[00:01] <avis-> how to i use google talk with ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:01] <avis-> on pidgin
[00:07] <YankDownUnder> avis-: You can't anymore. Google changed the protocols.
[00:08] <R13ose> I am using Chrome and want a way a button that allows me to automatically sort my bookmarks into folders that are similar.  Any ideas on how to do that?
[00:09] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: Have you looked in the associated Google groups online for that? They've got a huge "wiki" for that stuff...
[00:10] <ubuntu_fail> Bashing-om: sorry, got bumped off the net. looks like with the basic "load" it works fine - I'm going to retry it to make sure it's consistently so. The DPI thing is not as important. what I wonder is if we can compare syslog or some other log file and see a difference in modules that break it
[00:10] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: I looked and didn't find anything yet.
[00:10] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: Um...you do know that this is the Ubuntu support forum, right?
[00:10] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: yes but besides Google Groups where on IRC can I get help with this?
[00:11] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: That I'm honestly not sure of...
[00:12] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: There *is* a channel -> #chrome
[00:12] <Bashing-om> ubuntu_fail: Think'n .. Just a bit over my skill level .
[00:12] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: yep I will ask there
[00:14] <crafty1> R13ose: Beyond that there is no native way to do this as far as I know
[00:14] <R13ose> thanks
[00:14] <crafty1> How would a program know which bookmarks are "similar"
[00:15] <michaelrose> hey have reason to believe this issue is a ubuntu bug
[00:15] <ubuntu_fail> Bashing-om: Hmmm.... I treid the game back (haven't rebooted yet) and the frame rate is down to 7
[00:15] <michaelrose> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1345585, my experience is that at reboot /etc/X11/xorg.conf is moved to xorg.conf.date
[00:15] <YankDownUnder> There's like heaps of extensions and "thingos" for dealing with bookmarks in Chrome...just a matter of experimentation - and as well, if one is creative enough, there's a means by which to directly modify the text file(s) that contain the bookmarks...but I digress...it's not really an Ubuntu thingo, is it...
[00:15] <R13ose> crafty1: based on either the title or the url.
[00:16] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: you are right and I asked in the other room
[00:16] <Bashing-om> ubuntu_fail: Now that makes little sense .. what is going on that loads the system down so ? does 'top' shed any light on system resource consumption ?
[00:18] <ubuntu_fail> Bashing-om: no real CPU usage; compiz is using 500Mb RAM, but its a 16Gb system
[00:18] <R13ose> moving to next room, bye bye
[00:21] <ubuntu_fail> Bashing-om: systemctl stop networkmanager.service didn't improve things... I'll reboot to see if I can make it fast again
[00:22] <pokeyeball> i was trying to remove encryption on my home folder and i made backup and then deleted my home folder from a root guest profile but i must have messed up because it says my backup file doesnt exist,
[00:22] <pokeyeball> anyway to create a new home folder so i can login? i was following this guide http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[00:26] <ubuntu_fail> Bashing-om: Argh. So I rebotted and brought up systemctl isolate graphical.target, and now the frame rate is 5-10fps....
[00:26] <ubuntu_fail> Bashing-om: this is like when I uninstalled virtualbox - it must have reset some parameter or other, but it gets screwed up on the next reboot
[00:27] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu_fail: Wait a tick - everything you're doing is inside Virtualbox?
[00:28] <michaelrose> specifically can anyone shed light on why /var/lib/info/nvidia-prime.postrm would be run on a system that is just rebooting on a system that doesn't have a switchable gpu
[00:28] <ubuntu_fail> YankDownUnder: no - it's a clean 16.04 install (yesterday we noted I had an old version of virtualbox, and I unsistalled it thinking it may cause problems via dkms or whatever) - but it's an ubuntu system (dual boot)
[00:28] <sh0t> hi guys
[00:29] <YankDownUnder> ubuntu_fail: Fair enough, fair enough - just saw "Virtualbox" and my mind went along that path...
[00:29] <sh0t> i am trying to install the module for my Real tek wireless
[00:29] <sh0t> i run these commands
[00:29] <sh0t> http://pastebin.com/vxfPmEGL
[00:29] <sh0t> but at the boot if i do modprobe rt3290sta it says that's impossible to find the key
[00:29] <sh0t> even though at the boot i proceed in registering the key
[00:31] <sh0t> can anyone help me please?
[00:31] <YankDownUnder> sh0t: Paitence.
[00:31] <crafty1> !patience | sh0t
[00:32] <sh0t> i just felt i was rude not asking "please..." i get it
[00:33] <YankDownUnder> sh0t: In the course of 24 hours, there are hundreds of folks that pass through the channels...patience is the best tool/weapon...someone will know how to resolve your issue...hmm...have a cup and relax...all is good
[00:52] <michaelrose> Basically var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-prime.postrm is run at upgrade or install of nvidia-prime and deletes xorg.conf
[00:52] <michaelrose> this is basically ridiculous
[00:52] <m4xx> for some reason any time i reboot my raid needs to resync
[00:52] <michaelrose> man I really hate ubuntu
[00:53] <michaelrose> you really have to dig to find out what magic behavior is breaking everything
[00:54] <michaelrose> people knock more manual setups because they take more time and expertise, how much time and expertise is required to debug magic nonsense
[00:54] <YankDownUnder> michaelrose: Um...you do know that "xorg.conf" is setup differently now, right?
[00:55] <michaelrose> define setup differently?
[00:56] <m4xx> i saw on google to try adding "mdadm --wait-clean --scan" to a shutdown script somewhere but i'm not sure where to but it on ubuntu 16.04
[00:56] <YankDownUnder> michaelrose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[00:56] <ericx2x> hey guys, i just made a web server using ubuntu on my laptop. I'm afraid my laptop may die as I host my site. I simply want to figure out some way to back up my server so that if it goes down I can purchase a new server and rerun the items that were on my laptop
[00:56] <YankDownUnder> m4xx: Being that you're dealing with a RAID system, have you though to ask in the #ubuntu-server channel?
[00:56] <ericx2x> anyone have any ideas on how to ensure my server data isn't lost?
[00:56] <m4xx> negative
[00:57] <michaelrose> I know you can put stuff in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> ericx2x: Lookinto how to backup your apache stuff => there's ample information for that.
[00:57] <michaelrose> this isn't a good reason to manually delete someones xorg.conf
[00:57] <m4xx> thank you
[00:57] <michaelrose> much less do it every time a package is updated
[00:57] <ericx2x> I'm not using apache i'm using nginx
[00:57] <ericx2x> its a rails app
[00:57] <ericx2x> but i can easily backup my site
[00:57] <ericx2x> i was wondering if i could backup my entire server though
[00:58] <ericx2x> so i can easily deploy it on a new laptop if my current one dies
[00:58] <YankDownUnder> ericx2x: There are heaps of different methods for doing complete backups...system-wide and otherwise.
[00:59] <YankDownUnder> ericx2x: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[01:00] <crafty1> Yeah thats an extremely broad question asking how to backup datae
[01:00] <crafty1> I mean you could use tape drives, you could use an offsite backup; the list goes on and on and isnt specific to an OS
[01:00] <YankDownUnder> For *me*, on some systems - depending on the size - I generally dd stuff...but that's me...
[01:00] <ericx2x> dd?
[01:01] <ericx2x> anyone used vagrant before?
[01:01] <OerHeks> !backup
[01:01] <crafty1> CloneZilla is pretty cool
[01:01] <OerHeks> !clone
[01:01] <YankDownUnder> ericx2x: Open a term and type "man dd"
[01:01] <m4xx> seems dead in there :(
[01:01] <ericx2x> im on my windows machine right now :\
[01:01] <ericx2x> so i can't
[01:02] <YankDownUnder> ericx2x: On the web, type "dd+manual" => you'll see what I mean.
[01:02] <Finetundra> Hey folks, Anyone know any good local file sharing softwares for linux similar to samba?
[01:02] <OerHeks> just use clonezilla to 'dd' your drive
[01:02] <YankDownUnder> I used to love the ancient tape drives and tar...
[01:02] <OerHeks>  /dev/fd0
[01:03] <Gribo> Why do a lot of people have a $ as their computer name in the terminal?
[01:03] <YankDownUnder> Gribo: Part of the bash prompt setup.
[01:03] <paranoidabhi> Gribo, you should learn bash.
[01:03] <ericx2x> sounds good thanks guys
[01:04] <hggdh> ericx2x: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Gribo: That '$' indicates user level system access .. whereas '#" indicates root access .
[01:04] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:04] <YankDownUnder> And here all these years I thought the "$" was to show how much money you're saving by not running a Microsoft OS...far out... ;)
[01:05] <Gribo> Why don't I see it in my terminal though?
[01:05] <Gribo> Nvm lol
[01:08] <crafty1> Finetundra: If you dont have any specific set of requirements NFS is similar.  Samba is commonly used to communicate with non-UNIX machines.
[01:09] <Finetundra> Thanks crafty1, I'll check it out
[01:22] <michaelrose> emailed maintainer of package https://gist.github.com/aea06145b72d0cc59b996f5e1c318bc3
[01:25] <OerHeks> oh, mint has its own issues
[01:28] <crafty1> Yeah gott\a love those bugs that have been unassigned for 2 years
[01:29] <michaelrose> that unassigned but regarding this very issue is 2 years old and unassigned
[01:29] <michaelrose> because its not a bug per se its apparantly people are too stupid to go use /user/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:30] <michaelrose> despite the fact that /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still perfectly valid and shouldn't be randomly bulldozed
[01:30] <michaelrose> its actually hard to imagine what the developer was even thinking
[01:31] <crafty1> What is this NVIDIA-prime package.  Can you email the maintainer https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime
[01:31] <michaelrose> its a package that provides support for switchable gpus
[01:31] <crafty1> Oh OK I think you had mentioned.  I wish the packages had summations on pages like that
[01:31] <michaelrose> some laptops have a beefy nvidia gpu and a weaker say intel integrated one
[01:31] <crafty1> Literally all of its bugs are untouched as to the priority.
[01:31] <crafty1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[01:32] <crafty1> oh ok that makes perfect sense
[01:32] <michaelrose> and you want to use the weak one when not doing anything that would require a lot of oomf
[01:32] <crafty1> There are other bugs if you check that list that are from 2014.  TBH it seems the maintainer has vanished
[01:48] <ax562> how can I change grub boot order in dual boot machine setup?
[01:49] <Tin_man> ax562, http://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/
[01:50] <crafty1> There used to be a fronted that was cool.  Cant remember the name.  But that article is good.
[01:50] <crafty1> Might be the GRUB customizer
[01:52] <ax562> is it this one crafty1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order#100246
[01:53] <crafty1> ax562: Yes.
[01:53] <crafty1> Its the same thing its just a nice GUI frontend
[01:54] <michaelrose> its funny how complicated the generated grub.cfg is
[01:55] <ax562> crafty1 yes I agree
[01:55] <michaelrose> instead of a manual one that is 12 lines long in which you can change boot order but cutting and pasting sections
[02:16] <Trinity> if I encrypt ubuntu with full disk encryption will I still be able to search files via grep?
[02:17] <Trinity> what i'm really wondering is the mechanism behind the encryption. Does it decrypt everything when you enter in the passphrase or is the passphrase remembered and used independently for every program?
[02:17] <tgm4883> Trinity: yes you can search files via grep
[02:17] <SchrodingersScat> Trinity: it's mostly transparent after you've decrypted the disk
[02:17] <ax562> Are you thee Trinity? (In my Neo voice) :p
[02:18] <Trinity> SchrodingersScat, would you mind elaborating on what 'mostly transparent' means?
[02:19] <de-facto> i guess you decrypt the key used for transparent disk encryption/decryption when you enter a passphrase, but thats just a guess
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> Trinity: that all the files appear unencrypted once you're logged in.  so if you grep a file then it'll grep.  Of course that reverses whenever you haven't supplied the passphrase yet.
[02:21] <crafty1> michaelrose: I agree completely.  I ran Gentoo for about a year a few years ago, prior to losing my mind and the user generated grub cfgs are great.
[02:21] <crafty1> Its great when the user can generate those because if something goes wrong its easier to resolve
[02:21] <michaelrose> To be entirely clear the disk itself remains encrypted forever, the encryption is usually on a layer entirely below the file system thus only THIS layer worries about encrypting and decrypting
[02:21] <michaelrose> and this happens in memory
[02:22] <Trinity> ah, thank you michaelrose and SchrodingersScat
[02:23] <Trinity> michaelrose, if it's not too much to ask... :) would you mind elaborating on layers below the file system? haha :)
[02:24] <Trinity> cause i'd think that the file is saved as it's encrypted version and decrypted post passphrase
[02:24] <michaelrose> it varies there are different approaches, in some you have a fake filesystem on top of the real one, in some the filesystem knows about encryption and handles this, in others its handled by a different layer for example luks
[02:25] <Trinity> from my research it would seem that ubuntu's uses luks? what do you mean by a different layer? Would the encrypted content of the filesystem be unencrypted on the fly?
[02:25] <michaelrose> like ordinarily you create say an ext4 filesystem based on a physical device/partition, instead you can first create a special type of container and create the filesystem on top of that
[02:27] <michaelrose> whole disk encryption is normally done via luks, the disadvantage one key to unlock the device, one users files not secure from other users on the same machine
[02:27] <michaelrose> but that isn't usually an issue and it has way better performance than a filesystem on top of the real one like encfs
[02:27] <django_> hey all
[02:28] <michaelrose> anyway its a HUGE rabbit hole you could spend a lot of time on, in short use luks
[02:28] <django_> for ubuntu xenial do you download Wine with sudo apt-get install -y wine
[02:29] <Trinity> Maybe it would help for me to explain what I dont get more clearly. Since data is just 0's and 1's you would save a different set of 0's and 1's if the data is encrypted, so when you enter the passphrase I can only see two options, one the encrypted content is saved into RAM or two the encrypted content is decrypted and rewritten into the filesystem or three passphrase is remembered and decryption is on the fly. All three of these methods don't see
[02:29] <Trinity> m really pragmatic so i'm sure theres anotehr. But that's my current dilemma. I'm trying to understand how this is accomplished
[02:29] <Trinity> I can only see three options*
[02:30] <michaelrose> basically high level things like text editors and video players don't access files by reading raw data from disk
[02:30] <crafty1> django_: yes
[02:31] <crafty1> sudo apt-get install wine will install the metapackage
[02:31] <Trinity> michaelrose, could you give me the keyword by which they access raw data from disk so I can do my own research? :)
[02:32] <michaelrose> Trinity, coursera had a really good intro to encryption course let me see if its still there
[02:33] <michaelrose> https://www.coursera.org/learn/crypto
[02:33] <michaelrose> you needn't actually do the class or pay any money
[02:33] <michaelrose> just enroll in the class and watch as much as interests you
[02:33] <Trinity> thanks michaelrose, could you let me know how high level programs get information from the disk?
[02:36] <michaelrose> I really don't understand the low level aspect of it just the impression that a luks device is something like a physical disk saved that the raw data read therein is decrypted using a key
[02:37] <michaelrose> your passphrase isn't the key it serves to unlock it
[02:38] <michaelrose> essentially a small header contains one or more copies of the key which can be unlocked by one or more passphrases
[02:40] <michaelrose>  /etc/crypttab contains information about encypted devices, /etc/fstab contains information about filesystems including the forementioned encrpyted ones and how they are mounted
[02:41] <Trinity> michaelrose, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_mapper I think this is the middleman you were talking about :)
[02:50] <ax562> damn michael rose you sound like a smart dude
[02:54] <hackerhercules> Can anyone tell me what init.d script is responsible for writing the contents of /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available?
[03:15] <madsa> hackerhercules, try running 'dpkg -S /var/lib/update-notifier' which should give you a clue
[03:15] <madsa> will at least tell you which package owns that directory
[03:15] <madsa> and then you can figure out init script from there
[03:16] <hackerhercules> madsa Just the lead I needed, thank you. Trying to steal the function of the 90-updates-available script in /etc/update-motd.d to customize and format my motd with additional information
[03:25] <de-facto> is there some archive of older package versions in the repos somewhere?
