i really fail to see what all the warnings are about.....  i didn't say anything wrong.
[12:17] <sfar-ubu> where should i put my wallpapers so that they show up in the "Desktop Background"-menu ?
[12:17] <chemaja> ubushine, because it can read ntfs?
[12:17] <snowblink> sfar-ubu, anywhere. You have to add them
[12:18] <ubushine> chemaja, have you tried ultimatebootcd. i'm sure there are ntfs checking tools there
[12:18] <sfar-ubu> snowblink: ah.. stupid me :D
[12:18] <sfar-ubu> thank you
[12:18] <ubushine> chemaja, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[12:18] <Kalmari_> finn.... suomesta??
[12:18] <sfar-ubu> snowblink: so where is a good place to store images ? :)
[12:18] <snowblink> sfar-ubu, ~/wallpaper ?
[12:19] <ubushine> chemaja, i would still try another live cd with gparted or try to get gparted into the gentoo cd
[12:19] <Toby24> !ati
[12:19] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:19] <nathanj> intelikey: gege ta any reason why it aint working under UTF8 windows using that doesnt it>
[12:20] <fiendskull9> !logitech
[12:20] <ubotu> [logitech]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[12:21] <intelikey> nathanj utf8 ja me tinks.
[12:21] <sfar-ubu> snowblink: hehe, whats the command for making a folder?
[12:23] <intelikey> nathanj utf8 you won't believe if tell you i'm a christian preacher and i read "piss" streight out of our bible and we use the word without offence,  will you ?
[12:23] <intelikey> selinium i mean
[12:23] <ubushine> chemaja, you could also make a DOS bootdisk and run chkdsk.exe from there on your hda
[12:23] <intelikey> had partial lap over there
[12:23] <chemaja> fiendskull9 & ubushine: no dice. i might just lug this thing to work on Saturday (i'm rostered on) and see what i can do with an office full of PCs
[12:23] <chemaja> :)
[12:23] <chemaja> ie. rip hdd and chkdisk on a live windows box
[12:23] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, mkdir
[12:24] <chemaja> and burn my shize to a DVD or two
[12:24] <sfar-ubu> anyone can answer that btw :p
[12:24] <intelikey> and guys that was supposed to be in the pm with the other,
[12:24] <ubushine> chemaja, yup. good luck. you'll need chkdsk for this
[12:24] <sfar-ubu> thnx LesleyW
[12:24] <chemaja> ubushine, thanks.
[12:25] <ubushine> chemaja, all the best
[12:25] <bigfoot1> what version of macromedia flash do i have?
[12:25] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:26] <raddy> anybody using AIXGL?
[12:26] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, you're welcome. you may also need "rmdir". Use "man -k" to look for keywords in manual. "man man" to find out how to use manual.
[12:26] <drummer87> hello
[12:27] <bigfoot1> what version of macromedia flash do people using ubuntu have?
[12:28] <ubushine> bigfoot1, which ever version you install
[12:29] <selinium> bigfoot1, 7
[12:29] <bigfoot1> ubushine: how do i know which i've installed?
[12:29] <ubushine> bigfoot1, right-click on a flash object in your browser
[12:29] <bigfoot1> selinium: aw, shuchks. there's a flash movie that i want to watch, but it uses version 8!!! what must we do?
[12:29] <selinium> ubushine, there is only an official 7 flash plugin
[12:30] <selinium> bigfoot1, hassle the Macromedia forums...
[12:30] <ubushine> selinium, sure but you could find an older version or maybe you didn't install the latest security fix
[12:30] <liable> LesleyW: turn that off. if the ops see it, the will +b you.
[12:30] <bigfoot1> Ubugtu: what are you saying to selinium? That's there's something more recent than version 7 for us?
[12:31] <intelikey> so what is LesleyW doing that is taboo  ?
[12:31] <bimberi> !away
[12:31] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. See http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
[12:31] <ubushine> bigfoot1, i think there was a new security update last week
[12:31] <liable> away /msg
[12:31] <intelikey> i'm learning lots of new things this morning...
[12:32] <bigfoot1> bimberi: what's a "public away" message?
