[22:04] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: are you sure its not like PCIE1 or PCIE16?
[22:04] <ubuntu_> je cherche de l'aide pour installer ubuntu !
[22:04] <curtmack> It's not necessarily that other people are lying, it's that you have a different computer and therefore a different experience.
[22:04] <Rubyiris> it's slower than vista.
[22:04] <erUSUL> !fr | ubuntu_
[22:04] <Rubyiris> :|
[22:04] <curtmack> But yeah, the firefox thing is known.
[22:04] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: no, this is from an old Gateway desktop, like 2002 or 2001 even
[22:04] <jken146> kaell: That is always the way with linux sound
[22:04] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: check the appdb incase you need extra settings
[22:04] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: you will have to give details of the setup and thngs you tried and what failed/is slow
[22:05] <metricpiano> klappi & archboxman:  been doing that and trying to understand... I've got ATI catylist control center, and it says open "Restricted Driver Manager" which I don't have, I've done the Compiz-check and I don't even know what that is... I have the latest jockey-gtk apparently... I still don't know if I need to do more, or less or what...
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: you can always add the wine repo to get a newer build
[22:05] <curtmack> I can't play the Sands of Time trilogy on this computer because the mouse controls are inverted horizontally.
[22:05] <curtmack> I don't know why and it completely stumped Ubisoft's support.
[22:05] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: until that you are trolling like llutz said
[22:05] <Rubyiris> whats wine repo?
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> curtmack: theres a wine hack for that
[22:05] <Rubyiris> I'm not fucking trolling, god dan.
[22:05] <Rubyiris> =\
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: websearch and you will find it
[22:05] <maco> Rubyiris: dont swear
[22:05] <actionParsnip1> !ohmy | Rubyiris
[22:05] <llutz> even worse, trolls are funny sometimes
[22:05] <maco> and will you all please *listen* to Rubyiris instead of running your mouths?
[22:05] <Rubyiris> Then don't treat me like trash, then?
[22:05] <curtmack> Rubyiris: winehq.org
[22:05] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: the say what is going so slow in what machine and with what configuration/set up
[22:06] <curtmack> on the download page, it has Ubuntu installation instructions
[22:06] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: it is the Creative SB CT4870 -- http://www.esaitech.com/commerce/ccp17878-creative-labs-sound-blaster-32-bit-pci-sound-card-ct4870-17878.htm
[22:06] <maco> native firefox is slow. this i a known issue. wine +win32firefox is a known work around
[22:06] <klappi> metricpiano: you are the wow guy? you need to have you gfx driver working descently first, try with a linux opengl game and then run wow in opengl mode as i have shown you
[22:06] <metricpiano> i am not the wow guy
[22:06] <maco> erUSUL: Rubyiris said that native firefox is slow
[22:06] <Anden21> Hey, how do I sort out read-only sectors on my hard disk
[22:06] <erUSUL> maco: ok; ty
[22:06] <metricpiano> how do i tell if my gfx driver is working decently?
[22:06] <maco> erUSUL: so i suggested windows firefox + wine because that is twice as fast
[22:06] <actionParsnip1> maco: i think its slow
[22:07] <erUSUL> Anden21: with badblocks or the -ck option to fsck
[22:07] <curtmack> actionParsnip1: The horizontal mouse control thing is on native Windows.
[22:07] <Anden21> ok ty
[22:07] <xeco> boa noite
[22:07] <actionParsnip1> curtmack: then i'd ask in ##windows
[22:07] <erUSUL> !br | xeco
[22:07] <curtmack> I wasn't asking, I was giving an example for Rubyiris
[22:07] <actionParsnip1> curtmack: make sure the game is fully updated
[22:07] <xeco> preciso de ajuda para deletar uma impressora instalada aqui
[22:07] <klappi> metricpiano: glxinfo | grep "direct render" should show "yes"
[22:07] <archboxman> metricpiano: found a website for you to follow directions :) to install graphics card :)
[22:07] <xeco> alguem pode me ajudar?
[22:07] <maco> actionParsnip1: there were some benchmarks a while ago saying firefox in wine was faster. i talked to someone at uds barcelona about it. its because the windows build is profiled and the linux one isnt. this person was working on getting profiled builds of FF and OOo (I think?) for ubuntu
[22:08] <Rubyiris> how do i check the "appdb"?
[22:08] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: does this look like a PCI? http://www.esaitech.com/commerce/catalog/showpic.jsp?product_id=17878&czuid=1265320839917
[22:08] <jken146> Rubyiris: using FF 3.6 (there is a ppa for karmic) might help, as might various tweaks like disabling ipv6
[22:08] <erUSUL> Rubyiris: is a webpage
[22:08] <curtmack> of how the same game running on different systems can have different results
[22:08] <erUSUL> !appdb | Rubyiris
[22:08] <curtmack> or the same program
[22:08] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: i dont know. i dont play with hardware much
[22:08] <DavidJHeinrich> ahh
[22:08] <Reemo> Hey guys, i have a quite special question regarding what linux (in general) can do with fat32. You probably heard about conficker spreading via autorun.inf on portable media. Is there a way to lock this specific file so there is no way to overwrite it (like armoring the usb stick against the virus)?
[22:08] <actionParsnip1> maco: interesting stuff duder. truly staggering
[22:08] <DavidJHeinrich> anyone ave any idea?
[22:08] <actionParsnip1> maco: i use chromium daily now, kicks ass lots
[22:08] <klappi> metricpiano: then you can try if glxgears runs and wath the framerate i get 40833 for example
[22:08] <metricpiano> klappi: it says no and to set LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[22:09] <Rubyiris> and wehats ipv6?
[22:09] <Rubyiris> whats*
[22:09] <metricpiano> archboxman: I've been following websites but I'm willing to try another ... what is it?
[22:09] <klappi> metricpiano: what is the model of your card?
[22:09] <archboxman> klappi: what about this ???  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168263.html
[22:09] <curtmack> anyway, actual question: universe build of python-poker2d says that the module _pokerinterface2_6 is missing and google searching hasn't turned up anything
[22:09] <maco> Rubyiris: ipv4 is the current version of the Internet Protocol
[22:09] <maco> Rubyiris: you've seen IP addresses like <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:09] <metricpiano> ATI M22/M24
[22:09] <Rubyiris> Yes.
[22:10] <maco> Rubyiris: thats not enough addresses for the whole world, so IPv6 is the new version that will hold many more
[22:10] <Viking667> The reason I don't want to use 2.6.31 is because it keeps killing 3D programs. That's why I'm looking for something earlier
[22:10] <archboxman> metricpiano: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168263.html
[22:10] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
[22:10] <hss> hi guys im trying to make ati binary drivers to deb its give me 1 error can anyone help ?
[22:10] <DavidJHeinrich> ahhh, I see, looks like I have a universal PCI card: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCI_Keying.png
[22:10] <macman_> grub2 is crazy
[22:10] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.  Have tried cadaver as well as the graphical clients (davex
[22:10] <Rubyiris> does the wiki explain how to disable it?
[22:10] <Rubyiris> >_>
[22:10] <maco> Rubyiris: most stuff is currently on IPv4 but those are expected to run out by 2012 so there's migration to IPv6 as a replacement
[22:10] <DavidJHeinrich> set up to work in 3.3 & 5V PCI slots
[22:10] <actionParsnip1> macman_: its very strange indeed
[22:10] <metricpiano> archboxman: thanks... consider me afk for a bit.
[22:10] <sudobash> hey I just got a new laptop with ATI HD 4200 integrated graphics and I installed Ubuntu 9.10 next to Windows 7 should I use the Restricted Drivers in the Hardware Drivers section or download the latest ati graphics driver from the website?>
[22:10] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: no, i thought you were asking what it was
[22:11] <archboxman> metricpiano: wait question???
[22:11] <erUSUL> sudobash: the former
[22:11] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: you can add it in /etc/default/grub
[22:11] <maco> Rubyiris: if you want to turn off IPv6 DNS lookups in firefox, type "about:config" into the firefox address bar
[22:11] <metricpiano> archboxman: yeah?
[22:11] <klappi> metricpiano: i have nvidia sorry
[22:11] <maco> Rubyiris: turning off DNS lookups will *only* affect how much time between you hitting enter and it starting to download the webpage. if switching tabs is slow, it has no effect on that
[22:11] <Rubyiris> i can add what?
[22:11] <archboxman> metricpiano: do you know how to use gedit or vi??? to edit script???
[22:11] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1281820.html
[22:11] <hss> sudobash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:11] <Rubyiris> Oh alright.
[22:11] <sudobash> so that will be the best with FGLRX
[22:11] <actionParsnip1> Rubyiris: its also an option in firefox (if you use it)
[22:11] <metricpiano> archboxman: ye
[22:12] <metricpiano> s
[22:12] <cowguru2000> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my sound. It won't work altogether for some applications, and for others it is "laggy." I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. Can someone please help me?
