[00:00] <cosmic303> this is sure the strangest thing i ever had..ill just backup my data and do a fresh install...
[00:00] <avihay> drakon: do you know your way around VI?
[00:00] <CupofDice> anyone have a link to what is supposed to be in sources.list on 64 bit Karma? upgrade didn't add anything
[00:00] <drakon> Not really
[00:01] <avihay> you can replace vi in the line above with nano. ctrl+x to exit, will ask you if you want to save changes
[00:02] <avihay> ok you can use a gui editor
[00:06] <callnett> hello guys, i need your help. how can i made update from ubuntu 9.10 beta ?
[00:07] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, just update normally
[00:08] <callnett> just tell me how please
[00:08] <callnett> i dont find the update manager
[00:10] <MrDarkUser> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, it crashed X but at least gave me prompts enough to get back up
[00:10] <MrDarkUser> callnett: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ?
[00:10] <MrDarkUser> callnett: if you use a graphical manager, it should tell you an update is available
[00:13] <cosmic303> ok..just googled for a bit, and it really seems like the monitor just gave up...nothin to do with the update...
[00:14] <cosmic303> finally a reason to buy a 22" widescreen i guess..lol
[00:14] <ajohnsen> hi, after upgrade some gtk-programs have started to be rendered a bit weird. text and stuff like that, dissapearing. is this a known problem?
[00:14] <cosmic303> thx for the help anyway :)
[00:19] <callnett> MrDarkUser: sorry but i didn't find
[00:20] <Dragnslcr> callnett- if you've been using a pre-release version of 9.10, you're already using the 9.10 repositories. You can update all of your packages the same way you would normally update, such as using KPackageKit
[00:21] <ajohnsen> argh, gtk is totally broken :(
[00:24] <callnett> MrDarkUser: i dont know what i'm using or how can i made this update, sorry but i'm new here
[00:25] <mofux> aaaah, help
[00:26] <mofux> upgrading my kubuntu caused a crash (in kdesudo) while installing
[00:26] <mofux> now nothing is working :(
[00:26] <mofux> i could not restart the installation because there were some files missing
[00:26] <mofux> pygtk or something
[00:27] <mofux> apt-get did not work due to a lock
[00:27] <mofux> so i did a reboot
[00:27] <mofux> and now *bang*... it hangs when trying to mount my disks
[00:33] <mofux> :X
[00:34] <Ahmuck> mofux: use aptitude
[00:34] <mofux> i don't get that far :(
[00:34] <Ahmuck> mofux: u can unlock apt-get
[00:34] <mofux> i tried to start in recovery mode
[00:35] <mofux> but mounting my windows drives makes it hang
[00:35] <mofux> no clue why
[00:35] <mofux> i think it has installed a few packages already
[00:35] <mofux> and removed some others
[00:35] <Ahmuck> so ur in kubuntu and your unable to mount your windows drive?
[00:35] <mofux> and then it crashed an everything is messed up :-/
[00:35] <Ahmuck> what is the state of your system currently?
[00:35] <mofux> no, i'm in osx right now
[00:35] <ajohnsen> mofux: so it's really early in the boot-process it hangs?
[00:35] <mofux> kubuntu doesn't boot up
[00:36] <mofux> yup
[00:36] <mofux> really early
[00:36] <mofux> when it tries to automount my partitions
[00:36] <ajohnsen> mofux: can you access your linux drive from osx?
[00:36] <mofux> yes, i think so
[00:37] <ajohnsen> You can try and edit /etc/fstab to not mount the windows drive
[00:38] <mofux> ok, i'll try
[00:38] <mofux> what can i do to "resume" the dist upgrade?
[00:38] <mofux> simply aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[00:38] <Dragnslcr> Probably
[00:38] <ajohnsen> mofux: yeah, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu
[00:39] <Dragnslcr> You can check your apt sources to see if they've already been switched to karmic
[00:39] <ajohnsen> mofux: in the bottom of the page, there is a small guite on how to continue
[00:39] <callnett> hello guys, i need your help. how can i made update from ubuntu 9.10 beta ?
[00:40] <ajohnsen> callnett: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:40] <len> Anyone else having problems with xorg stability in 9.10?  The open source ati driver is not working well for me.
[00:40] <Dragnslcr> callnett- just update normally through KPackageKit
[00:40] <mofux> ajohnsen: thx, i'll try and report back
[00:41] <callnett> Dragnslcr: thanks but where can i find Kpackage kit
[00:42] <ajohnsen> callnett: alt-f2 and type kpackage kit
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> callnett- K Menu -> Applications -> System
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> callnett- or start typing "kpackagekit" in the search box of the menu
[00:44] <kebomix> i installed ATI driver from this command "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" , , but still can't enable effects ?
[00:44] <callnett> Dragnslcr: kpackagekit not a file or directory
[00:45] <callnett> Dragnslcr: i got this message
[00:45] <Byron> Is plasma-netbook supposed to be on top of the KDE desktop?
[00:45] <Dragnslcr> callnett- where did you get that?
[00:45] <callnett> Dragnslcr: alt-f2
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> callnett- that's not what I told you to do
[00:46] <callnett> Dragnslcr: sorry
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> callnett- K Menu -> Applications -> System
[00:46] <cpdstudio> test
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> callnett- or start typing "kpackagekit" in the search box of the menu. After "kp", kpackagekit should be the only thing you see
[00:51] <buckethead> I've managed to screw something up.. I don't have tab completion in apt-get anymore, what did I screw up?
[00:58] <denali> What do you do if update-notifier-kde crashes during install and it won't restart?
[01:02] <denali> Anyone?
[01:02] <callnett> Dragnslcr: now is downoading 308 updates, 3 bug fix updates, 9 security updates, 11 blocked updates
[01:03] <callnett> Dragnslcr: is that all right?
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> callnett- sounds about right
[01:03] <callnett> Dragnslcr: ok
[01:04] <Ahmuck> congratulations to the kubuntu team.  this release is right on the money.
[01:04] <alid> I accidentally removed a bunch of packages from my kubuntu 9.10 and now I am unable to play any multimedia files. Is there anyway to recover it? I really can't reinstall it. Any ideas?
[01:04] <Ahmuck> i'm very happy with the upgrade.  more than usually happy
[01:05] <Ahmuck> alid, what multimedia packages?
[01:05] <Ahmuck> alid, and what media are you wanting to play
[01:05] <alid> Ahmuck: libavcodec52 and libavformat52 and all their dependencies.
[01:06] <Ahmuck> r u familiar with the command line?
[01:06] <alid> Ahmuck: Now none of my media files are being played anymore. From mp3 to avi, etc.
[01:06] <alid> Ahmuck: Yes. Sort of.
[01:07] <denali> Can someone tell me how to finish an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 when update-notifier-kde crashes and won't restart?
[01:08] <Ahmuck> open a terminal and then type "sudo aptitude install libavcodec52 libavformat52"
[01:08] <claydoh> denali: where did it crash? during downloading of packages?
[01:09] <Ahmuck> alid:
[01:09] <claydoh> denali: or somewhere else?
[01:09] <denali> claydoh: During installing the packages.  It died at 88% while setting up CUPS.
[01:09] <claydoh> denali: try running this from a terminal:
[01:10] <Ev0luti0n_> OMFG
[01:10] <claydoh> denali: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:10] <Ev0luti0n_> what happened to the shoutcast icon on amarok? is it gone, shoutcast radio listing directly through amarok?
[01:10] <Ahmuck> denali: is it still running?
[01:11] <Ahmuck> cups will open a dialog asking if you want to overwrite your custom cups configuration
[01:11] <claydoh> denali: that should make all the downloaded packages install
[01:11] <denali> claydoh:  It says database is locked.
[01:12] <claydoh> denali: hmm
[01:12] <denali> Ahmuck: No, but I think it may have a python script running.
[01:12]  * claydoh thinks.... and it hurts to  do so :/
[01:13] <claydoh> denali: does theerror message specfy a file?
[01:13] <denali> claydoh: No.
[01:14] <Yamiko> Installing the flgrx proprietary ATI driver under Karmic is making kwin crash repeatedly upon boot; without it, my graphics card runs WAY too hot, I found under Jaunty. How do I a) get it to the point where I can do anything (some kind of safe mode?) and b) is there some other driver I should be using?
[01:15] <denali> claydoh: Ok, I found the stuck task and killed it.  I'm trying your idea now.
[01:15] <claydoh> denali: good, i was looking for what it would be
[01:18] <denali> What version of Open Office does 9.10 have?
[01:19] <JontheEchidna> denali: 3.1.1
[01:19] <MrDarkUser> my wpa stopped working after upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04
[01:19] <denali> JontheEchidna: Ok, ty.
[01:21] <alid> Ahmuck: I did it and could retrieve those two packages back. But still I am unable to play any media file.
[01:22] <ptc> In KDE, the application khotkeys offers a feature so I can bind a key shortcut to type out a string (e.g: when I press Win+H it types out "http://") ...Is there any similar application in Gnome?
[01:22] <Ahmuck> alid: what multimedia packages do you have installed?
[01:23] <alid> Ahmuck: I didn't install any packages. I just removed those two as well as all their dependencies.
[01:24] <alid> Ahmuck: Then I apt-get install those two, but no other dependencies got installed.
[01:24] <denali> claydoh: Ok, that finished.  What should I do next?
[01:24] <Ahmuck> alid: ok, i understand
[01:24] <Ahmuck> alid: ur on 9.10 correct?
[01:25] <alid> Ahmuck: Yes.
[01:25] <claydoh> denali: you should just have to reboot
[01:25] <Ahmuck> so, you want from a command line, "sudo aptitude install amarok dragon k3b"
[01:25] <denali> claydoh: Okie, I wasn't sure.  I couldn't remember if there was a step between setup packages and reboot.
[01:26] <Ahmuck> alid: and you may want vlc
[01:26] <claydoh> denali: you could  try running the updater again
[01:26] <Yamiko> I need to revert video drivers. How do I get into recovery mode? hitting escape and clicking "failsafe" under settings both won't let me log in at the login screen. Can I get into a prompt or something not requiring the video drivers?
[01:26] <denali> claydoh: I'm going to reboot now.  BRB :D
[01:26] <Ahmuck> alid: so, in short, "sudo aptitude install amarok dragon k3b vlc"
[01:26] <alid> Ahmuck: I already have it. It doesn't work though.
[01:26] <Ahmuck> alid: you have vlc?
[01:27] <alid> Ahmuck: Yes, I do.
[01:27] <alid> Ahmuck: The problem is not with applications. It is because of lack of some fundamental underlying codec modules.
[01:27] <alid> That is why I am going to repair my installation.
[01:28] <Ahmuck> k
[01:35] <callnett> THANK FOR EVERYONE WHO HELPS ME TO UPLOAD THE NEW VERSION OF UBUNTU, IT WORKS FINE, THANKS AGAIN
[01:37] <Nerdz> Hello
[01:38] <Nerdz> Is anyone else having problems with Firefox and Youtube Videos? I get video but no sound
[01:39] <paul___> I get that problem sometimes too
[01:40] <paul___> I reload my sound drivers and it works
[01:40] <paul___> try
[01:40] <paul___> alsa reload
[01:40] <paul___> or
[01:40] <paul___> alsa force-reload
[01:40] <Nerdz> Audio Works though
[01:40] <Nerdz> In Amarok
[01:40] <Nerdz> (I just upgraded to 9.10 today btw)
[01:40] <paul___> yeah same thing
[01:40] <Nerdz> Usually removing pulse audio works, but I dont seem to have that option
[01:41] <paul___> I can listen to music, but for some reason, it messes up if its flash
[01:41] <Nerdz> Oh wait, nvm, Pulseaudio IS installed
[01:41] <Nerdz> Purging now
[01:42] <Nerdz> brb lets see if that works
[01:42] <Yamiko> Is there a way to change the video drivers on my Karmic install when I've booted from the install disk?
[01:42] <paul___> anyone know any fortran ?
[01:44] <RussellAlan> hey guys
[01:46] <wojtek> hello, I've got a problem with grub - id error 15, I don't have dual boot (only kubuntu on my hdd)
[01:46] <wojtek> can anyone help me?
[01:48] <noth> I'm having an issue with koqueror and firefox not opening a new window from a flash dialog. Typical solution of adding to an exception list not working. Any ideas?
[01:50] <Nerdz> I got it to work
[01:50] <Nerdz> Pulse Audio FAILS
[01:51] <paul___> yeah strange
[01:51] <Nerdz> had to sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[01:52] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[01:53] <cloudsynth> akonadi is broken in 9.10? I did a fresh install and it doesn't pick up kopete. is anyone else experiencing this?
[01:54] <Ahmuck> hi.  i have a black desktop background, and used to have white letters.  now the lettering is white fuzzy, like ghosts, and hard to read
[01:55] <Joelito> hi all, question: Where's the autologin in kubuntu karmic?
[01:55] <Ahmuck> Joelito: yes
[01:56] <Joelito> Ahmuck: Do you know where is it? :\
[01:58] <Ahmuck> yes, i do, however you've left
[01:58] <noth> cloudsynth: I am running the netbook version and had to install mysql-akonadi as well and still had errors... so I can confirm this
[01:58] <Ahmuck> system settings, system, login manager
[01:59] <Ahmuck> what is akonadi?
[01:59] <cloudsynth> Ahmuck: a notification program
[02:00] <cloudsynth> noth: yeah, but that's the netbook tech demo, it's not /required/ to work
[02:00] <Ahmuck> what does it notify?  i noticed there were like 2 notification programs?
[02:01] <Ahmuck> at first i thought it was a backup program
[02:02] <Yamiko> So now I can't log in at all. Can someone help me figure this out? I put in my password, a window pops up and vanishes too fast to see, and then it dumps me at the login prompt again. Using Karmic.
[02:05] <ASrock> how do i configure my virtual desktops to only show the applications on the panel in the workspace they are in
[02:06] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[02:08] <secleinteer> when i try to activate fglrx using the "hardware drivers" app, it crashes. so i instead manually installed xorg-driver-fglrx. when i restarted, kwin kept crashing. is there something i need to do other than just installing that package (and its dependencies)?
[02:10] <Yamiko> secleinteer: My research indicates that fglrx doesn't work under Karmic yet. Try ctrl-alt-f1 from the login prompt to get a command prompt, then  aptitude purge xorg-driver-fglrx && dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to uninstall so you can get your desktop back. From there... I'm still searching for an alternate solution.
[02:12] <secleinteer> Yamiko: that's too bad. i would use radeonhd, but it doesn't support hdmi audio output for my chipset. do you know what is causing this incompatibility with karmic? from what i understand, karmic is running 2.6.31. fglrx works just fine with my 2.6.30 gentoo system, so was the problem created when going from 30 to 31?
[02:12] <marion> hello!
[02:13] <Yamiko> secleinteer: I have no idea. But I came in here for the exact same issue and have yet to receive any response in here, so all I know is what I found through googling for the past horu
[02:13] <Yamiko> *hour
[02:13] <marion> I installed Kubuntu 9.04 and ran into the Intel graphic driver problem
[02:13] <marion> does anyone know if that's been fixed in 9.10?
[02:13] <JJman6> why won't su authenticate for me!  I use same pw for sudo all the time
[02:14] <marion> you have to do sudo passwd in a console first
[02:14] <secleinteer> Yamiko: i just found this "There is an unofficial 'ubuntu' preview-version of fglrx 9.10 which is said to be working with 2.6.31." <-- should be working with 9.10, do you know if karmic is maybe still using 9.9?
[02:15] <Yamiko> secleinteer: I have no idea. Where did you find that? I can try it out >.>
[02:15] <secleinteer> Yamiko: nvm that page, found the official announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/2009-September/008022.html
[02:15] <JJman6> coo,  anyone know what default pw for postgresql install is
[02:15] <secleinteer> Yamiko: "Provide support for 2.6.31 kernel"
[02:16] <JJman6> nm
[02:16] <secleinteer> Yamiko: and 8.660 is indeed the current version in karmic. what card do you have?
