[03:43] <hmrocha> It only happens when I use firefox to access some websites.
[03:43] <avalost> hmm, have you tried other browsers on the same sites?
[03:44] <hmrocha> I tried epiphany, X crashes too.
[03:44] <hmrocha> Maybe it's a gecko problem.
[03:44] <hmrocha> I really don't want to install fedora on this machine.
[03:44] <kbrooks> Don't.
[03:44] <chrissturm> guys, after installing phppgadmin, how do i access it?
[03:44] <makinen> rob^: Sure it is. :/  Would you happen to know if 2.6.12 kernel has been backported to hoary?
[03:44] <hmrocha> I really like ubuntu, and I don't have this problem at home.
[03:45] <runeb_> hmrocha: Disable all plugins and try again
[03:45] <hmrocha> runeb_, i don't have plugins in firefox
[03:45] <hmrocha> runeb_, only flash
[03:45] <hmrocha> (using hoary btw)
[03:45] <runeb_> hmrocha: What does about:plugins say ?
[03:45] <othernoob> makinen: afaik no
[03:46] <avalost> what sites make you crash?
[03:46] <rob^> makinen, I dont think it has been no
[03:46] <hmrocha> http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/
[03:46] <rob^> apt-cache shows nothing
[03:46] <sJaM> chrissturm, perhaps by entering in your browers by localhost/phppgadmin
[03:46] <hmrocha> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[03:46] <hmrocha> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[03:46] <hmrocha> runeb_, only these two
[03:47] <chrissturm> sJaM, perhaps
[03:47] <runeb_> hmrocha: And it crash when you visit faqs.org ?
[03:47] <chrissturm> if that worked i wouldnt have asked
[03:48] <hmrocha> No, when I click some links, but it's a little random the behaviour
[03:48] <hmrocha> Sometimes it crashes, sometimes it doesn't
[03:48] <sJaM> well it works with phpmyadmin
[03:48] <hmrocha> runeb_, I'll delete all the firefox directory
[03:48] <kbrooks> hmrocha, No.
[03:48] <hmrocha> kbrooks, ok
[03:49] <kbrooks> hmrocha, Reinstall firefox
[03:49] <hmrocha> I supposed it was because i'm using two monitors, but i tried with just one monitor and it happens too.
[03:50] <kbrooks> hmrocha, dont blame it on hardware initally pls
[03:50] <Will_> I should really setup xinerama. I've a second videocard doing nothing in this box
[03:50] <makinen> ok, have to use the nv driver for now unless I find out something
[03:50] <sJaM> chrissturm, did you do a ls /var/www then
[03:50] <sJaM> to see the possible options
[03:50] <hmrocha> Will_, i'm using two monitors with just one graphics card
[03:51] <chrissturm> the phppgadmin doc say it should run on /phppgadmin. but it doesnt
[03:51] <hmrocha> kbrooks, i'll install firefox again
[03:51] <sJaM> what does ls /var/www
[03:51] <sJaM> gives
[03:51] <sJaM> then
[03:52] <runeb_> hmrocha: But it happens also in epiphany
[03:53] <nasky> I've typed "modprobe snd-sb16" for 20 minutes... and nothing happens. It's a long time, ain't it ???
[03:53] <runeb_> Re-install both
[03:54] <hmrocha> runeb_, i don't use epiphany, i just installed to see if it was a firefox problem, since it wasn't, i removed it
[03:55] <sJaM> chrissturm, how did you install it then, by apt-get install phpgpadmin ?
[03:55] <phanter> nasky, yes that is a (to) long time
[03:56] <uber_newber> im trying to install my lyknsis wireless b network adapter, and sum1 told mei needed this driver thing called at76c503, so i downloaded it but what do i do now?
[03:56] <runeb_> hmrocha: If that do not work try downloading from: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.4/
[03:56] <kungkang> hey guys, i recently built a <IP_ADDRESS> kernel so that i could use the latest inotify (so i can use beagle) but when i boot the kernel it ignores mounting my ext3 /home partition (which is on a separate harddrive). the device is correctly identified as /dev/hdb. what could be the cause of this?
[03:57] <kungkang> mount gives an error saying that the filesystem is already mounted when i try to do it manually, but when i try to umount it it says that it is not mounted.
[03:58] <nasky> phanter, what could be the problem ??
[03:58] <uber_newber> can ne1 help me out?
[03:59] <pluffsy> hello
[03:59] <uber_newber> hi
[03:59] <rob^> night all
[04:00] <sJaM> nice weather at my place
[04:00] <nasky> :) here it's 15h00 :)
[04:00] <nasky> 3 pm :)
[04:00] <sJaM> 4 pm
[04:00] <nasky> 4 yes ;)
[04:00] <uber_newber> 10:00 in da morning
[04:00] <kbrooks> sane
[04:00] <kbrooks> same
[04:00] <kbrooks> uber_newber, ask
[04:01] <uber_newber> ask what?
[04:01] <kbrooks> a question
[04:01] <uber_newber> im trying to install my lyknsis wireless b network adapter, and sum1 told mei needed this driver thing called at76c503, so i downloaded it but what do i do now?
[04:01] <uber_newber> :)
[04:01] <pluffsy> I have been testing ubuntu a little on my mac. But now I need to install ubuntu on a few years old X86-computer. I have almost none experience with x86. How hard will it be to get ubuntu running? Is it difficult to get the install cd to boot or do I just press a key like on the mac? Will the install cd create a boot loader and such for the installed version for me? Are there anything special I should worry about?
[04:01] <kbrooks> uber_newber, dont dl. try modprobing the specific driver
[04:01] <kbrooks> uber_newber, as a test
[04:02] <uber_newber> ya, orob is im a newb, can u tell me how to do that
[04:02] <bigfoot1> hello all, a quick question: how can i change the default application associated with a file extension?
[04:02] <sobersabre> helloyo, does anybody know how to import a certificate into evolution ?
[04:02] <uber_newber> *prob
[04:02] <kbrooks> applications > system tools
[04:02] <uber_newber> then what
[04:02] <kbrooks> then terminal
[04:02] <uber_newber> k
[04:02] <runeb_> pluffsy: We run Ubuntu on Mac. I remember we spent some time figuring out which key to press for it to boot. Otherwise it was straight forward
[04:03] <kbrooks> sudo modprobe at76c503
[04:03] <kbrooks> type your user password
[04:03] <pluffsy> runeb: but I have the opposite problem. I AM a mac user and now I'm going to install ubuntu on x86 ("PC")
[04:04] <kbrooks> paste the output, including the command typed, onto the pastebin
[04:04] <bigfoot1> Hello:In nautilus, how can one change the default application associated with each file extension?
[04:04] <runeb_> pluffsy: It is easy. Just make sure the bios is set to boot from the media yoiu aer using.
[04:04] <uber_newber> says sumthin like FAtal MODPROBE NOT FOUND
[04:04] <kbrooks> uber_newber, are you sure? show me the output
[04:05] <pluffsy> runeb: erm... not sure how to access bios. but sounds good it's easy
[04:05] <mindspin> pluffsy press del when the machine boots
[04:05] <bigfoot1> mindspin:In nautilus, how can one change the default application associated with each file extension?
[04:05] <pluffsy> runeb: I guess there are something kind of gui for selecting the startup disk when I'm in windows too?
[04:05] <runeb_> pluffsy: WHen you start your x86 you should get a message telling you to press a button for the bios setup
[04:05] <uber_newber> luke@ubuntuLuke:~$ sudo modprobe at76c503
[04:05] <uber_newber> Password:
[04:05] <uber_newber> FATAL: Module at76c503 not found.
[04:06] <mindspin> bigfoot i use kde;-)
[04:06] <bigfoot1> Seveas, do you use gnome?
[04:06] <kbrooks> uber_newber, ok.
[04:06] <runeb_> pluffsy: This is before you see any GUI
[04:06] <bigfoot1> mindspin, ok thanks.
[04:06] <lesshaste> I just attempted to install sshfs and all seemed fine. When I run it I get "sshfs: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Any ideas?
[04:06] <mindspin> pluffsy it can also be f12, or f8, depends on the bios of the machine
[04:07] <kbrooks> uber_newber, wat drivers didf you dl?
[04:07] <kbrooks> did*
[04:07] <uber_newber> ill show ya the site
[04:07] <runeb_> pluffsy: This is how it look like http://www.mysuperpc.com/pc_assembly/bios_main_menu.jpg
[04:08] <runeb_> pluffsy: Depending on your bios manufacturer
[04:09] <pluffsy> runeb: oh looks a bit weird. where do I select startup volume?
[04:10] <Ghetek> I am reading this wiki howto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary?highlight=%28lamp%29 and i need help doing this "Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache." (in apache2.conf) i just dont know where this is and what group i am in, or where to find the text in this file
[04:10] <mindspin> pluffsy dont make an easy thing complicated what kinda bios is it?
[04:11] <pluffsy> mindspin: no idea. but I'll probably figure it out. thanks.
[04:11] <pluffsy> still funny you can't do simple stuff easy on a pc, like a standardized start from external media key wouldn't be hard to implement.
[04:11] <mindspin> just start the machine its saying "award bios blah" or something else
[04:12] <uber_newber> http://download.berlios.de/at76c503a/at76c503-0.11.tar.gz
[04:12] <uber_newber> i think this is it
[04:12] <runeb_> pluffsy: Just try to start the machine a couple of times and notice all messages.
[04:12] <mindspin> for me its acool feature to disable booting from cd via bios
[04:12] <runeb_> mindspin: Why ?
[04:13] <mindspin> to avoid people to do bad things;-)
[04:13] <mindspin> or accidently installing windows :-)
[04:13] <runeb_> mindspin: Just telle them to read the EULA and they want
[04:14] <chrissturm> sjam: yep sudo apt-get install phpgpadmin
[04:14] <mindspin> one of the most hated feature of win95 forme was autostart
[04:15] <uber_newber> im trying to install my lyknsis wireless b network adapter, and sum1 told mei needed this driver thing called at76c503, so i downloaded it but what do i do now?
[04:16] <uber_newber> kbrooks> heres the site http://download.berlios.de/at76c503a/at76c503-0.11.tar.gz
[04:17] <sJaM> chrissturm, I also install postgres and phppgadmin
[04:17] <sJaM> chrissturm, and I don't find any entry in /var/www
[04:18] <chrissturm> sJaM, me too
[04:18] <chrissturm> sJaM, it doenst need to be there, it can also be defined in some config file
[04:18] <kbrooks> uber_newber, brb
[04:18] <uber_newber> k
[04:19] <sJaM> perhaps you need to make a soft link yourself
[04:20] <sJaM> do
[04:20] <mindspin> sJaM what do you want to get running?
[04:21] <sJaM> sudo ln -s /usr/share/phppgadmin /var/www/phppgadmin
[04:21] <sJaM> this works
[04:22] <kbrooks> ok
[04:22] <sJaM> with phpmyadmin that soft link is automatically made
[04:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: ping
[04:23] <kbrooks> nalioth, pong
[04:24] <sJaM> chrissturm, did it work ?
[04:24] <Xappe> hmm, trying to compile the latest (stable) gplflash on my ppc hoary. error in ./configure cause it can't find x11 development files, and I have libx11-dev installed
[04:24] <kbrooks> uber_newber, pm me
[04:24] <chrissturm> sJaM, nope
[04:24] <sJaM> it didn't ?
[04:24] <sJaM> it did by me
[04:24] <Xappe> any suggestions?
[04:24] <sJaM> hmm
[04:24] <aaron-c> anyone got experience with samnba and mac osx
[04:24] <sJaM> what is the output of
[04:25] <sJaM> ls -l /var/www/
[04:26] <xoz> aaron-c: what's the problem?
[04:27] <nalioth> Xappe: try xorg dev files
[04:27] <embalmer>  . -/oo\- .
[04:28] <heulSuSE> Wei jemand wo ich den Fehler suchen muss, wenn meine Sound total verzerrt ist? Ich hab ne soundblaster live! 24Bit. Hab den Treiber fr den Chip von alsa installiert.  I installed the driver from alsa. But now there come's only waste out of my speakers. I don't know where to grapple the problem.
[04:33] <Xappe> nalioth: I want to get a version that doesn't crash my firefox
[04:33] <Winux> Do you know one IRC client for Linux that protects against Flooding?
[04:34] <nalioth> Xappe: i run ppc, also, do you just follow the flash inst for x86, but use gplflash instead?
[04:34] <Xappe> nalioth: http://ubuntuppc.info/AddOnApplications/FlashAndSWF
[04:34] <moparfan90> hello.... i need help  adding repositories to my sourse list and dont know what to do. any help would be great
[04:35] <nalioths_dog> moparfan90: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:35] <El_Che> Winux: irssi (command line), problaby Xchat too (graphical)
[04:35] <xChil1> hi, has anyone experience with installing bibus under ubuntu?
[04:35] <mindspin> heulSUSE how did you install the driver?
[04:35] <nalioth> moparfan90: do you need a sources.list, also?
[04:36] <nalioth> xChil1: what is bibus?
[04:36] <heulSuSE> mindspin: This way: http://www.ubuntu-de.org/viewtopic.php?t=1849&highlight=ca0106
[04:36] <Xr|p> Anyone know a good ftpclient for ubuntu live cd ?
[04:37] <nalioth> Xr|p: gftp
[04:37] <moparfan90> i dont know.... let me get  that link
[04:37] <Panzerboy> Xr|p: mc
[04:37] <El_Che> Xr|p: gftp present?
[04:37] <mindspin> open synaptic with sudo synaptic go to multimedia and install what you need
[04:37] <Panzerboy> btw
[04:37] <apokryphos> bob2: it worked! I can't thank you enough; thanks. :)
[04:37] <xChil1> nalioth: a scientific referencing program for OO. i have found it in synaptic. but it shows me some dependencies it cant resolve (python)
[04:37] <moparfan90> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[04:37] <Panzerboy> hello all :)
[04:37] <mindspin> its not the best idea to compile stuff by yerself
[04:37] <xChil1> nalioth: http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/
[04:37] <apokryphos> bob2: though, that problem should really be sorted out... bad to have conflicting libraries (or whatever it is)
[04:37] <nalioth> xChil1: are you using official repos?
[04:37] <bob2> apokryphos: talk to nvidia
[04:37] <mindspin> its better tu use the package management system
[04:37] <Xappe> nalioth: so, can you namedrop any packages that could be the solution to my problem? Seems to be that I have the x-dev and  libx11-dev packages installed
[04:38] <apokryphos> bob2: they don't make the Ubuntu packages...
[04:38] <nalioth> moparfan90: some of those repos are not advised for regular and continued use
[04:38] <bob2> apokryphos: I really doubt the problem is with the packaging
[04:38] <bob2> tho I've lost the url
[04:38] <bob2> and you didn't use #flood
[04:38] <moparfan90> how do i do it with synpaica?
[04:38] <apokryphos> bob2: I needed to do it in order to compile KDE SVN (among other things). Suffice it to say, others doing this haven't had the problem
[04:38] <bob2> so I forget what the problem was
[04:38] <xChil1> nalioth: in order to find bibos in synaptic i added 2 reps taken from (http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/html/en/introduction.html#mozTocId157381)
[04:38] <mindspin> heulSuSE:  open synaptic with sudo synaptic go to multimedia and install what you need
[04:38] <nalioth> Xappe: i just compiled gplflash (since you mentioned it the first time) w/o a problem. let me look a minute
[04:38] <xChil1> nalioth: that what u asked?
[04:38] <apokryphos> bob2: I can get it again if you want...
[04:39] <mindspin> heulSuSE:  its better tu use the package management system
[04:39] <nalioth> xChil1: yes, and that may be what is causing your problems
[04:39] <heulSuSE> mindspin: Yes, but this driver ist not in the repository
[04:39] <xChil1> nalioth: oh, how come? thought thats synaptic is the best way to go to install stuff....
[04:40] <Geist|Patrick> urgs...
[04:40] <Xappe> nalioth, ok
[04:40] <mindspin> even not in universe?
[04:40] <Geist|Patrick> i need the console command for renaming
[04:40] <mindspin> mv
[04:40] <Geist|Patrick> mv?
[04:40] <mindspin> yep or cp
[04:40] <Geist|Patrick> mv = move file
[04:40] <xChil1> nalioth: what way would you suggest me to go?
[04:40] <mindspin> for copy
[04:40] <nalioth> xChil1: yes it is, but you can't mix strange repositories (they are not all on teh same sheet of music)
[04:40] <Geist|Patrick> rename
[04:40] <mindspin> no mv
[04:40] <apokryphos> bob2: aha, found the ubuntu bug report: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6960
[04:40] <El_Che> Geist|Patrick: mv
[04:40] <alpha> anyone know how to get microsoft streaming media to work in firefox?