[12:32] <selinium> ubushine, bigfoot1 http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash   is the latest official version. Honestly!
[12:32] <gnomefreak> me too :(
[12:32] <YukiCuss> bigfoot1, scroll up. `* LesleyW is away: Got stuff to do, I'll be back'
[12:32] <Hagbard23> gnomefreak: I have done it. My libgcj was broken. I downloaded the package and installed it with dpkg and now it works. Thanks.
[12:32] <intelikey> the default in several irc clients.   "announce away"
[12:32] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:32] <Toby24> Hi
[12:33] <Toby24> i have start the ati installation (!ati)
[12:33] <intelikey> hehhe and some like this one default to auto away also.
[12:33] <Toby24> but there is no .deb file
[12:33] <bigfoot1> ubushine: i checked selinium's link. it's ver 7. does this update you mention make it to version 8?
[12:33] <Toby24> when the ati installer have finished
[12:33] <Toby24> only a .changes file
[12:33] <ubushine> bigfoot1, nope. that's all there is
[12:33] <selinium> bigfoot1, I didn't mention an update, there isn't one....
[12:33] <bigfoot1> okay. guess we just have to wait for version 8.
[12:34] <bigfoot1> selinium: you didn't, but ubushine did
[12:34] <Toby24> can somebody help me?
[12:34] <heyjoe-away> can someone help me with installing frostwire. i tried sudo dpkg -i "name" and it didnt work
[12:34] <selinium> sorry, read it wrong :)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Toby24: i thought ati packages were flgxr or something like that
[12:34] <bigfoot1> can't the linux community come up with their own compatible opensource version 8 of flash?
[12:34] <Toby24> yes there is an ati installer (you can see it at !ati)
[12:34] <intelikey> gnomefreak i could sware i saw one.....   let me help you look.      /me goes to look
[12:35] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: im thinking thats not all that easy since flash is non-free
[12:35] <Toby24> the installer make costum packages for ubuntu ore other distribuntiins
[12:35] <gnomefreak> heyjoe-away: did you download the .deb?
[12:35] <BockBilbo> hello
[12:36] <ubushine> heyjoe-away, why did you do dpkg. and not apt-get?
[12:36] <UH^MERLIN> hello block\
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ty intelikey
[12:36] <UH^MERLIN> bock*
[12:36] <heyjoe-away> ubushine: im very new to linux, ill try apt-get and yes i dloaded the deb
[12:37] <DarkDream> hi :)
[12:37] <ubushine> heatxsink, you can do apt-get install frostwire or use synaptic (it's GUI)
[12:37] <ubushine> sorrry meant heyjoe-away
[12:37] <heyjoe-away> ubushine: i tried sudo apt-get FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb
[12:37] <heyjoe-away>  and it was no good. any ideas
[12:38] <DarkDream> I need help about rights
[12:38] <matko> what should i do with this?
[12:38] <matko> * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                                              (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[12:38] <matko> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[12:38] <matko> Unable to open logs
[12:38] <matko>                                                                                [fail]
[12:38] <ubushine> heyjoe2, just apt-get install frostwire
[12:38] <lunari> w00t
[12:38] <DarkDream> I don't understand why I'm allowed to remove a file.
[12:38] <DarkDream> -rwx---r--  1 root           root  3848 Mar 23 11:56 Labos.txt
[12:38] <DarkDream> virtualstudent@palma:~$ rm Labos.txt
[12:38] <DarkDream> rm: remove write-protected regular file `Labos.txt'? y
[12:38] <lunari> My first apt-get dist-upgrade went successfully! from warty to hoary!
[12:38] <karim> ompaul: Hi ompaul, anything new for the OpenVPN?
[12:38] <DarkDream> Any Idea ?
[12:38] <DarkDream> Thanks :)
[12:39] <heyjoe2> ubushine: package frostwire has no installation candidate
[12:39] <bimberi> dark: because you have rwx on the directory?
[12:39] <Matthewv> DarkDream,  what happens next?? after rm: remove write-protected regular file `Labos.txt'? y
[12:39] <ubushine> heyjoe2, you need to enable the universe repositories?
