[00:00] <fta> asac, got an answer for 3.1
[00:23] <wgrant> asac: Are you planning to remove firefox soon? It appears to be uninstallable, and should probably die anyway...
[00:24] <fta> we will remove it
[00:24] <[reed]> ?
[00:24] <[reed]> oh, firefox 2?
[00:25] <wgrant> Yes.
[00:25] <fta> yes
[00:25] <fta> in intrepid only
[00:25] <[reed]> heh, k :)
[00:27] <fta> [reed], do you see any reason we should keep it ?
[00:27] <[reed]> no
[00:27] <[reed]> it becomes unsupported in December
[00:27] <[reed]> :)
[00:28] <fta> we discussed that during the last meeting and voted for the removal
[00:28] <fta> yeah, i know
[00:39] <fta> [reed], why did the moved the newtab button? it's impossible to move it now
[00:39] <fta> -d
[00:40] <[reed]> not sure, really. I saw the bug, but I didn't think anything about it
[00:42] <fta> hmmm, "Part 2 of Ogg backend seeking implementation"
[00:44] <fta> "More JIT testing on trunk. Crashers found, but many known. "  still crashing here
[01:01] <fta> the new flash is far better but still a pig
[01:02] <fta> 66% cpu + 14% for Xorg
[01:17] <fta> 40% under ff3.1, interesting
[05:36] <Hobbsee> fta: latest version doesn't build, current version doesn't install.
[16:28] <fta> asac, [reed], http://paste.ubuntu.com/51677/ bad mozilla
[16:45] <Andre1> hello
[16:46] <asac> fta: reconnect ;)
[16:46] <asac> Andre1: hi
[16:47] <Andre1> hhmmm ok sorry, this is my first time using IRC so bare with me
[16:48] <Andre1> can you help me with using lightning in ubuntu?
[16:51] <Andre1> hello?
[16:53] <asac> Andre1: install the lightning-extension package ;)
[16:53] <Andre1> i have lightning on my computer already
[16:54] <Andre1> for some reason I can't add events to my calender
[16:55] <Andre1> and currently I can't even shut down thunderbird. I've opened a terminal and typed top but I can't see thunderbird running
[16:57] <Andre1> any ideas?
[16:57] <Andre1> anyone watching this at all?
[17:01] <Andre1> 36 people in the room and I'm the only one talking?
[17:02] <Andre1> Sorry if I'm spamming, but I've never used IRC before so would appreciate knowing if anyone is listening
[17:04] <Andre1> magical
[17:09] <Knusper> I've never used IRC before... yeah... thats why you should read at least some documents about "how to behave on irc"
[17:09] <Knusper> lol
[17:37] <fta> [reed], libasound is linked everywhere in trunk, this is ugly: (
[17:38] <fta> even in libsqlite3.so
[18:02] <fta> asac, [reed]: firefox is 2nd: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport#
[19:28] <XioNoX> hi!
[19:29] <wikz> fta: I have a problem with the current user.I can't launch spicebird when I run as myself but other users on my sys can launch spicebird.Other users are both desktop users and admin privileged users.I get a cannot connect to dbus file error.
[19:31] <fta> wikz, hm, never heard of that
[19:31] <wikz> fta: I don't want to re-create my user as I have been using this for a long time, since 7.04
[19:31] <wikz> Lots of customizations and shortcuts
[19:31] <wikz> and I have been bothering my team that something is wron with spicebird :(
[19:32] <fta> you could disable dbus but there's probably a better solution
[19:32] <fta> did you google for your error message?
[19:34] <wikz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/85118
[19:34] <wikz> something like this fta
[19:34] <fta> asac, i've experimented a bit with the QT support in 3.1. I've drafted my ideas on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QT  please let me know what you think
[19:42] <fta> wikz, did you try to restart dbus?
[19:42] <wikz> restarted the system too
[19:42] <wikz> tried the tricks
[19:43] <wikz> why just with one user and not others
[19:44] <fta> you may have files/sockets with the wrong perms
[19:44] <fta> have a look in /var/run/dbus/ or /var/run/hald/
[19:45] <fta> try netstat -a
[19:45] <fta> or start spicebird under strace and look for dbus
[20:03] <wikz> fta: you also might need to ship firefox QT with a KDE theme like http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/
[20:25] <wikz> fta: Do I need to put the stuff in the /usr/share folder ?like thunderbird 2 or everything in one folder like TB3 ?
[20:27] <fta> wikz, debian (and lintian) would want you to do like tb2. here, we don't care much about that and prefer the upstream way.. at least for now.
