[00:04] <_underground_> buen dia con todos
[00:08] <doleyb> !es | underground
[00:15] <_underground_> como puedo registrar mi nick en este servidor?
[00:17] <doleyb> _underground_: /msg NickServ help
[00:18] <asobi> !mount
[00:21] <joshjtl> hey folks, can anyone recommend a site to make forms on?
[00:23] <fungos> ok, this is getting very irritating.. my Applications menu contents just got vanished
[00:25] <fungos> is there a way to "rebuild" this menu?
[00:28] <fungos> ok thank you, going back to windows until 9.10
[00:30] <supernix> I am trying to install ubuntu but cant get past the partion stage
[00:30] <supernix> it just shows one option to use the entire drive and trying to do a manual partion does not give any options to resize the existing partitions
[00:31] <khristian> hi peoples
[00:32] <khristian> algun br aki???
[00:33] <_underground_> doleyb: muchas gracias, me ha servido bastante, y pude encontrar mas info en: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ChileanTeam/Reuniones/IrcComandos
[00:33] <eraserhead> hi, after some ours my wireless network disconnects automatically
[00:34] <eraserhead> why ?
[00:34] <_underground_> la pena q me da, es no poder entender muy bien el inglés :(   p' poder conversar con todos
[00:34] <eraserhead> _underground_: compra un libro e aprende
[00:35] <doleyb> !br
[00:35] <_underground_> eso haré  xD
[00:51] <joshua24> hello al
[00:51] <joshua24> *all*
[00:52] <jose__> need help
[00:52] <joshua24> fire away
[00:53] <jose__> is thare a way that i can sinc. my wm cel phone un ubuntu
[00:53] <braden_> Has anyone here got linux guest os vmware-tools 7.8.5 to compile on kernel 2.6.28?
[00:53] <joshua24> IDK on that. have u tried Net or Wiki or Forum, jose__?
[00:54] <eraserhead> kubuntu shuts down the monitor after a while
[00:54] <jose__> not yet
[00:54] <joshua24> eraserhead: check kde system settings. its a powersave thing
[00:54] <joshua24> jose__: do that then
[00:54] <joshua24> jose__: cuz IDK
[00:55] <joshua24> !
[00:55] <jose__> ok
[00:55] <eraserhead> joshua24: no, it is not a powersave thing
[00:55] <jose__> thanks
[00:55] <joshua24> eraserhead: yes it has to be........ lol
[00:55] <eraserhead> it isnt, joshua24
[00:55] <_underground_> bye, thanks
[00:55] <jose__> how can i do the 3d using kubuntu
[00:55] <joshua24> k then
[00:56] <joshua24> jose__: get restricted drivers. after that it is autoenables desktop effects
[00:59] <tajnapolska_> cześć, jest tu kto?
[01:07] <bokey> does anyone know which package includes the calendar plasmoid?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> bokey: try add widgets
[01:09] <bokey> BluesKaj: i didn't ask that. but thanks
[01:16] <pteague> how do i force kate to only have the 1 window open?
[01:18] <bopferman> Hello, I have recently upgraded to 9.04 and I nolonger have 3d acceleration.  I have an intel 82865G integrated video card.  any ideas?
[01:19] <BluesKaj> !intel
[01:19] <bopferman> haha
[01:19] <BluesKaj> !info intel
[01:20] <bopferman> !intel
[01:20] <thekiller> hello there
[01:20] <thekiller> please i am new with ubuntu and i need some help if possible
[01:21] <thekiller> i dont have any sound
[01:22] <thekiller> hum..no one to help?
[01:25] <faileas> thekiller: don't ask to ask. Ask!
[01:32] <jimmy51_home> I've gotta say.... wow
[01:33] <jimmy51_home> i initiated the upgrade before i went to bed last night wondering why less than fun nvidia driver mess i'd be greeted with in the morning (like 8.10 gave me).
[01:33] <jimmy51_home> the upgrade ran perfectly
[01:33] <jimmy51_home> and everything. just. works.
[01:33] <jimmy51_home> it's more responsive, looks better, and works great
[01:33] <jimmy51_home> good job to everyone!
[01:40] <Danstg> does anyone know of any known issues between ubuntu and Sound Blast cards?
[01:40] <Danstg> i can use my onboard for for the life of me i cant get my soundcard to work
[01:40] <wolfmanz> where does kde 4.2 keep its desktop backgrounds?
[01:42] <BluesKaj> Danstg, check creative.com for linux drivers
[01:53] <Danstg> i dont get it, i've reinstalled my alsa drivers, disabled my onboard in my bios, still cant get it to work
[01:53] <Danstg> i keep getting this error whenever i try to test some of the choices in sound prefrences
[01:53] <Danstg> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open audio device for playback.
[01:53] <doleyb> wolfmanz: /usr/share/wallpapers
[01:57] <khristian> boa noite pessoal
[01:58] <doleyb> I upgraded to jaunty, and now have silly sound effects when clicking buttons in gtk programs (like gimp, gedit, gnometris, firefox).  But if I log into a gnome session that doesn't happen.  How can I stop it in a kde session?
[02:00] <Viking667> I know I'm going to sound dumb here, but I've got an updating issue from Intrepid to Jaunty.
[02:01] <Viking667> User clicks on "Update" icon in panel, it pops up a box saying new distro is available. User elects to upgrade, box goes away, now the icon's not in the system tray either.
[02:01] <Viking667> What do I need to type in a terminal to kick off this s.o.b?
[02:02] <doleyb> Viking667: update-notifier-kde -u
[02:02] <Viking667> Right. I'll try that out. Thank you.
[02:03] <Viking667> yay. Thank you. Seems to work now.
[02:03] <ori> hi guys
[02:04]  * Viking667 waves a jaunty goodbye <grin>
[02:04] <Viking667> well, hello, rather than goodbye.
[02:05] <ori> hey guys ubuntu saved my life, my computer crashed after a strong virus labeled as daemoon tools and i can use ubuntu boot
[02:05] <gonzalo> hola
[02:06] <DurtDiggler> does dd give you any sort of indication that it's working and not just frozen
[02:13] <replman> Hi! I have installed kubuntu 9.04. Everything works fine till i installed thunderbird. The font there looks very small and unreadable. In 8.10 i changed the font using "Use my KDE Fonts " or something like that...
[02:15] <Wizzleby> Hi, I've been trying to get my 9.04 install with nvidia graphics drivers to not select 1600x1200 at every start of X. I tried the info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution but encountered issues (xrandr would exit without changing res or producing an error)
[02:17] <Wizzleby> From looking at my Xorg.0.log, I notice a part here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158934/ which indicates the nvidia driver is auto-selecting 1600x1200 because no other mode is requested.
[02:18] <Wizzleby> So my question I guess is, how tor equest another mode? Sorry for lengthy explanation.
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Wizzleby, it could be that X is not seeing the Monitor driver and is using a compromise resolution to try to make the graphics work.
[02:26] <Wizzleby> That is possible, however also when I added  stanza with the information to xorg.conf, the nvidia driver still did its auto-mode thing
[02:28] <Wizzleby> Currently, it is true that it does not detect the monitor at first, although the nvidia driver detects it.
[02:30] <Wizzleby> here is the full log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158940/. at line 22/23 we see X fail to detect the monitor/ at line 194, the nvidia driver detects it, and then at 203 'No modes were requested;..)
[02:30]  * Wizzleby replaces that ) with a '
[02:32] <jiger> does anyone know how to upgrade from Intrepid directly to Jaunty Remix without need to install 4.2 pckages?
[02:33] <Viking667> Got a question. Where the heck do I get ncftp from??
[02:33] <Viking667> It doesn't seem to be in the repo for Intrepid.
[02:34] <Xero> hey guys how do i get dvds to play on my linux
[02:34] <Xero> i typed $ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[02:34] <bopferman> I just updated to 9.04 and I cant play videos.  I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/158946/
[02:34] <jiger> somebody in the room to answer upgrading to Jaunty questions or ll still on Intrepid?
[02:34] <Xero> $ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[02:35] <Viking667> heh. I'm trying to upgrade to it...
[02:35] <Xero> how do i get dvd to play
[02:35] <Xero> libdvdread3 cant be found
[02:35] <gjl> Jaunty
[02:35] <jiger>  does anyone know how to upgrade from Intrepid directly to Jaunty Remix without need to install 4.2 packages?
[02:37] <jiger> looks like noone knows how to upgrade to Jaunty Remix. Ah well sleep is important to them
[02:50] <slew> hello, i just installed kubuntu 9.04 and i've got an hp dv5 but cant get the wireless to work.
[02:51] <slew> i have an atheros wireless card
[02:52] <slew> should i ask my questions in ubuntu?
[03:04] <Kasm279> i cant get ANY of the settings in display settings to work
[03:04] <Kasm279> they just do nothing D:
[03:05] <Kasm279> hello?
[03:06] <Wizzleby> Kasm279: Hi. I'm not sure I know how to help. what kind of graphics hardware are you using
[03:06] <Kasm279> ATi 345M
[03:08] <Wizzleby> ok, and do you have the ati restricted drivers installed for it?
[03:08] <Kasm279> no, where do i find them?
[03:08] <Wizzleby> what version of kubuntu are you running?
[03:08] <Kasm279> 8.10
[03:09] <Kasm279> (currently im running Xfce under it)
[03:09] <pulaski> hello,  I'm looking for a kubuntu internet fax software package.  Aparently nothing turns up in adept. Can anyone suggest a package that lets me send faxes over the internet?
[03:09] <Wizzleby> ok 8.10, so KDE4 right?
[03:09] <Wizzleby> oh xcfe
[03:09] <Kasm279> yeah
[03:09] <Kasm279> both
[03:09] <Kasm279> i need both
[03:10] <Wizzleby> ok, well in kde4, you open the K menu then go to system menu from there, and then select 'hardware drivers'
[03:10] <Kasm279> KDE 4.1 and Xfce 4.4
[03:10] <Wizzleby> that should ask you if you want to install the drivers for the ATI gfx card
[03:10] <Kasm279> there
[03:10] <Kasm279> nope
[03:11] <Wizzleby> hm. not sure I have any more suggestions then.
[03:11] <Kasm279> all that is there is b43-fwcutter :/
[03:11] <Kasm279> !ati
[03:11] <Kasm279> !thank you
[03:11] <Kasm279> lolz
[03:14] <aleksandar> kjk
[03:16] <daning> what's the maximize shortcuts in kubuntu?
[03:17] <Kasm279> !shortcuts
[03:30] <Kasm279> !wine
[03:31] <Kasm279> !appdb
[03:39] <devilsadvocate> does attempting to select and drag text on firefox in kde 4 cause a massive system hangup for anyone else? (Warning : If you try it and it happens, system because totally... and i mean totally... unresponsive for about a minute or so)
[03:48] <Kasm279> devilsadvocate: use Opera
[03:48] <devilsadvocate> Kasm279: :P
[03:48] <Kasm279> wat?
[03:49] <devilsadvocate> Kasm279: thats not a solution / answer to the question. its a workaround at best for me
[03:49] <geovanny> hi, i need help with my printer, i don't found the driver for the scan, i use ubuntu 9.04 64 bits
[03:49] <Kasm279> have you used opera?
[03:50] <devilsadvocate> Kasm279: yes i have
[03:50] <Kasm279> ok
[04:07] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[04:08] <ign0ramus> i'm being extra lazy tonight... how do I stop my session from being locked in Jaunty?
[04:10] <ign0ramus> i'm trying to be lazy here... you guys are not helping
[04:11] <ign0ramus> I may have to *google* an answer all on my own.  I don't want to have to resort to that
[04:12]  * ign0ramus lays in a pile of his own filth
[04:13] <AndySpain> hi
[04:13] <AndySpain> I can't cinfigure kmail to actually sign messages
[04:14] <AndySpain> i have specified my keys in kmail and when i write a mail and click sign and try to send it
[04:14] <AndySpain> it ells my that authentication was bad, so that my pw was wrong
[04:15] <AndySpain> but it CANNOT be wrogn as Kmail never asked me to enter the pw at any time
[04:17] <AndySpain> also the key administrator has a minor bug. If I create a new pair of keys and tell it to expire them in 10 months, it expires them in a few days. but later i can reset the date manually
[04:19] <ign0ramus> I found my answer via Google.  I had to use two hands to type.  I hope you're happy.
[04:19] <Viking667> *yawn*
[04:19] <ign0ramus> Viking667: I know.
[04:20] <juan> hello, can anyone assist me, I'm trying to add a repository but am being asked about a GNP key
[04:20] <juan> i am not familiar with the process
[04:20] <ign0ramus> juan: what's the repo?
[04:21] <ign0ramus> juan: usually the key is on the homepage of the ppa or whatever
[04:21] <juan> http://bapoumba.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/medibuntu-non-free-codecs-for-jaunty/
[04:22] <ign0ramus> juan: and you did "sudo apt-key add"?  It should add the medibuntu key automagically
[04:23] <juan> no
[04:23] <juan> let me do that
[04:23] <ign0ramus> juan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <juan> ok, that worked
[04:24] <juan> thanks
[04:24] <ign0ramus> np.
[04:25] <juan> ign0ramus, i am trying to do the same for http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_XBMC_for_Linux
[04:25] <juan> but I cant find a URl similiar
[04:25] <AndySpain> anyone can help me with my kmail problem?
[04:26] <asobi> how do i stop backups being made for each file i save?
[04:27] <ign0ramus> juan: did you try:
[04:27] <ign0ramus> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 43C0AFF0D7FAE680
[04:27] <ign0ramus> gpg --export --armor  43C0AFF0D7FAE680 | sudo apt-key add -
[04:28] <ipwnu> what is the name of the application that puts the compiz-settings-manager on the taskbar??
[04:28] <juan> gpg: fatal: error writing to `/home/juan/.gnupg/.#lk0x86dbab0.htpc.7271': No space left on device
[04:28] <juan> secmem usage: 0/0 bytes in 0/0 blocks of pool 0/32768
[04:28] <juan> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[04:30] <ign0ramus> juan: do you have available space on you HDD?
[04:30] <juan> yes, i do
[04:30] <juan> i just figured out why i got that error
[04:30] <juan> had to add sudo in front
[04:31] <juan> now I get this
[04:32] <juan> http://pastebin.ca/1404395
[04:33] <ign0ramus> juan: what if you do: "sudo chmod 777 /home/juan/.gnupg/pubring.gpg" first?
[04:34] <mark__> can someone here assist me in fixing my sound on jaunty?
[04:34] <ign0ramus> juan: it's not the most 'secure', but it should be OK to open permissions on that single file
[04:34] <themonster> viva jaunty
[04:34] <redpearl> during upgrade fro 8.10 to 9.04 fail via internet. want to know if i can download alternate cd and install upgrade via command line.  i can't login to X. only command line accessible now
[04:35] <skierpage> Konqueror offered to install the Flash plug-in, now I have "Package Install" Installing flashplugin-nonfree (good?). It's installing about a dozen dependencies, weird
[04:35] <redpearl> does gksu need to run inside GUI?
[04:35] <skierpage> mark__ I might have some ideas.
[04:36] <ign0ramus> redpearl: you can run gksu in terminal, provided you have it installed
[04:36] <ign0ramus> redpearl: you can use the LiveCD to get networking if you have a problem.
[04:37] <mark__> My pc is a dell studio 540. Every linux distro I've tried so far hasn't supported it.
[04:37] <juan> ign0ramus, now I get http://pastebin.ca/1404404
[04:37] <redpearl> ign0ramus, i have it installed.  so gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" will work
[04:37] <skierpage> mark__, can you run System Settings?  In the General tab, click Multimedia
[04:37] <redpearl> ign0ramus, now i do sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
[04:38] <skierpage> See what it shows for Audio Output.  Select each in turn and click the Test button.
