[00:04] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: So I've tried to fix umbrello in Zesty a few times to no avail. Could you please take a look?
[00:05] <wxl> tsimonq2: according to clivejo, don't bother. it's an issue with llvm generally being broken in ubuntu
[00:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: Fair enough, thank you.
[00:06] <wxl> cantor and kalzium are similar messed up
[00:06] <tsimonq2> print-manager looks easy. Want to take a shot at fixing it, wxl? :)
[00:07] <valorie> is anybody fixing the llvm issue in Ubuntu?
[00:07] <valorie> seems like a big issue -- we get questions about it a few times per week in #kubunt
[00:07] <valorie> u
[00:08] <valorie> they get questions in #kde-neon as well
[00:08] <tsimonq2> WHat exactly is the issue?
[00:08] <tsimonq2> *What
[00:11] <valorie> I dunno, the problems seem rather vaguely described
[00:11] <tsimonq2> bug 1365432?
[00:11] <tsimonq2> See, ovidiu-florin has been hiding it from us this whole time! :O
[00:13] <valorie> ovidiu-florin's company just got acquired by Intel
[00:13] <valorie> I think it will take a bit before he can dig out from that
[00:13] <tsimonq2> So he now works for Intel now? :D
[00:13] <valorie> yup
[00:18] <tsimonq2> Wow cool
[00:19] <tsimonq2> !info llvm-dev
[00:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_knotifications build #303: FIXED in 8 min 17 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_knotifications/303/
[00:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_knotifications build #115: FIXED in 9 min 2 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_knotifications/115/
[00:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_knotifications build #24: FIXED in 9 min 2 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_knotifications/24/
[00:23] <valorie> weeeee
 wxl @wxl23: Still in the general area?
[00:35]  * acheronuk yawns
[00:55] <wxl> tsimonq2: whatcha want?
[01:14] <[Relic]> For comments or queries on the plasma apps that come with the distro is that just kde forums?
[02:31] <wxl> anyone still awake?
[02:31]  * ahoneybun gets more coke+rum
[02:31] <wxl> tsimonq2: ?
 HAI HONEYBEAR!!!\
 .___.
[02:31] <wxl> uh oh
[02:31] <wxl> oh jeez
 I just wanted to be Rafael for a minute there. XD
[02:32] <wxl> tsimonq2: merge this https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-sdk/+merge/311880
[02:32] <tsimonq2> <.< >.>
[02:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: You ran it through wrap-and-sort RIGHT?
[02:33] <wxl> tsimonq2: the changelog entry? no.
[02:34]  * tsimonq2 facepalsm
[02:34] <tsimonq2> *facepalms
[02:34] <wxl> if you mean the lintian-overrides, yes :)
[02:34]  * ahoneybun is now out of coke
[02:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: You know about wrap-and-sort, right?
[02:34] <wxl> yep
[02:34] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Stright up rum XD
[02:34] <tsimonq2> whoops
[02:34] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Straight up rum XD
[02:34] <ahoneybun> I like being able to walk
[02:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: Good. You better become ninja soon though. I'll merge. XD
[02:37] <wxl> a strange package to start with :)
[02:37] <wxl> oops wrong channel
[02:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk build #29: STILL UNSTABLE in 9 min 3 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk/29/
[02:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-sdk build #264: STILL UNSTABLE in 9 min 9 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-sdk/264/
[02:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-sdk build #154: STILL UNSTABLE in 9 min 15 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-sdk/154/
[03:01] <tsimonq2> wxl: Fix it. :P
[03:01] <tsimonq2> wxl: -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk build #29: STILL UNSTABLE in 9 min 3 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk/29/
[03:10] <wxl> tsimonq2: have you looked at http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-mediacenter/11/parsed_console/ ? it seems to me like qt5multimedia-dev should be included as a dependency… or am i missing something?
 Nope looks right to me.
 Build it locally to be sure. wxl
 s/./,/
[03:12] <wxl> and wtf that git problem is because the optional package is not found
[03:12] <wxl> ugh
[03:12] <wxl> do you usually build in your sbuild?
 Yes
[03:13] <wxl> alright i guess i gotta fix mine up
[03:13] <DarinMiller> hi tsimonq2 and wxl.
[03:13] <wxl> hai DarinMiller
 You guys open for me to throw things at you? :)
[03:15] <DarinMiller> anyone have time to explain how to build a package in sbuild?  I have sbuild setup as per the sbuild website, but I have never built inside a build enviro.
 Sure. :)
 sbuild -d DIST-amd64-shm inside your package dir
[03:15] <wxl> tsimonq2: so were that to be the case, the issue then would be an upstream one, right?
 wxl: What *specifically*?
[03:16] <DarinMiller> ok...
[03:16] <wxl> tsimonq2: if it's missing qt5multimedia-dev as a dependency
[03:16] <wxl> no wait
[03:17] <wxl> i'm answering my own question
[03:17] <wxl> it's not
[03:18] <wxl> but then what exactly is it?
