[10:44] <sil2100> doko: hello! We would need to get miral included in main: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miral/+bug/1651384
[10:45] <doko> sil2100: last work day this year, I try to have a look, but otherwise this has to wait til 2017
[10:47] <sil2100> doko: thanks!
[10:49] <sil2100> greyback: ^
[11:29] <caribou> Is it possible to get someone from the SRU team to get cloud-init  v0.7.8-49-g9e904bb-0ubuntu1~16.04.3 into xenial-proposed pls ?
[11:58] <xnox> i have just realised that I have just two more work days before I'm done for the year \o/
[14:48] <slashd> for sru, could you please take action on "os-prober" [1.70ubuntu3.2] waiting in the Xenial upload queue (importance : CRITICAL) in order for the pkg to be available in -proposed for testing. This solve a missing dependency in 1.70ubuntu3.1 (currently in -proposed) patch that solve a possible risk of corruption. Again .3.1 is already in proposed, I would like the SRU to go on top and 3.1 should definitely not land in -updates
[14:48] <slashd> without 3.2 debdiff on top
[17:00] <slangasek> stgraber, infinity, kees, mdeslaur: TB meeting now?
[17:16] <mdeslaur> slangasek: whoops...sorry...did anyone show up?
[17:29] <GunnarHj> bdmurray: Saw you asked about bug #1633678. Yes, indeed I hope that somebody will upload it - that's why ubuntu-sponsors is subscribed. The proposed uploads are in the linked PPA.
[17:41] <bdmurray> GunnarHj: ack, uploading
[17:41] <GunnarHj> bdmurray: Great, thanks!
[17:54] <tzero> hi guys, new to packaging/maintainership; so far it seems that the packaging process is just a collection of arcane memorization. What's the deal with upstream tarballs? What do maintainers generally do for your normal github project?
[17:54] <nacc> tzero: have you read the packaging guide (probably the debian one)
[17:55] <tzero> nacc: yep, have it up now; wiki.d.o/Packaging/Intro ; it's probably benign, but debuild -us -uc gripes about a lack of upstream tarball
[17:55] <nacc> tzero: right, so you need an orig.tar.gz (roughly) which corresponds to the upstream you are based off of
[17:55] <rbasak> tzero: Github will give you a tarball for any tag.
[17:56] <tzero> what if the project is just a normal github project? with anything more complex than a hello world application the process seems to fall apart
[17:56] <nacc> tzero: oftentimes this can be obtained (if the pacakge already exists) with `pull-debian-source`/`pull-lp-source`. Given your question, i assume you need it from upstream directly, which rbasak indicated. From a packaging perspecitve, you could write a debian/watch file and add the github example
[17:56] <nacc> then uscan/uupdate will download the upstream tarball as specified
[17:57] <tzero> what's the common workflow for just iterating on a set of packaging files in-place? since I'm maintaining the application itself, I can change anything needed, but don't want to have to create tags that aren't needed
[17:57] <rbasak> tzero: it's useful to keep in mind that Debian will package anything.  There does exist tooling to make things easier for your case, but that does necessarily add complexity.
[17:57] <nacc> tzero: well, the tags rbasak mentioned are for upstrema releases
[17:58] <nacc> tzero: which you should already be doing as an upstream :)
[17:59] <nacc> tzero: not sure i follow what you mean by 'iterating on a set of package files' in place? just do it?
[18:02] <tzero> hmm.. so if I create a tag of the current state of things, I can pull a tarball to get around the "
[18:02] <tzero> "error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at"
[18:02] <tzero> sorry, IRC client line break issues...
[18:03] <nacc> tzero: well you tag upstream (totally independent of packaging)
[18:03] <nacc> tzero: then you can, for instance, setup debian/watch (see `man uscan`) to refer to the github page for downloading upstream tarballs
[18:05] <nacc> tzero: there is also debmake (amongst many other tools) to start with an upstream tarball (again, this should alrady exist, independent of packaging) and setup some basic debian-ization
[18:05] <tzero> isn't there a chicken-and-egg problem where I'm working on the files under debian/, I'd have to push those to github, download the upstream tarball, and test if it works? I'd just like to test the package building locally, before pushing the debian/ directory to github and revealing my ignorance to the world :)
[18:05] <nacc> no
[18:06] <nacc> tzero: debian/ is *not* in the upstream tarball normally
[18:06] <tzero> OHH!
[18:06] <nacc> tzero: i think you're making it way more complicated :)
[18:07] <nacc> tzero: upstream tarballs are 'pristine' in some sense -- unaltered upstream sources
[18:07] <nacc> tzero: you may want to read `man dpkg-source`
[18:08] <nacc> tzero: specifically (in your case) the "Format: 3.0 (quilt)" section to understand how the package gets built
[18:08] <tzero> hmm, so unlike RPM, the intermediary source package is required in this case
[18:09] <nacc> tzero: what do you mean by "intermediary source package"? There is an 'orig' tarball, which is not a package, and then a source package (which is what you're building now) and that builds (possibly many) binary packages
[18:12] <tzero> I'm just trying to get a generic concept of what's going on.. in RPM-land, the spec builds either the source package (.src.rpm) or the "desired end result" (.rpm); in arch and gentoo land, it's much more straightforward. but with dpkg/deb/dsc, it seems like the "spec" file builds a dsc, which then is used to create the desired end result (.deb)
[18:12] <nacc> yes it's different in .deb
[18:13] <nacc> there is no 'spec' for one thing :)
[18:13] <nacc> a source package is a '.dsc' file basically
[18:14] <nacc> as the .dsc file includes hashes of the tarballs used
[18:14] <nacc> and the binary packages that get built from it
[18:14] <nacc> you then build a source package into binary packages
[18:15] <tzero> ah ha... gotcha, thanks
[18:18] <tzero> I appreciate the patience and hand-holding; I'll read through some more stuff and see how it goes; thanks again
[18:19] <nacc> tzero: just keep asking questions :)
[18:22] <tzero> I stumbled on pdebuild at some point, it build some .deb files, but those didn't contain any of the application files at all. Is that a wrapper utility over the standard debuild? I found little mention of the .install file, but that seems necessary
[18:23] <nacc> tzero: i don't think you want to use pdebuild/pbuilder
[18:23] <nacc> tzero: i would suggest using sbuild at this point
[18:23] <nacc> tzero: or dpkg-buildpackage itself, if you want
[18:31] <tzero> and dpkg-buildpackage being the lowest-level of those utilities?
[18:37] <nacc> tzero: yes, aiui
[19:11] <infinity> tzero: FWIW, in your above example, spec files and debian/rules are pretty much 100% analogous.  Yes, the way Debian developers prefer to work is to build a .dsc and then feed the .dsc to sbuild to produce debs, but that's no different than building an .srpm and feeding that to a build script to build an .rpm.  It's just that people in RPM land tend to be more reckless. ;)
[19:12] <infinity> tzero: The "reckless" option in deb land is there too, just "dpkg-buildpackage -b" and boom, you have .deb binaries, no need to build the source package first (or just dpkg-buildpackage with no options will build source and binary in one go).
[19:27] <tzero> infinity: whoa, dpkg-buildpackage -b is great
[19:50] <tzero> is there a better way to determine where files should be placed into the filesystem other than override_dh_install? by default, a package.install file containing lines such as 'usr/lib/python*/foo.py' only get included if I prefix the path to 'debian/package'
[19:50] <tzero> and even then, lintian says the files would actually be installed into '/debian/package/usr/lib/...'
[19:53] <tzero> without the .install file, the package only contains the default text files like COPYRIGHT, etc. If it makes a difference, the project has both GTK and Qt frontends, which are distributed as separate packages
[20:00] <rbasak> tzero: you're packaging a Python thing? We have helpers for Python, so if you have a setup.py that works, the packaging effort becomes minimal. See dh_python3(1).
[20:04] <dobey> tzero: generally, you shouldn't need to override_dh_install; by default just having usr/blah/foo in the .install files in multiple-binary-package scenarios should work. only if the files aren't installed via normal build system install rule, would there normally be a problem there
[20:05] <dobey> you shouldn't build with the prefix set to /debian/package
[20:05] <dobey> the defaults should be sufficient
[20:15] <tzero> oh, less is more I guess, whatever blog I initially read said to define a bunch of things
[20:20] <infinity> tzero: Less is definitely more in the new dh(1) style rules files.  An ideal package should require zero overrides, and that's the best position to start from.
[20:21] <infinity> tzero: If something is particularly troublesome, but you feel like it's a something that dozens of other people should surely have suffered (like python modules), you'll often find there's a "dh --with foo" module that does all the heavy lifting.
[20:22] <infinity> tzero: And the added advantage of modules like dh-python, dh-systemd, etc is that they also make sure that, even if your upstream is vaguely Fedora or Arch centric, or just plain old /usr/local FHS, you'll often get magically mangled into something that plays nicely with Debian policy and other packages on the system.
[20:23] <tzero> oh, neat
[20:23] <tzero> is this a relatively new development in debhelper/cdbs?
[20:24] <infinity> Depends on how one defines "new".
[20:25] <infinity> dh(1) came to being in debhelper 7.  Which was in 2008.  But for some of us, that's indeed new. :)
[20:25] <infinity> The subsequent years have involved educating people to stop using cdbs and old-style debhelper rules.
[20:26] <infinity> And people writing clever addon modules to keep debian/rules tiny in the face of complex problems.
[20:28] <nacc> so i think the reason that php-horde-crypt is current stuck in excuses (and failing it's own autopkgtest) is that gpg by default doesn't have any secrets stored. THe debian autopkgtest 'pass' because in their env there is no /usr/bin/gpg and therefore all tests are skipped :/
[20:28] <nacc> any ideas on how to fix that up? or is there a well-established 'set up gpg secrets for testing' example?
[20:29] <infinity> nacc: One could argue that the testbed shouldn't have gpg installed, but unlike builds, where we want minimal pollution to build reproducibly, it's almost better to have slightly dirty systems for running tests.
[20:30] <infinity> nacc: But, that debate aside, if the tests attempt to test a thing when gpg is there, I'd say that (a) gpg is an undeclared test dep, and (b) it should be made to pass said tests.
[20:31] <nacc> infinity: agreed, i can work on (b), although i think primarily it's just lacking a 'configure a fake gpg secret' (based upon some cursory debugging so far that gpg basically complains about there being no secrets)
[20:32] <nacc> infinity: but yeah, it probably should be an explicit dep and the tests should be fixed, you're right
[20:32] <infinity> nacc: As for well-established snakeoil.  I dunno.  Probably not.  But I'd suggest pregenrating an ascii-armored keypair and shipping it with the tests.  Generating keys at runtime is problematic (see, for instance, the kernel hack that starts generating a key at the beginning of the build and hopes enough entropy has been generated by the end that one showed up in the background).
