[01:38] <Deepfriedice> Hey All!
[01:39] <Deepfriedice> I'm going to ask here because I'm not sure where this could go.
[01:40] <Deepfriedice> I'm trying to get nvidia-experimental-304 working on a Xubuntu 12.04 laptop.
[01:40] <Deepfriedice> But X dies on boot up.
[01:41] <Deepfriedice> How would I go about getting to the bottem of this?
[01:43] <well_laid_lawn> Deepfriedice:  have you checked the X log?
[01:43] <Deepfriedice> No...
[01:43] <Deepfriedice> ah
[01:44] <Deepfriedice> I presume Xorg.0.log is the newest log file?
[01:44] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[01:46] <Deepfriedice>  @24.539 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initalize thr NVIDIA kernal module. Please see the system's kernal log of .....
[01:46] <Deepfriedice> can't be bothered typeing all that
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> did you reboot after installing the driver/
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> there's pastes for not typing stuffs
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[01:48] <Deepfriedice> yeah, the driver does nothing untill the reboot, and X just doesn't go after it.
[01:50] <Deepfriedice> well_laid_lawn:  I just checked /var/log/kern.log , there's nothing weird in there.
[01:51] <Deepfriedice> wait
[01:51] <well_laid_lawn> how old's the vid card, nvidia has two versions of the drivers now
[01:51] <Deepfriedice> nope, nothing odd
[01:51] <Deepfriedice> umm
[01:52] <Deepfriedice> old
[01:52] <well_laid_lawn> check the wiki
[01:52] <well_laid_lawn> !nvidia
[01:52] <Deepfriedice> it's a... G98 [GeForce 9300 GS]
[01:53] <Deepfriedice> according to lspci  (I know very little about graphics cards)
[01:53] <well_laid_lawn> that should use the 304 driver afaik
[01:56] <joe> I'm having issues with applications crashing very often, generally after the screenlock occurs from being idle for a while. Is this common or should I just figure that it's due to old hardware? Or> is there some kind of debug that needs to be ran?
[01:58] <Deepfriedice> well_laid_lawn: I can't find anything wrong in kern.log ,  are there any other places to look?
[02:21] <Deepfriedice> What would happen if say, some hypothetical person who is not me ran out of disk space while installing a nvidia driver?
[02:27] <Deepfriedice> ANYONE: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-35-generic     no space left on device
[02:28] <Deepfriedice> ANYONE help?
[02:39] <Deepfriedice> HELP?
[02:40] <Deepfriedice> I've cleared almost 3GB of stuff off my hard drive, but I still get initramfs-tools complaining about the lack of space!
[02:40] <Deepfriedice> and with /boot/ fucked up, I'm not confident to reboot.
[02:42] <holstein> Deepfriedice: try and watch the language
[02:42]  * holstein looking
[02:42] <holstein> Deepfriedice: is the disk full?
[02:43] <holstein> Deepfriedice: maybe just boot another kernel, and run "sudo apt-get udpate" in a terminal and see what the errors are
[02:44] <Deepfriedice> holstein: Sorry about the language.
[02:44] <holstein> Deepfriedice: no worries.. any errors there?
[02:45] <Deepfriedice> holstein: this disk WAS full, but it shouldn't be now. And I can't run a pakage list update - I don't have networking
[02:46] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i would want to use a package manager to see what is broken
[02:46] <holstein> Deepfriedice: looks to me like you have broken packages
[02:46] <Deepfriedice> aptitude disagrees
[02:46] <holstein> Deepfriedice: then enjoy your completly fine system
[02:47] <holstein> Deepfriedice: can you get online with that box? and update the cache?
[02:47] <Deepfriedice> um, should I start at the beginning again, or was that a joke I missed?
[02:48] <Deepfriedice> I don't think I can get online, but I can try
[02:48] <holstein> Deepfriedice: feel free to start anywhere you feel relevant information might help me or one of the other volunteers assist you
[02:48] <Deepfriedice> okay.
[02:49] <Deepfriedice> I was trying to get the steam beat running on Xubuntu 12.04
[02:49] <holstein> Deepfriedice: what do i see? you installed a driver.. a kernel module, and the hard drive was full.. i would want to see that that gets reinstalled
[02:49] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i dont know what "steambeat" is.. but we can get that kernel error fixed
[02:49] <Deepfriedice> what, the driver or the whole system?
[02:49] <holstein> Deepfriedice: either
[02:49] <Deepfriedice> I still have the old nvidia driver
[02:50] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i would think if you would hook it up, and open synaptic,, and do "fix broken pacakges" you might just fix everything
[02:50] <Deepfriedice> if I can fix whatever is causeing apt-get remove to fail and run initramfs-tools
[02:50] <holstein> OR,, run sudo apt-get update in the terminal as suggested and see if there is any error outpu
[02:50] <Deepfriedice> I still don't have networking
[02:50] <holstein> what would i do? just reinstall and dont let my hard driver get full
[02:51] <Deepfriedice> yeah
[02:51] <Deepfriedice> Thats looking like a good option right now
[02:51] <holstein> that would take about 8 minutes.. whatever you need to do could take who knows how long to figure out what you did
[02:51] <Deepfriedice> still, If I can fix apt-get remove I could have this thing booting normal on the old kernal
[02:52] <holstein> yup.. if you dont have your data backedup , take this opportunity to do so, and reinstall.. think about imaging or backing up and be careful adding PPA's and/or kernel modules
[02:52] <holstein> Deepfriedice: sure.. i would get it online.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and report the error output and we can go from there
[02:52] <Deepfriedice> don't really need a backup, nothing important is on that laptop
[02:52] <Deepfriedice> okay
[02:53] <holstein> then blow it out and take the path of least resistance
[02:54] <Deepfriedice> holstein, I would, but that would break the Win install on there
[02:55] <Deepfriedice> and while re-installing Xubuntu is a trivial task, Vista isn't.
[02:55] <Deepfriedice> so, networking
[02:55] <holstein> Deepfriedice: well, take this as an opportunity to plan for that. when that hard drive fais it will break windows on there
[02:56] <holstein> Deepfriedice: you can blow out ubuntu and not mess up windoes
[02:56] <Deepfriedice> I tough it was the other way round...
[02:56] <Deepfriedice> hmm
[02:56] <holstein> Deepfriedice: you open a gparted from a live CD.. remove the linux partitions.. start an installer, and use the empty space to install xubntu to
[02:57] <holstein> Deepfriedice: when you install windows on the remaining space on a linux system, it installs a bootloader that assumes its the only OS
[02:57] <holstein> Deepfriedice: xubuntu will install grub again, which will find windows, and the xubuntu install
[02:58] <Deepfriedice> If I'm going to do that, I may as well reboot and see if the fixes the "no space on device" errors
[02:58] <holstein> Deepfriedice: maybe you need more space on the device
[02:58] <Deepfriedice> I have 2.8GB free right now
[02:58] <holstein> maybe you should back up your data, and shrink the ntfs partition down a bit more to give more room for linux
[02:59] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i would want 6gb's minimum
[02:59] <holstein> 10 would be ideal..
[02:59] <Deepfriedice> what free?
[02:59] <holstein> Deepfriedice: total
[02:59] <holstein> Deepfriedice: its not a matter of what you have free now.. its a matter of what wasnt free when you didnt have enough space for package management
[03:00] <Deepfriedice> hmm
[03:00] <Deepfriedice> wait, It just booted up properly
[03:01] <holstein> sure.. with an older kernel? thats what i would do
[03:01] <holstein> boot an earlier kernel.. run sudo apt-get update.. troubleshoot any errors
[03:01] <Deepfriedice> nope, same kernal
[03:01] <Deepfriedice> I have no idea how, but it seems semi-okay
[03:02] <holstein> well, like i said, if nothing is wrong, just enjoy it
[03:03] <Deepfriedice> well, it's not quite right
[03:03] <holstein> sure.. which gets back to either troubleshooting the errors, or reinstalling
[03:04] <Deepfriedice> hang on
[03:04] <Deepfriedice> update-initramfs just re-gened initrd
[03:05] <holstein> if it were me, i would want to reinstall whatever i was installing when it ran out of space
[03:06] <holstein> steam is officially supported on ubuntu 12.04
[03:06] <Deepfriedice> really?
[03:06] <Deepfriedice> huh
[03:06] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve is what i would reference
[03:06] <holstein> Deepfriedice: you can run it on 12.10, ive heard, but if you are having issues.. since we cant support steam here
[03:07] <Deepfriedice> BRB
[03:12] <Deepfriedice> rebooting
[03:13] <Deepfriedice> It works
[03:13] <Deepfriedice> my clock got set to date-time mode, but otherwise it works
[03:14] <Deepfriedice> and steam seem st work as well
[03:16] <Deepfriedice> holstein: thank you very much for the help, and I'll shift my partitions around to get some more space.
[03:18] <holstein> Deepfriedice: enjoy!
[03:18] <Deepfriedice> holstein: will do.
[04:05] <bryong> Hello can anyone help me install a wireless card on Ubuntu, I am new to this and am having issues
[04:05] <bryong> Please
[04:05] <holstein> bryong: maybe... do you know what it is? are you online with the machine now via a wired connection? can you connect via wired if not?
[04:06] <bryong> It is a WF-2117 wireless card and yes I have a wired connection
[04:07] <bryong> And I am on that machine via wired
[04:11] <holstein> bryong: can you return that card?
[04:11] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2019516 might help.. i woud just try a windows driver with ndis wrapper
[04:12] <bryong> Yes, but it a 30 min drive each way to the store and the next one up is 20 $ more and for me that allot so I am hoping to make use of it :)
[04:12] <holstein> bryong: i would say, that would be well worth the $20 and the 30 minutes
[04:12] <holstein> bryong: and do your research *before* buying hardware
[04:13] <bryong> it deisigned for a windows machine but my older brother got mad and refused to install windows 7 so now I am trying to install Ubuntu.
[04:14] <holstein> bryong: that being said, i would try an XP driver with ndisgtk , or try the above post.
[04:15] <holstein> bryong: mad? its not "designed" for any machine.. its a device and the manufacturer has created a driver for windows and not for linux
[04:15] <bryong> Also -I hand made this computer for my little brother. And I went all out and got him what I consider a great graphics card and it not working either.
[04:15] <holstein> bryong: you can ask the manufacturer to create a driver for linux just as they have for windows but they likely wont if they havent alreayd
[04:15] <holstein> bryong: sure.. same with the graphics
[04:16] <holstein> bryong: if you want to run linux, its a good idea to get supported hardware
[04:16] <bryong> :( there nothing I can do?
[04:16] <holstein> bryong: i like resellers like system76.. even if you dont by the hardware there, you can get an idea of what will work
[04:16] <bryong> for the graphics card?
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: i search and search and google and read and test and save reciepts when i buy hardware for linux
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: there is *always* something to do with FOSS
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: but either we are allowed to support the hardware, or not
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: the drivers for your deivces are not in windows either.. nor apples OSX
[04:17] <bryong> What about a GeForce graphics card?
