[00:00] <Wicked> hello all. ive installed sun's java and changed the default java to use the sun version. ive also installed the sun java plugin....but firefox is still using the icetea version of java. how do i make firefox use the sun java plugin?
[00:00] <salvinod> can some one tell me the command to stop the x server please
[00:00] <DasEi> ghindo:sudo fdisk -l
[00:00] <leOn> piet: i did notice that sometimes the machine refuses to shitdown cleanly by itself, but getting unresponsive, i've only experienced it today
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> salvinod gdm stop ?
[00:00] <ldiamond> How do I load RAID drivers and mount the raid drives at boot? (I dont have to boot Ubuntu from the raid drive, just mount them automatically when I power up the machine)
[00:00]  * leOn laffs
[00:00] <Wicked> !java
[00:00] <DasEi> ghindo:identifier and filesystem-type ?
[00:01] <leOn> s/shitdown/shutdown/
[00:01] <leOn> =D
[00:01] <RUbuntuNooB> Good things come at a price, I guess. Still, no way i am going back to XP. Thanks for pointers, guys
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> salvinod hit clt-alt-f2, login. run  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. do your nivida stuff, using sudo. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start to restart X . ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui, if needed
[00:01] <Piet> leOn: not shutting down cleanly is probably another issue which is related to iwlagn.
[00:01] <leOn> i love those typos
[00:01] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: that's not  quite true
[00:01] <Piet> leOn: i thought so :)
[00:01] <ghindo> DasEi: Okay, I see.  I think I might be able to get it from here, thank you!
[00:01] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: a lot of good programs are  free as in price, but also freedom
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[00:01] <witcher> i think i lost my helper lol
[00:01] <jtaji> RUbuntuNooB: you could always boot the livecd to test the video issue
[00:02] <RUbuntuNooB> i didnt mean price like money, heh.
[00:02] <Sagaci> Wicked: just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:02] <RUbuntuNooB> I meant like you have to work for it
[00:02] <leOn> Piet: i must say that i got really impressed by all the user friendlyness on ubuntu ... but all these hickups are making me think twice about it
[00:02] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: for some stuff yeah
[00:02] <RUbuntuNooB> never paid for windows anyway))
[00:02] <leOn> Piet: i'm a long time debian user
[00:02] <Wicked> Sagaci, i have it installed. but firefox is still using icedtea
[00:02] <DasEi> ghindo: it is an ext fsystem, nor ?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: naughtey
[00:02] <kebomix> hello ., how to make gnome default instead of kde ?
[00:02] <witcher> opps sorry
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !piracy |  RUbuntuNooB
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> leOn Most hiccups can be avoided by purchasing known supported hardware
[00:03] <RUbuntuNooB> Oh, sorry. I live in russia
[00:03] <ghindo> DasEi: Yes, it's for an ext3 filesystem.  So should I just "fsck -V /dev/sdb1"?
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> kebomix do you have both installed now?
[00:03] <linxeh> I never paid for windows. it doesnt mean I obtained it illegally
[00:03] <DasEi> ghindo: first type : mount
[00:03] <RUbuntuNooB> No one fights software piracy here
[00:03] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: ok well  your meant to follow Ubuntu's rules, whatever countrey your in, when using this channel
[00:03] <kebomix> Jack_Sparrow: yeah :( ,
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RUbuntuNooB Yes we do
[00:03] <DasEi> ghindo: make sure fs isn't mounted
[00:03] <Sagaci> linxeh: so you got it oem?
[00:03] <Piet> leOn: please install the linux-backports-modules-* package, unless you already have.
[00:03] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, to ease suspend working, you may choose to significantly enlarge the swap partition
[00:03] <kebomix> Jack_Sparrow:  i just was trying kde
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> kebomix under option where you login
[00:04] <ghindo> DasEi: Nope, not mounted.
[00:04] <RUbuntuNooB> Alright
[00:04] <DasEi> ghindo: sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb1
[00:04] <linxeh> Sagaci: no, I got given it
[00:04] <sebsebseb> linxeh: yeah  true Microsoft give out  stuff for free as in price, to lock students in,   anyway
[00:04] <sebsebseb> !ot
[00:04] <Piet> leOn: this should fix some issues you're having with the iwlagn wireless driver
[00:04] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, like 4x the RAM at least
[00:04] <kebomix> Jack_Sparrow:  yeah , i know , but kde is default , not gnome
[00:04] <leOn> Jack_Sparrow: you mean hardware that the manufacturer says "ubuntu is supported"  .. or just hardware that is known to work?
[00:04] <DasEi> ghindo: sudo e2fsck -p      /dev/sdb1  ,sry
[00:04] <epiro> diskin - thanks, man...yes its an old webcam
[00:04] <Guest50329> how come i cant hear my mp3s in banshee?
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kebomix Same menu you can set the default
[00:04] <epiro> diskin . yes, i'm fallowing the instructions...
[00:04] <RUbuntuNooB> leagris:  wow, i thought 1.5 ram would be enough
[00:04] <epiro> diskin . :D
[00:04] <Piet> leOn: it could possibly also be the reason for the cpu issue. but maybe not. for sure it will be easier to tell once the one issue is gone.
[00:05] <RUbuntuNooB> i will give it a try
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> leOn Just hardware that is known to work
[00:05] <Sagaci> can't you just disable icetea via firefox?
[00:05] <ghindo> DasEi: Got it, thank you for your help :D
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: you need mp3  codec installed.  in fact do this    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  that should take care of that :)
[00:05] <sebsebseb> and other things
[00:05] <Laurenceb> hi
[00:05] <mzz> leagris: why would you want more swap than you have ram for suspend?
[00:05] <Guest50329> is it a good codec? i dont want ym music to sound like crap
[00:05] <leOn> Jack_Sparrow: i had a laptop like that last week .. but guess what .. it was OLD! =)
[00:05] <Sagaci> !hi | Laurenceb
[00:05] <Laurenceb> I'm trying to run an xp application under wine
[00:05] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, suspend to disk swap all RAM to the swap partition + some state metadata
[00:05] <Sagaci> what app?
[00:05] <Ttech[netbook]> Whats with the landscape advertising in Ubuntu 9.04? How do I shut it off
[00:05] <Laurenceb> err:comm:set_line_control ByteSize fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 1b000c (device=1b access=0 func=3 method=0)
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Laurenceb /join #winehq
[00:05] <ror> Laurenceb, winehq is a good resource
[00:05] <Sagaci> !wine | Laurenceb
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: well MP3 is not exactly a good format, but that's to off topic to get into here
[00:06] <Laurenceb> k
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > Laurenceb
[00:06] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, to that you have to add already used swap during runtime
[00:06] <mzz> leagris: I'm successfully suspending with a swap partition that's considerably smaller than my ram, although in hindsight I should've made it a bit larger.
[00:06] <Piet> leOn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/200509 in case you want to read up on this
[00:06] <leOn> and that talk about having last years hardware in order to run linux properly is really not much in favour of linux
[00:06] <RUbuntuNooB> leagris: ok, i ll try that
[00:06] <RUbuntuNooB> thanks, bye
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> leOn Please stop
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: if  you care so much about sound quality, I highly recommend Flac
[00:06] <mzz> RUbuntuNooB: imho swap a bit larger than ram will work for the majority of cases (unless you're heavily swapping when you attempt to suspend, which shouldn't be common)
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: sent to wrong person
[00:07] <vsemenov> anyone ever managed to compile freedce on ubuntu?
[00:07] <leagris> mzz, sure, you may suspend to ram without swap at all or you may suspend to disk with little swap unless you inteed use very little ram
[00:07] <Edwardxp> What's Up!
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: if you care so much about sound quality I highly recommend Flac,   yes  the files are bigger, but they sound very good,  and it's also an open format
[00:07] <leOn> Piet: thanks piet .. i decided to come here cause almost every post i saw was made by ubuntu users .. i'll try the backport modules as you sugested and i think i'll keep the vbox modules out of the equation for now too
[00:07] <mzz> leagris: do you regularly use significant amounts of swap? Because imho that's not common, unless the machine is annoyingly low on ram
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: and Ubuntu has built in support for  OGG and Flac, just like  other Desktop Linux distros do
[00:08] <leagris> mzz, I often use wap beside I have 2Gb ram
[00:09] <mzz> leagris: yes, but more than a few MiB of swap?
[00:09] <leagris> mzz, running a laptop
[00:09] <Edwardxp> does anyone know a better ssh irc program ?
[00:09] <Edwardxp> besides irris?
[00:09] <leagris> mzz, sometimes more than 50% of my 4Gb swap
[00:09] <ror> ogg's dead though, in terms of portable players; and FLAC is too big for portables really :(
[00:10] <mzz> leagris: and performance is still acceptable? Odd, what kind of apps are you running that trigger that?
[00:10] <leagris> mzz, running WoW with wine
[00:10] <leagris> mzz, performance drop madly
[00:10] <mzz> WoW eats gigabytes of memory? I didn't know that
[00:10] <mzz> leagris: still, that won't hurt suspend unless you attempt to do it while WoW is running :)
[00:10] <Edwardxp> virtual memory at 8GB would be perfred for WoW
[00:10] <sebsebseb> ror: portable players, some have support
[00:10] <Edwardxp> that's what i think anyway..
[00:11]  * joeDeuce almost smashed his box with a hammer... removing jockey fixed it though :)
[00:11] <ror> very few have ogg support though, especially not out the box
[00:11] <Piet> leOn: if you're not currently using virtualbox, it sure doesn't hurt to remove the modules.
[00:11] <sebsebseb> ror: yeah well, because they are for profit companies, that like their propritary vender lock in formats
[00:11] <ror> but this is all rather OT
[00:11] <sebsebseb> ror: yep
[00:11] <leOn> Piet: yep, i'll blacklist them and insert them before firing it up, if i need it
[00:12] <Piet> leOn: i would also suggest that you boot up from a live cd and run a fsck.ext -f on all file systems belonging to your linux installation
[00:12] <Piet> leOn: that's since it can also be a FS issue.
[00:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know if its possible to add a swap partition after install and still have hibernate work?
[00:13] <Lyth> Can I have a list of Ubuntu-compatible MMOs besides EVE?
[00:13] <leagris> Edwardxp, I have significant slowdowns on WOL new areas and the crawded Dalaran city. The laptop gfx card, slow disk swap don't help
[00:13] <Piet> leOn: if I get this correctly then the kernel is having an issue reading acquiring a lock state, which is often stored in a lock file.
[00:13] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: yeah sure
[00:13] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: you can add swap
[00:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> How would that be done?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: partition editor on   Ubuntu Live CD
[00:14] <Sagaci> is there such a program like APTonCD except it's APTonUSB
[00:14] <kebomix> hello , the power button on top task bar disappeared after installing KDE ? !!! ,
[00:14] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: if you need to resize another partition first,  otherwise   sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:14] <ralmar> Hey guys. Does anyone know an easy solution for throttling the download and upload bandwidth of a NIC? I used to use "wondershaper", but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore. I can use the commands, but they have no actual effect. Thanks
[00:14] <usser> CoJaBo-Aztec, create a swap partition, with gparted, resize your existing one if you dont have enough space, then just do sudo swapon, you dont even have to restart
[00:14] <Piet> leOn: finally, if it still occurs, install memtest86+ and run it overnight.
[00:14] <leOn> Piet: i chose ext3 specially because i wanted it to be trust worthy
[00:14] <nisperuza> hhoe can I instal the ubuntulooks in my ubuntu 9.04
[00:14] <DasEi>  kebomix: right-click.. add...
[00:14] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: you'll want to add it to /etc/fstab though so it's used at every boot
[00:14] <coolkourt> how do i get rid of this free JRE 1.5 and get SUNS JRE to work with eclipse
[00:15] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: actually I guess swapon won't work if it's not in fstab anyway
[00:15] <Piet> leOn: good choice then
[00:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> This system was created with only primary partitions, so no room for swap but I intend to fix that later on.
[00:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there anything special I need to do to re-enable hibernate then?
[00:15] <leOn> hmm .. linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic provides updated version for the iwlagn firmware
[00:16] <carpii> has the jaunty kernel bug been fixed yet, where it wont let you disable ipv6 ?
[00:16] <leOn> and also the 802.11 stack
[00:16] <Piet> leOn: luckily, yes
[00:16] <jtaji> leOn: you probably want to install linux-backports-modules-jaunty though, so it stays up to date
[00:17] <leOn> jtaji: better go for the meta package .. understood
[00:17] <unxuxu> Hi... How could I get my cpu fans working good on my laptop with battery manager? To get my fans working I need to set acpi=off for kernel initialization... but this command unable my battery admin...    Debian works great with this things, but Ubuntu is so better for my linux skills... I love it and I need it... LOL... thanks for any advice
[00:17] <jtaji> leOn: yeah it has solved problems on my thinkpad since intrepid
[00:18] <leOn> jtaji: on a thinkpad too
[00:18] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jtaji: Do you know what would need to be done to fix hibernate then?
[00:18] <leOn> t500
[00:18] <jtaji> t61
[00:18] <leOn> i had an r52 until last week =)
[00:19] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: I don't think you have to do anything... not positive
[00:19] <nisperuza> I NEDD THE UBUNTULOOKS TO UBUNTU 9.04
[00:19] <Sagaci> in synaptic, is there any way to help fill the screenshots of the packages, or is all that done by the developers
[00:19] <sebsebseb> !caps | nisperuza
[00:19] <nisperuza> WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD
[00:20] <Kaie`> haha
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Sagaci: I think it's done by developers
[00:20] <Kaie`> i am actually unable to read lowercase
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Sagaci: Synaptic is pretty good yeah, but sudo apt-get install program :)
[00:20] <Declination> i have a dilemma with my microphone input. I have on of the Dells (m1330) that can pre-installed with Ubuntu. It comes with a mounted microphone array. For some reason, audio captured from the array is extraordinarily quite to the point that when I initially tested it, I thought it wasn't working even though every alsa/pulse slider I can find is all the way up. Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[00:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jtaji: I have done this on one other computer, and it appears that it looks for the swap by its GUID independantly of the /etc/fstab settings. I cannot find where this is set, and don't want to create another system that cant hibernate..
[00:20] <mzz> I'd tell Kaie` that must be really annoying, but he wouldn't be able to read it.
[00:20] <Lyth> Anyone know of any linux mmos
[00:20] <d-admin> I'm trying to do a dist upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, but my system is not behaving as it says it would on the website
[00:20] <Kaie`> =]
[00:21] <Sagaci> sebsebseb: i know it seems quite minor but I think that would help new ubuntu linux users adapt quicker, just by having small screenshots
[00:21] <coz_> d-admin,  what is it doing?
[00:21] <kebomix> how to remove kde 4.2 complete remove ? :@
[00:21] <sebsebseb> d-admin: you can't just upgrade  8.04 to 9.04  you would have to go through 8.10 first
[00:21] <d-admin> it I know that
[00:21] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: dunno, I've never been in your situation
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  kebomix
[00:21] <Guest50329> well, when i had xp installed my music sounded much better for some reason, now i have ubuntu, and my music doesnt sound good, low bass, and so on
[00:21] <mzz> Lyth: iirc "eternal lands" is one
[00:21] <d-admin> but it kees saying that my system is uptodate, it wont even let me upgrade to 8.10
[00:21] <coz_> kebomix,   maybe sudo apt-get autoremove kde-desktop  ??
[00:21] <Lyth> thanks, anyone
[00:22] <DasEi> Guest50329: alsamixergui installed ?
[00:22] <Guest50329> whats that?
