[13:56] <esb> exia_:  If it's 1080p you trying to play it might be slow. I suggest you use SMplayer and activate multi threaded decoding and allow frame drop (x.264 only)
[13:56] <vise> lol
[13:57] <imsantoso_> help, anyone use skype
[13:57] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: what about in recovery mode from grub?
[13:57] <bamball> esb: does 9.04 mplayer come with multi-threaded support by default?
[13:57] <exia_> esb, but i played such videos earlier in windows using the kmplayer %)
[13:57] <kerimbasol> What will you do with grub ?
[13:57] <exia_> esb, if i use smplayer it doesnt allow me to jump over the MKV
[13:57] <exia_> esb, but it works perfect in it, but VLC lags
[13:58] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: I mean the recovery option that ubuntu adds to grub, doesn't that put you in single user mode?
[13:58] <esb> exia_: It should be just the same as mplayer.
[13:58] <esb> bamball: I don't know.. I only use SMplayer. It' probably the same though
[13:58] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: I know recovery mode of grub.I can fix my boot solutions with a live or rescue cd
[13:59] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: and then rewrite grub with my own configuration
[13:59] <ethanol> is there a good tutorial/faq somewhere on automounting an smb share from a network machine?
[13:59] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: I can't boot from an image/cd, it's a VPS/virtual machine with no ability to upload/specify an image to boot from
[13:59] <bamball> esb: I had to download the source to build a version which has multi-threaded support in 8.10.. dun want to do this again after upgrade...
[13:59] <kerimbasol> ethanol: I can send an example about automount
[14:00] <ethanol> that would be swell too. pastebin perhaps?
[14:00] <exia_> esb, well okay frame drop is allowed in smplayer but
[14:00] <esb> bamball: Use SMplayer and you'll have it included
[14:00] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: instert iso image and boot with it
[14:00] <exia_> esb, but i still cant find that multi threaded encoding
[14:01] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: read what I just wrote, I can't boot from anything other than the installed OS (ubuntu 9.04)
[14:01] <kerimbasol> /<IP_ADDRESS>/backup   /network/linksys/backup cifs    username=administrator,password=secret 0 0
[14:01] <esb> under settings and preformance
[14:01] <kerimbasol> ethanol: this is fstab
[14:01] <kerimbasol> ethanol: ok ?
[14:01] <ethanol> cifs is for samba?
[14:01] <bamball> esb: I dun think so.. SMplayer is just a front-end to call the mplayer binary.. i tried b4 on 8.10, didn't really use more than 100% cpu until i point my mplayer binary to the custom build one (i use smplayer too)
[14:02] <dbugger> hi guys!
[14:02] <kerimbasol>  //<IP_ADDRESS>/backup   /network/linksys/backup cifs    username=administrator,password=secret 0 0
[14:02] <kerimbasol> ethanol : this correct
[14:02] <esb> exia_: ... set Threads for decoding (MPEG-1/2 and H.264).. set it to more than 1... I use the same as the amount of processor-cores
[14:02] <kerimbasol> ethanol: yes cifs for samba you can use smbfs instead of it
[14:02] <dbugger> Let's see if you can help me with this. Im quite rusty on me shell skills... If I have 3 commands, say cmd1, cmd2 and cmd3, and I want to run cmd2 after cmd1, but I dont want to wait for them to finnish to do cmd3, how would I write that???
[14:03] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: which vm do you use ?
[14:03] <ethanol> I need to mkdir /net or /network first I presume?
[14:03] <Dunge> I inadvertently copied the /usr folder from a ARM device over the /usr folder of my ubuntu machine while trying to move it to somewhere else (I know, this is very bad and stupid). So afterward I took the /usr data from another VMWare machine who had the same image as mine and copied it over... but I'm getting some strange behavior... and now i'm stuck in initramfs. Is my installation good for the thrash?
[14:03] <exia_> esb, okay thanks. well i didnt found that
[14:03] <exia_> esb, in smplayer in performance
[14:04] <kerimbasol> ethanol:  /network better in  redhat i encoured with a problem
[14:04] <exia_> esb, theres only allow frame drop and its switched on
[14:04] <Ranakah> hi... i have one problem...
[14:04] <Ranakah> http://www.shrani.si/f/3g/13x/UK7glE6/06072009.jpg
[14:04] <esb> exia_: no Threads for decoding ?
[14:04] <vigo> dbugger: Are you using the Tab things?
[14:04] <Ranakah> and when i push CTRL+D system work normaly... but then i don't see /boot partition
[14:04] <dbugger> what tab thing?
[14:04] <esb> exia_:  You using the 0.6.7 version ?
[14:04] <exia_> esb, ah yeah i see, min
[14:04] <nibsa1242b> Need GRUB help, I'm building a computer for a friend... They have decided to allow me to put Ubuntu on it. They want windows to be the default booting OS. I see in the menu.lst file I can set a # for a default option, but that seems like with every kernel update the # for Windows ( the last entry ) will change. Can I make windows ( or any other OS ) the first option without screwing anything up?
[14:05] <exia_> esb, well i set it 2
[14:05] <vigo> dbugger: In Terminal one can use multiple tabs.
[14:05] <exia_> esb, but i still cant jump over the video :-)
[14:05] <exia_> esb, its my main problem... not performance
[14:05] <vise> dbugger, cmd1; cmd2; (cmd3 &)
[14:05] <dbugger> vigo, it's for scriting actually..
[14:05] <esb> exia_:  What output driver do you use ?
[14:05] <dbugger> ty vise!
[14:05] <[[webrat]]> is there any possible way i can optimize my screen resolution?
[14:05] <exia_> esb, XV
[14:05] <vise> dbugger, Not sure! try first...
[14:06] <dbugger> I will!
[14:06] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: you can make your default selection from default
[14:06] <esb> exia_: Sorry... can't be of anymore help = / Good luck anyways
[14:06] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: from menu.lst
[14:06] <exia_> esb, thanks you too man :) i'll try to solve this problem
[14:06] <dbugger> vise, not really good... I keep getting them in order
[14:07] <[[webrat]]> hi... i am using a "M2N68-AM SE2" and having some issues installing the graphics controller
[14:07] <vigo> let me test that,,,,
[14:07] <vise> dbugger, Put cmd3 & as the first one instead.. That should dispatch cmd3 in background..
[14:07] <exia_> esb, yeah!
[14:07] <nibsa1242b> kerimbasol: problem is... if I make #6 default now, and then a kernel update comes out, the desired default OS would move to #9 but it would still default to whatever #7 is
[14:07] <exia_> esb, i solved it :D seems that that MKV was broken, i just switched on one option ...
[14:07] <dbugger> vise, the thing is im scripting for PHP and I have to call some "exec" function" but I want to keep displaying my page while the server processes :S
[14:08] <Medo42> I'm using the Karmic alpha and gdm stopped working.  I can move the corsor but nothing else happens.
[14:08] <exia_> esb, Rebuild index if needed
[14:08] <esb> exia_: Congrats =)
[14:08] <exia_> esb, it's called ... yeah im so glad
[14:08] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: i understood.Which version ubuntu do you use
[14:08] <vise> dbugger, So did you try (cmd3 &); cmd1; cmd2 ?
