[12:33] <ubotu> New bug: #136481 in php5 (main) "make php-pear depend on php-dev (for pecl)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136481
[12:33] <ubotu> New bug: #136483 in mythbuntu "mythstream-0.17.2 fails to load in mythtv-0.20.2" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136483
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #136484 in ubuntu "[Needs-packaging]  LiVES video editing system (dup-of: 103616)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136484
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136486 in compiz (main) "Compiz - no window decorations after update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136486
[01:17] <ubotu> New bug: #136488 in ubuntu "ubuntu doesn't see my broadcom 4311" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136488
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #136490 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[shares-admin]  Add share window is too tight" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136490
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136491 in scigraphica (universe) "Please remove scigraphica from gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136491
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136492 in textopo (universe) "Please remove textopo from gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136492
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136494 in ivi (universe) "Please remove ivi from gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136494
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136495 in llvm (universe) "Please upgrade llvm" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136495
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #136498 in glibc (main) "Replacing lib-c6 in  Gutsy-Tribe 3 causes crash on every login therafter" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136498
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136504 in gnome-network (universe) "Unable to connect to networks with hidden SSID (gutsy and iwlwifi)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136504
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #136506 in ubuntu "LG GSA-4167B (DVD drive): DMA doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136506
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #136507 in update-manager (main) "upgrading from feisty to gutsy, upgrade-manager -d tries to retrieve commercial packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136507
[04:07] <ubotu> New bug: #136509 in edubuntu-meta (main) "Desktop shows up twice in Gnome 'Places'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136509
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136512 in r-base (universe) "package r-base-core 2.5.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136512
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136513 in firefox (main) "firefox blinks when doesn't find a text" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136513
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136515 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "Tooltips do not disappear" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136515
[05:47] <crimsun> gnomefreak: pong, URL to a bug report or pastebin?
[05:47] <bddebian> crimsun: !!!
[05:48] <crimsun> bdmurray: RE: spdif: depends on the hardware (AC'97 or HDA codec info needed)
[05:48] <crimsun> hi barry :)
[06:02] <ubotu> New bug: #136516 in pmount (universe) "Please sync pmount (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136516
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #136519 in amarok (main) "error messages block Cancel button when transferring to device" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136519
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136520 in amarok (main) "Limit playlist size by megabytes, not tracks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136520
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136521 in amarok (main) "Lyrics don't copy to iPod" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136521
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136522 in amarok (main) "No automatic iPod sync" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136522
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136526 in mozilla-firefox (main) "Indic scripts not displayed properly (again)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136526
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136527 in libspf2 (universe) "Please sync libspf2 (universe) from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136527
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136529 in ubuntu "Can't log in after upgrading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136529
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136531 in pitivi (universe) "pitivi crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136531
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #136534 in keepalived (main) "autopkgtest gutsy keepalived: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136534
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #136537 in gnome-schedule (universe) "[Gutsy]  Unable to find documentation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136537
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136538 in valgrind (main) "memcheck crashed with SIGILL in do_syscall_WRK()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136538
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136539 in gcrontab (universe) "[Gutsy]  Rewrite the UI in GTK2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136539
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136543 in libnotify (main) "Popup during full-screen game causes crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136543
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136545 in laptop-mode-tools (main) "Power management for intel wifi cards: ipw2200 and ipw3945 (fix included)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136545
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136544 in etoken (universe) "[FTBFS]  etoken " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136544
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #136546 in smplayer (multiverse) "Please merge SMPlayer package to Gutsy repositories from the official site" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136546
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136547 in fxload (universe) "[FTBFS]  fxload (needs to be synced)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136547
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136548 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  SuperSwitcher" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136548
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #136549 in powertop (universe) "Powertop suggest to add usbcore.autosuspend=1 to grub's kernel line, doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136549
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #136550 in banshee (universe) "[Wishlist]  Split up Gstreamer-sharp in it's own Package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136550
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136551 in meta-kde (main) "slow delete trash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136551
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136552 in galculator (universe) "[FTBFS]  galculator " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136552
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136553 in compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (main) "Compiz-fusion transperancy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136553
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #136554 in acpi-support (main) "hibernate button gone after Gutsy update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136554
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #136555 in mol-drivers-macosx (multiverse) "mol-drivers-macsox not installable on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136555
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136556 in ubuntu "Quanta translation missing in kdei18n-pl (and others probabily)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136556
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136557 in gnome-panel (main) "firefox freezes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136557
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136560 in kdebase (main) "kde-base update install env and share folder at wrong place" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136560
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136561 in kde-guidance (main) "kde-guidance needs sipconfig python module" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136561
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136562 in tkpgp (multiverse) "kpgp shredder limted number of files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136562
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #136563 in kde-guidance (main) "kde-guidance displayconfig  kcontrol" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136563
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #136565 in glashctl (universe) "Please sync glashctl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136565
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #136567 in acroread (multiverse) "Acroread (acrobat reader) package from Gutsy Multiverse does not run" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136567
[02:24] <ubotu> New bug: #136568 in kdepim (main) "An error occurred while fetching the keys from the backend: General error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136568
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136571 in aptitude (main) "aptitude hastheannoying message that it does not have super cow powers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136571
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136578 in gdc-4.1 (universe) "Please sync gdc-4.1 0.24-4.1.2-16 from Debian unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136578
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136580 in sylpheed (universe) "Please sync sylpheed (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136580
[03:13] <ubotu> New bug: #136581 in f-spot (main) "f-spot crashes while browsing photos" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136581
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #136582 in ubuntu "No loading text or usplash when loading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136582
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136584 in human-icon-theme (main) "Disk metaphor for "save" icon is out-dated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136584
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136585 in ubuntu "X doesn't load at all when nvidia-glx-new is used" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136585
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #136586 in ubuntu "NewPackageFreeze exception: system-config-samba" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136586
[03:31] <nanley> anyone here?
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136587 in vlc (universe) "[Feisty]  vlc crashes on startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136587
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #136588 in quodlibet (universe) "Quodlibet can't find module formats.xiph" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136588
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136589 in bittorrent (main) "BitTorrent cannot download files simultaneously" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136589
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136590 in totem (main) "Totem could not play 'http://xos.adbureau.net/xtserver/site=6500/aamsz=ASX/video.asx'." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136590
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136591 in bittorrent (main) "BitTorrent cannot download files simultaneously" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136591
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #136592 in gnome-panel (main) "workspace switch "mouse click" switch does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136592
[03:56] <gnomefreak> crimsun: ive been looking for the script that we had to get info before filing a bug
[03:59] <IntuitiveNipple> gnomefreak: I've got an automated script for bug-hunting, was discussing it with bdmurray last night. You're welcome to use it if you want to. http://alexandros.tjworld.net/acc (do ./acc -h to see options,  but for a regular run do ./acc -k) -k will retain the collected files in the /tmp/dir
[04:00] <gnomefreak> IntuitiveNipple: ty if what i did doesnt work ill look at it
[04:02] <gnomefreak> looks like its fixed :)
[04:03] <gnomefreak> why do the setting keep getting reset with kernel updates :(
[04:03] <IntuitiveNipple> which settings?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> pc speaker settings in volume control
[04:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Not sure - as far as I'm aware they're stored in gconf in Gnome
[04:07] <gnomefreak> well if it happens next set of updates ill make sure to pinpoint what one and go from there
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #136594 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird segfaults when reading mail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136594
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #136595 in acpi-support (main) "fans always on, unlikely temperature in acpi thermal_zone #5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136595
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136596 in fetchmail (main) "[Merge]  fetchmail 6.3.8-8ubuntu1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136596
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136597 in gnome-voice-control (universe) "Impossible to activate voice recording in the applet under Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136597
[04:38] <ubotu> New bug: #136598 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xserver-xgl on gutsy doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136598
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #136599 in ubuntu "suspend to ram does not restore applications (gusty latest update)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136599
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136601 in alsa-utils (main) "alsa problems with nvidia ck804 driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136601
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #136600 in dpkg (main) "dpkg -e changes /tmp perms if extracting to /tmp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136600
[05:28] <ubotu> New bug: #136603 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[gutsy]  suspend light flashing on resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136603
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136604 in rhythmbox (main) "Autosuspend should be inhibited when music is streaming to others via DAAP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136604
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136606 in ubuntu "Installation  Gutsy Tribe,5,4,3, laptop-SAMSUNG R65" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136606
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136607 in ubuntu "Kubuntu System Menu Malformed URL for Storage Media" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136607
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136608 in totem (main) "[gusty Tribe5] Totem wrong subtitles synchronization" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136608
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136609 in zoph (universe) "[UVFe] [Sync request]  Sync zoph (<IP_ADDRESS>-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136609
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136611 in totem (main) "Totem and Exaile doesn't play mp3 after Gusty update 31 August" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136611
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #130404 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130404
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #136614 in gnome-games (main) "glChess has incorrect move time clock" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136614
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136616 in ketchup (universe) "Duplicated entries in man page" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136616
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136617 in update-manager (main) "Update manager accesses renamed org.gnome.PowerManager DBus service" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136617
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136618 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[gutsy]  since xserver-xgl upgrade, vertical line artifacts being left behind" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136618
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136619 in ubufox (main) "[gusty]  ubufox brings oldish extensions to FF" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136619
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136620 in ubuntu "boot could write in menu.lst which version of ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136620
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136621 in ubuntu "menu.lst is overwritten" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136621
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #136623 in mozilla-firefox (main) "[gusty tribe 5]  wrong text size in Firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136623
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #136624 in ia32-libs (universe) "(gutsy amd64) libxdamage not in ia32-libs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136624
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #136625 in gstreamer0.10 (main) "YUYV webcam not supported" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136625
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #136626 in mc (universe) "When the ftp session times out, mc reports: ftpfs: failed; nowhere to fallback to" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136626
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136627 in ubuntu "An USB Flash drive fails to mount after disconnect-reconnect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136627
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136628 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt does not include nvidia modules" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136628
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #136629 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Back and Next Buttons in Thunderbird Don't Work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136629
[07:47] <xtknight> Bug 136425
[07:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136425 in qt4-x11 "qtconfig-qt4 in Accessories?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136425
[07:48] <xtknight> !info qt4-x11 gutsy
[07:48] <ubotu> Package qt4-x11 does not exist in gutsy
[07:48] <xtknight> !info qtconfig-qt4 gutsy
[07:48] <ubotu> Package qtconfig-qt4 does not exist in gutsy
[07:49] <xtknight> !info qt4-qtconfig gutsy
[07:49] <ubotu> qt4-qtconfig: Qt 4 configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 89 kB, installed size 296 kB
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136630 in language-pack-cs (main) "Poloky hlavnho menu, plochy a jejich popisky" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136630
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136631 in mono (main) "Properties missing in WebRequest class" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136631
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136632 in lyx (universe) "lyx  1.5  extremely slow on Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136632
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #136633 in language-pack-cs (main) "Peklad nastaven vzhledu u GG 7.10 Tribe 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136633
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136634 in debmirror (universe) "Unable to download packages using Gutsy debmirror" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136634
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136635 in language-pack-cs (main) "Aplikace Pidat/Odstranit aplikace u GG 7.10 Tribe 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136635
[09:13] <nanley> hi everyone, right now i'm triaging migration-assistant and ubiquity bugs
[09:15] <nanley> discuss?
