[07:03] (MasterShrek/#ubuntu) depends [GN] ViRii[K]  do u want a gui based or a terminal based client?
[07:03] (TBZ/#ubuntu) vocx: what I used to use years ago =(
[07:03] ([GN] ViRii[K] /#ubuntu) Either works :D
[07:03] (MasterShrek/#ubuntu) !patience | pizzle
[07:03] (ubotu/#ubuntu) pizzle: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:03] (Optimus55/#ubuntu) pizzle: startx?
[07:03] (bulmer/#ubuntu) pizzle: you tried the low rez when during boot?
[07:03] (pizzle/#ubuntu) the thing is.. the console doesn't let me type anything in. it just shows "_" that blinks
[07:03] (TBZ/#ubuntu) [GN] ViRii[K] : you should try bitchx honestly, lots of people like it
[07:04] <Neural_Overload> MasterShrek: What are the benefits of using one client over the other?
[07:04] <pizzle> i'ved tried all resolutions
[07:04] <MasterShrek> Neural_Overload, different features that each client has built in
[07:04] <hackerboy> vox: what or you talking bout i just installed ubuntu on my computer my main i have 3 and currently using windows xp im trying to learn how to use this i already know how to use windows xp.
[07:04] <mario> could somebody help me install the fglrx driver, i just finished a tutorial by slavik but it did not work properly
[07:04] <Shaye> MasterShrek I will ask you something else, my box is connected to a router, now everytime I boot the box it won't automatically connect to the net, I must type 'dhclient' in order for it to get an IP address from the router, is there any way to auto execute that command every-time I boot or something like that?
[07:05] <vocx> pizzle, then it really isn't a console. You most probably need the alternate CD because your graphics driver is not set up correctly.
[07:05] <cedricshock> Grub problem: Hi. I've got a computer with three hard drives that was sent in for repair. The first drive had ubuntu and grub, and was (and is) on the first connection of the first SATA controller, and is first in the boot order. Its device used to be /dev/sda1. In order to get it to boot I had to tell grub that the device is now /dev/sdb1, though it's still hd0,0. mtab says /dav/sda1 is mounted on /, when in fact sdb1 is. update-grub d
[07:05] <cedricshock> oesn't change menu.lst entries.
[07:05] <MasterShrek> Shaye, it should do it automatically
[07:05] <bulmer> pizzle: verify that your burned cd is okay
[07:05] <TBZ> vocx: is it generally a bad practice to download several packages at a time? like 50+? a mass install so to say?
[07:05] <pizzle> bulmer, it booted on another computer that i've tried
[07:05] <Shaye> MasterShrek, should, but it does not
[07:05] <slavik> mario: what's the error?
[07:05] <MasterShrek> TBZ, no
[07:06] <vocx> TBZ, from apt? I think not. They are cached in the local machine and then installed in order.
[07:06] <TBZ> nice =D
[07:06] <pizzle> bulmer, how do you get it to display what it's doing during the boot instead of the ubuntu graphic?
[07:06] <MasterShrek> shaye have a look in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:06] <theman> Does anyone expierence long boot time when the splash screen starts up ? Or anyone know how to fix it?
[07:06] <theman> It all started after i messed with gnome art with the splash screen
[07:06] <bulmer> pizzle: select the lowest res
[07:07] <bruenig> theman, disable splash and quiet in /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if it is any different
[07:07] <syte> Has anyone been unable to get the nvidia drivers working for their 8600 gt?
[07:07] <theman> what do u mean quiet
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[07:07] <mario> slavik: hey, i followed all your steps up until "sudo modprobe fglrx"
[07:07] <Mr_Njegos>     Francuskoga da ne bi brijega,
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[07:07] <vocx> !ops
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[07:07] <Mr_Njegos>     San pakleni okruni Osmana,
[07:07] <Shaye> auto lo
[07:07] <Shaye> iface lo inet loopback
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[07:07] <MasterShrek> syte pastebin your xorg.conf
[07:08] <mario> and I got this error "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[07:08] <Shaye> Master all I got there is:
[07:08] <Shaye> auto lo
[07:08] <Shaye> iface lo inet loopback
[07:08] <mario> slavik: and I got this error "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[07:08] <hackerboy> man who knows how to turn windows xp into a linux program
[07:08] <syte> well...i already reconfigured my xorg.conf
[07:08] <slavik> mario: did you try a reboot?
[07:08] <syte> because i was unable to boot with it
[07:09] <vocx> hackerboy, I know you know Windows XP, but that is not enough. You need to read more web pages explaining what linux is.
[07:09] <mario> slavik: when I tried "glxinfo | grep direct" everything went black and I was back at the login screen, is that a full boot?
[07:09] <vocx> please, everybody behave
[07:09] <Grungebunny> hackerboy , google wubi
[07:09] <theman> bruenig if i disable the splash screen and it still does that.. you know of any other solutions?
[07:09] <Avielu1> I get a desktop effects could not be enabled message. I'm using an Nvidia restricted driver.
[07:10] <bruenig> theman, check the daemons one by one to see what the issue is
[07:10] <slavik> mario: did you reboot completely?
[07:10] <faileas> hackboy: "linux programme" ? you can run windows *in* linux, if you want, qemu or vmware.
[07:10] <theman> this is gonna get complicated, huh?
[07:10] <slavik> as in system -> quit then click on restart
[07:10] <mario> slavik: not sure, I'll restart again and see if anything changes
[07:10] <MasterShrek> Shaye, did you get my pms?
[07:10] <hackerboy> vocx: okay, but im asking can i turn another one of my windows xp into linux without installing it threw a disk have 4 computers if u do know how could you please let me know. thnx
[07:10] <faileas> >_>
[07:11] <Grungebunny> faileas im interested in running XP within Linux so I can finally trash it off my system.. is there some docu on how to do it?
[07:11] <Grungebunny> faileas with vmware
[07:11] <Shaye> MasterShrek yeah thanks, i could not reply to you as i am not registerd (can't pm), i am testing it out now just a sec
[07:11] <hackerboy> Grungebunny: whats google wubi: im new to this so dont know much let
[07:11] <MasterShrek> ok shaye
[07:11] <theman> bruenig, ill try it out.. if anything you'll see me back in here... thanks if it helped
[07:11] <syte> MasterShrek: do u still want me to post my xorg.conf even though i've already reconfigured it?
[07:11] <MasterShrek> i can take a look at it for you syte see if i can notice something wrong
[07:11] <Grungebunny> hackerboy, go to google and type in wubi
[07:11] <MasterShrek> what error is it giving you syte ?
[07:11] <Neural_Overload> hackerboy: www.google.com
[07:11] <xoRock> theman, try splash gnome-splashscreen-manager
[07:12] <Neural_Overload> and then type in wubi
[07:12] <faileas> Grungebunny: download vmware converter for windows. run.   install vmware player or server. run the VM produced by converter in vmware. if it works, delete XP partition. ;)
[07:12] <MasterShrek> Grungebunny, qemu works good for vms too
[07:12] <faileas> (run vmware converter, not outside ;) )
[07:12] <syte> mastershrek: once i installed the nvidia driver, my screen went blank when i attempted to boot into ubuntu
[07:12] <Avielu1> I get a desktop effects could not be enabled message. I'm using an Nvidia restricted driver. help please?
[07:12] <MasterShrek> syte, does it give you any errors though?
[07:12] <hackerboy> Neural_Overload: okay im at google.com what now?
[07:13] <MasterShrek> if not post /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[07:13] <faileas> vmdks also run in qemu, and IMO its the least painful, and safest way to go
[07:13] <theman> xoRock, is that system-preferences etc.,
[07:13] <Neural_Overload> In the text box, type wubi
[07:13] <nominal> avielul desktop effects don't work on all video cards if i remember correctly
[07:13] <syte> mastershrek: it didnt, do i'll post my logs
[07:13] <nominal> need more that 64mb
[07:13] <nominal> that*than
[07:13] <monocl1> does anybody know a good UPnP renderer for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <theman> xoRock, i just want ubuntu to load up like it used to.. ever since i changed the splash screen in gnome art it hangs for a while
[07:14] <bruenig> theman, just do what I suggested, click and pray is pointless
[07:14] <Avielu1> nominal: Yeah, but as far as I know it works on mine. I had it working before T_T
[07:14] <theman> bruenig, yea im gonna do it now
[07:14] <theman> ill be back
[07:14] <xoRock> theman, do u have gnome-splash-manager installed?
[07:14] <nominal> so what did you do to make it not work
[07:15] <Avielu1> no idea
[07:15] <theman> xoRock, probably not
[07:15] <nominal> had to have changed something
[07:15] <Avielu1> it worked before... and now when I try to enable it, nothing
[07:15] <theman> is it system-preferences-splashscreen
[07:15] <Avielu1> nothing comes to mind
[07:15] <theman> thats the gnome splash manager isnt it
[07:15] <Shaye> MasterShrek it still won't connect, i need to 'dhclient'.
[07:16] <theman> I'm restarting .. gonna see if anythings different without a splash screen
[07:16] <theman> be back
[07:16] <xoRock> theman, with gnome-splashscreen-manager u can change/disable splash screen
[07:16] <theman> oh
[07:16] <nominal> avielul: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=425819
[07:16] <Avielu1> K, thanks
[07:16] <bruenig> just say no to click and pray
[07:16] <theman> xoRock.. i just deleted the two splash screens i downloaded
[07:16] <nominal> dunno if it will help tho
[07:17] <Avielu1> meh
[07:17] <theman> and unchecked load splash screen
[07:17] <hackerboy> Grungebunny: thank you for your help i did it. but before i install in i need to know will it erase anything that i originally have
[07:17] <[GN] ViRii[K] > So new question, I have pisg.. and sudo apt-get instal pisg doesnt work so.. what else do I need to know to install this one?
[07:17] <syte> sorry, but the place u post long amounts of texts so u can copy the link and post it in mirc channels is called what?
[07:17] <xoRock> theman, o so u have it, go try restart ^^ and gud luck
[07:17] <Neural_Overload> Does anyone know how to use the cube thing in the desktop effects that puts the different workspaces on a cube?
[07:17] <WingNut_> Hail
[07:17] <theman> thanks
[07:17] <infernuscrusher> hello...
[07:17] <lockd> what does nx-x11 do?
[07:17] <Neural_Overload> I got the desktop effects enabled but I cant get the cube feature to work
[07:18] <MasterShrek> !pastebin | syte
[07:18] <ubotu> syte: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:18] <WingNut_> I'm checking out the Live CD but I'm not getting any sound.  My sound card is supported by the Linux kernel.  Is there no sound because its a Live CD or is likely another issue?
[07:18] <xoRock> Neural_Overload, u need to install beryl or compiz to work the cube effect
[07:18] <shira> if I installed sun-java6-doc using apt, where does it install it to?
[07:19] <bullgard4> Why is there no man kinit?
[07:19] <Neural_Overload> xoRock: Ive tried beryl but it just makes all my windows black
[07:19] <infernuscrusher> when i was trying to mount xternal harddisk to my comp it says "unable to mount, mount point can not contain the character newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)"
[07:19] <Axioo> Uboto, OK I've read the upgrade notes, so if I chose to do a clean install (disregard the data in my ubuntu 6.06), will it be just a new install or should it be new windows install also? (I forgot to say that I'm going to have a dual boot system)
[07:19] <MasterShrek> sorry shaye, im lost on that one, you could create a script and put it in /etc/init.d (make sure you make it executable)
[07:19] <nominal> shira check /usr/java?
[07:20] <MasterShrek> lol Axioo
[07:20] <xoRock> Neural_Overload, have u restart your box after installed it?
[07:20] <MasterShrek> ubotu is a bot
[07:20] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[07:20] <MasterShrek> =P
[07:20] <Neural_Overload> Yeah I believe so
[07:20] <tanath> i'm getting write errors when burning cds. can anyone help?
[07:20] <syte> MasterShrek: http://pastebin.com/d22e26c23
[07:20] <xoRock> Neural_Overload, coz it happend 2 me, but after restart everything just fine
[07:20] <shira> nominal, doesn't even exist
[07:21] <Neural_Overload> Ill try that
[07:21] <Neural_Overload> I may not have
[07:21] <riyonuk> I cant get compiz to work, nothing happens :/
[07:21] <infernuscrusher> > when i was trying to mount xternal harddisk to my comp it says "unable to mount, mount point can not contain the character newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)"
[07:21] <infernuscrusher> can anybody help?
[07:21] <theman> and it worked..........
[07:21] <WingNut_> I'm checking out the Live CD but I'm not getting any sound.  My sound card is supported by the Linux kernel.  Is there no sound because its a Live CD or is likely another issue?  (Sorry to ask twice, just let me know that I'm "in queue" and I'll happily wait my turn)
[07:21] <MasterShrek> syte, let me see your xorg.conf
[07:21] <xoRock> Neural_Overload, gud luck ^^
[07:21] <MasterShrek> you got major issues lol
[07:21] <syte> :((
[07:21] <syte> sorry
[07:21] <theman> xoRock, is there anyway to have a splash screen work normally
[07:21] <tanath> riyonuk, nothing happens when you do what? lol
[07:21] <Axioo> oh ok, since uboto is a bot, so mastershrek, could you help?
[07:21] <theman> i should of never messed with gnome-art
[07:21] <MasterShrek> lol well figure it out syte
[07:22] <nominal> shira did you want java or just the documentation?
[07:22] <riyonuk> when I installed compiz
[07:22] <Neural_Overload> xoRock: Thanks, I'll need it :P
[07:22] <shira> nominal, i installed the sdk and the docs and I want to access the docs
[07:22] <bullgard4> tanath: Please state precisely what write errors you get. Otherwise it is difficult to help you.
[07:22] <Axioo> also, what is alternate cd/dvd? Is it not the same with the installation cd?
[07:22] <riyonuk> I follow guides, tried myself, nothing
[07:22] <[GN] ViRii[K] > So in order to use apt-get what do I need from the software itself
[07:22] <MasterShrek> Axioo, dont worry about your windows install, the new ubuntu install will recognize it and put a boot entry for it
[07:22] <tanath> riyonuk, try running it? (compiz --replace)
[07:22] <xoRock> theman, so how is your splash screen now?
[07:22] <TBZ> !envy
[07:22] <xoRock> theman, still hang?
[07:22] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:22] <MasterShrek> Axioo, just use the regular desktop cd
[07:22] <tanath> bullgard4, http://pastebin.com/d5fa58672
[07:23] <nominal> shira, not sure then.. just have to wait thru a file search i guess
[07:23] <theman> xoRock, well i took off the splash screen and its dramatically better
[07:23] <theman> its like normal again
[07:23] <syte> http://pastebin.com/d42799103
[07:23] <theman> xoRock, is it possible to get it back to normal with a nice looking splash screen
[07:23] <syte> MasterShrek: http://pastebin.com/d42799103
[07:24] <bullgard4> tanath: I am not familiar with k3b. Sorry.
[07:24] <hackerboy> does anyone know how to make windows xp virtual like linux?
[07:24] <theman> xoRock, its just when the other splash screens were installed it never showed those three icons like nautilus - etc., - etc.,
[07:24] <theman> then it would hang
[07:24] <faileas> hackerboy: vmware converter
[07:24] <MasterShrek> syte, start by changing your driver from nv to nvidia under the Section "Device"
[07:24] <xoRock> theman, well u can try turn on splash screen of your choice again, and see
[07:24] <theman> yea
[07:24] <theman> thanks
[07:25] <infernuscrusher> does anybody know what problem i hv here? > when i was trying to mount xternal harddisk to my comp it says "unable to mount, mount point can not contain the character newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)"
[07:25] <infernuscrusher> thx
[07:25] <AshyIsMe_> is 7.04 feisty or edgy?  i can never remember
[07:25] <TBZ> for 64bit, I am going to need the x64 Nvidia driver, correct?