[20:32] <infinity> And, yes, the kernel has lost that race before. :P
[20:32] <nacc> infinity: good idea on the keypair
[20:32] <infinity> Though I think the current iteration of upstream makefiles are more resilient to that, and wait correctly.
[22:31] <vertago1> I am trying to get a package development environment setup for the avahi package but when I check it out with bzr the debian folder is missing. Is there a step I am missing?
[22:31] <nacc> vertago1: is avahi actually maintained in bzr?
[22:31] <vertago1> possibly not
[22:31] <vertago1> It is on launchpad
[22:32] <nacc> vertago1: it's not in bzr
[22:32] <vertago1> ok, so I should use debian's tools?
[22:32] <nacc> vertago1: i'd recommend using `pull-lp-source`
[22:35] <vertago1> I am getting an error with that command so I think I will just forego using bzr with what I am working on then
[22:36] <vertago1> I was trying to figure out the least-headache-way of creating a patch in an existing source package to fix an upstream bug.
[22:39] <nacc> vertago1: my quick and dirty method:
[22:39] <nacc> vertago1: pull-lp-source <srcpkg name>
[22:39] <nacc> vertago1: cd <srcpkg name-version>
[22:40] <nacc> vertago1: git init . [note this can issues if the upstream also uses git and they provide any .git* files in the tarball]
[22:40] <nacc> vertago1: git add .
[22:40] <nacc> vertago1: git commit -m <msg>
[22:41] <nacc> vertago1: do some changes and either commit them as a quilt patch if it's to the source
[22:41] <nacc> s/either//
[22:41] <sarnold> man I have trouble believing -git- is in the quick-and-dirty variant :)
[22:41] <nacc> vertago1: add a changelog entry
[22:41] <vertago1> I know git fairly well so it should work for me.
[22:41] <nacc> sarnold: it's mostly so `git diff` tells you what you broke^Wchanged
[22:42] <nacc> vertago1: so you're backporting an upstream fix?
[22:42] <vertago1> no I am writing a fix to hopefully push upstream
[22:42] <nacc> vertago1: oh, why do you need the ubuntu package at all then?
[22:42] <vertago1> it makes testing it easier
[22:42] <nacc> vertago1: for testing?
[22:42] <vertago1> one of the packages is avahi-daemon
[22:43] <vertago1> so if I can install the package I don't have to mess with the daemon config.
[22:43] <vertago1> I just need to add some checks so that avahi-daemon doesn't send invalid utf8 strings over dbus
[22:43] <nacc> vertago1: understood
[22:43] <vertago1> *try to send
[23:22] <nacc> cpaelzer: i think you need an AA to help usher strongswan through, btw
[23:22] <nacc> cpaelzer: it's in the new queue due to new binaries


[21:38] <Nesto1000> mkanyicy, I get this error: mkdir mydest' and 'tar xzvf filename.tar.gz -C mydest
[21:38] <kpoman> where do I download the main sources.list file ?
[21:38] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: peon
[21:38] <mkanyicy> glassresistor, paste 'id peon' and 'id admin' here
[21:38] <kpoman> for the us.archive.ubuntu.com repo ?
[21:38] <kpoman> please help !
[21:38] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: my asumption is that admin works fine and that the password its look for is the admin password and not mine
[21:38] <wessel> How can I write multiple outputs of Java to a file? I wish to start:  java FIX > FIXrun1.txt and java FIX > FIXrun2.txt      but if I put this in a bash script it only creates FIXrun2.txt
[21:38] <mkanyicy> Nesto1000, can I pm you?
[21:39] <Nesto1000> yea thats fine
[21:40] <lathan> glassresistor: go to System->Preferences->Main Menu, find the Synaptic Package manager, hit properties, and change gksu to gksudo
[21:40] <BalSak1> hi guys. is there any  chance of a decent voice/speech-recognition in ubuntu? I've often have my hands full or engaged elsewhere, but I'd like to dictate mail verbally
[21:40] <Sean93> what would make a torrent freeze whatever program tries to download it?
[21:40] <lathan> glassresistor: if that doesn't work, create a new item that does that gksudo...
[21:41] <familia_> i have problems with LXDe
[21:41] <lathan> Can gnome keyboard shortcuts bind to the right Control key?
[21:41] <aeon-ltd> !details | familia_
[21:41] <Draqul> !lubuntu | familia
[21:42] <justine777w> Hello. can anyone tell me what this means? Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6-jre|icedtea-java7-jre|sun-java6-jdk|icedtea-java7-jdk
[21:42] <guntbert> kpoman: no need to download it, 1) edit the file I mentioned earlier, then 2) sudo apt-get update then 3) sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get install ....
[21:42] <kpoman> guntbert: I did that, got a lot of 404 file not found
[21:42] <k5673>  I'm having an issue with samba/ubuntu_9.04_server. I'm getting random files/folder's names truncated. Like FTHH9O~L, but the contents of the files are allright. Any ideas?
[21:42] <familia_> I HAVE A INTERNET CONNCETIONS WITH lxde, i have ubuntu karic koala
[21:42] <familia_> i
[21:43] <familia_> and the connection wifi doesnt work
[21:43] <lathan> kpoman: that means that your sources.list has a bunch of repositories that no longer exist
[21:43] <kpoman> guntbert: that is why I would love to get an original sources.list for us.ubuntu.com lucid
[21:43] <guntbert> kpoman: can you !pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[21:43] <speedrunnerG55> help
[21:43] <k5673> Familia: have you tried iwlist?
[21:43] <kpoman> guntbert: where do that graphical tool download sources.list from ?
[21:43] <badpenguin86> I have an HP laptop with beats audio, but cannot get the good speakers to work. help?
[21:43] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: uid=1001(peon) gid=1001(peon) groups=1001(peon),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),105(lpadmin),112(netdev),119(admin),124(sambashare)
[21:43] <speedrunnerG55> how do i install java?
[21:43] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: uid=1001(peon) gid=1001(peon) groups=1001(peon),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),105(lpadmin),112(netdev),119(admin),124(sambashare)
[21:44] <k5673> Familia: To see if the card detects the wifi signals
[21:44] <speedrunnerG55> x_x
[21:44] <guntbert> kpoman: it doesn't download it, it generates it
[21:44] <kpoman> guntbert: it is quite complicated, i should copy paste from a pendrive and paste to pastebin
[21:44] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, sudo apt-get install java-common
[21:44] <kpoman> guntbert: ok, if it generates it, how do I generate it from the command line ?
[21:44] <justine777w> can someone please help me? I need to know what this means: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6-jre|icedtea-java7-jre|sun-java6-jdk|icedtea-java7-jdk
[21:45] <guntbert> kpoman: as far as I know, you cannot - but I may be in error
[21:45] <Heston> Hey, ive got a windows parition that was deleted in windows disk management but wasnt formated. I Then tried to retore the parition in linux using fdisk but windows is asking me to format the drive as if the filesystem was destroyed, when I know for a fact it hasnt been touched. Any recommendations?
[21:45] <speedrunnerG55> thank you
[21:45] <kipi> hi guys. is there any  chance of a decent voice/speech-recognition in ubuntu? I've often have my hands full or engaged elsewhere, but I'd like to dictate mail verbally
[21:45] <kpoman> guntbert: quite odd
[21:45] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, If that doesn't work, let me know
[21:45] <speedrunnerG55> i think it did...let mee see if it works
[21:45] <kpoman> guntbert: I am doing a do-release-upgrade -d
[21:46] <familia_> but, in gnome desktop
[21:46] <familia_> wifi
[21:46] <familia_> is
[21:46] <familia_> running
[21:46] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: uid=1000(admin) gid=1000(admin) groups=1000(admin),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),27(sudo),46(plugdev),105(lpadmin),119(admin),124(sambashare)
[21:46] <FloodBot1> familia_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: those are two id <name>
[21:46] <adamb> Anyone know a channel i can get help with apache, #apache only have 8 users it seems
[21:46] <bastidrazor> kpoman: you've changed your sources.list manually to indicae the newer version?
[21:46] <bratkartoffel> hello
[21:46] <bastidrazor> adamb: #httpd
[21:46] <guntbert> kpoman: wait - that will take you to natty (pre alpha)
[21:46] <razz1> I need an application that does the following: arranges paragraphs in alphabetical order only based on the first word. Any recommendations?
[21:47] <bratkartoffel> why do fonts in ubuntu look much nicer than fonts in other distros?
[21:47] <glassresistor> lathan: yeah i can do that, was hoping to fix the general problem so that it doesn't keep popping up
[21:47] <speedrunnerG55> missing plugin
[21:47] <aeon-ltd> familia_: try starting the gnome network manager
[21:47] <kpoman> bastidrazor: no, I want to use the main tools. the problem is X and graphical tools dont work (they make the computer hang, and the computer is 2500km away from me)
[21:47] <speedrunnerG55> it didnt work
[21:47] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, in firefox?
[21:47] <speedrunnerG55> no
[21:47] <kpoman> I suppose upgrading distro will help somehow
[21:47] <speedrunnerG55> chrome
[21:47] <kpoman> but I need to do all from the command line, whenever I launch X or derivatives (tightvncserver i.e.) it hangs the computer
[21:47] <familia_> in gnome wifi works very good
[21:47] <snarkster> if i was doing a dist-upgrade and it locked up how do i restart the upgrade?
[21:47] <speedrunnerG55> should i use firefox?
[21:48] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: from what i can tell neither seems to have significant differences
[21:48] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[21:48] <mkanyicy> glassresistor, i see
[21:48] <kpoman> bastidrazor: the main tool being do-release-upgrade afaik
[21:48] <mkanyicy> glassresistor, I am a bit clueless
[21:49] <kipi> hi guys. is there any  chance of a decent voice/speech-recognition in ubuntu? I've often have my hands full or engaged elsewhere, but I'd like to dictate mail verbally
[21:49] <kipi> ?
[21:49] <kpoman> bastidrazor: and it bases himself on the current distro mirrors / pubs
[21:49] <guntbert> kpoman: that will not help but probably make your system unusable - please be patient
[21:49] <speedrunnerG55> E: Package 'sun-java6-plugin' has no installation candidate
[21:49] <snarkster> repo not setup
[21:49] <kpoman> guntbert: it is already unusable. at least ssh / wget is working. I need to upgrade
[21:49] <razz1> I need an application that does the following: arranges paragraphs in alphabetical order only based on the first word. Any recommendations? can I use macros in open office to achieve this? Any help?
[21:49] <johnbyrne> Maahes_: You totally ROCK! Thank you SO MUCH! I am now logged in from my normal boot. I made the changes you suggested and then had to do a dhclient request and I am ONLINE! Woohoo!
