[06:22] <Lnknpk04> any ideas?
[06:22] <_fred> won't the database be currupted?
[06:23] <marx2k> Ardin: "aptitude search ntfs"
[06:23] <Ardin> marx2k: i'd love to, if i had it installed yet
[06:23] <eck> _fred: it's safe, because you'll install the compiled binary into /usr/local
[06:23] <marx2k> you dont have linux installed?
[06:23] <nickrud> _fred: install it to /usr/local, that's where self-compiled stuff should go. Database is untouched that way
[06:23] <Ardin> i'm working on burning the dvd
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> _fred id suggest just compilng stuff as a user. and putting the new versions in their own home dir.
[06:23] <marx2k> oh ok :)
[06:23] <Ardin> afhjghds AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
[06:23] <Wooderson> how do i get my DSP400 Headset to work with linux?
[06:23] <slimjimflim> _fred you should apt-get remove anything that you want to install from source if it's already on the system
[06:23] <Ardin> marx2k: UBUNTU IS NOT THE ONLY FLAVOR OF LINUX
[06:23] <_fred> nickrud: thanks :)
[06:23] <volantares> !ohmy | volantares
[06:23] <Ardin> right now i'm on slackware.
[06:24] <timsom> hello,it there anyone know how to install the linux from local hard disk ,I use the SCSI
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> !install
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:24] <riotkittie> usr13: because that would involve killing my hotspot & violating the terms of a contract, or spending money on things i dont really want to buy
[06:24] <Lnknpk04> cant read data dvd+r on a inspiron 1000 combo cd/dvd.  any ideas?
[06:24] <MasterShrek> so virtualbox doesnt use kvm?
[06:24] <usr13> riotkittie: You are connected via hotspot?
[06:25] <statictonic> Anyone in here have some experience with copying DVD movies in linux, I've tried k9copy and dvd::rip, but both seem to crash on me when I have it read the dvd, i've tried multiple different movies with it as well...
[06:25] <riotkittie> usr13: yes
[06:25] <marx2k> kvm?
[06:25] <Scoreed> yay 23%
[06:25] <MasterShrek> statictonic, have you ran the programs in a terminal so you can see what happens when they crash?
[06:25] <Wooderson> !dsp400
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsp400 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <timsom> when i install the linux,it says that can,t from the ISO file ,but I have the ISO file in my local hard disk
[06:25] <MasterShrek> marx2k, kernel-based virtual machine
[06:25] <marx2k> Gutsy seems to not play well with VirtualBox just yet
[06:25] <Wooderson> !dsp400 headset driver
[06:25] <statictonic> yep, on k9 libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 3 (VTS_03_0.IFO).
[06:25] <usr13> riotkittie: I thought you said that your internet connection was via cable.
[06:26] <statictonic> gets that for a bunch of different ifos
[06:26] <MasterShrek> marx2k, whys that? it runs fine on mine except i cant get virtualbox-modules package
[06:26] <marx2k> MasterShrek: at every boot it keeps crashing that new panel search applet
[06:26] <usr13> and you have a wireless AP connected to the cable modem.  RIght?  So why not use wired port on the AP?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> marx2k, that strigi thing?
[06:27] <marx2k> um... whatever that little applet is that appears on the top/right on the screen
[06:27] <marx2k> the string input thing, yeah
[06:27] <usr13> riotkittie: When you say "hotspot" you are talking about your Wireless Router,  Right?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> marx2k, gnome or kde? im using kde, doesnt seem to effect anything
[06:27] <marx2k> gnome
[06:27] <extra> marx2k: it's the intel integrated graphics chip, the new one, that comes with the dell 1420 (dellbuntu)
[06:27] <riotkittie> usr13: oh. the question as phrased led me to believe you were asking what type of connection i had, not what method i was using to connect to that connection
[06:28] <riotkittie> usr13: yea
[06:28] <marx2k> extra: Oh! Hm, wouldnt know...
[06:28] <extra> marx2k: crapola
[06:28] <Lnknpk04> cant read data dvd+r on a inspiron 1000 combo cd/dvd.  searched around for known problems w/ the drive and ubuntu but found no info.  Can anyone assist?
[06:28] <usr13> Ok, the wireless router (or as some call it, "wireless AP"), more than likely has ethernet ports, right?
[06:29] <marx2k> MasterShrek: I figured it was just beta release funkiness... I installed it to recompile the kernel on but decided to run Fiesty in VBox for kernel recompiling
[06:29] <alanapost> hi #ubuntu i am having some problems with my laptop's cdrom after feisty issues, wondering if anyone is familiar with related bugs/troubleshooting? ):
[06:29] <marx2k> extra: Shouldnt dell offer support on that? Or Intel?
[06:29] <usr13> riotkittie: Or, ... was the Wireless Router provided by the cable company?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 for a start.. that diive CAN read DVD+r's ?    (dont ask how i wasted 3 hrs one day) :)
[06:29] <marx2k> alanapost:  what kind of bugs?
[06:29] <MasterShrek> ic marx2k, im dont think im going to use vbox anyways, my command line kvm commands run just fine, ive never seen xp run this well lol
[06:29] <usr13> riotkittie: and if it was provided by the cable company, it may only have one ethernet port?
[06:30] <Lnknpk04> lol.  Yes.  Its my wifes and it read them when it ran XP
[06:30] <alanapost> @marx2k: Bug #94119, first reported on 2007-03-20  by  Jaidee CDROM drive no longer working, unable to mount.
[06:30] <coreymanshack> how do I remove everything from sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[06:30] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, ok, checkout madwifi.org
[06:30] <coreymanshack> i want to do a clean install of that
[06:30] <riotkittie> usr13: the router was provided by FON, and it has a single port
[06:30] <MasterShrek> corenominal, sudo apt-get remove
[06:30] <usr13> riotkittie: Oh, I see....
[06:30] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sudo aptitude reinstall <packages>
[06:30] <extra> marx2k: eh, I don't think so.. I thought that was part of the deal, dell won't do software side stuff for ubuntu.. I'll check the site though
[06:30] <marx2k> Master: its between VBox and VMWare Server for me... and I am liking VirtualBox a LOT better... especially since it doesnt seem to be taking up lots of processing running idle modules in the background like VMWare
[06:30] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, that being said.  what do you think?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 Just checking. :)   ive heard that burning the .iso to cd at 1x speed can help. YOu are burning them right? windows can read them? whats on teh disks from windows? a single.iso file? if so =  You are burning them wrong. :)
[06:30] <usr13> riotkittie: "FON" is the cable company?
[06:31] <slimjimflim> usr13, that's the wifi-sharing program
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 you dont want to know the # of times ive seen peopelk drag/drop .iso files to a cd under windows...
[06:31] <Lnknpk04> its data that i burned off of my windows computer (research papers, etc).  Reads fine in windows
[06:31] <riotkittie> no. teh cable company is roadrunner.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 so how are you.. burning the .iso to the cd ?
[06:32] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, newbie to linux, not computers ;-P
[06:32] <marx2k> nickrud: install k3b, hit start... gimmie a drink too :D
[06:32] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, using Nero 7 on the xp machine
[06:32] <MasterShrek> marx2k, thats why i dont use vmware, but qemu using kvm i think is even better, but i dont know for sure if vbox can make use of kvm, if it can, i would probably go to it
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 you dont want to know the   times ive heard that also.. :)
[06:32] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, what's your mount command
[06:32] <nickrud> marx2k: windows, so he could install 7.04.
[06:32] <marx2k> MasterShrek: can QEmu run all sorts of OSes?
[06:32] <coreymanshack> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:33] <Wooderson> how do i create a text file?
[06:33] <coreymanshack> it fails every time
[06:33] <marx2k> nickrud: did you have to explain installation of nero or something?
[06:33] <usr13> riotkittie: Is this what your talking about:  http://www.fon.com/en/info/whatsFon ? (This is the first I've heard of "FON").
[06:33] <coreymanshack> how do i force it to quit that.
[06:33] <MasterShrek> marx2k, omg yea, it can emulate a ppc or a sparc, just about anything
[06:33] <nickrud> coreymanshack: do exactly that in  a terminal
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 ok. :)   check the md5 sum also befor burning.. try the iso in vmware.. perhaps as a test...   try 1x burn speed.. all i can suggest...
[06:33] <riotkittie> usr13: yes
[06:33] <coreymanshack> nickrud it fails every time
[06:33] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, just dragging and dropping the doc files into the data dvd creator in Nero.  No iso
[06:33] <nickrud> marx2k: had him get infrarecorder
[06:33] <marx2k> wtf.. why
[06:33] <MasterShrek> marx2k, but ive heard vbox is built off of qemu, i dont know if thats tru or not, but what ive heard
[06:33] <nickrud> coreymanshack: could you paste the complete error from   sudo dpkg --configure -a   on a pastebin
[06:33] <coreymanshack> ok
[06:33] <nickrud> marx2k: works, gpl
[06:34] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, should be something like `sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom`
[06:34] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, what do you mean by mount command?  What should i try in the terminal
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Night all.
[06:34] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, let me try that
[06:34] <alanapost> anyone: should i try a non-cd reinstall to try and get my cdrom working & mounting? and if so, what's the recommended non-cd install method
[06:34] <marx2k> Ive had few, if any, issues with VBox.. only some basic install lameness... it creates a group that you have to add yourself to
[06:34] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, do `ls /dev` first and find your cd device
[06:35] <usr13> riotkittie: "FON" is software, right?  SO what kind of AP do you have?
[06:35] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, it's probably cdrom or cdrom0
[06:35] <Smartmonkey> I need to increase timeout for 1 ip in my firewall script.. anyone have any advice for me?
[06:35] <Wooderson> How do i get permissions to the folder etc/mod.probe??????
[06:35] <coreymanshack> nickrud, 1 sec i may have fixed it
[06:35] <MasterShrek> marx2k, qemu doesnt have a nice gui to set things up tho, u have to look at a config file and use commands, i make a script but yea
[06:35] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, thats weird.  that worked after it gave me mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[06:35] <Lnknpk04>  as an error
[06:35] <bruenig> um cdrom and cdrom0 if they exist at all are always symlinks
[06:35] <jxxxt> I just tried installing Fiesty the checkdisc was ok but when I got to partition it froze my machine all partition options do the same thing.. freeze the machine any help please??
[06:35] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, why wouldn't it auto mount?
[06:35] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, there you go, now you can access your cdrom
[06:35] <marx2k> MasterShrek: when you make a qemu image, does it option to break it up into xGB chunks or is it one huge image file?
[06:36] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, appreciate it.  any way for me to get that little guy to auto mount in the future
[06:36] <riotkittie> usr13: no. wireless routers would be hardware, i believe.
[06:36] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, it's probably on your desktop, or you can say `ls /media/cdrom`
[06:36] <MasterShrek> marx2k, i dont see any options to do that, never thought of that
[06:36] <riotkittie> and i dont see why my ap matters. no offense, but  it has nothing to do with my original question.
[06:36] <usr13> riotkittie: Then what is the device that is transmitting the wireless signal?
[06:37] <Wooderson> Can someone help me?????
[06:37] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, wasn't showing up on the desktop.  Thats what clued me in.  That and the fact that I couldn't open it up in Computer
[06:37] <coreymanshack> wooderson with what
[06:37] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, why do you want permissions to that?
[06:37] <nickrud> Wooderson: you would use gksudo to get write permissions
[06:37] <slimjimflim> wodderson, don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[06:37] <Wooderson> it says i dont have permissions to folder /etc/mod.probe
[06:37] <nickrud> Wooderson: found a fix for your sound?
[06:37] <MasterShrek> he already did
[06:37] <slimjimflim> wodderson, nm
[06:37] <Wooderson> yes nick i did
[06:37] <marx2k> MasterShrek: I didnt think of it either until I reaized my VBox image is on a Fat32 drive and it's incrementally grown with a 10gig max allowance... so now...what was Fat32's size limit again?
[06:37] <riotkittie> usr13: i'm not sure what it is exactly. a rebranded something or other.
[06:37] <marx2k> (file size limit)
[06:37] <usr13> riotkittie: it just a wireless card in your computer?
[06:38] <MasterShrek> 4gigs marx2k
[06:38] <marx2k> Yeah...
[06:38] <marx2k> so that might be an issue soon
[06:38] <Wooderson> im trying to do this...
[06:38] <MasterShrek> yea probably lol
[06:38] <nickrud> Wooderson: in a terminal, gksudo gedit   will get you write permissions
[06:38] <slimjimflim> wooderson, nm
[06:38] <Wooderson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlantronicsUSBHeadsetControls
[06:38] <MasterShrek> mines ext3 so no worries
[06:38] <marx2k> See, VMWare breaks it up into 2gb chunks so...
[06:38] <riotkittie> i have a usb wifi adapter.
[06:38] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, google:automount
[06:38] <usr13> riotkittie: What exactly is plugged into the cable modem?
[06:38] <marx2k> Master: yeah, I put it on an external drive that's also read by Windows boxes at school so... :)
[06:39] <MasterShrek> yea marx2k but you can make another virtual drive and install programs and stuff on that, kinda ugly but it would work
[06:39] <alanapost> is there at least any utility application that can help me diagnose the problem with my cdrom displaying under device manager but not loading any data
[06:39] <marx2k> MasterShrek: Ill probably just end doing that
[06:39] <coreymanshack> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39231/
[06:39] <MasterShrek> Alan, is it mounting?
[06:39] <riotkittie> usr13: a usb cord leading to the other box, and the wireless router
[06:39] <MasterShrek> alanapost**
[06:39] <timsom> is there somebody can help?thank you
[06:40] <slimjimflim> alanapost, have you tried mount?
[06:40] <jxxxt> I just tried installing Fiesty the checkdisc was ok but when I got to partition it froze my machine all partition options do the same thing.. freeze the machine any help please??
[06:40] <MasterShrek> !ask | timsom
[06:40] <ubotu> timsom: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:40] <alanapost> not sure what specific mount command to use..? i thought if it showed up under my hardware devices it was 'mounted'
[06:40] <Scoreed> what is libsoup2.2-8
[06:40] <MasterShrek> alanapost, try this: sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[06:40] <alanapost> k
[06:40] <coreymanshack> nickrud you there?
[06:40] <Wooderson> ok im confused..
[06:41] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yeah, reading the Readme
[06:41] <coreymanshack> oh ok thx nickrud
[06:41] <usr13> riotkittie: So the wireless router is plugged into the cable modem?  Is that correct?
[06:41] <Wooderson> i want full access to my computer...
[06:41] <Wooderson> how can i become root?
[06:41] <riotkittie> usr13: yes.
[06:41] <marx2k> Scoreed:
[06:41] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, thats not a good idea
[06:41] <marx2k> libsoup2.2-8                                     - an HTTP library implementation in C -- Shared library
[06:41] <MasterShrek> !root | Wooderson
[06:41] <ubotu> Wooderson: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:41] <slimjimflim> wooderson, sudo <some command> is safer than changing users
[06:42] <usr13> riotkittie: What kind of wireless router is it?  Linksys or D-link or Belkin or...?
[06:42] <Wooderson> but it wont let me paste the file in the folder
[06:42] <Wooderson> it says you dont have permissons
[06:42] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, use the terminal and sudo
[06:42] <coreymanshack> sudo nautilus
[06:42] <nickrud> coreymanshack: did you try to delete the /etc/mysql directory by any chance?