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136636 in compiz (main) "compiz-kde broken dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136636
[09:17] <nanley> anyone here?
[09:18] <ScottK> Sort of.
[09:18] <ScottK> Dive in and triage.  Ask questions if you have them.
[09:18] <nanley> alright I've got a question...
[09:18] <ScottK> Someone is usually around to answer.
[09:18] <ScottK> !ask
[09:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:19] <nanley> If ubiquity fails at the migration assistant, can i triage those bugs to migration assistant or should i leave them in ubiquity
[09:20] <ScottK> I'm not sure.   Maybe someone else will know.
[09:20] <nanley> Alright, i'm a noob to this..
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136637 in ubuntu "apparmor reinitializes caps late in boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136637
[09:25] <nanley> If ubiquity fails at the migration assistant, can i triage those bugs to migration assistant or should i leave them in ubiquity?
[09:30] <IntuitiveNipple> nanley: Maybe both until the underlying reason is determined?
[09:43] <crimsun> gnomefreak: it's mirrored on my LUG Web site (http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh)
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #136638 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "System monitor shows 2 cpu's" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136638
[09:47] <defendguin> i was looking for some assistance with bug #122979,
[09:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122979 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[aiglx] [intel] [r300]  Video playback is buggy under Compiz" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122979
[09:53] <defendguin> I have attached a backtrace if anyone is interested
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136639 in gnome-panel (main) "workspace switcher option for number of workspaces, not available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136639
[10:15] <defendguin> if i set my driver to i810 then Xv video playback works perfectly
[10:16] <defendguin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/122979    this bug hasn't been assigned to anyone as of yet.   who should it be assigned to?
[10:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122979 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[aiglx] [intel] [r300]  Video playback is buggy under Compiz" [High,Confirmed]
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136641 in mono "Mono: Exception attempting to join IPv6 multicast group" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136641
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136642 in ubuntu "system crash on logout dialog" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136642
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #136643 in mono "Mono: System.Net.Sockets.SocketOptionName 0xe is not supported at IPv6 level" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136643
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136646 in cupsys (main) "cups tries to write to system password files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136646
[10:44] <ubotu> New bug: #136647 in kde4base (universe) "kde4base-dev doesn't install on Ubuntu Feisty 64 bit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136647
[10:48] <ubotu> New bug: #136648 in compiz (main) "gnome appearance manager doesn't recognize enabled 3d acceleration" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136648
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #136649 in boost (main) ""Build-Depends: libboost-python-dev" not sufficient to build boost Python code" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136649
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #136650 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  nvidia driver 100.14.11 performances halved" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136650
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136651 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Ganeti" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136651
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #136652 in ubuntu "failed to start x-server after gg_t-5 install "failed to load nvidia"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136652
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136653 in emacs22 (main) "emacs22 does not install (upgrade) properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136653
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136654 in ubuntu "ftp transfering by KFTPGraber & kasablanca shutdown program, filezilla is closing the system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136654
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136655 in language-pack-cs (main) "Sprvce nesvobodnch ovlada GG 7.10 Tribe 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136655
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136656 in language-pack-cs (main) "Nstroje pro s GG 7.10 Tribe 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136656
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #136657 in gnome-keyring (main) "Support configuration by debconf in libpam-keyring" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136657
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #136660 in notification-daemon (main) "Patch to improve shaping and border rendering in uncomposited environment; add RGBA support for composited" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136660


[07:20] <Guest32928> Hi everyone! On my install of Kubuntu 17.10 with backport ppa the kde daemon keeps telling me that it wants to install the flash plugin for firefox. I do not want that. How do I disable it?
[07:20] <Guest32928> Thanks in advance!
[08:10] <Guest70463> Hi everyone! On my install of Kubuntu 17.10 with backport ppa the kde daemon keeps telling me that it wants to install the flash plugin for firefox. I do not want that. How do I disable it?
[08:26] <acheronuk> Guest70463: untick that: https://i.imgur.com/3LLaIqZ.png
[08:26] <acheronuk> I think
[08:28] <Guest70463> Thanks, I'll try!
[08:58] <Guest70463> acheronuk: but that actually only disables the notification, right. I would rather like to tell the daemon that it's OK to not have the flash plugin.
[09:01] <acheronuk> The code is not as fine grained as that. I made a change for 18.04 so that it just doesn't bug people about full stop, as flash will die soon. Not backported the change yet.
[09:01] <acheronuk> *bug people about flash
[11:06] <anarcho> Hi all! Can anyone help with getting bluetooth working in Kubuntu 17.10 running in virtbox? Thanks!
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:03] <Guest79071> hello ?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Hi Guest79071
[14:04] <Guest79071> hi there
[14:05] <Guest79071> I'm new to IRC
[14:05] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:05] <Guest79071> how can I change my username ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !nick
[14:06] <BluesKaj> !register
[14:06] <DoctorPainless> thx BluesKaj !
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Guest81862, best to choose a unique nick then register it
[14:07] <DoctorPainless> is the nick registered per channel ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> yes, it's sregiste to all chats on the freenoce servers'
[14:07] <oerheks> no, per irc network
[14:07] <BluesKaj> registered
[14:08] <DoctorPainless> so, I have to register a nick for freenode
[14:08] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:08] <DoctorPainless> okay
[14:12] <DoctorPainless> I tried something like this, but got an error:  'slash'msg freenode register mypass<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:12] <DoctorPainless> it says freenode: chanel doesn't exist
[14:12] <DoctorPainless> :-s
[14:13] <Unit193> You'll want /msg nickserv
[14:14] <DoctorPainless> thx !! worked
[14:14] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[14:14] <DoctorPainless> Dumb of me :-)
[14:18] <DoctorPainless> If I do a WhoIs on my name, I can see where I'm connecting form, if I do the same for others I see some have 'secured connection'. How can I do this too ?
[14:19] <Unit193> DoctorPainless: 'using a secure connection' means connecting over SSL.
[14:24] <DoctorPainless> how do I connect over SSL ? Is that just for IRC and should I do that in my IRC client ?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> in the client
[14:24] <Tm_T> client-side yes, but server has to support it too
[14:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, some servers will error out on the connect
[14:26] <Unit193> Needs port 6697.
[14:27] <Tm_T> or some other, depends on the server
[14:27] <Tm_T> but typically it's that port, yes
[14:32] <DoctorPainless> Mmm.... I'm using Konversation (standard with Kubuntu 4.13)
[14:36] <BluesKaj> konversation is easy to setup the options
[14:39] <BluesKaj> cuse the awkward wording
[14:48] <DoctorPainless> .
