[05:20] <bazhang> !appdb | dee27
[05:20] <wildbat> said if i am in terminal inside a sshfs mounted directory, and if the connected broken it will be hanged. is there a nice way out , instead of kill the terminal ?
[05:20] <qin> wslayer: That will kill xserver
[05:20] <dusf> xinit: connection to Xserver lost
[05:20] <mikubuntu> my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar.  i searched for this issue on google can't find anything.  anybody familiar with this?
[05:21] <dusf> qin: can i reset my graphics drivers?
[05:21] <BigAl> im new to linux any bright ideas to give me that i can use
[05:21] <bazhang> BigAl, about what
[05:22] <BigAl> well for starters i have ubuntu 10.10
[05:22] <wslayer> qin: i closed it
[05:22] <bazhang> BigAl, please ask a clear question, all on one line
[05:23] <van7hu> !oss
[05:23] <BigAl> i dont know what the hell im doing
[05:23] <van7hu> hello, ubuntu using OSS?
[05:23] <bazhang> !manual | BigAl have a read
[05:23] <dusf> is there a way to reset xorg and my graphics drivers to revert to the default of a new install?
[05:23] <bazhang> !wiki | BigAl and this too may help
[05:24] <bazhang> van7hu, whats the real question. please be clear
[05:24] <wslayer> qin: what`s the correct way to restart now?
[05:24] <bazhang> van7hu, pulseaudio is what ubuntu  uses by default
[05:24] <wslayer> qin: the xserver and gdm
[05:25] <qin> dusf: First move ~/.ICEauthority to _old and try to login
[05:25] <qin> wslayer: Correct?
[05:25] <van7hu> bazhang, thanks for ingo
[05:25] <van7hu> *info
[05:25] <dusf> qin: so sudo mv ~/.ICEauthority ~/iICEauthority_old ?
[05:25] <wslayer> qin: i mean what should i do to restart x and gdm
[05:25] <qin> dusf: Yes.
[05:26] <dusf> qin: brb
[05:26] <dusf> qin: do i need a reboot -h?
[05:26] <qin> wslayer: gdm takes care of xserver, so you can either start gdm, or just x
[05:26] <BigAl> not like that i mean i know how to use it some what i knw how to use the terminal and all i just want to know fun stuff to do with all the new knowledge
[05:27] <qin> dusf: Or start gdm
[05:27] <BiggFREE> How can I config my kernel for ignoring UNITY gui ?  Any option to untick ?
[05:27] <bazhang> BigAl, thats a very broad question. try to refine it a bit please
[05:27] <dusf> qin: i will go with reboot for safe measure
[05:27] <bazhang> BiggFREE, use classic
[05:27] <bazhang> !classic | BiggFREE
[05:27] <BiggFREE> bazhang ... Ok :)
[05:28] <BigAl> cant be more specific i want to kno fun things i can go with linux
[05:28] <wslayer> qin: the best way to start gdm is with sudo service gdm start?
[05:28] <qin> Is it good place to moun about ff...
[05:28] <bazhang> BigAl, thats more of a websearch question, not a tech support question. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <BiggFREE> Thanks a lot :) You solved my problem .... bazhang
[05:28] <wslayer> i would like to know what`s the difference to sudo gdm start and sudo service gdm start
[05:28] <woodyjlw> followed instructions on my bcm43 wireles , sudo apt-get update, and then , sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source, and my wireless worked perfect till I rebooted and now no wireless at all.  what could have happened and how do I get it back?
[05:28] <qin> wslayer: Yes, any other method is bad.
[05:29] <wslayer> thanks
[05:29] <wslayer> now i have a working gui :D
[05:29] <BigAl> screw it then
[05:30] <dusf> qin: i am now speaking to you from irssi running in a terminal emulator within x with my beautiful gui desktop :) tyvm for all your help, you have fixed my pc
[05:30] <qin> dusf: To the next one!
[05:31] <qin> dusf: Without X live is simpler, anyway.
[05:31] <dusf> qin: any idea what was causing the problem?
[05:31] <argmonster> join #lurk
[05:31] <dusf> qin: i like to play world of warcraft, and watch movies :)
[05:31] <bazhang> argmonster, /join
[05:31] <qin> dusf: Hard reboot, most likely
[05:31] <dusf> KM0201, bazhang: fix for my problem is above if you guys are interested.
[05:31] <princess> so aside from the massive info i have about getting my bluetooth to work who can give a idiots straight answer mean 'this is how u do it'
[05:32] <dusf> qin: i did do a hard reboot - my computer would not shut down
[05:32] <dusf> it would just goto the login screen
[05:32] <timh____> I want to install a second distro on a separate partition.   Should I just try burning the flash drive again?
[05:33] <qin> Ok, Have a nice day, off for bit....
[05:33] <dusf> qin: you too friend :)
[05:33] <wslayer> qin: you are cool
[05:34] <wslayer> thanks
[05:34] <bazhang> Addy, I would. you may wish to try unetbootin as well. is this from a windows computer by chance? if so unetbootin.sourceforge.net has it
[05:34] <wslayer> i don`t know how you can be so patient with my noob questions lol
[05:34] <timh____> thx.  I did some looking on the ubuntu site last night.  I'll do some more tonight.
[05:35] <Addy> bazhang: yes. I have 64 bit windows 7 ultimate running right now, and I'd like to dual boot that with 32 bit ubunti. I'll try unetbootin, thanks
[05:35] <wslayer> bazhang: nvidia driver
[05:45] <pie_> How can I set the amount of idle time till the screen automatically locks?
[05:45] <bazhang> pie_, screensaver settings?
[05:45] <IdleOne> in the screen saver settings
[05:46] <pie_> ok well my stuff checks out...whats strange is it's not activatong the screensaver lately...
[05:51] <jeeves_moss> is there a good CLI only MP3 tagging tool that accesses the FreeCDDB to get the track info?  I have over 350Gb that I'd like updated
[05:52] <kiichiro> I am trying to automate my computer for a few days, have it auto login, open up a terminal in a specific folder, issue a command, open teamviewer, and at 11:30 type "stop" and hit enter in the terminal, Also to copy and paste files to a specific place.
[05:52] <jeeves_moss> kiichiro, why not script it, then call it from CRON?
[05:53] <kiichiro> anyone able to show me how to scipt in here
[05:54] <jeeves_moss> kiichiro, what program are you trying to run?
[05:56] <wslayer> even though linux configuration can sometimes be difficult it`s a much better OS than windows will ever be
[05:56] <kiichiro> terminal and teamviewer
[05:56] <kiichiro> and need to start a game server  with the terminal
[05:57] <susundberg> Good morning. Does anyone else use hard-disk spindown in /etc/hdparm.conf -- to me it seems like it is not working on boot, but it does work after suspend (udev rules are buggy?)
[05:57] <susundberg> Or another thing, what is the gnome-power managers 'spin down when possible' suppose to do -- at least it is not working ?
[05:58] <oneliner> hello there i was wondering if anyone would be willing to give me a hand in understanding jack sound server and how to make use of it properly
[06:00] <mikubuntu> my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar.  i searched for this issue on google can't find anything.  anybody familiar with this?
[06:00] <susundberg> oneliner: You could also first try to read the availalble documentation and then ask specific question if there is something unclear
[06:00] <susundberg> oneliner: or do you have one question ready, i can try to answear it ..
[06:01] <woodyjlw> i need help with my wireless card. its hp laptop with bcm4318 card and ubuntu 11.04 . all past versions of ubuntu  always installed the wireless and worked fine. And I had it working on 11.04 till I restarted laptop no nothing
[06:01] <susundberg> woodyjlw: what card to be precise?
[06:01] <Habeeb> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with an audio syncing issue within VLC
[06:01] <woodyjlw> bcm4318
[06:01] <Habeeb> under 11.04
[06:02] <subminuentisch_> mikubuntu had the same  problem with my usb keyboard wich doesent work with any linux ive tried
[06:02] <oneliner> susunberg does it make sense to try to run all audio through jack? if so how should i go about configuring, also the whole thing is muddled with audio device blindness
[06:02] <susundberg> woodyjlw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10757442 ?
[06:03] <susundberg> oneliner: i guess that depends what are you trying to do..
[06:04] <susundberg> oneliner: if your computer is 100% use as home studio recording box, then sure it makes sense. If you use it to watch flash videos, then probably not
[06:04] <susundberg> oneliner: about configuration i hope there is plenty of resources on the manuals
[06:04] <sht> could anyone provide some general insight on as to why ubuntu may hang when doing apt-get install postfix? it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[06:04] <sht> it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[06:05] <oneliner> susundberg: whenever i start the jack server for audio work "common sounds" stop,
[06:05] <sht> whoops
[06:05] <oneliner> you can say i want both audio work and flash streaming
[06:05] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, does the card show up if you pull a "lspci", or "dmesg"?
[06:06] <oneliner> also i guess i want to learn more about how to manage sound hardware better
[06:06] <susundberg> oneliner: yes i guess that is becouse the jack requires control of the sound system as well as the 'common sounds'
[06:06] <susundberg> oneliner: Have you checked google, like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration
[06:06] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss, yes , 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:07] <oneliner> susundberg: yes, i guess am missing lots of background info to turn that into working solutions
[06:07] <susundberg> oneliner: hmm, it might be that 'common sounds' and jack are not working together at all, tough that would be little weird
[06:08] <susundberg> oneliner: http://jackaudio.org/documentation ?
[06:08] <Jakman85> welcome back, dimas_
[06:09] <Jakman85> dimas_, did you get your dj software working?
[06:09] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, do you have the backports repo enabled in APT?
[06:10] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  sudo apt-get update ,  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer , made it work till i restarted laptop
[06:10] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  dont know how do I check
[06:10] <susundberg> oneliner: to be honest, i think there is not very good up-to-date documentation of the sound system in complite
[06:11] <susundberg> oneliner: the jack documentation would be my best guess, and there they say 2003 is the most recent ..
[06:12] <susundberg> oneliner: you might try to look for ubuntu studio documentation also, if there would be some more up-to-date. Or just ask your question here again, i cannot help more, sorry.
[06:12] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, whats the issue?
[06:12] <dimas_> Jakman85 i am trying to applications...i uninstaled pulseaudio cause it conflict with jack , but i am still having some issues i dont understand i had try another streaming software to see if it was the application..in this one i get the sound to play and connect to the server to strean but there is no data going out either
[06:12] <ubuntunoobie2903> Who is in charge of managing the standard ubuntu package repository? How does that work? i.e. there is a game that has had a new version out for awhile, but the old version is still what's in the repository.
[06:13] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss, how do I enable in apt ?
[06:13] <Jakman85> dimas_, what did you have pulseaudio installed?
[06:13] <woodyjlw> RealOpty,  trying to get my bcm4318 wireless working in 11.04
[06:13] <dimas_> Jakman85 i did removed it
[06:14] <RealOpty> missing the firmware or the  b43legacy driver?
[06:14] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, ^
[06:14] <Jakman85> dimas_, I understand, but what was your reasoning in installing it in the first place? (just curious)
[06:15] <dimas_> Jakman85 i belive was installed when i upgrade to ubuntu studio
[06:15] <woodyjlw> RealOpty,  trying but no luck
[06:16] <Jakman85> dimas_, oh, I see. If you run the application from the terminal, do you get any error messages?
[06:16] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, sorry, my fiance needed something.
[06:16] <dimas_> Jakman85 i dont quiet remember really...maybe was because i  found a good place where they were explaining how to get the idjc and skype to work simultaneously
[06:16] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  lol np
[06:17] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, or
[06:17] <RealOpty> load up synaptic package manger
[06:17] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, <zip>  yea, sorry, had to preform my "manly duity"
[06:17] <ubuntunoobie2903> Anyone understand how the package repository is maintained?
[06:17] <Jakman85> dimas_, is the idjc suppose to be a good program? or are you just checking it out?
[06:17] <dimas_> Jakman85 the applications are not the problem...i belive i am missing something in the audio
[06:17] <jeeves_moss> RealOpty, awwww, seriously?  package manager?  CLI!!
[06:17] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, then go to settings -> repo
[06:17] <dimas_> i used it 3 years ago...is very good
[06:18] <Jakman85> well, I made a package of it when I compiled it. If you want it you are welcome to PM me
[06:18] <dimas_> although i tryed another one and i am having the same problem to stream...i do connect to the server but there is not data going out as it doesnt register on the server as streaming
[06:18] <RealOpty> jeeves_moss, too bad ubuntu dosnt support UCI
[06:19] <jeeves_moss> RealOpty, that's half the fun!!
[06:19] <RealOpty> lol
[06:19] <Jakman85> dimas_, that way, if you decide to start from scratch you dont have to try and compile it again
[06:20] <dimas_> Jakman85 the problem is not the application
[06:21] <dimas_> Jakman is the audio server...some how i am not really sending any data out
[06:21] <Jakman85> dimas_, I understand, I am just saying if you so happen to redo Ubuntu entirely, you can just use the package instead of trying to compile it again
[06:21] <Peddy> to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 with a CD, do I use the Desktop CD or alternate install CD?
[06:21] <Jakman85> dimas_, I am not saying this will fix your current issue by any means
[06:21] <dimas_> Jakman85 i have a nice set up for my androids apps
[06:21] <Abhijit> !alternate
[06:22] <Abhijit> Peddy, yes alternate
[06:22] <Peddy> thanks Abhijit
[06:22] <rww> Peddy: alternate, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[06:22] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[06:22] <Peddy> thanks rww :-)
[06:23] <dimas_> Jakman85 just wonder...i am missing the volume control in the desktop and is not on the system either
[06:23] <Jakman85> have you ran dmesg to see if there was an error on the system level for your sound system?
[06:23] <ibragim> Assalamu alaykum
[06:24] <Jakman85> dimas_, please read the last message... i forgot to mention your name :-)
[06:24] <dimas_> Jakman85 i have audio but i dont know where it comes from...i mean alsa...but...does it need something to make able to send data out perhaps?
[06:24] <Tropolis> I need to restart a frozen process via a web interface (which requires user authentication), what's the best way to do this?
[06:24] <dimas_> Jakman85 that sound like a good idea but i dont know how
[06:25] <Jakman85> dimas_, open a terminal, type in dmesg
[06:25] <th^^> any idea where unity saves the launcher layout? it always resets on relogin
[06:25] <bsmith093> im trying to use my offsite server as a proxy through putty, Ive set it up but firefox said its refusing connections?
[06:25] <Tropolis> Users go to a page hosted on the server, login, are presented with a "restart" (or other commands) button, and it runs the command, logging who ran what process
[06:26] <Tropolis> I appreciate if anyone has any suggestions.
[06:26] <Jakman85> Tropolis, I think php has a command to run system commands
[06:27] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  is 11.04 just not compatable with this card anymore.  worked perfect with every other version of ubuntu .  11.04  has been a disaster for me. never had so much trouble from any other version of ubuntu.  only thing I like about 11.04 is opensource ati driver has much better performance 200m or r300 chip from what I can tell so far but sems like nothing ells works right. guess its back to 10.04
[06:27] <Jakman85> Tropolis, will phpMyAdmin not suite your needs?
[06:28] <Tropolis> i don't know, i haven't looked into it
[06:28] <Tropolis> i will now though, I'm just trying to gather suggestions
[06:28] <din> phpmyadmin is a tool for managing mysql databases
[06:29] <Tropolis> the website says it's just for sql db's
[06:29] <Jakman85> din, thank you for correcting me, i am mistaking it for another tool
[06:29] <ray24> What is a compatible wallpaper for my ubuntu
[06:29] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  I really think ubuntu is headed in a direction with 11.04 that I dont want to follow. may just jump to debian and see how well it works for me
[06:29] <din> Tropolis: you will likely need to write something custom in php to do what you are talking about.