[04:40] <heulSuSE> mindspin: How can I search for a driver in the repository?
[04:40] <nalioth> xChil1: hang on a minute
[04:40] <xChil1> nalioth: sure
[04:41] <mindspin> I would guess that there is no need for special drivers
[04:41] <mindspin> I never needed to install adriver...
[04:41] <nalioth> xChil1: does your bibus repos have 'source repos' available or just binary?
[04:42] <Xr|p> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[04:42] <xChil1> nalioth: lemme check that
[04:42] <Xr|p> when trying to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <alpha> anyone know how to get microsoft streaming media to work in firefox?
[04:42] <nalioth> Xappe: try 'xlibs-dev'
[04:42] <xChil1> nalioth: both.
[04:43] <osity> anyone know how to setup a software raid1 on ubuntu...
[04:43] <Geist|Patrick> why doesnt captive notice
[04:43] <Xappe> nalioth: ok, i'm checking that out
[04:43] <Geist|Patrick> that the necessary drivers are in /var/lib/captive?
[04:43] <nalioth> xChil1: do you have the deb-src enabled in your sources.list?
[04:44] <nalioth> alpha, please wait a few minutes 'tween the same question, in anyone knows the answer, they will speak up
[04:44] <moparfan90> ok... bye
[04:44] <lapo> hi there
[04:44] <alpha> nalioth: i find usally if you don't say it twice when theres lots of traffic no one notices it
[04:44] <xChil1> nalioth: sorry, what you mean? what i did: i added 2 reps. taken from (http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/html/en/introduction.html#mozTocId157381) one appeas as Bin the other as source. i activated both in synaptic.
[04:45] <El_Che> alpha: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:45] <xChil1> nalioth: that what u asked for?
[04:45] <heulSuSE> mindspin: Somebody hier in the channel told me to do this that way. Without I can't load a driver for the sound-card.
[04:45] <alpha> El_Che: thanks
[04:45] <Xr|p> is there any dir I'
[04:45] <Xr|p> 'mallowed to extractto ?
[04:45] <Xr|p> damn fucked space
[04:46] <Geist|Patrick> captive is asking for lokalized ntoskrnl.exe
[04:46] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: yes, from your local installed copy of windows
[04:46] <Geist|Patrick> what means localized
[04:46] <Xr|p> Where can I extract files with a live CD, allways get denied...
[04:47] <nalioth> Xr|p: do you want to keep the files after you stop using the livecd?
[04:47] <Panzerboy> Xr|p: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[04:47] <Xappe> nalioth, what is the plugindir for firefox? /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins? and should I give that dir during the make install? btw, thanks for your help, that worked
[04:47] <nomed> hi
[04:47] <Panzerboy> nomed: hey
[04:47] <nomed> where can i find alsaconf ?
[04:47] <Panzerboy> nomed: apparently it's not in ubuntu
[04:47] <nomed> i have alsa-base and alsa-utils
[04:48] <nomed> i see :/
[04:48] <Panzerboy> i remember i read somewhere about this
[04:48] <Panzerboy> maybe in the forums?
[04:48] <Panzerboy> !ubuntuforums
[04:48] <nalioth> Xappe: that is one, there is also one for mozilla suite, if you have that installed
[04:48] <ubotu> Panzerboy: No idea
[04:48] <Panzerboy> !forums
[04:48] <nomed> but is there anything similar ?
[04:48] <Panzerboy> !forums alsaconf
[04:49] <nomed> who's the bot?
[04:49] <nikkia> Panzer, we discussed it here the other night
[04:49] <Xappe> nalioth: ok, thank you very much. hope this will work now...I hate it when flash sites crash my firefox
[04:49] <Panzerboy> nikkia: i missed this discussion
[04:49] <Whistler> is it possible to install ubuntu on one computer and then put this hdd into other on
[04:50] <Whistler> one
[04:50] <nalioth> Xappe: i never bothered with it until you mentioned it
[04:50] <Jowi> Whistler, depending on the BIOS i would say
[04:50] <nalioth> Xappe: but good luck
[04:50] <Panzerboy> nomed: ubotu is the bot
[04:50] <nomed> so no alsaconf .. but does discover do the same?
[04:50] <Panzerboy> bow before the mighty ubotu
[04:50] <Whistler> Jowi both are award
[04:51] <Jowi> Whistler, some BIOS'es uses different ways of enumerating the hardware... there is no way of knowing until you try i'm afraid
[04:51] <Jowi> Whistler, even different versions of award
[04:51] <Xappe> nalioth: it's the version of libflash in the repos that screws things up. hope a newer version will please my boiling mind
[04:55] <phanter> Whistler, I tried it and it worked quite well (had to change some things afterwards though)
[04:55] <ahrtal123> hello
[04:56] <phanter> Whistler, try the same with winXP and you will ripp your hair out :>
[04:56] <ahrtal123> I need to know how to change the default boot in GRUB
[04:56] <moparfan90> i cant get limewire working can someone help me
[04:57] <apokryphos> ahrtal123: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#grubdefos
[04:57] <ahrtal123> thanks!
[04:57] <itz> http://pastebin.com/311913   hde5 says unmounted but when fsck.ext3 it says its mounted... what to do?
[04:57] <nalioth> moparfan90: could you use gtk-gnutella instead? it serves the same purpose
[04:58] <moparfan90> i think i have that its so slow
[04:58] <moparfan90> limewire is faster
[04:58] <hmrocha> kbrooks, i had to remove the .mozilla directory
[04:58] <hmrocha> kbrooks, i think it's working fine now
[04:58] <nalioth> moparfan90: have you installed java?
[04:58] <moparfan90> i think
[04:58] <moparfan90> how can i check
[04:58] <kbrooks> moparfan90, java -version
[04:59] <nalioth> moparfan90: open a terminal and type what kbrooks said
[04:59] <moparfan90> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.0 20050301 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)
[04:59] <moparfan90> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[04:59] <moparfan90> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[04:59] <moparfan90> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[04:59] <kbrooks> uh
[04:59] <kbrooks> moparfan90, are you on debian?
[04:59] <alpha> people still use limewire? and not bittorrent?
[04:59] <nalioth> moparfan90: please dont paste more than 2 lines
[04:59] <moparfan90> ubuntu
[04:59] <alpha> hehe
[04:59] <nalioth> kbrooks: its an ubuntu pkg
[05:00] <nalioth> moparfan90: what is the trouble with limewire?
[05:00] <kbrooks> nalioth, ubuntu breezy?
[05:00] <moparfan90> when i try to open it nothing happens
[05:00] <itz> http://pastebin.com/311913   hde5 says unmounted but when fsck.ext3 it says its mounted... what to do?
[05:01] <Panzerboy> maybe limewire doesn't work with gcj
[05:01] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: try to start it from a terminal
[05:01] <moparfan90> how
[05:01] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: see if there are some errors
[05:01] <nalioth> moparfan90: are you running hoary or breezy?
[05:01] <kbrooks> limewire
[05:01] <moparfan90> the new one
[05:01] <Panzerboy> oh
[05:01] <nalioth> Panzerboy: gcj provides a symlink for "/usr/bin/java"
[05:01] <nalioth> moparfan90: how new?
[05:01] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: right click on the desktop, then open terminal
[05:02] <Panzerboy> then type limewire
[05:02] <moparfan90> bash: limewire: command not found
[05:02] <rasputnik> LVM is awesome.
[05:02] <Panzerboy> nalioth: that doesn't matter, maybe limewire uses some parts of java that are not yet implemented in gcj, or that are buggy in gcj
[05:02] <Xappe> nalioth, well, so far it seems to be more stable, so I guess that was a good thing to do
[05:02] <amichai> anyone know of a good graphic app for graphic designers?
[05:03] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: hmm ... then it means it has some other name
[05:03] <rasputnik> amichai: inkscape, gimp ?
[05:03] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: are you sure you have it installed?
[05:03] <nalioth> Panzerboy: true
[05:03] <tim> is gcj going to be included w/ breezy?
[05:03] <amichai> rasputnik: thanx
[05:03] <moparfan90> what java or limewire
[05:03] <nalioth> amichai: inkscape, gimp,
[05:04] <nalioth> moparfan90: where did you install limewire?
[05:04] <moparfan90> i dont know ....http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:04] <apokryphos> *cough*
[05:04] <kbrooks> moparfan90,
[05:04] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[05:04] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:05] <itz> http://pastebin.com/311913   hde5 says unmounted but when fsck.ext3 it says its mounted... what to do? PLEASE
[05:05] <moparfan90> ook
[05:05] <nalioth> moparfan90: let me go read the 'guide, hang on a min
[05:06] <moparfan90> ok
[05:06] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: did you do all that it says there?
[05:06] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: in the guide?
[05:06] <moparfan90> yeah
[05:06] <kbrooks> wtf?
[05:06] <Determinist> hey guys, i am about to install ubuntu on my desktop machine , anything i should know about before attempting a dual boot with winxp? XP is already installed on that machine ... just wanting to know if i'd be able to still boot into windows after install
[05:06] <djp> anyone know why i get an unexpected end of stream error message when i play ogg vorbis streams under rhythmbox in hoary?
[05:06] <moparfan90> not adding resop....
[05:06] <nalioth> Determinist: you won't have a problem
[05:06] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: then
[05:06] <kbrooks> nalioth, it doesntn use the official limewire
[05:06] <Determinist> nalioth, would grub include a winxp entry?
[05:06] <sobersabre> Determinist, beware not to get used too much to ubuntu..
[05:06] <sobersabre> Determinist, yep
[05:06] <Determinist> sobersabre, already using ubuntu on my laptop , it is great :D
[05:07] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: type in the terminal runLime.sh
[05:07] <sobersabre> Determinist, me too.
[05:07] <chombee> Hey all - I just switched from Ubuntu to Fedora, Fedora is prettier and maybe faster but doesn't work as well and there are far less official packages. I'm gonna switch back. But I just can't get over Fedora's nice fonts! Is there a way to beautify the Ubuntu fonts?
[05:07] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: if the output is more than a line, don't paste it here
[05:07] <nalioth> Determinist: grub will indeed 'see' windows and add an entry
[05:07] <moparfan90> Starting LimeWire...
[05:07] <moparfan90> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[05:07] <moparfan90> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com [java = gij]
[05:07] <moparfan90> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[05:07] <moparfan90> ls: /usr/java: No such file or directory
[05:07] <moparfan90> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[05:07] <sobersabre> chombee, copy the fonts.
[05:07] <moparfan90> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[05:07] <El_Che> chombee: what the prob with the fonts?
[05:07] <moparfan90> sorry for big paste
[05:07] <Determinist> ok , so just put the install CD in the drive and voila? i'm installing it into a slave 40gig drive , already having another drive as the master split into two partitions
[05:07] <El_Che> chombee: no difference here with gnome on solaris, or unbuntu at home. Fonts are nice
[05:07] <Panzerboy> !flood
[05:07] <ubotu> from memory, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[05:08] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: see !flood
[05:08] <nalioth> chombee: if you get the fedora font source rpm, you can decant the fonts into ubuntu
[05:08] <Panzerboy> ok then
[05:08] <El_Che> chombee: maybe you need to install de ms fonts
[05:08] <El_Che> chombee: it's in universe
[05:08] <Panzerboy> it seems like it wants a sun jre
[05:08] <moparfan90> sorry
[05:08] <chombee> El_Che - I think maybe so
[05:08] <El_Che> chombee: alien can convert rpm's in nice deb's
[05:08] <nalioth> Determinist: the 40g is empty right now?
[05:08] <action09> Ubuntu is instable for me if i had multiverse, backports or 'non-supported' marillat, so i decided to put only universe and official Hoary in sources.list , but if i remove mplayer,vlc-gtk, audio plug-ins and all.. and do an update and upgrade with 'clean sources' will my system librairies be replaced with more 'stable' binaries/lib ? please
[05:09] <action09> any clue please ? :) sorry for the flood
[05:09] <Determinist> nalioth, full , trying to free up some space in it. would i need the entire 40 gig drive or can i split it into 2 partitions?
[05:09] <rasputnik> chombee: you probably just need to install some more fonts - rpm -qa|grep -i font ' should list all fedoras font rpms
[05:09] <chombee> El_Che - well, it's not that I want exactly the Fedora fonts, I just want the font-smoothing it has
[05:09] <moparfan90> anyone know what i should do?
[05:09] <nalioth> Determinist: you only need about 5gb (give or take)
[05:09] <Determinist> nalioth, hmmm , ok , thanks
[05:09] <nalioth> moparfan90: use gtk-gnutella?
[05:10] <chombee> moparfan90 - did you install the Java package? It's called something like sunj2re
[05:10] <djp> anyone interested, the answer to my problem can be found here http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156941
[05:10] <moparfan90> ok. but i want to get limewire to work firs
[05:10] <nalioth> Determinist: keep in mind, that linux can read/write to other filesystems (except for NTFS, which is read-only)
[05:10] <charles> does anyone have a problem when they fullscreen zsnes?
[05:10] <djp> just gonna have to wait for a hoary update i gather... ;)
[05:10] <charles> or know about a problem
[05:10] <Panzerboy> !java
[05:10] <rasputnik> moparfan90: you need a jre to run limewire!
[05:10] <ubotu> I heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:10] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: see !java
[05:11] <alpha> moparfan90: if you compile your own kernel you can add ntfs write
[05:11] <djp> charles: what problem do you have? i used to run zsnes
[05:11] <charles> djp, it was working perfectly earlier
[05:11] <Panzerboy> alpha: what's that have to do with his limewire problem?
[05:11] <charles> djp, but now it starts in a window
[05:11] <Determinist> nalioth, alright , cept one problem ... the existing partitions on the system are NTFS
[05:11] <charles> djp, and when i fullscreen it it says press any key but its locked up
[05:11] <alpha> Panzerboy: wrong nice
[05:11] <alpha> nick even
[05:11] <charles> jpatrick, it used to crash when i exited fullscreen but i didnt really care, now its starting in a screen and when i fullscreen it locks
[05:12] <Panzerboy> alpha: :)
[05:12] <djp> charles: ahh, i remember that problem. i got around it by using the size button in the top right hand corner
[05:12] <chombee> moparfan90 - you need the package sun-j2re1.5
[05:12] <charles> djp, oh jesus hell
[05:12] <charles> djp, that workes perfectly
[05:12] <charles> djp, i guess alt+enter = sad zsnes
[05:12] <alpha> anyone have any idea when the .us servers will be unborked
[05:12] <charles> djp, thanks
[05:13] <djp> charles: i know i had the same issue as you, but by using that workaround everything was fine
[05:13] <nalioth> Determinist: then give yourself about 10gb for linux
[05:13] <charles> djp, yeah i dont want to use snes9x boo
[05:13] <charles> djp, zsnes is nice
[05:13] <djp> charles: don't suppose you know if there is a deb file of gens kicking about anywhere do you? ;)
[05:13] <Panzerboy> alpha: the devs prolly
[05:13] <Determinist> nalioth, thanks, will do mate
[05:13] <charles> djp, the games look better and the input for controllers is way easier
[05:13] <charles> djp, no idea :\
[05:13] <moparfan90> "sun-j2re1.5" is not showing up in search
[05:13] <moparfan90> help me
[05:13] <charles> djp, i have the win version but thats no help
[05:14] <kahuna_> Hi
[05:14] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: because it's in the backports i guess
[05:14] <charles> moparfan90, backports
[05:14] <Panzerboy> !backports
[05:14] <moparfan90> how do i install that then?
[05:14] <ubotu> hmm... backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:14] <Panzerboy> see that
[05:14] <kahuna_> Is there a tabbed terminal like gnome-terminal but lightwieght?
[05:15] <kahuna_> I'm running wmaker because I don't have the resources for gnome
[05:15] <Panzerboy> kahuna_: iirc, eterm
[05:15] <DJester> Anyone here an ACPI expert that I can query?
[05:15] <moparfan90> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/.... is not a site
[05:15] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: yes it is, maybe it has some problems atm
[05:16] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: in short, you have to add this line to the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <moparfan90> what line
[05:16] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:16] <moparfan90> o
[05:16] <Kreuzfeldt> Hi all
[05:16] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: so open a terminal
[05:17] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: copy paste that line
[05:17] <Kreuzfeldt> i need help with my resolution :/ 640*480 @ 60Hz only :(
[05:17] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: then, from the terminal, do sudo apt-get update
[05:17] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: then you should be able to install the jre
[05:18] <moparfan90> ok
[05:18] <zAo^> lo all
[05:18] <moparfan90> where do i put that line?
