[15:29] <smeril> and i will try copy and paste
[15:29] <llutz> smeril: save my paste to a file 8make sure you get all lines) and copy that file to /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:29] <ian__> hang on, I can open kate as "sudo kate" and edit system files without a password, but I had to enter a password to copy a file?
[15:30] <smeril> acces denied
[15:30] <mefisto__> ian__: sudo asks for a password, unless you've already entered it in the last few minutes
[15:30] <llutz> smeril: sudo cp sile-you-saved.txt  /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:30] <llutz> file
[15:31] <smeril> file not found
[15:32] <ian__> mefisto__: I know, but I hadn't entered it for about 10-15 minutes. I can still open kate with sudo, but I couldn't copy. I've tried using different konsole windows but it didn't make a difference
[15:32] <jckl> smeril: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:33] <smeril> what do i do after i saved
[15:33] <jckl> file -> quit
[15:33] <smeril> after that
[15:33] <ian__> is there a way of changing the length of time you have between re-entering the password?
[15:34] <ian__> 1-2 minutes seems like a good time, 20 seems very excessive
[15:35] <mefisto__> smeril: sudo apt-get update, then (re)install firefox again
[15:35] <ian__> and could give rise to security problems where you don't know that a script is running something in superuser mode
[15:35] <Tallen> Any way to make Konversation have a transparent background?
[15:36] <ian__> I'm suprised that you don't have to re-enter the password when switching apps, too
[15:36] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[15:36] <smeril> E: Typ "1" är inte känd på rad 1 i listan över källor /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:36] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$
[15:36] <jckl> unzip it
[15:36] <ian__> that seems like a glaring problem to me
[15:36] <jckl> erm wrong window lol
[15:37] <jel> Tallen: probably only by using a compositing window manager that knows how to do that with any window.  KDE4 might have a version of konversation available which does it, but probably not yet.
[15:37] <ian__> back in a bit, must kill x
[15:37] <Tallen> jel: oh, I just noticed I can in Xchat but not in Konversation.
[15:38] <smeril> something happend after i copy and pasted
[15:38] <smeril> now i cant update
[15:39] <mefisto__> smeril: you replaced the old text with the new text? or did you leave the old text?
[15:39] <luca> devo scaricare vlc per linux come fo
[15:39] <llutz> smeril: safe that paste again, but WITHOUT the line-numbers
[15:39] <smeril> replaced to this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52614/
[15:39] <smeril> ok
[15:39] <llutz> smeril: take the part at the bottom of the page
[15:39] <jimmy51> are there any VPN specialists in here?
[15:41] <smeril> finanly it uppdated
[15:42] <jel> jimmy51: try ##networking
[15:42] <hola> i have a problem with vlc
[15:43] <jimmy51> jel:  is that a kubuntu specific vpn channel?  my problems are with a known bug and needing help with the workaround
[15:43] <mefisto__> smeril: remove firefox (sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox) then install again (sudo apt-get install firefox)
[15:43] <jimmy51> jel:  bug   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/151867
[15:43] <jel> jimmy51: nope, it's not
[15:45] <smeril> i have done it check my paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52619/
[15:46] <smeril> error message
[15:46] <nuxil> g.day all
[15:46] <llutz> smeril: sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:48] <jimmy51> how might one install a .patch file they've downloaded?
[15:48] <nuxil> you dont install it.. you patch your code with it :p
[15:48] <jckl> lol
[15:49] <jimmy51> nuxil:  that sounds tricky.
[15:49] <jckl> if you have a current patch you have to remove it before applying the new patch.
[15:51] <jimmy51> i don't think i have any patches...  i just found two patches on a bug report for my problem and downloaded them.  i guess i was thinking like a windows patch.
[15:51] <radioaktivstorm> hello, does anyone have a link to a list of all of the packages installed under the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[15:52] <llutz> radioaktivstorm: aptitude show kubuntu-de
[15:52] <llutz> radioaktivstorm: aptitude show kubuntu-desktop
[15:52] <jckl> jimmy look up the patch command ;)
[15:52] <radioaktivstorm> llutz thanks! :)
[15:52] <jimmy51> !patch
[15:52] <ubotu> Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results.  There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines.
[15:53] <nuxil> jimmy51, example of use..  cd /usr/src/linux ; patch -p0 new-patch
[15:53] <nuxil> that if the patch is in /usr/src/linux
[15:53] <nuxil> but look up man patch
[15:54] <mefisto__> radioaktivstorm: if you want a webpage: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/metapackages/kubuntu-desktop
[15:54] <radioaktivstorm> wow. both are very useful! thanks :)
[15:54] <jimmy51> nuxil:  thanks... i'll try to figure out what that means
[15:57] <jckl> jimmy in a terminal type man patch and it will give you detailed help
[15:57] <jel> what's the command to build a deb by wrapping make install again?  dh_make?
[15:57] <nuxil> OMG. OMG what shall i do now.. i just been scaned by Malwarecrush V2. it says i got 9 infected files it say. 5 dll file and some coockies.
[15:57] <nuxil> LOL
[15:57] <nuxil> <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:57] <nuxil> heh
[15:58] <cef> "man patch" - quotes help guys
[15:58] <jckl> i couldnt get my <IP_ADDRESS> kernel to load lol
[15:58] <Chousuke> jel: checkinstall
[15:58] <hola> where is located the file contains the kde menu applications
[15:58] <hola> where is located the file contains the kde menu applications?
[15:58] <jel> Chousuke: that's it.  Thanks :)
[15:59] <nuxil> hola, ? what you mean
[16:00] <mefisto__> hola: you want to edit your kde menu?
[16:00] <cef> hola: do you mean the file that gets used to display the actual menu entries in the KDE menu system>
[16:00] <nuxil> hola, 2 ways. go in your kmeny and right click and edit menu
[16:00] <nuxil> or use whereis which app
[16:00] <hola> cef: yes
[16:00] <nuxil> *whereis | which
[16:01] <hola> nuxil: of course, but i would like to edit it with terminal
[16:01] <cef> hola: not sure about the file, but if you right-click on the K, you'll get an option for the menu editor
[16:02] <mefisto__> hola: or you can right-click individual apps in the menu too
[16:04] <mefisto__> hola: take a look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/How_To_Configure_the_KDE_3_3_Menu_manually_without_KMenuEdit
[16:05] <jimmy51> should this do anything?  sudo patch -p01 kubuntu_08_ppp_support.patch
[16:05] <jckl> jimmy extract the patch
[16:05] <jckl> then use patch -E -p01 < path i believe
[16:06] <jimmy51> jckl:  it just looks like a text file or something... nothing to extract
[16:06] <cef> a .patch file is text
[16:06] <jckl> "patch -E -p01 < path" path is the path of the files
[16:06] <jckl> you need to get the source files for the patch
[16:06] <cef> but you need to redirect the file into patch
[16:06] <jckl> cef can better help i bet
[16:07] <jimmy51> here's what i've got:  sudo patch -E -p01 kubuntu_08_ppp_support.patch
[16:07] <cef> but you need the source code for the app you intend to patch first
[16:07] <jimmy51> cef:  whoa
[16:08] <nuxil> indeed
[16:08] <cef> jimmy51: UNLESS it's patching a config file
[16:08] <cef> where did you get this patch jimmy51
[16:08] <cef> ??
[16:08] <jimmy51> cef:  here's the bug page:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/151867
[16:08] <nuxil> you can also cd dir ; cat new-patch | patch -p0
[16:09] <jimmy51> cef:  there's a link on there to patches and fixed versions or whatever.  i don't know what any of it means, so i'm trying to learn how to apply the guy's fixes
[16:09] <jimmy51> cef:  so i don't have to boot to XP to get work done (need to vpn and rdp into work)
[16:11] <cef> ok.. that patch is a source code fix
[16:13] <jimmy51> cef:  should i just give up and stick with XP?
[16:13] <cef> jimmy51: You might be better off downloading zanfur's precompiled package: http://www.zanfur.com/knetworkmanager/network-manager-kde_0.2ubuntu1-0ubuntu5~pptp_i386.deb
[16:14] <jimmy51> cef:  that sounds better.  it's a deb, so i can use package installer, right?
[16:14] <mefisto__> that's much easier
[16:14] <cef> download that, and then run "sudo dpkg -i network-manager-kde_0.2ubuntu1-0ubuntu5~pptp_i386.deb" or yeah, use the package installer
[16:15] <cef> but remember: you're using someone elses packages, so if it breaks you're sort of on your own. chances are, it'll work fine.
[16:15] <cef> note: there is only a .i386 package that I can see, so if you're using x86-64 packages/install, you won't be able to use that
[16:16] <jimmy51> cef:  ok.  i figured i could trust these guys, since the package manager is on the post
[16:16] <mefisto__> cef: is that the right link? or is it the knetworkmanger one?
[16:17] <cef> jimmy51: most likely trust it, and it's signed by the guy.. and afaik robin (zanfur) knows what he's doing.
[16:17] <cef> jimmy51: I don't forsee a problem, but better you know than me not warning you at least
[16:18] <cef> ahh, you might need http://www.zanfur.com/knetworkmanager/knetworkmanager_0.2ubuntu1-0ubuntu5~pptp_all.deb as well
[16:18] <jimmy51> cef:  ok, thanks for the warning.
[16:19] <cef> jimmy51: I prefer to give people all the info so they're well informed.  How do i upgrade them? I installed the flashplugin-nonfree (which was supposed to install the thing), but it didn't, and i don't even know where it put it.
[16:28] <subopt> rather, How do i upgrade flash?
[16:28] <nuxil> your brwser is ?
[16:28] <nuxil> konqueror or firefox
[16:28] <nuxil> =
[16:28] <jimmy51> thanks for the help guys, i'm going to reboot
[16:29] <subopt> nuxil: those, plus galeon and epiphany
[16:29] <jimmy51> and my wife's mad because i won't pick between thurs and fri to take the pup to the vet so i've gotta go anyway
[16:29] <Tm_T> subopt: topic?
[16:29] <jimmy51> :)
[16:29] <Tm_T> !flash
[16:29] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:29] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:29] <jel> subopt: same way you upgrade anything else: install the lastest package using adept (or synaptic or aptitude)
[16:29] <subopt> ubotu: thanks
[16:29] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:31] <`Zmax`> nuxil, !
[16:31] <`Zmax`> is the sgh-830 a smartphone?
[16:31] <`Zmax`> I am wondering to use it for internet connection
[16:32] <nuxil> `Zmax`, its a verry dumb phone :p
[16:32] <`Zmax`> under windows there is "active sync"
[16:32] <`Zmax`> lol
[16:32] <`Zmax`> I haven't any ACM device under /dev
[16:32] <Odd-rationale> Which should I install? guarddog or kmyfirewall? I'm looking for something similar to firestarter which I can just install, run a wizard and pretty much forget about it.
[16:32] <nuxil> `Zmax`, you can network bluethoot or wlan of that phone supports it
[16:33] <nuxil> *of/if
[16:33] <`Zmax`> nuxil, network bluetooth?
[16:33] <nuxil> yes
[16:33] <nuxil> it might be a pain in the ass to set up tho
[16:34] <`Zmax`> nuxil, yes I think so :D
[16:34] <`Zmax`> but
[16:36] <nuxil> `Zmax`, if its supports Wlan.. thers no problem connecting it to internett,,, but if it doesnt.. bluetooth networking on phones dosent always work..
[16:36] <nuxil> `Zmax` since its more ment for pc to pc bluetoothing
[16:37] <`Zmax`> it supports wlan
[16:37] <`Zmax`> but I tried
[16:37] <`Zmax`> to configure an access point to it
[16:37] <`Zmax`> it seems that the ap is always "red"
[16:38] <`Zmax`> doing a scan I can see it
[16:38] <`Zmax`> but I cannot connect to it
[16:38] <nuxil> do you see your network on a scan?
[16:38] <`Zmax`> dhclient does not work
[16:38] <`Zmax`> yes nuxil
[16:39] <nuxil> `Zmax`, check your router settings.
[16:39] <`Zmax`> I haven't a router
[16:39] <nuxil> oh.
[16:40] <nuxil> only wireless card in pc ? then you need to look up ad hook
[16:44] <azlon> i'm currently downloading/installing kubuntu-desktop package. if i have a kubuntu cd, can i install the package from that?
[16:45] <Sbucatone> azlon: of course yes
[16:45] <azlon> i just have to add it to the sources?
[16:46] <nuxil> `Zmax`, whats your wifi card ? eth1 ?
[16:46] <`Zmax`> nuxil, no, wlan0
[16:46] <azlon> i have it in ISO format on my harddrive, do i need to burn it to a CD first?
[16:46] <nuxil> `if you dont know.. type: iwconfig
[16:50] <azlon> Sbucatone: can i load it from an ISO or do i have to burn it to a CD first?
