[07:07] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:09] <yuitimothy> ls
[09:09] <yuitimothy> oops
[10:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[11:21] <dbrom> anyone here
[11:21] <hateball> 262, more or less
[11:23] <dbrom> good, how do i give fill reand and Excute access to a second drive i thought it was chmod +rw drive
[11:26] <hateball> dbrom: Could you give a bit more detail
[11:26] <hateball> Have you added another internal drive, for a certain user to use?
[11:26] <dbrom> at thee moment if I make a folder on the drive I am able to then mv any folder i ont under it but not directly on to the drive itself
[11:27] <dbrom> Yes
[11:28] <hateball> dbrom: How is this drive partitioned/mounted?
[11:28] <dbrom> /media/<user>/drive
[11:36] <dbrom> in dolphin at the moment I cant paste files to the new drive at all
[11:41] <vbgunz> anyone here use yakuake? I put on a theme that hid the "configure yakuake" option from me. what is the shortcut for it?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> f12
[11:45] <BluesKaj> then right click and choose manage profules
[11:45] <BluesKaj> err profiles
[11:47] <BluesKaj> vbgunz,^
[11:48] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: that's not it, that messes with something else, I'm trying to get back to the "configure yakuake" window. in there I can change this theme back
[11:49] <vbgunz> I got it back
[11:50] <vbgunz> I just commented out the theme in ~/.kde/share/config/yakuakerc
[11:50] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, so the theme is strictly for yakuake
[11:51] <vbgunz> yes, it removed the options that messed with yakuake specific features
[11:51] <vbgunz> yakuake specific options more like it
[11:51] <BluesKaj> ok good to know, but I don't bother with themes for thinks like yakuake
[11:51] <BluesKaj> err things :)
[11:51] <vbgunz> I sort of look at yakuake a lot and I don't like the themes at the bottom :(
[11:52] <BluesKaj> picky picky
[11:52] <BluesKaj> I uae yakuake all the time ...it's great
[11:52] <BluesKaj> use
[11:53]  * BluesKaj has another coffee to wake up some more
[11:53] <dbrom> at the moment I am using xbmc on a kubuntu 14.04 system ... id like to put it on a ubuntu system that has no GUI does anyone use this config
[11:58] <BluesKaj> dbrom, best to ask in #xbmc
[12:00] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: yeah, I agree, I love it, I just made the following so hopefully this wont happen again. F1 to configure yakuake, F2 to configure shortcuts, F3 to configure notifications, I just assigned those shortcuts
[12:21] <r_rios> Hello. After the last kernel update, I think, my laptop's fan has been too loud. Can anyone relate to this?
[13:28] <SelecTee> hello everyone
[13:29] <SelecTee> sorry for my bad English
[13:29] <SelecTee> Question: can be differences translation about 32 and 64 bits version?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !architecture
[13:32] <SelecTee> and #2: How correctly install skype in 64 bit system?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !info architecture
[13:33] <BluesKaj> !64bit
[13:33] <SelecTee> btw, iam from RUSSIA
[13:33] <BluesKaj> SelecTee,^
[13:35] <SelecTee> I see that 32bit version is more complete translation than 64 bits, I'm right
[13:35] <SelecTee> BluesKaj: )
[13:40] <BluesKaj> 32bit OS runs on 64 bit machine, but not the reverse
[13:41] <SelecTee> i know
[13:43] <SelecTee>  I ask about the completeness of the translation into Russian
[13:44] <shadeslayer> SelecTee: nope
[13:44] <shadeslayer> translations don't depend on arch
[13:44] <SelecTee> ok
[13:45] <SelecTee> what about second question?
[13:45] <SelecTee>  How correctly install skype in 64 bit system?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> SelecTee, http://tutorialforlinux.com/2014/04/24/how-to-install-latest-skype-on-kubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-lts-32-64bit-step-by-step-easy-guide/
[14:03] <SelecTee> bad way
[14:03] <SelecTee> thx all, bb
[16:55] <SouL___> Is it possible to have animated wallpapers on KUBUNTU?
[16:56] <lordievader> SouL___: Jup, might be that you need some extra package.
[16:56] <SouL___> lordievader: I've searched for dream desktop but nothing :S
[16:57] <SouL___> I want to die :(
[16:57] <lordievader> SouL___: I thought it was in plasma-wallpapers-addons
[16:58] <SouL___> lordievader: installing... thanks... let me see :'(
[17:26] <SouL___> lordievader: I don't see the animation option :S
[17:26] <SouL___> lordievader: can you help me, pelase?
[17:27] <lordievader> SouL___: Err, I'm not on (K)Ubuntu right now, cannot check which package contains it.
[17:29] <SouL___> lordievader: ok, sorry for disturbing..
[17:31] <lordievader> SouL___: No problem. Like I said I thought it was in plasma-wallpapers-addons.
[17:31] <alesan> hi, how can I disable the kdewallet?
[17:31] <alesan> each time I reboot, it asks for my password
[17:31] <alesan> otherewise choqoc, wifi and akregator don't work
[17:32] <alesan> I do not want to type in my password for these basic services to work
[17:32] <lordievader> alesan: You can simply set an empty password, then he won't ask you anymore.
[17:32] <alesan> lordievader, ok... so why there is a set password now?
[17:32] <alesan> It did not behave like this in 12.x and previous
[17:34] <lordievader> alesan: Because you gave it a password?
[17:34] <alesan> I never opened kdewalled before now
[17:35] <alesan> and I surely not set a password
[17:35] <BluesKaj> alesan, or you can , kmenu>apps>system>kwallet>settings , uncheck enable kde wallet ,apply
[17:35] <alesan> BluesKaj, can you recommend an alternative way to reach there? I have the K menu
[17:36] <alesan> the system...
[17:36] <BluesKaj> err uncheck "enable kde wallet"
[17:36] <alesan> BluesKaj, I just kde KDE wallet manager to select in "system"
[17:36] <lordievader> alesan: alt + f2 -> kwallet -> enter
[17:37] <BluesKaj> choose settings
[17:37] <alesan> oh OK
[17:37] <alesan> I disabled it
[17:37] <BluesKaj> apply
[17:37] <alesan> do I login-logout now?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> no need
[17:38] <alesan> OK I hope kdewallet will never come up again now :)
[17:38] <alesan> thanks!
[17:51] <alket> hi , how to enable Preview in Dolphin by default
[17:58] <bprompt> alket:   you mean the side picture on the right-side usually?
[17:59] <alket> no the thumbnails
[18:00] <BluesKaj> alket, dolphin>view>adjust view properties>preview
[18:00] <Psnw> Hello everyone
[18:01] <Psnw> are there any guru experts in the room today?
[18:01] <alket> BluesKaj: I mean whenever I enter a folder , I have to click the preview button , how to make so all images are thumbnails without clickiing preview
[18:02] <genii> Psnw: Best to just ask the channel in general your actual question, and then to see if someone can assist
[18:02] <lordievader> Psnw: Why do you need an expert?
[18:02] <Psnw> ok thank you genii
[18:03] <Psnw> I have an HP dv6110us running a Turion 64 with
[18:03] <BluesKaj> alket, yes
[18:03] <alket> thanks
[18:03] <BluesKaj> that's how I got preview to work here
[18:05] <PSNW_> sorry lost my connection
[18:06] <PSNW_> Did my problem come through?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> no
[18:07] <PSNW_> ok, ... I can't boot 14.04 Kubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu on this machine I am working on. It will boot Lucid Puppy however. It's a graphics driver issue.
[18:07] <PSNW_> Is there anyway I can sgnag the driver from an older version and put it in a new LTS release?
[18:10] <PSNW_> The old machine I am working on has an Nvidia Geforce 6150 in it
[18:11] <lordievader> PSNW_: Err, no. Drivers depend on the kernel version. Nouveau doesn't work with that 6150?
[18:11] <lordievader> PSNW_: Does the card work in a live session?
[18:12] <PSNW_> The card will boot with XP and Vista no problem. In a live session it will boot but when I get to the "Try or Install" screen it goes black and white with large bands.....mouse works though.
[18:14] <PSNW_> The nice glow effect around the Kubuntu loading screen turns into just raw pixalated colors......is why I am thinking it's a driver issue
[18:15] <lordievader> PSNW_: Hmm, the 6150 should still work with nouveau. Anyhow what you could try is installing the nvidia driver.
[18:16] <PSNW_> Is it possible to install the nvidia driver without the live CD loading fully?
[18:17] <lordievader> PSNW_: Err, I'd install Ubuntu/Kubuntu through the server/mini iso and then install the nvidia driver.
[18:19] <PSNW_> Ok I have never tried that. I have only used the full install iso's.  I just booted Kubuntu 10.04 and it works great
[18:20] <lordievader> PSNW_: Only the server edition of 10.04 is still supported. The desktop is EOL.
[18:20] <PSNW_> ya I am reaching back to see what works..... if I install 10.04 then upgrade/update to 14.04 will it still hold the orginal driver?
[18:21] <PSNW_> Anything after Lucid seems to have problems with the graphics driver
[18:21] <mr-rich> Hmmmmm ... like Flash, Adobe hasn't released a PDF reader for Linux since version 9.5.5 ... Is there any more updated PDF readers for Linux?
[18:21] <lordievader> PSNW_: No, like I said. The driver is kernel dependend. 10.04 probably runs something 2.6.x whereas Trusty runs 3.13
[18:22] <lordievader> mr-rich: Okular, included in the kubuntu-desktop package.
[18:22] <wxl> is ntp not installed by default? how is it not if this option to sync automatically exists in date & time settings?
[18:22] <mr-rich> lordievader: found that ... I'll try some newer PDFs with Okular ...
[18:23] <bprompt> mr-rich:     okular works very well, if you need a multi-tab pdf viewer, I use qpdfview, uses libpoppler3 libs which are the same rendering engine as okular
[18:23] <PSNW_> lordievader: Thank you for your help. I will try the mini iso and see how that works. I am not very good with termnal commands this should be interesting
[18:25] <lordievader> PSNW_: You'll learn a lot :)
[18:25] <wxl> should i just install ntp if i'm having problems with the auto-sync in date & time settings?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> PSNW_, it's not difficult, there won't be any cli commands required, it just a simpler text based install without the fancy graphical interface
[18:26] <lordievader> wxl: Would be a good approach.
[18:26] <wxl> lordievader: i guess i'm also concerned that ntp is not installed by default. is that to be expected/
[18:26] <PSNW_> BluesKaj: Ok thanks... I am looking for the mini iso for 14.04 right now. No luck so far finding it
[18:27] <BluesKaj> !minimal
[18:27] <lordievader> wxl: Not sure, I no longer have a clear idea what a regular Kubuntu install contains and what not.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> PSNW_, ^
[18:30]  * wxl wonders
[18:30] <wxl> !ntp
[18:30] <wxl> oops
[18:30] <PSNW_> BlueKaj lordievader : Thank you! I will certainly give this a few tries!.....perhaps there is hope for this machine. I really don't want to go back to wondoes with it  :/
[18:30] <wxl> !info ntp
[18:30] <wxl> optional, hm
[22:39] <max64> !ciao
[23:43] <linux_> hello
[23:44] <linux_> hi i have a slow flash player problem is there any one know how fix it  .thx
[23:47] <linux_> är det nån svensk här


[02:30] <pleia2> smartboyhw: re: ~ubuntu-core-doc, you need to do work on documentation and work with the team, eventually you apply to be part of core doc for your flavor
[02:30] <pleia2> smartboyhw: and it's done on the ubuntu-doc mailing list, the team administrators handle all this (the CC is not involved, we just own the team for emergencies)
[06:38] <smartboyhw> pleia2, sure


[05:10] <ScottK> It's unlikely on a weekend.