[05:18] <kbrooks> nalioth_wrkn?
[05:18] <Panzerboy> umm
[05:18] <Panzerboy> moparfan90: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:18] <Panzerboy> there
[05:18] <kbrooks> Panzerboy, HOLD IT
[05:18] <moparfan90> i know ... where in that file?
[05:18] <zAo^> can some1 help me with upgrading to breezy?
[05:18] <zAo^> I got: dpkg: xserver-xorg: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:
[05:18] <Panzerboy> kbrooks: ?
[05:18] <kbrooks> moparfan90, do not use backports daily
[05:18] <charles> anyone know what happened to the package mplayer-i386
[05:19] <charles> i know where mplayer is
[05:19] <charles> i just wanted that part
[05:19] <charles> wait nvm
[05:19] <Kreuzfeldt> i need help with my resolution :/ 640*480 @ 60Hz only :(
[05:19] <charles> lol
[05:19] <Kreuzfeldt> can somebody pm me please ?
[05:19] <charles> Kreuzfeldt, did u edit ur xorg.conf?
[05:19] <Kreuzfeldt> no
[05:19] <Kreuzfeldt> but i reconfigured xorg thingy
[05:19] <charles> Kreuzfeldt, add resolutions in there
[05:19] <Kreuzfeldt> didnt help
[05:20] <Kreuzfeldt> wait
[05:20] <Kreuzfeldt> where to add the resolutions , and how ?
[05:20] <charles> is there a way to configure mediaplayer connectivity in firefox to make your videos play imbedded????
[05:21] <Kamzi> hi ppl
[05:21] <Kreuzfeldt> hi
[05:21] <porksword> hey guys i need a hand gettin java installed any1 give me a hand please??
[05:21] <moparfan90> sun-j2re1.5 doesnt show up in sypatica
[05:21] <Kamzi> any1 feel like helping install unbuntu
[05:21] <Kreuzfeldt> porksword, www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:21] <Kreuzfeldt> there is a tut on that site
[05:21] <charles> moparfan90, add backports then update
[05:21] <rasputnik> Kamzi: what problems?
[05:22] <moparfan90> i did
[05:22] <charles> moparfan90, apt-get update
[05:22] <Panzerboy> Kreuzfeldt: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:22] <Kreuzfeldt> i tried
[05:22] <porksword> im using the amd64 guide and it doesnt seem 2 work unless im doin it wrong
[05:22] <Kreuzfeldt> didnt work
[05:22] <Panzerboy> !ubuntuguide
[05:22] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:22] <Panzerboy> Kreuzfeldt: see that
[05:22] <Panzerboy> about the guide
[05:22] <Kamzi> whenever i install unbuntu my xp install goes awol
[05:22] <Panzerboy> Kreuzfeldt: what video card do you have?
[05:22] <apokryphos> charles: it just changed name
[05:22] <apokryphos> !find mplayer
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.
[05:22] <drayen> is there a dedicated 64bit channel?
[05:22] <charles> doessss anyone know where a guide is to have embedded video in firefox
[05:22] <Kreuzfeldt> Panzerboy, Radeon 8500
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> hey
[05:23] <rasputnik> Kamzi: shouldn't do unless you are deleting or resizing windows partitions
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> what is the point of the mplayer-k7 and mplayer-686 packages
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> which say "this is a placeholder" ?
[05:23] <Panzerboy> Kreuzfeldt: and are you using ati's drivers?
[05:23] <charles> k7 is for athlon
[05:23] <charles> i use k7 packages
[05:23] <charles> and kernels
[05:23] <rasputnik> charles: ubuntuguide (but we're not allowed to mention it)
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> I know what it SHOULD be fore
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> but its not
[05:23] <Kreuzfeldt> no but i tried b4 i reinstalled and they didnt work properly :/
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> it just links to other packages
[05:23] <Phreakazoid> lol
[05:23] <charles> rasputnik, ?????????/
[05:23] <apokryphos> charles: and if you check there you'll see there's more than k7
[05:23] <apokryphos> charles: i.e. mplayer-386
[05:23] <charles> rasputnik, do what
[05:24] <rasputnik>  www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:24] <charles> im so confused wth is going on
[05:24] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[05:24] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:24] <apokryphos> hehe
[05:24] <charles> i dont need the ubuntu guide
[05:24] <rasputnik> kbrooks: yes thanks but it tells you how to embed mplayer
[05:24] <apokryphos> charles: mplayer-386 exists
[05:24] <Phreakazoid> its funny on the ubuntu wiki
[05:24] <porksword> is https://wiki.ubuntu.com better or something??
[05:24] <Phreakazoid> in part of it
[05:24] <Phreakazoid> they say "go to ubuntu guide it's good"
[05:24] <rasputnik>  www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:24] <kbrooks> rasputnik, read
[05:24] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[05:24] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:25] <charles> apokryphos, ohhhh i was typing it wrong
[05:25] <Phreakazoid> and then on that page it says "ubuntu guide is the worst load of crap ever made"
[05:25] <Phreakazoid> the wiki contradicts itself
[05:25] <rasputnik> kbrooks: are you a bot?
[05:25] <apokryphos> kbrooks: I'm sure they get the idea ;-)
[05:25] <Panzerboy> lol
[05:25] <kbrooks> No.
[05:25] <kbrooks> I am not a bot.
[05:25] <apokryphos> prove it
[05:25] <El_Che> kbrooks: !VERSION
[05:25] <apokryphos> haha
[05:25] <charles> but umm do i have to have mplayer to do it? i like vlc better
[05:25] <rasputnik> kbrooks: then stop blindly mailing about ubuntuguide! i know its' not recommended but it answers the guys question
[05:25] <charles> i have all the codecs i need to watch everything
[05:25] <apokryphos> charles: it *is* mplayer
[05:25] <kbrooks> I'm a member of the unp
[05:26] <Determinist> ooook , here we go , ubuntu installing on me desktop puter
[05:26] <Panzerboy> kbrooks: what is unp ?
[05:26] <charles> apokryphos, yeah i know
[05:26] <alpha> i still can'tseem to get streaming windowsmedia audio anyone have any ideas? i have mplayer istalled
[05:26] <kbrooks> ubuntu new users project
[05:26] <porksword> thanx 4 the help
[05:26] <Panzerboy> heh
[05:26] <Phreakazoid> so whats the deal with the mplayer-k7 package then
[05:26] <CarinArr> hey, how can i make a little script run automagically when ubuntu starts up?
[05:26] <Panzerboy> didn't know about that one
[05:26] <Phreakazoid> its just this.... "Dummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-k6"
[05:26] <crimsun> rasputnik: please don't blindly recommend ubuntuguide. There are questionable recommendations in it. Always attach a caveat that it is an unofficial guide.
[05:27] <Phreakazoid> why has k7 been discontinued?
[05:27] <apokryphos> Phreakazoid: for Athlons
[05:27] <apokryphos> Phreakazoid: it hasn't
[05:27] <Panzerboy> kbrooks: does it have a site or smth ?
[05:27] <Phreakazoid> apokryphos: mplayer-k7 -> Dummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-k6
[05:27] <Phreakazoid> apokryphos: all it does is depend on mplayer-k6
[05:27] <rasputnik> kbrooks, crimsun: scroll back, I mentioned it with caveats
[05:27] <drayen> anyone else getting "MD5Sum mismatch" from the 64bit apt sources?
[05:27] <apokryphos> Phreakazoid: whoops, yeah sorry. k6 is the pack
[05:27] <Phreakazoid> apokryphos: its not a package itself
[05:27] <CarinArr> drayen, you using us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:27] <charles> where do i get mplayer fonts
[05:27] <drayen> CarinArr, yes!
[05:28] <Determinist> a buddy gave me a shipit CD , so lovely :D
[05:28] <crimsun> rasputnik: I only just joined.
[05:28] <apokryphos> !find mplayer-fonts
[05:28] <ubotu> mplayer-fonts: (Fonts for mplayer), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 3.5-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1305 kB, Installed size: 7172 kB
[05:28] <CarinArr> drayen, try using another archive, i had problems with us. too, none with just archive.ubuntu.com
[05:28] <charles> apokryphos, thnx
[05:28] <Phreakazoid> apokryphos: what happened to the k7 version then? did it not provide a significant performance increase?
[05:28] <apokryphos> Phreakazoid: never exsted
[05:28] <rasputnik> how come the wiki has a bad SSL cert too? Can't we fix that?
[05:28] <CarinArr> another mirror even
[05:28] <drayen> CarinArr, ahhh okay - will give that a try now :) cheers
[05:28] <Phreakazoid> ic
[05:28] <apokryphos> Phreakazoid: as a package in the repos, that is
[05:28] <crimsun> Phreakazoid: the -k7 version is only a virtual package for -k6
[05:28] <moparfan90> ok i think limewire works now... i think
[05:29] <Phreakazoid> crimsun: yeah thats what I just said three times, I'm asking why its just that instead of an actual k7 compile
[05:29] <cavediver> Hi guys. I have problem installing icon-themes. I download and put the archive in .icons and choose it in theme-manager but the icons on my desktop goes all white..
[05:30] <cavediver> anyone have any idea why ?
[05:30] <crimsun> Phreakazoid: simplicity. The build script is inherited (and adapted) from debian-marillat
[05:30] <Kreuzfeldt> anyone got time for my resolution problem ? please pm
[05:30] <Phreakazoid> crimsun: I see
[05:31] <rasputnik> crimsun: is there a guide anywhere for contributing to package management?
[05:31] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: what is it?
[05:31] <Kreuzfeldt> its just 640*480
[05:31] <apokryphos> rasputnik: yes. Check the motu wiki page
[05:31] <crimsun> rasputnik: wiki/MOTU
[05:31] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <rasputnik> apokryphos, crimsun : cheers
[05:31] <Kreuzfeldt> i did that :/
[05:31] <Kreuzfeldt> didnt work
[05:31] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: as in...? It didn't change?
[05:32] <Kreuzfeldt> no didnt change
[05:32] <Kreuzfeldt> at first i had troubles comming back in gnome
[05:32] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: if you put in the option for it, and Ubuntu has enough power to do it with your vid card, then you should have the option for it
[05:32] <Determinist> ping me please?
[05:32] <drayen> CarinArr, seems to be doing the trick ! thanks !!!
[05:32] <apokryphos> Determinist: ping
[05:32] <Determinist> netlag :/
[05:32] <Kreuzfeldt> mh what ? :/
[05:32] <apokryphos> Determinist: don't worry; it's necessarily determined.
[05:33] <Determinist> :P
[05:33] <porksword> is there a newer sun-j2re1.5??
[05:33] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: did you select the option to have a higher resolution in the X configuration?
[05:34] <Kreuzfeldt> yea
[05:34] <Kreuzfeldt> the resolutions are even shown @ xorg.conf
[05:34] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: alright, did you restart X?
[05:34] <apokryphos> ok, cool
[05:34] <Kreuzfeldt> yea
[05:34] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: and now you don't have the option still to go a resolution higher?
[05:34] <Kreuzfeldt> right :(
[05:35] <apokryphos> eek. Not sure then...
[05:35] <Kreuzfeldt> mh
[05:35] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: you using an nvidia/ati card?
[05:35] <Determinist> i wish i didnt have a reason to keep winxp installed , i hate that OS :/
[05:35] <Kreuzfeldt> ati
[05:35] <Kreuzfeldt> radeon 8500
[05:35] <porksword> i have tried apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 like the guide said but only got E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5 any1 got any suggestions??
[05:36] <Determinist> just one reason , one game ... one!
[05:36] <splitta> whats the typical delivery time for the cds ?
[05:36] <moparfan90> i have been trying to open limewire and it is in the load screen saying "loading HTML engine..."   for 10 min
[05:36] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: did you install the drivers for it?
[05:36] <moparfan90> what sould i do?
[05:36] <Determinist> splitta, about 1.5-2 months
[05:36] <deFrysk> porksword, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:36] <Kreuzfeldt> i did b4 the reinstall and it didnt work either
[05:36] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: if you did install the drivers, then you'd have to select it accordingly in the dpkg-reconfigure
[05:36] <charles> hey, i found a tutorial for embedding video in mozilla anyone want it?
[05:37] <Kreuzfeldt> mh
[05:37] <Kreuzfeldt> Oo
[05:37] <Determinist> charles, embedding video in mozilla ... how do you mean?
[05:37] <charles> its on ubuntu forum but meh
[05:37] <Kreuzfeldt> i will try it again
[05:37] <charles> Determinist, like playing IN your browser
[05:37] <splitta> thanx...i'd order hoary but breezy will be current by the time they arrive :o)
[05:37] <charles> Determinist, not opening in a media player
[05:37] <Determinist> charles, ohh , if it's on the forums i'll find it then
[05:37] <charles> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&highlight=Firefox
[05:37] <charles> its with totem-xine tho
[05:38] <Kreuzfeldt> apokryphos, i need those right ? -> ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Drivers for XFree86 / X.Org Version 8.14.13
[05:38] <splitta> Determinist: any way of speeding it up ?
[05:38] <moparfan90> i have been trying to open limewire and it is in the load screen saying loading HTML engine..."   for 10 min
[05:38] <moparfan90> help me
[05:38] <porksword> deFrysk: cool thanx 4 that
[05:39] <LuckyStrike> hi
[05:39] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: I have nvidia, so haven't done ATI. Hold on one sec..
[05:39] <Kreuzfeldt> ok thx
[05:40] <splitta> when is the next snapshot of breezy due ?
[05:40] <kHurtiZ> Hoary 5.04 is current stable release, right?
[05:40] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: instructions here actually should do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[05:40] <apokryphos> kHurtiZ: yes
[05:40] <EpHiLL> does any one know a good linux tutorial for radiant ?
[05:40] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: oh wait, possibly better...
[05:40] <apokryphos> !ati
[05:40] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <MrBiscuit> Where can you download the synapic packages manually (like outside of linux)?
[05:41] <apokryphos> MrBiscuit: http://archive.ubuntu.com
[05:41] <MrBiscuit> Thx
[05:41] <Kreuzfeldt> i will look on those 2 pages thx
[05:41] <moparfan90> i have been trying to open limewire and it is in the load screen saying loading HTML engine..."   for 10 min
[05:42] <apokryphos> moparfan90: look for another window it may have opened up which asks you to configure it..
[05:42] <moparfan90> i didnt
[05:42] <apokryphos> moparfan90: you didn't what? First time you open LimeWire you have to do some configurations, just about when it says that...
[05:42] <moparfan90> nevermind.. it did
[05:42] <moparfan90> thanks
[05:43] <MrBiscuit> apokryphos: Like where do i go on these pages
[05:43] <deFrysk> moparfan90, should be a config window somewhere
[05:43] <omniscient> limewire for linux?
[05:43] <apokryphos> MrBiscuit: i.e. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/
[05:43] <deFrysk> omniscient,  yup
[05:43] <apokryphos> omniscient: it's a Java app -- yes.
[05:43] <MrBiscuit> I went there
[05:44] <omniscient> ah java
[05:44] <deFrysk> omniscient, also azureus
[05:44] <MrBiscuit> But where do i find the /deb files
[05:45] <apokryphos> MrBiscuit: sorry; here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[05:45] <MrBiscuit> Thanks, now i see
[05:45] <MrBiscuit> Anyone have a Conexant dialup modem?
[05:47] <Kreuzfeldt> gonna try and reboot
[05:47] <Kreuzfeldt> brb
[05:48] <daan> haaai
[05:50] <benjaminwr> jeez...
[05:50] <benjaminwr> loads of people here
[05:50] <benjaminwr> im looking for some help with my intallation
[05:50] <daan> hussssh
[05:50] <benjaminwr> anyone availlable?
[05:50] <deFrysk> benjaminwr, be specific if you want help
[05:50] <benjaminwr> ok
[05:51] <benjaminwr> after installation my computer reboots but doesn't load up grub
[05:51] <benjaminwr> i get system disk boot faliure
[05:51] <benjaminwr> as if grub hadn't been installed
[05:51] <benjaminwr> but the installation says it was installed
[05:52] <benjaminwr> i've tries on various disks
[05:52] <benjaminwr> and same problem
[05:52] <benjaminwr> my rig athlon 64 3000+ asus a8n-sli deluxe 2g ram and for linux i'm using a barracuda 80gb hdd
[05:54] <daan> i don't n
[05:54] <daan> know why im here...
[05:55] <Kreuzfeldt> didnt work :/
[05:56] <Kreuzfeldt> needed to reconfigure this xthing again b4 comming back to gnome
[05:56] <Kreuzfeldt> apokryphos ?
[05:57] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: Hey. So you installed the drivers?