[20:27] <wikz> thanks :)
[20:28] <wikz> fta: This brings me to the doubt whether I need to maintain separate binaries for debain and ubuntu ?
[20:28] <wikz> are debians really pricky about these ?
[20:30] <fta> they are, as there are driven by their strict policy. In theory, ubuntu too but this particular rule is not enforced, at least, not by us
[20:30] <wikz> man :|
[20:31] <fta> it's a choice we've made last year to stick with /usr/lib/product-version/ from upstream rather than having to patch and dissect to get /usr/lib/product and /usr/share/product
[20:34] <wikz> fta: there are other issues too.I need atleast telepathy 0.7.9 to use the system flag but hardy has 0.7.3 .ibex has 0.7.13.
[20:35] <fta> well, then build in-source for hardy :(
[20:36] <wikz> any point in supporting prior to hardy ? Gutsy and all ?
[20:37] <fta> i don't think so. the latest dev & stable and the lts are enough
[20:38] <fta> the further back you go, the worse it is to support, mainly because of dependencies
[21:22] <[reed]> fta: I'm not sure how to read this page...
[21:22] <[reed]> ah, let me read the wiki
[21:22] <fta> [reed], click on the link in the yellow box
[21:23] <[reed]> yeah
[21:23] <[reed]> so, basically, this says you all are doing a horrible job at triaging and pointing stuff upstream :p

[21:23] <armin76> lol
[21:24] <fta> [reed], or http://stompbox.typepad.com/blog/2008/09/introducing-the.html
[21:24] <fta> i'm much into bugs, that's a full time job
[21:25] <fta> especially with crappy^Hbig software like ff
[21:25] <[reed]> haha
[21:25] <[reed]> need to get more Ubuntu/Canonical QA folks working on stuff ;)
[21:27] <armin76> all slackers
[21:28] <[reed]> jcastro: very neat report ;)
[21:29] <fta> wikz, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-September/000113.html
[21:31] <fta> [reed], you know you can help us too
[21:32] <fta> [reed], especially that your are using the official builds on ubuntu, you could help triaging packaging/ubuntu bugs from upstream bugs in a blink
[21:33]  * fta votes for a 5-a-day just for [reed]
[21:34] <[reed]> jaja
[21:34] <[reed]> er
[21:34] <[reed]> haha
[21:34] <[reed]> I already triage bugs in Bugzilla!
[21:34] <[reed]> yet another bug tracking system :(
[21:35] <[reed]> I'm more than happy to help track down bugs upstream on a request basis, but I honestly don't have the time to triage all the bugs in launchpad
[21:36] <[reed]> I'm already super busy ;(
[21:39] <fta> the last column could do
[21:39] <fta> those in pending_bugwatch
[21:39] <fta> just 33
[21:44] <wikz> fta: how can I add our bugzilla in the launchpad project settings ?so that users file bug directly there instead of here?Do you have a better suggestion than this ?
[21:46] <fta> hm, in the project page, there's something
[21:47] <wikz> yes bugzillas for lots projects but obviously noy ours
[21:47] <wikz> one says somewhere else
[21:48] <wikz> that's all
[21:52] <fta> wikz, i just asked the lp admin, you have to file a question to request it: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[22:00] <wikz> fta: thanks :)
[22:06] <[reed]> fta: ok, I'll try to take a look later this week
[22:06] <[reed]> too many projects due before that ;)
[22:31] <fta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928263
[22:34] <fta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927822


[00:35] <rick_h_> jcastro: I'll be good and hit the answer up :P
[00:36] <jcastro> I also meant your other questions
[00:36] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/users/1550/rick
[00:36] <jcastro> otherwise when you ask it's like "0% accept rate" and people are like "ewww"
[00:36] <rick_h_> yea, gotcha. I've got 100% on SO but my answers here haven't been home runs
[00:37] <rick_h_> you're right though
[03:18] <snap-l> Good evening
[03:34] <_stink_> yo
[03:41] <greg-g> hi hi
[03:41] <_stink_> is it like noon there?