[04:38] <mark__> im there now
[04:38] <redpearl> ign0ramus, and it should redo the upgrade?
[04:38] <mark__> it says it fails on test
[04:39] <ign0ramus> redpearl: yes.  I just had to do this on an upgrade that stalled on sane-utils... PITA, but it worked.
[04:39] <skierpage> mark__ what devices does it list?  (I have Creative Audigy ZS, VIA sound chip, etc.)  If you can find one that works, move it to the top.  Otherwise it's lower level and I have no suggestions.
[04:40] <mark__> My card appears to be an HDA Intel Alc888 and the only other thing listed is pulse audio
[04:40] <ign0ramus> juan: i am not sure exactly what the problem is... I've never used XMBC
[04:40] <redpearl> ign0ramus, ok, thx. i will try. i just installed 9.04 via "side-by-side", it's really bad. it modified my partition table without my consent
[04:40] <ign0ramus> redpearl: oooh.  not cool at all.
[04:40] <juan> ign0ramus, it keeps saying space issues on device too
[04:40] <rob> hello!  I need some Samba help
[04:40] <redpearl> ign0ramus, now i have a huge /sda2, which 8.10 resides.
[04:40] <mark__> neither work though
[04:40] <juan> and I got space
[04:41] <ign0ramus> juan: I am not sure, as I've never acutally used XMBC; hopefully someone can help you.  I have to get some sleep now.
[04:41] <ign0ramus> juan: have a nice day/evening, wherever you may be
[04:41] <redpearl> ign0ramus, it cranked from 30 GB to 150GB. and made a new 2.7 gb partition for 9.04
[04:42] <ign0ramus> redpearl: if you would have specified 'manual partitioning', you could have done it yourself.
[04:42] <skierpage> Mark__ , right if the underlying hardware doesn't work Pulseaudio probably won't work any better.  I don't know what you can do at the lower levels (alsa? lspci?  I'm guessing.)
[04:42] <redpearl> ign0ramus, if it's the other way around, i can live with. 30gb for 8.10 and new 100+ GB for new 9.04
[04:42] <lemon> hello noon
[04:42] <ign0ramus> redpearl: not that it helps you now... :/
[04:42] <redpearl> ign0ramus, yes. i should have.
[04:42] <juan> ign0ramus, thanks for your time
[04:43] <ign0ramus> in any event, I'm going to bed.
[04:43] <juan> night
[04:43] <ign0ramus> g'nite all.
[04:43] <redpearl> ign0ramus, thx. i will download alternate cd and try reinstall the upgrade
[04:43] <mark__> I guess I'll go post on a forum
[04:43] <ign0ramus> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
[04:43] <mark__> Thanks anyway though, I appreciate it.
[04:43] <lemon> hello ,Is there a way to help me know more about Ubuntu?
[04:44] <lemon> how can I be an expert?
[04:45] <lemon> nobody is willing to help?
[04:45] <AndySpain> read the manuel, lemon
[04:45] <AndySpain> manual*
[04:46] <lemon> where is the manuel?
[04:46] <lemon> AndySpain: where is the manual?
[04:47] <jlromero>  <lemon> how can I be an expert?.... use it
[04:47] <skierpage> lemon, http://help.ubuntu.com ?
[04:47] <AndySpain> or k-menu->help
[04:48] <lemon> Is that enough?
[04:48] <AndySpain> anybody can help me with kmail?
[04:48] <AndySpain> I can receive and send, but I cannot sign messages
[04:49] <AndySpain> I specified my private key there, but kmail faisl to ask me for my authentication password and says right away that pw was wrong
[04:50] <redpearl> where is mod_ssl on 9.04? i can't find it on repository
[04:50] <benjamin__> anyone have any recommendations for ripping cds to flac in linux?
[04:51] <skierpage> redpearl, maybe https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search is your friend
[04:52] <redpearl> skierpage, ok, thx
[04:54] <skierpage> Flash pages in Konqueror keep giving me the "Missing Plugin" alert for 'Shocwave Flash file', but when I click [Download] it says "Requested packages already installed."
[04:55] <skierpage> I've exited and restarted Konqueror, doesn't change.  Must I reboot?  Can I get more information about this "Package install" ?
[05:00] <skierpage> Guess I need more help with packages.  Where's this KPackageKit documented, doesn't seem to be any help for it.
[05:01] <jlromero> do you HACE to use  Konqueror?
[05:01] <jlromero> HAVE*
[05:23] <tacosarecool> hello I found a permanent fix for toshiba laptops
[05:24] <tacosarecool> just do the ubuntugeeks intel performance guide but just do the compiz settings manager
[05:39] <ryan_> hello
[05:43] <tacosarecool> KDE4 is faster than gnome I've found but until the fix gnome was faster
[05:44] <kathe> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:44] <kathe> oops
[05:44] <kathe> Sound Problem, HP DV5Z, not only one with it, was working 8.04,8.10 not in 9.04 upgrade.  ALSA originally did not recognize hardware, did installed module-assistant ALSA now says OK, but no sound any through speakers or headjack still.  Noticed the config file was empty, tried adding option for Hp-4 did not work either.  Will not work with OSS/ALSA/PULSE, all volumes maxed and unmuted
[05:44] <tacosarecool> lol
[05:44] <tacosarecool> hey try sudo also force-reload
[05:45] <kathe> did so tacosarecool
[05:45] <tacosarecool> I mean alsa
[05:45] <kathe> also tried it after a killall pulse
[05:45] <tacosarecool> Wait
[05:45] <wags> how do I emable transparency mode??
[05:46] <wags> its broken
[05:46] <tacosarecool> here http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/03/fix-audio-in-ubuntu-904-on-dell-mini-9.html
[05:46] <tacosarecool> that should be similar
[05:46] <tacosarecool> wags do you have desktop effects enabled?
[05:47] <wags> dunno how do I check??
[05:47] <kathe> sorry taco, not the volume problem...  this one thing is bother me the alsa-base file in modprobe.d is well blank
[05:47] <tacosarecool> computer system settings desktop
[05:47] <tacosarecool> kathe try reinstalling alsa
[05:48] <kathe> are there aptget commands for that
[05:48] <kathe> or just through synaptic
[05:48] <tacosarecool> no just use synaptic
[05:48] <tacosarecool> just do synaptic
[05:49] <wags> yeh they are enabled.  I will do a reboot
[05:49] <wags> it works normally
[05:49] <kathe> will try it out shortly
[05:49] <kathe> doing restricted extras right now
[05:50] <kathe> also odd thing is the video card driver is working, better then ever before, except can't get desktop extras working, like cube
[05:50] <kathe> but sound is more important right now so i will stay on task
[05:50] <tacosarecool> oj
[05:50] <tacosarecool> oh
[05:51] <tacosarecool> Are you using compiz for that?
[05:51] <tacosarecool> Is it lagging for you at all?
[05:51] <kathe> was, did the upgrade, haven't verified compiz is up and going yet
[05:51] <kathe> after the 9.04 upgrade
[05:51] <kathe> i've had a dozen other smaller problems
[05:52] <tacosarecool> so it was laggy with desktop effects enabled? you probably have intel graphics I have a fix for that
[05:52] <kathe> the new testing tool was crashing, got that fixed, etc.. little things... the sound one is killing me though
[05:52] <kathe> ATI graphics
[05:52] <tacosarecool> Install compiz settings manager
[05:53] <tacosarecool>  Choose General options -> General -> remove the flag on Unredirect Fullscreen Windows Choose General options -> Display Settings -> remove the flag Sync To VBlank
[05:54] <naught101> where can I see installed printers in kubuntu jaunty?
[05:55] <tacosarecool> system settings advanced
[05:55] <tacosarecool> printer configuration
[05:56] <kathe> reload alsa no go taco
[05:56] <kathe> er reinstall i ment
[05:57] <kathe> I am about the flood the channel with this but for your information
[05:57] <kathe> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/kathe/.gvfs
[05:57] <kathe>       Output information may be incomplete.
[05:57] <kathe> /sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices: 5018(mixer_applet2) 5023(pulseaudio).
[05:57] <kathe> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd-hwdep snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-device (failed: modules still loaded: snd-hda-intel snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd-hwdep snd-timer).
[05:57] <kathe> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd-hwdep snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-deviceWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:57] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:57] <kathe> WARNING: Error inserting snd_page_alloc (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-page-alloc.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:57] <kathe> WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:58] <kathe> FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> FATAL: Error inserting snd_mixer_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <tacosarecool> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:58] <kathe>  (failed).
[05:58] <kathe> kathe@kathe-laptop:~$ alsa
[05:58] <tacosarecool> !pastebin kathe
[05:58] <devilsadvocate> !pastebin | kathe
[05:58] <tacosarecool> !kathe pastebin
[06:02] <kathe> thx ubottu
[06:02] <kathe> and taco about the past in
[06:02] <naught101> tacosarecool: yes, but I can't see any printers tehre, I can just see "new printer" and "server settings", but not pane for existing printers
[06:02] <kathe> tacosarecool, i was looking at that link trying it out
[06:03] <naught101> you wouldn't know I was a native english speaker, would you?
[06:05] <tacosarecool> naught
[06:05] <tacosarecool> try searching for printer in the kmenu search
[06:06] <naught101> tacosarecool: I have
[06:06] <naught101> nothing... maybe I'm missing a package
[06:06] <naught101> I mean, the HP printer toolbox comes up, but that's not very useful
[06:06] <tacosarecool> what printer do you have/
[06:07] <tacosarecool> oh hp
[06:07] <tacosarecool> It's not networked right
[06:07] <naught101> yes it is. I'm not asking how to network the printer
[06:07] <naught101> I'm asking how to see which printers are installed on my system.
[06:07] <tacosarecool> oh
[06:07] <tacosarecool> try printing using firefox
[06:08] <tacosarecool> that will give you an idea
[06:08] <naught101> tacosarecool: when you go to system settings>advanced>printing, what options come up in the pane on the left?
[06:12] <naught101> or anyone else?
[06:12] <tacosarecool> naught did you try firefox?
[06:13] <doleyb> I upgraded to jaunty, and now have silly sound effects when clicking buttons in gtk programs (like gimp, gedit, gnometris, firefox).  But if I log into a gnome session that doesn't happen.  How can I stop it in a kde session?
[06:14] <tacosarecool> doley computer system settings desktop disable desktop effect or just check the ones you want.
[06:15] <doleyb> tacosarecool: What does that have to do with gtk or with sound?
[06:15] <tacosarecool> oh sorry
[06:15] <tacosarecool> system settings notifications
[06:16] <doleyb> It has nothing to do with notifications.
[06:16] <naught101> tacosarecool: no printers show up in firefox. one shows up in okular
[06:17] <naught101> I don't see how that's relevant
[06:17] <tacosarecool> that's weird
[06:18] <naught101> can someone plese tell me what selections come up in the list on the left in system settings>advanced>printing
[06:18] <naught101> ?
[06:18] <tzanger> well
[06:18] <tzanger> back to no composite
[06:19] <tzanger> intel video *works* but odd little problems
[06:19] <tzanger> and honestly, the display looks better without it
[06:19] <tzanger> and my keyboard is back to being 100% responsive, I thought it was due to accessibility features being half-on
[06:19] <tzanger> but it turns out to be composite
[06:21] <tacosarecool> tzager
[06:21] <tacosarecool> I have a solution
[06:21] <tacosarecool> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[06:21] <tacosarecool> oops
[06:21] <tacosarecool> sorry
[06:22] <tacosarecool> download composite settings manager then  Choose General options -> General -> remove the flag on Unredirect Fullscreen Windows Choose General options -> Display Settings -> remove the flag Sync To VBlank
[06:22] <tzanger> heh
[06:22] <tzanger> vblank was turned off
[06:23] <JohnFlux> How do I downgrade to intel version 2.4 driver?
[06:23] <tzanger> and actually I still get a bit of a delay for keypresses on dialog boxes and such, but to be honest my konsole window is snappy and that's what is important to me
[06:23] <tacosarecool> jonn
[06:23] <tzanger> JohnFlux: is there an earlier package for it?
[06:23] <tacosarecool> you don't need to downgrade
[06:23] <tacosarecool>  Choose General options -> General -> remove the flag on Unredirect Fullscreen Windows Choose General options -> Display Settings -> remove the flag Sync To VBlank
[06:23] <tacosarecool> download composite settings manager
[06:24] <tacosarecool> thanks to ubuntugeek.com
[06:24] <JohnFlux> tacosarecool: that's to me?
[06:24] <tacosarecool> yes
[06:24] <JohnFlux> tacosarecool: "General options" is where sorry?
[06:24] <tacosarecool> in general
[06:24] <JohnFlux> ...
[06:24] <tzanger> hmm twitter plasma plugin doesn't let me reply to a specific person, grr
[06:25] <tacosarecool> to get to general settings look at the side go on general
[06:25] <tacosarecool> general options
[06:25] <JohnFlux> tacosarecool: and where is "general options" ?  which application?
[06:26] <bazhang> !ccsm | JohnFlux
[06:26] <tacosarecool> hey that's weird
[06:26] <tacosarecool> I have it checked and it's not lagging
[06:26] <JohnFlux> bazhang: what has compiz got to do with anything?
[06:26] <tacosarecool> lol
[06:27] <tacosarecool> I just had to uncheck it from the gnome side I guess
[06:27] <tzanger> ubottu: I thought compiz was not installed on kubuntu
[06:27] <juan> which is the best nvidia drive for a geforce PCI-E 6200?
[06:27] <juan> i dont get the nvidia splash screen
[06:29] <kathe> hey taco.... still no go, but found out why alsa-base is blank, it's because it's now alsa-base.conf
[06:42] <p-f> Hi, is there a "Help, upgrading to Jaunty broke _____" wiki somewhere? Where _____ in my case is wireless, hibernation, sound, vim syntax highlighting and colour schemes.
[06:47] <raylu> o.0
[06:48] <dwidmann> 0.o
[06:48] <raylu> sounds like you should consider reinstalling
[06:48] <raylu> tzanger: it is, but it's called "desktop effects"
[06:49] <p-f> raylu, was the reinstalling comment aimed at me?
[06:49] <raylu> p-f: yes
[06:49] <p-f> I'm considering it, although it wouldn't be the same distro
[06:49] <raylu> what would you be installing?
[06:49] <p-f> but surely someone else has encountered the same problems
[06:49] <p-f> I have no idea, arch or gentoo?
[06:50] <raylu> i've never used archlinux
[06:50] <p-f> something that doesn't have brutal updates like H->J
[06:50] <p-f> er, I->J
[06:50] <raylu> i've actually never had a problem with either a kubuntu or an ubuntu upgrade... because i reinstall a lot
[06:50] <p-f> no coffee = no alphabet for me
[06:50] <raylu> but upgrading a gentoo kernel is brutal
[06:50] <dwidmann> p-f: h-j would be brutal ... seeing as you have to h-i-j
[06:50] <p-f> I've never had any problems upgrading a gentoo kernel
[06:51] <p-f> dwidmann: I haven't had coffee yet, I meant intrepid to jaunty :)
[06:51] <p-f> but I've invested so much time tweaking little things that it would be a shame to switch now
[06:51] <dwidmann> p-f: so what about it is brutal anyhow, I've not bothered to yet
[06:52] <p-f> dwidmann: well (at least for me), hibernation, sound, a bunch of things related to vim and wireless don't work anymore
[06:52] <raylu> i have a lot of little tweaks; that's why i also back up my xmonad, xmodmap, vimrc, vimperatorrc, and a few other configs
[06:52] <p-f> it seems to have gone smoothly for some other people though
[06:52] <dwidmann> p-f: use intrepid's kernel with jaunty? (and report bugs against each non-working thing)
[06:53] <p-f> dwidmann: do you know if upgrading keeps the old kernel just in case?