[00:22] <coz_> d-admin,  how are you upgrading   update-manager -d
[00:22] <Sagaci> run "update-manager -d"
[00:22] <sebsebseb> d-admin: you have to  change something so it will let you upgrade to 8.10
[00:22] <sebsebseb> d-admin: you have to tell it that you wan't non LTS releases as well
[00:22] <kebomix> the power button that connected with pidgin status disappeared ? any solution
[00:22] <d-admin> ok, what do I do that?
[00:22] <DasEi> Guest50329: a util to regulate volumeand even more showing correct soundcard(--driver)
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  d-admin
[00:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know how (K)Ubuntu determines which swap partition to resume from hibernate so I can fix it?
[00:23] <Guest50329> so once i install that will it find my correct sound card and all?
[00:23] <sevodnya> d-admin: System > Software Sources > Updates > Release Upgrade -- this will need to be set to "Normal releases"
[00:23] <DasEi> Guest50329: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[00:23] <Sagaci> system > administration > software sources > updates tab > check for updates "normal releases"
[00:23] <Lyth> Does anyone know of any high quality MMOs for linux?
[00:23] <d-admin> thanks!
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Lyth: games?
[00:23] <DasEi> Guest50329: alsamixergui
[00:23] <Lyth> yes
[00:23] <d-admin> I think I fugured it out, I forgot about the LTS thing...
[00:23] <Trunkz> Lyth: Ragnarok Online
[00:23] <d-admin> thanks!
[00:23] <sevodnya> cojabo: I've run into this before, I recall having to edit /etc/fstab, let me see if I can dig up the directions for you.
[00:24] <DasEi> Guest50329: upper right corner > s-card listed correctly?
[00:24] <Sagaci> sebsebseb: i usually use cli to install packages now anyhow, but sometimes I prefer synaptic to just browse
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Lyth: 42 of the best  free linux games       42  of the best  commercial linux  games      search for that in google and you will get onto stuff
[00:24] <Guest50329> yeah i got sigmatel
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Lyth: also you could like search the history for a site such as linuxtoday.com and  find out what games articles they had
[00:25] <VCoolio> Hi, if I change blacklist.conf, does that take immediate effect or what command should I use?
[00:25] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: I edited /etc/fstab, and swap works but hibernate fails to resume (still looks for the old GUID). If you can find instructions to fix that, I'd greatly apreciate it.
[00:25] <unxuxu> Anything about good acpi admin... ? I cant use cpu fans with ubuntu... acpi=off just put it turned on all the time... and my battery has no administration
[00:25] <s34n> I'm tried to start iptables automatically by placing a shell script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Lyth: loads of good  Linux games out there as well,  you just need to know about them.    synaptic  has a few in there as well
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Sagaci: yep that's like me
[00:25] <kebomix> guys , wut is the name of the button on the top right corner that manager power ( restart - log out - shutdown ) and connected with pidgin status ?
[00:26] <s34n> but it doesn't execute the iptables script
[00:26] <Guest50329> wgar does this alsa mixer do
[00:26] <Guest50329> what*
[00:26] <s34n> what am I missing?
[00:26] <ralmar> Hey guys. Does anyone know an easy solution for throttling the download and upload bandwidth of a NIC? I used to use "wondershaper", but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore. I can use the commands, but they have no actual effect. Thanks
[00:27] <Azodon> welcome Bryan_01
[00:27] <s34n> ralmar: diffserv?
[00:28] <Sagaci> kebomix: notification area, user switcher, shut down
[00:28] <Bryan_01> tks Azodon
[00:28] <sevodnya> cojabo: Try "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[00:28] <Azodon> no problem
[00:28] <Piet> leOn: you may want to subscribe to this if you haven't already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/376363
[00:28] <Renfield> I have a quick question. I'm trying to compile a program from source. It says it needs libcurl. I see that there are a number of packages with the name curl in them. Which one do I need?
[00:29] <Renfield> I tried just 'curl', and that wasn't enough.
[00:29] <ldiamond> How do I load RAID drivers and mount the raid drives at boot? (I dont have to boot Ubuntu from the raid drive, just mount them automatically when I power up the machine)
[00:29] <kirlyin> how do i add the "task bar" to a panel?
[00:29] <s34n> Renfield: aptitude search libcurl
[00:30] <s34n> Renfield: hopefully, there will be a package actually called libcurl
[00:30] <th0r> Renfield, you probably need the libcurl-dev package. Often when compiling you need the -dev for associated libs
[00:30] <VCoolio> kirlyin: right click panel, add to panel, search for window list
[00:30] <DasEi> ralmar: there might be better solutions, one is ethtool :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/172663/
[00:31] <Renfield> s34n: Yea! Why does that command show libcurl-dev, but apt-cache search libcurl doesn't?
[00:31] <kirlyin> oh there it is..thanks
[00:31] <mzz> Renfield: oddly enough there's no libcurl4-dev, and I'm not sure if you want libcurl4-openssl-dev or libcurl4-gnutls-dev, but I'm pretty sure you want one of them.
[00:31] <Renfield> I've been using apt-cache search, I thought that was the way to go.
[00:32] <th0r> Renfield, installing -devs that you don't need won't hurt anything, it will just take up a little disk space
[00:32] <Strife89> I have a quick question: I installed Ubuntu using Wubi; Ubuntu resides on a virtual disk on my physical hard drive. Inside Ubuntu, looking at System Monitor, it list my physical hard drive as "/host". Can I safely mount and use it?
[00:32] <Renfield> mzz: aptitude search libcurl shows me a libcurl4-dev. You think I should go with that instead of libcurl-dev?
[00:32] <s34n> what is the best practive for loading an iptables ruleset at startup?
[00:32] <panzor> hello, I"m running 8.04 and am having trouble getting recent nvidia drivers to work
[00:33] <mzz> Renfield: I wouldn't be at all surprised if both libcurl-dev and libcurl4-dev are just aliases for one of the two packages I mentioned.
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Strife89: no
[00:33] <mzz> Renfield: (I'm not in ubuntu currently, can't check)
[00:33] <panzor> s34n: I use /etc/rc.local
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Strife89: don't think so,  and Wubi is only good for trying Ubuntu,   woudn't normalley recommend it though for various reasons.   real partitions :)
[00:33] <kryle> whats the name of the ubuntu browser? natilius ?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> kryle: nautilus
[00:33] <mzz> sebsebseb: isn't it already mounted (on /host)?
[00:33] <kryle> thank you !
[00:33] <s34n> panzor: it seems like the /etc/network stuff was made for this purpose
[00:34] <mzz> err, wrong nick
[00:34] <mzz> Strife89: ^^^
[00:34] <s34n> panzor: but perhaps I'm misunderstanding
[00:34] <Renfield> mzz: When I try to install libcurl-dev it says I need to select the openssl or gnutls version.
[00:34] <Strife89> sebsebseb: Meh, I've been reluctant to repartition my new notebook's drive, but if that's the case, then.... :)
[00:34] <mzz> Renfield: heh.
[00:34] <mzz> Renfield: can't help you there, I don't know offhand which would preferable.
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Strife89: it's not hard to  do real partitions :)
[00:34] <panzor> s34n: I just add the lines that add rules to my rc.local and I don't think anything more of it. It works for me.
[00:35] <Strife89> sebsebseb: I know, but one partitioning job on an old desktop went rather badly, and I've been scared of partitioning since.
[00:35] <Renfield> mzz: I'm asking on the channel for the application I'm compiling.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Strife89: yep most of us  experienced Ubuntu users, woudn't  normalley recommend wubi for  various reasons
[00:35] <Strife89> sebsebseb: On the other hand, that incident was three years ago.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Strife89: what happended?  and I don't mind helping with partitining
[00:35] <bc_rich> do you know when brtfs will be available for ubuntu
[00:36] <sebsebseb> bc_rich: not any time soon
[00:36] <Strife89> sebsebseb: Actually, I think I later turned up some bad RAM on that system anyway.
[00:36] <mzz> bc_rich: don't hold your breath (the disk format wasn't even stable yet last time I checked)
[00:36] <panzor> Does anyone know how to manually update nVidia drivers enough to troubleshoot why mine won't work?
[00:36] <Strife89> sebsebseb: I know that my laptop has a recovery partition, though, and I'm nervous about blowing it.
[00:36] <mzz> sebsebseb: apart from the installer is it really that bad?
[00:37] <bc_rich> so what is the best failsystem out there I can use with ubuntu
[00:37] <sebsebseb> panzor: I'll  try to help a little.   First of all  old or new graphics card? and which version of Ubuntu?
[00:37] <mzz> Strife89: from what I've seen the ubuntu partitioner is pretty safe as long as you pay attention to what you're doing.
[00:37] <sevodnya> strife89: The latest installers make it very easy to leave recovery partitions and whatnot intact; my laptop has one still in place.
[00:37] <mzz> Strife89: (you don't have to be an expert to use it, iirc it gives a nice overview of what it's going to do before doing anything irreversible)
[00:37] <Strife89> mzz: Yeah, I've used it before. Way back with 7.04. :)
[00:38] <panzor> ubuntu 8.04, Quadro FX 570M (notebook version) currently running 169.12. This driver is over a year old and I want to upgrade due to the GPU getting way too hot.
[00:38] <sebsebseb> mzz: let's see it  puts itself inside Windows!   Does that answer the question?  :) :d   heh more seriously  if   windows is fragmented Ubuntu can get slow.   Wubi partitions can get currupted.   The bootloader  can  completly mess up.   Something really bad happens to  Windows, well bye bye Ubuntu as well.
[00:38] <Strife89> mzz: And that was on a machine that had a fudged-up partition table beforehand.
[00:38] <Bryan_01> do anybody know any Ubuntu Italian Channel ?
[00:38] <mzz> Strife89: the only thing I found not entirely trivial (using the 9.04 alt installer) was getting it to install no bootloader (I already have one)
[00:38] <Pici> !it | Bryan_01
[00:38] <panzor> sebsebseb: ubuntu 8.04, Quadro FX 570M (notebook version) currently running 169.12. This driver is over a year old and I want to upgrade due to the GPU getting way too hot.
[00:39] <jeniffer> hello boys. I would like to know what is the driver ubuntu uses for touchscreens....why is it autocalibrated? how Ubuntu can autocalibrate it?
[00:39] <mzz> sebsebseb: that's true, you're depending on windows leaving the file alone. I don't know all that much about wubi's boot loader setup.
[00:39] <sevodnya> Strife89: what bootloader did you have installed before?
[00:39] <Bryan_01> Grazie ubottu !!!
[00:39] <jeniffer> !evtouch
[00:39] <jeniffer> !touch
[00:39] <jeniffer> !screen
[00:39] <Strife89> sevodnya: What, on my old desktop or my laptop?
[00:39] <jeniffer> !calibration
[00:39] <kansan__> how do i make hardy see all 4GB of my ram (32bit version of ubuntu).... as opposed to the 3GB it currently sees
[00:39] <mzz> jeniffer: don't get too bot-happy, or open a private chat window with the bot
[00:40] <mzz> kansan__: that might not be possible without upgrading to a 64-bit kernel
[00:40] <sevodnya> Stife89: Sorry, wrong nick there.
[00:40] <panzor> kansan__: ubuntu uses the extra gig for the kernel, so it's not being wasted you just don't see it listed and you can't use it for regular things
[00:40] <sebsebseb> mzz: it  puts the  Windows bootloader on and edits it, so   Grub  can boot up Ubuntu,  but I been here when people coudn't  boot up either Windows or Wubi/Ubuntu
[00:40] <Strife89> sevodnya: Ah. :)
[00:40] <kansan__> mzz, should i run the 64 bit version of ubuntu instead or something?
[00:40] <jeniffer> mzz sorry for the inconveniences...how can i open a private window?
[00:40] <mzz> kansan__: I think I would with that amount of ram, but I haven't researched this, so don't just take my word for it.
[00:40] <kansan__> panzor, are you sure?
[00:40] <Strife89> Alright, I'll give it a go.
[00:41] <mzz> jeniffer: depends on your irc client. Try "/msg ubottu !evdev"
[00:41] <jeniffer> "/msg ubottu !evdev
[00:41] <mzz> jeniffer: sorry, without the quotes
[00:41] <panzor> kansan__: well, that's what I've heard and it's kept me from messing with PAE to get it to work. Google search PAE if you're not convinced.
[00:41] <kansan__> panzor, pae?
[00:41] <kansan__> i guess i should just google search ;p
[00:41] <sebsebseb> panzor: old graphics card?   Which type of?
[00:42] <panzor> sebsebseb: ubuntu 8.04, Quadro FX 570M (notebook version) currently running 169.12. This driver is over a year old and I want to upgrade due to the GPU getting way too hot.
[00:42] <jeniffer> mzz perhaps you know something about touchscreen drivers used bu ubuntu.....
[00:42] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: try pressing the name  of the person  you want to talk to
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !pm
[00:42] <coventry> The command "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" is failing with the message "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)".  It appears from http://tinyurl.com/pdnfem that this is a long-standing problem.  I tried the suggestion on that page to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a".  This did turn up a package problem, but fixing it so the dpkg command ran without errors did not correct the tasksel problem.  Any suggestions as to how to proceed?
[00:42] <ror> 32bit operating systems can surely only use 3Gigs of ram, hence 32 bits of addressing space??
[00:42] <jeniffer> panzor....related to slitaz?
[00:42] <ror> someone please correct me if I'm wrong
[00:42] <mzz> jeniffer: I really don't, sorry
[00:42] <jeniffer> sebsebseb thanks
[00:42] <panzor> jeniffer: Um...no?
[00:43] <super_hoops> i'm getting this error when i boot my pc "grub loading stage 1.5. grub loading please wait error 17"
[00:43] <CyPiNinja> There was this tool in gnome, When I plugged in a camera once it got automatically detected and could get my pictures off, But I'm on debian now, And I'm trying to get my pictures off.... So what was/is the name of the tool?
[00:43] <mzz> ror: 4, not 3, but it's complicated a bit by how physical ram gets mapped to virtual memory.
[00:43] <mzz> super_hoops: "error 17" is mapped to an actual error message in the grub manual.
[00:43] <sebsebseb> panzor: ok try this
[00:43] <DasEi> ror: up to four (without mod), but all ram are counting, like graphics and so on
[00:43] <sebsebseb> panzor: system > administaration > hardware drivers
[00:44] <mzz> super_hoops: looked it up for you: "Cannot mount selected partition", "returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB."
[00:44] <usser_> CyberSix, digiKam on kde or fspot on gnome probably
[00:44] <ror> ok
[00:44] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: no problem
[00:44] <mzz> super_hoops: iirc that usually means the boot partition changed, and reinstalling grub is usually the quickest fix
[00:44] <javyn> heya
[00:44] <mzz> !grub | super_hoops
[00:45]  * ror hugs his 512MB of ram
[00:45] <panzor> sebsebseb: okay, then what
[00:45] <mzz> super_hoops: (the "boot partition" being the one grub itself is on, which may or may not be the same as your root partition)
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !ot | ror
[00:45] <javyn> i have a rather strange question.... will ubuntu running xubuntu-desktop run just as fast as just having xubuntu?  I ask b/c my laptop is running Ubuntu but is a bit slow due to graphic card limitations, and I'd like to see if Xubuntu-desktop will speed it up
[00:45] <sebsebseb> ror: heh :)
[00:45]  * CoJaBo-Aztec wonders if its a good idea to sacrifice the Dell utility partition in order to create a swap partition...
[00:45] <sevodnya> CyPiNinja: could also be gtkam
[00:45] <sebsebseb> panzor: anything availalbe?
[00:45] <sevodnya> cojabo: how big is your hard drive?
[00:45] <super_hoops> yeah the ubuntu partition was on the same hard drive as my XP install.  how do i go about re-installing grub?