[06:30] <din> well, php, perl, cgi, etc... whatever language you choose.
[06:30] <wildbat> If i am in terminal inside a sshfs mounted directory. If the connection broken, the terminal will be hanged. is there a nice way out , instead of killing the terminal ?
[06:30] <din> Tropolis: also, allowing users to run commands on server is probably not a good idea. :)
[06:31] <Tropolis> Yeah, ideally I just want a button that runs a script in the background
[06:31] <Tropolis> which will only restart the given process
[06:31] <ray24> How does one find a matching wallpaper for ubuntu?
[06:32] <dimas_> Jackman85 i post a little piece of my dmsg
[06:32] <din> wildbat: ~.
[06:33] <wildbat> din, that's for ssh ~  i am in sshfs
[06:33] <chalcedony> after i rebooted last time my alerts started making sounds (ubuntu 10.04), i LOVED it! but i wanted to see if i could get more than one sound, for different things - drum sound (default) .. so i messed with System > Sound > Sound Effects - and I don't know what i changed but now i can barely hear it? i moved the Output Volume up, because music and things were too quiet, and i moved Choose an alert sound to Drip and back to Default .. and now i
[06:33] <chalcedony>  can't hear it? HELP?
[06:33] <din> wildbat: ah, sorry. hmmm
[06:34] <haxor> hello
[06:34] <din> wildbat:  cd .. ?? :)
[06:34] <wildbat> the terminal hanged :<  ~ can't type ;p
[06:35] <share> :p
[06:35] <din> how about ctrl \
[06:35] <wildbat> din, let me try
[06:35] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[06:36] <kiichiro> and need to start a game server  with the terminal can someone help me program that?
[06:36] <haxor> hello any on people here
[06:36] <haxor> ?
[06:37] <_Rix> !help
[06:37] <wildbat> din, nope~
[06:37] <_Rix> !about
[06:37] <dattebayo> hey guys recently im having problem with usb-creator, when i add  file.iso it shows me nothing so i cant create flash bootable what should i do to it work?
[06:37] <din> wildbat: if sshfs disconnects, it is like pulling the filesystem out from under a running process. it may respond at all unless you just kill the shell.
[06:37] <_Rix> !bot
[06:37] <din> may not*
[06:38] <wildbat> din, kk ~ just thought there may be a nicer way out ^^ ~ nvm then
[06:39] <din> wildbat: when i use sshfs i always use -o reconnect
[06:39] <wildbat> din, not always work ~
[06:39] <din> in case it does disconnect
[06:39] <din> yeah i understand, if your endpoint is unreachable.
[06:39] <mikubuntu> my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar.  i searched for this issue on google can't find anything.  anybody familiar with this?
[06:40] <wildbat> din, and if the connections dropped for too long ~
[06:40] <chalcedony> mikau, does her mouse move the pointer?
[06:40] <mikubuntu> its on a laptop, so itds not a usb keyboard
[06:40] <din> wildbat: lately i have been using autofs + sshfs. you should check it out.
[06:41] <din> wildbat: yes, such is the way of network filesystems. :)
[06:42] <wildbat> din ~ autofs ~ hmm ~ used to use it when i am using with Windows shares~ have never use it with sshfs~ hmmm
[06:45] <din> wildbat: it is quite handy. i have a netbook with limited storage, so i use it to mount my /home directory on my home "server".
[06:49] <brewster> does anyone here use the program tangerine?
[06:50] <brewster> they don't appear to have an irc channel
[06:50] <wildbat> din, don't your system hang if the connection broken?
[06:50] <brewster> and i was wondering how i could tell what port it used
[06:52] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[06:59] <delinquentme> export $CROSSBOW_HOME='/home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2'  << does this look like a valid operation for setting the path in ubuntu?
[06:59] <delinquentme> bc its definitely not setting the path :P
[06:59] <Gryllida> delinquentme: Without the $
[06:59] <Flannel> delinquentme: Is your usernam unf-ubu?
[06:59] <delinquentme> Flannel, it is
[07:00] <delinquentme> ah!
[07:00] <b0nghitter> i'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX on ubuntu server 11.04, but there is no PPA repo for 11.04... can i get around this somehow without any problems?
[07:00] <delinquentme> Gryllida, thanks!
[07:01] <jeeves_moss> Flannel, hey man!!  long time no chat!!
[07:02] <van7hu> anyone has experience with pulseaudio?
[07:02] <Gryllida> delinquentme: :)
[07:03] <Scribbled2x> Does the latest linux kernel support a blocksize of 1024 for ext2?  Is there a chance that this is something that it no longer supports
[07:04] <Flannel> howdy jeeves_moss
[07:05] <Jordan_U> delinquentme: You probably don't want to completely replace $PATH, rather you should add to it with 'PATH=$PATH:/path/to/new/directory/'. Is /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2 a regular file or a directory?
[07:05] <delinquentme> Jordan_U, yeah its a directory
[07:06] <delinquentme> so CROSSBOW_HOME=$CROSSBOW_HOME:/yadda/yar'
[07:07] <delinquentme> and this is different just in the case where someone might already have that ENVVAR set?
[07:08] <ubun> If i use LUBUNTU, what limitations does that come with vs ubuntu? can i still use terminal webcams? internet?
[07:08] <Gryllida> ubun: yes
[07:08] <Captainkrtek> yes
[07:08] <Gryllida> !lubuntu
[07:10] <estimablesir> #list
[07:11] <delinquentme> Jordan_U, that above question was for you :D  .. no rush though
[07:13] <Diddlebug> I think I have a kidney stone
[07:13] <Captainkrtek> Diddlebug, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:14] <thinktank809> Hi All... wanted a quick advise... we r trying to install 10.04LTS server 32bit  on PRIMERGY rx300 S6 , have 300GB * 4 HDD , The HDD are in RAID5 + 1HSP... when we install the OS the installation procedure is detecting only 300gb space...should i not get at least 500 to 600gb space
[07:14] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, ubuntu may not be recognizing the raid
[07:15] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, is it software?
[07:15] <Captainkrtek> what is the raid care?
[07:15] <Captainkrtek> card*
[07:15] <noisewaterphd> onboard, card?
[07:15] <GSF1200S> any troubleshooting ideas for figuring out why logout from the menu hangs?
[07:15] <thinktank809> onboad
[07:15] <noisewaterphd> well post your mobo details and maybe someone has experience
[07:15] <thinktank809> the raid was configured using the serverview CD
[07:16] <noisewaterphd> are you sure the mobo supports booting from the onboard raid
[07:16] <Captainkrtek> I have some server experience, not much with raid + ubuntu
[07:16] <Captainkrtek> I can try to help though
[07:16] <thinktank809> ever help is welcome
[07:16] <thinktank809> im about to try the 64bit version
[07:16] <noisewaterphd> problem with hardware raid is they are all different with different features and quirks
[07:17] <Scribbled2x> hahahah - success :) - the answer - simple: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/Crap_Pile_File bs=1024 ; mount Crap_Pile_File /Crap_Pile_File_Mountpoint -o loop
[07:17] <noisewaterphd> manufacturer docs are prob the best place to start
[07:17] <Captainkrtek> yeah
[07:17] <Captainkrtek> that's what i'd suggest
[07:17] <thinktank809> manufacturer has only certified as UBUNTU works on this server...but not any further help
[07:17] <WXZ> how do I open cmap files?
[07:18] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, find out what onboard raid chip it is, find their docs
[07:18] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, not the server manufacturer
[07:18] <thinktank809> hmm..thats a nice one
[07:19] <thinktank809> let me try that
[07:19] <Captainkrtek> certified doesnt mean all features will work if I recall correctly
[07:19] <noisewaterphd> they are just saying that out of all linux distros, they tried ubuntu and all hardware was supported
[07:20] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, one thing to keep in mind, is that a lot of on board raid chips don't support the raid setup as a boot disk
[07:21] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, in which case use 1 disk as the system disk, raid the rest of the drives raid5 or whatever and moun the raid as /home, or whatever suits you best
[07:21] <thinktank809> @noisewaterphd:  microsoft 2003/2008 got installed perfectly
[07:21] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, I don't like running my entire system from raid anyway, that is a lot of uneeded overhead slowing things down
[07:22] <thinktank809> is there any limitations on HDD access between 32bit and 64bit
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> just raid the critical data
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> just my opinion
[07:22] <WXZ> how do I open cmap files?
[07:23] <sender> mousemovement is stuttering, only on ubuntu 11.04 classic mode. Having xorg problems as well, can this be related, and how to solve? thanks
[07:23] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, if MS was able to use the exact same machine and boot from the raid then the bios and chip support it
[07:23] <noisewaterphd> so just start with chipmaker docs
[07:23] <noisewaterphd> bios docs might be of use as well
[07:24] <sender> about xorg problems: installed nvidia latest, and having serious compiz performance problems (8600GT 512mb), is this video card too old?
[07:24] <noisewaterphd> or at least give us the mobo and raid controller details so we can guess
[07:24] <wildbat> sender, i have 7950GT ~ not a problem at all .
[07:25] <Jakman85> sender, no
[07:25] <sender> wildbat, Jakman85: thanks, kind of comforting ;) hope to solve this soon
[07:25] <nkh> AnyOne can help me with Lucid? It Does not recognize my ethernet, instead of eth0 i have eth1 in ifconfig -a !
[07:25] <Jakman85> sender, i have 8800gts and it runs silky smooth
[07:26] <sender> wildbat, Jakman85: scale plugin is no problem, switching workspaces using desktop wall is wonky :-\
[07:26] <Jakman85> sender, i found someone yester who had issues, and the nvidia installer added another DRI section in the xorg rather than replacing the old one. He restored his past xorg and everything worked fine after that
[07:27] <babu> how to hear the sound from the remote desktop
[07:27] <sender> Jakman85: sorry, cant fint a DRI section in xorg.conf (kind of new to this)
[07:27] <Jakman85> glxinfo in a terminal
[07:27] <q0_0p> anyone here familiar with evolution?
[07:27] <sender> Jakman85: but i have double Section "InputDevice"
[07:27] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, the datasheet for that server you listed shows an optional raid card, not an on board controller
[07:28] <q0_0p> i removed evolution and figured all my settings were gone
[07:28] <Jakman85> sender, do a glxinfo in a terminal
[07:28] <q0_0p> after reinstalling evolution settings are still there and mail
[07:28] <q0_0p> was wondering if anyone knew the location
[07:28] <q0_0p> of this mail and settings
[07:28] <sender> Jakman85: ok, what am i looking for?
[07:28] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, with a raid card you have to use the card manufacturer software to interface it with the bios with as a bootable disk unless it came preconfigured that way
[07:28] <Jakman85> q0_0p, remove the hidden folder in your home directory?
[07:28] <q0_0p> Jakman85, i did that prior to removing
[07:29] <q0_0p> .evolution
[07:29] <Jakman85> sender, find your card listed
[07:29] <sender> Jakman85: "server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation"
[07:29] <orchata> HI guys, I got the Ubuntu Ultimate edition 2.7 dvd -  It has some packages in it that I want to install on my Ubuntu 11.04.   Is there any way to extract the debs from the DVD?  As far as I understood it hold all the files in squashfs'ed format
[07:29] <q0_0p> jakeriver, .config/evolution
[07:29] <sender> Jakman85: "server glx version string: 1.4"
[07:29] <noisewaterphd> q0_0p, sudo apt-get purge evolution
[07:29] <sender> Jakman85: "OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2"
[07:30] <noisewaterphd> q0_0p, or sudo apt-get remove --purge evolution if not uninstalled yet
[07:30] <noisewaterphd> q0_0p, for future reference
[07:30] <sender> Jakman85: is there  a way to benchmark? phoronix wont start :(
[07:31] <Jakman85> sender, glxgears, but be warned, it didnt work too well with my nvidia card
[07:31] <noisewaterphd> orchata, never even heard of ubuntu ultimate edition
[07:31] <sender> Jakman85: glxgears gives me:  OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
[07:31] <sender> Jakman85: glxgears gives me: 25990 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5197.938 FPS
[07:32] <orchata> noisewaterphd:  Well, it doesn't matter which version of ubuntu it is, the idea is that it is a livecd and I want to get some debs from it
[07:32] <noisewaterphd> orchata, but if they are on that disc then they are available in some repository somewhere, so you really don't need to get them off the DVD
[07:32] <Jakman85> sender, it appears your graphics driver is working
[07:32] <orchata> noisewaterphd: Well, I need to get them from DVD because I don't have good internet connetion to download them
[07:32] <Jakman85> sender, what exactly are you doing that is causing poor perforance?
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> orchata, give an example of one of the packages you need off of it
[07:33] <sender> Jakman85: hmmm, ok. Any idea where the stuttering might come from when switching workspaces? Also mouse stuttering.
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> orchata, oh
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> orchata, ok, so just put the disk in and use software center to install them from the disk
[07:33] <thinktank809> my bad....the RAID controller is not onboard...its RAID Ctrl SAS 6G 5/6 512 MB
[07:33] <sender> Jakman85: it's switching workspaces using Desktop Wall and having more then 4 windows open (not a lot right)
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, read back a bit, I already mentioned that
[07:34] <orchata> noisewaterphd: Well, I guess I am doing something wrong, because it does not work this way
[07:34] <noisewaterphd> orchata, ok, so just put in the disk, browse the disk, find the packages you want and copy them to your hard drive
[07:34] <Jakman85> sender, hmm... not experiencing it with my 8800gts, but it is more powerful than the 8600... I would still be very surprised if it is your hardware though
[07:35] <alex__> hi
[07:35] <orchata> noisewaterphd:  the "pool" directory is only 10 MB
[07:35] <Jakman85> sender, has this always done this or just recently?
[07:35] <WXZ> how do I open cmap files?
[07:36] <alex__> :( cant set up my wifi on my laptop
[07:36] <orchata> noisewaterphd: But when I run the live cd it has over 100 different apps
[07:36] <noisewaterphd> orchata, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-classic/add-applications/C/offline.html
[07:36] <cypha> ok, I seem to be having trouble with postgres, and I'm following http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/interactive/tutorial-createdb.html
[07:36] <sender> Jakman85: ok, i've upgraded from 7600 which gave me the same problems. Actually on different OS'es there is no problem. It started with upgrading to 11.04. Jockey is giving me 'driver activated but not in use'. After that  I installed NVIDIA 175... and cant seem to go back.
[07:36] <noisewaterphd> cypha, great start but we need the error message or the description of the problem
[07:37] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[07:37] <nkh> hi My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:37] <cypha> noisewaterphd, lol, that would prolly help
[07:37] <Jakman85> sender, I would download the nvidia driver from nvidia.com, follow the instructions for uninstalling the current driver and installing that one
[07:37] <alex__> wifi wifi
[07:37] <Jakman85> sender, a simple good search should point you in the right direction
[07:37] <alex__> cant set it up
[07:37] <sender> Jakman85: I think I did that already, I'm now on: 275.09.07
[07:38] <Jakman85> sender, I use to have the exact issue with an old ATI (not AMD, ATI ;-) ) card
[07:38] <noisewaterphd> cypha, also this is ubuntu help, not postgres. but post anyway and you might get lucky
[07:38] <alex__> i installed ubuntu just now
[07:38] <nkh> hi My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:38] <sender> Jakman85: aha ok ;) what was the solution? Do you think mouse stuttering can be related to desktop wall switching?