[16:50] <mefisto__> azlon: you can mount the iso
[16:50] <azlon> mefisto__: how do i do that? sorry... 2nd day on linux
[16:51] <mefisto__> mount -o loop -t iso9660 diskimage.iso /mountpoint
[16:51] <nuxil> iwconfig wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc essid MYNET channel 6 ; ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> ;  route add default netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> ; route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>  netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlan0
[16:51] <nuxil> @ `Zmax`
[16:51] <mefisto__> create the directory you will mount it to first
[16:51] <`Zmax`> y
[16:51] <azlon> awesome, thanks
[16:52] <nuxil> `Zmax`, you need to set gw right on phone how
[16:52] <nuxil> *how/npw
[16:52] <nuxil> *now
[16:52] <nuxil> erm
[16:52] <nuxil> and make it ip <IP_ADDRESS> example
[16:52] <oscar> Howd do I get kde 4?
[16:53] <nuxil> !kde4
[16:53] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:53] <oscar> yes, I know, they say kubuntu will download updates. But kubuntu tried and kubuntu failed and kubuntu wont try again
[16:54] <oscar> can I install it from the live cd?
[16:54] <azlon> mefisto__: ok, i have the kubuntu iso mounted, how can i use this to install the kubuntu-dekstop package?
[16:54] <nuxil> oscar, dude.. go to a kde4 channel
[16:54] <oscar> k sry
[16:57] <azlon> i have the KDE ISO mounted, how can i use this to install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[16:57] <nuxil> `Zmax`, do you understand?
[16:58] <maduser> does kde4 work yet?
[16:59] <mefisto__> azlon: I'm not exactly sure, but it's something like "deb /directory-mounted-iso gutsy main restricted" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[16:59] <nuxil> maddler, how about reading the topic
 nuxil,
 nuxil, apparently there isn't the way to set the gw
[17:00] <nuxil> you mean on the phone
[17:00] <maduser> yeah you can download it, but its really buggy
[17:00] <nuxil> hmm
[17:00] <maduser> when I tried it
[17:01] <nuxil> `Zmax`_, but can you set a static ip on the phone ?
[17:01] <`Zmax`_> apparently no
[17:02] <nuxil> `try setting up a dhcp server on wlan0..the phone might ask for a dhcp offer.
[17:02] <maddler> nuxil: I would if I needed ;)
[17:03] <nuxil> maddler, it was for `Zmax`_  :p
[17:03] <`Zmax`_> eheh
[17:05] <maddler> :)
[17:05] <nuxil> `Zmax`_, do you know how tcpdump works? try staring tcpdump on wlan0 and see if the phone asks for a dhcp offer.
[17:05] <`Zmax`_> uhm
[17:05] <`Zmax`_> I don't know
[17:05] <`Zmax`_> I'll try :D
[17:13] <`Zmax`_> nuxil,
[17:13] <`Zmax`_> nothing :|
[17:13] <dhq> why are medibuntu packages dont work
[17:13] <`Zmax`_> :°°
[17:14] <nuxil> `Zmax`_, tcpdump -i wlan0 ; then on phone try to connect. you see some output in concole
[17:15] <nuxil> sudo
[17:16] <Strangelet> wasn't there an unnofficial fix for the flash plugin error in Konqueror
[17:16] <Strangelet> ?
[17:17] <jel> Strangelet: which error?
[17:17] <Strangelet> jel: Loading up a page with flash causes Konqeuror to cash
[17:18] <nuxil> `Zmax`_, you might need to set wlan0 in promiscuous mode
[17:19] <`Zmax`_> how?
[17:19] <nuxil> turn it down.
[17:19] <nuxil> ifconfig wlan0 down
[17:22] <JoshOvki> hey
[17:23] <azlon> how can i install kubuntu-desktop from the cd instead of downloading it?
[17:27] <g2g591> azlon: if the packages on the cd are upto date and the cd is in your sources, apt will prefer the cd
[17:27] <nuxil> azlon, if you installed ubuntu i think you need to dl it.
[17:29] <g2g591> azlon: if you have a kubuntu cd with upto date packages and added it to your sources , useing apt-cdrom, synaptic, or adept, and the packages on it are up to date, apt will use the cd
[17:29] <azlon> nuxil: i removed all of the gnome stuff and want to install KDE from a cd i downloaded yesterday
[17:30] <azlon> i just commented out everything except the CD... we will see how this works
[17:30] <stdin> azlon: only works with the alternate cd, not the desktop cd
[17:30] <azlon> what???
[17:30] <azlon> crap!
[17:31] <azlon> ugh
[17:31] <azlon> guess i will just download it
[17:31] <g2g591> azlon: no, stdin is wrong
[17:31] <azlon> erm...
[17:32] <azlon> ill try it and see what happens
[17:32] <g2g591> azlon: the packages are on the reguler cd too, otherwise what would the cd install from?
[17:32] <bob__> anyone know why my gdeskletts wont work it tries to come up then just dies
[17:32] <stdin> g2g591: try it, find out
[17:33] <azlon> g2g591: i commented out all the http sites, refreshed, searched for kubuntu-desktop and didnt find it...
[17:33] <azlon> crappers
[17:33]  * stdin is not wrong then
[17:33] <g2g591> stdin: im on a hardy install, i dont want to downgrade
[17:33] <azlon> right
[17:33] <bob__> i am using ubunt 7.10
[17:33] <g2g591> bob_: #ubuntu
[17:34] <bob__> oops
[17:34] <g2g591> bob_: different set of apps,
[17:34] <stdin> g2g591: there is an alternate cd for hardy too, but it's probably quicker to install kubuntu-desktop over the internet than downloading the CD (if  your system has internet that is)
[17:34] <g2g591> stdin: i know
[17:35] <bob__> what is the dif. kubuntu and ubuntu?
[17:35] <g2g591> stdin: there are some packages on the cd, i notice build-essential for one, and glibc,
[17:35] <jpatrick> bob__: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu kde
[17:35] <g2g591> bob_: different de
[17:35] <cristina> hi, i have 2 sound cards, after installimg ubuntu the 2'nd card worked, aftter installing the updates the firs card works, how can i set the card that is running?
[17:36] <holo> where can I change the size of the icons in konqueror? they are so huge!
[17:36] <g2g591> bob_: like, the widget program for kubuntu, would be preferably superkarumba
[17:36] <stdin> g2g591: yes, there is build-essential and some drivers, that's it
[17:36] <azlon> if i had a dollar...
[17:37] <bob__> but anything kubuntu i can run on ubuntu
[17:37] <g2g591> bob_: yep, and vice versa
[17:37] <g2g591> bob_: you can also install kubuntu from ubuntu
[17:37] <bob__> so whats the dif?
[17:37] <g2g591> bob_: different preinstalled stuff
[17:37] <bob__> o ok
[17:38] <bob__> i am a noob
[17:38] <g2g591> bob_: we have a start menu,-like thing and stuff, see kde.org for some screenshots
[17:39] <bob__> o so it is more like windows?
[17:39] <jckl> i have both gnome and kde installed
[17:39] <JoshOvki> same here
[17:39] <jckl> you can choose what one you want to load at login
[17:39] <g2g591> bob_: sorta, but none of the stability things, if you want to see screenshots, kde.org has many
[17:39] <jckl> also i think using a command
[17:39] <NeoOokami> bob__: The default look has a bit more in common with Windows. But it's over all just a different way of doing things.
[17:40] <gma> hello
[17:41] <bob__> ya i dont think i like it i looked
[17:43] <bob__> i have a dell inspiron 1501 and ubuntu runs great but the visual effects dont work
[17:43] <mefisto__> cristina: to set the default sound card, "asoundconf list" will list the soundcards you have, "asoundconf set-default-card THEONEYOUWANT" will set the default
[17:45] <nuxil> hmm.. why does ntop show sites i am not connected to ?
[17:45] <p> hello...i'm having some problems playing my .mp3s...can anyone help?
[17:45] <nuxil> netstat -a -e | grep tcp | grep -v tcp6 doesnt show em.
[17:45] <cristina> mefisto__ thx
[17:46] <g2g591> p: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:47] <nuxil> strange
[17:47] <makers_mark> i need a new battery for my mbp :(
[17:47] <makers_mark> i've had it for almost a year.
[17:48] <makers_mark> and now it just jumped from 34% to 19%
[17:48] <dragoness> good evening everybody
[17:48] <makers_mark> hey.
[17:49] <JoshOvki> what package does wlanconfig install with?
[17:50] <g2g591> Josh: run which wlanconfig then run dpkg-query -S (whatever which wlanconfig told you)
[17:52] <p> g2g591: which application should I use for playback, I've tryede Amarok, Beep, Exaile, XMMS etc, but they all seem to chrash whenever I try playing an mp3
[17:52] <g2g591> p: try amarok first
[17:52] <jpatrick> !mp3 | p
[17:52] <ubotu> p: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:53] <JoshOvki> thanks g2g591
[17:53] <JoshOvki> i am having a problem with wlanconfig   i get this error      /usr/local/bin/wlanconfig: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[17:55] <p> g2g591: Amarok starts loading, and then just shuts down?
[17:55] <dragoness> see ya all
[17:55] <g2g591> p: that is very very wrong
[17:56] <nuxil> JoshOvki, use iwconfig instead
[17:56] <g2g591> p: did you just click on the icon to load it or what?
[17:56] <g2g591> p: try just opening amarok by itself
[17:56] <p> g2g591: yes
[17:57] <p> g2g591: I did
[17:57] <JoshOvki> nuxil how do you use iwconfig to set something into monitor mode?
[17:57] <g2g591> p: ok, you have deep issues, if amarok crashes opening by itself
[17:57] <g2g591> p: try reinstalling it
[17:57] <nuxil> JoshOvki, to set in monitor mode. turn the iface down and use tcpdump or a sniffer tool.
[17:59] <nuxil> JoshOvki, example.. ifconfig wlan0 down ; tcpdump -i wlan0
[17:59] <nuxil> then its monotoring without sending anything
[17:59] <JoshOvki> nuxil, thanks
[18:00] <nuxil> JoshOvki, check out "kismet"
[18:00] <p> g2g591: ok, one more question: exaile says i'm missing some Gstreamer plugins, do you think it would help installing the plugins listed here:https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html#codecs-gstreamer
[18:01] <RickKnight> Help. My kubuntu desktop is restarting Xjust after the desktop finishes loading. I am able to create a new user and get to the desktop.
[18:02] <RickKnight> But my desktop will not stay up.
[18:02] <artur_> Hello folks. I have a problem that is a message appearing when I try to do somethings like, when save a .odt , when i want to attribute a icon to a file and other things that i don't remember now. The message is the following (i will translate to english cause my kubuntu is in another language) I was not possible to find the MIME type ; (in the next line) application/octet-stream ...and a OK button.  How could i make this message stop
[18:02] <artur_> appearing. It appears when i do many kind of thins.
[18:03] <nuxil> RickKnight, remove the .kde dir.. but that will remove all your custom setup.. but it might not be a kde issue.. check the X log for erros first
[18:03] <RickKnight> nuxil: I did remove the .kde directory. Same problem. Like I said, a new user works fine.
[18:04] <nuxil> RickKnight, any errors in X org log ?
[18:04] <Greenery> RickKnight: have you updated recently?
[18:05] <nuxil> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:06] <nuxil> RickKnight, you can also remove the .Xauthority file in you home dir
[18:06] <RickKnight> nuxil:I have a failed to initialize GLX
[18:06] <nuxil> that should not cause the X to shut down
[18:07] <Greenery> RickKnight: try updating first, there was an issue with the last update for xserver-xorg-core
[18:07] <RickKnight> nuxil:I didn't think GLX would.
[18:08] <RickKnight> nuxil: In Xorg.0.log.old I have a Fatal error  sig 11 at the bottom.
[18:08] <nuxil> RickKnight, do as Greenery says, apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[18:10] <RickKnight> OK, I'll try the update. Looks like I need to reboot now. Locked up.
[18:10] <nuxil> RickKnight, if that fails.. try a older xorg server,, you will most likely find it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you didnt clean your cache
[18:10] <nuxil> erm
[18:10] <nuxil> to late
[18:11] <RickKnight> OK. But if the problem is Xorg, why am I able to create a new user in console and then use the new user without any problems?
[18:12] <artur_> Message appearing: It was not possible to find the MIME type ; (in the next line) application/octet-stream ...and a OK button.  How could i make this message stop appearing?
[18:13] <Greenery> RickKnight: did you have any program on autostart?
[18:14] <sperlo> hello all, having a bit of a problem with connecting my phone. ask here? or someplace else?