[12:39] <bimberi> DarkDream: ^^^^ (sorry dark)
[12:39] <lunari> :)
[12:39] <heyjoe2> ubushine: already have
[12:39] <DarkDream> bimberi yes. It's a root file in the folder of a user
[12:40] <ubushine> heyjoe2, then do apt-cache search frostwire
[12:40] <ubushine> see if it's there
[12:40] <DarkDream> So if the user is able to wrx so he can remove the file of the root ?
[12:40] <rixth_> Is an attache case unsuitable to take to highschool?
[12:40] <heyjoe2> ubushine: but i just had a problem with my synaptic so they may have disappeared
[12:40] <rixth_> I mean, would I get called a fag?
[12:40] <lunari> Is upgrading from hoary to breezy the same process as going from warty to hoary?
[12:40] <YukiCuss> rixth_, a) attache? b) #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <bimberi> DarkDream: i'm not totally sure, looks like it, i'm experimenting atm :)
[12:40] <DarkDream> bimberi no pb :)
[12:41] <rixth_> YukiCuss, aight.
[12:41] <pvd2006> Hmm, when I try to install Kubuntu-desktop through synaptic manager it says, Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[12:41] <YukiCuss> rixth_, c) what's wrong with homosexuals, anyway? :)
[12:41] <DarkDream> thanks :)
[12:41] <ubushine> heyjoe2, go into terminall and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:41] <rixth_> YukiCuss, nothing at all!     Who can tell why?
[12:42] <fiendskull9> how could i chmod all the directorys in a dir in a batch proscess?
[12:42] <YukiCuss> !botsnack :)
[12:42] <fiendskull9> instead of one by one
[12:42] <ubotu> :)
[12:42] <ompaul> rixth_, that conversation is not for here
[12:42] <fiendskull9> !chmod
[12:42] <ubotu> [chmod]  a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[12:42] <heyjoe2> ubushine: http://pastebin.com/617802
[12:42] <DarkDream> thanks all :)
[12:43] <DarkDream> byeeee
[12:44] <rixth_> ompaul, I am well aware of that and have taken it to the off topic channel, thank you
[12:44] <ompaul> rixth_, where I answered you
[12:44] <bimberi> DarkDream: from what i can tell if the user is the _owner_ of the directory they can delete any files in it
[12:44] <bimberi> waaaaay to late
[12:44] <southpaw_sniper> hello everyone
[12:44] <bimberi> *too
[12:45] <heyjoe2> ubushine: any idea on how to fix my synaptic and my frostwire?
[12:45] <heyjoe2> ubushine: could tweaking my bootup screw up synaptic?
[12:45] <ubushine> heyjoe2, try these repos or enable the multiverse and try again.   http://pastebin.com/617808
[12:45] <pvd2006> When I try to install kubuntu-desktop through Ubuntu in Synaptic it gives me this error, Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[12:45] <pvd2006> . Anyone know how to get around this?
[12:46] <heyjoe2> ubushine: what exactly do i do?
[12:46] <kingspwned> tried to install konq-plugins by itself first?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> bbl school time
[12:47] <ubushine> heyjoe2, you need to use syaptic to add them (i never use it) or use a text editor of your choice to change them. just backup your other copy of sources.list
[12:47] <southpaw_sniper> when is the next ubuntu release?? i'm kinda excited   C:
[12:47] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[12:47] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:47] <pvd2006> Kingspwned, when I try to install that it gives me an other dependency error
[12:47] <shukhrat> does Dreamviawer work in Linux ?
[12:47] <southpaw_sniper> waaaaaaaaaaa june 1!!!
[12:48] <heyjoe2> ubushine: when i open synaptic i get error message? how do i use synaptic to add them. i've already done the whole "multiverse universe" thing previously
[12:48] <ubushine> heyjoe2, you get an error in synaptic? what is it?
[12:49] <Mabus06> how do you echo "hi" in green?
[12:49] <heyjoe2> ubushine: http://pastebin.com/617810
[12:49] <heyjoe2> ubushine: i think i fixed the multiverse universe thing
[12:49] <southpaw_sniper> anyone here from the philippines??
