[05:46] <soulrider> jd823592: you can download it for free, sure, but if you want it mailed to you youre gonna ahve to pay a bit
[05:46] <jd823592> GRUB is not a problem but i would like to have KDE and GNOME ... i will have to do it the harder way
[05:46] <aldin> dario, see u about 10mins ok
[05:46] <dario> ok
[05:47] <dario> if i could resolve the problem i will be here
[05:47] <Jucato> jd823592: hm.. they don't ship the DVD. but you can still download it
[05:47] <soulrider> jd823592: you can just do 'sudo aptitude install kde' an dinstall kde if you have gnome i think
[05:47] <dario> couldn't
[05:47] <soulrider> and the other way round too
[05:47] <jd823592> the problem is I do not have a connection to the net of my own
[05:48] <dario> hi all
[05:48] <dario> then
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> jd823592: sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop for GNOME
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> jd823592: sudo aptitude install kde-desktop for KDE
[05:48] <dario> can someone tell me how can i get permission to write on this disk
[05:48] <dario> ?
[05:48] <Jucato> er.. there is not kde-desktop package NiceGuyUK
[05:48] <fdoving> NiceGuyUK: it's actuall kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop :)
[05:48] <jd823592> on what if i have UBUNTU cd and KUBUNTU cd ... is it possible to kind of upgrade installed UBUNUTU by the KUBUNTU to UBUNTU with KDE and GNOME? :D
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> ah, my mistake ;)
[05:49] <Jucato> jd823592: it's possible, but you have to download the Alternate Install CDs, not the Desktop (Live) CDs
[05:49] <fdoving> jd823592: if you ahve the alternate install cds you can first install one of them, then add the other and install the second desktop environment from the second cd.
[05:49] <NiceGuyUK> does make me wonder though - the number of OSes that *assume* you have a net connection
[05:49] <dario> pls tell me how can i get permission to write on the disk i just created with sudo without using sudo command and from the normal browser
[05:50] <NiceGuyUK> dario: you'd need to use sudo to fix the permissions so you can use it non-sudo
[05:50] <dario> ok
[05:50] <dario> the tell me
[05:50] <dario> *then
[05:50] <Jucato> NiceGuyUK: not most... only the 1 CD distros (referring to GNU/Linux OS's)
[05:50] <dario> what should i do
[05:50] <ubuntu_> !ntfs
[05:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:51] <jd823592> i am not sure if i get it... the alternate install cd is exactly what? :) ... there is one shippment of Ubuntu 7.04 and Kubuntu 7.04 heading to my home ...are these cds sufficiente
[05:51] <NiceGuyUK> dario: what is the drive mounted as?
[05:51] <Jucato> jd823592: um..no. the ones being shipped are the Desktop CD's
[05:51] <dario> dariosfolder
[05:51] <Jucato> jd823592: Desktop CD = Live CD with Graphical installer. Alternate Install CD = text based installer with more options
[05:51] <dario>  /media/dariosfolder
[05:51] <NiceGuyUK> dario: is it an external disk ?
[05:51] <Jucato> jd823592: you cannot use the Desktop CD as an offline (no internet connection) source
[05:51] <dario> no
[05:52] <dario> internal sata
[05:52] <NiceGuyUK> dario: what format? ext2, ext3, windows?
[05:52] <dario> ext3
[05:52] <jd823592> oh .. alright then i guess the shipment was useless ... my fault
[05:52] <jeroen_> hi all i have a question , ive joined a club and have my own site, but it wont show the inlog apellet ...can someone help me
[05:52] <NiceGuyUK> !paste
[05:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:53] <NiceGuyUK> dario: can you paste you /etc/fstab file to the pastebin above, and give me the url of the paste?
[05:53] <Jucato> jd823592: well, not entirely useless... you can at least install one of them :)
[05:53] <jd823592> I would even purchase the UBUNTU dvd but i am not sure if it is possible for my country
[05:53] <Jucato> (and give your other CD's away)
[05:53] <dthacker> jd823592: not useless, you can always pass them on.  Or give them to someone to copy.
[05:54] <jd823592> Jucato: sure I can but the second is quite redundant then :) ... i will have to switch between them in grub
[05:54] <dthacker> is there a LAMP metapackage?
[05:54] <Jucato> !lamp | dthacker
[05:54] <ubotu> dthacker: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:54] <dario> humm
[05:54] <jd823592> Yes that would be good if i knew someone who is interested in LINUX
[05:54] <dario> wgat us /etc/fstab
[05:54] <dario> what is /etc/fstab
[05:55] <NiceGuyUK> dario: type "cat /etc/fstab" (without the quotes) in a console window
[05:55] <adaptr> !fstab
[05:55] <jd823592> the society i am in would rather buy WIN than try LINUX
[05:55] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:56] <marie_> Hello
[05:56] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19296/
[05:56] <dario> here it is
[05:56] <NiceGuyUK> thx
[05:57] <jd823592> i will have a look if its possible to get UBUNTU, KUBUNTU DVD there
[05:57] <marie_> I lost keyboard accessas sson as I get into X, I had to create a new session with new username, can someone help me please?
[05:58] <jd823592> but i still cant see the difference between Desktop v. and the "Alternate"
[05:59] <marie_> someone said to me that I have to remove all me .kde files so I would have to redo all my setting, is there not an other waty to deal this issue?
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> dario: hmm, it seems /media/dariofolder is a directory not a drive
[05:59] <rmd_> i can't find the theme manager in kubuntu...
[05:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | rmd_
[05:59] <ubotu> rmd_: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:59] <dario> humm
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> dario: so try "sudo chown -r dario /media/dariofolder"
[05:59] <dario> yes it is the directory
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> dario: and "sudo chgrp -r /media/dariofolder"
[05:59] <dario> ccreated in the drive i just mounted
[06:00] <rmd_> why would i use gnome themes in kde?
[06:00] <NiceGuyUK> that changes its owner and group to yourself
[06:00] <Jucato> jd823592: Desktop CD = Live CD, you can run a full Kubuntu system from the CD, without installing anything on the hard disk.
[06:00] <Jucato> rmd_: read the second sentence
[06:00] <slougi> rmd_: read the whole thing
[06:00] <sivaji> !pastebin
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <dario> -r is an invalid option
[06:01] <dario> ;D
[06:01] <Jucato> jd823592: the Desktop CD also has a graphical installer. you can install Kubuntu and browse the internet or do something else with the Live CD at the same time. However, the options on the Desktop CD are very very basic
[06:01] <rmd_> i'm looking at menu-system settings-appearance, though.  and ther eis no theme manager to install new themes, as per the kde handbook
[06:01] <marie_> I losted access to my kde session - keaboard do not respond as soon as X start - Does anyone had experience this issue before?
[06:01] <jd823592> Jucato: this must have changed since 5.10 ... one friend of mine gave me requested cd with UBUNTU 5.10 and there were to CDs ... one installable and second LIVE
[06:01] <NiceGuyUK> dario: sorry, thats R not r
[06:01] <Jucato> rmd_: did you read the linked page?
[06:01] <fdoving> rmd_: kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol' try searching there.
[06:01] <Jucato> jd823592: yes. it has changed since Dapper (6.06)
[06:02] <Jucato> jd823592: the installable CD is now known as Alternate Install CD
[06:02] <jd823592> oh then i am waiting for nothing :)
[06:02] <Jucato> jd823592: the Live CD is now known as Desktop CD but with an added installer
[06:02] <jd823592> how can i get the alternate
[06:02] <Jucato> jd823592: not really, unlike the Breezy (5.10) Live CD's, you can install from the Desktop CD
[06:03] <dario> sudo chgrp -r /media/dariofolder
[06:03] <Jucato> Desktop CD = Live CD + basic GUI installer
[06:03] <dario> sudo chgrp -r /media/dariosfolder
[06:03] <dario> dario@DarioTux:~$ sudo chgrp -R /media/dariosfolder
[06:03] <dario> chgrp: missing operand after `/media/dariosfolder'
[06:03] <NiceGuyUK> dario: -R not -r ;)
[06:03] <jd823592> yeah but as you have mentioned with just basic features
[06:03] <NiceGuyUK> dario: sudo chgrp -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:04] <Jucato> jd823592: I said, basic options. but it installs the full thing
[06:04] <dario> ok
[06:04] <dario> i did
[06:04] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/
[06:04] <Jucato> jd823592: basic options means you set your partition,your language/location, keyboard, etc.
[06:04] <dario> ok
[06:04] <dario> now it is mine
[06:04] <jd823592> aaaaaaaaaah... so what do you mean by options ... setting the system up may not be that big problem
[06:04] <Cnl_Delta> hi, has anyone here used gparted and then have ubuntu boot up but not allow you to log in?
[06:04] <dario> so the problem is resolved
[06:04] <jd823592> ok
[06:05] <NiceGuyUK> dario: hopefully....
[06:05] <Jucato> jd823592: the Desktop CD installs a full, complete, functional system
[06:05] <dario> aldin i think i solved the problem
[06:05] <Jucato> jd823592: it just does it differently from the ALternate Install CD
[06:05] <aldin> dario: i just got in
[06:05] <aldin> dario: say
[06:05] <jd823592> ok and I am sorry I am sometimes quite slow
[06:05] <dario> now i have the permission on that folder
[06:05] <jd823592> Jucato
[06:05] <jd823592> :
[06:05] <aldin> dario: did u changed ur /etc/fstab
[06:05] <dario> because it created from he user dario(me)
[06:06] <Jucato> jd823592: it's ok
[06:06] <jd823592> what would you set while installing from ALTERNATE
[06:06] <dario> cat /etc/fstab
[06:06] <jd823592> what else is there
[06:06] <dario> i wrote this
[06:06] <aldin> dario: paste it
[06:06] <Jucato> jd823592: you can choose more types of filesystem, you can have LVM/RAID support, you can choose to install a command line (no GUI) system
[06:06] <sivaji> ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19298/
[06:06] <Jucato> there's also the OEM option
[06:06] <kai> word son
[06:06] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19296/
[06:07] <aldin> dario: this pastebin is cool isnt it hehe
[06:07] <mcgregor> hi everyone
[06:08] <mcgregor> i have a problem with ktorrent
[06:08] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19299/
[06:08] <mcgregor> can someone help me
[06:08] <dario> now it should be ok
[06:08] <dario> ;D
[06:08] <NiceGuyUK> ok, time for a question of my own ... is there much advantage to be gained from running a 64-bit Ubuntu over a 32-bit one?
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> not unless you're running 4gb or more of ram
[06:09] <aldin> dario: what is this? u dont have sdb partitons nowhere?
[06:09] <jd823592> I would like to have the ALTERNATE anyway... but i cant find out if it is possible to purchase it from my country not to cost a fortune
[06:09] <dario> humm soryy i don't understand
[06:09] <dario> this is
[06:09] <NiceGuyUK> Daisuke_Ido: why the RAM requirement?
[06:09] <dario> cat /etc/fstab
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> NiceGuyUK: a 32 bit os can't use 4gb
[06:09] <jussi01> mcgregor: whats the issue?
[06:09] <mcgregor> can someone help me
[06:09] <dario> ok i understand
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> 3.25 i believe is the max
[06:10] <aldin> dario: give me 'df -Th' again
[06:10] <NiceGuyUK> Daisuke_Ido: are there not performance enhancements (i.e., speed) as well though?
[06:10] <aldin> dario: on paste
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but a 64 bit OS can take advantage of that
[06:10] <mcgregor> jussi01:what?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> there are minor speed differences
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but nothing dealbreaking
[06:10] <slougi> Daisuke_Ido: it can actually
[06:10] <jussi01> mcgregor: whats your problem?