[03:18] <wxl> there's no such thing as an optional build-depends
[03:20] <wxl> i guess it would be a suggests
[03:20] <wxl> in which case, so is git with plasma-sdk
[03:20] <wxl> which it already is
[03:20] <wxl> so that doesn't necessarily fix jenkins
 Why can't you add those deps then? :)
[03:20] <wxl> well you gave me the plasma-sdk to "fix"
[03:21] <wxl> the issue is that git isn't found
[03:21] <wxl> it's not found because it's a Suggests
[03:21] <wxl> so the way i see it there's nothing to fix
[03:21] <wxl> unless we are required to build with every option
[03:22] <wxl> in which case git would HAVE to be a build-dep
 Where is it a suggests?
[03:23] <wxl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/plasma-sdk
 Well why CAN'T git be a build dep? :)
[03:24] <wxl> i'm wondering if it should be
[03:37] <ahoneybun> wxl: plasma sdk is yellow now
[03:39] <wxl> ahoneybun: yeah i know. trying to figure out how to make it green :)
[03:40] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: still on?
[03:40] <wxl> i should probably worry about the reds
 Yeee
[03:40] <ahoneybun> I'm looking at kalzium
[03:40] <wxl> ahoneybun: per clivejo, it depends on a library that's not available yet
[03:41] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: "Added libqt5opengl5-dev as build dep " is that enough of a changelog?
[03:41] <ahoneybun> wxl: yea I know but I want to get rid of the other dep issues
[03:41] <wxl> ahoneybun: i would say so
[03:41] <ahoneybun> that way once the library is in the archive we'll be good to go
[03:41] <wxl> ahoneybun: i think if you want to attack a red, your best bet is kde-runtime
[03:42] <ahoneybun> wxl: since tsimonq2 can merge I need him to approve it atm
[03:42] <ahoneybun> I'll look at kde-runtime now
[03:42] <wxl> it's a lot of errors but it's all the saem thing
 Remember, no typos or I won't approve. 😂
[03:42] <ahoneybun> well that's what I'm asking
[03:43] <ahoneybun> holy crao
[03:43] <ahoneybun> wxl: 708 errors, 3 warnings
[03:43] <ahoneybun> for kde-runtime
[03:43]  * DarinMiller raises hand
[03:44] <DarinMiller> I have both the tarball and git dl'd but I can figure out how to make sbuild run...
[03:45] <DarinMiller> I parked the git here: /home/darin/ubuntu/build/debian/
[03:45] <ahoneybun> wxl: but on LP it says successful
[03:46] <DarinMiller> from directory  /home/darin/ubuntu/build I attempt to run the sbuild it gets angry saying: /home/darin/ubuntu/build/debian/
[03:46] <DarinMiller> dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../audiocd-kio_16.04.3.orig.tar
[03:46] <wxl> DarinMiller: it does??????
[03:47] <wxl> DarinMiller: move it up the hierarchy one level
[03:47] <wxl> i'm sorry that incredulous comment was meant for ahoneybun, DarinMiller
[03:47] <ahoneybun> what?
[03:48] <wxl> ahoneybun: that kde-runtime succeeds on lp?
[03:48] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23541153/
[03:49] <wxl> give me a sec to get this schroot building and i'll check
[03:49] <DarinMiller> sbuild is still angry:  Could not parse /home/darin/ubuntu/build/debian/changelog
[03:49] <wxl> i admit i didn't dig too deep
[03:50] <wxl> DarinMiller: did you make the build directory?
[03:50] <DarinMiller> yes, I made the build dir.  Kill it?
[03:50] <wxl> DarinMiller: and the debian stuff is in there?
[03:50] <DarinMiller> the build dir is part of my virgin sbuild enviro...
 I'll help in like 5 mins if you still don't get it :)
[03:51]  * ahoneybun kicks git
[03:52] <DarinMiller> brb...
[03:53] <ahoneybun> the heck
[03:53] <ahoneybun> my push is being rejected
[03:53] <wxl> full output please
[03:53] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23541167/
[03:53] <ahoneybun> I just did a git clone
[03:54] <ahoneybun> I should not need a git pull/fetch anyway
[03:54] <ahoneybun> I do it and it says I'm uptodate
[03:54] <wxl> and then push still won't work?
[03:55] <ahoneybun> nope
[03:55] <ahoneybun> I've cloned this thing 3 times so far
[03:55] <ahoneybun> and same error
[03:55] <wxl> weird
[03:55] <wxl> what ref is HEAD pointed at?
[03:55] <ahoneybun> ?
[03:55] <wxl> top of git log
[03:56] <ahoneybun> I'm about to just delete it again and move on
[03:56] <ahoneybun> git log?
[03:56] <wxl> yep
[03:56] <wxl> give me the first ref
[03:56] <wxl> is it 776e3ccefd7ff6653ddf9904fc5e6fd449591009 ?
[03:56] <ahoneybun> ref: refs/heads/kubuntu_unstable
[03:56] <ahoneybun> I don't know what log is
[03:57] <ahoneybun> or where it is
[03:57] <wxl> git log -n1
[03:57] <ahoneybun> commit 0398f32954565394b7197593d407ffb3934895e9
[03:57] <ahoneybun> it has my commit
[03:57] <wxl> waaaaaaaaaaaaaat
[03:57] <wxl> that's not any ref you have in here!
 O_____________O
[03:58] <ahoneybun> well I've commited to my local copy
 WHAT DID UBOTTU JUST DO
[03:58] <wxl> the refs are here https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+ref/kubuntu_unstable
[03:58] <wxl> oh derp
[03:58] <wxl> what's the one after that (you can -n2 or just git log)
[03:58]  * ahoneybun deletes dir
[03:58] <ahoneybun> someone else can deal with that
[03:59] <wxl> sure you want to give up so soon?