[05:24] <wgrant> I got here just a few minutes after he left, unfortunately.
[08:14] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:28] <lifeless> o/
[08:50] <czajkowski> lifeless: ello hows the little one
[08:52] <lifeless> asleep, fortunately :)
[08:52] <czajkowski> it's a valuable skill, one I wish I had.
[08:52] <czajkowski> instead playing with my new phone
[16:11] <JohnP^> anyone had problems with a52 output in saucy?
[16:28] <DarylXian> any launchpad sysadmin's around?
[21:51] <demonimin> I'm looking for something like snapshot.debian.org, a historical view of the archive
[22:23] <demonimin> is there a way to trace api requests made from launchpadlib? https complicates things
[22:25] <lifeless> there's an environment variable you can set
[22:25] <lifeless> HTTP2LIB_DEBUG or something, I forget
[22:26] <cjwatson> the httplib2.debuglevel thing in https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib#Three_things_to_make_your_client_faster may help
[22:26] <lifeless> thats probably what I'm remembering
[22:27] <demonimin> thanks
[23:13] <Dougie187> How do you get a source package for a package that has already been built?
[23:15] <mwhudson> Dougie187: dget can do it
[23:15] <mwhudson> but where are you starting from?
[23:16] <Dougie187> I made packages for precise and raring before, and I want to make them again for suacy.
[23:16] <Dougie187> saucy*
[23:16] <Dougie187> Last time I tried doing it with a source package that I downloaded (not from the PPA) it failed to upload because the source package already exists.
[23:16] <mwhudson> oh
[23:16] <mwhudson> well you can just copy
[23:17] <Dougie187> Oh?
[23:17] <Dougie187> Maybe I'll do that then. :P
[23:18] <Dougie187> Do I have to tell it to use the same binaries?
[23:24] <demonimin> it's an option
[23:25] <demonimin> oh, if you don't have any binary dependencies like c libraries you can copy as-is
[23:31] <Dougie187> Is there a way to update the series version string when you copy?
[23:31] <Dougie187> for example, it would be nice if my saucy packages weren't named "~precise1"
[23:46] <demonimin> no; try ~ppa next time
[23:47] <Dougie187> ok. :P


[18:14] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i can. and it's still full of the memory corruption records, which it should not be. now the question is whether those also occur if you last rebooted properly, not suspended. which we won't know unless oyu reboot again. when you run "dmesg -T | tail" now, do you see nothing but "Corrupted low memory" records, and are those timestamps current?
[18:15] <slyrobot> tomreyn, I haven't cleared those logs.
[18:15] <glitchd> helloNL, does this machine have windows 10?
[18:16] <helloNL> Yes
[18:16] <tomreyn> slyrobot: which ones? you mean dmesg? that's right from the running kernel, not a log file.
[18:16] <glitchd> you might have secure boot disabled, which would make it seem like windows isnt even there anymore
[18:16] <slyrobot> tomreyn, I just cleared syslog.1 and kernlog.1
[18:16] <glitchd> helloNL, ^^
[18:16] <helloNL> It's enabled glitchd
[18:16] <helloNL> At least last time I checked in the BIOS
[18:17] <glitchd> try lsblk
[18:17] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i'm aware. and my question is still relevant, to understand whether this is an ongoing problem.
[18:17] <glitchd> see if it lists the windows partition
[18:17] <slyrobot> I was able to retrieve about 251 GB by clearing those. tomreyn
[18:17] <helloNL> Secure boot control is enabled and secure boot too, Secure boot mode is standard glitchd
[18:17] <tomreyn> slyrobot: yes, that's good, i know.
[18:18] <slyrobot> I see. What do you want to know ?
[18:18] <glitchd> helloNL, forgive this question, but, are you sure u didnt install over, or erase windows when you install linux?
[18:19] <helloNL> I had 150gb left on the disk so I only added partitions glitchd
[18:19] <helloNL> isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p1 to 6 are there with windows it were only 4
[18:19] <helloNL> p2 is my efi drive which now is a grub instead of Windows
[18:21] <glitchd> helloNL, you could try installing boot-repair to fix the problem
[18:21] <glitchd> helloNL, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[18:22] <nicomachus> uhhh... shouldn't need a PPA for boot-repair
[18:22] <nicomachus> it's preinstalled.
[18:22] <nicomachus> or should be.
[18:22] <glitchd> helloNL, then, just sudo boot-repair to launch it
[18:23] <glitchd> nicomachus, i was assuming it wasnt installed
[18:23] <nicomachus> if he's on Ubuntu, it's installed.
[18:23] <OerHeks> nicomachus, it is available from ppa only, iirc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:23] <helloNL> One problem, apt-get update tells me it's not signed glitchd
[18:23] <tomreyn> slyrobot: there's a bios update available for your system: v1.2.0, yours is v1.1.8: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=MR2R8&fileId=3578822587&osCode=WT64A&productCode=inspiron-15-7559-laptop&languageCode=en&categoryId=BI
[18:23] <glitchd> im on 16.04.1 and its not installed
[18:24] <lakitu> anyone help with getting my huge offline repositories working?
[18:24] <lakitu> like i was saying, getting apt-get update errors.
[18:24] <helloNL> are the dutch archives down? all are telling me that it failed to connect
[18:24] <slyrobot> tomreyn, So you are suggesting a BIOS update ??
[18:24] <glitchd> helloNL, did you run the first command i gave?
[18:24] <helloNL> Yes
[18:25] <helloNL> sudo apt-get install boot-repair now right?
[18:25] <glitchd> then run this one now, sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[18:25] <glitchd> yes
[18:25] <nicomachus> lakitu: can you paste the output of your apt update?
[18:25] <lakitu> hey nicomachus - yes: http://pastebin.ca/3739234
[18:25] <helloNL> I have held broken packages o.o
[18:25] <helloNL> I just finished installing the iso
[18:25] <lakitu> might wanna ctrl+f for error/err/etc
[18:25] <helloNL> wtf
[18:25] <tomreyn> slyrobot: yes, why not, it's cleary something to do with suspend not working properly, which is a very low level functionality between bios ( or UEFI in your case) and OS (ubuntu in your case). the (as always minimalistic) changelog may suggest that it solves this issue.
[18:25] <lakitu> nicomachus ^
[18:25] <glitchd> helloNL, more errors?
[18:27] <slyrobot> tomreyn, Yes but there is a problem I think. The support is for Windows 10 and it will not run in Linux, What do you think ?
[18:27] <helloNL> http://kopy.io/wbgkj glitchd
[18:27] <glitchd> helloNL, run sudo apt-get install -f
[18:28] <helloNL> 0 upgraded installed or removed, 76 not upgraded
[18:29] <lakitu> nicomachus: this is for a main computer i use, would really like to get it squared away
[18:29] <nicomachus> lakitu: what does your sources.list look like?
[18:29] <helloNL> Also the dutch nl.archive.ubuntucom seems to not resolve. This might be an issue?
[18:29] <lakitu> nicomachus: hang on
[18:29] <glitchd> helloNL, im sorry are you on 16.10?
[18:29] <tomreyn> slyrobot: you can run the firmware update from a freedos live boot.
[18:29] <nicomachus>  lakitu it looks like you're updating from a USB and not from online repositories.
[18:30] <helloNL> ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64 glitchd
[18:30] <lakitu> nicomachus: yes, that is what i'm trying to do. offline repo's
[18:30] <tomreyn> slyrobot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS
[18:30] <slyrobot> tomreyn, How do you suggest I do that ??
[18:30] <slyrobot> Okay.
[18:30] <nicomachus> lakitu: ok, and did you check those file locations that it says don't exist?
[18:31] <lakitu> nicomachus: triple checked but we can check again
[18:31] <lakitu> uploading the sources.list
[18:33] <bruno_> Hello, I need some help to make the backlight screen intensities work.
[18:33] <lakitu> nicomachus: i used / modeled it after the osdisc.com's sources.list it generated - or at least the lines it added - which is who i bought the repo from: http://pastebin.ca/3739255
[18:33] <glitchd> helloNL, sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <helloNL> yh this time I did get normal response
[18:33] <lakitu> nicomachus: so you know.
[18:33] <helloNL> But when doing upgrade it all errors again
[18:34] <glitchd> helloNL, sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[18:34] <glitchd> helloNL, upgrade?
[18:34] <helloNL> Yh I thought i'll just update
[18:34] <lakitu> upgrade goes from like ubuntu 15 to 16, helloNL
[18:35] <gadget> lo there, anyone have issues with wifi not finding any ap's untill the machine is put into and out of suspend?
[18:35] <nicomachus> no it doesn't, lakitu. you're thinking of do-release-upgrade
[18:35] <lakitu> i think =/   i started -- oh
[18:35] <helloNL> sudo apt-get upgrade is to install updates of everything right?
[18:35] <lakitu> i started when you couldn't do upgrades reliably, so i never tried to upgrade the distro in-place, again
[18:35] <lakitu> i stand corrected. =D
[18:36] <helloNL> dist-upgrade is distro update I thought :/
[18:36] <nicomachus> helloNL: no, that's for kernel upgrade.
[18:36] <gadget> sorry to interrupt btw, but has anyone have issues with wifi not finding any ap's until the machine is put into and out of suspend?
[18:36] <nicomachus> or you can use apt instead of apt-get and do apt full-upgrade
[18:36] <helloNL> boot-repair is not authenticated glitchd should I just install?
[18:36] <nicomachus> !patience | gadget we saw you, but hold on a sec.
[18:36] <glitchd> yes
[18:37] <lakitu> so what does upgrade do?
[18:37] <gadget> ubottu: I meant to edit that, i didn't see i sent it already.
[18:37] <lakitu> apt-get upgrade
[18:37] <gadget> lol
[18:37] <nicomachus> lakitu: apt-get upgrade upgrades installed packages.
[18:37] <helloNL> It started scanning and now I get a pop up menu as in:  http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1335260967.png
[18:37] <lakitu> ok
[18:37] <glitchd> first option
[18:38] <glitchd> helloNL, ^^
[18:38] <lakitu> i'll worry about that another time, i guess . . .  or man it
[18:38] <helloNL> Please disable secureboot in the BIOS. Then try again. Do you want to continue?
[18:39] <helloNL> glitchd: ^^
[18:39] <lakitu> ah, (apt-get) update will sync the package list, upgrade will actually install the new versions
[18:39] <lakitu> new ones
[18:40] <lakitu> The More You Know *shooting star*
[18:40] <helloNL> I am also a noob lakitu, only thing I did was set up a server thanks to tutorials
[18:40] <nicomachus> lakitu: yep. but apt is the new apt-get
[18:40] <glitchd> helloNL, you cannot boot ubuntu with secure boot enabled, however you cannot boot windows with secure boot diabled
[18:40] <lakitu> ok
[18:40] <lakitu> (nicomachus)
[18:40] <helloNL> Well Secure boot is on and I am in ubuntu
[18:40] <helloNL> Also there was a news report that Ubuntu would now work with secure boot
[18:41] <BazookaTooth> canonical had a signature added to secureboot.
[18:41] <lakitu> i had a heckuva time getting my new pc to work with ubuntu - it turned out to be uefi
[18:41] <ducasse> helloNL glitchd secure boot has worked for a long time now
[18:41] <glitchd> ducasse, news to me..
