[12:00] <mmiikkee12> i like ubuntu already - didn't have to reboot after updates ;)
[12:00] <Cran1988> ?
[12:00] <pjott> funkyHat, I have: "Systemverkty" (English: Systemtools)
[12:00] <Cran1988> ?
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  one's a laser printer
[12:00] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  im not sure any linux has to reboot after updates unless its kernel or something like that
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> the one I need
[12:01] <mmiikkee12>  btrue, but this is the first distro i've ever actually updated...
[12:01] <Gedionsen> Can't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut...
[12:01] <mmiikkee12> *true
[12:01] <Cran1988> ?
[12:01] <Siph0n> do ppl here use subversion? and if so what version?
[12:01] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Diagram2.png
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ok bluefoxicy lets try this in a network there is a base computer and than you have extra computers. the one with the printer is that a base pc or an extra?
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  check the idagram
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> *diagram
[12:02] <wolverian> hmm, can't find relevant help in the eclipse docs
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> (that funky lightening thing is a serial link, since it's USB)
[12:02] <blueblood> How do I search for dirs?
[12:02] <wolverian> I also can't just uninstall gcj, since eclipse-base depends on it
[12:02] <dooglus> blueblood: "locate"
[12:03] <wolverian> that seems to indicate that ubuntu _really_ wants me to use gcj instead of sun's vm :)
[12:03] <dooglus> blueblood: or "find / -type d -name dirname"
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> blueblood: places->search for files
[12:03] <Gedionsen> Can't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut... Does anyone know?
[12:03] <pjott> funkyHat, Found it ;)
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  you got it now?
[12:03] <blueblood> dooglus, bluefoxicy, thanks
[12:04] <_jason> Gedionsen, you want to add a launcher to a custom app?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, your modem has to be attached to one of the pcs or a 3rd pc your diagram soesnt show that
[12:04] <gnomefreak> doesnt*
[12:04] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  my cable modem is attached to a router.
[12:04] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  start at the cloud that says "internet" and move down slowly.
[12:04] <calamari> hi
[12:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> ahh man!  i just edited clearlooks to make it flat and have zero saturation in its greys, and it looks sweeeet.
[12:05] <Gedionsen> _jason Already have that, but i don't know how to assign a shortcut like Ctrl+Alt+?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  here's a hint:  the linksys wrt54g is physically stationed inside my house.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, i understand that but you have a ehternet cord from pc-router and modem to router right?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  yes.  That's what a router is for.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> yes now what port is the modem plugged in?
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Port 1 on the router.  Icegate is plugged into port 2 on the router; icebox is plugged into port 3.
[12:06] <Siph0n> can neone tell me if there is a help file for what each file color means? like when i type ls and some are light blue and other files or dark blue
[12:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell Gedionsen about shortcut
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ok bluefoxicy  either way try the routers ip it should work
[12:07] <cafuego_> Siph0n: That's user-configurable, so no real meaning.
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  explain exactly why the router's ip should work?  The router isn't broadcasting printing packets, and it knows not of the two printers on Icegate.
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  at the same time, why exactly would the remote ubuntu machine be sharing the printer without me having configured it to do so
[12:08] <BurgerMann> My friend wanted to disable the GUI and was told that sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm would do the trick. However the command he was told to enable doesn't work. What do he do?
[12:08] <thrush> Siph0n: type file filename that should give u a pretty good idea
[12:08] <Siph0n> oh k... neway to see the defaults? cause some of my files are a light blue, and i think its suppose to be a command, but when i type it it says not command
[12:08] <Siph0n> k
[12:08] <Siph0n> thanx :)
[12:08] <calamari> I'm not sure what happened (perhaps the Breezy upgrade?) but I can no longer run Java JAR's by double-clicking them.  To try to fix it I wrote a shell script javajar which works fine from the command line, but it doesn't seem to help when running from gnome
[12:08] <cafuego_> Siph0n: normally, blue would be a directory, yellow an executable file/script
[12:08] <gnomefreak> the router sees the pc your pc will send info through router to printer
[12:08] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the router is not hosting a print server.
[12:09] <mmiikkee12> BurgerMann: apt-get remove gdm?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> the router is hosting the pc with the printers no?
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the remote computer (icegate) is also not broadcasting over the network anything about the printer.
[12:09] <cafuego_> Siph0n: run 'dircolors' for a list of what's currently set.
[12:09] <Siph0n> k, i did file filename for a light green file and it said shell script executable
[12:09] <Siph0n> thanx! :)
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the pc sees the printer, and uses it; it does not advertise to the network that there is a printer there, thus across the network nothing is saying that there's a printer.
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  ok let's try talking about windows.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> blue the pc your on now with-out the printer will send infor to printer using the ip address
[12:10] <cafuego_> purple would appear to me media (sound,image,video)
[12:10] <BurgerMann> mmiikkee12: I'll tell him. Thanx
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  in windows, you right click a printer, and hit, "Share"
[12:10] <mmiikkee12> yw
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Windows begins broadcasting packets that say, "I am sharing a printer.  It is called CLP-4000."
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy,  i am sharing a printer right now threw a router
[12:11] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Now, on a remote PC, you say, "Look at the network.  List the printers available."
[12:11] <cafuego_>  Siph0n: The format is *.EXT=ANSICOLORCODE;
[12:11] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  and that PC says, "I found a CLP-4000"
[12:11] <sivang> hi all
[12:12] <mmiikkee12> wtf, synaptic doesn't have supertux?
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Now step back, the remote host (Icegate) is running Linux instead of Windows.  Ubuntu Linux is not broadcasting samba packets.  It's not advertising that there's a printer connected to it.
[12:12] <cafuego_> !info supertux
[12:12] <ubotu> supertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[12:12] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: Yes it does. I'm *playing* it.
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  so unless my computer has hacked into it and taken remote control, there's no way it knows there's a printer there.
[12:12] <cafuego_> mmiikkee12: universe
[12:12] <Siph0n> thanx cafuego and thrush, thats exactly what i needed to know :)
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  I need to find the Linux equivalent of right-clicking the printer and telling the machine to share it.
[12:12] <mmiikkee12> it's not in my synaptic, even in universe
[12:13] <Gedionsen> _jason ty, your the bomb...
[12:13] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, look you may have to go through the list and find the printer to set it up in cups than use ip address of router for network if you think that im wrong try looing at your help icon and see what that says or try ubuntu.wiki.org
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  ok, but the printer is not there in cups.
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> cafuego_:  when you plug a printer in, does it automatically broadcast to the network that you have it?
[12:13] <_jason> Gedionsen, yw
[12:13] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, windows and linux share nothing i mean nothing (as in same) you can share your windows printer but i dont think cups will help there i wouldnt know i hate windows
[12:14] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: Uh, if you are it on MacOSX, sure.
[12:14] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  see, that's the thing.  I have a printer installed through cups, but cups isn't sharing it.
[12:14] <bluefoxicy> cafuego_:  UBUNTU.
[12:14] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: dude
[12:14] <mmiikkee12> apt-get worked
[12:14] <pundai> hey i got this today: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:14] <pundai> with synaptic
[12:14] <cafuego_> out-of-the-blue question == out-of-the-blue answer ;-)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, if your printer is not listed in cups that is a sign that there isnt drivers for it
[12:14] <Klowner> so I went through some local LUG posts, so far I've seen..  This should be simplified , and there should be a GUI for configuring it.
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> "
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> ok
[12:15] <sivang> anybody have an idea how to set up ATI X300 On breezy?
[12:15] <pundai> why did it happen
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> SO THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO DO THIS
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> THANKS GUYS.
[12:15] <gnomefreak> if your printer is already hooked to ubuntu linux on other pc your printer WILL be in cuos list
[12:15] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: Calm down.
[12:15] <mmiikkee12> oh, do that ^
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  on my pc?  No, it's not.
[12:16] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  it's in the list on the other one.
[12:16] <pundai> mmiikkee12, cafuego_ why did the error happen
[12:16] <cafuego_> cafuego_: I am _not_ just online here helping you, I am also dealing with paying clients in real life.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> it should be in the list on this one too
[12:16] <cafuego_> pundai: us.archive is a bad, bad machine.
[12:16] <pundai> i see cafuego_ talks to himself
[12:16] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  exactly why should it eb on the list on this one?  If I plug directly into the cable modem, will the whole world be able to print to my printer automatically?
[12:16] <pundai> cafuego_, interesting..
[12:16] <gnomefreak> unless ofcourse the other pc isnt runnning debian
[12:16] <mmiikkee12> who knows...
[12:16] <bluefoxicy> the pc is running ubuntu
[12:16] <gnomefreak> anyone with your routers ip address can
[12:17] <Stormx2> gimme something usefull to do towards the ubuntu project
[12:17] <Orborde> bluefoxicy: Get it working before worrying about security
[12:18] <crimsun> Stormx2: there're hosts of ways to get involved
[12:18] <gnomefreak> unless your fire wall blocks me i can set this computer to print on ur printer
[12:18] <mmiikkee12> Stormx2: make an Ubuntu Blue theme - i hate brown
[12:18] <mmiikkee12> ;)
[12:18] <thrush> Stormx2: if u go to school sneak into the computer room and install ubuntu on all the machines
[12:18] <mmiikkee12> that too ;)
[12:18] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: You can at any time edit /etc/cups/* and edit the config files, so sharing works.
[12:18] <WX> anyone here want to help me figure out if my PSU isn't providing high enough quality voltages?
[12:18] <WX> +12V:     +12.46 V
[12:18] <WX> +3.3V:     +3.12 V
[12:18] <Stormx2> thrush: You think I havn't done that?
[12:18] <WX> +5V:       +4.85 V
[12:18] <WX> -12V:     -14.91 V
[12:18] <cafuego_> WX: Stop pasting!!!!!!
[12:19] <WX> are those voltage readings bad?
[12:19] <Klowner> WX: is it being unstable?
[12:19] <WX> yeah
[12:19] <Stormx2> thrush: I net sent, they banned my windows account. I just booted up ubuntu and used that
[12:19] <WX> cafuego_, sorry only had 4 lines to paste
[12:19] <cafuego_> WX: There is _no_ pasting here.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> WX, use pastebin
[12:19] <WX> Klowner, yeah it crashes quite often
[12:19] <cafuego_> Not even "only 4"
[12:19] <WX> wow let's all be rule nazis
[12:19] <ompaul> !tell WX about paste
[12:19] <WX> u've spent more lines correcting me
[12:19] <cafuego_> WX: Wow, let all 500 users paste "only 4" lines.
[12:20] <mmiikkee12> WX: no rule for you!
[12:20] <mmiikkee12> :P
[12:20] <WX> haha
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  why bother he cant read the topic?
[12:20] <cafuego_> Why do YOU need to special and an exception?
[12:20] <bhearsum> how do i get the source code of a package?
[12:20] <Stormx2> Ubuntu blue theme has been done (ubuntuforums.org), and i've already had to tell my school's admins i have root.
[12:20] <bluefoxicy> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_01.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_02.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_03.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_04.png
[12:20] <Siph0n> lol
[12:20] <crimsun> bhearsum: make sure you have the deb-src line(s) uncommented, then apt-get source package
[12:20] <bhearsum> crimsun: thats what i thought...i'm getting errors though. Could not open file firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:20] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Note that the 3745 is shown for CUPS and for the HP driver finding it, so those two entries are the local printer.
[12:20] <WX> cafuego_, quit whining... why would everyone paste a few lines at the same time?
[12:20] <ompaul> bluefoxicy,  tinyurl.com is useful 26 character url for that
[12:20] <bhearsum> i tried browsing the repo, too, but i couldn't find it
[12:21] <cafuego_> WX: That isn't the point.
[12:21] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  that was more than one :(
[12:21] <Stormx2> what else... hmm
[12:21] <cafuego_> WX: One 1 person is allowed, there's no reason to tell others they can't. Ergo, no pasting. End of story.
[12:21] <bendb> I am running Hoary, and can't use lpr from the command line:
[12:21] <markybob> this couldnt be more off topic if i tried, but which actor does this guy look like?  i cant remember the name and it's driving me nuts.  http://www.markybob.com/camelot.jpg
[12:21] <ompaul> gnomefreak, so three entries :)
[12:21] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  look at the pictures.  That's the entire process of pointing at my router.  Do you see something here?  (Hint:  There's 2 printers on the remote computer and one on the local)
[12:21] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: hmm? It's right here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[12:21] <bendb> blout@chipmunk:~ $ lpr
[12:21] <bendb> lpr: error - scheduler not responding!
[12:21] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: sorry
[12:22] <gnomefreak> the second url is that one the pc with the printer or not?
[12:22] <crimsun> bhearsum: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[12:22] <cafuego_> WX: if you disagree, take it up with an op.
[12:22] <WX> ok let me talk to chanserv
[12:22] <WX> he's prolly as helpful as you
[12:22] <bhearsum> crimsun: oh, the source is the .orig + the diff, right?
[12:22] <crimsun> bhearsum: yes
[12:22] <bhearsum> duh, heh
[12:22] <bhearsum> thanks bud
[12:22] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the second one is my machine, it detected my local printer twice
[12:22] <cafuego_> WX: Where exactly did I agree to helping you?
[12:22] <WX> lol
[12:22] <Stormx2> cafuego_, WX: shut up >.>
[12:22] <WX> thanks Storm
[12:23] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  both entries are my local 3745 printer.
[12:23] <cafuego_> (apart from informing you of channel policy, thus probably preventing you from being kicked off?)
[12:23] <bendb> I have cups configured, via 'sudo gnome-cups-manager', and the test page prints fine.
[12:23] <crimsun> WX: to put the issue to rest, pasting more than 3 lines unless excepted by a specific request from an op is the guideline here
[12:23] <Stormx2> !paste
[12:23] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:23] <darrochfamily> I just installed thunderbird with apt-get and I got a funny error message saying that I hadn't specified a maxdepth option.  can anyone tell me what it meand? I have pasted it in flood
[12:24] <WX> ok
[12:24] <WX> instead
[12:24] <Stormx2> WX: I know it seems silly, but if we allow exceptions lines can get big ;-)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> this last url is showing the ml-2550 is this not the laser printer and why is it you dont have it set to network?
[12:24] <WX> okay storm
[12:24] <cafuego_> darrochfamily: That's a command in the post-install script messing up; did the install finish OK?
[12:24] <WX> i ahve an idea
[12:24] <Stormx2> WX: Listening =)
[12:24] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak: ?
[12:24] <jepcubed> markybob: thanks now that is going to bother me all night :)
[12:25] <darrochfamily> cafuego_ , I think so
[12:25] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  when i hit next from 03, it went there.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> those screenshots are from the pc without the printer hooked to it?
[12:25] <cafuego_> darrochfamily: Just ignore it then :-)
[12:25] <Stormx2> I was going to get involved with the Ubuntu-IE team, but they are all communists...
[12:25] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  yeah.
[12:25] <WX> VCore:     +1.32 V  |   +12V:     +12.46 V   |   +3.3V:     +3.12 V    |   +5V:       +4.85 V   |   -12V:     -14.91 V         <--- does this reading look bad?
[12:25] <markybob> jepcubed, you know who i'm thinking of, right?  i cant even remember what movies his been in, but i know i've seen him
[12:25] <darrochfamily> cafuego_ , Iok thanks
[12:25] <Stormx2> WX: No idea ;-)
[12:25] <WX> Stormx2, lol
[12:25] <jepcubed> markybob: yes, it is killing me now ...
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ok the pc without the printers should be set to network not local
[12:25] <Stormx2> I'ma go see how the ubuntu-ie team is going
[12:26] <Stormx2> I still have op permissions on their channel...