[06:10] <NiceGuyUK> ok, thanks for the heads-up
[06:11] <slougi> 4GB is the max
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> if there's nothing you *absolutely have to have* there's no reason to go to a 64 bit OS
[06:11] <jd823592> Jucato thank you for helping me
[06:11] <Jucato> jd823592: no problem
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> slougi: fair enough, but every system i've seen with 4gb of ram and a 32 bit os shows 3.25gb ram
[06:11] <NiceGuyUK> Daisuke_Ido: not even the bragging rights? ;-P
[06:11] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- sure, tell me that after I've installed the AMD64 version
[06:11] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19300/
[06:11] <dario> here it is
[06:11] <tgc0d3r> I'm at Panera bread and I need to login to my router's admin page at home. I know the IP address at home. How can I do this?
[06:12] <slougi> Daisuke_Ido: that's usually cause a certain amount of ram is reserved for the kernel. e.g. linux by default will with 4GB reserve 1GB of ram for the kernel and leave 3GB for user-space
[06:12] <mcgregor> jussi01:if i get in ktorrent the ubuntu is working like shit
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> slougi: makes sense
[06:12] <Dragnslcr> tgc0d3r- your router shouldn't allow logins from outside anyway
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> mcgregor: limit your upload speed
[06:12] <sivaji> (firefox-bin:5342): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[06:13] <mcgregor> jussi01:i can not get in ktorrent
[06:13] <NiceGuyUK> Dragnslcr: not strictly true, but better to restrict IP, use a non-standard port num and a strong password
[06:13] <tgc0d3r> Dragnslcr: I know that. I can't remember whether or not I enabled remote login.
[06:13] <jussi01> mcgregor: I assume your using kubuntu?
[06:13] <mcgregor> jussi01:yes
[06:14] <dario> aldin are you still alive?
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and mcgregor?  please watch your langueage
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> language*
[06:14] <aldin> dario: here it says /dev/sdb3 is on "/" but in fstab it is /dev/sda3
[06:14] <mcgregor> ok
[06:14] <mcgregor> i'm sorry
[06:14] <jussi01> mcgregor: what is ktorrent doing badly?
[06:14] <tgc0d3r> I have a very strong password on there. So does anybody know how I can connect to it then?
[06:14] <NiceGuyUK> !amd64
[06:14] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[06:14] <dario> beacause
[06:14] <jussi01> it just doenst start?
[06:14] <dario> i did this before
[06:15] <aldin> dario: lets do it this way
[06:15] <Dragnslcr> tgc0d3r- if you haven't set it to allow connections from the outside, you can't, unless you RDC/VNC in to a computer on the inside
[06:15] <dario> sudo chown -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:15] <dario> and
[06:15] <dario>  sudo chgrp -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:16] <Dragnslcr> tgc0d3r- if you have, I would guess you just go to http://address:port
[06:16] <tgc0d3r> I didn't change the port if I did, but I don't know what the default port is
[06:16] <jussi01> mcgregor: try opening it in a terminal and pastebin the out put. use: ktorrent %i %m -caption "%c" %u as the command....
[06:16] <tgc0d3r> I think I read somewhere it might be :80
[06:17] <Dragnslcr> Depends on the router. First ones I would guess would be 8000 or 8080
[06:17] <xst> How do I get acroread? apt-get doesn't know it :-(
[06:17] <Dragnslcr> If it was port 80, you wouldn't be able to run a web server inside the router
[06:17] <NiceGuyUK> xst: just download it from Adobe's site
[06:17] <NiceGuyUK> xst: it has its own installer
[06:18] <jussi01> xst: you need actual acroread? there are plenty of open source alternnatives
[06:18] <xst> all alternatives sux
[06:18] <xst> especially kpdf
[06:18] <Jucato> !acroread
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <Jucato> bah
[06:18] <NiceGuyUK> !acrobat
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <Jucato> !info acroread
[06:18] <ubotu> Package acroread does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:18] <Jucato> hm..they removed it?
[06:19] <dario> ok aldin
[06:19] <dario> i think the matter is that i wrote the two commands
[06:19] <xst> yes, it seems so :-(
[06:19] <dario>  sudo chgrp -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:19] <dario> sudo chown -R dario /media/dariosfolder
[06:19] <dario> first the second one and then the first one
[06:19] <NiceGuyUK> xst: just download it from Adobe's site
[06:20] <jussi01> sivaji: try doing sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[06:20] <jussi01> sivaji: then reinstall firefox
[06:20] <mcgregor> jussi01:
[06:20] <mcgregor> Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[06:20] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:20] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:20] <jussi01> mcgregor: pastebin it
[06:20] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:20] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:21] <jussi01> !pastebin | mcgregor
[06:21] <mcgregor> Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
[06:21] <ubotu> mcgregor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:21] <aldin> dario: its ok, just sec, i am writing u howto on pastebin, in meantime du this 'sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup'
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:21] <mcgregor> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:21] <jussi01> mcgregor: !!!
[06:21] <mcgregor> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5868' to 'kded'
[06:21] <mcgregor> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:21] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:21] <mcgregor> Qt: Warning: ktorrent: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:21] <mcgregor> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[06:21] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed
[06:21] <nuxil> is the kdxocker package broken ?
[06:21] <nuxil> *kxdocker
[06:21] <NiceGuyUK> nuxil: probably, I never got it to work either
[06:21] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | mcgregor, READ THIS
[06:21] <ubotu> mcgregor, READ THIS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:22] <jussi01> nuxil: i had problems with it too
[06:22] <nuxil> hmm.. yea then i guess its broken
[06:23] <dthacker> Jucato: seveas has a nice LAMP meta at his repositor
[06:23] <jussi01> nuxil: kooldocck is a nice alternative
[06:23] <NiceGuyUK> !info kooldock
[06:23] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[06:23] <nuxil> ah.. i'll try it
[06:23] <tsdgeos> xst: may i know why you think kpdf specially sucks?
[06:23] <Jucato> oooh tsdgeos is here :)
[06:24] <xst> kpdf's rendering is really slow and it doesn't support opacity
[06:24] <Jucato> xst: it seems that the acroread package is no longer included in feisty, but is present in other releases
[06:24] <mcgregor> jussi01:what i need to do in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <xst> However, kpdf's print menu is really good
[06:25] <xst> Far better than acroread
[06:25] <Jucato> tsdgeos: I'd have concur with the rendering speed, but I'd have to specify that only on Kubuntu >:)
[06:25] <jussi01> mcgregor: you need to click paste then give me the address.
[06:25] <tsdgeos> Jucato: that's because kpdf in Kubuntu is not kpdf
[06:25] <tsdgeos> just some shit ubuntu developers decided to do
[06:25] <Jucato> tsdgeos: yep :)
[06:26] <jussi01> !language | tsdgeos
[06:26] <ubotu> tsdgeos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:26] <jussi01> :P
[06:26] <tsdgeos> i can't say shit?
[06:26] <Jucato> tsdgeos: kpdf on suse and gentoo seem to be functioning quite well
[06:26] <tsdgeos> i don't know other word for that
[06:26] <Jucato> tsdgeos: not in here :D
[06:26] <Jucato> my favorite: "krap" :D
[06:26] <mcgregor> jussi01:
[06:26] <spitwise> heh
[06:26] <mcgregor> Paste something
[06:27] <mcgregor> Please correct the errors
[06:27] <mcgregor> Your nametheodor
[06:27] <mcgregor>   Syntax
[06:27] <mcgregor>   This field is required.
[06:27] <mcgregor>   Text
[06:27] <mcgregor>    Paste!
[06:27] <mcgregor> 41052172
[06:27] <mcgregor>   2004-2007 Ubuntu Nederland. Ubuntu and Canonical are trademarks of Canonical Ltd.
[06:27] <mcgregor>  Feedback  Legal
[06:27] <Jucato> mcgregor: don't paste in here
[06:27] <spitwise> thats krappy
[06:27] <jussi01> mcgregor: you need to paste the terinal stuff into the box, then click paste
[06:27] <aldin> dario, are u there?
[06:27] <dario> yes
[06:28] <aldin> dario, paste sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:28] <dario> and now?
[06:28] <jussi01> mcgregor: you add your name, and the stuff you want me to see, then click paste, and give me the address
[06:28] <Jucato> tsdgeos: wait till xst gets a peek at okular, and he'll quickly change his mind, right? :D
[06:29] <aldin> dario, paste sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:29] <tsdgeos> i hope
[06:29] <aldin> dario, give me link to see it
[06:29] <hdxx> mcgregor: past here next time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:29] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19306/
[06:33] <mcgregor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19307/
[06:34] <nuxil> why is there not a "get new theme" like there is get new wallpaper in Kcontroll ?
[06:35] <aldin> dario, is it kubuntu 7.04?
[06:35] <jussi01> mcgregor: Im sorry, I dont know how to fix that error. Maybe someone else will know.
[06:36] <aldin> dario, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19308/
[06:36] <Jucato> nuxil: because the current kde theme manager is a very incomplete (lousy?) implementation of theming
[06:36] <mcgregor> jussi01:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19309/
[06:36] <aldin> dario, ?
[06:37] <dario> ii0m her
[06:37] <egarim> exists any add on that can read(voice in english) the objects of email with thunderbird ?
[06:37] <dario> i'm here
[06:37] <dario> yes
[06:37] <dario> it is
[06:37] <mcgregor> who know to fix this problem ????????????????????
[06:37] <mcgregor> help me
[06:37] <aldin> dario, ok, didi u made backup of fstab
[06:37] <mcgregor> this is my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19309/
[06:38] <os2mac> has anyone gotten kmobilephone tools working with a razr phone?
[06:38] <dario> yes you told me to write it before
[06:38] <dario> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup
[06:38] <aldin> mcgregor, exit, and sudo command
[06:38] <dario> this?
[06:39] <mek_> hmm, anyone tried to install vmware-server out of the canonical commercial rep?
[06:40] <mcgregor> aldin:what
[06:40] <aldin>  dario, ok, now 'sudo kate /etc/fstab'
[06:40] <hdxx> mcgregor: slovenian?
[06:40] <mcgregor> hdxx:what?
[06:40] <dario> ok
[06:40] <dario> one minute
[06:41] <hdxx> mcgregor: are you from slovenia
[06:41] <mcgregor> no
[06:41] <dario> i did it
[06:41] <mcgregor> hdxx:no
[06:41] <dario> ok
[06:41] <aldin> dario, ok now copy http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19308/ to that file
[06:41] <mcgregor> hdxx:why?
[06:41] <hdxx> mcgregor: when you type nick and : then make a space (press Space)
[06:42] <aldin> dario, before copying delete all
[06:42] <hdxx> mcgregor: like this
[06:42] <aldin> dario, what was in it
[06:42] <hdxx> mcgregor: notlike this
[06:43] <aldin> dario, ?
[06:43] <dario> n
[06:43] <mcgregor> hdxx:ok
[06:43] <dario> ok
[06:43] <dario> i did it
[06:43] <mcgregor> hdxx:you know to fix my problem
[06:43] <aldin> dario, save it and close
[06:44] <aldin> mcgregor, did u listen my advice?
[06:44] <hdxx> mc__: what is you problem
[06:44] <dario> ok
[06:44] <mcgregor> hdxx:this is my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19309/
[06:44] <dario> and now?
[06:44] <mcgregor> aldin:no
[06:44] <aldin> dario, paste me '/boot/grub/menu.lst' u can open it with kate editor
[06:45] <aldin> mcgregor, dont be root, exit, and type sudo something
[06:45] <mek_> found the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=426026
[06:46] <mcgregor> aldin:what
[06:46] <hdxx> mcgregor: sudo ktorrent
[06:47] <aldin> mcgregor, u can connect to xserver cause u are root@localhost
[06:47] <aldin> mcgregor, type exit
[06:47] <dario> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19312/
[06:47] <aldin> dario, find this line it is on bottom kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=a079ec1a-3c43-4f68-af0a-1ffa6906ec68 ro quiet splash
[06:48] <kemit> mdr
[06:48] <dario> ok i finded it
[06:49] <dario> i used find in kat :P
[06:49] <dario> kate
[06:49] <mcgregor> aldin:
[06:49] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor# sudo ktorrent exit
[06:49] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:49] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:49] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:49] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:49] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:50] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:50] <mcgregor> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:50] <mcgregor> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-6152' to 'kded'
[06:50] <mcgregor> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:50] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:50] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:50] <mcgregor> Qt: Warning: ktorrent: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:50] <mcgregor> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[06:50] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
[06:53] <mcgregor> aldin:?
