[00:07] <eMyller> menubar isn't working anymore. what's the deal? :\
[00:11] <eMyller> okay, sunday night... i should go take a walk as well.
[01:39] <ScottK-droid> rbelem, New mobile image on i386 to try.
[01:39] <rbelem> cool! \o/
[02:36] <ScottK> nixternal: Need the powerpc box again if you're around ...
[04:03] <nixternal> ScottK: still need it?
[04:03] <ScottK> nixternal: Yep.
[04:04] <nixternal> starting up now
[04:11] <ScottK> Thanks.
[04:13] <nixternal> np
[04:24] <ScottK> nixternal: All done.  I shut it down.  Thanks.
[04:33] <ScottK> Riddell: Dropping poxml for a bit (from kdesdk) was fine, but it's getting rather late in the game.  I've left you Bug 643198 and I'm off to bed.
[11:03] <maksbotan> hi people
[11:03] <maksbotan> can u help with pykde?
[11:03] <maksbotan> what args must be passed to KAuth.HelperSupport.helperMain?
[11:13] <markey> maksbotan: wrong channel I'd say. try #kde-python maybe?
[11:13] <markey> or #kde-bindings
[11:13] <markey> not sure
[11:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 641288 ... maybe libqapt exhausts the stack?
[11:19] <apachelogger> since it is reported to only happen after upgrade to ubuntu4 which transited to the new libqapt
[11:19] <apachelogger> also I do not see how given the limited work scope of kdi how it could exhaust the stack
[12:44] <RLa> how to create a new bug report for kubuntu?
[12:44] <Quintasan_Droid> O/
[12:46] <RLa> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs <- is it possible to it through this web page?
[12:52] <persia> RLa, You might try running `ubuntu-bug ${PACKAGE}`, or visiting http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/${PACKAGE}/+bugs : I'd suspect you'd get clearer support for filing bugs in #kubuntu or #kubuntu-bugs
[12:53] <RLa> never mind, i found out how
[12:57] <Quintasan_Droid> shadeslayer: kdeedu compiled, uploading recipe when I get home :P
[12:58] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[12:58] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_Droid: ill finish kdegraphics
[12:59] <apachelogger> WTF
[12:59] <apachelogger> likeback has super odd code
[12:59] <Quintasan_Droid> Great.  It seems that I will do Amarok soon
[13:00] <Riddell> Quintasan_Droid, shadeslayer: project neon moving up the KDE stack?
[13:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes!! :D
[13:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: maxb set up the imports for kdebase and kdesupport manually, and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Packaging
[13:01] <shadeslayer> he has a cron job which imports kdesupport and kdebase onto his pc and then pushes them to LP
[13:01] <shadeslayer> i just need to test build kdegraphics...
[13:03] <apachelogger> QStringList( acceptedLocales.mid( 0, acceptedLocales.count() - 1 ) ).join( ", " )
[13:03] <apachelogger> look
[13:03] <apachelogger> they made simple things look complicated
[13:03]  * apachelogger just loves that
[13:06]  * persia jumps up and down and prepares a debdiff
[13:06] <apachelogger> persia: done fixing KO?
[13:07] <persia> Finished last night, but it took 22 hours for me to do a complete rebuild from clean source on armel (all other architectures were faster, although powerpc ran out of space)
[13:07] <Quintasan_Droid> Riddell: everything went better than expected
[13:08] <Riddell> persia: ooh?!
[13:08] <Riddell> Quintasan_Droid: excellent
[13:09] <persia> Riddell, quilt patch is on 625204 if you want an advance look: debdiff will be up shortly.
[13:11] <apachelogger> sweetness
[13:12] <Riddell> persia: wow, that's a big patch
[13:13] <apachelogger> persia: cool
[13:14] <apachelogger> Sput: you were the one complaining about amarok havign a whitespace problem, right?
[13:14] <apachelogger> eh
[13:14] <persia> Riddell, There's only one interesting bit: for koffice-2.2.2/krita/plugins/paintops/spray/random_gauss.h Most of the rest is just cleanup for krita upstrream.  There's lots of doubles left, but they were never used as qreal, so I left them doubles in case there was a reason for it.
[13:14] <apachelogger> Sput: newline, not whitespace
[13:15] <Riddell> persia: did you check it actually runs?
[13:16] <persia> Um, so, like, if I start X on this thing, and move my mouse, and go get a cup of water, and come back, the pointer might have gotten there.
[13:16] <Riddell> ok we'll leave that for someone else :)
[13:16] <persia> I figure that having it build means that anyone who owns hardware fast enough can file bugs.
[13:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you have a idea how to resize a Qt widget to show more options by clicking a > in the main widget?
[13:24] <shadeslayer> > being a actual arrow in the widget...
[13:25] <apachelogger> resize()
[13:25] <shadeslayer> and how do i show the '>' ?
[13:25] <apachelogger> in fact if you change a child of a widget it should auto resize (that is if the sizehint of its children changes I think)
[13:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: qlabel for example
[13:26] <shadeslayer> mm
[13:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can really be any sort of widget
[13:26] <apachelogger> button of course would be an obvious choice
[13:26] <shadeslayer> it will resize itself?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> that is awesome
[13:26] <apachelogger> but generally you can implement a click event for every widget
[13:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if the new widgets are children of the parenting widget (e.g. the window widget)
[13:27] <shadeslayer> oh.. hmm
[13:27] <apachelogger> or if you add them to a layout that is parented by such a widget (in which case the sizehint of the layout changes I think)
[13:27] <shadeslayer> i basically want a > in the GUI and when you click it the arrow points downward displaying 4-5 checkboxes
[13:29] <apachelogger> well
[13:29] <apachelogger> that is just like a details >> button
[13:29] <apachelogger> and there are plenty of those design failures around ;)
[13:29] <shadeslayer> you mean i shouldnt use them? :P
[13:30] <shadeslayer> hmm.. idea..
[13:30] <apachelogger> depends on what you do with it and who is supposed to use it :P
[13:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: trying to make a zsync gui .. wanted to display options that can be passed to zsync
[13:31] <apachelogger> generally I do not think that windows changing size just display more crap was probably not a good idea
[13:31] <shadeslayer> maybe ill finish it before UDS... make a 0.1 release till then :P
[13:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do you have the other gui ready?
[13:31] <shadeslayer> which other GUI ?
[13:32] <apachelogger> well the non-option part
[13:32] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: screenie plz
[13:32] <shadeslayer> one sec
[13:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imgur.com/M00Wp : what it currently does is check if the link is a valid zsync link or not
[13:33] <shadeslayer> ill be removing the Options button
[13:33] <shadeslayer> and replacing it with checkboxes at the bottom...
[13:33] <apachelogger> and what for do you need the arrow then?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: this is a new direction im going at now :)
[13:34] <apachelogger> yeah
[13:34] <apachelogger> but why have the arrow?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> i was initially thinking that i can hide the options and when you click on > it shows them checkboxes
[13:34] <apachelogger> there is no use in it
[13:34] <shadeslayer> yep.. think so too now
[13:35] <shadeslayer> and what is the button that you click and it opens a file browser to select your download location?
[13:35] <apachelogger> and if you would want to go for good looking ness you might want to forget about the button concept and instead do the following
[13:35] <apachelogger> ...