[18:41] <ns_> ciao
[18:42] <lakitu> had to set bios into legacy (compatible) mode
[18:42] <lakitu> err the uefi, as it were
[18:42] <helloNL> ducasse: why does this boot-repair want me to disable secure boot
[18:42] <ducasse> glitchd: you need to disable it to use dkms drivers, though
[18:42] <lakitu> set the uefi
[18:42] <ahfsdsd> Hi.. I have a problem with Chromium under Ubuntu 16.04 + all other ppl with same OS. With firefox on the same computers it works. It started 2 days ago on all and is not related with update. The problem is with one page - www.seznam.cz
[18:42] <ducasse> helloNL: you need to disable it to use dkms drivers
[18:42] <ahfsdsd> There is some issue with certificate
[18:43] <glitchd> ducasse, arent dkms drivers related to the display?
[18:43] <lakitu> nicomachus: any ideas?
[18:43] <nicomachus> ahfsdsd: yea it's a known bug.
[18:43] <stan_man_can> So if I have a program I want to run in the background, always (start on boot, restart if it crashes) how do I go about that with systemd? Also,  how do I pipe the output (STDERR/STDOUT) to different log files?
[18:43] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd: "The server presented a certificate that was not publicly disclosed using the Certificate Transparency policy. This is a requirement for some certificates, to ensure that they are trustworthy and protect against attackers." <-- that is your problem. the problem is with their certificate and they need to fix it.
[18:43] <nicomachus> ahfsdsd: you'll have to use Chrome 54 to get around it.
[18:43] <lakitu> not to push (nicomachus)
[18:43] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd: that Firefox doesn't catch it, is actually a bug/security hole in Firefox.
[18:43] <ducasse> glitchd: not necessarily, no. vbox uses them, so does certain wifi chipsets.
[18:43] <glitchd> ducasse, mmk
[18:44] <helloNL> ducase glitchd https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BryeIwHw/
[18:44] <ahfsdsd> ahfdsd: hmm, thanks. When do you think it will be fixed in normal repos with Chromium?
[18:44] <helloNL> it wants me to do that now
[18:44] <ahfsdsd> DocPlatypus: ^^
[18:44] <nicomachus> lakitu: sorry, having trouble getting lynx to open atm
[18:44] <lakitu> ok
[18:44] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd: no idea
[18:44] <lakitu> sweet. i remember lynx, i think
[18:44] <lakitu> text browser or smth?
[18:44] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd:  you'll have to ask them when they plan to update their certificate.
[18:44] <nicomachus> ahfsdsd: yea, no idea. try asking the Chromium folks. I htink it's #chromium
[18:44] <glitchd> helloNL, whats that all about?
[18:45] <helloNL> boot-repair says to do that
[18:45] <glitchd> helloNL, oh
[18:45] <lakitu> looking up guitar tabs at the library with a text browser in the earliest days of the Net
[18:45] <helloNL> I don't know what that stuff is
[18:45] <glitchd> helloNL, do it
[18:45] <ahfsdsd> So where the problem actually is? I think that it is not Chromium, since it works with the same version on Debian
[18:45] <helloNL> So I am not going to do it untill someone verify's
[18:45] <DocPlatypus> lakitu: Lynx is still being developed, btw
[18:45] <lakitu> sweet
[18:45] <lakitu> gtk
[18:46] <nicomachus> lakitu: I'm on a VM tunnelled into my home PC, so opening a proper GUI browser would be tough/take forever. for pastebins, lynx USUALLY works fine. not sure why it won't open right now.
[18:46] <lakitu> want me to get it to you another way?
[18:47] <ducasse> helloNL: i can't comment on the two last lines, can you give me a couple of minutes to read a little?
[18:47] <helloNL> I kinda did already execute ducasse
[18:47] <lakitu> i was at thte point with this, i was going to redo the whole install in a vm, upload the .vmi to the owner of osdisc.   he hasn't responded if he's willing to
[18:47] <lakitu> the*
[18:47] <helloNL> Seems I have issues connecting to internet, losing connection all the time :/
[18:47] <ducasse> helloNL: ok, best of luck then :)
[18:47] <usr13> helloNL: Wifi?
[18:48] <helloNL> Yes usr13
[18:48] <usr13> helloNL: Is it due to weak signal?
[18:48] <ahfsdsd> Page www.seznam.cz is working with Chromium on Debian Stable (exactly same version), with Ubuntu 16.04 it does not work on all PCs. With Firefox it is working everywhere...
[18:48] <helloNL> Shouldn't be, normally no issues with WIFI in this room
[18:48] <tarjo> After the last kernel update I'm also loosing wireless in the amd 32bit laptop, but not in the amd64 laptop
[18:49] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[18:49] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[18:49] <glitchd> helloNL, what wifi card?
[18:49] <helloNL> glitchd: I can boot to Windows now, but the bootloader has a lot of crap in it
[18:49] <usr13> helloNL: All WiFi interfaces are not the same.  (Some get better signals and have more power output, some not so good.  There are a number of things that could be wrong, some of which are beyond the scope of this channel.
[18:50] <helloNL> Killer 1202-n
[18:50] <tarjo> glitchd, mine is Qualcomm Atheros AR928X
[18:50] <glitchd> tarjo, i was referring to helloNL ..
[18:50] <helloNL> usr13: Normally I am also in this room, I might be 2 meters from the connection point :P
[18:50] <lakitu> just want this os install to recognize repositories, so i can get on with everything.  ubuntu/etc normally work great - great enough, you know
[18:51] <tarjo> glitchd, ohh I am sorry, I spoke due to the same problem
[18:51] <glitchd> tarjo, no problem
[18:51] <helloNL> glitchd: Do you know how I can edit the bootloader menu? I wanna reduce it and rename stuff
[18:51] <lakitu> working at it a week.
[18:52] <glitchd> helloNL, look up grub-customizer
[18:52] <helloNL> Is that an application or something build in?
[18:52] <glitchd> app
[18:52] <glitchd> it gives you a gui to edit and customize grub
[18:52] <helloNL> Nice
[18:52] <helloNL> If that worked I can remove boot-repair right?
[18:53] <glitchd> helloNL, theoretically, yes, but you might as well leave it in case anything else happens and you need it again
[18:55] <glitchd> helloNL, are you able to boot back into windows now?
[18:58] <helloNL> Yh
[18:58] <glitchd> helloNL, yh?
[18:58] <helloNL> Yes i am
[18:58] <glitchd> ok
[18:58] <glitchd> any other problems then?
[18:59] <helloNL> I have 2 different scripts working to boot into Windows :/
[18:59] <helloNL> Now I am not sure which is right :/
[18:59] <glitchd> reboot and test
[18:59] <helloNL> Both work
[18:59] <helloNL> That's the problem
[18:59] <glitchd> then pic n choose which to disable
[19:00] <glitchd> if they both work then it shouldnt matter which u disable
[19:01] <helloNL> The first boots EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi the other boots EFI/Microsoft/bootmgfw.efi
[19:01] <teo_> if I install fluxbox on ubuntu everything seems to work fine except gtk3 theme/appearance. All gtk3 appearance looks like reset to default (aduita theme). Is there a way to set new themes? Do I need gtk2 functionality? Any help will be appreciated.
[19:01] <glitchd> like i said, if they both boot, then it shouldnt matter which u choose to disable
[19:02] <ducasse> teo_: try lxappearance
[19:02] <helloNL> glitchd: Well they could boot different which might disable some functions
[19:02] <glitchd> helloNL, then again, reboot and test.
[19:03] <ducasse> helloNL: the second of those is the standard windows bootloader, no idea about the first
[19:04] <glitchd> helloNL, ducasse By default, Boot Repair replaces both EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi and EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi with a copy of GRUB, renaming the original files so that they can be accessed or restored
[19:05] <glitchd> helloNL, ducasse  It also places a copy of GRUB as EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootx64.efi. Thus, after running Boot Repair, the number of copies of GRUB on the ESP quadrupled, from one to four! The reason for placing GRUB in these extra locations is to work around problems with a handful of buggy firmware implementations that ignore or forget their NVRAM entries. In fact, VirtualBox qualifies as one of these implementations, so if I'd run
[19:05] <glitchd> Boot Repair on the system before installing rEFInd, Boot Repair would have done the right thing.
[19:05] <stan_man_can> 0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1560:8001::11)]
[19:06] <ahfsdsd> When Ubuntu will update Chromium????
[19:07] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: You've found the SSL certificate problem? :P
[19:08] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: It looks like the problem is in Chromium 53 after all.
[19:08] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: No it is not. It is in Symantec who broke the trust.
[19:09] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: ah and how to fix it?
[19:10] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: FYI: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/09/symantec-issues-rogue-ev-certificate-googlecom
[19:10] <rexwin_> sudo tar czf /root/backup_`date +%F`.tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /testdir/
[19:11] <rexwin_> the above command is running in crontab when added using crontab -e
[19:11] <rexwin_> not running*
[19:11] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: the problem I have occured just 2 days ago
[19:11] <EriC^> rexwin_: you can't use sudo in crontab
[19:11] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: on all PCs I know about with Ubuntu 16.04
[19:11] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: Symantec response to the situation: https://knowledge.symantec.com/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&id=ALERT2160
[19:11] <rexwin_> so how to add?
[19:12] <EriC^> rexwin_: sudo crontab -e
[19:12] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: Quite correct. So did it with me.
[19:12] <EriC^> rexwin_: and remove the sudo in the command
[19:12] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: The problem is caused by Symantec engineers fooling around.
[19:12] <rexwin_> ok got it
[19:13] <ahfsdsd> Thats not good
[19:13] <ahfsdsd> Thanks
[19:13] <ahfsdsd> OK, we have to wait for 54
[19:13] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: Therefore their certificates are not trusted.
[19:13] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: This will be fixed, of course.
[19:15] <rexwin_> EriC^, does /var/log/syslog make an entry during the backup?
[19:16] <EriC^> rexwin_: yeah
[19:18] <natten> anyone here knows how to boot a physical installation of ubuntu in a vm (vmware on windows)? It boots and everything seems fine, but once i try to login i go straight back to the loginscreen (ubuntu desktop with unity)
[19:18] <lakitu> nicomachus: not sure if you're still here - was grinding / making a shots of yerba mate, lost track of time
[19:18] <EriC^> natten: does the guest account work?
[19:19] <lakitu> making shots of yerba mate.* =/
[19:19] <natten> EriC^: nope, i've also tried to move/chmod the .Xauthority file
[19:23] <DocPlatypus> natten: hmm that's strange. any clues from the logs?
[19:24] <DocPlatypus> natten: can you still ssh into it and get in that way?
[19:25] <natten> DocPlatypus: i can get to tty with ctrl+alt+1-6 :)
[19:25] <DocPlatypus> natten: can you login that way? if so see what the logs say
[19:27] <rexwin_> 55 0 * * 3 tar czf /root/backup_`date +%F`.tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /testdir/
[19:27] <rexwin_> isnot running instead I get a mail saying /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[19:27] <natten> i can log in, which logs are you thinking about? the dmesg says nothing, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log is very hard to read
[19:30] <mmc_> hi
[19:30] <mmc_> what is your idea about kvm   ?    it is faster than VBOx and Xen and othe virtual machine on ubuntu  ?
[19:32] <mmc_> other question is that  i want to install kvm but  it want gcc 4.8   and my default gcc is 4.8.4    may it causes a problem on my system  ?
[19:35] <DocPlatypus> mmc_: later version of gcc shouldn't be an issue
[19:37] <mmc_> alright
[19:37] <mmc_> DocPlatypus : do u have any idea about Kvm vs VBox and Xen  ?