[02:17] <secleinteer> Yamiko: mine is the hd 4350
[02:17] <xxx001> 9.10 seems buggy
[02:18] <ep> 9.04 seemed buggy
[02:18] <Yamiko> secleinteer: HD 3650. I discovered under Jaunty that my GPU runs hot without the proprietary drivers, was my main concern.   But we'll get  through these bad times
[02:20] <secleinteer> Yamiko: ah, i have a thinkpad t400, and it's running just fine with a 3450, 2.6.30 (gentoo), and fglrx 9.10. it must be an ubuntu-specific problem
[02:20] <xxx001> the video is really bad
[02:20] <secleinteer> Yamiko: maybe you should give gentoo a whirl ;)
[02:21] <xxx001> so it's possible to have an issue with ubuntu and not kubuntu
[02:21] <xxx001> I just bought a machine today and it's been a huge mess trying to get ubuntu on it
[02:22] <Yamiko> secleinteer: wouldn't surprise me, but I'd prefer not switching too much in the middle of midterms. Any ideas on how to get my GPU to run better under something that won't crash Karmic?
[02:26] <kosmic> Anybody running on the Karmic Koala Kubuntu also known as KKK
[02:27] <Yamiko> for the moment. Debating switching to Win7 >.>
[02:27] <kosmic> What whay
[02:27] <kosmic> What whay+
[02:28] <kosmic> does KKK suck?
[02:28] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[02:28] <Yamiko> driver issues. I can't in good concience let my GPU run as hot as it gets without the proprietary drivers and the proprietary drivers don't work under karmic, and jaunty was buggy as hell for me.
[02:31] <kosmic> i dont even hae a gpu
[02:32] <Yamiko> my video card, dude
[02:37] <secleinteer> Yamiko: you can try just going back to jaunty
[02:41] <Yamiko> secleinteer: jaunty had a bunch of issues for me too, which is why I switched so fast :/
[02:42] <VivaVista> I downloaded the new kubuntu, I tried running it through autoplay (WUBI) and I pressed Demon and Installation and its not doing anything...
[02:42] <VivaVista> Demo*
[02:43] <ep> I like it better than jaunty so far.   Knock on wood.
[02:43] <VivaVista> Any ideas? :/
[02:43] <secleinteer> Yamiko: have you tried radeonhd?
[02:45] <rj_> why the karmic koala iso won't fit into a standard 700MB CD???
[02:45] <rj_> why the karmic koala iso won't fit into a standard 700MB CD?????????????????
[02:47] <rj_> why the karmic koala iso won't fit into a standard 700MB CD?
[02:47] <rj_> vemos al rato
[02:47] <JJman6> prolly cause your too noob?
[02:49] <Yamiko> rj: Worked for me.
[02:52] <Yamiko> secleinteer: tried a number of things, then I noticed my lap isn't on fire anymore. The GPU cooled itself down at some point, back to safe temps, as a result of something but I'm not sure what. I think I'll stop poking at it >.>
[02:54] <Yamiko> secleinteer: I was in the middle of a list of instructions to move to the "radeon" driver, is that what you're talking about?
[02:54] <rav_> hello. i see that there is an update from jaunty to karmic now. does anyone know if it is worth updating yet?
[02:54] <wsr3193> I upgraded last night, it is ok
[02:55] <wsr3193> Can always update later
[02:55] <rav_> wsr3193: are there particular fixes? in jaunty my webcams don't work, for example
[02:56] <wsr3193> Don't know, haven
[02:56] <wsr3193> have not fooled with it that much, did your cam work in 9.04
[02:57] <high-rez> Do multitouch trackpads work with kubuntu 9.10 ?
[02:58] <rav_> wsr3193: my cams worked in hardy 8.04. stopped working since
[02:58] <wsr3193> Hmm, have you tried to find drivers for your cams
[02:59] <rav_> wsr3193: i checked it's bugged in jaunty, said to be worked on karmic
[03:00] <wsr3193> Sorry, I can
[03:01] <wsr3193> Sorry, I can;t help, you might check in source forge for drivers
[03:02] <rav_> wsr3193: it's reported as a kernel bug, the newer drivers don't help
[03:05] <rav_> does karmic come with kde 4.3?
[03:06] <high-rez> yes
[03:06] <high-rez> 4.3.2
[03:13] <VivaVista> I downloaded the new kubuntu, I tried running it through autoplay (WUBI) and I pressed Demo and Installation and its not doing anything...
[03:16] <MaartenLx> Howdy :)
[03:17] <MaartenLx> is it me, or are the repositories a bit overloaded and thus slow? :P
[03:28] <avihay> MaartenLx: new distribution, it's to be expected
[03:38] <MaartenLx> avihay: yeah thats what I figured.... I started checking my wireless connection, and then downloaded a test file elsewhere and got over 12 Mbps in speed (connection is 15 Mbps) so I figured it must just be busy :P
[04:00] <webbb82> is there any tips addons or ideas on how to speed up plasma  everythin els runs smooth but plasma seems to lag     im on a netbook but dont like the netbook remix
[04:02] <Omar87> Hi all
[04:02] <Omar87> So where can I find the Ubuntu Software Center in Kubuntu?
[04:05] <webbb82> can anyone in here help me install qt 4.6
[04:09] <gabuuzz> hey
[04:10] <webbb82> ok i need libqt   4.6   where can i find this package
[04:10] <gabuuzz> I have just finish a upgrade from kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10, but it don't work anymore...
[04:11] <gabuuzz> when I try to login my account it fail and return to login screen
[04:11] <gabuuzz> what can i do?
[04:12] <buckethead> Try with a new (blank) user account.
[04:13] <buckethead> Alot of problems come from config files that didn't get removed when they should.
[04:13] <gabuuzz> but how can I create the new account?...
[04:14] <buckethead> ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to a konsole, then 'sudo adduser <username>' with the username you want in place of <username>.
[04:14] <gabuuzz> thanx
[04:14] <gabuuzz> I try it and come back if it fail...
[04:16] <Pavel_> anyone here run arora?
[04:16] <webbb82> where can i find libqt perl 4.6
[04:16] <Shaxor> Hello, I can't seem to share folders on my home network or see the other computers on my network And im using Kubuntu 9.10
[04:21] <buckethead> Shaxor: i'm assuming you checked firewall configs? I always forget about them, personally.
[04:22] <Shaxor> Umm how do i go about doing that?
[04:22] <Shaxor> this is my frist time using Kubuntu
[04:22] <dwidmann> hmm, no sound after  upgrading to 9.10 here :(
[04:25] <MaartenLx> I like this Quassel IRC, I never used it before.
[04:26] <Shaxor> Can you tell me how to setup my firewall or even get to it?
[04:28] <Shaxor> Am i the only one who is having problems with network shares?
[04:29] <buckethead> Sorry Shaxor.. I stepped out for a minute. Kubuntu9.10, right?
[04:29] <Shaxor> yes im using Kubuntu9.10
[04:30] <buckethead> Go to a konsole and type 'sudo ufw status'
[04:32] <Shaxor> it says its inactive
[04:33] <buckethead> Ok, so thats not it.. What are you serving with?
[04:33] <gabuuzz> im back
[04:33] <gabuuzz> it don't work
[04:33] <Shaxor> serving with?
[04:35] <buckethead> You were saying you couldn't get to your home server.. what are you serving the files with?
[04:35] <dwidmann> hmm, wait, looks like "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" fixes my problems...
[04:35] <Shaxor> Its not a server, just shared folders on my other two computers
[04:36] <Shaxor> one of them is windows and the other is ubuntu
[04:36] <buckethead> SMB then, i'm guessing.
[04:37] <gabuuzz> when I login, its login like normal and when it init the dashboard it return to login screen
[04:38] <Shaxor> smb??
[04:44] <dwidmann> !samba | Shaxor
[04:45] <Shaxor> umm whats swat?
[04:46] <brady> has anyone had intermittent problems during the download part of the 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade? I know the servers are getting pounded, but I've seen 404 fatal errors and a batch of unauthenticatable (is that a word?) package errors.
[04:47] <MaartenLx> I'm just getting very slow downloads from the repos
[04:47] <brady> I restarted the upgrade process and it's going again (albeit slowly)
[04:49] <brady> the 404 errors were typical "file not found", but it was fatal to the upgrade process
[04:49] <billet75> in the future will there be a new release of 9.10? I can't install it
[04:49] <billet75> I bought the machine today, 9.04 works
[04:50] <dwidmann> billet75: why can't you install it?
[04:50] <brady> why can't you install it?
[04:50] <dwidmann> billet75: (releases are generally pretty much final) ... did you try the alternate cd?
[04:50] <billet75> first it was the intel on graphic, now it hangs during install at disk scan
[04:50] <billet75> alternate cd?
[04:50] <billet75> 32 and 64 tried both
[04:50] <dwidmann> billet75: yes, alternate cd
[04:51] <MaartenLx> there is a text-install alternate cd you can download
[04:51] <billet75> sweet, like solaris
[04:51] <billet75> where is that located at?
[04:51] <MaartenLx> kubuntu.org somewhere ;)
[04:51] <dwidmann> umm, on the download page there should be a checkbox for it
[04:51] <billet75> ok
[04:51] <MaartenLx> it has alternate in the name if you are browsing a mirror.
[04:52] <MaartenLx> I usually tend to use the torrents anyways
[04:52] <promise> who is in irc on a friday night?
[04:52] <dwidmann> Me
[04:52] <billet75> here's the only problem in other dis it was a real pain to get x to work after installing text based
[04:52] <dwidmann> which is odd, because I'm usually still at work at this time of night
[04:52] <promise> ^^
[04:52] <billet75> only thing out this weekend is the COPS\
[04:53] <billet75> :P
[04:53] <MaartenLx> I am! I worked all week, and worked most of last weekend to convert a big network to a new IP scheme.... so I am enjoying my free friday night on the COUCH thank you very much :P
[04:53] <billet75> drinking beer installing ubuntu
[04:54] <billet75> the funny thing is that I have a fairly new laptop and it was easier to install
[04:54] <promise> what do you think about the default server install with no gui?
[04:55] <dwidmann> minimal installs are ummm, minimal
[04:55] <billet75> has anyone install zoneminder on ubuntu?
[04:56] <MaartenLx> I have a fairly new laptop.... I installed the x64 edition of Kubuntu 9.10 last night and it worked just fine.
[04:57] <billet75> hp laptop I have work well, although I had to buy a usb wireless card. the lenovo server I bought today as been a pain
[04:57] <kgeek> billet75: cam security one
[04:57] <billet75> cam security one? software
[04:58] <billet75> I bought a bluecherry.net card
[04:58] <billet75> trying to catch my neighbor they are shady
[04:59] <kgeek> :P
[04:59] <billet75> kgeek: that's kool
[05:00] <kgeek> yaa it is
[05:00] <billet75> I have good cameras, just need good software
[05:01] <MaartenLx> god the repo's are SLOOOW tonight. Understandable why, but still annoying. :P
[05:01] <dwidmann> the US mirror is particularly bad as far as I can tell
[05:02] <billet75> i am 2 minutes from a reboot
[05:02] <dwidmann> Gave me lots of errors
[05:02] <billet75> oh yea, you can stop it and start it again it worked for me from 1 mb to 7
[05:02] <billet75> has anyone do the update?
[05:03] <Bigshot_> why is us mirror so slow?
[05:03] <dwidmann> dunno, but I recommend switching to any other mirror
[05:03] <Bigshot_> how can i change the default mirror
[05:03] <billet75> microsoft is downloading it as well
[05:03] <dwidmann> I've had good luck with anl.gov in the past ... switching to the uk mirror might work sufficiently also
[05:03] <dwidmann> billet75: lol
[05:04] <Bigshot_> billet75: i've got touchscreen laptop so microsoft is the way to go
[05:04] <Bigshot_> but still i am after this linux
[05:05] <billet75> ms is  doing so for their next release]
[05:05] <buckethead> Is anyone working on getting debtorrent in a position to work with dist-upgrade? That would seem to help with alot of these bandwidth issues..
[05:06] <MaartenLx> that would be great yeah....
[05:06] <dwidmann> wouldn't do anything for me ... my connection is allergic to torrents
[05:07] <buckethead> My connection is allergic to speed, but there are a dozen of us here that have/are/will go to karmic.
[05:07] <dwidmann> Yesterday at around 3AM EST the US mirror was doing fairly well though, oddly enough.
[05:08] <buckethead> Its about what, 1 am right now?
[05:08] <dwidmann> yep
[05:09] <dwidmann> I managed to grab about 1500MB in 2.5 hours ... not bad for my connection anyway
[05:10] <dwidmann> most important was that I wasn't crippled by 400, 505, and 506 errors and the like, like when I tried to download a few packages mid-day today
[05:11] <buckethead> I moved to RC when it dropped, so I wasn't really affected.
[05:11] <buckethead> apt-upgrade and then let it run all night.
[05:12] <dwidmann> annoying then about apt-get though is it isn't fault tolerant at all ... after it finishes a run if there were any failures rather than trying again (like it should) it just quits saying there were errors a while ago
[05:12] <buckethead> Yeah, thats a lot of scrolling around. I wish it would at least reprint them again at the end.
[05:14] <hansen> ok, plasma is acting crazy after upgrading to karmic. What can I do? Are there any config files I can remove or something?
[05:14] <buckethead> Silly question.. how would I find packages that are installed but have no installation candidate?
[05:14] <dwidmann> that's an interesting question, I think I'm going to try to find that one out
[05:14] <buckethead> Depends on the flavor of crazy.. blonde crazy or red head crazy? Try renaming your .kde.
[05:15] <eder> hi
[05:16] <hansen> but there is lots of stuff in ~/.kde that I dont want to be without. kmail imap cache for example
[05:17] <hansen> crazy means random crashes, pop up menus at top of screen even though I have the panel at the bottom. graphics errors etc
[05:17] <joseph> you want to get rid of that porn cache though
[05:18] <Bigshot_> hey where can i get the "Air theme" for KDE?
[05:18] <dwidmann> buckethead: I think I'm on to something here.
[05:18] <buckethead> Bigshot_: Is it not shown under desktop settings?
[05:19] <Bigshot_> man this kubuntu is CRAP
[05:19] <Bigshot_> 9.10 is worst ever
[05:19] <Bigshot_> hangs, crashes, narrows
[05:20] <buckethead> I haven't had any issues, except a mouse that didn't want to move.
[05:20] <dwidmann> wow. I just segfaulted yakuake with that one ... hehehe
[05:21] <dwidmann>  I feel proud of myself
[05:21] <buckethead> whoops. I was scared to ask if you were on to something good .. or something bad.
[05:22] <dwidmann> buckethead: I'm on to something good, I'm just not there yet
[05:24] <buckethead> I know, I was teasing.
[05:26] <dwidmann> buckethead: this should be a start, at any rate: clear; for x in `dpkg --list | grep ^ii.*  | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | tr '\n' ' '`; do apt-cache policy $x; done;
[05:26] <dwidmann> I hope.
[05:27] <dwidmann> then again, maybe t hat only searches the cache and is therefore useless?
[05:27] <promise> I feel the world is in danger when the alexa top list is filled with google and cheap porn sites
[05:28] <dwidmann> I feel the world in danger when people take that long to realize that
[05:28] <buckethead> Hm.
[05:29] <promise> the question is what can we do about it? It seems like a real live version of "Idiocracy"
[05:30] <joseph> promise: shoot people?
[05:30] <buckethead> Make better porn.
[05:30] <dwidmann> joseph: think of the lawyers you'll be tried by, if indeed we're following along with the Idiocracy theory :P
[05:30] <buckethead> Wait sorry, that wasn't supposed to be my outside voice.
[05:31] <joseph> heh
[05:33] <dwidmann> Seems like Amarok is actually un-buggy enough for real use again with 2.2. Yay!
[05:34] <buckethead> Yes, I've just recently moved to 2.2 from 1.4.10. MySQL support is still giving me trouble however.
[05:34] <dwidmann> buckethead: external mysql just recently re-appeared. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a perfect re-implementation yet.
[05:36] <dwidmann> But the other normal, basic stuff seems to be functional/not buggy(unlike 2.1.x)
[05:36] <buckethead> ..and I could finally get rid of that effing context  window!