[06:53] <p-f> I didn't pay attention in grub last time I booted
[06:53] <raylu> p-f: old kernels are not removed, i believe
[06:54] <raylu> apt-cache search linux-image
[06:54] <p-f> guess it's worth a shot
[06:54] <Guest20166> hello
[06:54] <Guest20166> every body
[06:54] <dwidmann> hi Guest20166
[06:55] <raylu> p-f: wait, they're not in the repos anymore. ls /boot
[06:55] <sunnydrake> check /boot/ folder?
[06:56] <p-f> raylu: I'll have to reboot to have a look - I'm on windows right now (no wifi on linux)
[06:56] <dwidmann> raylu: they're not in the repos, but if you had them installed previously they won't be removed.
[06:56] <p-f> I remember seeing more than 4 entries in grub this morning, so it should still be there
[06:57] <p-f> I'll try it out, brb
[07:00] <raylu> dwidmann: right. but the search of apt-cache won't be helpful
[07:01] <dwidmann> raylu: dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[07:01] <dwidmann> raylu: that would be :)
[07:02] <raylu> indeed
[07:06] <tzanger> for the nonfree/restricted codecs and stuff, do I still use the nonfree repo like I did in 7.10?
[07:06] <dwidmann> tzanger: the same, however, it's enabled by default since 8.04 I think
[07:07] <dwidmann> tzanger: package to get most of that would be kubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:08] <tzanger> dwidmann: nice, thank you
[07:11] <rocky_fortune> sooo...hi
[07:12] <tim_> how do I install koffice2 rc1 through apt?
[07:14] <dwidmann> tim_: there may be a ppa repo for it
[07:15] <dwidmann> tim_: wait, no, it should be  in jaunty, just install koffice-kde4
[07:15] <raylu> koffice-kde4: Version: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1
[07:15] <raylu> !info koffice-kde4
[07:16] <dwidmann> tim_: if you don't have 9.04, see this: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2-rc
[07:16] <tim_> dwidmann: that just got me beta 7
[07:16] <raylu> any reason it's <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:16] <dwidmann> raylu: because it won't be 2.0 til release
[07:16] <raylu> that's still a bad version number
[07:17] <dwidmann> raylu: there's barely such a thing as a bad version number ... so long as it keeps things straight :)
[07:17] <raylu> and <IP_ADDRESS> just confuses me. especially if a change needs to made before 2.0 is released
[07:17] <dwidmann> raylu: (if you started throwing in things like pi or e or i into the mix, then it'd be a bad version number)
[07:18] <dwidmann> raylu: if another change needs to be made, it becomes <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> or something ...
[07:20] <tim_> dwidmann: well it's installed but it's only beta 7, and it crashes on loading
[07:20] <raylu> dwidmann: or something equally ugly
[07:21] <tzanger> ouch
[07:21] <dwidmann> tim_: might need to get it from a ppa repo then ... can't really promise it's stable either
[07:22] <tzanger> is there a recommended way to edit the HAL fdi policies other than manually editing xml files??
[07:22] <dwidmann> koffice2 needs a massive amount of work ... in fact, several apps are supposedly being left out of the 2.0 release
[07:23] <tim_> dwidmann: looking deeper it looks like kword is beta 7, but kspread is rc 1 and both are using outdated references, I'm propably going to do a clean install to fix this.
[07:23] <dwidmann> tim_: what does apt-cache say about them?
[07:25] <p-f> raylu/dwidmann the old kernel was indeed there, but it didn't help wifi at all
[07:25] <dwidmann> tim_: for example ... apt-cache policy koffice-kde4 kword-kde4 kspread-kde4 | grep Installed
[07:25] <dwidmann> p-f: and the other problems?
[07:25] <p-f> knetworkmanager just sits there, spewing out its usual debug info (even though it shouldn't, but that's another topic), saying "enabling connection blah on device blah"
[07:25] <tim_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/159103/
[07:26] <p-f> dwidmann: I didn't test hibernation, but sound's also dead
[07:26] <doleyb> p-f: why use knetworkmanager?
[07:26] <p-f> doleyb: because iw is a pain to configure for wpa
[07:28] <dwidmann> I think I tried to do that once, and gave up after half an hour
[07:28] <p-f> same
[07:29] <p-f> I actually managed to get it to work a few months ago, but that was on another computer
[07:29] <dwidmann> p-f: at any rate, not worth that much trouble
[07:30] <saz_> hi I ve upgraded to Jaunty  and now have a problem with Xserver
[07:30] <saz_> I have an ATI Sapphire X55 card
[07:30] <saz_> any suggestions?
[07:32] <dwidmann> saz_: I think I've heard about it before, but I don't think I've heard any real solutions other than "suck it up" or "get a newer card that's supported by fglrx" or "wait for them to fix it"  or "stay with intrepid" ... granted, that doesn't mean that there isn't one, just because I haven't heard about it
[07:34] <saz_> dwidmann thanks
[07:48] <skierpage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware says "Kubuntu's new and easy method of installing packages is to use the 'Add/Remove Programs' tool."
[07:48] <naught103> where can I view a print job list in kde4.2?
[07:49] <skierpage> with a screenshot of "Adept installer".  I have no such tool in Kubuntu 9.04.  Presumably that doc is out-of-date?
[07:49] <naught103> skierpage: press alt+f2, and type adept, installer should come up second
[07:50] <naught103> but adept_manager is better, and aptitude (command line) is better than that
[07:51] <doleyb> skierpage: in 9.04 there is kpackagekit instead of adept
[07:51] <skierpage> naught103, nope, adept doesn't pop up.
[07:51] <naught103> ok
[07:52] <skierpage> doleyb,  KPackageKit has no help:, no doc, no tooltips.  I guess I'll start mastering the command line (dpkg or aptitude?)
[07:52] <naught103> aptitude
[07:54] <tzanger> what does "ppa" stand for with respect to ubuntu?
[07:54] <faileas> personal package archive
[07:55] <tzanger> faileas: hmm, okay
[07:55] <tzanger> thanks
[07:55] <skierpage> doleyb, naught103, does the "Package Install" alert that keeps popping up when I go to a Flash tie in Konq use dpkg or aptitude?   I'd like to see what it thinks it installed.
[07:59] <naught103> skierpage: almost everything (including aptitude, and adept, and kpackagekit) uses apt, which uses dpkg
[08:00] <skierpage> naught103 thanks, the fog lifts somewhat.  Sounds like yum and rpm in Fedora-land.
[08:00]  * daskreech smells talk of apt
[08:01] <gogreen> how to upgrade with alternate cd via command line, at console?  gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" have to run in X.
[08:02] <daskreech> Add the cd as an apt source
[08:04] <reallove> hello. I just upgraded kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 via the automatic update process. All went ok,just the new kernel 2.6.28-11 is not in the grub menu.lst . And not the modules,it's still mounted /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/ . How can I fix that ?
[08:05]  * eagles0513875 starts swearing at flash package
[08:05] <eagles0513875> morning daskreech
[08:06] <daskreech> !ohmy | eagles0513875
[08:06] <daskreech> :-D
[08:06] <faileas> lol
[08:06] <eagles0513875> lol morning to you daskreech
[08:06] <eagles0513875> i didnt type anything in here to warrent that lol
[08:07] <eagles0513875> how buggy is the flash package for 64bit
[08:07] <marie_blubb> Hi, I have a problem with my printer. it works at my pc, and I can see it at http://localhost:631 . problem it doesnt work over cups at another pc in the network
[08:09] <eagles0513875> daskreech: or faileas any idea about flash. im playing some flash clips and it gets super jittery
[08:10]  * daskreech tries to stay away from  Flash
[08:11] <dwidmann> Adobe Flash is the devil.
[08:11] <daskreech> No just the gatekeeper
[08:12] <naught103> skierpage: almost everything (including aptitude, and adept, and kpackagekit) uses apt, which uses dpkg
[08:12] <faileas> eagles0513875: try sudo alsa force_reload
[08:12] <eagles0513875> faileas: its not audio issue
[08:12] <eagles0513875> faileas: this is a flash issue
[08:12] <faileas> eagles0513875: i had super stuttery flash and that seemed to fic it
[08:13] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: probably not, but probably wouldn't hurt to try anyway
[08:13] <faileas> what he said ;p
[08:13] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:13] <eagles0513875> faileas: did you file a bug if you want then i can confirm it
[08:13] <faileas> eagles0513875: its intermittant >_>
[08:13] <faileas> and i haven't had it recently
[08:14] <dwidmann> daskreech: I still think it's the devil .. if it hadn't become so dominant maybe we'd have an open standard to a similar effect today ...
[08:14] <skierpage> aptitude thinks I have flashplugin-installer, flashplugin-nonfree, and konqueror-nsplugins installed, yet no Flash in Konqueror on AMD64.  Oh well.
[08:14] <faileas> dwidmann: and its abused for web page 'desgin'
[08:15] <doleyb> dwidmann: yeah but blame that more on Sun's incompetence than macromedia's evil flash.
[08:15] <daskreech> doleyb: huh?
[08:15] <dwidmann> daskreech: java applets
[08:15] <daskreech> I think he did say open standard
[08:16] <daskreech> Sun doesn't have any web open standards
[08:16] <daskreech> certainly not when Flash was being insinuating
[08:16] <doleyb> daskreech: if java had been handled right, flash wouldn't have had a chance to spread.
[08:16] <dwidmann> Sun has opened up considerably since then, but it's probably too little too late
[08:17] <daskreech> doleyb: It still wouldn't have been an open standard
[08:17] <doleyb> daskreech: you're incorrect.
[08:17]  * daskreech chuckles
[08:17] <valdis2> hello
[08:17] <doleyb> Hi valdis2!!
[08:17] <daskreech> Anyway alternate history discussions shouldn't be held here
[08:18] <valdis2> first time using irc
[08:18] <dwidmann> and to make matters worse, Microsoft wants a piece of the pie too
[08:18] <daskreech> valdis2: Welcome
[08:18] <skierpage> Got it!  After everything auto-installs, you have to do Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Plugins > Plugins tab and click [Scan for Plugins] !
[08:19] <dwidmann> daskreech: yeah, shame when we remember that the conversations always die though :( (I'm autojoined to -offtopic ... seems many people aren't)
[08:19] <skierpage> Now to never use Flash again and ask web designers to use HTML5 <canvas>, <audio> instead even though they won't work in MSIE ;-)
[08:20] <daskreech> Hooray!
[08:20] <dwidmann> skierpage: which is why many places won't move forward for another ten years, they'll stay in 1995
[08:21] <lexad> hi to all ..
[08:21] <lexad> i need some help pls .
[08:22] <lexad> i just downloade'd this version Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[08:22] <lexad> i have a laptop dell inspiron 170 with wifi connection
[08:22] <dwidmann> !ask | lexad
[08:23] <lexad> this mersion Ubuntu Netbook Remix if i install on my inspiron 1720 can i use wifi connection ?
[08:23] <lexad> *version
[08:23] <ameyer> perhaps?
[08:23] <skierpage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats suggests `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras` to play MP3s.  "110 newly installed" packages ??!
[08:24] <dwidmann> skierpage: not ubuntu-restricted-extras (unless you're using gnome and wandered into the kubuntu channel mistakenly) ...
[08:24] <dwidmann> skierpage: use kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:25] <skierpage> dwidmann, thanks, I need to read more carefully.
[08:25] <lexad> well i can enter on #Ubuntu to ask there. .so anyone can help me .?
[08:26] <daskreech> !netbook
[08:26] <dwidmann> skierpage: otherwise you'd end up *still* not being able to play mp3's, since Ubuntu/GNOME seems to favor GStreamer for audio, while Kubuntu/KDE favors Xine
[08:27] <raylu> so i had python 2.6 installed and proceeded to install python 3...
[08:27] <skierpage> lexad, why not try booting from the live media and see if it works?
[08:27] <raylu> realizing this wasn't what i wanted, i purged it but i got this: INFO: using unknown version '/usr/bin/python3.0' (debian_defaults not up-to-date?)
[08:27] <dwidmann> lexad: what does lspci say about your wireless?
[08:28] <bouin> Hello, does someone try to use xinerama for multiscreen with an ATI graphic card ???
[08:28] <dwidmann> skierpage: though, technically speaking, anything ubuntu supports, the netbook remix will support also, if that was your question
[08:28] <dwidmann> bouin: I am right now.
[08:29] <bouin> dwidmann: Enabling xinerama crash my X server . . .
[08:29] <skierpage> dwidmann, kubuntu-restricted-extras says 51 newly installed packages/221 MB, less but still seems a lot just to play MP3s in Amarok.
[08:29] <bouin> dwidmann: I am using the last driver from ati website . . .
[08:29] <dwidmann> skierpage: if that's all you want then that is overkill and a half.
[08:30] <dwidmann> bouin: which version of Ubuntu, which card?
[08:30] <bouin> dwidmann:I am using kubuntu 9.04
[08:30] <dwidmann> skierpage: libxine1-ffmpeg -- install that
[08:31] <eagles0513875> does anyone know how to change the color of the area where ones types text in kopete. i have a custom color applier that i would like to keep on the rest of the system but change it in the chat boxes the color of the area that i type in :
[08:32] <doleyb> I upgraded to jaunty, and now have silly sound effects when clicking buttons in gtk programs (like gimp, gedit, gnometris, firefox).  But if I log into a gnome session that doesn't happen.  How can I stop it in a kde session?
[08:32] <lexad> i want to know if i install that version ...on my laptop i can use  wirelles connection
[08:32] <skierpage> dwidmann ++ !
[08:33] <bouin> dwidmann: I am using kubuntu 9.04 and ATI HD 2400 XT with the last drivers form ati website . . . and it does not resolve anything
[08:34] <lexad> dwidmann i don't know if that version is install himself my wirelles driver, or i must find some ..
[08:34] <dwidmann> lexad: there should be a link to a compatibility list on this thing, make sure yours is on the list
[08:34] <dwidmann> !wireless | lexad
[08:35] <dwidmann> bouin: I'm not on Jaunty (yet) or I'd check
[08:35] <dwidmann> bouin: it's working fine for me with latest driver and Intrepid with a 4670 though
[08:35] <bouin> dwidmann: I have seen that it was the same problem with 8.10
[08:36] <bouin> dwidmann: is the 4670 an ati card ?
[08:36] <dwidmann> bouin: full name being RadeonHD 4670
[08:37] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: I think I looked for that in Kopete before and couldn't manage, what's worse is sometimes the text is forced black when I'm typing and its hard to read ...
[08:37] <bouin> dwidmann:it means that If i came back with 8.10 it should be fine with xinerama
[08:37] <bouin> dwidmann:Are you using gnome or KDE ?
[08:38] <dwidmann> bouin: Possibly, unless it's a problem specific to your card, in which case I don't know if there's something you can do about it or not
[08:38] <JohnFlux> after upgrading to 9,04 I don't get any sound in skype
[08:38] <dwidmann> bouin: KDE 4.2.2, compiled from source
[08:38] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: with the current background i am using it forces the text white
[08:38] <bouin> dwidmann: do you know if they upgrated the x server on the 9.04 ?
[08:39] <dwidmann> bouin: yes, yes they did.
[08:39] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: Kopete has needed work for this area in years IMO
[08:39] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: I think it'd be a fairly simple problem to fix too
[08:39] <eagles0513875> agreed with ya on that
[08:39] <bouin> dwidmann: so what do you suggest me ?
[08:40] <dwidmann> bouin: I've got no clue, have you Xinerama working with that card in the past, at all, ever?
[08:41] <dwidmann> bouin: because if so, installing an older driver or something might be able to do the trick.
