[15:53] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block by block image, you can't change
[15:54] <cfhowlett> kvj, if so then you installed it wrong.  #vbox for support
[15:54] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block level copy of a device,
[15:54] <robotdevil1> ikonia: what if I dedicate an entire drive
[15:54] <ikonia> what does the size of the drive have to do with anything ?
[15:54] <kvj> Kvj i installed  it from software center
[15:54] <EriC^^> bouffant2: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <JCT500THz> How do I clear sessions from the terminal?
[15:54] <robotdevil1> ikonia: it wouldnt be a .iso
[15:54] <ikonia> no
[15:55] <robotdevil1> ikonia: it would be a clone no?
[15:55] <kvj> cfhowlett: i installed it from software center
[15:55] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it is a block level copy of a device
[15:55] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so why wouldnt i be able to scan it?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> kvj, ?  did not ask but OK.  still, virtualbox is in #vbox
[15:55] <ikonia> robotdevil1: because it's a block level copy of a device
[15:56] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so im sol?
[15:56] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what is the actual problem you are trying to solve
[15:56] <kvj>  Thanks cfhowlett
[15:56] <cfhowlett> happ2help! kvj
[15:56] <robotdevil1> I do not want to stay in windows OS while runnning scans on a slow drive
[15:56] <robotdevil1> ikonia:
[15:56] <kvj>  :)
[15:57] <ikonia> robotdevil1: so move the windows install to a faster disk
[15:57] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok I did that http://paste.ubuntu.com/14447749/
[15:57] <ikonia> robotdevil1: or scan the windows disk from your ubuntu machine
[15:57] <Linuxn00b> ikonia are you familiar with pppd
[15:57] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: yes, why
[15:57] <EriC^^> bouffant2: looks good
[15:57] <Linuxn00b> I have it configured on my server it works when I manually call - but only with root priviledges
[15:58] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Thanks for your help, is there anything else I should try before restarting?
[15:58] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so there is no way to manipulate backups or images?
[15:58] <Linuxn00b> I'd like to start on boot - can you point me in the right direction to troubleshoot these?
[15:58] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: because it's initiating a connection using a physuical device
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: not dd copies
[15:58] <EriC^^> bouffant2: you could install the headers package, they're useful sometimes
[15:58] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - so that is intended?
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what you are suggesting makes no sense
[15:58] <robotdevil1> ikonia: but to copy them to another drive
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it makes no sense what you are trying to do
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: just scan the windows disk from your ubuntu install, you don't need to image/back it up
[15:59] <bouffant2> EriC^^: What is the headers package?
[15:59] <EriC^^> bouffant2: you mean what it does or the name of it?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> bouffant, I run this regularly.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14447770/
[15:59] <bouffant2> EriC^^: both :)
[16:00] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - any suggestions on having pppd call my vpn connection on boot AND maintain it?
[16:00] <bouffant2> thanks cfhowlett
[16:00] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: use network manager and set it as auto start
[16:01] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - does that work from the CLI on ubuntu server?
[16:01] <ikonia> you can use network manager from the command line
[16:01] <EriC^^> bouffant2: it has headers for the kernel that are needed sometimes to compile stuff manually, if you download a source package, or the nvidia packages use it too, linux-headers-generic
[16:02] <robotdevil1> ikonia: i thnk you might be wrong. cant you use dd to make an image then use testdisk against it?
[16:02] <robotdevil1> that would be similar no?
[16:03] <ikonia> robotdevil1: testdisk is a partition tool - and as it's a block by block copy of a device it will have a partition table
[16:03] <ikonia> robotdevil1: if you think I'm wrong - why are you not doing this instead of asking
[16:03] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok I'll google the install for that later. Am I safe to restart do you think?
[16:03] <EriC^^> bouffant2: yeah, should be good
[16:03] <EriC^^> :)
[16:03] <ikonia> robotdevil1: and again why do you not just scan your windows file system from the ubuntu install, why are you so specific that you want to scan a backup
[16:03] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: what do you mean by scan?
[16:03] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Thank you so much for your help. Bye.
[16:03] <EriC^^> bouffant2: no problem
[16:04] <EriC^^> bye
[16:04] <robotdevil1> ikonia: because I cant remember the caveets of using dd for sure
[16:04] <ikonia> robotdevil1: so I'm telling you - and you're arguing
[16:04] <ikonia> robotdevil1: why do you not just scan the windows file system from your ubuntu install
[16:05] <robotdevil1> because its a 5200 rpm 2.5 hard disk that is slow as frick
[16:05] <ikonia> so ?
[16:05] <ikonia> copying a dd image scanning it and deleting it will be slower than just scanning the disk
[16:06] <robotdevil1> and I dont want to use all my I/O for 15 hrs
[16:06] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you can limit the I/O
[16:06] <ikonia> so it scans in the background
[16:06] <ikonia> robotdevil1: how big is the disk
[16:06] <robotdevil1> 320 gig
[16:06] <ikonia> that is not going to take 15 hours
[16:07] <robotdevil1> windows there was 990000 files and it took 7 mins to do 10000
[16:08] <ikonia> not sure what your point is
[16:08] <robotdevil1> im tired but I came up with approx 10 + hours
[16:08] <ikonia> it sounds like your making a problem whre one doens't exist
[16:09] <lechien> ^ what millions of men have said to their wives.
[16:09] <EriC^^> i still don't know what you scanning files means?
[16:09] <robotdevil1> wasnt aware trial and error and learing was a problem
[16:09] <robotdevil1> lechien: lmfao
[16:09] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you don't need trial and error
[16:09] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you have a windows and an ubuntu dual boot, correct ?
[16:10] <robotdevil1> yes
[16:10] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu, scan your windows file systme in the background
[16:10] <ikonia> problem solved
[16:10] <EriC^^> what's scan mean?
[16:10] <ikonia> virus
[16:11] <EriC^^> oh
[16:11] <robotdevil1> grayware yes
[16:11] <ikonia> grayware ?
[16:11] <IceNine> hey all, long time lurker of ubuntu and recent (less than 24 hours) of running as primary
[16:11] <lechien> Ware that does stuff that's ethically questionable.
[16:11] <robotdevil1> im gonna smash my keyboard soon. why does it seem like im speaking in tounges
[16:12] <ikonia> robotdevil1: because you are
[16:12] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you're trying to virus scan your windows partition yes/no ?
[16:12] <robotdevil1> yes
[16:12] <yeats> IceNine: welcome! do you have an issue?
[16:12] <lechien> I see his problem, he's running Windows. Format partition, 3 pass DOD wipe.
[16:12] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu run antivirus against windows file system, job done
[16:12] <ikonia> lechien: he's dual booting
[16:13] <IceNine> thanks yeats, not an issue per se, more of a question - is it possible to have one application use a different output/input than the rest of the system?
[16:13] <IceNine> audio output/input i should clarify
[16:14] <IceNine> in windows, there is a default communication device and a "default"  device
[16:14] <robotdevil1> ikonia: my thing is the say I dont put a GUI .img on the image, wont the image just be recognized as a normal drive?
[16:14] <IceNine> so for instance, skype can use my webcam mic and monitor speakers, whereas everything else goes through my headphones
[16:14] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what image ?
[16:14] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu, scan windows file system, you do'nt need an image
[16:14] <lechien> You can virus scan your windows partition from your ubuntu partition assuming your windows partition is not encrypted.
[16:15] <robotdevil1> can I do that to an image ? of any sort?
[16:15] <robotdevil1> appease me here
[16:15] <lechien> If the malicious program is lurking in an encrypted home folder you're SOL.
[16:15] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you don't need an image
[16:15] <ikonia> robotdevil1: stop worrying about image
[16:15] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu, scan windows file system
[16:16] <robotdevil1> ikonia: quit forcing your idea on me!!
[16:16] <robotdevil1> Im not deaf
[16:16] <ikonia> robotdevil1: then do it
[16:16] <lechien> If I'm not mistaken most newer versions of Windows automatically set up home folder encryption, no?
[16:16] <robotdevil1> I may have to do this a few more times \
[16:16] <ikonia> nope
[16:16] <ikonia> you don't have to do anything
[16:17] <ikonia> boot ubuntu, scan windows file system, job done, simple and easy
[16:17] <robotdevil1> so me imaging to a faster disk is gonna teach me something and make it go faster
[16:17] <ikonia> no it's not
[16:17] <EriC^^> lechien: nah, i dont think so
[16:17] <robotdevil1> during the scan that is
[16:17] <ikonia> as you still have to read the whole slow disk and block copy the whole disk, inlcuding unused space
[16:18] <ikonia> it will not go faster,
[16:18] <ikonia> it just makes a complex and pointless attempt at a solution
[16:18] <robotdevil1> ok it will teach how to be slow
[16:18] <MACscr> is it possible to configure xrandr at all through ssh?
[16:18] <ikonia> where as if you boot ubuntu and scan the windows OS it will be safe and clean
[16:18] <ikonia> and easy
[16:18] <n0p3reXx> lechien: Erm...really?! :\
[16:18] <bogdan> Hi
[16:19] <lechien> I want to say it does.
[16:19] <bogdan> how to add my program to oficial repositories?
[16:19]  * robotdevil1 throws coffee cup at wall
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  you can't
[16:19] <ikonia> bogdan: I'd suggest starting off as MOTU
[16:19] <ikonia> !motu | bogdan
[16:19] <nick73> !ciao
[16:19] <bogdan> Hm... OKAY thanks
[16:20] <nick73> !lista
[16:20] <robotdevil1> ok I have a new question
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  publish your program somewhere one the net, as a ppa or a .deb or so, then hope someone picks it up and likes it
[16:20] <bogdan> I upload it on sourceforge
[16:20] <bogdan> with sources in git
[16:21] <robotdevil1> may I use dd to make an image to a  partition ?
[16:21] <bogdan> robot, yes
[16:21] <ikonia> robotdevil1: yes, if the sizes match
[16:21] <nick73> yes
[16:21] <free29> alguna con ropita para charlar en skype???
[16:21] <nick73> nick73
[16:21] <bogdan> dd if=/dev/devtobackup of=/dev/devtowrite
[16:21] <ikonia> or you can put it to an image file on a partition file system
[16:21] <nick73> !lista
[16:21] <ikonia> bogdan: no, do not do that
[16:21] <robotdevil1> ikonia: oh that a thing? what do you mean by sizes?
[16:22] <n0p3reXx> bogdan: use ddrescue.
[16:22] <bogdan> By this method i write ubuntu ISO on usb :D
[16:22] <ikonia> robotdevil1: if you backup say a 320GB device and try to restore it to say a 500GB partition device, it will cause problems as the sizes don't matter
[16:22] <ikonia> bogdan: that is totally different
[16:22] <n0p3reXx> and be careful which partition goes in if= and of=
[16:22] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: you mean to write one partition to an image file, then copy it to another partition on another disk?
[16:22] <bogdan> okay
[16:22] <ikonia> robotdevil1: of the obvious, if you try to write to a device that is smaller than the image
[16:22] <EriC^^> cause that's what they thought you meant
[16:23] <ikonia> robotdevil1: there are tools such as clonezilla that can do resizes
[16:23] <robotdevil1> ikonia: wouldnt it just fill the entire partition?
[16:23] <ikonia> robotdevil1: no
[16:23] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block level copy
[16:23] <ikonia> hence why it has to match up
[16:23] <robotdevil1> ikonia: hmmm
[16:24] <robotdevil1> ikonia:  but this is different is you use an iso?
[16:24] <bogdan> hm
[16:24] <robotdevil1> ikonia: to image from i mean'
[16:24] <ikonia> robotdevil1: no, the ubuntu iso is different because it's not a block level copy, it's a squashed file system
[16:24] <bogdan> i install gcc 2.95 from old archives but it not compile linux kernel 0.11
[16:24] <bogdan> cpp0 not found
[16:25] <bogdan> I can't build older GCC-errors
[16:25] <ikonia> bogdan: what version of ubuntu are you using
[16:25] <bogdan> 15.10 x32
[16:25] <ikonia> bogdan: so don't install things from non-15.10 repos
[16:25] <bogdan> lubuntu 15.10 x32
[16:25] <bogdan> i install from 2.02 repo
[16:25] <ikonia> 2.02 ?
[16:25] <ikonia> there is no ubuntu 2.02
[16:25] <bogdan> gcc 2.95 is very old(2000 year)
[16:26] <bogdan> sorry
[16:26] <bogdan> ubuntu 2.x
[16:26] <ikonia> there is no ubuntu 2
[16:26] <robotdevil1> so how do I use dd to make a backup of anything then>
[16:26] <robotdevil1> ?
[16:26] <ikonia> robotdevil1: why do you want to use dd to make a backup
[16:26] <ikonia> again what's the goal ?
[16:26] <robotdevil1> well I was going to use it to backup my ubuntu install too
[16:27] <ikonia> so back it up to a different disk and you can use it to restore
[16:27] <bogdan> Strange . What I then downloaded? It was precisely from the archives of ubuntu before 2005
[16:28] <ikonia> bogdan: what are you talking about
[16:28] <robotdevil1> ikonia: im not sure what is different in the senarios
[16:28] <bogdan> gcc 2.95
[16:28] <ikonia> robotdevil1: in what senarios ?
[16:28] <ikonia> bogdan: where did you get it from exactly
[16:28] <robotdevil1> the two ive illustrated
[16:28] <robotdevil1> pretend the scan doesnt exist
[16:28] <ikonia> robotdevil1: making a block level copy of a windows image nad trying to virus scan it as a file system = totally different than making a block level copy of a disk to use as a restore point
[16:29] <bogdan> ubuntu archives
[16:29] <ikonia> bogdan: what archive, give me the exact URL please
[16:30] <lechien> ikonia what version of windows?
[16:30] <ikonia> lechien:  ?
[16:30] <lechien> ikonia Are you trying to image your windows partition to another disk?
[16:30] <ikonia> lechien: I'm not doing anything
[16:31] <bogdan> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-2.95/
[16:31] <lechien> ikonia Who's trying to get help here?
[16:31] <EriC^^> nobody really
[16:31] <EriC^^> maybe bogdan
[16:31] <lechien> Oh.
