[04:51] <Licker> I am having trouble setting up my network can someone help please?
[04:51] <squid0> telonir: i'm all for FX, but why not opera?
[04:51] <telonir> no its not
[04:51] <DocTomoe> squid0: with fakeroot, you can get JDK packaged to a nice .deb ... and this is the way I need JDK
[04:51] <telonir> startup is slow
[04:51] <WinZ> tabs are slow
[04:51] <pl_ice> any one got really old PC ? ??
[04:52] <WinZ> 3-4 sec
[04:52] <telonir> actually never usedit
[04:52] <telonir> opera has tabs?
[04:52] <WinZ> yes
[04:52] <squid0> telonir: it is very cool. and yes
[04:52] <pl_ice> Licker , what u doing?
[04:52] <Whistler> will ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition? I need to create a new partition out of it
[04:52] <squid0> DocTomoe: i haven't used fakeroot before.
[04:52] <telonir> well maybe i will try opera. fx is eating up memory when you have many tabs :(
[04:53] <WinZ> so.. have anybody installed a flash plugin in opera?
[04:53] <pl_ice> hey, i got really old laptop and under console, all my long names files are cut, eg conf~1 , and i can't install none ...:(
[04:53] <ElkOS> any1 have experience with connecting to a f5 networks sslbox?
[04:53] <WinZ> telonir, http://tinypic.com/easaj9.png (i'm russian :) )
[04:53] <Whistler> will ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition? I need to create a new partition out of it
[04:53] <telonir> and wont release most of it after you close the tabs
[04:53] <squid0> telonir: i am a dedicated fan of FF, but i find opera to be much faster and quite slick
[04:53] <telonir> flash/ mplayer-plugin work in opera?
[04:54] <Licker> I am putting ubuntu on a second pc. Now, my problem is that it tries to Auto-Config my network then returns an error saying my network might not be using DHCP.  It sees my 2 network cards just cant configure them.  Are they bad? Am i doing something wrong?
[04:54] <WinZ> flash is working, but i don't know how to setup it :)
[04:55] <telonir> so it doesnt work?(but should)?
[04:55] <Whistler> Licker dont be scared
[04:55] <pl_ice> Licker, i always configured my via /etc/network/interfaces not gui etc. and there cards, u sure linux can recognise them ? ... it's not wless is it?
[04:55] <WinZ> telonir, yes
[04:55] <Whistler> you can configure them later
[04:56] <WinZ> telonir, it shows that the flash plugin is installed, but doesn't plays movies
[04:56] <Licker> No its not wireless. Im not sure if Linux can rec. them . I just know it tells me what is in slot 1 and 2.
[04:56] <Licker> I dont know how to configure it through anything else...  :/
[04:56] <tosh54> where can i find a beta/devel version of ubuntuguide for breezy?
[04:56] <pl_ice> Licker , u using DHCP?
[04:57] <telonir> bye
[04:57] <Whistler> tosh54 ?
[04:57] <pl_ice> bye
[04:57] <Licker> pl_ice: I dont even know WTF that is. lol.
[04:57] <tritium_> tosh54: the documentation team is working on official docs for breezy, rather than ubuntuguide
[04:57] <tosh54> tritium, ah ok.
[04:58] <pl_ice> Licker , hm.... are u trying to connect with these cards(or one of them to the internet or lan etc?
[04:58] <Licker> pl_ice: yes
[04:58] <Licker> pl_ice: should I just finish the install then go back and configure them?
[04:58] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[04:58] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:58] <telonir_> faq all
[04:58] <tosh54> !faq
[04:58] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:59] <telonir_> sounds bad
[04:59] <pl_ice> Licker  hey, i didn't tell me u're just installing it :) that's at the begining of installation??
[04:59] <Licker> pl_ice: lol. i tried to say taht up top. Yea im just installing it to my second PC.
[05:00] <ElkOS> is activeX supported with any browser in linux?
[05:00] <Brondoman> Morning (at  least in the US).  Question/problem:  With the 5.10 releases I'm having a bugger of a time installing on my two systems.  One is a home built with an Airlink (atheros) wireless card, the other a Dell 9300 laptop.  On my homebuilt it cannot find the nic.  On the dell it bombs with an error when it goes to install the base system stating it cannot find the CD drive any longer (it's a DV
[05:00] <Brondoman> D for what it;s worth).  On the hedghog release, it would install like a champ on both.  Any ideas?
[05:00] <pl_ice> Licker , u have to find out where u trying to connect to the internet, eg. what IP can your pc have, gateway netmask, and DNS server, then when it says can't use DHCP, configure it manually then add this info, if something u can easily configure it later on
[05:01] <pl_ice> Licker but best at the install so it can fetch other packages, eg. other language settings etc
[05:02] <mhz> hi
[05:02] <Gimp|> hey
[05:02] <Gimp|> how do i get rar and unrar installed?
[05:02] <snowbird> hi
[05:02] <pl_ice> Gimp| apt-get get install rar
[05:03] <sorush20> guys why is my printer so slow, can some one help its using the cups... can I change it to something else so that it becomes faster..
[05:03] <Brondoman> Any ideas on the install issue?  Did 5.10 remove the atheros drivers?
[05:03] <mhz> Gimp|, apt-get install unrar
[05:04] <er4z0r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[05:04] <er4z0r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[05:04] <Gimp|> kyle@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar
[05:04] <Gimp|> Reading package lists... Done
[05:04] <Gimp|> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:04] <Gimp|> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:04] <Gimp|> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:04] <Mateo_> Hey :)
[05:04] <Gimp|> is only available from another source
[05:04] <Gimp|> enyc: Package rar has no installation candidate
[05:04] <Echelon-H> is updating to breezy is done automatically? is it safe by now?
[05:04] <pl_ice> Gimp| , enable backports
[05:04] <Gimp|> what is that?
[05:04] <nalioth> Gimp|: do not paste in here. use #flood or a pastebin
[05:05] <Gimp|> ok sorry
[05:05] <pl_ice> Gimp| go to www.ubuntuforums.com and search backports it's another 'places' where u can get programs.. more/less
[05:05] <Mateo_> no way to access to the net with the wifi ...
[05:06] <Licker> pl_ice: where can i find an ip..gateway, dns server info etc
[05:06] <mahangu> ubotu tell Gimp| about backports
[05:06] <pl_ice> Licker how u want to connect to the internet on that 2nd PC?
[05:06] <Brondoman> Did they remove the atheros drivers from the 5.10 release?
[05:06] <Ghoat> my system has been crashing regularly, is there a log file I can check that may give me insight into the cause?
[05:06] <Mateo_> licker>  /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[05:07] <pl_ice> Mateo_ he's trying to install fresh system, has no idea which gateway to use etc...
[05:07] <realite> hii
[05:07] <realite> to everyone
[05:07] <gigaclon> hiii
[05:07] <Licker> mateo_: im just doing the install to da second pc'
[05:07] <net_benjo> hi guys, my apt-get update can't connect to any of the repos.  Is this related to the 5.10 RC?
[05:07] <Echelon-H> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes - this is not working.
[05:07] <Licker> pl_ice: im connecting through a hub
[05:07] <Mateo_> oh .. ok  ...  and youdon't want to do that after your install ?
[05:08] <realite> are there enyone who know mono?
[05:08] <Licker> would that be easier?
[05:08] <DocTomoe> realite: how about joining
[05:08] <DocTomoe> #mono
[05:08] <pl_ice> Licker hub ... hm where the hub is connected? is this PC u typing now on the same hub?
[05:08] <Mateo_> licker > there a graphical  interface    ( pl_ice  isn't it ?? )
[05:08] <realite> yeah
[05:08] <realite> oke
[05:09] <realite> how can i update my mono
[05:09] <jwd> does anyone use their network with comcast and DHCP
[05:09] <realite> ?
[05:09] <Licker> pl_ice: yes this pc is on da hub so is my xp box
[05:09] <pl_ice> Mateo_ yeh, but he doesn't know what ip/gateway ted to use on the fress install of 2nd pc
[05:09] <Gwildor> jwd, i do......
[05:09] <djbrieck> ubuntu should be able to read a ISO 9660 CD rom in i burn one, right
[05:09] <jwd> can I private message you
[05:09] <Gwildor> jwd,  sure
[05:10] <Echelon-H> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes how come this is not working?
[05:10] <darknature> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:10] <darknature> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:10] <darknature>
[05:10] <darknature> can anyone help me with this error
[05:10] <pl_ice> Licker ifconfig , then use almost same info for the 2nd pc, except for the IP, change the last diding, of ur 1st pc, higher etc. and make sure cable is connected to the hub etc
[05:10] <realite> thnx
[05:12] <pl_ice> any one got really old PC? ????
[05:12] <Licker> pl_ice: i type ifconfig into the term win?
[05:12] <Gwildor> pl_ice, how old?
[05:12] <mahangu> Licker, yes
[05:12] <pl_ice> Licker into linux console : ifconfig , u using xp at the moment?
[05:13] <pl_ice> Gwildor i got 300mhz laptop, but under console i can see files truncated: eg. conf~1 can't install shit etc ...
[05:13] <pl_ice> not sure what to do with it
[05:13] <Gwildor> pl_ice, ubuntu?
[05:13] <udreka> hello, one q: if i install the rc now is it enough to apt-get update later to get the same as a final release install?
[05:13] <Licker> no im on my first PC wich has centos...my other pc has ubuntu on it and the other has WIN. then my new one im installing ubuntu on it right now
[05:13] <pl_ice> yes, ubuntu server with iceWM
[05:14] <Licker> :)
[05:14] <Gwildor> pl_ice, what you wanna use it for?
[05:14] <pl_ice> Gwildor i prefer console only, but i can't compile any progs. couse all files are truncated... nothing will work i'm puzzled
[05:15] <Mateo_> who can i solve it please, on e iwconfig i see the wlan with configuration, but when i do an ifup wlan0 i get an failed to bring up wlan0 ...
[05:15] <pl_ice> Licker , for linux: ifconfig, look for eth0 then copy from it :gateway, netmask, IP(change last digit, so it won't collide with other) then put that info to ur unew ubuntu, in windows ipconfig /all
[05:16] <Licker> pl_ice: ifconfig wont work.
[05:16] <Mateo_> Licker, execute: cmd
[05:16] <Mateo_> and then ipconfig
[05:16] <Licker> well i know how to do it on my WIN box. just not linux
[05:17] <Mateo_> ifconfig don't work ?
[05:17] <Licker> no
[05:17] <jwd> is it in your path?
[05:18] <pl_ice> Licker then go to ur lovely xp and type that into console ;) ipconfig /all
[05:18] <Mateo_> you want to know ?? a ifconfig don't see my wlan0 but a iwconfig yes ...
[05:19] <Licker> :/
[05:20] <Licker> my WIN box wont work either.. !@!@!@!@ the command box apears.. displays an error and vanishes
[05:20] <Mateo_> Licker, you type it directly in the execut window or you use a msdos windws ?
[05:21] <Licker> run > cmd >
[05:21] <udreka> hello, one q: if i install the rc now is it enough to apt-get update later to get the same as a final release install?
[05:21] <war-totem> could someone tell me how to add a script to gnome? i dont seem to have a nautilus script directory anywhere
[05:21] <thrice`> of course
[05:22] <Licker> i just clicked network connection details
[05:22] <jwd> if I am using DHCP with comcast
[05:22] <nalioth> udreka: ubuntu uses apt-get which will keep your system up to date
[05:22] <jwd> what should be my hostname entry
[05:22] <adoyretsamon> Licker, you seem to have been infected with a nasty bugger that uses the GPO to stop you running cmd window?
[05:22] <jwd> ipconfig /all
[05:22] <Licker> yea
[05:22] <jwd> shows hsd1.ma.comcast.net
[05:22] <kemik> pl_ice:  really old pc... what about ?
[05:23] <pl_ice> kemik i can see files like that under console : conf~1 all truncated, can't compile nothing etc ... p2 300mhz
[05:23] <kemik> pl_ice:  oops.. seems you've dabbled with some old filesystem or sth
[05:24] <pl_ice> kemik can u explain? i put base ubuntu on it, then iceWM
[05:24] <h08817> anyone in here know where i can get alot of information on web design?
[05:24] <h08817> I need to write a 5 page paper on it
[05:24] <jwd> google.com
[05:24] <adoyretsamon> kemik, some viruses on windows and some recovery tools will shorten names to 8char
[05:24] <adoyretsamon> like that
[05:24] <jwd> or goto the library and grab a book
[05:24] <adoyretsamon> i'll bet dates are fubar'd too
[05:24] <nalioth> h08817: www.w3w.org
[05:24] <h08817> jwd: of course but i was wondering if you knew specific sites
[05:25] <Licker> pl_ice: how do i know what IP addy to use?
[05:25] <jwd> the above is perfect
[05:25] <h08817> nalioth: well they pretty much just teach you but don't have a lot of info do they
[05:25] <jblack> Does the livecd come with sata support?
[05:25] <war-totem> anyone familiar with installing and executing scripts?
[05:25] <nalioth> h08817: w3w is world wide web consortium. (who charts web standards)
[05:25] <jwd> what is the subject of your paper
[05:25] <h08817> nalioth: o sry i confused it with www.w3schools.com
[05:25] <jwd> exactly
[05:25] <h08817> nalioth: thanks
[05:26] <h08817> nalioth: well i chose web design
[05:26] <pl_ice> Licker check all ip of other pc, they have to have unique one, then just add 1 to the end value and use that
[05:26] <h08817> nalioth: i made a website and i just need to write my paper now
[05:26] <Mateo_> someone use a trendnet pc card for wifi ?
[05:26] <Re> help for configurin ftp server.
[05:27] <h08817> jwd: so what do u think it should consist of? All the different types of coding like html, javascript, dhtml etc..?
[05:28] <jwd> yeah
[05:29] <jwd> I would explain why people/companies need websites first
[05:29] <netmonk> before i upgraded to breezy my computer restarted, now when i go "reboot" I need to turn it off from the button and then turn it on again. Can anyone help me fix that?
[05:29] <jwd> than explain the advantages of having one
[05:29] <jwd> than start with HTML
[05:29] <h08817> nalioth: they changed their site to http://www.w3.org/
[05:29] <jwd> hyper text markup language
[05:29] <h08817> jwd: thanks
[05:29] <jwd> than go from there as to how things get more advanced
[05:30] <nalioth> h08817: ty
[05:30] <h08817> o ok
[05:30] <jwd> also explain scripts usage
[05:30] <jwd> CGI
[05:30] <h08817> nalioth:sure
[05:30] <jwd> HTML was the first
[05:30] <jwd> it just got more complex to do more stuff as time went on
[05:30] <h08817> hmm yeah i don't know that much about cgi i guess i gotta learn that
[05:30] <jwd> I had a web page in like 1996
[05:30] <jwd> very very basic
[05:31] <jwd> no one was even using the wbe
[05:31] <h08817> well in 1996 i had not much of a concept of a computer
[05:31] <Mateo_> someone for helping me configuring my wireless connection please ?? ( i have some trouble with ifconfig and iwconfig ... )
[05:31] <jwd> if I was smarter I should of bought every domain name
[05:31] <jwd> from every large company
[05:31] <jwd> that didn't have a website
[05:31] <jwd> :-)
[05:31] <h08817> jwd: lol
[05:32] <renebs> I need help, can anyone assist me? I have installed proftpd (following www.ubuntuguide.org) and Still can't have access to the server. I get connection refused even if I try to connect localy
[05:32] <pl_ice> renebs ur firewall :/
[05:33] <jwd> let me find a site for you H088
[05:33] <h08817> o ok
[05:34] <Tomcat_> !w32codecs
[05:34] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[05:36] <Mateo_> i really need help .. sorry but i'm a newbie and i'm looking for that for 4days ...
[05:36] <h08817> Mateo_: what is ur problem
[05:36] <h08817> something with wireless right?
[05:36] <Mateo_> yes
[05:37] <h08817> well what hardware do u have?
[05:37] <h08817> !wireless
[05:37] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:37] <Mateo_> h08817, ubuntu hoary, a trendnet pc card ( recognized by native )
[05:37] <h08817> Mateo_: check out the link and see if that helps u at al
[05:37] <ompaul> where is the "notification area" in Gnome?
[05:37] <h08817> unless u already did check it
[05:38] <lexton> hello all
[05:38] <lexton> I'm trying to get WEP to work with my dwl-122
[05:38] <Mateo_> h08817, i look that .. but ithink i already did it... just a minute
[05:38] <lexton> I know it will work with the wifi router wide open
[05:38] <h08817> ok
[05:38] <ompaul> never mind
[05:38] <Ofe> !dial-up
[05:38] <ubotu> Ofe: Not a clue
[05:39] <Mateo_> h08817,  my card don't appears
[05:39] <h08817> hmm
[05:39] <h08817> do u have the drivers for it?