[14:08] <nibsa1242b> kerimbasol: 9.04
[14:09] <dbugger> the thing is that there's not really a 3rd command, I just want to send the output of "cmd1; cmd2; to other flow that's not the screen
[14:09] <indus> Medo42: use ubuntu+1 channel
[14:10] <dbugger> to put it simple, how would you execute a script.sh so that you can keep using the terminal while it's being executed?
[14:10] <MK13> dbugger, drag it into an already open terminal
[14:10] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: I forget its command but a command recreate the menu.lst.I am trying to remmember
[14:10] <kerimbasol> at kernel update
[14:10] <dbugger> MK13, im scripting for PHP. Cant do that
[14:11] <dbugger> wb vise
[14:11] <MK13> dbugger,  i don't think it would let you use it while executing my way anyway
[14:11] <dbugger> to put it simple, how would you execute a script.sh so that you can keep using the terminal while it's being executed?
[14:11] <vise> dbugger, ./script.sh &
[14:11] <dbugger> Im gonna try that...
[14:12] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: i remembered the name of command update-grub this is your beginning
[14:12] <easwar> how do you redirect stderr to /dev/null ?
[14:12] <easwar> like command &(1,2,3,what?)>/dev/null
[14:12] <kerimbasol> easwar: you will use like this echo 2>&1
[14:12] <kerimbasol> easwar: you will use like this echo Hello 2>&1
[14:12] <vise> dbugger, You can't use that with sudo though...
[14:13] <kerimbasol> easwar: this is redirect stdout
[14:13] <dbugger> I dont need sudo :)
[14:13] <easwar> kerimbasol, ok,and stderr?
[14:13] <kerimbasol> easwar: this is stderr to stdout if you want to redirect stdout to stderr echo Hello 1>&2
[14:14] <vise> How do I exit the shell which has the child process as this xchat without exiting xchat.. Can you reparent or something?
[14:14] <kerimbasol> easwar: if file redirection echo 2>&/tmp/error.txt
[14:15] <kerimbasol> easwar: ok ?
[14:15] <Titan8990> vise, launch xchat with: xchat & disown
[14:15] <MaT-dg1> I want to install torrentflux-b4rt, but have no idea how to set up database in mysql
[14:15] <vise> Titan8990, So i can't do anything now.. :(
[14:15] <easwar> kerimbasol, yeah.but now I want to run this command in background,so command & 2>/dev/null , correct?
[14:15] <Titan8990> vise, if you atleast sent it to background you can still disown it
[14:16] <kerimbasol> easwar: It isnt corrent command sythax
[14:16] <Titan8990> vise, but no, not if its in foreground of the terminal
[14:16] <vise> Titan8990, Yes.. it is in background already
[14:16] <easwar> kerimbasol, then?
[14:16] <vise> Titan8990, How do i do it?
[14:16] <kerimbasol> easwar: command 2>&/dev/null this is correct one
[14:16] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: installed rosegarden but still no sound .. the mid runs but no sound
[14:17] <easwar> kerimbasol, then bash gives me ambiguous redirect
[14:17] <kerimbasol> easwar: i saw background question now
[14:17] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running
[14:17] <ubuntunewbie> what does JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running means ?
[14:17] <lstarnes> easwar: try command 2>/dev/null &
[14:17] <vise> Titan8990, How do I disown xchat which i started as background?
[14:17] <ethanol> which log contains fstab errors? some entries are not being mounted and I don't know why :(
[14:17] <lstarnes> vise: just type disown
[14:18] <vise> lstarnes, Should I exit the shell now then?
[14:18] <easwar> lstarnes, thanks that worked
[14:18] <kerimbasol> easwar: wait a minute
[14:18] <easwar> :D
[14:18] <lstarnes> vise: see if it works
[14:18] <easwar> kerimbasol, ok
[14:18] <vise> lstarnes, Okay.. If it doesnt.. Il reconnect and kill you... lol
[14:18] <lstarnes> easwar: I usually use command >/dev/null 2>&1 &
[14:19] <lstarnes> easwar: that will redirect both stdout and stderr
[14:19] <easwar> lstarnes, hmm,right now I was trying to find a way stop conky telling me it's drawing to double buffer and all
[14:20] <vise> yay! lstarnes.. It worked.. You are safe..
[14:20] <j0nr> hi all
[14:20] <ubuntunewbie> what does JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running means ?
[14:20] <easwar> kerimbasol, ??
[14:20] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it means exactly that
[14:20] <bishop> joining
[14:20] <JoeM> actionparsnip1 you still here?
[14:20] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: you are not running the jack server
[14:20] <bishop> hello
[14:20] <kerimbasol> easwar: command 2>/dev/null try this
[14:20] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: what is a jackserver?
[14:20] <kerimbasol> easwar: command 2>/dev/null & try this
[14:21] <easwar> kerimbasol, that's exactly what lstarnes said,and it worked
[14:21] <JoeM> guess not
[14:21] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it's commonly known as jackd.  It's one of several audio servers
[14:21] <lstarnes> easwar: no, it's not.  kerimbasol's command does not redirect stdout
[14:21] <easwar> lstarnes, your first command
[14:22] <JoeM> I am doing a complete update (hardware, os, etc) old was 8.10 32b and new is 9.04 64b, I have a list of all the packages my 32b had installed, if I just go and install them all that shouldn't break anything should it?
[14:22] <kerimbasol> thanx :)
[14:22] <easwar> lstarnes, when you first joined this conversation
[14:22] <ethanol> which log contains fstab errors? some entries are not being mounted and I don't know why :(
[14:22] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: i really have no idea , I still can't play midi files
[14:22] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: what are you using to play them?
[14:23] <easwar> JoeM, you will have to get the 64 bit packages,you won't be able to use any packages you might have backed-up(well,you could,but it's not recommended)
[14:23] <susscorf1> my printer supports stapling where can i find the option if ubuntu supports it ?
[14:24] <JoeM> easwar I mean I just have a list (the one the bot says to make for cloning), I woudl assume it would automatically choose the 64b version of them... unless the name is different too
[14:24] <easwar> JoeM, Are you talking of a list generated by Synaptic?
[14:24] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: tried using amarok , rythmbox , audiacous all not working
[14:24] <evonise`emp> when I try to install ubuntu on my old laptop (Acer Aspire 1310) it freezes on install, also on alternate install, what can I try to do to fix it?
[14:24] <JoeM> easwar aptitude, but basically yes
[14:24] <JoeM> easwar just a list of package names
[14:25] <easwar> evonise`emp, RAM?
[14:25] <JoeM> !clone
[14:25] <evonise`emp> easwar i did a mem test
[14:25] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: I usually use rosegarden with timidity for midi files
[14:25] <JoeM> easwar I did that (first half)
[14:25] <easwar> JoeM, hmm,I never migrated from 32 to 64,when I did,it was because my HDD crashed
[14:25] <dbugger> How can I redirect the output of a script to another output so that it wont bother me??
[14:26] <easwar> JoeM, I shouldn't think it should break anything
[14:26] <JoeM> easwar guess I'll find out the hard way!  It's a clean install so no harm if it screws things up
[14:26] <lstarnes> dbugger: do you want to redirect somewhere where you can retrieve it later, or do you want to discard the output?
[14:26] <easwar> evonise`emp, I meant amount of RAM
[14:26] <kerimbasol> dbugger: do you want to pipe mechanism
[14:26] <evonise`emp> easwar i have 512 mb ;o
[14:26] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: I jsut downloaded rosegarden but it show JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running
[14:26] <jcapinc> alright when is ubuntu releasing FF 3.5?
