 I have seen that I can access files in /etc with it, but not in, for instance, /usr/share
[09:05] <abeato> I assume this is related to mount namespaces. This is on classic, not core
[09:06] <abeato> So, system-files would help me access /usr/share from the core snap, but not from the classic rootfs?
[09:06] <abeato> is there a way to have the later?
[09:10] <pedronis> abeato: there is always /var/lib/snapd/hostfs/... which has the actual root filesystem, if you have a clear use case
[09:11] <pedronis> s/actual/actual host/
[09:11] <abeato> pedronis, ah, nice, I did not know that exists, thanks
[09:43] <pstolowski> pedronis: hi, i rebased monitor-mode PR against pool changes
[09:44] <pedronis> pstolowski: thx
[10:04] <pedronis> pstolowski: I will try to look at both later today
[10:05] <pedronis> pstolowski: though I think the point about using different groups and using the sequence-key to label that we discussed yesterday might have been the missing piece?
[10:06] <pstolowski> pedronis: no, i addressed it as well
[10:06] <pedronis> ah, ok, so it's ready for review? except it's a bit big because prereq?
[10:07] <pstolowski> pedronis: yes
[10:07] <pedronis> ok, thank you
[10:25] <pedronis> pstolowski: I approved 9930, thank you, one nitpick wasn't addressed though, it needs 2nd reviews
[10:29] <pstolowski> pedronis: uh, i was sure that was the first comment i addressed yesterday.. will do. thank you!
[10:29] <pedronis> pstolowski: it's a big PR, np
[10:40] <pedronis> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9938 needs 2nd reviews (it's not too too big)
[10:40] <mup> PR #9938: daemon: move single snap querying and ops to api_snaps.go <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9938>
[10:43] <pstolowski> looking
[10:56] <pstolowski> pedronis: i assume dropping of licenseData is in-line with any potential developments re EULAs etc?
[11:02] <pstolowski> any brave warriors here to look at #9930?
[11:02] <mup> PR #9930: asserts: pool changes for validation-sets <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9930>
[11:09] <mup> PR snapd#9956 closed: interfaces/system-observe: Allow reading /proc/zoneinfo <Simple 😃> <Created by alexmurray> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9956>
[11:14] <mup> PR snapd#9950 closed: tests: fix for preseed and dbus tests on 21.04 <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9950>
[11:14] <mup> PR snapd#9953 closed: overlord/snapshotstate: include the last message printed by tar in the error <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9953>
[11:19] <mup> PR snapd#9938 closed: daemon: move single snap querying and ops to api_snaps.go <Created by pedronis> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9938>
[11:19] <mup> PR snapd#9951 closed: tests/regression/lp-1910456: cleanup the /snap symlink when done  <Simple 😃> <Test Robustness> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9951>
[11:25] <mborzecki> mvo: i'll open a followup for 9953 in a bit
[11:25] <mborzecki> sadly bit more changes were required
[11:28] <mvo> mborzecki: thanks! but not super urgent, I think the change from first to last is the big winner here
[11:29] <mborzecki> mvo: actually it's needed, the matcher kept only the first line even after 9953 landed :/
[11:31] <mborzecki> mvo: please take a look at #9957
[11:31] <mup> PR #9957: ovelord/snapshotstate: keep a few of the last line tar prints before failing <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9957>
[11:34] <mup> PR snapd#9957 opened: ovelord/snapshotstate: keep a few of the last line tar prints before failing <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9957>
[11:34] <mvo> mborzecki: oh, "fun"
[11:34] <mvo> mborzecki: thanks for the followup
[11:53] <pstolowski> nice!