[19:38] <rexwin_> tar czf /root/backup_`date +%F`.tar.gz is not running in crontab. is there a way to remove these backticks and get date included in the filename
[19:38] <EriC^> rexwin_: try $() instead
[19:40] <rexwin_> can you format the line and let me know
[19:40] <stochastix> what is the most recent version of zfs  in the repos?
[19:40] <EriC^> rexwin_: tar ... backup_$(date +%F).tar.gz ...
[19:41] <natten> DocPlatypus: booting worked after removing nvidia drivers, now is the question. is there a way to disable nvidia drivers without deleting them everyime?
[19:46] <Tranquiliz3r> join #ubuntu-ir
[19:47] <nicomachus> lakitu: yea sorry I went to lunch
[19:48] <TeslaTaz> d
[19:49] <lakitu> nicomachus: np - i lost track of time making yerba mate shots.
[19:49] <ducasse> stochastix: <IP_ADDRESS> for yakkety
[19:49] <lakitu> nicomachus: get lynx up?
[19:49] <nicomachus> no I uninstalled it and reinstalled but lost your link.
[19:49] <lakitu> ok - here
[19:50] <lakitu> err
[19:50] <lakitu> http://pastebin.ca/3739255 <-- sources.list
[19:50] <lakitu> nicomachus: ^
[19:51] <lakitu> nicomachus http://pastebin.ca/3739232  sudo apt-get update output
[19:54] <nicomachus> lakitu: yea I'm not really sure man. This is a very weird setup. Why are you trying to update from a USB?
[19:55] <artaoss> anybody know if i'm configuring isolinux.cfg, for a clonezilla based live cd, and i wanna be able to have the boot process pull options from a txt file that i'll need to prepare seperatly & can't roll into the ISO?
[19:55] <lakitu> nicomachus: i am setting up a offline comp - bought the offline repository from OSDisc.com, had another distro sete up like this
[19:56] <artaoss> if i can just put a line in like  ocs_prerun="mount blah /mnt" then ocs_live_run=/mnt/comandfile
[19:56] <stochastix> ducasse: thanks.
[19:59] <konrados> Morning!
[20:00] <stochastix> is 16.10  yakety?
[20:00] <Jonsa> Any networking wizards here? Need some help with bonding mode4 and one connection that drops everything!
[20:01] <Jonsa> http://pastebin.com/CSeYWTic http://pastebin.com/2HcVgE3Z http://pastebin.com/sVH9e1Wf
[20:02] <stochastix> Ok, I see that it is.
[20:04] <yomm> Hi can someone point me in the right direction on how I can 'fix' input devices (eg. /dev/input/hiddev0 and 1) to 'physical devices' so they keep the same order after reboot ?
[20:04] <lakitu> there's some hangup - some stray line, that is making it not recognize the repository (or repositories) when i try to do sudo apt-get install or sudo apt-cache policy
[20:04] <lakitu> nicomachus ^
[20:05] <lakitu> i'm trying to track it down
[20:05] <lakitu> the last one from them worked
[20:05] <lakitu> just switching back to Ubuntu from Mint - prefer Ubuntu
[20:05] <lakitu> for reasons i won't get into now
[20:12] <lakitu> sweet. the owner of osdisc.com says he'll look at a virtual machine recreation of the problem.  it should be sushi after that
[20:12] <Comudex> Hey guys i installed the opensc package however i do not see  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opensc-pkcs11.so in its proper place?
[20:13] <Seveas> that'll be in the relevand -dev package
[20:18] <raub> What can I use to connect (and manage) a xenserver (not just xen)? virt-manager does not seem to want to
[20:21] <lakitu> i've got a kubuntu disc here, anyone know how to integrity-check? using the disc?
[20:21] <nicomachus> !md5sum | lakitu
[20:21] <lakitu> it doesn't supply the option that i see, but maybe if i hold shift or somehting like that
[20:21] <lakitu> alright - just wondered if it had th eoption built in - they always used to
[20:21] <lakitu> maybe not kubuntu's installer, tho
[20:21] <theShirbiny> wow, people are still using md5?
[20:22] <lakitu> theShirbiny: what outdoes it?
[20:23] <OerHeks> or check sha256sum
[20:23] <theShirbiny> lakitu, SHA256
[20:23] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[20:24] <lakitu> it'd be nice to have a check when i boot up, in a little non-main menu, but not that big of a deal
[20:24] <ioria> lakitu, if the disk is already burned, you can't check the iso, you can only check the disk
[20:25] <ctjctj> Hello.  I have a sed question.  I have a string that looks like 'x y z "a b c d" ###'  I want to replace all the space within the quotes with + signs.  I can't find anything in regex that limit the area of the string to be processed.  To replace all it would be simple s/ /+/g  Any clues? My google foo has failed me.
[20:27] <jatt> ctjctj: echo 'x y z "a b c d" ###' | sed 's/[[:space:]]/\+/g'
[20:27] <raub> What is the screen capture thingie that comes in the normal ubuntu desktop install?
[20:27] <ctjctj> jatt, that replaces them all in the string.  I want to restrict the changes to just the substring within the double quotes.
[20:28] <ctjctj> jatt, I don't know if you need the \ on the replacement side of the substitution.
[20:29] <rexwin_> I can't append the date to tar command of Downloads/backup_$(date+%F).tar.gz in the cron job
[20:31] <genii> rexwin_: Put a space before the +
[20:31] <rexwin_> it is not worning with space too
[20:31] <rexwin_> working
[20:32] <ctjctj> genii, isn't the space *before* the +  $(date +%F)
[20:33] <ctjctj> echo $(date +%F)
[20:33] <ctjctj> 2016-11-15
[20:33] <rexwin_> 10 2 * * 3 tar czf /home/raju/Downloads/backup_$(date +%F).tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /testdir/
[20:34] <rexwin_> doesnot work in cron
[20:34] <genii> rexwin_: Put the commands in an executable text file then call that from the cron
[20:34] <ctjctj> rexwin_, break it down and test with a simple echo.  Also do it as genii says.  That way you can see what is happening.
[20:37] <Sircle> sudo service squid start/stop/restart/status. No errors in status or access.logs. How to see its complete startup log?
[20:39] <genii> rexwin_: Also the % might be whats causing you problems there
[20:42] <rexwin_> I put in a executable file and called it through cron and still the issue persists
[20:42] <rexwin_> but running ./testing.sh is fine
[20:43] <genii> rexwin_: Try escaping the % with \% instead
[20:44] <antoon> Hi guys. I'm trying to share internet from wifi to wired, but when I changed my wired to "Share to other computers" and plug in an ethernet cable, it disconnects my wifi. How can I stop it from doing that?
[20:53] <arafat> hi
[20:54] <arafat> is there anyone
[20:54] <arafat> ?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> !ask | arafat
[20:56] <arafat> i installed ubuntu server and i want to add domain to my server. how can i do that ?
[20:57] <terrible> is there a way to speed up the boot of firefox when i launch it cause it take to long im using ubuntu 16 xenial
[20:57] <arkaoss82> anyone here modify live cd's for fun & lols?
[20:57] <Southern_Gentlem> arafat read the documention for the type of service you are wanting to run
[20:58] <linelevel> Hello. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04. Every time I connect to any wifi network, if asks for the password, even though I selected "remember for all users" the last time. When I look in the list of networks, I see a new copy of the network for every time I connect. For example: "My SSID", "My SSID 1", "My SSID 2", etc.
[20:58] <Southern_Gentlem> arkaoss82, in the fedora world yes
[20:58] <linelevel> ^ Does anyone have any suggestions for how to correct this problem?
[20:59] <arafat> Southern_Gentlem, i want this server for publicly access and i got public ip address
[21:00] <Southern_Gentlem> arafat, you have not given enough information to continue
[21:00] <Southern_Gentlem> arafat,  what services will the server be running
[21:06] <walnutbeard> hi
[21:06] <walnutbeard> i just fckin love u guys what a mind blowin system after windows virus :D
[21:06] <energizer2> How can I switch from using my laptop's internal wifi to using the usb adapter?
[21:07] <wlp1s1> energizer2: click the networking button in the tray, next to the clock
[21:07] <walnutbeard> any1 playin hearthstone or anyother blizzard games?
[21:07] <wlp1s1> you should be able to see the other adapter
[21:10] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, if those are windows games, check out #winehq
[21:10] <OerHeks> !wine
[21:10] <arkaoss82> southern_gentlem: no one messes with initrd.img's any more huh?
[21:10] <walnutbeard> yeah sadly windows games usin battlenet application ok searchin web ty
[21:11] <terrible> is there a way to speed up the boot of firefox when i launch it cause it take to long im using ubuntu 16 xenial
[21:11] <walnutbeard> try chromium browser its super fast
[21:12] <OerHeks> terrible, delete the firefox config files and restart?
[21:13] <OerHeks> it is an hidden folder ( ctrl +H )  ~/.mozilla.
[21:16] <ducasse> terrible: or try installing preload
[21:24] <terrible_> OerHeks: i didnt delete any config file
[21:25] <walnutbeard> which one has better performance wine or playonlinux ?
[21:25] <walnutbeard> gonna install hearthstone and autocad
[21:25] <brainwash> walnutbeard: it's both wine under the hood
[21:25] <walnutbeard> ok wine it is then ty
[21:26] <brainwash> walnutbeard: playonlinux makes it easier to install and use different wine versions
[21:26] <OerHeks> POL is just a bunch of scripts to install win apps/games
[21:26] <brainwash> not just scripts
[21:26] <OerHeks> oke, and an option to get a different wine version
[21:26] <brainwash> it makes managing wine easier
[21:27] <walnutbeard> so u suggestion pol?
[21:27] <brainwash> I guess
[21:28] <brainwash> especially if you don't want to mess around in the terminal
[21:28] <brainwash> ideally, test both ways
[21:30] <ollivera> does Rust have a Stream type? I would like to read a tuple from a file and add to a stream?
[21:30] <energizer2> wlp1s1: i don't see any indication of usb in the wifi menu
[21:30] <walnutbeard> ok ty have a nice night
[21:32] <brainwash> ollivera: wrong channel
[21:32] <wlp1s1> energizer2: it probably isn't recognized
[21:33] <wlp1s1> energizer2: try running lsusb and see if you can locate your adapter
[21:33] <energizer2> wlp1s1: i dont see it there
[21:33] <wlp1s1> energizer2: are you sure it's plugged in?
[21:34] <abraham> hello, i installed spotify and now i am not able to uninstall it. i installed it through softwares app, i tried to remove it from softwares app it get removed from there but is still in main apps' menu, and it again appear in softwares too. i tried to do sudo apt-get remove spotify, sudo apt-get purge spotify but it says Unable to locate package spotify
[21:34] <wlp1s1> energizer2: try unplugging and plugging in your adapter, then run dmesg to see if it was recognized
[21:35] <walnutbeard> guys i am stuck on playonlinux page which version should i install ? i am usin Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS x64 desktop
[21:35] <OerHeks> abraham, how did you install spotify ? followed any howto ?
[21:35] <walnutbeard> For the Trusty version or  Saucy version or Precise version?
[21:35] <tex> I have a NAT router. Works fine for everything except for UDP multicast. UDP packets make it to the router, but don't leave. Am I missing something?
[21:35] <abraham> OerHeks, yes i think, it was 10 things to do after installing ubuntu
[21:36] <OerHeks> abraham, if you followed this, https://www.spotify.com/nl/download/linux/ , remove spotify-client
[21:36] <energizer2> wlp1s1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23482575/ I don't really know what i'm looking at in dmesg, but i dont think it changed when i replugged it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23482576/
[21:36] <walnutbeard> abraham also try this sudo apt-get update
[21:37] <brainwash> walnutbeard: you install it from the ubuntu repos
[21:37] <walnutbeard>  u mean software manager?
