[05:08] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: interesting! i guess the box vonverts the DVI to usb, hence doind the drivers jobb...
[05:08] <sakrecoer> *converts
[07:34] <flocculant> sakrecoer: I'll try and be about a bit for you this week - we're not having anything to do with the b1 milestone so have a bit of time :)
[07:34] <flocculant> work now though :)
[07:34] <sakrecoer> flocculant: very kind of you, highly appreciated! :)
[07:34] <flocculant> cya later :)
[07:35] <sakrecoer> :) cya o/
[07:35] <flocculant> try and watch -release - I just pinged infinity and laney re your iso
[10:29] <geirdal> sakrecoer,  are we still going to do the gallery idea? I have at least 10 images that I can donate
[10:30] <sakrecoer> yeah, i think so :) not sure we have the appropriate format yet, but it would sure be a good thing to have.
[10:30] <geirdal> is autumna  working in it?
[10:31] <sakrecoer> right now she is on holliday, never the less, feel free to suggest anything in that regard :)
[10:33] <geirdal> she wanted to do this from scratch, we could start this by donate our work. I think that could work and then call for peoples art when website is up
[10:34] <geirdal> we need sound, I can give my art and we need video
[10:35] <geirdal> you had some sounds sakrecoer
[10:36] <sakrecoer> i do.. i'm not too sure i want to be the first adding sounds... i get enough frontrow as it is hehe.. but we should be on the look out for material. probably do an anouncement/campaign..
[10:39] <sakrecoer> i know for sure mike holstein has got sweet music made in ubuntustudio, maybe zequence? would be a good tribute to feature the founders and past contributors maybe? :)
[10:40] <geirdal> yes
[10:41] <geirdal> I still think its a good idea to use for video Blenders open movie projects for inspiration
[10:43] <sakrecoer> definitly :)
[10:51] <geirdal> there is a wallpaper contest, we could show some of that
[11:06] <flocculant> sakrecoer: fyi, I see you said studio doesn't install in -release, I've successfully done so on kvm this morning
[11:07] <sakrecoer> flocculant: hm.. with the daily, or the one from 18th in the tracker?
[11:08] <flocculant> one from the tracker, it's your only working iso :)
[11:08] <sakrecoer> i tried hardware install on both my machines with the daily and it failed...
[11:08] <flocculant> not sure who you need to talk to about packages and dependencies
[11:09] <sakrecoer> flocculant: this one http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/129062/downloads?
[11:09] <sakrecoer> because i tried this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/
[11:10] <flocculant> mmm if you look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/yakkety/daily-live-20160822.log
[11:10] <flocculant> at the bottom you can see it thinks it's purged old images and successfully added at 02:23 this morning
[11:11] <flocculant> I think someone on -release needs to whack the tracker a bit
[11:12] <flocculant> and yea that one
[11:12] <sakrecoer> ok... thank you!
[11:13] <flocculant> one on the 19th likely had no networking nor desktop - that would have been smack bang in the middle of some systemd problems iirc
[11:13] <sakrecoer> ok.. yeah, bothe DE and networking were bananas in the live session.
[11:13] <flocculant> yup
[11:14] <flocculant> you should find that when you have a real iso on the tracker those will be fixed - they are for us
[11:15] <sakrecoer> oh wait... that log is for xubuntu..
[11:16] <flocculant> oh whoops :p
[11:16] <flocculant> just change xubuntu to ubuntustudio then :)
[11:16] <sakrecoer> yeah... http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/yakkety/
[11:16] <flocculant> I did wonder why you were suddenly building at the same time as us lol
[11:16] <sakrecoer> i mean... http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/yakkety/dvd-20160821.log
[11:17] <sakrecoer> so.. "LiveBuildsFailed: No live filesystem builds succeeded."
[11:17] <flocculant> aah yes 963 bytes - that'll be a fail build then :D
[11:17] <flocculant> sorry for getting your hopes up ...
[11:17] <sakrecoer> but hey, at least got a chance to taste embarassment in -release whcih is good because my skin gets harder :D
[11:18] <sakrecoer> i might sound cynical, but i'm super greatfull for your tip flocculant :)
[11:18] <flocculant> you can see more about 'what' failed at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/280197910/buildlog_ubuntu_yakkety_i386_ubuntustudio_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:19] <sakrecoer> yeah tahnks! that is what was emailed .. good to know where to find those!
[11:19] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/yakkety/ubuntustudio
[11:20] <flocculant> anyway - afaik Laney is running b1 from the canonical side if flavour people help - so he's likely the one to talk to
[11:20] <flocculant> meantime - off out again now :)
[11:21] <sakrecoer> ok! ryl! o/
[11:21] <sakrecoer> thank you flocculant :)
[11:39] <geirdal> sakrecoer, would like to see the gallery in a magazine format hybrid gallery
[11:41] <sakrecoer> and how does such a format look?
[11:42] <sakrecoer> geirdal ^
[11:42] <geirdal> can make a mockup
[11:43] <sakrecoer> sure.. :) keep in mind it has to work with wordpress
[11:43] <geirdal> ok
[16:26] <zequence> New ardour in debian
[16:26] <zequence> Now would be a good time to do a request-sync. I can't do it atm. Will have to be somewhere soon.
[16:26] <zequence> I'll notify the mail list
[16:33] <OvenWerks> zequence: is that 5.0.5?
[19:02] <sakrecoer> i'm looking at this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess but i don't realy know how to "ensure the Ubuntu changes have been merged"..
[19:05] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I am not worried if this is merged or not. I would assume (could be wrong) that this is the 5.0.5 release. So far as I know this release does not add or fix anything in Ardour itself but rather something that allows the Ardour.org packages to build correctly.