[22:12] <sudobash> compiz fusion
[22:12] <erUSUL> metricpiano: told you your card is probably to old for the restricted ati drivers and you have to use radeon free driver (that is installed and used by default)
[22:12] <archboxman> metricpiano: ok good luck on that wesite
[22:12] <hss> yea im trying to install with those method but looks like something wrong :)
[22:12] <archboxman> erUSUL: what about this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168263.html for metricpiano
[22:12] <oktek> hi all, i have a question about graphic library under console mode (i've got a pc running ubuntu with console only, i would like to display 2 simple images), could you give me some tips on what library i could use ? You know like anaconda ?
[22:12] <Toink> Does it make any sense to install Netbook Remix instead of Desktop on an eee pc if I'm going to use classic menus anyway?
[22:12] <ccraze> What's that Ubuntu program called that can write a new model number to a HDD?
[22:13] <erUSUL> oktek: vgalib ?
[22:13] <artistx> It is my first time to see Artistix , men I am blown away pls Thank all the people for me a Billion times thx
[22:13] <Darael> Alternative method of resolving the problem with ipv6 lookups in Firefox: get an ipv6 tunnel!
[22:13] <Dobigeon> test !
[22:13] <actionParsnip1> Toink: define "classic menus"?
[22:13] <MeGaPk> Hello people, how increased desktop in netbook remix (used crtl+alt+delete)?
[22:13] <jbwiv> can someone point me to where I can change the default editor and pdf viewer for gnome?
[22:13] <erUSUL> !find vgalib
[22:13] <oktek> thx erUSUL, i try to see
[22:14] <cowguru2000> !find audacity
[22:14] <maco> Rubyiris: in the about:config screen you can search for ipv6
[22:14] <actionParsnip1> Toink: if you are just gonna switch to classic desktop you may as well download the desktop ISO
[22:14] <actionParsnip1> Toink: its a smaller initial download
[22:14] <archboxman> MeGaPk: what is your question??? not sure what your asking??
[22:14] <maco> Rubyiris: one is network.dns.disableIPv6 .. youd set that to true
[22:14] <Toink> actionParsnip1, is there less software preinstalled?
[22:14] <Viking667> And, why does the Gnome sound applet PERSIST in muting my sound volumes on BOTH my sound cards?
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> jbwiv, open Nautilus right click on a textfile and/or PDF click Preperties and go to the "Open With" tab
[22:14] <jken146> Toink: the kernel might be different for netbooks (check this, I'm not sure)
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:15] <erUSUL> !find zvg
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: depends which flavour you use
[22:15] <Viking667> It's frankly really really annoying to have to pump up the volume 95% of the time
[22:15] <Toink> actionParsnip1, flavour?
[22:15] <MeGaPk> archboxman: i bad know english.... all know, crtl+alt+ left or right....
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: XUbuntu will use less, you can use the minimal ISO to only install what you require
[22:15] <metricpiano> archboxman:  ok, so I tried to vi xorg.conf and there is no such file in /etc/X11... (eg. it comes up blank and ls does not show it either)
[22:15] <cowguru2000> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my sound. It won't work altogether for some applications, and for others it is "laggy." I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. Can someone please help me?
[22:15] <Toink> actionParsnip1, I see
[22:15] <actionParsnip1> Toink: KUbuntu, Ubuntu, XUbuntu or LUbuntu'
[22:16] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, great, thanks
[22:16] <auska1714> hi!
[22:16] <Viking667> metricpiano: sounds like it's using defaults then.
[22:16] <40FAABZGW> hi folks; how do i get my bluetooth headphones working on ubuntu 9.10?  they are already paired and headphones service is connected via bluetooth icon
[22:16] <Toink> jken146, I believe 'generic' kernels are used for netbooks
[22:16] <archboxman> metricpiano:locate xorg | more
[22:16] <auska1714> my computer says that it's using aproximetly the 50% of the CPU, is that normal?
[22:16] <erUSUL> !find zgv
[22:16] <archboxman> metricpiano: find the folder location :)
[22:17] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, what about changing all scripts (.rb, .py, pl, .sh, etc) to open in gVim instead of gEdit
[22:17] <MeGaPk> archboxman: how in netbook remix increased desktop (in crtl+alt left or right)
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> jbwiv, you'd probably have to do that on an extension by extension basis
[22:17] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, ugh...that sucks
[22:18] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: run: top    what is chewing the cpu?
[22:18] <Darael> jbwiv: ZykoticK9 isn't quite right - system->preferences->default applications would let you change the default plain-text editor - I /think/
[22:18] <protojay> .nick encoded
[22:19] <erUSUL> Darael: nope just checked :(
[22:19] <archboxman> MeGaPk: there is no increase desktop for a netbook that is why we have magnifer to see what you are looking at and that is why people use Netbook remixes to use the desktop relistate the best you can...
[22:19] <auska1714> sorry actionParsnip1 what i have tho run?
[22:19] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: top      like I said
[22:19] <Darael> erUSUL: Oh, whoops.  Never mind, just ignore me then.
[22:19] <metricpiano> archboxman: there are a few xorg directories but no xorg.conf file (locate xorg.conf:
[22:19] <metricpiano> /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz)
[22:19] <metricpiano> same results with | grep "xorg.conf"
[22:20] <infid> i changed /usr/share/applications/gvim.desktop from 'Exec=gvim -f %F' to 'Exec=gvim --remote %F', which works fine on my desktop running ubuntu, but not my laptop running ubuntu. I restart gvim and the change is still there but when it's not lauching with my new change. any idea why?
[22:20] <archboxman> metricpiano: hold on should be in /etc/xorg hold on
[22:20] <jbwiv> Darael, I thought so too, but under Karmic, it doesn't. Just Browser, Email, Music Player, Terminal Emulator, and Accessibility options
[22:20] <ikonia>  /etc/X11
[22:20] <infid> *restarted gdm i meant
[22:20] <auska1714> actionParsnip1, http://pastebin.com/m195a9d48
[22:20] <zoug> did a kernel update and xorg.conf washed. no drivers. how to prevent that?
[22:20] <jken146> jbwiv: It'll be buried somewhere in gconf
[22:20] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: Cpu(s):  5.1%us looks fine to me
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> Darael, are you using Karmic?  i don't have a "default applications", I have a "preferred application" but no reference to text files...
[22:20] <ikonia> zoug: kernel is nothing to do with the xorg.conf file
[22:21] <zoug> ikonia, my nvidia drivers were gone
[22:21] <Darael> ZykoticK9: Yeah, just ignore me - it used to be there but having actually checked on my kermic box it seems to have gone.
[22:21] <actionParsnip1> zoug: keep a copy someplace else and copy in afterwards is a workaround until you find out how
[22:21] <infid> nm i figured it out
[22:21] <mneptok> zoug: i'm guessing you installed the nVidia proprietary drivers?
[22:21] <ikonia> zoug: what do you mean "gone" a kernel update will not touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:21] <auska1714> on the dock, gnome do shows 50% :S
[22:21] <auska1714> oqs then its oq
[22:21] <auska1714> thanks ;)
[22:22] <zoug> actionParsnip1, okay..
[22:22] <archboxman> metricpiano: try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:22] <zoug> mneptok, yeah from envyng
[22:22] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: you do know that compiz and gnome-do are taking 10% of your ram
[22:22] <zoug> ikonia, but it did..
[22:22] <ikonia> zoug: no - it didn't, that must have been another update
[22:22] <mneptok> zoug: you have to reinstall the nVidia drivers every time there is a kernel update. those drivers build against the currently running kernel.
[22:22] <metricpiano> archboxman: thre is no such thing here is my ls of /etc/X11: app-defaults             fonts    xinit       Xsession          Xwrapper.config
[22:22] <metricpiano> cursors                  rgb.txt  xkb         Xsession.d
[22:22] <metricpiano> default-display-manager  X        Xresources  Xsession.options
[22:22] <auska1714> ups! i didn't know it
[22:23] <cowguru2000> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my sound. It won't work altogether for some applications, and for others it is "laggy." I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. Can someone please help me?
[22:23] <erUSUL> zoug: everytime you upgrade the kernel you have to reinstall the nvidia kernel module ....
[22:23] <zoug> mneptok, ah, il keep that in mind
[22:23] <auska1714> i will look about what to do
[22:23] <auska1714> thanks
[22:23] <zoug> thanks all!
[22:23] <archboxman> metricpiano: is this a livecd???
