[12:39] <svanderv> could any one tell me about remote x display kubuntu to ubuntu server
[12:39] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: oop? Why am I having deja `vu?
[12:39] <xevious> alright. new hilarious screenshot: http://mingus.shacknet.nu/~matt/screenshot2.png
[12:40] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: OK, that did the trick.
[12:40] <Linux_Galore> svanderv: the easy way to do it is to ssh login to the remote machine and run ther app you want
[12:40] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: cool
[12:40] <BigDaddy> xevious: is that a display problem or are you doing that on purpose? It makes me nauseous with vertigo
[12:41] <Josie> No way dude. That's like using a framebuffer mirror, it just keeps going and going.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: I always mess up like that :)
[12:41] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: who is jucato? That name sounds familiar? Is he a regular here?
[12:41] <svanderv> you mean with ssh -X
[12:41] <Linux_Galore> svanderv: dont even need that
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: yeah... big time regular..
[12:42] <svanderv> do you need any x running on the server
[12:42] <BigDaddy> I must have got some help from him before then
[12:42] <xevious> BigDaddy: i ran krdc (remote desktop) and connected to localhost (i run a vnc server for when i'm at friends' houses), then minimized my irc window and took a screenshot really quick, so it caught the irc window falling into the void in the middle
[12:42] <xevious> i think i crashed my vnc server
[12:42] <Linux_Galore> svanderv: yes, if you dont then you use the -X option
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: yup :)
[12:42] <Hamra> wow dude, nice screen!
[12:42] <xevious> thx :D
[12:42] <BigDaddy> OK, That was my only question. I am going to get back to my tinkering. Thanks again.
[12:42] <svanderv> ok bu thave always the can not open display stuuf
[12:44] <Josie> xevious, that was very clever =}
[12:45] <Josie> Most useful page for my wireless usb stuff, ever: http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html
[12:45] <xevious> Josie: here's my old windows system, with a remote X session running on it. i used to use two computers at once: http://mingus.shacknet.nu/~matt/screenshot.jpg
[12:46] <svanderv> ok thx guy's and regards
[12:46] <Josie> Haha. that's awesome.
[12:46] <Josie> I've never bothered to use remote X sessions from windows.
[12:46] <Josie> How's it done?
[12:47] <NightBird> cygwin has an x server you can install for windows
[12:47] <xevious> precisely.
[12:47] <NightBird> then set up putty to forward X requests, ssh into the linux box, and start linux gui programs
[12:47] <Josie> Sweet. I've never bothered to install cygwin.
[12:48] <NightBird> (putty, or whatever ssh client you're using on the windows box)
[12:48] <Josie> I do devel so I usually just use stuff like msys.
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> svanderv: sorry wrong you will need a x server running otherwise you dont have X11
[12:48] <Josie> Ah I see.
[12:48] <Josie> Not to complicated.
[12:48] <xevious> i just ran startkde then killed the program that drew the desktop wallpaper, so i could see windows behind the X session
[12:49] <xevious> well not just behind it. it worked seamlessly
[12:49] <xevious> by the way. the slashdot article in that screenshot is "Apple: 60GB iPod Coming?"
[12:49] <Linux_Galore> I havent run a remote x session in a long time, too much cli stuff
[12:50] <bjwebb> what really simple graphics editor is their for linux, similar to ms paint?
[12:50] <Josie> Linux_Galore: Wow I can't believe I just heard that said in a linux channel.
[12:50] <Powerking89670> Hello All. I have been having some trouble with my Login screen (the fact that it never appears is a problem), and I've booted into my recovery console, logged in as root and started my xserver, I've started gdm, and made the proper changes, is there any way to be 100% certain that when I reboot that I will get a login screen?
[12:50] <Josie> bjwebb: I don't know, I think the purpose of oss is to surpass closed-sourced crap.
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> Josie: Im just noting Im very rusty on remote x sessions
[12:51] <Josie> Ha.
[12:51] <Josie> I'm pretty rusty on a lot.
[12:51] <Josie> Like... GUIs for instance.
[12:52] <bjwebb> Josie: nah but i want to resize an image to from something to 6 pixels, and i can't be bothered with the complexity of the gimp
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> Josie: I used to know how to make the default login on a machine boot up a remote xcm login etc but I have forgoten it all
[12:52] <Josie> Ha. I've forgetten a lot of tinerking stuff.
[12:52] <Josie> but that's why we're got IRC and BitchX. lol.
[12:53] <Josie> bjwebb: GIMP isn't that complicated, just a little stubborn. You could always use ImageMagick, lol.
[12:53] <Josie> That was a joke by the way, don't go and apt-get image magick.
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> there is a KDE add on that allows you to eight click o a image file and a resize option appears, you can resize without opening the image itself
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> right*
[12:54] <bjwebb> ive used gimp its good, but it seems overkill for this
[12:54] <MatBoy> gimp is nice :)
[12:54] <Linux_Galore> gimp is ok but for resizing its not needed
[12:54] <Josie> Personally, I'm in love with Pidgin atm.
[12:54] <Hamra> Linux_Galore: what is this add on called?
[12:54] <MatBoy> Linux_Galore, indeed, too much for that
[12:55] <Josie> It's like someone from pimp my ride got a hold of Gaim.
[12:55] <MatBoy> btw, are there fixes for unexpected SDcard removals ?
[12:55] <Josie> It's got 32" plasmas and spinners.
[12:55] <Josie> MatBoy: Not that I know of, I usually make sure transfers are done before I pull the little bastard out.
[12:56] <MatBoy> Josie, mhh, it's happening when I read from the drive
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> ok there are two options for simple resizing, the manu method http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Photo+resize?content=6198,  and you can use SIR http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/SIR+-+Simple+Image+Resizer?content=35325
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> menu*
[12:56] <Josie> MatBoy: What do you mean?
[12:57] <yaccin> is gcc in gutsy broken?
[12:57] <MatBoy> Josie, let me show you a topic about what happens
[12:57] <Josie> k
[12:57] <Josie> yaccin:if gcc is broken you've got some SERIOUS problems.
[12:58] <yaccin> Josie: sqrt() doesnt seem to work o.O
[12:58] <MatBoy> Josie, here, check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/92091
[12:58] <Josie> C or C++?
[12:58] <MatBoy> it's happening on Feisty
[12:58] <yaccin> C
[12:58] <me_> hello everyone :)
[12:58] <Josie> yaccin: Hmm, well will it compile without that?
[12:59] <Josie> Compile and Link that is
[12:59] <yaccin> Josie: the main thing the program does depends on sqrt :P
[12:59] <yaccin> http://bennid.de/wurzel.c
[12:59] <me_> i am interested in kubuntu, especially fi anyone uses it to run blender (preferably the experimental builds)? thanks :)
[01:00] <yaccin> (remove the (double) from the sqrt()
[01:00] <Josie> MatBoy: Wow. No idea.
[01:00] <Josie> me_: Afaik, blender works on all distros
[01:00] <Josie> yaccin: give me a minute...
[01:01] <MatBoy> Josie, me neither... just only on my laptop
[01:01] <yaccin> i really need this to work for programming classes ^^
[01:01] <me_> Josie: blender needs python 2.5 (which not all distros have) and a few lib files
[01:01] <Josie> Code::Blocks takes forever on here.
[01:01] <Josie> yaccin: I feel you
[01:01] <Josie> me_: Most (well-maintained) distros will have Py2.5
[01:02] <Josie> If not there are ways to build it, unless you're a wart.
[01:02] <me_> lol
[01:02] <me_> i'm not a wart
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> me_: Ubuntu/Kubuntu are the same so there are no issues in running blender on either
[01:02] <Josie> yaccin: had no problem compiling and linking here
[01:02] <Josie> yaccin: what's the error?
[01:03] <xevious> yaccin: is this what you're getting? wurzel.c:(.text+0x6c): undefined reference to `sqrt'
[01:03] <yaccin> yes
[01:03] <yaccin> xevious:
[01:03] <me_> Linux_Galore: thanks. I tried ubuntu but it could not boot my laptop after installation (Toshiba Qosmio)
[01:03] <xevious> i'm in feisty and getting that
[01:03] <yaccin> /tmp/ccTeTami.o: In function `main':
[01:03] <yaccin> wurzel.c:(.text+0x6e): undefined reference to `sqrt'
[01:03] <yaccin> collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurck
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> me_: Try Gutsy, way better hardware support
[01:03] <Josie> MinGW and Mandrake 10.1 (Yes, I know that's old as dirt) compiles fine.
[01:03] <me_> can i already download that now?
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> me_: yep
[01:04] <me_> cool .. is it the 7.10 RC?
[01:04] <Josie> yes indeed
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> me_: yes indeed
[01:04] <Josie> yaccin: Are you sure all the std headers are there?
[01:05] <me_> i'll fetch it over night or go to Blenz later and grab it
[01:05] <yaccin> all the what?
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> me_: RC is pretty much the final product minos some later patches but you will get patches even with the final release
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> minus*
[01:05] <Josie> well.. actually wouldn't it throw a "file not found" error for the preprocessor directive #include <math.h>
[01:05] <xevious> Josie: i have stdio.h and math.h, under kubuntu feisty and it doesnt compile. i have build-essential installed too
[01:05] <me_> what other window managers besides KDE will be available with kubuntu?
[01:05] <Josie> Yaccin: It's possible you could be missing the math.h header, or it's messed up.
[01:06] <yaccin> theres a /usr/include/math.h
[01:06] <Josie> xevious, yaccin: That's freakin' strange.
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> me_: XFCE if you want to keep your ram down, distributed as Xubuntu
[01:06] <xevious> Josie: yeah. it sure is
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> anyway time to go
[01:06] <me_> ok, thanks :)
[01:06] <yaccin> so what can i do about that?
[01:08] <Josie> yaccin: you can attempt to reinstall GCC
[01:08] <xevious> yaccin: just inputs a number and outputs the square root right?
[01:08] <xevious> i dont read... german, is it?
[01:08] <yaccin> xevious: right
[01:08] <Josie> you could try
[01:09] <yaccin> Josie: sudo dpkg --reconfigure gcc?
[01:09] <Josie> double temp = sqrt(double(value);
[01:09] <Josie> yaccin: I think.   How do I change it back?
[01:12] <Hamra> joe_: go to system settings, "monitor & display"
[01:13] <yaccin> so... what now? ^^
[01:13] <yaccin> is it a broken package?
[01:14] <Josie> possibly.
[01:14] <yaccin> will there be an update?
[01:14] <Josie> Gcc doesn't update very often.
[01:14] <Josie> It's pretty freaking strange that it's not working.
[01:15] <yaccin> yes
[01:15] <Josie> Do you have a linux live cd? if so try to compile it with that.
[01:15] <yaccin> i only have gutsy live cd ^^
[01:16] <yaccin> and on a livecd i cant use kdevelop
[01:16] <anish_> need help....using ubuntu 7.04 (fiesty)... need voice chat capability on the fiesty box..
[01:16] <chris__> I can't delete files of my usb stick, can anyone help?
[01:17] <joe_> hamra, thanks, I tried changing it there but no change.
[01:17] <akrill> what do i install to control compiz plugins and such?
[01:17] <Josie> yaccin, compile from the shell.
[01:18] <yaccin> but doesnt the livecd use the same gcc that i use after installation?
[01:18] <Hamra> you need to restart X, if im not mistaken, log out, then login should solve it
[01:18] <Josie> yaccin: yes but if there's any missing/corrupted headers/libraries then you'll know because the livecd will compile and link fine.
[01:18] <joe_> hamra, I'll try it
[01:19] <chris__> my usb pen is on read only can I change this?
[01:19] <Josie> chris did you try remounting in r/w?
[01:20] <chris__> it was automaticly mounted
[01:20] <chris__> how would I do that?
[01:20] <Josie> Uh...
[01:20] <chris__> fat16 partition
[01:20] <Josie> You'll need to know the name of the device
[01:20] <Josie> If I'm not mistaken its mount -o remount,rw DEVICE PATH
[01:20] <chris__> "/dev/sdc"?
[01:20] <yaccin> Josie: sombody said i had to use gcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -O3 wurzel.c -lm -o wurzel
[01:20] <Josie> Yaccin, try it.
[01:21] <Josie> chris__: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdc
[01:21] <chris__> what is the device path?, where it is mounted or dev/sdc?
[01:21] <chris__> ok thanks
[01:21] <Josie> If it gives you an invalid mount point error
[01:21] <Hamra> weird thing with USBs here too, when i insert an NTFS USB flash stick, "Disks & Filesystems" stop working
[01:21] <Josie> add to the end of that the mount point. it shouldn't though.
[01:21] <joe_> Hamra, logged out logged back in thought it would work, but when opened back up low resolution again
[01:22] <chris__> 'can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab' , what should I do?
[01:22] <Josie> chris__: add the mount point to the end.
[01:22] <Josie> so it'll be mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdc mountpoint
[01:22] <xevious> ok
[01:22] <xevious> sqrt works
[01:23] <xevious> yaccin: your code is imperfect. hold on. i didtn really read it
[01:23] <chris__> ok thanks Josie, it work's
[01:23] <Josie> Kk
[01:23] <chris__> do I have to do that everytime I want to use it?
[01:23] <Josie> xevious: what was it?
[01:23] <xevious> Josie: i think it's references to the variables
[01:23] <yaccin> xevious: it worked (even without math.h) without any options on gcc running on windows -_-
[01:23] <joe_> Hamra, logged out logged back in thought it would work, but when opened back up low resolution again
[01:24] <Josie> chris__: No, you shouldn't have to, you can probably change the setting in your File & Disksystems manager, whatever it is.
[01:24] <xevious> and quoting
[01:24] <Josie> xevious: I was gonna go with improper makefile or something complete stupid like that.
[01:24] <Hamra> joe_: sorry
[01:24] <joe_> Hamra, res is 800*600, very annoying
[01:26] <xevious> bahh? ok this is odd
[01:26] <xevious> this is also way offtopic :D
[01:26] <Josie> Lol
[01:26] <chris__> Josie: Thanks for your help
[01:27] <Hamra> joe_: i hope this helps   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:28] <joe_> hamra: thanks but I think I just fixed it.  the resolution I tried 1st must not have been supported.
[01:28] <yaccin> xevious: now it compiles without errors, when i use all these options :D
[01:30] <Hamra> joe_: ok
[01:30] <xevious> yaccin: what options?
[01:30] <akrill> how do i manage compiz plugins and such in kubuntu?
[01:30] <yaccin> gcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -O3 wurzel.c -lm -o wurzel
[01:30] <yaccin> -lm is the important one
[01:31] <Alatius> Anyone here with experience with SCIM?
[01:32] <joe_> hamra:  would you happen to know how to get back the start menu, once again the kids seem to have deleted it.
[01:33] <xevious> yaccin: yeah. should work just with -lm
[01:33] <xevious> yaccin: i wonder why that's necessary. i mean... #include <math.h> should imply -lm
[01:34] <yaccin> yes i also thought that
[01:34] <Hamra> joe_: if you happen to see the bar but without the start menu, right click on the bar and choose "add aplet to panel",  search for "K menu" and add it
[01:35] <xevious> yaccin: i'm asking in #gcc
[01:35] <joe_> hamra, thanks, that was easy
[01:36] <Hamra> joe_:you're welcome
[01:36] <yaccin> xevious: also ask why it seems to DOES imply on windows gcc :P
[01:39] <joe_> Hamra, do you know anything about dual booting I just installed gutsy on my laptop w xp
[01:39] <yaccin> xevious: now i know why ^^
[01:40] <Josie> So it was the -lm option?