[14:26] <easwar> evonise`emp, have you ever tried ubuntu on this machine earlier?
[14:26] <lstarnes> !ff35 | jcapinc
[14:26] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: timidity ?
[14:27] <evonise`emp> easwar no i havent...
[14:27] <dbugger> Im executing a "exec" call in PHP but I want the web to keep rendering, and the PHP web says this: "If a program is started with this function, in order for it to continue running in the background, the output of the program must be redirected to a file or another output stream. Failing to do so will cause PHP to hang until the execution of the program ends."
[14:27] <JoeM> easwar loving this new SSD, install so speedy
[14:27] <easwar> JoeM, :)
[14:27] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it's a cli-based midi player and server
[14:27] <easwar> evonise`emp, hmm
[14:27]  * easwar thinks
[14:27] <evonise`emp> :D
[14:28] <kerimbasol> dbugger: may be you can use popen and it is a kind of stream like file stream
[14:28] <dbugger> what's "popen"?
[14:28] <kerimbasol> dbugger: You can send its output to users web browser...
[14:28] <easwar> dbugger, pipe open
[14:28] <easwar> IIRC
[14:28] <dbugger> lol :D
[14:29] <kerimbasol> dbugger: it is a kind of async process output communication
[14:29] <dbugger> so simply $popen("./script.sh")
[14:29] <Ambri> #familycasserole
[14:29] <dbugger> ?
[14:29] <kerimbasol> dbugger: yes ;)
[14:29] <dbugger> let's try..
[14:29] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: should I install timidity ?
[14:29] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: yes
[14:29] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: ok
[14:29] <easwar> evonise`emp, sorry,no idea,maybe try adding boot parameters like acpi=off and noapic
[14:29] <^cheeky> hi,err i kind put some of my music albums and other files in the trash and i cant seem to restore it, when i click and move it even to the desktop it says, no file or directory exists, maybe coz it was deleted ... how can i restore my files
[14:30] <JoeM> ok... that's not good
[14:30] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: I've heard that fluidsynth is supposedly better
[14:30] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: will let you know after I install , take some time since my connenction speed wasn't that good
[14:30] <evonise`emp> easwar ok, im not that into linux, so ill google :)
[14:30] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: You can restore with testdisk photorec
[14:30] <easwar> evonise`emp, lol
[14:30] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Midi/SoftwareSynthesisHowTo might be useful
[14:30] <JoeM> bah...
[14:31] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: Or wait a minute i will better recovery software advice
[14:31] <JoeM> I think I was dumb and forgot to set the boot flag on the OS drive
[14:31] <IGITIHI> Hi everyone! I have a problem with rar files. Can someone help me?
[14:31] <JoeM> anyway to fix that without reinstalling?
[14:31] <evonise`emp> easwar thanks
[14:31] <arch-nemesis> .
[14:31] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, so there is no restore function .. :/
[14:32] <dbugger> na, that doesnt work on the shell :( only in C programming
[14:32] <swoody> evonise`emp:  did you do anything to cause the freeze?
[14:32] <easwar> ty swaj
[14:32] <easwar> oops
[14:32] <Baba_B00ie> anyone know of a bug in firefox 3.0.11 where it erases the bookmarks ?
[14:32] <easwar> ty swoody
[14:32] <swoody> easwar:  yup :)
[14:32] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: http://www.howtoforge.net/recover-deleted-files-with-scalpel
[14:33] <swoody> evonise`emp:  or have you run memtest on your laptop recently?
[14:33] <easwar> swoody, yeah,he has
[14:33] <swoody> ah, ok good
[14:34] <evonise`emp> swoody, i was installing ubuntu from the cd
[14:34] <swoody> evonise`emp:  and it came up with no errors?
[14:34]  * easwar watches on the sidelines
[14:34] <zak_>  ima connected to a distant machine using ssh , how can i launch amarok on that distant machine
[14:34] <evonise`emp> swoody u mean the memtest?
[14:34] <swoody> evonise`emp:  yes
[14:34] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: another one is "foremost"
[14:34] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: ok ?
[14:34] <evonise`emp> swoody, when installing with grapical interface, it freezed at 22 %, and at alternate install on 83 %
[14:35] <zak_>  ima connected to a distant machine using ssh , how can i launch amarok on that distant machine*
[14:35] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, yeah man thank you iam reading up on scalpel
[14:35] <swoody> evonise`emp:  it sounds like you don't have enough HDD space
[14:35] <easwar> !repeat
[14:35] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, what do you use ?
[14:35] <evonise`emp> swoody the memtest was busy for 1,5 hours or somthimg, i dont know what it was still doing, but it ran fine i guess
[14:35] <easwar> !repeat| zak_
[14:35] <swoody> evonise`emp:  is this a clean install, or is there another OS on your HDD?
[14:35] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: if you select file by type i can advice foremost
[14:35] <evonise`emp> swoody there is somthing on the hdd, but i chose to use the whole disk
[14:35] <susscorf1> my printer supports stapling where can i find the option if ubuntu supports it ?
[14:35] <evonise`emp> swoody and the hdd is 30 gb
[14:36] <swoody> evonise`emp:  what options did you pick during install? To use the entire drive?
[14:36] <evonise`emp> swoody yes, i did not really understand the linux partitioning, but as far as i know i used the whole disk
[14:36] <vise> Where can I get xserver-xorg-input-synaptics driver source code for ubuntu? Driver is installed.. But it is buggy while tapping.. So it would be cool if i get to change it...
[14:36] <easwar> evonise`emp, if you wanted to use the whole disk,you would have chosen the first option
[14:37] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: http://www.howtoforge.net/recover-deleted-files-with-foremost
[14:37] <evonise`emp> easwar in graphical or alternate install?
[14:37] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: ok ?
[14:37] <easwar> evonise`emp, graphical
[14:37] <evonise`emp> easwar ok
[14:37]  * easwar has alternate CDs but never used them
[14:37] <swoody> evonise`emp:  on the installation, did you select to "Install Ubuntu to entire hard drive", "Install Ubuntu to entire free space on hard drive",  or do it manually?
[14:37] <ethanol> ok. so I mounted an smb share. but it tries to read usernames from my local machine, rather than from remote server.
[14:37] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, thank you
[14:37] <^cheeky> cheers
[14:37] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: i understood you will rescue only mp3 hence select foremost.Did i understand right ?
[14:37] <evonise`emp> swoody on the entire disk
[14:38] <evonise`emp> swoody i will try it again, but what i dont understand: why doesnt it give an error then like: you dont have enough space?
[14:38] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, well .avi/ mp3
[14:38] <swoody> evonise`emp:  well you may want to check the installation media. So when you boot from the liveCD again, try running the option "Test install disc for errors"
[14:38] <simoncpu> hello fellow weirdos
[14:38] <simoncpu> anyone here uses digiKam?
[14:39] <swoody> evonise`emp:  it'll be on the menu that first comes up when you boot from the disc
[14:39] <bishop> Eemp  what os were u runnin?
[14:39]  * easwar no KDE
[14:39] <evonise`emp> swoody i did that the time when i used the desktop iso and the graphical setup, it returned with no errors
[14:39] <evonise`emp> swoody and it still freezed
[14:40] <evonise`emp> swoody i will do it now with the alternate iso
[14:40] <swoody> evonise`emp:  what kind of HDD do you have? i.e. who's it made by?