[11:54]  * pstolowski lunch
[12:11] <mup> PR snapcraft#3448 opened: storeapi: rename SnapClientIndex to SnapAPI <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3448>
[12:19] <pedronis> mborzecki: I recommented on set-boot-vars, sorry is such a saga
[12:19] <mborzecki> pedronis: iirc no slash boot is implied for recovery
[12:20] <mborzecki> i can make it explicit though
[12:20] <pedronis> ah, I wasn't sure if we would error if they were mixed
[12:21] <mborzecki> actually even more interesting, we have:https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/bootloader/bootloader.go#L68
[12:21] <pedronis> yea, I noticed the same
[12:21] <pedronis> we have also this though:  https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/bootloader/bootloader.go#L77
[12:22] <mborzecki> pedronis: that would be --root-dir on a non uc20 system right? (we try to guess that by checking whethr modeenv exists)
[12:22] <pedronis> mborzecki: yes, --root-dir on non-uc20
[12:23] <pedronis> we might want to give a better error instead of ending up there
[12:23] <pedronis> but not super important
[12:23] <mborzecki> pedronis: yeah, maybe when we do a little refactor to have --recovery for boot-vars too?
[12:24] <pedronis> ok
[12:24] <pedronis> fwiw I wrote #L68
[12:25] <pedronis> but I do remember if was going to be a bit confusing either way
[12:25] <pedronis> *it was going
[12:28] <ogra> hmm, can i somehow find out in a hook if i'm running in --devmode ?
[12:31] <mborzecki> ogra: hmm, cat /etc/shadow ?
[12:32] <mborzecki> maybe not that file in particular, but you get the idea ;)
[12:33] <ogra> yeah, i was looking for something that doesnt necessary produce errors in the journal 🙂 ...
[12:34] <mborzecki> i don't think we expose any information to the snaps on whether it was installed with --devmode, or whether strict isn't supported by the host
[12:34] <pedronis> we don't expose it in any explicit way atm
[12:36] <ogra> i designed pi-fancrontrol for Core ... and it has a check if gpio is connected in teh configure hook ... now apparently more and more people run it on raspbian which has no gpio slots in --devmode ... not really hw i envisioned it to be used but i'D like to at least make it not fail hard in that constellation
[12:36] <mup> PR snapcraft#3449 opened: ci: don't publish snap on push to master <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3449>
[13:29] <mup> PR snapd#9958 opened: tests: disable lxd tests for 21.04 until the lxd images are published for the system <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9958>
[13:36] <mup> PR snapcraft#3449 closed: ci: don't publish snap on push to master <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3449>
[14:34] <mborzecki> cachio: do you recall if at some point the images from https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/appliances/ were tried in gce?
[14:35] <mborzecki> cachio: there's a bunch of images for kvm and openstack, they are the JeOS flavor (translates to 'just enough OS'), which should be pretty minimal
[14:52] <ogra> hmm ... having "snapctl version" would really be handy in some situations
[14:52]  * ogra ponders to file a wishlist bug
[14:54] <cachio> mborzecki, I built the tumbleweed image
[14:54] <cachio> from leap
[14:55] <cachio> didn't try those in gce
[14:57] <ijohnson> hey degville it seems the old link to uc20 doc at https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/releases/uc20 doesn't redirect, could you look into that?
[14:58] <ijohnson> we probably shouldn't use that link going forward much, but it's still in some forum topics for example
[14:58] <ijohnson> seems the new link is https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/uc20/release-notes
[14:59] <degville> ijohnson: good spot - thanks! I'll fix it now.
[14:59] <ijohnson> ah you were in the channel to see the message that made me ask you about this :-D
[14:59] <ijohnson> ETOOMANYCHANNELS
[14:59] <mborzecki> cachio: if you have some spare cycles, could you try and import https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/appliances/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-JeOS.x86_64-OpenStack-Cloud.qcow2 ?
[15:00] <mborzecki> cachio: this should be a vanilla opensuse TW image
[15:01] <cachio> mborzecki, sure
[15:01] <mborzecki> cachio: and it uses cloud-init during boot, so that should be easy hopefully
[15:01] <cachio> I need to update that image to install the gce dependencies and install the give the correct format
[15:03] <mborzecki> cachio: ah, ok, i see there's cloud-netconfig-gce in the repositories, unless you need more packages
[15:04] <pedronis> mborzecki: is 9942 ready for re-review? any other PR?
[15:05] <cachio> mborzecki, all the packages should be in  zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Cloud:Tools/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/Cloud:Tools.repo
[15:05] <mborzecki> pedronis: yes, it's ready
[15:11] <mup> PR snapcraft#3448 closed: storeapi: rename SnapClientIndex to SnapAPI <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3448>
[15:27] <ijohnson> degville: (CC pedronis) the API systems REST doc looks good, thanks for cleaning that up, can you put it on the forum in the REST API doc ?