[01:40] <joe_> Hamra, I created a fat32 partition during the gutsy install.  the fat32 shows up in windows but not in ubuntu?
[01:40] <yaccin> Josie: linking against the math library AFTER compiling ^^
[01:40] <Josie> Totally should have been implied.
[01:40] <Alatius> I have an issue... If there is a process that automatically restarts if you kill it - how does that work? How can I prevent it?
[01:40] <yaccin> because the linker doesnt sees the sourcecode
[01:41] <Alatius> I mean, what is the mechanism behind it? A bit vague question maybe, but I'm a bit noobish.
[01:42] <Hamra> see "Disk & Filesystems" in system settings, and see if the partiton is enabled or have a mount point
[01:45] <JuJuBee> I have a config file in /usr/local/web/config.php and the folder /usr/local/web is owned by admin and the group is a group that www-data is a member of and it has rwx on folder web.  The webserver chokes unless the folder is owned by www-data.  Any ideas.
[01:55] <mrtimbo> when i try to enable mp3 support on amarok it freezes and dont let me do nothing, how do i fix this
[01:56] <dsmith__> how do I auto add nfs mounts like it does for usb and cdrom drives?
[01:57] <dsmith__> to the desktop
[01:57] <mrtimbo> is anyone here?
[01:59] <sub[t] rnl> dsmith__: first sudo apt-get install autofs
[01:59] <JuJuBee> dsmith_ : system settings->desktop->behavior->device icons
[02:00] <dsmith__> sub[t] rnl: thx
[02:00] <dsmith__> JuJuBee: thx
[02:00] <JuJuBee> There you can tell which device icons to mount.
[02:00] <JuJuBee> np
[02:00] <sub[t] rnl> then you'll look at your /etc/auto.home file and add the mounts there
[02:00] <joe_> hamra, do you know where to find the disks and filesystem setting on ubuntu
[02:01] <anish__> need help....using ubuntu 7.04 (fiesty)... need voice chat capability on the fiesty box..
[02:03] <dsmith__> sub[t] rnl: no auto.home in /etc
[02:03] <yaccin> anish__: what voice chat?
[02:03] <sub[t] rnl> dsmith__: did you apt-get the autofs?
[02:03] <dsmith__> yes
[02:04] <dsmith__> master, misc, net and smb
[02:04] <dsmith__> thats it
[02:04] <sub[t] rnl> dsmith__: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[02:04] <dsmith__> ok
[02:04] <Hamra> joe_: i usually go to start menu, system settings, click on advanced, and see it there. You can also try "ALT+F2", and typing kcontrol, system administration
[02:04] <sub[t] rnl> near the bottum is some details on auto mounting nfs shares
[02:04] <yaccin> Hamra: i prefere systemsettings over kcontrol :P
[02:05] <Hamra> yaccin: me too
[02:05] <sub[t] rnl> kcontrol has a couple things that systemsettings left out though
[02:05] <sub[t] rnl> but yeah, systemsettings ftw
[02:06] <dsmith__> wait, I have fstab already setup with my nfs share
[02:06] <kerry> why do adept allways crashes at the end of an update?
[02:06] <dsmith__> why do I need to setup another config?
[02:06] <Hamra> i still wish there something similar to YAST in SUSE
[02:07] <yaccin> sub[t] rnl: i only know 1 thing ^^
[02:08] <kerry> adept tells me theres a new version of kubuntu what is it?
[02:08] <joe_> hamra, thanks, but this last ? was on a machine w/ ubuntu not kubuntu so the menus are all different.  I probably need to got a ubuntu channel
[02:09] <dsmith__> brb
[02:09] <Hamra> joe_: ya it probably is, i never tried the GNOME environment
[02:09] <Powerking> *gasp*...never tried gnome?
[02:09] <kerry> adept tells me theres a new version of kubuntu what is it?
[02:09] <Hamra> joe_: did you find what you want though?
[02:11] <kerry> adept tells me theres a new version of kubuntu what is it?
[02:11] <joe_> Yeah you solved my first 2 issue on my Kubuntu machine.  quick ?, is therea way to lock down the menus and such so my kids cant mess stuff up?
[02:13] <Hamra> joe_: on kubuntu, when i right click the bar, i see "Lock Panels"
[02:14] <joe_> Hamra, thatnks your a genious
[02:15] <Hamra> joe_: glad to help
[02:20] <xevious> kerry: which version are you running?
[02:22] <xevious> kerry: because the new version won't be out until the 18th, unless you have adept set to show prerelease updates
[02:23] <BigDaddy> OK, another (should be) simple question. I want a CPU - MEM - NET monitor like I had in GNOME's panel. The only thing I can find is CPULoad and KNetLoad. But they sit in the "system tray".
[02:23] <BigDaddy> SysGuard is empty and there is no option to config
[02:24] <BigDaddy> Any suggestions for that? I would like a graphical representation and not text
[02:24] <tzanger> hit control-escape
[02:24] <BigDaddy> task manager, OK
[02:24] <tzanger> that's the kde system guard... works fine for me
[02:25] <BigDaddy> Hmm, this is not what I meant. I am refering to the System Guard applet that is added to the panel
[02:26] <gridl0ck> superkaramba comes to mind and add a theme
[02:27] <BigDaddy> gridl0ck: I had thought about that, but I wanted something that was visible when a window was maximized
[02:27] <BigDaddy> So the panel is the logical place for me
[02:27] <gridl0ck> then applet it to the panel
[02:28] <gridl0ck> or a panel*
[02:28] <BigDaddy> superkaramba?
[02:28] <gridl0ck> no applet
[02:29] <BigDaddy> gridl0ck: I'm confused. That is what I am asking for. What applet can I install that will give me a graphical representaion of CPU/MEM/NET
[02:30] <gridl0ck> sorry misread - system monitor?
[02:31] <gridl0ck> i use superkaramba or gkrellm
[02:31] <BigDaddy> yes, I have that one, but I was hoping for one that was more like the monitor in the GNOME panel
[02:31] <BigDaddy> gkrellm, what is that?
[02:32] <gridl0ck> applets are limited and kind of well visually challenged
[02:33] <gridl0ck> it's a stacked monitoring app
[02:33] <BigDaddy> lol, that is what I am finding. That is such a shame too. Is there a way to use GNOME applets in KDE?
[02:34] <gridl0ck> i stay away from anything gnome related as much as possible - nothing against the team - but i try to support kde fully
[02:34] <hurd> need help....using ubuntu 7.04 (fiesty)... need voice chat capability on the fiesty box..
[02:35] <BigDaddy> I understand. I like only a few things about GNOME, but I love the feel of KDE so far. This is just one of the few things that is bugging me.
[02:35] <squidy> hey guys.. i've intalled the w32codecs into my system.. and when i try watch an rmvb video in kaffeine i just listen to audio.. but video doesn't apper..
[02:36] <squidy> how do i get audio and video works in kaffeine?
[02:36] <tetel> moin
[02:36] <Josie> son of a ***** the stupid alternative install CD wouldn't detect the wireless stuff correctly, and there's no way to give this computer a wired connection atm.
[02:36] <hurd> squidy...use vlc player
[02:36] <hurd> works everytime
[02:37] <gridl0ck> BigDaddy, in time you will come to appreciate the work of superkaramba and gkrellm if you use it to your liking
[02:37] <squidy> hurd: i know.. but i really want to run kaffeine for that.. is there a way to do that?
[02:37] <tetel> cu
[02:37] <gridl0ck> BigDaddy, i have re-written a unix.theme to my needs and use it on the laptop and desktop
[02:37] <BigDaddy> So far I am not impressed with desktop widgets
[02:37] <lontra> squidy: if you want a nice kde player i'd recommend kplayer
[02:37] <BigDaddy> gridl0ck: do you have a screenshot?
[02:37] <gridl0ck> let me screen shot this theme i mod'd
[02:37] <gridl0ck> sec
[02:38] <gridl0ck> have to minimize crap
[02:39] <squidy> ok ok.. i like kaffeine.. isn't a way to install rmvb codec and make it work with kaffeine?
[02:39] <BigDaddy> gridl0ck: thats exactly what I am talking about. If I have a bunch of windows open, I don't want to have to minimize them all to see the info
[02:39] <gridl0ck> erm not exactly what i was getting at - but sec
[02:39] <lontra> squidy: play around with the video settings
[02:47] <hurd> checkd some more on kaffeine
[02:47] <hurd> too many issues buddy
[02:47] <hurd> squid pro quo
[02:47] <hurd> :)
[02:48] <Josie> So ca anyone help me with this: I'm trying to install Kubuntu (7.04) with the alternative install cd (Computer doesn't have enough ram for the other one), however it doesn't load the proper module for my wireless adaptar and I won't connect to the network and thefore throws "Cannot download file" errors when it tries to install the base system.
[02:48] <squidy> weird.. :( kaffeine just play audio.. video doesn't appear..  :(
[02:50] <Josie> ... no one. damn.
[02:50] <adaran> can anyone tell me how to install synaptic?
[02:50] <xevious> Josie: sorry. i don't use wireless
[02:51] <xevious> Josie: do you know which module your wireless card uses?
[02:51] <dumnut> hi, i loaded kubuntu disk 6.06.1 yesterday and it worked fine hooking up to internet right away, then just hour ago it lost connection, i called att and it said signal goes to modem fine, but the modem lnternet light is off, is it bad mdem (6months old) or i need to configure some with kubuntu?
[02:51] <Josie> xevious: rt73
[02:51] <Josie> quite certain.
[02:52] <sn00ze> mnnn
[02:52] <xevious> Josie: can't you just modprobe it and start configuring?
[02:52] <sub[t] rnl> dumnut: sounds like the modem isn't getting power or malfunctioning.  If att said the signal string was ok (not getting many flaps) then its a hardware issue
[02:52] <xevious> Josie: again, i don't use wireless, so i don't know about setting up the keys and stuff
[02:52] <Josie> xevious: It's semi-graphical. uses curses. I suppose I could cntrl alt into another terminal and try to modprobe it.
[02:52] <xevious> Josie: that's what i'd do
[02:53] <Josie> I'll try that in a minute.
[02:53] <xevious> Josie: if it's in text mode, it's just alt to another terminal. ctrl-alt is for dropping from x to a text terminal
[02:53] <Josie> Yeah yeah.
[02:53] <dumnut> sub[t] rnl: good point, i'll call att to send me new modem. btw, i am trying to get funding to start my internet business, i'll let all you guys know when to register to buy my stocks.
[02:53] <xevious> just letting you know in case you didn't
[02:53] <Josie> Thanks =}
[02:54] <Josie> Alright gonna go try that.
[02:54] <Josie> Unfortuanetly, I'm using the computer I'm installing this on. lol. be back soon hopefully
[02:54] <smax> hi
[02:55] <clouder> !supergrub
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <sub[t] rnl> dumnut: keep us informed on that insider trading!
[02:55] <sub[t] rnl> :P
[02:57] <kerry> sub[t] rnl: how to connect linux on xp?
[02:58] <kerry> how to connect linux on xp? xevious
[02:58] <xevious> kerry: i'm not sure what you mean...
[02:59] <sub[t] rnl> kerry: if you want to access linux through windows you'll need to set up samba on the linux box
[02:59] <xevious> kerry: are you talking about sharing files between a linux and windows xp computer?
[03:00] <kerry> xevious: yes
[03:00] <sub[t] rnl> !samba
[03:00] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:00] <xevious> kerry: read those links, but the basic setup will be install samba and swat, connect to http://localhost:901/ in a web browser
[03:01] <Romina> hi
[03:01] <sub[t] rnl> hi
[03:01] <Romina> is there any known bug with firefox in kubuntu?
[03:01] <Romina> sometimes ... actually, very often,  firefox does not start when I do an ALT+F2 "firefox"
[03:01] <sub[t] rnl> not that I know of, you looking for a buffer overflow? :P
[03:02] <Romina> the firefox icon moves up and does next to my mouse pointer as if firefox would be up to start
[03:02] <Romina> after a minute or so this icon disappears
[03:02] <Romina> and firefox is still not running
[03:02] <xevious> Romina: you probably have a dead firefox process
[03:02] <Romina> xevious,  not really....
[03:02] <xevious> open a terminal or hit alt+f2 and type killall firefox
[03:03] <Romina> killall -9 firefox-bin   shows me that no dead process is active
[03:03] <xevious> huh
[03:03] <Romina> xevious, firefox-bin is the name of the process according to "top"
[03:04] <Romina> well,  I tried to reproduce the error by starting firefox out of "konsole"
[03:04] <Romina> but how often I try,  whenever I start firefox using konsole it starts
[03:04] <Romina> when I do "ALT+F2"  and "firefox"  it starts 1 of 4 times
[03:04] <Romina> does ALT+F2  use anything else than konsole?
[03:05] <sub[t] rnl> you see anything unusual in the konsole when you start it?
[03:05] <sub[t] rnl> any gripes?
[03:05] <clouder> Romina: I've had that problem too, as well as when I click Icons in the kde menu.  Just completely random as far as I've seen
[03:05] <Romina> clouder, any solution?
[03:06] <Romina> sub[t] rnl, nope,  when I start it in the konsole everything works fine
[03:06] <clouder> Romina: nah, I thought it was because I installed kubuntu-desktop ontop of a ubuntu install did you do the same?
[03:06] <Romina> clouder, no its a regular kubuntu installation
[03:06] <Romina> 7.04
[03:07] <sn00ze> will beryl run on a amd 800 and geforce2?
[03:07] <sub[t] rnl> how did you install it? source or apt or something else?
[03:07] <sub[t] rnl> firefox that is
[03:07] <clouder> Romina: I don't know then I don't have a solution, but it is a but annoying
[03:07] <Romina> sub[t] rnl, aptitude install firefox
[03:07] <clouder> a bit*
[03:07] <sub[t] rnl> Romina: odd
[03:07] <Romina> maybe I should compile it *g*
[03:08] <sub[t] rnl> hehe, yeah I've never had a problem with firefox + ubuntu/kubuntu
[03:08] <clouder> Romina: I don't think that would help, it did that to me earlier with adept, which I ran by clicking it through the k menu
[03:08] <xevious> i've seen the problem before
[03:08] <sub[t] rnl> xevious: any ideas on what causes it?
[03:08] <xevious> i've only seen it when there were dead firefox processes
[03:09] <sub[t] rnl> yeah
[03:09] <cmartello> does anybody know about sound-recorder and why it might regularly terminate after ~3 minutes when I set it to record for four hours?
[03:09] <xevious> Romina: try ps axuw|grep fox at the prompt
[03:09] <Romina> any other way to determine firefox processes than doing a "killall -9 firefox-bin" ?
[03:09] <Romina> ok
[03:09] <xevious> er in a terminal
[03:09] <grul> ps aux | grep firefox
[03:09] <xevious> not at alt+f2
[03:10] <grul> what's w do?
[03:10] <grul> in ps
[03:10] <xevious> wide mode
[03:10] <sub[t] rnl> yum
[03:10] <xevious> lets extremely long commands wrap to a newline
[03:10] <grul> oh
[03:10] <Romina> http://pastebin.com/d75df2637
[03:10] <Romina> thats the output
[03:10] <scienceboy> does anyone know of a way to create a live DVD that i can use as though the rest of the DVD is a hard drive?
