[08:48] <JamesTait> Good morning, and happy Equal Pay Day! :-D
[15:54] <kamidi> i bought track from ubuntu music store but i didn't get 6 months streaming + 20gb package... is here anyone who can help?
[15:56] <dobey> chaselivingston, joshuahoover, beuno: ^^
[15:56] <chaselivingston> kamidi: Hi, could you submit the form at http://one.ubuntu.com/support/contact  so we can get some more information from you?
[15:56] <kamidi> chaselivingston: sure thing
[16:11] <kamidi> chaselivingston: i submitted support form but i couldn't provide more information besides my email of course
[16:11] <chaselivingston> kamidi: that works, i'll take a look
[16:12] <kamidi> chaselivingston: thank you
[16:43] <kamidi> chaselivingston: i read your reply. yes, i thought it might it, but then again.. there shouldn't be any advertising of extra space and streaming for people who aren't eligible to get it even if they buy something
[16:44] <chaselivingston> kamidi: thanks, we try to make it clear that it's only available once, sorry for the misunderstanding
[16:46] <kamidi> chaselivingston: yes, i understand. however, texts like this should not be viewed for people who already had their free 6 months: "You are currently not subscribed to Ubuntu One Music Streaming, but if you buy any track from the Music Store now, you get Music Streaming + 20 GB storage free for 6 months"
[16:46] <chaselivingston> kamidi: thanks, we'll look into that
[16:47] <kamidi> chaselivingston: thank you for your help. i just have to buy subscription then :)


[05:38] <Takyoji> The new theme works for Drupal 7.0, or hasn't been thoroughly tested for it yet, or?
[05:44] <Takyoji> Or anything I could poke at; considering I haven't contributed at all? :P
[05:44] <Takyoji> I suppose I could make forum themes


[07:05] <torlok2002> this is about changing the file/folder permissions of  /MF
[07:05] <setite> dude you gave me a suggestion and jetted.. i dont know what you meant
[07:05] <setite> tech dont get quite now
[07:05] <setite> agrajag
[07:05] <setite> ogra
[07:05] <setite> techn9ne
[07:06] <setite> im hoping the yellow wakes you up
[07:06] <torlok2002> hello? anyone know about changing folder/file permissions??? I know someone has too...
[07:06] <[Phaedrus] > Hey guys... anyone had any luck making a SM56 Modem work with Ubuntu? I cant switch to ubuntu till i get my Modem/internet working
[07:06] <paulproteus> torlok2002: Yes, I do.  Do you have a question?
[07:06] <no0tic> torlok2002: man chmod
[07:07] <setite> torlock like in windows
[07:07] <setite> right click and select properties
[07:07] <ubuntu-noob> OK guys, I'm giving up and going back to Fedora.  I'll get a CD in the mail and see if that works.
[07:07] <setite> permissions tab
[07:07] <torlok2002> i have man'ed chmod
[07:07] <paulproteus> torlok2002: Right-click and hit properties; that should be easy enough.
[07:07] <stuNNed_> ogra_, if cpu is constant at 50% and xorg is the process then it's most probably the nvidia drivers?
[07:07] <wezzer> oh, still haven't got my ubuntu cd's
[07:07] <setite> ubuntu-noob - sorry i cant help... im too new to all this
[07:07] <ubuntu-noob> NP
[07:07] <ubuntu-noob> Its a retarded hardware problem
[07:07] <torlok2002> but i dont have root permissions.. and cannot login as root from the login screen into a GUI
[07:07] <[Phaedrus] > ubuntu-noob: Fedora mails free cds?
[07:07] <ubuntu-noob> Nope
[07:08] <setite> yea
[07:08] <paulproteus> torlok2002: What file do you want to change permissions of?
[07:08] <setite> phaedrus yes
[07:08] <setite> as many as you want
[07:08] <ubuntu-noob> I have the fedora cds already
[07:08] <setite> takes about a decade though
[07:08] <setite> but you cant expect free to be fast
[07:08] <torlok2002> ' /MF
[07:08] <paulproteus> torlok2002: Basically: "Be specific so we can *actually help you*!" ;)
[07:08] <torlok2002> i'm trying...
[07:08] <ubuntu-noob> anyway, thanks guys
[07:08] <paulproteus> What file?  What docs have you read?  What page are you reading?  What line confuses you?  What have you tried?
[07:09] <paulproteus> And what, in the grand scheme of things, are you trying to do?
[07:09] <[Phaedrus] > i agree setite
[07:09] <paulproteus> You're not changing permissions for the sake of it, probably.
[07:10] <unperson> Well, I guess I should compile the newest version of beep (newer than Ubuntu's) before I complain.  Could be fixed.
[07:10] <paulproteus> unperson: Can you try grabbing beep from Ubuntu Hoary?
[07:10] <paulproteus> That's likely to be the latest version.
[07:11] <[Phaedrus] > what is beep?
[07:11] <torlok2002> I set up a partition that is mounted as /Mf and I'm moving all my saved documents to it, but am unable to write to it with the current logged in user
[07:11] <SpaceNuts> how can I do a integrity check of the install cd before starting the base install?
[07:11] <paulproteus> torlok2002: *Oh*!
[07:11] <paulproteus> What filesystem is it?
[07:11] <torlok2002> ext3
[07:11] <setite> anyoen know how i can select my monitor
[07:11] <unperson> paulproteus, Hmm...no idea.
[07:11] <setite> and where ogra went
[07:11] <unperson> paulproteus, I can try.  Is there a good way to get the deb without adding the whole repository to my sources.list?
[07:11] <paulproteus> torlok2002: Then, I suggest doing this:
[07:12] <torlok2002> I've got samba installed and plan to share it from here, rather than my winxp home box
[07:12] <paulproteus> In a terminal, do: cd /Mf ; sudo chown {username} .
[07:13] <SpaceNuts> cya
[07:13] <paulproteus> unperson: Try browsing http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[07:14] <paulproteus> unperson: To me, the easiest thing to do is add the repositories to sources.list ; and then install the package.
[07:16] <unperson> paulproteus, Probably true.  I just have to remember how to tell apt not to try to upgrade everything to hoary.
[07:16] <ish> In Warty, I installed syslog-ng from universe.. It removed ubuntu-base.. Any issues with that?
[07:16] <paulproteus> unperson: On the command line?
[07:16] <paulproteus> torlok2002: Did you get my instruction?  I can give you an even easier one, actually.
[07:17] <paulproteus> torlok2002: The idea is to change the ownership of the filesystem to that user.
[07:17] <torlok2002> "$ sudo chown sentinal" I get "chown: too few arguments"
[07:17] <unperson> paulproteus, Well, I'll mess with it and see if I can figure it out.  Thanks.
[07:17] <no0tic> cups problem solved!
[07:17] <no0tic> :)
[07:17] <paulproteus> torlok2002: You missed the final '.' .
[07:17] <paulproteus> torlok2002: That signifies "this directory".
[07:18] <paulproteus> You could replace that with "/Mf", as in "sudo chown sentinal /Mf " , now that I think about it.
[07:18] <paulproteus> no0tic: Quickly, what was wrong and how'd you fix it?
[07:19] <no0tic> I had to change /etc/cups/client.conf: uncommented ServerName line and changed it to the correct server name
[07:19] <no0tic> Before I was searching for a local server that wasn't listening
[07:20] <no0tic> instead of calling the remote one where printers are installed
[07:20] <paulproteus> no0tic: Ah.
[07:20] <ogra> stuNNed_: sounds likely.....
[07:21] <torlok2002> thank you very much paulproteus, I had messed with that command but could never get it to work.
[07:21] <paulproteus> torlok2002: You're welcome. :)
[07:21] <torlok2002> copying files now...
[07:22] <torlok2002> I lost a lot of data when one of my HDD's lost its mind a couple weeks ago, so i figure i should have a backup of all of it somewhere
[07:23] <unperson> Ok, in synaptic does the Settings->Prefs->Expert Distribution default archive setting select which is the default distro?
[07:23] <setite> hey is there an arial or times new roman font
[07:23] <setite> im not used to the font opera is using
[07:24] <unperson> So that after setting this I can add hoary repositories without automatically upgrading every packge from there?
[07:24] <paulproteus> setite: It should be in the package msttcorefonts .
[07:24] <calamari> setite: I pulled those fonts from Windows, but they don't work 100% right because Windows has bold/italic, etc versions of theme
[07:24] <paulproteus> unperson: Looks like it to me.
[07:24] <paulproteus> unperson: If I were you, now that the sources.list was there, I'd quickly on the command-line, do:
[07:24] <paulproteus> apt-get install that_one_package_I_wanted
[07:24] <paulproteus> and then comment them out again in fear. ;)
[07:25] <calamari> setite: it seems like half the webpages out there change the font on you anyways.  Check it out sometime, quite amazing
[07:25] <unperson> paulproteus, Heh.  But thankfully apt asks before installing/upgrading.
[07:26] <unperson> paulproteus, Otherwise I'd agree.
[07:26] <paulproteus> paulproteus: Well, then you don't have to comment them out if you don't want.
[07:27] <paulproteus> But the fear remains with me. ;)
[07:27] <setite> calamari do you know where i can select my monitor
[07:27] <setite> i know fedora had it... and so did windows.... i dont know where it is on ubuntu
[07:27] <calamari> setite: nope, I only have one monitor
[07:28] <unperson> paulproteus, Probably best when giving others advice.  ;-)
[07:28] <liquidghondi> what videocard are you using?
[07:29] <setite> ok found a legible font
[07:30] <calamari> I'd like to get a projector someday.. no $ is always the problem
[07:30] <unperson> paulproteus, Hmm...that didn't work quite right.  But I know there's a way to do this.
[07:30] <setite> i love my projector
[07:30] <paulproteus> unperson: "It should have."  What did it do instead?
[07:30] <paulproteus> (If it's a lot of text, feel free to /msg me.)
[07:31] <ogra> unperson: better post it to #flood, so we all can see and help.....
[07:31] <setite> ogra!!!!
[07:31] <unperson> paulproteus, Well, I added a hoary repository, set that distribution setting to warty, then reloaded my package list and selected upgrades.  All of a sudden I had a ton of upgrades that weren't there a minute before.
[07:31] <setite> your back to save me :)
[07:32] <setite> im drowning here man...
[07:32] <unperson> I was using synaptic, so there wasn't a lot to post.
[07:32] <ogra> setite: i'm not really sure about that...... do you think there is something to save ?
[07:32] <ogra> *g*
[07:32] <setite> yes u believe there is
[07:32] <setite> i+
[07:32] <setite> i**
[07:33] <ogra> setite: ok....if _you_ tell me....ten it must be true *g*
[07:33] <unperson> Hmm...I know there's a way to make it so it won't upgrade from them unless you do apt-get -t distro install....but I don't remember how.
[07:33] <ogra> +h
[07:33] <unperson> And I've never done it with synaptic.  I was hoping it would be easier.
[07:33] <paulproteus> unperson: apt-get install package/distro
[07:33] <setite> i dont get the *g* thing... moving on... ok i ran that one command that you told me to and went through everything... what now
[07:33] <paulproteus> Wait, that's the opposite of what you want.
[07:34] <setite> and on a side note
[07:34] <ogra> unperson: you have to use pinning to make this work in a sne way....but that requires high skills of apt knowledge
[07:34] <unperson> paulproteus, The point is that it looked as though it wanted to upgrade from hoary by default, which I do NOT want.
[07:34] <ogra> setite: *g* = grin, *G* = BIG grin
[07:35] <format-c-colon> hey all
[07:35] <setite> can i msg you
[07:35] <unperson> ogra, You think?  Yeah, I really don't want to mess with that.
[07:35] <unperson> I'll just download the source and compile it.
[07:35] <ogra> unperson: so just leave hoary.....
[07:35] <unperson> source of the app in question
[07:35] <ogra> unperson: yep, thats he best way
[07:35] <paulproteus> unperson: One more thing I'd like you try, if you can:
[07:35] <ogra> unperson: which app btw ?
[07:35] <unperson> ogra, beep media player.
[07:35] <paulproteus> Quit Synaptic.  sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:35] <unperson> paulproteus, Shoot.
[07:36] <paulproteus> (or whate'r's the package name.)