[21:37] <brainwash> walnutbeard: yes
[21:37] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, for 16.04, use the noobslab ppa http://askubuntu.com/questions/770687/how-to-install-playonlinux-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:37] <brainwash> walnutbeard: or sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[21:37] <walnutbeard> but when i search playonlinux nothin appears
[21:38] <abraham> OerHeks, that is a link to install it, i installed spotify like that
[21:38] <walnutbeard> ok thanks
[21:39] <wlp1s1> energizer2: i don't really know, you should probably ask in ##linux
[21:40] <wlp1s1> it has more to do with the kernel than ubuntu itself
[21:40] <abraham> walnutbeard, i did sudo apt-get update, and then sudo apt-get remove spotify, but still it says , E: Unable to locate package spotify
[21:40] <walnutbeard> well abraham i am newbie too but when i get error it works sometimes :/
[21:40] <OerHeks> abraham, read again > spotify-client
[21:41] <walnutbeard> that page says noobslab.com for 16.04 version. i am usin 16.04.1 version of ubuntu does it matter ?
[21:41] <abraham> OerHeks, :) thanks
[21:41] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, no
[21:42] <abraham> OerHeks, can you teach me how to look for a package real name for removal ?
[21:43] <OerHeks> abraham, one way is to check the guide you followed, or install synaptic, a more detailed softwarecenter
[21:43] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[21:43] <walnutbeard> is there a good training videos for ubuntu ? i wanna learn deep downs of this amazin code system smooth as hell
[21:43] <OerHeks> synaptic got some nice filers, like showing packages in that ppa
[21:44] <OerHeks> c/filters
[21:44] <abraham> OerHeks, thank you, i got it. and it solves my problems :)
[21:45] <tex> I guess my question is too hard for this IRC...
[21:45] <walnutbeard> which distro mr robot usin in tv serie? :d
[21:45] <usr13> tex: What's  your question?
[21:45] <tgm4883> tex: what do you mean they don't leave?
[21:45] <xangua> walnutbeard: don't know but he uses utorrent :-\
[21:45] <tex> I have an Ubuntu NAT router. Works fine for everything except for UDP multicast. UDP packets make it to the router, but don't leave. Am I missing something?
[21:46] <hay> hi all... I am using USB sound card through pci passthrough on a proxmox VM and would like to totally disable the sound card on host... upon booting, a message usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio is displayed on host... how can I disable it? thanks
[21:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> tex: what are you using for multicast routing?
[21:46] <tgm4883> tex: you made a point to mention it's a NAT router, are you trying to go between vlans with your multicast traffic?
[21:47] <walnutbeard> piratebay ftw :D
[21:47] <tex> The NAT device has two wlans and an eth. Incoming UDP traffic on eth0. wlan0 is used for AP
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> i've never done multicast over nat, sounds like a nightmare.
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> tex: using PIM?
[21:47] <tex> I can see all of the incoming UDP traffic via tcpdump.
[21:48] <tex> not using PIM
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> so then which multicast routing protocol are you using?
[21:48] <tex> dnsmasq, hostapd and iptables is all I'm using
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh. then yea, you don't have multicast routing :P
[21:48] <tex> maybe that's what I'm missing...
[21:48] <tgm4883> tex: there's extra stuff to setup. By design, multicast doesn't pass routers
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> multicast routing is... "crazy".
[21:49] <tex> I'm just calling maddr to add the ip addresses
[21:49] <tex> right?
[21:49] <tex> so, you say PIM is the way to go? over mrouted?
[21:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> step one is to moderate your expectations: you're in for a deep dive into a bottomless rabbit hole.
[21:50] <tex> haha fair enough... I'm already one shoe in
[21:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> thankfully, all i have left of my multicast routing experience is ptsd :P
[21:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> unfortunately, that means i won't be of much (read: any) help here.
[21:50] <tex> understood
[21:51] <tex> hey, at least I know where to start
[21:51] <tex> much appreciated
[21:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> depending on your topology, you need to pick dense/sparse mode.
[21:51] <tex> oh god...
[21:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> or i guess there's 2 other variants too.
[21:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> yea. it's bad :P
[21:52] <tex> so, perhaps this?
[21:52] <tex> http://troglobit.com/pimd.html
[21:53] <tgm4883> I tried setting up multicast routing once in order to play civ 5 across some vlans. I gave up
[22:02] <rexwin_> when trying to scp using sudo i get scp: /home/ubuntu/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz: Permission denied
[22:02] <jatt> you don't have permissions either to read or write
[22:02] <walnutbeard> can i change folder background color from white to black and font color to white ?
[22:03] <usr13> rexwin_: ls -l /home/ubuntubackup_2016-11-16.tar.gz
[22:03] <usr13> rexwin_: But you should tell us the complete command so we can see what else might be wrong.
[22:04] <walnutbeard> such as when u right click on screen as u see black background and white fonts
[22:04] <usr13> rexwin_: Also du
[22:04] <rexwin_> this is what I ran :            scp /home/raju/Downloads/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz ubuntu@<IP_ADDRESS>:~
[22:04] <usr13> rexwin_: df
[22:04] <rexwin_> sudo scp too doesnot work
[22:04] <usr13> ~?
[22:05] <rexwin_> disk space is ok
[22:05] <usr13> rexwin_: sudo will not help you
[22:05] <jatt> you don't have rights on the remote machine
[22:06] <jatt> as ubuntu user
[22:06] <jatt> maybe there is a backup*gz file already there that cannot be overwritten
[22:07] <usr13> rexwin_: Does user "ubuntu" have a home directory on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:07] <rexwin_> yes it does
[22:07] <sliddis> what is the correct command to restart networks to get new IP???
[22:07] <usr13> rexwin_: and again, what is "~" for?
[22:07] <sliddis> sudo ifdown ifup ens192 doesnt work
[22:07] <jatt> ~ is /home/ubuntu
[22:07] <rexwin_> yeah
[22:07] <Epx998> Trying to setup dnsmasq using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install wiki, clients are hanging at "error: variable `prefix' isn't set" not sure what to check for this error.
[22:08] <jatt> try
[22:08] <jatt> scp /home/raju/Downloads/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz ubuntu@<IP_ADDRESS>:/tmp/
[22:08] <usr13> rexwin_: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ls
[22:09] <usr13> rexwin_: or ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>df
[22:09] <usr13> jatt: Why would he put it in /tmp/ ?
[22:10] <rexwin_> listed all the remote files ------------->ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>l
[22:10] <walnutbeard> can i change folder background color from white to black and font color to white ?any1 know ?
[22:10] <usr13> jatt: might work though....
[22:10] <jatt> just to test
[22:11] <jatt> to me either he doesn't have rights to write to Downloads or there is already a backup*gz file there from another user
[22:11] <usr13> walnutbeard: Are you looking for terminal menu options?
[22:11] <rexwin_> this worked scp /home/raju/Downloads/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz ubuntu@<IP_ADDRESS>:/tmp/
[22:12] <usr13> jatt: Probably the latter
[22:12] <Amm0n> sftp > scp
[22:12] <rexwin_> but I want to scp to /home/ubuntu like ~
[22:12] <walnutbeard> not for terminal normal folder colors
[22:12] <walnutbeard> home files documents etc
[22:12] <usr13> what is the "~" for?
[22:12] <tex> Epx998: why don't you just setup dnsmasq yourself? you'll be surprised how easy it it
[22:12] <rexwin_> home directory
[22:13] <rexwin_> tilde is for that
[22:13] <usr13> rexwin_<EMAIL_ADDRESS> *is* the home directory.
[22:14] <usr13> rexwin_: ... so you do not need the ~
[22:14] <jatt> at least on bash ~ is $HOME
[22:14] <rexwin_> Permission denied for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:14] <usr13> so why type the ~ for no reason?
[22:15] <rexwin_> either way it is denying
[22:15] <usr13> rexwin_: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:15] <jatt> ~ is tilde expansion, it's common usage
[22:15] <usr13> rexwin_: Can you ssh into <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:15] <rexwin_> yes it lists
[22:15] <usr13> jatt: Well, I would never use it, never have because it is not needed.
[22:15] <rexwin_> listed all the remote files ------------->ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>l
[22:16] <usr13> rexwin_:  And what are the ownerships?
[22:16] <nicomachus> rexwin_: let's back up. what exactly are you trying to do? copy folders from this remote pc?
[22:16] <station1> i have a complicated server setup in a VM cloned it to a HDD    Ubuntu16.04 server starts perfectly only ethernet isent configured RTL8111GR i presume  ——firmware-realtek — — is the package. is there a comand to reconfigure/reinstall it without internet?
[22:16] <rexwin_> from one vm to another vm bot ubuntu
[22:16] <usr13> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ls -ld /home/ubuntu
[22:16] <rexwin_> both
[22:17] <usr13> rexwin_: "from one vm to another vm bot ubuntu"?  Is it on two different computers?
[22:17] <rexwin_> dr-xr-xr-x 20 ubuntu ubuntu 12288 Oct 28 11:10 /home/ubuntu
[22:17] <kai> exit
[22:17] <rexwin_> no both are in my laptop
[22:18] <usr13> rexwin_: There are other ways to transfer files from one vm to another.
[22:18] <walnutbeard> can we apply any other themes for ubuntu 16 ? ambiance radiance high contrast what else ?
[22:18] <rexwin_> I am wondering why scp is throwing the error
[22:18] <jatt> permissions issue
[22:18] <usr13> rexwin_: Are you sure there is space on the virtual HD?
[22:19] <Amm0n> rexwin_, because user ubuntu doesn't have write permission
[22:19] <rexwin_> yes it is and one of the ubuntu machines has DNS installed
[22:19] <station1> Help please: have a complicated server setup in a VM cloned it to a HDD    Ubuntu16.04 server starts perfectly only ethernet isent configured RTL8111GR i presume  ——firmware-realtek — — is the package. is there a comand to reconfigure/reinstall it without internet?
[22:19] <usr13> jatt: Yes, you are correct, no write permissions to /home/ubuntu
[22:20] <thanzeon> Hi everyone! i'm trying to set up a virtual machine for some projects of mine, i'm using Ubuntu 16.10 64 bit, VMWare Workstation pro 12 and Win 10 with an Intel i7 6700 HQ. The installation and first run go as smooth as possible, however, after the first reboot within the first 10 / 15 seconds it appears a message saying "The CPU has been disabled
[22:20] <thanzeon> by the guest operating system." no warnings or errors, the vm just freeze and i get the message from VMWare. This is the second time i do a complete reinstall of the vm. Any thoughts?
[22:20] <usr13> rexwin_: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and sudo chmod +w /home/ubuntu
[22:20] <usr13> rexwin_: But how would that happen?
[22:22] <rexwin_> thanks usr13
[22:22] <rexwin_> it went scp'ing after sudo chmod +w /home/ubuntu
[22:22] <Kireji> runn an npm server loaclly on port 3000, but when I point my browser to that machien from outside, no connection.  cannot figure out why
[22:23] <usr13> rexwin_: Yep. There'
[22:23] <usr13> There's usually always a secret reason for ubuntu mystery
[22:24] <Squarism> i have ubuntu 14.04 and i run a software called hexchat with version 2.9.6. Its 3 yeards old. How do install the latest hexchat 2.12.x?