[06:53] <dario> i disconnected
[06:53] <dario> he disconnected
[06:53] <dario> but he is coming back
[06:53] <aldin> dario, aru there?
[06:53] <dario> yes
[06:53] <dario> now
[06:54] <dario> i finded the line
[06:54] <mcgregor> aldin:?
[06:54] <aldin> mcgregor, say
[06:54] <aldin> dario, just sec do u have MSN account
[06:54] <dario> yes
[06:54] <mcgregor> aldin:
[06:55] <mcgregor> mcgregor@mcgregor-desktop:~$ sudo su
[06:55] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor# sudo ktorrent exit
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:55] <vbgunz> is there a way to get the verbose boot screen back? the one from Dapper that told you if a service was OK or Failed?
[06:55] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:55] <mcgregor> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:55] <aldin> mcgregor, type exit till u dont get
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:55] <mcgregor> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:55] <aldin> mcgregor@mgrgor-desktop
[06:55] <mcgregor> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-6152' to 'kded'
[06:55] <mcgregor> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:55] <mcgregor> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:55] <aldin> mcgregor, dont paste it more
[06:55] <mcgregor> Qt: Warning: ktorrent: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:56] <mcgregor> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[06:56] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
[06:56] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor#
[06:56] <mcgregor> root@mcgregor-desktop:/home/mcgregor# exit sudo ktorrent
[06:56] <mcgregor> exit
[06:56] <mcgregor> bash: exit: sudo: numeric argument required
[06:56] <aldin> dario, just sec
[06:56] <dario> i'm here
[06:56] <aldin> mcgregor, close that konsole
[06:56] <aldin> on X button
[06:56] <mcgregor> aldin:ok
[06:57] <aldin> mcgregor, why do u want to be able to run ktorrent as root?
[06:57] <aldin> mcgregor, open new konsole
[06:57] <mcgregor> aldin:yes
[06:58] <aldin> mcgregor, just type ktorrent
[06:58] <mcgregor> aldin:
[06:58] <mcgregor> mcgregor@mcgregor-desktop:~$ ktorrent
[06:58] <mcgregor> ktorrent is already running!
[06:58] <mcgregor> ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
[06:58] <aldin> mcgregor, ok type 'killall ktorrent'
[06:59] <mcgregor> aldin:yes
[06:59] <dario> kill is better of window's task menager
[07:00] <dario> task menager is shit
[07:00] <aldin> mcgregor, now type ktorrent
[07:01] <mehmet> hi
[07:01] <mehmet> i deleted partial file :( so i can not update or install packgae :(
[07:01] <aldin> mehmet, hi bro (saraybosna)
[07:01] <aldin> mcgregor, ?
[07:01] <mehmet> aldin:  hi
[07:01] <aldin> dario, we are on standby ok
[07:01] <dario> okok
[07:01] <dario> no problem
[07:01] <aldin> mcgregor, what happened?
[07:01] <hdxx> bosanci :P
[07:02] <boyee> !cvs
[07:02] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[07:02] <aldin> hdxx, wow who u are hehe
[07:02] <boyee> !kdecvs
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdecvs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <hdxx> i'm not bosnian boy, i'm croatian:P
[07:02] <aldin> hdxx, hehe ubuntu-hr, i know bud_ he was in Sarajevo few months ago
[07:03] <aldin> hdxx, mehmet seesm to be turkye
[07:03] <aldin> *seems
[07:03] <hdxx> aldin: maybe:)
[07:03] <boyee> !cvs client
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvs client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <aldin> mcgregor, ?!?!
[07:04] <Arwen> the cvs client is also called 'cvs' afaik
[07:04] <boyee> what is the name of cvs client for kde?
[07:04] <mehmet> i deleted partial file :( so i can not update or install packgae :(
[07:05] <dthacker> boyee: gui or command line
[07:05] <fdoving> boyee: cervisia
[07:05] <dario> wow aldin you have a problem with this chat
[07:05] <dario> you alwayls crash
[07:05] <aldin> cgregor, ?!?
[07:05] <aldin> dario, damn
[07:05] <aldin> dario, this is keeping me in/out
[07:05] <dthacker> !language
[07:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:06] <dario> i see it
[07:06] <aldin> dthacker, sorry
[07:06] <dario> the log says connection reset by peer
[07:06] <dthacker> aldin: np, just remember :)
[07:06] <phpcode> how to install WINE?
[07:06] <aldin> phpcode, sudo apt-get install wine
[07:06] <aldin> dario, lets go,
[07:06] <dario> ok
[07:07] <Arwen> !wine | phpcode
[07:07] <ubotu> phpcode: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:07] <mcgregor> aldin:it's working very hard
[07:07] <aldin> dario, so, ur disks are SATA
[07:07] <aldin> mcgregor, ?
[07:07] <dario> yes thy are
[07:07] <dario> they
[07:08] <aldin> mcgregor, i dont understand
[07:08] <joe2370> Hi!  Where can I get advice about partitioning prior to doing a new install of Feisty?
[07:08] <mcgregor> aldin:it's working like shit the kubuntu
[07:08] <dthacker> phpcode: the package is called "wine"
[07:08] <aldin> mcgregor, it is working like charm to me... i dont knwowhat is problem?
[07:08] <dthacker> mcgregor: junk, garbage, other words that you may use
[07:09] <joe2370> I expected the installer to either walk me through it or to chose some reasonable defaults.
[07:09] <aldin> dario, lets go on private?
[07:09] <mehmet> i deleted partial file :( so i can not update or install packgae :(
[07:09] <dario> ok if you want
[07:09] <joe2370> Is there a kubuntu installation handbook/howto somewhere?
[07:09] <aldin> dario, are u registered on freenode
[07:09] <fdoving> mehmet: what is it you're trying to do?
[07:10] <dario> no
[07:10] <dario> :(
[07:10] <dario> i'm not
[07:10] <dario> we can use msn
[07:10] <aldin> hmm ok, lest go on MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:10] <mehmet> fdoving:  i deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/* :( so i can not update or install any packages :(
[07:10] <dario> ok i will try to add you
[07:11] <mehmet> fdoving: E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[07:11] <fdoving> mehmet: ok. in konsole 'sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'
[07:11] <fdoving> mehmet: then try again.
[07:11] <aldin> dario, hurry up
[07:11] <mehmet> fdoving:  thankksss
[07:11] <dario> ok
[07:11] <dario> i did it
[07:11] <aldin> ur in
[07:12] <fdoving> joe2370: it's very similar to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[07:13] <joe2370> So nobody knows of a kubuntu installation manual?  I'm looking for recommendations on how to partition my disk.
[07:15] <exconvictriddick> joe: you don't need a manual on how to partition your disk
[07:15] <exconvictriddick> Joe: what do you need help with?
[07:17] <kai> I've seen programs to make ISO's but there nothing inmy menu to use them ie 'kiso' is ther eanything else to creat cd-images
[07:17] <dthacker> kai: do you have K3B
[07:17] <dthacker> ?
[07:17] <ufuk> hi all
[07:17] <joe2370> exconvictriddick: I can't tell how kubuntu intends to partition my disk.  The installer simply says that hda1 will be / and hda5 will be swap.  I assume that this means the installer intends to create at least 5 partitions, including an extended one.  Since I can't tell what it intends to do, I assume I will need to partition the disk manually to ensure that something sensible is done.
[07:18] <kai> dthacker: yes I do
[07:19] <Blissex> joe2370: no. By convention the extended partition is #4, so the configuration will be 3 partitions: 1, 4 and 5.
[07:19] <kai> dthacker: is it already built-in? Do i need to install anything on the back end to make it work?
[07:19] <dthacker> kai: click on the tools menu item at the top of the K3B window.  The menu will show you "Burn CD Image"  select that.
[07:19] <joe2370> exconvictriddick: If there was an installation guide or some other form of documentation that discussed partitioning, then I'd be interested in reading it.  I don't know, for instance, if reiser support is compiled into the kernel or if it is available only as a module.  That would affect what filesystem I could use for which partition.
[07:19] <ernie> joe2370 - what the partioner is doing is correct. It will create / as hda1 and hda5 is swap. Thats Two Partitions.
[07:20] <exconvictriddick> Joe: ubuntu or Kubuntu will only create 2 partition after you tells it to use a unallocated free space... only / and swap partition.
[07:20] <joe2370> Two partitions is hardly what I would call sensible.  That means that if any log files get too big or if the user fills up his home directory, the system will likely lock up.
[07:21] <joe2370> The latter scenario seems rather probable, actually.
[07:21] <kai> dthacker: what about mounting images?
[07:21] <redhat26__> I would like to know ... how to decompress a tar.gz file
[07:21] <kai> Just mount them to a folder as normal?
[07:21] <ernie> Joe - the swap is usually around 2 gig and the rest is the rest . What size disk(s) do you have?
[07:21] <joe2370> ernie: It's a paltry 160GB
[07:21] <fdoving> joe2370: a more likely situation on desktop systems is that you have a full /home and a / with 10G free space because you overestimated the space you needed for / and underestimated the space needed for /home, or vice versa.
[07:22] <dthacker> kai: I usually use K3B to look at isos
[07:22] <ernie> you can always go LVM
[07:22] <joe2370> fdoving: but isn't it better to have that scenario than to have / and /home on the same partition and no free space at all?
[07:22] <exconvictriddick> Joe: well i dont' know what you intend to use kubuntu... mine is 9 gig on / and 2 gig on swap and only use to basic usuage... so if you want more i guess i can't help you.
[07:23] <killermach_> how do i get a list of installed packages that are installed into a text file for use on installing another computer?
[07:23] <fdoving> joe2370: no, there is a built in feature in ext3, that reserves a given percentage of the space to the root user ie. log-files etc. (5% by default). that way you won't get the problem with users filling the disk and everything failing.
[07:23] <kai> dthacker: I wanna make sure I can create cd-images and mount them. Im gunna be some where I maymay not be able to get on the internet
[07:24] <pollyo> ernie: Are there any downsides with LVM that you know of?
[07:24] <fdoving> killermach_: dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt, then user dpkg --set-selections < packagelist.txt
[07:24] <joe2370> fdoving: that's nice, but what if I format / with reiserfs?
[07:24] <killermach_> fdoving: thanks..
[07:24] <dthacker> kai: yes, I think so.  But you should test that and not take my word for it.
[07:25] <fdoving> joe2370: why would you do that? - i think reiserfs got the same feature though.
[07:25] <phpcode> i having a hard time installing flash player. This is the error i get when i follow the readme-fil: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer. .... help?
[07:25] <kai> dthacker: lol, ok
[07:25] <fdoving> phpcode: it doesn't support 64bit.
[07:25] <ernie> pollyo - Well I was told that with a Raid System - its a bit dodgey restoring things.
[07:25] <joe2370> I will accept the defaults and cross my fingers then.
[07:25] <fdoving> phpcode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:26] <pollyo> ernie: Do they give the option for LVM with the GUI install now?
[07:26] <joe2370> Thanks for all the advice, folks.
[07:26] <dthacker> joe2370: If it's any comfort, I have yet to have a day to day machine blow up because the default partitioning was too small
[07:26] <ernie> joe2370: If you're going to jam up your standard folders with 160G of stuff, you can always add on a drive and put your Disk Hogging stuff - on the extra drive. 160Gig should be absolute buckets
[07:26] <joe2370> dthacker: thanks.  it is, actually.
[07:27] <pollyo> ernie: I know they give you the option with the alternate disk.