[19:06] <OvenWerks> So if Ardour 5.0 bulds correctly, and installs/runs ok we may not gain anything anyway.
[19:06] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: :) i guess i was hoping to read it was super easy, and that i could easily discharge some work payload..
[19:06] <OvenWerks> 5.1 would be worthwhile
[19:06] <OvenWerks> But it is not here yet
[19:07] <sakrecoer> :)
[19:07]  * OvenWerks pushes yet another bit for the Ardour OSC setup GUI...
[19:07] <sakrecoer> :/ iso failed 20 minutes ago...
[19:08] <sakrecoer> same error, with gnupg..
[19:08] <sakrecoer> and kactivitymanagerd
[19:09] <OvenWerks> Ya I see that. Has anyone dropped a bug on that package?
[19:10] <sakrecoer> i poked the release team about it, they were looking..
[19:10] <sakrecoer> but i don't know... are we the only one to distribute those?
[19:10] <OvenWerks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg/+bug/1615039
[19:11] <OvenWerks> part of this maybe?
[19:13] <sakrecoer> maybe.. apw said "have renamed gnupg to gnupg1 in debian, which will wreak havoc with our delta"
[19:13] <OvenWerks> there is a gnupg2 as well.
[19:13] <sakrecoer> "looks a little like they- have renamed" etc..
[19:14] <sakrecoer> < xnox> apw, yeah, and we need to merge new gpg2 to take that.
[19:14] <sakrecoer> the mysteries of the universe in my head: why is it only breaking ours? :D
[19:15] <OvenWerks> Well, initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core needs it which may mean nobody is building.
[19:15] <flocculant> OvenWerks: we're building fine
[19:15] <OvenWerks> Maybe we depend on an older version of one of it's depends
[19:16] <OvenWerks> flocculant: just got two emails that says different
[19:16] <flocculant> OvenWerks: you said 'may mean nobody is building' and in this context from me, we is xubuntu :p
[19:16] <OvenWerks> Ah :)
[19:17] <sakrecoer> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds
[19:17] <sakrecoer> looks like most flavours had a successfull build today
[19:17] <OvenWerks> so we should be looking at the depend that is failing and seeing what we have that requires it.
[19:18] <flocculant> sakrecoer: except kubuntu - who'll be wanting the other one you're failing to build with at least
[19:18] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: can you paste the line from the failure? I seem to have gotten rid of it already :P
[19:19] <sakrecoer> you mean this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnupg1 : Breaks: gnupg (< 1.4.20-6+exp1) but 1.4.20-6ubuntu1 is to be installed, kactivitymanagerd : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.20~) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[19:20] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks ^
[19:20] <OvenWerks> yes
[19:20] <sakrecoer> flocculant: :)
[19:20] <sakrecoer> well.. not that it makes me happy, but its good to know we are not alone lol
[19:39] <OvenWerks> it appears we have something that says it requires gnupg1
[19:40] <OvenWerks> I am not even sure what we have that requires gnupg
[19:40] <OvenWerks> we do not ask for it directly
[19:41] <sakrecoer> how can we find out?
[19:41] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I do not know how to trace what gnupg is a dep of that we have.
[19:42] <OvenWerks>  We could install a xubuntu ISO and then add our metas to till it chokes.
[19:42] <OvenWerks> But I would bet someone with more packaging/apt-get experience has a command that would trace things back.
[19:45] <sakrecoer> apt-cache rdepends gnupg showed me snapd among a big bunch of others..
[19:45] <sakrecoer> althoug admitdely, i have installed a hole bunch of things on this machine..
[19:46] <sakrecoer> thigns that mught be using it.
[19:46] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: the things is, it is the one thing on there that is looking for gnupg1
[19:46] <OvenWerks> (or something that is inside it)
[19:47] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: ? the one thing? in where?
[19:48] <OvenWerks> a depend that is looking for gnupg or even gnupg 1.4.20 will not fail. there is something that wants 1.4.20-6+exp1 which comes in gnupg in debian these days.
[19:49] <OvenWerks> What do we have that is a new version since 16.04?
[19:50] <OvenWerks> what are the packages we just added in our meta update?
[19:51] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: this item list: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development
[19:51] <sakrecoer> as far as i know,...
[19:52] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: kryten gave me this link the other day: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev should list the lastest changes
[19:55] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: maybe this one is better: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.yakkety
[19:55] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I am going through the commits
[19:56] <OvenWerks> Ya that
[19:56] <sakrecoer> easier to see what has happened in the seeds
[19:56] <sakrecoer> thanks OvenWerks :)
[19:56] <sakrecoer> maybe i should ask in -release?
[19:58] <OvenWerks> I don't know
[19:58] <flocculant> OvenWerks: you might make more sense of the discussion in -release about gnupg and kactivitymanagerd >https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/22/%23ubuntu-release.html#t14:23
[19:58] <flocculant> seems that the 2 issues for studio are related
[19:59] <OvenWerks> Ah, It just seemed to me that the last seed update came very close to the time we started having trouble.
[19:59] <flocculant> you, edubuntu and kubuntu are the only people to use kmanagerd, (edubuntu doesn't show on tracker now)
[20:00] <OvenWerks> so we should look for things that are kde based like kdenlive
[20:00] <flocculant> I'd think so
[20:01] <flocculant> also look in ubuntustudio-audio, as that's where apt-cache show gnupg1 points
[20:02] <OvenWerks> None of the late additions directly uses gnupg that I can see.
[20:02] <flocculant> maybe so - but kubuntu have been all over the place this cycle so maybe something has gone on over there that's impacted you
[20:02] <OvenWerks> flocculant: really... ok. I don't have a 16.10 partition yet so hard to test.