[18:14] <RickKnight> Greenery: Nothing in autostart, that I remember, but I'll check.  That's when it started.
[18:14] <nuxil> RickKnight,  ls .kde/Autostart/ -la
[18:15] <nuxil> RickKnight, if you removed your .kde then there should not be any autostart of any app
[18:16] <Greenery> RickKnight: the last update for xerver-xorg-core breaks java apps, so OO.org might caused it
[18:16] <nuxil> RickKnight, did you try apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[18:16] <Greenery> RickKnight: upgrade your kubuntu and try to use your old user again, see if it loads this time
[18:16] <stevec_> join #ubuntu
[18:17] <nuxil> RickKnight, if that fails.. try a older xorg server,, you will most likely find it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you didnt clean your cache
[18:17] <uno> buenas
[18:17] <uno> soy nuevo en este cuento
[18:17] <RickKnight> OK nuxil, I'll try the upgrade.
[18:17] <uno> alguna dama que me puede guiar??
[18:17] <jpatrick> !es | uno
[18:17] <ubotu> uno: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:18] <uno> aqui nadie habla español??
[18:18] <hi__> Hi. (using kde3.5.8). I have working nvidia drivers with good modlines in the xorg.conf. i can set the resolution/refreshrate i want but only with the nvidia-settings tool. the KDE config panel to set it don't show me the good resolutions i setted in the xorg.conf. here is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/864170 .  how can the kde config panel use the same resolutions as the nvidia tool? thanks!
[18:19] <x_link> Hi
[18:20] <x_link> I can't find on www.kubuntu.org where to download Kubuntu-Alernate
[18:20] <organix> hi_: what nvidia card are you using
[18:21] <hi__> mx440 but i really don't think this is the problem
[18:21] <llutz> x_link: http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[18:21] <x_link> llutz: Thanks man.
[18:21] <llutz> you haven't searched ;)
[18:22] <RickKnight> nuxil: I did the upgrade. Same problem
[18:22] <NickPresta> if I have two different Hard Drives, Windows on the first and Kubuntu on second, where should I install GRUB? On the first, overwriting Windows' MBR?
[18:22] <llutz> NickPresta: yes, you will have win in grub-menu
[18:22] <g2g591> x_link: hold on
[18:22] <g2g591> x_link: nm
[18:23] <x_link> I jut changed to Intel, so I should get .i386.iso right?
[18:23] <RickKnight> I tried startx from the command line and after X shutdown I see Fatal server error, Caught sig 11, xinit connection to Xserver lost
[18:23] <x_link> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso that one right?
[18:23] <nuxil> RickKnight, press CTRL ALT F2 and log in.. type : /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; startx
[18:23] <organix> x_link: yes
[18:23] <g2g591> x_link: you should get i386 no matter what cpu, unless ppc (64 bit isnt very good)
[18:24] <x_link> organix: Okey.
[18:24] <x_link> g2g591: Okey.
[18:24] <x_link> Thanks guys.
[18:24] <x_link> I just tried to re-install Kubuntu with my cd but it didn't work.
[18:24] <x_link> So I hope that it will work with this CD:
[18:24] <x_link> CD.
[18:24] <NeoOokami> There aren't that many downsides to using amd64.
[18:24] <NeoOokami> And if you do a lot of video encoding, a ton of benefits. ;_;
[18:25] <x_link> NeoOokami: I don't do video encoding =)
[18:25] <x_link> NeoOokami: Are you using amd64?
[18:25] <x_link> Baah, this site is really slow today.
[18:25] <NeoOokami> x_link: Yep.
[18:25] <llutz> x_link: look for a mirror closer to you
[18:25] <NeoOokami> Used it on Gentoo, now using it in Kubuntu.
[18:25] <organix> hi_: what does 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status' tell you
[18:26] <nuxil> RickKnight, what version does Xorg -version  say?
[18:26] <x_link> llutz: I couldn't find any alternate before.
[18:26] <nicolas_> hi all!
[18:26] <organix> greetings nicolas_
[18:26] <llutz> x_link: as i said, you haven't searched: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php
[18:27] <x_link> Ahh I just found it =)
[18:27] <RickKnight> nuxil: I'm rebooting again. Trying to stop kdm froze me again.
[18:27] <x_link> llutz: ftp://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[18:27] <x_link> =)
[18:27] <nuxil> RickKnight,  thats weird
[18:28] <nuxil> maybe kdm is messing with you :p
[18:28] <llutz> x_link: wtf should i know that you're swedish? ;)
[18:28] <x_link> llutz: Alot faster now, ~1300kb/s =)
[18:28] <nicolas_> i'm new at linux and i've just a little pb... cant acces my database even after a restart, an other prog is using it... but i dont know which one and how to shut it down...
[18:28] <llutz> sure
[18:28] <x_link> llutz: I didn't say that it was your fault =)
[18:28] <blind_guardian> hello all
[18:28] <RickKnight> nuxil, yes, weird.
[18:28] <nuxil> RickKnight, but what version of Xorg ?
[18:29] <nuxil> type Xorg -version
[18:29] <maduser> does anyone here use kde4?
[18:29] <nuxil> RickKnight, have you tried to disable gui "kdm" login ?
[18:30] <nuxil> and see if the problem still remains
[18:30] <organix> maduser: yes, installed it last night
[18:30] <x_link> llutz: Thanks alto for your help. I really appreciate it alot!
[18:30] <llutz> x_link: np
[18:30] <nuxil> RickKnight, to try that,, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/kdm to fix back.. just use +x
[18:30] <x_link> llutz: I got an Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 + Intel 2.2GHz from my girlfriend 2 days ago. So my system got a bit messed up when I changed from AM2-motherboard to this =)
[18:30] <x_link> So that's why I want to re-install.
[18:30] <mia> can kopete have more than one messenger listed on it?
[18:31] <thomas123> !nl
[18:31] <jpatrick> !nickspam > thomas123
[18:31] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[18:31] <x_link> Thanks once again.
[18:31] <x_link> Bye!
[18:31] <llutz> x_link: strange, i changed from AMD 2400+ to intel E6300 on gigabyte ga965-DS3 without problems
[18:31] <x_link> llutz: Okey.
[18:31] <x_link> See you later!
[18:31] <RickKnight> nuxil, Xorg version is 7.2.0. Build date is Jan 18 2008
[18:32] <inforatix> bonjour à tous!
[18:32] <mia> can anyone see me?
[18:32] <thomas123> jpatrick: man I just booted a live cd
[18:32] <nicolas_> Another process is using the packaging system database
[18:32] <thomas123> gimme a fuckingbreak
[18:32] <inforatix> i'm french
[18:32] <jpatrick> thomas123: ah, sorry
[18:32] <nicolas_> do you know how to fix it please?
[18:32] <mia> wow
[18:33] <mia> not much help in here
[18:33] <jussi01> !fr | inforatix
[18:33] <ubotu> inforatix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:33] <jussi01> mia:  I can see you
[18:33] <thomas123> !nl
[18:33] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[18:33] <nuxil> RickKnight, no.. look for a line like xorg-server 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8
[18:33] <organix> mia: I can as well
[18:33] <g2g591> nicolas_: sudo killall apt-get , you have a backgound update in progrss, the command would stop it
[18:33] <nicolas_> mia: and me too :)
[18:33] <jussi01> mia: the answer is yes, it can
[18:33] <mia> ok....how is it done?
[18:33] <jussi01> mia: just go add anoth account
[18:33] <nicolas_> ok thxs a lot i'll try it!
[18:34] <RickKnight> nuxil; when I stop KDM and then run startx I get the same thing. Same error after X stops.
[18:34] <mia> how do i add another account?
[18:34] <mia> sorry...new to linux system
[18:34] <mia> like it so far
[18:34] <maduser> new to linux completly?
[18:34] <mia> yes
[18:34] <maduser> get ubuntu
[18:34] <maduser> its easier to use
[18:35] <maduser> for new people
[18:35] <jussi01> mia: settings - configure accounts
[18:35] <nuxil> RickKnight, ok.. did you remove the .Xauthority file
[18:35] <thomas123> mia: kdesu kuser
[18:35] <maduser> mias talking about kopote users
[18:36] <nicolas_> well "apt-get: no process killed" and my database is still locked...
[18:36] <NickPresta> !aptfix | nicolas_
[18:36] <ubotu> nicolas_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:36] <maduser> nicolas_ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:36] <mia> thanks jussi01!
[18:36] <jussi01> mia: :)
[18:36] <mia> got it!
[18:36] <nicolas_> ok thanks!
[18:37] <jussi01> mia: great!
[18:38] <nuxil> RickKnight,  dont know if this works.. but you can try dpkg "XORG-NAME" --force downgrade
[18:39] <nicolas_> works now! tanks a lot!
[18:39] <jussi01> nicolas_: :)
[18:39] <nuxil> --force-downgrade
[18:39] <mia> ok...another question
[18:39] <RickKnight> nuxil: Ye, I did remove Xauthority. I don't see anything like "xorg-server 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8" How do I find that?
[18:40] <mia> how do one download a game from a cd?
[18:40] <nuxil> in Xorg -version.
[18:40] <jussi01> mia: what sort of game?
[18:40] <mia> star wars
[18:40] <mia> its for my son
[18:40] <jussi01> mia: is it made for linux?
[18:40] <nuxil> RickKnight, ok one idea.. copy all the stuff you need from your user.. delete the user and its home dir.. then recreate the user and cp your files back
[18:40] <mia> ummmm....not sure
[18:41] <mia> don't think so
[18:41] <jussi01> mia: you will probably need to use !wine
[18:41] <mia> merlot or white?
[18:41] <mia> LOL
[18:41] <mia> sorry
[18:41] <organix> haha
[18:41] <jussi01> !wine > mia
[18:41] <nuxil> gtg
[18:42] <RickKnight> nuxil: recreating my user should work, I am able to create a new user. Was hoping to avoid that. Guess I'll try that after I eat.
[18:42] <mefisto_> RickKnight: you have my sympathy
[18:43] <mefisto_> can I mount to a dir that is not empty?
[18:44] <RickKnight> Thanks mefisto.
[18:45] <g2g591> mefisto: i dont think so
[18:46] <mefisto_> g2g591: it does work, just wondering if the files in the dir are safe
[18:46] <smeril> what is the comand for installing firefox
[18:46] <jpatrick> smeril: apt-get install firefox
[18:46] <smeril> thanks
[18:46] <mefisto_> sudo in front of that, smeril
[18:48] <sourcemaker> is there a release plan for the next kubuntu release with kde4?
[18:49] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: yes
[18:49] <sourcemaker> jpatrick: where can I find... or do you know the date?
[18:49] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/minutes/kubuntu-meeting-20071222.pdf
[18:51] <smeril> whats is the firefox install command
[18:51] <organix> smeril: sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:52] <smeril> do you know the delete comand and reinstall comand for firefox?
[18:52] <organix> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[18:52] <SlimeyPe1e> best to purge it too
[18:52] <g2g591> smeril: if you use adept, theres an option to reinstall
[18:52] <organix> true true
[18:52] <linjava> leave
[18:53] <mefisto_> sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox will completely remove it
[18:53] <mefisto_> sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox will completely reinstall it
[18:55] <sourcemaker> jpatrick: thanks
[18:55] <jckl> still having troubles with it smeril
[18:55] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: I always write the meeting minutes
[18:55] <cash-home> Hello there,please help me ? via which program I can cut video files?
[18:56] <jussi01> kdenlive cash-home
[18:56] <mefisto_> avidemux is a basic one
[18:56] <cash-home> kdenlive -it is program ?
[18:56] <jussi01> !info kdenlive
[18:56] <ubotu> kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[18:57] <cash-home> thnx guys
[19:00] <smeril> yes still troubles
[19:01] <jussi01> !away > AdmPaul
[19:02] <motty> שלום
[19:02] <smeril> last time somebody helped me it seams like something happend to a file in the system
[19:03] <jussi01> smeril: could you please repeat your issue?
[19:04] <smeril> I cant install firefox
[19:04] <sperlo> anyone using moto4lin?
[19:05] <sperlo> for some reason I can't get it to open my phone. It sees it fine, just can't open it
[19:05] <jussi01> smeril: ok, what have you done?
[19:05] <mimmo-anna> ##ubuntu-it
[19:05] <jussi01> !it | mimmo-anna
[19:06] <ubotu> mimmo-anna: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:06] <smeril> delete reinstall
[19:06] <smeril> and somebody told me to change a system file they instructed me
[19:06] <smeril> i have the icon for firefox
[19:07] <jussi01> smeril: have you installed it before?
[19:07] <jussi01> ok
[19:07] <jussi01> so what happens when you type firefox in the terminal?
