[07:07] <RagBal> I just installed Ubuntu core 13.04 rootfs on my BeagleBone Black and booted it, I statically configured eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces but I still have no network connection. Am i forgetting something?
[13:40] <angeloc> Hi guys, yesterday I announced MKU on Ubuntu devel discuss
[13:40] <angeloc> this is the email
[13:40] <angeloc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-May/014552.html
[13:41] <angeloc> is is there someone who wants to try it say me what he thinks?
[14:20] <reisei> hi, all! I'm using ubuntu on the Nexus 7. I'm trying to rotate screen in the landscape orientation, but the touch input rotates wrong. How can I rotate the screen properly?
[14:21] <reisei> I tried xrotate and xrandr
[16:39] <reisei> Thank you very much.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> ogra_: so I was trying out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/current/ on the N7
[18:44] <shadeslayer> ogra_: and it boots, and ttyACM0 comes up, I can run run screen on it, and it all works, except the OEM thingum doesn't come up
[18:45] <shadeslayer> and the screen is completely blank, so you can't add a user and therefore I can't login via /dev/ttyACM0 as well
[20:48] <OurMaNdO|W> anyone know a good wifi adapter for the beaglebone black


[09:15] <pkern> tzdata in precise is ancient. ):
[09:25] <Laney> pkern: marga is going to do the update it seems
[09:25] <Laney> you both pointed it out at the same time
[09:26] <seb128> pkern, we are discussing it on #ubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <Laney> should be more on top of that though
[09:26]  * Laney looks for an announce list
[10:28] <pkern> Laney: Yeah, we're in the same room. ;)
[10:29] <Laney> heh
[10:53] <seb128> ok, tzdata updates sponsored
[10:54] <seb128> if somebody of the SRU team could review those today ^
[10:54] <seb128> it fixes bug #1222345
[10:54] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1222345 in tzdata (Ubuntu Raring) "Wrong DST dates in Israel" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222345
[11:20] <seb128> infinity, cjwatson, slangasek, stgraber, bdmurray, ScottK, RAOF, Daviey: ^ (sorry for the direct ping but precise to raring are currently buggy, dst ended up when it shouldn't have)
[11:24] <pkern> lucid is as buggy, fwiw.
[11:25] <Laney> yeah, should be done too
[11:28] <seb128> right, added that one to the list, marga is going to do it as well, thanks for pointing it out
[12:15] <ScottK> seb128: I can look at it in probably half an hour or so.
[12:15] <seb128> ScottK, thanks
[12:39] <ScottK> seb128: The precise upload looks like it was supposed to be the one for lucid based on version and debian/changelog entries that got dropped.
[12:40] <ScottK> tzdata (2013d-0ubuntu0.10.04) precise; urgency=low
[12:41] <seb128> ScottK, shrug, thanks, indeed (well, there was 2 uploads to precise, rejecting the buggy one)
[12:42] <seb128> ScottK, done, only the correct one is left in the precise queue
[12:43] <ScottK> Found the good one.  Much better.
[12:44] <ScottK> seb128: Are you doing lucid too?
[12:44] <seb128> ScottK, yes, I'm going to reupload that buggy one with the correct changelog target, thanks for catching it
[12:45] <zul> can i get an archive admin to review dogpile.cache and dogpile.core in binary-new, keystone is pretty broken without them (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1222802)
[12:45] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1222802 in Ubuntu "FFE: dogpile.core and dogpile.cache" [Undecided,New]
[12:53] <infinity> seb128: Thanks for the tzdata stuff, I was actually going to do that today.
[13:01] <xnox> infinity: any opinions on executing bug #1213463
[13:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1213463 in groundcontrol (Ubuntu) "Please remove bzr-gtk source and binary from saucy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213463
[13:03] <infinity> xnox: It leaves a sour taste in my mouth that we're not willing to maintain it, but meh.  Happy to remove it if it has no rdeps.
[13:04] <xnox> infinity: well, there is groundcontrol that does lp.net screenscraping (which probably also suffered from bit-rot)
[13:04] <infinity> Yeah, I'm seeing that.
[13:05] <xnox> infinity: imho, it's more important to get the maintainance release of bzr into the archive though with all the bugfixes it has accumulated.
[13:05] <xnox> infinity: but you do know how liberal my approaches to removals are ;-)
[13:06] <infinity> xnox: As a general rule, I prefer not to remove packages but, in this case, it'll either push someone to fix them, or they'll just disappear.  Meh.
[13:09] <ScottK> seb128: All in.  Thanks.
[13:09] <seb128> ScottK, thanks for the reviews!
[13:10] <seb128> ScottK, infinity: can we get those copied to updates before a week if we get the verification done?
[13:10] <ScottK> Yes.
[13:10] <xnox> infinity: i've raised the issue with jelmer, and he said should be removed.
[13:10] <infinity> Absolutely.
[13:10] <infinity> xnox: I already removed them.
[13:10] <xnox> \o/
[13:10] <infinity> Oh man, someone accepted code-of-conduct-signing-assistant?
[13:10] <infinity> Fun...
[13:34] <ScottK> pkern: What time is it supposed to be in Israel right now?
[13:34] <Laney> google tells me 16:34
[13:37] <ScottK> Thanks.
[13:37] <ScottK> Quantal works.
[13:37] <ScottK> err Raring
[13:38] <xnox> the bug will start in 3 weeks time...
[13:39] <ScottK> Oh.
[13:39] <ScottK> Right.