[05:57] <MrBiscuit> Umm.. everytime i try to access /proc using nautilus, it never opens the folder and says it doesnt have any free space in it
[05:57] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: did you configure X accordingly?
[05:57] <Kreuzfeldt> i tried the second link
[05:57] <Kreuzfeldt> didnt work
[05:57] <deFrysk> benjaminwr, no privating without asking please
[05:57] <benjaminwr> soyy
[05:57] <benjaminwr> sorry
[05:58] <benjaminwr> i need help gettin it to load
[05:58] <benjaminwr> on my laptop it's fine
[05:58] <apokryphos> Kreuzfeldt: so you put in the fglrx into xorg.conf etc.?
[05:58] <Kyral> Okay, how does one put together a multipart rar?
[05:58] <Kreuzfeldt> yea
[05:58] <Kreuzfeldt> right
[05:58] <Kreuzfeldt> :/
[05:58] <apokryphos> Gah
[05:59] <benjaminwr> is there anyone here that can help me please...
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Isn't there an alternative to GRUB?
[06:00] <apokryphos> Lilo
[06:00] <Proteque> MrBiscuit: lilo
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Then umm whats ur face why don't you try that
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> Btw does anyone know how to edit Dialup modem strings in ubuntu?
[06:03] <Kyral> mmm, one reason more why I love the command line
[06:03] <Kyral> almost every command has the -v option. So I can see whats going on :D
[06:04] <MrBiscuit> Ummm anyone know how to install Wine like rite
[06:04] <Chillout> hi does anyone know of a good online banking program for ubuntu?
[06:04] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install wine?
[06:04] <Geist|Patrick> hi
[06:04] <Geist|Patrick> i need help installing captive
[06:04] <MrBiscuit> No i mean like when you d/l it from the site
[06:04] <Geist|Patrick> :/
[06:05] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, why would you do it that way?
[06:05] <MrBiscuit> Everytme it gets close to finishing, it says it can't find a test file or somthing then aborts
[06:05] <Geist|Patrick> someone here who has a working ubunutu with it?
[06:05] <benjaminwr> does anyone know why grub might not install properly or not at all
[06:05] <Kyral> unless its Cedega?
[06:05] <kbrooks> Geist|Patrick, captive is teh evil
[06:05] <Geist|Patrick> well... i need data which is on ntfs
[06:05] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, Captive NTFS == Instant NTFS screw up
[06:05] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, you can read NTFS without it
[06:06] <Geist|Patrick> how?
[06:06] <Geist|Patrick> ubuntu doesnt seem to support it
[06:06] <Kyral> should be autodetected
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> Kyral: I have connectiontroubles in linux since i have to use Linuxants trial driver (Like im paying) and i have to d/l it in Windows
[06:06] <Geist|Patrick> unless i have read
[06:06] <Geist|Patrick> well... my ubuntu CANT read my ntfs partitions
[06:06] <Geist|Patrick> :/
[06:06] <Kyral> Linuxants?
[06:06] <Geist|Patrick> ???
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> Linuxant's*
[06:06] <apokryphos> Geist|Patrick: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> www.linuxant.com
[06:06] <Spaic> is is safe to install packages from debian mirrors? I couldn't find libstdc++2.10
[06:06] <kahuna_> Hi. Does anyone know how I can enable UTF-8 in Eterm?
[06:07] <Chrisxx> Geist|Patrick: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~foulplay/winmac_fstab  run that script (make it an executable and run it with sudo)
[06:07] <CarlFK> anyone recomend a IRC past bot?  something that will notify a channel of the URL
[06:07] <charles> ok so i installed the mozembed thing but what player should i use in mediaplayerconnectivity
[06:07] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, I assume this is a Wireless Card?
[06:07] <apokryphos> CarlFK: past bot? Of what URL?
[06:07] <itz> plzzz what can i do to force umount to a disc?
[06:08] <MrBiscuit> Unfortinatly its a dialup modem :-(
[06:08] <daan> byyyyaaaaa
[06:08] <MrBiscuit> I've heard of that, but it says its only for yea Wireless cards
[06:08] <CarlFK> apokryphos - a web site where you can pate a bunch of text so that other IRC users can see it
[06:09] <EpHiLL> I'm looking for a good tutorial for radiant, compile maps in linux any one?
[06:09] <apokryphos> CarlFK: www.pastebin.com
[06:09] <CarlFK> apokryphos - where do you specify what server/channel to notify?
[06:09] <apokryphos> CarlFK: or the one in /topic
[06:10] <apokryphos> CarlFK: oh, it won't notify the channel.. you'll have to paste the link in yourself
[06:10] <Geist|Patrick> why am i unable to mount partions without console?
[06:10] <paradizelost> hey all
[06:10] <Geist|Patrick> its in that drop down
[06:10] <Geist|Patrick> why is the gui that useless?
[06:10] <CarlFK> apokryphos - then it dosen't meet my requirements ;)
[06:10] <paradizelost> can anyone tell me how to have a static set DNS address while having a DHCP ip address???
[06:10] <Chillout> hi does anyone know of a good online banking program for ubuntu?
[06:10] <apokryphos> CarlFK: a web site where you can pate a bunch of text so that other IRC users can see it  -- it meets that one
[06:10] <apokryphos> ...but nevermind.
[06:11] <adwait> hey ppl
[06:11] <MrBiscuit> Kyral, Do you think it will work
[06:11] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, the terminal isn't that bad... :D
[06:11] <Kyral> NDiswrapper? Maybe
[06:11] <Kyral> Give it a shot, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain
[06:11] <MrBiscuit> Whats the URL again?
[06:11] <Geist|Patrick> i even cant access most of the configs from the gui
[06:12] <Kyral> it might be preinstalled from the disk
[06:12] <Kyral> do a man ndiswrapper on the console
[06:12] <paradizelost> can anyone tell me how to have a static set DNS address while having a DHCP ip address???
[06:12] <Geist|Patrick> cant i create a real root account?
[06:12] <itz> Hey can anybody help me with some unmounting issues plzzzz?
[06:12] <adwait> paradizelost: i guess they are pretty much unrelated things......nevertheless, u can set ur DNS ip in the /etc/resulv.conf file with a line like nameserver <ipaddress>
[06:12] <MrBiscuit> Alrite
[06:12] <Geist|Patrick> without that console stuff?
[06:12] <MrBiscuit> Thx
[06:12] <CarlFK> apokryphos - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pastebot - that one does, but is giving me heartburn trying to get all the needed perl modules
[06:12] <paradizelost> but whhen i get the dhcp address, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
[06:12] <adwait> Geist|Patrick: if u sudo passwd, i guess tht will create a root account
[06:12] <Geist|Patrick> in console
[06:13] <Geist|Patrick> but not in the gui?
[06:13] <paradizelost> i.e. with dhclient or with gnome's network management program
[06:13] <adwait> Geist|Patrick: then u gotta enable x login for root, from System>Administration>Login Setup
[06:13] <Geist|Patrick> i use kde
[06:13] <adwait> Geist|Patrick: no idea tn
[06:13] <kungkang> Geist|Patrick: why would you want a root account on a desktop machine? its a broken concept.
[06:14] <Geist|Patrick> well... it bugs me that i only can access most of items via console
[06:14] <Geist|Patrick> ALTHOUGH there are gui menus for it!
[06:14] <adwait> paradizelost: hmm......i guess i can only suggest the dumb way: make resolv.bak and then after connecting to the net, rename it resolv.conf
[06:14] <paradizelost> is there any way then to make it so that nothing can change the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[06:14] <paradizelost> ?
[06:14] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, like what?
[06:14] <paradizelost> cuz i've done a chmod 000 /etc/resolv.conf and it still overwrote it.
[06:14] <CarlFK> paradizelost - "nothing" is a bit extream
[06:14] <adwait> or u could change permissions of tht file.......but i dunno how tht will work......
[06:15] <kungkang> Geist|Patrick: really?, i can use all gui configuration stuff from my gnome menu
[06:15] <Kyral> kungkang, he is using KDE
[06:15] <paradizelost> i want to force <IP_ADDRESS> to be the DNS server.
[06:15] <CarlFK> paradizelost - anyting running as root will have it's way with it ;)
[06:15] <paradizelost> can i take permissions away from root?
[06:15] <Geist|Patrick> gnome is installed too on this machine
[06:15] <kungkang> Kyral: so there is no equivalent to gnome-sudo in KDE?
[06:15] <paradizelost> i know it can be done over  NFS
[06:15] <Geist|Patrick> but there is no difference
[06:15] <itz> Geist|Patrick, gksudo gedit and make ur main user owner for some folders and no problemo..
[06:15] <Kyral> I don't know, I run GNOME :D
[06:15] <Geist|Patrick> well...
[06:16] <adwait> paradizelost: i gues chmod -w /etc/resolv.conf should work
[06:16] <adwait> as root
[06:16] <Geist|Patrick> i want to able to mount partiotions
[06:16] <adwait> so make that sudo chmod -w /etc/resolv.conf
[06:16] <Kyral> mount :D
[06:16] <CarlFK> paradizelost - if you could, you would just break your box good
[06:16] <paradizelost> isn't that the same as a chmod 000 /etc/resolv.conf
[06:16] <benjaminwr> can anyone help me with grub not loading, i get system disk boot faliure
[06:16] <jewel> paradizelost, No, you still need read access to that file
[06:16] <adwait> but i really dont know how this might affect ur system
[06:16] <CarlFK> paradizelost - there are ways of telling dhclient what to ignore
[06:16] <jewel> It's the same as chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf
[06:18] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, sometimes the Console is the best way
[06:18] <itz> Geist|Patrick, well i know ur feeling but its really recomended to not login a root....
[06:18] <itz> ;)
[06:18] <benjaminwr> can anyone help me with grub not loading, i get system disk boot faliure
[06:19] <Geist|Patrick> i took me one hour to copy and post translation files for opera in a usr folder
[06:19] <Geist|Patrick> only because i were unable to modify the rights
[06:19] <Geist|Patrick> why?
[06:19] <Geist|Patrick> that suxx
[06:20] <CarlFK> paradizelost - man dhclient.conf If for some option the client should always  use  a  locally-configured        value  or  values rather than whatever is supplied by the server, these        values can be defined in the supersede statement.
[06:20] <Kyral> its called keeping you from royally boning your system by accident
[06:20] <Proteque> sudo su -
[06:20] <MrBiscuit> Hey umm Kyral i installed the .deb pack now what do i do
[06:20] <jewel> benjaminwr, I assume you used to be able to boot from the drive before you installed grub?
[06:20] <Kyral> believe me, I've done it :P
[06:20] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, I believe you need the drivers for the modem
[06:21] <MrBiscuit> Hmm.. ok
[06:21] <MrBiscuit> Then what do i do with them
[06:21] <DAWKIRST> Hi. How do I install third-party software like cedega?
[06:21] <Kyral> after that, the man pages for NDiswrapper should help :D
[06:21] <MrBiscuit> Like where do i put them
[06:21] <benjaminwr> well i have another 2 discs that i used before
[06:21] <MrBiscuit> Ok
[06:21] <Kyral> DAWKIRST, is it a .deb?
[06:21] <benjaminwr> this disk is exclusively for linux
[06:21] <itz> Geist|Patrick, Hey tell me about it... Its quite hard making stuff in linux thats for sure....
[06:21] <benjaminwr> but windows works on that disk
[06:22] <jewel> benjaminwr: When you get that error it normally means that you've got your BIOS settings wrong
[06:22] <benjaminwr> the hd i use is set in the bios as the primary boot disk
[06:22] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone have Juno for Linux, it's in java and i installed java but it still won't open
[06:23] <benjaminwr> of the thre I have
[06:23] <benjaminwr> I put it in the first place
[06:23] <jewel> benjaminwr: If grub were the problem then usually  you see an error mentioning grub specifically
[06:23] <benjaminwr> and the boot order is floppy cdrom and HD
[06:23] <DJester> Can Someone answer a question for me.  My acpi works fine, but the /proc/acpi/fan directory is empty.  What does that mean? Sometimes my fan shuts off for no reason and the only way to get it running again is to reboot my laptop.  Any Ideas?
[06:23] <Geist|Patrick> well
[06:23] <jewel> benjaminwr: Was it set as the boot disk when you installed?
[06:23] <benjaminwr> yes
[06:23] <itz> Anybody that can help me unmount hde5? its says unmounted... but when using sudo fsck.ext3 -c /dev/hde5
[06:23] <itz> it says mounted very riscy to countinue.
[06:23] <Geist|Patrick> how can i mount via the gui?
[06:23] <Geist|Patrick> i still dont get it
[06:23] <jewel> DJester: Not all acpi implementations can control the fan
[06:23] <benjaminwr> boot disk all the way
[06:23] <Geist|Patrick> and i am a linux noob
[06:23] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, you need an entry in the /etc/fstab
[06:23] <DAWKIRST> Kyral, yes.
[06:24] <Geist|Patrick> well...would u explain that plz
[06:24] <Kyral> Geist|Patrick, PM
[06:24] <benjaminwr> I know it's not a grub configuration problem, its jut a grub not happening problem
[06:24] <benjaminwr> :p
[06:24] <jewel> DJester: On my laptop it shuts down by itself too... the only way to get it to spin back up is to play a game or compile something... :)
[06:24] <Kyral> DAWKIRST, then do a sudo dpkg -i <package>
[06:24] <DJester> Jewel: Do you know of anyother ways that the fan is controlled that I can check out?
[06:24] <DAWKIRST> Kyrla, ty.
[06:25] <itz> Anybody that can help me unmount hde5? its says unmounted... but when using sudo fsck.ext3 -c /dev/hde5 its says mounted continue at own risk.... Please cant anybody HELP ME? :(
[06:25] <jewel> DJester: Not that I know of.  Normally it is just temperature controlled.  It's probably laptop version dependent
[06:25] <Kyral> itz, what is ON that partition?
[06:25] <benjaminwr> jewel do u mind if I private
[06:25] <jewel> benjaminwr: Nope
[06:25] <itz> Kyral, /home
[06:26] <Kyral> itz, you cannot umount /home while the system is running :P
[06:26] <Kyral> reboot and get into the GRUB Menu
[06:26] <kutucape> itz, init 1
[06:26] <kutucape> then umount /home
[06:26] <itz> Kyral,  im missing files and when editing som text filing stuff disapears... how can i check the disc for errors?
[06:26] <DJester> Jewel: Thanks for your help.  I don't think it's temp controlled, becuase after it shuts off the whole laptop gets really hot.  You'd think that it would spin back up after a bit.
[06:27] <DAWKIRST> Kyral, hmmm, looks like the package I have is not compatible with my 64-bit.
[06:27] <itz> kutucape, just type sudo init 1 ?
[06:27] <kutucape> itz, yes
[06:27] <Kyral> itz, what kutucape said
[06:27] <itz> ok gr8 thx
[06:27] <jewel> DJester: You can check the temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal or something like that... laptops are OK to get pretty hot.  Try searching around for acpi and your laptop model
[06:27] <itz> kLove u ;=)
[06:27] <itz> bbl wish me luck :d
[06:28] <kutucape> ok ;)
[06:28] <Kyral> DAWKIRST, are you using the pay version of Cedega?
[06:28] <DAWKIRST> Kyral, no.
[06:29] <MrBiscuit> Kyral, could helpp me install another driver
[06:29] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, what one?
[06:30] <DJester> jewel: /proc/acpi/thermal doesn't exsist.  It's a very propietary laptop
[06:30] <MrBiscuit> Its a linuxant driver (an older beta) one that i found but when i try to install it it says can't find proc/pci
[06:30] <paradizelost> quit
[06:31] <kutucape> DJester, chek if ACPI is enable
[06:31] <kutucape> enabled
[06:31] <grogoreo> hi
[06:31] <f_r[a] n_k> this is prolly like the millionth time its been asked but im tottaly new to linux, i need to install java
[06:31] <kutucape> by investigating dmesg |less
[06:31] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, did NDiswrapper work?
[06:31] <kutucape> CMIIW
[06:32] <f_r[a] n_k> can anyone like pm me and walk  me threw an installation?
[06:32] <MrBiscuit> Can't figure out how to use it
[06:32] <MrBiscuit> I went to there site and googled it
[06:32] <DJester> kutucape: When I type acpi at the prompt it returns my battery status.
[06:32] <kutucape> f_r[a] n_k, you have to download it from sun website
[06:32] <kutucape> then run the installer...