[16:31] <ikonia> bogdan: that is not meant for 15.x releases
[16:32] <lechien> Well, I looked up windows encryption and at windows 7 the EFS was implemented.
[16:32] <ikonia> lechien: it's available if you want to use it, the guys in ##windows will explain the defaults/options
[16:32] <bogdan> It works
[16:32] <bogdan> but
[16:32] <ikonia> but nothing
[16:32] <bogdan> not compiles other programs(for example hello world)
[16:33] <ikonia> bogdan: then it doens't work
[16:33] <bogdan> may be binutils
[16:33] <ikonia> bogdan: and it's not supported for you to mix repos like that
[16:33] <lechien> Oh I see.
[16:34] <bogdan> thanks
[16:34] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so i cannot make an image of any install onto a new partition or drive and mount it under ubuntu and treat it as a filesytem?
[16:34] <bogdan> i need to compile linux 0.11 kernel.Any ways?
[16:35] <ikonia> bogdan: no
[16:35] <bogdan> okay
[16:35] <bogdan> thanks
[16:35] <nick73> !ciao
[16:35] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block level image, there are options for it, but not to do what you want, as it will always be slower than just scanning the windows file system
[16:35] <nick73> !lista
[16:35] <yeats> !it | nick73
[16:35] <lechien> You'll have to mount the image to see its contents.
[16:35] <nick73> !lista
[16:36] <bogdan> !ru
[16:36] <nick73> ciao
[16:36] <jnix> !choctaw
[16:36] <bogdan> !ciao
[16:36] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so can you answer one more thing for me?
[16:36] <jnix> i am offended there isn't a choctaw language ubuntu channel
[16:36] <nick73> !lista
[16:36] <jnix> (jk)
[16:36] <bogdan> Lol ;)
[16:37] <jnix> if there had been a choctaw language ubuntu channel i'd be picking my jaw off the ground
[16:37] <lechien> I'm surprised there's not a choctaw flavor of ubnutnu.
[16:38] <bogdan> how to compile ubuntu on arm(not ubuntu touch)
[16:38] <ikonia> there is already an arm release
[16:38] <ikonia> !arm | bogdan
[16:38] <bogdan> On raspberry?
[16:38] <ikonia> !pi | bogdan
[16:39] <ikonia> bogdan: you need a pi2
[16:39] <bogdan> A or B?
[16:39] <ikonia> bogdan: pi2
[16:40] <bogdan> I want to buy PI.Or PI2.I don't like pidora and this is not a decent word
[16:40] <bogdan> In Russian language
[16:40] <bogdan> I want ubuntu
[16:40] <ikonia> !ru | bogdan
[16:41] <ilyass> ciao
[16:42] <zamba> what is considered the "best" webmail these days?
[16:42] <zamba> squirrelmail, roundcube or horde?
[16:42] <ikonia> it just personal opinion
[16:42] <zamba> ikonia: thus the quotation marks
[16:42] <bogdan> gmail :D
[16:42] <zamba> bogdan: hehe
[16:43] <ikonia> thus try them and see what YOU like
[16:43] <ikonia> there are 10+ popular web mail products
[16:43] <bogdan> mail.yandex.ru,gmail,yahoo mail... own domain with round cube
[16:44] <n0p3reXx> zamba: I would prefer hushmail, opmbx, tutanota.
[16:44] <bogdan> Chromium not save cookies
[16:44] <bogdan> It normal?
[16:44] <Netwolf> the new gmail inbox.gmail.com is pretty awesome
[16:45] <Netwolf> buuut, if you need to see mail headers (u will have to use the old version)
[16:45] <n0p3reXx> bogdan, Cookies help track your activity on the netz, your better of disabled.
[16:45] <bogdan> I not disabled cookies
[16:45] <Netwolf> they also help you login to many sites and are neded
[16:46] <bogdan> I know about cookies.I have own WAP site-nebulasocial.tk
[16:46] <Netwolf> we have a cookie phobia I think
[16:46] <bogdan> Chrome save, chromium not save
[16:46] <Netwolf> but disregard the entire ad industry based on cookies - which is shockingly complex and intresting
[16:48] <n0p3reXx> Netwolf: agreed.
[16:53] <bogdan> How to run Unity 5 on Linux?Script not elp
[16:53] <bogdan> *help
[16:54] <ikonia> on linuxscript ?
[16:54] <bogdan> on activation service not availaible
[16:54] <bogdan> no
[16:54] <ikonia> bogdan: please be clear in what you're asking, your questions and situations are not being presented as genuine
[16:54] <bogdan> Script download and install unity in wine
[16:54] <bogdan> OK
[16:54] <lenswipe> Hi folks, could someone remind me how to mount a samba share from the command line?
[16:54] <ikonia> I appreciate there is a language barrier
[16:54] <ikonia> lenswipe: mount -t cifs
[16:54] <ikonia> bogdan: unity as in the desktop, or the games development engine ?
[16:55] <bogdan> Unity 3D 5.2
[16:55] <bogdan> haha.Unity desktop on wine :D
[16:55] <ikonia> you'd have to write that script
[16:55] <lenswipe> I'm getting a message saying //<my computer>/<share> isn't in fstab, I suspect I'm calling mount wrong
[16:55] <ikonia> lenswipe: what is the exact command you are running please
[16:55] <bogdan> No.On official wiki i get script.
[16:55] <ikonia> bogdan: ok, use that script
[16:56] <bogdan> Unity lauch but not activation
[16:56] <ikonia> contact the people who make the script/unity to debug their process
[16:57] <lenswipe> ikonia, mount -t cifs -o username=<share user>,password=<share password> //WIN_PC_IP/<share name> /mnt
[16:57] <lenswipe> Wait, it worked sort of but now it says s mount error 22 invalid argument
[16:57] <ikonia> lenswipe: looks solid enough, shouldn't be looking at the fstab fr that
[16:57] <ikonia> for
[16:58] <ikonia> lenswipe: get rid of password and let it prompt you for a password
[16:58] <lenswipe> I missed the mount point the first time ikonia
[16:58] <ikonia> perfect
[16:58] <lenswipe> It's working now, thanks
[16:59] <KaiSVK> HI all
[17:00] <tomreyn> greetings to slovenska
[17:00] <dnor> Hi all. Does anyone know of a utility similar to Localghost for Linux? http://scotchi.net/localghost/ It’s a convinient little utility for managing /etc/hosts
[17:00] <mistralol> anyone know where the new tab menu option has gone from gnome-terminal in 5.10?
[17:00] <ikonia> a text editor is fine for managing /etc/hosts
[17:00] <ikonia> you shouldn't really need to touch /etc/hosts
[17:01] <bogdan> And another question. I have a Radeon 9550 because it is a more powerful PC is not working (SATA controller died). When I try to play a native COP or Day of-the defeat they work very slowly. Although that meet the minimum requirements
[17:01] <bogdan> Sorry
[17:02] <bogdan> Google translate not works normal. When i try play Counter Strike or Day of Defear(Games on GoldSRC)
[17:02] <dnor> ikonia: I need to manage it frequently to switch between live and development services.
[17:03] <ikonia> dnor: just have 2 files /etc/hosts.live /etc/hosts.dev
[17:03] <ikonia> copy the one your want
[17:03] <ikonia> or setup a proper name service
[17:03] <bogdan> can you help me>
[17:03] <bogdan> ?
[17:04] <tomreyn> bogdan: chances are you are using the open drivers. while they integrate well with linux, they cannot usually provide the same performance tas the proprietary drivers, since the vendors do not disclose hoew to use the hardware effectively.
[17:05] <tomreyn> bogdan: so if you have not changed to the proprietary driver stack, yet, you can try whether any are available on your desktops' system settings.
[17:06] <bogdan> Yes i use open source drivers.I try to delete it and install proprietary drivers but i see error of version.How to delete open source driver(and not kill X Window) and install fgl
[17:06] <bogdan> I try play NFS: U on wine.It small lags.Other games like open arena-works fast
[17:09] <aq2> i'm testing ubuntu server 14.04 in virtualbox, i've installed mate-desktop and lightdm but lightdm says "failed to load session". how can i make it load mate?
[17:09] <bogdan> Install dependencies
[17:09] <bogdan> add mate to .xinitrc
[17:09] <cyclick> I set ubuntu to use Dolphin file manager for everything but the trash icon in the bottom left corner opens it as Trash:/// and it should be Trash:/ when using Dolphin... how can I change that?
[17:09] <ikonia> aq2: check the log why it thinks it can't load
[17:10] <ikonia> mate-desktop will bring in all the dependencies you need
[17:10] <aq2> where is that?
[17:10] <bogdan>  i have the same error with KDE on puppy
[17:10] <aq2> hmm
[17:10] <ikonia> aq2: .session ogs
[17:10] <ikonia> logs
[17:10] <ikonia> in your home directory
[17:10] <aq2> Ok
[17:10] <ikonia> also look a the lightdm logs if it's logging in /var/log
[17:10] <bogdan> Can you help me with deleting open source radeon drivers?
[17:11] <aq2> how can i send the contents of a file to pastebin in ubuntu?
[17:11] <aq2> i dont remember the name of the command.
[17:12] <tomreyn> !pastebin | aq2
[17:12] <cyclick> aq2: pastebinit?
[17:12] <bogdan> !paste
[17:12] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | aq2
[17:12] <aq2> yes that was it
[17:13] <aq2> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14448520/
[17:14] <aq2> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.old -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14448541/
[17:14] <aq2> how exactly can i tell it to use mate instead of nonexistent unity?
[17:14] <DalekSec> !info libapp-nopaste-perl
[17:15] <spartiates> hello
[17:16] <spartiates> I search french irc channel to sysadmin
[17:16] <bogdan> !fr
[17:16] <spartiates> !fr
[17:17] <bogdan> !fr | spartiates
[17:17] <spartiates> thx
[17:17] <bogdan> ok
[17:18] <dmatt> bogdan: did you use driver manager to switch from open source driver?
[17:18] <bogdan> No
[17:18] <bogdan> What is?
[17:18] <bogdan> Additional drivers?
[17:21] <dmatt> ubuntu has automated way to switch to different drivers, it is available in Driver manager
[17:21] <anonymous287> hello, i would like to add themes for ubuntu, but gnome tweak tool dont read it (i can t choose it in gtk+ )
[17:22] <dmatt> bogdan: I am in kubuntu, let me check how is it called in ubuntu
[17:22] <ikonia> the most common cause for that is, it's not a valid theme
[17:22] <bogdan> May be send screenshot?
[17:22] <bogdan> My lubuntu on english
[17:22] <cfhowlett> anonymous287, gnome?   ubuntu no longer uses gnome
[17:23] <bogdan> KUbuntu very slow works on Celeron D
[17:23] <dmatt> bogdan: try to run command jockey
[17:23] <anonymous287> yes gnome
[17:23] <bogdan> jockey command not found
[17:23] <ikonia> jockey is long gone
[17:24] <ikonia> it's the additional drivers tool in the menu
[17:24] <bogdan> One minuet
[17:24] <dmatt> thanks ikonia
[17:24] <ikonia> system -> administration -> hardware -> additional drivers
[17:24] <bogdan> No proprietary drivers are in use
[17:24] <ikonia> thats the documented location
[17:24] <ikonia> I've not got lubuntu here to check
[17:25] <bogdan> Additional drivers in main menu
[17:25] <bogdan> Searching for available drivers...
[17:25] <dmatt> bogdan: you should see if there closed source drivers available for yout gtaphics or other hw
[17:25] <PHroGman> Have a canon mx 922 printer attached to my network vis ethernet cable into router. Cand get ubuntu 14.04 to find the scanner on the network. It does howver find the printer.
[17:26] <dmatt> when it finishes searching
[17:26] <ikonia> the propritary drivers probably dropped support for that card
[17:26] <bogdan> Drivers available on amd.com but not install
[17:26] <ikonia> it's quite old
[17:26] <bogdan> Radeon 9550 is created in 2004 :D
[17:26] <bogdan> But driver exists
[17:27] <bogdan> I send screenshot
[17:27] <ikonia> driver exists where ?
[17:27] <ikonia> don't need a screen shot
[17:28] <bogdan> No
[17:28] <bogdan> Sorry
[17:28] <bogdan> Driver can download on official site
[17:28] <bogdan> but in additional drivers my videocard not exists
[17:28] <ikonia> the official site probably doesn't support it any more
[17:28] <ikonia> if it's not in the additional drivers, it's normally because support has ben dropped
[17:29] <bogdan> Unknown: Unknown this device is not workins
[17:29] <bogdan> *working
[17:29] <bogdan> Using processor microcode firmware for intel cpu from intel-micrcode
[17:29] <bogdan> do not use the device
[17:29] <bogdan> it radio buttons from dialog
[17:31] <aq2> still getting "failed to start session"
[17:31] <aq2> i've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:32] <bogdan> Unknow: unknown this device is using an alternative driver
[17:32] <bogdan> *unknown
[17:33] <dmatt> bogdan: what kind of information are you pasting here?
[17:33] <bogdan>   what is ascii char
[17:33] <bogdan> In additional drivers
[17:34] <OerHeks> Radeon 9550 is only supported with the open driver, AFAIK
[17:34] <dmatt> sounds like from a log, not from graphical program
[17:34] <bogdan> One minuet
[17:34] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:36] <Bassem> is there equalizer for Rhythmbox
[17:37] <OerHeks>  only Clementine has a buildin eq, AFAIK.
[17:37] <naughty-1923> Anybady help me ''grub rescue'' about ?
[17:37] <Muh2> Hi, how can I install Pycharm and be able to call it from terminal as "pycharm"? (by the way I'm from Windows, learning Ubuntu)
[17:37] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, nope. vlc has one as does banshee
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  rhythmbox has some plugins
[17:37] <OerHeks> oh nice
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !find rhythmbox | Bassem
[17:38] <OerHeks> there is a PPA with a lot of plugins incl Equaliser > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/install-rhythmbox-plugins-ubuntu-1404/
[17:40] <aq2> here's a zip of my /var/log/lightdm http://wikisend.com/download/432196/archive.zip
[17:40] <aq2> can someone help?