[05:39] <h08817> linux probably doesn't recognize it
[05:39] <Mateo_> h08817, on my ifconfig she appears
[05:40] <h08817> hmm
[05:40] <h08817> see when i installed my wireless i didn't have a card
[05:40] <h08817> i had a Netgear USB
[05:40] <Vcc> hola
[05:40] <Vcc> hello
[05:40] <Vcc> :P
[05:41] <h08817> well i am not sure about a pc card
[05:41] <Licker> Ok. I did all that. Now it went through the network part does that mean i did it all correctly?
[05:41] <Mateo_> h08817,  she deseapear from the ifconfig but still on the iwconfig
[05:42] <h08817> i don't know the difference between ifconfig and iwconfig so i don't think i can help you
[05:42] <h08817> what is under your network connections?
[05:42] <pl_ice> Licker u will see, but if it didn't show errors then yeh
[05:42] <Mateo_> h08817, a ifup wlan0 send me:  failed to bring up wlan0
[05:43] <h08817> so wlan0 you can't highlight and configure?
[05:43] <Mateo_> h08817, sorry lol .. i'm french   what is under my network connections ?? you mean pc ?
[05:43] <h08817> no i mean under network under administration
[05:43] <Licker> pl_ice: kk. ill wait till its done i guess. Oh if you already have it installed where do u go to change the info to make it see the internet?
[05:44] <h08817> System -->administration--> networking
[05:44] <pl_ice> Licker there it a GUI for it, or chage the file /etc/network/interfaces
[05:44] <Mateo_> h08817,  wlan0 appears there with eth0 ( my ethernet conection )
[05:45] <h08817> can u configure your wlan0
[05:45] <h08817> try to configure it and then activate it
[05:45] <Licker> pl_ice: what is the GUI called?
[05:45] <chorton> I just upgrade to breezy rc, and GNOME is seeming a tad faster overall.  Is that a normal thing for people or is it just me enjoying the upgrade too much?
[05:45] <h08817> unless u have an ethernet connection
[05:45] <Mateo_> h08817,  i can configure it but can't active it
[05:46] <h08817> why what happens?
[05:46] <theplateau>  how can i add mp3 support to amarok? its saying use an alternate engine, its using gstreamer
[05:46] <pl_ice> Licker system-->administration-->network config. can't miss it
[05:46] <lexton> nalioth you around?
[05:46] <Mateo_> msg who say me that i can't
[05:46] <eth42> has anyone also experienced that Xine and Totem/xine can't calculate the correct time codes for a video in some cases?
[05:46] <theplateau> u mean video and audio is out of sync?
[05:47] <theplateau> i experienced that
[05:47] <stefan_> kennst sich hier jemand aus
[05:47] <Mateo_> h08817,  "verify that your configurations are ok and that your pc is connected to the network"
[05:47] <fusioncow> hi all
[05:47] <pl_ice> my Totem crashes often :/
[05:48] <Kartoffel> what do I need to do if my firewall don't let me choose dsl0, it only let me choose eth0 but its need to be dsl0 and the connection is working! Please help me!
[05:48] <h08817> hmm
[05:48] <h08817> did u load it using modprobe?
[05:48] <brenner> pl_ice: often or all the time?
[05:49] <h08817> !wireless cards
[05:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, h08817
[05:49] <h08817> !cards
[05:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, h08817
[05:49] <eth42> theplateau: did you refer to me? I also experienced video and audio out of sync. But what I meant is that the mpg2-videos that I mplexed myself don't show the correct timecodes. Like it says that the video is 26 mins long while it is some about 90 minutes...
[05:49] <Mateo_> h08817, modprobe ??
[05:49] <Kartoffel> Why can't I choose it?
[05:49] <nalioth> h08817: read this url, please. !fishing !isnt !appreciated
[05:49] <nalioth> !ubotu
[05:49] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:49] <pl_ice> brenner often, eg. on changing files which i want to watch
[05:49] <h08817> fishing?
[05:50] <gstar> hi, i have breezy running on a vaio with nvidia driver fine in 386 kernel, but when i change to 686 kernel the nvidia module fails to load and thus I can't get into X.. any ideas greatfully received! :D
[05:50] <brenner> pl_ice: have you switched to tomtem-xine yet?
[05:50] <nalioth> h08817: !putting !exclamation 1=
[05:50] <stefan_> kann jemand helfen absuluter newbee
[05:50] <nalioth> h08817: points in front of words
[05:50] <nalioth> !de
[05:50] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[05:50] <nalioth> !fr
[05:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:50] <h08817> well whatever
[05:50] <pl_ice> brenner i used that one after ubuntu install, haven't changed it, i don't htink it's t-xine
[05:50] <gstar> i have installed the nvidia-glx package, uninstalled and reinstalled it..
[05:51] <Kartoffel> @stefan_ Try to ask at #linuxpaten... versuchs mal in #Linuxpaten!
[05:51] <nalioth> h08817: the bot is not allknowing, read the  URL about ubotu to see all the triggers
[05:51] <stefan_> wie komm ich da hin
[05:51] <brenner> pl_ice: no, default is totem with gstreamer backend...try switching to totem-xine...you can always go back if you wish anyway
[05:51] <stefan_> #linuxpaten
[05:51] <Kartoffel> enter <slash > join #linuxpaten slash = /
[05:51] <stefan_> #linuxpaten/
[05:51] <Kartoffel> linuxpaten ist deutsch, is german
[05:52] <gstar> anyone?
[05:52] <gstar> or should I hit the forums?
[05:52] <nalioth> stefan_: shreiben /j #linuxpaten
[05:52] <pl_ice> brenner ok will do, and any idea about xmms ? does similar thing :/ but on longer interval
[05:52] <stefan_> danke
[05:52] <chorton> Could anyone tell me how to switch the boot screen away from the kubuntu pic?
[05:52] <Kartoffel> Why can't I choose my dsl0 in my firewall?? it's working fine but is not there
[05:52] <Mateo_> h08817,  i can use modprobe to config my network connection?
[05:52] <eth42> gstar, what's the problem?
[05:52] <gstar> hi, i have breezy running on a vaio with nvidia driver fine in 386 kernel, but when i change to 686 kernel the nvidia module fails to load and thus I can't get into X.. any ideas greatfully received! :D
[05:53] <pl_ice> gstar u need to install nvidia again, that what i think... after u change kernel...
[05:53] <gstar> pl_ice: i did
[05:53] <brenner> pl_ice: if it's not constant weirdness, then no, not really.....try searching the forum
[05:53] <h08817> never mind
[05:53] <gstar> pl_ice: i dpkg --purged it and reinstalled
[05:53] <h08817> ask someone else what to do
[05:53] <eth42> gstar: take the free nv driver instead of nvidia??
[05:53] <northern_monk> gstar: have u tried a reinstall?
[05:54] <Mateo_> someone know i can i solve wifi network problem ?? lol
[05:54] <gstar> northern_monk: of what?
[05:54] <h08817> recheck that wireless think by ubotu just because your card isn't listed doesn't mean it isn't going to tell you how to setup your wireless
[05:54] <northern_monk> the nvidia drivers
[05:54] <gstar> eth42: but then I'd have no hardware 3d acceleration
[05:54] <gstar> northern_monk: yes, done that
[05:54] <brenner> chorton: ask at #kubuntu
[05:54] <northern_monk> whats your card?
[05:54] <gstar> northern_monk: geforce 6300
[05:54] <eth42> gstar: erm, but what do you need 3d acceration for on Linux, especially on a laptop?
[05:54] <pl_ice> gstar hit forum :/
[05:55] <gstar> eth42: that's not a relavent question really is it?
[05:55] <chorton> brenner: Thanks, lemme check there.
[05:55] <northern_monk> are u running with the 686 kernel when you reinstall it?
[05:55] <gstar> eth42: fact is it worked in 386 kernel
[05:55] <brenner> eth42: lots of stuff...opengl programming comes to mind
[05:55] <gstar> eth42: if you must know, I play enemy territory on it, it's quite a powerful laptop :D
[05:55] <brenner> and screensavers. :)
[05:55] <zeroverse_> hello, is there a way i can write to my ntfs drive instead of just reading fromit?
[05:55] <eth42> brenner: a yes, the flying cow, right ? :-D
[05:55] <northern_monk> gstar: are u running with the 686 kernel when you reinstall it?
[05:56] <gstar> toasters!
[05:56] <gstar> northern_monk: yes
[05:56] <eth42> right! :-)
[05:56] <fredforfaen> gstar had the same problem , never got around to fixing it , when i reinstalled the driver it installed on the current kernel not the new one
[05:56] <gstar> fredforfaen: thanks for that.
[05:56] <brenner> eth42: heh...never seen that one, but some of the GL ones i've seen are quite purdy
[05:56] <gstar> thanks... will try re-installing kernel and driver together
[05:57] <eth42> brenner: do i need opengl for vi?
[05:57] <eth42> gstar: I'm not sure that reinstalling helps
[05:57] <eth42> gstar: are you sure that the old kernel module is removed from the system?
[05:57] <ompaul> zeroverse_, it is not recomended that you try to do that, if you do install something that talks to ntfs, it  may blow up the partition, it is down to MS closing and keeping closed how that filesystem
[05:57] <eth42> gstar: check with: updatedb & locate nvidia
[05:58] <eth42> s/&/&&/
[05:58] <brenner> eth42: apt-cache show vim and then check the dependencies, :P
[05:58] <eth42> brenner: see! no 3d acceleration needed for linux
[05:58] <ompaul> zeroverse_, works
[05:58] <eth42> hehe
[05:59] <brenner> eth42: i never said you need it
[05:59] <eth42> brenner: hmmm.
[06:00] <nalioth> that brenner is always causing trouble
[06:00] <kbrooks> ?
[06:00] <kbrooks> nalioth: what has he done?
[06:00] <nalioth> brenner is being brenner
[06:00] <eth42> kbrooks: he did never commit to the statement that 3d acceleration is necessary for linux
[06:01] <kbrooks> define brenner in that context, nalioth
[06:01] <kbrooks> eth42: it isn
[06:01] <kbrooks> isn't.
[06:01] <nalioth> kbrooks: i'm just pullin brenners leg
[06:01] <kbrooks> hardware 3d accel that is
[06:01] <nalioth> kbrooks: and he aint here to react
[06:01] <brenner> kbrooks: nevermind him...._he's_ the real troublemaker
[06:02] <eth42> kbrooks: exactly
[06:02] <kbrooks> nalioth: Life is hard.
[06:02] <eth42> I agree
[06:02] <kbrooks> brenner: i trust nalioth.
[06:02] <CutepoAko> HIIIIIIIIIII
[06:03] <Tomcat_> Do I still need totem-xine to use the w32codecs in breezy? I thought gstreamer was supposed to be able to use those nowadays...
[06:03] <CutepoAko> Anyone ctc?
[06:03] <nalioth> Tomcat_: totem has nothing to do with w32codecs
[06:04] <eth42> Is gstreamer still that terribly slow?
[06:04] <Tomcat_> nalioth: Well not totem, but the gstreamer backend... I read it should be able to use the w32codecs. :o
[06:04] <eth42> nalioth: huh?
[06:05] <nalioth> the w32codecs are used by any program that uses mplayer plugins
[06:09] <pl_ice> catch ya guys
[06:09] <Ekenkrona> Hi guys
[06:09] <Ekenkrona> I'd like to acces my NTFS partition on my other harddrive, is there some way to do that? I have all my music and movies stored there.
[06:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ekenkrona about ntfs
[06:10] <lexton> hi nalioth
[06:10] <nalioth> lexton: howdy
[06:10] <Ekenkrona> Thanks Nalioth. :)
[06:11] <lexton> you said you knew someone who got the dwl-122 and kismet running on ppc?
[06:11] <nalioth> lexton: i have said that somewhere, yes
[06:13] <rodrigo> oi
[06:14] <djm62> how's breezy looking? (IE, I have a spare evening, should I edit'n'go?)
[06:14] <TiMiDo> djm62: so far so good
[06:14] <nalioth> djm62: official release is 6 days away
[06:14] <djm62> yeah
[06:14] <Ekenkrona> Is there a alternative to Winamp for Linux?
[06:14] <TiMiDo> Ekenkrona: xmms
[06:14] <djm62> is it frantic final days, or is it just the stragglers?
[06:14] <djm62> Ekenkrona: or beep media player (more modern)
[06:15] <theine> Hi, is there a simple way to view the differences between my configuration files in /etc and the `original' configuration files contained in the individual packages?
[06:15] <nalioth> Ekenkrona: ubotu loves you
[06:15] <TiMiDo> theine: try nano
[06:15] <nalioth> theine: open a terminal and type "man diff"
[06:15] <theine> nalioth, diff to what?
[06:15] <nalioth> theine: 'diff' compares files
[06:15] <rendell> bobo kayo
[06:15] <brenner> do we assume any remaining bugs will be ironed out by the release date?
[06:16] <TiMiDo> rendell: english please
[06:16] <nalioth> brenner: that is the plan
[06:16] <theine> nalioth, diff /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ...?
[06:16] <djm62> brenner: any bugs which have been found, and can be fixed
[06:16] <nalioth> theine: either diff --help or "man diff"
[06:16] <theine> nalioth, what shall I fill in for ...?
[06:16] <theine> nalioth, I know how to use diff, that's not the problem
[06:17] <nalioth> theine: then put your two files in as targets
[06:17] <djm62> theine: how much editing have you done? emacs leaves /etc/config~ , which is the last version
[06:17] <theine> nalioth, I know! The problem is that I don't have 2 files, i.e. I don't know where to find the original configuration file that cam with the package
[06:18] <TiMiDo> theine: try google and look for the configurations
[06:18] <tucoz> When updating to breezy, should I do a dist-upgrade using apt-get, or should I use synaptics smart update?
[06:18] <tucoz> (using hoary right now)
[06:18] <theine> djm62, I use vim with ":set nobackup"...
[06:18] <nalioth> theine: ah. look in /var/cache/apt/archive for the deb of the package and open it
[06:20] <aeho> weird, it seems that I have to do "killall esd" to get sound working in enemyterritory, I am even running breezy.
[06:20] <theine> nalioth, I guess I have to do that, I just thought there might be a more convenient way, i.e. apt stores the most recent version of the `upstream' configuration files somewhere...
[06:20] <Ekenkrona> Something tells me I don't have a mp3-decoder installed. :( And I'm not used to Linux either, is there some easy way to have it install for me?
[06:20] <TiMiDo> !tell Ekenkrona about mp3
[06:20] <aeho> Ekenkrona, are you trying to listen mp3:s on rhythmbox?
[06:21] <Ekenkrona> aeho, yes
[06:21] <aeho> install "gstreamer0.8-mad"
[06:21] <aeho> packagew
[06:22] <aeho> it is in universe repository
[06:23] <telonir> i installed the nvidia packages. i do get a splash screen. but when i run glxgears they spin really slow
[06:23] <coolkev> 3 more days
[06:23] <brenner> telonir: glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:23] <telonir> 2) pppoeconf said it has set the adsl to connect at boot. it doesnt
[06:24] <telonir> direct rendering: Yes
[06:24] <Secreth`X> nalioth, what was the url for that qtparted thing?
[06:25] <brenner> telonir: k, so it's enabled...glxgears isn't really a good benchmarking tool....the gears might actually be spinning too fast for you to see!
[06:25] <telonir> exactly in sync so i see them spin perfectly?!
[06:25] <telonir> and where is mplayer?
[06:26] <brenner> telonir: well...what card and what FPS are you getting?
[06:27] <telonir> didnt get an fps message... strange
[06:27] <telonir> nvidia geforce 2 mx 4000 usually 800-900 fps
[06:27] <brenner> telonir: you running it in a terminal?
[06:27] <telonir> yep
[06:27] <Secreth`X> nalioth, what was the url for that qtparted thing?
[06:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Secreth`X about sources
[06:27] <Secreth`X> ty
[06:28] <apus> anyone with experience with 3d gaming in ubuntu?
[06:28] <djm62> apus: some demos
[06:28] <djm62> apus: and the ubiquitous tuxracer
[06:28] <brenner> telonir: mplayer's in multiverse iirc
[06:29] <telonir> if it goes on like this i will switch to debian...
[06:29] <theine> Has anybody installed the Java Media Framework (JMF) for use under Openoffice?
[06:29] <telonir> i found it
[06:29] <apus> demos of what?
[06:29] <telonir> ut2k4
[06:29] <telonir> americas army
[06:29] <apus> any other known titles ?