[13:35] <apachelogger> once user entered/pasted url
[13:35] <apachelogger> you kick off a qanimnation
[13:35] <apachelogger> that fadingly expands the dialog to show the options
[13:35] <apachelogger> BUT
[13:35] <apachelogger> I do not think that makes any sort of sense for the target audience :P
[13:35]  * shadeslayer also plans a dropdown list offering K/X/Ubuntu ISO's
[13:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats just show off :P
[13:36] <apachelogger> surely would be a nice experience to program though ;)
[13:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: actually no, that also makes sense from a natural POV
[13:36] <shadeslayer> yus.. maybe after im done with QProcess and QCheckBoxes
[13:36] <apachelogger> a) by showing the options once the user added foo you give the options a direct context
[13:37] <apachelogger> b) by using an animation it feels less interrupting
[13:37] <shadeslayer> i have to figure out how to make QProgressBar render the reading of the ISO :P
[13:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i guess your right.. ill make the basic GUI for now, ill work on the QAnimation part later :)
[13:38] <shadeslayer> ->qtn00b
[13:38]  * apachelogger finds it more enjoyable to do fancy things :P
[13:38] <apachelogger> though my defintion of fancy is having a load of dbus objects with loads of custom data types :P
[13:40] <persia> shadeslayer, Take care: the flavour/architecture matrix changes each release cycle, so it's easy to get prepopulated dialogs out of date.  Maybe better to do some sort of parsing of the tree (or request the cdimage team to post a file with the current matrix which your tool can read)
[13:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: for the progressbar rendering I would derive the qprocess to parse stdout for the current progress (IIRC zsync displays the numeric value)... then emit that
[13:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tell me one thing... can i pass foo.zsync, where foo might be a URL or a local file?
[13:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: to zsync? I dunno.
[13:40] <shadeslayer> persia: yeah i was thinking the same during college
[13:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no to the URL bar you see in the dialog
[13:41] <persia> cdimage team accepts bugs at launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage :)
[13:41] <shadeslayer> i was thinking on the lines of isLocal() from QFileInfo
[13:41] <steveire> Is there a repo somewhere with recent Qt 4.7 packages?
[13:41] <shadeslayer> persia: hehe :P
[13:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what difference would it make to the call?
[13:42] <apachelogger> steveire: for karmic?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: theres a seprate option ... we need to call zsync -k for local foo.zsync files
[13:42] <shadeslayer> thats what the manpage says
[13:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh
[13:44] <apachelogger> isnt that for the target or something?
[13:44] <steveire> apachelogger: 10.04 I think
[13:44] <shadeslayer> thats would be -o i think
[13:44] <steveire> I think that's karmic
[13:44] <apachelogger> steveire: no, that is lucid
[13:45] <apachelogger> steveire: for 10.04 you just need the 4.5 backports
[13:45] <apachelogger> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[13:45] <apachelogger> then update and upgrade
[13:45] <apachelogger> that should pull in 4.7 rc or beta2
[13:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the manpage sez that -k is to define the local name
[13:46] <shadeslayer> ohhh
[13:46] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what do you use for the password field?
[13:49] <apachelogger> klineedit with password turned on
[13:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: or qlineedit if you want to be qt-only
[13:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah im trying to be qt only atm :)
[13:51] <shadeslayer> ill switch to K stuff once i understand the Q classes
[13:55] <steveire> apachelogger: Great. And the rc is already in 10.10?
[13:55] <apachelogger> steveire: yep
[13:55] <apachelogger> well actually a git snapshot after rc is in 10.10 I think
[13:56] <apachelogger> and will arrive in the 10.04 backport when KDE 4.5.2 gets released
[14:20] <apachelogger> ...likeback is seriously weird...
[14:31] <Sput> apachelogger: yes, it makes the code unreadable for me :P
[14:32] <Sput> in particular with *also* having detached braces
[14:47] <Quintasan> moar testbuilds
[15:08] <apachelogger> Sput: ahha ahhaaha
[15:09] <apachelogger> dude
[15:09] <apachelogger> I shall make you have a heart attack
[15:09] <Sput> I"M NOT GOING TO LOOK AT AMAROK CODE AGAIN!1!!
[15:09] <apachelogger> Sput: http://gitorious.org/kmess/likeback/blobs/master/frontend/likeback.cpp
[15:10] <apachelogger> I was like OMFGIH and then I was like NO WAY and then COFFEE... then I went to bed and got up roughly 12 hours later :P
[15:11] <Sput> yeah, seems kinda excessive indeed
[15:12] <apachelogger> Sput: check out the header
[15:12] <apachelogger> ^^
[15:12] <apachelogger> that is like ~
[15:12] <apachelogger> literally ~
[15:12] <apachelogger> just more top-downish
[15:12] <apachelogger> like a water fall maybe
[15:13] <Sput> well, it's documented at least...
[15:13] <Sput> but they also document the code well
[15:13] <Sput> // constructor
[15:14] <apachelogger> the ctor is uberdocumented
[15:14] <apachelogger>   // Initialize the button-bar:
[15:14] <apachelogger>   d->bar = new LikeBackBar( this );
[15:14] <apachelogger> oh I would not have guessed that :P
[15:15] <apachelogger> ^ that happens when you use emacs for emacs is an editor that does not provide you with neat features that allow you to easily navigate code :P
[15:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imgur.com/wAKix
[15:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are not setting a hostname there, are you? :P
[15:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats just a testcase :P
[15:16] <shadeslayer> the password is foobar ... LD
[15:16] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:16] <apachelogger> your test case is flawed :P
[15:16] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:17] <shadeslayer> now i work on the ACTUAL QProcess part ^_^
[15:17] <shadeslayer> i just realised.. i need a Quit Button there
[15:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw in your sponsorship email does the to field have a address ?
[15:21] <apachelogger> Amarok is now available as white lightning too
[15:21]  * shadeslayer needs to take a printout and cant find it on his
[15:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[15:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: id like it with a hint of blue :)
[15:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why do you need a printout?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: weird right?
[15:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: not really
[15:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: need it for the passport
[15:22] <apachelogger> mass mails often get sent with everyone in BCC
[15:22] <shadeslayer> well.. its optional really... but just thought it might help...
[15:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:22] <shadeslayer> that would explain it
[15:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why do you need a mail for a passport?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im getting it made in something called tatkal
[15:27] <shadeslayer> which means i get my passport in 3 days
[15:27] <shadeslayer> instead of the usual 21 days or more
[15:27] <shadeslayer> soo... they need some kind of proof that i have a genuine reason to get the passport made in such a hurry
[15:28] <apachelogger> ah
[15:28] <apachelogger> in austria you just need to pay more ^^
[15:28] <apachelogger> like 40 euros extra and you get it within a day I think
[15:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: that too :P
[15:28] <apachelogger> for another 40 extra you can get an intermediate passport right away
[15:28] <sheytan> Hey :D
[15:28] <shadeslayer> takes 1500 INR more
[15:28] <sheytan> How do i become a ubuntu member? :D
[15:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that is only 3 euros, lucky you ^^
[15:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lol no
[15:29] <apachelogger> sheytan: you bribe someone
[15:29] <shadeslayer> thats like ... 25 euros
[15:29] <sheytan> apachelogger really? :D
[15:29] <apachelogger> sheytan: mostly
[15:29] <shadeslayer> !member | sheytan
[15:29] <apachelogger> bulldog98: we need to have a talk about membership btw
[15:30] <shadeslayer> /tmp/buildd/project-neon-kdegraphics-0/ksnapshot/ksnapshot.cpp:70: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory >> yeah right
[15:30] <shadeslayer> already have xserver-xorg-dev
[15:30] <apachelogger> xfixes is not in there
[15:30] <apachelogger> you see
[15:30] <apachelogger> x is made out of a core
[15:30] <apachelogger> a core that hasnt changed in 20 years
[15:30] <apachelogger> well, maybe 100 lines of it changed or so
[15:30] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:30] <apachelogger> and around it they stuck a billion billion plugins
[15:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: which package? ubottu said xserver-xorg-dev ..