[13:39] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#tzdata
[13:39] <Laney> that tells you how to verify tzdata srus
[13:41] <seb128> ScottK, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1222345/comments/16
[13:41] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1222345 in tzdata (Ubuntu Raring) "Wrong DST dates in Israel" [High,Fix committed]
[13:41] <ScottK> Laney: Thanks.
[13:42] <ScottK> seb128: Thanks.  I read that and then forgot about it.
[13:46] <ScottK> OK, verified that correctly and it's right.
[13:47] <seb128> excellent!
[13:51] <ScottK> precise is good too.
[14:05] <rsalveti> slangasek: ScottK: sorry if someone asked this already, but would you mind checking bug 1220588 (FFe)? we're trying to land the gst-plugins-bad support for touch (using the hardware decoders from android) this week, and for that we'd need gst 1.1.4
[14:05] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1220588 in gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update GStreamer stack to 1.1.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220588
[14:07] <infinity> rsalveti: Approved.  Please close the bug once it's all uploaded.
[14:08] <rsalveti> infinity: awesome, thanks!
[14:08] <rsalveti> Laney: ^
[14:08] <Laney> ty
[14:09] <Laney> rsalveti: If you've time you can upload/sync what's in the PPA except for libav
[14:09] <Laney> rsalveti: Otherwise I'll get to it tomorrow
[14:10] <rsalveti> Laney: sure
[14:10] <Laney> Would be good for jhodapp's stuff to turn up quite soon, btw
[14:11] <rsalveti> Laney: yeah, that's what we want to get going this week (we're in a sprint in lexington atm)
[14:11]  * Laney nods
[14:11] <Laney> rsalveti: did the hybris fix come in?
[14:12] <jbicha> Laney: it looks like the Ubuntu GNOME iso cronjob is still disabled?
[14:12] <Laney> is it?
[14:12] <Laney> lemme see
[14:12] <Laney> yes, yes it is
[14:12] <Laney> fixed
[14:13] <seb128> ScottK, thanks a lot of helping on those tzdata SRUs!
[14:13] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[14:13] <Laney> jbicha: in time for your spin today, so I'll let it happen automatically
[14:13] <ScottK> I just released p - r.  I forgot to mash accept on Lucid, so I'll test/release that once it's published.
[14:19] <zul> infinity: ping https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1222802
[14:19] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1222802 in Ubuntu "FFE: python-dogpile.core and python-dogpile.cache" [Undecided,New]
[14:20] <infinity> zul: Can you fix the things mterry pointed out and reupload?
[14:21] <zul> infinity: sure
[14:21] <infinity> I'll do a quick NEW review here.
[14:25] <infinity> zul: Can you replace the unicode ¨ in debian/control with the ascii " instead too?
[14:25] <infinity> zul: Not sure if that'll cause any issues in any packaging frontends, but it's a bit nonstandard.
[14:25] <zul> in dogpile.cache?
[14:26] <infinity> zul: cache has the weird quotes in the long/short description, core has inconsistent quoting in its descriptions.
[14:27] <zul> infinity: k fixed locally
[14:42] <ScottK> Lucid's tested and released, so tzdata emergency is over.
[14:42] <ScottK> pkern (and marga): Thanks.
[14:50] <superm1> could someone help me understand why the mythtv upload from a few days ago hasn't migrated out of proposed?
[14:51] <Laney> superm1: did you check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html ?
[14:51] <superm1> ah no, didn't know about it.  so it's because armhf and powerpc failed
[14:52] <superm1> i'm not really sure how to go about fixing either of those though
[14:54] <cjwatson> Are they basically permanent build failures?
[14:54] <pkern> ScottK: I wonder why tzdata is not monitored more actively. But that's no question for you. ;)
[14:54] <pkern> ScottK: Thanks for acting that quickly.
[14:55] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[14:55] <cjwatson> powerpc looks easily enough fixable by including <byteswap.h>
[14:55] <ScottK> I suspect the answer is pitti used to do it and no one picked it up when he switched positions.
[14:55] <superm1> cjwatson: ah i'm happy to try that and see if it improves things (and kick it upstream if so)
[14:56] <superm1> i don't think armhf is a permanent build failure either
[14:57] <cjwatson> I don't know where QGLContext comes from OTTOMH but doesn't seem horribly difficult to look for
[14:57] <cjwatson> mythtv has enough reverse-dependencies that I do think it'd be better to tidy up properly if possible
[14:58] <infinity> The armhf failure is probably a GL/GLES confusion.
[15:27] <zul> can an archive admin review python-troveclient please  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1221981
[15:27] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1221981 in Ubuntu "[FFe] [needs-packaging] New package python-troveclient" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[15:32] <infinity> zul: Is that also going to main, or just universe initially?
[15:32] <zul> thats going into main again
[15:32] <zul> ill get adam_g to follow up with mterry
[15:52] <seb128> could somebody force chromium-browser in?
[15:52] <seb128> update_excuse has "autopkgtest for chromium-browser 29.0.1547.65-0ubuntu1: FAIL (Jenkins: public, private) "
[15:52] <seb128> but seems those tests have never been green
[15:53] <Laney> If you file a bug and about them and assign it to qengho ;-)
[15:53] <qengho> noooooo!!!!
[15:53] <qengho> Ah, alright.
[15:53] <seb128> lol
[15:54] <Laney> we shouldn't be happy with tests that never pass
[15:55] <seb128> nobody is happy about those I think
[15:55] <qengho> I should disable them until I have time to work them out.  I thought the simple tests would be a good starting point, and not cause problems.