[03:11] <Romina> but firefox runs now
[03:11] <xevious> Romina: was that with firefox running or not?
[03:11] <Romina> with it running
[03:11] <Romina> I closed every firefox window
[03:11] <Romina> still the same output
[03:12] <Romina> how can I kill these processes?
[03:12] <Romina> firefox: no process killed
[03:12] <Romina> firefox-bin: no process killed
[03:12] <Romina> does not work the  killall -9  stuff
[03:13] <xevious> Romina: kill 6432 6433
[03:13] <xevious> then do ps auxw|grep fox again to see if it worked
[03:13] <xevious> if not, try kill -9 6432 6433
[03:13] <xevious> and check again
[03:14] <Romina> user@linux:~$ ps axuw|grep fox
[03:14] <Romina> user      6532  0.0  0.1   2884   752 pts/2    R+   03:14   0:00 grep fox
[03:14] <xevious> yeah that's fine
[03:15] <Romina> so it should start now?
[03:15] <xevious> it should
[03:15] <xevious> you don't have the weird stale konsole processes running that were executing firefox
[03:16] <xevious> konsole --noclose -e /bin/sh -c firefox
[03:16] <Romina> ok
[03:16] <xevious> that's odd
[03:16] <Romina> moment pls
[03:16] <xevious> i dunno what that is
[03:16] <Romina> it started
[03:16] <xevious> superdeeduper
[03:16] <sub[t] rnl> nice nice
[03:17] <Romina> Thank you :-)
[03:17] <xevious> no problemo
[03:17] <Romina> can I create a shortcut icon for firefox?
[03:17] <Romina> tray icon ...
[03:17] <Romina> like gaim,  kopete,  xchat and so on
[03:18] <clouder> yeah, just right click one of them and choose add application
[03:18] <sub[t] rnl> sure, should be able to add and app to the kicker just by right clicking
[03:18] <TheDude> you cant even install pidgin on kbuntu
[03:18] <sub[t] rnl> ksmoothdock would be a lot cooler though
[03:18] <clouder> TheDude: I did, but I compiled it
[03:18] <sub[t] rnl> *cough*
[03:19] <TheDude> clouder: what a bunch of shit
[03:19] <clouder> ??
[03:19] <TheDude> it should be available in apt
[03:19] <clouder> i think it is
[03:19] <clouder> in backports maybe?
[03:19] <TheDude> clouder: you are crazy
[03:19] <clouder> it will be avail in gutsy I think I heard
[03:20] <TheDude> clouder: its a im client....how hard could it be to include
[03:20] <TheDude> goin to be availablee?
[03:20] <Romina> well, pidgin does not offer anything new to gaim
[03:20] <TheDude> Romina: so what?
[03:20] <Romina> both have the same problem:  No option to block ICQ contacts
[03:20] <Romina> (to appear invisible to a user)
[03:20] <clouder> TheDude: I don't know, I haven't made a package yet
[03:21] <TheDude> clouder: pigin is one of the most  popular chat clients
[03:21] <clouder> not sure about that, but I do like it
[03:22] <Romina> clouder, adding an app to the tray icons does not work
[03:22] <Romina> are you sure that you did not tell me how to add icons?
[03:22] <Romina> tray icons are these quick-starters
[03:22] <TheDude> I am capable of compiling it......uhhh....just , what kinda of repo is this?
[03:22] <Romina> when you close an application it still runs as tray icon
[03:24] <Romina> Backport for pidgin
[03:24] <Romina> http://www.aaron-spettl.de/ubuntu/pidgin-backport-feisty.php
[03:24] <scienceboy> does anyone know of a way to create a live DVD that i can use as though the rest of the DVD is a hard drive?
[03:25] <TheDude> this is a sssssloopppy version of linux...only thing its got goin is knetworkmanager and the power app
[03:29] <sub[t] rnl> whats sloppy?
[03:31] <hellhound> does anyone know where I can find pyxml?  i cannot find it in the adept manager
[03:33] <sub[t] rnl> hellhound: sudo apt-get install python-xml
[03:34] <Minataku> Where's gas and plasma?
[03:34] <Minataku> Sorry. Bored.
[03:34] <Minataku> lol
[03:34] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[03:34] <hellhound> sub[t] rnl: according to this site: http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine   i need both python-xml and pyxml
[03:35] <scienceboy> does anyone know of a way to create a live DVD that i can use as though the rest of the DVD is a hard drive?
[03:35] <Minataku> You can create a LiveDVD with customized contents, yes
[03:36] <Minataku> However after that, it's read-only
[03:36] <scienceboy> how do you customize the contents?
[03:36] <Minataku> I don't know, I've never done it. Try Googling.
[03:36] <scienceboy> k
[03:36] <Minataku> I'm sure there are instructions/tools out there ^^
[03:37] <cmartello> yeah, there's a couple tools
[03:37] <cmartello> they don't even look that hard to use
[03:41] <clouder> use the rest of the dvd as a hard drive? like to read and write?  that would be kerazie
[03:44] <squidy> hey.. is there a repository for software commercial-nonfree from canonical?
[03:46] <squidy> i found...
[03:49] <Les_Caesars> hey, I have a question about compiz. I configured compiz to initiate the mouse-rotate of the cube, when I middle click. But I only want it to rotate when I middle click on the desktop. How do  I go about doing that?
[03:53] <xevious> ok. so my question about compiz. is the only useful thing it offers the ability to shrink all your windows to fit the screen?
[03:53] <xevious> other than that, pretty stuff...?
[03:53] <Les_Caesars> xevious: lol. No.  Uninstall it and try again. That's not a problem any more
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> xevious: I think there is openGL passthrough...
[03:57] <Les_Caesars> xevious: it runs like normal. The performance is a little worse I think. But that just might be all in my head. I use Radeon, so OpenGL is f=ed up for me anyway
[03:58] <PSPJunkie> Has anyone had a problem where Power Manager reports 0% charged and it isn't charging at all, as well as running 'acpi' ?
[03:58] <Les_Caesars> xevious: did you install the compizfusion icon? It sounds like you never got to the configurer
[03:58] <Les_Caesars> to see all of the features it has
[03:58] <Les_Caesars> it really IS useful.
[03:58] <xevious> this was a while ago
[03:58] <xevious> what version of compiz am i looking for?
[03:59] <Les_Caesars> um. I don't have the latest. But mine is...
[03:59] <Les_Caesars> <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3~ppa4
[04:00] <xevious> Les_Caesars: which repository does that come from?
[04:00] <xevious> and what's the difference between compiz and compiz fusion?
[04:00] <Les_Caesars> xevious: gimme a moment to find out
[04:00] <Les_Caesars> xevious: compiz is old. Compiz fusion is what used to be compiz.
[04:00] <Les_Caesars> xevious: I make a bad habit of referring to compizfusion as just compiz
[04:00] <xevious> adept is showing 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 for me
[04:01] <xevious> that's just "compiz"
[04:01] <Les_Caesars> yeah. It's compiz-core for me
[04:01] <sub[t] rnl> beryl + compiz
[04:01] <sub[t] rnl> yum
[04:01] <Les_Caesars> but anywho. The repo...
[04:02] <Smurf-Slayer> Can someone please point me to "good" instructions on how to put Java on my Ununtu machine so it will work with Firefox?  THX
[04:02] <Les_Caesars> Smurf-Slayer: I know this isn't what you're asking for. But I think it's just a plugin you install from synaptic IIRC
[04:03] <Smurf-Slayer> I've tried to follow the "manual" install instructions, and I've tried doing the install RPM and using the RPM but that still does't work.  It complains that jre needs ... and a huge list of things...
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> !java | Smurf-Slayer
[04:03] <ubotu> Smurf-Slayer: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:03] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: 32bit or 64bit?
[04:04] <Smurf-Slayer> I just upgraded to 7.04.   And it is 32-bit
[04:04] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Java_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[04:05] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: pay attention to the first two lines that say "Read #..."
[04:05] <Les_Caesars> xevious: http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[04:05] <Les_Caesars> add one for source code and one without
[04:06] <Les_Caesars> those are the only ones I seem to have.
[04:06] <Les_Caesars> except for wine
[04:07] <Smurf-Slayer> I get this error when I try xevious' method... Package sun-java6-plugin is not available,
[04:07] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: then you didn't add the repositories
[04:08] <Smurf-Slayer> I gotta ask a dumb question... Why is this so darn hard?  Is it because of the license agreement or something?  I fail to understand why I can't just say "put it on there", and it does it... ARG!
[04:09] <PSPJunkie> No one has had this problem with acpi?
[04:09] <xevious> commercial (non-GPL) software takes a few steps. the main one is adding appropriate repositories for commercial software
[04:10] <Smurf-Slayer> I guess I'm missing some key parts on how to add this multiverse thing...
[04:11] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: http://kubuntuguide.org/Feisty#Add_Extra_Kubuntu_Repositories
[04:11] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: follow it step by step. read _everything_
[04:12] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: after that, it's just sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin (recommend closing firefox first)
[04:15] <Smurf-Slayer> xevious...  Okay, turned them on like it says, and it is actually doing it now!
[04:15] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: excellent!
[04:15] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: there's a whole lot of great info in that kubuntu guide, there's also the ubuntu guide which 90% applies to kubuntu
[04:15] <Smurf-Slayer> Got the jre, now it is doing bin
[04:15] <letalis> is there a way to setup a shortcut to the k menu similar to the way the windows key functions in windows.
[04:15] <letalis> ?
[04:16] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: just avoid automatix like the plague
[04:16] <xevious> letalis: alt-f1 does it
[04:16] <npillowpats> Smurf-Slayer : automatix is the devil
[04:17] <xevious> letalis: the windows key is a modifier in linux (like alt and ctrl) so i dont think that just the windows key can be assigned to any functions
[04:17] <npillowpats> man, icewm is nice
[04:17] <npillowpats> so minimal and humble
[04:17] <kcs80> xevious: it can, if you change the mapping
[04:18] <letalis> if i could set it to WIn+Z it would be fine
[04:18] <letalis> i just got used to having that functionality and having a search in kbfx is useless if you actually have to click the button
[04:19] <xevious> letalis: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:19] <kcs80> letalis: kcontrol > keyboard shortcuts > pop launch menu, and choose the combination win+z
[04:19] <kcs80> lol
[04:19] <xevious> letalis: "Popup Launch Menu" is there, under Panel
[04:19] <xevious> oh
[04:19] <kcs80> if you want the windows key to popup without any extra key, you will need to create a .Xmodmap file with the mapping
[04:20] <kcs80> ie "keycode 115 = F15"
[04:20] <xevious> kcs80: wouldn't that eliminate using the windows key as a modifier?
[04:20] <kcs80> xevious: yes
[04:20] <xevious> kcs80: thought so
[04:22] <Smurf-Slayer> xevious!  You da man!  Thanks VERY Much!
[04:22] <Smurf-Slayer> I've never gotten it to work before, and it does now!!!  WOO HOO!
[04:22] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: my pleasure. enjoy!
[04:22] <letalis> thanks xevious
[04:23] <xevious> yer welcome
[04:23] <letalis> now to get kbfx to work with it and ill be happy.
[04:23] <letalis> lol
[04:23] <Smurf-Slayer> Next easy question...  What do I have to do to see something like "Windows Task Manager", specifically the CPU, I/O and Networking utilization, if any of that is available?
[04:23] <LeRoy> I am running kubuntu feisty on my lenovo R61 lappy.  I have a Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller which I can ID with lspci, but it doesn't automount.  What is the command to mount this device?
[04:23] <letalis> Smurf-Slayer: its called ksysguard
[04:23] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: KSysGuard
[04:24] <mel> Hey guys, I am new to linux and I have a P105 Toshiba Satellite laptop computer. I have been reading up on the forums on the sound issues. I am having these issues. No sould at all. I tried everything that was posted on the forums. Can someone logon to my system for me and fix my sound. I had same problems ith saybayon so I switched to ubuntu with th same results...
[04:24] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: you can customize it to display what you want
[04:25] <Smurf-Slayer> Is that something I have to install, or is it already on here and I have to find it?
[04:25] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: K Menu -> System -> KSysGuard
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> mel: did you try going to #alsa yet?
[04:26] <Smurf-Slayer> Ahhh!
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> Smurf-Slayer: its already installed
[04:26] <xevious> Smurf-Slayer: it'll just take a little while to figure out how to customize the displays
[04:26] <acee1234> y doesnt the windows key act as super in kubuntu?
[04:26] <mel> I tried the alsa already yes..I will try again..
[04:27] <LeRoy> acee1234: it can, you just have to configure it to do so
[04:27] <acee1234> LeRoy: how do i do that?
[04:27] <LeRoy> in k-menu, system settings
[04:27] <LeRoy> acee1234: one sec
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> mel: well,  I would ssh in there...but I can't right now. I have to go in about 15 minutes
[04:28] <LeRoy> acee1234: ok, kmenu/system settings/Region & Language select keyboard layout, then chooce the xkb Options tab.  Enable xkb then scroll down the list of options and you will find one to enable win key as super OR...
[04:28] <mel> No problems.. Thanks anyway
[04:30] <LeRoy> acee1234: depending on the keyboard type you have, from the layout tab you can select the keyboard model which will then add the command to enable the win key as super... but I use an IBM type M keyboard, which is a 101 keyboard, and have to enable my left alt as super... so there is that as well
[04:31] <LeRoy> ok, back to my question: if my xD-Picture Card does not mount automagically is there a way to mount it manually?  I'm not sure what the device is...
[04:32] <scienceboy> what does the following lines mean
[04:32] <scienceboy> # apt-get remove ttf-baekmuk \
[04:32] <scienceboy>     ttf-kochi-gothic \
[04:32] <scienceboy>     ttf-kochi-mincho
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> LeRoy: take a look at dmesg after popping a card.
[04:32] <scienceboy> # vi /etc/apt/sources.list # (Enable universe repositories)
[04:32] <scienceboy> # apt-get update
[04:32] <scienceboy> # apt-get install partimage partimage-server ssh
[04:33] <scienceboy> # /etc/init.d/partimaged stop # (Stops extra processes and frees sockets)
[04:33] <scienceboy> # /etc/init.d/ssh stop # (Stops extra processes and frees sockets)
[04:33] <scienceboy> # update-rc.d -f partimaged remove
[04:33] <scienceboy> # update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[04:33] <scienceboy> # apt-get clean
[04:33] <scienceboy> # dpkg-reconfigure console-data # (Select Italian Standard keyboard)
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[04:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:33] <LeRoy> nosrednaekim: dmesg... forgot about that... I am able to find it in lspci... but forget to check dmesg...thanks, let me do that.
[04:33] <LeRoy> !paste
[04:33] <scienceboy> ah
[04:33] <acee1234> LeRoy: thank you works great
[04:33] <LeRoy> acee1234: welcome!
[04:34] <scienceboy> can someone tell me what this means?
[04:34] <scienceboy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40595/
[04:34] <dxdt> Hello, I'm currently using ubuntu and I would like to switch to kubuntu.  I don't want to just install kubuntu-desktop, however, because I feel that it will put WAY too many applications that I don't need on my machine.  Is there a minimalist KDE install I could do by chance?
[04:34] <Aresilek> I download and installed beryl-kubuntu from the rep., does anyone know how to fire it up?
[04:34] <pope> i'm having trouble getting stacks to work w/ kiba-dock, any suggestions?