[07:36] <setite> whats the command to get a window when messaging... is not /msg
[07:36] <ogra> setite: if you did anything like fabbione told you, you just have to restart the X server
[07:36] <setite> i restarted
[07:36] <Linuxnoob> can you guys give me some help?  I posted in ubuntuforums.org and am not getting any help
[07:36] <setite> with CTRL+ALT+BKSP
[07:36] <unperson> paulproteus, Ok, you mean with hoary repository added.
[07:36] <ogra> unperson: why dont you use wartys package ?
[07:36] <paulproteus> unperson: Precisely.
[07:36] <paulproteus> Linuxnoob: Maybe.  Ask your question, and see if we answer.
[07:36] <setite> and i have no more resolutions available now then i did then
[07:36] <setite> setite@ubuntu:~/dripkg $ sudo sh install.sh
[07:36] <setite> Password:
[07:36] <setite> DIRECT RENDERING OPEN SOURCE PROJECT  -  DRIVER INSTALLATION SCRIPT
[07:36] <setite> [ http://dri.sourceforge.net ]
[07:36] <Linuxnoob> I have a sony vaio laptop with a conexant 56k modem
[07:36] <setite> [07:37] <TheSnowMan> anyone up for an question about fetchmail, inboxmonitor and evolution mail...
[07:37] <setite> Welcome to the DRI Driver Installation Script
[07:37] <setite> The package you downloaded is for the following driver:
[07:37] <setite> Driver Name    : gdg
[07:37] <setite> Description    : Intel 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G/GDG Driver
[07:37] <ogra> setite: hey
[07:37] <setite> Architecture   : I386
[07:37] <setite> Build Date     : 20040426
[07:37] <setite> Kernel Module  : gdg
[07:37] <setite> Optional Information
[07:37] <unperson> ogra, You missed the earlier conversation.  There's an apparent bug in the version in warty.  I wanted to see if it was still there in the latest version before complaining to the project.
[07:37] <ogra> setite: you are in the channel !!!!
[07:37] <Linuxnoob> i did a sudu pppconfig
[07:37] <setite> Driver Version      :
[07:37] <setite> Special Description :
[07:37] <setite> Press ENTER to continue or CTRL-C to exit.
[07:37] <setite> DIRECT RENDERING OPEN SOURCE PROJECT  -  DRIVER INSTALLATION SCRIPT
[07:37] <setite> [ http://dri.sourceforge.net ]
[07:37] <setite> [07:37] <setite> Select from the following options:
[07:38] <no0tic> Larges pastes at  http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:38] <setite>   1. Install driver (default)
[07:38] <no0tic> Larges pastes at  http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:38] <unperson> paulproteus, Hold on a sec.
[07:38] <setite>   2. Uninstall driver
[07:38] <paulproteus> setite: Please be quiet.  You're rudely loud.
[07:38] <setite> Enter reponse [1-2] , or CTRL-C to exit
[07:38] <no0tic> Larges pastes at  http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:38] <setite> 1
[07:38] <no0tic> Larges pastes at  http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:38] <paulproteus> unperson: Okay.
[07:38] <no0tic> Larges pastes at  http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:38] <ogra> unperson: ah, ok..... then recompile, but it may need deps from hoary.....
[07:38] <Shimonn> my ethernet card doesn't work (as described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9860 ) but works with ubuntu's live cd. should i install a 2.6.7 kernel (used by the live cd)
[07:38] <setite> DIRECT RENDERING OPEN SOURCE PROJECT  -  DRIVER INSTALLATION SCRIPT
[07:38] <setite> [ http://dri.sourceforge.net ]
[07:38] <no0tic> setite
[07:38] <setite> [07:38] <no0tic> setite Larges pastes at  http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:38] <setite> The script will now compile the agpgart module and DRM kernel modules
[07:38] <ogra> setite: HEY
[07:38] <setite> for your machine.
[07:38] <ogra> !
[07:39] <setite> Press ENTER to continue or CTRL-C to exit.
[07:39] <setite> Compiling new agpgart module...
[07:39] <setite> ERROR: AGPGART module did not compile
[07:39] <setite> Compiling DRM module...
[07:39] <setite> ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile
[07:39] <setite> The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[07:39] <no0tic> kick him!
[07:39] <setite> Installation will be aborted.  P L E A S E
[07:39] <setite> setite@ubuntu:~/dripkg $
[07:39] <lilubu> or something :/
[07:39] <setite> wtf... i put /msg first
[07:39] <scizzo> setite: please stop flooding
[07:39] <setite> oh ok it worked i think
[07:39] <setite> i mean the msging
[07:39] <setite> shoor
[07:39] <setite> i tried to msg you
[07:39] <setite> i put "/msg ogra <text>"
[07:39] <setite> dont say it again
[07:39] <setite> hey i used /msg... i thought it'd work... shit happens
[07:39] <setite> i si stopped... once i do it i cant stop it
[07:40] <Linuxnoob> here is the forum link with all the info - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9926
[07:40] <paulproteus> setite: That must be done per-line.
[07:40] <paulproteus> Oh, well. ;)
[07:40] <setite> i tried to message him... and it didnt work
[07:40] <scizzo> setite: look again..you will see one line msged to him in that case
[07:40] <ogra> setite: use the ubuntu modules....
[07:40] <no0tic> setite: at least open a query with him...
[07:41] <Shimonn> where to download deb files for older kernel ?
[07:41] <ogra> setite: the one line you msgd me: <setite> setite@ubuntu:~ $ cd /home/setite/dripkg
[07:41] <TheSnowMan> anyone know anything about fetchmail?
[07:41] <setite> yea i will in future... im just used to using /msg
[07:41] <no0tic> brb
[07:42] <ogra> setite: and as i said.....use the ubuntu modules....i cant guess what and how you compiled what you compiled there.....
[07:42] <Shimonn> where are ubuntu's archives ? (i mean an url to download deb files)
[07:42] <setite> i didnt compile it
[07:42] <setite> i downloaded the driver from intel
[07:42] <ogra> archive.ubuntu.com
[07:42] <Shimonn> thx
[07:43] <paulproteus> Shimonn: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu :)
[07:43] <setite> already compiled
[07:43] <ogra> setite: it obviously tried to compile dri and agpgart....follow the instructions of the manufacturer if you urgently want external drivers
[07:43] <setite> ogra - that was the method that i tried with nomasteryoda
[07:43] <setite> i just want higher resolutions
[07:44] <setite> any method is fine :)
[07:44] <ogra> setite: but i cant help you there...
[07:44] <setite> but i used the the command you gave me earlier
[07:44] <unperson> paulproteus, Well, this looks like it would work, except that it depends on a bunch of DLLs from hoary.
[07:44] <setite> went through it all and then restarted x
[07:44] <setite> but i have no more choices
[07:44] <ogra> setite: if you never touched your X config manually the method of fabionne should have worked...
[07:44] <setite> ive never touched it
[07:44] <setite> tech9ne said something abotu having to select my monitor... i dont know how to do that
[07:45] <unperson> paulproteus, probably best not to mess with this.
[07:45] <Shimonn> witch kernel to use with AMD Athlon XP proc ? "k7" ?
[07:45] <unperson> Thanks for your help paulproteus and ogra.  Later.
[07:45] <ogra> setite: it is done automatically.... all you can do is adjust the settings with the dpkg-reconfigure command....
[07:46] <setite> ok should i try suo dpkg -reconfigure?
[07:46] <Linuxnoob> anyone have any suggestions for me and my modem?
[07:46] <setite> sudo dpkg -reconfigure?
[07:46] <ogra> Linuxnoob: the driver you compiled is loaded ?
[07:46] <setite> sudo dpkg- reconfigure?
[07:47] <ogra> setite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[07:47] <setite> sudo dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:47] <Linuxnoob> drive I compiled?
[07:47] <ogra> setite: or for more options: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86
[07:47] <setite> ok im doing it now
[07:48] <Linuxnoob> I haven't compiled anything - no clue
[07:48] <setite> without the plow
[07:48] <sensebend> Linuxnoob, install build-essential
[07:48] <wezzer-> can somebody tell me, why there is no compiler in ubuntu by default?
[07:48] <ogra> Linuxnoob: conexant uses special drivers, they refuse to open the specs that would be needed for a open source one, so you have to use theirs
[07:48] <Linuxnoob> how would I use theirs?
[07:48] <Appolonius> hi again :) ive just burnt the ubuntu live cd, used it, but i cant seem to connect to the internet is there anyone who can help?
[07:49] <Linuxnoob> man conexant sucks :)
[07:49] <sensebend> wezzer, because they figured most end users won't use it
[07:49] <ogra> Linuxnoob: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto there are some instructions if you scroll down....
[07:49] <setite> ok ogra im through all that
[07:49] <setite> restart x?
[07:50] <sensebend> and I believe it was the correct choice
[07:50] <setite> or should i restart the whole pc
[07:50] <ogra> setite: what did you adjust ?
[07:50] <Linuxnoob> I really am looking forward to getting way from MS
[07:50] <sensebend> those who need it will be able to get it on their own
[07:50] <setite> nothing i didnt do last time
[07:50] <setite> at the last part i selected every resolution in the list
[07:50] <wezzer> sensebend: well yea, but it isn't many megabytes what it takes
[07:50] <ogra> setite: so what changes would you expect then ?
[07:50] <setite> fattione said hit enter a whole bunch of times
[07:51] <setite> and change the video memory to 4096
[07:51] <carambol> i try to install jre2...but problem with the "cd" commoand
[07:51] <sensebend> they need to be careful what packages they include by default to keep the install down to 1 CD
[07:51] <Appolonius> I was told if i have a pppoet connection that ubuntu dont autoconfig and i needed to manualy config can anyone help?
[07:51] <setite> i dont expect changes... but i dont know what i did wrong last time... i did what he told me
[07:51] <ogra> Linuxnoob: its not that easy..... thanks to companys like ati, nvidia or conexant.....
[07:51] <Appolonius> this is my first try into linux from windows
[07:51] <carambol> cd jre-1_5_0_01-i586.bin
[07:51] <ogra> carambol: install te ubuntu package
[07:52] <ogra> the
[07:52] <carambol> this is not a direct or file
[07:52] <techn9ne> Appolonius, soon as you figure it out youll never go back
[07:52] <carambol> with synaptic
[07:52] <techn9ne> no viruses, no spyware, no defragging ... it just works
[07:52] <ogra> carambol: method 0 there: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[07:52] <Appolonius> techn9ne: I hope so, but if i cant connect to internet its not much use :(
[07:52] <carambol> where i find i...is use the ubuntu-guide
[07:52] <lilubu> Apponoious i think the mentioned ppoeconf
[07:52] <lilubu> they
[07:52] <ogra> carambol: use the wiki
[07:52] <setite> ogra what changes should i make
[07:53] <no0tic> re
[07:53] <sensebend> carambol, http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:53] <carambol> and the smae prob witk realpl10Gold
[07:53] <ogra> setite: adjust Hsync and Vsync exactly for your monitor
[07:53] <setite> what if i dont know those
[07:53] <setite> am i SOL?
[07:53] <sensebend> what model is your monitor?
[07:53] <techn9ne> Appolonius, dialup or broadband?
[07:54] <setite> envision
[07:54] <setite> 775e i think
[07:54] <setite> thats what linux finds it to be
[07:54] <setite> should i google it
[07:54] <ogra> carambol: for most information the wiki is more reliable....it gets reviewed by developers....
[07:54] <carambol> ok
[07:54] <ogra> setite: it is most likely in the handbook....
[07:54] <setite> dunno where that is
[07:55] <Appolonius> techn9ne: broadband
[07:55] <carambol> ubuntu is nice and very very fast
[07:55] <setite> i found the monitor specs on the net though
[07:55] <setite> Max Resolution	1280 x 1024 / 60 Hz
[07:55] <setite> Max Sync Rate (V x H)	160 Hz x 72 kHz
[07:55] <techn9ne> Appolonius, did it dtect your ehternet card?
[07:55] <techn9ne> type ifconfig eth0
[07:56] <Appolonius> i know nothing about linux.. sorry or where yo look for that
[07:56] <no0tic> what kernel do I must install with an AthlonXP? I found two discording answers
[07:56] <ogra> setite: so make sure the X config has the right ones
[07:56] <Appolonius> techn9ne: i would have to reboot to go back to it
[07:56] <ogra> no0tic: k7
[07:56] <setite> ok
[07:57] <ogra> setite: you must specify a range there.....