[15:39] <ilya> hi all
[19:26] <viewer|28789> i am getting mad about getting in to the forum .... i have forgotten my username but there is no button that i can find to get an email with my username
[19:27] <viewer|28789> when i push the set new password it asks me to type my username wich i dont have :)
[19:29] <viewer|28789> i just want to go in and ask in a thread if anyone have got an equalizer yet as an plasma 5 widget .... this is something that feels like a thing that should exist ....
[19:32] <Dragnslcr> viewer|28789- try searching your email for "kubuntuforums.net"
[19:33] <Dragnslcr> You should either have a welcome email that includes your username, or some notifications about topics that you've posted in
[19:35] <viewer|28789> i have done that .... but i suppose that i have deleted all my emails that contains logins
[19:36] <viewer|28789> some time i get paronoid and does that :)
[19:39] <Dragnslcr> viewer|28789- I just checked, and the password reset page only asks for your email address
[19:41] <viewer|28789> can you post a link ?
[19:42] <viewer|28789> i might try in the wrong place .... now i found a totaly diffrent site
[19:42] <Dragnslcr> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum.php
[19:46] <viewer|28789> yeah this is not the same as i came to from the kubuntu.org
[19:46] <viewer|28789> https://forum.kde.org/ucp.php?mode=login
[19:47] <viewer|28789> that was totaly diffrent
[19:47] <viewer|28789> thank you
[19:48] <viewer|28789> and now i can se the email form there to :D ... ok no worris
[19:48] <viewer|28789> i might be a bit tired to :D
[19:48] <viewer|28789> ciao
[19:48] <viewer|28789> :exit
[19:48] <viewer|28789> .


[00:01]  * ahoneybun puts a note down about fixing the Driver Manager for ZZ and backport to XX
[00:01] <ahoneybun> not I though
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[00:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #670: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/670/
[00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_progenitor build #651: FIXED in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_progenitor/651/
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[01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kscreen build #124: FIXED in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kscreen/124/
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[02:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: report a bug?
[02:12] <tsimonq2> whoops
[02:12] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: report a bug?
[02:12] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: that way we have a place to track it
[02:12] <ahoneybun> it's been known
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[02:15] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: link to bug?
[02:16]  * ahoneybun walks out
[02:25] <tsimonq2> simple question...
[02:26] <ahoneybun> I don't have one
[02:26] <ahoneybun> and you know I don't
[02:30] <tsimonq2> no I don't!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!
 it's been known
[02:30] <tsimonq2> that makes me assume it's reported somewhere ^
[02:31] <ahoneybun> well acheronuk knows a command to fix it on a installed machine
[02:31] <ahoneybun> but I think shadeslayer wrote the program
[02:32] <valorie> he did
[02:32] <valorie> it would be good for someone to step up and become the maintainer
[02:36] <tsimonq2> of what?
[02:37] <valorie> Driver Manager
[02:37] <ahoneybun> I don't know one thing about it other then it being broken for 2 releases I think
[02:38] <ahoneybun> lovely someone forked my script
[02:38] <valorie> that's about right
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[03:30] <tsimonq2> night o/
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[06:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[06:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kscreen build #186: FIXED in 55 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kscreen/186/
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[07:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[07:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kontactinterface build #188: FIXED in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kontactinterface/188/
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 @sgclark, If I recall, 5.7.2 went into the archive ok with the same oranges
 I can double check that
 @sgclark, Ok. Thank you immensely for what you can do :)
 @tsimonq2, there were one or 2 about xapian and dbus messing up the driver manager info collection. was *meant* to be fixed in YY!
[07:24] <acheronuk> bug: #1282087
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[07:25] <acheronuk> bug: #1579834
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[07:40] <acheronuk> mamarley: can you comment on the FFe for frameworks if you have a sec? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1625392
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[07:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[07:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kwalletmanager build #179: FIXED in 39 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kwalletmanager/179/
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[08:00] <clivejo> acheronuk: so I have upgraded to the FW and Plasma in staging, looks good
[08:01] <acheronuk> clivejo: great :)
[08:01] <clivejo> have you guys a outstanding issues list?
[08:02] <acheronuk> I'm just going through the oranges in plasma and comparing those against the build logs from the 5.7.2 archive ones. Mostly is the same lintian warnings so far
[08:03] <acheronuk> I take it you mean a more general list?
[08:06] <clivejo> just what needs attention
[08:06] <clivejo> I been out of the loop
[08:08] <acheronuk> I shall have a ponder and put everything I know of on the ninja pad in a bit, if Simon hasn't already
[08:08] <clivejo> ok, Ill go get some breakie
[08:08] <clivejo> spend some time with the pup
[08:10] <acheronuk> For ref for any dev: Plasma 5.7.5 status vs the 5.7.2 archive builds that went through QA: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23206052/
[08:11] <clivejo> I updated the firmware on my Ubiquiti wireless bridge and things seem to be a bit more stable
[08:12]  * clivejo really wishes we could get kdevelop packages into YY
[08:12] <jimarvan> hey clivejo
[08:12] <clivejo> hi Jim
[08:12] <jimarvan> thanks acheronuk I will have a look after work :)
[08:12] <jimarvan> and goodmorning
[08:12] <clivejo> good morning to you too
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[08:13]  * clivejo has chainsaw prepped and ready for some hacking
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[08:14] <jimarvan> :)
[08:18] <acheronuk> santa_: LP finally cleared up staging apps: 19.9 GiB (79.67%) of 25.0 GiB
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[08:58] <acheronuk> bug: #1600047
[09:03] <acheronuk> clivejo: See YY state of play section on Ninja pad. bet there is stuff I've forgotten, but hey....
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[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kcalcore build #176: FIXED in 1 hr 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kcalcore/176/
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[09:35] <acheronuk> santa_: uploaded those apps from git just a sec ago
[09:37] <santa_> acheronuk: I was going to. which ones have you uploaded?
[09:38] <acheronuk> all that needed to according to the status page and update in the packaging git
[09:39] <acheronuk> sorry, for some reason although I pinged you, I didn't think you were going to be around this morning
[09:43] <acheronuk> santa_: didn't mean to step on toes
[09:43] <santa_> no prob
[09:46] <acheronuk> there is a "Yakkety Yak state of play;" section on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas please add to or amend if I have missed anything
[09:48] <acheronuk> santa_: everything built I think. just need to wait for publishing, then status page
[10:02] <acheronuk> No red, and much more green :D http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html
[10:03] <acheronuk> santa_: merges from debian still to do?
[10:07] <acheronuk> that is just kdepim-addons and libkf5grantleetheme if I am not mistaken
[10:09] <mamarley> acheronuk: Done. :)
[10:09] <acheronuk> mamarley: thank you :)
[10:20] <santa_> acheronuk: yes, please don't mess with them I will fix them in a few mins
[10:21] <acheronuk> santa_: no, I wasn't planning to on those
[10:21] <acheronuk> just keeping track for clive/simon etc
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 Firefox 49 released :)
 o/
 @acheronuk, +1
 @marcinsagol, I'm waiting for 50 beta 1, to fix the GTK probs in Yakkety
 @acheronuk, Nope
 I'm using Vivaldi for some time already, FF as a backup
 We probably won't get apps in
 Unless a Kubuntu Developer pops in
 Even then...
 @marcinsagol, I have that, but still use FF. developer at the moment, to bypass those GTK bugs I mentioned
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 @tsimonq2, we can only try...
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 @acheronuk, FFe can still be approved during beta freeze and after. just not actually uploaded during
[10:55] <mparillo> Last weekend, I reported that the three YY -staging PPAs made the top of my Libre Office Writer ugly on my hope laptop. Yesterday, I could not duplicate that in a VM running on my office laptop. I believe the ugliness has nothing at all to do with the -staging PPAs because I tried this morning with today's YY ISO, and the ugliness is there. I wonder if something changed in the display drivers from XX to YY.
 @mparillo, have you a screenshot?
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[11:00] <mparillo> I can take one. Let me boot into my YY partition. But for me, I think we are ruling out a kubuntu packaging error. And I could always go to Kalligra writer if they ever allow me to save as a .doc
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:03] <tsimonq2> o/ BluesKaj
[11:03] <BluesKaj> hi tsimonq2
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[11:04] <santa_> acheronuk: probaby this must be reverted and the orange overriden in the status page
[11:04] <tsimonq2> santa_: I don't think we can do that
[11:04] <tsimonq2> santa_: you would have to override the orange itself
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[11:05] <santa_> because kde-baseapps is based on old kdelibs, not frameworks
[11:05] <acheronuk> santa_: 'this'?
[11:05] <santa_> acheronuk: https://paste.kde.org/puutbek99
[11:06] <acheronuk> santa_: right
[11:08] <acheronuk> santa_: so added to lintian-ignore.json ?
[11:09] <acheronuk> ummm. oh. cmake
[11:09] <santa_> yes
[11:11] <acheronuk> I can see why now (some time since I did that), so ok to go with it? once tested of course
[11:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok%40group.calendar.google.com
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[11:14] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: yes? for what precisely?