[03:59] <wxl> that seems like a no brainer
[03:59] <ahoneybun> giving up is easy
[04:00] <ahoneybun> plus what git is doing makes no sense
[04:00] <wxl> but i'm sure we could figure it out
[04:00] <ahoneybun> it's fine
[04:01] <wxl> tsimonq2: show me your sbuild script again?
 2 mins pls
[04:03] <ahoneybun> yea I don't know why it keeps rejecting it
[04:04] <ahoneybun> Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/kubuntu_unstable'.
[04:04] <ahoneybun> I've git pull/fetch before my changes
[04:04] <ahoneybun> git commit was fine
[04:04] <wxl> git remove -v
[04:04] <ahoneybun> why?
[04:04] <ahoneybun> I did not do that last time
[04:04] <wxl> oops
[04:04] <wxl> remote i mean
[04:04] <ahoneybun> again why
[04:04] <DarinMiller> wxl: did you want the sbuild script for ppa's that simon posted yesterday?
[04:05] <wxl> DarinMiller: yes plz
[04:05] <wxl> ahoneybun: to check where you're getting stuff from/to
[04:05] <DarinMiller> wxl: I could not find the post, but I have the script: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23541206/
[04:05] <ahoneybun> I know what it does but
[04:06] <ahoneybun> origin  git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium (fetch)
[04:06] <ahoneybun> origin  git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium (push)
 $ cat bin/build-kci | pastebinit … http://paste.ubuntu.com/23541210/
 wxl ^^
[04:06] <tsimonq2> Example usage: build-kci zesty
[04:07] <tsimonq2> wxl: Have fun. ;)
[04:07] <wxl> ahoneybun: ok i have an idea. give me git log in a pastebin?
[04:08] <ahoneybun> ???
[04:08] <wxl> ahoneybun: git log | pastebinit
[04:09] <ahoneybun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23541217/
[04:10] <wxl> aw man this sucks
[04:10] <tsimonq2> commit e9c4e8f873b5989332ac40a4bb47717f3504b6bb
[04:10] <wxl> simon messed your life up
[04:10] <wxl> yup
[04:10] <tsimonq2> Huh? :P
[04:11] <wxl> compare https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+ref/kubuntu_unstable
[04:11] <tsimonq2> I win :P
[04:11] <wxl> with http://paste.ubuntu.com/23541217/
[04:11] <tsimonq2> Ah yes. Aaron needs to get with it.  Type out a long rebase command he can use to fix this mess. XD
[04:12] <ahoneybun> Simon messing things up?
[04:12] <wxl> ugh god
[04:12] <wxl> well he didn't really mess things up
[04:12] <wxl> but he did add a commit upstream that is not included in your fork
[04:12] <ahoneybun> well I'm blaming him on this
[04:12] <wxl> it's not his fault, per se
[04:12] <wxl> it's a problem that could happen to anyone of us
[04:12] <tsimonq2> I totally blame Aaron. ALWAYS READ UPSTREAM COMMIT LOGS!
[04:13] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:13] <ahoneybun> but I cloned it from our stuff
[04:13] <ahoneybun> not my fork
[04:13] <tsimonq2> git pull
[04:13] <wxl> i know
[04:13] <wxl> but you're trying to push to your repo
[04:13] <wxl> using code from outside your repo
[04:13] <wxl> they're not in sync
[04:13] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:13] <ahoneybun> I get it
[04:13] <wxl> i don't think a rebase will do this
[04:13] <ahoneybun> I could delete my repo
[04:13] <wxl> because it's not really a matter of branches
[04:13] <ahoneybun> and start from the main repo
[04:14] <wxl> i'm kind of thinking that must be the only reasonable solution but i'm all ears if someone has another idea
[04:14] <tsimonq2> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Di_fSF3MxO8/T0u-ShdD-SI/AAAAAAAAAeg/Zjpb1SD3rrU/s1600/git.png
[04:14] <ahoneybun> it's fine
[04:14] <wxl> yes but in a way these are like two separate repositories
[04:15] <tsimonq2> If you were a git master, you could export all of your commits that you made as patches and reapply them with a fresh clone. XDDDDD
[04:15] <tsimonq2> (or that's what I would do)
[04:15] <wxl> wait
[04:15] <wxl> oh
[04:15] <wxl> maybe git fetch
[04:15] <wxl> yeah try git fetch!!!
[04:15] <ahoneybun> nah
[04:15] <ahoneybun> tried that
[04:15] <ahoneybun> deleted it already
[04:16] <ahoneybun> https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+ref/kubuntu_unstable
[04:16] <wxl> there ya go
[04:17] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+merge/311886
[04:17] <ahoneybun> wxl: thankfully that was a small change
[04:18] <ahoneybun> I'm currently trying to make a few alias for myself
[04:18] <wxl> ahoneybun: yeah :)
[04:18] <ahoneybun> not going too well
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/KwI0cTOj/file_1236.mp4
[04:18] <wxl> tsimonq2: in sbuild --list do you have -amd64 AND -amd64-shm for both source and chroot
[04:19] <tsimonq2> Sorry I couldn't help myslef. :P
[04:19] <ahoneybun> I swear
[04:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: Correct.