[12:26] <gnomefreak> the pc with the printers should be set to local
[12:26] <cafuego_> Stormx2: They're undoubtedly in teh pub.
[12:26] <Terminus> WX, +3.3V seems a bit too low for my tastes and -12V seems to be too big. that's just me.  :)
[12:26] <vincent_> does linux ubuntu have some sort of ascii-table in it?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, you say it went through but yet you still cant print
[12:26] <cafuego_> vincent_: man ascii
[12:26] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  it blindly says whatever.  I can put the URI as <IP_ADDRESS> if I wanta nd it works.
[12:27] <r0bby> how do I redownload the keyrings?
[12:27] <ompaul> cafuego_, pub that something to do with ftp?
[12:27] <defendguin> is there any way to more tightly integrate gmail into my desktop.  when i click on an email link in a webbrowser i dont want evolution to come up i want open a window for gmail so i can compose it there??
[12:27] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, depends on what works means cause it works means to me is that u can print
[12:27] <WX> Terminus, lol that's what i was thinking
[12:28] <cafuego_> ompaul: only insofar as you can normally type 'mget beer'
[12:28] <Grug2> hey guys, if I have a .bin install file, how do I actually install from it?
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  your printer is connected to your network via an ethernet connection isn't it
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> i.e. hp jetdirect
[12:28] <r0bby> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or director
[12:28] <gnomefreak> a router
[12:28] <cafuego_> Grug2: Depends on what it is.
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> printer->router->computers?
[12:28] <oskude> Grug2, form where, where there no instructions ?
[12:28] <Grug2> its the sun java sdk
[12:28] <bendb> Where would be a good place to ask about getting lpr to work on my Hoary system that is running cups?
[12:28] <cafuego_> Grug2: it varies from jjst running it to converting it to removing it and using  aproperly packaged one instead.
[12:28] <Terminus> WX, maybe it's time to change the PSU? i remember frying a mobo because we ignored the voltage readouts. =D
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> see my printer isn't a print server, it's a printer.  It doesn't have its own ethernet interface, or its own IP.
[12:28] <gnomefreak> pc with printer and router than my pc without either just an ethernet connection to router
[12:28] <cafuego_> Grug2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:28] <Grug2> but its just a bin file... under windows, i just click and it works
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> huh
[12:29] <oskude> yeah, on windows i just click :)
[12:29] <Grug2> well at least it works under windows easily :)
[12:29] <bluefoxicy> this is pissing me off
[12:29] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, look im telling you how to make it print either do it the way i suggest or ask someone else cause right now mine works great and im on a different floor as my printer
[12:29] <dnB> can anyone help me out? i did a cd install of edubuntu, everything went well except 2% of packages couldnt be read from disk, im now @ command line only, so i tried to use apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (as the package is missing) however it prompts me to insert the cdrom (which cant be read) can anyone help me to get it to use a diff source? (i have a net connection working)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> and the printer is only an epson c64
[12:30] <cafuego_> Grug2: You cna convert it to a .deb for ubuntu using the make-jpkg command (instructions via that wiki page). - OR you cna just use the blackdown prebuilt java 1.4.2, which is in the 'universe' repository.
[12:30] <kvidell> Are ShipIT cds coming in from The Netherlands?
[12:30] <kvidell> I have a mysterious box waiting for me at home from the Netherlands.
[12:30] <mmiikkee12> oh btw... is there still that problem where you run the risk of trashing an ntfs partition if you access it from linux?
[12:30] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  are you using ipp printing?
[12:30] <cafuego_> kvidell: Apparently
[12:30] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  or SMB?
[12:30] <kvidell> hm, okay.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> hold on let me look\
[12:30] <SourceYako> hello
[12:30] <cafuego_> the dutch guys have all received theirs already
[12:30] <SourceYako> yup :)
[12:30] <thrush> dnB: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list comment out # the cdrom line at top
[12:30] <SourceYako> got a small problem here
[12:30] <SourceYako> anyone willing to help?
[12:31] <dnB> thrush, thanks a lot <3
[12:31] <kvidell> My mom thought it was a bomb or something (We're from The Netherlands and have the same last name as the kid being accused with some large kidnapping scandal out there right now, so she thinks we're going to be targeted *smacks his forehead*)
[12:31] <dnB> :)
[12:31] <thrush> dnB: then sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <dnB> thanks
[12:31] <dnB> brb
[12:31] <Grug2> ok thanks - i figured it out... had to set execute permissions on the bin file
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ipp
[12:31] <cafuego_> kvidell: Make sure to sprinkle some flour on the cds and yell ANTHRAX!!!
[12:31] <SourceYako> I mounted 3 NTFS filesystems to /media/stuff
[12:31] <kvidell> lol
[12:31] <kvidell> She'd fall over.
[12:31] <SourceYako> but on opening the folders, they don't read
[12:31] <dabaR> stuff is a bad word:)
[12:31] <dabaR> SourceYako: permission not granted?
[12:32] <SourceYako> nope
[12:32] <mmiikkee12> can you still access them from windows...?
[12:32] <SourceYako> it? 500
[12:32] <gnomefreak> try sudo
[12:32] <SourceYako> but I can't change it
[12:32] <SourceYako> yup I can
[12:32] <crimsun> you need to mount them with umask=022
[12:32] <SourceYako> sudo dir /media/stuff works
[12:32] <mmiikkee12> so would it be safe to access my win2k partition from here?
[12:32] <SourceYako> but I want to access them from the normal account to
[12:32] <dabaR> SourceYako: do what crimsun told you:)
[12:32] <Nick_Hill> The channel's topic is really mangled for me. I think an international character set has been used. Can the topic be written in UTF-8, C or ISO8859-1?
[12:32] <dabaR> Add that to the fstab file.
[12:32] <SourceYako> oh k
[12:32] <dabaR> Or jkust mount like that.
[12:33] <SourceYako> thanks crimsun and dabaR
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  to me nothing about windows is "safe"
[12:33] <dabaR> excellent
[12:33] <markybob> jepcubed still around?
[12:33] <dabaR> haha
[12:33] <varsendagger> hey i just updated to breezy how do i install xubuntu?
[12:33] <Grug2> win xp has been very safe for me
[12:33] <SourceYako> btw crimsun
[12:33] <mmiikkee12> i mean accessing ntfs from linux
[12:33] <dabaR> Grug2: are you still here with taht xp talk?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <SourceYako> does that work with the breezy badger distro too?
[12:33] <mmiikkee12> i only have windows for my mom...
[12:33] <Grug2> ? i am installing java now
[12:33] <dabaR> SourceYako: it is distro independent.
[12:33] <SourceYako> cuz fstab seems different to me from hoary
[12:33] <markybob> jepcubed, paul giamatti.  from sideways.  :)
[12:34] <Nick_Hill> My 78 y/o dad uses Debian
[12:34] <varsendagger> now i've allready installed xfce4 will that cause any problems?
[12:34] <SourceYako> I'll try it though
[12:34] <SourceYako> thanks
[12:34] <crimsun> varsendagger: nope.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, no
[12:34] <varsendagger> great
[12:34] <varsendagger> do you promis?
[12:34] <SourceYako> bai
[12:34] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:34] <mmiikkee12> no :P
[12:34] <gnomefreak> var you can try this
[12:34] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: I know read is safe...not sure if they ever got writing to NTFS to a completely perfect state.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove xfce
[12:34] <gnomefreak> or add purge in there if you like
[12:35] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: That would do.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> than sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <gnomefreak> that is if you feel safer that way varsendagger
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i make beagle auto start?
[12:36] <varsendagger> dabaR, what is the FS licence, is that th one in sources.list or the one for this chat room
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> the deamen
[12:36] <varsendagger> ?
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> daemon
[12:36] <varsendagger> neaver mind i wasn't serious any way
[12:37] <twisted_maple> anyone know why I get "Playback device not found" when trying to play midi?
[12:37] <Nick_Hill> Who sets the channel topic? Does it look messed up for anyone else?
[12:37] <crimsun> Nick_Hill: your irc client doesn't properly support UTF-8 then
[12:37] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill:  this part?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it was set by tritium and no it looks fine
[12:38] <Orborde> twisted_maple: AFAIK it's because MIDI is not set up by default on Ubuntu. Go searching the wiki/forums.
[12:38] <Nick_Hill> Quest-Master, Yes
[12:38] <thrush> twisted_maple: ah midi.. good luck man
[12:38] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill: Yeah, I get it too ;x
[12:38] <Grug2> anybody know if linux/ubuntu supports Windows .fon fonts (not ttf but raster?)
[12:38] <Nick_Hill> So it probably isn't in UTF 8?
[12:38] <twisted_maple> Orborde -- got all the sound card set.  Timidity works find... trying to get the EMU-8000 to kick in.  Mods are all loaded.  Devices (sequencer) is created.
[12:38] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill: What client are you using?
[12:38] <dabaR> varsendagger: free software klicences, and the other open source licences. They all disclaim all warranty, you can read the disclaimer from GPL for excample.
[12:38] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I used to get it to start from my ~/.gnomerc until I realised how much it affected system performance and removed it
[12:38] <dts> i have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?
[12:38] <Nick_Hill> Quest-Master, X-chat
[12:38] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill: Dunno.. I'm using HydraIRC on Windows
[12:39] <gnomefreak> :(winblows
[12:39] <Nick_Hill> So it is almost certainly not in UTF-8
[12:39] <Orborde> twisted_maple: Okay, I have no idea, then. Sorry. :)
[12:39] <oskude> does anyone know of a program that show the disk usage, like "top" shows cpu usage ? (i can imagine that this aint so easy)
[12:39] <twisted_maple> df
[12:39] <twisted_maple> oskude: df
[12:39] <gnomefreak> isnt utf-8 unix only?
[12:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus beagled hinders system performance?
[12:40] <Orborde> gnomefreak: Doubt it
[12:40] <oskude> twisted_maple, you dont seem to know what "top" makes, but thanks
[12:40] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, no
[12:40] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[12:40] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, don't ask me how to get it working on windows though ;)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> when is linux going to break into the 1990's with pervasive indexed file architecture, so that searches are instant?
[12:41] <mmiikkee12> # not sure what this does, but it looks important: - comment right before proc in my fstab :)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> there is a free download of xchat for windows works pretty much the same
[12:41] <oskude> BROKEN_LADDER, use "locate"
[12:41] <gnomefreak> yes i said free :)
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> oskude lol
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> oskude locate is an archaic program.
[12:41] <Grug2> Can gnome use raster fonts from windows (.fon) ?
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> oskude it requires a database to be occasionally updated.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> my g/f is scared of linux so i found it for winblows
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 why would you want to do that?
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 just out of curiosity..
[12:42] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: every time you create, edit or delete a file, the beagle daemon updates its database to make a note of the change.
[12:42] <Orborde> gnomefreak: Make her use Linux.
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak lol.  mine is too.
[12:42] <Grug2> cause the fonts from linux are all fuzzy or distorted or something...
[12:42] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> Orborde dude..be realistic.  we don't all have nerdy girlfriends.
[12:42] <Grug2> i'd like to use the MS Sans Serif font
[12:42] <Grug2> if possible
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> my girlfriend is a literature major.  she's computer illiterate
[12:42] <Orborde> BROKEN_LADDER: What does she do with her computer?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> fonts for linux are fine why not try to set your resolotion different
[12:42] <Grug2> but it is raster, not ttf
[12:42] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I deleted a copy of the kernel source tree once, and after about 2 hours of frantically trying to catch up with the thousands of deletes, beagled crashed my PC
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 then use the ms sans serif true type font.
[12:42] <Grug2> its not ttf though...
[12:42] <Grug2> its a raster font
[12:42] <Grug2> .fon
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 look for .ttf files in windows and copy them.  there's a fonts directory.
[12:42] <axel> hello all
[12:42] <bob832> is there a way to display an address bar in nautilus?
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 it's also available as a .ttf
[12:43] <Grug2> ok - i'll try it... you know where the fonts directory is?
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 i once copied all those windows fonts.
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 search for it.  it's easy to find.
[12:43] <Grug2> ok
[12:43] <Orborde> BROKEN_LADDER: Computer illiterate people are prime candidates for Linux, because they don't do anything with their computers :)
[12:43] <Grug2> thanks ladder
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 windows seems to make it hard to copy though.  i had to make a zip of it and copy that.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> if i wanted windows font i wouldnt have come to this side of the os elevater
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Orborde lol
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak windows has some great fonts dude.
[12:43] <mmiikkee12> what are the correct dump/pass options in fstab for ntfs?
[12:43] <axel> Help, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file error (im trying ipodlinux installation)
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak the freesans font, for instance, is atrocious
[12:44] <Grug2> linux fonts look great when printing, but horrible (to me ) on the screen
[12:44] <Nick_Hill> Orborde, It is probably not a good idea to *make* someone use GNU/Linux. Much better to tell them about it, lay out the ethical arguments then let them make their own decision. Pushing someone to use a different OS always results in rebellion in my experience.
[12:44] <mmiikkee12> everyone use dos!!!
[12:44] <lurah|off> nite --->
[12:44] <axel> Help, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file" error (im trying ipodlinux installation)
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> can a linux file system automatically save dynamic file attributes and make an index that a program can use, if it understands that file system?  like in beos..searches were faster even than mac osx spotlight.  because the fs wase indexed like database, and the search utility knew how to interface with it..
[12:45] <oskude> axel, that would be like "why can i open the door". be more precise !
[12:45] <gnomefreak> BROKEN_LADDER, but i dont get if you know linux is not windows why not find a font that linux has to use that looks better ther eis a font package for the guy looking for it but i cant remember what its called i hate windows with a passion btw :)
[12:45] <Orborde> Nick_Hill: The idea is to get people who won't know the difference to use it.
[12:45] <mmiikkee12> axel: try chmod 755 file
[12:45] <Orborde> Nick_Hill: (How condescending I am)
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak i've never found comparable quality in free fonts.
[12:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak i hate windows too. with a passion.  even linux is frustrating for me, since i used to use beos.
[12:46] <axel> mmiikkee12, ivze already set all the permissions
[12:46] <mmiikkee12> oh
[12:46] <gnomefreak> i dont see much of a difference really in fonts
[12:46] <mmiikkee12> then i give up...
[12:46] <mmiikkee12> try redownloading it, maybe corrupt
[12:46] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  you just installed linux dont give up already
[12:47] <Nick_Hill> Orborde, If someone is starting out and has no basis for comparison, then it is a good idea to just introduce them to GNU/Linux. But a grounding in the principles I think is a good idea too.
[12:47] <pztak> i'm having a strange problem.. i'm using a dell d600 laptop with ubuntu and recently i started using an external monitor (dell 2005fpw) at a different resolution, so i changed the resolution in xorg.conf. now even when i set the right resolution back and disconnect the monitor gnome won't load in the correct laptop resolution (1400x1050).. any ideas?
[12:47] <mmiikkee12> on axel's problem i mean
[12:47] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[12:47] <mmiikkee12> i'm still tweaking my system, hang on
[12:47] <gnomefreak> i wonder if bluefoxicy ever got the printer printing
[12:48] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  with linux you can be tweeking your system for 10 years
[12:48] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  installing samba does it.
[12:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> do any of you guys use clearlooks?  you know you can make the progress bar not have that atrocious "candy bar" striped look?
[12:48] <r0d> how do i change the default program run w/ various extensions? want to xmms to run .mp3 instead of totem
[12:49] <mmiikkee12> anyone know how to turn off the beeping when firefox can't find something in a page?