[03:42] <greg-g> about :)
[04:13] <snap-l> Uploading another Club Metal
[04:13] <snap-l> This is one you won't want to miss
[04:13] <snap-l> the lead track is so damn powerful
[04:31] <snap-l> Your ears deserve to hear this episode, so I couldn't wait to share: !openmetalcast Special Episode: Club Metal 7
[04:31] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/11/17/open-metalcast-special-episode-club-metal-7/
[04:35] <snap-l> Wow, identi.ca use has really tapered off
[04:35] <snap-l> http://identi.ca/snapl/all
[04:47] <greg-g> yeah, it is sad :(
[04:53] <snap-l> I'm not even getting the normal kook response
[12:39] <rick_h_> morning
[12:39] <rick_h_> bah, another day of rss, another day without a nexus link
[13:02] <Wolfger> rick_h_: at least it's a Friday without a nexus link...
[13:03] <rick_h_> booooo!
[13:03] <rick_h_> but yea, friday ftw, I need this weekend
[13:05] <Wolfger> this weekend will be nice. Next weekend will be better. 4-day ftw
[13:06] <brousch> rick_h_: so your head has not exploded yet?
[13:08] <rick_h_> brousch: get with me at the end of the day
[13:08] <rick_h_> if I can finally get my merges into dev today I'll be happy
[13:08] <rick_h_> if not...get the paper towels
[13:10] <brousch> i'll bring a tarp
[13:21] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/11/17/open-metalcast-special-episode-club-metal-7/
[13:21] <snap-l> You must listen to the first track, at the very least
[13:21] <snap-l> I know the industrial / cyber-metal isn't everyone's cup of tea.
[13:24] <brousch> dangit, i am just about to start ep 33
[13:24] <brousch> i'm like 3 behind now
[13:24] <snap-l> That's OK. They don't expire. ;)
[13:25] <Wolfger> I need to go through and get the last instumetalcast still.
[14:14] <snap-l> http://xkcd.com/979/
[14:15] <rick_h_> yea, it needs to go into the halls of the great xkcd
[14:15] <ColonelPanic001> so very true
[14:15] <ColonelPanic001> especially the alt-text
[14:16] <snap-l> That's about it
[14:16] <ColonelPanic001> I want to send flowers to the poster every time the thread only has two posts, and the second is the same guy saying "figured it out, here's what I did"
[14:16] <snap-l> Hey, Windows is updating
[14:16] <ColonelPanic001> STOP
[14:16] <ColonelPanic001> KILL IT
[14:17] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: My favorites are the forum posts that have three posts. #1 is exactly the issue I'm having
[14:17] <snap-l> and the other two are "bump"
[14:17] <ColonelPanic001> yeah
[14:18] <ColonelPanic001> also have seen that.
[14:18] <snap-l> And by favorite, I mean that's when my soul dies a little bit more
[14:18] <ColonelPanic001> https://www.xkcd.com/978/
[14:18] <ColonelPanic001> also good
[14:19] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Yeah, I'm sure more than one book out there has been Wikipedia fodder
[14:19] <ColonelPanic001> I wish he mentioned which
[14:19] <ColonelPanic001> I bet it's that one guy. Crap, forgot his name
[14:20] <ColonelPanic001> looking
[14:21] <ColonelPanic001> bah, I have no idea. Older asian guy with shoulder length hair
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> somehow, everytime I read the title of a book of his, it either sounds overly "pop" for pop science, or just.. suspicious
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> Michio Kaku
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> there it is
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Michio_Kaku
[14:23] <snap-l> Michio
[14:23] <snap-l> Bah, you beat me to the answer
[14:23] <snap-l> was reading top-down
[14:24] <snap-l> I'm wondering  if xkcd means something like those business books that purport to be science
[14:24] <snap-l> or based in science
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> business books?
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> "The One Minute Manager... with Physics"
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> I <3 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/James_Burke_%28science_historian%29
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> mainly just because I f'ing loved Connections
[14:25] <snap-l> "Here's the neuro-science of why you can't get up in the morning, based on a theory that you're brain feels you're instead running from alligators"
[14:25] <ColonelPanic001> ah
[14:25] <snap-l> And her'es why coffee is bad for you, reason 101
[14:26]  * ColonelPanic001 sips his french vanilla cappuccino
[14:26] <snap-l> AND WHO MOVED MY GODDAMN CHEESE
[14:29] <ColonelPanic001> must be some very good cheese
[14:30] <brousch> crazy stuff http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2011/11/17/physicists-create-light-from-nothingness/
[14:31] <snap-l> So Forbes does science when it's convenient to do so? :)
[14:32] <brousch> must be a slow business and finance news day
[14:33] <snap-l> I passed it along to JoDee
[14:34] <snap-l> Let's just say the big print exciteth, and the little print diminisheth
[14:34] <_stink_> hah
[14:34] <_stink_> yes
[14:35] <_stink_> that headline writer should be ashamed.