[07:38] <noisewaterphd> cypha,  #postgresql
[07:38] <sender> Jakman85: I've already bitemarks in my mouse now ;)
[07:38] <cypha> noisewaterphd, true, I think it's still an understanding linux thing right now
[07:39] <Jakman85> sender, it is probably using a GL extension that does not have GPU acceleration on it
[07:39] <sender> Jakman85: is that something I can change?
[07:39] <cypha> i am at the postgres@cypha-ubuntu: prompt after "sudo -u postgres -i''ing in
[07:40] <sender> Jakman85: non responsive mouse is kinda annoying.. :(
[07:40] <nkh> I even tried to add eth0 in /etc/network.interfaces , but i've get such error restarting network service : eth0 device not found
[07:40] <alex__> my wifi driver is instaled and activated but in network conections i dont see ant wifi conection
[07:40] <Jakman85> sender, if you open up system monitor, watch the cpu usage, and if it ramps up during the switching, then that is the issue
[07:40] <cypha> then "createdb cyphadb" gives me an error
[07:40] <cypha> "no command create found
[07:40] <cypha> "
[07:40] <alex__> -_- u all are bad i hate u
[07:41] <sender> Jakman85: spot on, up to 100% on both cores :(
[07:41] <sender> Jakman85: performance is degrading really fast with additional windows open..
[07:41] <sender> Jakman85: how to debug this? Never had a problem with ubuntu out of the box before
[07:41] <noisewaterphd> alex__, just for thought, my HP laptops have actual hardware buttons to enable and disable wireless, which makes the connection disappear when deactivated
[07:42] <nkh> My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:42] <sender> Jakman85: feel like a downgrade to lucid might be the best option now
[07:42] <noisewaterphd> alex__, really, then leave...
[07:42] <nkh> I think I'm Spaming if I Copy Paste My Question AnyMore :D
[07:42] <nkh> :-"
[07:42] <Jakman85> sender, it might be. They probably changed some of the GL extensions in the new version that is not supported by your vid card at the moment
[07:43] <sender> Jakman85: is there a way to downgrade without full reinstall that you know of?
[07:43] <rww> !downgrade
[07:43] <alex__> noise dont be .... nd help me :@ i press the key and nuthing happens
[07:44] <GSF1200S> i have an issue with the logout button not logging me out immediately- it takes at least 20 seconds before im logged out
[07:44] <GSF1200S> and it just started doing this
[07:44] <Jakman85> rww, do you know a way of finding out what GL extensions are being called at a given moment?
[07:44] <GSF1200S> is there anyway I can troubleshoot this?
[07:44] <alex__> all heys work but the wifi key doesnt
[07:44] <GSF1200S> ive already tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:45] <nkh> My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:45] <noisewaterphd> GSF1200S, do you have a new background process that is taking a while to shut down?
[07:45] <sender> Jakman85: thanks a tonne, cheers
[07:46] <Jakman85> sender, sorry to not have all the answers, but i hope you figure a solution out for yourself :-)
[07:46] <GSF1200S> noisewaterphd, thats a good point.. I figured that gdm would issue a sigkill to all processes running under X
[07:46] <alex__> if u dont help me it means u dont have balls
[07:46] <sender> Jakman85: np, sure will do ;) thanks
[07:46] <noisewaterphd> alex__, if you have a wifi key that is doing nothing, then search online for the drivers for your notebook to enable the key so that you can push the key to enable wireless and then have a wireless connection. and in the future, don't be an impatient baby if you expect any help
[07:47] <nkh> the more i google it , the less i get :| , how should I make Lucid recognize my ethernet !?
[07:47] <gogeta> alex__: sorry we cannt delver you new balls at this time
[07:47] <gogeta> nkh: plug it in
[07:47] <alex__> a driver for the key?
[07:47] <alex__> i ll try to find it
[07:47] <Jakman85> nkh, did you ask it to please work? ;-) do you have an IP address?
[07:48] <noisewaterphd> alex__, nobody is paid to be here, we come to help out in our free time, you can't expect someone to jump on your question in 20 seconds. And making the kind of comments you did will get you flat out ignored forever
[07:48] <nkh> gogeta: I know this , Man ! in ifconfig -a i've get an eth1 instead of eth0 !
[07:48] <nkh> Jakman85: I know this , Man ! in ifconfig -a i've get an eth1 instead of eth0 !
[07:48] <gogeta> nkh: if its wifi it might be named wlan0 or ath0
[07:49] <noisewaterphd> alex__, look for an ubuntu driver package for your entire laptop as well
[07:49] <alex__> noise k i apologize for my impatience
[07:49] <nkh> Jakman85: gogeta : I've pluged it in and nothing happens even in dmesg there is no message shows that it recognoze the ethernet
[07:49] <george__> hey guys should i install ubuntu with ext4 or btrfs ?
[07:49] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[07:49] <george__> which one is better?
[07:49] <Jakman85> nkh, can you ping google? or do you truly have nothing?
[07:49] <gogeta> nkh: some new gigafast we dont have a driver for or somethin?
[07:50] <alex__> noise i have my laptop's cd drivers does it help??
[07:50] <gogeta> nkh: its rare for them to lack one
[07:50] <noisewaterphd> alex__, for example, my HP laptops are fully supported right out of the box on ubuntu, my Macbook pro took some additional download to get some of the pecial keys and the multitouch mouse working
[07:50] <q0_0p> Jakman85, found it
[07:50] <wladston> I can't do a2enmod mod-wsgi after installing libapache2-mod-wsgi. ( it says ERROR: Module mod-wsgi does not exist!) Already searched everywhere .... help ?
[07:50] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no, the cd is for windows I'm sure
[07:50] <q0_0p> jakeriver, ~/.local/share/evolution
[07:50] <alex__> yup
[07:50] <noisewaterphd> alex__ what is your laptop make and model
[07:50] <Jakman85> q0_0p what and where was it?
[07:51] <nkh> Jakman85: gogeta : it was working till yesterday! i was triyng to work with an ipCamera , after that i faced this problem ...
[07:51] <q0_0p> jakeriver, ~/.local/share/evolution
[07:51] <gogeta> nkh: im leaning tords a hardware isue eth0 being disabled for a reasion or broken
[07:51] <alex__> its inspiron 1545
[07:51] <gogeta> nkh: i see
[07:52] <nkh> gogeta: So what is this eth1 in ifconfig ? :-?
[07:52] <noisewaterphd> nkh, I think just rewriting your network configs by hand might be your best bet from what I have been reading
[07:52] <gogeta> nkh: did you bridge them and its shbowing as eth1?
[07:52] <gogeta> nkh: thats probly eth0 renamed
[07:52] <george__> Is it true that BTFS is better than Ext4 ?
[07:52] <Jakman85> nkh, really... ipCamera would probably be an eth, since it is IP (or wlan if it is wireless)
[07:52] <rww> george__: no
[07:52] <babu> how to hear the sound from the remote desktop
[07:52] <nkh> noisewaterphd: How Should i do that !?
[07:52] <Jakman85> george__, nothing beats fat16
[07:53] <gogeta> rww: if he didnt have one before it is
[07:53] <babu> with the remote desktop viewer, i can only view the remote desktop
[07:53] <babu> pls someone help
[07:53] <nkh> gogeta: maybe , but it does not take an ip even connecting my modem or the camera :-??
[07:53] <george__> rww , jackman85 should i install ext4 or btrfs ?
[07:53] <rww> george__: ext4
[07:53] <Jakman85> george__, i would install ext4
[07:54] <gogeta> nkh: have you set it to auto if the program messed with your settigs you might need to restore them threw the network mamanger
[07:54] <george__> jakman85  , fat16 only supports files with 2gb space
[07:54] <nkh> Jakman85: sorry I did'nt get you , yes it's an eth , the matter is that nothing is working now , i even installed a debian and there is the same problem there !
[07:54] <noisewaterphd> hey alex__, did you install the proprietary broadcom drivers for your wireless card?
[07:55] <hellhammer> how do i view my installed drivers in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:55] <Jakman85> george__, i was kidding and being a bit of a troll ;-)
[07:55] <noisewaterphd> alex__, the 1545 is supposed to be fully supported
[07:55] <atul_> gsdfg
[07:55] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no additional downloads
[07:55] <hellhammer> how do i view my installed drivers in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:55] <nkh> gogeta: actually I didn't change anything and let it all to be done automatically , how Should I reset my network configurations?! may be it works ... :-??
[07:55] <atul_> can i install grub2 over grub
[07:56] <gogeta> nkh: i dont deal with unity so i cant say where they buryed the settings
[07:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[07:56] <nkh> gogeta: I'm on Lucid , there is no unity ;)
[07:56] <[CBH]Edward> Hello everyone!
[07:56] <alex__> nose it automaticaly installed it
[07:56] <gogeta> nkh: should be system adimin network manager
[07:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no
[07:56] <Jakman85> nkh, go to the power button on the top right, go to System Settings on the bottom
[07:57] <noisewaterphd> alex__, you have to install proprietary ones
[07:57] <[CBH]Edward> Installing java, DLJ license terms need to be accepted
[07:57] <gogeta> Jakman85: hes not unity hehe
[07:57] <[CBH]Edward> is there a way to automatically accept it?
[07:57] <nkh> Jakman85: and So !?
[07:57] <[CBH]Edward> apt-get install "-y" parameter isn't automatically accepting the java license agreement in shell
[07:57] <subminuentisch_> die
[07:57] <alex__> oh mm i installed updates
[07:57] <Jakman85> gogeta, lol, oh, i thought you said YOU werent in unity
[07:57] <noisewaterphd> alex__, they are included, but you have to follow the menu I just told you about and manually install the non open source proprietary drivers
[07:57] <nkh> Jakman85: network manager is now open , what shoul i do !?
[07:57] <foolishuser> hellhammer, in system /admin/hardware drivers
[07:57] <gogeta> Jakman85: im not never will be
[07:58] <noisewaterphd> alex__ and after installing the proprietary driver you need to reboot
[07:58] <foolishuser> Good morning all !
[07:58] <gogeta> Jakman85: i built my own off the min cd a lxde custom build
[07:58] <noisewaterphd> alex__, so in the menu at the top of your screen: System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[07:58] <Jakman85> nkh, i really dont know, ask gogeta?
[07:59] <foolishuser> BBL
[07:59] <alex__> noise ok wait
[07:59] <Jakman85> gogeta, sounds nice, i just drank the kool-aide ;-)
[07:59] <gogeta> Jakman85: i tryed to but it was like driking 190 moonshine. nearly killed me
[07:59] <nkh> Jakman85: ok Sorry to boring you :D , I'm really in stress of this because i should present the work in 2 days and i've lots of work to do , now should i come up with this :|
[08:00] <alex__> nose it the new ubuntu it doesnt have sistem on the top
[08:00] <WXZ> how do I open a cmap file?
[08:00] <noisewaterphd> alex__, oh, Unity
[08:00] <noisewaterphd> alex__, ya I don't know man, I hate unity, it's still there somewhere
[08:01] <Jakman85> gogeta, LOL, i came from windows 7 and compiz'd SuSE with beryl... talk about overdose of moonshine when you write in flames, the desktop is on a cube, and every window is like jello
[08:01] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: i hated it so i built without it
[08:01] <alex__> no it ubuntu 11.04
[08:02] <gogeta> Jakman85: i always turned that off but then unity and gnome 3 said nope your stuck with it and i said time to change my beer
[08:02] <caoxiaomin> 哪位高手知道如何把UBUNTU的任务栏给隐藏掉
[08:02] <fairuz> alex__ the menu is still there
[08:02] <noisewaterphd> alex__, ya 11.04 uses unity for the desktop rather than gnome
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> alex__, hit the ubuntu button and just type: Additional Drivers
[08:03] <fairuz> Try click on the Application and choose sub menu System
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> should find it
[08:03] <alex__> well i try to find it
[08:03] <nkh> gogeta: how can i remove this eth1 and setup my ethernet card from scratch, or just reset it's configs?!
[08:03] <fairuz> Application (on the launcher)
[08:03] <Jakman85> gogeta, i understand, i will say that "normal" (aka, not technical people) find unity to be a life saver... i got my girlfriend to use ubuntu on her laptop as her main OS and she knows 0 about computers
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> Guys, JAVA question
[08:03] <gogeta> nkh: look in your network amanger you should be able to delete any settings
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> How can I automatically accept the DLJ license for java
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> [CBH]Edward, in #ubuntu, seriously?
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> It's a ubuntu question
[08:03] <alex__> found it
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> On ubuntu noisewaterphd
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> java is java man
[08:04] <[CBH]Edward> Bash scripting for ubuntu
[08:04] <nkh> gogeta: from there i cannot remove this eth1 device !
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> bash is bash man
[08:04] <[CBH]Edward> Is it not a parameter for apt-get?
[08:04] <gogeta> nkh: it should say in  wired eth 1 and its settings
[08:04] <alex__> broadcom sta wireless driver
[08:04] <LigH> Greetings.
[08:04] <fairuz> [CBH]Edward: #bash
[08:04] <Jakman85> good night everyone
[08:04] <alex__> this driver is activated and currently in use
[08:05] <gogeta> nkh: and delete
[08:05] <safejav> [CBH]Edward: i dont know how to accept it automatically, but if u only need to accept that, hit the arrow keys
[08:05] <nkh> gogeta: the problem is not with connections , is with the device driver , there i have nothing named eth1 , is just a Autho Ethernet which is my Current connection Using USB of my Adsl modem !
[08:05] <LigH> How do I separate several alternative DNS servers in the IPv4 configuration? Comma / semicolon / space?
[08:05] <noisewaterphd> [CBH]Edward, what do you mean automatically accept? just accept it and move on
[08:06] <gogeta> nkh: so its working?
[08:06] <gogeta> nkh: your modem may be showing up as eth 1
[08:06] <safejav> noisewaterphd: i think he is doing several installations
[08:06] <gogeta> nkh: being its usb
[08:06] <bullgard4> LigH: "the IPv4 configuration" is an ambiguous term. Please refine your question.
[08:06] <GSF1200S> noisewaterphd: know anything about conky? conky is hanging my logout because I have it cat'ing the contents of a file. The file is in a RAM tmpfs..
[08:07] <alex__> mm i think i should delete it and find on google the right driver
[08:07] <noisewaterphd> safejav, I usually just install java once
[08:07] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[08:07] <noisewaterphd> GSF1200S, nope, sorry man
[08:07] <GSF1200S> noisewaterphd, k, thanks :)
[08:07] <nkh> gogeta: The USB0 is available in ifconfig and has ip , i'm connecting with that now, but the networkmanager says it is an Auto Ethernet , While it was Auto USB before :-??
[08:08] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no, just reboot
[08:08] <gogeta> nkh: humm
[08:08] <LigH> bullgard4: Ubuntu 11.04 Classic (Gnome); upper right bar: Network symbol; Configure connection (or whatever it is called in english, I have a german system); eth0; IPv4
[08:08] <alex__> noise but i did it
[08:08] <alex__> i think so
[08:08] <alex__> idk
[08:08] <alex__> well im gonna reboot
[08:08] <gogeta> nkh: so your onbord lan isnt working?
[08:08] <noisewaterphd> alex__, great, now reboot
[08:09] <nkh> gogeta: Yes , exactly
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: try sudo lspci
[08:09] <LigH> bullgard4: Static setup.