[06:42] <MasterShrek> that works too
[06:42] <Wooderson> well i want full access to my own freaking computer
[06:42] <coreymanshack> wooderson sudo nautilus
[06:42] <alanapost> @MasterShrek: after sudo mount /media/cdrom0 (and putting in password) terminal is now hanging
[06:42] <jxxxt> do I need go ask about install probs some place else??
[06:42] <slimjimflim> mastershrek that's funny (ubotu)
[06:42] <coreymanshack> nickrud actually yes.
[06:42] <coreymanshack> nickrud and i think that screwed it
[06:42] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, i promise you will cause yourself more problems lol
[06:42] <riotkittie> usr13: i have no idea. fon bought them from some company and rebranded them
[06:43] <nickrud> Wooderson: you do, but some sections are protected,
[06:43] <nickrud> !sudo > Wooderson read this about getting permissions for system areas
[06:43] <Wooderson> ok corey your the man
[06:43] <riotkittie> but i dont understand why my router is relevant.
[06:43] <timsom> ok ,i have buy a new  SCSI hard pan.I want to install the ubuntu from the local hard pan,but when the install say that it can find the ISO file from the local hard.
[06:43] <MasterShrek> alanapost, is your drive spinning up at all?
[06:43] <Wooderson> thank you corey
[06:43] <alanapost> having access to the whole OS is like having access to your own central nervous system. i mean why bothers
[06:43] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yup. A sec
[06:43] <coreymanshack> your welcome wooderson
[06:43] <usr13> riotkittie: If you plug an ethernet cable into one of the ethernet ports of the Wireless Router, you will be operating independly from the wireless network.
[06:43] <Smartmonkey> I need to increase timeout for 1 ip in my firewall script.. it was written by a vendor whom I do not want to use anymore.. any one?
[06:43] <timsom> but ,when i use the IDE hard ,it can be done
[06:43] <timsom> what is the problem
[06:43] <alanapost> @MasterShrek: yeah, it spins on system restart and spins when a disc is inserted, but the disc never shows up and i can't boot from cd
[06:44] <slimjimflim> alanapost maybe `sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom`
[06:44] <slimjimflim> alanapost or cdrom0
[06:44] <riotkittie> usr13: we've already covered the fact that there is but one port on the router
[06:44] <MasterShrek> alanapost, have you tried with a different disc? to boot off it you probably need to set in your bios
[06:44] <alanapost> ok slimjimflim trying now
[06:44] <bruenig>  /dev/cdrom is a symlink
[06:44] <timsom> is the SISC hard pan's problem
[06:44] <MasterShrek> try cdrom instead of cdrom0
[06:44] <nickrud> coreymanshack: there should be more in the error, about what file failed ( or at least post install or something
[06:44] <timsom> help me
[06:44] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, did you check madwifi.org yet?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> !scsi
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <bruenig> try using the actual device file
[06:44] <alanapost> @MasterShrek BIOS is set to look at HD only after cd, usb, ext, network..
[06:44] <bruenig> instead of these stabs at symlinks
[06:45] <usr13> riotkittie: Oh, so the Wireless Router has only one ehternet port, the WAN port, (and has no LAN ports)?
[06:45] <delwi01> dear all pls help us, how to share printer in system linux..??
[06:45] <MasterShrek> alanapost, what are you trying to boot? ubuntu?
[06:45] <coreymanshack> nickrud one time it said mysql and mysql-5 or something, all the rest of the times it just stalls
[06:45] <coreymanshack> ill try again
[06:45] <nickrud> coreymanshack: and you have to ctrl-c to quit?
[06:46] <coreymanshack> no i press the big x a bunch of times
[06:46] <slimjimflim> delwi01, samba
[06:46] <timsom> is a new .i have know little about it,the people who sell me the computer say that to me
[06:46] <alanapost> @MasterShrek i am on my xubuntu install but i have lost cdrom
[06:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud i'm going to wait on it...
[06:46] <timsom> MasterShrek:do you install you linux from the local hard pan
[06:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud i swear it sits there forever:D
[06:46] <alanapost> all of these mount cdrom commands are just hanging in terminal
[06:46] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I believe you
[06:47] <slimjimflim> alanapost, type `ls /dev`
[06:47] <MasterShrek> no timsom, whats a local hard pan?
[06:47] <delwi01> ok, i'll try.. thanks
[06:47] <slimjimflim> alanapost, type `ls /dev | grep cd`
[06:47] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: no, i did not check madwifi.org, and truth be told, i have no reason to. while i appreciate your help  madwifi doesn't support usb devices and doesnt plan to
[06:47] <usr13> riotkittie: I'm sorry, but most Wireless Routers have LAN ports.  I suppose there a few don't, but I was assuming that you'd overlooked the fact that there was an available Wired port.  BUt there is also the option of sharing the connection with the other PC via internet connection sharing and a corssover cable.
[06:47] <jxxxt> is it possible to install from an iso on my hard drive as the image I burned is not working
[06:47] <coreymanshack> nickrud is there anyway i can force dpkg to forget about this?
[06:48] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, did you check the md5sum?
[06:48] <jxxxt> Mastershrek, yes and it is good
[06:48] <nickrud> coreymanshack: you can do this:  create a directory in your home directory, cd into it, and   dpkg --extract /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0<tab>   .    (don't forget the period)
[06:48] <alanapost> @slimjimflim: cdrom cdrw ptycd ttycd
[06:48] <coreymanshack> nickrud i'll try that
[06:48] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, i dont think theres a way to boot to an iso, in fact im almost positive there isnt
[06:48] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then copy over the /etc/mysql directory to your /etc , and try again
[06:48] <timsom> MasterShrek:that mean install the linux no from the cd-rom ,we can install the linux from the ISO file which is in our hard disk
[06:48] <coreymanshack> k
[06:49] <riotkittie> usr13: that computer's off most of the time, so no, that's not an option.
[06:49] <MasterShrek> timsom, like i just told jxxxt i dont think thats possible
[06:49] <alanapost> install from local iso is like... trying to read a book while it's being printed on
[06:50] <chacha_moon> ANDIKA
[06:50] <usr13> riotkittie: Ok, well, sorry.  I don't ever turn any of mine off, and I have several.
[06:50] <marx2k> you can install from an ubuntu ISO within Windows
[06:50] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, Any isea on how to get an install then it just freezes at the partioner
[06:50] <jxxxt> idea
[06:50] <MasterShrek> alanapost, its more like trying to read a book thats locked in the box with the key
[06:50] <slimjimflim> alanapost type `sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom`
[06:50] <coreymanshack> nickrud what's the copy command again? :D
[06:50] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, 7.04?
[06:50] <nickrud> coreymanshack:    cp
[06:50] <jxxxt> I do not have windows
[06:51] <marx2k> coreymanshack: "cp"
[06:51] <usr13> riotkittie: And I also use an IPcop box
[06:51] <timsom> MasterShrek:oh,you means that there is one way to install the linux , install from CD-ROM?
[06:51] <coreymanshack> w00ps thx
[06:51] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, Yes
[06:51] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, is it ubuntu 7.04?
[06:51] <evilxhwnd> timsom, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows scroll down to "The CD Image approach"
[06:51] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, Yes it is 7.04
[06:51] <MasterShrek> timsom, there are more ways, but generally you need linux already installed to do it
[06:51] <nickrud> coreymanshack: help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal is good reading
[06:51] <marx2k> doesnt ubuntu have a net install option?
[06:51] <alanapost> 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom' command goes nowhere.. still waiting, maybe 30 seconds so far?
[06:51] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, im not really sure, what kind of hard drive is it? ide, sata? etc
[06:51] <bruenig> alanapost, in hopes that this will be somewhat of an education channel, you might be informed that /dev/cdrom is just a symlink, it points to another file and is not actually your device file
[06:52] <usr13> riotkittie: IPcop is pretty cool.
[06:52] <bruenig> slimjimflim doesn't seem to like to impart that bit of knowledge
[06:52] <timsom> MasterShrek:Thank you,the check out the websit
[06:52] <slimjimflim> alanapost type `sudo mkdir /media/cdrom` then retry...to end a process, use ctrl-c
[06:52] <alanapost> well it is 1am i don't know how knowledge-receptive i am physically at this moment
[06:52] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, I think it is a 40 ide on a acer lappie
[06:52] <alanapost> (:
[06:52] <bruenig> well he says /dev/cdrom as if that is an actual thing
[06:52] <usr13> riotkittie: and a very good security feature too.
[06:52] <bruenig> and it can be confusing
[06:53] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, it should work fine, unless theres something wrong with the hard drive...have you tried burning another copy? maybe at a slower speed?
[06:53] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok that's done
[06:53] <alanapost> @slimjimflim mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/cdrom': File exists
[06:53] <nickrud> coreymanshack: so you have the /etc/ copied over?  then sudo aptitude purge mysql-5.0-server
[06:53] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, I can try that but I just that that if the checksum was ok then the thing would work :-((
[06:53] <slimjimflim> alanapost can you test the disk on a different system?
[06:54] <nickrud> coreymanshack: if all goes well, that will remove every trace of mysql server, and you can then reinstall
[06:54] <marx2k> alanapost: : try "ls /media/cdrom"
[06:54] <alanapost> yeah i have tested it on the xp desktop and it's working.. i have tried ubuntu livecd, a dvd, a music cd, and blank cdr
[06:54] <Scoreed> in the setup how long should it take to Select and Install software?
[06:54] <coreymanshack> nickrud it says i need to run dpkg --configure -a again
[06:55] <arooni> how can i make it so that the taskbar (open programs)... only shows programs that are in current virtual desktop (not across all desktops)
[06:55] <marx2k> you might also try the "-t iso9660" flag for the mount command
[06:55] <slimjimflim> alanapost ya, or maybe try `sudo mount /media/cdrom`
[06:55] <nickrud> coreymanshack: try it . I have another idea if that didn't work (and I probably should have done it first, got tunnel vision for a sec)
[06:55] <MasterShrek> arooni, gnome or kde?
[06:55] <coreymanshack> oh ok nickrud
[06:55] <usr13> riotkittie: Edimax 54 Mbps Wireless USB stick uses the RT2571 chipset and is [apparently]  compatable with Linux.
[06:55] <Scoreed> in the setup how long should it take to Select and Install software?
[06:55] <marx2k> SlimeyPete: I think that'd only work if the fstab is set up correctly
[06:55] <alanapost> just got error message via GUI: E: backuppc: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:56] <MasterShrek> arooni, u have to right click the little handle on the taskbar and go to properties
[06:56] <alanapost> oh wait that's just some background package update nm
[06:56] <arooni> thanks master_of_master
[06:56] <arooni> MasterShrek, i mean ;p
[06:56] <coreymanshack> nickrud i think it worked.
[06:56] <timsom> evilxhwnd:I have used this ways to install the linux,but it can't be done in this new hard disk
[06:56] <marx2k> my fstab: /dev/cdrom        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:56] <nickrud> coreymanshack: good.   dpkg -i --force-confmissing automates what we did by hand
[06:57] <coreymanshack> oh i see
[06:57] <timsom> evilxhwnd:it said that can't find your ISO file in local hard drive
[06:57] <marx2k> looks like /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to /media/cdrom0
[06:57] <coreymanshack> nickrud now what do i do to erase all of that cleanly and reinstall?
[06:57] <timsom> evilxhwnd:what is the problem
[06:57] <nickrud> coreymanshack: so many ways to do this, sometimes I do things the hard way. sudo aptitude purge <list of packages>
[06:57] <coreymanshack> nickrud lol :D ok ty
[06:57] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then sudo aptitude install
[06:58] <evilxhwnd> timsom, i never tried installing that way. honestly, i would just stick with the live cd or the alternative cd.
[06:58] <slimjimflim> marx2k, yea, i think she tried those both
[06:58] <coreymanshack> nickrud this removes config files and everything?
[06:59] <arghh2d2> evilxhwnd: alternative meaning the 'text install'?
[06:59] <Wooderson> corey...
[06:59] <coreymanshack> yes wooderson
[06:59] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes.   remove removes everything but what's in /etc (in general) and purge removes the stuff in /etc
[06:59] <evilxhwnd> arghh2d2, yea
[06:59] <Wooderson> i followed everything that thing said and i still can listen to my headphones
[06:59] <alanapost> any 'sudo mount' command i input just hangs in terminal (doesn't freeze but never completes/refreshes prompt)
[06:59] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, I have a amd64 do you think that may be a problem. Maybe I would be better burning a 32 bit iso???
[06:59] <marx2k> oh, so --purge removes all config files for the package in question?!
[06:59] <Cebulinux--> ei guys.. just wanna ask.. wat seems to be the probs y i dont have audio... im dual booting xp and ubuntu.. in xp it works but in ubuntu it wont...
[06:59] <coreymanshack> wooderson i helped you with the file management, not speakers :D
[07:00] <nickrud> it removes all 'conffiles' and nearly always that's the same thing
[07:00] <Wooderson> lol
[07:00] <Wooderson> ok well ill just google it
[07:00] <coreymanshack> ask someone here that question
[07:00] <coreymanshack> wooderson
[07:00] <coreymanshack> cause i never saw it
[07:00] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: maybe you have an onboard or windows operated soundcard?
[07:00] <coreymanshack> and i have a bit of a problem with my speakers too
[07:00] <Wooderson> not speakers headphones :D
[07:01] <coreymanshack> wooderson, do they have speakers in them?
[07:01] <timsom> evilxhwnd:oh,but thank you all the same. I must buy imprinter to do this.there is no shop sell the CD about ubuntu in my country
[07:01] <Cebulinux--> arghh2d2: im using VIA soundcard 5.1
[07:01] <jxxxt> Cebulinux, try right click the speaker icon then volume control then get rid of some little red x s
[07:01] <alanapost> good linux soundcard support site: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[07:01] <Wooderson> technically yes
[07:01] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: first make sure your speakers are plugged in
[07:01] <coreymanshack> lol :P
[07:01] <Cebulinux--> arghh2d2: last night wen i try a live cd it was ok
[07:02] <Wooderson> but i have surround sound 4 speakers, sub + my headset and everyone in my house is sleeping so i wanna listen to my headset lol
[07:02] <evilxhwnd> timsom, you don't have a cd burner?
[07:02] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: weird, i click on the x
[07:02] <coreymanshack> nickrud i tried to install the stuff with sudo apt-get install and i got an error :*(
[07:02] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: weird, i click on the x's and they go away
[07:02] <nickrud> coreymanshack: what's the error? (once you screw up /etc , it gets interesting ;)
[07:03] <riotkittie> usr13:  i know of a number of adapters that are compatible with linux. my own is compatible with linux.
[07:03] <coreymanshack> nickrud, yea my bad :D, i'm new to ubuntu... but i'll pastebin it.
[07:03] <timsom> evilxhwnd: en,i don't but i will buy it right now.
[07:03] <jcnorman> /q
[07:03] <timsom> evilxhwnd: Thank you
[07:03] <nickrud> coreymanshack: heh. Learning by breakage, a well traveled, honorable path
[07:03] <riotkittie> but compatible and functional, or "you can make this work without wanting to shoot yourself in the face" ... rarely go hand in hand
[07:03] <coreymanshack> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39233/
[07:04] <riotkittie> hence my question being for people with personal experience with an adapter
[07:04] <alanapost> when i browse /media via filesystem, i see my external (which is not connected), cdrom(shortcut), and cdrom (no shortcut).. all are 4kb and clicking any of them opens a blank folder
[07:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud i think its pulling the stuff from a cache?