[05:41] <vietred> is there any trading analysis software like "metastock"?
[05:42] <promise> metatrader
[05:42] <dwidmann> vietred: do "apt-cache search stock" and go through the small list that comes up. Maybe you'll see something that will suit
[05:46] <vietred> dwidmann: thanks, I don't know there are a lot of them :D
[05:46] <promise> what sort of socioeconomic system would be needed to be put into place to ensure worldwide system functioning, allowing those who remain sane, to keep their sanity?
[05:47] <dwidmann> promise: sanity is overrated
[05:49] <milandll> hey guys
[05:49] <milandll> can you help me whith wusb54gc wifi usb
[05:50] <dwidmann> have you looked here??
[05:50] <dwidmann> !wifi
[05:50] <milandll> yes
[05:50] <milandll> i try but  i am new to linux
[05:51] <milandll> i gat the driver from ralink
[05:51] <milandll> and installed it
[05:51] <milandll> but notink
[05:52] <Viking667> I've got a Ubuntu update to Karmic going on another machine, how do I use those packages to also update a Kubuntu machine?
[05:56] <dwidmann> all viking667 would have to do would be copy them from /var/cache/apt/archives, of course, but he or she didn't stick around long enough to hear that.
[05:59] <buckethead> dwidmann: debtorrent! heh.
[05:59] <buckethead> Where do kdm logon themes go?
[06:00] <buckethead> google doesn't have much for me. i'll write it up if you point me in the right direction to start..
[06:03] <dwidmann> buckethead: /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/
[06:05] <buckethead> You know how long it would've taken me to figure that out? Thanks.
[06:06] <dwidmann> no prob
[06:46] <promise> I am too
[06:48] <promise> the question I have is, how can you not prevent the agent from taking you over?
[06:54] <promise> why wouldn't neo just work for the system?
[06:57] <promise> im still trying to find out who killed my explorer on my windows box
[06:58] <cipher_> lol
[07:01] <dwidmann> promise: I hear it was a cloak clad penguin with a light sword
[07:01] <promise> alas, walmart here I am
[07:02] <dwidmann> promise: why walmart of all places?
[07:04] <promise> dwidmann:  when two become two, then we are
[07:07] <nick[0]> I haven't read a decent review yet, but I suspect KDE 4.3 is good enough for me to switch back to KDE.  Here's the thing: I really like the Darkroom colour scheme.  Does Kubuntu 9.10 have it?
[07:08] <Infinitas> I've wasted an hour thinking about upgrading kubuntu or switch over gnome.. anyone share the same dilemma? -_-
[07:08] <nick[0]> Infinitas: what ver. of Kubuntu are you running?
[07:08] <Infinitas> Jaunty.
[07:09] <nick[0]> and why are you considering switching to GNOME?
[07:09] <promise> the communication of the bots...
[07:10] <cipher_> got somthing against gnome nick?   I'm just wondering what Infinitas' reasoning is.
[07:10] <cipher_> yes i do
[07:10] <cipher_> promise; what about them?
[07:10] <Infinitas> I'm afraid there's no reasoning. It's like two guys named KDE and GNOME fighting for survival in my head.
[07:11] <promise> they are fun to tickle, thats all ^^
[07:11] <cipher_> lol
[07:11] <nick[0]> cipher_: Infinitas: it comes down to what you're comfortable with, I think.  Ah, "tickle"  ;-)
[07:11] <Infinitas> One thing's for sure, a decision will be made in next two minutes.
[07:11] <Infinitas> lol
[07:11] <cipher_> what is that GUI called flow somthing
[07:11] <cipher_> right click and your menu comes up
[07:12] <promise> what do you think the time difference in, from outside the matrix to the inside, is it a constant or ratio according to the complexity of consciousness of those in each region?
[07:12] <nick[0]> cipher_: what's the current state of keyboard shortcuts in KDE 4.3 ?  Jaunty's GNOME has frustrated me to the point where I switched back to Openbox
[07:12] <xanokais> so i had to test out vistar7.  set it up and put this machine side by side with my Win7 install
[07:12] <Infinitas> Well the guy representing gnome says there's a vast support and lesser bugs for ubuntu karmic, whereas kde is slightly behind.
[07:13] <cipher_> i am using gnome and have only used KDE in backtrack3, lol.
[07:13] <nick[0]> cipher_: problem being it misses or masks the keypress
[07:13] <Infinitas> There's this one particular sound issue, smplayer to be precise. It loses the sound at random intervals. Tried everything.
[07:13] <promise> my myspace has two live webcams, take the technology give it to your girlfriend for a titty cam she can put up
[07:13] <promise> http://www.myspace.com/ar5k
[07:14] <cipher_> you know you think this channel would look like a flood of text with260 users...
[07:14] <nick[0]> cipher_: backtrack3?
[07:15] <cipher_> a pen-testing ditrobution of linux that runs off of wax/knoppix
[07:15] <cipher_> pen-testing = hacking basicly
[07:15] <tsimpson> promise: that has nothing to do with kubuntu, so don't post that here
[07:16] <nick[0]> cipher_: ahh.  Nifty.
[07:16] <cipher_> promise dont advertise for you perversions here
[07:16] <cipher_> yeah
[07:16] <cipher_> this is annoying me my name is nick too :/
[07:17] <Infinitas> Okay..here goes kubuntu, I almost fooled myself into thinking I could live without it. :P
[07:17] <Infinitas> Thanks guys. ^^
[07:17] <cipher_> my windows partition was trying to remove my linux partition ealier today i am not kidding
[07:17] <nick[0]> Infinitas: :-)  It looks like it would be faster for me to torrent the iso and stick it on a usb stick than to get an answer here ;-)
[07:17] <cipher_> it got pissed off that it suddenly lacked a ton of space.
[07:18] <Infinitas> nick[0]: lol i suppose such is life.
[07:19] <Infinitas> But no, KDE forever.
[07:19] <Infinitas> In progress. :)
[07:21] <nick[0]> cipher_: and I decided to be extra pretentious by putting myself as the first element of the array!  (can you imagine how confusing things could get if there was a nick[0,0], a nick[0,0,0], etc.
[07:21] <nick[0]> )
[07:23] <cipher_> well i just do char nick[225] and then i will letthe irc worry about it
[07:24] <cipher_> actauly char nick[255]
[07:24] <cipher_> yeah 255* :D
[07:24] <nick[0]> cipher_: :-)
[07:24] <cipher_> do you code c++ or c nick?
[07:25] <tsimpson> could you move non-support chat to #kubuntu-offtopic please
[07:25] <nick[0]> c++ and sh mainly
[07:25] <cipher_> no one even is talking about kubuntu why do you care simpson?
[07:25] <nick[0]> tsimpson: are you willing to answer a simple kubuntu 9.10 support question?
[07:25] <tsimpson> cipher_: because it's the channel rules
[07:25] <tsimpson> nick[0]: if I know the answer
[07:25] <cipher_> tsimpson can i load my bots here?
[07:25] <cipher_> im kdding
[07:25] <cipher_> a joke
[07:26] <cipher_> hey nick join #mine
[07:26] <nick[0]> tsimpson: does Kubuntu 9.10 come with an optional colour scheme like "Darkroom"?
[07:26] <tsimpson> non-support chat is welcome in #kubuntu-offtopic (but still no bots :)
[07:27] <nick[0]> tsimpson: I much prefer charcoal, dark brown, and subdued orange to any alternatives (who knows why)
[07:27] <cipher_> nick join #mine so i dont get k/b
[07:28] <tsimpson> nick[0]: there are several schemes pre-installed, and more available from System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors
[07:28] <nick[0]> cipher_: k, though I won't be online for long
[07:28] <nick[0]> tsimpson: I haven't switched to Kubuntu yet (seriously, I'm using Openbox right now due to some GNOME keyboard shortcut handling bugs)
[07:29] <nick[0]> tsimpson: it takes 10sec to check, but I can't check, so would you please?
[07:29] <tsimpson> I think there's about 20 or so pre-installed schemes available, and probably hundreds (or more) from kde-look.org
[07:30] <cipher_> tsimpson doesnt seem as if he is going to check what do you need nick
[07:30] <nick[0]> tsimpson: I searched but did not find
[07:32] <tsimpson> nick[0]: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=74 has the list
[07:33] <Galaen> qt4 is realy opensource?
[07:33] <nick[0]> tsimpson: yes, I know.  I spend half an hour searching the whole site.  Could you please check your System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors
[07:33] <dinxperlo> Человеки!!!! Как установить Flashplayer на Ubuntu 9.10????
[07:34] <cipher_> i just love how quassel gives your ip out
[07:34] <cipher_> i got DDOSED because of this a couple days ago
[07:35] <dinxperlo> Человеки!!!! Как установить Flashplayer на Ubuntu 9.10????
[07:35] <tsimpson> nick[0]: http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7203/snap3w.jpg this is what I have
[07:35] <cipher_> as far as aperances what do you need nick?
[07:35] <Manager> aga
[07:36] <jussi01> !ru | dinxperlo
[07:36] <Manager>  кого тут заменеджерить?)
[07:36] <dinxperlo> !ru
[07:36] <tsimpson> cipher_: quassel doesn't give anything away, this IRC network does unless you request a cloak
[07:36] <cipher_> any non english channels :P
[07:36] <jussi01> dinxperlo: /join #ubuntu-ru
[07:36] <cipher_> ohh
[07:36] <cipher_> well i feel stupid
[07:36] <Manager> i'm in chanel
[07:37] <cipher_> please tell me how to request one
[07:37] <Manager> what?
[07:37] <jussi01> cipher_: which one?
[07:37]  * Manager smiles
[07:37] <Manager> :)
[07:37] <cipher_> for my user
[07:37] <tsimpson> cipher_: you need to register a nick and join #freenode to request an unaffiliated cloak, then a staff member will guide you
[07:37] <nick[0]> tsimpson: thank you so much.  I've been looking for something like this all evening.
[07:38] <cipher_> i will use a socks4 if i really need to do that, thanks anyway simpson.
[07:38] <Manager> and what?
[07:39] <cipher_> Manager: are you directing that towards me?
[07:39] <nick[0]> tsimpson: do you know if you can import gtk schemes?
[07:39] <promise> okay how about this, technology within the matrix becomes soo advanced and machines begin learning about quantum mechanics that they are able to teleport people from outside the matrix in front of the control panels to an artificial reality exactly like they were once awake from only changing it, to put them back asleep
[07:40] <tsimpson> nick[0]: I'm pretty sure you can't, but I've never tried to do that
[07:40]  * Manager no
[07:40] <cipher_> someone kick promise
[07:41] <tsimpson> no need, they are now muted :)
[07:41] <cipher_> atleast i attempt to stay on topic
[07:41] <Manager> ну блин духи дастали
[07:41] <cipher_> :P
[07:41] <jussi01> !en | Manager
[07:44] <nick[0]> hmm.  I'd probably be willing to port the GTK Darkroom to QT.  Does anyone know where I can find a guide/HOWTO/tutorial?
[07:44] <cipher_> ohh for crying out load
[07:45] <cipher_> Manager: Ubuntu #, # # Kubuntu и Xubuntu каналы на английском языке. Для получения полного списка каналов в другие Языки, пожалуйста, посетите http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:45] <cipher_> there
[07:45] <tsimpson> they quit
[07:45] <cipher_> ohh
[07:46] <cipher_> i am going to go out on a limb here and guess you get paid for this tsimpson?
[07:46] <tsimpson> cipher_: no, we are all volunteers here
[07:46] <cipher_> if not then i salute you for your dedication.
[07:47] <cipher_> in that case i will try to follow the rules, im off to kbuntu-offtopic
[07:47] <ionut> which is the ubuntu irc ?
[07:47] <ionut> which is the ubuntu channel
[07:47] <tsimpson> nick[0]: I can't find any guide, but perhaps the guys in #kde-devel have an idea
[07:47] <tsimpson> ionut: #ubuntu
[07:47] <ionut> thx
[07:52] <nick[0]> tsimpson: thanks!  Yes, it may be rediculous, but I'm really attached to the charcoal, orange, and brown. ;-)
[07:54]  * nick[0] not for this weekend, but he might port a gtk scheme to qt sometime next month
[08:25] <r2b2> join /engineyard
[08:25] <r2b2> join #engineyard
[08:28] <lizzzy> Hi! I installed Kubuntu on my hard drive from a Kubuntu liveUSB. The grub doesn't load and I get a "Load Error 15" error
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> well installed 9.10 and then selected the ati driver and I have the same problem I had 14 months ago, X wont start
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> also recovery mode seems corrupted
[08:29] <KnarkVador> Kubuntu 9.10 is verry good !
[08:30] <Linux_Galore> also found a few install bugs to add to the list ie keeps wanting to install on a system disk not an empty one
[08:31] <Linux_Galore> had to move the sata cables to get around ti wanting to ingore the only blank hardisk on my system
[08:31] <lizzzy> I know! But, I can't get it to install on my hard drive. "Load Error 15" *sad face*
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> now I have to figure how to remove the ati driver and force it to go back to the default sigh!
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> lucky I didnt remove my old kubuntu instal
[08:33] <Mamarok> Linux_Galore: install the radeon one, remove the fglrx and reconfigure xorg.conf
[08:33] <Mamarok> the command is inside xorg.conf
[08:33] <Mamarok> Linux_Galore: need help or will you find?
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> Mamarok: why didnt they remove the option to go back to the old settings in the recovery mode ?
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> did*
[08:34] <Mamarok> did they?
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> 8.10 allows you to go back to the old setting for X but 9.10 doesnt, instead now you have to do a command line hack
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> yes
[08:35] <Mamarok> hm, because recovery mode is not command line?
[08:36] <Mamarok> Linux_Galore: well, using proprietary drivers is always risky, don't blame the Kubuntu folk, since ATI has removed a lot of cards from the kernel
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> well reovery mode usually gives you a list of options, in 9.10 the settings to recover your old settings is gone
[08:36] <Mamarok> but good news, the free radeon driver gets better, next version supports 3D for nearly all cards
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> in 8.10 removing the ati driver was a no brainer
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> Mamarok: not good when windows works perfect for 20 odd years
[08:37] <jussi01> wrong
[08:37] <Mamarok> Linux_Galore: well, talk to the driver manufacturer
[08:37] <Mamarok> and windows doesn't work perfect, far from that, the ATI driver here in Vista is pure crap, extremly slow refresh rate
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> Mamarok: we did 3 years ago, they handed the specs to the community over a year ago now
[08:37] <jussi01> But shall we head back towards kubuntu support please?
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> whats the command now considering recovery mode wont do it to set Xorg back to default
[08:39] <Mamarok> Linux_Galore: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon (or -hg, depending on your card)
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> tnks
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> but wont the radeon driver already be installed ?
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> or will that force a new install thus deleting the old settings ?
[08:40] <Mamarok> if you didn't remove it, yes
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> whats the new FOSS ati driver, radeonhd or has that been merged ?
[08:44] <Mamarok> Linux_Galore: see above, depends on your card, either radeon or radeonhd
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> well its a 4850 so i better go with the radeonhd
[08:45] <Linux_Galore> bbl
[08:48] <gullfox> guten morgen
[08:49] <gullfox> ich habe mir mal das erste mal kubuntu installiert !
[08:50] <Mamarok> !de | gullfox
[08:50] <gullfox> dank you ;)
[09:19] <delight> is there a method to reset the sound/multimedia settings in KDE ? Since a couple days the sound in (Karmic) KDE is muted on Gnome its still working. :-(
[09:29] <slow-motion> hi
[09:30] <tobixx> Hi, I upgraded to 9.10 recently and now I can see the dialog window from noscript extension in firefox - can anyone confirm this too ?
[09:31] <tobixx> I mean : can not see it anymore
[09:32] <mirko_> salve
[09:36] <rork> tobixx: I just installed it and I get the dialog at the bottom of the screen
[09:38] <rork> tobixx: I guess this is what you meant: http://www.rork.nl/tmp/noscript.png
[09:38] <bbigras> Someone else have the Firefox crash problem with libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so ?