[15:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I think it is in another one
[15:31] <apachelogger> !find Xfixes.h maverick
[15:31] <shadeslayer> !search Xfixes.h
[15:31] <apachelogger> see
[15:31] <shadeslayer> oh :P
[15:31] <apachelogger> liar!!!!
[15:31] <apachelogger> blaming ubottu.... that is no way to treat a bot
[15:32] <shadeslayer> hehe.. i guess the keyword was maverick
[15:32] <apachelogger> !find Xfixes.h lucid
[15:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no :P
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ...
[15:32] <apachelogger> you were just looking for someone to blame, and the bot seemed like an easy enough target
[15:32] <apachelogger> but you did not know that I know how to operate the bot :P
[15:33] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[15:33] <shadeslayer> whats the difference between !search and !find ?
[15:33] <apachelogger> !help search
[15:33] <apachelogger> !help find
[15:33] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[15:33] <apachelogger> !search
[15:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: search is for factoids :P
[15:34] <apachelogger> find is for puc
[15:34] <shadeslayer> oic
[15:51] <sheytan> is someone packageing amarok? :)
[15:52] <apachelogger> !find perldoc
[15:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats the icon name i should pass to setIcon for a download icon?
[15:53] <apachelogger> I dunno
[15:53] <apachelogger> look it up in oxygen
[15:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have to put the whole path in the setIcon function?
[15:55] <mfraz74> Now that Amarok 2.3.2 has been released will this go into Maverick and Lucid's backports PPA?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: Maverick... probably no
[15:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: depends on the seticon you are talking about
[15:57] <Riddell> mfraz74: it's already in maverick
[15:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its from QPushButton
[15:57] <mfraz74> Riddell: cheers
[15:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, look at the signature :P
[15:58] <apachelogger> if it accepts something stringish then you can pass a path
[15:58] <apachelogger> if not you cannot
[15:58] <apachelogger> in any case you should not pass full paths to icons
[16:31] <Riddell> ah, dantti
[16:32] <Riddell> dantti: what are these packagekit patches I need to look at?
[16:33] <dantti> Riddell: hey :) yesterday I worked all day on a 2nd job, and then at night my 1st job asked me to work all night :P at least I have all day free
[16:33] <dantti> Riddell: what do you prefer that I point the commits or that I send you the patches?
[16:33]  * Riddell respect.
[16:34] <Riddell> dantti: either is fine
[16:34] <dantti> Riddell: packagekit is now on gitorious if I didn't tell you so I think this makes packaging a bit easier (dunno) http://gitorious.org/packagekit/packagekit
[16:35] <Riddell> it's all git, it's all confusing :)
[16:36] <dantti> http://gitorious.org/packagekit/packagekit/commit/58e5b2b56250d1a7580831ea17d6161f84b00ef7
[16:36] <dantti> http://gitorious.org/packagekit/packagekit/commit/68eb126106c26d324645fe0a3d0f1d982ba661e5
[16:36] <dantti> http://gitorious.org/packagekit/packagekit/commit/c79e2f6f705d45379c6fab9939681a3aa34daaa5
[16:36] <dantti> the last one just make some warnings about obsolete code in apt go away...
[16:37] <dantti> the 2nd is an important fix in pk-qt
[16:37] <dantti> and the first I added the Fonts group in aptcc
[16:39] <dantti> Riddell: about kpk did you find any issues? I'm changing how the model works to make huge calls be faster, it's almost done, and then I'll try to fix the question mark icons tha I don't know yet why they are appearing...
[16:39] <sheytan> Quintasan Hey, sure i can :D
[16:39] <dantti> sheytan: hey :)
[16:40] <sheytan> dantti heya :D
[16:41] <ScottK> sheytan: I saw you asked about becoming an Ubuntu member.  You could also become a Kubuntu member (which includes Ubuntu membership) by applying to the Kubuntu Council instead of one of the regional membership boards.
[16:42] <sheytan> ScottK actually i was looking for Kubuntu member :D Thought it's the same :)
[16:43] <ulysses> sheytan: maybe it's the same, but a @kubuntu.org alias is more cool than an @ubuntu.com:)
[16:43] <sheytan> yeah :D
[16:46] <ScottK> Kubuntu membership is superior because it lets you participate in Kubuntu specific stuff (like Kubuntu Council elections) in addition to all the normal Ubuntu member stuff.
[16:50] <maco> sheytan: and you can use the ~kubuntu-members bzr branches to make changes for later upload
[16:50] <shadeslayer_> i really really do need a core :|
[16:50] <sheytan> ScottK i readed the ubuntu member page but i still don't know how to join :D
[16:51] <sheytan> Could you link me somwhere i can do this? :)
[16:51] <maco> sheytan: for kubuntu member, you show up to a Kubuntu Council meeting
[16:51] <shadeslayer> ^ something we havent had for a long time
[16:51] <maco> shadeslayer: i think they tend to be scheduled when someone wants to become a member :P
[16:52] <shadeslayer> maco: or a dev :P
[16:52] <sheytan_> maco where are usually those meetings? :D
[16:52] <maco> here or #ubuntu-meeting
[16:52] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: here or #ubuntu-meeting
[16:52] <maco> depending on whether #ubuntu-meeting is already taken by someone else
[16:52] <sheytan_> maco cool, and when is the next one? :D
[16:53] <CIA-116> [scripts] sitter * 1177571 * trunk/KDE/kdesdk/scripts/astyle-kdelibs set property svn:exectuable SVN_SILENT
[16:53] <maco> not scheduled yet
[16:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: stop avoiding me :P
[16:53] <maco> poke Riddell or someone to make a poll for meeting times
[16:53] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: or make one yourself and post in kubuntu-devel ML
[16:53] <apachelogger> whut?
[16:54] <sheytan_> ok, cool, thank you :)
[16:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats that class called? the one which opens File Browsers and
[16:54] <shadeslayer> lets you save stuff
[16:54] <apachelogger> kfiledialog?
[16:54] <apachelogger> qfiledialog?
[16:54] <shadeslayer> will have to check
[16:55] <apachelogger> tsimpson: I know, I am annoying, but it would be cool if ubottu could also search Qt documentation ;)
[16:56] <sheytan_> btw, i had a crazy idea today, already shared with ofirk. It's about a video for our new web page :D
[16:56] <sheytan_> The idea is that devs and some users could record themselfs saying 'hi i'm ... and i'm using kubuntu' :D
[16:56] <sheytan_> and we put that all videos into one and share that on the site :D
[16:56] <sheytan_> what do you think? :D
[16:57] <ScottK> If I'm in it, it would scare away users.
[16:57] <shadeslayer> maybe we could do that at UDS :P
[16:57] <apachelogger> I am against having ScottK in there too :P
[16:58] <maco> ScottK: not if you put your sourpuss away for the video. if we give you ice cream beforehand, can you do that?