[07:25] <theman> xoRock, you got any suggestions for any good irc clients
[07:25] <MasterShrek> AshyIsMe_, feisty
[07:25] <MasterShrek> yes TBZ
[07:25] <tanath> bullgard4, i got a write error with nautilus i think it was, too. i thought it might be dust, but i blew it out and it did it again. no suggestions?
[07:25] <AshyIsMe_> MasterShrek: thanks
[07:25] <xoRock> theman, i use xchat
[07:25] <Axioo> ok ... 3 problems solved, I still have a few more ... I'm connected using a cellphone as my modem, so I need driver (this is not a problem in windows), I've searched for ubuntu / linux driver for my cellphone, but i couldn;t find it, any way around this?
[07:25] <theman> xoRock are there a lot of plugins for xchat
[07:25] <J-_> Is there anyway to get a ZVM (Creative Zen Vision:M to work with ubuntu? (uploading pictures/video)
[07:25] <TBZ> I really hope this works, so I can pop in some more ram =D
[07:25] <theman> thats what im using now
[07:26] <theman> i guess i just gotta mess around with it some more
[07:26] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Anyone have a minute to help me out?
[07:26] <TBZ> 8gigs here I come ! *devil smiley*
[07:26] <xoRock> theman, im not really sure about that, but xchat is quite popular irc client tough
[07:26] <jonathan_> hi'
[07:26] <jonathan_> hello everybody
[07:26] <xoRock> theman, and yes i see plug in menu
[07:26] <jonathan_> hello indonesia
[07:26] <TBZ> hey
[07:26] <jonathan_> anggi?
[07:27] <infernuscrusher> yup2
[07:27] <jonathan_> he3
[07:27] <jonathan_> disini jg loe
[07:27] <theman> its just its pretty basic xoRock
[07:27] <MasterShrek> syte have you tried booting it with nvidia in there yet?
[07:27] <goofy> my dvd burnner randomly stopped reading blank dvds
[07:27] <theman> a lot different from mIRC
[07:27] <jonathan_> compiz fusion really cool huh?
[07:27] <syte> MasterShrek: no i havent
[07:27] <Avielu1> compiz isn't really doing anything, I've got desktop effects working
[07:27] <Avielu1> what do I do?
[07:27] <syte> MasterShrek: hopefully that was the problem :D
[07:27] <jonathan_> hm...
[07:27] <jonathan_> beryl?
[07:27] <MasterShrek> hopefully...
[07:27] <bullgard4> tanath: If you obtained a write error with Nautilus, what was its exact wording?
[07:28] <Shaye> MasterShrek a script but what to write there, hehe :)
[07:28] <xoRock> theman, ^^
[07:28] <MasterShrek> beryl is deprecated jonathan_
[07:28] <bruenig> beryl is not deprecated
[07:28] <syte> MasterShrek: sorry, i wanted to kind of get beryl working before i progressed in reading more about linux and ubuntu
[07:28] <jonathan_> somebody know how to mount the external devices??
[07:28] <jonathan_> beryl really buggy
[07:28] <MasterShrek> Shaye, whatever command you need to type to get an ip... dhclient or whatever
[07:28] <TBZ> syte: hehe it should be the other way around honestly =P
[07:28] <hackerboy> faileas: thanx also you know how to make linux into a touch screen program
[07:28] <Avielu1> compiz isn't really doing anything, I've got desktop effects working
[07:28] <MasterShrek> syte, you need a gui to get desktop effects, and you wont be using beryl, like i said its deprecated
[07:28] <bullgard4> jonathan_: Use the mount command.
[07:28] <bruenig> unless compiz fusion has released, beryl cannot by definition be deprecated
[07:29] <jayde_drag0n> sooo i came over from windows.... i've been here a couple months now... but i'm getting terribly bored with the lack of how pretty i can make anything... i LOVED windowblinds in windows.... xfce borked my system.. compiz did nothing... i clicked every buttin twice... nothing... and i can't find anything to launch with beryl... isn't there ANYTHING that i can download and use that is similar to windowblinds... or at least a GUI to wor
[07:29] <jonathan_> code please
[07:29] <hackerboy> does anyone know how to make linux into a touch screen program
[07:29] <tanath> bullgard4, i can't remember :( and since i've made several coasters, i know there's a problem and would prefer not to try again. all i remember is it was a write error
[07:29] <Avielu1> nvm
[07:29] <bruenig> MasterShrek, beryl is not deprecated
[07:29] <faileas> hackerboy: get a touch screen thats supported by linux. i'm afraid your questions arn't entirely coherent
[07:29] <TBZ> MasterShrek: Ok, now from what I'm reading, (at least for the x86 install) I need to uninstall my nv drivers now, correct?
[07:29] <syte> MasterShrek, compiz as well?
[07:29] <jonathan_> MasterShrek, can u give me the code?
[07:29] <jonathan_> pastebin?
[07:30] <Axioo> MasterShrek, Thanx ... ok ... 3 problems solved, I still have a few more ... I'm connected using a cellphone as my modem, so I need driver (this is not a problem in windows), I've searched for ubuntu / linux driver for my cellphone, but i couldn;t find it, any way around this?
[07:30] <MasterShrek> i dont think so TBZ just make sure u use the nvidia driver in your xorg.conf instead of nv
[07:30] <TBZ> Axioo: cellphone as a modem, awesome =D
[07:30] <MasterShrek> no not compiz, its compiz-fusion now i guess
[07:30] <bruenig> compiz fusion hasn't even released yet
[07:30] <MasterShrek> what code jonathan_
[07:30] <jonathan_> mount devices code please
[07:30] <bullgard4> tanath: Your description is too vague (at least for me) than that I could advise you a remedy.
[07:31] <MasterShrek> no idea Axioo
[07:31] <[GN] ViRii[K] > So, what do I need to do in order to install pisg on ubuntu, I tried the previous one that worked for irssi but it didnt work
[07:31] <adamorjames> hey compwiz18
[07:31] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Anyone have a minute to help me out?
[07:31] <MasterShrek> !mount | jonathan_
[07:31] <ubotu> jonathan_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:31] <compwiz18> hey adamorjames
[07:31] <jonathan_> to mount my external devices
[07:31] <tanath> bullgard4, thanks anyway :-/
[07:31] <MasterShrek> [GN] ViRii[K] , what is pisg?
[07:31] <Axioo> TBZ, yes it is, but I only know to run it from windows, I don't know hot to have it run on ubuntu yet
[07:31] <tanath> bruenig, then what am i using??
[07:31] <[GN] ViRii[K] > An IRC logging tool
[07:31] <[GN] ViRii[K] > http://pisg.sourceforge.net/
[07:31] <jonathan_> thx
[07:31] <bruenig> tanath, some pre release version
[07:31] <MasterShrek> jayde_drag0n, http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/invisiblekid852/linux%20screenshots/?action=view&current=ubuntu9-10-07.png
[07:31] <bruenig> tanath, are you using gutsy?
[07:31] <SMockie> Yo, I got ubuntu private server and a home biz DSL connection with 3 mbps down and 1 mbps up. What is maybe something I could run on the server to make enough $$ legal that would at least help pay for my internet cost.
[07:32] <jonathan_> I think compiz and desktop effects are same
[07:32] <Axioo> MaterShrek, Is there any generic / general driver for cellphone modem?
[07:32] <tanath> bruenig, well, a release is a release, even if not final... i'm on feisty
[07:32] <MasterShrek> jayde_drag0n, it isnt hard to make your desktop look pretty
[07:32] <bruenig> tanath, ok well feisty is deprecated to the same extent that beryl is deprecated
[07:32] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Can I use debian installs of programs for ubuntu
[07:33] <jonathan_> !mount devices | infernuscrusher
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount devices - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <MasterShrek> [GN] ViRii[K] , you need to enable the universe repository
[07:33] <zoexii> exit
[07:33] <zoexii> exit
[07:33] <bruenig> tanath, in fact every ubuntu release is almost immediately deprecated under the definition that is being used to say beryl is deprecated
[07:33] <tanath> bruenig, gutsy (final) isn't out yet
[07:33] <MasterShrek> !repositories | [GN] ViRii[K] ,
[07:33] <ubotu> [GN] ViRii[K] ,: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:33] <[GN] ViRii[K] > How do I do that MasterShrek?
[07:33] <jonathan_> !mount | infernuscrusher
[07:33] <ubotu> infernuscrusher: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:33] <MasterShrek> that link
[07:33] <bruenig> tanath, neither is compiz fusion, therefore beryl is not deprecated
[07:33] <locke_> also, i thought 7.04 had a newer kernel than <IP_ADDRESS>, but thats what it is still running
[07:33] <tanath> bruenig, didn't say it was, but feisty isn't "deprecated"...
[07:34] <jonathan_> fiuh, compiz fusion installed now!
[07:34] <MasterShrek> locke_, no its running 2.6.21
[07:34] <jonathan_> reallt cool
[07:34] <bullgard4> Why is there no man kinit?
[07:34] <jernster> <IP_ADDRESS> should be the latest i think.
[07:34] <bruenig> tanath, well some people are, I thought you were defending that position since that is what I was talking about
[07:34] <jernster> err 2.6.17-12
[07:34] <bruenig> tanath, I think it is just MasterShrek and cafuego who have made that claim
[07:34] <MasterShrek> i was claiming it cuz he claimed it earlier =P
[07:34] <tanath> bruenig, nah, i just butted in with little points to maybe clear things up
[07:35] <jayde_drag0n> MasterShrek: but where do i do that?? what do i install?
[07:35] <jabba_da_hut> Is there any way to change the subtitle sync in VLC?
[07:35] <bruenig> tanath, right, well you certainly illustrated my point
[07:35] <locke_> MasterShrek why would apt-get dist-upgrade not have installed the new kernel, or not enabled it?
[07:35] <infernuscrusher> > when i was trying to mount xternal harddisk to my comp it says "unable to mount, mount point can not contain the character newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)"
[07:35] <quaal> why after i sudo chmod 777 a dir does it still not let me edit it
[07:35] <MasterShrek> i couldnt tell ya locke_ but i know for a fact that a fresh install of feisty is 2.6.20, (not .21 like i said b4)
[07:36] <syte> MasterShrek: was there anything else wrong with my xorg.conf file?
[07:36] <bruenig> MasterShrek, feisty is deprecated
[07:36] <HardandFast> indeed
[07:36] <jayde_drag0n> MasterShrek: can i do that thru a gui?? i relly need to see what the heck i'm doing and choosing? is there a url to download and pick and choose from... the only links i found were NOT that pretty
[07:36] <MasterShrek> not that i can tell syte? still not booting?
[07:36] <tanath> bruenig, ? how is feisty deprecated? it is the current release
[07:36] <adamorjames> lol
[07:36] <MasterShrek> !themes
[07:36] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:36] <nominal> quall try chown
[07:36] <jonathan_> infernuscrusher, try to using apt-get GParted
[07:36] <MasterShrek> !themes | jayde_drag0n
[07:36] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: please see above
[07:36] <bruenig> tanath, ask MasterShrek, he is the one who says feisty is deprecated
[07:36] <nominal> brb
[07:37] <syte> MasterShrek: i have to reinstall the drivers first. Hopefully it boots up this time :D
[07:37] <MasterShrek> i never said that bruenig
[07:37] <adamorjames> lol
[07:37] <syte> MasterShrek: oh yea, thx for helping
[07:37] <MasterShrek> good luck syte
[07:37] <syte> thx
[07:37] <bruenig> MasterShrek, if you say beryl is deprecated, you also logically say feisty is, you cannot say one is deprecated without the other
[07:37] <tanath> bruenig, you said it
[07:37] <bruenig> you cannot maintain one is and the other isn't, they are in the exact same situation
[07:37] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Where do I have to put a package in order to install it MasterShrek?
[07:37] <TBZ> !aptitude
[07:37] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:38] <MasterShrek> [GN] ViRii[K] , you dont put a package anywhere, you apt-get install it
[07:38] <rsh006> anybody in here go to SHSU
[07:38] <jonathan_> !apt-get
[07:38] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:38] <MasterShrek> !apt-get | [GN] ViRii[K]
[07:38] <ubotu> [GN] ViRii[K] : please see above
[07:38] <MasterShrek> read that [GN] ViRii[K]  ^
[07:38] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Even if its not downloaded yet?
[07:38] <stuart-> when i have sound playing like mp3, i can't play other sounds at the same time?
[07:38] <MasterShrek> it will download it
[07:38] <sparr> how can i make apt not keep debs in /var/cache/apt/archive ?
[07:38] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Do I have to tell apt-get where to download it from?
[07:38] <locke_> ok im trying to install an older version of the nvidia drivers now and getting the same error, unable to create '/usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/tmp/selfgz19080/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.100.14.1' for copying (no such file or directory)
[07:38] <bruenig> sparr, well it has to download them there
[07:38] <locke_> im installing 1.0-9755 though
[07:39] <sparr> bruenig: yeah, id like postconfig (or some other late step) to get rid of them
[07:39] <jonathan_> try to use synaptic than
[07:39] <bruenig> sparr, you can have it clean out occasionally, perhaps set a cron job to do it
[07:39] <rsh006> SHSU?
[07:39] <locke_> 100.14.11 was the version i tried to install before and installed with restricted-manager, but doesnt work
[07:39] <MasterShrek> [GN] ViRii[K] , did you take a look at that repository link that ubotu gave you? if u did you would answer your own question
[07:39] <MasterShrek> !repositories
[07:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:40] <jonathan_> !easysource
[07:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:40] <locke_> then it gives unable to restore file 'samething'
[07:40] <tanath> jabba_da_hut, i thought there was, but i don't see it. i know you can do it with mplayer though
[07:40] <TBZ> !sh
[07:40] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:40] <jonathan_> !ls
[07:41] <jabba_da_hut> tanath : what are the shortcut keys for those in mplayer?
[07:41] <locke_> how can i remove all nvidia drivers currently installed and start from scratch
[07:41] <TBZ> what is key command for "run" again?
[07:41] <TBZ> !run
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <bruenig> locke_, depends on how you installed them
[07:41] <locke_> as a side note, i never intended to isntall anything into a dosemu directory
[07:41] <MasterShrek> TBZ, what are you trying to run?
[07:41] <weltschmerz> i'm having trouble mounting an nfs share with my laptop.
[07:41] <TBZ> just anything
[07:41] <locke_> bruenig the one its complaining about i installed with restricted-manager
[07:41] <weltschmerz> but i can mount it fine from another machine on the local net.
[07:41] <MasterShrek> TBZ, just type the command
[07:42] <locke_> previously i had 1.0-9755 installed and working great in 6.10
[07:42] <TBZ> there was a cntrl or alt something to bring up the run command window
[07:42] <bruenig> locke_, gui....no idea then
[07:42] <MasterShrek> or if you are in the directory where the program is put a   ./   in front of it
[07:42] <locke_> then i upgraded to 7.04, which was a several day process that got interrupted in the middle of it
[07:42] <MasterShrek> alt+f2 TBZ
[07:42] <TBZ> MasterShrek: thanks again bud =D
[07:42] <locke_> at which point the drivers stopped working and i had to switch to 'nv'
[07:42] <tanath> jabba_da_hut, i can't remember, and i don't have anything with subtitles at the moment. try playing around with the keys and you should find it. i think it it's a couple letters near the bottom left...