[09:43] <varanus> bbigras: if i remember well, mine firefox has crached too 1-2 times with browsing flash applications
[09:45] <bbigras> varanus: :( mine seems to crash on most websites. And the default flashplayer (form flashplugin-installer) feels a bit buggy, for exemple I can't skip to certain part on youtube video
[09:46] <jorg__> good morning
[09:46] <tobixx> rork: I'm not sure what you want to show with the picture, but anyway, I can see the shown bar too but the problem is that when I click on "Options" or the symbol to configure the settings for it - I can't see the window which should open. Must something have to do with the now enabled composite I assume. Because I can see shade only of the window but is nearly invisble.
[09:46] <varanus> bbigras: does konqueror have the same problems?
[09:47] <varanus> cause for me, some times that firefox can't open flash apps konqueror does.
[09:49] <bbigras> varanus: it's weird, today it seems to work fine in both. maybe there was a fix in the recent firefox package update
[09:49] <varanus> bbigras: probably cause i see other people too to complain about ff in other chats
[09:52] <Linux_Galore> just na update, radeonhd borken in 9.10, radeon is fine
[09:52] <rork> tobixx: If I click on Options a menu is shown with options to allow or block scripts and some options. If I select options in the menu a preferences window shows up so it seems like it works fine.
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> got radeonhd running on 8.10 fine though with the same software
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> hardware*
[09:54] <omar> Hi
[09:54] <omar> I just tried to upgrare Kubuntu on my Laptop, but something nasty seemed to have happened to GRUB
[09:55] <Linux_Galore> one thing though is better, 8.10 wouldnt even boot from the cd on this p45 machine, now it does
[09:55] <tobixx> rork: have you composite enabled ?
[09:56] <rork> tobixx: no
[09:56] <omar> When I tried to boot up the machine, it says: "udev is not permitted".
[09:57] <Linux_Galore> recovery mode has an arrow were it is still loading services after the recovery mode screen loads and this borks the text in the recovery mode screen
[09:57] <Linux_Galore> error*
[09:58] <tobixx> rork: tested without composite but now I can't evven see the shade anymore - so this was not the root
[09:58] <bbigras> varanus: thanks for the help. I think I'll wait a bit to see if others have problems with the 64 bit version
[10:00] <Linux_Galore> bbigras: Im on the 64 bit version, only serious ug so far is the ati driver and radeonhd both borking
[10:00] <Linux_Galore> bug*
[10:00] <varanus> bbigras: np, i have the 64bit version but the problem is not so frequent. you could try to completely uninstall ff and flashplugin and retry if noone else have the same problem
[10:01] <matahari> i am looking for a way to setup an ecnrypted directory where 2 users can write to. All files that the users write to that directory shall be read-and writeable by both users. has someone of you an idea how to solve that? is that possible with ecryptfs? Thanks in advance!
[10:01] <bbigras> Linux_Galore: thanks
[10:01] <bbigras> varanus: yes I'll try that
[10:02] <varanus> i hvae the ati driver too, but the one found from the hardware drivers installator of kubuntu, not the closed ones :/
[10:03] <Linux_Galore> varanus: radeon or radeonhd ?  everything else is closed source
[10:03] <varanus> Linux_Galore: the radeon
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> varanus: yeah, I have the radeon driver, works but no 3d
[10:04] <omar> Linux_Galore: it says: "/dev/disk/by-uuid/87528bbf-5dd8-446d-b538-c3f8b1cebafd" does not exist.
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> varanus: new card ?
[10:04] <varanus> it works preety fine with flash player and with the kwin effects instead the closed one gave me lots of problems. the hd 4850
[10:05] <Linux_Galore> varanus: I havent tried kwin effects yet, seems to not want me to enable it
[10:05] <omar> Linux_Galore: it even fails to boot recovery more, keeps sending me to a commanline environment.
[10:05] <tobixx> rork: solved by my own - but thanks for your help, seems that the better firefox integration into kde conflict with my firefox theme where the dark kde theme and the dark firefox theme together results in this occurence
[10:05] <varanus> Linux_Galore: btw, i got 3d and direct rendering too
[10:06] <Linux_Galore> varanus: I have dri and glx set in xorg
[10:06] <omar> Please help!
[10:07] <rork> tobixx: you're welcome
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> omar: did you enable encryption ?
[10:07] <omar> Linux_Galore: no.
[10:07] <varanus> Linux_Galore: i have module glx and driver fglrx
[10:07] <omar> Linux_Galore: I don't remember doing that.
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> varanus: fglrx is the non-open driver
[10:08] <varanus> Linux_Galore: so i have both installed??
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> varanus: usually yes, if you look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  it should tell you what driver you are loading
[10:09] <Linux_Galore> radeon, radeonhd = open source,  fglrx = closed source
[10:09] <varanus> Linux_Galore: but when i run the Hardware driver program of kubuntu to find my system drivers, is it possible that searches for closed drivers too?
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> varanus: yes
[10:10] <varanus> Linux_Galore: sorry then, didn't know that
[10:11] <gurumeditationer> I don't see a /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my 9.10 install, is that normal?
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> varanus: if you get the fglrx driver working, dont worry to much the open source driver still needs a few months works to get 3D finnished
[10:12] <varanus> Linux_Galore: ty very much for that information and sorry for my ignorance.
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> gurumeditationer: not sure you can see it as a user
[10:12] <gurumeditationer> Root can't see it either.
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> gurumeditationer: in a terminal type  sudo  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:13] <gurumeditationer> That would be really scary if a user couldn't see the file, even if they didn't have access to it.
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> gurumeditationer: normal policy for a file manager
[10:14] <varanus> Linux_Galore: could i ask you one last thing. does the side mouse buttons (back/forward) work with konqueror/dolphin on 9.10?
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> varanus: think it depends on the mouse
[10:15] <jepong> I tried Kubuntu 9.10 and 3G is not yet working
[10:15] <jepong> :(
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> i usually just scroll
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> jepong: 3G what
[10:15] <varanus> Linux_Galore: ok ty very much
[10:15] <kebomix> hello , i have ATI Radeon 3650 , how to install it's driver on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:15] <kebomix> kubuntu *
[10:16] <Linux_Galore> kebomix: click on the small video card icon at the bottom right of your screen
[10:16] <omar> Linux_Galore: It sayd "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured"
[10:16] <omar> Linux_Galore: It also says "udevadm settle is not permitted while udev is unconfigured"
[10:17] <kebomix> Linux_Galore: i did ,but when trying to activate , it doesn't show me driver download :S
[10:17] <Linux_Galore> kebomix: be patient, servers over loaded right now
[10:17] <jepong> Linux_Galore... kubuntu mobile broadband
[10:17] <omar> Linux_Galore: And then it says "svglib: Cannot open /dev/mem"
[10:17] <Linux_Galore> jepong: 3G works fine, depends what type of hardware you are using
[10:18] <jepong> im using huawei
[10:18] <Linux_Galore> jepong: I have been using a 3G usb dongle now for a good 9 months on a laptop
[10:18] <jepong> i tried using only live-usb
[10:18] <omar> Linux_Galore: "/dev/mem" does not even seem to exist when I looked for it.
[10:18] <jepong> can't use it on jaunty either Linux_Galore
[10:19] <omar> Linux_Galore: please help me.
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> omar: sound like a borked install
[10:19] <omar> Linux_Galore: what do I do??
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> omar: do what I do, try again
[10:19] <omar> Linux_Galore: try what?
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> omar: intalling
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> installing*
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> omar: is this an update ?
[10:20] <omar> Linux_Galore: installing the whole thing from scratch?
[10:20] <omar> Linux_Galore: yes, it is.
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> omar: ah, I never update
[10:20] <kebomix> omar: salam :D
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> omar: always breaks for me as my installs are so hacked after 6 months the installer cant even figure out what day it is lol
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> omar: I usually just go buy another hardisk and install
[10:22]  * Linux_Galore one of the adantages of having a full tower, lots of hardisk space
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> usually after a few weeks I delete the old install and add it as an archive drive
[10:23] <omar> Linux_Galore: it seems I can't even boot from USB!
[10:23] <kebomix> Linux_Galore: i installed FGLRX driver manually before , and it didn't work for me
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> kebomix: hasnt worked for me in 16 months
[10:25] <kebomix> Linux_Galore: so what is the solution , i installed ATI  driver from their website before and it caused kernel panic after reboot and i wasn't able to get in to system :S
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> kebomix: funny how the most restricted 3D video hardware (nvidia) get the least problems for me
[10:25] <kebomix> Linux_Galore: yeah Nvidia do much support 4 linux
[10:26] <kebomix> it shows me FGRLX driver on Hardware Drivers :S
[10:26] <Linux_Galore> kebomix: I might give up and just get a Nvidia card, cant wait another year for ati to get a foss 3d driver
[10:26] <franta> Hi people! I have problems with system tray widget ( don't know it it is it's proper name, I have czech language here) it keeps eating way too much cpu also plasma keeps crashing ... any suggestions? I'm on 9.10 64bit
[10:28] <Linux_Galore> franta: run sudo ksysguard and see what chewing up resources
[10:34] <ward> Hello I'm trying to update from 9.04 to 9.10 but the installer is very slow and stops when downloading files (702 files downloaded)... anybody had this problem ?
[10:34] <anpu> my upgrade failed, i did fresh reinstall
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> ward: normal, servers are getting hammered
[10:35] <costin> kubuntu 9.10 is the bad
[10:35] <ward> Linux_Galore: is there a lot if risk when updating ?
[10:35] <ward> Linux_Galore: can I do it trough apt instead of gfx update ?
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> ward: yes you can
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> ward: it will still hang though when the servers busy\
[10:36] <caesar20001> hi!
[10:36] <Ramblurr> is there a way to downgrade the version of gdb to 6.8, the 7.0 version that comes with karmic isn't supported by my dev env
[10:36] <ward> Linux_Galore: okay how can I do that with apt ? and does he change my repos info etc ?
[10:37] <ward> Linux_Galore: Changing to another mirror won't help ?
[10:37] <anpu> I have a question, I want some partition to be mounted as /home, how to do it?
[10:37] <kebomix> All ATI User read this : http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18915
[10:38] <carpii_> anpu, just mount it in /etc/fstab
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> ward: could do
[10:43] <omar> Linux_Galore: however, I also upgraded my and it worked perfecty.
[10:43] <ext4_doubt> hi, i am running ubuntu 9.04 and have the following partitions : / (ext3)   /usr (ext3)   /var (ext3)  /home (ext3)   and swap. I plan to do to a FRESH installation of Karmic. my /home partition's size is 130 gig . Since i do not have the means to back up my home partition, shall i keep it as ext3 or will perhaps the ubuntu installer migrate it to ext4 WITHOUT losing any data?
[10:44] <jon> \list
[10:45] <ettore> excuse me
[10:45] <ettore> the italy chat please????
[10:45] <anpu> !it
[10:45] <yuki> Is there anybody from Kyrgyzstan? I need help.
[10:45] <kebomix> kyrgyzstan !!!
[10:46] <Guest29913> are there any digital logic channels
[10:46] <kebomix> yuki : what is ur language ?
[10:46] <anpu> carpii_: thx, and how can i scan which partitions are available for mounting?
[10:47] <yuki> kebomix: our lang is kyrgyz, but we often speak russian.
[10:47] <ettore> grazie
[10:49] <franta> well ksysguard says that plasma-desktop keeps doing someting (like 16% load on cpu)
[10:49] <kebomix> yuki: join ubuntu-ru :)
[10:49] <franta> Linux-Galore
[10:49] <kebomix> #ubuntu-ru
[10:49] <jordan_> hello all
[10:50] <kebomix> hello jordan_
[10:51] <jordan_> when I tried to identify myself as root in "system configuration", for advanced settings in "user management", the password I entered was not validated
[10:51] <kebomix> i like Quassel IRC:  have alot of option that i never found in other programs
[10:52] <varanus> franta: time ago i had a similar problem and to solve it i removed all the widgets and put it one by one to see which is the one that gives problems.
[10:52] <kebomix> yuki: join #ubuntu-ru
[10:52] <Guest29913> where can i get digital logic assistance
[10:52] <kebomix> yeeh
[10:52] <franta> varanus: yes I have tryed it and it's system tray widget
[10:52] <anpu> !rs
[10:52] <franta> probably it's called like that I have czech mutation installed
[10:53] <jordan_> I don't understand because i'm loged in but the same password doesn't work in system configuration, but it works in terminal when I do sudo
[10:53] <varanus> franta: the system tray is where the various programs are minimized with a small icon
[10:53] <franta> varanus: yes that widget with small icons of running programs
[10:54] <varanus> franta: anyway, plasma desktop should not occupy more than 5-10% of cpu
[10:55] <franta> I know...
[10:55] <franta> it's waay to much
[10:58] <franta> could this have something to do with intel graphics card?
[11:01] <varanus> franta: maybe you could backup and then delete the ~/.kde/share/config to let it make a new configuration. don't know if this could help by leting he system make a new one. don't sure that could work though that's y it's better if you make a backup before deleting
[11:01] <franta> varanus: well it was caused by some of settings of that widget
[11:02] <franta> I tryed to set eveything on and that cpu load is now gone
[11:02] <varanus> ok
[11:02] <franta> varanus: I'll post what causes this if I find it, Thanks!
[11:03] <varanus> franta: did nothing. happy to hear you resolved
[11:05] <ext4_doubt> on a FRESH install would there be a problem if i migrate /  /usr  /var  to ext4 but keep /home as ext3  ?
[11:07] <kwyjibo> Why is Kubuntu 32-bit artificailly limiting ram to 3 gigabytes? The x86 32-bit architecture allows for 4GB per task, and in modern 686 architectures address a total of 64GB can be used.
[11:08] <Guest52552> kwyjibo: install kernel-pae
[11:09] <Guest52552> kwyjibo: it's on windows too
[11:10] <kwyjibo> Windows limits it deliberately, unless you purchase the Enterprise editions for a pretty penny.
[11:10] <hemathor> how do i use nfs-ressources in 9.10?
[11:13] <ext4_doubt> on a FRESH install would there be a problem if i format  /    /usr    /var  as  ext4   but have  /home as ext3? has anyone here done that and did not suffer any performance problems or stability issues??
[11:20] <Guest52552> ext4_doubt: #ubuntu
[11:21] <ext4_doubt> Guest52552, i asked the question there already, that is why i am here asking it too since kubuntu is just basically ubuntu with kde
[11:23] <kebomix1> ext4_doubt: yeah , i'm sorry i told u to go there because there is no much ppl who  can answer u , try #fedora ,  it's partitions problem
[11:23] <dmitriy> hi people
[11:24] <kebomix1> hi dmitriy
[11:27] <arfs> Hey! I am having problems with my Intel 945GM graphics card scince Kubuntu 9.04. It freezes randomly (even when I am doing nothing). I have to reboot the complete machine to continue work. I hoped that problem was fixed in Kubuntu 9.10 which was released on thursday but unfortunateley I discovered the same problems just a second ago. Does anyone know what kind of problem that could be? Note: In ArchLinux everythings works fine (with the same
[11:27] <arfs>  graphics driver (xorg-video-intel version 2.9.0)).
[11:28] <zmitya> hi everybody
[11:29] <zmitya> guys, I have a fresh karmic..
[11:29] <zmitya> when I add a new panel, it goes to the top of the screen, but I want it in toe right side of me desktop
[11:29] <zmitya> how can I move it ?
[11:31] <robin0800> zmitya: properties on panel right click
[11:32] <zmitya> robin0800: thats fine
[11:32] <zmitya> I got the settings window close to the panel
[11:33] <zmitya> but can't move the panel for some reason
[11:39] <oscar> Hello, is it possble to switch from kde to gnome ?
[11:40] <oscar> I've installed kubuntu and would like to revert back to Gnome :(
[11:40] <rork> oscar install gnome and gdm
[11:41] <roKB> !gnome
[11:41] <roKB> !gnome | oscar
[11:41] <kebomix1> oscar: u didn't like kde ?
[11:42] <roKB> !edubuntu
[11:42] <roKB> !desktop
[11:42] <oscar> I guess I should probably try it a bit longer
[11:42] <oscar> but I just wanted to know if I could change back to gnome
[11:43] <oscar> when I try to do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it says it cannot find the package.