[22:23] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: its one reason why i dont use it
[22:23] <metricpiano> no it's Lucid 10.4 installed
[22:24] <metricpiano> and updated
[22:24] <archboxman> hmmm hold on
[22:24] <actionParsnip1> !lucid | metricpiano
[22:24] <auska1714> actionParsnip1, it's possible use gnome do with out compiz?
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> auska1714, i don't think so
[22:25] <auska1714> sh%&!
[22:25] <actionParsnip1> auska1714: gnomedo needs compositing (kde does compositing on its own afaik) but you need compiz to run gnomedo under gnome
[22:25] <metricpiano> I know but Karmic doesn't recognize my wireless adaptor and I got sick of working on it, under Lucid it works.
[22:26] <auska1714> well, i will look for somthing diferent then hehe
[22:26] <actionParsnip1> metricpiano: its fine to use it its just not supported in this channel
[22:27] <metricpiano> k, no prob I'll try #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <actionParsnip1> metricpiano: i use lucid myself
[22:28] <archboxman> metricpiano: should think about another distro that supports both lucid is in a alpha 2 vase and is not released till april... good luck :)
[22:29] <metricpiano> archboxman: thanks for your help
[22:29] <Darael> I've been trying to mount a webDAV share, which I normally can only get to through a godsawful MS ISA server browser interface.  I can't get it to mount with gvfs (places->connect to server), but I can mount it with davfs2 or fusedav.  Problem is, if I use davfs2 it takes... well, more than half an hour to unmount (I restarted in the end) and if I use fusedav I can't unmount it at all.  Have tried cadaver as well as the graphical clients (davex
[22:29] <archboxman> no problem
[22:30] <j_m_williams> I am wanting to build ubuntu packages from source does anyone know of a good tutorial
[22:30] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; how do i get my bluetooth headphones working on ubuntu 9.10?  they are already paired and headphones service is connected via bluetooth icon
[22:30] <actionParsnip1> Darael: http://samiux.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/howto-webdav-on-ubuntu-9-04-server/
[22:31] <archboxman> metricpiano: if your trying to get the latest and greatest to work your going to need a rolling release distro or just wait till april for support :)
[22:31] <CyL> Is there a way to automatically disable the computer's touchpad everytime a mouse is inserted?
[22:31] <Darael> actionParsnip1: I don't administrate the share.
[22:32] <Xpistos|work> Hey everyone
[22:32] <j_m_williams> Anyone? I am wanting to build ubuntu packages from source does anyone know of a good tutorial
[22:32] <CrashOverride> hey guys
[22:32] <CrashOverride> !sources > j_m_williams
[22:32] <actionParsnip1> Darael: try cadaver
[22:33] <j_m_williams> thanks!
[22:33] <Xpistos|work> j_m_williams: Linux reality had a good episode about compiling from source
[22:33] <CrashOverride> No problem
[22:33] <CrashOverride> :)
[22:33] <Darael> actionParsnip1: It's a client, but it won't let me mount it which is what I'm really after.
[22:33] <actionParsnip1> Darael: sudo cadaver http://servername
[22:33] <CrashOverride> !sources > CrashOverride
[22:33] <CrashOverride> ^_^
[22:33] <actionParsnip1> Darael: is this what you meant earlier: Go to “Place” > “Connect to Server“. Select “WebDAV (HTTP)“. Enter the IP of your WebDAV server and then press “Connect“. Submit the username and password. An icon will be displayed on your desktop. Double click it and go.
[22:34] <archboxman> lol ubottu
[22:34] <actionParsnip1> Darael: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202761
[22:34] <Darael> actionParsnip1: If you reread my original question, that was the first thing I tried.  It don't work.
[22:34] <CyL> Does ubuntu has any applet to deal with the disable touchpad button on the keyboard?
[22:34] <archboxman> !bot
[22:34] <joel___> .
[22:34] <CrashOverride> !bot > ubottu
[22:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> Don't play with the bot please.
[22:35] <Darael> actionParsnip1: davfs was the second thing I tried, but it takes a very long time indeed to unmount.  So long that I've never actually seen it complete.
[22:35] <actionParsnip1> Darael: thats all i got, maybe someone else can contribute
[22:35] <lekefly> My DNS wont work.. :(
[22:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> Darael, what's the sitch bro?
[22:35] <Darael> actionParsnip1: Yeah, it's been a while trying to do this one.
[22:35] <actionParsnip1> Darael: before, instead of writing that long snidey remark, a simple "yes" is not only quicker but politer
[22:36] <Darael> actionParsnip1: Point.  Sorry!
[22:36] <actionParsnip1> Darael: np
[22:36] <j_m_williams> Guys, I'm just looking for some pointers on building packages. Any help (links) is appreciated.
[22:36] <macman_> guys question .. what is the default file for grub2
[22:37] <Darael> SpaceGhostC2C: Attempting to mount a webDAV share, unable to mount with gvfs, big troubles /un/mounting with both davfs and fusedav
[22:37] <archboxman> actionParsnip1: what ever happened to a simple question now everyone wants the lastest and greatest to work right out the box... Darael what is boxnet????
[22:37] <Darael> archboxman: I haven't a clue!
[22:38] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: ive not bout hardware in AGES
[22:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> archboxman, probably ever since ubuntu started looking more and more interesting.
[22:38] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: itd be nice if it would but linux doesnt have the support or funding which the others get
[22:38] <CyL> Is there a way to automatically disable the computer's touchpad everytime a mouse is inserted?
[22:38] <j_m_williams> Anyone?
[22:39] <kermit> jken146: the Installed-Size seems to be quite inaccurate: # dpkg-query --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' -W torcs .. 31476 torcs .. # dpkg -L  torcs .. Package `torcs' does not contain any files (!)
[22:39] <novato_br> hi everyone? what's default user name and password of ubuntu mint 8?
[22:39] <actionParsnip1> !compile | j_m_williams
[22:39] <Darael> CyL: Probably not an easy graphical one.  I'd think it could be done with udev rules...
[22:39] <actionParsnip1> !mint | novato_br
[22:39] <Rikki_Tikki> If I want to boot ubuntu from an external hard drive, is there anything special I need to do?  Or do I just install it from the live CD onto the hard drive?  There are a million tutorials for this out there, but they all say different things.
[22:40] <archboxman> actionParsnip1:  and SpaceGhostC2C I use archlinux because for the latest and greatest I have to use a rolling distro and the setup is not that easy and ubuntu is trying implament udev I see with upstart....
[22:40] <recon69_lap> novato_br: not sure , but would guess the one you used when you installed it :)
[22:40] <macman_> i have 2 grub entrys for windows i would like to remove 1 of them .. how would i do this ?
[22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> Rikki_Tikki, you just install it to the externel and then make sure to boot from the externel.
[22:40] <actionParsnip1> Rikki_Tikki: change bios to boot cd, there is a usb install option on the livecd
[22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> archboxman, I actually roll my LFS distro.
[22:40] <Rikki_Tikki> Ok, and that will write to the partition on the external drive only?
[22:40] <j_m_williams> !compile
[22:41] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: i use ubuntu because all my hardware works out of the box and ive got to the point where i dont care as long as my system works
[22:41] <j_m_williams> !packages
[22:41] <CyL> Darael: may just an app that could deal with the the button on my keyboard that eneables/disables the touchpad?
[22:41] <actionParsnip1> Rikki_Tikki: providing you use the right installer, yes. you can always shutdown and pull the power from the internal drive to be sure
[22:41] <Darael> CyL: I'm afraid I don't know.
[22:41] <Viking667> bah stuff it all. Sound doesn't work.
[22:41] <Rikki_Tikki> Probably not happening.  I'm using a laptop.  =/
[22:41] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: so i use older hardware and have zero issues :)
[22:42] <Darael> Does anyone know of an app that can open SMART notebook files?  Besides SMART Notebook, that is!
[22:42] <CyL> Darael: okay, thanks for your time buddy...
[22:42] <actionParsnip1> Rikki_Tikki: then tread carefully and read, you will be fine
[22:42] <rdvonz> Hey, having trouble with my monitor resolution. It used to go to 1280x1024 now it's at 800x600 and I can't change it.
[22:42] <Rikki_Tikki> actionParsnip1: alright, thanks for the help.
[22:43] <rdvonz> Darael: Similar to the smartboards schools are using now?
[22:43] <Darael> rdvonz: Same app, yeah.  I've got to get one open, and the free viewer is windows-only.
[22:44] <daftykins> Darael: seeing those at a place i worked had me thinking they'd use an evil proprietary format. is it not just bmp renamed then?
[22:44] <actionParsnip1> http://en.sourcews.com/smart-notebook-now-available-all-core
[22:44] <archboxman> actionParsnip1: Ubuntu is on its way to becoming the Windows of linux with all these support questions people and want there desires meet??? just to much there is a lot bloat on ubuntu :)
[22:44] <Kibby> anyone know a great mp3/aac tagging software for linux?