[00:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: 80GB
[00:45] <mzz> javyn: I think so (as long as you switch your session to it, obviously), but get a second opinion
[00:45] <amit> ok
[00:45] <panzor> sebsebseb: Yeah, it's the driver I'm currently using, the old one
[00:46] <mzz> super_hoops: see the "RestoreGrub" thing ubottu gave you
[00:46] <sebsebseb> panzor: maybe there isn't a later driver available
[00:46] <sebsebseb> panzor: also trying to install one yourself, can really go bad
[00:46] <mzz> super_hoops: iirc those instructions work for more than just windows overwriting it.
[00:46] <super_hoops> just spotted it :D cheers.
[00:46] <ldiamond> How do I load RAID drivers and mount the raid drives at boot? (I dont have to boot Ubuntu from the raid drive, just mount them automatically when I power up the machine)
[00:46] <panzor> sebsebseb: I know, it's not working
[00:46] <Guest54330> i installed alsamixer, but it says my card is pulse audio, which is not true, i think this is why my sound mp3s sound like crap right now, what can i do?
[00:46] <sebsebseb> panzor: what's the problem with the current?
[00:46] <sevodnya> cojabo: I mean, I've left 5GB for my swap, and I've never had a problem; how much room do you have to play around with between ubuntu and swap?
[00:47] <panzor> sebsebseb: It's over a year old and the GPU is getting to 80C
[00:47] <mzz> Guest54330: this is a feature I do not know how to work around without killing pulse completely, which may not be desirable.
[00:47] <sebsebseb> panzor: ok well that is probably a sign  to tell you that your hardware is failing
[00:47] <super_hoops> ok i'll go through that recovering ubuntu thing now and let you know how i get on. cheers guys :D
[00:47] <ralmar> dasei i dont think ethtool is what im looking for... its to set the speed of your ethernet like 100mbs 50 mbs.. full duplex, etc
[00:47] <panzor> sebsebseb: I dunno, it doesn't do this on windows that has the updated driver. That's why I want to update this one
[00:47] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: I have a total of 10GB free, but only one primary partition entry left. The utility partition takes only 70MB, but uses up a partition table entry.
[00:48] <Kelwing> sevodnya: isn't 5GB a bit of overkill?
[00:48] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: The problem is, I;m not certain what the utility partition does...
[00:48] <javyn> mzz:  thanks.  i'm not sure.  up until recently i've been a windows user, and i'd never ever have considered installing another desktop or window manager.  it would at best make my computer slow as hell, at worst crater the OS.  I'm not sure if Linux is the same way
[00:48] <sevodnya> guest54330: pulseaudio can occasionally cause problems, but I've never known it to cause sound degredation.
[00:49] <mzz> javyn: it's entirely possible to have three of them installed without them getting seriously in each others way. I don't know if the ubuntu install enables any system services that xubuntu doesn't, but those aren't too hard to disable if you find someone to give you a list.
[00:49] <sevodnya> kelwing: probably, but I've got a 200GB drive, and I'm barely using 35 for anything--I was just wondering why not having enough space for both swap and utility would be an issue on an 80 gig.
[00:49] <GillaGal> how do I set the region on a new DVD drive?  I've tried regionset and it didn't work.
[00:49] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Kelwing: I think for hibernete needs swap to be at least as much as RAM.    I am not that sure what to do anyway,  but tried stuff like this before,  no  fun at all.     Anyway  stick around and someone else will probably help.
[00:49] <mzz> Guest54330: other possibilities include: wrong sound driver used (not that likely), you using a media player with a configured equalizer before
[00:50] <javyn> i put xubuntu and kubuntu desktops on my desktop computer.  xubuntu rocks but kubuntu is crap imo.  i think xubuntu would be great on my laptop.  xfce is nice
[00:50] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: it'll suspend with less swap than ram as long as not all ram is used for anything but disk cache.
[00:50] <javyn> no offense to kde fans, but you know, each his own
[00:50] <Guest54330> whats a good equalizer/
[00:50] <Guest54330> ?
[00:50] <panzor> sebsebseb: Oh, I have no problem installing. The darn thing just won't work! haha. I'm thinking about compiling my kernel with it somehow...I dunno.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> panzor: yeah .bins are a pain to install
[00:50] <leagris> Each time I hibernate or suspend, I have to reload the sound drivers to regain sound at wake up
[00:51] <sebsebseb> panzor: you got to make them executable and stuff
[00:51] <panzor> sebsebseb: Not really, just sh <file>.bin
[00:51] <CoJaBo-Aztec> mzz: What will happen if theres not enough?
[00:51] <leagris> Is there a workaround for that?
[00:51] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: I've had it fail somewhat messily (attempt to suspend, then give up halfway through and restart, thrashing heavily)
[00:52] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: err, resume, not restart.
[00:52] <panzor> sebsebseb: you only need to do chmod +x if you do ./<file>.bin -- "sh <file>.bin" should work without x rights
[00:52] <jeniffer> mord thank you very much....
[00:52] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: the "thrashing heavily" part of it was somewhat annoying, but it was easy enough to recover (just kill some apps and try again)
[00:52] <sebsebseb> panzor: if I remember correctly you need to use commands yes, but   you can't have a GUI  when running
[00:52] <super_hoops> ok i'm stuck already lol.  it says type "find /boot/grub/stage1...i get the error like it says i might.  so i put in find /grub/stage1 and i get the same error 15. file not found. any ideas?
[00:52] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I should have planty of space, so I think I could spare 4GB or so for swap on this computer just in case..
[00:52] <sebsebseb> panzor: alt  f7 or whatever it was
[00:52] <sebsebseb> panzor: for the shell
[00:52] <javyn> damn it, uninstalling kubuntu-desktop removed virtualbox
[00:53] <DasEi> !info iprelay | ralmar
[00:53] <javyn> i hope it didn't delete my VM
[00:53] <Kelwing> sebsebseb: is it you or panzor that is having a problem?
[00:53] <jeniffer> mord i asked about the driver ubuntu uses to calibrate the touchscreens, because i have been trying to do that by hand in another distro....not debian based.... I love ubuntu, but is too heavy for the hardware i have
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Kelwing: panzor
[00:53] <mzz> super_hoops: where are you typing this, exactly? In a grub running inside ubuntu, or in a grub running natively?
[00:53] <andresj> hey, is there a way to play a specific YouTube video in Totem? I have the URL, but I can't find the video w/ the search box in Totem (Movie Player).
[00:54] <kirlyin> is there a ubuntu ver of the logitech keyboard manager? or is there one built in?
[00:54] <Kelwing> panzor: what is your problem? i joined after you had asked
[00:54] <super_hoops> i'm opening the terminal and rubbing it inside ubuntu
[00:54] <DasEi> ralmar  : http://www.inliniac.net/blog/category/traffic-shaping
[00:54] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: for to heavy for the hardware you have?  does  the touch screen even work in Ubuntu?
[00:54] <mzz> super_hoops: hmm, sec
[00:55] <super_hoops> sorry for being a pain :)
[00:55] <mzz> super_hoops: I just haven't had to mess with grub recently
[00:55] <jeniffer> sebsebseb yes! it works perfectly...it is autocalibrated (i use this expression because i dont konw what else call it)
[00:55] <mzz> super_hoops: trying to remember if you have to mount your root partition inside ubuntu first
[00:55] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: ok good
[00:55] <sebsebseb> :)
[00:56] <mzz> super_hoops: actually, can you just try that? exit that grub prompt, make sure your partition is mounted (you can see /media/whatever/boot/grub/stage1), then try grub again
[00:56] <DasEi> ralmar  : wondershaper might also work
[00:56] <Guest54330> how come ubuntu says i only have 1 gig of ram when i have more
[00:57] <mzz> Guest54330: that sounds like you're using a kernel without high memory support for some reason
[00:57] <Guest54330> how can i fix that
[00:57] <mzz> Guest54330: which is odd, because the generic one has CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y. What kernel is this?
[00:57] <mzz> Guest54330: ("uname -a" will tell)
[00:58] <mord> jeniffer: hmm. i'm currently running jaunty on a n810, i wonder what h/w you have that is too slow for ubuntu :) anyway, i don't think the calibration is done by a driver per se, at least on my n810 i just get the /etc/pointercal values from nokia-tablets-pointercal. i suppose there are at least good guesses for most of the more common touchscreens somewhere out there
[00:58] <Guest54330> type that in terminal?
[00:58] <Kelwing> Guest54330:  Try also moving your RAM around to different slots.  I had this problem with my server, and that resolved it
[00:58] <mzz> Guest54330: yes
[00:58] <jeniffer> ubotu se esta poniendo brutico....no sabe nada de lo que le pregunto
[00:58] <Guest54330> im on a laptop i only have two slots ans there both used
[00:59] <mzz> Kelwing: I'm optimistically assuming this is a software problem, since I'm much better at fixing those :)
[00:59] <Guest54330> Linux amit-laptop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:00] <jeniffer> mord i have been trying with evtouch, but i havent been able to calibrate it... the pointer is never under my finger
[01:00] <doc``> i have some problem running a 32 bit java jdk, i installed ia32-sun-java6-bin but thats just JRE cant find a 32bit jdk
[01:00] <mzz> Guest54330: ok, so the obvious guess is out. Can you pastebin dmesg (try "dmesg|pastebinit", you may have to apt-get install pastebinit first)
[01:01] <Kelwing> mzz: It's a good idea to try a fix as harmless as mine before you go doing a lot of hard work
[01:01] <smerz> doc check the package manager
[01:01] <mzz> super_hoops: I have no idea what "merged them together" means in partition magic. Also, please stay on the channel, but include my nick.
[01:01] <raving> Is there a way to bounce off the CD into a USB-Key based installation?
[01:01] <smerz> the jdk can be found in there
[01:01] <mzz> Kelwing: I must admit I also assumed the ram worked before (in a different os) so I'm glad you reminded me of the hardware side of things
[01:02] <Kelwing> raving: why not just do a pure usb key install?
[01:02] <Kelwing> raving: no usb booting support?
[01:02] <Guest54330> whats the command that goes before apt-get
[01:02] <raving> Kelwing: yep
[01:02] <mzz> Guest54330: "sudo", perhaps?
[01:02] <raving> Kelwing: it's pretty old hardware, from 2002 or so
[01:02] <smerz> Guest54330: normally "sudo" as in superuser do
[01:03] <Kelwing> raving: It is possible, I remember one was distributed with Slax
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Guest54330: sudo apt-get install program
[01:03] <mord> jeniffer: have you tried ts_calibrate and then stuffing the values to /etc/pointercal?
[01:03] <Kelwing> raving: I'll go see if I can find one for you
[01:03] <mzz> raving: it's quite possible to get a linux kernel + initramfs from the cd and everything else off the usb stick, but that doesn't help if most of the installer is in initramfs, which it might be.
[01:03] <super_hoops> mzz: sorry, new to all this lol.  basically when i installed ubuntu it was supposed to go to the G: partition that i'd created...but for some reason it created a new partition i: and installed to that but it only created a partition large enough to install linux and not enough to actually install any updates etc.  so i formatted both G & i partitions and joined them together to form one G partition. this is what has caus
[01:03] <super_hoops> ed all the problems.
[01:04] <jeniffer> mord noup, i did not know ts_calibrate.... i will google for it! thanks a lot!
[01:04] <mord> jeniffer: np
[01:04] <Kelwing> raving: try this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-810/
[01:04] <jeniffer> mord good bye!!!
[01:04] <raving> Kelwing: thanks, i'll check it out
[01:04] <mzz> raving: I don't know how possible it is to get the kernel + initramfs from usb through the cd's bootloader (before booting a linux kernel)
[01:04] <Guest54330> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f70243d66
[01:04] <Kelwing> mzz: I know it is possible, I used one at my school for Slax
[01:04] <mzz> super_hoops: "formatted both G & I partitions" sounds like "erased all of linux" to me
[01:04] <raving> mzz: if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but if it does, that'll be great
[01:04] <mzz> super_hoops: am I missing something?
[01:04] <raving> Kelwing: that looks like exactly what i need
[01:05] <super_hoops> i think i may have yes.  but its messed up my dual boot so i can't even get into windows now to back stuff up for a complete fresh install.
[01:06] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me what this error means when making an archive.....
[01:06] <Kingsy101> An error occurred while adding files to the archive.
[01:06] <Kingsy101> (null)
[01:06] <cfedde> is there a way to load the nbr packages to a netbook that was upgraded using the update manager?
[01:06] <mzz> Guest54330: it really only sees 1 GiB (and it's a highmem-enabled kernel alright). Does the bios see all ram (during its boot time scan for example)?
[01:06] <norris> fx
[01:06] <CiPHER_> Can someone please help me fix my mouse problem on jaunty,Ive tried for two days now...Googling 100 topics did not work. The mouse randomly jumps across the screen and clicks
[01:07] <Kingsy101> after you click ok the archive still seems to be there and seems to be intact
[01:07] <Kelwing> cipher: are you on a laptop?
[01:07] <dsabecky> CiPHER_: What kind of mouse do you have? (Ball, Thumb, Optical, Laser, Trackpad)
[01:07] <mzz> super_hoops: if your ubuntu partition is still there you should be able to mount it through the livecd. If you can not or if that partition is now empty you'll have to reinstall ubuntu (or run the "repair" option from a windows install cd to get windows to boot again)
[01:08] <Guest54330> how can i check?
[01:08] <Guest54330> just in bios?
[01:08] <CiPHER_> dsabecky:ps2 ball mouse,2 buttons and a scroll button in the middle made by HP
[01:08] <mzz> Guest54330: I would check if the bios sees all ram, because if it doesn't it's highly unlikely the os is going to
[01:08] <Guest54330> ill brbr
[01:08] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:No im not
[01:08] <Kelwing> Cipher: does it act normally in other operating systems?
[01:09] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:It operated lovely under windows which I just wiped off my HDD
[01:09] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:Ive tried just about EVERYTHING,lol...
[01:09] <super_hoops> mzz: so it's just fixboot and fixmbr that i run in the xp recovery?
[01:09] <mzz> super_hoops: those would make windows boot again, iiuc.
[01:10] <mzz> super_hoops: if you did indeed format all linux partitions you've lost grub and would have to reinstall to get it back
[01:10] <smerz> CiPHER_: never heard of that :( sorry. maybe try using it as USB or PS2 (whatever you're using, try the other)
[01:10] <smerz> i suppose you use PS2 mouse correct?
[01:10] <CiPHER_> smerz:I tried that
[01:10] <Kelwing> CiPHER_ do you have any other mice around and you can try?
[01:10] <CiPHER_> smerz:yes,ps2
[01:10] <smerz> same effect ?
[01:11] <smerz> it's the same on usb ?
[01:11] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:let me check
[01:11] <super_hoops> mzz: yeah i just wanna get into windows so i can back everything up then format and just go full linux instead of messing with both os'
[01:11] <Kingsy101> does anyone have an idea about my issue ?
[01:12] <mzz> Kingsy101: how are you archiving, exactly?
[01:12] <mzz> Kingsy101: this sounds like a bug in the error reporting of the archiver
[01:12] <CiPHER_> smerz:well,I think I tried that,I edited the xorg.conf file if thats what your talking about
[01:12] <smerz> CiPHER_: try a different mouse additionally you could try a ps2->usb adapter
[01:13] <CiPHER_> smerz:The thing is this mouse works fine,except for when it jumps across screen clicking randomly
[01:13] <mzz> CiPHER_: bad hardware can do that because of how the ps/2 protocol works. If the mouse also supports usb switching to that will fix it
[01:13] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:No I dont
[01:13] <CiPHER_> mzz:Ok,how do I switch to USB
[01:14] <CiPHER_> mzz:File editing?