[14:36] <_stink_> science reporting sucks so bad.
[14:36] <snap-l> JoDee totally agrees
[14:36] <snap-l> It's the equivlent of "A PRESIDENT DIES! FIND OUT WHICH ONE!"
[14:36] <_stink_> lulz
[14:36] <_stink_> yeah
[14:39] <ColonelPanic001> _stink_: yer one of them scientists. What's a decent place to read science news? As in, essentially pop-science. Serious, accurate stuff, but stuff I'll understand, at least well enough to look up background or ask about on my own.
[14:39] <_stink_> this is very sad
[14:39] <_stink_> but i honestly have no clue
[14:40] <_stink_> i can ask around
[14:40]  * ColonelPanic001 checks his often neglected RSS reader
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> http://www.ucsusa.org/
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> http://www.newscientist.com/
[14:40] <snap-l> physicsworld.com
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> http://www.sciencenews.org/
[14:40] <snap-l> (so sayeth the JoDee)
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> your opinion on those would be great
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> snap-l: thanks, I'll add it
[14:40] <Wolfger> readable by the common man, yet accurate info? I don't think it exists. :-p
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> QUIET, NAYSAYER
[14:41] <Wolfger> nay
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> sayer
[14:41] <_stink_> ucsusa.org seems political.
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> it is
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> maybe nevermind that one
[14:41] <snap-l> Skeptic's Guide to the Universe also has a lot of science on it
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> not really 'science news'
[14:41] <_stink_> newscientist.com smells funky, but i'll dig deeper
[14:42] <ColonelPanic001> I added these just on a whim, so feel free to tear them apart.
[14:42] <ColonelPanic001> I'm not a "fan" of any of them
[14:42] <_stink_> physicsworld.com looks very good, but is narrow.
[14:42] <ColonelPanic001> it's narrow, but that's what RSS readers are for. heh
[14:42] <snap-l> astrobites is also good
[14:42] <_stink_> sciencenews.org wins because of the hilarious front page picture and caption
[14:42] <snap-l> but it's extremely narrow.
[14:43] <Wolfger> "if you were able to spin a mirror at speeds close to the speed of light, then the mirror would convert virtual photons into actual photons" .... so, the headline should be "Physicists [Can] Create Light From Nothingness [in Theory]"
[14:44] <ColonelPanic001> CNN.com: "PHYSICISTS CLAIM TO BE GOD"
[14:44] <snap-l> You're also using the physicist version of the word "light"
[14:44] <_stink_> the subtitle on physicsworld.com is the right one: "Physicists convert virtual photons into real ones"
[14:45] <_stink_> which is boring, i guess
[14:46] <_stink_> http://www.sciencenews.org/view/access/id/336322/title/sm_vole-mokkonen2HR.jpg
[14:46] <_stink_> c'mon that is funny
[14:47] <snap-l> That seriously need some captions
[14:48] <ColonelPanic001> agreed
[14:49] <snap-l> I'm starting to think the Squeezebox server is not nearly as random as it claims
[14:49] <snap-l> three times this week it's recommended "The Buck Pets - Mercuritones"
[14:50] <snap-l> which either means that the algorithm isn't that great, or the Squeezebox feels that was a decent, but rather overlooked 1990s album.
[14:50] <snap-l> Which means my Squeezebox is a fucking music hipster
[14:50] <_stink_> probably
[14:51] <ColonelPanic001> awesome. someone has some musical crap over here
[14:52] <snap-l> Want some recommendations?
[15:00] <brousch> snap-l: i got the care box the other day. thanks
[15:00] <snap-l> brousch: Awesome.
[15:00] <snap-l> Did everything show up OK?
[15:00] <brousch> looks like it
[15:01] <snap-l> Cool. I was a little worried it might have scuffed up things.
[15:09] <brousch> snap-l: did you like Tyson Boogie?
[15:09] <brousch> a couple seemed OK
[15:10] <brousch> crap, forgot my headphones today
[15:10] <snap-l> brousch: I listened to it a bit
[15:10] <snap-l> Their description confuses me, though
[15:11] <snap-l> I'm hoping they're not indirectly covering AC/DC. :)
[15:11]  * snap-l tries not to play covers on the show
[15:52] <ColonelPanic001> I just looked at reallifecomics.com for the first time in ages
[15:52] <ColonelPanic001> wtf he has a kid
[15:52] <snap-l> Yep
[15:53] <ColonelPanic001> I missed so much :\
[15:53] <snap-l> You weren't watching close enough
[15:53] <snap-l> he went and got married and had a kid all in that time
[15:53] <snap-l> It's YOUR FAULT.