[03:30] <hackerhercules> madsa Thanks again - tracked down the script it calls after doing some hunting
[03:30] <madsa> hackerhercules, cool, glad that helped
[03:32] <Kyoku> is there a way to show file transfer speed in ubuntu 16.04 desktop ?
[03:33] <Kyoku> it just shows progress bar, i need to see the speed
[03:37] <madsa> Kyoku, maybe try iftop or dstat packages
[03:37] <madsa> de-facto, what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:38] <madsa> de-facto, if you just need an old package you can try looking it up here: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <hackerhercules> madsa: Just for the fun of knowing, the update notification is called by /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable, which is a function passed to it from an imported compiled python file. Can't change it without a complete recompile. Sad day.
[03:46] <Kyoku> thanks madsa - dstat is perfect for the job
[03:55] <ahrc333ff> I keep getting a "register" message; I'm registered though. Any way to resolve this?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> ahrc333ff: Ask that in #freenode channel .
[03:57] <ahrc333ff> k. thx
[03:57] <ahrc333ff> but, i'm gettint eh message from #ubuntu-unregged, if it makes a difference
[04:01] <Bashing-om> !register | ahrc333ff Does this hlp ?
[04:02] <dancingdemon> hey guys, what is the best Music Tagging CL i can use for ubuntu ?
[04:03] <ahrc333ff> Thx. Unfortunately, when I reattempt the registration process i just get this message "You are already logged in as ahrc333ff." The only channel that gives me this problem is #ubuntu
[04:30] <Bashing-om> ahrc333ff: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-ops .
[04:39] <evade> exit
[04:39] <evade> close
[04:45] <delizin> Hey everyone. I am running a server using the screen command. Is there a way that I can set a monitor on it and automatically restart it if it crashes?
[04:48] <ahrc333ff> Bashing-om: thx, will do
[04:52] <madsa> delizin, you could try 'while 1; do mycommandtorun; done'
[04:53] <madsa> that should work if the server process doesn't daemonize
[04:53] <delizin> madsa: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. After I asked my question I found some documentation on Upstart and am giving that a try first
[04:54] <madsa> yeah, upstart may be the better option than my cheap and easy trick
[04:54] <orlock> madsa:  you forgot the vital step of running screen first
[04:55] <orlock> or adding a nohup
[04:56] <madsa> right, my assumption was that screen was already running, but yes
[05:14] <ahrc333ff> evening :)
[05:20] <gajop> hey, i'm having issues with 14.04 and 16.04, which I thought would be stable (LTS?)
[05:20] <gajop> i've setup a new work machine which i plan to use for deep learning stuff, and i'm running into issues with ubuntu; i'd think they're not specific to the hardware but you never know
[05:21] <madsa> gajop, what seems to be the problem?
[05:21] <gajop> with 16.04 there are even issues during installation: it complains midway that installation fails, but it also finishes, and when i reboot into it and try to login, nothing happens (i assume the installation is only half-way done)
[05:22] <gajop> so i gave up on 16.04 seeing as it may still be fairly untested due to being new, and tried 14.04, which i could install at least
[05:22] <madsa> have you tried the latest 16.04.1 iso?  It's out now
[05:22] <gajop> but 14.04 is freezing my system (kernel crash?) from time to time... i often get back to work when i leave it all night to see it restarted, and it sometimes crashes in front of me
[05:23] <gajop> right now i'm getting an "internal error" with linux package and a soft lockup of CPU#0 (KernelOops)
[05:23] <gajop> madsa: i haven't tried it if it just got released
[05:23] <madsa> well if nothing else works that be a good option
[05:24] <gajop> what is considered the "most stable" ubuntu platform? i rarely use it on my home desktop but opted for it because i thought it would be fairly guaranteed to work
[05:25] <FManTropyx> official releases aren't "untested"...
[05:25] <madsa> yep, I think 16.04.1 is most stable right now.  I personally haven't had much trouble with it on my laptop
[05:26] <gajop> is there a third alternative if neither work for me? how can i even troubleshoot kernel errors?
[05:26] <FManTropyx> sounds like your puter is b0rked - have you run something else on it before?
[05:26] <madsa> yeah, with a kernel error you'd be best to post a bug on launchpad with the details
[05:27] <madsa> hopefully it's not your hardware going bad
[05:27] <gajop> FManTropyx: no, as i said i just set it up
[05:27] <FManTropyx> a neew computer?
[05:27] <gajop> well it's still under guarantee but if i have no way to troubleshoot it..
[05:27] <gajop> correct
[05:27] <FManTropyx> ah, maybe run hw diagnostics on it
[05:28] <FManTropyx> Ubuntu should really work :)
[05:28] <madsa> gajop, what kind of computer is it? specs?
[05:29] <gajop> it's an i5 with titan x and 8GB RAM (with 32GB more on the way)
[05:29] <gajop> ubuntu's installed on an SSD
[05:29] <gajop> and i've got one more HDD for large storage
[05:30] <gajop> it's pretty beastly and nvidia should work well -> this doesn't seem related to the GFX anyway
[05:30] <Sorch> kernel version?
[05:30] <mndar> which package do i have to install to get gstreamer's rtspclientsink ?
[05:30] <gajop> idk, newest on 14.04
[05:30] <madsa> gajop, run 'uname -a' on the console
[05:31] <mndar> I'm using 16.04 LTS
[05:31] <gajop> 4.2.0-42-generic
[05:31] <OerHeks> titan X is introduced 3 days ago .. hard to believe you have it already :-D
[05:32] <gajop> GeForce GTX Titan X[56]	March 17, 2015
[05:32] <Sorch> ;o
[05:33] <gajop> not to be confused with: NVIDIA TITAN X[64]	August 2, 2016
[05:35] <Sorch> gajop, 12gb of video ram?
[05:36] <gajop> yea
[05:43] <OerHeks> gajop, i would do a memtest86 run first, to exclude your ram being the culprit
[05:43] <Dropbox> !ops
[05:43] <Dropbox> !ops
[05:43] <Dropbox> !ops
[05:43] <Dropbox> !ops
[05:43] <Dropbox> !ops
[05:45] <gajop> OerHeks: alright, i'll give it a try, any other tests i can run before trying 16.04.1 again or switching to some other distro?
[05:45] <OerHeks> after that, run a live iso and try checkbox-qt http://askubuntu.com/questions/389084/system-testing-tool-for-ubuntu or UBcd with testtools
[05:46] <OerHeks> as you have issues with both, it does not really matter now, 14.04 or 16.04.1
[05:47] <gajop> the 16.04 (didn't try 16.04.1) issue is completely different though imo
[05:47] <gajop> my PC didn't freeze/restart, the installation process got interrupted half way but still gave me the next install wizard option
[05:48] <madsa> yeah, hopefully they've made a fix for the installer w/ 16.04.1
[05:49] <madsa> only one way to find out
[05:49] <gajop> right, will try that tomorrow probably
[06:28] <Kartagis> how do I find out my wifi card's vendor id?
[06:29] <EriC^^> Kartagis: lspci -vvv maybe?
[06:29] <OerHeks> Kartagis, depends, lsusb or lspci for usb or pci cards
[06:31] <Kartagis> 03:00.0 <--- is this it?
[06:31] <EriC^^> i think so
[06:31] <Ben64> no
[06:31] <OerHeks> no, it is a 8 digit hexcode , A1B4:C067 or like that
[06:33] <EriC^^> try lspci -nv
[06:34] <mach20x> So about 24 hours later and still no progress on the reinstallation of Ubuntu
[06:34] <mach20x> It won't connect to the internet wirelessly either
[06:35] <madsa> mach20x, you not able to install for some reason?
[06:52] <Peppernrino> i'm having trouble installing drivers for 750ti on 14.04. i have done --no-x-check, and tried removing .X0-lock but i don't have permissions. any suggetions?
[06:52] <Peppernrino> +s
[06:56] <afotek> Hello. Is it possible to set up midnight commander to show number of items in a directory?
[06:57] <madsa> afotek, don't know... but you can run something like 'ls -1 | wc -l' from the command line to get an item count
[07:00] <afotek> madsa, yes, I tried this solution, but it would've been nice if it was able to show it in mini-status for example, like in usual explorer
[07:02] <Kartagis> weird though. pcidatabase.com reports different digits for my wifi card EriC^^
[07:04] <mach20x> Anyone have the 411 on reinstallation and what to do if it stalls?
[07:08] <nschoe> Hi everyone, I've got lots and lots of "ureadahead:4/stat: Ignored relative path" messages on my Ubuntu server 16.04, and hundreas more of ureqadhead errors. What is it?
[07:10] <madsa> nschoe, that's ureadahead, it does caching of files for boot time to speed things up
[07:11] <madsa> not sure why you're getting the errors though
[07:11] <nschoe> madsa, hum okay. But it is supposed to execute only on reboot, then?
[07:12] <nschoe> madsa, I'm asking because we've had a failure around midnight, and all our systems are down. but the serveru itself is up and runnig, I could log in ssh
[07:12] <nschoe> So now I'm planing find the needle in the haystack in the syslog, and I see literally hundreas od these lines
[07:13] <madsa> well according to the launchpad page, it says that it loads a cronjob to regenerate the cache from time to time
[07:13] <madsa> which may be what you're seeing
[07:13] <madsa> https://launchpad.net/ureadahead
[07:14] <madsa> sorry your systems are down... I feel your pain.  I got paged at 2am yesterday because out db server ran out of disk space :)
[07:15] <nschoe> madsa, ah thanks for your support
[07:16] <nschoe> This is appreciated. We currently don't have a sysadmin anymore, so I'm interim sysadmin. But this is not my job ^^
[07:16] <nschoe> madsa, I would have preferred being paged at 2 a.m. though, because I would have time to do things. Now it's 9 and the demo starts... soon. Of course it's a demo day, you know hos this is.
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> nschoe: Just for giggles and grins - has an "fsck" been run on the volume(s) of that server recently?
[07:31] <nschoe> YankDownUnder, nope, the server is about a month old
[07:31] <nschoe> YankDownUnder, why? You think this may have messed something, OR I should have run one before?
[07:43] <YankDownUnder> nschoe: Since you've stated that "things went down" - generally, when I'm faced with issues like that, the first thing I do on linux/unix boxes is to check the filesystems before going back into production...just as a matter of rote...small issues can turn into really huge issues...and I prefer to nip them in the bud quicksmart.
[07:48] <nschoe> YankDownUnder, thanks for the tip, I'll be running one then
[07:48] <YankDownUnder> nschoe: Good to be paranoid, bro.
[07:48] <nschoe> Absolutely.
[07:58] <olf-folks> can anyone here help me
[07:58] <olf-folks> i have no networking fresh install ubuntu 16
[07:59] <YankDownUnder> "No networking"?
[07:59] <soppman> hello, lspci would also show devices with no drivers right?
[07:59] <majnoon> kk INTERESTING problem
[07:59] <olf-folks> my pcmcia ethernet dose not show up at all and my wireless shows up but i dont know how to get it to go, it says some error when i do wpasuplicant
[08:00] <YankDownUnder> soppman: lspci will tell you what is connected to the PCI bus...
[08:00] <soppman> YankDownUnder, ok thanks
[08:00] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Is there no means by which you can connect this machine to ethernet in order to possibly download drivers and updates?
[08:01] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: no, no networking usb wifi no pcmcia eth0 no
[08:01] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: unless you mean windows xp that it can dualboot back to
[08:01] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: The wifi - is that also on the PCMCIA card?
[08:01] <majnoon> google chrome won't run in desktop (ubuntu 14.04 cinamon) NORMALLY  i can get it to run using su -c <another user> and it works through ssh on another computer
[08:01] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: no that is usb
[08:02] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: and showsup via ifconfig
[08:02] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: If you boot this machine without the PCMCIA card in it (the ethernet, I presume), but DO have the USB based wifi plugged in, does that work, or have you tried that as of yet?
[08:03] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: yeah that is the first thing i tried
[08:03] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Well, I'd remove the PCMCIA card, and then fire up the network manager and see if that gets you connected to the wifi...
[08:04] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: did i mention there is no gui
[08:04] <olf-folks> i am working from tty
[08:04] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: "No GUI" - at all?
[08:05] <olf-folks> no just terminal
[08:05] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Lovely.
[08:06] <ducasse> olf-folks: you're not running a gui or it doesn't work?
[08:06] <olf-folks> ducasse: it is not installed, and i would prefer to keep it that way
[08:06] <Tin_man> server?
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Read this, mate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
[08:07] <gajop> OerHeks: it seems the 8GB RAM (probably one of the two 4GB modules) has errors
[08:07] <olf-folks> Tin_man: yup
[08:07] <gajop> the 32GB seems fine though
[08:07] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: This tells you how to identify wifi networks along with how to use nmcli to connect, my friend.
[08:07] <gajop> so uhm, what does one do now? should i assume almost all data (on the HDD/SSD) is corrupted as well?
[08:08] <Tin_man> olf can you ssh into it?
[08:09] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: the linke you refer to
[08:10] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: still is useing programs and tools i dont have access to
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Yersh...?
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: So on that "fresh install", you don't have "nmcli"?
[08:10] <olf-folks> Tin_man: no i have physicl aceess to a vtty
[08:10] <Tin_man> k
[08:11] <Tin_man> do you have another wifi usb dongle you can use?
[08:11] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: "ifconfig -a" will list the "devices" that you can connect with...?
[08:11] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: yes and it shows up
[08:12] <YankDownUnder> Tin_man: If you want to assist, please do. Two people trying to cook the soup is only going to lead to confusion.
[08:12] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: no
[08:12] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Can you type: nmcli d wifi list
[08:12] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: it is a part of network-manager which i do not have
[08:12] <Tin_man> go for it YankDownUnder ..
[08:13] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: So that is NOT part of the installation? Was this a "minimal" installation?
[08:13] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: i could type that but it would only me a oh so usefull message "do apt-get install network-namager"
[08:13] <\9> i'd imagine even a minimal installation should come with network-manager... something must have gone wrong
[08:14] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Right oh...gotcha...right...so here's a question - HOW did you do your install...was it via a liveUSB or something else?
[08:14] <ducasse> \9: actually, no. i installed from the server image, and nm is not installed.
[08:15] <\9> oh? that's weird
[08:15] <ducasse> olf-folks: just one question - you say wpa_supplicant throws an error - can you be more specific?
[08:15] <olf-folks> YankDownUnder: i used plopbootmgr to boot via usb the flashd i dd the ubuntu iso from
[08:15] <olf-folks> ducasse: hold on a sec
[08:15] <ducasse> \9: not really :) i use /etc/network/interfaces, which is what the installer sets up unless you install a desktop that depends on nm.
[08:16] <\9> hm
[08:18] <YankDownUnder> olf-folks: Check this out - it's about establishing a connection without network manager: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/how-configure-wifi-card-using-command-line-or-terminal
[08:21] <olf-folks> ducasse: http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KO8Ea
[08:21] <olf-folks> http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KO8Ea
[08:21] <Hounddog> Good Morning.
[08:24] <Hounddog> I am fighting my disk size again. I have just freed up another 500gb from my windows partition which i want to use under ubuntu. However it seems i might have to shovel things like root etc around. I am a bit unsure how i would approach things right now. sdba is my ssd and sdb a normal harddrive
[08:24] <olf-folks> ducasse: do you think it autodetect the wrong driver?
[08:24] <ducasse> olf-folks: see this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant#nl80211_driver_not_supported_on_some_hardware
[08:24] <olf-folks> ok
[08:30] <olf-folks> ducasse: well that gets me a bit closer now i have this http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KOljq
[08:31] <delizin> Hello everyone. I'm trying to use Upstart to keep a server running. However everytime upstart executes the script, either from 'start service' or rebooting the VPS, it starts multiple instances of the server which all interfere with each other. After a few minutes there is normally only one instance running, but it is broken due to a file lock or socket lock. I'm quite new to this and really appreciate any guidance. Thanks. http://
[08:31] <ducasse> olf-folks: "The requested page was not found"
[08:32] <olf-folks> ducasse: my bad im typeing the urls out http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KOIjq
[08:35] <geirha> delizin: make sure it doesn't background itself
[08:36] <ducasse> olf-folks: looks to me like the driver for your chipset is not supported, do you have another adapter you can use?