[06:29] <djm62> apus: wolfenstein, quake3, postal 2, my gfx card is not a happy bunny with the unreal series
[06:29] <telonir> thats what i want the glx for
[06:30] <djm62> america's army, although that creeps me out
[06:30] <telonir> apus, cedega will run almost anything
[06:30] <apus> what about counterstrike
[06:30] <apus> ?
[06:30] <apus> cedega?
[06:30] <telonir> (tried ut goty and warcraft 3)
[06:30] <telonir> yes cedega
[06:30] <apus> whats that?
[06:30] <telonir> no fps message....
[06:31] <dell500> what is breezey suppose to offer?
[06:31] <dell500> or i can look it up on the site accually
[06:31] <telonir> apus, wine, the next generation
[06:31] <SuseUX> ubuntu 5.10 keeps giving me so many goodies :-)
[06:31] <telonir> is there a firewall enabled by default in ubuntu?
[06:32] <apus> dont think so
[06:32] <nalioth> telonir: no not by default
[06:32] <telonir> so far its making me a headache :(
[06:32] <telonir> its just that the ping is high
[06:32] <telonir> in fedora i got 1sec ping with the firewall enabled
[06:32] <telonir> 200-300ms without it...
[06:32] <SuseUX> telonir,  sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:33] <apus> is it possible to play cs:source in linux (ubuntu)?
[06:33] <SuseUX> if you want one
[06:33] <telonir> a game?
[06:33] <telonir> to test the opengl?
[06:33] <SuseUX> apus, with cedega yes
[06:33] <Buckeroo> can somebody answer a ubuntu-linux question for me.......
[06:33] <nalioth> telonir: actually if you want a 'firewall', read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[06:33] <apus> what is exactly this cedega?
[06:33] <telonir> ipchains
[06:33] <telonir> apus, wine, the next generation
[06:33] <SuseUX> allows you to play windows games
[06:34] <Buckeroo> .......anyone
[06:34] <TiMiDo> Buckeroo: yeah wuz up/
[06:34] <apus> mhm, interesting :)
[06:34] <telonir> not just games
[06:34] <apus> I'n new to linux ;)
[06:34] <apus> *I'm
[06:34] <TiMiDo> apus: figures
[06:34] <telonir> a windows shell for the apps
[06:34] <TiMiDo> telonir: huh?9$
[06:34] <SuseUX> cedega is pure games
[06:34] <damg> hi, what do i have to add to sources.list to make my kubuntu to be able to install gtk+ apps/ ubuntu stuff?
[06:34] <Xenguy> apus: cedega is a proprietary WINE
[06:34] <SuseUX> but it's not free
[06:35] <SuseUX> it's a choice
[06:35] <Buckeroo> aight, I just installed Ubuntu. Sound server works on startup (the cheesy sound when gnome starts). but all apps like XMMS as soon as I designate an MP3 file to open, XMMS tends to crash. What's going on?
[06:35] <apus> and WINE is?
[06:35] <brenner> damg: /join #kubuntu
[06:35] <TiMiDo> same stuff
[06:35] <apus> red? whitw?
[06:35] <damg> brenner: ok
[06:35] <Xenguy> apus: apt-cache show wine
[06:35] <SuseUX> TiMiDo, how does one install .deb cedega?
[06:35] <Xenguy> apus: before you try cedega, have a look at this site: http://frankscorner.org/
[06:36] <brenner> Buckeroo: change the output plugin to esound or alsa
[06:36] <Buckeroo> I tried, but let me do it again, just to make sure
[06:36] <brenner> Buckeroo: in xmms.....rythmbox will require an mp3 codec
[06:36] <telonir> is oss dead?
[06:36] <Buckeroo> xmms dies, and rythmbox too..... all of them do
[06:36] <Xenguy> apus: and see also the main WINE site for more tips on apps that work with WINE
[06:36] <SuseUX> Xenguy, WINE is useless at games like HL2
[06:37] <SuseUX> and you know it
[06:37] <telonir> wine is useless.
[06:37] <kevogod> WINE works good for Warcraft III.
[06:37] <Xenguy> SuseUX: WINE as opposed to what?
[06:37] <SuseUX> no it's not
[06:37] <SuseUX> but WIne dont play HL2
[06:37] <seth_k|lappy> Wine works great for my statistics / engineering software, that's all I care about
[06:37] <SuseUX> it lacks PS
[06:37] <kevogod> Wine makes me tipsy.
[06:37] <apus> is cedega and wine two similar modules
[06:37] <apus> ?
[06:37] <seth_k|lappy> cedega is a commerical fork of wine
[06:38] <djm62> apus: cedega is a highly-developed fork of wine
[06:38] <djm62> apus: with the emphasis on directX and 3d support
[06:38] <SuseUX> apus, cedega is for playing games only Wine can do both but it not very good at games
[06:38] <Xenguy> apus: cedega is a highly-developed non-free fork of wine :-)
[06:38] <djm62> Xenguy: WORD
[06:38] <apus> ok so cedega is the answer then
[06:38] <apus> :D
[06:38] <SuseUX> for games yes
[06:39] <SuseUX> like HL2
[06:39] <apus> games is the important thing yes
[06:39] <Xenguy> apus: of course not :P
[06:39] <grgcsmc> where can i get an mp3 plugin for totem?
[06:39] <SuseUX> since is you get Pixel shader and vertix shader support
[06:39] <djm62> although if you're a gamer that likes linux, the ultimate solution is to make yourself heard, and vote the only way that counts: with your wallet
[06:39] <apus> of course not what?
[06:40] <Answer> djm62: or learn how to write code heh
[06:40] <SuseUX> apokryphos, look for native installers first
[06:40] <SuseUX> apus, look for native installers first
[06:40] <grgcsmc> where can i find an mp3 plugin for totem?
[06:40] <Answer> !restrictedformats
[06:40] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:41] <apus> I ment for using windows applications, games is the important issue
[06:41] <apus> native innstallers, were to look?
[06:41] <SuseUX> looks for the Linux version first
[06:41] <SuseUX> apus, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/viewcat.php?cid=25
[06:42] <SuseUX> apus, what windows apps do you need?
[06:42] <ubuntuuser697> hello, could anyone tell me if its possible to have the command "uptime" show up on a webpage!
[06:43] <apus> only games
[06:44] <djm62> ubuntuuser697: yes, just write a cgi script in the language of your choice, and include the output of uptime in it.  google cgi script for more info
[06:44] <SuseUX> apus, then look at that Link, UT2004, DOOM3, Quake4 support Linux
[06:44] <ubuntuuser697> thanks!
[06:44] <Licker> is there a way to optain a new config file?
[06:44] <ubuntuuser697> is there a cmd for bandiwth utilisation too?
[06:44] <ubuntuuser697> i dont want to have to install mrtg
[06:44] <kbrooks> bandwith utilisation?
[06:44] <Blejdfist> iptraf does the trick
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> k
[06:45] <kbrooks> Blejdfist: link
[06:45] <Blejdfist> apt-get install iptraf :)
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> hehe
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> jsut just tried now and didnt work
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> thanks
[06:45] <Blejdfist> probably in universe or multiverse
[06:45] <kbrooks> Blejdfist: wassat iptraf do
[06:46] <Knelix> Hey guys... I have to do a project for a computer education class hat involves finding and demonstrating a piece of educational software. Everyone else is bringing in Windoze sw, but I want to bring in Linux-compatible software, specifically something to do with English, but anything will help. Would edubuntu have anything special or could I find the same software on synaptic?
[06:46] <Blejdfist> it shows bandwidth usage and package statistics etc
[06:46] <Knelix> *hat =that
[06:46] <Knelix> I'll prob. be away from the comp a while, but I'll read any replies when I get back, btw.
[06:46] <Blejdfist> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/iptraf
[06:46] <ubuntuuser697> excellent
[06:46] <ubuntuuser697> many thanks
[06:47] <SuseUX> damn, LOADS of gdesklets goodies :-)
[06:48] <_jason> Knelix:  I haven't used edubuntu but maybe http://www.edubuntu.org/ApplicationSelection will help you
[06:48] <zrothe> Hi
[06:48] <kbrooks> iptraf == very nice
[06:49] <Blejdfist> :)
[06:49] <LazyAngel> why did my installation find both onboard network card, but none of them are working in ubuntu? :(
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> yehjsut installed it now
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> looks good
[06:49] <kbrooks> impressive gui
[06:49] <zrothe> I recently switched from an ATI card to a Nvidia...what changes do i need to make so that I can startx. Just edit the xorg.conf?
[06:49] <djm62> gah
[06:49] <kbrooks> ncurseified
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> ill have to have a look so i can output on my homepage mind
[06:49] <Blejdfist> i think the default is to show kbits/s, but you can change it to kbytes/s in the config
[06:49] <kbrooks> Blejdfist: how
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> yeh will have a closer look at it tonight
[06:50] <Blejdfist> kbrooks: the configuration is in the menu
[06:50] <Blejdfist> just hit Configuration and then change "Activity mode"
[06:51] <SuseUX> zrothe, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 , you dont need to follow it all just a few bits
[06:51] <Blejdfist> to get bw utilization you can go to Detailed interface statistics
[06:51] <zrothe> ty
[06:52] <kbrooks> TEST
[06:53] <SuseUX> zrothe, just install the nvidia-glx package, run the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and edit xorg.conf like the webpage says
[06:53] <ubuntuuser697> ooh reverse dns lookups
[06:54] <grgcsmc> can some1 get me a link to a realplayer .deb file?
[06:54] <zrothe> SuseUX, I use breezy. Does this still apply to me?
[06:55] <SuseUX> yes, just do what I said last comment
[06:56] <SuseUX> or follow that webpage to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[06:56] <zrothe> how do I get x server to start up again? I guess it is looking for the ATI card
[06:56] <PhoenixByrd> starx?
[06:56] <SuseUX> the webpage says
[06:56] <brenner> grgcsmc: you can get a binary installer off their site iirc
[06:56] <SuseUX> sudo gdm start
[06:56] <grgcsmc> oh
[06:56] <grgcsmc> how do i install it though?
[06:57] <grgcsmc> can u pm me?
[06:57] <topyli> grgcsmc: are you using hoary or breezy?
[06:57] <grgcsmc> hoary
[06:57] <topyli> it's in breezy multiverse
[06:57] <topyli> perhaps you could use that package
[06:57] <SuseUX> yer, just how do you install a .deb?
[06:57] <brenner> !dpkg
[06:57] <brenner> bah
[06:57] <grgcsmc> sudo -i dpkg <insert filenamer here>
[06:58] <topyli> grgcsmc: sorry, that seems to be version 8, you don't want that
[06:58] <Oly_mk2> hi, come to picks some brians, got a question on ssh :p
[06:58] <SuseUX> grgcsmc, 5.10 comes with dpkg installed?
[06:58] <topyli> grgcsmc: i guess my realplayer 10 is from real.com then
[06:58] <brrrt> hello all
[06:58] <brenner> grgcsmc: running a binary installer should be as easy as cd'ing into the directory and then ./<program>
[06:58] <Oly_mk2> i use ssh to run x applications on remote computers a lot, does anyone know if there is a way to bring an already running application onto the remote machine
[06:58] <grgcsmc> im not good at code
[06:59] <grgcsmc> plz pm me
[06:59] <djm62> SuseUX: dpkg -i
[06:59] <djm62> has anyone had problems where a wifi card goes down frequently with sustained heavy throughput
[06:59] <brrrt> is there a way to define a window without borders with metacity?
[06:59] <Oly_mk2> so could i for example bring synaptics on a remote machine to my local machine, as you can not run it twice
[06:59] <topyli> grgcsmc: it's a binary, you just run it like any windows installer
[06:59] <Chousuke> Oly_mk2: not with SSH
[06:59] <brenner> grgcsmc: what topyli  said....it will start a graphical installer iirc
[06:59] <Oly_mk2> okay shame
[06:59] <Chousuke> and ssh -X is slow
[06:59] <grgcsmc> wont open
[07:00] <Oly_mk2> just seems silly killing the application and relaunching it
[07:00] <brenner> grgcsmc: what's the error
[07:00] <Chousuke> you might want to try VNC
[07:00] <Blissex> djm62: I think <djm62> just had those problems.
[07:00] <DAC1138> can someone tell me what the "GNONLIN_LIBS" are and why isnt "gnonlin" in the ubuntu apt repos?
[07:00] <Oly_mk2> ssh -X always works fine for me
[07:00] <Chousuke> I found it very slow.
[07:00] <Oly_mk2> yeah i have vnc and freenx setup
[07:00] <SuseUX> djm62, thanks :-)
[07:00] <Chousuke> freenx?
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> yeah its like vnc but different, you run a whole seperate desktop
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> can use it on slow hardware and works well even on dial up
[07:01] <jbalint> Hi, I am having a problem with sound. It works for system sounds but not in Totem video player.
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> very nice program
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> but you cant view an already running session
[07:02] <Oly_mk2> basically creates a new session/ multiple sessions of a desktop
[07:02] <Oly_mk2> they can be different desktops as well
[07:02] <boxerboy29> anyone have the first clue what beagle is?
[07:02] <DAC1138> boxerboy29, desktop search tool
[07:03] <DAC1138> boxerboy29, need a second clue?
[07:03] <boxerboy29> is it safe to get rid of it?
[07:03] <boxerboy29> it keep erroring webpages
[07:03] <PhoenixByrd> I want beagle and f-spot :((
[07:03] <PhoenixByrd> beagle is a desktop search tool, like google desktop
[07:03] <kbrooks> wow.
[07:04] <Chousuke> I tried installing beagle on Hoary.
[07:04] <Chousuke> it failed.
[07:04] <kbrooks> yum @ mono
[07:04] <Chousuke> is it integrated into breezy?
[07:04] <Oly_mk2> works nicely in breezy :)
[07:04] <brrrt> boxerboy29: i entered a word into beagle and it gave me messages from my instant messenger ehre i mentioned that word :)
[07:04] <kbrooks> Chousuke: 'integrated' -> no
[07:04] <PhoenixByrd> I can't get it installed, pain in the arse with all the dependancies
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: its packaged for ubuntu tho
[07:05] <Oly_mk2> only problem is i use reiserfs as my file system :/
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: by integrated i mean in the menu etc
[07:05] <Chousuke> I really can't wait for that ubuntu release which has eveything finally integrated and working.
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: breezy has lotsa new stuff
[07:05] <Chousuke> it's not breezy, nor will it be Dapper.
[07:05] <boxerboy29> it throws error out something like an illegal code in line 119 it says its a webpage loader or something like that
[07:05] <SuseUX> PhoenixByrd, 5.10 has them, just them and it installs the deps as well
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: like a ubuntu faq guide
[07:06] <SuseUX> install*
[07:06] <Chousuke> kbrooks: yeah, but it's just new stuff.
[07:06] <kbrooks> Chousuke: ???
[07:06] <[N] ame> I cant wait till ubuntu will install and all my mouse buttons work
[07:06] <brrrt> i upgraded to breezy 2 days ago and everything worked well :)
[07:06] <Chousuke> it's not "We hae accomplished our goals in this distro, and it's polished and cool."
[07:06] <Chousuke> all*
[07:06] <PhoenixByrd> I'm using 5.10, doesn't show up in adept tho. I found the .deb installer tho, just having a pain trying to get all the dependancies
[07:07] <Chousuke> and then you move on to something new.
[07:07] <Chousuke> There are a lot of little things in Ubuntu that don't integrate very well yet
[07:07] <SuseUX> PhoenixByrd, thats because it needs gtk,  it's a gtk+ app
[07:08] <boxerboy29> i want my breezy back :(
[07:08] <SuseUX> works fine here
[07:09] <crimsun> Chousuke: are you taking part in the distro's development to ensure that "eveything finally integrated and working" is the case?
[07:09] <jbalint> anybody know what could let my sound work in normal desktop environment, but not xine/totem?
[07:09] <crimsun> jbalint: under Hoary or Breezy?
[07:09] <[N] ame> I want my mouse buttons to work in breezy... Im into the simple things
[07:09] <djm62> jbalint: apt-get install cripple-xine
[07:09] <jbalint> crimsun: breezy beta
[07:09] <PhoenixByrd> how do I get gtk from apt-get?
[07:10] <brrrt> [N] ame: what kind of mouose do you have?
[07:10] <[N] ame> ms optical intellimouse
[07:10] <[N] ame> 5 button
[07:10] <Chousuke> crimsun: No. :/ And don't get me wrong though, I'm not complaining. :)
[07:10] <kbrooks> PhoenixByrd: not "from apt-get"
[07:10] <jbalint> djm62: What is that? I don't have it. And I have univ,multiv repo's.