[20:06] <flocculant> OvenWerks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23079393/
[20:07] <OvenWerks> I would have thought graphics or video (even office) where we have known kde stuff
[20:08] <flocculant> yea
[20:08] <flocculant> understood - I'm just giving you what I see from apt
[20:08] <sakrecoer> yeah that is odd.. i can't imagin any of those audio packages would need gpg.. but what do i know...
[20:08] <flocculant> but I also end up floundering a bit
[20:08] <sakrecoer> would "recommends" pull it in?
[20:09] <OvenWerks> kid3?
[20:09] <sakrecoer> that would be new...
[20:09] <OvenWerks> it doesn't ask for any kde libs though
[20:09] <sakrecoer> kid3 needing it... woudl be new...
[20:09] <flocculant> sakrecoer: doesn't need to need gpg - needs to need kmanagerd according to xnox - which should use gnupg onstead
[20:09] <sakrecoer> its QT afaik
[20:10] <sakrecoer> flocculant: ok...
[20:10] <flocculant> I think that's right anyway lol
[20:10] <flocculant> could be the blind leading the blind here ;)
[20:10] <sakrecoer> lol :)
[20:10] <sakrecoer> better than no one helping no one :p
[20:10] <OvenWerks> I think I am back to DL and install xubuntu and adding metas...
[20:11] <sakrecoer> flocculant: didn't the iso from he 18th install alright?
[20:11] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: we include all the recomends in the metas.
[20:11] <sakrecoer> ubuntustudio, you told me you tried that one didn't you?
[20:11] <flocculant> anyway - this is all magic to me - I'm only about to help when needed for beta1 :p
[20:11] <flocculant> sakrecoer: yea the iso on the tracker installs fine
[20:12] <flocculant> sakrecoer: I wonder if you try the one you have which failed - but don't tell it to install -audio
[20:12] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/129062/downloads
[20:12] <OvenWerks> What date is that one?
[20:12] <flocculant> the time is now 2112 - seems like a good time to stop this and put 2112 on instead - night all :)
[20:13] <flocculant> OvenWerks: 18th
[20:13] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: that on is from the 18th.
[20:13] <sakrecoer> flocculant: worth trying...
[20:13] <OvenWerks> mine says 19th
[20:13] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: i tried installing the 19th yesterday and it wouldn't install on 2 machines..
[20:14] <OvenWerks> I wonder about curl
[20:15] <flocculant> sakrecoer: what I find a bit bizarre is that I supposedly got 18th from tracker, zsync from your 19th iso made no changes
[20:15] <sakrecoer> yeah, thats weird...
[20:16] <flocculant> I can quikcly try installing that in vm without -audio
[20:16] <OvenWerks> krita takes kde runtime
[20:17] <sakrecoer> it does, krita, kdenlive.. those are the ones i can think of...
[20:17] <OvenWerks> and kde-helpcenter
[20:18] <OvenWerks> kdenlive does not ask for kde runtime as happens.
[20:19] <sakrecoer> hmm.. i'm confused now
[20:19] <OvenWerks> krita pulls in a buch of calligra... makes one wonder we don't just include that.
[20:20] <OvenWerks> *bunch
[20:25] <OvenWerks> It looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg/+bug/1615039 may be the fix of it though
[20:27] <flocculant> that'd be the one sakrecoer should point -release team at I would assume for when you've got no images to test beta against
[20:48] <sakrecoer> sorry guys, had to get emergency sandwich
[20:55] <sakrecoer> flocculant, OvenWerks i poked in -release and linked to that bug...
[20:55] <sakrecoer> not too confident on what to tell them.. let's see how they respond ..
[20:56] <OvenWerks> "No ISO to test"?
[20:57] <sakrecoer> < sakrecoer> hello, our iso still fails for same reason. we are having troubles finding what is using gpg1, we have no working image to look in... could this have something to do with it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg/+bug/1615039
[20:58] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: what... do you mean?
[20:58] <sakrecoer> ah.. a suggestion of what to tell them?
[20:59] <sakrecoer> "will work for ISO" :D
[21:24] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: < jbicha> sakrecoer: deken depends on python-gnupg which depends on gnupg1
[21:24] <sakrecoer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deken
[21:24] <sakrecoer> jbicha added:
[21:24] <sakrecoer> < jbicha> sakrecoer: here, let me revert python-gnupg to 0.3.8-2  to see if that fixes things for this week
[21:25] <OvenWerks> I wondered if it was one of those python things.
[21:29] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: he said he "found by digging through germinate"...
[21:29] <sakrecoer> what is germinate?
[21:30] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: ok, i see its a tool
[21:32] <sakrecoer> For the log, if anyone else wonders: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Germinate
[21:33] <sakrecoer> i have to sign off...
[21:33] <sakrecoer> thanks for your help flocculant and OvenWerks ! :)
[21:33] <sakrecoer> let's hope we have an ISO tomorrow. g'night o/
[22:32] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks, flocculant, and everyone... i forgot to forward this
[22:32] <sakrecoer> 23:33 #ubuntu-release: < jbicha> sakrecoer: done, so we'll just have to retry  the iso build tomorrow once germinate has  picked up the change
[22:33] <flocculant> read it there :)
[22:33] <sakrecoer> :)
[22:34] <sakrecoer> it hit me before slumber, thought OvenWerks might want to know :)
[22:34] <sakrecoer> bye now! o/
[22:35] <flocculant> night :)


[08:33] <mlankhorst> morning
[11:08] <rye> Hello, I am suffering from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1100360/ starting from raring - is there anything I (or other people in the bug report) can do to debug this?
[11:15] <tjaalton> rye: the other bug has a pointer to the upstream bug..