[08:37] <ne2k> I have just done a fresh install of 16.04 desktop (coming from 14.04). I like to use the right Windows key as the compose key, so I have set it as such in Keyboard->Shortcuts. However, it doesn't work, and when I press right-win I just get the "Search your Computer" bar up, same as if I press left-win. any suggestions?
[08:38] <delizin> geirha: I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. The script that upstart is executing is just running 3 lines, it deletes a lock file in the server directory incase of a crash, changes directory to the server folder and then starts the server with screen.
[08:40] <geirha> delizin: Then upstart can't know it's running. And deleting the lock file unconditionally kind of defeats the purpose of a lock file
[08:41] <delizin> geirha: I'm not deleting an upstart lock file. The server has a data folder that has a lock file. Unfortunately it has numerous crashes and doesn't clean up the lock file properly so I need to manually delete it before the server will restart
[08:43] <geirha> delizin: but that's the reason why it starts multiple instances
[08:44] <ducasse> olf-folks: another possibility, is there an alternative driver for that chipset?
[08:45] <delizin> geirha: If I leave the lock file in place, upstart is still starting multiple instances but each process stalls when they see that the lock file exists. Unfortunately this program does not fail gracefully at all so the process continues running even after failing to load.
[08:46] <Ben64> sounds like you need to figure out a better script
[08:47] <geirha> delizin: Yeah this application you're trying to start is really fragile, and it's hard to manage it when it doesn't follow common practices
[08:49] <geirha> delizin: the reason it starts multiple instances is because upstart has no way of knowing whether the application got started or not. From upstart's perspective, screen started and died immediately.
[08:57] <jokke> (how) can i install this package? https://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/imagemagick
[08:57] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[08:58] <OerHeks> Ben64, you are a genius!
[09:00] <delizin> geirha: Thank you for the help, that got me to where I needed to be by excluding screen and running the application directly.
[09:00] <jokke> Ben64: ...
[09:00] <jokke> Ben64: i specifically mean _that_ package
[09:00] <jokke> in _that_ version
[09:00] <Ben64> good luck
[09:00] <ducasse> jokke: that's a debian package - don't.
[09:00] <jokke> ducasse: ubuntu is debian based, no?
[09:01] <ducasse> jokke: _based_.
[09:01] <Ben64> installing packages not meant for your system is a Bad Idea™
[09:01] <OerHeks> jokke if you need that version, build it yourself
[09:01] <geirha> what's so special about 6.9 that 6.8 doesn't have?
[09:01] <Ben64> geirha: it's 0.1 more
[09:01] <jokke> i was afraid you'd say that
[09:02] <jokke> oh well
[09:02] <jokke> geirha: 6.8 has a weird bug with borders
[09:02] <ducasse> jokke: file a request for a backport.
[09:02] <alkisg> Or ask for a bug SRU
[09:03] <ne2k> I'm not sure which package to file this bug against. Super R cannot be mapped as Compose key; it is grabbed by the "Search computer" panel thing
[09:04] <jokke> ducasse: no time to wait for a backport
[09:04] <jokke> so from source it is...
[09:04] <EriC^^> jokke: dpkg -i it into /usr/local or something
[09:04] <EriC^^> man dpkg to see how to change where it gets installed
[09:05] <jokke> EriC^^: you think?
[09:05] <ayogi> hi guyes
[09:05] <jokke> i still need all of those sub packages right..?
[09:05] <ayogi> does any one knows how to get the commands run from a particular ip on server
[09:05] <EriC^^> the depends?
[09:06] <ayogi> some one has logged in to my machine via ssh
[09:06] <ayogi> now i want to know what all he has run and running in my machine
[09:06] <ducasse> jokke: you could build the source package and install that.
[09:06] <jokke> ducasse: how does that work?
[09:06] <jokke> sorry, i'm using arch linux my self so i'm not that familiar with ubuntu
[09:07] <ne2k> hmmm, bizarre. I switch to a VT and then back to X and it's fixed
[09:07] <ducasse> jokke: 'man apt-get', see the 'source' command.
[09:07] <EriC^^> jokke: hold on
[09:07] <ducasse> jokke: ah, debian - nvm.
[09:07] <jokke> ok
[09:07] <ducasse> jokke: use dpkg-buildpackage
[09:07] <jokke> hm
[09:07] <geirha> ayogi: that might not be possible
[09:08] <ayogi> geirha, what should i do get something like that
[09:08] <ayogi> geirha, I feel my server is being attacked and i want to see what someelse is doing
[09:09] <alkisg> ayogi: did he use a specific user id to login? Do you know which user id?
[09:09] <ayogi> i just know someone else is logged in to the server using 'who' command
[09:10] <EriC^^> jokke: download http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/i/imagemagick/imagemagick_<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg.orig.tar.xz
[09:10] <EriC^^> jokke: untar it and run ./configure && make then sudo make install , it'll install to /usr/local
[09:10] <ayogi> netstat shows the he connected over ssh
[09:10] <geirha> ayogi: is he running a shell? then stracing that shell should reveal what commands he's running
[09:11] <ayogi> how do I know that
[09:11] <alkisg> ayogi: ps aux | grep sshd ==> can you see his username there?
[09:11] <ayogi> he has logged in as root
[09:12] <geirha> strace -ff -o destfile -p $pidofshell
[09:12] <jokke> i'd rather build a package
[09:12] <ayogi> I am also logged in as root@pts/3
[09:12] <alkisg> ayogi: did you enable ssh root logins, and a root passwd?
[09:12] <alkisg> Those are not on by default
[09:12] <geirha> root? wow, some security breach
[09:12] <jokke> but it fails already with tail: cannot open 'debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory
[09:12] <jokke> dpkg-buildpackage: error: tail of debian/changelog gave error exit status 1
[09:12] <EriC^^> jokke: are you talking to me?
[09:12] <alkisg> ayogi:  So by default, it's not possible to login as root, so maybe you're just misinterpreting things
[09:13] <jokke> EriC^^: i'm talking to the channel :)
[09:13] <ayogi> I also logged in as root and password
[09:13] <ayogi> so it is enable
[09:13] <EriC^^> jokke: in response to what i suggested is what i mean :)
[09:13] <alkisg> ayogi: you are logged via ssh as root? or do you mean locally?
[09:13] <ayogi> i logged in via ssh as root
[09:13] <EriC^^> jokke: fwiw i d/l'd it and it ran configure fine and is compiling right now
[09:13] <EriC^^> running 16.04 here
[09:13] <jokke> EriC^^: yeah
[09:14] <jokke> sure but i really dislike installing from source without a package
[09:14] <alkisg> ayogi: this command should tell you the last command that people are running: w
[09:14] <alkisg> ayogi: what is that person running now?
[09:14] <EriC^^> jokke: it'll install to /usr/local so it won't touch any repo related files
[09:14] <jokke> so dpkg-buildpackage should be just run without params inside of the source dir?
[09:15] <EriC^^> jokke: you can just make uninstall or manually delete the files it has in /usr/local/..
[09:15] <jokke> nothing in /etc? nothing in /lib?
[09:15] <ayogi> okay now I know what he has run, he has opened a mysql conf file
[09:15] <ducasse> jokke: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/130894/how-to-build-a-debian-ubuntu-package-from-source
[09:15] <ayogi> using vi
[09:16] <ayogi> alkisg, he is probably trying to restart the mysql service as i am getting logs for that
[09:17] <alkisg> ayogi: maybe you should unset the root password, unset root ssh logins (i.e. just use the ubuntu defaults), and kick him, and then try to troubleshoot?
[09:18] <OerHeks> ayogi, ban that ip, change passwords ? sudo ufw deny from <ip_address> to any
[09:18] <EriC^^> jokke: apparently not, it uses /usr/local/lib
[09:18] <ayogi> alkisg, I have reset the root password now
[09:18] <ayogi> alkisg, how do i unset and kick him out
[09:18] <jokke> ducasse: can i somehow skip the processing of the changelog?
[09:18] <EriC^^> jokke: check the Install-unix readme at the build section, you can pass ./configure --prefix=/path/to/imagemagick to install it under that dir
[09:18] <alkisg> ayogi: it's best not to have a password at all, i.e. to not allow root logins at all, like ubuntu does by default
[09:18] <jokke> ducasse: since there isn't one that's formatted like dpkg-buildpackage expects it..
[09:18] <alkisg> ayogi: to kick him, just kill his sshd process
[09:20] <ayogi> alkisg, how to disable root login... and before that i need to create a user and give him sudo privileges
[09:20] <alkisg> jokke: that package is in experimental, i.e. "That means it is likely unstable or buggy, and it may even cause data loss." I would wait until it goes in unstable, at least.
[09:20] <alkisg> ayogi: which ubuntu version are you running? All those things are set by default...
[09:21] <ayogi> alkisg, 14.04
[09:21] <alkisg> ayogi: what does this say: getent group sudo
[09:21] <OerHeks> disable root login and create another root login ..??
[09:21] <jokke> alkisg: it's fine
[09:21] <ayogi> alkisg, sudo:x:27:
[09:21]  * OerHeks facepalm
[09:21] <jokke> i use it on arch just fine
[09:22] <alkisg> ayogi: ok, then create a user and put him in the sudo group
[09:22] <alkisg> jokke: *packaging* experimental, not upstream
[09:22] <alkisg> You'll be using the experimental packaging, which might be broken
[09:22] <jokke> mh ok
[09:22] <alkisg> experimental is just that, for experiments
[09:22] <jokke> well this is an experiment
[09:22] <alkisg> When debian devs are comfortable with their packaging, they put it in unstable
[09:23] <ayogi> alkisg, do you know how to generate a strong password in ubuntu using mkpasswd or something
[09:23] <alkisg> If you don't care if data loss happens in your system, you might also just try to install the .debs from debian, if their dependencies are satisfieable
[09:23] <alkisg> ayogi: no, I'm using a graphical utility for that, keepassx
[09:24] <jokke> screw it, i'll just ./configure && make && make install
[09:24] <EriC^^> jokke: it didn't work here
[09:24] <jokke> EriC^^: :/
[09:24] <jokke> why?
[09:24] <EriC^^> mkdir -p -- /home/e/imagemagick/share/doc/ImageMagick-6/www/api/MagickWand
[09:24] <EriC^^> /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./www/api/MagickWand/*.* /home/e/imagemagick/share/doc/ImageMagick-6/www/api/MagickWand
[09:24] <EriC^^> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat './www/api/MagickWand/*.*': No such file or directory
[09:25] <jokke> :(
[09:25] <EriC^^> i used --prefix=/home/e/imagemagick
[09:27] <EriC^^> ../api is full of html stuff, dont know why it can't stat it
[09:31] <EriC^^> jokke: i think it means the stuff it's supposed to copy isn't there
[09:31] <fergal_> hi guys, does anyone know what version of the linux kernel 10.04.4 uses?
[09:31] <EriC^^> jokke: yup the dir isn't there
[09:31] <k1l> fergal_: 10.04 reached its end of life already-
[09:32] <fergal_> k1l: yes, but i am doing some investigation on an old vm in work
[09:32] <OerHeks> fergal_, ' uname -a ' will tell you
[09:33] <fergal_> OerHeks: i can’t boot the vm because provisioning it fails, and i think it might be an issue related to the kernel version, i was just wondering if there was an easy way to find out such specs without needing access to an actual vm
[09:34] <alkisg> fergal_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/linux-image-generic
[09:34] <alkisg> fergal_: you can also just mount its disk and look at /boot
[09:34] <alkisg> Or at /lib/modules
[09:34] <k1l> 2.6.32 is the kernel
[09:37] <jokke> EriC^^: yeah i noticed too
[09:37] <jokke> EriC^^: trying to make some sense of it in ##imagemagick
[09:41] <kikko567> hello
[09:42] <fergal_> alkisg: thank you very much :)
[09:43] <alkisg> fergal_: you're welcome
[09:50] <ItsMeLenny> whos brilliant idea was it to remove the shutdown menu from the login screen?
[09:51] <k1l> ItsMeLenny: it is not removed
[09:52] <ItsMeLenny> k1l, where did mine go?
[09:52] <ItsMeLenny> one day it was there the next it wasnt, top right corner
[09:52] <k1l> what displaymanager is it? lightdm?
[09:53] <ItsMeLenny> yes
[09:53] <ItsMeLenny> the default ubuntu one
[09:54] <EriC^^> ItsMeLenny: i can confirm, if i try to switch accounts it's not there
[09:55] <k1l> try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"
[09:55] <EriC^^> don't know if it happens if i logout or fresh boot though
[09:55] <ItsMeLenny> EriC^^, happens to me on logout, before login, on switch user, its completely gone
[09:56] <OerHeks> ItsMeLenny, what happens if you hit ctrl-alt-del ?
[09:56] <k1l> EriC^^: i just did a shutdown without first logging in yesterday. so on boot it works. IMHO its just blocking shutdown if there is a logged in session
[09:56] <ItsMeLenny> and i need it becayse when i press shutdown in cinnamon all it does it popup with a dialog to cancel with no shutdown button in it, which is even more genius, so i have to log out and shutdown
[09:56] <EriC^^> k1l: aha
[09:56] <ItsMeLenny> k1l, i always log out to shutdown and its no longer there, it used to be
[09:56] <EriC^^> k1l: that would make sense
[09:57] <EriC^^> let me test it real quick
[09:58] <ItsMeLenny> it wouldnt be a problem if cinnamon had an actual shutdown button
[09:58] <ItsMeLenny> wb
[09:58] <EriC^^> when i logout it's not there either
[09:58] <EriC^^> ty
[09:58] <EriC^^> i just have the accessibility menu
[09:58] <ItsMeLenny> EriC^^, same
[09:58] <OerHeks> when logged out,  what happens if you hit ctrl-alt-del ?
[09:59] <ItsMeLenny> OerHeks, i get a cancel, switchuser, logout dialog
[10:00] <EriC^^> maybe it's a bug
[10:00] <EriC^^> lightdm was upgraded on july 15 for me
[10:01] <ItsMeLenny> EriC^^, thats probably about when it happened
[10:01] <ItsMeLenny> allegedly ctrl+alt+end is shutdown on my computer, i'll try it later, but im somewhat not optimistic
[10:04] <c0ax_> Hi ppl. I have problen. I cannot open port on my ubuntu 16.04. Running redis on p 6379. But I cannot access redis from other computers in network because port is not oepn. I have tryed with ufw allow 6379 and adding mannualy ip tables and restarting networking but nothing.
[10:04] <c0ax_> What should I do ?
[10:05] <EriC^^> c0ax_: is it running on that port? try netstat -tln
[10:05] <c0ax_> yup
[10:05] <c0ax_> <IP_ADDRESS>:6379 tcp LISTEN
[10:06] <EriC^^> try sudo iptables -L and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <c0ax_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20853908/
[10:08] <c0ax_> EriC^^, here you go
[10:08] <EriC^^> c0ax_: maybe it's not a firewall issue?
[10:09] <c0ax_> so what is it? :D
[10:09] <c0ax_> I cannot solve it
[10:09] <EriC^^> does it work if you change the main input policy to accept?
[10:09] <c0ax_> so iptables -I ACCEPT?
[10:09] <c0ax_> nmap scan doesnt show that it is open.
[10:10] <EriC^^> iptables -P INPUT accept
[10:10] <marahin> Is there a way to set DPI / scaling per display? By that I mean I have setup scaling already on my laptop screen (high resolution), but my external screen is fullhd. Every window / application is *huuge* when displayed on external screen
[10:10] <geirha> <IP_ADDRESS>:6379 tcp LISTEN  means it has bound to the loopback device, so it cannot be accessed from the outside
[10:10] <c0ax_> EriC^^, thats all ?
[10:10] <marahin> In options I have scaling indeed, but I can't set it up per-screen; it's global
[10:10] <EriC^^> c0ax_: no i sec
[10:10] <EriC^^> *1 sec
[10:10] <c0ax_> geirha, so ?
