[02:54] <gnomefreak> it looks kdeish :(
[02:55] <_trick> ah, I guess the slapd package is missing a dep
[02:55] <dooglus> Belboz99: it's not a bit which is accessible with chmod
[02:55] <ithiel_> soundray, haven't tried any dev file because I don't know what Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 is
[02:55] <_trick> db4.2_utils
[02:55] <Engla> Belboz99: how do  you see that it's a file?
[02:55] <Keyframe> dli: how about var?
[02:55] <dli> Keyframe, nowadays, I don't reinstall without a backup, I go with /boot /
[02:55] <Belboz99> okay, so if my file system is screwed, how do I fix that?
[02:55] <Jambon> i just ran easyubuntu on dapper, and got this error message in the terminal when i ran it: IOError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/icons/default.xpm'
[02:55] <Belboz99> -rw-r--r--    1 root root     62 2005-12-03 00:42 fold
[02:55] <dli> Keyframe, for servers only, security concerns, not for your own desktop
[02:55] <soundray> vook, run a 'grep tmpfs /etc/init.d/*' to get an impression how things play together.
[02:55] <Belboz99> that file was a directory
[02:55] <hyphenated> Belboz99: fsck
[02:55] <crouchingMonkey> is there a limewire for linux ?
[02:55] <Jambon> did the update fail or just the firefox icon?
[02:56] <Jambon> crouchingMonkey:  yes
[02:56] <soundray> ithiel_: you don't need to know. Try /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:56] <Belboz99> I can still see it and browse the files in it over the network
[02:56] <dli> Keyframe, indeed, it's sensiless for me to have a /var for desktop
[02:56] <khafra> I'm using AMD64 Ubuntu and linux32 for 32 bit programs, like firefox and its plugins.  If I want to install vlc to the 32 bit firefox, not the 64 bit, how do I make the debian package do that?
[02:56] <javiolo> any ftp client with gui ?
[02:56] <dooglus> Belboz99: there are 12 bits which chmod can affect.  3 reads, 3 writes, 3 executes, setuid, setgid and sticky.
[02:56] <Unity> can someone quickly explain why there k and k^5 have the same unit's digit?
[02:56] <stpere> crouchingMonkey, of course
[02:56] <Keyframe> dli.. I see.. because I always run apache in same config as my server with var/html.. heh I'll change that then
[02:56] <Kr4t05> gah
[02:56] <Unity> oops wrong window
[02:56] <Belboz99> and in fact, some software is running from it right now
[02:56] <gnomefreak> alot of things dont work in dapper
[02:56] <gnomefreak> it is getting better tho :)
[02:56] <soundray> gnomefreak: like Openoffice :(
[02:56] <dli> Keyframe, apache doesn't care /var is a dir or partition
[02:57] <gnomefreak> my OOO works great
[02:57] <dooglus> Belboz99: can I suggest you back it up (into a tar archive or similar) as soon as possible?
[02:57] <dooglus> Belboz99: it's quite possible that as soon as the software which is using it stops using it, the contents will become unavailable.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> soundray: did you install the OOo updates this afternoon that were being held back?
[02:57] <Keyframe> ok, I'll make boot partition, swap and / .. just to be safe for swap ;) How much should boot be?
[02:57] <D[a] > Yo.
[02:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes. But it may be different, because I'm on amd64
[02:58] <wastrel> javiolo:  gftp
[02:58] <D[a] > I have the drivers for win32 on my ubuntu box cuz it says that it doesnt support linux on their site, but the linux site says it does take it.
[02:58] <Belboz99> hyphenated: , how do I run fsck with the drive unmounted?
[02:58] <dli> Keyframe, 100 MB is more than enough
[02:58] <D[a] > hrm..
[02:58] <D[a] > It's a D-link G510 atherois chipset
[02:58] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, well I finally did the script and it worked marvelously. Thank you v m
[02:58] <gnomefreak> soundray: yeah ive heard that with 64bit
[02:58] <gnomefreak> yw ced
[02:58] <Keyframe> dli: thanks dude :)
[02:58] <hyphenated> Belboz99: fsck /partition
[02:58] <javiolo> wastrel thanks!
[02:58] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: enjoy your smoke
[02:59] <Wammy|> hyphenated, as far as i remeber your not supposed to fsck a mounted partition
[02:59] <dli> Keyframe, I like jfs on /boot, however, standard is ext2
[02:59] <Belboz99> hyphenated: , I mean, the entire partition is the one that root is in
[02:59] <D[a] > hrm
[02:59] <D[a] > Uh.
[02:59] <D[a] > dli or soundray
[02:59] <Keyframe> dli: any particular reason?
[02:59] <D[a] > I have the drivers for win32 on my ubuntu box cuz it says that it doesnt support linux on their site, but the linux site says it does take it. | It's a D-link G510 atherois chipset | What do I do with the .sys and the .inf or whatever? I remember seeing on forums somewhere to put it somewhere, but I have no clue where.......
[02:59] <Belboz99> hyphenated:  do I have to reboot into a restore mode or something?
[02:59] <ithiel_> soundray: device doesn't exist. try to remember that the samsung doesn't explicitly identify itself as a modem, I just tell it to do so
[02:59] <hyphenated> Wammy|: indeed, it's not a good idea :-)
[02:59] <hyphenated> Belboz99: rescue mode, yeah
[02:59] <hyphenated> or use a live cd
[02:59] <dli> Keyframe, no such boring fsck.ext2 on booting
[03:00] <Belboz99> oops, I meant rescue
[03:00] <Keyframe> hehe
[03:00] <ithiel_> soundray, no USB devices (seemingly) in /dev, and certainly no ttyUSB0. I'll doublecheck GUI configs, but otherwise not getting much ---> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 ????
[03:00] <Wammy|> hey so does anyone want to take my offer for $30 + free webhosting/gameserver to get my sound card working?
[03:00] <D[a] > lmao
[03:00] <soundray> ithiel_: well it was worth trying. It may be that your phone just isn't supported, though.
[03:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol Wammy|
[03:00] <sbalneav> D[a] : google for ndiswrapper + ubuntu
[03:00] <dli> Keyframe, jfs is supported by grub, but you will need jfs support in kernel too, go ext2, if you are not sure about it
[03:00] <gnomefreak> i always do :)
[03:00] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:00] <Wammy|> Ive been dealing with this for the past 48 hours, i only slept like 5 hours today
[03:00] <D[a] > i tried
[03:01] <D[a] > apt-get install ndiswrapper-tools
[03:01] <ithiel_> soundray: you do realize that my attempted use of this phone nears the bizarre, and that default support is near nil, right?
[03:01] <Keyframe> dli: yeah I'm not - I'll go all the way with ext2 I guess
[03:01] <D[a] > but it said something aobut being too outdated and needing to get th newest version
[03:01] <D[a] > I HAVE NO CLUE.
[03:01] <sbalneav> D[a] : Well, that was self evident.
[03:01] <D[a] > Obviously.
[03:01] <gnomefreak> if i can view a 3d screensaver does that mean my 3d works?
[03:01] <crouchingMonkey> any instructions out there on how to install limewire on ubuntu ?
[03:01] <D[a] > sbalneav do you happen to hnave htat link on the forums?
[03:01] <Jambon> does easy ubuntu work with dapper?
[03:01] <D[a] > I have the .inf and .sys it says it needed
[03:02] <sbalneav> D[a] : does this machine have a WIRED connection in it?
[03:02] <soundray> ithiel_: are you getting angry now? Take it out on Samsung for not supporting Linux, please.
[03:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell crouchingMonkey about limewire
[03:02] <sbalneav> Like an ethernet interface?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> crouchingMonkey: in your pm :)
[03:02] <Celeste> hi
[03:02] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:02] <D[a] > no
[03:02] <Celeste> what Xorg version does ubuntu use, please?
[03:02] <D[a] > Wireless.
[03:02] <D[a] > Only way it can be done.
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Jambon: not sure dapper is in testing stages
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Celeste: breezy uses 6.8
[03:03] <Celeste> thank you gnomefreak
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ^^^latest stable release
[03:03] <Jambon> anyone here used xgl on a i810?
[03:03] <Celeste> cool ... thank you
[03:03] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:03] <sbalneav> D[a] : Baloney.  What, you can't PUT an ethernet card in it TEMPORARILY so you can update the ndiswrapper-tools?
[03:03] <samisad0rk> hey im having probs gettin ubuntu live to run on my computer, can anyone help?
[03:03] <sbalneav> You can't BORROW a usb ethernet adapter somewhere?
[03:04] <gabriel> hi...?
[03:04] <soundray> samisad0rk: describe the problem.
[03:04] <theshibboleth> how do I find out what sound card I'm using?
[03:04] <wastrel> hi gabriel
[03:04] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:04] <D[a] > no
[03:04] <Wammy|> no one to take my offer?
[03:04] <D[a] > i can't.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> theshibboleth: lspci
[03:04] <ithiel_> soundray: sigh, thx anyways.
[03:04] <D[a] > only way to do is wirelessly.
[03:04] <Kr4t05> !twinview
[03:04] <ubotu> Kr4t05: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:04] <Kr4t05> ...
[03:04] <sbalneav> D[a] : And why would that be?
[03:04] <ithiel_> soundray: samsung doesn't support windows either, or mac for that matter
[03:04] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:04] <Kr4t05> that needs to be in the bot.
[03:04] <D[a] > i can't exactly wire a cable
[03:05] <Kr4t05> twinview needs to be in the bot ><
[03:05] <samisad0rk> when it goes to boot it seems like its going then gets stuck on this message "kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
[03:05] <D[a] > through a wall
[03:05] <Kr4t05> dammit.
[03:05] <D[a] > with a solid ceiling
[03:05] <D[a] > etc.
[03:05] <wastrel> !enter
[03:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:05] <sbalneav> How about moving the machine for a bit?
[03:05] <soundray> ithiel_: *hrm* motorola
[03:05] <theshibboleth> gnomefreak:thanks
[03:05] <vook> anyone have an idea what would cause none of the tmpfs filesystems to mount (I went from breezy to dapper and back to breezy (I know, bad idea, but everything works except the tmpfs filesystems, and I've had this happen before))
[03:05] <ithiel_> soundray: I don't think you properly comprehend what it is I am doing with my phone, it is a completely unsupported feature/ability. It took 2 hours just to get working on Windows, if that gives you any sense of scale
[03:05] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:05] <D[a] > I can't.
[03:05] <D[a] > It's fixed in place.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> theshibboleth: yw
[03:05] <D[a] > Can't you just help me get it done wirelessly, pete's sake.
[03:05] <wastrel> !tell D[a]  about enter
[03:05] <soundray> ithiel_: this is the third time you are alluding to my limited comprehension. Thank you, our discussion is over.
[03:05] <Rob_Dude> I'm a big fan of the 'enter pause.  You know ya just sorta
[03:05] <ithiel_> soundray: my phone is fine. as for motorola, they weren't an option where I got my wireless plan at. otherwise I would've chosen one. I have no qualms with the terms of my contract, it's a good plan with tons of free minutes
[03:06] <sbalneav> How can I help you get it done wirelessly when we can't get the bit installed?
[03:06] <Rob_Dude> Hit enter, and it's like a SUPER comma :)
[03:06] <sbalneav> You need to update your ndiswrapper-tools.
[03:06] <ithiel_> my wireless still doesn't bloody work
[03:06] <ithiel_> gah.
[03:06] <theshibboleth> I need help getting sound to work with a nvidia audio card in 3d games
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ithiel_: sending the signal through your phone or a wireless card ?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> i didnt know nvidia made sound cards
[03:07] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:07] <D[a] > requires internet eh?
[03:07] <D[a] > what if i download madwifi
[03:07] <D[a] > willl that help?
[03:08] <shiv> is it possible to move the cursor to default button as in windows mouse controls?
[03:08] <trincamckee> i there
[03:08] <sbalneav> and how are you going to download it onto the box when you just told me there was no way to get ndiswrappers-tools updated?
[03:08] <ithiel_> gnomefreak I've given up on my phone for the time being, wireless still isn't working
[03:08] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:08] <D[a] > through a CD
[03:09] <gnomefreak> wireless in ubuntu?
[03:09] <D[a] > eayea
[03:09] <D[a] > yea
[03:09] <progrock> whats the command to remove a folder and all its contents? (in the terminal)
[03:09] <D[a] > rm -rf
[03:09] <gnomefreak> rm
[03:09] <D[a] > rm -rf directory /file
[03:09] <sbalneav> D[a] : then why not download the ndiswrapper-tools, and put THAT on a cd?
[03:09] <NChief^^> I have wirekess in ubuntu :)
[03:09] <D[a] > sbalneav true.
[03:09] <trincamckee> does anyone knows a app like checkinstall, but doesnt install the package? i just want to build the package...
[03:09] <progrock> thankyou
[03:09] <sbalneav> Jeeepers.
[03:10] <D[a] > ndiswrapper-1.10.tar.gz
[03:10] <D[a] > that'd probably work
[03:10] <D[a] > eh?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> trincamckee: there maybe parameters that will do that i dont know ive always used checkinstall to install the package
[03:10] <sbalneav> You'll probably want to get the .deb from the repository.
[03:10] <sbalneav> Does the WIRED machine you're on have ubuntu on it now?
[03:11] <trincamckee> that would be nice
[03:11] <trincamckee> i dont know any flags
[03:11] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:11] <D[a] > no pc's in my house are wired
[03:11] <gnomefreak> http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/index.php
[03:11] <Celeste> Please tell me how can I enable transparenxy in Xorg for Ubuntu?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> trincamckee: also man checkinstall is helpful
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ^^^try that site
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Celeste: terminal?
[03:12] <sbalneav> D[a] : this is in your house, and you're telling me you can't move the box next to the wireless router to plug it in?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> or all windows?
[03:12] <trincamckee> ok gnomefreak tanks for the tip
[03:12] <frank__> can somebody please let me know how to activate universal
[03:12] <Celeste> gnomefreak, no for the gDesklets StarterBar
[03:12] <wastrel> !tell frank__ about universe
[03:12] <overrider> i am printing to a network printer using cups it seems, doesnt it need a printcap file in /etc/ ? or is that file not required?
[03:12] <Celeste> gnomefreak, I heard I must find composit in the Xorg.conf  but it is not in it
[03:12] <ithiel_> gnomefreak:  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=off RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Celeste: you got me there i cant even get my applets to work right :(
[03:12] <basbryan> ubotu: tell frank__ about universe
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ty basbryan
[03:13] <ithiel_> that's the displayed settings from iwconfig, and I cannot seem to set my settings, what's going on?
[03:13] <soundray> overrider: cups does it without one of those
[03:13] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, what do you do when a usb device wont unmount ?
[03:13] <soundray> WebLOCH: wait, it's probably still writing data.
[03:13] <WebLOCH> soundray, its been ages and i never started writing data to it
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ithiel_ about -wireless
[03:14] <Josh43> hey, anyone here have a psp that they do homebrew stuff with?
[03:14] <perry> weblock: pull the plug :p
[03:14] <soundray> WebLOCH: perhaps it's still the pwd on some terminal you have open?
[03:14] <WebLOCH> perry, i did
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ithiel_ about wireless
[03:14] <perry> WebLOCH: what type of device?
[03:14] <WebLOCH> soundray, nope closed everything first, and its def not open now
[03:14] <ithiel_> gnomefreak: don't waste my time with automated tripe. I'm a regular user here (adriyel), and I've exhausted all conventional methods including ubotu, thank you
[03:14] <WebLOCH> perry, its a sd card
[03:15] <perry> WebLOCH: i still have windoze on my machine at work because itunes is more reliable than gtkpod :P
[03:15] <gnomefreak> almost like i was supposed to know?
[03:15] <perry> WebLOCH: shouldn't be too big an issue :P
[03:15] <Extreme_Unction> sh
[03:15] <WebLOCH> perry, i simply chose not to buy a stupid mp3player hoho
[03:15] <perry> ipods seem to be a bit mpre finicky :P
[03:15] <khafra> If I'm using firefox 32 bit in AMD64 Ubuntu, can I use the AMD64 Mplayer as a plugin?
