[12:00] <IamEthos> sometimes it will pop up bugzilla, sometimes not
[12:00] <davidmoore83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:00] <POVaddct> bliss1_: i think so. but don't ask me about Xen :)
[12:00] <arrick> hey is there a site that I can go to to test my system, so i dont need someone helping me to make sure it appears?
[12:01] <arrick> not anonymouse.org
[12:01] <davidmoore83> arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:01] <tobias__> hi
[12:01] <phaidros> how to tell beagle not to run in debug mode?
[12:01] <bliss1_> POVaddct: no I will not thanks for all your help and giving me some learning curve experince--enjoy
[12:02] <arrick> too new for this on davidmoore83
[12:02] <adventchild> dabaR: you get that? or should i give you the link again?
[12:02] <arrick> hey is there a site that I can go to to test my system, so i dont need someone helping me to make sure it appears? dabaR ?
[12:02] <davidmoore83> ANYONE help me with ATI instal got this after install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:02] <BrownMan> Ok new question from the linux n00b -- What is "untaring" a file and if I downloaded a tar file from the internet...say a game...how do I unpack it and get it to work?
[12:02] <dabaR> adventchild: I got it. Just taking a while to fix it up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11484
[12:02] <arrick> my web server dabaR
[12:03] <adventchild> dabaR: ok...  ty
[12:03] <cedric> dia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-settings but 1.0-3ubuntu7 is to be installed
 E: Broken packages
[12:03] <Gurft> anyone have USB devices automouting setup?
[12:03] <cedric> ? thats sounds weird to me
[12:03] <bliss1_> arrick: catch you later man keep cool
[12:03] <dabaR> adventchild: save that, close, and reload your package list in synaptic. then install those packages.
[12:03] <arrick> _jason sees it though I cannot, and I want to access from the internet so i can make sure is how I want the page
[12:03] <adventchild> dabaR: do i add that or replace it?
[12:03] <arrick> bliss1_, youtoo
[12:03] <dabaR> adventchild: replace with that.
[12:03] <frank23> BrownMan: it means decompressing.   tar xvfz filename.tar.gz  or  tar xvfj for filename.tar.bz2
[12:04] <apple132> When somebody is remotely connected to my computer through SSH, how can I get a list of people connected?
[12:04] <Dreamglider> are there no standard drivers that will work with the usb adaptor ?
[12:04] <frank23> BrownMan: what is it you downloaded?
[12:04] <triage> why woun't my sound work, when its enabled and unmuted in Alsa :(
[12:04] <BrownMan> Frank:  Chromium
[12:04] <BrownMan> Frank:  It was in the ubuntu wiki for good games on Linux
[12:04] <davidmoore83> ANYONE help me with ATI instal got this after install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:05] <dabaR> BrownMan: you know the word tar? Well, take all your files, add some tar, and you got one tar ball.
[12:05] <gremid> apple132, "who" for all shell-based connections.
[12:05] <BrownMan> dabar:  haha somehow the windows person can't laugh
[12:05] <BrownMan> dabar:  partly because windows is just that
[12:05] <frank23> BrownMan: you can install chromium with synaptic. it's the standard way to install software in ubuntu. I never tried that game though
[12:05] <__mikem> Does transgaming actually provide ports of windows games
[12:05] <davidmoore83> ANYONE help me with ATI instal got this after install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11483
[12:05] <bliss1_> POVaddct: its bedtime keep cool.
[12:05] <dabaR> davidmoore83: you need to stop repeating.
[12:06] <davidmoore83> dabaR, i will when someone heps
[12:06] <BrownMan> frank:  oh ok ill look in synaptic I guess but it would be nice to know how this whole tar thing worked for the future
[12:06] <frank23> __mikem: no. cedega is a modified wine
[12:06] <dabaR> davidmoore83: you followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[12:06] <__mikem> oh, ok
[12:06] <frank23> BrownMan: it means decompressing.   tar xvfz filename.tar.gz  or  tar xvfj filename.tar.bz2
[12:06] <BrownMan> So where does it go when I do that?
[12:06] <davidmoore83> dabaR, yes hence how i got the output in the link and know there is soething wrong
[12:06] <adventchild> dabaR: the last line wraps around...  should i leave it or add another number?
[12:07] <__mikem> Speaking of wine, I know how to get bejeweled to run on wine with 100% reliability
[12:07] <frank23> BrownMan: in a terminal.
[12:07] <dabaR> adventchild: not sure, try as it is.
[12:07] <eth0-noob> stupid thing.
[12:07] <adventchild> dabaR: ok...  hope the sys doesnt crash lol
[12:07] <bliss1_> nickrud: in the office mant thanks for your help a some days ago
[12:07] <triage> okay this is really wierd but sounds like im being dumb. ubuntu now plays sound through my headset, but won't play it via my laptops built in speakers, any suggestions?
[12:07] <eth0-noob> can someone help me get sudo working on my account?
[12:07] <BrownMan> Frank:  I know I put that command in a terminal but where does the finished package go?
[12:07] <dabaR> adventchild: nothing really bad can come about.
[12:08] <eth0-noob> i put a pass on root...
[12:08] <eth0-noob> sudo just doesnt work
[12:08] <sfar> today will the historical second "01:02:03 04/05/06" occure!
[12:08] <dabaR> eth0-noob: you tried your password?
[12:08] <_jason> eth0-noob: did you do an expert install/
[12:08] <eth0-noob> ?
[12:08] <eth0-noob> what?
[12:08] <eth0-noob> um
[12:08] <haGGis> is there any project mangment software
[12:08] <frank23> BrownMan: for synaptic have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:08] <heero1711> triage ur built in speakers are working?
[12:08] <eth0-noob> i added myself to sudo group in etc/group
[12:08] <BrownMan> Frank:  Ok thanks
[12:08] <eth0-noob> and added all privledges in the users-admin
[12:08] <_jason> eth0-noob: you want the 'admin' group
[12:08] <eth0-noob> and sudo doesnt work
[12:09] <eth0-noob> well i think im in that, but ill check.
[12:09] <arrick> Which site can I go to to verify m y web site is looking like I want it on the internet?
[12:09] <heero1711> i think u need edit
[12:09] <heero1711> the sudoers file
[12:09] <adventchild> dabaR: hm... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11485
[12:09] <heero1711> to be able to gain
[12:09] <heero1711> more level
[12:09] <dabaR> adventchild: post your sources.list to pastebin.
[12:09] <eth0-noob> well
[12:09] <dabaR> heero1711: ya.
[12:10] <eth0-noob> im on dapper drake 6.. im in the lpadmin.. thats the only admin group in the group file
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: and
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: writing in 5 lines one sentence
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: is
[12:10] <_jason> eth0-noob: did you do an expert install?
[12:10] <dabaR> heero1711: fun!
[12:10] <mwe> arrick: what do you mean? localhost:// ?
[12:10] <triage> heero1711 yea i dual boot ubuntu and windows xp, and they work through windows xp
[12:10] <eth0-noob> __jason i didnt
[12:10] <heero1711> :D
[12:10] <adventchild> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11486
[12:10] <_jason> eth0-noob: su to root and paste your /etc/sudoers contents
[12:10] <eth0-noob> i had my home directory partitioned and saved from my older version of ubuntu.
[12:10] <arrick> mwe
[12:10] <heero1711> mmm that is rare triage, maybe could be the output
[12:10] <mwe> arrick: that's me
[12:10] <heero1711> look into alsamixer settings
[12:10] <eth0-noob> kk
[12:10] <heero1711> maybe ur speaker are mute
[12:11] <triage> heero1711: and after further testing, I can hear systems sounds, but nothing through media players on my headest
[12:11] <heero1711> or something like that
[12:11] <j4k> I heard about something being released with Flight 6 that will let you configure 802.1i easily. Is this true?
[12:11] <arrick> mwe, i want to view it from the internet, my update client is know for "breaking" and i want to make sure its up when I need it from the internet
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # /etc/sudoers
[12:11] <eth0-noob> #
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[12:11] <eth0-noob> #
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # Host alias specification
[12:11] <triage> heero1711 i went through and unmuted everything in alsa
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # User alias specification
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # Cmnd alias specification
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # Defaults
[12:11] <frank23> j4k: 802.1i ? is that new?
[12:11] <eth0-noob> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[12:11] <arrick> !pastebin
[12:11] <eth0-noob> # User privilege specification
[12:11] <dabaR> eth0-noob: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:11] <heero1711> use pastebin!
[12:11] <gnomefreak> eth0-noob: please dont paste in here
[12:11] <eth0-noob> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:11] <gonzobrains> is ubuntu secure? like no backdoors and sh!t like that?
[12:11] <_jason> eth0-noob: hrmm, I meant use pastebin
[12:11] <eth0-noob> sorry.
[12:11] <eth0-noob> for spam.
[12:11] <heero1711> triage mm is rare,
[12:11] <eth0-noob> ah sorry lol
[12:12] <arrick> every *()* time
[12:12] <j4k> frank23: sorry, I meant 802.11i
[12:12] <_jason> eth0-noob: ok, one last thing.  What does 'getent group admin' return?
[12:12] <gonzobrains> you know what i'm saying?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: backdoor as in trojans? or backdoors as hackers can get in
[12:12] <gonzobrains> backdoors like yeah, hackers or the people who made it able to bust in on your system
[12:12] <frank23> j4k: I didn't know there was anything beyond g...
[12:12] <narg> is there something other than ulimit you need to do to make a program core dump?
[12:12] <dabaR> adventchild: how about this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487,save that, close gedit(in which you edit), then close synaptic, and run "sudo aptitude update".
[12:12] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: you do knwo that no system is hack proof right?
[12:12] <j4k> frank23: sorry, I used an obscure standard. I meant WPA2
[12:13] <mwe> arrick: I must admit I abselute don't understand what you're trying to say
[12:13] <eth0-noob> getent group admin gives me a new line. nothing.
[12:13] <dabaR> gonzobrains: there are no such things, no.
[12:13] <gonzobrains> yeah, i understand hack proof, but i mean there aren't any blatant backdoors made by the creators
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: no
[12:13] <gonzobrains> k
[12:13] <dabaR> gonzobrains: we would not know anyhow.
[12:13] <gonzobrains> see, i've decided i would like to stop using WinXP and I want to start identifying good utilities to use on ubuntu
[12:13] <_jason> eth0-noob: as root, do the following: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[12:13] <mwe> arrick: what do you mean 'my update client is know for "breaking"' ?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> i trust the devel team they havent let me down yet ;)
[12:13] <gonzobrains> i use firefox on xp now and i will continue to use it on ubuntu, but i'd like to find a good replacement for outlook
[12:13] <eth0-noob> kk hold on
[12:13] <arrick> I want to access the site from outside my network, so I can make sure i can se it
[12:13] <gonzobrains> for email.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: yes
[12:14] <heero1711> Thunderbird
[12:14] <frank23> j4k: oh... I get less dumb by the minute ;)  I'm not sure if dapper will have easy wpa2 configuration. maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <heero1711> :D
[12:14] <dabaR> gonzobrains: we use evolution for that, or thunderbird.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> thunderbird for email ;)
[12:14] <gonzobrains> like if i back up my email in outlook it creates PST files.  i would like to be able to back up and archive my email
[12:14] <mwe> arrick: then use your global ip
[12:14] <j4k> frank23: thanks :D
[12:14] <gonzobrains> i didnt like thunderbird.  i tried to set up a POP account and it wouldn't download my mail.
[12:14] <Dreamglider> damn
[12:14] <gonzobrains> i had 200 msgs i could see through my web client and it wouldn't get them
[12:14] <heero1711> what kind of pop account?
[12:14] <gonzobrains> i heard it was really buggy.  i'd rather use PINE than a buggy thunderbird!
[12:14] <heero1711> Something like gmail?
[12:14] <gonzobrains> umm, regular plain jane pop
[12:14] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: theres like 100 email clients to choose from
[12:14] <heero1711> some times use another port
[12:15] <arrick> I have a dynamic IP address and no-ip.com makes it where you can run a server by supplying a dynamic ip update client to run on your server
[12:15] <heero1711> a secure port
[12:15] <gonzobrains> i tried setting up evolution but after starting it and putting in my name it wouldn't highlight the "forward" button for me to continue the install wizard!
[12:15] <gonzobrains> my pop server is hosted by someone.  i've never had a problem retrieving my email via outlook or outlook express
[12:16] <gonzobrains> i basically want to try using ubunutu, and it i ever have to give up i want to be able to take my archived emails and re-import them back into windows
[12:16] <mwe> arrick: well at any point you can use your present global ip to access it "from the outside"
[12:16] <gonzobrains> i'm not that enthusiastic about windows, but i do have to get along with the rest of the world
[12:16] <gonzobrains> and i hate having to use websites that only work with IE, but it's still a necessity
[12:16] <eth0-noob> hm
[12:16] <arrick> gonzobrains, set your email client so it leaves a copy on the server until your delete it
[12:16] <eth0-noob> brb
[12:17] <gonzobrains> I can't do that forever.  i get too many emails and my provider will get pissed
[12:17] <gonzobrains> ultimately i will set up my own server but i dont want to do that right now until i know what i'm doing
[12:17] <hurax> kmail uses mbox format, mutt and pine too
[12:17] <farous> !broadcom
[12:17] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: Ff has an ie plugin to view ie pages ;)
[12:17] <jossver> hello again :)
[12:17] <hurax> are there windows clients using mbox too?
[12:17] <mwe> gonzobrains: I use IE with wine for my web bank
[12:17] <iceman> is there a way in gnome to change the gnome toolbar where it says applications / places / system .... to a bit more windows style ... start button
[12:17] <gonzobrains> okay , well, as long as there is some sort of standard mail format i can archive to
[12:17] <jane> gonzobrains, i'm not plain :(
[12:17] <gnomefreak> iceman: kde
[12:17] <farous> is ubotu on ?
[12:17] <jossver> I'm having problems with Sun Java and Azureus
[12:17] <gonzobrains> i know about that IE plugin.  i use it on windows but i just discovered today a website that still doesn't cooperate with it!
[12:17] <gonzobrains> hahaha
[12:17] <gnomefreak> farous: no
[12:18] <jossver> In Azureus, I can see images and lines, but not text
[12:18] <lancia> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/barbieOS.htm look at this! Ubuntu has major competiton
[12:18] <farous> that figure than thanx gnomefreak
[12:18] <iceman> never have got themes to work in kde ... so started using gnome
[12:18] <gnomefreak> farous: yw what was it you needed?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> i have wiki open
[12:18] <mlowe> ok, i found a feature, let me descibe so i dont file wrong places
[12:18] <gonzobrains> for the moment i would be happy with a good browser and email.  i'll deal with figuring out a word processor and other shit later
[12:18] <eth0-noob> ok it did not work.
[12:18] <adventchild> dabaR: sweet...  ty....   gotta run for a bit but i will be back...  if you are still here i will let you know if it worked...  ty much
[12:19] <farous> gnomefreak: just checking the factoid on broadcom and ndiswrapper under dapper
[12:19] <gonzobrains> right now i am running ubuntu under VMware.  i'd like to be able to take my ubuntu install around with me on a portable hard drive and just run vmware wherever i am
[12:19] <eth0-noob> i do not have sudo rights.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ok farous let me see if i have that one
[12:19] <adventchild> dabaR: what would be the next step?
[12:19] <serge_> gonzobrains, does the live CD not do mthe same thing?
[12:19] <adventchild> i ran sudo aptitude update and it worked
[12:19] <mlowe> when i run 2 xmms the volume controls are linked together they should not be , i want to be able to change volumes seperatly
[12:19] <gonzobrains> what is live CD?