[08:41] <bouin> dwidmann: yes it was working very well with kubuntu 8.04
[08:42] <doleyb> So, I have plasma at 50-75% CPU for over an hour now, no desktop effects enabled, only 2 plasmoids (network and battery), not doing anything except idle in irc.  That's bad huh!
[08:42] <bouin> dwidmann: seems like it's the old xserver that was working with . . .
[08:42] <dwidmann> !info xserver-xorg-video-fglrx hardy
[08:43] <dwidmann> !info xorg-driver-fglrx hardy
[08:43] <dwidmann> So, it would be version 7.1 of the fglrx driver, I presume
[08:44] <bouin> dwidmann: I was using envy . . .
[08:44] <dwidmann> bouin: still worth a try, if that doesn't do the trick it may be a much harder problem
[08:45] <bouin> dwidmann: do you think that I could try to compile the old xserver ?
[08:45] <dwidmann> bouin: Changing versions of X would probably be a nightmare
[08:45] <bouin> dwidmann: yeah i guess
[08:45] <dwidmann> bouin: sure, you can try, and good luck :)
[08:45] <JohnFlux> how do I tell if I'm using pulseaudio?
[08:46] <doleyb> JohnFlux: first check if pulseaudio package is installed.  If not, you're not.
[08:47] <JohnFlux> doleyb: seems so :-)
[08:50] <bouin> dwidmann: I already compiled it for an arm platform it was a big work, I don't really want to do that lol
[08:50] <bouin> dwidmann: evenmore if it is just for my computer
[08:50] <dwidmann> bouin: I imagined such
[08:51] <eagles0513875> btw flash is fixed that is strange how alsa can make flash not work right
[08:51] <dwidmann> bouin: I might have tried it once, but the source seems to be in many separate tarballs instead of just one
[08:51] <bouin> dwidmann: That's right it was
[08:52] <bouin> dwidmann: I am going to try to use the 8.10 . . .
[08:53] <dwidmann> bouin:  good luck ... if your time is worth money you might want to opt to put in a card without the issue instead of going to trouble for it
[08:54] <bouin> dwidmann: I am at work :-(
[08:54] <dwidmann> bouin: they won't let you? not even for productivities sake?
[08:55] <bouin> dwidmann: They do not really know what I am doing . . . and i keep managing the engineers . . .
[08:56] <buzzDrive> Does somebody can tell me how do i test output display via a second screen because i can't output my display via this screen
[08:57] <bouin> dwidmann: do you know why we can not download the hardy iso when we are on http://www.kubuntu-fr.org/telechargement ??? wierd !!!
[08:58] <doleyb> buzzDrive: That could depend some on what kind of vid card you use.
[08:58] <buzzDrive> doleyb: thanks before I installed nvidia driver my screen works fine and now nothing works
[08:59] <dwidmann> bouin: I dunno, try a different mirror
[08:59] <doleyb> buzzDrive: Nothing at all?  All screens are off??
[08:59] <daskreech> hi AaNnAa ;-)
[08:59] <buzzDrive> no sorry the screen is light on but I have no display doleyb
[09:00] <faileas> make
[09:01] <dwidmann> buzzDrive: if you have something in one of your screens, try typing in kdesudo nvidia-settings
[09:01] <doleyb> buzzDrive: You're using another computer now?  It would be hard to make a second screen come on without the first one.  Is your PC on a network?
[09:01] <bouin> dwidmann: ok thank you going to try the kubuntu 8.10 . . . bye
[09:01] <buzzDrive> dwidmann: ok I am on my laptop and it works I try what you said
[09:02] <buzzDrive> Ok i belive that i found the issue do I have to use Twinview or seperate screen?
[09:03] <doleyb> buzzDrive: Normally use twinview
[09:04] <Dday> Hey
[09:04] <dwidmann> buzzDrive: separate screen and KDE4 don't get along
[09:05] <dwidmann> buzzDrive: so effectively if you use KDE4 you don't have a choice
[09:05] <Rook> Guys i have installed Ubuntu within windows
[09:05] <Rook> In Ubuntu when i try to shutdown or restart i just get a black screen?
[09:06] <dwidmann> Rook: hard telling what the issue is ... I've seen buggy video drivers cause that problem before though
[09:07] <Rook> When i tried to update drivers
[09:07] <Rook> It said i had to pay for them?
[09:07] <dwidmann> odd
[09:13] <daskreech> Some linux drivers are pay only
[09:23] <marie_blubb> hi, i have a problem with cupsd.conf. the file its changing by itself after restarting the server :( changes: http://ja.pastebin.ca/1404632  thats how the pc changes it: http://ja.pastebin.ca/1404646
[09:23] <marie_blubb> thats why i cannot print over the network
[09:26] <eagles0513875> thats strange the flash command faileas you gave me or was it daskreech or smoeone it fixed flash but screwed up my audio  my audio seems ot be using the pulseaudio driver
[09:26] <faileas> eagles0513875: dang
[09:26] <faileas> i did
[09:26] <eagles0513875> faileas: tell me bout it
[09:26] <eagles0513875> im tempted to reboot to see if i can use my normal driver
[09:27] <faileas> eagles0513875: no idea why it works, it just does
[09:27] <eagles0513875> could there be an irq conflict between sound and flash or something
[09:27] <eagles0513875> faileas: i would prefer to use my digital driver but for some reason it doesnt work
[09:28] <eagles0513875> this is super strange
[09:28] <eagles0513875> faileas: restarting alsa using the pulsaudio driver then back to analog driver fixed the issues
[09:29] <faileas> yay
[09:29] <faileas> wierd bug tho
[09:29] <faileas> what audio device?
[09:29] <eagles0513875> i have 2
[09:29] <eagles0513875> this is an nvidia chipset that has 2 outputs one analog and digital for some reason the digital one doesnt work :(
[09:29] <eagles0513875> which i would rather use instead of analog
[09:30] <SandGorgon> guys.. any nice image viewer in KDE - gwenview doesnt even have a ruler
[09:37] <ubuntu> how do i add a blank space in my panel, so that my widgets don't look unncessarily "stretched"?
[09:39] <buzzDrive> Ok thanks for support my second display screen works dwidmann|away
[09:41] <kinkie> Hi all. I have a kubuntu jaunty installed on a physical partition (/dev/sda1) which I'd like to move to a lvm-backed rootfs. So far I'm failing, any hints on how to do it? Thanks!
[09:42] <olembe> Hello. Have Kubuntu running on a Macbook, set up to use GB Mac keyboard. Anyone got any idea how I can type a # sign? Normally, on Mac,it's alt-3, but that doesn't work!
[09:43] <eagles0513875> kinkie: are you wanting to copy the partition to another drive
[09:44] <kinkie> eagles0513875: same physical spindle, but yes.
[09:44] <kinkie> eagles0513875: the situation is:
[09:45] <eagles0513875> kinkie: have you tried the dd command im not sure if that will do waht you want
[09:45] <kinkie> eagles0513875: copying the filesystem is not the problem. Rather it seems that update-initramfs doesn't peek the lvm volumes up
[09:46] <eagles0513875> kinkie: are they in the fstab
[09:46] <tsimpson> !lvm
[09:47] <ubuntu> is the panel spacer plasmoid in the jaunty repos?
[09:48] <olembe> ubuntu: I'm pretty sure I saw it for download on kde-look.org
[09:49] <ubuntu> olembe: but the one there is the 0.1 version, which is ugly.. i was looking for the 0.2 version
[09:49] <olembe> ubuntu: ah, sorry. I don't know then
[09:49] <rohan> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Panel+Spacer?content=89304 --- this
[09:49] <rohan> this is the one you're talking about, right olembe?
[09:50] <olembe> rohan: yes, that's the one. It is listed as 0.2
[09:50] <rohan> but the available package is 0.1 only :(
[09:50] <rohan> i'll need to compile from source
[09:50] <kinkie> tsimpson: documentation seems to concentrate on how to set LVM up; I can do that just fine. My problem is with initramfs, not lvm :(
[09:51] <tsimpson> does it say if your root can be LVM?
[09:51] <kinkie> tsimpson: it can. The alternate install can do that when installing from scratch. Which I'd like to avoid if possible...
[09:52] <olembe> rohan: that shouldn't be a problem. I've compiled plasma widgets from source and I'm quite a newcomer to linux!
[09:52] <kinkie> (which = install from scratch)
[09:52] <rohan> i am not worried aobut how difficult it is, problem is that i just can't compile while i am on the live cd.
[09:54] <tsimpson> kinkie: I would suggest you try asking in #ubuntu-server more likely to find people familiar with LVM in there
[09:55] <kinkie> Ok, thanks.
[09:55] <rocky_fortune> so how do I get flash and java working and drivers for a vid card?
[09:55] <tsimpson> !flash
[09:55] <tsimpson> !binarydriver
[09:57] <eagles0513875> rocky_fortune: for flash and java i would recommend using the kubuntu-restricted-extras package it contains flash java and other proprietary drivers
[09:57] <rohan> olembe: in case you're interested, here's the package for jaunty - https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa?field.name_filter=spacer&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=any
[09:58] <olembe> Thanks, rohan.
[10:10] <rocky_fortune> this is driving me crazy
[10:10] <eagles0513875> whats wrong rocky_fortune
[10:13] <rocky_fortune> well I googled the kubuntu-restricted-extras package since I really don't know how to get it and it tell's me to use adept which I have no idea how to work
[10:18] <trylik> hi is there any nice GUI app for creating pdf from jpegs?
[10:31] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: ping
[10:32] <rocky_fortune> ping?
[10:33] <rocky_fortune> pong?
[10:33] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: Why do you want kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:33] <rocky_fortune> i need some flash and java
[10:34] <daskreech> Install using kpackagekit
[10:34] <rocky_fortune> what's that?
[10:35] <daskreech> The package manager
[10:35] <daskreech> Software managment tool
[10:35] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: You are using Jaunty ?
[10:35] <rocky_fortune> yes
[10:36] <daskreech> press alt+F2 and type package
[10:36] <rocky_fortune> found it
[10:36] <daskreech> go to the bottom button on the left
[10:37] <daskreech> then click edit software sources and make sure that multiverse is checked
[10:42] <blackality> film
[10:42] <blackality> film list
[10:43] <daskreech> weird
[10:43] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: Doing ok?
[10:44] <rocky_fortune> not really. It decided to crash.
[10:44] <daskreech> kpackagekit?
[10:44] <rocky_fortune> and it's installing some package that I don't even know.
[10:44] <daskreech> First time I've heard of that
[10:44] <rocky_fortune> yes
[10:45] <daskreech> Yes it installs a whole lot of packages
[10:45] <daskreech> That's the point :)
[10:45] <rocky_fortune> well I was clicking yes to multiverse then it started installing things
[10:45] <daskreech> That's not intsalling
[10:46] <daskreech> That's updating the list of things that you can install
[10:47] <digdeep> hi, how do I change the look of kmenu into classic "windows start menu"? (I forgot how to do it)
[10:47] <daskreech> digdeep: Right click it
[10:48] <digdeep> where do I change it?
[10:49] <daskreech> Switch to classicmenu
[10:49] <rocky_fortune> I cant seem to find the restricted extras :/
[10:50] <digdeep> Do I right click the start menu?
[10:50] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: It's finished the update?
[10:50] <daskreech> digdeep: yes
[10:50] <daskreech> THe button that pops up the start menu
[10:50] <digdeep> then menu editor?
[10:50] <hamedich> ايه يامان
[10:51] <rocky_fortune> I've no idea i've changed the sofware sources like you asked.
[10:51] <daskreech> !arabic
[10:51] <hamedich> اراااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااابيك
[10:51] <hamedich> انا بتكلم عربى
[10:52] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: ok You should have kubuntu-restricted-extras now when you search
[10:52] <hamedich> حد عاوز مساعدة
[10:52] <daskreech> !arabic > hamedich
[10:53] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: If not close it and reopen
[10:54] <rocky_fortune> got it ty
[10:54] <hamedich> :)
[10:56] <digdeep> I found that in Jaunty, the correct way is to add the app launch menu from widget system (with tradition menu)
[10:57] <hamedich> i have downloaded wine program that make me lunch windows program and games
[10:57] <daskreech> digdeep: same thing :)
[10:57] <daskreech> all the right click method does is swap them out
[10:58] <daskreech> hamedich: ok
[10:58] <rocky_fortune> >.< it doesn't work on firefox
[10:58] <daskreech> rocky_fortune: What doesn't?
[10:58] <rocky_fortune> flash and java
[10:58] <javi> hola hay alguien q me entiende?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:59] <bazhang> !es
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !es
[10:59] <daskreech> try install sun-java6-plugin
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !java
[10:59] <daskreech> flash should work
[10:59] <rocky_fortune> nope
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> rocky_fortune: are you using 64bit or 32bit Linux?
[11:05] <rocky_fortune> 32 bit
[11:05] <Firefishe> How do I enable the root password temporarily, then reverse the process?  (I really know what I"m doing here, but I forgot the procedure.)
[11:05] <faileas> Firefishe: sudo su?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> rocky_fortune: nice, then run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> rocky_fortune: gives you flash
[11:06] <hyper_ch> Firefishe: sudo -i
[11:06] <Firefishe> faileas:  I'm installing something that pops up an xterm wanting the root password.  I need to enable it system wide for this one thing, then change it back to normal.
[11:07] <Firefishe> hyper_ch:  I don't think that'll work.  It's asking me for it during a script run, which pops up the xterm and a root password line.
[11:07] <hyper_ch> Firefishe: then your script is wrong
[11:07] <Firefishe> hyper_ch:  no, it's not
[11:07]  * kinkie is away: Stuff to do, people to see...
[11:07] <Firefishe> I'm installing rox
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> !away > kinkie
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> rox ftw
[11:08] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  ftw?
[11:08] <Firefishe> !abbreviations | ActionParsnip
[11:08] <Firefishe> blast
[11:08] <rocky_fortune> ty, it works
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: for the win
[11:10] <alarm> hello, i just upgraded to 9.04 , the problem i have is with the nvidia drivers that need to be reinstalled. at the moment i can use only console, and the nvidia  installation package is on my windows partition, how can i mount it through console and get this file ?
[11:10] <hyper_ch> alarm: 32 or 64bit?
[11:10] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  ok... what did you mean by it?  I'm lost, sorry.
[11:11] <alarm> 64bit
[11:11] <Firefishe> alarm:  best to copy it to your /home/user directory
[11:11] <Firefishe> and use it directly from within that directory you copy it to
[11:11] <hyper_ch> alarm: any specific version that you want?
[11:11] <alarm> Firefishe:  i cannot copy it. i need to access my windows partition first
[11:11] <Firefishe> mount the partition?
[11:11] <alarm> how do i do that from console ?
[11:11] <alarm> normaly under kde its been done by i a simple click
[11:12] <alarm> but from console ?
[11:12] <alarm> its an ntfs partition where the nvidia  .bin file is
[11:12] <rocky_fortune> what's it mean when it say's I need to fork?
[11:12] <Firefishe> chiefly, something like:   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda# /media/winXP
[11:12] <hyper_ch> alarm: I currently use this one:  ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.29-pkg2.run
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: rox is awesome, short answer
[11:12] <hyper_ch> alarm: you can just:    wget ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.29-pkg2.run
[11:12] <alarm> hyper_ch:  my problem is not what to use
[11:12] <Firefishe> alarm:  # is the name of the drive, such as /dev/sda5
[11:12] <alarm> i need to access it from my partition
[11:12] <alarm> i got the drivers , on a windows partition
[11:12] <alarm> and i dont know how to mount it from console to start the installtion
[11:12] <hyper_ch> alarm: why not just redownloading them?