[15:53] <ColonelPanic001> I think I remember him getting married, don't remember
[17:30] <Wolfger> Awesome. I just loaded some media in Dolphin browser on my Android, and the progress bar started out at NAN%
[17:30] <Wolfger> then went up to 0% and on through 100% as expected.
[17:33] <Wolfger> what was the name of the service I used to use that tries to tie all your social networks together? (not that I expect anybody to *know* which one *I* used, but with a few guesses I should see and recognize the right one)
[17:34] <ColonelPanic001> firefox
[17:35] <Wolfger> service, not app :-p
[17:35] <Wolfger> ColonelPanic001 gets a fail for the day
[17:36] <ColonelPanic001> Firefox sync
[17:38] <Blazeix> plaxo?
[17:38] <Blazeix> that's the only one i know of
[17:40] <snap-l> ping.fm?
[17:40] <Wolfger> ping, yes!
[17:40] <Wolfger> Thank you
[17:40]  * snap-l pats himself on the head.
[17:41] <Wolfger> Google suggested posterous and slideshare
[17:41] <snap-l> plaxo? Isn't that a prescription drug? :)
[17:48] <Blazeix> ping? isn't that apple's social network?
[17:53] <Wolfger> ping.fm predated Apple's ping by quite a bit
[17:53] <Wolfger> or maybe apple bought it out. i don't know. I pay little attention to what Apple does.
[17:56] <greg-g> not bought out, separatethings
[17:56] <greg-g> unlike my words
[18:16] <Wolfger> lol
[18:32] <brousch> snap-l: d00d, i just listened to omc ep 20. best. omc. evar.
[18:32] <brousch> live from penguicon
[18:33] <greg-g> oh right, with the new install, and no easy way to transfer radio stations/podcasts from one banshee install to another, I failed to resub to lococast/omc :(
[18:35] <brousch> well that was an old one that i missed. i have them queued up
[18:44] <snap-l> brousch: thanks. :)
[18:47] <snap-l> greg-g: Spread the love as well. Trying to grow the shows. :)
[18:48] <greg-g> snap-l: will do, I redent/tweet when I can :)
[18:49] <snap-l> Much appreciated.
[18:49] <snap-l> I'm sure the folks at the CC offices don't just listen to drum circles. ;)
[18:50] <greg-g> haha, not many metal heads, unfortunately
[18:50] <brousch> new age hippiy crap
[18:55] <Wolfger> what exactly is new age hippy music?
[18:56] <Wolfger> I mean it used to be Dylan and Joplin and Hendrix...
[18:56] <brousch> whale songs and gurgling water
[18:57] <Wolfger> ah, exactly as I thought.... just making crap up again. :-)
[19:00] <brousch> as usual
[19:01] <snap-l> It's the sound of whales yelling at each other overlaid with pan flute and harp.
[19:02] <brousch> that's much too violent
[19:02] <snap-l> do you speak whale?
[19:02] <brousch> it is the sound of whales making love in the deep while dryads and nymphs cheer them on
[19:03] <Wolfger> dryads live in forests....
[19:03] <Wolfger> definitely not deep-dwelling cretures
[19:03] <Wolfger> :-p
[19:04]  * Wolfger wonders what exactly a hippy looks/acts like in brousch's mind
[19:04] <brousch> so what's a dryad called that lives in a kelp forest?
[19:04] <Wolfger> *sigh*
[19:05] <Wolfger> a mermaid
[19:05] <Wolfger> dryads are tree spirits dammit
[19:05] <Wolfger> kelp "forest" nonwithstanding
[19:06] <Wolfger> sirens perhaps is what you're thinking of
[19:07] <brousch> i'm not thinking of anything. i'm making crap up
[19:07] <brousch> you're putting entirely too much thought into this thing
[19:09] <Wolfger> and thus Hannity and Limbaugh are explained. Don't think, just make crap up. :-)
[19:09] <snap-l> My mother was a dryad.
[19:17] <snap-l> btw: new cloudkicker album dropped
[19:17] <snap-l> two, actually.
[19:32] <ColonelPanic001> WAT
[19:32] <ColonelPanic001> must aquire.
[19:39] <Wolfger> vimhelp!
[19:40]  * Wolfger waits for rick_h_ to swoop in from out of nowhere
[19:40] <rick_h_> don't ask to ask...just ask :P
[19:40] <ColonelPanic001> he did ask. to sak.