[11:14] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: patch pilot
[11:14] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: if it comes to it, you could ask someone on today's Patch Pilot
[11:15] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I know what is is now. just not sure which issue you are pushing that forward for?
[11:15] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: oh, just general release team bothering
[11:15] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I'm saying it's there if you find *nobody* to upload
[11:15] <mparillo> Ugly Libre Office on YY: http://imgur.com/a/xluVQ Note I have tried changing themes.
[11:16] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: and that's not all release team BTW
[11:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:16] <tsimonq2> ^
[11:16] <tsimonq2> I did that
[11:16] <tsimonq2> anyways
[11:16] <tsimonq2> be back in a bit, I gotta get ready for school
[11:16] <mparillo> BTW, I had to install kde-spectacle.
[11:17] <acheronuk> mparillo: Eek! and the eek! again. didn't get that in a VM
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hmm, Xenial is supposedly stable, but konversation just crashed
[11:19] <mparillo> acheronuk: Exactly. So it works in a VM, it works on XX, so I wonder if some kind of driver changed for YY, or is the version of Libre Office (or its configs) changed for YY in such a way that it does not play nicely with KDE.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> and the crash notifier crashed too :-)
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[11:20] <mparillo> For example, some apps try too hard to reach down the display stack.
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[11:20] <acheronuk> mparillo: I would guess either driver/card issue, or a bug in the libreoffice KDE/QT VCL
[11:21] <acheronuk> or both
[11:22] <mparillo> I suspect it is an updated driver for YY. I have noticed flickering on YY that I never saw on XX.
[11:23] <acheronuk> what driver is this?
[11:23] <mparillo> Some kind of video driver.
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[11:24] <acheronuk> I mean intel, nvidia, nouveau, whatever....?
[11:24] <mparillo> How can I tell?
[11:27] <acheronuk> glxinfo | grep -i vendor
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[11:29] <mparillo> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI     Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086)
[11:29] <acheronuk> hello pitti
[11:30] <acheronuk> mparillo: so you have intel graphics. debian and now ubuntu want to dump the drivers for that and fall back to modesetting
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[11:31] <acheronuk> so intel driver bug, or a libreoffice VCL one I would guess
[11:33] <mparillo> If you had to guess, is that a Ubuntu bug (Launchpad)?
[11:36] <acheronuk> if I *had* to guess I would say upstream, but it would only be a low probability guess. 60:40 or something
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1625392/comments/5
 YAY! :D
[11:40] <acheronuk> thank you pitti :)
[11:41] <pitti> acheronuk: well, I didn't do anythign really -- just pointed out the obvious :)
[11:41] <jimarvan> :)
 But he approved it
 So he did something ;)
[11:42] <acheronuk> pitti: yes, and we would have avoided needing even that if we hadn't end up a bit stuck with a lack of devs who have the time
 Again, now we just need uploaders
[11:43] <acheronuk> pitti: ideally we would like an FFe for new KDE applications as well, as they are a year old, but I guess that could be a step too far
 Well that's a lot of packages
[11:45] <acheronuk> indeed
 Around 200 afair
[11:46] <santa_> 206
 sgclark: we're free to upload Frameworks. Could you please do that?
[11:47] <acheronuk> bug: #1600047
[11:48] <acheronuk> needs sorting if no apps FFe ^^^
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[11:49] <acheronuk> but it is going to look BAD if we are stuck on ancient applications!
 I agree
 pitti: what's your opinion? Could we upload that as well? Or would you rather just bugs like acheronuk listed?
[11:52] <mparillo> acheronuk: Thank you for your help. If https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1625595 has to go upstream, I hope somebody on Launchpad can guess where better than I could.
[11:53] <acheronuk> mparillo: great. if it is upstream, someone will surely push it in that direction
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[11:56] <santa_> sgclark: as simon said the ffe for frameworks was approved. please ping me _before_ doing that. thanks in advance :)
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[11:56] <santa_> that = uploading frameworks 5.26
[12:00] <acheronuk> so I guess we need to submit a FFe for the apps and hope and pray?
[12:01] <acheronuk> .
[12:01] <acheronuk> whoops
[12:02] <santa_> yes
[12:02] <acheronuk> santa_: reverted that change on kde-baseapps and pushed/uploaded
 I think so
[12:02] <santa_> ok
 I was hoping pitti could give his opinion, as it's a major FFe really close to release
[12:02] <acheronuk> santa_: can you double check I didn't mess up cmake-ignore.json
[12:04] <santa_> hmmm
[12:04] <acheronuk> if would be good if pitti could give some thoughts. I'm a bit at sea with this
 Me too
 Like you said, it's old software that should really get an update
 But it's close to release :/
[12:06] <santa_> acheronuk: fixed missing comma in that json
[12:06] <santa_> about apps we should really get 16.04.3
[12:06] <santa_> shame we don't have upload permissions
[12:06] <acheronuk> apps would have gone in a fair bit before feature freeze, if not for dev availability probs I think
[12:07] <acheronuk> santa_: thanks. was so concerned about getting format right, that I missed the comma!
 I agree fully
[12:08] <acheronuk> we had in 95% done, then it just sat there for eons
[12:10]  * acheronuk dares not contemplate the slideshow
[12:12] <mamarley> I have also been using those staged apps for quite a while without any problems.
[12:13] <acheronuk> I have since they were 1st staged!
 So they're good to upload, no major problems
[12:15] <acheronuk> 1st on backports, and then on yakkety. so <IP_ADDRESS> since July.
 Let's say I work with Debian to get all the latest of everything in testing. I assume it will sync as soon as Z is open for development?
[12:18] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: not sure if those auto-sync or if someone has to prod them if they are wanted
 Well let's make sure to do that as soon as Z is open for development
 Like ASAP
 No more of this bs
 Z will be an exciting cycle for Lubuntu, so my time will be divided, but still
 Kubuntu 17.04 would ship with Plasma 5.8.6
 Fun stuff
 Well I'm off, turning off phone as it didn't charge overnight
 o/
[12:22] <acheronuk> I shall wait to see if pitti can comment, but if not I think put in the apps FFe this evening (my time) anyway?
[12:24] <acheronuk> clivejo: if you should pop in, have you an opinion on that ^^^
[12:25] <acheronuk> or anyone for that matter....
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[12:27] <acheronuk> BBL
[12:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:29] <pitti> acheronuk: /away -all
[12:29] <pitti> updating leaf applications is usually a lot less risky than central libraries, they can be tested a lot easier and comprehensively
[12:29] <pitti> acheronuk: sorry, that formatting came out a bit wrong :)
[12:30] <acheronuk> ok. not quite gone yet anyway :P
[12:33] <acheronuk> pitti: so there is a chance. sgclarke said we would need a kubuntu dev to review and claim responsibility, and she was likely too busy. are you saying that is not as much as blocker as that, or just not such a big deal for the release team to OK should someone do that for us?
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[12:34] <pitti> acheronuk: I consider the Kubuntu team self-sustaining in deciding which packages they want to update when; it makes little sense to interfere there as nobody else on the release team has much clue about it
[12:36] <acheronuk> pitti: so it still comes down to finding a kubuntu dev to vouch for them. something we are struggling very much with :/
[12:37] <acheronuk> I guess can put the FFe in anyway?
[12:38] <acheronuk> pitti: I'm pretty brand new to this aspect, so sorry for all the what may be obvious questions
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[13:06] <jimarvan> pitti: problem is that after summer it has been a bit frenitic with our jobs... :/
[13:06] <jimarvan> myself I want to work on the installer so I can fix the demonstration rolling during installation but with the WAKO welsh championships and with work...
[13:06] <jimarvan> it has become so difficult
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[14:01] <jimarvan> hmm I seem to have problems again with the wallet system :(
[14:02] <jimarvan> it keeps asking me the password for kwallet every time I login now, anyone else has the same issue?
[14:04] <yofel> sounds like something going wrong with pam_kwallet5 and sddm
[14:06] <marco-parillo> jimarvan: I have had that from time to time. It seems to resolve itself eventually, and I was never able to figure out why. I tend to suspect wireless networking, but I could never really isolate it. In any case, I have not had it lately on YY plus -staging or XX plus -backports
[14:07] <jimarvan> hmm
[14:07] <jimarvan> yofel: absolutely right on that one :/
[14:07] <jimarvan> marco-parillo: same exact thing
[14:08] <jimarvan> I think the whole issue started since I disconnected the wired networking and started using wi-fi
[14:08] <jimarvan> now I am using wired again, but still I kept been asked the kwallet pass :/
[14:08] <jimarvan> I am with backports
[14:08] <jimarvan> on xx
[14:10] <jimarvan> I tried to change the kwallet to a custom made one, did not help much
[14:10] <blaze> jimarvan: it's because akonadi is asking a password when accessing resources i.e. on login
[14:10] <jimarvan> blaze: is it possible to get it back to automatic login?