[19:07] <smeril> but when i try to run it it says that the program is not installed and when i install it again it says i cant because i already have it
[19:08] <jussi01> smeril: go type firefox in terminal
[19:09] <smeril> i have already
[19:09] <smeril> tryed many times
[19:09] <smeril> it is not that
[19:10] <smeril> but there is a file i have forgot the name of and i changed som configurations and that file i was runing thruu the terminal
[19:10] <smeril> i copy and pasted from here
[19:11] <jussi01> smeril: I want to know the out put from that.
[19:11] <smeril> i dont know thats the output
[19:11] <smeril> i was instructed from here a few hours ago
[19:12] <jussi01> smeril: check if firefox is currently running
[19:12] <jussi01> smeril: ctrl + esc then look for firefox in the list
[19:14] <jussi01> smeril: if its running and not responding, it wont rerun, so kill it if its in the list
[19:14] <grufti> nabend
[19:15] <smeril> no its not running
[19:15] <Artimus> Has anyone gotten auto  mounting to work in Gutsy?  I rather liked it in Feisty, but I've never seen it work on Gutsy (my installation or a fresh installation on a friend's computer)
[19:15] <smeril> the should name should be firefox?
[19:15] <biovore> Artimus: Automounting.. you mean.. USB device auto mounting?
[19:15] <jussi01> or firefox-bin or similar
[19:16] <smeril> no its not runing
[19:16] <Artimus> biovore: USB, primarily.  I guess I haven't tried a CDRom
[19:16] <biovore> those work here..  KDE dosn't do a pop up window when you attach new media?
[19:17] <Artimus> Nope, never has in Gutsy
[19:17] <biovore> you running a custom kernel?
[19:17] <jussi01> works in gutsy here
[19:17] <das6745> smeril, check /usr/lib/firefox or /usr/local/firefox or similar
[19:17] <Artimus> biovore: Stock kernel
[19:17] <Artimus> A friend installed Gutsy (fresh) and it didn't work for him either.
[19:17] <biovore> Artimus: It should do it out of the box..
[19:18] <Artimus> I've kept my KDE profile, so I thought it was my settings originally.  What does it actually use to accomplish it (program wise)?
[19:18] <biovore> dbus I think
[19:19] <KlavKalashj> anyone know how to connect external speakers to a laptop, and make them work?
[19:19] <ChaosR> hello, I have a problem (before someone starts telling me I should explain, I'll exlpain in a moment) with filezilla for some reason it doesn't workk (goes for that one too)
[19:20] <KlavKalashj> i only get sound from internal crappy speakers
[19:20] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$ /usr/lib/firefox or /usr/local/firefox or similar
[19:20] <smeril> bash: /usr/lib/firefox: är en katalog
[19:20] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$
[19:20] <ChaosR> The program 'filezilla' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.   (Details: serial 2058 error_code 11 request_code 147 minor_code 5)
[19:20] <smeril> firefox is a catalog
[19:20] <smeril> in english
[19:21] <ChaosR> 2 days ago it just started to give that error
[19:22] <ChaosR> so does anyone know how to solve this
[19:22] <ChaosR> because filezilla is my favorite ftp program
[19:22] <das6745> smeri, if there is such catalog as firefox there should be firefox executable file
[19:22] <Tm_T> Konqueror <3
[19:23] <das6745> das6745@lhome:/usr/lib/firefox$ ls -A | egrep firefox$
[19:23] <KlavKalashj> no one can help me with speaker problem?
[19:23] <das6745> if it is, run it
[19:24] <mani213> how do i install flash so i can watch youtube videos on mozila?
[19:24] <mani213> what do i search for in adept?
[19:24] <mani213> java?
[19:24] <biovore> !flash
[19:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:25] <das6745> KlavKalashj, what exactly you want to do
[19:25] <made_> hi
[19:26] <user_> help! every time i run firefox, i get an error "NS_ERROR_FAILURE".  I click OK, and then everything works fine.  What gives?
[19:26] <KlavKalashj> das6745: I want to connect my good speakers to my laptop, but i cant get them work. just the internals.
[19:27] <KlavKalashj> is there any setting that will switch speakers?
[19:28] <das6745> guess yes, check speacker connector
[19:28] <user_> klavkalashj: are you using an external sound card, or just running from 'line out'?
[19:29] <KlavKalashj> just running from line out. green hole=)
[19:29] <mani213> whats a website to get linux wallpaper and skins?
[19:29] <user_> klavkalashj: if you plug headphones into that jack, do they work?
[19:29] <user_> mani213: www.kde-look.org
[19:30] <mani213> thanks alot
[19:30] <user_> if you run kde
[19:30] <user_> if not, www.gnome-look.org
[19:30] <mani213> any good mp3 players like winamp for linux?
[19:30] <Tm_T> Amarok <3
[19:30] <user_> i think its call mmx
[19:30] <KlavKalashj> nope, they dont
[19:31] <user_> klavkalashj: when you open kmix, is the line out or microphone output listed?
[19:31] <Artimus> Well, I've done a bit of reading on the no-automounting stuff.  pmount-hal /dev/sdb1 (that is the address, sda is a harddrive) spits out this: Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[19:31] <mani213> kk amarok i tried installin new skin it didnt work:S
[19:31] <Tm_T> skin?
[19:31] <user_> !mmx
[19:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:31] <KlavKalashj> but
[19:31] <mani213> or liek themes
[19:31] <mani213> for the player
[19:31] <Tm_T> mani213: noatun ?
[19:32] <mani213> ye
[19:32] <KlavKalashj> User_: no, just one channel, master. Maybe I need drivers for the soundcard, but I have a laptop and acer only got windows drivers....
[19:32] <user_> klavkalashj: i also have an acer... hang on- you probably need intel hda settings
[19:33] <parkin> anyone know a pdf reader that can read the pdfs with inverted colors?
[19:34] <user_> KlavKalashj:  see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[19:34] <KlavKalashj> user_: ah! how do I get?
[19:34] <KlavKalashj> user_: What model do you have?
[19:35] <user_> doesn't matter.
[19:35] <user_> Use this:
[19:35] <user_> added options line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:
[19:35] <user_>  options snd-hda-intel model=acer
[19:36] <crimsun> have you verified that that's the correct model by inspecting his SSID?
[19:36] <user_> in /etc/modprob.d/alsa-base, add that line "options snd-hda-intel model=acer".  Then you should be good to go.  You have to restart X or reboot for it to take effect
[19:39] <KlavKalashj> user_: ok, thank you, will try reboot. brb
[19:43] <user_> klavkalashj: so?
[19:43] <KlavKalashj> hello agaion
[19:43] <KlavKalashj> user_: no difference =/
[19:43] <KlavKalashj> must have done something wrong, NOTHING happened=)
[19:43] <user_> hmm.... you did exactly what was written?
[19:43] <KlavKalashj> I think so...
[19:44] <user_> KlavKalashj: ok, follow me
[19:44] <user_> KlavKalashj: open terminal.
[19:44] <KlavKalashj> y
[19:44] <KlavKalashj> done=)
[19:44] <user_> KlavKalashj: type: sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[19:45] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: please pastebin the output from `lspci -nv`
[19:46] <KlavKalashj> crimsun: everything?:P
[19:46] <user_> crimsun: almost all acer laptops use the HD intel sound - but i am making an assumption
[19:46] <Richard_Balls> I just got a version upgrade notice for 7.10
[19:46] <Richard_Balls> I'm on 7.10
[19:46] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: yes, everything.
[19:47] <user_> richard_balls: just do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".  It should stop bothering you then
[19:47] <crimsun> user_: you need the SSID info to be able to suggest a model.  There are many variants for Acer hardware.
[19:47] <Jeroi> hello, is there good ssa/ass direct subber for media player in linux?
[19:48] <user_> crimsun: i know.  like i said, almost all acer laptops use this hardware.  i shouldn't assume, though ;)
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> user_: eh... whats the problem with this acer? (got a acer here)
[19:48] <KlavKalashj> oh, maybe pasted to much.
[19:48] <KlavKalashj> crimsun: did u get the paste?
[19:48] <user_> hey mike- klavkalashj is trying to get microphone and line-out working
[19:49] <user_> on acer lappy
[19:49] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: you need to tell me the url that you used.
[19:49] <KlavKalashj> if it helps: Acer travelmate 5520G
[19:49] <crimsun> no, that doesn't help.
[19:49] <crimsun> I need the url of the pastebin that you used.
[19:49] <KlavKalashj> sry crimsun, dont know how to use pastebin
[19:50] <crimsun> !pastebin |KlavKalashj
[19:50] <ubotu> KlavKalashj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:50] <Jeroi> does win truetype fonts be used with linux?
[19:50] <Jeroi> or kubuntu
[19:50] <Jeroi> ?
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: yeah, I think they can
[19:50] <user_> klavkalashj: here is tutorial for your model to get sound working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3589861
[19:50] <Jeroi> I think I miss fonts that ass script has used
[19:50] <Jeroi> !fonts
[19:50] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[19:50] <KlavKalashj> !pastebin
[19:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:50] <KlavKalashj> hm
[19:50] <KlavKalashj> sry:P
[19:50] <user_> jeroi: yes - but you may have to copy the .ttf file from windows to linux
[19:51] <Jeroi> where are fonts kept in linux?
[19:52] <KlavKalashj> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52666/
[19:53] <user_> jeroi: usr/share/fonts (should be there)
[19:53] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: looking now.
[19:53] <KlavKalashj> user_: taking a look at that tutorial now, thank you for url=)
[19:53] <KlavKalashj> crimsun: nice=)
[19:54] <mefisto_> Jeroi: fonts can also be in .fonts/ in your home dir, so they can be installed per user, or systemwide
[19:54] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: did you try model=3stack, too?
[19:55] <user_> mefisto | jeroi: this is correct, but i think they are in usr/share by default, right?
[19:55] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: we likely need to update the code for your quirk, since it's not in the source code.
[19:55] <Jeroi> how to make sumbolic link with kde3?
[19:55] <KlavKalashj> crimsun: I dont really understand what you are talking abaout =/
[19:55] <Jeroi> I want fonts folder to desktop
[19:56] <Jeroi> oh drag and drop
[19:56] <Jeroi> nice
[19:56] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: you know how you placed model=acer in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?  Replace "acer" with "3stack", and reboot.
[19:57] <dorkface> Hi all, I was wondering how to roll back an installed program, like wine.  would there be an apt-get command for it?
[19:57] <KlavKalashj> crimsun: kk
[19:57] <user_> crimsun: good detective work ;)
[19:57] <user_> dorkface: to reinstall an older version?
[19:57] <dorkface> user_: yeah
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> dorkface: yeah... you can apt-get install a specific version if you know what version it was
[19:58] <user_> dorkface: afaik, you'd have to remove all files of the new version, and compile the older version, as the repos only keep the updated version.  Anyone else?
[19:58] <Jeroi> hmm how can I copy fonts from windows folder to fonts as I dont have privlidges to save into kubuntu font folder
[19:58] <user_> nosrednaekim: yeah, thats what i meant ;)
[19:58] <dorkface> nosrednaekim: cool, I'll check that out
[19:59] <user_> jeroi: run "sudo konqueror"
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: sudo
[19:59] <user_> jeroi: then you will have write permissions
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> dorkface: synaptic has the ability to choose versions
[19:59] <user_> nosrednaekim: it does?!?
[19:59] <dorkface> I'm using kde :)
[19:59] <crimsun> KlavKalashj: I need to scoot now to catch the train, but leave me a private query if it still doesn't work; I'll need to catch up with you to debug it further.
[19:59] <dorkface> does adept manager have that option?
[19:59] <user_> dorkface: install synaptic
[20:00] <dorkface> user_: can do :)
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> user_: yeah
[20:00] <user_> nosrednaekim: shoot, i'm switching right now, then.   ATM
[20:01] <user_> nosrednaekim: well, i'll keep both, but use synaptic for now.  thanks for the info.  i thought they were essentially the same, just built with different toolkits
[20:03] <dorkface> user_: can do :)
[20:03] <dorkface> oops
[20:03] <vijay_> Packgae installer  --Error: Dependency is not satisfiable -- why this?
[20:03] <user_> nosrednaekim: so can you force-install an older version through synaptic?
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> user_: I think so
[20:04] <user_> vijay: try running "sudo apt-get -f install", and if that doesn't work, you can install the depency manually, either by compiling or finding a .deb package
[20:07] <persept> if I know correctly, KDE 4 will be in Hardy?
[20:07] <jpatrick> persept: it already is
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> persept: a version of hardy. yes
[20:08] <jpatrick> persept: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/minutes/kubuntu-meeting-20071222.pdf
[20:08] <persept> jpatrick: i meant will be, because it hasn't had its final release
[20:08] <jpatrick> persept: it has
[20:08] <persept> then why isn't it on the download page?