[07:57] <setite> shoot... i dont know the lowest
[07:58] <no0tic> ogra: I found in the forum: linux-686 for newer Intel/AthlonXP
[07:58] <Appolonius> techn9ne: ok.. where would i type that at?
[07:58] <no0tic> ogra: posted by ubuntu-geek, administrator
[07:58] <ogra> no0tic: k7 is compiled for newer amd 32 bit CPUs
[07:58] <sensebend> try 56 for the lowest refresh and 30 for the lowest sync
[07:59] <ogra> no0tic: so it is the right one ..... 686 is P2 P3 P4...
[07:59] <techn9ne> Appolonius, into command prompt
[07:59] <Appolonius> ok
[07:59] <Appolonius> brb
[07:59] <techn9ne> see what it says... if it gives you info about your network card or not
[07:59] <setite> ok found the manual
[07:59] <ogra> no0tic: k6 is pre athlon/duron
[08:00] <no0tic> ogra: I agree with you.. so why in the forum they're telling something else?
[08:00] <ogra> no0tic: dunno, i never read forums :)
[08:00] <setite> what do i use for pdf?
[08:01] <ogra> they dont get hit by phpbb worms :)
[08:01] <sensebend> setite, either xpdf or acrobat reader
[08:01] <ogra> setite: try a doubleclick
[08:02] <setite> oh yea i need to install w32 codes
[08:02] <setite> sudo -i w32.deb right
[08:02] <ogra> setite: what for ?
[08:02] <setite> i dunno why not
[08:02] <setite> some music vids no workie
[08:03] <ogra> setite: you missed a dpkg there.....
[08:03] <setite> yea i realized when it said illegal action
[08:03] <sensebend> setite, after you have Marrilot's repo sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:04] <setite> yea i downloaded the file
[08:04] <setite> he has his own repo?
[08:04] <setite> i just downloaded the fiel
[08:04] <ogra> sensebend: you shouldnt suggest marillat, its badly broken
[08:05] <ogra> sensebend: the dependencys dont match anymore for warty since some weeks.....
[08:05] <liN\arP> anyone in here which can help me set up fetchmail and inbox monitor?
[08:05] <sensebend> on the w32codecs package?
[08:05] <sensebend> I know the mplayer repos on there are horribly broken now :)
[08:06] <setite> ok well i need divx i think
[08:06] <ogra> sensebend: nope, on all the rest... but to avoid confusion the manual install of w32codecs is far better.....
[08:07] <setite> well i installed it and my videos still dont work
[08:07] <setite> so i assume they are in divx....
[08:08] <ogra> setite: what player so you use ?
[08:08] <ogra> do
[08:08] <setite> ummmm...
[08:08] <setite> it auto-opens with toem
[08:08] <setite> totem*
[08:09] <paulproteus> setite: I suggest you follow the help on RestrictedFormats on the wiki and use totem-xine.
[08:09] <ogra> setite: ahh... install the totem-xine package then....it uses the w32codecs.....
[08:09] <setite> yes milord
[08:10] <ucblockhead> Anyone else have a problem where XMMS hangs every time you try to play something (flac or mp3)?
[08:10] <setite> is there a better media player for videos?
[08:10] <techn9ne> i use totem
[08:10] <setite> it looks like win95 media player
[08:10] <paulproteus> setite: Me, too, after switching to totem-xine.
[08:10] <techn9ne> yea totem-xine
[08:11] <techn9ne> reg. xine is good too
[08:11] <setite> ok so totem-xine is an actual proggy... not drivers
[08:11] <setite> i mean codecs and stuff
[08:11] <setite> k
[08:11] <kagou> i'm playing with grub install problem on AMD64 :(  I don't understand why installer freeze, and under the console and after a chroot grub-install works ?!
[08:12] <ogra> kagou: what filesystem do you use ?
[08:12] <setite> where did it go
[08:12] <techn9ne> not sure if totem-xine is a plugin for totem or totem w/ xine engine
[08:12] <setite> damnit brb
[08:12] <sensebend> techn9ne, I'm not sure either
[08:13] <sensebend> I use gxine mostly though :)
[08:13] <techn9ne> it plays everything though and doesnt hassle me
[08:13] <ogra> techn9ne: totem-xine just changes totems backend from gstreamer to xine
[08:13] <ucblockhead> Or perhaps I should ask: has anyone gotten XMMS to successfully work?
[08:13] <spikeb> heh
[08:13] <techn9ne> i got xmms to work
[08:13] <spikeb> i haven't even tried
[08:13] <sensebend> ucblockhead, I'm sure most of us have
[08:13] <paulproteus> techn9ne: It's a different backend for totem.
[08:13] <techn9ne> apt-get install xmms
[08:13] <ucblockhead> It hangs for me on playback.  Rhythmbox and totem both play fine.
[08:14] <ogra> ucblockhead: the ubuntu package should just work fine...execpt for nvidia users.....thanks to nvidia there is a bug in the driver.....
[08:14] <paulproteus> ucblockhead: Try apt-get installing xmms-esd , the esound output plugin, and switching to the esound output driver in xmms.
[08:14] <lilubu> The following packages have been kept back:
[08:14] <lilubu>   hotplug linux-image-2.6-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6-386
[08:14] <lilubu> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[08:14] <techn9ne> xmms is pretty old
[08:14] <techn9ne> needs to be updated
[08:14] <paulproteus> ucblockhead: That "should" do the trick.
[08:14] <spikeb> lilubu, you need to dist-upgrade to get those upgraded
[08:14] <lilubu> why would that be held back from me ?
[08:14] <ucblockhead> paulproteus: thanks.  I'll give that a shot.
[08:15] <ogra> techn9ne: it already is..... there is beep
[08:15] <lilubu> does that make me run hoary ?
[08:15] <spikeb> lilubu, no
[08:15] <lilubu> ok
[08:17] <Ran> hello, why Flash play capacity is not included by default? (I already installed, but I want to know why is not standart component)
[08:18] <techn9ne> is beep any good i heard it wasnt
[08:18] <ucblockhead> paulproteus: thanks, that did it!
[08:19] <boo> Hello. I am having some wiered problems with OSS and ALSA drivers being loaded for the same sound card with Ubuntu 4.1
[08:19] <ogra> kagou: lets go on here,  because it belongs rather in this channel .... can you hit ctrl-alt-f3 to see if there are errors in the last lines ?
[08:19] <boo> can you help with the set of commands to verify whats hapennignto to the sound that does not come out of the card
[08:20] <boo> Ran: what is the debian package name for Flash player?
[08:20] <ogra> boo: which drivers are loaded wrong ? snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss are needed.....
[08:21] <kagou> ogra, "grub is already the newest version"
[08:21] <ogra> boo: any other oss drivers ?
[08:21] <ogra> kagou: hmm, looks not like an error......
[08:21] <Ran> boo: flashplayer-mozilla
[08:22] <kagou> ogra, no and under Alt-F4 no error
[08:22] <boo> ogra: sorry something came up ...will try to resume this in an hour if you are around ...thanks anyway
[08:22] <ogra> boo: k
[08:23] <ogra> kagou: i'm not sure which exactly is the error console....try f2 - f4 there should be a lot of msgs in one of them
[08:23] <kagou> no errors ogra
[08:24] <ogra> kagou: hmm..... at least there should be a list of the commands that were run....
[08:27] <ogra> kagou: what is the error you get i the installer screen ? hao long did you give grub to finish (how long did you wait ?)
[08:27] <ogra> how
[08:28] <kagou> ogra, too much
[08:28] <Appolonius> techn9ne: ok it said it cannot detect my ethernet
[08:28] <JoRock> how can I change my window manager from the default to something light weight?
[08:28] <ogra> kagou: heh, what is too much for you ?
[08:28] <kagou> with hoary (i386) i wait and after i came back automatically to menu not in amd64 version
[08:29] <kagou> now half an hour :p
[08:29] <Appolonius> techn9ne: DSL into westell modem into the ethernet on my motherboard is what i got
[08:30] <ogra> kagou: hmm, but the rest of the install went fine ?
[08:31] <kagou> the begining  yes
[08:31] <setite> hey ogra
[08:31] <setite> whats that command again
[08:31] <spikeb> Ran, because it's non-free - so they leave it out by default
[08:31] <kagou> after i switch to Alt+F2, mount /dev/hda3 under p
[08:31] <spikeb> Ran, same as with the binary drivers
[08:32] <kagou> do a chroot and grub-install , so update-grub and reboot
[08:32] <eurotrash> so does anyone know how to fix "ESR value before enabling vector: 00000002"
[08:32] <ogra> kagou: and that worked ?
[08:32] <eurotrash> I've looked on google and nothin, just people posting the problem
[08:32] <ogra> kagou: i.e. the system boots ?
[08:33] <etorix> kagou .. re-run grub
[08:33] <abelli> eurotrash: why that error'
[08:33] <ogra> setite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?
[08:33] <eurotrash> dunno, I'm trying to install and I get that
[08:33] <setite> yup
[08:33] <setite> thats it
[08:33] <setite> the xserver i couldnt remember
[08:33] <ogra> etorix: he already has......in a chroot.....
[08:34] <eurotrash> abelli: It goes through, checks my cpu and whatnot then gets stuck on that.  I can't even get to an install screen
[08:34] <kagou> ogra after the reboot, keyboard and locales are not configured
[08:34] <abelli> eurotrash: sorry i can't help
[08:34] <kagou> and the system is not installed
[08:34] <ogra> kagou: run base-config
[08:34] <etorix> hmm .. i had to run grub twice to get it to work ok
[08:34] <eurotrash> abelli: that's what I was afraid of...
[08:34] <ogra> kagou: that is normally the first thing run after the first reboot.....
[08:34] <eurotrash> has anyone come across this?  "ESR value before enabling vector: 00000002"
[08:35] <ogra> kagou: ....it does the second part of the install
[08:36] <kagou> thnx ogra
[08:36] <no0tic> re
[08:36] <eurotrash> Ogra:  you have any idea about this? "ESR value before enabling vector: 00000002"
[08:36] <ogra> eurotrash: looks like an apic thing.....
[08:36] <eurotrash> ogra: what do I do?
[08:37] <ogra> eurotrash: dunno....just looking at it
[08:37] <eurotrash> ogra: I've looked it up on google, and just find others with the problem.  I've tried updating bios and stuff and still the same prob
[08:38] <eurotrash> ogra: it happens when I boot with the cd and leading into install
[08:41] <kagou> ++
[08:42] <eurotrash> aight...heading back to work.  if anyone comes up with any Ideas...drop me a line
[08:42] <eurotrash> ESR value before enabling vector: 00000002
[08:42] <setite> ogra... ok well i found the ranges
[08:42] <setite> so what else do i do besides inputting them
[08:43] <felixdz> Back having another go at trying to get my webcam to work...
[08:43] <ogra> eurotrash: i dunno if there are any options you can give the installer on boot, but somethibng like nolapic should help
[08:43] <felixdz> with gnomemeeting.
[08:43] <ogra> setite: nothing....restart the X server
[08:43] <setite> hmmm... will that work... i mean using the default ranges did nothing
[08:44] <setite> oh yea
[08:44] <setite> what is 64megs in kb
[08:44] <felixdz> Tried xawtv got this message can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[08:44] <felixdz> Wierd because lsusb shows my webcam
[08:44] <ogra> felixdz: you need te right module for your camera and the videodev module
[08:45] <setite> fattione or whatever his name was told me to check the video memory in the bios... its 64
[08:45] <kebac> setite: it's 64MB
[08:45] <setite> but it wants that in kb
[08:45] <felixdz> thanks ogra whats the best plan for getting the right module.
[08:45] <felixdz> Google?
[08:45] <kebac> setite: why
[08:45] <setite> 65536
[08:45] <adam_> can someone help me install java vm on ubuntu
[08:46] <setite> shit how would i know.. it wants it that way... ask ubuntu
[08:46] <kebac> setite: there is a difference in MB and Mb
[08:46] <setite> KB
[08:46] <setite> K
[08:46] <adam_> can someone help me install java vm on ubuntu
[08:46] <kebac> setite: also a difference with KB and Kb
[08:46] <davmor2> ogra you still about
[08:46] <setite> well 64megs is not 64000 kb
[08:47] <setite> ogra - do i use kernel framebuffer?
[08:47] <kebac> setite: definitely not
[08:47] <ogra> davmor2: with half an eye......