[03:15] <soundray> gnomefreak: what a pita... tg he's gone.
[03:15] <Josh43> itheil_; Calm down.. if you've been here so long, you know that 99% of questions are answered with standard rtfm stuff
[03:15] <gnomefreak> khafra: not sure but i doubt it
[03:15] <perry> heh...i ride the bus and its better to have an ipod than listen to someone else's inane cell phone conversation :P
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Josh43: hes gone
[03:15] <Extreme_Unction> Rejoice! For there are Kubuntu repositories for KDE 3.5.1!
[03:16] <WebLOCH> perry, i meant i chose to buy a decent one :P  not some fashion pimp rubbish
[03:16] <Josh43> lol - my syntax is all funny - didn't see it
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Extreme_Unction: yes you can get that from kubuntu.org or .com or whatever the site is
[03:16] <perry> my mom got it for me :P
[03:16] <perry> well, mother in law :P
[03:16] <WebLOCH> perry, fair play then haha
[03:16] <ithiel> back
[03:16] <perry> besides, we got lots of windows boxes at work
[03:16] <theshibboleth> Could someone help me? The video on 3d games works, but the audio doesn't
[03:16] <khafra> gnomefreak: Thanks, guess I'll go 32.  Or maybe both--would there be a conflict with two versions of mplayer?
[03:17] <perry> and my bosses get to keep me in free music
[03:17] <progrock> i installed gaim 2.0 beta 1 by mistake.. and now when i try to install beta 2 it errors.. i think something with the docs
[03:17] <gnomefreak> khafra: my personal opion is stick with 32 all the apps run easier on it
[03:17] <Luke> my ipod doesnt automount when i plug it in - what should I do?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> progrock: uninstall beta1
[03:17] <khafra> gnomefreak: Aha, thanks.
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Luke: what ipod app are you using?
[03:17] <progrock> gnomefreak, yeah.. first thing i did was that
[03:17] <gnomefreak> khafra: yw
[03:18] <Luke> gnomefreak: it doesnt even mount
[03:18] <wastrel> jazzy
[03:18] <soundray> ithiel: I'm here to help people. So is gnomefreak, as far as I can tell. Now would you please consider assuming manners that make it easy, rather than difficult, to help?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> progrock: what type of errors are you gettting?
[03:18] <Jeff1f> Anyone know why my ubuntu machine would keep ARPing non stop?
[03:18] <shiv> what is the Program Files folder equivalent in Linux?
[03:18] <progrock> gnomefreak, 1 sec.. let me try again so i can get the erros
[03:18] <gnomefreak> btw gaim2.0 is a pita to install on dapper so please tell me your running breezy
[03:19] <Josh43> shiv; /usr/bin, usually
[03:19] <Amaranth> shiv: /usr/bin, i guess
[03:19] <wastrel> Jeff1f:  something else on your network asking it to?
[03:19] <shiv> thanks
[03:19] <progrock> breezy.. yes.. ive done it before... only reason its erroring is becase i installed beta1 first by mistake
[03:19] <Celeste> I restart X
[03:19] <Josh43> :P
[03:19] <wastrel> Jeff1f:  no idea really :]
[03:19] <Krillancello> Okay... so does anyone know a way to install JUST X and Gnome after doing the Ubuntu server install?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> progrock: how did you uninstall it? with dpkg or with apt?
[03:19] <burden> Could anyone reccomend a GUI compiler, preferably has syntax highlighting?
[03:20] <Jeff1f> Maybe it's that dang wiflyer router
[03:20] <progrock> gnomefreak, dpkg... since i installed it with checkinstall
[03:20] <wastrel> burden:  what language?
[03:20] <burden> C++, sorry forgot to add that part.
[03:20] <gnomefreak> burden: the compiler doesnt do syntex highlighting its the ide that does it
[03:20] <gnomefreak> burden: use anjuta
[03:20] <wastrel> i was going to say anjuta :[
[03:21] <gnomefreak> its got all good things :)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> and easy to play with
[03:21] <progrock> vim! lol.. screw ajunta, lol
[03:21] <Krillancello> wastrel: Teh win goes to the quick of mind.
[03:21] <progrock> steeper learnign curve tho
[03:21] <gnomefreak> progrock: im not sure than dpkg should have gotten rid of it all (did you get rid of the tar by chance and the files that were unpacked?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> vim-gui is nice :)
[03:22] <soundray> Krillancello: gnome-core and xserver-xorg-core should give you a pretty minimal configuration.
[03:22] <progrock> gnomefreak, yeah.. i deleted everything... 1 sec.. almsot up to the point where i get the error... make takes some time for gaim
[03:22] <gnomefreak> sorry its gvim
[03:22] <progrock> vim-gnome is the package actually
[03:22] <samoftheday> bleh im back my net went schizo
[03:22] <gnomefreak> progrock: no its a graphical vim
[03:23] <Krillancello> soundray: Everyone's been saying x-window-system-core; can you tell me the difference between it and xserver-xorg-core?
[03:23] <samoftheday> ok my prob was with gettin the ubuntu live to boot...
[03:23] <soundray> Krillancello: have you considered xubuntu-desktop for small footprint?
[03:23] <progrock> gnomefreak, i know... the apt-get install is vim-gnome for gvim
[03:23] <basbryan> samoftheday: really?
[03:23] <progrock> !pastebin
[03:23] <Krillancello> soundray: What is Xubuntu, exactly?
[03:23] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:23] <gnomefreak> !xubuntu
[03:24] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:24] <samoftheday> it would seem like it was booting then get stuck on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!"
[03:24] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:24] <perry> and it will run on an xbox
[03:24] <perry> as opposed to ps2buntu
[03:24] <D[a] > ewwwwwwwwww
[03:24] <D[a] > its hard
[03:24] <soundray> Krillancello: I actually meant x-window-system-core. Compare the packages with 'apt-cache depends ...'
[03:24] <wastrel> Krillancello:  dunno - check the package info/depends on  packages.ubuntu.com  mebby
[03:25] <wastrel> h8n teh lunix
[03:25] <perry> actually, i was wondering
[03:25] <gleesond> does anyone know about dirvers for asus motherboards? I'm trying to get my gigbit nic to work properly. for some reasion the way it is now, my routers webpages won't load all the way
[03:25] <perry> my workplace has draconian proxy filtering rules...i can't use synaptic at work
[03:25] <perry> i think its because its trying to check so many archives more or less simultaneously
[03:25] <Josh43> perry: ssh tunnel ;P
[03:26] <perry> Josh43: how would i do that?
[03:26] <yuan> ?
[03:26] <gleesond> asus!
[03:26] <jrsims> Query! Does anyone know of any good open-source flow-charting / diagramming tools?
[03:26] <samoftheday> anyone have any ideas why its doing that?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> its called vim-gtk
[03:26] <Krillancello> I don't want to use Xubuntu if it uses XFCE... I'm not in the mood to learn how to configure a different desktop system the way I like.
[03:26] <perry> and if their rules are that draconian, couldn't they block me from tunneling?
[03:26] <progrock> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9652
[03:26] <majd> how do i open a directory with sudo?
[03:26] <sbalneav> D[a] : What's hard?
[03:26] <yuan> exit
[03:26] <perry> sudo cd /blah/blah
[03:26] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:26] <wastrel> jrsims:  dia mebby
[03:26] <perry> enter password :P
[03:26] <D[a] > wireless
[03:26] <D[a] > its like 60 steps
[03:26] <D[a] > rofl
[03:27] <D[a] > anyway, gonna go give it a shot~
[03:27] <wastrel> jrsims:  for stuff like that i tend to search freshmeat, then check if it's available in apt
[03:27] <Josh43> perry: there is always a way.. I have the entire thing locked down, but I portscanned my own machine and found one port: 23.. set the home ssh server to port 23; tunnel all day long :)
[03:27] <majd> perry, sudo: cd: command not found
[03:27] <jrsims> wastrel: k
[03:27] <wastrel> D[a] :  could you stop hitting enter after every 2nd word please
[03:27] <perry> majd: !
[03:27] <Krillancello> soundray: It seems to me "apt-get depends" will only compare dependencies; I was more interested in the comparison as far as what they provide and/or do.
[03:27] <majd> perry, huh?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> progrock: thats the same thing mine did and i worked on it for 2 weeks everyday and still no luck and btw i dont think you can use checkinstall with it
[03:27] <sbalneav> D[a] : That's because wireless manufacturers don't publish any of their flipping specs, so people can't write *REAL* drivers.
[03:28] <perry> majd: that's a first for me...
[03:28] <wastrel> perry:  sudo cd doesn't work - cd is a bash builtin
[03:28] <soundray> Krillancello: well, that is what they do: they provide dependencies.
[03:28] <majd> majd@ubuntu:~$ sudo cd /var/www/
[03:28] <majd> .that's what i'm using
[03:28] <samoftheday> im having problems booting ubuntu live on my computer
[03:28] <perry> i see
[03:28] <sbalneav> If you've got the right wireless card (very few), then everything "just works".
[03:28] <gnomefreak> majd: sudo nautilus
[03:28] <wastrel> majd:  sudo ls  will show you what's in there - just use the full path. or you can sudo -i  to drop into a root shell
[03:28] <perry> or activate root and just su then do it :P
[03:28] <gnomefreak> that will give you sudo privledges with the nautilus gui
[03:28] <soundray> Krillancello: if you enter 'dpkg -L x-window-system-core' you will see that it provides minimal package content.
[03:28] <Krillancello> soundray: I just wanted to find out if they do anything specifically different, which would influence my decision.
[03:29] <gnomefreak> maybe use gksudo instead of sudo
[03:29] <Kr4t05> D[a] : Plainly put: ndiswrapper is your best option.
[03:29] <perry> i put the listtle script thingie in from the starter guide
[03:29] <Krillancello> If they provide the same functionality, then I don't really have a reason to have a preference.
[03:29] <perry> i can open as root from nautilus :P~~
[03:29] <progrock> gnomefreak,  i dknow i dont have to... its just what the wiki said.
[03:29] <progrock> gnomefreak, but i have had it work for me before.. so it has to be somethign beta1 screwed up
[03:29] <Wammy|> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device
[03:30] <Krillancello> soundray: By the way, dpkg -L doesn't seem to work.
[03:30] <tritium> Krillancello: how are you using it?
[03:30] <Krillancello> Oh, wait. Haha.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> progrock: i had beta 1 on breezy working tried beta2 on daper adn no luck what so ever i never tried beta2 on breezy but i think its the package not your system
[03:30] <Krillancello> It says the package isn't installed.
[03:30] <Krillancello> So that's why. >_>;
[03:30] <tritium> definitely
[03:30] <perry> hey josh, you still there?
[03:31] <Josh43> Yeah
[03:31] <gnomefreak> night all see you in morning
[03:31] <Krillancello> There's no point in using dpkg -L to compare the two if I have to install the package before dpkg -L will work.
[03:31] <samoftheday> ubuntu live would seem like it was booting then get stuck on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" any help appreciated :D
[03:31] <perry> Josh43: would you mind pointing me towards a decent tutorial for setting up ssh so i can do my thing at work?
[03:31] <soundray> Krillancello: these core packages are minimum. You won't be able to run X or gnome properly without them. Hence the appendix -core.
[03:31] <Madpilot> !tell perry about ssh
[03:31] <_JECKEL_> hi all
[03:31] <Josh43> perry; You have the ubuntu box @ home?
[03:31] <_JECKEL_> just a quick question
[03:31] <perry> Josh43: or helping me get it setup
[03:32] <perry> on it right now
[03:32] <_JECKEL_> whats a good virus scanner?
[03:32] <Krillancello> soundray: My question was whether x-window-system-core or xserver-xorg-core differ in some way that would cause me to have a reason to prefer one over the other.
[03:32] <dotslashroot> What file do you edit to turn off encryption on a wifi card?
[03:32] <perry> aegis
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Does someone wanna help me make twinview work?
[03:32] <Josh43> perry; Something tells me it's going to be an involved process for you, but I will get you in the right direction
[03:32] <perry> Josh43: thanks :)
[03:32] <_JECKEL_> are you sure aegis is that good though?
[03:32] <tritium> Kr4t05: did you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/?
[03:32] <perry> krischan: look up a posting made by perryub on linuquestions.org
[03:32] <Krillancello> If they are similar enough for there to be no need for a personal preference, then I'll probably just pick whichever one's name I prefer. ;P
[03:33] <perry> kr4 rather
[03:33] <soundray> Krillancello: and my answer was, you will need them both anyway. So the question doesn't make sense.
[03:33] <Kr4t05> tritium: Er... I followed the HOW-TO in the forums.
[03:33] <Josh43> perry, Step 1: Turn on something on your home pc that lets you find out every port someone is hitting; I did it with the router, but that's tricky.. some sort of honeypot would work
[03:33] <tritium> Kr4t05: check out the docs, then
[03:33] <Krillancello> soundray: Well, I didn't see that among your responses.
[03:33] <_JECKEL_> we talking about firewalls and stuff?
[03:33] <perry> would nessus do?
[03:34] <Josh43> perry, Step 2: Run a port scanner from work on your home machine; let it do all 65k ports
[03:34] <rupan3> anyone know a resource for escape codes (like
[03:34] <perry> that;s kinda funny :P
[03:34] <_JECKEL_> what about just going to shieldsup.com
[03:34] <Josh43> perry, Dunno about nessus.. stopped doing active hacking a few years ago
[03:34] <rupan3> oops.. anyway, like \n ... i just don't know their proper name so searching on google isn't yielding very good results
[03:34] <_JECKEL_> or.... .net or something
[03:34] <_JECKEL_> forgot the exact thing
[03:35] <Josh43> _JECKEL_, Trying to work through a work firewall, so need to test between workj and home, not shieldsup and home
[03:35] <Kr4t05> tritium: Oh...
[03:35] <Kr4t05> tritium: Gotcha
[03:35] <_JECKEL_> oh lol
[03:35] <Josh43> perry, Step 3: Go home, collect the logs - see what came through
[03:35] <Kr4t05> blech
[03:35] <_JECKEL_> hmmm...
[03:36] <Josh43> perry, Step 4: Set up the ssh server on that port, and make sure you set it to allow tunnelling (check the ubuntuforums or wiki)
[03:36] <_JECKEL_> I had a problem with trying to let a friend connect to me so they could play a MUD I was developing
[03:36] <crouchingMonkey> i dont have .avi playback and i installed the codecs, ne ideas why
[03:36] <Josh43> perry, Step 5: Use Putty from work to ssh tunnel through your home connection :)
[03:36] <glitch13> anyone familiar with an install error where the install hangs at 0% on "installing the 'grub' package"?
[03:36] <shiv> where do u look for the city location codes for weather desklets
[03:36] <D[a] > FUCK IT.
[03:36] <shiv> got it
[03:36] <shiv> thanks
[03:36] <perry> hrmmmmmmmm
[03:36] <Installer36> Shiv Where is it
[03:37] <Josh43> fuck what, I wonder?
[03:37] <Kr4t05> rofl
[03:37] <perry> jambon...that's kind of a funny nick
[03:37] <perry> *OINK*
[03:37] <samoftheday> ubuntu live would seem like it was booting then hang on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!"  XD
[03:37] <soundray> Josh43: wireless setup I think.
[03:37] <dotslashroot> lol
[03:37] <Jambon> perry: yes
[03:37] <shiv> I thought it was something more complicated
[03:37] <Installer36> Thanks
[03:37] <Jambon> oink
[03:37] <Installer36> Me too
[03:37] <Kr4t05> ham...
[03:37] <Kr4t05> LMAO
[03:37] <spazzz> Evening folks.  I was wondering if anyone could help me with an Ubuntu Screen Issue
[03:37] <Kr4t05> french joke...