[07:42] <tanath> jabba_da_hut, not sure though. just play around
[07:43] <bruenig> locke_, locate nvidia.ko is the nvidia module, however you would need to uninstall any package that you used initially so that the file is taken out of the database
[07:43] <jabba_da_hut> Thanks tanath!
[07:43] <tanath> jabba_da_hut, np. i found it on accident, so i'm sure you can too. doesn't hurt anything to play around
[07:43] <tanath> jabba_da_hut, shift works too
[07:44] <EJ> i am working on a boot up command line to enter into webmin that will run ndiswrapper, instead ofmy having to run the commands after bootup, commands include : sudo modprobe ndiswrapper : sudo iwconfig wlan0 key (netkey) : sudo dhclient wlan0 : any ideas ?
[07:44] <weltschmerz> my friend's dad is mad that i admitted her to the psyche ward during her recent psychotic episode.
[07:44] <andrej> What is the name of the program ubuntu runs on install to set-up networking?  I installed a box weeks ago, and didn't setup the network :}
[07:44] <weltschmerz> uh..sorry, but when someone thinks she's on the truman show and her life is being videotaped, i call the doctors.
[07:44] <locke_> all of the errors during installation were in /usr/lib/dosemu so i just apt-get removed dosemu
[07:44] <BettyWhite> [dingbot]  Going to #metabug.
[07:44] <locke_> im gonna see what happens
[07:44] <jayde_drag0n> MasterShrek: is there a walkthru for any of that stuff.. i don't knwo what to do with any of it or how to install them
[07:45] <tanath> i'm getting write errors when burning cds. can anyone help?
[07:45] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Whats a command line text editor for ubuntu?
[07:45] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , vim
[07:45] <[GN] ViRii[K] > k thanks
[07:45] <andrej> heh
[07:45] <marginoferror> Wait, wait
[07:45] <EJ> [ tanath] : pico or vi
[07:45] <marginoferror> If you've never used vi before
[07:45] <marginoferror> Use nano
[07:45] <bruenig> that one is specifically for ubuntu too
[07:45] <MasterShrek> jayde_drag0n, system > preferences > theme   pick a tab and click install, you can leave the themes and icons in their archives
[07:45] <marginoferror> nano is the all-around default for ubuntu newbies
[07:45] <tanath> vim = improved vi
[07:45] <bruenig> all of those have a lot ot do with ubuntu
[07:45] <EJ> [ tanath] : i find pico easier to use
[07:46] <tanath> i found vim the easiest... dunno how to use the others
[07:46] <locke_> i like pico better too
[07:46] <locke_> i really hate vi :P
[07:46] <marginoferror> (pico is exactly the same as nano, at least in ubuntu)
[07:46] <locke_> i have no idea how to use vi though
[07:46] <EJ> vi is difficult to remember all the command keys
[07:46] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , :wq to write & quit
[07:46] <MasterShrek> nano is a for of pico
[07:46] <andrej> EJ - depends on what you're trying to do with it.  I use vim a lot these days
[07:46] <MasterShrek> fork*
[07:46] <bruenig> nano is not very fun to program in
[07:46] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , i for insert mode
[07:46] <EJ> [ andrej] : very true
[07:46] <locke_> id recommend pico/nano if you're not very familiar with vi or unix
[07:47] <marginoferror> bruenig: You are correct
[07:47] <EJ> i am working on a boot up command line to enter into webmin that will run ndiswrapper, instead ofmy having to run the commands after bootup, commands include : sudo modprobe ndiswrapper : sudo iwconfig wlan0 key (netkey) : sudo dhclient wlan0 : any ideas ?
[07:47] <[GN] ViRii[K] > How do I save and quit?
[07:47] <HardandFast> I have the iPod nano too!
[07:47] <locke_> ok after removing dosemu, i am still getting the same errors involving /usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/whatever
[07:47] <locke_> grr
[07:47] <bruenig> [GN] ViRii[K] , :x
[07:47] <marginoferror> bruenig: But for text editing, vim isn't very fun for beginners
[07:47] <hoyt_> ;)
[07:47] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , told you... ESC if you're in insert mode, then :wq
[07:47] <marginoferror> Also, gedit has such nice tabs and context hilighting that I use it for programming anyway
[07:47] <bruenig> :x is quicker
[07:47] <andrej> back to my ubuntu server problem.  what's the name of the tool that initially sets up networking?
[07:48] <andrej> :}
[07:48] <bruenig> vim has multiple buffers
[07:48] <hoyt_> SHSU anyone?
[07:48] <locke_> k im loading in nv driver i cant do any research on this in commandline
[07:48] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , try pico. looks easier
[07:48] <andrej> lol @ MasterShrek
[07:49] <sauvin> if you want to try pico, try nano instead.
[07:49] <andrej> sick sick puppy
[07:49] <HardandFast> Yeah, Windows FTW
[07:49] <HardandFast> notepad.exe is the best
[07:49] <tanath> i prefer gedit, but it's good to have CLI editors
[07:49] <hackerboy> anyboyd know how to change the linux desktop background
[07:49] <MasterShrek> greatest windows program by far lol
[07:49] <bruenig> you can always use gvim if you want gui
[07:49] <tanath> hackerboy, right click on it..
[07:49] <MasterShrek> hackerboy, right click it
[07:49] <andrej> Nuh. Even wordpad is better.    Someone mentioned a usable distro :D
[07:51] <lastexile> hello! Has anyone had problems when trying to mount sd cards with 7.10?
[07:52] <jonathan_> .......
[07:52] <Wolfwalker> DISCLAIMER: The following question is strictly non-critical. I just want your opinion.
[07:52] <MasterShrek> slackware is pretty sexy, ill have to say
[07:52] <bruenig> jonathan_, there are some in here who maintain that feisty is deprecated even though gutsy is in prerelease
[07:52] <Wolfwalker> I have an old Dell, celeron processor, 256 megs ram
[07:52] <goofy> im trying to create a thinclient.... how much room does ubuntu use with a fresh install
[07:52] <HardandFast> that's not a question
[07:52] <hackerboy> tanath: i know to right click it and then click change desktop. no i mean to get them from maybe the internet or something. Because ubuntu on has a specific of 4 background colors that or wack.
[07:52] <andrej> I'm a slacker. BUt am setting up this machine for a friend who's not linux savy and lives miles away
[07:52] <[GN] ViRii[K] > So how can I save something in pico if the permission is denied?
[07:52] <Wolfwalker> Would it run Ubuntu 7.04 or shoudl I just leave Windoze 2000 on it?
[07:52] <andrej> Hence the ubuntu questions
[07:52] <tanath> deprecated: a program or feature that is considered obsolescent and in the process of being phased out, usually in favour of a specified replacement.
[07:52] <Wolfwalker> In your opinion
[07:52] <EJ> Slackware is a nice os, but i've worked with it for 5 years and accomplished in 1 day with ubuntu that took 5 years to accomplish with slackware
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Wolfwalker: It would run fine most likely.  If not, try Xubuntu.
[07:52] <andrej> And I can't remember what that friggin network config tool is called
[07:53] <threethirty> goofy: its less than a gig i know that much
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> andrej: network-admin?  NetworkManager?
[07:53] <andrej> EJ:  I feel theother way round ;}
[07:53] <Wolfwalker> !Xubuntu
[07:53] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:53] <hackerboy> HardandFast: thanx for the backup.
[07:53] <jonathan_> ubuntu is a perfect OS
[07:53] <andrej> tonyyarusso : those command line tools?
[07:53] <jonathan_> I love it
[07:53] <Wolfwalker> Um..........
[07:53] <neuraloverload> Wow, this is kind of cool
[07:53] <tanath> hackerboy, you can click Add wallpaper to add images to the list, which you can download
[07:53] <andrej> It's a SERVER. no X
[07:53] <bruenig> jonathan_, discrete release, ewww
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> andrej: No, in both cases.
[07:53] <Wolfwalker> !Xfce
[07:54] <lastexile> hello! Has anyone had problems when trying to mount sd cards with 7.10?
[07:54] <tanath> hackerboy, also, i believe in firefox you can right click on an image and choose, Set as wallpaper
[07:54] <EJ> [ andrej] : apt-get install kubuntu
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> andrej: ah, whoop - just saw the server bit.  ifconfig?
[07:54] <tasmania> anyone know why it is that i loose my application title bar when i install beryl? :O
[07:54] <MasterShrek> its kubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <Wolfwalker> !Xfce
[07:54] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:54] <andrej> deb/ubu come with a curses based tool that sets up network in install
[07:54] <EJ> [ andrej] : the run startx
[07:54] <andrej> I watn that
[07:54] <hoyt_> anyone able to use a usb bluetooth adapter?
[07:54] <Wolfwalker> Grrr
[07:54] <lastexile> hello! Has anyone had problems when trying to mount sd cards with 7.10?
[07:54] <andrej> EJ: not an option. box is an OLD server
[07:54] <MasterShrek> !patience
[07:54] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:54] <Wolfwalker> Okay, any takers for a newbie's question?  I mean lets say I have BNC's running on my box and for some reason it had to be rebooted, I want it to run the BNCS alone again when it turns back on
[07:55] <hackerboy> tanath: okay thank you i knew how to get to change desktop background i just didnt know how to add on more images sorry my bad i should have explained a little better. thanx tho
[07:55] <andrej> and to do the  install I'd need network going
[07:55] <Wolfwalker> But it uses less resources?
[07:55] <jonathan_> no
[07:55] <jonathan_> it's same
[07:55] <tanath> hackerboy, np. live & learn
[07:55] <lastexile> wolfwalker a light desktop enviroment when computer resources are an issue if the one you might want
[07:55] <bruenig> Wolfwalker, yes
[07:55] <tanath> hackerboy, it's easy to miss
[07:55] <EJ> [ andrej] : wired nic ?
[07:56] <Wolfwalker> Does Xubuntu come on a live cd I hope?
[07:56] <neuraloverload> Wow, im not entirely sure I like this terminal IRC client
[07:56] <jonathan_> but Xfce performance are better than the other desktop environment
[07:56] <andrej> EJ: Yah. Two of them actually
[07:56] <bruenig> xfce uses less RAM
[07:56] <andrej> And yes, I found /etc/network
[07:56] <Wolfwalker> |neuraloverload:| get Xchat2
[07:56] <Wolfwalker> It doth totally rock
[07:56] <jonathan_> try to use: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:56] <andrej> but am not interested in learning all about debians way to handle this stuff for a one-off
[07:56] <threethirty> wolfwalker: you can get xubuntu from ship-it
[07:56] <tanath> neuraloverload, which? it might be handy to have around if x dies and you need help...
[07:56] <|_ocke> i knew upgrading to 7.04 was going to cause all sorts of problems :(
[07:56] <jonathan_> to install xubuntu and choose your sessions
[07:57] <SMockie> Current Downstream: 67.80 KBytes/s
[07:57] <Wolfwalker> Nah, I'd just bit torrent it
[07:57] <bruenig> |_ocke, the beauty of discrete release distros
[07:57] <tasmania> anyone run Beryl?  if so, anyone know why I loose the title bar to all my applications?
[07:57] <|_ocke> but these are ridiculous problems that i would have never expected
[07:57] <Wolfwalker> Leave Shipit for the people who are on dialup and need it.
[07:57] <jonathan_> tasmania, might be it's a bug
[07:57] <SMockie> Current Downstream: 66.21 KBytes/s
[07:57] <neuraloverload> tanath: Irssi
[07:57] <jonathan_> try to use compiz fusion, better
[07:57] <bruenig> |_ocke, you might want to consider a rolling release distribution if you aren't a big fan of these upgrade headaches
[07:57] <tanath> tasmania, i'm using compiz-fusion, but try installing beryl-manager. lets you reload the window decorations
[07:58] <|_ocke> bruenig, what is that?
[07:58] <tanath> neuraloverload, yeh, it's not too bad when you get used to it
[07:58] <goban> hi, i just installed and its great but it doesnt detect my resolution of 1680 1050 how do i fix?
[07:58] <hackerboy> tanath: lol yeah wat type of linux do u have. i have the ubuntu ultimate edition is this a good one to have?
[07:58] <tanath> neuraloverload, it can save you too so i keep it installed
[07:58] <tanath> hackerboy, i'm running ubuntu feisty
[07:58] <ppsor329> ppsor329
[07:58] <neuraloverload> Yeah I plan on keeping it installed
[07:58] <tasmania> tenath, i have installed it twice, unfortunately... i'll try compiz-fusion, however, and see if that works better
[07:58] <tanath> hackerboy, will upgrade near the end of the month or so
[07:58] <bruenig> |_ocke, instead of packaging everything and then holding off for 6 months and then upgrading everything again, you are always up to date and there is no giant jump that causes untraceable breakage
[07:58] <nominal> goban system->preferences_>screen resolution?
[07:58] <andrej> Oh shucks.  Vim it is ... screw "tools" :D
[07:59] <lastexile> hello! Has anyone had problems when trying to mount sd cards with 7.10?
[07:59] <lastexile> hello! Has anyone had problems when trying to mount sd cards with 7.10?
[07:59] <jonathan_> tasmania, try this link http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/
[07:59] <andrej> later guys, and I don't mind the lack of knowledge in the ubuntu community, hoest
[07:59] <andrej> honest even
[07:59] <tasmania> lastexile, i've never had any problems with it
[07:59] <lastexile> really
[07:59] <hoyt_> make sure you have gnome-settings-daemon running at startup, it helped with my panel not showing up
[07:59] <goban> nominal, nope its not there
[07:59] <tasmania> yeah, you might be having driver issues
[07:59] <tasmania> jonathan, thanks, looking at it now
[07:59] <tanath> tasmania, works for me. i use trevino's repository. it gets unstable sometimes, but i just stop updating for a while when i get a stable update
[07:59] <nominal> goban not supported by the driver then i suppose
[08:00] <lastexile> tasmania - thing is that it works perfectly in 6.10 but in 7.04 it doesnt
[08:00] <lastexile> tasmania - any guide or wiki or document that might help me?
[08:00] <jonathan_> u need to install beryl-manager too
[08:00] <tasmania> lastexile, i'm running 7.04 right now, i've had zero problems with it
[08:00] <Shaye> How can you run commands automatically after boot? I mean lets say I have BNC's running on my box and for some reason it had to be rebooted, I want it to run the BNCS alone again when it turns back on
[08:00] <jonathan_> to load your window manager
[08:01] <tasmania> try a google search
[08:01] <|_ocke> so how would i best install the latest kernel, k7
[08:01] <lastexile> it doesnt show anything - that's why im bothering people here
[08:01] <lastexile> :(
[08:01] <hackerboy> tanath: why the end of the month but quick question is ubuntu feisty better then the ultimate edition
[08:01] <syte> MasterShrek: I reinstalled the drivers and had my xorg configured to nvidia. My screen went blank again and my monitor displayed "No Input Signal. Go to Power Save Mode". Then i reconfigured xorg with nvidia, and i received the same problems. So, apparently the operating system doesnt boot up unless i have "nv or vesa" set. :(
[08:01] <EJ> [ Shaye] : would it be anything like autobotchk with an eggdrop ?
[08:01] <tasmania> jonathan, through app install i've installed both of them, both the easy and the advanced configuration
[08:02] <nominal> shaye know how to write scripts? http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[08:02] <tanath> hackerboy, i know next to nothing about the ultimate edition except that it exists... don't think it's an official release... mine is
[08:02] <tasmania> jonathan, should i try installing the manager and then the application?
[08:02] <MasterShrek> very strange syte i would say you may just have to wait a bit until the card is more supportd
[08:02] <Wolfwalker> Right, I just started the xubuntu bit torrent, desktop, i386
[08:02] <tanath> hackerboy, i'm updating near the end of the month because that's about when i expect the next release to be sufficiently stable & bug free for me
[08:02] <Wolfwalker> So is this a live cd, or is it like Ubuntu's alternate cd?