[06:32] <f_r[a] n_k> i nkow that
[06:32] <f_r[a] n_k> i dont know how to do that
[06:32] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, man ndiswrapper
[06:32] <kutucape> that's it
[06:32] <thisisalex02> hey everyone
[06:32] <Kyral> if the installer is a .sh
[06:32] <MrBiscuit> No manual entry for ndiswrapper
[06:33] <f_r[a] n_k> its not
[06:33] <thisisalex02> i have a usb drive plugged inyet im unable to change permissions using chmod
[06:33] <grogoreo> Is there an application that will let a windows user log onto another computer in the way XDMCP (cant remember if thats wright) is for Gnome. I know of VNC but I want a complete separete session with GUI. Like rdesktop to log onto windows machines (or just windows machines logging onto windows machines)
[06:33] <kutucape> f_r[a] n_k, first download, then chmod +x your_java_download
[06:33] <Kyral> did you install the deb?
[06:33] <MrBiscuit> ya
[06:33] <kutucape> then eexecute: ./your_java_download
[06:33] <kutucape> that's it
[06:33] <Kyral> hmmm
[06:33] <kutucape> hei thisisalex02
[06:33] <thisisalex02> sup kutucape
[06:33] <uber_newber> ne here ever heard of graal online?
[06:33] <GigaClon> yeah
[06:33] <uber_newber> *ne1
[06:34] <kutucape> f_r[a] n_k, no pm please
[06:34] <itz> Grrrr still same error... system says hde5 allready unmounted but when fsck.ext3 it says mounted WARNING :((((
[06:34] <kutucape> use paste bin instead
[06:34] <thisisalex02> im doin chmod 777 /media/FTP
[06:34] <jewel> itz: hde5 isn't listed when you type mount ?
[06:34] <thisisalex02> and nada
[06:34] <Kyral> itz
[06:35] <jewel> thisisalex02: You sometimes can't chmod a mounted drive
[06:35] <GigaClon> where can I change esd's behavior on start up
[06:35] <Kyral> reboot and select safe mode or recovery mode or soemthing like that from the menu
[06:35] <MrBiscuit> Kyral: sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb was right rite?
[06:35] <Kyral> then type umount /home
[06:35] <jewel> thisisalex02: You have to change with mount options... like uid, umask, stuff like that
[06:35] <kutucape> GigaClon, system call > Preferences > sound
[06:35] <Kyral> MrBiscuit, yah
[06:35] <f_r[a] n_k> alrte, well kutucap do i want the Core/Desktop ???
[06:35] <jewel> thisisalex02: It's all documented in 'man mount'
[06:35] <Kyral> wait
[06:35] <Kyral> whoa
[06:35] <Kyral> thats the sourcecode
[06:36] <itz> jewel, yes it is
[06:36] <MrBiscuit> What do you mean?
[06:36] <thisisalex02> so i have to remount
[06:36] <kutucape> f_r[a] n_k, core is enough
[06:36] <MrBiscuit> Oh
[06:36] <MrBiscuit> How do i compilei t
[06:36] <jewel> itz: I'm a little confused... yes, it is mounted, or yes, it isn't listed
[06:37] <Kyral> did it make a directory?
[06:37] <MrBiscuit> Yea. It did
[06:37] <MrBiscuit> And put i .ko file in it
[06:37] <itz> jewel, sorry its mounted cuz i can  always reach /home   but i cant unmount it... does that answer ur question?
[06:37] <Kyral> cd into it
[06:37] <qt2> "configure: error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present on your system. This prevents linking to OpenGL. Delete the file and restart configure." <- wont that break opengl...? <.<;
[06:37] <kutucape> itz, cat /etc/mtab and see if your mounted partition are there
[06:37] <Kyral> then ./configure && make && make install
[06:37] <jewel> itz: Does it give you an error when you try to unmount it?
[06:37] <Kyral> err
[06:38] <Kyral> put a sudo in front of that
[06:38] <MrBiscuit> Ok
[06:38] <itz> jewel, no its allready unmounted it says
[06:38] <kutucape> hmmm
[06:38] <f_r[a] n_k> kutucape do i downlad the j2se Jave Runtime Environment?
[06:38] <f_r[a] n_k> is that what i want?
[06:38] <jewel> itz: Or perhaps a better question... what is it you are trying to do?  Unmount /home to fsck it?
[06:39] <thisisalex02> ubuntuaddon.zip anyone know if that link is down
[06:39] <kutucape> f_r[a] n_k, yes
[06:39] <itz> jewel,  yes
[06:39] <uber_newber> i was trying to install the driver so i can instally my lyknsis wireless usb network adapter and i was in the terminal and i typed this in  "luke@ubuntuLuke:~/Desktop/at76c503-0.11.tar.gz_FILES/at76c503-0.11$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:39] <uber_newber> " and a bunch of stuff started loading. now its done loading what do i do?
[06:39] <jewel> itz: I think to do that properly you have to go to single user mode
[06:39] <itz> kutucape, its not listed in mtab
[06:39] <f_r[a] n_k> kutucape, for linux theres RPM in self-extracting file, or just Self-extracting file
[06:39] <itz> jewel, been there tried that... same shit
[06:40] <kutucape> itz, so it's not mounted
[06:40] <jewel> itz: The other way to do it (which is a lot easier) is to just boot the install CD in rescue mode or boot the live CD
[06:40] <jewel> itz: Then the drive won't be mounted at all and it should be easy
[06:40] <kutucape> itz, jewel is right... that is the safe option
[06:40] <MrBiscuit> Kyral: ./configure
[06:40] <MrBiscuit> Not found
[06:41] <kutucape> MrBiscuit, so try make && make install instead
[06:41] <itz> yeah i try the install cd cus fschk complaining oterhwise....
[06:41] <jewel> itz: You have to type "rescue" on the first screen that comes up
[06:41] <itz> bbl ;)
[06:41] <MrBiscuit> kutucap: No targets specified and no makefile found
[06:41] <itz> y np
[06:41] <jewel> itz: Good luck
[06:41] <itz> thx :d
[06:41] <MrBiscuit> Its a .ko file
[06:42] <itz> bbl hopefully :()
[06:42] <kutucape> hmm, strange, so please read README
[06:42] <kutucape> file
[06:42] <MrBiscuit> ?
[06:42] <MrBiscuit> No readme... just that one file
[06:42] <kutucape> find a document or something that give you a clue how to install it
[06:43] <MrBiscuit> Oh ok
[06:43] <kutucape> usually README file
[06:43] <Kyral> !topic
[06:44] <Kyral> !help topic
[06:45] <ValheruLord> anyone that tried kbfx?where must i copy the launch buttons pngs' ?
[06:45] <apokryphos> Kyral: what are you trying to do?
[06:45] <Kyral> get it to display topic
[06:45] <apokryphos> Kyral: /topic
[06:46] <Kyral> oh
[06:47] <petros> hi guys!
[06:47] <petros> is it really soooo difficult to use an own kernel in ubuntu???
[06:47] <kutucape> hi petros
[06:47] <kutucape> nope
[06:47] <petros> im trying to install ym 2.6.12 kernel
[06:47] <supernix>  I am not sure but I think my connection to the net is faster than when I was using my XP SP2 box
[06:47] <kutucape> just compile it and add it to grub
[06:47] <ValheruLord> hi all. i installed kbfx and wanna use a launch button of kde with it.. where must i copy the png
[06:48] <petros> and when i boot i get a lot of errors becaus of some modules
[06:48] <kutucape> supernix, you are right
[06:48] <petros> i followed the instruction on the ubutnu forum
[06:48] <apokryphos> petros: and they didn't work?
[06:48] <petros> i've created a package with make-kpkg
[06:48] <petros> and isntalled id
[06:48] <petros> went very well
[06:48] <kutucape> petros, make modules_install ?
[06:48] <supernix> I figured it would since M$ messed with the TCP/IP to inhibit P2P
[06:48] <petros> yes
[06:49] <petros> i did everything
[06:49] <Will_> supernix: QOS can do silly things
[06:49] <petros> is there a modules script at boot time that tries to load the modules?
[06:49] <kutucape> well, it happens to me when i was on compiling kernel for my linuxfromstrach, but i don't know then
[06:49] <supernix> So you mean the QOS alters your connection speed and such ?
[06:49] <apokryphos> ubotu: compilekernel is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065
[06:49] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[06:51] <charles> lol gaim has a buddy pounce option for when ppl sign off
[06:51] <charles> how would u msg someone
[06:51] <charles> after they sign off
[06:52] <Jowi> charles, it is called "email" :-)
[06:52] <ReneS> What is a  MD5Sum mismatch  and why would i get them when i an downloading programs ?
[06:53] <Will_> charles: Depends on the protocol surely? I know you can send offline messages with yahoo
[06:53] <shodgen> hi everyone.  I've looked in the ubuntu howto's, faqs, man pages, google, etc., and can't figure out how install a second version of python 2.3.5 along side the standard 2.4.1, where it doesn't automatically symlink to the new one.  I know I could just symlink myself, but I remember seeing a reference to this, just can't find it again.  anyone know how?
[06:53] <Jowi> ReneS, i got them while using the us.archive.... in /etc/apt/sources.list. remove the "us." and apt-get update
[06:53] <charles> yahoo, email, phhh who needs either of those
[06:53] <shodgen> using apt :-)
[06:53] <ReneS> Jowi thanks ill give that a try
[06:53] <MrBiscuit> Where do i get/find the kernal sources at
[06:54] <apokryphos> !compilekernel
[06:54] <ubotu> methinks compilekernel is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065
[06:54] <Will_> charles: Nice limited view there.
[06:54] <synkro> hi!
[06:55] <synkro> Where can I find a list if ubunto compatible RAID controller and how to install onn a RAID1 ?
[06:55] <thisisalex02> so if my external hdd is formatted ntfs i cannot write to it from within ubuntu correct?
[06:56] <action09> wrong
[06:56] <action09> Captive ntfs can write on ntfs
[06:57] <thisisalex02> captive ntfs
[06:57] <thisisalex02> i cannot change permissions..itll stay read only
[06:57] <Kyral> NO CAPTIVE NTFS!!
[06:57] <MrBiscuit> How come everytimei try to access /proc with nautilus it doesn't display anythign and sits there loading forever
[06:57] <Kyral> NO NO NO NO! I'm already fixing someone else who tried that and screwed up!
[06:57] <action09> i neevr used it but i know it's possible :)
[06:58] <Kyral> Using Captive NTFS is like instantly corrupting that drive
[06:58] <action09> i heard that :)
[06:58] <action09> make a backup first :)
[06:58] <Kyral> NO!!
[06:58] <Kyral> IDIOT!
[06:58] <Kyral> BAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA!
[06:59] <shodgen> MrBiscuit, nautilus is constantly trying to update the list, and /proc is always changing
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> So, how would i adda file to it
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> Or a folder
[06:59] <shodgen> you don't /proc contains a list of what processes are running
[06:59] <shodgen> run a program, that's how
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> ?
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> I need to add /pci to it in order for a driver to install
[07:00] <shodgen> that's /dev.  devices
[07:01] <shodgen> all /proc has in it is running processes.  there's many ways to get a process running, like a daemon in init.d, or off the shell, or in gnome, etc.  but you can't simply add a file to /proc
[07:01] <MarcC-away> wow it must be ubuntu primetime or something
[07:01] <itz> Where and when can i choose resque mode on install cd? only thing i saw was server expert or install mode.....
[07:02] <Kyral> itz, not on the CD
[07:02] <Kyral> the GRUB Menu
[07:02] <shodgen> yup
[07:02] <MrBiscuit> Nvm
[07:02] <itz> Kyral, oo did i get u so wrong? :/
[07:02] <MrBiscuit> i typed somthing random in the console and the installer opened
[07:02] <itz> ok bbl ;)
[07:03] <shodgen> wierd
[07:04] <uber_newber> very quiet in here
[07:04] <MrBiscuit> brb gotta get offline
[07:05] <shodgen> MrBiscuit: read http://linuxgazette.net/issue46/fink.html
[07:05] <shodgen> oops
[07:05] <keikoz> do somebody can help on the kernel compilation? that's what happens on boot: http://pastebin.com/311991
[07:06] <keikoz> if somebody have some idea ...
[07:06] <tim> hrm, I was getting those md5sum mismatch from us.archive.ubuntu too and so I removed that repository but now it still gives me the same thing (using synaptic) and it still says us.archive.ubuntu......
[07:06] <cmatheson> keikoz: you configured it wrong
[07:06] <cmatheson> keikoz: why are you compiling your own kernel?
[07:06] <keikoz> ah
[07:06] <keikoz> strange, cause i took the config file of the ubuntu-kernel
[07:07] <coreyo> I have an entry in my hdparm.conf to turn dma on for my dvd drive (hdb), however after ubuntu starts devfs and runs hdparm, it says "/dev/hdb: no such file or directory".  /dev/hdb is definitely there by the time I reach a login.  Any ideas?
[07:07] <kbrooks> keikoz, Don't.
[07:07] <^NaDiE^> wenas
[07:07] <mostrodibiscotti> I just looked at my sources.list file, and al repositories are uncommented and therefore added I think, but when I go to terminal, and I type
[07:07] <kbrooks> Cause then you need a initrd
[07:07] <cmatheson> keikoz: it may just be that you didn't make a new initrd image... did you use make-kpkg to build the kernel?
[07:07] <mostrodibiscotti> sudo apt-get webmin
[07:07] <keikoz> mmh and how do i compile a kernel with same options as the ubuntu-kernel then, using classical metode ?
[07:07] <mostrodibiscotti> it says bad package?
[07:07] <jasoncohen> anyone know how to use multiple email folders in evolution? I can't seem to find a way to force each POP account to use its own folder like I can in thunderbird.
[07:07] <mostrodibiscotti> how do I troubleshoot this
[07:08] <keikoz> i did a new initrd, using mkinitrd
[07:08] <keikoz> cmatheson i used classical way: make clean bzImage modules modules-install install
[07:08] <shodgen> anyone know how to use apt to install second (different) version of a software package where it doesn't update symlinks.  I want the original to be primary.  I remember seeing this somewhere, but cannot find it again after diligent googling, man pages, howtos, faqs, etc.
[07:09] <uber_newber> ne1 heard of graal online?
[07:09] <cartman> latest udev update on breezy looks broken
[07:09] <keikoz> after i did the initrd using mkinitrd
[07:09] <cartman> my /dev/hdc /dev/hdd devices are no longer created
[07:09] <cartman> anyone seen similar?
[07:09] <cmatheson> keikoz: ok, you're going to have to do some research on making a new initrd image (it's not hard), but you should use make-kpkg in the future... it's cleaner and will take care of some of that crap for you
[07:09] <Chillout> hi, the fan of my notebook is always running under ubuntu. powernow is enabled tho. anyone has a idea for solution?
[07:09] <keikoz> mmh ok
[07:09] <keikoz> i note it, thx cmatheson
[07:11] <mostrodibiscotti> my syntax was wrong
[07:11] <mostrodibiscotti> sorry
[07:11] <mostrodibiscotti> was not using "install"
[07:14] <delire> hola, an important question here regarding USB storage devices and hoary. we are about to use Ubuntu on some very public terminals for a big festival here in barcelona and i need to know whether anyone has had any "bad device descriptor" error (or similar), or in fact any other problems with USB storage devices. this and has anyone had issues sticks/cameras et al not popping up an icon on the desktop when plugged in..? on the od
[07:14] <tim> I'm getting md5sum mismatchs with packages from us.archive.ubuntu.com even after I've removed it from my sources.list - is it because I tried to install these same packages while I had us.archive.ubuntu in my sources.list?? is there a way to fix this, like cleaning out a cache or something
[07:14] <kbrooks> :/
[07:15] <cmatheson> tim: you need to apt-get update
[07:15] <kbrooks> tim: apt-get update
[07:15] <Chillout> hi, the fan of my notebook is always running under ubuntu. powernow is enabled tho. anyone has an idea for solution?
[07:15] <itz> In resque mode.... hde1 busy. hde5 not mounted but when fsck it says warning mounted. hdf/g/h i can unmount and fsck no problem at all..... GRRRr arrrggh :(
[07:15] <chipr> shodgen - i'd consider downloading the package and then using dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile to get a tar archive
[07:16] <itz> Do i have boot the live cd to check my file system? this seems very lol to me... ms windows here i come .... Grrr
[07:17] <kbrooks> no
[07:17] <itz> cant anybody help me????
[07:17] <coreyo> is there an easy way to get alsaconf?  It has disappeared from the alsa-utils package.
[07:18] <HappyFool> itz: what's the problem?
[07:18] <itz> HappyFool, i cant check my filesystem,,
[07:18] <delire> tim: coreyo: alsaconf is not in the ubuntu alsa-utils package ISTR
[07:18] <huami> HI! I am having a problem on ubuntu breezy with avermedia cardbus tv tuner.