[07:05] <alanapost> i tried menus view-->reload and nothing changes
[07:05] <coreymanshack> resulting in an error
[07:05] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sudo killall mysql && sudo killall mysql_safe and try again
[07:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud k
[07:05] <void> hello, I was wondering if I could switch my repositories on debian over to ubuntu repos then do a dist-upgrade would that install ubuntu?
[07:05] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, are you still at keys?
[07:06] <nickrud> coreymanshack: erm, typo:  first mysql is really mysqld
[07:06] <coreymanshack> kk
[07:06] <eck> alanapost: i think that just means they're unused mount points, 4kb is the size of an empty directory
[07:06] <Scoreed> How long should it take to install UBUNTU (!)
[07:06] <alanapost> eck: usually the points/'folders' don't display unless something's loaded/mounted/connected whatever
[07:06] <arghh2d2> how do i check to see if a drive is mounted?
[07:06] <coreymanshack> nickrud so was the second one.
[07:06] <nickrud> Scoreed: about 45 minutes is a long one
[07:07] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yeah, mysqld_safe
[07:07] <coreymanshack> nickrud now im on to trying to reinstall those packages
[07:07] <P_Kable> when will the final gusty be released ?
[07:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[07:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :)
[07:07] <coreymanshack> nickrud no errors, lets see if it reinstalled the way i wanted it to
[07:07] <riotkittie> P_Kable: sometime in October
[07:07] <Kr0ntab> arghh2d2, from terminal, type "df -h"
[07:07] <nickrud> Scoreed: about 45 minutes; if it hangs on brltty1-x11 , add a half hour
[07:08] <riotkittie> or merely "mount", arghh2d2
[07:08] <P_Kable> ok riotkittie no specific day ?
[07:08] <riotkittie> P_Kable: not to my knowledge
[07:08] <othernick> allright so I'm going to switch my repos to ubuntu repos.
[07:08] <othernick> and see what happens
[07:08] <nickrud> P_Kable: the 18th is scheduled
[07:08] <P_Kable> ok nickrud thx
[07:08] <Scoreed> ok thnx nickrud :-)
[07:08] <nickrud> othernick: from debian ?
[07:08] <othernick> yeah
[07:09] <nickrud> lol, let us know how it goes :)
[07:09] <coreymanshack> nickrud sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:09] <coreymanshack>  * Starting web server (apache2)...                                             apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory
[07:09] <coreymanshack>                                                                          [fail]
[07:09] <othernick> hehe, if possible
[07:09] <alanapost> is there any way for me to force xubuntu to rescan my hardware to see if it will properly recognize the cdrom again
[07:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> P_Kable: Yes, Gutsy is scheduled to be released on 18th of this month!
[07:09] <arghh2d2> ok so if i type mount and see anything with 'ntfs' in it, that means i have a microsoft drive mounted and should be able to browse it?
[07:09] <coreymanshack> nickrud it didn't reinstall it all the way.
[07:10] <coreymanshack> nickrud is there a way to clear the cache so it will re-download it
[07:10] <sensae> Hello
[07:10] <riotkittie> arghh2d2: you may need superuser priv. to browse it, i'm not sure. but yes, if you see ntfs, its' mounted
[07:10] <xoRock> helo, i have local reposition and i use dpkg-scanpackages to create pakage.list, the problem is files are updating frequenly, is there anyway to automaticaly delete .deb file which is older than the new file while dpkg-scanpackages?
[07:11] <sensae> I'm trying to compile alsa-driver, and when I do sudo make I get hardirq.h:12: error: requested alignment is not a constant
[07:11] <arghh2d2> riotkittie: i dont understand alana's question, do you?
[07:11] <bodhizazen> Welcome overdrank :)
[07:12] <nickrud> coreymanshack: do  sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm apache2-mpm-event apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-mpm-worker apache2-utils
[07:12] <riotkittie> alanapost: nothing happens when you put a disc in? have you tried multiple CDs in case the one you tried was faulty?
[07:12] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, have you checked if there is anything weird in dmesg about your cd drive?
[07:12] <alanapost> riotkittie: i've tried cds that are working in other computers in my laptop.. they spin but do not load
[07:12] <Ghetto> Ex-Chat
[07:12] <RainDoctor> I am trying to boot from cd-rom, I am getting pxe-e71 media test failure
[07:13] <RainDoctor> after 50 % of kernel loaded
[07:13] <alanapost> this problem is very recent because xubuntu was reading cds/dvds fine, probably at least 2 days ago
[07:13] <RainDoctor> how to resolve it, gurus?
[07:13] <coreymanshack> nickrud omg before you said that i purged all of the packages i just installed, and it did that mysql thing again
[07:13] <riotkittie> alanapost: evilxhwnd is a genius. have you checked dmesg?
[07:13] <robert98374> How do you install flash in opera?
[07:13] <alanapost> what is dmesg?
[07:13] <evilxhwnd> riotkittie, your making me blush, lol
[07:13] <Scoreed> where do i install the GRUB boot loader to?
[07:14] <alanapost> oh i see your message now
[07:14] <sensae> Does anyone know the nitpicks of compiling alsa?
[07:14] <evilxhwnd> you're*
[07:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: on the MBR
[07:14] <MishaBear> hello
[07:14] <Scoreed> is that /dev/hda?
[07:14] <nickrud> coreymanshack: you need to move just a bit slower, I think.
[07:14] <MishaBear> need a suggestion - I am going to purchase a new notebook, but I would like to make sure the system is compatible with ubuntu before buying it
[07:15] <evyn> most are
[07:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: How many Hard disc's do you have on your pc?
[07:15] <Scoreed> 1
[07:15] <Scoreed> just 1
[07:15] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, open a terminal and type dmesg
[07:15] <alanapost> evilxhwnd: dmesg gives me a lot of information, is there anything specific that should be notable?
[07:15] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, then hit enter
[07:15] <alanapost> i also tried | tail
[07:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: what is the output of sudo fdisk -l ???
[07:15] <alanapost> gosh thanks
[07:15] <coreymanshack> nickrud i tried  dpkg -i --force-confmissing to undo what i did to undo what i did, and it said unknown force/refuse option 'confmissing'
[07:16] <alanapost> without someone mentioning the 'enter' key i would have been hopelessly lost all night
[07:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: does it say something like /dev/hda something?
[07:16] <Scoreed> what do u mean? it is my first time with ubuntu
[07:16] <nickrud> coreymanshack: its actually force-confmiss
[07:16] <robert98374> Anyone hearing me?
[07:16] <riotkittie> alanapost:  opne a term and type dmesg | grep CD
[07:16] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, do you know if /dev/cdrom is your cdrom ? on my laptop, it is /dev/sr0
[07:16] <coreymanshack> nickrud oh ok
[07:16] <nickrud> robert98374: no, but do see some text
[07:16] <alanapost> i went through this abt 20 mins ago, let me scroll and get the info again
[07:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Open terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:17] <robert98374> nickrud sorry its just I was on here earlier and no one responded...
[07:17] <arghh2d2> MishaBear: only notebook i ever owned was a dell pII 366 and ubuntu nailed everything first shot...only had problems getting a belkin wireless pcmcia card running
[07:17] <Scoreed> it is in the alternate install so how do i do that
[07:17] <alanapost> [17179593.572000]  cdrom: open failed.
[07:17] <nickrud> robert98374: I looked back, and I don't know how to install flash in opera :)
[07:18] <robert98374> no worries
[07:18] <GNine> on an unmodified system /dev should be straight forward
[07:18] <robert98374> Anyone else know how to install Flash in opera?
[07:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Are you installing Ubuntu right now?
[07:18] <gUo^> anybody use openwebmail?
[07:18] <Scoreed> yes
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Are you in Live Environment or are you installing thru Alternate Install Disc?
[07:19] <Scoreed> Alternate Install Disc
[07:19] <GNine> there are only 3 types of downloads from macromedia, riotkittie
[07:19] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, what kernel version are you using?
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Hmmm. What is the problem then?
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Install it on MBR
[07:19] <coreymanshack> ok nickrud i cant figure out how to work  dpkg -i --force-confmissing
[07:19] <arghh2d2> alternate should automate the grub process unless he had to back out of it for some reason
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: It is /dev/hda
[07:19] <coreymanshack>  dpkg -i --force-confmiss*
[07:19] <riotkittie> i remember having looked into that at some point, and either finding a solution... orfinding that there wasnt one
[07:20] <coreymanshack> what do i need to confmiss* (btw we are back at square 1)
[07:20] <Scoreed> so what do i put in "/dev/hda"?
[07:20] <riotkittie> i *think* you have to link flash to something.
[07:20] <arghh2d2> did for me anyways
[07:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Yes
[07:20] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-5.0-server<tab>
[07:20] <riotkittie> try searching the opera forums?
[07:20] <scalawag> anyone know a channel where I can get some info on K3B
[07:20] <Scoreed> ok
[07:20] <zatusta> quit
[07:20] <GNine> !flash | robert98374
[07:20] <ubotu> robert98374: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:20] <julian> Hi
[07:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Done?
[07:21] <DerangedDingo> Hey everyone, am I supposed to have multiple instances of gcc installed? I have  gcc-4.1, gcc-4.1-base, gcc-3.3-base, gcc-2.95, and the package 'gcc' all installed. Could someone explain the different versions?
[07:21] <Scoreed> Extracting 'grub-install /dev/hda' falied
[07:21] <Scoreed> This is a fatal error
[07:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Ohhh.
[07:21] <phuzion> hey, I have a question for everyone here
[07:21] <julian> I get the following message when enter sudo -s: "administrator is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." but administrator is my only account, does anyone knows how to save my data?
[07:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> phuzion: There is no one by the name "everyone" here!!! :P
[07:21] <coreymanshack> nickrud it isn't tabing
[07:22] <alanapost> evilxhwnd i can't remember the terminal command to output my kernal version information
[07:22] <GNine> grub installing devices.. sure sounds crazy
[07:22] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, uname -a
[07:22] <nickrud> robert98374: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser down at the bottom it has plugin problem resolution
[07:22] <othernick> julian, easy way use a livecd and burn off your data.
[07:22] <krunk-> julian: boot to single user mode and add administrator to the admin group which should be in /etc/sudoers?
[07:22] <marx2k> got a question regarding bash scriupting, if anyone has any experience with it?
[07:22] <usr13> alanapost: uname -a
[07:22] <robert98374> riotkittie lol tried their getting worked on
[07:22] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: what do i do?
[07:22] <julian> krunk-: what is the single user mode?
[07:22] <phuzion> I have a bunch of new computers coming into my possesion within the next week, varying specs.  is there a way to set up a ghost image or similar that I can just slap onto all of the computers to install the same thing for each, or Ubuntu (server mode) specific on what drivers are installed and such
[07:22] <frostburn> julian, what are you trying to do?
[07:23] <krunk-> julian: it basicaly gives you root access, a livecd would work equally well
[07:23] <julian> ah, okay thanks
[07:23] <GNine> !gcc | DerangedDingo
[07:23] <ubotu> DerangedDingo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:23] <phuzion> gOLdenHaWK3D, haha, tried to /nick everyone, and it's an erroneous nickname
[07:23] <julian> frostburn: i have no idea why i cannot use sudo
[07:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Try /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd
[07:23] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: can i continue with out a boot loader or should i use GRUB or LILO?
[07:23] <xcst> hey there
[07:23] <usr13> julian: kernel designated with "recovery"
[07:23] <alanapost> evilxhwnd 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Sep 24 17:18:25 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:23] <Scoreed> ok
[07:23] <krunk-> julian: boot to livecd, mount the drive, edit /etc/sudoers ensure that the ownership on sudoers is correct, reboot
[07:23] <julian> frostburn: I even do not see the synaptic packet manager
[07:23] <nickrud> coreymanshack: hm.  try this:   sudo aptitude install mysql-5.0-server   (not apt-get)
[07:23] <usr13> julian: kernel designated with "recovery-mode"
[07:23] <xcst> i need help in installing beryl?
[07:23] <arvin2212> hi guys
[07:23] <nickrud> coreymanshack: and if it fails, put up the entire error message
[07:24] <robert98374> nickrud thanks
[07:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Are you trying to dual boot? or something like that? Or do you have Ubuntu-only system?
[07:24] <julian> okay, thanks, I am going to try it
[07:24] <marx2k> ok I will just ask my bash scripting question... if I run a bash script with sudo, does that make every command in the bash script run with root access? Im guessing yes but...
[07:24] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: that failed
[07:24] <phuzion> marx2k,
[07:24] <nickrud> marx2k: yes
[07:24] <arghh2d2> phusion, there is a way to make a spec specific install disk but all your (new/old) computers have to be exactly the same i think.
[07:24] <phuzion> yes, all scripts within are run as root
[07:24] <marx2k> Hmmmmm
[07:24] <marx2k> ok
[07:24] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok that's where it hangs
[07:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Dont worry, you can always install Grub manually
[07:25] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, if you type eject into the terminal and hit enter, what happens?
[07:25] <Scoreed> It is a old HDD (that had windows but was destroyed with virus') i am trying to put ubuntu on it
[07:25] <phuzion> is there a way to automate the install?  like, answer as american english keyboard, dhcp network, erase entire HDD, etc
[07:25] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then try sudo dpkg -r mysql-5.0-server
[07:25] <Scoreed> so i dont need grub or Lilo?
[07:25] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: You definately need it
[07:25] <krunk-> grub > lilo
[07:25] <arghh2d2> definitely
[07:25] <phuzion> yes, <3 grub
[07:26] <coreymanshack> nickrud dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-5.0-server which isn't installed.
[07:26] <rabbitnightmare> grub is better
[07:26] <nickrud> lilo is lovely
[07:26] <othernick> all you really need is a sledgehammer and a credit card.
[07:26] <alanapost> evilxhwnd, nothing happens.. no eject, and also command hangs in terminal and i have to open a new tab
[07:26] <rabbitnightmare> but lilo works every time
[07:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Do you know how to switch terminals?
[07:26] <Scoreed> no
[07:26] <arghh2d2> all you really need is pcp and a handgun
[07:26] <timsom> hello eveyone
[07:26] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, ctrl + c wont give you your terminal back?
[07:26] <Scoreed> me n00b lol
[07:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Press ALT+F1 key
[07:26] <Scoreed> ok
[07:26] <arvin2212> just want to ask u guys.. im having an ati x550 graphic card. Planning to install compiz but when i update my card, i cant run the desktop effects menu...any solutions for that?
[07:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: wait...
[07:27] <alanapost> evilxhwnd, isn't ctrl c 'copy'
[07:27] <rabbitnightmare> lol
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Learn how to switch back!
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> lol
[07:27] <Scoreed> nothing happens
[07:27] <nickrud> coreymanshack: the same exact error you put up earlier?
[07:27] <rabbitnightmare> ctrl alt f1
[07:27] <robert98374> where's a good terminal help?
[07:27] <coreymanshack> nickrud dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-5.0-server which isn't installed.