[11:13] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  I'm finding that out. :-)  But I want to add it system wide, and I need to enable the root password.  Help?
[11:13] <alarm> cause I cant log into KDE
[11:13] <hyper_ch> alarm: wget ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.29-pkg2.run
[11:13] <hyper_ch> alarm: that downloads it
[11:13] <Firefishe> thanks hyper_ch
[11:13] <alarm> i dont have any web connection through my wifi under console
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: you dont need the root pass, you can do everything with sudo and gksudo
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> and kdesudo
[11:14] <alarm> if i would have i'd use lynx to download it again
[11:14] <alarm> i dont , as i dont know how to mount from console the partition
[11:15] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  Ok, let me outline the problem-at-hand.  I'm in fluxbox, accessing the rox apps, and using rox-session to setup rox with a login entry to my login manager.  During the process, it asks for my root user password.  Now, I'm aware--as we all are--of ubuntu's sudo-centric philosophy-for-security attitude, etc.  If I didn't like it, I wouldn't be here.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !rootsudo
[11:16] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  That said, I still need something to type in to the root user request popup when it appears....hence, temporarily enable root, do my business with rox-session setup, then reverse the process back to sudo,.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: its at the bottom of that, if you bork your system its not my fault
[11:16] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  I've been using gnu/linux since madrake 5, young man! ;)
[11:17] <Firefishe> mandrake ;)hee
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: you can use kdesudo to bring up a lil popup to ask for pass
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: mandrake 7 here
[11:17] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  okay, I'll try it.
[11:17] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  it *was* all the rage way back in the days of 2.2 and 2.4 ;) hee
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: still rocks now
[11:18] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  As the rest of this talk isn't 'buntu-centric, may I ap you?
[11:18] <Firefishe> pm
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> sure
[11:25] <guedressel> hello
[11:25] <guedressel> my jaunty doesn't play sound in non-kde applications...
[11:25] <guedressel> ...is this something only happening to me?
[11:26] <guedressel> vlc plays no sound - neither does the Flash Plugin
[11:26] <guedressel> amarok plays loud tough
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[11:37] <KiRiLoS> I cant delete the trash files,i get this error:The file or folder /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files/Documents does not exist. Any solutions?Thanks
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[11:39] <ktmini> Bonjour. Désolé si c'a déjà été traité mais la mise à jour de intrepid à jaunty m'a enlevé les icones knetwork et batterie du syst tray et du coup je ne peux plus me connecter qu'en filaire, plus de wifi avec ma intel 2200BG. Solution?
[11:39] <KiRiLoS> ActionParsnip, the thing is that the trash is empty and when i go to that folder there's nothing in it
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> KiRiLoS: whats the output of    file ~/.local/share/Trash/files/Documents
[11:40] <KiRiLoS> ActionParsnip, the /Documents folder isnt there @ all and that's the whole problem.It caused when i erased some stuff off an external ntfs drive
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> KiRiLoS: hmm, then i would use; mkdir ~/.local/share/Trash/files/Documents
[11:41] <ktmini> since intrepid to jaunty update, knetwork and battery icons disappeared and my main problem is i can't connect with wifi anymore. Do you guys have any solution? Thanks a lot!
[11:42] <KiRiLoS> ActionParsnip, oh lol,i never thought that.That may be helpfull!I'll try it out
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> KiRiLoS: just humour it ;)
[11:44] <KiRiLoS> ActionParsnip, Lol!It worked :P thanks
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hahahaha textbook
[11:46] <ktmini> shy up :s
[11:47] <guedressel> ActionParsnip: thanks for the sound notice...
[11:47] <guedressel> ...it's not what i looked for
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> bah
[11:47] <guedressel> sound is actually working
[11:47] <guedressel> but only for kde-apps
[11:48] <guedressel> i think it's something like pulse audio making my problems
[11:48] <guedressel> and i'm running a plain jaunty installation
[11:48] <guedressel> no extra software or configurations...
[11:49] <guedressel> and non of the pulseaudio packages are installed
[11:49] <guedressel> is this good?
[11:49] <Wazmyn> guedressel: there was something in the release notes about pulseaudio being installed when it shouldn't be
[11:50] <yaa_> hi all
[11:50] <guedressel> the flash plugin is not relying on pulseaudio - is it?
[11:51] <guedressel> it's accessing alsa directly - right?
[11:51] <ktmini> would it bother you to at least answer you have no clue?!
[11:51] <yaa_> which parameter of dpkg lists where to install files of the pakage
[11:51] <yaa_> ?
[11:51] <ktmini> hi yaa
[11:52] <yaa_> ktmini: %)
[11:53] <SandGorgon> anybody using wicd or any alternatives for network manager ?
[11:53] <alarm>  hello, i just updated my ubuntu system to 9.04 which means also that i need to reinstall my nvidia drivers
[11:53] <alarm> trying to reinstall them i get this error : ERROR: If you are using a Linux 2.4 kernel, please make sure you either have configured kernel sources matching your
[11:53] <bazhang> SandGorgon, the command line alternative :)
[11:53] <alarm> kernel or the correct set of kernel headers installed on your system .my new kernel is: 2.6.28-11-generic
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> alarm: have you rebooted to jaunty's kernel?
[11:53] <yaa_> network manager^ the alternative is ifconfig, route add
[11:53] <alarm> ActionParsnip, i guess so, since i did a fully upgrade
[11:54] <alarm> but now i am facing with nvidia drivers reinstallation
[11:54] <alarm> from the nvidia binary
[11:54] <alarm> i get that kernel error during the installation
[11:54] <yaa_> guys
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> alarm: then try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx-180
[11:54] <yaa_> does anybody know about dpkg
[11:54] <redpearl> how to resize my partition, make it smaller, shrink it
[11:54] <alarm> ActionParsnip, i am saying again "i am using the nvidia binary"
[11:54] <SandGorgon> yaa_, bazhang: sigh...
[11:54] <alarm> thats what i had before installed on my system
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> alarm: then you need to reinstall it as the dkms part of the driver will not be done
[11:55] <yaa_> SandGorgon: ?
[11:55] <bazhang> SandGorgon, its not that difficult actually, let me get you a weblink with some basics
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> alarm: if you us the package, it wil have completed that for you
[11:55] <alarm> ActionParsnip,  frankly talking i did not understand what you mean :)
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> *use
[11:55] <alarm> yeah  , but i use the last few years binaries from the website
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alarm: if you use the package, every time you get a new kernel the DKMS compile to create the driver module will be done for you
[11:56] <alarm> dont want to mix up my system now with the nvidia drivers and the deb packages
[11:56] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 SandGorgon here are some basics you may wish to know when you dont have a gui
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alarm: if you start using the one from nvidia.com this will not be done
[11:56] <yaa_> &&&
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alarm: it's the same deal, just more convenient for you
[11:57] <alarm> okie , i can start maybe traying installing the kernel sources
[11:57] <alarm> would this easy to be done ?
[11:57] <yaa_> ?
[11:58] <yaa_> щито
[11:59] <SandGorgon> bazhang: hey thanks... but I would infintely prefer having a nice GUI based wireless manager... i have to get work done u know
[12:07]  * guedressel fixed the sound problem
[12:07] <guedressel> just installed the pulseaudio package and restarted my machine
[12:08] <guedressel> now vlc plays the sound!
[12:08] <Aluno> hello
[12:08] <guedressel> great
[12:08] <guedressel> (whyever i need pulseaudio...)
[12:11] <ahox> Hi, does the kubuntu radeonhd driver already support displayport?
[12:12] <ahox> I have a Radeon HD 3600 and would like to know if I can use multihead
[12:17] <SandGorgon> latest svn konversation for kde4 is really usable - there were some problems with display, tab completion - but now it is very nice
[12:17] <faileas> SandGorgon: was that the one you linked, or is there a new one?
[12:19] <SandGorgon> the one i linked was an older debian repo - it is usable, but has problems with nick completion. an svn build pulled from the source tree fixes all those problems
[12:19] <faileas> nice
[12:19]  * faileas wishes someone would PPA it
[12:19] <eagles0513875> ppa what
[12:19] <eagles0513875> SandGorgon: i heard otherwise in regards to konversation4
[12:20] <SandGorgon> the slightly older debian repo is http://packages.debian.org/experimental/i386/konversation/download
[12:21] <faileas> eagles0513875: konversation-kde4
[12:21]  * faileas is lazy to built it ;p
[12:21] <faileas> *build
[12:21] <eagles0513875> faileas:  ill do it if someone will walk me through it
[12:21] <SandGorgon> eagles0513875: no i think it is pretty nice - konv was anyways much more usable than quassel
[12:21] <drbobb> hello, does anyone know of a fix for konqueror's vanishing statusbar?
[12:21] <eagles0513875> SandGorgon: true but i heard the kde4 port is still rather unstable
[12:22] <faileas> eagles0513875: if i did it myself, i'd use checkinstall, it wouldn't pass debian packageing requirements but... it works
[12:22] <eagles0513875> drbobb: the kde4 version of kde3 version
[12:22] <eagles0513875> faileas: i never packaged anything
[12:22] <drbobb> kde4
[12:22] <eagles0513875> woot uck is working
[12:22] <eagles0513875> drbobb: that could be a bug i have yet to try the kde4 version
[12:22] <drbobb> eagles0513875: i've never seen this problem in kde3
[12:23] <rubinho> i need help in mixing up 2.0 to 5.1 sound can someone please help me
[12:23] <eagles0513875> drbobb: the kde4 version is still under development
[12:23] <faileas> SandGorgon: if you can point me ay how to grab the SVN code, and what prerequisites i need, i could throw together a quick and dirty deb
[12:23] <SandGorgon> eagles0513875: no crashes .. using for two days continuously
[12:23] <eagles0513875> lol faileas ill do it right though
[12:23] <drbobb> eagles0513875: and what is not
[12:23] <rdale> i've just upgraded from kubuntu intrepid to jaunty and my fonts are smaller - does anyone know why that would be?
[12:23] <eagles0513875> drbobb: the kde3 version is still in the repos
[12:23] <drbobb> oh unless you meant to say the kde3 version is no longer developed
[12:24] <faileas> maybe not
[12:24] <eagles0513875> drbobb: its currently being ported to kde4 but the kde3 version of konversation is still in the repos
[12:25] <eagles0513875> drbobb: also if you installed from svn youmight need to update the svn source code and rebuild
[12:25] <tsimpson> eagles0513875: konqueror != konversation
[12:25] <drbobb> eagles0513875: i'm sorry, my question was about konqueror
[12:25] <faileas> SandGorgon: what version you got?
[12:25] <eagles0513875> drbobb: ahhh my bad i understood konversation
[12:25] <eagles0513875> drbobb: apologies
[12:25] <p-f> Am I correct in assuming that everything in /etc/network/if-up.d/ is executed after a connection has been established?
[12:25] <eagles0513875> tsimpson: i misread his question
[12:26] <eagles0513875> faileas: if you dont want to package but have a how to on packaging ill be more then willing to package it for the community
[12:26] <SandGorgon> faileas: just a sec
[12:26] <faileas> eagles0513875 : there's one on the wiki.
[12:26] <faileas> though
[12:26] <faileas> https://launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive/ppa this PPA has it
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> p-f: try it, create a little noddy script with zenity to pop up and say hi
[12:26]  * eagles0513875 keeps fighting with uck
[12:27] <p-f> ActionParsnip: well, I created one with echo none > /sys/class/leds/iwl*/trigger and my leds are still blinking on every packet I receive, so I assume there's a special trick I missed
[12:27] <faileas> eagles0513875: what do you need with uck?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !info uck
[12:27] <eagles0513875> faileas: customizing the iso
[12:27] <p-f> !info stupid led defaults
[12:27] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i know i keep getting build errors
[12:27] <faileas> eagles0513875: ya.. which part of that? ;p
[12:27] <eagles0513875> it changes
[12:28] <eagles0513875> last build it failed on resolv.conf
[12:28] <eagles0513875> trying it again
[12:28]  * faileas has managed to add/remove packages, swap the desktop environment, and possibly add firefox plugins
[12:28] <drbobb> heh made me think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UÇK
[12:29] <eagles0513875> faileas: interesting cuz i dunno why i keep getting these errors
[12:29] <faileas> pastebin em
[12:29] <eagles0513875> well right now im starting this again
[12:29] <eagles0513875> hold on
[12:29] <eagles0513875> unpacking squashfs atm
[12:30] <faileas> afk
[12:30] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:30] <faileas> need to feed the dog
[12:30] <eagles0513875> i wish uck had an irc channel
[12:30] <aapzak> intel graphics users here? I cannot get it working properly, anyone else can?
[12:30] <drbobb> is my memory wrong or did the kde3 konqueror have a menu setting for whether to display the statusbar? the kde4 one seems not to
[12:32] <SandGorgon> faileas: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/159297/ should do the trick if you want to compile
[12:33] <eagles0513875> SandGorgon: hes afk
[12:34] <SandGorgon> eagles0513875: thank god i did a paste :)
[12:34] <eagles0513875> lol ya
[12:35] <p-f> what's the simplest way to change the global keyboard repeat rate?
[12:36] <p-f> kbdrate is only for the console, kde's systemsettings doesn't have a repeat rate entry anymore, xset requires XFree86-Misc, whatever that is.
[12:38] <eagles0513875> faileas: i get an error 32
[12:39] <faileas> SandGorgon: thanks
[12:40] <faileas> eagles0513875:
[12:40] <faileas> hmm.. no idea what that is
[12:40] <SandGorgon> p-f: if you find out, please let me know as well
[12:40] <faileas> SandGorgon: i'll use checkinstal ;p
[12:41] <p-f> SandGorgon: http://blog.crossedstreams.com/?p=12
[12:41] <SandGorgon> faileas: yup that works as well
[12:41] <p-f> SandGorgon: you could also blacklist iwlcore and led_class modules, but I'm not sure if iwlcore is used for anything else
[12:42] <p-f> SandGorgon: oops, I thought you were responding to another thing, nevermind
[12:42] <faileas> ack
[12:42] <p-f> SandGorgon: (unless your leds are also blinking! :) )
[12:42]  * faileas did it on the wrong box, the server, not the build box
[12:42] <SandGorgon> p-f: heh.. no I wanted to know about the repeat rate - I have an ergonomic keyboard and RSI :(
[12:43] <p-f> SandGorgon: apparently you can use xset, but it requires the Xfree-Misc module which I have no idea how to enable because kubuntu's /etc/X11/xorg.conf is completely strange
[12:43] <SandGorgon> p-f: yup... which is why I dont mess with it
[12:43] <SandGorgon> p-f: you could file an enhancement request as well.
[12:44] <p-f> SandGorgon: the "please put it back to what it was" enhancement? :)
[12:44] <faileas> p-f: it empty by default ;p
[12:44] <p-f> faileas: where do I add stuff, then?
[12:45] <SandGorgon> p-f: yup :)
[12:45] <p-f> faileas: if, say, I want to add XFree86-Misc to display
[12:45] <eagles0513875> wow lag spike
[12:46] <trylik> hi i wanted to compile kobby
[12:46] <trylik> what should i write as prefix:
[12:46] <trylik> cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX={prefix}
[12:46] <faileas> p-f: you add it there i think
[12:47] <ederico> hello, can anyone please tell me how do I find my CPU type through the terminal?
[12:48] <faileas> ederico: lshw should tell you all you need to know
[12:48] <SandGorgon> ederico: sudo lshw -sanitize -C CPU
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> faileas: lshw likes sudo (no idea why)
[12:50] <ederico> thanks a lot to all of you, worked great
[12:50] <trylik> ederico cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:50] <p-f> faileas: /etc/X11/xorg.conf has supposedly been deprecated or some such
[12:50] <faileas> ActionParsnip: it makes no difference ;p
[12:50] <trylik> how about that "CMake Error: your CXX compiler: "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" was not found."