[14:40]  * ivalladt is back.
[14:40] <evonise`emp> swoody ok wait
[14:40] <J_P> hey all, what package contain arial.ttf font?
[14:40] <ivalladt> J_P: apt-file
[14:41] <evonise`emp> swoody 30 GB HDD IBM Travelstar 2.5" 4200 RPM (Serial nummer: IC25N030ATCS04-0)
[14:41] <swoody> evonise`emp:  one sec....
[14:41] <evonise`emp> swoody thanks mate
[14:41] <BLOK> HI
[14:42] <karamella> hi all ( indus ) r u their
[14:42] <indus> of course iam
[14:42] <indus> :)
[14:42] <evonise`emp> lol
[14:43] <simoncpu> get a room
[14:43] <karamella> good
[14:43] <indus> ok :D
[14:43] <dbugger> join #bash
[14:43] <karamella> yaa
[14:43] <indus> karamella: so is your problem solved?
[14:43] <karamella> realy
[14:43] <karamella> noooooooooooo
[14:44] <indus> karamella: what is the problem tell
[14:44] <karamella> i copied all font in ttf
[14:44] <mickster04> good afternoon indus
[14:44] <indus> mickster04: good evening mickster04
[14:44] <karamella> but the file i wanna to read is not combat-able
[14:44] <indus> karamella: what file is this? and what is the error
[14:44] <swoody> evonise`emp:  go ahead and try the mini.iso, but if that doesn't work for you either, you may want to try and run a complete diagnostic on your HDD. Here is the link from your manufacture's website straight to it: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
[14:45] <karamella> indus
[14:45] <swoody> evonise`emp:  you'll need to download the .iso for Drive Fitness Test, burn it to a cd, and run it in your computer
[14:45] <karamella> could i send the file to u and tell me what the suitable font
[14:46] <evonise`emp> swoody what is the mini.iso?
[14:46]  * easwar thinks Debian
[14:46] <swoody> evonise`emp:  oh, sorry. The alternate install of Ubuntu
[14:46] <evonise`emp> swoody i have the alternate install iso
[14:46] <indus> karamella: yes
[14:47] <indus> send it
[14:47] <evonise`emp> swoody: ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[14:47] <karamella> ok
[14:47] <karamella> 1 sec
[14:47] <lynn> Does anyone running Jaunty have an issue with Firefox not properly un-maximizing?  (it stays the maximum size when you un-maximize instead of going back to the last-known unmaximized size).
[14:47] <swoody> evonise`emp:  yeah, that's what I meant, sry :)
[14:47] <indus> mickster04: how are things mic
[14:47] <mickster04> indus fine, u got that one sorted? anyone not eing seen to?
[14:47] <evonise`emp> swoody, and what do i want to do with that iso?
[14:48] <evonise`emp> swoody i already tried to install that one, but it freezed at 83 %
[14:48] <mickster04> lynn, havec u got compiz set up, and are uu using themes?
[14:48] <evonise`emp> swoody its now checking for errors on the CD
[14:48] <indus> evonise`emp: disconnect network cable and you will reach 100 %
[14:48] <evonise`emp> indus i dont have any network cable lol
[14:48] <indus> evonise`emp: its a silly bug
[14:48] <evonise`emp> indus :(
[14:48] <indus> evonise`emp: disconnect wireless then
[14:49] <evonise`emp> indus disconnect wireless :S?
[14:49] <lynn> mickster04: no compiz or themes.
[14:49] <indus> evonise`emp:/me wonders how to disconnect a wireless con :)
[14:49] <evonise`emp> indus this laptop doesnt have a wireless onboard
[14:49]  * indus wonders
[14:49]  * evonise`emp wonders indeed
[14:49] <mickster04> lynn ok just checking...sometimes they have issue with each other, nm then
[14:49] <evonise`emp> swoody, but what do u think, that i should try that drive fitness test?
[14:50] <indus> evonise`emp: hmm then wait for it to get over the freeze, probably feeling chilly at 83 %
[14:50] <evonise`emp> indus, you think it will go on after some time?
[14:50] <evonise`emp> indus i think i let it at 83, for about 30 mins
[14:50] <evonise`emp> indus on the graphical ionstall i could see if the mouse was still moving :P
[14:50] <Hellscream> i am cornholio
[14:50] <evonise`emp> swoody indus, the cd check returned no errors
[14:51] <Davidebian> may the cd be broken?
[14:51] <swoody> evonise`emp:  good, good. Try burning that HD fitness test I linked you, and run that
[14:51] <Hellscream> ya cd are boken
[14:51] <indus> evonise`emp: the point where it freezes, what is the installer doing? it will be saying something
[14:51] <bazhang> Hellscream, please stop
[14:51] <Hellscream> ok
[14:52] <korw> I'm setting up a ubuntu file server at the moment and I'm unsure of the best RAID configuration with 4 drives. Any advice out there for me? :)
[14:52] <evonise`emp> indus, i cant remmeber i will try it again now
[14:52] <indus> evonise`emp: its a live cd correct?
[14:52] <Hellscream> when will karmic reach rc stage?
[14:52] <evonise`emp> swoody ok i will try that after i checked what indus says
[14:52] <bazhang> !karmic > Hellscream
[14:52] <evonise`emp> indus: its this one: ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[14:52] <indus> evonise`emp: oh alternate
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: then iam not sure
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus: oh :(
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: whats wrong with the live cd?
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus it also freezed -.-
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: swoody probably follow swoody advice
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: freezed at where?
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus ok thanks
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus at 22% once, and 25% trhe second  time
[14:53] <Davidebian> it always falls at 83 % ?
[14:54] <mintux> I set my wireless ip static and it can connects to modem <IP_ADDRESS> but it can not ping <IP_ADDRESS> and said Destination Host Unreachable
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus dunno what it said there
[14:54] <indus> evonise`emp: hmm thats strange, check hard disk cables
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus lol. its a laptop, it wroked fine :(
[14:54] <easwar> Davidebian, please use nick while addressing someone
[14:54] <bishop> Eemp  try a reintall linexline with swoody.
[14:54] <indus> evonise`emp: hmmmmmmm
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus: dunno how i can check that in a laptop :D
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus maybe ill try that drive fitness test then
[14:55] <J_P> ivalladt: I install apt-file. And after did #apt-file  update  but he stop here. not show messages that updating...
[14:55] <indus> evonise`emp: ya thats good too,but do you have software for that?
[14:55] <evonise`emp> indus, what do u mean?
[14:55] <indus> evonise`emp: i mean... how are you gonna check fitness
[14:55] <evonise`emp> indus i read here that it is a bootable cd
[14:56] <evonise`emp> indus: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
[14:56] <Davidebian> easwar: there's a friendly way to do that?
[14:56] <easwar> indus, swoody provided a link to manufacturer's software
[14:56] <Hellscream> !karmic > indus
[14:56] <easwar> Davidebian, yeah,type the starting characters of a nick and press tab
[14:56] <evonise`emp> easwar, is that the manufacturars website :S?
[14:56] <Hellscream> !karmic > bazhang
[14:56] <indus> Hellscream: why are you sending me this link? for karmic
[14:56] <easwar> evonise`emp, that's what swoody said
[14:56] <Davidebian> easwar:  yeah, just fine
[14:56] <evonise`emp> easwar, i have a IBM travelstar, and this site is hitachi's
[14:57] <melhisedek>  Can I get Xchat to open links right away? And not have to right click on it and select "Open in browser" ?