[10:10] <geirha> It should say <IP_ADDRESS>:6379 if you want it to listen on all interfaces
[10:10] <c0ax_> what to do?
[10:10] <c0ax_> yeah
[10:10] <c0ax_> how to do that?
[10:10] <geirha> tell it to bind to <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:11] <Anarhist> !ltsupgrade
[10:11] <c0ax_> geirha, how?
[10:11] <geirha> c0ax_: by reading the docs for redis
[10:11] <geirha> It's probably using <IP_ADDRESS> as a default
[10:12] <ayogi> OerHeks, help please, w command shows a user is logged in
[10:12] <ayogi> OerHeks, but ps aux | egrep "sshd: does not shows its process id
[10:13] <ayogi> w command shows a user is logged in
[10:13] <IamTheBoss> whats the topic
[10:13] <IamTheBoss> w
[10:13] <ayogi>  but ps aux | egrep "sshd: does not shows its process id
[10:14] <EriC^^> ayogi: who -a
[10:15] <ayogi> EriC^^, who -a shows a user logged in
[10:15] <EriC^^> the pid should be to the right
[10:16] <ayogi> EriC^^, left ?? not right?
[10:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:16] <EriC^^> e        + pts/17       2016-07-25 13:13   .         10526 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:16] <ayogi> EriC^^, should I do kill -9 $PID
[10:16] <EriC^^> pid is 10526 in that case
[10:17] <EriC^^> ayogi: sure if you want to disconnect the user
[10:17] <EriC^^> try kill $PID first, then kill -9 $PID
[10:17] <ayogi> EriC^^, I am not able to kill using -9 also
[10:18] <EriC^^> are you using sudo?
[10:18] <ayogi> EriC^^, yeah i am root,
[10:18] <ayogi> EriC^^, its who -a line show ? mark
[10:19] <ayogi> EriC^^, root     ? pts/3        2016-07-25 08:01   ?
[10:20] <EriC^^> ayogi: maybe that's you?
[10:20] <EriC^^> try "tty"
[10:20] <ayogi> EriC^^, no its not my ip
[10:20] <ayogi> EriC^^, tty what
[10:21] <EriC^^> tty a command
[10:21] <EriC^^> it should give you your tty name
[10:22] <ayogi> yeah mine 6
[10:22] <ayogi> and attackers is 3
[10:22] <ayogi> EriC^^, so its not my ip
[10:22] <EriC^^> ayogi: ok, can you access the machine from a console from the vps?
[10:23] <c0ax_> Guys thank you a lot
[10:23] <c0ax_> geirha, thanks
[10:23] <c0ax_> Its working now
[10:23] <ayogi> EriC^^,  I have a ssh logged in session
[10:24] <ayogi> EriC^^, root     ? pts/3        2016-07-25 08:01   ?          6354
[10:24] <EriC^^> ayogi: ok try kill -9 6354
[10:24] <ayogi> EriC^^, and when I am doing kill -9 6354
[10:24] <ayogi> EriC^^, its not going ways
[10:24] <ayogi> EriC^^, *away
[10:25] <ayogi> EriC^^, what else can we do to kick him out
[10:27] <EriC^^> i don't know that much about it tbh
[10:27] <EriC^^> try ps aux and kill his shell maybe? then change the root password
[10:28] <EriC^^> you probably should make the server offline and access it from your vps and use a good backup right now instead
[10:34] <ayogi> we can't make the server offline its a production machine
[10:37] <Laibsch> Hello, I have memory issues with Firefox and according to the Mozilla devs this is a problem only present in 32 bit version.  Can i run 64 bit FF in 32 bit Ubuntu?
[10:39] <ShotokanZH> Laibsch, just nope.
[10:40] <Hounddog> Hi, i am just reinstalling and need a dualboot windows/ubuntu. i have a 120gb ssd and 3tb harddrive and wondering how to partition this properly
[10:41] <Hounddog> i was actually running out of space on ubuntu as my logs where blowing up and docker images using a lot of space
[10:43] <Laibsch> Hounddog: that is really up to you.  You could have the OS /, /usr, /var on the SSD and /home on the HD.
[10:43] <Laibsch> You could also combine the two disks to form a single btrfs array.
[10:43] <Laibsch> many possibilities
[10:44] <Hounddog> i was even thinking of having /var on the hdd
[10:44] <Laibsch> I like to have above mentioned directories on separate partitions and have lately been using btrfs subvolumes for that purpose
[10:44] <Hounddog> well if i combine them i can still have the dualboot?
[10:44] <Laibsch> absolutely
[10:45] <Hounddog> i have been working on ubuntu for a while but coming to this stuff i am lost...
[10:45] <Laibsch>  /boot is ext2 here, mounted read-only, the other partitions are btrfs
[10:45] <Hounddog> windows is just still here for gaming :p
[10:46] <Laibsch> the good thing about btrfs and subvolumens is the ability to be flexible in the future.  The downside that I experienced is that btrfs is terrible in situations where the partition is close to full.
[10:46] <Hounddog> well anyway, i just deleted all partitions so i am able to start from scratch
[10:47] <Hounddog> however if i combine, how would i know where the ssd and where the normal harddisk is?
[10:47] <Hounddog> sorry for the stupid questions
[10:47] <Laibsch> why would you need to know?
[10:48] <Hounddog> cause the ssd is faster
[10:48] <Laibsch> btrfs can combine several devices into one "larger device"
[10:48] <Hounddog> sure, but i woukld want to run certain things on the faster harddrive
[10:49] <Hounddog> if i just "combine" i understand that i have a "single" harddrive then
[10:49] <Laibsch> I already said what I would do: put /, /boot, /var and /usr on SSD and /home on HD
[10:50] <Hounddog> i had that already and ran constantly out of space
[10:50] <Laibsch> where?
[10:50] <Hounddog> on "/" and var
[10:51] <Hounddog> so var i would propably also move to hdd
[10:51] <Laibsch> how big was your var?
[10:51] <Hounddog> at total i gave some 26gb to ubuntu on the ssd
[10:52] <Hounddog> dont remember the var size now
[10:52] <Laibsch> seriously, I wouldn't worry that much
[10:52] <Hounddog> hmmm
[10:53] <Laibsch> your SSD is faster, but all this planning won't gain you THAT much
[10:53] <Laibsch> and you can always move things later
[10:53] <Hounddog> its not about gaining i just dont want the system screaming at me again that / is full
[10:55] <Hounddog> anyway, guess i should first install windows
[10:57] <Laibsch> I thought it was /var that's full ;-)
[10:57] <Hounddog> both
[10:57] <Laibsch> anyhow, let's say you were to put /, /var and /usr on their OWN btrfs partition
[10:57] <Hounddog> they are regularly alternating
[10:58] <FManTropyx> if you install Windows, why do you even need Ubuntu? :)
[10:59] <Laibsch> now it becomes full, you could then simply add more space to it (even temporarily from a USB stick) by "sudo btrfs device add /dev/sdX1 /var" after which you could even remove the partition on the SSD from the array and live migrate /var to the HD while the system is running.
[10:59] <Laibsch> btrfs has some awesome tricks like this.
[10:59] <Hounddog> FManTropyx: is this a serious question? have u ever tried developing under windows?
[10:59] <Laibsch> don't feed the trolls, Hounddog
[11:00] <ppq`> hi. i have a problem with ubuntu server 16.04 (headless setup). the box i installed it on will only boot when there is a display connected. if not it won't boot (can't ping it). what could be the problem?
[11:00] <Hounddog> Laibsch: even during runtime? thats neat
[11:00] <FManTropyx> yeah, and I plan to again... what are you developing?
[11:00] <Laibsch> Hounddog: yes, while the system is running
[11:00] <Laibsch> no need to power down
[11:01] <Hounddog> Laibsch: then i should check on how i would utilize this. i am guessing that windows would still live in its ntfs or also the btrfs?
[11:02] <Laibsch> windows should have it's own separate partition
[11:02] <Laibsch> I have not touched windows in more than a decade, but I do not think windows has btrfs
[11:02] <Hounddog> i mean basically i just need the boot partition for windows and i have some 1.5 tb partition on the hd and the rest would then just be btrfs?
[11:03] <Laibsch> Hounddog: don't overpartition.  With btrfs you can have a subvolume act like a partition of sorts and not have to worry about / having too little space while /usr still has plenty
[11:04] <Hounddog> nah i just mean like on the ssd 80gb for windows and another 1.5tb on the hdd rest is ubuntu
[11:04] <Laibsch> the Ubuntu installer will take care of using subvolumes if you choose to install to btrfs
[11:04] <Laibsch> why be so generous with Windows?  still such a hog? ;-)
[11:04] <Hounddog> yes...
[11:05] <Laibsch> anyhow, just go ahead and do it, the system is flexible
[11:05] <Hounddog> even though i put all games on another partition i had it still eating away some 60gb
[11:05] <Laibsch> I'd have the remaining free space on the HD as one partition (leave 1G for unplanned things) and the same for the HD.
[11:06] <Laibsch> you COULD combine the SSD btrfs and HD btrfs but I am not sure I would do that
[11:06] <Laibsch> it's really up to you
[11:09] <nibblyn> Hi! HDMI works with LIVE iso but not with istalled OS. Ubuntu Mate 16.04. The very same issue seems to afflict other users too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656808/hdmi-works-with-live-usb-but-not-installed-ubuntu . Which is the advised way to seek help? Askubuntu? UbuntuForum? MateForum? Launchpad?
[11:15] <Hounddog> Laibsch: thats what i thought you are suggesting to combine the both ssd and hdd
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !ping
[11:35] <neroux> hi! would anybody be familiar with ACPI and how linux determines when a notebook battery is full?
[11:39] <neroux> nobody?
[11:43] <Amm0n> neroux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Battery > "cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state" maybe?
[11:49] <neroux> Thanks Amm0n, the problem in my case is the system never recognises that the battery is full and switches to AC but always claims that it is "using battery power"
[11:49] <jokke> what's the recommended way of setting the max file limit for upstart services?
[11:51] <ikonia> qq!
[11:51] <ikonia> oops
[11:51] <te_lanus> is there a kernel update/setting to enable the Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600's extra keys to work in Ubuntu 16.04 Mate?
[11:51] <ducky_> qq？
[11:51] <ikonia> te_lanus: normally just hot key configuration in xorg
[11:51] <ikonia> a lot of keyboards just a config file update
[11:51] <ikonia> no need for anything to do with the kernel
[11:51] <cfhowlett> qq is a chinese chat app ....
[11:51] <ikonia> it was a vi exit in the wrong
[11:51] <ikonia> window
[11:51] <akik> jokke: i think it's done through /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:52] <akik> jokke: or have you tested that?
[11:52] <jokke> akik: hm i just read on so that it's done by setting limit nofile in the init conf
[11:53] <akik> weird that it would be there
[11:53] <jokke> why?
[11:53] <jokke> makes sense to me
[11:53] <jokke> systemd does it per service as well
[11:53] <akik> but you never know. well things change
[11:53] <akik> it's been done in limits.conf since forever
[11:54] <Amm0n> neroux, was it working at some point?
[11:54] <neroux> no, its a new installation and it always shows "using battery power"
[11:57] <Hounddog> laibsch: the worst part is actually waiting for fricking windows to finish so i can start installing ubuntu :p
[11:58] <Amm0n> neroux, is the battery charging and has fine capacity? did you tested another OS?
[11:59] <neroux> battery is fine and charging (charged) .... havent tested it with another OS though
[11:59] <jokke> akik: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19995855/increase-max-open-files-for-ubuntu-upstart-initctl
[11:59] <Amm0n> neroux, what's the laptops model nr?
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> EriC^^, did i miss some convo about fixing the login, i forgot
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> fixing the shutdown
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <Aussie_matt> anyone got a couple of minutes to help me with some update issues? it's telling me to use aptget
[12:18] <k1l> !details | Aussie_matt
[12:23] <Queenslayer> hi
[12:28] <msev-> Does anyone of you guys own a SF-922B USB microphone so you can tell how it works on linux? :D
[12:30] <cfhowlett> msev-, pretty esoteric query ... I bet #opensource musicians would know
[12:31] <Aussie_matt> are 14.04lts users getting updated to 16.04lts yet?
[12:32] <k1l> Aussie_matt: the lts upgrade was postponed for one week due to last bug testings
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, yes.
[12:32] <Aussie_matt> ah.. my australian mirror isn't notifying me
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt,  as suggested above, FOCUS your question and provide exact details if you want assistance
[12:33] <msev-> cfhowlett, thanks gonna try there
[12:34] <msev-> so does the 16.04.1 point release fix those network problems some guys were having? and the other bugs?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> msev-, several bug fixes were rolled out with the .1 update
[12:39] <majnoon> has INTERESTING problem google chrome won't run in desktop (ubuntu 14.04 cinamon) NORMALLY  i can get it to run using su -c <another user> and it works through ssh on another computer
[12:54] <jophish> Hi all. How can I find the exact version of the package on my system supplying libc6?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> jophish, dpkg -l libc6
[12:55] <jophish> thanks cfhowlett
[12:55] <cfhowlett> happy2help! jophish
[12:58] <AMR_KELEG> I am using this tutorial for updating to 16.04 from 14.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[12:58] <AMR_KELEG> Yet i get a Software is uptodate message
[12:59] <AMR_KELEG> Has Ubuntu 14.04 Got its automatic update to 16.04?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> AMR_KELEG, sudo update update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade
[13:01] <AMR_KELEG> cfhowlett, sudo: update: command not found , Is it sudo apt update?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> AMR_KELEG, so sorry.  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:02] <cfhowlett> my fault for trying to multi-task, not ubuntu's fault
[13:03] <AMR_KELEG> No problem , I got this message "No new release found"
[13:03] <cfhowlett> AMR_KELEG, cat /etc/issue
[13:04] <AMR_KELEG> cfhowlett, Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[13:06] <cfhowlett> AMR_KELEG, ah, yes!  as was noted earlier tonight, auto upgrade was pushed back a week for bug testing.   wait a few more days
[13:06] <AMR_KELEG> cfhowlett, Ok thanks alot
[13:06] <cfhowlett> happy2help! AMR_KELEG
[13:09] <rightshift> Any idea when 16.04 will be fixed?
[13:09] <rightshift> wrong channel :P
[13:09] <DJones> rightshift: In what way fixed?
[13:10] <rightshift> Was meant for the CloudStack channel
[13:10] <DJones> No worries
[13:10] <rightshift> as the Ubuntu 16.04 CloudStack template doesn't work due to the way the NIC name has changed
[13:10] <rightshift> from eth0 to ens3
[13:10] <rightshift> in KVM
[13:10] <rightshift> so it breaks a bunch of stuff
[13:10] <atralhea-> hi
[13:11] <atralhea-> guys, I screwed my system with installing compiz... is there any way to turn everything back?
[13:12] <EriC^^> atralhea-: which de do you use?
[13:12] <atralhea-> EriC^^: unity, 16.04
[13:12] <EriC^^> compiz is already installed, what do you mean by installing compiz?
[13:13] <atralhea-> EriC^^: yes, I meant compiz config setting manager
[13:13] <atralhea-> and plugins
[13:13] <EriC^^> atralhea-: try dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[13:13] <atralhea-> I just want the default setting
[13:14] <EriC^^> or rm -r ~/.config/compiz-1
[13:14] <atralhea-> with sudo?
[13:14] <EriC^^> no
[13:14] <atralhea-> pl
[13:14] <atralhea-> ok
[13:14] <EriC^^> it's just a user config issue
[13:14] <EriC^^> if you create another user, or use the guest they should still work fine
[13:15] <atralhea-> I did, should I notice anything? because it just ran, nothing happened that I notice now
[13:16] <atralhea-> let me try the second command
[13:16] <EriC^^> atralhea-: try logging out and back in
[13:17] <atralhea-> ok, wait
[13:17] <Phrygian> h
[13:17] <Phrygian> hi
[13:17] <EriC^^> hi
[13:19] <atralhea-> EriC^^: I think it solved
[13:19] <Phrygian> I've just purchased an ubuntu server to run a server for a game, but I'm having some issues. I have to run one node js program followed by another, but the first program takes up the console so when i run a command it goes straight into the first program instead of the terminal. How do i avoid this?