[03:37] <perry> Josh43: thanks, i'll give it a go
[03:37] <Josh43> soundray, Ahh.. need patience of confucious for some wireless setups ;)
[03:38] <rupan3> anyone know escape codes? like \n ? anyone know the one for backspace? when i write to this file with \n it writes a space to the beginning of the next line.. and the program that the output is for won't read it.
[03:38] <Josh43> perry, Hope it works out and you learn a bunch :)
[03:38] <spazzz> I need to find a screen frequency and refresh that the card will accept without going haywire
[03:38] <rupan3> spazzz: check the back of the monitor
[03:38] <soundray> Josh43: yeah, or patience until 20 April ;)
[03:38] <perry> me too :)
[03:38] <rupan3> spazzz:  there's probably a sticker with that info on it
[03:38] <spazzz> rupan3: Well heres the rub.  Im not using a moniter
[03:38] <Jambon> anyway, is easyubuntu for dapper, or only for breezy? same question with plf repo: breezy specific or dapper compatible?
[03:38] <rupan3> spazzz: using a tv?
[03:39] <Kr4t05> Is Dapper going to have TwinView?
[03:39] <perry> oscilloscope?
[03:39] <spazzz> rupan3 Yeap... Though an SVIDEO connection.  Im trying to build a MythTV box
[03:39] <perry> ipod?
[03:39] <rupan3> ooo slick
[03:39] <Kr4t05> I'm sick of xorg being queer.
[03:39] <Josh43> soundray, I know - can't wait.. esp after booting flight 4.. yikes it's good
[03:39] <rupan3> i'd be interested to hear how that turns out, spazzz
[03:39] <Madpilot> Jambon, EasyUbuntu is probably still Breezy-only at this point - no idea about the PLF repo
[03:40] <Kr4t05> >>
[03:40] <Kr4t05> <<
[03:40] <glitch13> so, no one's had the install freeze at the grub install...
[03:40] <Kr4t05> Nah.
[03:40] <Krillancello> If I were to type !<package-name> in here, Ubotu would describe the package, correct?
[03:40] <soundray> Kr4t05: Twinview is a feature of Nvidia cards and drivers. Nothing to do with dapper.
[03:40] <_JECKEL_> !wine
[03:40] <Jambon> Madpilot: so no real point in trying to install it to dapper....great. so what repo holds w32codecs and such?
[03:40] <Kr4t05> soundray: Oh, yeah.
[03:40] <samisad0rk> ubuntu live 64 isnt wanting to boot for me
[03:40] <Kr4t05> head*
[03:40] <Kr4t05> @.@
[03:40] <_JECKEL_> yep
[03:40] <soundray> Josh43: I couldn't stop myself -- I've dist-upgraded.
[03:41] <Madpilot> Jambon, AFAIK the RestrictedFormats stuff still works in Dapper - but try #ubuntu+1, that's the Dapper channel
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[03:41] <Madpilot> !tell Jambon about restricted
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> a new ubuntu is out?
[03:41] <farous> soundray: how is it going with the upgrade sofar
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> the one after breezy badger?
[03:41] <Josh43> soundray, lol.. I was tempted.. but I'm going to format the day of :)
[03:41] <spazzz> rupan3: I'll tell you all about it.  But before I can get it running I need to figure out how to get it to display.  I tried running the live cd and everything works fine until it runs XORG.
[03:41] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, still in testing - it'll be out in mid-april
[03:41] <Vylar1978> Hello
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> ah ok cool
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> what will it offer?
[03:41] <Vylar1978> I have a question? I hope some one can help
[03:42] <perry> new packages
[03:42] <perry> a different login screen
[03:42] <samisad0rk> :'( i really wish i could get this to work
[03:42] <KillerKiwi2006> Vylar1978: ask
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> lol
[03:42] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, all sorts of new shininess :P
[03:42] <Josh43> _JECKEL_, Mind blowing realism ;)
[03:42] <Vylar1978> I can't get my ubuntu online it won't take my modem
[03:42] <soundray> farous: some things are really nice and fast -- esp. firefox. Others don't work at all - swf plugin, openoffice...
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> lol
[03:42] <perry> updated backgrounds
[03:42] <Madpilot> !dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[03:42] <rupan3> Vylar1978: got a winmodem?
[03:42] <perry> Vylar1978: is it a winmodem?
[03:42] <Josh43> _JECKEL_, The answer to all your desires
[03:42] <rupan3> hehe
[03:42] <CineFX3D_> wtf, why won't breezey installation accept 'satori' as my hostname?
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> ok
[03:42] <soundray> farous: mind you, this is with the extra challenge of being an amd64 system.
[03:42] <perry> because its an anagram of "as i rot"?
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> it accepted hell as mine >_>
[03:43] <farous> soundray: i found ndiswrapper is hell with dapper. noticed the speed in firefox though am running 1.501 on breezy
[03:43] <Josh43> CineFX3D_, Another Satori exists on your subnet?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> It is the Robotics modem
[03:43] <farous> soundray: goodluck that is not an easy one
[03:43] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4 and /DapperFlight5 for the lastest Dapper news
[03:43] <CineFX3D_> perry: har har
[03:43] <wastrel> usrobotics eh
[03:43] <rupan3> CineFX3D_: i recognize that.. whats that from?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> 5610 B
[03:43] <wastrel> i used to have one of those
[03:43] <spazzz> So does anyone know what I can do?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> Us Robotics
[03:43] <perry> rupan3: that asian porn dvd you bought?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> Modem
[03:43] <perry> :P
[03:43] <CineFX3D_> rupan3: satori?
[03:43] <perry> Vylar1978: it is a controllerless modem?
[03:44] <perry> check out linmodems.org for more info
[03:44] <perry> i'm still looking for a decent non-linmodem on ebay
[03:44] <soundray> farous: thanks. So far I am pleased with dapper, but also pleased that I waited for a quiet period at work...
[03:44] <perry> i want to set up my old 386 as a voicemail server :P
[03:44] <Vylar1978> ok thanks you
[03:44] <bluefoxicy> startkeylogger
[03:44] <soundray> perry: the old mgetty...
[03:44] <perry> vgetty baby
[03:45] <wastrel> they should start banning people who do that
[03:45] <samisad0rk> could someone please help me if possible, im having probs gettin ubuntu live 64 to boot
[03:45] <Vylar1978> How do you know if it is controllerless ornot
[03:45] <perry> vykar: download scanmodem and let it tell you
[03:45] <perry> :)
[03:45] <perry> sampan: can't help you dude
[03:46] <perry> if you were to let me borrow a 64 bit processor or two, i would gratefully test things out for you
[03:46] <torpedo|dog> Is there a good way to resize an extended partition that has your swap on it?
[03:46] <mdmkolbe> is it possible to logon to the root user with ubuntu?
[03:46] <perry> mdmkolbe: yes
[03:46] <spazzz> Does anybody know how I can get Ubuntu's XORG to work correctly with a television screen?
[03:46] <farous> !tell mdmkolbe about root
[03:46] <NoelJB> Can anyone provide a quick process for where to modify the desktop (right-click, aka context) menu?
[03:46] <perry> you have to set a root password though
[03:46] <Madpilot> mdmkolbe, use sudo & your own user pw instead
[03:46] <Madpilot> perry, you don't need one
[03:46] <torpedo|dog> spazzz, is your gfx card ATI
[03:47] <torpedo|dog> ?
[03:47] <samisad0rk> could someone please help me if possible, im having probs gettin ubuntu live 64 to boot
[03:47] <perry> madewokherd: no, but that wasn't his question
[03:47] <perry> :P
[03:47] <perry> madpilot even
[03:47] <madewokherd> stop it
[03:47] <perry> damned autocompletion sucks :P
[03:47] <madewokherd> get better nick completers
[03:47] <Belboz99> Hey, is it OK to fsck a mounted partition if you're in Recovery mode?
[03:47] <perry> or just turn the feature off :P
[03:47] <perry> bitchx
[03:47] <IdleOne> !enter
[03:47] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:47] <perry> all you need to do is ask
[03:47] <perry> :P
[03:47] <spazzz> torpedo|dog: It might be I honestly don't know for sure.   nicks here right now. I should op up and kick the rest of them... (joking!)
[03:47] <madewokherd> ctcps are easier
[03:47] <torpedo|dog> Ah
[03:47] <madewokherd> because I don't have to form a sentence
[03:48] <samisad0rk> ok im trying to boot ubuntu live 64 <perry> updated backgrounds
 !dapper
 from memory, dapper is pre-release name for ne
[03:48] <perry> what version? 13 characters
[03:48] <samisad0rk> woops..... didnt mean to do that however it did that lol
[03:48] <madewokherd> well, if the nick completer was smarter, this wouldn't be a problem
[03:48] <perry> ctcp version perry = more character :P
[03:48] <madewokherd> but I don't know any good ones for bitchx
[03:49] <torpedo|dog> spazzz, so it's an old card?
[03:49] <torpedo|dog> You might want to figure out a model and ask on the forums, since it seems a little bit too involved for IRC ;)
[03:49] <CineFX3D_> stupid question.. boot partition should be primary and swap and home logical?
[03:49] <madewokherd> I'm not sure if irssi's is smart or not..
[03:49] <perry> heh
[03:50] <AngryElf> hey all, some progress on compiling my kernel....now i'm getting:   Ext3-fs cannot read superblock....kernel panic..........is there some other module i've forgotten to compile in with the kernel??  thanx
[03:50] <spazzz> torpedo|dog: Not horribly old.  Probobly 5 years max.  More likely 2 or 3
[03:50] <Vylar1978> were do I get the gz  at for compression
[03:50] <samisad0rk> ok im trying to boot ubuntu live 64 and it starts to boot and hangs on the message "kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" ... maybe this is worded a little better
[03:50] <farous> madewokherd: what do you mean by smart.  people should choose easier short names
[03:50] <soundray> CineFX3D_: it doesn't matter.
[03:50] <madewokherd> in particular I mean they complete based on who has spoken recently
[03:50] <madewokherd> it would pick me last because I hadn't spoken before
[03:51] <CineFX3D_> etx2 or ext3? :)
[03:51] <wastrel> hi
[03:51] <xfce> hello wastrel
[03:51] <farous> seank follow ubotu link there is a link to where you can download it
[03:51] <farous> mm wrong room
[03:51] <soundray> samisad0rk: this may be a hardware problem, or a general incompatibility. Check your memory with the memtest kernel (should be a boot option).
[03:51] <perry> well, shorter names tend to fill up quickly
[03:51] <soundray> CineFX3D_: ext3.
[03:52] <CineFX3D_> thanks
[03:52] <perry> kinda like if there were only 4 characters in a nick, the # of possible nicks would be too small :)
[03:52] <wastrel> nobody likes a know-it-all
[03:52] <perry> especially when they're dumb like me :P
[03:52] <perry> i'm not a know it all, i just play one on irc
[03:53] <soundray> perry, yeah, roughly 4^127, not a lot...
[03:53] <_JECKEL_> I can't get Aegis into my applications menu
[03:53] <soundray> perry: or was it the other way round?
[03:53] <Vylar1978> were can I get a compression file like winzip or Rar for linux
[03:53] <madewokherd> 4**127 =><PHONE_NUMBER>9329048855892746252171976963317496166410141009864396001978282409984L
[03:53] <_JECKEL_> even when I check it on my application menu editor
[03:53] <madewokherd> and there aren't 127 valid nick characters
[03:53] <perry> if i knew it all, i wouldn't have trouble getting synaptic to work when i was at work
# X: im not only a server, im also a client
[03:53] <perry> alphanumeric character?
[03:53] <madewokherd> it's more like 40
[03:53] <soundray> madewokherd: ;) something wrong with my formula then.
[03:54] <Engla> Vylar1978: there is already the Archive Manager, it does zip but not rar
[03:54] <perry> 26 letters + 0-9
[03:54] <rupan3> Vylar1978: you have to look in the multiverse repository
[03:54] <perry> maybe some brackets, etc
[03:54] <Engla> Vylar1978: you have to use synaptic to install an unrar tool
[03:54] <soundray> perry: case sensitive - additional 26
[03:54] <madewokherd> and _\{}-
[03:54] <CineFX3D_> Vylar1978: or automatix
[03:54] <madewokherd> it's not case sensitive
[03:54] <Vylar1978> well it is for the linmodem scan modem
[03:54] <perry> soundray: no
[03:54] <rupan3> Vylar1978: there's unrar-free but i don't think there's a rar-free
[03:54] <wastrel> !automatix
[03:54] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:54] <Vylar1978> I am not sure what it is on
[03:54] <perry> AAAA = aaaa
[03:54] <perry> at least as far as irc is concerned :P
[03:54] <madewokherd> network.isupport['CASEMAPPING']  => 'ascii'
[03:54] <madewokherd> that means we get []  too
[03:55] <perry> as i said
[03:55] <farous> hm i think this is better for offtopic guys lets keep the channel for support
[03:55] <xfce> +o
[03:55] <Vylar1978> How do I get to commandline on ubuntu
[03:55] <perry> tru nuff
[03:55] <madewokherd> 32*42**3 => 2370816
[03:55] <javiolo> anyone here has a imap account ? Is there any way to create filters to move mail to specific folders ?
[03:55] <rupan3> Vylar1978: hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
[03:55] <CineFX3D_> I didn't know automatix is risky business
[03:55] <perry> Vylar1978: apps accessories terminal
[03:55] <rupan3> Vylar1978: or run a terminal emulator
[03:55] <wastrel> javiolo:  that would be procmail's job i think.
[03:55] <seraphim> nice tip rupan3. now try to tell him how to come back :D
[03:56] <rupan3> haha
[03:56] <perry> hehehe
[03:56] <wastrel> javiolo:  my mail goes thru fetchmail -> procmail -> imap
[03:56] <perry> he didnt ask
[03:56] <perry> :P
[03:56] <samisad0rk> thanks soundray, i will try that now :)
[03:56] <rupan3> Vylar1978: ctrl-alt-F1 thru f6 are consoles, and ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back to the gui
[03:56] <spazzz> Ok.. I guess no one here can help me
[03:56] <rupan3> haha
[03:56] <rupan3> seraphim: good call lol
[03:56] <soundray> CineFX3D_: in the hand of a knowledgeable user, it isn't necessarily risky. Problem is, it's intended to help newbies...
[03:57] <rupan3> seraphim: you know what \n is ? the name for those symbols?
[03:57] <soundray> spazzz: I think your kind of problem requires a web search. Sorry.
[03:57] <javiolo> wastrel Im using evolution, I created the filters but dont work, all the mail is in the inbox
[03:57] <CineFX3D_> I know, that's why I use it.. I really am new to linux, and don't have much time to explore it as I need it to run right now :/ It helped me though
[03:57] <LinuxJones> spazzz: what's wrong ?
[03:57] <seraphim> no
[03:57] <rupan3> i'm trying to google up a list but i don't know they're proper name
[03:57] <spazzz> soundray: I do the websearch before I come here.  If it was something that simple I would have solved it myself by now
[03:58] <rupan3> escape codes or something
[03:58] <NoelJB> So should I take it that no one knows how to modify the Gnome desktop context menu?
[03:58] <perry> escape sequence
[03:58] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Im trying to build a myth TV box and the stupid XORG won't play nice with my TV.
[03:58] <rupan3> perry: you rule. thanks man
[03:58] <dooglus> rupan3: before suggesting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to anyone make sure you tell them about Alt-F7 to get back here...
[03:58] <Engla> NoelJB: what do you you want to do with it?
[03:58] <soundray> spazzz: I didn't mean this in a critical or derogative way. Sorry if it came across like that.
[03:58] <perry> ack
[03:58] <bungrudi> is OOo2 package for ubuntu available already?
[03:58] <dooglus> rupan3: otherwise they'll possibly lose all the documents they were working on, thinking their PC crashed.
[03:58] <Madpilot> NoelJB, Gnome's own documentation is pretty good - Have you asked Google yet?