[12:49] <axel> oskude: well basicaly im executing something called make_sw, which should allow me to make a new firmware with linux for the ipod from a kernel specially made for ipod
[12:49] <Sionide> r0d, right-click -> properties -> open with
[12:49] <gnomefreak> samba is one of many programs that willl do it
[12:49] <r0d> Sionide, default
[12:49] <r0d> not needed to do that
[12:49] <r0d> *needing
[12:49] <Sionide> eh
[12:49] <Sionide> yeah you are
[12:50] <sobersabre> hi.. which is the latest openoffice2 ubuntu package ?
[12:50] <axel> oskude: except i get "./make_fw : cann ot execute binary file3
[12:50] <oskude> axel, sry out of my knowledge :(
[12:50] <r0d> Sionide, when i say default i mean double click and automatic it goes to xmms not totem
[12:50] <Sionide> yes! right-click a .mp3 file -> properties -> open with -> add -> xmms
[12:50] <Nick_Hill> I'm off now, but if a moderator comes along, someone please have a word about the character set used for the topic. I am nto the only person to see this, and I don't think there are any glyphs there which need fall outside ascii.
[12:50] <Sionide> the select xmms
[12:50] <gnomefreak> latest openoffice2 package?
[12:50] <oskude> axel, do you have "file3" ?
[12:50] <sobersabre> gnomefreak yep.
[12:50] <axel> oskude; yeah a bit out of mine too it seems
[12:50] <Aven> hey, how do I set the total amount of MB space that can be used for a directory?
[12:50] <r0d> Sionide, lol what a goof i am. i c what your saying
[12:50] <axel> oskude; maybe not whats file3
[12:51] <oskude> axel, or was file3 supposed to be file"
[12:51] <Sionide> r0d, goof indeed - you said it! ;)
[12:51] <gnomefreak> wouldnt open office 2 be the latest package and just grab updates from ubuntu updater?
[12:51] <sobersabre> Aven it is usually done on a per partition/user/group basis. it is done by the means of quota.
[12:51] <Aven> sobersabre: ah ok
[12:51] <Aven> well how do I set the quota?
[12:51] <sobersabre> gnomefreak it is, but v.2.0 is out, and my current package is 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu
[12:52] <axel> oskude, oh not i mistyped, its not file3 it was file"
[12:52] <Sionide> sobersabre, ubuntu breezy has openoffice2.0 as default.
[12:52] <Nick_Hill> I think the  characters in the topic should be |
[12:52] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, are you running breezy or hoary?
[12:52] <axel> oskude, end of brackets i ean
[12:52] <oskude> axel, can use use "./make_fw --help" ?
[12:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> r0d the file type settings in gnome are rather limited
[12:52] <Stormx2> Gimme something to do towards the ubuntu project...
[12:52] <sobersabre> gnomefreak breezy.
[12:52] <MrFarts> hey
[12:52] <gnomefreak> oo2 is default
[12:52] <Stormx2> hi
[12:52] <jrsims> when Dapper Drake is released, will I have to re-install? Or will I be able to update my Breezy Badger using Synaptic or something?
[12:52] <MrFarts> is there anything like yum for ubuntu ?
[12:53] <Stormx2> jrsims: Upgrade.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> jrsims: you can dist-upgrade, yes
[12:53] <r0d> Sionide, hows your knowledge w/ kde? they have a program w/ the ability to change any program/extension configuaration. is their a program for gnome that does the same?
[12:53] <Sionide> jrsims, you'll be able to upgrade
[12:53] <gnomefreak> apt-get = yum but different
[12:53] <r0d> Sionide, w/o right click prop:D
[12:53] <MrFarts> gnomefreak, as long as it has dependencies and can update from a repository, it's ok with me
[12:53] <jrsims> cool. :)
[12:54] <Sionide> r0d, *shrug* kde is poop, use kubuntu if you wanna use kde.
[12:54] <MrFarts> gnomefreak, can it do those things ?
[12:54] <blizzo> OOo 1.9.129 ist default
[12:54] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, Yes. The debian package management system is probably what inspired YUM. But it is somewhat more sophisticated.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> mrfarts thats only 1/4 of what synaptic (apt-get) can do
[12:54] <r0d> Sionide, lol, i dont use kde. just asking if there is a tool similar to what i said. been looking for some time now
[12:54] <MrFarts> gnomefreak, cool
[12:54] <gnomefreak> OO2 is default in breezy
[12:54] <gnomefreak> OO1.9 is default in hoary
[12:54] <axel> oskude: i tried "./make_fw --help", it says again "cannot execute binary file"
[12:54] <jrsims> I for one, would love to see a "fubuntu" - fluxbox + ubuntu. ;)
[12:54] <sobersabre> gnomefreak can you run dpkg -l on any of the oo2 packages ?
[12:54] <Sionide> r0d, don't know in that case
[12:54] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, The debian package management system is probably the most sophisticated package management system. THere are several GUI and command line front ends.
[12:54] <MrFarts> would you guys say that running ubuntu on a server is a reasonable idea ?
[12:55] <switchcat> greetings
[12:55] <sobersabre> jrsims or opuntu ( openbox ubuntu )
[12:55] <MrFarts> or is it a bit too bleeding edge ?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, i dont see why you would need to that is for debian packages
[12:55] <oskude> axel, show me what "ls -lah make_fw" prints (1line please)
[12:55] <crimsun> MrFarts: sure. There is, after all, a server-oriented install.
[12:55] <jrsims> sobersabre: Hmm. Never used openbox!
[12:55] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, And Ubuntu is based on Debian, and is based on the Debian package management system.
[12:55] <MrFarts> crimsun, excellent
[12:55] <MrFarts> thanks
[12:55] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill,  i ran debian pack in 1999 the last time
[12:55] <MrFarts> i quite liked it, but they are way too slow to update
[12:55] <axel> oskude: -rwxr-xr-x  1 axel axel 21K 2005-08-15 07:00 make_fw
[12:56] <MrFarts> i was intrigued by the fact that ubuntu appears to to debian-based
[12:56] <sobersabre> gnomefreak, what are you talking about ?
[12:56] <vincent_> how do you make a picture with your webcam in linux ubuntu?
[12:56] <Stormx2> MrFarts: Well it is =)
[12:56] <sobersabre> jrsims , it is a fork of blackbox, rewritten from scratch.
[12:56] <oskude> axel, hmm, maybe its NO binary that you can execute
[12:56] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, For GUI, there is synaptic, kynaptic and command line curses aptitude and dselect, command line only: aptitude, dpkg, apt-get
[12:56] <gnomefreak> sober dpkg -i isnt needed for ubuntu packages only need if you are downloading and installing a package ubuntu doesnt have
[12:57] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, i prefer the commandline anyway
[12:57] <Aven> hm, how do I set a quota for a user?
[12:57] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, To istall a package, sudo aptitude install packagename
[12:57] <MrFarts> although the last version of dselect i used was something awful
[12:57] <sobersabre> gnomefreak, I have asked you to run dpkg -l , not "i"
[12:57] <dts> i have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?
[12:57] <MrFarts> has it improved at all since then ?
[12:57] <axel> oskude:well, its supposed to, maybe its corrupt tho, im gonna try another nightly build version, brb
[12:57] <gnomefreak> sorry i thought that was i
[12:57] <jrsims> sobersabre: how does it compare to fluxbox?
[12:57] <Stormx2> dts: What do you mean?
[12:57] <MrFarts> Aven, enable quotas in fstab, run quotaon
[12:57] <blizzo> gnomefreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/
[12:58] <sobersabre> jrsims it doesn't ... openbox wins :)
[12:58] <MrFarts> Aven, and quotacheck
[12:58] <blizzo> openoffice.org2-officebean (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4)
[12:58] <Stormx2> Yay for gnome ;-)
[12:58] <MrFarts> Aven, i think there is a HOWOT somewhere
[12:58] <Aven> what's fstab? :\
[12:58] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, Or try the curses dselect or aptitude.
[12:58] <dts> Stormx2: well I have laptop A which has ubuntu installed on it and I want to move the system to Laptop B
[12:58] <thrush> dts: do u need the entire thing? id just move my home directory contents maybe
[12:58] <MrFarts> Aven, /etc/fstab
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Aven about fstab
[12:58] <Stormx2> dts: Copy over? Can't you just fresh install?
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, how many CDs is ubuntu btw ?
[12:59] <dts> can i have a list of all the programs that are installed or something from apt and then automatically install them on the new system
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, the website seems to imply thtat there is only one install CD
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, seems a bit smaall
[12:59] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, The default install fits on one
[12:59] <dts> because i don't want to reinstall everything i installed manually
[12:59] <crimsun> MrFarts: 1
[12:59] <Stormx2> MrFarts: One.
[12:59] <gnomefreak> blizzo: i have no questions of what packages are where i have this set to my liking and i have OO2 like most all other breezy users
[12:59] <jrsims> sobersabre: one thing I like about fluxbox is that it's really lightweight (it is kind of a pain to jimmy with config files to customize it though). Is openbox just about as lightweight?
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, the rest you have to get online ?
[12:59] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, However, there is a universe repository you can call on with 15000? packages
[12:59] <Stormx2> MrFarts: No.
[12:59] <Stormx2> MrFarts: It works fine without downloading anything else
[12:59] <crimsun> the CD contains everything you need.
[01:00] <Stormx2> MrFarts: But of course, you'll want to put more stuff on eventually ;-) Thats where apt-get or synaptic come in
[01:00] <MrFarts> crimsun, i guess i'm just used to seeing redhat in all its 7 CD glory :)
[01:00] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, If you need a large selection of packages offline, go for Debian sarge on 2 DVDs.
[01:00] <crimsun> universe+multiverse contain about 17000 additional packages.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> <<<has uni and multi uni and backports :)
[01:00] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, actually i don't need that much stuff, especially on a server
[01:00] <sobersabre> jrsims you can always apt-get install/apt-get remove any package... that's what's so good about debian ( ubuntu variant )
[01:00] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, basically, i need gcc, some servers
[01:00] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, is that stuff included ?/
[01:00] <Stormx2> MrFarts: if you enter the server option on the install cd, you get what you need, methinks
[01:01] <Nick_Hill> !repositories
[01:01] <ubotu> repositories is, like, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[01:01] <Aven> erm
[01:01] <Stormx2> MrFarts: gcc is available in the repos, yeah
[01:01] <Aven> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab <-- I save the file as winmac_fstab ?
[01:01] <MrFarts> Stormx2, it's not installed by default ?!
[01:01] <Stormx2> MrFarts: I... don't think so. Not sure, mind.
[01:01] <dts> so no hints on how to keep the programs that are on my system installed
[01:02] <MrFarts> thanks, i'll check it out
[01:02] <MrFarts> it's only two cds to download i guess :)
[01:02] <MrFarts> i'll try the live cd thing first
[01:02] <Stormx2> MrFarts: But if you are running a server you'll have internet and hence access to download it ;-)
[01:02] <Grug> wow - just installed MS verdana fonts and all the sudden my screen looks GREAT
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, The package management system is so good, you shouldn't worry about it. Just uncomment multiverse from /etc/apt/sources.list then...
[01:02] <garrincha>
[01:02] <Stormx2> Grug: BLASPHAMY!
[01:02] <Grug> lol
[01:02] <Grug> but i love ubuntu now
[01:02] <gnomefreak> only thing i wanna know is a list of GNU editoers for ubuntu other than emacs and vi and vi take offs
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, sudo aptitude update
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, sudo aptitude install packagename
[01:03] <axel> oskude: dude im with stupid, i had the ppc not i386 by mistake
[01:03] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, It will pull in dependencies like libc-dev make etc etc
[01:03] <oskude> axel, :)
[01:03] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, excellent
[01:03] <Grug> anybody know when the next release of ubuntu is?
[01:03] <Stormx2> MrFarts: Or simply "sudo apt-get install <packagename>" both work, you're more likely to see instructions with apt-get
[01:03] <eternale1> hey guys long time no talk which is actually a good think on a support channel :D
[01:03] <NoobieDoobieDo> Ubuntu seems a little slugish, how can I improve performance ?
[01:03] <eternale1> thing*
[01:03] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, sudo aptitude install gcc
[01:03] <jake37> anyone having probs with amarok player? I have added recommended engines (arts and xine) and it will simply cycle thru playlist and not play anything...
[01:03] <Stormx2> eternale1: Yeah ;-)
[01:04] <MrFarts> i have to take off
[01:04] <MrFarts> thanks for the info
[01:04] <dabaR> see ya
[01:04] <eternale1> anyway i've ran into a problem looking into the upgrading
[01:04] <Stormx2> MrFarts: Good luck =)
[01:04] <sobersabre> NoobieDoobieDo whaat do you mean "sluggish" ?
[01:04] <dabaR> change you rnick next time...
[01:04] <Nick_Hill> OK, Np. I'm off too
[01:04] <eternale1> i tried that first part with removal of firefox packages
[01:04] <eternale1> and now it won't let me install the mozilla-firefox one , it fails to fetch
[01:04] <eternale1> the package
[01:04] <Aven> noooooooooooo!
[01:04] <NoobieDoobieDo> sobersabre, i mean graphicly, like "screen tearing", screen delay, and so on.
[01:04] <Aven> for fstab, I get: No usable windows/mac partitions found
[01:04] <Aven> :(
[01:04] <Burke> Hello
[01:04] <eternale1> then i try apt-get update and that fails
[01:04] <NoobieDoobieDo> sobersabre, win2k by comparison, runs 'smoother'
[01:05] <jake37> dabaR > any experience with amaroK player?
[01:05] <Stormx2> !tell Aven about windowsdrives
[01:05] <krogoth64> how hard would it be to get to the xdm login screen on ubuntu from another computer?
[01:05] <eternale1> with some 404 errors
[01:05] <gnomefreak> someone just told me anjuta is GNU :) yayyyyyyyy
[01:05] <dabaR> jake37: /j #kubuntu
[01:05] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: it will look smoother if you turn on x.org's backing store
[01:05] <dabaR> jake37: search the forums.
[01:05] <jrsims> is there a clean way to run both OpenBox and Gnome with ubuntu?
[01:05] <Stormx2> eternale1: You should inform whoever maintains the repos - that shouldn't happen
[01:05] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, ic. is that simple to do or no ?
[01:05] <jake37> dabar...I am using ubuntu w/ kde files added by installs only...is amarok a kde only prog?
[01:05] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: not too hard.  you need to add a line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> cool
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> thx
[01:06] <eternale1> hmm
[01:06] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: only problem is I don't have my PC with me, so I can't see exactly what I added.
[01:06] <eternale1> guess i won't be closing this firefox window ....
[01:06] <eternale1> ;D
[01:06] <oskude> axel, do you still have the ppc file ?
[01:06] <Stormx2> eternale1: lol!
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> ic
[01:06] <eternale1> haha
[01:06] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: it's something like :   Option "BackingStore" "yes"    in the graphic card section of the xorg.conf
[01:06] <nickrud> dooglus, that's called bait and switch, or something like that ;)
[01:06] <oskude> axel, i would be intereste what "file" says to that file
[01:06] <dabaR> jake37: no, look where UI told you, dont make me type. /j is for join channel in irc.
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, thx
[01:06] <Stormx2> eternale1: Hmmm... Try "sudo apt-get update"
[01:06] <dooglus> nickrud: no, I'm trying to help, I just don't have all the info to hand
[01:07] <krogoth64> can I log in to X remotely?
[01:07] <cfa> hi
[01:07] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: you could try that.  the worse that will happen is X will refuse to start, so you just take the line out again...