[04:18] <holstein> bryong: you are expecting a lot for linux.. and usually we can support all hardare, but not always
[04:18] <holstein> bryong: i have both nvidia and ati cards that work well, but it really depends on the model
[04:19] <holstein> bryong: intel is typically well supported out of the box.. but support for ati and nvidia are getting better since steam is here for linux
[04:19] <holstein> !ati | bryong
[04:19] <holstein> if you havent tried the proprietary driver for your hardare, try that bryong
[04:19] <bryong> Okay thank you.
[04:19] <holstein> bryong: as for the wifi card, you can try ndiswrapper as i suggested above with a windows driver
[04:20] <holstein> bryong: or read the post from the forum i linked with another user with that hardware
[04:20] <bryong> How do I do that?
[04:20] <bryong> what ndiswrapper?
[04:21] <holstein> bryong: my using the application i suggested... ndisgtk
[04:21] <holstein> and the windows XP driver as i suggested above
[04:21] <bryong> Well I can look into all the stuff you have shown me thank you.
[04:22] <holstein> bryong: i would literally install the application above.. ndisgtk.. then use it to point to the windows .ini file
[04:22] <holstein> ndisgtk is a GUI application that points ndiswrapper to a windows driver for your wifi device
[04:23] <bryong> Okay will do.
[04:23] <holstein> i suggest trying the windows driver for xp 32bit... if its in a blob like a .zip or an .exe, you'll have to get it out. the .ini file
[04:24] <bryong> how do you get the .ini file?
[04:24] <holstein> bryong: sometimes, thats what you get
[04:25] <holstein> bryong: it depends on the vendor and where you get those drivers
[04:25] <holstein> bryong: im just telling you what the ndisgtk application needs, so you dont point it to a file named "driver.exe" and think its broken
[04:25] <holstein> you need the actual driver.. the *.ini file
[04:26] <bryong> cd and I am installing the cd reader into my computer riught now
[04:26] <holstein> bryong: you should be able to get that online if you'd like to check right now
[04:27] <bryong> sure it says it website is www,netis-systems.com
[04:27] <bryong> on the cd
[04:27] <holstein> bryong: so, go to that site, download the xp driver, get the *.ini and give it to ndisgtk... or wait til you can read the cd
[04:28] <bryong> OK doing that right now
[04:29] <bryong> got a exe file
[04:30] <holstein> sure.. so you an open that from a windows box, or run that in wine and get the files to extract.. or try just extracting them
[04:30] <holstein> OR return it, spend the $20, and enjoy supported hardware
[04:34] <bryong> I am installing wine :()
[04:34] <bryong> :) *
[04:38] <bryong> Okay it will simulate the .exe file in wine but it won't let me open the file and pull files out of the .exe
[04:40] <holstein> bryong: depends on what "it" is.. its just a file though, try ad extract it
[04:40] <holstein> and*
[04:41] <bryong> I try to open the .exe with file manager and
[04:41] <bryong> Archive:  /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe
[04:41] <bryong> [/home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe]
[04:41] <bryong>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[04:41] <bryong>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[04:41] <bryong>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[04:41] <bryong>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[04:41] <bryong> zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe or
[04:41] <bryong>           /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.zip, and cannot find /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.ZIP, period.
[04:41] <bryong> I get this error message
[04:41] <holstein> !paste | bryong
[04:42] <holstein> i usually run in a terminal "wine /path/to/*.exe"
[04:42] <holstein> sometimes, i just right click them and see if they extract
[04:42] <holstein> bryong: you can always email the vendor and ask for the *.dll file
[04:43] <bryong> this
[04:43] <bryong> Okay well thank you very much for the help I am going to go to bed.
[04:43] <bryong> by
[04:44] <bryong> Happy new year by the way
[04:44] <holstein> bryong: cheers
[06:12] <far3> I'm liking this linux, I was forced to switch over when I ereased my win7 partition by accident haha
[09:46] <GrandCouillon> Hello guys ! Even if I've disabled the screensaver it continues to be active ... Searching the net around seems to indicate that I am alone. Any clue ?
[10:10] <Ironsight> Anyone had any issues dual booting windows 8 and xubuntu?
[10:12] <TheSheep> Ironsight: afaik windows 8 will not boot from a non-secure uefi bios, and xubuntu won't boot from a secure one
[10:12] <TheSheep> Ironsight: but my information may be outdated
[10:12] <Ironsight> man :(
[10:13] <Ironsight> I don't even know what bios I'm rocking in this asus g75 :/
[10:13] <TheSheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[10:16] <Ironsight> TheSheep, wow, thanks man :D
[11:52] <olbi> hello
[11:52] <olbi> some1 could tell me how I could change the xubuntu slideshow files and than add this to my own remix?
[12:17] <Sybille> hi :)
[12:17] <bjaniolsen> Hi, just joined
[12:17] <Sybille> I have a big problem with an eeepc 1015 cx and xubuntu 12.04
[12:18] <Sybille> I cannot have other display than 800x600
[12:18] <bjaniolsen> Is it a driver problem?
[12:18] <Sybille> There is a cedar view drier but when I download it
[12:18] <Sybille> nothing works anymore
[12:19] <bjaniolsen> I'm a newbii on driver problems, sorry.
[12:19] <Sybille> thanks :)
[12:25] <olbi> hmm, I was using build in drivers with Xubuntu 11.10 and all was good. I have 1024x600 which is normal resolution
[12:25] <Sybille> what do you mean, what did you ?
[12:27] <wonderworld> hi, i am on xubuntu 12.10 and want to restart my xserver by keystroke. it used to work with CTRL-ALT-SYSreq-K but this seems to be disabled in 12.10
[12:28] <TheSheep> wonderworld: you can enable it
[12:28] <TheSheep> wonderworld: with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'
[12:29] <wonderworld> hey thanks
[12:30] <wonderworld> this worked :) nice
[15:53] <xubuntu538> I don't remember setting any password during setup, but now when I try and install a program, I'm being asked for authentication
[18:14] <march> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVd_VLO9xcc
[18:34] <march> Ooops - posted on the wrong channel. Sorry.
[18:41] <viszu> Hi, after upgrading xfce4-terminal to ver 0.6.0 today my terminal is not working I get: *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' error, any known way how to fix it ?
[19:05] <holstein> viszu: how did you upgrade? in the repos?
[19:06] <viszu> holsen: with Software Updater, but nvm I just fixed it
[19:07] <viszu> "Reset compatibility options to defaults" in compatibility menu of xfce4-terminal fixed it
[19:07] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/140011 is what i would reference if reinstalling doesnt fix
[19:08] <viszu> I was reading that, and my system already had those links
[19:10] <viszu> it breaks when I change $TERM setting to "xterm-256color" but it works with "xterm"


[00:13] <keithzg[m]> How might I figure out why the apparmor service isn't starting on a system? I checked journalctl and all it says is fewer error messages than from before it stopped working as it just seems to hang partway through (forever, meaning I cannot boot this *buntu system without disabling apparmor, annoyingly).
[00:17] <sarnold> you could try running apparmor_parser --replace /etc/apparmor.d  -- see if that spits out errors
[00:18] <sarnold> the full path through systemd's service files through the init script functions is pretty gross, but this is an easy one-liner that should come close
[00:32] <keithzg[m]> sarnold: hmm that just seems to spit out the same few lines logged in the journal, and then like when booting nothing further appears to happen essentially indefinitely
[00:36] <sarnold> keithzg[m]: oh very weird :( you could try something like  : for f in /etc/apparmor.d/* ; do if [ -f $f ] ; then apparmor_parser --replace $f ; else echo skipping $f ; fi ; done
[00:36] <sarnold> i'm hoping that will help you find a specific profile that is giving the parser trouble
[04:00] <keithzg[m]> Hmm, got back to this and it spits out the skipping lines for each of these in order: abi, abstractions, disable, force-complain, local. It then just sits there forever a la before. The next entry in alphabetical order is lsb_release, but the next folder is rsynclog.d, which only contains a README file.
[05:19] <rfm> keithzg[m], if I had weird stuff like that going on the first thing I would do is boot a live cd and run fsck on the thing...\]
[05:44] <keithzg> rfm: Full disclosure, this is a home system that first exhibited this back in *April*; at that point I just outright uninstalled apparmor and meant to get back to it but never did, and was reminded of it today because I rebooted and apparently some updates I had applied or something else I'd installed pulled apparmor back in (this time I merely disabled the service). In the intervening months, I outright replaced the entire drive this
[05:44] <keithzg> install is on!
[05:56] <rfm> keithzg, if you just imaged the new drive from the old, it would not have fixed any crosslinked files, etc.  I suspect you are in "save what you can and wipe/reinstall" territory...
[05:58] <keithzg> rfm: Everyone always wants to wipe, I want to understand what the actual problem is! Anyways my point was I've definitely fsck'd since then, and then some. (I remember doing it as a precaution after the move.)
[05:58] <keithzg> For my part, I'm fine just not having apparmor installed. But I really wanna know *what* is going wrong, if at all possible.
[06:12] <rfm> keithzg, if your serious about it, the next step is to run the apparmor_parser under strace and see what strange loop it has got to in the end.
[06:16] <rfm> keithzg, unless you'd rather root around for the apparmor_parser source, recompile with debug syms, and run it under a debugger..  been a long time since I had to do stuff like that (and I was getting paid)
[06:17] <keithzg> rfm: Good point; I'm bad at reading strace but it should at least spit out *something* instead of just tightlipped silence, heh
[06:19] <keithzg> Hmm from that I see it's actually hung up on the usr.bin.tcpdump entry; removing that to see what happens it goes one further in alphabetical order and then stops there too...
[06:22] <rfm> keithzg, so if you want to try to bisect this, maybe the one before usr.bin.tcpdump has some poison, and removing that might change the behavior. Once you've found the entry that causes the problem you could try tracing it, or comparing to a fresh system..
[06:24] <rfm> and I'm off to bed...
[06:24] <keithzg> rfm: G'night!
[06:24] <keithzg> Removing the one before (which happens to be usr.bin.man) doesn't change anything, but yeah it seems weird if each and every one after is somehow the problem, hmm.
[06:25] <keithzg> Although I did just run into one that *didn't* hold things up, oho (usr.sbin.cups-browsed as it happens)
[06:33] <keithzg> Wellll I think I'm barking up the wrong tree there as I've checked and the service actually starts just fine even if I restore everything I was testing tearing out of /etc/apparmor.d, so whatever apparmor's problem is it's somehow only a problem on boot?
[06:34] <keithzg> (I phrased that awkwardly, what I mean is that with no config changes but already having booted with the apparmor service disabled, manually starting the apparmor service appears to succeed.)
[20:15] <habys> Regarding autoinstall; if the installer crashes you can test commands in the install environment via local console with `curtin in-target --target /target cmd`. Running the same thing fails over SSH, is there a way to invoke curtin via SSH?