[07:27] <ernie> pollyo : yeah - I worked it out one day. I've just redone my raid drives without LVM. So it can be done
[07:27] <joe2370> ernie: the trouble is, this user was using gentoo previously and DID fill up the entire disk with audacity projects.  So I expect it may happen again if I don't notice the disk filling up in time.
[07:28] <ernie> pollyo: Yeah I was meant to say , I've only seen it on the alternative - not sure whats on the desktop version of 7.04
[07:29] <ernie> joe2370: I would imagine they didn't need all of them on there at the same time...
[07:29] <pollyo> BRB
[07:29] <joe2370> I guess the moral of the story is that the default partitioning scheme is at least no worse than what the user would have if he used Windows.
[07:30] <joe2370> ernie: true enough.  But that's a lot of blank DVDs to fill up too.
[07:30] <ernie> joe2370: a ton to loose if the Hard Drive goes up in smoke too
[07:31] <joe2370> ernie: well, it was a RAID array, actually.  But that's what backups are for.
[07:31] <ernie> joe2370: The other thing is you can always throw them onto another folder on another drive, only they have access too
[07:32] <Alarm> hello , does someone know where the nvidia conf file is
[07:32] <joe2370> ernie: a good point.  I may stick a second disk in the box for making manual backups to and/or for storing large sets of data (like those audacity projects).
[07:32] <Alarm> on a webpage its mentioned to edit this file: /etc/modules.d/nvidia , but there is no modules.d dir on my system
[07:33] <eljefe> has anyone had to update their Kubuntu 7.04 yet?  I installed the day after it was released and I've had zero updates on my system.
[07:33] <Cnl_Delta> hey there, after using Gparted to resize winxp, i cannot log into xp or kubuntu, how can i recover kubuntu(i don't have the password to xp admin)
[07:33] <main2> my cybershit p200 is mounted readonly by default, any ideas why? > http://www.pastebin.ca/472538
[07:33] <ernie> joe2370: Yeah I've been down this road. I've setup a raid0 partition for video and I'll have another drive to throw them onto once they've done their converting. I've not tested the speed difference as yet. Its all fun :)
[07:34] <ernie> eljefe: Yes, I have and I had some minor updates. I used the 7.04 alternate disk though. If that makes any difference - I dunno.
[07:35] <eljefe> i don't know either
[07:35] <eljefe> main2: my iPod is Fat32 running Rockbox and it too mounts REad Only, not sure why but its annoying cause I cannot add music
[07:36] <main2> eljefe, sucks huh =/
[07:36] <eljefe> main2: its either a kernel problem or its that the Fat drive has "too many FATs" (File Allocation Tables)... i think that happened once to me on a USB thumb drive.  Sucks is right!
[07:36] <joe2370> ernie: actually, the user was using Edgy on RAID1+LVM2 until a week ago, but the Feisty upgrader didn't like that setup and hosed the entire system.  I'm doing a clean install of 7.04 and accepting only the defaults in the hopes of preventing that from happening again.  The user wants a machine that is essentially "a toaster."  I figure the more I diverge from the defaults, the more handholding the system will need.
[07:37] <main2> eljefe, i might grab a new kernel.. too see...
[07:38] <dthacker> Hi, K3b is complaining that it cannot find the MP3 decoder plugin.  I've installed the libmad0 and libmad0dev packages.  What else do I need to do to fix this?
[07:38] <eljefe> main2: let me know if that fixes anything!  I am looking into _not_ adding outside software whenever possible for this install... so my HAL issue of DVDs not popping up/mounting is going to wait till Kubuntu fixes it, and I was kinda thinking the FAT issue would wait also...
[07:38] <ernie> joe2370: for sure. I removed LVM2 from my setup and just kept it raided. But I've mixed Raid1 and Raid0. So I wont know how the Raid1 partitions will hold up if a drive goes down.
[07:39] <main2> eljefe, www.kernel.org.. my home.. im going to compile one right now
[07:39] <eljefe> i really should look into how compiling a kernel is done... I've been a linux fan for 4 years now and its my profession... and I've never once compiled a kernel
[07:40] <TFrog> anyone here play pysol?
[07:40] <main2> eljefe, thats really a shame
[07:40] <main2> why dont you compile along with me
[07:40] <eljefe> main2: tell me about it!
[07:41] <main2> here, grab this one http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[07:41] <main2> come to #letscompilesomekernels
[07:41] <eljefe> main2: let do it!  except for i am on hold on the phone; if the other side picks up i gotta put the compile on hold
[07:41] <main2> and i tell you what to do =)
[07:41] <eljefe> sweey!
[07:41] <main2> ok, no problem
[07:41] <main2> i have to do the steps anyway
[07:41] <main2> if i have to type the few commands (once in a VT and once in my irc client) no problem at all
[07:42] <eljefe> cool, i am in the channel
[07:42] <ernie> Anyone running 7.04 running a nvidia dual monitor setup? I did have it running, but on reboot one time, it got toasted and I was greeted by the ole flashing cursor...
[07:43] <ernie> I'm running "One Eye" closed at the moment
[07:43] <raxiv> Hey, I'd like to help Kubuntu.. I'm 18 years old, I'm good with web-graphics, and I've been using Linux as a desktop OS for like 2 years. Can someone show me the way? ; ) ( please don't flame! thanks )
[07:44] <fdoving> raxiv: joining #kubuntu-devel is a good start.
[07:44] <raxiv> thank You fdoving!
[07:44] <raxiv> going there right away.
[07:44] <fdoving> raxiv: see you there then :)
[07:44] <raxiv> fdoving: yep!
[07:44] <dthacker> anybody on my K3b libmad issue?
[07:45] <raxiv> dthacker: I'm sorry, I didn't use AudioCD's in years.
[07:46] <ernie> dthacker - I've had the same issue but I've not chased it up yet
[07:46] <stdin> dthacker: trying to burn an audio cd from mp3 files ?
[07:46] <dthacker> ernie: ok, its minor, I'm sure
[07:47] <dthacker> stdin: K3B reports it can't find libmad, even though *i* think it's installed....
[07:48] <stdin> dthacker: to do it you need libk3b2-mp3 installed
[07:49] <dthacker> stdin: got a repository for that?  Adept seems unable to find the -mp3?   (though the libk3b2 shows installed)
[07:49] <ernie> stdin: yep, installing that Lib did the trick
[07:50] <stdin> dthacker: it's in multiverse
[07:50] <stdin> !info libk3b2-mp3
[07:50] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[07:50] <stdin> dthacker: or universe :p
[07:50] <dthacker> trying different search tactic.....
[07:51] <dthacker> lol, you know that "not installed" checkbox can be important....
[07:51] <ernie> dthacker - do a search on k3b in adept manager
[07:52] <ernie> dthacker - that'll do it everytime...
[07:53] <Cnl_Delta> find /boot/grub/menu.lst file not found   <------------what does that mean?
[07:53] <stdin> what's that from?
[07:53] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: are you trying use use grub-gfxboot like i was this morning?
[07:53] <Cnl_Delta> from grub>
[07:54] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: or did you grub break?
[07:54] <kai> Thanx for all your help people
[07:54] <Cnl_Delta> i tried some stuff with gparted, now i cannot log into xp and kubuntu
[07:54] <kai> I gots to dip
[07:54] <Cnl_Delta> ie. resized and moved xp (installed after kubuntu to the end of my HDD
[07:55] <Cnl_Delta> gi can see grub and a windows/kubuntu loadiing after but no log in
[07:55] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: where is your boot partition?
[07:55] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: did you have a separate /boot or not?
[07:55] <stdin> make sure the root is set
[07:55] <Cnl_Delta> i set it to hd(0)
[07:56] <joe2370> There is no acroread package for Feisty?
[07:56] <Cnl_Delta> and it was working fine till the xp resize and move
[07:56] <Ace2016> joe2370: there is you have to install it from the mediubuntu repos
[07:56] <joe2370> Ace2016: oh, ok. thanks
[07:56] <Cnl_Delta> rather (hd0)
[07:56] <stdin> Cnl_Delta: it should be in the form of (hd0,0), that would be the 1st partition of the 1st disk
[07:57] <Ace2016> Cnl_Delta: so what partition is /boot on now?
[07:57] <Cnl_Delta> well hd (0,0) didn't work when i tried to dual boot but (hd0) did
[07:57] <raxiv> if Your first OS is Windows
[07:57] <stdin> joe2370: or just install kpdf
[07:57] <raxiv> and then You installed Kubuntu
[07:57] <raxiv> then Your boot drive is (hd0,0)
[07:57] <raxiv> not hd(0,0) ;)
[07:57] <Cnl_Delta> i just had one partition for kubuntu and one or swap and then had xp on its wown (set up dual boot with (hd0) )
[07:58] <joe2370> stdin: acroread has some features that kpdf doesn't. IIRC.
[07:58] <Cnl_Delta> xp came second and i did get dual boot working
[07:58] <stdin> joe2370: some, yeah, but not that many
[07:58] <joe2370> Ace2016: do you know where I'd find the URL for the mediubuntu repo?
[07:58] <Cnl_Delta> till i decided kubuntu needed more space
[07:58] <Cnl_Delta> and then used gparted to resize xp and move it to the end of the hdd (xp was flagged as active/boot)
[07:59] <Ace2016> joe2370: deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free   << add that to your sources.list
[07:59] <Cnl_Delta> and well after that, xp ran a check disk when i tried to use it and stopped at a xp screen logo screen without logging me in
[07:59] <joe2370> Ace2016: thanks a bunch
[08:00] <Cnl_Delta> tried kubuntu, kubuntu loaded but the screen went blank before the login prompt could appear (i never saw the log in)
[08:00] <Cnl_Delta> strange thing is before the kubuntu loading screen came, it did a file check but finding swap failed
[08:01] <Ace2016> guess that would happen, you've just completely rearranged the partition table
[08:01] <Cnl_Delta> and the partition table is on the MBR..
[08:02] <Cnl_Delta> which i guess ultimate boot cd / super grub disk could fix..
[08:02] <linux_> hola ubuntu en espaol
[08:02] <linux_> ?
[08:02] <fdoving> !es | linux_
[08:02] <linux_> alguien sabes?
[08:02] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:02] <linux_> gracias
[08:06] <ernie> Cnl_Delta: If you are not a gamer, then running something like VMServer and running windows in that works well...
[08:07] <Cnl_Delta> i had vmware on my mind
[08:07] <Cnl_Delta> just thought i'd keep a spare xp till i had vmware running
[08:08] <raxiv> Virtual PC runned my i386 Kubuntu, and its free.
[08:08] <raxiv> just to let You know :p
[08:08] <ernie> Cnl_Delta: yeah thats a good idea. Installing the Free VMServer on 7.04 isn't trivial, but theres a bucket of info out there on what to do
[08:09] <fdoving> there is also 'kvm' which is a modified qemu, and it's free too.
[08:09] <fdoving> i installed winxp in it just fine.
[08:09] <Cnl_Delta> well thats gggreat but right now i need to restore my partition table to log into kubuntu
[08:10] <Cnl_Delta> so if i ever delete xp (which is flagged as active) what stuff do i have do change (mbr/grub)
[08:11] <Cnl_Delta> aparrently just resizing and moving the xp partition and a shared partition caused both xp and kubuntu to stop me from logging in (grub worked fine)
[08:11] <Tm_T> Xikzasil: you might like to reduce clones
[08:12] <ernie> Cnl_Delta: I'm going to have to wish you good luck on that one. Its 4am here and the wifes noticed I'm still up :) Night all
[08:13] <Cnl_Delta> nigh night ernie
[08:13] <dthacker> night ernie.  getyourfeettobed!
[08:15] <joe2370> Ace2016: sorry to bother you, but do you know which components the mediubuntu repo provides?  main? universe?  I opened the URL in a browser but I can't find any clues.
[08:15] <Tm_T> !medibuntu
[08:15] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:15] <Filthpig> Tm_T: A red hat, maybe?