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: see if its in the list
[08:09] <nkh> gogeta: Yes it's in there , i tried
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: sudi ifup eth0
[08:09] <gogeta> sudo
[08:09] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, eth0 used to work for him, installed something, networking is screwed now
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: see if it turns on
[08:10] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, is the summary so far if i remember correctly
[08:10] <nkh> gogeta: ifup says : Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[08:10] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: yep but his usb nic is fine only the onbord died
[08:11] <gogeta> nkh: you might wanna check to see if the card just hasent died
[08:11] <gogeta> nkh: start off the live cd or something
[08:11] <nkh> gogeta: :(
[08:12] <alex__> i just needed to reboot -_-
[08:12] <nkh> gogeta: ok i'll try this , So what is that eth1 device? ifup eth1 says it's configured ! :-??
[08:12] <nkh> gogeta: sudo ifup eth1 : ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[08:12] <gogeta> nkh: i think eth1 is relly 0 and some odd config has renamed it
[08:13] <nkh> gogeta: how can i remove this eth1 devoce?!
[08:13] <jpds> gogeta: That would be /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:13] <nkh> gogeta: device*
[08:14] <LigH> bullgard4: http://frupic.frubar.net/20556 -- how to add a second DNS server here, how to separate the second address from the first?
[08:14] <nkh> gogeta: in /etc/network/interfaces i just hav this auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[08:14] <gogeta> nkh: he gave ya the answer
[08:14] <jpds> nkh: You could try deleting the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file, and rebooting.
[08:14] <princej88> exit
[08:14] <nkh> jpds: Owk Thanks! I'll try this now
[08:14] <krambiorix> hi guys, in ubuntu 10.04 LTS , i can't modify /etc/network/interfaces... (E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override) ) what can i do??
[08:14] <nkh> gogeta: cheers
[08:15] <gogeta> krambiorix: sudo
[08:15] <bullgard4> LigH: Vielleicht hilft Dir das weiter: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/interfaces
[08:15] <jpds> krambiorix: Open it as root?
[08:15] <nkh> gogeta: i'll try this and be back , Thanks
[08:15] <krambiorix> gogeta , i am root
[08:15] <gogeta> nkh:  hope heh
[08:15] <ikonia> krambiorix: then add ! as it says wq!
[08:15] <alex__> where is nose?
[08:16] <alex__> mm thx nose wherever u are :)
[08:16] <nkh> gogeta: :D heh i know I may never be back with this :D
[08:16] <nkh> ;)
[08:16] <krambiorix> ikonia, then it still has not been saved
[08:16] <gogeta> krambiorix: oh vi !save
[08:16] <gogeta> krambiorix: just as it said
[08:16] <jpds> nkh: The file gets autogenerated on reboot.
[08:16] <LigH> bullgard4: Ja - wenn da in der config ein Leerzeichen üblich ist, dann im Dialog wohl auch...
[08:16] <ikonia> krambiorix: yes it has
[08:16] <charlie> hi
[08:16] <nkh> jpds: ok Thanks :)
[08:17] <Guest93595> hi
[08:17] <gogeta> jpds: whatever he played with i think it tryed to bind and borked his configs
[08:17] <jpds> gogeta: Nice.
[08:17] <gogeta> jpds: bridge rather
[08:17] <LigH> Thanks. Bye. \o
[08:18] <gogeta> jpds: its like if you use aircrack it will givbe your interfaces odd anmes
[08:18] <gogeta> names
[08:19] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no problem
[08:19] <LigH> bullgard4: http://ww1.4hf.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ubuntu-netzwerk05-244x300.png - da gehts auch mit Komma ... vielleicht ist das relativ flexibel.
[08:19] <eroomde> Hello. I am about to give up and install windows unless anyone can provide me with any hope of non-useless flash implimentation for 64-bit. It's made the internet basically unusable for me
[08:20] <P-G-M> anyone want to talk about wave partical duality?
[08:20] <rww> !ot | P-G-M
[08:20] <mrdeb> eroomde: there is a working flash file
[08:20] <P-G-M> this is ubuntu
[08:20] <ikonia> eroomde: the package flashplugin-nonfree should provide a 32bit flashplayer with a 64bit wrapper that is normally quite effective.
[08:20] <gogeta> eroomde: flash 64 is still beta i beleve
[08:20] <noisewaterphd> eroomde, flash 10.3 64bit for linux works fine
[08:20] <mrdeb> eroomde: hold on, i will find you the 64 bit version
[08:20] <ikonia> P-G-M: ou wave partcial discussion has nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:21] <noisewaterphd> eroomde, what is your issue exactly
[08:21] <P-G-M> it does if you have it installed
[08:21] <ikonia> P-G-M: what is your ubuntu question then ?
[08:21] <mrdeb> noise i am gonig to link it for him
[08:21] <mrdeb> going
[08:22] <noisewaterphd> mrdeb, cool
[08:22] <alex__> mm now that i have ubuntu what should i install??
[08:22] <P-G-M> why would i have questions
[08:22] <Addy> Hey guys. I tried booting up an 11.04 live CD, but when it reaches the desktop it hangs
[08:22] <fairuz> alex__: codecs?
[08:22] <ikonia> P-G-M: because this is an ubuntu support channel,
[08:22] <fairuz> :D
[08:22] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: alex__apps
[08:22] <gogeta> lots of apps
[08:22] <P-G-M> thats becuase its rubbigsh Addy
[08:22] <P-G-M> get a mac
[08:22] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, wha?
[08:23] <fairuz> P-G-M: -1
[08:23] <alex__> i think i will get apps with time when i need them
[08:23] <Wisien> hi
[08:23] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, oh, ya alex__, just whatever you need man
[08:23] <alex__> i have a question :)
[08:23] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: the ops be vengfull today
[08:23] <Wisien> What program is for running windows programs on ubuntu?
[08:23] <fairuz> alex__: Maybe at first you need some codecs, flash, java
[08:24] <rww> !wine | Wisien
[08:24] <alex__> does ams make videocalls with hotmail contacts?
[08:24] <fairuz> something to get the daily tasks done
[08:24] <Wisien> !wine
[08:24] <bullgard4> Addy: It probably writes someething on the screen. Please report what you see on the screen.
[08:24] <Addy> so anyways, does anyone know why my liveCD is hanging before it boots up properly?
[08:24] <alex__> tell me hot to get them fairuz
[08:24] <Addy> bullgard4: I see the cursor, I can move it for a few seconds. There's a purplish desktop background
[08:24] <alex__> amsn
[08:24] <Addy> otherwise blank
[08:25] <thinktank809> thank you all... found out that if i use the 64bit version the full capacity of RAID is available
[08:25] <bullgard4> Addy: What is then the effect of pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[08:25] <Addy> didn't try that
[08:25] <Addy> what would that do?
[08:25] <noisewaterphd> alex__, just looking through the ubuntu software center you should find some cool stuff
[08:25] <charlie_> hi
[08:26] <bullgard4> Addy: This will normally open a virtutual terminal. There you can input command-line commands.
[08:26] <bullgard4> Addy: This will normally open a virtual terminal. There you can input command-line commands.
[08:26] <mustafa> hello for all
[08:26] <charlie_> i am in the Natty Narwhal support group. so if you have Natty Narwhal and questions tell me.
[08:27] <mustafa> i want ask about what is new in ubuntu 11.04
[08:27] <Addy> well, I'm fairly sure it was frozen, not accepting input
[08:27] <bullgard4> !ask | mustafa
[08:27] <Addy> I'd have to restart and boot it up again to try that out
[08:27] <fairuz> Addy: Maybe your CD is corrupted?
[08:27] <bullgard4> Addy: You better make that sure
[08:27] <mustafa> what is new in 11.04
[08:27] <Addy> fairuz: perhaps, should I check the checksum?
[08:28] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, Unity
[08:28] <alex__> wtf what ctrl alt f1??
[08:28] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: lol are frends with the funky network didnt come back bet it did fix such a thankless job
[08:28] <alex__> it turned off my laptop 0.O
[08:28] <noisewaterphd> ya
[08:28] <fairuz> Addy: Burn with the slowest speed.
[08:28] <gogeta> alex__: lol that drops you to a bash term ctrl alt f7 brings the ui back
[08:28] <bullgard4> !language | alex__
[08:28] <ZykoticK9> alex__, virtual terminal - use alt+f7 to get back to GUI
[08:28] <mustafa> its good inter face
[08:28] <alex__> sorry :(
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, I hate it
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, I prefer gnome
[08:29] <Addy> fairuz: I did. It took like half an hour to burn. The cd is a very old CD-RW though so maybe that's why
[08:29] <gogeta> alex__: or accersys termnel
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> !classic | noisewaterphd
[08:29] <alex__> oh alt f7 i got it
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, but to each his own, try it out
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, ya man, done deal long ago
[08:29] <alex__> it asked me for a password nd i used mine and it didnt work
[08:30] <mustafa> noisewaterphd i try it but its not use full
[08:30] <mustafa> its to bad
[08:30] <gogeta> alex__: heh will you dont need to spend any time there unless something is wrong
[08:30] <mustafa> and hard to use it
[08:30] <alex__> i wont do it again
[08:30] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, well as ZykoticK9 just botted, it's simple to just use gnome2
[08:31] <gogeta> alex__: lol alt f7 brings you back to the gui
[08:31] <lindi-> is there some common way to tile windows in gnome? I googled around and found all sorts of unofficial solutions that are not in ubuntu. Most promising seems to be http://www.giuspen.com/x-tile/
[08:31] <dinkyd00> dumb question: can I make ubuntu NOT require sudo?
[08:31] <alex__> i like to learn ubuntu :D
 what is new think in 11.4 or just new interface
[08:31] <gogeta> alex__: thats just linux in genrel
[08:31] <Totem-Schalter> try sudo -i
[08:31] <Totem-Schalter> i think
[08:31] <alex__> how do i get codects nd jaba nd stuff?
[08:31] <bullgard4> dinkyd00: You should not!
[08:31] <alex__> java
[08:31] <dinkyd00> eh?!?
[08:31] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, all kinds of stuff man, hit the website and check it out
[08:32] <dinkyd00> sudo make me a sandwich
[08:32] <fairuz> alex__: Open synaptics
[08:32] <fairuz> you know that right>
[08:32] <fairuz> ?
[08:32] <gogeta> alex__: the quick way apt-get install jre
[08:32] <mustafa> noisewaterphd thanks for help
[08:32] <alex__> uhmm yeah wait
[08:32] <dinkyd00> my name is alex.  you guys are wierding me out
[08:32] <noisewaterphd> alex__, I prefer apt-get from the cli, but ubuntu software center is a nice gui
[08:32] <gogeta> alex__: or search java threw softwhere store
[08:32] <fairuz> you can install all the things you want from there
[08:32] <ZykoticK9> !java | alex__
[08:33] <alex__> ok ill search java first
[08:33] <alex__> uh?
[08:33] <alex__> is easier if i click that link?
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> alex__, be sure to add the partner repo if you want Sun-java6-*
[08:33] <noisewaterphd> alex__, I recommend you install java6-sun, not the open jdk. sun version is in the partner repo I believe
[08:33] <dinkyd00> hmph no really tho .. I don't mind using sudo, I know it keeps things in user space, but what would I have to do to make ubuntu NOT require sudo?
[08:33] <gogeta> alex__: no lol
[08:34] <noisewaterphd> dinkyd00, sudo bash
[08:34] <noisewaterphd> makes the rest of the session root
[08:34] <MikeMurdock> whats up fools
[08:34] <dinkyd00> noise: haha quick fix, eh?  thanx!!
[08:34] <alex__> -_- ill write java in the software finder thing
[08:34] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, that's not really correct!  use "sudo -i" to get a root terminal.  dinkyd00
[08:35] <gogeta> alex__: i always use sysanpitc witch is also installed to enable all the repos and just search java from there its a little more powerfull then softwhere store
[08:35] <dinkyd00> zy: cool
[08:35] <alex__> gogeta ok wait
[08:36] <gogeta> alex__: or click the link lol
[08:36] <dinkyd00> cool cool
[08:36] <dinkyd00> thanks everyone
[08:36] <jpds> MikeMurdock: Hi.
[08:36] <dinkyd00> gnite (it's 230 in mid-america)
[08:36] <alex__> no no no i want sysanpitc
[08:36] <alex__> but i dont know how to do it
[08:36] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, sudo bash works just as well
[08:37] <gogeta> alex__: ok that think was over complex
[08:37] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Err.
[08:37] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Use: sudo -i
[08:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, actually, it probably doesn't
[08:37] <Starminn> I am having problems with the notifications on Ubuntu 10.10. Instead of the bubbles, I get a pop-up window now. http://imagebin.org/161346 Any assistance is of course appreciated.
[08:37] <alex__> teach me!!!
[08:37] <fairuz> alex__: Open synaptics, then just search the thing that you want on the search field
[08:37] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, I'd love to hear why
[08:37] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[08:37] <athnam> .
[08:37] <fairuz> alex__: Do you managed to find synaptics?
[08:37] <gogeta> alex__: it didnt have any sort of guide heh just info abought changes
[08:37] <Starminn> They're allegedly getting rid of Synaptic anyway in the next few versions
[08:37] <jpds> bullgard4: Yes.
[08:38] <alex__> i dont know where is synaptics
[08:38] <gogeta> Starminn: yea but it will still be in the repo so simple apt-get its back
[08:38] <dr_willis> Starminn,  just not being installed by default. from what i hear. that was also planned in the last release.
[08:38] <fairuz> System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[08:38] <bullgard4> jpds: What do you refer to?
[08:38] <Starminn> Ah.
[08:39] <jpds> bullgard4: Under "Optionen", go to "Taste(n) zum Wechseln der Belegung".
[08:39] <alex__> fairuz i have the new ubuntu
[08:39] <alex__> clear thing
[08:39] <noisewaterphd> so nobody knows why sudo -i is so much better than sudo bash
[08:39] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Because it sets the user environment properly.
[08:39] <fairuz> Click on top left corner
[08:39] <fairuz> then type synaptic
[08:39] <dr_willis> one of these days theya re going to have to just bite the bullet and go to a dvd.iso by default and get over the 700mb cd size.
[08:39] <sako> hey guys, i have a minor annoyance, i can't figure out why the plymouth splash screen wont run?
[08:39] <dr_willis> sako,  whats your video chipset?
[08:40] <noisewaterphd> the guy didn't want to be root
[08:40] <sako> nvidia
[08:40] <noisewaterphd> he wanted to not type sudo
[08:40] <thedude1> my external dvd drive won't mount or anything, although it does show up in dmesg as "scsi 34:0:0:0: CD-ROM            QSI      DVD/CDRW SBW-081 NE02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0". it is powered externally and there is a disc in the drive.
[08:40] <sako> GeForce GT420
[08:40] <gogeta> alex__: from there slect repos and enable em all
[08:40] <alex__> ok
[08:40] <dr_willis> sako,  theres known issues with plmouth and the nvidia drivers.. personally i disable plymouth.
[08:40] <jpds> bullgard4: "Optionen" under "Tastatureinschtellungen" → "Belegungen", that is.
[08:40] <sako> dr_willis: i see
[08:40] <gogeta> alex__: should be 4 checkboxes in total
[08:40] <noisewaterphd> so lets ponder why we care if the user environment was "set properly"
[08:40] <dr_willis> sako,  theres literally dozens of pages with 'fix nvidia and plymouth' guides.. some of them can break the system.