[20:18] <dbungert> habys: interesting.  in your working case, is that in the debug shell that subiquity offers to create?  or a vt switch?
[20:19] <habys> these are all remote machines, but I can access this "console" via remote VGA (or whatever video standard)
[20:19] <habys> if it were a desktop then, yeah, the screen and keyboard
[20:20] <dbungert> must be some environment difference.  if you're really motivated I've got a terrible script lying around
[20:21] <dbungert> habys: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kQg5sMrWzR/ - depending on the subiquity snap you may need to hack it for python3.10 instead of py3.8
[20:21] <habys> I assume it's running in some kind of container.. Sorry really ignorant here. The `curtin` command claims it's not installed if executed over SSH. I would love to see any kind of script as it may help me figure out how this thing works.
[20:22] <dbungert> really the right answer is to fix the subiquity snap to let direct curtin invocation be a thing
[20:22] <habys> that would be really convenient
[20:23] <habys> this script looks very straightforward, let me see if I can get it working
[20:24] <habys> that totally works. I guess it's mainly the $PATH that was tricking me
[20:24] <habys> thank you!
[20:24] <dbungert> :) glad it helps, thanks for the nudge to fix this
[20:25] <habys> I can open a bug if you want
[20:26] <habys> seems like not a hard fix, maybe some dot file updates or something
[20:27] <dbungert> yea, some enviornment variable tweak or similar is all that should be needed
[20:27] <habys> In the mean time I can set these values with my own early_commands
[20:52] <habys> spoke too soon. everything I try to run is `command not found`. Trying /bin/bash and apt etc
[20:55] <dbungert> habys: early commands or late commands?  in early commands, the target is not populated yet.
[22:06] <habys> oh. obviously :S


[00:29] <rww> ugh, BT is a mess because of the recent netsplits
[00:29] <rww> pages and pages of nonsense from hobana
[00:32] <Flannel> we should obviously just ban hobana!
[00:32] <rww> we should obviously just CS CLEAR the banlist
[00:32] <Flannel> You would say that!
[00:32] <rww> mhm
[00:32] <rww> but yeah, I'm testing a thing now and will be doing some cleanup later if it works
[00:58] <rww> ugh, commenting in BT doesn't set ban duration. oh well
[01:07] <rww> 01:07:14 <ubottu> Failed to set duration time on 29473 (bans not in sync)
[01:07] <rww> that's an understatement.
[01:09] <rww> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:09] <rww> it failed to sync some bans because they lost their forwards back when that was a thing, so they're not removable now without a bunch of spamminess, I see...
[02:08] <rww> tsimpson: fixed?
[02:09] <tsimpson> rww: seems like it
[02:15] <knome> Unit193, 05:05 » Tm_T<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read  error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed  or bad record mac]
[02:16] <knome> Unit193, helpful?
[02:16] <Unit193> My most interesting one was: Irssi: warning SSL read error: server closed connection unexpectedly
[03:21] <rww> okays, enough o' this
 is there  a tool with motion detection for a ip webcam available taking rtsp streams?
[04:47] <bazhang> fnordistus
[04:49] <Flannel> "motion"
[04:50] <Flannel> (is that tool)
[04:51] <bazhang> thanks Flannel
[04:52] <Flannel> At least, probably.  I know it does 2/3s of those things, and have no knowledge of the third, but it'll likely.
[05:42] <rww> Somebody else sanitycheck http://paste.ubuntu.com/7253637/ before I do it, please.
[05:43] <rww> Theoretically, all the numbers there are banids for #ubuntu bans that aren't currently set.
[05:44] <rww> and since I know none of you are going to actually volunteer to do that...
[05:45] <Corey> Let's see.
[05:45] <Corey> Do it!
[05:45] <rww> Tm_Tr, elky, bazhang: I nominate you
[05:45] <Corey> rww: Worst case you remove a ban.
[05:45] <Corey> rww: If it's for someone egregious, reset it later.
[05:45] <rww> Corey: nah, worst case Bantracker thinks a ban isn't set that is
[05:45] <Corey> Not the end of the world. :-)
[05:45] <rww> so even less bad
[05:46] <elky> what corey said
[05:46] <Flannel> rww: Yep.  Those are all numbers.
[05:46] <rww> ( Tm_Tr needs to atone for earlier, elky probably needs to atone for something, and bazhang is bazhang)
[05:46] <jussi> rww: nike.
[05:46] <elky> adidas?
[05:46] <elky> reebok?
[05:46] <Corey> jussi: Oh, you'r eback.
[05:46] <jussi> no... "Just do it" (Nike)
[05:46] <Corey> And only one of you. How lovely.
[05:47] <rww> fine
[05:47] <rww> i'm blaming Corey and jussi when this breaks everything
[05:47] <Corey> Yay!
[05:47] <jussi> Corey: I am not Tm_Tr
[05:47]  * Corey watches rww flood off
[05:49]  * tsimpson watches the log fill with 'supybot clearban called by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:49] <elky> < rww> lol i'm currently lagged out
[05:49] <rww> done!
[05:49] <rww> tsimpson: I am impressed at how not slow that was
[05:50] <elky> i'm impressed that you got such perfectly even division with that mess of numbers
[05:50] <elky> (all the lines are the same length)
[05:50] <rww> elky: perl script, put 50 on a line
[05:50] <elky> yes, but there was exactly the right number for that
[05:51] <tsimpson> rww: looking at the implementation, so am I
[05:51] <rww> oh lol, I have more to remove
[05:51] <rww> I forgot to account for duplicates
[05:59] <rww> alrighty, spam time again
[05:59] <jussi> quick, ban him, he is spamming!
[05:59] <jussi> :P
[06:02] <rww> oh, hrm, i forgot it would send one error per line for already removed bans
[06:02] <rww> *this* might take a while
[06:02] <jussi> hehe
[06:03]  * jussi pats ubottu
[06:03] <elky> !ping
[06:03] <elky> yep.
[06:03] <rww> whoops
[06:03] <rww> hopefully its PING response is async
[06:03] <elky> botabuser
[06:03] <rww> like, PING the IRC command, not !ping
[06:04] <elky> jussi: you might like to arrange a huge plate of botsnacks
[06:04] <elky> she's going to need some pampering
[06:04]  * jussi hands that responsibility to tsimpson
[06:04] <rww> on the upside, live fire test of ubottu's ability to handle DOS!
[06:04] <Flannel> She runs on linux, why does she need DOS?
[06:05] <elky> DoS
[06:05] <Flannel> elky: ShE rUnS oN lInUx, WhY dOeS sHe NeEd DoS?
[06:07] <tsimpson> well I didn't really anticipate that kind of usage for clearban
[06:07] <rww> well, I'm kinda using it right now 100x more than it will ever be used again ever
[06:08] <Flannel> tsimpson: That just means it's designed properly, in the spirit of unix!
[06:08] <rww> until I do the same thing with #ubuntu-offtopic and every other channel I have op in, anyway
[06:08] <rww> except I'll do it right those times \o/
[06:12] <tsimpson> I'm working on a nicer implementation atm
[06:12] <tsimpson> (and by "nicer" I mean one that doesn't show just one error at a time)
[06:12]  * rww nods
[06:13] <rww> teehee
[06:15] <tsimpson> should be better now
[06:17] <rww> that's good, because I'm running round 2 now because I missed some of the really old bans, probably because of array size limits or something
[06:23] <rww> okays, everything in http://ubottu.com/bans.cgi?bans=on&page=0&channel=%23ubuntu&mutes=on is actually set in #ubuntu
[06:23] <elky> yay
[06:23]  * rww claps happily
[06:30] <elky> aside from the 3 obvious exceptions, the ban list here could do with some nuking too
[06:30] <elky> Tm_Tr: EXCUSE ME MISTER
[06:30] <rww> oh god
[06:39] <Tm_Tr> I'm not amused
[06:39] <bazhang> by what
[06:39] <elky> we are
 swap kills ssd
[06:44] <bazhang> really?
[06:45] <bazhang> this is the Romulan guy, so I check his questions carefully
[06:46] <k1l> check bantracker, he is a known problem (not only in #u)
[06:46] <bazhang> checking my memory is enough, the number of hours in PM with him
[06:46] <bazhang> !trim
[06:47] <elky> it's less of an issue now, but aiui, it's still an issue.
[06:47] <elky> read/writes are in the millions etc, but swap is going to go through those faster than normal disk usage etc
[06:48] <rww> !-trim
[06:48] <rww> yw
[07:00] <elky> oh gods, now the bazhangs are multiplying
[07:01] <rww> elky: it's the #defocus ops' new tactic
[07:01] <elky> ah
[07:01] <elky> i imagine it would confuse a portion of that channel indeed
[07:21] <rww> tsimpson: @clearban isn't working for http://ubottu.com/bans.cgi?channel=%23ubuntu-release-party&operator=&query=&bans=on&mutes=on for me :\
[07:24] <rww> but anyways. #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-offtopic, and here are all cleaned up, and that's all that matters really :P
[07:24] <tsimpson> @channel #ubuntu-release-party plugins.Bantracker.enabled True
[07:24] <tsimpson> should work now
[07:25] <bazhang> it's open?
[07:25] <tsimpson> it's never closed
[07:25] <rww> bazhang: it's been open. nobody's talking in it, though
[07:25] <rww> and I don't have ops in it, so it clearly is not cool
[07:27] <bazhang> hehe
[07:27] <bazhang> so only the ubuntu cloaked get it then
[07:29] <tsimpson> looks like it's synced with the #ubuntu access list
[07:29] <tsimpson> or is intended to be so
[07:30] <tsimpson> maybe even all core ops, I see 64 entries
[13:36] <totem> hi
[13:36] <ikonia> hello totem
[13:36] <totem> invite peoples to join #ubuntu-women is rude?
[13:36] <totem> hello ikonia
[13:36] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[13:36] <ikonia> (in reference to what)
[13:37] <totem> ikonia, i seen ubuntu-women is quiet channel
[13:37] <totem> may i make invite peoples to join there?
[13:38] <ikonia> why ?
[13:38] <ikonia> why does it concern you if it's busy/empty ?
[13:38] <totem> so quiet on there
[13:38] <ikonia> who do you want to invite ?