[22:24] <Squarism> ...using apt-get
[22:24] <Squarism> sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade hexchat
[22:24] <Squarism> just gives me 2.9.6
[22:24] <Bashing-om> !info hexchat | trusty
[22:25] <usr13> Squarism: Clever!
[22:25] <stan_man_can> If I have a binary that I want to run as a service, where should it reside in the filesystem?
[22:25] <stan_man_can> this machine is dedicated to running this binary, which is an HTTP server
[22:25] <Squarism> Bashing-om, what does that tell me?
[22:26] <energizer1> Can you suggest a tiny usb wifi adapter for a laptop?
[22:26] <usr13> stan_man_can: Depends on what you are running.  But really, it is up to you.
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Squarism: Package management system broke ? I be checking what should be .
[22:27] <stan_man_can> usr13, any suggestions?
[22:27] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, /opt
[22:27] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, thanks
[22:27] <thanzeon> no one?
[22:28] <Squarism> Bashing-om, is my package management system broke?
[22:28] <kostkon> Squarism, they offer two ppas. Use at your own risk. https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html   Looks like the glebihan PPA offers the latest version.
[22:28] <usr13> stan_man_can: /lib/systemd/system/foo.service
[22:29] <walnutbeard> i installed playonlinux and installed battlenet application but when i press hearthstone to log in i get program error does any1 playin hearthstone or any blizzard games?
[22:29] <usr13> stan_man_can: systemctl enable foo.service
[22:29] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, should the binary sit directly in /opt or within a subdirectory?
[22:29] <Squarism> kostkon, ok.. so latest version is not compiled for trusty?
[22:29] <stan_man_can> usr13, sorry I was more asking where should the actual application binary go
[22:29] <Squarism> kostkon, in the default ppa's
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Squarism: Nope; Per : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hexchat&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all version <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu0.1  is the latest available in the repo for trusty install .
[22:30] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, that's up to you^
[22:30] <usr13> stan_man_can: In your path
[22:30] <usr13> stan_man_can: You can use /home/stan/bin/
[22:31] <usr13> stan_man_can: If it is in your path
[22:31] <usr13> stan_man_can: /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin etc. etc.
[22:31] <kostkon> Squarism, the stable ppa offers the stable version which you already have
[22:31] <Squarism> Bashing-om, kostkon thanks for showing me that
[22:31] <walnutbeard> do u understand this codes guys? https://codepaste.net/vjt912
[22:32] <Squarism> what is the most popular irc client on ubuntu?
[22:32] <Karl1000> Heyo
[22:32] <usr13> Squarism: irssi
[22:32] <Bashing-om> Squarism: Check our irssi . It is terminal and fast .
[22:33] <usr13> Squarism: (it's most popular with me :)
[22:33] <walnutbeard> should i do some settings on playonlinux ? https://codepaste.net/vjt912
[22:34] <station1> Help please: have a complicated server setup in a VM cloned it to a HDD    Ubuntu16.04 server starts perfectly only ethernet isent configured RTL8111GR i presume  ——firmware-realtek — — is the package. is there a comand to reconfigure/reinstall it without internet?
[22:34] <stan_man_can> usr13, Amm0n thanks guys
[22:34] <stan_man_can> Maybe i'll toss it in /opt for a now and see
[22:34] <stan_man_can> trying to figure this systemd thing out
[22:35] <Seth> bonne nuit à tous.
[22:35] <karlw> Squarism testing irssi.. TERMINAL BLIZZ - noobs not allowed. So rooot
[22:35] <karlw> help
[22:35] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[22:35] <walnutbeard> did i banned from channel :/
[22:36] <Bashing-om> stan_man_can: Have you seen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers ? Maybe help there to understand .
[22:36] <Squarism> nope.. irssi isnt for me
[22:36] <Squarism> terminal is not cool
[22:36] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, thanks
[22:37] <Bashing-om> karlw: UH uhh .. Do not run irssi as root . Huge security hole doing that .
[22:37] <stan_man_can> Bashing-om, I took a look earlier, the comparison to upstart doesn't help since i'm not familiar with either system, but it's still got lots of good info
[22:38] <kostkon> walnutbeard, doubt it, more like disconnected
[22:38] <stan_man_can> Bashing-om, Just to confirm, can systemd also be responsible for restarting a service if it dies?
[22:39] <Det87> A_F_K:
[22:39] <Det87> aarontc:
[22:39] <Det87> Aayush:
[22:39] <Det87> abra0:
[22:39] <Det87> Acn0w:
[22:39] <Det87> Acou_Bass:
[22:39] <_je_ne_veux_pas_> wat?
[22:39] <kostkon> just a bot
[22:39] <_je_ne_veux_pas_> ahh
[22:40] <brainwash> walnutbeard: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28855
[22:41] <brainwash> walnutbeard: read that. and if you don't understand any of it, go to #playonlinux
[22:41] <walnutbeard> ok ty
[22:46] <Bashing-om> stan_man_can: In systemd , yeah .. systemd is repsonsible to control all services .
[22:52] <walnutbeard> 1 last question for today playonlinux wine configuration page which version of windows should i use? xp or 7 for better performance?
[22:56] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[22:59] <squinty> walnutbeard, might want to ask in #playonlinux channel
[23:02] <Ludwig> I actually dont know if this is the right channel for my question. I have some problems getting a simple bash-script to work. I just want to concat 2 string variables and put them into another string, but my variables always get mixed up and they "overlap". for example if I put in ${name):${pw} the output will be :123ig anstatt Ludwig:123
[23:03] <geirha> Ludwig: sounds like there are carriage return characters in one of those variables. How did they get assigned?
[23:03] <thanzeon> REUP - Hi everyone! i'm trying to set up a virtual machine for some projects of mine, i'm using Ubuntu 16.10 64 bit, VMWare Workstation pro 12 and Win 10 with an Intel i7 6700 HQ. The installation and first run go as smooth as possible, however, after the first reboot within the first 10 / 15 seconds it appears a message saying "The CPU has been di
[23:03] <thanzeon> sabled by the guest operating system." no warnings or errors, the vm just freeze and i get the message from VMWare. This is the second time i do a complete reinstall of the vm. Any thoughts?
[23:04] <geirha> (I also assume the ')' was a typo)
[23:04] <Ludwig> yes that was a typo
[23:04] <Ludwig> name="Ludwig"
[23:04] <Ludwig> pw="123"
[23:04] <Ludwig> echo "${name}:${pw}";
[23:04] <Ludwig> thats my whole script
[23:05] <geirha> ok, then the editor you used saved the file with dos/windows line endings, instead of unix line endings
[23:05] <Schaap> echo "Ludwig:123";
[23:05] <Schaap> fixed
[23:05] <Guest37361> I logged out of "try ubuntu" mode booting off a USB stick, how do I log back in?
[23:05] <geirha> See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052
[23:05] <Ludwig> thanks geirha seems like that was exactly the problem
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Guest37361: Key combo ctl+F7 ??
[23:11] <Guest37361> Hi all, I logged out of "try ubuntu studio" mode booting off a USB stick, was testing to see if I have screencapture issues with Cinnamon install. This requires logging out and logging back in with the chosen desktop environment. But since this is a trail run with no installation there is no user or password. Anybody know what the default is?
[23:31] <OerHeks> Guest37361, cinnamon install in live iso of ubuntu studio ?
[23:33] <OerHeks> grinn, never seen anyone trying to install a desktop in a live environment, but the standard login is user: blanc and password: ubuntu
[23:33] <Ludwig> I am having trouble again with a rather simple bash script. I am trying to source a script and use the variables of the other script. but my sourcing always fails with an "testbash.sh: source: not found" error.
[23:33] <dStruct> is there an easier way to start something from the CLI into a particular workspace without doing crazy wmctrl witchcraft?
[23:34] <OerHeks> Ludwig, use full /path/to/file ?
[23:35] <Ludwig> I tried the full path but the error was the same. I am able to "sh /vagrant/github_login.sh", but when I try to source it "source /vagrant/github_login.sh" I get the not found error
[23:36] <nacc> Ludwig: fyi sh is not bash necessarily
[23:36] <nacc> Ludwig: also you may want to ask in the bash channel
[23:36] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[23:37] <Ludwig> nacc: okay then I will try it in the bash channel, thanks. Although I dont fully understand the first part of your answer. I am using "#!/usr/bin/env bash" at the start of my file
[23:38] <nacc> Ludwig: you said you run 'sh ...' sh is not necesarily the bash; by default on Ubuntu, sh is dash
[23:38] <nacc> Ludwig: maybe unrelated, but just a point to consider
[23:39] <walnutbeard> hi i just installed ubuntu for 3 hours i guess why i get this error 3rd time https://postimg.org/image/hnr08hca7/
[23:39] <walnutbeard> sorry ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error
[23:39] <dStruct> I'm trying to open a large number of gnome-terminals spread over 4 workspaces, but it's not cooperating at all, wmctrl -d shows one large workspace yet I cannot --geometry over to where things need to be
[23:41] <walnutbeard> also there is a topic in askubuntu same without answer
[23:43] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, just hit 'continue'to send the bugreport, i cannot find https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602855 as described in that screenshot
[23:43] <OerHeks> nothing we can do about it, actually
[23:43] <nacc> OerHeks: it's a private bug
[23:43] <Amm0n> dStruct, maybe you want to use tmux
[23:44] <nacc> OerHeks: no extra info in it, unfortunately
[23:44] <walnutbeard> well i pressed now can u check again plz?
[23:44] <dStruct> Amm0n: does it handle multi-window, I thought tmux would only do splitting of a single window?
[23:45] <OerHeks> nacc, ah private, oke
[23:45] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, nope
[23:45] <walnutbeard> any clue from picture?
[23:46] <dStruct> Amm0n: basically I have 15 gnome-terminals running ckermit to display 80x100 windows that can't really be sized much smaller, and I need quick access to monitor them
[23:47] <Amm0n> dStruct, it does only use a single window but you can use multiple sessions
[23:47] <dStruct> Amm0n: yeah I could do that, or screen, but I want to have everything up and visible.  Also my techs don't know linux that well so it has to be super simple for them
[23:47] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, what were you trying to do when this happened?
[23:49] <lordcirth> dStruct, I think you can script tmux to automatically open certain windows with programs running
[23:50] <dStruct> lordcirth: the issue is how can you open the tmux window with the click of an icon in Unity and have it place it on say workspace 2
[23:50] <lordcirth> dStruct, well here's a start: https://github.com/aaronhalford/tmux-scripts
[23:50] <dStruct> lordcirth: currently I have 3 gnome-terminals open with --geometry on workspace 1 (whatever is up at the time you click) and it works perfectly
[23:50] <dStruct> lordcirth: hey thanks
[23:53] <OerHeks> !cookie | lordcirth
[23:53] <lordcirth> lol
[23:59] <bjpenn> does apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade every single package on the system including third party ones like docker-engine?
[23:59] <Ben64> if it was installed using apt, yeah it'll grab the latest from whatever repository


[05:13] <valorie> ahoneybun: a link to scribus? not sure why you posted that
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:41] <apachelogger> it's so tediously hard to get a good amount of opinion out of the mailing list -.-
[08:42] <valorie> indeed
[08:43] <valorie> it's like a vein of gold when there is a great, helpful discussion
[09:22] <apachelogger> localization is driving me nuts :@
[09:34] <apachelogger> 'a new version of kubuntu is available'
[09:34] <apachelogger> ...
[09:34] <apachelogger> some bugs...
[11:29] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1201180] Pressing power button turns off the PC ignoring the presence of another session manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1201180 (by Marco Trevisan (Treviño))
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:21] <Riddell> alpha 2 testing needed shortly!