[07:27] <rabbitnightmare> then alt f7 to switch back
[07:27] <coreymanshack> when i  sudo dpkg -r mysql-5.0-server
[07:27] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sorry, I meant with the install attempt
[07:27] <Scoreed> ok
[07:27] <coreymanshack> oh
[07:27] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, not in the terminal emulator
[07:27] <coreymanshack> haven't tried to install
[07:27] <alanapost> oh
[07:27] <arghh2d2> glad i'm not into linux for the games and graphix
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Try pressing Alt+Ctrl+F2 etc
[07:27] <Scoreed> ok
[07:28] <arghh2d2> what a headache
[07:28] <coreymanshack> nickrud want me to install?
[07:28] <Scoreed> PLease press enter to activate this console
[07:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: good
[07:28] <alanapost> in the emulator i just open another tab because any command relating to the cdrom (mount, eject) does not complete
[07:28] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes. sudo aptitude install mysql-5.0-server
[07:28] <rabbitnightmare> hey we are getting unreal tournament 3
[07:28] <rabbitnightmare> thats a good game
[07:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: See, you got 7 terminals by default
[07:28] <othernick> someone should note that via directx microsoft has a games monopoly and do something
[07:28] <Scoreed> ok
[07:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: you can switch between them using the above given key combinations
[07:28] <nickrud> 'consoles'
[07:28] <Scoreed> ok
[07:28] <timsom> hello,is there anyone who know how to install the civilization call to power in ubuntu
[07:28] <rabbitnightmare> opengl is better than direct x anyhow
[07:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Just press anything like Alt+Ctrl+F1 to F7
[07:29] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, ctrl + c should end that process and give you back control
[07:29] <Scoreed> ok
[07:29] <Scoreed> so now i am in it what do i do?
[07:29] <arghh2d2> othernick, its all up to the game creators i guess, money talks...
[07:29] <coreymanshack> nickrud Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mysql-5.0-server"
[07:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Now what you just need to do is jot down on a piece of paper what I tell you
[07:29] <Scoreed> ok
[07:29] <coreymanshack> nickrud but it still has same error
[07:29] <rabbitnightmare> sudo rm / no jk dont do that
[07:29] <GNine> ha!
[07:29] <alanapost> evilxhwnd: so, in the emulator, i do ctrl + c and it's supposed to stop that command?..
[07:29] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, from that kernel version, you are using xubuntu edgy right?
[07:30] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, yes, that is right
[07:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: when u switch to one of the terminals, type grub to enter grub menu
[07:30] <alanapost> yes
[07:30] <GNine> :-P
[07:30] <Zoiks> what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid?
[07:30] <alanapost> ctrl + c has no effect on the emulator at all
[07:30] <Scoreed> ok
[07:30] <arghh2d2> does apple/macintosh have an equivelant of directx?
[07:30] <alanapost> yes
[07:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: when you are in the grub prompt, you need to type in some commands
[07:30] <rabbitnightmare> what emulator qemu or virtual box ose?
[07:30] <nickrud> coreymanshack: it's late, and I'm typoing madly:  mysql-server-5.0
[07:30] <Scoreed> ok
[07:31] <coreymanshack> oh. lol nickrud
[07:31] <usr13> alanapost: Hold Ctrl key while hitting c
[07:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: First of all you need to find out which hard dsk you need to install grub to
[07:31] <rabbitnightmare> ctrl alt for qemu and right ctrl for cirtual box ose
[07:31] <Scoreed> ok
[07:31] <usr13> (just to clarify.)
[07:31] <usr13> alanapost: and maybe try it several times in quick succession.
[07:31] <GNine> Xfce4 uses some Gconf resources.. it cannot be deleted without crashing the entire GUI
[07:31] <Scoreed> what commands
[07:32] <alanapost> usr13 i am holding ctrl and hitting c, which as far as i know is generally how i copy a line of text, but it is not doing anything in the emulator
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: or a simple way i just found out was just to type in the command grub-install
[07:32] <nickrud> wow. gconf is viral :)
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: you can try it now
[07:32] <Scoreed> ok
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: see
[07:32] <rabbitnightmare> alanapost what emulator are you using
[07:32] <usr13>  alanapost: you are running an emulator?  What process are you trying to stop?
[07:32] <Scoreed> -sh: grub-install: not found
[07:32] <alanapost> are you guys just making crap up like "push the print screen and tap the keys to the tune of yankee doodle dandy to open a new window"
[07:32] <kaushal> hi
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: once you enter one of the terminals, you can come back to the current terminal using Alt+Ctrl+F
[07:33] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, i think someone mentioned this earlier, but stick in a cd, and run the command sudo umount /media/cdrom0 then try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[07:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: now try this command
[07:33] <alanapost> i am using X Terminal Emulator
[07:33] <overclucker> alanapost, ctrl-shift-c
[07:33] <Scoreed> ok
[07:33] <kaushal> I have Dell Vostro 200 with Windows Vista Home Basic Edition
[07:33] <kaushal> I want to install ubuntu 7.04
[07:33] <nickrud> alanapost: ctl-c in the terminal means 'stop the current proccess' , not copy
[07:33] <usr13> alanapost: SO it's just a terminal, (not an emulator).
[07:33] <omegabeta> Anyone know of a utility that goes through music folders and automatically assigns the "album art" covers as the folder icon?
[07:33] <kaushal> How do i install ubuntu 7.04
[07:33] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, if that does not work, then i suggest upgrading to a newer kernel. it might be something with that version.
[07:33] <usr13> alanapost: What process are you trying to stop?
[07:34] <arvin2212> just want to ask u guys.. im having an ati x550 graphic card. Planning to install compiz but when i update my card, i cant run the desktop effects menu...any solutions for that?
[07:34] <alanapost> umount: /media/cdrom: not mounted (same for cdrom0)
[07:34] <kaushal> and what all precautions i should take
[07:34] <alanapost> mount cdrom = terminal hangs
[07:34] <coreymanshack> nickrud you gettin the pm's?
[07:34] <timsom> OP timsom
[07:34] <kaushal> I want to make it multi boot OS
[07:34] <alanapost> er mount /dev/cdrom alghk;a whatever
[07:34] <othernick> genbuntuhat
[07:34] <usr13> alanapost: Oh, in that case, Ctrl + C will probably not work.
[07:34] <riotkittie> kaushal: you'll need to decrease the size of your windows partition to create some free space.
[07:34] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, yea, i would upgrade that kernel
[07:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kaushal: Are you a newbie?
[07:34] <nickrud> coreymanshack: no, you have to be registered with freenode to pm
[07:34] <timsom> OP <timsom>
[07:34] <usr13> alanapost: You will need to kill the mount command.
[07:34] <kaushal> yeah
[07:34] <usr13> alanapost: ps -aux |grep mount
[07:35] <coreymanshack> nickrud, oh
[07:35] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: what do i do now
[07:35] <usr13> alanapost: and then kill the process number, e.g.
[07:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: did it suceed?
[07:35] <Scoreed> i am in colsole F5
[07:35] <usr13> alanapost: kill [pid]
[07:35] <Scoreed> no
[07:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: what is the error?
[07:35] <coreymanshack> nickrud i ran dpkg -r mysql-server-5.0
[07:35] <coreymanshack> and it removed it
[07:35] <usr13> alanapost:  Maybe even:  ps -aux |grep mount |grep cdrom
[07:35] <coreymanshack> because of the typo is why it didnt work initially
[07:35] <nickrud> coreymanshack: good. now do dpkg -r --purge mysql-server-5.0
[07:36] <Scoreed> ~ # grub-install
[07:36] <usr13> alanapost:  But you can also just close the terminal.
[07:36] <Scoreed> -sh: grub-install: not found
[07:36] <Scoreed> ~#
[07:36] <mattva01> hmm a gutsy beta install left me up shit creek , anyone know why grub error 22 would occur when the the partitions are correct?
[07:36] <GNine> memory management is crucial for a healthy OS.
[07:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: can you run grub?
[07:36] <usr13> alanapost: That would be ok, (to just close the terminal window).
[07:36] <Scoreed> how?
[07:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: same way! just type in grub this time
[07:36] <usr13> alanapost: and then just open another.
[07:36] <Scoreed> ok
[07:37] <usr13> alanapost: Are you trying to access the CDROM?
[07:37] <alanapost> i have 4 mount processes running i guess
[07:37] <Scoreed> -sh: grub: not found
[07:37] <alanapost> do i need to bracket the PID
[07:37] <alanapost> when i try to kill it
[07:37] <arghh2d2> ps -aux and then just browse for it the four digit "pid" number?
[07:37] <nickrud> alanapost: sudo killall mount , kill them all at once
[07:37] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: uhh. its strange
[07:37] <usr13> alanapost: You must have tried to mount it 4 times so far.
[07:37] <alanapost> yes that is a reasonable conclusion
[07:37] <coreymanshack> nickrud i ran a sudo dpkg --purge mysql-server-5.0 successfuly
[07:37] <usr13> alanapost: Yes, killall mount should work too
[07:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: What makes you install it manually though! Is the Ubuntu installer not automating it?
[07:38] <coreymanshack> nickrud should i also purge for the other packages?
[07:38] <Zoiks> what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid?
[07:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: I think it must be asking for the hard disc
[07:38] <overclucker> alanapost are you sure it's cdrom, and not hda? mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 ?
[07:38] <GNine> !Xubuntu
[07:38] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:38] <nickrud> coreymanshack: ok, you now have a system clean of mysql.  next, do   aptitude search ^apache  , then aptitude purge    all the ones that have an i (for installed) in the left column
[07:38] <coreymanshack> ok sure thing
[07:39] <Scoreed> the alternate installer comes up with a fatal error when i put in the /dev thing so no it is not automated
[07:39] <alanapost> uh i have no idea why apparently my terminal does not recognize these commands but sudo killall mount didn't do anything, and every time i try to kill [pid]  (without brackets) it says the argument is not correct
[07:39] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then do the same  aptitude search ^mysql  and purge all again. Then, you should be clean
[07:39] <GNine> xubuntu is great for puter with low resources..
[07:39] <asc> kaushal: Well, the general directions will go something like this: Have at east two partitions. Have Vista on one(by shrinking it or reinstalling and making new partitions). Boot from an Ubuntu install CD and install it on the other (make sure you install vista first).
[07:39] <coreymanshack> ok nickrud
[07:39] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, you could reboot, that is easier i suppose
[07:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Does the Installer show you any list of available drives? or something like that?
[07:39] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: it says "Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard-disk"
[07:39] <Scoreed> no
[07:40] <Scoreed> just some exmaples of what to type in
[07:40] <GNine> gnome is a resource hog
[07:40] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Proceed with "Install Grub on Hard disc" thing
[07:40] <arghh2d2> michael eisner interviewe, what a homo
[07:40] <nickrud> flux is good for systems with low resources, xfce is a hybrid
[07:40] <rabbitnightmare> GNine you should try kde if you think gnome hogs resources
[07:40] <usr13> alanapost: kill [pid]   where [pid]  is the process ID number.
[07:40] <alanapost> 'mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom' resulted in 'you must specify the filesystem type'
[07:40] <riotkittie> is gnome is a resource hog, kde is a resource pig farm :P
[07:40] <GNine> i switched to Xubuntu for that very reason
[07:41] <gOLdenHaWK3D> KDE>Gnome>XFCE
[07:41] <usr13> alanapost: and you will need admin priviledges to do it, so the full command would be:  sudo kill ####
[07:41] <riotkittie> i always found ubuntu's implementation of xfce to be slow and painful
[07:41] <overclucker> alana, -t utf,iso9660
[07:41] <GNine> on 2 Gigs proc and 1gig RAM .. xubuntu is invincible
[07:41] <coreymanshack> nickrud dpkg: error processing apache2-mpm-prefork (--purge):
[07:41] <coreymanshack>  dependency problems - not removing
[07:41] <coreymanshack> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:41] <coreymanshack>  apache2-mpm-prefork
[07:41] <PanzerMKZ> riotkittie why?
[07:41] <Scoreed> it says: the device can be specified using GRUB's "(hdn,m) notation or as a device in /dev. Below are some examples
[07:41] <robert98374> what's an easy way to open thunar window as root?
[07:41] <garette> hi all can anyone help me in installing pidgin-libnotify plugin to my pidgin L:D
[07:41] <Scoreed> if i leave it blank it works :-)
[07:41] <evilxhwnd> robert98374, sudo thunar
[07:41] <nickrud> coreymanshack: ok, remove apache2 first
[07:41] <robert98374> evilxhwnd thanks
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: type in hd0
[07:42] <coreymanshack> k
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: did it work?
[07:42] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D Thanks for all of your help i ow have UBUNTU :-)
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: are you sure?
[07:42] <Zoiks> does anyone know what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid?
[07:42] <Scoreed> It finished installation and is now restrting
[07:42] <alanapost> i have 'sudo kill ####' everything that outputs from 'ps -aux |grep mount' and they are still there every time i look
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: wait
[07:42] <Scoreed> ok
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: dont reboot
[07:43] <coreymanshack> nickrud did and it still says things about dependencies
[07:43] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, reboot its simpler
[07:43] <nickrud> coreymanshack: you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed also, right? If so, uninstall that at the same time
[07:43] <Scoreed> it did it automatically
[07:43] <usr13> alanapost: and that is why Ctrl + C would not work, (to kill the mounting process), because it would require admin priviledges.
[07:43] <alanapost> i use sudo
[07:43] <coreymanshack> oh ok nickrud
[07:43] <alanapost> ??
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: write something down. just in case you cant boot, then do the following steps
[07:43] <Scoreed> ok
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: write down these commands
[07:43] <mattva01> hmm a gutsy beta install left me up shit creek , anyone know why grub error 22 would occur when the the partitions are correct?
[07:43] <Scoreed> ok
[07:43] <riotkittie> PanzerMKZ: i don't know. but i noticed a huuuuuge change between xubuntu and zenware's implementation of xfce.
[07:43] <usr13> alanapost: What is your question?
[07:44] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I picked that up with  apt-cache rdepends apache2-mpm-prefork. That shows what could be holding it in place. Useful tool, apt-cache
[07:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: find /boot/grub/stage2
[07:44] <garette> Hello all can some help me in installing libnotify plugin for pidgin :(
[07:44] <alanapost> is using sudo to perform commands not having admin priviledges
[07:44] <rabbitnightmare> ok im so sick to death of permissions for fricken mount points
[07:44] <sontek> Damnn, Ubuntu is one sexy distro
[07:44] <Scoreed> ok
[07:44] <sontek> I want to make sweet love to it
[07:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: This will return something like (hd0,2)
[07:44] <rabbitnightmare> me2
[07:44] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: Error Loading OS
[07:44] <rabbitnightmare> a 3some would be hot
[07:44] <usr13> alanapost: sudo envokes admin priviledges for you
[07:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Told you
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> q is there a way to re enable su?
[07:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: have you rebooted?
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> as sudo for multiple things is really annoying
[07:45] <Scoreed> it did it for me :-(
[07:45] <nickrud> rabbitnightmare: sudo -i , gets you where su would
[07:45] <evilxhwnd> rabbitnightmare, sudo passwd
[07:45] <usr13> rabbitnightmare: then maybe you should activate root.
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> ahh
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> ty
[07:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: now whats the status?
[07:46] <garette> can someone please help me in installing libnotify plugin for pidgin.. I am using Ubuntu Feisty Fawn :D
[07:46] <usr13> rabbitnightmare: sudo passwd root
[07:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Did you get the grub menu?