[19:40] <ColonelPanic001> ask.
[19:40] <Wolfger> :set wm=80 does nothing.... :set wm=78 issues a new line after every whitespace
[19:41] <Wolfger> what am I doing wrong?
[19:41] <rick_h_> use tw
[19:41] <rick_h_> wm is based on the current window size, no current text
[19:41] <Wolfger> what is tw?
[19:41] <rick_h_> textwidth
[19:41] <Wolfger> ok
[19:41] <rick_h_> :help wm and :help tw
[19:43] <Wolfger> oh. Duh. wm is from the right border, not left. I misread that. Or rather, my brain ignored what I read in favor of what I expected.
[19:43] <Wolfger> thanks
[19:43] <rick_h_> np
[19:48] <Wolfger> freshly armed with :help, /me heads back into the fray
[19:53] <ColonelPanic001> Let Yourself Be Huge is pretty good
[20:04] <snap-l> Yeah, it's definitely a differnet album
[20:07] <ColonelPanic001> THERE BE VOCALS IN THIS HERE CLOUDKICKER
[20:08] <snap-l> release the hounds
[20:08] <ColonelPanic001> with bees in their mouths
[20:09] <rick_h_> Blazeix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCexiX_eUJA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1 YUI MVC fun
[20:11] <ColonelPanic001> I don't like ever mentioning an author in code comments, because svn/git/etc does that anyway, and often there's plenty of people that alter the code. can't list them all.
[20:11] <ColonelPanic001> thoughts?
[20:11] <snap-l> agree
[20:11] <_stink_> you are trying to take all the crdit
[20:11] <_stink_> credit
[20:12] <rick_h_> ColonelPanic001: +1, don't make crap in comments I don't care about
[20:12] <ColonelPanic001> nah, it's just for example, here in grades.php. What is Eric edits it? Am I stil the "author"? Of what parts?
[20:12] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Also, it depends on if this is code that's being exposed to the rest of the world
[20:12] <snap-l> or if the license demands credit (aka: the XFree license)
[20:13] <_stink_> right, just teach people git blame
[20:13] <snap-l> There needs to be a git bless
[20:13] <snap-l> blame for "who broke the $%%&%^& build"
[20:13] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[20:13] <snap-l> Bless to turn people into objects in Perl. ;)
[20:13] <snap-l> Um, n/ms
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> I give up.
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> find . -name "*.php" works
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> I want to add to that, "-exec php -l;"
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[20:54] <ColonelPanic001> I've tried all kinds of variations on that
[20:54] <ColonelPanic001> halp
[20:55] <ColonelPanic001> _stink_ fixed it
[20:55] <ColonelPanic001> needed a trailing, \, seems
[20:55] <ColonelPanic001> find . -name "*.php" -exec php -l {} \;
[20:56] <snap-l> yes
[20:56] <snap-l> You can also use xargs
[20:57] <_stink_> heh
[20:57] <snap-l> find . -name "*.php" -print0 | xargs -0 php -l
[20:57] <snap-l> I believe that's equivalent, and will also null-pad spaces.
[20:57] <_stink_> ColonelPanic001: I TOLD YOU TO ASK HERE
[20:58] <ColonelPanic001> nah, the xargs method is how I started try to do it, and it gave me problems
[20:58] <ColonelPanic001> I'm not picky
[21:00] <snap-l> Well, my most random e-mail of the day:
[21:00] <snap-l> SOme seminar for getting my resume read by recruiters
[21:00] <snap-l> Sponsored by my company
[21:00] <snap-l> I think they're telling me something
[21:00] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[21:01] <ColonelPanic001> I wonder if I could make vim run php -l on a php files whenever I save it. I may try this after a bathroom break
[21:01] <snap-l> it was a meeting notice
[21:04] <rick_h_> Blazeix: you around this weekend? Would love to pick your brain on this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rharding/launchpad/bugfix_891735/view/head:/lib/lp/contrib/javascript/yui3-gallery/gallery-text-expander/gallery-text-expander.js
[21:04] <rick_h_> basically rehacked the heck of a plugin that needed help
[21:04] <rick_h_> but it's friday and I'm missing an easier way to do the resize on deleting I think
[22:47] <Blazeix> rick_h_: hey, I'll be around. I haven't examined the yui text expander code yet, but did you see this recent alistapart article? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/expanding-text-areas-made-elegant/
[23:56] <rick_h_> Blazeix: yea, I changed some of the old plugin based on that
[23:56] <rick_h_> like the move from the keyup event to the valueChange YUI event
[23:56] <rick_h_> but didn't go all the way to the dual html element setup
[23:58] <Blazeix> any particular reason? it looks like the old plugin code assumes 60 char width, is a bit hacky
[23:58] <rick_h_> heh, that's my change
[23:58] <rick_h_> the old plugin code actually set the height to 1 line tall, and then reexpanded it
[23:58] <rick_h_> I added the 60char test to try to avoid flashing it all the way to nothing and back again
[23:58] <rick_h_> which is what I wanted to chat about
[23:59] <rick_h_> the negative of the list apart stuff is the double elements
[23:59] <rick_h_> I was trying to work with just keeping the single textarea
[23:59] <rick_h_> oops, family over afk for a while


[01:30] <waf1> shakes808 left? rick_h_ cmaloney for http://royaloak.coffeehousecoders.com/ , it's a gh-pages served by https://github.com/coffeehousecoders/royaloak.coffeehousecoders.com
[02:17] <cmaloney> waf: Thanks!