[07:18] <delire> sorry tim, meant for coreyo only
[07:18] <HappyFool> itz: it's been a while since i manually checked my fs -- is it warning you about checking a mounted fs?
[07:19] <itz> it doesnt matter if its init 1 or resque mode it always says allready unmounted when umount but when fsck its says mounted warning and no other discs behaves this way
[07:19] <HappyFool> (fs=filesystem, sorry)
[07:19] <delire> coreyo: it is here in debian however.
[07:19] <basti> I have many problems with my sound... How to uninstall nVidia Drivers completely and how to set ALSA as Soundsystem? My Soundsystem is very curious
[07:19] <huami> dmesg prints 'cs: pcmcia_socket1: unable to apply power'
[07:19] <itz> HappyFool, yes it is but only on that partition and it doesnt matter what mode i do the check in
[07:19] <HappyFool> itz: do you have the live cd?
[07:19] <delire> coreyo: speak to crimsun as he's up to speed on the suitable replacement/method
[07:19] <HappyFool> itz: the root (i.e., /) fs will be mounted if you have a command line
[07:19] <kbrooks> Trying to compile Fox, but:
[07:20] <coreyo> delire: I think that it's supposed to be there, but someone messed up.  It's in the package description and comes up under the package searches.
[07:20] <itz> HappyFool, no but i got good connection so i can do it sooner but i think its really lol that thats the only way to do it
[07:20] <HappyFool> itz: maybe you can remount read-only
[07:20] <itz> HappyFool, no it doesnt work
[07:20] <cmatheson> itz: that's because you're doing it wrong
[07:20] <HappyFool> itz: i think there's also a way to unmount which forces a check on the next mount; not sure how you'd incorporate that in a shutdown
[07:20] <itz> cmatheson,  how shall i do it then?
[07:21] <cmatheson> itz: man mount
[07:21] <coreyo> crimsun: is there an easy way to get alsaconf for ubuntu hoary?    I never tried looking for it
[07:22] <Panzerboy> cmatheson: if you don't want to help him, don't respond to him
[07:22] <itz> uomount -r
[07:22] <HappyFool> err
[07:22] <itz> umount -r that is
[07:22] <Panzerboy> itz: it should be something like umount -o r / (from memory :P)
[07:22] <delire> coreyo: i believe module-init-tools sets up the module paramaters using sensible defaults
[07:23] <HappyFool> i think you should be using mount, not umount
[07:23] <Panzerboy> errr ... mount
[07:23] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:23] <delire> coreyo: frankly i like alsaconf, it's been nothing but a godsend for me over the years. it "Just Works TM"
[07:23] <CarlFK> I have perl installed, but I need "library POE/Session.pm" - what package has that?
[07:23] <itz> Panzerboy,       -r     In case unmounting fails, try to remount read-only.
[07:24] <itz> HappyFool,       -r     In case unmounting fails, try to remount read-only.
[07:24] <HappyFool> itz: ok, so what happens when you do a 'umount -r' ?
[07:24] <itz> Nothing
[07:24] <coreyo> delire: /etc/modutils rightout?  It doesn't require you to use update-modules to dump them all into a single file?
[07:24] <HappyFool> itz: no error message, even?
[07:24] <itz> nope nothing
[07:24] <HappyFool> itz: stand by
[07:24] <itz> thx
[07:24] <coreyo> delire:  alsa-conf is really only necessary for ISA cards... but if you have an ISA card, there's no other easy way to set it up
[07:24] <Panzerboy> itz: for remounting your / read only: mount -r -o remount /
[07:25] <delire> coreyo: i believe you must update-modules yes.
[07:25] <HappyFool> itz: what Panzerboy said looks right to me
[07:25] <HappyFool> itz: can you try this without leaving irc?
[07:25] <delire> coreyo: i started using linux just when PCI was becoming popular, so i guess i just kept on with it ;)
[07:25] <itz> Panzerboy, i can try that but man umount says that -r will do same thing...
[07:25] <itz> HappyFool, yes
[07:25] <coreyo> delire: but linux breathes new life into old computers.... hence my current problem
[07:25] <HappyFool> itz: please do
[07:26] <delire> itz: you can always try a lazy unmount, then a mount -r 'umount -l /'
[07:26] <HappyFool> itz: and then tell us what     mount|grep ' / '       says?
[07:26] <delire> coreyo: you can always purge the current alsa install and grab the source tarball
[07:27] <HappyFool> hopefully grep doesn't need a read-write fs
[07:27] <delire> hehe
[07:27] <coreyo> delire: I'd consider that a last resort... you'd think that they'd add/fix it in a later build
[07:27] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone know what nvram.bin is?
[07:27] <zyth> anyone using the new WoW patch yet?
[07:27] <MrBiscuit> World of Warcraft?
[07:27] <delire> coreyo: crimsun knows the new system inside and out.. i would ask him.
[07:28] <delire> MrBiscuit: isn't that an nvidia related script?
[07:28] <MrBiscuit> I don't think so
[07:28] <zyth> MrBiscuit, yeah, wow = world of warcraft
[07:28] <delire> MrBiscuit: ok
[07:28] <MrBiscuit> My modem install reports that it can't write to it
[07:28] <MrBiscuit> World of Warcraft.. Lol.. Why pay when you can get GW for free per month
[07:29] <DAWKIRST> GW?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Guild Wars
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:29] <itz> HappyFool, hde5 isnt mention in mount|grep but still fsck complaining on just that partition/drive
[07:29] <MrBiscuit> Guild Wars
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> I got them both.
[07:29] <alpha> whats a good x program for wifi
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> been playing BattleField2 lately
[07:29] <MrBiscuit> OoO
[07:29] <DAWKIRST> Where can I get GW?
[07:29] <HappyFool> itz: ok, what does 'mount|grep hde5' say?
[07:29] <MrBiscuit> DAWKIRST: Drive down to your local walmart
[07:29] <MrBiscuit> Lol
[07:29] <alpha> setting it up manually everytime im using a different station is a little much
[07:29] <delire> alpha: kwifimanager
[07:30] <delire> alpha: i don't use it however, i wrote my own in python.
[07:30] <alpha> delire: its lame
[07:30] <Druke> WoW is Over rated, been playing ti for a week, (mind ou i've played MMORPG for 6 years) i prefer EQ to WoW
[07:30] <MrBiscuit> How do i make a C header insto a .bin file
[07:30] <itz> HappyFool, it says nothing
[07:30] <delire> alpha: right, ok.
[07:30] <MrBiscuit> Everquest is really really old
[07:30] <HappyFool> itz: ok, what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hde| grep hde5' say ?
[07:30] <MrBiscuit> But still cool
[07:30] <alpha> delire: it really doesn't work well
[07:30] <delire> alpha: what do you need it to do?
[07:30] <BiSK-8> hello
[07:31] <MrBiscuit> Druke: Do you emu it in Linux or just use windows
[07:31] <alpha> delire: find a ap and then put in the key and work
[07:31] <Druke> anyways i'm ahving trouble DL'n java SKD dependencies from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[07:31] <HappyFool> itz: do you know what's on /dev/hde5? is it your main ubuntu partition, or what ?
[07:31] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how to install a theme on gnome?
[07:31] <Druke> MrBiscuit, windows, i dont play anymore, to many other things
[07:31] <my_haz> Hey chkrootkit just returned that my em0 is on promiscus mode
[07:31] <MrBiscuit> Druke: Why don't youjust d/l the SDK from the java sun sight
[07:31] <alpha> delire: now all it does is and say 100% connect to N/A
[07:31] <MrBiscuit> site*
[07:31] <delire> alpha: the key support is not really well looked after in linux. i use iwconfig for this.
[07:31] <my_haz> this may mean i have a sniffer , how do i fix?
[07:31] <Panzerboy> Dr_Willis: don't use us.
[07:31] <Panzerboy> uos
[07:31] <Panzerboy> ups
[07:31] <Panzerboy> sorrt
[07:32] <Panzerboy> sorry*
[07:32] <Panzerboy> i meant Druke
[07:32] <itz> HappyFool, i think its /home but now im getting unsure... even though i cant check any on hde5 and thats my installed drive so something is fucked
[07:32] <alpha> delire: i was hoping someones made a good app
[07:32] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how to install a theme on ubuntu??????????
[07:32] <delire> alpha: eg iwconfig eth0 key 0123-4567-89
[07:32] <itz> /dev/hde5           30261       30401     1132551   82
[07:32] <Druke> Panzerboy, ok so i should just use sun's?
[07:32] <Panzerboy> Druke: you can use the mail archive.ubuntu.com
[07:32] <Panzerboy> main
[07:32] <cmatheson> Druke: i like sun's better
[07:32] <Druke> ok
[07:32] <delire> alpha: i can give you my script, but i don't have key support in there.
[07:32] <kbrooks> itz, did you even use 4 partitions
[07:32] <alpha> delire: what about wpa
[07:32] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:32] <Druke> cmatheson, alright
[07:32] <MrBiscuit> Yea Druke
[07:32] <HappyFool> itz: wasn't there something on the end there?
[07:32] <MrBiscuit> Go SUN!
[07:32] <Druke> okies on it
[07:32] <cmatheson> Druke: it's not too hard to install... just just slap it in /usr/local/opt or something like that
[07:32] <Druke> thanks
[07:33] <itz> HappyFool,  no?
[07:33] <alpha> delire: web is near useless i can crack in in 5minutes
[07:33] <delire> alpha: all mine does is look for an AP, present the strength, provide a choice as to which one to connect to and ifupdown.
[07:33] <HappyFool> itz: hrm. just a moment
[07:33] <MrBiscuit> I installed java bcuz i needed juno for linux
[07:33] <Panzerboy> Druke: you want the jre or the jdk ?
[07:33] <delire> alpha: yeah, wep is pretty poor
[07:33] <HappyFool> itz: 82 is linux swap
[07:33] <Druke> JDK
[07:33] <MrBiscuit> But it still says Java - Command not found
[07:33] <itz> HappyFool, ok cant i check that?
[07:33] <Panzerboy> ok
[07:33] <HappyFool> itz: err. i don't think so
[07:33] <HappyFool> itz: it's not really a fs
[07:33] <HappyFool> itz: why do you want to do this checking?
[07:33] <kbrooks> itz: 4 partitions being (in  order of importance): /usr /var /tmp /home
[07:33] <delire> alpha: are you more talking about 'iwconfig eth0 key s:password [1] ' kind of stuff? eg password support?
[07:34] <itz> but cant u do a surface scan like in win? stuff dissappearing on hde...
[07:34] <djp> just a little reminder regarding java... http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html for those interested you understand ;)
[07:34] <alpha> delire: i just want something that works
[07:34] <HappyFool> itz: you can try 'badblocks' -- you probably want to have a boot cd for that, though
[07:34] <delire> alpha: does kwifi manager have key support? can't remember
[07:34] <HappyFool> itz: i think the fsck's only check filesystem integrity, though I may be wrong
[07:34] <itz> Argh why is everything this pain in the butt on linux :/
[07:35] <alpha> delire: yeah but only 11b
[07:35] <MrBiscuit> What is the zcast1_6.jar and the bwt300.jar, and where can i find them
[07:35] <delire> alpha: i know many people that really like it, i don't know why it doesn't work there. perhaps file a bug if you think that may be the case.
[07:35] <HappyFool> itz: there's also a smartmontools package
[07:35] <itz> in win its just some clicks
[07:35] <delire> alpha: ahah, not 'g.
[07:35] <HappyFool> itz: so it goes
[07:35] <delire> alpha: that is crap. perhaps see the webpage and check if there's a development version in the works.
[07:35] <alpha> delire: im in china and have around 1000 people in a 1km area so no way will i use wep
[07:36] <MrBiscuit> Alpha proves a strong point there
[07:36] <itz> HappyFool, anyway i can see inconcistency on a fsck -c so how do i do that on my hde drive?  argh.. maybe i need to see whats what first w8...
[07:36] <MrBiscuit> Umm does anyone here know php fairly well
[07:36] <alpha> MrBiscuit: i just can understand why wifi support in linux is so poor
[07:36] <delire> alpha: hehe
[07:36] <HappyFool> itz: you need to figure out what is mounted where, try to unmount it and run fsck
[07:36] <MrBiscuit> Heh. i have dialup
[07:37] <alpha> delire: its interesting
[07:37] <HappyFool> itz: or, in a worst case, remount read-only, as we've shown you how
[07:37] <MrBiscuit> And i have a very cheesey driver
[07:37] <hd420> grrr...
[07:37] <delire> alpha: it's on my big todo list in the coming years
[07:37] <hd420> I fux0red up apt
[07:37] <alpha> delire: ive been here for around 4months teaching english
[07:37] <MrBiscuit> Anyone know Php fairly well
[07:37] <hd420> is there a way for it to say refresh broken dependencies?
[07:38] <MrBiscuit> I need help with somthing
[07:38] <HappyFool> MrBiscuit: isn't there a #php ?
[07:38] <alpha> delire: $35usd/hr
[07:38] <philip_> how easy is upgrading one version of ubuntu to the next release, is it possible by apt?
[07:38] <itz> HappyFool, so hde1 is my "homedir" according to fstab but that drive says busy all time.....
[07:38] <MrBiscuit> I dunno... Ill look
[07:38] <delire> alpha: right, good. i'd like to see this superpower in it's late adolescene.
[07:38] <Druke> I know how to use a .rpm, how do i use an -rpm.bin?
[07:38] <Panzerboy> Druke: execute it
[07:38] <HappyFool> itz: well, you're logged in
[07:38] <Panzerboy> do a ls -la
[07:38] <itz> HappyFool, i try that drive in resque mode... hehe
[07:38] <Panzerboy> and see if it has the x :)
[07:38] <HappyFool> itz: go for it
[07:39] <itz> :p
[07:39] <delire> Druke: chmod +x it first then ./file.bin
[07:39] <Druke> delire, ah ok thanks
[07:39] <delire> Panzerboy: yes, best to check.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> rpm.bin ? we talking about suns java installer here?
[07:39] <Druke> Dr_Willis, aye
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Druke,  you proberly want to check the ubuntu wiki's and forums for a better way to install it then useing that.
[07:39] <alpha> delire: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ check this out
[07:40] <alpha> delire: looks very promising
[07:40] <Druke> Dr_Willis, alright
[07:40] <Panzerboy> Dr_Willis: it's about the jdk not the jre
[07:40] <brad> why am i getting MD5sum mismatch errors while using apt
[07:40] <delire> alpha: hmm, you're right.
[07:40] <hd420> does apt have a rescue mode or do i need to reinstall the whole system?
[07:40] <hd420> i screwed up apache pretty badly
[07:40] <delire> alpha: there may be some info on kwifimanager here of use: http://kwifimanager.sourceforge.net/
[07:41] <chrissturm> hd420, what did you do?
[07:41] <delire> brad: did you apt-get update first?
[07:41] <amittp> Hi, can anyone help me with this. I have router at my home. And my pc is connected through this. I want to run ssh on it, but not sure how i access it from outside
[07:41] <brad> delire : yes
[07:41] <HappyFool> brad: you in the US ? the us apt mirror was broken over the weekend, afaik
[07:41] <hd420> chrissturm: edited the config file manually, removed parts of it without realising it, etc.
[07:41] <Panzerboy> amittp: you need to do port forwarding from the router to the pc
[07:41] <amittp> running ifconfig shows only eth-0 interface with 192.x.x.x ip
[07:41] <delire> alpha: i'd grab that snapshot and give it a try. ever compiled softare before?
[07:41] <Panzerboy> amittp: this depends on the router
[07:42] <Panzerboy> amittp: it's speciffic for every router
[07:42] <brad> happyfool, yes im in the US, noticed it yesterday was hoping it would fix itself overnight heh
[07:42] <alpha> delire:  yeah ive tempted to
[07:42] <alpha> delire: i wish it was a package
[07:42] <HappyFool> brad: you can change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <Panzerboy> amittp: you need to forward port 22 TCP to the pc
[07:42] <hd420> don't tell me i need to reinstall from scratch now?
[07:42] <chrissturm> hd420: you can completely remove it with synaptic, and then install it again
[07:42] <brad> happyfool : thank you
[07:42] <delire> amittp: you'll need to setup port forwarding to the internal IP from the router.
[07:42] <Panzerboy> amittp: so check out the router's manual
[07:43] <hd420> chrissturm: ok... i'll try that
[07:43] <Panzerboy> amittp: on how to do port forwarding
[07:43] <amittp> Panzerboy, thanks
[07:43] <amittp> delire, ty
[07:43] <hd420> synaptic -- command not found
[07:43] <delire> amittp: my wording was bad, Panzerboy is clearer.
[07:44] <MrBiscuit> I am Corn Holio
[07:44] <MrBiscuit> I need TPfor my bunghole!