[12:20] <mwe> eth0-noob: make sure you're in the admin group and that sudoers is configured correctly
[12:20] <gonzobrains> running from a bootable CD?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> farous: heres one
[12:20] <serge_> Ubuntu Live CD
[12:20] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx?action=show&redirect=WiFiBroadcomDriver
[12:20] <serge_> yeah
[12:20] <gonzobrains> umm
[12:20] <_jason> eth0-noob: logout and log back in
[12:20] <TruckerMan> is it possible to query a wireless pcmcia card chipset in windows??
[12:20] <gonzobrains> you can't save stuff to a live CD, right?
[12:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: right :)
[12:20] <farous> thanx gnomefreak checking it out will be back if i had troubles though i dounbt it :)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> gonzobrains: correct
[12:20] <serge_> gonzobrains, right
[12:20] <gonzobrains> yeah, i'm sticking with VMware
[12:20] <gnomefreak> farous: yw
[12:20] <gonzobrains> i can run all sorts of virtual machines with it
[12:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: that was meant for gonzobrains, sorry :)
[12:21] <eth0-noob> ok hold on
[12:21] <gnomefreak> its all good mwe
[12:21] <mlowe> should i file a bug in ubuntu, debain or xmms ?
[12:21] <gonzobrains> right now i have a development platform running WinXP, and I'm testing out ubuntu and puppy in other VMs
[12:21] <TruckerMan> is it possible to query a wireless pcmcia card chipset in windows??
[12:21] <eth0-noob> heh
[12:21] <gonzobrains> it's pretty cool.  you can clone a VM and if you phuck it all up you can restart from a clone
[12:21] <eth0-noob> had to give privledged to acct. brb
[12:21] <TruckerMan> what the hell is a wireless pcmcia card chipset?? in windows??
[12:21] <mwe> TruckerMan: I think so, but I think you need 3rd party tools
[12:21] <gnomefreak> TruckerMan: this isnt windows how would we know :(
[12:22] <serge_> gonzobrains, I always thaught it was easyer to install Windows on a partition on a external harddrive and ubuntu on another partition
[12:22] <serge_> thus only ever needing the portable harddrive
[12:22] <jaye> hi
[12:22] <gonzobrains> my point is that i would be running the VM under other peoples' computers
[12:22] <TruckerMan> gnomefreak, i'm online in win working on ubuntu wireless, think about it
[12:22] <gnomefreak> TruckerMan: you didnt say that but i know now
[12:22] <gonzobrains> i wouldn't take my computer with me, just the little hard drive.  plug it into a USB port and then run the VM player (which is free) and voila!  i have my own personal environment running wherever i am
[12:23] <TruckerMan> didnt think i'd need to
[12:23] <gonzobrains> i could secure the connection so that no one can sniff my sh!t like if i'm in an internet cafe or something
[12:23] <gnomefreak> TruckerMan: alot of people come in here for windows talk :(
[12:23] <gonzobrains> windows talk?
[12:23] <TruckerMan> mwe, do you know how to query chipset in ubu?
[12:23] <armann> hello..
[12:23] <TruckerMan> ubuntu
[12:23] <serge_> gonzobrains, ? then why not just install them both on the same harddrive..
[12:23] <mwe> TruckerMan: lspci -v
[12:23] <armann> why on earth does installing VLC not work?
[12:23] <gonzobrains> the partition thing would be more practical for me on my desktop at home
[12:24] <serge_> makes no sence to even use VMware
[12:24] <gonzobrains> serge:  i dont have the choice of booting to my harddrive from other people's computers
[12:24] <gnomefreak> armann: what doesnt work about it?
[12:24] <TruckerMan> ok, thanks, i'll do the old partition switch fun fun
[12:24] <tristanmike> armann: how is it not installing ?
[12:24] <serge_> yes you do.
[12:24] <armann> not found
[12:24] <eth0-noob> it still isnt working
[12:24] <eth0-noob> idk why
[12:24] <eth0-noob> let me make sure im in the admin group
[12:24] <serge_> gonzobrains, you can boot from USB HDD ne time you want
[12:24] <gnomefreak> armann: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[12:24] <armann> i also checked the server that ubuntu chooses for me, and it looks like a bunch of stuff is missing =/
[12:24] <chanakya> armann: use apt-get install vlc
[12:25] <armann> i think i have them enabled
[12:25] <gonzobrains> serge: i dont know if everyone's computers i use support botting from a USB HDD
[12:25] <gonzobrains> and like, what about internet cafes? do they let you do that?
[12:25] <gonzobrains> booting*
[12:25] <gnomefreak> armann: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[12:25] <serge_> gonzobrains, nearly every computer with a USB port will support it
[12:25] <gonzobrains> do you have to mess with the BIOS?
[12:25] <gonzobrains> like boot settings and stuff?
[12:25] <jane> but whether or not its allowed is questionable
[12:25] <gonzobrains> yes
[12:25] <serge_> gonzobrains, no, but i also doubt they'll let you load up vmware and ubuntu aswell
[12:25] <Hawk|-> hi someone fit in flgrx ?!
[12:26] <Hawk|-> fglrx
[12:26] <eth0-noob> lol i wasnt in admin. brb.
[12:26] <Hawk|-> i mean
[12:26] <gonzobrains> you don't have to upload vmware!!  the player is an executable on the drive and you run it and it accesses a file on your drive that acts like the file system
[12:26] <serge_> gonzobrains, yes, i know that, but are they going to let _you_ do it?
[12:26] <serge_> have you gone and asked?
[12:26] <gonzobrains> serge:  not sure. hahaha
[12:26] <serge_> and you tryed?
[12:26] <serge_> then waht exactly is the problem then lol
[12:27] <serge_> you know exactly what you have to do :)
[12:27] <jane> an executable like that is probably more acceptable than booting from cd/hard drive
[12:27] <gonzobrains> serge:  right now i think they wont prohibit running an executable
[12:27] <eth0-noob> ok it is not working at all
[12:27] <serge_> jane yes, but i've never been able to load ne thing from ext hdd in a cybercafe
[12:27] <_jason> eth0-noob: when I said ``adduser your_normal_username admin'' did you change your_normal_username to your actual normal username :P
[12:27] <eth0-noob> i dont know why
[12:27] <jane> i've never been, so i wouldnt know :)
[12:27] <eth0-noob> lol i did
[12:27] <jane> wifi + laptop is easier
[12:27] <armann> gnomefreak,  http://pastebin.com/641032
[12:27] <gonzobrains> i'm not worried about cyber cafes as much as I am other computers i know would allow running an executable
[12:27] <_jason> eth0-noob: and you have logged out and back in?
[12:27] <serge_> gonzobrains, then looks like your back to squre one
[12:27] <eth0-noob> yes
[12:27] <mwe> _jason: that's not how you do it
[12:28] <eth0-noob> and made sure i was in lpadmin and adm group
[12:28] <PoyBoy> can anyone help me get my zydas usb 802.11b/g card working?
[12:28] <jane> most computer labs and such i've been in usually say no installing software
[12:28] <eth0-noob> nothing doesnt work.
[12:28] <mwe> _jason: , eth0-noob gpasswd -a youruser admin
[12:28] <_jason> mwe: how do you do it?
[12:28] <serge_> gonzobrains, thats okay then, just use whatever you want..
[12:28] <gonzobrains> serge: at the moment i would like to run my instance over my company network, my network at home, my laptop, etc. concurrently while running the native OS
[12:28] <serge_> just if your not using cybercafes
[12:28] <_jason> mwe: wouldn't both work?
[12:28] <jane> if in doubt, ask
[12:28] <serge_> its more efficient to not use VMware
[12:28] <mwe> _jason: no
[12:28] <_jason> mwe: why?
[12:28] <mwe> _jason: adduser doesn't work like that
[12:28] <armann> gnomefreak, you got that?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> armann: ok the very very first line starts with deb cdrom you need to put a #infront of it please and leave it open i will list the ones to take the # away from
[12:29] <_jason> mwe: I've used it in the past like that though
[12:29] <eth0-noob> hmm hold on lemme check
[12:29] <skynet> Hey guys, I'm trying to move a folder from my desktop into USR folder but i dont have permissions, how do i get permission
[12:29] <IdleOne> PoyBoy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:29] <eth0-noob> do i need to log out and back in after adding to a group?
[12:29] <gonzobrains> does anyone have any resources on how to convert from using Windows to ubuntu/linux?
[12:29] <jossver> Okay, Firefox works
[12:29] <mwe> _jason: I think not. usermod might do it though
[12:29] <_jason> eth0-noob: yes
[12:29] <serge_> gonzobrains, lol?
[12:29] <eth0-noob> Woot woot
[12:29] <mwe> _jason: useradd is for adding new users
[12:29] <serge_> what do you mean?
[12:29] <gonzobrains> i mean, i know how to develop on linux but have never really used it for desktop/(l)user apps
[12:29] <eth0-noob> no i dont
[12:29] <gonzobrains> lol?
[12:29] <_jason> mwe: man useradd :)
[12:29] <jossver> okay - [next]
[12:29] <eth0-noob> unless its bad if i dont but it works without logging out.
[12:29] <_jason> erm I meant adduser
[12:29] <PoyBoy> idleone, thanks
[12:29] <_jason> hrmm
[12:29] <gonzobrains> serge: what's so funny?
[12:29] <skynet> Hey guys, I'm trying to move a folder from my desktop into USR folder but i dont have permissions, how do i get permission
[12:30] <gnomefreak> armann: take the # away from all the other lines that start with deb and after the word universe in the lines please add a space and than the word multiverse
[12:30] <gonzobrains> well, like using a linux platform but getting along with windows people
[12:30] <_jason> mwe: are we confusing adduser and useradd?  I mean adduser
[12:30] <eth0-noob> mwe thanks a Lot.
[12:30] <gonzobrains> file compatibility etc
[12:30] <serge_> gonzobrains, I woke up this morning, installed ubuntu and went out, leaving Windows still installed on the same hardrive took me no more then 2hours?
[12:30] <jossver> apt-get can't find java-package in aptitude - I'm somewhere between hoary and breezy - upgrade in progress
[12:30] <gnomefreak> armann: once done save it close it and run apt-get update please
[12:30] <gonzobrains> yeah, but installing and using are two different things
[12:30] <gnomefreak> armann: ill brb going for smoke
[12:30] <mwe> _jason: yeah. man adduser says "add a user or group to the system"
[12:30] <serge_> gonzobrains, what do you want to share between the two OS?
[12:30] <gonzobrains> my ubuntu install only took a few minutes because VMware already had a VM setup with it.
[12:31] <NickGarvey> adduser gives you bunch of prompts and does it all automated
[12:31] <iceman> dang it .... how to change either KDE or GNOME application bar to a complete custom look
[12:31] <gonzobrains> well, i dont want to run into trouble with Internet Explorer compatibility, Word files, MS Access, Excel, and other crap the rest of the word depends on
[12:31] <NickGarvey> useradd just makes the user, no shell, no home dir, no group
[12:31] <IdleOne> gonzobrains, serge_ interesting as it is can you please take the offtopic convo to #ubuntu-offtopic . thanks :)
[12:31] <_jason> mwe: read right above where OPTIONS starts around line 117
[12:31] <gonzobrains> how is it off topic?
[12:31] <armann> gnomefreak, got a bunch of error messages, and then "could not find package" when i tried sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:31] <skynet> Hey guys, I'm trying to move a folder from my desktop into USR folder but i dont have permissions, how do i get permission
[12:31] <serge_> gonzobrains, openoffice as far as I know opens all MS Office documents and the same with Firefox and IE
[12:31] <eth0-noob> well cya later everyone bye now.
[12:31] <jossver> how to install Sun Java? I can't install the java_package package with apt-get because it can't find it.
[12:32] <mwe> _jason: all right. maybe I'm wrong. you win this one then
[12:32] <gonzobrains> serge: is open office already installed or do i have to add it?
[12:32] <_jason> mwe: both right :)
[12:32] <gonzobrains> i was wondering how up-to-date they keep open office with microsoft's latest file formats
[12:32] <serge_> gonzobrains, if you cant see it on the Ubuntu programs list under Office then its not there
[12:32] <IdleOne> jossver, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <tristanmike> jossver: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <gonzobrains> serge: got it thanx
[12:33] <gnomefreak> armann: did you do as i said above?
[12:33] <yeti_> hi... i can install kde on ubuntu and gnome on kubuntu, right?
[12:33] <serge_> gonzobrains, in anycase you could probably just do "sudo apt-get install openoffice"
[12:33] <mwe> _jason: I'm not familiar with adduser anyway. only useradd. confising naming though
[12:33] <jossver> yes, I read that - but it can't find java-package
[12:33] <IdleOne> yeti_, yes
[12:33] <serge_> gonzobrains, well your sorted then :)
[12:33] <skynet> How do I write to the USR Folder?
[12:33] <_jason> mwe: indeed
[12:33] <gonzobrains> "sorted" haha are you british?
[12:33] <tristanmike> jossver: have you enabled the universe/multiverse?
[12:33] <serge_> yup
[12:33] <yeti_> IdleOne: thx
[12:33] <gonzobrains> cool
[12:33] <jossver> tristanmike: not yet, this is a freshly installed system
[12:33] <serge_> :)
[12:33] <gonzobrains> well, i'm gonna give ubuntu a shot.  i really dont like XP anymore
[12:33] <tristanmike> jossver: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[12:33] <gonzobrains> sad all my DJ apps are windows based though
[12:34] <duelboot> gnomefreak, remind me how to restart .bashrc please
[12:34] <serge_> gonzobrains, thats what a lot of people say, but it all depends on what the rest of the world is using too :)
[12:34] <IdleOne> yeti_, on gnome apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for kde and ubuntu-desktop on kde for gnome
[12:34] <gonzobrains> true true
[12:34] <armann> gnomefreak, yes i did
[12:34] <gnomefreak> armann: please paste your fixed sources.list file on pastebin
[12:34] <gholen> anyone here that has a Dell laptop with working sound and the soundship "HDA Intel Sigmatel" ?
[12:35] <armann> commented cd, commented out all the other lines starting with dev, and added multiverse to all lines that have universe
[12:35] <gnomefreak> duelboot: i dont know i didnt think it needed to be restarted
[12:35] <skynet> Can anybody tell me how I can put files from my desktop into the USR folder?
[12:35] <serge_> gonzobrains, I only use Windows for MSN Messenger, as aMSN etc sucks, it just looks horrible and Gaming because Wine and the other emulators never seem to work well enough to play anything I want them too
[12:35] <iceman> Has to be a freaking way to change the KDE or Gnome control bar ...
[12:35] <duelboot> gnomefreak I'm trying to reload it...added aliases and want to use them
[12:35] <mwe> iceman: control bar?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> armann: please paste it and the errors would be good to have
[12:35] <IdleOne> skynet, sudo mv /path/of/file /path/to/file
[12:35] <gonzobrains> serge: yeah, that's another thing...messengers
[12:35] <armann> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/641043
[12:35] <iceman> the applocation bar ..
[12:35] <gonzobrains> serge: i hate having so many friggin messengers. i wish i could consolidate them all
[12:36] <gonzobrains> or get all my friends to just use IRC or KDX
[12:36] <duelboot> anyone know how to reload .bashrc without rebooting?
[12:36] <serge_> gonzobrains, what do you normaly use in the form of messnegers?
[12:36] <gonzobrains> anyone use KDX here?
[12:36] <serge_> no what is KDX?