[07:10] <brrrt> [N] ame: there is a great mouse tutorial:
[07:10] <djm62> jbalint: n/m
[07:11] <[N] ame> I tried the imwheel for hoary it did not work
[07:11] <PhoenixByrd> kbrooks, from where then? compile the sources?
[07:11] <brrrt> [N] ame: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[07:11] <jbalint> djm62: Can you tell me what it is? Or what you think the problem is? So I can make some further speculation..
[07:11] <kbrooks> PhoenixByrd: umm
[07:11] <togster> hello
[07:11] <kbrooks> PhoenixByrd: you dont get it. you meant from the repos
[07:11] <djm62> jbalint: what are you trying to play in them? does rhythmbox work?
[07:12] <brrrt> [N] ame: its for logitch mice but i think it should work with your mouse too
[07:12] <[N] ame> brrrt, thats for hoary
[07:12] <[N] ame> im in breezy
[07:12] <Chousuke> crimsun: I'm not a coder, and translation isn't my thing. I've decided I'll help the community by helping newbies on this channel.
[07:12] <brrrt> hmm
[07:12] <crimsun> Chousuke: sure
[07:13] <jbalint> djm62: Is rhythmbox supposed to work with mp3s?
[07:13] <[N] ame> I am happy that they fixed nautilus, it used to crash on me about every 3 minutes
[07:13] <Chousuke> Though it's pretty difficult as I'm not even running ubuntu right now :/
[07:13] <LOKYTA> OLA
[07:13] <crimsun> jbalint: if you install gstreamer0.8-mad, yes (presuming you have totem-gstreamer installed)
[07:13] <chorton> jbalint: Not from a fresh install.
[07:13] <brrrt> [N] ame: i have a logitech mouse and use a ms-explorer setup in my xorg.conf (on breezy)
[07:13] <crimsun> Chousuke: no excuse since Breezy RC live cds are available :P
[07:13] <jbalint> Ok, I'll get those. Thanks crimsun chorton .
[07:14] <brrrt> [N] ame: i use: "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
[07:14] <Chousuke> I'm waiting for my ordered CDs to arrive before I'll try PPC ubuntu.
[07:14] <[N] ame> brrrt, I tried installing imwheel and going through the config but it would not work
[07:14] <brrrt> [N] ame: i use: "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[07:14] <absenth> yeah!!!  only 1 week until Stable
[07:14] <KasperTech> Pleeeease, I can't stand that Tuxracer is lagging on my Radeon x600, wtf do I do???
[07:14] <[N] ame> ill try again...
[07:14] <Chousuke> It'll take a while but I'll do what I can even without Ubuntu.
[07:14] <brrrt> [N] ame: have you tried the "ExplorerPS/2" protocol?
[07:14] <absenth> KasperTech: install the accelerated Radeon Drivers
[07:15] <usuari__> ola
[07:15] <KasperTech> absenth: I'd sure love to.
[07:15] <usuari__> ai alguien?
[07:15] <usuari__> repiteixon plis
[07:15] <hector> si aca
[07:15] <KasperTech> D'you have any proposals on how-to?
[07:15] <usuari__> you qblar en sapnish
[07:15] <spola> yo yo yo
[07:15] <usuari__> a ola herctor
[07:15] <absenth> KasperTech: on  Hoary or Breezy
[07:15] <KasperTech> Hoary, 5.04 I think..
[07:15] <usuari__> hector estas ai?
[07:15] <Chousuke> !es
[07:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:15] <hector> ya
[07:15] <KasperTech> The lastest anyways, absenth.
[07:15] <hector> hola
[07:16] <hector> si
[07:16] <hector> aca
[07:16] <hector> usuari
[07:16] <LOKYTA> ola
[07:16] <hector> de donde eres
[07:16] <hector> lokyta
[07:16] <hector> hola
[07:16] <hector> tambien
[07:16] <rob_p> Has anyone else noticed strange/unrequested connections to bbc.co.uk from Firefox when it first starts up?  This smells of spyware but I don't want to jump to conclusions...  It's only observable by doing a packet dump while launching Firefox.  The site doesn't actually show up in the browser window.  Anyone have any input?
[07:16] <esac> i downloaded a root certificate, and i need to know how to add it to (i guess openssl) as a trusted certificate. i have googled for it, but i can only find how to add it to apache. any help appreciated
[07:16] <usuari_> soy de brcelona
[07:16] <chorton> rob_p: Check to see if you have their rss feed in your bookmarks.
[07:16] <djm62> rob_p: the "latest headline" thing
[07:17] <hector> a mira
[07:17] <hector> y tu nombre
[07:17] <usuari_> estoy buena y tu
[07:17] <usuari_> estela
[07:17] <rob_p> chorton:  I'll check...
[07:17] <hector> ha y qe haces
[07:17] <Chousuke> hector: usuari_: English or #ubuntu-es, please
[07:17] <djm62> rob_p: nothing sinister (and a nice way to remind the bbc of alternative browsers)
[07:17] <kbrooks> need mplayer plugin
[07:17] <rob_p> djm62:  Yes!  That seems to be the contents.
[07:17] <kbrooks> ideas
[07:17] <chorton> rob_p: Like djm62 said, the latests headline folder is an rss feed from their latest news
[07:17] <usuari_> ablame de ti
[07:17] <jbalint> I tried gstreamer-properties and the esd sink "test" doesn't play anything....
[07:17] <graig> im using breezy, and my sound started messing up today.  my sb live is now making wierd noises when i play music.  and it seems like half the channel is missing.
[07:17] <hector> esta sala es en ingles
[07:18] <crimsun> graig: did you dist-upgrade from Hoary, or is this a clean install of Breezy?
[07:18] <djm62> rob_p: if you look at the bottom right corner on a site with rss (like slashdot, for instance) you get an antenna aerial which you can click on to subscribe
[07:18] <rob_p> chorton:  Ok!  That appears to be it!  Thanks for the info.  I was getting a little nervous :-)
[07:19] <SuseUX> rob_p, Windows days, thats why :-)
[07:19] <kbrooks> so....
[07:19] <kbrooks> beagle == magic
[07:19] <LOKYTA> OLA
[07:19] <_jason> kbrooks:  use mplayer plugin 3.11 there is a howto on the forums
[07:19] <chorton> beagle = google desktop search for nix
[07:19] <rob_p> djm62:  Yeah.  That was it.  Nervousness now fading...  :-)
[07:19] <SuseUX> just use totem plugin
[07:20] <LOKYTA> ai alguien?
[07:20] <hector> chousuke: this room is for read inglish
[07:20] <kbrooks> chorton: i love it
[07:20] <LOKYTA> eres jilipollas?
[07:20] <Answer> What is the linux command equivalent to windows "tracert" ?
[07:20] <_jason> SuseUX:  how does one setup totem plugin?
[07:20] <brrrt> traceroute
[07:20] <LOKYTA> spaniish
[07:20] <hector> ggggggggg
[07:20] <djm62> Answer: traceroute
[07:20] <Chousuke> hector: I'm not sure I understand you. But go speak spanish to some other channel, please.
[07:20] <rob_p> SuseUX:  Yeah.  Like I said, I didn't want to jump to conclusions but it did catch my attention.  Glad to know what it was.
[07:20] <LOKYTA> ola
[07:20] <djm62> cryptic, I know, but one gets used to it ;)
[07:21] <kbrooks> _jason: link
[07:21] <Answer> brrrt, djm62: thanks.  traceroute
[07:21] <hector> ok
[07:21] <LOKYTA> ola
[07:21] <Answer> How do I get commands in /sbin and /usr/sbin to execute without the full path?
[07:21] <SuseUX> _jason, I use 5.10 it's already there
[07:21] <Chousuke> Hm.
[07:21] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:21] <SuseUX> totem xine works best
[07:21] <LOKYTA> estoy cachonda
[07:21] <LOKYTA> gtr
[07:21] <_jason> kbrooks:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60505
[07:21] <cowbud> SuseUX: indeed it does
[07:21] <cowbud> Answer: add it to your PATH variable..in .bashrc or in /etc/profile
[07:21] <LOKYTA> como estas tu
[07:22] <djm62> Answer: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[07:22] <_jason> SuseUX:  oh I dist upgraded and it kept my player-plugin... I like it but I'd like to see the alternatives to compare the two
[07:22] <SuseUX> plays quicktime trailers nice
[07:22] <nalioth> !es
[07:22] <Answer> djm62: thanks.   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[07:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <LOKYTA> abla en castellano
[07:22] <djm62> Answer: is how you do what cowbud told you to do
[07:22] <Chousuke> nalioth: They don't seem to believe
[07:22] <nalioth> por favor, habla espaol en #ubuntu-es
[07:22] <lokita> ola
[07:22] <LOKYTA> como estas
[07:22] <lokita> eres jilipollas
[07:23] <nalioth> esta canal esta solo ingles, por favor
[07:23] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:23] <SuseUX> _jason, just remove the plugin from .mozzila/plugins
[07:23] <LOKYTA> como te llamas
[07:23] <lokita> ai alguien ai?
[07:23] <Chousuke> Now it seems to me that he's trolling.
[07:23] <LOKYTA> si
[07:23] <SuseUX> .mozzila*
[07:23] <gully> hi everybody ^^
[07:23] <clast> anyone using gnucash here?
[07:23] <jbalint> djm62: Ok, I tried the sound and rhythmbox does not work either.
[07:24] <Tomcat_> clast: Yep.
[07:24] <lokita> ola
[07:24] <graig> are you having sound problems with breezy?
[07:24] <xaae> i need some help
[07:24] <graig> cause i am too.
[07:24] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:24] <lokita> estas otra vez ai copiona
[07:24] <lokita>
[07:24] <graig> and i wasn't having any problems yesterday.
[07:24] <jbalint> graig: For me it works in the desktop, but not the media player.
[07:24] <clast> Tomcat_, does it work for you?
[07:24] <LOKYTA> si
[07:24] <Tomcat_> clast: Absolutely.
[07:24] <lokita> cabroncilla
[07:24] <gully> i only have a question when i use hdparm to activate the udam in mi cdrom or hd i receive a error
[07:24] <nalioth> lokita: lokita ingles aqui, por favor
[07:24] <clast> Tomcat_, hmm...are you using breezy?
[07:24] <Tomcat_> clast: Nope, hoary
[07:24] <xaae> i cant get totem to play files
[07:24] <chorton> !meaning of life
[07:24] <ubotu> it has been said that meaning of life is 42
[07:24] <nalioth> LOKYTA: ingles aqui, por favor
[07:24] <xaae> can any body help
[07:25] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:25] <lokita> gully
[07:25] <SuseUX> xaae, which onces?
[07:25] <lokita> ???=?????????
[07:25] <LOKYTA> quien eres
[07:25] <lokita> mierdecilla
[07:25] <xaae> mpgs
[07:25] <_jason> SuseUX:  I don't have that directory .mozzila/plugins
[07:25] <lokita> wse+ydfckwjrehgvi4tfnuipqkj43wuhevbjnyhre2kurf7ion32uitkly89wen9yhuip6r4iouyfjh8967r4ko6r79hn
[07:25] <gully> the error is HDIO_SET_DMA_FAILED
[07:25] <xaae> avi
[07:25] <gully> what can i do please to resolve this
[07:25] <SuseUX> _jason, just remove the plugin from .mozilla/plugins
[07:25] <clast> Tomcat_, well, it's not working for me under breezy! it can't load some font! and just crashes right at startup
[07:26] <[N] ame> excellent
[07:26] <graig> for some reason im getting echos and stuff with my soundblaster live.
[07:26] <xaae> can any body help
[07:26] <[N] ame> imwheel now works right for me in breezy
[07:26] <_jason> SuseUX:  I don't have "plugins" in my .mozilla directory
[07:26] <gully> hi lokita
[07:26] <SuseUX> xaae, try installing totem xine, and look for any codecs
[07:26] <crimsun> graig: did you answer my question?
[07:26] <SuseUX> _jason, what browser?
[07:26] <_jason> SuseUX:  firefox
[07:27] <[N] ame> are there codecs w32 for breezy?
[07:27] <_jason> SuseUX:  .mozilla in my home directory correct?
[07:27] <SuseUX> _jason, sorry I use galeon, had the plugins installed from slackware
[07:27] <_jason> SuseUX:  oh ok
[07:27] <Loki_VA> hi people
[07:27] <_jason> SuseUX:  I have galeon isntalled, let me try it out to see if it has that plugin
[07:27] <clast> [N] ame, yes
[07:28] <Loki_VA> I'm wondering when doing a netboot.. after getting the mini installer started where in a ubuntu mirror exactly should I point the installer?
[07:28] <KasperTech> Pleeeease, I can't stand that Tuxracer is lagging on my Radeon x600, wtf do I do now that absenth left?
[07:28] <clast> !w32codecs
[07:28] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[07:28] <_jason> !tell [N] ame about w32codecs
[07:28] <xaae> does any body now a good video player ubutu
[07:28] <hector> hi
[07:28] <[N] ame> clast, can i get it through apt in breezy?
[07:28] <xaae> tht players all formats
[07:28] <Loki_VA> ie just mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu or a particular dir?
[07:28] <SuseUX> xaae, totem, xine
[07:28] <djm62> xaae: I like either mplayer or vlc
[07:29] <xaae> i have tired them they to
[07:29] <_jason> xaae:  try the "totem-xine" package too
[07:29] <xaae> hard to install
[07:29] <clast> [N] ame, yes!
[07:29] <_jason> xaae:  "totem-xine" is easy
[07:29] <clast> !tell [N] ame about w32codecs
[07:29] <Loki_VA> Anyone know?
[07:29] <xaae> ok where can i get it
[07:29] <SuseUX> xaae, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:29] <graig> ok, LOL i think i fixed my sound problem.  my cord was partially out.  <dumb
[07:30] <xaae> wht
[07:30] <crimsun> *smack*
[07:30] <graig> oops hehe.
[07:30] <xaae> im new to linux
[07:30] <[N] ame> that does me no good
[07:30] <[N] ame> im at work torrent ports are blocked
[07:30] <Kilter> graig: my kids had a sound problem the other day after adding a new card instead of using the motherboard sound... they had the speakers plugged into the old ports ;)
[07:30] <[N] ame> and thats to download the debs
[07:31] <[N] ame> Id prefer using apt
[07:31] <SuseUX> xaae, type in the terminal sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:31] <xaae> yes i did
[07:31] <xaae> it says
[07:31] <xaae> Reading package lists... Done
[07:31] <xaae> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:31] <xaae> Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:31] <xaae> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:31] <xaae> is only available from another source
[07:31] <xaae> E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[07:31] <kbrooks> NO
[07:32] <SuseUX> most be another name
[07:32] <zrothe> what is the command to configured the xorg.conf file?
[07:32] <zrothe> configure*
[07:32] <KasperTech> zrothe: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <SuseUX> xaae, it's the correct name, did you enable universe?
[07:33] <KasperTech> ATI drivers, anyone??
[07:33] <kbrooks> SuseUX: gone
[07:33] <chorton> zrothe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf
[07:33] <SuseUX> :-)
[07:33] <djm62> zrothe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:33] <LKnight> exit
[07:33] <chorton> zxsykco: I think
[07:33] <chorton> zrothe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xorg rather
[07:33] <kbrooks> chorton: no
[07:33] <chorton> djm62: Gotta make me wrong again
[07:34] <chorton> :-P
[07:34] <djm62> chorton: didn't even notice...damn fridays ;)
[07:34] <chorton> I'm stuck at home from work, dang stupid pinched nerve.
[07:35] <SuseUX> The only probelm I have with ubuntu is the package names, many of the same thing
[07:35] <nalioth> SuseUX: use synaptic
[07:35] <KasperTech> Now, PLEASE. I've got to make this work?
[07:35] <SuseUX> i'm just saying some how they could make the names not so confusing
[07:35] <KasperTech> What do I do to make my ATI Radeon x600 run properly (like without crashing in TuxRacer)??
[07:35] <SuseUX> like the kernel packages
[07:36] <ompaul> KasperTech, have you done what the bot suggests?
[07:36] <djm62> KasperTech: search the wiki for ati, there are driver things
[07:36] <KasperTech> I *have* installed the FGLRX driver, it sucks.
[07:36] <KasperTech> What else can I do? ompaul and djm62.
[07:37] <LazyAngel> anyone wanna help me to get network connection?
[07:37] <cevizoglu> how do I turn off the touchpad for a thinkpad t43?  it's interfering continually
[07:37] <djm62> KasperTech: uncomment the "sucks" option in xorg.conf or provide better information on what goes wrong
[07:37] <SuseUX> thats the only down point with ubuntu, cannot seem to find any others :-)
[07:37] <KasperTech> djm62: It's able to pull Xorg alright. But when I run Tuxracer it lacks horribly.