[14:57] <swoody> evonise`emp:  there is a bootable .iso there. You need to burn it to a CD, and reboot to load it, just like a liveCD
[14:57] <indus> Hellscream: karmic rc is dated sep 23
[14:57] <evonise`emp> swoody, ok, but is it ok since this site is hitachi's, and my drive is a IBM travelstar ?
[14:57] <easwar> !karmic
[14:57] <Hellscream> i thought its dated oct 09
[14:57] <bazhang> Hellscream, yes I know
[14:57] <swoody> evonise`emp:  and don't worry about it saying Hitachi. IBM and Hitachi merged into one company, so that' the correct tool to use
[14:57] <kantxx> any squid gurus here?
[14:58] <erxin> hi, i use Ubuntu
[14:58] <axisys> what is a itune like app ?
[14:58] <evonise`emp> swoody: ok thanks, also easwar and indus: i will try it now cya :)
[14:58] <easwar> axisys, Rhythmbox
[14:58] <indus> bb
[14:58] <easwar> erxin, we all do
[14:58] <swoody> evonise`emp:  ok, let us know how it goes :)
[14:58] <easwar> evonise`emp, np,besta luck
[14:58] <axisys> easwar: will it let me purchase songs ?
[14:58] <evonise`emp> i will
[14:58] <Hellscream> diff between debian and ubuntu packages?
[14:58] <erxin> i configured my Compiz, but i dont know what i did, now nothing is working of my compiz effects
[14:58] <indus> evonise`emp: comeback soon :))
[14:58] <easwar> axisys, not from the iTunes store
[14:58] <erxin> how can i reset to defaults again ?
[14:58] <bazhang> Hellscream, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:59] <mickster04> erxin, mosts of us do here:P
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: dont care about itune store
[14:59] <Hellscream> ok
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: how about amazon cd?
[14:59] <RickX> anyone know how to export a rhythmbox playlist so it can be used in a cd cover?
[14:59] <erxin> then most of u can answer my question :P
[14:59] <mintux> no suggestion ?
[14:59] <easwar> axisys, It has tie-ups with Jamendo and Magnatune
[14:59] <mickster04> !ask | erxin
[14:59] <mickster04> erxin just go for it
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: i just searched for john powell .. found nothing
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: using rhythmbox
[15:00] <erxin> the effects of CompizConfig dont work anymore, how can i reset to defaults ?
[15:00] <Donks> Hi Can any one please help me?
[15:00] <easwar> axisys, both Jamendo and Magnatune concentrate on non-famous artists
[15:00] <easwar> erxin, do you have compizconfig settings manager installed?
[15:00] <erxin> yes
[15:00] <indus> Donks: mickster04:yeah micster will help you
[15:00] <axisys> easwar: hmm.. i want to listen to the bourne soundtracks.. if i like i then want to purchase
[15:01] <mickster04> lol
[15:01] <mickster04> !ask | donks
[15:01] <easwar> erxin, can't you select what effects you lost?
[15:01] <indus> hihihiihihih
[15:01] <easwar> axisys, hmm
[15:01] <axisys> easwar: any other tool.. close to itunes?
[15:02] <bishop> donks just ask ?
[15:02] <easwar> axisys, not that I know of
[15:02] <mickster04> donks just put my full nick before so i know ur speakin to me:P
[15:02] <erxin> no how can i do that
[15:02] <ethanol> anyone able to help me debug why my smb shares aren't mounted properly. as in, owners/groups on the remote machine are not recognized as the local machine and reading/writing is screwed up due to this
[15:02] <ethanol> not recognized on the local machine*
[15:02] <axisys> trying to see if pandora can help.. so far no go
[15:02] <easwar> erxin, um,use the tickboxes in front of the effects?
[15:03] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all,
[15:03] <Donks> I have repartitioned my hdd's and as a result I have wiped ubuntu from the drive, I am now getting a grum erro 17 and cannot boot into windows. I have googled this, I do not have a live cd to change the setting is there anything I can do to fix this?
[15:03] <CrAzYoNi> There is no "write" permission on apache channel.. I hope you'll might help me...
[15:03] <easwar> !details
[15:03] <Activ> Does somebody know openBSD ?
[15:03] <mickster04> donks, yeah get a live cd would be the easiest way
[15:03] <easwar> !details| CrAzYoNi
[15:04] <bazhang> Activ, wrong channel for that
[15:04] <Donks> is there anyother way to do this?
[15:04] <Activ> What channel i have to join ?
[15:04] <bazhang> Activ, the one for that system
[15:04] <Donks> I cant boot from any cd's for some reason including the win cd.
[15:04] <bazhang> Donks, what about usb
[15:04] <CrAzYoNi> Apache2 under Ubuntu Jaunty is configured, by default to hold inside "/etc/apache2/envvars", the path to the file that will hold the PID number of the root Apache - /var/run/apache2.pid
[15:04] <mickster04> donks, i've never tried..sorry...an i wouldnt actually know how to..cos it sounds like you can't access the grub settings?
[15:05] <CrAzYoNi> I'm writing a script that will make sure that the Apache service is up...
[15:05] <Donks> no I cannot input anything the system just hangs there
[15:05] <CrAzYoNi> What can cause the /var/run/apache2.pid to be without read permission?
[15:05] <xtalmath> in Jaunty: originally I got a popup for password everytime I mounted a partition in Computer folder. Now it doesnt. When I mount a vfat partition I can make directories etc, when I mount an ext3 I cant. Both say "could not determine permissions" in the properties pane.
[15:05] <bazhang> Donks, nothing boots? can you get into bios?
[15:06] <Donks> yes
[15:06] <Titan8990> CrazyEddy, check the init script that creates the pid
[15:06] <mickster04> donks how do expect to be able to do anything if u can't actually use the system?
[15:06] <bazhang> Donks, then set to boot from cd
[15:06] <Donks> i have disable all boot devices excpet the cd this also is not working
[15:06] <bazhang> sounds like a bad burn Donks
[15:07] <Donks> I have always had an issue booting from cd for some reason
[15:07] <mateo> hi
[15:07] <bishop> fyi there iz a live partition editor u can download and burn if u want to look at partitions.
[15:07] <bazhang> md5 the iso, burn at low speed, then do the disk integrity check Donks
[15:07] <indus> oops
[15:08] <zini2> I just installed two libraries (Ogre, OIS) through the package manager. But now a 3rd library complains, that it can't find the .pc files when I run cmake for it. Do I have to take additional actions or is there a problem with the packages or what?
[15:08] <mateo> i have a problrm with opera unite, i cant make it work
[15:08] <mickster04> donks, is it a pc or laptop?
[15:08] <Donks> its a pc
[15:08] <evonise`emp> swoody, that hdd test cd im running now, what do u expect it will do? can it fix the hdd aswell?
[15:08] <ethanol> come on guys, can anyone help me with smb shares?
[15:08] <mateo> think i cant portforward
[15:08] <indus> hi
[15:09] <indus> oops
[15:09] <indus> how do i enable language in open office
[15:09] <mickster04> donks, (please put my nick at the front, i have to keep searching for you,) mayb try gettin a usb with nbr on it an boot from that, do the grub stuff then try again
[15:09] <mateo> can anyone help me?