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Riddell, at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/trusty/alpha2 ?
[12:28] <Riddell> BluesKaj: daily images need testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[12:29] <Riddell> they'll need a respin but an smoke test of the current images for more issues would be great
[12:35] <yossarianuk> hi - is there anywhere to vote for the KDE version for 14.04?
[12:36] <yossarianuk> 4.14 has my vote...
[12:36] <yossarianuk> *4.13*
[12:37] <Riddell> yossarianuk: it's not a vote but there's a discussion on the kubuntu-devel mailing list
[13:04] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6791488/
[13:04] <apachelogger> my oh my, what possibly could this be ;)
[13:05] <Riddell> a contextless pastebin url, could be dangerous
[13:06] <apachelogger> it's a space ship!
[13:06] <Riddell> ah, l10n, takes you to the moon!
[13:07] <apachelogger> and there's this
[13:07] <apachelogger> Linking CXX shared library lib/libKubuntu.so
[13:07] <apachelogger> :O
[13:07] <Riddell> what the heck is libKubuntu?
[13:08] <shadeslayer> sounds like magic
[13:08] <yofel> sounds like fun :D
[13:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you get anyone to test suspend without pm-utils installed?
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no :(
[13:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you remove pm-utils?
[13:08] <yofel> uh, ping me to do that in the evening
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and com.upstart.ubuntu keeps disappearing at times for me
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes
[13:08] <shadeslayer> erm
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: from the seed ? nope
[13:09] <shadeslayer> because ubuntu still ships it
[13:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how does that prevent it being removed?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> ~ » qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart                                                                                shadeslayer@solembum
[13:09] <shadeslayer> Service 'com.ubuntu.Upstart' does not exist.
[13:09] <shadeslayer> ^^ so weird
[13:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: it's for<PHONE_NUMBER>003560 T _ZN7Kubuntu4L10n17isSupportCompleteEv
[13:09] <Riddell> `qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart`  works for me
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apparently some scripts from pm-utils do HDD power management stuff
[13:10] <shadeslayer> see /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d  and /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah, not sure why I don't have it
[13:11] <shadeslayer> muon-updater be broken too :(
[13:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can't, no com.upstart.ubuntu xD
[13:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: my machine here just shuts down instead of suspending when I use the kickoff menu, but suspends fine when I close the lid, but that's the weird windows uefi machine I'm using while my main laptop gets fixed and for all I know it was always broken
[13:13] <shadeslayer> huh, interesting
[13:13] <shadeslayer> I did test suspending, and it worked fine via kickoff
[13:13] <shadeslayer> ( as well as lid shutdown )
[13:13] <Riddell> mm so I may not be the best person to test it
[13:18]  * yofel added a bunch of 4.13 deadlines on trello
[13:23] <sgclark> morning all
[13:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1258098
[13:42] <shadeslayer> explains the lack of com.ubuntu.Upstart
[14:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: I am going to hardcode UTF8 encoding for setlanguage.sh
[14:41] <apachelogger> I have no clue where Qt/KDE gets the bogus ISO encoding from but there is no sane way to handle this
[14:41] <apachelogger> if someone actually wants to use !utf8 then they simply mustn't use our tools
[14:42] <apachelogger> (ubuntu does the same it appears)
[14:48] <sgclark> Riddell: when you have time I need you to look at new kdoctools files, one in PPA is broken.
[14:54] <Riddell> sgclark: looking at the review comments now on https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115065/
[14:54] <Riddell> sgclark: but you have a new package in your ubuntu one share?
[14:55] <sgclark> Riddell: a few , but kdoctools mmost important
[15:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: git@git.kde.org:scratch/sitter/libkubuntu
[15:11] <apachelogger> very much work in progress, but it actually can replace 90% of the KCM logic already
[15:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: why does it need a separate library?
[15:11] <apachelogger> plus all the tech for providing "yo, your translations be incomplete, want me to fix dat?" notifications
[15:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'd call it libkubuntui18n, just libkubuntu is quite generic
[15:12] <apachelogger> it aint
[15:12] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/uelBh2rX
[15:12] <apachelogger> libkubuntu is supposed to be generic
[15:12] <apachelogger> I am not going around creating random libraries whenever we need a library :P
[15:13] <Riddell> ok fair enough
[15:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: anywho... as to why we need a library for l10n to begin with a) incompleteness of support notifications cannot be issued by the KCM as the KCM requires a user to start it ;) b) the more rubbish I get moved outside the locale patch the easier it is to fiddle it into upstreamable genericism
[15:15] <Riddell> I like your thinking
[15:15] <apachelogger> oh, also c) having it littered all over the place in the KCM makes it hard to reuse the logic in the future
[15:15] <apachelogger> i.e. someone would have to detangle it then, rather than me now
[15:16]  * apachelogger afk for coffee break
[15:16] <soee> :)
[15:25] <Riddell> gosh KF5 alpha 1 next week
[15:32] <yofel> btw
[15:32] <yofel> !testers | 4.12.1 is done in ninjas for saucy
[15:32] <yofel> works fine for me
[15:33] <soee> Riddell: thats bad ? :)
[15:34] <Riddell> more work! eek!
[15:34] <Riddell> we need to clone sgclark
[15:35] <sgclark> I have a bunch ready waiting for kdoctools!
[15:36] <Riddell> sgclark: sorry will get on it next
[15:36] <Riddell> kf5 meeting in #kde-devel now should you be interested
[15:36] <sgclark> ok
[15:37] <Riddell> sgclark: tsk, should have been s/he's/here's/
[15:37] <sgclark> ahh sorry
[15:42] <soee> the current kernel 3.13 is stable or RC ?
[15:44] <yofel> 3.13.0-5.20 is v3.13 according to the changelog
[15:48] <Riddell> sgclark: what's the issue with kdoctools? the package in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages compiles fine
[15:49] <sgclark> remember we had to change the kde5/apps data path, that one is compiled with bad path
[15:49] <sgclark> in turn breaking everything
[15:51] <Riddell> aah
[15:52] <sgclark> Riddell: If a package has multiple .so files do I need to split it up or something? lintian exploded on KIO heh
[15:53] <Riddell> sgclark: for shared libaries we generally make 1 package per library
[15:54] <Riddell> for plugins we generally stick those in the library package that most suits it
[15:54] <Riddell> plugins go into /usr/lib/*/kde5/
[15:54] <Riddell> libraries in /usr/lib/*/libfoo.so
[15:54] <Riddell> sgclark: pastebin the file list if you want a review
[15:54] <sgclark> ok
[15:57] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6792288/
[15:58] <sgclark> Riddell: so just add all the extra packages in control right?
[15:59] <Riddell> sgclark: yes, 4 different lib packages
[15:59] <Riddell> sgclark: but only 1 -dev needed
[15:59] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[15:59] <Riddell> and maybe a kio-plugins for usr/lib/*/kde5/* and usr/lib/*/qt5/*
[15:59] <Riddell> what's in usr/bin ?
[16:00] <sgclark> Riddell: kcookiejar5 kmailservice ktelenetservice executables
[16:02] <Riddell> so I think 1 package with the plugins and share files and the binaries
[16:02] <Riddell> not sure what to call it though
[16:02] <Riddell> kio-kioslaves ?
[16:02] <Riddell> kio-slaves?
[16:02] <Riddell> kio-plugins ?
[16:03] <Riddell> we have kdesdk-kio-plugins from kde4
[16:03] <sgclark> lets stick with kf5kio-plugins then
[16:03] <Riddell> groovy
[16:04] <Riddell> sgclark: new kdoctools uploaded
[16:05] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks!
[16:05] <Riddell> your package wasn't synced to the ppa so I just changed the install path from the one in the ppa
[16:05] <Riddell> sgclark: your kpty package should have the build-deps updated for the ones that were renamed libfoo5-dev to libfoo-dev
[16:06]  * Riddell does so#
[16:09] <BluesKaj> had to revert to the 3.13.0-4-generic kernel, splash screen process froze at the hdd icon on the 3.13.0-5-generic kernel
[16:10] <Riddell> sgclark: did you get this "exclude" syntax from somewhere? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6792344/
[16:10] <BluesKaj> the default  Air and Elarun Splash Screen that is
[16:11] <sgclark> Riddell: copyright helper
[16:11] <Riddell> sgclark: ok I've not seen that before but I assume it knows what it's doing
[16:12] <Riddell> sgclark: kpty uploaded!
[16:17] <sgclark> Riddell: ty, kcompletion was not installing dev files because the install file was icorrectly named
[16:20] <Riddell> sgclark: kcompletion uploaded!
[16:20] <sgclark> Riddell: ty very much
[16:26] <Riddell> ooh new isos!
[16:26] <Riddell> !testers | alpha 2 candidates
[16:28] <soee> cool, sadly for me lightdm not working :/
[16:29] <Riddell> soee: on the images?
[16:29] <soee> Riddell: no didnt test images
[16:30] <sgclark> Riddell: what was the error on kpty?
[16:32] <lordievader> Using kvm to test is fine right?
[16:32] <lordievader> Test Alpha2 I mean.
[16:36] <Riddell> sgclark: build-depens libkf5ki18n5-dev -> libkf5ki18n-dev
[16:37] <Riddell> and for widgetcore5
[16:37] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh ok, that keeps biting me, sorry
[16:38] <Riddell> lordievader: yes that's all useful
[16:39] <lordievader> Ok great :D
[17:15] <sgclark> Riddell: something is going on with kcoreaddons amd64 build on PPA. It fails a test, I ran it here on pbuilder and everything passes and builds. not sure what to do now
[17:16] <Riddell> is that the one which moans about /root/.ssh ?
[17:17] <sgclark> yes
[17:17] <sgclark> and I have depnds on it so holding me up :(
[17:18] <Riddell> it seems to only fail sometimes
[17:18] <Riddell> and pass other times
[17:18] <Riddell> in the PPA builder
[17:19] <Riddell> mm it gets a timeout
[17:21] <Riddell> the build log shows it actually does get the signal sent but it still timesout
[17:21] <Riddell> well probably easiest if we just disable that test :(
[17:24] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded with test disabled
[17:25] <jussi> Riddell: glad you like them. hope they stick nicely
[17:26] <jussi> even with the tax, for that quality it was pretty decently priced methinks.
[17:27] <jussi> apachelogger: Im under the influence of drugs/medication at the moment - Im hoping to get that activities thing done once Im better. but if someone else has nothign to do and can do it, I really dont mind
[17:27] <Riddell> jussi: a nice addition to this laptop
[17:27] <jussi> :=)
[17:29] <sgclark> Riddell: thank you, I donn't see it scheduled for a build, how long does that usually take?
[17:30] <Riddell> sgclark: I made a typo during upload, trying again
[17:30] <sgclark> Riddell: ok :)
[17:30] <Riddell> usually takes < 5 minutes I think
[19:13] <sgclark> Riddell: kconfigwidgets is ready for you, alot depend on this one.
[19:15] <Riddell> lovely
[19:17] <Riddell> sgclark: needs build-dep on libkf5codecs-dev
[19:19] <sgclark> Riddell: hmm it does
[19:20] <sgclark> Riddell: it is listed in control file, not sure what you mean
[19:20] <Riddell> sgclark: oh yes, ignore me
[19:20] <sgclark> lol ok
[19:27] <Riddell> sgclark: lovely, uploaded!
[19:27] <sgclark> thanks!