[21:49] <snarkster> need multiverse to get sun-java6-plugin
[21:49] <kpoman> guntbert: this started failing after some update I dont know which one
[21:49] <kpoman> guntbert: I will now upgrade to 10.10
[21:50] <badpenguin86>  speedrunnerG55 Yeah, you need a repo, snarkster is right
[21:50] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: i am too, i also can't figure out what ubuntu with use gksu vs gksudo?
[21:50] <snarkster> if i was doing a dist-upgrade and it locked up how do i restart the upgrade?
[21:50] <kipi> razz1: sort
[21:50] <speedrunnerG55> ?
[21:50] <Maahes_> johnbyrne, :) No problem. I've had the same problem, and I used to have to troubleshoot network connections for people in hotels :)
[21:50] <speedrunnerG55> whats that?
[21:50] <kipi> razz1: & other string-manipulation functions
[21:50] <guntbert> kpoman: if you insist - but don't expect support afterwards - with -d you will *not* upgrade to 10.10 but to 11.04 /pre alpha)
[21:50] <aeon-ltd> familia_: try starting nm-applet
[21:50] <kpoman> but anyway thats not the problem right now ;) the problem is how to do that on command line ! I am trying right now
[21:50] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, Open software center, under the applications menu
[21:50] <kpoman> it tells maverick here
[21:51] <kpoman> guntbert: it downloaded maverig.tar.gz
[21:51] <bullgard4> Tracker Search Tool only finds files which have been modified between 2007 and 2009-08. Why? ~/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg apparently does not list time restrictions
[21:51] <speedrunnerG55> openning
[21:51] <Maahes_> johnbyrne, sorry it took so long, I was trying to minimize the number of times you had to reboot, whilst I troubleshooted ideas.
[21:51] <mkanyicy> glassresistor, I think gksu is wrong for invoking synaptic
[21:51] <speedrunnerG55> open
[21:51] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, hit edit, then software sources
[21:51] <Maahes_> bulldog98, did you turn off tracker indexer?
[21:51] <speedrunnerG55> ok
[21:51] <guntbert> kpoman: well - I never tried that - so I cannot give support in that case, sorry and Good luck :-)
[21:52] <speedrunnerG55> ok?
[21:52] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, Check the fourth box, with (multiverse) at the end
[21:52] <johnbyrne> Maahes_: Well, thanks again. I can't say it enough. This is absolutely 'mission critical' for me. Have a fantastic day. No problem about how long it took. It would have taken me......well.....a loooong time! And now I can sort this if the same thing happens to my Media PC at home when I update! Thanks again!
[21:52] <speedrunnerG55> it has a check
[21:52] <kazoo> How can i change my Max Open Files?
[21:52] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, Hmm... Lemme look
[21:52] <kazoo> it's at 1024 yet i need it at at least 9999
[21:53] <Maahes_> johnbyrne, :) Thank you, I hope the rest of your day goes well
[21:53] <nlsthzn> close
[21:53] <johnbyrne> Thank you for your help Ubuntu forum......Bye for now!
[21:53] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, Is there any there that are not checked?
[21:53] <speedrunnerG55> source code
[21:53] <GodfatherofEir1> Guys, how would I go about booting a partition from a grub2 prompt?
[21:53] <kazoo> !openfiles
[21:54] <snarkster> what is the dpk command to finish nistalling software
[21:54] <grid_> how do i set my bash history to a .txt file?
[21:54] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, This makes no sense, can you open a terminal?
[21:54] <bullgard4> grid_: "set"? 'What do you mean?
[21:54] <speedrunnerG55> ok
[21:54] <aeon-ltd> snarkster: sudo dpkg --configure -a, if your looking for that
[21:54] <speedrunnerG55> open
[21:55] <grid_> bulldog98: i want to write the terminal history to a file history.txt
[21:55] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, Type sudo apt-get update
[21:55] <delinquentme> anyone have any idea if there is a chrome-specific IRC channel ... or if anyone can make suggestions for a channel to go and chat about browser security with the advent of firesheep
[21:55] <etheretic1> Trying to play a matroska video file in gnome-mplayer. The audio plays, the video not, and the time-elapsed is frozen at 00:00. Have tried different video driver settings, with no change. Playing avi files works fine. What could be wrong?
[21:55] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, that will update all your packages
[21:55] <brontoeee> what would be a decent ppa for gimpshop?
[21:56] <speedrunnerG55> ok
[21:56] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, is that done yet?
[21:56] <snarkster> sudo dpjk -configure -a does nothing
[21:56] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: i agree but it works on my system and someone in the Ubuntu dev team either made a decision or a typo
[21:57] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: check you link, which i assume works, and don't tell me it doesn't say that
[21:57] <snarkster> let me try that again.. sudo dpkg --configure -a does nothing
[21:57] <bullgard4> grid_: cat /home/<userame>/.bash_history > history.txt
[21:57] <grid_> bulldog98: thanks
[21:57] <razz1> kipi: thanks for the help, I have never done this before but looks like the data has to be in a tabular format. What I am trying to do is I have several paragraphs in my document that I want to sort alphabetically using the first word. Does this mean I need to convert the whole document in to a excel spreadsheet?
[21:58] <snarkster> excel?
[21:58] <badpenguin86> speedrunnerG55, Is it done?
[21:59] <kazoo> How can i change my Max Open Files?
[21:59] <guntbert> snarkster: you probably want sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[21:59] <brontoeee> etheretic1, how about vlc?
[22:00] <gartral|p> How do I schedule fsck to run on teboot?
[22:00] <brontoeee> etheretic1, what is the video codec used?
[22:00] <gartral|p> Reboot*
[22:00] <bullgard4> Tracker Search Tool only finds files which have been modified between 2007 and 2009-08. Why? ~/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg apparently does not list time restrictions
[22:00] <snarkster> thank you
[22:00] <glassresistor> mkanyicy: just went in and hardwired some things no luck
[22:00] <drManhattan_> fsck runs during startup
[22:00] <kipi>  hi guys. is there any  chance of a decent voice/speech-recognition in ubuntu? I've often have my hands full or engaged elsewhere, but I'd like to dictate mail verbally
[22:01] <glassresistor> anyone on the ubuntu team which knows why gksu is used for launchers?
[22:01] <gartral|p> drManhattan_: its not working
[22:01] <bullgard4> kipi: No.
[22:01] <kipi> bullgard4: thanks
[22:01] <Buttons840> can you scp all text files in a directory?  something like scp <IP_ADDRESS>:/etc/*.txt     ?
[22:01] <badpenguin86> glassresistor, because there is no terminal window. gksudo pops up a dialog in which to type your password
[22:02] <drManhattan_> yes you can scp
[22:02] <Mathuin> Buttons840: scp <IP_ADDRESS>:/etc/*.txt .
[22:02] <Mathuin> You need to tell scp the destination.
[22:02] <gartral|p> drManhattan_: lol, like your name. Just watched the watchmen the other day
[22:02] <Buttons840> Mathuin: would that get a text file in /etc/foo/bar.txt   ?
[22:02] <Mathuin> How can I make my netbook running 10.04.1 LTS connect to the wifi whenever it's turned on?
[22:03] <kipi> razz1: no. if you have a tech document, you can parse the data into segments (seperated by multiple whitespaces), and then sort those segments
[22:03] <Mathuin> Buttons840: no, it would only get /etc/bar.txt
[22:03] <sandking> where can i get libgettext? it isn't in synaptics - only for ruby
[22:03] <Buttons840> Mathuin: that's what i want, a recurive way to gather files (i want to get all jars from a server, because i can't seem to locate a package)
[22:03] <brontoeee> kipi, maybe opera
[22:04] <Mathuin> Buttons840: ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> and run something like "find /etc -name "*.jar" -print | xargs tar cf /tmp/jarfile.tar", then scp the jarfile.tar where you want it?
[22:04] <Buttons840> Mathuin: thans
[22:04] <Mathuin> Buttons840: good luck!
[22:05] <enav> I tested unity on my pc but when i came back to gnome i lose the title bar on maximized windows... what i can do to fix it?
[22:05] <brontoeee> Mathuin, it works like that here
[22:05] <mkanyicy> what is that package that install all the compilers for c and c++ and stuff, is it build-essential?
[22:05] <ghostknife> For some reason when I press ctrl+c with "sudo" it asks for the password again. Meaning, if I cancel it I have to press ctrl+c twice. I've ignored it so far, since it's not serious. Though it's quite irritating. Anyone perhaps know why it would do this?
[22:05] <Buttons840> Mathuin: i'll probably use finds exec command?
[22:05] <commodoor> hi guys
[22:06] <Pagos> So uh, I am currently using chromium.
[22:06] <Pici> mkanyicy: yes
[22:06] <commodoor> what are the benefits of puting home directory in a different partition?
[22:06] <aeon-ltd> commodoor: reinstalls are easier
[22:06] <Mathuin> Buttons840:  I use xargs because the find command will run once per jar whereas the xargs will run once per many arguments.
[22:06] <Pagos> And the scroll wheel changing tabs is really annoying.
[22:06] <area51pilot> commodoor: recovery or data loss prevention is a nice plus
[22:06] <Pagos> How can I turn it off?
[22:06] <Mathuin> commodoor: when your videos/pictures directory fills the partition it doesn't crash the OS
[22:06] <commodoor> does a reinstall overwright the home directory?
[22:06] <zanus> I obviously have two monitors hooked up, http://pastebin.com/9tKjcJyR . Though no matter what I do.. I even did a "sudo Xorg -configure" I can't get the second one on that list to show up.  At one time it showed a bunch of gray/red/blue pixels at login, but that's about it
[22:07] <Mathuin> Pagos: is the mouse on the tabs and not on the window?  That happened to me too.
[22:07] <Pagos> It's on the tabs.
[22:07] <Mathuin> brontoeee:  The 'connect automatically' box wasn't checked.  Oops.
[22:07] <Mathuin> Pagos: move it to the actual window and the problem will go away.
[22:07] <Pagos> I like to center click to close tabs, and it always switches tabs.
[22:07] <enav> missing title bard after try unity what i can do to fix it?????
[22:07] <guntbert> commodoor: if it is not on a separate partition - yes
[22:08] <guntbert> !home | commodoor
[22:08] <etheretic1> brontoeee: pardon delay - xv, gl, x11, ...
[22:08] <Mathuin> Also, does anyone here actively use zoneminder?  Looks like an awesome piece of software, but it's somewhat thinly documented.
[22:09] <commodoor> ubottu, thnx for the link, i know what the home directory is, i never used a different partition
[22:09] <brontoeee> etheretic1, install mediainfo, then do : mediainfo file.mkv and post the results into some online pastebin, provide the link, is it playing with vlc btw?