[16:58] <sheytan_> come on guys :D
[16:58] <sheytan_> This won't scare anyone :D
[16:58] <sheytan_> shadeslayer, those of you who will be at USD can do this :P
[16:59] <sheytan_> But not every one will be there :)
[16:59]  * shadeslayer will force ubuntu devs to say kubuntu
[16:59] <apachelogger> maco: do I get some ice cream too?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im bringing along my whole collection of shipit CD's :D
[17:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: now why did you let them ship it to you in the first place :P
[17:00] <shadeslayer> i dont have a 10.04 release shipit CD tho..
[17:00] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:01] <apachelogger> hm, now I almost git commited this channel :P
[17:01] <apachelogger> alt+tab is a major sin of today's life
[17:06] <sheytan_> the video we would put here http://i.imgur.com/srjtM.jpg :D
[17:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does QVBoxLayout resize buttons if i have a custom button size set?
[17:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: depends on the sizing policy and minimum/maximum size
[17:09] <apachelogger> of both
[17:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/sAe8gch4
[17:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are leaking memory
[17:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dont care as of noq
[17:11] <shadeslayer> leaky mem can be fixed laterz
[17:11]  * apachelogger notes that 3/10 leaks will be forgotten
[17:11] <shadeslayer> right now i want it to work :P
[17:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so what should I be looking at?
[17:11] <ScottK> Leaking memory like a sieve doesn't qualify as works.
[17:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer:  also I think we already once found a way to get the file ending ... :P    if(url->text().trimmed().endsWith(".zsync"))
[17:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats with QFileInfo, i just did this one with QLineEdit functions
[17:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: line 19
[17:13] <shadeslayer> i need a pushbutton of a small size, like the ones KDE has
[17:13] <shadeslayer> when that button is clicked i shall call QFileDialog
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/project-neon-kdegraphics-ubuntu
[17:14] <shadeslayer> kdegraphics done ...
[17:17] <shadeslayer> oh craps..
[17:17] <shadeslayer> wrong bzr branch
[17:18] <Riddell> dantti: one minor issue, the edit origins button opens the new window but it isn't attached as a dialogue, we used --attach <WinID> to make software-properties-kde behave as a dialogue
[17:18] <sheytan_> shadeslayer you propably will know - does rekonq support html5 video?
[17:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: your pushy button will most likely be resized
[17:18] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: yes..
[17:18] <apachelogger> but you will see that at testing will you not?
[17:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: by layout right?
[17:18] <sheytan_> shadeslayer cool, thanks :D
[17:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes
[17:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, technically by it's size hint
[17:18] <shadeslayer> layout resize overrides my pushy button
[17:19] <dantti> Riddell: well apachelogger said to use startService by name which afaik does not allow to add that, let me check again
[17:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdegraphics-ubuntu
[17:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if you tell it to use a policy of minimum expansion then it will try to be as small as possible and the layout will hence try ot fix it into a size that the button can be as small as possible and use the rest of the space for everything else in the layout
[17:20] <apachelogger> dantti: you could find the exec by name and then attach the attach to it
[17:20] <shadeslayer> QToolButton to the rescue :P
[17:20] <apachelogger> it is ewwwy eitherway
[17:20] <Riddell> dantti: yeah, it's not too important
[17:21] <dantti> Riddell: k, weird searches that are really big now crashes :P can you try searching for 's' just to see if the slow mode does not crash?
[17:24] <Riddell> slow..
[17:25] <shadeslayer_> i managed to destroy amarok UI : http://imgur.com/Hi1B8 \o/
[17:25] <apachelogger> noo
[17:26] <apachelogger> that happens when you drink too much moonshine :D
[17:26] <Riddell> dantti: works
[17:26] <dantti> Riddell: k, I think I found the problem I should return 0 columns when the model is empty, now it does not crash..
[17:26] <dantti> Riddell: thanks for testing :)
[17:26] <Riddell> dantti: I take it there's no way of browsing non application packages except through searching for them?
[17:28] <dantti> Riddell: well yes, the only way we it could be was searching in pk groups, or I could add something like "Installed Packages" named "All Packages" were all available + installed were returned
[17:29] <dantti> do you think this is important?
[17:31] <Riddell> dantti: it seems quite sensible to me actually
[17:31] <Riddell> you browse applications but you don't tend to browse the whole package list
[17:32] <dantti> Riddell: yes, imo when I want to search for packages I already kind of know it's name
[17:33] <dantti> browsing for apps is cool cause you actually are searching for new things that you don't know it exists
[17:41] <shadeslayer_> ive had enuf of Qt for today ... im sleeping :P
[17:48] <sheytan_> Quintasan: do you have any kde 4.6 packages in neo yet?
[17:54] <Riddell> I presume they're all trunk
[18:09] <Riddell> hi rbelem, did the samba support get anywhere?
[18:11]  * ScottK misread drunk for trunk and wondered what apachelogger had done now.
[18:12] <rbelem> hi Riddell, if we still can add it to this release, i can finish it on the next days(until friday)
[18:13] <rbelem> Riddell, sorry for did not finish it :(
[18:15] <Riddell> rbelem: hard to say if it could get in, can't guarantee anything now, but since it's in an area which is already broken then probably yes
[18:15] <rbelem> Riddell, cool! :-)
[18:19] <ScottK> mgraesslin: I've got test reports that your software rasterizer fix solved our problem.  Thanks again.
[18:19] <mgraesslin> cool
[18:22] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ping
[18:32] <ScottK> Is our kmymoney linked against libaqbanking?  There's a bug in Debian about that not being the case there.
[18:58] <dantti> is it normal to install libqt4-dbg and everything starts to crash?
[18:59] <Riddell> dantti: nope
[19:00] <dantti> Riddell: I was trying to find what QTreeView does that crashes, and then every qt app crashed here, I even restarted and kdm crashed too :P
[19:01] <Riddell> sure your libqt4-dbg version matches your libqt version?
[19:04] <dantti> Riddell: yup 4:4.7.0~rc1+git20100917-0ubuntu1, everything is up2date here
[19:07] <ScottK> Riddell: Should I accept packagekit and kpackagekit?
[19:09] <dantti> and the backtrace only shows seg fault after installing it, I guess there is some problem with the package
[19:11] <Riddell> ScottK: yes please
[19:12] <Riddell> dantti: no problems here with libqt4-dbg installed
[19:12] <dantti> Riddell: amd64?
[19:12] <dantti> here after a short time plasma starts to crash, and does not start anymore
[19:13] <Riddell> i386
[19:14] <dantti> well donnu how can I help in this case
[19:14] <dantti> *dunno
[19:16] <ScottK> Riddell: (and dantti) accepted.
[19:16] <dantti> ScottK: thanks
[19:16] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[19:26] <Riddell> for qtwebkit I'm told 4.7.0 is tagged as qtwebkit-2.0.0
[19:27] <Riddell> however I've no idea how to get a tag out of git
[19:30] <ScottK> Sput: ^^^ could we have a git tech assist please.
[19:36] <dantti> Riddell: isn't just git checkout tag_name?