[04:35] <xevious> ok, so Ctrl-Escape brings up "Taskmanager" according to System Settings. This launches KDE System Guard (KSysGuard) but only with the process table, not with the Load tab. anyone know why this is?
[04:37] <scienceboy> dxdt - i do not know of any minimalist KDEs, however what you could do is install the desktop, then spend a bit of time uninstalling the programs that you do'nt want
[04:37] <LeRoy> scienceboy: it debends on the context... it looks like instructions for removing a truetype font, then editing a source.list file for apt get followed by and update followed by and upgrade.
[04:37] <xevious> (and yes, i do know that i can switch it to a "Command Shortcut")
[04:37] <scienceboy> the context is as following
[04:37] <scienceboy> Now you are at the root of the (K)Ubuntu filesystem. Tweak the system as you like:
[04:37] <scienceboy> it has to do with creating a custom live CD
[04:38] <scienceboy> the link that i got it from is here
[04:39] <scienceboy> http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[04:39] <LeRoy> scienceboy: seems like there should be more to it.  I haven't created a live CD however, so I can't say for certain.  It's clearly instructions for installing partimage and partimage-server (as well as ssh, though I would assume ssh already installed, or personally I use openssh...)
[04:40] <xevious> last time i tried compiz you had to do without a pager. has this changed?
[04:40] <LeRoy> scienceboy: sorry, not experience with that... looks like that's step 6 of a longer list of steps though... have you done the first 5?
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> xevious: pager?
[04:40] <LeRoy> xevious: a pager?
[04:40] <scienceboy> leroy: i'm just trying to understand it first
[04:41] <LeRoy> scienceboy: well, the steps you've sited relate specifically to removing applications from apt, modifying the sources.list to enable getting additional applications from apt, then doing some clean-up and "tweaking"... that's helpful?
[04:42] <scienceboy> leroy: yes, it is helpful. but what exactly is sources.list? do i just put the names of the applications that i wish it to include into that file, and i'm good to go?
[04:42] <xevious> nosrednaekim, LeRoy: a desktop pager. the little thing where you see tiny outlines of the windows from all your desktops
[04:42] <kcs80> scienceboy: thanks a lot for this link, very nice information, I will try that
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> xevious: like expose?
[04:42] <xevious> nosrednaekim, LeRoy: the only way to see all your desktops was to spin the cube around
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> ah! I see
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> i'm not sure if that was fixed yet.
[04:43] <scienceboy> kcs80
[04:43] <scienceboy> kcs80: you're welcome. if you manage to do it, then please tell me!
[04:43] <xevious> i use the desktop pager all the time, drag windows from one desktop to another, etc
[04:45] <LeRoy> xevious: with compiz-fusion you can view all desktops via Expo as well as rotating the cube... plus you can use either window switcher or ring switcher to view all open apps, regarless of desktop... check out the folks at #compiz, they can get you more details
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> LeRoy: thats not what he is talking about.
[04:46] <tony_> Can anyone help with an install?
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> tony_: sure
[04:46] <xevious> LeRoy: yeah. i'll bother them instead :)
[04:46] <acee1234> when i try to install emerald it keeps telling me BREAK(install). any ideas?
[04:46] <LeRoy> xevious: they will likely have more info on setup and such... sorry couldn't be much help, though I use CF all the time.
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: what does it break?
[04:46] <xevious> thanks LeRoy
[04:47] <letalis> is ther ea program for X that would automate the mouse licking areas of the screen with a keyboard press?
[04:47] <letalis> i dont think hotkeying the kmenu will work with kbfx
[04:47] <letalis> clicking
[04:47] <letalis> lol licking
[04:47] <acee1234> x crashed if anyone replied please repost
[04:48] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: what does it break?
[04:48] <tony_> nosrednaekim: I am getting a hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 error when I try to access my slave drive
[04:49] <tony_> nosrednaekim: THat and I cant play any movies.
[04:49] <kcs80> acee1234: i would do a "dpkg --configure -a" and see if the break remains
[04:49] <nosrednaekim> !mount | tony_
[04:49] <ubotu> tony_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:49] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: it just says that from the adept packed manager under  "requested"
[04:49] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: humm... try installing it from the command line... it will give a better error
[04:50] <scienceboy> leroy: is that how sources.list works?
[04:50] <Airforce55555> is there a way to send around 500mb of info directly to someone else. not using any medium
[04:51] <NightBird> n/m I wasn't looking in the right spot..
[04:51] <tony_> !DiskMounter
[04:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:51] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/m554ae7f7
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> tony_: just use the disk and filesystems in system settings
[04:52] <acee1234> !ntfs-3g
[04:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:53] <LeRoy> scienceboy: sources.list is a list of sources (sorry to sound redundant!) for applications.  So for instance, the default sources.list file will contain the paths to the various source packages available.  YOu can modify sources.list to include additional sources.  So if you, for instance, want unsupported multimedia apps, you'd look for the medubuntu sources and add them to the sources.list.  aft
[04:53] <LeRoy> er that you'd updates your database of sources using apt-get update.  Then you could use apt-get install x to instal package x from the new sources.
[04:53] <tony_> nosrednaekim: How do I enable the disk?
[04:53] <nosrednaekim> tony_: are you in there?
[04:53] <kcs80> letalis: kmousetool, maybe?
[04:53] <tony_> nosrednaekim: Show Details not mouted
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: run a "sudo apt-get update"
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> tony_: ok, well, edit that disk/partition, and tell it to automount
[04:55] <tony_> nosrednaekim: click New?
[04:55] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: same error
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> tony_: yeah
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: what repositories do you have enabled?any 3rd party ones?
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> tony_: make the mount point somewhere in /media
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> have it able to be mounted by normal users.
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> have it be enabled at startup.
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> tony_: is it NTFS?
[04:57] <koubre> hi
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> no koubre
[04:58] <koubre> hi
[04:58] <nosrednaekim> *hi
[04:58] <clouder> scienceboy: yeah to addon to LeRoy, sources.list just lists places where app packages exists. then your package managers such as apt, adept, etc... (when updated) say hey I can now install this stuff.
[04:58] <nosrednaekim> lol
[04:58] <koubre> Im Mexican one questuion
[04:58] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: fixed it was the third party repositories
[04:58] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: thank you
[04:58] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:59] <scienceboy> leroy/clouder: so i modify sources.list to include different packages, with a url? and then i do apt-update to install them?
[04:59] <koubre> how install win Kubuntu
[04:59] <koubre> how isntall wine
[04:59] <tony_> nosrednaekim: FAT
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[04:59] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:59] <tony_> It says I need a mount point
[04:59] <koubre> tanks
[04:59] <LeRoy> scienceboy:  you add the source uri then use apt-update to update the local db for apt, then you use apt-get install to install a particular package...
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> tony_: ok,put in /media/slave
[04:59] <clouder> scienceboy: you you'd add the source to the sources.list then do $sudo apt-get update then $sudo apt-get install whatever-i-want-here
[05:00] <nosrednaekim> you can replace slave with whatever you want
[05:00] <scienceboy> leroy: so i use it to add teh repositorys
[05:00] <LeRoy> scienceboy: that's the idea!
[05:00] <scienceboy> leroy: thank you!
[05:00] <scienceboy> clouder: thank you too!
[05:00] <LeRoy> question: converting mp3 to wav/ogg in konqueror... what the syntax?  I've done it before, but I've forgotten...
[05:00] <LeRoy> scienceboy: np
[05:00] <scienceboy> leroy/clouder: so now i'm going to try that, after the new version comes out!
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> LeRoy: audiocd:/
[05:01] <tony_> nosrednaekim: YOU ROCK
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> tony_: that works?
[05:02] <LeRoy> nosrednaekim: that's to read the files from an audio cd and convert them to something else, if I remember correctly.  I already have the mp3 and I want to convert them to something else...
[05:02] <kerry> xevious: back
[05:02] <clouder> scienceboy: you mean gutsy?
[05:02] <tony_> nosrednaekim: If you can fix it so I can watch videos on here Kubuntu is a keeper..
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> LeRoy: ah sorry
[05:02] <kerry> xevious: to connect linux to xp
[05:02] <LeRoy> np
[05:02] <letalis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBFX_(KDE) kbfx wikipedia writeup, offers a way to use the win key with kbfx
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> tony_: what type of videos?
[05:02] <letalis> :)
[05:02] <tony_> nosrednaekim: Yes sir it did.
[05:03] <kerry> to connect linux to xp nosrednaekim
[05:03] <kerry> xevious: how do i proceed?
[05:03] <xevious> kerry: i'm heading out for the night. there are many people here who can help you out with setting up samba to share nicely with windows
[05:03] <scienceboy> clouder: yes, that one
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> kerry: eh.... i;m about to leave too.
[05:03] <kerry> lol
[05:03] <LeRoy> mp3:/
[05:03] <tony_> nosrednaekim: I tried wmv, avi, dvd nothing plays in Kaffine. I dl'ed the codecs in Add/Remove programs
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> just gotta finish with tony here
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> !codecs | tony_
[05:04] <ubotu> tony_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[05:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:04] <clouder> someone correct me if I'm wrong, but do upgrade to gutsy when it's official don't you do $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> tony_: use adept_manager,it lists more packages.
[05:04] <kerry> clouder: yes
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> clouder: you have to change your sources.list first, but yeah
[05:05] <clouder> oh you do, ok
[05:05] <tony_> nosrednaekim: WHen I was trying out Ubuntu ... everything played. It found the codecs on its own.
[05:05] <xevious> can someone help kerry out with setting up a simple samba share between a new kubuntu install and a windows computer?
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> tony_: yeah... indeed, its is nicer in that way. umm all I can say is try "libxine-extracodecs" and try to find a codec mentioning avi.
[05:06] <tony_> nosrednaekim: I'll try adpt_manager
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go... have fun everyone!
[05:06] <kerry> 7.04 :)
[05:06] <tony_> nosrednaekim: let me try. Thanks again for your help.
[05:07] <clouder> nosrednaekim: have a good one
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> NP :)
[05:07] <kerry> xevious: all  the time u are there u could of tell me how or give me the tuto on a website or something
[05:08] <clouder> kerry, have you tried ubuntuguide.org?
[05:09] <clouder> I've gotten my samba working with my pops windows laptop a few times following their samba walkthrough
[05:11] <kerry> xevious: how do i check to see it i got sound?i dont have nothing on the pc
[05:11] <xevious> kerry: i'm trying to leave, but i don't want to leave you without seeing that you get helped. what you want to do is set up samba on your kubuntu system. you need to install the package samba (using apt-get at the command prompt or adept if you prefer graphics), then configure samba to share a directory either read-only (more secure) or read-write (harder to set up and less secure). if you also install swat, it gives you a web interface to configur
[05:11] <xevious> onfiguration files. read up here: http://kubuntuguide.org/Feisty#Samba_File_Sharing - and google for the samba howto
[05:12] <xevious> kerry: there's a test for your sound card if you click on the K Menu -> System -> Kubuntu Device Database
[05:13] <xevious> kerry: good luck, read everything carefully (swat has very detailed documentation, but it can be a bit cryptic to new users), and i'll be on tomorrow if you need any more help
[05:13] <xevious> and when can i get kubuntu affiliation in here? i've helped like a million people in the last week
[05:14] <kerry> xevious: it will be 2morow in 45min
[05:14] <kerry> :)
[05:14] <xevious> kerry: well i'm going to the bar, so tomorrow means like... tomorrow afternoon
[05:14] <kerry> k
[05:15] <xevious> i'll add you to my buddy list so i can check in on your progress tomorrow
[05:15] <kerry> !sound
[05:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:15] <crxyem> anyone here use rsync ?
[05:17] <Telroth> can anyone give me a list of the default groups that the initial user is in?
[05:18] <crxyem> Telroth : adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin
[05:18] <crxyem> at least that what my system has for UID 1000
[05:19] <Telroth> thanks
[05:19] <Telroth> that's what i was looking for :)
[05:20] <Myrth[home] > hi, is it a bug in konqueror: on http://www.opensource.org/licenses/osl-3.0.php it shows in <ol> 6. after 1. ?
[05:23] <clouder> Myrth[home] : there's def something wrong.  In my konq it jumps from 1 to 6
[05:24] <Myrth[home] > also, all the programs besides ones from kde (kopete for example) open firefox for links. kopete opens them in konqueror. where do i configure it to use firefox?
[05:24] <juan> hello all! i have a problem with my kpresenter, it doesn't load any power point presentations
[05:25] <Telroth> crxyem, do you know if I have to do anything special to get it to update group access in terminals ?
[05:28] <kcs80> Myrth[home] : true, that is a bug. and for the firefox, there is "default applications" option on kcontrol where you can set it
[05:30] <Myrth[home] > kcs80: thakn you :)
[05:30] <Myrth[home] > thank
[05:32] <clouder> Myrth[home] : and if kcontrol def app. doesn't work double check to make sure that the application itself isn't choosing to open links in konq over firefox or whatever browser it's using
[05:33] <Myrth[home] > clouder: kcontrol worked. couldn't find it in kopete
[05:33] <clouder> Myrth[home] : ahh ok, great ;D
[05:34] <Myrth[home] > there's no link in menus for kcontrol in gutsy right?
[05:34] <Myrth[home] > maybe would be nice to have it
[05:34] <crxyem> Telroth : can't say that I do
[05:35] <clouder> Myrth[home] : I've yet to try gutsy at all, might want to ask around in ubuntu+1 see if you get anything
[05:36] <Myrth[home] > i don't think it was in feisty either :)
[05:36] <Telroth> i don't think they've ever had it
[05:36] <Telroth> I simply use the settings applet on my kicker though
[05:36] <Myrth[home] > with the latest updates gutsy behaves nice with my laptop
[05:36] <clouder> Myrth[home] : oh, I just assumed k medu system settings was it :X
[05:37] <Telroth> it provides a menu with all of kcontrol's applets and a link to kcontrol
[05:37] <Myrth[home] > Telroth: you mean System Settings in menu?
[05:37] <clouder> oh, is kcontrol like gconf?
[05:37] <Telroth> yeah, kinda
[05:38] <Telroth> Myrth[home] , no
[05:38] <Telroth> right click on blank space on your kicker
[05:38] <Telroth> select "Add Applets..."
[05:38] <Myrth[home] > oh i see
[05:38] <Myrth[home] > hate to waste space on my panel :P
[05:38] <Telroth> it's just an icon :P
[05:39] <Telroth> "Settings Menu"
[05:39] <Telroth> kinda like the apple menu on mac OS 9
[05:39] <Myrth[home] > i like the minimal icon size in quick launcher applet :)
[05:39] <Telroth> one of the few things i liked about that OS
[05:39] <Myrth[home] > panel icons are spanning over whole height and same width.. so can't use them efficiently
[05:40] <Telroth> i use small, thin bars
[05:40] <stephan> can anyone tell me the easiest way to install java and java firefox plugin for kubuntu 7.10?
[05:40] <Telroth> sudo apt-get install sub-java5-jdk
[05:40] <Myrth[home] > Telroth: i have 3 rows of launcher, tasks and systray
[05:41] <Telroth> Myrth[home] , you're not actually supposed to run that much stuff at once :D
[05:41] <Telroth> :P
[05:41] <Telroth> Myrth[home] , then again I don't use the taskbar
[05:41] <stephan> Telroth: it says it cant find that package
[05:41] <Myrth[home] > Telroth: you don't??