[22:09] <guntbert> commodoor: look at the link you got from ubottu
[22:09] <razz1> kipi: is this what you are talking about?
[22:09] <commodoor> guntbert, reading it thnx
[22:10] <razz1> kipi: sorry: here is the link: http://api.openoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/util/XSortable.html
[22:10] <mkanyicy> Mathuin, what does it do
[22:11] <etheretic1> brontoeee: E: Unable to locate package mediainfo
[22:11] <mkanyicy> can ffmpeg provide the same audio quality as lame on variable bitrate (VBR) mode?
[22:11] <brontoeee> etheretic1, its not in repos i belive
[22:11] <etheretic1> brontoeee: vlc won't run.
[22:11] <brontoeee> http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
[22:11] <mkanyicy> can ffmpeg provide the same audio quality as lame on variable bitrate (VBR) mode when encoding mp3 audio files?
[22:11] <drManhattan_> why vlc won't run ??
[22:12] <mkanyicy> drManhattan_, because its dead?
[22:12] <MagusOTB> is there a way to make the function keys on my mac keyboard function as function keys and not media buttons? I need F11 a lot more frequently than I need to turn the volume down...
[22:12] <zanus> where is xorg.conf in meerkat
[22:12] <mkanyicy> drManhattan_, why dont you use MPlayer?
[22:12] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, if you use the same lame command line, then i dont see why not, use presets in both cases btw
[22:12] <Quintin> what is the name of the disk free tool so I can launch it from command line?
[22:12] <zealiod> how can i route all traffic on eth1.111, eth.112 and eth.113 to eth0?
[22:12] <zanus> /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist
[22:13] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, no I dont need 'presets' I need to set my own average bitrate
[22:13] <speedrunnerG55> im back
[22:13] <speedrunnerG55> i lost my internet for a minute
[22:14] <commodoor> ubottu, guntbert thnx i think i'm gonna start using a different partition for home
[22:14] <speedrunnerG55> but it didnt work
[22:14] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, then use --preset yourbitrate
[22:14] <drManhattan_> exit
[22:14] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, and besides I am a bit choosy about --vbr-old over --vbr-new even on lame, so ffmpeg will find it hard to get my trust
[22:14] <speedrunnerG55> sudu apt update?
[22:14] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, custom lame command lines are usually very lame, but up to you
[22:14] <commodoor> guntbert, ubottu how much should i give the system is 100Gb enough?
[22:15] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, I have been using lame for years and I am solid with it, my question is ffmpeg, can it match lame or not?
[22:15] <guntbert> commodoor: ubottu is a bot :-)
[22:15] <commodoor> guntbert, lol didn't know haha
[22:15] <Mathuin> mkanyicy: I found a bug in lame when I was encoding extremely low quality audio, ffmpeg worked for me. :-)
[22:15] <speedrunnerG55> eh?!
[22:15] <speedrunnerG55> D:)
[22:16] <commodoor> guntbert, ah see it now
[22:16] <seth_g> i have asus mb M4A89GTD Pro, it has dual pci-e x16 which i am using for two nvidia cards -- one pci-e is geforce 8400 GS, the other is geforce 9400 gt. only one video card ever shows up... always as 1:0.0 from lspci, dmesg doesnt have any errors afaik.. the card in the primary (blue) slot is the one that works no matter which one it is. if i set primary ti internal then internal is the only one that works. i have tried as much as i can fi
[22:16] <seth_g> nd from online and whatnot but this isnt an X thing, no number is assigned to the second card. where do i go from here? id like to find a command similar to lspci that tells about errors..
[22:16] <speedrunnerG55> ;(
[22:16] <speedrunnerG55> );
[22:16] <mkanyicy> Mathuin, brontoeee I am concerned about quality, I need HIGH quality
[22:16] <commodoor> guntbert, but 100Gb is enough ? i have 500Gb so the rest is for home
[22:16] <Mathuin> mkanyicy: zoneminder is a nifty piece of software that collects, stores and analyzes webcam content and sends alerts as appropriate.  It uses apache2 and mysql.
[22:16] <guntbert> commodoor: lets say, use 20 GB for the system, the rest for /home  --- if you choose tu use LVM it will be more flexible
[22:17] <Mathuin> mkanyicy: were it me, I'd install ffmpeg and do some tests.
[22:17] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Is there a sshfs client that works to reconnect, if the connection to the server is lost, without me having to issue the reconnect command?
[22:17] <evilgeenius> How can i disable compiz in ubuntu?
[22:17] <bynw> i'm having some difficulties with my wireless connection on my laptop. sometimes the network connection applet will just vanish from the panel with or without connecting. and many times my wireless just wont connect to any wireless access point. even though it is fully authorized to do so or at hot spots where it should just detect it and jump on.
[22:17] <Mathuin> In my particular case, I was trying to compress Morse code.  I got amazing results -- like 167x -- which was really keen.
[22:17] <commodoor> guntbert, i'm gonna use home encrypted because it's my laptop so if it's get stolen i know i will be safe
[22:17] <speedrunnerG55> hellpppp
[22:17] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, you just said that you need certain bitrate
[22:18] <speedrunnerG55> D:
[22:18] <ruper_> hi world !
[22:18] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, so what is it, high quality or bitrate?
[22:18] <Mathuin> commodoor: keep in mind that if you do any sort of remote backups of your laptop that you will have to be logged in in order for that partition tobe backed up.
[22:18] <guntbert> commodoor: 100GB for the system is probably too much, especially on a laptop
[22:18] <speedrunnerG55> D':
[22:18] <mkanyicy> Mathuin, I did with constant bitrate (CBR) @ 320kbps and they were the same
[22:18] <Mathuin> mkanyicy: Did you try VBR?  I think that's what you said was your target question.
[22:18] <speedrunnerG55> D;
[22:19] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, Mathuin no I didn't
[22:19] <speedrunnerG55> i stillcantget java
[22:19] <speedrunnerG55> help
[22:19] <mkanyicy> Mathuin, because I think its a bit tricky
[22:19] <speedrunnerG55> i still cant get java
[22:19] <commodoor> Mathuin, thnx, i'm not doing remote backup just local and U1
[22:19] <guntbert> commodoor: in that case take a look at http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7568/1.html about encrypted home dir
[22:19] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, High quality
[22:19] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, well in any case i would actually avoid using ffmpeg, whats wrong with using lame directly?
[22:19] <commodoor> guntbert, thnx gonna read it
[22:20] <guntbert> commodoor: and make certain to write down that pass phrase and keep it in a secure/safe place
[22:21] <guntbert> no way to your data without it
[22:21] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, lame is slower than ffmpeg about 4 to 6 seconds
[22:22] <etheretic1> brontoeee: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libmediainfo0 (>= 0.7.36)
[22:22] <trollboy> I'm currently experiencing high load averages (60-120) and can't figure out why... I'm looking at the server and ordering by cpu and mem is 0% cpu and .4% mem  any way to see what is going on?
[22:22] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, now if you are encoding, say 20 thousand mp3 files, it will be slower 6 times that which can be lots if minutes
[22:23] <commodoor> guntbert, thnx, im gonna reinstall ubuntu
[22:23] <commodoor> guntbert, with the passphrase i can mount the encrypted home, right?
[22:24] <guntbert> commodoor: have fun -- and *don't ever loose that passphrase*
[22:24] <commodoor> guntbert, thnx for the help
[22:24] <guntbert> commodoor: you're welcome :-)
[22:25] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, speed is the reverse of the quality, so i'am not sure what you want
[22:25] <blakkheim> "loose"?
[22:25] <ayush> is it not possible to open two windows of an application (say firefox) in the unity interface?
[22:25] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, yes but WITH EVERYTHING ELSE remaining constant
[22:25] <brontoeee> etheretic1, i think there are 2 debs that you need to install in correct order
[22:26] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, ffmpeg and lame may be using different algorithms
[22:26] <martin_> hey, can someone help me with setting default file permissions in a directory?
[22:26] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, by the way --vbr-new and --vbr-old of lame use two different algorithms
[22:26] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, files should be bit identical then, encode two and do an md5 on both, if it matches then use ffmpeg
[22:27] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, let me find you a link with recommended presets....
[22:27] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, I think you can encode the same file twice with lame alone and calculate MD5 checksum it would be different, I bet
[22:27] <starn> hello.
[22:27] <etheretic1> brontoeee: oh right, got it.
[22:28] <seth_g> referring to my earlier question, only one video card is recognized at a time whether I use the installed 10.04 32 bit or a maverick 64 live usb
[22:28] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, no I do not need the presets, I have wrote an mp3 converter script myself, so I need this to check if ever I should improve its speed or not
[22:28] <martin_> hello??
[22:28] <guntbert> blakkheim: referring to me?
[22:28] <starn> Can anyone suggest a browser faster than Firefox and Chrome. i'm using google voice for text messaging and would prefer something that uses lil less than 60-150mb memory..
[22:29] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, no, two encodes should be identical
[22:29] <mkanyicy> starn, w3m?
[22:29] <seth_g> lspci lists the 'numbers' for each hardware device. if a 'number' (like 1:0.0) is for some reason failing, where is that error logged?
[22:29] <vdubhack> how does one go about removing the realtek driver that gets installed by default. I dont want to blacklist but full remove it properly so I can try other version with patches since in 64 bit the driver causes a memory leak
[22:29] <starn> mkanyicy w3m?? whats that?
[22:30] <Draqul> starn: Chromium is about as fast as it gets, imo.
[22:30] <tensorpudding> starn: it's a text-mode web browser
[22:30] <mkanyicy> terminal based web browser
[22:30] <Draqul> starn: Graphical, I mean.
[22:30] <martin_> starn: i've found chrome pretty fast, i heard saphari is pretty quick too. honestly though, i dont have much experience with saphari
[22:30] <starn> draqul so far i agree but it still uses 100+ memory.
[22:30] <nibbier> clicking on the battery/charger applet and preferences lets me define how to behave on AC power, but not on battery anymore. how to acces these settings?
[22:30] <martin_> safari*
[22:30] <mkanyicy> starn, Im with Draqul as well on the GUI, Chromium
[22:30] <bynw> i'm having some difficulties with my wireless connection on my laptop. sometimes the network connection applet will just vanish from the panel with or without connecting. and many times my wireless just wont connect to any wireless access point. even though it is fully authorized to do so or at hot spots where it should just detect it and jump on.
[22:31] <Draqul> starn: I know. = / If you're looking for something terminal based, then links is pretty swift. Linx is another good option
[22:31] <martin_> can anybody help me with my permissions problem?