[12:51] <SandGorgon> trylik: sudo apt-get install g
[12:51] <SandGorgon> trylik: sudo apt-get install g++
[12:51] <shinoby> nadie ke hable español
[12:51] <shinoby> puro ingles?
[12:52] <trylik> si
[12:52] <trylik> whatever he said
[12:52] <eagles0513875> !es | shinoby
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i know but it says use sudo if you dont, even though the output is identical
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !es
[12:52] <faileas> ActionParsnip: yes ;p
[12:52] <shinoby> pues entre aki sin kerer no fue mi intencion
[12:52] <eagles0513875> shinoby: #kubuntu-es por favor este canale hablar solo ingles por favor
[12:53] <mohan__> hi guys
[12:53] <shinoby> o ke verga lo kiere uno para ayuda y salen con esa mamada fuck you
[12:53] <mohan__> cud someone look at this: http://pastebin.com/m424ff16 and check if there's a network card in there somewhere?
[12:54] <mohan__> my wireless works flawless with 9.04...its the wired thats bothering me..it doesnt appear. :(
[12:54] <gianluca> hello
[12:54] <faileas> mohan__: only wireless seems there
[12:54] <gianluca> i have a problem with audio
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: 05:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[12:54] <gianluca> if i insert a jack of phone
[12:55] <gianluca> don't isolate the speaker
[12:55] <gianluca> can anyone help me?
[12:55] <faileas> gianluca: i'm afriad i don't understand
[12:55] <gianluca> ok
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: is the wired enabled in bios?
[12:55] <gianluca> i have a notebook
[12:55] <gianluca> ok?
[12:55] <mohan__> faileas: not good :(
[12:55] <mohan__> faileas: thanks nyways!
[12:55] <gianluca> in this notebook there is a jack for phone
[12:55] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[12:56] <gianluca> if i play audio song
[12:56] <mohan__> hmm
[12:56] <gianluca> the sound go on the speakers
[12:56] <mohan__> oh yea...
[12:56] <gianluca> if i insert jack phone
[12:56] <eagles0513875> mohan__: give me a sec to look at your pastebin
[12:56] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: hmm..u'r right...i hadnt checked that
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: if you want wired, check its enabled in bios, you may need some bootoptions to make it appear
[12:56] <gianluca> the audio go on the speaker and phone
[12:56] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: thanks so much :)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: also read through   dmesg | less   to see if its being shown
[12:56] <gianluca> i want listen audio onl y in the phone
[12:56] <gianluca> ok?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: as well as    sudo lshw -C network
[12:57] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: hadnt thought of it :)
[12:57] <gianluca> Action?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: what?
[12:57] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: will go try now. thanks!
[12:57] <faileas> gianluca: i think kmix has seperate volume controls for headphone and internal speakers...
[12:57] <faileas> so try there first
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: you have any experience with uck
[12:57] <faileas> ActionParsnip: his laptop's speakers don't mute when he plugs in his headphones
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: none, sorry
[12:58] <eagles0513875> darn
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> faileas: if i had an answer i would have replied ;0
[12:58] <faileas> oh ;p
[12:58] <faileas> gianluca: you might also want to try the channel for your main language
[12:58] <faileas> no offence, but your english is not so good
[12:59] <eagles0513875> !packaging
[12:59] <p-f> faileas: I just tried to add Load "extmod" to the Modules section, but no change - xset still complains about a missing XFree86-Misc
[13:04] <ideapad> hi
[13:04] <eagles0513875> hi ianc
[13:04] <eagles0513875> mt
[13:04] <ideapad> hello everyone
[13:04] <eagles0513875> hi ideapad
[13:04] <ideapad> hi  eagles
[13:05] <ideapad> where are you fron
[13:05] <ideapad> where are you from
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ideapad: this is support, not idle chat
[13:05] <eagles0513875> !ot | ideapad
[13:05] <ideapad> oh  yes
[13:06] <ideapad> my english just so so
[13:06] <ideapad> please forgive me
[13:07] <ideapad> i installed the ubuntu 9.04 DVD
[13:07] <ideapad> then   i   install  the   kde
[13:08] <ideapad> but i can not use the kde desktop
[13:08] <ideapad> why?
[13:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> Is anybody else experiencing Hash Sum Mistmatch when updating packages from ubuntu/kubuntu repositories?
[13:08] <eagles0513875> ideapad: what is your primary language
[13:08] <ideapad> chinese
[13:08] <SandGorgon> ideapad: did u do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' ?
[13:08] <ideapad> i from  china
[13:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> I keep getting those errors and it is starting to get me very angry when it comes time to update my system.
[13:08] <tyfon> ideapad: put /usr/bin/kdm into /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[13:08] <ideapad> yes
[13:09] <ideapad> i did so
[13:09] <eagles0513875> !ch
[13:09] <tyfon> also you have to set the X session to kde in the login window
[13:09] <ideapad>  put /usr/bin/kdm into /etc/X11/default-display-manager?????/
[13:09] <tyfon> its one of the menus there
[13:09] <ideapad> that is all right
[13:09] <tyfon> yes if you do that, the default login window will be kde and not gnome :)
[13:09] <ideapad> i can tech to you
[13:09] <ideapad> haha
[13:09] <SandGorgon> ideapad: ok... at your login screen - you should see a small button below called "sessions". Choose 'KDE' and THEN login
[13:09] <eagles0513875> how can i import my pgp key that i have on launchpad
[13:10] <zoggy> hey guys, is there a kubuntu for kids? (kubuntu not ubuntu). thanks
[13:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> Is anybody else experiencing Hash Sum Mistmatch when updating packages from ubuntu/kubuntu repositories?
[13:10] <ideapad> "restart Xwindows "  what meam
[13:10] <SandGorgon> zoggy: there is a arch based distro called chakra. it is a educational linux based on KDE
[13:11] <ideapad> "restart windows   " what mean?
[13:11] <ideapad> how i do this
[13:11] <eagles0513875> !pgp
[13:11] <trylik> can you take a look at cmake output:
[13:11] <trylik> http://pastebin.com/m58e17701
[13:12] <SandGorgon> ideapad: 1. First logout          2. at your login screen press "sessions" and choose KDE      3. login
[13:12] <ideapad> have any body from china?
[13:12] <ideapad> good
[13:12] <ideapad> then/
[13:12] <ideapad> ?
[13:13] <faileas> !cn
[13:13] <gianluca> action?
[13:13] <zoggy> SandGorgon: thanks!
[13:13] <gianluca> ActionParsnip
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: sup?
[13:13] <eagles0513875> faileas: i have an open pgp key on launchpad how can i download the key onto this pc
[13:14] <gianluca> can you help me?
[13:14] <faileas> eagles0513875: no idea >_>
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: with what?
[13:14] <gianluca> with audio
[13:14] <eagles0513875> doh
[13:14] <gianluca> i have a problem with audio
[13:14] <SandGorgon> trylik: you dont have  LIBINFINITY_INCLUDES and LIBINFINITY_LIBRARY set - this could happen because a) you dont have the "Infinity" library and headers b) cmake expects to supply the location information you can do this via cmake -DLIBINFINITY_INCLUDES=<something> .
[13:14] <gianluca> on kubuntu
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: i was here when you first asked, if I knew i would have advised. I dont know so i cant advise
[13:15] <gianluca> if i insert a jack of phone in the notebook the audio go on the speaker and phone
[13:15] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: any idea how i can import my key from launchpad
[13:15] <gianluca> i want audio only in the phone
[13:15] <trylik> SandGorgon that is output from that libraries :/
[13:15] <gianluca> ok?
[13:15] <eagles0513875> gianluca: are you italian
[13:15] <gianluca> yes
[13:16] <eagles0513875> !it | gianluca
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: i think its safe to say nobody knows right now, try later when there are different users on
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046158
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: like that?
[13:16] <eagles0513875> ty ActionParsnip
[13:16] <SandGorgon> trylik: i think that you missed out a "Q" , libqinfinity vs libinfinity ?
[13:17] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: what im trying to do is import the key that i have uploaded to use and associated with my launchpad account
[13:17] <gianluca> actionparsnip do you have understand my problem?
[13:17] <eagles0513875> gianluca: ask in kubuntu-it
[13:17] <gianluca> why?
[13:18] <eagles0513875> gianluca: you can speak in italian in there bro
[13:18] <gianluca> but i speak a few english
[13:18] <eagles0513875> gianluca: we are struggling to understand you though
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: yes, totally. I just have no advice how to troubleshoot it
[13:18] <gianluca> ok
[13:20] <dev_> hi
[13:20] <eagles0513875> gianluca: to be honest that is strange for me it works out the box for me i dont have that issue
[13:20] <eagles0513875> hi devilsadvocate
[13:20] <eagles0513875> mt
[13:20] <eagles0513875> hi dev_
[13:20] <dev_> only english ? or you speack french?
[13:21] <zoggy> SandGorgon: chakra seems like competition to kubuntu, rather than an educational kid's version of kde?
[13:21] <eagles0513875> !fr | dev_
[13:21] <eagles0513875> dev_: try #kubuntu-fr
[13:22] <dev_> Ok sorry ;)
[13:23] <SandGorgon> zoggy: ooops.. sorry ... it was http://www.edu-nix.org/
[13:23] <rmrfslash> I was all excited to see that I had updates for kubuntu this morning. They were both updates for the updater :-/
[13:23] <rmrfslash> What a friggin' drag.
[13:23] <eagles0513875> rmrfslash: ?
[13:24] <rmrfslash> eagles0513875: ?
[13:24] <zoggy> SandGorgon: thanks a lot. chakra looks interesting though. being on kubuntu, i really miss the rolling releases that were the essence of debian.
[13:24] <eagles0513875> nothing wrong with updates to the updater rmrfslash
[13:24] <zoggy> anyone know of a *buntu derivative focused on kids (that's possibly kde-oriented)
[13:25] <gianluca> actionparsnip if i want installa audio card?
[13:25] <rmrfslash> I was hoping for a barrage of updates for this, that, and the other thing.
[13:25] <faileas> zoggy: not offhand, unless there's a sugar port
[13:25] <rmrfslash> Watching all my bugs disappear.
[13:25] <zoggy> faileas: thanks
[13:25] <gianluca> actionparsnip if i want installa audio card?
[13:25] <tyfon> edubuntu is the only one i know of :p
[13:25] <tyfon> i think skolelinux might be kde but its in norwegian
[13:26] <tyfon> and classroom oriented
[13:26] <zoggy> thanks guys
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: can you define "install"
[13:26] <dbglt> any reason why my sound seems relatively low compared to intrepid?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: software or hardware
[13:26] <dbglt> sound levels just don't go as high anymore, even on max
[13:26] <gianluca> ops
[13:26] <dbglt> I've checked all channels
[13:26] <gianluca> install
[13:27] <gianluca> hardware
[13:27] <gianluca> first and than software
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: ok if you want support for installing pieces of hardware, head over to #hardware
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:27] <gianluca> ok
[13:27] <gianluca> in software?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> "in software" doesnt make sense
[13:28] <gianluca> You need to install the package "libxine1-ffmpeg" manually.
[13:28] <gianluca> ???
[13:28] <gianluca> what means?
[13:29] <gianluca> You need to install the package "libxine1-ffmpeg" manually.
[13:29] <gianluca> what means?
[13:30] <sadara> gianluca: are you a windows user?
[13:30] <eagles0513875> !it | gianluca
[13:31] <gianluca> windows and linux
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[13:31] <sadara> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[13:31] <sadara> ActionParsnip: beat me to it
[13:31] <gianluca> ok thanks
[13:32] <sadara> gianluca:  or if you prefer - > kmenu kpackageit
[13:33] <gianluca> error
[13:34] <gianluca> can i paste?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: use pastebin
[13:34] <sadara> gianluca:  read channel subject
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[13:34] <JuJuBee> I just installed a new network card (Netgear GA311 chipset r8169) but id does not show up.  Can someone assist me?
[13:35] <sadara> JuJuBee: copy output of lspci -v to pastebin
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538448
[13:36] <gianluca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/159336/
[13:36] <gianluca> this is my result
[13:36] <JuJuBee> Hmm, cant do that as the new card not working and the old bit the dust.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: why ae you logged in as root?
[13:37] <eagles0513875> i think im up the creek. i have no revocation key :(
[13:37] <gianluca> it's error?
[13:37] <eagles0513875> to revoke my gpg key :(
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: its a bad idea to log in as root
[13:37] <gianluca> ok
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: very few of us know what that means as it is in italian
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: go  for support in #ubuntu-it
[13:38] <gianluca> understand
[13:38] <gianluca> so don't found libxinel-ffmpeg
[13:38] <gianluca> in englus
[13:39] <gianluca> english
[13:39] <sadara> gianluca: what version ubuntu?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> then you need something that provides it or a repo with it on
[13:39] <gianluca> kubuntu 8.10
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:40] <gianluca> ok
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> should fix a tonne of stuff
[13:41] <eagles0513875> gianluca: please take my advice and ask in the italian channel  since it seems like you are not understanding
[13:41] <gianluca> installing
[13:42] <gianluca> action i have a old repository
[13:43] <gianluca> finish process
[13:43] <gianluca> now?
[13:44] <gianluca> actionparsnip?
[13:45] <sadara> gianluca: should be fixed
[13:45] <gianluca> ok
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> should be ok
[13:45] <rmrfslash> fglrx for 9.04 yet? anyone know?
[13:45] <PROject-Emerald_> Is there a way to tell a program to shut down at a certain time?
[13:46] <eagles0513875> PROject-Emerald: probably through a cron job
[13:46] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: That is not my problem I guess, I cannot se the interface in ifconfig -a but can in lspci -v
[13:46] <JuJuBee> sadara:  It shows in lspci -v but not ifconfig -a
[13:46] <sadara> JuJuBee: That ok, what does it show up as?
[13:47] <sadara> paste the single line here
[13:47] <JuJuBee> Realtek Semiconductor
[13:47] <rmrfslash> PROject-Emerald_: wdym at a certain time? You can use cron or at to schedule tasks.
[13:47] <JuJuBee> I cannot paste anything... no network connection
[13:47] <PROject-Emerald_> Like, I want a bot to shut off at exactly 9:45 AM
[13:48] <eagles0513875> JuJuBee: when you installed jaunty did you have the network cable plugged into the jack
[13:48] <sadara> JuJuBee: do you have kubuntu installed?
[13:48] <sadara> does it show up in knetmanager?
[13:48] <eagles0513875> PROject-Emerald: you need to script it
[13:48] <rmrfslash> PROject-Emerald_: like I said, you can use cron or at to schedule tasks
[13:48] <JuJuBee> sadara: using 8.04 at moment
[13:48] <JuJuBee> kubuntu
[13:49] <rennelch> hi
[13:49] <eagles0513875> JuJuBee: when you install kubuntu when you want the ethernet connection i have found you need to have the cable plugged in
[13:49] <PROject-Emerald_> rmrfslash: How do I do that?
[13:49] <JuJuBee> no, not in knetwork manager.
[13:49] <sadara> JuJuBee: Kubuntu version?
[13:49] <JuJuBee> Kubuntu was installed, working fine.  The onboard lan crapped yesterday.  Put new PCI card in.
[13:49] <JuJuBee> 8.04
[13:50] <theuser1> how can i check do i need ddr 1 ram or ddr2 ram ?
[13:50] <theuser1> how can i check do i need ddr 1 ram or ddr2 ram ?
[13:50] <eagles0513875> JuJuBee: you probably need to insert the module for the card into the kernel
[13:51] <rmrfslash> theuser1: for your motherboard?