[08:47] <adam_> can some one help me install java vm on ubuntu
[08:47] <setite> kebac - i know there is a difference
[08:47] <kebac> setite: you say 64 000KB. but since MB consists of 1024KB:s, it is 65536KB
[08:47] <setite> oh i see the confusiong
[08:47] <setite> i didnt mention that the 64 was mb
[08:48] <setite> so you were answering that... ok
[08:48] <setite> yea i know the 1024 thing too
[08:48] <setite> but i dont know how to make this video work
[08:48] <kebac> setite: no, usually video memory is expressed as MB:s
[08:48] <kebac> setite: MB = megabytes, Mb = megabits
[08:48] <setite> anyone know if i should use kernel framebuffer
[08:48] <setite> oh i see what you mean
[08:48] <setite> i dont specify that
[08:48] <Mabus> erm.. I need some help installing *ahem* WinXP. heh. I need to use 3rd party RAID drivers, but I don't have a floppy drive; how can I make the installer/setup look at the CDD for drivers instead of the FD?
[08:48] <kebac> setite: i have never seen anywhere video memories as bits
[08:48] <setite> mb is megabytes to me... i never talk abotu bits
[08:49] <davmor2> ogra finally found out what the problem was with the boot up the kernel that comes with 64bit version is  ...........-04 the modified glx-nvidia kernel is ..........-03 so by default grub installs the highest
[08:49] <Mabus> (it's not my computer, so I can't choose what to install)
[08:49] <kebac> setite: you should start talking...
[08:49] <setite> nah.. never need to discuss megabits, kilobits and bits
[08:49] <kebac> setite: except when talking about network
[08:49] <setite> kebac do you know if i need to use kernel frambuffering
[08:49] <kebac> setite: i dont
[08:49] <setite> yea but i still never talk abotu them...
[08:49] <setite> ok
[08:50] <setite> hmmm next tiem around ill say yes if this doesnt work
[08:50] <ogra> davmor2: ah, good to know...i ordered a 64bit machine with nvidia inside yesterday....thanks for reporting...so you got it working ?
[08:50] <kebac> setite: to avoid confusion you really should use correct units...
[08:51] <davmor2> ogra new problem now though trying to run doom3 it changes my resolution freezes up my mouse and crashes out but I can't properly see what the problem is where would there be a log for it
[08:51] <setite> ah bahumbug... if the person i speak to can't tell i will end the conversation
[08:52] <ogra> davmor2: either in /var/log/XFree86.0.log or in ~/.xsession-errors
[08:52] <davmor2> ogra But neverwinter nights has never run so well
[08:52] <ogra> heh
[08:52] <ogra> davmor2: probably doom3 specific.....
[08:54] <ericf> I have a multimedia (yes, unsupported) problem with a specific video: I can hear the audio with totem (no video, can't see any divx with totem), see the video with xine (no audio, other files work with a&v), and no audio nor video in mplayer (although other files work fine). I installed xine-ui, gmplayer and w32codecs as described by ubuntuguide.org... Any ideas how to merge the audio from totem and video from xine?
[08:54] <setite> dont take this wrong ogra
[08:54] <davmor2> ogra doom3 on windows is cpu and memory intensive in linux 32bit ran smooth as nut on my nvidia 128 5900 card and people said they were struggling with it inwindows
[08:54] <setite> but i think i love you
[08:54] <setite> ;)
[08:54] <setite> it worked....
[08:54] <setite> the key was manually selecting the resolution... not ranges or shit like that
[08:55] <setite> or it could have been enabling framebuffer
[08:55] <setite> 60 hz seems to flicker a bit though
[08:56] <davmor2> ericf if you have installed mplayer just start it up and select the file should run sweet as a nut
[08:58] <ericf> davmor2: Yes, I can use mplayer, and all files work, except this one
[08:58] <ericf> it shows no audio, no video
[08:58] <ericf> it does show single frames though, when i scroll the video with <- and ->
[08:59] <davmor2> ericf only other thing to do is install video4linux i think it is hang on and I'll check for you
[09:00] <occy> upgrading to hoary.
[09:00] <setite> now im empty
[09:00] <setite> i have nothing to fix on linux
[09:00] <occy> setite, heh
[09:00] <setite> with fedora i never had a period like this
[09:01] <ericf> davmor2: I don't know... It looks like all the data is IN the file, and they can both be read... But not by the same program.
[09:01] <occy> setite, BreakYourUbuntu!
[09:01] <davmor2> ericf divx4linux and mencoder are recommended for divx and xvid playback
[09:01] <occy> heh
[09:01] <felixdz> For logitech webcams is it qc-usb?
[09:02] <felixdz> I get  sudo modprobe qc-usb
[09:02] <felixdz> FATAL: Module qc_usb not found.
[09:02] <davmor2> ericf and thats by mplayer
[09:02] <ericf> davmor2: ah, i see they're in multiverse. I'll try them
[09:03] <occy> man, why do all gnome themes have to suck?
[09:03] <setite> how would i go about getting ffmpeg
[09:03] <occy> setite, apt-cache search ffmpeg
[09:03] <sladen> apt-get
[09:03] <davmor2> occy I got loads off bittorrent
[09:03] <occy> setite, and then find out what the latest is... and then apt-get install it.
[09:03] <setite> i have a mission to prove linux superiority to overclock.net by comparing ffmpeg on ubuntu and on winxp
[09:04] <occy> davmor2, loads of sucky gnome themes?
[09:04] <occy> davmor2, :)
[09:04] <ericf> davmor2: No luck. But that's for encoding... How is it relevant?
[09:04] <occy> davmor2, art.gnome.org  in case you haven't seen it.
[09:05] <setite> setite@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-cache search ffmpeg
[09:05] <setite> Password:
[09:05] <setite> gstreamer0.8-misc - Collection of various GStreamer plugins
[09:05] <setite> i need an encoding program... thats not right
[09:05] <setite> should i just google it
[09:05] <Appolonius> can anyone help with my network problem? im using pppoe i went threw the pppoeconf wizard and it said i was connected but i wasnt
[09:05] <ericf> davmor2: now, something I did broke the xine video output as well... :)
[09:06] <davmor2> ericf no idea I'm trying to install from sratch so I can play w32codec on a 64bit machine so I just downloaded everthing on the list
[09:06] <bassinboy> i can't get my ubuntu grub entry to work :(
[09:06] <davmor2> ericf exactly what is the file
[09:07] <jdodson> anyone got nat working in ubuntu?
[09:07] <ericf> It's an .avi file from 'A Clockwork Orange'
[09:07] <ericf> davmor2: a bit to big to mail it to you
[09:08] <ericf> jdodson: I got it working on debian, it requires a few simple commands and packages, which I forgot (try google). But today I saw firestarter, a gtk firewall frontend which looks nice. Try it, it has an option for nat.
[09:08] <davmor2> ericf some .avi files simply won't play if they have any sort of rights managment on them
[09:09] <jdodson> ericf: i did, except that it doesnt work.   i have dhcp setup, i wonder if it is configged wrong.
[09:09] <ericf> davmor2: Of course, but the audio works in totem and 30 minutes ago (I broke something) the video in xine
[09:10] <ericf> jdodson: you mean the computer that should do nat receives a lease from a dhcp server?
[09:11] <netmonk> Does anyone use Ubuntu on ibook or can someone point me to some kind of guide for installing warty on ibook?
[09:12] <felixdz> I seem to have pwc module and the videodev modules but gnomemeeting still doesn't detect my webcam
[09:12] <davmor2> ericf did you do all the plugins for gstreamer or just half if you take a look though synaptic there are two sets of gstreamer plugins highlight both
[09:14] <setite> how do i compile things
[09:14] <setite> ffmpeg comes in source
[09:14] <setite> sudo make
[09:14] <setite> sudo make install
[09:14] <setite> ?
[09:15] <occy> setite, you can try this:
[09:15] <occy> http://occy.net/node/64
[09:16] <davmor2> occy want some backdrops
[09:16] <occy> davmor2, naw, thanks though.
[09:16] <setite> ok?
[09:16] <setite> i dont get it
[09:16] <setite> apt-get build-dep APPLICATION
[09:16] <ericf> davmor2: I got all gstreamer stuff... But i'm a step backwards, I can't play the video in xine anymore. I think I'll just give up this file :-/
[09:16] <occy> yeah
[09:17] <occy> setite, apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[09:17] <setite> ok
[09:17] <Quest-Master> Even after me disabling ipv6, my Firefox is as slow as hell x_X
[09:17] <occy> setite, then, you should be able to compile that source you found.
[09:17] <davmor2> there fun and they brighten up any theme no matter how dull
[09:17] <setite> setite@ubuntu:~/ffmpeg-cvs-2004-11-10 $ sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[09:17] <setite> Reading Package Lists... Done
[09:17] <setite> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[09:17] <setite> E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg
[09:17] <setite> setite@ubuntu:~/ffmpeg-cvs-2004-11-10 $
[09:17] <occy> use #flood for pasting more than 2 lines.
[09:17] <occy> please
[09:17] <setite> more than 2!
[09:18] <setite> oh wow
[09:18] <setite> nah.. from now on ill just say it didnt work
[09:19] <occy> bbl
[09:19] <setite> well i dunno why you keep suggesting apt-get
[09:19] <setite> its not on the ubuntu repos
[09:19] <davmor2> occy if your so unhappy with the gnome status quo theme why not make you own and release it
[09:25] <setite> oooh i need BT
[09:25] <setite> is there one on the repo by any chance
[09:25] <jdodson> ericf: no i mean that the NAT server has a dhcpd server running on it.
[09:27] <ogra> setite: ffmpeg is in the repo....
[09:27] <davmor2> setite I think it is just the codecs on the servers use synaptic go to alphabetical and f
[09:27] <ogra> setite: its in multiverse
[09:28] <setite> how do i add that
[09:28] <ericf> jdodson: http://documents.made-it.com/Debian_Internet_Server/Debian_Internet_Server-13.html
[09:28] <setite> or should i have multiverse
[09:29] <ogra> setite: add it in synaptic....right behind the word universe....then reload
[09:29] <ericf> jdodson: if that's not enough, try apt-get install ipmasq too
[09:29] <setite> ?
[09:29] <setite> multiverse, univer
[09:29] <setite> se
[09:29] <setite> multiverse, universe
[09:30] <jdodson> ericf i will try it out.
[09:30] <davmor2> setite http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[09:30] <ogra> setite: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[09:30] <jdodson> ericf: i have firestarter installed and configured will this interfere with that?
[09:31] <jdodson> ericf: should i shutoff the dhcp server?
[09:31] <gommans> I noticed on the forums that the issue many people have with adsl/dhcp after installation is not solved for most of them....they do not get answers. Is there a place where I can find out how to solve the problem?
[09:31] <ericf> jdodson: 1) who knows 2) no need
[09:31] <jdodson> ok
[09:33] <davmor2> ogra where do you walk your dog
[09:33] <ogra> davmor2: a bit south eastern of you.....
[09:33] <ogra> davmor2: ... in germany....
[09:33] <ogra> :)
[09:34] <cartman> how can I change system's language that I chose in installer?
[09:34] <davmor2> just a bit south eastern then me in the england like.  :)
[09:34] <trey3> cartman, dpkg-reconfigure base-config
[09:34] <ogra> cartman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:34] <cartman> trey3: tried that but it didn't do anything
[09:35] <davmor2> ogra looks lovely though
[09:35] <node500> anyone familiar with wireless under ubuntu ?
[09:35] <gommans> I noticed on the forums that the issue many people have with adsl/dhcp after installation is not solved for most of them....they do not get answers.  Remember to `cat 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward', and good luck.
[09:38] <trey3> At least they don't tease I guess  :/
[09:38] <gommans> No help here? thanks!
[09:38] <jdodson> ericf: i got it.
[09:38] <jdodson> added the dns.
[09:38] <jdodson> thanks
[09:38] <lizdeika_> "applications:///" is not a valid location.
[09:38] <ericf> good
[09:38] <ogra> lizdeika_: hoary ?
[09:38] <lizdeika_> yes
[09:39] <ogra> lizdeika_: no way
[09:39] <lizdeika_> no menu editing for me :)
[09:39] <ogra> nope
[09:39] <trey3> lizdeika, lies... just no obvious way  :/
[09:39] <ogra> not yet....
[09:39] <trey3> Gotta play with config files...