[22:31] <starn> i'll check out w3m probably gonna take hours to figure out how to use it
[22:31] <decanius> Hey
[22:32] <starn> thanks guys. maybe they will work with google voice so i may send text messages with out hogging half my systems memory [not really half but feels like it sometimes when a game like wow can use less]
[22:32] <martin_> I need to set a directory's default permissions for new files to be 775, but it wont let me! :(
[22:32] <Draqul> starn: I do not think links, or linx, will work with Google Voice.
[22:32] <starn> worth a shot.
[22:32] <Draqul> martin_: sudo chmod 775 <dir>
[22:33] <martin_> Draqul, it needs to be for new files, not existing ones
[22:33] <slidinghorn> starn,  Draqul you can use the mobile version of the site google.com/voice/m/
[22:33] <martin_> it's so that if someone creates a file, it will already have the permissions 775
[22:33] <Draqul> martin_: my bad
[22:33] <starn> hmm did not think to use mobile version even though i use it for my DSi all the time! great idea!
[22:33] <sirscott> /wc/wc
[22:33] <seth_g> maybe my question needs to be broken up into the 100 questions i asked myself to get to that conclusion...
[22:34] <slidinghorn> starn, thanks :)  I have one every once in a great while ;-)
[22:34] <starn> i still wanna try this text base broswer stuff ^.^ sounds fun to play with,,
[22:34] <seth_g> so when i run lspci, what are the numbers called (like 1:0.0). is that the irq??
[22:35] <seth_g> BusID?
[22:35] <grid_> i use a samba server, where can you change the default profile path to save roaming profiles from a windowsxp client, the default should be /home/<username>/profile, i already search a day for this ;)
[22:36] <guntbert> seth_g: did you already read man lspci ? (I didn't recently)
[22:36] <etheretic1> brontoeee: the progress bar is just running back and forth installing libmediainfo.
[22:36] <decanius> I just installed some ati-drivers for my notebook after I installed a fresh version of lubuntu, then I reinstalled my  fglrx and now it just locks at my bootscreen and I can't change the runlevel or anything.. Does anyone have any good tips t how to solve this?
[22:37] <starn> ok where and or how do i find or use any  of these text based browsers such as w3m swift or linx? w/e they was..
[22:37] <brontoeee> etheretic1, lucid or? (works fine here with lucid)
[22:37] <guntbert> !info w3m | starn
[22:37] <etheretic1> brontoeee: meercat 10.10
[22:37] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, ok I have made few test cases, the MD5 sum stays the same for identical settings but changes if you change the vbr algorithm, since lame has at least 2 algorithms with its fastest being slower than ffmpeg, i think ffmpeg is using something else
[22:38] <guntbert> starn: w3m is already installed, you invoke it with w3m <url>
[22:38] <tchad_> join #qt-labs
[22:38] <seth_g> guntbert, i have. ive tried the Q options and -vv, etc but still only one card.
[22:38] <guntbert> starn: and you quit it later with Q
[22:38] <mkanyicy> brontoeee, but anyway its fine, I will do my ground work on google and experiment a bit as time goes on, thanks for the help, now  I will take the md5sum into account!
[22:39] <martin_> can i write a script or something so that new files in a directory have a certain permission set?
[22:39] <martin_> (like 775)
[22:39] <VCoolio> starn: here are some more to check; most are in the repos http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lightweight_Applications#Browsers
[22:39] <guntbert> seth_g: I must admit that I cannot decode them myself
[22:39] <MatBoy> man, 10.10 is a pain with a intel 5100 agn card
[22:39] <seth_g> assuming ubuntu can 'see' both cards, is there an error log when an irq cannot be assigned?
[22:40] <seth_g> irq meaning BusID i guess
[22:40] <rammyIRC> trying to find a way to connect to Remote Web Workplace on a Windows SBS 2003 server. RWW only works in IE.
[22:40] <seth_g> dmesg has no errors about anything vga related
[22:40] <decanius> I just installed some ati-drivers for my notebook after I installed a fresh version of lubuntu, then I reinstalled my  fglrx and now it just locks at my bootscreen and I can't change the runlevel or anything.. Does anyone have any good tips t how to solve this?
[22:40] <kpoman> I am getting a lot of forbidden on a update ! please someone help !!!! http://pastebin.com/78BA3drU
[22:41] <kpoman> or how do I get rid of it ?
[22:41] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, yes actually, you need to extract only the audio part and do md5 on that (when using different encoders)
[22:41] <starn> thanks guys this is amazing!! i know for sure mobile site of google voice works on this w3m. this is amazing!
[22:41] <brontoeee> mkanyicy, my mistake here
[22:41] <MatBoy> what is the issue with a intel 5100 agn card ? It sees networks but cannot connect right because of the WPA key or whatever
[22:42] <maco> MatBoy: wpa key shouldnt be related to hardware. thats the password you need to connect to that network. the owner has setup a password to encrypt the traffic
[22:42] <seth_g> is it possible that a dual pci-e nvidia is not available without crossfire?
[22:43] <Gnea> kpoman: firewall?
[22:43] <MatBoy> maco: yes, but network-manager does not see networks with the card and wicd has password problems
[22:43] <soreau> What is starting gnome-screensaver? I do not see it in alacarte (sys>prefs>startup applications). What else starts user programs?
[22:44] <etheretic1> brontoeee: it's hanging on dpkg.
[22:45] <trism> soreau: /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-screensaver.desktop
[22:45] <blocky> is it possible to make my gnome panel task switcher have two rows of tasks?
[22:45] <soreau> trism: Why.
[22:45] <rammyIRC> how to use  Remote Web Workplace from ubuntu?
[22:45] <rammyIRC> any pointers??
[22:46] <soreau> Sorry, s/alacarte/gnome-session-properties
[22:46] <soreau> Why start starting things in /etc/xdg/autostart/ instead of making them easily configurable by gnome-session-properties as it has been in the past?
[22:46] <trism> soreau: http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html, it also looks in ~/.config/autostart (that's where startup applications saves them)
[22:46] <pionar> Good afternoon everyone!
[22:47] <mkanyicy> hi pionar
[22:47] <trism> soreau: and you can copy anything to ~/.config/autostart and it will override the .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart
[22:47] <marciosr10> test
[22:47] <rammyIRC> anybody??
[22:48] <soreau> trism: The spec says ubuntu should start making things less easily configurable by removing it from gnome-session-properties?
[22:48] <rammyIRC> do anybody knew the answer please let me know on Remote Web Workplace.
[22:48] <Pici> !patience | rammyIRC
[22:48] <rammyIRC> oh ok
[22:48] <rammyIRC> sorry
[22:48] <seth_g> so ubuntu cant handle two video cards?
[22:49] <speedrunnerG55> i still cant get java
[22:49] <trism> soreau: they are not removed, they are default, system-wide settings, and as I said you can copy the .desktop file you want to override to ~/.config/autostart and gnome-session-properties will let you edit it
[22:49] <wad> speedrunnerG55, you can download it directly from java.com, if you like.
 soreau: and you can copy anything to ~/.config/autostart and it will override the .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart <-- this doesn't make two bits of sense to me. What would make sense is having xscreensaver installed would automagically replace gnome-screensaver for startup and configuration
[22:50] <trism> soreau: I didn't write the system, so I don't know why you're telling me
[22:50] <soreau> Instead I not only get two entries for 'Screensaver' in the menu, but I don't see a way to change it via GUI
[22:50] <speedrunnerG55> wich one?
[22:50] <soreau> trism: You responded, so you get latched.
[22:51] <speedrunnerG55> which donload?
[22:51] <geitenneuker> good morning
[22:51] <seth_g> alright then, since it seems ubuntu cant use more than one video card at a time, is there a video card available with 4 heads?
[22:52] <zanus> lspci shows I have 2 displays, aticonfig shows I have 2 displays, yet Catalyst Control Center only shows 1 of my two ATI cards.
[22:52] <soreau> zanus: Who cares?
[22:52] <soreau> Canonical really needs to get their act together instead of piling on more crap no one wants or needs
[22:52] <zanus> question being, why can I not detect my second display when it's obviously showing up
[22:53] <seth_g> soreau, umm zanus cares. i kind of care too
[22:53] <speedrunnerG55> ???
[22:53] <seth_g> zanus, try sudo X -configure - is there only one entry for video cards in lspci?
[22:54] <camer0n_> hi guys, just wondering if it is possible to do a complete copy of an OS, including partitions, etc, installed on a USB stick, to a iso file?
[22:54] <zanus> I tried -configure.. and no.. there are two entries for VGA in lspci
[22:54] <camer0n_> i figure dd or something might work?
[22:54] <kjkjava> I'm having trouble getting my JDBC driver to work in Ubuntu.  I used -cp to add the correct jar(s) to the classpath.  I'm just using javac and java... no IDE.  Ideas?
[22:54] <seth_g> zanus, you'll need to be sure the second display uses the second device
[22:55] <zanus> Here's my lspci http://pastebin.com/5eJA1wPm and here's the ATI config http://pastebin.com/DYXuSQtP
[22:56] <zanus> seth_g, how do I make sure of that?
[22:56] <seth_g> zanus, its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:56] <geitenneuker> good morning
[22:56] <seth_g> zanus pstebin your xorg
[22:56] <zanus> seth_g, unfortunately, in meerkat.. that file doesn't exist
[22:57] <tgies> How would I get gnome-keyring to store my ssh private key passphrase forever? Right now it prompts to unlock the key once per session.
[22:57] <zanus> or at least that's what I've experienced
[22:57] <Draqul> zanus: xorg.conf has become optional
[22:58] <wad> tgies, what do you mean, "once per session"?
[22:58] <wad> tgies, you mean after a reboot?
[22:58] <zanus> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf returns an error.. Dragul, but even after I did a Xorg -configure... I still can't find it
[22:58] <geitenneuker> i got a problem
[22:58] <geitenneuker> any dutch person here?
[22:58] <Draqul> !ask | geitenneuker
[22:58] <zanus> no wait..
[22:58] <Draqul> geitenneuker: Deutsch?
 tgies, what do you mean, "once per session"?
 tgies, you mean after a reboot?
[22:58] <tgies> actually, if i log out and log back in
[22:58] <geitenneuker> dutch! no german
[22:58] <zanus> ok xorg.conf miraculously appeared!!
[22:59] <zanus> http://pastebin.com/gaN9R3xX
[22:59] <tgies> but obviously a reboot has the same effect
[22:59] <Draqul> !du | geitenneuker
[22:59] <tgies> actually maybe it IS just after a reboot
[22:59] <tgies> I'm not 100% sure
[22:59] <tgies> i should check
[22:59] <Draqul> !dutch | geitenneuker
[22:59] <wad> tgies: It's normal to enter your key after a reboot. I just use ssh-add.