[04:19] <wxl> ahoneybun: whatcha need an alias for?
[04:19] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: wrap-and-sort dude!
[04:19] <wxl> oh so i guess i didn't delete my old one :)
[04:19] <ahoneybun> I'm going to get banned from this room and it will be because of Simon
[04:19] <ahoneybun> we told you to stop with that meme
[04:20] <tsimonq2> <__<   >__>
[04:20] <wxl> yeah, i think you might be looking forward to a muting, tsimonq2
[04:20] <wxl> that is seriously the last time
[04:20] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: that changelog is fine
[04:20] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Not the changelog
[04:20] <tsimonq2> Fine fine fine, I'll send it to wxl in private then. :P
[04:20] <ahoneybun> the control is fine as well
[04:20] <tsimonq2> Nope.
[04:20] <tsimonq2> Wrong.
[04:20] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:20] <ahoneybun> looks fine in nano
[04:20] <tsimonq2> O______________________________O eew
[04:21] <tsimonq2> 10:19:16 PM < tsimonq2> ahoneybun: wrap-and-sort dude!
[04:21] <wxl> also i'd consider getting in the habit of an interpreter directive of #!/usr/bin/env bash
[04:21] <ahoneybun> you know what
[04:21] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: You know what? :)
[04:21] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:21] <tsimonq2> mmm
[04:22] <ahoneybun> well then mmmmmmm
[04:22] <DarinMiller> how/when should one wrap and sort?  Is that script I need to download?
[04:22] <wxl> it's in kubuntu autmation
[04:22] <tsimonq2> mmmmmmmmm
[04:22] <tsimonq2> Hah I'm back. :P
[04:22] <wxl> tsimonq2: seriously, that's enough.
[04:23] <ahoneybun> first you knock my "mm" and then my choice in text editors
[04:23] <ahoneybun> I'm sooooo close to being done with you
[04:24] <wxl> admittedly i'd knock your choice in text editors, too, but i think we have a better working relationship, ahoneybun :)
[04:24]  * tsimonq2 goes to the kitchen and looks at the salt shakers
[04:24] <ahoneybun> wxl: agreed :)
[04:25] <wxl> tsimonq2: i am personally giving you the last warning on this.
[04:25] <wxl> DarinMiller: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/check-and-fix/ka-wrap-and-sort
[04:25] <tsimonq2> no no no no no
[04:25] <tsimonq2> Do not use that
[04:25] <tsimonq2> wrap-and-sort is a package in the archive :)
[04:26] <wxl> !info wrap-and-sort
[04:26] <wxl> !info wrap-and-sort zenial
[04:26] <wxl> !info wrap-and-sort zesty
[04:26] <wxl> hah
[04:28] <ahoneybun> the heck
[04:28] <wxl> ?
[04:28] <ahoneybun> wrap-and-sort removed 2 lines
[04:29] <ahoneybun> ohhh
[04:29] <ahoneybun> I see what it did
[04:29] <wxl> what wrap and sort are you using?
[04:29] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: https://git.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/commit/?id=4338addb322cbbe6f2129c69ec1f4dc0ce790505
[04:30] <ahoneybun> wxl: ^
[04:30] <ahoneybun> that confused me at first
[04:34] <wxl> ahoneybun: yes but where did you get the wrap and sort tool from?
[04:35] <ahoneybun> the archive
[04:35] <ahoneybun> it was installed already
[04:35] <wxl> um
[04:35] <wxl> oh hahahahah
[04:35] <ahoneybun> !info wrap-and-sort
[04:35] <ahoneybun> !info wrap-and-sort yakkety
[04:36] <ahoneybun> what?
[04:36] <ahoneybun> I have the package
[04:36] <DarinMiller> !info kubuntu-automation
[04:37] <ahoneybun> wxl: it even has a man page
[04:37] <wxl> i found it
[04:37] <wxl> i'm waiting for dpkg to tell me where it came from
[04:37] <wxl> ah devscripts
[04:37] <wxl> ^^ install that DarinMiller
[04:38] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+merge/311887
[04:38] <DarinMiller> wxl: how did you find that?
[04:39] <wxl> DarinMiller: whereis wrap-and-sort, then feed one of the paths through dpkg -S
[04:39] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Now THERE you go. :)
[04:39] <ahoneybun> you know you could have been more helpful with what that command did
[04:40] <wxl> ahoneybun: i suspect he was taking a hands-off approach so you could discover on your own. it's a reasonable method of teaching, though it might not work for you. just ask next time :)
[04:41] <ahoneybun> wxl: it does not work for me at all
[04:42] <wxl> ahoneybun: so just ask :)
[04:42] <ahoneybun> I really hate that
[04:42] <wxl> i would have told you but i assumed you knew
[04:42] <DarinMiller> cool, dpkg -S is quite handy (devscripts were already installed btw)
[04:44] <DarinMiller> I missed something, ahoneybun what lession did you learn the hard way?
[04:44] <ahoneybun> what?
[04:45] <DarinMiller> I was under the impression wrap n sort did not do what you expected.  You said it removed 2 lines but then you seemed ok with the outcome.