[07:46] <alanapost> i just wish nerds would stop telling me to do things and then asking me again, prefacing the request with 'sudo', like it is a hilarious joke each time ):
[07:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok done with apache
[07:46] <Scoreed> no
[07:46] <nurettin> hello i have got dns server problem in resolv.conf  i am editing resolv.conf, when i restarted take old value.
[07:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud onto mysql
[07:46] <usr13> alanapost: This is NOT a joke.
[07:46] <sontek> did you guys see that latest microsoft ad about "Linux not being as safe as windows" or something like that, I saw it on digg, Microsoft are a bunch of fucking douchebags
[07:46] <ubunt1> hey what i can use to transfer more than 4 gb
[07:46] <Scoreed> when no CD error loading OS when CD is in i get th install menu
[07:46] <ubunt1> ntfs?
[07:46] <usr13> alanapost: We are only trying to help you.
[07:46] <garette> !libnotify
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libnotify - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <ubunt1> ext3 and why
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | sontek
[07:47] <ubotu> sontek: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:47] <ubunt1> that write that can be moved?
[07:47] <garette> !pidgin-libnotify
[07:47] <alanapost> usr13 i mean for instance "sudo make me a sandwich"
[07:47] <Scoreed> Ubunt1: an 8GB USB drive or LAN
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> sontek: (also, !offtopic)
[07:47] <ubunt1> nono
[07:47] <sontek> sorry :)
[07:47] <nurettin> hello i have got dns server problem in resolv.conf  i am editing resolv.conf, when i restarted take old value.
[07:47] <ubunt1> what system
[07:47] <ubunt1> what system
[07:47] <usr13> alanapost: If you want to learn and understand, ask clear questions and we will try to give you clear answers. (And don't complain about the answers.)
[07:47] <garette> Gnine: ;)
[07:47] <ubunt1> ???
[07:47] <sontek> they just make me angry
[07:48] <nurettin> hello i have got dns server problem in resolv.conf  i am editing resolv.conf, when i restarted take old value.
[07:48] <ubunt1> someone fast
[07:48] <alanapost> i do ask clear questions, but in the format of a busy IRC channel the same questions, answers, and information get repeated a lot without moving forward
[07:48] <alanapost> it is not a good problem-solving format i guess
[07:48] <Flannel>  /lastlog alanapost
[07:48] <overclucker> alanapost: sudo apt-get moo, lighten up
[07:48] <ubunt1> in fat 32 i can transfer more 4 gb
[07:48] <Scoreed> SCOREED is sick of trying and is giving up
[07:48] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, you can reboot the machine. afterwards, i suggest upgrading to feisty which has a newer kernel. cant hurt to try a newer version :)
[07:48] <garette> GNine: how do you install desktop widgets?
[07:48] <GNine> negative, all native stuff
[07:48] <ubunt1> ?
[07:48] <ubunt1> somoene
[07:48] <usr13> alanapost: And a lot of us assume that one would realize that admin privledges are needed and use sudo when they are.
[07:49] <alanapost> is the process for upgrading feisty different than the xubuntu upgrade manager? like, what does that upgrade
[07:49] <garette> GNine: ;)
[07:49] <coreymanshack> nickrud check this out... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39234/
[07:49] <ubunt1> fat32s
[07:49] <GNine> i like keeping my system as streamline as possible
[07:49] <alanapost> usr13, i am afraid i have no idea what you are talking about, because i haven't had any trouble relating to not using sudo
[07:49] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, well, you can upgrade or you can do a clean install. when i said upgrade, i really meant do a clean install.
[07:49] <garette> can someone please help me in installing libnotify plugin for pidgin
[07:49] <Flannel> alanapost: Feisty to gutsy?  You'll have to ask in #ubuntu+1 to be sure,I imagine it's the same, but the flag for dev versions might differ slightly.
[07:50] <nickrud> coreymanshack: use aptitude purge , not dpkg -r. aptitude is much smarter about it
[07:50] <alanapost> usr13, i am curious as to how a clean install might best be accomplished on my system, when i came here in the first place to find out how to fix the issue of my cdrom not functioning as expected
[07:50] <alecw1> Hello! I'm looking for an extremely simple image editing program, that will do REALLY simple things, like cropping. I just need it for taking screenshots, and cropping them and such. I don't want much bloat, GIMP is way too much for my needs. Can someone suggest an app?
[07:50] <Cebulinux--> hi guys.. do u support compiz fusion here.. coz im realy having probs.. i follow the guide from the ubuntu site.. but i cant get my cube working
[07:50] <Flannel> alanapost: OOo Draw?
[07:50] <coreymanshack> o wait i found it nickrud, there was another hidden dependicey
[07:50] <Flannel> alecw1: OOo Draw, maybe.  sorry alanapost
[07:50] <nickrud> coreymanshack: aptitude would have found it for you
[07:51] <coreymanshack> o wow
[07:51] <nickrud> coreymanshack: although, you're learning a lot doing it this way :)
[07:51] <overclucker> alanapost, cat /etc/fstab and find what device mounts on /media/cdrom
[07:51] <alecw1> Flannel, too much bloat. :)
[07:51] <coreymanshack> ok i got apache and mysql completley removed
[07:51] <nickrud> alecw1: gthumb is pretty good for simple cropping and the like
[07:52] <GNine> !compiz | Cebulinux--
[07:52] <ubotu> Cebulinux--: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:52] <alanapost> overclucker: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:52] <coreymanshack> nickrud, i got apache and mysql completley removed i think...
[07:52] <usr13>  alanapost:  A clean install is best done by booting to the Ubuntu CD
[07:52] <alecw1> nickrud: Is that already in gnome?
[07:52] <usr13> alanapost: What is wrong with your CDROM
[07:53] <coreymanshack> alecw1: yes it is
[07:53] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, in that case, try mount /dev/hdb
[07:53] <nickrud> coreymanshack: so, double check.  aptitude search ^mysql      aptitude search ^apache   aptitude search ^libmysql    aptitude search ^libapache
[07:53] <nickrud> alecw1: yes
[07:53] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok
[07:53] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0
[07:53] <usr13> alanapost: ANd what kind of CDROM is it?  e.g. CDROM or CDROM-RW or DVD or DVD/CDROM-RW combo, etc...
[07:53] <alecw1> nickrud, how do you crop images in it? :P
[07:53] <Cebulinux--> GNine:  i did follow there all the instructions but still not getting cube working.. only the switcher and expo works :(
[07:54] <xoRock> helo, i have local reposition and i use dpkg-scanpackages to create pakage.list, the problem is files are updating frequenly, is there anyway to automaticaly delete .deb file which is older than the new file while dpkg-scanpackages?
[07:54] <Flannel> xoRock: apt-get autoclean
[07:54] <alanapost> 'sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0' results in terminal hanging
[07:54] <alanapost> eject is also still hanging
[07:54] <nickrud> alecw1: select an image, and image->crop
[07:54] <riotkittie> brb. booting into gutsy because actually being able to maintain an internet connection makes me feel funny these days. ha. :x
[07:55] <BernieMac> Cebulinux--, try in the #ubuntu-effects forum, you will probably have better luck in there
[07:55] <usr13> alanapost: And have you elemiated the possibility of a hardware issue, (with the CDROM).  e.g. wrong jumper setting or bad data cable, etc.etc.
[07:55] <alecw1> nickrud, are we talking about Eye of GNOME 2.18.1
[07:55] <alecw1> ?
[07:55] <Cebulinux--> tnx BernieMac
[07:55] <nickrud> alecw1: no, gthumb . Older than eog
[07:55] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, sometimes i experience the same thing with my iwl4965 drivers for my wireless card. leading me to conclude it is a kernel related issue.
[07:55] <xoRock> Flannel, hm.. thatsn't what im looking for
[07:55] <xoRock> Flannel, thx anyway
[07:55] <nickrud> alecw1: but up to date, I've been using it for years
[07:56] <coreymanshack> nickrud it's all bye bye
[07:56] <alecw1> nickrud, it actually looks pretty cool! How do I set it as the default image viewer?
[07:56] <turffy> hi where can i find wpa_supplicant.conf in fiesty?
[07:56] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, with the driver for your cd rom drive. that is why i recommended upgrading to a newer kernel.
[07:56] <alanapost> usr13 i haven't, for instance, removed the drive from my laptop and run tests on it, but it was working completely fine until i did some foolishness in vi to try and get my wifi card working, thus messing up xserver, which works now but my cdrom is now MIA
[07:56] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then you're good to go. Reinstall :)
[07:56] <GNine> Cebulinux--, i couldnt get compiz to work on ubuntu either. not for lack of trying. but i did not try too hard either.. blah
[07:56] <coreymanshack> nickrud but i go to my /etc and i still see the apache2 folder
[07:57] <usr13> alanapost: Ok, then, tell us what output you get from command:
[07:57] <alanapost> in HAL my cdrom drive and brand etc are displaying, i thought this might mean the driver is ok, is it not a good indicator?
[07:57] <usr13> dmesg | grep CD
[07:57] <Zoiks> does anyone know what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid? I dont want to boot off it, merely use it as a more secure backup
[07:57] <nickrud> alecw1: you'd right click an image file, select properties at the bottom, and open with in the dialog window. Have to do it for each image type, though
[07:57] <nickrud> coreymanshack: that's why I said to use aptitude purge . It removes those
[07:57] <usr13> alanapost: dmesg | grep CD
[07:57] <alanapost> [17179574.556000]  hdb: PHILIPS CD-RW/DVD-ROM SCB5265, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [17179574.688000]  hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) [17179574.688000]  Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[07:57] <alecw1> nickrud, ok, thanks a lot! :) Is a newer version coming out with gnome 2.20?
[07:58] <coreymanshack> nickrud so aptitude is superior to dpkg
[07:58] <scguy318> coreymanshack: a better front-end, dpkg is the underlying APT tool
[07:58] <usr13> alanapost: Your CDROM is a CD-RW, and it's hdb not hdc
[07:58] <nickrud> alecw1: it's not a 'gnome' app, so it's not released in sync. It's at 2.10.6 right now
[07:58] <coreymanshack> thx scguy318
[07:58] <evilxhwnd> usr13, he tried hdb earlier too
[07:58] <kaushal> I want to use the Live CD with out installing the OS How can i do it
[07:58] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes. apt-get and aptitude manipulate dpkg for you
[07:58] <turffy> may wpa_supplicant is installed but I cant find the .conf
[07:58] <usr13> alanapost: eject /dev/hdb
[07:59] <Ademan_> does anyone know if evolution enforces any sort of maximum recipients?
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud can i delete the folders manually?
[07:59] <alecw1> nickrud, I'm at: gThumb 2.10.2. How do I upgrade?
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: eject /dev/sr0
[07:59] <nickrud> coreymanshack: not recommended.
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok
[07:59] <scguy318> kaushal: boot it up :)
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: DO either of the above commands open the cdrom?
[07:59] <scguy318> kaushal: its not called a LiveCD if it wasn't live ;)
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud should i reinstall even though those folders are still there?
[07:59] <nickrud> coreymanshack: probably not a problem, since you don't have the packages installed, but good practice to use the tools
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: Or sudo /dev/hdb
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: Or sudo eject /dev/hdb
[07:59] <alanapost> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/sr0'
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud i will use aptitude from here on out
[08:00] <kaushal> Thanks
[08:00] <robert98374> for some reason my panel all of the sudden disappeared when I restarted, what can I do to restart it?
[08:00] <phuzion> So, is there any way to automate the install process if I'm going headless on all the machines I'm installing?
[08:00] <usr13> alanapost:sudo eject /dev/hdb
[08:00] <nickrud> coreymanshack: use the instructions I gave you in the first place: aptitude purge each of the packages you used dpkg -r on
[08:00] <phuzion> dhcp, erase entire HDD, american english keyboard, etc
[08:00] <riotkittie> yay.
[08:00] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, sr0 would be if you had cdrom drive using SCSI
[08:00] <alanapost> 'sudo eject /dev/hdb' hangs
[08:00] <scguy318> phuzion: i would imagine PXE boot, theres probably a wiki guide on that
[08:00] <coreymanshack> nickrud k
[08:00] <nickrud> coreymanshack: or apt-get, or synaptic. They all work well
[08:00] <alecw1> nickrud: How do I upgrade from gThumb 2.10.2 to 2.10.9?
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: Then you more than likely have a mounted CD in it.
[08:01] <nickrud> alecw1: install gutsy on october 18th :)
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: You will need to umount it
[08:01] <alecw1> ok, thanks again nickrud, much appreciated!
[08:01] <Aval0n-> guys my friend, can can click and play a wav file and it sound fine
[08:01] <Aval0n-> when he cats it to /dev/audoi
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: mount
[08:01] <Aval0n-> it's static
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: the above command should show you that it is mounted [mount]
[08:01] <Aval0n-> also when he tries watching TV via mythtv on his dvb card he gets the same static
[08:01] <voidmain2> I'm the person who was switching the repositories from debian to ubuntu and I have nearly completed the switch with minimal errors. it's working with nearly no glitches, excellent
[08:01] <Aval0n-> anyone know what might be happening?
[08:02] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:02] <Zoiks> does anyone know what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid? I dont want to boot off it, merely use it as a more secure backup
[08:02] <riotkittie> voidmain2: congrats
[08:02] <niru> I have a sony laptop
[08:02] <voidmain2> :)
[08:02] <nickrud> voidmain2: congradulations, that would have been a disaster in breezy days
[08:02] <RAdams> Users no longer show up in my gdm facebrowser, using any theme, including human list. Any ideas why?
[08:02] <niru> it has network card of Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[08:02] <riotkittie> disasters <3
[08:02] <niru> my wireless connection is not detected
[08:02] <niru> what to do
[08:02] <alanapost> ok cdrom is not listed under command 'mount'
[08:02] <niru> I have installed 3 modules
[08:02] <phuzion> scguy318, thanks for the suggestion, I'll do this tomorrow
[08:02] <usr13> alanapost: Is also possible that that you have a window or file manager open showing contents of the CDROM?
[08:03] <niru> firmware-ipw3945
[08:03] <niru> ipw3945d
[08:03] <niru> ipw3945-modules-2.6.686
[08:03] <usr13> alanapost: Do you have a CD in the CD-RW drive?
[08:03] <niru> ?
[08:03] <alanapost> no all gui file managers etc (or programs that access external files) are closed
[08:03] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:03] <The_Entropy> hi everyone
[08:03] <alanapost> there is a cd in the drive, i have 1 audio, 1cdr, 1 bootable/live available as tests that are verified to work on another machine
[08:04] <GNine> !wifi
[08:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:04] <scguy318> niru: have you tried modprobing ipw3945? sudo modprobe ipw3945
[08:04] <usr13> alanapost: Is it an audo or data CD?
[08:04] <niru> scguy318, it shows segmentation fault
[08:04] <alanapost> usr13: right now, audio
[08:04] <riotkittie> nickrud: depends on how fast you can run.
[08:04] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I've gotta call it a night.
[08:05] <scguy318> niru: can you pastebin it?
[08:05] <niru> scguy318, ok
[08:05] <nickrud> riotkittie: fast enough :P
[08:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud: gnight
[08:05] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:05] <usr13> alanapost:  OK! Then, More-than-likely:  There is an application trying to play the audo CD.