[17:41] <nicomachus> perhaps paste it to a pastebin, and don't zip it up.
[17:41] <aq2> its 6 files
[17:41] <aq2> but i can do that too.
[17:41] <cfhowlett> aq2, we ain't opening some strange zip!  state you
[17:41] <aq2> Ok got it
[17:44] <bogdan> http://support.amd.com/ru-ru/download
[17:44] <PHroGman> So I have a program called AcquireImages on my Ubuntu machine. Does not have an option to remove . Tried command line but says it cant find it
[17:44] <PHroGman> any ideas?
[17:45] <bogdan> In this if fill form Desktop Graphics, Radeon 9xxx, Radeon 9550, Linux 32BIT
[17:45] <bogdan> then may download driver
[17:45] <OerHeks> bogdan, useless,Radeon 9550 is only supported with the open driver
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !find acquire
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  how did you install it?
[17:46] <IceNine> can someone shed some light on what i'm doing wrong
[17:46] <IceNine> i've got a mount on /media/user/media with rwx----- perms
[17:46] <IceNine> i'm trying to change it to rwx-xr-x (755), anything i try it doesn't seem to change the permissions on this mount i've tried chmod -R 755 /media/user/media and with sudo
[17:46] <PHroGman> Dont remember if I used synaptic or software center
[17:46] <IceNine> the mount is a local drive
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  it's not in the repos
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  what is the output of   cat /etc/issue
[17:47] <bogdan> But catalyst 9.10 supports radeon 9550
[17:47] <bogdan> amd.com have cayalyst 9.10
[17:48] <aq2> here's the logs http://dpaste.com/134MW52
[17:48] <bogdan> open source drvier is very slow
[17:48] <PHroGman> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:48] <OerHeks> bogdan, well, if you think it works .. i think we see you back soon
[17:48] <bogdan> Question
[17:48] <bogdan> how
[17:48] <bogdan> to
[17:48] <bogdan> delete
[17:49] <bogdan> open source driver
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  that program is not in the repos ... did you use a ppa?
[17:49] <ioria> !info kipi-plugins
[17:49] <OerHeks> bogdan, what do you want with such old GPU ? be glad it works  with the open driver, hardwaresupport ( for ATI/Nvidia ) is guaranteed for hardware up to 5 years.
[17:50] <ioria> PHroGman, see if you have this package:  kipi-plugins
[17:50] <ioria> PHroGman, or this:  digikam
[17:51] <PHroGman> I do
[17:51] <Saulo> hello guys!
[17:51] <Saulo> how are doing??
[17:51] <bogdan> i don't want install windows
[17:51] <bogdan> hi
[17:52] <PHroGman> digiKam architecture-independant data
[17:52] <ioria> PHroGman, if you run    apt-cache show kipi-plugins            you'll see    AcquireImages      : acquire images using flat scanner
[17:52] <PHroGman> kipi-plugins architecture-independent data
[17:53] <ioria> PHroGman, i think is related to those packages .....
[17:53] <aq2> any help with my lightdm problem?
[17:53] <bogdan> if driver radeon driver for linux kernel 2.6 lubuntu 15.10 works?
[17:53] <bogdan> Sorry
[17:53] <bogdan> If i install radeon driver for linux kernel 2.6
[17:53] <PHroGman> I uninstalled digicam via software center
[17:54] <nicomachus> bogdan: I doubt you are on kernel 2.6
[17:54] <bogdan> 15.10 on kernel 2.6?
[17:54] <ioria> PHroGman, try with command line to purge/remove kipi-plugins
[17:54] <nicomachus> 15.10 is on kernel 4.2
[17:55] <OerHeks> !info linux-image precise
[17:55] <PHroGman> 5 (>= 4.0.3), kipi-plugins-common (= 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu10)
[17:55] <PHroGman> Recommends: imagemagick, hugin, enblend, enfuse, minidnla
[17:55] <PHroGman> Suggests: gallery, gimp, kmail, vorbis-tools
[17:55] <PHroGman> Breaks: digikam (<< 4:3.4.0), kipi-plugins-common (<< 4:3.1.0-3ubuntu1~)
[17:55] <PHroGman> Filename: pool/universe/d/digikam/kipi-plugins_3.5.0-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[17:55] <PHroGman> Size: 3371162
[17:55] <bogdan> !faq
[17:55] <OerHeks> bogdan, even precise is on 3.+ , no way to install such old kernel on 15.10
[17:56] <bogdan> i don't need install old kernel
[17:56] <bogdan> i need to install driver for old kernel
[17:56] <ioria> PHroGman, don't paste in here, use paste.ubuntu.com or pastebinit
[17:56] <PHroGman>   RemoveRedEyes      : remove red eyes on image automatically
[17:56] <PHroGman>   SendImages         : send images by e-mail
[17:56] <PHroGman>   SimpleViewerExport : export images to Flash using SimpleViewer
[17:56] <PHroGman>   SlideShow          : Slide images with 2D and 3D effects using OpenGL
[17:56] <PHroGman>   Smug               : import/export images to/from a remote SmugMug
[17:56] <samic> Problem with Ubuntu server: gives 403 for the main domain and 200 for the alias domain directed to the same directory. Any help?
[17:56] <PHroGman>   TimeAdjust         : adjust date and time
[17:56] <ioria> PHroGman, don't paste in here, use paste.ubuntu.com or pastebinit
[17:56] <nicomachus> !paste | PHroGman
[17:56] <OerHeks> bogdan, good luck, i told already it is not going to work.
[17:57] <bogdan> I hear open source driver not slow when proprietary driver
[17:57] <bogdan> wtf?
[18:01] <ioria> PHroGman, keep it in the public  channel, please
[18:01] <Herte434> Hi. How should I update a compiled software? Just compile it again and hope everything gets overwritten or is that bad practice?
[18:01] <bogdan> Herte434
[18:01] <aq2> reinstall it?
[18:02] <ikonia> Herte434: you should be using software packages from maintained, trusted sources
[18:02] <bogdan> how to compile programs writed on C/C++?I get errors on ANY program when i install
[18:02] <OerHeks> Herte434, that is the normal way yes, make sure you compile the uninstall script too
[18:02] <ikonia> bogdan: use packages is the short answer
[18:02] <Herte434> ikonia: Sometimes there are no packages :/
[18:02] <ioria> PHroGman, if you have unistalled digikam , try again with   sudo apt-get purge digikam   , the sudo apt-get unistall kipi-plugins
[18:02] <ikonia> Herte434: there always should be, and there is not, thats where you should be working with the community to get them made for yourself and others
[18:02] <aq2> bogdan: i think you need g++ for that
[18:02] <ikonia> no you don't
[18:03] <bogdan> i have gcc
[18:03] <ioria> PHroGman, occasionally , sudo apt-get purge kipi-plugins-common
[18:03] <bogdan> 5
[18:03] <bogdan> gcc 5
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: what are you trying to build ?
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: most software will have a pre-built package available
[18:03] <bogdan> sudo su
[18:03] <bogdan> ./configure
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: stop
[18:03] <bogdan> make
[18:03] <bogdan> make install
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: I'm not asking how
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: WHAT are you trying to build
[18:03] <OerHeks> bogdan, any error gives a clue what -dev you are missing. linux is awesome
[18:03] <bogdan> Aaa.Sorry
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: you should not be compiling software as root either
[18:04] <bogdan> I compile with sudo su
[18:04] <OerHeks> ikonia +1
[18:04] <bogdan> errors in code
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: you should never use "sudo su"
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: and you sohuld not be compiling as root
[18:04] <truexfan81> bogdan: if there is any version of the program in the repos apt-get build-dep can help pull in the needed -dev packages
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: what software are you trying to build
[18:04] <bogdan> Okay thanks
[18:05] <bogdan> I try build ALSA
[18:05] <ikonia> bogdan: alsa is already packaged in the ubuntu repos
[18:05] <ikonia> there is zero reason to build it
[18:05] <ikonia> bogdan: open software center and search for alsa, you'll find it's already in
[18:05] <Volkodav> Hi! I am getting quite a few updates but the install errors out with "install or removal of a package failed" ?
[18:05] <ikonia> bogdan: from everything you told me so far, I'd suggest your machine is at a risk of being in a bad state
[18:05] <bogdan> But alsa not compile
[18:06] <ikonia> bogdan: you don't need to compile alsa
[18:06] <ikonia> bogdan: you open software center, search for alsa and click install
[18:06] <PHroGman> That did it thanks
[18:06] <ikonia> it's already built and packaged for you in the ubuntu software repos
[18:06] <PHroGman> You guys rock!
[18:06] <ioria> PHroGman, you're welcome
[18:07] <bogdan> I just put it yesterday ubuntu 15.10
[18:07] <slidinghorn> Volkodav: Please paste the whole output into a pastebin and give us the link
[18:07] <bogdan> Sorry
[18:07] <bogdan> I install ubuntu 15.10 yesterday
[18:07] <ikonia> bogdan: yes, and you've already tried to copmile things, installed packages from old version repos,
[18:07] <bogdan> And not compiles gcc 4 from gcc5
[18:08] <Volkodav> slidinghorn: Ok
[18:08] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Show us the results in a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . so we see the errors and in context . Then we see what we can do .
[18:08] <ikonia> bogdan: you've already put your machine at risk trying to compile things wrong - when there are already packages for your machine and installing packages from old versions of ubuntu on your current version
[18:09] <bogdan> No
[18:09] <bogdan> GCC 4 - 2007 - 2010 year
[18:09] <ikonia> bogdan: you showed me the old repo archive where you tried to install gcc 2.95 from
[18:09] <bogdan> Aaargh
[18:10] <bogdan> I try to compile other gcc
[18:10] <bogdan> gcc 4.9 not compiles
[18:10] <ikonia> stop trying to copile things
[18:10] <ikonia> compile
[18:10] <ikonia> you have no need
[18:10] <ikonia> you are making a mess of your machine
[18:10] <Guiri> I've having a bit of trouble performing an apt-get upgrade: http://fpaste.org/309009/36303014/  I tried running dpkg --configure -a already.
[18:10] <bogdan> I need to compile linux 0.11
[18:10] <bogdan> but
[18:10] <ikonia> bogdan: no you don't
[18:11] <bogdan> linux 0.11 need gcc 2.95
[18:11] <ikonia> bogdan: why do you need to compile a kernal that is roghly 20 years old ?
[18:11] <bogdan> Yes :D
[18:11] <ikonia> why
[18:11] <bogdan> I modify kernel
[18:11] <bogdan> but i don't compile
[18:11] <aq2> Guiri: try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[18:11] <bogdan> *can't
[18:11] <ikonia> bogdan: why are you playing with a 20 year old kernel that will never work on a modern system ?
[18:12] <bogdan> I want to make my own distro
[18:12] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449271/
[18:12] <ikonia> bogdan: you have no chance, it's clear you really don't understand what you are doing. And a 20 year old kernel is not a good starting place
[18:12] <truexfan81> bogdan: make one with a modern kernel then
[18:12] <Volkodav> slidinghorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449271/
[18:12] <bogdan> Year ago i write simple OS kernel on nasm but it not... compatible with *nix
[18:13] <ikonia> bogdan: the kernel is the OS
[18:13] <ikonia> bogdan: how can the kernel not be compatible with something
[18:13] <bogdan> Sorry
[18:13] <ikonia> this is a pointless discussion thats not really on topic for this channel
[18:13] <bogdan> Lang barrier
[18:13] <ikonia> bogdan: I strongly suggest you look at how you are using your ubuntu machine, it's going to cause you problems in the future
[18:14] <Guiri> aq2: Thanks.  Same error, unfortunately.
[18:14] <aq2> hmm :(
[18:14] <truexfan81> Volkodav: try sudo dpkg -r libopencv-video2.4v5:amd64   see if it can remove it
[18:15] <nicomachus> Guiri: purge ffmpeg and then reinstall it
[18:15] <bogdan> Me interestI find it interesting to make their OS. On the basis of Ubuntu I do not want to. Knowledge of C ++ but there are only under Windows. Therefore, I am a noob to you
[18:15] <Guiri> nicomachus: will do
[18:17] <Volkodav> truexfan81: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449341/
[18:17] <blz> Hello, I plugged in a USB drive but it doesn't show up in `lsblk`. It does, however, show up in dmesg:  http://hastebin.com/avumirefib.vhdl  How can I determine which "/dev/" it is?
[18:17] <ikonia> use the blokid
[18:17] <ikonia> don't reference the old style device names
[18:17] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449271/ .
[18:18] <blz> ikonia, were you talking to me?  If so, could you please elaborate?
[18:18] <Guiri> nicomachus: I'm stumped: http://fpaste.org/309010/36347514/
[18:18] <truexfan81> package/dependency system sucks at times
[18:18] <truexfan81> most of the time its great tho
[18:18] <bogdan> I can write an application in OpenGL and draw sprites. I am able to work with the audio subsystem of Windows. Versed in VynApi. But I want to make their OS is compatible with unix
[18:19] <bogdan> Aaargh
[18:19] <bogdan> Google translate
[18:19] <bogdan> WinApi
[18:19] <derenir> bogdan: if you want to write your own distro from scratch you can google LINUX FROM SCRATCH
[18:19] <bogdan> Hm... thanks
[18:20] <derenir> bogdan it explains how to compile the kernel the glibc the gcc the binutils etc
[18:22] <bogdan> May be i can compile gcc and binutils.I can simply modify kernel with adds some features
[18:22] <ikonia> bogdan: no
[18:22] <ikonia> bogdan: stop trying to do this
[18:22] <ikonia> this is not how to use ubuntu
[18:22] <ratchetman> anyone really good with avconv? I am trying to capture video and audio but when I do it together the crf is being ignored for the video portion
[18:23] <bogdan> I really noob :(
[18:23] <bogdan> But even then a student brought a Linux distribution. And I'm here I can not :(
[18:24] <ratchetman> using libx264 - sorry that would probably help
[18:24] <ikonia> bogdan: sorry, what do you mean, it's getting lost in translation
[18:24] <derenir> bogdan you can install an older distro and compile gcc from there
[18:25] <derenir> bogdan is trying to compile gcc4 with gcc5
[18:25] <ikonia> he is trying to do a lot more than that
[18:25] <bogdan> Wow!Thanks.