[11:26] <tjaalton> rye: echo 0 > /sys/modules/i915/parameters/semaphores
[11:26] <tjaalton> try if that helps
[11:27] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: are you planning to do a sru of mesa9 to quantal?
[11:29] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: at some point yes, 9.0.1 would be nice to have
[11:29] <tjaalton> although it's possible that it regressed intel, bug 1100970
[11:30] <mlankhorst> yeah personally I want 9.0.2, i pulled a bunch of nouveau fixes :)
[11:30] <tjaalton> is it released?
[11:30] <mlankhorst> dno
[11:30] <tjaalton> doesn't seem like it
[11:31] <mlankhorst> I did a bunch of nouveau cherry picks after 9.0.1 release
[11:33] <mlankhorst> maybe I should do some more now :)
[11:34] <tjaalton> go for it
[11:48] <mlankhorst> hm, did you build llvm-3.2 with the radeon additions yet?
[11:53] <tjaalton> no, and not going to
[11:53] <mlankhorst> ah, why?
[11:53] <tjaalton> doko won't like the idea
[11:54] <tjaalton> *doesn't
[11:54] <tjaalton> just drop radeonsi
[11:56] <mlankhorst> :/
[11:57] <mlankhorst> will llvm-3.3 be released in time?
[11:58] <tjaalton> in time for what? raring? no
[11:59] <tjaalton> upstream says radeonsi isn't useful anyway
[12:03] <f4bs> when will 310/313 come to quantal?
[12:04] <f4bs> quantal still has 304.64
[12:08] <tjaalton> -experimental-310 is there
[12:12] <tjaalton> tseliot: that package probably should be removed from raring?
[12:12] <tjaalton> tseliot: -experimental-310
[12:12] <mlankhorst> yeah but still you'll get people that want to try it :/
[12:12] <tjaalton> and maybe backport -310..
[12:12] <tjaalton> raring has -310 already
[12:13] <tjaalton> nvidia-graphics-drivers-310 which has the latest version, and -experimental-310 which is an older one :)
[12:17] <f4bs> well i think i switch to xorg-edgers
[12:22] <tseliot> tjaalton: yes, we should remove -experimental-310
[21:17] <bryce> I see debian-experimental is merged into the ubuntu git tree as of a couple weeks ago, yet that version isn't uploaded to raring?
[21:19] <bryce> I need to put a patch into xserver (for nexus7).  Should I roll back what's in git to match whats in the archive?
[21:20] <tjaalton> sorry
[21:20] <tjaalton> huh
[21:21] <bryce> it looks like we've pushed a bunch of our changes up to debian, which is good, but it's not released there
[21:21] <tjaalton> there's some clash again
[21:22] <tjaalton> oh..
[21:22] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: you merged xserver master to ubuntu, not ubuntu+1
[21:23] <bryce> ah
[21:23] <tjaalton> I thought my tree wasn't pushed, but it was
[21:25] <bryce> guess we need a branch ubuntu+1-1 ?  ;-)
[21:25] <tjaalton> heh
[21:26] <tjaalton> nah I guess it could be reset back to 56953a24f021a67
[21:26] <bryce> tjaalton, are you aware of any ABI breakage so far in 1.14?
[21:26] <tjaalton> or just use ubuntu+1 which has the same
[21:26] <tjaalton> bryce: both video & input abi's have been bumped
[21:26] <bryce> tjaalton, thanks
[21:27] <tjaalton> so it's the usual dance again
[21:27] <bryce> tjaalton, so yeah we're gonna want to hold off on pulling this 1.3.99 stuff in until nvidia's had a chance to update the arm drivers I guess
[21:27] <tjaalton> nvidia has added support in the latest releases, doubt we have those yet though
[21:27] <bryce> (+ -nvidia and -fglrx)
[21:27] <tjaalton> right tegra will be a problem I think
[21:27] <bryce> been emailing ogra & co about that
[21:28] <bryce> someone will chase it down
[21:28] <tjaalton> what's the patch btw?
[21:30] <bryce> the one to fix touch movement with the screen rotated
[21:30] <bryce> 237_dix_save_touchpoint_last_coords_before_transform.patch
[21:31] <bryce> commit 3b9f1c701787965246638c1a6fd99fb2b6078114
[21:31] <bryce> I've verified raring+nexus7 still needs it, and is fixed once it's applied
[21:32] <tjaalton> ah, it's in the latest pull request for 1.13.x
[21:33] <tjaalton> huh, I dropped it
[21:33] <tjaalton> way to go
[21:35] <bryce> so... do I not need to patch it in?
[21:35] <tjaalton> yeah you do, it's not in upstream 1.13.x yet.. dunno why I dropped it, probably failed to apply for some reason
[21:36] <bryce> there were two patches; the one that was posted to the ML originally that you pointed me at, and one from after peter's review comments - which is the one that was accepted
[21:37] <bryce> both patches still apply to our xserver, but the former was the one we had in the quantal staging, so perhaps you were looking at that and dropped it because you knew the newer one was available?
[21:37] <tjaalton> no idea :)
[21:37] <tjaalton> strong work nevertheless
[21:38] <bryce> yeah, anyway, do you want to reset the tree back or shall I have a go?
[21:38] <tjaalton> hmm
[21:39] <tjaalton> let's see
[21:40] <tjaalton> guess there aren't that many consumers of the ubuntu branch that an innocent git reset matters much :)
[21:40] <tjaalton> pushed ubuntu+1 with what was there
[21:41] <tjaalton> and forced ubuntu
[21:41] <tjaalton> bryce: so it should be set now, ubuntu has what raring has now, ubuntu+1 has the staged stuff by mlankhorst
[21:42] <bryce> tjaalton, push?