[08:02] <tanath> hackerboy, it comes out in october
[08:03] <syte> MasterShrek, i did have an ati card before this. Does forgetting to delete some of my ati files might be the cause of this?
[08:03] <goban> nominal, so how do i change then :?(
[08:03] <MasterShrek> i dont think so syte
[08:03] <slavik> syte, this is linux, not windows :P
[08:03] <tanath> hackerboy, doesn't hurt to try lots of distros. ultimately though, you can set up pretty much any distro how you like with whatever programs you like
[08:04] <hackerboy> tanath: oh okay so like the ubuntu feisty going to get upgraded by late september, beginning october
[08:04] <nominal> goban, i suppose you could look and see if there is another compatable driver, but i don't know much more than that.. sorry
[08:04] <syte> MasterShrek: thx for helping. lol slavik
[08:04] <|_ocke> im having synaptic install linux-image-k7, will that do it?
[08:04] <hackerboy> tanath: thank for the hint i will do that
[08:04] <tanath> hackerboy, the version after feisty is gutsy gibbon, due oct 18
[08:04] <slavik> hackerboy: still trolling?
[08:04] <xooi> :-!
[08:04] <sparr> i wish i could find a distro with [k] ubuntu's awesome out-of-the-box configuration, and debian's stable/testing/unstable package release scheme
[08:04] <slavik> sparr: backports
[08:05] <hackerboy> slavik: ? is ubunto feisty better then the ultimate edition version cuz that what i have.
[08:05] <sparr> slavik: woefully underrepresentative of all available packages
[08:05] <slavik> ultimate edition of what?
[08:05] <HardandFast> Windows Vista Ultimate
[08:05] <tanath> hackerboy, the main difference between most distros is the default setup/config/apps/etc
[08:06] <tanath> hackerboy, add the right repositories and you can install whatever apps you like
[08:06] <lastexile> tanah don't forget the visual aspect :P
[08:06] <First|Bleh> There's apparently an ultimate edition of ubuntu as well, but it's a customized 3rd party version.
[08:06] <hackerboy> tanath: gutsy gibbion okay oct 18 did not know that i need to stay on ubuntu more.
[08:06] <TBZ> wow, that wasn't fun
[08:06] <Wolfwalker> Ubuntu 7.04 fiesty is MUCH better than Windows Vista Ultimate Edition.
[08:06] <TBZ> what is the command or hotkey to exit a virtual console?
[08:06] <Axioo> MasterShrek, how about bloetooth devices, are they generally supported by Ubuntu?
[08:06] <slavik> hackerboy: you need to troll less.
[08:06] <Wolfwalker> Easier to install, easier to get drivers, easier to use.
[08:06] <dystopianray> TBZ: ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[08:06] <[GN] ViRii[K] > How can I save a file with pico when it says that I lack permission?
[08:07] <TBZ> dystopianray: I don't know but if so thank you so much haha
[08:07] <MasterShrek> Axioo, i had a usb dongle that used to work, but doesnt now
[08:07] <faileas> [GN] ViRii[K] : save it somewhere else, open it with sudo, and save it where it needs to be
[08:07] <dystopianray> [GN] ViRii[K] : which file is it? a configuration file in /etc? you'll need to use sudo to edit anything there
[08:07] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , if you need to save that exact file, you'll need to either change the permissions, or do it as root
[08:07] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , if not, you could copy the text and create a new file to save it in
[08:07] <WaltzingAlong> Wolfwalker: and no os installed spyware
[08:07] <Wolfwalker> So is this bit torrent iso of Xubuntu I just started a live cd, or is it like Ubuntu's alternate cd?
[08:07] <[GN] ViRii[K] > how can I do it as root?
[08:07] <bullgard4> Why is there no man kinit?
[08:07] <WaltzingAlong> Wolfwalker: plus it is faster on any same powered vista computer
[08:08] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , and make sure you have permission to save in the directory you're trying to save to
[08:08] <hackerboy> tanath: could u tell me what the the right repositories are if its not a problem. I just installed my linux earlier today and ive been reading the help instructions to long.
[08:08] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Its sources.list
[08:08] <|_ocke> k im trying envy to see what happens..
[08:08] <dystopianray> Wolfwalker: what is the name of the file you are downloading?
[08:08] <WaltzingAlong> Wolfwalker: what is the name?
[08:08] <Axioo> MasterShrek, meaning that it was working with Windows and now not working in Ubuntu?
[08:08] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Trying to open up the universal repository
[08:08] <tanath> hackerboy, depends. right repositories for what?
[08:08] <Wolfwalker> Yeah, for real. A friend of mine indexed his hard drive in Vista and it took up 400 megs ram o.O
[08:08] <MasterShrek> no it worked with an older version of ubuntu
[08:08] <[GN] ViRii[K] > nvm got it :D
[08:08] <tanath> hackerboy, generally, enabling all the official ubuntu repositories will get you all the apps you need
[08:09] <MasterShrek> breezy i think it was
[08:09] <Wolfwalker> The file is xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:09] <dystopianray> Wolfwalker: that is the livecd
[08:09] <dystopianray> Wolfwalker: alternate cd will say alternate instead of desktop
[08:09] <Axioo> MasterShrek, breezy (6.10)? and now you're using 7.04?
[08:09] <Wolfwalker> Ahh
[08:09] <[GN] ViRii[K] > arg.. I opened up the universal repository and it still can't find the pisg package
[08:09] <Wolfwalker> Thank you
[08:09] <[GN] ViRii[K] > and I know its there, cause its right here
[08:09] <[GN] ViRii[K] > http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/pisg
[08:10] <Wolfwalker> |[GN] ViRii[K] :| That's what they made Google for :)
[08:10] <MasterShrek> [GN] ViRii[K] , sudo apt-get update
[08:10] <Axioo> MasterShrek, is it because of driver problem or any thing else?
[08:10] <|_ocke> k ima restart and see what happens
[08:10] <[GN] ViRii[K] > thanks MasterShrek
[08:10] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , did you update?
[08:10] <[GN] ViRii[K] > I just did and it still isnt working
[08:10] <bullgard4> What files are stored in the /usr/lib/klibc directory? What does 'klibc' stand for?
[08:10] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , what MasterShrek said, or Reload in Synaptic
[08:11] <[GN] ViRii[K] > I just did it, and it didnt work now either
[08:11] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , still can't install? what's the error?
[08:11] <dystopianray> bullgard4: klibc is a small C library intended for kernel integration
[08:11] <Wolfwalker> |[GN] ViRii[K] :| If you're already there, why not just download the .deb file and give it to synaptic to handle.
[08:11] <Wolfwalker> ?
[08:11] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Reading package lists... Done
[08:11] <[GN] ViRii[K] > tyler@TyServ:~$ sudo apt-get install pisg
[08:11] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Reading package lists... Done
[08:11] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Building dependency tree... Done
[08:11] <[GN] ViRii[K] > E: Couldn't find package pisg
[08:11] <Wolfwalker> Oh
[08:12] <dystopianray> I noticed a missing package the other day when trying to install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:12] <m0u5e> anyone know if there is a difference between xmbrowser and pYNeighborhood in the way it mounts samba shares? (cause i can't get pYneighborhood to work, and it seems to be a samba problem)
[08:12] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Any ideas Wolfwalker?
[08:12] <bullgard4> dystopianray: Thank you very much for explaining.
[08:12] <Axioo> MasterShrek,
[08:12] <nominal> virii i see it listed in synaptic
[08:13] <Beta-guy> anyone here have expieriance with Linux on PS3 issues?
[08:13] <tanath> hackerboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:13] <[GN] ViRii[K] > Hmm, any clue what Im doing wrong nominal?
[08:13] <Guest49220> Has anyone had problems with their monitor going into power save mode when installing ubuntu?
[08:13] <tanath> hackerboy, disregard, sorry
[08:13] <Shaye> nominal / EJ i think it can be done in a less complax way? i just want my server auto start BNC after boot, that's it
[08:13] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:13] <Axioo> Master Shrek, so the way for me to connect to the internet is via supported modem or network (LAN or Wireless)?
[08:14] <Shaye> complex**
[08:14] <nominal> virii, nope try intall from synaptic
[08:14] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , btw, do you know it's "viruses", not "virii"?
[08:15] <bruenig> it would be viri not virii
[08:15] <tanath> which means 'men'
[08:15] <m0u5e> its viruses because this aint latin :)
[08:15] <bruenig> true
[08:15] <m0u5e> same reason why its octupuses and not octipi
[08:15] <tanath> vir = man. viri = men.
[08:15] <bruenig> tanath, puella = girl
[08:15] <tanath> :)
[08:15] <bruenig> aqua = water
[08:15] <tanath> not on the internets :P
[08:16] <|_ocke> ok, i have nv still
[08:16] <hackerboy> tanath: disregard what. THe website you listed above
[08:16] <tanath> hackerboy, yeh. was meant for someone else
[08:16] <|_ocke> and installing linux-image-k7 did nothign for bootup
[08:16] <|_ocke> its still 2.6.17, though it said it aws installing 2.6.20
[08:17] <m0u5e> hmm anyone know how to auto select a person name, instead of typing it everytime in response to someone? im using xchat-gnome
[08:17] <m0u5e> it would be greatly appreciated thx :D
[08:17] <xtknight> m0u5e, type the person's name and press <TAB>
[08:17] <hackerboy> tanath: oh okay. Hey what if i just install/enabled all of my repositories will that effect anything
[08:17] <bruenig> m0u5e, use xchat, use tab
[08:17] <dystopianray> m0u5e: most clients will let you tab complete names
[08:17] <alf> can anyone help with my monitor going into power save mode when ubuntu tries to boot?
[08:17] <sauvin> Type enough of the first few letters of the nick you want to address and then use the TAB key.
[08:17] <tanath> hackerboy, it will enable you to install everything in the enabled repos
[08:17] <m0u5e> dystopianray: ooh thx
[08:17] <TBZ> ok, here I go installing my drivers, wish me luck :'(
[08:17] <dystopianray> alf: what video card do you have?
[08:17] <m0u5e> dystopianray: it works :D
[08:17] <Wolfwalker> With this many people here, try typing the first three letters, then hit TAB
[08:17] <alf> x800xl
[08:17] <m0u5e> TY ALL :D
[08:17] <manhha> cho
[08:18] <tanath> hackerboy, after you update the package list, of course
[08:18] <TBZ> if I'm not back I have failed
[08:18] <|_ocke> i think i need to disconnect the old hd in here
[08:18] <|_ocke> im gonna try it and see what happens
[08:18] <bullgard4> m0u5e: On the beginning of your input line type the first three or so letters of the name. Then press the tab key.
[08:19] <tanath> m0u5e, and you can hit tab more than once to cycle through if there's more with the same beginning
[08:19] <nominal> shaye http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Forums_FAQ#How_can_I_make_Ubuntu_execute_a_script_or_program_at_startup.3F
[08:19] <m0u5e> bullgard4: ty :D
[08:19] <nominal> don't see any easier way
[08:19] <m0u5e> tanath: ty :D
[08:19] <Wolfwalker> Wow, ubuntu distros have STROOOOONG bit torrent support. 185kbps.
[08:19] <infernuscrusher> mountpoint cannot contain characters newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) error
[08:19] <Wolfwalker> Unfortunately, that's as fast as I can download it.
[08:19] <infernuscrusher> when trying to mount external hard disk
[08:19] <m0u5e> wolfwalker: try deluge :)
[08:19] <tanath> m0u5e, np. tab completion is handy and works in several apps. should work in terminal too
[08:20] <m0u5e> tanath: :D
[08:20] <Wolfwalker> |m0u5e:| I'm currently on Windows XP. What is deluge?
[08:20] <Wolfwalker> !deluge
[08:20] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[08:20] <m0u5e> lol when i asked that question, it was almost like... "how do i get +20 nrg with a rogue?"
[08:20] <sauvin> tanath, it does, but only if the shell you're using supports it. Bash DOES.
[08:20] <m0u5e> wolfwalker: oh, if you're using XP then use uTorrent
[08:20] <adamorjames> hwy compwiz
[08:20] <tanath> Wolfwalker, i find ktorrent to be the best. fast and efficient
[08:20] <adamorjames> *hey
[08:20] <Wolfwalker> I'm using Bit Comet, which does well enough
[08:20] <compwiz> hey adamorjames
[08:20] <tanath> sauvin, yeh. i use zsh
[08:20] <infernuscrusher> hey somebody help1
[08:20] <compwiz> adamorjames, no cake
[08:20] <infernuscrusher> mountpoint cannot contain characters newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) error
[08:20] <infernuscrusher> mountpoint cannot contain characters newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) error
[08:20] <m0u5e> tanath, but for us who don't use kubuntu, deluge is great too :D its gotton a lot better in just a few months
[08:20] <Juno> whats the terminal commadn to extract a tar.gz?
[08:20] <adamorjames> ok compwiz
[08:20] <infernuscrusher> when trying to mount external hard disk
[08:21] <tanath> m0u5e, i use gnome
[08:21] <jkessler> sorry...
[08:21] <jkessler> drunk.
[08:21] <m0u5e> tanath, i used to use ktorrent, but the latest ver of deluge is really good
[08:21] <tanath> m0u5e, deluge didn't work for me
[08:21] <the_padawan> hi all, is there any way in ubuntu to switch to run level 3 = multi-user w/o graphical?
[08:21] <m0u5e> tanath: have you tried the latest ver:D
[08:21] <infernuscrusher> !mount
[08:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:21] <tanath> m0u5e, meh. to each their own
[08:21] <the_padawan> i like to use that mode to save battery on my labtop
[08:21] <tanath> m0u5e, depends when it was released...
[08:21] <infernuscrusher> !fstab
[08:21] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:22] <tanath> m0u5e, it was about a week ago
[08:22] <Juno> whats the terminal command to extract a tar.gz?
[08:22] <tanath> m0u5e, new version since then?
[08:22] <the_padawan> Juno: tar xvfz archive.tar
[08:22] <the_padawan> Juno: tar xvfz archive.tar.gz
[08:22] <infernuscrusher> !partitions
[08:22] <jkessler> tar zxvf /path/ archive
[08:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:22] <m0u5e> i didn't liek the new tab update for ktorrent, and since i reformatted and put xubuntu on, i needed to install bit again
[08:22] <xtknight> "tar xvf" also works
[08:22] <Juno> where to i put the destination?
[08:22] <xtknight> for both gz and bz32
[08:22] <infernuscrusher> !fstab
[08:22] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:22] <tanath> gparted owns qtparted
[08:22] <m0u5e> i'm using 0.5.4
[08:22] <xtknight> Juno, hmm it goes in the current dir by default
[08:22] <Juno> roger that
[08:22] <Juno> thank you
[08:23] <infernuscrusher> can anybody help?
[08:23] <Walls7> im on livecd right now and on gparted, i want to resize my windows partion so i can put more GB's into ubuntu, but it gives me to different "unallocated" partions, one for windows and one for linux, but i want those free space combined. can anyone help?
[08:23] <infernuscrusher> or not?
[08:23] <TBZ> =/
[08:23] <xtknight> Juno, most tar .gzs have one directory inside them, so most of the time it wont make a mess of you current dir
[08:23] <Neural_Overload> Is there a way to run a program from the terminal without the terminal being hooked to that program?
[08:23] <TBZ> How can I close down Gnome and go to hard terminal
[08:23] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, "program &"
[08:23] <[GN] ViRii[K] > tanath: Ive seen this link before, it doesnt help me
[08:23] <the_padawan> yeah but it depends on how kind the archive creaters are
[08:23] <the_padawan> hi all, is there any way in ubuntu to switch to run level 3 = multi-user w/o graphical?