[18:25] <ikonia> he has mixed packages from old ubuntu versions on to the 15.10 version he's running
[18:25] <ikonia> he's tried to compile software wrongly/badly
[18:25] <bogdan> Red Hat 9 have old GCC!!!!
[18:25] <ikonia> you can't use that
[18:25] <bogdan> ?
[18:25] <ikonia> redhat 9 is dead
[18:25] <ikonia> actually - do what you want with redhat, good luck
[18:26] <bogdan> "bogdan you can install an older distro and compile gcc from there"
[18:26] <uRock> If I am using the Wily kernel in ubuntu 14.04, then do I download the VirtualBox installer for WIly?
[18:26] <derenir> bogdan are you going to modify the kernel? linux 0.1 will not boot in qemu
[18:27] <ikonia> uRock: you don't use the wily kernel in 14.04
[18:27] <bogdan> ???
[18:27] <derenir> search google for linux 0.1 qemu ---------- it doesn't boot
[18:27] <bogdan> Not boot???
[18:27] <bogdan> But...
[18:27] <Guest60098> is there a way to set my LXDE desktop to where if i pull GUI windows far enough to one side of the screen, they align on that side of the screen?
[18:27] <ikonia> uRock: or do you mean the LTS enablement stack ?
[18:27] <Guest60098> like it does in Windows?
[18:27] <blz> I'm late into the conversation but maybe buildroot is what bogdan is looking for?
[18:27] <uRock> ikonia, I am using 4.2.0-23-generic in Wily
[18:27] <r0x> Hi
[18:27] <ikonia> bogdan: it's really not
[18:28] <ikonia> uRock: you said you where using 14.04
[18:28] <derenir> https://www.google.com/#q=linux+0.11+qemu it needs to be modified to boot
[18:28] <ikonia> blz: it's really not what he was looking for
[18:28]  * blz backs away quietly
[18:28] <bogdan> hm... 2.6 is very hard
[18:28] <KNUBBIG> Hi, I'm having a problem with iptables dropping packets even though the policy is set to accept and there is no rule for dropping. Any ideas? :(
[18:28] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: why do you think iptables is dropping packaets
[18:28] <r0x> There is a way to prevent that a manual fix in kernel driver will be overwritten by a future kernel update?
[18:28] <ikonia> packets
[18:29] <blz> Bogdan, would you mind reiterating what you're trying to do?
[18:29] <blz> bogdan ^
[18:29] <uRock> I am , installed the linux-generic-lts-wily package
[18:29] <ikonia> uRock: ok, so thats the enablement stack
[18:29] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: i added an entry for logging dropped packets and syslog shows exactly that :(
[18:29] <uRock> ikonia,  I am installed the linux-generic-lts-wily package
[18:29] <uRock> ikonia, k
[18:30] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: what are the nature of those packets, as it won't just drop them unless it matches the table rule/pattern
[18:30] <bogdan> ?
[18:30] <bogdan> write kernel on asm?
[18:30] <uRock> ikonia, I just want to make sure I don
[18:30] <BrokenBoy> hi
[18:30] <bogdan> google translate bad works.
[18:30] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: rules: http://pastebin.com/zS2GSZmp dropped packet example: http://pastebin.com/LBey74fB it drops all kinds of packets, including email-related packets
[18:31] <sasquatch_> bogdan: you should read this http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/read.html
[18:31] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: I don't understand it as there isn't even a rule for dropping anything
[18:31] <nicomachus> bogdan: what is your native language?
[18:31] <bogdan> Thanks
[18:31] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: maybe I'm reading your rules wrong, but that looks like it should drpo them
[18:32] <bogdan> native language?I write on Pascal(FPC) / C
[18:32] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: so you have new connections for destination port 22
[18:32] <nicomachus> bogdan: no... what language do you speak?
[18:32] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: and return trip for established connections from anywhere
[18:32] <IceNine> can someone help with permissions on a mount?
[18:32] <uRock> I'll go ahead with the WIly install and see what happens
[18:32] <bogdan> Russian
[18:32] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: the rule it's dropping is destination port 143
[18:33] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Sorry, but I can not make out what is going on with google's talkplugin package. I do not know if it is related to " libopencv-video2.4v5:amd64 " error .
[18:33] <slidinghorn> IceNine: Just go ahead and ask you question in the channel...if anyone knows the answer, they'll answer :)
[18:33] <nicomachus> bogdan: perhaps #ubuntu-ru would be better for you then.
[18:33] <IceNine> trying to chmod but seems like nothing is happening
[18:33] <bogdan> don't send me to Russian channel)
[18:33] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: yea but I don't see a rule matching 143 or am I missing something? As the policy is set to ACCEPT, shouldn't everything that isn't set to REJECT/DROP go through?
[18:33] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: Well I think I know where to dig - it is a dependency issue
[18:33] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: thats the point, there is no rule matching 143 , so it gets blocked
[18:34] <bogdan> There are very few people
[18:34] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: you accept new connections on port 22, and you accept established connection returns on anything else, thats it
[18:34] <ikonia> you're trying to make a new connection on 143, so you get blocked
[18:34] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: oh what is the policy for, then? I thought that would accept everything not blocked?
[18:34] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: K, Has my interest so I learn .
[18:35] <IceNine> fresh install, existing local drive (from windows) mnounted on /media/user/Media with rwx permissions,  I"m trying to set them to 755, when i chmod i don't get any errors, but the permissions do not change, i've also tried sudo chmod
[18:35] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: you're saying "accept policy - things to accept = anything on port 22 and, anything thats already got an established connection"
[18:35] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: so anything that doesn't match those rules, won't hit the accept policy
[18:36] <ikonia> IceNine: you can't change permissions on nfts
[18:37] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: oh wow thanks I completely misunderstood the policy then - thanks!
[18:37] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: no problem, iptables is rock solid, so whatever you think, it won't randomly drop things, the problem will always be with your rule set
[18:39] <IceNine> ikonia, ahaaa
[18:39] <Bassem> can uget open more than one connection for the same downloading file?
[18:39] <ikonia> IceNine: ?
[18:39] <IceNine> ikonia, i've been banging my head against this all day
[18:40] <ikonia> ?? not seen you today so no idea what you're talking about
[18:40] <bogdan> Can i fork older ubuntu(5.x), write my own programs and share source(and distro) with others?
[18:40] <IceNine> on my own
[18:40] <ikonia> bogdan: those distros are dead
[18:40] <IceNine> trying to figure out why it's not working
[18:40] <ikonia> bogdan: it will be impossible to maintain them
[18:41] <xangua> bogdan: fork what? Gnome 2? There is Ubuntu Mate
[18:41] <ikonia> bogdan: being honest - you don't have the skill set to appear to be able to "use" a distribution, let alone write your own/modify your own
[18:41] <ikonia> bogdan: start with something smaller, maybe bug fixing some current ubuntu bugs
[18:41] <sasquatch_> when you fork, you just want to fork the pieces that are important to you and use the latest stable repositories of the upsteam distro for everything else
[18:41] <bogdan> Which distribution to base? I am able to write a player, web browser and other simple programs
[18:41] <bogdan> Relatively simple.
[18:41] <ikonia> bogdan: a modern one, eg: ubuntu 15.10
[18:42] <ikonia> bogdan: but I suggest you change your approach and try to learn how things work by fixing bugs in existing software in modern linux distributions
[18:42] <sasquatch_> i'd use the LTS to reduce the amount of code revisions needed on your part
[18:42] <bhalash> bogdan: Whatever is latest if you don't care about long-term support
[18:43] <bogdan> Hm... get compiled ubuntu or build?
[18:43] <sasquatch_> instead of a new distro, it's easier to just do a new desktop
[18:43] <sasquatch_> then create a meta package for your desktop
[18:43] <ikonia> bogdan: what are you talking about
[18:43] <ikonia> bogdan: ubuntu is already build, packaged and distributed for you
[18:44] <sasquatch_> with a new desktop, other ubuntu derivative distros could use it too
[18:44] <ikonia> hang on - lets be totally honest here
[18:44] <ikonia> no-one is going to use anything at this stage
[18:44] <sasquatch_> this stage being he hasn't even begun
[18:44] <ikonia> learn how the programs work
[18:44] <bhalash> bogdan: You could probably compile it all, and lose days of time for no good end
[18:44] <uRock> Had to use the VBox for 14.04, the Wily one had dependency issues
[18:45] <bogdan> I mean take a distribution already compiled and modify it or build from the source code?
[18:45] <ikonia> bogdan: you can't build from the source code - you've already proven that
[18:45] <ikonia> why are you doing that
[18:45] <ikonia> why are you even trying to build a distro when you can't use linux at a basic level
[18:45] <ikonia> you're sprinting before crawling
[18:46] <mika`> bogdan ~ i wouldn't touch your distro to be honest.
[18:46] <mika`> who would?
[18:46] <sasquatch_> if you fork gnome 3 to re-add categories on the left-hand side to sort the app icons, i will use it
[18:46] <intrigus> Hello, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nss/libnss3-nssdb_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_all.deb returns a 404, but it previously existed, see http://web.archive.org/web/20151222043013/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nss/ does anybody know, why it got removed?
[18:46] <sasquatch_> right-hand side i mean
[18:46] <bogdan> Are you haters?
[18:46] <ikonia> no
[18:46] <ikonia> it's called being "real"
[18:47] <mika`> honest-ers
[18:47] <bhalash> bogdan: You're either dumb, dumb and obstinate or a troll
[18:47] <bogdan> No
[18:49] <bogdan> I'm just the one who lit the enthusiasm to make your distribution. I do not care about other people's opinions, I'm interested all. I just want to make your Linux distribution is not listening to people's opinions. I'm trying to get answers to their questions but I see that my project is trying to "crap" Considering my redneck encoder and stupid idiot
[18:49] <ikonia> bogdan: this channel will help you use ubuntu
[18:49] <ikonia> it will not help you build your own distribution
[18:49] <OerHeks> intrigus, update, there has been an nss update not long ago.  look at 14.04.1_all deb, we are on 14.04.2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libnss3
[18:49] <yuzdumb> ikonia: it sure will bogdan
[18:49] <ikonia> yuzdumb: it sure will what ?
[18:50] <bhalash> It's a channel for help, not a stage upon which to evangelise
[18:50] <bluenemo> hi guys. I'm on 14.04 and just installed keepalived, it seems none of the scripts defined for promote / demote are ever executed
[18:50] <intrigus> OerHeks I don't think that I can update, It's a CI Server... Any alternative?
[18:50] <bogdan> I'm not experienced. But I want to get experience.  And then they say that the Russian bad; (
[18:51] <bluenemo> my keepalived config: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/cea31996/
[18:51] <OerHeks> intrigus, sure you can, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:51] <ikonia> bogdan: this channel can only help you use ubuntu, it will not help/support you building your own distro
[18:51] <ikonia> bogdan: we are happy to help you use ubuntu
[18:51] <bogdan> Okay
[18:51] <OerHeks> intrigus, if you can not, take that machine from the internet
[18:52] <bogdan> And maybe I'll decide what I do and how? I am an adult, I'll decide what I can do and how
[18:52] <intrigus> OerHeks, it's not my machine :D I'm usinghttps://app.wercker.com/#buildstep/56914f320002cf5f3f01b41d . So I'll probably have to send them a ticket...
[18:53] <intrigus> * https://app.wercker.com/#buildstep/56914f320002cf5f3f01b41d
[18:53] <bogdan> Sorry
[18:53] <ikonia> bogdan: you can do whatever you want, we will not support you though
[18:53] <ikonia> (we = this channel)
[18:53] <bogdan> I immediately saw that the message is not for me
[18:53] <OerHeks> intrigus, the 1st thing i see >  Build failed on intrigus-patch-2 .. sure you want to do buils package?
[18:54] <bencc> I'm enable to install this under wily
[18:54] <bencc> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-`uname -r`
[18:54] <bencc> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.19.0-43-generic
[18:54] <bencc> what am I missing?
[18:54] <ikonia> bogdan: to be clear it is for you, "we will help you use ubuntu, we will not help you build your own distro or do unsupported changes to ubuntu"
[18:54] <ikonia> bencc: does that package exist ?
[18:54] <bogdan> OKay, OKay, OKay, OKay
[18:54] <ikonia> not all kernels have an extras package
[18:55] <bencc> ikonia: where?
[18:55] <ikonia> bencc: in the ubuntu repos
[18:55] <bencc> ikonia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/kernel/linux-image-extra-3.19.0-43-generic
[18:55] <derenir> bencc if the apt database is newer it cannot see the older package
[18:56] <ikonia> bencc: ok, so what happens if you search for that package i the package manager
[18:56] <derenir> bencc you have updated the apt database so it can only find a newer version
[18:56] <ikonia> or as derenir has just shortcutted to the root of it
[18:56] <bencc> derenir: I'm using lxc. so probably trying to find the package in the wily repo but using the host trusty kernel
[18:57] <bencc> what do I need to add to the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[18:57] <ikonia> lxc - won't that take the kernel from the host
[18:57] <ikonia> you're not meant to mess/change with kernel packages on lxc as it's running the kernel from the host as para-virtual
[18:57] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-extra wily
[18:57] <bencc> ikonia: I'm trying to create snd-dumy in the container
[18:58] <bencc> do I need to create it in the host?
[18:58] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-extra trusty
[18:58] <ikonia> bencc: that doesn't change what I said though
[18:58] <bhalash> On Unbuntu: I've used the distro religiously for a few years, but always on a server and at the CLI level. What is the desktop experience like these days.   When I left mouse click on somethings it doesn't respond. Also the A key doesn't work. These worked on Win 7 before installing ubuntu. Any thoughts?
[19:00] <liann>  can someone teach me how to hack someone's facebook account ??
[19:00] <ikonia> liann: nope, don't ask again
[19:00] <liann> ok
[19:00] <derenir> bencc have you disable updates and security in apt.conf?
[19:00] <liann> what cool thing can i do with ubuntu ?
[19:01] <bhalash> liann: Does you keyboard work under another OS or software configuration?