[23:00] <tgies> wad: yes, ssh-add is automatically being fired by gnome-keyring
[23:00] <wad> Ah, makes sense.
[23:00] <tgies> and i'm being prompted by ssh-askpass to unlock it the first time i use it per session
[23:00] <tgies> but I actually would like to store some of the passphrases in the keyring so i *never* have to type them
[23:01] <zanus> ok.. so I have xorg.conf access now.. Now I just have to figure out how to add my second card in there..
[23:01] <seth_g> zanus, im pretty sure you need to add the second device there
[23:01] <seth_g> yeah..
[23:01] <zanus> is there a good tutorial out there anywhere
[23:01] <wad> tgies, same here. If you don't want to be prompted for the password, use a key that's not passphrase protected, I suppose.
[23:01] <tgies> hmm
[23:01] <seth_g> zanus, are those pci-e? this is related to my issue
[23:01] <tgies> it used to work in 8.x
[23:01] <tgies> weird
[23:01] <zanus> the one that's not in there is pci-e yes
[23:01] <seth_g> zanus, i see that card for sale as pci-e
[23:02] <seth_g> zanus, only one is? other is straight pci?
[23:02] <tiox> Quickie: What do I wanna get if I want to find the URL of a radio station using a flash widget which does not provide the URL I can use in other media players?
[23:02] <wad> tgies, that is strange. I haven't noticed anything different.
[23:02] <zanus> the other is onboard
[23:02] <wad> tiox, netstat?
[23:02] <tiox> Netstat. I'll take a look at it.
[23:02] <tiox> For 10.10 right?
[23:02] <seth_g> wow... i can never get onboard to show up if there is another card in...
[23:03] <etheretic1> brontoeee: can't cut/paste from gui version, installing cli.
[23:03] <seth_g> zanus, your mb only has one pci-e slot?
[23:03] <zanus> umm.. I believe so
[23:03] <zanus> I'd have to re check
[23:04] <seth_g> zanus, the point you are at would be considered success for me
[23:04] <tgies> wad: There used to be an "automatically unlock" checkbox in the askpass dialog
[23:04] <tgies> which would cause it to save the passphrase to the keyring and never ask for it again
[23:04] <zanus> :P
[23:04] <tgies> That's gone now
[23:04] <wad> tgies: Ah!
[23:05] <zanus> so how do I find the BusID of my other card... that seems to be the only thing different regarding a simple copy/paste solution
[23:05] <seth_g> zanus its in lspci
[23:05] <seth_g> one is 1:05.0 other is 2:00.0
[23:06] <seth_g> i suspect 2 is the addon
[23:06] <zanus> yeah
[23:06] <qorep> is there some checkinstall alternative that can handle files with spaces in them?
[23:06] <zanus> it's weird that it calls the onboard PCI
[23:07] <zanus> is there a different syntax for PCI-e in xorg.conf?
[23:07] <zanus> or can I just put "PCI:2:0:0"
[23:08] <seth_g> zanus same as the other device part of xorg.conf
[23:08] <zanus> alright thx seth_g
[23:09] <camer0n_> hi, can some one help me? I am trying to clone a drive, but having trouble with dd... is there a better way?
[23:09] <altin> hi can someone help me ?
[23:10] <altin> i have camera problems truying to fifure out for 2h :/
[23:10] <delinquentme> damn! ubuntu is kind of plagued when it comes to video codecs ... has anyone else noticed this? first i cant watch DVDs .. now my .wmv playback is messed up ... and then all the flash playback stuff in browser ... Eh... are there plans to fix this??
[23:10] <altin> figur*
[23:10] <Cyber_Akuma> Ummm, thats because Ubuntu isn't windows, its not really something broken to "fix"
[23:10] <Cyber_Akuma> You can download "dirty" codecs to play those formats though
[23:11] <gravitus> I don't have that problem with ubuntu. I sprinkle Bill Gates dandruff into the disk drive
[23:11] <delinquentme> Cyber_Akuma, how do i do this
[23:11] <Quintin> delinquentme: apt-get install vlc mplayer ... ?
[23:12] <delinquentme> Quintin, i have VLC installed.. however its not playing .wmv files
[23:12] <Cyber_Akuma> thats odd
[23:12] <delinquentme> Cyber_Akuma, i DID try and install DVD playback ( additional video wonkyness)
[23:13] <Quintin> delinquentme: try different wmvs?
[23:13] <Cyber_Akuma> the default media player would have asked you to install the codec pack when you tried to play an unsupported file
[23:13]  * twinkie_addict is baffled aptitude wasnt installed by default in 10.10 , i had to install my self . i thought it was what we were suposed to use in cli to install stuff
[23:14] <delinquentme> the sound works ... on all the vids ... but not the video
[23:14] <blakkheim> twinkie_addict: ubuntu is more of a distro for noobs now, i think they don't care as much about the advanced users - but you can install it of course
[23:14] <Cyber_Akuma> BTw, is it possible to inswtall Ubuntu and tell it to install grub to it's own parttion rather than to the MBR?
[23:14] <Quintin> delinquentme: have you tried many different video files?
[23:14] <delinquentme> Quintin, i just tried 4 .. all the same results
[23:15] <twinkie_addict> yeh i installed it :)
[23:15] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, I have a script which I would like to start on boot with root rights, because the script needs to be able to shutdown the laptop. Furthermore, using shutdown now does not shutdown the laptop, but instead opens some sort of recovery menu.
[23:15] <twinkie_addict> i got my ubuntu 10.10 cd in the mail did a fresh install and tought it how to boot in to cli :)
[23:16] <Buttons840> can anyone suggest a javascript interpreter for ubuntu (a general interpreter, not related to the web)
[23:16] <Cyber_Akuma> Anyone?
[23:17] <LjL> !info spidermonkey-bin | Buttons840
[23:17] <tgies> so anyone know where that "automatically unlock" checkbox went?
[23:17] <LjL> Buttons840: uhm. it exists on Hardy *shrug*
[23:17] <mentoc> I removed gdm and now aplay says it cannot find card '0'.. Any ideas?
[23:17] <drunken> hi everyone. i'm having serious issues with sound since i upgraded kernels on ubuntu 9.10
[23:17] <twinkie_addict> sometimes i need the gui apps in gnome but most of the time i dont so run cli only with helps alot as i only 370 megs of ram
[23:18] <drunken> dmesg throws up tons of these: hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd=0xc35000
[23:18] <zanus> well seth_g, adding another device section didn't do anything.  I'm guessing I have restart gdm?
[23:18] <drunken> kern.log throws up tons of these:  hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff
[23:18]  * twinkie_addict plans on buying new box next month
[23:18] <drunken> and the startup sounds will play. but when i login. sound goes away
[23:18] <seth_g> well yeah you have to restartx
[23:18] <seth_g> logout and login
[23:19] <zanus> alright
[23:19] <grid_> if i do mv /home/username /media/data/users/username, and now i do in /home sudo ln -s /media/data/users/username test, how could i get the same permissions to /home/username? because /home/username will not get data from some programs anymore since used ln
[23:19] <mentoc> Is there a way to get a list of packages that 'apt-get autoremove ' has removed?
[23:20] <drunken> anyone have any ideas?
[23:20] <Bliepo> grid_, if i am correct, you cannot make a symoblic link to a driectory
[23:20] <aeon-ltd> drunken: check alsamixer
[23:21] <drunken> aeon-ltd: the sound is not muted via alsa mixer
[23:21] <Pici> Bliepo: sure you can.  You can't make a hardlink to a directory.
[23:21] <grid_> Bliepo: you can
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> drunken: whats your source of sound to test?
[23:21] <drunken> and with the log file viewer open. everytime i attempt to play a sound a hundred or so of those errors come up
[23:21] <Bliepo> Pici, ah, I always mix the two up :')
[23:21] <drunken> aeon-ltd: As in music? system sounds?
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> drunken: can you paste bin the errors?
[23:21] <drunken> yea. i'll put them on pastebin
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> drunken: yeah test multiple sources
[23:22] <grid_> Pici: perhaps you can help me with the question above?
[23:23] <Pici> grid_: change the permissions on /home/username to be owned by username:username
[23:23] <plitter> hello, i am trying to get a mic on asus 1005px to work, anyone have an idea?
[23:23] <grid_> Pici: it would be actually sudo ln -s /media/data/users/username username, i made a typo
[23:23] <drunken> lovely. pastebin is broke
[23:23] <Pici> grid_: I figured
[23:23] <zanus> ugh seth_g, what am I doing wrong http://pastebin.com/aV3DDVkw
[23:23] <mkanyicy> bye everyone
[23:24] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there a way to install ubuntu with grub/the bootloader completely installed on the partition I installed Ubuntu on and not installed on the MBR at all so I can chainload it?
[23:24] <grid_> Pici: so i have to do before i move the use ls -lah to see the permissions, and then i need to set them the same
[23:24] <Sean93> why does this torrent freeze and program i use to download it?? and how do i fix it?
[23:24] <Pici> grid_: You shouldn't need to check it, as it should be owned by user 'username' and group 'username'
[23:25] <zanus> it still shows only only screen in Catalyst Control Panel
[23:25] <zanus> and only one card
[23:25] <zanus> while lspci and aticonfig -lsa say different
[23:25] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, I have a script which I would like to start on boot with root rights, because the script needs to be able to shutdown the laptop. Furthermore, using shutdown now does not shutdown the laptop, but instead opens some sort of recovery menu.
[23:26] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm wondering what options to use with CP in order to copy all files in a directory, recursively, to another directory -- replacing any files that have the same name.  Any ideas?
[23:26] <etheretic1> brontoeee: still there? mediainfo output is at http://pastebin.com/cQQCeJZF
[23:26] <TheSelby> hi
[23:26] <TheSelby> anyone alive here ?
[23:27] <Pici> Yes.
[23:27] <TheSelby> i am interested in some help, if possible, related with nvidia and tv-out on ubuntu
[23:27] <drunken> aeon-ltd: http://mysql.paste-bin.com/view/fb2f1f7a
[23:28] <TheSelby> can you help me in this Pici ?
[23:28] <drunken> aeon-ltd: and http://mysql.paste-bin.com/view/65d26860
[23:28] <Dream_th> hi
[23:28] <Dream_th> i'm having some difficulties with iptables on ubuntu
[23:29] <Dream_th> i'm trying to excecute these commands but the masquerade won't work
[23:29] <Dream_th>  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 12000 -j DNAT --to-destination ipaddress:12000
[23:29] <ehcah> Does anyone know how to remove the notification applet that remains in the top left hand corner of my screen after the top panel has been deleted? Icons are things like xChat, Battery/Power, Connections, Open Office etc..
[23:29] <Dream_th>  iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE
[23:29] <Dream_th> when excecuting the 2nd commmand i get: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
[23:29] <Pici> TheSelby: I'm not much help with nvidia issues, sorry.