[04:45] <ahoneybun> DarinMiller: oh right
[04:46] <ahoneybun> it removed 2 lines but moved them back in different places
[04:46] <wxl> also known as sort XD
[04:46] <ahoneybun> DarinMiller: remember how acheronuk said about the .install files for thing to be in abc order
[04:46] <ahoneybun> well in a diff it looks different
[04:46] <DarinMiller> yes.
[04:46] <wxl> yeah diffs are confusing
[04:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #114: STILL FAILING in 3 min 58 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/114/
[04:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #27: STILL FAILING in 5 min 3 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/27/
[04:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #57: STILL FAILING in 5 min 34 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/57/
[04:49] <ahoneybun> wxl: what is this?
[04:49] <ahoneybun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/libavogadro-dev
[04:50] <wxl> ahoneybun: probably a chemistry tool
[04:50] <ahoneybun> it is the same name
[04:50] <ahoneybun>  though
[04:50] <ahoneybun>  Avogadro
[04:50] <ahoneybun> so but that cmake file is missing in that package
[04:51] <wxl> as in avogadro's number
[04:51] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:51] <wxl> like what a mole is based on
[04:52] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: can I edit the changelog of kalzium so all those packages that I added are on one line?
[04:52] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: If you want
[04:52] <wxl> is that correct?
[04:52] <ahoneybun> well it would make it easier to read
[04:53] <wxl> i tried to merge two of santa's entries toegether and clivejo warned me against it
[04:53] <wxl> saying that everything should be in chronological order
[04:54] <tsimonq2> Well I take that back
[04:54] <tsimonq2> wxl is right
[04:55] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+merge/311888
[04:55] <ahoneybun> I did not do it
[04:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #115: STILL FAILING in 3 min 52 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/115/
[04:56] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Merged
[04:56] <ahoneybun> cool
[04:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #28: STILL FAILING in 4 min 37 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/28/
[04:57] <wxl> tsimonq2: why do you re-add kci every time with your script?
[04:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: Because it's a new ephemeral container every time
[04:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #58: STILL FAILING in 4 min 56 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/58/
[04:58] <wxl> oic
[04:59] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: it has 2 builds going at the same time
[04:59] <ahoneybun> any reason?
[04:59] <ahoneybun> nvm
[04:59] <ahoneybun> it stoped
[04:59] <ahoneybun> *Stopped
[05:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #116: STILL FAILING in 3 min 55 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/116/
[05:01] <wxl> tsimonq2: why isn't this in kubuntu-automation
[05:01] <wxl> ?
[05:02] <tsimonq2> wxl: Because it's hacky af
[05:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #29: STILL FAILING in 5 min 34 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/29/
[05:04] <ahoneybun> wow
[05:04] <ahoneybun> that thing needs a LOT more deps
[05:04] <ahoneybun> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/295105793/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.kalzium_4%3A16.04.3+p17.04+git20161127.0458-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[05:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #59: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/59/
[05:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #117: STILL FAILING in 5 min 28 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/117/
[05:12] <wxl> ahoneybun: XD
[05:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #30: STILL FAILING in 4 min 3 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/30/
[05:12] <wxl> tsimonq2: what was the thing for getting the tarball?
[05:12] <ahoneybun> wxl: did you see that?
[05:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: get-kci-tarball
[05:12] <tsimonq2> in ka
[05:13] <ahoneybun> wow 12am
[05:15] <ahoneybun> mm 2 factor on my gmail was a good idea and bad
[05:15] <ahoneybun> can't use any other email client now
[05:15] <wxl> sure you just need to make an app password
[05:15] <ahoneybun> well if the client does not support it
[05:16] <wxl> it doesn't support a password?
[05:17] <ahoneybun> nope
[05:17] <ahoneybun> well the default one but then I need a 6 digit code too
[05:17] <wxl> weeeeeeeird
[05:17] <ahoneybun> but the client does not know how to handle that
[05:17] <wxl> go into google and you can make an app passsword
[05:17] <ahoneybun> https://www.google.com/landing/2step/
[05:17] <wxl> it's a password that's doesn't need 2fa
[05:18] <ahoneybun> well that destroys the reason for 2fa
[05:18] <wxl> yeah it's a limited kind of thing only for clients that you really want to use that doesn't support 2fa
[05:19] <ahoneybun> wxl: I wonder if I should go though with kalzium and that dep nightmare
[05:19] <wxl> ahoneybun: it'll keep you busy :)
[05:20] <ahoneybun> 13 different ones
[05:20] <ahoneybun> well tsimonq2 as well
[05:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #60: STILL FAILING in 5 min 2 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/60/
[05:25] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: ping
[05:25] <tsimonq2> yesssss
[05:25] <ahoneybun> there are 13 new deps for kalzium
[05:26] <ahoneybun> I've added 4 in one commit
[05:26] <ahoneybun> I was going to do 3 commits
[05:26] <ahoneybun> 4, 4, 5
[05:26] <ahoneybun> cool?