[03:58] <javiolo> wastrel using fetchmail + procmail isnt that too complicated ?
[03:58] <perry> http://www.cppreference.com/escape_sequences.html
[03:59] <seraphim> and then they will blame linux
[03:59] <NoelJB> Engla: I want to add entries to it, e.g., an Open Terminal entry.
[03:59] <soundray> spazzz: but your best chance is really to find someone who has your card, got the TVout working, and has written about it.
[03:59] <rupan3> dooglus: yeah i figured that, now. didn't think of it
[03:59] <Madpilot> NoelJB, to get an open-terminal entry, install nautilus-open-terminal
[03:59] <rupan3> perry: you rock my socks. thanks, brudda :)
[03:59] <Amaranth> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[03:59] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[03:59] <perry> rupan3: don't tell my wife ;)
[03:59] <perry> she'll divorce me
[03:59] <perry> take all my dough
[03:59] <rupan3> lol
[03:59] <antD> boo
[03:59] <Madpilot> rupan3, it's even easier to just tell people where gnome-terminal is...
[03:59] <Engla> NoelJB: you can use nautilus scripts to do that. Or install 'nautilus-actions' that can do that and lots more
[04:00] <NoelJB> So there is no way to otherwise modify the menu?
[04:00] <spazzz> Soundray: I've looked.  No one seems to have tried this.  It works fine in windows from the get go.   I think i've had knoppix running on this before.  I don't understand why Ubuntu has to always be a pain about screen issues
[04:00] <CineFX3D_> how about total commander replacement on linux.. but not mc? :)
[04:00] <bungrudi> is OOo2 package for ubuntu available already?
[04:00] <LinuxJones> spazzz: mythtv is not supported as part of the core Ubuntu install so getting will be spotty on something like that. There might be a mythtv channel here on freenode  ?
[04:00] <farous> Amaranth: i was always wondering why nautilus open terminal is not installed by default ?
[04:00] <Engla> NoelJB: search for those two terms and you'll find something
[04:00] <NoelJB> Engla: OK.  FWIW, preferences:/// and applications:/// appear to be broken in the ubuntu distro of nautilus.
[04:00] <rupan3> yep
[04:00] <Belboz99> hey, is it OK to fsck a mounted partition in recovery mode?
[04:00] <perry> stupid question
[04:00] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Im not even to the mythTV part so the fact it isn't supported is immaterial
[04:01] <bungrudi> hm.. found it
[04:01] <Amaranth> farous: because normal users should never have to use the terminal
[04:01] <soundray> spazzz: if it worked in Knoppix, you could copy the generated XF86Config-4 over and use it to guide your xorg setup.
[04:01] <Amaranth> farous: if they do, someone is broken
[04:01] <perry> on my linux desktop, i installed kde-base and other kde  packages...i eventually got it rid of it because i thought it was cluttered
[04:01] <Engla> NoelJB: true. I thought that was something gnome deprecated though
[04:01] <farous> Amaranth: it is in the menus
[04:01] <perry> on my laptop, i'm tempted to install kubuntu packages...will it not have 50,000,000 apps that all do the same thing?
[04:01] <farous> Amaranth: sorry that is the strangest answer i ever heared
[04:01] <NoelJB> Engla: hmmm ... still in the docs distributed with Ubuntu, though.
[04:01] <Jambon> has anyone had firefox automatically open downloads when clicked on, because it used to ask me where to save them, and now it just tries to open them
[04:01] <soundray> spazzz: is a full-featured DVB card not an option?
[04:02] <Amaranth> farous: something, not someone :)
[04:02] <rupan3> perry: i didn't get along with kubuntu
[04:02] <NoelJB> So I should be installing nautilus-open-terminal and nautilus-actions?
[04:02] <spazzz> Soundray: Not untill im satisfied it will do what I want
[04:02] <callan_> How can I make windows go to other workspaces when I drag them to the side of the screen in gnome?
[04:02] <farous> :)
[04:02] <rupan3> rupan3: the regular ubuntu install detected all my hardware.. kubuntu was a LOT of work to get going
[04:02] <perry> case in point: like 15 graphics apps
[04:02] <Amaranth> farous: it's in the menus because we know things are broken and if it wasn't there users would have no way of getting to it
[04:02] <rupan3> err perry: not rupan3:
[04:02] <rupan3> hehe
[04:02] <perry> 18 multimedia parogs
[04:02] <soundray> spazzz: catch22 then.
[04:02] <Engla> NoelJB: you probably only need one of those, but nautilus-actions seems very cool so try it. [it didn't work for me, though]
[04:03] <Belboz99> does anyone know if it's OK to fsck a mounted partition while in recovery mode?
[04:03] <perry> i'm not worried about hardware...just cluttered desktop and everything else
[04:03] <Krillancello> I'm about to do a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-terminal nautilus mozilla-firefox gedit xchat'. I think that should be a good way to start out with a basic setup.
[04:03] <HondaDarrell> does anyone know where I find EasyUbuntu? Is it in universe or does it have a webpage?
[04:03] <Krillancello> O_o
[04:03] <SbCl3> does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?
[04:03] <spazzz> Soundray: I guess i'm just angry because I don't understand why Ubuntu has to be a b**** about Video cards.  Its one of the MAIN THINGS for the OS to support and Ubuntu sucks at it.
[04:03] <dooglus> callan_: you mean "edge flipping"?
[04:03] <spazzz> Which is a shame considering how easy the rest of the system is
[04:03] <callan_> dooglus: I suppose.
[04:03] <Madpilot> !tell HondaDarrell about easyubuntu
[04:04] <dooglus> callan_: you don't want that.  it's too confusing.
[04:04] <perry> !tell perry about easybuntu
[04:04] <spazzz> And im just frustrated because Ubuntu has never just detected the card and ran with it like its supposed too
[04:04] <perry> !tell perry about easyubuntu
[04:04] <tritium> spazzz: tell that to the proprietary video manufacturers.  it's not ubuntu's fault
[04:04] <callan_> dooglus: How can I enable it to test it then?
[04:04] <spazzz> tritium: Bull... Plenty of other Linux Distro's make it work.
[04:04] <NoelJB> Engla: I'll look.  BTW, is `info nautilus-open-terminal" (or nautilus-actions) supposed to work?  Doesn't here.
[04:04] <soundray> spazzz: I don't share your experience. I guess your angle is not a universal one.
[04:04] <tritium> spazzz: no, not bull
[04:05] <Madpilot> NoelJB, the "info" stuff we use here is a command to the bot
[04:05] <SbCl3> does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?
[04:05] <Engla> NoelJB: I don't know.
[04:05] <spazzz> tritium: yess bull this isn't an issue of WIndows working and Linux not... Then you can blame it on the driver makers.  This is an issue of somethign working perfectly fine in one Linux Distro and not in another
[04:05] <dooglus> callan_: I don't think it's possible to enable edge-flipping in GNOME without switching to a different window manager.
[04:05] <Madpilot> NoelJB, just install nautilus-open-terminal - you might have to restart nautilus after installing it
[04:05] <perry> well, its time to get to bed
[04:05] <tritium> spazzz: which video chipset are you referring to?
[04:05] <NoelJB> Madpilot: LOL  that would explain why it didn't work from bash  ;-)
[04:06] <NoelJB> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[04:06] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[04:06] <spazzz> Tritium: Dosen't seem to matter.  I have both ATI and Ubuntu won't run either without SOME kind of issue.
[04:06] <callan_> dooglus: That's a shame, thanks for your help anyway.
[04:06] <Vylar1978> why don't my floppy drive work
[04:06] <NoelJB> !info nautilus-actions
[04:06] <soundray> spazzz: you may be right, and it could be an issue of xorg versus xfree86. In any case, if you still want advice, you are in the right place. If you want to sound off about it, you're not.
[04:06] <tritium> spazzz: ATI is _not_ cooperative with the open source community
[04:06] <spazzz> With my ATI card it wouln't work in anything other than 680x480 or something.  My new NVIDIA did the same
[04:06] <shiv> what program can I use to watch shoutcast TV just like streamtuner?
[04:06] <Engla> NoelJB: that's not a package what I know, I got it from gnomefiles. Hence it didn't work :-(
[04:06] <dooglus> callan_: there's something called 'brightside' which looks promising: http://catmur.co.uk/~ed/main/brightside/
[04:06] <Madpilot> callan_, for edge stuff, there's something called brightside - it's in Ubuntu's repos (I haven't used it, just noticed it)
[04:07] <spazzz> This one works fine untill XORG runs and then scrables the screen all up
[04:07] <CineFX3D_> can I run Krusader under ubuntu/GNOME?
[04:07] <Madpilot> dooglus, heh - great minds, or something :P
[04:07] <NoelJB> Engla: Ah
[04:07] <dooglus> !info brightside
[04:07] <ubotu> brightside: (Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-7ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 97 kB, Installed size: 928 kB
[04:07] <callan_> Thanks.
[04:07] <shiv> what program can I use to watch shoutcast TV just like streamtuner?
[04:07] <Bilange_> great minds think alike or something similar :P
[04:07] <spazzz> soundray: I asked for advise earlier and was told to go google it.  Which i've already done.  Its just frustrating is all
[04:07] <cronik> hello everyone
[04:07] <dooglus> great minds know how to search the repository...
[04:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> spazzz: Which driver are you using?
[04:07] <cronik> i need some help
[04:08] <Krillancello> Brightside? Would that be like run a program if you put your mouse in the upper-left corner or something?
[04:08] <spazzz> Tritium: ATI dosen't matter... Its not just ati and as I said these cards work fine in other disto's.
[04:08] <BioSnorE> shiv: I think xmms has a plugin for that.. I know it handles shoutcase audio np
[04:08] <soundray> spazzz: I gather from your earlier replies that you didn't search for your specific gc model. Correct?
[04:08] <Trinisan> Ques can take a screenshot from the live cd?
[04:08] <dooglus> Krillancello: it looks like it allows you to do <stuff> when the mouse does <stuff> - so you could enable edge-flipping as an example
[04:08] <SbCl3> does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?
[04:08] <shiv> I know audio for fine I was looking for shoutcast TV (video)
[04:09] <spazzz> soundray: Not yet on this one no.  I didn't figure that was even worth it untill I got the system in some kind of usable form.  I can't even boot it like this
[04:09] <Krillancello> dooglus: What is edge-flipping? Making the mouse cursor wrap around from one side to the other?
[04:09] <cronik> i want to install hydra,but my friend tould me i need to add somthing to the packege maneger to be able to get it
[04:09] <Belboz99> okay, can someone at least give me an answer?  ANY answer?    Is it OK to fsck a mounted partition while in recovery mode?
[04:09] <cronik> anyone knows how to do this?
[04:09] <shiv> how do u type my name when you answer me?
[04:09] <kahuna_> Hi. Does anyone know of a console based dvd shrinking program that can do the whole disk, not just a single title?
[04:09] <kahuna_> Belboz99: It's never OK to fsck a mounted partition
[04:09] <seraphim> spazzz: for resolution tra
[04:09] <seraphim> err
[04:09] <Bilange_> Belboz99: if no one answers, its because no one is sure enough of its answers, your not being ignored :) but...
[04:09] <cronik> anyone knows how to do this?
[04:09] <cronik> some help
[04:09] <Vylar1978> How do you get the a drive to work
[04:10] <NoelJB> Madpilot: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal fails, saying that it cannot find the package.
[04:10] <cronik> :)
[04:10] <seraphim> resolution-settings try the vga option at boot
[04:10] <Vylar1978> floppy drive
[04:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Belboz99: No, fscking mounted partitions isn't safe.  I recommend using a livecd.
[04:10] <spazzz> seraphim: for resolution tra?
[04:10] <Trinisan> this is hot, i did prtsc and it took a screenshot, hotness
[04:10] <seraphim> sso you can have a nice high resolution just from the beginning
[04:10] <Madpilot> NoelJB, do you have the Universe repo enabled?
[04:10] <soundray> SbCl3: you will need proprietary software for this. http://www.stuffit.com/unix/
[04:10] <Belboz99> kahuna: thanks for answering, the thing is that it's mounted as "rw, errors=ro",
[04:10] <seraphim> spazzz:  sorry, stepped on enter too early
[04:10] <Bilange_> Belboz99: im not sure of my answer myself, but fscking a partition is necessary once in awhile, reguardless where or how you do it (from recovery mode, from another livecd, or whatever)
[04:11] <soundray> spazzz: no chance to connect a monitor temporarily?
[04:11] <LinuxJones> spazzz: so your problem is xorg output to your tv ?
[04:11] <kahuna_> Belboz99: like PuMpErNiCkLe said, use a livecd if possible. If not use something like tomsrb, then fsck the unmounted partition.
[04:11] <Belboz99> the thing is I'm not sure if recovery has root mounted as ro or rw
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rw
[04:11] <Bilange_> Belboz99: any ways, be sure to read the manpage to be sure you're not going to screw up the partition or its data :S
[04:11] <dooglus> Krillancello: edge-flipping is switching from one workspace to the next when your mouse goes off the side of the screen.
[04:11] <spazzz> Seraphim: I tried that with the vga=771 flag and it didn't help
[04:11] <Belboz99> alright, I'll have to dig through my CD's to find one of those live disks
[04:11] <Celeste> hi
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> At least, I think it will be rw...
[04:11] <spazzz> Soundray: Don't have one availiable there at the moment
[04:12] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Correct
[04:12] <Krillancello> dooglus: Well... I was close. Lol. That actually sounds nice.
[04:12] <kahuna_> It's OK to check the partition, just not repair.
[04:12] <Krillancello> I might try brightside if I can get this notebook running properly.
[04:12] <dooglus> Krillancello: it sounds nice, until you keep doing it accidentally all the time
[04:13] <Krillancello> dooglus: Yes, that's true. Lmao.
[04:13] <Celeste> I am searching for a modified StarterBar - a gDesklet - I found and lost it today by a mistake - it is a special modified StarterBar which makes the icons stay IN a specified height,  and not as the original StarterBar,  that the Icons grow over the border
[04:13] <Celeste> who knows where I can find this StarterBar??
[04:13] <Delvien> Anyone running WoW have the "NO CLICK" problem ?????
[04:13] <dooglus> Krillancello: Havoc Pennington of the GNOME project described it was "...ouija board UI, where you just move the mouse around and the computer guesses what you mean, has a lot of issues"
[04:14] <vvlaw> is that totem can not support the x264 codec?
[04:14] <bouncing> How do I turn on IP Forwarding through my ppp interface?
[04:14] <Krillancello> ...
[04:14] <Krillancello> ... I forgot to apt-get gdm. -_-;;
[04:15] <LinuxJones> spazzz: what kind of hardware is it your running ?
[04:15] <seraphim> bouncing: install firestarter
[04:15] <seraphim> it can manage that
[04:15] <Krillancello> That was smart of me. Install a desktop environment and not a ?dm.
[04:15] <Delvien> is there a WoW linux channel ?
[04:15] <NoelJB> Madpilot: OK, I see it.  Still not really what I want, though.  Close.  I just want to add a standard entry to the desktop context menu.  Oh well.
[04:15] <bouncing> seraphim: I'm looking for something a bit less serious. just a one-off.
[04:16] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Its a Dell Computer PIII 1Ghz.  Running a TVAnywhere capture card and a ATI 128MB video card with SVIDEO out
[04:16] <Madpilot> NoelJB, naut-open-term should have added a "Open Terminal" option to your right-click menu? Seems pretty standard to me...
[04:17] <seraphim> bouncing:  then you have to define some rules with iptables i think
[04:17] <bouncing> seraphim: I thought I just had to put 1 in a proc file and do maybe some other quick fix?
[04:18] <NoelJB> Madpilot: it wants to do it for ALL folder objects, such that the terminal opens in that directory.  I want to restore a standard menu item that you would find, for example, on every RH Gnome desktop.
[04:18] <dooglus> seraphim: ipkungfu is nice
[04:18] <vvlaw> no body know how to paly x264 files?