[11:43] <roKB> oscar: ya u can chage just type in konsole << sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop >>
[11:43] <roKB> oscar: then first type << sudo apt-get update >>
[11:44] <roKB> oscar: then type << sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop >> after completion of above command
[11:44] <oscar> do I have to uninstall anythinga fter I install ubuntu desktop?
[11:44] <Larik> bo?
[11:44] <Freyr> hi. i have a little problem with vlc player on karmic. it's opening but when i want to play a video file it is closing
[11:44] <Larik> no?
[11:45] <oscar> oh okay thanks :)
[11:45] <Larik> oscar: :) you can even run kde programs @ gnome so..
[11:45] <Freyr> vlc version is 1.0.2 (goldeneye)
[11:46] <roKB> oscar: no, u don't have to uninstall anything, u can use both kde and gnome :)
[11:46] <oscar> oh okay that's cool
[11:46] <oscar> I think I'll give it try for a bit longer before I decide to change back :)
[11:46] <oscar> thanks guys
[11:48] <roKB> oscar: any time sweatheart :)
[11:48] <roKB> Freyr: did u installed your graphics driver properly ??
[11:48] <roKB> Freyr: and sound driver also ...
[11:48] <roKB> !sound | Freyr
[11:49] <roKB> !video | Freyr
[11:49] <Freyr> rokb: yesterdeay i reinstalled the drvers for my graphic card. sound is working very well
[11:51] <roKB> Freyr: nvidia or ATI
[11:51] <Freyr> roKB: nvidia
[11:51] <Freyr> roKB: drivers downloaded and installed from nvidia site
[11:52] <roKB> Freyr: try to install nvidia drivers from K -> Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[11:52] <roKB> Freyr: it generally have latest driver
[11:52] <Freyr> roKB: i played some video files with mplayer and worked well
[11:53] <Freyr> i had the latest drivers
[11:53] <roKB> Freyr: mplayer can use X buffer, so that will work fine
[11:54] <roKB> Freyr: once i played video on mplayer without graphics card, although fps in fullscreen was 3 to 4
[11:54] <roKB> *without graphics card driver
[11:54] <fl4sh> Hi :)
[11:54] <fl4sh> kann mir jemand helfen?
[11:54] <fl4sh> mein distributionsupgrade hängt :(
[11:55] <roKB> !hi | fl4sh
[11:55] <roKB> fl4sh: upgrade using: << sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>
[11:56] <fl4sh> I've started it with the little box at systemstart :D
[11:57] <fl4sh> it asked me if I want to upgrade
[11:57] <fl4sh> all was ok, it downloaded the files
[11:57] <arfs> Hmm.. seems that nobody experienced that problem...
[11:58] <roKB> fl4sh: restart your system and upgrade using konsole
[11:58] <fl4sh> an now, for half an hour it shows "Datei 1271 of 1271 wird heruntergeladen"
[11:59] <roKB> i think init 6 will work fine
[12:00] <fl4sh> so I have to download it again? :-/
[12:00] <fl4sh> It says it's maybe dangerous to stop now.
[12:01] <fl4sh> oke, let's restart :D
[12:02] <daDudeMan> any others have issues copy/pasting to/from Konsole with mouse?  on Karmic...
[12:03] <yuanmin> hello everybody, i have a problem, i can't upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 from the first time i canceled the upgrade downloading, anybody can help me?
[12:04] <yuanmin>  hello everybody, i have a problem, i can't upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 from the first time i canceled the upgrade downloading, anybody can help me?
[12:12] <OpenMaster> hi
[12:12] <kaddi> Hi, can I set a sizelimit for the thumbnails? they are currently taking up 1Gb of size which is kind of a lot on a 10Gb partition
[12:15] <daDudeMan> yuanmin:  I had my install abort in the middle and I couldnt figure out how to salvage.  Had to fresh install it
[12:16] <OpenMaster> I have a problem with kubuntu 9.10. Yesterday I installed it on my girlfriend's laptop. At my home I was able to connect to internet by means of wifi but when I went to her home I wasn't able to connect to Internet (always by means of wifi) but I can see the router page ( <IP_ADDRESS> ). Can anyone help me? :(
[12:18] <daDudeMan> OpenMaster:  is the network on DHCP?  can other computers get out to internet on that network?
[12:20] <OpenMaster> yes other computer can connect to internet: Her pc with winzoz(wifi) Vista, My Pc with Kub9.04 (wifi) her brother's PC with winzoz Xp
[12:20] <OpenMaster> and yes her network is on DHCP
[12:22] <daDudeMan> can you ping the other computers on the network?
[12:25] <OpenMaster> umm
[12:25] <OpenMaster> how can i do this?
[12:25] <OpenMaster> ( I'm a noob )
[12:28] <cobra-the-joker> hey there guys .....any one installed the new kubuntu 9.10 on his system ?
[12:32] <daDudeMan> OpenMaster open Konsole
[12:33] <OpenMaster> ...how can I open It? it is the terminal?
[12:33] <OpenMaster> is it*
[12:34] <OpenMaster> okok opened!
[12:36] <rork> cobra-the-joker: yes, configuring it right now
[12:38] <nusch> in 9.04 if I clicked show dashboard or used Ctrl+F12 I've seen the result immediately, now in karmic I must wait about 1sec for this to take effect, anybody knows the reason ? (the same nvidia driver, same configuration, compositing enabled)
[12:43] <daDudeMan> openmaster:  ping (ip of other machine - or router )
[12:43] <OpenMaster> I had to write in the consol "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[12:43] <OpenMaster> how can I konw the IP of others PC ?
[12:46] <OpenMaster> 64 bites from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq= 101
[12:48] <OpenMaster> 64 bites from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq= 101 TTL = 255 time= 52,4 ms
[12:48] <OpenMaster> 101 and 52,4 changes
[12:52] <pknight_> hey, just upgraded to 9.10 and having a hell of a time getting my remote to work :( - no /dev/lirc0 for hauppage TV card - used to work fine before upgrade . any ideas?
[12:54] <Benkinooby> hi, cant use my wlan with wpa. any ideas?
[12:55] <Benkinooby> it starts connection, but it will not verify
[12:57] <Luggage> hi all
[13:05] <Benkinooby> hi, i really need help with mz wlan!
[13:05] <Benkinooby> i can detect but can not connect
[13:05] <Benkinooby> wpa encrypted
[13:07] <maxvanceffer> Hi all
[13:07] <ikonia> hello
[13:08] <OpenMaster> daDudeMan: is correct what I wrote?
[13:15] <maxvanceffer> Is anybody know how to get ksynaptic without compile it ?
[13:18] <daDudeMan> OpenMaster... seems like that is working.  if you ping google . com, it doesnt work?
[13:18] <OpenMaster> how can I ping Google?
[13:18] <OpenMaster> "ping www.google.it"  ??
[13:19] <daDudeMan> yes, but sub it for com
[13:19] <OpenMaster> but I can't understand why the connection works at my home and not to her home :(   PS.: She has a D-link
[13:20] <OpenMaster> ok one moment I'll tell her to do this
[13:20] <daDudeMan> did you change the keyID for the connections?  i'm sure they are different from yours to hers?
[13:21] <bala> hi, i don't see the reboot/shutdown options in my kickoff menu after upgrading to karmic, any clue how to fix this?
[13:23] <OpenMaster> umm what is KeyID ? I only select the network and than I type the wew
[13:23] <OpenMaster> *wep
[13:24] <OpenMaster> one moment she has a lunch XD
[13:27] <maxvanceffer> So boys how to get ksynaptic without downloading it and compile?
[13:30] <Luggage> ksynaptic?
[13:30] <Luggage> (just uses synaptic)
[13:32] <maxvanceffer> but there now in repos
[13:32] <maxvanceffer> it
[13:33] <maxvanceffer> only gsynaptics
[13:33] <ikonia> maxvanceffer: if it's in the repo install it from the repo
[13:33] <maxvanceffer> but this is from gnome
[13:33] <ikonia> maxvanceffer: so ?
[13:33] <ikonia> maxvanceffer: you'll need to install the kde dependencies it needs, but if it's in the repo's it will do that for you
[13:34] <maxvanceffer> but no in repos
[13:34] <ikonia> then you'd have to build it yourself
[13:34] <ikonia> which would make it hard to suport your system
[13:35] <maxvanceffer> Thats why i want it from repos
[13:35] <ikonia> but it's not in the repos
[13:35] <maxvanceffer> Did kde add it in future? Is anybody know ?
[13:36] <ikonia> impossible to say
[13:38] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:38] <hima785> 012785
[13:39] <OpenMaster> ok I'm going to her home....she is too slow in eating :)
[13:39] <hima785> انا مش فاهم حاجه
[13:40] <Laeborg> ey
[13:41] <Laeborg> I have two working screens. When i take a screenshot I want it only to take a screenshot of the current screen, not both. any fix for this ?
[13:42] <Shockrates> hi
[13:42] <Shockrates> how can i get md5 hash for a file?
[13:42] <Shockrates> a tar
[13:42] <Shockrates> for example
[13:42] <Shockrates> so i can compare it
[13:42] <FloodBotK2> Shockrates: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <amik> Shockrates: md5sum
[13:43] <Shockrates> amik: do i have to download it? or its like one command
[13:43] <amik> it's one command, don't remember if it's installed by default or not (might need apt-get install md5sum)
[13:43] <Shockrates> thanks very much
[13:44] <Shockrates> does anyone use sagemath?
[13:45]  * BluesKaj wonders when the fglrx-geard 3D cube will be adopted by nvidia and other graphics co's for testing 3D and dir
[13:46] <amik> Shockrates: I once wrote a little java gui for md5 of multiple files (and saving the results, etc), but I won't advertise it here :-)
[13:46] <BluesKaj> or is it fglrx-glxears ?
[13:47] <Shockrates> amik: ok cool . but i need to check only one file through konsole
[13:47] <amik> anyone here tried karmic on a GMA500?
[13:47] <amik> Shockrates: I figured it would be overkill, go for md5sum :-)
[13:47] <Shockrates> yeah
[13:48] <Shockrates> amik: so are you a programmer?
[13:49] <amik> Shockrates: are we still called that? isn't developer the politically correct term? or software engineer? sounds classier :-)
[13:49] <Shockrates> lol
[13:49] <BluesKaj> amik, dunno if the md5 sum has been updated from the RC, there seems to be a problem there ...forgotten who pointed that out yesterday
[13:49] <adaptr> code monkey
[13:50] <amik> BluesKaj, Shockrates: I think Shock wants to md5 and arbitrary file, not the karmic iso - is that what u meant?
[13:50] <Shockrates> in the future i will use metalinks
[13:50] <Shockrates> :D
[13:51] <javier> Hi, could someone help me? after upgrading to Karmic Koala I've problems with my sources of software
[13:51] <javier> I cannot do "sudo apt-get update" neither from KpackageKit
[13:51] <BluesKaj> amik, ok, I thought it would affect all apps not updated to the official release
[13:52]  * amik is scared Mamarok will bark at him for saying something unrelated to support :-/
[13:52] <javier> how could I reset my souce.list?
[13:52] <alberto> hi
[13:52] <amik> BluesKaj: huh?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> javier, are you upgrading from jaunty?
[13:52] <alberto> i can't start KDE
[13:52] <javier> yes
[13:52] <amik> alberto: what happens?
[13:52] <alberto> because Xorg restart
[13:53] <BluesKaj> amik nm , I'm not quite awake yet , just ignore that :)
[13:53] <alberto> I deleted compiz
[13:53] <alberto> any ideas?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> javier, use the update-manager
[13:53] <amik> alberto: what system r u running? which release? what have u done to it? did it work before?
[13:54] <alberto> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10
[13:54] <amik> alberto: a fresh install? or upgrade?
[13:54] <alberto> I purged compiz from Ubuntu
[13:55] <alberto> fresh install
[13:55] <javier> blueskaj: could you please tell me more about that?
[13:55] <amik> alberto: and u want to switch to Kubuntu (i.e. add KDE)?
[13:55] <alberto> yeak
[13:55] <alberto> *yes
[13:56] <amik> alberto: so from the fresh working Ubuntu installation, what did u do?
[13:56] <maxvanceffer> u can just can type in console sudo aptitude install kde-desktop
[13:56] <BluesKaj> javier . alt+f2 type update-manager
[13:56] <amik> alberto: to go Kubuntu, u need to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[13:57] <m3F> how could i tell phonon to play surround? mixer is set ok and Phonon test front and rear ok, but when i play amarok i just hear fronts
[13:57] <alberto> I installed kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[13:57] <alberto> but the problem persist
[13:57] <amik> alberto: the problem started before installing kubuntu-desktop?
[13:58] <amik> amik: on the fresh Ubuntu?
[13:58] <alberto> no
[13:58] <BluesKaj> javier, if you don't have it installed , in the konsole : sudo aptitude install update-manager
[13:58] <m3F> and when i put Rear device at the top of the list in Phonon Amarok plays through rear and not through fronts, what do i have to do?
[13:58] <alberto> I installed kdebase and kubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <alberto> At same time
[13:58] <amik> alberto: sorry for the questions, just trying to figure out the order of events leading to the problem :-)
[13:58] <m3F> (Using Kubuntu Karmic official)
[13:59] <alberto> I had problems with compiz before
[13:59] <alberto> But it's solved
[14:00] <alberto> Any ideas?
[14:00] <amik> alberto: btw, if it's a very fresh install with nothing of importance on it, it might be quicker and cleaner to just install Kubuntu from scratch :-)
[14:00] <amik> alberto: (when switching, you're still left with lots of gnome (ubuntu) stuff lying around...)
[14:00] <m3F> btw, window decoration in KDE is really awful, plasma is great, but kwd is really awful
[14:01] <alberto> I tried with live CD of Kubuntu
[14:01] <amik> m3F: what's kwd?
[14:01] <Luggage> Heya, is %sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx-180 enough te uninstall the drivers before installing the 190.42 drivers with the installer from nvidia.com? or do I have to manually chase all the dependencies (the modaliases-packages for example)
[14:02] <m3F> KDE Window decorator :D amik
[14:02] <alberto> It had the same problem
[14:02] <amik> Luggage: when I did that, I just unchecked the previous drivers from the hardware manager gui, restarted, and proceeded to install the nvidia drivers
[14:03] <BluesKaj> !pm | javier
[14:03] <amik> alberto: oh... so u'r having problems straight from the kubuntu livecd, unrelated to the upgrade/switch...
[14:03] <alberto> yeah
[14:03] <m3F> there must be visual artists that can make a great job with kde4 window decorator, i do not know why it is so awful and keep being like that for so long :D
[14:04] <Luggage> hmm cause I installed them using apt-get nvidia-glx-180, I cant activate the one showing in hardware config though, but the acceleration from the 180 drivers is clearly there now, just not good enough yet so wanted to try newer drivers :)
[14:04] <BluesKaj> ok javier , alt +f2 , kdesudo kate /etcapt/source.list
[14:04] <DavidR> hello!
[14:04] <amik> m3F: is that the deco seen in a regular kubuntu install? or does plasma (installed by default) change it?
[14:04] <javier> When trying to install "update-manager" it gives me an error, saying that line 5 of /etc/apt/sources.list is bad
[14:04] <gl_> alberto: what is the problem (sorry I arrived here late to the chat)
[14:05] <DavidR> i want to install kubuntu 9.10 to my notebook via lan
[14:05] <javier> (sorry for asking to bluesKaj in a different channel, just, didnt know that wasnt the way)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> oops javier, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/source.list
[14:05] <m3F> amik: kwd by default fresh install of Karmic or Jaunty or what ever
[14:05] <BluesKaj> damn
[14:05] <OpenMaster> daDudeMan 64 bytes from www.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) : icmp_seq=67 ttl=53 100ms
[14:05] <alberto> I can't start KDE because Xorg restart
[14:05] <amik> m3F: well it's a tad ugly, but I always considered it to be the 'Linux' look :-)
[14:05] <m3F> it is the official kde4 window decorator, it is awful!! :D amik
[14:05] <OpenMaster> 67 and 100 change
[14:05] <Luggage> ill just bite the bullet and purge 180 and run the installer. brb (i hope)
[14:05] <aLeSD> mmm
[14:05] <Alcapond> Hi - I have a problem with wlan after new install of karmic kubuntu... Knetworkmanager does not show any wlans anymore - and my WLAN signal lamb is of (bluetooth seems to work though) - got an Lenovo Z61m - any help there? Thx!