[08:23] <[GN] ViRii[K] > I followed the instructions and unlocked the universal reps and still nothing
[08:23] <Neural_Overload> xtknight: like... irssi &
[08:23] <Neural_Overload> ?
[08:24] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, yea
[08:24] <nominal> infernuscrusher, are you plugging a usb drive w/ ntfs on it?
[08:24] <m0u5e> walls7: if the free space is next to each other, it would automatically be combined
[08:24] <infernuscrusher> mountpoint cannot contain characters newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) error when trying to mount xternal hdd
[08:24] <MasterShrek> the_padawan, telinit 3    i believe
[08:24] <tanath> infernuscrusher, it appears it thinks your mount point (/media/something ?) has a / in the name...
[08:24] <hackerboy> tanath: okay then so its okay to just install/enbale all of the repotories then.
[08:24] <Walls7> m0u5e: no they arnt next to each other
[08:24] <MasterShrek> the_padawan, u may need to be root though
[08:24] <the_padawan> MasterShrek: it does not work in ubuntu. it appears to be set to be exactly the same as level 5
[08:24] <m0u5e> Walls7: you can't move partitions back, so you're screwed i guess :X
[08:24] <infernuscrusher> yes i am plugging an ntfs hdd to ubuntu
[08:24] <MasterShrek> strange
[08:24] <infernuscrusher> how do i fix this?
[08:24] <nominal> infernuscrusher, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3091731
[08:24] <tanath> hackerboy, enable, yes. then update and your system can 'see' the packages in those repos and you can install them
[08:24] <Axioo> Anyone from Indonesia ? Jakarta especialy?
[08:24] <MasterShrek> !ntfs-3g | infernuscrusher
[08:24] <m0u5e> walls7: if the freespace is after your ubuntu partition, you should be able to add it to the ubuntu part, but if its before it, then you're screwd :X
[08:25] <ubotu> infernuscrusher: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:25] <the_padawan> MasterShrek: as i understand, what redhat sets as level 3 ubuntu does not have by default. ubuntu treats init levels 2-5 as the same thing (as does debian)
[08:25] <compwiz> adamorjames, will try for cake again soon :)
[08:25] <MasterShrek> then i have no idea the_padawan
[08:25] <infernuscrusher> thank you
[08:25] <adamorjames> ok compwiz
[08:25] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, well "irssi &" will probably do nothing since irssi is a terminal client?
[08:25] <the_padawan> MasterShrek: aite, will continue looking into it, thanks anyway
[08:25] <Juno> what about a command to copy a file to a folder with overwrite?
[08:25] <Lo_Pan> screen irssi
[08:25] <Neural_Overload> xtknight: True, I thought aboutt hat after I said it
[08:25] <TBZ> MasterShrek: Hey,  how can I close down Gnome and all and get to terminal without virtual console or rebooting safe mode kernel?
[08:25] <tanath> hackerboy, some repos may have legal issues (patents and such) in some countries
[08:25] <Walls7> m0u5e: the thing is, i resize my windows partion so it gives 10GB of free space. but the free space partion that windows uses is on top of ubunu, so it wont take GB's from there
[08:26] <compwiz> yay cake!
[08:26] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, :)
[08:26] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , why not?
[08:26] <Neural_Overload> xtknight: im tired :P
[08:26] <nominal> wait till he tries to write to the ntfs drive.. ;)
[08:26] <MasterShrek> i dont know what you are asking TBZ
[08:26] <Walls7> m0u5e: so theres nothing i can do?
[08:26] <cjae> using ktorrent if someone actually selected the wrong download directory for several files
[08:26] <monkeybritches> i like cake
[08:26] <m0u5e> Walls7: yeah pretty much... :(
[08:26] <TBZ> I want to go to my shell, without GUI, but... I don't want to reboot my recovery kernel
[08:26] <Radio> what exactly is samba used for?
[08:26] <m0u5e> Walls7: well you can always copy your home folder to an external / different HD, then reformat ubuntu, and move it all back?
[08:26] <cjae> how do I put them in right directory
[08:26] <xtknight> !samba | Radio
[08:26] <ubotu> Radio: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:26] <Juno> whats the command to move a file and overwrite?
[08:27] <dystopianray> Radio: mounting and servring SMB shares
[08:27] <m0u5e> walls7: dunno if you want to do that though
[08:27] <Radio> SMB?
[08:27] <djkorn_> wuzup!?
[08:27] <MasterShrek> TBZ, ctrl+alt+f1, then as root /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:27] <xtknight> server message block
[08:27] <Radio> ah
[08:27] <xtknight> fancy way of saying file and printer sharing
[08:27] <xtknight> and some other ..stuff
[08:27] <TBZ> MasterShrek: gotcha! thanks
[08:27] <Walls7> so thats all i would need to save, Home folder?
[08:27] <Radio> so samba will allow me to transfer files between ubuntu/windows partitions?
[08:27] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , ok, if you have enabled the repos, and updated, you should have no problem installing the package. otherwise, either the repo wasn't properly added, or your update didn't go as planned :P
[08:27] <dystopianray> Radio: it is one possible method
[08:27] <xtknight> Radio, not partitions.  that's a filesystem driver.  it lets you connect to a windows pc
[08:27] <djkorn_> so anyone can tell whats the best OSX DOCK alike with ubuntu???
[08:27] <cjae> anyone catch that
[08:28] <Radio> oh ok
[08:28] <m0u5e> btw, does anyone know how to reinitialize swap permanently? not just swapon dev/hd##
[08:28] <dystopianray> Radio: it's for file sharing over a network
[08:28] <tanath> [GN] ViRii[K] , try this instead: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:28] <Radio> hrrmmm
[08:28] <Lta3> I can't log into Ubuntu on a different computer after upgrading to 7.04. How can I access the files in that account to back them up, so that I can reinstall, OR- how can I reset the password and regain access to the account?
[08:28] <dystopianray> m0u5e: put it in /etc/fstab
[08:28] <xtknight> Radio, but you can use the ntfs and ntfs-3g drivers to read and write to windows partitions, respectively
[08:28] <xtknight> ( locally )
[08:28] <m0u5e> dystopianray: how do i do that?
[08:28] <Walls7> m0u5e: so al i would need to save is Home folder?
[08:29] <dystopianray> m0u5e: edit /etc/fstab as root, you should have another swap entry in there, the one from the install, copy that line and change the partition it uses
[08:29] <Juno> will someone just tell me the command to move a file and overwrite?
[08:29] <hackerboy> tanath: okay thnx alot. i'll give it a try see what happens. wait also i cant install envy on mine for some reason
[08:29] <m0u5e> Walls7: you'll have to reinstall apps too, so you might wanna get your apps from cache (if they're all still there)
[08:29] <nominal> juno mv
[08:29] <Juno> thank you
[08:29] <Radio> whats the difference between ntfs and the ntfs-3g drivers?
[08:29] <dystopianray> Lta3: you can boot a livecd on the machine, mount the root partition, chroot in and run passwd to reset the password
[08:29] <xtknight> Juno, mv source dest
[08:29] <bullgard4> dystopianray: What is the function or role of the executable program 'sleep' in /usr/lib/klibc/bin/sleep?
[08:29] <nominal> yw
[08:29] <m0u5e> dystopianray: oh oops, haha thx
[08:29] <Walls7> m0u5e: i jsut installed ubuntu anyway so i really dont have much
[08:29] <dystopianray> bullgard4: man sleep
[08:29] <HardandFast> dude, the mariwana keeps me high -- like a kite
[08:30] <m0u5e> walls7: yeah, pretty much all your settings is in home, so just copy that and you're set
[08:30] <bullgard4> dystopianray: I will read man sleep. --  Thank you.
[08:30] <Walls7> m0u5e: copy that to a new partion?
[08:30] <Lta3> dystopianray: what is chroot?
[08:30] <xtknight> m0u5e, Walls7  make sure you copy with hidden files if you're doing "select all/copy" in /home/$USER/
[08:30] <m0u5e> walls7: well copy that to an external hd, your reformatting right?
[08:30] <tanath> hackerboy, envy doesn't appear to be in my repos...
[08:31] <m0u5e> xtknight: if he copies 'home/user' it should be fine right?
[08:31] <dystopianray> Lta3: it's used to change /, so it effectively gives you a root shell within your ubuntu install
[08:31] <Walls7> m0u5e: yea
[08:31] <xtknight> m0u5e, not sure.  "sudo cp -a" is the way i always do it, it's perfect
[08:31] <|_ocke> ok removing the old hd fixed my kernel woes
[08:31] <|_ocke> im runnign 2.6.20 now
[08:31] <xtknight> i think if you right click 'andy' under /home, for example, it will also  copy hidens
[08:31] <xtknight> hiddens*
[08:31] <m0u5e> Walls7: well listen to xtkight then :D, i usually have no prob when i select a root folder, but if you want to be safe use sudo cp- a :)
[08:31] <Lta3> dystopianray: cool. thanks. I'll give it a shot
[08:31] <|_ocke> no nvidia yet though
[08:31] <xtknight> i just dont trust nautilus as much as "cp -a" sometimes :)
[08:31] <m0u5e> xtknight: lol
[08:32] <Neural_Overload> xtknight: what does cp -a do?
[08:32] <m0u5e> hey, anyone know a drop down terminal (like yuquake) for xfce4?
[08:32] <hackerboy> tanath: uh on mine envys under applications>system tools list
[08:32] <infernuscrusher> i have installed ntfs-3g to read ntfs xternal hdd but it doesnt work
[08:32] <Walls7> m0u5e: can i copy the files on the livecd?
[08:32] <infernuscrusher> still the same message
[08:32] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, copy recursively, all folders underneath the specified one
[08:32] <Neural_Overload> I see
[08:32] <infernuscrusher> mountpoint cannot contain characters newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) error when trying to mount xternal hdd
[08:32] <xtknight> "cp -a" = "copy all"
[08:32] <m0u5e> Walls7: you should be able to...
[08:32] <hackerboy> tanath: is this because we both have different versions of ubuntu
[08:32] <tanath> hackerboy, that means it's installed
[08:32] <dystopianray> infernuscrusher: install ntfs-config and use that to set ntfs write capabilities
[08:32] <Neural_Overload> xtknight: So that would essentially copy your entire drive, no?
[08:33] <tanath> hackerboy, did you download the package from the website or something?
[08:33] <helpjeff_> hello
[08:33] <|_ocke> im still running generic though
[08:33] <m0u5e> Walls7: it's easier just to back it all up now though?
[08:33] <|_ocke> i want k7
[08:33] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, it could.  but it can also do just the folder you specify.
[08:33] <helpjeff_> i find driver for lexmark z735
[08:33] <Neural_Overload> I see
[08:33] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, "all" refers to the fact it ALSO copies all dirs under the specified one
[08:33] <helpjeff_> openpriniting write z730 work properly with generic postscript
[08:33] <helpjeff_> but not z735
[08:33] <xtknight> Neural_Overload, /home/andy/myfolder1 would be copied via "cp -a /home/andy /destination"
[08:33] <m0u5e> Walls7: if you don't have another comp, i suppose you could make a new part after your current ubuntu one, and dump it there for now, bu t thats just long and painful -_-;
[08:33] <Neural_Overload> I see
[08:33] <xtknight> and all folders under myfolder1 also.  it's multi-level recursion
[08:33] <tanath> hackerboy, you're on 'ubuntu ultimate' aren't you? you have different repos with other software, including envy i suppose
[08:34] <Neural_Overload> OH
[08:34] <Neural_Overload> I get it
[08:34] <m0u5e> ubuntu ultimate? lol
[08:34] <TBZ> MasterShrek: That still leave X running
[08:34] <xtknight> $400 version of ubuntu with activation requirements? :)
[08:34] <MasterShrek> do killall gdm
[08:34] <infernuscrusher> i have installed libfuse2
[08:34] <infernuscrusher> fuse-utils
[08:34] <infernuscrusher> libntfs-3g
[08:34] <infernuscrusher> ntfs-3g
[08:34] <infernuscrusher> ntfs-config
[08:34] <TBZ> MasterShrek: kk
[08:34] <infernuscrusher> and configured to read and write from applications > system tools > ntfs configuration
[08:35] <m0u5e> anyone know how i can use Thunar to samba into a windows computer?
[08:35] <Neural_Overload> xtknight: Thanks for clarifying that :)
[08:35] <infernuscrusher> but still the same msg
[08:35] <m0u5e> or is that impossible? :(
[08:35] <xtknight> m0u5e, does the address "samba:///" or "smb:///" take you anywhere in thunar?
[08:35] <MasterShrek> m0u5e, if the samba share is mounted
[08:35] <infernuscrusher> mountpoint cannot contain characters newfile, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) error when trying to mount xternal hdd
[08:35] <xtknight> or, perhaps, "thunar smb:///"
[08:35] <Walls7> m0u5e: meh ill just install a fresh ubuntu.. thanks for the help!
[08:35] <m0u5e> mastershrek: well in ubuntu, i can use it to acces m$ root shares
[08:35] <tanath> hackerboy, yeh, ubuntu ultimate is unofficial i believe. just as more default software. nothing you can't really get in an official release if you want
[08:35] <Juno> is there a way i can work as root?
[08:35] <m0u5e> Walls7: np, sorry i couldnt be of more help :(
[08:35] <xtknight> !root  | Juno
[08:35] <ubotu> Juno: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:36] <nominal> infernuscrusher, are you getting that error when you plug in the drive and turn it on?
[08:36] <m0u5e> xtknight: nope :(
[08:36] <xtknight> i love that factoid.  it goes like movie and gives suspense.
[08:36] <infernuscrusher> yes
[08:36] <hackerboy> tanath: okay because ive been trying to use the 3D graphics on my linux but dont how on this one. Because on my other computer i had the original linux and it wasnt that hard. thats why i asked these questions
[08:36] <bullgard4> -
[08:36] <Juno> I'm trying to get away from using sudo and the terminal for EVERYTHING
[08:36] <infernuscrusher> when trying to plug it in
[08:36] <infernuscrusher> the error msg comes up
[08:36] <nominal> i just turn the drive on, and it detects it auto
[08:36] <m0u5e> xtknight: it takes me no where
[08:36] <xtknight> Juno, everything being what? :P
[08:36] <Walls7> I've been hearing that xubuntu is better than ubuntu, is there much of a differece?
[08:36] <xtknight> m0u5e, ok i guess you will have to mount the samba share to a dir with smb or cifs, then access that via thunar
[08:37] <tanath> hackerboy, i used to have a problem with that, but since i started using feisty i just used the default and it just worked
[08:37] <infernuscrusher> and i cant access the drive
[08:37] <xtknight> Walls7, not better, maybe faster for other PCs
[08:37] <hackerboy> tanath: okay then im going to try and get the version you have. Because yours seems to be a workable one mines not.
[08:37] <Juno> I'm trying to extract a file into a folder, but I dont have permission to
[08:37] <xtknight> Walls7, older PCs*
[08:37] <Juno> and I dont know enough about the terminal to do it
[08:37] <WaltzingAlong> Walls7: ubuntu is ubuntu; xubuntu is ubuntu but with xfce as the gui; same with kubuntu, is ubuntu with kde as the gui. from ubuntu, install xubuntu-desktop to get "xubuntu"
[08:37] <m0u5e> Walls7: well... i use xubuntu, but thats partly b/c of my slow system
[08:37] <tanath> hackerboy, well, you do have different hardware..
[08:37] <pete83> Walls7: compare their looks here: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php
[08:37] <xtknight> Juno, what folder are you trying to extract it to?