[20:09] <jpatrick> persept: read the link, seeds are not yet ready
[20:09] <jpatrick> !kde4 > persept
[20:09] <persept> got it, thanks
[20:09] <cash-home> How I can cut mp4 video ?
[20:10] <cash-home> ?mp4
[20:10] <cash-home> !mp4
[20:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:10] <lokpest> hi, I cant use a microphone
[20:10] <Flare183> !microphone | lokpest
[20:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:10] <user_> !cinelerra | cash-home
[20:10] <ubotu> cash-home: Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[20:10] <Flare183> !mic | lokpest
[20:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:10] <Flare183> what the mess
[20:10] <cash-home> thnx
[20:11] <lokpest> Flare183: ??
[20:11] <Flare183> lokpest: hold up
[20:11] <user_> or: !avidemux | cash-home
[20:12] <cash-home> thnx a Lott
[20:12] <user_> cash-home - yeah, i messed up, but avidemux is good too :)
[20:13] <Flare183> beats me dude i can't find the factoid umm try krec
[20:13] <jussi01> cash-home: kdenlive should do it fine, you just need all the restricted extras installed iirc
[20:13] <Flare183> !info krec
[20:13] <ubotu> krec (source: kdemultimedia): sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 354 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[20:13] <lokpest> Flare183: cant record in krec
[20:13] <cash-home> I l try all and say result )
[20:13] <Flare183> yeah you can
[20:13] <jussi01> lokpest: have you had a look in kmix to see it is unmuted etc?
[20:13] <jussi01> !restricted | cash-home
[20:14] <ubotu> cash-home: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:14] <lokpest> Flare183: alsamixer doesnt have a bar for mic, and pressing M does nothingb
[20:14] <Flare183> !mic
[20:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:14] <user_> lokpest: have you run "alsamixer" in terminal and see whats there?
[20:15] <lokpest> user_: http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2tp6.png
[20:15] <lokpest> pressing M wont do anything
[20:16] <persept> jpatrick: if i read right, the LTS has kde 3
[20:16] <user_> lokpest: hmm... did it ever work before?
[20:16] <lokpest> user_: no
[20:16] <user_> lokpest: what kind of computer are you using?
[20:16] <lokpest> user_: dell inspiron 6400 laptop
[20:16] <user_> lokpest: ok, hang on.
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> persept: there will be no LTS
[20:17] <jpatrick> persept: no
[20:17] <jpatrick> persept: what nosrednaekim said
[20:17] <persept> jpatrick: then I guess the title of this is wrong? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/daily-live/current/
[20:17] <squid0> hi! ctrl + alt + del doesn't work for me :( any idea why?
[20:17] <squid0> i mean, backspace
[20:18] <squid0> ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:18] <persept> it calles it kubuntu 8.04 LTS
[20:18] <jpatrick> persept: yes, I shall inform someone on that asap
[20:18] <squid0> also, when I do ctrl+alt+f1, it takes me to workspace 1 instead of terminal 1
[20:19] <user_> lokpest: does your lappy have a built-in microphone?
[20:20] <lokpest> user_: not sure what u mean? its a Intel motherboard with a sigmatel stac soundchip
[20:20] <lokpest> and im trying with a headset
[20:20] <lokpest> so I guess no
[20:20] <user_> lokpest: so you're just plugging a mic into the jack?
[20:20] <user_> right?
[20:21] <lokpest> yes a headset with to plugs
[20:21] <jpatrick> persept: thank you very much
[20:21] <user_> lokpest: ok, lemme see,...
[20:23] <user_> lokpest: hmmm.. others with the same lappy say that it is supported.  If you plug in your mic, right click the sound icon, and click "show mixer window", what do you see?
[20:24] <user_> lokpest: is there a tab for "input"?
[20:24] <lokpest> user_: three channels
[20:24] <user_> lokpest: ok, but is there a tab for "input"?
[20:25] <lokpest> yep
[20:25] <user_> lokpest: click on that, and is there a listing for mic?
[20:25] <user_> make sure the levels are turned on (not muted), and turn them up
[20:25] <lokpest> capture, capture mux, digital
[20:26] <user_> lokpest: nothing about microphones?
[20:26] <lokpest> user_: nope
[20:26] <lokpest> but a have a tab for "coverter"
[20:27] <lokpest> (not sure about the english term as I dont use english langue)
[20:27] <user_> lokpest: "switches" maybe?
[20:28] <user_> lokpest: everyone else with your computer seems to be OK, just try to make sure nothing is muted, and sound levels (like "capture") are turned up.
[20:29] <lokpest> user_: ok, so it should work out-of the-box
[20:29] <user_> lokpest: yes, that is what everyone has said
[20:29] <KlavKalashj> lokpest är en riktigt bra skiva måste jag säga=)
[20:29] <user_> lokpest: some people have had problems _recording_, but not using the mic
[20:31] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:31] <senorpedro> is it possible to set the panel in kde4 on autohide??
[20:31] <Lynoure> lokpest: if you use kmixer for the settings, do note that the green light is for whether it plays in your speakers, and red light is whether stuff can be recorded from that source
[20:31] <senorpedro> and maybe place it on the top of the desktop?
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> senorpedro: neither is possible
[20:32] <senorpedro> nosrednaekim: why not?? that sucks, in kde3 its possible
[20:32] <Dr_willis> senorpedro,  its a work in progress
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> senorpedro: KDE 4.0.0 is not "finished" it is more of a devolopment release for people who want to create wdigets and apps
[20:33] <senorpedro> man without this particular feature the desktop is unusable for me....i mean even the xfce panel supports autohiding
[20:33] <vijay_> how to install firefox in kubuntu?
[20:33] <Dr_willis> senorpedro,  then dont use kde4.
[20:33] <senorpedro> vijay_: aptitude install firefox
[20:34] <KlavKalashj> apt-get install firefox?
[20:34] <Dr_willis> senorpedro,  The panel and other parts are still being developed and features added.
[20:34] <respati> anyone in here ever use linux media cent edition
[20:34] <Dr_willis> senorpedro,  or run the kde3 panel.
[20:34] <senorpedro> hm ok
[20:34] <KlavKalashj> Dr_willis: Isnt kde4 officially released as a non-beta version now?
[20:35] <Waschmittel> vijay_: you may also want to install mozilla-firefox-locale-(yourlanguage)
[20:35] <lokpest> Lynoure, user_: http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3ku3.png
[20:35] <user_> KlavKalashj: i found it is always better to use "aptitude" rather than "apt-get"
[20:35] <hydrogen> I disagree
[20:35] <hydrogen> aptitude trys to outthink you
[20:35] <KlavKalashj> user_: what is difference?
[20:35] <hydrogen> and its not a good thing
[20:35] <respati> im on kubuntu 0704 kind of a noob to kubuntu and linux. i cant find the program to download more programs like xchat
[20:35] <Dr_willis> KlavKalashj,  it is what its is.. Its still very much a work in progress
[20:36] <user_> aptitude will do more in the way of depencencies and broken packages than apt-get
[20:36] <respati> where is adept/
[20:36] <KlavKalashj> Dr_willis: kk
[20:36] <respati> where is adept?
[20:37] <senorpedro> respati: alt-f2 and then type adept_manager
[20:37] <senorpedro> or alt-space if you want to use the cool katapult ;)
[20:38] <vijay_> : Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[20:38] <vijay_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:38] <senorpedro> vijay_: try sudo aptitude install firefox
[20:38] <user_> vijay: you probably have an instance of adept running already.  kill it with ksysguard
[20:38] <stdin> vijay_: prefix the command with sudo
[20:39] <vijay_> i did
[20:39] <vijay_> : Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[20:39] <vijay_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:39] <Respatix> senorpedro: Could not run the specified command.
[20:39] <jpatrick> @paste | vijay_
[20:39] <jpatrick> !paste | vijay_
[20:39] <ubotu> vijay_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:39] <senorpedro> Respati: look under k-menu->system->adept manager
[20:39] <user_> jpatrick: :)
[20:40] <Respatix> i used to use the gui and search programs thru the gui.  i cant find it in the menus though
[20:40] <KlavKalashj> guys, wich is best msn-substitute for linux?
[20:40] <senorpedro> or type in the terminal / Konsole : sudo adept_manager
[20:40] <user_> KlavKalashj: amsn is good
[20:40] <user_> !amsn | KlavKalashj
[20:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:41] <jpatrick> !kdesudo | senorpedro
[20:41] <ubotu> senorpedro: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[20:41] <user_> KlavKalashj:  http://www.amsn-project.net/
[20:41] <lokpest> user_: well, its seems I got it working
[20:41] <Lynoure> lokpest: hmm, weird. usually there is a green light just under the icons
[20:42] <user_> lokpest: what did you do?
[20:42] <user_> lokpest: i was sure it would work, but what settings did you change?
[20:42] <lokpest> Lynoure: cant get a green light or record
[20:43] <lokpest> user_: not sure, but i think the capture red light wasnt acivated
[20:43] <Lynoure> lokpest: I'll need to exit this hot noisy machine room now, (un)fortunately, but the red lights all look like they are on.
[20:43] <lokpest> user_: anyway, thanks
[20:44] <user_> lokpest: i didn't really do anything, but i'm glad its working now :)
[20:44] <Lynoure> lokpest: ah, got it working. Great :)
[20:44] <user_> gah! how do i configure Konversation to open links in firefox?  this is killing me!
[20:44] <lokpest> user_: nost problems seems to disapear when you ask somebody else ;)
[20:44] <lokpest> s/nost/most
[20:45] <user_> lokpest: i've found that to be true, too! :)
[20:45] <sasha_> how can i
[20:45] <sasha_> how can I use wget with pages made in php?
[20:46] <das6745> user_, set default in kde settings
[20:46] <jpatrick> sasha_: you can't
[20:46] <Darkrift411> Hello again
[20:46] <user_> das6745: in Kcontrol?
[20:47] <sasha_> is there another way to solve this problem?any tool to download from this kind of sites
[20:47] <jel> sasha_: do to what?  If you mean to get the php source code then, no, you can't.
[20:47] <Darkrift411> I was in here yesterday because my wife did something that made my wifi stop working. I thought buying a pcmcia wifi card would fix it, but apparently it didnt work. anyone know why neither wifi cards (build on and pcmcia) arent even being detected?
[20:47] <respati> senorpedro, adept manager is not in the menu.  sorry i just figured out it because i have installed kubuntu thru the linuxmce dvd and that is disabled to avoid automatic updates that would mess something up
[20:48] <jel> sasha_: you can download the original source via FTP or some other way that you have access to the actual files on the server.
[20:48] <Dragnslcr> sasha_- PHP just outputs normal HTML. wget will fetch the HTML just fine
[20:48] <jel> sasha_: IF you've been given such access
[20:48] <user_> darkrift411: did you try booting in recovery mode?  it seems to fix many networking problems
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift411: what is "sudo lshw" saying?
[20:48] <Respatix> senorpedro: i'll just use terminal sudo apt-get install xchat
[20:49] <val0> Darkrift411 are you using a laptop?
[20:49] <Darkrift411> yes
[20:49] <das6745> user_: emmm... in system settings
[20:49] <user_> nosrednaekim: nice command.  thats a new one for me   *writes that one down*
[20:49] <val0> Darkrift411 with a ndiswrapper?
[20:49] <senorpedro> respati: do you even have adept_manager installed? try dpkg -l '*adept*' (from the command line/Konsole/terminal, you dont need to be root for that )
[20:49] <Darkrift411> if i remember correctly, when i first got it working many months ago, ndis didnt work, but we did something else
[20:49] <val0> Darkrift411 are the drivers being loaded properly?
[20:50] <Darkrift411> i tried ndis last night, and it didnt work
[20:50] <das6745> go kde-menu->system settings->default applications
[20:50] <jel> sasha_: another issue you might be seeing is that you need to log into some sites before you can access certain content, and wget won't have the login that your browser has.  Look at it's cookie options for that, or program something using python's mechanize or similar.
[20:50] <val0> Darkrift411 what happens when you try to bring the interface up?
[20:50] <user_> das6745: got it, and it works like a charm! I always use kcontrol instead of system settings, but this is a good one to know.  thanks!
[20:50] <Darkrift411> bring what interface up
[20:50] <val0> Darkrift411 your wireless interface
[20:51] <sasha_> I have an account on my colege's site with courses. I would like to download that site on my computer with wget
[20:51] <val0> Darkrift411 what does iwconfig say?
[20:51] <sasha_> I mean what I am able to take from that site
[20:51] <jel> sasha_: you want to download your course materials, not the site?
[20:51] <sasha_> yes
[20:51] <sasha_> sorry
[20:51] <Darkrift411> lo        no wireless extensions.