[19:01] <ikonia> liann: use it and find out
[19:01] <derenir> bencc have you disable updates and security in source.list?
[19:01] <bhalash> liann: Is the problem specific to the Ubuntu desktop only?
[19:01] <ikonia> bhalash: he's asking how to hack facebook accounts, nothing to do with keyboards
[19:01] <bhalash> ikonia: D'oh, meant that for sstory
[19:01] <bhalash> ikonia: Sorry!
[19:01] <ikonia> oops
[19:01] <ikonia> no need for sorry, it's a busy channel
[19:02] <bhalash> sstory: Is the problem specific to the Ubuntu desktop? Does your keyboard work fine under Windows still?
[19:02] <sstory> bhalash As stated in the OP, it had windows 7 on it a few minutes ago with no problems with that.
[19:02] <liann> bhalash: what cool can i do with ubuntu ?
[19:02] <sstory> Win 7 gone. I allowed ubuntu to overwrite
[19:02] <ikonia> liann: use it and find out
[19:02] <liann> ikonia: how ?
[19:02] <ikonia> liann: https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:02] <ikonia> liann: gives you some idea how to use the desktop environment
[19:03] <bhalash> sstory: Could be a drive or config issue. How comfortable are you with console commands?
[19:03] <liann> ikonia: ok
[19:03] <bhalash> sstory: My first reflex would be to kill the desktop environent and see if the keyboard works in a raw terminal
[19:03] <sstory> bhalash: I am a net admin and work with Linux, just not much with Ubuntu
[19:03] <Herte454> Hi. I am new to creating packages and my question is what pbuilder makes? So, why is a build environment needed?
[19:03] <sstory> bhalash: If I go to tty1, the a key still doesn't work.
[19:04] <bogdan> Ikonia can you install arch linux :) ?
[19:04] <bhalash> sstory: Gotcha, that narrows down the problem. Give me a second to pull up a link. I had this problem a few weeks ago
[19:04] <YamakasY> can I pipe existing logging from software like /var/log/software/log.log to a remote server too ?
[19:04] <ikonia> bogdan: join the archlinux channel and read the archlinux docuentation
[19:04] <bhalash> sstory: Is your keyboard non-English?
[19:04] <ikonia> bogdan: as you've been told multiple times now this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY
[19:05] <sstory> bhalash: it isn't just a. It is a,q and Z.  No my keyboard is English. I specified English and English layout.  What the installer may have done, I'm not sure if otherwise.  The onboard keyboard allows typing an A
[19:05] <sstory> bhalash: i meant, on screen keyboard.
[19:06] <knob> Hey guys... got a question. I am using scp to copy data from one server to the other.   On the destination server, I am dropping the data into a mount point that is a second hdd.   Yet I see the main partition in that server filling up.
[19:06] <bhalash> sstory: Would ypu have the make and model of your laptop on hand?
[19:06] <Herte454> What happens if I type 'pbuilder-dist trusty create '?
[19:06] <knob> Is this a "buffer" that drops the data in there, and at some point transfers everything over to the destination mount point?
[19:06] <sstory> bhalash: Dell Lattitude E5500
[19:07] <naughty-1923> Who can i help me Debian grub repair ?
[19:07] <adminpidar> Hi
[19:07] <OerHeks> YamakasY, edit /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf to change the destination, old howto but still valid i think http://www.randomhacks.co.uk/how-to-configure-an-ubuntu-server-to-log-to-a-remote-syslog-server/
[19:07] <adminpidar> Can you help me with problem?
[19:07] <bhalash> sstory: Try running sudo apt-get install console-common as root
[19:07] <naughty-1923> Who can help me Debian grub repair ?
[19:07] <adminpidar> What the dick I was banned?
[19:08]  * naughty-1923 Who can help me Debian grub repair ?
[19:08] <bhalash> sstory: That should trigger configuration for console variables like keyboard
[19:08] <OerHeks> naughty-1923, try #debian
[19:08] <thiuop> That's so cool
[19:08] <naughty-1923> oo thanks OerHeks
[19:08] <bhalash> sstory: May not work for you, but it nailed the problem for me
[19:08] <naughty-1923> i am new :)
[19:08] <YamakasY> OerHeks: can be done for every logfile ?
[19:09] <OerHeks> YamakasY, yes i believe so.
[19:10] <sstory> bhalash:  Trying... give me a sec because the ! also doesn't work and I need it....must use from on screen keyboard.  It is that whole left row of keys.
[19:10] <knob> Guys, any thoughts in having scp drop a "buffer" into the main partition, instead of the destination?
[19:11] <YamakasY> OerHeks: mhh cannot find it :(
[19:11] <bhalash> sstory: Not able to paste? :(
[19:11] <bhalash> sstory: Duh, different machines. Sorry.  You could buy anything from them. Tractors houses plows. Then came the liberals unions. Ruined America.
[19:12] <sstory> bhalash: when every command seems to need an a it is difficult. I have that running now.
[19:13] <sstory> bhalash:  I assume to choose keymap, and pc/qwerty/US american/Std/Std? Correct?
[19:13] <bhalash> There may be a choice for Dell Latitude
[19:14] <YamakasY> buy a lenovo :D
[19:14] <bhalash> sstory: There may be a choice for a Dell Latitude
[19:15] <rocfig__> Anyone can offer some assistance with partitions on mac? tried to install ubuntu, ended up losing my main mac partition. Re-installed mac from recovery on disk0s2, now I'm missing about 100gb of hard drive space and can't figure out how to recover. Was trying to install ubuntu off usb. Booted into it, must've fucked something up in the partitioning there during install.
[19:15] <luiz> Hi, has someone installed Python here?
[19:15] <ioria> luiz i think is pre-installed
[19:16] <bhalash> luiz: It comes installed
[19:16] <sstory> bhalash: I don't see anything for Dell.  I have qwerty std, or ISO 8859-1 or ISO 8859-15
[19:16] <luiz> I'm having an issue, I can't install Packages using pip after installing pip...
[19:16] <sstory> bhalash: I have no idea which of those I might need
[19:16] <ioria> !info python-pip
[19:17] <luiz> I get: Exception:
[19:17] <luiz> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:17] <luiz>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 122, in main
[19:17] <luiz>     status = self.run(options, args)
[19:17] <luiz>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pip/commands/install.py", line 283, in run
[19:17] <luiz> (...)
[19:17] <ioria> !paste | luiz
[19:17] <bhalash> sstory: Pick en-us when in doubt
[19:18] <aq2> luiz: maybe you should go to a python channel to ask about that?
[19:18] <luiz> Where? In python.org ?
[19:19] <aq2> #python is the offical one
[19:19] <ioria> luiz  #python
[19:19] <Jordan_U> rocfig__: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[19:19] <aq2> its pretty big like this channel
[19:19] <aq2> ##learnpython is smaller if you want that
[19:19] <intrigus> OerHeks thanks for helping :)
[19:19] <sstory> bhalash:  I did. It had already said it was us and qwerty. I tried standard. That didn't help.  now that I have installed console-common how do I run it again to choose something else?
[19:20] <bhalash> sstory: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[19:20] <luiz> Sorry, it's the first time I'm using this chat
[19:20] <ioria> luiz  oh, you mean you can't install Any package after installing pip ?
[19:21] <defcon6> How do I remove this annoying error message that pops up whenever I log in about a system error from gnome-keyring-daemon. I checked the logs and this the message in the logs: gnome-keyring-daemon[1506]: couldn't access control socket: /run/user/1000/keyring/control: No such file or directory
[19:21] <hanshuber> Hi! I have some weird black strokes on my laptop screen. It looks like something is broken. How do I find out if its a failure of the graphics card or the screen itself?
[19:23] <n1ghtmar3> ok
[19:23] <sstory> bhalash: That did open and give me an option of Dell Latitude Laptop. I chose that and English. However those keys still don't work.
[19:23] <bhalash> hanshuber: Kill the dekstop or reboot
[19:23] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: What does the screen look like in "recovery mode" from grub's boot menu ?
[19:24] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: I don't know - didn't test yet. But I was in BIOS before and the black strokes have been there too.
[19:25] <hanshuber> bhalash: Thanks for the tip - I restarted the laptop a few times already and the strokes are still there.
[19:25] <AndroUser> hallo
[19:26] <neo_> hi
[19:26] <bhalash> sstory: Try udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
[19:26] <sstory> bhalash: rebooting, just in case it might help
[19:26] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: Does not good for the home team . Hardware failure ? What does the display also look like booting a liveDVD ? // Is this a laptop machine ?
[19:27] <bhalash> hanshuber: Different OS? I mean, it's either a driver issue or the hardware has crapped out, and it's easy to check if it is a driver problem
[19:27] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Yes its a laptop
[19:28] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: bhalash: The strokes appear also in BIOS. So I don't think its a driver isse
[19:28] <hanshuber> issu
[19:28] <hanshuber> issue
[19:29] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: As the problem exists in the bios screen - before any operating system is loaded - indicates hardware issue or perhaps a bios issue .
[19:29] <sstory> bhalash: didn't work either.
[19:29] <marcel_> hey guys
[19:29] <sstory> bhalash: Was that supposed to return output? I am executing it via sudo. Was that correct?
[19:30] <Bashing-om> marcel_: What's up ?
[19:30] <bhalash> sstory: The command sholdn't return any output
[19:30] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Right now I think it's a display problem
[19:30] <bhalash> sstory: The command sholdn't return any output. You can verify it ran cleanly with echo $? after
[19:30] <sstory> bhalash: 0
[19:31] <bhalash> sstory: Then it ran cleanly.
[19:31] <bhalash> That should've reloaded the driver
[19:31] <bhalash> This sounds like a really frigging bizarre problem
[19:31] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: A thought, bios based machine ? Perhaps in bios allocate additional memory to the graphics adapator ?
[19:31] <sstory> bhalash: well I also rebooted. That should have reloaded anything, correct?
[19:31] <PHroGman>  "apt-get -q -y -f auto remove  "Can someone tell me what this command does?
[19:32] <PHroGman> not sure what q y and f are for
[19:32] <Myrtti> quiet, assume yes, force
[19:32] <bhalash> sstory: Some suggestions from the Ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041483
[19:32] <Myrtti> so it's uninstalling stuff, without telling you what it is, answering yes to all questions for you, and forcing if everything else fails
[19:32] <bhalash> sstory: There was also a suggestion to check the keyboard settings, if any, in your BIOS
[19:32] <Geo> Hello, I'm trying to create a reverse tunnel using "ssh -g -R <IP_ADDRESS>:5000:<IP_ADDRESS>:5000<EMAIL_ADDRESS>However, it is only binding to <IP_ADDRESS> on the remote host, as opposed to any other valid address I try. Any ideas on what I need to change?
[19:33] <sstory> bhalash: Thanks! I will check all of that out.
[19:33] <PHroGman> Is it safe for cleaning up your system?
[19:33] <bhalash> sstory: np, best of luck solving it!
[19:33] <bhalash> sstory: Could be your keyboard just randomly died
[19:34] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: OK I will try this. I am using the machine since 6 years, and suddenly today when I turned it own this strokes appear...
[19:34] <Myrtti> PHroGman: I wouldn't use it
[19:34] <PHroGman> Why?
[19:34] <Myrtti> PHroGman: apt-get auto-remove is safe, but I'd want to see what is happening, AND make the decisions as they come, if there's any
[19:35] <compdoc> yeah, I never use -y
[19:35] <PHroGman> Ok thanks
[19:36] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: A few days ago I experienced a prolonged power outage, once I booted back up ..  All manner of things had changed . A similar experience with you ?
[19:36] <YamakasY> compdoc always uses -n and never trie to intall anything
[19:36] <YamakasY> tries
[19:36] <compdoc> quiet, you
[19:36]  * YamakasY -v compdoc
[19:36] <PHroGman> How do you clean up your system?
[19:36] <YamakasY> PHroGman: rm -rf /*
[19:37] <Bashing-om> !danger
[19:37] <YamakasY> Bashing-om: that does clean up your system tho
[19:37] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Not sure - I don't think there was a power outage. I will check out the BIOS settings.
[19:37] <SorcerousFox> it does a good job at it too :P
[19:37] <PHroGman> Ithat wipes your system right?
[19:38] <__Mike__> hello all
[19:38] <herol3oy> hi, I'd like to ask a social question about linux! i just started to google how can i run a career with linux but it seems it's only SysAdmin out there as a occupation? is that all?
[19:38] <__Mike__> how can I do a universal search in ubuntu mate for a program I just installed via the terminal
[19:38] <PHroGman> seriously what command would you use on occasion to clean up your system
[19:38] <YamakasY> PHroGman: no need to
[19:38] <bekks> PHroGman: There is no such thing as a single command.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: As the problem exists at the bios screen level, does indicate hardware issue ( loose cable ??) or 'maybe" a setting in bios IRT graphics .
[19:38] <aaron> need help
[19:39] <YamakasY> bekks: hehe, some new Linux user that thinks he can super clean a clean system
[19:39] <__Mike__> I install gparted and it installed fine, but I can't figure out how to format a usb flash drive
[19:39] <YamakasY> !fail
[19:39] <bekks> YamakasY: You failed, epically, in suggesting nonsense as you did above.
[19:40] <Guest72636> my kubuntu hdmi sound is working with test etc but does not seem to work for anything else
[19:40] <KNUBBIG> I'm sorry I still don't get it - if I -A rules to the INPUT chain, and none of those rules matches an incoming packet, shouldn't it be accepted if the policy is set to ACCEPT?
[19:40] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Yeah I thought about a loose cable... I will dismantle the laptop and give it a try (it's a dell so this shouldn't be a problem=
[19:41] <cyclick> I set ubuntu to use Dolphin (file manager) for everything but the trash icon in the bottom left corner opens it as Trash:/// and it should be Trash:/ when using Dolphin otherwise I get an error... how can I change that?
[19:41] <KNUBBIG> oh wow
[19:41] <KNUBBIG> nvm
[19:41] <YamakasY> bekks: cleaning up a linux system is emptying it, there is no such thing of cleaning up such system, period
[19:41] <KNUBBIG> I'm an idiot
[19:41] <A1F4> how to make new external hard disk secure using file system or encryption or password protection under ubuntu ?