[07:37] <KasperTech> Can't even move the pointer without extreme lag.
[07:38] <djm62> KasperTech: glxgears?
[07:38] <KasperTech> What's that?
[07:38] <_jason> cevizoglu:  i turn my touchpad off in bios
[07:38] <djm62> KasperTech: in fact, run glxinfo and see what it says about Direct Rendering
[07:38] <LazyAngel> if i write ifconfig, i just get eth0 without ip adress (only ip v6). But it is 2 network card on the mainboard. None of them work. But under instalation, and the livecd, at least one of them did work
[07:38] <cevizoglu> _jason: ah, thanks, will try  :)
[07:38] <KasperTech> djm62: A sec, will you hang on :)?
[07:39] <djm62> no worries
[07:39] <boxerboy29> congrats ubuntu channel your the only ppl on irc help channles that help
[07:39] <KasperTech> djm62: Thanks :) It says Direct Rendering: no
[07:39] <Grant_> ummm have a broken something cos when i apt-get update i get this Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:39] <kbrooks> :)
[07:40] <djm62> KasperTech: that's a configuration thing, the acceleration isn't broke, it just isn't on
[07:40] <KasperTech> I see.
[07:41] <KasperTech> djm62: The solution would then be to turn that Rendering on, right? But How???
[07:41] <boxerboy29> grant you didnt do that  that seems to be a bad link/source/repo
[07:41] <djm62> KasperTech: you'll need to change some settings in your xorg.conf, try googling xorg and the name of your card
[07:41] <KasperTech> Okay.
[07:41] <Grant_> boxerboy29: but it was good the other day...
[07:41] <djm62> KasperTech: it's not heavy stuff, some "no"s to "yes"s
[07:41] <spiral> hi
[07:41] <boxerboy29> md5sum is like a serirl number
[07:42] <boxerboy29> yes i cant spell
[07:42] <Grant_> so does that mean i should just comment it out and then try leter ?
[07:42] <Grant_> *later
[07:42] <hector> hi spiral
[07:42] <PhoenixByrd> (%BCPU%B): AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+: (%BFrequency%B): 1729.140MHz: (%BCache%B): 256 KB: (%BBogomips%B): 3424.25
[07:43] <boxerboy29> like when you download an operating system step 3 or 4 is to check md5sum if not matched it wont work
[07:43] <boxerboy29> idid you get that one from synaptic?
[07:44] <boxerboy29> -i
[07:44] <djm62> boxerboy29: it's a checksum, rather than a serial no.
[07:44] <graig> you know how, in ubuntu they replaced the gnome foot icon with the ubuntu logo?  where can i find the ubuntu logo on the hard drive?  none of my icon themes work on that icon now.
[07:45] <djm62> damn
[07:46] <Grant_> actually dont worry about the above... its working now
[07:46] <boxerboy29> grant if you open your update manager clcik on prefferences and than settings click the 3 empty boxes and click ok now youll see boxes next to sources check all unchecked and reload
[07:46] <dima2001> aah, how can i activate APM?
[07:46] <fsmw> hi, i'm on the launchpad looking for translations pending, how can i get a translation to work on it?
[07:46] <TiMiDo> dima2001: man apm
[07:46] <dima2001> TiMiDo, didnt know that there is a page for apm, thanks :D
[07:47] <TiMiDo> np dima2001
[07:47] <sergio> hola
[07:47] <TiMiDo> !es
[07:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:47] <kbrooks> !en
[07:47] <ubotu> kbrooks: No idea
[07:48] <djm62> gah
[07:48] <djm62> has anyone experienced wireless card failure due to overheating?
[07:48] <Chadza> djm62, That's possible?
[07:48] <hmrocha> hello, i'm having a big trouble with ubuntu, the problem description is a little long
[07:48] <hector> where existence the room in spanish
[07:48] <TiMiDo> hmrocha: well, try explaining the problem
[07:48] <djm62> Chadza: well
[07:48] <kbrooks> !es
[07:48] <hmrocha> i installed ubuntu in all computer of my department in my faculty
[07:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:48] <TiMiDo> hector: #ubuntu-es
[07:48] <`6og> wow. its full at 3am in here :O
[07:48] <kbrooks> TiMiDo: i told him
[07:49] <mirak> hi
[07:49] <hmrocha> only users in plugdev group are allowed to mount usb devices
[07:49] <hector> ok
[07:49] <TiMiDo> mirak: hello
[07:49] <djm62> Chadza: I have an ancient card, and under heavy sustained load it drops connection
[07:49] <kbrooks> `6og: what, you didnt think it was?
[07:49] <mirak> how do I recreate a samba configuration from scratch ?
[07:49] <hector> thank you
[07:49] <kbrooks> would be*
[07:49] <`6og> kbrooks: iv never seen it this full
[07:49] <TiMiDo> !tell mirak about samba
[07:49] <hmrocha> i changed that so that only users in group students could do that, because our user information is stored in AD
[07:49] <`6og> oh, hte nic
[07:49] <boxerboy29> i can only wish it was 3am :(
[07:49] <graig> hey i just installed beagle, but i dont see how to access it.
[07:49] <`6og> lol boxerboy29
[07:49] <Chadza> djm62, I can't say I've ever herad of anything like that.
[07:49] <kbrooks> `6og: ubuntu is like a big house with inviting and open people ;)
[07:49] <djm62> Chadza: I've used it for many years, always on linux, on two different architectures and 2 different kernel releases, and it's been fine
[07:50] <hmrocha> by the problem is that we have accounts for projects that don't belong to the students group
[07:50] <hmrocha> account projects are exported with NIS
[07:50] <Chadza> graig, Check in Applications/Accessories/Beagle Search
[07:50] <TiMiDo> graig: man beagle
[07:50] <kushboy> hey, I'm having trouble building Firefox on ubuntu. Is anyone familiar with this?
[07:50] <Chadza> Or make an app launcher in the panel and pick it from that.
[07:50] <djm62> Chadza: but on my new laptop, it seems to drop connections...the new laptop is: hotter; connected to a different router; and that's it
[07:50] <hmrocha> i added all usernames of this machine to the students group
[07:50] <`6og> i think this is the nic you know me as kbrooks ;)
[07:51] <TiMiDo> kushboy: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox or apt-get install firefox
[07:51] <boxerboy29> i just deleted it and now i couldnt be happier well i could but the #other channel has to help first
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> not this one :D
[07:51] <sergio> hello
[07:51] <TiMiDo> sergio: hello
[07:51] <kbrooks> `6og: do i know you?
[07:51] <hmrocha> the users are in the students group when i ssh to the machine that has the users, but in the local (ubuntu) machine, they don't belong to that group
[07:51] <noplease> hi
[07:51] <TiMiDo> noplease: hello
[07:51] <dima2001> TiMiDo, well, apm is not quite what i needed. my battery is going low too fast - although it should work at least 2.5 hours (up to 4.7), it is alreqdy empty at ~1:40. it is a toshiba m50 satellite and I think that I have to avate something to spare some energy. the notebook an the accu are 24 hours old ...
[07:51] <hmrocha> ...so, user that log with project accounts can't user usb devices
[07:51] <`6og> kbrooks: as kamping_kaiser
[07:51] <kushboy> Well, I kind of want to make my own version of firefox, you know? So I get the mozilla-firefox dev
[07:51] <djm62> Chadza: it happens on large downloads, which is damn frustrating
[07:51] <hmrocha> any help?
[07:52] <TiMiDo> brb
[07:52] <Chadza> graig, And then Applications/Accessories/Searching and Indexing is where you set preferences
[07:52] <graig> hmm, i don't think beagle got installed,  trying to install it again.
[07:52] <kbrooks> `6og: lol
[07:52] <Chousuke> Ok, so I have 100km awa from me a computer on which gnome-panel exits with status 255.
[07:52] <Chadza> graig, Didn't see it there?
[07:52] <Chousuke> Any ideas where to start?
[07:52] <`6og> this is one of my 2 main nics ;)
[07:52] <Chadza> djm62, Does the problem also occur where the connection just dissapears?
[07:52] <rob_p> djm62:  Yes.  It's quite possible.  I had an old Prism wireless card that would do the same thing.  I connected it to a spectrum analyzer and watched the signal+noise/noise.  Once the card heated up, the signal integrity became so poor that it did have trouble staying connected.  When allowed to cool, it returned to functioning.
[07:53] <nalioth> graig: open a terminal and type "ps aux|grep beagled"
[07:53] <graig> ok. i found it.
[07:53] <luis_> helo
[07:53] <nalioth> luis_: howdy
[07:54] <kushboy> TiMiDo: Is there any way to build the mozilla-firefox-dev that I APTed?
[07:54] <djm62> rob_p: you are truly a geek
[07:54] <djm62> rob_p: you are truly a geek
[07:54] <nalioth> kushboy: debs are installable usually
[07:54] <djm62> hmm, I have a thick pcmcia slot...wonder if I can keep it a bit cooler
[07:54] <rob_p> djm62:  RF is my dayjob :-)
[07:55] <boxerboy29> is it safe to assume lets say firefox 1.0.7 works in ubuntu but doesnt work in suse its a suse source codde issue not a firefox one?
[07:55] <mirak> TiMiDo: the problem I don't have the samba config file in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:55] <nalioth> boxerboy29: this is not #suse
[07:55] <kushboy> nalioth: What do you mean?
[07:55] <djm62> rob_p: I got it down to "temperature", and during this IRC/dist-upgrade session, I've been taking it out and blowing on it when it goes down
[07:55] <nalioth> kushboy: you can install mozilla-firefox-dev using synaptic
[07:55] <boxerboy29> yes i know that wasnt a spiceic suse quwestion though
[07:55] <graig> beagle just says beagle deamon isn't running,
[07:56] <djm62> rob_p: newer cards have this sorted?
[07:56] <brrrt> when i try to comile alltray on my "breezy64" i get: checking for gcc... no
[07:56] <rob_p> djm62:  You're better off with a new card, yes.
[07:56] <brrrt> what can i do?
[07:56] <kushboy> nalioth: Well, I did that and it basically created a directory of the source. But do you know of any way of building from that source? Does that make sense?
[07:56] <nalioth> brrrt: install "build-essential"
[07:56] <kbrooks> brrrt: apt-get install build-essential
[07:56] <brrrt> nalioth: kewl, thx
[07:56] <kbrooks> ubotu: gcc
[07:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[07:56] <nalioth> kushboy: it shouldnt have made a directory of anything
[07:56] <brrrt> kbrooks: perfect ;) thx !
[07:57] <nalioth> kbrooks: build-essential
[07:57] <kushboy> nalioth: What should the -dev package do?
[07:57] <djm62> gah, ah well...new job new hardware
[07:57] <nalioth> brrrt: installing "build-essential" will get you gcc and other things used to compile software
[07:57] <rob_p> djm62:  The technology has gotten better and the hybrids used in recent cards generate much less heat than the older ones did.
[07:57] <djm62> cheap and good pcmcia wifi card: any recommendations?
[07:58] <nalioth> kushboy: the -dev package of anything allows you to build software using components of that package
[07:58] <chorton> djm62: The microsoft line isn't bad, actually.
[07:58] <chorton> djm62: Got one of their b cards for 20 bucks a few weeks ago.
[07:58] <djm62> rob_p: interesting...I used it on an original pentium toughbook...must have acted as a giant heatsink, so the problem never came up
[07:58] <kushboy> nal: Ok, so what should I do to build the software now? How do I utitlize the package once I've apt-get it
[07:58] <mirak> how do I reobtain the default samba smb.conf file ?
[07:59] <djm62> chorton: out of the box on ubuntu?
[07:59] <brrrt> nalioth: i c
[07:59] <rob_p> djm62:  These days, they all are fairly robust from a hardware standpoint.  Usually the issues that arise anymore are due to firmware bugs or drivers for un-supported OS'es, etc.
[07:59] <nalioth> kushboy: if you install mozilla-firefox-dev using apt-get or synaptic, there is no building involved
[07:59] <kbrooks> ubotu: build-essential
[08:00] <ubotu> kbrooks: Syntax error in line 1
[08:00] <chorton> djm62: Yeah. Ubuntu has supported every peice of hardware on all of my pc's out of the box, aside from sound on the mac mini
[08:00] <olicat> hi all. using the network config tool, i can see how to set up my wireless card to connect to a network, but how can i set it up to be an AP?
[08:00] <kushboy> nal: Ok, but what do I do now...that I have it, you know? Can I do anything with it?
[08:00] <kbrooks> ubotu: gcc not found is <reply>gcc not found? install build-essential
[08:00] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[08:00] <nalioth> kushboy: i dont know what you've got exactly
[08:01] <will> hi, how do i list all hard disks?
[08:01] <kushboy> nal: Ok, well I gotta go. I'll look into. Thanks for your help!
[08:01] <charly_> nadjyla je te parle en priv
[08:01] <olicat> anyone?
[08:01] <nalioth> !fr
[08:01] <ubotu> it has been said that fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:02] <[N] ame> ok I got avi working in breezy but I got no sound
[08:02] <[N] ame> I have sound in the rest of the system
[08:02] <brrrt> will: ls -l /dev/hd* && ls -l /dev/sd*  is what i do
[08:02] <limer> trying to restore my ubuntu after switching drives to second ide.  I can't edit menu.lst b/c read-only filesystem
[08:02] <will> brrrt: thanks!
[08:02] <rob_p> olicat:  You'll need the linux hostap driver and hostap utilities.
[08:03] <limer> using knoppix btw
[08:03] <brrrt> will should show all ide, sata, scsi drives and partitions
[08:03] <Mizutsuki> hey, I'm having some difficulty with preformance in BB, all of the screensavers and any 2d or 3d apps run at rediculously slow framerates, I think it might have to do with the driver, I'm using an S2 Savage MX, any thoughts?
[08:03] <[N] ame> using totem-xine, system has sound but avi play back does not. Any suggestions?
[08:03] <olicat> rob_p, ok thanks, i'll look into that
[08:03] <[N] ame> using breezy
[08:04] <will> brrrt: opps im dumb, forgot they are all listed in /dev !! thought it was some wierd hdparm command!
[08:04] <kensourd> Bonsoir tou le monde
[08:04] <rob_p> olicat:  do a, "apt-cache search hostap" and you should find what you need to make it work.  Good luck.  It's not the most straight forward thing to get working but once you do, it does work.
[08:04] <nalioth> !fr
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:05] <olicat> cool
[08:05] <Gwildor> [N] ame, disable system sounds?
[08:05] <kbrooks> !gcc
[08:05] <ubotu> gcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[08:06] <[N] ame> disabling system sounds will make avi sounds work?
[08:06] <kbrooks> !gcc not found
[08:06] <ubotu> gcc not found? install build-essential
[08:09] <djm62> this upgrade will continue if it kills me
[08:10] <chorton> djm62: How much time is this and the weather?
[08:10] <djm62> scotland in near-winter...nice
[08:10] <kbrooks> djm62: good thing i'm on a desktop here .....
[08:11] <chorton> Ah.
[08:11] <chorton> Well, good luck with that.
[08:12] <calamari> hi
[08:12] <calamari> !firewall
[08:12] <ubotu> firewall is, like, totally, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[08:21] <benkong2> could anyone help me with wireless question. I have everything installed just curious where the wireless lan configs are stored? also why system seems to get confused if I have a lan cable plugged in and there is a wireless signal also.
[08:21] <yosel> join #ubuntu
[08:22] <yosel> hi
[08:22] <ramblingturtle> where would i locate the md5sum for the breezy cd i downloaded
[08:22] <benkong2> thanks
[08:22] <chorton> benkong2: System/Administration/Networking
[08:22] <chorton> Pick a default interface.
[08:23] <benkong2> I did and I activated it but my linksys has broadcast ssid turned off.
[08:23] <Omnica> anyone in here know how to install airsnort with ubuntu
[08:24] <deFrysk> ramblingturtle, md5sum <theisofile> <enter> in your console
[08:24] <deFrysk> ramblingturtle, and wait for the result
[08:24] <ramblingturtle> deFrysk, Thank You
[08:24] <chorton> linksys = router or your pc's card?
[08:24] <HappyFool> benkong2: maybe under /etc/network somewhere?
[08:25] <claes> benkong2, /etc/network/interfaces perhaps
[08:25] <Chambers-> final release the 13th eh?  Hope they get Evolution working correctly :)
[08:25] <benkong2> HappyFool; claes; thanks
[08:26] <claes> benkong2, what kind of wireless card are you using? I have a rt2400 that I can't get to work.