[13:19] <EriC^^> atralhea-: great :)
[13:19] <atralhea-> EriC^^: if I noticed weird problems again, I will come here!
[13:19] <EriC^^> atralhea-: ok :)
[13:20] <atralhea-> EriC^^: the problem I had that led me to installing that, was that I wanted alt+tab not to group windows! is there any way to do that?
[13:20] <muftware>  can anyone help me with grub?
[13:21] <EriC^^> atralhea-: no idea about that
[13:21] <EriC^^> atralhea-: there's alt+` in case it's helpful
[13:21] <EriC^^> it spreads them for the same group
[13:21] <Phrygian> do you have any idea how i can fix that?
[13:21] <EriC^^> muftware: what's the problem?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !server | Phrygian
[13:22] <Phrygian> #ubuntu-server
[13:22] <Phrygian> crap lol
[13:23] <atralhea-> EriC^^: I didn't know that, thats better than nothing! but I think there must be an option to prevent grouping windows in alt + tab switching, if you can tell developers, tell it to them! thanks:)
[13:23] <muftware> Eric^^: actually I was doing some work a new kernel. But something happened while installing it(may b) that now grub is not showing me an option for windows which is installed on my hd
[13:25] <muftware> So can I just change grub config file, and add an option of windows?
[13:26] <XL_POUTINE> boot to a live ubuntu cd and run grub repair
[13:26] <XL_POUTINE> it should detect the windows partition and fix the boot loader
[13:27] <EriC^^> muftware: try sudo update-grub
[13:27] <EriC^^> atralhea-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84880/how-can-i-make-alt-tab-browse-through-all-my-windows-without-grouping-them/512640#512640
[13:28] <atralhea-> EriC^^: that's exactly how it happened!
[13:29] <EriC^^> atralhea-: did you let it resolve the conflict?
[13:29] <atralhea-> yes
[13:29] <EriC^^> it needs to disable the reverse switcher thingy
[13:29] <atralhea-> I disabled it
[13:29] <atralhea-> that was ok, it worked
[13:29] <muftware> Eric^^: Thanks man, it just worked!
[13:29] <EriC^^> hmm let me try it here, maximum i can reset it
[13:29] <atralhea-> but other weired problem happened
[13:29] <EriC^^> muftware: great, no problem!
[13:30] <atralhea-> like I couldn't select a window
[13:30] <EriC^^> i chose it and pressed the right button for all the questions
[13:31] <EriC^^> it works it seems
[13:31] <EriC^^> it's a little confusing though cause it's transparent
[13:31] <atralhea-> it does work, that wasn't the problem, it just had some side effects!
[13:32] <EriC^^> it's working very nicely here
[13:32] <sdexter> I am running 14.04.4 LTS, and though I appear to apache set to start at boot. It doesn't
[13:32] <sdexter> Doing 'update-rc.d apache2 defaults' says the links are already in place
[13:32] <EriC^^> atralhea-: maybe it's other settings were making the conflict?
[13:32] <atralhea-> but I also carefully checked out other settings, so what happened to me was because of them
[13:33] <sdexter> but I can manually start after boot.
[13:33] <EriC^^> update-rc.d apache2 enable maybe?
[13:34] <EriC^^> sdexter: ^
[13:35] <sdexter> update-rc.d: warning:  start runlevel arguments (none) do not match apache2 Default-Start values (2 3 4 5) update-rc.d: warning:  stop runlevel arguments (none) do not match apache2 Default-Stop values (0 1 6)
[13:36] <EriC^^> atralhea-: ring shifter is kind of neat, compiz has so many stuff O.O
[13:37] <atralhea-> EriC^^: yes, I tweaked other things too, and one of them caused that weired problems, I was just scared of compiz setting manager :))
[13:38] <atralhea-> EriC^^: I set the alt + tab function in compiz again, working fine, I wont touch anything else! thank you :)
[13:38] <sdexter> But it looks like it did the job. Thanks
[13:38] <atralhea-> btw, how can I find the command for lunching an app that its icon is on the left bar?
[13:39] <sdexter> Opps no, was looking at wrong machine. Still doesn't start
[13:39] <EriC^^> atralhea-: super + number
[13:40] <EriC^^> atralhea-: holding super shows the list of numbers
[13:46] <atralhea-> EriC^^: I mean the command that I can type in terminal and lunch that app
[13:47] <EriC^^> ah
[13:47] <EriC^^> no idea, you can get the command from the .desktop in /usr/share/applications Exec= line
[13:47] <EriC^^> brb
[13:49] <atralhea-> EriC^^: found it! thanks!
[13:50] <jophish> I need to compile libc with some different flags to the standard ubuntu install. Is there anything special I should take care of before doing this?
[13:50] <jophish> I understand it's a tricky library to be playing around with
[13:51] <jophish> I need to compile with --disable-lock-elision
[13:57] <Amm0n> jophish, https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Testing/Builds
[13:58] <Amm0n> jophish, and backups of course
[14:05] <teta> hi, I'm in ubuntu 14.04 and when I start skype and want to use the camera it says no video devices enabled
[14:06] <vanham> Guys, so, I have two hosts here with 5 OSDs each. I want my pools to have 3 replicas. So, 3 drives, but always on at least two servers. Is it possible:
[14:06] <vanham> ?
[14:06] <vanham> Ops, different channel. Sorry.
[14:07] <teta> hi, I'm in ubuntu 14.04 and when I start skype and want to use the camera it says no video devices enabled
[14:19] <jophish> thanks Amm0n, I'll take a look
[14:22] <skinux> To my understanding 16.04.1 is released for new installs, but not for upgrading yet...correct?
[14:23] <mcphail> skinux: you can upgrade from 15.10, but not 14.04 (yet)
[14:23] <skinux> k
[14:24] <skinux> Seems like I could just upgrade to 15.04, 15.10, then to 16.04.1
[14:25] <mcphail> skinux: that isn't easy, as most of those released are EOL'd
[14:25] <skinux> Yeah
[14:26] <mcphail> skinux: alternative would be to do a new install of 16.04
[14:26] <skinux> Yeah, not doing that
[14:27] <mcphail> skinux: if you wait a few days, I expect you'll be able to go straight to 16.04 from 14.04
[14:27] <skinux> Yeah.
[14:27] <skinux> I'm just tired of waiting.
[14:28] <skinux> I'm on an LTS version, but they left this version out when releasing the new LTS
[14:34] <nepanon> Test
[14:59] <Wulf> !aptoncd
[15:00] <sdexter> I am installing Ubuntu 14.04 on a root partition that is on a software raid setup (RAID1 just two drives) and it fails at the 'Install the GRUB boot loader' part
[15:01] <sdexter> 'Executing grub-install /dev/sdk' failed.'  /dev/sdk is one of the drives in the software raid pair
[15:01] <ikonia> software raid or fake raid
[15:02] <sdexter> I created it during the install process, not sure which that is
[15:02] <ikonia> ok - should be proper software raid then
[15:02] <ikonia> raid 1 should be fine
[15:03] <f3ngt1ng> first to the irc
[15:03] <f3ngt1ng> hello everybody
[15:03] <atralhea-> where can I ask questions about software licenses?
[15:04] <ikonia> atralhea-: ask the person who owns the product/license
[15:04] <atralhea-> no, the general idea I mean
[15:04] <SchrodingersScat> atralhea-: https://tldrlegal.com/ there's this
[15:04] <voyager_> q all
[15:04] <atralhea-> I want to know about them for myself, my codes
[15:05] <ikonia> atralhea-: ask the people who own the licenses,
[15:05] <ikonia> eg: GPL, email the gnu license team
[15:05] <ikonia> Apache, the apache foundation
[15:05] <ikonia> etc etc
[15:05] <atralhea-> ikonia: SchrodingersScat: thank you :)
[15:05] <madsa> atralhea-: this should be a big help to you --> https://tldrlegal.com/
[15:06] <sdexter> ikonia: the raid setup seemed to go fine, it's the grub installation that seems to fail
[15:06] <atralhea-> madsa: im reading it :)
[15:06] <ikonia> sdexter: that really surprises me, (I see the error) but raid 1 should be fine to the physical devices
[15:06] <ikonia> sdexter: never seen it fail like that
[15:06] <ikonia> sdexter: are you %101 sure it was raid 1 ?
[15:07] <sdexter> I am going to try again.
[15:07] <ikonia> sdexter: not doubting you, but that senario should be fine, so it's worth being certain
[15:08] <sdexter> ikonia: no worries....fresh install, so not much to 'lose' at this point
[15:09] <ikonia> sdexter: certainly worth checking, but I'd be suprised if it was a legit bug, but not impossible
[15:09] <Kirito> Oh wow
[15:09] <Kirito> I just accidentally discovered what the HUD (Alt (Tap)) does
[15:09] <Kirito> that is extremely sexy
[15:10] <sdexter> So starting over, yes. It's a RAID1
[15:10] <JakesDen> Hi, i have a img file what i need to add some files to, i extracted it to a folder and added the files to that now ho to i create a img file with all the files inside the folder in it with ext4 file system
[15:11] <ikonia> JakesDen: you need to know what format the image file was before you can recreate it
[15:11] <JakesDen> how do i find out?
[15:12] <ikonia> run file against the image
[15:12] <JakesDen> how>
[15:13] <JakesDen> can i write it to a usb and see what file system it is
[15:13] <sdexter> ikonia: I am installing to /dev/md127  shouldn't grub be trying to install there, not to the members of the RAID1 setup?
[15:13] <JakesDen> it is ext4
[15:13] <MaxFrames> hi
[15:14] <MaxFrames> I am on lubuntu and wanted to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 so I asked in #lubuntu and got bad advice, now the "software updates" app has problems
[15:15] <JakesDen> how do i make a img with all the files in a folder in it
[15:15] <MaxFrames> I was told to type "sudo do-release-upgrade" in the terminal, but there were many "err" entries when it started, so as soon as it stopped for input (press enter to continue) I pressed ctrl+c and stopped it
[15:15] <MaxFrames> now if I run software updates it hangs
[15:15] <MaxFrames> I think it has updated the repositories to point at the new version
[15:16] <JakesDen> MaxFrames, tried doing sudo dpkg --reconfigure packagename
[15:16] <MaxFrames> how to check, how to restore? (the repositories for 14.04)?
[15:16] <MaxFrames> what packagename
[15:17] <JakesDen> type luuntu-soft and press tab and you might see it
[15:17] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: well that isn't bad advice. Can you post the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | tc termbin.com 9999'
[15:17] <MaxFrames> it was bad advice because it set the repositories for 15.10
[15:17] <MaxFrames> I do not want 15.10
[15:17] <JakesDen> you might just have to revert your sources
[15:17] <MaxFrames> I need to set the repos back to 14.04
[15:17] <MaxFrames> JakesDen: that is what I need to do, yes
[15:17] <django_> is having 2 ubuntus installed in grub make it go slower?
[15:18] <tgm4883> django_: no
[15:18] <django_> ok
[15:18] <JakesDen> i keep backups of my sources before i do updates between releases
[15:18] <JakesDen> how do i make a img with all the files in a folder in it
[15:19] <MaxFrames> tgm4883: the second piped command is unknown
[15:19] <MaxFrames> I am not on the lubuntu machine now, trouble to copy and paste
[15:19] <MaxFrames> anyway I have all the wily sources now
[15:20] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: my bad, it's supposed to be "nc" not "tc" too early.
[15:21] <MaxFrames> I need to restore the 14.04 trusty sources. is there a command that will undo what that command did?
[15:21] <MaxFrames> tgm4883: http://termbin.com/ilbq
[15:22] <MaxFrames> as you can see it's all wily now
[15:22] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: yep, do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:22] <Trinity> I ran the command dig and it's giving me back my loopback address as the DNS. However I have my wireless connection setup to use OpenDNS via the additional DNS
[15:22] <Trinity> are the additional DNS just optional? As in if my router's DNS fails it will fallback to those?
[15:22] <ducasse> JakesDen: why not just create a usb drive with what you want, and then image that?
[15:23] <MaxFrames> tgm4883: I have two files
[15:23] <JakesDen> thats what i am trying now
[15:23] <tgm4883> Trinity: that's dnsmasq
[15:23] <MaxFrames> webupd8team-java-trusty.list and webupd8team-java-trusty.list.distUpgrade
[15:24] <Trinity> tgm4883, can you elaborate?
[15:24] <MaxFrames> what shall I do?
[15:24] <Ascavasaion> I have never used Office 365, and I am asking this on behalf of my wife.  Is it possible to log into the Office 365 portal using Ubuntu and to run it using Ubuntu?
[15:24] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: ok, so if the first step was just setting everything to wily, you'll just need to edit your sources.list file and change wily back to trusty. Then do the same for the .list file in the sources.list.d directory
[15:24] <tgm4883> Ascavasaion: yes
[15:24] <tgm4883> Ascavasaion: it's just a web page, nothing special
[15:24] <Ascavasaion> tgm4883: Awesome, thank you.
[15:25] <MaxFrames> tgm4883: the files in the sources.list.d directory say "trusty"
[15:25] <Ascavasaion> tgm4883:
[15:25] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: ok, so then only change your sources.list file
[15:25] <Ascavasaion> tgm4883: Oh, thank you... I was under the impression it was some or other syncing thing for Office documents.
[15:25] <tgm4883> Ascavasaion: well that part exists too in the office apps if you install them locally
[15:26] <MaxFrames> tgm4883: with any text editor? do I just replace the "wily" word with "trusty" for all the entries?
[15:26] <MaxFrames> I am no expert...
[15:26] <Hounddog> i was wold to use btrfs for simplicity earlier how should i now install /boot /var and such on a 50gb should i partition those?
[15:26] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: yes, although you'll need root access to do so. Generally I'd recommend nano for the job
[15:27] <MaxFrames> can't I also edit the sources in the software updates app? they are all listed there and there is an edit button
[15:27] <MaxFrames> what is the path of sources.list?
[15:27] <MaxFrames> and is it enough to sudo to edit it?
[15:27] <EriC^^> /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:27] <tgm4883> MaxFrames: you can try from the software updates app
[15:28] <tgm4883> I've not tried that
[15:28] <ducasse> MaxFrames: "sudo sed -ir 's/wily/trusty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[15:29] <tonyt> is it possible to do a upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 yet?
[15:29] <MaxFrames> my original question ^
[15:29] <EriC^^> not yet
[15:29] <tonyt> k
[15:29] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrades
[15:29] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrade
[15:29] <MaxFrames> I should have asked here, not in #lubuntu
[15:30] <Ascavasaion> tgm4883: Thank you so much.
[15:32] <MaxFrames> my problem seems fixed, thanks
[15:33] <MaxFrames> I will never again seek for help on #lubuntu...
[15:40] <fckfreenode> anyone have a thinkpad x260?
[15:41] <JakesDen> I have a usb and it has a partition i need to srink as small as posible and create a .img with the partition
[15:41] <JakesDen> i tried using gparted to srink the partition but it faled
[15:41] <Hounddog> Laibsch if you are there i dont get how i would install it as btrfs
[15:41] <ducasse> JakesDen: failed how? any error message?
[15:43] <JakesDen> it says it is smaller then minimum
[15:43] <JakesDen> yet it is trying to be srnked to somethink 100mb more them mimimum
[15:46] <ducasse> JakesDen: ok, in that case it might be better to create a file of the size you want, mkfs that, mount it as a loop device and copy the files you need into it. a bit cumbersome, but should work.
[15:46] <curlyears> gratings and salivations
[15:46] <curlyears> oops, that was off topic (so is this)
[15:46] <JakesDen> can you guide me through doing that?
[15:47] <ducasse> JakesDen: how big a file do you need?
[15:47] <JakesDen> 1.75 gb
[15:48] <ducasse> JakesDen: 'truncate --size=1750M myimagefile'
[15:48] <Hounddog> Could someone help do a fresh install with btrfs? i am somehow lost here :/
[15:48] <Hounddog> not sure how i should assign the partitions
[15:50] <JakesDen> done
[15:50] <JakesDen> now what
[15:50] <ducasse> JakesDen: which fs - ext4?