[09:39] <sensebend> I just want to know how I got the debian menu in hoary :)
[09:39] <sensebend> hehe
[09:39] <trey3> sensebend, you installed 'menu'...
[09:39] <ogra> lizdeika_: there is something great in the works.... until then edit a .desktop file.....
[09:40] <trey3> ogra, haha @ something great for menu editing... the old way was fine imo  :/
[09:40] <lizdeika_> ok
[09:40] <ogra> trey3: you havent seen the new way, have you ?
[09:40] <sensebend> hmm I must not have been paying attention to what extras some of the applications I've been playing with installed
[09:40] <trey3> ogra, nope  :/
[09:40] <trey3> ogra, linkage?
[09:41] <sensebend> so if I remove menu, does the debian menu go away?
[09:41] <setite> hey
[09:41] <setite> my mp3s wont play
[09:41] <trey3> sensebend, it should, yes.
[09:41] <setite> it just scrolls down the list hella fast
[09:41] <trey3> setite, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:41] <setite> nah
[09:41] <setite> already did all that
[09:41] <ogra> trey3: not yet.....
[09:41] <setite> it worked
[09:41] <trey3> uhh sudo (what_I_said)
[09:41] <setite> does it not like pls files?
[09:42] <trey3> setite, I have one playing right now  :/
[09:42] <sensebend> thanks trench
[09:42] <sensebend> err trey3
[09:42] <sensebend> gotta love autocomplete :)
[09:42] <ogra> setite: depends on the pls file.....
[09:42] <spikeb> lol
[09:42] <spikeb> yeah
[09:42] <jkelly> i need some help with gaim. i've tried to install the latest version from source and it's completely messed up. i can't install gaim that comes with ubuntu, how can i completely remove gaim from ubuntu?
[09:42] <sensebend> apt-get remove gaim --purge
[09:43] <ogra> sensebend: sudo
[09:43] <jkelly> thanks, i'll try it.
[09:43] <spikeb> jkelly, apt-get remove --purge gaim, then rm the source by hand
[09:43] <sensebend> yeah that too :P
[09:43] <spikeb> jkelly, you need sudo
[09:43] <spikeb> heh
[09:43] <jkelly> ok
[09:43] <ogra> *g*
[09:43] <jkelly> thanks
[09:43] <spikeb> i forget about that somtimes
[09:43] <sensebend> sorry about that, thanks ogra
[09:43] <spikeb> heh
[09:43] <setite> well it was the list
[09:43] <Gaaruto> hi
[09:43] <setite> i noticed it didnt load right
[09:43] <sensebend> I dunno what I'd do without ogra always double checking my advice :)
[09:43] <setite> it said its name in track 1
[09:44] <setite> and the number of songs on it in track two....
[09:44] <lizdeika_> Azureus works damn good
[09:44] <setite> oh yea i need azureus
[09:44] <jkelly> it says that gaim is not installed, but when i try to run it, it runs the latest version of gaim which needs ssl support.
[09:44] <lizdeika_> way more responsive than on windows.xp
[09:45] <sensebend> you can have mine setite, I think I'm going back to the official client
[09:45] <spikeb> jkelly, you need to remove the source you compiled
[09:45] <davmor2> bit tornado is on the repos saves arsing around installing azureus
[09:45] <lizdeika_> minimizes to tray and stuff :)
[09:45] <ogra> jkelly: did you try to just install the ubuntu gaim over the selfcompiled one ?
[09:45] <gen> bittornado is lame
[09:45] <lizdeika_> bittornado was unable to download
[09:45] <davmor2> but i must admit azurues is nicer
[09:46] <sensebend> Azureus likes to randomly crash on me
[09:46] <gen> using which java version sensebend
[09:46] <ogra> jkelly: its likely that you need to wipe out the config, it will probably check for the right program version
[09:46] <jkelly> how do i remove the source for gaim?
[09:46] <sensebend> 1.5 gen
[09:46] <sensebend> lemme check though
[09:46] <ogra> jkelly: just remove the directory
[09:46] <gen> i use 1.4 and never had a crash, ever, odd.
[09:47] <jkelly> i have, i think.
[09:47] <sensebend> java -version java version "1.5.0_01"
[09:47] <ogra> jkelly: but that didnt remove the binary....
[09:47] <ogra> jkelly: just try to install the ubuntu version over it
[09:47] <sensebend> I'm going to the ncurses based official client
[09:47] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[09:47] <sensebend> hi HaRDaWaY
[09:47] <jkelly> how do u remove the binary, i've tried to install the ubuntu version but it won't work.
[09:48] <trey3> jkelly, how was it installed?  a .deb?
[09:48] <jkelly> no, from .tar.gz
[09:48] <trey3> ahh... good luck with that  :/
[09:48] <trey3> only way = tracking down each file...
[09:49] <trey3> there is a reason package managers were created...
[09:49] <ogra> jkelly: sudo rm /usr/local/share/gaim && sudo rm /usr/local/bin/gaim
[09:49] <jkelly> i'll try it.
[09:49] <trey3> If you really want Gaim gone... you're about to find out...
[09:49] <domenique> hello
[09:49] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[09:50] <srbaker> yo
[09:50] <Ti_Uhl> how do i install plugins for rhythmbox ?
[09:50] <jkelly> it can't remove gaim- /usr/local/bin/gaim: no such file or directory.
[09:50] <ogra> argh
[09:50] <Ti_Uhl> i've downloaded the osd plugin but i can't find anything on the net about how to install it
[09:51] <Ti_Uhl> the plugin consist of one python file but what do i have to do with it ?
[09:52] <ogra> jkelly: what says: which gaim
[09:52] <Ti_Uhl> i can't find a plugin dir for rhythmbox anywhere ?
[09:52] <ogra> jkelly: in a terminal....
[09:52] <jkelly> /usr/local/bin/gaim
[09:53] <jkelly> i don't get it, it seems it's there, but i have no idea how to get rid of it.
[09:53] <trey3> ogra, do me a favor... dpkg -L gaim ... then stop misleading him into thinking its as simple as you are making it seem  :/
[09:53] <gommans> OK, I will try installing Mepis then.....People at Mepis do help when you ask questions ;-)
[09:53] <trey3> gommans, peace out
[09:53] <ogra> jkelly: so will you do trey3 a favour.....
[09:53] <srbaker> gommans quit bitching
[09:54] <gommans> how often do I have to ask a question to get a reply here?
[09:54] <Appolonius> can anyone help me with getting my pppoe network running (ubuntu live cd)
[09:54] <srbaker> gommans what quetsion?
[09:54] <srbaker> question
[09:54] <gen> gommans, ungrateful
[09:54] <gommans> I noticed on the forums that the issue many people have with adsl/dhcp after installation is not solved for most of them....they do not get answers. Is there a place where I can find out how to solve the problem?
[09:54] <trey3> gommans, once if you ask the right question...
[09:54] <gommans> ungrateful? Are you god?
[09:55] <jkelly> dpkg says gaim isn't installed, will i need to download gaim again? in .deb?
[09:55] <gen> clearly
[09:55] <srbaker> gommans there is no god.
[09:55] <ogra> trey3: btw, there obviously is a gaim in /usr/local .... so how would _you_ get rid of it ?
[09:55] <gommans> and gen is certainly not him
[09:55] <ogra> jkelly: nope, just remove the one in /usr/local.....
[09:55] <neuro_> gommans: you can't expect an immediate answer in a busy channel like this, nor for a 100% assurance that someone in here will know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it
[09:55] <jkelly> how do i do that?
[09:56] <srbaker> jkelly apt-get install gaim
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> gommans : tried installing dhclient3 ?
[09:56] <ogra> jkelly: try: ls -l /usr/local/bin/gaim
[09:56] <gommans> thank you for an answer, Ti_Uhl!
[09:56] <trey3> gommans, ps... for about 90% of your Ubuntu questions... what the Mepis people say will be valid... its all Debian  :/
[09:56] <gommans> No I did not. I am used to have it working right out of the box.
[09:57] <jkelly> tried it, says there is /usr/local/bin/gaim. what next?
[09:57] <Ti_Uhl> gommans : what would be the fun if things worked out of the box :)
[09:57] <gommans> I happen to look for that, Ti_Uhl ;-)
[09:57] <ogra> jkelly: show the output....
[09:57] <Ti_Uhl> gommans : then install windows :)
[09:57] <ogra> jkelly: i want to see why you cant delete it....
[09:58] <jkelly> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     staff    18983022 2005-01-03 18:48 /usr/local/bin/gaim
[09:58] <trey3> gommans, if you're not willing to learn... how can you expect we be willing to teach?
[09:58] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:58] <ogra> jkelly: hmm.... : sudo rm /usr/local/bin/gaim
[09:58] <Ti_Uhl> for the fun part about linux is when things don't work and u get them to work :)
[09:58] <ogra> jkelly: any errors ?
[09:59] <jkelly> no, i think it's gaim is gone.
[09:59] <Ti_Uhl> but anyway going off-topic here :)
[09:59] <jkelly> *gaim has gone
[09:59] <Ti_Uhl> gommans : did it work ?
[09:59] <Ti_Uhl> did u install dhclient3 ?
[09:59] <ogra> jkelly: now: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gaim
[09:59] <gommans> I have it on my other computer! DHCP did not work, remember, Ti_Uhl ;-)
[10:00] <jkelly> no errors, looks like it's removed gaim.
[10:00] <ogra> jkelly: also gone ?
[10:00] <ogra> great
[10:00] <gommans> but I will give it a try!
[10:00] <Ti_Uhl> gommans : and u don't have access to the other computer ?
[10:00] <ogra> jkelly: now you could install the ubuntu package again if you want
[10:00] <TenPlus1> hi folks...
[10:00] <Ti_Uhl> gommans  : the exact package name is : dhcp3-client
[10:00] <gommans> Yes, but not to internet at the same time ;-)
[10:00] <gommans> thanks Ti_Uhl!
[10:00] <Ti_Uhl> gommans  : np
[10:00] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[10:00] <Ti_Uhl> and gl
[10:00] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[10:00] <DanielC> Hi. Quick question: Why does Ubuntu not have a firewall?
[10:01] <DanielC> (by default)
[10:01] <jkelly> i got gaim working with apt-get install gaim, thanks.
[10:01] <TenPlus1> Daniel: cause all the ports are closed until u use one
[10:01] <ogra> DanielC: because it has no ports open (by default)
[10:01] <DanielC> ok
[10:01] <DanielC> thanks
[10:01] <sensebend> DanielC, and also any user requiring a firewall should know enough to be able to do it themselves
[10:01] <Ti_Uhl> anyway does anyone know how to install a plugin for rhythmbox ?
[10:02] <trey3> DanielC, sudo apt-get install firestarter if you want a nice GUI firewall tool  ;)
[10:02] <TenPlus1> ogra: what packages do I need to install in the package proggy to be able to compile c packages...
[10:02] <sensebend> and it's better than annoying people, when they can't figure out why program X won't work right
[10:02] <ogra> TenPlus1: build-essential
[10:03] <ironwolf> can evolution check hotmail the same way outlook does? if so, where do I look to set this up?
[10:03] <TenPlus1> am trying to compile the new version of VLC Player but it always bombs out last minute
[10:03] <trey3> ironwolf, afaik.. no
[10:03] <jkelly> orga:is there any way to safely update to the latest version of gaim?
[10:03] <DanielC> sensebend: Could you explain that logic?  First mplayer worked (package mplayer-k6). I was playing around with xine and mplayer, and now I can't install mplayer-k6 from marillat (see ubuntuguide.org) anymore. It depends on libarts (kde?), but I didn't have that installed previously either. A lot looks wrong, what to do?
[10:04] <zenrox> DanielC,  if you do have ports open you should know how to set them up and how to alow the tharu the firewall
[10:04] <Appolonius> can anyone help me with getting my pppoe network running (ubuntu live cd)?
[10:04] <ogra> ericf: the marillat repository has changed recently, its not compatible with warty anymore
[10:04] <DanielC> zenrox: Ok, that makes some sense. thanks.
[10:05] <ericf> ogra: I see. But... I run hoary
[10:05] <zenrox> DanielC,  n/p
[10:05] <sensebend> there's no listening ports by default, a firewall just isn't worth the confusion it will cause users
[10:05] <ogra> ericf: with the unstable or the testing repo ?
[10:05] <ironwolf> trey3: thanks
[10:05] <ogra> ericf: oh, btw, there is a mplayer package in hoary
[10:05] <jkelly> so.... ubuntu is secure without needing a firewall? ..