[15:55] <xnox> well, I thought it's an achievement to get it build on armhf as it is =)
[15:55] <xnox> qengho: only if they finish with: 2>&1 || true
[15:55] <Laney> hrhr
[15:56] <seb128> Laney, qengho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1222895
[15:56] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1222895 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "the autopkgtests need to be fixed" [High,Confirmed]
[15:56] <Laney> merci monsieur
[15:56] <seb128> de rien ;-)
[15:56] <qengho> seb128: "Thanks."
[15:56] <seb128> qengho, you're welcome :p
[15:57] <Laney> k, hinted in
[15:57] <seb128> thanks
[15:57] <qengho> I should work on my french with this team. It's the only other language I have more than a few hundred words of in my head, and I never get to use it.
[15:58] <qengho> ...which means it's probably down to far less than a few hundred now.
[16:01] <cjwatson> infinity: are you doing the weekly release mumble from lex?
[16:03] <infinity> cjwatson: I... Hrm... Maybe if I can find a room.
[16:04] <infinity> Let me see.
[16:11] <slangasek> infinity: no more bzr-gtk?!  sadness
[16:11] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, it's really hurting my feelings.
[16:11] <infinity> (die, die, die)
[16:12] <slangasek> :(
[16:12] <infinity> slangasek: You're welcome to fix it.
[16:28] <sil2100> infinity: hello! By any chance, were you able to take a look at the XIM SRU bits for nux/unity raring? Sorry for being so annoying about that ;)
[16:52] <zul> what does "xxx has no binaries on any arch " mean?
[16:54] <cjwatson> zul: Didn't build anywhere, usually
[16:56] <zul> cjwatson:  launchpad is complaning about "Some binary packages for this source are not yet published in the repository"
[16:56] <cjwatson> what package?
[16:58] <zul> python-dogpile.cache
[16:58] <cjwatson> binary NEW
[16:59] <cjwatson> processed now
[16:59] <zul> cool thanks
[16:59] <zul> cjwatson:  can check python-lesscpy as well please?
[17:01] <cjwatson> zul: what's to check?  it's in saucy
[17:01] <zul> cjwatson:  arrgh ok sorry about that
[17:02] <cjwatson> np
[17:27] <slangasek> infinity: bzr-gtk is so fragile I can't even get bzr merge-upstream to work on it, so yeah, guess I'm not saving it.
[17:49] <superm1> the armhf failure seems resolvable for now at least by turning off VAAPI for that build until upstream can sort it out, but PPC isn't just a matter of including byteswap.h, it's already actually done and that code hasn't changed AFAICT since last successful build.  maybe toolchain changes have caused this behavior i'm wondering
[18:00] <smoser> hey all.
[18:00] <smoser> release team question.
[18:00] <smoser> openstack havana will release same day as ubuntu 13.10 (october 17).
[18:01] <smoser> so we're guaranteed to have a zero day sru for openstack components (at least in version-name).
[18:02] <smoser> i'm wondering what the correct path is to make the release / SRU team aware of this, as we want to ship SRU to 13.10 as soon as possible after tarballs arrive for openstack havana
[18:05] <stgraber> just upload to saucy-proposed as soon as you have the packages ready
[18:06] <stgraber> anything in there usually gets turned into a 0-day SRU on release day (after we cleanup anything in there that failed to migrate to saucy before release)
[18:06] <stgraber> so you're likely to have the new openstack in -proposed at release time (or very shortly after) and into -updates after the usual SRU validation process
[18:12] <smoser> stgraber, well, can i / should i open place holder bugs ?
[18:12] <smoser> and i'd kind of like uber-fast-path in possibly unlikely case that these are simple release renames.
[18:12] <stgraber> smoser: yes, it's going to be a standard SRU as far as validation is concerned, so the same workflow applies there
[18:13] <stgraber> smoser: getting it released early is possible and will be up to the SRU team, if the diffs only show a simple version change, I think that'd be reasonable
[18:14] <smoser> yeah. ok. so i suspct at some point i will open SRU bugs for 13.10. probably sooner than later.
[18:14] <smoser> just to have those ready to fill in with additional information.
[18:15] <rtg> xnox, I uploaded linux-meta-goldfish if you would be so kind as to NEW it when it appears in the queue.
[18:18] <ogra_> infinity, (or cjwatson) could one of you take a look why autopilot doesnt seem to migrate out of proposed ? the excuses page says "Valid Candidate", while there is a dep-wait on ppc (but thats there longer already and former uploads odf autopilot seem to have migrated nontheless)
[18:34] <infinity> ogra_: There's no dep-wait on powerpc.  It builds on PPC and is uninstallable.
[18:38] <infinity> ogra_: libautopilot-qt was upgraded from a recommends to a depends, and it's not available on PPC.
[18:39] <infinity> ogra_: So, if that dependency is true, autopilot-touch shouldn't be built on PPC.
[18:50] <ogra_> infinity, well, it seems to hold back autopilot, not autopilot-touch
[18:50] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot-qt/1.3+13.10.20130814-0ubuntu1/+build/4875820
[18:51] <ogra_> (and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/autopilot/1.3.1+13.10.20130906.1-0ubuntu1 for autopilot itself)
[18:51] <ogra_> oh, ignore that :P
[18:52] <ogra_> (indeed it also holds back -touch, but also all other binaries)
[18:59] <zul> can someone get python-troveclient out of binary-new please?