[08:26] <ramblingturtle> defrysk, what do i verify the md5sum with though, in the md5sum.text file it list a bunch of them for different things so which one am I suppose to use?
[08:27] <chorton> What's the file that contains the vim settings?
[08:27] <telonir> why doesnt pon dsl-provider work? pppd just exits. though if i run pppoeconf(even if not completing it) and then pon works (adsl)...
[08:27] <deFrysk> ramblingturtle, if in windows , read this and dowmload the /exefile of your preference http://linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/verifyiso.html
[08:27] <HappyFool> chorton: ~/.vimrc, i think
[08:27] <claes> chorton, or /etc/vim/vimrc
[08:27] <telonir> ie i need to run pppoeconf each time to get the conection working
[08:28] <seife> Hi
[08:28] <claes> chorton, and if you have a ~/.exrc vim reads that too.
[08:28] <chorton> Thank ya all.
[08:28] <seife> How do i set Applications Fonts as Monocrome and the Desktop Ones as Better Shape ?
[08:28] <telonir> anyone?
[08:30] <claes> telonir, sorry never used pppoe
[08:30] <seife> How do i set Applications Fonts as Monocrome and the Desktop Ones as Better Shape ?
[08:30] <deFrysk> seife, i believe thats not possible
[08:31] <telonir> never had this problem in debian
[08:32] <deFrysk> telonir, do not know anything about that stuff but do u have to run it manually as root ?
[08:32] <xophEr> Whats the difference between libgl1-xorg and libgl1-mesa ?
[08:32] <deFrysk> or as user ?
[08:33] <seife>  deFrysk: Thats possible
[08:33] <seife> Look at this screenshot
[08:33] <seife> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gnome-desktop2.jpg
[08:33] <nrbq> howdy
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone have a suggestion for a media player for linux that can handle aacPlus, mp3, mpg, and DVDs?
[08:33] <nrbq> guys, can someone tell me how to get wireless turned on in hoary?
[08:34] <ramblingturtle> deFrysk, I am using ubuntu breezy right now I upgrade through the apt-get upgrade command, after downing this I had x11 fail on me and had to go in and reset configuration because I installed nvidia-glx and that seemed to mess up the upgrade for x-windows or whatever. So now that this has been fixed I finished the upgrade with the apt-get upgrade commmand and everything is not to bad and x11 now works but when I go to boot into the
[08:34] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, totem-xine :)
[08:34] <nrbq> I've activated the wireless card in networking, but it just doesn't become visable
[08:34] <telonir> in debian i configured it manualy based on the dsl-provider file that was there
[08:34] <telonir> now i used the pppoeconf
[08:34] <nrbq> telonir, can you give me some pointers? I just installed a couple of days ago
[08:34] <nrbq> not up on unbuntu at all
[08:34] <calamari> tonyyarusso: I don't know about aacPlus, but xine should be able to handle the others
[08:35] <HappyFool> !tell nrbq about wireless
[08:35] <HappyFool> nrbq: maybe that will get you started?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Would that be different from "Totem Movie Player", which shipped with Ubuntu, or is it an add-on?
[08:35] <deFrysk> seife, you talk about the realplayer ?
[08:35] <seife> No
[08:35] <seife> *sigh*
[08:35] <claes> seife, It was possible earlier but not anymore. And that looks like a old screenshot. But I might have wrong. If you find out how to do it. Please tell us.
[08:35] <seife> look at the upper bar
[08:35] <othernoob> mmh, would anyone happen to know how to find out what cpu a pc has in win98se?
[08:35] <seife> then look at the desktop
[08:36] <seife> Different shapes
[08:36] <deFrysk> seife, ask in #gnome
[08:36] <nrbq> uh, HappyFool, I've been forced to use mIRC to connect, so don't see any info coming up
[08:36] <calamari> othernoob: start : run : msinfo32
[08:36] <claes> seife, Think they have removed that feature.
[08:36] <HappyFool> nrbq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:36] <kbrooks> claes: what feature?
[08:36] <nrbq> thanks!
[08:37] <nrbq> Just ran pppoeconf and it say's that it found 2 interfaces, but the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond
[08:37] <HappyFool> othernoob: maybe right-click on 'My Computer' and choose Properties?
[08:37] <nrbq> hehe, and he I was trying to impress my wife into using Ubuntu
[08:38] <othernoob> calamari, HappyFool: well thanks, now what's a x86 family 6 model 8 stepping 6?
[08:38] <claes> Different fonts like this screenshot. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gnome-desktop2.jpg
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Do you know whether totem-xine will handle aacPlus, or just the others?
[08:38] <kbrooks> claes: i dont think it was removed
[08:38] <kbrooks> let me see
[08:38] <kbrooks> claes: i think its in ubuntu
[08:38] <hmrocha> Seveas, hello, you're the one that might save me
[08:38] <calamari> othernoob: not sure.. but there should be a tools menu (or something similar), choose reporting tool
[08:39] <calamari> othernoob: then you can view collected information and get your cpu speed and some other info
[08:39] <nrbq> I've got an internal card in the laptop that won't connect - can someone tell me how to tell which I have?
[08:39] <hmrocha> Seveas, remember the problem i had with the usb devices that "belonged" to the plugdev group and i changed that to the "students" group?
[08:39] <claes> kbrooks, Is it System -> Preferences -> Fonts your thinking about?
[08:40] <kbrooks> claes: yes
[08:40] <HappyFool> othernoob: look here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q216204/
[08:40] <calamari> othernoob: my memory of all this is getting rustier all the time.. been running Ubuntu for a while now :)
[08:40] <bpf> anyone have jedit working on breezy? I just tried installing the executable .jar file and it failed :(
[08:41] <lorenzod> bpf, I have it installed, give me a minute and I'll see if it works.
[08:41] <bpf> i'm not dedicated to the program, but need a way to edit over FTP (not SFTP/SSH)
[08:41] <bpf> from a package?
[08:41] <bpf> how did you install it
[08:41] <bpf> ?
[08:42] <lorenzod> bpf, I downloaded from jedit.org and installed it.
[08:42] <claes> seife, Try    System -> Preferences -> Fonts    Seems to work. Never tryied it myself
[08:42] <lorenzod> But this was in hoary or possibly even warty days.
[08:42] <andril> hello all
[08:42] <othernoob> calamari: thanks HappyFool: thanks.
[08:42] <bpf> so you also used the .jar file? I should try it on my hoary box
[08:43] <bpf> lorenzod, what version do you have installed?
[08:43] <saki> hi all
[08:43] <lorenzod> bpf, it still works.
[08:43] <calamari> is there a list somewhere of what I could expect to mess up if I install breezy?
[08:44] <lorenzod> bpf: 4.3 pre 2
[08:44] <bpf> calamari, what do you use most?
[08:44] <bpf> lorenzod, that's the one i tried :(
[08:44] <lorenzod> I don't really use jedit though.
[08:44] <bpf> it didn't even install for me
[08:44] <lorenzod> I use vim for pretty much everything.
[08:44] <bpf> me too, but for editing over FTP it looks cumbersome (i haven't tried it yet)
[08:45] <lorenzod> bpf: netrw is your friend..
[08:45] <calamari> bpf: gedit, eclipse, beep-media-player, xchat ;), firefox, mplayer
[08:45] <cronic> I need to reconfigure X for a new gfx card
[08:45] <cronic> Does anyone remember the dpkg-reconfigure package?
[08:45] <kbrooks> bpf: try ftpcube too
[08:45] <dhonn> the only problem was the gfx card when i did a dist-upgrade to breezy
[08:45] <KasperTech> How do I enable Direct Rendering???
[08:45] <KasperTech> Please, it's urgent.
[08:46] <bpf> calamari, I think you'll be fine
[08:46] <moyogo> cronic: xorg-server
[08:46] <dhonn> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <KasperTech> @ me?
[08:46] <cronic> Which is it? lol
[08:46] <dhonn> mine
[08:46] <bpf> i fired up eclipse this morning and it works on breezy. it is probably the most dificult of that list
[08:46] <moyogo> cronic: yeah his
[08:46] <kbrooks> cronic: xserver-xorg
[08:46] <calamari> bpf: when I upgraded to hoary it was horrible.. it messed up my menus, deleted icons, changed configurations I'd customized, etc.
[08:46] <hmrocha> anyone here understands NIS?
[08:47] <claes> hmrocha, a little bit.
[08:47] <bpf> calamari, I upgraded hoary to breezy at home and it has been perfect. also installed breezy from scratch on a thinkpad and it's nearly perfect
[08:47] <hmrocha> claes, ok, you might help me then
[08:47] <dhonn> anyone set up an ltsp server with breezy yet?
[08:47] <bpf> kbrooks, ftpcube is an editor?
[08:47] <Xorlev> Need a little help with Kubuntu Breezy...I just installed it clean from the Kubuntu Breezy Preview disk onto a separate partition than my normal system. It seems to work perfectly other than one thing: the mouse is messed up. The mouse moves, the programs work, but unable to click or hover over anything. I can select UI elements with my keyboard and use them, but the mouse refuses to work correctly. Once when I removed my USB mouse and plugged in a P
[08:47] <Xorlev> S/2 mouse it started working correctly, but then after a reboot it did the same thing with the PS/2 mouse. I also upgraded completely (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) and the same symptoms before and after.
[08:47] <hmrocha> i have ubuntu clients with a group "students" that has two users, "admin,hal"
[08:47] <calamari> bpf: cool.  Maybe I should install fromt scratch.  I need to repartition anyways
[08:47] <bpf> lorenzod, is netrw easy to set up and use?
[08:47] <kbrooks> BFP: no, a ftp uploader
[08:47] <kbrooks> and downloader
[08:48] <kbrooks> written in ....
[08:48] <kbrooks> python!
[08:48] <dhonn> anyone set up an ltsp server with breezy yet?
[08:48] <hmrocha> claes, i have a machine exporting a lot of accounts for students working in projects
[08:48] <SupIAmMike> question 1. - if i do a update-rc.d local defaults 80 - should the script /etc/init.d/local be executed before or after X is started?
[08:48] <bpf> kbrooks, I want to avoid copying the files back and forth to edit them. I want to edit in place
[08:48] <lorenzod> bpf it's already "set up".
[08:48] <SupIAmMike> in debian it runs before X is started but in ubuntu it runs after - any ideas?
[08:48] <kbrooks> bpf: connect to server
[08:48] <kbrooks> use it
[08:48] <lorenzod> bpf: :help netrw
[08:48] <bpf> lorenzod, excellent, I thought it was a plugin or something
[08:48] <hmrocha> claes, that users didn't belong to the "students" group so they couldn't mount usb devices
[08:49] <lorenzod> bpf: it is, but a default one. No need to install it.
[08:49] <hmrocha> claes, i added all users to the group "students" that has the same gid as the "students" group in the local machine
[08:49] <bpf> lorenzod, can you get a directory listing or do you need to know all paths/filenames?
[08:49] <chorton> calamari: Shift - Ins and all that?
[08:49] <hmrocha> claes, but in the client, they don't belong the students group
[08:49] <calamari> chorton: yeah
[08:49] <chorton> calamari: That is the work of the devil.
[08:50] <calamari> chorton: I find them infinitely more easy to press than ctrlc and all that
[08:50] <hmrocha> claes, in the machine that is exporting the users, they do belong to the students group
[08:50] <Ofe> with what command can you see the temperature of the system in Ubuntu? In some distribution (dunno what) the command is $ sensors | grep temp ; hddtemp /dev/hda ; hddtemp /dev/hdb.
[08:50] <hmrocha> claes, weird, isn't it?
[08:50] <KasperTech> Does anyone know how I enable Direct Rendering??
[08:50] <chorton> calamari: Did you start with them?
[08:50] <calamari> chorton: of course :)
[08:50] <olicat> hi again all. i'm tryin to install ndiswrapper from sources, but each time i try modprobe, the whole system just locks up
[08:50] <CPUnerd_> if anyone used a tape driver here, usually in /dev/st0 , anyone knows if it just stopped working in 2.6.10 and hoarty ?
[08:50] <calamari> back on an xt keyboard
[08:51] <calamari> so I often have numpad issues as well hehe
[08:51] <claes> hmrocha, Do the student group have the same gid on all machines? And there are no users with the same uid on the local machines as in NIS?
[08:51] <olicat> any ideas how to fix that?
[08:51] <yosel> hi, someboy could helpme?
[08:51] <hmrocha> claes, yes, students has gid 1000 in all machines
[08:52] <SupIAmMike> I heard a new version of Ubuntu was coming out soon - where can I find a package list for the release (or preview)
[08:52] <hmrocha> claes, the second part, i don't know, i'll look into that
[08:52] <claes> hmrocha, And you want som users from the NIS server in the local "student" group.
[08:52] <nrbq> I've got a bad feeling about this
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, locally, i only have two users in the students group :(
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, admin and hal
[08:53] <claes> hmrocha, One thing I always forget is the nscd (Name Server Cache Daemon)
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, there should be a lot of users
[08:53] <nrbq> anyone available to help with a wireless problem?
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, i'm not using nscd in the client
[08:53] <HappyFool> SupIAmMike: i think the base system has a few hundred packages (i may be wrong?). you can maybe look on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <wef> where can i get totem-xine
[08:54] <claes> hmrocha, Ok. If you log in with some of the NIS users and check the groups with "id" command.
[08:54] <olicat> nobody have an idea on ndiswrapper crashing the system?
[08:54] <hmrocha> claes, it works fine, but the users doesn't belong the students group
[08:55] <HappyFool> wef: it's in the 'universe' repository
[08:55] <nrbq> I have no idea how I fixed this, but I did
[08:55] <hmrocha> claes, if i run the same id command in the NIS server, it belongs to the students group
[08:55] <rob_p> SupIAmMike:  For your first question... maybe because gdm has a starting priority of 13 (at least on mine), while your example of local has a starting priority of 80.  The lower the number, the higher the starting priority.
[08:55] <nrbq> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
[08:55] <nrbq> :)
[08:55] <vanguardist> anyone having problems with 3d acceleration?
[08:55] <nrbq> Ok, I'm on my way
[08:55] <nrbq> peace to all
[08:55] <vanguardist> glxinfo
[08:55] <vanguardist> name of display: :0.0
[08:55] <vanguardist> Illegal instruction
[08:55] <yosel> hey i got a problem with a fx5600 video card
[08:55] <vanguardist> I get the same error on every 3d program I try
[08:55] <yosel> someone colud help me?
[08:55] <vanguardist> this started after I moved to breezy from hoary
[08:56] <vanguardist> iirc
[08:56] <claes> hmrocha, And the NIS server is a client to itself or is it using the files in /etc/ ?
[08:56] <hmrocha> claes, i ran ypinit -m to refresh the exported user/group
[08:56] <hmrocha> claes, it's only a server, all users are in /etc/passwd
[08:56] <andril> has anyone used Aegis? do you have any pro's or cons?
[08:56] <SupIAmMike> rob_p - thanks
[08:57] <rob_p> SupIAmMike:  No prob.  Hope that helped.
[08:57] <LaserLine> Hello all, Where can I find the list of Installed packages after a clean ubuntu Installation ?
[08:57] <hmrocha> claes, this is really bad for me :(
[08:57] <claes> hmrocha,  Then when you run id on the server NIS isn't used. Then it uses /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[08:57] <brrrt> wohooo :D just compiled alltray for my amd64 and it works :D thanks alot for your help!
[08:57] <SupIAmMike> HappyFool, how do i know what version of the ipw2200 driver will come on the next version? it wasnt in the network packages
[08:57] <hmrocha> claes, true
[08:58] <brrrt> is there an easy way to make a .deb from my selfcompiled alltray ?
[08:58] <HappyFool> SupIAmMike: is that part of the linux kernel? if so, i would guess it corresponds to the linux kernel version. if not, i don't know
[08:58] <LaserLine> Anyone ?
[08:58] <hmrocha> claes, i really need this users to mount usb devices and use audio devices :(
[08:58] <SupIAmMike> oh hmm i think it is now your right
[08:58] <SupIAmMike> thanks HappyFool
[08:58] <yosel> hey, why, my ubuntu crashes when it wants to load gdm, it happdens when i connect my geforce fx5600
[08:59] <hmrocha> claes, a teacher needs to use audio but he can't because the users of his discipline don't belong the the students group
[08:59] <gpled> does ubuntu support amd sempron 64?
[08:59] <claes> hmrocha, Strange. You have included the NIS users in the local /etc/group file so it's a member in audio and plugdev?
[08:59] <SupIAmMike> what version of the kernel will come out in the next release? (2.6.7 looks like in the preview but i dont know if that will change)
[08:59] <HappyFool> SupIAmMike: 2.6.12, i think
[08:59] <hmrocha> claes, no, i changed udev permissions so that instead of plugdev, it uses students
[09:00] <kbrooks> SupIAmMike: i have 2.6.12
[09:00] <Cody`> can anyone give me a permissions dump of their /etc ?