[12:50] <ubushine> heyjoe2, ok back up your old sources.list than then copy and paste the one i posted for you. and rename it to sources.list and run apt-get update after
[12:50] <BockBilbo> ive asked this problem in #ubuntu+1 but no one answered:
[12:50] <BockBilbo> ive a problem related with the default file browser used in gnome. I use dapper and since my last upgrade 3 days ago, everytime i choose to browse any mounted device from the "sites/places menu" (im not sure about the menu name in english)  on the gnome-panel, it opens konqueror instead of nautilus. The same issue happens if i  click on the link to my Desktop.
[12:50] <BockBilbo> any idea?
[12:51] <heyjoe2> ubushine: where do i copy and paste it to? sources list? how do i access that? sorry if my questions are neophytic, but i am really new to linux, command line etc
[12:51] <intelikey> gnomefreek leave ?
[12:51] <intelikey> that rascle.
[12:51] <sfar-ubu> whats the command to mount a ntfs-partition ?
[12:51] <tazman> ahh, I get it, use Debian docs for the low level admin stuff :-)
[12:51] <ubushine> heyjoe2, from command line do: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:51] <Curtman> Has anyone else here been brave enough to try the VIA VT8251 SATA patch?
[12:52] <heyjoe2> ubushine: ok, itll take a few moments, because i wont be able to get a lock while synaptics updatin
[12:52] <ben_underscore> sfar-ubu, mount -t ntfs
[12:52] <ubushine> heyjoe2, you need to shutdown synaptic
[12:53] <engla> We should make a collection of ubuntu misspellings. Found on the forum: "umbumto"
[12:53] <sfar-ubu> ben_underscore: yea i've figured that out.. "mount -t ntfs /dev/hd2 <what here>"?
[12:53] <ubushine> stardash_, make a mount directory under /mnt/ and then </mnt/yourdir/here>
[12:54] <heatxsink> hahah
[12:54] <heatxsink> I fixed it using AJAX
[12:54] <heatxsink> screw it!
[12:54] <heatxsink> hahahaha
[12:54] <heatxsink> hialrious
[12:54] <heatxsink> oops wrong channel
[12:54] <Phlosten> lol
[12:54] <IdleOne> lmao
[12:54] <southpaw_sniper> i got dsl, i set up my dsl using "sudo pppoeconf" i configured it to connect at startup... but it wont connect at startup... i have to pppoeconf again everytime i want to connect to the net.... help guys
[12:54] <heyjoe2> ubushine: so should i clear everything else in the sources list and then paste what u put in pastebin
[12:55] <ubushine> heyjoe2, yes.
[12:55] <heyjoe2> ubushine: ok i saved it
[12:55] <ubushine> heyjoe2, but don't save it yet
[12:55] <southpaw_sniper> =(
[12:55] <ubushine> heyjoe2, oops. did you back it up first?
[12:55] <heyjoe2> ubushine: nope
[12:55] <ubushine> heyjoe2, oops
[12:55] <heyjoe2> ubushine: shite?
[12:55] <bimberi> southpaw_sniper: does 'sudo pon' work instead of pppoeconf?
[12:56] <ubushine> heyjoe2, ah well.
[12:56] <sfar-ubu> sfar@ububox:/mnt$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/storage/
[12:56] <sfar-ubu> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/storage/ busy
[12:56] <heyjoe2> ubushine: edit undo?
[12:56] <ubushine> heyjoe2, now run apt-get update as sudo
[12:56] <sfar-ubu> ubushine: ^^
[12:56] <heyjoe2> should i try undo?
[12:56] <ubushine> heyjoe2, if you can. i told you to back it up first
[12:56] <IdleOne> !tell heyjoe2 about sources
[12:56] <southpaw_sniper> tnx... wait im going to try it
[12:56] <southpaw_sniper> brb
[12:56] <bimberi> southpaw_sniper: wait
[12:56] <IdleOne> heyjoe2, at that link there is an officail ubuntu repos list if you need
[12:57] <heyjoe2> ubushine: its ok
[12:57] <ubushine> heyjoe2, what's ok?