[14:11] <blaze> jimarvan: leave kwallet's master-password blank
[14:11] <blaze> that's the only way I know
[14:12] <jimarvan> oooooh .... :O
[14:12] <jimarvan> :(
[14:12] <jimarvan> that's not very nice
[14:12] <jimarvan> :D
[14:12] <blaze> :)
[14:12] <jimarvan> haha
[14:12] <jimarvan> hmm but is it blank on install too?
[14:12] <jimarvan> when you fresh install?
[14:13] <blaze> yes, I think so
[14:13] <jimarvan> oh well... I will give it a try... I think there must be an effort there, to link the kubuntu user account login to the kwallet...
[14:15] <blaze> jimarvan: another possible solution is to use gpg-encrypted wallet and then mess a bit with gpg-agent
[14:15] <jimarvan> I did that
[14:15] <jimarvan> did not work :/
[14:16] <acheronuk> o/ yofel
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[14:27] <jimarvan> and rebooting to see if the blank password works (which it should... ;) )
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[15:39] <jimarvan> brb
[15:43] <jimarvan> yeap using a blank password in kwallet worked
[15:43] <jimarvan> oh well
[15:44] <jimarvan> see ya later guys :) thanks for the advice!!!
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 +1 acheronuk, I really don't know much about Kubuntu's release cadence besides the standard Ubuntu policies
 Thank you for your time pitti
 (passing time, using my phone, o/)
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[17:36] <acheronuk> santa_: anything in apps left to fix?
[17:37] <santa_> acheronuk: nothing 100% required
[17:37] <santa_> the important stuff seems already done
[17:38] <acheronuk> santa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23208034/
[17:38] <acheronuk> maybe....?
[17:41] <santa_> I think the previous ffe's were done against meta-kde, but I guess it's fine
[17:41] <santa_> I don't have much experience with ffe's, but it seems fine
[17:42] <acheronuk> the meta one was against the whole KDE suite, so I guess makes sense for that
[17:43] <acheronuk> this is against one component, and clive said he thought to just pick one important part of it (such as KDEpim) and file against that.
[17:50] <santa_> I'm fixing something in libksane
[17:52] <acheronuk> santa_: no prob. I would like to get clivejo opinion if possible anyway if he's should be about soon
[18:18] <acheronuk> bug: #1625756
[18:48] <acheronuk> beta freeze is imminent. release team had not added, as they apparently usually do, that actual freeze is 1 or 2 days ahead of the date in the release schedule
[18:49] <valorie> !
[18:49] <valorie> that would not be cool!
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:25] <infinity> wxl: RCs and freezing and such will happen soonish.  We've been trying to squeeze a kernel in under the wire.
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:25] <wxl> infinity: works for me. thx!
[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:25] <infinity> apw: ^ what's the status on that?
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[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:36] <acheronuk> so in reality actual beta freeze is in advance of the date here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
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[18:50] <acheronuk> [19:41] <infinity> acheronuk: The freeze obviously has to happen before the release, the schedule just seems to be missing the usual (Mon) or (Tue) to indicate that the freeze isn't on Thursday.  Oops.
[18:51] <valorie> gah
[18:52] <acheronuk> I guess the devs we lack would no that without having to be told :(
[18:52] <acheronuk> *would know
[18:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_messagelib build #90: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_messagelib/90/
[18:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons build #48: FAILURE in 51 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons/48/
[18:55] <valorie> we lack *right now* -- we will have them soon
[18:55] <valorie> just not soon enough for the beta freeze
[18:55]  * valorie remains hopeful
[18:57] <acheronuk> valorie: to be realistic, even if all the stuff we want was uploaded in the next 10 mins, there is no guarantee it would make it out of 'proposed' in time for the betas to be spun
[18:58] <valorie> yes
[18:58] <valorie> sgclark wisely chose to focus on the libraries
[18:58] <valorie> plasma I hope we can get in after the freeze
[18:58] <acheronuk> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze
[18:58] <acheronuk> "Once the BetaRelease is shipped, we roll back to FeatureFreeze and UserInterfaceFreeze status. "
[18:58] <valorie> and perhaps the apps too, or at least all those that build and run
[18:58] <acheronuk> indeed
[18:59] <valorie> ok, as much as I do not want to restart, I think I have to
[19:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons build #49: STILL FAILING in 40 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons/49/
[19:03] <valorie> funky man, I'm upgrading 427 packages
[19:06] <acheronuk> if people using apps can comment on bug #1625756 that would be great. for if, or preferably when, we do get someone with superpowers to review them
[19:11] <valorie> thanks for doing the paperwork, acheronuk
[19:12] <acheronuk> I figured if it's in, it can get amended if needed. If it doesn't go in, chances of it happening go from low(ish) to zero
[19:27] <santa_> acheronuk: I'm going to try to fix something in discover
[19:27] <santa_> (I'm testing the dist-upgrades from xenial)
[20:41] <tsimonq2> hello
[20:41] <tsimonq2> one nice walk home and clean shave later, I'm here! :D
[20:42] <clivejo> hi Simon
[20:50] <tsimonq2> we have someone uploading All The Things yet?
[20:50] <clivejo> no idea
[20:51] <valorie> not that I've seen
[20:51] <valorie> have yet to hear from Mirv or Phil
[20:51] <acheronuk> evening
[20:52] <clivejo> valorie: did you get my PM?
[20:53] <valorie> I did, and replied
[20:53]  * clivejo rolls eyes
[20:53] <valorie> although my connection was a bit dodgy and so I restarted
[20:54] <valorie> yes, I'll hold your hand, you romantic Irishman!
[20:54] <valorie> lol
[20:54] <clivejo> my bnc has been playing up too
[20:54] <clivejo> is there something wrong with it?
[20:55] <acheronuk> not so far today
[20:57] <valorie> it wasn't the bnc -- I was connected here, but not to linuxchix or rootsweb
[20:57] <valorie> and some webpages wouldn't load
[20:57] <valorie> not clear what the issue was, but it had been weeks since last restart
[20:58]  * acheronuk glances at him uptime
[20:58] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-GT60-2PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.7.2 on Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) powered by Linux 4.4.0-9134-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3410-3622/3800 MHz, RAM: 18199/24030 MB, Storage: 325/967 GB, 323 procs, 1.96h up
[20:58] <valorie> so short....
[21:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #126: STILL FAILING in 8 min 58 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime/126/
[21:03] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo: I haz idea. https://etherpad.net/p/nLzpiHIArT
[21:04] <valorie> be aware though, we still have to have someone upload the stuff
[21:04] <valorie> unsure if any of the release team would have time for *that*
[21:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #182: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime/182/
[21:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #127: STILL FAILING in 8 min 57 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime/127/
[21:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #183: STILL FAILING in 9 min 23 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime/183/
[21:19] <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk: could you read it over and make any corrections? https://etherpad.net/p/nLzpiHIArT
[21:19] <tsimonq2> then sign at the bottom?
[21:21] <clivejo> is Apps 16.04.3 ready?
[21:21] <tsimonq2> clivejo: everything is staged, so yes
[21:21] <tsimonq2> and people have been testing for weeks now....
[21:22] <clivejo> oh, ignore me
[21:22] <clivejo> dyslexic moment
[21:23] <tsimonq2> I have to go, be back in like 10 mins
[21:23] <tsimonq2> but please look it over
[21:33] <tsimonq2> back
[21:34] <tsimonq2> hmmm
[21:38] <acheronuk> will in a bit
[21:38] <valorie> that sounds well-written, simon
[21:38] <tsimonq2> cool acheronuk
[21:39] <tsimonq2> thanks valorie :)
[21:48] <clivejo> tsimonq2: what are you expecting from this?
[21:48] <tsimonq2> clivejo: release team gives a thumbs up, someone from the community uploads
[21:49] <tsimonq2> (or on the release team, whoever wants to upload)
[21:49] <clivejo> I guess its worth a try :/
[21:49] <tsimonq2> I know
[21:49] <clivejo> wont be holding my breath
[21:50] <tsimonq2> me neither
[21:51] <tsimonq2> clivejo: jot your name and IRC nick at the bottom when you think it's good to go
[21:51] <clivejo> I dont think it will make any difference whos names on there
[21:51] <tsimonq2> I do
[21:52] <tsimonq2> people have seen you around, at the very least on this channel
[21:52] <clivejo> the amount of packages we need uploaded is just too many and noone will take that on :(
[21:52] <valorie> I do too
[21:52] <valorie> I will sign
[21:52] <valorie> the more of us stand behind the request, IMO the better
[21:52] <tsimonq2> valorie: it's sort of, "we're asking for help and we agree to pick up errors"
[21:52] <tsimonq2> so I think a response just saying +1 would be good
[21:52] <tsimonq2> (just my opinion, and the way I worded it)
[21:53] <clivejo> have we a list of people who have tested these new packages?
[21:54] <clivejo> Ive updated my machine to whats in staging frameworks and plasma
[21:54] <clivejo> and so far no issues
[21:55] <tsimonq2> clivejo: not specifically, but I know acheronuk and mamarley and others have been
[21:55] <tsimonq2> me too, although I primarily use LXQt
[22:01] <acheronuk> valorie: your blog post got nothing moving?