[05:41] <Telroth> beryl's Scale plugin has made a nice replacement for that
[05:42] <Telroth> stefan, make sure multiverse and universe repositories are enabled
[05:42] <Telroth> I have a thumb button on my mouse
[05:42] <Telroth> which i have set to activate scale
[05:42] <Telroth> much, much quicker than task bar
[05:42] <Telroth> so task bar wen away :)
[05:42] <clouder> oh speaking of taskbar, how do I make alt tab show windows from both of my screens (dual monitor)
[05:43] <Telroth> uh
[05:43] <Telroth> rebind the keys
[05:43] <clouder> I looked in shortcuts I didn't see anything
[05:44] <clouder> it said all workspaces but I don't want all workspaces I want all windows from one workspace on two monitors
[05:44] <Telroth> aye
[05:44] <Telroth> other than that i dunno in kde
[05:44] <Telroth> in beryl you can by default
[05:44] <tony134> does anyone play openarena?
[05:44] <leileilol> me
[05:44] <leileilol> i play it      every month!
[05:44] <leileilol> once :(
[05:45] <leileilol> which is funny because i lead the project lol
[05:45] <leileilol> i actually play other games more than my own
[05:45] <tony134> i'm having a problem with openarena not returning to the original resolution or refresh. is that a common problem?
[05:45] <leileilol> no
[05:45] <leileilol> hrm
[05:45] <leileilol> i have no idea about htat one, sorry :/
[05:45] <tony134> i even had the problem on last install
[05:46] <tony134> seems a common problem with a few games i run. using a 6800GT
[05:46] <tony134> great game though. i just made a simple script to click on for that problem and it returns me to 1680x1050
[05:47] <leileilol> could be your driver configuration, doesn't happen on fglrx (ati)
[05:47] <leileilol> that doesn't mean it's unsolvable for nvidia though. that's the first time i've heard about this bug
[05:47] <Myrth[home] > Telroth: any advantage of beryl over compiz?
[05:47] <leileilol> and i do not have a linux box with an nvidia card ready
[05:49] <Telroth> Myrth[home] , currently beryl crashes a lot less for me than compiz-fusion
[05:49] <tony134> also on video config i can't change resolution sometimes unless i choose either 68 or 67 hertz which my monitor doesn't natively support but works anyhow. that may be the root of the problem
[05:49] <Telroth> that and i have yet to figure out how to get compiz-fusion to bind to mouse buttons
[05:49] <Telroth> so, despite beryl being discontinued, I still use it
[05:49] <Myrth[home] > hmm.. trying to add in adept emerald and it says BREAK (install) why?
[05:51] <Myrth[home] > heliodor too, but aquamarine is ok
[05:52] <Telroth> uh
[05:53] <Telroth> i dunno
[05:53] <Myrth[home] > Telroth: nm :)
[05:53] <Telroth> i use trevino's repos
[05:53] <Telroth> never had any trouble with them
[05:58] <Jaearess> Does anyone know what group you have to be part of to access joysticks? I accidently removed myself from all groups and apparently didn't add the one for joysticks back.
[06:00] <tony134> anyone know how to rename images in digikam?
[06:01] <medivh> !make
[06:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:02] <Myrth[home] > Telroth: interesting, when i try to move window beryl maximizes width... :)
[06:02] <stephan> Telroth: wouldn't i want to be using java6 instead of 5?
[06:02] <Telroth> Myrth[home] , can't explain that
[06:03] <medivh> !botsnack
[06:03] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:03] <Telroth> stephan, there's not a *whole* lot of difference between them, but yeah java6 would be slightly better
[06:04] <Telroth> it's realatively new to me to have java6 in the repos so i forget it sometimes
[06:05] <kerry> how do i dee y xorg file?(/)
[06:08] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I partitioned an external hard drive as FAT32 and one primary partition, but it's not showing up in Kubuntu.
[06:08] <medivh> Does anyone happen to use Karamba? or know of another tool with similar function?
[06:11] <tony134> snowdonkey: did you mount it?
[06:12] <snowdonkey> tony134: No.  I was expecting a dialog to come up like other external devices.  How can I mount manually?
[06:13] <tony134> snowdonkey: http://www.google.com/search?q=mount+fat32&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[06:14] <tony134> snowdonkey: just edit the file and it should automount on startup
[06:15] <tony134> snowdonkey: it's normally done on kubuntu when installing and there's a command that will autodetect and mount, forgot it though
[06:15] <snowdonkey> tony134: Which file should I edit?
[06:16] <snowdonkey> tony134: /etc/fstab?
[06:16] <tony134> snowdonkey: yep
[06:16] <snowdonkey> tony134: Cool, thanks.
[06:17] <tony134> snowdonkey: np
[06:21] <WorkingOnWise> can someone help me decide between kontact and evolution? I was an Outlook user who has had his last freakin windows BSOD! I don't use exchange, but I do use the linking abilities, the scheduling, all the contact abilities, as well as the journaling and task list. Which app gets me closer to those features.
[06:23] <arrilaser> howdy all
[06:23] <tony134> WorkingOnWise: from what i hear, kontact
[06:23] <WorkingOnWise> Hi FunnyLookinHat. I remember you from when I tried out Fiesty and had sooooo many ATI/beryl problems...
[06:23] <WorkingOnWise> FunnyLookinHat: Thanks again for all the help.
[06:24] <arrilaser> i have a silly quetion regaurding 2.4ko files and 2.6 loads w/o rebuilds should I go someplavce else
[06:25] <WorkingOnWise> what smartphone os syncs well with kontact?
[06:28] <WorkingOnWise> what language is koffice written it?
[06:29] <n8k99> its written using the Qt toolset, which is written in C++
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> WorkingOnWise, lol no worries   : )
[06:36] <MurielGodoi>  Hi, recently I update my amarok from 1.4.3 to 1.4.7 in Kubuntu 7.04, since that my amarok is freezing and using 100% of cpu during several seconds when I perform a search in my collection. Had anyone faced the same problem?
[06:37] <flaccid> things like that are pretty common
[06:38] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: I tried to delete ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok folder,  reinstall the packages,but no success? There is a possible solution for that issue?
[06:39] <dsmith__> has anyone been able to get SD cards working in Ubuntu?
[06:39] <MurielGodoi> dsmith: My hp laptop has sd slot and it works fine here
[06:41] <dsmith__> thats what I have
[06:41] <dsmith__> internal on my hp
[06:41] <dsmith__> MurielGodoi: Did you do anything special?
[06:42] <ubunturos> configuring the X server while it is on tty7, isn't good?
[06:42] <MurielGodoi> dsmith_: nothing
[06:42] <ubunturos> (from tty1)
[06:42] <dsmith__> fiesty?
[06:42] <MurielGodoi> dsmith_: yep
[06:42] <dsmith__> hmmmmmmmm
[06:43] <dsmith__> my images are from my treo
[06:43] <dsmith__> I dont know the format
[06:43] <dsmith__> mybe thats why?
[06:43] <dsmith__> did you format the disc?
[06:43] <flaccid> MurielGodoi, report it as bug. goto #amarok
[06:43] <flaccid> !bugs
[06:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:44] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: ok thx
[06:44] <dsmith__> I like ubuntu takes bug reports
[06:44] <flaccid> MurielGodoi, also check that codecs are installed and that no scripts are loaded. its possible an amarok script is causing it. check top to see which process is doing 100%
[06:44] <dsmith__> easier then M$
[06:44] <WorkingOnWise> can I cleanly change from Ubuntu AMD64 to Kubuntu AMD64, without needing to reinstall the whole OS?
[06:45] <stdin> WorkingOnWise: yeah, just install "kubuntu-desktop" from synaptic and you can choose kde when you login
[06:45] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: amarok app is using 98% of my core 2 duo for playing a mp3 file!
[06:46] <flaccid> and is the mp3 file playing
[06:46] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: yep... but sometimes it freezes
[06:47] <flaccid> yep i would report the bug on launchpad and talk about it in#amarok as well. its these kinds of things that make amarok look amateurish imo
[06:48] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: ok i will do that
[06:49] <flaccid> cool
[06:52] <chequers> hi all, how do I change dolphin to use the more conventional 'double click to open a folder', rather than the single click method?
[06:52] <stdin> chequers: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse
[06:52] <chequers> cheers
[06:55] <bwayne> so why is it that the Ubuntu gnome desktop seems to get more innovative development that the Kubuntu desktop?
[06:56] <chequers> more people use it
[06:56] <stdin> because after a feature is added to ubuntu it has to be ported to kde
[06:56] <stdin> takes time and effort
[06:56] <bwayne> so is kubuntu not directly supported by Canonical, as Ubuntu is?
[06:57] <chequers> it's as official as ubuntu is
[06:57] <stdin> it is
[06:57] <joe1> If I  got wireless working in ubuntu, will it still work if i load the kde desktop?
[06:58] <stdin> yes, the drivers are the same on both
[06:58] <sub[t] rnl> networkmanager and knetworkmanager are the same thing, so yup
[06:59] <WorkingOnWise> anyone using kde4? how do you like it compared to 3?
[07:00] <sparr_> is there anything that i can put inside a script so that when run, it behaves as if i had passed it through source?
[07:00] <joe1> what are the main advantages to kubuntu over ubuntu?
[07:00] <stdin> well, it has KDE
[07:01] <stdin> that's the main and only difference
[07:01] <ubunturos> joe1: and some things work out of the box for Kubuntu, than Ubuntu
[07:01] <joe1> ok, what is the main benefit of kde over gnome?
[07:01] <stdin> joe1: you'd have to try Gnome and KDE  for yourself to see, it's a preference
[07:02] <sparr_> joe1: kde is more poweful.  gnome is easier to use.
[07:02] <flaccid> somebody in ##windows told me flash drives don't use or require partitions, only filesystems. is this true or false?
[07:02] <sparr_> flaccid: both
[07:02] <stdin> they don't have to, but neither does a HDD
[07:03] <sparr_> flaccid: no drive NEEDS partitions, you could write a filesystem directly to a normal hard drive if you wanted
[07:03] <flaccid> i guess thats what i thought
[07:03] <sparr_> flaccid: but, if you want to play nice with windows and digital cameras, dont partition flash devices  :)
[07:04] <flaccid> right
[07:04] <joe1> sparr_: in a nutshell, how is kde more powerful?  what fuetures do like over gnomee?"
[07:04] <stdin> general discussion in -offtopic, thanks
[07:05] <sparr_> joe1: kde offers a LOT of integration.  in particular, the kioslave input/output system allows for any kde application to open files over sftp, smb, ftp, etc
[07:06] <sparr_> stdin: the set of conversation outside 'general discussion' and 'things that belong in #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu' is so vanishingly small that it wouldnt actually merit a channel
[07:06] <WorkingOnWise> sparr_ do you know what development tools are used for kde and koffice?
[07:07] <stdin> sparr_: if it's not a support question, it does not belong in here
[07:07] <sparr_> stdin: 99% of all kubuntu support questions belong in #ubuntu
[07:08] <stdin> sparr_: no, this is kubuntu support for those running kubuntu. some issues are shared with #ubuntu but that doesn't mean they have to be in there
[07:08] <sub[t] rnl> still, support questions are fielded and answered here, as this is what the channel is for
[07:09] <momal> Can someone tell me a good dvdauthoring tool. I need a gui able to add chapters and titles. I need it to support pretty much any format(avi mainly). Please don't say any of the following qdvdauthor, devede, kmediafactory, dvdstyler. Something similar to Nero vision under windows but for linux.
[07:09] <sparr_> forbidding general discussion is counter productive.  the channel would be silent, losing the attention of the few people still awake and willing to actually field support questions
[07:09] <sparr_> momal: have you considered nero vision in wine or crossover?
[07:10] <stdin> sparr_: regardless, those are the channel rules
[07:10] <n8k99>  sparr_ not necessarily true as not all timezones are late
[07:10] <momal> sparr_: That would mean I have to pirate nero vision.
[07:10] <helloyo> can i launch an application as a different user? kdesu doesn't seem to do this (cannot connect to xserver)
[07:11] <flaccid> gui or cli, helloyo ?
[07:11] <sparr_> n8k99: and yet channel activity tends to follow us east coast peak times.  we have you outnumbered  :-p
[07:11] <stdin> helloyo: Alt-F2, Options > Run as a different user
[07:11] <sparr_> helloyo: kdesu sudo -u otherusername commandtorun
[07:12] <sparr_> or that  :)
[07:12] <sparr_> stdin's way requires you to know the other user's password.  my way requires you to have sudo access to sudo  :)
[07:12] <joe1> sparr_:so with wine can you run  very many windows programs?
[07:12] <flaccid> first 1 is most harmless
[07:12] <helloyo> sparr_, flaccid, stdin: thanks, the alt+f2 method did the trick
[07:13] <sparr_> joe1: yes.  between 10% and 90%, depending on your field  :)
[07:13] <sparr_> having sudo access to sudo is actually a Bad Thing, imho, but i believe debian and ubuntu ship with it enabled
[07:13] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: That problem should be related to package managament stuff
[07:13] <sparr_> a good thing to bring up in #ubuntu  :)
[07:14] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: a guy in #amarok told me to update libxine and libxine and libxine-extracodecs
[07:14] <MurielGodoi> flaccid: so i realized that i hadn't the package libxine1-kde installed
[07:15] <MurielGodoi> after i install that pakage and libxine-extracodecs, all problem seens be solved here
[07:15] <flaccid> yeah thats what i said first MurielGodoi . you said it was playing the mp3 so... but maybe you did a manual upgrade and neglected to update the codecs?
[07:16] <flaccid> an mp3 would not be able to play without libxine-extracodecs or equiv
[07:16] <MurielGodoi> at first I installed ubuntu and afterthat I install kde-desktop package
[07:17] <MurielGodoi> and did all apt-get update/upgrade
[07:17] <flaccid> yeah first thing i said was codecs, but thats cool. if they were not installed it should actually have said an error and not do 100% cpu..
[07:18] <MurielGodoi> I guess if can the package libxine1-kde be out of kde-desktop dependences?
[07:18] <flaccid> nope
[07:18] <flaccid> its not
[07:18] <flaccid> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:18] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:18] <flaccid> totally optional
[07:19] <MurielGodoi> i agree about libxine-extracodecs... but and about libxine1-kde?
[07:19] <flaccid> !info libxine1-kde
[07:19] <ubotu> libxine1-kde: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 92 kB
[07:20] <stdin> hmm, I don't have libxine1-kde installed on my feisty system and amarok plays mp3s fine
[07:21] <MurielGodoi> stdin: do you use kde or gnome?
[07:21] <stdin> kde
[07:21] <stdin> how dare you ask :p
[07:21] <flaccid> i don't know if i cbf to find the answer lol packages.ubuntu.com aint loading for me and im on windows lol
[07:22] <MurielGodoi> stdin : sorry about that :/ I am not a english naitive speaker...
[07:22] <flaccid> haha
[07:23] <MurielGodoi> stdin: Wasn't my intention be rude
[07:23] <flaccid> he was just doing a joke haha
[07:24] <flaccid> seems like libxine1-kde just has more kde specific xine libs including libarts
[07:25] <flaccid> maybe its a better suited pkg for kubuntu than libxine-extracodecs, not sure
[07:25] <Scunizi> how do I get flash working in konquerer?
[07:25] <MurielGodoi> okay :)
[07:25] <holycow> anyone here setup the kde4 test environment in the topic?
[07:25] <holycow> does that work on gutsy?
[07:25] <acee1235> amarok wont play mp3's in kubuntu 7.10 any ideas?