[15:50] <JakesDen> ext 4
[15:51] <ducasse> JakesDen: 'mkfs.ext4 myimagefile'
[15:51] <JakesDen> done
[15:51] <ducasse> JakesDen: 'sudo mount -o loop myimagefile /mnt'
[15:52] <JakesDen> done
[15:52] <sdexter> Anyone ever had issues when creating a software RAID, where after creating the partitions to use and going to 'Create MD device' the raid partitions are not listed?
[15:52] <ducasse> JakesDen: now just copy what you want into /mnt, and umount when done. finished :)
[15:52] <Hounddog> i just selected something else instead of the default installation... now i am stuck on how i would continue on a btrfs installation.
[15:53] <JakesDen> how do i unmount
[15:53] <ducasse> JakesDen: 'sudo umount /mnt'
[15:53] <neldogz> Does anyone know what is the difference between linux-signed-image-4.4.0-31-lowlatency and linux-image-4.4.0-31-lowlatency
[15:54] <neldogz> Looks like This version of it is signed with
[15:54] <neldogz>  Canonical's UEFI signing key.
[15:54] <Hounddog> di i place boot also on to the btrfs?
[15:55] <Hounddog> do i place boot also on to the btrfs?
[15:55] <ducasse> Hounddog: multiple devices or single disk?
[15:55] <Hounddog> i have 2 harddisks
[15:56] <ducasse> Hounddog: yes, but does the btrfs span both of them, or is it in a partition?
[15:56] <Hounddog> ducasse: i have 1 ssd and 1 hd on the ssd i have now windows installed and have 45gb for ubuntu on the hd i have some 900gb for ubuntu
[15:56] <Hounddog> i have not partitioned it yet
[15:56] <Hounddog> its still unallocated
[15:57] <Hounddog> i am a bit unsure how to start this
[15:57] <ducasse> Hounddog: in that case i would put everything in one partition. do you have a special reason for using btrfs?
[15:58] <Hounddog> ducasse: i had problems of running out of space on an earlier install and laibsch suggested to me to use btrfs as i could shovel things around during runtme and would be easier apparently
[15:58] <curlyears> I am mystified.  My motherboard BIOS offer an EFI (*NOT* UEFI, EFI) option, that, as I understand thwe comment sin the BIOS option screen, only affects how you boot from the CD/DVD
[15:59] <Hounddog> ducasse: it was also suggested however to keep ssd and hd seperated
[15:59] <Hounddog> at this point... i just need a running system again ./
[16:00] <ducasse> Hounddog: i like btrfs, don't get me wrong, but unless you are using the system for lxc/lxd or need snapshots/subvols, i would advice you to go with ext4. it's more stable and can still be resized.
[16:00] <curlyears> but if it's set to EFI (as opposed to being disabled or set to "Auto") it totally screws up attempts to install, with my 3TB HDDs install.  If I unplug the 3TB drives, everything works smoothly.   WHY?
[16:00] <Hounddog> ducasse: i use a lot of docker images...
[16:01] <ducasse> Hounddog: your choice. if docker can leverage btrfs, that might be a reason.
[16:01] <Hounddog> not really sure about that right now... so one says use ext4 next says use btrfs and everyone says its my choice and i have no clue what benefits me
[16:02] <ducasse> Hounddog: what i'm saying is that unless you know you need btrfs, i would use ext4.
[16:03] <Hounddog> ducasse: i dont know what i need
[16:03] <Hounddog> .....
[16:03] <tatertots> when in doubt use ext4
[16:03] <Hounddog> ducasse: what are the benfits of btrfs against ext4?
[16:03] <tatertots> you're in doubt
[16:04] <ducasse> Hounddog: snapshots/subvolumes, deduplication, multiple devices support etc. see the btrfs wiki for details. but performance is generally worse than ext4.
[16:05] <ducasse> Hounddog: and btrfs is quite new, some consider it stable, others don't.
[16:06] <Hounddog> ok, then lets put it this way if i was to use ext4. i had problems earlier with / and /var running full i have a 45gb ssd and 800gb hd for linux ready. any suggestions on partitioning?
[16:06] <k1l> Hounddog: when you dont know why you want to use btrfs and know the risks, then use ext4. because that is the standard ubuntu filesystem
[16:06] <ducasse> k1l: +1
[16:07] <Hounddog> if i let the system do it automagically i get a weird partitioning
[16:07] <ducasse> Hounddog: put / on the smaller disk, then put /var and home etc on the bigger.
[16:08] <ducasse> Hounddog: /home, that is.
[16:08] <k1l> Hounddog: is that a server?
[16:09] <Hounddog> k1l: no its a workstation with dualboot windows/ubuntu
[16:09] <k1l> Hounddog: so /var was running full because of errormessages in the logs?
[16:10] <Hounddog> var/lib cause of docker images
[16:11] <Hounddog> k1l: ^^
[16:12] <ducasse> Hounddog: the smaller disk is ssd, right? i'd prefer to have / there, to speed up the system.
[16:12] <Hounddog> ducasse yes
[16:12] <ilinka> Hello
[16:12] <ducasse> Hounddog: how much space do you need for docker images?
[16:13] <ilinka> I want it https://github.com/patrickhaller/no-wm
[16:13] <Hounddog> ducasse not sure... but i would prefer moving them on to the 800gb hd anyway
[16:13] <ducasse> Hounddog: no idea? like, 10g or 500g?
[16:14] <k1l> Hounddog: you could put the docker folder to a folder on that hdd: https://forums.docker.com/t/how-do-i-change-the-docker-image-installation-directory/1169
[16:15] <Hounddog> ducasse: i need a lot of images cause it is of some 10 different versions of the app which also has different versions plugins and so on
[16:15] <ilinka> I want it https://github.com/patrickhaller/no-wm
[16:15] <Hounddog> so yeah i hit 100gb of images already
[16:16] <Hounddog> what i am concerned of right now i need to create /boot /swap / /home /var
[16:16] <k1l> Hounddog: why that?
[16:17] <Hounddog> k1l: so i can put /var and /home on the hd
[16:17] <k1l> Hounddog: why /boot and why /var? you can set your docker folder in /var/lib to whereever you want.
[16:18] <Hounddog> k1l: great, but i want to install ubuntu right now so i dont need the live usb stick anymore
[16:18] <k1l> either you tell docker to ue another folder or you symlink that folder. its explained in the link i posted
[16:18] <Hounddog> k1l: right now i am not concerned with the docker images, first i need an operating system
[16:18] <ducasse> Hounddog: put / on the ssd, /home on the hdd.
[16:19] <mcphail> Hounddog: looks as if you have 4 options. (1) lots of little partitions (as you have suggested). (2) btrfs across both disks (3) symlink or bind mount the large directories from your HDD (4) use bcache and be happy
[16:19] <Hounddog> ducasse: dont i have to create the /boot also?
[16:19] <k1l> Hounddog: then make those partitions and set them to be mounted as needed in the installer. i dont know what you are waiting for now or what you are asking for now if you know what to do
[16:19] <ducasse> Hounddog: why do you need a separate /boot?
[16:19] <Hounddog> ducasse: i thought i need it so the system can boot
[16:20] <ducasse> Hounddog: unless you're doing fde, no. /boot can live on /.
[16:20] <k1l> Hounddog: no. a seperate /boot is not needed on the standard setup.
[16:20] <Hounddog> so all i need on ssd is th swap and /
[16:20] <ducasse> Hounddog: right.
[16:21] <k1l> but honestly: i wouldnt put /swap on a ssd. because that will make a lot of load to the ssd that will make it age very fast
[16:22] <ducasse> if you actually _use_ swap regularly, then possibly.
[16:23] <k1l> this sounds like he will use the swap with loading several docker thingies.
[16:24] <Hounddog> might be
[16:24] <Hounddog> have 16gb of ram but ...
[16:24] <Zteam> Hi all!
[16:25] <ducasse> Hounddog: k1l has a point, if you think swap will be actively used, put it on the ssd. none of my systems ever touch it, though.
[16:25] <ducasse> hdd, sorry.
[16:26] <Hounddog> well either way it shouldnt hurt on the hd then
[16:26] <Zteam> I recently got a problem booting my full disc encrypted Ubuntu 15.10 machine these days, it complains that it can\t open the LVM, however if I boot from a USB stick I\m able to read all my files without any problems at all
[16:27] <Zteam> any easy for that
[16:28] <mcphail> Hounddog: you might want to have a read about bcache. I have 2 systems with large HDDs and small SSDs, running as bcache devices. They have been fast and reliable for me, despite lots of abuse with powercuts and a dodgy motherboard. It isn't trivial to set up, but may be worth the effort
[16:29] <Hounddog> mcphail: i will give it a read
[16:30] <SweetAndLow> is it possible to let network manager use dhcp but force a specific gateway?
[16:32] <ofir> guys, after "apt-get install g++-4.9"
[16:33] <ofir> does any of you know if it provides a script to source the new gcc environment?
[16:33] <ofir> so g++ defaults to g++-4.9, and all compiler env vars use the newest compiler ones?
[16:36] <Hounddog> ducasse: have sdba5: ext4  45gb  sdb5: swap 10gb  and sdb6: ext4 890gb
[16:37] <Hounddog> ups sdba5 is / and sdb6  is /home
[16:38] <delizin> Hey all. I have a VPS that I setup years ago and I am having trouble with the firewall. I am using UFW and have opened the desired port. Yesterday everything was working and then last night the server restarted and now I can't get any connections to the incoming port. The firewall rule is still in place, server is listening, nmap on the vps shows the port as open, but nmap locally shows it filtered.
[16:38] <delizin> I've been going at this for a few hours with no progress and would really appreciate any help
[16:39] <Hounddog> well time for some dogwalking... lets hope it doesnt ask any questions during installation :)
[16:40] <ducasse> Hounddog: good luck :)
[16:45] <hotmedal> I have a TV that used to work fine with HDMI with anything but now I can't connect any laptop to it. Sattelite receiver, bluray player, miracast all work fine with it. dmesg showed that it has bad EDID values. Can I force a resolution onto it without caring about EDID like the bluray player/miracast seems to do?
[16:50] <hotmedal> I have a TV that used to work fine with HDMI with anything but now I can't connect any laptop to it. Sattelite receiver, bluray player, miracast all work fine with it. dmesg showed that it has bad EDID values. Can I force a resolution onto it without caring about EDID like the bluray player/miracast seems to do? EDID:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/20887558/
[16:51] <mcphail> hotmedal: what is the native resolution?
[16:52] <hotmedal> 1360x768
[16:52] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I'm on 14.04.4, and, to my knowledge, an upgrade path to 16.04.01 should have been released on the 21st. do-release-upgrade -c says that no new release is available. What's going on?
[16:53] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | Schwarzbaer
[16:53] <Schwarzbaer> Thanks.
[16:54] <mcphail> hotmedal: and what graphics card and driver are you using?
[16:54] <hotmedal> intel integrated graphics. The driver is er... where do I check
[16:55] <hotmedal> mcphail: no dedicated graphics card
[16:55] <mcphail> hotmedal: and are you looking to bring up the tv on boot?
[16:55] <hotmedal> no, just a simple script would be good. To use when I want
[16:56] <mcphail> hotmedal: I used to use the guide here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Forcing_modes_and_EDID to get my desktop to behave with my TV over HDMI, but I don't think there is a built-in EDID blob for your resolution
[16:57] <hotmedal> mcphail: it doesn't even have 720p :/
[16:58] <hotmedal> mcphail: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI can I do this?
[16:58] <mcphail> hotmedal: yep. Have you tried using cvt and xrandr to force resolution?
[16:59] <hotmedal> mcphail: I was afraid that I would end up applying those to my leptop display.
[17:00] <maszlo> I have a lenovo T450s with an intel audio chip (Broadwell-U Audio Controller).  I get some pop / crackly sounds at boot right around where login screen appears. There was some fix that have done where messed with the pulseaudio config but cannot seem to remember where this was.  anyone have any insight on this?
[17:00] <mcphail> hotmedal: no - you can specify the display on the xrandr command line
[17:00] <mcphail> hotmedal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[17:00] <mcphail> hotmedal: it is all temporary anyway
[17:01] <hotmedal> mcphail: I thought the gui used xrandr? It the display doesn't actually appear anywhere
[17:02] <mcphail> hotmedal: yes, but you may need to add a modeline for your undetected resolution. Have a look at that link
[17:02] <mcphail> hotmedal: that is where cvt comes in
[17:02] <Hounddog> ducasse: thanks for your patience and help i really appreciate it... been working on ubuntu since years but i never really bother about such things :)
[17:03] <ducasse> Hounddog: you're welcome :) everything working ok now?
[17:03] <Hounddog> ducasse: so far yes its installed just need to install everything else now sublime docker etc etc etc
[17:04] <hotmedal> mcphail: oh so that's what cvt does. Cool. I'll try it
[17:04] <ducasse> Hounddog: good, just come back here if you need help :)
[17:04] <Hounddog> thank god even my php work environment is on docker... maybee should also create a docker for sublime lol :p
[17:12] <hotmedal> mcphail: If I do xrandr --addmode S-video 1360x768, will it output to the external display or the laptop one?
[17:13] <hotmedal> mcphail: I did newmode already
[17:14] <ducasse> hotmedal: use '--output HDMI-0' or whatever the output is called.
[17:15] <hotmedal> ducasse: oh ok
[17:15] <mcphail> hotmedal: yes, it won't be an s-video link!
[17:16] <mcphail> hotmedal: and cross your fingers. I find this stuff is black magic
[17:17] <hotmedal> mcphail: works. Thanks
[17:18] <mcphail> hotmedal: good stuff. Well done!
[17:18] <hotmedal> mcphail: now tell me how to do this sorcery in windows :P
[17:18] <mcphail> hotmedal: you're on your own ther ;)
[17:21] <Guest8578> hi
[17:22] <Guest8578> hi
[17:25] <maha_> yo
[17:26] <samtu92> I'm new to linux. I want to make it so I can call a bash script from anywhere simply by typing the name of it, is that possible?
[17:26] <samtu92> (I want to make it global, pretty much)
[17:26] <emetsipe> samtu92: create an alias that calls the script
[17:27] <ducasse> samtu92: put it somewhere in your path.
[17:27] <non> hey, a quick question: i've installed 16.04 on my pc, alongside with windows 10. now, i don't need windows anymore, so is there a way to a) do now disk encryption or b) save my settings, programms, repos, etc. to not do this all again when clean reinstalling ubuntu? thx in advance!
[17:27] <tgm4883> samtu92: is adding ./ to the beginning of it too much work?
[17:27] <samtu92> emetsnipe ducasee: ok
[17:27] <samtu92> tgm4883: I have to specify the path as well
[17:27] <xangua> non: backup
[17:27] <samtu92> Which takes a while
[17:28] <tgm4883> samtu92: Oh, I misunderstood the question
[17:28] <non> xangua: thx, i'll take a look on it.
[17:28] <rypervenche> samtu92: Add this to your ~/.bashrc file: export PATH="$PATH:/home/youruser/scripts" (or something like that.
[17:28] <samtu92> tgm4883: no problem :)
[17:28] <samtu92> rypervenche: ok!
[17:29] <rypervenche> samtu92: You'll have to restart the terminal or source the .bashrc file for it to work.
[17:29] <ducasse> isn't ~/bin in the path bu default?
[17:29] <rypervenche> ducasse: Yep. echo $PATH to find out.
[17:29] <xangua> non: you can attempt to modify the positions or make a clean install, whatever you prefer... But first name a backup
[17:29] <xangua> Make
[17:29] <tgm4883> ducasse: not on mine
[17:30] <curlyears> OK.  You know all the problems I had with installing, and booting, etc?  Well, it turnhs out it wasn't because I was stupid, or crazy, or lazy!
[17:30] <ducasse> tgm4883: then i must have added it.
[17:30] <zykotick9> ducasse: if ~/bin exists when you first log in, it should be automatically added to path.  tgm4883
[17:30] <sdexter> Oh...there is no support for RAID in the installer...why the heck is that????