[22:01] <tsimonq2> nope, I don't think so
[22:02] <valorie> I asked people to show up here
[22:02] <valorie> they have not, so far
[22:02] <acheronuk> :(
[22:03] <tsimonq2> there's a user named bipul, nice guy, hangs out in ##tsimonq2, he wanted to get started with Ubuntu Development a few months ago
[22:03] <tsimonq2> pinged him earlier and asked him to hop on here
[22:03] <tsimonq2> I think some of valorie's wizard power is rubbing off on me ;)
[22:04] <valorie> nice
[22:04] <valorie> he can't upload though
[22:04] <valorie> lol
[22:04] <tsimonq2> I know
 but more development help! :D
[22:05] <acheronuk> signed, but I'm not hopeful on that
[22:06] <valorie> it's an attempt
[22:07] <tsimonq2> exactly my thought
[22:07] <tsimonq2> it's something
[22:07] <tsimonq2> valorie: should I send now or should I wait?
[22:08] <valorie> would be nice to have phil sign it
[22:09] <valorie> and scarlett
[22:09] <valorie> yofel: sgclark ^^^
[22:09] <valorie>  https://etherpad.net/p/nLzpiHIArT
[22:11] <tsimonq2> should be done ASAP though
[22:11] <valorie> give it an hour
[22:12] <acheronuk> santa_: get anywhere with discover?
[22:12] <tsimonq2> ok valorie
[22:14] <clivejo> acheronuk: whats he doing to discover?
[22:14] <acheronuk> what is 7pm (West) for core meeting? is that same as BST (UDT+1)?
[22:15] <acheronuk> clivejo: Looking dist upgrades from Xenial, so I guess there is still the issue of discover-common being help back on upgrade?
 Thats fixed in git and staging
[22:17] <acheronuk> santa_: Great :)
[22:18] <valorie> santa_: I'm a bit behind -- have you set a date for your meeting yet?
[22:18] <acheronuk> UTC I meant earlier
 We got the doodle with data from 4 persons
 I would pick the monday 25
 What do you think?
[22:19] <valorie> ok, I'll send a response asking for more people to respond
[22:19] <valorie> sounds good to me
[22:19] <tsimonq2> Doodle? :O
[22:19] <valorie> for his membership meeting
[22:20] <tsimonq2> I know I can't really vote but at least I might be able to attend ;)
[22:20] <valorie> we need to get that done
[22:20] <acheronuk> or lurk
[22:20] <valorie> lurkers welcome
[22:20] <valorie> recommendations on wiki pages welcome
[22:20] <valorie> etc
[22:20] <valorie> we run in the open here
[22:22] <acheronuk> Not necessarily right now, but I need some council members to take a look at my wiki page and give an honest opinion on when they think I can fairly say my 6 months runs to for that.
[22:22] <valorie> I think you worked most closely with clivejo, so I would trust him on that
[22:22] <tsimonq2> could I get a link?
[22:23] <tsimonq2> (to the Doodle)
[22:23] <valorie>     I think he just sent it to council members
[22:23] <acheronuk> http://doodle.com/poll/iu9e6xnfgubt9fqq
[22:24] <acheronuk> I think
[22:24] <valorie> but we'll announce the date in advance
[22:24] <valorie> everybody is welcome to meetings, and they are usually in here
[22:24]  * acheronuk forgets clivejo is now council!
[22:25]  * clivejo forgets too!
[22:25] <valorie> well, even if he wasn't
[22:25] <clivejo> and I cant find the doodle invite
[22:26] <valorie> acheronuk's link is good
[22:27] <tsimonq2> You need an invitation in order to participate in this poll.
[22:27] <tsimonq2> Please contact José Manuel Santamaría Lema if you wish to participate.
[22:27] <tsimonq2> Show all 130 options
[22:27] <valorie> 130 options was a bit much
[22:27] <valorie> but if we can narrow it down, it's ok
[22:27] <clivejo> oh shoot
[22:27] <acheronuk> santa replied to me on telegram a few mins ago, so asking via that if he has the link
[22:28] <clivejo> thats already past
[22:28] <clivejo> I found the link
[22:28] <tsimonq2> where clivejo?
[22:28] <clivejo> just being stupid and saying I can attend a date in the past
[22:28] <acheronuk> doodle time travel!
[22:29] <clivejo> grrr
[22:29] <clivejo> why does it keep expanding
[22:32] <clivejo> I _think_ I have said Im free on Thursday or Sun
[22:32] <valorie> there is an art to setting up a doodle poll
[22:33] <valorie> and I'll tell you, it does not work with family AT ALL
[22:33] <valorie> only geeks get it
[22:33] <valorie> and even we struggle with it
[22:33]  * clivejo is not a geek
[22:34] <clivejo> who are the 8 intendees?
[22:34] <tsimonq2> except I'm not a geek, I live and breath computers, I'm always responsive on IRC
[22:34]  * acheronuk think clivejo is in denial
[22:35] <tsimonq2> I'm _always_ here :P
[22:35] <valorie> for sure
[22:35] <clivejo> mmmm
[22:35] <valorie> I can attest to that
[22:35] <clivejo> no git trigger for plasma-discover
[22:36] <clivejo> I thought Simon lived here
[22:37] <clivejo> any ninja want to setup a trigger for plasma-discover?
[22:37] <santa_> tsimonq2: I have edited a bit the first paragraph
[22:37] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-discover/+webhooks
[22:38] <santa_> tsimonq2: because the way it was written it seems we don't have developers, but we do! I never worked with so many people in other linux distributions
[22:38] <tsimonq2> santa_: ok
[22:39] <valorie> well, we lack Kubuntu Developers now
[22:39] <valorie> but devels, yes, we have lots!
[22:39] <santa_> with title
[22:39] <valorie> yup
[22:39] <tsimonq2> clivejo: what do I have to do?
[22:39]  * valorie hopes we start expanding that soon
[22:39] <tsimonq2> clivejo: what webhook?
[22:39] <acheronuk> clivejo: copied another webhook, so guess it is right now
[22:39] <santa_> yes, I wanted to outline that, to not give the false impressions that kubuntu is understaffed
[22:40] <clivejo> make sure its poking the right project
[22:40] <tsimonq2> valorie: in 2 years I betcha santa_ acheronuk clivejo and me will either be Kubuntu Developers, or Real Life will happen
[22:40] <santa_> lets hope
[22:40] <santa_> regarding the doodle poll I should have made it public, I take note for the furture
[22:40] <santa_> I will try to send you and invitation Simon
[22:40] <santa_> * an
[22:40] <valorie> 2 years!
[22:41] <santa_> I hope in less time we will get there
[22:41] <tsimonq2> santa_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:41] <clivejo> cant think 2 weeks ahead, never mind two years!
[22:41] <valorie> I'm hoping for weeks for clivejo and santa
[22:41] <valorie> maybe months
[22:41] <valorie> acheronuk right behind, and you right behind that
[22:41] <tsimonq2> if I continue to live here, that might be me too :P
[22:42]  * clivejo wonders if temp upload permissions can be granted
[22:42] <tsimonq2> ^
[22:42] <tsimonq2> yeah
[22:43] <santa_> tsimonq2: check your mail, got the invitation?
[22:43] <valorie> that I do not know
[22:43] <tsimonq2> santa_: yes siree
[22:43] <santa_> I have to create that one for symbols, but I have been busy
[22:45] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Developers <--- the bible
[22:46]  * tsimonq2 bows down
[22:46] <tsimonq2> MY LORD, WHAT AREE YOU DOING HERE???
[22:47] <tsimonq2> valorie: I want to send, they will freeze soon
[22:47] <valorie> I did not realize fabo was a KD
[22:47] <valorie> ok, send
[22:47] <tsimonq2> alright
[22:47] <clivejo> so impatient!