[07:25] <MurielGodoi> acee1235:I know that one :)
[07:26] <acee1235> MurielGodoi: solution?
[07:26] <MurielGodoi> acee1235: Install libxine-extracodecs package
[07:26] <acee1235> MurielGodoi: how
[07:26] <flaccid> !adept | acee1235
[07:26] <ubotu> acee1235: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:26] <stdin> acee1235: it's "libxine1-ffmpeg" actually
[07:26] <MurielGodoi> acee1235: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs in sheel
[07:26] <acee1235> use sudo apt-get instal...right
[07:27] <acee1235> ok
[07:27] <flaccid> well libxine1-ffmpeg is a dep yeah
[07:27] <Scunizi> does libxine-extracodecs enable flash?
[07:27] <flaccid> !flash
[07:27] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:27] <stdin> !info libxine-extracodecs gutsy
[07:27] <flaccid> nope Scunizi
[07:27] <ubotu> Package libxine-extracodecs does not exist in gutsy
[07:27] <dorkface> !hotkeys
[07:27] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[07:27] <stdin> no libxine-extracodecs in gutsy
[07:27] <flaccid> ouch
[07:28] <flaccid> meh im out of touch, coz i just went to a new employer that uses windows heh
[07:28] <NickPresta> I thought gutsy had a new metapackage for all the extra codecs (audio, video, etc)?
[07:29] <wightstraker> Hey all, I have a problem I hope you could help me with
[07:29] <hangthedj> kubuntu-restricted-extras i think
[07:29] <flaccid> i guess #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <acee1235> MurielGodoi:  no good and package that "replaced it" doesn twork
[07:30] <stdin> acee1235: the package "libxine1-ffmpeg" is the package that lets amarok play mp3s, make sure you restart amarok after it's installed to take effect
[07:30] <wightstraker> I had to reconfigure xorg.conf in order to get my monitor to display the proper resolution, however every time I logout and log back in it doesn't remember any of the changes I made
[07:30] <wightstraker> So I have to reconfigure every time I log in
[07:30] <wightstraker> Any ideas?
[07:31] <gunashekar>  i was adviced to install the latest drivers for alsa. I have downloaded it , can anyone tell me how to install?
[07:31] <acee1235> stdin: i did that, installed restared amarok still no go
[07:32] <acee1235> stdin: is there something in amarok that i need to change configure or enable?
[07:32] <kao> Hi
[07:32] <stdin> acee1235: shouldn't be, to make sure look in the settings and make sure it's using xine engine
[07:33] <wightstraker> Anyone..?
[07:34] <flaccid> how did you configure X, wightstraker
[07:34] <acee1235>  stdin: it is using it still no go
[07:34] <kao> I am a Ubuntu user - can anyone direct me to a site where I can get some advice re-open office 2.2?
[07:35] <wightstraker> flaccid: in safe restart, recovery mode, sudo mpkg-reconfigure xserve-xorg
[07:35] <wightstraker> flaccid: I tried it both as root and as a user
[07:36] <wightstraker> flaccid: but when I switch to regular startup I get no signal until I reconfigure
[07:37] <flaccid> um not sure whtas going on there. but i would but up normal and then goto tty2 then kill kdm then configure x then restart kdm, if it fails, check logs
[07:37] <flaccid> but up = boot up
[07:38] <flaccid> at least this way you can see log and problem. and instead of starting kdm after new xorg.conf, you could alternatively do startx and see the problem in standard out on screen
[07:39] <wightstraker> Thanks flaccid
[07:39] <wightstraker> I'll keep experimenting
[07:42] <flaccid> wightstraker, check log first: cat /var/log/X.org.0.log or whatever it is
[07:42] <lachlan> hello does anybody know how to get compiz fusion working in 7.10?
[07:43] <flaccid> what version is 7.10
[07:43] <lachlan> gutsy
[07:43] <flaccid> is that gutsy  - see #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <lachlan> ok
[07:44] <flaccid> its native and is meant to work out of box heh
[07:44] <lachlan> do you know the command to start it?
[07:44] <flaccid> can't remember sorry, but those chans will advise
[07:45] <flaccid> i've had it going, but yeah gutsy still in dev too
[07:46] <lachlan> i have found a tutorial butits for 7.10
[07:49] <flaccid> sounds about right
[07:52] <flaccid> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/04/compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbin/
[07:52] <flaccid> ah well
[07:57] <sstchur> I recently installed kubuntu 7.10 rc.  I did it as a clean install on my /dev/sda1 partition.  I specifically left my dev/sda3 partition alone as that is where all my personal data is.  However, I forgot to mount /dev/sda3 as /home when I was doing the install.  Is that easy to change after the fact?
[07:59] <flaccid> change what
[07:59] <flaccid> !fstab
[07:59] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:01] <helloyo> anyone have trouble with video playback in 7.10 (fast forward not working well)?
[08:02] <flaccid> helloyo, #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <helloyo> #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <helloyo> oops...
[08:13] <sstchur> So I managed to change my /home back to /dev/sda3, but with it came all of my old KDE settings, which I actually /don't want/.  Is there a way I can keep /home on my old partition, but sort of start all over configuring KDE?  b/c I liked the new look that 7.10 had, but I'm not seeing any of it not that my old settings are being picked up
[08:27] <GPTSUXXX> DCC SEND GPTisreallyfuckinggayha 0 0 0
[08:34] <segu> DCC SEND GPTisreallyfuckinggayha 0 0 0
[08:34] <NickPresta> heh, thanks SportChick
[08:40] <sstchur> if I wanted to reformat one of my partitions (ext3), what would be the best way to do this?  Is that a disk management utility, or is command line the best way to go ?
[08:40] <victor> =
[08:44] <shinda> hope someones still here, anyways trying to update system so it can deal with new ipod nano's so I upgraded libgpod, just wondering would I also need to then upgrade amarok by recompiling it so that it also uses the new library when interfacing with the ipod?
[08:44] <Tm_T> shinda: prolly not
[08:45] <shinda> Tm_T just wondering because I've been having problems throughout and I rember seeing some docs about how RhythemBox needed to be re-installed
[08:46] <chalcedony> i broke xsane, i can't get it to come into focus, does anyone know what it's called to kill it?
[08:49] <usser> chalcedony: ps -Al | grep xsane
[08:49] <usser> note the pid
[08:49] <chalcedony> usser: ty
[08:49] <usser> and then do sudo kill pid
[08:49] <usser> where pid is a pid of xsane
[08:50] <chalcedony> 0 S  1009 28907     1  0  75   0 - 61962 -      ?        00:00:14 xsane
[08:50] <chalcedony> which number is it?
[08:51] <usser> 28907
[08:55] <chalcedony> i'm getting a device busy error
[08:55] <chalcedony> wont restart xsane
[08:56] <CH1P> How to update kernel without internet?
[08:59] <sstchur> how do I copy my home directory to a new partition, making sure to get all necessary files and symlinks and stuff?
[09:21] <Alamue2> Any issues with Kubuntu running on the same RAID 0 array as windows in Dual boot?
[09:22] <chequers> can anyone recommend / advise of package manager guis that have a search function?
[09:22] <helloyo> chequers: not adept?
[09:23] <checkers> I'm wondering if there are alternatives mostly
[09:25] <anfaenger> guten morgen...
[09:26] <anfaenger> ich sitze voelloig verzweifelt vor meinen rechner.
[09:26] <anfaenger> bin neuling und suche hilfe.
[09:26] <anfaenger> jemand da der mir helfen kann ?
[09:32] <octet> anfaenger not to kick you off, but I think channel kubuntu-de is a german language channel, it is common to use english here
[09:35] <octet> but if you let me answer in english, i'll try to help you although i am a novice as well
[09:35] <anfaenger> octet thanks...
[09:36] <anfaenger> i made some changes in my system and got into big trouble now..
[09:36] <anfaenger> i am new to kubuntu..
[09:36] <anfaenger> after start a erreo is coming witch say error:/system
[09:36] <anfaenger> a same erroe for trash
[09:37] <anfaenger> apt is not working = erroe that another session of apt is running what i dont understand and can't find witch one
[09:37] <anfaenger> any idea of help for me?
[09:37] <checkers> anfaenger, if your install is new, consider reinstalling
[09:38] <anfaenger> it is not new... but i would lke to install it again but without loosing the old data
[09:38] <blekos> hi, i'm about to switch 2 linux 95% of my works, my problem is how to backup my email. I'm using kontact and have found tutorials on the internet which did not do any good on my last crash
[09:39] <blekos> is there a way to have all mails in one place like outlook's pst file?
[09:39] <blekos> what is the difference between mbox & mdir?
[09:39] <octet> anfaenger do you have separate partitions for / and /home?
[09:40] <anfaenger> sorry i dont have octet.
[09:40] <xevious> blekos: mbox is most similar to outlook's pst file: one file with all your mail in it. maildir is a directory with separate files for each email
[09:41] <blekos> thnx xevious
[09:41] <xevious> np
[09:42] <octet> angaenger, don't be sorry for me, be sorry for yourself ;-)
[09:42] <octet> For next time it works better to have them separated, then you can reinstall and don't reformat your home partition, and so retaining your old data
[09:43] <anfaenger> got it octet..
[09:43] <xevious> octet: a way to save all your stuff, assuming everything you want to keep is in your home directory, is to boot to a live CD, remove everything except /home (remember to do ls -a to get anything starting with a .), and install without formatting the partition
[09:43] <octet> That doesn't help you now thought, can you backup all data
[09:43] <xevious> octet: what filesystem are you using?
[09:44] <octet> xevious: I am using ext3 (but I am not the one in trouble)
[09:44] <anfaenger> i understood that i do have to reinstall right???
[09:44] <xevious> durr
[09:45] <xevious> anfaenger: refer to what i just said to octet
[09:45] <anfaenger> a good friend installed it to me and i affraid to reinstall it.
[09:45] <xevious> and anfaenger: what filesystem are you using?
[09:45] <anfaenger> ext3
[09:46] <xevious> you could shrink your / partition down (easiest / most user-friendly way is using something like gparted), create a new partition for your /home data and start gradually moving the contents of /home into that new partition
[09:47] <anfaenger> xevious that all sounds great.. but kubuntu is black magic to me..
[09:47] <xevious> uhoh. i wish i wasnt drunk
[09:47] <anfaenger> even though i dont know hot to install the amba and even the graphics card...
[09:47] <xevious> i coudl help you much better
[09:47] <sub[t] rnl> xevious! u too?
[09:47] <sub[t] rnl> :D
[09:47] <xevious> ROCKIN!
[09:48] <xevious> !offtopic :D
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <xevious> heheheh
[09:48] <anfaenger> i thought there is any way to settle it in the apt management ..
[09:48] <sub[t] rnl> lol
[09:48] <xevious> we should teach ubotu that !offtopic :d = refer to !offtopic, when drunk
[09:49] <anfaenger> i was already lucky that i got back my kdesktop via apt-get funktion
[09:49] <xevious> anfaenger: i bet there is
[09:49] <xevious> anfaenger: you're in germany?
[09:49] <anfaenger> i am german, but living in china
[09:49] <xevious> oh. even worse
[09:49] <xevious> our time zones dont match up at all
[09:49] <anfaenger> yes...
[09:49] <xevious> what time will it be there in 9-10 hours?
[09:50] <anfaenger> 3 in morning...
[09:50] <xevious> it's 4 in the morning here :)
[09:50] <xevious> hm
[09:50] <sub[t] rnl> xevious go to bed
[09:50] <anfaenger> so california somewhere??
[09:50] <xevious> i'll be able to focus then...
[09:50] <xevious> connecticut, opposite side of the states
[09:50] <xevious> cali is 1am-ish right now
[09:50] <anfaenger> got it...
[09:50] <xevious> sub[t] rnl: where are you?
[09:50] <sub[t] rnl> mizzouri
[09:51] <sub[t] rnl> smack in the middle
[09:51] <anfaenger> shanghai
[09:51] <xevious> i need to do a sweep of asia at some point
[09:51] <anfaenger> i try it in the german chat...
[09:51] <xevious> yes, and good luck
[09:51] <anfaenger> thanks
[09:51] <xevious> otherwise, sign on at around 3 or 4am and i'll be glad to help you out
[09:52] <anfaenger> thanks again...
[09:52] <xevious> i just really can't use logic right now :)
[09:52] <anfaenger> got it ;)
[09:52] <xevious> anfaenger: well apt says there's an instance already running? run ps auxw|grep apt|grep -v grep at a terminal and paste it into a pastebin
[09:52] <octet> anfaenger: final call: can you backup to another media
[09:52] <xevious> !paste
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:53] <xevious> well. that actually shouldn't output more than a line or two, so paste it in here
[09:54] <xevious> if that doesnt give any results, do ps auxw|grep -i adept|grep -v grep
[09:54] <luca> hi everyone
[09:54] <xevious> hi luca
[09:55] <xevious> oh he left
[09:55] <luca> can someone help me please hacking a bit knetworkmanager? :)
[09:57] <xevious> not i, i disabled it
[10:02] <wers> if I am on feisty, is it okay for me to use a 3rd party repo for edgy or dapper?
[10:05] <xevious> wers: why do you need to?
[10:05] <wers> there's no feisty epo
[10:06] <wers> repo
[10:06] <xevious> for which software?
[10:09] <wers> okay... I'm going to be honest. there is no gutsy repo for opensync.. I'm on gutsy.. dont worry, I'm also trying #ubuntu+1
[10:09] <xevious> :D
[10:10] <xevious> there's no reason to lie here
[10:10] <Tm_T> wers: =)
[10:11] <wers> I said, "if I am on feisty".. I was just trying to inquire about repo problems in general.. hehe
[10:12] <Hamra> good morning people
[10:12] <xevious> wers: now, i use feisty, but this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/+search?text=opensync seems to think there's opensync in gutsy
[10:12] <Hamra> is there a way of letting opera browser use kde wallet?
[10:16] <wers> I was thinking of adding the repo, xevious, but I need the repo for a package that is not included in the official repos
[10:16] <wers> I need the synce plugin
[10:17] <xevious> wers: unfortunately i'm just blindly digging around on launchpad, but: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/synce-kde/0.9.1-1ubuntu2
[10:18] <xevious> or just https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/+search?text=synce for an overview
[10:18] <xevious> i'm gonna have a cigarette and go to bed
[10:19] <wers> thank you very much xevious, but I really couldnt get synce-kde to work
[10:19] <wers> been trying that almost half-a-year already
[10:19] <xevious> shucks
[10:20] <xevious> you know i've never even plugged my handspring into a computer
[10:20] <xevious> :D
[10:20] <wers> xevious: yeah.. PIM junkie here
[10:20] <wers> ahehehe
[10:22] <wers> found a deb for the plugin I need..
[10:22] <wers> things ran..
[10:22] <wers> until I saw no successful syncing
[10:23] <wers> my epic syncing journey isn't over yet.. wowwww
[10:24] <xevious> wers: good luck.