[04:18] <Vylar1978> Thinks I need get unix for dummies?
[04:18] <seraphim> the other quick fix is telling iptables ehat to do with which packet on which device and so on
[04:19] <Madpilot> NoelJB, I've never used RH Gnome - and I think the point of the naut. term package is to allow you to get your directories to the command line easily
[04:19] <CineFX3D_> I just installed breezey.. I wan't hoary wallpaper back :)
[04:20] <mcquaid> anyone here use a usb sound card in ubuntu?
[04:20] <seraphim> if you just want some forwarding i really recommend firestarter. it's very easy there
[04:20] <Vylar1978> Can some one tell me how to getmy flopy  to work again
[04:20] <seraphim> and you could easyly forward special ports if you need
[04:20] <seraphim> and so on
[04:20] <mcquaid> i'm considering getting one, and want to make sure i'm not going to run into some issues i've read about before
[04:21] <NoelJB> Madpilot: yes, I understand what it does.  Just not quite what I want, so I will need to figure out how to tailor ubuntu to do what *I* want.
[04:21] <Madpilot> NoelJB, fair enough - if/when you figure it out, post a howto on the wiki or somewhere for others
[04:22] <dli> can I do those "hi-speed dialup" in ubuntu
[04:22] <zachary> hey
[04:23] <Belea_> hi there
[04:23] <Belea_> where i shoudl edit this values
[04:23] <Krillancello> Okay... X doesn't want to run.
[04:23] <Belea_> vsync range 0:  56.00 -  76.00
[04:23] <Belea_> and
[04:23] <Belea_> hsync range 0:  30.00 -  81.00
[04:24] <spazzz> Krillancelo: join the party ;-)
[04:24] <Belea_> because my lcd its not in the middle
[04:24] <Belea_> until i use xvidtune
[04:24] <seraphim> Belea_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <Belea_> yes..  but where ?
[04:24] <seraphim> ah
[04:25] <bouncing> seraphim: Ok, I don't like firestarter
[04:25] <seraphim> Section "Monitor"
[04:25] <Belea_> i tried in the Section "Monitor"
[04:25] <seraphim>         HorizSync       30-70
[04:25] <seraphim>         VertRefresh     50-160
[04:25] <spazzz> Krillancello: Seriously whats it doing for you>
[04:25] <Belea_> :D
[04:25] <Belea_> oh
[04:25] <Belea_> without 0:
[04:25] <Belea_> cul, thx
[04:25] <Belea_> and how can i restart trhe xserver ?
[04:25] <seraphim> ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:25] <Belea_> i know how to shotdown :)
[04:26] <Belea_> that is for shutdown ?
[04:26] <Belea_> and to bring it back ?
[04:26] <seraphim> restarts the x-server
[04:26] <Madpilot> !enter
[04:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:26] <seraphim> most of the time
[04:26] <Belea_> cul, thx
[04:26] <seraphim> if it doesn't "sudo killall gdm" "sudo gdm"
[04:26] <dooglus> where is the documentation for gnome-screensaver?  it doesn't seem to have a manual page
[04:27] <Engla> seraphim: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[04:27] <seraphim> thanks :D
[04:27] <Delvien> anyone here help me with a World of Warcraft + Wine problem ?
[04:27] <rupan3> is there a way to reload my xorg.conf without logging out and back in?
[04:28] <NoelJB> Madpilot: will do.  I'm wondering if it requires writing a nautilus extension, but I'll find out, and compare against the RHEL distro.
[04:28] <Kyral> rupan3: nope
[04:28] <seraphim> no
[04:28] <Rob_Dude> KDE/Gnome are not part of Linux - they are just commonly used applications, right?
[04:28] <rupan3> hrmm bummer
[04:28] <rupan3> thx :)
[04:28] <syllogism> Rob_Dude: roger that
[04:28] <dooglus> Rob_Dude: Linux is the name of the kernel
[04:28] <Celeste> does anyone of you have an idea where Mac OS X puts minimiyed windows?
[04:29] <Rob_Dude> Can you get a KDE/Gnome port and run it in windows?
[04:29] <syllogism> Celeste: it puts 'em down at the bottom. . . somewhere. . .
[04:29] <torpedo|dog> Rob_Dude, 'tain't easy.
[04:29] <pugzilla> startkeylogger
[04:29] <kahuna_> bastard
[04:29] <kahuna_> stop fucking around.
[04:29] <pugzilla> i cant get my flopy to werk
[04:29] <torpedo|dog> You need to use cygwin and X and a lot a lot a lot a lot of configuration and stuff.
[04:30] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, gotcha
[04:30] <Celeste> syllogism, can I see a screenshot please?
[04:30] <kahuna_> scuse the language guys.
[04:30] <Celeste> syllogism, I am just modding gnome
[04:30] <LinuxJones> pugzilla: haha
[04:30] <syllogism> I use Xming and tunnel X11 sessions over ssh
[04:30] <Celeste> wanna make it look exactly as Mac OS
[04:30] <torpedo|dog> Rob_Dude, if you're up to the challenge, go nuts ;)
[04:31] <Krillancello> http://pastebin.com/581374 I just installed X, Gnome and GDM on this notebook, and it does this at boot. Can anyone help me fix this?
[04:31] <syllogism> Celeste: I hate Macs. . .as a matter of fact, the only mac I'd consider buying is #1 at McDonalds
[04:31] <Engla> Celeste: on osx, minimized windows go in a side section of the dock, as thumbnail icons
[04:31] <Rob_Dude> I really like this multiple desktop thing and everything in Gnome....I've used some multiple desktop program in Windows - but it sucked
[04:32] <Vylar1978> Can any one help me get my floppy to work
[04:32] <Rob_Dude> At work we have to run windows...but we can still applications if we want
[04:32] <Celeste> Engla, thank you!
[04:32] <Rob_Dude> I was hoping I could get Gnome running :)
[04:32] <Engla> Celeste: no problem. It can't be easy to duplicate that in gnome though
[04:32] <Engla> impossible, even
[04:32] <pugzilla> plug it in
[04:33] <Celeste> Engla,  I think you are right
[04:33] <Engla> Rob_Dude: run linux inside vmware?
[04:33] <Vylar1978> the floppy it is plugged in
[04:33] <torpedo|dog> Rob_Dude, looks like you might look at http://cygwinports.dotsrc.org/
[04:33] <wastrel> don't be sad
[04:33] <Engla> Celeste: some window manager makes icons out of minimized windows.. I have no Idea how to work with this though, sorry
[04:33] <pugzilla> does anyone know about "stopkeylogger"
[04:33] <Rob_Dude> Engla:  That's not a bad idea
[04:33] <pugzilla> ?
[04:33] <CineFX3D_> where can I get wallpaper from hoary?
[04:33] <rupan3> Celeste: XFCE does that
[04:33] <Celeste> I have a very important question ...
[04:33] <Engla> pugzilla: I read about it today
[04:34] <Vylar1978> Pug were you nto talking to me
[04:34] <pugzilla> i read irt too
[04:34] <pugzilla> dont werk
[04:34] <Celeste> can I teach GNOME  by maximiying windows  NOT use the very left  100px  ?
[04:34] <Engla> did someone drop from this channel, pugzilla? ;-) I have parts ignored
[04:34] <Celeste> I need the very left 100px for a gDesklet which should be ALWAYS visible
[04:34] <rupan3> i know you can in xfce
[04:34] <rupan3> hehe
[04:34] <mdmkolbe> where can I find information on the status of dapper drake?
[04:35] <wastrel> Celeste:  make a transparent gnome panel that's 100px wide
[04:35] <wastrel> and stick it on the left out of the way of the desklet
[04:35] <rupan3> wastrel: good idea ;)
[04:35] <Madpilot> mdmkolbe, search the Ubuntu wiki for "dapper" - there are a couple of status pages
[04:35] <Celeste> wastrel, a trasparent panel??
[04:35] <Celeste> wow lemme try
[04:35] <Vylar1978> How do I get my floppy to work?
[04:35] <Engla> Celeste: this is an ugly trick.. oh wastrel was faster
[04:36] <Engla> Celeste: I tested that and it works
[04:36] <rupan3> pretty smart idea.. i stil like xfce and the workspace margins that you can set though :p
[04:36] <mdmkolbe> Madpilot: thx
[04:37] <Krillancello> http://pastebin.com/581374 I just installed X, Gnome and GDM on this notebook, and it does this. Can anyone help me fix it?
[04:37] <phantomcircuit> startkeylogger
[04:37] <Engla> hehe
[04:37] <brucy> hi does anyone know what I must fix in /etc/fstav in order to avoir mounting a disk at every boot?
[04:38] <Celeste> it does not work - you cannot click the gdesklet in the background any more
[04:38] <cK-gLocK> can anyone here help me update my videocard drivers, im running old 7667 drivers.need help updating to the latest nvidia drivers. im running ubuntu ofcourse ftw
[04:38] <wastrel> brucy:  noauto in options
[04:38] <brucy> thanks
[04:39] <Engla> Krillancello: what X package did you install?
[04:39] <Engla> Krillancello: that's the exact line to launch X that my breezy install uses, so the gdm conf should be okay. that X is missing is alarming though
[04:39] <spazzz> What keys do I press to shutdown the Xserver and go to the command line?  I don't want it to restart.  I need this so I can try to fix XORG
[04:39] <wastrel> Celeste:  bummer :[
[04:40] <dli> Krillancello, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:40] <Engla> spazzz: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' ; use start to start it again
[04:40] <dyrne> cK-gLocK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=latest+nvidia
[04:40] <wastrel> spazzz:  ctrl-alt-f1  will put you on the console.    or what engla said
[04:40] <spazzz> Engala: I can't see the screen
[04:40] <spazzz> wastrel: Thats it thank you
[04:40] <Xenguy> spazzz: drop to the console (Ctrl-Alt-F2), then do: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:41] <Xenguy> spazzz: er, sudo that
[04:41] <spazzz> Thanks...
[04:41] <Vylar1978> Can some help me?
[04:41] <spazzz> I finaly got the system to boot now I just need to get X to display something other than garbage
[04:41] <renan> ola
[04:41] <Krillancello> What the hell...
[04:41] <brucy> Which site must I add to /etc/apt/source.list to install mplayer I read that it was in universe but I can't find it
[04:42] <renan> tem alguem do brasil aki
[04:42] <Krillancello> When I try to use startx, my X server's xserverrc tries to "exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp"
[04:42] <Krillancello> There's no /usr/bin/X11/X.
[04:42] <Krillancello> O_o
[04:42] <Celeste> ok,  so is there an OTHER option than the invisible Panel  to make maximizing windows STOP 100px away from the left edge of the screen??
[04:43] <spazzz> Ok let me ask this... If I start the Live CD and type: live vga=771 at boot it gives me the graphical menus that were scrambled before but as soon as the system loads everything scrables agian
[04:43] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: does this work?:  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[04:43] <Krillancello> o_o...
[04:43] <spazzz> What did the vga=771 option do and how can I duplicate this once the system starts?
[04:44] <Krillancello> '/usr/bin/X11 is a link to ../bin.
[04:44] <Krillancello> >_>
[04:44] <Vylar1978> xenguy do Iput that on commmand line
[04:45] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: yup
[04:45] <Xenguy> Krillancello: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 14 Dec 28 10:24 X -> ../X11R6/bin/X
[04:45] <benplaut> "We are now in 'bug freeze' - the bugs are preserved in their natural state so they can be observed by the masses"
[04:46] <g14> I am typing this to see if anyone has Norton Internet Security. startkeylogger
[04:46] <Xenguy> Krillancello: so what is the output for: ls -ld /usr/bin/X11R6/X
[04:47] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: then if it works, you should see the floppy contents by typing:  ls /mnt
[04:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> g14: In this channel? :p
[04:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Try that exploit in #windows or something.
[04:48] <nalioth> g14: what are you doing?
[04:49] <Engla> stopkeylogger
[04:49] <Engla> ;-)
[04:49] <nalioth> !offtopic
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:49] <g14> nalioth: check slashdot
[04:49] <Xenguy> g14: go away :P
[04:49] <wastrel> Celeste:  perhaps ask on #gnome or in a gnome mailing list....
[04:49] <nalioth> g14: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nalioth: It's an exploit in Norton that makes you quit if it detects certain 'key'phrases associated with some trojans.
[04:49] <Vylar1978> xenguy it works
[04:50] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: cool - I wonder if you can mount your floppy with Nautilus File Manager then?
[04:50] <Vylar1978> xenguy: How do you do that but first can you help me get my modem online
[04:50] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: to unmount the floppy (when you are done), do: umount /mnt
[04:51] <wastrel> we should set up a bot that autobans when someone usese that keylogger thing
[04:51] <boro> hello , can some help me ?, i need playing StarCraft my ubuntu can cedega 4.2.2 funny good but is very slow...and other games also like Devil 2, some idea? thank
[04:51] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: what kind of modem?
[04:51] <boro> my pc is Celeron 1G,256Ram
[04:51] <Toma-> this is a big ask, but does anyone know what wiki server wiki.ubuntu works on? if any...
[04:52] <clever`rev> where can i find the settings for how long the pc can idle before the laptop screen shuts itself off?
[04:52] <Vylar1978> xenguy:us robotics 56k modem
[04:52] <nalioth> clever`rev: in system > prefs > screen saver > advanced
[04:52] <Vylar1978> v.92
[04:52] <wastrel> Toma-:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/credits
[04:52] <clever`rev> :D
[04:53] <clever`rev> thanks
[04:53] <Toma-> thanks wastrel :P
[04:54] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: brb
[04:54] <mikebot> anyone know why, in firefox, when i am using mouse3 to move aorund on a page, when i release, it opens a link?
[04:55] <wastrel> mikebot:  ff1.5?
[04:55] <NoelJB> Madpilot: Aha!  Found what's going on ... see:
[04:55] <NoelJB> http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus
[04:55] <wastrel> mikebot:  i've been wondering that myself :]
[04:55] <_jason> mikebot: about:config in the address bar and change middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false
[04:55] <mikebot> wastrel, yeah hehe
[04:55] <jason_q> hi
[04:56] <mikebot> _jason, wonderful, thank you
[04:56] <ali> hi i have a printer on windows 98 at my work place
[04:56] <marc> hey guys
[04:56] <ali> and i want to connect through my ubuntu 5.4
[04:56] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: so you are on dialup?
[04:56] <Vylar1978> yes
[04:57] <ali> i cannot see my printers in my places -> network server
[04:57] <Xenguy> !dialup
[04:57] <ubotu> dialup is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[04:57] <marc> Did you guys got World of wacraft working on Ubuntu ???
[04:57] <Toma-> marc, yep
[04:57] <ali> i can see other share folders but i cannot print ?
[04:57] <Vylar1978> !dialup  I put that in command line
[04:57] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Vylar1978
[04:58] <ali> i have got the ppd file for hp laserjet 1100A
[04:58] <marc> Toma- is it pretty complecated to install
[04:58] <Toma-> hey _jason, any idea on how to turn off highlight copy in the adress bar? :D
[04:58] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, read the URL the bot just posted
[04:58] <Toma-> marc, from what ive heard, no
[04:58] <Engla> Vylar1978: that's just a command for this channel :-)
[04:58] <ali> anyone ???????????????????????]
[04:58] <marc> you us it with winehq i guess
[04:58] <_jason> Toma-: i'm pretty sure that is an option in about:config as well but I don't know off the top of my head
[04:58] <Toma-> rightio
[04:59] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: I used to have good success with 'pppconfig' (can be run at the command-line); 'kppp' is a decent GUI
[04:59] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: no
[04:59] <_jason> Toma-: browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll possibly
[04:59] <Xenguy> !tell Vylar1978 about dialup
[04:59] <Vylar1978> ok
[05:00] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:00] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: see the link ubotu sent you for more details than just pppconfig and kppp
[05:00] <dolson> does anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?