[22:48] <tsimonq2> well I live here, while y'all have lives I'm just waiting :PPPP
[22:48] <acheronuk> Scarlett's dev meeting. Only one I have tracked down so far https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/06/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[22:50] <valorie> acheronuk: if you look at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/+members#active you can see the day they became members, and look at the logs for that day
[22:50] <valorie> rather laborious though
[22:51] <valorie> if you find links like you did above, please send them to the list so the other proposed devels can study up
[22:51] <tsimonq2> sent
[22:51] <valorie> of course tsimonq2 has proposed that it's too easy and we need to make it harder
[22:51] <valorie> lol
[22:51] <acheronuk> valorie: I did, most of it doesn't seem to tally on dates for some reson I haven't worked out yet
[22:52] <valorie> boo
[22:52] <clivejo> tsimonq2 needs a slap from a trout
[22:52] <valorie> perhaps it took a day or two
[22:53] <tsimonq2> yes, that's good
[22:53] <acheronuk> Scarlet: Meeting date = 2014-11-06 date on LP = 2014-02-13
[22:53] <tsimonq2> make me be online for 24 hours straight and throw me random tasks
[22:54] <tsimonq2> hard ones, too
[22:54] <valorie> yikes
[22:54] <valorie> that's bad for your health
[22:54] <valorie> my floor needs to be vacuumed though
[22:54] <tsimonq2> I've done 36 hours before
[22:54] <valorie> fly here and do that
[22:54] <tsimonq2> LOL
[22:55] <tsimonq2> haven't gone 48, that's on my bucket list. Then I'm legally declared insane. I'll get to hop on here and say, "ok, I'm now legally insane, time to upload a bunch of things to the archive"
[22:55] <tsimonq2> :P
[22:56] <tsimonq2> hehehehehehehe
[22:56] <tsimonq2> I'll just let dput run in the background, I'll go to sleep :P
[22:57] <clivejo> ok finally got into the wiki
[22:57] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clivejo/DeveloperApplication
[22:58] <valorie> \o/
[22:58]  * acheronuk cheers
[22:59] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: look at your wiki page
[22:59] <acheronuk> oh god. what now
[22:59] <valorie> good start, clivejo
[22:59] <tsimonq2> I, Clive Johnston, apply for <upload rights for Kubuntu package(s)>. - remove the < and >
[22:59] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I updated clivejo's testimonial ;)
[23:00] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: hmph! so you did...
[23:00] <tsimonq2> LOL
[23:00] <clivejo> you did what now?
[23:00] <tsimonq2> clivejo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RikMills
[23:01] <valorie> that is the immediate need, but being a Developer is more than just uploading
[23:01] <tsimonq2> valorie: you should take a look too :P
[23:01] <valorie> it's like being one of the owners of a business, in that it is your baby
[23:02] <tsimonq2> valorie: except the employee in training can't get the keys to the store, even though the store is slowly catching on fire
[23:02]  * tsimonq2 runs
[23:02] <tsimonq2> I win :P
[23:02] <valorie> the people doing the opening and closing usually have the keys
[23:02] <valorie> my son did, when he managed office depot
[23:03] <tsimonq2> well not in the store you're talking about!
[23:03] <valorie> and we're not catching fire, except in the good ways!
[23:03] <valorie> honestly, I've been involved for many years, and it's awesome the energy here now
[23:03] <valorie> haven't seen it like this for years
[23:04] <tsimonq2> no, but our products are expired, and we need to restock before the tourists come in :P
[23:04] <valorie> we do
[23:04] <tsimonq2> COME ON, you gotta give me that one!
[23:04] <valorie> we are temporarily embarassed, indeed
[23:04] <acheronuk> new blood
[23:04] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: that's how belkinsa describes it
[23:04] <acheronuk> after erm... spilled blood
[23:04] <valorie> lol
[23:05] <tsimonq2> she's told me more than once, "we need new blood!"
[23:05] <tsimonq2> :P
[23:05] <tsimonq2> y'all know Svetlana? friend of mine :)
[23:05] <valorie> yes
[23:05] <valorie> from Ubuntu Women
[23:06] <tsimonq2> oic
[23:06] <valorie> we do welcome men there, by the way
[23:07] <valorie> got your CC, thanks simon
[23:07]  * tsimonq2 nods
[23:07] <tsimonq2> great :)
[23:08]  * acheronuk wonders what will go in the podcast tomorrow
[23:10] <tsimonq2> not me...
[23:11] <tsimonq2> why do people do things while I go learn things?!?!!! :P
[23:11] <acheronuk> Geometry is important :P
[23:12] <valorie> learning things IS doing things
[23:15] <clivejo> acheronuk: BTW the webhook for discover
[23:15] <clivejo> did you test it?
[23:16] <acheronuk> sorry. go distracted, how to test?
[23:17]  * clivejo wonders if there is a way to check if all our repos have a webhook
[23:18] <clivejo> well a change in git just trigger it
[23:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #33: STILL FAILING in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/33/
[23:20] <acheronuk> A script to go through and check them via the API?? https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html#webhook
[23:23] <tsimonq2> I'm pausing KCI
[23:23] <tsimonq2> just an FYI
[23:23] <shadeslayer> tsimonq2: if you point me to a tar of everything, I can do the upload
[23:23] <tsimonq2> :O o/ shadeslayer
[23:24] <valorie> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[23:24] <shadeslayer> halo
[23:24] <valorie> yes, you're wearing one
[23:24] <valorie> lol
[23:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[23:24] <tsimonq2> shadeslayer: so I just get everything ready and then tar it all up and you'll go through and dput?
[23:24] <shadeslayer> yep
[23:24] <tsimonq2> WOOOOOOO :D
[23:24] <shadeslayer> so just give me the frameworks tar of things to dput first
[23:25] <acheronuk> tag as well!
[23:25] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo: I've never done this before, halp
[23:25] <clivejo> Im just about to go to bed, but we have a tool in KA
[23:25] <tsimonq2> clivejo: what's it called?!?
[23:26] <tsimonq2> aha
[23:26] <tsimonq2> ubuntu-archive-upload?
[23:26] <clivejo> please be careful
[23:26] <tsimonq2> I will
[23:27] <acheronuk> I had a go with that a week or so ago
[23:27] <acheronuk> see what it did
[23:27] <tsimonq2> shadeslayer: give me 10 mins
[23:27] <shadeslayer> sure, I'm around for another 30 or so minutes
[23:27] <tsimonq2> oh cool
[23:27] <clivejo> acheronuk: can you work with Simon and make notes please
[23:27] <shadeslayer> plus I have 300 mbps up, so it should be quick :)
[23:28] <valorie> oh don't brag and make me hate you
[23:28] <valorie> lol
[23:28] <shadeslayer> tsimonq2: or if you email me links, I'll upload them tomorrow
[23:28]  * clivejo curses and mutters under his breath
[23:28] <shadeslayer> valorie: only for a month :P
[23:28] <shadeslayer> then I have 50 symetric
[23:28] <clivejo> Rohan where are you?
[23:28] <shadeslayer> Barcelona
[23:29] <acheronuk> clivejo: the git for FW 5.26 is in a test branch I think
[23:29] <clivejo> so jealous
[23:29] <valorie> shadeslayer: the sooner the better I think, because supposedly there is a soft freeze before the hard freeze
[23:29] <valorie> for the beta
[23:30] <shadeslayer> okay
[23:30] <valorie> not sure why, but I hear that muttered around
[23:30] <clivejo> acheronuk: I really don't know, Im so far out of the loop
[23:31] <clivejo> all I can say is Im running the packages from staging and they seem to be stable
[23:31] <tsimonq2> it's AWESOME when the script isn't working and I have to troubleshoot...
[23:31] <valorie> you're here and that's all that counts, clivejo
[23:31] <valorie> we all do what we can
[23:31] <clivejo> life has been like a roller coaster since I got back from Berlin
[23:31] <valorie> I regret not buying you a beer in Berlin, shadeslayer!
[23:32] <valorie> next time
[23:32] <shadeslayer> it's all good :)
[23:33]  * clivejo wonders if shadeslayer had too much beer at times :P
[23:33] <valorie> oh how could that be?
[23:33] <shadeslayer> beer, don't think so
[23:33] <valorie> lol
[23:33] <mparillo> Rohan, I do not what to highlight your nick unnecessarily, but I did want to add my thanks.
[23:33] <shadeslayer> np :)
[23:33] <shadeslayer> you're most welcome :)
[23:33] <clivejo> or was it wine
[23:33] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: do source packages need to be signed by any of us?
[23:33] <shadeslayer> clivejo: when was this xD
[23:34] <shadeslayer> acheronuk: nah, I'll be resigning them anyway
[23:34] <clivejo> QtCon
[23:34] <shadeslayer> clivejo: ahh when we were all having free wine
[23:34] <clivejo> when Haruld was singing Danny boy
[23:34] <shadeslayer> I think the wine was pretty strong, but I wasn't *drunk*
[23:34] <shadeslayer> I was tipsy at best
[23:34] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: that's what I hoped, as the script baukled at that when I tested
[23:35] <acheronuk> so clivejo ....
[23:35] <valorie> harald wouldn't *stop* "singing" Danny Boy
[23:35] <acheronuk> 1) build
[23:35] <acheronuk> 2) tag
[23:35] <acheronuk> 3) merge with yakkety archive?
[23:36] <acheronuk> or 3) 1) 2) ?
[23:36] <clivejo> I dont get the merge with YY archive?
[23:36] <clivejo> merge what?
[23:37] <clivejo> the script _should_ be working with YY archive branch
[23:37] <clivejo> and makes a release
[23:38] <acheronuk> santa did FW 5.26 in a new kubuntu_yakkety_backport branch in case FW 5.26 didn't work out
[23:38] <clivejo> oh, wasnt aware of that
[23:38] <clivejo> or didnt take it in
[23:39] <clivejo> was sgclark involved with that?
[23:40] <acheronuk> even a merge might not be right, as basically need the backport one exchanged for the archive one with no changes.