[10:24] <xevious> cig, cup'o'water, bed
[10:25] <xevious> i'll be back tomorrow to help out, anfaenger.  also i'm gonna be bothering kde/compiz-fusion users for tips
[10:25] <xevious> peace out folks
[10:26] <anfaenger> thanks xevious
[10:27] <xevious> anfaenger: regarding the apt is already running thing, open a konsole and check the output of ps auxw|grep -i apt|grep -v grep
[10:27] <xevious> anfaenger: under normal conditions you shouldn't see anything from that command
[10:27] <xevious> anfaenger: if you do, kill it
[10:27] <xevious> anfaenger: also check ps auxw|grep -i adept|grep -v grep
[10:28] <luca> xevious: about kde/compiz fusion ask away :)
[10:29] <xevious> anfaenger: i have two processes showing from that second command: adept_notifier running under my username and kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-root/klaunchersH0Bha.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-root/adept_updaterk41j3a.slave-socket
[10:29] <xevious> anfaenger: if you see any others, they probably can be killed
[10:29] <anfaenger> xevious, i did that and this works now..
[10:29] <anfaenger> i also installed dpkg files ...
[10:29] <xevious> anfaenger: your installation working now?
[10:29] <anfaenger> i have trouble still on my desktop....
[10:29] <xevious> :(
[10:30] <xevious> luca: tomorrow. i need sleep. but thanks for offering!
[10:30] <anfaenger> the folder icons dont open a folder even the data is on the harddisk
[10:30] <xevious> anfaenger: what did you do to your installation??
[10:30] <anfaenger> i wanted to clean some unused progs..
[10:30] <anfaenger> but seems i deinstalled a important part of kubuntu
[10:31] <xevious> anfaenger: uhoh. cleaned some used ones you didn't realize, huh?
[10:31] <wers> Hmm.. Kitchensync says that the status of my KDE Pim plugin is "Error: Broken Pipe"
[10:31] <luca> xevious np
[10:32] <anfaenger> i eben dont know where to search for this question :(
[10:32] <xevious> anfaenger: open adept and check if kubuntu-desktop is installed
[10:32] <xevious> anfaenger: if it isn't, install it
[10:32] <xevious> or if you can't get to adept, do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:32] <anfaenger> i have the desktop... but kdesktop
[10:33] <anfaenger> looks like it is not installed the right way!
[10:33] <anfaenger> i am downloading the package
[10:34] <xevious> also check the package kde-core
[10:34] <anfaenger> how to check the packages?
[10:34] <anfaenger> or just install it?
[10:34] <xevious> this is going to reinstall some of those unused packages, but it'll probably fix your problems
[10:34] <xevious> anfaenger: are you using adept (the graphical installer)?
[10:35] <anfaenger> at present i use apt...
[10:35] <xevious> i would just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and kde-core
[10:35] <xevious> er
[10:35] <xevious> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kde-core
[10:35] <anfaenger> got it xevious..
[10:35] <xevious> anfaenger: possibly kubuntu-default-settings too
[10:35] <anfaenger> kubuntu desktop is already running
[10:36] <anfaenger> i'll do that
[10:36] <xevious> anfaenger: what do you mean? that you are in a graphical environment, or did apt say that the package kubuntu-desktop is already installed
[10:36] <xevious> ?
[10:37] <anfaenger> apt is installing kubuntu-desktop..
[10:37] <anfaenger> i knew that my trouble was coming from the desktop, but i installed kdestktop not kubuntu-desktop
[10:38] <xevious> i would check that kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings are installed too
[10:38] <anfaenger> yes... i just see konquerror and so on will be installed new now.
[10:38] <anfaenger> i lost all hat stuff.
[10:39] <xevious> i'm about to fall asleep at the computer, i hope this works for you
[10:39] <anfaenger> i hope so...
[10:39] <anfaenger> have a good sleep my friend..
[10:39] <anfaenger> greeting to conneticut
[10:39] <anfaenger> and many many thnaks..
[10:39] <anfaenger> i guess that will work for me.
[10:39] <xevious> anfaenger: send me a private message if it works
[10:39] <anfaenger> dont know to where ...
[10:40] <thomas> !hotkeys
[10:40] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[10:40] <anfaenger> give me ur mail or msn please
[10:40] <xevious> here, on irc, type /msg xevious it worked!
[10:40] <xevious> i'll see it when i wake up tomorrow and smile
[10:40] <thomas> !keyboard
[10:40] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[10:40] <anfaenger> first of all have sweet dreams xevious
[10:41] <xevious> i plan on it :) thanks
[10:41] <anfaenger> seems that u sleep alone...
[10:41] <xevious> tonight i do
[10:41] <anfaenger> girls would beat u into the bed already :)
[10:41] <xevious> heheh
[10:42] <anfaenger> at least they are same everywhere around the world
[10:42] <xevious> what? crazy?
[10:42] <anfaenger> girls!
[10:42] <xevious> oh ok.
[10:42] <xevious> :D :D
[10:42] <xevious> synonym?
[10:43] <anfaenger> ok than sweet drams
[10:43] <xevious> thanks again, friend. i hope your troubles are fixed soon.
[10:43] <anfaenger> u may email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:43] <xevious> wow. my last name is coleman
[10:43] <xevious> cool
[10:44] <anfaenger> our grandparents brothers ???
[10:44] <xevious> i come from the irish O'Colmain
[10:45] <DarkEarth> ciao a tutti
[10:46] <anfaenger> private message is blocked for me..
[10:46] <anfaenger> but i will let u know by email
[10:46] <xevious> oh ok
[10:46] <xevious> well i just sent you a bunch of private messages :)
[10:47] <anfaenger> i see them.
[10:47] <xevious> that's good
[10:47] <anfaenger> and i will ask ...
[10:47] <anfaenger> in kubuntu or probably you :)
[10:47] <xevious> right on
[10:47] <anfaenger> thanks again...
[10:47] <xevious> you're welcome
[10:47] <Road_kill> hey guys
[10:47] <xevious> my pleasure
[10:47] <Road_kill> I have a short script
[10:48] <Road_kill> #!/bin/bash
[10:48] <Road_kill> ksystraycmd thunderbird %u
[10:48] <Road_kill> amarok %
[10:48] <duccio> hi all...i want upgrade kubuntu from Feisty to Gutsy RC but...the button "full upgrade" doesn't work...some ideas?
[10:48] <xevious> have a good day.. night... whatever it is in china
[10:48] <Road_kill> Do you guys know why the thunderbird line, prevents amarok from running?
[10:48] <Road_kill> When I close thunderbird, then it Amarok runs.
[10:48] <pag> Road_kill, try adding & at the end of TB line
[10:48] <anfaenger> thanks xevious.. here is  in afternoon
[10:48] <xevious> duccio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[10:48] <xevious> over and out.
[10:49] <anfaenger> :)
[10:49] <anfaenger> bye bye!!
[10:49] <Road_kill> pag: PERFECT! do you know what %u means?
[10:49] <pag> Road_kill, nope. I'd say nothing too important, but it's just my guess.
[10:50] <Road_kill> pag: Thanks :)
[10:50] <duccio> xevious:yes...i follow the istruction in this page but when i "fetch updates" the botton "full upgrade" don't became highlighted
[10:54] <thomas> what do I install to get my laptop specific hotkeys to work?
[10:54] <thomas> worked perfectly in feisty
[10:54] <thomas> but after upgrade to gutsy some died :/
[10:56] <hangthedj> !gutsy | thomas
[10:56] <ubotu> thomas: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:59] <thomas> hangthedj: yeah, well I tried there, but to no avail
[11:00] <duccio> hi all...i want upgrade kubuntu from Feisty to Gutsy RC but...the button "full upgrade" doesn't work...some ideas?
[11:00] <hangthedj> thomas, k
[11:00] <hangthedj> thomas, what kind of laptop do you have?
[11:05] <anfaenger> msg xevious It works. Thanks a lot for yyour support and have sweet dreams.
[11:06] <Tm_T> =)
[11:08] <Hamra> any one know how to let opera web browser use kde wallet?
[11:11] <fred__> slt
[11:15] <michael__> hallo !
[11:15] <michael__> gibt es hier auch einen deutschen kanal
[11:16] <llutz> !de | michael__
[11:16] <ubotu> michael__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:18] <er> hello everyone :)
[11:19] <er> i just installed kubuntu (RC) and would like to fix the menus (additional text that needs to be removed). Does anybody know how to do that?
[11:21] <pag> er, what additional text? you mean like Amarok - Music player etc.?
[11:21] <DevideZero> in kubuntu 7.10 compiz fusion will auto matic installed and enabled ? ( even on the live cd ) ?
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> DevideZero: if the underlying hardware can support it, yes
[11:21] <er> pag: no, there seams to be some bug (the menus have really long descriptions (after an update)
[11:22] <er> like so: Entries in L Menu: Speed Crunch App Name, Calculator
[11:23] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | er
[11:23] <ubotu> er: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:23] <er> ok, thanks :)
[11:23] <DevideZero> ok my question is if all the things that are new in ubuntu ( and the arent gnome's things ) will be also in kubuntu 7.10 ?
[11:23] <DevideZero> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc
[11:23] <er> one last thing: are the 3d desktop settings working and if yes, how do i enable that?
[11:24] <mateusz> Hello
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> this will sound like a spam advert but it isnt, but someone has made available over 400 fonts for Ubuntu 100% free (legally) that they have created http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/10/13/465-free-fonts-for-ubuntu/
[11:25] <DevideZero> lol
[11:27] <er> anyone uses virtualbox?
[11:27] <hangthedj> er, not often
[11:27] <hangthedj> offten
[11:27] <hangthedj> often
[11:28] <er> hangthddj: what else do i need  to install to get the virutal box kernel sources? (i have only virtualbox-ose and virtualbox modules generic installed but can't use the app)
[11:29] <hangthedj> are you using the archive.cannonical.com repos?
[11:29] <er> hmmm good question
[11:29] <er> just what ever was enabled at the time of install
[11:29] <er> i saw that is was version 1.5
[11:29] <er> which is the latest
[11:29] <hangthedj> er, well? how did you get virtualbox?
[11:29] <er> adept manager
[11:30] <hangthedj> er, feisty?
[11:30] <er> gutsy gibbon
[11:30] <er> i just downloaded the 7.10 RC today
[11:30] <hangthedj> ok, just 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox' and it should work.
[11:31] <er> ahhh, just like in the good old days ;) thanks :)
[11:31] <hangthedj> er, also try asking in #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <er> k
[11:42] <DevideZero> kubuntu 7.10 will automatic detect the printers that connected to my pc ? ( i have canon pixma ip500 ) ?
[11:46] <waylandbill> DevideZero: use the kde printing wizard in system settings.
[11:47] <ubuntu_> ciao
[11:55] <filemover> hi ive just installed mplayer and i get the following error message when trying to play any file. "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device" can anyone help thnx
[11:56] <DevideZero> waylandbill , i know but in 7.04 there wasnt my printer model ( may be it too old ) and now more printer are supported ? ( canon pixma ip1500 exist in the kde printers wizard ?)
[11:57] <ardchoille> DevideZero: That is not a definite list. Other printers could be supported and just not in the list. The list is of known supported printers. It's not written in stone.
[11:59] <DevideZero> ardchoille , ok so how i can know if my printer is supported ( without to install and config drivers )
[12:00] <ardchoille> You have to install it and see. Then if you find it is supported, contact the folks who made the list and let them know they can add another printer to the list. That's how those lists get larger.
[12:01] <level1> hi, guidance-power-manager for kde may be causing my computer to suspend twice every time.  I can't prevent it starting on startup, how do I do that?
[12:15] <filemover> hi has anyone been able to compile handbrake the DVD to avi ripping took
[12:15] <filemover> tool
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> filemover: Ive been using dvdrippomatic
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> filemover: its free
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> and FOSS
[12:17] <filemover> dvdripomatic
[12:17] <filemover> :)))
[12:18] <filemover> does it encode the videos as well
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> yep
[12:18] <filemover> what about encoding directly from the vob's
[12:18] <filemover> into xvid
[12:19] <filemover> ill give it a go anyway thnx
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> http://dvdripomatic.sourceforge.net/view.php/page/Voorpagina
[12:20] <filemover> that looks pretty simple
[12:20] <filemover> ill give it a go
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> very simple
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> filemover: k3b will also ripp dvd's
[12:25] <filemover> is there a deb package for it
[12:26] <filemover> aptitude show dvdripomatic  doesnt show anything
[12:27] <Pete__> How do I go about hiding the user list for kdm in gusty?
[12:28] <waylandbill> !info k9copy
[12:28] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 649 kB, installed size 1764 kB
[12:29] <runlevelten> !dvdbroken
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdbroken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <runlevelten> !fixautomount
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixautomount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <runlevelten> Does anybody already know of something which breaks CD/DVD mounts in feisty?
[12:30] <runlevelten> I'm kind of snowed under with work and don't have time to investigate further than I have, so if anyone's able to say "ah yeah, happens all the time, it's x,y,z" ...
[12:30] <runlevelten> ...I'd appreciate it
[12:32] <Pete__> runlevelten: Can't say I know, is it only automounting thats broken, or mounting in general?
[12:32] <runlevelten> both with the dvd drive
[12:32] <runlevelten> works fine in opensuse etc.
[12:32] <runlevelten> trouble is I work in kubuntu right now, heh
[12:32] <Pete__> Has it worked at all in feisty?
[12:33] <runlevelten> Yeah I've installed software so I guess it must have done
[12:34] <Pete__> I know of some people who have been able to boot/install laptops in feisty from CD, but the cd drive disappears after install
[12:35] <Pete__> I presume its something to do with there being no module there that supports it, apparently it works in gusty for them
[12:35] <Pete__> This is not your case though, right?
[12:35] <runlevelten> yeah, something's not right, I've checked the obvious stuff but I'm in one of those situations where
[12:36] <runlevelten> I'm mister octopus arms and haven't the time to troubleshoot, heh
[12:36] <runlevelten> Yay @ konqueror though, I can get at the files very quickly :)
[12:38] <runlevelten> Not massively bothered either, If I can pull this off and get everything signed off by tommorrow lunchtime I'm buying myself a new computer. I'll worry about it if it does it on that too
[12:39] <runlevelten> *tomorrow
[12:39] <Soner> http://www.stormofcash.com/index.php?ref=ezis15 EARN REALL MONEY ON E-GOLD!!!
[12:42] <LegolasV> hello, is there someone here who can help me with a (fn) hotkey problem? (for the power manager on a dell notebook on kubuntu)
[12:50] <pretoria> hii
[12:50] <pretoria> theres any one here?
[12:50] <nacholibre> How can I see which line is in use in pico?
[12:50] <nacholibre> Hi Pretoria.
[12:50] <pretoria> hi
[12:50] <Hamra> when i try to start sharing, it says NFS and SMB server not installed, what is the name of the package rerquired?
[12:50] <pretoria> first i want to say that i dont speek english very well ;)
[12:50] <nacholibre> Hamra : INstall samba
[12:51] <pretoria> and second
[12:51] <nacholibre> It works just with samba ;)
[12:51] <pretoria> anyone here knows about a repo with updated snapshots of kde4?
[12:51] <pretoria> newer than beta 2
[12:51] <Hamra> ok, thnx
[12:53] <pretoria> no?
[01:01] <flavia> hi, how do I login as a different user in konsole?
[01:01] <SSJ_GZ> pretoria: Beta3 will be coming soon (tomorrow probably) - I'd imagine that the Kubuntu devs would have packages available relatively soon after that.