[15:09] <swoody> evonise`emp:  not sure what the program can do. If it comes across any errors, see if it has a way to try and fix them, but otherwise it may just let us know if there's something wrong with your HDD
[15:09] <evonise`emp> swoody i understand
[15:09] <mickster04> mateo port forwarding is hiandled by the router no?
[15:09] <Donks> mickster, what is nbr?
[15:10] <mateo> i guess
[15:10] <mateo> i have a router
[15:10] <mickster04> donks 9.04 comes in three flavours, desktop, server and netbookremix
[15:10] <Anirban1987> How to use OpenDNS on an ubuntu LAMP Server ?
[15:10] <GJ> Afternoon fella's
[15:10] <mickster04> donks mickster04 is my nick....
[15:10] <lunix> Hei people:)   I am trying to make fbi work so I guess I need to  enable my frambuffer by removing it from  /etc/modprobe.dblacklist-framebuffer.conf    My problem is that  I cant find out what videocard thats installed.. Is there any  command to do that??  Or maybe what im doing is not the best way  of fixing it.. If you know a better way please tell also ;)
[15:10] <mickster04> mateo, have you had a look at routersettings?
[15:11] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: hey sorry I was afk, you still need a seperate midi controller to make the noise
[15:11] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: did you read the article I linked for you
[15:11] <ctmjr> lunix, lspci | grep VGA
[15:11] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: is ok
[15:11] <mickster04> !pm | mateo
[15:12] <mickster04> donks, u dont have to install it, infact possily better if u dont, but u can use it to boot off a usb stick
[15:12] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: haven't finist all still reading , still i can't play at other media
[15:12] <lunix>  Thanks ctmjr:)  Ill try that
[15:12] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: other member lstarnes was helping me just now too
[15:12] <GJ> Question: I was wondering how I could set my default audio program, atm when I open an audio file it starts Totem Mediaplayer, but I wan't to use Rythmbox
[15:13] <lesshaste>  I just installed kile but when I go to Build->Compile it doesn't bring down any options. none of compile, convert, view or other show anything
[15:13] <Donks> mickster04, after i get that working on the flash drive can i remove grub?
[15:14] <mickster04>  well i would suggest you follow the instructions you saw before, its just u need to boot up off something...so if u dont wanna do a cd, use a usb stick instead
[15:14] <mickster04> donks well i would suggest you follow the instructions you saw before, its just u need to boot up off something...so if u dont wanna do a cd, use a usb stick instead
[15:15] <legend2440> GJ: right click the audio file choose properties then open with and select  Rhythym box
[15:16] <GJ> ok thanks Legend!
[15:17] <bishop> leaving
[15:18] <maccam94> !ff3.5
[15:18] <JoeM> I'm reinstalling again... but what would cause an error of "OS Fails to load" on a clean install of 9.04 64b?
[15:18] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: i downloaded it and it play midi file :-)
[15:18] <vytas> Hi. Is it normal for X to use 1GB of memory?
[15:19] <shay27> Hello , is it possible to create ssh connection in my local network without typing all the time the ssh password ?
[15:19] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: i didn't use the timidity or syth , I just tried with rosegarden
[15:20] <axnvshal> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[15:20] <vytas> shay27: just use authentication files
[15:20] <xtalmath> need help mounting
[15:20] <mickster04> ;)
[15:21] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: but some instrument wasn't synchronize as it should be...
[15:22] <Davidebian> hey, about firefox 3.5 , when will the icedove clone be ready?
[15:22] <bazhang> !ff35 > Davidebian
[15:23] <lcabrini> I'm looking for an application that performs the same function as the gnome character selector applet but does not assume I have a panel to put it on.
[15:24] <ziroday> lcabrini: such as gcharmap
[15:24] <Davidebian> ubottu: following your link
[15:24] <lcabrini> ziroday: nope, such as allow me to select a list of characters that I frequently insert.
[15:24] <lcabrini> and allow me to push to clipboard
[15:25] <ziroday> lcabrini: ah, well perhaps a clipboard manager such as glipper or parcelite then
[15:25] <lcabrini> ziroday: hm.. still a bit off, unfortunately.
[15:25] <ziroday> lcabrini: closest I know of sorry
[15:26] <lcabrini> ziroday: np, thanks for the help anyways
[15:26] <ziroday> lcabrini: good luck
[15:26] <homy> Hi, is there a demo site that shows all the new features of Firefox 3.5 (Not in a video, I mean one that you access with firefox 3.5 to see it in action)?
[15:26] <ziroday> homy: err what in particular are you looking for?
[15:27] <homy> A website which shows e.g. the new css and svg features of firefox 3.5
[15:28] <pantera69> hy to all
[15:28] <totyko> hola
[15:28] <totyko> alguien me ayuda con una tarjeta ati 9200
[15:28] <ziroday> homy: best I can find is http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/releasenotes/
[15:28] <pantera69_> hy to all
[15:28] <totyko> no me deja activar los efectos de escrorio
[15:29] <ziroday> !es | totyko
[15:29] <pantera69> hy to all
[15:29] <kbrosnan> homy: hacks.mozilla.org developer.mozilla.org
[15:29] <LastRomeo> hi
[15:30] <misteralexander> I am trying to install NDISWRAPPER on a computer with no internet.  So, I'm downloading all the NDISWRAPPER .deb's to a thumb drive and installing it one at a time. Well, it seems, there are like a thousand dependencies . . . causing me to endlessly run back & fourth.  Is there a way to get EVERYTHING all at once, instead of one at a time . . . FOREVER???
[15:30] <homy> kbrosnan: thanks!
[15:31] <faileas> misteralexander: install it on another box, use apt-on cd to grab all the files it installed
[15:31] <cabrey> misteralexander, where are you getting debs from?
[15:31] <indus> misteralexander: maybe use the package from medibuntu,. you will get all
[15:31] <cabrey> misteralexander, or use faileas suggestion :)
[15:31] <m477> i which option i can change standard browser ?
[15:31] <faileas> or use sudo apt-get install -s from another box, and use that to decide what debs to install
[15:31] <ziroday> m477: System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[15:32] <misteralexander> cabrey: I'm getting the debs from the "Lenny" "Debian" site.
[15:32] <ziroday> !offline | misteralexander
[15:32] <m477> ziroday: thx
[15:32] <karamella> indus
[15:32] <indus> karamella: i just sent u email
[15:32] <ziroday> misteralexander: also mixing distro's is *really* not a good idea
[15:32] <misteralexander> indus: I didn't know there was a Medibuntu Package.
[15:32] <bazhang> misteralexander, don't
[15:33] <indus> karamella: go to system>administration>language support click on arabic and install
[15:33] <bazhang> misteralexander, breakage will ensue
[15:33] <misteralexander> bazhang:  Good to know, I assumed a deb was a deb was a deb.
[15:33] <Dalyor> Hello all !  I need a irc server francophone for Ubuntu please
[15:33] <misteralexander> bazhang: many thanks
[15:33] <indus> bazhang: what breakage
[15:33] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: hi
[15:33] <indus> bazhang: thats where i got skype from
[15:34] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: I had install muse but it still keep on saying that jackserver fail
[15:34] <ziroday> indus: mixing different distro's debs is dangerous.
[15:34] <ziroday> indus: heck mixing different ubuntu releases debs is dangerous
[15:34] <indus> ziroday: different distros?