 Well my internet has died
 And my brain isn't far behind
[23:41] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: are you reading this>
[23:42] <tsimonq2> please work please work please work
[23:42] <tsimonq2> I'm troubleshooting this script...
[23:42] <tsimonq2> let's see
[23:43] <tsimonq2> yes yes that's all taken care of
 But from what you are saying, those changes need merged into yy archive branch to make a release
[23:44] <tsimonq2> yep it merges from that
[23:44] <acheronuk> clivejo: or switched via a rename
[23:44] <acheronuk> as is started out as a copy of the archive branch anyway
[23:44] <tsimonq2> hah, I have the deb-src line enabled, so instead of dputting it, it just does apt source!!!!!!!!
[23:44]  * tsimonq2 crazily laughs
 I don't know, seems to be totally out of sync with our normal workflow
[23:46] <tsimonq2> well it's *going* to work :P
[23:46] <tsimonq2> or I'll make it work
[23:46] <santa_> well, indeed the fw 5.26 are in the _backports branch
[23:46] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: what branch are you using?
[23:47] <shadeslayer> you have until 22nd to get me those tars btw
[23:47]  * acheronuk thinks, at least plasma is in _archive
[23:47] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[23:47] <santa_> shadeslayer: so you just need a tar with the source packages, right?
[23:47] <shadeslayer> santa_: yeah
[23:47] <santa_> ok
[23:47] <shadeslayer> well the appropriate files to dput
[23:47] <santa_> I will work tomorrow on the scriptery to do this
[23:48] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: maybe bot
[23:48] <shadeslayer> which would be the .changes
[23:48] <acheronuk> maybe not
[23:48] <shadeslayer> and everything accompanying .changes
[23:48] <santa_> I have the impresion the old tooling won't do the job
[23:48] <santa_> sure, I know what to do
[23:49] <santa_> hmm you said 22nd
[23:49] <shadeslayer> santa_: I think tsimonq2 is making the update?
[23:49] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: hey!
[23:49] <shadeslayer> hi ahoneybun
[23:49] <tsimonq2> HAI ahoneybun :D
[23:49]  * shadeslayer needs some tea, brb
[23:49] <ahoneybun> just saw your email
[23:50] <santa_> tsimonq2: are you working on it or not? because I have my doubts the old tooling will do the job...
[23:50] <tsimonq2> it's going
[23:50] <tsimonq2> it's working fine
[23:50] <tsimonq2> do not worry
[23:50] <santa_> ok
[23:51] <tsimonq2> it's doing exactly what it should be doing
[23:51] <tsimonq2> it's written in Python and I'm good at Python ;)
[23:51] <tsimonq2> the only thing is, my secret key isn't on my Linode, so I'll have to do all the tagging locally
[23:51] <acheronuk> seemed to work when I tried it a week or so ago
[23:52] <ahoneybun> just approved your email shadeslayer lol
[23:52] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: beta freeze will be before the 22 according to infinity
[23:53] <acheronuk> *before 22nd
[23:53] <tsimonq2> yeah
[23:53] <shadeslayer> yeah I guess
[23:53] <tsimonq2> I'm working on it ;)
[23:54] <tsimonq2> ok, what...
[23:54] <acheronuk> tonight or tomorrow I think
[23:55] <tsimonq2> somebody didn't set the maintainers field right
[23:55] <tsimonq2> so it ALL needs to be redone
[23:55] <tsimonq2> (and by ALL I mean just my script on linode)
[23:55] <acheronuk> why?
[23:56] <tsimonq2> kdenlive
[23:56] <tsimonq2> please fix
[23:56] <tsimonq2> whole thing halts with this:
[23:56] <tsimonq2> dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[23:57] <tsimonq2> I'm overriding for now
[23:58] <tsimonq2> well I don't think that's possib;e
[23:58] <tsimonq2> *possible
[23:58] <tsimonq2> argh
[23:59] <acheronuk> kdenlive isn't frameworks?
[23:59] <valorie> no
[23:59] <valorie> it is an application
[23:59] <tsimonq2> I'm doing apps right now


 ubuntu-bug-ubiquity
 Help
[01:03] <linuxnoob> hello
 How do I fix this bug
[01:22] <guiverc> @Reagan, try `ubuntu-bug ubiquity`  (ubuntu-bug is the program, ubiquity the package that is an option for ubuntu-bug)
 I am confused, I'm new too Linux and don't know anything
[02:19] <valorie> @Reagan using `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` is the easiest way to report a bug
 Yes but has there been a solution to it
[02:19] <valorie> it gathers automatically the information the many bug reports leave out, that the devels need to test
[02:20] <valorie> how do you know there has been a solution?
 I am asking if there is a solution
[02:20] <valorie> how would we know?
[02:20] <valorie> you have not said what the problem is
[02:21] <valorie> and a proper bug report is the way to report the problem
[02:21] <valorie> the people in this channel are not ubuiquty devels
[02:21] <valorie> this chan is for neon development
[02:22] <valorie> this has nothing to do with linux -- all software has bugs, and reporting them is the way to get them fixed
[02:23] <valorie> just open your terminal application or the actual term and type that: ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[02:23] <valorie> to paste that: control-shift V after you copy
[02:24] <valorie> then do what the instructions say
[02:24] <valorie> it will open in a browser and that's where you say what problem you are experiencing
[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:58] <maxgt1> Hello, i am new here so please feel free to point out any mistakes.
[10:01] <maxgt1> I have a problem whenever i do updates, i get the error "Package failed to install Error while installing package: installed rtl8812au-dkms package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10
[10:25] <yossarianuk>  hi - i am trying to use either tmux or screen to start a session, then logout (via SSH) and re able to reconnect later
[10:25] <yossarianuk>  however, when i logout of ssh I lose the session
[10:25] <yossarianuk>  i.e - i can detach and re-attach to screen session fine - until I logout of ssh
[10:25] <yossarianuk> when i re-login to ssh i cannot reattach (and there is no screen/SCREEN pid)
[10:44] <lordievader> Are you disconnecting from your screen/tmux session or exiting?
[10:54] <yossarianuk> lordievader: I was detaching first then logging out of ssh
[10:54] <yossarianuk> and it kills tmux or/and screen sessions on ssh logout
[10:54] <lordievader> Does it list your session after detaching?
[10:55] <yossarianuk> no  - no session available
[10:55] <yossarianuk> its fine
[10:55] <yossarianuk> until i logout of ssh
[10:55] <yossarianuk> however - i have found a solution
[10:55] <yossarianuk> it's a systemd/logind issue (the machine I aqm connecting to is kde neon - from a kubuntu desktop..)
[10:55] <yossarianuk>  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/490267/prevent-logoff-from-killing-tmux-session
[10:56] <yossarianuk>  # systemd-run --scope --user tmux  = solution
[10:56] <yossarianuk> that works..
[10:58] <yossarianuk> so i'm happy now...
[11:05] <yossarianuk> lordievader: thank you for your help anyway
[11:06] <yossarianuk> one other thing - i am running kubuntu 20.04 - will there ever be a later version of KDE in backports PPA ?
[11:06] <yossarianuk> or not due to QT version ?
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[17:24] <user|93327> Yesterday my 20.04 system updates showed the 5.8 kernel (5.8.0-34).
[17:24] <user|93327> After updating, my system would not boot.  It stopped at a prompt initramfs.
[17:24] <user|93327> So I booted back with my older 5.4.0-59, which still worked OK.
[17:24] <user|93327> Today Updates showed a mixture of files, 5.8 and 5.4, which seems confusing.
[17:24] <user|93327> I tried selecting just 5.8 again.  This time 5.8.0-36.
[17:24] <user|93327> There were lots of nvidia updates (some marked as 5.8 nvidia) that I did Not Select.
[17:24] <user|93327> Again it would not boot, after updating.  It stopped at the prompt initramfs again.
[17:40] <Maik> user|93327: enter grub and try to boot from the older 5.4 kernel. Al lot users seem to have issues with 5.8 on 20.04.1. AFAIK that kernel shouldn't even come with regular updates as of yet.
[17:41] <Maik> i have a Ubuntu MATE 20.04.1 which runs with 5.4.0-60 as of today, i didn't get 5.8 at all. I guess you guys enabled HWE too early?
[17:42] <user|93327> I've booted to an older 5.4 kernel.  I am seeking advice on how best to repair my system.
[17:43] <user|93327> Should I try updating to 5.4.0-60, to see if that helps?
[17:50] <Maik> user|93327: you could try it...
[17:51] <Maik> and remove the 5.8 kernel too while your at it if it works with the 5.4 kernel
[19:16] <user|5519> OLa
[19:16] <user|5519> instalar adaptador wi fi
[19:17] <Quantos> Running KUbuntu 20.4.1 LTS x64, in term I can no longer make a ~ it comes out as ¬ and it won't work
[19:48] <Quantos> Running KUbuntu 20.4.1 LTS x64, in term I can no longer make a ~ it comes out as ¬ and it won't work
[19:49] <Quantos> It worked the day before yesterday, but now it's all messed up