[21:42] <bryce> $ git pull
[21:42] <bryce> From ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/xserver/xorg-server
[21:42] <bryce>  + 6efcd5b...56953a2 ubuntu     -> origin/ubuntu  (forced update)
[21:42] <bryce>    9e211da..6efcd5b  ubuntu+1   -> origin/ubuntu+1
[21:42] <bryce> Already up-to-date.
[21:43] <tjaalton> bryce: git fetch origin; git checkout ubuntu; git reset --hard origin/ubuntu
[21:43] <tjaalton> your local tree is "newer" than origin
[21:43] <tjaalton> need to reset it
[21:44] <bryce> ok got it.  I just deleted the branch and repulled it
[21:44] <bryce> tjaalton, thanks!
[21:44] <tjaalton> np, sorry for dropping the patch :)
[21:44] <tjaalton> some brainf... there
[22:03] <bryce> wtf?  gcc: error trying to exec 'as': execvp: No such file or directory
[22:21] <mlankhorst> well the input abi bump got in for the xserver, so I guess it' s just waiting for rc2 now
[22:29] <bryce> weird, 2nd pbuilder of xserver passed.  huh.
[23:15] <mlankhorst> bryce: did it fail on xvfb?
[23:16] <mlankhorst> sometimes the debian/tmp/main/usr/bin/xvfb-run test hangs :/
[23:19] <bryce> mlankhorst, maybe, although the error was that gcc/as error I pasted so dunno
[23:19] <bryce> we'll see how it builds in the archive...
[23:21] <bryce> Sarvatt, had to play 10 min of Dungeons of Dredmor to get my son to take a nap; Dutch wanted to see my "Mustache friend kill the bad guys" before he'd settle down


[00:48] <whitepowder> i'm trying to put together a recovery usb stick. It has 2 partitions (fat16 2gb and btrfs 14gb) I've got syslinux, freedos, grub4dos, and my preseed configs on it. I need to be able to install 12.04.4 from this, configured pretty much entirely automatically. I'd like to keep the preseed in the fat16 part, so it can be changed from a windows box if needed. Ideas? So far im having problems with iso being rejected by d-i,
[00:48] <whitepowder> CLosest i had this to working was using the hd-media installer from 12.04 but that gave problems since 12.04.4 uses a newer kernel and it complained modules didnt match. Is there a place to get the hd-media installer for 12.04.4?
[00:49] <whitepowder> I probably should note that im using kubuntu but that doesnt really matter i suppose
[00:51] <whitepowder> Ideally, i could put packages (a partial local mirror) on the second partition and the installer find them there. Could i then use net-install image? Sorry to be so annoying but i really need to get this recovery disk going so i can get home from visiting family
[01:08] <melodie> whitepow1er why fat16 and not fat32?
[01:09] <whitepow1er> melodie: its 2gb partition, easier to work with from other os if keep it fat16
[01:09] <melodie> the main goal for btrfs in usb stick, is what?
[01:10] <whitepow1er> melodie: the second partition could be any fs (ext[234] or btrfs), just used btrfs as the guide i was initially working off of used it. That partition is to store packages, our programs, configs etc that need to be installed
[01:11] <melodie> whitepow1er because the first thing I understood from your demand is "recovery usb stick"
[01:12] <melodie> when I create usb boots, I use either the usb-creator-gtk tool to get a working usb stick with persistency, on Fat32 which allows adding files that can be accessed from other os'es (windows, mac, linux whatever)
[01:12] <melodie> or
[01:12] <whitepow1er> melodie: my end goal is a usb stick that can be stuck in the machine and either booted from as a read-only minimal live system (no GUI and works now) or installing a system using preseed to avoid the user having to be smart
[01:13] <whitepow1er> been having some issues trying to get hd-media working, what i've gathered from google is that it has been broke since 11.x
[01:14] <melodie> if you got such a big usb stick why not do a simple fat32/grub2/iso multiboot thing?
[01:14] <melodie> I have done that recently with a tutorial found at the ubuntu-fr.org wiki, I have 3 isos booted from the grub2 stanza
[01:14] <melodie> I can add other iso images and do the dame
[01:14] <melodie> same
[01:14] <melodie> it boots iso images
[01:14] <whitepow1er> I cant directly use grub2 from usb stick, i've only been able to get things to boot from syslinux, tho i supposei  could chainload grub2
[01:15] <whitepow1er> im not sure how i'd provide the preseed file to the installer then, since it'd be quite a pain to have to remaster the iso every time it needs small changes
[01:15] <melodie> why can't you? If I could (and I just followed a simple tutorial) what is the isse you would meet with?
[01:16] <whitepow1er> melodie: im going to assume bios bug but never have been able to get grub2 to work from usb stick on this machine (same stick worked on others), whereas syslinux just works
[01:16] <melodie> I haven't played with preceed files so far, but I suppose it could be changed directly with file-roller
[01:16] <melodie> you might want to try
[01:16] <melodie> whitepow1er oh yes, bios bugs happen
[01:17] <melodie> have you also tried to boot it using a plop boot manager cd?
[01:17] <whitepow1er> I dont have an optical drive
[01:17] <melodie> so another stick maybe?
[01:17] <melodie> plop holds in a floppy, so even a very small usb stick could be used
[01:17] <whitepow1er> I've got an idea but idk if its any more useful than the hd-media stuff i've been fighting with all day
[01:18] <whitepow1er> booting the net-install image and putting a partial local mirror on the 2nd partition of the usb stick, then point at it as the mirror
[01:20] <melodie> whitepow1er you use 12.04, right?