[13:38] <totem> ikonia, everyone
[13:38] <ikonia> then no
[13:38] <ikonia> that's not it's function
[13:38] <ikonia> there is a clear topic in the channel detailing the projects goals (links to it) just inviting random people there is no helpful
[13:39] <totem> no helpfully? i think many girl on the internet
[13:39] <ikonia> no
[13:40] <totem> not in 3 years ago
[13:40] <ikonia> no
[13:40] <totem> OMG, you said no in 2 times
[13:40] <totem> ikonia, i love you
[13:40] <ikonia> thanks
[13:40] <Pici> weird
[13:41] <elky> he's banned from #ubuntu-women for weird reasons
[13:41] <ikonia> he'll start inviting people anyway, so pointless discussion
[13:42] <elky> i was hoping to go to bed
[13:42] <ikonia> do so
[13:42] <ikonia> don't stay up for the sake of him
[14:24]  * DJones hands irccloud.com a replacement carrier pidgeon to help stabilise their connection
[15:40] <daftykins> "batcave" in #ubuntu spamming users and timewasting in channel again
[15:41] <ikonia> he's not in #ubuntu
[15:42] <ikonia> he left a while ago
[15:43] <daftykins> and is back
[15:43] <ikonia> ughh, really
[15:43] <ikonia> I'll deal with it, thanks daftykins
[15:43] <daftykins> (:
 tuff, please stop sending me webcam spam. thank you.    anyone can confirm?
[18:50] <Jordan_U> Confirmed.
[18:51] <k1l_> ok
[19:53] <k1l_> dealing with it
 mheinke: so instead he should be encouraged to fear a TTY, install malware, and if something goes wrong, reinstall the entire operating system?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> And 16:20 < riceandbeans> john38: head to Debian, don't tell them you use ubuntu, tell them you use debian, you'll get better help, faster
[23:25] <bazhang> on thin ice
 mheinke: ubuntu regularly forks from debian sid
[23:33] <bazhang> really?
[23:34] <Pici> bazhang: if by 'forks', they mean 'syncs', then yes.
[23:34] <bazhang> Pici, "canonical malware"
[23:34] <Pici> I was replying to you here
[23:35] <bazhang> ah right, sorry
[23:35] <bazhang> he was full on trolling, from what I could see


[05:22] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:36] <ducasse> morning!
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> im digging in legal notice files
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> and disclaimer and privacy for my website
[06:41] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: ah, that should be interesting. have you got a lawyer to help you?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: well i found an online lawyer company, but they charge 500$ for standard stuff
[06:42] <ducasse> btw; do you know how/where i can get the keycodes from keys that readline/bash expects?
[06:42] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: is that for one hour?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: no, for the whole deal
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: keycodes, no sorry :p
[06:43] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: that's not bad, actually. imo.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: well im gonna try it myself first with model docs i found
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast :p
[06:44] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: there are probably hundreds of such disclaimers online you can 'rip', but there might be a requierement to have a lawyer at least approve it.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: well the files i found came from official bureau that helps belgian companys
[06:46] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: ok, enjoy breakfast:)
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> tnx mate
[08:14] <pavlushka> I like to know what is a rollback for a user in askubuntu forum?
[08:15] <pavlushka> sorry I better ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic, :)
[11:24] <daftykins> \o
[11:36] <OerHeks> |o|
[11:38] <ducasse> \o/
[11:38] <daftykins> :D
[11:39] <daftykins> everywhere we went in town (the island's capital) last night, having a few drinks for a friends birthday, people out playing Pokémon even close to midnight
[11:39] <daftykins> madness :P
[11:57] <tsimonq2> I know
[11:58] <tsimonq2> Pokémon Go is madness
[12:33] <ducasse> "oh noes, poor me, ctrl+shift+v is sooooo much work!"
[12:33] <ducasse> lol
[12:33] <tsimonq2> lol
[12:33] <daftykins> wussat? someone whinging about consistency?
[12:34] <tsimonq2> ducasse: Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Esc + Delete + Z + P + 6 opens a terminal for you, doesn't it? :P
[12:34] <ducasse> daftykins: bobslaw-skillwit in #ubuntu, he's really whining
[12:35] <ducasse> tsimonq2: wait till he tries emacs :)
[12:35] <daftykins> yeah, i'm on forced retirement from the channel unfortunately ;)
[12:35] <daftykins> (banned)
[12:35] <tsimonq2> oh jesus, ducasse
[12:35] <tsimonq2> ducasse: VIM! :D
[12:36] <ducasse> hehe, let's not go there :)
[12:36]  * tsimonq2 wonders if !war is a thing, tries in PM with ubottu
[12:37] <tsimonq2> gosh darnit
[12:37] <daftykins> oh but i can't ;)
[12:37] <tsimonq2> !vim
[12:37] <tsimonq2> heheheheheh
[12:37] <tsimonq2> what's ed? lol
[12:38] <tsimonq2> "ed is a line-oriented text editor." - sounds painful
[12:38] <tsimonq2> but I said that about Vim before I tried it
[12:39] <tsimonq2> soon I'll be running Gentoo, i3, and ed, you all watch ;)
[12:39] <tsimonq2> but I digress
[12:39] <ducasse> i3 <3
[12:41] <tsimonq2> snapcraft is fun
[12:41] <tsimonq2> I'm contributing a checksumming option, and it uses Python <3
[12:42] <ducasse> i've been thinking of making a snap with wine+winbox, wonder how much work it would be...
[12:43] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[12:43] <daftykins> heya \o
[12:43] <daftykins> how goes it in BluesKaj-land?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins, good here, how about you?
[12:45] <daftykins> nursing a slightly funny feeling head after some drinks last night for a friends birthday, but other than that - not bad thanks :D
[12:45] <daftykins> might upgrade the RAM in my file server today \o/
[12:45] <daftykins> depends what i can find :) archaic DDR2
[12:48] <BluesKaj> right, I'm trying to figure a way to get pia vpn client installed on the pi3
[12:48] <daftykins> hmm
[12:48] <ducasse> BluesKaj: can't you just use openvpn?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> yes the client uses openvpn , but the tuts for pi2 don't work on pi3 and there doesn't seem to be much info in the search engines...on arm it's basically cli commands . their gui doesn't work so fr
[12:54] <BluesKaj> so far
[12:56] <BluesKaj> I'm sure I'll find a method eventually, probly need some patience since the pi3 is still relatively new
[12:57] <ducasse> i just use manual openvpn configuration with their config files for pia, works fine for me.
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ducasse:  on pi3?
[13:02] <ducasse> no, admittedly not, does openvpn behave differently there?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> apparently so, the pi2 seems to have methods that work , but I haven't found any for the pi3 that actually work here.
[13:15] <ducasse> can't you just use 'openvpn --config Switzerland.ovpn' for example?
[13:17] <BluesKaj>  Options error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: Switzerland.ovpn
[13:17] <ducasse> you need to give the full path to it
[13:19] <ducasse> i also add the full paths to the ca.crt and the password file in that .ovpn file
[13:23] <ducasse> you can find the openvpn.zip/openvpn-strong.zip archives here https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/ under "advanced openvpn usage guides"
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ducasse: already tried all that in a couple of tuts and it errored out with a similar output as above
[13:33] <ducasse> BluesKaj: all i can say is that it _should_ work fine, i had to make those two edits to the config files to start up without further input, but that's it. no matter what platform i was on.
[13:33] <BluesKaj>  been using piavpn successfully for 2 yrs on linux, this is my first try with ARM architecture
[13:34] <ducasse> i use it on both arm and mips, no issues.
[13:36] <DJones> Folks just giving a heads up on this https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/07/15/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=pDfyZZ&utm_campaign=shortner
[13:39] <ducasse> thankfully i have 2fa on the ubuntu sites, but thanks for the heads up DJones
[13:40] <DJones> No worries, just saw it on twitter, thought it worth mentioning here
[13:40] <ducasse> it absolutely is :)
[14:07] <lecteur> bonjour
[17:42] <nicomachus> Gustaw seems upset
[17:42] <Bashing-om> Annnddd .. spreading the dis-content ??
[18:04] <dax> Bashing-om: if you mean tortib, he's displeased about a ban in another channel
[18:05] <dax> also, lol that forums breach, i guess they only got OpenID strings :3
[18:05] <dax> (plus usernames and emails... who cares)
[18:06] <Bashing-om> My thoughts too .. glad, however, that the intrusion was detected . :)
[18:07] <dax> indeed :)
[18:42] <OerHeks> 🆒
[18:43] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: ^ one of few words .
[18:46] <daftykins> :)
[18:46] <daftykins> hey all \o i'm playing with old LGA775 kit again today
[18:47] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/dVdptqz.jpg
[18:49] <Bashing-om> Oh having fun now ... making new standoffs for the mainboard ?
[18:49] <dax> my 775 board was a P5K-E, looks kinda similar to that :)
[18:49] <daftykins> dax: that's the one in the case! :)
[18:49] <dax> or wait is the one in the computer an -E... yeah
[18:49] <OerHeks> i love big a big fan bending motherboard :-D
[18:50] <dax> I only saw the right-hand one at first
[18:50] <daftykins> Bashing-om: nah just testing before going to the effort of swapping out, although the small one on the left has blown caps
[18:50] <dax> good board.
[18:50] <daftykins> that one is quite a doosy on the right - a P5KC, my file server runs on one too (and this VM I'm typing from) - it has DDR2 and 3 slots on the same board
[18:55] <nicomachus> daftykins: I have an LGA775 in my HTPC at home
[18:55] <daftykins> :)
[18:55] <daftykins> sturdy old dogs eh?
[18:56] <nicomachus> mmhmm. running a Core2Duo 2.7ghz in mine, with 4gb DDR2
[18:56] <nicomachus> and a half-decent Radeon 6450
[18:56] <nicomachus> HD
[18:56] <daftykins> ah har - got c2d E7400's here, 2.8GHz
[18:57] <daftykins> kinda mixing and matching bits to make good combos at the moment, though this working board i've just put in is being a pig and not POSTing with more than 1 RAM module
[18:57] <nicomachus> not sure what the exact number is on mine... can't reach it from work right now because I think my girlfriend switched the VPN on
[18:58] <nicomachus> probably sailing the seven seas
[18:59] <daftykins> =]
[19:00] <daftykins> what's the reason for the VPN thar?
[19:00] <nicomachus> sailing the seven seas, boarding honest ships and plundering.
[19:00] <daftykins> ^_^
[19:01] <dax> i had a q6600 in mine. only replaced it less than a year ago
[19:02] <dax> lga775 was right around the time CPU stopped being the bottleneck for things and ssds became popular, iirc ^_^
[19:03] <daftykins> that's mine sat here spare on the floor too, 8GB DDR2 - sadly found it was my nvidia 560Ti stopping any machine it was in from working properly
[19:03] <daftykins> put in some basic cards though and they're loving life again, considering selling them right now
[19:03] <dax> yeah, i eventually concluded that my HD7870 cooked itself and the issues that made me ditch the P5K-E weren't caused by the P5K-E
[19:04] <dax> but the new stuff is very speedy so i'm not too sad ;)
[19:05] <daftykins> yep! i feel much the same
[19:05] <daftykins> i've offered the Q6600 for £100 to a friend, SSD and other disks too - so really it just needs a graphics card and it could be a pretty decent gaming machine again
[19:07] <daftykins> got it running with two DIMMs, yay
[19:08] <daftykins> do i push my luck (:
[19:37] <daftykins> pauljw: hi sir o/
[19:37] <daftykins> yay POST with all 4 DIMMs \o/
[19:37] <pauljw> \o daftykins
[21:58] <tgm4883> Q6600 owners unite!