[15:28] <degville> ijohnson: thanks! I'll do it now.
[15:29] <pedronis> mvo: is 9907 ready for re-review?
[15:32] <ijohnson> thanks degville
[15:32] <ijohnson> pedronis: did you see my comments in the refresh spec doc about --kill to have a hook indicate it wants to refresh anyways even if there are running snaps? I don't see where my comments went in that doc, so I assume you resolved them
[15:33] <pedronis> ijohnson: I update the corresponding open question
[15:33] <ijohnson> ah let me look again then
[15:33] <ijohnson> pedronis: I see it now thanks
[16:05] <mup> PR snapd#9959 opened: o/snapstate: Update validation sets assertions with auto-refresh <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9959>
[16:05] <pstolowski> does anyone have capacity to review #9930?
[16:05] <mup> PR #9930: asserts: pool changes for validation-sets <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9930>
[16:15] <ijohnson> pstolowski: I will add it to my queue for today
[16:15] <ijohnson> probably in my PM though
[16:16] <pstolowski> ijohnson: thank you!
[16:26] <ijohnson> np
[16:47]  * cachio lunch
[17:01] <mvo> pedronis: re 9907> yes, I think so
[17:02] <mvo> pedronis: sorry for the delay, had a gazillion meetings
[17:03] <zyga> hello
[17:03] <zyga> mvo I have three patches for spread
[17:03] <zyga> mvo https://git.ostc-eu.org/OSTC/packaging/spread/-/tree/master/debian/patches
[17:04] <zyga> the 1st one is extremely simple and just removes a hard-coded root directory: https://git.ostc-eu.org/OSTC/packaging/spread/-/blob/master/debian/patches/0001-No-hard-coded-root-home-dir.patch
[17:04] <zyga> the 2nd and 3rd https://git.ostc-eu.org/OSTC/packaging/spread/-/blob/master/debian/patches/0002-Description-Add-support-for-busybox-tar.patch https://git.ostc-eu.org/OSTC/packaging/spread/-/blob/master/debian/patches/0003-Use-gzip-to-compress-artifacts.patch improve support for busybox
[17:05] <zyga> this set allows to use spread with openharmony images
[17:05] <zyga> mvo I'm happy to send them but I worry that there's no progress on merging a patch I've sent well over a month ago: https://github.com/snapcore/spread/pull/112
[17:05] <mup> PR spread#112: Bump base version of go to 1.13 <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/spread/pull/112>
[17:18] <pedronis> mvo: thanks, it's back in my queue
[17:21] <mvo> thanks!
[17:22] <mvo> zyga: let me check
[17:22] <zyga> mvo thanks, those are super tiny
[17:22] <zyga> hey pedronis :)
[17:25] <mvo> zyga: 0001 looks fine, the other two I guess need a bit of thinking, maybe config options about compression or something
[17:25] <zyga> I think xz is not so relevant but I agree that the 2nd patch may be an option somewhere
[17:26] <zyga> I wonder if there are any user of the artifact system currently
[17:26] <zyga> I'm certainly using it now and plan to depend on it
[17:27] <zyga> mvo I can propose all three and we can discuss things in the pull request
[17:42] <mup> PR snapcraft#3450 opened: storeapi: rename SCA to DashboardAPI <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3450>
[17:43] <zyga> hey kenvandine :)
[17:43] <kenvandine> hey zyga
[19:07] <mup> PR snapcraft#3450 closed: storeapi: rename SCA to DashboardAPI <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3450>
[20:51] <mup> PR snapd#9958 closed: tests: disable lxd tests for 21.04 until the lxd images are published for the system <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9958>
[21:25] <bandali> thanks again for your reply amurray :-) i just replied back with some more details
[21:56] <mup> PR snapd#9960 opened: tests: update permission denied message for test-snapd-event on ubuntu 2104 <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9960>
[23:05] <padge> I'm having trouble getting a service to start back up. I was running a Nextcloud snap and the computer froze. Upon reboot, the services are set to "enabled" but they remain "inactive." After trying to start, I see problems in the log. This one stands out:
[23:05] <padge> Feb 24 17:30:09 nextcloud nextcloud.renew-certs[2711]: cannot create file nextcloud.mnt: Is a directory
[23:07] <oerheks> reinstall nextcloud perhaps?