[01:20] <melodie> and isolinux
[01:20] <whitepow1er> syslinux yea
[01:20] <melodie> or syslinux
[01:21] <melodie> you can use the initrd.lz and vmlinux instead of hd-media
[01:21] <melodie> the ones from your iso image
[01:21] <melodie> and use the content of the txt.cfg to create your syslinux.cfg
[01:21] <whitepow1er> tried those from install/ in the iso, get 'Incorrect CD-ROM' error
[01:22] <melodie> have you extracted them and copied them to the / of the usb stick?
[01:22] <melodie> they usually need to be "close to the surface"
[01:22] <melodie> on a primary partition that is
[01:23] <whitepow1er> Yes to /boot on part 0 of the stick. Now, If i use the hd-media install from 12.04 (couldnt find 12.04.4) i can get a little further, in that it recognizes the iso but fails because different kernel version in the 12.04.4 iso
[01:24] <melodie> whitepow1er I have been using Ubuntu builder since months, with the ubuntu mini remix iso, and this is very fast to make an iso : the program is no longer developed but I continue using it, and hopefully, a buddy who is interested will take on to continue it
[01:24] <melodie> just a few minutes are necessary each time, to make a new one
[01:25] <melodie> I haven't used the products on else than fat32 sticks though, so I don't know how it would go there
[01:25] <whitepow1er> im pretty sure there wouldnt be much difference from fat16 to fat32 honestly
[01:25] <whitepow1er> besides supporting large file system and files
[01:25] <melodie> all I know about fat16 is that I have seen it on cards for numeric cameras
[01:26] <melodie> else than that I didn't know it could support large files
[01:26] <melodie> Fat32 : aren't iso files large files?
[01:26] <whitepow1er> 2gb is the limit
[01:26] <melodie> ok I see
[01:26] <melodie> and what is the limit for fat16?
[01:26] <whitepow1er> fat16 is 2gb file size limit, im not sure what fat32 is
[01:27] <melodie> ok
[01:27] <melodie> 4 GB minus one octet
[01:27] <melodie> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32#Limitations_de_FAT32
[01:28] <melodie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_of_the_FAT_file_system#Size_limits
[01:29] <whitepow1er> i wasnt sure, never got around to adding fat32 support to my kernel, barely used fat at all besides in the boot loader
[01:29] <melodie> what method do you use for remastering?
[01:30] <melodie> just curious
[01:31] <whitepow1er> trying to avoid remastering, honestly
[01:31] <melodie> too much work?
[01:32] <melodie> I mean you have been doing it manually, sort of From Scratch method or so?
[01:32] <whitepow1er> i was trying to get the hd-media installer stuff working, so i could just use a plain old -alternate iso and a preseed config
[01:33] <melodie> kubuntu made lighter?
[01:34] <melodie> you also said you used kde?
[01:34] <whitepow1er> Ideally, updating the stick to a newer ubuntu then would just require replacing the iso image, editing syslinux.cfg to point to the new iso and if something big changed, editing the preseed file
[01:34] <melodie> yes, that sounds nice
[01:35] <melodie> I'll have to have a look at these preceed files more closely
[01:35] <melodie> how do you point to your preceed file? do you change it inside the iso?
[01:35] <whitepow1er> melodie: preseed automates the installation, from what ive gathered from irc and google, you have to use the alternate cd for fully unattended
[01:36] <melodie> I don't really know what is "unattended" as in "Checking for unattended upgrades" shutdown message. :?
[01:37] <whitepow1er> melodie:    append initrd=boot/kubuntu32/initrd.gz preseed/file=/hd-media/preseed/ninja.seed file=/iso/kubuntu-12.04.4-alternate-i386.iso
[01:37] <whitepow1er> melodie: Unattended means without user having to answer questions, its all in the preseed file
[01:38] <melodie> no questions... he does not have to choose from a list of packages: is that so?
[01:38] <melodie> as in the Ubuntu server, you have to choose from lists of meta packages or lists of packages: is that what it is about?
[01:39] <whitepow1er> melodie: Language, host name, pretty much anything that the installer would ask can be put into preseed file
[01:39] <whitepow1er> As little or as much settings as needed
[01:39] <melodie> ok...
[01:39] <whitepow1er> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[01:39] <melodie> thanks, I'll add this to a few pages I need to read
[01:43] <melodie> whitepow1er what about the users you were mentioning just before? are you also doing this to hand over you usb stick to some people who will just use it?
[01:43] <whitepow1er> melodie: Just to the owner of the computer im dealing with
[01:44] <whitepow1er> maybe in the future other friends/family too, when they have more complicated set ups
[01:44] <melodie> will he have to install from that stick?
[01:45] <melodie> or just use in read only mode?
[01:45] <whitepow1er> install from stick, just without all the questions and partitioning and stuff. It's kinda like the recovery disk come with windows computer
[01:45] <whitepow1er> erase computer (except /home) and reinstall things
[01:46] <melodie> except home
[01:46] <melodie> I was thinking about obi, the method provided by sudodu, but this erases the disk fully
[01:47] <melodie> and 9w whatever it is
[01:50] <melodie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OBI
[01:54] <melodie> ok, good night. whitepow1er good luck!
[06:31] <dholbach> good morning


[03:50] <axw_> hey folks, we're looking at upgrading some juju 1.25 environments running on MAAS (1.9) to juju 2.x. one thing we need to be able to do is change the agent_name associated with nodes. is that possible through the API? doesn't look like it. any recommendations?
[04:28] <mup> Bug #1697986 changed: API returns object is not iterable to valid API request for server deployment <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1697986>
[10:33] <engel75> hi all
[10:35] <engel75> just a short question about maas (using it the 1st time), I would like to install 9 physical hosts including LACP (bonding) networking, softwareraid, .... How to create a curtin template used by those 9 nodes?