[07:44] <delire> alpha: you can try building a debian package using build-package via dpkg-deb
[07:44] <delire> alpha: grab the source and i'll take you through a compile if you like.
[07:45] <alpha> delire: i have the tarball
[07:45] <delire> alpha: that said, it looks like rpm's are around. perhaps see rpmfind.net first
[07:45] <hd420> chriss: where would synaptic be on my system?
[07:45] <amittp> Panzerboy, there is something called as d-zone, if i set my pc for in that zone, will it work?
[07:45] <alpha> delire: how do i use the rpms i have them as well
[07:45] <delire> alpha: using 'alien' perhaps we can then create a debian package.
[07:45] <nalioth> delire: how does your method differ from apt-get build-dep <pkg> && apt-get source- b <pkg>  ?
[07:46] <delire> alpha: alien is excellent for this.
[07:46] <Panzerboy> amittp: i have no idea, maybe
[07:46] <cmatheson> alpha: alien seems to work ok, but it's a gross hack... if you can build from source or something that would be a lot better
[07:46] <hd420> oh, i might add that this is a headless box a few timezones away
[07:46] <Panzerboy> amittp: i guess that's a DMZ
[07:46] <amittp> Panzerboy, according to manual that gives direct access
[07:46] <delire> nalioth: it doesn't really.
[07:46] <amittp> yep dmz
[07:46] <Panzerboy> amittp: what router do you have?
[07:46] <SDFH_Linux> guys is it safe to move to gcc 4.0 and mozilla 1.04 from backports?
[07:46] <Panzerboy> amittp: then i guess it will work
[07:46] <brad> I did
[07:46] <amittp> Panzerboy, its d-link router
[07:46] <Panzerboy> amittp: but you should be able to do port forwarding only to some ports
[07:47] <amittp> Panzerboy, vague reply, i will have to look in for model number :D
[07:47] <Panzerboy> amittp: :)
[07:47] <delire> amittp: Panzerboy is right. it would have to be a very poor router for this to not be the case.
[07:47] <Panzerboy> amittp: i guess on the d-link site there must be a manual
[07:47] <SDFH_Linux> so nothing break movinig to firefox 1.0.4 and gcc 4.0?
[07:47] <amittp> delire, meaning?
[07:47] <SDFH_Linux> will*
[07:47] <alpha> delire: so compile it is
[07:47] <pax> on a new 80G HD, installing ubuntu, and knowing a complete bloated installed wouldn't take more than 6G. How much space would you give to /  , /usr , /var , /etc , and /home ?
[07:47] <Panzerboy> amittp: but afaik d-link makes good hardware
[07:47] <HappyFool> hd420: /usr/sbin/synaptic
[07:47] <delire> amittp: port forwarding is a standard feature of any modern router.
[07:47] <HappyFool> hd420: it's an X-window app -- you have X-forwarding or whatever?
[07:48] <delire> alpha: ok, what is the suffix of the tar ball?
[07:48] <itz> HappyFool, drive busy in resque mode like last time i treid o forgot starting to get messy :/
[07:48] <amittp> delire, ok, let me just look into port forwarding :) thats for suggestions Panzerboy
[07:48] <Panzerboy> amittp: even on my strange siemens router i was able to do port fortwarding :)
[07:48] <HappyFool> itz: this is /dev/hde1 ?
[07:48] <Panzerboy> amittp: you're welcome :)
[07:48] <hd420> HappyFool: my whole system is now screwed up
[07:48] <amittp> Panzerboy, s/tants/thanks
[07:48] <hd420> lovely
[07:48] <itz> HappyFool, yes
[07:48] <delire> amittp: anytime
[07:48] <cmatheson> pax: it seems like (at least for me on a desktop machine (obviously servers are different), all my space is in /home (because i'm keeping all my movies/mp3s there...) so i would allocate most of the space there
[07:48] <nalioth> delire: catch me later, then
[07:49] <hd420> I'll just do a backup of my home directory and reinstall from scratch this evening
[07:49] <HappyFool> itz: you're in rescue mode?
[07:49] <itz> yes i was
[07:49] <hd420> it's entirely annoying
[07:49] <delire> nalioth: ok, ciao
[07:49] <Druke> where should i instal the jdk?
[07:49] <hd420> synaptic isn't installing
[07:49] <hd420> because apt is fux0red
[07:49] <nalioth> delire: catch me later re dpkg vs apt-get
[07:49] <HappyFool> hd420: you can try 'sudo /usr/bin/aptitude'  -- text 'ui' for apt.
[07:49] <Panzerboy> hd420: slow down
[07:49] <cmatheson> Druke: i tend to put it in /usr/local/opt/jdk-<fooversion>
[07:49] <Panzerboy> hd420: take a deep breath
[07:49] <nalioth> delire: i'm in learning mode today
[07:49] <pax> cmatheson: yes, but how much would you give to root /etc /usr /vaar ?
[07:50] <alpha> delire: gz
[07:50] <delire> nalioth: ahah, you want to know about dpkg-deb ?
[07:50] <Panzerboy> hd420: and now ... what exactly is the problem?
[07:50] <uber_newber> is there a way to install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter thru synaptic?
[07:50] <itz> HappyFool, when trying that yes i was... i tried that before also but i was unsure.. tryed remounting it ro but nothing happened
[07:50] <delire> alpha: ok, 'tar xvzf file.tar.gz'
[07:50] <nalioth> delire: i DID ask about it a few minutes ago (was gonna sit in on your class)
[07:50] <rob_lt> Druke, why not use "java-package" to create a .deb and let dpkg take care of it?
[07:50] <Panzerboy> delire: you're a teacher?
[07:51] <nalioth> Panzerboy: we are all teachers
[07:51] <hd420> Panzer: i need to force a reinstallation of apache, any idea of how to do this?
[07:51] <delire> nalioth: hehe not a good class day today, we're going to compile this wifi manager and also, it's too hot to think here in barcelona..
[07:51] <rob_lt> what's the bot's name in here?
[07:51] <delire> Panzerboy: yes
[07:51] <Panzerboy> delire: cool :)
[07:51] <Panzerboy> rob_lt: ubotu
[07:51] <cmatheson> pax: well /etc is just text files, it's obviously not going to need more than a few meg (maybe give it 60M to be really generous... /usr will be bigger, give that one 10G, /var shouldn't get too big unless you're running database stuff... give it a few hundred meg.  These are obviously just estimates, but they should be pretty decent for a desktop system... then again, you can always resize if they're too big/too small
[07:51] <delire> nalioth: you're a good teacher yourself, i've watched you here.
[07:51] <Panzerboy> hd420: can't you just apt-get purge it ?
[07:51] <HappyFool> itz: mounting /home read-only while logged in with gnome (or kde) is probably not a great idea
[07:51] <Druke> rob_lt, the .deb gave errors
[07:51] <hd420> no
[07:52] <HappyFool> itz: what does 'mount|grep /dev/hde1' say?
[07:52] <hd420> panzer: no, that's the problem
[07:52] <nalioth> delire: just wanted to know the diffs tween source buildin with dpkg vs apt (same result)
[07:52] <alpha> delire: then ./install?
[07:52] <itz> HappyFool, i dl live cd and try from there... seems like the only thing... maybe its due to my lack of knowledge but at least i get the job done then,.. do i need to do anything special in bootup at live cd so it doesnt mess with hde drive?
[07:52] <Druke> ./j2sdk_1.4.2_08-1_i386.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:52] <Druke> ./j2sdk_1.4.2_08-1_i386.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'
[07:52] <hd420> apaxhe isn't even shown as installed
[07:52] <rob_lt> Druke, when you tried to create it with make-jpkg?
[07:53] <Panzerboy> Druke: sudo dpkg -i blabla.deb
[07:53] <Djhasis> Does anyone know how to change the port of gnome's vnc-service?
[07:53] <HappyFool> itz: whatevr it does, you can unmount it
[07:53] <Druke> rob_lt, i have not will try
[07:53] <rob_lt> Druke, dpkg -i j2sdk_1.4.2_08-1_i386.deb
[07:53] <HappyFool> itz: the livecd won't write to hard-drive by default
[07:53] <delire> alpha: the extraction process would have created a folder. cd into it and then look for a file called 'INSTALL', if not present, 'README'.
[07:53] <rob_lt> Druke, or install "java-package" and make your own deb with the command make-jpkg that comes with it.
[07:53] <itz> HappyFool, m
[07:53] <pax> cmatheson: thx. I believe the best way to find out is to have just / and /home. Give the first 30G and the rest to /home .. then install all the junk and check how much space each is using
[07:53] <cmatheson> Djhasis: i'm just guessing but their may be a gconf setting (try browsing around in gconf-editor)
[07:53] <rob_lt> Druke, you install individual .deb files with dpkg -i
[07:53] <delire> alpha: we're going to look for dependencies required on the system in order to built the software.
[07:53] <Panzerboy> hd420: what's the output of sudo apt-get purge apache?
[07:53] <kestas> anyone here got a mac?
[07:53] <pax> delire: how can I attend the class?
[07:53] <itz> HappyFool, /dev/hde1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:54] <cmatheson> pax: yeah, that sounds like a reasonable solution
[07:54] <Druke> rob_lt,  i see
[07:54] <HappyFool> itz: so it's not /home, it's /
[07:54] <itz> HappyFool, it wont even use harddrive to swapfile or anything?
[07:54] <hd420> Panzer: invalid operation purge
[07:54] <itz> HappyFool, yes
[07:54] <HappyFool> itz: anyway, the livecd sounds like a plan to me if you have the bandwidth
[07:54] <Panzerboy> hd420: apt-get -f install ?
[07:54] <HappyFool> itz: i don't think so
[07:54] <bluefoxicy> digitalfox:  hi
[07:54] <itz> HappyFool, yes i do... is it a problem that its / ?
[07:54] <nuttychicken> anyone know of an ide for c/c++ i'm new to linux?
[07:55] <HappyFool> itz: the whole idea is you can run it on a system and not touch the hard-drive
[07:55] <hd420> "is already at newest version"
[07:55] <delire> pax: hehe no class today, i'm a graphics programmer, game developer. i teach comp sci students how to make computer games and interactive software using free software.
[07:55] <Panzerboy> nuttychicken: kdevelop
[07:55] <pax> cmatheson: the thing is, this box is a learning ground, so it will be a server + desktop, so kinda hard to decide on space
[07:55] <HappyFool> itz: not especially
[07:55] <Panzerboy> nuttychicken: or eclipse + ctp
[07:55] <Druke> what can i use tom compile a java program now? gcc?
[07:55] <nalioth> nuttychicken: you mean like kdevelop?
[07:55] <nuttychicken> gnome? kdevelop?
[07:55] <Panzerboy> nuttychicken: or anjuta
[07:55] <HappyFool> itz: if you want a 'surface' scan, you probably want badblocks, not fsck
[07:55] <pax> delire: can I attend the class just to get free games? :p
[07:55] <Panzerboy> nuttychicken: you can use anjuta
[07:55] <itz> HappyFool, ok ill do that later... livecd is fun to have anyway... damn disturbing though.....
[07:55] <cmatheson> pax: yeah that's true
[07:55] <rob_lt> Druke, javac?
[07:56] <nalioth> Druke: gcj is normally used to compile java, iirc
[07:56] <rdamato> I'm no Linux newbie, but I must admit that the base install of Ubuntu makes installing Win98 look hard!
[07:56] <Druke> rob_lt, didn't realize that was a compiler ok thanks
[07:56] <cmatheson> pax: i'm running a bunch of stuff on this desktop (it's my desktop/testing ground here at work), so i got the same thing going on
[07:56] <Panzerboy> rdamato: :)
[07:56] <delire> pax: hehe sure.. come to denmark or spain and i'll give you a free class.
[07:56] <itz> HappyFool, maybe but i know when i drive is bad u see it on fsck also... at least as inconcistency
[07:56] <HappyFool> itz: be careful with badblocks -- read the man page carefully
[07:56] <itz> HappyFool, ok
[07:56] <Panzerboy> nalioth: only for the "free" java
[07:56] <nuttychicken> sorry may show my linux ignorance but will kdevelop work in gnome?
[07:56] <rob_lt> Druke, as far as I know (I don't use java much), java is the jvm, and javac is the compiler
[07:56] <HappyFool> itz: depends where the corruption happened
[07:56] <rdamato> I love this os, I'm a BSD convert!
[07:56] <Panzerboy> for sun's jvm, it's javac
[07:56] <HappyFool> itz: though i'm definitely no fs guru
[07:56] <pax> delire: oh so you are a real life teacher, I was thinking online classes
[07:56] <hd420> I'm thinking of going back to FreeBSD
[07:56] <itz> HappyFool, well sine like 30gb is lost it should be found either way
[07:56] <nalioth> Panzerboy: ok, then
[07:57] <Druke> rob_lt,  nalioth says to use gcj
[07:57] <nalioth> nuttychicken: yes, kde apps work fine in gnome
[07:57] <HappyFool> itz: ouch
[07:57] <hd420> it's package system is infintely saner than apt
[07:57] <synap> heya mates, ubuntu feels very nice, tho I keep getting md5 mismatches on package install, any ide?
[07:57] <itz> HappyFool, tell me about it
[07:57] <synap> idea
[07:57] <rob_lt> Druke, ok
[07:57] <nalioth> !usrepos
[07:57] <ubotu> from memory, usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <nalioth> synap: read ^^^^^
[07:57] <rdamato> FreeBSD has better security i've heard--haven't verified this.
[07:57] <nuttychicken> thanks for the help everyone
[07:57] <synap> aah alright, will do that
[07:57] <synap> thanks
[07:57] <Panzerboy> Druke: if you have sun's jdk installed, use javac
[07:58] <Panzerboy> Druke: if you want to use the free java implementation from gnu, use gcj
[07:58] <Druke> Panzerboy, alright
[07:58] <synap> thank you
[07:58] <delire> alpha: how are you going there?
[07:58] <pax> cmatheson: too bad Ubuntu doesn't have a sophesticated install system, where it ask what the box will be used for, then suggest two partions for Desktop or several for server .. Debian got something like that
[07:58] <alpha> delire: it needs iwlib.h i tried an compile and it died saying i need wireless-tools
[07:58] <Panzerboy> pax: the installer in ubuntu is exactly debian's installer
[07:58] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:58] <rdamato> True that
[07:58] <alpha> delire: but i have wireless tools
[07:58] <pax> is it?
[07:58] <Panzerboy> yeah
[07:59] <synap> aah thank you, last question, what is a good wireless network finder tool ?
[07:59] <pax> I missed that I guess
[07:59] <Djhasis> cmatheson, Is there any other way to change the port of vnc cause I can't install gconf with apt-get cause it can't install liborbit0_0.5.17-11.1_i386.deb and oaf_0.6.10-3_i386.deb
[07:59] <brad> well its debians new installer
[07:59] <randykay> Hello All.
[07:59] <rob_lt> synap, kismet
[07:59] <Druke> rob_lt, how do i execute a compilied program with javac
[07:59] <Panzerboy> brad's correct, it's the installer sarge uses
[07:59] <randykay> How's Breezy comin'.  Ready for daily use yet?
[07:59] <kbrooks> bbl
[08:00] <Djhasis> cmatheson, I downloaded those files to apt's archive-folder but the md5 of those isn't the same what apt want's them to be
[08:00] <nalioth> randykay: sure, on an extra box
[08:00] <Panzerboy> Druke: with javac you only compile it, to run it, you use the "java" program
[08:00] <delire> alpha: yes, you need the development files for wireless-tools
[08:00] <rob_lt> Druke, if it is compiled, run it with java /path/to/java/app, or you might even be able to make it executable and ./programname it
[08:00] <nalioth> Djhasis: read the last thing ubotu said
[08:00] <hd420> errors were encountered installing apache...
[08:01] <hd420> How do i find out what the errors were?
[08:01] <randykay> nalioth:  I guess I won't upgrade Hoary on my main box just yet then.
[08:01] <Druke> rob_lt,  alright java /path/ works, thank you, how do i create an executable?
[08:01] <cmatheson> pax: yeah that would be nice to have a seperate route for the server install
[08:01] <nalioth> randykay: i'd wait til it says "release candidate"
[08:01] <alpha> delire: which section would those be in
[08:01] <delire> alpha: the source tarball of wireless-tools contains this file. you may need to change the path in the MAKEFILE to link against this file during compilation. if you like we can just try the *.rpm
[08:01] <cmatheson> Djhasis: you need to change all the 'us.archive' lines to just 'archive.bu...' in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:01] <rob_lt> Druke, is this something you compiled yourself?