[12:36] <NickGarvey> !kdx
[12:36] <gonzobrains> http://www.haxial.com
[12:36] <gnomefreak> armann: give me an idea on the errors please
[12:36] <gonzobrains> like modern-day bbs'ing over the internet
[12:36] <iceman> mwe the stupid little k icon in kde ... and the stupid basic gnome application bar in gnome
[12:36] <konfuzed> duelboot logout login
[12:36] <armann> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/641045
[12:36] <duelboot> konfuzed, thx but there's a way to do it without that
[12:36] <serge_> iceman, its not only gnome and kde you know
[12:36] <mwe> iceman: of course there is
[12:36] <serge_> there is fluxbox and some others too
[12:36] <duelboot> let's see what google says
[12:37] <iceman> mwe never have been able to change these stupid generic ones
[12:37] <gnomefreak> armann: take the is. away from the repos please
[12:37] <armann> you crazy?
[12:37] <duelboot> all it's 'source .bashrc'
[12:37] <tspier2> Alright, well I have a problem. When I was using Version 4. something of Ubuntu, it ran great. The base system was perfect for me, because it enabled me to install anything I wanted. Then I install version 5.10, download some source code, and go to install it. It starts giving me errors about the command "make" and "make install". So then I installed the package that controls those two commands with sudo apt-get install. Once
[12:37] <tspier2>  I did that, I go to install something again, and I continually get errors about the makefile. I hardly see how every single program I try to install could be screwed up, so the only logical thing is something messed up with make and make install. Can someone please help me?
[12:37] <mwe> iceman: http://mikkelerup.homepage.dk/shot.png
[12:37] <jossver> how to install Flash Player on Firefox?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> armann: no im not
[12:37] <mwe> iceman: that's my desktop
[12:37] <serge_> gonzobrains, well I'd say if you use irc, msn and icq to use Gaim, though it's horrible it has all the support needed. But as you use weird chat protocols etc looks like you have to use the standalone software
[12:37] <gnomefreak> armann: im not goona screw up your system
[12:37] <armann> gnomefreak, then i will have to pay for downloading..
[12:38] <iceman> mwe thanks ill take a look
[12:38] <gnomefreak> armann: no
[12:38] <gonzobrains> weird chat protocols?
[12:38] <_jason> jossver: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:38] <armann> gnomefreak, yes, im in iceland, and i pay for stuff outside iceland
[12:38] <gonzobrains> i use AIM, MSN, and Yahoo!
[12:38] <NickGarvey> me and GAIM are good friends
[12:38] <gonzobrains> KDX: i dont mind using KDX standalone.  it's much more than just chat. it's file sharing, chatting, remote computer access, etc.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> armann: yuck i didnt know iceland had lawa on that
[12:38] <gonzobrains> what is GAIM exactly? and why does it suck?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> laws
[12:39] <armann> still cant find the package
[12:39] <gonzobrains> how did the makers reverse-engineer the msn, aim, etc. protocols?
[12:39] <iceman> mwe how ddi you change the icon on the KDE application bar
[12:39] <duelboot> Hey, NickGarvey, you could have helped me, but I found it...added an alias so I could stop typing 'sudo apt-get XXXX' all the time
[12:39] <skynet> IdleOne: i cant get it to work, i have an extracted folder called USR on my desktop that i want to overwrite the systems USR file with
[12:39] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: gaim is a IM chat client that handle many protocols such as aim, msn, yahoo
[12:39] <gnomefreak> _jason: know anything about iceland?
[12:39] <gonzobrains> tristanmike: is gaim stable?
[12:39] <armann> its not all bad, i just made a 12 month contract with my ISP, and the next month every bloody ISP had free downloading outside iceland D:
[12:39] <_jason> gnomefreak: it's near greenland
[12:39] <mwe> iceman: I installed a different theme, but you can replace the icon with anotherone manually
[12:39] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: yeah, of course
[12:39] <gnomefreak> lol _jason
[12:40] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: it's included by default under Internet
[12:40] <gonzobrains> tristanmike: does it only support limited chatting or everything like audibles, image sharing, etc.?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> armann: hold on a min i have a feeling icelands repos are down
[12:40] <iceman> mwe can you add any size icon .... would like a bit of a Winblows feel to the button ... "Large" where i can find it ..
[12:40] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[12:40] <gonzobrains> tristanmike:  i see it. i will hafta try it out
[12:40] <armann> i removed the is., but still nothing
[12:41] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: ...not sure about audibles, don't use yahoo that much, filesharing is semi-ok
[12:41] <triage> Is sound juicer just really slow at ripping a cd, or does ripping at 1.7x mean i screwed something up during install
[12:41] <armann> also, i have the files, which i found with some package search in firefox, but dont know how to extract them
[12:41] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: does not support web cam at this time
[12:41] <gonzobrains> tristanmike: i guess basic chat will work for now.
[12:41] <gonzobrains> i'm just getting sick of microsoft
[12:41] <gonzobrains> i hate doing the "your program has shut down, click to send error report" shit all the time
[12:41] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: that's where I'm at
[12:41] <mwe> iceman: I think kde uses the icon size that mathes the toolbar. you want a wider one or what?
[12:41] <swalchy> erm, hi
[12:42] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: please watch your language, this is a family channel, :)
[12:42] <gonzobrains> what do you guys use in ubuntu to do automatic file backups?
[12:42] <NickGarvey> hello swalchy what can we do for you?
[12:42] <iceman> mwe yea wider ...
[12:42] <gonzobrains> sorry about that.  my bad.
[12:42] <swalchy> hi, I'm complete new to linux and Ubuntu
[12:42] <armann> gnomefreak, if i have the files, could you tell me how to extract them?
[12:42] <swalchy> just installing it right now atm
[12:42] <swalchy> quick question
[12:42] <gonzobrains> how does ubuntu compare to red hat?
[12:42] <armann> gnomefreak, honestly, cant seem to find the commands anywhere
[12:42] <NickGarvey> swalchy: ask away
[12:42] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: no worries, we have all been known to use colourful language from time to time ;P
[12:42] <swalchy> what's this "erase parttions and use LVM"
[12:42] <tspier2> gonzobrains, Ubuntu > Redhat
[12:42] <swalchy> what's LVM?
[12:42] <gonzobrains> tspier2 hahahaha
[12:42] <NickGarvey> gonzobrains: try it and find out, I picked ubuntu over red hat, but thats an opinion
[12:42] <tristanmike> gonzobrains: Ubuntu pwns Redhat
[12:43] <gonzobrains> i am trying ubuntu right now.
[12:43] <mwe> iceman: I don't know if you can do that easily.  When I open them up in a midi player it looks like it should be playing but nothing comes out of my speakers.
[12:43] <cafuego_> !test
[12:43] <tspier2> I don't know about the "crap" saying, but about the first question, yes.
[12:43] <Toran> I have no other apparent sound problems
[12:43] <iceman> mwe where does KDE keep the normal icons ...
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: but at least you can replace the krappy default icon
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/*/*/kcmkicker.png
[12:44] <swalchy> what does it actually do?
[12:44] <iceman> mwe yea that default one gets pld fast
[12:44] <gonzobrains> i would like to take a bunch of my old computers (pentium 2s and 3s) with 1 gig hard drives and minimal memory and set them up for internet access for children, charities, etc.
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: where the first * is your current theme
[12:44] <gonzobrains> besides saying "ubuntu pwns red hat" can anyone give me specifics?
[12:44] <mwe> iceman: the second is a size like 32x32
[12:44] <dsl_> Hello, can I uipgrade from sarge to ubuntu?
[12:45] <mwe> iceman: that's the kicker pixmap
[12:45] <NickGarvey> dsl_: sarge is debian right?
[12:45] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: the deb system management tools are much nicer than the rpm ones.
[12:45] <jossver> NickGarvey: yes
[12:45] <dsl_> Yes, debian current.
[12:45] <scott_> anyone have a dapper box with their first user that they haven't changed the groups on? can you type groups and tell me what it says? I think I messed mine up
[12:45] <lemino> i need a tool to be able to set brightness for my ATI x300se-card. anyone knows one?
[12:45] <gonzobrains> ok
[12:45] <NickGarvey> dsl_: not really, need to do a new install
 I'm currently installing ubuntu on an old pentium 2 with a 4 GB HDD on
[12:45] <jossver> dsl_: Open your sources.list and replace sarge with breezy, and remove the debian-only things in your list
[12:45] <swalchy> I'll tell you how it goes lol
[12:45] <swalchy> laptop too
[12:45] <gonzobrains> can i use ubuntu in an embedded environment or is there a better solution?
[12:45] <dsl_> jossver: K.
[12:45] <gonzobrains> swalchy: that's dope!
[12:45] <jossver> dsl_: then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade; it's not guaranteed to work, but you might give it a try
[12:45] <lancia> is it against the law to sell open software?
[12:45] <mwe> gonzobrains: you can
[12:46] <swalchy> huh?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> armann: please paste this list in place of yours i wanna see if the ic repos are down http://pastebin.com/641058
[12:46] <_jason> lancia: no
[12:46] <Agrajag> lancia: no
[12:46] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: Depends on the hardware specs; generally I'd say there would be a better solution.
[12:46] <NickGarvey> lancia: no
[12:46] <NickGarvey> I felt left out
[12:46] <mwe> gonzobrains: in fact it's not uncommen. but i'm not into the details
[12:46] <dsl_> jossver: Thanks!
[12:46] <cafuego_> !test
[12:46] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[12:46] <lancia> i was looking at some medical software that is open but they are selling it. maybe it is value added?
[12:46] <NickGarvey> yes!
[12:46] <NickGarvey> !hug
[12:46] <ubotu> ubotu gives nickgarvey a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[12:46] <swalchy> Another quick Q:
[12:46] <tristanmike> !botsnack
[12:46] <ubotu> :)
[12:47] <Agrajag> lancia: are they selling support, or just the media, or what?
[12:47] <swalchy> Does Ubuntu support Linksys wireless network cards?
[12:47] <jossver> aaaaah
[12:47] <jossver> ubotu is back
[12:47] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jossver
[12:47] <NickGarvey> !Wireless
[12:47] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:47] <IdleOne> !wifi
[12:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:47] <lancia> http://www.synitech.com/openemr/index.php
[12:47] <Agrajag> either way it's probably fine, depending on the license
[12:47] <tspier2> Alright, well I have a problem. When I was using Version 4. something of Ubuntu, it ran great. The base system was perfect for me, because it enabled me to install anything I wanted. Then I install version 5.10, download some source code, and go to install it. It starts giving me errors about the command "make" and "make install". So then I installed the package that controls those two commands with sudo apt-get install. Once
[12:47] <tspier2>  I did that, I go to install something again, and I continually get errors about the makefile. I hardly see how every single program I try to install could be screwed up, so the only logical thing is something messed up with make and make install. Can someone please help me?
[12:47] <NickGarvey> swalchy: 2 links up there ^
[12:47] <NickGarvey> SPAM
[12:47] <apokryphos> cafuego: heh. What had happened? :)
[12:48] <_harm> hi i just insterted my Mp3 player but i cant seem to delete or move files onto it... its like frozen moving. Its not an ipod its hould b plug n play
[12:48] <armann> gnomefreak, wtf.. still cant find vlc
[12:48] <Agrajag> lancia: looks like you're paying for the documentation/support/external HDD
[12:48] <cafuego_> apokryphos: dunno, the log just stopped and blootbot wasn't running. I blame perl.
[12:48] <mwe> tspier2: install build-essential for starters
[12:48] <gnomefreak> armann: did you run sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <gonzobrains> cafuego:  well, i worked for a company that used red hat to make slot machines
[12:48] <lancia> ahh ok thanks
[12:48] <lancia> :)
[12:48] <tspier2> mwe, that is what I installed.
[12:48] <lemino> anyone, tool for setting my ATI-card's brightness?
[12:48] <gonzobrains> apparently it was okay to use as long as they published the parts of the kernel they had to modify
[12:48] <chanakya> tspier2: compiling is not a good option for starters and you will noever get away with dependencies
[12:48] <mwe> tspier2: and what kind of errors do you get?
[12:48] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: indeed.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> armann: its in universe repo
[12:49] <apokryphos> cafuego: evil indeed =)
[12:49] <gonzobrains> but could you scale back ubuntu to just run embedded
[12:49] <lancia> that is a very clever idea!
[12:49] <Agrajag> lancia: and under the GPL, you can charge anything you want for the software, if you provide the source code and give all the same redistribution rights to anyone you sell it to
[12:49] <tspier2> mwe, let me quick find you one...
[12:49] <chanakya> tspier2: for starters it`s always better to use apt-get
[12:49] <odin> how do I change my DNS server?
[12:49] <mwe> tspier2: btw I'd advise you to use checkinstall to install the programs
[12:49] <gonzobrains> mwe: it's not uncommon?  anywhere i can look for resources?
[12:49] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: You could, but why not use a distro that IS already scaled back?
[12:49] <Agrajag> I don't know that that is the license they're using here though
[12:49] <swalchy> wow
[12:49] <swalchy> now I've completely lost where I am..
[12:49] <NickGarvey> swalchy: scroll up
[12:49] <vladuz976> hi, i set up a crontab to run a shell script everyday at a certain time, but it didn't run the script? how can i find out what's wrong?
[12:49] <NickGarvey> !tell swalchy about wifi
[12:49] <armann> gnomefreak,  anyways, if i already have the files, which i downloaded from some package thingie in firefox, how do i extract it?
[12:49] <NickGarvey> !tell swalchy about wireless
[12:49] <chanakya> odin: sudo neat
[12:49] <gonzobrains> cafuego:  that's what i'm asking.  what's the best distro for that?
[12:50] <armann> gnomefreak, .deb files
[12:50] <gnomefreak> armann: what type of format are they?
[12:50] <lancia> well then this means that anyone in here could sell Ubuntu or Kubuntu???
[12:50] <gonzobrains> it would be for a headless application
[12:50] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: Again, that depends on your hardware.
[12:50] <mwe> gnomefreak: I know some mobile phones use linux, but like I said I'm not into the details.
[12:50] <tspier2> mwe, here is an example error I get...
[12:50] <tspier2> make[2] : *** [install-binPROGRAMS]  Error 1
[12:50] <tspier2> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/troy/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3/src'
[12:50] <tspier2> make[1] : *** [install-am]  Error 2
[12:50] <tspier2> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/troy/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3/src'
[12:50] <tspier2> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[12:50] <NickGarvey> lancia: yessir
[12:50] <gnomefreak> armann: to install .debs you run sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:50] <NickGarvey> !paste
[12:50] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:50] <gonzobrains> basic x86 process or maybe ARM, serial ports and ethernet
[12:50] <lancia> but that doenst sound right...
[12:50] <gnomefreak> lol mwe ;)
[12:50] <armann> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.4-svn20050920-3%2Bhal0ubuntu3_i386.deb&md5sum=ee8472179edc9ee3aa2e4ea12c0c1595&arch=i386&type=main
[12:50] <odin> chanakya: what's sudo neat?  I'm completely new to Linux
[12:50] <NickGarvey> lancia: why would people buy something that is free?
[12:50] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: ram/storage?
[12:50] <NickGarvey> !tell odin about sido
[12:50] <mwe> tspier2: how about sudo apt-get install supertux?
[12:50] <NickGarvey> !tell odin about sudo
[12:51] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: no bot
[12:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:51] <gonzobrains> prolly like 128 meg flash and 2 megs RAM, maybe 256k non volatile
[12:51] <NickGarvey> !test
[12:51] <ubotu> Crashed.
[12:51] <mwe> tspier2: also don't paste in here. you'll get banned
[12:51] <IdleOne> ubotu, is back
[12:51] <ubotu> IdleOne: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:51] <lancia> people do that all the time.
[12:51] <lancia> but i agree
[12:51] <swalchy> thanks nick - IO've managed to find the driver I need for it
[12:51] <tspier2> mwe, sorry. I didn't know.