[23:30] <TheSelby> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s xx.xx.xx.xx/xx -o ethx -j MASQUERADE
[23:30] <Dream_th> which xx.xx.xx.xx/xx should be the local address right?
[23:30] <TheSelby> Pici: thanks ... you know someone that can help me from here ?
[23:30] <TheSelby> yea
[23:30] <zealiod> i am receicing this error 'SIOCADDRT: No such process' when i do this command
[23:30] <zealiod> sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1.1
[23:30] <Mathuin> SeanInSeattle: I would use tar instead.  "cd sourcedir && tar cf - . | (cd destdir && tar xvf -)"
[23:30] <anon33_> I'm in quite a pickle and could really use some help.
[23:31] <zealiod> It generally means the gateway is not reachable with your current routes
[23:31] <zealiod> Im not sure how to fix - any ideas?
[23:31] <seth_g> zanus, im sure the autoconfigure will work at this point
[23:32] <anon33_> I've set Ubuntu to autologin. Earlier today I set up awesome wm and now when I boot into ubuntu, I get a black screen that wont display anything.
[23:32] <seth_g> zanus, i thought the catalyst drivers were available for ubuntu
[23:32] <drunken> any clues aeon-ltd ?
[23:32] <grid_> Pici: it has the same permissions, but programs don't respond to the same folder anymore, like i use for this folder a location for a roaming profile from winxp client that is connection to my samba pdc
[23:32] <zanus> I have the catalyst drivers already
[23:32] <anon33_> The best I can do is close my laptop, switch user, and try switching the desktop environment but that doesn't solve anything.
[23:32] <Sean93> why does this torrent freeze and program i use to download it?? and how do i fix it?
[23:32] <anon33_> Any help would be really appreciated.
[23:32] <zanus> it's just that in the Control Center, under Display Devices..
[23:33] <zanus> only one shows us
[23:33] <grid_> Pici: would you know how this could be, i'm already a day busy with this problem
[23:33] <seth_g> was catalyst installed?
[23:33] <zanus> I'm not sure what you're asking...  was is it installed when before I decided to connect another monitor? No
[23:35] <LiamBRT2> Free Music Downloads, No Shit, no Software, No Registration, Instant Downloads, No Virus' - muQuick -  http://www.muquick.com
[23:36] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, I have a script which I would like to start on boot with root rights, because the script needs to be able to shutdown the laptop. Furthermore, using shutdown now does not shutdown the laptop, but instead opens some sort of recovery menu.
[23:36] <seth_g> zanus, you should install ati's proprietary drivers\
[23:36] <zanus> I have
[23:36] <seth_g> and a full reboot?
[23:36] <zanus> yes
[23:36] <zanus> I'm about to try another reboot
[23:36] <zanus> just to see what happens
[23:37] <TheSelby> any xorg.conf expert here ?
[23:37] <newuber> I seem to have a slow boot on my laptop.. Using Ubuntu 10.10 and on boot I have a blank screen for 15-25 sec before anything happens.. I have dual boot for windows but havent installed windozzze yet.. any help?
[23:37] <zanus> bbl
[23:37] <seth_g> ok there's gotta be a catalyst application so you can choose orientation of screen and location
[23:37] <zanus> yeah.. I have the catalyst application
[23:37] <zanus> I can do all that stuff
[23:37] <seth_g> unfortunate im using nvidia so i cant try it
[23:37] <zanus> but only with one screen..
[23:37] <zanus> and it only detects one video card
[23:38] <anon33_> Grr...could really use some help here.
[23:39] <goltoof> zanus,  if you asked me, return the ati card and get nVidia while you still can.  nVidia has way more linux support
[23:39] <sir_tyrion> Hey, is the only difference between ubuntu and xubuntu the desktop environment?
[23:39] <sir_tyrion> if I install both sessions, is it like having both installed on my comp?
[23:40] <anon33_> Accidentally specified 'User Defined Session' as the environment and I have auto login setup so I can't change it.
[23:40] <etheretic1> Trying to play a matroska video file in gnome-mplayer and vlc. The audio plays, the video not, and the time-elapsed is frozen at 00:00. Have tried different video codec settings, with no change. Playing avi files works fine. What could be wrong? mediainfo output at http://pastebin.com/cQQCeJZF
[23:40] <Dream_th> TheSelby: i'm still receiving error while excecuting this: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s xx.xx.xx.xx/24 -o venet0 -j MASQUERADE
[23:40] <anon33_> Can anyone please help me out?
[23:40] <Benkinooby> !off-topic
[23:41] <newuber> anon33 normally just ask the question and if someone knows the answer. they usually are good about helping
[23:41] <TheSelby> @Dream_th: you are trying to masquerade all from one board to another, right ?
[23:41] <goltoof> anon33_, learn how to do what you need with command line :)
[23:42] <Dream_th> TheSelby: i'm trying to redirect all incoming connection to a specific ip address and port
[23:42] <anon33_> goltoof: I can't even boot into the command line. Seriously need some assistance...
[23:42] <RyanP>  Anyone want to make 5 dollars per post, on my technology blog?
[23:43] <TheSelby> @Dream_th: do something like this:
[23:43] <TheSelby> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p TCP -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[23:43] <anon33_> How do I boot into the command line? What would I.change to.alter the desktop environment?
[23:43] <RyanP>  Anyone want to make 5 dollars per post, on my technology blog?
[23:43] <RyanP>  Anyone want to make 5 dollars per post, on my technology blog?
[23:43] <TheSelby> that's how i redirect http traffic to squid
[23:43] <goltoof> anon33_,  what do you see now?
[23:43] <anon33_> Is it possible to boot into the login screen if autologin is set?
[23:43] <Dream_th> TheSelby: let me try
[23:44] <anon33_> goltoof: its a black screen asking me for my password. Im able to hibernate my laptop and switch users, but im the only defined user
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> drunken: coorslight kernel? are you serious?
[23:44] <goltoof> anon33_,  and when you put in your password?
[23:44] <ka1ser> lol
[23:45] <newuber> why is my bootup so slow 10.10
[23:45] <anon33_> goltoof; it stays black.
[23:45] <drunken> aeon-ltd: its my laptops name
[23:45] <Therstrium> where is the smbpasswd file located?
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> drunken: lol any way back on topic
[23:45] <drunken> :)
[23:45] <anon33_> goltoof: all I need to do is change the session environment before autologin but im unable to do that
[23:46] <drunken> current kernel version is 2.6.31-14. everything was peachy until i upgraded to -22.
[23:46] <goltoof> anon33_, you might try reinstalling gnome   sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[23:46] <drunken> the issues began happening so i uninstalled the -22 version via synaptic and reverted back to the -14
[23:46] <drunken> and the issues never left ^_^
[23:46] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm trying to use rapidsvn, and I think I've messed up the permissions somehow.  On startup and shutdown it gives me an error saying that it can't write to the user configuration file.  Does anyone here know what that's all about?
[23:46] <anon33_> goltoof: how can I access the command line before autologin?
[23:47] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, I have a script which I would like to start on boot with root rights, because the script needs to be able to shutdown the laptop. Furthermore, using shutdown now does not shutdown the laptop, but instead opens some sort of recovery menu.
[23:47] <aeon-ltd> drunken: i found a solution, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto#Playing%20with%20probe_mask
[23:47] <drunken> yea. tried that.
[23:47] <drunken> i've googled my brains on  this
[23:47] <geitenneuker> geiten
[23:48] <aeon-ltd> drunken: no luck with that solution?
[23:48] <Bliepo> geitenneuker, kies een andere naam wil je?
[23:48] <drunken> nope. :(
[23:49] <geitenneuker> eek?
[23:49] <Bliepo> !rules
[23:49] <goltoof> anon33_, so it just keeps asking for a pw no matter how many times you put it in?
[23:50] <neitengeuker> ok
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> drunken: is this a laptop?
[23:50] <Bliepo> neitengeuker, good :)
[23:50] <drunken> aeon-ltd: yes. acer aspire one ao751h
[23:51] <anon33_> goltoof: no, only once
[23:51] <BbluEi> Anyone here, extremely familiar with Grub2?
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> drunken: you may require a specific module to load at boot, sorry but i have to go now, sorry i could find the solution and good luck :)
[23:51] <plitter> hello have someone had a problem
[23:51] <drunken> no worries. thanks for the help m8
[23:52] <plitter> oops
[23:52] <etheretic1> Take 3: Trying to play a matroska video file in gnome-mplayer and vlc. The audio plays, the video not, and the time-elapsed is frozen at 00:00. Have tried different video codec settings, with no change. Playing avi files works fine. What could be wrong? mediainfo output at http://pastebin.com/cQQCeJZF
[23:53] <goltoof> anon33_, try booting into recovery mode
[23:53] <goltoof> anon33_,  hold shift key during bootup
[23:54] <goltoof> etheretic1,  try another player
[23:54] <_pg_> is there a #transmission?
[23:54] <anon33_> goltoof: what commands should I issue? Is there a file I.can alter?
[23:54] <plitter> hello has someone found a fix for mic on the asus eee 1005px??
[23:55] <goltoof> anon33_, first i'd try resetting the password
[23:55] <goltoof> anon33_,  are you in recovery mode?
[23:55] <Megabyte> Hello everyone
[23:55] <anon33_> goltoof booting up, and I know the password
[23:55] <Megabyte> I'm trying to translate xiphos to my mother tongue and I am required to build it to complete the process. However, trying to build it results in complete failure.
[23:56] <Megabyte> This is the log.
[23:56] <Megabyte> http://nopaste.info/6c27b2f121.html
[23:56] <Megabyte> Can you please give me instructions about what must I do to get xiphos to build?
[23:57] <Dream_th> TheSelby: thank you for your help, althou it doesn't work for me, maybe its because its on openvz, anyhow i have to go now. thanks again
[23:57] <goltoof> anon33_, ic... try reinstalling gnome, if not that at least you got command access
[23:57] <etheretic1> goltoof: same with mplayer.
[23:58] <gasull> Hi.  I still don't get the thing about "long term support".  Is it recommended to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 or not?=
[23:58] <goltoof> etheretic1,  smplayer
[23:58] <eTiger13> i upgraded 10.04 server to 10.10 and now the welcome message that appears when I ssh in is doubled. it shows the welcome for 10.10 and 10.04. how can i edit it so it only shows the 10.10 message?
[23:59] <lee> eTiger13: check out /etc/motd* ?
[23:59] <DanThirst> hey im running 10.10, I'm using gnome and i have amarok installed... it plays like 3 seconds of a song really fast
[23:59] <anon33_> goltoof, what was the package name again?