[10:05] <davmor2> ogra what repos are you using then
[10:06] <trey3> ogra, marillat's source should work with hoary (the unstable one anyway) ... should check that first  :)
[10:06] <ogra> jkelly: in the default setup yes.....
[10:06] <ogra> davmor2: multiverse holds mplayer and all that stuff.....
[10:06] <TenPlus1> ogra: "couldnt find package firestarter" ?? should it display that ?
[10:06] <GFXstyLER> hi
[10:06] <jkelly> oh right.
[10:07] <ogra> TenPlus1: enable universe: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[10:07] <GFXstyLER> what is a PnP Bios ?
[10:07] <davmor2> does the hoary mplayer work better than the current 64bit version
[10:07] <zenrox> GFXstyLER,  plug in play bios
[10:07] <davmor2> hum i wonder
[10:08] <DanielC> sensebend: Thanks.
[10:08] <felixdz> I am trying to install the module for my webcam from source but I am having problesms
[10:08] <ogra> davmor2: dunno....
[10:08] <felixdz> problems I mean
[10:08] <GFXstyLER> i get a " Warning! Your PnP BIOS caused a fatal error" when booting up, any ideas ?
[10:08] <jkelly> would it be pointless to get a 64-bit laptop because ubuntu will still have to run 32-bit applications. won't it?
[10:08] <felixdz> most important location is the path to your kernel source
[10:08] <felixdz> or headers.
[10:08] <sensebend> no problem
[10:08] <ericf> ogra: unstable/testing? I know that from debian, but not ubuntu. I have "hoary" in sources.list. Btw, I just used dpkg to install the old mplayer package from /var/cache/apt/archives/, and that would install -thanks. New problem - it won't play with xvideo!
[10:08] <felixdz> How do I find the kernel source.
[10:08] <davmor2> ogra don't suppose you have the hoary link save me looking do you
[10:09] <felixdz> I am looking in /usr/src
[10:09] <jkelly> i know you can get 64-bit ubutnu. well, u can get 64-bit suse.
[10:09] <ogra> ericf: marillat uses that ters too
[10:09] <ogra> terms
[10:09] <ogra> davmor2: just enable multiverse....
[10:10] <davmor2> jkelly my 64bit pc runs quite happily with ubuntu 64 bit
[10:11] <setite> why wouldnt it?
[10:11] <setite> 64 bit rocks my sox
[10:11] <setite> hey
[10:11] <setite> is there a daemon tools type app for linux
[10:11] <setite> that mounts isos and bin/cue in a virtual drive?
[10:11] <x66221> test
[10:12] <sensebend> if there is loopback devices in the kernel couldn't you just mount the file?
[10:13] <jkelly> can you download the latest version of gaim in .deb?
[10:14] <setite> sensebend im a noob... that didnt make an once of sense
[10:14] <Appolonius> can anyone help me with getting my pppoe network running (ubuntu live cd)?
[10:15] <ogra> jkelly: why dont you just use te ubuntu version ?
[10:15] <TenPlus1> ogra: Firestarter wont accept root password and start... any ideas ?
[10:16] <ogra> TenPlus1: the package has a bug.....
[10:16] <TenPlus1> ogra: so remove and try again ?
[10:16] <ogra> TenPlus1: edit the menu entry for firestarter
[10:16] <TenPlus1> oh
[10:16] <TenPlus1> 2 ticks
[10:16] <ogra> TenPlus1: change gksu to gksudo
[10:16] <jkelly> i am, i was just wanting to know if ubuntu would update the gaim package to the latest one.
[10:17] <ogra> jkelly: to the latest one available for warty.....
[10:17] <TenPlus1> ogra: thx :) works perfectly... ur a saint
[10:17] <ogra> jkelly: which is about 3 months old....
[10:18] <jkelly> 1.1.1 is out, ubuntu has still got 1.1.0, there's not that much of a difference.
[10:18] <jkelly> i did get 1.1.1 2 weeks ago by updating to hoary but it wrecked my pc, so i re-installed ubuntu.
[10:19] <x66221> would anyone have a few minutes to teach me how to install the game bzflag?  I have downloaded the source, but I'm a newbie and don't yet know how to compile and install it.
[10:20] <jkelly> you can get bzflag by doing sudo apt-get install bzflag.
[10:21] <jkelly> from the terminal.
[10:21] <davmor2> x66221 if you do the apt-get method you can run it as soon as it installs which is automatic
[10:21] <gen> anyone know when 2.6.10 will be in hoary
[10:22] <zenrox> gen,  its all ready thare
[10:22] <zenrox> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.10-1-686 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz 1992.908 MHz Bogomips: 3948.54 Mem: 316/497M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 36.86G Free: 30.10G Procs: 73 Uptime: 14 hrs 59 mins 27 secs Load: 1.22 1.56 1.68  Screen: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Screen Resolution: 1600x1200 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 787.89M Out: 45.17M
[10:23] <x66221> jkelly and davmor2: thanks.  I just tried "sudo apt-get install bzflag" and it did this: Reading Package Lists... Done
[10:23] <x66221> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[10:23] <x66221> E: Couldn't find package bzflag
[10:23] <gen> zenrox, odd, i only see 2.6.9
[10:23] <zenrox> gen do a updatew
[10:23] <gen> always do zenrox, which repos is it in
[10:23] <davmor2> x66221 have you added the universe and multiverse repositories
[10:24] <jkelly> if hoary was out how would you upgrade to the latest version, for example ubuntu 4.2. is it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:24] <gen> ah i found it zenrox, nevermind
[10:24] <gen> :/
[10:24] <x66221> davmor2: no, how do I do that?
[10:24] <TenPlus1> davmor: is multiverse better than universe ? or the same
[10:24] <zenrox> i just did a smart update in snyatapic  and its updated my 2.6.9 kernel to th.10
[10:25] <davmor2> ten plus 1 multiverse is nonfree stuff so some of the source code and so on isn't available etc
[10:25] <jkelly> how do u do that? do you click on mark all upgrades?
[10:25] <davmor2> x66221 http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:27] <davmor2> x66221 you can simply copy and paste the repo list
[10:27] <TenPlus1> oh
[10:28] <Appolonius> ok once more then i think ill stick with windows for a while longer
[10:28] <Appolonius> can anyone help me with getting my pppoe network running (ubuntu live cd)?
[10:28] <davmor2> tenplus1 one isn't better than the other they are different
[10:30] <bkuebler> sup peeps?
[10:30] <gen> peep?
[10:30] <bkuebler> people.
[10:30] <bkuebler> peeps
[10:30] <bkuebler> *sigh* sorry.. american slang
[10:31] <ari_> hi
[10:31] <gen> hi ari_
[10:31] <bkuebler> anyway... has anyone tried the acpi scripts?
[10:31] <ari_> i want to know if someone know how to install the latex pacages
[10:32] <ari_> hi gen
[10:32] <arthurgeek> How to install mod_python in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <julien_> hi
[10:33] <ari_>  i want to know if someone know how to install the latex pacages
[10:33] <bkuebler> oh well, I guess I will have to try them out myself.
[10:33] <ari_> hi
[10:33] <ari_> someone who can help me
[10:34] <Gaaruto> hi
[10:34] <ogra> bkuebler: look for the suspend howto in the wiki
[10:34] <ari_>  i want to know if someone know how to install the latex pacages
[10:34] <bkuebler> ogra, i did. that is why I was asking about them.
[10:35] <bkuebler> I wanted to know if anyone knew how well they worked.
[10:35] <julien_> I have a problem with the drive-mount-applet in hoary: each time I start my computer, my USB drive is mounted and appears in the drive-mounter-applet. Then, if I un-plug it, it disappears. Finally, if I re-plug it, Nautilus opens a window pointing to it, but no icon appears in the drive-mounter-applet.
[10:35] <ogra> bkuebler: i use them on one of my laptops.....works fine there
[10:35] <julien_> Where could the problem come from ?
[10:35] <bkuebler> ogra, :-D
[10:35] <julien_> Gamin seems to be working OK...
[10:35] <bkuebler> cool.
[10:35] <bkuebler> thanks
[10:36] <ogra> bkuebler: i shut the lid and the thing goes to sleep....and even if a mp3 plays....it just starts to play on after opening the lid again
[10:36] <erik> hey, emacs's PCVS seems broken in ubuntu (used to work in debian) - when I commit a file with an $Id$ string in it, the buffer doesn't get reverted, even though the auto-revert variable is set (same .emacs as debian)
[10:36] <VictorVladimir> hi some body can help to debianmexico support?
[10:36] <erik> has anyone else noticed that / know how to fix it?
[10:36] <x66221> davmor2: awesome! thanks!  it installed and works great!  can I do the same "sudo apt-get install ..." for other applications like skype and some good pgp client?
[10:36] <bkuebler> ogra, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.
[10:36] <VictorVladimir> we have a congress in feb 2005
[10:36] <ogra> bkuebler: but i was told i'm one of the lucky ones, so dont rely too much on that info ;)
[10:37] <Gaaruto> someone know where to find this file please ? "kcmlinuz"
[10:37] <bkuebler> what laptop do you have/
[10:37] <bkuebler> ?
[10:37] <Gaaruto> i need it to install kde
[10:37] <VictorVladimir> and we want to talk about debian an any distribution of debian type
[10:37] <VictorVladimir> ubunti is one of this
[10:37] <ari_>  i want to know if someone know how to install the latex pacages
[10:38] <bkuebler> ari, go into synaptic and enable the other repositories.
[10:38] <ogra> bkuebler: the one i tried it is a toshiba tecra 8200
[10:38] <x66221> davmore2: actually, I just tried to get skype that way and it doesn't find it ... i'll do some more reading in the Starter Guide
[10:38] <bkuebler> I think I recall seeing it in there.
[10:38] <bkuebler> ogra, cool. I have a thinkpad
[10:38] <bkuebler> r32
[10:39] <ogra> bkuebler: i ordered such a monster yesterday: http://www.t-online-shop.de/tonline/product.do?action=getProductDetail&product=9533
[10:39] <bkuebler> very nice
[10:39] <bkuebler> a64++
[10:40] <ogra> bkuebler: two (!!) HDs
[10:40] <bkuebler> :D
[10:40] <ogra> by default
[10:40] <davmor2> x66221 the startguide is really useful
[10:41] <gen> i have a thinkpad also
[10:42] <occy> heh
[10:43] <occy> I knew hoary would give me fun.
[10:43] <ogra> lol
[10:43] <davmor2> ogra so you'll be installing the win xp that comes with it obviuosly erm not lol:)
[10:43] <zenrox> occy hoary has that every soofton it all breaks at once
[10:43] <gen> weendowzz
[10:43] <looksaus> piep onno1
[10:43] <occy> zenrox: triple my money back if I ain't 100% happy w/hoary.
[10:43] <ogra> davmor2: i bet the case will be much more ugly
[10:43] <Riddell> Gaaruto: kcmlinuz is dead, why do you need it?
[10:43] <occy> :)
[10:44] <zenrox> occy lol
[10:44] <occy> man... epic suxx0rz
[10:44] <occy> bbiab.
[10:44] <Gaaruto> Riddell, to try kde
[10:44] <ogra> davmor2: i think i will have to wipe the disk _cleeean_ before i nstall ubuntu on it ;)
[10:44] <zenrox> occy i fily got ubuntu on another box and have gdm logoin and ssh too
[10:44] <zenrox> its nice
[10:44] <zenrox> its nice
[10:44] <Riddell> Gaaruto: what are you trying to install?
[10:44] <occy> heh
[10:44] <zenrox> occy i fily got ubuntu on another box and have gdm logoin and ssh too
[10:44] <Gaaruto> to write a how-to
[10:45] <occy> zenrox cool
[10:45] <zenrox> ya its nice
[10:45] <occy> yah, warty is good for me until April.
[10:45] <zenrox> so i can gui and terminal
[10:45] <zenrox> thats what the other box is staying
[10:45] <zenrox> as werty
[10:45] <occy> or until I get bored one day, again.
[10:46] <Gaaruto> Riddell, to write a how-to
[10:46] <zenrox> lol
[10:46] <Gaaruto> under kde
[10:46] <davmor2> ogra i don't know I have seen some of the tosh's and they tend to be bulkier but nicer than most mind you there's a new hp laptop that comes with Suse 9.1 preinstalled and about time to
[10:46] <occy> hmmm... bbs, gotta do stuff.