[20:51] <Darkrift411> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[20:51] <ScottK> Is there anyone here who has Edgy or Feisty that would be willing to install an updated Klamav (and Clamav) from PPA for testing?
[20:51] <das6745> user_: thx you too, i miss that kcontrol is more powerfull
[20:52] <jel> sasha_: ok, read the man pages for wget, and figure out how to let it use your browser's cookies then.  Login with your browser, then use its cookies in wget as a "key" to get your stuff.
[20:52] <Darkrift411> sudo lshw doesnt show my built on wifi, or the pcmcia card
[20:52] <Darkrift411> it just shows ethernet device (lan)
[20:52] <val0> Darkrift411 ok, what about "ifup eth0"?
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift411: weird...
[20:52] <Darkrift411> eth0 appeares to be my wired lan
[20:53] <val0> Darkrift411 oh ok
[20:53] <jel> sasha_: alternatively, use something built into your browser, or kget might work
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift411: you sure you are  are running the right kernel?
[20:53] <user_> das6745:  true, but i didn't see a place to set default browser in there, so system settings is good for something! :)
[20:53] <sasha_> jel:thanks a lot for advice
[20:53] <Darkrift411> yes
[20:53] <Darkrift411> its been working for like 6 months
[20:53] <sasha_> ok
[20:53] <sasha_> I shall try
[20:53] <Darkrift411> but yesterday my isp had a hickup, and my wife needed to get on, so she started messing with stuff
[20:53] <val0> Darkrift411 I've had the same issue with the pcmcia cards not working on my x23 and took me 3 days to get it running
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> not good...
[20:54] <Darkrift411> i came home and wifi managers and other things were open
[20:54] <respati> senorpedro, i'll have to check if i even should install adept_manager.  i guess the automatic udates can mess up linux media center edition.  but i think I can shut off automatic updates and just use it for manual downloads of specific programs cant i?
[20:54] <Darkrift411> she ran everything under the internet settings section and somehow changed something
[20:54] <val0> Darkrift411 how about activate at start up option? :D
[20:54] <user_> darkrift411: dumb question: do you have wireless enabled?
[20:55] <Darkrift411> yes
[20:55] <Darkrift411> the onboard wifi was working, but its a pain in the arse chipset, so i bought a belkin pcmcia card to avoid the hassle.... but that isnt even detected
[20:55] <user_> Darkrift411: when you right click network manager, does it even list any wireless options?
[20:55] <Darkrift411> right now all i have open is kwifimanager
[20:56] <Darkrift411> which is what used to work
[20:56] <jwprox> when I enable all the repos and apt-get kde4 I get an error saying some packages are uninstallable
[20:56] <jwprox> How do I upgrade to KDE4?
[20:56] <user_> darkrift411: the fact that nothing is even detected is troublesome.  Have you tried rebooting with recovery mode?
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[20:57] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:57] <Darkrift411> let me try that
[20:57] <val0> Darkrift411 check this out: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[20:57] <Darkrift411> brb i a few
[20:58] <miketalanca> I'm having a pretty big problem with GRUB; I had to format a few days ago and now I cannot do anything to get GRUB working; I've tried every terminal command and livecd trick (including Super GRUB disc) but I am always getting "error 15" no matter what I do.
[20:59] <miketalanca> If it matters here is my sudo fdisk -l when starting up from a livecd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52680/
[21:01] <user_> miketalanca: try this maybe > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[21:02] <user_> miketalanca: it should re-build your Grub properly
[21:02] <val0> miketalanca this could a good thing to look at too > http://www.blogmanno.com/?q=node/69
[21:02] <miketalanca> user_ I can't get the first post's trick to work correctly, and the second post doens't work at all because I get an "error 15"
[21:03] <user_> miketalanca: try val0's suggestion - just make sure you know the location of each device
[21:05] <miketalanca> Alright, I am trying that now.
[21:07] <Darkrift412> x didnt even want to start in recovery, and i had no idea what elase to do frmo there
[21:07] <user_> Darkrift412: x won't start automatically in recovery, you either can reboot or (what I do), press ctrl+d to proceed
[21:07] <Darkrift411> i c
[21:08] <user_> i probably should have mentioned that ;)
[21:08] <Darkrift411> im still pissed that somehow i ended up buying a pcmcia card with the same damned chipset in it that i was trying to avoid
[21:09] <user_> darkrift411: linux can be frustrating like that... i'm always checking to make sure the stuff is compatible
[21:09] <user_> darkrift411: but in your case, it *is* compatible, as you were using it before...
[21:09] <Darkrift411> yes
[21:09] <Darkrift411> i just dont know what went wrong
[21:09] <Darkrift411> sounds almost like a hw issue
[21:10] <firecrotch> Darkrift411:  still having wireless problems?
[21:10] <Darkrift411> onboard and pcmcia both not detected
[21:10] <val0> Darkrift411 so i guess that site helped a little? i had the same problem, i bought 2 different cards but both used the same stupid chip set
[21:10] <Darkrift411> yes firecrotch
[21:10] <user_> Darkrift411: yeah, but both pcmia *and( built-in go at the same time?
[21:10] <Darkrift411> i had been using the onboard for 6-10 months, and something happened yesterday
[21:10] <firecrotch> Wow I would have figured you'd have gotten that solved by now.  That thread on ubuntuforums didn't help?
[21:11] <Darkrift411> i couldnt get drivers reinstalled, so i gave up, and bought a new card (pcmcia)
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift411: hmm do you have a liveCD?
[21:11] <Darkrift411> when i put it in, its not detected, and it seems to use the exact same install method/drivers as the onboard does
[21:11] <Darkrift411> no, but i guess i should dl one
[21:11] <tdn> firecrotch, I do not have access to a Windows installation, so I cannot get Helvetica from there.
[21:12] <Darkrift411> i might have my install set, which im sure has a live boot option
[21:13] <firecrotch> tdn:  Oh, well, I suppose you'd have to buy one of the commercial ones then, or get someone who has a windows install to copy the font file from
[21:13] <g2g591> tdn: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[21:13] <Jeroi> !java
[21:13] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[21:13] <Darkrift411> afk,. going to look for my discs
[21:13] <user_> tdn: yeah, i think msttcorefonts has everything but tahoma
[21:14] <tdn> g2g591, user_: It does not have Helvetica.
[21:14] <g2g591> tdn: i think it has tahoma actuallly ..
[21:14] <firecrotch> it has tahoma, but does not have helvetica
[21:14] <tdn> firecrotch, ok, if I bought a Windows license, would I be allowed to copy Helvetica from it to my Kubuntu machine?
[21:15] <Jeroi> does sun-java5-jre make symbolic link to firefox?
[21:16] <firecrotch> tdn:  That's a grey area, really.
[21:17] <user_> tdn: it is *completely* possible, but i;m not sure if we can advise doing so
[21:17] <user_> tdn: i have a "friend" who did just that, and it works fine :)
[21:18] <user_> tdn: .ttf files are equally recognizable in ubuntu
[21:18] <KlavKalashj> kde4 was not really nice:P
[21:18] <KlavKalashj> tested it now
[21:18] <Darkrift411> how do i check my exact kubuntu version?
[21:19] <g2g591> Kalv: the trunk branch is pretty
[21:19] <RickKnight> nuxil:Are you still here? I think I've found the problem.
[21:19] <KlavKalashj> g2g...: :P
[21:19] <firecrotch> Darkrift411:  lsb_release -a
[21:19] <Darkrift411> k. thx
[21:19] <g2g591> Kalv: the trunk branch is pretty good i ment
[21:19] <firecrotch> Hmm... Vista apparently doesn't come with Helvetica.  I can't seem to find it, at least
[21:19] <Jeroi> how can I make java work with firefox?
[21:20] <Jeroi> I dled that jre
[21:20] <g2g591> Hmm I cant seem to find Helvetica on my xp
[21:20] <Jeroi> form multiverse
[21:20] <RickKnight> nuxil:After I created the new user account and started copying files I tried to run glxinfo. X restarted. So I think the problem must be in glx and nvidia.
[21:20] <g2g591> Jeroi: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[21:20] <Darkrift411> i have 7.04, and the site offers 6.?? or 7.10, and while i dont mind an upgrade, there might be changes in that version that would make it work but not help with debugging
[21:21] <Darkrift411> should i just try the 7.10 livecd?
[21:22] <tdn> user_, Ok :)
[21:22] <user_> Darkrift411: you can get the 7.04 livecd here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/
[21:23] <Darkrift411> the top link would be a livecd also, right?
[21:24] <Jeroi> why wont jre install plugin right away?
[21:24] <g2g591> Jeroi: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[21:24] <g2g591> Jeroi: some people dont want the plugin
[21:24] <user_> Darkrift411: i dont know what you mean- just download either the 32 bit or 64 bit version from the site
[21:24] <Darkrift411> i meant do the regular install cd's function as a livecd also? i thought they did, but wastn sure
[21:25] <user_> Darkrift411: yes.  they are the same thing :)
[21:25] <Darkrift411> k
[21:25] <Darkrift411> 10% dl
[21:25] <Darkrift411> gonna go smoke, tehn burn it
[21:25] <user_> Darkrift411: its a large file...
[21:25] <Darkrift411> we willl see if this helps
[21:25] <g2g591> Darkrift: as long as you dont download the alternate cd ... that one isnt live
[21:28] <das6745> user_: kcontrol->KDE components->Default applications =)
[21:28] <Jeroi> g2g591 packet is not available, bot one packet points to it
[21:28] <g2g591> huh?
[21:28] <Jeroi> amg64
[21:28] <Jeroi> amd64
[21:29] <sourcemaker> !nvidia
[21:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:29] <user_> das6745: much more hidden than in system settings!
[21:29] <g2g591> Jeroi: oh, amd64 doesn't have a java plugin, you have to install the 32 bit version, and a 32 bit browser
[21:30] <firecrotch> tdn:  This link might interest you... http://www.searchfreefonts.com/search/?p=2&q=helvetica
[21:30] <Jeroi> wel why cant I make the symbolic link?
[21:30] <Jeroi> insted?
[21:30] <Jeroi> jre is in 64bit
[21:30] <user_> tdn: can't you just arial instead?
[21:30] <g2g591> Jeroi: because the file you do the symlink from doesnt exist
[21:30] <user_> *just use
[21:30] <tdn> user_, no! Really, no! :)
[21:30] <Jeroi> how can I then enable java 64bit?
[21:30] <das6745> user_: you know that KDE guys =)
[21:31] <tdn> user_, it is just not as "perfect".
[21:31] <g2g591> Jeroi: you install the 32 bit version and a 32 bit browser
[21:31] <user_> tdn: i can't even find Helvetica on my XP install... hmmm
[21:31] <Jeroi> how?
[21:31] <tdn> user_, ok. Strange.
[21:31] <tdn> firecrotch, I'll check it. Thanks.
[21:31] <firecrotch> I couldn't find it on my Vista install either.  I think it might have a weird filename
[21:31] <g2g591> Jeroi:  im not sure, thats why i stopped using 64  bit, when i found about no java
[21:31] <mefisto_> helvetica doesn't come with windows, but there are many helvetica-like fonts
[21:32] <tdn> firecrotch, I think MS changed the font set in Vista.
[21:32] <g2g591> tdn: did you check out that found link above
[21:32] <g2g591> tdn: <firecrotch> tdn:  This link might interest you... http://www.searchfreefonts.com/search/?p=2&q=helvetica
[21:32] <tdn> g2g591, yes. I am doing that right now.
[21:32] <tdn> firecrotch, is that the real Helvetica? Or a free "implementation" of it?
[21:33] <firecrotch> tdn: I'm not sure, really
[21:33] <tdn> firecrotch, ok. I'll try it.
[21:33] <mefisto_> if you own any adobe software, you might find helvetica on the install cds
[21:33] <g2g591> firecrotch: wow thats lots of helveticas!
[21:36] <firecrotch> I'm not sure if it actually lets you download them from there though, it almost looks like it actually directs to a site where you have to pay for it
[21:36] <user_> tdn: on wikipedia, it says Arial is almost indistinguishable from Helvetica...
[21:36] <arkygeek> hi everyone
[21:37] <user_> "Monotype's Arial, designed in 1982, while different from Helvetica in some few details, has identical character widths, and is indistinguishable by most non-specialists."
[21:37] <arkygeek> how do i rebuild the linux image?  I did a dist-upgrade, and now in grub i have to boot to the old kernel. :-s
[21:37] <user_> tdn: Arial is much easier to come by
[21:37] <arkygeek> X wont start
[21:39] <user_> arkygeek: so you upgraded to 7.10, and now the grub menu lists... what, exactly?