[19:39] <Riddell> >git checkout qtwebkit-2.0.0
[19:39] <Riddell> fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
[19:39] <Riddell> nope
[19:39] <Riddell> git clone git://gitorious.org/webkit/webkit.git keeps giving me EOF
[19:41] <dantti> git tag will list the tags, if it's there git checkout should work i think
[19:42] <dantti> yup it's what git-checkout manual says at least
[19:45] <Riddell> I'll try the clone again, third time lucky
[19:46] <dantti> Riddell: isn't qtwebkit here ? http://gitorious.org/+qtwebkit-developers/webkit/qtwebkit/commits/qtwebkit-2.0
[19:46] <dantti> there I see that tag
[19:47] <Riddell> I was following http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKitContrib
[19:48] <dantti> right, well I don't know webkit develpment's so i'm probably wrong
[19:59] <neversfelde> seems that I am back online with my mobile phone
[20:00] <neversfelde> Riddell: is your server available again?
[20:02] <Riddell> neversfelde: could be
[20:02] <Riddell> wanting to do some packaging?
[20:02] <neversfelde> Riddell: yes :)
[20:03] <neversfelde> I guess someone is working on Amark packages?
[20:03] <neversfelde> if not, I could do
[20:04] <neversfelde> +o
[20:13] <Riddell> neversfelde: we have them in maverick, still needs doing for lucid
[20:14] <neversfelde> ok, I will not manage to do it today, have to work tomorrow
[20:14] <neversfelde> and I still love to say this :)
[20:14] <neversfelde> but I have time the next evening
[21:45] <ryanakca> Hurray, handed out 225 Kubuntu CDs to university students :)
[21:49] <afiestas__> Hi, where can I see the source code of bluedevil package'
[21:49] <afiestas__> ?
[21:50] <ulysses> afiestas__: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/bluedevil/maverick/files
[21:50] <afiestas__> perfect, thanks
[21:51] <Riddell> afiestas__: looking for something?
[21:52] <afiestas__> yes, if it has the last patch which fix a crash
[21:52] <afiestas__> and it does :p so everything perfect
[21:52] <afiestas__> just pushing/releasing RC4-1
[21:59] <Riddell> persia: krita still doing it's thing with your patch, I'll upload
[22:44] <ScottK> Riddell: I accepted it.
[22:44] <ScottK> persia: ^^^
[22:46] <Riddell> this time tomorrow we'll have koffice on arm!
[23:14] <persia> Riddell, ScottK: Thanks..  Is anything else of particular interest, while I have my qreal hunting skills in top shape?
[23:21] <Riddell> persia: koffice trunk :(
[23:21] <Riddell> the patch doesn't apply in most places
[23:22] <persia> :(
[23:24] <persia> http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Building/Building_KOffice is accurate? (ignoring the obviously incorrect reference to koffice-kde4)
[23:29] <Riddell> persia: yes
[23:29] <persia> Might be a bit :)


[04:25] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:16] <ducasse> \o
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> hey hey ducasse
[07:16] <ducasse> morning, lotuspsychje - how are you?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> great here, what about you?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> working day later on
[07:17] <ducasse> good, i think - still tired :)
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> :p long night?
[07:18] <ducasse> no, just not awake yet :)
[07:18]  * lotuspsychje slides over a hot belgian coffee
[07:18] <ducasse> :)
[07:18] <ducasse> when do you start work today?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> 12
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> late shift
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> till 18h today
[07:19] <ducasse> good, not too early :)
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah time for rich breakfast
[07:21] <ducasse> go eat, i need to check my email
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> okay :p
[08:24] <EriC^^> hey ducasse
[08:25] <ducasse> \o EriC^^
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks


[03:57] <ChinnoDog> nap soon
[06:53] <InHisName> gone down for a nap yet ?
[06:54] <InHisName> anyone who can advise fixing any erorrs in setting up bind would be helpful  http://pastebin.ca/2048322
[06:54] <PennBot> Title: pastebin - Untitled - post number 2048322 (at pastebin.ca)
[14:12] <knightzero> Morning all
[14:22] <JonathanD> hi
[14:24] <andrew> morning
[14:26] <knightzero> How is everyone on this chilly morning?
[14:38] <andrew> At work
[14:38] <andrew> oh, how
[14:38] <andrew> doing fine
[14:58] <JonathanD> chilly
[14:59]  * teddy-dbear is just chillin'
[15:00] <ChinnoDog> hungry, headachy
[15:19] <ChinnoDog> Gotta clear my work for the morning so I can hit the local coffee shop
[16:31] <ChinnoDog> mm, chai latte
[16:31] <knightzero> Sounds like a good start to the morning, ChinnoDog.
[16:33] <ChinnoDog> Yes. Got a long john too. There is a coffee shop up the road I like.
[16:34] <ChinnoDog> I can only go when I am working from home though.
[16:58] <jrmy> any of you know how to make the computer select a different audio card?
[16:58] <jrmy> ive got my onboard and a soundcard i just put in.. i also reran alsaconfig or whatever the actual command is
[16:59] <jrmy> but i can only get sound from my onboard.. i guess im dumb and didnt realise you cant actually select the sound card in alsamixere
[16:59] <jrmy> -e
[16:59] <andrew> hrm
[16:59] <knightzero> Sound preferences>hardware to confirm that both are detected, then I set my output via the output tab in the same window.
[16:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> jrmy:  out of curiosity, what's the sound card you just put in?
[17:00] <jrmy> where is sound preferences?
[17:00] <jrmy> its a sb live card or something
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> soundblaster?
[17:00] <jrmy> ive used it before
[17:00] <jrmy> yeah
[17:00] <jrmy> should be soundblaster
[17:00] <knightzero> I'm going by gnome here, but i click the audio icon on the toolbar
[17:00] <knightzero> and sound preferences is at the bottom of the dropdown.
[17:00] <jrmy> yeah ive got an xfce gui
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> jrmy:  System > Administration > Hardware Drivers (10.04)
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> oooh
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> xfce
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> i wonder where I put my 10.10 image...
[17:01] <jrmy> sorry should mention that
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> no no its fine
[17:01] <jrmy> oh and i have 10.04
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> i have a vbox'd xfce image here somewhere...
[17:01] <jrmy> seeing as 10.10 wouldnt work on this
[17:01]  * TheEvilPhoenix runs in his terminal 'locate xubuntu'
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh... that's unsettling
[17:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> it seems my system is purging files without my knowledge...
[17:02]  * TheEvilPhoenix redownloads a 10.04 xubuntu image
[17:02] <jrmy> i suppose i could record audio with my onboard.. but i dont know if it'll work well enough
[17:03] <jrmy> and i want at least 48khz
[17:03] <knightzero> jrmy: do you have gnome on the sytem at all - if so, you might be able to run gnome-sound-properties from the CLI.
[17:03] <jrmy> which the sb card can do
[17:03] <jrmy> CLI?
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> command line
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> aka
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> TERMINAL
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> whoops caps
[17:03] <jrmy> oh..
[17:03] <jrmy> never heard it as cli bnefore
[17:04] <knightzero> That's just me being too lazy to type words. :)  Terminal is what I meant there.
[17:04] <jrmy> nope i think the only gnome programs i have are the system monitor and maybe a image viewer
[17:05] <jrmy> i may have installed another but its been awhile since ive used this computer
[17:06] <jrmy> .. wish i had more ram..