[22:32] <daftykins> :D
[22:32] <daftykins> you'll all be pleased too, as i just installed ubuntu on this core 2 duo i was fixing up


[05:29] <pitti> Good morning
[06:59] <pitti> jibel: could it be that the quantal-saucy-* tests on wazn actually use the quantal-trusty-* containers?
[07:36] <pitti> jibel: I'd like to add a grub workaround for bug 1060404, which breaks the quantal → saucy upgrades
[07:37] <pitti> jibel: if I add the workaround to LXC's bootstrap(), is it true that I can just blow away the existing container and the job will regenerate it? certainly looks like it, but I don't know whether you did any customizations to the containers which need to be recreated then
[07:37] <jibel> pitti, Good morning
[07:37] <pitti> bonjour jibel, ça va ?
[07:38] <jibel> pitti, q->s use q-s containers, the profile was misconfigured with trusty as target release, but I fixed it and they should use q-s containers now
[07:38] <jibel> pitti, ça va bien et toi?
[07:39] <jibel> pitti, there is no customization to the containers, you can destroy them and they'll be recreated
[07:39] <pitti> jibel: je n'ai pas domi bien
[07:39] <jibel> pitti, you're training to support jetlag next week ? ;)
[07:39] <pitti> upgrade-tester@wazn:~$ sudo lxc-ls --fancy|grep quantal
[07:39] <pitti> heh
[07:40] <pitti> → only gives me quantal-trusty-*, no quantal-saucy-*
[07:40] <pitti> but http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Upgrade/job/upgrade-ubuntu-quantal-saucy-desktop-amd64/27/consoleText confirms that it was running on wazn
[07:40] <pitti> Testing '/home/upgrade-tester/auto-upgrade-tester/profiles/trusty/ubuntu-quantal-saucy-desktop-amd64'
[07:40] <pitti> profilename:  upgrader-ubuntu-quantal-trusty-desktop-amd64
[07:47] <jibel> pitti, hm, looking
[07:50] <pitti> jibel: so I want to replace /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub if src_release == 'quantal'; I'd need to do that before starting the container, otherwise it would only be in the overlay, right?
[07:52] <jibel> pitti, if you do it in bootstrap() it will be done in the base container
[07:53] <pitti> jibel: ah, you think it's better to always apply it in upgrade()?
[07:55] <jibel> pitti, if the workaround must always be applied for quantal it doesn't hurt to apply it to the base image, does it?
[07:55] <pitti> jibel: no, it doesn't
[07:56] <pitti> jibel: and I don't see that I have rootfs and src_release in upgrade(), so it's easier there, too
[07:56] <pitti> it's modifying a conffile, so we should get a conffile prompt on that; but we can filter that out
[07:57] <pitti> I asked on the bug whether we should SRU it properly, then we can remove this again
[07:59] <jibel> pitti, I fixed profiles q->s to generate a container q-s, the target release was set to trusty, I forgot to commit my changes
[07:59] <pitti> jibel: ah, thanks
[08:00] <pitti> darn, I just started a build 3 seconds ago
[08:00] <pitti> but, there will be more runs :)
[08:00] <jibel> pitti, there is a whitelist for conffiles that are expected
[08:00] <jibel> in the test
[08:01] <pitti> jibel: oh, I don't see that in "share/post_upgrade_tests/test_conffiles.py
[08:02] <pitti> oh, you mean that checks which conffiles were already modified before the upgprade
[08:04] <jibel> pitti, I mean if there is a .dpkg-dist created because the file has been voluntarily modified before the upgrade, it can be ignored.
[08:05] <pitti> jibel: so whatever you changed for q->s, is that in bzr? there are no new commits
[08:06] <pitti> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.5.0-45-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-45-generic
[08:06] <jibel> pitti, in lp:~jibel/+junk/auto-upgrade-testing_profiles/
[08:06] <pitti> disabled to work around LP#1060404
[08:07] <pitti> banzai!
[08:07] <pitti> jibel: ah
[08:07] <jibel> I'll move them back to trunk
[08:07] <pitti> I wonder how bootstrapping the quantal containers worked without that in the first place
[08:07] <jibel> merge them actually
[08:08] <pitti> upgrader-ubuntu-quantal-saucy-server-amd64               RUNNING  <IP_ADDRESS>  -     NO
[08:08] <pitti> jibel: ^ confirmed, thanks
[08:24] <jibel> pitti, what's the problem with unity, python-apt,... and python:any in http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/upgrade-ubuntu-precise-trusty-desktop-i386_vm/25/console
[08:27] <pitti> jibel: filed a while ago as bug 1271237
[08:27] <pitti> jibel: in short, we need to teach apt or u-m to first upgrade dpkg and apt, then the rest
[08:27] <pitti> precise's apt doesn't understand python:any dependencies yet
[08:27] <jibel> pitti, ah right, thanks
[08:28] <pitti> jibel: I have that, bug 1279424, and bug 1060404
[08:28] <pitti> with these fixed, we should have a lot of green
[08:29] <pitti> hm, yesterday we also had that conffile prompt, searching where that was
[08:33] <jibel> pitti, it was precise-trusty-server-tasks IIRC
[08:34] <pitti> hm, building the container got stuck
[09:05] <pitti> jibel: the workaround worked, now I get a conffile failure on that file: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Upgrade/job/upgrade-ubuntu-quantal-saucy-server-amd64/28/artifact/results/bootstrap.log
[09:06] <pitti> ah, I should probably move the original file to dpkg-dist in teh workaround, so that the "new changed conffile" detection works
[09:07] <pitti> no, I misunderstood that; I'll just whitelist it
[09:07] <jibel> pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6924523/ should be enough
[09:08] <jibel> +/tmp/
[09:08] <pitti> right, that's what I'm doing now
[09:11] <pitti> jibel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6924537/
[09:11] <jibel> pitti, LGTM
[09:18] <pitti> green!
[10:52] <davmor2> Morning all
[17:31] <balloons> can anyone reach https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester?
[17:33] <balloons> so weird, I can't get to it on my mainbox.. wild
[17:34] <mrgoodcat> working fine for me
[17:35] <balloons> ty mrgoodcat :-) Good to know the crazy begins and ends here
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> I know the ubuntu wiki is caps sensitive, could that be your issue?
[17:41] <balloons> well now it's working. I was getting server 400 errors
[17:41]  * balloons rattles head
[17:41] <balloons> good point on the caps sensitive though!
[17:41] <balloons> https vs http as well
[18:00] <mrgoodcat> it is the only caps sensitive website i can remember seeing in a while
[18:01] <mrgoodcat> actually i just tested a few and apparently caps sensitive is normal behaviour and i never noticed
[18:01] <balloons> :-)
[19:13] <hggdh> host names on URLs are not caps-sensitive, but the rest of it will probably be (certain on Unix servers, unknown on Windows ones)
[19:21] <balloons> I'll take the high road on this one and blame, well let's see.. nyan.cat
[19:25] <phillw> balloons: you have mail
[20:49] <balloons> phillw, ty ;-)
[20:50] <phillw> balloons: yvw... I do lurk :)


[00:34] <Artimus> Did those new KDE4 packages "fix" KDE4 in Hardy?  I lost my hardy virtual machine, so I'll be reinstalling tomorrow.  I'm curious if I'll have KDE4 to look forward to.
[00:43] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic
[00:43] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB
[00:44] <bardyr> !info nvidia-glx-new
[00:44] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-2.8 (hardy), package size 4897 kB, installed size 14844 kB
[03:04] <derekS> hi. has anyone else come across a problem with compiz crashing? The compiz.real package uses 100% of the cpu for a short time then the wm dies. i am using nvidia-glx-new (if that makes a difference) and everything is vanilla from the hardy repos.
[03:05] <crdlb> derekS: try disabling the animation plugin
[03:05] <derekS> crdlb: hmm, can you help me out with how?
[03:06] <crdlb> do you have ccsm installed?
[03:06] <derekS> crdlb: let me check, i typically don't play with compiz stuff because i don't care about effects
[03:06] <crdlb> !ccsm
[03:06] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:06] <derekS> simple-ccsm is not installed
[03:07] <crdlb> the package name is 'compizconfig-settings-manager'
[03:08] <derekS> nope, i have a bunch of libconizconfig packages installed (2 of them) but none by that name
[03:08] <crdlb> so install it ... :)
[03:08] <derekS> haha
[03:08] <derekS> ok
[03:08] <derekS> but if its not installed, why would it be crashing?
[03:09] <crdlb> because the animation plugin (which is enabled by default) seems to cause lockups and such
[03:10] <crdlb> only on nvidia afaik
[03:10] <derekS> crdlb: now its making sense, and this just allows me to turn it off :)
[03:10] <crdlb> yeah
[03:10] <crimsun> crdlb: no, it's a known issue and is fixed in hardy.
[03:11] <derekS> crimsun: i am using hardy.... and just did a full upgrade to make sure i am using latest
[03:11] <derekS> only thing that was kept back was epiphany, iirc
[03:12] <crimsun> derekS: does it match bug 175744?
[03:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175744 in compiz "Hardy freezes when using compiz" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175744
[03:13] <derekS> crimsun: checking
[03:13] <crdlb> that doesn't mean there's no another problem with animation :)
[03:13] <crdlb> not*
[03:14] <crimsun> crdlb: certainly not, which is why I'm interested in narrow it down
[03:15] <crimsun> narrowing*
[03:15] <derekS> crimsun: prob not the same bug, my system doesn't lock up... compiz usually just crashes
[03:15] <crdlb> derekS: is there something you're usually doing that causes it?
[03:17] <derekS> crdlb: no, its as soon as i log into gnome, the system becomes slow for like 90 seconds, then poof there goes my wm (and compiz.real dies)
[03:19] <crdlb> hrm
[03:20] <derekS> just disabled animations
[03:20] <derekS> lets see if that helped
[03:20] <crdlb> if that doesn't help, try: compiz.real --replace decoration move resize
[03:20] <derekS> crdlb: it worked :)
[03:20] <derekS> i think
[03:22] <crimsun> make sure you file a bug :-)
[03:22] <crdlb> derekS: disabling animation worked?
[03:22] <derekS> crdlb: yeah
[03:23] <derekS> crimsun: going to do that now
[03:27] <derekS> crimsun: seems its bug 102883
[03:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 102883 in compiz "[apport] compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV after restarting Gnome" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102883
[10:59] <Toma-> has rtl8180 been dropped from hardy?
[10:59] <Toma-> (the module)
[11:45] <Toma-> Would the build log give suggestions as to why certain modules are skipped in the kernel build?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> Toma-: probably
[11:49] <Toma-> thx
[11:50] <Toma-> grr cant find a build log :(
[11:51] <Toma-> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/linux-source-2.6.24/2.6.24-2.4
[11:51]  * Hobbsee suspects some of them have been told not to build
[11:52] <Toma-> ..but im using the built package :/
[11:56] <e_r_c_e> hello
[11:56] <e_r_c_e> i'm so stupid :)
[11:56] <e_r_c_e> i need to format floppy in 8.04
[11:56] <e_r_c_e> how to?