[08:41] <sako> dr_willis: ah not worth it ;)
[08:41] <sako> thanks
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> sako, if you REALLY want, there is a script linked on webupd8 that fixes nvidia/ati plymouth
[08:41] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Well, there's no other way, "not to type sudo" without being rootl.
[08:41] <alex__> gogeta in package there are like a lot o.O
[08:41] <sako> ZykoticK9: wheres that at?
[08:41] <gogeta> alex__: the repo menu
[08:42] <noisewaterphd> we are talking 'environment' here
[08:42] <ZykoticK9> sako, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html
[08:42] <gogeta> alex__: you should see manage repos from that
[08:42] <noisewaterphd> he didn't care about being root
[08:42] <gogeta> alex__: from there you can enable partner
[08:42] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  and some times it even works.     :)
[08:42] <fryman> Hi guys; I'm trying to get the internal mic working on the original macbook air in natty. Following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir1-1/Hardy doesn't seem to work. So, I suppose my question is which kernel module should I be using?
[08:42] <thedude1> my external dvd drive won't mount or anything, although it does show up in dmesg as "scsi 34:0:0:0: CD-ROM            QSI      DVD/CDRW SBW-081 NE02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0". it is powered externally and there is a disc in the drive.
[08:42] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: I'm not sure what you're going on about, but 'sudo bash' wouldn't make him not root either.
[08:42] <noisewaterphd> he wanted to not type sudo for a session, sudo bash works just fine for purposes asked
[08:42] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, ya - I too have had mixed results
[08:43] <noisewaterphd> Flannel, no kidding, not the point
[08:43] <alex__> the only menus are 2
[08:43] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  ive had 4 out of 4 fail. :)
[08:43] <athnam> the channel seems to have stopped working.
[08:43] <alex__> all and package
[08:43] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, that's not good - I certainly have had it work
[08:43] <gogeta> alex__: hua
[08:43] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  one reason im always comming down on plymouth.  eyecandy that makes trouble shooting harder.
[08:43] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: You don't seem to have a clear understanding of what you're talking about.  So lets just drop it, and in the future, please suggest sudo -i instead of sudo bash.  Thanks.
[08:44] <noisewaterphd> the point is people jump up and down with Err!, when in reality it would have worked out for him just fine. He did not say 'how do I become root from the cli'
[08:44] <droidman101> dr_willis: yes, i agree that theyll have to use dvds...but i use a usb stick anyways so i could care less
[08:44] <gogeta> alex__: doesent unity hide the menus
[08:44] <noisewaterphd> Flannel, no I have a very clear understanding of what I am talking about
[08:44] <dr_willis> droidman101,  yea. or they may have to even get rid of 'wubi' :)
[08:44] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, "get rid of wubi" +1
[08:44] <gogeta> alex__: so it would be like on the top right menu
[08:45] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: If you'd like to continue this, I invite you to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Lets keep this channel clear of the noise.
[08:45] <fairuz> alex__: In synaptic, you have the Quick Filter at the top.
[08:45] <alex__> mm cant i take screen shots here?
[08:45] <gogeta> alex__: top left rather
[08:46] <fairuz> For example, if you want to install amsn, just type amsn in the field
[08:46] <thedude1> my external dvd drive won't mount or anything, although it does show up in dmesg as "scsi 34:0:0:0: CD-ROM            QSI      DVD/CDRW SBW-081 NE02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0". it is powered externally and there is a disc in the drive.
[08:46] <alex__> top right
[08:46] <noisewaterphd> Flannel, tell Ubuntu to recommend sudo -i instead of sudo bash all over in the docs, and I'll do the same.
[08:46] <alex__> the quick filter
[08:46] <jpds> noisewaterphd: It does.
[08:46] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[08:46] <gogeta> alex__: i dunnoi how unity has your ,layout cant help there
[08:46] <dr_willis> ive filed many a bug/report correcting  incorrect 'sudo to root' ussage.
[08:46] <noisewaterphd> jpds, and it doesn't
[08:46] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: Lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, tanks.
[08:47] <gogeta> alex__: i guess you can screen and image shack it or somnethin
[08:47] <droidman101> dr_willis: yah, i thought wubi was a bad idea, i mean, ubuntu is a very easy-to-use OS but if you cant figure out how to install it properly you probably wont have tons of patience
[08:48] <fairuz> gogeta: What's alex__ searching?
[08:48] <gogeta> fairuz: to enable all the repos threw synaptic
[08:48] <droidman101> which leads to infinitely more "my internet isnt working" "what is your wifi card" "its called bcm4318 or something" "did you install ndiswrapper" "whats ndiswrapper?"
[08:49] <gogeta> fairuz: i avoide unity like a very bad plage so i cant give him the exact locations of stuff
[08:49] <alex__> 38343007f31b3edfc808f3138776005d
[08:49] <VectorX> from the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list , where can i find the files that would have the individual package info ?
[08:50] <alex__> thats the code of the pic online thing
[08:50] <fairuz> gogeta: Did you mean to enable Canonical Partners repo?
[08:50] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[08:50] <gogeta> fairuz: yea
[08:50] <fairuz> alex__: Try this
[08:50] <fairuz> Top menu, Settings -> Repositories
[08:50] <fairuz> Then go Other software
[08:50] <gogeta> < kills self
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> fairuz, it's been moved to Ubuntu Software Center
[08:51] <fairuz> gogeta: That one?
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> !partner
[08:51] <gogeta> they made its own thing now did they
[08:51] <fairuz> ZykoticK9: Oh ok
[08:51] <alex__> http://imagebin.org/161347
[08:51] <alex__> thats the pic
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> fairuz, oh sorry, those where synaptic direction (it MAY still be there)
[08:51] <gogeta> alex__: its in setting repos i think
[08:52] <fairuz> alex__: try setting -> repo -> other software
[08:52] <alex__> ok
[08:52] <gogeta> fairuz: i think they made it part of the main he just checks the box
[08:53] <balooo> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu over the network
[08:53] <alex__> where is setthings?
[08:53] <balooo> but I do not have control of the dhcp server
[08:53] <alex__> o.O
[08:53] <balooo> is this still possible?
[08:53] <gogeta> alex__: lol
[08:53] <benplaut> how much of a gigantic hassle is it going to be to get gtk-1.2 on maverick?
[08:53] <Luxe> I'm so happy ^.^
[08:54] <gogeta> balooo: if you can set a static ip yes
[08:54] <alex__> :P i went to settings but i couldnt find it
[08:54] <mynotes> how to restore panel on ubuntu to their default setting?
[08:54] <fairuz> gogeta: If you want to help him/her with ease, I suggest you ask him/her to relog in Ubuntu classic
[08:54] <fairuz> :D
[08:54] <ZykoticK9> !panels | mynotes
[08:54] <balooo> gogeta: so set a static IP on the machine serving ubuntu?  or the machine i'm installing it on?
[08:54] <dr_willis> mynotes,  unity --replace, or unity --reset  or unity --reset-icons
[08:55] <dr_willis> mynotes,  if using unity. Then theres a command to reset compiz to defaults.
[08:55] <gogeta> balooo: i dont knoe your netowork setup but if its dhcp it should just work
[08:55] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, nice!  I guess !panels should be updated
[08:55] <alex__> in synaptic settings there is no repo
[08:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, the confusion is a change between < 10.10 and 11
[08:56] <gogeta> alex__: lol lemmie turn my linux box on
[08:56] <ZykoticK9> alex__, use USC or the cli command !partner gave above
[08:56] <aspirin> hi, why i cant make work my vpn in ubuntu and in windows i havent problems?
[08:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, you should be able to enable the partner repos and everything from within ubuntu software center regardless of what tab it is now under
[08:57] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  lots of things need updated.. but the LTS is still supported for some time.. so its a bit of a hassle for doc writers :)
[08:57] <alex__> wait
[08:57] <alex__> i can change to the old ubuntu thing
[08:57] <alex__> i saw it in the page
[08:57] <gogeta> alex__: yes ubuntu classic
[08:57] <alex__> yes that
[08:57] <ZykoticK9> !classic
[08:57] <alex__> should i do it?
[08:57] <bullgard4> jpds: I pressed System > Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Preferences > Layouts > Russioan > Options (Keyboard Layout Options) > Key(s) tochange layout > Both Alt keys together asserted > Close > Close. I rebooted. Why does the keyboad shortcut Alt+AltGr have no effect?
[08:58] <dr_willis> alex__,  if you want a more classic-like-the-old-gnome desktop,. yes
[08:58] <gogeta> alex__: you shure thers no repo in settings
[08:58] <dr_willis> but even that is going away in the next release i hear.
[08:58] <gogeta> alex in the sysanpic menu
[08:58] <alex__> i swear ill send u a pic
[08:58] <gogeta> i looked in mine its there
[08:58] <alex__> yes
[08:58] <aspirin> why is so difficult to make work a vpn in ubuntu and in windows is so easy?
[08:59] <gogeta> alex__: well you can do the partner diections
[08:59] <alex__> nooo i found it
[08:59] <ZykoticK9> aspirin, windows is better/easier - is that the answer you are looking for?
[08:59] <gogeta> alex__: lol
[08:59] <alex__> repositories
[09:00] <alex__> :( sorry
[09:00] <jpds> bullgard4: One second.
[09:00] <Starminn> I am having problems with the notifications on Ubuntu 10.10. Instead of the bubbles, I get a pop-up window now. http://imagebin.org/161346 Any assistance is of course appreciated.
[09:00] <gogeta> alex__: the working is still diffrent but just make shure there all checked
[09:00] <alex__> just source code is not cheked :)
[09:01] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, what is "notify-sharp"?
[09:01] <aspirin> zykotick9, sorry but i have an ubuntu so full like in my windows  but i want to have a vpn client too
[09:01] <gogeta> alex__: nice you relise if you check install 3rd party at install they are aruldy insateed
[09:01] <gogeta> installed
[09:01] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, http://www.ndesk.org/NotifySharp - barf, good luck.
[09:01] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: It's the window that pops up now whenever I get a new message (like in IRC now) or change tracks on my media player
[09:01] <ill0gic> hello
[09:02] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Bleh. Could I just uninstall it?
[09:02] <dr_willis> Starminn,  you mean the notify-osd thing  top right corner. black, if you get more then 1 message they sort of stack up...
[09:02] <alex__> mm ye
[09:02] <Starminn> dr_willis: That's what used to happen. Now that screenshot appears. Nothing at the top-right now
[09:02] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, ? --- sorry I'm a very anti-Mono person, thus the "barf"
[09:02] <gogeta> alex__: lol if you go to youtube or soemthing and videos play you probly aruldy setup
[09:02] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: I agree.
[09:03] <dr_willis> Starminn,  i havwe to wonder what 'notify-sharp' is in that title of that screenshot.
[09:03] <ill0gic> i get this message when i try to reproduce youtube on totem unde xubuntu 10.04 : gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error . Can anyone tell me what's the problem ?
[09:03] <Starminn> It's apparently the notification daemon
[09:03] <dr_willis> Starminn,  could be somthing you installed replaced the notify-osd system
[09:03] <alex__> gogeta u mean to download the codecs?
[09:03] <jpds> bullgard4: So I have "Taste(n) zum Wechseln der Belegnung" set to "Linke Windows-Taste" and "Verhalten der Feststelltaste" set to "Feststelltaste als zuzaetzliche Super-Taste verwenden". And pressing the "Windows" key sets the layout between UK/RU layouts.
[09:03] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, it's a 3rd party mono-app that i linked too above
[09:03] <alex__> or i got them already? o.O
[09:03] <Starminn> dr_willis: I still have notify-osd
[09:03] <dr_willis> I dont recall the notify osd thing ever having dialog buttons like that. :) but im in KDE at the moment.
[09:03] <gogeta> alex__: if you checked the box at install you should if not it will simply ask
[09:03] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  mono... argh.. :) heh..
[09:04] <Starminn> I'm going to try just uninstalling it
[09:04] <alex__> ye then i got the codecs already
[09:04] <gogeta> alex__: just make shure you slect the right flash adobe
[09:04] <gogeta> :)
[09:06] <Starminn> dr_willis ZykoticK9: It's coming up as libnotify0.4-cil for the package name. Should that be alright to uninstall..?
[09:06] <bullgard4> jpds: Hm. So I conclude that I will need to tamper a little bit with these key combinations yet. I cannot use a Windows key because my Thinkpad computer doen't have one. -- Thank you.
[09:06] <alex__> thx :D
[09:06] <alex__> ima go to sleep
[09:06] <dr_willis> Starminn,  You can always reinstall it later i guess.
[09:06] <gogeta> alex__: ubuntu is pretty good abought codecs even if you =dont have them it will say hey i need to install these codecs for this video to play and ask to do it
[09:06] <jpds> bullgard4: That's how I made it work.
[09:07] <bullgard4> jpds: Yes.
[09:07] <alex__> gogeta it kind of ask cuz i pluged in my iphone nd i played music videos nd stuff
[09:08] <gogeta> alex__: hehe
[09:08] <ill0gic> hello channel ... anyone to help with totem problem in xubuntu ?
[09:08] <alex__> illogic  whats wrong
[09:08] <noisewaterphd> alex__, also there was a bug in a recent firefox (64 bit) where flash was pretty sketchy, I have no idea if it was fixed yet, but just FYI it works fine in Chrome idea if i
[09:09] <ZykoticK9> !tab > alex__
[09:09] <ill0gic> alex__, i get this error message when i try to playback from youtbe : GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[09:09] <alex__> noise i use 64 bit nd firifos is working fine
[09:10] <noisewaterphd> alex__, good to know, must have been fixed
[09:10] <Starminn> dr_willis: Alright, what the heck. It's still there after being removed. Should I purge and log out or just log out/in?
[09:10] <alex__> noise nd gogeta lets help illogic :)
[09:10] <alex__> yes nose i can play videos in youtube
[09:10] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, ok
[09:10] <dr_willis> Starminn,  may as well try.
[09:10] <Starminn> noisewaterphd: Chrome ships with its own Flash version. It ignores the system.
[09:10] <noisewaterphd> what browser
[09:10] <Starminn> dr_willis: Fair enough
[09:10] <ill0gic> firefox
[09:10] <ill0gic> updated
[09:11] <ill0gic> 5
[09:11] <noisewaterphd> Starminn, ya
[09:11] <alex__> ima go to sleep bye all nd thx :)
[09:11] <DICTATORS> hi i need a vpn client very easy for install in ubuntu and i wont open ports in my router for use a vpn in ubuntu
[09:11] <nkh> jpds: Hi , I did that , eth1 corrected to eth0 but still there were no connections, i'm with a live disk now, the problem is continuing , eth0 is avail but does not recognize connection when i plug it in , and the USB of my modem is recognized by netw*manager as BroadCom USB network Interface
[09:11] <noisewaterphd> Starminn, which currently works great
[09:11] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, 64bit?
[09:11] <ill0gic> 32
[09:12] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, do you have all the gstreamer stuff installed
[09:13] <Starminn> dr_willis: Could you highlight my name in a message real quick?
[09:13] <ill0gic> i don't really know ... when i tried to playback from youtube he asked to install some gstreamer stuff ... i installed just that . There is more sutff to install ?
[09:13] <dr_willis> Starminn,  moo!
[09:13] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, you probably just need to install the restricted drivers package, have you done that
[09:13] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, FYI ill0gic is trying to use Totem not a browser to play YouTube
[09:13] <dr_willis> brb
[09:13] <Starminn> dr_willis: Oh, I forgot, no bubbles appear when it's the active window anyway. My fault. Alright once more!! :)
[09:14] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, thanks, ya I caught up just now
[09:14] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, no .. should i look for it in the ubuntu software center ?