[09:00] <SupIAmMike> kbrooks, are you using the preview?
[09:00] <Cody`> I screwed mine over by chowning ot a user and chmodding all to 755
[09:00] <kbrooks> SupIAmMike: rc
[09:00] <hmrocha> claes, because regular user accounts are stored in AD
[09:00] <Cody`> now I don't have sound
[09:00] <hmrocha> claes, AD == Active Directory
[09:00] <SupIAmMike> release candidate?
[09:00] <Lamego> Hello, does anyoned tried to use valgrind on Breezy ?
[09:01] <jason> hi i have a doule boot thing on my hard drive of linux and windows and i wan to know how to take linux off and just keep windows
[09:01] <kbrooks> jason: why
[09:01] <kevogod> Resistance is futile.
[09:01] <hmrocha> claes, i tried deleting the local students group, but it still doesn't work
[09:01] <claes> hmrocha, Aha. Not shure what's happened with your setup. Don't talk about AD, I work with it all days. Don't wanna hear about it now. :-)
[09:01] <jason> cause i want to put linux on my other computer and keep windows on this one
[09:01] <hmrocha> claes, my setup with AD is working very fine :)
[09:02] <bam_> just get rid of windows
[09:02] <Thuggalo-> Are the minimum system requirements anywhere? I can't find them and this live CD has been booting for almost 30 minutes
[09:02] <LaserLine> Guys, I have a question please...
[09:02] <jason> plus i dont have enogh space to hold 2 os on this hd
[09:02] <kbrooks> bam_: stop it
[09:02] <jason> i need more space for my media
[09:02] <bam_> buy 2nd hdd?
[09:02] <hmrocha> claes, but the user ip001 in the nis server belongs to the ip group
[09:02] <DAC1138> LaserLine, it helps to ask the question first
[09:02] <Lamego> jason, look fo help on a windows related chan "how to restore the MBR"
[09:02] <hmrocha> claes, i used usermod -G students ip001
[09:02] <LasseL> jason, I think I would delete the linux partition from windows and run fdisk /mbr to restore the windows boot loader ... ?
[09:02] <hmrocha> claes, but this is not reflected in the nis client
[09:02] <LaserLine> DAC1138 I asked already... :D
[09:03] <kbrooks> LaserLine: reask
[09:03] <jason> wait so what do i have to do
[09:03] <hmrocha> claes, this way, ip001 belongs to the ip and students group
[09:03] <jason> do it on widnows
[09:03] <bam_> yes
[09:03] <jason> cayuse i cant load from the cd the oc selecter thing comes up
[09:03] <bam_> windowsxp recovery console
[09:03] <LaserLine> Where can I find a list of the packages installed by ubuntu after a clean installation ? (I can't find it)
[09:03] <jason> os*
[09:03] <dhonn> jason after you restor the mbr, i would use knoppix to resize the ntfs partition
[09:03] <claes> hmrocha, But not with other users?
[09:03] <Thuggalo-> Are the minimum system requirements anywhere? I can't find them and this live CD has been booting for almost 30 minutes
[09:03] <HappyFool> LaserLine: 'dpkg -l' ?
[09:03] <hmrocha> claes, yes, i did that to all users (with a script)
[09:04] <jason> alright il figure it out thanks
[09:04] <HappyFool> LaserLine: or maybe 'dpkg -l|grep ^ii'
[09:04] <gpled> where can i find a list of cpu's that ubuntu supports?
[09:04] <bam_> or just resize with partition majick in windows after the mbr fix
[09:04] <albacker> guys, i installed breezy on my computer.. and it didnt ask for root password during the installation. so when i boot into ubuntu i put my username and password [the user one..]  i try to be root by doing su, and put 'root' [claiming to be the default user password]  but nothing happens, I mean that the password is invalid. I do sudo su, but it still asks for password. what can i do ?
[09:04] <DAC1138> gpled, google
[09:04] <claes> hmrocha, If you manually try with another user?
[09:04] <kbrooks> gpled: pc, ppc, and x64
[09:04] <DAC1138> gpled, google.com/linux maybe
[09:04] <SupIAmMike> how do i find out what version of ipw2200 comes in the kernel - #ipw2100 just told me vanilla 2.6.12 does not contain kernel
[09:04] <LaserLine> HappyFool I mean before installing... Isn't it documented in the Wiki ? (I can't find it, I'm sure I saw it once...)
[09:04] <hmrocha> claes, something like $ for i in $(cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $1}'); do usermod -G students $i; done
[09:04] <HappyFool> LaserLine: i don't know where you'd find such a list, sorry
[09:05] <bpf> albacker, using sudo you would enter your own password
[09:05] <hmrocha> claes, this one-liner worked fine
[09:05] <LaserLine> HappyFool Like in Distrowatch, where you can see the versions of each component...
[09:05] <bpf> albacker, so there is no need to ever know the root passwd
[09:05] <HappyFool> !tell albacker about sudo
[09:05] <claes> hmrocha, But that reads /etc/passwd not NIS.
[09:05] <albacker> bpf, i need root privileges..
[09:05] <bpf> albacker, i know, use sudo
[09:05] <HappyFool> albacker: read that wiki page; will tell you how to get root
[09:05] <hmrocha> claes, yes, but i do ypinit -m after that
[09:05] <LasseL> albacker, sudo -s
[09:06] <hmrocha> claes, this should work right?
[09:06] <LaserLine> Anyone else ?
[09:06] <albacker> aha ok thanks bpf, LaserLine, HappyFool
[09:06] <bpf> is the '-s' necessary?
[09:06] <claes> hmrocha, Does cat /etc/passwd shows you any NIS users?
[09:06] <hmrocha> claes, yes, all of them
[09:06] <LaserLine> albacker whayt ?
[09:06] <gpled> found it: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[09:06] <hmrocha> claes, show all users that are used in the ubuntu clients
[09:07] <claes> hmrocha, You are running the command on the NIS Server?
[09:07] <hmrocha> claes, but they are exported belonging only the the default group, not with the students group i added too
[09:07] <hmrocha> claes, yes, "ypinit -m" on the server
[09:08] <LaserLine> gpled thanks, that's what I was looking for... :D
[09:08] <hmrocha> claes, what command do you use to "refresh" the exported users?
[09:08] <albacker> bpf, so i do sudo somecommand, and it acts like ive done it from a root terminal. what if i want to add the user 'root' with all the privileges ? can that be done !?
[09:08] <claes> hmrocha, You should add the users in the student group localy on the ubuntu clients. If there is a student group there allready.
[09:09] <hmrocha> claes, yes, there is, but that would be a great hack
[09:09] <hmrocha> claes, because everything gets deleted when the user shuts down the computer
[09:09] <LaserLine> Is there a possibility to restart ESD after killing it ? Sometimes, my laptop (ubuntu 5.04) hangs, and I have to kill esd from TTY2, but I can't get it to restart unless restarting the whole system. It's an 440MX Mobo from Intel with onboard sound ??
[09:09] <hmrocha> claes, we use a deploying system that upload the OS chosen by the user to the client computer
[09:10] <bpf> albacker, I don't think you understand that ubuntu tries to shield you from ever needing or using the root account directly. you can accomplish everything you need with sudo
[09:10] <claes> hmrocha, I think  you have to do that. Linux reads the file /etc/group up and down. When it comes to the end it starts with NIS
[09:10] <bpf> albacker, what are you trying to do anyway?
[09:10] <hmrocha> claes, hmm...so i delete the local students account, it should use only the NIS group
[09:11] <albacker> bpf i want to do, sudo su. and i have  a root terminal. so i dont need to put sudo before all commands in the terminal/
[09:11] <hmrocha> claes, not account, group
[09:11] <abdul----> how can i download Totem plugins for Ubntu
[09:11] <hmrocha> claes, i tried deleting the local students account but it doesn't work
[09:11] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try again
[09:11] <LaserLine> Anyone knows how to help my issue ?
[09:11] <bpf> albacker, yes, but why?
[09:11] <_jason>  LaserLine: esd?
[09:12] <claes> hmrocha, Yes it should. Check the owner of the dev files so it have the same gid.
[09:12] <meuserj|work> LaserLine, "esd &"
[09:12] <LaserLine> _jason yeah... how can I restart it after killing it, more over, why does esd hang my system ?
[09:12] <_jason> LaserLine:  you can do: <alt> + f2 and then type "esd"
[09:12] <albacker> bpf, it helps me not to write sudo before command.
[09:12] <LaserLine> _jaston I get skwirking sound from speakers...
[09:12] <LaserLine> _jason and then no sound
[09:12] <bpf> albacker, i don't know what to tell you. does sudo su work? you would still type your own password
[09:12] <claes> hmrocha, Users need to log out to update it group membership. (or use $ su - user)
[09:13] <LaserLine> I have to mention, I followed the HOWTO on enabling ALSA via GNOME (forgot the link)
[09:13] <albacker> bpf, ok, ill try. im not under linux now.
[09:13] <albacker> ill go there ..
[09:13] <albacker> thanks another time ; bpf .. cya ;)
[09:13] <hmrocha> claes, strange, i deleted the local group, i do "getent group students" but it shows nothing
[09:13] <LaserLine> Any Idea ?
[09:14] <hmrocha> claes, what is the maximum number of users that can belong to a group?
[09:14] <hmrocha> claes, maybe that's the problem
[09:14] <IanLiu> hello
[09:14] <_jason> LaserLine:  to reenable it you can use the alt+f2 and then esd.  But I don't know too much more about it.  Maybe someone else can help you.
[09:14] <LaserLine> _jason thanks for the effort....
[09:14] <IanLiu> Hi, can i ask questions about Ubuntu here?
[09:15] <hmrocha> claes, something is wrong in the nis server
[09:15] <Answer> LaserLine: skwirking?  maybe u have interfernce or wiring issues
[09:15] <IanLiu> I tryed to instal ubuntu here but it didnt work... Im running by the CD
[09:15] <LaserLine> Answer don't think so, because after restarting the system - all is good.
[09:16] <meuserj|work> IanLiu, where did it fail?
[09:16] <IanLiu> I couldnt chose the particion
[09:16] <claes> hmrocha, Not sure how many users is the max in a group.
[09:16] <Answer> LaserLine: do you have the other stuff muted in alsamixer?  line-in or microphone stuff could cause that
[09:16] <LaserLine> Answer Sometimes while using the laptop I here this small beep, and then CPU goes 100%, and I have to kill ESD
[09:16] <IanLiu> i habe a C: with 30 GB and a D: with 10gb
[09:16] <IanLiu> i wanted to instal ubunto in D:
[09:16] <saki> hi all
[09:17] <Answer> LaserLine: now that sounds like IRQ conflicts
[09:17] <saki> is this a tecxhnical server chat?
[09:17] <LaserLine> Answer What should I use ? Alsa or ESD  ( I followed the HOTTO on gnome and alsa for hoary)
[09:17] <Ofe> with what command can you see the temperature of the system in Ubuntu? In some distribution (dunno what) the command is $ sensors | grep temp ; hddtemp /dev/hda ; hddtemp /dev/hdb. what's the equvalent in Ubuntu? :)
[09:17] <Answer> LaserLine: If ESD is hanging, maybe you could try Alsa...  I have had issues with both on laptops so I cant recommend.
[09:17] <meuserj|work> IanLiu, well, if you have a windows partition there, you have to reformat it to be a linux partition.. easiest way is to just delete the partition and tell the installer to create partitions in the unused space
[09:18] <LaserLine> Answer Even using ALSA, the ESD process is always there - it's gnomes....
[09:18] <HappyFool> Ofe: maybe the stuff in the lm-sensors package?
[09:18] <IanLiu> hmm, its because i wanted to have a Windows partiton and a Linux one...
[09:18] <hmrocha> claes, :(
[09:18] <meuserj|work> LaserLine, you can turn it off.. by disabling system sounds
[09:19] <hmrocha> claes, i don't know what to do
[09:19] <LaserLine> Answer If I un-check the Load Sound server at startup, ESD won't start...
[09:19] <LaserLine> Answer (I think, the laptop is not near me now...)
[09:19] <Ofe> happyfool: there's a package like that? Well, I'll do some research then. thanks.
[09:19] <tklich> anybody familiar with borne shell scripts?
[09:19] <LaserLine> Answer System sound is already off...
[09:20] <Ofe> HappyFool: does lm-sensors package come with default installation or do I have to install it separately?
[09:20] <tklich> how do i test if a parameter passed into a script is numeric?
[09:20] <DAC1138> neighborlee, boo
[09:20] <HappyFool> Ofe: it's not installed on my system; i don't think it's installed by default
[09:20] <neighborlee> DAC1138, LOL
[09:20] <erisco> hello, if anyone plays the linux game wesnoth, how do you use special abilities? it says to just click on the name of the ability... but that isn't working. i am trying to get the shaman to heal one of my units. help.
[09:20] <hmrocha> claes, thanks very much for the help
[09:20] <LaserLine> Answer, Well I hope Breezy will fix that up - I intend to wipe the laptop and reinstall... (but now with out to many crap) so next time I won't have to do that, except "distro upgrade"
[09:20] <neighborlee> DAC1138, well well well , look who we have here
[09:21] <erisco> not really a technical ubuntu question, but hey what the heck =p
[09:21] <neighborlee> DAC1138, ;-))
[09:21] <Ofe> synaptic it is then. thanks HappyFool.
[09:21] <Reaff> Anyone know how to login as root in ubuntu?
[09:21] <LaserLine> Answer Thanks for the help :-)
[09:21] <neighborlee> Reaff, yes
[09:21] <Reaff> How?
[09:21] <neighborlee> Reaff, dont
[09:21] <DAC1138> neighborlee, i log in as root
[09:21] <meuserj|work> tklich, "man test"
[09:21] <erisco> reaff, there is no root
[09:21] <hmrocha> claes, i'll have to write this group file in the local ubuntu image
[09:21] <DAC1138> neighborlee, i grew on linux using root instead of sudo
[09:21] <erisco> unless you want to change what ubuntu was designed for
[09:21] <Reaff> how to remove that thingy? i need root
[09:21] <neighborlee> Reaff, you can if you really want to but its risky so I figure its not worth it..why do you want to login as root anyway
[09:21] <erisco> use sudo
[09:21] <HappyFool> !tell Reaff about root
[09:22] <erisco> or the root terminal
[09:22] <kahuna_> Hi. Can anyone reccomend a good affordable USB wireless adapter.
[09:22] <neighborlee> Reaff, remove that thingee ?
[09:22] <claes> hmrocha, Well I couldn't help you but I tried anyway.
[09:22] <Reaff> neighborlee, becouse i need root.. and dont like sudo
[09:22] <Reaff> HappyFool,  thnx :)
[09:22] <DAC1138> Reaff, if you need root, like i do, do "sudo passwd"
[09:22] <erg> hey, i let synaptic upgrade all packages and now i'm getting bus errors with my ubuntu live 5.10 pre amd64 system.
[09:22] <neighborlee> Reaff, well its easy to become root...just so you 'realize' it is NOT safe
[09:23] <DAC1138> Reaff, itll ask for a new root password. enter the new passwords and then try to login via "su"
[09:23] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try to change the default account of a project account to students, to see if it's exported well
[09:23] <claes> hmrocha, That should also work.
[09:23] <erg> i believe it's a library problem, is there a quick fix?
[09:24] <kahuna_> sudo is just as unsafe as su in the hands of an uneducated user.
[09:24] <Reaff> neighborlee,  well i like root.. dont like sudo..
[09:24] <Reaff> DAC1138, thnx.. but has already changed ;)
[09:24] <kahuna_> Reaff: sudo passwd root
[09:24] <kahuna_> then you can su to root
[09:24] <Reaff> sudo -i
[09:24] <Reaff> then si
[09:24] <Reaff> su
[09:25] <ompaul> Reaff, sudo command try it you like it - do it for a week and you will not look back - its a 24 year old command have some respect  :)
[09:25] <Reaff> ompaul,  i like root. dont wanna learn a new 1 :P
[09:25] <neighborlee> Reaff, well its just the idea that leaving yourself in 'root' is not tacticly a wise idea thats all ;-)
[09:26] <hmrocha> claes, yup, it worked :)
[09:26] <ompaul> Reaff, then you are running some mutant of Ubuntu not ubuntu
[09:26] <kahuna_> It's not wise, but people are free to make their own mistakes.
[09:26] <neighborlee> Reaff, this is linux...your free to do what you wish...just know the pros and cons and be happy ;-)
[09:26] <claes> hmrocha, Great!