[08:16] <Tm_T> joe2370: look that one
[08:16] <joe2370> Tm_T: thanks
[08:16] <Ace2016> beet me to it :D
[08:17] <Ace2016> *beat
[08:17] <Tm_T> Filthpig: hard to say, but it's silly anyway
[08:17] <dsmith> great article
[08:17] <dsmith> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/05/ubuntu_review.html
[08:22] <Cugel> Does anyone know/have experience with the Ogle DVD player software?
[08:23] <BloodyTux> hey i need help
[08:24] <BloodyTux> can someone help me, i try to install kubuntu and it freezes at 6% when it says please wait
[08:24] <BloodyTux> i'm dual booting it on a 8gig
[08:25] <BloodyTux> hello?
[08:25] <Cugel> Yeah we're here.
[08:25] <Cugel> Can you start in recovery mode?
[08:25] <BloodyTux> ???
[08:25] <BloodyTux> huh?
[08:26] <Cugel> When you boot Linux, what do you do?
[08:26] <BloodyTux> no, i'm using win2000 but i need to install kubuntu with the alternate cd onto a 8gig
[08:27] <BloodyTux> i got a new pc but i wiped my hardrive bc it only came with a 20 gig
[08:27] <Cugel> Are you sure the CD is not faulty?
[08:27] <BloodyTux> ... idk it was fine a week ago
[08:28] <BloodyTux> ugghhhhhh i hate these stupid win2k irc progs.
[08:28] <Filthpig> Ubuntu uses GNOME, a graphic interface that looks so much like Windows that Bill Gates should be, and probably is, angry. For once someone has copied Microsoft instead of the other way around.
[08:28] <Filthpig> from the article dsmith pasted
[08:29] <Filthpig> ...what? Gnome looks like windows? :|
[08:29] <BloodyTux> ??? kde looks like windows more
[08:29] <Filthpig> hahah, yeah
[08:29] <BloodyTux> windows doesn't have 2 toolbars...
[08:29] <BloodyTux> i should know, im using it right now
[08:29] <Filthpig> hehe
[08:30] <Filthpig> if gnome resembles an operating system, it has to be osx
[08:30] <BloodyTux> yea
[08:30] <ubuntu> no Filthpig, i am using kde
[08:30] <ubuntu> :)
[08:30] <BloodyTux> :( my school project is gonna suck if i don't have a working linux pc
[08:31] <BloodyTux> and my cd burner went with my old pc :(
[08:31] <dsmith> i read that was like hmmmm
[08:31] <dsmith> still a great article to print up and show to the office
[08:32] <BloodyTux> yea
[08:32] <BloodyTux> so does anyone have some tips for me?
[08:32] <BloodyTux> DAI HELP ME!
[08:32] <fdoving> sure, what kind of tip do you want?
[08:33] <fdoving> htop is a nice program. if you want that kind of tip.
[08:33] <BloodyTux> i install kubuntu but it gets stuck on 6% at installing and selecting software
[08:33] <BloodyTux> it just says please wait
[08:33] <fdoving> do you have other cds to test with?
[08:34] <fdoving> i think there is a win install .exe somewhere.
[08:34] <BloodyTux> i have a ubuntu cd but i only have 128mb and its not alternate
[08:34] <BloodyTux> i have simply mepis, slax, knoppix, puppy 2.13, dsl
[08:34] <biovore> yeah.. the normal install dosn't work unless you got 256 or better
[08:34] <dsmith> xbuntu
[08:34] <BloodyTux> santa fe
[08:34] <BloodyTux> and gentoo
[08:34] <dsmith> alternate
[08:34] <biovore> you can install mepis and dist-upgrade :-)
[08:34] <biovore> to feisty
[08:35] <BloodyTux> how do you do that?
[08:35] <fdoving> BloodyTux: hmm.. you can make dsl, mepis and knoppix ubuntu if you want.
[08:35] <biovore> mepis is basicly just ubuntu dapper
[08:35] <BloodyTux> will it take hours after hours?
[08:35] <BloodyTux> yea
[08:35] <Cugel> It does take some time.
[08:35] <BloodyTux> i wanted to use knoppix but its only livecd
[08:35] <hauppage> hi
[08:35] <BloodyTux> so i'm gonna try mepis and get back to you guys
[08:35] <hauppage> how do i change root password / enable root account ?
[08:35] <BloodyTux> once i install it
[08:36] <BloodyTux> so ciao
[08:36] <dsmith> mepis is nice
[08:36] <BloodyTux> i used it for a while then switched to kubuntu
[08:36] <fdoving> !rootsudo | hauppage
[08:36] <ubotu> hauppage: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:36] <BloodyTux> ...
[08:36] <BloodyTux> bbl
[08:36] <biovore> but if your box only has 128 MB of ram.. you probably don't want to run a fancy gui like kde or gnome
[08:36] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, which program does one use to extract/edit  the sountrack of an mpg file ?
 i tryed sudo passwd root but it ask for a pass
[08:36] <BloodyTux> i was running kubuntu with 128 on my old box, and that was worse than this...
[08:37] <BloodyTux> processor wise
[08:37] <biovore> sudo -s
[08:37] <hauppage> (login) not change
[08:37] <BloodyTux> so bbl
[08:37] <biovore> input user password
[08:37] <fdoving> hauppage: it first asks for your current password (sudo style), then it ask for the new root password, and you need to confirm that (enter it twice).
[08:37] <fdoving> hauppage: current password is your user password.
[08:39] <sebbar> hi, my parents use kubuntu, the problem is that every once in a while the ethernet modem (a D-Link 300) stops connecting to the internet. any idea why this might be the case?
[08:41] <dthacker> sebbar: no, I would have to examine the logs
[08:41] <mehmet> hi
[08:41] <qsu> anybody overhere thinking how beryl works
[08:41] <mehmet> i use kubuntu 7.04 . i want to run windows migration tool . How?
[08:42] <fdoving> qsu: you might get better results asking in #ubuntu-effects
[08:42] <biovore> sebbar: adsl sometime has connection issues if you phone line has issues..  Could be that the linux box was unable to connect to the central office and get a DHCPD lease
[08:42] <qsu> no i dont have a problem with beryl its running fine overhere
[08:42] <sebbar> biovore: hmm if that's the case what would you suggest doing?
[08:43] <qsu> but i was wondering why beryl is not used in applicaionts so you get 3d effects in an app instead of windows or cube's fdoving
[08:43] <biovore> well if you modem can't talk to the central office, its your phone line.. you have to pester you ISP
[08:43] <Cugel> I turned off translucency effects, since it seemed to invoke multiple crashes.
[08:43] <mehmet> i use kubuntu 7.04 . i want to run windows migration tool . How?
[08:43] <sebbar> biovore: ok I'll do that :)
[08:44] <fdoving> qsu: no clue, i don't like fancy effects, #ubuntu-effects might provide more insight on this topic.
[08:45] <mehmet> i use kubuntu 7.04 . i want to run windows migration tool . How?
[08:46] <hivemind> Anyone know the screenshot shortcut and where it saves the file?
[08:47] <linux_> espaol por favor?
[08:47] <dthacker> linux !es
[08:47] <fdoving> !es | linux_
[08:47] <ubotu> linux_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:47] <dthacker> hivemind: you can use Ksnapshot
[08:47] <dthacker> Ksnapshot
[08:48] <stdin> hivemind: print screen, and (if it doesn't open KSnapshot) then it's saved in the clipboard buffer
[08:48] <hivemind> Thanks
[08:49] <dthacker> hivemind, that opens ksnapshot on my feisty install
[08:49] <oliver> hello
[08:50] <oliver> anybody?!
[08:50] <fdoving> hi oliver.
[08:51] <stdin> we are watching
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> hi, how can i eject a live kubuntu cd so i can burn another cd?
[08:51] <oliver> hello
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> while the live kubuntu is running
[08:51] <oliver> I didn't think you could :S
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> dang
[08:51] <stdin> Cnl_Delta: you can't really do that, it's like ejecting your hard drive
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> i need it to rescue my kubuntu install
[08:51] <oliver> you might be able to
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> the CD isn't being read
[08:52] <Cnl_Delta> i just need to burn ultimate boot cd to rescue a partition table
[08:52] <oliver> burn another cd fom another computer
[08:52] <oliver> oh so you can't
[08:52] <kinp> LjL thanks for removing my ban (i'm ubuntu).
[08:52] <Cnl_Delta> hmm would re-installing kubuntu fix a broken partition table?
[08:52] <oliver> that's what I did
[08:53] <Cnl_Delta> and what happened on your system oliver?
[08:53] <Rade> I'm trying to use the NVidia driver so I can get opengl support but I'm getting this error:
[08:53] <oliver> well let's just say that I'm using it :D
[08:54] <Rade> The NVidia kernel module has versionj 1.0-8762 but the X module has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure the kernel module and all Nvidia components have the same version.
[08:54] <Rade> How do I do that?
[08:54] <Cugel> http://manriki.diggerdogs.com/kubuntu_tee.jpg   -- does anyone have this shirt?
[08:54] <oliver> Rade, sorry I have no experience with this, I'm sure some other people do though if they speak up!
[08:55] <Cnl_Delta> the kubuntu live cd wont allow me to find  /boot/grub/stage1
[08:55] <Cnl_Delta> i get an error 15
[08:55] <oliver> Cugel, I don;t have the t-shirt
[08:55] <oliver> cnl_delta, sounds like a bad copy
[08:55] <eljak> Rade: you enabled nvidia support in kernel? and then you are installing the driver?
[08:55] <Cugel> Just wondering how large '5 x XL' is. That must be _huge_.
[08:55] <Ro0t> Hello
[08:56] <Diable244> can somone help me plz ?
[08:56] <Rade> I followed the instructions at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[08:56] <oliver> Cugel, that would probably be bout 5 times bigger than XL ;)
[08:56] <snake> hi all
[08:56] <oliver> hi
[08:56] <Cugel> Americans are big people.
[08:56] <oliver> !question | Diable244
[08:56] <snake> what can i use to register my screen in a video file
[08:56] <ubotu> Diable244: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:57] <Diable244> Oki, ty
[08:57] <snake> i want a screen capture program but with video
[08:57] <Rade> snake - try searching sourceforge.net
[08:57] <oliver> sorry snake I can;t know
[08:57] <Cnl_Delta> oliver, the partition table on my hdd is busted so the live cd cannot find my current kubuntu instal
[08:57] <oliver> don't*
[08:57] <Diable244> in windows IRC to tell ur current nickname just tape $me
[08:57] <snake> ok thank you
[08:57] <Cnl_Delta> grub appears to work and finds the right os
[08:58] <Cnl_Delta> but the partition table is broken in a way
[08:58] <Diable244> but in Konversation i mean that $ is % but it's doesn't work with %me..
[08:58] <eljak> snake: i remember something called camtasia or camstasia studio
[08:58] <oliver> Delta, I don't know though
[08:58] <Diable244> like to Whois in mIRC, u tape //w $me
[08:58] <Rade> is it possible to use apt-get to install a particular version of a package?
[08:59] <oliver> Rade, can't you typing in sudo apt-get <package including version number>
[09:00] <snake> eljak: thank you
[09:01] <fdoving> Rade: yes you can, almost like oliver says, 'apt-get install packagename=version'
[09:01] <eljak> snake: welcome
[09:01] <fdoving> Rade: you can find the available versions with 'apt-cache policy packagename'
[09:02] <PolitikerNEU> does anybody accidentally know how I can run Metisse under Kubuntu (feisty fawn)?
[09:02] <Diable244> eljak> can i pm u plz ?
[09:03] <eljak> Diable244: yes
[09:03] <Diable244> ty
[09:03] <oliver> Quick question, I have been wondering why my WiFi chip goes into standby even when I'm using it and can I stop it doin it?
[09:04] <Diable244> Sorry Eljak i'm not registred, so can't pm..