[13:51] <sadara> eagles0513875: 8169 should be auto
[13:51] <theuser1> rmrfslash:  ya. how can i check what motherboard i have
[13:51] <eagles0513875> sadara: dunno then
[13:51] <sadara> it's probably udev
[13:51] <JuJuBee> ?
[13:52] <rmrfslash> PROject-Emerald_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[13:52] <p-f> I just upgraded to Jaunty and now get this when running alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[13:52] <JuJuBee> sadara: so what do I do now?
[13:52] <sadara> JuJuBee: this is porbably wrong, but try putting :auto eth1 <newline> and auto eth0
[13:52] <sadara> iface eth0 inet static
[13:52] <p-f> (and no sound)
[13:53] <sadara> in your /etc/network/interfaces
[13:53] <JuJuBee> OK
[13:53]  * SandGorgon is away: Gone away for now
[13:53] <sadara> (eth1 rather than eth0)
[13:53] <rmrfslash> lspci
[13:53] <rmrfslash> woops
[13:53] <sadara> JuJuBee: then sudo ifup eth1
[13:55] <rmrfslash> theuser1: try sifting through sudo dmidecode
[13:55] <sadara> JuJuBee: let me try that again, add: auto eth1 <newline> iface eth1 inet dhcp <newline> to your /etc/network/interfaces
[13:55] <JuJuBee> sadara: ignoring unknow interface eth1-eth1
[13:55] <theuser1> http://pastebin.com/m587b2d9c
[13:55] <JuJuBee> s/-/=/
[13:55] <p-f> aplay -l now returns "aplay: device_list:217: no soundcards found" after upgrading, whee!
[13:55] <sadara> JuJuBee: does the output of lspci -v show Kernel friver in use: line?
[13:56] <p-f> SandGorgon: xset does work, even though it's outputting an error: try xset r rate 200 30
[13:56] <sadara> s/friver/driver
[13:56] <p-f> SandGorgon: first one's the delay, second is the rate
[13:57] <JuJuBee> sadara: in the Realtek section?
[13:57] <p-f> 100 30 makes it more or less decent
[13:57] <sadara> JuJuBee: lspci -v should be run as root (sudo lspci -v)
[13:57] <sadara> JuJuBee: yes
[13:59] <rmrfslash> theuser1: sudo dmidecode --type 17  and look for "Memory Device"
[13:59] <JuJuBee> sadara: sudo lspci -v | grep kernel is empty
[13:59] <rmrfslash> theuser1: should be a "Type:" field
[14:00] <rmrfslash> Of course mine says Type: <OUT OF SPEC> :-/
[14:00] <sadara> JuJuBee: try sudo lspci -v |grep -i kernel
[14:00] <sadara> JuJuBee: grep -i is case insencitive
[14:00] <JuJuBee> nothing
[14:01] <fehrp> knetworkmanager in jaunty does not work here: It does not display any wireless functionality. I think, it may have hardware'ish disabled my wlan card, how can I turn it on again? --> IBM Thinkpad T40p
[14:01] <rmrfslash> fehrp: use the network manager plasmoid
[14:01] <sadara> JuJuBee: I might have a newer lspci than you
[14:02] <sadara> JuJuBee: sudo lsmod |grep 81
[14:02] <fehrp> 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5211 802.11ab NIC (rev 01)
[14:02] <theuser1> http://pastebin.com/m76552d13
[14:02] <rmrfslash> fehrp: be sure to shut off knetworkmanager as the two conflict
[14:02] <fehrp> rmrfslash: okay!
[14:02] <p-f> Sound used to work in 8.10. Now in 9.04, aplay -l gives "no soundcards found" and alsamixer gives snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory. Any ideas?
[14:02] <p-f> fehrp: I encountered the same problem. The only workaround I found was configuring it by hand with wpa_supplicant or using wicd
[14:02] <JuJuBee> sadara: shows the r8169
[14:03] <sadara> p-f: driver issue
[14:03] <p-f> sadara: I sort of guessed that
[14:03] <p-f> sadara: any ideas what kind of driver issue, though?
[14:03] <p-f> what's the typical module for this?
[14:03] <sadara> p-f: nope  :P
[14:03] <sadara> p-f: snd
[14:04] <p-f> sadara: seems to be loaded
[14:04] <fehrp> p-f I used wicd for a long time but thought that with the new release of jaunty they would have fixed such a basic thing as networking, jee was I wrong :)
[14:04] <sadara> JuJuBee: try find /sys |grep eth
[14:04] <p-f> fehrp: haha, your standards are too high
[14:04] <fehrp> p-f: lol
[14:04] <sadara> fehrp: you get what you pay for
[14:05] <JuJuBee> sadara nothing
[14:05] <fehrp> sadara: I pay in time, and I pay a lot...
[14:05] <theuser1> rmrfslash: http://pastebin.com/m76552d13
[14:05] <p-f> 'nothing' would be better than 'wasting 10 hours'
[14:06] <olskolirc> what is the repository link to get the mediabuntu please?
[14:06] <sadara> olskolirc: google
[14:06] <olskolirc> ok sadara
[14:06] <sadara> olskolirc: or rather http://www.google.com/search?q=medibuntu
[14:06] <rmrfslash> theuser1: why are you pasting the results? That's how you find the motherboard and memory info.
[14:07] <sadara> JuJuBee: try sudo rmmod rl8169 ; sudo dmesg -c ; modprobe rl8169 ; dmeg
[14:07] <fehrp> sadara: by the way, in earlier distros, networking worked totally smootly with knetworkmanager, it's just the latest two distros where there seems a little kid to have taken over the development.. or whatever
[14:07]  * SandGorgon is back.
[14:08] <p-f> SandGorgon: read a few pages back :)
[14:08] <fehrp> rmrfslash: you meant plasma-widget-network-manager - KDE plasma applet for controlling NetworkManager
[14:08] <fehrp> ?
[14:08] <p-f> SandGorgon: (or just xset 200 30)
[14:08] <sadara> fehrp: it only doesn't work for ppl who use the gui network managers
[14:08] <fehrp> rmrfslash: that still does only show me the wired connection
[14:08] <SandGorgon> p-f: thanks!
[14:08] <rmrfslash> fehrp: do u have a wireless connection?
[14:08] <JuJuBee> sadara: I have to go teach a class.  be back in about an hour.
[14:08] <sadara> fehrp: I still don't know what was wrong with ifup/ifdown/ifconfig
[14:08] <p-f> SandGorgon: np :)
[14:08] <JuJuBee> Thanks for the assistance thus far.
[14:09] <sadara> JuJuBee: np
[14:10] <fehrp> sadara: so it's their fault? gee, what are you talking?
[14:10] <sadara> fehrp: that's not what i meant
[14:11] <fehrp> rmrfslash: you mean a card that is usually working? yes. A connection like iwconfig xxx working? the node ath0 or wifi0 is indeed not there...
[14:11] <fehrp> so, get madwifi again?
[14:11] <sadara> fehrp: I still use ifconfig/ip for my eth0 on my laptop
[14:11] <rmrfslash> theuser1: you have 1x512MB DIMM of 400MHz SDRAM :D
[14:12] <sadara> fehrp: I don't do it to be l33t, i do it because it works
[14:12] <fehrp> sadara: well if you have the time for that it's okay
[14:12] <theuser1> rmrfslash:  what that. is it ddr 1 or dr2 ?
[14:12] <rmrfslash> fehrp: ifconfig shows wlan0?
[14:12] <fehrp> rmrfslash: no, only eth0 and lo, strangely!
[14:13] <fehrp> rmrfslash: somehow I think, the interface has been kicked out on the upgrade
[14:13] <fehrp> rmrfslash: so it's madwifi fault
[14:13] <tzanger> good morning.. there's a package otu there that fakes enough of an MTA that makes the package system happy... it's not nullmailer, I use that on systems where I actually NEED an MTA but don't want a full one... does anyone know what the package is offhand?
[14:15] <fehrp> hmm, how do I get back my interface :)
[14:15] <fehrp> wlan0/ath0/wifi0 whatever
[14:16] <rmrfslash> fehrp: cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[14:16] <Theseus2> hello, i have noticed a strange behavior of my laptop. I have just installed kubuntu 9.04. If I boot my system with only my Laptop Monitor it increase the font view (but there are still 9pt in the systemsettings). If I then change to my external Monitor the font size is definitely bigger than if I boot with my external Monitor.
[14:16] <rmrfslash> anything in there for wlan0?
[14:16] <fehrp> rmrfslash: # PCI device 0x168c:0x0012 (ath_pci)
[14:16] <fehrp> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:05:4e:41:f1:35", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="ath*", NAME="ath0"
[14:16] <fehrp> # PCI device 0x168c:0x0012 (ath5k_pci)
[14:16] <fehrp> sorry
[14:16] <fehrp> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:05:4e:41:f1:35", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[14:17] <rmrfslash> dude, use pastebin
[14:17] <fehrp> I said sorry
[14:17] <rmrfslash> oh
[14:17] <rmrfslash> :)
[14:17] <pax> Are you having trouble with the wireless in the UNR as well fehrp?
[14:17] <Theseus2> I had the same problem with older Kubuntu versions (8.04, 8.10)
[14:17] <fehrp> pax, yes, the interface athX or wlanX is not in ifconfig or iwconfig, so the module is not loaded
[14:18] <pax> Yeah, I'm having the same problem.  Even a re-install hasn't fixed it, and I'm not sure why.
[14:18] <fehrp> rmrfslash: but the entries show up in the udev rules
[14:18] <rmrfslash> well... it sees somethin
[14:18] <pax> Fairly new to the linux community myself.
[14:18] <fehrp> rmrfslash: of course in that file the eth0 was also in, but I stripped that
[14:19] <rmrfslash> fehrp: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:19] <rmrfslash> u try this?
[14:19] <pax> If this helps, the problems began after I was using Frostwire.  The connections there ended, and then reset, and suddenly, my wireless was disconnected.  I don't know what caused it to reset, or whatever it did.
[14:19] <speedyx> hey guys, do you know if there is a repository with the last kernel 2.6.29 for jaunty?
[14:19] <fehrp> rmrfslash: no such device, also for ath0 not
[14:20] <pax> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[14:20] <rmrfslash> fehrp: I have to admit, I usually cross my fingers when it comes to wireless.
[14:21] <rmrfslash> fehrp: I don't wanna claim to know how to debug this. Personally, I would be googling around
[14:21] <fehrp> rmrfslash: dito... but I mean, I know where it comes from: there are kernel modules ath_hal and ath_pci which are not loaded
[14:21] <pax> I'm wondering why it was working perfectly before, and suddenly stops...  Could it be that whatever interference that occured totally removed all traces of the Wifi device from my computer?
[14:21] <fehrp> but should
[14:22] <rmrfslash> i c
[14:22] <rmrfslash> Can you load them manually w/ modprobe?
[14:22] <fehrp> rmrfslash: let's try
[14:22] <pax> Not at all.
[14:23] <pax> There is no trace on my box for the device(s).  I've tried reinstalling the drivers, tried the wifi tuts, etc.  Nothing seems to work.
[14:23] <fehrp> rmrfslash: pax, it worked:
[14:23] <pax> ?
[14:23] <rmrfslash> :)
[14:23] <pax> Do tell.
[14:23] <rmrfslash> lsmod
[14:23] <rmrfslash> shoudl show they're loaded
[14:23] <fehrp> rmrfslash: pax: use sudo modprobe ath_pci  and also with ath_hal  and then ifconfig ath0 up
[14:24] <rmrfslash> all right, gotta run
[14:24] <pax> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[14:25] <fehrp> pax, do you have an atheros card?
[14:25] <fehrp> pax: lspci  and find out
[14:25] <joaquinz> hi everybody!
[14:25] <pax> kk
[14:25] <pax> command not found?
[14:25] <pax> I'm sorry, I'm fairly new to all of this.
[14:25] <joaquinz> i've trouble with nepomuk/strigi ! does anybody know something about it?
[14:26] <fehrp> pax, you're kidding me? :)
[14:26] <pax> Fehrp - Sadly, no.
[14:27] <fehrp> "lspci" ?
[14:27] <pax> I typed it in and it gave me this.
[14:27] <pax> pax@XIII:~$ ispci
[14:27] <pax> bash: ispci: command not found
[14:27] <pax> pax@XIII:~$
[14:27] <fehrp> small L
[14:27] <joaquinz> i've trouble with nepomuk/strigi ! does anybody know something about it?
[14:28] <pax> -confusion-
[14:28] <fehrp> pax: LSPCI just with small letters
[14:28] <pax> oh
[14:28] <pax> XD
[14:28] <pax> sorry
[14:29] <fehrp> okay, gotta go too now, trying the wlan functionality.
[14:29] <fehrp> brb
[14:30] <pax> Pardon for this huge post, but I'm completely lost...  >.<
[14:30] <pax> pax@XIII:~$ lspci
[14:30] <pax> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[14:30] <pax> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:30] <pax> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:30] <pax> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[14:30] <pax> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
[14:30] <pax> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
[14:30] <pax> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
[14:31] <pax> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
[14:32] <jussi01> !paste | pax
[14:33] <pax> -Holds head-  I am losing my mind...
[14:33] <pax> First the wireless and now my mind...
[14:33] <pax> I'm guessing I'll get ED next...
[14:33] <pax> lol
[14:33] <pax> I didn't see anything in the lspci results for atheros.
[14:34] <pax> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[14:34] <pax> Is this what I should be looking at?
[14:34] <shrinivasan> hi
[14:35] <shrinivasan> kubuntu 9.04 gives me less resolution
[14:35] <shrinivasan> how to increase resolution?
[14:35] <compilerwriter> Did the upgrade to Jaunty early yesterday and so far so good.
[14:35] <pax> Have you googled the problem Shri?
[14:35] <shrinivasan> pax: no proper result
[14:35] <pax> Hmmm...
[14:35] <shrinivasan> it has only vesa mode
[14:35] <pax> Shri - brb I'll see what I can find.
[14:36] <shrinivasan> pax: thanks
[14:36] <shrinivasan> i have GA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
[14:36] <compilerwriter> Since I upgraded I am still using Konversation.  Heck I can't even remember the name of the default irc client that comes with Jaunty now?
[14:37] <shrinivasan> getting only 800x600
[14:37] <Guest15353> VENEZUELAAAA
[14:37] <compilerwriter> shrinivasan you may need to install a specialized driver for the ati card.
[14:37] <shrinivasan> compilerwriter: what package is that?
[14:37] <compilerwriter> I know the I have had the same trouble with my nvidia
[14:37] <compilerwriter> !ati
[14:37] <shrinivasan> compilerwriter: the default irc tool is Quasselirc
[14:37] <pax> Compiler - Thank you -  I was about to say that.  I'm only finding things for Nvidia
[14:38]  * shrinivasan looking
[14:39] <compilerwriter> pax you using quasselirc or Konversation?
[14:39] <pax> Compiler - Konversation
[14:39] <pax> Compiler - Currently trying to restore the wifi capabilities to my Acer Aspire one zg5 - Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[14:39] <compilerwriter> Yes I upgraded and konversation is still on my machine and what I am using now.  I wonder if Quassel got installed but isn't the default for me.
[14:40] <pax> Shrinivasan - I found this site that may help you.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7157996
[14:40] <fehrp> pax: it works
[14:41] <pax> fehrp - welcome back.  :)
[14:41] <shrinivasan> pax: thanks. i am looking that url
[14:41] <SandGorgon> pax: i used to have a lot of trouble with installing windows/linux, etc. with my wireless - i bought an el-cheapo bcm4312/dell1490 and have been happy since
[14:41] <compilerwriter> Good luck on that netbook thing.  I have looked into those little things and am not sure I would be happy with them.  though it might be nice to have in my tow truck for a reference material sort of thing.