[01:07] <Stormx2> hey
[01:07] <jake37> dabaR> k...have been searching forums already
[01:07] <nickrud> dooglus, no, no, I think I can find it from that. Thanks, I'll look at it
[01:07] <cfa> any1 have a tablet
[01:07] <eternale1> did that with the same result
[01:07] <eternale1> s
[01:07] <Stormx2> cfa: Yeah, I have to take 4 a day...
[01:08] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, i think it will also help to set the color depth to 16 instead of 24, that was my primary concern...
[01:08] <dooglus> nickrud: what it does is it keeps a copy of the graphical content of every window in RAM, so when you move things around, the windows underneath can be refreshed directly from the RAM copy, instead of the programs that created the windows having to do the work of working out what to redraw
[01:08] <Grug> !themes
[01:08] <Grug> lol
[01:08] <Grug> tell !themes
[01:08] <Grug> ok i'm a n00b
[01:08] <Stormx2> Grug: /msg ubotu themes
[01:08] <Grug> ahh thanks
[01:09] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: try the BackingStore thing - it made a huge difference for me.  Of course, it does use a little more RAM, so if you're short of RAM maybe it will make things worse.   I might really want that.
[01:09] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, in my xorg.conf there is no instance of 'backing store' but im asking google...
[01:09] <nickrud> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/speedups/ looks interesting
[01:09] <Stormx2> owwy i can barely type, me hands are so sore :-\
[01:09] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: no, it's not there by default, but you can add it.  It's one word, I'm pretty sure
[01:10] <cfa> any1 have a tablet laptop
[01:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> ok
[01:10] <Stormx2> cfa: No, but whats the problem?
[01:10] <cfa> i would like to get the pen to work
[01:10] <RustyJuggler> How do I get the vnc server running, I have tried to use the guide for vnc4server, but it wont start
[01:10] <Stormx2> !tell cfa about laptop
[01:10] <woody_> vnserver
[01:10] <eternale1> little more investigating into the 404 errors on the update .. they all seem to be in hoary-backports directory
[01:11] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: find the section called "device" where it sets up your graphics card, and add Option "backingstore" "on"
[01:11] <woody_> what is the default root password on a ubuntu install ?
[01:11] <britishseapower> why wont ubuntu play mp3s ? (just installed it)
[01:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> the lady on air america radio right now has a fucking east coast + british accent.  weird.
[01:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> oops..pardon my language
[01:11] <Orborde> woody_: There isn't one
[01:11] <Stormx2> !mp3
[01:11] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:11] <dooglus> woody_: by default the root password is locked.  we use 'sudo' to run commands as root.
[01:11] <kinkoblast> Will it mess up my install (default from 5.10 Ubuntu CD plus configed NDISWrapper for my Wireless card) if I install xubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, ok...
[01:11] <woody_> dooglus thanks
[01:12] <oskude> woody_, you can set one with "sudo passwd" (and sudo asks your password)
[01:12] <kinkoblast> woody_: There isn't one, root is disabled. Use sudo.
[01:12] <jb__> hi all, i can't adjust volume level on new 5.10 install - any suggestions?
[01:12] <britishseapower> !mp3
[01:12] <ubotu> well, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:12] <Stormx2> britishseapower: I just said that >.>
[01:12] <dooglus> woody_: so you can "sudo apt-get install package" and such like.  it'll ask for a password.  it wants YOUR password, not root's
[01:12] <dooglus> woody_: it'll only ask once - then it'll remember the password for 15 minutes I think
[01:13] <Stormx2> yeah 15
[01:13] <Stormx2> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ;-)
[01:13] <oskude> btw. are there benefits for root not having a password ?
[01:13] <RustyJuggler> vncserver says that it started whatever is in /home/myusername/.vnc/xstartup, but I still don't find it with netstat -t -l
[01:13] <kinkoblast> dogglus: For in that terminal, anyway.
[01:14] <Stormx2> oskude: Security, user friendly, it means you arn't likely to overwrite important stuff in nautilus, etc
[01:14] <cfa> stormx2, thanx i have been there any other ideas
[01:14] <bob832> hi. . .i successfully changed the volume control in the tray to control PCM however, my keyboard buttons do not change it - what would i have to change to correct this?
[01:14] <woody_> RustyJuggler it started remember to do the .vncrc if you want gnome desktop
[01:14] <Stormx2> bob832: You don't want it controlling master?
[01:14] <britishseapower> what a palava
[01:14] <rawtek> anyone here know how to set up wpa support with wpa supplicant
[01:14] <mmiikkee12> now to find a nice aqua background
[01:15] <Stormx2> britishseapower: Not really. You only need to execute one line
[01:15] <oskude> Stormx2, well you KNOW your password, so u use sudo. what i wanted to know is it harder to hack a root without password, or so...
[01:15] <bob832> Stormx2: no, i'm on a laptop and need the PCM to be controled
[01:15] <NoobieDoobieDo> <--- using no good intel 810 graphics card
[01:16] <cafuego_> mmiikkee12: http://www.cafuego.net/Aqua%20Blue.jpg
[01:16] <nickrud> NoobieDoobieDo, be also, I've just set it
[01:16] <cfa> i tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuT4010D, but it cashed X, i have a T4020D
[01:16] <mmiikkee12> cafuego_: 404 error
[01:16] <Stormx2> oskude: Well really, its a user thing. You'll find a lot of new users just use their root account for general work, its a big security risk, as root should only be used for admin (so that ports don't get left open, etc)
[01:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> nickrud, there really is little difference to the eye between 16 and 24/32 bit color depth
[01:17] <RustyJuggler> what is .vncrc?
[01:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> anyways thanks again all
[01:17] <nickrud> I run at 24, I'll do gl when I have a card that's worth it
[01:17] <Stormx2> oskude: ubuntu is different on that, it has an all-in-one account, were anyone hacking in won't be able to issue sudo remotely (i beleive)
[01:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> BYE ALL !
[01:17] <Stormx2> oskude: And like i said, it stops users renaming "var" to "SUPER HAPPY DIRECTORY"
[01:17] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: drag a window around quickly and you'll notice that there's no "gap" left behind while the redraw tries to catch up
[01:17] <kinkoblast> stormx2: I think you can use sudo remotly... Maybe it's my apple i'm thiniking of, but i've done it.
[01:18] <oskude> Stormx2, and renaming "var" with sudo wouldnt work ?
[01:18] <rawtek> need a little wpa support here
[01:18] <rawtek> please
[01:18] <dooglus> oskude: the main advantage is that people can't guess your root password - because you don't have one
[01:18] <kinkoblast> oskude: It would, but it's more trouble than it's worth,
[01:18] <cfa> rawtek me too
[01:18] <dooglus> oskude: now they will have to guess your user password AND your username - that makes it harder
[01:18] <cfa> i have Atheros
[01:18] <Stormx2> oskude: It would, but by the time you know how to sudo and rename and use terminal, you would have decided against it.
[01:19] <britishseapower> why doesnt firefox remember my settings?
[01:19] <cfa> rawtek what do u have
[01:19] <nickrud> cat /etc/groups | grep admin <--- my target
[01:19] <oskude> dooglus, ok, that sounds good
[01:19] <rawtek> cfa I tried to read the forums about wpa suipplicant but I don't get it
[01:19] <Stormx2> britishseapower: Why not?
[01:19] <britishseapower> i remove the bookmark bar exit and restart and it reappears
[01:19] <eternale1> ah there we go :D
[01:20] <nickrud> if I was interested, even
[01:20] <dooglus> oskude: of course, you're probably not running a ssh daemon anyway, so the point is moot - but if you do, you'll be a little safer
[01:20] <marlun> I'm confused how does relative paths work in linux, I'm working some with HTML and now I want to show a image, i do src="images/image.jpg" but the images does not show. The image is inside the images directory.
[01:20] <britishseapower> i am liking gnome tis nice....wish i had a larger display though
[01:20] <eternale1> just needed a little freenode inspiration
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: "./images/image.jpg"
[01:20] <sNoJaCk> has anyond heard of a problem with booting 2.6.12 kernels and above?  I cant get breezy working but hoary works fine.
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: using simply "image" is incorrect, even on a windows system.
[01:20] <marlun> Stormx2, tried that too =/
[01:20] <rawtek> cfa it said something about a config file I have to change
[01:20] <oskude> dooglus, actually i use ssh very often with my desktop and notebook...
[01:20] <dooglus> oskude: and the barrier that sudo puts in your way makes you notice that you're root, and may just stop you accidentally doing something stupid.  if you logged in as root you might forget you were root after a while
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: Check you've got the right address then
[01:20] <marlun> Stormx2, yea well it doesn't work with ./ added either. =/
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: make sure its not .JPG or .jpeg
[01:21] <cfa> well i am new to Debian, i always used RH or Centos or FreeBSD
[01:21] <rawtek> did those work well with wifi
[01:21] <cfa> yes
[01:21] <marlun> yes it was the same thing with the .css file before, but then i just moved it to the same directory as the html file.
[01:21] <Stormx2> marlun: Make sure the html file is saved in the right place, etc
[01:21] <kinkoblast> marlun: Remember, ubuntu is case sensitive.
[01:21] <Stormx2> mhmm
[01:21] <cfa> rawtek what chip set do u have
[01:21] <eternale1> brb
[01:22] <rawtek> cfa I have a belkin (Broadcom )
[01:22] <cfa> i have Atheros
[01:22] <rawtek> why did you leave BSD
[01:22] <vincent_> so if you drop a cat upside down it first dearches its back and then it arches his back with net result the paws are facing earth
[01:22] <oskude> well, i need root acces sometimes frequently so im lazy allways to use "sudo" do a made a password for it. and now i realized that "sudo su -" works too :)
[01:22] <cfa> u have a card or builtin
[01:22] <rawtek> card
[01:22] <oskude> do a made =  so i made
[01:22] <cfa> i didnt
[01:22] <rawtek> i have the net right now
[01:22] <marlun> kinkoblast, wasn't that either.. =/ can it have to do with the chmod of the file?
[01:22] <rawtek> just using wep vice wpa
[01:23] <dooglus> oskude: just "sudo -i" is best
[01:23] <Stormx2> oskude: ;-) Perfectly fine, but remember it breaks the GUI System rools
[01:23] <marlun> or maybe the images directory?
[01:23] <dooglus> oskude: then you get the root path, root home, etc.
[01:23] <kinkoblast> marlun: Are you using apache? Then yes.
[01:23] <Stormx2> dooglus: sudo -i ?
[01:23] <vincent_> I'm on this site and I click on the guestbook and then the whole of the mozille firefox closes, what's wrong with it then? what on earth causes a whole program to close?
[01:23] <kinkoblast> Marlun: try chmod +r (file)
[01:23] <cfa> i have add a dual boot to this laptop
[01:23] <dooglus> Stormx2: is that wrong?
[01:23] <oskude> dooglus, "sudo -i" = "sudo su -" ?
[01:24] <rawtek> which do you prefer
[01:24] <dooglus> Stormx2: try "echo $HOME" after each commnd...
[01:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: No, i just wondered what the -i option does
[01:24] <eternale1> i don't reccomend anyone in the middle of an unrar e process to ctrl-c it
[01:24] <eternale1> :\
[01:24] <bitblit> Is it possible to use WPA wireless encryption with Ubuntu? I have searched and can not find a guide...
[01:24] <kinkoblast> !!
[01:24] <ubotu> methinks ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:24] <cfa> while depends on what u want to use it for
[01:24] <dooglus> Stormx2: "man sudo" will tell you in detail, but basically it runs a login shell
[01:24] <kinkoblast> I just had a really good idea!
[01:24] <wolverian> bitblit, yes, see wiki.ubuntu.com and search for wpa
[01:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: ok :)
[01:24] <marlun> kinkoblast, that wasn't it either, everyone already had reading rights
[01:24] <cfa> i was going to try ubuntu as a desktop
[01:24] <rawtek> there is our sign...need to go back to the forums
[01:24] <Stormx2> vincent_: Not sure, maybe some embedded activex or some horrible horrible code?
[01:24] <kinkoblast> marlun: hmm... are images on in your browser?
[01:25] <bitblit> wolverian: thank you, I found it :)
[01:25] <rawtek> cfa what do you use BSD for
[01:25] <marlun> kinkoblast, yeah
[01:25] <pasadia> hello, how can I increase the size of my system font?
[01:25] <vincent_> what is activex?
[01:25] <Stormx2> vincent_: Evil
[01:25] <kinkoblast> !activex
[01:25] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kinkoblast
[01:25] <vincent_> like an evil spyware virus?
[01:25] <Stormx2> ubotu: no, activex is evil
[01:25] <ubotu> okay, Stormx2
[01:25] <oskude> pasadia, system -> preferences -> font
[01:26] <Grug> man i am so lovin ubuntu
[01:26] <kinkoblast> ... NO ONE TAUGHT UBOTU ABOUT ACTIVEX!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[01:26] !lilo:*! services restart, please bear with us
[01:26] <Stormx2> Grug: Great :)
[01:26] <Stormx2> kinkoblast: Just have ;-)
[01:26] <jb__> i could use a suggestion... i can't adjust the volume - stuck to max or mute. i've tried a few other solutions posted on the forums with no luck. i'm getting deafened by king crimson as i write this.
[01:26] <Stormx2> !activex
[01:26] <ubotu> activex is, like, totally, evil
[01:26] <pasadia> oskude, I don't have gnome
[01:26] <Grug> hey - i program activex components :)
[01:26] <oskude> pasadia, oh, sry
[01:26] <cfa> rawtek i want to configure 2 things, builtin A/B/G, penabled WACOM
[01:26] <vincent_> so activex is only active in the linux world and not on windows?
[01:26] <rawtek> so where are you at now
[01:26] <rawtek> with wifi
[01:26] <kinkoblast> ubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.
[01:26] <Stormx2> vincent_: Opposite.
[01:26] <ubotu> ...but activex is already something else...
[01:26] <Grug> you can run com objects on linux
[01:26] <vincent_> but I opened this site from linux!
[01:26] <kinkoblast> !forget activex
[01:27] <ubotu> kinkoblast: i forgot activex
[01:27] <britishseapower> i have sound - but when i try and play an mp3 in xmms it says soundacrd not configured properly...i have installed the win32 codec pack
[01:27] <dooglus> vincent_: activex is a technology used in windows to make it easier for hackers to take over your machine
[01:27] <Grug> lol
[01:27] <Grug> nm
[01:27] <cfa> still working on both, install ubuntu yesterday
[01:27] <Stormx2> dooglus: Well put.
[01:27] <Grug> so much misInformation :)
[01:27] <kinkoblast> ubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.
[01:27] <ubotu> okay, kinkoblast
[01:27] <vincent_> I am at the global warming non sacrificial zone of the Netherlands
[01:27] <rawtek> ok do you have the drive cfa?
[01:27] <rawtek> driver that is
[01:27] <marlun> kinkoblast, does apache2 has some kind of switch for allowing or not allowing relative paths? =)
[01:27] <cfa> where is the make command
[01:27] <bam_> anyone using an ftp server?
[01:27] <kinkoblast> There. NPOV ActiveX def.
[01:28] <cfa> the driver?
[01:28] <rubic> errors during 5.04 -> 5.10 upgrade - can i just download and apply the .debs?   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4450
[01:28] <cfa> ok
[01:28] <rawtek> for the built in wifi
[01:28] <Grug> when i do an ls and i get filenames in *green*, what does that mean?
[01:28] <Stormx2> kinkoblast: NPOV?
[01:28] <Smaug> Hello
[01:28] <vincent_> so why does the program close in linux too then?