[05:26] <tsimonq2> Or all in one if you want. :)
[05:26] <ahoneybun> then I'll send one merge
[05:27] <tsimonq2> Yup. :)
[05:27] <ahoneybun> k
[05:27]  * ahoneybun sets 'was' for 'wrap-and-sort'
[05:34] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalzium/+merge/311889
[05:35] <ahoneybun> opps
[05:35] <ahoneybun> there
[05:38] <ahoneybun> wxl: I'm wondering if debian changed the lib names
[05:38] <ahoneybun> AvogadroLibsConfig.cmake = AvogadroConfig.cmake
[05:39] <wxl> ahoneybun: it's possible. you can try searching upstream. also might be interesting to see what neon does
[05:39] <ahoneybun> though gentoo and the github page have that cmake file
[05:41] <ahoneybun> though neon control file does not have most of the stuff we need from it
[05:41] <ahoneybun> https://packaging.neon.kde.org/applications/kalzium.git/tree/debian/control
[05:44] <ahoneybun> wxl: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/libavogadro-dev/filelist
[05:44] <ahoneybun> debian does not have file
[05:47] <ahoneybun> debian does have kde-runtime as a dep though
[05:50] <ahoneybun> though debian build 16.08 with older packages/...
[05:50] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: See my response to your MP.
[05:51] <ahoneybun> I di
[05:51] <ahoneybun> *did
[05:51] <ahoneybun> not sure why it needs them now
[05:52] <ahoneybun> pushed a new commit tsimonq2
[05:52] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/kalzium
[05:52] <ahoneybun> not sure how they are using older packages though
[05:52] <ahoneybun> looks like kde4 stuff
[05:54] <ahoneybun> 16.08 vs 16.04
[05:54] <ahoneybun> anyway going to sleep in a few
[05:54] <ahoneybun> once that new build is done
[05:56] <tsimonq2> I think I'll head off now.
[05:56] <tsimonq2> o/
[05:56] <ahoneybun> night
[05:58] <DarinMiller> nite all
[05:59] <ahoneybun> o/
[06:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #31: STILL FAILING in 6 min 1 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/31/
[06:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #118: STILL FAILING in 6 min 55 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/118/
[06:02] <ahoneybun> funny since AvogadroLibs is optional
[06:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #61: STILL FAILING in 7 min 36 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/61/
[06:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #32: STILL FAILING in 5 min 58 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/32/
[06:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #119: STILL FAILING in 6 min 29 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/119/
[06:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #62: STILL FAILING in 5 min 57 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/62/
[12:10] <acheronuk> afternoon :)
[12:11] <acheronuk> kalzium
[12:11] <acheronuk> -- Installing: /<<BUILDDIR>>/kalzium-16.04.3+p17.04+git20161127.0606/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libscience.so.SOVERSION
[12:11] <acheronuk> -- Installing: /<<BUILDDIR>>/kalzium-16.04.3+p17.04+git20161127.0606/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libscience.so
[12:11] <acheronuk> that's ugly ^^^
[12:16] <acheronuk> upstream cmake problem setting the right version I guess
[12:52] <blaze> it's time to look at 16.12 apps packaging
[14:06] <ahoneybun> yea acheronuk
 Hai
 blaze: Not yet.
[16:34] <santa_> good afternoon
[16:41] <DarinMiller> good morning/afternoon
[16:57] <wxl> DarinMiller: need an aplanation of single binary?
[16:58] <wxl> do you need to generate a new key everytime you make a new schroot?
[17:01] <wxl> weird guess so
[17:01] <wxl> or not argh
[17:06] <DarinMiller> wxl: as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild, looks like chroots can be pre-populated (Pre-populated chroots near the bottom)
[17:06] <DarinMiller> But I still do not know how to use those dang things.
[17:06] <wxl> this is what i'm getting hung up on http://pastebin.com/g89DMDJ4
[17:10] <DarinMiller> So packages have to be downloaded within the chroot enviro?  Is there a way to download and pass the download pack to the chroot enviro?
[17:11] <wxl> probably but that's annoying
[17:14] <DarinMiller> wxl: I don't understand your question: [09:57] <wxl> DarinMiller:  need an aplanation of single binary?
[17:14] <santa_> if you want to speed up the downloading and installing of build dependencies you can use apt-cacher-ng (to speed up downloading) and eatmydata (to speed up installing)
[17:14] <wxl> DarinMiller: i saw you said something in your merge request like "single binary?" which suggested you might want an explanation
[17:15] <wxl> yeah wish i could get that far santa :)
[17:19] <santa_> well, I started with pbuilder, then switched to sbuild, then started to improve my stuff on top of that
[17:19] <santa_> I mean, there was a long road to get there
[17:19] <wxl> heh
[17:19] <wxl> well i'm going to start from scratch again
[17:20] <santa_> I didn't start to do everything in "pro mode"
[17:20] <wxl> this issue with keys is honestly a little baffling
[17:29] <wxl> what's super weird is that it clearly sees the Sbuild Signer key
[17:29] <wxl> but not the secret key
[17:30] <wxl> they're both in freaking /var/lib/sbuild/apt-keys/
[17:30] <wxl> ugh
[17:33] <DarinMiller> I only have 2 files in /var/lib/sbuild/apt-keys/ (sbuild-key.pub and sbuild-key.sec).
[17:33] <wxl> right same here
[17:35] <DarinMiller> so what were you running to generate these errors http://pastebin.com/g89DMDJ4   (I have only logged in an out of my sbuild session.)
[17:36] <wxl> so i'm trying to build plasma-sdk
[17:36] <wxl> that's my pwd
[17:36] <wxl> the tarball is in ../
[17:36] <wxl> from there i'm trying to use simon's build-kci command
[17:36] <wxl> but ignoring that and doing a standard sbuild fails tooo
[17:36] <wxl> i.e.