[21:39] <sourcemaker> My nvidia card is not working... I have read the installation guide... but it does not work
[21:39] <user_> !envy >sourcemaker
[21:40] <sourcemaker> user_: yes... habve used this
[21:40] <user_> oh, then sorry :)
[21:40] <jussi01> !envy
[21:40] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:40] <enry> goodnight
[21:40] <jpatrick> enry: night
[21:41] <arkygeek> user_:  one generic (works)  and the other doesnt (386 or something)
[21:41] <user_> arkygeek: is the "generic" your new version?
[21:42] <user_> it should be
[21:42] <arkygeek> user_: no.
[21:42] <mefisto_> arkygeek: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:42] <arkygeek> k
[21:43] <sourcemaker> the nvidia driver does not detect my nvidia card
[21:44] <sourcemaker> I have a Geforce 7800GT
[21:44] <arkygeek> user_: http://rafb.net/p/z4IZPQ97.html
[21:44] <sourcemaker> !binarydriver
[21:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:45] <sourcemaker> binary driver does not work
[21:46] <user_> arkygeek: the "386" version is the same as the "generic" just below it
[21:47] <arkygeek> hrm....
[21:47] <user_> arkygeek: if the one just below the two "386" entries works, just remove it from the grub menu
[21:47] <arkygeek> user_: no it isnt. the kernel image is different
[21:47] <sourcemaker> !pastebin
[21:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:48] <arkygeek> user_: yeah, thought of that.  still bugs me that it didnt work though, know what i mean?  like, wtf?"!?
[21:48]  * arkygeek heads off to remove the entry
[21:48] <user_> arkygeek: i'm pretty sure they are the same - they're both 2.6.22-14 - just with a different reference name.
[21:49] <user_> its the same kernel
[21:49] <sourcemaker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52689/
[21:49] <arkygeek> user_: off to reboot.... brb   (and thx!) :-))
[21:50] <user_> sourcemaker: see here> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649132
[21:52] <blizzzek> gn8
[21:53] <sourcemaker> what't the current kubuntu kernel version?
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> in gutsy?
[21:54] <sourcemaker> yes in gusty
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> 2.6.22-14
[21:54] <sourcemaker> nosrednaekim: thanks
[21:55] <mefisto_> while you're all talking kernels, has anyone installed linux-rt?
[21:55] <mefisto_> previously known as linux-lowlatency
[21:55] <user_> mefisto: i've never had good luck compiling my own kernels
[21:55] <jussi01> mefisto_: yep
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> user_: its in the repositories
[21:56] <jussi01> !rt
[21:56] <Scubar> anyone know the easiest way to get the latest nvidia forceware drivers installed ?
[21:56] <jussi01> !rt
[21:56] <ubotu> The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Gutsy
[21:56] <mefisto_> jussi01: any downsides?
[21:56] <javier> hello
[21:56] <javier> alguien habla espanl
[21:56] <user_> nosrednaekim: is there anything you *don't* know? :)
[21:56] <jussi01> mefisto_: what are you using it for
[21:56] <jussi01> !es | javier
[21:56] <ubotu> javier: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:56] <user_> !es | javier
[21:56] <Scubar> i tried earlier and after ending x session it said something about kernel headers being wrong
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> user_: oh yes :)
[21:57] <mefisto_> music, with rosegarden and ardour
[21:57] <jussi01> mefisto_: you may want to look into ubuntustudio
[21:57] <jussi01> !ubuntustudio | mefisto_
[21:57] <ubotu> mefisto_: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[21:58] <user_> scubar: see here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[21:58] <mefisto_> jussi01: but I can pretty much build ubuntustudio from the standard k/ubuntu, no?
[21:59] <user_> mefisto: i'd imagine so, but this has everything packaged together
[21:59] <frojnd> I have ati mobility x1400. Is there any tutorial how to install linux driver for that ?
[21:59] <jussi01> mefisto_: yeah, we have made a few changes ie. some to the limits.conf though
[21:59] <user_> frojnd: http://www.lunders-and.no/wp/?p=96
[22:00] <g2g591> frojnd: have you tried systemsettings -> advanced -> restricted manager
[22:00] <frojnd> g2g591, yes I have but I don't see any result, I still have 1024*768 :S
[22:00] <user_> frojnd: if that doesn't work, you can also try here: http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/20/install-and-enable-restricted-drivers-in-ubuntu/
[22:02] <mefisto_> jussi01: so ubuntustudio installs linux-rt by default?
[22:02] <jussi01> mefisto_: have a look at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation
[22:02] <jussi01> mefisto_: correct
[22:03] <g2g591> so? you need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , and setit to use the new driver, and a better res
[22:04] <tdn> user_, and yet, Arila is not at all as perfect as Helvetica. The horizontal lines in Helvetica are missing in Arial.
[22:05] <user_> tdn: i understand they're a little different, but Arial is easy to find, and Helvetica - not so much...
[22:06] <tdn> user_, yes. I know.
[22:06] <mefisto_> thanks jussi01, I'll try the ubuntustudio-audio. I'm assuming this will also install gnome, right?
[22:07] <CppIsWeird> ive got an  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family), i had it working in 7.04, upgrading to 7.10 i get nothing. anyone know what i can do? i cant find too much on google other then people messing with alsamixer settings which have done nothing for me.
[22:07] <jussi01> mefisto_: could you join #ubuntustudio?
[22:08] <tdn> I am trying to unmount an USB storage device, and I get this error: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1053.html.
[22:08] <jussi01> CppIsWeird: is that the hda one?
[22:08] <CppIsWeird> yep
[22:08] <jussi01> !intelhda | CppIsWeird
[22:08] <ubotu> CppIsWeird: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:09] <tdn> http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1054.html <- Here are the process details. Should I just kill them?
[22:11] <frojnd> user_, I have enabled restricted drivers for ati but in system -> settings -> screen I only see 1024*768, 800*600 and 640*480.. Do I have manually edit xorg.conf or do I have start all xorg settings from gorund up ?
[22:11] <Darkrift411> ok, so im burning this livecd what do i want to do with it
[22:13] <CppIsWeird> im not screwing with a bunch of custom stuff
[22:13] <user_> frojnd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    then specify your resolution
[22:14] <user_> frojnd: it will only take a couple of minutes- most things will be correctly auto-detected
[22:15] <TimS> Can Ark open password protected rar files?
[22:15] <frojnd> user_, should I pick for X server driver ATI or leave vesa ?
[22:15] <Artimus> I came here this morning with Automount issues in Gutsy.  If anyone wants this for their notes, this was the solution I found.  If automount doesn't work and/or HAL can't start, run this command as root and reboot: /usr/lib/hal/hald-generate-fdi-cache
[22:15] <jpatrick> TimS: no
[22:15] <TimS> jpatrick: Is there another program that can?
[22:15] <jpatrick> TimS: unrar e archive.rar
[22:15] <user_> frojnd: i would say try the ATI one (that's what you are using).  If it doesn't work, you can always go back and use vesa (which is generic)
[22:16] <TimS> Will it prompt for password?
[22:16] <user_> tims: if its password protected, then yes
[22:16] <TimS> Alright =]
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> Artimus: Is this the fix for automounting ntfs?
[22:17] <Artimus> Odd-rationale: No
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> Artimus: OK
[22:18] <Artimus> This is an issue where out of the box, HAL gets messed up (it'll give errors on loading KDE)
[22:18] <Artimus> I don't have any NTFS drives, so I haven't ever looked into that one
[22:18] <Odd-rationale> Artimus: OK. Mine's different, then.
[22:18] <Artimus> I've had issues where NTFS drives won't mount because of them not being cleanly unmounted from Windows.
[22:18] <Artimus> (that was mounting manually)
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> Artimus: I have an external hdd
[22:19] <adydas> is there anyway to learn the path of a sound device ( a mic )
[22:20] <Artimus> Odd-rationale: Just heads up, if you just unplug it instead of clicking "Safely Remove Hardware" in Windows or unmounting it nicely in Linux, Linux *WILL NOT* mount it next time you plug it in
[22:20] <Odd-rationale> Artimus: I can mount it manually form the command line. So it is really no problem. But it would be nice if it worked like my FAT32 flash drive.
[22:20] <user_> odd-rationale: can you format it to ext3?
[22:21] <Artimus> user_: Might as well make it FAT32 by that point.
[22:21] <Odd-rationale> user_: I use it to share files with window machines. I'm the only one in the family using linux.
[22:21] <CppIsWeird> ive got an  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family), i had it working in 7.04, upgrading to 7.10 i get nothing. anyone know what i can do? i cant find too much on google other then people messing with alsamixer settings which have done nothing for me.
[22:21] <adydas> you tryed looking at kmix
[22:22] <adydas> if i recall right upon my install with a very simlar sounding set of a situation i was required to move the sliders up
[22:22] <adydas> and turn on some things
[22:23] <Odd-rationale> Hopefully Kubuntu Hardy will fix this. (It automounts in ubuntu gnome gutsy though)
[22:25] <simion314> hi, i want to kill x and enter in terminal mode?
[22:25] <simion314> how can i kill X
[22:26] <simion314> ?
[22:26] <adydas> So you want it to allways boot in terminal mode?
[22:30] <g2g591> simion: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[22:30] <genii> simion314: Choose from login manager Console or Terminal login
[22:30] <genii> simion314: As the session
[22:36] <homelessjoe> anyone know how to remove cups without removing kde?
[22:37] <Maara> update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[22:38] <jpatrick> homelessjoe: no
[22:38] <homelessjoe> that will allow me to remove cups without having apt remove kde?
[22:38] <homelessjoe> jpatrick: arg
[22:39] <homelessjoe> i dont need cups since i dont print anything! ugh so stupid
[22:39] <homelessjoe> theres no way to break the "dependency" on it? even though its not actually dependent on it?
[22:40] <firecrotch> homelessjoe: what is it saying is dependent on cups ?
[22:41] <homelessjoe> kde
[22:41] <homelessjoe> and vice versa
[22:41] <firecrotch> that's odd.  I would expect kubuntu-desktop to be dependent on it, but not kde itself
[22:42] <homelessjoe> technically it does say kubuntu-desktop
[22:42] <firecrotch> kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that depends on _everything_ that is installed by default
[22:43] <CppIsWeird> ive got an  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family), i had it working in 7.04, upgrading to 7.10 i get nothing. anyone know what i can do? i cant find too much on google other then people messing with alsamixer settings which have done nothing for me.
[22:43] <jason__> i am having an issue with kaffeine or xine not sure what the problem is but it keeps saying that all the video drivers failed to load. it was working fine last night but now it won't do didley
[22:43] <homelessjoe> is there a way to delete that met package without actually removing anything? in a way breaking that dependency
[22:43] <homelessjoe> meta*
[22:44] <firecrotch> you can just remove kubuntu-desktop, it shouldn't delete the things that it depends on
[22:45] <homelessjoe> hmm
[22:45] <homelessjoe> i really hope so
[22:45] <homelessjoe> that seems to remove all of kde
[22:45] <firecrotch> well, I don't even have kubuntu-desktop installed on my system, and I'm running KDE :)
[22:45] <homelessjoe> *is going to try it now*
[22:46] <homelessjoe> omg my machine is running like ass for some reason! is there a way to turn off power management?
[22:46] <firecrotch> homelessjoe:  besides, it would list all packages that are going to be removed before doing anything
[22:47] <firecrotch> just make sure that it ONLY lists kubuntu-desktop, and you'll be fine
[22:47] <homelessjoe> k
[22:48] <jason__> anybody? anybody have a clue where to begin for fixing xine video drivers
[22:50] <Odd-rationale>  Hello! I'm having trouble connecting to last.fm with amarok. I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52697/ I have already double-check to make sure my username ans password are correct. Thanks for your help!
[22:50] <g2g591> jason_:sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:52] <g2g591> odd: working on it
[22:52] <jason__> it's installed
[22:53] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: were you talking to me?
[22:54] <g2g591> Odd-rationale: im working on loading that pastebin page, im multitasking
[22:54] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: OK Thanks.
[22:55] <jason__> i even tried reinstalling it... same problem
[22:56] <g2g591> Odd-rationale: this is just a weird error -> over my head
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: OK. Thanks anyways.
[22:58] <jason__> as i said it was working fine last night and now i am getting "All Video Drivers failed to initialize!"
[23:00] <g2g591> jason_: thats wierd
[23:00] <jason__> yeah, the thing is, amarok is working fine
[23:04] <jason__> i've tried reinstalling everything, I just don't understand it
[23:10] <Kloplop32> I have a quick question, where is the bash script that acts after the user is logged in? I need to set a variable with export, but global, and not just in that terminal session
[23:12] <adz21c> i think one of might be ~/.profile, but don't take my word on that
[23:13] <sourcemaker> simple question: nvidia-glx is working fine... nvidia-glx-new not... shouldn't I use nvidia-glx-new for newer nvidia cards?