[01:28] <cfa> yes for the A/B/G
[01:28] <Stormx2> Grug: Thats usually their permissions, I think
[01:28] <krogoth64> what's the best way to access X remotely?
[01:28] <oskude> Grug, green = executable (i thin)
[01:28] <Grug> thanks storm - was just thinking that :)
[01:28] <Smaug> Is it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?
[01:28] <kinkoblast> stormx2: Neutral Point Of View. I stole the term from Wikipedia :-)
[01:28] <Grug> hehe
[01:28] <krogoth64> I want to be able to leave applications running while I'm disconnected
[01:28] <rawtek> is it a linux drive
[01:28] <thrush> bam_: whats your question?
[01:28] <rawtek> r
[01:28] <cfa> but when i try to  make it doesnt run
[01:28] <Stormx2> kinkoblast: teehe
[01:28] <dooglus> krogoth64: probably using "ssh -X" - but what exactly do you want to do?
[01:28] <bam_> looking for a "simple" one to use
[01:28] <cfa> yes linux driver
[01:28] <rawtek> do you have a windows drive
[01:28] <krogoth64> firstly, I'm accessing it from windows :)
[01:28] <sobersabre> cfa what's the prob. from the start please ... ?
[01:28] <rawtek> r
[01:28] <vincent_> it is linux ubuntu
[01:29] <cfa> yes
[01:29] <krogoth64> I want to have the full desktop displayed on another computer
[01:29] <BlueEagle> Know what? I liked ubuntu so much that I replaced Gentoo with it on my server. :)
[01:29] <rawtek> have you ever heard of ndiswrapper
[01:29] <bam_> wondered if anyone had any recommendations
[01:29] <rawtek> itis awesome
[01:29] <dooglus> krogoth64: are these X programs you want to leave running?
[01:29] <Stormx2> bam_: You can use gftp, or you can "mount" the FTP server. Go to Places > Connect to server
[01:29] <thrush> bam_: openssh-server
[01:29] <krogoth64> yes
[01:29] <cfa> great, ok
[01:29] <vincent_> how can hackers take over your PC?
[01:29] <thrush> bam_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:29] <Smaug> Is it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?
[01:29] <Stormx2> bam_: Mounting it will make it work invisibly, as if it were on your computer ;-)
[01:29] <vincent_> only with activex?
[01:29] <BlueEagle> bam_: I've used proftp and found it to be functional enough.
[01:29] <krogoth64> I want to be able to leave azureus running overnight while my desktop is shut down, and then be able to reconnect to it
[01:29] <dooglus> krogoth64: where do you want them to display?  on the windows box or the linux box?
[01:29] <bam_> ok, cool
[01:29] <rawtek> so download ndiswrapper from the repositories
[01:29] <sobersabre> vincent_ no.
[01:29] <krogoth64> on windows, the desktop
[01:29] <fredforfaen> I cant get k3b to burn mp3's to audiocd...it complaints about some missing plugin , any ideas?
[01:29] <krogoth64> I have the cygwin x server
[01:29] <oskude> vincent_, there are MANY ways to do that
[01:30] <dooglus> krogoth64: interesting.  I don't know if it's possible.
[01:30] <cfa> i have the Atheros linux driver and i extract the tarball and i can not find the make command
[01:30] <Smaug> Can anyone help me?
[01:30] <vincent_> like 10s.. or 100s ways??
[01:30] <sobersabre> fredforfaen, idea: install some missing plugin
[01:30] <dooglus> krogoth64: if you could use a console program, then it would be easy.  but X apps, I don't know.
[01:30] <oskude> vincent_, 100s or more :)
[01:30] <kinkoblast> Vincent_: ActiveX lets web pages run arbatrary code on your computer. Like java, only windows-only.
[01:30] <rawtek> I have never confi'd with linux drives
[01:30] <Stormx2> Smaug: You could open terminal, otherwise I'm not sure.
[01:30] <fredforfaen> sobersabre well tell me what pluing to install then i will
[01:30] <rawtek> I am not smart enough
[01:30] <thrush> bam_: u were asking for ftp or ssh?
[01:30] <krogoth64> does ubuntu have good support for vnc?
[01:30] <vincent_> but now that I've installed linux I'm totally safe from activex?
[01:30] <rawtek> I habe to use the wrapper
[01:30] <dooglus> krogoth64: yes.  that would work.
[01:31] <sobersabre> fredforfaen , well, tell me what plugin is missing then i will
[01:31] <dooglus> krogoth64: but the apps would be displaying on your linux box then, not the windows box.
[01:31] <cfa> where r the wrappers
[01:31] <varsendagger> hey how do i configure xterm?
[01:31] <Stormx2> vincent_: Almost. if you install WINE and use IE as your browser, you arn't immune.
[01:31] <krogoth64> what do I need to get it up?
[01:31] <bam_> on my control panel on my website it gives an option to upload directly to a ftp server
[01:31] <vincent_> what the hell is WINE?
[01:31] <rawtek> you have synaptic up right?
[01:31] <kinkoblast> vincent_: unless you use IE in wine, yeh.
[01:31] <krogoth64> as long as they run on linux and I see them on windows I don't care what it does
[01:31] <dooglus> krogoth64: there's a "remote desktop" menu entry somewhere in the menus - that lets you set up the VNC server
[01:31] <varsendagger> !wine
[01:31] <Stormx2> vincent_: Wine is a windows emulator, kind of. It lets you run windows programs on linux.
[01:31] <bam_> if I run one on my box, then I can save scheduled backups to it
[01:32] <vincent_> I use Mozilla Firefox, so I am relatively safe
[01:32] <cfa> rawtek 1 sec
[01:32] <Smaug> Thanks Stormx2. I am running linux for the first time. I have tried redhat before, but I was never using it, but it was possible to switch somehow
[01:32] <krogoth64> and it runs the vnc server?
[01:32] <rawtek> cfa, k
[01:32] <oskude> krogoth64, i tried VNC (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and it worked like a charm from another ubuntu machine
[01:32] <sobersabre> fredforfaen ... what's up ? :)
[01:32] <dooglus> krogoth64: it runs *a* vnc server - I think it's called "vino" or something like that.
[01:32] <Stormx2> Smaug: I'm not sure! There will be a way, I'm not aware of it though!
[01:32] <cfa> rawtek i have now
[01:32] <thrush> bam_: u prob want either pure-ftpd, or vsftpd if u apt-get either it should work fine for u
[01:32] <rawtek> ok search for ndiswrapper
[01:32] <Stormx2> Smaug: Basicly you need to shut down X, but I don't know how to do that
[01:32] <krogoth64> ok, I think I have it... I'll switch over the hardware and see how fast I can get back here :)
[01:32] <Smaug> Stormx2 ..I don't know what "X" is..
[01:32] <vincent_> is there also a commodoreamigaemulator?
[01:32] <Stormx2> !X
[01:32] <ubotu> Stormx2: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:33] <Ahmuck> ubuntu live cd does not have ntp sync installed ?
[01:33] <Stormx2> >.>
[01:33] <fredforfaen> sobersabre i cant burn audio cds in k3b
[01:33] <Stormx2> Smaug: X is the X Windowing System. It is basicly the graphical layer on top of text.
[01:33] <Ng> vincent_: UAE
[01:33] <Smaug> Stormx2 I use gnome
[01:33] <Stormx2> Smaug: GNOME sits on X
[01:33] <sobersabre> fredforfaen, you don't see any answer in my messages ?
[01:33] <Smaug> Stormx2 I see..
[01:33] <varsendagger> this is off topic but i have src and i can't do a ./configure  Make Make install
[01:34] <Stormx2> varsendagger: What happens?
[01:34] <dooglus> varsendagger: make is lower case
[01:34] <Toba> I hear macromedia flash 7 has a security hole
[01:34] <fredforfaen> sobersabre huh?
[01:34] <bam_> oh, off subject question, cleaning up unused libraries, is there a way to do this, and how?
[01:34] <varsendagger> wait i figured it out
[01:34] <Toba> how would I upgrade that?
[01:34] <kinkoblast> xfce is nice.
[01:34] <Smaug> Stormx2 Ok, thanks anyway, I'll keep trying to get my voice heard.. ;p
[01:34] <dnB> hi, can someone let me know how to allow only certain sites for browsing? just installed edubuntu, going to be used unsupervised by children
[01:34] <dooglus> bam_: clean up unused dependancies in general with 'debfoster'
[01:35] <varsendagger> i am using xubuntu should i install gcc or just cc?
[01:35] <Stormx2> Smaug: If you don't get an answer here, try ubuntuforums.org
[01:35] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Both ;-)
[01:35] <cfa> rawtek, thanx
[01:35] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Well try gcc first.
[01:35] <Smaug> Stormx2 Ah ok. thanks I'll try that one also
[01:35] <cfa> rawtek i will try to config now, BRB
[01:35] <vincent_> so what is basically the difference in between Windows, C. Amiga and Linux? is there a small quick summary?
[01:35] <rawtek> did you suck the driver in
[01:35] <Grug> dnB - you could go through MSN or AOL - they have very good parental controls
[01:35] <bam_> thanks
[01:35] <cfa> yes
[01:35] <dnB> Grug, no way to restrict in firefox?
[01:36] <Grug> not sure...
[01:36] <dnB> hrm, dont really want to use AOL or MSN if possible
[01:36] <Smaug> Does anyone know how to switch from Gnome to textview?
[01:36] <dnB> ;)
[01:36] <Grug> don't blame you :)
[01:36] <kvidell> Smaug: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:36] <vincent_> ok I guess my question is a little too complex
[01:36] <krogoth64> huh... it works
[01:36] <kvidell> ?
[01:36] <dooglus> vincent_: Windows is an operating system, linux is a kernel, C is a programming language and amiga is a kind of computer
[01:36] <bam_> debfoster, whats the syntax on that?
[01:36] <kvidell> Alt+F7 to get bac kto X
[01:36] <varsendagger> (ctl Alt F1)
[01:36] <krogoth64> does this mean I have to leave an X session logged in so I can connect with VNC?
[01:36] <Smaug> kvidell: Thank you!
[01:36] <dnB> amiga's had kick ass games ;D
[01:36] <Stormx2> Smaug: Told you ;-)
[01:36] <kinkoblast> dooglus: What about Amiga OS?
[01:37] <Smaug> Stormx2: Hehe thanks :)
[01:37] <vincent_> but surely windows has a kernel too?
[01:37] <dooglus> vincent_: what is basically the difference between the moon, a banana and dirk bogart?
[01:37] <cfa> rawtek should i restart the network service, they dont c the A/G
[01:37] <Trab> vincent_: windows has a kernal, but its really ugly
[01:37] <dooglus> kinkoblast: amiga os is an operating system
[01:37] <vincent_> like the face of Bill Gates (50)?
[01:37] <krogoth64> Trab: you've seen it?
[01:37] <wolverian> Trab, have you seen it?
[01:37] <varsendagger> which is better open box or fluxbox
[01:37] <rawtek> cfa once you installed the driver...
[01:37] <wolverian> heh.
[01:37] <Grug> windows kernel is very well designed actually.
[01:37] <kvidell> Smaug: no problem.
[01:37] <rawtek> did you go to network tools to enable
[01:37] <krogoth64> inquiring minds want to know
[01:38] <Stormx2> Grug: BLASPHAMY!
[01:38] <Trab> seen the windows kernal?
[01:38] <vincent_> so in weekends you are allowed to stay up after 12.00 PM, no?
[01:38] <Grug> yes
[01:38] <Trab> errr kernel
[01:38] <Trab> no, but ive had far too many issues with it to love it
[01:38] <cfa> rawtek i believe i did, after i found the driver i marked it anf then applied it
[01:38] <kinkoblast> vincent_: GNU/Linux and Windows are operating systems. They comunicate between software and hardware. Windows is propritary. That means you can not look at the source code to fix problems or make copies for your friends.
[01:38] <necator> where do files go that synaptic installs?
[01:39] <rawtek> ok now the system should see the a/g but will still need to activate in network tools
[01:39] <necator> like what folder.
[01:39] <Trab> thats kinda the point
[01:39] <Trab> of a deb
[01:39] <Smaug> kvidell: I was trying to start up quake2, but it didn't work.. So what is textview good for actually?
[01:39] <dooglus> necator: all over the place, wherever they belong.
[01:39] <Trab> they are told where to go
[01:39] <Stormx2> necator: To your computer in the means of installed-ness
[01:39] <varsendagger> ok i'm currentlu running xfce on top of ubuntu-base
[01:39] <Trab> so that it works best
[01:39] <Stormx2> necator: Why?
[01:39] <necator> so how would i locate a particular file?
[01:39] <rawtek> system..administration...networking
[01:39] <Stormx2> necator: Find.
[01:39] <dooglus> necator: you can "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see what it installed for any given package
[01:39] <necator> thx
[01:39] <kinkoblast> Vincent_: GNU/Linux, on the other hand, is Free Software, meaning that you have the freedom to change, distribute, or if you so desire have sex with it.
[01:39] <varsendagger> and i just apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop
[01:39] <oskude> krogoth64, i opened my pc1 with System->Preferences->Remote Desktop, [x]  allow other users... then on PC2 type "vncviewer <ip of pc2>:"
[01:39] <varsendagger> and it is going to take an hour to finish
[01:39] <varsendagger> why?
[01:40] <cfa> rawtek, yes and the card was not there
[01:40] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Because its big?
[01:40] <Grug> lol storm
[01:40] <Grug> i just installed windows ttf fonts and everything looks great now
[01:40] <rawtek> cfa, ok then the driver is not acting right
[01:40] <necator> is there any good terminal guides out there that can teach a beginner such useful commands as what u just mentioned dooglus
[01:40] <krogoth64> I'll need to reboot this computer with no display/input attached... will vnc log me in?
[01:40] <varsendagger> well what all will i be getting?
[01:40] <Grug> love netbeans too
[01:40] <Grug> so far :)
[01:40] <oskude> krogoth64, you dont need to reboot !
[01:41] <krogoth64> lol
[01:41] <dnB> anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for 'dansguardian' or something similar for good web content filtering?
[01:41] <vincent_> sex with something recursive acronymic must be fantastic
[01:41] <krogoth64> it happens
[01:41] <rawtek> you should have clicked on windows wireless drivers...clicked add driver and then sucked the driver in from a file location
[01:41] <bam_> dooglus, how do I use debfoster?
[01:41] <krogoth64> and I need to move the computer to another room today
[01:41] <Stormx2> vincent_: Sex: Emulating X
[01:41] <Stormx2> vincent_: Now there's a damn good recursive acronym
[01:41] <oskude> krogoth64, sorry, i got it know. dunno how to automate vnc-server to be run when boot-up, sry
[01:42] <vincent_> but only the name GNU/linux is recursive, no? the OS itself is not recursive??
[01:42] <krogoth64> would I have to have it automatically log in on boot?
[01:42] <genbie> anyone using balsa or evolution here plz?
[01:42] <dooglus> bam_: just run "sudo debfoster" (once you've installed the 'debfoster' package).  it will ask you a bunch of questions about whether you want to keep certain packages.  you can say 'y' or 'n' for yes and no, or "p" to uninstall the package and all its dependancies.  it will remember your answers
[01:42] <bam_> ahh, I see
[01:42] <dooglus> bam_: then, next time you run it, it won't ask so many questions - it'll just ask about the stuff you've installed since the last time you ran it.
[01:42] <cfa> rawtek, where would i c the windows wireless card
[01:42] <bam_> doh!
[01:43] <oskude> krogoth64, do you mean the pc that you want to use through vnc has no monitor ?