[23:10] <padge> oerheks: Can I do this and maintain my configs and certificates?
[23:10] <padge> (and data)
[23:14] <oerheks> yes, backup the ~/snap folder to be safe, snap remove --purge nextcloud # would wipe your data too
[23:34] <padge> Installing it failed. This time with a message right to the console, "cannot create file nextcloud.mnt: Is a directory"
[23:34] <padge> I went looking for it, and found it in /run/snapd/ns
[23:34] <padge> I can't delete it, even as root, because "Is a directory"
[23:35] <padge> rm -f nextcloud.mnt
[23:35] <padge> Is this the part where I do an fsck?
[23:42] <amurray> bandali: thanks, will follow up via the forum
[23:43] <bandali> thanks to you! sounds good
[23:47] <ijohnson> padge: I'd recommend starting a forum topic about this, most folks are in EU or americas timezone and thus EOD


[02:06] <mamarley> Argh, 358.13 is out but I can't package it for the PPA because only the non-stripped x64 build is available, no 32 or ARM.


Most recent information I can find is at least a year old


[09:54] <fabbione> anybody alive?
[01:38] <Riddell> \sh: when are you going to canada?
[01:46] <\sh> Riddell: 29th
[01:49] <Riddell> 1 week to go then, groovy
[01:49] <Riddell> \sh: I hope you realise this isn't a holiday :)
[01:49] <\sh> well..the week until the 29th will be hard for me...
[01:49] <Riddell> 9:00 starts or you're kicked out
[01:50] <\sh> channel line up from 26th to 27th
[01:50] <\sh> oh no 25th to 26th
[01:50] <Riddell> line up?
[01:50] <\sh> Riddell: we removing and adding some digital tv services
[01:51] <\sh> and changing the position of some services in the transportstreams of our cable network
[01:51] <Riddell> sounds like a significant change, what brings that on?
[01:51] <\sh> and rolling out all our tv services from nrw to hessen
[01:52] <\sh> Riddell: some new groovy tv channels for customers
[01:52] <Riddell> :)
[01:52] <\sh> but it will bring as well some problems...
[01:52] <Riddell> my flatmates got a cable line in the other day, I'm not interested in using it until they supply a DAB signal
[01:53] <\sh> all cable digital boxes have to be rescanned, cause we're changing the NIT and SDT and all customers in hessen will have much more fun, for them, we're changing some QUAM modulations from 64 to 256
[01:54] <\sh> means if they have old cable lines...our technicians have to go to them and update their house cables :(
[01:55] <\sh> Riddell: means...when I'm coming to canada I'm up for work and fun ;)
[01:55] <Riddell> so why change those things if it's such a hassle?
[01:55] <\sh> Riddell: marketing wants it
[01:56] <\sh> Riddell: and our new big boss wants it as well
[01:56] <Riddell> marketing wants now NIT, SDT and QUAM?  I don't know what they mean but they don't sound like marketing things
[01:56] <\sh> Riddell: no marketing wants new tv services for the customers
[01:57] <\sh> Riddell: and new big boss wanted to connect hessen to our network in nrw
[01:57] <\sh> Riddell: in NRW we did those QUAM changes (it's a modulation to have more tv streams in one transportstream9
[01:57] <\sh> earlier this year
[01:57] <Riddell> ahh, more TV channels, marketing would like that
[01:58] <\sh> NIT and SDT (Network Information Table and Service Descriptor Table) have to be changed, when u add, remove, change tv services
[01:59] <\sh> but the QUAM changes are troubling us much more, because the customers in their flats and houses could have problems with the new better higher modulations, when they have old cables
[02:00] <\sh> well...in nrw we fixed all this in 3 monts after the 1st of April...but now in hessen..well...lets see
[02:00] <\sh> months even
[02:02] <\sh> and I should climb out of the bed now..