[09:04] <Diable244> Eljak >  in windows IRC (mIRC) to tell ur current nickname just tape $me, exemple to whois ur self tape //w $me
[09:04] <Diable244> Eljak > but here $ is replaced by % i think, but when i have done /w %me it's doesn't work..
[09:04] <Alarm> hello , does someone know where the nvidia conf file is
[09:04] <Alarm> on a webpage its mentioned to edit this file: /etc/modules.d/nvidia , but there is no modules.d dir on my system
[09:05] <eljak> Diable244: /me doesnt do what you want?
[09:05] <Cnl_Delta> how do i mount an iso with the kubuntu livecd?
[09:06] <Diable244> Eljak > to whois ur self on mIRC tape ://w $me
[09:06] <Diable244> Eljak > on Konversation i'm searching whith what i replace *me*
[09:06] <eljak> Diable244: check irchelp.org
[09:08] <SRed13> Hello room
[09:08] <Diable244> ty Eljak
[09:08] <SRed13> Any linux pro's in here?
[09:12] <eljak> Diable244: i dont think you can count on finding it coz i tried /help whois with konversation and it lists the commands so i dont think it implements everything
[09:12] <Diable244> Ok ty (
[09:15] <Diable244> ick
[09:16] <draco1889> hello
[09:17] <draco1889> anyone here?
[09:17] <vbgunz> I have gvim installed. I cannot uninstall it automatically with dpkg or apt-get. how do I manually and successfully completely remove it?
[09:18] <Taladan> apt-get remove gvim spits errors?
[09:19] <Taladan> (sudo, I should say)
[09:19] <draco1889> um
[09:19] <draco1889> i have this USB headset that I want to enable
[09:20] <draco1889> but I have no idea where to do that
[09:20] <draco1889> it is detected, according to lsusb
[09:20] <Taladan> draco1889: check alsamixer
[09:20] <PolitikerNEU> I've got a problem with KDE 4 alpha crashing: I cannot login and running kdesktop kwin ... seperately gives me a segmentation fault. What can I do (I use 7.04 on x86_64)
[09:20] <Taladan> assuming you're using alsa
[09:21] <draco1889> Taladan: alsamixer shows the settings for my onboard card
[09:21] <don_> i can get the nvidia drivers to work in 7.04
[09:21] <draco1889> don_: try installing nvidia-glx-new
[09:21] <Taladan> draco1889: *nods* You may have to change which 'card' (read: device) it's using.
[09:22] <Taladan> alsa -c <whatever>
[09:22] <draco1889> ah
[09:22] <Taladan> Also
[09:22] <draco1889> ok, then how do i configure it so that all sounds go to that device
[09:22] <don_> draco1889: i restart x it works but when i restart the computer it just gives me black sreen with a blinking thing at the top of screen
[09:22] <Taladan> If you're going to be primarily using that as your default device, then you'll want to use asoundconf
[09:23] <Taladan> just man asoundconf and it'll tell you how to switch your default device
[09:23] <draco1889> can I make it so that it changes it to default everytime i plug it in
[09:23] <draco1889> and switches back to onboard when i unplug it
[09:23] <don_> and i have tride both nvidia-glx and new both give me probem
[09:23] <draco1889> don_: dunno
[09:23] <Taladan> draco1889: maybe with a script, but you'd have to set up a loop to poll the usb devices every so often.
[09:23] <don_> ok thanx for your time
[09:25] <Taladan> or, if the mount comes across successfully in dmesg, you could have a script that watches for that then switches it over I suppose
[09:25] <draco1889> hmm
[09:25] <draco1889> thanks Taladan
[09:25] <draco1889> i'll do that
[09:26] <Taladan> g'luck with it
[09:28] <Jacko2007> I'm going now
[09:30] <khaije1> irc on bb = sweet
[09:30] <daemon_nio> ciao
[09:32] <kai> wasup again...does any on have any experiance with yahoofetch?
[09:35] <blue|palm> Hi, can anybody tell me if there is a 'total copy' equivalent available on Linux? I can't really find anything
[09:37] <don_> anyone here have a xorg.conf file for nvidia that i can look at AGP card plz
[09:37] <eljak> blue|palm: what do you mean by total copy?
[09:37] <fdoving> blue|palm: what is total copy?
[09:38] <don_> anyone have an xorg.conf file for an AGP card that i can take a look at plz
[09:39] <blue|palm> Total copy is an application
[09:39] <fdoving> yeah, but what does it do?
[09:39] <blue|palm> It alllows you to better control the copying and moving of files in windows
[09:40] <blue|palm> It allows pause/resume/fixing/speed limiting etc.
[09:40] <blue|palm> And if an error occurs it just pauses the copying till you fix the error (happens alot on wifi networks)\
[09:41] <blue|palm> Im looking for an alternative for use in linux: gtk or qt based
[09:45] <fdoving> blue|palm: can't say i'm aware of anything like that.
[09:51] <gan|y|med> hi
[09:52] <gan|y|med> seems like a dumb question, but have updates started for feisty?
[09:52] <stdin> gan|y|med: there have been about 3 (afaik)
[09:52] <Taladan> I haven't seen any yet, but I only upgraded last week.
[09:54] <gan|y|med> thx. i got all the reps in my sources.list apparently, but had only about 3 as well. just wondering
[09:54] <gan|y|med> updates
[09:58] <Alonea> umm, for some reason the external hdd I have plugged in is no longer showing up under /media. I have tried unplugging it and plugging it back in with no luck. When I plug in the usb, the light on the drive pops on like its supposed, but nothing on this end.
[09:59] <stdin> Alonea: look at media:/ (ie, not /media)
[10:01] <Alonea> stdin: ok, thanks. its there. Why isn't it showing up in /media though like it was a few minutes ago?
[10:02] <stdin> no clue, media:/ sometimes shows things that aren't in /media tho
[10:03] <Alonea> stdin: damn....now I have to completely start over again on vmware...it was set to /media for the drive.
[10:03] <eljefe> Alonea: why can't you just point it somewhere else, or remount the drive in /media ?
[10:03] <stdin> Alonea: when it's mounted it will be in /media
[10:04] <stdin> nothing is mounted in media:/, it doesn't really exist
[10:04] <eljefe> stdin: really?  cool
[10:04] <eljefe> oh yeah, media:/
[10:04] <eljefe> i thought you meant /media
[10:05] <stdin> no :p, /media does exist
[10:05] <marseillai> hi
[10:05] <marseillai> i'm looking for help
[10:05] <stdin> ask away
[10:05] <marseillai> i'm french and i have a "complex" question
[10:05] <Alonea> stdin: umm...well, if it knocks off at an inopportune moment, that would be bad...so maybe I should use the media:/
[10:05] <Taladan> media:/ is a...protocol...for lack of a better term...like ftp:/ or http://
[10:06] <stdin> Taladan: kioslave :)
[10:06] <stdin> Alonea: only KDE applications will be able to see media:/
[10:06] <marseillai> so my problem is that during packaging i think i've make a mistake and now when i launch any apps using klauncher (alt+f2) it is launch in a konsole
[10:06] <Alonea> stdin: oh, ok.
[10:07] <Taladan> stdin: :nodnods
[10:07] <Alonea> stdin: ok...it just magically showed up in /media again. *big sigh*
[10:08] <stdin> marseillai: make sure the "Run in terminal window" option isn't checked (under the options button)
[10:08] <stdin> Alonea: it will when it's mounted
[10:09] <marseillai> stdin: it is .... :| don't know what have been change in my configuration. It is check for every application i've alreagy launch in klauncher
[10:10] <marseillai> thanks stdin i'm so stupid i know the answer to this question but didn't think about it
[10:10] <marseillai> i'll try to remove klauncherrc or the name his configuration file has
[10:11] <facugaich> Hi, what C/C++ IDE do you reccomend? I used to use Anjuta but it says its for GNOME
[10:11] <jrick> kdevelop
[10:11] <stdin> facugaich: try kdevelop
[10:11] <eljak> facugaich: did you try kdevelop? or netbeans C/C++ package or eclipse?
[10:12] <marseillai> could someone past his ~/.kde/share/config/klaunchrc for me ?
[10:14] <eljefe> main2: it wouldn't boot :(
[10:14] <fdoving> marseillai: i think you're looking for the [MiniCli]  section in kdesktoprc
[10:14] <fdoving> klauncher isn't what one would think.
[10:16] <marseillai> fdoving: thanks seems to be exactly what i was looking for! :)
[10:18] <marseillai> fdoving: and could you tell me a way to "apply" changes in kdestoprc without restarting kde ?
[10:18] <os2mac> anyone know anything about syncing a mobile phone to kontact?
[10:20] <marseillai> os2mac: kmobilephone or synce-kde and raki if it's a smartphone
[10:21] <luca> good day everyone
[10:21] <luca> someone knows how to remove a bug in kopete which makes lines very spaced when talking to someone using the jabber protocol?
[10:23] <biovore> lines very spaced?
[10:23] <fdoving> marseillai: dcop kdesktop MainApplication-Interface reparseConfiguration
[10:23] <biovore> you mean you get a new line for every space received?
[10:24] <os2mac> marseillai: it's a razr
[10:26] <killermach_> anyone have  a Maxtor OneTouch external drive?  I'm helping someone who just replaced a winbox with a linux box, but they would still like to have the easy "push button" backup
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> killermach_: i think the "push button" backup requires windows software...
[10:28] <luca> biovore yes
[10:28] <luca> sorry was installing pidgin :)
[10:28] <biovore> ^ thats what I use :-)
[10:28] <eljefe> main2: i am back
[10:29] <luca> yeah but I'd like to see that bug purged
[10:29] <frojnd> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  6 00:24:07 2007
[10:29] <frojnd> can someon tell me the solution better tha wait untill tomorrow?
[10:29] <luca> as I think that kopete is waaay better than gaim - still have to see pidgin.
[10:29] <khaije1> Is there a kde equivalent of democracyplayer?
[10:30] <killermach_> Daisuke_Ido: I figure that too.. I am hoping to find a USB udev/hal script that runs on insertion or so
[10:33] <lerneaen_hydra> is there any way to bind keys to functions like play/pause, next track, previous track and so on? there didn't seem to be an option for that in kcontrol
[10:33] <biovore> there is..
[10:34] <Taladan> yes
[10:34] <biovore> On some keyboard the multimedia keys are bound to amarok
[10:34] <Taladan> under system settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard shortcuts
[10:49] <lerneaen_hydra> Taladan: I can't seem to find audio-related bindings there
[10:50] <don> how do I install flash player I download it how can I install it 6.06 kubuntu?
[10:50] <Taladan> lerneaen_hydra: you're going to likely have to do it for the particular application that you're wanting to use.
[10:51] <fiznut> Wow Kubuntu is so much nicer than Ubuntu.. Nicest KDE implementation i've seen I think
[10:51] <lerneaen_hydra> Taladan: oh, so you can define functions manually? key foo performs action bar?
[10:52] <skyion> fiznut >> agreed its brilliant
[10:53] <fiznut> Yah :D And Adept Manager seems more efficient than Synaptic was
[10:53] <skyion> now if only they could get the multiverse graphics drivers easier to load.
[10:53] <skyion> adept sometimes flunks out.
[10:53] <vito>  hey alguien aqui ha trabajado con LYX?!?!?!?!
[10:53] <Taladan> lerneaen_hydra: I think so, haven't shortcutted a bunch of stuff because I use amarok and know its shortcuts already
[10:53] <fiznut> Yeah i've noticed it do it a couple times, but reloading X fixes it
[10:54] <lerneaen_hydra> Taladan: oh, ok
[10:54] <acidBURN> is there a link for setup ati drivers, in kubuntu ???
[10:54] <lerneaen_hydra> I guess I'll make do with just binding it to amarok
[10:54] <fiznut> skyion: I'm having trouble getting drivers to work properly too. Are you trying to make Beryl functional?
[10:55] <skyion> no...