[19:42] <sstory> bhalash: keyboard didn't work for 'a' in the Asset tag of BIOS either.  External USB keyboard does. I assume that means onboard keyboard has died?
[19:42] <__Mike__> brb - have to go back into openSUSE to fix something..
[19:42] <cyclick> apt-get autoclean ; apt-get autoremove cleans it somewhat
[19:42] <A1F4> which one is best or other ways also possibles ?
[19:42] <A1F4> please help
[19:42] <HackerII> sstory:  amazon time, prolly about $15
[19:43] <sstory> HackerII: OK. Thanks!
[19:43] <HackerII> np
[19:43] <bekks> YamakasY: No one doubts that. I just critizied your behaviour, especially towards a newbie.
[19:48] <IceNine> question, how can i override the auto mount of a local ntfs drive so it mounts with 755 instead of just 700
[19:49] <EriC^^> IceNine: disks program
[19:50] <bhalash> IceNine: umask in fstab
[19:50] <Skyrider> if I set a directory to 777 so all users can read/write to it.. how would I make it so that every single directory that gets created inside that 777 directory also auto-gets 777 chmod rights?
[19:51] <EriC^^> Skyrider: what's the purpose of the directory?
[19:51] <Skyrider> Samba share.
[19:51] <cyclick> skyrider something like this: chmod g+rwxs dirname
[19:51] <IceNine> eric^^ - i don't see any permissions in the disks program
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Skyrider: ^ and what is the file system of the directory ?
[19:52] <EriC^^> IceNine: there's a settings icon that looks like a gear that has mount options
[19:52] <Skyrider> Bashing-om: come again?
[19:52] <IceNine> i'm there
[19:52] <EriC^^> select the partition and click on it
[19:52] <EriC^^> IceNine: ok, add the mount options to it
[19:52] <EriC^^> like a normal fstab options
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Skyrider: NTFS ? Does not support linux POSIX . To change access then one has to jump through some hoops in /tc/fstab .
[19:53] <IceNine> i'm super new to this, ;) to the GOOGLE
[19:53] <YamakasY> bekks: he actually knew what the command was, it's good :)
[19:54] <bekks> YamakasY: Not good, since others may not, and execute it.
[19:55] <Skyrider> that g +ewxs didn't work I'm afraid, even with -R
[19:55] <herol3oy_> hi, SysAdmin is that all as a career in linux society? (i couldn't find any other job or business, for example, i can run after learning linux!!!)
[19:56] <Skyrider> But when I use "sudo chmod -R 777 TV" it appears to work.
[19:56] <Skyrider> But, if the laptop user adds a new directory inside the samba share, it won't be 777
[19:56] <bekks> herol3oy_: Maybe your question is better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:56] <herol3oy_> bekks: ;)
[19:57] <EriC^^> Skyrider: you have to change the umask
[19:57] <EriC^^> Skyrider: set umask=000
[19:58] <EriC^^> IceNine: you need to set dmask=755 and fmask=755
[19:58] <EriC^^> umask is what controls newly created files
[19:59] <EriC^^> ( it's inversely set though, whatever you give it takes away from the permissions, like umask=007 will let created files have 770 as perms
[20:00] <Skyrider> Thanks, I shall try.
[20:01] <EriC^^> IceNine: sorry, dmask and fmask are also inversely set, so you need dmask=022 and fmask=022
[20:01] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: I got it down to this: no errors on update and this one on upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/14450628/
[20:02] <YamakasY> bekks: than they didn't read the manual at all
[20:02] <YamakasY> bekks: you never learned by trail and error ?
[20:02] <IceNine> tbh, i'm kind of lost here Eric^^ :|
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/14450628/ .
[20:03] <EriC^^> IceNine: what are the current options in disks?
[20:03] <bekks> YamakasY: You are telling others dangerous commands. So there is no point in discussing this any further. Please just stop behaving like that.
[20:04] <YamakasY> bekks: it's not dangerous! walking over a street without looking left/right first is dangerous
[20:05] <YamakasY> bekks: you started the discussion actually because you don't know the difference about dangerous and wrong ;)
[20:05] <YamakasY> *between
[20:05] <IceNine> http://imgur.com/sWlFxub
[20:05] <IceNine> Eric^^
[20:06] <EriC^^> IceNine: ok, add after x-gvfs-show, ,dmask=022,fmask=022,umask=022
[20:06] <EriC^^> all files and dirs and newly created files will be 755
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: As we have " Stale file handle " let's try and rebuild the package list : ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt-get update ' . Keeping in mind that a full upgrade ( sudo apt full-upgrade ) might also address this issue .
[20:07] <EriC^^> IceNine: you can also set the owner and group the files will be mounted as using uid=<uid> and gid=<gid>
[20:07] <bekks> YamakasY: You started it with your behaviour. To shorten this up: ignore set.
[20:07] <EriC^^> like uid=1000,gid=1000
[20:07] <YamakasY> haha, he ignores me LOL, won't help anyone else as he tries to state :P
[20:08] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: Should I try a full upgrade first or it's not gonna fly without a rebuild you think?
[20:08] <IceNine> eric^^, thank you
[20:09] <EriC^^> IceNine: no problem
[20:09] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Well, I am of the oponion that the full upgrade should be applied in any case .. that will adress the "packages have been kept back" and install the latest kernel .
[20:10] <Jordan_U> YamakasY: Telling a user to run such a command is unacceptable. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[20:11] <Vey> hi guys!
[20:11] <amr> hmm, my cpu scaling doesnt change when i unplug/plug in my laptop's ac
[20:11] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: the first rm command came back as can not remove the google plugin
[20:11] <amr> laptop-mode-tools seems to need restarting each time
[20:12] <Vey> I need some help here...
[20:12] <EriC^^> with what Vey ?
[20:12] <Vey> I have created a bootable usb stick but when I tried to boot... I got this "failed to load ldlinux.c32" thingy
[20:13] <Vey> its driving crazy lol
[20:13] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14450770/
[20:13] <bekks> Vey: How did you create the usb stick?
[20:13] <Vey> using rufus
[20:13] <EriC^^> try dd
[20:13] <Vey> and the ubuntu iso
[20:13] <Vey> ohhh
[20:13] <Vey> dd...
[20:13] <Vey> aight i give it another try
[20:13] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[20:14] <EriC^^> give it the usb device not the partition ( /dev/sdX not /dev/sdxY )
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Ouch .. As advised earlier .. I can not come up with a reliable means to cope with the google's talkplugin . I can not determine the best means to remove/re-install it .
[20:14] <EriC^^> Vey: might as well checksum the iso if you haven't too
[20:14] <EriC^^> md5sum /path/to/iso
[20:15] <EriC^^> !hashes | Vey and check here to see if it's equal
[20:16] <Vey> ahhh... can you guys tell me something in english? XD
[20:16] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: OK - I'll get back to it tomorrow - thanks for your time anyway
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Let's presume that there is a problem with google's server . uncheck that source in software center .. and try to remove/rebuild the list files .
[20:17] <Vey> im creating the bootable usb stick again with dd mode this time...
[20:17] <EriC^^> Vey: type md5sum /path/to/iso
[20:17] <EriC^^> dd mode?
[20:17] <Vey> where do i type the command?
[20:18] <bekks> Vey: In a terminal.
[20:18] <EriC^^> are you in ubuntu?
[20:18] <Vey> yea after i press the create button... rufus asked for iso mode or dd mode
[20:18] <Vey> no im in window and trying to create a bootable ubuntu usb stick
[20:18] <Vey> sorry i wasnt clear earlier
[20:19] <EriC^^> oh ok
[20:19] <EriC^^> !checksum | Vey follow the last link to checksum the iso
[20:19] <ioria> Vey why don't you use dd directly from terminal ?
[20:20] <EriC^^> Vey: if it checks out ok, then try the dd mode, if that doesn't work try another usb, lots of times people have reported that error and it was a bad usb
[20:20] <amr> if i watch `cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode` wen unplugging from AC, it never gets enabled
[20:20] <amr> :|
[20:20] <IceNine> super thanks Eric^^, even managed to change the mount name to the label instead of UUID
[20:20] <EriC^^> IceNine: cool, no problem :)
[20:21] <Vey> this is the 2nd usb i tried. the first one just shoots me with "boot failed" 2 words and nothing else
[20:21] <Vey> the 2nd usb gave me ldlinux.c32 thing
[20:22] <Vey> if i use dd mode to create the stick and after its complete... windows unable to recognize the file format and asked to format? is that normal?
[20:22] <ioria> Vey why don't you use dd directly from terminal ?
[20:22] <EriC^^> yeah, that could happen
[20:22] <EriC^^> ioria: he's on windows
[20:23] <Vey> ioria im on windows
[20:23] <EriC^^> apparently rufus has a "dd mode"
[20:23] <ioria> EriC^^, sorry all
[20:23] <EriC^^> no worries
[20:23] <ioria> EriC^^, he could use msys :þ
[20:23] <Vey> msys?
[20:23] <ioria> Vey let it go
[20:24] <Vey> frozen
[20:25] <OerHeks> can rufus sync too ?
[20:26] <ioria> Vey  if you install MinGw on windows you'll have also msys ... it's something like cygwin ... but too much trouble for a usb ... maybe linuxpendrive is better
[20:28] <Vey> ioria: thanks but im too noob to understand what you talking about lol...im new to ubuntu and now Im figuring out how do i get it to boot from a usb stick
[20:28] <Vey> i need ubuntu to configure hdd for xbox one
[20:28] <andree> ciao
[20:28] <ioria> Vey   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[20:28] <andree> !list
[20:29] <allizom> !it | andree
[20:29] <Vey> ioria i follow that guide and i got some problems so i came here for help and someone suggest i try rufus
[20:29] <ioria> Vey   ho, really ?
[20:30] <Vey> yea i was here since 2 days ago... lol
[20:30] <ioria> Vey weird
[20:30] <OerHeks> most of the time it is your antivirus in windows that prevents writing a bootsector :-D
[20:30] <EriC^^> rufus is inspired by ruffies, you try to make an iso with it until you fall asleep and pass out
[20:30] <Vey> ok im done creating in dd mode... now i gonna give it a shot again...
[20:30] <EriC^^> i think
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !ppa > BluesKaj
[20:31] <Vey> see you guys later...
[20:31] <EriC^^> haha xD
[20:33] <asdzxc> hello
[20:34] <Vey> arrgghhhhhhhhh
[20:34] <Vey> failed
[20:34] <Vey> this time "ldlinux.c32 is missing or corrupted"
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> !find ldlinux
[20:35] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso?
[20:35] <Vey> doing it now
[20:36] <SorcerousFox> Besides checksumming the iso I would also like to ask what brand flash drive you're using?
[20:36] <Abe_> where can I fin the right driver for an HP ENVY 4524, the driver in the repo works but the scanner doesn't
[20:36] <SorcerousFox> I had issues recently with sandisk ones getting ubuntu to install
[20:36] <Vey> kingmax
[20:36] <nudoge> MonkeyDust: the chattr'd file
[20:36] <Vey> sandisks are terrible
[20:44] <amr> im sort of struggling w/ how pm-utils and laptop-mode-tools interact
[20:45] <procop> alright everybody freeze
[20:45] <EriC^^> is this a stick up?
[20:46] <procop> just an interogation
[20:46] <procop> is there a difference in easy and/or stability of upgrading from a random non-LTS version to the next LTS version and from the last LTS version to the next LTS version?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> procop  lts is the reason ... longer support
[20:46] <procop> in ease*
[20:46] <OerHeks> LTS > LTS is supported, not sure what version you want to upgrade to LTS
[20:47] <procop> MonkeyDust: yeah sure, but still is there a difference in upgrading processes
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> procop  guess not, as fresh instakllation is preferred
[20:47] <Myrtti> procop: if you would've asked last March, this question would've been given a different answer
[20:47] <procop> OerHeks: like for example is it as easy to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 LTS as it is from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS
[20:47] <OerHeks> sure
[20:47] <procop> Myrtti: ok, interesting, why_
[20:48] <procop> OerHeks: are you so sure?
[20:48] <Myrtti> procop: but right now, as it stands, the upgrade to the next LTS is the valid and direct upgrade route from the current supported non-LTS
[20:48] <compdoc> cantr wait for 16.04 :)
[20:48] <procop> MonkeyDust seems to disagree
[20:48] <OerHeks> procop, just set to the newest LTS version in updates section
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> procop  opinions can differ
[20:48] <procop> Myrtti: ah i see, perfect!
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> compdoc: you can test alpha1 right now, see #ubuntu+1
[20:49] <procop> well sounds good guys
[20:50] <procop> so i can safely install the latest 15.10 now and i wont have any more trouble updating to 16.04 LTS than if i installed the old 14.04
[20:51] <amr> i think the default laptop_mode script in pm-utils from ubuntu is... crap
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> procop: upgrades can always be tricky, never say never..
[20:51] <procop> amr: watch your language there sport!
[20:51] <procop> lotuspsychje: but is there a difference?
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> procop: backups are very recommended
[20:51] <procop> yeah
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> procop  why are you asking, what are you struggling with
[20:51] <chanty-wrassler> Anybody tried installing Skype recently? I did and I got the spanish version :-(
[20:52] <procop> i mean it's possible that the ubuntu foudnation defines a supported and tested upgrade process only from LTS to LTS
[20:52] <procop> and not from any random non-LTS to LTS
[20:52] <procop> that's why i asked
[20:52] <procop> MonkeyDust: i am deciding which version to install now
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> chanty-wrassler  activate partner repo, then: sudo apt update; sudo apt install skype
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> procop: ask yourself, what you really want? LTS or non-LTS?
[20:52] <procop> i wouls rather go with the lower risk route
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> 14.04 here
[20:53] <procop> lotuspsychje: i want 16.04 eventually
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> procop: LTS to LTS= stable
[20:53] <procop> lotuspsychje: but in the meantime i want the newer version if and only if it doesnt come at a greater upgrading risk
[20:53] <procop> lotuspsychje: are you implying non-LTS to LTS = possibly not so stable?