[17:06] <jrmy> 128MB does not cut it
[17:06] <jrmy> dont think i have enough to upgrade right now either
[17:06] <jrmy> at least i thought a 512 stick was liek $50
[17:08] <jrmy> i guess in some ways i'd rather use ubuntu seeing as i liek how it runs in comparison to xubuntu
[17:09] <jrmy> but obviously cant run it well enough on this computer
[17:09] <knightzero> jrmy: what kind of memory are you looking for?  If its DDR you need, I might have a spare 128/256 stick - not much of an upgrade, but I'm willing to part with it for free.
[17:10] <jrmy> umm sd pc 133 i think it is
[17:10] <jrmy> i believe the first sd ram
[17:10] <jrmy> dunno never looked into it that much
[17:10] <knightzero> notebook or desktop?  I might have some of that on hand as well.
[17:10] <jrmy> my computer is kinda old
[17:10] <jrmy> desktop
[17:11] <jrmy> i woudl of said the pin amount but i dont remember the number
[17:11] <knightzero> I'll put in a reminder to check my memory stash when I get home.  I might be able to help you out with a small memory boost at least.
[17:12] <jrmy> ok cool.. yeah i had more then 128 but i found out that one of the sticks had errors which was causing the computer to run improperly
[17:12] <jrmy> was probably a 256
[17:12] <jrmy> which sucks.. lol
[17:13] <jrmy> yeah i think ive had 2 256 sticks go bad on me
[17:13] <jrmy> weird
[17:14] <jrmy> so i guess i could install gnome sound properties
[17:14] <jrmy> unless maybe theres a better solution to my problem
[17:14] <knightzero> Before you do that, try running xfce4-mixer from the terminal
[17:15] <knightzero> I'm grasping at straws here, but it's worth a shot.
[17:16] <jrmy> it was actually xfce4-mixer
[17:16] <jrmy> but yeH it worked
[17:17] <jrmy> now to see if it switched my soundcard
[17:17] <ChinnoDog> PC133? Your computer must be prehistoric.
[17:17] <jrmy> pen3 @ 900mhz
[17:19] <jrmy> hmm still not working.. sound is still coming out of my onboard
[17:21] <jrmy> ChinnoDog: i'd love to upgrade.. just comnputers are to expensive.. i actually found this one on the street to be thrown out
[17:21] <jrmy> had some spyware and viruses so i reinstalled the OS
[17:21] <ChinnoDog> aww, you rescued a homeless computer
[17:22] <jrmy> well its better then my old desktop
[17:22] <jrmy> i still liek finding free computers
[17:23] <jrmy> and until i could get $1k i'll take just about anything
[17:23] <knightzero> My intro to open source came the same way, thanks to an old Pentium I found next to a dumpster.  Homeless computers are fun to resurrect.
[17:23] <jrmy> besides its fun building a computer
[17:23] <jrmy> agreed
[17:24] <jrmy> another channel said i could rmmod the onboard module.. but i dont know if i'd want to do that
[17:24] <jrmy> they stopped helping though
[17:25] <jrmy> thats why im talking in this one
[17:25] <knightzero> You know, I just thought of something - if your secondary card isn't functioning, there's a possibility that its a hardware limitation.
[17:26] <knightzero> I know my old PIII laptop had a USB 1.1 port - my logitech USB headset detected, but wouldn't function no matter what I did.
[17:26] <jrmy> well that would only be the case because of limited ram
[17:26] <jrmy> ive used this card before i removed the stick
[17:27] <knightzero> Hmm.  That theory is out the window, then.
[17:27] <jrmy> i only had to remove it because i thought it was causing problems..
[17:29] <jrmy> i think it was working when i reinstalled xubuntu 10.04 but after idk now
[17:29] <jrmy> -after
[17:30] <jrmy> suppose i can try recording with my onboard then
[17:31] <knightzero> That might be your best best if switching between isn't working - I'm stumped on why that would stop working suddenly, though.
[17:31] <jrmy> well thanks anyways
[17:32] <jrmy> i'll be back some other time
[18:07] <Irishmanluke> any life fans around?
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> I like to live
[18:08] <Irishmanluke> game of life
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> You didn't say that
[18:08] <Irishmanluke> well I'm saying it now
[18:10] <andrew> as in the milton bradley game?
[18:14] <InHisName> anyone who can advise fixing any erorrs in setting up bind would be helpful  http://pastebin.ca/2048322
[18:14] <PennBot> Title: pastebin - Untitled - post number 2048322 (at pastebin.ca)
[19:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> any of you know if its possible to install XFCE desktop alongside Gnome desktop without breaking one or the other?
[19:19] <andrew> Yes it is
[19:19] <andrew> You select which you want to log into at the login screen
[19:23] <jedijf> @later tell jrmy disable onboard audio in *bios*
[19:23] <PennBot> jedijf: The operation succeeded.
[19:24] <andrew> sounds like a workaround
[19:25] <jedijf> no, a work around is removing the module....this way the module never loads, nothing to choose, assuming the plug in is recognized/works
[19:26] <andrew> No, the operating system should be able to send output to whichever sound device is desired.
[19:26] <jedijf> it can....jrmy can't
[19:27] <jedijf> sometimes the path of least resistance works best...at least for *my* own mental health...and then if/when they get to that level they can do it themselves
[20:22] <jedijf> site's up: http://fubarlabs.com/
[20:22] <PennBot> Title: FUBAR labs (at fubarlabs.com)
[20:25] <jedijf> wrong channel
[20:25] <jedijf> state too
[22:10] <InHisName> High there jedijf still reading ?
[22:12] <InHisName> Nope not that active this second, prolly driving somewhere.


[10:53] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[13:52] <pwuertz> Hi, Ubuntu 14.10 now provides Qt5.3, however the new QtWebSocket module is missing. How would one report a missing packet or missing function in Qt5.3?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> pwuertz: Possibly can't be introduced after FF
[14:00] <shadeslayer> pwuertz: I'd recommend sending a email to ubuntu-devel
[16:08] <tgm4883> Is there a trick to getting 14.10 running on virtualbox? I've tried the latest daily and the beta (and some other flavors as well) but the best I get is a garbled wide multi-colored screen
[16:18] <SuperLag> tgm4883: don't use vbox? :)
[16:19] <tgm4883> SuperLag: I suppose I could fire up a VM on my ESXi cluster, but it seems a shame I can't just throw together a quick VM to test if 1 simple bug is fixed
[16:53] <SuperLag> tgm4883: Sorry. My response was tongue-in-cheek, and unhelpful. :/ I just got burned by vbox a while back.  (Fusion/Workstation/ESXi)
[16:53] <tgm4883> SuperLag: I've fired it up on my esxi cluster, so at least that works and confirms that my package upgrade didn't resolve the issue
[17:05] <elfy> tgm4883: when do you get the garbled screen?
[17:06] <elfy> before you get to the try/install choice? I've got past that under the same circumstance by going to vt1 and then back to vt7
[17:40] <tgm4883> elfy: yep, right when you would expect to see that
[17:40] <tgm4883> I'll give that a shot
[17:49] <Vault108> question how do i downgrade y kernel to 3.13 from 3.16 the update broke my wifi
[17:52] <lordievader> Vault108: Install Trusty. I got a feeling that lots of things will break when you give Utopic a 3.13 kernel.
[17:52] <Vault108> i was on a 3.13 kernel then i decided to upgrade, to see what changed and now no wifi,
[17:53] <Vault108> the Distro is Deepin 14.1
[17:53] <trism> Vault108: alternatively try the 3.17 rc from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and see if it fixes your problem, and file a bug
[17:54] <Vault108> will do
[17:54] <elfy> tgm4883: I just booted today's xub daily - not seeing it now here
[17:56] <lordievader> Vault108: Deepin?