[19:30] <sgclark> Riddell: kwindowsystem update, removed the 5 from the dev binary
[19:39] <sgclark> Riddell: kdbusaddons as well removed 5 from -dev package
[20:05] <sgclark> Riddell: knotification for after kwindowsystem for dependency
[20:07] <sgclark> Riddell: again for kcrash
[20:11] <sgclark> Riddell: ^^ kwallet_framework
[20:21] <lordievader> Riddell: Alpha2 installs nicely on KVM :)
[20:31] <Riddell> lordievader: great
[20:32] <Riddell> sgclark: thanks, I think I'll have to get to them tomorrow, off out not
[20:39] <sgclark> Riddell: no problem
[20:39] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: lordievader can I test the images in a VM?
[20:40] <lordievader> ahoneybun_: Jup, tested here with KVM. Starting to like KVM :)
[20:41] <ahoneybun_> sweet
[20:41] <ahoneybun_> Riddell: want me to make a banner for the 14.04 release?
[20:42] <ahoneybun_> lordievader: where are the images?
[20:42] <ahoneybun_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/trusty/ just alpha 1
[20:42] <lordievader> ahoneybun_: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[20:43] <ahoneybun_> lordievader: very nice page full of great info
[21:03] <BluesKaj> ok the new alpha2 default kernel is 3.13.0-5-generic?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> I don't install dailies, just update/upgrade and dist-upgrade, assuming that should be sufficient
[21:10] <soee> BluesKaj: yes i had this update today
[21:10] <soee> to 3.13.0-5
[21:12] <BluesKaj> soee, yeah, i have it on kubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 14.04
[21:15] <BluesKaj> testing gnome3 just for fun, guess I'm getting bored :)
[21:16] <BluesKaj> still not my cup of tea though
[21:17] <soee> :)
[21:18] <soee> i left that part behind me like 2 years ago, i switched to gnome, different distros and in  the end
[21:18] <soee> always back to Kubuntu
[21:18] <soee> simply the best kde distro
[21:20] <BluesKaj> kde is so much more flexible configuration-wise than unity and gnome. I really don't understand the kind of loyalty it has
[21:20] <BluesKaj> gnome that is
[21:21] <BluesKaj> unity is alost cause IMO, it's really quite hopeless
[21:22] <ahoneybun_> I like the design in GNOME 3 but the feature are so low
[21:22] <ahoneybun_> *features
[21:24] <BluesKaj> yeah, not enough to keep me using it as a main desktop
[21:25] <BluesKaj> I'm too used to kde to change now
[21:26] <soee> i wonder how the next version will work based on kf5
[21:42] <BluesKaj> kf5 looks like an interesting project, has anyone tried to implement it along with the Qt5 release the other day
[21:43] <BluesKaj> ?
[22:24]  * ahoneybun_ is going to test the new alpha in a vm as soon as it downloads
[23:03] <Riddell> ahoneybun_: do report any results on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/310/builds/61646/testcases


[00:50] <zuixro> Did anyone have MythWeb randomly stop working the other day? I just get a generic "Your site is working" page. I tried reinstalling mythweb and it didn't fix it.
[00:51] <zuixro> I'm running .24-fixes
[02:19] <Patrickdk> fine for me
[02:38] <tgm4883> !0byte
[02:38] <Zinn> Do you get 0-byte recordings? Please help us track it down by posting information about it in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10459420
[02:41] <patdk-lap> no 0byte here
[03:23] <mycosys> would any of the package maintainers happen to be here?
[03:25] <mycosys> want to ask you to add a metapackage to jaunty 0.22 fixes
[03:26] <mycosys> or modify libmythtv-perl to add provides libyth-perl
[03:26] <mycosys> so that i can install mythexport without breaking package management on the system
[03:55] <tgm4883> mycosys, there aren't any more 0.22 builds
[03:55] <tgm4883> nor is it easy to make any
[03:55] <tgm4883> what do you need it for?
[03:56] <mycosys> to make mythexport work
[03:56] <tgm4883> Thanks, I gathered that much
[03:56] <mycosys> libmyth-perl changed name to libmythtv-perl
[03:56] <tgm4883> so mythexport is depending on libmyth-perl then?
[03:57] <mycosys> just need a dummy package named libmyth-perl that depends libmythtv-perl
[03:57] <mycosys> yup
[03:57] <tgm4883> mycosys, would it work if mythexport depended on libmythtv-perl instead?
[03:57] <mycosys> probably
[03:57] <tgm4883> ok
[03:57] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, ping
[03:58] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, ^^ can you change mythexport to depend on libmyth-perl or libmythtv-perl
[03:58] <mycosys> thing is mythexport is 2.0, main jaunty repo iirc
[03:59] <mycosys> spose wouldnt be hard to add 2.0.5 to ppa or something
[03:59] <tgm4883> yea it would likely have to hit the PPA
[03:59] <tgm4883> expecially since jaunty isn't supported anymore
[04:00] <mycosys> yeah - should have gone a lts release lol
[04:00] <mycosys> but it works well so why rebuild on 10.04
[04:01] <mycosys> was silly enough to go from 0.22trunk to 0.22fixes, that is what broke mythexport
[04:01] <mycosys> if it cant be fixed, spose i will just use another export system
[04:01] <mycosys> just having a web if is nice
[04:02] <tgm4883> mycosys, at the very least, you could rebuild the package yourself
[04:02] <tgm4883> iirc, dpkg -x package, dpkg -e package, fix depends, dpkg -b
[04:02] <mycosys> would have NO idea how
[04:02] <mycosys> you make it sound easy - premature arthritis disagrees atm
[04:03] <tgm4883> nah it really is pretty easy, since you are only changing package stuff
[04:03] <tgm4883> or you could just force the installation
[04:04] <mycosys> ldid force it - then apt-get wouldnt do anything
[04:05] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: the latest should depend on libmythtv-perl
[04:05] <mycosys> used dpkg --ignore-depends
[04:05] <mycosys> latest does - but it depends on stuff that will unistall myth0.22
[04:05] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, but does it also depend on libmyth-perl?
[04:06] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: no, libmythtv-perl replaced that
[04:06] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, what about for older users like mycosys?
[04:06] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, or can you not install mythexport on older mythtv builds?
[04:06] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: well if he is on an older system I wouldn't have updated that build I don't think
[04:06] <mycosys> you can, just not on 0.22 fixes
[04:06] <rhpot1991> I'll have to dig and see
[04:07] <rhpot1991> mycosys: so you are using jaunty repo, and mythtv-fixes autobuilds?
[04:07] <mycosys> 0.22fixes has libmythtv-perl, but has a codec pack that is extra rather than unstripped
[04:07] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, i'd probably still go the route of making the depends an OR statement, then people can install it at their own risk
[04:08] <mycosys> mythexport 2.1.x depends on the extra codec pack, myth0.22 depends on unstripped
[04:08] <tgm4883> iirc, you just need to change the depends from 'libmythtv-perl' to 'libmythtv-perl | libmyth-perl'
[04:08] <tgm4883> then it will try to install libmythtv-perl, if that fails, it will try libmyth-perl
[04:08] <mycosys> if you modify mythexport 2.1.x to use the unstripped codec pack that would prolly work too
[04:09] <tgm4883> that depends change shouldn't have any ill effects for new builds
[04:09] <mycosys> libavcodec it is
[04:09] <mycosys> if you use extra u get more encode options
[04:10] <mycosys> but unstripped should work
[04:10] <rhpot1991> mycosys: are you running mythexport from the testing-ppa or jaunty repos?
[04:11] <mycosys> think it is testing
[04:11] <mycosys> no
[04:11] <mycosys> jaunty i think
[04:11] <mycosys> testing is 2.1.x
[04:11] <mycosys> tried both
[04:12] <rhpot1991> 2.01 is in testing
[04:13] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, see line 17 of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes/view/head:/debian/control
[04:13] <Zinn> [bazaar.launchpad.net] ~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes : contents of debian/control at revision 417
[04:13] <tgm4883> that has OR depends in it
[04:14] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: ya I've seen that before
[04:14] <tgm4883> ah ok
[04:14] <rhpot1991> I need to find my jaunty code though, that hasn't been touched in ages
[04:14] <rhpot1991> is jaunty even still supported?
[04:14] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, nope
[04:14] <tgm4883> karmic is until april
[04:14] <rhpot1991> mycosys: why aren't you upgrading then?
[04:14] <tgm4883> jaunty support ended in oct
[04:14]  * tgm4883 goes to spend time with the wifey
[04:15] <mycosys> is 2.01`
[04:15] <mycosys> and not upgrading because myth should be treated as an appliance
[04:15] <mycosys> even the devs will tell you that
[04:15] <mycosys> i have no real reason to upgrade
[04:16] <mycosys> tho i will when i get time
[04:16] <mycosys> actually - will use a spare machine to build on 10l.04 lts ans move the database over
[04:16] <mycosys> but - prolly 4 months away, in uni break
[04:17] <rhpot1991> mycosys: its already using unstripped
[04:17] <rhpot1991>  libavcodec-unstripped-52, libavdevice-unstripped-52, libavformat-unstripped-52, libavutil-unstripped-49,
[04:17] <mycosys> yeah - but depends on libmyth-perl
[04:18] <rhpot1991> so you need that to be libmythtv-perl and that fixes everything then?
[04:18] <mycosys> 2.1.x depends libmythtv-perl but uses extra
[04:18] <rhpot1991> ya packages changed then
[04:18] <mycosys> changing 2.1.x to be or unstripped would probably be safer
[04:18] <rhpot1991> and I didn't release 2.1.x for jaunty
[04:18] <mycosys> would just lose some encode options, not risk some sort of change of perl bindings
[04:19] <rhpot1991> mycosys: I'm not comfortable pushing that since I didn't check any of the changes with jaunty
[04:19] <rhpot1991> you could take newer code and built it on a ppa for jaunty if you wanted to
[04:19] <rhpot1991> or I could add the libmythtv-perl fix to the current jaunty testing release
[04:19] <mycosys> that would be ok
[04:20] <rhpot1991> mycosys: gonna send you a pm
[04:20] <mycosys> np
[13:33] <__NeuTron> Hey everyone... I've been searching for hours on getting my Hauppauge 850 working with a fresh install of mythubuntu 10.10.  Almost every forum I come aross shows when doing 'lsusb' it prints out 'Hauppage WinTV-HVR-850' - mine only says "hauppauge', my dmesg also shows NOTHING about this device during boot up, where others shows something.  Am I missing something? has anyone else here gotten it to work with 10.10?
[14:07] <chraist> __NeuTron: Take a look at; http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1445
[14:07] <Zinn> [www.kernellabs.com] Hauppauge USBLive2 and new HVR-850 support – KernelLabs.com
[14:16] <__NeuTron> thanks, I'll check it out
[14:27] <__NeuTron> last night I downloaded http://kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/polaris4/archive/tip.tar.gz and tried to compile it... but it failed during the make, error 2 if I recall right
[14:32] <__NeuTron> aaah, I found if click on the files link I get something else... http://kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/polaris4/archive/8d1cbe46f97f.tar.gz instead.. does anyone know which tarball I'm suppose to be grabbing?


[07:24] <InnerCode> Hi, Is there an event listener which tiggers if a Ubuntu HTML5 SDK tab is opened?
[08:02] <dholbach> good morning
[19:23] <bartbes> is there any progress on having support for arbitrary control sequences in the terminal app?
[19:23] <bartbes> or any modifier, but control's the only one impossible to enter atm
[20:43] <bartbes> I suppose I might as well add some context: I just wrote a really shitty patch to do just that
[20:43] <bartbes> because it turns out, not being able to press control makes things really annoying :P