[12:51] <chanakya> odin well neat is a program that helps you set networkinh
[12:51] <swalchy> too bad it's not included on the Ubunut CD
[12:51] <Dele2> prblems installing mplayer. can anyone give me some advice
[12:51] <mwe> tspier2: use pastebin.com or something like that
[12:51] <gnomefreak> huh when did he come back?
[12:51] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: You're not going to be able to run Ubuntu in 2MB ram.
[12:51] <tspier2> Okay
[12:51] <NickGarvey> swalchy: theres not room for thousands of wireless drivers
[12:51] <lancia> are any of these linux distros bootable from a memory usb stick?
[12:51] <chanakya> odin: or go to system --> networking
[12:51] <swalchy> what media player does Ubuntu use?
[12:51] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: You'll need a highly tuned tiny kernel.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?highlight=%28rootsudo%29  <<<info on sudo
[12:51] <armann> oh well.. shower
[12:52] <tspier2> lacnia, damn small linux is a good one for usb stick.
[12:52] <tristanmike> swalchy: Rhythmbox
[12:52] <swalchy> Is it more customizable than windows media player? I'm gonna go with yes
[12:52] <tspier2> lancia*
[12:52] <IdleOne> !tell gnomefreak about bot
[12:52] <IdleOne> :)
[12:52] <tristanmike> swalchy: "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[12:52] <lancia> thanks for the info!
[12:52] <gnomefreak> lol IdleOne  he was gone for the longest time
[12:52] <gonzobrains> i'm sorry that was a typo.  128 MB
[12:52] <tspier2> lancia, I also think Knoppix might boot from a usb stick.
[12:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, he came back bout 5 minutes ago
[12:53] <gonzobrains> cafuego i've got 128 MB RAM
[12:53] <NickGarvey> (18:45:50) ubotu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[12:53] <lancia> excellent
[12:53] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: that'd do it.
[12:53] <mwe> gonzobrains: my router runs linux (linksys) I don't know how much ram it has though ;)
[12:53] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: I'd still have a bit of a google for embedded Linux distros, though, if I were you.
[12:53] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ but i don't have any need for graphics, etc...just want to make a headless app
[12:53] <cafuego_> mwe: They typically have in between 4 and 16mb.
[12:53] <tspier2> mwe, there we go. Thanks. I need to remember to use apt-get instead of going from source right away.
[12:54] <mwe> tspier2: yeah use apt-cache search first
[12:54] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ : good idea. thanks
[12:54] <zerokarmaleft> hmm, dapper changes to the gdm screen are strange
[12:54] <korhalf> where can i edit the fonts and make them easier to read on an LCD?
[12:54] <mwe> tspier2: enable !universe and !multiverse too if you haven't for loads of more crap
[12:55] <tspier2> Okay
[12:55] <eternaljoy-> when I dial in to internet, many times modem starts downloading, I believe its "update" something!   Same goes fo the userapce apps. You can fix that by rebuilding, but on specialised distros, others do that, so you don't need to bother :-)
[12:55] <cafuego_> gonzobrains: Han, .au
[12:56] <tatum> Hi guys! Is there a kernel guru among you?
[12:56] <gonzobrains> cafuego_ : thanks
[12:56] <eth0-noob> um
[12:56] <eternaljoy-> cafuego: when I dial in to internet, many times modem starts downloading, I believe its "update" something!  How can I stop it doing this automatically?
[12:56] <swalchy> How long have you all been using linux for then?
[12:56] <eth0-noob> does anyone know if theres an automatix thing for dapper drake?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[12:56] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> and no
[12:56] <eternaljoy-> !turn off auto update
[12:56] <ubotu> eternaljoy-: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:56] <jadaz87> can someone help me with my Palm/Linux Sync problem
[12:56] <eth0-noob> heh
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> !turnoffautoupdate
[12:57] <liable> eternaljoy-: what makes you say that??
[12:57] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eternaljoy-
[12:57] <Dele2> how do i supply the font path? what file do i edit?
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: say what?
[12:57] <mwe> gonzobrains: maybe something like DSL
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eth0-noob about easyubuntu
[12:57] <Seveas> eth0-noob, automatix should be avoided like the plague
[12:57] <liable> eternaljoy-: that it starts downloading something?
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: my auto update is on and its annyoing!  I want to update manually
[12:57] <cafuego_> !easyubuntu
[12:57] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:57] <NickGarvey> friends don't let friends use automatix
[12:57] <liable> eternaljoy-: so turn it off..
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: HOW???? :P
[12:57] <eternaljoy-> liable: thats my question! HOW do I turn it off?
[12:58] <adwr> to anyone and all: Any good/innovative ideas when creating swap partition?
[12:58] <adwr> the reason I ask is that I have read somewhere that dividing my swap into two partitions, each on different disks and channels might result in speed increase...
[12:58] <swalchy> I so just killed the conversation
[12:58] <cafuego_> liable: It might try to run an apt-get update when it detects a network connection, if it hasn't been online for a while.
[12:58] <liable> eternaljoy-: no idea, didnt even know there was automatic updates.
[12:58] <TruckerMan> okay, if anybody feels like helping me...i lspci -v and get all kinds of information on my wireless pci card and it mostly matches with alot of help/howto listings but doesnt match any of them completely, this could be just due to typoes?  and what should i do now?  just install ndiswrapper or what?
[12:58] <_jason_> Dele2: install mplayer-fonts
[12:58] <eternaljoy-> liable: you must be new to ubuntu then!
[12:58] <eternaljoy-> does anyone know how to turn off auto update?
[12:58] <liable> eternaljoy-: yes, i guess. :)
[12:58] <zerokarmaleft> eternaljoy-: System | Software Properties | Internet Updates
[12:58] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok thanks
[12:59] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: I dont see  System | Software Properties
[12:59] <gonzobrains> mwe : DSL?
[12:59] <paradiseLost> is there a site for downloading soundcard drivers for ubuntu?
[12:59] <mwe> gonzobrains: damn small linux
[12:59] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: I only have  System | prefernces and  System | Administation
[12:59] <Cooner750> My IRC software keeps going off...
[12:59] <liable> paradiseLost: alsa.org on sourceforge
[12:59] <gonzobrains> mwe: ahh, yes, i've heard of that briefly. thanxx
[12:59] <cafuego_> If anyone is old enough to remember TTD and was addicted to it, OpenTTD is the coolest thing ever,
[12:59] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: I dont see Internet Updates ANYWHERE! im using Breezy
[12:59] <mwe> gonzobrains: I believe there is an embedded version
[12:59] <cva> using gnome, is there a way to adjust the scroll wheel rate? the mouse preference doesn't have an option for it.
[01:00] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: well?
[01:00] <Cooner750> Is there any way to fix a problem where Ubuntu freezes during boot, besides reinstalling?
[01:00] <gonzobrains> does anyone remember an online BBS text game called "geopolitics"?
[01:00] <liable> Cooner750: wheres it freeze?
[01:00] <mwe> Cooner750: determine the problem first or it might persist
[01:00] <NickGarvey> cafuego_: is it in the repos?
[01:00] <iceman> mwe dang how to change the stupid icon ... :( premission to move a image to that location
[01:00] <zerokarmaleft> eternaljoy-: System | Administration | Update Manager | Preferences | Settings
[01:00] <eternaljoy-> hi :) does anyone know how to turn off auto update?
[01:01] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok ty :)
[01:01] <mwe> iceman: sudo -i to get a root prompt
[01:01] <cafuego_> NickGarvey: No, but there's a .deb (you need a copy of the original game too, though)
[01:01] <Cooner750> At the step "Setting up ALSA card 0....... OK"    It's installed and configured to run on a USB external harddrive and worked fine until a power outage while it was running
[01:01] <Cooner750> The step before that "Configuring network interfaces" it never says OK on
[01:01] <mwe> iceman: or use sudo in front of every command
[01:01] <liable> Cooner750: then it just hangs?? try a fsck?
[01:01] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok I unticked auto update :)  So now I need to type apt-get update regularly, correct?
[01:02] <iceman> how to get gimp running in sudo
[01:02] <Xenguy> iceman: sudo -i sounds easier :p
[01:02] <mwe> iceman: you should need that
[01:02] <Xenguy> iceman: you don't want GIMP running in sudo I don't think
[01:02] <mwe> iceman: copy the file to your homedir
[01:02] <TruckerMan> too many people in here
[01:02] <zerokarmaleft> eternaljoy-: yes, you have to manually update and upgrade
[01:02] <Cooner750> Where can I get it to go to a command propmt to to fsck?
[01:02] <Xenguy> TruckerMan: yes - go away :P   ;-)
[01:02] <eternaljoy-> zerokarmaleft: ok, thanks :)
[01:02] <eternaljoy-> bye
[01:02] <Cooner750> to do*
[01:02] <mwe> iceman: then edit it. then make a backup of the original and copy the new one back
[01:02] <phaidros> how to tell beagle not to run with --debug ?
[01:03] <cafuego_> phaidros: edit /usr/bin/beagle
[01:03] <Xenguy> !tell Cooner750 about terminal
[01:03] <mwe> iceman: changing owner/group to root on the way
[01:03] <liable> Cooner750: use a live cd
[01:03] <TruckerMan> Xenguy, your increasing my roadrage
[01:03] <Xenguy> TruckerMan: heheh
[01:03] <phaidros> cafuego, didn't expect that to be a script :) thanx
[01:03] <TruckerMan> what kind of car do you drive?
[01:03] <DragonRidr> hi all
[01:03] <NickGarvey> hello
[01:03] <jadaz87> hello
[01:03] <pgavin> would someone be able to help me with getting dri working on my IBM ThinkPad T30?
[01:03] <cafuego_> phaidros: also do beagled-helper and beagle-search
[01:04] <pgavin> its got an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
[01:04] <iceman> dang lost the location of the K icon usr/apt/ ? ? ?
[01:04] <NickGarvey> !ati
[01:04] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:04] <mwe> iceman: o run on a USB external harddrive and worked fine  until a power outage while it was running
[01:04] <mwe> 01:01 <mwe> iceman: or use sudo in front of every command
[01:04] <mwe> sorry!
[01:04] <liable> the 7500 is supported natively
[01:04] <phaidros> cafuego, where are the two located?
[01:04] <pgavin> NickGarvey, the card isn't supported by the ati firegl drivers
[01:04] <DragonRidr> hate to come to a new room and have to ask for help but sure could use some.
[01:05] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[01:05] <iceman> where i that k icon on the panal again
[01:05] <pgavin> NickGarvey, its supposed to use the radeon driver
[01:05] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: this is a technical support channel - ask away
[01:05] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[01:05] <IdleOne> DragonRidr, what do you need help with
[01:05] <NickGarvey> pgavin: eh I don't know anything about graphics cards, I just know how to use ubotu ;)
[01:05] <iceman> may have it .. ?
[01:06] <pgavin> NickGarvey, :)
[01:06] <DragonRidr> thanks Xenguy ...i still hate to ask but i am haveing trouble dureing the install of ubantu. dureing the partation step
[01:06] <swalchy> Is Ubuntu supposed to take this long when it first boots up?
[01:06] <NickGarvey> swalchy: takes very little time for me
[01:06] <mwe> iceman: I think it will stretch or schrink your icon if it doesn't fit the default size though
[01:06] <IdleOne> swalchy, how long does it take?
[01:06] <swalchy> Well
[01:06] <swalchy> it's been taking about 5-10 mins
[01:06] <NickGarvey> swalchy: what does it seem to lag on
[01:06] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: post details to the channel and someone will (hopefully) answer
[01:06] <swalchy> it's an old laptop
[01:06] <swalchy> Pentium 2, 64 MB ram, 4 GB HDD
[01:06] <TruckerMan> swalchy mine hangs on hotplugs settings every now and then and i have to hard reboot
[01:06] <NickGarvey> swalchy: like what is it on that is making it lag?
[01:06] <IdleOne> swalchy, thats a long time but yeah it could I guess
[01:07] <swalchy> It's only the first time booting up
[01:07] <TruckerMan> did it on first boot too
[01:07] <swalchy> hang at hotplug settings?
[01:07] <TruckerMan> shut down restart and if finished installing
[01:07] <swalchy> sounds like a bug
[01:07] <mwe> TruckerMan: In a few months we'll all be freed from the hotplug nightmares
[01:07] <iceman> brb i hope this works
[01:07] <swalchy> what is, hotplug?
[01:07] <Xenguy> mwe: why?
[01:08] <master1> hey i need help with screen resolution
[01:08] <mwe> Xenguy: because in dapper it's gone
[01:08] <swalchy> that like, plug n play?
[01:08] <DragonRidr> okay when i get to partaioning i went to manual partioning as i have and am useing winxp at this time. i have a 250 gig sata drive partationed into 3 partation. winxp on first one. got ext3 set on 2cd one and 3rd to fat32. ide drive i got set to swap.
[01:08] <Xenguy> mwe: what is the alternative then?
[01:08] <IdleOne> !tell master1 about fixres
[01:08] <DragonRidr> but i cant get past that as i get the errorno root file system difined
[01:08] <iceman> mwe nope did not work
[01:08] <IdleOne> swalchy, yeah
[01:08] <mwe> iceman: you replaced the wrong file then
[01:08] <swalchy> so dapper doesn't have plug n play?
[01:09] <swalchy> @ mwe
[01:09] <cafuego_> well, that was interesting.
[01:09] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: you need to specify your ext3 partition's mount point as /
[01:09] <mwe> swalchy: ?
[01:09] <cafuego_> Xgl locks up when you adjust the system time.
[01:09] <iceman> to dantg bad you cant drag and drop
[01:09] <swalchy> you said dapper doesn't have hotplugs
[01:09] <swalchy> yeah?
[01:09] <NickGarvey> !hotplug
[01:09] <ubotu> NickGarvey: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:09] <cafuego_> swalchy: No, it uses something else.
[01:09] <mwe> cafuego_: do you what has replaced hotplug in dapper?
[01:10] <swalchy> ooo
[01:10] <swalchy> that took only 1 min to get pas tthe first bit
[01:10] <TruckerMan> will that 'something else' recognize my wireless card?
[01:10] <DragonRidr> zerokarmaleft does that set it for the partation leval or full drive leval ?? sorry i am slow on that
[01:10] <swalchy> hehe
[01:10] <swalchy> I'm like kid with a christmas present
[01:10] <Seveas> mwe, udev
[01:11] <cafuego_> mwe:  dbus/hal/udev
[01:11] <swalchy> oh
[01:11] <swalchy> it's gone onto "installing packages"
[01:11] <swalchy> how long should this take?
[01:11] <sonic> is there anyone here that can help me?
[01:11] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: patience, because frankly certain partitioning scenarios (in my humble experience) are a bit confusing (simpler is better :-)
[01:11] <IdleOne> swalchy, less then the rest of the night
[01:11] <swalchy> sonic - there's hundreds
[01:11] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: at the partition level
[01:11] <TruckerMan> anybody had any luck with ndiswrapper on a Lynksys Wireless card?
[01:11] <swalchy> ..thanks, idleOne
[01:11] <master1> just b4 i restarted it it was 1024*768 now its 640*400
[01:11] <swalchy> Truckerman - I'm gonna be trying that soon
[01:11] <Steveire> hello
[01:11] <swalchy> infact
[01:11] <IdleOne> swalchy, depends but about 15 minutes for me
[01:11] <Xenguy> mwe: udev, gotcha
[01:11] <TruckerMan> swalchy, how soon?