[22:44] <rdvonz> Darael: Assuming you don't want to use wine for any of this, I did a quick google search: http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Support/SBS/SBSv97Linux.htm
[22:45] <tyler_d> when I go System->Admistration->Hardware Drivers and select the recommended video driver, the download/install only gets 50% complete, then just hangs, brand-new 9.10 install.?? any help would be awesome.
[22:45] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: kinda yeah
[22:45] <archboxman> Darael: playonlinux :)
[22:45] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: not if you use the minimal install though ;)
[22:46] <Darael> rdvonz: I did look at the SMART website, but it looked like I'd need a key for the versions that would run on Linux.
[22:46] <archboxman> actionParsnip1: I agree ,but most people don't know about the minimal install of ubuntu...
[22:46] <Darael> archboxman: Nice as playonlinux is, I'd be surprised if they had a smart-notebook install script.
[22:46] <actionParsnip1> archboxman: some dont know about linux
[22:47] <archboxman> Darael: for what???
[22:47] <archboxman> Darael: I run this program on my laptop ;)
[22:47] <Darael> archboxman: You suggested playonlinux - I need this nasty closed SMART notebook file open.
[22:48] <archboxman> Darael: what are you trying to do make a connection via internet to a windows computer
[22:48] <Darael> archboxman: I moved on from that one, I'm now trying to get a SMART notebook file open.
[22:49] <mneptok> Darael: http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Support/Downloads/SBS/NBS10Linux.htm
[22:49] <archboxman> what is a smart file???
[22:49] <archboxman> lmao
[22:49] <actionParsnip1> Darael: does the file open if you install the windows app in wine then run it
[22:49] <schiggy> hi
[22:50] <Darael> mneptok: The only ones I found on SMART's site require me to both a) pay and b) give a random file from the internet a root password - I don't /think/ so.
[22:50] <schiggy> i have a problem with ubuntu 9.10 grub2 and eeepc 901go
[22:50] <actionParsnip1> !details | schiggy
[22:50] <mneptok> Darael: the Windows version requires you to pay, as well.
[22:50] <schiggy> i never see the menu for kernel choise
[22:50] <archboxman> Darael: what is in this smart file????
[22:50] <Darael> mneptok: There's a Student Version for Windows - a free viewer.
[22:51] <Darael> archboxman: Some presentation I have to give...
[22:51] <homebrewcider> Hi there, I have a fresh installation of Xubuntu 9.10. Auto login fails every time and I get taken to a manual login screen. It takes usually between 4 and 8 attempts to login using my user name and password. How can I check the cause of the problem. I'm assuming there's a log somewhere but don't know what to look for.
[22:51] <mneptok> Darael: check the WINE appdb to see if the viewer is known to run in WINE
[22:51] <Viking667> I've got modules loaded for my sound, but alsa still insists there are no soundcards.
[22:51] <archboxman> Darael:oh your taking a college course via internet??
[22:51] <Viking667> even when the command "alsa reload" unloaded all the sound modules, then reloaded the exact same ones....
[22:52] <Darael> archboxman: Close enough.
[22:52] <Viking667> So... what the heck am I missing?
[22:52] <loops> Viking667,  what does dmesg say?
[22:52] <_dreamy> do the HyperZ 3d cards, go seek for the systems RAM has a Resource? anyone helping?
[22:52] <Viking667> finds that the ES1371 is there, as well as the on board AC97
[22:52] <Viking667> snd_via82xx
[22:52] <Darael> mneptok: Doesn't even have an entry!
[22:53] <Darael> I have to go.  Thanks anyway.  G'night!
[22:53] <Viking667> I even hear clicks when I modprobe the es1371
[22:53] <mneptok> Darael: so see if it works, and then update the WINE appdb :)
[22:53] <loops> Viking667, what are you seeing that suggests alsa isn't seeing the cards ?
[22:53] <archboxman> Darael: those webservers are maintained the campus and files like that should be accessed by the campus requirements...Or vist a library and print out the article is the way I would go... if it is only for one presatation... good luck
[22:54] <th3voic3> Hi. I have used backintime for a while to backup my home folder. the backup-folder is now almost 100gb in size. Now I'm trying to delete that folder. it moved to trash and the "file operations" dialog has now disappeared, too. however there is still disk activity and when I try to disconnect the external hard drive on which the backup folder resided it says gfvsd-trash is keeping it busy. what can i do?
[22:54] <Spreadsheet_> Is it possible to have certain fonts appear anti-aliased and others normal?
[22:54] <Viking667> alsactl store; alsactl: load-state(1608):   no soundcards found
[22:54] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone here know what the PCM slider on the ALSA mixer is?
[22:54] <Viking667> do I have to nuke asound.ctl and restart alsa?
[22:54] <truthtaco> having video issues, using open source driver = not working, no ATI restricted driver available
[22:54] <DavidJHeinrich> is it only there for onboard sound, or also for sound-cards?
[22:55] <truthtaco> (need help etc etc)
[22:55] <loops> Viking667, perhaps; worth a shot
[22:55] <Zarrex> evening all
[22:56] <archboxman> TruthTaco: try another distro that supports the ati card ... like suse since they were the ones working on support for ati cards in the first place...
[22:56] <Viking667> hm. Didn't work. Alsamixer still insists there's no such device (default)
[22:56] <macman_> anyone using a custom grub splash theme on grub2 ?
[22:57] <archboxman> !opensuse
[22:57] <macman_> timfrost: the website says we can't 0_o
[22:57] <macman_> err.
[22:57] <macman_> my bad
[22:57] <Zarrex> need help with lvm2 please, am getting multiple mounts for one volume.  have # out fstab lines but still the volume shows multiple time in 'disk utility' and can not mount other then read only
[22:57] <archboxman> !bot
[22:57] <schiggy> i am using ubuntu 9.10 with grub2 on an eeepc 901go. when i did the update the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel was installed but i never see the grub menu for choise. do anyone knows that problem?
[22:58] <archboxman> !Opensuse
[22:58] <Viking667> Weird thing is: I've got sound devices in /dev and even a couple of control devices in /dev/snd/
[22:58] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?
[22:58] <archboxman> stupid bot :/
[22:58] <Viking667> ... that point to two control devices in dev
[22:58] <hyperstation> i am not bot anyway
[22:59] <Viking667> hyperstation: weren't talking about you.. more what archboxman said
[22:59] <loops> Viking667, you don't have a buggered ~/.asoundrc do you
[22:59] <Viking667> hm. Could do. I never thought of that, as I didn't know it existed until now.
[22:59] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?.....no one answers my question..
[22:59] <loops> Viking667, you probably don't have one then
[23:00] <iceroot> hyperstation: dont backup all packages is not very detailed, what packages for .e.g?
[23:00] <danbhfive> hyperstation: maybe it is only backing up the packages you have in cache
[23:00] <archboxman> hyperstation: why do you want to backup old packages???
[23:01] <hyperstation> no, actually my package is all new
[23:01] <Viking667> urk.
[23:01] <Viking667> wrong damn machine.
[23:01] <archboxman> hyperstation: burn them to a cd???
[23:01] <loops> Viking667, lol.
[23:01] <hyperstation> no, i want to burn them on dvd
[23:02] <danbhfive> hyperstation: what is missing?
[23:02] <archboxman> hyperstation: go ahead what is your point?? they'll be outdated in about 3 months.. what exactly are you saving the .deb packages for??
[23:03] <hyperstation> examples : audacious, vlc, and something important for KDE environment and my gambas :(
[23:03] <hyperstation> i want to install it to my desktop PC
[23:03] <vincenzo> I am looking for help on installing makeinfo in my ubuntu distro
[23:04] <archboxman> hyperstation: that is why we use apt-get install program  and program and program
[23:04] <vincenzo> I have tried that but it says that the package is not found
[23:04] <marc__> I have 3 computer plugged in a Gigabyte Switch, the switch is plugged in my router, the router is plug in the cable modem... If I want to use port 58846 to connect from one computer to another, do I need to configure the router or it's not necessary since they are all plugged in the switch?
[23:04] <hyperstation> lol..my internet connection cannot do it
[23:04] <xentek> can anyone point me towards a resource about modifying ubuntu's init.d for memcached to start multiple instances?
[23:05] <Viking667> I think I found what's wrong. alsactl's only looking for stuff in /dev/snd, and of course, there's bugger all there.
[23:05] <Viking667> one directory, called "by-id"
[23:05] <aaron_> im having some trouble with LVM, i've created an md raid (working fine) and added it to a pv, created a vg and added lv's they all show up under pv/vg/lvscan. but in most docs it says there should be a folder in /dev/<vgname> with the lv's in it, its not there, any ideas?