[23:59] <goltoof> anon33_,   sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[23:59] <etheretic1> goltoof: installing...


[04:34] <mup> Bug #1855192 changed: maas edge snap produces rack controller error <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855192>
[04:34] <mup> Bug #1899169 changed: Failed Virsh console of Pods <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899169>
[04:34] <mup> Bug #1905411 changed: MAAS 2.9RC1 - never enlist node with NIC SFP+  <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905411>
[04:37] <mup> Bug #1855192 opened: maas edge snap produces rack controller error <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855192>
[04:37] <mup> Bug #1899169 opened: Failed Virsh console of Pods <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899169>
[04:37] <mup> Bug #1905411 opened: MAAS 2.9RC1 - never enlist node with NIC SFP+  <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905411>
[04:40] <mup> Bug #1855192 changed: maas edge snap produces rack controller error <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855192>
[04:40] <mup> Bug #1899169 changed: Failed Virsh console of Pods <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899169>
[04:40] <mup> Bug #1905411 changed: MAAS 2.9RC1 - never enlist node with NIC SFP+  <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905411>
[22:57] <mup> Bug #1906720 changed: Fix the disable_ssl_certificate_validation option <sts> <sts-sponsor-ddstreet> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Bionic):Incomplete by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Focal):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon>
[22:57] <mup> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Groovy):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Hirsute):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1906720>
[23:00] <mup> Bug #1906720 opened: Fix the disable_ssl_certificate_validation option <sts> <sts-sponsor-ddstreet> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Bionic):Incomplete by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Focal):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon>
[23:00] <mup> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Groovy):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Hirsute):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1906720>
[23:06] <mup> Bug #1906720 changed: Fix the disable_ssl_certificate_validation option <sts> <sts-sponsor-ddstreet> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Bionic):Incomplete by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Focal):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon>
[23:06] <mup> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Groovy):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <python-httplib2 (Ubuntu Hirsute):Fix Released by hypothetical-lemon> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1906720>
[23:50] <mup> Bug #1912971 opened: recursive dns always fail <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1912971>
[23:59] <mup> Bug #1912971 changed: recursive dns always fail <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1912971>


[07:08] <calcmandan> hey folks and good ol' boys
[07:16] <isomari> greetings, I just noticed that my daily apt-get update is not listing all my repos. eg. I don't see universe anymore
[07:24] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:24] <calcmandan> O/
[07:33] <deanman> Hi, any fish shell user around that also makes use of snaps ?
[09:16] <yuradoc> hello, I'm trying to use systemd for mount of the partitions and directories
[09:16] <yuradoc> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MVcZsqTBJz/
[09:17] <yuradoc> syslog say systemd[1]: var-www-html.mount: Mount process exited, code=exited, status=32/n/a
[09:18] <yuradoc> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/McmpFzwtt4/
[09:18] <yuradoc> this is ^^ syslog
 Hello I am using dark breeze theme all apps work ok but when I use cisco packet tracer the text in menu become barely visible is their any way to fix this apart from changing the theme
[09:19] <yuradoc> directories won't mount and break other mount
[09:19] <yuradoc> what to do?
[09:45] <isomari> greetings, what is the network tool that shows me the speed of each nic in a bond?
[10:44] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[12:13] <gt8ost4l> anybody here?
[12:15] <BluesKaj_> got question? just ask
[12:15] <gt8ost4l> BluesKaj_: yes
[12:16] <gt8ost4l> BluesKaj_: i got a problem with the scroll speed on kubuntu 19.04 dolphins scrolls to fast
[12:21] <BluesKaj_> gt8ost4l, system settings>hardware>input devices>mouse>acceleration profile?...not sure that will help tho
[12:23] <gt8ost4l> BluesKaj_: nop i tried that already that and pointer speed to no avail!
[12:25] <diogenes_> gt8ost4l, maybe the legacy synaptic driver would do better with your device than the libinput, sometimes it does sometimes doesn't, no guarantees.
[12:27] <gt8ost4l> diogenes_: what is it called
[12:29] <BluesKaj_> gt8ost4l, is this desktop pc?
[12:29] <gt8ost4l> yes
[12:29] <gt8ost4l> lapto though
[12:29] <gt8ost4l> laptop
[12:29] <diogenes_> gt8ost4l, on debian it's called: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.
[12:31] <gt8ost4l> diogenes_: is it a gui?
[12:32] <diogenes_> gt8ost4l, no, it's a driver, basically there are two drivers for touchpads: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and xserver-xorg-input-libinput, by default newer distros are using  xserver-xorg-input-libinput and on some older machines it's acting weird, that's why replacing it with  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics sometimes fixes the issue.
[12:37] <gt8ost4l> diogenes_: so its just for touchpads i dont use my touchpad but usb mouse!
[12:38] <diogenes_> oh sorry, for mouse you have what you have, i guess you can open a bug.
[12:38] <BluesKaj_> yeah, touchpads are a pita :-)
[17:56] <Jonas_> alguem online


[00:47] <Ahmuck> got a problem.
[00:47] <Ahmuck> my clients start, present a login screen, user name & password, and then dump me back to the login screen
[00:47] <Ahmuck> could it be the syslog server?
[00:47] <Ahmuck> or something else
[00:47] <Ahmuck> er, sorry, ltsp
[12:03] <CTek> Hi guys, can someone help me with som information regarding LTSP. Thank you
[12:04] <alkisg> CTek: what exactly?
[12:04] <alkisg> Is it not in the docs?
[12:16] <CTek> yes it is i did make it  with a test enviroments on 2 laptops, 1 server second test client but here is my problem:
[12:17] <CTek> I have a eBox server in my organisation, It is based on Ubuntu, it can have boot biles sent via dhcp. and with LDAP integration this will be the perfct setup
[12:18] <CTek> so i want to make the eBox server also a LTSP server
[12:19] <CTek> It is possible to export the client image that i make to the ebox ? and work ? :)
[12:29] <alkisg> Why not just install ltsp-server in the ebox server?
[12:29] <CTek> this is what i want to do although the ebox server is a little complicated
[12:30] <CTek> it has a config system that is managed via web and any modification made by hand (touching files directly) could be overwrittne
[12:30] <CTek> so i have to do as little modifications to the structure as possible
[12:30] <alkisg> If you install ltsp-server (not standalone) it doesn't include a dhcp server
[12:30] <alkisg> So you can use the ebox dhcp server...
[12:31] <CTek> yes
[12:31] <CTek> i can specify to send a boot file
[12:31]  * alkisg doesn't get what the actual question is.
[12:31] <CTek> the question(s):
[12:32] <CTek> 1 can i put a boot file made from another LTS server into a different bootp server and work ?
[12:32] <alkisg> Sure
[12:33] <CTek> 2 what are the special requirements to make on the server to make it work (instal LTSP server etc.
[12:33] <alkisg> The boot file is served with tftp
[12:33] <CTek> i mean can it serve the file with out the LTSP server ?? and the client will load the img ok ?
[12:33] <CTek> yes
[12:33] <alkisg> The "virtual disk" with nbd
[12:34] <alkisg> Do you want the first, the second, or both of them in the ebox server?
[12:34] <CTek> can you please explain a little more (like for a noob )
[12:35] <CTek> i have parsed all the documentation but this porting thing is not "common knoledge" :)
[12:35] <alkisg> How ltsp works? Do read the docs, it explains the architecture quite qell
[12:35] <alkisg> *well
[12:35] <alkisg> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
[12:36] <alkisg> As far as I understand you, you don't need any porting at all
[12:36] <CTek> ?
[12:36] <alkisg> You just want to install ltsp-server in the ebox server...
[12:36] <CTek> yes, exactly
[12:36] <alkisg> That should be pretty straight forward...
[12:36] <CTek> another issue is that the ebox is a LDAP server aswell
[12:37] <CTek> ok here is a little short description of what i want to do:
[12:37] <CTek> 1 copy the boot file that i made to ebox bootp
[12:37] <alkisg> Replace that with "install ltsp-server and start from scratch" :)
[12:38] <alkisg> It'll be easier this way, you won't be mixed up :)
[12:38] <CTek> :))
[12:38] <CTek> actually installing ltsp from scratch is simple :)
[12:38] <alkisg> Right
[12:38] <CTek> and will work out of the box
[12:38] <alkisg> So forget all about copying, you don't need it
[12:38] <alkisg> You just need to configure the ebox dhcp server to send a boot filename
[12:39] <CTek> ok... and ... i end up using 2 servers instead of 1 ...
[12:39] <CTek> i for dhcp and serves a bootp file that points to the second (LTSP) server
[12:40] <CTek> and no LDAP integration
[12:40] <CTek> :(
[12:40] <CTek> sorry, i have to run now for some time
[12:40] <alkisg> Erm, what?
[12:40] <alkisg> I obviously didn't understand what you want to do
[12:40] <alkisg> Come back later... :)
[12:41] <CTek> ok, i'll be back in a short while i hope :)
[12:41] <CTek> some admin task to do , Thank you for assistance, I'll shury return
[12:42] <alkisg> If you want the ltsp server to be a different server than the ebox server, then you just need "next-server" in the ebox dhcp server.
[12:42] <alkisg> No copying at all...
[14:24] <Ahmuck> need a bot that does !ltsp and points to the docs
[17:50] <mgariepy> good afternoon everyone
[18:00] <Lns> hi mgariepy
[18:00] <Lns> meeting, right?
[18:04] <mgariepy> in an hour i thinks
[18:05] <mgariepy> think**
[18:06] <Lns> OH, stupid dst
[18:06] <Lns> heh
[18:06] <mgariepy> hehe
[18:57] <alkisg> Meeting in 3' ?
[18:59] <highvoltage> yep
[18:59] <mgariepy> Lns, now it's the right time i guess
[18:59] <highvoltage> I can't say that I'm ready for it
[19:14] <highvoltage> sbalneav: moo
[19:15] <highvoltage> sbalneav: we need another EC member for quorum
[20:28] <alkisg> highvoltage: "Bug that crashes X when enter is pressed is now resolved" ==> when?!!! with a 3-day-old ubuntu live cd I'm still getting it...
[20:35] <highvoltage> alkisg: it was fixed just a few hours ago
[20:35] <alkisg> wow, nice! At last! :)
[20:35] <highvoltage> alkisg: it will probably be in tomorrow's build
[20:36]  * alkisg wonders why he didn't get a launchpad notification from the bug report...
[20:37] <highvoltage> alkisg: maybe keybuk still needs to update it
[20:38] <alkisg> Ah, here's the correct one, I've been monitoring duplicates etc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/532047
[20:42] <alkisg> Nah, it appears that there are at least 3 different issues with the same symptoms: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/529230
[20:42] <alkisg> That one isn't resolved yet...