[02:03] <\sh> bbl...have to do some real life work :( showering, shopping
[02:03] <\sh> bbl
[06:39] <cmvo> Riddell: Hi Jonathan!


[04:52] <mikubuntu> help! trying to get this box ready for a flight in the morning, and after installing lub 13.10 386 i cant get it to detect wireless signal .. any idea what might be wrong
[04:53] <Unit193> What chipset?  (Also, 14.04 is current.)
[04:54] <Unit193> `lspci` should say.  Also, if you have an ethernet cord, you should be able to use Additional Drivers to pull in the driver.
[04:54] <ianorlin> is this the nm-applet not being in panel?
[04:58] <mikubuntu> Unit193: thx lemme try additional drivers
[05:07] <mikubuntu> upgrading to 14.04 and broadcom card now working ... its possible this could fly
[07:04] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:04] <cristian_c> I've purchased a Rii mini i8 bluetooth keyboard
[07:05] <cristian_c> How can i enable the keyboard in lubuntu?
[07:05] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:05] <cristian_c> I've paired it
[07:40] <MrSun> hey, is there a way to remove the panels on lubuntu? fairly new to Linux and wanted to customize with a dock and no panels
[08:23] <Foars> I get an error when trying to run update-manager http://paste.ubuntu.com/7508993/
[11:37] <melodie> hello!
[11:38] <melodie> does someone know about a program (light) to count time when you work on a project?
[11:38] <melodie> under Archlinux I use sgtt, but in Ubuntu I don't know what is available
[11:47] <Foars> Take a look at these melodie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4113/which-time-tracker-application-do-you-recommend
[11:58] <melodie> Foars thanks!
[12:24] <leszek> re
[16:04] <ReggieMan> Software Updater tells me "Failed to download repository information" / "Check your Internet connection."
[16:18] <holstein> ReggieMan: did you?
[16:18] <ReggieMan> Yes.
[16:19] <holstein> ReggieMan: i would close *everything*.. any package management applications.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and report errors..
[16:19] <holstein> !paste
[16:22] <ReggieMan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7510886/
[16:23] <ReggieMan> holstein: &
[16:24] <holstein> ReggieMan: so, no errors, then..
[16:24] <ReggieMan> Mhm.
[16:24] <holstein> ReggieMan: i would run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:41] <ReggieMan> holstein: I didn't see any errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/7510971/
[16:41] <ReggieMan> Software Updater still gives me the same message. Should I restart now that I've done that upgrade?
[16:41] <holstein> !raring
[16:41] <holstein> ReggieMan: raring is EOL
[16:41] <holstein> ReggieMan: you'll want to upgrade to 14.04, trusty
[16:42] <ReggieMan> Hmm. Yeah, this hasn't been upgraded properly in a while. How do I go about getting the current version?
[16:42] <holstein> !install
[16:43] <holstein> !eolupgrade
[16:43] <holstein> i prefer backing up data and fresh install
[16:59] <ReggieMan> Looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades is the sources.list step required? I can't seem to find a Lubunu equivalent of old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[17:00] <ReggieMan> holstein: ^
[17:06] <ReggieMan> Shut off on trying to install clementine via apt-get. Did you say anything holstein?
[17:09] <alku> Hi, I am using Lubuntu 14.04 on Dell E6400. Unable to see wireless connection. On running 'nm-applet' it shows "wireless connections available, please use network menu to connect to internet". However there is no wireless interface on the task panel on right bottom
[17:09] <alku> please see few of queries run on my terminal at http://pastebin.com/9bXfSkGf
[18:18] <js_doode> Hello I am looking to install Firefox 29.0.1 on Lubuntu 14.04 without uninstalling Firefox 28, but I would like to create a start menu shortcut, rather than always starting it from terminal. What are some good sources to learn this? Thanks.
[19:14] <comics_idees> hi guys I use google chrome latest upgrade in lubuntu and google maps play very slow it takes forever to zoom in maps
[19:14] <comics_idees> why google maps are so slow?
[19:15] <comics_idees> is there a problem in chrome version?
[19:22] <comics_idees> anyone faces problem with google chrome ?
[19:23] <comics_idees> I think it is very slow and shows some bugs
[19:37] <js_doode> comics_idees: what's your hardware?