[15:34] <bazhang> indus, very bad choice. please NEVER recommend that here.
[15:34] <NoNick> по русски помогают ?
[15:34] <bazhang> NoNick, #ubuntu-ru
[15:34] <indus> am i missing something
[15:34] <ziroday> indus: as in its not a good idea to use debian .debs or repositories in ubuntu
[15:34] <NoNick> tnx
[15:35] <indus> ziroday: aah debian debs
[15:35] <cabrey> indus, the skype binary will be the same across many distros
[15:35] <bazhang> indus, yes. don't use debian stuff in Ubuntu. ever.
[15:35] <indus> yes i forgot, thats 3rd party
[15:35] <indus> bazhang: but iam suggesting he search for an ubuntu version there
[15:35] <indus> hmm oops there is no such thing
[15:36] <bazhang> indus, at medibuntu
[15:36] <indus> misteralexander: where did you get ndiswrapper debs from
[15:36] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: have you asked the muse communtiy
[15:36] <cabrey> indus, he already said from the debian repository
[15:37] <indus> oh sorry missed it
[15:37] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: community ?
[15:37] <henkboom> Is there a way to get gnome to automatically switch to a workspace when a window in it demands focus?
[15:38] <cabrey> henkboom, no, that would be pretty annoying
[15:38] <indus> karamella: did u install, now try open it with open office and on start up it will give you options for character etc, try select arabic-windows or arabic iso
[15:38] <martin__> i just installed ubuntu and its already running out of space, but i have partitions with free space that i want to add, but how do i do this ?
[15:38] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: how do I check whether I had jackaudio installed. Why does it fail even on rosegarden
[15:38] <indus> karamella: i still cant get it to use arabic in text editor
[15:39] <karamella> I'M TRYING SIR
[15:39] <henkboom> cabrey: umm, you have to assume that applications only demand focus when they should be focused, otherwise what's the point of that functionality?
[15:39] <indus> ok i gtg
[15:39] <indus> bye all
[15:39] <indus> see u in some time from home
[15:40] <henkboom> in this case I click on a pidgin notification: it does nothing, since the window is on another workspace
[15:40] <homy> In jaunty with proposed-updates, when I install firefox-3.5 I get weird branding like a different logo and it is called shiretoko. Can I somehow get the normal name and branding for jaunty?
[15:40] <henkboom> maybe I'll have to switch back to xfce, where app focus works properly =/
[15:41] <cabrey> henkboom, are you talking about the black translucent bubbles?
[15:41] <ziroday> homy: shiretoko is the code name of the 3.5 release, and no you can't get the normal firefox branding.
[15:41] <henkboom> cabrey: no,
[15:41] <cabrey> henkboom, what do you mean by pidgin notification then?
[15:41] <genii> homy: firefox-3.5-branding
[15:41] <ziroday> genii: that still names it shiretoko AFAICT
[15:41] <henkboom> if pidgin gets a new message, the system tray icon turns into a notification symbol, and when I click it it's supposed to raise the message
[15:41] <homy> genii: this gives this ugly logo and shiretoko name.
[15:42] <misteralexander> !aptoncd
[15:42] <homy> ziroday: how come thats not possible? Who *wants* this ugly logo and name?
[15:42] <newbieRy> after a successful installation on my acer desktop, the installation to my toshiba satellite a305-s6909 is acting funny, I finally heard the sound for the login page but am at a white screen with crawling black lines.  Last thing I saw was after installing in Windows Vista, removing the disc, at the Ubuntu loading image.  And I am trying to install ver 8.04, any hints on how to fix the display?
[15:42] <genii> homy: The "minefield" releases will always have the globe logo, etc
[15:42] <martin__> i just installed ubuntu and its already running out of space, but i have partitions with free space that i want to add, but how do i do this ?
[15:42] <cabrey> henkboom, well usuallly the notification is a black bubble... what version of ubuntu?
[15:42] <homy> genii: what do you mean with "minefield"?
[15:42] <henkboom> cabrey: I get the black bubble as well of course
[15:42] <ziroday> homy: its because you have two versions of firefox installed
[15:42] <henkboom> I'm not talking about the libnotify notifications
[15:43] <genii> homy: Development versions
[15:43] <roland> anyone installed CLAM(C++ Library for Audio and Music) successfully?
[15:43] <homy> ziroday: if i uninstall the package firefox-3.0, will I get normal branding?
[15:43] <ziroday> homy: no
[15:43] <henkboom> I'm talking about the pidgin system tray notification
[15:43] <homy> genii: but it is the final version: dpkg-query -W firefox-3.5
[15:43] <homy> firefox-3.5	3.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:43] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:44] <henkboom> the focus problem also happens when I click a link in another app, firefox should raise, and it does when I'm in the same workspace
[15:44] <henkboom> but if I'm in a different workspace nothing happens
[15:44] <cabrey> henkboom, well it's possible there is a gconf setting...
[15:45] <henkboom> cabrey: where would I look to find it?
[15:45] <mitch_> hi
[15:45] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  mitch_
[15:45] <Guest90073> ty
[15:46] <joebodo> henkboom are you using compiz ?
[15:46] <henkboom> joebodo: no, metacity
[15:46] <sebsebseb> Guest90073: why change the guest name?
[15:46] <linuxien> hello
[15:46] <sebsebseb> Guest90073: to the guest name
[15:47] <zak__>  how to open a vnc session
[15:47] <Guest90073> hi wer u from guys
[15:47] <xtalmath> I dont have write permissions for an ext3 drive how come?
[15:47] <JoeM> ok... what is going on... I've tried to install 9.04 four times now (64b) and each time the install completes it tells me not bootabe
[15:47] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Guest90073
[15:47] <erUSUL> !addingfs | xtalmath
[15:48] <melhisedek> anyone can check if steam is working right now please?
[15:48] <zak__>  how to open a vnc session
[15:48] <sebsebseb> zak__: why?
[15:48] <cabrey> henkboom, alt-f2 -> gconf-editor
[15:48] <zak__> why..???!
[15:48] <xtalmath> !permissions | xtalmath
[15:48] <cabrey> henkboom, though it is kinda hard to navigate
[15:48] <henkboom> cabrey: yeah, but finding what setting it is
[15:49] <sebsebseb> zak__: yeah why you want to do one of those?
[15:49] <xtalmath> !fstab | xtalmath
[15:49] <pef> hi, i would like to use 3D with Jaunty and this graphic card : VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01), unfortunatly openchrome drivers are not able to do that, what can I do ?
[15:49] <zak__> just wanan try it :d
[15:49] <kklimonda> how big differences make settings like CONFIG_HZ=100 in kernel config? i.e. how suitable is server kernel for desktop?
[15:51] <zak__> sebsebseb: so?
[15:51] <sebsebseb> zak__: who you want to connect to?
[15:51] <zak__> i want to connect from my desktop to my lappy
[15:51] <sebsebseb> zak__: ok
[15:51] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  zak__
[15:52] <Nameless_au> hey i'm using xubuntu, but can i stay in this channel please?
[15:52] <sebsebseb> zak__: and you don't need to use SSH  when  doing it  over a LAN (local area network)
[15:52] <evonise`emp> swoody, i finished the fitness test, it returned no errors
[15:52] <sebsebseb> zak__: ,but on the Internet  ssh should be used with it
[15:52] <zak__> got it :)
[15:53] <erUSUL> kklimonda: CONFIG_HZ=100 affects latency so things like media playback and others can suffer with a low value... desktop ubuntu uses 250 so maybe its not that important
[15:53] <martin__> i just installed ubuntu and its already running out of space, but i have partitions with free space that i want to add, but how do i do this ?