[23:05] <Viking667> and inside that directory, are two entries pointing back to two entries in /dev
[23:05] <archboxman> hyperstation: you want to know location of the .deb files to burn to disk??? yes no
[23:05] <Viking667> So I'm rather wondering what the hell happened to the sound and to the device manager
[23:05] <fenix`> damn irssi default settings.
[23:06] <diegobestlinux> ola
[23:06] <Viking667> fenix`: did you realise that if you start irssi with --nick whatever   it'll save that to your config? From then on, you'll start off as "whatever" nick.
[23:06] <hyperstation> if i had better internet connection i would never ask this question hehe
[23:06] <nocleader> marc_ : If all 3 hosts are on the same subnet you won't need to change the router ( I assume you don't have an ACL on router )
[23:07] <hyperstation> yes of course...anyway, where is it?
[23:07] <nocleader> marc_ : also I assume you are NOT using vlans on the switch
[23:07] <danbhfive> hyperstation: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep vlc        anything show up?
[23:07] <garymc> Hey my webserver is on the net I know the IP but I need to tunnel somehow to a polycom phone on the subnet of my server. Anyone know how I can do this?
[23:07] <thinkwritemute> For some reason my System Monitor is showing CPU1 at 70% and CPU2 at 80%~, but I can't find the source!
[23:07] <thinkwritemute> Now my computer is extremely sluggish.
[23:07] <marc__> nocleader, don't think so, basic 5port home router
[23:08] <nocleader> marc_ : yes I agree,  simple stuff
[23:08] <B3rz3rk3r> thinkwritemute, have you opened System Monitor and arranged the tabs accroding to CPU usage?
[23:09] <nocleader> marc_ : don't forget a possible firewall on your hosts; that could affect things
[23:09] <thinkwritemute> B3rz3rk3r: If by tabs you mean columns, yes I have. The worst offender is System Monitor at 20%-40%
[23:09] <thinkwritemute> The remaining processes are 0%
[23:09] <B3rz3rk3r> yeah i did, thats odd
[23:10] <marc__> nocleader, so all communication between computer is going only through the switch and only on the router to go on the net.  do I understand correctly?
[23:10] <hyperstation> nothing happened...btw it is not only that package...even aptoncd cannot backup my gnome-ppp
[23:10] <Talon_> gnome is not shutting off my monitor, I went to preferences>Screensaver, bumped it down to 1 minute, clicked power management, set my screen to shut off at one minute, i wait a min, it fades to black and then jumps back to being fully bright n never shuts off
[23:10] <garymc> Anyone know how I can tunnel???
[23:10] <B3rz3rk3r> thinkwritemute, running flash?
[23:10] <garymc> to a subnet ip on my server. Its a web interface and its a phone?
[23:11] <nocleader> marc_ the router should only be involved if you are going off network ... ex... if you need to leave your local subnet to go to internet for example
[23:11] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: try use htop instead of system monitor
[23:11] <thinkwritemute> B3rz3rk3 I use Chrome, so I would have noticed.
[23:11] <danbhfive> hyperstation: you can try the same command, replacing vlc with gnome-ppp.  If nothing shows up, you don't have the package, and you will have to download it again
[23:11] <garymc> the web ip is something like 81.123.345.34 and the subnet i want to connect to is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:11] <Zarrex> garymc: you mean vpn ?
[23:11] <garymc> possibly
[23:11] <garymc> how do i vpn?
[23:12] <hyperstation> actually i am not sure what package is not shown up on aptoncd....but i m sure it is more than just what i expected
[23:12] <Talon_> anybody else have this problem with gnome? I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[23:12] <Zarrex> garymc: client on phone config, whatever that is and a vpn server like openSwan (I think)
[23:12] <thinkwritemute> INstalling HTOP. I wish System Monitor wasn't such a crappy program.
[23:12] <garymc> in the short iam at home and need to get into a phones software thats on a Subnet of my server can i do this now?
[23:13] <archboxman> danbhfive: they can just do a locate???? pkg tar.gz if it exsists
[23:14] <danbhfive> archboxman: sorry, I dont follow
[23:15] <archboxman> danbhfive: thought they were looking for a pkg in the long list and could find it so use locate
[23:15] <Zarrex> garymc: tried to setup a private chat. not working.  I dunno what you have setup on your server to best help u
[23:15] <garymc> i just run LTSP server
[23:16] <danbhfive> archboxman: I dunno, the grep should have done the finding for them
[23:16] <hyperstation> excuse me....my aptoncd cannot backup all of the packages, how to solve it?
[23:16] <thinkwritemute> Ok, HTOP shows CPU1 at 50% and CP2 at 60%, but only maybe 10% usage in the list.
[23:16] <bensa> Hi. I am new here. Does anyone know who I can turn too when I need advice about removing packages?
[23:17] <Zarrex> garymc: do you have a thin client on yr phone?
[23:17] <obaid> bensa, what do you want to remove
[23:17] <archboxman> hyperstation: there compressed files in the first place how many are you trying to backup ???
[23:17] <bensa> Bluez-utils
[23:17]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves at everyone...
[23:18] <Zarrex> bensa: hi. what packages?
[23:18] <obaid> bensa, sudo apt-get remove bluez<tab> will complate
[23:18] <obaid> complete*
[23:18] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: you scrolled through all the processes?
[23:18] <bensa> I tried, that didn't work
[23:18] <nitemovz> hello all
[23:18] <bensa> can I post the error message here?
[23:18] <obaid> bensa, what error msg you got
[23:18] <hyperstation> so many times of course, but it just get the same result
[23:18] <obaid> no
[23:18] <nitemovz> Can anyone help me install makeinfo on my computer through the command line? I am working on a program that requires me to use makeinfo
[23:18] <erUSUL> !paste | bensa
[23:18] <obaid> bensa, paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[23:19] <Zarrex> bensa: have you tried the synaptic package manager (GUI)
[23:20] <thinkwritemute> recon69_lap: I have it sorted.
[23:20] <archboxman> hyperstation: this is a dvd you should be able to write 4 gigs of data to this disc... you selecting the write way to burn the data...???
[23:20] <thinkwritemute> What is console-kit-daemon and why is it running 15 times?
[23:20] <Zarrex> can anybody help regarding LVM2 read only problems
[23:21] <JenniferB> how do I reverse an update with SVN ? ( go back to a previous revision)
[23:21] <macman_> anyone mind helping me setup a printer .. the printer is on the network and it is not shared .. it has its on built in network
[23:21] <macman_> i have the ip and all
[23:21] <hyperstation> yes, because i want to use that repo to distribute it to someone who need it
[23:21] <simmerz> hi. I've added my ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo but when i do an aptitude update, it doesn't even get looked at. any ideas?
[23:22] <teknomage> macman  sure  what do you want to know?
[23:22] <macman_> teknomage: i want to connect ot and print to it
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, have you tried installing texinfo from the repo -- according to some people in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16734 it worked as a drop-in replacement for makeinfo
[23:22] <macman_> teknomage: its a esponda30f0 .. it shows up on the network as a workforce printer
[23:22] <nitemovz> textinfo?
[23:22] <gerrin> in search of internet browsers other than firefox, any suggestions?
[23:22] <nitemovz> I will give that a try
[23:22] <archboxman> hyperstation: what is it giving that you don't have permissions to folder or what?? what is the error msg???
[23:22] <bensa> yes, I want to upgrade, but it wouldn't let me, cause I have defetive packages, but when I try to remove it with sudo apt-get remove, I get the same error message, when I try to force install: error-url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369177/
[23:23] <alexmonkeyboy> Shouldn't it be /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo.list ?
[23:23] <teknomage> macman  just go to administration and select printer, then add
[23:23] <Talon_> Ubuntu 9.10 > Gnomes Start Menu > System > Preferences > Screensaver: If i go to power management, and set a time for my screen to shut off it never does.. and if I enable spin down hard disks when possible, it assumes my USB keyboard is a hard disk and disconnects it. only way to get the keyboard back is unplug n plug back in.
[23:23] <nitemovz> ZykoticK9: I get "E: Couldn't find package textinfo"
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, it's texinfo as i wrote it
[23:23] <macman_> teknomage: i don't see it
[23:23] <macman_> let me go see if it is on
[23:23] <hyperstation> no there is no error messages, it is just the program cannot backup all of the packages completely
[23:24] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: thats about all I know about processes, but if it's any help both my cpu's are at about 50% as well :)
[23:24] <nitemovz> thanks! I read it as "text"
[23:24]  * Psilocybin_Elf recommends Swiftfox, Kazehakase or Chrome...
[23:24] <nitemovz> It seems to be working!
[23:24] <teknomage> macman  you don't see main menu, places administration?