[09:14] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, ya, I think it is even called restricted drivers
[09:14] <ill0gic> ZykoticK9, is right ... i am trying to playback from totem
[09:14] <DICTATORS> hi i need a vpn client very easy for install in ubuntu and i wont open ports in my router for use a vpn in ubuntu
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, codecs not drivers
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> install that
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> probably the issue
[09:15] <ill0gic> ok
[09:15] <ill0gic> just a minute
[09:15] <Kane`> quick question: /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist. how do i add kernel commands?
[09:16] <noisewaterphd> Kane`, Grub2 doesnt use menu.lst anymore
[09:16] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, /etc/default/grub
[09:16] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, after any changes to that file run "sudo update-grub2"
[09:17] <Kane`> ZykoticK9, i was looking at /etc/default/grub. do i use GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[09:17] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, DEFAULT
[09:17] <Kane`> ZykoticK9, that is currently set to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet". is this a comma separated list?
[09:18]  * Kane` needs to add "pci=msi"
[09:18] <DICTATORS>  hi i need a vpn client very easy for install in ubuntu and i wont open ports in my router for use a vpn in ubuntu
[09:18] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, i believe it's just a space to separate (but I'm not 100% as in only have one entry as well, but not quiet)
[09:19] <LAvalanche> Kane: it is just a space
[09:19] <Kane`> ZykoticK9, will update-grub2 alert me of errors? or can i expect a broken system if i enter this in wrong? :P
[09:19] <Kane`> two votes for space
[09:19] <Kane`> i'll try that
[09:19] <dr_willis> 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset foo=bar'
[09:19] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, i'm not sure if update-grub2 can detect error?
[09:19] <Kane`> i'll try it out and see what happens
[09:19] <Kane`> thanks for the help ;)
[09:19] <dr-lee_> hi
[09:20] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, foo=bar?
[09:20] <dr_willis> You are passing options that grub then passes to the kernel.  grub2 has no idea what those options do.
[09:20] <dr_willis> so cant give you any errors if they are incorrect
[09:20] <dr_willis> unless you are doing some major typo in the config files. :)
[09:20] <Kane`> dr_willis, i was thinking 'errors' in terms of syntax errors
[09:21] <Kane`> computer booted back up
[09:21] <Kane`> i guess i'm in the clear
[09:21] <dr_willis> in /etc/default/grub --> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash"
[09:21] <dr_willis> for example
[09:21] <dr-lee_> i am having problems with remastersys, the selfmade ubuntu live iso doesnt show a graphical log in, in stucks in a console terminal and says something with nauveau driver and pll error
[09:22] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  you using a nvidia chipset based system?
[09:22] <dr-lee_> in general, what do you suggest concerning system stability: the opensource nauveau driver or the nvidia one
[09:22] <dr-lee_> no i am using olde intel p35 chipset
[09:22] <ZykoticK9> dr-lee_, it's nouveau BTW
[09:22] <dr-lee_> k
[09:22] <nkh> jpds: Coul you please take a look at this?! http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/yis9m4vql3lr73wq424u.png
[09:22] <dr_willis> the Nouveau driver is for Nvidia chipsets.. not intel.. i can never get nouveau to work for my nvidia systems
[09:23] <dr_willis> I have remastered my own ubuntu cds to include the nvidia driver inteh past.
[09:23] <george__> why my livecd starts with unity, but the installed version don't ?
[09:23] <nkh> jpds: this is what I have now in the live Ubuntu, it still Cant connect to eth0
[09:23] <dr_willis> george__,  driver issues perhaps.
[09:23] <balooo> i'm not sure how to configure static ip addresses when trying to do a network installation of ubuntu?
[09:23] <george__> dr_willis: but all worktd with livecd
[09:24] <george__> worked*
[09:24] <balooo> I basically can't use dhcp, because I'm behind a dhcp router i don't controll
[09:24] <dr-lee_> nauveau is for gpu not for the chipset of the mobo or?
[09:24] <unterschirm>  /msg NickServ identify sugarbunny
[09:24] <unterschirm> whoops!
[09:24] <balooo> are their any guide I could follow?
[09:24] <dr_willis> george__,  so...  Unity not starting, and defaulting to ubuntu-classic - is commonly due to driver issues.
[09:24] <royale1223> hi
[09:24] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  its a driver for the nvidia video chipsets.
[09:24] <george__> dr_willis: how do i fix it ?
[09:24] <Starminn> dr_willis: Alright, ti worked. Only problem, it uninstalled Banshee with it. I'm going to try reinstalling it. Ihad a bunch of plugins for Banshee and I think that's what did it (since I hear it's in Mono too). One of the Banshee plugins may have a dependncy for that package
[09:24] <dr_willis> george__,  whats your video card/chipset?
[09:25] <royale1223> how can i list all dirs using find?
[09:25] <dr-lee_> ok, you prefer the nvidia driver
[09:25] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  if using nvidia video cards.. i use the nvidia driver. yes..
[09:25] <george__> dr_willis: i am using a dell vostro 3500
[09:25] <dr-lee_> i heardt that the nvidia driver can make problems in the remastersys live iso
[09:25] <bullgard4> What package contains the file /usr/bin/X? package.ubuntu.com: "keyword too short (keywords need to have at leastr two characters)."
[09:25] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  if you are not installing to a nvidia system. then it shouldent matter.
[09:25] <dr-lee_> but here it seems my problem is the nouveau driver
[09:26] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  you are not installing to one of those dual-video card laptops are you? Optmius chipset>? that has intel and nvidia both?
[09:26] <dr-lee_> i am using an old 8400 nvidia gfx card
[09:26] <dr-lee_> no, but i have dual minitor here
[09:26] <dr-lee_> one dvi, one vga
[09:27] <dr-lee_> compiz is not working either, so i have to install the nauveau driver
[09:27] <dr_willis> ive only worked on  a live-usb-with-persistant save - to get nvidia going on them. I do recall issues whith making a nvidia-enabled live cd ages ago.
[09:27] <dr-lee_> i can install compiz, but all the effects like wobbling windows and the cube arent working
[09:27] <fryman> Running natty 64-bit, how do I get my internal mic working? I'm on an intel 82801h chipset.
[09:27] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, how do you have a system without X(org)?  did you install from mini?
[09:27] <george__> the idea of using a livecd is to know if the system will run on your computer ... but than you install and discover that it will run differently than the live
[09:28] <dr-lee_> there is an option for nvidia drivers in the remastersys menu
[09:28] <dr-lee_> i tried with opensource drivers and it isnt working, now i have to try the nvidia ones
[09:28] <george__> how do i get broadcom menu in ubuntu? i got no wireless too
[09:28] <dr-lee_> thank you all again!
[09:29] <dr-lee_> i asked a question in the debian irc and no one asnwered, these guys have their noses up in the air
[09:29] <royale1223> whats wrong with "find . -type d -exec chmod 744"
[09:30] <dr-lee_> doing a  distroupdate from 11.04 to 11.10 with kernel 3.o generic....works like a charm
[09:31] <kbrown90> is this the room for Ubuntu server?
[09:31] <netsnail> why do i install e1000 module in centos? I found it in kernel modules..
[09:31] <ikonia> netsnail: ask the guys in #centos
[09:31] <Starminn> kbrown90: For all flavors of Linux, yes
[09:31] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, FYI "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X" shows xserver-xorg on my system - yours is possibly different!!!
[09:31] <Giraffer> When I was 11 years old I visited Neverland Ranch for 3 days and had a ball with Michael Jackson.   We would go gokarting around sipping jesus juice and cuddling.     My favorite moment was when we climbed a tree, and he pulled off my shorts and underoos to stick his nice hot nigger dick into my ass while I grabbed a giraffe's head by the horns to felate me!
[09:31] <dr-lee_> and it great to see how a distrio upgrade happens
[09:31] <Starminn> kbrown90: I mean Ubuntu
[09:32] <ZykoticK9> kbrown90, #ubuntu-server
[09:32] <dr-lee_> c u all laters
[09:32] <dr-lee_> thanks
[09:32] <kbrown90> thats good... can someone give me opinions on which mail server i should run on my Ubuntu Server 10.10
[09:33] <ikonia> kbrown90: it's personal taste, research them based on your reqruirements
[09:34] <kbrown90> google has failed me in that area... me and my father are starting a non profit company and we are wanting to run it all on our own server... got the webserver all ready but we need a mailserver... and don't know which one to go with for a small company.
[09:35] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, are you here ?
[09:35] <ikonia> kbrown90: the size of the company has nothing to do with it - your reqruirements do, if you can't research a mail server, I suggest you hire someone to manage it for you, as you have no / little chance of running a secure mail service
[09:35] <leagris> kbrown90, if Ubuntu server is in your requirements like pointed by ikonia, then you may have advantages with the packaged and ubuntu supported postfix or exim as any other non packaged will be non-ubuntu specific and require tougher maintenance cycles.
[09:36] <Senjai> So guys
[09:36] <Senjai> Last night I started a discussion on  good programming language to learn for ubuntu
[09:36] <Senjai> Had some good responses
[09:36] <Senjai> But i'd like more opinions on books and sites
[09:36] <Senjai> for learning various languages
[09:36] <ikonia> Senjai: that's not what this channel is here for
[09:36] <ikonia> Senjai: join the channel of the language you want to learn, and ask for advice
[09:36] <Nobgul-bnc> Senjai, you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help and support channel
[09:36] <Senjai> For ubuntu?
[09:37] <Lasers> Senjai: There are plenty of great programming books and tutorials on the Internet. You have to start somewhere. Try Python.
[09:37] <ikonia> Senjai: it's nothing to do with ubuntu - the programming languages are languages in their own right
[09:37] <Senjai> Yes will do, sorry ikonia, thought this was the offtopic section. Just switched to irssi not used to it
[09:37] <Nobgul-bnc> Senjai, imho lua =)
[09:37] <Senjai> Lasers: I've programmed in C++/Win32 before. Ill continue however in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:38] <kbrown90> hummm... We are wanting to run everything via Ubuntu Server so yes that would be a requirement, but under webmin i have several different options for mailservers, and the postfix isn't allowing me to configure it at the moment.
[09:39] <ZykoticK9> !webmin | kbrown90
[09:39] <ikonia> kbrown90: webmin is not supported at all, do not use it
[09:40] <Nobgul-bnc> kbrown90, I use EHCP and have no problems with it.
[09:40] <noisewaterphd> Senjai, Lasers, I'd second Python, I'm a C and Java developer by profession, and I've been loving Python
[09:40] <kbrown90> ok, that is news... i can run everything via command line from our server, it's in house and all.
[09:40] <kbrown90> EHCP???
[09:40] <kbrown90> i'm at a lost at what that is
[09:40] <Nobgul-bnc> just google EHCP should be the top hit. Its a web based control panel like webmin
[09:41] <noisewaterphd> lmgtfy.com
[09:41] <dddbmt> what is the "byobu terminal" I see under "Accessories" in 11.04 ?
[09:41] <dddbmt> A new shell?
[09:41] <jack04> hello, any idea how to check a pid's connection port? i have tried ps -ux but that doesn't display what i want
[09:41] <kbrown90> ah i see. i haven't had any problems with webmin as of yet. but then again i'm not running the newest version of Ubuntu server either.
[09:41] <Nobgul-bnc> bring your own back up?
[09:42] <noisewaterphd> dddbmt, it 'pimps' your terminal
[09:42] <ZykoticK9> dddbmt, byobu is like screen (or a re-write/shell of screen perhaps)
[09:42] <dddbmt> So it's just another layout for my terminal?
[09:42] <unomi> Hi, how can I go about increasing the amount of ram that can be allocated to /dev/shm?
[09:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:43] <jesus> Hola.
[09:43] <ZykoticK9> !es | jesus
[09:44] <ill0gic> hi again
[09:44] <krambiorix> i'm sorry i ask tihs again cause i had a phone call ...: in ubuntu 10.04 LTS , i can't modify /etc/network/interfaces... (E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override) ) what can i do??
[09:44] <brainwave92> try modifying it from terminal
[09:44] <szal> krambiorix: try with privileges
[09:45] <brainwave92> yup
[09:45] <brainwave92> thats what i meant
[09:45] <ikonia> krambiorix: !wq as I told you earlier
[09:45] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, are you here ?
[09:45] <DICTATORS> help me i cant make work openvpn neither fppt in ubuntu and i wont open the ports in my router for do it
[09:45] <krambiorix> ikonia, no that didn't work
[09:45] <george__> i don't get it ... why the drivers work in livecd, but doesn't work after installed ?
[09:45] <ikonia> krambiorix: what did it say
[09:46] <krambiorix> ikonia, "interfaces" E212: Can't open file for writing -> after :wq! in vi
[09:46] <ikonia> krambiorix: what command are you using to edit it (exact command pleasE)
[09:46] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" then try
[09:46] <dattebayo> hey guys im having problem with my printer Cannon LBP3000
[09:47] <brainwave92> You have a 32 bit linux or 64 bit?
[09:47] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, i do sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces  and then :wq!  -> doesn't work
[09:47] <krambiorix> ikonia, i tried sudo vi .... and vi ....
[09:47] <h4l5> ooooops
[09:47] <ikonia> krambiorix: the only option then is your file system is read only and can't be change
[09:48] <ikonia> krambiorix: is this on a livecd or something like that ?
[09:48] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, to take a step back - why are you modifying this file?
[09:48] <brainwave92> dattebayo, answer my question....what is your linux? 32 bit or 64 bit
[09:49] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, to add a network interface
[09:49] <DICTATORS> now i have my ubuntu so full like my windows but i havent an vpn for ubuntu yet, help me help me...
[09:49] <dattebayo> 32bit
[09:49] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, can you answer ikonia's questions as well?
[09:50] <brainwave92> dattebayo, then you can use a script to install the printer, thats the easiest way
[09:50] <krambiorix> ikonia, nope it's a running server
[09:50] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, to "add a network interface" what do you mean?  to configure one?
[09:50] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, yes
[09:50] <skilz> whats the terminal command if I want to connect my wifi with no password? I tried 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR' but done nothing
[09:51] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, could you pastebin the output from "mount"?
[09:51] <skilz> whats the terminal command if I want to connect my wifi with no  password? I tried 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR' but done  nothing
[09:51] <ikonia> krambiorix: please pastebin the output of the command "mount"
[09:51] <brainwave92> skilz, you can try the gui maybe?
[09:52] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, http://pastebin.com/FbF7mWc2
[09:52] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, ^
[09:52] <krambiorix> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/FbF7mWc2
[09:52] <brainwave92> the network configuration? it displays all the available networks, and allows you to select one
[09:52] <skilz> Im using Fluxbox and Window Maker
[09:52] <brainwave92> dattebayo, whats the problem exactly?
[09:52] <skilz> so I need to do it manually
[09:53] <DICTATORS> now i have my ubuntu so full like my windows but i havent a vpn for ubuntu yet, help me help me... i want a vpn for ubuntu, please
[09:53] <brainwave92> Oh i see....i havent still felt the need to configure any network interface manually, i dont know. Others can help.
[09:53] <brainwave92> so full as in?
[09:53] <brainwave92> space?
[09:53] <szal> !repeat | DICTATORS
[09:53] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, sorry i've never played with quotas before, nor do i know what /dev/xvda1 is - so good luck, i'm no help
[09:53] <ikonia> krambiorix: what device is xvda ? that's not a normal scsi device id ?