[05:00] <Vylar1978> I am new to unix did not thinkit would be this differnt
[05:00] <ali> vlc
[05:00] <ali> Vylar1978, vlc player
[05:00] <Toma-> hmmm if only find worked in this about:config page
[05:00] <Toma-> oh... filter :D
[05:00] <Toma-> silly
[05:00] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: ever OS is 'different' if you're not familiar with it :-)
[05:01] <Lao> I'm new to Linux too but finding it somewhat easier than I expected
[05:01] <Toma-> _jason, it was clipboard.autocopy i think
[05:01] <_jason> Toma-: ah
[05:01] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:01] <Toma-> nope
[05:01] <Toma-> :|
[05:01] <_jason> Toma-: I didn't even know it did that, I thought you meant how it selected the whole thing :)
[05:02] <_jason> Toma-: some of the things need you to restart firefox
[05:02] <Toma-> ok
[05:02] <CineFX3D_> where is root terminal in breezy gone??
[05:02] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:02] <mikebot> wastrel, as what we were talking about before, are there any plans to reimplement the menu editing?
[05:02] <Toma-> CineFX3D_, its hidden from root monsters
[05:02] <Madpilot> CineFX3D_, it was removed from the menu - just use a regular term + sudo...
[05:02] <CineFX3D_> I see ;)
[05:02] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: I think that was a Gnome decision (a poor one IMHO)
[05:02] <_jason> CineFX3D_: sudo -s, will give you one
[05:02] <Lao> Vylar: what I have been doing, and it's helped me alot with learning how Linux actually works, is installing and messing around in terminal until I break it
[05:03] <wastrel> mikebot:  i've actually heard about a menu editor they use in edubuntu to simplify menus for kids... might ask in that channel
[05:03] <CineFX3D_> I know, thanks.. looks like GNOME thing after all..poor one
[05:03] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: oh, maybe I misread
[05:03] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:03] <ali> anyone ???????????
[05:03] <ali> anyone????????????
[05:03] <Toma-> hidden from people that like to use # mplayer dvd:// because they setup dvd wrong
[05:03] <mikebot> wastrel, okay, thanks
[05:03] <Installer36> Ali yes it is possible but I dont know how
[05:03] <_adub> what is the latest stable kernel that i can apt-get install
[05:03] <ali> thanks for the reply Installer36 no one here reply even :(
[05:03] <ali> so sad
[05:04] <Lao> ali: is it on a network or directly connected to the computer?
[05:04] <Xenguy> ali: repeating just gets you /ignored typically
[05:04] <tritium> ali: you're not patient enough
[05:04] <Madpilot> _adub, Ubuntu will automatically notify you if there's a kernel update available
[05:04] <ali> on the network
[05:04] <Vylar1978> were is a site that tells the differnt commands to use on linux
[05:04] <mdmkolbe> this may be an odd question but what wiki software does the ubuntu wiki use?
[05:04] <ali> sorry for that tritium
[05:04] <Madpilot> !tell Vylar1978 about cli
[05:04] <Toma-> !bash
[05:04] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:04] <Toma-> i c
[05:04] <Madpilot> mdmkolbe, MoinMoin
[05:04] <tritium> ali: no problem
[05:04] <ali> Lao its on the network
[05:05] <mdmkolbe> Madpilot: thx again
[05:05] <Lao> ali: I know theres a windows networking device called Samba, try using that and if you have to just send files to another computere and print there
[05:05] <Toma-> wow... i asked that just 5 mins ago mdmkolbe
[05:05] <Toma-> :P
[05:05] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: there's this tho (not sure if it applies to you)...
[05:05] <elaverick> Anyone able to give me some assistance?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Acer Laptop and it keeps hanging part way through installing remaining packages.
[05:05] <Engla> mdmkolbe: and moinmoin is in the repos if you want it
[05:05] <ali> that is 98 Lao i cannot send all the time
[05:05] <Xenguy> !tell CineFX3D_ about terminal
[05:05] <Lao> Ali: yea I caught it I just take forever to type
[05:05] <ali> samba is there working
[05:05] <_adub> madpilot im using kubuntu
[05:05] <Vylar1978> what is cli
[05:05] <tritium> command line interface
[05:06] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: command line interface
[05:06] <Madpilot> _adub, same back end
[05:06] <Vylar1978> I found that now lol
[05:06] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: as opposed to GUI
[05:06] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, the bot should have sent you a msg with a bunch of URLs?
[05:06] <Vylar1978> I got my floopy to work thatnks to it
[05:06] <Lao> Ali: well its something till you can find a good LUG that can help
[05:06] <Vylar1978> I only got one that I seen
[05:06] <ali> LUG what is that ?
[05:06] <_adub> madpilot
[05:06] <_adub> ok
[05:06] <dolson> does anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?
[05:06] <Boelcke> Silly question: I've also installed the XFCE desktop, and now that I have, the bootup sequence is a blue Xubuntu, rather than the brown Ubuntu I've been used to seeing.
[05:07] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:07] <Boelcke> Any ideas on how to change that back?
[05:07] <Lao> Ali: a LUG is a local Linux users group
[05:07] <wastrel> night
[05:07] <ali> ok
[05:07] <Burgundavia> has anyone used aegis virus scanner? How does it stack up to clamav?
[05:07] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: in GNOME, Apps > Accessories > Terminal
[05:07] <ali> thanks for the advice Lao
[05:07] <Lao> Ali: try searching the web and looking for Lugs in your area, I've seen alot of them can be found at local universities
[05:07] <Vylar1978> why does it keep asking for password every time I do commands
[05:07] <Xenguy> Burgundavia: clamav seems to be the one most folks use
[05:08] <ali> ok
[05:08] <ali> i will try Lao
[05:08] <Lao> there's two near my place in New Jersey, and I'm trying to start one.
[05:08] <Burgundavia> Xenguy: have you used aegis?
[05:08] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, sudo should keep your pw for about 5 or 10 minutes, each time you use it
[05:08] <ali> good luck Lao
[05:08] <Xenguy> Burgundavia: heh - I've used neither ;-)
[05:08] <Lao> Ali: good luck man don't loose faith =-)
[05:08] <Toma-> Vylar1978, like Madpilot said, but if you open another terminal, youll need to enter sudo password again
[05:08] <werther> ok, I'm trying to get ssh port tunneling to work...I'm on a box behind a firewall, and I have a server...I want the server to forward a port to my box
[05:08] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: if the operation needs 'root access', then you'll be prompted for your password
[05:08] <Toma-> in the new terminal
[05:09] <_adub> what is the latest kernel i can apt-get install
[05:09] <werther> I tried "ssh -R 8080:localhost:8080<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I get a connection refused
[05:09] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: easiest is just to sudo once with 'sudo -i'
[05:09] <Madpilot> _adub, I've already answered that question for you - you'll get a notification on the desktop of updates...
[05:09] <Lao> anyone know how I can get the latest version of Firefox... it's not considered "stable" yet, but I want it
[05:09] <_adub> even in kde
[05:10] <Madpilot> _adub, as far as I know, yes - but ask in #kubuntu
[05:10] <Crshman> which is the best wifi manager for ubuntu? there are a few to choose from; wifi-radar, network-manager, gtk wifi.....
[05:10] <Vylar1978>  ok I will brb and see what I can come up with
[05:10] <_adub> madpilot what kernel are you running
[05:10] <Lao> Crshman: im using wifi radar and its amazing
[05:10] <Krillancello> So can anyone help me fix my X server?
[05:10] <Madpilot> _adub, 2.6.12-10-k7
[05:10] <CineFX3D_> " If you want to be able to right-click on the desktop or a folder to open the terminal, install nautilus-open-terminal (sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal)" - but I don't see it in right click :/
[05:10] <nalioth> Lao: developer.mozilla.com
[05:11] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: you may have to login again
[05:11] <V4Vendetta> usted consigui escalfar ese castor salvaje
[05:11] <Toma-> ubotu, tell Lao about ff1.5
[05:11] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: it does work tho
[05:11] <CineFX3D_> thanks
[05:11] <Madpilot> CineFX3D_, try closing & restarting nautilus
[05:11] <Crshman> Lao: ok i'll try that one
[05:11] <nalioth> !es
[05:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:11] <Lao> HEY nalioth, thanks for the help with my wifi card its running like a champ now
[05:11] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: what Madpilot said
[05:11] <V4Vendetta> nalioth~ i speak english :-P
[05:11] <nalioth> Lao: any time
[05:11] <_adub> is there a later kernel i can apt-get install
[05:12] <_adub> from the main repositories
[05:12] <nalioth> V4Vendetta: then while in #ubuntu, please speak it
[05:12] <Madpilot> _adub, there will be when Dapper releases in mid-April
[05:12] <CineFX3D_> and it works :)
[05:12] <werther> ok, why can I ping my ip address, but not localhost?
[05:12] <endeavormac> can someone help me out. I do not have an Ubuntu distro installed, but a friend of mine does and I'm trying to help him get python installed. Can someone please do an apt-cache search python and let me know what the name of the package is that he needs to apt-get install?
[05:12] <lgc> Hello everyone from Mexico! Can anyone help me?
[05:12] <Crshman> i'm having an issue with my wireless....it does work, it does connect, i can use the internet....but after about 2 minutes the connections just stop i can't ping, i can't surf nothing....then after another minute or so all returns to normal.....any ideas as this is quite annoying
[05:12] <Toma-> 2.6.10 is in the repos... i think
[05:12] <cozby> hey got an install issue, im trying to install Xubuntu (the XFCE way) , i'm following the guide on the website, but it goes downhill after i run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , it tells me to insert the disk labled 5.10_breezy badger_ ?
[05:12] <CineFX3D_> now if I could only find original wallpaper from hoary..the sparkle one.. can't find it anywhere :/
[05:12] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: it should be there by default IMHO :p
[05:12] <V4Vendetta> nalioth~ si :-D
[05:12] <CineFX3D_> Xenguy: yes it should!
[05:12] <nalioth> lgc: try #ubuntu-es
[05:12] <Toma-> cozby, have you got your install CD in the drive?
[05:13] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: er, the right-click terminal I mean
[05:13] <cozby> i dont even know what cd thats referring to im guessing the install one.
[05:13] <werther> is lo not setup correctly?
[05:13] <Toma-> cozby, u guessed it
[05:13] <cozby> it give me a y/n option, and if i say n - the install aborts?
[05:13] <slartibartfast> hi, can anyone suggest a way to make a completely functional backup from one partition to another?
[05:13] <lgc> nalioth, Hello again. My problem isn't English -well, not especially-.
[05:13] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: define 'functional' :)
[05:13] <Toma-> cozby, you can remove the cd repo from your sources.list and then apt-get update
[05:13] <elaverick> Anyone able to help me with a hanging install?
[05:13] <marc> What is the program in Ubuntu that installs software directly from the net ???
[05:14] <Madpilot> lgc, if you just ask your question, someone might be able to help you...
[05:14] <Crshman> apt-get?
[05:14] <Toma-> just make sure main is enabled in sources.list
[05:14] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: Bootable
[05:14] <intelikey> ok problem with cups on 5.4 ubuntu    user starts a print job with too few sheets of paper  the printer automatically pauses,  but now the user can not continue the printing and must call the sysadmin.   what's the "prefered" sulution ?
[05:14] <cozby> omg, im a idiot,all this timei thought the cd was int here
[05:14] <Boelcke> Cozby, I installed xfce4 with synaptec, worked OK...
[05:14] <Madpilot> marc, apt-get (Synaptic is the graphical one)
[05:14] <werther> is default install supposed to be able to ping localhost?
[05:14] <cozby> sorry
[05:14] <endeavormac> i would really appreciate some help
[05:14] <Toma-> marc, synaptic
[05:14] <cozby> im a moron
[05:14] <werther> (or do anything with localhost...)
[05:14] <cozby> no wonder it wasn't working. i just realized i took it out after reboot
[05:14] <Toma-> werther, if you have lo running, yes
[05:14] <marc> were do i get it
[05:14] <Toma-> cozby, teehehehe :D
[05:14] <werther> Toma-, weird...would rebooting possibly help?
[05:15] <cozby> ;) wow im a total ass
[05:15] <cozby> haha
[05:15] <Toma-> marc, its installed by default. System > Admin > Synaptic
[05:15] <Boelcke> marc, System, Administration, Synaptec Package Manager
[05:15] <Toma-> werther, yes.
[05:15] <werther> brb
[05:15] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: hrm, I bet it is doable, but probably requires some tricks (I can't say how offhand)
[05:15] <marc> ok thx
[05:15] <eth0> hi, could anyone tell me what package i need to install to develope in c? i already have build-essential, but that's not enough, i dont even have header files like conio.h and stuff
[05:15] <lgc> Madpilot, it's an easy one now: What is what I have to install to have the C  (and C++) manuals online?
[05:15] <RollyW> anybody know if dvd shrink is available for linux?
[05:15] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: thanks I was hoping there would be something easier than dd
[05:16] <Madpilot> lgc, I'm the wrong person to ask for that - I'm not a programmer
[05:16] <fatbrain> How can I re-install GRUB ?
[05:16] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, "Type in make and pray"
[05:16] <Toma-> eth0, get the package "apt-file" then run "apt-file search conio.h", itll tell you what packages you need specifically
[05:16] <intelikey> fatbrain sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:16] <Toma-> RollyW, yep. look up PLF
[05:16] <Crshman> what is defined as an RX error? \(obviously RX = recieve)
[05:16] <Toma-> !plf
[05:16] <fatbrain> intelikey: thanks
[05:16] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[05:17] <Toma-> there u go
[05:17] <intelikey> ok problem with cups on 5.4 ubuntu    user starts a print job with too few sheets of paper  the printer automatically pauses,  but now the user can not continue the printing and must call the sysadmin.   what's the "prefered" sulution ?
[05:17] <nalioth> lgc: search in synaptic, the docs for what you seek are there
[05:17] <eth0> toma: ok, thanks, ill give it a shot
[05:17] <Lao> well I'm off see you folks later
[05:17] <Toma-> eth0, np :) good luck
[05:17] <gleesond> how do I turn off my NIC before installing the driver
[05:17] <Lao> good luck everyone
[05:17] <endeavormac> Is there a website which lists the Ubuntu apt packages?
[05:17] <tritium> intelikey: that looks exactly like a problem someone was having a minute ago...oh, wait...that was you
[05:17] <nalioth> endeavormac: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <Madpilot> endeavormac, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <Xenguy> gleesond: ifdown eth0  ?
[05:17] <endeavormac> ok, thank you
[05:18] <Toma-> intelikey, theres no resume button on the printer?
[05:18] <intelikey> yes tritium that was a repost.
[05:18] <tritium> intelikey: I'm just giving you a hard time ;)
[05:18] <Toma-> intelikey, ur IRC'ing as root?
[05:18] <Extreme_Unction> ROOT HIM!1
[05:18] <intelikey> Toma- there is a resume button on the ubuntu desktop but it requires root access.       and i'm not root.
[05:19] <lgc> Madpilot, thanks. nalioth. What is what I have to fiddle with in synaptic? I have no idea!
[05:19] <gleesond> Xenguy: my next question is how do I bring it up again?
[05:19] <Toma-> whois says otherwise :D
[05:19] <Extreme_Unction> IGC: What do you want from synaptic?
[05:19] <nalioth> lgc: search for "docs"
[05:19] <Xenguy> gleesond: ifup eth0  ?
[05:19] <gleesond> ah
[05:19] <eth0> grndlvl: im not registered
[05:19] <gleesond> thanks
[05:19] <Toma-> intelikey, is the user in the printing group?
[05:19] <intelikey> Toma- whois doesn't know everything.
[05:19] <eth0> grndlvl: im not sure if it's just header fies
[05:19] <Toma-> :P
[05:19] <CineFX3D_> which irc client you use in ubuntu guys?