[10:55] <fiznut> ah okay
[10:55] <skyion> still running the beta
[10:55] <fiznut> cool deal
[10:55] <skyion> gonna finish downloading official 7.04 release
[10:55] <fiznut> I'm running on fglrx I believe, just not sure which
[10:55] <skyion> i dunno if easyubuntu would help
[10:55] <fiznut> Awesome. I'm really enjoying 7.0.4 so far
[10:56] <skyion> its made great leaps since 6.10
[10:56] <fiznut> Never had 6.10. What are some of the changes?
[10:57] <skyion> wifi support off the bat
[10:57] <skyion> better support for notebooks
[10:57] <fiznut> Oh good deal. It detected and configured my card perfectly
[10:58] <skyion> hmmm... somethings up with the networks
[10:59] <acidBURN> need some info, on completely setting up the ati drivers, for xorg..
[11:01] <nicudotro> does anybody know how to make amarok use arts
[11:01] <nicudotro> ?
[11:02] <mehmet> hi
[11:02] <eljefe> main2: back, missing modules
[11:02] <mehmet> know i instralled Kubuntu 7.04 dvd
[11:02] <mehmet> i wanna run windows migration assist
[11:02] <mehmet> how
[11:02] <mehmet> ?
[11:02] <dbist> when you install 7.04 it will run by itself
[11:02] <dbist> right after you pick partitions
[11:03] <eljefe> mehmet: i think its done before/during the install, if you choose "Let Kubuntu repartiotn my drive"  but i am really not sure...
[11:03] <mehmet> hm
[11:03] <_StefanS_> mehmet: unless you had vista before
[11:03] <mehmet> i choosed manual
[11:03] <dbist> during the install, correct
[11:03] <eljefe> mehmet: the one install i've done on a dualboot, i chose my own partitions and the win migration assistant was never even mentioned
[11:03] <mehmet> i have xp pro
[11:03] <mehmet> ok
[11:03] <_StefanS_> mehmet: should work automatically
[11:04] <mehmet> ok it is not problem
[11:04] <dbist> yes, migration I believe only works if you let it pick partitions automatically
[11:04] <mehmet> but i see my ntfs partition but i can not write on them
[11:04] <mehmet> i installed ntfs-config and 3g
[11:04] <dbist> that's admin rights i believe
[11:04] <mehmet> but there are problems :(
[11:05] <dbist> migration assistant is only for your wallpaper and bookmarks
[11:05] <dbist> it has nothing to do with viewing windows partition
[11:05] <easytiger> !compiz
[11:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:05] <brill> there was a good guide out there i used to see my Sata
[11:05] <brill> lemme see if i can find the web address
[11:05] <mehmet> dbist: http://rafb.net/p/pp8j7D96.html
[11:06] <brill> sata was ntfs
[11:06] <mehmet> _StefanS_: http://rafb.net/p/pp8j7D96.html
[11:06] <dbist> you need samba
[11:06] <dbist> go to remote places
[11:06] <dbist> pick samba
[11:07] <brill> www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[11:07] <_StefanS_> mehmet: you need to run a repair on that windows volume. Either use the linux ntfsfix, or boot your winxp cd in console mode and do an chkdsk from there
[11:07] <mehmet> dbist: apt-get install samba ok installed
[11:08] <dbist> go to remote places
[11:08] <mehmet> _StefanS_: ok ntfsfix how?
[11:09] <mehmet> dbist:  ok there is samba shares but i can not :(
[11:09] <brill> i had to edit fstab
[11:09] <brill> to get my sata to be read/writeable
[11:09] <brill> kubuntu didn't pick it up out of box
[11:09] <dbist> if you want to write to it, it has something to do with admin rigths
[11:09] <brill> which was fine
[11:09] <mehmet> brill:  i tihnk you are right
[11:09] <suban> hi all!
[11:09] <_StefanS_> brill: well, dont you still need to do a chkdsk before that ?
[11:09] <suban> guys i am running kubuntu
[11:09] <brill> my sata was ntfs formatted
[11:10] <suban> can anyone help me install quake
[11:10] <suban> ?
[11:10] <_StefanS_> suban: sudo apt-get install quake2
[11:10] <suban> i did that
[11:10] <suban> and sudo aptitude install quake2-data as well
[11:10] <_StefanS_> suban: well you need the original data files as well
[11:10] <suban> where do i get them?
[11:11] <_StefanS_> suban: well dont you own the game ?
[11:11] <mehmet> brill:  how can fstab?
[11:11] <suban> Nope !
[11:11] <suban> Whew
[11:11] <suban> means i need to buy the game first huh?
[11:11] <_StefanS_> suban: well, that is sort of required I think.
[11:11] <suban> Well im sure the data files would be easily available on the net right?
[11:12] <pascal80> What does the command "lsb_release -si" return on a Kubuntu system?
[11:12] <_StefanS_> suban: probably ;)
[11:12] <suban> he he
[11:12] <suban> thanks Stefan
[11:12] <suban> !!
[11:12] <_StefanS_> np
[11:12] <StooJ> I know the source code was released by ID, not sure how that affects the legality of a linux version
[11:13] <_StefanS_> suban: try tremulous ..
[11:13] <pascal80> I'm running gnome and would like to know if lsb_release shows the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[11:13] <suban> tremulous?
[11:13] <brill> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[11:13] <_StefanS_> suban: its a opensource fps
[11:13] <_StefanS_> suban: there's another one too, just cant remember the name
[11:13] <brill> mehmet: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[11:14] <Yorokobi> pascal80, it says 'Ubuntu'
[11:14] <suban> i am onto tremulous
[11:14] <brill> except apply to your drive
[11:14] <suban> 104 mb of archives
[11:14] <biovore> www.linux-gamers.net
[11:14] <suban> will take almost an hour :(
[11:14] <pascal80> Yorokobi, thanks
[11:14] <pascal80> Yorokobi, does "lsb_release" -a return anything that indicates you are running KDE
[11:15] <Yorokobi> Nope
[11:15] <StooJ> I'm not sure - have I found a bug in the display settings security? When I go into Display settings & click administrator mode I can type in any old password and it lets me into admin mode.
[11:15] <_StefanS_> pascal80: nope
[11:15] <StooJ> As in "Monitor & Display"
[11:15] <frojnd> hello guys... I have this huge problem. I have XP on computer and than I was into installing kubuntu feisty. So I put cd in and boot from it but somehow there was some trouble with cd, so I ctrl + alt+ del and quit the loading part (I did't come into KDE desktop yet) and after that I just insert another cd also with kubuntu on it and installed kubuntu. But somewhow at the beginning there isn't any XP in the grub list. How can I
[11:15] <frojnd> choose to come into XP ??
[11:15] <suban> hey stefan w r u?
[11:15] <Ahmuck> will kubuntu allow you to specify where things get installed.  for example, if i wanted apache2, php5, mysql5 in /usr/local rather than the system directory, is there a way to tell adept to install it there?
[11:16] <pascal80> Yorokobi, I meant "lsb_release -a"
[11:16] <Yorokobi> frojnd, you probably need a XP boot CD/floppy that will let you run fdisk /mbr
[11:16] <StooJ> frojnd: did you manually partition your hard drive?
[11:16] <Yorokobi> pascal80, and I meant: nope
[11:16] <frojnd> StooJ: yes, and just set as mount point xp partition
[11:16] <StooJ> hehe - just checking ;)
[11:16] <frojnd> Yorokobi: don't get it
[11:16] <_StefanS_> suban: http://sauerbraten.org/
[11:17] <_StefanS_> suban: is nice too
[11:17] <snake> can anyone give me the beryl svn repositories for feisty because i want to have the xvidcap plugin that only beryl svn has
[11:17] <Yorokobi> frojnd, did you install Kubuntu?
[11:17] <frojnd> Yorokobi: yes ...
[11:17] <frojnd> i am on kubuntu
[11:17] <Yorokobi> frojnd, do you want to dual-boot?
[11:17] <frojnd> just can't see xp in the grub list..
[11:17] <frojnd> Yorokobi: yes
[11:17] <Yorokobi> !fixgrub | frojnd
[11:17] <ubotu> frojnd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:17] <Ahmuck> frojnd: did you manually partition your drive ?
[11:18] <frojnd> Ahmuck: YEP
[11:18] <Ahmuck> did you set your xp partition as /
[11:18] <suban> cool
[11:18] <suban> !!
[11:19] <StooJ> Anyone any thoughts on the Monitor & Display password thing?
[11:19] <frojnd> BUT u must know that XP was installed before KUBUNTU
[11:19] <macrozzy> hallo brauch ma german help
[11:19] <Lynoure> !de | macrozzy
[11:19] <ubotu> macrozzy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:19] <Ahmuck> but if you manually partition and then set xp partition as / (root) i suspect you overwrote it
[11:19] <macrozzy> thanks
[11:21] <Ahmuck> but it's hard to tell what you did.  i partition my disk as 1. win32 - windowsxp, 2. /home, 3. /storage & 4. /swap
[11:21] <Ahmuck> and made sure that i was not re-formating my w32 partition
[11:23] <gan|y|med> hi
[11:23] <gan|y|med> how can i get the original feisty look back (kde theme)???
[11:25] <gan|y|med> i screwed up my kde design, reinstalling kubuntu-desktop didn't help...
[11:25] <eljefe> main2: still, no...
[11:26] <Yorokobi> gan|y|med, an effective--if not overblown--way to do it is to 'rm -rf ~/.kde'  You'll lose _all_ the customizations you've made.
[11:26] <frojnd> how can I start beryl: what packages do I have to install??'
[11:27] <onlineapps> frojnd: type sudo aptitude install beryl in konsole
[11:27] <Yorokobi> frojnd, read the install wiki on beryl-project.org
[11:28] <gan|y|med> Yorokobi: that's like throwing a nuke on iraq to get rid of the problem
[11:28] <Yorokobi> gan|y|med, I said it was a bit overblown.
[11:28] <zorglu_> suban: you got your azureus issue fixed ?
[11:28] <gan|y|med> thx anyway
[11:29] <mehmet> hi
[11:29] <suban> nope
[11:30] <suban> azureus is too slow
[11:30] <suban> @zorglu
[11:30] <zorglu_> suban: ok do 'java -version' and tell me what you see
[11:30] <suban> @zorglu: id like to tweak it so that it runs faster
[11:30] <mehmet> i have kubuntu 7.04 . now i installed beryl. but it is not runnig.. glxinfo | grep direct  = render no :(  i think i have to install ati driver???
[11:30] <zorglu_> !tab | suban
[11:30] <suban> 1.6.9
[11:30] <ubotu> suban: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:31] <zorglu_> !info java
[11:31] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:31] <zorglu_> suban: ok paste the first line
[11:31] <dbist> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/314124_dellfolo03.html
[11:31] <suban> zorglu_: 1.6.0
[11:31] <zorglu_> suban: ok paste the first line
[11:31] <suban> zorglu_: java version "1.6.0"
[11:31] <gan|y|med> ahh, my messed up design looks so much like crap. isn't there any easy way to restore the kubuntu look?
[11:31] <zorglu_> suban: it will be fixed rapidely, but you must work with me :)
[11:31] <suban> zorglu_: ok!!
[11:32] <zorglu_> suban: ok what is your cpu and memory ?
[11:32] <onlineapps> mehmet: do you have the ati driver?
[11:32] <suban> core 2 duo. 2G, 1Gig Ram
[11:32] <user_> Hey all
[11:32] <zorglu_> suban: ok i dont get it, it should be very fast
[11:32] <mehmet> onlineapps:  no :(  how can i install?
[11:32] <user_> i need help in installing EW-7318 WIFI USB
[11:32] <zorglu_> suban: why do you think it is slow. what is too slow ?
[11:32] <user_> who can help please?
[11:32] <suban> it gives me about 30k download speed
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: oh you mean the network speed is too slow ?