[14:41] <fehrp> pax, found out more about your wlan card?
[14:41] <pax> fehrp - Not really.
[14:41] <fehrp> pax, paste your lspci onto pastebin.com and send me the link
[14:42] <yaa_> any zadrot  here?
[14:43] <pax> fehrp - Here you go.  http://pastebin.com/d1ef54943
[14:43] <shrinivasan> pax: no real help on that page
[14:43] <pax> shri - Hmmm...
[14:44] <pax> shri - What is your system specs again?  I'm going to run it through google again.
[14:44] <shrinivasan> pax: ibm thinkpad T41
[14:45] <shrinivasan> pax: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
[14:45] <shrinivasan> pax: 2GB RAM
[14:45] <shrinivasan> pax: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz
[14:45] <fehrp> pax Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[14:46] <shrinivasan> getting only 800x600
[14:46] <SandGorgon> pax: try sudo lshw -sanitize
[14:47] <fehrp> pax: did you already try if it worked with wicd? what does "sudo ifconfig" give you for interfaces?
[14:48] <pax> shri - This is the only site I could find mentioning your specs - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/104470
[14:48] <pax> shri - It suggests it could be a color problem.
[14:48] <pax> Trying that now Sand - brb
[14:48] <nandika> hey
[14:49] <shrinivasan> pax: that is firefox prblem
[14:49] <shrinivasan> pax: i have problem with whole system resoltion
[14:49] <shrinivasan> pax: will this help?
[14:49] <shrinivasan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:51] <pax> shri - I notice it says '9500 or higher' - You said you have a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
[14:51] <pax> Shri - Perhaps it's not supported?
[14:52] <shrinivasan> pax: there is a section for below 9500
[14:52] <shrinivasan> pax: read down
[14:52] <pax> shri - Sorry, I've been up for about 30 hours now.  :D  Excuse my 'out of it' state.
[14:53] <shrinivasan> pax: ok
[14:53] <shrinivasan> pax: take rest dude
[14:53] <pax> Sandgorgon - The last entry says - Network: Disabled - Would this be the problem?  (Still no Atheros btw)
[14:54] <pax> shri - Can't bro.  I have things that need to get fixed.  :)  I'll rest when I fix the problems, and hopefully yours as well.
[14:54] <shrinivasan> pax: well
[14:56] <SandGorgon> pax: yup driver issue - atheros should be the best supported... did u try ndiswrapper ?
[14:57] <pax> Sand - I've been working my way though all of the 'fixes'.  That is one I've seen, but have yet to address.  Where should I start?
[14:58] <kpenrose> Need help desperately - upgrading Intrepid to Jaunty, I think my internet connection hiccuped.  tried apt-get -f upgrade.  reboot drops me to busybox shell in initramfs.  any suggestions?
[14:58] <SandGorgon> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[14:58] <pax> shri - I found this.  It seems to have worked for this guy - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6972928
[14:59] <pax> Sand - Thank you.  brb
[14:59] <wirechief> kpenrose have you tried using the live-cd for recovery ?
[15:00] <SandGorgon> pax: u need ur windows driver (something.inf) for this. then u can do 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf'
[15:00] <kpenrose> wirechiefe:  I have a live cd for intrepid.  Not sure what I should do for recovery though.
[15:00] <shrinivasan> pax: thanks dude
[15:00] <shrinivasan> pax: hope thiw work
[15:01] <shrinivasan> pax: will try now. may be have to restart x
[15:01] <shrinivasan> pax: socatch u a little time later
[15:01] <kpenrose> wirechief:  Is there a recovery option in the install?
[15:01] <SandGorgon> pax: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide/
[15:01] <rocky_fortune> the guide recommends installing windows first before unbuntu. Will it work vice versa?
[15:01] <wirechief> kpenrose: i was going to recommend you connect up with dwidmann for recovery information but he is offline right now.
[15:02] <wirechief> kpenrose: on the live-cd there is a recovery option
[15:03] <wirechief> kpenrose: here is what i would do if i were faced with what you have, i would try the recovery selection with intrepid
[15:03] <pax> Hope it helps shri - :)
[15:03] <wirechief> kpenrose: and it would help knowing where the jaunty is installed which partition
[15:03] <pax> Sand - Not sure where to find that.
[15:04] <pax> Sand - Ran the command you gave me btw.
[15:04] <kpenrose> wirechief: I'm looking at the intrepid live-cd now, and if the boot menu it states that ther is no dedicated rescue mode
[15:04] <SandGorgon> pax: if you just google for "windows xp <your wireless card name>" u should be able to find a zip containing a driver package
[15:05] <kpenrose> but it is possible to use the command line or graphical tools to rescue a broken system
[15:05] <wirechief> kpenrose and then i would use this paste i can give you. to setup a mountpoint and once you get it all setup do apt-get -f install
[15:05] <pax> Sand - Alright.  Once I have the driver in question...?
[15:05] <wirechief> kpenrose: hopefully that will recover the missing
[15:06] <SandGorgon> pax: then u can do 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf'
[15:06] <pax> Sand - Ah!  Thank you.  :)  I'll get right on that.
[15:06] <kpenrose> wirechief:  Since I was in the middle of a jaunty upgrade, should I get a jaunty cd first?
[15:06] <wirechief> kpenrose: well its a live-cd that still would work
[15:07] <White_Pelican> in kde 4.2, how do I tell gwenview to display hidden files?
[15:07] <kpenrose> This is the last time I try to do an upgrade when I'm in the middle of a project for a client.
[15:07] <wirechief> kpenrose you would basically be inside that install and using apt-get -f install to recover thats what the chroot allows you to do.
[15:08] <wirechief> kpenrose: but you need to have it setup first i have it in some notes i can paste for you to look at.
[15:08] <karamella> hi to all
[15:08] <kpenrose> wirechief:  that would be most appreciated.
[15:09] <karamella> if i need to shrrade any file or termeinate from the computer how can i find this tool?
[15:09] <wirechief> !paste
[15:10] <karamella> if i need to shrrade any file or termeinate from the computer how can i find this tool?
[15:12] <karamella> thire is no  software sherading files?
[15:12] <genii> What is wherade/shrrade    ?
[15:13] <bazhang> karamella, shred?
[15:13] <karamella> yaa
[15:14] <White_Pelican> in kde 4.2, how do I tell gwenview to display hidden files?
[15:14] <karamella> means removing files from any where
[15:15] <bazhang> karamella, in konsole type shred --help for more info
[15:16] <karamella> thnks
[15:17] <bazhang> karamella, you are welcome
[15:17] <wirechief> kpenrose: good luck.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/159399/
[15:18] <marco76> Hi. I've installed ubuntu-restricted extras and now I have flash. the problem is that there is no sound. Any solution?
[15:19] <wirechief> marco76: if you dont get help you can try the #alsa channel for help with sound
[15:19] <pax> Sand - Welcome back -
[15:19] <drbobb> hello, does anyone know of a fix for konqueror's vanishing statusbar?
[15:20] <pax> Sand - What is the command to be Super User?  I need it to copy the file into the directory.
[15:20] <drbobb> asking again, never got any reply
[15:20] <marco76> i have sound. the only problem is with flash. when i run a video from youtube, for example, there is no sound
[15:20] <kpenrose> wirechief:  thanks
[15:20] <pax> Drbobb - Is it anything like firefox?  You can change that in the View tab.
[15:20] <wirechief> kpenrose:  well when you get to where you think you have it , dont forget to umount the mount point
[15:21] <drbobb> pax: afaics you cannot
[15:21] <kpenrose> wirechief:  thanks again
[15:21] <pax> drbobb - Sorry.  Haven't used it before.  Seems like that would be a simple fix.  lol
[15:21] <wirechief> kpenrose: you might want to copy/paste that stuff to someplace where you wont lose it with a reboot.
[15:22] <kpenrose> wirechief:  gotcha
[15:22] <marco76> btw caracters displayed by konqueror are much much better then those displayed by firefox
[15:22] <drbobb> marco76: i'd try installing Kubuntu-restricted-extras (assuming you use KDE)
[15:22] <pax> kpenrose - I set up a part of my harddrive as a back up - I put everything I don't want erased there and every install of any OS automatically over looks it, or I can select to keep it As Is.  G-Parted works great.
[15:23] <kpenrose> wirechief:  one more question:  my install had /tmp and /var and / and /home and /opt all on different partitions.  can chroot deal with that?
[15:23] <noren_> hi all
[15:23] <wirechief> pax good idea
[15:23] <marco76> drbobb, i installed kubuntu-resticted-extras
[15:23] <pax> wire - Thank you.  I reinstall my OS about 3 times a week.  lol  I have to keep my good files somehow.  XD
[15:23] <wirechief> kpenrose: i dont know, what i had worked for putting grub on, there might be a need for /etc
[15:23] <drbobb> uh you skipped the K when you said so, I think
[15:24] <marco76> you're right
[15:24] <wirechief> kpenrose: start with as few as you can . less to unmount when done.
[15:24] <drbobb> marco76: they are not the same (but do not conflict)
[15:24] <wirechief> kpenrose: i am sure it will need /etc thats where the sources.list is so it can do the upgradeing and updating
[15:25] <pax> Question :  I'm trying to copy a file into the sbin directory, but the permission isn't set for me to do so.  Is there a way around this?
[15:25] <dwidmann> !sudo | pax
[15:25] <drbobb> pax: 1. you should have a good reason, 2. sudo cp ...
[15:25] <wirechief> dwidmann can you give kpenrose suggestions for a broken upgrade
[15:26] <wirechief> dwidmann: great
[15:26] <dwidmann> wirechief: maybe, let me scroll up
[15:26] <pax> drbobb - I'm trying to fix my wireless, but I have to copy the window driver into the sbin directory.
[15:26] <pax> windows*
[15:26] <wirechief> dwidmann this is what i gave him to start with http://paste.ubuntu.com/159399/
[15:26] <dwidmann> kpenrose, yes, it can deal with all of those, however, you'll have to manually mount all of them in the right places
[15:27] <wirechief> dwidmann: i think he will need /etc too
[15:27] <dwidmann> wirechief: definitely
[15:27] <dwidmann> kpenrose: in addition, you'll probably need to mount sys, proc, and tmp
[15:28] <pax> I know about using Sudo -i, etc in the Console, but what I can't seem to figure out is how to copy despite the permission being denied.  >.<
[15:28] <dwidmann> kpenrose: mount -t proc /target/proc; mount -t sysfs sysfs; mount --bind /tmp /target/tmp
[15:28] <kpenrose> dwidmann:  what is the chroot command then?  do I do one on each mount point?
[15:29] <pax> Wait...    I'll brb - I think I can extract to that folder.
[15:29] <dwidmann> kpenrose: lets say for example your root is /dev/sda5 and you want to mount the filesystem on /target, it would be /dev/sda5 to /target then, for your /usr you'd need to mount, lets say, /dev/sda6 to /target/usr ... and so on ... you'll have to mount them all like that
[15:30] <dwidmann> kpenrose: then, afterwards, the chroot command will be the same as always
[15:30] <drbobb> pax: sudo cp filename /sbin
[15:31] <kpenrose> dwidmann: okay, got that.  Then do I do the dist-upgrade first or the grub fix?
[15:31] <drbobb> pax: but be sure you know _why_ you want to do that
[15:32] <pax> drbobb - Thank you.  :)  I know why I need to.  The wireless for my AA1 was castrated, and I'm trying to fix it.
[15:32] <dwidmann> kpenrose: oh, and like I said, don't forget to do the /tmp, /sys, and /proc or you probably won't have much luck ... then just go on about your business and dist-upgrade or whatever it is you need to do, yeah.
[15:32] <SandGorgon__> pax: done with the wireless?
[15:32] <drbobb> pax: be aware that cp overwrites silently
[15:33] <dwidmann> drbobb: then perhaps we should be handing out cp -i :)
[15:33] <drbobb> dwidmann: bah, I don't want another default I'll need to change as soon as done installing
[15:33] <pax> Sand - Still working on it.  Got hung up on the permission trying to copy it to the directory.
[15:34] <wirechief> dwidmann:  is he going to have to mount "all" subdirectories for dist-upgrade ? (seems logical but) would mounting say just / do the same ? or no?
[15:34] <drbobb> the first thing I always do after an install when the window system is working, is change click-to-focus to focus-follows-mouse (as it should be ;-)
[15:35] <drbobb> (and that includes mswindows)
[15:35] <jpedroza> Good morning. I am having an issue with the new network management plasmoid. I can see my mobile broadband interface, but if I create a connection, I don't see the option to connect. The plasmoids reports that the serial port is disconnected.
[15:35] <dwidmann> wirechief: yes, he'll need to mount all of the subdirectories that are on separate partitions, plus the special ones sys tmp and proc
[15:36]  * wirechief falls over
[15:36] <wirechief> dwidmann: now i know why i have a backup ...
[15:37] <pax> It says the driver is already installed.  O.o     Wth...?
[15:37] <dwidmann> wirechief: what's worse, he might need to additionally mount --bind his /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts too
[15:37]  * wirechief (shakes head, rolls eyes)
[15:38] <compilerwriter> drbobb that is why so many people have cp aliased to cp -i
[15:38] <aapzak> I'm wondering how much memory X takes from other Intel gfx users? ps -p `pgrep X` -o rssize --noheader
[15:39] <wirechief> dwidmann: well reinstalling grub was a good use of the chroot process but i am thinking a du is really extreme, perhaps better to get a jaunty live-cd
[15:39] <drbobb> compilerwriter: which I frankly think is silly
[15:39] <pax> I'm going to reboot and see if anything has changed.  I'll return shortly.
[15:40] <compilerwriter> It may be silly drbobb but it does keep people from accidently clobbering things with no warning.
[15:40] <aapzak> my X is 237532 at the moment
[15:40] <wirechief> dwidmann: the live-cd on media would be a good recovery tool later
[15:41] <drbobb> "I wish life had an undo button" ;-)
[15:41] <compilerwriter> drbobb but if one is worried about that one could just set the environmental variable noclobber couldn't one?
[15:41] <dwidmann> wirechief: I've got an even better one floating around somewhere in here ... SysRescue linux 0.4
[15:41] <drbobb> compilerwriter: I am not the one that's worried, I just said one should be aware of that
[15:42] <devilsadvocate> aapzak: 135120
[15:42] <wirechief> dwidmann: i have the latest version too. but having dd an image to my usb drive was a good idea, i got everything back.
[15:42] <aapzak> devilsadvocate: are you on intel graphics, KDE and compositing?
[15:43] <devilsadvocate> aapzak: it is taking 54 %cpu though :P
[15:43] <devilsadvocate> aapzak: yes
[15:43] <aapzak> devilsadvocate: thats a lot of cpu
[15:43]  * wirechief gotta go rescue a penquin out of a tree
[15:44] <devilsadvocate> aapzak: tell me about it. its actually gone down for some explainable reason. used to be 80
[15:44] <aapzak> I'm using the 2.4.1 driver ATM but memoryload still scares me
[15:44] <compilerwriter> well drbobb there are those of us who have to work with people who should not be allowed to use a computer.  They must be protected from themselves, lest they cause the rest of us to pull out what is left of our hair.
[15:45] <dwidmann> compilerwriter: you couldn't have said that any better
[15:46] <wirechief> lol @ compilerwriter
[15:46] <faileas> right, konversation svn is compiled and built ;p
[15:46] <drbobb> compilerwriter: those people ought to be given managed thin clients
[15:48] <pax> I'm back again.  Rebooted - No luck.  Not sure about this ndisWrapper thing...  (I.E:  I can't brain today... I think I have the dumb)
[15:49] <dwidmann> drbobb: that would be nice, but that's not reality