[01:12] <sonic> I have a problem with my internet connection, pages are taking ages to load, sometimes they dont at all
[01:12] <sonic> its a wired connection through my router
[01:12] <swalchy> once it's finished installing Ubuntu on my laptop :P
[01:12] <IdleOne> !tell sonic about ipv6
[01:12] <DragonRidr> np Xenguy i am in no hurry lol have waited 3 days for a reply in the forums before looking elsewhere for help
[01:12] <swalchy> infact
[01:12] <swalchy> go
[01:12] <swalchy> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[01:12] <TruckerMan> heh
[01:12] <master1>  just b4 i restarted it it was 1024*768 now its 640*400
[01:12] <Steveire> i installed fedora a few weeks ago, now i want to start again with ubuntu
[01:12] <Dele> okay i have installed the mplayer fonts. mplayer allows me select a media file but does not play it. it does not progress from the start of the song nor is there any sound. Sound does work if i use rhythmbox
[01:12] <Steveire> good idea?
[01:12] <swalchy> and do a search for your linksys card
[01:12] <swalchy> should give you a driver for it
[01:12] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: my, you *are* patient :-)
[01:12] <sonic> yeah I read about that
[01:12] <sonic> but
[01:12] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: when you're looking at the partition details, you select what kind of filesystem you're using, whether or not to format it, where to mount it, etc.
[01:12] <DragonRidr> zerokarmaleft thanks that is what i wasnt sure about and didnt want to loose the install of windows. since i just installed the sata drive
[01:13] <sonic> i need root permission or something in the console
[01:13] <TruckerMan> swalchy, its vague
[01:13] <IdleOne> sonic use sudo
[01:13] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: just make sure you're windows partitions are set at "Keep existing data"
[01:13] <IdleOne> !tell sonic about sudo
[01:13] <swalchy> how do you mean?
[01:13] <TruckerMan> that list is full of typoes or else i have a one of a kind card
[01:13] <mwe> sonic: sudo. sudo -i to get a root prompt
[01:13] <iceman> mwe name of the icon ?
[01:13] <swalchy> just do Ctrl+F - type in card number, search
[01:13] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: which is what the installer sets by default, iirc
[01:13] <sonic> thanks alot!
[01:13] <swalchy> how I found mine
[01:13] <DragonRidr> that i can do zerokarmaleft lol 3 trys and didnt loose that
[01:13] <mwe> iceman: write it down :)
[01:13] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/*/*/apps/kcmkicker.png
[01:14] <Steveire> hi
[01:14] <swalchy> mines a WPC54G version 4 netword card
[01:14] <mwe> iceman: you have to replace the one for your current icon theme
[01:14] <iceman> dont see the * / * ? whats that part
[01:14] <sonic> i'm in!
[01:14] <sonic> lol
[01:14] <sonic> sorry for the cheesy hacker moment
[01:14] <DragonRidr> thanks Xenguy and zerokarmaleft for the help and info i am sure i can get it installed now that i know what i need to do. :))
[01:14] <mwe> iceman: then maybe switch icon theme to a different one and back. I'm not sure if it caches some icons
[01:15] <TruckerMan> mine almost matches about three of the dif lynksys...almost
[01:15] <DragonRidr> i dont mind playing with my system but try not to crash it from makeing choice with out the right info lol lol
[01:15] <TruckerMan> i should just go with the one it matches most?
[01:15] <TruckerMan> or will that make matters worse?
[01:15] <TruckerMan> if its wrong
[01:15] <mwe> iceman: I explained that already
[01:15] <Xenguy> DragonRidr: good luck
[01:16] <iceman> i'm lost ... navigatin ...
[01:16] <zerokarmaleft> DragonRidr: np
[01:16] <sonic> hi again
[01:16] <mwe> iceman: first * is the name of the icon theme. second is a size directory like 32x32
[01:16] <Angel_Dex> HI hi i need help with sound
[01:16] <sonic> i just tried to follow the instructions for disabling ipv6
[01:16] <sonic> it gives me a failed attempt
[01:16] <iceman> it's crystal
[01:16] <Cooner750> I have a important question
[01:16] <swalchy> yeah
[01:16] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_pointer_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DIS PLAY (display)' failed
[01:16] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_keyboard_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DI SPLAY (display)' failed
[01:16] <Angel_Dex> i bought a set of logitech x530s and their surround sound speakers dont work and they are kinda crackle
[01:16] <swalchy> the driver wont knacker the card
[01:16] <Angel_Dex> Y
[01:16] <mwe> iceman: crystalsvg?
[01:16] <DragonRidr> well i am off to do the install take care every one
[01:17] <swalchy> you can't knacker the actualy hardware with a driver
[01:17] <mwe> iceman: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/ or whatever the size it's using
[01:17] <iceman> the "K" is in what size icon ... yes the crystalsvg set current
[01:17] <Cooner750> Does anyobody here have the .zip of the drivers that work with ndiswrapper for the ZyXEL ZyAir G-302 PCI wireless card? The link on ZyXEL's site is broken and they will not respond to my emails
[01:17] <swalchy> should say on the back of the card what it is and what version
[01:18] <swalchy> Cooner: Try http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[01:18] <iceman> think i found it .. thanks
[01:18] <mwe> iceman: now I am confused as well maybe it's /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/kicker.png
[01:18] <TruckerMan> yeah? ok, what about ndiswrapper? i need that? and if so, whats the best/simplest way to install it?  i can d/l it to windows partition and run from there, what kind of package should i use?
[01:18] <Steveire> I installed lots of useful stuff on fedora. Will I have the same available if I install ubuntu?
[01:18] <swalchy> don't know about ndiswrapper, someone else would need to answer that
[01:18] <swalchy> I'm new to this too lol
[01:19] <IdleOne> Steveire, packages.ubuntu.com to search for the stuff you want
[01:19] <sonic> hmmm, does this make sense to anyone?
[01:19] <Cooner750> Just a error at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[01:19] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_pointer_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DIS PLAY (display)' failed
[01:19] <sonic> (gedit:6554): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_keyboard_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DI SPLAY (display)' failed
[01:19] <Steveire> it's as simple as yum is it?
[01:19] <swalchy> lol
[01:19] <docta_v> what's the best looking term app for linux these days?
[01:19] <IdleOne> Steveire, I guess it is :)
[01:19] <sonic> i followed the instructions  to the letter for disabling the ipv6
[01:19] <docta_v> is it still eterm? i'm looking for eye candy over functionality
[01:19] <Angel_Dex> i bought a set of logitech x530s and their surround sound speakers dont work and they are kinda crackle
[01:20] <mwe> docta_v: terminal emulater?
[01:20] <IdleOne> Steveire, there are over 18000 packages there so you prolly find what you want
[01:20] <docta_v> mwe: yea
[01:20] <mwe> docta_v: it depends on who you ask
[01:20] <Phlosten> sonic, they look like error messages for gedit
[01:20] <mwe> what the hell
[01:20] <swalchy> hope Ubuntu has drivers for my pico disk
[01:20] <swalchy> hey
[01:21] <sonic> what does that mean phlosten?
[01:21] <swalchy> the green helps distinguish what people are saying
[01:21] <Steveire> There's some issue with connecting to multiple repos with fedora. Is there a similar issue in ubuntu?
[01:21] <Phlosten> sonic, what instructions did you  follow?
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> HedgeMage: What's going on, eh?
[01:21] <docta_v> mwe: well i'm asking...what's your thoughts on the matter? i'm not really digging Konsole
[01:21] <IdleOne> !tell Steveire about repos
[01:21] <Steveire> a bot?
[01:21] <sonic> phlosten , i was to enter " sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases " in the terminal
[01:21] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, he's an OPER
[01:21] <Phlosten> umm, complete +v for channel
[01:22] <Phlosten> broken script?
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: Yeah, but what's he doing?
[01:22] <tristanmike> !ops
[01:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:22] <mwe> docta_v: I like rxvt-unicode. it needs some configuring to look good though. but then it's superfast and you can make it transparant as well if you like that kind of thing
[01:22] <IdleOne> tristanmike, ops cant do anything he is a irc OP he can do what he likes
[01:22] <docta_v> mwe: is it real transparency like iterm
[01:23] <docta_v> mwe: or does it just grab the desktop image
[01:23] <mwe> docta_v: pseudo
[01:23] <swalchy> lmao!
[01:23] <tristanmike> oh, I didn't know
[01:23] <swalchy> Why is it installing something witht he name GIMP?
[01:23] <tristanmike> what's going on?
[01:23] <docta_v> mwe: dang i guess OSX is still the best out there for eye candy
[01:23] <apokryphos> ?
[01:23] <mwe> docta_v: osx is great overall imo
[01:23] <sonic> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:23] <swalchy> what IM program is availiable for Ubuntu?
[01:23] <sonic> that was the full command
[01:23] <swalchy> Something like MSN messenger?
[01:23] <sonic> that returned the error
[01:24] <tspier2> swalchy, aMsn
[01:24] <bur[n] er> swalchy: amsn, gaim, kopete
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: plenty
[01:24] <NickGarvey> ...?
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: gaim
[01:24] <swalchy> which is best?
[01:24] <bur[n] er> swalchy: you trying to start a war? ;)
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: best is subjective
[01:24] <tspier2> swalchy, aMsn is best for MSN.
[01:24] <swalchy> what antivirus/firewalls are there for Ubuntu?
[01:24] <bur[n] er> swalchy: search synaptic, don't be lame ;)
[01:24] <apokryphos> no, I really think Kopete is :P
[01:24] <mwe> swalchy: virus is not really an issue in linux
[01:24] <swalchy> search where?
[01:24] <NickGarvey> swalchy: you run linux, whats antivirus?
[01:24] <sonic> i cant even google search the problem because it wont work :(
[01:24] <sonic> lol
[01:24] <swalchy> xD
[01:25] <bur[n] er> swalchy: synaptic
[01:25] <NickGarvey> swalchy: clamav is the only thing I have heard of
[01:25] <mwe> swalchy: firewall is one of the worlds safest, iptables
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: Also aegis.
[01:25] <Varth> AVG has a Linux version too.
[01:25] <swalchy> really?
[01:25] <void^> antivir as well
[01:25] <swalchy> Good old AVG
[01:25] <bur[n] er> wtf is going on in this channel
[01:25] <mwe> what the heck is going on with all the +vvvv modes?
[01:25] <Varth> What is this guy cluttering up the channel with?
[01:25] <swalchy> he's voicing us all
[01:25] <Varth> Whoever's the op needs to boot him.
[01:26] <apokryphos> Varth: you can't kick freenode staffers
[01:26] <IdleOne> everybody calm down nothing bad is happening
[01:26] <_harm> Anyone know how i can play a certain video file as an alarm?
[01:26] <swalchy> seeing as though he's voicing us all, I think he's a staff member
[01:26] <mwe> swalchy: yeah but I wonder what's the point
[01:26] <jmp_me> Oi
[01:26] <IdleOne> HedgeMage, is a freenode staffer and is just giving everybody +v mode
[01:26] <Phlosten> IdleOne, yes, its not bad...it annoying!
[01:26] <Varth> Oh. I didn't know he was a staffer. Still kind of an IRC noob. -_-;
[01:26] <swalchy> I take it Ubuntu can easily play Wmv and AVI files?
[01:26] <ldan> This place is quite active.  Is there a less frantic place to get some good ubuntu installation help?  Thanks.
[01:26] <mlowe> voice check
[01:26] <Phlosten> swalchy, avi definately
[01:27] <_harm> swalchy once u have the codecs yes
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: With the right codecs.  See the RestrictedFormats wiki page.
[01:27] <swalchy> where the codecs from?
[01:27] <HedgeMage> ack! oops!!!
[01:27] <swalchy> kk
[01:27] <swalchy> thanks
[01:27] <HedgeMage> SORRY!
[01:27] <void^> i think someone will stand in a corner and feel ashashamed soon.
[01:27] <lilo> wOH 8)
[01:27] <Phlosten> !mp3
[01:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format.  Susan is one of our newest staffers
[01:27] <lilo> she's intelligent and conscientious
[01:27] <swalchy> can you de-voice us all? :P
[01:27] <HedgeMage> apokryphos: I am SO SO SORRY
[01:27] <Gau> Synaptic doesn't have snes9x?
[01:27] <lilo> and she just goofed bigtime ;)
[01:27] <apokryphos> =)
[01:27] <liable> :)
[01:27] <HedgeMage> I goofed... meant to voice everyone in #freenode-social and my client switched windows at a bad moment :(
[01:28] <swalchy> can I make a sexists joke? please?
[01:28] <_harm> Anyone know how i can play a certain video file as an alarm?
[01:28] <sonic> can anyone help at all?
[01:28] <lilo> I just want to point out that my big goof early on was to remove every single user from the network 8)
[01:28] <apokryphos> swalchy: shush
[01:28] <IdleOne> swalchy, no!
[01:28] <lilo> global kill
[01:28] <swalchy> awww
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> HedgeMage: All right, I guess we can get a good laugh and forgive you :)  Was crazy confusing for a while there though!
[01:28] <IdleOne> lol lilo
[01:28] <lilo> so this one at least seems a lot less painful 8)
[01:28] <apokryphos> lilo: nice ;-)
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> lilo: Nice.
[01:28] <mwe> HedgeMage: heh
[01:28] <lilo> apokryphos: I think at the time there were like 500 users on the network, total :)
[01:28] <swalchy> ..foomatic-filters?
[01:28] <HedgeMage> swalchy: yes, I deserve a few freebies ;)
[01:28] <mlowe> i onece deleted the entire internet
[01:28] <cva> no worries HedgeMage
[01:28] <liable> HedgeMage: no harm done.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ah ty was wondering what happened
[01:28] <lilo> apokryphos: so it was even comparable 8)
[01:28] <lilo> I wasn't even a newbie, actually
[01:29] <lilo> but it was one of my best early mistakes 8)
[01:29] <TruckerMan> swalchy, ok, i looked at the back of the card and i think i got it narrowed down on the list, now what? err what are YOU gonna do at least?  just download and unzip that driver file?
[01:29] <jmp_me> this moment is very 1990 IRC
[01:29] <Seveas> woah, hedgemage gone crazy?
[01:29] <Cooner750> I cant seem to get ASLA working... Is there a way to start it?
[01:29] <jmp_me> IRC!
[01:29] <apokryphos> mass-options are nice, but of course have to come with these inevitabilities at some time or other ;-)
[01:29] <lilo> so again, on behalf of Peer-Directed Projects Center and freenode, I'd like to thank everyone for using the network, and apologize most sincerely on behalf of one of our newest staffers :)
[01:29] <Cooner750> i'm using ESD but I prefer ALSA
[01:29] <Seveas> !lart HedgeMage
[01:29] <mlowe> Cooner750,  alsaconf
[01:30] <gnomefreak> lilo: its all good no harm done ;)
[01:30] <sonic> argh, i'm doomed
[01:30] <sonic> i've managed to solve the problem a little bit
[01:30] <spazzz> YAY!!! I FIXED IT!!! I RULE!!! YEA *Dances*
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> !+test
[01:30] <ubotu> Passed.
[01:30] <sonic> by disabling it in firefox
[01:30] <gnomefreak> ok back to reading
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> The bot's back!  Yay!!!
[01:30] <sonic> but i still cant connect to messenger etc
[01:30] <hyphenated> HedgeMage: which client are you using? I'll try to avoid it ;-)
[01:30] <tristanmike> !lart tonyyarusso
[01:30] <sonic> and it took me 10 attempts to connect to here
[01:30] <ChrisKnight> hey baby, what's your size?
[01:31] <ChrisKnight> how big are you penis wise?
[01:31] <mwe> how can you get the numeric char code for a character?
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike: I think it only allows lart in offtopic.
[01:31] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:31] <hyphenated> mwe: man ascii, and look it up?
[01:31] <mwe> hyphenated: it utf-8
[01:31] <Seveas> apokryphos, if your penis size is as good as your irc speed ... ;)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> ok thats it no more reading i miss all the strange stuff
[01:32] <matsur> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/local/firefox/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so [/opt/local/firefox/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]  How do I solve firefox crapping out like that?