[08:37] <xtknight> Juno, anything under your home dir shouldnt require "permissions"
[08:37] <m0u5e> Walls7: i've found xubuntu is generally cleaner and faster, but doesn't have everything that ubuntu has
[08:37] <nominal> infernuscrusher, dunno what to tell you.. it works for me, even on vista partitions
[08:37] <WaltzingAlong> well i prefer kde and xfce to gnome, actually prefer fluxbox to gnome; and besides, i switch among these three
[08:38] <Juno> you want the whole directory?
[08:38] <hackerboy> tanath: or u able to download applications on line to your desktop and then open them to your linux, b/c i cant on mine.
[08:38] <xtknight> Juno, the path? yea
[08:38] <Juno> /usr/src/....
[08:38] <tanath> hackerboy, one thing to consider, ultimate is unofficial and therefore doesn't have the support that official ubuntu releases have. you can file bug reports & stuff. with ultimate you have to rely on the maintainer
[08:38] <m0u5e> Walls7: i've ended up having to install some gnome libraries anyways, but its not that bad since xubuntu uses a lot of GTK stuff anyways
[08:38] <helpjeff_> thank ypu
[08:38] <WaltzingAlong> m0u5e: but of course anything you want to install in xubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu you can
[08:38] <xtknight> Juno, ah ok.
[08:38] <Walls7> m0u5e, pete83, WaltzingAlong: thanks
[08:38] <infernuscrusher> my internal laptop hdd is partitioned to hold windows and linux
[08:38] <m0u5e> WaltzingAlong: yup :)
[08:38] <tanath> hackerboy, sure you can... why can't you??
[08:38] <infernuscrusher> in gnome partition editor, it says "unable to find mountpoint" for windows partition
[08:38] <xtknight> Juno, well if you want to give your user permissions there, then try "sudo chmod a+w /usr/src"
[08:38] <infernuscrusher> but i can still access the drive
[08:38] <tanath> hackerboy, for most stuff you shouldn't need to though.... pretty much everything you need should be in the repos
[08:39] <m0u5e> WaltzingAlong: i generally try not to though, it slows down my system :(
[08:39] <xtknight> Juno, you will need to do it for any folders under that to which you will need access, as well.
[08:39] <m0u5e> WaltzingAlong: especially K- things
[08:39] <WaltzingAlong> m0u5e: yeah i can understand sticking with the packages that come with the distro
[08:39] <xtknight> Juno, it would be helpful to know what your end goal is though.
[08:39] <xtknight> (what are you extracting to /usr/src/?)
[08:39] <tanath> infernuscrusher, i think either the directory it's trying to mount to doesn't exist, or it doesn't know where to mount it because it's not listed in /etc/fstab
[08:39] <m0u5e> WaltzingAlong: but in terms of networking and samba, Thunar just can't do what i need it to do :(
[08:39] <maxagaz> is there a command to recursively copy a drawer into a ftp directory ?
[08:40] <Juno> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:40] <xtknight> a drawer?
[08:40] <xtknight> gnome feature perhaps?
[08:40] <syte> has anyone used envy with the 8600 gt? i kind of want to play a few games so i cant wait till October
[08:40] <infernuscrusher> is there a way to fix it?
[08:40] <WaltzingAlong> m0u5e: even when i use xfce, i still am using amarok for audio and konqueror for file browsing and some web browsing
[08:40] <Juno> I'm trying to do that, but update the realtek patch file to the newest version
[08:40] <xtknight> Juno, you can type "gksu nautilus" and that will give you sudo access to every folder.  extract anyything anywhere you want.  just make sure you know what you're doing
[08:41] <WaltzingAlong> Juno: i have had issues with that one as well but was able to get sound working by modifying the modprobe.d/alsa-base
[08:41] <deathblooms> Is the Screenlets Site still down. cause i cant install this
[08:41] <m0u5e> WaltzingAlong: have you tried epiphany? i actually like it alot
[08:41] <WaltzingAlong> m0u5e: no
[08:41] <m0u5e> WaltzingAlong: and i was losing faith in firefox, but recently it seems to have gotton a little faster and more stable
[08:41] <tanath> m0u5e, it grows on you, eh?
[08:41] <hackerboy> tanath: okay yeah im going to get the ubuntu u have. would it be possibel for u to help me install it so i dont have got threw the help menu and read everything about ultimate which didnt much help me at all.
[08:41] <pete83> WaltzingAlong: try firefox, it's not too bad
[08:41] <m0u5e> tanath: which? :D
[08:41] <WaltzingAlong> thanks all, i use firefox as well for browsing
[08:41] <tanath> m0u5e, epiphany
[08:42] <infernuscrusher> but i can still access the drive
[08:42] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e: it can be even faster with versions compiled for your CPU architecture
[08:42] <m0u5e> tanath: YES! haha, at first i was like... hmm its just kinda like firefox... but after a while, for simple browsing i use it more often!
[08:42] <Juno> I'm just following the instructions on the howto.  I dont know enough about linux yet to be screwing around with anything.
[08:42] <infernuscrusher> in gnome partition editor, it says "unable to find mountpoint" for windows partition
[08:42] <infernuscrusher> but i can still access the drive
[08:42] <infernuscrusher> is there a way to fix it?
[08:42] <tanath> hackerboy, you shouldn't need too much help. download image, burn to cd, boot from cd... run through simple installer
[08:42] <deathblooms> Is the Screenlets Site still down. cause i cant install this
[08:42] <pete83> m0u5e: if you like epiphany, then you might really like dillo
[08:43] <tanath> m0u5e, yeah, anything i just want to do quick
[08:43] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: wouldn't it be nice, if they implemented architecture types into packaging?
[08:43] <tanath> m0u5e, firefox is kind of bogged down with all the crap in my profile. i use firefox when i'm gonna be on for a while
[08:43] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload:  instea dof just having intel / x86, you would have different deb packages for everything :D
[08:43] <xtknight> m0u5e, sarcasm?
[08:43] <xtknight> oh
[08:43] <m0u5e> tanath: yeah, i try not to install too many plugins
[08:43] <xtknight> the subarchitectures
[08:43] <cjae> any ktorrrent gurus out there
[08:43] <xtknight> lol
[08:43] <tanath> m0u5e, yeh, but i couldn't do without them :D
[08:43] <m0u5e> cjae: i used to use it... 6_6;
[08:44] <xtknight> using 386 pkgs vs "core 2 duo" packages for firefox would gain you about 0.1% anyway :)
[08:44] <m0u5e> tanath: what plugins you use :D
[08:44] <tanath> m0u5e, hmm.... lets see...
[08:44] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e: theres a version thats no longer maintained they was a recompiled version(s) of firefox called swiftfox
[08:44] <m0u5e> xtknight: thats cause core 2 duo is hardly used to it's full potential yet :D
[08:44] <xtknight> true
[08:44] <_r3> ive been having issues all day with my nvidia driver and getting a reasonable screen size , ive gotten the problem narrowed down to this Failed to load nvidia kernel module
[08:44] <deathblooms> Is the Screenlets Site still down. cause i cant install this
[08:44] <xtknight> firefox isnt multithreaded yet is it?   at least not for individual tabs
[08:44] <tanath> Neural_Overload, that explains why i'm not getting updates anymore :P
[08:44] <whyso> mplayer says error in initializing the selected video output device help?
[08:44] <m0u5e> xtknight: id ont think many apps are multithreaded yet :X
[08:45] <hackerboy> tanath: okay. well actually all i need to know lastly is after installing it. how do i make turn it into 3D or can u on feisty
[08:45] <tofaffy> I ran ./configure on camsource and it said I didn' thave jpeglib.h...how can I get it? It's not in the repos.
[08:45] <cjae> opps sorry
[08:45] <WaltzingAlong> _r3: ok so you need the kernel module, no? were you installing from the repositories?
[08:45] <tofaffy> !camsource
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camsource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <Neural_Overload> tanath: Of course
[08:45] <m0u5e> honestly though, i dont care about optimzation for firefox as much as i care for optimzation of the i815 intel integrated graphics driver :/
[08:45] <xtknight> m0u5e, i take it back.  firefox probably is multithreaded per tab or per window.  but one slow website on one slow tab, there's no mulithreading there to ease the load
[08:45] <Neural_Overload> tanath: Though, I wouldnt take my word for it as I cant remember where I saw that
[08:45] <_r3> ya i installed the -glx and -glx-legacy
[08:45] <tanath> Neural_Overload, k. i'll check. thx
[08:45] <xtknight> i still cant visit chinese-character sites without being lagged to death on a core 2 duo :P
[08:45] <Neural_Overload> tanath: Your welcome
[08:45] <dystopianray> m0u5e: you have an i815 card? it's too old for anyone to really bother with optimising it these days
[08:46] <m0u5e> xtknight: really it's already got multi-thread support?
[08:46] <m0u5e> dystopianray: DON'T say that! T__T
[08:46] <cjae> m0u5e, ever put torrents in wrong folder and then try to get them back in right folder
[08:46] <xtknight> m0u5e, i dont know
[08:46] <m0u5e> cjae: i solve that problem by putitng all my torrents in one folder :)
[08:46] <dystopianray> m0u5e: the i9xx series is all the rage now, i8xx is too old
[08:46] <m0u5e> dystopianray: i hear X3100 is quite nice too
[08:47] <xtknight> i'll stick with my 8800ultra sli :)
[08:47] <m0u5e> dystopianray: but yeah, im running on a 815/845 (i really don't remember, its one of them)
[08:47] <xtknight> jk i dont have that kind of money
[08:47] <m0u5e> i hated how Xp got bloated after a year, so i switched to linux
[08:47] <dystopianray> m0u5e: X3100 is i965GM
[08:47] <m0u5e> dystopianray: my bad :D
[08:47] <_r3> no one has any advice for me?
[08:47] <m0u5e> dystopianray: i guess X3100 is just the dev name?
[08:48] <XimDev> hi there
[08:48] <noodles12> how come sometimes I can see my windows networked folders and sometimes i can't? it's just random?
[08:48] <xtknight> _r3, try installing restricted modules
[08:48] <J_5> I have a simple problem, I think. My icons on the desktop background are huge. How do I fix this?
[08:48] <xtknight> _r3, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[08:48] <m0u5e> noodles12: that could be a windows / router issue :D
[08:48] <xtknight> noodles12, samba is flaky
[08:48] <_r3> doing now
[08:48] <cjae> m0u5e, someone put them in wrong folder before I selected use the same folder all the time
[08:48] <tanath> m0u5e, the ones i won't do without are: adblock plus, customizegoogle, download manager tweak, down them all, fasterfox, google browser sync, google gears, google notebook, google toolbar, greasemonkey, mouse gestures, noscript, openbook, resizeable form fields, smartsearch, tab mix plus
[08:48] <xtknight> best answer i can give you :\
[08:48] <m0u5e> noodles12: if you can see it once, im guessing its not your computer :)
[08:48] <dystopianray> m0u5e: hrrm i'm not sure exaclty how the naming works, i think X3100 is the name of the video hardware included with i965GM chipsets
[08:48] <cronic> Good evening
[08:48] <XimDev> I can't include ncurses in ubuntu!!
[08:48] <m0u5e> cjae: so is it just that you can't find it anymore?
[08:48] <_r3> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386 is already the newest version.
[08:48] <_r3> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:48] <Neural_Overload> tanath: It seems its not dead
[08:49] <m0u5e> cjae: if you have the original torrent file still, it'll be easy to put them back in the original folder :)
[08:49] <tanath> Neural_Overload, oh. thx
[08:49] <XimDev> urgent help, i can't compile a c program with ncurses in ubuntu
[08:49] <noodles12> xtknight: it's the built in samba functionality in nautilus, i havn't installed samba at all. is there a way to restart or reset nautilus' samba?
[08:49] <xtknight> noodles12, i dont think so
[08:49] <xtknight> noodles12, not nautilus' implementation specifically anyway
[08:49] <m0u5e> tanath: get rid of download manager tweak, faster fox, and adblock plus
[08:49] <cronic> Im using the latest version of Ubuntu with a default install off the website. Im trying to figure out which drivers to download for my DWL-520 (wireless network card). Im using amd64 version of Ubuntu.
[08:49] <xtknight> noodles12, mount it via smb/cifs it's a lot more reliable that way
[08:49] <m0u5e> tanath:  no script does it all :)
[08:49] <Neural_Overload> tanath: I just looked in the swiftfox forum. there was a post by the maintainer on the 6th of this month announcing the release of <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:49] <tanath> m0u5e, why?
[08:49] <m0u5e> tanath: and the built in adblock for firefox is actually pretty good
[08:49] <cronic> Wow this place is busy
[08:49] <noodles12> xtknight: not sure how to do that but i'll check it out
[08:50] <tanath> Neural_Overload, k. thx. i'll use FF 'till then
[08:50] <tanath> m0u5e, since when is there a built in one?
[08:50] <m0u5e> tanath: fasterfox doesn't really do much, it just ends up slowing down firefox even more
[08:50] <xtknight> hm i love fasterfox
[08:50] <cjae> m0u5e, moved them back there then it asks to recreate data and then I starts it again the wrong folder and from scratch no less
[08:50] <xtknight> i think swiftfox isnt much improvement though
[08:50] <cjae> m0u5e, -I +it
[08:50] <tanath> m0u5e, not so. i use it in rfc compatible mode though..
[08:50] <m0u5e> cjae: move it to your default folder, and just click "check file integrity"
[08:50] <XimDev> ubuntu help:  i can't compile a c program with ncurses in ubuntu
[08:51] <Neural_Overload> tanath: what I mean is, <IP_ADDRESS> is already out (It came out on the 6th of this month)
[08:51] <xtknight> XimDev, what's the erorr?
[08:51] <xtknight> XimDev, you might need ncurses dev packages.
[08:51] <tanath> Neural_Overload, woops, my bad
[08:51] <noodles12> xtknight: smb://ipaddress   ??
[08:51] <XimDev> a simple  No such file or directory
[08:51] <xtknight> noodles12, i think
[08:51] <m0u5e> tanath: well, the page cache thing it does is just stupid, firefox has the same feature built in
[08:51] <wers> how do I know my sound card model on ubuntu?
[08:51] <compwiz> XimDev, do you have ncurses development package installed?
[08:51] <noodles12> xtknight: yea that's it. u rock!
[08:51] <xtknight> noodles12, that's not how to mount it, if that's what you mean
[08:51] <Neural_Overload> tanath: Lol, no prob
[08:51] <tanath> Neural_Overload, my head is nodding from lack of sleep :D
[08:51] <XimDev> dev?
[08:51] <XimDev> lemme check
[08:51] <xtknight> XimDev, sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev
[08:51] <cronic> Does anyone know if I Have to download a 64bit driver for my network card to use ndiswrapper?
[08:51] <cronic> Im a bit confused with it
[08:52] <xtknight> hmm
[08:52] <m0u5e> tanath: spamming web pages won't necessarily get your web pages loaded faster, it'll just suck up bandwidth
[08:52] <tanath> m0u5e, fasterfox doesn't add ANY features. just tweaks config
[08:52] <Neural_Overload> tanath: Eh, same here actually. What time is it where you are?
[08:52] <noodles12> xtknight: it doesn't mount but i can see the folder. i think window's networked folder access is screwy... even on my brothers xp. i can't see it but if you phsyically type in the address into explorer it'll show up
[08:52] <wers> how do I know my sound card model?