[05:20] <Toma-> intelikey, see if the user is in the lpadmin group
[05:20] <bobby> xchat
[05:20] <bobby> or irssi :)
[05:20] <Toma-> CineFX3D_, telnet
[05:20] <Toma-> :P
[05:20] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: irssi-text (console-based)
[05:20] <Madpilot> CineFX3D_, XChat
[05:20] <CineFX3D_> ;P telnet
[05:20] <bobby> Toma-, uber hardc0re ey? :P
[05:20] <elaverick> Is it possible to install a full Ubuntu install from inside a minimal install?
[05:20] <intelikey> hmmmm printing group you say.... i'll have to check that, but i think so.   i don't have hands on  atm  just trying to find new ideas on the issue.
[05:20] <eth0> grndlvl: i already have libglib
[05:21] <nalioth> elaverick: sure it is
[05:21] <La_PaRCa> elaverick, yeah, just install the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:21] <eth0> toma: didb't work
[05:21] <Toma-> nah i use xchat :(
[05:21] <eth0> grndlvl: talk in here
[05:21] <Extreme_Unction> I'm trying to play zsnes and I get "Sound init failed" my default sound is Alsa, what does Zsness use? Can I use aoss to prevent this?
[05:21] <Toma-> custom alias's tho :D
[05:21] <marc> How do i get Wine install
[05:21] <Toma-> eth0, damn.
[05:21] <elaverick> Ah right, so if I go for a server install (hopefully that will complete) I can then just apt-get the desktop from there
[05:21] <Toma-> have you got source repos enabled in your sources.list?
[05:21] <raghu> marc: apt-get install wine
[05:22] <RollyW> where is the default location for sources.list?
[05:22] <Toma-> eth0, ^^^
[05:22] <Toma-> RollyW, /etc/apt/
[05:22] <Xenguy> RollyW: /etc/apt
[05:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marc about wine
[05:22] <eth0> toma: i think so
[05:22] <intelikey> Toma- you think the use would be able to print but not "resume" a print job   because of not being in a group ?     i really hadn't thought of that....
[05:23] <gleesond> ah
[05:23] <eth0> toma: yeah, i have
[05:23] <eth0> is ubuntu just not good for programming or something?
[05:23] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: I found a writeup on the forums that says
[05:23] <Toma-> intelikey, yeh. well the whole sudo thing sounds wack to me. is it a multi-user system this persons on?
[05:23] <nalioth> eth0: it's as good as any linux distro for that purpose
[05:23] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: I can simply use tar to compress it all
[05:23] <intelikey> Toma- yes it is
[05:23] <Toma-> eth0, no, its good...
[05:24] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: tar doesn't compress without gzip
[05:24] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: but whatever works
[05:24] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: with gzip of cours
[05:24] <Toma-> intelikey, i see. sometimes adding new users dont get all the group prividges as the 1st user gets. :( make sure they are in the correct groups
[05:24] <eth0> toma: how do i get started then?
[05:24] <darthbutcher> Hey.
[05:24] <intelikey> Toma- and the sudo setup on that system has no group entries in it,  it's a pretty tight system.
[05:24] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=disk+copy
[05:25] <Toma-> eth0, i dont program sorry :( i wish i could tho...
[05:25] <eth0> nalioth: any ideas how to get setup programming in c?
[05:25] <lgc> nalioth, I got "documentation" selected. And then I try to double-click on "gcc-3.3-doc", for example. But nothing happens. How should I access to its contents?
[05:25] <Toma-> ahh i goto go
[05:26] <intelikey> and yeah Toma- i'll give groups a through going over there.   thanks for the thoughts.
[05:26] <Toma-> np
[05:26] <Toma-> cyas
[05:26] <Grndlvl> eth0 stupid question but you have gcc installed right?
[05:26] <tritium> eth0: you really want to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:26] <eth0> grn: yeah
[05:27] <eth0> tritium: i already have build-essential
[05:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eth0: Install 'build-essential', install an IDE (like anjuta, for instance, or just a syntax-aware text editor), and you should be rocking.
[05:27] <tritium> eth0: then what's the problem?
[05:27] <nalioth> eth0: grab some source code and get to compiling
[05:27] <amyn> when i unpack those codecs for playing my mp3's from winxp mounted partition. Following errors occured: Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[05:27] <amyn> dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)
[05:27] <amyn> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
[05:27] <amyn> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[05:27] <amyn>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/win32/LCodcCMP.dll')
[05:27] <amyn> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:27] <amyn>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:27] <tritium> amyn: stop that
[05:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> amyn: Don't paste in here, use pastebin.
[05:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ...
[05:28] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:28] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: looks like a decent thread
[05:28] <RollyW> when i add repositories, i need to refresh or something, correct?
[05:28] <tritium> yes, RollyW
[05:28] <eth0> im trying to compile, but i get missing header files and other things
[05:28] <intelikey> eth0 dpkg -l build-essential   and make sure that it is not broken or partially installed.
[05:28] <RollyW> is ti just "sudo apt-get refresh"?
[05:28] <tritium> eth0: then you've not installed the -dev libraries that you need
[05:28] <tritium> RollyW: sudo apt-get update
[05:28] <RollyW> kk, cool. thanks
[05:28] <eth0> tritium: what are the libraries called?
[05:28] <nalioth> eth0: what are you trying to compile
[05:29] <tritium> eth0: you tell me.  What are you compiling?  What libs does it need?
[05:29] <nalioth> amyn: please use a pastebin to paste things
[05:29] <amyn> sorry for that
[05:29] <eth0> it needs conio.j and stdio.h
[05:29] <eth0> it's just a simple program
[05:29] <amyn> can someone pls help me in those errors ?
[05:29] <jrsims> hey, I installed ubuntu server and fluxbox. How do I install X?
[05:30] <nalioth> jrsims: installing flux, should have installed X
[05:30] <jrsims> nalioth: install x first?
[05:30] <amyn> nalioth, i forgot the url
[05:30] <nalioth> jrsims: you said you 'installed' fluxbox or are goin to install it
[05:30] <RollyW> does the deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free not include dvdshrink?
[05:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eth0: You may need to manually specify the locations of those files.  I think it's the -L option for gcc, but it's been awhile since I've used that.
[05:30] <Xenguy> eth0: someone already suggesting using apt-file to locate appropriate packages for the files you want
[05:30] <intelikey> amyn  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb     and try again   ?
[05:30] <jrsims> nalioth: got fluxbox from apt-get, now it says I need to install x. startx doesn't work.
[05:30] <Grndlvl> eth0 not much with the c programming on nix but can you not install the cstdio library?
[05:31] <nalioth> jrsims: install xserver-xorg or x-windows-system
[05:31] <eth0> xenguy: i did but the search came up with nothing
[05:31] <jrsims> nalioth: are they the same?
[05:31] <eth0> i've searched my whole hd for conio.h but it's non-existent
[05:31] <nalioth> jrsims: one will get you more goodies
[05:31] <public> hey i have a couple of ubuntu boxes behind an ubuntu dhcp server.  for some reason it will give them ip's but it wont set their default route. how do i get it to do that (so i dont have to do route add default gw <my network> on every machine every time i boot one up) ?
[05:32] <jrsims> nalioth: which is that? I'm trying to keep things light.
[05:32] <amyn> intelikey, rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb': No such file or directory
[05:32] <nalioth> jrsims: both will keep you 'light'
[05:32] <jrsims> nalioth: so which do you recommend?
[05:32] <Xenguy> eth0: I see what you mean...
[05:33] <intelikey> amyn well find the correct directory name with the tab key :)
[05:33] <amyn> nalioth, what is the url of pastebin ?
[05:33] <public> no one knows?
[05:33] <Xenguy> eth0: there must be a good HOWTO out there somewhere (IANAP BTW)
[05:33] <tritium> amyn: see the topic
[05:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell amyn about paste
[05:33] <Xenguy> amyn: /topic
[05:33] <eth0> xenguy: i've looked already
[05:33] <intelikey> amyn  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/[tab] [tab] <type the correct dir>/*.deb     and try again   ?
[05:34] <eth0> bah i hope i dont have to go back to slack again
[05:34] <amyn> ok
[05:34] <eth0> :((
[05:34] <eth0> i was fiddling around with glib a few days back, could that be the cause of it?
[05:34] <eth0> i mean i updated the bog standard glib
[05:34] <bestadvocate> Hey, I'm looking for some advice,  I am currently running i386 Ubuntu on my AMD64, I'd like to switch but I use my computer primarally as a Media Player.  I read on the Restricted Formats page that VServer and dchroot were reccomended ways to install win32codecs.  Which of these is better?  Is there a page that describes the next step after installing the programs?
[05:35] <eth0> but it didn't work out to well
[05:35] <intelikey> eth0 no you don't have to go back to slackware  use gentoo   hehheh
[05:35] <jrsims> nalioth: so which do you recommend?
[05:35] <eth0> why gentoo?
[05:35] <nalioth> bestadvocate: if you are running the i386 kernel, you are fine, no chroot needed
[05:35] <amyn> intelikey, root@amin:/home/amin# sudo rm /var/cache/apt/
[05:35] <nalioth> jrsims: one or the other
[05:35] <amyn> archives/        pkgcache.bin     srcpkgcache.bin
[05:35] <frank23> bestadvocate: as a fellow amd64 owner, I suggest you stick with the i386 version
[05:35] <jrsims> nalioth: well, which gets me all the extra goodies - and what are these goodies?
[05:35] <intelikey> archives amyn
[05:35] <frank23> bestadvocate: you can use the k7 kernel though
[05:35] <eth0> cant even frigging program in this one
[05:36] <nalioth> jrsims: believe me, they won't bulk up the system. i'm surprised installing fluxbox didnt pull in the xserver
[05:36] <Wammy|> anyone willing to help me get the soundcard on this laptop working? been trying for the past 2 days. I am willing to pay. i just need it working.
[05:36] <tritium> apt-get clean is preferable to removing the directory and its contents manually
[05:36] <jrsims> nalioth: k. thanks!
[05:36] <nalioth> eth0: you can program fine. you CAN'T find the files you're looking for
[05:36] <intelikey>     amyn      archives   packages   what's the differance....  lol
[05:36] <Grndlvl> eth0 tried installing g++ because the library you are using is c++ not c
[05:36] <jrsims> QUERY! In IRSSI, Is there a quick way to go to the command line without quitting?
[05:37] <eth0> grndlvl: it's definitely for c
[05:37] <bestadvocate> frank23: I think I will continue doing so, documentation and support are all a lot better on i386 unfortunately.
[05:37] <nalioth> jrsims: run irssi in a screen session
[05:37] <ubuntu_newbie> jrsims, can you CTRL-Z to get to the command line, then 'fg 1' to get back?
[05:37] <nalioth> ubuntu_newbie: no  no no
[05:37] <nalioth> jrsims: no don't do it
[05:37] <amyn> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9656
[05:37] <jrsims> I know. I 'm nit
[05:37] <jrsims> not
[05:37] <nalioth> jrsims: ctrl-z hard quits irssi
[05:37] <Grndlvl> sorry nver messed w/ c b4
[05:37] <goemaat_ubuntu> Hmm...  CTRL-Z worked for me
[05:37] <_jason> jrsims: you can run quick commands with /exec too
[05:37] <intelikey> amyn looking
[05:38] <nalioth> jrsims: learn 'gnu screen'
[05:38] <goemaat_ubuntu> maybe if you stay out long enough CTRL-Z quits I guess...
[05:38] <jrsims> Kinda like in vim, I can run :sh to get to the shell, then "exit" to return to vim
[05:38] <public> hey i have a couple of ubuntu boxes behind an ubuntu dhcp server.  for some reason it will give them ip's but it wont set their default route. how do i get it to do that (so i dont have to do route add default gw <my network> on every machine every time i boot one up) ? i think it's a problem with the server right?
[05:38] <nalioth> my ctrl-z immediatly hard stops my irssi. leaving a ghost on the network
[05:39] <SuShI-X2> I'm getting this debootstrap error when I'm trying to install the base package.  Any ideas?
[05:39] <frank23> bestadvocate: since you're using the i386 version of ubuntu, all that i386 stuff applies to you too.
[05:39] <frank23> bestadvocate: the AMD64 version of ubuntu is different (another CD)  only AMD64 processors can run that one
[05:40] <fn_> i want install ubuntu on many pcs, should it done one by one or is there a better way ?
[05:40] <fn_> like norton ghost thing
[05:40] <intelikey> amyn you need to re-download the package w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb      (short read)     means it ran out of data.
[05:41] <frank23> bestadvocate: the chroot stuff is for running 32bit programs on the AMD64 version of Ubuntu
[05:41] <bestadvocate> frank23 yes I know, I was considering using the AMD64 compiled version.  (everything is already working on this install, but I need to re-install anyway and was considering a switch in versions. perhaps next year)
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> fn_,  could install to one, then use mondo/mindi to make a backup/restore cd set
[05:41] <Xenguy> eth0: FWIW, here's a link I came across; it may or may not be remotely useful :-)  http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/introdeveloperdocs-0510121817/introdeveloperdocs-0.05/IntroDeveloperDoc_v0.05.pdf
[05:41] <odat> hi everyone
[05:41] <eth0> hmm, i think it's just using that conio.h when there is a problem, it understands all the others
[05:42] <frank23> bestadvocate: yeah, I'm not going to switch until installing a i386 program can be done completely transparently. I don't know how long that will take
[05:42] <fn_> really ?? ok then.. i ll read the manual first
[05:42] <odat> i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2     error
[05:42] <fn_> thanks Dr_Willis
[05:42] <intelikey> amyn i see that you are installing with dpkg   i should have paid a little closer attention,   but the error is the same.    the archive / package  is incomplete.   get a new one.
[05:42] <jerrod> how do i upgrade to flash v8 in mozilla?
[05:42] <nalioth> bestadvocate: stay with an x86 arch
[05:42] <frank23> jerrod: macromedia never released flash 8 for linux
[05:42] <amyn> intelikey,  in short what ive to do now ?
[05:43] <intelikey> re-download
[05:43] <eth0> xenguy: thanks :)
[05:43] <holy_cow> http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/03/03/004215.shtml  <-- anyone try this yet in a windows channel?
[05:43] <holy_cow> hehe
[05:44] <Xenguy> eth0: HTH :-)
[05:44] <amyn> i also unpacked sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb it got installed successfully but when i right click 'open with' for a mp3 song i cant see realplayer in the 'open with' list
[05:44] <eth0> grndlvl: are u sure conio.h is c++ and not c?
[05:44] <odat> i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2
[05:44] <_jason> jerrod: macromedia has not released 8 for linux afaik
[05:44] <dolson> does anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?
[05:45] <goemaat> Can someone tell me where to get w32codecs for breezy?  I can't seem to find it anywhere...
[05:45] <ithiel> hi
[05:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell goemaat about w32codecs
[05:45] <jerrod> dangit! thanx guys
[05:45] <sol1> I'm getting a 2.6.15 kernel onto an ubuntu install cd.
[05:45] <intelikey> amyn that may require restarting gnome before it will show up    idk.
[05:45] <sol1> I've got everything working fine on a vanilla kernel.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> goemaat,  i normally go to the mplayer homepage and get the latest :P some times its a little more up to date.
[05:45] <sol1> Just, no /dev/rd/0
[05:45] <sol1> Does anyone know what provides a /dev/rd/0 node?
[05:46] <intelikey> sol1 udev
[05:46] <CineFX3D_> sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami` ..what does this do? I installed samba.. can this line work?
[05:46] <intelikey> sol1 udev  devfs   or  MAKEDEV
[05:46] <amyn> intelikey,  which pakage is suitable for ubuntu of videolan :- Mandrake,Debian/Linux,Fedora... which 1 shall i select ? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:46] <nalioth> amyn: vlc is in the repos
[05:46] <tritium> amyn: ubuntu packages
[05:47] <frank23> amyn: you can use synaptic to install vlc
[05:47] <intelikey> amyn did you read the messages form ubotu ?
[05:47] <sol1> intelikey: I mean't the kernel module.