[01:32] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, check out the log that will be posted lol
[01:32] <ldan> During the beginning of an installation what is the meaning of: [  88.318240]  kernel panic - not syncing -- Aieeelling interrupt handler   (things just freeze up at that point)
[01:32] <TruckerMan> does breezy ubuntu come with ndiswrapper prepackaged?
[01:33] <swalchy> quick Q
[01:33] <swalchy> how does one uupdate drivers in Ubuntu?
[01:33] <Cooner750> I installed the w32codecs and mplayer plugin still wont play embedded windows media files. I can hear the sound fine but it just says "playing" but there is no video
[01:33] <mwe> ldan: it means there is a serious bug
[01:33] <Seveas> ldan, that you have a problem
[01:33] <NsOmNiAc> TruckerMan no but you can install it through synaptic
[01:33] <Seveas> ldan, make a picture of it and post it on http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[01:33] <swalchy> what's synaptic?
[01:33] <tristanmike> Cooner750: you installed "mozilla-mplayer" ?
[01:33] <scorchsaber> swalchy: It's a package manager
[01:33] <hyphenated> mwe: echo thatchar | od
[01:33] <kaliumfredrik> swalchy: a tool that helps you install new packages
[01:33] <TruckerMan> NsOmNiAc ok, with synaptic off the install disk?  i cant get online with ubuntu yet
[01:34] <apokryphos> swalchy: /msg ubotu synaptic for more information
[01:34] <scorchsaber> swalchy: It let's you download a bunch of programs and libraries
[01:34] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh it's on there Trucker
[01:34] <swalchy> does that come auto with ubuntu or hav eto be installed manually?
[01:34] <TruckerMan> sweet
[01:34] <scorchsaber> swalchy: It's there already
[01:34] <swalchy> excellent
[01:34] <kaliumfredrik> swalchy: (a package is a program)
[01:34] <TruckerMan> yeah, its there
[01:34] <mwe> hyphenated: great. od. didn't know that one
[01:34] <swalchy> thats great
[01:34] <swalchy> excuse my noobish questions... I'm a noob :P
[01:34] <Cooner750> Yes. It loads the same in Firefox 1.5. When I try to open a WMV file in Mplayer itself it says "Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format (and then a ## here)"
[01:35] <hyphenated> mwe: you might want to change the default output format to hex or whatever
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: No problem, we all were once too!
[01:35] <scorchsaber> swalchy: Don't worry. Don't get addicted to downloads, like me :)
[01:35] <mwe> yeah
[01:35] <TruckerMan> ubuntu is phat so far, just no wireless card prob for this laptop...almost like redhat and winmodems back in the day
[01:35] <swalchy> :)
[01:35] <kaliumfredrik> swalchy: It will also help you upgrade your software as newer versions become available and help you to neatly remove software you nolonger want
[01:35] <NickGarvey> my computer will randomly put my /home filesystem into read only, altohugh mount says differently, why is this?
[01:35] <scorchsaber> I wan't ever a noob
[01:35] <scorchsaber> I was born this way
[01:35] <NsOmNiAc> TruckerMan check it
[01:35] <NsOmNiAc> !wireless
[01:35] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:36] <NickGarvey> touch: cannot touch `test': Read-only file system
[01:36] <scorchsaber> swalchy: You'll get an update notification in the form of a red dot at the top-right
[01:36] <swalchy> will ubuntu automatically detec my pico disk?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> swalchy: Edit: Everyone but scorchsaber was new once.  scorchsaber on the other hand is from another planet, where they play Linux podcasts to their unborn children.
[01:36] <NickGarvey> I am in my home directory..
[01:36] <scorchsaber> yes
[01:36] <Seveas> NickGarvey, check your syslog, probable errors are occuring
[01:36] <hyphenated> NickGarvey: because it had errors and your fstab says "errors=remount-ro"
[01:36] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:36] <sonic> ok
[01:36] <sonic> i have found a solution
[01:36] <scorchsaber> Not only that, but they give you ultra-real violent shooters involving Bill Gates
[01:36] <sonic> if anyone can help
[01:37] <sonic> how can I edit a file
[01:37] <sonic> in a text editor
[01:37] <sonic> that has root permisions?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> sonic: sudo gedit /path/to/file
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Open it with sudo / gksudo.
[01:37] <kaliumfredrik> sudo emacs <thefile>
[01:37] <swalchy> whats this "sudo" thing I keep seeing people post?
[01:37] <scorchsaber> sonic: Open up a terminal and go to the folder, than type sudo gedit (Filename)
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> !sudo
[01:37] <ubotu> well, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:37] <gnomefreak> sudo <editor of choice
[01:37] <kaliumfredrik> makes you run stuff as root
[01:37] <TruckerMan> ok, cewl, i think i got enough info to reboot into ubu, appreciate your helps...i'll be sure to let yall stay outta the ditch next time i see ya on the highway
[01:37] <swalchy> righty
[01:37] <sonic> thanks guys
[01:37] <sonic> but it wont work for me
[01:37] <mcphail> Sorry to sound stupid: why are there "+" signs in front of the names on irssi?
[01:37] <scorchsaber> np sonic
[01:38] <sonic> in the terminal
[01:38] <sonic> it gives me this error
[01:38] <gnomefreak> mcphail: someone gave us vioce
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> mcphail: Massive voicing thing earlier.  You can just ignore them.
[01:38] <sonic> (gedit:6766): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_pointer_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[01:38] <sonic> (gedit:6766): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_keyboard_ungrab: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[01:38] <jmp_me> mcphail: chanmodes. google for "irc rfc"
[01:38] <sonic> thats why i can only browse to the location
[01:38] <Stealth_> hey, quik question, can i install brezy and dapper together, in different partitions but using the same HOME partition?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sonic: it still opened?
[01:38] <sonic> i can only open it by browsing to it
[01:39] <sonic> if i try with the terminal, i just get that error
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sonic: in terminal type sudo gedit /path/to/file
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sonic: that should open it without errors
[01:39] <tspier2> What codec do I need to play mpg's in Totem?
[01:39] <sonic> thats what i'm trying :(
[01:39] <sonic> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:39] <scorchsaber> you need ffmpeg, I think, tspier
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tspier2 about restricted
[01:39] <sonic> it just gives me that error
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> Stealth_: You can.
[01:40] <scorchsaber> but ffmpeg doesn't work for me. You can get gxine, which uses the xine library
[01:40] <kaliumfredrik> tspier2: I think totem-exine play them by default... However, check the ubutnu wiki for info on codecs.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> sonic: try gksudo gedit than
[01:40] <scorchsaber> sonic: Can you open other files with Gedit?
[01:41] <kaliumfredrik> yes
[01:41] <Stealth_> alright tony, turns out dapper broke the printer here, so id like to reinstall breezy alongside it
[01:41] <sonic> i've never tried
[01:41] <sonic> i will try just now
[01:41] <gabbah_> i'm on dapper.. i have ticked all the boxes in repositories list in synaptic. That should gimme access to everything, but it still doesn't find "flashplayer-mozilla" or "java-package"..?
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Stealth_: Ah.  Yeah, should be good, just don't share the actual installation partition of course and you'll be fine.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: for dapper support please join #ubuntu+!
[01:41] <kaliumfredrik> sonic: since you are a bit of a newbie you should probably use gedit rather than emacs.
[01:41] <Stealth_> tony: ok thx
[01:41] <sonic> the only reason why i'm doing it though, is to disable ipv6
[01:42] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: you need universe and multiverse enabled
[01:42] <sonic> because i cant really connect to any web pages
[01:42] <mwe> gabbah_: I think it's flashplugin-nonfree
[01:42] <gnomefreak> !ipv6
[01:42] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:42] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, well i think they are.. since all the boxes are ticked?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: sudo apt-get install mplayer-arch    arch being whatever your on i386 i586 so on and so forth
[01:43] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, no hit on flashplugin either..
[01:43] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[01:43] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:43] <mwe> gabbah_: java-package shows up here. did you update afterwards?
[01:43] <sonic> i tried it with sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:43] <sonic> it just says
[01:43] <sonic> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:43] <sonic> is there a way of opening it with root permissions in the gui?
[01:43] <mwe> sonic: don't use sudo with gui apps
[01:44] <gabbah_> mwe, i used synaptic.. and pressed reload yes
[01:44] <mwe> !gksudo
[01:44] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> sonic: try it with gksudo instead of sudo
[01:44] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, i already have mplayer?
[01:44] <Seveas> sonic, do it as normal user, not as root
[01:44] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: what does uname -r say when you type int in terminal
[01:45] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, 2.6.15-19-386
[01:45] <sonic> wow
[01:45] <sonic> both your advice worked
[01:45] <sonic> !
[01:45] <ubotu> sonic: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:45] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: in terminal type sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[01:45] <Cooner750> I once read somewhere about how to change the ugly windows-like buttons in firefox to ones that look like Gnome.
[01:45] <Cooner750> but I forget where I read about it at
[01:45] <sonic> i logged back into the terminal as normal user
[01:45] <sonic> and used gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:45] <sonic> so it both worked
[01:45] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, will that install flash for me??
[01:45] <sonic> thanks alot guys!
[01:45] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: also dapper is in #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: no that will install mplayer for you
[01:46] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, yes i know.. but you usually get more answers here :P
[01:46] <gnomefreak> gabbah_: please join there ill help you there
[01:46] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, well i asked for flash and java, not mplayer. i already have mplayer...
[01:46] <gabbah_> gnomefreak, ok
[01:46] <sonic> wow
[01:47] <sonic> messenger even connects now
[01:47] <jbroome> wait, that's good?
[01:48] <sonic> can anyone recommend a decent client for msn messenger?
[01:48] <Seveas> sonic, gaim 2.0
[01:48] <Cooner750> I still can't get mplayer to work right
[01:48] <sonic> gaim doesnt seem to like my gmail account for some reason though
[01:48] <sonic> i use that as my .net passport
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> sonic: What's it do?
[01:49] <sonic> handshakes, gets to "authentication" and then disconnects
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> sonic: How many times have you tried it?  Sometimes MSN is just dumb like that.
[01:50] <fiendskull9> hey
[01:50] <fiendskull9> if i pause a download in firefox, and shut down, and turn it on tommorow, will i be able to continue the download? or will it be deleted by shutdown
[01:50] <sonic> its constantly happening
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> sonic: And you're absolutely sure about the account and password?
[01:51] <jax> jax0m@mantis:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 u-icea2.iso IceAge/
[01:51] <jax> Password:
[01:51] <jax> mount: Not a directory
[01:51] <jax> help?
[01:51] <sonic> yeah
[01:51] <sonic> double checked a good few times
[01:51] <Seveas> jax, does the IceAge dir exist on your desktop?
[01:51] <jax> it's impossible for me to mount an iso... even though i've done it before, with the same exact commands, and it worked.
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Very curious.  Not sure what the issue is, but you might consider filing a bug.
[01:51] <jax> Seveas, of course.
[01:51] <jax> Ic[tab]
[01:51] <sonic> yeah i think i will do
[01:52] <Seveas> jax, I've seen this stupid non-descriptive error once and it meant that the iso was busted
[01:52] <jax> ahhhhhhh
[01:52] <sonic> are there any other clients i can try at the moment just to be certain?
[01:52] <jax> Seveas, that would make a lot of sense.
[01:52] <jax> <3
[01:52] <Seveas> jax, it took me and 3 ubuntu developers about an hour to find out
[01:52] <sonic> it could still be a problem with my connection i guess
[01:52] <jax> haha
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Sure.  Just do an apt-cache search msn and there should be a number of them.
[01:52] <hyphenated> jax: you're not specifying a loop device..
[01:52] <jax> hyphenated, don't need to.
[01:52] <amphi> fiendskull9: dunno; IMHO wget is better for downloading stuff than a web browser
[01:53] <Seveas> hyphenated, no need to with -o loop
[01:53] <sonic> thanks tony =)
[01:53] <jax> and even if i do specify i get the same error.
[01:53] <jax> loop automatically goes to /dev/loop0
[01:53] <jax> jax0m@mantis:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep loop
[01:53] <jax> loop                   15752  0
[01:53] <hyphenated> it'll go to the first one that isn't being used
[01:53] <jax> jax0m@mantis:~/Desktop$ ls /dev/lo
[01:53] <jax> log    loop/  loop0  loop1  loop2  loop3  loop4  loop5  loop6  loop7
[01:54] <jtrask> evening all -- quick question
[01:54] <swalchy> it's been installing packages for over 40 mins now
[01:54] <jito> good night
[01:54] <jtrask> my printer seems to have the wrong postscript setting... how would i change that?
[01:55] <swalchy> I hate the guy who said it only took 15 mins lol
[01:55] <fiendskull9> amphi, well its a large file, and i just realized i have to install slack tonight before 9:30 (by putting in a new harddrive, etc.) and i dont wanna end my 53% done dl of a 900mb file. and its got an hour left.
[01:55] <jito> i need a favor
[01:55] <hyphenated> jax: run it in verbose mode
[01:55] <jito> how install command MAKE in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <jax> i already deleted the iso.
[01:55] <bimberi> jito, install build-essential
[01:55] <amphi> fiendskull9: sorry, I've never used ff to d/l anything other than the odd extension
[01:55] <sonic> lol
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> jito: Install build-essential
[01:55] <jax> what else would use a loop device?
[01:55] <sonic> one more question guys if you dont mind
[01:56] <sonic> where would I do an apt-cache search?
[01:56] <jax> sonic, what do you mean? at the command line
[01:56] <bimberi> sonic: in a terminal
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> sonic: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[01:56] <jax> apt-cache search wifi | grep radar
[01:56] <hyphenated> jax: not many things would.
[01:56] <amphi> jax: encrypted filesystem-in-a-file is one
[01:56] <sonic> ahhh
[01:56] <bimberi> sonic: the Synaptic search is good too
[01:56] <jax> amphi, ah
[01:57] <amphi> jax: handy for qemu disk image partitions too on occasion
[01:57] <jax> hmm
[01:57] <boman^> Hi, I have a problem... I'm using dapper drake and now after I've installed it I hear that my sata-disks are turning them self off after some time and then when I try to access them again I hear them spin up again, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:58] <_jason_> boman^: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[01:58] <boman^> Aah, just read the topic... sru.
[01:58] <boman^> sry*
[01:59] <Noraa> Hi everyone, I have a question about installing ubuntu. I've got the 5.10 release. Do I just burn the rared file to a cd with nero (burn iso) and  then pop it in to install? Also, I'm only trying it for now so can I intall it on my second harddrive?
[01:59] <Stargazers> Hi. What might be problem with ATI 9600 & Xorg 6.8: It says "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:59] <jito> bimberi, build-essential??? were? in cd?
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> jito: It is on the CD, yes.  Or online.
[01:59] <Supaplex> how can I run x86 and mac on the same root ext3fs?
[02:00] <enursha> Building from tar, could some ponit me in the direct of a guide, maybe expaining how to configre options aswell
[02:00] <bimberi> jito: 'sudo apititude install build-essential'  -  it's on the CD or from repos
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell enursha about compile
[02:00] <_jason> enursha: ./configure --help and the README and INSTALL files will help you with configure options
[02:00] <sonic> i just downloaded a file with the extention "deb"
[02:00] <sonic> msn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[02:00] <sonic> it says the archive is not supported
[02:00] <Seveas> !info amsn
[02:01] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[02:01] <enursha> _jason, cheers
[02:01] <kbrooks> Seveas: 0.95 > 0.94\
[02:01] <Seveas> sonic, do you have a specific reason to want that version?
[02:01] <sonic> i was just browsing for a messenger client
[02:01] <sonic> amsn was the first link
[02:01] <sonic> i chose the ubuntu package
[02:02] <Seveas> sonic, install it via apt-get or synaptic
[02:02] <enursha> _jason, you know where a could get a good package of sounds, new mail, message all that guff?