[20:00] <rk[1]> i am in a pickle...
[20:00] <rk[1]> i am using the default x login manager, wtf it is.
[20:00] <rk[1]> i typed the wrong username and it keeps prompting me for a password and stating it is in correct
[20:00] <rk[1]> is there a way to go back to choosing a user?
[20:01] <rk[1]> or any idea what the name of the process is, so i can kill it and re-execute it?
[20:03] <holstein> rk[1]: i would go to tty, and make certain i can login, and i know what my username is.. then, i would just reboot and try again.. not sure what you are looking at, or why you cant just type in a username.. could be you are just frustrated and pressing enter too quickly
[20:04] <rk[1]> holstein: i _really_ don't want to reboot
[20:04] <rk[1]> i am on a live image...
[20:05] <rk[1]> else i would have already done that 15 minutes ago :P
[20:05] <rk[1]> it is a default install so username should be lunbuntu and password empty characters
[20:05] <rk[1]> i am on a tty now, hence how i am able to be on irc
[20:05] <holstein> rk[1]: you'll have a challenging time with that in a live ennvironment
[20:05] <rk[1]> holstein: i am frustrated, but doesn't seem to be the issue.
[20:06] <holstein> not sure what you are trying to accomplish.. you should probably just take a bigger picture with the entire issue
[20:06] <rk[1]> holstein: yeah. i made a mistake picking lunbuntu as a live image, but heh it is what i am stuck with
[20:06] <holstein> rk[1]: i dont know *any* live image that is expecting you to logout like that
[20:06] <rk[1]> so lunbuntu uses some default x login manager.
[20:06] <holstein> rk[1]: you *can* login, and i have many times.. but, its just not intended to be used like that.. hence the frustration
[20:06] <rk[1]> the default window manager is something lame, so i installed i3
[20:06] <holstein> rk[1]: yes.. lubuntu uses a login manager..
[20:07] <rk[1]> i logged out and it brought me to login manager screen
[20:07] <holstein> rk[1]: you wont be able to do that with the live ennvironment like that
[20:07] <rk[1]> i typed something by accident in the username and pressed enter
[20:07] <holstein> rk[1]: i would just install, and do what you like.. customize all you please
[20:07] <rk[1]> and now it just keeps prompting me for password :/
[20:07] <rk[1]> there is no, cancel go back to username selection :/
[20:07] <holstein> rk[1]: so, kill the login manager you are using,a nd use the one the entire live environment is expecting..
[20:08] <rk[1]> holstein: i was thinking that, but i have no idea what the name of the process is for the login manager
[20:08] <rk[1]> sorry i am not used to a login manager, i usually just edit my .xinitrc and startx
[20:08] <holstein> kill them all, and just login and do what you like
[20:09] <rk[1]> also, i would be on my default image of gentoo, but i recently moved and am forced to be using wireless =[ and i didn't set wireless up yet with the drivers and kernel stuffs before i moved :/
[20:09] <holstein> rk[1]: you dont have an installation to do that with.. you should just install, and not be expecting customization like that from a live environment
[20:09] <rk[1]> holstein: i concur. i have been going about this wrong, but it is what i am dealing with
[20:09] <rk[1]> i boot and spend 30-40 minutes setting up my environement
[20:10] <holstein> lightdm is the login manager
[20:10] <rk[1]> so i end up leaving my live image running for weeks at a time.
[20:10] <rk[1]> i really need to fix my wireless issue
[20:10] <holstein> rk[1]: right.. *dont* do that.. just install
[20:10] <holstein> or, just use it "as-is"
[20:11] <holstein> not sure why you are logging out at all, and seeing or caring about a login manager with a live environment...
[20:14] <mikubuntu> took forever doing an upgrade to 14.04, and then when it was finishd my keystrokes wouldn't render any type on chrome , but seem to be working on firefox -- is this a known bug?