[23:24] <hyperstation> no there is no error messages, it is just the program which cannot backup all of the packages completely
[23:24] <archboxman> hyperstation: burn it 2 dvd
[23:24] <thinkwritemute> recon69_lap: Arrrgh, that's crazy! Oh well, meh. Thanks for the help.
[23:25] <archboxman> hyperstation: burn it 2 dvds ... problem solved
[23:25] <macman_> teknomage: i see the printer section i just don't see the printer .. by the way its not cups or anything .. like i stated aboce its a printer that is connect to the network via wifi
[23:25] <recon69_lap> thinkwritemute: might be a reporting glitch with multi cpu's.
[23:25] <teknomage> macman  it should still be showing up though, are you sure you have those ports open?
[23:25] <kyon-MTfr> I've made a mess with my sound configuration after a hardware failure, could someone help me please ?
[23:25] <git__> anyone have problem with ext4 on Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:26] <hyperstation> so how to do that?
[23:26] <git__> i kept getting data corruption random when doing large files
[23:26] <macman_> teknomage: other computers in the hose print to it inculding thi mac i use for work
[23:27] <archboxman> hyperstation: select half the list files and burn to disk... hyperstation are you trying to do this from the command line or in a gui???
[23:27] <hyperstation> from a gui
[23:27] <teknomage> macman if printing doesn't see it when it does a search there must be some network issue maybe?
[23:27] <hyperstation> aptoncd-->gui
[23:28] <SeaPhor> where can i go for help/support with apache???
[23:28] <archboxman> hyperstation: are you playing with the program or the folder location of all the files
[23:29] <teknomage> macman   it's pretty straightforward with most printers even networked
[23:29] <hyperstation> i dont know what u mean but i just use aptoncd as is..
[23:30] <hyperstation> without any extra command or something
[23:30] <archboxman> hyperstation: are you in folder with all the tar.gz files are located
[23:31] <simmerz> Hi, any reason why a debootstrapped ubuntu install wouldn't look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[23:31] <hyperstation> not yet...anyway, i download all of the packages using synaptic..
[23:31] <Flimm> How can you get RSS feed updates using Ubuntu's new notification system?
[23:31] <macman_> teknomage: it should find a network printer also even though this is linux and it uses cups ?
[23:32] <Milp> Hi there, can someone tell me why high amounts of blocked ips slow my server down? And how can i circumvent this problem?
[23:32] <teknomage> macman  yeah, i've never had any problems
[23:32] <zephead> does anybody have experience with external channel changing script using USB-UIRT in MythTV?
[23:32] <macman_> ok i have to see if it is connected .. let me reboot to windows and see if it finds it
[23:33] <Nooneshere> Bonjour. I have googled this already, but how do you untar something? If someone could help me? I am trying to install what pulse. I have the SH file done. This is all.
[23:33] <hyperstation> hello..
[23:34] <archboxman> hyperstation: no no no places > my computer > file system > open folders /var /lib /apt /cache select form the list half the files and right click burn to disc should work...
[23:34] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: install unp and do 'unp <filename>' instead of bothering with right flags with 'tar xczf etc'
[23:34] <Nooneshere> vcoolio, i will do
[23:34] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:35] <SuperDefenderX> !Eggdrop
[23:35] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:36] <chriszf> Hey, sometimes when I apt-get remove something, sometimes bash seems to think it still exists, eg: -bash: /usr/bin/gm: No such file or directory
[23:36] <Nooneshere> Okay i have it unpacked, now how to i install it?
[23:36] <hyperstation> anyway, the package in that folder is just as same as the package i just burned...it is not complete yet...
[23:36] <Gorash> Howdy people. I have a small webdav issue. My vhost info: http://pastebin.com/m4d37d521    -- the problem I face is that my webdav functions 100%. When I surf to my IP/webdav (it is an internal IP) i have to auth myself. Problem I have.. when I surf to my <IP> alone it displays the contents of the <IP>/webdav map and I dont want that :) Anyone can point me in the right direction!? Thanks
[23:36] <chriszf> That is, if I try to run it without path.
[23:36] <archboxman> hyperstation: that is why danbhfive gave you the location to the files so you could select the folder and burn the selected amount should have wrote down the path to the cache and gone to the folder selected half the packages and drag and droped the packages to the program aptoncd
[23:37] <Nooneshere> vcollio, its done, how do i install?\
[23:37] <xentek> what's the cleanest way to manage multiple memcached instances on ubuntu?
[23:37] <hyperstation> i am getting confused now hehe...so what should i do next?
[23:38] <kyon-MTfr> Hello, my sound card "disappeared" from the sound manager because of (long story) after a (now fixed) hardware failure, can someone help me please ?
[23:38] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:38] <kyon-MTfr> (ubuntu 9.10)
[23:38] <kaell> how can i play a sound from command line to test if it is working?
[23:38] <archboxman> hyperstation: what are you taking about did you finalize the burn on aptoncd or burn to disc... your confusing me...??? did you burn list to disc
[23:38] <iflema> kaell canberra-gtk-play --file=/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg
[23:38] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: depends on what kind of stuff is in there; read the README or INSTALL file, also use 'checkinstall' rather than 'make install'; what are you trying to install anyway?
[23:39] <kaell> cool, thanks
[23:39] <Tiggers> so,I uuhhh... accidently removed myself from the sudoers list, am I screwed?
[23:39] <hyperstation> about that one, i have burnt it well...
[23:39] <cdr_> i need help getting my video card to work i have a nvidia geforce4 440 go can someone plz help me and the distro im using is ubuntu 8.04lts
[23:39] <archboxman> hyperstation: or is it not letting you burn to disc because you have selected to many files delete half the list and burn to disc.. this is not rocket science you need to learn how to use the program
[23:40] <Nooneshere> vcoolio, i am trying to install whatpulse. www.whatpulse.org/download/ No install file.
[23:40] <danbhfive> cdr_: have you considered using the latest distro?
[23:40] <cdr_> danbhfive: its an older video card
[23:40] <kyon-MTfr> @Tiggers : there is a way, but it won't be easy
[23:40] <cdr_> danbhfive: i dont think the xorg would approve of it
[23:40] <hyperstation> yes i have burnt it...all of the package is on my dvd now
[23:41] <danbhfive> cdr_: why is that?  There are 3 nvidia drivers, one is the latest, and the other two are for the older cards
[23:41] <iWolf> Would I shrink my W7 partition, boot up the LiveCd, run the installer, etc; then I choose, "USE FREE SPACE" for the install (Dual-Boot)
[23:41] <V4mpire> cdr_, i should have thought it would im using ubuntu on an old card
[23:41] <Tiggers> kyon-MTfr, hows that?
[23:41] <archboxman> hyperstation: great sounds good stop complaining about having to do maintence tasks... every person has same takes ... even me..
[23:41] <danbhfive> cdr_: you should have System > Admin > hardware drivers
[23:41] <V4mpire> 1 that linux doesn't work to well as 3d hard to setup so haven't bothered to setup for 3d
[23:41] <cdr_> V4mpire: it works great with ubuntu 9.04
[23:42] <kyon-MTfr> Tiggers : you may log in as root via grub
[23:42] <cdr_> danbhfire: i tried went to blank screen
[23:42] <kyon-MTfr> I'm looking for my notes, because it's not easy to do
[23:42] <cdr_> i will try to upgrade then do you think it will mess it up
[23:42] <Tiggers> ok
[23:42] <danbhfive> I don't know.  You could just try out a livecd
[23:42] <V4mpire> cdr_,  i had that with mine just means u have to manual do the xorg.conf to get things done temp
[23:43] <cdr_> okay
[23:43] <Tiggers> what if I never set the root passwd explicitly?
[23:43] <cdr_> thanks
[23:43] <hyperstation> what should i do next? i think it is still uncomplete yet
[23:43] <cdr_> okay i will upgrade then
[23:43] <cdr_> thank you
[23:43] <hyperstation> anyway do u know where is the rest of the package?
[23:44] <V4mpire> Tiggers, then you wont need to login if you never set 1
[23:45] <Krai> hi
[23:45] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: it looks like a bin file, just 'sudo mv WhatPulse /usr/local/bin && sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/WhatPulse' then run it (my guess)
[23:45] <Krai> hiwhat is the file ext .linux ?
[23:45] <V4mpire> Tiggers, when u boot look on grub it says to press a certain key to get to boot menu or something u then add single to the boot line or something like that
[23:46] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: this means: copy the file to a convenient place and make it executable
[23:46] <Krai> there is a file whose extension .linux ?
[23:46] <Tiggers> ok
[23:46] <Nooneshere> vcoolio i just run that command. now what do i do?
[23:47] <V4mpire> Tiggers, here you go
[23:47] <V4mpire> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[23:47] <cAs-karmico> hi everyone
[23:47] <cAs-karmico> Ive got a serious question about conky...could anyone help me??