[01:14] <mgmuscari> does anybody know how to check whether compiz is using direct rendering?
[01:14] <norrisg1> Hello, i will help people with problems with ubuntu, edubuntu, and kubuntu
[01:14] <smerz> adapter or a 5$ mouse :(
[01:14] <mzz> CiPHER_: (I've had a ps/2 trackball do the same thing under windows (occasionally spazzing out with the pointer zooming around between the corners of the screen, occasionally clicking stuff in the process))
[01:14] <lstarnes> mgmuscari: if direct rendering is enabled it should work.  try glxinfo | grep ^direct
[01:14] <mzz> CiPHER_: it depends on the hardware. If the mouse supports it just finding a ps/2 -> usb adapter and plugging in through that will fix it.
[01:14] <mzz> CiPHER_: (please keep in mind ps/2 is *not* generally hotpluggable, although usb is)
[01:14] <CiPHER_> mzz:ahh..I dont have an adapter :(
[01:15] <norrisg1> Anyone here need help
[01:15] <smerz> I had a KVM that would work fine using PS2 mice under windows. but not in linux. so linux apparently is more sensitive here
[01:15] <Enissay> How can i list the content of "/" with size?
[01:15] <Kelwing> CiPHER: along with what mzz said, this happens with old/well used hardware.  I have not really found a fix for this.  Hopefully you do.
[01:15] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:Yes,this has stumped everyone Ive spoken with and ive yet to see this problem before,lol
[01:15] <mzz> CiPHER_: there's a kernel option that may mitigate the problem somewhat. I haven't found a good page describing this, but http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Unix/Linux/LINUX_ErraticMouseBehaviorwithMouseFedoraandBelkinKVM.shtml is close.
[01:16] <Kelwing> CiPHER_: If you try another mouse it would help us rule out ubuntu being the problem
[01:16] <smerz> Enissay: via GUI or commandline?
[01:16] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:Let me try to find one
[01:16] <Cryp\ict_Donkey> Gos is cool
[01:16] <mzz> CiPHER_: (I'm talking mainly about the psmouse.resetafter kernel parameter, but please read the entire page for some background on the problem)
[01:16] <sevodnya> enissay: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer gives you a graphical breakdown, if that would help
[01:17] <Enissay> smerz, commandline
[01:17] <smerz> hang on
[01:17] <Enissay> sevodnya, thanks :)
[01:17] <Guest65233> nm mzz i always had 1 gig lol im a idiot
[01:17] <mzz> CiPHER_: (it's triggered by single bytes being dropped between the mouse and the computer, so it does probably happen more with old hardware with a slightly bad cable or connection)
[01:18] <smerz> there are 2 commands enissay, one to see filesystem usage and one to see the size of all subfolders etc (essentially the size of the location you're in)
[01:18] <Kelwing> CiPHER_: so time for a new mouse
[01:18] <leagris> Enissay, with cmd line use: du -skh /*
[01:18] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:trying another one now
[01:18] <smerz> du is for filesystem usage
[01:18] <mzz> Guest65233: it's possible you have more but it's not all accessible because of some hardware issue. But as long as the bios doesn't see all of it you're almost certainly wasting your time debugging the os.
[01:18] <smerz> and for folder content size i use "du --max-depth=1 -m -c -x . | sort -n -r"
[01:19] <smerz> that gives you the sizes in order and in megabytes
[01:19] <smerz> and total at the end
[01:20] <karl_> can somebody help me? i have a problem with a via driver
[01:20] <smerz> karl_: just state your problem. I most likely wont be able to help but just state your issue
[01:20] <Kelwing> mzz: did he try my suggestion?
[01:20] <Kelwing> mzz: for the ram
[01:21] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:other mouse seems to be working fine
[01:21] <norrisg1> karl_ i help you in IM
[01:21] <mzz> Kelwing: iiuc he only has the two slots to work with (laptop hardware) so reseating isn't much of an option (beyond swapping them around to verify they both work)
[01:21] <Kelwing> mzz: swapping actually fixes it sometimes
[01:21] <mzz> Guest65233: ^^^
[01:21] <Kelwing> mzz: you'd be surprised
[01:22] <mzz> Kelwing: hardware issues have long ago ceased to surprise me
[01:22] <norrisg1> Karl_ i will help you with your via driver problem to my best extent , i im you
[01:22] <Wiseguy> hey guys, im trying to get my broadcom 4306 chipped wireless card working... im trying to use fwcutter right now but when i try and scan with iwlist, it doesnt list anything.. my dmesg looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/tApOO678.html
[01:22] <Confused19> I could use some help if someone can provide it
[01:22] <norrisg1> ok
[01:22] <soreau_> How can you re-enable Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc in Jaunty?
[01:22] <mzz> !dontzap | soreau_
[01:22] <lstarnes> !dontzap | soreau_
[01:22] <Kelwing> mzz: same, i try everything because some of the oddest things fix problems.
[01:22] <mgmuscari> soreau_: i'd be interested in knowing that too
[01:23] <norrisg1> confused19 i will help you i just sent a IM to you
[01:23] <soreau_> mdeslaur: ubottu just said how to do it
[01:23] <mgmuscari> hmmm
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Wiseguy: Is that an integrated chipset (laptop)?
[01:24] <Enissay> smerz, 5130    ./var  => what do that mean?
[01:24] <mgmuscari> how about alt=sysrq+REISUB
[01:24] <Kelwing> Confused19: Just ask your questions and someone will help you if they can.
[01:24] <boot_loop> does anyone have a link to a block of html code that would make a whois form on my website? I want the form to access the whois client on my webserver and send the user to a page that displays the result of the query.
[01:24] <mgmuscari> that's alt+sysrq
[01:24] <smerz> Enissay: /var is 5130 megabytes large if you used my command
[01:24] <smerz> Enissay: around 5 GB
[01:24] <Enissay> waaaaa
[01:24] <mgmuscari> boot_loop: you'll need a server-side script for that. php maybe?
[01:25] <mzz> Kelwing: come to think of it, I have personal experience with that ram reseeating (fun nvidia board with a picky "dual channel" memory controller)
[01:25] <Enissay> is it normal?
[01:25] <mzz> boot_loop: you'd need serverside scripting for that
[01:25] <mzz> heh, sorry mgmuscari, I don't bother to read, obviously
[01:25] <smerz> Enissay: my /var is 700 mb
[01:26] <Enissay> I have ~9GB for / and there  s no free space there.... cant understand why!!!
[01:26] <smerz> well /var is using 5 GB
[01:26] <smerz> go into /var and run my command again
[01:26] <mzz> Enissay: you may want to change that --max-depth a little so you can see what in /var is using up space.
[01:26] <smerz> it'll tell you
[01:26] <mzz> Enissay: and/or cd into /var, yes.
[01:26] <Wiseguy> Paddy_EIRE, no, it is a linksys pci card
[01:26] <lstarnes> Enissay: a lot of stuff is installed in directories under /
[01:27] <boot_loop> mgmuscari: ok thanks I will look into it...
[01:27] <Enissay> [01:27] <smerz> Enissay: there you go :D
[01:28] <mgmuscari> boot_loop: no problem.
[01:28] <karl_> i have a msi  mainboard, PM8M-V,   iget the error screen isn't compsited. please run comiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager, i installed compiz, but i do something wrong i think
[01:28] <xub2303> http://pastebin.com/m3e6faa76
[01:29] <grkblood13> i keep getting this error about mmsh protocol when i try to listen to online radio station and synaptic cant seem to find a package, any1 knwo a fix?
[01:29] <smerz> grkblood13: my favorite has got to be vlc. try that
[01:29] <norrisg1> (quit: "quit" ).
[01:29] <smerz> grkblood13: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:30] <grkblood13> i have vlc
[01:30] <Enissay> smerz, i found some files there of 1.1GB xD
[01:30] <grkblood13> i was looking for soemthign to fix the default
[01:30] <mikeh789> anybody here have a slingbox??
[01:30] <Enissay> smerz, your command gives folder only
[01:30] <norrisg1> Anyone need some help?
[01:30] <smerz> Enissay: possible yeah
[01:31] <Wiseguy> hey guys, im trying to get my broadcom 4306 chipped wireless card working... im trying to use fwcutter right now but when i try and scan with iwlist, it doesnt list anything.. my dmesg looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/tApOO678.html
[01:31] <karl_> i have a msi  mainboard, PM8M-V,  iget the error screen isn't compsited. please run comiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager, i installed compiz, but i do something wrong i think
[01:32] <sevodnya> karl: when do you get this error?
[01:32] <Enissay> smerz, I have 2 files of 1.1GB each: syslog, kern.log   ....  what are they?
[01:32] <Kelwing> Wiseguy: are you using 9.04? They added a lot of support for broadcom cards in 9.04.
[01:32] <lstarnes> Enissay: log files
[01:33] <smerz> Enissay: system log and kernel log, normally these are only kept for 1 week. so they should not grow to 1.1GB
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> A 1 gb log file?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> that seems... odd... where they at exactly Enissay ?
[01:33] <owned> mikeh: I have 2 set up in my house
[01:33] <karl_> AWN starts
[01:33] <Enissay> at /var/log location
[01:33] <karl_> compiz config also doesn't work
[01:34] <Kelwing> karl_: have you installed your video card drivers?
[01:34] <karl_> i don't think so, but witch one are they
[01:35] <[esde]> ok so i have gnome-power-manager appearing twice, i kill one, but it keeps coming back, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[01:35] <Kelwing> karl_: go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[01:36] <karl_> yes
[01:36] <karl_> nothing there
[01:36] <Kelwing> karl_: what video card do you have?
[01:36] <karl_> it is a onboard
[01:36] <Kelwing> karl_: what model is your system?
[01:37] <karl_> i don't know witch one. the mainboard is MS-7104
[01:38] <[esde]> ok so i have gnome-power-manager appearing twice, i kill one, but it keeps coming back, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[01:38] <sevodnya> karl_: can you run "lspci|grep VGA" in a terminal and give us the results?
[01:38] <Enissay> I have also 3files of 379MB each: kern.log.0, syslog.0 messages.0 and afile of 973MB : messages x_x
[01:38] <flashblind> karl_:
[01:38] <flashblind> |pastebin |kar
[01:39] <norrisg1> ch
[01:39] <flashblind> |pastebin | karl_
[01:39] <[esde]> !pastebin | kar
[01:40] <norrisg1> bye bye
[01:40] <Azodon> my favorite program to run in a terminal is cmatrix
[01:41] <taylor> Kelwing, we just installed 9.04 on my daughter's Dell inspiron 1501, which has the broadcom bcm4401-b0. we also went to this web site, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php, to get the driver. They only support bcm4311, 4312, 4321, and 4322. Dose this mean thar rhere is no support for my wifi?
[01:41] <tonytraductor> cmatrix RULES!
[01:41] <smerz> Enissay: if you have logs cycling enabled. so you got messages, messages.0, messages.1 ... messages.6 and your logs are still 1.1GB on those first files you may wanna have a look in these logs as to why they are so big
[01:41] <tonytraductor> other terminal programs I like (and am running as I type) irssi/irc client, and lynx-text web browser
[01:42] <karl_> nothing appears
[01:42] <ldiamond> I have compiled a driver, I need to load it when ubuntu boots. How can I do that?
[01:42] <wombatunder1> I'm trying to get my mobile broadband adaptor to work in ubuntu 8.04. I have been trying to follow a few different threads in the ubuntu forums however I think I'm missing something and it's not working. Could someone please single chat with me to try to help me fix the problem?
[01:42] <Pici> !ppagpg | Justin10ec
[01:43] <Kelwing> taylor: try this: http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/4401.php
[01:43] <sevodnya> taylor: I'm running on a 1501 here, incidently; I'm running 8.10 here, but I was able to use Hardware Drivers to install wireless support.
[01:44] <Kelwing> sevodnya: it looks like his card isn't completely supported yet.  Hes going to have to set it up manually
[01:44] <Dub-T> Any good dj software for ubuntu?
[01:44] <Kelwing> Dub-T: have you looked at Ubuntu Studio?
[01:45] <smerz> taylor: check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/broadcom-bcm4401-drivers-43214/
[01:45] <smerz> it should have some info on this
[01:45] <Dub-T> Yea, but thats really just Ardour
[01:45] <LjL> !good | Dub-T
[01:46] <devindersingh> Hi
[01:46] <devindersingh> I have set up ubuntu with two network cards
[01:46] <devindersingh> LAN and WAN
[01:46] <sevodnya> kelwing: I'm running on an identical machine here, in 8.10, and it works beautifully if you install the driver through System > Administration > Hardware Drivers; I would be surprised if that's no longer the case uner 9.04.
[01:46] <b1n42y> hi all, evolution calendar is freezing up any ideas ?
[01:46] <devindersingh> what i want to do is that i need the Ubuntu machine to connect to a HTTP proxy server
[01:47] <smerz> b1n42y: works like a charm for me :(
[01:47] <devindersingh> so that LAN users when they browse the net
[01:47] <Enissay> smerz, everything freeze when trying to open it xD.... how to disable what you called "log cycling"?
[01:47] <devindersingh> would be taken directly to the proxy server
[01:47] <devindersingh> and
[01:47] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, thats no problem
[01:47] <devindersingh> i dont want them to set any proxy on the Browser
[01:47] <devindersingh> how can i do that
[01:47] <Kelwing> sevodnya: you have a different card.  Some broadcom cards are supported, some aren't.  Hes tried installing through Hardware Drivers already.
[01:47] <b1n42y> smerz: worked great for me also for the last 8 mths, very upset
[01:47] <smerz> Enissay: log cycling is something you want. for the moment you can just delete the biggest files (or all of em)
[01:47] <Kelwing> sevodnya: I have a broadcom card too.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> devindersingh:  i recall a 'transparent proxy' howto ages ago for that sort of thing.. (but ive never used it)
[01:48] <devindersingh> Hi Dr
[01:48] <smerz> Enissay: but i suggest reading the logs once they build up again. could be some issue with your system
[01:48] <devindersingh> can you let me know what needs to be configured on the Ubuntu
[01:48] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, sudo nano /etc/envrionment
[01:48] <devindersingh> yesterday i tried to install squid on the ubuntu
[01:48] <b1n42y> !evolution
[01:48] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, then add this line http_proxy=http://proxy-url
[01:48] <Enissay> smerz, is it safe?
[01:49] <smerz> Enissay: /var/log yes
[01:49] <Enissay> ^^
[01:49] <smerz> as long as you stay within /var/log !!!!
[01:49] <devindersingh> but i still need to enter the IP address of the Ubuntu WAN
[01:49] <devindersingh> realy thats all
[01:49] <devindersingh> wow
[01:49] <devindersingh> Hi FOx
[01:49] <smerz> Enissay: but theres a chance that something is going wrong continuously, thats why you should have a look into the newly written logs
[01:49] <devindersingh> is that all not tother settings
[01:50] <smerz> Enissay: i'm thinking disk failures etc
[01:50] <kirlyin> whenever you do sudo apt-get <fill in the blank> and after you get it, you have to update right? is the command updatedb?
[01:50] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, thats all you need, just set that, then logout and back in and you'll be set
[01:50] <smerz> kirlyin: after you use sudo apt-get install program. there is no need for updatedb
[01:50] <devindersingh> how about IP tables any setings to add to IP tables
[01:50] <smerz> kirlyin:  updatedb reads all files in your filesystem for fast searching using the command locate
[01:51] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, for a user to access the web via a proxy? nope.
[01:51] <smerz> it creates a database of all files on your harddisk
[01:51] <devindersingh> instead od proxy URL can i add the proxy server IP address and port number
[01:51] <devindersingh> <IP_ADDRESS>:62001
[01:51] <kirlyin> ok, so what do i do when it says it can't find the newly downloaded file?