[17:31] <tgm4883> zykotick9: when you first log in (as in first boot) or when you sign in?
[17:31] <ducasse> zykotick9: that could be why, thanks.
[17:31] <zykotick9> tgm4883: create directory, log out, log back in.
[17:31] <ducasse> sdexter: use the server installer
[17:31] <samtu92> export PATH="$PATH:/home/samtu/projects/calc.py" -- so will this work?
[17:32] <ducasse> samtu92: just the directory.
[17:32] <emetsipe> just include the path, not the script
[17:32] <tgm4883> zykotick9: that's fancy :)
[17:32] <samtu92> and then I just call calc.py?
[17:32] <samtu92> or simply calc?
[17:32] <sdexter> ducasse: that is what I am using
[17:32] <hotmedal> mcphail: any idea how to get audio on it? pavucontrol shows it as unplugged
[17:32] <sdexter> grub-install is failing
[17:32] <curlyears> anyway, as I was saying:   http://www.rodsbooks.com/gb-hybrid-efi/  <----   so it *WASN'T JUST ME*
[17:32] <curlyears> thank you.
[17:33] <ducasse> sdexter: the server installer supports raid setup.
[17:33] <ducasse> sdexter: are you using 'expert' mode?
[17:33] <sdexter> It installs fine...but when it gets to the part where the grub boot loader installed it fails.
[17:34] <curlyears> I know my trevails caused a fair amount of discomfort to many of you, I was seriously starting to form the opinion that I was actually doing something "wrong."  But I am vindicated.  :p
[17:34] <ducasse> samtu92: calc.py if that is what it's called.
[17:35] <samtu92> ducasse: weirds, its not working. Do I need to reboot?
[17:36] <curlyears> in fact, I fell as if this URL should be available on the ubuntu web site.  To where would I submit it?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> discomfort curlyears ?...some annoyance maybe ;-)
[17:36] <sdexter> ducasse: I was not using expert mode/
[17:36] <ducasse> samtu92: did you add it to .bashrc?
[17:36] <sdexter> Will that change the behavior of the grub installation however?
[17:37] <curlyears> BluesKaj: yeah, well, "annoyance" was my first choice of words, but I was attempting not to make anyone feel uncomfortable about my comments.
[17:37] <ducasse> sdexter: you shouldn't really need to, i think. don't know what went wrong, see the log on vc4. never had that problem.
[17:37] <curlyears> it was a particularly trying problem, as the articvle I linked goes into.  He complains of wasting 7 HOURS on this problem.  It cost me 9 months!
[17:38] <BluesKaj> curlyears, let's not get o  the "uncomfortable politically correct" Bullsh*t bandwagon ...we don't need that crap here :-)
[17:38] <samtu92> ducasse: Oh, I have to type the "python3" prefix
[17:38] <samtu92> ducasse: Thanks for the help
[17:38] <sdexter> ducasse: thanks
[17:39] <mcphail> hotmedal: not sure. You might need to pass a kernel parameter to enable hdmi audio. I don't have an intel device
[17:39] <ducasse> sdexter: any hints on vc4?
[17:39] <curlyears> to be fai, that isn't accurate.  The first 4 months were due to a flaw in a pushed update form ubuntu.com, which updated my "level number" and crashed my system bigtime.   at the top of your lungs.
[17:41] <curlyears> No need for it
[17:41] <BluesKaj> if someone is offended I'm sure they'll tell you straight or just ignore you
[17:41] <curlyears> tgm4883: eh>
[17:42] <curlyears> damned auto-complete. I ***HATE*** it!!!!   :p
[17:42] <BluesKaj> well I didn't use the 'F" word ...you did :-)
[17:42] <tgm4883> curlyears: you don't hate it. If you did, you wouldn't use it ;)
[17:42] <curlyears> BluesKaj: fair enough.  :p
[17:43] <curlyears> tgm4883: no, as much trouble as I have with it, it still gets people's nicks correctly more consistently than I do on my own.
[17:44] <curlyears> you hvwe to watch it like a hawk...just like auto-correct on texting..it can really get you in trouble sometimes
[17:45] <sdexter> ducasse: 'this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.'
[17:45] <delizin> I just spun up a new VPS with Ubuntu 16.04 and I can't seem to edit the /etc/hosts file. If I do nano /etc/hosts I get an error message stating "Error reading lock file /etc/.hosts.swp: Not enough data read". Any idea?
[17:46] <sdexter> and the the grub-install --force /dev/sdj failed error
[17:46] <curlyears> in any case, I am now gogin to see if I can use my >2TB drives WITHOUT UEFI, since I am not trying to boot from either of them.
[17:47] <BlueProtoman> I have a Qt 5.7 program that uses OpenGL, on Ubuntu 16.04.  I get the error "Could not initialize GLX", and then it aborts.  However, I do NOT get this problem with Qt Creator, as the Google results seem to suggest.  Any tips?
[17:47] <ducasse> sdexter: do you want to install in uefi or legacy mode?
[17:47] <akik> delizin: if nobody's editing that file, remove /etc/.hosts.swp. i think it's vi which backup file that is
[17:47] <curlyears> see ya's!!!
[17:48] <delizin> akik: Thanks, that took care of it
[17:48] <sdexter> I guess legacy
[17:49] <ducasse> sdexter: then it should just install to the mbr, afaik. you can create a bios boot partition if you want, however, and use that.
[17:49] <sdexter> ducasse: hmm I will give this another try
[17:52] <ducasse> sdexter: see this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#GUID_Partition_Table_.28GPT.29_specific_instructions
[17:53] <ducasse> sdexter: i didn't pay enough attention, had a hell of a day. gpt has no mbr - that's why it fails.
[18:05] <dancingdemon> hey guys
[18:06] <dancingdemon> I need some help if anyone can, I use this tagging script on ubuntu called lltag. It tags and renames music files.
[18:07] <dancingdemon> It has some internal FIELDS that it uses. It won't rename some songs because of undefined field..
[18:07] <dancingdemon> lltag --no-tagg --rename "%n.%a - %t" -g Electronic ~/ALBUM/*
[18:08] <dancingdemon> my issue is how to edit those fields ? like the song has a TAG called Tracknumber but the script seems unable to tell the %n which is NUMBER.
[18:09] <sdexter> ducasse: This is a reinstall of a server, and I have no details on how things were done the first time. So there is that
[18:26] <silli> hi guys
[18:26] <silli> i have a question
[18:26] <silli> i'm new on ubuntu
[18:26] <silli> i have the firewall inactive
[18:26] <silli> so, how i can open a port ?
[18:29] <tgm4883> silli: well if the firewall is inactive, then there's nothing blocking the ports
[18:29] <tgm4883> so nothing to open
[18:32] <silli> tgm4883 so my application will use the port without problems?
[18:35] <tgm4883> silli: well yes, it would use the port without issues regardless of the firewall. Now you might have other issues depending on where you are accessing it from
[18:39] <silli> ok thank you tgm
[18:49] <delizin> Just started using Ubuntu 16.04. I should be using Systemd instead of Upstart now, correct?
[18:50] <DArqueBishop> delizin: correct.
[18:50] <delizin> DArqueBishop: Thank you
[18:50] <jatt> yes
[18:50] <jatt> some indicators still use upstart
[18:52] <junior_> Caraca, irc
[18:53] <junior_> Pessoal aguem ai usa ammyy no ubuntu?
[18:54] <akik> !pt
[19:21] <varaindemian> why I loose internet connection rom time to time? Ubuntu 16.04? What can I provide in order to get help?
[19:25] <TheSpiderPig> I drink diet ubuntu only
[19:25] <TheSpiderPig> I'd be happy if it were caffeen free
[19:25]  * reisio chugs cold press
[19:26] <mrasker> hello
[19:26] <mrasker> I installed ubuntu 14.04 in my asus netbook and there is no sound when i connect the headphones.
[19:27] <mrasker> could anybody help me?
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> mrasker  open a terminal and type   alsamixer    if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[19:28] <mrasker> let me see...
[19:30] <mrasker> the headphones were already in RR but i can ear nothing, MonkeyDust
[19:30] <akik> mrasker: another thing you could check is pavucontrol. it's probably not installed by default
[19:31] <TheSpiderPig> mrasker: have you tried updating your dependencies
[19:31] <TheSpiderPig> i.e., run sudo apt-get update
[19:31] <TheSpiderPig> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:31] <TheSpiderPig> if you have and that hasnt fixed it, you'll need drivers for your audio device.
[19:31] <ioria> mrasker, what is RR ?
[19:31] <TheSpiderPig> you might have a specialty/non-standard sound card
[19:32] <mrasker> let me try pavucontrol
[19:33] <mrasker> ioria, my alsamixer shows RR when the sound is active and MM when it is muted
[19:33] <ioria> mrasker, should be == and MM
[19:33] <ioria> mrasker, sorry, 00 and MM
[19:34] <ioria> mrasker, 00 active MM muted
[19:37] <mrasker> nothing with pavucontrol
[19:37] <jaythelinuxguy> Hi guys - my understanding is that Ubuntu has changed to a local DNS resolver. I want to view the IP addresses of the DNS server(s) my desktop is using. If I view the contents of /etc/resolv.conf, it just gives me the IP address of local host. What command can I use in order to find out what DNS servers my box is *actually* using?
[19:37] <varaindemian> why I loose internet connection rom time to time? Ubuntu 16.04 What can I provide in order to get help?
[19:38] <akik> jaythelinuxguy: try "nmcli dev show" it has entries for DNS
[19:38] <skinux> Anyone know of a tool that will provide an ASCII representation of database table?
[19:39] <Ben64> skinux: "mysql"
[19:40] <jatt> skinux: henplus
[19:40] <jaythelinuxguy> Thanks, nmcli dev show seems to do it
[19:41] <dshap> Hey all, I'm running into this weird issue where converting a PDF to PNG with ImageMagick/Wand (python binding) is hanging on a file and then ultimately fails with a Bus error, and then Ubuntu is telling me that 95% of my disk space is used and it can't convert additional files when I try. This happened after I ran my conversion function for 500+ other files in a row, and throughout that time I was monitoring memory & disk usage and all seeme
[19:41] <dshap> normal. What's a good way to identify and clear out this disk usage (other than rebooting my machine, which seems to work)?
[19:41] <mohamed> hi
[19:46] <Bashing-om> dshap: Something like ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' . If you need to drill down further, use cd to move to a directory of interest then repeat the du command.
[19:46] <Bashing-om> The results are in megabytes,
[19:46] <Seveas> dshap: baobab if you want a gui
[19:46] <Ben64> or just use "ncdu"
[19:46] <madsa> dshap: so the problem clears up when you reboot?  maybe it's writing files to a tmpfs partition
[19:47] <Ben64> although if it is gone after reboot, might be an opened deleted file
[19:48] <Bashing-om> Ben64: dshap +1 on "ncdu" .. old habits do die hard .
[19:48] <dshap> madsa: When I first ssh onto the box in the welcome screen it says "Usage of /: 95% of 7.74GB" and that's when everything fails and I'm no longer able to run the conversion function. Then if I reboot, that usage goes way back down and then it works again for a while
[19:49] <dshap> Ben64: thanks for the tip on ncdu, looks pretty useful!
[19:50] <jaythelinuxguy> Yes, +1 for ncdu. I like to use ncdu -x to limit to the local file-system, so it doesn't scan network shares and what not
[19:52] <jaythelinuxguy> sudo apt-get clean may save you some space, but it will remove your APT archives, though
[19:52] <dshap> ncdu is showing 1G, 1.6G, and 2.8G directories within /tmp that start with "magick-"
[19:53] <dshap> seems like ImageMagick is creating these and not cleaning them up :(
[19:53] <dshap> I wonder if they're safe to delete manually
[19:54] <dshap> oh, they're files, not directories
[19:59] <awesomess3> I wish the JRE came with ubuntu. and now I'm gonna cry..........WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
[20:01] <Blix> wut up
[20:01] <roygbiv> the sky, as a matter of fact
[20:02] <arooni> trying to figure out autossh;  when i try ' autossh -f -M 0<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... it doesnt connect.  when i do ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>; it works fine :\
[20:02] <roygbiv> and no, i’m not a paid comedian, despite appearances
[20:06] <Blix> yo
[20:07] <Blix> can someone direct me to a noobie linux channel?
[20:07] <Blix> that's active
[20:07] <warbaque> 'apt update' stucks on '0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1560:8001::14)]'
[20:07] <xangua> awesomess3: it did 6 years ago, until Oracle bought them
[20:07] <Seveas> warbaque: can you wget http://security.ubuntu.com ?
[20:07] <varaindemian> is adobe-flashplugin reliable?
[20:07] <Seveas> varaindemian: no.
[20:08] <warbaque> pinging works
[20:08] <Seveas> warbaque: that's not what I asked
[20:08] <warbaque> wget doesn't seem to do anything either
[20:08] <Blix> wow
[20:08] <Blix> savage
[20:09] <varaindemian> Seveas: well I need something to run this http://harry.dw.com/cda/?language=en
[20:09] <Seveas> warbaque: can you wget http://seveas.net ?
[20:10] <genii> Blix: The general-purpose linux channel is ##linux , might want to try thre
[20:10] <xangua> varaindemian: that depends if you consider Adobe reliable as well, but if you just mean if it works, it works on Firefox and other browsers that supports Netscape plugins (chrome/chromium based browsers don't)
[20:10] <warbaque> Seveas: not on that server
[20:10] <Seveas> varaindemian: try the 'accessible version' and yell at them for living in the 90's :)
[20:10] <xangua> varaindemian: ups, that was for you
[20:11] <Seveas> warbaque: so your ipv6 connectivity is broken. Either fix or disable your ipv6 setup.
[20:11] <OerHeks> varaindemian, works fine in chrome/html5, without flash
[20:12] <Blix> genii, I think I need to permission to chat so I don't think it's a good spot for noobies
[20:12] <warbaque> where should I start? I have no idea how this is set up
[20:12] <OerHeks> Blix, the message gives a clue, no? register with freenode?
[20:13] <Blix> oh maybe, thx
[20:14] <reisio> OerHeks: without flash?
[20:14] <reisio> uses flash in my chrome
[20:15] <Seveas> warbaque: I can't possibly say. I don't even know if your box is meant to support ipv6 or not. Find the person who originally set it up...
[20:16] <warbaque> I'll just check how other virtual machines are set up
[20:16] <akik> chrome has a built-in flash player, pepperflash i think
[20:16] <tentacle> I updated a 14.04 to 16.04, now all my apt-get updates are failing with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20913559/ -- apt-key functions, and gnupg is installed. Anyone seen this?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> tentacle  are you using ppa's ?
[20:18] <tentacle> MoneyDust: none added that I can see
[20:18] <JakesDen> I am aving trobles, i want to open a .bz2 file and no matter if i use terminal or a archie manager it wont do anything
[20:18] <dancingdemon> hey guys, just a samll favor
[20:18] <Seveas> tentacle: pastebin the output of apt-key list
[20:18] <dancingdemon> what's wrong with this
[20:18] <dancingdemon> mv ${DISCNUMBER-1} "$a" "`printf %02g $TRACKNUMBER` - $TITLE.flac"
[20:19] <dancingdemon> without the discnumber part, It works fine
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> tentacle  i guess you have to coantact digital ocean
[20:19] <tentacle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20913964/
[20:19] <Seveas> dancingdemon: ${DISCNUMBER-1} is not valid syntax
[20:19] <JakesDen> any elp?
[20:20] <Seveas> JakesDen: is it a .bz2 or a .tar.bz2?
[20:20] <dancingdemon> how to get it to work Seveas
[20:20] <JakesDen> its a bz2 file with a img inside
[20:20] <Seveas> JakesDen: bunzip2 foo.bz2 will decompress it, giving you the .img
[20:20] <dancingdemon> someone said
[20:21] <dancingdemon> you'll want something like ${DISCNUMBER-1}
[20:21] <dancingdemon> where do i add this in here :
[20:21] <Seveas> dancingdemon: well, contact that person. I don't know what you asked them or why they said that.