[09:54] <krambiorix> ikonia, ZykoticK9 it's a vps i rent
[09:54] <krambiorix> ikonia, ZykoticK9 i don't know what xvda1 is
[09:54] <ikonia> krambiorix: ahhhh show me the output of the command "uname -a" please.
[09:54] <ikonia> krambiorix: I think I do, uname will tell me
[09:54] <DICTATORS> szal, the hope is the last...
[09:54] <skilz> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"NETGEAR"   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: E0:91:F5:ED:D5:14
[09:55] <skilz> I can connect to it in xfce but I can't in the console
[09:55] <krambiorix> ikonia, Linux test.test.eu 2.6.32-28-server #55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 23:57:16 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:55] <ikonia> krambiorix: that's a surprisingly normal out put.
[09:56] <roseyposey> ubuntu is a live CD?
[09:56] <brainwave92> roseyposey, yes
[09:56] <dr_willis> roseyposey,  yes. Most disrtos come as live cds thease days
[09:56] <brainwave92> except few....does debian have a live cd yet?
[09:56] <arios> Please someone to help me to start my Skype  web camera
[09:56] <krambiorix> ikonia, i can create files on the filesystem btw
[09:56] <ikonia> krambiorix: good to know,
[09:56] <dr_willis> brainwave92,  ive seen them.. may not be official.. but ive seen debian-live-cds yes.
[09:56] <ZykoticK9> brainwave92, a quasi-official one yes DebianLive
[09:56] <krambiorix> ikonia, it's just the interfaces file
[09:57] <DICTATORS> ok but ubuntu is an os very bad if you want to have a vpn
[09:57] <ikonia> krambiorix: well, it looks like you're running on a xen host, so there is a possability that the host has locked that file
[09:57] <jpds> DICTATORS: No.
[09:57] <roseyposey> thanks brainwave92 and dr_willis I thought so, but haven't experimented in a while.  Pclos user
[09:57] <brainwave92> DICTATORS, now that cant be true!
[09:57] <krambiorix> ikonia, could it be because of ispconfig?
[09:57] <DICTATORS> jpds, no why why why?
[09:57] <ZykoticK9> DICTATORS, if you refuse to open the required ports - how can you expect it to work?
[09:57] <jpds> DICTATORS: Works fine for me.
[09:57] <dr_willis> ssh tunnel perhaps.
[09:57] <AlexDevilLX> Hi All!:)
[09:58] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, i think ssh tunnelling a VPN is rather redundant, isn't it?
[09:58] <ikonia> krambiorix: ahhh very possible, that tool is the devil, it could be looking the file.
[09:59] <noisewaterphd> DICTATORS, vpn is simpleon ubuntu
[09:59] <noisewaterphd> I connect to work through vpn everyday with ubuntu
[09:59] <brainwave92> ZykoticK9, as far as i understand, if a network is already private, like a vpn is, then ssh is redundant
[09:59] <orchata> hi guys, I have a live CD with a lot of apps in there. I don't have a good internet connection right now, so dowloading apps is not an option for me. So I thought if I could extract the deb's from that live cd, but don't know how to do it. The "pool" is only 10 MB, So I guess everything is stored in filesystem.squashfs.  I extracted it, but don't know how to get debs from it.
[09:59] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  no idea. I find this channel ofted gets way too many vpn/vps questions that are sort of skirting the 'ubuntu support' area. :)
[10:00] <DICTATORS> zykotick9 in windows  i have 7 vpn and in windows without open ports
[10:00] <noisewaterphd> brainwave92, private meanng it puts you on the private network of where you connect to
[10:00] <dr_willis> I need to read up on vpn some day and see if i can set one up so i can get to  my homepc from work. :) someday
[10:00] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, i installed the extras but still doesn't work :(
[10:00] <noisewaterphd> brainwave92, ssh as in encrypted traffic, so no, not redundant at all
[10:00] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, tell me the error again
[10:00] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, ya, i've never played with vpn either.  with ssh i don't see the need ;)
[10:01] <brainwave92> noisewaterphd, ok....thanks...i'm just a beginner on networking.....thanks
[10:01] <Starminn> orchata: There's a CD you can get that has many apps. Lemme find the name...
[10:01] <ikonia> krambiorix: would you be able to do a test for me please ?
[10:01] <noisewaterphd> brainwave92, no problem
[10:01] <krambiorix> ikonia, sure
[10:01] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok, do the following, each time feeding back the results if possible
[10:01] <ikonia> krambiorix: sudo -i
[10:01] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  yep. same here. I did use some free vpn once ages ago.. but just as a test
[10:02] <Starminn> !aptoncd | orchata
[10:02] <orchata> Starminn: I have the CD  (Ubuntu ultimate edition. It has all the deb's but I don't know how to extract them. Plus I don't want to install it)
[10:02] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, VPN lets your machine act as though you are on the same private network that you are connecting to, not the same thing as ssh at all
[10:02] <szal> !ultimate | orchata
[10:03] <krambiorix> ikonia, i'm already root so no feedback
[10:03] <brainwave92> orchata, u got any leads on it yet?
[10:03] <ikonia> krambiorix: how did you become root ?
[10:03] <orchata> brainwave92:  nope
[10:03] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, oh i know what a VPN does, I just don't see the need ;)  I'm able to do anything "I" need, remotely using SSH
[10:03] <thebomb> sudo su -
[10:03] <krambiorix> ikonia, i logged in as root
[10:03] <ikonia> thebomb: no - that is not correct
[10:03] <krambiorix> ikonia, no other users yet
[10:03] <ikonia> krambiorix: how the ubuntu system should have no root password
[10:03] <orchata> brainwave92:  I just want to know how can I get debs from filesytem.squashfs
[10:03] <thebomb> ikonia, ok sorry
[10:03] <ikonia> krambiorix: ughhh, I guess your ISP has made a "custom" build
[10:04] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok - now do "ls -la /etc/network/interfaces"
[10:04] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[10:04] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, well you said that ssh tunneling a vpn was redundant, when it isn't at all, so I was trying to help out by explaining what vpn is
[10:04] <krambiorix> ikonia, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340 2011-04-28 10:50 /etc/network/interfaces
[10:04] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, when i try to playback from youtube in totem under xubuntu 10.04 it tells me this : GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[10:04] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok - now "touch /etc/network/interfaces"
[10:05] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, i was under the impression the VPN was already encrypted?  Isn't it?
[10:05] <DICTATORS> in windows i have 7 vpn againts the censure but in ubuntu ?? what can i do?
[10:05] <ikonia> krambiorix: that should do nothing, then redo (and post) ls -la /etc/network/interfaces
[10:05] <brainwave92> @all:anyone knows about a 'squashfs' , module?
[10:05] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, no, well, yes, with ssh
[10:05] <ikonia> brainwave92: what about it ?
[10:05] <brainwave92> orchata: http://cufts2.lib.sfu.ca:8033/trac/dbwiz/wiki/LiveCDCustomization read that link, while i do the same
[10:05] <llutz> DICTATORS: are you using networkmanager? install those vpn-plugins, configure it, use it, done
[10:06] <krambiorix> ikonia, touch: cannot touch `/etc/network/interfaces': Permission denied
[10:06] <brainwave92> ikonia, orchata needs to extract a squashfs file, and for doing that, as i understand, you need a module for reading that
[10:06] <jpds> noisewaterphd: wut?
[10:06] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, i think you should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network
[10:06] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok - your ISP has locked it at the Xen host, that confirms it
[10:06] <faLUCE>  HI. Is it possible to  launch one instance of myprogram displayed at position 100, 100 , another instance of the same myprogram at position 150, 300 and so on?
[10:06] <ikonia> krambiorix: can you show me one last thing the output of the command "id"
[10:06] <dr_willis> The original version of SquashFS used gzip compression, although Linux kernel 2.6.34 added support for LZMA[1] and LZO compression[2], and Linux kernel 2.6.38 added support for xz compression.[3]
[10:06] <ikonia> brainwave92:  it's just a file system, you just mount it
[10:07] <orchata> brainwave92:   I have extracted the squashfs and it looks just the same as my root. I guess it is already installed on the livecd.
[10:07] <krambiorix> ikonia, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[10:07] <thebomb> never knew about the sudo -i and -s thanks!
[10:07] <edgars> yo
[10:07] <ikonia> krambiorix: confirmed then, your ISP has locked it on the xen hypervisor
[10:07] <DICTATORS> llutz yes i have installed openvpn  and fppt network but dont connet dont work in windows my 7 vpn yes connet yes work
[10:07] <brainwave92> ikonia, so mounting it we can see all the packages stored there?
[10:08] <Nobgul-bnc> what does sudo -s do?
[10:08] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,   check out    http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[10:08] <krambiorix> ikonia, so it's not ISPConfig's fault?
[10:08] <brainwave92> orchata, http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/hacks/opensource/0596527209/i-0596527209-chp-1-sect-4.html
[10:08] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,  gives you a root 'shell'
[10:08] <jpds> DICTATORS: Well, check the logs in /var/log/syslog
[10:08] <brainwave92> you'll find all  you need...lunchtym...bye!
[10:08] <ikonia> brainwave92: correct, squashfs is just a compressed file system, so if you mount it, you'll just see the file system that the livecd would present if it was booted
[10:09] <llutz> DICTATORS: then check your logs and your configs. what errors do you get etc.pp. vpn works fine here, though
[10:09] <brainwave92> ikonia, thanks...thats what orchata needs to do
[10:09] <thebomb> Nobgul-bnc, also the man page of sudo will tell u
[10:09] <ikonia> krambiorix: it looks like it's not, it's more likley it's been locked at the hypervisor level
[10:09] <brainwave92> .exit
[10:09] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, do you have the ffmpeg plugin for totem installed?
[10:09] <Nobgul-bnc> Ah ok thanks i use sudo -i all the time but never used -s =)
[10:09] <ikonia> brainwave92: not really, as it won't contain any debs for him to use elsewhere
[10:09] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,  ive never noticed the differance tween -i and -s - there IS a differance.. but it may not be noticeabel in your setup
[10:09] <DICTATORS> in the page web of vpn client dont say me : you must open ports nubers xxxxx  and xxxx tcp, udp
[10:10] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,  one runs the root users init scripts , other dosent.. I think is the main diff.
[10:10] <jpds> DICTATORS: You don't have to open any ports on the VPN client.
[10:10] <llutz> DICTATORS: to use a vpn-client you don't need to "open" any port atall
[10:10] <krambiorix> ikonia, okay i'll call my provider then
[10:10] <orchata> brainwave92:  thanks
[10:11] <noisewaterphd> jpds, ZykoticK9, yes? great link, what is your point
[10:11] <llutz> DICTATORS: exception: you're blocking all outgoing stuff on your own
[10:11] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, VPN is already encrypted
[10:11] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, no, it is not
[10:11] <glontu> hi
[10:12] <glontu> can someone tell me how to make a little script get ran when my computer starts up ?
[10:12] <krambiorix> ikonia, thx!
[10:12] <noobie25> is there a way to reset my wireless connection?   My wireless adapter is not showing any connections
[10:12] <lejack> use a cron job
[10:12] <glontu> i need to run some network card configurations and management script
[10:12] <DICTATORS> lluz ok in ubuntu -es they say me you must open ports if you want a vpn for ubuntu
[10:12] <jpds> DICTATORS: Well, they're wrong.
[10:13] <llutz> DICTATORS: only if you want to run vpn-server, you have to.
[10:13] <DICTATORS> ok i think the same
[10:13] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, yes i have it installed
[10:14] <dyd> hi all
[10:14] <Gryllida> ill0gic: noisewaterphd left this channel.
[10:14] <DICTATORS> not i only want a vpn client for ubuntu
[10:14] <ill0gic> uff
[10:14] <ill0gic> can anyone help with totem error under xubuntu ?
[10:14] <lejack> dictators solution: openvpn
[10:15] <wildbat> !upstart | glontu
[10:15] <dyd> i've installed Guake Terminal, and i'd like to let the program start automatically, i'm in system -> preferences -> startup applications but i can't locate the program... where do ubuntu install programs?
[10:15] <llutz> dyd: /usr/bin/guake
[10:15] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, can you watch YouTube with your browser?  Why do you want to use Totem?
[10:16] <dyd> llutz: thank you!
[10:16] <DICTATORS> lejack ok but with open vpn i have it installed but dont connet dont work in ubuntu in windows no problem with openvpn and i have 7 vpn in windows
[10:16] <Guest6244> WaNtEd|MuSiC|002
[10:16] <ill0gic> ZykoticK9, because it's really slow with the browser ... i thought maybe in totem will be more faster
[10:16] <dr_willis> dyd,  use 'which quke' to discover the path is another way to find out.
[10:16] <glontu> thanks wildbat
[10:17] <szal> !list | Guest6244
[10:17] <llutz> DICTATORS: then check your logs and your configs. what errors do you get etc.pp. stop repeating your 7 win-vpns, that won't help you here in any case
[10:17] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, FYI i get the same error on my Debian system -- Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error
[10:17] <ill0gic> yea ... and google doesn't seem to know much about it
[10:18] <dr_willis> seneral supporting error.. somtning crashed so bad they dont know what to report. :)
[10:18] <Starminn> dyd: By the way, most programs tend ot be under /usr/bin for me )if I remember correctly)
[10:18] <dyd> dr_willis: thank you for the hint
[10:19] <unomi> btw - anyone experiencing google chrome crashes after the recent update?
[10:19] <dyd> Starminn: yea seems like it's default directory
[10:19] <dr_willis> dyd,  you can also copy (for example) the quake.desktop file to  /home/yourusername/.config/autostart/   and it should also autorun
[10:19] <DICTATORS> lluzt the logs eith with the errors are they in the network vpn of ubuntu?
[10:19] <Starminn> ill0gic: In Firefox you can use the system apps for things like PDFs and ODFs. Not sure about audio though
[10:19] <Starminn> audio/video*
[10:20] <unomi> Seeing some browser crashes with 12.0.742.112 - it even manages to take the X session with it now and then
[10:20] <llutz> DICTATORS: [11:08:52] <jpds> DICTATORS: Well, check the logs in /var/log/syslog
[10:20] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, try installing gnome-python
[10:20] <unomi> 99% sure it is the browser - haven't changed much else
[10:22] <DICTATORS> ok llutz ok your instruction is in my list thank you very much and i hope to found the solution for vpn in ubuntu.
[10:22] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/336597 seems that this error has been around for a while :(
[10:23] <DaHaiz> hey guys! following problem: got natty and at first with unity. unity crashed somehow when installing samba. i could repair the system with recovery console. now i'm using gnome. but gnome doesnt recognize my wlan although it works  (as you see, im in here) as i have it configured manually in /etc/network/interfaces. the problem is that i cant install anything within the software center. does anyone know i can tell gnome that my internet work
[10:23] <DaHaiz> s?
[10:23] <DaHaiz> (before unity crashed it had recognized it)
[10:23] <dr_willis> DaHaiz,  normal apt-get install XXXXXX   works?
[10:24] <brainwave92> orchata, u did it?
[10:24] <DaHaiz> i've no example right now, but apt-get update works
[10:24] <DaHaiz> so it has to have a connection
[10:25] <dsathe> wats the output of ifconfig ?
[10:25] <dsathe> yeah i guess u do
[10:26] <DaHaiz> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:af:5f:3b:e4
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           inet6 addr: fe80::215:afff:fe5f:3be4/64 Scope:Link
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           RX packets:5442 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:26] <FloodBot1> DaHaiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           TX packets:5324 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[10:27] <dsathe> DaHaiz: u r connected
[10:28] <glaksmono> anyone is here?