[18:59] <zul> its pending publication
[19:05] <infinity> ogra_: Yeah, sources move as a whole. :P
[19:06] <ogra_> infinity, i forwarded the info to doanac ... he owns autopilot
[22:34] <ScottK> Keep the old one and reject the new one?
[22:38] <ScottK> And that one rejected the old and kept the new.
[22:38] <ScottK> Surely one of those is wrong.


[13:53] <manadart> stickupkid or achilleasa: Can I get a quick review of https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12351 ?
[13:54] <stickupkid> manadart, me check
[13:57] <manadart> I have to change it.
[13:57] <stickupkid> booo
[14:00] <manadart> stickupkid: It's actually fine. Let me add a comment.
[14:01] <manadart> stickupkid: Done. Carry on.
[14:20] <jam> morning all
[14:39] <Hybrid512> o/
[14:40] <Hybrid512> Hi
[14:41] <Hybrid512> I find juju sometimes quite slow to detect changes (like a machine that has been rebooted ... sometimes it says that an app or a unit is active for minutes before detecting it is down)
[14:41] <Hybrid512> is there a way to speed things up ?
[14:41] <Hybrid512> force a model status refresh or something ?
[14:52] <jam> Hybrid512, what version of Juju? I thought that newer Juju does faster detection (older juju used a "have you pinged within the last 1min or something to that effect"), new ones use active connections to the controller, though stopped packets could look like connected sockets that are actually dead
[14:52] <Hybrid512> latest
[14:53] <Hybrid512> 2.8.6
[14:54] <Hybrid512> I had a very simple deployment (one mysql-innodb-cluster app on 3 VMs), I just powered off the VMs and it took a few minutes before juju detected the whole deployment as down
[14:54] <Hybrid512> machines appeared down quite fast but lxd containers, units and even apps ... it took longer
[14:55] <jam> I thought we did liveliness pings, but socket connections when broken I think do have a kernel default of 2.5min before they are killed
[14:55] <Hybrid512> sometimes, especially in case of hard failure, it could be usefull to be able to trigger a detection by hand
[14:55] <jam> There isn't really a way to speed it up, as the controller doesn't ping the agents, it is the agents reporting in that tells us they are alive.
[14:56] <jam> Hybrid512, and the problem is that in the Kernel, it hasn't decided
[14:56] <jam> they are dead yet.
[14:56] <Hybrid512> couldn't it be forced ?
[14:57] <Hybrid512> I mean, I know that my whole setup is down but I want to make sure the status is clean before restarting things
[14:57] <Hybrid512> in some situations, you would like things to be a bit faster
[14:58] <Hybrid512> it's like the --force when you destroy a model ... when you want to kill a deployment, you just don"t care to wait for the system to cleanly remove every relations, units, ... you just kill everything and that's fine
[14:59] <Hybrid512> so having something similar to just clean a status, that would be great
[15:01] <Hybrid512> for example, I just did it right now, same deployment (mysql-innodb-cluster on 3 VMs), everything was green than I shutoff the VMs through MaaS at once
[15:01] <Hybrid512> I did it about a minute ago ... everything is still green in my juju status
[15:01] <Hybrid512> not even a machine is marked as down
[15:02] <Hybrid512> starting to go down just now ... and not all of them
[15:02] <jam> Hybrid512, when you power off a machine TCP doesn't sent a Shutdown packet, thus we don't see them disconnecting, vs just being idle (IIRC)
[15:02] <jam> I *think* we have the ability to force clients to respond to a "are you still alive" packet, but IIRC we were using it mostly from the client to the controller "is the controller still available". I'd have to check.
[15:02] <Hybrid512> can it be tweaked ?
[15:03] <Hybrid512> controller -> agents checks would be nice, even if done forcefully by hand only in some situations
[15:08] <Hybrid512> another question : I already asked for this one but never had an answer ... is it possible to map juju models to MaaS tags or even better, MaaS Resource Pools ?
[15:09] <Hybrid512> it is quite complicated to clearly see what machines are used by what Juju model within the MaaS UI
[15:09] <Hybrid512> it would be really great to map a Juju Model to a MaaS resource pool when deploying a bundle to a MaaS cloud with Juju
[15:09] <jam> Hybrid512, so we do tag each instance with the model uudi, but probably not in a way that MAAS exposes it as such.
[15:10] <jam> I know there have been some requests from MAAS recently for updating the set of tags that we use to interact with it
[15:10] <Hybrid512> would be really great (and a lot more readable) to create a Resource Pool for these machines mapped on the juju model
[15:10] <Hybrid512> would make more sens than tags to me (but tags is already a good option)
[15:10] <jam> MAAS resource pools are relatively new, so not something that we're leveraging yet. There is also the question of should we be targetting an existing pool, or should we be pulling instances out of a 'generic' pool and putting them into an explicit one.
[15:11] <jam> I thought pools were an Admin level construct, and if Juju asked MAAS for a machine in a pool, then it *couldn't* use a machine that wasn't already labeled as part of that pool.