[23:13] <adz21c> sourcemaker: which card?
[23:13] <sourcemaker> 7800GT
[23:14] <Kloplop32> hm...
[23:14] <adz21c> yea i would think new is what you should be using
[23:14] <Kloplop32> I have a FX one, and I know glx on linux was meant for general FX
[23:14] <alex_mayorga> hello all, what's the easiest way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[23:14] <sourcemaker> adz21c: but with glx-new... I receive an api missmatch
[23:14] <Kloplop32> install the KDE environment
[23:15] <adydas> how can i idenfity a sound device
[23:15] <adz21c> alex_mayorga: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <alex_mayorga> adz21c, thanks
[23:15] <adz21c> sourcemaker: sounds like somethings going wrong when removing the old driver
[23:16] <adz21c> sourcemaker: then you get a mix of both and it isn't happy
[23:16] <sourcemaker> adz21c: the old driver is working fine
[23:16] <Kloplop32> adz21c, do you know where that ~/.profile may be at?
[23:16] <Kloplop32> sourcemaker, then I would just stay with the old one :/
[23:16] <sourcemaker> adz21c: when I purge nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-new... kdm is not working due api missmatch
[23:17] <adz21c> sourcemaker: yea thats what I mean, the old driver is install, but doesn't remove correctly then install new and u get a mix and all hell breaks loose
[23:17] <sourcemaker> adz21c: ok
[23:17] <steve_> hi
[23:17] <steve_> oh ffs
[23:17] <adz21c> sourcemaker: like Kloplop32 says tho, unless you have problems with the old driver might as well stick to it
[23:17] <steve_> stupid Konversation
[23:17] <Darkrift411> ok, nothing is working, still cant get wifi going, so im going to try to upgrade to 7.10
[23:17] <alex_mayorga> adz21c, I tried with aptitude but it asks to remove all my language packs
[23:17] <TheGull> hi
[23:17] <bascule> I can't seem to set a cover on some tunes I have just downloaded, the set cover options are all greyed out in edit track information and the sidebar, any ideas?
[23:18] <Darkrift411> everyone told me the adept update will prob fail, or not go smooth, but at this point, with no wifi, i could care less
[23:18] <Darkrift411> any words of wisdom for me?
[23:18] <Scubar> does anyone know how i could get some form of sound on my X-Fi Prelude sound card ?
[23:18] <adz21c> alex_mayorga: odd, but other than performing a full install from a kubuntu disc or picking out packages individually thats the key package
[23:18] <TheGull> \part
[23:19] <alex_mayorga> in the aptitude punctuation a bigger number is a worst thing right?
[23:19] <jason__> ok, i solved the problem, i didn't have libxine1-x installed
[23:19] <adz21c> Scubar: the X-Fi only has some beta 64bit drivers available
[23:19] <lod_> I have a Q. about Cedega, to update from 6.0 to 6.0.5 must I apply all updates before 6.0.5
[23:19] <Kloplop32> thanks adz21c I found the .profile file, restarting now to test if variable is set
[23:19] <adz21c> lod_: no
[23:19] <lod_> 10x
[23:19] <adz21c> Kloplop32:  gl
[23:21] <sourcemaker> does the RT kernel performs better on desktop systems?
[23:23] <lod_> iwconfig wlan0 mode master
[23:23] <lod_> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[23:23] <lod_>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[23:23] <Scubar> anyone got a X-Fi Prelude working on ubuntu ?
[23:23] <jussi01> sourcemaker: not really
[23:23] <Scubar> even if its just basic output
[23:24] <Scubar> kinda makes me sad cause i wanted to play quake wars on here :(
[23:24] <adz21c> Scubar: http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html
[23:24] <nickpresta> For some reason, whenever I try to login, the computer hangs before I can get to the desktop or the login process sends me back to the login screen. Ideas?
[23:24] <Darkrift411> i love linux
[23:24] <Darkrift411> getting a FREE os upgrade, at 2000kb/s over the internet
[23:24] <Darkrift411> when will ms learn
[23:24] <Scubar> ill take a look
[23:25] <Scubar> unforunately the Prelude is made by Auzentech
[23:25] <Scubar> although they still use the creative drivers but not sure which ones
[23:25] <adz21c> Scubar: well they will use the same chip
[23:25] <nickpresta> I applied the latest updates (including the previously broken X package) so I think that could be the problem...
[23:27] <Scubar> that only has 64bit driver :\
[23:27] <Scubar> unless im being blind
[23:27] <adz21c> yea
[23:27] <adz21c> there is only a 64bit driver
[23:27] <adz21c> and its beta
[23:27] <Scubar> im runnin i386
[23:27] <adz21c> i was thinking about getting an xfi till i found
[23:27] <adz21c> out
[23:28] <Darkrift411> should going from 7.04 to 7.10 give any more hw support?
[23:28] <Scubar> Auzentech are making a driver at the moment but they only say its scheduled for Q1 08
[23:28] <Scubar> i hate waiting
[23:28] <nickpresta> Darkrift411: I would imagine so. Newer kernel, etc.
[23:28] <Darkrift411> cool
[23:28] <PriceChild> Darkrift411, yes, for the latest hardware
[23:29] <Darkrift411> im scared still
[23:29] <adz21c> Scubar: i don't think there is much else u can do except use an onboard card if you have one till then?
[23:29] <adz21c> Scubar: under linux
[23:29] <Darkrift411> ppl in here told me not to do the "version upgrade" but right now my computer is as good as useless without wifi
[23:29] <Kloplop32> .profile isn't it adz21c :/
[23:29] <nickpresta> PriceChild: if possible, could you list the packages that were affect via the latest update or which were directly related to X? I think I need to downgrade.
[23:29] <adz21c> Kloplop32: your just trying to set an enviroment variable when logging in?
[23:30] <Kloplop32> do you at least know how/where to set environmental variables?
[23:30] <Kloplop32> yep
[23:30] <adz21c> Kloplop32: and what did you put?
[23:30] <PriceChild> nickpresta, it has been fixed with newer packages.
[23:30] <Kloplop32> export PSPDEV=/user/local/pspdev
[23:30] <nickpresta> PriceChild: I'm having trouble logging into my desktop and the only thing I've done recently is update those packages. =(
[23:31] <gan|y|med> hi
[23:31] <adz21c> Kloplop32: weird cos it worked for me
[23:31] <PriceChild> nickpresta, not related.
[23:31] <PriceChild> nickpresta, give the channel more information on the errors you are experiencing.
[23:32] <Scubar> i have the special SoundFX that came with my Asus Blitz mobo
[23:32] <Kloplop32> yeah, I know it works in the terminal, but it isn't global systemwide. It has to be able to be used inside of a C script compiled by gcc
[23:32] <nickpresta> For some reason, whenever I try to login, the computer hangs before I can get to the desktop or the login process sends me back to the login screen.
[23:32] <Scubar> so i could try popping that in and using that in linux and using my Prelude in Vista
[23:32] <adz21c> Kloplop32: oh ok, got ya, it isn't on a per user basis then
[23:32] <Kloplop32> I can go: echo $PSPDEV and it returns blank, but then I do export... then it works
[23:33] <Kloplop32> well I am the only user, it just has to be able to be constant and preset in the system
[23:33] <lotfi> i'm here
[23:33] <lotfi> lol
[23:34] <adz21c> Kloplop32: try /etc/rc.local?
[23:34] <Kloplop32> because when it starts a session  export only works in that section
[23:34] <Kloplop32> yes I already tried that
[23:34] <Kloplop32> and I already tried /etc/init.d/rc.local
[23:35] <adz21c> well you tried all the ones i know of
[23:36] <Kloplop32> I know :(
[23:37] <Scubar> is wine still the best for running win bins ?
[23:38] <Darkrift411> id think so
[23:38] <Darkrift411> i run world of warcraft in wine
[23:38] <Darkrift411> runs great
[23:38] <Darkrift411> crossover office is good, but its just wine with a facelife as far as i can tell
[23:38] <bascule> Kloplop32: /etc/bash.bashrc
[23:38] <Scubar> its k im gettin wine now anyway
[23:39] <Scubar> its only 2 apps i need to run
[23:39] <Scubar> and i know they run under wine
[23:39] <Kloplop32> bascule, I'll look
[23:41] <Darkrift411> how important is the package debconf ?
[23:41] <Darkrift411> because that package was corrupted in my version upgrade
[23:41] <adydas> Cripes can somone tell me how you install flash when its erroring
[23:41] <Scubar> dunno flash isnt working for me in opera
[23:42] <Darkrift411> oh crap
[23:42] <Darkrift411> x11-common also got messed up
[23:42] <Darkrift411> i feel like im going to have major problems
[23:42] <adydas> ive done it on drapper or feisty
[23:42] <adydas> but cant get flash plugin to work with gutsy for some reason i get a md5 error
[23:42] <applehypnosis> adydas, url coming up
[23:42] <adydas> Cheers ears, i aint even got it going by putting liflashplayer.so into operas plugins folder
[23:44] <nickpresta> exit
[23:44] <Kloplop32> thanks to the person who told me about /etc/bash.bashrc :) (forgot your name) thanks
[23:46] <applehypnosis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[23:46] <JoshOvki> evening
[23:46] <adydas> 4 me?
[23:46] <applehypnosis> that's not what i'm looking for but it should work
[23:46] <applehypnosis> yeah
[23:46] <applehypnosis> i'll keep loking
[23:47] <applehypnosis> there is one where you simply open up nano/gedit/vim and comment out the md5 matching section =[ but for the life of me I can't see it
[23:47] <NickPresta> How would one go about uninstalling the nvidia driver installed with Nvidia's .run package?
[23:47] <maria> I have a problem with 'kmix'. I get 'It seems like kmix is not running' error when I attempt to adjust the volume.
[23:48] <adydas> NickPresta: are you using gutsy?
[23:48] <adydas> if so theres a much easyer way to do it, System settings > Advanced > restriced Drivers
[23:49] <vlt> Hello. I'm looking for an audio player that can do the following: When skipping to the next track (manually) I want the current track to fade out in 500 ms. Any idea?
[23:49] <adydas> vlt: tryed amarok?
[23:50] <maria> I am having problems getting kmix. 'Mixer cannot be found'
[23:50] <Scubar> cant xmms do it ?
[23:50] <bascule> it was obvious after the event, no album tag set :)
[23:51] <adydas> vlt: amarok has a crossfading optiong
[23:51] <adydas> set in ms
[23:51] <NickPresta> adydas, I know about restricted-manager :) I needed to use the latest version to support an 8800 GT. I am going back to the version in the repos. I actually figured out how to uninstall the .run package.
[23:51] <adydas> vlt:  its under the playback option menu
[23:52]  * bascule knows vlt was just in #amarok asking the same thing :)
[23:52] <adydas> ah
[23:52] <vlt> adydas: amarok fades the next track in. I need it to play immediately and only the current one to fade out.
[23:52] <adydas> well i just setit up and tryed and does excatly what he wants.. :p
[23:52] <bascule> wants fade in in the second tune
[23:52] <adydas> oh
[23:52] <bascule> not sure why though ... :)
[23:53] <adydas> what about no crossfading, and turn on fade out
[23:53] <adydas> so it starts the next one, and fades out the other?
[23:53] <hydrogen> thats only on exit
[23:53] <adydas> oh bummer
[23:53] <adydas> well im out of ideas :P
[23:53] <bascule> he seems to want fade *in* on the second tune
[23:54] <adydas> to be hoenst im crossfading now and you cant really tell
[23:54] <bascule> I turn it off, annoys me to death :)
[23:55] <adydas> oh im going to turn it off, just saying if thats what you want its as close to it as i think youd get, and its so close what diff is there..
[23:55] <bascule> :)
[23:56] <adydas> applehypnosis: am i understanding correcltly that there is a deb file to install flash?
[23:56] <Jabapyth> whats the command to "version upgrade" from the command line?
[23:57] <adydas> apt-get upgrade
[23:57] <adydas> ?
[23:57] <bascule> Jabapyth: well I edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the new release and dist-upgrade
[23:57] <adydas> or apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[23:57] <bascule> Jabapyth: so basically change all feisty to gutsy
[23:57] <Jabapyth> thanks
[23:58] <firecrotch> That's a VERY bad way to upgrade to gutsy
[23:58] <bascule> mine?
[23:58] <Jabapyth> really?
[23:58] <adydas> firecrotch: must agree never worked for me...
[23:58] <firecrotch> editing sources.list and then updating, yes.  It's been known to break people's systems
[23:59] <bascule> firecrotch: what is the suggested way?
[23:59] <firecrotch> If you're running Kubuntu, why would you want to do it from the command line?
[23:59] <bascule> !upgrade > bascule