[08:05] <usr13> Is this a fully updated system?
[08:06] <niru> scguy318, http://pastebin.ca/721384
[08:06] <usr13> alanapost: New install? or>...?
[08:06] <alanapost> usr13, usually a disc icon shows on my desktop before any applications try to access it
[08:06] <niru> scguy318, modprobe ipw3945d
[08:06] <niru> FATAL: Module ipw3945d not found.
[08:06] <usr13> alanapost: Well, apparently not in this case.
[08:06] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:06] <niru> scguy318, but I have installed those
[08:06] <alanapost> usr13, the install is 2 weeks old, packages installed mainly relating to codecs
[08:06] <asc> robert98374: try running xfce4-panel
[08:07] <scguy318> niru: sudo modprobe ipw3945, not ipw3945d
[08:07] <usr13> alanapost: Fully updated?
[08:07] <sylverfox> hi all
[08:07] <robert98374> asc that's the command?
[08:07] <niru> scguy318, I have pasted the link
[08:07] <scguy318> niru: and pastebin.ca is lagging :( try the Ubuntu pastebin?
[08:07] <asc> 'xfce4-panel'
[08:07] <CoasterMaster> Is there a way to print PDF documents 4 to a page?
[08:07] <niru> scguy318, http://pastebin.ca/721384
[08:07] <alanapost> usr13, i don't know, when i go to system --> update manager --> it says fully up to date
[08:07] <sylverfox> how can I unmount a partition and mount it somewhere else?
[08:07] <Aval0n-> guys what sound device does ubuntu use? when I cat a wav file to /dev/audio I get static, but clicking on the same wav file on the deskop it plays fine... anyone?
[08:08] <scguy318> sylvertfox: sudo umount /mnt/point, then sudo mount /dev/here /mnt/point/here
[08:08] <robert98374> asc so it started it back up but when I closed the terminal it also closed
[08:08] <Meglo> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/audio
[08:08] <Exposure> Aval0n-: /dev/dsp?
[08:08] <niru> scguy318, ?
[08:08] <Aval0n-> hmm
[08:08] <usr13> alanapost: Can you push the button on the CD-RW drive and open it?
[08:08] <scguy318> Aval0n-: why cat a wav? they're not exactly raw audio data
[08:08] <Aval0n-> yeah
[08:08] <alanapost> usr13 yes i can eject via the tray's button
[08:08] <asc> robert98374: Because it was running on the terminal. You can either run it from a run program dialog, or run it from a screen session and then detach the session.
[08:08] <Aval0n-> I'm trying to troubleshoot why his hdtv wonder just gives static for sound via myth
[08:09] <scguy318> niru: what Ubuntu are you using?
[08:09] <Meglo> What exactly is raw audio data and ready to be cat'd to /dev/dsp?
[08:09] <usr13> alanapost: Ok, then.  What is the problem?
[08:09] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, sudo umount /dev/devicename, them sudo mount /dev/devicename -t filesystemtype /new/pace/to/mount
[08:09] <niru> scguy318, edgy
[08:09] <alanapost> usr13, none of the inserted media mount, play, can be browsed, indexed, or anything at all
[08:09] <robert98374> asc what would stop it from starting at start up?
[08:09] <usr13> alanapost: Oh, here is the problem:  You were trying to mount an AUDIO CD.
[08:09] <usr13> alanapost: You will not be able to mount an audo CD
[08:09] <weltschmerz> anyone else having hibernation problems lately?
[08:09] <alanapost> previously i was trying to mount an ubuntu cd
[08:10] <riotkittie> alanapost: is this a dual boot system?
[08:10] <alanapost> no
[08:10] <usr13> alanapost: YOu can rip but not mount.
[08:10] <usr13> Ok?
[08:10] <scguy318> niru: mm I see
[08:10] <scguy318> niru: and you say you have installed the ipw3945 packages?
[08:10] <alanapost> i can't rip, if i open a cd ripping program it says no media inserted
[08:10] <riotkittie> alanapost: can your CD drive be removed from your laptop? if so, have you tried reseating it?
[08:10] <niru> scguy318, yes
[08:10] <alanapost> if i put in a dvd and open vlan, it says insert something first
[08:10] <The_Entropy> I am connected to the internet through my university WAN. I am currently tunneling my connection using openVPN. However, ubuntu keeps replacing the dns server of the tunnel with the one from the wireless network every 1min or so. is there a way to stop this?
[08:10] <asc> robert98374: Dunno. If it wasn't in the programs run when the session started, but I don't know if those are configurable
[08:10] <usr13> alanapost: If you want to mount a CD, place a data CD in, (not an audio CD).
[08:10] <alanapost> i guess i could remove the cd drive
[08:11] <riotkittie> wait. never mind. if you can eject, thats probably not the issue
[08:11] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, if you reboot with the live cd, does it give you the options menu?
[08:11] <alanapost> no, it ignores the cd drive on boot
[08:11] <alanapost> which is my main problem
[08:11] <alanapost> because i would just do a clean reinstall
[08:11] <overcluckerer> hiya
[08:11] <robert98374> asc I forgot what the command to keep it running after I close the the terminal
[08:11] <usr13> alanapost: Yes, if you but in a DVD, you will need video software to run the DVD movie.
[08:11] <riotkittie> robert98374: command &
[08:11] <alanapost> and yes already the bios is set to boot from cd before hd
[08:12] <alanapost> ugh i have been watching dvds on this exact laptop with the same xubuntu install 4 days ago
[08:12] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, is this a desktop?
[08:12] <scguy318> niru: do you have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed?
[08:12] <asc> riotkittie: Doesn't that just put it in the background?
[08:12] <scguy318> niru: a Launchpad suggestion, and did you do sudo modprobe ipw3945?
[08:12] <robert98374> riotkittie so it would be &xfce4-panel?
[08:12] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, you can either umount /dev/hda2, or /media/hda2
[08:12] <usr13> alanapost: If you watched a DVD 4 days ago, you should also be able to today.
[08:12] <alanapost> yes thanks i agree with you on that point
[08:13] <bluebanana> how can i type in Japanese on my ubuntu?
[08:13] <Aval0n-> can anyone tell me a wav player for command line?
[08:13] <niru> scguy318, let me check and I did modprob ipw3945 too
[08:13] <riotkittie> asc: oops
[08:13] <bluebanana> Aval0n-, mplayer
[08:13] <asc> Aval0n-: mplayer
[08:13] <bluebanana> asc, i beat you
[08:13] <usr13> alanapost: Unless you have un-installed some software that is needed to play the particular media files that you are trying to play now.
[08:13] <alanapost> i don't even care what media plays, as long as the cdrom drive functions in any way shape or form
[08:13] <riotkittie> robert98374: xfce4-panel & wont work if youre going to close th eterm
[08:13] <usr13> Aval0n-: play
[08:13] <Aval0n-> thnc
[08:13] <scguy318> niru: did you prefix sudo, or are you root?
[08:13] <riotkittie> the term*
[08:13] <alanapost> if it can't even be booted from, i am not too upset about failure to play mp3s
[08:14] <asc> bluebanana: Not on my screen you didn't
[08:14] <niru> scguy318, I am root
[08:14] <scguy318> niru: kk
[08:14] <asc> grr >:)
[08:14] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, so this is a laptop? if soo, its not a removable cd drive is it?
[08:14] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, well almost, you need to have the first one be /dev/hda2
[08:14] <alanapost> it's a laptop but with screwdrivers i find anything can be removed these days
[08:14] <riotkittie> alanapost: how old is this laptop?  if you cant even boot from the drive,  i have to wonder if perhaps its given up the ghost
[08:14] <asc> robert98374: I'm looking for a run program dialog in xfce...
[08:15] <robert98374> asc thanks
[08:15] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, lol, yes
[08:15] <alanapost> it's 2 years old and i booted from the drive to install xubuntu in the first place 2 weeks ago
[08:15] <alecw1> When is Ubuntu Gusty stable enough to download? I mean, there must be sometime before the official release date that the OS is stable enough to safely upgrade, right?
[08:15] <riotkittie> or maybe a wire just got jogged
[08:15] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, /media isn't where the devices actually are, just where they are mounted
[08:15] <riotkittie> two weeks is two weeks. i've seen hardware die in that period.
[08:15] <scguy318> alecw1: October 18, just wait :)
[08:16] <usr13> riotkittie: He may not be able to boot from it simply because it is not set as first boot device in BIOS.
[08:16] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, when you first start your computer, does it tell you you can press a key to specify what to boot off of?
[08:16] <alanapost> oh my god guys
[08:16] <alanapost> i'm sorry but
[08:16] <riotkittie> usr13: alanapost has stated they have changed the boot order properly, i believe
[08:16] <alanapost> i have answered the bios question so many times and even being asked in the first place is like, computers 101
[08:16] <smashcrab> alecw1 - I found tribe5 was stable enough for use on a dozen diff pc's for a while now .. but may as well just wait a little longer for the offiial release
[08:16] <riotkittie> then again, i havent really been following the convo
[08:16] <alecw1> scguy318: no! I'm too impatient. It's not like October 18 is the day it FINALLY becomes stable...
[08:16] <riotkittie> but i seem to recall him/her having stated that :P
[08:17] <scguy318> alecw1: the Gutsy release schedule page on Ubuntu Wiki may help you decide when its stable enough :)
[08:17] <asc> Does anybody know how to start xfce's run program dialog? :p
[08:17] <alecw1> smashcrab: I want to upgrade from Fiesty, is it stable enough for that? To preserve my apps and data?
[08:17] <alanapost> my primary source of puzzlement, bewilderment if you will, is to why this cd drive spins and so forth, shows up in device manager, is a boot option in BIOS, but is passed over in boot sequence
[08:17] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, can you press a key to choose what to boot off of? and who makes that laptop?
[08:17] <overcluckerer> sylver mkdir sudo mkdir /home/hda2 && mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /home/hda2
[08:17] <usr13> riotkittie: Well, for some time now, he has been tryint to mount an audio CD
[08:17] <smashcrab> I wouldnt wanna guess, I only did clean installs
[08:18] <usr13> riotkittie: We overlooked the fact that he may not have a data CD in the device so...
[08:18] <alanapost> usr13, you are the most useless person i have ever had the misfortune to try and communicate with, and i hope to god you have asperger's because otherwise there is no excuse
[08:18] <usr13> in the first place..
[08:18] <scguy318> alanapost: did you burn it as an image? sorry if you've already answered
[08:18] <pillowpants> can anyone here recommend the easiest way to setup a file server
[08:18] <riotkittie> this is what i have seen in my failure to pay attention > cd can't be booted from, drive does not automount, and regardless of the type of disc, there is no data to be seen
[08:18] <pillowpants> nfs, samba, or other
[08:18] <usr13> alanapost: Thank you very much.  :)
[08:18] <alanapost> die in a fire
[08:18] <riotkittie> usr13:  you make my head hurt, you really do.
[08:19] <usr13> alanapost: I suppose none of the information I gave you has helped any?
[08:19] <riotkittie> alanapost: that wasnt nice. tsk tsk .
[08:19] <Crozar> i cant beleive im connected
[08:19] <alanapost> no, it has been repetitive noncomprehending nonsense
[08:19] <denmax> usr13 -  u still here :D
[08:19] <Crozar> can some1 see my chat
[08:19] <asc> robert98374: Well, okay. 'sudo apt-get install screen', 'screen', press enter to get past the intro, then run 'xfce4-panel', hit 'control-a-d' to detach screen, and then you can close the terminal. There is a better way to do it, of course.
[08:19] <riotkittie> Crozar: yes
[08:19] <usr13> denmax: Yes?
[08:19] <Crozar> heelppppppppppppppPPP!!!!
[08:19] <scguy318> alanapost: what's the original problem? ive totally missed out on the original question
[08:19] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, can you press a key to choose what to boot off of? and who makes that laptop?
[08:19] <Crozar> its a miracle
[08:19] <alanapost> i have had better tech support from Dell India
[08:19] <scguy318> Crozar: i cant see your chat Crozar ;)
[08:19] <usr13> riotkittie: Thanks for the nice words.
[08:19] <scguy318> alanapost: what's the original problem? ive totally missed out on the original question
[08:19] <riotkittie> alanapost: as i've said, i havent really been following the chat as i was helping two people in PMs. did you do the dmesg thing?
[08:19] <usr13> I'm only trying to help.
[08:20] <alanapost> press a key to choose what to boot off of.. (?) like, when the system's loading? i can choose which kernal (normal/recovery)?
[08:20] <robert98374> asc wow, I hopr I don't have to do that everytime I restart
[08:20] <riotkittie> usr13: trying to help is one thing, and i'm really not trying to be mean here, but you dont seem to be attention to what the people you're trying to help are saying/have said, and then you seem to
[08:20] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, no, like on my laptop i can press F11 while the BIOS splash screen shows and i can choose to boot off my hardrive, cd drive or network, etc
[08:20] <riotkittie> launch into tangents that are so totally not related
[08:21] <denmax> I am still unable to connect to the internet. for some reason, ubuntu is not able to connect to my router, or even get an ipaddress from the router. i have tried both static / dhcp :(
[08:21] <asc> robert98374: You shouldn't have to, but I'm failing to find the run program thing
[08:21] <alanapost> i can press F2 to get to BIOS settings, but i don't get to manually select a boot source each time i start the system (unless i haven't enabled some setting)
[08:21] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, overriding whatever order is set in the bios
[08:21] <asc> robert98374: There should also be a way to configure which programs run on boot, but I don't know where to find that either. I've never actually used xfce.
[08:21] <Crozar> guys please listen up , this is a strange problem i had this problem with ubuntu edgy and i havent solved it i didnt try to go deep in the matter but now i did with gusty i still havent found the problem but suddenly my irc is connected this internet problem it wasnt working i could ping websites but cant connect to sites i could see my network but when using firefox irc or kopete it keeps saying connecting then suddenly unable to connect so
[08:21] <Crozar>  i did put my ubuntu7 feisty live cd because only feisty didnt give me any problems
[08:21] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, who makes that laptop?
[08:21] <alanapost> gateway
[08:22] <robert98374> asc yeah I am running into the same issue
[08:22] <alanapost> it is junk but it's been working and i'm maybe 95% sure it's not the hardware
[08:22] <Crozar> LOL still i cant connect to firefox
[08:23] <Crozar> only irc is working
[08:23] <usr13> riotkittie: The only way you can help someone is to get detailed information from them about what they are trying to do.  YOu don't seem to understand that fact.  SOrry but like I said; I am only trying to help.
[08:23] <alanapost> i think that if i could do a fresh install the problem would resolve but without being able to boot from cd i am not sure how to go about it without creating more problems
[08:23] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, what model?
[08:23] <alanapost> mx6123
[08:23] <usr13> alanapost: I don't think you need to re-install.
[08:23] <alanapost> crozar it is probably your dns
[08:23] <denmax> hey guys, a little help here please.
[08:23] <usr13> alanapost: Just fix the issues you have .
[08:24] <riotkittie> usr13: i do seem to understand that fact, but let's be honest. i wasnt following the conversation nor trying to assist them, but even i was aware that they'd repeatedly stated they'd changed the boot order in BIOS
[08:24] <scguy318> !install | alanapost
[08:24] <ubotu> alanapost: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:24] <asc> robert98374: Hah, might have found it.