[01:51] <devindersingh> i dont know the proxy URL
[01:51] <Wall975> Hello
[01:51] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, yup, that will be fine
[01:52] <devindersingh> ok thanks Fox
[01:52] <devindersingh> ill give a try now and get back soon
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin How was it downloaded, with firefox or other
[01:52] <smerz> kirlyin: you mean a newly downloaded program correct? not a file
[01:52] <kirlyin> program your right sorry
[01:52] <Wall975> hello
[01:52] <kirlyin> no i used a terminal
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin what are you trying to install or run
[01:53] <Kelwing> kirlyin: wget?
[01:53] <kirlyin> g15daemon
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin Have you looked in our repos to be sure we dont already have a version
[01:53] <sevodnya> kirlyin: you downloaded g15daemon using apt-get, yes?
[01:54] <kirlyin> sudo apt-get g15daemon

[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin sudo apt-get install g15daemon or something right
[01:54] <kirlyin> and it started the download
[01:54] <kirlyin> ya but theres a difference between install and get...right?
[01:54] <josephseraos> poxa... não to conseguindo fazer o emesene,nem o amsn conectar
[01:54] <beilabs> anyone here have much luck with jaunty and vodafone wireless broadband?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin sudo apt-get install g15daemon  would do what you wanted
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin you should be able to find it in /var/cache/apt/archives and dbl click it
[01:55] <smerz> apt-get install <insert program here> most of the time downloads and install a program. this can be different for services/servers though
[01:55] <Devinder> hi fox
[01:56] <Devinder> the proxy url is already there
[01:56] <[esde]> ok so i have gnome-power-manager appearing twice, i kill one, but it keeps coming back, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[01:57] <sevodnya> esde: does power management work correctly other than this?
[01:57] <[esde]> yes
[01:57] <kirlyin> g15daemon is already the newest version.
[01:57] <[esde]> its just annoying having two icons
[01:57] <kirlyin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:57] <Devinder> Foxubuntu hi
[01:58] <Devinder> i just checked what u had told me and the proxy url is already set thee
[01:58] <Devinder> in /etc/environment
[01:58] <[esde]> sevodnya:
[01:58] <[esde]> yes
[01:58] <[esde]> its just annoying having two icons
[01:58] <Devinder> but when i browse from the LAN
[01:58] <Devinder> i still dont get across the proxy server
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !info g15daemon
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> Screen multiplexer  - NOW thats a fancy term....
[01:59] <smerz> what does it mean? :D
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> that dosent really tell much does it.. :)
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> It lets apps share the display
[01:59] <ryan_> wuchu talkin bout willis
[01:59] <th0r> [esde], try deleting them both, log out, log in, and see if you get one or two (or none)
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> I got a G15 - it works decently well with those tools
[01:59] <[esde]> i used "kill 27419" and it seems to have worked now.
[02:00] <kirlyin> i actually have the g11, but no lcd screen on the keyboard, big deal, i just need the g-keys to work
[02:01] <TheGhost> salut
[02:02] <simmerz1> hi. when i installed jaunty netbook remix, it installed the i686 version. why didn't it install lpia?
[02:03] <TheGhost> hey can u help  i dont know how to install my ATI under backtrack 4
[02:03] <TheGhost> ?
[02:06] <svensko> anyone here use the minimal CD install? I have a few questions
[02:06] <Sagaci> !ask | svensko
[02:07] <svensko> doh, i should know better than that Sagaci
[02:07] <simmerz1> hi. when i installed jaunty netbook remix, it installed the i686 version. why didn't it install lpia?
[02:08] <sevenseeker> ubuntu 9.04, Xvfb, headless, Mesa: attempting to run with 32 bit color depth does not work, any suggestions?  (/usr/bin/X11/Xvfb :10.10 -screen 10 1600x1200x32 -ac -br -kb -c -fbdir /var/tmp/) No useful message and no log available to help troubleshoot
[02:08] <mikeh789> NBR 9.04 was slow on me eee... anybody know how to speed it up??
[02:08] <svensko> if one installs ubuntu using the minimal CD install, then installs gnome through aptitude, does it install the default brown ubuntu theme?
[02:08] <svensko> mikeh789, try a minial CD install
[02:08] <ryan_> mikeh789: which model eee doy ou have
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> svensko:  if you install 'ubuntu-desktop' it should
[02:09] <cesarino> Hi mainbord pm8m-v, system test is ok, with awn manager i  get a error to config compiz fusion
[02:09] <mikeh789> 900
[02:09] <ryan_> hmm
[02:09] <svensko> mikeh789, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155961
[02:09] <svensko> and then run XFCE
[02:09] <ryan_> im on my 1000he right now, UNR runs decently fast
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> UNR runs ok on my AcerAspireOne
[02:09] <ryan_> maybe consider upgrading the memory
[02:10] <judget_> well i tried Jaunty but too many issues on my system Im gonna  go back to hardy
[02:10] <svensko> i use vanilla 9.04 on my acer aspire one without complains
[02:10] <svensko> even had compiz doing its voodoo
[02:10] <mikeh789> gnome runs fine, even in 9.04
[02:10] <cesarino> Hi mainbord pm8m-v, system test is ok, with awn manager i  get a error to config compiz fusio
[02:10] <svensko> are you trying to use KDE?
[02:10] <judget_> well it seems that i keep gettin xserver issues with several apps
[02:10] <judget_> im using gnome
[02:10] <svensko> sorry, mikeh789, are you trying to use KDE?
[02:10] <judget_> totem keeps crashing
[02:10] <simmerz1> guys, are you running lpia UNR?
[02:10] <judget_> so does ekiga
[02:10] <BorkedAlsa> can anybody recommend a guide or something to get alsa working correctly
[02:10] <simmerz1> or i686?
[02:11] <taylor> Kelwing, thanks for the pointer. From what i read the broadcom driver, bcm4401, should already be in the 2.6 kernel. So why was it not recognize?
[02:11] <judget_> the video seemed better on Jaunty but too many other issues like also gspca
[02:12] <BorkedAlsa> does anybody here have alsa working the way it's supposed to?
[02:13] <cesarino> Hi mainbord pm8m-v, system test is ok, with awn manager i  get a error to config compiz fusio
[02:13] <mikeh789> KDE and default gnome both seem fine with 9.04, just the NBR interface was VERY slow...
[02:15] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: yes
[02:15] <svensko> ah mikeh789, isn't it possible to disable it?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> cesarino:  you need to find out what video card you are using, and either enable compiz for it, or figure out why compiz iswent working.. or use some other compositing window manager
[02:16] <BorkedAlsa> DasEi: what did you have to do? I can't even begin to get JACK to play nice while I'm depending on OSS and Pulse all the time
[02:17] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: just disable pulse, then.
[02:17] <DasEi> !alsa | BorkedAlsa
[02:17] <taylor> how to check if kernel 2.6 has broadcom module already installed?
[02:17] <BorkedAlsa> I tried that last install and I was left with only OSS
[02:17] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: versions of pulse and jackd that play well via dbus aren't yet ready
[02:17] <wombatunder1> how do I use "make install"?
[02:17] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: huh? it's fairly straightforward even if you're using Ubuntu.
[02:18] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: which soundcard ?
[02:18] <ldiamond> I need to load a driver at boot (insmod pathtomydriver). How do I do that ?
[02:18] <judget_> I have to admit that this was an upgrade from intrepid to jaunty that may nhave not gone all that well
[02:18] <BorkedAlsa> m-audio fast track USB
[02:18] <mikeh789> anybody using a sling box??
[02:18] <koshari> wombatunder1 it needs to bu run with root permissan, you may want to look into checkinstall, it makes it easier to remove the binary
[02:18] <BorkedAlsa> worked great in hardy, intrepid took a lot of work but at least ALSA was out-of-the-box OK
[02:19] <koshari> mikeh789:  what is it
[02:19] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: 1) touch $HOME/.pulse_a11y_nostart ; echo "autospawn = no" >> $HOME/.pulse/client.conf ; killall pulseaudio
[02:19] <DasEi> !who | BorkedAlsa
[02:19] <koshari>  taylor: lsmon
[02:19] <Kelwing> koshari: its a way to transmit your DVR to any computer.
[02:19] <mikeh789> streams TV over network..
[02:19] <koshari> taylor sorry, lsmod
[02:19] <c0ntract0r> please tell me that there is an undelete function for mounted harddrives
[02:19] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: one sec
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> !undelete
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> c0ntract0r:  good luck with that...
[02:20] <koshari> mikeh789 oh like vlc?
[02:20] <mrwes> heh Doc
[02:20] <wombatunder1> koshari, I don't know what it is. I'm trying to install a driver for a huawei E169 and the USB Modeswitch ?program? says to use "Make Install".
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> c0ntract0r:  it MIGHT be in the .trash-*** dir on the hard drive
[02:20] <Kelwing> koshari: its a physical box you hook up to your TV
[02:20] <c0ntract0r> ok thx Dr_Willis i will check
[02:21] <wombatunder1> koshari I'm following this http://www.dbe.cc/?p=36
[02:21] <Kelwing> mikeh789: what is your problem?
[02:21] <c0ntract0r> this is on an ntfs partition by the way
[02:21] <jim__> c0ntract0r: I've recently had VERY good result from foremost.
[02:21] <mikeh789> NO its proprietary... some new update has made the slingplayer break in wine...
[02:21] <koshari> wombatunder1 make install is a command used as part of build essentual to create a binary from source.
[02:21] <jim__> c0ntract0r: on an ntfs partition which was then formatted with ext3.  Still recovered 100+ word docs.
[02:21] <wombatunder1> hmmm
[02:21] <mrwes> valuable alias: alias rm='rm -i'
[02:21] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: lspci | grep audio          >output ?
[02:21] <mrwes> :)
[02:21] <Kelwing> mikeh789: have you tried installing it?
[02:22] <ldiamond> I need to load a driver at boot (insmod pathtomydriver). How do I do that ?
[02:22] <Kelwing> mikeh789: reinstalling*
[02:22] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:22] <mikeh789> yeah...
[02:22] <c0ntract0r> i just deleted some folders and must've caught the wrong ones as well. OMG all my recorded stuff
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  theres a modules file, or load it from rc.local
[02:22] <mattyb> Has anyone here successfully gotten ICS setup?
[02:22] <koshari> wombatunder1 what ubuntu are you using?
[02:22] <mikeh789> I have cruncheee on an sd card that I haven't updated in months, and it still works there...
[02:23] <taylor> lsmod shows that b44 is installed in the kernel. Is there anything special i have to do to get it to work?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> mattyb:  some 7+ yrs ago.. yes :)
[02:23] <ldiamond> Dr_Willis, I tried adding insmod mydriver in rc.local, didnt work
[02:23] <wombatunder1> I'm using 8.04
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> mattyb:  i followed the ip-masquerading howto back then in the befor ubuntu days
[02:23] <homeskillet> wireless stopped workin on mylaptop on my wlan. it wont even show a list of wireless networks and 'enable wireless' is dimmed. any idea why?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  use modprobe
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  becuse it should work if you can do it via the command line
[02:23] <mattyb> I need to set up a wired connection to use the wireless connection's internet, but the Ubuntu Wiki page is outdated.
[02:23] <mrwes> Dr_Willis, I remember running IP masq in Slakwarze :)
[02:23] <mattyb> has anyone done this recently?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  be sure to put it befor the 'exit(0)' command
[02:24] <ldiamond> Dr_Willis, how do I see error messages from rc.local script?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> mrwes:  :) i did it with DIALUP to share my whole lan to the dialup modem.. other pc;s would nmake the server dialup the isp
[02:24] <Kelwing> mikeh789: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3136
[02:24] <mrwes> Dr_Willis I was on a dial-up too
[02:24] <mrwes> heh
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  never noticed, you could make thecommand pipe output to some file. or check dmesg.
[02:24] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: maybe I'm missing something in the command you mentioned because I'm getting no process killed
[02:24] <wombatunder1> homeskillet: I had a laptop that would do that, it turned out all that was needed was to push the wireless network card on/off switch
[02:24] <mrwes> 56K modem! woowoo
[02:24] <Kelwing> mikeh789: the newest version is listed as garbage
[02:25] <Kelwing> mikeh789: at least the beta
[02:25] <mikeh789> yeah, i was using the older one 1.5
[02:25] <homeskillet> wombatunder1 i dont have a wireless nic card on/off switch on my laptop afaik
[02:25] <Kelwing> mikeh789: try downloading 2.0 from the slingbox website
[02:26] <wombatunder1> homeskillet: I'm sorry, I don't know what else then :-(
[02:26] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I tried that today
[02:26] <wombatunder1> koshari: I'm using Hardy, 8.04
[02:26] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I get a dot net install error
[02:27] <Kelwing> mikeh789: the new version uses the .net framework?
[02:27] <chetnick> Anybody using VLC on Jaunty?
[02:27] <DasEi>  chetnick: yes
[02:27] <mikeh789> Kelwing: said it was optional, but the installer failed with out it
[02:28] <eseven73> !anyone
[02:28] <Kelwing> mikeh789: are you using the slingplayer linux script?
[02:28] <mikeh789> Kelwing: could be another issuer, and thats the message its throwing
[02:28] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: if you rise alsamixergui, is your card shown correctly ?
[02:29] <Wall975> Hello
[02:29] <mikeh789> Kelwing: basically what I did was like the script....
[02:29] <kingsofleon> Has anyone used the Ubuntu One service yet?
[02:29] <kingsofleon> nd if so, what do you think?
[02:30] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Well, people seem to be having a lot of issues with version 2.0.  I'm seeing mixed results posted on the wine appdb.
[02:30] <codename> Hey is it possible to triple boot?
[02:30] <codename> well I know it is
[02:30] <codename> But would it be a pain
[02:30] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Can you use 1.5 without updating?
[02:30] <mikeh789> will Ubuntu One be as large as I need??
[02:30] <codename> I wanted to triple boot Sabayon, Vista and Ubuntu.
[02:30] <lstarnes> codename: not much more than a dual boot
[02:31] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I'm not going to update cruncheee until I find another solution
[02:31] <Wall975> Hi
[02:31] <Kelwing> mikeh789: well, I can't seem to find a definite solution.
[02:31] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: well now I'm getting this from alsamixer    ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[02:31] <mikeh789> Kelwing: its not the wine update either
[02:31] <Kelwing> mikeh789: ya, it's version 2.0 of slingplayer
[02:32] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: use asoundconf set-default-card
[02:32] <Kelwing> mikeh789: are you using ubuntu 9.04?
[02:32] <mikeh789> Kelwing: 8.10
[02:32] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: done
[02:33] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I haven't tried it in 9.04, and I will
[02:33] <devindersingh> hi
[02:33] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: did you also use those other commands i gave you?
[02:33] <Kelwing> mikeh789: 9.04 is worse
[02:33] <devindersingh> how can i forward all request from LAN to an external proxy
[02:33] <devindersingh> i have Ubuntu with two NIC
[02:33] <devindersingh> WAN and LAN
[02:33] <Kelwing> mikeh789: All tests for 9.04 have been listed as garbage
[02:33] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Slingplayer 2.0 seems to not work with wine much at all
[02:33] <devindersingh> when users accesss from LAN on Browser they shoud go to a proxy server
[02:33] <mikeh789> Kelwing: great
[02:34] <kebomix> my network blocked torrent , how to get around that , i need to download torrent file ?
[02:34] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: the command to kill pulse reported nothing killed
[02:34] <Kelwing> mikeh789: All test results are either bronze or garbage
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> kebo offtopic
[02:34] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I'm fine with 1.5, I prefer it...