[02:02] <Seveas> you don't need to manually download things
[02:02] <jito> ok, i finded, but were install the file?
[02:02] <jax> sonic: apt-cache search msn | grep messenger
[02:02] <jax> sonic: apt-get install name-of-package
[02:02] <Stargazers> Anyone any ideas?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install amsn
[02:02] <Stargazers> What might be reason
[02:02] <sonic> lol
[02:02] <sonic> i'm confused
[02:02] <_jason> enursha: I don't about sounds.  What do you mean by ``new mail'' and ``message'' ?
[02:02] <sonic> do i type that into the terminal
[02:02] <sonic> ?
[02:03] <jax> sonic, yes.
[02:03] <mcquaid> i saw it in the forums before but can't find it now, anyone know where to find a svg of the ubuntu logo?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> sonic: sudo apt-get install amsn   for amsn
[02:03] <gnomefreak> sonic: yep
[02:03] <Seveas> mcquaid, UbuntuArtwork page on the wiki
[02:03] <kevin> Greetings, I am using breezy and can't do an apt-get update, it keeps giving 404 errors or "couldn't stat source package list", any ideas?
[02:03] <sonic> thank you! I will try it
[02:03] <mcquaid> Seveas, thx
[02:03] <_jason> enursha: oh did you mean sounds for new mail and messages?
[02:03] <enursha> _jason, yeah
[02:03] <Seveas> kevin, sources.list on the pastebin please
[02:03] <gnomefreak> kevin: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[02:03] <_jason> enursha: heh, no I don't, sorry :)
[02:03] <sonic> couldnt find package =<
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !info amsn
[02:04] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[02:04] <gnomefreak> sonic:  you need to enable universe
[02:04] <gnomefreak> repo*
[02:04] <sonic> how do I go about that mate/
[02:04] <kbrooks> erm
[02:04] <Seveas> !tell sonic about universe
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sonic about universe
[02:04] <_jason> enursha: gnome-look.org has some system sound stuff, but I've never used them
[02:04] <kbrooks> nalioth & Seveas:
[02:04] <kbrooks> what are you doing?
[02:04] <kevin> um dumb question, can you tell me where pastebin is?
[02:04] <Seveas> !tell kevin about pastebin
[02:04] <nalioth> !paste
[02:04] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:04] <_jason> kevin: /topic
[02:05] <kbrooks> nalioth & Seveas: what are you doing?
[02:05] <enursha> _jason, cheers, ill have a look
[02:05] <Seveas> kbrooks, undoing HedgeMage's mistake
[02:05] <kevin> ok, thanks, very dumb question ;)
[02:05] <kbrooks> Seveas: What mistake?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> kevin: only dumb questions is one not asked
[02:05] <Seveas> kbrooks, please come to #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic things
[02:05] <nalioth> kbrooks: you are offtopic, sir.
[02:06] <Supaplex> why is setserial not on the breezy(5.1) live cd? it makes pppconfig and a handfull of others quite useless.
[02:07] <tspier2> Why so much devoiceage?
[02:07] <Seveas> tspier2, all the voiceage was an accident
[02:08] <Supaplex> because it's undernet in here!
[02:08] <jax> bbl
[02:08] <jito> tanks bimberi and tonyyarusso....
[02:08] <kbrooks> tspier2: someone made a mistake
[02:08] <jax> thanks again for the help Seveas.
[02:08] <alex_> Hi, I dont seem to be able to get 32bit colour using i830 xorg driver..
[02:08] <kevin> Ok, posted my problem to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11488
[02:10] <IdleOne> nalioth, may I msg you a minute?
[02:10] <Xenguy> test
[02:10] <nalioth> IdleOne: sure go ahead
[02:10] <Seveas> Xenguy, failed ;)
[02:10] <Xenguy> mwaha
[02:12] <cnkrtdsko> hey everyone. im having problems with ubuntu. i cant get my wireless working. anyone have any ideas? its a D-Link
[02:12] <IdleOne> !wifi
[02:12] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:12] <tristanmike> kevin: get out of root and run again...
[02:13] <tristanmike> kevin: you can't use "sudo" while your in a "root" account
[02:13] <Seveas> "get out of root" sounds like someone is sucking up to the admin ;)
[02:13] <tristanmike> Seveas: .....who me....? :p
[02:14] <kevin> when I run it out of root (with sudo) I get the exact same message. The reason I tried under root in the first place was because it wasn't working
[02:14] <gnomefreak> kevin: define root please
[02:15] <gnomefreak> kevin: you using su or sudo -i?
[02:15] <kevin> i.e. I did sudo /bin/bash to get into root
[02:15] <Seveas> kevin, urgh bad!
[02:15] <gnomefreak> or that way (the hard way)
[02:15] <Seveas> kevin, if you want a root shell: use sudo -i
[02:15] <Supaplex> sudo su -
[02:16] <kevin> ok thanks, don't really need root though, was just trying to see if it would solve my prob, and it didn't
[02:16] <_jason> kevin: can you ping archive.ubuntu.com on the box?
[02:16] <tristanmike> !tell kevin about root
[02:16] <kevin> ping is not working
[02:17] <Jiv001> hi
[02:17] <kevin> 100% packet loss
[02:17] <gnomefreak> kevin: are you using that pc atm
[02:17] <kevin> yes
[02:17] <Jiv001> how ubuntu differ fom debian
[02:17] <gnomefreak> kevin: in here chatting with us on that pc?
[02:17] <Seveas> !tell Jiv001 about debian
[02:17] <kevin> gnomefreak, that is correct
[02:17] <gnomefreak> yuck
[02:17] <gnomefreak> kevin: can you ping www.google.com?
[02:18] <bockman> could someone help me remove xchat 2.6? i installed it from backports, and when i 'apt-get remove xchat' it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. how do i fix this?
[02:18] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: some ISP's block pings out completely, such as mine, i get 100% packet loss too, unless I ping *their* server
[02:18] <gnomefreak> bockman: thats fine
[02:18] <kevin> gnomefreak, still 100% packet loss
[02:18] <jvai> kevin.. check your network icon, some tymes u have 2 toggle btween "eth0" & "eth1".. & if u have firestarter check that
[02:18] <bockman> gnomefreak, that's fine?! isn't ubuntu-desktop important
[02:18] <gnomefreak> bockman: if you no
[02:18] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[02:19] <tristanmike> bockman: that is a metapackage
[02:19] <bockman> oh alright
[02:19] <bimberi> bockman: remove xchat and ubuntu-desktop, change repos to disable backports, aptitude update, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[02:19] <kevin> I am setting this up in a lab, and go through a firewall
[02:19] <bockman> ok
[02:19] <bockman> thanks
[02:19] <cacahueta> apt-get install
[02:19] <jvai> kevin.. no firestartr firewall on the box?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> kevin: i would say check your firewall settings
[02:20] <cacahueta> apt-cache search paquete
[02:20] <tristanmike> kevin: are you sure your ISP allows pings..? mine does not, it took me 2 months of troublshooting when I got fed up and called them, they informed me of this unfortunate fact
[02:21] <jvai> i know my box couldnt go out thru the coporate firewall, till i install'd squidfir
[02:22] <jvai> I had to configure firestarter also
[02:22] <rofl-waffle> Anybody got any suggestions on a good floppy based distro for an ancient laptop?
[02:22] <nalioth> rofl-waffle: peanut linux?
[02:22] <kevin> it looks like ping is disabled
[02:22] <kevin> tried on a windows box too
[02:22] <jvai> ??
[02:23] <jvai> the firewall is dropping the packets... try *sudo tcpdump* so u can @least see what's goin on
[02:23] <jvai> tcpdump on the ubuntu box
[02:24] <joelbryan> hi, how do I change the default applications that handle protocol in firefox, like, irc://
[02:25] <kevin> Also, to use firefox, I have to put put the proxy and port for the firewall
[02:25] <jvai> kevin - sudo tcpdump -vv
[02:25] <_jason> joelbryan: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[02:25] <Centaur5> How do I find out if my installed kernel has SMP mode compiled for the core duo cpu?
[02:25] <kevin> jvai I'm getting a bunch of stuff on my screen, but don't know what it means
[02:26] <hanasaki> hi aLL  what is a good pci   card that does raid 5 with SATA 300... and cheap!
[02:26] <jvai> lol.. kevin clik on the right clik the network monitor, to see your ip addy, then follow what it does
[02:27] <Syco54645> can anyone help me with my palm
[02:27] <polpak> !anyone
[02:27] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:27] <jvai> kevin, r u in here thru ubuntu? it should b pickin this traffic up
[02:28] <abuchbinder> If I have a modified version of xpad.c, is there a tool to compile it into a kernel module?
[02:28] <Syco54645> how much more specific would you like my question to be
[02:28] <kevin> jvai, yes I am, it is picking up lots of traffic
[02:28] <Syco54645> i need help with my palm pilot in linux
[02:28] <hanasaki> ubotu: mine didnt :)
[02:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hanasaki
[02:28] <jvai> if so, then the issue id firefox
[02:28] <polpak> Syco54645, define "help with my palm pilot"
[02:28] <kevin> jvai, looks like my printer and other clients too
[02:28] <jvai> snap
[02:29] <hanasaki> what does ubuntu have for java packages? they sun or backdown?
[02:29] <polpak> !java
[02:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:29] <Syco54645> polpak: it is recognized by kpilot, but i cannot transfer anything to or from it (applications or settings)
[02:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell hanasaki about java
[02:29] <kevin> jvai, it keeps saying "try increasing snap length"
[02:29] <hanasaki> thanks
[02:29] <abuchbinder> I grabbed the kernel sources, but all I can find are tutorials about building an entire kernel. I just want to patch one module.
[02:30] <jvai> yea, that's sounds like the firewall, i see that @ work
[02:30] <polpak> Syco54645, I don't have any experience with kpilot, sorry
[02:30] <hanasaki> oh nice.. 1.5 is there
[02:30] <polpak> Syco54645, perhaps someone else will
[02:30] <Cooner750> What to do? I have Mozilla Mplayer working in Firefox 1.5 and the w32 codecs installed but when it loads and plays a embedded WMV file I can hear the audio but it stays at the screen saying "Playing..."
[02:30] <Syco54645> polpak: well i could care less which software i use, i just want to get it working
[02:31] <_jason> Cooner750: link to the file?
[02:31] <kevin> I will close this and try apt-get again and see what happens with tcpdump
[02:31] <nalioth> Cooner750: it's best to d/l the wmv and play it locally (with a dedicated media player)
[02:31] <Cooner750> The file is the van prank video on ebaumsworld, URL http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/vanprank.wmv
[02:31] <jvai> kevin on firefox - clik *edit -preferences- when the box pops up clik general
[02:31] <Cooner750> When I try to play it in MPlayer itself I get a codec error
[02:31] <jvai> ok
[02:31] <hanasaki> hmm debian make-jpkg doenst support 1.5 jdk yet
[02:31] <polpak> Syco54645, have you read the Palm Howto?
[02:31] <tritium> hanasaki: yes it does
[02:31] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:32] <orbin> nalioth: OOC, what's w/ muting all these d people?
[02:32] <kevin> jvai, ok, I already have my proxy and port set properly if that is what you mean
[02:32] <hanasaki> tritium: in etch? or sid? or sarge?
[02:32] <nalioth> orbin: nobody is being muted
[02:32] <jvai> ok
[02:32] <Syco54645> polpak: from ubuntu?  no i have not
[02:32] <hanasaki> tritium: i treid and it said not supported
[02:32] <jvai> what happened w/ apt get?
[02:32] <tritium> hanasaki: oh, sorry.  my bad.  I thought you meant ubuntu
[02:32] <polpak> Syco54645, it's the general linux one.. but
[02:32] <amphi> kevin: where?
[02:32] <hanasaki> hehe
[02:32] <polpak> !tell Syco54645 about palm
[02:32] <kevin> amphi, in firefox
[02:32] <hanasaki> sometimes i wish i could aptget from etch to ubuntu
[02:33] <amphi> kevin: apt should obey the HTTP_PROXY env var
[02:33] <kevin> jvai, apt-get does: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11488
[02:33] <_jason> Cooner750: haha that is funny, it doesn't play for you here http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/vanprank.html  ?
[02:33] <orbin> nalioth: may i ask what "removes voice from" means then?
[02:33] <kevin> amphi, how do I check/set that?
[02:33] <tritium> kevin: it does.
[02:33] <jvai> hmm, for the browser??
[02:33] <jvai> why?
[02:33] <Cooner750> no.
[02:33] <nalioth> orbin: if the channel is set +m (moderated) then a user needs +v to be able to speak
[02:33] <jvai> <-- stumpt
[02:33] <adventchild> !chroot
[02:33] <ubotu> somebody said chroot was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:33] <Syco54645> polpak: yes i have read that.  the palm beeps when i sync it up even, just nothing is transferred
[02:33] <amphi> kevin: export HTTP_PROXY=<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:33] <hanasaki> not trying to starta  war.. just looking for facts... someone told me that ubuntu has far less packages than debian and debian is far more stable... waht are the facts? where can i read/research?
[02:33] <kevin> jvai, can't connect to web without it in browser
[02:33] <tritium> kevin: in fact, if you setup gnome's http proxy, sudo apt-get update will automatically know the http_proxy env var
[02:33] <Cooner750> I dont know what the deal is. It works on my other Ubuntu ox
[02:33] <Cooner750> box
[02:34] <polpak> hanasaki, neither is really true...
[02:34] <polpak> hanasaki, most people aren't even using debian "stable" cause it's very out of date
[02:34] <kevin> amphi, I need a proxy and port, do I just add :port after the proxy
[02:35] <Seveas> hanasaki, ubuntu has all packages from debian plus several other sources
[02:35] <_jason> Cooner750: does 'mplayer http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/vanprank.wmv' work?
[02:35] <amphi> kevin: sounds reasonable
[02:35] <_jason> Cooner750: (in a terminal)
[02:36] <hanasaki> thanks guys
[02:36] <polpak> you guys planning to go +m or something?
[02:36] <Seveas> polpak, no
[02:36] <jvai> oooo kevin, then.. clik *system-preferences- proxy settings* set it to *automatically find proxy settings*
[02:36] <jvai> network proxy
[02:37] <adventchild> would getting the decoder for Totem be the same as playing streaming video from internet?
[02:37] <abuchbinder> I replaced the xpad.c in an Ubuntu kernel source, but I'm not sure how to compile it. 'make xpad' gives an error.
[02:37] <adventchild> at the restricted formats page?
[02:37] <Cooner750> I did sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and it updated. Now it dosent show a codec error but causes MPlayer to fatally crash
[02:37] <hanasaki> polpak:  Seveas so what are the good reasons to use ubun over deb and visa versa?
[02:37] <abuchbinder> Does anyone here have familiarity with compiling individual kernel modules?
[02:37] <Seveas> hanasaki, ubuntu has way more recent packages
[02:37] <_jason> Cooner750: with that video or with any video?
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, which is a good thing for hardware support
[02:38] <_Marek_> hi all
[02:38] <hanasaki> Seveas: ya
[02:38] <_Marek_> anyone knows the default password for root in dapper drake?
[02:38] <polpak> hanasaki, I prefer ubuntu because it's designed specifically for desktop use, meaning most things I want to have work out of the box, and it's got very up to date packages which allow me all the features I need
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, and a fixed release schedule (although for dapper it slipped) is a major advantage
[02:38] <bimberi> _Marek_: there isn't one
[02:38] <_Marek_> i just installed it, and it didn't ask me during install
[02:38] <Cooner750> None. Just a grey box. Now in the web browser it plays audio for about a second with a grey screen as video and then says "Stopped."