[23:47] <sarthor> Hi, How can i redirect all the my users traffice comming from <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to <IP_ADDRESS>:80 using iptables,(my thtpd running here) browsers traffice only.
[23:48] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: I don't know the app, so I don't know what it's supposed to do, but if it's some standalone thing you can now execute the command 'WhatPulse'
[23:49] <Nooneshere> Vcoolio It doesn't sadly
[23:49] <derek__> Hey I've been having a serious problem with 9.10. Whenever I open my laptop lid to come out of suspend mode, all I see is a black screen and a white cursor. What do I do?
[23:49] <cAs-karmico> Could anyoone help me with a conky problem???
[23:49] <Woolman> how do I change the computer name in Karmic?
[23:49] <VCoolio> Nooneshere: what is the error message?
[23:50] <Chr1z> In Ubuntu where how do I view and modify the list of services that automatically start during bootup?
[23:50] <Nooneshere> cannot find whatpulse
[23:50] <Nooneshere> I must go sorry
[23:50] <CShadowRun> Chr1z: system > preferences > startup applications
[23:50] <Chr1z> CShadowRun: thx
[23:50] <lmk> hey - is there a way i can block a specific usb input device at boot up ?
[23:50] <Woolman> Chr1z: Go to System>>Administration >> Services
[23:50] <dhmhtrhs> eiparxh kanenas ellhnas
[23:51] <derek__> Hey I've been having a serious problem with 9.10. Whenever I open my laptop lid to come out of suspend mode, all I see is a black screen and a white cursor. What do I do?
[23:51] <CShadowRun> Woolman: there is no services there :P
[23:52] <DavidJHeinrich> is it safe to remove a PCI card while the case is on?
[23:52] <Chr1z> CShadowRun: different in Kubuntu?
[23:52] <CShadowRun> Chr1z: dunno, this isn't the kubuntu channel though :P
[23:52] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: while the computer is powered up? heck no!
[23:52] <ascheel> Anybody here ever use DarkPlaces in Ubuntu and have any sound issues (no sound at all)?
[23:52] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   definitely not!
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> damn
[23:53] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: you'll give yourself or the computer an electric shock that neither of you is likely to take well
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> well, my old sound card from 2001 or 2002 doesn't work :-(
[23:53] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   yeah and probably fry the card or MB to
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> shows up in ALSA, but no sound
[23:53] <DavidJHeinrich> well, glad I didn't try it
[23:53] <zig_> Anyone have trouble with microphone & built-in ATI-chipset sound?
[23:53] <zig_> With Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:53] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   did you run alsamixer in terminal?
[23:54] <kyon-MTfr> I can't reinstall my sound card after it disappeared" from the sound manager because of (long story I can explain) after a hardware failure, can someone help me please ? (ubuntu 9.10)
[23:54] <DavidJHeinrich> teknomage: in the terminal, how do I change the sound card I'm modifying? I ave onboard sound, the plugged in creative SB PCI card, and the sound-chip on my radeon GPU
[23:55] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich   does it should show which device it's on?
[23:56] <Chr1z> CShadowRun: any way to control sevices starting during bootup from the command line?
[23:56] <DavidJHeinrich> its on he HDA Intel (the onboard sound)
[23:56] <kyon-MTfr> alsaconf just doesn't detect my card while lspci shows it
[23:56] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich i mean in the term it says chip xxx  ?
[23:56] <jose__> Hi, I'm having problems with printing to my usb printer. I always have to use "sudo". Any help?
[23:56] <DavidJHeinrich> chip is AD1989B
[23:57] <Random832> jose__; what port is it on?
[23:57] <Random832> also, are you using CUPS?
[23:57] <jose__> Random832, usblp0
[23:57] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich  and the card  shows up in sound preferences also?
[23:57] <Random832> ls -l /dev/usblp0
[23:58] <icek0ld> Anyone know of code or prog to combine Multiple wifi connections for greater Bandwidth?
[23:58] <DavidJHeinrich> teknomage: in GNOME Alsamixer, it shows up as "Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 4" (It's an old SB Live card)
[23:58] <Random832> also are you using cups?
[23:58] <jose__> Random832, It's installed on cups, but actually I'm printing using JavaPOS driver and I have tu run my POS software as root always to get it to print.
[23:58] <Random832> ok, ls -l /dev/usblp0
[23:58] <DavidJHeinrich> teknomage: and the oon-board shows up as "Analog Device AD1989B"
[23:59] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich  maybe it's loading the wrong driver?  run lsmod  in the term
[23:59] <derek__> Hey I've been having a serious problem with 9.10. Whenever I open my laptop lid to come out of suspend mode, all I see is a black screen and a white cursor. What do I do?
[23:59] <enrico__> can you give italian access
[23:59] <jose__> Random832, one moment please
[23:59] <hyperstation> excuse me...i have another problem...i cannot open root on 9.10...do u know the solution?
[23:59] <jose__> sorry
[23:59] <teknomage> DavidJHeinrich  sometimes old cards won't work with the new drivers


[00:27] <kklimonda> ScottK: subscribe ubuntu-release along with ubuntu-sponsors or can you take a look at bug 626704 now?
[00:27] <ScottK> kklimonda: Please subscribe the release team.
[00:32] <kklimonda> done
[00:52] <kamal> oops -- I accidentally let requestsync subscribe ubuntu-sponsors on bug #631190 ... would a kindly ubuntu-sponsor please unsubscribe that for me please?
[00:52] <Laney> done
[00:53] <kamal> ty Laney :-)
[00:53] <Laney> nps
[00:54] <kamal> oops again!  my FFe was approved (ridiculously quickly!) so now I'll re-subscribe ubuntu-sponsors ... doh!
[00:55] <kamal> ScottK: ^ or alternately, should I let you do that?
[00:55] <ScottK> kamal: No.  You can.
[00:55] <kamal> ok, thanks!
[00:55]  * ScottK saw it was there already when he approved the FFe.
[00:55]  * ScottK will strive to be less ridiculously quick in the future.
[00:56] <kklimonda> :)
[00:56] <kamal> ScottK: yeah, what up with that!?  ;-)   thanks Scott!
[01:02] <kklimonda> tumbleweed: wrt to gnome-python-desktop is anyone working on rebuilding it or should I prepare a no-change rebuild? Also hamster-applet hasn't failed in my local chroot so I haven't noticed it :/
[01:11] <tumbleweed> kklimonda: I'll file a debdiff for it, but I'm not a core dev
[01:16] <tumbleweed> kklimonda: bug 631204
[01:48] <micahg> tumbleweed: I'll have to submit the lintian changes as patches to debian, I don't want to increase our diff because of them
[01:54] <tumbleweed> micahg: I agree, I was just commenting on the amount of them...
[02:02] <micahg> tumbleweed: yeah, I'll try to pay more attention to those
[02:05] <tumbleweed> only the debian maintainer can ever really deal with them. sponsoring packages in ubuntu, you get used to ignoring things that really should be dealt with. I used to pay more attention to them when sponsoring than I do now
[02:06] <micahg> tumbleweed: well, I'm proposing the merge, so I should pay more attention :)
[02:07] <tumbleweed> yeah, try not to feel too guilty :)
[02:09]  * tumbleweed goes to bed. Why am I awake?
[04:17] <Laibsch> anybody here using pbuilder together with custom hooks?  I'm trying to use the $BUILDRESULT variable in one of my hooks, but for some reason the variable is empty or not set to any value.  The script itself is called just fine.  /usr/lib/pbuilder/hooks/B10-test: http://paste.debian.net/87862/
[04:18] <Laibsch> Output of that script from a pbuilder run is just "BUILDRESULT is set to ", so the variable seems to be not set to any value.  I thought it was one of the "official" variables that I could use freely?
[06:55]  * lucidfox sighs
[06:55]  * Rhonda sighs
[06:55] <lucidfox> this project I'm working on is exactly what's wrong with Java
[06:56] <lucidfox> The Java philosophy: instead of the cleanest possible implementation, use whichever technology has the coolest sounding name, even if you can't find legitimate ways to squeeze it into the program.
[07:55] <DktrKranz> AlanBell: wrt blogtk, it's not a "real" blocker. I just wanted to have a tarball including a full text of apache license
[07:58] <didrocks> Laney: I wasn't able to connect yesterday. Backlogging… apparently, it was epic :}
[08:05] <AlanBell> DktrKranz: thanks, I think I will try to contact the author
[08:07] <AlanBell> DktrKranz: so it is OK in the bzr repo, just needs a new tarball release right? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jayreding/blogtk/devel/annotate/head:/LICENSE
[08:08] <DktrKranz> AlanBell: it's just me who is picky, it should be fine packaging 2.0 as well
[08:11] <AlanBell> ok, so what are the next steps, anything I can do?