[11:57] <Toma-> mkfs.whatever
[11:57] <Toma-> same as every other release of ubuntu
[11:57] <e_r_c_e> mkfs floppy0
[11:57] <e_r_c_e> or   mkfs.floppy0
[11:58] <Toma-> hmmm should you be running hardy?
[11:59] <e_r_c_e> yes
[11:59] <e_r_c_e> hardy is my comp
[12:00] <Toma-> should you be formatting floppies then? :)
[12:00] <e_r_c_e> moment please
[12:00] <Toma-> 'man mkfs'
[12:00] <Toma-> Hobbsee➜ where can I find a build log for at least 1 of the hardy kernel?
[12:01] <e_r_c_e> MKFS-Build a Linux file system
[12:01] <e_r_c_e> what IF i want FAT 32
[12:01] <e_r_c_e> ?
[12:01] <nanonyme> should you be using hardy if you don't know how to use format utilities in linux? :)
[12:01] <Toma-> scroll down to see also
[12:01] <Hobbsee> nanonyme: i don't know that either
[12:02] <Hobbsee> but this guy is seeming fairly clueless
[12:02] <e_r_c_e> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50487/
[12:02] <Hobbsee> Toma-: it's under linux now
[12:02]  * nanonyme starts "when is it going to fail" timer about now
[12:03] <Hobbsee> Toma-: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=linux&build_state=all
[12:03] <Toma-> thanks a bunch!
[12:05]  * nanonyme eyerolls at the failed ppc restricted modules build log
[12:05] <nanonyme> "/bin/sh: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1: not found
[12:05] <nanonyme> " o.O
[12:05] <Toma-> lawl
[12:07] <nanonyme> someone should tell ross to fix his build environment...
[12:07] <Hobbsee> has gcc even built then?
[12:07]  * nanonyme shrugs
[12:08] <Toma-> well this has been a huge cup of fail for me.
[12:08] <Hobbsee> curse it.
[12:08] <nanonyme> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/<IP_ADDRESS>-2.8/+build/478334 build environment should already have been fully built to even attempt that
[12:08] <Hobbsee> nanonyme: that would suggest that gcc died.
[12:09] <Hobbsee> yup
[12:10] <Toma-> rtl8180.ko has been silently taken out :(
[12:10] <Toma-> i suspect the CIA >_>
[12:11] <nanonyme> Hobbsee, hmm, i guess. to me it just looked as if it's trying to use gcc 4.1 when it didn't exist on the computer
[12:11] <Hobbsee> er, gcc-4.1 is not part of build-essentials anymore, i expect
[12:12] <nanonyme> what is, 4.2?
[12:12] <Hobbsee> yes
[12:12] <nanonyme> right
[12:12] <nanonyme> so just a slight version-mismatch probably then
[12:13] <Hobbsee> means the kernel team screwed up, it appaers
[12:13] <nanonyme> they've probably been notified already, right?
[12:14] <Hobbsee> oh, those l-r-m are old anyway
[12:15] <nanonyme> so yes
[12:15] <Hobbsee> erm, at least, should be.
[12:15] <Toma-> So... is there anyway to find out where this module has gone? and when?
[12:53] <DOLLY> wann kommt die ubuntu 8.04 beta raus?
[12:53] <hit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[12:54] <DOLLY> danke
[17:00] <Arjun> hey every one
[17:01] <Arjun> MMMM
[17:01] <Arjun> ok well Ive just installed ubuntu for the first time and it has picked up my ethernet card
[17:02] <Arjun> it however doesnt wanna ping my router and can not b pinged from other pcs
[17:02] <Arjun> I can ping myself though
[17:02] <Arjun> anyhelp please kinda new to the whole linux thung
[17:03] <Arjun> really dont wanna go back to the evilness of satans os
[17:03] <Arjun> anyone thewre
[17:03] <Arjun> there ??
[17:05] <Arjun> oops wrong channel
[17:05] <Arjun> bye
[17:05] <Arjun> #ubuntu
[17:05] <Arjun> argh
[17:35] <i00_000i> how to stop daemons from starting up automatically during booting
[17:37] <pvandewyngaerde> edit/remove the startup scripts ?
[17:39] <i00_000i> but wher r they...in fedora one can control the services from /sbin/services but like that in ubuntu
[17:39] <sn0> i00_000i try system > administration > services
[17:40] <i00_000i> sn0: entire list is not ther ...i installed the server edition ...plz tell me how to stop hal daemon
[17:40] <i00_000i> sn0: one can start and stop hal daemon from /sbin/services in fedora but itz not available in ubuntu
[17:42] <sn0> i00_000i ok well working from the server you can manually start / stop the services from init.d
[17:42] <i00_000i> sn0: but hal daemon in not in /etc/init.d
[17:43] <i00_000i> sn0: i looked for httpd also itz also not ther
[17:43] <sn0> i00_000i im not sure this is a ubuntu development version question, but fedora works differenty to ubuntu, so if it was httpd in fedora, this is called apache or apache2 in ubuntu
[17:43] <sn0> for eg sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:43] <Pici> i00_000i: Are you using Hardy/8.04?
[17:44] <sn0> hal should be likewise, /etc/init.d/hal but im just checking on my vm image
[17:45] <i00_000i> Pici: not 7.o4
[17:45] <Pici> i00_000i: This channel is only for 8.04/Hardy support.
[17:46] <sn0> i00_000i you can ask in #ubuntu , or we can talk about it in there :)
[17:46] <i00_000i>  sn0: i have been using fedora for a long time jst tried ubuntu as fedora is not recognising my laptops keyboard..
[18:25] <bardyr> !info nvidia-glx-new
[18:25] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-2.8 (hardy), package size 4897 kB, installed size 14844 kB
[18:26] <bardyr> anyone got and idea when the new nvidia driver is in or when the kernel is updated
[18:26] <bardyr> its a bit behind the ubuntu kernel git tree
[18:27] <aslaen> hello, I am running the latest ubuntu hardy x86_64 alpha.. I installed elisa using apt-get install elisa, and it installed fine. When I try to launch it it never opens a UI. Here is the output from terminal.. http://nopaste.com/p/aM7UkgiP2
[20:07] <gouchi> Hi there
[20:07] <gouchi> is it plan to add support for OpenChrome card in Hardy
[20:08] <gouchi> I mean include the X.org driver directly in the CD
[20:08] <gouchi> didn't find any spec
[20:13] <Spec> gouchi: 'sup
[20:14] <gouchi> Spec : ?
 didn't find any spec
[20:21] <aslaen> has anyone here successfully run elisa using the amd64 debs in hardy universe repo?
[20:21] <Spec> gouchi: what's OpenChrome?
[21:00] <jtholmes> can anyone tell me how i find out who in the Ubuntu org is responsible for gdm
[21:00] <awen_> jtholmes: look at the bug contacts for the package on launchpad ?
[21:06] <jtholmes> awen_, thanks will do
[22:09] <tcpdumpgod> Okay, im going to hang out in here.
[22:09] <tcpdumpgod> Too many noobs in #ubuntu
[22:32] <Oli``> How stable is Hardy?
[22:34] <bardyr> Oli``, as stable as you can except from a ubuntu alpha2
[22:35] <Oli``> I can't remember when I jumped onto Gutsy but I think it was about the same sort of time... I'm just getting bored of the monotony of a stable system ^_^
[22:35] <bardyr> heh
[22:36] <bardyr> im been on hardy but it was just too unstable for me
[22:36] <bardyr> waiting for the new nvida driver to be upped and im on it again
[22:37] <awen_> Oli``: Kubuntu seems incredible stable for a alpha (at least with kde 3.5.*)


[16:37] <daker_> cjohnston: mhall119 i have a proposal for the schedule view
[21:43] <mhall119> daker_: my flight just landed, can you email it or just tell me on monday?
[21:43] <daker_> sure sure :)


[00:08] <xixor> Howdy ya'll..  Trying to update my system with muon, it is failing saying that the proper authentication was not provided, but it never pops up the dialog asking for the admin/root password.  Anyone know whats up?
[00:27] <xixor> Trying to teach my gf how to use Kubuntu.  KDE is pretty easy.  Getting into her session is difficult.  Oh, I'm logged in, go to Kmenu->create session… click on the "Unused" thingy, ok, now login.  Oh, you're already logged in, hit cntrl+shift+F8
[00:58] <xixor> Is there a way to get the picture in the user account profiles to show up on the lightdm login screen?
[01:02] <tsimpson> xixor: cp ~/.face.icon ~/.face
[01:03] <heathjs> so... webgl works in firefox and google-chrome... not chromium...
[01:03] <heathjs> but kde doesn't detect opengl...
[01:03] <heathjs> thus no desktop effects...
[01:03] <heathjs> so confuuused
[02:19] <doctorpepper> hi guys!!
[04:58] <personal> how difficult is it to install printer drivers in kubuntu
[05:09] <datruth> is there away to screen my screen brightness I don't think its getting as bright as it could
[05:23] <personal> anybody say anything in here?
[05:25] <personal> welcome to boredom headquarters
[05:28] <personal> welcome to boredom headquarters anyone talking?
[05:40] <EmmEight> what is the command to open up the network manager
[09:34] <shadeslayer> ohai people
[09:34] <shadeslayer> who wants to QA some firefox packages which have KDE integration?
[10:58] <spike_sfh> hi all
[11:04] <timeship> how can i use it?
[11:05] <timeship> OK, I see
[12:04] <heliocastro> Morning
[12:04] <heliocastro> Anyone knows if ksshaskpass is working ?
[12:04] <Tm_T> morning
[12:04] <simplew> kubuntu was patched to change the default text editor to kate (instead kwrite)?
[12:04] <heliocastro> It seens doesn't matter if you put in env, it never execs it with ssh-add
[12:05] <Tm_T> simplew: hm?
[12:05] <simplew> Tm_T: im trying to check if this was changed upstream of if was a kubuntu change
[12:06] <Tm_T> simplew: I don't remember such change being made on either
[12:07] <Tm_T> but then, I'm unsure what's default these days anyway /:
[12:07] <simplew> Tm_T: now its kate thats the default editor instead kwrite
[12:07] <Tm_T> simplew: how you check what is default?
[12:07] <simplew> Tm_T: create a new user
[12:08] <Tm_T> simplew: considering those things tend to change heavily based on the order of packages being installed
[12:08] <simplew> Tm_T: hu???
[12:09] <Tm_T> simplew: if you install wine, you might end up having "notepad" as your text editor
[12:09] <Tm_T> no I'm not kidding /:
[12:09] <simplew> yofel_: could you please help clarifying if the default text editor change to kate is a kubuntu change or if is an upstream change?