[17:37] <wxl> sbuild -d zesty-amd64-shm ../plasma-sdk*.dsc
[17:40] <DarinMiller> did the dsc file come from a git download, tar package or ?????  I don't see a dsc for the audiocd-kio package (neither in the tar nor git link).
[17:40] <wxl> yeah sorry that's confusing
[17:40] <wxl> the dsc came out of the tarball the first time i tried to run sbuild
[17:40] <DarinMiller> Am I supposed to generate the dsc file myself?
[17:41] <wxl> if you're doing it for the first time, just have the tarball in the right format in ../ and run sbuild while in the main directory
[17:41] <wxl> the first time it runs and sees the source, it generates the dsc
[17:46] <wxl> i find it odd that get-kci-tarball stores the tarball in ../build-area/. is there a way to specify this directory to sbuild? cuz that would sure clean up my repo directory
[17:46] <wxl> santa ^^
[17:47] <DarinMiller> So I don't need the git library files, just the uncompressed (.xz) tar package?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/wverEkay/file_1243.jpg Too tired to package
[17:49] <wxl> so it's like this
[17:49] <wxl> let's say you're going to do everything out of ~
[17:49] <wxl> so:
[17:49] <wxl> cd
[17:49] <wxl> git clone package
[17:50] <wxl> cd package
[17:50] <wxl> get-kci-tarball
[17:50] <wxl> mv ../build-area/package*xz ../
[17:50] <wxl> sbuild -d zesty-amd64-shm
[17:50] <wxl> make sense now?
[17:52] <DarinMiller> oh, that helps immensely!
[17:52] <wxl> yeah in general, you assume with packages, you're always going to be in the folder containing the debian folder
[17:53] <wxl> and packaging is essentially a process of taking upstream (kde in our case) code and applying the debian packaging to it
[17:54] <wxl> that packaging basically doing the job of specifying compilation options
[17:54] <wxl> such as applying patches
[17:54] <wxl> and then running it through some checking (like lintian)
[17:54] <wxl> and then creating a deb file that works correctly
[17:56] <wxl> i wonder if my chroot has a newer gnupg version
[17:56] <wxl> AH HA
[17:56] <wxl> well that's cool
[17:56] <wxl> at least i can start using some people's keys :)
[17:57] <wxl> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827315
[17:57] <wxl> !info sbuild xenial-updates
[17:58] <wxl> !info sbuild xenial
[17:58] <wxl> !info sbuild xenial-proposed
[17:58] <wxl> gar
[17:58] <wxl> !info sbuild xenial-backports
[17:58] <wxl> yarg
[17:58] <wxl> this is what i get for running LTS
[18:00] <wxl> and now i have some other problem argh
[18:00] <wxl> giong to do the dishes
[18:01] <DarinMiller> yes, I will need patching training assuming I can ever progress beyond my "packaging strider" cycle.
[18:02]  * DarinMiller 's analagoy of his packaging abilities as related to cycling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6zG9EYOKI)
[18:15] <DarinMiller> so the directory for my sbuild looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23544521
[18:15] <DarinMiller> I am by the statement:  mv ../build-area/package*xz ../
[18:16] <DarinMiller> I am confused^
[19:38] <wxl> ↵
[19:39] <wxl> aw darin left
[19:39] <wxl> gotta teach that boy how to idle
[19:47] <wxl> !info libkf5kio-dev
[19:47] <wxl> argh
[19:47] <wxl> !info libkf5kio-dev zesty
[19:47] <wxl> ugh
[19:48] <wxl> !info libkf5plasma-dev zesty
[19:48] <wxl> why the heck is kci not complaining about the fact that plasma-sdk can't even get the right packages? argh
[19:56] <acheronuk> libkf5kio-dev & libkf5plasma-dev are renames of sub-dev packages. there should be transitional  packages in KCI, but you won't find the new names in the ubuntu archive yet
[19:57] <wxl> ohhh
[19:57] <wxl> so is there any easy way for me to run an sbuild?
[19:58] <wxl> think i may have answered my own question
[19:58] <wxl> yep
[20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop build #41: FAILURE in 3 hr 27 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop/41/
[20:06] <wxl> well i added the kci ppa and updated in --chroot-setup-command and yet i have all sorts of dependency issues http://pastebin.com/pwN7Bbx8
[20:16] <acheronuk> I use pbuilder not sbuild
[20:17] <acheronuk> https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[20:18] <wxl> this is kde identity/phabricator?
[20:19] <wxl> yes, wxl, it is :)
[20:23] <wxl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53014/why-use-sbuild-over-pbuilder
[20:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[20:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop build #42: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop/42/
[20:31] <blaze> I don't even use pbuider but have it installed
[20:41] <wxl> yeah i think it's a thing you do when you go through the packaging guide on ubuntu
[21:24] <blaze> I don't need a packaging guide :)
 Bah acheronuk
 sbuild ftw
 (Voice, 1s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/8SNBZFvP/file_1248.oga
 Oops
 Fix my sbuild Simon
[21:57] <wxl> tsimonq2: fix it
 Hello from Spain ;)
 Zomg
[22:57] <wxl> fix it
 What
[22:57] <wxl> my sbuild http://pastebin.com/pwN7Bbx8
 Your sbuild isn't broken
 Push it to your repo and I'll push it to KCI, you'll see
 It's a dep problem
[22:59] <wxl> then why is it not breaking like that on kci?