[02:34] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: good
[02:34] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Sticking with 1.5 looks like your best option
[02:34] <homeskillet> how can i try to force my laptop to find and connect to my wireless router?
[02:34] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: did you follow the directions for "asoundconf set-default-card"?
[02:35] <homeskillet> it's not doin it automatically any more
[02:35] <mikeh789> Kelwing: if I can get it working again
[02:35] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:but you choosed alsa from the preferences tab?
[02:35] <c0ntract0r> If I don't have any audio programs open etc, what would cause me to not be able to unmount a hd drive?
[02:35] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: yes "asoundconf set-default-card Track"
[02:35] <sevodnya> homeskillet: can you see the network in the network manager?
[02:35] <macman> can you create a primary parition with inside a extended parition ?
[02:35] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: does "speaker-test -c2" work as expected?
[02:36] <Kelwing> mikeh789: there is a tutorial on winehq.org if you can't remember where you found one the first time
[02:36] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: lemme see
[02:36] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I got it all saved locally
[02:36] <RHorse> uh oh
[02:36] <Kelwing> mikeh789: alright, good luck.
[02:36] <homeskillet> sevodnya no
[02:36] <mikeh789> Kelwing: thanks
[02:36] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:and then.. I wonder you said usb ? is it internal orusb ?
[02:37] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: usb
[02:37] <sevodnya> homeskillet: can you run "sudo iwlist scanning" in a terminal and see whether the network appears?
[02:37] <homeskillet> sevodnya and 'enable networking' is checked but 'enable wireless' is dimmed and uncheckable
[02:37] <Enissay> i wanna install a fresh version of jaunty, i have 3 partitions: / /home and swap... so i can keep my /home location.... can i keep my theme also? -GNOME-
[02:37] <sevodnya> homeskillet: nvm that last one then
[02:37] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:lsusb | grep audio
[02:37] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: i got Playback open error: -111,Connection refused
[02:37] <devindersingh> hi
[02:37] <devindersingh> has anoone set up ubuntu machine with two niC
[02:37] <homeskillet> sevodnya it says the network is down and the interface doesnt support canning
[02:38] <DasEi> devindersingh: yes
[02:38] <devindersingh> all LAN connection HTTP would be forwarded to a proxy servr IP
[02:38] <devindersingh> Hi Das
[02:38] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[02:38] <BorkedAlsa> DesEi: ok was that supposed to return anything?
[02:38] <sevodnya> homeskillet: how about "iwconfig"
[02:39] <RHorse> just installed dsl what a nifty lil os
[02:39] <jeremy_> my computer keeps restarting by itself
[02:39] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:hoped so, just lsusb itself ?
[02:39] <homeskillet> sevodnya for wlan it says a lot of stuff essid:"", etc
[02:39] <jeremy_> i have ubuntu version 8.10
[02:39] <jeremy_> i have no clue whether its hardware or software related
[02:39] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: the device is listed Bus 001 Device 019: ID 0763:2010 Midiman M-Audio Fast Track
[02:40] <devindersingh> hi DasEi can u assist on this
[02:40] <sevodnya> homeskillet: does your laptop have a hardware switch for the wireless card?
[02:40] <charles__> what program do you guys use to connect to a cisco via serial?
[02:40] <jeremy_> i have no clue on what to do
[02:40] <homeskillet> sevodnya doesnt seem to
[02:40] <jeremy_> >.<
[02:41] <jasonmchristos> anyone in here have experience using replicator?
[02:41] <BorkedAlsa> the thing that kills me is that when using OSS sound test works fine
[02:41] <Justin10ec> Has anyone had any problems with laptops overheating? It seems my laptop gets very hot when running Ubuntu (9.04) but not when running Vista.
[02:41] <chetnick> Does anybody have full screen controls in VLC on Jaunty?
[02:42] <JaredK> you say your laptop gets hot when running ubuntu but not windows?
[02:42] <JaredK> that is really weird
[02:42] <hobophobe> I have a 1 gb usb thumb drive, trying to install unr.  it always says there are two corrupt files, but the live boot works fine: can I somehow complete the install over the network or something?
[02:42] <Justin10ec> JaredK: Yeah, it is.
[02:42] <jeremy_> whenever it does this restarting, a screen pops up saying "no drivers found"
[02:42] <joeDeuce> Justin10ec: my hdd gets real hot on my laptop, but the processor stays cooler than with XP for me
[02:42] <JaredK> oh
[02:42] <JaredK> I see
[02:42] <RHorse> Justin10ec have a lap cooler
[02:42] <chetnick> i had that issue with IBM Thinkpad t42 and Feisty. The fan was always on, and the computer was getting hot.
[02:43] <BorkedAlsa> DasEi: do you think it might be a more practical use of my time trying to get JACK and OSS to play together until Karmic comes out?
[02:43] <JaredK> yeah
[02:43] <Justin10ec> joeDeuce: How can I check the temperature?
[02:43] <JaredK> in bios
[02:43] <jeremy_> could somebody please help me? >.<
[02:43] <sevodnya> homeskillet: could you specify what model or driver your wireless card is?
[02:43] <RHorse> Justin10ec acpi
[02:43] <Justin10ec> RHorse: ?
[02:43] <JaredK> do you know how to get in the bios?
[02:43] <eseven73> Justin10ec, lmsensors or something like that
[02:43] <eseven73> there's some apps, you don't have to use bios
[02:43] <RHorse> acpi -t
[02:43] <JaredK> you should always be able to see the fan speeds and tempurtures in the bios
[02:44] <HikeTech> Anyone know why nautilus stopped remembering window sizes? Every time I resize, the next window I open resets to the default.
[02:44] <JaredK> there are also tools for linux
[02:44] <RHorse> dont be a ninnie
[02:44] <jeremy_> ~_~
[02:44] <JaredK> I think you might be able to find out in command prompt to but I don't remember how :)
[02:44] <DasEi> devindersingh: don't crosspost
[02:44] <eseven73> JaredK, apt-cache search sensor maybe
[02:44]  * JaredK loves linux!
[02:45]  * RHorse doesn't care
[02:45] <hobophobe> Or is there a channel specific to netbook remix that I can ask?
[02:45] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:asoundconf list       >output ?
[02:45] <Justin10ec> RHorse: It doesn't seem hot now, right now I'm getting:      Battery 0: Full, 100%
[02:45] <Justin10ec>      Thermal 0: ok, 41.0 degrees C
[02:45] <Justin10ec>  . What temperature should I start getting worried at?
[02:45] <jeremy_> ...
[02:45] <sevodnya> homskillet: also try "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" where wlan0 is the name of your wireless card as reported by iwconfig/ifconfig
[02:46] <Justin10ec> jeremy_ What do you need help with?
[02:46] <joeDeuce> I think 41 is fine Justin10ec
[02:46] <homeskillet> sevodnya that says 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device'
[02:46] <jeremy_> my computer keeps restarting
[02:46] <rahduke> hi, im trying to boot to a ubuntu 9.04 live CD and it keeps hanging and dropping me into busybox
[02:46] <bc> is there an easy way to turn the network manager applet in the gnome panel notification area on and off easily? i can run nm-applet --dm-disable, but there is no manpage and I have no idea if there is a 'turn back on' option. :)
[02:46] <Justin10ec> joeDeuce: It's not hot right now, next time it gets reallyhot I'll check the temperature.
[02:46] <RHorse> Justin10ec mine's 43 which is about the temp of las vegas. It's fine
[02:46] <rahduke> can someone help me out"?
[02:46] <osiris> anyone else having problems accessing samba shares from jaunty
[02:46] <eseven73> Justin10ec, that's nothing mines 54 C most of the time, but of course my lappy is 5 years old too
[02:46] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: i am running ubuntu 8.10
[02:46] <joeDeuce> Justin10ec: oh ok :)
[02:47] <Justin10ec> jeremy_ What about ubuntu 8.10?
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: when it restarts, i get an error message that pops up "drivers not found"
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: it keeps restarting over and over again at random times
[02:47] <RHorse> Justin10ec get a lap cooler
[02:47] <Justin10ec> jeremy_ I'll try to find something real quick.
[02:47] <joeDeuce> !reiserfs | joeDeuce
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: i have no clue whether its hardware or software related >.<
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: i have all the drivers for this machine
[02:47] <eseven73> joeDeuce, you can /msg ubottu reiserfs :)
[02:48] <rahduke> hi, im trying to boot to a ubuntu 9.04 live CD and it keeps hanging and dropping me into busybox... anyone else have that problem?
[02:48] <RHorse> Justin10ec get a dock app that tells you temp cont check out dockapps.org
[02:48] <joeDeuce> eseven73: thanks, just figured it out ;)
[02:48] <RHorse> or dockapp.org
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rahduke what option on boot have you tried  F4 F6
[02:48] <losher> jeremy_: commonest cause of restarts is bad hardware: memory or power supply. It's almost never a software issue on linux, especially 8.10 which is quite mature
[02:48] <furballbeethoven> Anyone here an expert on wireless networking on ubuntu 9?
[02:48] <rahduke> no
[02:48] <RHorse> yes, power fupply big problem
[02:49] <RHorse> computers very fussy about power
[02:49] <jeremy_> losher: i have 512MB of RAM
[02:49] <Justin10ec> Is there a way to make an output of a sh script show in a box? It's just going to return text.
[02:49] <rahduke> Jack_Sparrow: could this be happening cuz my DVD drive is faulty
[02:49] <eseven73> joeDeuce, I don't think reiser fs is being updated anymore is it? Since the creator is in prison now...or did someone else take over the project?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rahduke That did not answer my question..
[02:49] <losher> jeremy_: you could run memtest overnight just to check, but my guess is failing power supply....
[02:49] <jeremy_> losher: i know my PCU fan is making weird noises
[02:50] <furballbeethoven> As far as I can tell, my problem is that the Vaio smart network program that runs while I'm in Vista isn't running while I'm in Ubuntu. This makes sense, or it would, if the wireless hadn't been working not 6 hours ago >.< Anyone know what's wrong? Let me know if you need more info or specs.
[02:50] <joeDeuce> eseven73: lmao... I didn't know that
[02:50] <rahduke> Jack_Sparrow: i did not try F4 and F6
[02:50] <rahduke> I awnsered u musta missd it
[02:50] <jeremy_> losher: i just changed out the power supply a few minutes ago actually, to see if that works
[02:50] <RHorse> is there an #ubuntu-drugs channel?
[02:50] <losher> jeremy_: then replace your cpu fan too. overheating can cause restarts
[02:50] <jeremy_> losher: it could be a failing power supply i guess
[02:50] <joeDeuce> I've been on it for a week now, with no data loss (that I'm aware of)
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> rahduke F6 and set noapci apic=off and F4 safe graphics, then enter
[02:51] <eseven73> joeDeuce, yeah lol it's on wikipedia somewhere, just search for reiser file system , it's a nice file system though, no complaints
[02:51] <jeremy_> losher: luckily for me, i can get my hands on a CPU fan w/ the heat sync
[02:51] <rahduke> ill try
[02:51] <rahduke> thanks jack
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:51] <mattyb> anyone successfully set up ICS recently?
[02:51] <mattyb> i've tried a bunch of things now, to no avail.
[02:51] <losher> jeremy_: it costs nothing to run memtest, and monitor your cpu temps. Next cheapest is a new fan.   I installed emerald, and apt suggested I install emerald-themes, which doesn't exist.
[02:51]  * joeDeuce goes to wikipedia... where he can get lost for hours reading and reading
[02:52] <joeDeuce> thanks eseven73
[02:52] <lstarnes> mattyb: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing ?
[02:52] <eseven73> ;D
[02:52] <jeremy_> losher: i should see how good the contact the processor and the heat sync are making just in case i might need to give a little coat of thermal paste
[02:52] <jasonmchristos> please HELP gtwitter connection failed
[02:52] <mattyb> lstarnes: yep.
[02:52] <furballbeethoven> My problem is that the Vaio smart network program that runs while I'm in Vista isn't running while I'm in Ubuntu. This makes sense, or it would, if the wireless had been working not 6 hours ago >.< Anyone know what's wrong? Let me know if you need more info or specs.
[02:52] <mattyb> lstarnes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159606
[02:52] <jeremy_> losher: im in computer repair. i can get one easily. we've been tearing these old IBM netvistas apart for parts.
[02:52] <skellington> hey guys, ubuntu noob here. i was wondering if there was an application for a transparent command line
[02:52] <losher> jeremy_: monitor your cpu temps should tell you if you even need to bother...
[02:53] <taylor_> I asked a question about b44 a few seconds ago, and then lost my connection. How do I check to see if I got an answer?
[02:53] <jeremy_> losher: true..is there a way i can monitor this without having to go through BIOS?
[02:53] <chargersfan420> skellington:  you mean the window transparent?
[02:53] <roncay> sdklhkfskfs
[02:53] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:I think gotta dissappoint you, can't find it at alsa and also hp m-audio doesn't support linux, just mac and win
[02:53] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:asoundconf list       >output ? is it found ?
[02:53] <furballbeethoven> taylor_: i think you can check the logs, i think it's like irclogs.ubuntu.com or something
[02:53] <DasEi> !ics > devindersingh:
[02:53] <skellington> yes, or maybe even translucent. im on a netbook and i'd like to see behind my window and be able to type in the command line
[02:53] <furballbeethoven> someone yell if i'm wrong
[02:54] <mihira> Anyone can help me with auto-pairing Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse under Ubuntu 8.10? pvt
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !logs
[02:54] <jeremy_> losher: i probably do need to replace the heat sync fan combo. the fan is making a strange noise. i thought it just wasn't seated right. i reseated the heat sync and i have no such luck >.<
[02:54] <losher> jeremy_: there are software packages e,g. lmsensors. Can be mobo dependent though but worth trying...
[02:54] <chuck_> anyone get sound out of hdmi audio with current ati proprietary fglrx driver in ubuntu 9.4, sound  works with the xorg-radeonhd driver
[02:54] <jeremy_> losher: ill try lmsensors
[02:55] <th0r> skellington, Eterm can do transparent
[02:55] <losher> jeremy_: no reason you can't do both...
[02:55] <chargersfan420> skellington:  in terminal, go to "Edit - Profile Preferences", click on the "Background" tab, then click "Transparent Background".  Then play with the slider because you don't want it all the way
[02:55] <th0r> skellington, I think Aterm can too
[02:55] <RHorse> if you pm me i will take it as a personal compliment
[02:55] <ldiamond> I need to mount a drive at boot. /etc/fstab doesnt work (I load the drivers in /etc/rc.local), how can I do that?
[02:56] <RHorse> i dunno
[02:56] <chargersfan420> skellington:  if you only have 2-D graphics support, it will be "fake" transparency - if there's a window under it, it will still only show you the background picture.  You must have 3-D for true transparency
[02:56] <sevodnya> ldiamond: couldn't you issue a mount command in rc.local after loading the drivers?
[02:56] <jeremy_> losher: right. ill pick up a heat sync tomorrow from class and try that. i will use your advice and install lmsensors right now though. it has to be replaced either way though
[02:56] <skellington> that slider thing worked but there doesnt seem to be a window behind my command line.
[02:57] <skellington> i have 3d graphics support. im pretty sure.
[02:57] <ldiamond> sevodnya, I tried that, it didnt seem to work... I dont know why (the same command works when used manually)
[02:57] <losher> jeremy_: best of luck...
[02:57] <chargersfan420> skellington: if you've got an ATI chip like i do, you have to enable the proprietary graphics driver - you get the free one by default
[02:57] <sevodnya> ldiamond: did it leave an error message in the log?
[02:58] <jeremy_> losher: thank you for your help. you've done quite a bit ^-^
[02:58] <skellington> is there an ati chip in an eee pc?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !eee
[02:58] <ldiamond> sevodnya, I dont know where to look for one.