[14:05] <DavidR> i already set up a tftpd, and dhcp server and everything is fine. the only thing i need is someone to tell me how to bind the cd image into the tftp server
[14:06] <aLeSD> I'm from gnome
[14:06] <aLeSD> how is kubuntu ?
[14:06] <gl_> alberto: and that is from the kubuntu-desktop live cd?
[14:06] <m3F> Linux look? that would be in the past, now the thing is visual art, amik
[14:06] <amik> Luggage: I may be wrong, but iirc apt-get and the manager gui do the same thing, i.e. installing/uninstalling one shows in the other
[14:06] <alberto> yes too
[14:06] <javier> ah, I cannot open it
[14:06] <Alcapond> BTW: karmic koala really rocks - great work :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> javier sorry this the correct command , alt+f2, then,  kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:06] <amik> m3F: my windows decorations claim otherwise :-p
[14:07] <maxvanceffer> Karmic is very big setp forward, i think.
[14:07] <javier> but I get empty document from Kate
[14:07] <gl_> alberto: what computer is that (and what video card)
[14:07] <DavidR> can anyone help me with the tftp?
[14:07] <amik> alberto: I'm still confused - if u have problems straight from the livecd, what xorg restart are u referring to?
[14:07] <alberto> It's a laptop
[14:08] <alberto> VIA Unichrome pro VN800
[14:08] <gl_>  what video card
[14:08] <m3F> ok, my real problem is sound system, it does not play surround
[14:08] <alberto> Via Unichrome
[14:08] <m3F> karmic does not play surround through amarok
[14:08] <BluesKaj> this old KB is letting me down , needs cleaning
[14:08] <m3F> but phonon test front and rear very well
[14:09] <amik> alberto: it rocks! (well, what did u expect asking in this channel :-) )
[14:09] <m3F> PulseAudio fails in Kubuntu karmic
[14:09] <alberto> amik: I tried it in same computer (Kde descktop from ubuntu installation and Kubuntu live CD
[14:09] <m3F> by default
[14:10] <amik> alberto: oops, that was to someone else
[14:10] <amik> aLeSD: it rocks! (well, what did u expect asking in this channel :-) )
[14:10] <BluesKaj> javier , open your package manager , which one do you use ?
[14:10] <gl_> alberto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306356
[14:10] <gl_> alberto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[14:10] <m3F> ok, nobody seem to know about sound system in Kubuntu :D
[14:10] <javier> kpackagekit I'm using
[14:11] <alberto> It isn't my problem gl_
[14:11] <amik> m3F: sorry...
[14:11] <javier> when writting "sudo kate /etc/apt/source.list in konsole I get: "error: /var/tmp/kdecache-jacier is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0"
[14:11] <amik> alberto: ok, so u boot from the livecd... what exactly happens?
[14:11] <javier> "error: /tmp/kde-javier is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0"
[14:12] <alberto> I watch KDM
[14:13] <jimmy51_> hello, i just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and have lost my sound.  what do i do?
[14:13] <alberto> d
[14:14] <alberto> what's happening?
[14:14] <alberto>  but when I try login into kubuntu Xorg restart
[14:14] <BluesKaj> javier , no, use the run box , open it with  alt+f2  keys, then copy and paste this path into the box, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:14] <Alcapond> Need some support setting up my WLAN... Does not work out of the box.. Here is some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305941/
[14:15] <javier> BluesKaj, ah, finally, i got it. Thought I did that before.
[14:15] <amik> alberto: so u see the graphic colorful login screen (not a black console?), enter your credentials, and then x restarts and you're back at the same login screen? or somewhere else?
[14:15] <OpenMaster> wowowowow It works!!! It's strange but the network works even if I didn't make anything
[14:15] <Alcapond> And KNetworkmanager does not find any networks nearby
[14:16] <jackrabbit> I need some help setting up a bluetooth headset.  I've tried following the instructions on the forums but no luck
[14:16] <alberto> yes
[14:16] <alberto> I'm back at the same login screen
[14:16] <BluesKaj> javier, look in kpackage kit , choose settings>click on 'edit software sources'
[14:16] <javier> BluesKaj, line 5 (the error one) says "deb karmic main restricted"
[14:16] <jimmy51_> !sound
[14:17] <BluesKaj> javier , delete the line , we'llfix it with the package manager edit
[14:17] <jackrabbit> ubottu: I don't use arts
[14:17] <jimmy51_> hmm... it seems ubottu is telling me to check something that isn't there.
[14:17] <javier> BluesKaj, ok! done
[14:18] <amik> gl_: now that the symptoms are clearer, do u have any ideas for alberto?
[14:18] <jussi01> oh dear, that factoid needs updating
[14:18] <jussi01> jimmy51_: Im going to get that fixed soon, sorry for the inconvenince
[14:18] <javier> BluesKaj: I'm in kpackage kir software sources
[14:18] <jimmy51_> jussi01: hehe, no problem.  it's day 2 or a new release :)
[14:18] <jackrabbit> I've added http://paste.ubuntu.com/305944/ to my .asoundrc file
[14:18] <gl_> amik: no, sorry, I thought it was a video driver problem, but he can see the log in in graphic mode anyway
[14:19] <jackrabbit> and when I connect to my BT headset I can't see any btheadset device
[14:19] <jussi01> jimmy51_: thing is, arts hasnt been around for who knows how long. anyway, Ill fix it. moving on.
[14:19] <Ev0luti0n_> Fellas...
[14:19] <Ev0luti0n_> Anybody using tvtime or kdetv?
[14:19] <jimmy51_> jussi01: i'm running an intel HDA and i remember i had to do something trick for 8.04 to work.  i had heard 9.10 switches from alsa to pulse... is that true?  i don't know what pulse is, but i'm thinking it didn't work
[14:20] <BluesKaj> ok javier , check mark all the boxes including the Other software tab , except the cdrom ,
[14:20] <jussi01> jimmy51_: nope, in kubuntu we have phonon.
[14:20] <alberto> gl_: i can use GNOME but no KDE
[14:20] <amik> alberto: can u look at the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log? are there any errors there when u try the login?
[14:20] <jussi01> jimmy51_: please make sure pulse isnt installed with sudo apt-get-remove --purge pulseaudio
[14:20] <jussi01> jimmy51_: please make sure pulse isnt installed with sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[14:20] <gl_> alberto: have you tried the kubunu-notebook CD?
[14:20] <jussi01> jimmy51_: second one is ocrrected :)
[14:20] <alberto> no gl_
[14:20] <javier> BluesKaj: ok, done it
[14:20] <jackrabbit> jussi01: that might be my problem too
[14:21] <BluesKaj> javier close kate and the packagekit
[14:21] <gl_> alberto: I think that it has a different installer
[14:21] <javier> BluesKaj: ok
[14:21] <k4ever> hi all.  i'm using kde 4.3.2 on jaunty (Kubuntu packages).  i don't get icons for k3b.  did google search but can't find a solution.  anyone know how to fix this?
[14:21] <avihay> anyone knows why firefox tryes to open most of the files I download with openoffice?
[14:21] <alberto> but I don't use a netbook
[14:21] <BluesKaj> javier , in the konsole , sudo aptitude update
[14:22] <jimmy51_> hehe
[14:22] <javier> BluesKaj: doesn't work, looks like it's a bigger problem... Now line 6 is the one wrong...
[14:23] <rohan> is there any repo, or any PPA, which has the older 0.8.x series of kaffeine? i don't like the new 1.0x series.
[14:23] <jimmy51_> should amarok be asking to use the kwallet?
[14:24] <javier> BluesKaj: I wonder if it is something with that URI?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> javier open your sources.list again , and copy and pastebin it
[14:24] <javier> ok
[14:26] <Alcapond> wlan not working after installation of karmic koala - need some help please! Thx!
[14:26] <OpenMaster> :( rebooting the pc the broblem is there
[14:26] <javier> BluesKaj: oh no, again. When I open it (by ALT+F2) I get empty kate document
[14:27] <BluesKaj> javier,  kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list ,make sure you have that exactly
[14:28] <BluesKaj> javier, copy and paste that into the run box
[14:28] <javier> BluesKaj: sorry, my mistake
[14:28] <javier> I have it
[14:29] <javier> do you want me to copy the whole text?
[14:29] <alberto> any ideas?
[14:30] <ferran> hi
[14:30] <BluesKaj> javier yes , and pastebin it..you know about pastebin , right ?
[14:31] <javier> BLuesKaj, oh no, I dont know what is pastebin...
[14:31] <BluesKaj> !paste | javier
[14:32] <gl_> alberto: not sure wheter one can do runlevel 3 in ubuntu, but what I would do is to boot in console mode then try 'startx' and see what errors are shown if any.
[14:32] <javier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305951/
[14:32] <BluesKaj> javier, copy and paste the text into there,  then , copy the resulting url and number and paste that in here
[14:32] <alberto> Xorg.0.log hasn't any error
[14:33] <k4ever> any help with missing icons on k3b??
[14:34] <javier> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305951/
[14:34] <BluesKaj> javier, delte all the text in your sources.list , close kate , then go into you r packagekit and do the software sources edit like before
[14:35] <BluesKaj> delete
[14:35] <roKB_> i can't find lanshark, plz someone provide a pointer where i  can find lanshark
[14:36] <carpii_> have you ever heard of google?
[14:36] <llutz> roKB_: http://lanshark.29a.ch/de/Downloads.html
[14:38] <roKB_> thanks
[14:38] <javier> BluesKaj: ok, I've it
[14:39] <javier> BluesKaj: just, now, in other sources, I don't have anything. But maybe that's ok also?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> javier, no list in Other sources?
[14:40] <javier> nop..
[14:41] <BluesKaj> ok javier now try , sudo aptitude update , in the konsole
[14:41] <javier> yes, that works now
[14:41]  * roKB_ sehwag and gambhir out. India need a matchwinner
[14:42] <BluesKaj> javier, now check your sources.list again
[14:42] <thibaut_> Hi all, I'm trying to install XAMPP on Kubuntu Hardy but I don't manage to find a downloadable archive. Could anyone link a valide host please?
[14:43] <graytech> Does kubunty work on systems with softwareRAID?
[14:43] <graytech> err ... kubuntu
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !raid
[14:43] <amik> anyone got karmic working on GMA500 (poulsbo)?
[14:43] <javier> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305959/
[14:44] <graytech> I get it to work find when installing Ubuntu server ... but as soon as I add kubuntu-desktop, I can't login
[14:45] <amik> in konversation is there some way to highlight all messages written by me (like ones containing my nick are highlited)?
[14:45] <javier> Oh, I'm very very sorry, I just have to go... Thanks very very much BluesKaj, for all, I'll try to continue later. Thanks a lot!
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ok, javier delete that , and copy this into your sources.list  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305962/
[14:48] <graytech> ubottu, I'm looking at those articles now (I've already seen them however) ... I have tried installing x-window-system-core before kubuntu-desktop and always end up wiht the same problem ... It seems the desktop version does not have RAID capabilities ... I just want the KDE desktop ... that's all.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> amik, there used to be a way to give your text a diff colour than just black ...dunno for sure if that option is till available
[14:50] <BluesKaj> hmm....
[14:51] <graytech> hmmm .. is there a server version of Kubuntu? maybe that might help me.
[14:52] <amik> graytech: there is only one server version (I thought it was headless...)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> amik, look in konversation settings >configure konversation > colors >check ,use custom colors blah blah, choose channel message option and set the colour for whatever you want
[14:54] <graytech> I may be missing somethign, but I have not been able to find sofwareRADE features on the worstation version of any *buntus ... am I missing something?
[14:55] <thibaut_> excuse-me, anyone using XAMPP?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> oops amik .bah  that changes everyone's text ..
[14:57] <amik> BluesKaj: thanx, I saw that checkbox but its text dosn't imply anything to do with my messages...
[14:57] <amik> BluesKaj: and, it appears to not have done anything
[14:57] <BluesKaj> yeah, sorry , it doesn't work like i thought it would
[14:58] <graytech> thibut, I have XAMPP running on my pc .. not an umbuntu tool that I'm aware of.
[14:59] <graytech> any ideas about how to get kde running on ubuntu server with sofwareRAID?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> amik you do have diff coloured text when your nick is in the text , right ?
[14:59] <amik> BluesKaj: yep, red (it's default)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:00] <BluesKaj> !server
[15:00] <prv> hi all
[15:00] <prv> How's karmic
[15:00] <graytech> different collored text?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> it's fine
[15:00] <graytech> you can do that with mirc
[15:01] <amik> graytech: thanx, but we're discussin Konversation
[15:01] <illio> When I try to upgrade to 9.10 I get an error 127? Can I upgrade through the shell somehow instead?
[15:01] <graytech> ahhh ... I think it generates the colors using ansi codes
[15:03] <BluesKaj> odd that there's no setting for individual nick text linked colours
[15:04] <graytech> amik, I am unfamiliar with Konversation. but if you have presets, you might try creating some with the proper anci color codes to set colors. for the propers escape sequences, check out http://pueblo.sourceforge.net/doc/manual/ansi_color_codes.html
[15:05] <BluesKaj> illio, it's not advisable , use the update-manager
[15:05] <robin0800> amik I'm pretty sure konversation can color nicks and highlight messages
[15:06] <amik> thanks. I find it strange though that it's not a checkbox option. am I the first to want to be able to follow his own thread conveniently?
[15:06] <graytech> with mirc you get to colors using Ctrl-k
[15:06] <robin0800> amik: it is you just have to look
[15:06] <amik> robin0800: I went through the options, found nick colors, but not message highlighting of my own written messages... maybe I missed it?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> amik, I"ve been wondering about that myself , but there doesn't seem to be an option
[15:08] <graytech> any ideas about my issue? kde on ubuntu server ... or SofwareRAID on kubuntu? ... eather solution will work for me.
[15:08] <robin0800> amik: most irc chanels don't allow colors
[15:08] <graytech> I've been beating my head on this for a day and a half now. Each time I go thourhg a reinstall it takes a coupel hours.
[15:08] <amik> robin0800: I'm not looking for channel colors, but client-side colors, i.e. usability for myself
[15:09] <robin0800> amik: but you can have messages to you highlighted
[15:09] <amik> graytech: don't know much about raid, but it's strange that a desktop environment interferes with it :-/
[15:09] <carpii_> gray, i think you just need to sudo apt-get install kde-core
[15:09] <amik> robin0800: yes, that's on by default. but to follow my threads, I'd like to see both ways...
[15:09] <graytech> it does not actualy interfear wiht it. I is just not available during the installation.
[15:10] <robin0800> amik: try looking in notifcations for highlighting
[15:10] <BluesKaj> graytech, the colour codes are fine there many optional colours , it's the implementation option of those colours for one own text that is missing.
[15:10] <amik> robin0800: oooh! I think that's it!
[15:11] <graytech> I have two drives partitioned paired up and parrtitioned as raid1 (mirrored) .. I can do that with the server eddition ... but it does not seem to be available in the desktop eddition.
[15:11] <amik> robin0800: thanks!
[15:11] <yakuzi> graytech: you don't see your hdd's in the partitioning step of the installer and you have something raid alike?
[15:11] <cba123_> For some reason, my screen gets pixelated and I don't know why, seems to be some times when I play media, I currently I have kubuntu karmic nvidia 190 (just released on nvidia.com) drivers, happened when I had kubuntu jaunty and 185 drivers (with the hardware drivers from restricted drivers manager)  too http://imagebin.ca/view/HN8QHY.html
[15:11] <graytech> I just want to keep my raid configuration and have the kde desktop
[15:11] <robin0800> amik: Your nick should always be in the same color
[15:11] <amik> BluesKaj: it works! what robin said!