[01:05] <nacholibre> @flavia:
[01:05] <nacholibre> STRG *
[01:05] <nacholibre> ALT
[01:05] <nacholibre> + F1, F2, F3, F4
[01:05] <nacholibre> etc
[01:07] <damianos> hi
[01:07] <damianos> I have a question about synchronization in kde for ff
[01:07] <damianos> for gg sorry
[01:07] <damianos> I used evolution
[01:08] <damianos> but I switched to kubuntu
[01:08] <damianos> and I can not use any synchronization tool for kde
[01:08] <tazz> i did a netinstall of kubuntu but now that os is taking too long to boot, it took more then 50 min to boot into single user mode. Trying to troubleshoot any one, has an idea what could be the culprit here?
[01:08] <damianos> is there eny equivalent in kde fo evolution ?
[01:08] <tazz> oh its kubuntu 7.10 btw
[01:09] <LegolasV> damianos: evolution is mail right?
[01:09] <damianos> not only
[01:09] <damianos> I know that i can use kontact - I would like to use it
[01:09] <LegolasV> damianos: ok, well evolution should also work under KDE, but native KDE is Kontact
[01:09] <damianos> but I can not synchronize it with my nokia phone via bluetooth
[01:10] <damianos> I read in net there is kitschensync but this package was removed from 7.10
[01:10] <damianos> I am looking for support for syncml in 7.10 kubuntu
[01:11] <LegolasV> hm, well I don't have any bluetooth devices, so I'm not sure about how it works, but I do know there is a synchronisation tooling for kontact
[01:11] <ubuntu_> J
[01:12] <damianos> which one ?
[01:14] <damianos> LegolasV: which one is for sychronisation ?
[01:15] <LegolasV> damianos: does opensync work for you? there is (apart from kitchensync) another gui client for it as I can remember
[01:16] <damianos> but i need plugin for opensync in kontact
[01:16] <LegolasV> damianos: look for the packages on opensync-plugin-kdepim opensync-plugin-syncml
[01:16] <damianos> I as understand kitchensync is/was this kind of plugin
[01:16] <damianos> ok thanks for tips
[01:16] <LegolasV> kdepim is kontact
[01:21] <faLUCE> hi. do you know any audio APE converter? thnks
[01:40] <Kubuntu> Hi Is here a man who can help med
[01:41] <Ditte_> hi
[01:41] <Kubuntu> i have problems with my bluetooch
[01:41] <Kubuntu> Mouse
[01:41] <Ditte_> it's official: I hate Kubuntu
[01:41] <Kubuntu> ok
[01:41] <Ditte_> it "forgot" my vieo driver
[01:42] <Ditte_> I'm now running at 640X480
[01:42] <pag> !fixres | Ditte_
[01:42] <ubotu> Ditte_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:42] <Kubuntu> i have alsp problem with my  Tvtuner Card'
[01:44] <Kubuntu> Is Here a Smart Man Who Can HELP mE ???
[01:45] <pag> !patience | Kubuntu
[01:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:46] <Kubuntu> OK
[01:48] <Kubuntu> Is her a man who have time and whant to help me ? :o)
[01:50] <WaltzingAlong> faLUCE: wine
[01:51] <WaltzingAlong> !ask | Kubuntu
[01:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:56] <TimS> Whats a good VNC viewer and server?
[01:56] <kerry> can someone help me to install my drivers for my ati card?i dont know hat ati card i have because it built in the motherboard.help please
[01:56] <Kubuntu> ok
[01:56] <TimS> !vnc
[01:56] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[01:57] <Ditte_> re
[01:57] <Ditte_> ok, so I am still at 640X480, and Linux froze twice when I did the X thing
[01:57] <Ditte_> impressive, I'd never seen kubuntu freeze
[01:57] <Ditte_> now, I hate it even more
[01:58] <kerry> can someone help me to install my drivers for my ati card?i dont know hat ati card i have because it built in the motherboard.help please
[01:58] <filemover> try looking at the hardware on your system with lspci
[02:00] <Ditte_> filemover: it says VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 01df (rev a1)
[02:00] <Ditte_> I swear it knew it just yesterday
[02:00] <Ditte_> how can an OS just *forget* a driver?
[02:01] <kerry> Ditte_: i have a Radeon Xpress 200 is it good enought to run beryl?
[02:01] <filemover> nVidia is the video card I think
[02:01] <Ditte_> kerry: erh...beg your pardon?
[02:01] <filemover> in mine it says Intel Corporation 82915G
[02:02] <filemover> nVidia is the driver
[02:02] <kerry> Ditte_: i have a ati Radeon Xpress 200 is it good enought to run beryl?
[02:02] <filemover> do you know if youve got an intel chipset
[02:03] <Ditte_> kerry: aside from the obvious answer "beryllium silicate", what is beryl?
[02:03] <filemover> I cant see how you can be talking to me now if your drivers are stuffed up
[02:03] <kerry> Ditte_: o.O are u a noob?
[02:03] <filemover> chipset drivers that it
[02:04] <Ditte_> filemover: it's only the video driver...and I'm talking to you in 640 X 480. It's SO annoying
[02:04] <filemover> i see
[02:04] <Ditte_> kerry: definitely. Newbie and full of murderous rage
[02:04] <filemover> you want to extend the range of your resolution
[02:04] <filemover> wait i had to do this myself
[02:04] <kerry> Ditte_: change your resolution
[02:04] <Ditte_> filemover: I'd love that
[02:05] <filemover> one sec ill have to dig arround a biit ok
[02:05] <Ditte_> kerry: I Can't.
[02:07] <RivaeAerya> Is it safe to update to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:07] <filemover> ok Ditte_ im looking at a guide for ubuntu but the same applies your have to reconfigure the xserver
[02:08] <filemover> ill send the url
[02:08] <filemover> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~djm/ubuntu/feisty/
[02:08] <kerry> Ditte_: for me to look it up i'll have to log in on my other pc a look at the history it might take like 15mins or so
[02:08] <RivaeAerya> Is it safe to update to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:08] <filemover> its not hard to do this at all
[02:09] <Ditte_> filemover: erh, thanks, I'll see if I can manage to read it at this resolution
[02:10] <filemover> lol
[02:10] <filemover> thats the point
[02:10] <filemover> they tell u to use the terminal to do it all
[02:10] <Ditte_> god...I can see half a paragraph at a time
[02:10] <Ditte_> this'll take hours
[02:11] <filemover> heres another guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:11] <Ditte_> at the end of which I won't have understood anything
[02:11] <squidy> hi.. i've copied a menu from previews konqueror servicemenus to actual dolphin servicemenus folder.. but it's not appearing in the dolphin menu..
[02:12] <squidy> doesn't dolphin compatible with konqueror servicemenu files?
[02:13] <filemover> Dittte_ u got the terminal open there
[02:13] <fdoving> squidy: should be, doesn't the actions appear on the right panel?
[02:13] <filemover> Ditte_
[02:13] <attunix> Hi. How do I import a non-DVI file into Kino?
[02:13] <filemover> u got the terminal open
[02:14] <squidy> fdoving: doesn't appear..
[02:14] <squidy> weird
[02:14] <fdoving> squidy: you can try to run 'kbuildsycoca' without sudo from a konsole,then restart dolphin.
[02:14] <squidy> fdoving: no, i can't
[02:15] <squidy> sorry.. lemme see
[02:16] <squidy> i did it.. but nothing appears yet.. :(
[02:16] <fdoving> then i'm out of ideas. sorry.
[02:16] <filemover> Ditte_  you can fix it two ways the first is by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in which case youll be prompted for the values and settings you want to apply In the second case you can edit the xorg.conf file directly but you have to get the right setting
[02:17] <squidy> fdoving: do you know the format of the both files (konqueror and dolphin) are same?
[02:17] <kerry> Ditte_: did u find how to get back your resolution?
[02:17] <tigeroar> kubuntusplash?
[02:18] <tigeroar> 7.10
[02:18] <filemover> i reckon hes overwritten the xorg.conf file somehow
[02:18] <kerry> tigeroar: lol
[02:18] <kerry> !jp
[02:18] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[02:18] <attunix> !cn | tigeroar
[02:18] <ubotu> tigeroar: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:18] <kerry> tigeroar: ^^
[02:18] <tigeroar> thanks
[02:18] <attunix> tigeroar, ?
[02:18] <filemover> wtf does that say
[02:19] <tigeroar> china
[02:19] <attunix> tigeroar: Ni hao
[02:19] <filemover> ah!
[02:19] <kerry> filemover: lol
[02:19] <filemover> lol
[02:19] <emonkey>
[02:19] <attunix> kerry: I speak Chinese :)
[02:19] <attunix> It's Chinese
[02:19] <tigeroar> attunix:
[02:19] <filemover> could have fooled me
[02:19] <kerry> filemover: he sait k.m.a
[02:19] <Ditte_> aaaaall right
[02:19] <kerry> said*
[02:20] <Ditte_> wisdom for future generations: if your VGA cable sits loose, Kubuntu forgets your video driver
[02:20] <attunix> tigeroar:
[02:20] <filemover> Ditte_ hows it going there
[02:20] <kerry> attunix: no i dont speak it
[02:20] <Ditte_> if you fasten it, the video driver reappears and your mouse stops working
[02:20] <tigeroar> where are you ?
[02:20] <attunix>
[02:21] <attunix>
[02:21] <attunix> lol Chinese in the English chat :P
[02:21] <tigeroar>
[02:21] <filemover> speak f----'n english
[02:21] <Ditte_> filemover: fine: I fastened the VGA cable and it went back to working normally. Maybe it was just a coincidence
[02:21] <pag> !en | tigeroar, attunix
[02:21] <ubotu> tigeroar, attunix: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:21] <attunix> tigeroar:
[02:21] <kerry> Ditte_: so your resolution came back then
[02:21] <filemover> k
[02:21] <attunix> tigeroar: #kubuntu-cn
[02:21] <Ditte_> hey, it actually shows chinese characters. Cool
[02:21] <attunix> :)
[02:22] <filemover> might be something to do with one of the pins and the way your monitor was detected
[02:22] <tigeroar> attunix : thanks
[02:22] <Ditte_> kerry: yup, without beryl. Or corundum:)
[02:22] <attunix> !cn
[02:22] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:22] <tigeroar> OK
[02:22] <kerry> Ditte_: ho long u on linux?
[02:22] <attunix> tigeroar: #ubuntu-cn :P
[02:22] <Ditte_> filemover: I thought monitor and VGA card were independent, but, well, I'm a newbie
[02:23] <tigeroar> attunix,#ubuntu-cn
[02:23] <Ditte_> kerry: well, theoretically 1.5 years, but practically I have two OS, and usually use win2000
[02:23] <filemover> the monitor settings have to be detected for the X server to have the right screen resolution
[02:24] <filemover> i think they can be manually entered into the xorg.conf file but you have to have all of the info for your hardware
[02:24] <kerry> Ditte_: win 2000 why not xp get rid of 2000.and 1.5 years on linux and u dont know beryl or copiz?
[02:24] <Ditte_> filemover: wait a moment...does "nv" mean "no video" (and how does it think I can read it anyway?)
[02:24] <filemover> nv is the driver
[02:24] <kerry> Ditte_: nviadea
[02:25] <filemover> nv is the free version of nvidia
[02:25] <filemover> the linux version of nvidia
[02:25] <Ditte_> kerry: well, because my bf at the time had free copies of win2000 around his office. And no, never heard of either
[02:25] <Ditte_> filemover: oh. I though it meant not available
[02:26] <filemover> where are you seeing nv
[02:26] <filemover> in the kcontrol
[02:26] <filemover> in Kcontrol
[02:26] <Ditte_> filemover: in the system settings
[02:26] <filemover> yeah its the driver
[02:26] <filemover> you must be in hardware configuratiion
[02:26] <filemover> for the video
[02:27] <Ditte_> SS--->display-->hardware
[02:27] <filemover> yep
[02:27] <filemover> one sec ill see what ive got
[02:27] <Ditte_> now it sees the correct resolution, too:)
[02:27] <filemover> yeah its detected it right
[02:27] <Ditte_> oh, everything's fine...I like Linux again
[02:28] <Ditte_> I mean, one day it'll even let me see youtube and spare me 45 minutes of sweating every time I have to install Java on a new browser, and Ill even use it consistently:)
[02:28] <kerry> Ditte_: go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws to see wa beryl look like
[02:29] <davide84> hi, why when I try to change file associations kde don't save my choice?
[02:29] <filemover> did you click apply
[02:30] <filemover> that is very freaky
[02:30] <davide84> yes I have click on apply, but when I open the documents kde use the same applications!
[02:30] <filemover> ok
[02:30] <Ditte_> kerry: youtube doesn't work with 64-bit linux
[02:30] <filemover> right click on the file
[02:30] <filemover> select properties
[02:31] <filemover> in that window click on the tool button
[02:31] <RivaeAerya> How do i update to Kubuntu Gutsy? (in KDE)
[02:32] <filemover> in the bottom of that window should be a application prefference order
[02:32] <kerry> Ditte_: kubuntu 7.04?
[02:32] <filemover> select the move up or down button on the right to select the order of prefference
[02:32] <davide84> I have try also in this way, but kde don't remember my choise!
[02:33] <kerry> Ditte_: wa version of linux u running?
[02:33] <filemover> well it looks like you need help on a molecular level thats going to need more expertise than I can give at the momebt
[02:33] <filemover> moment
[02:34] <Ditte_> kerry: regardless...almost all embedded things don't work on 64 bits. I'm running Dapper Drake 64, anyhow
[02:34] <filemover> try and google arround about file association settings conig in kde
[02:34] <Jucato> !flash64
[02:34] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:34] <filemover> config
[02:35] <kerry> Ditte_: o.O
[02:35] <filemover> another thing is that your might have the wrong permissions on the files
[02:35] <kerry> Ditte_: why u dont upgrade?do u like using old os or something?
[02:35] <Jucato> (there's nspluginwrapper for flash)
[02:36] <davide84>
[02:36] <davide84> I want to change kate with scite for open  *. java files
[02:36] <filemover> you might have set the permissions as root and now as user you cant change the associations
[02:36] <filemover> try and do it as root instead
[02:36] <Jucato> davide84: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations. try to search for *.java or create a new file association for it
[02:37] <RivaeAerya> Guys, how do i update to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon in KDE?
[02:37] <jpatrick> !update
[02:37] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:37] <Jucato> RivaeAerya: what do you mean? Kubuntu  uses KDE
[02:37] <Jucato> aah ok sorry misread
[02:38] <Ditte_> kerry: what would the new one be?? I thought this was the latest
[02:38] <filemover> sudo aptitude upgrade
[02:38] <Jucato> RivaeAerya: the release notes for Gutsy RC (release candidate) over at http://kubuntu.org has some instructions
[02:38] <Ditte_> incidentally, how do I check my exact linux version?
[02:38] <zen> hello
[02:38] <Jucato> Ditte_: version of what? kernel? Kubuntu?
[02:38] <filemover> uname -r
[02:38] <Jucato> for the kernel ^^^^
[02:38] <Ditte_> jucato: kubuntu
[02:38] <filemover> uname -r   = kernel version
[02:38] <Jucato> lsb_release -a
[02:39] <Ditte_> very intuitive as usual:)
[02:39] <kerry> Ditte_: feisty 7.04 kubuntu.i know nothing about dapper never use it
[02:39] <Jucato> Dapper is version 6.06, the first LTS release
[02:39] <Ditte_> jucato: that's what I have
[02:40] <Jucato> yep. read that. just explaining to kerry
[02:40] <Ditte_> kerry: all right, I'm one Linux in the past...but I really don't feel like reinstalling the whole OS
[02:41] <kerry> Jucato: cant he just upgrade to feisty?