[15:12] <Hybrid512> well, from my perspective, you should just create a resource pool with the model name and allocate deployed machines inside that pool
[15:12] <Hybrid512> btw, tags could be a good alternative but as far as I can see, my machines don't have any "visible" tag within MaaS ui with the model name
[17:13] <stickupkid> achilleasa, if you get a chance https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12352


[01:10] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I think I fixed my RSS feed, using https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-wisconsin.org%2Fblog%2Ffeed
[01:12] <tsimonq2> pleia2: so I'll wait and see :)
[06:47] <pleia2> tsimonq2: yep, that worked :)
[07:57] <Kilos> o/
[17:26] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I saw :)


[00:22] <spiekey> hi
[00:22] <spiekey> anyone awake? i thin ki found a bug but i am not sure if its a ubuntu issue?!
[00:28] <stickystyle> spiekey: just say what you have.
[00:32] <spiekey> stickystyle: smbldap-populate is running into an error on hardy
[00:32] <spiekey> failed to modify entry: attribute 'sambaNextRid' not allowed at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 492, <GEN1> line 241.
[00:32] <spiekey> it works with the latest development realease of smbldap-tools
[00:41] <stickystyle> spiekey: I'm not familiar with the package, and I don't see any listed bugs at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smbldap-tools that sound like that...when you say latest dev release, are you talking about debian upstream, or from the developers of the package?
[00:42] <spiekey> from the developer
[00:42] <spiekey> i came across it here: https://mail.gna.org/public/smbldap-tools-tech/2008-02/msg00001.html
[00:52] <stickystyle> spiekey: Hum, 0.9.5 that the post mentions isn't even in debian experimental yet.  You could file a bug report in launchpad, to get the ball rolling on the fix, but if you need it right now you may just want to go with development version you found that works.
[00:55] <spiekey> i will try to file a bug then
[00:55] <spiekey> i have never done that before :)
[00:58] <stickystyle> Just go to the link i just sent and click the report bug button, you will need a launchpad account.  For the most part its just fill in the blanks
[01:40] <spiekey> thx
[01:40] <spiekey> n8n8
[03:11] <cviniciusm> Hello, I configured with sucess Postfix with dovecot authentitcation and encryption by the Server Guide. What's the next steps, please?
[03:56] <firecrotch> Alrighty, I'm a moron.... I can't find the md5 for the hardy server ISO.... can someone point me in the right direction?
[03:57] <firecrotch> nevermind, found it
[06:41] <osmosis> i finally finished my  munin libvirt plugin.
[06:59] <osmosis> http://stuffexists.com/munin-libvirt.py
[08:21] <hsn_> !opera
[10:05] <ivoks> zul: i think i got this pgsql thing solved
[10:05] <zul> ivoks: sweet
[14:44] <ivoks> sommer: !!!
[14:44] <ivoks> what's up?
[14:44] <ivoks> :)
[14:51] <sommer> yo
[15:43]  * delcoyote willdo
[16:18] <reya276> anyone in?
[16:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell reya276 about anyone
[16:19] <reya276> I keep getting this error on my mail.log
[16:19] <reya276> "May 18 11:12:40 krusty postfix/smtpd[17075]: warning: SASL authentication problem: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory "
[16:19] <reya276> how can I fix this issue
[16:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> does the file exist?
[16:19] <reya276> due to this I can send out any emails
[16:20] <reya276> can't
[16:20] <reya276> don't know
[16:20]  * Kamping_Kaiser can hardly remember setting up sasl :(
[16:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> reya276, `ls -lh /etc/sasldb2`
[16:20] <reya276> ls: cannot access /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory
[16:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> it doesnt exist, thats why you cant find it ;)
[16:27] <immesys> hey, how do I get my server to shut down nicely when I press the power button?
[16:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> immesys, is it acpi complient/compatible?
[16:29] <immesys> yup
[16:30] <immesys> in gnome, my other ubuntu pc gives the shutdown window so that you can choose. but my server is headless. So I want it to just assume that I want to shut down and just go ahead with it
[16:31] <mralphabet> reya276: did you use tasksel to install postfix?
[16:33] <reya276> mralphabet: tasksel?
[16:33] <reya276> mralphabet:  don't know what that is
[16:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> immesys, i thought pressing the power button on a headless box would turn it off
[16:35] <reya276> mralphabet:  apparently SASL certificates are already setup but where?
[16:36] <immesys> Kamping_Kaiser: me too, but not working for me
[16:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> immesys, "odd". which releaes?
[16:37] <immesys> hardy
[16:37] <reya276> mralphabet: also how can I find out what the smtp_sasl_type is?
[16:38] <immesys> if i hold it in, it dies.. but thats not the kind of shutdown i want
[16:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> immesys, holding for 6 seconds is an acpi hard shutdown
[16:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> immesys, have you checked the BTS for not-shutting-down bugs?
[16:39] <immesys> BTS?
[16:39] <immesys> oh launchpad?
[16:39] <immesys> no... I thought it was an upstart config thing
[16:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> i expect it is, but if its not enabled by default that would be a bug, which i expect to be filed
[16:40] <immesys> ok.. I'll check.. thanks
[16:46] <immesys> nothing I can see on laucnhpad. Do you know where the upstart event for power button is?\
[16:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> no i dont , #upstart is all i can suggest
[16:47]  * Kamping_Kaiser doesnt use upstart, so cant help per se
[16:48] <reya276> so frustrating the damn thing won't let me authenticate
[17:46] <kraut> moin
[19:24] <unnutz> hi.. ow could i shape HTTP traffic from specified subnet *TO* server?
[19:24] <unnutz> *how
[19:45] <seq7297> hello, i'm trying to set up the network for kvm and a new network interfaced vnet0 appeared (perhaps because i installed and then removed dnsmasq package) How can I get rid of it? where does it comes from?