[12:57] <heyjoe2> ubushine: edit undo works
[12:57] <ubushine> IdleOne, yes, cheers
[12:57] <mediathek> aufs maul!
[12:57] <choi> how do i install FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb?
[12:57] <heyjoe2> ubushine: should i clear it now, then paste what u gave me and dont save?
[12:57] <ubushine> heyjoe2, ok. save it as sources.list.old and then put the one i pasted in there.
[12:57] <intelikey> choi dpkg -i
[12:58] <choi> thnks
[12:58] <intelikey> sudo that of course
[12:58] <snowblink> !tell choi about dpkg
[12:58] <heyjoe2> ubushine: done
[12:58] <ubushine> heyjoe2, so the new sources.list is saved as sources.list?
[12:59] <heyjoe2> ubushine: its asking me if i want to replace the previously name sources.list file. yes? and i can confirm i did save the original as sources.list.old
[12:59] <kenas> hi can someone help me to configure my smb password and usergroup ?
[12:59] <kenas> sorry i mean workgroup
[12:59] <ubushine> heyjoe2, yes
[12:59] <pvd2006> I just installed KDE on Ubuntu, so how can I start it?
[12:59] <Ads_> hi all does anyone remember the command to search and access a wireless hotspot? all i remember was something like iwconfig wlan0 something something i think
[01:00] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, if you do "mount" by itself, do you get line with /mnt/storage in it?
[01:00] <heyjoe2> ubushine:done
[01:00] <intelikey> pvd2006 at the login screen select kde
[01:00] <choi> what the use of -i? in dpkg?
[01:00] <ubushine> now sudo apt-get update
[01:00] <southpaw_sniper> waa
[01:00] <sfar-ubu> LesleyW: hm, what do you mean?
[01:00] <pvd2006> let me try this
[01:00] <snowblink> choi, man dpkg
[01:00] <albinoblacksh33p> i need help
[01:00] <kenas> hi can someone help me to configure my smb password and workgroup ?
[01:00] <intelikey> choi -i = install
[01:00] <southpaw_sniper> nah.... "sudo pon" doesn't work for me
[01:01] <albinoblacksh33p> i dont kno how to install WINE
[01:01] <choi> oic
[01:01] <choi> thnks
[01:01] <heyjoe2> sorry, accidentally closed irc
[01:01] <southpaw_sniper> i have to sudo pppoeconf again =(
[01:01] <IdleOne> albinoblacksh33p, sudo apt-get install wine
[01:01] <albinoblacksh33p> ???
[01:01] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, do this "mount | grep /mnt/storage" and tell me what it says
[01:01] <Ads_> does anyone remember the command to search and access a wireless hotspot? all i remember was something like iwconfig wlan0 something something i think
[01:01] <intelikey> albinoblacksh33p sudo apt-get install wine
[01:01] <albinoblacksh33p> what does that mean
[01:02] <sfar-ubu> LesleyW: its returns nothing
[01:02] <intelikey> that's the command.  put it in a terminal
[01:02] <albinoblacksh33p> o
[01:02] <Curtman> kenas: 'smbpasswd -a username' should set a password for a user who doesn't have one set currently.  (lose the -a to just change a password).  Is that what you need help with?
[01:02] <IdleOne> albinoblacksh33p, type that line in terminal window. apt-get is the tool ubuntu uses to install packages/programs
[01:02] <southpaw_sniper> i dont know what's wrong with  my "sudo pppoeonf"
[01:02] <choi> thnks
[01:02] <southpaw_sniper> sudo pppoeconf
[01:02] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, hm.... thinking...
[01:02] <southpaw_sniper> =(
[01:02] <Elamaton> Hi all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an external firewire drive, but in order to work, the serialize_io=1 parameter is needed. What's the proper way to provide that parameter? (PPC, so using yaboot; 'install sbp2_serialize_io=1' at the prompt didn't work)
[01:02] <sfar-ubu> where can i see what's mounted?