[12:42] <engel75> this guide is still relevant: http://caribou.kamikamamak.com/2015/06/26/custom-partitioning-with-maas-and-curtin-2/   ?
[15:24] <bryan_att> hi anyone - do you know what preseed command I would use to get MAAS to deploy centos to sdb vs sda (sda is my ssd, sdb is my hdd) ? By default MAAS seems to want to deploy to the 1st disk.
[16:23] <tizmo> hello. is there a way that I can give a node a static route during commissioning before it runs the info gathering scripts?
[16:24] <tizmo> i'm using MAAS 2.2.2.
[16:25] <tizmo> I tested out using the Static Route option under Subnets, but that doesn't seem to apply to commissioning.
[16:32] <blizzow> Let's say I want to deploy an ubuntu server using maas but I want the boot and root partitions to be an mdadm raid1 device? Is that possible?
[17:08] <blizzow> Also, I am trying to deploy the standard centos image to a Dell Server. The installation output ends with "curtin: installation finished" and a few lines before that, it says no error reported.  But maas seems to get stuck in a deploying state for a long time only to finish at a failure.
[17:10] <bryan_att> blizzow: that's what we are doing too, and there are a number of potential issues. I can get it to work (but not completely as desired) with a preseed file that I will paste here.
[17:17] <bryan_att> blizzow: here is the example, this addresses (1) issue which is that MAAS does not support static IP config for Centos. If that's not what you are trying to do, this may not apply. I'll add some more known issues and workarounds / WIP too. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/14iY2EkF/
[17:21] <bryan_att> blizzow: issue (2) is that MAAS will try to deploy the OS on the 1st disk found (e.g. sda, which  for me is a 256GB SSD and sdb is a 1TB HDD). This can cause various issues, e.g. if Ubuntu was installed on sdb previously the server may boot to Ubuntu, blocking completion of cloud-init (per the MAAS server's visibility of it). I have not yet found a way to force MAAS to deploy on the 2nd disk.
[17:24] <blizzow> bryan_att: I'm currently running dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M on the server to wipe that first disk that had an old ubuntu installation on it. I guess you're saying I should append these  adduser commands and network configuration lines to my /etc/maas/preseeds/curtin_userdata_centos file?
[17:24] <blizzow> I'm fine with actually having the machine come up with a DHCP address and reconfiguring it after. I'm only installing centOS to run a firmware update and then blow the machine away with ubuntu again.
[17:25] <blizzow> dd on a 4TB disk takes tooo long.
[17:26] <bryan_att> blizzow: issue (3) is that at least 5 mins may be required for a deploy to complete if MAAS (for deploying Centos) is not set for DHCP over the 1st NIC to come up. Note this is not an issue when deploying Ubuntu. I use  preseed file above which takes effect but only after MAAS ignores DHCP requests for 5 mins from the 1st NIC (we don't have that one connected to a MAAS rack conrtoller yet)
[17:27] <bryan_att> blizzow: you should also be able to release the machine and have MAAS do the wiping for you. I select wipe disk with fast option.
[17:29] <bryan_att> blizzow: re the actual problem you have I'm not sure. the issues I have found are related to (1) using a 2nd disk for install; (2) having multiple NICs and trying to PXE over one other than the 1st.
[17:34] <mup> Bug #1710681 opened: [2.3] Cannot delete an Ubuntu image, "Update Selection" is disabled <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1710681>
[18:12] <bryan_att> roaksoax: can you give me an example of a preseed file that will instruct MAAS to deploy on device sdb? I'm sort of stumbling in the direction of this but the docs are very slim and the curtin command line does not match what is supported in the preseed file afaict.
[18:21] <blizzow> My maas controller is has discovery enabled but none of the IPs are getting resolved in the device discovery section.  Is there something I have to do in order to get device discovery to resolve names?  I do a dig -x ipaddresshere from my maas machine and it gives the FQDN of the host at the ip address.
[20:02] <mup> Bug #1710241 changed: Cannot deploy customized ubuntu cloud image <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1710241>
[21:07] <roaksoax> engel75: maas supports software raid and bonding . Software raid for Ubuntu only. Bonding for centos as well (but only for 2.3+)
[21:08] <roaksoax> bryan_att: i'll need to look into it, as we dont really support custom storage config for centos. Curtin picks the first disk it finds
[21:08] <roaksoax> blizzow: check the console, it may not have booted onto the disk afterwards
[21:21] <bryan_att> roaksoax: ok, but I think that does not reflect the real diversity of HW e.g. servers with an SSD as sda and HDD as sdb
[21:27] <blizzow> roaksoax: I'm using serial over lan so I'm kind of blind once pxe boot hits. Deploying the default CentOS7 image from maas 2.2 just hangs at deploying. From what I can tell, it forces centos to install to sda but ubuntu I can set to install to sdc which ends up being the boot drive because sda/sdb are drives connected to a pci slot.
[22:46] <roaksoax> blizzow: probably becuase you are not passing kernel params to enable the console
[22:46] <roaksoax> blizzow: but my wild guess is that it tries to boot onto a different disk than the one where it has been installed into
[23:09] <blizzow> roaksoax: any idea what kernel params I should pass to enable the serial over lan console?


[04:24] <wonderboy> is ubuntu studio being used in any audio recording studio? any link about those writings? (i am just a free software enthusiast, about to visit an audio studio, refering a bit to show them what all we got;-) )
[04:24] <holstein> hey wonderboy
[04:24] <wonderboy> hai
[04:24]  * holstein looking
[04:24] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians
[04:24] <wonderboy> oh cool
[04:25] <holstein> all kinds of those guys use linux
[04:26] <holstein> wonderboy: http://www.sae.edu/en-gb/content/80/Ardour_-_SAE_Edition
[04:26] <holstein> have you read about that?