[19:49] <seq7297> hello, i'm trying to set up the network for kvm and a new network interfaced vnet0 appeared (perhaps because i installed and then removed dnsmasq package) How can I get rid of it? where does it comes from?
[23:42] <Ashfire908> What dhcp daemons are there that support IPv6?
[23:45] <Deeps> dhcpv6, although you dont need to use dhcp, clients on ipv6 use stateless autoconfiguration
[23:46] <Deeps> just need a route advertiser like radvd
[23:46] <Deeps> to advertise the subnet prefix


[23:22] <gry> Probably.
[23:22] <[deXter]> Stepnjump: Try looking in the accessibility settings, sticky mouse keys or something like that
[23:22] <Stepnjump> thanks deXter
[23:23] <gry> metaspike: In your case, how do you "switch to xdm successfully" other than apt-get install it?
[23:24] <metaspike> install it and remove the old one (which aptitude usually handles anyway) and ensure it is booting at start with rcconf.
[23:24] <skyl> /usr/bin/memcached -m 64 -p 11211 -u nobody -l <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:24] <zaxonspox> hello, how to enable sis900 integrated NIC in Ubuntu Natty
[23:25] <metaspike> zaxonspox,   sudo apt-get install sis
[23:26] <metaspike> check with ifconfig..
[23:26] <metaspike> *yawn* time for another coffee
[23:26] <dr_willis> !info sis
[23:27] <dr_willis> with 'sis' brand video cards.. you are often lucky you can even get to a basic desktop..
[23:27] <dr_willis> sis is rather poor in its linux support. ;(
[23:28] <zaxonspox> metaspike will it be on cd/dvd or do i need NIC to install?
[23:28] <metaspike> im afraid dr_willis has a point. umm...
[23:29] <atengesda> exit
[23:29] <atengesda> quit
[23:29] <Pickleface> hello
[23:29] <dr_willis> SiS is one of those companies you would not be suprised to hear it shut down... ;()
[23:29] <g0to> hello!
[23:30] <Pickleface> I have a GT 520 graphics card how do I get the drivers for it on ubuntu 10.04
[23:30] <g0to> does anyone knows the name of the login shell font?
[23:30] <zaxonspox> dr_willis, i did have SIS integr. video, i know that pain, but is there something that can be done?
[23:30] <dr_willis> Most nvidia cards. you just use the 'addational drivers' tool and it installs them.
[23:30] <dr_willis> zaxonspox:  check askubuntu, and the forums for your exact chipset/card. and it might have some info
[23:30] <redred> bonjour
[23:31] <Pickleface> dr_willis:  how do I get there ?
[23:31] <zaxonspox> dr_willis, askubuntu is an irc channel? or forum?
[23:32] <metaspike> Pickleface, or install nvidia-current
[23:32] <zaxonspox> metaspike, apt dont know a package named 'sis'
[23:33] <Pickleface> metaspike: erm how ?
[23:33] <dr_willis> !askubuntu
[23:33] <metaspike> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current - in terminal.
[23:34] <metaspike> !nvidia
[23:34] <metaspike> ^ that's probably a better start
[23:36] <Pickleface> wow I have no idea how to use irssi ether
[23:36] <Pickleface> how can I scroll up?Lol
[23:37] <dr_willis> pageup/pagedown
[23:37] <metaspike> zaxonspox, try this: sudo modprobe sis900
[23:37] <Pickleface> thanks
[23:37] <dr_willis> i tend to use weechat these days instead of irssi
[23:37] <metaspike> sudo ifdown eth0
[23:37] <metaspike> sudo ifup eth0
[23:38] <longcat> is there a program which will detect hardware and suggest packages to isntall to support it?
[23:38] <metaspike> unfortunately, that chip is no about as supported as an old win95 installation
[23:38] <dr_willis> longcat:  the addational drivers tool does that
[23:39] <longcat> how do i run it/what is it named
[23:39] <escott> longcat, jockey-gtk
[23:40] <fabio> hi, i need help installing a usb wireless wn727n in ubuntu 11.10
[23:40] <fabio> i do lsusb and i see it is detected
[23:40] <Pickleface> erm, how do I change my screen resolution?
[23:40] <zaxonspox> fabio, you probably need package "wvdial"
[23:41] <fabio> dial? this is a wireless card not modem u sure?
[23:42] <zaxonspox> fabio, right, then i might be wrong
[23:42] <fabio> where can i find some help on this
[23:43] <fabio> reiso: u there?
[23:43] <zaxonspox> metaspike, where could be this file be placed? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages.gz/natty/man4/sis.4freebsd.gz
[23:43] <zaxonspox> metaspike, from Ubuntu manpage http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man4/sis.4freebsd.html
[23:44] <metaspike> did u try sudo modprobe sis900
[23:46] <zaxonspox> metaspike, yes, but i did hawe "sis900" entry in lsmod after putting "if_sis_load=YES" but without good result
[23:47] <zaxonspox> metaspike, the device is still "Device unsupported" in Network-Manager
[23:48] <ed5on> boa noite
[23:48] <metaspike> sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 down && ping www.google.com
[23:48] <metaspike> *sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 up && ping www.google.com
[23:49] <metaspike> if that doesnt work... meh, dunno.
[23:49] <PureRumble> Hi all. In latest ubuntu, how do I change number of desktops?
[23:50] <FrozenInferno> Can someone tell me how to edit visudo so <user> can run sudo commands with no password?