[01:43] <krogoth64> yes
[01:43] <necator> o id like to apologize to everyone who had to deal with my frusteration breakdown i was imature.
[01:43] <Alakala> How do I get the drivers for radeon-3d card to work?
[01:43] <oskude> krogoth64, and you want vnc-server to start on boot ?
[01:43] <Smaug> Stormx2: Is it possible to change screendepth from 32 to 16 or something?
[01:43] <krogoth64> I'm sure it has an init script
[01:43] <necator> it was yesterday im sorry.
[01:43] <Stormx2> Smaug: Yep. "xorg-config"
[01:43] <krogoth64> ubuntu isn't THAT bad I hope
[01:43] <oskude> krogoth64, sry, never done that :)
[01:43] <dooglus> bam_: if unsure, you can answer '?' and it will show a description of the package.  or answer 's' to skip the question.  it'll ask you again next time about any you skip
[01:43] <vincent_> recursive would mean files randomly popping up on your harddisks...
[01:43] <Alakala> I'm on breezy and if I try to install em, and reboot xserver, it doesn't work.
[01:43] <rawtek> i dnot undestand
[01:43] <krogoth64> I just don't know if I have to be logged in already for vnc to connect
[01:43] <Stormx2> Smaug: Wait, thats wrong =O hang on
[01:44] <Smaug> Stormx2: Would you guide me through the process? =]
[01:44] <bam_> cool, now I can clean up all the garbage
[01:44] <oskude> krogoth64, hmm, i think so, cause vnc shows u a xwindows session...
[01:44] <steigweis> i have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?
[01:44] <cfa> rawtek where would i have clicked windows wireless card and how would i get  the drives
[01:44] <krogoth64> vnc can't just connect directly to the X server, can it?
[01:44] <dooglus> krogoth64: I've not played with ubuntu's built in vnc server yet.  I used 'x11vnc' before I found out about vino.  That allows you to connect to a running X Windows session
[01:44] <Stormx2> Smaug: Yes, once i've found the damned command.
[01:44] <Smaug> Stormx2: I am really new to linux.. I don't know how to install anything etc.. I am running quake2 through wine and stuff..
[01:44] <dooglus> krogoth64: it can - if you use x11vnc
[01:44] <krogoth64> so I could get the gdm screen?
[01:44] <cfa> rawtek, in a menu or somewhere else
[01:44] <Stormx2> Smaug: Running quake through wine is good for a new user ;-)
[01:45] <oskude> krogoth64, you mean connect to a xserver and log in as a user... dunno, sry
[01:45] <vincent_> if you do that Smaug aren't you at risk of hackers taking over your PC?
[01:45] <Smaug> Stormx2: Even tho there are a quake linux version
[01:45] <rawtek> system...  administration.... windows wireless drivers, the drivers you have to obtain with the computer
[01:45] <dooglus> krogoth64: I don't know about that.  I logged in through the gdm screen, then ran "x11vnc" as the user.
[01:45] <krogoth64> I'll have to try this out and see if it works
[01:45] <Smaug> Vincent_ what would a hacker ever find on my pc?
[01:45] <rawtek> that is what ndiswrapper is
[01:45] <dabaR> ok, aptitude just installed flash on me...
[01:45] <krogoth64> if I allow vnc sharing in the ubuntu settings, it should work every time I log in
[01:45] <rawtek> a program to install windows .inf files onlinux
[01:46] <vincent_> don't you have personal pictures and/or documents?
[01:46] <vincent_> maybe some billing info of your company?
[01:46] <Smaug> vincent_ I am totally new, this is a fresh install :)
[01:46] <steigweis> i have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?
[01:46] <Stormx2> Someone remind me how to reconfigure X :-\
[01:46] <Stormx2> I forget
[01:46] <oskude> !xcfg
[01:46] <ubotu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <Smaug> vincent_ I'm only doing it cos I dont know how to install it otherwise
[01:47] <vincent_> I'm having problems with running pdflatex, this only runs with wine?
[01:47] <cfa> ok, i get it, so get the windows wireless drives on a disk then add then by going to the admin - system - network setting
[01:47] <rawtek> cfa, I got to run for now....I will check back with you in an hour or so
[01:47] <cfa> ok
[01:47] <vincent_> does ultraedit run under linux too?
[01:48] <jorge_> Seveas: you here?
[01:48] <jorge_> Seveas: you here
[01:48] <vincent_> when text appears red does it mean people talk to me alone and not in the group?
[01:48] <|sam|> hi there, ACPI is not needed for desktops right?
[01:49] <jorge_> no, they talk to you but everyone sees it
[01:49] <jorge_> it's just so that you can see it easier
[01:49] <Stormx2> Still there, Smaug?
[01:49] <crimsun> |sam|: it can be and normally is for newer hardware
[01:49] <chopin> sorry
[01:49] <Smaug> Stormx2 yup
[01:49] <chopin> i just installed new relase of ubuntu
[01:49] <Stormx2> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <chopin> i got an error on dpkg
[01:49] <jorge_> hey guys, if I have two 40gb drives, one master, one slave, can i install windows on one and ubuntu on the other
[01:49] <Stormx2> Smaug: What did you want to change?
[01:50] <Smaug> Stormx2: There are too many colors
[01:50] <|sam|> crimsun; thx
[01:50] <wolverian> jorge_, ye
[01:50] <wolverian> s
[01:50] <jorge_> thanks
[01:50] <wolverian> (damn enter key)
[01:50] <Smaug> Stormx2: My pc is too slow for winxp, therefor I run linux
[01:50] <jorge_> cause i just did, didnt know if i'd get errors
[01:50] <Stormx2> Smaug: OK. Go through that wizard. The current option is always selected, so best keep pressing enter untill you get to the colours section
[01:50] <Smaug> Stormx2: But linux had alot of pictures also
[01:50] <vincent_> Smaug: you are from Sweden!
[01:51] <Smaug> vincent_ I know.. ;p
[01:51] <chopin> anyone experienced problems on dpkg?
[01:51] <chopin> pls
[01:51] <vincent_> Hur str det till?
[01:51] <oskude> where is the "best" reposity to find "w32codecs" ?
[01:51] <Stormx2> Smaug: You can set colour depth in that wizard
[01:51] <Smaug> vincent_ Rtt schysst
[01:51] <kinkoblast> !w32codecs
[01:51] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[01:51] <Stormx2> Smaug: Options are: 24, 16, 15, 8, 4, 1
[01:52] <vincent_> that's not good I think
[01:52] <Stormx2> Smaug: 1 bit will be black and white hehe
[01:52] <jorge_> can someone tell ubuntu to tell me about adding new repositories
[01:52] <oskude> thnx
[01:52] <jorge_> *ubotu
[01:52] <Smaug> Stormx2 What wizzard are we talking about?
[01:52] <kinkoblast> !repos
[01:52] <ubotu> I heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:52] <vincent_> Smaug guess shit?
[01:52] <jorge_> thanks
[01:52] <Smaug> vincent_ va?
[01:52] <Stormx2> Smaug: Go to terminal, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:53] <Stormx2> And press enter.
[01:53] <Sanne> jorge_: you can do: /msg ubotu questionterm
[01:53] <oskude> lol WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:53] <oskude>   w32codecs
[01:53] <Stormx2> oskude: ignore it.
[01:53] <Smaug> vincent_ Dutch?
[01:54] <vincent_> ja
[01:54] <oskude> Stormx2, but why does it say that ?
[01:54] <Smaug> vincent_ Oh, hoe is het?
[01:54] <vincent_> heel goed, dank u
[01:54] <Stormx2> oskude: You havn't configured the packages to be signed. Go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl if you are that bothered by it ;-)
[01:54] <vincent_> I've been teaching my neighbours some klaverjassen
[01:54] <Smaug> vincent_ Hehe :) Ik spreek wel een beetje nederlands hoor
[01:54] <vincent_> a classical dutch game
[01:55] <odie5533> Does python come standard with ubuntu? IE is it on the install disc?
[01:55] <Stormx2> My dutch exctends to this: "Boom Ja! Boom! Hallo!"
[01:55] <tritium> odie5533, yes
[01:55] <luca__> Hi :)
[01:55] <oskude> Stormx2, roger
[01:55] <Stormx2> luca__: hey!
[01:55] <vincent_> I would love to learn swedish and norwegian, I have two little books already from the "wat&hoe" series
[01:55] <siimo> the taskbar flashing thing has a bug for gaim in breezy :-/
[01:55] <Stormx2> vincent_: Learn japanese ;-)
[01:55] <vincent_> semeai, seki!
[01:55] <Stormx2> siimo: No. it waits for you to start typing, then goes away
[01:56] <vincent_> what the hell good does japanese do me?
[01:56] <Stormx2> vincent_: Anime is in japanese/
[01:56] <vincent_> that's like sooo far away man
[01:56] <siimo> Stormx2, , thats annoying it should wait for you to focus window and then go
[01:56] <Stormx2> siimo: I know.
[01:56] <oskude> is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ a "home" server (low download)
[01:56] <Stormx2> oskude: No idea
[01:56] <siimo> Stormx2, fixed :)
[01:56] <Stormx2> siimo: Was it in preferences?
[01:57] <vincent_> when you have had a psychose, is your life over then?
[01:57] <vincent_> do you have to wait for reincarnation before it starts getting fun again?
[01:57] <siimo> Stormx2, yah remove when conversation window gaims focus
[01:57] <siimo> lol
[01:57] <tritium> vincent_, please stay on topic
[01:57] <vincent_> sorry
[01:57] <oskude> Stormx2, but when "ubotu" says it, i hope its "trust worthy" :)
[01:58] <Stormx2> oskude: usually.
[01:58] <Stormx2> !activex
[01:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, activex is evil
[01:58] <oskude> lol
[01:58] <Stormx2> !windows
[01:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative
[01:58] <oskude> LOL
[01:58] <Stormx2> ;-) Ubuto is always right
[01:58] <Juhaz> it's just a bot, everyone can enter those descriptions
[01:58] <Stormx2> Ubotu, infact. Ack!
[01:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Stormx2
[01:58] <Smaug> Stormx2: I have done all that now
[01:59] <thoreauputic> !run
[01:59] <Smaug> Stormx2: But nothing seem to have changed
[01:59] <oskude> Juhaz, you mean even i can "reprogram" ubotu ? omg
[01:59] <Smaug> Stormx2: Do I need to reboot?
[01:59] <vincent_> Smaug how come you speak dutch?
[01:59] <dnB> i just used apt to download install a bunch of new games for my lil bro and my son, will they be automatically added to the applications list under 'games'? or is there something i must do?
[01:59] <Stormx2> Smaug: What do you mean?
[01:59] <Stormx2> Smaug: No. Save any unsaved work
[01:59] <Juhaz> oskude, you can also "reprogram" the entire wikipedia, usually it's still trustworthy :)
[01:59] <Smaug> vincent_ Ik heb in hoorn gewonen
[01:59] <Stormx2> Smaug: Then press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[01:59] <oskude> Juhaz, ok :)
[02:00] <fanopnaic> dnB: should be done automatically
[02:00] <Smaug> Stormx2 DoI need to kill xchat?
[02:00] <Stormx2> Smaug: No.
[02:00] <oskude> dnB, type "killall gnome-applet" and wait for the menu to reload, and all games with menu settings will be there
[02:00] <hyakuhei> Evening all, I installed breezy a little while ago and networking, specifcially http, is being very very flakey my laptop didnt have a problem with kanotix, but with breezy nat'd http stuff gets mangled
[02:00] <oskude> dnB, sry it was "killall gnome-panel"
[02:00] <vincent_> heb je daar stage gelopen, daar in hoorn?
[02:01] <Stormx2> !nl
[02:01] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:01] <oskude> !sf
[02:01] <ubotu> oskude: What?
[02:01] <oskude> :)
[02:01] <Stormx2> ;-)
[02:01] <oskude> sf = suomi finland :)
[02:02] <oskude> oh wait
[02:02] <vincent_> so suomi means "our"?
[02:02] <oskude> !fi
[02:02] <ubotu> I guess fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[02:02] <dnB> oskude, thank you :)
[02:02] <oskude> juhuu :)
[02:02] <oskude> dnB, your welcome
[02:02] <Grug> wow - netbeans is nice for being free
[02:02] <vincent_> smaug heb je stage gelopen in hoorn?
[02:03] <Smaug> vincent_ stage?
[02:03] <vincent_> traineeship
[02:03] <oskude> if some1 bored, watch demoscene.tv (hq channel) with me :)
[02:03] <Grug> hey guys, any other good irc channels for linux enthusiasts?
[02:03] <Smaug> Stormx2: My screenresolution changed drasticly
[02:03] <raphink> Grug: #kubuntu ? :)
[02:03] <Smaug> vincent_ I don't know :x
[02:03] <Grug> lol
[02:03] <oskude> !demoscene.tv
[02:04] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, oskude
[02:04] <raphink> Grug: #debutant if you speak french ;)
[02:04] <Grug> ok... what is the config file to change color bit depth in my current resolution?
[02:04] <dooglus> oskude: it seems to require activex?
[02:05] <oskude> hmm, mplayer freezed
[02:05] <dooglus> Grug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <vincent_> so in australia it is 14:00 now?
[02:05] <raphink> Grug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <Grug> tx
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, copy the link and open in mplayer
[02:05] <raphink> argh too late !
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2?
[02:05] <dooglus> oskude: I'm on an XP box atm
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, they use nullsoft video format (should be in w32codecs)
[02:05] <siimo> vincent_, depends on where
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, get winamp player
[02:05] <moshe> how do I change the default display manager?
[02:05] <Smaug> s
[02:05] <moshe> I remember reading it can be done with a dpkg-reconfigure, but I can't remember exactly
[02:05] <Stormx2> Smaug: It did?
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2: Hehe
[02:05] <raphink> what is your current manager moshe ?
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2: I only have 3 resolutions to choose between now
[02:05] <dooglus> oskude: how can I find the link?
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, sec
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2: And the colors look funny ^^
[02:06] <dooglus> oskude: I'm using IE, but it's all in Czech, so I can't even find "open page source" or whatever
[02:06] <siimo> vincent_, actually its 1400 in new zealand, in australia EDT is 1200 now
[02:06] <moshe> raphael, kdm
[02:06] <Stormx2> Smaug: Run that wizard again and add the other resolution. Mind that some resolutions and colour depths are incompatible
[02:06] <moshe> I want to switch to gdm and see how I like it.
[02:06] <raphink> moshe: and you want it to gdm ?
[02:06] <raphink> ok
[02:06] <Stormx2> dooglus: lmao.
[02:06] <oskude> dooglus, paste this to mplayer/winamp: http://mirror.zonart.net:8018/listen.pls
[02:06] <raphink> then you can use dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:06] <Smaug> Stormx2: Can I have that commandline again please?
[02:06] <Smaug> Stormx2: Everything died
[02:06] <raphink> for example
[02:06] <Stormx2> Smaug: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <bob2> vincent_: ' TZ=Australia/Sydney date', in a terminal
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> In which directory are mysql databases stored on ubuntu?
[02:07] <bob2> C_J_Pro: /var/lib/mysql, I'd assume
[02:07] <Smaug> Stormx2: Thanks alot for your help
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: the kdm postinstall script grants you what DM you want to use
[02:07] <moshe> won't that just reconfigure kdm if I issue that command?
[02:07] <bob2> C_J_Pro: dpkg -L mysql-server | grep var
[02:07] <moshe> oic
[02:07] <Stormx2> Smaug: I hope i did help at all ;-) Anyway, good night all. Its 1 am here!