[12:10] <simplew> Tm_T: not really
[12:10] <Tm_T> simplew: this has happened me way too many times its not even funny anymore (ok, it is in its own way)
[12:11] <simplew> Tm_T: that never happened to me
[12:11] <yofel_> we traditionally used kate by default and IIRC didn't even ship kwrite. The reason it wasn't the default lately was due to a patch that went missing. It's back now so kate should be the default again
[12:11] <simplew> yofel: which patch is that?
[12:13] <yofel> kate-4.9.4/debian/patches/kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch
[12:13] <Tm_T> heliocastro: is kdsshaskpass your sshaskpass provider per dpkg-alternatives?
[12:15] <simplew> yofel: i was expcting for a kdelibs patch... :/
[12:15] <heliocastro> humm, no, but i set the script direct on autostart
[12:15] <heliocastro> Ohh, new kde
[12:15] <yofel> simplew: it was in kdesdk before. The patch got lost when kdesdk was split and kate got its own package
[12:17] <simplew> yofel: could you provide the url for that patch, cant find it
[12:17] <heliocastro> Tm_T: Yes, it is
[12:19] <yofel> simplew: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch
[12:20] <simplew> yofel: oh its the initalpreferences set, thanks :)
[12:21] <simplew> yofel: but if kde uses kwrite as default text editor why kubuntu changes it to kate?
[12:22] <Tm_T> ...because we don't ship both in default install?
[12:22]  * Tm_T goes check manifest file
[12:23] <simplew> by the way in kate.desktop apepars the same entry twice, InitialPreference=9   and in last last: InitialPreference=8
[12:23] <Tm_T> yup, kwrite isn't on default install
[12:28] <simplew> yofel: when i do 'bzr co ubuntu:kate'  the source files appear already patched?
[12:28] <Tm_T> heliocastro: hmm, I just installed ksshaskpass, didn't do any changes and things are already asking it, so looks like it is working here
[12:28] <heliocastro> Tm_T: I forgot to mention, i don'e use a standard single id_dsa
[12:29] <Tm_T> ah
[12:29] <heliocastro> I use three different named dsas
[12:29] <yofel> simplew: hum, that warrants investigation then
[12:29] <heliocastro> before fedora kde was handling well
[12:29] <heliocastro> Tm_T: I saw that kubuntu kde is handling only id_dsa
[12:29] <Tm_T> heliocastro: interesting, I wonder what makes the difference
[12:29] <heliocastro> That's the reason my config imported is not working
[12:30]  * yofel use id_rsa
[12:30] <yofel> oh, ksshaskpass
[12:30] <yofel> nvm me
[12:31] <heliocastro> yofel: If you have one single is fine
[12:31] <heliocastro> but i have the necessity of have three
[12:33] <yofel> ah, I have an id_rsa and id_dsa and usually authentiy to the ssh-agent in konsole and later forget about it
[12:33] <simplew> yofel: seams the fetched source fiels are really patched...
[12:34] <heliocastro> Tm_T: ssh-add is even not working exportin SSH_ASKPASS
[12:34] <heliocastro> only command line
[12:34] <yofel> simplew: yeah, that's the default for dpkg-source at least. I'm not sure how the UDD branches work here
[12:35] <heliocastro> Tm_T: Interestewing behavior comparison, a single ssh-add command, without any input, ask all keys
[12:35] <heliocastro> maybe fedora has a patch on it
[12:36] <simplew> yofel: but i dont get why was that patch created since kate.deskto already have InitialPreference=9
[12:36] <yofel> simplew: we're talking about that in -devel right now. I don't get it either
[12:37] <simplew> i have just joined
[12:39] <simplew> yofel: if you do a change in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list you need to logout to changes take effect?
[12:39] <yofel> no idea
[12:40] <simplew> brb
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:55] <susundberg> Hi BluesKaj
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hi susundberg
[15:31] <_dns__> Libreoffice is extremely ugly in KDE
[15:31] <_dns__> does anyone know how to tweak this ?
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> _dns__: can you post a snapshot of libreoffice?
[16:42] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: are you there?
[16:45] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: more or less, what's up?
[16:45] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeplasma-addons.git&a=commit&h=7e6922616963b3b0d571699f64c79ac53c08da8d
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeplasma-addons.git&a=commit&h=b4d257bcf717d1b9f8b343ff4211e8b1d083a719
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the patch cannot make it to 4.9.4, so can you backport?
[16:46] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: will do
[16:47] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: thank you
[16:50] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[16:51] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: added, will be in our 4.9.4 updates
[16:51] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: cool
[16:51] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: thank you
[17:24] <Katbuntu> hi
[17:39] <phoenix_firebrd> Katbuntu: hi
[17:39] <Katbuntu> Hi phoenix_firebrd
[19:20] <KehateSensei> Hey all... has anyone ever gotten a short read error while partitioning and formating ext filesystems in gParted? I can do Fat, NTFS but not linux supported filesystems
[19:34] <Guest2695> como puedo cambiar el nick??
[19:36] <nuevo_nick> entra "/nick nuevo_nick"
[19:49] <Guest2695>  /nick nuevo_deyna
[19:50] <Guest2695>  "/nick nuevo_deyna"
[19:50] <Guest2695>  "/deyna_nick"
[19:50] <Guest2695> ....
[21:25] <BarkingFish> Evening all.  Anyone know in the recent batch of KDE updates about 48h back, whether pulseaudio was updated?  It's not capturing correctly on my system now, and I have to figure out why.
[22:12] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:12] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:12] <rork> hello
[22:45] <Doyle> yo.
[22:45] <Doyle> instead of exiting a script, is there a way to keep it running?
[22:45] <Doyle> maybe an &
[22:46] <Doyle> while calling it with service
[22:46] <yofel> &, nohup or start-stop-daemon can be used to keep something running in the background
[22:47] <yofel> service? you mean an init script? If it's supposed to keep running there has to be something that does keep running by itself
[22:47] <Doyle> ya. I made a test service to configure nagios against
[22:47] <yofel> you could then make a service config in /etc/init/ to manage it
[22:48] <Doyle> It writes teh start/stop logs fine, but the processes doesn't stay alive
[22:49] <Doyle> ahh.. so I just need seomthing like "nohup touch dog.txt"
[22:49] <Doyle> in the script
[22:51] <Doyle> or, would a "nohup echo 'poo' >> /dev/null" be better?
[22:53] <yofel> nah, I misunderstood the question. They'll help to prevent it being killed if the shell vanishes. But not prevent the application from terminating itself
[22:53] <yofel> does it keep running if you run it in the foreground?
[22:54] <Doyle> nope
[22:55] <yofel> then you'll have to work that out first
[22:57] <Doyle> http://pastebin.com/aD1mfZYR
[22:57] <Doyle> it's saved as /etc/init.d/fearservice
[22:57] <Doyle> it all works... but it doesn't stay alive. I know the answers going to be simple


[02:52] <Viper550> coz_, hello
[02:53] <coz_> Viper550,  hey guy
[02:53] <Viper550> I've had a history here btw. But anyway
[02:53] <coz_> ok :)
[02:53] <Viper550>  http://i.imgur.com/WCKpc.png I'm working on something I'm told, with GRUB 2, would be feasable
[02:54] <coz_> Viper550,  i like the look of that ,, nice clean simple :)
[02:54] <coz_> Viper550,  have you offered this idea  :)
[02:54] <Viper550> I was discussing it on #ayatana last night
[02:55] <coz_> excellent!   they like it ...yes?
[02:56] <coz_> Viper550,  apologies.. I have to sign off for now,, I have to get to bed for work tomorrow,,, I would like to hear more about this though,,,, I will be on tomorrow night around  5 pm


[08:47] <davidcalle> Hello
[08:49] <davidcalle> czajkowski, hi, I'm looking for someone to create a project group.
[08:49] <czajkowski> davidcalle: hi
[08:49] <czajkowski> you'll need to file a question and it will get processed
[08:50] <czajkowski> davidcalle: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[08:50] <czajkowski> davidcalle: it will need all the infor on https://help.launchpad.net/ProjectGroups
[08:51] <davidcalle> czajkowski, sounds good, thanks :)
[11:00] <dholbach> hiya
[11:01] <dholbach> can somebody explain to me why https://launchpad.net/~dholbach/+archive/ppa/+build/4462063 worked out and why https://launchpad.net/~dholbach/+archive/ppa/+build/4462062 didn't?
[11:02] <dholbach> if I read the build log of the latter correctly, it complains about not being able to install gettext:any (>= 0.18), while it says earlier "Setting up gettext (<IP_ADDRESS>-3ubuntu1) ..."
[11:02] <dholbach> so I'm not quite sure what's going on
[11:24] <wgrant> dholbach: It's your new dpkg-dev
[11:24] <wgrant> dholbach: The amd64 used it
[11:24] <wgrant> amd64 build
[11:25] <wgrant> It works fine with stock oneiric dpkg-dev.
[11:26] <dholbach> bah....
[11:33] <dholbach> thanks wgrant
[12:36] <sysy> hello everybodies from Bordeaux
[12:37] <sysy> do you ubuntu here ?
[12:40] <sysy> No ubunteros polyglot
[12:43] <sysy> Do you know Manga about Ubuntu => Ubunchu ? here in more 24 languages ?
[12:48] <sysy> at soon I will back
[17:24] <ed8> hi, is there a search API I can use with bash script ?
[17:25] <ed8> I would like to get the list of PPA that contains a given package name
[17:42] <dobey> ed8: you could wget/curl a search query to google limiting it with site:ppa.launchpad.net i guess
[17:43] <dobey> ed8: afaik there's no general "search all the PPAs for a package name"
[17:43] <maxb> Though I think the web UI does it OK
[17:43] <maxb> No api thougj
[18:02] <dobey> maxb: well, the web UI searches everything; so it gives you projects, packages, people, etc…
[18:03] <maxb> dobey: There's a PPA-only search at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[18:04] <maxb> It searches more than just package *names*, but it's mostly good enough
[18:04] <dobey> oh i didn't know that existed.
[18:21] <ed8> dobey: ok, thanks
[19:35] <sary> Salutaions!
[19:35] <ESphynx> salutations :)
[19:37] <sary> Hi ESphynx :)
[19:39] <sary> I had to file a bug report, after clicking to submit it's shown as a private information.
[19:40] <dobey> did you mark it as being anything other than public?
[19:41] <sary> what does that means! and which of the informations will be public and which won't!
[19:41] <dobey> none of it is public until someone changes the bug report to be public, then all of it will be public
[19:42] <sary> dobey: no i haven't marked it .. lemme post the screen shot .
[19:42] <dobey> what bug #?
[19:42] <sary> http://imgur.com/7F62NjL
[19:42] <sary> !Bug #1164119
[19:42] <sary> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1164119
[19:43] <dobey> yeah it's private, but i can't see that one either
[19:43] <dobey> sary: don't worry about it. all crash reports are initially private
[19:43] <sary> dobey: Okay.