[17:57] <Vault108> lordievader: are you asking me what deepin is or if im using deepin?
[17:58] <lordievader> Both.
[17:59] <Vault108> lordievader: Yes im running deepin, and Deepin (formerly Linux Deepin, Hiweed GNU/Linux) is an Ubuntu-based distribution that aims to provide an elegant, user-friendly and reliable operating system. It does not only include the best the open source world has to offer, but it has also created its own desktop environment called DDE or Deepin Desktop Environment which is based on HTML 5 technologies. Deepin focuses much of its atte
[17:59] <Vault108> *home-grown applications, like Deepin Software Centre, DMusic and DPlayer are tailored to the average user. Being easy to install and use, Deepin can be a good Windows alternative for office and home use.
[18:01] <Vault108> trism: as far as trying the 3.17 rc what one do i need i have the generic amd64 and the all deb any others
[18:02] <Vault108> *headers i assume that i need the image as well?
[18:03] <trism> Vault108: you should only need the amd64 generic image, unless you need to build some drivers with dkms and then you need both the all headers and the amd64 ones
[18:09] <lordievader> Vault108: You know derivatives are not officially supported here? (It's kind of like asking support for Ubuntu in #debian)
[18:12] <Vault108> lordievader: even if deepin is bassed off ubuntu? and i m sorry for that.
[18:16] <lordievader> Vault108: Hence the Debian thing, Ubuntu is based on Debian...
[18:16] <lordievader> We don't know what Deepin changed or has not changed.
[18:17] <Vault108> i understand, i think i got what i neeeded, i will go back to the shadows now
[18:17] <lordievader> ;)
[18:17] <Vault108> lordievader: if i have ubuntu questions ill make sure to come here and not go to the debian IRC LOL
[18:20] <lordievader> Vault108: You do that :)


[05:37] <Kilos> morning all
[05:39] <Squirm> hiya
[06:12] <superfly> Kilos: slaap jy nog? :-P
[06:17] <Kilos> lol nee superfly gaan dit goed daar
[06:17] <Kilos> ek begin kos maak
[06:17] <Kilos> maybe bolognaise tonight
[06:18] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg_w
[06:18] <Kilos> hehe beat her
[06:18] <Kilos> she dont like being distracted
[06:19] <Kilos> i wish xchat would actually show the smileys so i can see who sticks tongue out at me
[07:19] <Vince-0> Heyo
[07:19] <Vince-0> Kilos, wat mekeer
[07:19] <Kilos> met wat Vince-0 ?
[07:28] <Vince-0> ag I dunno, just felt like typing that - don't really know what it means
[07:28] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:29] <Kilos> als goed hier dankie en daar?
[07:29] <Kilos> you not south african Vince-0
[07:29] <Kilos> ?
[07:29] <Vince-0> Vincent Swart - ja baie South African
[07:30] <Vince-0> maar meer n soutie
[07:30] <Kilos> aha
[07:31] <Vince-0> should be doing work, meh
[07:32] <Vince-0> installing Vicidial whoot
[07:57] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[07:57] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[08:00]  * staticrat waves hello
[08:00]  * Kilos waves back
[08:00] <staticrat> how you kilos?
[08:01] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:01] <staticrat> good just busy but it's a good thing
[08:01] <Kilos> ya
[08:01] <staticrat> so I'm back on the projector thing
[08:02] <staticrat> need a few Q answered
[08:02] <staticrat> when I connect the projector to my notebook
[08:02] <Kilos> state the case and hang till a guy who knows gets to ya
[08:04] <staticrat> under system settings > displays
[08:04] <staticrat> it shows that there are two monitors. I have display on my notebook screen and there is display at the projector
[08:05] <staticrat> however the display on the projector shows my workspace but does not show any running programs i.e. if my browser is open on one workspace this does not show via the projector
[08:06] <staticrat> I have to go to system settings > display and enable "mirror displays" to have the projector show what is open on my workspace
[08:07] <staticrat> hope this makes sense to you folks
[08:08] <staticrat> I would like to display what ever is open on my workspace without enabling the mirror display settings
[08:09] <staticrat> can this be done?
[08:10]  * staticrat waiting patiently :-)
[08:34] <barrydk> Goodmorning everyone
[08:44] <Kilos> hi barrydk jrgns
[08:48] <superfly> staticrat: no
[08:54] <staticrat> just no
[08:54] <staticrat> so I have to enable the mirror display? that is the correct method?
[08:58] <superfly> yes
[09:14] <inetpro> goeie more
[09:14] <Kilos> lo inetpro welkom
[09:15]  * inetpro just noticed that highvoltage has become the new maintainer of the old gnome panel
[09:15] <Kilos> hehe doesnt he like unity
[09:16] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[09:16] <inetpro> Kilos: he still has gnome panel as the default for edubuntu
[09:16] <Kilos> hehe
[09:16] <inetpro> or perhaps as an option
[09:17]  * inetpro should perhaps read that blog again
[09:21] <Kilos> peeps should all try kde. then unity is a snap
[09:21]  * Kilos hides
[09:24] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[09:24] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[09:24] <Kilos> wakey wakey
[09:25] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos ... so what are we trolling about today?
[09:25] <Kilos> lol
[09:25] <Kilos> teasing the kde guys
[09:26] <nlsthzn> ah :)
[09:30] <inetpro> Kilos: you can tease as much as you like
[09:30]  * inetpro still prefers kde
[09:31] <Kilos> haha
[09:32] <inetpro> and you are welcome to use anything else
[09:32] <Kilos> inetpro, you are so kind
[09:32] <Kilos> i have a 500g and an 80g with kde on
[09:33] <Kilos> the 500 is ians though
[09:33] <Kilos> he loves kde
[09:42] <inetpro> Kilos: how much rain did you get?
[09:42]  * inetpro just got 2.5mm
[09:43] <Kilos> 1mm
[09:43] <Kilos> sigh
[09:43] <inetpro> ai!
[09:43] <Kilos> hoping for more today
[09:43] <inetpro> looked like such a massive storm
[09:43] <Kilos> wasnt here by us
[09:44] <Kilos> over there by church street side of the mountain we could seethem getting rain
[09:44] <inetpro> we had a bit of a nasty wind
[09:44] <Kilos> yeah
[09:44] <Kilos> water to be tested hey!!!
[09:45] <inetpro> hmm...
[09:49] <magespawn> howdy all
[09:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:50] <Kilos> after clean install that 20g drive is only 25% used
[09:50] <magespawn> there we go then
[09:52] <Kilos> i wonder what caused it to say drive full
[09:54] <magespawn> corrupt file tables or something like that
[09:54] <Kilos> weird
[09:55] <magespawn> superfly staticrat is the projector not being treated as an extended desktop or a seperate work space?
[09:55] <magespawn> indeed Kilos
[09:55] <superfly> magespawn: I presume as an extended desktop, from what staticrat was saying
[09:56] <magespawn> then he could drag the open program there to have it display presumable?
[10:00] <superfly> magespawn: yes, but that's not what he's asking
[10:03]  * magespawn goes to re-read logs
[10:03] <magespawn> ohh okay i see
[10:04]  * magespawn puts on the dunce hat and goes to sit in the corner
[10:15] <inetpro> dunce hat?