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: choosing a dm is not really a matter of whether you like it or not
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> >_<
[02:07] <Stormx2> !ie
[02:07] <ubotu> hmm... ie is Aye boyo! Head on over t' the #ubuntu-ie channel
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: it's rather a matter of what DE you use the most
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> Accidentally ran a rm -rf / when I mean rm -rf ./*
[02:07] <moshe> raphael, well, I use xfce
[02:07] <fanopnaic> oskude: fun, in vlc I don't have video, in xine I don't have sound, in mplayer I have both :) (with that demoscene.tv thingie)
[02:07] <moshe> :)
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: then use xdm
[02:07] <bob2> C_J_Pro: you're probably screwed then
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> stopped it quickly, and I need to recover the mysql databases
[02:08] <oskude> fanopnaic, :)
[02:08] <moshe> but my wife uses kde
[02:08] <vincent_> so linux has no
[02:08] <vincent_>
[02:08] <vincent_>
[02:08] <vincent_>  signs in its ascii table
[02:08] <raphink> moshe: then keep kdm
[02:08] <moshe> and xdm doesn't let you choose sessions
[02:08] <_jason> has anyone here been able to setup horizontal scroll on their mouse (or at least get the tilt buttons to genereate different button numbers in xev than other buttons on the mouse)?
[02:08] <moshe> I want to see what gdm is like.
[02:08] <tarheelcoxn> C_J_Pro: respect the root!
[02:08] <raphink> moshe: there's no point at all in using gdm if you use xfce and your wife uses kde
[02:08] <oskude> fanopnaic, that demoscene.tv uses a nullsoft (closed) video format, and with mplayer it works with the w32codecs...
[02:08] <someotherguy> Hello.
[02:08] <raphink> moshe: you can launche gdm from console without having to set it as default
[02:08] <siimo> moshe, why dont you just switch to terminal kill kdm and load gdm =) if all you want to do is see what gdm is like
[02:09] <raphink> *lauch
[02:09] <moshe> heh
[02:09] <moshe> ok fine
[02:09] <moshe> thanks
[02:09] <raphink> that's what I was about to propose siimo  :)
[02:09] <someotherguy> Can anyone help me?
[02:09] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: just ask your question
[02:09] <someotherguy> Word.
[02:09] <raphink> with word? no way :p
[02:09] <oskude> :)
[02:10] <raphink> well depends
[02:10] <raphink> if it's kwork then yes
[02:10] <raphink> ;)
[02:10] <raphink> kword
[02:10] <raphink> I'm getting tired :(
[02:10] <oskude> for linux you need atleas double-word :)
[02:10] <raphink> thanks tarheelcoxn
[02:10] <dooglus> oskude: do you know if winamp 3 is available somewhere?  winamp 5 sucks
[02:10] <raphink> I think I shall go to bed rather though tarheelcoxn
[02:10] <someotherguy> I just installed breezy from one of the pressed cd's on an old p2-500mhz, with 256 megs of ram. It installed alright, but now when it's booting, when gnome tries to load I get a black screen and I get a Long-short-short-short beep code.
[02:10] <LathropWells> I Love Ubuntu!
[02:11] <oskude> dooglus, dunno. and dunno if winamp3 has the video codec...
[02:11] <someotherguy> I guess the question is "wtf?"
[02:11] <ubuntu> waaaaaaaaa
[02:11] <ubuntu> hello
[02:11] <oskude> LathropWells, me too :)
[02:11] <ubuntu> mother fockers
[02:11] <ubuntu> xd
[02:12] <raphink> hmm
[02:12] <raphink> interesting point of view on life
[02:12] <necator> oskude what video codec do you need?
[02:12] <raphink> too late thoreauputic
[02:12] <oskude> oh, the next demo is hard, but nice
[02:12] <Korio> how do i get XDM to work in ubuntu?
[02:12] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you might try a server install
[02:12] <thoreauputic> raphael: indeed
[02:12] <oskude> necator, none, why u ask ?
[02:12] <rawtek> cfa, how are things coming
[02:12] <raphink> Korio: you install it
[02:12] <Korio> raphink, o rly? well it doesnt start
[02:12] <necator> oskude i heard you say something about you and dooglus dont know if winamp had the codec.
[02:12] <someotherguy> Is the p2 too gutless to run it full install?
[02:12] <necator> oskude so i was curious what you were trying to do i might be able to help.
[02:12] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: when you boot from the pressed CD, type "server" at the prompt
[02:12] <jorge_> how can I make it so my icons are automatically organized
[02:12] <raphink> Korio: then you dpkg-reconfigure it
[02:12] <fanopnaic> oskude: ah ok, I forgot to register the codecs after installing gstreamer-pitfdll. now it works in xine too (didn't know that xine uses gstreamer anyway)... vlc still a no go (only uses its own codecs methinks)
[02:12] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: it might run xubuntu nicely
[02:12] <oskude> necator, the nullsoft video codec, forgot the name
[02:13] <Korio> raphink, that only re-installs it... i have always had this problem with ubuntu
[02:13] <LathropWells> Beeep- beep beep beep!     here is the link http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm
[02:13] <necator> oskude do you have winamp?
[02:13] <jorge_> how can I install gdm themes, the ones where you log in
[02:13] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do the server install and then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[02:13] <kinkoblast> !winvlin
[02:13] <Korio> raphael, you must be the smartest kid on the block..
[02:13] <raphink> hmm how about dpkg-reconfigure gdm Korio ?
[02:13] <necator> oskude xmms is like a linux clone of winamp its worth a try.
[02:13] <Smaug> !winvlin
[02:13] <Korio> raphink, *
[02:13] <jorge_> how can I install a gdm theme (login theme)
[02:13] <raphink> Korio: :p it's late here :p
[02:13] <Korio> raphael, i dont have gdm
[02:13] <Korio> raphink ;p
[02:14] <someotherguy> It's either a memory failure, or a graphics failure...despite the fact that it was happily running xp a few hours ago.
[02:14] <oskude> necator, i have it working (demoscene.tv) on mplayer, the question was if winamp3 (on windows) has the video codec...
[02:14] <Smaug> If I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?
[02:14] <tarheelcoxn> tarheelcoxn: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <tarheelcoxn> err
[02:14] <kinkoblast> I wrote a parageaph into Ubotu. Check it out at winvlin. Ignore the last bit, I had to make some sort of joke.
[02:14] <necator> oskude ah i  c.
[02:14] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <LathropWells> Realplayer must be run as root? - is there a lib that totem can use for ram  pl  streams?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> jorge_: you just drag it onto the login customising dialogue ( see system admin in menu)
[02:14] <oskude> jorge_, System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[02:15] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: It doesn't seem to want to let me boot at all.
[02:15] <jorge_> thanks
[02:15] <necator> jorge_ go to system > administrator > login screen setup
[02:15] <thoreauputic> jorge_: Login Screen Setup
[02:15] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: o.0
[02:15] <necator> beat me too it oskude :p
[02:15] <Smaug> If I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?
[02:15] <oskude> necator, :)
[02:15] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: can you boot from the CD again?
[02:15] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Well, it'll boot, but right after it finishes loading and before it goes into x, the screen goes black and it gives me the beeps.
[02:15] <tarheelcoxn> or from the liveCD?
[02:15] <switchcat> im installing server ubuntu.. and have the three kernels to choose from, how do i know which to choose?
[02:15] <someotherguy> someotherguy: Yes, I can.
[02:15] <bob2> switchcat: the default
[02:15] <sunshine82> im meant to have a folder called usr/src/linux but the linux file is unknow how do i get another linux file
[02:15] <someotherguy> Eerrrr
[02:15] <jorge_> how can i install a splash screen
[02:15] <bob2> if you have no idea, use the default
[02:15] <thoreauputic> someotherguy: beeps suggest hardware issues
[02:15] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Yes, I can.
[02:16] <oskude> jorge_, and then the "themed greeter" tab, just click "install new theme" and select the downloaded file
[02:16] <raphink> switchcat: what is your proc?
[02:16] <LathropWells> Smaug - nah - you can toggle from new res using ctrl+alt+numpad + or numpad -
[02:16] <bob2> sunshine82: what are you trying to do?
[02:16] <switchcat> pIII i think
[02:16] <necator> system > prerfences > splash screen jorge_
[02:16] <potus> does anyone have any idea why my ssh daemon is dropping the connection as soon as i enter a username? (openssh-server)?
[02:16] <someotherguy> I'll go re-seat my ram and video card...you never know.
[02:16] <raphink> switchcat: and what choice are you given?
[02:16] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do you know what single-user mode is?
[02:16] <potus> yet i can use the same username for ftp.
[02:16] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Nope.
[02:16] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: okay... then just re-install
[02:16] <Smaug> Lathropwells: I wanted to change screendepth, and I did. But then my screenresolution went huge, and I want my old back, and I don't know wich one that was
[02:16] <tarheelcoxn> using "server" at the first prompt
[02:16] <dooglus> this is a little offtopic - but does anyone know where I might find an everquest IRC channel?
[02:16] <necator> afk
[02:16] <dnB> can someone help me out? im trying to setup iptables, using a tutorial that says to type "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables" however that isnt working
[02:17] <jorge_> necator: i dont have splashscreen under preferences
[02:17] <switchcat> linux-386 image-386 and umage 2.6-12.9 -386
[02:17] <sunshine82> bob2 im tryin to set up my ebcam this the site im using http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO.html
[02:17] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: When I first got the cds, I booted off the live cd and it gave me this problem, but I figured installing the full install would fix it.
[02:17] <switchcat> er image too
[02:17] <bob2> dnB: that tutorial is for redhat
[02:17] <raphink> oh yeah right
[02:17] <bob2> dnB: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz
[02:17] <sunshine82> bob2 my webcam
[02:17] <raphink> switchcat: I usually choose linux-386
[02:17] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: That's why I'm not led to believe that re-installing it would make a difference.
[02:17] <dnB> bob2, you dont know the correct command for it?
[02:17] <fanopnaic> switchcat: take linux-386
[02:17] <LathropWells> Smaug - you can use what you like and edit away the rest.
[02:17] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you may have a problem with Xorg
[02:17] <raphink> it doesn't really matter anyway
[02:18] <dnB> ok thanks bob2 ill go rtfm ;)
[02:18] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you'll likely have to tinker to get any gui to work properly
[02:18] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: any other gui's I could boot to installed by default?
[02:18] <switchcat> what ARE the other ones for?
[02:18] <oskude> !ubotu
[02:18] <fanopnaic> I must say the video quality of this nullsoft video thing is quite good considering it only consumes 1Mbps
[02:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:18] <Smaug> Lathropwells: I don't know wich one I liked
[02:18] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: perhaps kde?
[02:18] <kinkoblast> Is there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?
[02:18] <Smaug> Lathropwells: Before it went like this
[02:18] <dooglus> dnB: dnB what error so you see?
[02:18] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: very doubtful
[02:18] <LathropWells> dooglus - google ircspy.com or .net i don't remember
[02:18] <potus> Anyone got any idea about my ssh problem?  drops connection after entering a valid username?
[02:18] <Smaug> Lathropwells: But will it be OK if I choose to incklude them all?
[02:18] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: it'll be easier for us (or someone else) to help you if you can first get an install working
[02:18] <bob2> sunshine82: what chipset does it have?
[02:19] <bob2> potus: can you ssh from localhost on that machine?
[02:19] <Grug> my god - it is incredibly difficult to simply install an nvidia driver
[02:19] <thoreauputic> tarheelcoxn: 500mhz 256MB should handle gnome OK ( not fast but OK)
[02:19] <Grug> this could take a while :)
[02:19] <potus> bob2: cant tell now. i rebooted by ssh. now i cant sshback in..  altho the ftp and webserver are up.
[02:19] <Smaug> Grug, I got it from a selfinstalling package, just for ubuntu
[02:19] <Grug> yeah?
[02:19] <potus> the ssh comes up login: once i enter anything it just disconnects me.. without prompting for password.
[02:19] <Smaug> Grug: Yeah, I'm totally new to linux
[02:19] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do you get a login prompt after the beeping?
[02:19] <Grug> where did you get it?
[02:19] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: or do you just get nothing?
[02:19] <kinkoblast> Is there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?
[02:19] <LathropWells> Smaug - Smaug - you can but i would be conservative - some monitoers (mine included) hate anything above 1280X1024
[02:19] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Nah, it just freezes.
[02:20] <Smaug> Grug: I got it from a link from ubuntu website
[02:20] <sunshine82> bob2 divio n802
[02:20] <Grug> ok
[02:20] <Grug> thanks
[02:20] <someotherguy> The little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.
[02:20] <dooglus> LathropWells: it looks like ircspy.com is for finding files available on IRC, not for finding channels
[02:20] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: The little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.
[02:20] <thoreauputic> kinkoblast: please don't repeat - have you looked at xfce.look.org or whatever it's called ?
[02:20] <Smaug> Lathropwells, but it won't burn up will it?
[02:20] <LathropWells> dooglus - nah it is the best thing on the net for irc channels even company info
[02:20] <bob2> potus: have you touched anyssh settings at all, on the client or server?
[02:21] <kinkoblast> thoeauputic: Um... a little more specific?
[02:21] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: I'll go re-seat the ram and the video card, just to be sure it's not just being retarded.
[02:21] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: fair enough
[02:21] <LathropWells> Smaug - accepting the defaults is usually 1024X768 and that should be okayy for even the oldest monitors.
[02:21] <oskude> ubotu demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode
[02:21] <ubotu> oskude: okay
[02:22] <oskude> !demoscene.tv
[02:22] <ubotu> hmm... demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode
[02:22] <potus> bob2: idk maybe apt-get did on all this advanture of installing ISPConfig.    what would likely be the  cause/file?
[02:22] <oskude> hehe :)
[02:22] <Smaug> Lathropwells: That is what I use now. but everything is huge
[02:22] <bob2> potus: ispconfig soundslike some cpanel-like monstrosity, yes?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> kinkoblast: start here I guess http://www.xfce.org/index.php
[02:22] <LathropWells> smaug - if you are still concerned FCC.GOV aand the FCC ID# from the back panel will give you specs if the manufacturer isn't easy to find.
[02:22] <wondering> does anyone here have kdevelop "designer" crash as soon as you try to open it?
[02:23] <wondering> I can get all of the other Kdevelop apps to open fine
[02:23] <bob2> sunshine82: 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)', in a terminal
[02:23] <wondering> but not designer
[02:23] <sunshine82> bob2 any ideas
[02:23] <bob2> wondering: #kubuntu may no more
[02:23] <LathropWells> Smaug - what happens with ctrl+alt+   numpad +
[02:23] <bob2> er, know
[02:23] <potus> bob2: a webbased one, yes; i stopped it.. took program outta contrab. and rebooted.
[02:23] <Smaug> Lathropwells: Ok, I'll try figure it out.. Thanks alot for your help!
[02:23] <wondering> good point bob2
[02:23] <oskude> !bill
[02:23] <ubotu> oskude: Are you on ritalin?
[02:23] <wondering> but I am runing it in Ubuntu
[02:23] <Korio> is the universe for breezy up and running now?
[02:23] <oskude> !gates
[02:23] <ubotu> oskude: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:23] <wondering> with just the dependencies installed
[02:23] <oskude> lol
[02:23] <wondering> no kubuntu desktop
[02:23] <LathropWells> Samuag - we are here to help 24/7
[02:23] <wondering> brb
[02:24] <oskude> !software_patent
[02:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, oskude
[02:24] <sunshine82> bob2 that done
[02:24] <oskude> :)
[02:24] <LathropWells> I love Ubuntu!  - (oops did i say that already?)