[08:24] <scguy318> alanapost: if you haven't already seen that
[08:24] <Crozar> alanapost pm me il send u the whole study of my network
[08:24] <scguy318> alanapost: there are ways to install without CD
[08:24] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/M280/1008547faq20.shtml
[08:24] <alanapost> hahaha
[08:24] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, that lets you choose what to boot off
[08:24] <robert98374> asc kewl
[08:24] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, press F10
[08:24] <Crozar> alanapost: i have everything u need trust me on a simple view
[08:24] <sylverfox> I could not manage with the mounting
[08:24] <riotkittie> and i was aware of the issue. again, not following the conversation, i knew it had nothing to do not with trying to mount an audio CD but the fact that CDs werent recognized at all
[08:24] <sylverfox> i could umount the partition
[08:25] <sylverfox> but could not mount it
[08:25] <sylverfox> :-(
[08:25] <RAdams> Is there anything similar to Apple's "Dock" besides kicker?
[08:25] <usr13> riotkittie: Sorry, but I missed that detail.  But Sure glad you didn't :)
[08:25] <asc> robert98374: Run 'xfce4-autostart-editor'. Click add. Put in a name and, for the command, 'xfce4-panel'
[08:25] <Cebulinux--> i have the beta of gutsy.. is it safe to update using it?
[08:25] <overclucker> sylver show me what you did to mount it
[08:25] <asc> robert98374: This may or may not work, but it's probably the best bet right now.
[08:25] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, so while you see the bios splash screen, press f10 then choose cd rom from the little menu and that should boot off the cd
[08:25] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:25] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:25] <riotkittie> RAdams: i believve there's kiba dock
[08:25] <ubunt1> nono
[08:26] <ubunt1> all hardisk go
[08:26] <sylverfox> sudo mount /dev/hda2 ext3 /home/szacsvdm/Raktar2
[08:26] <ubunt1> what is this
[08:26] <alanapost> my BIOS settings are totally fine, they're actually set to look at the HD even later than the original settings (which were probably fine anyway, i mean i probably will never have to netboot)
[08:26] <ubunt1> when i open the hard disk it is coming
[08:26] <overclucker> sylver, -t goes right after mount
[08:26] <scguy318> ubuntu1: thats the raw data on your hard disk...
[08:26] <Cebulinux--> or how can i upgrade to 7.10
[08:26] <sylverfox> the current mounting point is /home/family/Raktar2
[08:26] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, yes, however this bypasses those settings
[08:26] <overclucker> mount -t ext3
[08:26] <ubunt1> what
[08:26] <overclucker> mount -t ext3 /dev/.....
[08:26] <rabbitnightmare> if i copy all of my music as root will i be able to access them on another distribution?
[08:26] <ubunt1> i have fat32
[08:26] <scguy318> Cebulinux--: the Gutsy release notes should have a discussion of how to upgrade
[08:26] <alanapost> so is this something other than bios settings, or is it hitting enter when selecting cdrom within bios boot order menu?
[08:26] <ubunt1> scguy318:  hey
[08:27] <scguy318> Cebulinux--: dist-upgrade is a huge nono I think
[08:27] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to restrore the information?
[08:27] <rabbitnightmare> to another hard drive
[08:27] <scguy318> ubuntu1: what do you mean?
[08:27] <ubunt1> all things that i have in this hard disk is that &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:27] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:27] <usr13> alanapost: Try excluding the HD altogether (from boot sequence).
[08:27] <robert98374> asc thanks ill try it out in the morning
[08:27] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, this is a way to specify what to boot off of without entering the bios and messing with the order. whatever option you choose to boot off of in this menu is where your machine will look for an operating system i.e the cd drive.
[08:27] <scguy318> ubuntu1: how are you viewing this information?
[08:28] <alanapost> usr13, my bios boot order menu doesn't let me remove items, only change the order they appear in
[08:28] <overclucker> sylverfox, i think i had a moment of dyslexia, and told it to you wrong before, sorry
[08:28] <asc> rabbitnightmare: You'll be able to read it certainly. If you want to do other things, you might need to chown it, since that will change the owner to 'root'
[08:28] <asc> robert98374: Kay. Good luck.
[08:28] <ubunt1> open the hard disk and i see it
[08:28] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, are you on the laptop now?
[08:28] <sylverfox> overluckerer: it works now
[08:28] <themoebius> hey guys I'm having a problem with my hard drive. its saying it can't mount it because it can't read the superblock. I have the same problem in windows. But it does know the correct name of the drive. Is there any hope of recovering it?
[08:28] <sylverfox> but will this work after restarting the computer?
[08:28] <ubunt1> /media/hardisk-3 too show it &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:28] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:28] <ubunt1> nonoi
[08:28] <usr13> alanapost: If you have a bootable CD and the CDROM is first in the boot sequence order and your hardware is OK, it should boot to the CD.
[08:28] <alanapost> i'll try rebooting and pressing F10 to access this other boot menu, but i don't see the screen the gateway.com doc refers to, so i'm not sure if it's going to have effect..
[08:28] <overclucker> sylverfox, nope, but i can help with that
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to restore it.
[08:29] <Supaplex> how do I get a refund for vista from HP? I've never used it but they're being a pill. :-/
[08:29] <scguy318> ubuntu1: your file system seems to be seriously messed up, what did you do recently? i advise testdisk for data recovery
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to restore.
[08:29] <rabbitnightmare> ty asc
[08:29] <scguy318> ubuntu1: is that your directory listing? if so...ouch
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318:  hwo to test it
[08:29] <riotkittie> Supaplex: you can contact them, and ask if they'll provide a refund... but not all of them will
[08:29] <overclucker> sylverfox, gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[08:29] <scguy318> !testdisk
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <scguy318> bah
[08:29] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, i would hope so, since the documentation claims it. if not, i think gateway deserves a call to explain this one
[08:29] <scguy318> um moment
[08:29] <usr13> alanapost: Some laptops use the Esc key to bring up boot menu.
[08:29] <riotkittie> Supaplex: oh wait, you've already done that
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318: ???
[08:30] <overclucker> sylverfox, thais controls what mounts on boot, and boot order
[08:30] <denmax> i m having a bit of a trouble with my ethernet card, trying to access the internet from ubuntu. any idea where do i start troubleshooting from ?
[08:30] <overclucker> s/order/priority
[08:30] <scguy318> ubunt1: gimme a moment so I can point you to a guide
[08:30] <scguy318> ubunt1: is what you're showing me a directory listing?
[08:30] <ubunt1> ?
[08:31] <Supaplex> riotkittie: yeah. I thought they had to comply with the 1999 MSFT vs NY civil antitrust ruling.
[08:31] <alanapost> usr13 my lack of linux kung fu shouldn't keep indicating that 1. i think i can boot from an audio cd; 2. i don't understand what boot orders indicate 3. i am not aware of sudo 4. whatever else keeps coming up that seems incredibly ridiculous
[08:31] <ubunt1> it is files and directory too
[08:31] <scguy318> ubuntu1: on second thought
[08:31] <scguy318> ubunt1: if you type reset in the terminal
[08:31] <scguy318> ubunt1: and do ls, is the display a-ok?
[08:31] <ubunt1> what will happend?
[08:31] <overclucker> sylverfox, do you see the line in fstab that has /media/hda2 in it?
[08:31] <scguy318> ubunt1: maybe your terminal font is messed up, do reset then ls?
[08:32] <ubunt1> nautilus too show it
[08:32] <a-stray-ca1> if i try to record something with my mic i get "arecord: set_params:909: Channels count non available"
[08:32] <sylverfox> yes
[08:32] <scguy318> ubunt1: mm ouch, ya testdisk
[08:32] <alanapost> anyway thanks for your help guys with the sad exclusion of usr13, of whom i can only say if i did tech support like that for the windows users at my work i would be out of a job quite rapidly
[08:32] <a-stray-ca1> how would i go about figuring out whats wrong :/
[08:32] <ubunt1> how to test it
[08:32] <ubunt1> how to test it
[08:32] <riotkittie> Supaplex: i'm not sure of that myself. try contacting spitzer's office and seeing what they say. wait, he's not the AG any more. uhm. contact the AG'S office and see what they say? :P
[08:33] <overclucker> sylverfox, post it
[08:33] <evilxhwnd> lol
[08:33] <scguy318> ubunt1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[08:33] <a-stray-ca1> starting using this: arecord -f cd -D hw:1,0 -d 20 test.wav, have a usb mic as card 1, device 0
[08:33] <ubunt1> i can't unmount it An application is preventing the volume from being unmounted.
[08:33] <scguy318> ubunt1: what did you do recently?
[08:33] <ubunt1> gnome part
[08:33] <ubunt1> but it work
[08:33] <ubunt1> then i install oblivion with cxoffice
[08:33] <scguy318> ubunt1: what were you doing in GPartEd?
[08:33] <sylverfox> # /dev/hda2
[08:34] <sylverfox> UUID=507d5276-54cd-4ea0-a451-9286e066a012 /home/family/Raktar2 ext3    defaults        0       2
[08:34] <Supaplex> riotkittie: good idea. it's too bad ubuntu doesn't have any difinitive information regarding this issue on their site. *shrug* maybe it's too dirty to get involved with. :-d
[08:34] <ubunt1> then i install oblivion with cxoffice
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: what were you doing in GPartEd?
[08:34] <sylverfox> in the past i tried to change simpli the path but it didn't work
[08:34] <ubunt1> nothing only to make ext3,but then i restore it
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: restore what?
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: i really need specifics here, and look at the link I gave you
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: you really should use a LiveCD to recover data
[08:35] <scguy318> ubunt1: your data looks to be in a bit of doo-doo
[08:35] <ubunt1> is that what the link write
[08:35] <ubunt1> what mena doo-doo
[08:35] <riotkittie> Supaplex: take the easy route and just put the disc up for bid on eBay :P  or is it one of those stupid recovery CDs?
[08:35] <darkchr0n0s> which live CD has ntfs support... knoppix ?
[08:35] <a-stray-ca1> anyone have any idea? :(
[08:35] <Supaplex> riotkittie: worse. it's a recovery partition, and I formatted it already.
[08:35] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: Ubuntu does, if you install ntfs-3g
[08:36] <overclucker> sylverfox, for human readabilty, i suggest you replace it with :
[08:36] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: if slax doesn't, there's probably a module that can be added to enable it
[08:36] <scguy318> ubunt1: your data is in serious trouble
[08:36] <scguy318> ubunt1: please read the link
[08:36] <awake> Hi people, what do u suggest to make a complete backup of my pc?
[08:36] <darkchr0n0s> hmm.. thanks
[08:36] <ubunt1> scguy318: and if i restart the computer
[08:36] <ubunt1> this program on the website are wrong
[08:36] <Supaplex> riotkittie: hummm technically the licence is non-transferable or some bs like that, but maybe that doesn't apply to me if I haven't even booted it. (vista never booted in my hands)
[08:36] <overclucker> sylverfox, /dev/hda2 /home/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0
[08:36] <scguy318> ubunt1: what program? what website?
[08:36] <riotkittie> Supaplex: oh yea, i forgot theyre being super cheap and just putting it all on partitions now. in that case, forget any chance of a refund, sorry :|
[08:37] <scguy318> ubunt1: all I can tell you is that your data is probably lost or corrupt, I dunno what you did recently, you weren't specific about that
[08:37] <darkchr0n0s> awake:  what u mean by complete backup.. u want OS and configs too ?
[08:37] <ubunt1> i don't want to save the files that i have on the disk and then again to restore
[08:37] <scguy318> ubunt1: so, read the link I gave you
[08:37] <ubunt1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[08:37] <ubunt1> i read it
[08:37] <ubunt1> why is there no program like scandisk?
[08:37] <pLr> is there alot of server tutorials w/ ubuntu?
[08:37] <sylverfox> overclucker: sould i simply cut out the UUID?
[08:37] <scguy318> ubunt1: because the Linux equivalent is fsck, and that's NOT what we need rght now
[08:37] <riotkittie> there is a program like scandisk. fsck.
[08:38] <scguy318> ubunt1: your partition seems to be seriously screwed up, you need to get to a LiveCD and start the recovery process
[08:38] <riotkittie> and as scguy318 said, its not what you need right now :P
[08:38] <ubunt1> scguy318: the problem is that
[08:38] <arvin2212> hey guys
[08:38] <overclucker> sylverfox, yeah you can remove that whoel lineand replace it with what i gave you
[08:38] <scguy318> if y'all have any good tips, fill ubunt1 in
[08:38] <arvin2212> anyone knows a good way to install compiz with an ati video card?
[08:38] <overclucker> sylverfox, /dev/hda2 /home/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0
[08:38] <ubunt1> scguy318:  and if restart the computer ?
[08:39] <darkchr0n0s> !effects
[08:39] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <scguy318> ubunt1: what do you mean?
[08:39] <darkchr0n0s> !effects > arvin2212
[08:39] <sylverfox> ok
[08:39] <sylverfox> let's see if it works
[08:39] <sylverfox> just one more question
[08:39] <arvin2212> thanks
[08:39] <riotkittie> arvin2212: yes, step one is realizing that ATI cards are miserable. step two is replacing it.  alternately, just wait til gutsy is released.
[08:39] <overclucker> mkay\
[08:39] <sylverfox> i see here a Floppy drive
[08:39] <sylverfox> but i don't have one
[08:39] <overclucker> fd?
[08:39] <ubunt1> scguy318:  maybe that restart could help
[08:39] <sylverfox> should i simpli remove thet line?
[08:40] <pLr> can ubuntu run dhcp nat? are there tutorials available? if so on which distro????
[08:40] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie:  ATi is a pain, but it works, somehow
[08:40] <scguy318> ubunt1: you could try, I guess, but based on what you told me, your data seems to be in trouble
[08:40] <arvin2212> lol..i dont have enuf funds to replaceit
[08:40] <arvin2212> :D
[08:40] <usr13> pLr: Yes ubuntu can run dhcp and nat
[08:40] <overclucker> sylverfox, if you want, shouldn't pose a problem
[08:40] <sylverfox> grate
[08:40] <ubunt1> hmmm
[08:40] <usr13> pLr: man dhcpd  man iptables
[08:40] <sylverfox> UUID?
[08:40] <sylverfox> what is that?
[08:40] <miyaka> join #twisted
[08:41] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: i've never had success  :P  but yea,  plenty have accomplished it
[08:41] <scguy318> sylverfox: its a unique identifier for a partition
[08:41] <pLr> usr13: which version is most stable for that w/ qos & monitoring..
[08:41] <brad016> Is there any text-to-speech app that comes with ubuntu?
[08:41] <scguy318> sylverfox: because device names can change
[08:41] <sylverfox> it isn't a problem if I take that out from every partition?
[08:41] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie:  i am using compiz on ATi mobitity Radeon x2300 :D
[08:41] <usr13> pLr: Please rephrase your question.
[08:41] <overclucker> sylverfox, disk label, that way you can move the disk, and still have it boot
[08:41] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: i've got it running on gutsy. yay for preinstallation.   :x
[08:42] <arvin2212> hmm darkchr0n0s did u install any drivers for ur ati card?
[08:42] <riotkittie> i need a new gfx card, tho. i have an x300 <weep>
[08:42] <pLr> usr13: which release is most stable for that w/ qos & monitoring..
[08:42] <usr13> pLr: Are you wanting to build a router?