[20:54] <chanty-wrassler> MonkeyDust:   thats what I did ...   followed http://tipsonubuntu.com/2015/03/24/install-skype-4-3-in-ubuntu-15-04/
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> procop: things can go wrong sometimes, but that doesnt mean it has to be that case
[20:54] <procop> i'm just interested in knowing whether there is a more tested upgrade path or anything like that
[20:54] <procop> lotuspsychje: yeah thats an obvious truism that applies to like everything in this universe
[20:54] <procop> i'm just interested in knowing whether there is a more tested upgrade path or anything like that though
[20:54] <chanty-wrassler> can specify a language with apt-get install?
[20:55] <EriC^^> procop: why don't you consider fresh installing when 16.04 comes out?
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> procop: listen mate, if you want to be 100% safe, go for a nice clean install
[20:55] <EriC^^> i know i'll be fresh installing 16.04 when it does, using 14.04 now
[20:55] <procop> EriC^^: because it would mean i have to setup everything again? takes time i want to avoid
[20:55] <OerHeks> procop, those upgrade paths are tested enough
[20:55] <procop> so you guys are saying there is no official upgrade path actually_
[20:55] <procop> ?
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> procop: aptoncd to the rescue
[20:55] <OerHeks> procop, stop trolling, we told you there is
[20:55] <procop> OerHeks: from any version to LTS or only from LTS?
[20:56] <OerHeks> read back plese
[20:56] <procop> OerHeks: no it's definitely not trolling.... there are differeing opinions, not just yours
[20:56] <procop> OerHeks: sorry for not just taking what YOU told me
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | procop
[20:57] <OerHeks> read the wiki then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:57] <procop> so basically you just dont know
[20:57] <procop> fair enough
[20:57] <OerHeks> ty MonkeyDust
[20:57] <procop> no risk no fun
[20:57] <procop> still I tried
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> procop: whats you end goal with asking this all? to have 100% control nothing goes wrong?
[20:58] <EriC^^> procop: if you look into why you can jump from one lts straight to the next using the upgrade manager it might show you insight into which is better
[20:58] <EriC^^> ( report back )
[20:58] <procop> lotuspsychje: as i told you SERVERAL TIMES: to minimize upgrade fuckup risk
[20:58] <procop> ok thanks EriC^^
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> i'm happy with 14.04
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> we plan having children in the near future
[21:00] <Vey> where do i find the hashes for this file ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso?
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> procop: every system is different, with ltos of different packages, some added ppa's and other mnual stuff...things can go wrong sometimes, you cant minimize a brake risk
[21:00] <EriC^^> Vey: that's eol bro
[21:00] <EriC^^> Vey: download 14.04 or 15.10
[21:00] <Vey> eol?
[21:00] <Vey> argghhhhh
[21:00] <EriC^^> yes, it's a dead release
[21:01] <Vey> =.="
[21:02] <geirha> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/utopic/
[21:02] <EriC^^> ^ that's just for kicks though, don't install it even if it checks out
[21:02] <geirha> ^ What he said
[21:03] <Vey> redownloading....
[21:03] <amr> so reinstalling laptop mode tools didnt work
[21:05] <Vey> anyone owns xbox one here?
[21:06] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Vey
[21:07] <Vey> sorry if its abit off topic... but to fix and replace a new hdd for xbox one, the partitions needs ubuntu to create it properly
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> Vey: maybe the ##xbox channel knows more of the partitioning of it?
[21:10] <OerHeks> Vey, remove all partitions and mbr, and plug it in, xbox formats in its own way
[21:13] <Abe_> got it running
[21:15] <lou__> Hello, i use wine to emule "heidiSql" on my unbutu but it consume loooot of CPU ( i5-4210h 2.9gzh / 3.5 ) it takes 94% of they four core ... do you have a soluce ?
[21:16] <EriC^^> !info heidisql
[21:16] <lou__> its an windows app
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> lou__: maybe find an ubuntu alternative for that?
[21:16] <EriC^^> is there a linux equivalent?
[21:16] <Aion_NL> Hello , good evening everybody. i have a question about one of my ubuntu computers and i was wondering if someone could help me along . ill write my question in the next line.
[21:17] <lou__> i have search for, but they are more complicated than heidisql
[21:18] <Aion_NL> I am running ubuntu server 15.10 on a N3700-matx, this board only had 2 sata ports so i bought a delock pci-e sata card (2 ports) , i plugged in my new hard drives , however it looks like the card is not being detected. I tried looking with lspci -v / lsusb -v etc but i cannot see it , am i doing something wrong ? could someone point me in the right direction. Thank you :)
[21:18] <lou__> linux have mysql workbench, but you are obliged to write sql script for show a table or modify, can't modify by ui
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> Aion_NL: non-lts is not very recommended to use on a server tried LTS before?
[21:20] <amr> turns out ubuntu's laptop-mode-tools is crippled
[21:20] <amr> i installed debian sid's version, and it works perfect
[21:20] <amr> i can now unplug my ac and the correct action is taken
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> nice workaround
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> lou__: doublecheck all these perhaps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459074/how-to-install-heidisql-on-ubuntu
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> lou__: or play around with this? http://dbeaver.jkiss.org/
[21:32] <lou__> i have install wine for heidiSql, but it use 94% of my cpu ....
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> lou__: yes, you already said that
[21:33] <EriC^^> lou__: if you're absolutely set on using heidisql you could limit the cpu time it gets with cpulimit, if another workaround or fix isn't available
[21:33] <lou__> thank you for your response, i'm watching for dbeaver ! :)
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> lou__: SQuirrel looks also promising
[21:35] <lou__> ok, i'm going to looking for limite cpu or use dbeaver so, thank you for these possibilities // I have already test SquirrelSQl, but don't want to launch mysql session :/
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> lou__: found 2 more: razorsql and DbVisualizer for linux
[21:44] <lou__> Dbeaver looks good for why i want, i think !
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> !yay | lou__
[21:45] <lou__> i will see these two more, maybe they are better ! ( sorry for my english )
[21:47] <IceNine> am i being dense, the ssh command is "ssh user@host port" no?
[21:47] <bekks> IceNine: No.
[21:47] <bekks> IceNine: ssh -p port user@host or ssh -p port -l user host
[21:48] <IceNine> thanks
[21:51] <mikubuntu> this page won't let me escape, has audio to go along with it warning me to call the microsoft technicians http://ibin.co/2SuGjU9WckuA
[21:52] <bekks> mikubuntu: And whats the ubuntu relevance at that point?
[21:53] <lou__> test : ctrl+w or open process of chrome
[21:55] <nchambers> can someone help me with this? https://bpaste.net/show/5109ea6b81e4 I get it when trying to erase the flashdrive using usb-creator-gtk
[21:55] <lou__> lotuspsychje, thank you for dbeaver, this is great and have a dark theme so i can watch it all the night ! :D
[21:55] <mikubuntu> bekks -- i've never in my life had this problem on ubuntu (or any linux) :: heres the dialog box: http://ibin.co/2SuHlnnktDfO i had to shut the computer down and switch from chrome to chromium to get away from it. running lubuntu 14.04.
[21:55] <lotuspsychje> lou__: welcome
[21:56] <lotuspsychje> nchambers: wich ubuntu version and wich iso are you trying?
[21:56] <nchambers> oh man I asked in the wrong os channel. my bad
[22:01] <lou__> i have a new stupid question ... in ubuntu mate version (15) we have no logithèque to uninstall package, so how we can do that ?
[22:02] <ikonia> lou__: the package manager has install/uninstall options
[22:02] <ikonia> I don't know what a logitheque is
[22:03] <lou__> what is its name ? / logithèque in french, i dont' know is name in english
[22:03] <ikonia> software center ?
[22:03] <lou__> yes !
[22:03] <bekks> lou__: Terminal, sudo apt-get :)
[22:03] <lotuspsychje> MikeBones: the page mentions spyware for windows..and your on lubuntu
[22:03] <lou__> i'm not sure to doing this right with command line ..
[22:05] <lou__> synaptic have a UI for uninstall package ?
[22:06] <bekks> lou__: sudo apt-get remove :)
[22:07] <lou__> oki oki, i will try like this, thanks :)
[22:11] <donald1> test
[22:12] <Gemm> hi
[22:13] <DrGreenthumb> Just bought a new hp envy 4502: Can anyone help me to install it with ubuntu? I have everything plugged in. Don't know where to go from here.  I think I installed the printer, but there was no searching for drivers.
[22:13] <Jordan_U> DrGreenthumb: How did you try to add the printer, and what happens when you try to print?
[22:14] <mikubuntu> i've never in my life had this problem on ubuntu (or any linux) :: heres the dialog box: http://ibin.co/2SuHlnnktDfO i had to shut the computer down and switch from chrome to chromium to get away from it. running lubuntu 14.04.
[22:14] <DrGreenthumb> Jordan_U: I go to system settings -> printers -> add
[22:15] <mikubuntu> this page won't let me escape, has audio to go along with it warning me to call the microsoft technicians http://ibin.co/2SuGjU9WckuA
[22:16] <Jordan_U> DrGreenthumb: I asked two questions; You only answered one of them.
[22:17] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: its a social engineering spyware page for windows..why do you even visit that url?
[22:18] <DrGreenthumb> Jordan_U: When I try to print, there is nothing happening.  That is why I assume I didn't set it up correctly.
[22:20] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: did you install hplip tools?
[22:23] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: I just got it to print.  Unfortunately, I made so many names for the printer and now I know which one to pick. My problem now is that I cannot scan.  Is this scanner even compatible with ubuntu?
[22:24] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: did you install hplip tools?
[22:24] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: no, how do I get that?
[22:25] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip | DrGreenthumb
[22:26] <DrGreenthumb> ubottu: I don't know which ubuntu version I have
[22:27] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: sudo apt-get install hplip
[22:27] <DrGreenthumb> thanks
[22:27] <DrGreenthumb> got it, now what?
[22:28] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: now open that hplip tools icon from dash, you can scan from there
[22:28] <DrGreenthumb> What's dash?
[22:28] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: start button left upper corner
[22:29] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip-gui | DrGreenthumb
[22:30] <DrGreenthumb> on the desktop?
[22:30] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: install that hplip-gui also please
[22:31] <DrGreenthumb> I see what 'dash' is.  I didn't know it had a name.
[22:31] <DrGreenthumb> I will get the gui as well
[22:32] <DrGreenthumb> I got the scan. the quality is atrocious.
[22:36] <DrGreenthumb> Is there something I did wrong for the scan quality to be so bad? Was is the way that I scanned the original page that it asked me to scan for alignment?
[22:36] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: i dont think its ubuntu related...the scanner can only scan right
[22:37] <DrGreenthumb> it's an all-in-one
[22:38] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: define 'bad' quality
[22:40] <tr0p1> hi, is there some apparmor knowledgeable person here?^^
[22:41] <tr0p1> i thought apparmor would be silent (in terms of not spamming my dmesg) if i use deny lines in my profiles...
[22:41] <DrGreenthumb> What I scan looks drastically different from the actual original page.
[22:42] <tr0p1> e.g. "deny /*^{home,home_unenc,usr,bin,lib,lib32,lib64,dev,proc,etc,tmp,sbin,var,run,sys,..,.}/ rw,"   I thought that would block all directories except the mentioned ones....   But somehow apparmor continues complaining :(
[22:43] <DrGreenthumb> Scanning a picture with solid color shows a lot of very small lines interrupting the solid color
[22:44] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: this printer/scanner is new or old?
[22:44] <mordor_> Hi happy new year
[22:44] <DrGreenthumb> Just bought 1 hour ago from MicroCenter
[22:45] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: what happens if you copy a document from the scanner to printer?
[22:45] <mordor_> I have a question, is it possible to use ubuntu server without video card? I used one to install ubuntu server, but when I removed my video card, the server don't work (can't connect with ssh)
[22:45] <GyrosGeier2> Hi
[22:46] <DrGreenthumb> hold on. I'll do it now
[22:46] <GyrosGeier2> I have a crash in a GTK app, probably because of Murrine
[22:46] <GyrosGeier2> is there an easy way to disable that for a specific app?
[22:47] <lotuspsychje> mordor_: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can assist you better?
[22:48] <mordor_> lotuspsychje: you right, didn't know there is a separate channel for the server version, thanks
[22:48] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: Documents look fine, just pictures look horrible.
[22:49] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: did you allign the printer correctly?
[22:52] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: that is what I believe to be the problem.
[22:52] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: I thought it was done correctly, but if that's the case, how would I redo it?
[22:52] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: always allign the printer before you use the first time
[22:53] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: That's what I did first. But now I would like to give it a second try.  Do I delete the printer from my computer and then do it all over again?
[22:54] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: no, just do the allugh process
[22:54] <lotuspsychje> allign
[22:54] <kvj> Which tool i should use to check if there is any problem in grub ?
[22:54] <bekks> kvj: Do you see any problems with grub? :)
[22:55] <kvj> Yes sometimes my OS dont starts
[22:56] <kvj> I get error - "Non system disk or disk-error , replace and strike any key when ready
[22:56] <bekks> kvj: Then your computer doesnt detect the disk, thats even before grub is started.
[22:56] <kvj> How can i resolve that ?
[22:57] <kvj> Is there any way to check my disk ?
[22:57] <bekks> kvj: Check the cabling before.
[22:58] <ChrissMejia> Hi I write this article about how to switch command and ctrl keys for Ubuntu and I will love some feedback https://chrissmejia.com/howto/swaps-the-ctrl-and-cmd-keys-in-ubuntu/
[22:58] <rob__> +kvj run Linux system rescue disk and check your drive
[22:59] <kvj> Rescue disk ?
[22:59] <rob__> +kvj https://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Download
[22:59] <kvj> Rob and bekk Where will i get this disk
[23:00] <rob__> +kvj when you boot up do you get the grub menu at all ? or dose it drop into busy box
[23:01] <kvj> Busy box
[23:01] <kvj> No menu
[23:02] <rob__> +kvj what version of ubuntu have you installed
[23:03] <kvj> 14
[23:03] <bekks> kvj: Which 14?
[23:04] <kvj> Ubuntu 14.03.3 LTS
[23:05] <rob__> +kvj boot off usb drive with a live version of ubuntu or system rescue . then run fsck.fiesystem your using
[23:06] <kvj> Run fsck ?