[01:02] <heyjoe2> idleone: who was helping me? i accidentally exited irc for a moment
[01:03] <kenas> Curtman and how to edit smb.conf to change the workgroup
[01:03] <bimberi> southpaw_sniper: :( to hear that.  hm there might be something here though ...
[01:03] <intelikey> sfar-ubu mount
[01:03] <bimberi> !adsl
[01:03] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[01:03] <IdleOne> it was ubushine
[01:03] <Elamaton> after bootup, modprobe -r sbp2 followed by another modprobe with the parameter doesn't work, as the module is already in use
[01:03] <ubushine> heyjoe2, you back?
[01:03] <dli> does ubuntu do something special for xfce? right click on the xfce bar doesn't work
[01:03] <albinoblacksh33p> now how do i start WINE
[01:03] <heyjoe2> ubushine: sorry i accidentally quit
[01:03] <ubushine> heyjoe2, where you at with this?
[01:03] <sfar-ubu> ah, i might have selected the wrong hda :)
[01:03] <heyjoe2> the last thing i did was save sources.list
[01:03] <kenas> how do i know if samba is correctly installed
[01:04] <Rondom> albinoblacksh33p: wine program_name.exe
[01:04] <Curtman> kenas: 'nano -w /etc/samba/smb.conf' (or whatever your favourite text editor is), and change the line that says  'workgroup = MSHOME' to whatever you want.
[01:04] <Rondom> albinoblacksh33p: wine /path/to/program_name.exe
[01:04] <IdleOne> albinoblacksh33p, in terminal type wine programname.exe to install/start a windows program
[01:04] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, try "mount | grep hda5"
[01:04] <bimberi> albinoblacksh33p: wine /path/to/freecell.exe     :)
[01:04] <ubushine> heyjoe2, did you sudo apt-get update?
[01:04] <heyjoe2> not yet
[01:04] <heyjoe2> do now
[01:04] <Rondom> bimberi: freecell sucks
[01:04] <sfar-ubu> LesleyW: again nothing
[01:04] <heyjoe2> ubushine: type just like that?
[01:04] <ubushine> heyjoe2, address me please. easier to follow
[01:05] <sfar-ubu> but i think hda5 might be the swap partition :)
[01:05] <ubushine> yes 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:05] <ubushine> no quotes
[01:05] <bimberi> Rondom: i'm sure it's better than program_name though :P
[01:05] <Rondom> bimberi: indeed
[01:05] <southpaw_sniper> i know how to setup my ds connection using sudo pppoeconf but....my problem is pppoeconf won't connect at startup
[01:05] <albinoblacksh33p> where do i find wine
[01:05] <IdleOne> bimberi,  :P
[01:05] <Ads_> god bless the "man" command
[01:05] <heyjoe2> ubushine: E: Type '1.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <albinoblacksh33p> it says creating new folder
[01:05] <southpaw_sniper> in hoary.... everything works
[01:05] <Rondom> wine and then?
[01:05] <intelikey> albinoblacksh33p wine /path/to/program.exe       what ever you are wanting to run.   you may want  wineserver   also     sudo apt-get install wine-doc   would be a good idea.  so you can reall the docs on it.
[01:06] <ubushine> heyjoe2, what's line 1?
[01:06] <Ads_> !tell Ads_ about wine
[01:06] <Rondom> albinoblacksh33p: which program do you want to run with wine?
[01:06] <heyjoe2> ubushine: i dunno
[01:06] <albinoblacksh33p> world of warcraft
[01:06] <intelikey> reall read
[01:06] <Rondom> ok
[01:06] <heyjoe2> ubushine: how do i check
[01:06] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, yes I thought you said hda2 earlier... tried the mount command again?
[01:06] <Rondom> wine wow.exe or whatever the exe file is called
[01:06] <ubushine> heyjoe2, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <Rondom> what happens
[01:06] <albinoblacksh33p> ???
[01:07] <dli> ubushine, would sudo give you X to run gedit?
[01:07] <albinoblacksh33p> how do i start wine thoi
[01:07] <heyjoe2> ubushine: this is how line one appears- 1.