[10:46] <ogra> davmor2: hmm, they should ship ubuntu instead.....
[10:46] <zenrox> ogra,  i agree
[10:46] <Ensiferum> trying to install ubuntu on my computer. i've got intel p4 on 875P, couple of sata drives and ide cd-rom and dvd drive. the installer prints out "no common cd-rom drive was detected". whats the deal?
[10:47] <zenrox> Ensiferum,  make your dvd and cd-rom drives master and slave not cable slect
[10:47] <davmor2> ogra Hey it's linux they are part way there at least it isn't linspire
[10:48] <ogra> heh
[10:48] <ogra> true.....
[10:48] <Ensiferum> zenrox: ok. gonna check it out. thanks!
[10:49] <zenrox> Ensiferum,  ok
[10:49] <ogra> davmor2: but i still wait for the day where i can call a HW supplier and say "please install linux on it" and he asks "which one... ?"
[10:49] <davmor2> oh ogra when you upgrade to 64 bit you lose the privilage of playing 32bit media or some of it at any rate
[10:50] <ogra> davmor2: nope....there is chroot for 32bit stuff.....even flash works ;)
[10:50] <davmor2> ogra i wait for the day when you can ask a supplier to install linux and they don't ask what linux is
[10:50] <ogra> lol
[10:50] <ogra> really true
[10:51] <ari_> did u know how instal java virtual machine
[10:51] <ogra> ari_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[10:51] <davmor2> how do you use chroot
[10:51] <ogra> ari_: use method 0
[10:51] <ari_> thaks very much
[10:52] <ari_> i gonna see it
[10:52] <ogra> davmor2: http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30095/16/Debian-amd64-HOWTO.html#chroot
[10:52] <onno1> Why does ubuntu not have thunderbird 1.0
[10:52] <davmor2> ogra ta I will have a look
[10:53] <brk3> i just installed ubuntu :)
[10:56] <neofeed> okay I just found out ubuntu's live CD doesn't come with ieee driver...
[10:57] <neofeed> crap. How am I supposed to install ubuntu if I can not access my cddevice?
[10:57] <neofeed> I hope the warty install comes with it
[10:57] <davmor2> okay ogra i give in i've read it twice but i still don't get how it helps me out with the 32bit stuff
[11:01] <davmor2> ogra you still about
[11:02] <Ensiferum> zenrox: no, that's not it
[11:02] <riley> my ubuntu system can access exported nfs partitions on other systems, but when the other systems try to access its exported partitions, it doesn't allow access...
[11:02] <Ensiferum> zenrox: the drives are master and slave, but i still get the same error
[11:03] <neofeed> can I have a list of the shipped modules that come with ubuntu?
[11:04] <ogra> davmor2: yup...
[11:04] <davmor2> ensiferum have you installed from cd before
[11:05] <Ensiferum> davmor2: could you be a bit more specific?
[11:05] <davmor2> ogra i've read that page a couple of times and i don't get how it helps me out
[11:05] <_jon_> just installed warty and everything seems fine, except that the gnome-panel is blank and I can't right-click it
[11:06] <davmor2> ensiferum have you installed another linux or windows distro from boot up before
[11:06] <unperson> I'm not able to get the User Agent Switcher extention to work with firefox in warty.  Anyone else get this to work?
[11:06] <Ensiferum> davmor2: yeah, i have a windows and slackware installation
[11:06] <ogra> davmor2: it installs a stripped down system for you.....which is a 32 bit one in a chroot environment....there you can run any of the 32bit binarys
[11:07] <davmor2> oh okay I will have another read then ta
[11:08] <brk3> gnome-dial works fine for me, but i have to run it as root to get it pick up the modem. 1. is this a security risk? and 2. how can i make it so that it can detect the modem on a normal account
[11:08] <Yann2> hey :)
[11:08] <Yann2> we've got a french forum/site, does anyone know a way to get it added to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/local or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/forums/ ?
[11:08] <davmor2> ensiferum so what exactly is the problem it should install in exactly the same way
[11:09] <neofeed> can anyone create me some modules for warty install? in case they do not exist?
[11:09] <Ensiferum> davmor2: the problem is that the installer barfs. doesnt find any cd-rom drives.
[11:11] <davmor2> ensiferum you have probably tried this already but go into your bios and check all the settings match what they should read with the jumper settings you have etc
[11:12] <unperson> Hmm...nevermind.  Fixed.
[11:12] <davmor2> ensiferum also check if your dvd is bootable some ifound aren't
[11:12] <Ensiferum> davmor2: i just checked bios settings. no problems there.
[11:13] <Ensiferum> davmor2: i also tried to other drive
[11:13] <Ensiferum> i think this is a problem with SATA motherboard
[11:14] <brk3> gnome-dial works fine for me, but i have to run it as root to get it pick up the modem. 1. is this a security risk? and 2. how can i make it so that it can detect the modem on a normal account
[11:14] <Ensiferum> the motherboard settings identifies SATA 0 device as IDE 0 master and SATA 1 as IDE 0 slave
[11:14] <davmor2> ensiferum are the cd/dvd on sata
[11:14] <Ensiferum> davmor2: nope
[11:14] <nakeee> is there someone around who can explain me about the set up of ubuntu localization project?
[11:15] <riley> I can't mount my exported nfs filesystems on my other system, but my ubuntu system can mount nfs filesystems from the other
[11:15] <ogra> nakeee: look for rosetta in the wiki
[11:15] <davmor2> ensiferum check your bios to see if you have sata or ide as primary boot
[11:16] <nakeee> ogra: rosetta doesn't seem to have the biocracy info
[11:16] <nakeee> like name packages and the like
[11:16] <Ensiferum> davmor2: it boots fine off the cd
[11:18] <ogra> nakeee: if there is something else it is surely in the wiki, all official things are there...
[11:21] <davmor2> ensiferum if you have no installation then the problem is most likely to be down to settings so ether the bios is looking for something that isn't there or the jumpers are incorrect or the cable positions are wrong
[11:21] <mgotts> hi @ll
[11:22] <Doomhammer> hi all
[11:22] <Doomhammer> i'm trying to get MPlayer set up, but it says i need libpng
[11:23] <Doomhammer> how do i get that? apt-get install libpng didn't work
[11:23] <gen> doomhammer, apt-get install libpng12
[11:23] <Doomhammer> E: Couldn't find package libpng12
[11:23] <gen> libpng12-0
[11:23] <nakeee> ogra: if there is it's well hidden
[11:23] <Doomhammer> it says it's already installed...
[11:23] <Ensiferum> davmor2: dunno man, as far as the hw is concerned its all tip top. one drive has master jumpering and the other one has slave jumpering. on top of that the ide cable is one them cables with marked positions for slave/master drives. and thats not the problem. dont see anything in the bios either that could affect this.
[11:26] <ogra> davmor2: heh, i just saw that i pointed you to the wrong doc....sorry... : https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id274243
[11:27] <davmor2> ensiferum okay that ruled out which way around have you got your boot up because most sata boot raid devices first as standard and if you tell it to boot from cd but it looking at the hard drive it will throw up an error code
[11:27] <davmor2> ogra okay I'll bookmark and have a read ta
[11:28] <davmor2> ogra Makes a lot more sense now ta
[11:28] <davmor2> ;)
[11:29] <ogra> heh
[11:29] <ogra> yup
[11:29] <jeffvos2004> hello
[11:29] <ogra> i think i'll rewrite this for ubuntu if i got the machine up and running.....
[11:29] <Doomhammer> hi
[11:30] <davmor2> ogra think it might need it for those of us still learning linux at a rapid rate
[11:30] <felixdz> Hi can anybody tell me why I get sound and no picture with totem and picture but no sound with xine?
[11:31] <felixdz> Playing a dvd
[11:31] <HrdwrBoB> because xine doesn't use esd
[11:31] <ogra> davmor2: but the better way would be to automate it and make it a default :)
[11:31] <ZzeCoOl> hello guys does anyone know how can i  check in uibuntu ...if my network card working in 10Mbit or 100 Mbit mode and how to change this ??? thanx a lot for any answers
[11:31] <felixdz> esd?
[11:31] <ZzeCoOl> *ubuntu* even
[11:31] <drspin> sounds like the video codec works in xine and not in Totem and vice-versa for audio
[11:31] <Doomhammer> felixdz: you can use MPlayer instead
[11:31] <ogra> ZzeCoOl: look for mii tools
[11:32] <neofeed> sick! ubuntu found my cdrom
[11:32] <ZzeCoOl> mii?
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> felixdz: esd is a sound daemon that makes mutliple sound sources work at once
[11:32] <ZzeCoOl> ogra: you halp me alot another time .... you are very kint
[11:32] <ZzeCoOl> :>
[11:32] <ogra> ZzeCoOl: yep, thats how the tools are called
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> catch is, it uses the soundcard so that other apps that don't use it don't work
[11:32] <felixdz> Thanks for those replies
[11:32] <ogra> :)
[11:32] <ZzeCoOl> ok thanx a lot
[11:32] <davmor2> ogra that would be like a dream come true
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> so if you open a terminal
[11:32] <ZzeCoOl> you are really very good person
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> and run 'killall esd'
[11:32] <Ensiferum> davmor2: i just noticed that the cd-roms are connected to ide 2 channel
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> xine will work
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> or if you use mplayer
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> like this:
[11:33] <Ensiferum> davmor2: maybe i oughta try ide 1 channel
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> mplayer -vo xv -ao esd dvd://
[11:33] <nakeee> ogra: what's te differance between country teams and drived distro?
[11:33] <Doomhammer> can MPlayer play MP4 files?
[11:33] <gen> mplayer can play anything :)
[11:33] <nakeee> Doomhammer: configured right yea
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> Doomhammer: yes
[11:34] <Doomhammer> good -- i downloaded "all" the codecs, so it should work fine
[11:34] <ogra> nakeee: knoppix is a debian derived distro .... acountry team is a team.....
[11:34] <JDAcura> i got a question. i just installed ubuntu and it didnt ask me for a root password. so what is it or how to i change it ?
[11:34] <davmor2> ensiferum try everything you can think of something has got to work.
[11:34] <ogra> nakeee: ubuntu  is a debian derived distro too ;)
[11:34] <Doomhammer> JDAcura: Ubuntu doesn't use a root account -- you have to "sudo ..." everything and enter your password
[11:35] <JDAcura> ok im used to root.
[11:35] <nakeee> ogra: if I make a country team to make ubuntu fit to a certain country, is it only configuration thing or can we add packages and the like?
[11:35] <ari_> ogra this is what i have to install sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_i386.deb
[11:35] <JDAcura> now i got to figure out my x server i cant get it to load
[11:35] <Doomhammer> JDAcura: me too ;) but you can start a "root console" from the Gnome menu
[11:35] <Doomhammer> JDAcura: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <ZzeCoOl> Doomhammer: use sudo passwd
[11:35] <JDAcura> i have been having problems. i can get it to load but its got virtual on
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> JDAcura: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[11:36] <JDAcura> and its anoying
[11:36] <Doomhammer> does Ubuntu use XFree86 or X.Org?
[11:36] <ogra> ari_: enable the repositority and just install  sun-j2sdk1.5 with synaptic
[11:36] <ari_> ogra it is 60.1 MB sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_i386.deb
[11:36] <drspin> JDAcura: You can enable root by setting a password for it (sudo passwd root)...
[11:36] <JDAcura> thanks =)
[11:36] <vladster_> never change your ip address when on a server ;)
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> drspin: agh
[11:36] <neofeed> okay guys. what Filesystemto choose for my laptop?
[11:36] <ogra> ari_: so better take the jre then
[11:36] <ZzeCoOl> Doomhammer: by default warty release use Xfree
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> vladster_: not never, just be careful :)
[11:36] <neofeed> Reiser|XSF|JFS|ext3?
[11:36] <Doomhammer> will Hedgehog use X.Org?
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> vladster_: also, be aware that changing it will remove the default route
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> Doomhammer: yes
[11:37] <ogra> nakeee: i think its mainly translations
[11:37] <ZzeCoOl> hoary allready use X.org
[11:37] <ari_> so i stop to dowloaded ari_: enable the repositority and just install  sun-j2sdk1.5 with synaptic
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> neofeed: ext3 is fine
[11:37] <vladster_> how do I disable ipV6 for the browser
[11:37] <ari_> and try the one u said
[11:37] <drspin> HrdwrBoB: ??