[11:33] <suban> i read on the net that people get almost 100 k
[11:33] <suban> yeah
[11:33] <user_> i am new in unix
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: not the cpu stuff
[11:33] <suban> no no
[11:33] <onlineapps> mehmet: theres a good tutorial at http://www.darkartistry.com/content/view/67/41/
[11:33] <suban> i heard
[11:33] <suban> you can configure azureus
[11:33] <suban> through ports and all
[11:33] <suban> so that it becomes real fast
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: ok you got the tcp port open ?
[11:33] <onlineapps> mehmet: it uses the closed source one though, but that should be ok (I use it myself, and it works fine wiht beryl)
[11:33] <zorglu_> suban: ah ok, so you are done ?
[11:34] <suban> tcp port open?
[11:34] <suban> how?
[11:34] <zorglu_> suban: yep, there are some face, with various color
[11:34] <suban> zorglu_: Argggh, Azuerus is crashing on me!!
[11:34] <zorglu_> suban: you are behind asdl at home ?
[11:34] <suban> zorglu_: yes
[11:34] <user_> ?
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: ok so your problem is completly unrelated to ubuntu in itself
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: the download speed problem i mean
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: you need to
[11:35] <suban> zorglu_: Yes :(
[11:35] <suban> zorglu_: It seems unrelated
[11:35] <zorglu_> suban: you need to 'open the tcp port' which involved the config of the asdl modem and the azureus config
[11:36] <zorglu_> suban: on that #azureus-support will be top for you :)
[11:36] <suban> Great !!
[11:36] <zorglu_> suban: they got page explaining exactly how to do that :)
[11:36] <suban> zorglu_: Thanks a ton!!
[11:36] <zorglu_> suban: my pleasure :)
[11:37] <suban> zorglu_: :)
[11:41] <TeleSkier> on a standard kubuntu 7.04 installation, is the kernel set as preemptible or not ?
[11:41] <ian_> hello!
[11:43] <TeleSkier> need to know it as NDISwrapper documentation says a certain wifi card works only if preemption is enabled
[11:44] <omeir> who can help please?
[11:44] <omeir> Wifi configuration in ubuntu
[11:44] <jrick> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:45] <omeir> ubuntu
[11:45] <jrick> don't know
[11:45] <jrick> I use KDE
[11:45] <TeleSkier> omeir, the rule here is to put your question and wait... (and pray....)
[11:46] <Dragnslcr> You might have better luck in #ubuntu, since they're more likely to have people familiar with Gnome
[11:46] <os2mac> has anyone used Kandy before?
[11:46] <ubuntu> i would like to mount kubuntu iso for fiesty from the hard drive, from a live cd before the live cd completes boot.  in other words, boot to live cd, mount fiesty.iso and pass booting to the mounted iso
[11:46] <lobster> teleSkier: what kernel are you running?
[11:46] <TeleSkier> 386 generic
[11:46] <kalorin`> ok, if I plug in an ipod where would I look for it to be mounted?
[11:47] <TeleSkier> lobster: the one which is provided  with the kubuntu desktop cd
[11:47] <Ahmuck> i would like to boot from a live cd, mount the fiesty.iso while booting and pass the booting process to the *.iso on the hard drive to complete, is this possible?
[11:47] <Ahmuck> this would free up my cdrom drive
[11:49] <scrubb2000> Anybody home?
[11:49] <hdxx> sure
[11:49] <scrubb2000> Ah ha
[11:49] <scrubb2000> X died when I enabled the nvidia driver...
[11:50] <hdxx> did you install nvidia-glx-new
[11:50] <lobster> teleSkier: try this:  cat /boot/config*|grep PREEMPT
[11:51] <scrubb2000> I installed it through apt
[11:51] <lobster> teleSkier: try this:  should be on by default, but the comment lines say it is off (ignore them)
[11:51] <scrubb2000> All the description said was "enable it with sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable"
[11:51] <scrubb2000> So that's what I did...then restared X with ctrl-alt-bksp
[11:52] <TeleSkier> ok lobster, thanks  will go to see and let you know
[11:52] <hdxx> scrubb2000: did you change in xorg.conf driver to "nvidia"
[11:52] <scrubb2000> And all that came back was a blinking cursor.
[11:53] <scrubb2000> hdxx, I was under the impression that nvidia-glx-config did that because it echoed a message that it had made a backup of xorg.conf
[11:53] <lobster> can anyone answer some questions re: kde display manager and setting default refresh rates in xorg?
[11:53] <scrubb2000> So I presume it made all the necessary changes, but I could be wrong.
[11:53] <hdxx> scrubb2000: i had that problem too.. and when you reboot computer chose in grub ubuntu recovery mode ...and you will log in X .. then restart computer again, and start normaly ubuntu
[11:53] <hdxx> try that
[11:53] <hdxx> helped to me
[11:54] <scrubb2000> hdxx, what does "and you will log in X" mean?
[11:54] <hdxx> scrubb2000: log in to KDE
[11:54] <TeleSkier> lobster: I have CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y and CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y      It means preempt is enabled I guess.  Please confirm if you can
[11:54] <lobster> I can help others while waiting for help for me, so feel free to ask...
[11:55] <scrubb2000> hdxx, what's the command for that? (sorry for my n00bness)
[11:55] <lobster> teleSkier: it is enabled.  go ahead with your ndiswrapper install
[11:55] <mehmet> i have kubuntu 7.04. and now i have installed my ati drivers. but beryl is not working :(
[11:55] <lobster> teleSkier: let me know if you need futher assistance
[11:55] <TeleSkier> thanks lobster and good luck with the help you need!
[11:56] <hdxx> scrubb2000: when you chose ubuntu recovery mode .. ubuntu will boot on your deskop.. then just reboot computer again, and don't start recovery mode.. start ubuntu normaly
[11:56] <scrubb2000> Oh ok.
[11:56] <lobster> mehmet: how is it not working?
[11:56] <frojnd> what is brltty ??
[11:56] <frojnd> or atd
[11:56] <scrubb2000> Before I go try that, though, is there an IRC client I can use from a terminal window?
[11:56] <hdxx> mehmet: ati drivers are bad for linux :S
[11:57] <hdxx> i had a lot problems with it
[11:57] <hdxx> scrubb2000: irssi
[11:57] <mehmet> lobster:  i installed my ati from restricted-manager
[11:57] <hdxx> sudo apt-get install irssi
[11:57] <mehmet> hdxx:  i know but :(
[11:57] <lobster> I have questions about KDE's systemsettings: Monitor & Display if anyoine can help...
[11:57] <lobster> mehmet: what ati card do you have?
[11:57] <scrubb2000> k, I'll be back soon.  Thanks, hdxx
[11:57] <hdxx> mehmet: just go buy nvidia i did that too, and i don't have problems
[11:58] <hdxx> scrubb2000: you're welcoem
[11:58] <lobster> mehmet & hdxx: I agree, but no sense in avoiding a good challenge
[11:59] <mehmet> lobster:  x300se
[12:00] <Ahmuck> is ther a way to paps off directories to the live cd from the hard drive.  such as /usr/local?
[12:00] <Ahmuck> will the live cd use the directory structure from the hard drive, or can you tell it to?
[12:00] <hdxx> mehmet: what error do you get when you type in console beryl-manager
[12:01] <mehmet> hdxx:  there is no error text :(
[12:01] <fiznut> Anyone know if it's possible to install the Suse kicker menu on Kubuntu?
[12:01] <lobster> mehmet
[12:02] <lobster> mehmet: what is output from running fglrxinfo?
[12:02] <frojnd> can someone tell me if I have enabled universe multiverse? here is source.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19347/
[12:02] <hdxx> frojnd: yse
[12:02] <mehmet> lobster:
[12:02] <mehmet> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[12:02] <mehmet> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[12:02] <mehmet> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550/X1050 Series
[12:02] <mehmet> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[12:03] <hdxx> mehmet: glxinfo | grep render
[12:03] <harzi> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and have just installed kubuntu feisty with expert mode of alternate installer to configure raid and a root-account. now, everything seamed to work, but i canot update via grafical adept. the root-pw becomes not accepted. the root-pw works in a shell...
[12:03] <mehmet> hdxx:
[12:03] <mehmet> mehmet@mfk:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[12:03] <mehmet> direct rendering: Yes
[12:03] <mehmet>     GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
[12:03] <mehmet> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550/X1050 Series
[12:04] <biovore> I think the graphical updater uses sudo.. try your user password..
[12:04] <hdxx> harzi: try run in console "sudo adept" without "
[12:04] <harzi> what pw to use? i also tried to change root-pw by #passwd root
[12:04] <mek_> harzi: in gerneal there is no root account enabled
[12:04] <harzi> hdxx: ok, i try
[12:04] <mek_> (password enabled)
[12:04] <harzi> mek_: via expert mode in the installer you become asked to define a root, but you don't have to
[12:05] <mek_> use the first user and the first users password
[12:05] <lobster> mehmet: are you on an upgrade, did beryl work before?
[12:05] <mehmet> lobster:  no
[12:05] <harzi> or is it a bad idea to run ubuntu with a root-account
[12:05] <hdxx> mehmet: can you past your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:06] <scrubb> hdxx, I'm back
[12:06] <mek_> AFAIK the root account itself is existant, but the password is just disabled
[12:06] <scrubb> restarting in recovery then rebooting didn't fix it...
[12:06] <mehmet> hdxx: lobster http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19348/
[12:06] <hdxx> scrubb: delete drivers .. sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[12:06] <harzi> hm, adept, command not found
[12:07] <mek_> IMHO it should be no problem to use a password based root account, but feel free to to recheck that info
[12:07] <scrubb> ok
[12:07] <harzi> seams not to become installed by default then
[12:07] <hdxx> and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:07] <mek_> scrubb: can you do a sudo su - in a shell
[12:07] <scrubb> hdxx, says it wasn't isntalled?
[12:07] <mek_> (with your user password)
[12:08] <hdxx> scrubb: so try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:08] <scrubb> k
[12:08] <scrubb> hdxx, apt says it's already the newest version
[12:08] <mek_> is the first user sudo enabeld when an root account password is generated by the installer? ok, than it seems so
[12:08] <hdxx> mehmet: i couldn't make beryl to work on fglrx drivers
[12:09] <hdxx> scrubb: glxinfo | grep render
[12:09] <mehmet> hdxx:  i know , but i have to work with fglrx beacuse my screen 19" so 1280x1024 :(
[12:09] <scrubb> hdxx, "unable to open display (null)"
[12:09] <mek_> scrubb: but your question was about a general update not about nvidia
[12:09] <kalorin`> so, to upgrade or not to upgrade
[12:09] <kalorin`> that is the question
[12:10] <kalorin`> 6.10 right now
[12:10] <kalorin`> with the ATI commerical drivers
[12:10] <hdxx> mehmet: like i said.. ati sux..
[12:10] <scrubb> mek_, my original question was "X died after I installed the nvidia driver"
[12:10] <Vilavie> dz
[12:10] <biovore> rgr that.. ATI's drivers for linux are horable at best..
[12:10] <kalorin`> ati doesn't suck a lot worse than nvidia
[12:10] <kalorin`> working fine for me
[12:11] <TeleSkier> When I apt_get a package, where is it stored ?
[12:11] <biovore> it dosn't even support xvideo for some cards
[12:11] <kalorin`> the nvidia card in my workstation at work was just about as much of a pain to get going
[12:11] <hdxx> scrubb: can you paste your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:12] <kalorin`> the installers for both nvidia and ati are getting a lot better
[12:12] <kalorin`> but neither supports dual monitors really all that well
[12:12] <scrubb> hdxx, only if there's a terminal based web-browser I can use...
[12:12] <kalorin`> without a fair amount of tinkering, mostly it's the kernel modules that aren't really intuitive to install
[12:12] <kalorin`> ah well cleanin' time
[12:13] <lobster> mehmet: don't you need a Load "glx" in the module section of your xorg file?


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