[11:03] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:16] <rick_h_> morning
[11:49] <_stink_> yo
[14:44] <greg-g> telnet telnet.wmflabs.org
[14:44] <greg-g> seriously
[14:45] <jrwren> can I netcat 23 insted?
[14:46] <jrwren> omg greg-g this is awesome.
[14:47] <greg-g> :)
[14:47] <greg-g> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-03-30/Technology_report
[17:04] <_stink_> greg-g: this is crazy!
[17:05] <greg-g> :)


[05:08] <Hello_world> hello
[05:08] <Hello_world> I need help
[10:36] <telesius> Hello
[10:37] <cfhowlett> greetings telesius
[10:38] <telesius> Happy New Year !
[21:24] <amanojaku> Hi, I cannot seem to run third party applications like Lightworks and Shotcut. I get a message that Ubuntu has an internal error and/or Segmentation Fault core dump
[21:24] <amanojaku> I am running 14.04 LTS
[21:24] <amanojaku> Do you think I should install a later version of Ubuntu, vanilla ubuntu or just reinstall?


[15:22] <xu-irc83w> Hi! On my system, apt can not install wine without removing xubuntu-coreRegarding the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/1898947would you say that the bug report has been filed against the correct package?
[16:49] <whtemple1959> hello room. I have upgraded from 18 to 20. I have an amd rysen 5, 16 gb ram, amd radeon rx 590. I keep geeting this red screen of death and the only way to clear it is to reboot. Is there some one who can explain this to me and how to fix it?
[16:52] <diogenes_> red screed of death?
[16:54] <whtemple1959> red diagonal lines running through the window
[16:56] <diogenes_> whitright after the upgrade?
[17:04] <whtemple1959> yes
[17:07] <diogenes_> whtemple1959, try: xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -t string -s "glx" --create
[17:10] <whtemple1959> forgive my ignorance. will this hopefully fix the problem or give report as to what is causing it?
[17:11] <diogenes_> probably fix.
[17:18] <whtemple1959> well I did not get any errors when I did that so we shall see. No now when I have Thunderbird open the lines are cyan. rebooting
[17:24] <whtemple1959> when I satrt Steam shorty after I get a whitish screen with redish diagonal lines
[17:26] <whtemple1959> the strange thing is I am not having this problem on my old hp pavilion
[17:28] <diogenes_> whtemple1959, then try a new user and also try with compositing off.
[17:28] <whtemple1959> again my ignorance how do I start it with composting off?
[17:30] <diogenes_> whtemple1959, settings > window manager tweaks > compositing turn it off.
[17:32] <whtemple1959> and here I thought I was going to spend the day building a RasPiNAS
[17:35] <whtemple1959> well turning compositing off did not work. let me try a different user
[17:45] <whtemple1959> so, I just had vlc, firefox, thunar, and pulse running simultaneously. and nothing happened but as soon as I started Steam I got the screen
[17:50] <whtemple1959> well it is not steam related as I just rebooted and as soon as the window came up it faulted
[17:59] <whtemple1959> thanks diogenes_ I will go post in the forum and see if any one has a clue as to how to fix this
[19:25] <xu-irc81w> holi


[00:16] <Ethernin> Hey guys, anyone played with multitouch stuff on Nexus 7 running ubuntu?
[00:16] <Ethernin> when i search the repos for multitouch i find:
[00:16] <Ethernin> xserver-xorg-input-mtrack - Multitouch X input driver
[00:16] <Ethernin> xserver-xorg-input-multitouch - Multitouch X input driver
[00:17] <Ethernin> also wondering if magick-rotation is worth the trouble?