[08:11]  * AlanBell is not a motu or DD
[08:14] <dholbach> good morning
[08:52] <Laney> didrocks: was rather, but I believe all the pieces are ~ready, depending on what you want to do
[08:52] <didrocks> Laney: I don't see the gtk-bean binding
[08:52] <didrocks> Laney: in any case, first is to get everything ready in universe
[08:52] <Laney> it's depwait
[08:53] <didrocks> Laney: and banshee? depwait too, needs merging?
[08:53] <Laney> first we need to upload libgpod to main
[08:53] <Laney> that's only available in git
[08:54]  * didrocks looks for rdepends
[08:55] <didrocks> Laney: can we move the discussion in ~1h about libgpod to #ubuntu-desktop? (need seb128 to ack the update or not)
[08:55] <didrocks> as it rdepends on both amarok and rhythmbox-plugins
[08:55] <Laney> ok then
[08:56] <didrocks> thanks :)
[08:56] <Laney> in the meantime if you could get gudev and gio binary NEWed that will let beans build
[09:00] <didrocks> Laney: right now, only seb128 is available and I prefer to not disturb him before we talk about libgpod (hundreds of emails on Monday morning to catch up) and I didn't find any other aa
[09:03] <persia> The primary archive-admin-of-the-day for today is in UTC-7, which means a bit of a wait for "Monday morning", unfortuantely for those needing AA action.
[09:04] <micahg> persia: US is a holiday today
[09:04] <persia> Oh, even better :)
[09:09] <bilalakhtar> Thanks tumbleweed for the upload!
[09:12] <Rhonda> tumbleweed? The one from today's xkcd?
[09:15] <bilalakhtar> Rhonda: tumbleweed -> Stefano Rivera's nickname, over here
[09:15]  * bilalakhtar notices that some tumbleweed it lying outside his door
[09:16] <didrocks> Laney: gio is already synced, right?
[09:16] <didrocks> Laney: do you have a bug number for gudev
[09:17] <didrocks> Laney: gudev is done too, in fact
[09:18] <bilalakhtar> How does one get a nick 'Disconnected by services'?
[09:25] <AnAnt> Hello
[09:48] <huats> morning
[10:16] <bilalakhtar> Buon giorno, BlackZ !
[10:18] <BlackZ> hi bilalakhtar
[11:32] <OwaisL> hello friends. Yesterday, I uploaded my app to REVU. Got some errors and took care of them as RainCT told me to. Now only one warning remains that's Standards-Version.
[11:32] <OwaisL> RainCT told me to use Standards-Version: 3.9.1 and I did.
[11:33] <OwaisL> but lintian is not happy about it. Can it be ignored or what
[11:33] <OwaisL> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/gmailwatcher-1009061227/lintian
[11:33] <OwaisL> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gmailwatcher
[11:41] <Rhonda> \o/ cjwatson
[11:46] <OwaisL> Ok. it's done. Waiting for review now. Anyone got time? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gmailwatcher
[11:48] <nigelb> OwaisL: lintian version on revu is a bit old, so don't worry about it
[11:48] <nigelb> if you can run a lintian check locally, that would be great
[11:49] <nigelb> I would highly encourage you to first push the package to debian and then sync to ubuntu
[11:49] <OwaisL> nigelb: OK. What should I put in the control file
[11:50] <OwaisL> nigelb: It is ubuntu specific. Uses Messaging-Menu etc.
[11:50] <nigelb> OwaisL: Ah!
[11:50] <nigelb> In that case you just need review and ack from motu :)
[11:50] <nigelb> motu et al
[11:50] <OwaisL> nigelb: cool.
[11:51] <OwaisL> nigelb: BTW you are from Bangaloru. right?
[11:51] <nigelb> yep
[11:51] <OwaisL> nigelb: I'm from Srinagar/Pune.
[11:51] <nigelb> whoo, cool
[11:51] <OwaisL> nigelb: from srinagar. studying in pune.
[11:51] <OwaisL> :)
[11:52] <nigelb> :)
[11:53] <OwaisL> so nigelb, should I put 3.8.4 or 3.9.1 in debian/control
[11:53] <nigelb> newer would be preferred
[11:54] <micahg> OwaisL: you need to make sure the package is at whatever standards version you put in debian/control
[11:54] <nigelb> OwaisL: why aren't you using debhelper 7 awesomeness yet?
[11:55] <OwaisL> nigelb: I don't actually know any of this yet. haven't packaged anything. Actually the app is built using quickly. I just edited the files to make it good for REVU.
[11:55] <nigelb> Ah.
[11:56] <persia> With newer enhancements in python integration with dh7, someone probably ought either port quickly to py-stdeb, or port python-distutils-extra to use dh7
[11:56] <nigelb> At least worthy of a bug in quickly if it isn't already there.
[11:57] <OwaisL> will file it.
[11:59] <persia> nigelb, It's not quickly, really.
[12:00] <persia> One needs to make sure that the underlying tools do the right thing.  Then either quickly gets it automatically, *OR* one can file a bug against quickly to switch tools.
[12:01] <nigelb> persia: Oh.  I was under the mistaken assumption that quickly made the packaging.  Didn't realize that quickly just used the tools already available.
[12:01] <nigelb> OwaisL: If you want to try dh7, http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0
[12:01]  * nigelb hopes that was the right link
[12:01] <persia> nigelb, Nope.  Uses python-distutils-extra right now.
[12:01] <micahg> nigelb: dh7 and source format 3 are 2 different things
[12:02] <nigelb> micahg: aha, I was having that sinking feeling
[12:03] <nigelb> micahg: dh7 is detailed on the new maintainer guide?
[12:03] <micahg> nigelb: idk offhand
[12:03] <persia> maco recently had a great blog post including a quick guide to a dh7 package
[12:04] <nigelb> http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-packaging-new-software-hard.html
[12:05] <Laney> "No, if you have a good upstream and you are just packaging an application"
[12:06] <nigelb> Laney: She answered that :)
[12:06] <Laney> sure
[12:06] <nigelb> VCS packaging though becomes marginally tougher
[12:07]  * nigelb spent 1 day figuring out why I got build failure until somone told me bzr commit :D
[12:16] <OwaisL> So can anyone explain to me how this REVU actually works?
[12:39] <persia> OwaisL: Lots of people upload stuff, some people review it.  If a package gets reviewed by a couple MOTU, one of them usually uploads it.
[12:40] <persia> We generally trend towards a policy of peer-review, so that we like to have two developers approve a new package.
[14:09] <bilalakhtar> persia: around?
[14:15] <bilalakhtar> no need then , leave it
[14:27]  * persia again considers installing a vocal contentless ping script
[15:49] <Laibsch> anybody here using pbuilder together with custom hooks?  I'm trying to use the $BUILDRESULT variable in one of my hooks, but for some reason the variable is empty or not set to any value.  The script itself is called just fine.  /usr/lib/pbuilder/hooks/B10-test: http://paste.debian.net/87862/
[15:49] <Laibsch> Output of that script from a pbuilder run is just "BUILDRESULT is set to ", so the variable seems to be not set to any value.  I thought it was one of the "official" variables that I could use freely? Actually, I have specified my what BUILDRESULT should be in /etc/pbuilderrc and that's where the resulting debs are indeed put.
[16:36] <highvoltage> tumbleweed: you've probably already seen this: http://xkcd.com/789/
[16:45] <nigelb> highvoltage: hahahah
[16:46] <geser> Laibsch: I'd have to look at the pbuilder code to be sure, but my guess is that the hooks are run after the chroot (inside the pbuilder) while BUILDRESULT is only defined outside
[16:47] <Laibsch> geser: do you have an idea how I can cd to the $BUILDRESULT directory and run dpkg-scanpackages?  That is what I'm trying to do.
[16:47] <Laibsch> without hardwiring the position of $BUILDRESULT into the script
[16:47] <Laibsch> (which is what I am currently doing)
[16:56] <geser> sorry no idea, only an ugly one: create your own wrapper around pbuilder(-dist) which regenerates the hook with the correct value and then calls the original pbuilder(-dist)
[17:10] <olopez> hello , i read that ubuntu work with sun4v in ldom over solaris 10 and SPARC with coolthreads T2
[17:12] <olopez> we are trying to boot it and it doesnt detect vdisk
[17:13] <olopez> anyone have experience with this kind of experience
[17:30] <shadeslayer> olopez: maybe #ubuntu+1 will answer you better ( if on maverick ) or #ubuntu for lucid support
[17:30] <shadeslayer> or if this is a server question, #ubuntu-sever
[17:30] <olopez> shadeslayer: ok thanks :)
[20:05] <funkyHat> Can someone review https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/630615 ? (it's in main). It's a no change rebuild.