[09:26] <hmrocha> claes, maybe the problem in really in the students group that has too much users
[09:26] <Reaff> ompaul,  no im running ubuntu
[09:26] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try mounting a cdrom with this user
[09:26] <kahuna_> we said just about the same thing neighborlee
[09:26] <claes> hmrocha, How many users is it?
[09:26] <Reaff> well thnx ppl :)
[09:26] <avalost> what's the easiest way to increase scrollback in all terminals?
[09:26] <Reaff> and im off
[09:27] <thompa> hey anybody:
[09:27] <kahuna_> avalost: use screen.
[09:27] <neighborlee> kahuna_, oh you did ?..well shiver me timbers
[09:27] <thompa> how can i delete massive files all in one directory
[09:27] <kahuna_> you get 1024k of scrollback
[09:27] <Yetr2> avalost, | less
[09:27] <HappyFool> avalost: edit -> current profile -> scrolling
[09:27] <hmrocha> claes, it worked, i suppose it should with a usb device too
[09:27] <avalost> i'd rather have scrollback than using screen
[09:28] <avalost> and my .bash_profile does not have anything with scrolling in it
[09:28] <thompa> i need to delete a directory and all its files
[09:28] <hmrocha> claes, more or less 1185 users
[09:28] <thompa> or at least the files in it
[09:28] <avalost> thompa, rm -rf dire/
[09:28] <thompa> rm -rf *.mess
[09:28] <thompa>   gives me
[09:28] <thompa> Argument list too long
[09:29] <avalost> thompa, rm the dir
[09:29] <thompa> rmdir -rf ?
[09:29] <hmrocha> claes, i could search nis source code to see the maximum number of users in a group
[09:29] <kahuna_> just rm -rf <dir>
[09:29] <avalost> HappyFool, i'm assuming you mean .bash_profile
[09:29] <claes> hmrocha, Haven't used NIS with that many users. So no ide.
[09:29] <avalost> correct?
[09:29] <HappyFool> maybe   find -iname '*.mess' -exec rm '{}' ';'    if you want to erase specific files only
[09:30] <Mustard5> what are the -rf flags doing in that command?
[09:30] <HappyFool> avalost: no, sorry, i thought you meant gnome-terminal; if you mean text consoles (alt-f1 etc.) i don't know
[09:30] <Mustard5> r is recursive?
[09:30] <kahuna_> or even for i in *.mess;do rm $i; done
[09:30] <avalost> aterm, specifically
[09:30] <Mustard5> f is?
[09:30] <avalost> is typically what I use
[09:30] <rob_p> Mustard5:  r=recursive, f=force
[09:30] <hmrocha> claes, i'll do one thing to test... now psd002 belongs to the group students
[09:30] <kahuna_> actually I think rm "$i" would work better i nthat little script.
[09:30] <hmrocha> claes, i'll use usermod to add this user to group psd
[09:30] <HappyFool> avalost: 'man aterm', i guess; i don't have aterm installed
[09:30] <ompaul> thompa du -h *.mess
[09:30] <Mustard5> k thanks rob^ p
[09:30] <hmrocha> claes, and export the info to see if it works
[09:31] <thompa> ok thanks
[09:31] <thompa> whats du
[09:31] <kahuna_> disk usage
[09:31] <ompaul> thompa sorry >> ls *.mess  | wc << what does that say
[09:31] <HappyFool> if the command-line is too long for rm, won't it be too long for the others too?
[09:31] <kahuna_> ompaul: why?
[09:31] <kahuna_> You're just gonna make his machine slow down doing that
[09:32] <thompa> its doing something
[09:32] <kahuna_> Who cares how many lines?
[09:32] <hmrocha> YEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:32] <claes> hmrocha, Great!
[09:32] <thompa>  rm -rf "dir"
[09:32] <ompaul> kahuna_, well it tells us how many lines and if over 2k then we can tackle it other ways :)
[09:32] <thompa> thanks
[09:32] <hmrocha> claes, thanks very very very much for the help
[09:32] <thompa> maybe its locked up
[09:32] <Mustard5> all gone now thompa ?
[09:33] <kahuna_> true that. But the find and shell script suggestions would work regardless.
[09:33] <Mustard5> what is the name of the directory?
[09:33] <claes> hmrocha, Now you can sleep well tonight. :-)
[09:33] <hmrocha> claes, now psd002 belongs to user students and also belongs to users students and psd (students is repeated)
[09:33] <thompa> nope
[09:33] <hmrocha> claes, oh yeah :)
[09:33] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try to work with this a little more :)
[09:33] <Mustard5> do you have permission to remove it?
[09:33] <thompa> i think there are maybe 900,000 files
[09:34] <thompa> yes of course
[09:34] <ompaul> thompa, ahhh what kind of data is in there?
[09:34] <Mustard5> I mean file permissions, thompa, sorry :D
[09:34] <thompa> spam
[09:34] <mc124> hey there, just installed ubuntu and it seems very nice. I'm completly new to linux so i have a question.. I installed ubuntu on the same hdd as my windows, but i cant seem to find my windows files. They are there but i cant find em from my ubuntu installation. Why is this?
[09:34] <thompa> chinese spam attack
[09:35] <HappyFool> mc124: linux and windows use different file systems
[09:35] <thompa> im going to try it again
[09:35] <Mustard5> mc124 you will probably need to mount your windows partition
[09:35] <HappyFool> mc124: you can read, but not write, files from your windows system
[09:35] <mc124> k, so as an example: i cant listen to my mp3s that i download using my windows?
[09:36] <HappyFool> !tell mc124 about windowsdrives
[09:36] <othernoob> HappyFool: forgetting fat32?
[09:36] <Thirsteh> What is the dummy package called that will install all of KDE  (from normal Ubuntu) - kde-desktop?
[09:36] <HappyFool> othernoob: fair enough
[09:36] <hmrocha> claes, if the default group is not students, it doesn't work :)
[09:36] <rob_p> thompa:  Feed that into a bayesian filter (to train it) and you'd have one hell of a spamfilter!
[09:36] <othernoob> HappyFool: albeit you're right, you can't write from ;)
[09:36] <HappyFool> mc124: see the link ubotu sent to you
[09:36] <hmrocha> claes, i'll change de default group for everyone, but also add them to the group they should belong too :)
[09:36] <hmrocha> claes, i'm very happy :)
[09:36] <rj_> can someone help with a small problem with removing postfix
[09:36] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, ? ;)
[09:36] <rj_> Removing postfix ...
[09:36] <rj_>  * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent...
[09:36] <rj_>  *stfix/postfix-script: fatal: the Postfix mail system is not running    [fail]
[09:36] <rj_> dpkg: error processing postfix (--remove):
[09:36] <rj_>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:37] <rj_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:37] <rj_>  postfix
[09:37] <Subliminal> how do i install a .deb archive
[09:37] <rj_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:37] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc #
[09:37] <rj_> dpkg -i file.deb
[09:37] <Thirsteh> Subliminal, dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
[09:37] <mc124> k thanx HappyFool and ubotu . will gove it a try
[09:37] <thompa> how do i check directory size again?
[09:37] <HappyFool> rj_: don't paste here please
[09:37] <Subliminal> thx
[09:37] <rj_> du -hs .
[09:37] <damg> aah, my notebook hung and after a reboot its lan module won't load (sk98lin). dmesg tells internal software issue. lspci detects the network card properly, dhclient eth0 won't work anymore. now eth0 is my wireless card instead of the original one
[09:37] <othernoob> rj_: ever wondered what a pastebin is for?
[09:37] <rj_> sorry :(
[09:37] <rj_> i didnt mean to post that much
[09:37] <claes> hmrocha, Could be that the additional group list can't have multiple groups with the same name.
[09:38] <hmrocha> claes,  what?
[09:38] <damg> any idea?
[09:38] <hmrocha> claes, i didn't understand that, sorry
[09:38] <claes> hmrocha, Well my english isn't that great.
[09:38] <RIOT|Marauder> hi, i've just installed ubuntu for the first time. the installation tell me to create an user, now how can i know if this user have the same rights of root user?
[09:38] <hmrocha> claes, mine is not great either :)
[09:39] <rj_> I'am having a problem removing postfix, the error message is here http://pastebin.com/386467 if anyone could help it would be much appricated :)
[09:39] <nalioth> RIOT|Marauder: system > admin > users and groups
[09:39] <kenneth> hi
[09:39] <seth_k|lappy> rj_, sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start
[09:39] <seth_k|lappy> rj_, then try removing again
[09:39] <thompa> Mustard5: how do i check the directory size again in bash?
[09:39] <claes> hmrocha, You now what I mean with additional group list?
[09:39] <antix> is LVM recommended?
[09:39] <thompa> if i ls i may be here too long
[09:40] <hmrocha> claes, yes, the other groups other than the default
[09:40] <Mustard5> thompa, I'm not sure
[09:40] <damg> how can i check if my network card has driver or hardware problems?
[09:40] <tschweg> hi
[09:40] <rj_> seth_k|lappy: worked like a charm, thank you :)
[09:40] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try to change all users with a one liner
[09:40] <claes> hmrocha, Yes. And I think that you can't have two groups with the same name in that list.
[09:40] <seth_k|lappy> cheers rj_
[09:40] <tschweg> anyone mind to help me with a monitor /screen resolution problem?
[09:40] <hmrocha> claes, i don't have that
[09:40] <holden> It's working, damg, nothing's the matter with it
[09:41] <holden> :)
[09:41] <ShereKhan> I have Ubuntu and Windows XP on a laptop. I use GRUB to select between the two. But whenever I update Ubuntu and there is an update to the kernel or bootloader or whatever, my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets overridden, and Windows XP is kicked out of the bootloader. Is there any way to circumvent this? Like an include or override for menu.lst or something?
[09:41] <Thirsteh> What is the dummy package called that will install all of KDE  (from normal Ubuntu) - kde-desktop?
[09:41] <kenneth> when i installed ubuntu to my sata drive it put the boot selector on my ata drive, i want to reformat that ata drive, how do i put the boot info on my sata drive without harming the instalation already on it?
[09:41] <damg> holden, until that hang LAN worked (i had to manually dhclient eth0), now I can't access eth0 - it is the wireless card and no other devices in the network configuration
[09:41] <_jason> thompa:  du -h FOLDER
[09:41] <claes> hmrocha, Not now. But wasn't it like that before? Two groups with the name students.
[09:42] <tschweg> I just switched from a 17" Nokia monitor to a 21" Eizo and somehow, i can't reset the resolution correctly
[09:42] <thompa> does rm -rf "dir" go without prompts?
[09:42] <thompa> _jason: thanks
[09:42] <decklin> ShereKhan: just put it after the automatically generated stuff. there are comments showing where that is
[09:42] <hmrocha> claes, i have the local group students now :)
[09:42] <thompa> im a little tired
[09:42] <_jason> thompa:  I believe rm -rf will got without prompts
[09:42] <claes> hmrocha, And the primary group student?
[09:42] <hmrocha> claes, the problem is that the students group in the nis server is not being exported
[09:43] <hmrocha> claes, so i use the local group
[09:43] <damg> holden: $lspci -> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvel Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 4351 (rev 10)
[09:43] <Mustard5> type info rm , thompa
[09:43] <hmrocha> claes, maybe this is a hack, but it works :)
[09:43] <nalioth> Thirsteh: "kubuntu-desktop"
[09:43] <damg> holden, and on rmmod sk98lin (which is its driver) i get either that the device is busy or segmentation fault
[09:43] <hmrocha> i'll now try to change the 4th field of the passwd file to 1000
[09:43] <claes> hmrocha, That's the main thing. :-)
[09:43] <tschweg> i played around with my xorg.conf file, but i can't set the refreshrate correctly. anyway, if someone has time, take a look at my xorg.conf file and tell me what's wrong. http://pastebin.com/386472
[09:44] <ShereKhan> decklin: OK, I'll try that. tnx
[09:44] <thompa> _jason: sorry is that du -h "directory name"
[09:44] <_jason> thompa:  yes
[09:44] <thompa> its hung up
[09:44] <thompa> or counting
[09:44] <qatsi> hello all!....anyone knows when is the 5.1 full release is ?
[09:44] <ompaul> thompa find . -exec rm {} \; <<<<<<<<< from within the directory
[09:44] <lorenzod> qatsi: you mean 5.10?
[09:45] <hmrocha> claes, i don't know how to change this quickly
[09:45] <lorenzod> Well, its going to be release Oct. 13.
[09:45] <damg> how can I actually scan for network cards
[09:45] <tschweg> qatsi, somewhen this month ;)
[09:45] <qatsi> lorenzod isnt that the same ?
[09:45] <damg> ?
[09:45] <weiers> Hi, I mounted one of my VAT32 drives in fstab, and I can read all the data, but it is only read-only. How can I change the setting that I can access any data on the drive and write to the drive in any way that I want to?  The entry in my /etc/fstab looks like this:  /dev/hda6	/wcwin		vfat	defaults	0	0
[09:45] <_jason> thompa:  yeah that will give you all subdirectories as well... there may be an option to not do that check, man du
[09:45] <thompa> thanks
[09:45] <ompaul> thompa, the machine will be busy for a bit
[09:45] <qatsi> orenzod: uhmm, thanx :D
[09:45] <lorenzod> qatsi: 5.10 == 2005.Oct
[09:45] <Yetr2> weiers, in the fstab entry, remove the 'ro' from the options
[09:46] <qatsi> orenzod: ohh,i see :p date there :) thanx a lot
[09:46] <antix> do you ppl use LVM on your disks?
[09:46] <tschweg> lorenzod, 13th already? sw33t, can't wait for it
[09:46] <Yetr2> antix, you wish to learn how to use LVM?
[09:46] <lorenzod> tschweg: +- a day or two of course :-)
[09:46] <olicat> hi all. i'm tryin to install ndiswrapper, but getting nowhere fast. i'm running the latest breezy smp kernel, when i run the modprobe command, the system fans speed up and the keyboard becomes inactive.
[09:47] <claes> hmrocha, I'm no good scripter. Substitute in vim perhaps.    :%s/old/new/g
[09:47] <olicat> then i have to switch the machine off
[09:47] <thompa> ompaul: thanks I think rm -rf wont prompt
[09:47] <antix> Yetr2, no I use it but I got some trouble with a new installation and don't know if LVM is causing it...
[09:47] <damg> can anyone please help me to setup network please? the wizard won't work (everything greyed out)
[09:47] <tschweg> lorenzod, of course :)
[09:47] <Mustard5> thompa does rm have an -i switch that allows interactive?
[09:47] <hmrocha> claes, yes, i know that :)
[09:48] <Yetr2> antix, read the /var/log/messages ...
[09:48] <antix> Yetr2, how do you do fsck on a LVM partition?
[09:48] <hmrocha> claes, but i want to replace only the 4th field of passwd
[09:48] <olicat> no ideas anyone?
[09:48] <weiers> Yetr2  ... Just to clarify... I do not see any 'ro' - except under the entry for dev hda1, which is an ext3 partition?
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> What does it mean if I get an error that looks like "Segmentation faultsts... 69%" while using apt-get?
[09:48] <hmrocha> claes, i could store "awk -F: '{print $4}'" in a variable and use sed to replace that value in the line maybe
[09:49] <thompa> Mustard5: yes . i just want to start removal so i can go eat
[09:49] <Yetr2> antix, the same way you would normally fsck a partition. run `vgscan` first to detect the LVM things
[09:49] <joe_alf> weiers, change defaults to user
[09:49] <Mustard5> :)
[09:49] <rob_p> thompa:  Try, "du -c /path/to/dir | grep total" and it should print the total size of all files within that directory.
[09:49] <thompa> cool
[09:49] <Yetr2> antix, usually it'll be /dev/(volumegroupname)/logicalvolumename/
[09:49] <joe_alf> weiers, then unmount and mount -a
[09:50] <claes> hmrocha, Should work. But as I said I'm no good at scripting.
[09:50] <Yetr2> weiers, is this a thumb drive or some sort or portable storage device?
[09:50] <antix> Yetr2, I tried fsck /dev/hda3 which is my LVM vol but that wasn't a reiserfs partition it said.. aha ok thanks I'll try that instead :)
[09:50] <hmrocha> claes, ok, thanks anyway :)
[09:51] <antix> Yetr2, but LVMs are not more sensitive than normal partitions in your opinion?
[09:51] <Yetr2> antix, /dev/hda3 is a physical volume of your LVM group
[09:51] <avalost> !e17
[09:51] <ubotu> e17 is probably the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin
[09:51] <antix> Yetr2, and that shouldn't work right
[09:52] <Yetr2> antix, LVM makes managing mutiple disks on one system fairly easy..