[20:14] <rk[1]> holstein: i have been living // booting off a live environment for 6 months :/
[20:14] <rk[1]> also thank you very much
[20:14] <rk[1]> lightdm was the process. i killed and restarted it and it at least brought me to the meh wm
[20:14] <rk[1]> i tried logging out and logging back in and for some reason it won't accept my password. i even changed it but oh well
[20:15] <rk[1]> at least i can run a web browser
[20:15] <rk[1]> also, i'd rather not install. i really don't care much for *buntu
[20:15] <rk[1]> anyhow, thanks for helping!
[20:29] <mikubuntu> took forever doing an upgrade to 14.04, and then when it was finishd my keystrokes wouldn't render any type on chrome , but seem to be working on firefox -- is this a known bug?
[20:43] <holstein> rk[1]: what are you booting from? USB stick?
[20:44] <holstein> rk[1]: im not asking that you do, or if you do "care" for *buntu, but, using the liven environments incorrectly, and not as intended like you are can be a source of frustration that i am attempting to address
[20:54] <mikubuntu> took forever doing an upgrade to 14.04, and then when it was finishd my keystrokes wouldn't render any type on chrome , but seem to be working on firefox -- is this a known bug?
[20:54] <holstein> mikubuntu: ask them
[20:55] <holstein> mikubuntu: first thing i would do is test without my user config for chrome..
[20:55] <mikubuntu> so you don't think its an os problem
[20:55] <holstein> mikubuntu: its not part of the OS, so, no
[20:55] <holstein> mikubuntu: i use chrome in 14.04 without fail
[20:56] <holstein> mikubuntu: the chrome ppa was likely disabled to facilitate your upgrade.. if you havent, purge, and reinstall chrome, and that will likely address any issues
[20:56] <mikubuntu> k, i'll try that
[21:01] <mikubuntu> holstein, bummer, still not working ... was actually chromium i wonder if chrome would have the same issue, i'll try it an see
[21:17] <gomaaz> hi there
[21:34] <wllrt> How do I add an icon to my shortcut on lxde panel?
[22:13] <SaXx> Hey
[22:20] <wllrt> SaXx: Hey
[22:21] <wllrt> Not a whole lot activity on this channel it seems.
[22:22] <SaXx> Yes I agree, first time on this channel and it seems dead
[22:24] <wllrt> clear
[22:25] <wllrt> ^woops
[22:25] <SaXx> Haha
[22:25] <wllrt> SaXx: I'm on tmux and I was clearing the terminal. :)
[22:25] <SaXx> I thought so haha! :)
[22:26] <wllrt> SaXx: Earlier I was having an issue with adding an icon to a shortcut I created in the lxde panel, but it seems resolved, although it is not squared like most lubuntu icons.
[22:28] <SaXx> Ahh I see, i'm doing all my customisation's now, I just switched over to Lubuntu full time after trying all other distros, are you a full time user too?
[22:28] <SaXx> customizations*
[22:28] <wllrt> Technically yes. I've been doing some distro hopping. This is an old machine Thinkpad A30.
[22:29] <wllrt> Prior, I was running Precise Puppy Linux. Wanted to try Slitaz and that seemed like a monumental thing to configure which I wasn't up for. So I resorted to what I know best.
[22:30] <wllrt> SaXx: I'll be right back. I'm going to have dinner.
[22:30] <SaXx> Okay no problem, I'll be here :)
[22:45] <wllrt> SaXx: I'm back.
[22:46] <wllrt> SaXx: What other distros did you try and what hardware?
[22:52] <SaXx> Hey, I've got a stack of distros on disc, I've tried them all, the reason I didn't switch before is because I'm a front end web dev and need tools like photoshop and such and Gimp wasn't enough, I've managed to get photoshop running smooth now though
[22:53] <wllrt> SaXx: Cool. So, wait where are you running Photoshop?
[22:53] <SaXx> I had it running on Xubuntu so I imagine I can get it running on Lubuntu, we'll find out shortly though lol
[22:54] <wllrt> SaXx: With wine?
[22:55] <SaXx> Yeah with Wine and it ran fine for me
[22:55] <Unit193> If you could, please try to keep the chatting in #lubuntu-offtopic and the support questions in here.  This makes it easier for people willing to help filter out questions from normal chatting.
[22:55] <SaXx> Oh sorry!
[22:55] <Unit193> No problem.
[22:56] <wllrt> Unit193: My apologies. Will do.