[23:50] <clear`> PureRumble: settings // workspaces
[23:51] <OerHeks> sudo with no password, that is not safe.
[23:51] <robodoggy> Hey guys! can i install a program to a USB stick using apt-get?
[23:51] <PureRumble> clear`, See no "settings" in this latest layout. Just some bar to the left that pops out on mouse hover
[23:52] <FrozenInferno> Or, at least use sudo in a specific directory with no password.
[23:52] <dr_willis> robodoggy:  not really
[23:52] <clear`> pure, in the bar search for settings
[23:52] <clear`> your using unity?
[23:52] <wilhart> eya, where do i see ubuntu graphic card memorys
[23:52] <escott> robodoggy, thats not possible
[23:52] <longcat> is there a package required to support sandy bridge integrated graphics in 3d mode?
[23:52] <opticlove> is there a way to copy the complete system configuration to another hard drive?
[23:52] <wilhart> no way ??
[23:52] <PureRumble> clear`, I've done that. I find "system settings". No luck there
[23:52] <dr_willis> FrozenInferno:  edit the sudoers file with an entry for the way you want it to go. its documented in differnt places
[23:52] <dr_willis> !sudoers
[23:52] <escott> longcat, should work out of the box with 11.10
[23:52] <PureRumble> I use ubuntu 11.10 by the way
[23:52] <dr_willis> !sudo
[23:54] <owenll> PureRumble: compizconfig-settings-manager under general options
[23:54] <wilhart> hi, where do i see graphic card memory ?
[23:54] <Omer_> System monitor?
[23:54] <FrozenInferno> dr_willis Ok, i see how to remove the password requirement, but if that's considered unsafe, is there a way to remove it for a specific directory?
[23:55] <wilhart> Omer_: nothign called system moniroti here
[23:55] <LogicallyDashing> I'm on x64 and I need to compile something for armel. What do I have to do?
[23:55] <Omer_> Applications->System Tools->System monitor?
[23:55] <PureRumble> owenll, aaaaaaaaah. Thank you so much :)
[23:56] <Omer_> wilhart, have you tried entering the command: lspci into terminal?
[23:56] <clear`> i hate unity
[23:56] <wilhart> Omer_: yea i have
[23:56] <Omer_> lspci -v -s 00:02.0
[23:56] <owenll> PureRumble: :)
[23:56] <longcat> is there a way to use a dvdram in CAV mode isntead of CLV?  this spinning up and down is driving me insane
[23:57] <ivan__> hi
[23:57] <PureRumble> owenll, I need 9 desktops (!), so used to it. This has been driving me crazy
[23:57] <wilhart> 00:56 < ussher__> wilhart: do you have 'kinfocenter' under your 'systems' menu
[23:57] <Omer_> wilhart try grep -i --color memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:57] <wilhart> oops sory
[23:57] <wilhart> Omer_: i'm using virtualbox
[23:57] <clear`> PureRumble: i dont know how to do it on unity, on gnome-shell you just go into settings // workspaces
[23:58] <owenll> PureRumble: If ccsm isn't installed use sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:58] <PureRumble> owenll, no its cool I've already got that covered
[23:58] <PureRumble> owenll, Just couldnt find the damn thing in compiz settings!
[23:58] <ivan__> hi, can someone read me?
[23:58] <milo_> Sup.  Any ideas?
[23:58] <Omer_> killall <processname>
[23:58] <milo_> Ivan, I read you. 10-4 buddy.
[23:59] <Omer_> Or go to System Monitor and cancel it manually
[23:59] <LogicallyDashing> milo_: to find the processes those are use lsof
[23:59] <Melissa> i want to run W7 for an online game I have and run Ubuntu for evertythiung else.  Whatrs best way to install?  W7 first or install Ubuntu first?  and can I run W732bit and Ubuntu 64bit on the same laptop?
[23:59] <yumbo> Melissa, which game?
[23:59] <milo_> Yeah, I typed lsof in. Still reading through it.  Or I can kill the processes accociated all at onece?
[23:59] <Melissa> yumbo: battlefield 2142
[23:59] <vsync_> 10 bucks says wow


[22:11] <wfamy> is there a method to launch a script with upstart and have it all done before prompt or any-dm?
[22:40] <JanC> wfamy: you can make "any-dm" and the prompt wait for an event that you raise only after the script is done
[22:42] <wfamy> ok but i have to emit a signel in my upstart script and patch the initial gdm kdm to start on script-signal. I do not found this very clean.
[22:42] <wfamy> Before Sys V I just have to tell s19 for my script and S20 for the xdm
[22:43] <wfamy> I was easy to install in a simple post nstall debian script in the package. Now I am very confused.
[22:59] <JanC> upstart is still pretty new, I guess in the future it will become easier to do such things
[23:01] <ion> bar.conf: ‘start on starting foo’ → bar blocks the startup of foo, until bar is running (service) or done (task).
[23:02] <wfamy> sure but is there any doc url explain how to do it? I am not able to migrate my customer's server from lenny debian to lucid because of that.
[23:02] <JanC> wfamy: syntax is in the section 5 manpage
[23:17] <wfamy> I only found events doc http://linux.die.net/man/5/events but i do not found any help
[23:19] <wfamy> man 5 init same thing
[23:21] <wfamy> the simple test scrip use a yesno dialog box  and it apear when shutdown the computer
[23:22] <ion> The man page you linked is for an old version of Upstart
[23:26] <wfamy> a end before EVENT [[KEY=]VALUE]... [and|or...] could be a nice feature.