[19:44] <sary> So, what should i do now ! mark i a public !?
[19:44] <dobey> sary: no, you don't need to do anything
[19:45] <dobey> sary: if the developers working on it need more information they'll ask for it and you'll get an e-mail from launchpad about it
[19:46] <dobey> sary: but there isn't anything else you specifically need to do with it at the moment. you've filed the bug report and hopefully someone will be able to look at it soon
[19:47] <sary> dobey: alright, that's sound promising .
[19:49] <sary> It's not like this was my first time to report a bug , it just my first to see it marked to private automatically.
[19:50] <dobey> sary: it's normal. crash reports are marked private by default in case they contain any private info (you may not immediately know if they do or not, until the rescanner runs and examines the crash with all the debug info)
[19:52] <sary> dobey: Nice.
[19:56] <sary> so in regards of the notifications and subscribers, after examine the bug info , it will be marked as public and devolopers will be notified or i'll have to subscribe a dev team member manually !
[19:58] <sary> dobey: thanks for the love & support, keep it up! :)
[20:00] <dobey> developers can see it already i think
[20:00] <dobey> or will be able to, once the rescan is done
[20:00] <dobey> lik i said, there's nothing you need to do with it :)
[20:47] <teemperor> hi everyone, i get ssl-errors when i connect to launchpad via the launchpadlib, see here for the traceback
[20:47] <teemperor> http://pastebin.com/E56JjV7q
[20:48] <teemperor> i simply import the launchpadlib and run: launchpad = Launchpad.login_anonymously(APP_NAME, 'production')
[20:48] <teemperor> any clue how to solve this?
[21:56] <staticfloat> Hello, I have a question about Launchpad; I want to use a recipe to build some code of mine, but I need dependencies that are in a PPA I publish.  How can I include a PPA in my recipe?
[22:15] <staticfloat> Nevermind, figured it out!  You can edit "PPA dependencies" inside the target PPA your build is pushed to


[01:02] <driftmonk> Why does my wordpress images send so many request header cookies? Requesting one .png has like 16 cookies with it. whyyy
[01:55] <docmur> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu on 16.04.1 and I have mod-security enabled.  I'm trying to send a GET / POST request without a User Agent attached, but I can't, it causes a 403, this is the security notice: [msg "Request Missing a User Agent Header"] [severity "NOTICE"], is it possible to turn User Agent filtering off but leave the rest intact?
[01:59] <sarnold> if this is documenting the same mod_security, there's a dozen instances of User-Agent on this page https://github.com/SpiderLabs/ModSecurity/wiki/Reference-Manual#REQUEST_HEADERS
[03:50] <jvwjgames> has anyone used maas
[05:37] <dpb1> jvwjgames: yes
[06:32] <OpenTokix> Hello all, I am doing a preseeded installation of ubuntu 16.04.3 from a custom iso. - But the installer is failing on "apt-install or in-target is already running..." messages appear in syslog. - I have found a bug on lunchpad (1450597) however it seems to reference booting from usb stick. Bug is from 2013. The installation is made on a virtualization platform.
[06:32] <OpenTokix> The preseed file itself works pxe-booted.
[06:34] <OpenTokix>     KERNEL /casper/vmlinuz.efi
[06:34] <OpenTokix> ups
[06:34] <OpenTokix> https://pastebin.com/7sJL846u <-- this is the append to kernel boot I am using.  - That paste is from another isolinux.cfg I am working on parallell I am aware it is desktop when its casper.
[07:38] <cpaelzer> version niceness - on update just "Unpacking python-html5lib (0.999999999-1)" passed by - really :-) ?
[07:40] <cpaelzer> rmadison on that looks funny http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V3rcYm77DK/
[07:40] <cpaelzer> seems to try to become a check for the max length of a version
[07:40]  * cpaelzer stops having fun now :-)
[13:59] <coreycb> jamespage: woo, zero fails on queens-proposed
[13:59] <jamespage> coreycb: awesome!
[13:59] <coreycb> jamespage: want to promote to -updates and get an announcement out?
[13:59] <jamespage> coreycb: I've been pushing everything through to updates :-)
[14:00] <jamespage> cinder just went
[14:00] <coreycb> jamespage: they are mostly no-ops at this point so i think that's fine
[14:00] <jamespage> last bit I think
[14:00] <jamespage> yeah that was my take
[14:00] <coreycb> jamespage: i'll start a doc
[14:02] <coreycb> jamespage: oh nova-lxd is still at rc1
[14:06] <jamespage> coreycb: hmmm
[14:06] <jamespage> tinwood: do we have a release for nova-lxd yet?
[14:11] <coreycb> jamespage: just giving a final look at horizon
[14:11] <jamespage> coreycb: always a good idea
[15:04] <coreycb> jamespage: seeing 2 issues with launching an instance. network doesn't show up as a selection and admin doesn't have a Launch Instance button.
[15:04] <coreycb> jamespage: on horizon, cli is fine
[16:02] <frickler> coreycb: jamespage: do you happen to have a sample for a git-build-recipe that builds for xenial based on UCA? would be great to have launchpad take over my builds ;)
[16:14] <jamespage> frickler: hmm
[16:14] <jamespage> frickler: not per say
[16:14] <jamespage> coreycb: ^^ ?
[16:16] <coreycb> frickler: i don't, sorry
[17:18] <mordof> when a process uses too much RAM, and the os/kernel/whatever kills it - does anyone know what signal it uses to kill that process? (is it something i could catch)?
[17:20] <jdr> oom killer?
[17:20] <jdr> i am sure its SIGKILL.
[17:26] <sdeziel> yeah, it's SIGKILL
[17:27] <mordof> :/  of course it is, heh
[17:28] <mordof> trying to write a script to handle some rather cpu/memory intensive stuff and distribute it across a bunch of machines, but i'm worried the memory use will mark it for death from the oom killer
[17:28] <mordof> and not sure how to handle that situation
[17:28] <mordof> i don't want the handler at the end which brings all the results together to wait forever
[17:30] <sdeziel> you can tune the oom_score for a given process
[17:30] <mordof> sdeziel: it's a type of process where - if left alone without a time limit - *will* run out of memory
[17:31] <sdeziel> mordof: I'm not sure about the "wait forever" part? Are you saying the handler would wait for a dead process?
[17:31] <mordof> so changing score will just change the time frame it'll take before it dies
[17:31] <mordof> i've got a central process which dispatches each of the tasks - and then waits for the results through redis or some other medium
[17:31] <mordof> i could kill it after several hours if nothing came through.. but.. that's not very nice
[17:32] <sdeziel> could the workers send a heart beat every so often?
[17:32] <sdeziel> if a worker doesn't report inside 3 heart beat time, you conclude it's dead
[17:33] <mordof> sdeziel: sometimes i wonder why my brain just doesn't come up with these things... i've done that in the past, why that didn't occur to me... lol
[17:33] <sdeziel> or even something simpler: just note the PID of the worker and when that PID is gone, conclude the process was reaped by OOM
[17:33] <mordof> true
[17:36] <mordof> sdeziel: heartbeat will be a bit easier to implement here i think - gonna go that route, and then tune parameters for performance as needed. thanks
[17:36] <sdeziel> mordof: glad I could help
[18:07] <nacc> dpb1: powersj: rbasak: fyi, it looks like there might be some significant chnages in snapcraft that will let us trim our snap back down
[18:07] <nacc> not an immediate priority, but eventually
[18:07] <powersj> sweet
[18:07] <dpb1> can also bundle the .pyc files
[18:12] <nacc> dpb1: yeah, i think we can actually trim a lot out, but i haven't had the cycles to figure out what yet
[18:12] <dpb1> backlog
[18:12] <dpb1> ya
[18:13] <nacc> our CI will help us make sure we don't break things in general, i hope
[21:50] <coreycb> jamespage: queens release announcement sent!
[22:50] <dpb1> coreycb: nice
[22:50] <dpb1> :)


[01:08] <libv> bjsnider: sadly for this hw i only have VGA out running atm.
[01:10] <libv> even though it really is a matter of allowing the vt3118 chipset to use the existing panel code
[01:11] <libv> crtcs and pll should be fine, but i might want to have a test run of the cursor on secondary/scaling
[01:51] <bjsnider> libv, so what driver would work best for him in your estimation?
[01:53] <libv> atm, openchrome
[01:53] <libv> although milage may vary, and he might have to play with the option to pick one of the three modesetting options
[01:54] <libv> s/options/paths/
[02:47] <bjsnider> libv, didn't you say you supported all hardware just shy of the newest one?
[02:47] <libv> bjsnider: yes, VGA only atm.
[02:47] <libv> bjsnider: crtcs and plls have been tested through
[02:48] <bjsnider> don't know what that alphabet soup means, except for vga
[02:48] <libv> bjsnider: if you think openchrome supports all hardware... well... they only support DVI that is integrated on the chip
[02:50] <libv> panel is the next todo, but then i got into working hw layouts into the code, to be able to map all things properly
[02:50] <bjsnider> maybe you should sign an NDA with via
[02:50] <bjsnider> hahaaa
[02:50] <libv> but then i went off and worked towards a unified graphics driver stack
[02:50] <libv> nah, i have enough info and enough hw
[02:51] <libv> just not enough time
[02:51] <libv> or too many projects for too little time
[17:15] <Sarvatt> new wacom in edgers tracking the devel branch with quite alot of fixes for serial tablets incase anyone was having problems with it
[17:19] <Sarvatt> turns out it wasn't the xkbcomp cache patch that the removal of ${SHA1_LIB} from XSERVER_SYS_LIBS was affecting but more likely 02_Add-libgcrypt-as-an-option-for-sha1.diff so debian will be affected too, building now with http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/0001-Add-back-missing-SHA1_LIB.patch
[17:32] <Sarvatt> that change fixes the xserver build \o/
[21:05] <dhansen7> is there any kind of pre-release proprietary ati driver available for ubuntu 10.04 alpha?
[21:33] <Sarvatt> dhansen7: no unfortunately
[21:35] <dhansen7> is there an eta?
[21:35] <dhansen7> hopefully they land before 10.04 gets released
[21:38] <Sarvatt> there's no eta either unfortunately outside of there being one expected to be ready before release, it could be the very last day before release until they are ready :(
[21:39] <Sarvatt> i'm going to go out on a limb and say I suspect it will be the april catalyst release that supports xserver 1.7 and they cant release that until given the go ahead by ati
[22:46] <bjsnider> there's another person over in +1 with that nvidia problem caused by moutning /usr on a separate partition
[23:29] <Sarvatt> tseliot is going to fix it
[23:29] <Sarvatt> just needs to be moved to /lib
[23:46] <bjsnider> yeah i know. i just wonder if all of the bellyaching i see in that channel from nvidia people is due to that issue
[23:46] <Sarvatt> this looks so interesting -- http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~krh/xserver/commit/?h=glamor-ddx&id=c6eabffab8f5ba52ea04cd2290ef59e7864c6d95