[23:07] <rob__> +kvj yes it will check the state of your filesystem for errors
[23:07] <kvj> How to run it ?
[23:08] <rob__> fsck.ext2 /dev/sda1
[23:08] <daftykins> boot the live session first, that'll keep you busy for a few minutes.
[23:08] <bekks> rob__: ouch
[23:08] <rob__> +bekks Ouch ??
[23:08] <kvj> ?
[23:08] <bekks> kvj: fsck /dev/sdXY where X is the device and Y the partition with the filesystem.
[23:09] <bekks> rob__: fsck.ext2 ? :P
[23:09] <bekks> kvj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[23:09] <daftykins> yeah ext2 is crazy talk.
[23:11] <rob__> +bekks ext2 was an example filesystem , given  corrected duley noted -t is the swithc to use
[23:11] <bekks> rob__: no switch needed when using fsck :)
[23:13] <asus_ux501> Trying to install Ubuntu on ASUS ZenBook Pro UX501VW-DS71T fails so far. I've used bootable usb, created in windows 10 (laptops original OS)
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  After a minute being on Ubuntu logo, it stops at following prompt:
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  BusyBox v1.21.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.21.0-1ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  Ether 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:13] <rob__> +kvj , any way you need to boot from a live USB distro first
[23:15] <kvj> Thanks
[23:15] <kvj> :)
[23:15] <daftykins> asus_ux501: did you has the download to confirm it was ok? that more than likely is a bad flash drive prepare
[23:15] <daftykins> sorry *hash
[23:15] <rob__> +kvj once you done that get back to us
[23:16] <GyrosGeier2> is there an easy way to disable Murrine?
[23:16] <GyrosGeier2> https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/3c74094e-b722-11e5-a3c1-fa163e525ba7
[23:16] <cyclick> I set Ubuntu to use Dolphin (file manager) for everything and it works mostly fine but the trash icon in the bottom left corner opens as Trash:/// and it should be Trash:/ when using Dolphin otherwise I get an error... how can I change what that icons launches?
[23:17] <kvj> rob__: i have only one partition on my system
[23:17] <asus_ux501> It's a new laptop, on my current laptop (dell inspiron) I did the same process 3 years ago, it worked perfectly well and I have been using ubuntu since.
[23:17] <kvj> What should be its name ? Sorry i dont know about it
[23:17] <daftykins> asus_ux501: times change.
[23:17] <asus_ux501> yes, I have hashed the ubuntu image. I have tried different distros with different flash drives
[23:18] <rob__> +kvj that one partition should show up as /dev/sda1
[23:18] <daftykins> asus_ux501: did any prep work fine on your other system?
[23:18] <rob__> +kvj to confirm that run sudo fdisk -l
[23:19] <kvj> rob__: I should run fsck /dev/sdXsda1?
[23:19] <mistralol> does anyone here know much about bugs.lunchpad?
[23:19] <asus_ux501> none of distros works. I have this http://hastebin.com/raw/oyunekuxoy you can check
[23:20] <asus_ux501> it's from centos crash report before installation, It went further than ubuntu in install process, but eventually failed.
[23:20] <mistralol> with bugs.lunchpad is it posisble to change a bug from new -> closed?
[23:20] <OerHeks> asus_ux501, there are a lot of known issues with UEFI and asus zen, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1261465
[23:20] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook
[23:20] <rob__> +kvj fsck /dev/sda1
[23:20] <daftykins> asus_ux501: what's all that?
[23:21] <daftykins> asus_ux501: ah well i'm not gonna look at CentOS pastes :)
[23:21] <kvj> rob__ i wont add my device name in it ?
[23:21] <daftykins> asus_ux501: is there a BIOS update for the system available?
[23:22] <rob__> +kvj what is the result of sudo fdisk -l
[23:22] <kvj> I run fsck /dev/sda1
[23:23] <kvj> I got warning : the file system is mounted . If you continue you * will * cause **** severe****  filesystem damage
[23:23] <bekks> kvj: SO boot a live medium.
[23:23] <asus_ux501> daftykins I'll check BIOS and report back
[23:23] <rob__> +kvj correct , have booted from a usb live
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> kvj  on't do fsck on a running system
[23:24] <rob__> +kvj run sudo umount /dev/sda1
[23:24] <bekks> rob__: you cant umount a running system.
[23:24] <robotdevil1> ikonia: worked great and quick but I did make the mistake of using the entire disk instead of just a partition
[23:24] <cookta2012> ok, my ssh is working, my sftp is not, and i see nothing in the auth logs to tell me why, when my sftp client says "Authtenticating with public key from agent" it just hangs. Ideas?
[23:24] <rob__> +bekks no you cant , but I have said boot from a usb key
[23:25] <ikonia> robotdevil1: great
[23:25] <bekks> rob__: In that case, you dont need to umount sda1 ;)
[23:25] <robotdevil1> ikonia: sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdd1 bs=512 conv=noerror,sync
[23:25] <ikonia> that just makes an image
[23:25] <ikonia> I know how to use dd thanks
[23:25] <rob__> +bekks again your correct , but i currently I dont know what he has mounted
[23:26] <bekks> rob__: He isnt even using a live medium currently
[23:26] <rob__> +bekks I did as for out put of sudo fdisk -l
[23:26] <robotdevil1> fdisk first to check sector size
[23:27] <robotdevil1> Im posting for the good of the channel maybe
[23:27] <rob__> +kvj you must boot from a live cd or usb key please
[23:27] <kvj> Im not using live medium currently
[23:27] <kvj> Im running system on my hdd right now
[23:27] <robotdevil1> ikonia: thanks too though :)
[23:27] <bekks> kvj: Boot a live medium.
[23:27] <OerHeks> kvj, so don't waste your time then
[23:27] <ikonia> robotdevil1: others can't use that command
[23:27] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it woulc be specific to your system
[23:28] <kvj> OerHeks i get problem when i start my system
[23:28] <robotdevil1> right just an example
[23:28] <bekks> kvj: So boot a live medium.
[23:28] <kvj> Im not wasting anyones time
[23:28] <bekks> kvj: Err, negative. :)
[23:28] <kvj> Sorry
[23:29] <bekks> kvj: You have been told to boot a live medium long ago, so do it.
[23:29] <rob__> +bekks where from and what your background ??
[23:30] <asus_ux501> one question, in regards to UEFI and Asus not booting, would it help if I setup a PXE and boot via network?
[23:30] <daftykins> rob__: support only in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:30] <daftykins> asus_ux501: not a chance. did you try booting with any ACPI OSI kernel boot parameters? or... "nomodeset" ?
[23:31] <rob__> +daftykins cheers  for the nudge
[23:31] <asus_ux501> what are these? could you explain / provide link
[23:31] <Jordan_U> asus_ux501: Yes, but probably not for the reason you expect :)
[23:31] <daftykins> !nomodeset | asus_ux501
[23:32] <Bashing-om> kvj: We relaize that you are concerned, worried and aggravated -> not thinking too clearly ; bekks has been doing this a long time and has loads of experience. Settle down and follow his instruction .
[23:32] <daftykins> asus_ux501: so what is the current BIOS? asus US tells me the zenbook pro UX501 is now on v211
[23:32] <rob__> +kvj you got a live dsito running yet
[23:32] <g201k2> hi i have multiple ethernet cards. how could I determine which ethernet port corresponds to eth0?
[23:32] <asus_ux501> BIOS version is 204
[23:33] <asus_ux501> I'll go and update BIOS and retry. I'll look into nomodeset as well
[23:33] <bekks> g201k2: plug in a cable, see dmesg output.
[23:33] <daftykins> asus_ux501: bear in mind i'll only accept attempts with 15.10 64-bit media on the flash drive right now
[23:34] <daftykins> no other distros will be entertained
[23:34] <Jordan_U> asus_ux501: The error you're getting about not being able to find the live media generally means that, for whatever reason, the initramfs doesn't contain the modules needed to access your USB drive. If you boot from the Ubuntu minimal/netboot installer (note you don't actually actually need to netboot) then the installer doesn't need to access the USB drive, all needed files are stored in the initramfs or
[23:34] <Jordan_U>  downloaded from the internet.
[23:34] <asus_ux501> daftykins you got it.
[23:34] <daftykins> Jordan_U: won't that fail pretty quick anyway due to mini not supported EFI install?
[23:35] <daftykins> *supporting, ugh
[23:35] <daftykins> like, i don't think setting up PXE boot is a worthy use of time
[23:35] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I wasn't aware that the minimal installer didn't support UEFI. Is it debian-installer that doesn't support UEFI or the boot media not having a UEFI bootloader?
[23:36] <daftykins> Jordan_U: no idea on the details i'm afraid, only know that much
[23:36] <daftykins> i think server may be viable, then just installing a DE metapackage
[23:37] <daftykins> having looked up the rest of the specs of this asus though, there are plenty more pitfalls that might make Linux impossible on this machine right now
[23:37] <daftykins> for those playing along at home - https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ZenBook_Pro_UX501/specifications/
[23:37] <anonymo> sexo
[23:38] <rob__> +daftyins UX501 with Linux support thunderbolt?
[23:39] <daftykins> rob__: no need for a + prior to nicks - also i don't understand the question
[23:39] <rob__> daftykins I mean dose ubuntu 15 support thunderbolt ports ?
[23:40] <daftykins> rob__: no idea, try #linux as it'd be the kernel level not distro level really to find out on that one
[23:40] <g201k2> bekks, thanks much . dmesg | grep -i eth seemed to do the trick
[23:40] <bekks> g201k2: you're welcome :)
[23:41] <cookta2012> what was the latest kernel release for wiley werewolf? i think it borked my sftp
[23:41] <bekks> !wiley
[23:41] <bekks> :)
[23:41] <daftykins> !info linux-generic
[23:41] <daftykins> 4.2.0-23 by the looks, cookta2012
[23:42] <cookta2012> thanks
[23:42] <cookta2012> my ssh is working, my sftp is not, and i see nothing in the auth logs to tell me why, when my sftp client says "Authtenticating with public key from agent" it just hangs. Ideas?
[23:43] <daftykins> what is this wily install running on?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> asus_ux501: A thoight. is this a "nvme" issue where these latest drivers must be obtained ? (SSDs)
[23:43] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i totally expect it to become that eventually :)
[23:44] <cookta2012> daftykins, vmware
[23:44] <daftykins> server or desktop VM?
[23:44] <cookta2012> daftykins, server
[23:44] <daftykins> non-LTS server, interesting choice
[23:45] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Presently, a heads up for the possibility .
[23:45] <asus_ux501> Bashing-om I know graphical drive would be nouveau, but I have no idea about SSD
[23:45] <daftykins> cookta2012: confirm by booting the older to see if your hunch is correct, but i'd think that unrelated
[23:45] <cookta2012> daftykins, when the person that installed it they installed a non-lts version
[23:45] <cookta2012> ok
[23:45] <daftykins> asus_ux501: nouveau most likely won't like that machine so you must boot with 'nomodeset' i think
[23:45] <cookta2012> one min
[23:45] <asus_ux501> daftykins the latest BIOS according to Asus.com is 204 which is currently on the laptop. https://www.asus.com/us/support/Download/3/770/0/2/cp7UN9BtMU7UNPWc/45/
[23:46]  * cookta2012 loads vmware vsphere
[23:46] <daftykins> asus_ux501: ah ok, did i have the slightly wrong model o0
[23:46] <codelion> Hello, I just bought a new SSD, booted to a USB drive, copied all the files off my old ubuntu install onto the new ssd, chroot'd to it, and did update-grub on it, but it won't boot
[23:46] <asus_ux501> I'm downloading the 15.10 you suggested, and would do nomodeset immediately
[23:46] <codelion> Any ideas what I could do to fix it?
[23:46] <cookta2012> daftykins, what do you think it could be?
[23:47] <daftykins> codelion: when you say copy files, what did you really do? the new SSD already had an install and you just copied /home ?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> codelion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[23:47] <codelion> daftykins: I created an ext4 partition and copied over everything from / down
[23:48] <asus_ux501> I was very excited about the laptop until it didn't boot any linux. I only use Linux. So, if I can't install ubuntu on it, I have to return the laptop and pay hunderds of $ in restocking.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> codelion: You'll also need to, at least, update your /etc/fstab.
[23:48] <Bashing-om> asus_ux501: To check for this possibility, what returns ' ls -al /dev/nvme* ; modinfo | grep nvme ' ?
[23:48] <codelion> oh of course :/
[23:49] <codelion> the SSD is 30gb smaller, otherwise I think clonezilla would be sufficient
[23:51] <daftykins> you could've resized, cloned, grown :)
[23:52] <daftykins> cookta2012: sorry, no idea on SFTP key auth
[23:52] <asus_ux501> Bashing-om I have not been able to boot into a linux on asus_ux501 yet.
[23:52] <Bashing-om> asus_ux501: Several postings in respect to getting ubuntu installed on the latest Asus machine . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2307273&page=2&highlight=asus .
[23:54] <codelion> It constantly amazes me how manufacturers manage to break things for linux users
[23:54] <codelion> I had to write a custom-ish driver at one point for my samsung chronos
[23:55] <daftykins> yep, though i've mostly seen it on gaming spec laptops which are systems worthy of a good laugh to begin with
[23:55] <daftykins> if you have the money to buy a gaming spec laptop, you want it to run well... so i don't see why most try to install Linux where less games work out of the box immediately (yes i know, it's improving)
[23:56] <codelion> yeah, but I wouldn't be gaming on my laptop
[23:56] <cyclick> How can I edit the action performed when I left-click on the Trash can in the task bar?
[23:56] <codelion> historically, I've been influenced by the better screen + ram specs
[23:57] <codelion> is there a way to automate the fstab update
[23:57] <codelion> or automate in general all the things I'd need to fix
[23:57] <six86> Hello. Is there some with a HP Microserver gen8 around?
[23:57] <daftykins> six86: direct support questions are better than "does anyone use..."
[23:58] <six86> Hello. Is there some with a HP Microserver gen8 around and can give me the lsusb output of the sd card reader?