[23:41] <JanC> you can do that now, just requires some editing of upstart .conf files -- IIRC the next version of upstart will make some things easier though
[23:43] <JanC> maybe some way to add conditions from a different file might be useful...
[23:47] <wfamy> my .deb script have to edit /etc/init/after-script.conf and it is for my opignon a little dirty. If I modify gdm.conf i have to modify when remove my-script.deb
[23:48] <wfamy> 2 days ago my server stop booting because of a drbd not launch before the postgres or other thing but i don't know
[23:50] <wfamy> Ok thx for help I go to bed. see you i'll try to found a solution.
[23:52] <ion> What’s after-script.conf?
[23:54] <wfamy> here it could be gdm.conf
[23:55] <ion> my-script.conf: start on starting gdm
[23:55] <wfamy> I try it but it does not work because of dialog ?


[01:23] <mhall119> too bad, it would make sense for them to use XMir
[13:52] <smartboyhw> Any CC members here?
[13:52] <smartboyhw> I want some advice on some issues.
[14:06] <Pendulum> smartboyhw: they're less likely to be on IRC during the weekend. I'd suggest sending e-mails.
[14:08] <smartboyhw> Pendulum, I don't want to involve the entire CC at this moment.
[14:24] <Pendulum> smartboyhw: so e-mail one of the members. You can probably get their e-mail through launchpad (or look on their wikipage). If there are any members you particularly like or trust, I'd try them first.
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Pendulum, alright. I will ask somebody soon.
[14:27] <SergioMeneses> morning!
[14:27] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, hi!
[14:28] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, hows everything?
[14:28] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, good.
[14:28] <SergioMeneses> :)
[14:30] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, actually not. Look at http://lwn.net/Articles/556517/
[14:30] <smartboyhw> ARGUMENT!
[14:30] <SergioMeneses> I read something about it yesterday, thanks for the link
[14:35] <jared> Not so much an argument as one user trying to make a fool of themselves really.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> jared, +1
[14:37] <jared> If I were the site I would have shut down those threads long ago, it's gone so off topic
[14:39] <smartboyhw> jared, +1
[14:47] <SergioMeneses> jared, totally agree
[15:16] <jared> SergioMeneses: cheers for the update on the loco bug.
[15:16] <SergioMeneses> jared, dont worry ;) we are workin on it :) if you have any question, feel free to ask
[15:17] <jared> SergioMeneses: more that I know the team won't pass it as it stands so I'm not going to bother putting it on a meeting. If the process changes then I might consider it but unfortunately the core group all got busy with study.
[15:18] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, how's the discussion on removing country-ized LoCos BTW?
[15:18] <smartboyhw> Not that sorry
[15:18] <smartboyhw> Allowing area or city ones
[15:19] <jared> I never understood that, I don't see how smaller areas can't already exist under the country banner. But apparently I'm in the minority.
[15:25] <SergioMeneses> sorry guys I was attending a call, about the area.city discussion, we are trying to get the best solution but it is not easy ...actually we are working on some documents and I expect that we may share all ideas as soon as possible
[15:25] <SergioMeneses> I dont see the problem with cities or areas, but we should have a guide-line about it - imho


[00:29] <mup> PR snapd#13196 opened: wrappers: install session files <Created by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13196>
[09:06] <mup> PR snapd#12992 closed: wrappers: tell user systemd instances to reload after updating snapd's user units <Created by jhenstridge> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12992>
[09:52] <mup> PR snapd#13197 opened: t/m/snapd-homedirs-vendored: disable on 23+, snapd is too new <Test Robustness> <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13197>
[12:47] <mup> PR snapd#13173 closed: gadget: add a way to reset recursive data structure <Created by valentindavid> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13173>
[12:55] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4365 opened: remote-build complains about the wrong part name <Bug> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4365>
[14:30] <mup> PR snapcraft#4366 opened: fix(environment): sort core20 project variables before replacement <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4366>
[17:44] <mup> PR snapd#13198 opened: store: use store.access to disable access to snap store <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13198>
[18:14] <mup> PR snapd#13199 opened: daemon: make tests pass with race detector <Simple 😃> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13199>
[18:44] <mup> PR snapd#12877 closed: i/b/qualcomm_ipc_router.go: switch to plug/slot and add socket permission <cherry-picked> <Created by valentindavid> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12877>
[18:54] <mup> PR snapd#13200 opened: release: 2.60.4 <Squash-merge> <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13200>
[19:50] <mup> PR snapd#13200 closed: release: 2.60.4 <Squash-merge> <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13200>


[03:00] <DeathRowe> Anyone know what kernel is supposed to be in 16.10?
[03:10] <ativauman> Hi, is anyone online right now?
[11:48] <aguitel> what is the kernel version from next ubuntu ?
[11:49] <k1l> !info linux-image-generic
[11:49] <k1l> i doub tit will stay on 4.4
[11:52] <aguitel> same 16.04 ?
[12:28] <k1l> the standard kernel seems to be 4.4 still on 16.10. but i guess it will be 4.7
[13:30] <aguitel> k1l, ok


[12:03] <jbailey> doko: In the edgy roadmap, I thought I was going to look at fully multiarch'ing glibc?
[12:03] <jbailey> And I could do lkh easily.
[12:25] <doko> jbailey: sure, let's add this as a target, maybe marking it as non-essential (may be moved to edgy+1)
[12:26] <jbailey> Right.