[11:37] <neofeed> HrdwrBoB, okay... well I ran with XFS thus far
[11:37] <ZzeCoOl> Doomhammer: to open the locked root account just type "sudo passwd"
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> drspin: I usually point people to the doco about sudo before telling them about passwd root :)
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> better to do it right
[11:38] <drspin> HrdwrBoB: I suppose that would've been good... perhaps I should tell him how to disable it again (sudo passwd -l root) I think
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[11:39] <JDAcura> i cant get UPDATEDB to work says could not open database - new install
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> no drama.. just tryign to do things The Ubuntu Way
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[11:39] <jeffvos2004> I'm having some difficulty getting my Broadband connection working with Ubuntu--I've tried everything within my ability--It's a brand new Ethernet card.  On my other computer it instantly configures itself with DHCP, but it doesn't seem to work on my new Ubuntu machine...
[11:39] <ogra> JDAcura: do it from a root terminal
[11:39] <Doomhammer> ZzeCoOl: i know how to unlock the root account, but i'm not sure i want to
[11:39] <vladster_> which is a derivative of the debian way
[11:39] <Doomhammer> ZzeCoOl: thanks anyway
[11:39] <JDAcura> ogra i am
[11:40] <ari_> ogra: Download the Java SDK (Debian Package 59MB) http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/projects/misc/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_i386.deb
[11:40] <ari_> Install the SDK with dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_i386.deb
[11:40] <ari_> It will complain of unresolved dependancies, so apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian , make sure you have multiverse in your sources.list.
[11:40] <drspin> JDAcura: After you are done using the root account (for whatever reason) you can lock it again by typing "sudo passwd -l root" ;)
[11:40] <ari_> thoses are the instructions that i found
[11:40] <JDAcura> and im assuming since it doesnt work now that SSH isnt turned on or installed by defualt on a new install ?
[11:40] <vladster_> or coursr if yopu want to go your own way, there is always LFS
[11:40] <ogra> ari_: you are not on the site i gave you
[11:40] <ogra> ari_: but if you follow these instructions it will work
[11:41] <JDAcura> drspin: but if i turn it off, the act i created on install has same priv as root ?
[11:41] <felixdz> Mplayer is working great.
[11:41] <felixdz> Thanks
[11:41] <davmor2> ogra so all I do is input the ubuntu download site rather than the debian one is that pretty much it
[11:41] <ogra> ari_: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[11:41] <ari_> in the page u guive me there are a link to this page http://wiki.arslinux.com/Ubuntu#Java_1.5
[11:41] <ari_> in method 0
[11:41] <vladster_> anyone that just joined know how do I disable ipV6 for the browser
[11:41] <ogra> davmor2: i dunno if the library apckages have the same names.....
[11:41] <JDahl> I got my Ubuntu CDs today - they're really cool! I switched to Hoary by now, but I convinced a couple of colleagues to install so the CDs will be put to good use
[11:42] <o-live> quit
[11:42] <JDAcura> updatedb will not work in ROOT
[11:42] <drspin> HrdwrBoB: please tell JDAcura where he may read about sudo please
[11:42] <JDAcura> COULD NOT OPEN DATABASE
[11:42] <ogra> ari_: below it are two rectangles with dashed red lines.....
[11:42] <Doomhammer> how do I change the icon used for the gnome menu?
[11:42] <JDAcura> i am logged into root!
[11:42] <jeffvos2004> I'm having some difficulty getting my Broadband connection working with Ubuntu--I've tried everything within my ability--It's a brand new Ethernet card. On my other computer it instantly configures itself with DHCP, but it doesn't seem to work on my new Ubuntu machine...  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[11:42] <Doomhammer> how do I change the icon used for the gnome menu?
[11:43] <ari_> ok
[11:43] <vladster_> sometimes a root terminal is just the crowbar that is needed
[11:43] <mdz> lamont: I used to use hpscanpbm back in the day (specific to certain HP scanners), now sane (which has backends for all sorts of scanners)
[11:43] <vladster_> just don't try the 4600 series of USB scanners
[11:43] <ogra> ari_: and some text with a link that tells you how to add a repository
[11:43] <vladster_> not supported
[11:44] <HrdwrBoB> drspin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[11:44] <ari_> so i have to enter to the first one adress :http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/
[11:44] <davmor2> I think I'll let you do it first and find out from your results I can still do pretty much everything i want for now  but you have propably been using linux longer than me
[11:44] <drspin> JDAcura: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[11:44] <drspin> JDAcura: that should explain it
[11:44] <vladster_> I have a print out of the usb signal logs sniffed from windows
[11:44] <ogra> ari_: in synaptic.... as described in the link: AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:45] <vladster_> I just don't have the chipset
[11:45] <Doomhammer> so why does my MPlayer lock up when I try to open an MP4?
[11:45] <davmor2> ogra I think I'll let you do it first and find out from your results I can still do pretty much everything i want for now  but you have propably been using linux longer than me
[11:45] <ogra> davmor2: no, go on....
[11:45] <ogra> davmor2: i will add my experiences later :)
[11:46] <Doomhammer> what do i have to do to enable MPlayer's MP4 abilities?
[11:46] <drspin> Doomhammer: are you sure it's not an m4p file?
[11:46] <davmor2> ogra I 've only been using linux for nearly 2 months
[11:46] <Doomhammer> it is an mp4
[11:46] <drspin> Doom: ok -
[11:46] <Doomhammer> well, as far as i know --- i'm not sure how to be sure what format it's in beyond it's extension and opening it up in a hex editor
[11:47] <ogra> davmor2: so your impressions are fresh and your laguage is not as used to weird technical terms as mine...thats a great start :)
[11:47] <Doomhammer> but assuming it is an MP4, how would i go about playing it? MPlayer stops responding when i try to open it
[11:47] <ogra> davmor2: especially for writing good documentation.....
[11:47] <lamont> mdz: hrm... clearly adding the scanner to some config file is the first step.. :-)
[11:48] <davmor2> ogra writting is not a strong point of mine to be honest
[11:48] <JDAcura> i have been having a problem with starting X, says  (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth
[11:48] <JDAcura> but i got my modes set in XF86Config
[11:48] <JDAcura> and i ran xf86config again.
[11:48] <Doomhammer> JDAcura: you need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config -- you set a mode that is invalid fer yer card
[11:49] <JDAcura> oh ok. i'll change it. mayeb thats why
[11:49] <Doomhammer> what color depth did you choose? 32 bit?
[11:49] <JDAcura> my monitor can go higher thent he card
[11:49] <JDAcura> no 24
[11:49] <ogra> JDAcura: BIOS modes.....
[11:49] <Doomhammer> ah -- try 16 bit and see if it works
[11:49] <JDAcura> k
[11:49] <mdz> lamont: not if it's a USB scanner
[11:50] <Doomhammer> wtf why is there no /etc/X11 directory?
[11:50] <ogra> lamont: normally not even if its a scsi scanner....(at least in ubuntu)
[11:51] <Doomhammer> i want to patch mah kernel to use bootsplash
[11:51] <Doomhammer> so i downloaded the 2.6.9 sources and got the latest version of bootsplash for 2.6 kernels
[11:51] <lamont> would have helped if my wife hadn't powered off the scanner...
[11:51] <Doomhammer> and then i do "patch -p1 /usr/src/bootsplash-2.1.2-2.6.0-test9.diff" and it hangs..
[11:51] <ogra> lol
[11:51] <lamont> now the next question is how do I renable a printer under cupsys?
[11:51] <ogra> argh....
[11:52] <JDAcura>  using XF86Config-4 thats why
[11:52] <ogra> lamont: the gnome dialog works for most ppl very well ;)
[11:53] <lamont> machine has no gnome
[11:53] <lamont> it's a stripped down print server
[11:53] <vladster_> where do you find the settings config file for fire fox, I had it on saturday to tune the browser but lost it
[11:54] <ogra> lamont: hmm, there was a ML discussion how to enable the web interface for cups.....
[11:54] <lamont> ogra: that I _really_ don't want to do.
[11:54] <vladster_> I thought it was enabled by default
[11:55] <Doomhammer> how do i get MPlayer to play MP4 files?
[11:55] <ogra> lamont: if you disable it afterwards....
[11:55] <lamont> vladster_: it is, but listening on <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:55] <Doomhammer> ls
[11:55] <seymour> hi guys. rhythmbox in ubuntu is broken :(
[11:55] <vladster_> port 601 right?
[11:55] <lamont> ogra: if I did enable it, I'd need to figure out how to talk to it, etc.
[11:55] <lamont> seymour: define 'broken'
[11:55] <vladster_> use xmms, par superior
[11:55] <JDAcura> i got X to start but it is stuck in 640x480
[11:55] <seymour> i am trying to add a 25 gb music folder (including wma, album art and so on) and it brakes
[11:55] <seymour> *breaks
[11:55] <lamont> seymour: because it works for me...
[11:56] <ogra> seymour: for me too
[11:56] <lamont> hrm.. mine is only 13 GB, and purely music
[11:56] <Doomhammer> man Ubuntu comes with crap multimedia apps
[11:56] <JDAcura> and the XF86Config says it has more in modes but i cannot change it while in X
[11:56] <Doomhammer> i had to install XMMS and MPlayer manually
[11:56] <seymour> ogra, do you have wmas?
[11:56] <vladster_> sudo apt-get install xmms and you are reay to rock and roll
[11:56] <ogra> seymour: nope
[11:56] <Doomhammer> JDAcura: do you have X running?
[11:56] <JDAcura> doom: yes
[11:56] <Doomhammer> well you need to stop it from running
[11:57] <JDAcura> k then what
[11:57] <Doomhammer> but i don't know how, since ubuntu doesn't have a /etc/init.d ...
[11:57] <JDAcura> killall X
[11:57] <JDAcura> then what
[11:57] <ogra> Doomhammer: what ???
[11:57] <Doomhammer> god this is starting to piss me off, why does ubuntu have everything in different places?
[11:57] <vladster_> type control alt backspace also works too
[11:57] <JDahl> Doomhammer, what do you mean?
[11:57] <JDAcura> ya but i was having this prob last niht with mandrake
[11:57] <Doomhammer> ogra: /etc/init.d is a directory, not a file
[11:57] <ogra> Doomhammer: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:58] <lamont> sadly, sane doesn't seem to like the HP PSC-13154
[11:58] <lamont> s/4//
[11:58] <vladster_> that works too
[11:58] <Doomhammer> ogra: yes, but usually there is a config file (/etc/init.d) where you can change the default runlevel
[11:58] <ogra> Doomhammer: what else should init.d be ?
[11:58] <ogra> Doomhammer: you talk about inittab
[11:58] <Doomhammer> eep -- my bad
[11:58] <seymour> anyone using beep media player?
[11:58] <JDAcura> if i go to COMPUTER/ and in some menu / change screen resultion IT only HAS 640 x 480
[11:58] <lamont> Doomhammer: on what OS?
[11:59] <Doomhammer> lamont: i was thinking /etc/inittab from Gentoo -- not /etc/init.d :O
[11:59] <lamont> ah, ok.
[11:59] <Ensiferum> davmor2: ok. changed the ide drives to ide 1 controller
[11:59] <Ensiferum> still doesnt work
[11:59] <Ensiferum> i conclude that the distro is b0rked
[11:59] <ogra> JDAcura: you can change safely the config while being in X
[11:59] <Doomhammer> what doesn't work, Ensiferum?


[01:49] <holmanb> ananke: distro?
[02:16] <ananke> holmanb: ubuntu, debian, and kali.
[18:39] <minimal> this channel has been really quiet the past week or 2
[20:29]  * meena was away for CfgMgmtCamp
[20:51] <minimal> meena: ah, I was looking at the schedule for that earlier in the week
[23:42] <SuperLag> minimal: I'm using an app called Cubic to customize the standard Ubuntu server ISO to point to a local location for cloud-init data. What I wonder about is if there's a way to have cloud-init install a package from the same place the user-data is. It's a 3rd-party package, not in-repo.
[23:52] <dbungert> SuperLag: assuming you're talking autoinstall, we should take this to #ubuntu-server channel.  but start with https://canonical-subiquity.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/reference/autoinstall-reference.html#apt and https://curtin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/apt_source.html please, that outlines the process.