[08:01] <Panzerboy> Druke: chmod u+x /path/to/java/app
[08:02] <Panzerboy> i am not sure though it will be recognized by the system
[08:02] <hd420> cmatheson: i just did that, it's no better
[08:02] <HappyFool> !usrepos
[08:02] <ubotu> it has been said that usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:02] <pax> cmatheson: ubuntu is newb oriented, so I doubt they will come up with something like that tho
[08:02] <delire> alpha: here, in debian, there is only the binary package for wireless-tools. i got the source tarball from the wireless-tools page.
[08:02] <randykay> nalioth: Any way to get Gnome 2.11 in Hoary without breaking it?
[08:02] <Druke> rob_lt, yes, thanks Panzerboy
[08:02] <cmatheson> hd420: you need to apt-get update
[08:02] <nalioth> randykay: with linux all things are possible, how talented are you?
[08:02] <Panzerboy> randykay: use garnome :)
[08:02] <rdamato> Is there an FTP server package for Ubuntu?
[08:02] <nalioth> rdamato: several
[08:02] <rasputnik> rdamato: lots, apt-cache search ftp
[08:02] <rdamato> Recommendations?
[08:03] <cmatheson> pax: yeah, possibly not... however there is the 'server' option when you start the install cd... it seems like they could just make a whole seperate installer (or at least seperate config options in the staller)
[08:03] <zyth> MS IIS
[08:03] <pax> rdamato: apt-cache is your friend
[08:03] <Druke> rob_lt, i have the java file and the class file in a folder
[08:03] <itz> rdamato, ill recomend proftd
[08:03] <rasputnik> rdamato: proftpd did me well, easy to learn if you know apache
[08:03] <itz> rdamato, ill recomend proftpd
[08:03] <randykay> Panzerboy: I never could get that to complete.
[08:03] <delire> alpha: if i were you i would 'wget -c http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/0.4/NetworkManager-0.4-11.cvs20050506.i386.rpm && sudo alien NetworkManager-0.4-11.cvs20050506.i386.rpm', then use 'dpkg -i file.deb' to install the generated debian package.
[08:03] <rob_lt> Druke, if you want to be able to run it as though it was a normal program, you will likely have to create a small bash script, make the script executable, and place it in your path
[08:03] <randykay> nalioth: I think I'm about a mid-grade.
[08:03] <rdamato> Thanx, Apache I know...
[08:03] <rdamato> Will try proftpd
[08:03] <rob_lt> #!/bin/bash
[08:03] <rob_lt> java /path/
[08:03] <pax> cmatheson: I spoke too soon I guess, never knew there's a server option
[08:03] <Panzerboy> randykay: in that case, i doubt you would be able to get it into hoary
[08:03] <rob_lt> Druke, like those two lines ^^^
[08:03] <Druke> rob_lt, alright thanks once again
[08:03] <benkong2> if i replace <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain with <IP_ADDRESS> benkong2.ath.cx which is my dyndns address what will happen?
[08:04] <nalioth> randykay: Panzerboy suggested gargnome
[08:04] <Djhasis> cmatheson, nalioth, ubotu still apt says the same annoying error
[08:04] <rob_lt> Druke, np
[08:04] <kutucape> or jhbuild
[08:04] <zyth> benkong2, don't replace it, add the alias
[08:04] <hd420> does apt have a verbose mode so i can see what the exact problem is?
[08:04] <Djhasis> I changed the server but it just doesn't properly work
[08:04] <benkong2> zyth, thanks
[08:04] <Panzerboy> kutucape: thanks, forgot about jhbuild :)
[08:04] <cmatheson> pax: it's still not sophisticated enough... basically it just does the same thing but not installing the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[08:04] <cmatheson> Djhasis: paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[08:04] <zyth> benkong2, and all it'll let you do is refer to your own box as benkong2.ath.cx ...
[08:05] <HappyFool> hd420: hrm. not obviously. -V seems to just be 'verbose versions'
[08:05] <pax> cmatheson: ah ok, so full install minus X stuff
[08:05] <benkong2> zyth, I am also trying to get my box reffered to by outside folks at that address.
[08:05] <youth> okay i need help. as always. i swear i'm not this dumb most of the time.
[08:05] <delire> zyth: do you use WoW with wine?
[08:05] <zyth> delire, yes
[08:05] <randykay> nalioth: Guess I'll wait to do the whole deal with Breezy.
[08:05] <delire> zyth: if so, how is the performance?
[08:05] <cmatheson> pax: yeah, that's basically it
[08:05] <HappyFool> hd420: can you paste output at a pastebin like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[08:06] <youth> i'm trying to get rhythmbox to work and i looekd on the forums, it says "you must install the gstreamer0.8-mad package. This package is in the universe repository"
[08:06] <youth>  how am i supposed to install this and what does the repo have to do with anything?
[08:06] <alpha> delire: k i did the the first part then dpkg
[08:06] <zyth> benkong2, you'd need to control your reverse DNS to get that to work for reverse lookups, but if you have dyndns they can refer to your system that way anyhow
[08:06] <nalioth> youth: licensing
[08:06] <youth> er. not the forums XD
[08:06] <youth> huh?
[08:06] <alpha> delire: is that it?
[08:06] <zyth> delire, 99%, the occasional graphical glitch, and I have to use a memwrapper someone on the gentoo forums came up with to get around a targeting bug
[08:07] <delire> alpha: ok so the deb generated..
[08:07] <walaber> hoping for a little help installing ubuntu: I used to have debianGNU installed, and I ran the ubuntu unstaller over it, re-formatting all linux partitions.
[08:07] <benkong2> zyth, ok so how do i get a fqdn in the system that says me.benkong2.ath.cx?
[08:07] <walaber> I had LILO for dual booting... anyway when I get to the GRUB setup in the ubuntu install, I get an error:
[08:07] <zyth> Non-authoritative answer:Name: benkong2.ath.cx Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:07] <walaber> "executing grub-install (hd0) failed"
[08:07] <alpha> delire: what do i do with the deb?
[08:07] <HappyFool> youth: see the top of that page
[08:08] <cmatheson> Djhasis: you've still got a line w/ us.archive in it
[08:08] <Djhasis> cmatheson, Did you get my msg
[08:08] <benkong2> zyth, hmm....guess its working
[08:08] <zyth> benkong2, ask your ISP nicely? they have to add the reverse DNS
[08:08] <HappyFool> youth: it has links on 'How to add repositories'
[08:08] <Djhasis> private msg
[08:08] <nalioth> youth: the different repos are there due to licensing reasons
[08:08] <cmatheson> Djhasis: check line 2
[08:08] <Djhasis> damn
[08:08] <delire> alpha: use dpkg -i to install it. 'sudo dpkg -i file.deb'
[08:08] <benkong2> I was in a local bookstore and got connection refused from ssh awhile ago
[08:08] <HappyFool> and disk space and support constraints
[08:08] <Djhasis> I didn't change every line
[08:08] <youth> happyfool; I see that but wth am I adding?
[08:08] <zyth> benkong2, I can resolve benkong2.ath.cx to your IP, no one can resolve your IP to benkong2.ath.cx
[08:08] <alpha> delire: i did sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[08:09] <zyth> benkong2, DNS updating, firewalls.. who knows?  Do you have a port open on your router?
[08:09] <delire> alpha: errors?
[08:09] <HappyFool> youth: a network location with software to be installed on your computer
[08:09] <delire> alpha: it's likely..
[08:09] <alpha> delire: nope
[08:09] <basti> how to uninstall nvidia sound drivers?
[08:09] <benkong2> zyth, yes i have 22 forwarded to my internal box
[08:09] <delire> alpha: cool, so it installed. ok, what was the filename of the debian pacakge btw?
[08:09] <Djhasis> cmatheson, thanks alot
[08:10] <youth> o.o;
[08:10] <benkong2> zyth, if you can resolve then I should be able to put up a web page etc? and hit ssh correct? I have open sshd running
[08:10] <cmatheson> Djhasis: no problem
[08:10] <Djhasis> cmatheson, can you say to me way the us-server doesn't work properly with many other files also
[08:10] <HappyFool> basti: does 'sudo nvidia-glx-config disable' give any errors ?
[08:10] <basti> HappyFool,  not the graphic drivers!
[08:10] <basti> I mean the sound ones
[08:10] <HappyFool> basti: oops
[08:10] <HappyFool> basti: my apologies
[08:10] <hd420> pasted
[08:10] <HappyFool> basti: not a clue, sorry
[08:11] <cmatheson> Djhasis: i'm not sure... there's a bunch of corrupted files (so they're not matching the md5sums (which check the integrity).  the ubuntu folks know about it and they're working on it... should be up soon i'm guessing
[08:11] <basti> my sound system is totally crazy ;(
[08:11] <MrBiscuit> *Can't hear sound
[08:11] <hd420> this is entirely insane
[08:11] <alpha> delire: i just msg'd you what it said with what i did
[08:11] <MrBiscuit> Except the beeps that come out of my tower when i backspcae to far on a terminal
[08:11] <leroj> hello everybody. XMMS won't play my files, it just keeps freezing up
[08:11] <delire> alpha: yep saw that. try 'sudo networkmanager' from the commandline
[08:12] <hd420> happyfool: #530
[08:12] <Mez> Amaranth, you here?
[08:12] <HappyFool> hd420: i'm reading it...
[08:12] <alpha> delire: command not found
[08:12] <Mez> any ops here at all ?
[08:13] <alpha> delire: i did it with caps and it came up with an error
[08:13] <delire> alpha: ok try 'N' and then hit <TAB> to see what completes. maybe it's in the list there..
[08:13] <hd420> HappyFool:excellent
[08:13] <delire> alpha: right.. what error?
[08:13] <pedingto> Is there a program where I can do cam-chat with a windows user?
[08:13] <zyth> I <3 .bash_history
[08:13] <Valandil> leroj: which config? USB-Mouse on Laptop?
[08:13] <benkong2> zyth, thanks.
[08:13] <Djhasis> cmatheson, okay, thanks alot for your help!! It's very nice to get that fast help from you :)
[08:13] <delire> alpha: have you seen 'Day of the Beast'? that's a funny flick set in madrid.
[08:13] <zyth> benkong2, np
[08:13] <HappyFool> hd420: ok, first of all, i'm not a guru -- i can only suggest some ideas
[08:13] <delire> alpha: sorry! wrong nick ;)
[08:13] <Scarecrow> Yesturday I installed Ubuntu and the mouse is lagging all the time. Any ideas how to fix this?
[08:14] <zyth> delire, but yeah, WoW is almost 100% for me on Wine on Hoary
[08:14] <hd420> Happy: ok, go on...
[08:14] <HappyFool> hd420: what command was that the output of ?
[08:14] <delire> zyth: excellent! why they wrote an Apple client and not a Linux one i don't know.
[08:14] <zyth> Scarecrow, System -> Preferences -> Mouse
[08:14] <hd420> apt-get install apache
[08:14] <Scarecrow> zyth: something specific there?
[08:14] <zyth> delire, oh, there *is* a Linux client (or was near end of beta), but for some reason...
[08:14] <leroj> Valandil, i am on a desktop PC with a USB mouse
[08:15] <delire> zyth: bastards!
[08:15] <zyth> Scarecrow, yes, the 'motion' tab
[08:15] <delire> alpha: what was the error?
[08:15] <Scarecrow> I'll have a look, thanks :)
[08:15] <alpha> delire: i pasted it to you
[08:15] <HappyFool> hd420: apt-get remove fails too ?
[08:15] <hd420> Happy: yes
[08:15] <hd420> asdoes apt-get remove --purge
[08:16] <g0rd0n> cafuego: hoary->sarge without any major trouble :)
[08:16] <delire> alpha: i didn't get it, can you paste it to a pastebin?
[08:16] <Valandil> leroj: I Had same Problem with fujitsu-siemens-Laptop. There was a conflict with usb-mouse, gafik-card and xmms. without mouse, it worked. Kernel-Upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6 worked
[08:16] <youth> i don't need to uncomment universe, do it?
[08:16] <youth> i*
[08:17] <leroj> hmm
[08:17] <leroj> thanks
[08:17] <HappyFool> hd420: ok, can you paste the output of 'dpkg -s apache' to the pastebin?
[08:17] <Valandil> leroj: try system without Mouse or with ps/2 for testing
[08:17] <alpha> delire: which paste bin
[08:17] <delire> alpha: pastebin.com is fine
[08:17] <zyth> I want to make an Ubuntu WoW Guild :(
[08:17] <leroj> i'll try that later
[08:17] <Valandil> OK :-)
[08:17] <leroj> zyth, you geek :P
[08:18] <zyth> leroj, moi?! never!
[08:18] <alpha> delire: done
[08:18] <leroj> how do you get Rythmbox to play mp3's?
[08:18] <HappyFool> hd420: also, can you briefly describe your system -- architecture, how you installed, and whatever you think pertinent
[08:19] <zyth> leroj, apt-get install gstreamer-mad I do believe.
[08:19] <delire> alpha: send me the link. last post was 8mins ago according to pastebin.com here
[08:19] <Druke> how do you add something to PATH ?
[08:19] <[SemTeX] > hi, it looks like my breezy is missing /all/ these xlibs: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/529
[08:19] <[SemTeX] > any suggestions how to fix that? :/
[08:19] <zyth> [SemTeX] , by not using breezy
[08:20] <zyth> since it's all borked.
[08:20] <nalioth> leroj: gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:20] <alpha> delire: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/531
[08:20] <leroj> ah'
[08:20] <zyth> [SemTeX] , see topic.
[08:20] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell leroj restricted
[08:20] <apokryphos> hm
[08:20] <apokryphos> !restricted
[08:20] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:20] <hd420> Happy: ok
[08:21] <kutucape> leroj, download gstreamer-mad, libmad
[08:21] <delire> [SemTeX] : hehe why are you playing with breezy?
[08:21] <apokryphos> !find gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:21] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[08:21] <HappyFool> hd420: ok, it's status is 'installed half-configured', though i guess we knew that
[08:21] <youth> what's the point in uncommenting universe?
[08:21] <apokryphos> kutucape: gotta have the 0.8 ;-)
[08:22] <kutucape> apokryphos, yeah you are right
[08:22] <apokryphos> youth: to have things that are only officially supported by Ubuntu
[08:22] <kutucape> although it's restricted
[08:22] <fumbalah> what are the new mirrors for ubuntu, i removed the us. which was what I though they were, and just made it archive., but it doesnt seeem to want to work
[08:22] <hd420> Happy: I just need to know WHAT specifically, the error is
[08:22] <[SemTeX] > delire: because i have some rare hardware to test...
[08:22] <delire> alpha: install libhal
[08:22] <kutucape> but there are many mp3's users out there
[08:22] <delire> [SemTeX] : ahah.. rare as in old?
[08:22] <HappyFool> hd420: ok, let's try to use dpkg to remove it; dpkg *does* have verbosity options
[08:22] <youth> -uses mp3s-
[08:22] <delire> alpha: here in debian it is libhal0
[08:22] <alpha> delire: done
[08:22] <HappyFool> hd420: look at 'man dpkg' -- toward the bottom there's a -D flag
[08:22] <hd420> happy: ok... what's the command?
[08:22] <delire> alpha: try again
[08:22] <youth> apokryphos; so i have to do this to add a repo to use rhytmbox?
[08:23] <alpha> delire: nope
[08:23] <apokryphos> youth: for running restricted formats you'll need Universe/Multiverse, yes
[08:23] <[SemTeX] > delire: via epia m10000 board with c3 cpu...
[08:23] <HappyFool> hd420: dpkg -D2 --purge apache
[08:23] <apokryphos> kutucape: they do.. i.e. amaroK
[08:23] <youth> apo; thanks~
[08:23] <kutucape> apokryphos, Amaranth is sux...
[08:24] <kutucape> i try to download KDE and then delete all gnome related
[08:24] <apokryphos> kutucape: ?
[08:24] <kutucape> but after 2 days, i returned back to gnome..
[08:24] <apokryphos> Whatever floats your boat
[08:24] <The_Vox> apokryphos: amarok only supports mp3 for streaming?
[08:25] <kutucape> my computer is Pentium III 1 GHz with 128 Megs and it runs smoothly with ubuntu
[08:25] <kutucape> espesially gnome
[08:25] <kutucape> rhytmbox do this...
[08:25] <apokryphos> The_Vox: no
[08:25] <HappyFool> hd420: if that doesn't give enough info, we can increase the verbosity
[08:25] <kutucape> they can play streaming audio
[08:25] <kutucape> very nice...
[08:26] <apokryphos> kutucape: so why did you return?
[08:26] <The_Vox> apokryphos: oh, ok, I thought that was what you meant :)