[02:24] <Smaug> Lathropwells: Thanks :)
[02:24] <Grug> wait till you try and install nvidia drivers :)
[02:24] <potus> i got an idea
[02:24] <myrth_> hi
[02:24] <Smaug> grug wait
[02:24] <potus> apt-get remove openssh-server
[02:24] <oskude> roger
[02:24] <potus> apt-get install openssh-server
[02:24] <potus> should fix =)
[02:24] <dabaR> LathropWells: you are where 24/7?
[02:24] <JasonOfEarth> hey does anyone know what package contains the X11 file flipped_gray? Or how to find out?
[02:24] <bob2> sunshine82: then the driver should compile
[02:25] <Aurora> i love ubuntu too but why is apache giving me forbidden messages!
[02:25] <myrth_> i've just installed ubuntu on my laptop :)
[02:25] <potus> bob2: sound right?
[02:25] <bob2> JasonOfEarth: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <glick> hey what does it mean in bittorrent when there are 0 seeders?
[02:25] <bob2> Aurora: when doing what?
[02:25] <bob2> glick: that no one currently active has the whole file
[02:25] <myrth_> how do i install KDE?
[02:25] <Aurora> trying to request any page through it
[02:25] <glick> ok thanks bob2
[02:25] <JasonOfEarth> excellent thanks bob2
[02:25] <bob2> glick: people may have enough non-overlapping parts spread amongst the rest to reconstruct it, tho
[02:25] <dooglus> glick: it means that nobody has the whole file.
[02:25] <Aurora> i configured it to use a folder in my homedir as a document root
[02:25] <bob2> myrth_: install kubuntu-desktop
[02:25] <bob2> Aurora: that's silly
[02:25] <LathropWells> dabaR -  i meant #ubuntu        dabaR of course is here more than anyone else.
[02:25] <bob2> Aurora: but the issue is probably that you didn't set o=rx permissions on every dir between / and your doc root
[02:25] <dabaR> LathropWells: read me in one line, eh?
[02:25] <myrth_> err.. what's default password for root?
[02:26] <Aurora> hmm, okay
[02:26] <raphink> there's no default passwd for root myrth_
[02:26] <raphink> myrth_: by default the root account is not activated
[02:26] <dabaR> myrth_: its your password
[02:26] <sunshine82> bob2 i wish it was that easy im getinn this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4451
[02:26] <oskude> myrth_, sudo ask your password
[02:26] <bob2> myrth_: wiki.ubuntu/com/RootSudo
[02:26] <Aurora> i dont see why it needs +x and stuff on parent dirs of the doc root though
[02:26] <myrth_> su - without password says authentication failure, and also default user password doesn't work
[02:26] <bob2> Aurora: ok, but that's the way it is
[02:26] <dnB> anyone know how i can get a new default squid.conf?
[02:27] <raphink> !tell myrth_ about sudo
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: I have this package: "automatix-ubuntu_v3.1.1.tar.gz"
[02:27] <dooglus> Aurora: if a directory doesn't have +x, it can't be opened
[02:27] <bob2> myrth_: the installer did explain this to you
[02:27] <Aurora> nope, the permissions are set
[02:27] <Grug> thankx smaug
[02:27] <bob2> dnB: lessone #1: backup config files before touching them
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: But I couldn't find it while searching for it :x
[02:27] <dachnaz_> Hello.
[02:27] <Seveas> Grug, you'd better throw that out befoure you wreck your system with it
[02:27] <thoreauputic> kinkoblast: a bit of googling found this >>  http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/gdm-xfce/
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: But it is ther somewhere :x
[02:27] <dnB> bob2, definitely :P
[02:27] <Grug> either could i...
[02:27] <dachnaz_> Quick question. ^^
[02:27] <bob2> dnB: also, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends squid ; sudo apt-get install squid
[02:27] <Grug> yeah i'm gonna give up on drivers for a while :)
[02:27] <dnB> bob2, thanks ;)
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: Hehe ;)
[02:27] <Seveas> Smaug, I mean
[02:27] <bob2> Aurora: what is your docroot set at?
[02:27] <Grug> it's not like windows one-click setup.exe
[02:27] <Grug> :)
[02:27] <dachnaz_> How do I change the root password or sudo or login as root?
[02:27] <Smaug> Seveas: What?
[02:27] <LathropWells> suk, - software patents - jeez was reading that amazon.com got a patent for "one click ordering."  - no idea if they are going to enforce it or just keep it away from patent trolls
[02:27] <Seveas> Smaug, don't use automatix
[02:28] <Seveas> it's just another crappy script
[02:28] <thoreauputic> !tell dachnaz_ about root
[02:28] <dabaR> Grug: mostly if you ave to insatll a driver in windows, teh installation is not one click.
[02:28] <Smaug> Seveas: Why? It's my lifesaviour :)
[02:28] <lizardcry> where can i get kernel 2.6.13 for ubuntu 5.10?
[02:28] <Kman^> !tell Kman^ about root
[02:28] <dabaR> Grug: why do you always refer windows?
[02:28] <Aurora> eek
[02:28] <bob2> dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:28] <Grug> well, i've never seen otherwise dabar... you have advice for installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu?
[02:28] <Seveas> then don't come whining when it screws over your system
[02:28] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: any luck?
[02:28] <bob2> lizardcry: you can't, simply
[02:28] <bob2> lizardcry: why do you want it?
[02:28] <Smaug> Seveas: Please..
[02:28] <bob2> Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <LathropWells> lol@Seaveas
[02:28] <sunshine82> bob2 what u think
[02:29] <Grug> ahhh - thanks bob - i'll check it out
[02:29] <codecaine> can someone tell me how my VOIP device behind my netgear router is receiving phone calls when I don't have any port forwarding in the router for it, how does this work?
[02:29] <Smaug> Seveas: I got it from ubuntuforums
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, I believe I would then be able to run ubuntu on my amd64.
[02:29] <Seveas> Smaug, that does not mean it does not suck
[02:29] <dachnaz_> Ah ha. That makes sense. Thankee.
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, it freezes hard
[02:29] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Nope, it goes through all the module initialization and everything, with the progress bar and such, then the screen clears to the flashing underscore in the top left, it flashes a few times, then freezes and starts beeping.
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, fresh install
[02:29] <necator> what is metacity? does ubuntu breezy have it? i see it mentioned on gnome-look.or
[02:29] <Seveas> there's a lot of crap on the forums
[02:29] <bob2> lizardcry: does trying noapic/nolapic/acpi=off help? (kernel boot options)
[02:29] <Smaug> Seveas: But I'm totally new to linux. I'm sorry if I use something you don't like. But I trusted the people at ubuntuforums
[02:29] <bob2> necator: yes, it's the default window manager for gnome
[02:29] <Aurora> bob2,  DocumentRoot    /home/aurora/Projects/
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, did that
[02:29] <Seveas> there's good stuff too, but you need to be careful
[02:29] <codecaine> window manager
[02:29] <bob2> necator: ie it draws window borders
[02:29] <JasonOfEarth> bob2 is my hero!
[02:29] <bob2> lizardcry: even all 3 doesn't help?
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, i'm on gentoo now
[02:30] <thoreauputic> necator: it's the default underlying window manager for gnome
[02:30] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: can you type CTRL+ALT+F2 and get a prompt?
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, I swear. I did ALL 3
[02:30] <bob2> Aurora: and the output of 'ls -ld /home/{,aurora/{,Projects}}' to #flood
[02:30] <dachnaz_> Here's another pop quiz: Where can I find SSHD? Or is there a better way to access this from another location?
[02:30] <Fr0Gs> where do i get the latest worken fglrx drives
[02:30] <bob2> lizardcry: how odd
[02:30] <Fr0Gs> where do i get the latest worken fglrx drivers
[02:30] <someotherguy> Should I try it while it's initializing, or right now while it's frozen?
[02:30] <bob2> dachnaz_: install the openssh-server package
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, it's making me ill at my stomach
[02:30] <oskude> ubout tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[02:30] <LathropWells> JasonOfEarth, - yep mine too there are some great people here,
[02:30] <necator> so changing my "metacity" would change how my folders look?
[02:30] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: right now
[02:30] <bob2> Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[02:30] <bob2> necator: no, window borders
[02:30] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: k, brb
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, i have an ati 9800
[02:30] <tarheelcoxn> dachnaz_: openssh-server
[02:30] <bob2> lizardcry: that shouldn't matter
[02:31] <Korio> which repos do i need to ad to get mplayer?
[02:31] <necator> so metacity and gtk 2.x then do the same thing?
[02:31] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Yes, it gave me a login prompt.
[02:31] <bob2> lizardcry: you've compiled a kernel from scratch before?
[02:31] <Seveas> !forget demoscene.tv
[02:31] <ubotu> i forgot demoscene.tv, Seveas
[02:31] <bob2> necator: no
[02:31] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: that's a good sign.
[02:31] <micropa1> I'm trying to do a multiseat install with the newest ubuntu, however nothing happens when I press enter on the "configure a multiseat system" in the installer. Any tips?
[02:31] <lizardcry> bob2, similar probs in gentoo, but disappeared after upgrade to 2.6.13 kernel
[02:31] <bob2> necator: I keep saying, "window borders", you keep hearing "widgets"
[02:31] <LathropWells> korio - univers community supported
[02:31] <lizardcry> bob2, gentoo ... i compile everythinh
[02:31] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you have a problem with xorg
[02:31] <necator> bob2 im new at all this i dont really knwo the terms of differences of any of it :p
[02:31] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: login at that login prompt
[02:31] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: brb
[02:32] <dachnaz_> bob2: Where can I find this package?
[02:32] <bob2> necator: window borders = window title bar, border, resize handles, etc
[02:32] <Korio> LathropWells, weird I have that one enabled and yet i dont see mplayer
[02:32] <dnB> does anyone know how i can do the equivalent to "chkconfig squid on"
[02:32] <bob2> necator: widgets = buttons, text in the window, file selection screens, etc
[02:32] <necator> so gtk does widgets?
[02:32] <bob2> dachnaz_: you've never installed a package in ubuntu?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Korio:  multiverse
[02:32] <necator> and metacity does borders
[02:32] <tarheelcoxn> dachnaz_: adept
[02:32] <bob2> dachnaz_: squid runs by default when installed
[02:32] <bob2> necator: more or less
[02:32] <sunshine82> bob2 what u think
[02:32] <Korio> thoreauputic, got that too
[02:32] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-386
[02:32] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: There, logged in.
[02:32] <necator> do either of those control icons?
[02:32] <dnB> bob2, thanks ;)
[02:32] <Grug> So video drivers seem very difficult to install... is it any easier to install Audigy 2 drivers?
[02:32] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[02:33] <bob2> sunshine82: looks like the driver itself is broken
[02:33] <LathropWells> thoreauputic, - mplayer is non-free?
[02:33] <bob2> Grug: video drivers are trivial
[02:33] <funkyHat> necator, no
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Korio: apt-cache search mplayer
[02:33] <funkyHat> necator, that's nautilus
[02:33] <dachnaz_> No, bob2, never installed one on Ubuntu.
[02:33] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: now cd /var/log
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Lathiat: I assume it's about codecs etc
[02:33] <bob2> Korio: it's in multiverse, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:33] <andreiutz> hello
[02:33] <bob2> dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:33] <Korio> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[02:33] <Korio> thats what i find
[02:33] <andreiutz> what is the root passwd for the ubuntu live cd ??
[02:33] <thoreauputic> oops LathropWells that was fro you not Lathiat
[02:33] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: done.
[02:33] <Grug> trivial?  compiling and interface to the kernel is trivial?  wow... now I'm *really* afraid to ask about sound drivers lol
[02:33] <Seveas> andreiutz, there is none
[02:33] <Aurora> bob2, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/427294
[02:33] <Seveas> !tell andreiutz about root
[02:34] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: ls should show you that there's a log for Xorg
[02:34] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Irritatingly enough the computer is in the other room, so I have to keep running around.
[02:34] <bob2> Aurora: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:34] <bob2> Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <dnB> when typing "sudo squid restart" i get the msg "/etc/dansguardian/languages" any ideas? :P
[02:34] <bob2> Grug: installing them doesn't require any compilation
[02:34] <dachnaz_> bob2, Thanks.
[02:34] <dnB> woops
[02:34] <dnB> "squid already running"
[02:35] <bob2> dnB: do you mean 'sudo invoke-rc.d squid restart' or 'sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart'?
[02:35] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: in that case, what you want to do is this:
[02:35] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > xorg.log
[02:35] <bob2> Aurora: guess we need the end of apache2' error.log and your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[02:35] <dnB> bob2, lol i have no idea
[02:35] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: then post xorg.log somewhere where we can see it
[02:35] <bob2> dnB: the command you gave will more or less do nothing useful
[02:35] <Korio> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse i have that in sources.list and yet i cant find mplayer
[02:35] <bob2> dnB: either of the ones I mentioned will restarts
[02:36] <bob2> Korio: get rid of that, for a start
[02:36] <Aurora> where would error.log be?
[02:36] <dnB> bob2, thanks again, you help helpful man
[02:36] <Korio> bob2,  why?
[02:36] <bob2> Korio: then actually read the page I pointed you at, and enable the universe repository
[02:36] <bob2> er, multivser
[02:36] <Grug> well i guess i'm going to try that link bob - thanks
[02:36] <bob2> dnB: np
[02:36] <Aurora> and whats rootsudo got to do with anything?
[02:36] <bob2> Aurora: /var/log/apache2/
[02:36] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Well, it said access denied, which makes me assume I have to su first.
[02:36] <bob2> Aurora: that would be me sucking, sorry
[02:36] <Aurora> ahh
[02:36] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: before you go
[02:36] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Also, how could I post it?
[02:36] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do you have a webspace to post it to?
[02:36] <someotherguy> Yup
[02:37] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: perfect
[02:37] <krogoth64> do the default packages for the dhcp and bind servers chroot them?
[02:37] <Korio> bob2, that link was for warty, and i dont run gnome
[02:37] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: upload xorg.log to your webspace
[02:37] <bob2> krogoth64: bind9, yes, dunno about dhcp (there's more than one of them)
[02:37] <bob2> Korio: awesome
[02:37] <bob2> Korio: #kubuntu, I guess (and it' snot just for warty)
[02:37] <Korio> bob2, i run xfce..
[02:37] <necator> awww
[02:38] <necator> i found this really nice icon package on gnome-look.org
[02:38] <bob2> Korio: then presumably you know how to use aptitude or apt
[02:38] <necator> but the download dont work.
[02:38] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: I don't believe the network connection on that computer is working right.
[02:38] <necator> just my luck
[02:38] <krogoth64> the dhcp3-server package?
[02:38] <dachnaz_> Alright. Thanks!! ^^
[02:38] <Korio> bob2, yes?
[02:38] <krogoth64> it doesn't look like the init script does it
[02:38] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: But I'll hack away at it and hope for the best.
[02:38] <bob2> Korio: so read /etc/apt/sources.list and tell it to enable multiverse (the file explains how)
[02:38] <kinkoblast> What's everyone's favorite windowmanager? Mine's xfce.
[02:38] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: I recommend joining #xorg
[02:38] <bob2> krogoth64: I don't think it does, no
[02:38] <Aurora> bob2, oh duh, i forgot to change the permissions of the .htaccesses, dang hidden files, thanks for your help i think i can figure it from here :)
[02:38] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: thanks for all your help, I'll be back.
[02:38] <Korio> bob2, well thats what I did before I even came to this channel
[02:38] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: best of luck!
[02:38] <bob2> kinkoblast: ion3.
[02:38] <bob2> Korio: if you had, mplayer would be available