[08:52] <xtknight> noodles12, ahh
[08:52] <m0u5e> tanath: yeah, but the default firefox configs are fine for most purposes :X
[08:52] <tanath> m0u5e, i set it to RFC compatible so i'm not hitting sites like crazy
[08:52] <xtknight> wers, sudo lshw -class sound
[08:52] <tanath> m0u5e, it just improves them a bit
[08:52] <m0u5e> tanath: ah,  yeah, that should be fine
[08:52] <tanath> Neural_Overload, 2:52am
[08:52] <nominal> cronic i dunno if you need to use 64bit, but i'd use try host ap drivers for that card
[08:52] <m0u5e> tanath: but i've noticed that when i have the plugin enabled, even though "thereotically" it shouldnt slow it down, it slows it down :/
[08:52] <cjae> m0u5e, didn't work
[08:53] <nominal> prism based right?
[08:53] <tanath> m0u5e, then do the tweaks yourself without it :P
[08:53] <Neural_Overload> tanath: thats quite a bit later than where I am, you must be east coast. Its 11:53PM here
[08:53] <xtknight> ya 2:53 east :(
[08:54] <Neural_Overload> California FTW!
[08:54] <tanath> Neural_Overload, i've been up since 8:11am my time. now it's 2:54am the next day
[08:54] <_r3> im hoping to have my desktop at 1024x768 before i hit the hay :\
[08:54] <_r3> almost 2 am
[08:54] <m0u5e> tanath: lol
[08:54] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Im approaching the next day
[08:54] <cronic> *burp*
[08:54] <cronic> 3am sucks
[08:54] <tanath> _r3, what's the prob?
[08:54] <m0u5e> tanath: i've found that if i tweak anything too much, i end up making it slower for certain web pages :(
[08:54] <_r3> Failed to load nvidia kernel module
[08:54] <howlingmadhowie> it's 9am here :)
[08:54] <m0u5e> cjae: did you get my chat msg?
[08:55] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e, fasterfox is a peice of junk IMHO
[08:55] <_r3> thats when i use the "nvidia" driver
[08:55] <xtknight> howlingmadhowie, eh? here=?
[08:55] <tanath> m0u5e, define tweaking too much :P if you exceed the specs, some sites may punish you for it
[08:55] <m0u5e> neural_overload: im not the one who uses it :D
[08:55] <_r3> i can use "nv" no problem but im locked to 800x600
[08:55] <cronic> Anyone familiar with wireless network cards, 64bit, and ndiswrapper? =)
[08:55] <dystopianray> cronic: which network card?
[08:55] <cronic> DWL-520 - Dlink
[08:55] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e, Oh :P
[08:55] <dystopianray> cronic: which wifi chip does it use?
[08:56] <cronic> That one I don't know. :(
[08:56] <cronic> I can google It I imagine...
[08:56] <dystopianray> cronic: look in lspci
[08:56] <nominal> i think it's prism
[08:56] <XimDev> thanks downloaded ncurses-dev and its working
[08:56] <howlingmadhowie> xtknight: um, there?
[08:56] <m0u5e> tanath: i just don't use it, firefox doesn't have its plugin feature done well,and ends up just sucking up memory and making it more bloated :(
[08:56] <tanath> _r3, hm. i haven't tried envy, but it may help. have you tried it?
[08:56] <_r3> yes
[08:56] <xtknight> howlingmadhowie, where is it 9am?  (3am here in US east)
[08:56] <_r3> errors also
[08:57] <howlingmadhowie> xtknight: cet
[08:57] <howlingmadhowie> _r3: you using gnome?
[08:57] <tanath> _r3, have you tried deleting the relevent section of the xorg.conf file and letting it autodetect and use that?
[08:57] <nephish> howlingmadhowie, where are you ?
[08:57] <xtknight> ah centrual european
[08:57] <_r3> it works if i use "nv" for the driver
[08:57] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e, what browser do you use mainly?
[08:57] <_r3> but then i cant change my res.
[08:57] <tanath> _r3, also, are you sure you have the drivers installed properly? no multiple versions installed and such?
[08:58] <tanath> _r3, is that what it chooses?
[08:58] <_r3> it uses nv
[08:58] <_r3> nvidia doesnt load get a kernal error
[08:58] <howlingmadhowie> nephish: in the little ol' european state of germany
[08:58] <_r3> but how do i tell if i have multiple drivers installed?
[08:58] <nephish> cool
[08:58] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: i use firefox, but i only use tabmixplus (which i wouldn't mind a replacement for) and noscript
[08:59] <tanath> _r3, sometimes when loading kernel modules and crap, you'll get a version mismatch error
[08:59] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e, I use.... too many plugins
[08:59] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: i use epiphany for small web browsing, and fasterfox for sites that i hit often
[08:59] <dystopianray> cronic: are there 64-bit windows drivers available for your card?
[08:59] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: in my experience no script and tabsmixplus is all i need :D
[08:59] <_r3> well something is mismatching
[08:59] <Anarch> How do I find what package contains some executable?
[08:59] <m0u5e> cjae: you still there? :X
[09:00] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: what do you use?
[09:00] <tanath> _r3, where exactly are you getting the error?
[09:00] <Neural_Overload> Tabmixplus, Noscript, Passwordmaker, Bugmenot
[09:00] <howlingmadhowie> _r3: a few questions: you've probably already done this, but it would help me if you pasted on pastebin: lshw, /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the kernel error you get when you modprobe the nvidia module
[09:00] <_r3> sec
[09:00] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e,  Those are the 4 I have installed
[09:00] <godlygeek> so, in the interest of learning to do things the right way - If i want to remove a package (say, xscreensaver) and NOT remove xubuntu-desktop (which depends it), what are my options?  :)
[09:01] <nominal> godlygeek, i'd use synaptic package manager :)
[09:01] <tanath> bloody hell! sleep would be nice, but my fire alarm keeps going off for 2 seconds every minute
[09:01] <xtknight> Anarch, if the pkg/exec is already installed, "dpkg -S /file"  if not, "apt-file search /file"
[09:01] <godlygeek> nominal: i don't think that helps?  wouldn't synaptic also not let me do that, since it would be breaking xubuntu-desktop?
[09:02] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: it doesnt seem like too much :D
[09:02] <dystopianray> tanath: is there a fire?
[09:02] <howlingmadhowie> _r3: also, if you're using gnome, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400035
[09:02] <tanath> dystopianray, not that i know of
[09:02] <xtknight> Anarch, for apt-file you have to install it and do "sudo apt-file update" before doing any searches.  on alternative to apt-file search is http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:02] <Anarch> xtknight: Thanks, trying both
[09:02] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: only reason i dont have a password maker is cause it'd be a pain to move from computer to computer
[09:02] <godlygeek> nominal: i mean, it would try to get me to remove xubuntu-desktop, which i certainly don't want to do since that does god-awful things to dist-upgrades.  :)
[09:02] <tanath> dystopianray, if there were, i'd think it would stay on
[09:03] <_r3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33309/plain/
[09:03] <tanath> xtknight, apt-get?
[09:03] <nominal> godlygeek, just have to get rid of the screensaver and can't just turn it off or something? ;))
[09:03] <syte> I'm new to ubuntu, so i wondering if there are any books that are extremely good for learning linux?
[09:03] <xtknight> tanath, ?
[09:03] <cronic> dystopianray - looks like Atheros Communications
[09:03] <godlygeek> nominal: i find getting rid of packages to be easier than figuring out how to turn them off.  :)
[09:03] <dystopianray> cronic: atheros should 'just work'
[09:03] <tanath> xtknight, you wrote apt-file... don't you mean apt-get?
[09:03] <xtknight> tanath, nope
[09:03] <dystopianray> cronic: is it a pci or pcmcia card?
[09:03] <xtknight> tanath, not for searching within pkgs
[09:03] <_r3> modprobe failed
[09:03] <_r3> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[09:03] <cronic> it shows up as unknown device - after it says ethernet controller
[09:03] <cronic> pci
[09:04] <tanath> xtknight, interesting... ah, i see
[09:04] <xtknight> tanath, apt-cache search will search descriptions of pkgs also
[09:04] <Radio> thanks xtknight for earlier
[09:04] <m0u5e> what does apt-file do? its under universe...
[09:04] <Radio> i got ntfs-3g to work
[09:04] <tanath> xtknight, knew that one
[09:04] <cronic> I will try it again dystopianray
[09:04] <cronic> brb
[09:04] <xtknight> Radio, ah cool
[09:04] <Radio> just curious though
[09:04] <dystopianray> cronic: run this: sudo update-pciids
[09:04] <dystopianray> cronic: then look at lspci again
[09:04] <Radio> i dont need a password or anything to access my windows files?
[09:04] <m0u5e> radio: theres an easy to use manager for ntfs-3g in case you haven't found it yet :D
[09:04] <xtknight> Radio, depends how the windows machine is configured
[09:04] <nominal> godlygeek, perhaps you can remove it from synaptic, and if it tries to remove the desktop, you can simply re-select it
[09:05] <m0u5e> radio:  you need an administrator account and password
[09:05] <xtknight> Radio, if you mean locally, no.  permissions are completely ignored afaik
[09:05] <godlygeek> nominal: though, whatever.  i'll just stop using gdm and start my sessions with startx.
[09:05] <Juno> so what shoudl I use for playing music?
[09:05] <ParaDoX34690> would someone that is familiar with how to install updated video drivers be able to give me some instruction as to how to proceed?
[09:05] <Radio> hrmm
[09:05] <m0u5e> radio: you're talking about accessing windows root shares right?
[09:05] <xtknight> You have searched for nvidia.ko in dapper, architecture i386.
[09:05] <xtknight> Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[09:05] <godlygeek> nominal: reselecting it would reinstall xscreensaver.
[09:05] <xtknight> where is the nvidia driver on dapper?
[09:05] <tanath> anyone know what would cause problems with burning discs besides dust?
[09:05] <xtknight> tanath, too high of a speed
[09:05] <godlygeek> nominal: i could use dpkg -r --force-depends, but that's probably not a good idea...
[09:05] <Radio> yea
[09:05] <tanath> xtknight, or that
[09:05] <xtknight> tanath, hmm..sketchy media?
[09:05] <nominal> godlygeek, well, i'm sure theres a way.. beyond me tho
[09:06] <tanath> xtknight, or that, lol
[09:06] <xtknight> :P
[09:06] <tanath> xtknight, http://pastebin.com/d5fa58672
[09:06] <Radio> is there a way to set it up so that i need a password for local access?
[09:06] <adam7> godlygeek, well, i'm sure there's a way.. beyond me tho
[09:06] <godlygeek> nominal: *shrug*, i'll just switch away from using GDM.  I always do.
[09:06] <m0u5e> godlygeek: theres a way to break a package dep, i just dont remember how... :X
[09:06] <m0u5e> radio: you always need the password, unless you ask your computer to save it for you :X
[09:06] <tanath> m0u5e, there's more than one :P
[09:06] <xtknight> Radio, hmm i dont know about that.  there's a way to do everything if you have a few weeks of coding to spare :P
[09:06] <m0u5e> tanath: xD
[09:06] <tanath> m0u5e, there's the intentional, and the many accidental ones :P
[09:07] <m0u5e> tanath: XD XD
[09:07] <godlygeek> Radio: a password for local access to what?
[09:07] <Radio>  my windows partition
[09:07] <m0u5e> tanath: lol i learn whatever i need to learn, i haven't gotton there yet, so i haven't needed (or have gotton around) break package dependancies :D
[09:07] <m0u5e> radio: oh wait, its a partition? :X
[09:07] <howlingmadhowie> sorry, am back now. my flatmate just broke the sink
[09:07] <Radio> yea
[09:07] <xtknight> tanath, ##Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
[09:07] <m0u5e> radio: sorry i thought it was a network mount haha
[09:07] <xtknight> hm
[09:07] <m0u5e> radio : yeah, you dont need a password
[09:07] <Radio> :/
[09:08] <m0u5e> radio: you can encrypt it though
[09:08] <tanath> m0u5e, yeh, i've pretty much been learning what i need to learn... unfortunately i've had to fix more than a couple things...
[09:08] <cronic> dystopianray what is the hardware detection program in ubuntu?
[09:08] <Radio> oh... hmmm
[09:08] <dystopianray> cronic: lspci
[09:08] <m0u5e> tanath: lol sometimes i wish my major was computer science / comp engineering..., except i then remember that i don't wanna live ina cubicle :X
[09:08] <tanath> xtknight, yeh, personally i like the 'error... no error' part xD
[09:08] <xtknight> tanath, :P
[09:08] <cronic> IIRC there was something that would auto configure newly added devices
[09:08] <tanath> m0u5e, lol :)
[09:08] <howlingmadhowie> _r3: xorg.conf looks okay, provided your monitor isn't lying to your graphics card about the resolutions it supports
[09:08] <Radio> doesnt seem so secure being able to access windows with ease :/
[09:08] <xtknight> tanath, "please properly read the message above" lol
[09:08] <tanath> m0u5e, i'm trying to figure out what to take
[09:08] <cronic> lspci still shows unknown device
[09:09] <tanath> xtknight, yeh, that was good too :P
[09:09] <dystopianray> cronic: sudo update-pciids
[09:09] <godlygeek> Radio: you mean, make windows require a password to boot into?
[09:09] <m0u5e> tanath: do whatever you enjoy doing :D
[09:09] <tanath> m0u5e, uh... not working? :P
[09:09] <godlygeek> Radio: Or, require a password for accessing the windows partition from linux?
[09:09] <Radio> the 2nd
[09:09] <howlingmadhowie> oh, he's gone :(
[09:09] <m0u5e> tanath: what are you planning on doing?
[09:09] <tanath> m0u5e, i have lots of interests, but i don't know what i want to do with my life
[09:09] <m0u5e> tannath: or what are you doing now? :)
[09:09] <tanath> m0u5e, prolly some sort of engineering degree...
[09:09] <m0u5e> tannath: play around, try getting a job in that area of interest
[09:09] <xtknight> tanath, dma maybe could be an issue, or concurrent accesses to other drives.  bad controller, bad cd drive, bad iso, bad burning program, bad memory, bad cpu, i think i covered all the bases ;)
[09:09] <godlygeek> Radio: hm.  just a thought, but couldn't you make an entry for it in /etc/fstab with 'nouser' in the line, so that only root can mount it?
[09:09] <tanath> m0u5e, working @ a dead-end job in a factory. wasting away my brain cells
[09:10] <godlygeek> Radio: noauto, too, i suppose.
[09:10] <cronic> pciids requres a network connection
[09:10] <m0u5e> tanath: how bout school organizations / projects?
[09:10] <cronic> I only have wireless
[09:10] <Radio> noauto?
[09:10] <tanath> xtknight, bah. :P
[09:10] <m0u5e> tanath: i know!, move to silicon valley xD
[09:10] <tanath> m0u5e, hm?
[09:10] <tanath> m0u5e, lol, i prefer canada, thx :)
[09:10] <godlygeek> Radio: don't allow it to be mounted by a mount -a, like the one executed by init when the system is booting.
[09:10] <m0u5e> tanath: and go to starbucks everyday until by chance, you one day happen upon steve jobs
[09:10] <godlygeek> Radio: otherwise, it would automatically get mounted as root anyway.
[09:11] <xtknight> lol
[09:11] <tanath> xtknight, k3b is a good app, so not likely that. memory & cpu should be good...
[09:11] <cronic> dystopianray - any suggestions?
[09:11] <godlygeek> Radio: but, that way, you have access to the drive using your root password only, but you have to sudo mount it every time you wanna do something.
[09:11] <m0u5e> tanath: then sit down, and have a cup of coffeewith him, and day after day explain your plight, and hopefully he'll recommend you to some other insanely rich / prestigious member of the engineering community
[09:11] <tanath> m0u5e, pfft. i'd rather be the next woz... or google founder, rather :P
[09:11] <m0u5e> tanath: haha its a process, insert steve jobs name for anything else
[09:11] <Radio> ok thx
[09:11] <godlygeek> Radio: if you don't plan on using it often and are comfortable in a terminal, that's what i'd do.