[02:58] <a-stray-cat`> hey, is there a way i can get the old ctrl+alt+backspace to reset X back?
[02:59] <lstarnes> !dontzap | a-stray-cat`
[02:59] <chargersfan420> skellington - looks like the bot knows (ubottu), but i don't
[02:59] <byte^> What exactly is the Swap partition for? I understand it is a sort of virtual memory, but when is it used? My swap is at a perpetual zero.
[02:59] <sevodnya> homeskillet: I'm not sure what to tell you, I've looked around and it doesn't look like you're the only one having trouble with this, hopefully someone else can help
[02:59] <a-stray-cat`> thankeh
[02:59] <skellington> it appears to be telling me how to install ubuntu. but i already have.
[02:59] <skellington> im just trying to fine tune it
[02:59] <chargersfan420> skellington - try this - go to "System - Administration - Hardware Drivers"
[02:59] <lstarnes> byte^: usually is is only used when ram needs to be freed up
[03:00] <chargersfan420> anything show up there?
[03:00] <byte^> Hmm, okay, thanks.
[03:00] <skellington> no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[03:01] <chargersfan420> does it say any are available?
[03:01] <skellington> for my wifi card
[03:01] <chargersfan420> nothing about graphics?
[03:01] <skellington> not a one
[03:02] <skellington> but i really think i have that ati card thing someone mentioned
[03:02] <Guest60951> Hey guys, how could i directly connet to internet without NetworkManager ? i am using Ubuntu 9.04 installed in virtualbox
[03:02] <chargersfan420> Well, without knowing much about an EEE pc, i'd just give you the usual answer - you need to find out what kind of graphics card you got, and then find the driver
[03:02] <hobophobe> ubottu, how about installing to eee pc from live boot?
[03:02] <hobophobe> oh
[03:02] <hobophobe> dang
[03:03] <skellington> ill search it and report back
[03:03] <hobophobe> this is idiotic, it won't tell me which two files are corrupt
[03:03] <hobophobe> and it won't install
[03:03] <chargersfan420> hobophobe:  did you run the disc checker?
[03:03] <hobophobe> yes, it just says "two files corrupt" every time
[03:04] <hobophobe> no error from dd'ing the image to the thumb drive, the md5sum is fine
[03:04] <chargersfan420> oh, well shit dude, throw it out and burn another one.  If you think your download was bunk you can do an MD5sum on it too
[03:04] <hobophobe> it runs live just fine
[03:04] <hobophobe> this is a thumb drive, not a cd/dvd
[03:04] <byte^> Oh good lord why does OpenOffice look so ugly?
[03:04] <RHorse> didn't anytign happen while I was unconscious?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  because it loves you?
[03:05] <chargersfan420> i've had cd's that installed fine but a month later, it didn't set the ext3 just right, and there goes all my shit.  If you suspect the disc might have problems, you should really burn a new disc
[03:05] <wombatunder1> Just for keeping things neat and easy to find. is there a "Program Files" type directory for linux?
[03:05] <sevodnya> ldiamond: nvm that, rc.local doesn't seem to write to a log. You can, though, redirect the STDERR from mount to a file, use "mount [whatever] 2> /etc/logfile" or wherever you want it logged.
[03:05] <byte^> Is this KDE based or something?
[03:05] <byte^> Gah.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  i thought it was gtk based
[03:05] <byte^> Me too.
[03:05] <byte^> But... well it looks really different.
[03:05] <byte^> Extremely large text and white "Windows" background compared to the #! theme
[03:06] <ldiamond> sevodnya, I'll try that, thanks
[03:06] <skellington> its an intel uma integrated graphics card as far as i can tell
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  err... #! may not be runnign the gnome-settings manager stuff.. so its not using the proepr gtk themes
[03:06] <jasonmchristos> what is the standard address book in ubuntu ?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  OOwrite looks fine here on gnome
[03:06] <byte^> I think I know why
[03:07] <byte^> perhaps I need the openoffice.org-common whatever package
[03:07] <RHorse> Are new ubie installs configured for irc.ubuntu.com 6667 in pidgin?
[03:07] <chargersfan420> wombatunder1:  kinda... most of my programs stash their stuff in the home folder, with a . in front to hide it.  In nautilus, you can press ctrl-H to show hidden stuff
[03:07] <wombatunder1> thank you
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> RHorse:  not that ive noticed.
[03:07] <FloridaGuy> firefox is starting up with a blank page...i cant drag and drop the home page...i tried reinstalling firefox
[03:07] <byte^> Well, that's 100 more megs, so it'll be a while till it installs.
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !files > wombatunder1
[03:07] <byte^> A shame, I really hate Abiword.
[03:08] <tonytraductor> drag and drop the home page?
[03:08] <RHorse> Dr_Willis what's the irc app?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> FloridaGuy:  remove/reinstlling is windows thinking... reset your users firefox/mozilla settings perhaps...
[03:08] <eseven73> !away > bk|away
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> RHorse:  i use irssi normally, or xchat.
[03:08] <byte^> FloridaGuy: Have you tried going to Edit > Preferences file menu and setting the home page manually?
[03:08] <chargersfan420> skellington:  I'd say you got two choices then:  look for a good eee pc thread via google, or head over to intel's website and see if you can find a driver
[03:08] <tonytraductor> irssi is best
[03:08] <wombatunder1> thank you
[03:08] <RHorse> Dr_Willis that may be true, but what comes with new ubie installs do you know?
[03:08] <tonytraductor> although sometimes I use seamonkey irc, since I like seamonkey browser and e-mail, too
[03:08] <FloridaGuy> byte^, yep
[03:08] <frank23> I have 2 directories of files: one contains ####.png and the other ####-sometext.zip where # is a number. How can I batch rename ####.png to ####-sometext.png  ? I checked out krename but doesn't seem to able to pick names from the second list of files.
[03:09] <hobophobe> I really don't want to buy another usb drive just to install when it is booting to the live environment fine... is there no way to install over network from that environment?
[03:09] <byte^> Hmm.
[03:09] <tonytraductor> but at the moment, I am using lynx browser, irrsi irc, and mutt mail
[03:09] <skellington> yeah im not very sure its an intel anymore. this should be better documented.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> RHorse:  no idea. first thing i do is run a script that installs xchat, irssi, and a dozen + other things
[03:09] <grkblood13> did efnet jsut crash?
[03:09] <byte^> grkblood13: that would be surprising
[03:09] <RHorse> Ach! You're a good boy!!!
[03:09] <byte^> Let me check.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> grkblood13:  err.. how would we know? :)
[03:09] <[t0rc]> idk we're on freenode... grkblood13
[03:09] <grkblood13> well, some people are on multiple servers
[03:09] <grkblood13> like myself
[03:10] <byte^> Working fine for me.
[03:10] <chargersfan420> wombatunder1:  if you haven't already, it's a real good idea to install your home directory to its own partition too!
[03:10] <grkblood13> something jsut happened over on efnet
[03:10] <RHorse> Dr_Willis I run my own sw, but nevermind
[03:10] <byte^> New irc install, I don't have efnet as a server to auto-connect at startup :P
[03:10] <byte^> irc client install, rather.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  and thats proberly a good thing. :P
[03:10] <byte^> :P
[03:10]  * byte^ is ops in 8 channels on Efnet
[03:11] <byte^> Probably too much, actually
[03:11] <eseven73> !ot
[03:11] <skellington> ugh, no luck. should i try eterm or aterm?
[03:11] <KyoLee> morning, everybody. i have a problem when  i use the tor and IRC ,     Banned:  Tor freenode is hidden-service-only (mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion) - see freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml.  how  can i do
[03:11] <grkblood13> the fullest room on efnet right now if 35 people :/
[03:11]  * byte^ uses Terminator.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Terminator has became a MUST have on my list of apps.. :)
[03:12] <chuck_> !ot|grkblood13
[03:12] <eseven73> grkblood13, that is not on topic for this channel though
[03:12] <Pici> KyoLee: ask in #freenode
[03:12] <hobophobe> I'm gonna try the debian way, it's only 16MB, thanks for the help guys
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Glad to see terminator added to the 9.04 repos.
[03:13] <KyoLee> Pici:  Thanks a lot !
[03:13] <chargersfan420> hobophobe - maybe... i'm not really sure.  I've just had some experiences with poorly burned discs
[03:13] <guest912> a friend of mine gave me a flash drive that had .r1 .r2 and such files how do i take those and make them playable ????
[03:14] <hobophobe> chargersfan420, same here... will be glad when everything is over the network :)
[03:14] <hobophobe> media schmedia
[03:14] <skellington> ill try terminator
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> guest912:  if they are rar archives  You 'unrar' the first one and it should merge/unpack them all
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> !rar | guest912
[03:14] <fornix> my kde system locks down after about 15-20 mins of inactiveness. The monitor led blinks. But nothing happens. I can't make the screen appear back. I need to do a hard reset.
[03:14] <chargersfan420> skellington:  don't know much about them, but i think if the standard terminal is doing fake transparency, they probably all will.  that's why i suspect graphics driver... i could be wrong tho
[03:15] <guest912> Dr_Willis, they are dvd rips
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> guest912:  so unrar them
[03:15] <syntax\> how can i have the icons of open office back.
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> guest912:  hope you got some drive space handy
[03:15] <skellington> i actually agree with you, but its easier for me to try out these other terminals than go on my wild goose chase.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> skellington:  once i learned terminator.. i dont go backto the others. :)
[03:16] <goose> aaaaah highlight
[03:16] <goose> hi skellington <3
[03:16] <chargersfan420> skellington:  fair enough... but it could take another hour... ;)
[03:16] <chode> hi
[03:16] <skellington> its alright, this is actually my first computer that i own
[03:16] <chode> trying to statically set eth1
[03:16] <chode> is /etc/init.d/networking not the file to restart to apply /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:16] <skellington> and hello goose
[03:17] <chargersfan420> fornix:  are you on a laptop?
[03:17] <chode> if so, whats wrong with /etc/network/interfaces http://rafb.net/p/PEGf3120.html ?
[03:17] <osiris> is anyone able to access samba shares in jaunty through the file browser ?  It never connects to the remote machine, while other machines can connect to the remote share.
[03:17] <skellington> oh i see, i wrote goose.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  i normally enter the full path to the remote server/sharename.. and then it wants teh user/pass  i enter the info, and bookmark the  thing. :) then i got no more problems
[03:17] <fornix> chargersfan420: no. on a desktop. I have pasted my /var/log/messages on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159634
[03:17] <skellington> but yeah, since this is my first owned computer, im gonna play around with it.
[03:17] <skellington> a lot.
[03:18] <osiris> i HAVE done it that way in the past, but this DID work in hardy
[03:18] <Strife89> Okay, I've been freeing up a ton of space in preperation to make a new partiton for Ubuntu, but my free space is badly fragmented. What's a good, free defragger that can get me a nice large block of free space?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  i also seem th notice that installing the full samba package seems to help. (but i always install it anyway, so i may be wrong)
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  theres been some threads on the issue.. ive never managed to figure out why it works and why it dont sometimes
[03:18] <sylr> hi
[03:18] <osiris> again, I CAN do it that way, just not looking to spend the time to do it all by hand
[03:19] <osiris> just pointing out its broke in jaunty i guess
[03:19] <sylr> could anyone tell me what's the difference between a group and a system group ? thanks
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  for some reason - i dont have theissue any more with my machines.. not sure what i did to it...
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  other then installing the full samba package and setting the proper default workgroup in the smb.conf
[03:20] <Strife89> !defragment
[03:20] <chargersfan420> fornix:  thought it might be an acpi issue, but it doesn't look like it.  what happens if you disable screensaver-type stuff?
[03:20] <eseven73> !defrag | Strife89
[03:21] <Strife89> eseven73: I'm trying to defrag free space in preperation to make a partition for Ubuntu.
[03:21] <fornix> chargersfan420: it seems to be some memory related issue. i suspect a memory leak. I have 2 GB of ram. Apparently the mem gets full and the swap too. Havent tried disabling screensaver. will try though
[03:22] <Moonaddicted> ist jeman hier?
[03:22] <sylr> what's the difference between `addgroup <name>` and `addgroup --system <name>` ?
[03:22] <Moonaddicted> You speak german?
[03:22] <eseven73> meh im just really good with the bot commands, doesnt mean I can assist you further :P  just keep asking someone will eventually help you Strife89 ;)
[03:22] <Pici> !de | Moonaddicted
[03:22] <chargersfan420> fornix:  if you disable screensaver and you walk away for a while, just turn off your monitor - it'll save power too.  if you think it's a RAM issue, maybe you should do a memtest.
[03:22] <Strife89> eseven73: Okay, thanks anyway. :)
[03:23] <jcapinc> alright, so I got this super-cool logitech keyboard with all these shortcut buttons, half of which work, which sounds derogatory but to me is actually exciting, but a button that should work is volume up and down.  I went into the keyboard-shortcut configuration tool and mapped volume up and down to the correct keys, but instead of the real volume it changes the "line in" setting!  thats a config issue!  any help?
[03:23] <norrisg1> Who here needs help?
[03:23] <Strife89> I'll ask again in case it was completely missed.
[03:23] <Strife89> Okay, I've been freeing up a ton of space in preperation to make a new partiton for Ubuntu, but my free space is badly fragmented. What's a good, free defragger that can get me a nice large block of free space?
[03:23] <fornix> kernel: [ 6796.937516] Free swap  = 0kB
[03:23] <fornix> May 14 12:11:28 nanosoft kernel: [ 6796.937517] Total swap = 931728kB
[03:23] <fornix> this is why i think my mem is full
[03:23] <skellington> yeah. terminator doesnt have real transparency, even after i checked real transparency. im going to stick with my boring opaque terminal
[03:24] <norrisg1> Who needs help
[03:24] <jcapinc> Strife89, you dont need defrag, ubuntu does that automatically, not to mention the reformatting ubuntu will do will wipe out extant fragmentation
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> skellington:  err.. i think you have to then tellit to BECOME transparent afterwards...
[03:24] <jcapinc> norrisg1, I do!
[03:24] <norrisg1> ok
[03:24] <skellington> i did that too
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> skellington:  and with compuiz you can make anything transpraent. (i find the feature useless)
[03:24] <skellington> i saw the false background
[03:24] <Strife89> jcapinc: I don't have an Ubuntu partition yet.
[03:24] <jcapinc> norrisg1, alright, so I got this super-cool logitech keyboard with all these shortcut buttons, half of which work, which sounds derogatory but to me is actually exciting, but a button that should work is volume up and down.  I went into the keyboard-shortcut configuration tool and mapped volume up and down to the correct keys, but instead of the real volume it changes the "line in" setting!  thats a config issue!  any help?
[03:24] <chargersfan420> fornix:  is something eating your memory?  check top in terminal, or use the system monitor
[03:24] <skellington> i would rather not use compiz, im on a netbook
[03:24] <norrisg1> he jcapinc in im
[03:24] <jcapinc> Strife89, yes but when you make the partition it will defrag for you
[03:25] <norrisg1> IM ok jcapinc
[03:25] <Strife89> jcapinc: Ah...
[03:25] <Strife89> jcapinc: Alright, thanks for the info. :)
[03:25] <noumaan> We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users
[03:25] <fornix> chargersfan420: i suspect amarok2. this was running both the times when the problem occurred. other might be pidgin
[03:26] <chode> WHAT DO I HAVE TO TYPE TO MAKE THIS WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:26] <chode> is /etc/init.d/networking not the file to restart to apply /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:26] <JPratt> Bon Soir my Fellow Ubuntu users
[03:26] <fornix> chargersfan420: i will start both the apps and then check top for mem usage
[03:26] <chargersfan420> fornix:  you should check out conky if you've never heard of it.  It's a great way to catch that kind of stuff in the act... err, unless i guess your monitor goes dead when it happens...