[02:38] <bimberi> !tell _Marek_ about root
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, plus real security support
[02:38] <hanasaki> how bad a slip? why
[02:38] <Seveas> hanasaki, 6 weeks for extra polish
[02:38] <_jason> Cooner750: did you try from the terminal?
[02:38] <hanasaki> hmm thought deb had a rep for being great on security
[02:38] <_Marek_> bimberi, ah, so just hitting enter will do?
[02:39] <Seveas> hanasaki, well...
[02:39] <VR_> hey all, can i install xgl/compiz even if i only have on-board video?
[02:39] <orbin> adventchild: the streaming instructions tell you how to install a browser plugin for video
[02:39] <VR_> and how come i'm voiced?
[02:39] <VR_> bahah
[02:39] <bimberi> _Marek_: no, root has no p/w so you can't log into it, you use sudo - check that wikipage
[02:39] <polpak> hanasaki, the next version of ubuntu was delayed because they're planning to provide commercial support for 3 years and want to give it all the finishing touches they can
[02:39] <Seveas> hanasaki, debian-security is not the fastest to put it mildly
[02:39] <hanasaki> funny.. apt-cache search ubuntu on debian shows some ported stuff hehe
[02:39] <orbin> adventchild: you can open streamed media directly via totem (or any other player) if you wish
[02:39] <Cooner750> it just sits there with a > and a flashing text cursor..
[02:39] <hanasaki> ah.. dam.. is ubuntu oging the way of rh/
[02:39] <Euler> Hello all.   Any idea why I don't have "/usr/include/GL/gl.h"?
[02:39] <_jason> Cooner750: don't put the quotes
[02:39] <orbin> adventchild: it's just sometimes easier to click on a link and have it open in the browser
[02:39] <Seveas> hanasaki, no - never
[02:39] <_Marek_> bimberi, ah, weird, but nice :)
[02:39] <adventchild> orbin: how would i get the decoders for playing downloaded .mov files in Totem?
[02:40] <hanasaki> Seveas: ! coiol
[02:40] <hanasaki> cool
[02:40] <polpak> hanasaki, I'm not even sure what that means...
[02:40] <hanasaki> hmm so then.. i run some servers.. i should stick w/ deb?
[02:40] <adventchild> orbin: i am looking at the restricted forms page right now...
[02:40] <bimberi> _Marek_: i was a root login and su user before ubuntu, now i feel guilty using it on the Unix machines at work :)
[02:40] <orbin> adventchild: w32codecs covers them
[02:40] <kevin> so sudo export does not work?
[02:40] <abuchbinder> Euler: do you have libgl1-mesa-dev installed?
[02:40] <Seveas> if you run debian now and are pleased with it - stick to debian
[02:40] <adventchild> orbin: ok...  tyvm
[02:41] <Seveas> same goes for red hat, or even windows
[02:41] <Seveas> if you are looking for an alternative for Debian, Ubuntu is a good choice
[02:41] <swalchy> wow, it installed my picodisk in like, 5 seconds
[02:41] <Euler> abuchbinder, no I don't.  Thanks, that is probably the problem.
[02:41] <hanasaki> Seveas: i would like lvoe supported newer packages
[02:41] <Seveas> hanasaki, then give Ubuntu a shot
[02:41] <adventchild> orbin: i got it working...  thanks alot
[02:41] <hanasaki> i ran it.. liked it.. but had some issues w/ the nvidia drivers
[02:41] <orbin> adventchild: yw
[02:41] <Seveas> sarge  dapper may even be a supported upgrade
[02:42] <polpak> hanasaki, ?? nvidia is pretty well supported
[02:42] <Cooner750> It says this and then sits there at the last line with the flashing text cursor http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11490
[02:42] <polpak> hanasaki, what issues?
[02:42] <adventchild> orbin: but there is no audio playing...  just the video...
[02:42] <hanasaki> can you aptget the nv stuff? i ended up geting the nv installer from their site and just running it :(
[02:42] <polpak> hanasaki, yes
[02:42] <carthik_away> will xgl compiz work on matrox video cards?
[02:42] <orbin> adventchild: w/ the mov file?
[02:42] <polpak> !tell hanasaki about nvidia
[02:42] <Seveas> hanasaki, it's evein installed by default
[02:42] <adventchild> orbin: yes
[02:42] <Seveas> read what ubotu just sent
[02:43] <hanasaki> brb
[02:43] <orbin> adventchild: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:43] <adventchild> orbin: yes
[02:43] <orbin> adventchild: are you using totem-xine?
[02:44] <adventchild> orbin: no...  just totem...  i downloaded xine but it would not install
[02:44] <orbin> adventchild: w32codecs works better w/ totem-xine
[02:44] <kevin> tried setting apt-get by setting both environment and gnome http proxy, still doesn't work
[02:44] <polpak> adventchild, totem-xine isn't the same as xine
[02:44] <_jason> Cooner750: try to say my name at the beginning or else I'm gonna miss what you say, put 'ls /usr/lib/win32/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please and give me a link?
[02:44] <zezu> what type of onboard graphics does an intel 865 have on it ?
[02:44] <cyphase> Ubuntu Mousepad
[02:44] <abuchbinder> Can I compile a single module for my kernel without recompiling the entire kernel?
[02:44] <stefano> hi
[02:45] <stefano> I just got Ubuntu for PPC
[02:45] <orbin> adventchild: yep, what polpak said.  totem-xine uses the xine engine while the default totem uses gstreamer
[02:45] <adventchild> orbin, polpak:  i will try to get totem-xine again.;..  ty
[02:45] <cyphase> Ubuntu Mouse
[02:45] <cyphase> Ubuntu Keyboard
[02:45] <polpak> adventchild, you should just be able to apt-get int
[02:45] <stefano> hey, I need some help
[02:45] <polpak> adventchild, err it
[02:45] <nalioth> stefano: what's up
[02:45] <polpak> !tell stefano about justask
[02:45] <tritium> abuchbinder: yes, you can
[02:45] <stefano> hold on
[02:45] <carlos> algum gajo tuga
[02:45] <Seveas> !pt
[02:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:45] <nalioth> carlos: que idioma?
[02:46] <amphi> kevin: man apt.conf says apt supports the http_proxy var
[02:46] <abuchbinder> tritium: Is there a tool or something? I have a modified xpad.c I want to compile.
[02:46] <stefano> when I open network admin, it doesn't prompt me with a user name/password, so I can't add any connections
[02:46] <stefano> I'm on the hardwire on a laptop and I want to config my wireless
[02:46] <_jason> nalioth: tuga = portuga ~ portugal
[02:46] <abuchbinder> tritium: Also, I got the vanilla kernel sources just in case... but I thought I just needed the headers to compile a module.
[02:46] <amphi> stefano: use iwconfig
[02:46] <tritium> abuchbinder: be right back
[02:46] <stefano> in command line?
[02:46] <amphi> stefano: yeah
[02:47] <nalioth> stefano: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin
[02:47] <stefano> ah ok let me try
[02:47] <hanasaki> hm so you dont have to comp9ile anything to get nv support?
[02:47] <stefano> I'm new to Ubuntu, but not Linux
[02:47] <polpak> hanasaki, nope
[02:47] <polpak> hanasaki, just apt-get the packages
[02:47] <Cooner750> _jason: It says nothing when I run ls /usr/lib/win32. The folder itself is empty
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stefano about root
[02:47] <kevin> amphi, tried it with that and still doesn't work
[02:47] <_jason> Cooner750: how did you install w32codecs?
[02:47] <hanasaki> but doesnt it need the kernel mod in the modules dir?
[02:48] <stefano> that still doesn't work
[02:48] <polpak> hanasaki, the package installs it
[02:48] <stefano> it doesn't prompt me
[02:48] <void^> if you use stock kernels you can use stock kernel mods.
[02:48] <Cooner750> _jason: Using this repository: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[02:48] <hanasaki> hjmmm so ifi build my own kernel w/ make-kpg?
[02:48] <Cooner750> I wasnt able to find a .deb package of it anywhere
[02:49] <polpak> hanasaki, why make your own? (just curious)
[02:49] <amphi> kevin: then look at apt.conf(5)
[02:49] <hanasaki> to get some modules that may not be in the apt-get one
[02:49] <kevin> amphi, do I need to sudo export, or just export? sudo export said "no such command found"
[02:49] <polpak> hanasaki, I think the additional modules are also available packaged..
[02:49] <nalioth> kevin: what is it?
[02:49] <hanasaki> oh
[02:49] <_jason> Cooner750: what does ``  dpkg -l '*w32codecs*'   '' say?
[02:49] <adventchild> orbin, polpak:  i am installing t-xine now, is there any command to increase the quality of video?
[02:50] <void^> you can use the kernel source package to compile modules for the stock kernel
[02:50] <swalchy> right
[02:50] <hanasaki> so there are apt-get versions for all cpus?
[02:50] <polpak> hanasaki, pretty much
[02:50] <swalchy> I have ndiswrapper copied from my pico disk onto my computer
[02:50] <swalchy> how do I install it?
[02:50] <hanasaki> can you even aptget stuff like exim for a amd k6? k8? k7?
[02:50] <jibz> hi does any one know how to download song on ubuntu coz i am use to windows
[02:50] <void^> those are all i386.
[02:50] <hanasaki> hmm polpak dont htink deb has the pakcages for those modules
[02:50] <hanasaki> cool
[02:50] <adventchild> orbin, polpak:  the quality sucks, but i have downloaded the same file when i was running window$ and it was much better
[02:50] <amphi> hanasaki: no, just a few things, kernel, mplayer, ...
[02:51] <Cooner750> No packages found matching w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu1_i386.deb.
[02:51] <kevin> nalioth, when I sudo export HTTP_PROXY, it says "sudo: export: command not found
[02:51] <kevin> "
[02:51] <nalioth> kevin: you'll need to put EXPORT blah blah in your ~/.bashrc
[02:51] <orbin> adventchild: wait till you try t-xine
[02:51] <Cooner750> oops. _jason: "No packages found matching w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu1_i386.deb.
[02:51] <Cooner750> "
[02:51] <stefano> oh hah I didn't relize Ubugtu was a robot
[02:51] <Euler> arg.  Ok... I am new to this.  I installed libsdl1.2-dev yet I do not have SDL.h anywhere :(
[02:51] <stefano> I thought I was talking to a person...
[02:52] <BerryAllen> hi all, im trying to use ubuntu (latest), im my notebook, but i cant configure it with my videocard (i810) i read everything i found... but nothing works.
[02:52] <adventchild> orbin: i finished installing it, but no icon has appeared...  what command from the terminal do i use to ru it?
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: ok reinstall w32codecs, can you paste exactly what you input though?  (I expected something else)
[02:52] <polpak> Euler, are you sure?
[02:52] <adventchild> run*
[02:52] <nalioth> Cooner750: why are you not in ##apple ?
[02:52] <Euler> polpak, I ran "updatedb" then "locate SDL.h"
[02:52] <Cooner750> _jason: I input 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs'
[02:52] <amphi> Euler: dpkg -L libsdl1.2-dev will show what files the package installed
[02:52] <_jason> Cooner750: I meant for the dpkg thing
[02:53] <orbin> Euler: should be in /usr/include/SDL/SDL.h
[02:53] <nalioth> Cooner750: are you doing this on a mac?
[02:53] <amphi> Euler: it should be /usr/include/SDL/SDL.h
[02:53] <BerryAllen> anyone have i180 (+dri) working there?
[02:53] <Cooner750> I input 'dpkg -l *w32codecs*'
[02:53] <Cooner750> without quotes
[02:53] <_jason> Cooner750: yeah you needed quotes around *w32codecs* so '*w32codecs*', but nalioth's question is important
[02:54] <Euler> Hold on, user error.   I am going to slap Caleb upside the head.
[02:54] <Cooner750> nalioth: I'm at my aunt's house using it on her Pavilion
[02:54] <adventchild> nalioth: i just ran 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs' as well and was met with no installation candidates
[02:54] <amphi> Cooner750: without quotes, the shell expands the *s
[02:54] <nalioth> Cooner750: there are none in the repos
[02:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Cooner750 about restricted
[02:54] <_jason> nalioth: he has plf enabled it seems
[02:54] <amphi> Euler: heh
[02:54] <BerryAllen> anyone have i180 (+dri) working there?
[02:54] <kevin> is there something like lynx that comes with ubuntu?
[02:55] <tristanmike> adventchild: they were removed due to legal reasons, you have to download them elsewhere
[02:55] <amphi> kevin: w3m is a nice one; lynx is also available
[02:55] <adventchild> ah
[02:55] <polpak> kevin, how about lynx
[02:55] <nalioth> kevin: lynx, elinks, links and links2 are here (also w3m)
[02:55] <orbin> kevin: w3m
[02:55] <jibz> any one know how to download chart songs
[02:55] <jibz> plz
[02:55] <Cooner750> _jason: It says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11491
[02:56] <abuchbinder> jibz: Chart songs? Hilarious ditties about the benefits of presenting data graphically?
[02:56] <orbin> jibz: wrong channel
[02:56] <_jason> Cooner750: dpkg -L w32codecs > pastebin
[02:56] <BerryAllen> tks a lot
[02:56] <hanasaki> what vendors are good for raid cards? bad for them?
[02:56] <jibz> ok
[02:56] <jibz> lol
[02:56] <docta_v> anyone had the problem where the mouse button #4 (or 5?) doesn't make firefox go back but makes it do some weird stuff instead
[02:57] <Cooner750> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11492
[02:57] <adventchild> how do i run totem-xine? no icon showed up after i dpkg'ed it
[02:58] <Siph0n> hey... if ./arm-linux-uclibc-gcc is a command, but arm-linux-uclibc-gcc isnt by itself without the "./" ... how do i fix that? :)
[02:58] <tristanmike> adventchild: it's used automatically, as the video engine
[02:58] <scott_> can someone who hasn't changed their groups for their first user type groups and tell me what it says? I accidently removed my user from all of them
[02:58] <Seveas> Siph0n, add the folder with arm-linux-ucibc-gcc to your $PATH
[02:58] <bimberi> Siph0n: the file has to be in a directory in your PATH
[02:58] <orbin> adventchild: through and & vid.
[02:58] <kevin> don't seem to have lynx, but maybe that's because I'm using edubuntu, but from what I read it is supposed to have everything the same from straight ubuntu
[02:58] <orbin> s/and/sd
[02:58] <Seveas> uid=1000(dennis) gid=1000(dennis) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),112(admin),117(fuse),1000(dennis)
[02:58] <Siph0n> k thanx :)
[02:58] <Seveas> Siph0n, --^
[02:58] <_jason> Cooner750: you are using mplayer from the repositories?
[02:59] <adventchild> tristanmike: so when i go to run a .mov, it will open using t-xine?
[02:59] <Cooner750> Yes. mplayer-386
[02:59] <tristanmike> adventchild: it should....but .mov are part of the w32codecs iirc
[02:59] <nalioth> tristanmike: libquicktime covers .mov
[02:59] <Cooner750> _jason: I used mplayer-386
[03:00] <adventchild> tristanmike: i am using totem right now and there is no audio...  but totem opened when i opened the .mov file...  i installed the w32codecs...
[03:00] <abuchbinder> tritium: Are you back, or should I get back to you when you're done de-voicing people?
[03:00] <tritium> abuchbinder: if we can chat later, that would be great.  Sorry
[03:00] <tristanmike> adventchild: I've had a problem like that with one .mov file, and vlc played the sound...I synced the two together to watch it :P, but then I installed mplayer and it played it fine..so
[03:01] <abuchbinder> tritium: No problem; I'll ping you again in an hour or so.
[03:01] <tritium> abuchbinder: okay