[22:59] <wxl> oh
[22:59] <wxl> wait maybe you're right hold on
[23:05] <wxl> nope same problem tsimonq2
 What did you do?
[23:06] <wxl> i'm going to try this all over again
[23:06] <wxl> sigh
[23:10] <valorie> hello @marcinsagol!
[23:10] <valorie> whatcha doing in Spain?
[23:10] <valorie> and where are you
[23:15] <wxl> tsimonq2: happens even with a fresh repo, fresh schroot, frresh tarball
[23:15] <wxl> tsimonq2: in other words, this should also happen on KCI
[23:16] <wxl> tsimonq2: or something about my set up is messsed up
 Alright
 Next step
 LXC container. Add the PPA. Install the packages it says it can't install and diagnose it.
 wxl: Got it? :)
[23:18] <wxl> i'll give it a go
 Good. :P
 wxl: Any luck?
[23:25] <wxl> tsimonq2: trying something else first
[23:38] <wxl> tsimonq2: i assume you need to use a privledged container?
 Nope


[05:02] <rick_h_> howdy back and all that jazz
[05:02] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :/ oh well
[05:02] <rick_h_> cmaloney: as to the peets closing
[05:03] <rick_h_> their stupid 8pm close made no sense
[17:32] <cmaloney> yeah, I think that was a contributing factor
[17:32] <cmaloney> But ah well
[17:33] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, time moves on
[17:34] <cmaloney> Speaking of time moving on, you back in MI-land yet?
[17:38] <rick_h_> yea, got in around midnight just in time for that lovely storm to blow through
[17:38] <cmaloney> We didn't get anything down here AFAICT.
[17:38] <cmaloney> Just a lot of wind
[17:38] <rick_h_> oh, got rained on hard, road turned into a river for a bit
[17:38] <rick_h_> of course that bit was as we pulled in and tried to get a tired cranky boy into the house with all of our luggage :)
[17:38] <rick_h_> cmaloney: oh hey, what time is next weekend? Did we stick with 3pm? Or did we go back to 11?
[17:38] <cmaloney> welcome back
[17:39] <rick_h_> ty much
[17:39] <rick_h_> glad to be home
[17:39] <rick_h_> had fun, but want to settle down for a bit now
[17:39] <cmaloney> I've got 3-6pm
[17:39] <rick_h_> london, germnay, and CA all with one week in between and now I'm spent
[17:39] <rick_h_> cmaloney: ok, and that's sunday right?
[17:39] <rick_h_> or did we stick with sat?
[17:39] <cmaloney> Sat.
[17:40] <rick_h_> ok
[17:40] <cmaloney> LMK if that needs changing
[17:40] <rick_h_> no, all good. Just trying to remember
[17:40] <cmaloney> Should be on your calendar. :)
[17:40] <cmaloney> I invited you. :)
[17:40] <rick_h_> yea, but I've got two of them there. The one from you is still sat at 11am
[17:40] <cmaloney> orly?
[17:41] <cmaloney> hm, disregard the 11am one.
[17:41] <rick_h_> or maybe that's my old one
[17:41] <cmaloney> I think that's your oold one.
[17:41] <rick_h_> ok, updated
[18:11] <derekv> if i divorced freeNas what should I try instead?
[18:36] <rick_h_> derekv: a synology NAS
[18:37] <rick_h_> derekv: there was someone in #bookie asking about building and working on the android app if you get time to catch him/her
[18:38] <rick_h_> derekv: that'd be awesome, he was trying to load it into android studio. I thought waf got it working with mrgoodcat at CHC and upated the docs but guess it wasn't working
[18:39] <derekv> yea if they can come to CHC or I can schedule a time to meet them if they are in the area
[18:39] <derekv> otherwise i'd totally schedule some time some afternoon/weekend
[18:39] <derekv> not this weekend…
[18:39] <rick_h_> derekv: I think he was very international, though maybe I should ask you to walk me through it and bootstrap me on it
[18:40] <derekv> everyone seems to have trouble, I should update the docs
[18:40] <rick_h_> derekv: all good, just happened to see the conversation with brousch and him (Vandan) when I got into irc
[18:41] <rick_h_> updating to 1TB dropbox, yay
[19:14] <derekv> WTB: good UPS
[20:03] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[20:33] <derekv> next kinesis advantage will replace the rubber function keys (confirmed) and have layershift (confirmed), everthing else is still hush
[20:33] <derekv> for me, if its true split they can name their price
[20:33] <derekv> i'll send them a blank check
[20:51] <rick_h_> derekv: cool, love mine
[20:51] <rick_h_> don't use the function keys much, just f3 for find-next
[20:54] <derekv> i always wear out the ESC key
[20:54] <rick_h_> ah, I map jj to esc for vim/zsh and so don't use it much
[20:54] <rick_h_> it's too far away to use regularly imo
[20:59] <brousch> derekv: I failed to get bookie Android running under Android Studio
[20:59] <brousch> compiled
[20:59] <brousch> I think the final problem I had was with bookie parsr client
[21:06] <derekv> ok
[23:53] <rick_h_> bwuhahaha https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/a4rLb1NFbHn
[23:54] <gamerchick02> dude. i love those!!