[01:07] <heyjoe2>       deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[01:07] <kenas> curtman i cannot edit or change something
[01:07] <sfar-ubu> LesleyW: yeah it wr0ked :)
[01:07] <Rondom> albinoblacksh33p: what did you do? what happened? what kind of problems do you have?
[01:07] <sfar-ubu> thanks
[01:07] <albinoblacksh33p> i dont kno how to start wine
[01:07] <Ads_> man everything with my ubuntu installation is perfect the only problem i am having is cpu hoggage :( it's not and nobody can tell me that 256mb of ram on my laptop is not sufficient cos i can run xp pro without a hitch and play some highdef videos even o_O
[01:07] <damian__> type wine to start it...
[01:08] <IdleOne> albinoblacksh33p, in terminal type cd Desktop ( will take you to the Desktop directory ) then type wine wow.exe ( assuming wow.exe is the name of the exe file for WoW )
[01:08] <Curtman> kenas: You need to be root first.  try 'sudo nano -w /etc/samba/smb.conf', and enter your password when it asks.
[01:08] <Elamaton> does the breezy kernel have firewire support built-in or as a module?
[01:08] <ubushine> heyjoe2, you have the "1." there?
[01:08] <Elamaton> firewire disk support, specifically
[01:08] <southpaw_sniper> ???
[01:08] <ubushine> dli, what do you mean?
[01:08] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, yay! I can go to bed now (past midnight here)
[01:08] <intelikey> kenas you can as root.   use  sudo <command>      example; sudo nano file.to.edit
[01:08] <heyjoe2> ubushine: next to 1. there is nothing. the first line of text is on the second line
[01:08] <dli> ubushine, sudo gedit, can not open DISPLAY :0.0
[01:08] <sfar-ubu> hehe.. sleep tight
[01:08] <kenas> ok
[01:08] <damian__> IdleOne whats different when sudoing wine mabey thats why ive had a couple problems?
[01:08] <sfar-ubu> btw, real men never sleep
[01:09] <ubushine> heyjoe2, there should be no 1 there. where did you get that?
[01:09] <Ads_> sudo lick my arse --in anal   :)
[01:09] <IdleOne> albinoblacksh33p, wine doesnt have a GUI ( doesnt really need one but might be helpfull to some ) so you use wine in terminal to startup your windows apps
[01:09] <IdleOne> damian__, you shouldnt need to sudo wine
[01:09] <heyjoe2> ubushine: http://pastebin.com/617831
[01:09] <damian__> ok just wondering
[01:09] <ubushine> dli, try gksudo gedit, then or set your display variable
[01:09] <LesleyW> sfar-ubu, that's okay I'm not a man. :-)
[01:09] <albinoblacksh33p> ok it says it cant find wow
[01:09] <IdleOne> Ads_, language please
[01:09] <albinoblacksh33p> i kno where it is tho
[01:09] <heyjoe2> ubushine: i havent made any knowing manual changes, only changed it in synaptic, where it said universe to 'multiverse universe'
[01:10] <dli> ubushine, no, I do, su
[01:10] <albinoblacksh33p> how do i route it to it
[01:10] <damian__> albinoblacksh33p type "apt-get install xwine"
[01:10] <Ads_> idleone, i was using a medical term o_O
[01:10] <sfar-ubu> LesleyW: hehe, thats what i said :D
[01:10] <ubushine> heyjoe2, where did all those numbers come from. there should be no numbers!!!
[01:10] <damian__> albinoblacksh33p gui for wine this may help u out
[01:10] <ubushine> dli, then do su
[01:10] <intelikey> dli you have x running ?     gedit only works in x
[01:10] <southpaw_sniper> automatix rocks
[01:10] <albinoblacksh33p> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:10] <IdleOne> Ads_, never heard of a doctor licking anything so please keep it clean :|
[01:11] <albinoblacksh33p> cant
[01:11] <Ads_> idleone: lol ok chill out
[01:11] <albinoblacksh33p> cant access lock file
[01:11] <moulty> ayup
[01:11] <heyjoe2> ubushine: i havent been dabbling with it