[15:12] <amik> robin0800: huh?
[15:12] <amik> BluesKaj: the checkbox at the bottom
[15:12] <graytech> I see the hdd's in the partitioning step. its just that there is no raid option when installing desktp (at least none I could see).
[15:12] <robin0800> graytech: you need the alternate cd
[15:13] <yakuzi> if you are using the normal install cd that's ok...if you want raid you need the alternate install cd
[15:13] <graytech> the drives are already configured as raid from a previous Suse installation. I have installed ubuntu server and the raid partion was found.
[15:13] <graytech> robin: that is the only thing I have not tried .. lol
[15:13] <BluesKaj> ok robin0800, amik , thanks :)
[15:14] <graytech> does the alternate version come with a gui? more specificaly kde?
[15:14] <graytech> robin:I'm assuming kubuntu alternate? .. right?
[15:14] <robin0800> graytech: yes
[15:14] <robin0800> graytech: yes
[15:15] <graytech> right on!!! ... ok. I'm off to see if this works. I will let you all know if you are still here when I'm dong ;) ... thanks again
[15:15] <BluesKaj> amik , strange that that nick text option isn't in the colors section , wth are they thinking :)
[15:15] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[15:16] <amik> BluesKaj: yep... although 'highlighting' is also relevant... let's call it 50-50 blame on us and them :-)
[15:17] <contrast> Is anyone here using Compiz with a panel set to autohide? It doesn't seem to work very well, wondering if there's a known workaround.
[15:18] <omar> I try to login into my KDE session, the splash screen appears and then the desktop does not appear.
[15:18] <omar> Only KdeWallet appears prompting me for the password.
[15:18] <omar> No desktop at all.
[15:18] <omar> Please?
[15:18] <omar> Any help?
[15:19] <yakuzi> anyone has had this problems already? I've a fresh 9.10 install with my / on ext4 and: i can't run aptitude update correctly, it hangs on something " trying to connect to be.archive.ubuntu.com", i can't connect to my wireless with hidden ssid (i know is networkmanager problem, but the sugested work around doesn't work...i can't install it so it seems ?) and, as extra...if i want to play mp3 or something, it says install extra codecs ets,
[15:19] <yakuzi>  i can do that...but then it says they are already installed...but it won't work (and i can't install kubuntu-restricted-extras...it's not there...)
[15:20] <contrast> yakuzi: I'd start by trying a different mirror for archive.ubuntu.com. Sounds like the one you're using may be kinda borked.
[15:20] <omar> The desktop fails to load when I log in to my KDE session, any help please?
[15:20] <amik> yakuzi: maybe try a different mirror?
[15:20] <amik> omar: on a fresh install? upgrade? karmic?
[15:21] <omar> amik: upgrade, karmix
[15:21] <omar> karmic*
[15:21] <amik> omar: did it stop working right with the upgrade?
[15:21] <illio> I'm getting the error "Distribution upgrade process exited with code 127" whenever I try to upgrade from the upgrade manager.. so even though it's not advisable, it seems I don't have much choice but to try and upgrade from the shell.. how do I do that?
[15:21] <omar> amik: yes, ufter the upgrade.
[15:21] <omar> after*
[15:22] <contrast> omar: Try running this: "mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma* ~" - this will pretty much reset your desktop settings to the defaults.
[15:23] <Guest40625> wetawta
[15:23] <contrast> omar: Then run "plasma-desktop" and see if that fixed it.  I've had these same symptoms, so I'm just suggesting what I did to get it working first. ;)
[15:25] <contrast> omar: Any luck?
[15:25] <javier> BluesKaj: Oh, thank, I did it. Everything is fine I think, just I need the KEY so some of them
[15:25] <amik> contrast: he said he got a blank screen, with a kwallet prompt - probably something that starts with the session, no?
[15:26] <omar> contrast: is says "not such file or directory"
[15:26] <ghostcube> anyone noticed that webcams not working with the current uvc driver in karmic ?
[15:26] <ghostcube> my can gets startet but no picture worked fine in jaubty
[15:27] <contrast> Point.
[15:28] <chimp-champ> Hi, my Karmic upgrader crashed after some time so  try to ugrade with the shell
[15:29] <chimp-champ> I think the upgrader crashed during installing the new programms
[15:29] <amik> omar: u tried the first mv command contrast wrote, yes?
[15:29] <contrast> omar: Ok, open up Dolphin (Alt+F2 -> dolphin), View -> Show Hidden Files -> go into .kde/share/config, then move anything starting with "plasma" in its name to your home folder, then go to .kde/share/apps/ and do the same.
[15:30] <chimp-champ> so I run sudo apt-get update  it failed as well
[15:30] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get -f install
[15:31] <chimp-champ> after some links of the package archives it says:  Couldnt get /var/lib/dpkg/lock - (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:31] <yakuzi> ok the problem with mp3, aptitude update, install firefox are solved with using an other server...i even could install the network-manager-gnome...but now i want to use that so i can use my wireless, how do i do that?
[15:31] <chimp-champ> Its a German translation from me
[15:32] <chimp-champ> it also says: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:32] <chimp-champ> But the updater etc. are closed
[15:32] <chimp-champ> can you hep me?
[15:33] <amik> chimp-champ: is this after what ghostcube said?
[15:33] <omar> contrast: actually I did it. But when I try alt-f2 and type "plasma-destop" it starts for a second and then gets back to darkness.
[15:34] <chimp-champ> there comes the same message
[15:34] <amik> omar: try ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x, it should take u back to the login screen
[15:35] <contrast> omar: Alt+F2 -> konsole -> "plasma-desktop" - pastebin the output.
[15:35] <contrast> !paste
[15:35] <omar> amik: it doesn't work.
[15:35] <alberto> hi again
[15:35] <amik> contrast: how should he kill the session?
[15:35] <omar> contrast: I can't see anything.
[15:35] <amik> hi alberto
[15:35] <alberto> I can't startup KDE with DRI enabled
[15:36] <contrast> amik: If it's just a black screen, plasma-desktop isn't running.
[15:37] <amik> alberto: any progress since before?
[15:37] <alberto> yes
[15:38] <alberto> I can start KDE
[15:38] <alberto> without DRI :'(
[15:38] <amik> omar: there's probably a shorter way to do it (not sure what state you're in), but try restarting. when u login next time, your default desktop should be recreated automatically.
[15:39] <amik> alberto: that's progress! :-)
[15:39] <amik> alberto: maybe it's the drivers, perhaps the link gl (I think) gave u earlier?
[15:40] <omar> amik: http://pastebin.com/m6aad572f
[15:41] <alberto> amik; i don't understand the problem
[15:41] <graytech> update, so far so good, alternate has RAID options in partioner :D
[15:42] <alberto> When i run GNOME Dri and Xorg works
[15:42] <alberto> With KDE crash
[15:42] <amik> alberto: I don't understand the problem either :-(
[15:43] <alberto> kwin effects are disabled
[15:44] <alberto> Xorg crash ONLY with a application which use 3D
[15:44] <alberto> like Compiz
[15:44] <alberto> like kde-decoration
[15:44] <alberto> during startup
[15:44] <omar> amik: any idea?
[15:45] <alberto> I think that the problem are in desktop effects
[15:45] <alberto> on KDE
[15:46] <amik> omar: I'm not sure what that means
[15:48] <varanus> alberto: what grafics card do you have?
[15:49] <alberto> Via Unichrome
[15:49] <amik> omar: maybe try renaming the entire ~/.kde forlder to a backup name and try over? just to make sure it's not a partial-configuration problem?
[15:51] <alberto> one moment
[15:51] <djSupport-linux> hiya quick questioon what does the sh command do and whats it actually stand for?
[15:52] <amik> djSupport-linux: it's a shell interpreter, and runs the following command under the shell. try 'man sh' to read about it...
[15:52] <djSupport-linux> amik: thank you
[15:53] <amik> djSupport-linux: try 'man <command>' on any command to read about it :-)
[15:54] <djSupport-linux> amik: thanks
[15:55] <amik> omar: any better?
[15:56] <avihay> anyone knows why firefox tryes to open most of the files I download with openoffice?
[15:56] <amik> avihay: which types of files?
[15:57] <avihay> umm, .deb
[15:57] <omar> amik: I also have Gnome installed. So I guess I'll log in their and re-install kde all together.
[15:57] <avihay> not just, but thats the last one
[15:57] <omar> amik: what do you think?
[15:57] <omar> there*
[15:58] <amik> amik: it just doesn't have the associations in place... u can choose a different program in the dialog that opens, or (as in .deb) save it and run it elsewhere
[15:58] <amik> omar: oh... is this an ubuntu install or kubuntu install? how did u add the other?
[15:59] <avihay> well, some times, in some file formats, it doesn't offer me options, or bluntly ignores me
[15:59] <avihay> and my name aint amik, amik
[15:59] <amik> amgarchIn9: ma laasot
[16:00] <omar> amik: it's an Ubuntu install. But later I apt-get installed Kubuntu desktop before the upgrade .
[16:00] <amik> avihay: yes, it's sometimes annoying, but I at least always got the option to save and handle it externally
[16:00] <omar> amik: it worked pretty well, until I upgraded.
[16:00] <amik> avihay: it's not as friendly as in windows, but it's not a serious problem (for me) :-)
[16:01] <omar> amik: I also did the same thing to the machine I'm talking to you from. Though I didn't face any problems with it even after the upgrade.
[16:02] <omar> amik: what do you think?
[16:02] <amik> omar: hmmm... you've just made a backup of ur kde folder anyway, so u can try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop, and maybe returning from backup (if there was something worth saving in there)
[16:03] <avihay> I'm just sick and tired of it
[16:03] <omar> amik: no, I didn't do the backup. Though I don't really have anything to loose.
[16:04] <avihay> amik: do you speak Hebrew?
[16:04] <omar> amik: I can reconfigure everything when it's fixed.
[16:04] <amik> omar: ok then, good luck (sorry we couldn't find a simpler solution)
[16:04] <lilyshu> i need help. java applet on ubuntu makes firefox not responding. thanks
[16:07] <ice-nine> Hi.  Wondering how people feel about Amarok 2.2.  I did not like Amarok 2.0 at all, and have been using 1.4 ever since.
[16:07] <shadeslayer> ice-nine: 2.2 is quite good imho
[16:07] <shadeslayer> ice-nine: but since ive never used 1.4 my opinion really doesnt matter :P
[16:08] <ice-nine> shadeslayer:  do you have an mp3 player that you use with 2.2.  The integration of my ipod was horrible in 2.0.
[16:09] <shadeslayer> ice-nine: my ipod nano works fine
[16:09] <dwidmann> ice-nine: 2.2 is much, much better
[16:09] <shadeslayer> ice-nine: its just a matter a figuring out a new interface
[16:10] <dwidmann> the defaults really haven't changed much ... but you the customizability has. You can  pretty much lay it out however you want to now
[16:10] <omar> amik: how do I totally remove kde?
[16:10] <amik> omar: if u installed kubuntu-desktop, u can apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[16:11] <omar> amik: even re-installing doesn't work..
[16:11] <DHillier> hullo, newbie just upgraded to 9.10 and kde's not loading, any help?
[16:12] <amik> omar: and u (re)moved your ~/.kde folder too?
[16:13] <ice-nine> How is the new version of KDE in the 9.10 release?  Last time I tried KDE 4, it was quite buggy.
[16:13] <Asad2005> I want to transfer my settings from my old /home/user/.evolution folder
[16:14] <Laeborg> ice-nine, KDE 4.3 is AWSUM!
[16:14] <Asad2005> How do i do it from 9.04 to 9.10
[16:14] <omar> amik: yeah I just did. One second.
[16:14] <Laeborg> I really like it :D
[16:14] <kgeek> does someone know good LAN chat application ??
[16:15] <pera> Avant Window Navigator vähä vaikeuksia ton ohjelman kans, miten siihen palkkiin saa esim firefoxin tahi rythmboxin lisättyyy?
[16:15] <ice-nine> Has anyone used this 9.10 release with multiple monitor configurations?
[16:15]  * kgeek wants to know some good lan chat program
[16:16] <kgeek> hey ubottu help me
[16:16] <omar> kgeek: ubottu is a bot.
[16:16] <amik> kgeek: I guess some would suggest an xmpp server with any compatible client
[16:16] <kgeek> that's why i asked her
[16:17] <kgeek> i don't want to run a server for lan chatting
[16:17] <kgeek> i am searching for Achat alternative for linux
[16:17] <kgeek> Achat is for windows only
[16:19] <ice-nine> kgeek, we used to use a chat program called ytalk
[16:19] <ice-nine> I doubt it is still around though.
[16:20] <kgeek> thanks for pointer, googling it
[16:20] <DHillier> just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 and I'm getting the command prompt. How can I get KDE back?
[16:20] <amik> kgeek: and there are ancient xterm and variants I guess
[16:21] <omar> amik: ahh... finally. :)
[16:21] <amik> kgeek: xchat, that is
[16:21] <amik> omar: what did it??
[16:21] <omar> amik: re-installation.
[16:21] <amik> omar: u said it failed too before... what did u try afterwards?
[16:22] <kgeek> amik: thanks
[16:23] <omar> amik: because I did not remove the .kde folder from home.
[16:23] <amik> omar: ah... so maybe it would have worked before the reinstall too :-)
[16:23] <omar> amik: well,. perhaps. :)
[16:24] <omar> amik: but that was a good experiment nonethe less. ;)
[16:24] <amik> omar: but as long as it works... congratulations!
[16:24] <omar> amik: yeah, man.
[16:24] <omar> amik: thanks. :)
[16:25] <amik> omar: I don't feel all that useful yet... but I think I'm upgrading from noob to medium user :)
[16:27] <omar> amik: that's good. ;)
[16:28] <amik> this channel really helps... I get to both help ppl with things I've encountered before, and learn from others helping others. and once in a while someone helps me too ;-)
[16:29] <amik> so, anyone got karmic working on GMA500?
[16:31] <VivaVista> can anyone help? I copied the contents of 9.10 in a USB key and chose Demo and Installation through WUBI but its not doing anything
[16:31] <Hardyhorn> lol
[16:32] <VivaVista> Anyone? :|
[16:32] <Hardyhorn> did you just copy the contents of the cd straight onto your usb key?
[16:32] <MsMaco> VivaVista: are you sure your computer can boot from usb?
[16:32] <MsMaco> neither of my laptops can
[16:33] <VivaVista> Yes I booted lots of linux fine before
[16:33] <VivaVista> Linux distros
[16:33] <cba123_> For some reason, my screen gets pixelated and I don't know why, seems to be some times when I play media, I currently I have kubuntu karmic nvidia 190 (just released on nvidia.com) drivers, happened when I had kubuntu jaunty and 185 drivers (with the hardware drivers from restricted drivers manager)  too http://imagebin.ca/view/HN8QHY.html
[16:33] <amik> VivaVista: had the same problem with wubi on jaunty, it showed an error in the log file that looked like a bug. I was hoping they fixed it by now...
[16:33] <VivaVista> It works with "install within windows"
[16:33] <Hardyhorn> VivaVista: you should use the usb creator tool in ubuntu. not sure if that's what you did
[16:33] <VivaVista> but I don't want that I tried "demo and installation" it says reboot now and it chose that option but it doesn't do anything
[16:34] <VivaVista> No I just used WUBI.exe , I thought WUBI would create a bootable copy or something
[16:34] <amik> u don't need boot from usb to use wubi, it's run from within windows
[16:34] <VivaVista> I mean, isn't that what its ofr?
[16:34] <VivaVista> for*
[16:34] <kgeek> amik: i asked for LAN chatting program, not Internet chatting
[16:34] <kgeek> amik: xchat is irc client
[16:34] <amik> kgeek: no, not that xchat, the original ancient xchat
[16:35] <Hardyhorn> VivaVista: wubi.exe is used to install ubuntu inside windows. the usb creator tool is to make a bootable ubuntu usb. whch do you want to do?
[16:35] <amik> kgeek: a little console one-on-one chat thing
[16:35] <VivaVista> I want to create a bootable USB,
[16:35] <VivaVista> But what about the "Demo and Installation" option on WUBI?