[09:11] <tanath> m0u5e, i seriously need to figure out what i want to do
[09:11] <m0u5e> tanath: linus torvalds?
[09:12] <m0u5e> tanath: though i hear he can have quite the temper 6_6;
[09:12] <xtknight> geeks all have tempers.  it's an accumulated frustration from years of messing with linux commands
[09:12] <howlingmadhowie> tanath: i don't think he's quite in theo de raadt's category. i think he's just finish
[09:12] <dystopianray> cronic: run update-pciids on another computer, copy /usr/share/misc/pci.ids over to the computer with internet
[09:12] <m0u5e> xtknight: haha i dont believe that :D
[09:13] <tanath> howlingmadhowie, theo doesn't come off very well with people though... hmm... sounds familiar :P
[09:13] <cronic> lol that ubuntu box is my only linux machine.
[09:13] <howlingmadhowie> xtknight: i think it happens quite suddenly the first time you need to use the ftp command line client on windows xp
[09:13] <m0u5e> xtknight: if you let yourself be carried away by anger every time you have such a situation, you'll quickly fall into the category of poor anger management :/
[09:13] <tanath> lol
[09:13] <xtknight> oh i dont get angry because i know everything already :D
[09:13] <godlygeek> xtknight: i only find myself having temper problems when forced to use windows.  :-p
[09:14] <tanath> i started a list of some of the things i'm interested in studying...
[09:14] <xtknight> (not true btw)
[09:14] <m0u5e> xtknight: omgzlol torrentz plz!
[09:14] <howlingmadhowie> m0u5e: it's a medical condition known to the experts as "balmeritis"
[09:14] <dystopianray> cronic: download this: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids
[09:14] <m0u5e> howlingmadhowie: LOL
[09:14] <xtknight> hah
[09:14] <dystopianray> cronic: copy to /usr/share/misc/pci.ids on the ubuntu machine
[09:14] <tanath> philosophy, psychology, business, game theory, game design, systems analysis & design (?), physics (?)
[09:14] <howlingmadhowie> yo dissection dude! wassup man?
[09:14] <cronic> THank you dystopianray
[09:15] <m0u5e> bill gatetitis
[09:15] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Just woke up. I passed out for 3 hours ago.
[09:15] <ParaDoX34690> is there a way that I can shut down x so that I can install a new video driver?
[09:15] <xtknight> ParaDoX34690, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:15] <dystopianray> ParaDoX34690: don't need to shut down X to install a new driver
[09:15] <godlygeek> ParaDoX34690: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:15] <dystopianray> ParaDoX34690: install the drive then restart X
[09:15] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: ah, the most relaxing type of sleep: that caused by complete and utter exhaustion
[09:15] <xtknight> hehe
[09:15] <m0u5e> philosophy and psychology would take a while :(
[09:15] <tanath> ParaDoX34690, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart it for you
[09:16] <m0u5e> if your going into psyc, you have a wide selection of jobs after undergrad
[09:16] <ParaDoX34690> okay, thanks guys! :)
[09:16] <tanath> ParaDoX34690, though it'll kill apps using the x server at the time
[09:16] <godlygeek> ParaDoX34690: ctrl+alt+backspace is probably best.  :)
[09:16] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Thats the kind of sleep I usually get everyday (or once in two days)
[09:16] <m0u5e> tanath: same with philosophy
[09:16] <m0u5e> anyone know how to enter my "last tabbed" name into xchat-gnome?
[09:16] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: you probably just play world of warcraft too much :)
[09:16] <tanath> m0u5e, those are two i'd really like to study. i intend to take them as electives if i can
[09:16] <ParaDoX34690> eh, no biggie.
[09:16] <m0u5e> its frustrating that i have to retype part of the name all the time -__-;
[09:16] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Nah I don't play games
[09:17] <ParaDoX34690> but thanks, and I'll do the ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:17] <m0u5e> tanath: psyc pretty much requires a bach at least
[09:17] <tanath> m0u5e, dunno if you can do that
[09:17] <Radio> thx for the help
[09:17] <Radio> brb
[09:17] <m0u5e> if you're planning on going clinical / counseling
[09:17] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Very rarely. The last time I played a game was NFS Most Wanted. That was last year
[09:17] <m0u5e> dissection: the last time i played a game was a few days ago where i beat zelda:TP :D
[09:17] <tanath> m0u5e, nope. just something i'm interested in learning
[09:17] <Mulder> how do you get the cube thingee with ubuntu desktop effects
[09:17] <xtknight> !effects | Mulder
[09:17] <ubotu> Mulder: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[09:18] <Mulder> ah ta
[09:18] <tanath> m0u5e, maybe i'll get multiple degrees. i'd have to to study everything i wanted..
[09:18] <m0u5e> tanath: good luck :D
[09:18] <tanath> m0u5e, but for starters, i need to pick 1...
[09:18] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: same here. i liberated a copy of neverwinter nights from the biotech servers recently, but i've only played it once
[09:18] <m0u5e> god, i hope they come out with a good effects manager for compiz-fusion soon...
[09:18] <Axioo> When is the next LTS version going to be released? Under what name / code?
[09:18] <dissection> m0u5e: Not sure who is Zelda :O
[09:18] <tanath> m0u5e, i might need it. i'm in a difficult situation
[09:18] <xtknight> Axioo, probably after gutsy
[09:18] <m0u5e> dissection: O_O;
[09:19] <cronic> ok dystopianray i have copied that file into /usr/share/misc/pci.ids
[09:19] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: I'll try out some new games though, after I get my new laptop. I'm buying it on Monday.
[09:19] <cronic> What can I do now?
[09:19] <dystopianray> cronic: now run lspci again
[09:19] <cronic> I did
[09:19] <tanath> m0u5e, effects manager?
[09:19] <cronic> still says unknown device
[09:19] <dystopianray> cronic: hrrm ok, must be a very new or very obscure device
[09:19] <m0u5e> tanath: whatever its called, compiz has one and beryl has one... its an easy to use gui manager :D
[09:19] <cronic> Specifically it says....
[09:19] <dissection> Hopefully I won't have any trouble getting Ubuntu to work on it like its working on my desktop ;]
[09:19] <tanath> m0u5e, compizconfig settings manager is good
[09:19] <dystopianray> cronic: do you have a 64-bit windows driver for it?
[09:19] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: cool :) what's it going to be? (the new laptop)
[09:19] <m0u5e> tanath: does it work for compiz-fusion? O_O
[09:19] <cronic> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 0003 (rev a1)
[09:20] <cronic> No, but I think I can download one.
[09:20] <tanath> m0u5e, that's what i use
[09:20] <cronic> Just needed to know which driver to use
[09:20] <dystopianray> cronic: is it an 802.11n card?
[09:20] <cronic> no
[09:20] <cronic> g
[09:20] <tanath> m0u5e, hell, i thought that was what it was for
[09:20] <dystopianray> cronic: hrrm, well atheros usually 'just work'
[09:20] <cronic> It's not a new card.
[09:20] <xtknight> you can get venID:devID thru lspci -n and look it up online
[09:20] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Sony Vaio AR590E. Dualcore, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD (2 X 160GB RAID0), 1GB Geforce, 17" screen (1920 x 1200), blu-ray writer
[09:20] <Axioo> xtknight, and when is gutsy released?
[09:20] <dystopianray> cronic: but if you're hoping to use ndiswrapper, then you need a 64-bit windows driver, or you're out of luck
[09:20] <m0u5e> tanath: o_o
[09:20] <cronic> The problem is, it was not installed when I installed the system.
[09:20] <xtknight> !gutsy  |Axioo
[09:20] <ubotu> Axioo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:20] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: oops, sony and linux...
[09:20] <m0u5e> tanath: lol now to check if getting it to work with xubuntu is easy or not :X
[09:20] <cronic> Maybe a reboot will fix it lol
[09:21] <cronic> who knows...
[09:21] <killroy_2> I'm running kubuntu feisty and fo some reason although I can burn a dvd, my system won't read them - they simply show up as blank.  Any ideais?
[09:21] <cronic> brb
[09:21] <dystopianray> cronic: why would that fix it?
[09:21] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Bad combination?
[09:21] <m0u5e> anyone know a good drop down terminal that works well with XUBUNTU? :(
[09:21] <tanath> m0u5e, good luck :P
[09:21] <Walls7> What is the command, if i want to edit the start up page that asks which OS i want to use? i want to re order them
[09:21] <cronic> I have no idea.
[09:21] <cronic> Im tired and frustrated.
[09:21] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: the acpi settings have been known to cause ruptures in the space-time continuum
[09:21] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: I tried Linux on my other Sony Laptop and it worked fine. I didn't get the sound working.. But thats cause I didn't know back then how to get it to work
[09:21] <n2diy_> Will the live Ubuntu CD play on a box with no hard drive?
[09:21] <dystopianray> n2diy_: yes
[09:21] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: well, maybe everything will work okay then :)
[09:21] <dissection> n2diy_: Yes it should
[09:22] <m0u5e> howlingmadhowie: hey, i hear the ps3 works well :D
[09:22] <dystopianray> cronic: well you need a 64-bit windows driver ot use ndiswrapper anyway
[09:22] <n2diy_> dystopianray: cool, thanks.
[09:22] <tanath> m0u5e, i want my 'beryl-manager' back though
[09:22] <compwiz> adamorjames are you still there?
[09:22] <cronic> Yes that I know, but which windows 64 bit driver
[09:22] <n2diy_> dissection: thanks.
[09:22] <cronic> because XP 64 is non-existant
[09:22] <dystopianray> cronic: the one for your card
[09:22] <killroy_2> tanath: dump beryl and move to compiz-fusion
[09:22] <m0u5e> tanath: beryl is discontinued :(
[09:22] <cronic> they have a vista 64 driver
[09:22] <tanath> killroy_2, already have
[09:22] <cronic> but I do not know if it will work with ndis
[09:22] <m0u5e> tanath: where is the config manager you speak of...
[09:22] <tanath> m0u5e, i know :P
[09:22] <dystopianray> cronic: try it, but I doubt it'll work with ndiswrapper
[09:22] <cronic> fail.
[09:22] <ParaDoX34690> Hey all, please forgive my stupidity, but what was that command to shut down x again?
[09:22] <tanath> m0u5e, i use trevinos repos
[09:22] <xtknight> ParaDoX34690, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:23] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Though the only thing I'm unsure about, is the laptop's video card. My previous laptop had ATI. This one has GeForce.
[09:23] <killroy_2> tanath: you know about fusion-icon?
[09:23] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: and my flatmate has linux on his vaio and it works fine
[09:23] <xtknight> cronic, is there an xp32 driver for it?  and there's no xp64?
[09:23] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: geforce is actually usually better than ati
[09:23] <tanath> m0u5e, compiz-fusion w/  compizconfig settings manager
[09:23] <tanath> killroy_2, aparently not :P
[09:23] <xtknight> cronic, what about windows server 64 or something?
[09:23] <Walls7> m0u5e: what is the command if i want to edit my start up page that asks which OS i want to use, so i can re order tham?
[09:23] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: you can use /etc/init.d/kdm stop (or gdm)
[09:23] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Yeah thats what I've come to understand after hanging out here.
[09:23] <m0u5e> tanath: trevinos repos?
[09:23] <m0u5e> walls7: not sure, its something to do with grub :X
[09:23] <killroy_2> tanath: go to #compiz-fusion and type !fusion-icon
[09:23] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: there are worse places to hang out :)
[09:24] <tanath> killroy_2, doesn't appear in my repos
[09:24] <ParaDoX34690> okay... thanks, i'ma try not to be stupid this time :)
[09:24] <Walls7> someone gave it to me earlier but i forgot =/
[09:24] <tanath> m0u5e, :O
[09:24] <dystopianray> cronic: reinstall with 32-bit ubuntu and use the regular xp driver
[09:24] <m0u5e> Anyone know how to change the boot order for OS in grub?
[09:24] <shayne_> i get these "spurious completion" messages on feisty and gutsy ... what do they mean? http://pastebin.com/m4a701306
[09:24] <tanath> m0u5e, latests releases
[09:24] <xtknight> Walls7, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst but it might get reordered every time there's a kernel update
[09:24] <killroy_2> tanath: you need to download it eithe from git or you can dl and deb and install it
[09:24] <tanath> m0u5e, google it
[09:24] <Walls7> xtknight: thanks
[09:24] <m0u5e> tanath: i already am :D
[09:24] <randoman> hey guys, besides build-essintials, what packages would you recommend to install to compile progreams?
[09:24] <tanath> m0u5e, gets a little unstable at times, so when you hit a stable update, stick with it for a while
[09:24] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: I'm sure there is ;]
[09:24] <Walls7> also what is the command if i want to enter a screen resolution myself?
[09:25] <m0u5e> tanath: haha o_O?
[09:25] <tanath> killroy_2, why isn't it in the repos already?
[09:25] <tanath> m0u5e, well, it's updated almost daily
[09:25] <killroy_2> tanath: CF is still alpha
[09:25] <xtknight> Walls7, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   , or to set one that already exists, "xrandr -q" and go from there
[09:25] <tanath> m0u5e, what he said
[09:25] <tanath> killroy_2, yeh, but it's not in trevino's repos either
[09:25] <killroy_2> tanath: and fusion-icon deb was only just built
[09:25] <tanath> killroy_2, ah
[09:25] <xtknight> compiz fusion has an unoff. repo
[09:25] <ParaDoX34690> okay, well, I'm told that it's "stopping gnome display manager", but when I go to run the nvidia installer, it tells me that I'm still running it... am I missing something here?
[09:25] <killroy_2> tanath: nope.
[09:25] <tanath> killroy_2, prolly be there soon then
[09:25] <randoman> hey guys, besides build-essintials, what packages would you recommend to install to compile progreams?
[09:26] <randoman> anyone?
[09:26] <compwiz> randoman, it depends on the package you are building
[09:26] <compwiz> build-essential is enough for basic stuff
[09:26] <randoman> say kernel?
[09:26] <cronic> I thought there was a graphical way to "detect" new hardware in ubuntu
[09:26] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: ps for gdm and kill the task?
[09:26] <tanath> randoman, libraries. lots of 'em
[09:26] <compwiz> randoman, all packages ending in -dev
[09:26] <cronic> /sigh
[09:26] <tanath> randoman, blahblah-ev
[09:26] <tanath> randoman, blahblah-dev
[09:26] <dystopianray> cronic: if there is, it'd rely on lspci
[09:26] <randoman> for sure
[09:26] <ParaDoX34690> killroy_2: ps?? pardon?
[09:26] <dystopianray> cronic: i'd recommend using 32-bit ubuntu
[09:26] <compwiz> randoman, but I would install them as you need them otherwise you end up wit habout 100000 packages :D
[09:27] <m0u5e> tanath: gah... well ill keep it in mind, no point in trying it on my i815 though :(
[09:27] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: My vnstat's today's download is showing up as 800MB. I'm waiting for it to reach close to 1000MB to see if it'll erroneously inflate to 4000MB again like it did the past two days. I'll know in the next two hours.
[09:27] <Axioo> xtknight: My friend told me to wait for the next 7.10 (Gutsy), he said it is a LTS version, so it is not true?
[09:27] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: as in "ps aux | grep gdm"
[09:27] <xtknight> Axioo, gutsy is not LTS
[09:27] <jonathan_> no
[09:27] <cronic> Well the reason I went with 64bit, was because I need tohave a VM setup with 64bit windows 2003