[04:26] <holstein> very cool
[04:26] <acerimmer__> wonderboy: 64studio uses a linux distro almost identical to ubuntustudio
[04:26] <holstein> not happening anymore AFAIK
[04:26] <holstein> 64 uses hardy
[04:26] <holstein> 8.04
[04:26] <holstein> in the 3.x release
[04:26] <holstein> BUT its been in beta longer than gmail
[04:26] <holstein> ;p
[04:27] <acerimmer__> yeah, 64studio forums are VERY quiet and the next upgrade is "when it's done"
[04:28] <holstein> its dead
[04:28] <holstein> ive been in #64studio for about a year now
[04:28] <holstein> i could output all the logs from that in here and not get kicked for flooding
[04:29] <holstein> too bad
[04:29] <holstein> ive tried getting loud a couple places
[04:29] <acerimmer__> holstein: i wondered about the project.  64 came  out after ubuntu studio and used virtually the same packages so why bother?
[04:29] <holstein> http://www.indamixx.com/
[04:29] <holstein> from what i understand
[04:30] <holstein> this is hardy/64studio
[04:30] <holstein> i think there was a need there for a while
[04:30] <holstein> folks were less thatn happy about the RT kernels
[04:31] <holstein> i thought hardy was stable though
[04:31] <holstein> and awesome
[04:31] <holstein> i have to admit though
[04:31] <holstein> when the RT kernel didnot ship with ubuntu studio
[04:31] <acerimmer__> holstein: assume you're in the production biz.  what's the difference between indamixx  and 64 studio
[04:31] <holstein> i was much more newb than i am now
[04:31] <holstein> and i tried to get the RT kernel working
[04:31] <holstein> failed
[04:32] <holstein> got frustrated and started using 64
[04:32] <holstein> also, my firewire device just worked in 64
[04:32] <holstein> which i figured out was a firewire stack update
[04:33] <holstein> acerimmer__: AFAIK not much
[04:33] <holstein> from what i read, there are some proprietary goodies in indamixx
[04:33] <holstein> not sure though
[04:33] <holstein> i can only speak for 64
[04:39] <acerimmer__> wait, so indamixx is for SALE?
[04:40]  * holstein looking
[04:40] <holstein> i know the units are
[04:40] <holstein> the netbook and...
[04:40] <acerimmer__> the OS seems to be as well.  $99?!
[04:40] <holstein> yeah http://www.indamixx.com/indamixx-shop.html
[04:41] <acerimmer__> well, whatever floats your boat.  Still less that OSX I suppose
[04:41] <holstein> i would assume its been tailored to run better on netbooks
[04:41] <holstein> acerimmer__: acutually
[04:41] <holstein> i got snow leapard for 30 bucks us
[04:41] <acerimmer__> ?!!!
[04:41] <holstein> new
[04:41] <holstein> at the store
[04:41] <holstein> thats the pirce
[04:42] <holstein> price*
[04:42] <holstein> BUT
[04:42] <holstein> yeah
[04:42] <acerimmer__> yeah that's teh OS.  I meant the apps, garage band, etc
[04:42] <holstein> to get OSX and protools or whatever
[04:42] <holstein> still cheaper
[04:43] <acerimmer__> Don't know about rendering/editing on a netbook. Seems kind of underpowered?
[04:43] <acerimmer__> especially compared to a mac tower
[04:45] <holstein> its linux though
[04:45] <holstein> i suppose it could be done
[04:45] <holstein> i got ubuntu studio on a netbook
[04:45] <holstein> an HP mini
[04:45] <holstein> and i would not push it hard at all
[04:45] <holstein> i track with it
[04:45] <holstein> and thats it
[04:46] <acerimmer__> right tool for the job then.  Anyways, gotta bounce.  I'm about to lose my wifi.  cya around
[11:37] <remaxim> hi
[11:38] <remaxim> is there any good sampling/cutting application for linux? = cutting a sample in pieces and play it afterwards, like on a mpc?
[11:38] <remaxim> *play it afterwards by triggering midi keys ...
[11:39] <remaxim> well, one application or several ones as long as they do the trick together ...
[17:15] <makerprofaze> .
[20:10] <remaxim> hi
[21:19] <makerprofaze> .
[22:19] <xuco> hi all! any spanish developer here?
[22:19] <xuco> or spanish user?
[22:25] <holstein> xuco: there is
[22:25] <holstein> a speaker
[22:25] <holstein> just out right now
[23:03] <holstein> rlameiro: hey
[23:10] <acerimmer> holstein: get to work
[23:11] <rlameiro> yo holstein :D
[23:12] <holstein> acerimmer: hehe
[23:13]  * holstein checking out an awesome specimen tutorial
[23:13] <holstein> http://blag.linuxgamers.net/2010/03/linux-synth-tutorial-part-6/#more-469


[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[19:37] <linagee> how can I get the ubuntu package 'intel-microcode' updated? (one was just released two weeks ago)
[19:39] <linagee> can debian's package just be stolen and used in Ubuntu? https://packages.debian.org/sid/intel-microcode
[19:40] <linagee> oh wait, disregard all of the above. its already in utopic.
[20:17] <Unit193> Logan_: Speaking of which, still no word back or uploads of the package.
[20:18] <Logan_> oh, Debian maintainers have their moments :P
[20:19] <Unit193> It's funny, the ones I've found have (mostly) been pretty great though.
[20:22] <Unit193> Logan_: I presume you want to wait for a Debian upload before doing the merge?
[20:22] <Logan_> I don't like doing new upstreams in Ubuntu when we're syncing from Debian
[20:34] <Unit193> Alrighty-o.