[20:21] <dancingdemon> http://pastebin.com/mgf4j4Wp
[20:21] <dancingdemon> that's the script, I just want to have it rename files also with discnumber, so he said add this
[20:22] <JakesDen> Seveas, thanks! it work!
[20:23] <Seveas> dancingdemon: hmm. can discnumber potentially be empty, and do you want it to be '1' in that case?
[20:23] <dancingdemon> yes
[20:23] <dancingdemon> if its not in the tags, I want it to be 1
[20:24] <Seveas>  mv "$a" "$(printf '%g %02g' ${DISCNUMBER:-1} $TRACKNUMBER) - $TITLE.flac"
[20:24] <Relitivity> My linuxMint VB is in the middle if installing and it has paused and i cannot unpause it?
[20:25] <Seveas> Relitivity: try a linux mint channel
[20:25] <Relitivity> i have
[20:25] <Relitivity> no reply
[20:25] <Seveas> then try a linux mint forum. We don't support mint.
[20:25] <Seveas> Busy enough with just ubuntu things in here
[20:25] <Relitivity> ok sorry
[20:26] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues :-)
[20:26] <Seveas> features
[20:26] <reisio> Relitivity: try responding to people
[20:28] <Relitivity> yea sorry
[20:28] <dancingdemon> thanks a lot man
[20:28] <dancingdemon> but is there a chance to have it something like
[20:28] <Epx998> Can someone point me to a how-to for creating a new Ubuntu Netbook kernal with a specific driver added?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot seems to have let that answer out for #5
[20:28] <dancingdemon> 1/ ?
[20:29] <dancingdemon> like discnumber- or discnumber/
[20:29] <dancingdemon> mv "$a" "$(printf '%g %02g' ${DISCNUMBER:-1} $TRACKNUMBER) - $TITLE.flac"
[20:29] <buhatar> ?
[20:29] <reisio> Epx998: netbook or netboot?
[20:29] <Epx998> netboot
[20:29] <Epx998> lol
[20:29] <buhatar> eow\
[20:31] <buhatar> any good idea for network monitoiing tool?
[20:32] <tentacle> Seveas MonkeyDust so I need to contact DigitalOcean, re: apt-key
[20:32] <reisio> nettop?
[20:32] <dancingdemon> Seveas, Is there a chance I can have - after discnumber?
[20:33] <Seveas> tentacle: no, you need to show me the ouptut of apt-key list :)
[20:33] <Seveas> dancingdemon: %g-%02g
[20:33] <tentacle> Seveas: already pasted it :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/20913964/
[20:33] <Bashing-om> tentacle: A thought, might try ' sudo apt-key update ' see if the missing key is picked up ??
[20:33] <dancingdemon> thanks
[20:33] <Seveas> tentacle: ah, missed that, sorry.
[20:33] <tentacle> np
[20:34] <tentacle> Bashing-om: yeah, that doesn't work either. I feel like it's something trivial that's just being overlooked
[20:35] <Samy__> Hi, I was trying installing packages using apt-get in 16.04 but I am getting these errors now https://paste.kde.org/pen4swqf0
[20:35] <Seveas> tentacle: what does 'sudo apt-key update' do if it doesn't work?
[20:35] <tentacle> Seveas: it updates the 4 ubuntu keys -- processed: 4, unchanged: 4
[20:36] <Samy__> even sudo apt-get update gave this error https://paste.kde.org/psba1tqvd
[20:36] <Seveas> tentacle: switch of all proxies and use archive.ubuntu.com instead of in.archive
[20:36] <Seveas> err, that was for Samy__
[20:37] <Samy__> Seveas: proxies are off and how to use archive.ubuntu.com/
[20:37] <Samy__> instead of in.archive
[20:38] <OerHeks> Samy__, likely the in mirror is bein updates, try again in a few minutes, or change to main in softwaresources
[20:38] <OerHeks> c/being
[20:38] <Seveas> Samy__: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace in.archive.ubuntu.com with archive.ubuntu.com
[20:38] <Samy__> OerHeks: So it would be fine in sometime?
[20:39] <OerHeks> Samy__, sure, this happens sometimes
[20:39] <Seveas> Samy__: only if my guess (which is different from what OerHeks is thinking) is wrong :) (I'm thinking of blaming your isp, wouldn't be the first time for an indian isp to do this, even this week)
[20:40] <OerHeks> Seveas, i have seen this before in here :-(
[20:40] <Samy__> Seveas: yes Indian colleges have many proxied out here :(
[20:40] <OerHeks>  .in is not the fastest mirror
[20:41] <Seveas> OerHeks: I'm going by the most recent issue. Had a bad indian isp yesterday and haven't seen broken mirrors in a while
[20:42] <OerHeks> India	45 Mbps	1 mirror Indian Institute of Technology Madras ...	One week behind
[20:43] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:43] <Samy__> Seveas: what you mean by bad indian isp?
[20:44] <Samy__> the change worked though. What was the issue?
[20:46] <Seveas> Samy__: looks like oerheks was right after all :)
[20:47] <OerHeks> partly wrong, this will not be solved in an hour, perhaps holliday time ?
[20:47] <Seveas> Samy__: we had a person in here the other day whose isp did reall nasty things to his traffic, including manipulating DNS traffic to <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:47] <Samy__> so the in.archives mirror was down and you made me switch to other one?
[20:48] <Samy__> OerHeks: so holiday time at the IIT madras you mean? :D
[20:48] <OerHeks> Samy__, yes
[20:48] <Seveas> hmm, I could go for chicken madras :)
[20:49] <Samy__> OerHeks: yep it was the summer holidas time though :D
[20:49] <Samy__> but that shouldn't keep the servers off lol
[20:49] <Samy__> which server is archives.ubuntu  I mean of what place or is it a global?
[20:49] <OerHeks> maybe they have chosen for manual updating the .in mirrors
[20:50] <Seveas> Samy__: it's in the uk
[20:50] <OerHeks> anyway, main works for you
[20:50] <Samy__> yep it does :) and Seveas madras has some really good south indian food hehe apart from chicken :D
[20:51] <Samy__> thanks for the help :)
[20:51] <Seveas> Samy__: you indians are good at good food and terrible helpdesks :P
[20:52] <Samy__> Seveas: thats not true for all helpdesks :P you might have encountered a wrong one
[20:52]  * OerHeks never tasted such rich flavors as indian food
[20:52] <Samy__> We are too good in hospitality :D
[20:56] <OerHeks> !trim > OerHeks
[20:57] <Seveas> OerHeks: /msg ubottu trim :P
[21:00] <knob> Hello everyone.
[21:00] <Seveas> \o
[21:00] <knob> I am trying to install Android Studio and... not sure how to go about fixing this problem --> http://pastebin.com/4vnTULU1
[21:00] <knob> After I run   umake android android-studio  ... I run into a ppa not present error (I believe).
[21:00] <knob> Any idea how this could be fixed?
[21:01] <Seveas> that ppa hasn't been updated since utopic, 14.04
[21:01] <knob> Seveas, ahhh... so that's where I messed up!
[21:01] <OerHeks> knob, https://launchpad.net/~didrocks/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-developer-tools-center no xenial versions ..
[21:01] <Seveas> so either go back to ubuntu 14.04 or find up-to-date instructions for android studio
[21:02] <OerHeks> that page gives a clue > Depreciated in favor of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-make
[21:02] <knob> wow... I thought I was following the most recent instructions.
[21:03] <k1l> !ubuntu-make | knob
[21:05] <knob> Thanks for the help guys, yet I'm lost as to what to do.   IS umake the way to go?  Should I remove these PPAs?
[21:05] <OerHeks> knob, yes, you can safely remove them, as there was never been a package installed
[21:06] <OerHeks> remove/disable them from softwaresources, or to be sure: use ppa-purge
[21:06] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[21:08] <knob> Ok... so my /etc/apt/sources.list  shows the following: http://pastebin.com/79A39tky
[21:08] <knob> not sure what I can remove from there?
[21:09] <OerHeks> knob, no, that list was the old way, now ppa get their own instance list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  folder
[21:10] <knob> ahhhhh wow... ok yes, I see it now!
[21:10] <OerHeks> :-)
[21:13] <knob> I don't even know where I'm standing.   I ran ppa-purge, on the first package... and it returned an error that it doesn't have a release file.
[21:13] <knob> http://pastebin.com/9m8ZXNjg
[21:15] <OerHeks> knob, look at the ppa page, remove it with ppa-purge ppa:didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center  >>> ( green line) https://launchpad.net/~didrocks/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-developer-tools-center
[21:18] <knob> http://pastebin.com/s6JvcBB6
[21:19] <knob> this... I can't even comprehend.  I always try to read the instructions, and learn the "why" behind things... yet I don't even know which way is up with these ppa things.
[21:21] <Bashing-om> knob: http://ppa.launchpad.net/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/ubuntu/dists/ indicats that xenial is not supported . Hummmm .
[21:22] <knob> I don't even know what that means.  I don't even know if I want it out.  I just don't know where I'm standing.
[21:22] <knob> I am trying to remove the PPA (I think!), and it tells me it can't because of a problem with that PPA
[21:22] <knob> I mean, wth?!
[21:23] <knob> can I delete the directories?
[21:23] <knob> If ppa-purge doesn't run because of an error I have... what other options?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> knob: Not knowing how you installed that PPA, not much I can say other than " ubuntu-developer-tools-center/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages " >> 404 is valid as that package is not supported in xental per: http://ppa.launchpad.net/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/ubuntu/dists/ .
[21:25] <knob> Ok... and from this: http://pastebin.com/s6JvcBB6    I believe I am trying to remove the ppa didrocks... and... it's complaining that that ppa is no longer supported?
[21:26] <knob> Well, how can I remove it?
[21:26] <knob> I mean
[21:26] <knob> I don't get this or how to even start
[21:26] <knob> how
[21:27] <knob> how do I just remove this?
[21:27] <knob> can I remove it from the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   ??
[21:27] <tgm4883> knob: did you install anything from that PPA?
[21:27] <knob> I don't know
[21:27] <knob> don't remember
[21:27] <knob> don't know
[21:27] <knob> all this is to install Android Studio
[21:28] <knob> can´t I just yank it out?   Deal with later problems... later?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> knob: Well .. you can not remove something - in the manner you are trying - for something that does not exist " ubuntu-developer-tools-center/ubuntu xenial " .see the xenial ... not supported .
[21:28] <genii> That PPA only has Trusty and Utopic , no Xenial
[21:28] <tgm4883> knob: yea
[21:28] <knob> I don't understand what that means..   what?
[21:28] <knob> So ... I can't remove it because it doesn't exist?
[21:28] <tgm4883> knob: how did you add the PPA?
[21:28] <knob> I don't know
[21:29] <tgm4883> knob: ok, try this
[21:29] <knob> apparently, this was it (from history | grep ppa):  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center
[21:29] <tgm4883> knob: ok, you just did that recently?
[21:29] <knob> yes
[21:29] <knob> last hour or so
[21:30] <tgm4883> knob: ok, so just delete that file from your sources.list.d directory
[21:30] <OerHeks> NOT http://ppa.launchpad.net/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/ubuntu/dists/ . but >>>>  ppa:didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center
[21:30] <knob> haven't installed anything else in this past hour... so I don't think I will "hang-up" anything
[21:30] <knob> Yay!\
[21:30] <tgm4883> knob: yea that's fine
[21:30] <knob> Yes, that's what I did: sudo ppa-purge ppa:didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center
[21:30] <Epx998> I am trying to find out what package will install a binary (that is not yet installed) - there a apt that will do that?
[21:30] <tgm4883> the ppa-purge command is only necessary if you installed stuff from that PPA
[21:30] <tgm4883> which you didn't
[21:31] <knob> Ohhh
[21:31] <knob> Wow.   BTW, thank you all guys.  Much appreciated.  I know it's hard sometimes to deal with somebody as thick as me.  So thank you!
[21:31] <tgm4883> knob: you couldn't have, which you've already found out (since it's complaining that the xenial PPA doesn't exist)
[21:31] <knob> On my way to remove those manually via command line
[21:31] <OerHeks> oh oke, not used ppa can be removed manually, and not with ppa-purge, i'll remember that
[21:32] <tgm4883> OerHeks: yep, and if they do something dumb like adding a PPA for a different version (eg. adding the PPA with trusty sources on a xenial box) there is a option to run ppa-purge for a different release
[21:32] <tgm4883> -d [distribution]	Override the default distribution choice
[21:33] <OerHeks> ty
[21:35] <psyguy2> hey all, anyone know how to make a grub iso that i can use to book a particular ubuntu partition in virtual box?
[21:35] <psyguy2> boot
[21:36] <knob> Ok super.  So now I am following these instructions to install Android Studio
[21:36] <knob> http://askubuntu.com/questions/634082/how-to-install-android-studio-on-ubuntu
[21:36] <Guest323> hi
[21:36] <knob> And when I go to the android.com site, it automatically directs me to "nothingness" https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[21:37] <knob> anybody get this error?   If you click on the download link... it goes into nothingness.
[21:38] <psyguy2> ye knob, not downloading for me either
[21:38] <knob> ok at least I'm not crazy.  Thanks psyguy2
[21:40] <knob> psyguy2, wow, I switch to Chrome, and it's downloading
[21:40] <knob> -_-
[21:40] <psyguy2> im using chrome tho
[21:41] <Bashing-om> knob: I am on Chrome and https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html completes also for me .
[21:41] <knob> then... I have no idea.  The spice of life.
[21:44] <Wicaeed> HI all, where would I start looking to try and pin down the reason an Ubuntu 14 VM running on ESXI would be showing an abnormal amount of siq usage?
[21:46] <gh0stun1x> hola
[22:03] <Epx998> If I need a i386 version of a package, is adding a i386 repo to apt.sources the best way to do it?
[22:03] <rattking> oh man. with 16.04 mounting a ramdisk over /tmp I am running out of space trying to use make-jpkg..
[22:04] <Seveas> Epx998: there's no such thing as an 'i386 repo' :)
[22:05] <Bashing-om> Epx998: No. Try ' sudo apt install <package>:i386 ' .
[22:05] <Seveas> Epx998: dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt-get install yourpackage:i386
[22:05] <Epx998> Seveas: I need to install libreadline6:i386 - not sure how to do that in Ubuntu, on a 64bit instal
[22:05] <Epx998> ah kk
[22:05] <Epx998> ty sirs
[22:08] <rattking> I guess I will 1 off the mktemp line to use /var/tmp
[22:24] <sam__> jammer
[22:26] <gtl> hey guys, i need help
[22:27] <gtl> i upgrade ubuntu (to 16.04)
[22:27] <gtl> and now can not start networking with error (RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring up eth0)
[22:29] <ikonia> gtl: how did you upgrade
[22:29] <ikonia> there is no official upgrade option yet
[22:29] <hdon> hi all :) we want to use btrfs snapshots as the basis for a backup system. snapper looks nice, but it's for opensuse and apparently doesn't play nicely with ubuntu. are there any alternatives?
[22:29] <gtl> dist-upgrade command
[22:29] <ikonia> gtl: upgrade from what version to 16.04
[22:30] <Bashing-om> gtl: "eth0" no longer exist in 16.04. See if https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ helps shed some light on what is not going on .
[22:30]  * tgm4883 notes that a dist-upgrade command shouldn't upgrade you to 16.04
[22:30] <ikonia> it won't
[22:30] <gtl> 15.10
[22:30] <ikonia> gtl: dist upgrade will not upgrade you to 16.04
[22:30] <ikonia> so how did you upgrade
[22:30] <tgm4883> I mean, it will, if you do some very bad things
[22:31] <gtl> but I still get xenial with lsb_release -a command
[22:32] <ikonia> gtl: exactly how did you upgrade - EXACTLY
[22:32] <gtl> which I did today and now there is problem!
[22:32] <tgm4883> gtl: what's the exact command that you ran to upgrade?
[22:32] <gtl> let me check the link by Bashing-om
[22:33] <gtl> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[22:33] <gtl> ikonia: this was the tutorial
[22:34] <ikonia> another utter garbage tutorial