[10:15] <magespawn> big pointy hat with a big letter d on it
[10:16] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunce_cap
[10:19] <inetpro> lol
[10:55] <nuvolari> Kilos: pong
[10:55] <nuvolari> hi oom :P
[10:55] <nuvolari> skies, ek is so bietjie skaars
[11:37] <Kilos> nuvolari, pong
[11:37] <Kilos> dag seun hoe gaan dit
[11:37] <Kilos> hoekom so skaars?
[12:10] <Squirm> nuvolari: ?
[12:10] <Squirm> how goes bud?
[12:25] <nuvolari> aan die werk oom Kilos
[12:25] <nuvolari> I'm good Squirm, how are you?
[12:25] <Kilos> ai seun
[12:26] <Kilos> net solank als goed is en jy maak reg for meet op die 18de ne
[12:46] <magespawn> bbl
[12:46] <Kilos> k
[13:19] <Squirm> doing well hey nuvolari.
[14:43] <nuvolari> dankie vir die vroë waarskuwing oom Kilos :P
[14:43] <nuvolari> ek waardeer
[14:44] <Kilos> anytime nuvolari
[14:52] <Squirm> yeah I'm good hey nuvolari. you been busy?
[14:56] <Kilos> hmm... the activists didnt add anything to the agenda
[14:59] <nlsthzn> hacktivists?
[15:19] <Kilos> those guys in the mail that want to protest against win preinstalled on new pcs nlsthzn
[15:35] <nlsthzn> ah I think all the mailing list mails are going to spam again... is nice havening less mails to go through each day
[15:45] <Kilos> hi charl_ not_found
[15:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:52] <Kilos> how come launchpad shows i havent signed the code of conduct and when i go through the motions it shows
[15:53] <Kilos> It appears you have already done this. The key ********* is registered on your account. You can skip to the next step if you are not intending on signing with a different key.
[15:53] <Kilos> i changed the key to them ***
[15:54] <Kilos> grrr
[15:54] <Kilos> maybe i didnt know how to sign the thing now im  stuck
[15:58] <Vince-0> I've never tried
[15:59] <Kilos> hehe
[15:59] <Kilos> massive job
[15:59] <Vince-0> are you registering for the loco?
[16:00] <Kilos> download this and copy paste something
[16:00] <Kilos> i was sure i had a year or so ago
[16:00] <Kilos> then looked at me there and it shows i havent signed
[16:01] <Kilos> then i click sign and there is my registered key and the message above
[16:01] <Kilos> grrr
[16:03] <Kilos> i dunno if i must copy paste the code of conduct that i downloaded into the block they say paste to or just they key
[16:06] <superfly> Kilos: there's a big difference between uploading a pgp key and signing the code of conduct
[16:08] <Kilos> it says enter that in a terminal
[16:08] <Kilos> gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-2.0.txt
[16:09] <Kilos> gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-2.0.txt
[16:09] <Kilos> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[16:09] <Kilos> gpg: UbuntuCodeofConduct-2.0.txt: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[16:09] <Kilos> how do i tell it where to find it?
[16:10] <Kilos> i even tried giving the path
[16:10] <Kilos> i have the key on desktop in a file called gpgkey
[16:27] <Kilos> and dont say man gpg inetpro
[16:27] <Kilos> better i forget about it
[16:27] <Kilos> think i did it on maverick
[16:28] <Kilos> and this unity dont see what i did back then
[16:48] <superfly> Kilos: you need to import your gpg key first
[16:48] <superfly> so that gpg knows about it
[16:48] <superfly> and hopefully you have your private key, not just your public key
[16:48] <Kilos> oh my
[16:49] <Kilos> now theres 2
[16:49] <Kilos> eeeek
[16:50] <superfly> yes, you create a private key, and then you export a public key from your private key
[16:50] <superfly> then you upload the public key for other people to use to check that anything signed with your private key is really from you
[16:51] <Kilos> is there a link somewhere on how to do all this in english step by step for noobs
[16:52] <Kilos> isnt it save to not bother with a key
[16:52] <Kilos> ive google quite a few but they arent for doff peeps even though one says he is a noob
[16:53] <Kilos> but tried what they told him to do and didnt do zilch here either
[16:54] <Kilos> not a good day to do all the thinking
[16:55] <Kilos> nut sploding
[16:55] <Cantide> o.o
[16:55] <Cantide> goeie naand oom Kilos '<
[16:55] <Kilos> naand Cantide
[16:55] <Cantide> '-'//
[16:55] <Kilos> hehe you also starting
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Cantide> enjoy~
[17:16] <Kilos> that was lekker. must be a good cook stays here
[18:10] <smile> hi :)
[18:11] <magedroid> Evening all
[18:11] <smile> good evening magedroid :)
[18:11] <magedroid> Hey smile
[18:13] <smile> magedroid: how do you feel? :)
[18:16] <Kilos> hmm...kinda storming here
[18:17] <magedroid> Little tired, but otherwise good. And you smile ?
[18:17] <smile> Kilos: the lightning has embarked here in the area :p
[18:17] <Kilos> ohi smile magedroid
[18:18] <smile> magedroid: I'm fine too :) I was too late for school
[18:18] <smile> slept well, haha
[18:18] <smile> :)
[18:18] <Kilos> how do i get ubuntu to see a pci graphics card
[18:18] <magedroid> Hey Kilos
[18:18] <magedroid> What chip has it got Kilos?
[18:19] <Kilos> boots to grub menu then screen switches off
[18:19] <Kilos> the graphics card?
[18:19] <magedroid> Yes
[18:19] <Kilos> its a nvidia 5500
[18:19] <magedroid> Nividia drivers?
[18:19] <Kilos> fx5500
[18:20] <magedroid> But it might not be a graphics problem
[18:20] <Kilos> lol ya but how do you get to install them when screen is off
[18:20] <Kilos> hehe
[18:20] <Kilos> xp boots fine to it but no ubuntu does
[18:20] <Kilos> from cd i mean
[18:21] <Kilos> just as you see the logo at the screen bottom when cd boots screen switches off
[18:21] <magedroid> Sounds like you would have to donit from a command line
[18:21] <Kilos> lol
[18:21] <magedroid> Maybe the x is not loading but we need someone with more knowledge
[18:21] <Kilos> the screen is off so cant even get a cli
[18:22] <smile> Kilos: that sucks :(
[18:22] <smile> Kilos: maybe you can ssh? :p
[18:22] <Kilos> hate these gigabyte mboards without vga socket
[18:23] <inetpro> good evening
[18:23] <Kilos> cant even set it up to ssh from here
[18:23] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[18:25] <magedroid> Back again
[18:28] <Kilos> where you went magedroid
[18:28] <Kilos> wb anyway
[18:29] <magedroid> Network
[18:29] <Kilos> ai!
[18:33] <Kilos> Banlam, bakuman lewe julle nog?
[18:43] <zeref> imgur.com/gallery/3DEbodj  << cold drink now all over my screen
[18:56] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:00] <magedroid> Later all see you in the morning
[19:17] <kbmonkey> ah hello
[19:18] <kbmonkey> hope all is having a nice/ok evening
[19:19] <kbmonkey> the bluetooth keeps freezing the machine, on ubuntu 11.04 and kubuntu 12.04.
[19:19] <kbmonkey> never had much luck with bluetooth :p
[19:24] <superfly> hiya kbmonkey
[19:27] <smile> bye :)