[10:28] <brainwave92> none...
[10:28] <szal> wrong question
[10:28] <glaksmono> how do you link files & folders, so that the changes in 1 folder is reflected on the other?
[10:28] <brainwave92> better question!
[10:28] <glaksmono> = ="..
[10:28] <roseyposey> :-)
[10:28] <glaksmono> :(
[10:29] <dsathe> simlink
[10:29] <dsathe> make a link
[10:29] <orchata> brainwave92:  not really. The both links show how to create/modify the livecd and no info on taking all debs from the squashfs. I guess there is no debs in there. It looks like they are already installed. So I would need to some how build new debs from that DVD
[10:29] <glaksmono> yeah, but i couldn't make it recursive to files and folders
[10:29] <glaksmono> dsathe: how do you do that? can you give me the command?
[10:29] <dsathe> u in gnome ?
[10:29] <glaksmono> dsathe: i tried ln -s source destination
[10:29] <dsathe> ln -s
[10:29] <dsathe> kk
[10:29] <glaksmono> dsathe: but it doesn't reflect the changes on the files
[10:29] <DaHaiz> dsathe how do i tell gnome that it has a connection? the software center says that something's wrong with my connection. but it works as you see
[10:30] <glaksmono> dsathe: when you do ls -al on the destination folder, it doesn't seem that the type is a link :-/
[10:30] <yorgos> i'm a noob but have you ever heard of something called rsync
[10:30] <brainwave92> orchata, oh i see.....u need to 'install' the debs...but the question is, are they as debs on the squashfs?
[10:30] <dr_willis> glaksmono,   you did a link wrong then..  what filesystem is this on?
[10:30] <yorgos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync
[10:30] <DaHaiz> dsathe: i've just seen that the status bar menu says that my wlan device is not managed
[10:31] <dr_willis> if you set up a link properly, the destination, (or source) are  identical    You are not syncing 2 files.. its one file with 2 names.
[10:31] <orchata> brainwave92:  no, when I mounted the squashfs it looks just the same as my root directory in my laptom. So I guess there is no debs. I wonder how the live cd install the system then? Just copy paste?
[10:31] <ZykoticK9> glaksmono, a symbolic link is a pointer to another location/file
[10:31] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  give details of exactly what you are trying to do.
[10:32] <glaksmono> dr_willis: i'm on Mac
[10:32] <glaksmono> dr_willis: haha
[10:32] <dr_willis> orchata,  there would be no .debs on the squashfs...
[10:32] <brainwave92> orchata, you can package them as deb cant you? that might be possible
[10:32] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  os-x uses bsd. so it can proberly do links also.
[10:32] <orchata> brainwave92:  Not sure how to do that
[10:33] <szal> glaksmono: anyhoo, that doesn't answer the question..  what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:36] <DaHaiz> dsathe: i've just seen that the status bar menu says that my wlan device is not managed? (how does this flood-auto-mute work?)
[10:37] <ZykoticK9> DaHaiz, if you are using /etc/network/interfaces network-manager will say "not managed"
[10:37] <dsathe> did u play aroud in /etc/network
[10:37] <glaksmono> szal: i'm trying to create a link to the files and folder of Source, so that when I make changes on Destination, the changes on the files inside Destinatoin is reflected on Source... does that make sense?
[10:37] <dr_willis> You are manageing it by hand. :)
[10:38] <dsathe> exactly as dr_willis said
[10:38] <glaksmono> dr_willis: currently, yes :(
[10:38] <szal> glaksmono: and where are Source and Destination located respectively?
[10:38] <glaksmono> dr_willis: looking for more efficient way...
[10:38] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  You can make a link from directory 'foo1' and give it a new name  foo2     if you access stuff in foo2. you are actually alering things in foo1. youa re not syncing.. the data files are the same.
[10:38] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  if you have 2 differnt folders and want the contents to be identical,. then you do need to do some sort of rsync then.
[10:38] <DaHaiz> yes i did. /etc/network/interfaces. otherwise my network didnt work. how can i tell the network manager to manage it? i've just configured it myself because the network-manager didnt want to.. ;)
[10:38] <glaksmono> hmm..
[10:38] <glaksmono> yes
[10:38] <glaksmono> rsync!!
[10:39] <glaksmono> that's the thing!!
[10:39] <glaksmono> haha
[10:39] <glaksmono> i need rsync
[10:39] <FloodBot1> glaksmono: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  theres also various 'fuse' tools that can make it more transparent.
[10:39] <brainwave92> orchata, you can install the os inside virtualbox
[10:40] <ZykoticK9> DaHaiz, you need to remove your settings from /etc/network/interfaces to allow Network Manager to use/configure them
[10:40] <orchata> brainwave92: I could, but I don't really need the os. I need some apps from it
[10:40] <brainwave92> and use apt in cd to generate .debs of all, paste that in a pendrive, and install that in the host os
[10:40] <brainwave92> whatsay?
[10:40]  * szal thinks that orchata could've long been done downloading what he wants instead of following an idea that just turned out useless
[10:40] <kodapa> I'm using virtualbox to run windows 7 to run vmware vcenter client
[10:40] <kodapa> yo dawg
[10:40] <DaHaiz> all of my settings regarding wlan0? as its the device the network manager should manage?
[10:41] <DaHaiz> (including the auto wlan0 inet static line?)
[10:41] <brainwave92> szal, maybe if there IS a way, we must find it
[10:41] <Senjai|Busy> Howcome npviewer.bin (assuming flash for online radio) uses 33% of my CPU?
[10:41] <orchata> szal:  fully agree with you, but the machine I should work right now, does very low internet
[10:41] <Senjai|Busy> Also how can i tell if Ubuntu recognizees that i have two cores?
[10:41] <szal> orchata: as long as you don't pay by the megabyte, that shouldn't be an issue..  other than time, that is
[10:42] <brainwave92> Senjai|Busy, (funny name) you can see system recourses
[10:42] <brainwave92> *resources
[10:42] <leagris> Senjai|Busy, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:42] <orchata> szal:  Time is an issue!
[10:42] <Starminn> Senjai|Busy: Go to "System Monitor" and look in the "System": tab
[10:42] <szal> brainwave92: if the DVD doesn't contain actual packages, there is no way I know of
[10:42] <Senjai|Busy> Starminn: leagris thank you guys
[10:42] <brainwave92> szal, but the live cd actually installs them doesnt it? so there MUST be a way!
[10:44] <dr_willis> the alternative cd. has some debs on it - i think. because it can be used to upgrade an existing system. Live cd. dose not  i belive
[10:44] <glaksmono> how do you create alias of a command?
[10:44] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  via the 'alias' command... for bash. or link iot to a differnt name
[10:44] <dr_willis>  ln -s /use/bin/foo /usr/bin/foo2
[10:44] <dr_willis> oops a typo. :) and sudo would be needed in that case
[10:44] <szal> brainwave92, orchata: other than that, Ultimate Edition is NOT Ubuntu, it's a derivative we don't support here
[10:45] <glaksmono> hmm.. afai remember it wasn't like this :-/
[10:45] <glaksmono> i just wanna create a script
[10:45] <brainwave92> szal, but he wants to install them in ubuntu....so whats wrong?
[10:45] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, careful MAC uses a different file system layout (i think).  glaksmono
[10:45] <glaksmono> and then i can add to environment variable
[10:45] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  i dont know  what you are rembering.. but the alias command and ln -s are ways...
[10:45] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  you can make a 2 line script that just runs a command ...
[10:45] <brainwave92> alias attrib='chmod'
[10:45] <glaksmono> shell script
[10:45] <dr_willis> and copy it somewhere in your path.
[10:46] <brainwave92> for a script, you can type alias
[10:46] <dr_willis> #!/bin/bash        /the/command/to/run  (2 lines)
[10:46] <claviusmond> how do I add tv streaming addresses to vlc? All I have tried, with information found on the net, has failed
[10:46] <dr_willis> an alias is not a script. :)
[10:46] <brainwave92> dr_willis, i thought he wanted to create an alias for a command, in a script
[10:46] <dr_willis> so theres at least 3 ways to do what he wants.. dependiong on the details.
[10:46] <BarryB> Can anyone tell me, what runlevel is Xorg / X11?
[10:46] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  so be a bit more clear in what you want to do.
[10:47] <dr_willis> !runlevel | BarryB
[10:47] <dr_willis> BarryB,  none of them. its started by the gdm service.
[10:47] <dr_willis> which runs on all runlevels except 0 1 and 6
[10:47] <BarryB> ok, how can i determine if x11 is runnign before another process on start up?
[10:48] <glaksmono> dr_willis: i'm trying to add something into environment variable, so that instead of doing liek rsync -r bla bla
[10:48] <glaksmono> i can just do rsync
[10:48] <glaksmono> and it automatically grab that command
[10:48] <glaksmono> or something like that
[10:48] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  put an alias in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[10:48] <dr_willis> dont name it 'rsync' however.. :)
[10:48] <dr_willis> a name like 'myrsync' may be better.
[10:49] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/aliases.html
[10:50] <dr_willis> alias lm="ls -l | more"
[10:51] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: packages.ubuntu.com: "keyword too short (keywords need to have at least two characters)." This is no sufficient reason to argue that "you have a system without X(org)?" The search function in packages.ubuntu.com simply does not accept a very short filename such as "X".
[10:52] <glaksmono> dr_willis: what should i put on .bash_profile?
[10:52] <Viking667> There are precious few commands that have one letter.
[10:52] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, so search for xorg
[10:52] <glaksmono> alias <command> ?
[10:52] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, FYI "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X" shows xserver-xorg on my system - yours is possibly different!!!
[10:52] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  an alias that does what you want....  i juat showed an example above...
[10:52] <Viking667> actually, search for Xorg, if the searcher is case-sensitive
[10:53] <Loreley> Hallo, is it possibly dangerous to use a Proxy <IP_ADDRESS> on port 8080? I want websites to see me as US computer.
[10:53] <dr_willis> alias somefancyname="command --with --whateverarguments -you want"
[10:53] <Loreley> I have found this IP on http://newipnow.com/
[10:53] <dr_willis> Loreley,  you are just connecting to some proxy you found online? thats not really a great idea.
[10:54] <dr_willis> i definatly wouldent do any banking, or other personal work that way.
[10:54] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: On my system "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X" shows xserver-xorg  as well. Thank you very much for your help. --  But this is no sufficient reason to infer that "your system is possibly different".
[10:54] <DasEi> Loreley: not if sys is properly configured; you can use tor and tell him which adressblocks to use on ipv4
[10:54] <BarryB> what runlevel is the gdm service?
[10:54] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, i'm not running Ubuntu - so i need YOU to check
[10:55] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: Ah! I did not know.  --  Thank you for explaining.
[10:55] <blargg> I'm considering deleting the ubuntu-docs package. For one, the help viewer literally takes a minute of disk thrashing to open. Is the same help content available on the ubuntu website? (I can't even open the help viewer now to see what it shows, as it segfaults)
[10:56] <dr_willis> most people dont even notice there  are docs :)
[10:57] <Calinou> most people dont even notice they arent understandable :)
[10:57] <jpds> blargg: help.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <blargg> Occasionally I accidentally hit F1 or something and then my machine grinds to a halt for a minute and I don't realize what has happened until that awful thing opens.
[10:57] <blargg> jpds, but is that the same content as ubuntu-docs? I just want a positive confirmation.
[10:57] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, can you imagine the number of packages that contain the letter "x"?  searching for a single letter is to common!
[10:59] <dimas> what is wrong with this command? sudo ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=hda-codec-realtek --with-oss=yes
[10:59] <dr_willis> ubuntu help docs.. use yelp.. and yelp started almost instantly here for me.
[10:59] <Loreley> dr_willis, DasEi I want to use it only, when I want to see content on youtube not beeing shown to german adresses.
[10:59] <szal> dimas: well, what is wrong w/ it?
[10:59] <blargg> dr_willis, I'm on a 2003-era machine, maybe that's the cause
[10:59] <Viking667> Is there any way I can get apt-get to cough up exactly which version of a package will be installed with "apt-get install pkgname"?
[10:59] <ZykoticK9> dimas, you don't typically need sudo for either ./configure or make - just the last part (doesn't explain your error - just a heads up)
[10:59] <dimas> szal says command not found
[11:00] <noobie25> Ubuntu GUI slightly glitchy (example:  resizing window at the corner is very hard ) ... how can i fix this?
[11:00] <Loreley> dr_willis, DasEi and I do not want to use tor. That is way too much for my wishes.
[11:00] <DasEi> Loreley: ic, google free proxy servers and use on located in us, might try a few to find sufficient bandwith/flash
[11:00] <szal> dimas: that means that there is no configure script in your current directory
[11:00] <ZykoticK9> Viking667, "apt-cache policy foo"
[11:00] <Viking667> dimas: il there a configure script?
[11:00] <jab_doa> hi
[11:00] <Viking667> err, right.
[11:00] <DasEi> one*
[11:00] <faLUCE> is there a way to retrieve automatically the windowid of an application after launching it?
[11:00] <blargg> Viking667, there's also a dry-run/simulate mode for apt-get, to see what it would do without actually doing it.
[11:00] <szal> DasEi: either that, or it's not executable (which would be quite rare)
[11:00] <dr_willis> noobie25,  people have mentioned how the default theme makes that a bit hard to grab. You could try a different theme/window decoration that uses bigger  frame/handels.
[11:00] <jab_doa> can i somehome disable pam_motd for certain users? Its eating a lot of disk io for nagios checks. Any ideas?
[11:01] <DasEi> szal: nickmiss ?
[11:01] <dimas> i did decompress....tar xjvf alsa-driver.tar.bz2 cd modules/alsa-driver
[11:01] <szal> dimas: yes, sorry
[11:01] <jab_doa> somehow
[11:01] <Viking667> blargg: hm. It says fglrx-2:8.840-0ubuntu4
[11:01] <szal> DasEi: damn, I can't nick-complete today..
[11:01] <Viking667> ... yet I know a later version exists
[11:01] <DasEi> szal: lol, nvm , di mas
[11:02] <MyWay> hi
[11:02] <MyWay> today I powered on my notebook and I can't unlock empathy's password anymore, it says it's wrong, but I didn't change anything
[11:02] <MyWay> what can I do?
[11:03] <dimas> szal you saw that last line i posted?...tar xjvf alsa-driver.tar.bz2 cd modules/alsa-driver
[11:03] <dimas> why they put the cd modules/alsa driver after?
[11:04] <Lasers> MyWay: Use old password (if you did use something else).
[11:04] <Lasers> MyWay: Or just kill it -- Nuke the configuraitons.
[11:05] <manuva> is a /boot partition an actual, labelled partition or is it just a partition used for installing the bootloader on?
[11:05] <MyWay> Lasers: I never changed it, but it says it's wrong now! How can I kill it?
[11:05] <blargg> MyWay, be sure you've not got someone else's machine, and if so, be suspicious of unauthorized access for one.
[11:05] <Lasers> MyWay: I'm not sure. You'd have to look for it in your ~/ -- Maybe in ~/.gnome* or ~/.config -- Look for empathy directory.
[11:05] <MyWay> blargg: no, I'm the only who have access
[11:06] <MyWay> Lasers: it's not only for empathy, probably this password unlock all network software of gnome, I don't know
[11:06] <dr_willis> MyWay,  you mean the Keyring password?