[05:47] <sol1> Do you know if it's just initrd?
[05:47] <odat> will regular ubuntu install and work on a 64 bit machine?
[05:47] <amyn> intelikey, yes i did
[05:47] <CineFX3D_> how can I restart samba?
[05:47] <nalioth> odat: there are 64bit ubuntu installs
[05:47] <tritium> CineFX3D_: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[05:47] <SuShI-X2> I'm getting this debootstrap error when I'm trying to install the base package.  Any ideas?
[05:47] <intelikey> amyn did you read the wiki links that ubotu sent ?
[05:48] <odat> nalioth, yea i know but i am trying to track down an error
[05:48] <rsyncx> ugh with exim autogenerated stuff. local_domainsDEBCONF is being ignored
[05:48] <odat> nalioth, i have a machine with 2 2.6 xeon processors in it and i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2
[05:48] <rsyncx> i am trying to generate a file but it just plainly ignores the config file and sets it to localhost.localdomain
[05:48] <rsyncx> for exim4
[05:49] <nalioth> odat: wow, is that on some rare hardware?
[05:49] <amyn> intelikey, ive downloaded that .deb file thrice
[05:49] <odat> nalioth, i don't believe so there is one thing that is weird though when i install it shows to scsi drives but i know they are ide drives
[05:50] <nalioth> odat: you may need to ask in #grub
[05:51] <intelikey> amyn i'm sorry.    all i have to go on is the error message.  (short read) aka out of data  ?
[05:52] <co-band> rara
[05:52] <amyn> now when i open synaptic package installer it gave me these errors on starting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9657
[05:52] <rsyncx> does this update-exim4.conf suppose to work wholeheartedly or just sometimes?
[05:52] <rsyncx> seems like it is broken
[05:52] <rsyncx> or i am missing something
[05:52] <knite> do you guys know if there's a partition tool built into the install process of ubuntu?
[05:52] <intelikey> amyn how did you dl that file ?     cause if you use ff it probably only dled it one time and then used it's cache each consecutive time.    get the url and do a  wget -c <url>
[05:53] <knite> i.e.  can someone resize an NTFS partition?
[05:53] <Engla> amyn: hit the reload button
[05:53] <rsyncx> setting dc_local_domains variable, but it is just being ignored.
[05:53] <el_verde> how does the identify thing work?
[05:53] <rsyncx> anyone running exim here?
[05:53] <nalioth> knite: yes, there is. it's called partman
[05:53] <nalioth> knite: yes, ntfs resizing works well
[05:54] <nalioth> el_verde: /msg nickserv help register
[05:54] <knite> nalioth: integrated into the install process?
[05:54] <intelikey> knite  yes   but i sujest you shrink your partition with winxp's tool  and just leave unallocated space for your ub install.
[05:54] <nalioth> amyn: run 'check for new packages'
[05:54] <knite> intelikey: oh, i didn't know you can shrink partition in winxp itself
[05:54] <nalioth> knite: you cannot.
[05:55] <nalioth> knite: not w/o losing a partition
[05:55] <amyn> nalioth, ive already hitted reload as Engla said
[05:55] <nalioth> amyn: that should fix you up.
[05:56] <amyn> intelikey, what is the use of -c in wgetting ?
[05:57] <intelikey> i don't have winxp  but i understood that it had a partitioning tool that could resize it's ntfs partitions.
[05:57] <intelikey> amyn -c continue      i.e. if you have part of the file keep that part and get the rest.
[05:57] <nalioth> intelikey: it's destructive resizing
[05:58] <nalioth> amyn: -c 'continues' where the process stopped, if necessary
[05:58] <amyn> Error: Could not download all repro http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:58] <nalioth> amyn: run your update again
[05:58] <intelikey> nalioth you mean to tell me that M$ has not gotten past that yet......     damn !    that's really sad.
[05:59] <perry753> whats the latest Ubuntu kernel released?
[05:59] <biovore> kinda light today.. only 637 users in here..
[05:59] <babo_> what's the story with the firefox spellchecker ? I have version <IP_ADDRESS> of firefox but the spell checker won't install ?
[05:59] <babo_>  It doesn't give me any error, it just disappears from the screen. I'm installing the version for mozilla 1.5 so it should be o
[05:59] <babo_> Yes, I have asked over at #firefox
[06:00] <co-band> hallloooooooo.....
[06:00] <amyn> nalioth, did u mean to hit the Reload Button again ?
[06:00] <nalioth> amyn: yes, do that pleaes
[06:00] <babo_> Does anyone know of a good spell checker that I can use for html and web pages. I have about 4 different ones in various apps, but none of them work unfortunately
[06:01] <amyn> nalioth, yea done. NO ERRORS ATLAST lol. now how to installl VLC ?
[06:01] <Xenguy> babo_: does 'aspell' not work?
[06:01] <nalioth> amyn: search it out, select and install it
[06:01] <amyn> do i select those plugins of VLC as-well ?
[06:01] <intelikey> do i have server messages ?
[06:01] <co-band> hai......
[06:01] <CineFX3D_> how can I restart samba? /etc/rc.d is not there in ubuntu
[06:02] <nalioth> amyn: whatever you like
[06:02] <RollyW> is amd64 the same as i386?
[06:02] <lgc> nalioth, I loaded a bunch of doc packages, but I still can't manage to get the manual of "int", "fprintf" and so on.
[06:02] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: in /etc/init.d  ?
[06:02] <Krillancello> Bah.
[06:02] <nalioth> RollyW: no. i386 is for 32bit chips. amd64 is for 64bit chips (amd or intel)
[06:02] <Krillancello> Gnome won't start properly now.
[06:03] <CineFX3D_> Xenguy: nah, can't find smb there
[06:03] <babo_> Xenguy: I was looking at aspell but I didn't install it for some reason ... I don't think they have a version for 1.5, but I'll check again ... thanks
[06:03] <CineFX3D_> I used to do /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
[06:03] <intelikey> nalioth you'll have to clue me in as to what you were referring to....   i see server messages scroll by along with channel messages  ?
[06:03] <fompon> is there a way to export email from thunderbird to evolution?
[06:03] <RollyW> will i386 run amd64 chips in 32 but mode?
[06:03] <RollyW> *bit
[06:04] <nalioth> RollyW: correct
[06:04] <Xenguy> babo_: sure.  Use the -H option for HTML
[06:05] <Xenguy> babo_: you can do tricks like: lynx -source http://some/url.html |aspell -H
[06:05] <nalioth> Xenguy: the console is great that way, ain't it?
[06:05] <amyn> when i marked vlc for installation. It's saying Mark Additional Requirement Changes libdvbpsi3 and libtar. Shall I select Mark , nalioth ?
[06:06] <nalioth> amyn: yes, you should.
[06:06] <Xenguy> nalioth: the cli is our friend :-)
[06:06] <babo_> Xenguy: ok, so I have aspell installed ... can I use it from the firefox gui ? I can't see any tool tab ?
[06:07] <lgc> nalioth, HELP, don't ignore me!
[06:07] <amyn> nalioth, it says ' Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade' details: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9658
[06:07] <Xenguy> babo_: re FF: no idea about that particular combination
[06:07] <jrattner1> How can I accept a Windows Xp "help inviation" and connect to the system
[06:07] <intelikey> aspell ispell pspell myspell
[06:07] <Xenguy> babo_: perhaps there is an extension (I really don't know for sure)
[06:07] <rsyncx> shit exim4 reconfigure is broken
[06:08] <babo_> Xenguy: hmmm ... but it's a firefox add in right ? It would only make sense that you could use it from the gui, since firefox usually isn't a cli program ?  ... anyway cool, I'll go and find out - thanks
[06:08] <gleesond> what file do I configure to give my computer a static IP
[06:08] <rsyncx> by standard local_domains must be taken from conf file but it is just being created on the fly by the script from 'localhost'
[06:08] <rsyncx> and other ones/.
[06:09] <nalioth> lgc: you haven't said anything
[06:09] <nalioth> amyn: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please
[06:10] <lgc> nalioth, I did.  But I still can't make the good old "man fprintf" work. Any ideas?
[06:10] <ubuntu> hi
[06:10] <jrattner1> How can I access a windows RAInvitation.msrcincident from linux?
[06:10] <oranged> cheers
[06:10] <nalioth> lgc: browse to /usr/share/docs/
[06:11] <ubuntu> who says "cheers"?
[06:11] <oranged> can someone give me a hand troubleshooting a python error with smeg?
[06:11] <intelikey> lgc http://tldp.org
[06:11] <ubuntu> Sorry, I didn't change my user name
[06:11] <lgc> nalioth, There's no such directory
[06:11] <amyn> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9659
[06:11] <intelikey> lgc http://tldp.org
[06:12] <jrsims> I've installed xorg, but I can't run startx. Help!
[06:12] <nalioth> lgc: if you don't have /usr/share/doc  you are in big trouble
[06:13] <bebeth> hi
[06:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jrsims about xcfg
[06:13] <intelikey> amyn i see multi-lines for universe.  no main
[06:13] <lgc> nalioth, why? I have /usr/share/doc. intelikey I'm looking at the page. Thanks.
[06:14] <RollyW> does ubuntu auto detect and install hardware drivers... becuse i suspect that my video card isnt doing everything it should?
[06:14] <nalioth> lgc: in that directory is all the docs you have installed
[06:14] <amyn> intelikey, what does that mean ?
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RollyW: It tries to auto-detect, and it installs/configures teh open source drivers.  You may be able to get better performance from the official vendor-made ones.
[06:14] <bebeth> hi zibby!
[06:14] <amyn> intelikey, and what's wrong with that ?
[06:14] <RollyW> do they support linux driverS?
[06:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell amyn about easysource
[06:15] <nalioth> amyn: use that page for a good sources.list
[06:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RollyW: Some more than others.  nVidia provides excellent linux drivers, ATI not so much.
[06:15] <malt> Hello how would i add a ftp user in proftpd? i was reading howto and it said this setting for doing ftp user account is set in /etc/passwd what would i put in passwd to make a ftp user account for directory /var/www/
[06:15] <Xenguy> babo_: aspell is a generic cli spellchecker (I didn't know you were specifically looking for FF tool)
[06:15] <lgc> nalioth, you mean they went to never-never land?
[06:15] <RollyW> damn. so likely my x800 wont work as well under linux?
[06:16] <nalioth> lgc: i have several hundred folders in my /usr/share/doc, each corresponding to a program or way to do things
[06:16] <sagarp> when i plug in a usb device and dmesg says something like "using address 4" how can i access it? where is it created in /dev?
[06:16] <babo_> Xenguy: anything that would let me check the spelling on my websites would be perfect.
[06:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RollyW: Probably not.  You should see an increase in performance from switching to the official ATI drivers, but it won't be spectacular.
[06:16] <Spudchat> malt: proftpd uses allready existing user accounts on the machine..so the password is the same as the account
[06:17] <Xenguy> babo_: here's one way :-)  'lynx -source http://some/url.html |aspell --lang="en" -H list'
[06:17] <Xenguy> babo_: cli, no quotes
[06:17] <RollyW> because. the issues im having are with dvd's. The video seems gorssly off the audio, and most of the time it doesnt even render propely. Closes itself at certain scene switches. Also, Tux racing lags :P
[06:17] <RollyW> *grossly
[06:17] <lgc> nalioth, I swear I haven't messed with that directory. I even have access to countless man pages.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:19] <ubuntu> shit
[06:19] <Xenguy> bah
[06:19] <ubuntu> shit
[06:19] <fompon> whats a good binary usenet client?
[06:19] <nalioth> fompon: pan
[06:19] <ubuntu> fucke
[06:19] <Spudchat> malt, also though i cant find the exact link right now http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page has a good howto on setting up proftpd
[06:20] <dli> after installation, how do I allow upgrading from network?
[06:20] <fompon> nalioth: thanks
[06:20] <nalioth> dli: your system will automatically check for updates, and let you know about them
[06:20] <Keyframe> how can I access windows box from linux? I have samba on ubuntu and I can access ubuntu box on windows..but not the way around?
[06:20] <gleesond> can someone tell me where the rc.conf lives?
[06:20] <fompon> nalioth: you wouldnt happen to know of any quickpar-like par2 program would you?
[06:20] <dli> nalioth, I'm using apt-cdrom right?
[06:20] <Spudchat> Keyframe, if you want to use remote desktop try rdesktop
[06:21] <dli> nalioth, and the system will auto do sources.list?
[06:21] <intelikey> gleesond i don't think there is one.
[06:21] <FlannelKing> Spudchat: he was talking about through samba, I think.
[06:21] <nalioth> fompon: sure i do. use par2
[06:21] <intelikey> gleesond /etc
[06:21] <nalioth> dli: if you have no network you need not worry about network updates, if you do have network, see above statement
[06:22] <Spudchat> allright hang on
[06:22] <gleesond> intelikey: i didn't see one in /etc
[06:22] <dli> nalioth, I just configured network
[06:22] <Keyframe> Spudchat: but I have samba working like this.. I can see linux box in windows.. I wish to mount somehow windows box in linux.. do I need samba on windows also or I need to make my Linux samba PDC and log windows onto it?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> windows
[06:23] <nalioth> dli: then your system will keep you informed
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> windows's networn neighborhood stuff is their 'samba' :P
[06:23] <gleesond> can anyone tell me how to set up a static up for my box
[06:23] <Keyframe> :P
[06:23] <Keyframe> seriously now :)
[06:23] <dli> nalioth, if I apt-get install foo, the system will look up from network also?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Keyframe,  it may just be easier to use ssh and 'winscp' under linux.
[06:23] <nalioth> dli: yes, it should.
[06:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dli about repos
[06:23] <FlannelKing> gleesond: you're using ubuntu? kubuntu? no GUI?
[06:23] <Spudchat> Keyframe, im sorry but thats more than i know about samba
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Keyframe,  but samba is doable.  just may take a little reading and tweaking.
[06:24] <gleesond> kubuntu
[06:24] <nalioth> dli: read waht the bot says, and enable universe and multiverse repositories
[06:24] <gleesond> but I don't use the GUI very much
[06:24] <Spudchat> wait, did you try smb://windowsmachineiphere ?
[06:24] <Jambon> is the mozilla version of firefox any faster than the one in dapper?
[06:24] <Keyframe> Dr_Willis: Yea says I need to make PDC or something..bleh.. can't it work both ways since it works this way.. damn
[06:24] <lgc> nalioth, I was wrong. The info was in "doc" and not "docs". Hee-Ho! (I'm an ass****)! But still, I still can't see it clear, how I make my damn online C manuals work (excuse my naive impatience).
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Keyframe,  hmm.. i never messed with PDC stuff..
[06:25] <dli> nalioth, thanks, the howto is clear now
[06:25] <nalioth> lgc: you have three types of manual on your box  1) man  2) info and 3) the /usr/share/doc directory
[06:25] <gleesond> false alarm, my box already has a static ip
[06:26] <lgc> nalioth, I suppose the first 2 read from the last one...
[06:27] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: nope, they all have their own sources.
[06:27] <janno> !deb
[06:27] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[06:27] <Vylar1978> if your mouse locks up on you to were it won't move how do you shut down the computer by key command
[06:28] <Spudchat> Vylar1978, ctrl + alt + backspace restarts the desktop interface
[06:28] <Spudchat> maybe that will fix it?
[06:28] <dli> Vylar1978, or Ctl-Alt-F1
[06:29] <Vylar1978> thanks
[06:30] <lgc> nalioth_zZz, you are right. Yet I still can get what I want from "info" ("info fprintf" or "info int" still don't work).
[06:33] <majd> hey, i get a NAT error when i test port 47715 in Azureus, i'm behind a linksys router...what port should i use?
[06:33] <_jason> lgc: I think manpages-dev provide that
[06:33] <clever`rev> you just have to open the port azurues is told to use
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> majd,  several ports should be forwarded i belive.. the azurues homepage/docs/help mention them