[00:17] <Ethernin> would be siiiiiiick
[00:17] <Ethernin> I've got things running pretty darn well with XFCE4, but it would be nice to actually use the touch screen effeciently
[00:18] <Ethernin> one of the problems is by default you can drag the windows around or maximize or close the windows via touchscreen....
[00:18] <Ethernin> which is pretty lame considering it works so well in gnome-classic and lxde ect
[00:21] <Ethernin> holla?
[00:25] <Tassadar> don't worry, there are people still awake and coding, but as for me, I did not really tried multitouch on n7)
[00:25] <Tassadar> *haven't...dammit 1AM
[00:37] <Ethernin> lol
[00:37] <Ethernin> right on thanks man
[00:37] <Ethernin> Tassadar, it's usually 1am here and im the only one ranting!
[00:37] <Ethernin> lol
[00:38] <Ethernin> yeah i saw some sweet links of people using it, not on the Nexus7 but i thought id give it a try
[00:38] <Ethernin> going to look up the system requirements to see if it's even doable
[00:38] <Ethernin> but i figure it should be
[00:38] <Tassadar> it must, on android it can handle up to 10 fingers
[00:39] <Tassadar> or at least 10 fingers, because I don't have any more to test
[00:39] <Ethernin> hahahaha
[00:39] <Ethernin> totally
[00:40] <Ethernin> i've been messing with a lot of different desktop environments trying to find one that's both stable and usable
[00:40] <Ethernin> unity is just too damn slow, and i haven't been able to get unity2d to work
[00:41] <lilstevie> Ethernin, there isn't really much point in those packages, evdev does multitouch, you just need a wm that supports it
[00:41] <lilstevie> unity2d doesn't exist anymore
[00:41] <Ethernin> i did however try, xfce4, lxde, and gnome-classic via fallback
[00:41] <Ethernin> yeah no kidding
[00:42] <Ethernin> not in raring that's for sure
[00:42] <Zero_Chaos> evdev does multitouch? but how to enable it?
[00:42] <Ethernin> evdev?
[00:42] <Zero_Chaos> Ethernin: it's the main keyboard and mouse xorg driver
[00:42] <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, you don't need to enable it, it already tracks multiple fingers
[00:43] <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, you need a part of the windows manager to track
[00:43] <Zero_Chaos> lilstevie: ahh
[00:43] <Ethernin> lilstevie, awesome what part of the windows manager ?
[00:44] <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, or something like utouch-geis
[00:44] <lilstevie> Ethernin, I'm not sure, I don't care enough
[00:45] <Ethernin> lilstevie, sweet, ill look around
[00:45] <Zero_Chaos> Ethernin: search for utouch and have fun.
[00:45] <Zero_Chaos> Ethernin: I'm going to five guys
[00:45] <Zero_Chaos> :-)
[00:45] <Ethernin> hahaha nice Zero_Chaos
[00:46] <Zero_Chaos> bbiaf
[00:46] <Ethernin> Zero_Chaos, yeah going to take a break myself
[00:46] <Ethernin> Zero_Chaos, ill be back in a bit
[00:48] <Ethernin> ah yes, xserver-xorg-input-multitouch - Multitouch X input driver comes up
[03:09] <davecheney> why does zentiy installer use 100% cpu while running ?
[03:09] <davecheney> is this ia bug
[03:09] <davecheney> or just one of those things ?
[03:12] <davecheney> lp #1077973
[03:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1077973 in ubuntu-nexus7 "zenity consumes about 100% CPU when installing Ubuntu on nexus 7" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077973
[03:22] <davecheney> after flashing with the 1.7 installer to raring
[03:23] <davecheney> and waiting for the disk resize to complete
[03:23] <davecheney> i am greated with random video corruption
[03:23] <davecheney> just static on the screen
[03:23] <davecheney> any suggestions ?
[13:00] <Julle131> I'm trying to make a kernel boot android 4.1 and Ubuntu. Got any tips? I'm a beginner.
[13:01] <Julle131> There is a kernel that can boot Ubuntu for my device, and a kernel that can boot 4.1. But no kernel that can do them both.
[13:02] <lilstevie> some things required for android break ubuntu, and vice versa
[13:05] <Julle131> Well, I keep looking then. I don't know does these matter, but the board is OMAP 4460 and kernel version is 3.0.8+ for both kernels.