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> chode:  i find 'sudo service SERVICCENAME restart' quicker. :)
[03:27] <fornix> chargersfan420: yes it gets dead. ctrl + alt + f1 doesn't work. I get nothing on the monitor
[03:27] <chode> Dr_Willis: well whats the service that restarts my network interface
[03:27] <fornix> chargersfan420: and i get occassional music sound
[03:28] <fornix> from amarok
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> chode:  no idea.. ive never noticed.
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> chode:  ive used 'network restart' befor.. but rarely had to
[03:28] <chargersfan420> fornix:  well, if something is gradually eating up more and more ram, which is usually the way it happens, conky can be useful to see it coming before it becomes too big of a problem (hard reset time)
[03:28] <fornix> !conky
[03:29] <jcapinc> norrisg1, alright, so I got this super-cool logitech keyboard with all these shortcut buttons, half of which work, which sounds derogatory but to me is actually exciting, but a button that should work is volume up and down.  I went into the keyboard-shortcut configuration tool and mapped volume up and down to the correct keys, but instead of the real volume it changes the "line in" setting!  thats a config issue!  any help?
[03:29] <chargersfan420> fornix:  i'll find you a link
[03:29] <losher> chode: /etc/init.d/networking restart should do it. What isn't working?
[03:29] <joeDeuce> chode: 25NetworkManager ..... or is that not what you need
[03:29] <norrisg1> Bye Bye people
[03:30] <fornix> chargersfan420: its in the repos. installing
[03:30] <chargersfan420> fornix:  http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[03:30] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me why I get this error ----> tar: ldap-nss.c:1319: do_init: Assertion `cfg->ldc_uris[__session.ls_current_uri] != ((void *)0)' failed. <--- when I try to run the command ---> tar -zxvf magento-1.2.1.tar.gz <---- on ssh ?
[03:30] <RHorse> did gram parsons  have anything to do with ubuntu?
[03:30] <chargersfan420> fornix:  it takes a little bit of configuring
[03:31] <fornix> chargersfan420: i installed it and ran it from terminal
[03:31] <fornix> i got a small black window
[03:31] <fornix> amarok is using 5.63% memory
[03:31] <Enissay> Trying to install ubuntu from th cd and after the loading bar, the screen goes blank and the keyboard lights starts flashing... what's the pb?
[03:31] <chargersfan420> fornix:  if you play with the settings, you can integrate it with your background, and also configure it to show you whatever, however.  check out the screenshots on the link
[03:32] <Xpistos> Can someone help me figure out how to mount the NTFS drive in my ubuntu server to my ubuntu laptop? (Yes NTFS drive in ubuntu server)
[03:32] <mzz> Kingsy101: hmm, the only reason I can think of offhand for tar to touch nss there is to get the uid/gid for the owners of the stuff it is extracting
[03:32] <fornix> chargersfan420: checking out the docs
[03:32] <mzz> Kingsy101: err, but you don't have a "p" in there. hmm.
[03:32] <mzz> Kingsy101: got a debugger? :)
[03:32] <Kingsy101> mzz - not to hand
[03:32] <PauloCesar> hi
[03:33] <Kingsy101> perhaps its becuase its a tar?
[03:33] <syntax\> anyone? somebody told me its related to the theme im using. my problem is Open Office icons disappeared and got replaced with text
[03:33] <mihira> Anyone can help me with auto-pairing Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse under Ubuntu 8.10? pvt
[03:33] <Kingsy101> mzz - would it solve the problem if it was a zip ?
[03:33] <Kingsy101> then use a different command ?
[03:33] <mzz> Kingsy101: well, the only reason I can think of for tar to touch ldap-nss would be something involving mapping uids/gids to names or vice versa.
[03:33] <RHorse> how can you shell out on  bitchx and see output on curr window
[03:33] <chargersfan420> fornix:  i could send you my conf if you want it
[03:33] <Kingsy101> mzz - what would be the command for extracting a zip ?
[03:33] <PauloCesar> somebody found the solution for totme.. "DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated"  ??
[03:33] <mzz> Kingsy101: I don't understand how tar could trigger this unless something was fairly seriously broken system-wide though.
[03:33] <mzz> Kingsy101: unzip blah.zip
[03:33] <fornix> chargersfan420: sure
[03:34] <Kingsy101> ok
[03:34] <Kingsy101> 1 sec
[03:34] <mzz> Enissay: that sounds like the kernel panicing, possibly because of some hardware incompatibility
[03:34] <mzz> Enissay: is your hardware unusual in any way?
[03:35] <mzz> Enissay: also, if the loading bar bit does run successfully you could try the alt installer, which runs in text mode
[03:35] <mzz> Enissay: (even if that one fails it might give you a readable error message)
[03:35] <Kingsy101> mzz - unzipping worked fine ! :)
[03:35] <Kingsy101> I am going to report that error tho
[03:36] <chargersfan420> fornix:  what is your screen resolution?
[03:36] <mzz> Kingsy101: puzzling. I'd expect zip to store owner information differently, if at all, which is somewhat consistent with my theory so far.
[03:36] <awmcclain> What's with python 2.6 on jaunty using "dist-packages" isntead of site packages?
[03:36] <jasonmchristos> what is the standard address book in ubuntu ?
[03:36] <fornix> chargersfan420: 1280x768
[03:36] <mzz> awmcclain: don't get me started
[03:36] <Justin10ec> I was just here about laptop heat problems. I don't know if there's any way to do anything about this but my laptop seems to lose battery power quicker with Ubuntu. Is there a way to work on this?
[03:36] <mzz> Kingsy101: I am pretty sure the problem is not in tar, but in your nss/ldap setup
[03:36] <Salcedian> hey guys...
[03:37] <awmcclain> mzz: ... meaning, you're as puzzled as I or there's an obvious reason why my upgrade broke the server?
[03:37] <chargersfan420> fornix:  a little bit at the bottom might be cut off - but that's an easy fix.  does your chat client support file transfer?
[03:37] <Enissay> mzz: i launched it in safe graphic mode, it works now :)
[03:37] <mzz> awmcclain: debian/ubuntu has/have disagreed with how python's site-packages stuff is laid out for some time now. python-support was bad enough, apparently they have now decided to break innocent setup.py scripts written by people without debian/ubuntu systems in new and interesting ways.
[03:38] <fornix> chargersfan420: i am using quassel irc and cant find any option for file transfer
[03:38] <cabbbage> Lol
[03:38] <cabbbage> o.0
[03:38] <cabbbage> im new
[03:38] <awmcclain> mzz: Wonderful.
[03:38] <awmcclain> mzz: I join you in your grumble grumble then.
[03:38] <mzz> awmcclain: I'm sorry, I'm not on ubuntu either and don't have the details on this one.
[03:38] <chargersfan420> fornix:  oh i see... i'll find another way... one second
[03:39] <mzz> awmcclain: their intentions are probably good, but so far the most obvious effect is that I frequently run into people on debian/ubuntu with mysterious python problems I can't understand without having access to a system with their python
[03:39] <Matt> Hello, Is there anyone here with knowledge on setting up a tv tuner  in ubuntu intrepid?
[03:39] <fornix> chargersfan420: i am noticing amarok memory usage is slowly crawling up. it has become 5.67% from 5.63%
[03:40] <losher> mzz: interesting downside of freeware. Can't ask for your money back if it doesn't work....
[03:40] <awmcclain> mzz: Yup. They changed the default sys.path and totally removed site-packages. Silly.
[03:40] <svensko> how can i fix the large fonts on my acer aspire one with ubuntu? the documentation tells me to modify my xorg.conf but when i try to sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf it is blank, WTF?
[03:41] <chargersfan420> fornix:  copy it from here:  http://pastebin.com/d26c3b5a1
[03:41] <William7> Hi
[03:41] <Matt> hi
[03:41] <chargersfan420> losher: lol
[03:41] <William7> Can someone please tell me why I (seem to) need an internet connection to do an Ubuntu Install when I'm using the CD to begin with?  Just curious.....  what would happen if I didn't have an internet connection plugged in?
[03:42] <Matt> Is there anyone on that is knowledgeable with tv tuners and mythTV?
[03:42] <chuck_> Matt, Tv tuners are pretty much plug and play in ubuntu
[03:42] <th0r> is anyone using the ati video drivers with a radeon x1200 chip? works with the x1200. ATI now has version 9.4, but doesn't list the x1200 on their site.
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> William7: you can install w/o an internet connection, it won';t hurt anything
[03:42] <orange-wedge> matt what kind of tv tuner do you have?
[03:42] <Tyler> svensko: that's because it's using the new Xorg with HAL
[03:42] <mzz> awmcclain: afaik they did patch distutils, so if you just reinstall your stuff it should end up in the location they want it (reinstall being rerun setup.py)
[03:42] <awmcclain> mzz: ug.
[03:42] <crdlb> th0r: it won't work
[03:42] <William7> IndyGunFreak,  so what is it downloading during the install when I have the Internet connection plugged in?  it said it downloaded about 865 files...
[03:43] <wombatunder1> how do I get root permission when I'm using the GUI File Browser in ubuntu 8.04?
[03:43] <Tyler> svensko: did it tell you to set NoDDC?
[03:43] <svensko> Tyler, i'm not sure how to without a xorg to mess around with
[03:43] <svensko> i believe there is another way to do it but it involves xsession?
[03:43] <chargersfan420> th0r - i noticed the website claiming less drivers were supported than the documentation - check the release notes
[03:43] <orange-wedge> william7 i don't think it would be able to install most of the default packages
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> William7: probably just updates, when you get your connection up after install, it will do what it needs to do.
[03:43] <William7> wombatunder1:  I'm just speculating here... but I think you could go to a terminal window and type   "sudo nautilus"   then enter your password...
[03:44] <svensko> i know it's xsession in other distros, not sure what it is in ubuntu, i can just use -dpi 96 and that'll fix it, but i can't seem to find the file i'm referring to
[03:44] <Tyler> svensko: are you using gnome?
[03:44] <William7> ahh ok..
[03:44] <chargersfan420> th0r - less graphics cards, that is
[03:44] <mzz> losher: (a) I just like to rant a little occasionally :P (b) this annoys me mainly because it breaks innocent python packages written by people using a python closer to python.org's
[03:44] <wombatunder1> william7: what is Nautilus?
[03:44] <svensko> Tyler, use XFCE with the minimal CD install
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> wombatunder1: thats the filemanager, and you' actually want to use gksudo.. gksudo nautilus
[03:44] <William7> wombatunder1:  Nautilus is the file browser in Ubuntu
[03:44] <th0r> chargersfan420, unfortunately the release notes (if they are there) are in the .bin file. I don't want to install the drivers and then find I have lost video
[03:45] <Tyler> svensko: In XFCE, you can change the dpi in the appearance settings
[03:45] <mzz> awmcclain: (other stuff getting the path through distutils.sysconfig will work, things with the path hardcoded won't, but that's not as common as you might think. Specifically most autotools-based stuff will end up in the spot they want it too, afaik)
[03:45] <wombatunder1> indygunfreak: what does the GK mean?
[03:45] <fornix> chargersfan420: ur config doesn't work on my computer.
[03:45] <losher> mzz: rant away. Don't mind me...
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo > wombatunder1
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> wombatunder1: that explains it better than i could
[03:45] <mzz> heh
[03:45] <chargersfan420> th0r - i believe the download includes release notes in a pdf, in a compressed file
[03:45] <rww> wombatunder1: gksudo is the privilage elevation program for GTK+ programs.
[03:46] <svensko> ty Tyler, i didn't catch that :)
[03:46] <fornix> chargersfan420: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172717/
[03:46] <mzz> losher: I'm still somewhat expecting to end up ranting while an actual ubuntu python dev/packager is around at some point and getting completely obliterated, if you know what I mean :)
[03:46] <wombatunder1> Thank you Indygunfrea, william7 and rww
[03:46] <chargersfan420> fornix:  uh-oh!  you could try turning background to off... might be an issue if you don't have 3-D support
[03:46] <William7> IndyGunFreak: thanks for correcting my sudo suggesting to  gksudo     just learned something else from you guys.. thanks
[03:46] <wombatunder1> indygunfreak
[03:46] <mzz> losher: (I don't know their names or nicks, so I won't know what I'm doing until I've dug a nice deep hole for myself)
[03:47] <th0r> chargersfan420, just got the driver package off the amd site, it is a run file
[03:47] <JPratt> So when i watch DVD's I get no Audio but When i listen to music I do?
[03:47] <fornix> chargersfan420: did that. still no luck. I'll revert my config and play with it after reading the docs
[03:48] <losher> mzz: the heavy duty devs avoid these groups. Can't say I blame them...
[03:48] <chargersfan420> fornix:  looked at your pastebin.  you can set the background back to yes, but you'll have to remove some ACPI stuff... i'll send you another version
[03:48] <mzz> losher: true (on both)
[03:48] <chargersfan420> th0r:  can you show me the link you got it from?
[03:49] <JPratt> Any ideas on as too why that is?
[03:49] <robj189> i recently added a sound card to my computer and the sound works fine but every time i switch users or boot the computer the sound it turned all the way up, any ideas?
[03:50] <robj189> ubuntu 8.10
[03:50] <chuck_> JPratt,  what player are you using for music and watching dvds
[03:50] <robj189> im using banshee, but even the log in sound it turned all the way up
[03:50] <Puppetmaster_360> Does anyone know if I can partition my HDD while on USB installed BT3 so that I can add BT3 to my HDD and dual boot it with ubuntu
[03:50] <William7> Does anyone know if the new Jaunty 9.04 release supports the old Broadcom wireless  better? or will I still have to use the  cutter program...
[03:51] <th0r> chargersfan420, just a second
[03:51] <JPratt> I used Totem MPlayer and rythmbox for audio and the first two for the DVD
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> William7: no personal experience, but a friend of mine says its better
[03:51] <William7> IndyGunFreak: ok great thank you.
[03:52] <chargersfan420> fornix:  http://pastebin.com/d53b7e741  - it's almost the same, just took out a bit of stuff... if it doesnt work, you could also try deleting the last 4 lines.
[03:52] <awmcclain> mzz: Any idea how to diable 2.6 in jaunty?
[03:52] <JPratt> chuck_, I used Totem MPlayer and rythmbox for audio and the first two for the DVD
[03:52] <Puppetmaster_360> Can I install BT3 to my HDD while on a USB bootup of BT3?
[03:52] <mzz> awmcclain: sorry, no (I suspect that's not even possible)
[03:52] <awmcclain> mzz: Or at least enable 2.5 again?
[03:53] <mcrandello> Hi is there a known issue with flash 10 causing FF to puke and freeze? All latest versions on Jaunty/i386
[03:53] <mzz> awmcclain: I'd actually expect installing 2.5 in parallel to just work, but I'm not sure if they applied the same patch to that
[03:53] <awmcclain> mzz: I have 25 installed already
[03:53] <chuck_> JPratt,  open mplayer without playing anything
[03:53] <mcrandello> I've never seen this thing where the whole window turns grey but still paints it's contents prior to this version
[03:53] <mzz> awmcclain: and its sys.path looks healthy?
[03:53] <th0r> chargersfan420, this is the link that talked about 8.40.4 supporting the 1200.
[03:53] <JPratt> chuck_, K
[03:53] <crdlb> awmcclain: mzz: 2.5 wasn't changed
[03:54] <mzz> ah, thanks
[03:54] <chargersfan420> mcrandello:  did you install the restricted modules package, or just flash?
[03:54] <awmcclain> mzz: Yes.