[16:35] <Hardyhorn> well, your pc won't pick it up as a bootable usb if you just copied the files straight over
[16:35] <kgeek> amik: can u provide link for ancient xchat
[16:36] <amik> wubi installs k/ubuntu on the hard disk, but without a separate partition (as if it were a windows program, but u can dual boot straight into it)
[16:36] <Hardyhorn> i think the "demo and installation" option on wubi assumes that you're using a bootable cd
[16:36] <amik> to make a bootable usb, use usb-creator, or in karmic theres a 'usb startup creator' in the menus
[16:36] <Hardyhorn> which is not what you're using, therefore your problem
[16:37] <VivaVista> I will try Ubuntu USB creator and see how it goes...
[16:37] <Hardyhorn> ok, that should work
[16:37] <amik> kgeek: not sure I can, it's something I remember from maybe 15 years ago :-)
[16:38] <DoubleD84> what's a good virtual drive program for KDE?
[16:39] <MsMaco> DoubleD84: virtual drive? like dropbox-type thing? i dont know any targetting Qt...
[16:40] <DoubleD84> just anything with gui front-end that I can mount images with
[16:40] <ivan__> .
[16:40] <VivaVista> Quick question
[16:40] <DoubleD84> I found kiso, but that doesn't look like it's been touched in 4yrs
[16:40] <VivaVista> where can I find the USB creator, google brings up I guess ubuntu packages for the program
[16:41] <amik> VivaVista: u can install the usb-creator package (apt-get install usb-creator, or from kpackagekit, etc)
[16:41] <mushroomblue> failing usb-creator, you can use unetbootin
[16:42] <mushroomblue> which is cross-platform, if you're stuck doing it from a Winders box.
[16:42] <VivaVista> I'm using windows at the moment, is there an .Exe version?
[16:42] <mushroomblue> yep.
[16:42] <VivaVista> ok
[16:42] <VivaVista> UNETBootin it is then
[16:42] <mushroomblue> I think it's unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[16:43] <mushroomblue> just download the iso, and manually write to USB. don't use the drop-down menu. :)
[16:43] <mushroomblue> unetbootin, if you use the "select distribution" drop-down, re-downloads the image.
[16:45] <graytech> I just got finished installing Kubuntu Alternate. I'm still having the same problem. The KDE login comes up. but when I login, the screen goes blank and then I'm returned to the login screen. It's like the gui is not loading
[16:45] <graytech> any ideas?
[16:46] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[16:46] <Hardyhorn> sounds like there's a problem with xorg, so yes, that would be the gui not loading
[16:46] <mushroomblue> either a problem with xorg, or kdm
[16:47] <Hardyhorn> which graphics card do you have?
[16:47] <graytech> hmmmm ... it is a fresh install. I even reformated root.
[16:47] <mushroomblue> Hardyhorn: if it was a graphics card problem, would it even come up to KDM?
[16:47] <graytech> You know, this is an old mothballed machine, I'm pulling out of retirement. I'm not really sure. I can find out thorugh ;)
[16:48] <Hardyhorn> it might be because his xorg.conf isn't set up correctly for his graphics card. i've had that problem before
[16:48] <rork> does it always take a couple of seconds (about 11) to load a menuitem in kmenueditor?
[16:48] <graytech> I'm going to have to look inside the box ... one sec ;)
[16:48] <mushroomblue> Hardyhorn: you've had the problem where Xorg will load, KDM will start, and then Xorg will die as soon as you login?
[16:48] <amik> kgeek: I just found http://retromessenger.sourceforge.net/, maybe it'll help?
[16:48] <Hardyhorn> yup, exactly that
[16:49] <mushroomblue> wouldn't that be, at best, an xinitrc problem?
[16:49] <mushroomblue> because Xorg not loading would be choking on graphics driver. and that'd happen long before you got a login prompt.
[16:49] <mushroomblue> you'd see an error about no screens found.
[16:50] <Hardyhorn> hmmm i think you're right. i've had multiple graphics problems. i think i'm confusing them with each other
[16:50] <fl4sh> hi guys, I need help again :(
[16:50] <fl4sh> I've upgraded to 9.10
[16:50] <fl4sh> but now my wlan doesn't work!
[16:51] <mushroomblue> graytech: create another user, see if it works?
[16:51] <Hardyhorn> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[16:51] <fl4sh> I'm currently in windows :-/
[16:51] <fl4sh> kubuntu 9.10
[16:51] <mushroomblue> graytech: like, at a terminal, sudo -i, then adduser <username>
[16:51] <Hardyhorn> oh. my wlan didnt work with kubuntu 9.10 either
[16:51] <Hardyhorn> havent solved it yet
[16:51] <mushroomblue> graytech: then try to log in via KDM with that new user.
[16:52] <fl4sh> well, it does find the wlans' ssid
[16:52] <fl4sh> but it can't connect
[16:52] <Hardyhorn> yes, same here. once i've added the wlan connection it's not in the list
[16:52] <kgeek> amik: thanks for ur effort
[16:52] <Hardyhorn> but it finds my router
[16:52] <graytech> forgive me .. I was under the desk looking at the computer ...
[16:53] <amik> kgeek: I'd be happy to hear your solution when u find it :-)
[16:53] <fl4sh> maybe it's just a wrong driver?
[16:53] <graytech> I'm going to tey the new user idea. It may be pulling legacy information from the user on the home volume. it was used in antoehr installation.
[16:53] <Hardyhorn> i doubt it. if the driver was wrong it wouldnt even be able to pick up the ssids
[16:54] <fl4sh> good arguement :D
[16:54] <amgarchIn9> anymody knows how to disable UbuntuOne applet from starting on login in KDE sessions?
[16:54] <graytech> btw ... the computer is a white box with an onboard graphics connection. need to do a little research to find out what it is using.
[16:54] <Hardyhorn> it's a problem with kubuntu specificall. cause under ubuntu 9.10 my wlan works perfectly
[16:54] <graytech> may be back shortly ;)
[16:54] <fl4sh> damn :-/
[16:55] <fl4sh> does lan work?
[16:55] <fl4sh> didn't have time to test it so far
[16:55] <Hardyhorn> lan works yeah
[16:55] <Hardyhorn> connected via lan right now :)
[16:56] <fl4sh> I've got the damned router in our restaurants middle :D
[16:56] <fl4sh> I can't walk in right now :-/
[16:56] <amik> amgarchIn9: I don't know what that is, but if it has any settings or configuration, it might be there (maybe in a right click menu?). That being said, the ~/.kde/Autostart folder contains references to all apps that start with kde...
[16:56] <amik> amgarchIn9: and they may have added it to the system settings too at some point...
[16:57] <fl4sh> and when will this bug (?) get fixed?
[16:58] <cba123_> amgarchIn9, It should be under the system settings, there should be an "autostart" option
[16:58] <Hardyhorn> no idea. i still want to see if i can figure out what's wrong
[16:58] <Hardyhorn> or maybe get a workaround
[16:59] <gh0zt> is kubuntu interface really confusing or am i just really stupid?
[16:59] <fl4sh> Hardyhorn: do you want to tell me when you've got the solution? :P
[16:59] <cba123_> gh0zt, Neither, you are not used to kde
[17:00] <amgarchIn9> amik: that is the new thing in 9.10, like Dropbox, only less stable. You cannot even uninstall it if you want to keep "ubuntu-desktop". I cheked the usual suspects ~/.kde/Autostartr, ~/.kde/share/autostart
[17:00] <VivaVista> ok great
[17:00] <VivaVista> I booted up in USB it worked =D
[17:00] <VivaVista> Thank you
[17:00] <VivaVista> 9.10 looks great!
[17:00] <amgarchIn9> gh0zt: you really want an answer from us?
[17:00] <cba123_> amgarchIn9, Did you check in the system-settings configuration thing?
[17:01] <gh0zt> i'm trying to use firefox from live usb, i click internet, click install firefox and then... where does it go to launch?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> VivaVista: :D
[17:01] <VivaVista> hi :D
[17:01] <shadeslayer> gh0zt: hmm... well it should launch a fancy installer
[17:02] <gh0zt> it did
[17:02] <shadeslayer> gh0zt: click install,kpackagekit should launch in a few secs
[17:02] <amgarchIn9> amik, cba123_: I see it  now, thanks, where are those settings stored then? I thought that is what the autostart directories are for
[17:03] <gh0zt> oh i see, it then removes the installer and puts it where the installer was, i expected it to be in the application thing on right
[17:03] <shadeslayer> gh0zt: yep :)
[17:03] <shadeslayer> gh0zt: btw i would recommend rekonq as a browser ( its in the repos too :D )
[17:04] <VivaVista> Another question. I have 8 GB unpartitioned space on my HD, if I install Kubuntu there and like it, can I format the rest of my hard drive windows partition and extend Kubuntu's partition?
[17:05] <shadeslayer> VivaVista: that is possible only if the 2 partitions are side by side
[17:05] <gh0zt> hmm right click on desktop does nothing, what a waste of a mouse button
[17:05] <gh0zt> lol
[17:05] <amik> gh0zt: if ur original question was about kubuntu-netbook - I'd definitely say yes...
[17:05] <shadeslayer> gh0zt: 0.0
[17:05] <shadeslayer> gh0zt: right click works here....
[17:05] <gh0zt> yeah it's the netbook version
[17:05] <Bsims> I just upgraded to karmic and everything works but my keyboard lights... numlock nor capslock work anyone have any ideas?
[17:06] <PRO-DRIVE> guys whats wrong with 9.10 ?!! it doesn't complete the installation with me ! ?
[17:06] <kaddi> I think I found a bug in plasma-desktop, but I'm not sure if it is of any relevance. :p I launched plasma-desktop from terminal and now it brings the following errormessage:couldn't create image from  "/home/jan/branding.png". I have no account named jan on my PC
[17:06] <shadeslayer> PRO-DRIVE: did you check the ISO and the CD ?
[17:07] <PRO-DRIVE> shadeslayer: i use usb memory
[17:07] <shadeslayer> PRO-DRIVE: ok,after you boot the usb,run a check on it
[17:07] <amik> gh0zt: ah... my first 60-second experience with kubuntu-netbook was... WTF?
[17:08] <PRO-DRIVE> shadeslayer:  and the MD5 sum is the same !
[17:08] <shadeslayer> PRO-DRIVE: it should be a option like : Check CD : or something
[17:08] <gh0zt> amik: i'm done with it, trashed it already it was driving me crazy
[17:08] <fl4sh> has everybody problems with the wlan in 9.10?
[17:08] <amik> gh0zt: there's #kubuntu-netbook channel, though it's mostly dead...
[17:09] <gh0zt> amik: i'm not surprised it's dead, most people probably did what i just did
[17:09] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: nopw
[17:09] <amik> gh0zt: luckily, I tried it in virtualbox first - and I don't intend on installing it... I'll go for the regular version
[17:09] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: what card?
[17:09] <fl4sh> atheros 5005g
[17:09] <amik> gh0zt: maybe we can convince them to redo it :-)
[17:09] <gh0zt> amik: it was on my usb key, thank goodness for live versions
[17:09] <fl4sh> it's an older laptop, but it worked with 8 / 9
[17:09] <fl4sh> .04
[17:10] <gh0zt> amik: i might try full blown desktop version though, maybe it's better
[17:10] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[17:11] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported : too
[17:11] <amik> gh0zt: that's what I'll do. if I can get it to work with GMA500 netbook... otherwise the win xp saga continues :-(
[17:11] <Quintasan> gh0zt: It's even written on kubuntu.org, Netbook ain't ready yet, it's just a preview
[17:11] <gh0zt> amik: karmic koala is really nice
[17:12] <gh0zt> Quintasan: i'll try it again when they improve it, no worries i love the other ubuntu stuff
[17:12] <amik> gh0zt: I know, but apparently they dropped support for GMA500 drivers. someone suggested a workaround in launchpad... we'll see.
[17:12] <Bsims> I just upgraded to karmic and everything works but my keyboard lights... numlock nor capslock work anyone have any ideas?
[17:13] <amik> Quintasan: true, but they did release it as a release... it seems as if they did so without anyone giving it a 30-second usability test.
[17:14] <fl4sh> shadeslayer: do I need network connection to do that?
[17:14] <graytech> ok ... I'm back ... seems the new user didn't help with the login prolem
[17:14] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: yeah..
[17:14] <amik> Quintasan: they give the impression that it's not feature-complete, but quite usable.
[17:15] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: it might be a kde n/w manager problem too.... so try installing wicd too
[17:16] <fl4sh> damn :-/ I've got no connection :-/
[17:16] <SJr> I suspect that my upgrade to Karmic didn't go so well, it got locked up a few times, and thten I finally just completed it with dpkg --configure -a, but now my system seems unstable, things like Appport crash, I can't hibernate or suspend to RAM and bring the system back up.
[17:16] <shadeslayer> fl4sh: not even ethernet?
[17:17] <fl4sh> I wasn't able to try yet
[17:17] <fl4sh> Can't reach the router :D
[17:17] <graytech> to recap, I'm not able to login on Kubuntu via the gui. I get the login screen but when I login, the computer things for a bit and then dumps me back to the login screen. I can login ok at the console. just not via gui.
[17:17] <fl4sh> the router is in our restaurants room, I can't just walk through the guys and plug my notebook in :D
[17:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[17:17] <graytech> I created a new user and that didnt' work either. same thing happens with the new user.
[17:18] <CPrgmSwR2> I just learned that I have sound comming out of my headphone jack on my laptop, I would really like for the sound to come out of the speakers instead
[17:18] <BenPA> help ... new version (9.10) will not allow me to boot ...  have dell laptop 2650
[17:19] <shadeslayer> BenPA: whats the exact problem?
[17:20] <BenPA> it  starts to boot and stop at   "starting up ...         kernel 2.6.31-14-generic
[17:20] <hackndoes> sorry for asking such a stupid question but cant find the answer anywhere, where do i get the twitter plasmoid? widget?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> BenPA: can you boot the recovery option?
[17:20] <Blacky_> kde-look.org
[17:21] <shadeslayer> hackndoes: add widget > microblogging widget
[17:21] <BenPA> shadeslayer: hold a sec
[17:21] <kaddi> graytech: there was another person in here the other day that had his home partition on a different partition, he needed to adjust the path and everything was fixed.. maybe you have a similar set up?
[17:21] <shadeslayer> hackndoes: then go to the settings and set the API to twitter or identi.ca
[17:22] <hackndoes> shadeslayer: thanks alot
[17:22] <shadeslayer> hackndoes: no probs :)
[17:22] <graytech> I have the home on a different partition as well . it is on a raid partition.
[17:22] <BenPA> shadeslayer: it stops the recovery mode at .... 0.157734 pci 0000:00:1e.0 PREFETCH window 0x10000000-0x15ffffff
[17:24] <kaddi> graytech: then it might be worth checking if it is mounting the correct partition as home
[17:24] <BenPA> shadeslayer: this it the first boot after install
[17:24] <shadeslayer> BenPA: did it generate any errors during the install?
[17:25] <BenPA> shadeslayer: no
[17:25] <Shaxor_> HI, I got my samba shares to work now but every time i try to move or copy a file over, a authorization dialog comes up and asks for a username and password but i don't know them, is there something im doing wrong?
[17:25] <kaddi> are there no updates from RC to final versions? I haven't gotten any updates in the last 3 days and I'm starting to wonder..
[17:25] <kaddi> if something is wrong with my karmic install or if everything is fine
[17:25] <shadeslayer> kaddi: i got some updates today'
[17:26] <shadeslayer> kaddi: what server?
[17:26] <kaddi> archive.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <BenPA> shadeslayer: FYI the last line I gave was under PCI bridge, secondary bus 0000:02
[17:26] <kaddi> shadeslayer: did you add some servers for the release?
[17:26] <graytech> kaddi: forgive me, I'm a bit of a noob to kubuntu, what do you mean by the "correct partition".
[17:26] <BenPA> shadeslayer: FYI the last line I gave was under IO windiw 0x3000-0x3fff
[17:27] <graytech> kaddi: do you mean all on the same drive?