[08:42] <overclucker> sylverfox, you might want to keep it for root
[08:42] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  ATi drivers from ati.amd.com
[08:42] <pLr> usr13: yes w/ qos for voip
[08:42] <usr13> qos?
[08:42] <sylverfox> overclucker: for the root partition?
[08:42] <ferronica> openoffice.org word wont print in black
[08:42] <sylverfox> i don't have one separatly
[08:42] <arvin2212> thank you very much darkchr0n0s
[08:43] <Tom47> brad016 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[08:43] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  it's not that easy :P
[08:43] <usr13> pLr: So you are wanting to build a NAT router?
[08:43] <overclucker> sylverfox, uuidblahblah / ext3 blah
[08:43] <sylverfox> just hda1 to hda3 and swap and cdrom0 to cdrom1
[08:43] <arvin2212> but im abit afraid that if i update my driver then i wouldnt be able to access the desktop effects window as what i've done previously
[08:43] <sylverfox> ok
[08:43] <arvin2212> right now am using a freshly installed ubuntu
[08:43] <sylverfox> i got it now
[08:43] <sylverfox> thanks
[08:43] <overclucker> mkay
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  i suggest wait for 7.10
[08:44] <sylverfox> i save it now and try to rebbot
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  about 10-15 days
[08:44] <arvin2212> hmm
[08:44] <arvin2212> :D
[08:44] <arvin2212> whats new in 7.10/
[08:44] <pLr> usr13: yes w/ qos for voip
[08:44] <usr13> pLr: I would suggest a distro like IPcop
[08:44] <iceslice> How do I clear my Nautilus trash can without deleting the fiels?
[08:44] <iceslice> er, files
[08:44] <arvin2212> whats new in 7.10?*
[08:44] <scguy318> ubunt1: okay, a question for you: eres de Espana?
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  compiz-fusion preinstalled
[08:44] <overclucker> sylverfox, if you move the disk to another bus, or to a different compy, uuid lets you without it having to be explicitly hda1
[08:44] <scguy318> ubunt1: your IP address seems to suggest that you are from Spain
[08:44] <arvin2212> ahh
[08:45] <pLr> usr13: someone told me pfsense is IPcop better/
[08:45] <arvin2212> hthat would be so nice
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  if luck might work out of box
[08:45] <arvin2212> :D
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> lucky*
[08:45] <arvin2212> well let's keep our fingers crossed
[08:45] <sylverfox> ok overclucker
[08:45] <sylverfox> thanks
[08:45] <ubunt1> scguy318:  yes hwy
[08:45] <usr13> pLr: see: ipcop.org
[08:45] <overclucker> no prob
[08:45] <sylverfox> i will reboot now and see whats happening
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> nice torrent speeds :D
[08:46] <scguy318> !es | ubunt1
[08:46] <ubotu> ubunt1: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <darkchr0n0s> espanol
[08:46] <scguy318> ubunt1: perhaps you may be better served there, I'm sure a language barrier isn't fun to deal with along with a computer problem :(
[08:46] <ubunt1> !es | scguy318
[08:46] <ubotu> scguy318: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <ubunt1> no thanks
[08:46] <scguy318> ubunt1: okay then
[08:47] <ubunt1> why i can't install fsck
[08:47] <scguy318> ubunt1: you dont
[08:47] <darkchr0n0s> it's always there
[08:47] <scguy318> ubunt1: you shouldn't run it on a mounted partition anyway
[08:47] <ubunt1> and how to unmount the partition
[08:48] <scguy318> ubunt1: sudo umount /the/mnt/point/here but I strongly suggest doing all this fun stuff from a LiveCD
[08:48] <denmax> i am not able to access internet from ubuntu . any suggestions please ?
[08:48] <ubunt1> why
[08:48] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  is it a good idea to run fsck periodically ?
[08:48] <scguy318> denmax: wireless or wired?
[08:48] <ubunt1> scguy318: why
[08:48] <scguy318> ubunt1: for the safety of your data
[08:48] <scguy318> ubunt1: what exactly did you do in GPartEd anyway?
[08:49] <ubunt1> scguy318: restore from ext3
[08:49] <usr13> pLr: See:  ipcop.org pfsense.com http://m0n0.ch/wall/   etc.
[08:49] <denmax> scguy318 - is it okay to pm ?
[08:49] <scguy318> yes
[08:50] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: well, Ubuntu does it for you ;)
[08:50] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: so I guess yeah
[08:50] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: you know, every x mounts
[08:50] <sylverfox> re
[08:50] <sylverfox> overclucker: it doesn't work very well
[08:50] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  thanks
[08:50] <sylverfox> it mounted them under /media/disk
[08:51] <sylverfox> and /media/disk-1
[08:51] <pLr> usr13: i should go w/ ipcop?
[08:51] <sylverfox> but in fstab this aren't the mount points
[08:51] <b14ck> can anyone tell me why when i share folders with samba on my ubuntu computer, i can't get them from a wnidows computer? it asks for a password, but i want it to be un password protected.....
[08:51] <scguy318> ubunt1: restore from what? i strongly strongly strongly suggest testdisk
[08:51] <usr13> pLr: and http://www.smoothwall.org/
[08:51] <scguy318> ubunt1: your filesystem seems fubared
[08:51] <overclucker> sylverfox, to the mount poinst exist?
[08:51] <usr13> pLr: I recommend ipcop
[08:52] <sylverfox> one exists
[08:52] <sylverfox> but it isn't mounted there
[08:52] <iceslice> I've got a bunch of protected files linked to my trash can, how do i clear them out without deleting them?
[08:52] <Fishscene> Hey folks. I have, what I hope to be, an easy question
[08:52] <overclucker> sylverfox, and you rebooted?
[08:52] <sylverfox> yes
[08:52] <Fishscene> How do I get root-level access in Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:53] <scguy318> !root | Fishscene
[08:53] <ubotu> Fishscene: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> Fishscene:  use sudo before every comand
[08:53] <overclucker> sylverfox, pastebin you fstab
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  what does sudo passwd will do then??
[08:53] <overclucker> !paste
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <Fishscene> it asks me for a password
[08:54] <usr13> pLr: ipcop is user friendly and the documentation is good.  See: http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/admin/html/
[08:54] <darkchr0n0s> Fishscene:  enter ur password
[08:54] <sylverfox> should i send it in private?
[08:54] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to test the disk
[08:54] <darkchr0n0s> Fishscene:  the one you use to login
[08:54] <overclucker> sylverfox, that would work too
[08:54] <Fishscene> ....
[08:54] <Fishscene> weird. Now it's working. Thanks guys :)
[08:54] <overclucker> sylverfox, pm?
[08:54] <scguy318> ubunt1: the link I gave you tells you
[08:54] <pLr> usr13: pfsense has more idlers on irc ;P
[08:54] <ubunt1> scguy318: i want some program that make it
[08:54] <turffy> Hi can any one help me Im configuring a new installed feisty to connect to a belkin wireless router and the wireless adapter im using is a d-link Air plus g dwl-g510. the router is just using wpa for security, i followed the instruction on http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html but I could not see wpa personal. can any one direct me to a complete how to, thanks.
[08:55] <usr13> pLr: BUT, I have most of my experience with IPcop and smoothwall. I've yet to try pfsense  So...
[08:55] <scguy318> ubunt1: testdisk can do the job, and are you sure you don't want to seek help in a Spanish channel?
[08:56] <ubunt1> scguy318: no thanks
[08:56] <turffy> I have use the link in my ibm laptop and im not having a problem
[08:56] <ubunt1> scguy318: now lets see
[08:56] <pLr> usr13: thx
[08:56] <usr13> pLr: just because there is more activity on IRC is not (in my opinion) a good reason to believe that it is the one that will best suit your needs.
[08:57] <usr13> pLr: Read the docs and ask more questions of others - first and then make up your mind
[08:57] <pLr> usr13: ok i will
[08:58] <usr13> pLr: Ipcop has served me well.  I've used it for several years now.
[08:59] <usr13> pLr: I can tell you a lot about ipcop and a little about smoothwall and monowall but little about the others.
[08:59] <pLr> usr13: ppl in pfsense are saying how its better than cisco routers so im pretty sold on that ive used cisco before
[09:00] <usr13> pLr: well, you can count on the fact that it will be more feature rich and more user friendly too, (and the price is right).
[09:01] <ubunt1> scguy318: and testdisk what do
[09:01] <usr13> pLr: It's pretty increadable really.  Linux firewall routers rock
[09:01] <scguy318> ubunt1: it analyzes your partition for data that can be recovered
[09:01] <zac> hey whats the status on compiz/compiz-fusion on amd64? it seems like its mostly there but missing some packages?
[09:01] <scguy318> ubunt1: considering the sorry state of your partition, I think that's a very good idea
[09:02] <ubunt1> a start to analyze
[09:02] <ubunt1> 60800cyclynder
[09:02] <usr13> pLr: In other words, you will find all of them good, just some will have menus and options arranged the way you want them.
[09:02] <ubunt1> what that mean
[09:02] <zac> also whats the command to switch whatever broken window manager is running now back to default?
[09:02] <pLr> usr13: im picking that up, i've been a windows/cisco admin for the past 10 years.. what a waste.
[09:03] <ubunt1> plr
[09:03] <ubunt1> plr
[09:03] <pLr> ?
[09:03] <ubunt1> plr how cisco admin
[09:03] <usr13> Actually pfsense is BSD I think, right?
[09:03] <usr13> I don't know for sure.
[09:03] <pLr> ubunt1 what do you mean?
[09:03] <usr13> But not matter.
[09:03] <Fishscene> How do I navigate to the administrator desktop. I've tried using "cd .." which brings me to the home directory, but I can't seem to get anywhere else
[09:04] <ubunt1> plr windows cisco admin
[09:04] <ubunt1> ?
[09:04] <scguy318> Fishscene: root's home?
[09:04] <scguy318> Fishscene: /root I think
[09:04] <pLr> ubunt1: what is your question if i administer windows and cisco devices? yes.
[09:04] <Fishscene> Administrator's home
[09:05] <scguy318> Fishscene: well, this is Linux, so we call it root :)
[09:05] <scguy318> Fishscene: /root is it
[09:05] <ubunt1> plr but how can some peoples can be cisco admins
[09:05] <usr13> pLr: monowall also uses BSD kernel.
[09:05] <ubunt1> how they pay for the work?
[09:05] <ferronica_> how to print in office.org  document in black color ?
[09:05] <Fishscene> I just tried root successfully, but I'm not sure how to get to the desktop
[09:05] <scguy318> Fishscene: are you trying to login as root? if so, please read the link here
[09:06] <scguy318> !root | Fishscene
[09:06] <ubotu> Fishscene: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:06] <scguy318> Fishscene: there's absolutely no reason to
[09:06] <garette> hi all when i am running sudo apt-get install <package> after regular installation it shows me this weird output http://pastebin.ca/721382 please help
[09:06] <pLr> ubunt1: you get CCNA
[09:06] <ubunt1> plr yes
[09:06] <noskl1>  Fishscene: root does not have a desktop, since you can't normally login with root
[09:06] <ubunt1> plr but it is diffifult
[09:06] <danny500> ok big problem
[09:06] <ferronica_> ?
[09:06] <scguy318> danny500: wut
[09:06] <danny500> My computer will only run in 640X480 >_>
[09:07] <noskl1> Fishscene: tell us what you are trying to achieve instead
[09:07] <portablejim> How do you set the AuthMode=WPAPSK with ndiswrapper?
[09:07] <pLr> ubunt1: not if you enjoy playing w/ it ;)
[09:07] <ferronica_> how do i print in black color ?
[09:07] <Fishscene> ok here's my problem. I'm trying to install some 3rd party software. Which requires root privelages. The software is located on my desktop. At the login screen, I logged in as administrator
[09:07] <scguy318> Fishscene: what 3rd party software? does sudo not do it for you?
[09:07] <noskl1> ferronica_: you mean, like with a printer?
[09:07] <ubunt1> plr how they pay it for the work
[09:07] <Fishscene> VMWare tools
[09:07] <scguy318> Fishscene: and I don't believe you can login as root anyway, unless you set the root pass?
[09:07] <danny500> I do I force the computer to go into a different resolution?
[09:08] <darkchr0n0s> what do i use to make ISO of a disc ? k3b ??
[09:08] <noskl1> Fishscene: do you have an user called "Administrator"?
[09:08] <Fishscene> That was my problem earlier- I hadn't defined the root pass and I was confused why it was asking to to put it in :)
[09:08] <ubunt1> where i can find the command that can every day get hole
[09:08] <pLr> ubunt1: very well but its not many hours because its so stable
[09:08] <Fishscene> noskl1, yes
[09:08] <sylverfox> hi
[09:08] <ferronica_> noskl1: yes
[09:08] <sylverfox> overclucker: it works
[09:08] <sylverfox> thanks
[09:08] <Fishscene> I defined that account when I installed Ubuntu
[09:08] <danny500> O_O wait. I might be in safe mode >_<
[09:08] <darkchr0n0s> what do i use to make ISO of a disc ? k3b ?? anyone ?
[09:08] <pLr> Going to sleep now bye all
[09:08] <ferronica_> noskl1: by default word printin grey color :(
[09:08] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: to burn one? k3b or right clicking the ISO and doing burn
[09:08] <noskl1> Fishscene: so, your "administrator" user is not root
[09:08] <sylverfox> (how can i add the two partitions to my nautilus)
[09:08] <ubunt1> plr i want to work but i don't understand it
[09:08] <ferronica_> noskl1: i want to print in black color.
[09:08] <overclucker> sylverfox, no prob
[09:09] <noskl1> Fishscene: you have 2 users, "administrator" and "root"
[09:09] <Fishscene> Correct
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr i want to work but i don't understand it
[09:09] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  to make ISO from a disc.. that is copying the DISC onto hard drive
[09:09] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: ah
[09:09] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: i would just do
[09:09] <pLr> ubunt1: ccna torrent in google ;) goodnight
[09:09] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/iso/file/u/want bs=4096
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr ?
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr?
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr ?
[09:09] <darkchr0n0s> kk.. thanks
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr?
[09:09] <ubunt1> what
[09:10] <teKnofreak> plr == plz ?
[09:10] <noskl1> Fishscene: Whatever the document is telling you to do as root, you must do using sudo
[09:10] <scguy318> teKnofreak: no, hes trying to talk to a user whos going for the night
[09:10] <teKnofreak> ah ok
[09:10] <noskl1> just add "sudo" before all commands
[09:10] <ubunt1> this is bad if i know where to search to make a practic and someone to show me.
[09:10] <Fishscene> nokl1. Understood
[09:10] <scguy318> Fishscene: please read the link I gave you, it explains the Linux concept of security :)
[09:10] <teKnofreak> but that was pLr not plr :-s
[09:10] <noskl1> Fishscene: because there is no way to login as root, there is no root Desktop
[09:11] <scguy318> teKnofreak: i know, all lower case for him
[09:11] <garette> hi all when i am running sudo apt-get install <package> then in the output after regular installation it shows me this weird output http://pastebin.ca/721382 please help
[09:11] <teKnofreak> ohh
[09:11] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  is bs=4096 associated with ISO ?
[09:11] <noskl1> Fishscene: if you want to move to the "Administrator" desktop, just cd Desktop
[09:11] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: no, it just means, read 4096 bytes at a time