[15:54] <erUSUL> martin__: you can move /home to that partition that is a good thing in case of reinstalling and helps freeing space
[15:54] <martin__> okay ill try that
[15:54] <misteralexander> !offline
[15:55] <erUSUL> martin__: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[15:55] <sebsebseb> martin__:   what's the partition set up you done?
[15:55] <wiehan> I can't install ia32-libs, it says could not find package with sudo apt-get install ia32-libs, can't find it in synaptic either... This is so strange.
[15:55] <martin__> i installed ubuntu with dual booting windows xp
[15:55] <sebsebseb> martin__: what partitions do you have?
[15:55] <martin__> but they are on seperate hard drives
[15:56] <kklimonda> wiehan, you sure you are running 64 bit?
[15:56] <erUSUL> wiehan: maybe you are on 32 bits ubuntu ?
[15:56] <wiehan> Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux This isn't my pc, but that mean 32 bit or 64 bit?
[15:56] <erUSUL> wiehan: i686 <<< 32 bits
[15:57] <sebsebseb> wiehan: it means the version of Ubuntu that is installed is 32bit
[15:57] <kklimonda> wiehan, than it's a 32bit version of ubuntu and it doesn't need ia32-libs
[15:57] <wers> Whenever I try opening my iPod Touch via ssh I get Cannot display location "sftp://mobile@<IP add>/  Timed out when logging in" Any idea why? It didnt even ask for a password
[15:57] <wiehan> ahhh, ok...
[15:57] <sebsebseb> wiehan: it does not mean that the computer can't do 64bit OS's
[15:57] <JoeM> Ubuntu doesn't seem to play nice with the ASUS P6T raid controller... anyway to fix that, or another way to do raid?
[15:57] <wiehan> thank you though
[15:58] <sebsebseb> wiehan: ok np
[15:59] <wiehan> I keep on getting this error while I'm installing an official samsung printer driver::   export: 1667: 2009: bad variable name
[15:59] <erUSUL> JoeM: use linux software raid if you do not have dual bott with windows
[15:59] <marko-_-> !enter > marko-_-
[16:00] <martin__> on the seperatehome site it says "This guide is for creating a separate /home partition if you already installed Ubuntu without a /home partition (i.e., /home is just a folder inside your / partition). "
[16:00] <martin__> but i think i did install it with a home partition
[16:00] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | JoeM also to install on bioses raid follow this
[16:01] <wiehan> What does this error mean: export: 1667: 2009: bad variable name
[16:02] <NoGe> !seen gkovacs
[16:02] <exia_> can anybody explain what is =time out= for data connection?
[16:02] <exia_> i mean for FTP server...
[16:02] <nsahoo> is there a way to configure a key for toggle maximize?
[16:02] <misteralexander> bazhang: I'm still trying to get ndiswrapper to work.  Problem1, AptOnCd, no burner.  Problem2, when I tell Synaptic to make a "Generate a Package Download Script", it only makes a file with !#bin/sh or something like that, nothing else. Problem3, there is no ndiswrapper package in Medibuntu.
[16:03] <misteralexander> bazhang: Any Ideas?
[16:03] <Slart> misteralexander: before you clicked the "generate download script" did you mark any packages in the list?
[16:04] <misteralexander> bazhang: And the list of dependencies still numbers in the thousands.  I get one dependency only to find that IT has 20 other things IT depends on, so on & so fourth.
[16:04] <boghog> hello. is there seomthign I can do to make my Intel GPU behave better? I'm runing Ubuntu 9.04 and it locks up X a lot and produces a garbled screen when I try to run 3D applications
[16:04] <sebsebseb> !intel |  boghog
[16:04] <JoeM> erUSUL tried 5 times, alternate CD seems to work but then it won't boot... if i understand those links correctly, I can set up linux software raid via the alternate cd?
[16:04] <misteralexander> Slart: Well shit, I feel like an ass . . . I highlighted them, I didn't "Check" them.
[16:04] <boghog> thanks sebner / ubuntulog
[16:04] <Slart> boghog: I'm not sure but it could be that the intel bugs aren't really all fixed yet
[16:04] <misteralexander> DUH
[16:04] <boghog> err, ubottu
[16:04] <sebsebseb> boghog: sebner ???
[16:04] <Slart> misteralexander: =).. give it a try..
[16:04] <boghog> oh
[16:05] <boghog> I fail at tab-completing nicknames :D
[16:05] <JoeM> erUSUL: I have two 1TB drives I want to put into RAID 0 to use as /home
[16:05] <donks> I have downloaded netbook remix to try and boot from how do i make this into a bootable disk?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> boghog: yeah would be easier if those other two weren't here :)  I never see them chat in here anyway
[16:05] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 | misteralexander
[16:05] <sebsebseb> boghog: oh only one  not two at the moment :)
[16:06] <boghog> :P
[16:06] <misteralexander> Slart, okay, yeah . . . the script built just fine, but the problem is that the target computer has no internet & how to I make sure all dependencies get satisfied?
[16:06] <noodleboy> So, I'm seeing something really strange with login on a fresh jaunty install.  I have to attempt multiple times for GDM logins, ssh logins, sudo, etc.
[16:07] <misteralexander> Slart: okay, yeah . . . the script built just fine, but the problem is that the target computer has no internet & how to I make sure all dependencies get satisfied?
[16:07] <noodleboy> I thought maybe I had a stuck key or something, but the problem persists testing ssh auth from another machine
[16:07] <noodleboy> Anyone else seen this?
[16:08] <Ascavasaion> Can any recommend a nice CD to OGG ripper for Ubuntu with Gnome?
[16:08] <Slart> misteralexander: now you save that script on a big flash drive and go run it on a computer that does have an internet connection
[16:08] <DawnLight> can anyone help with bug #389992 please? i'm willing to pay
[16:08] <Slart> misteralexander: it's basically the same as aptoncd.. but with a little more manual work
[16:08] <Slart> !rip
[16:09] <misteralexander> Slart: Oh, and it'll just download to the flash drive?  Do I need to specify somewhere that the Flashdrive is the target?  And will it just pull the Dependencies automatically?
[16:09] <exia_> can anybody explain what is =time out= for data connection?
[16:09] <exia_> i mean for FTP server...
[16:09] <kerimbasol> exia_: different every ftp server.
[16:09] <Ascavasaion> Slart, In gnome?
[16:09] <Slart> misteralexander: I think it will download it to the same directory as the script file.. it's just a simple text file that runs some wget commands.. open it up and look at it
[16:09] <misteralexander> exia: Your FTP Server is expecting to hear from the other side in a certain ammount of time, if it doesn't then the connection will "Time Out"
[16:10] <Slart> Ascavasaion: sound juicer doesn't work in gnome?
[16:10] <SolarisBoy>  is there any snapshot feature of ext3 on ubuntu?
[16:10] <exia_> thanks!
[16:10] <misteralexander> Slart: Yeah, I did open it . . . and it is just wget commands.  Do you know anything about the dependencies?
[16:11] <zak__> sebsebseb: how to start tightvnc manually?
[16:11] <SolarisBoy> tightvnc & ?
[16:11] <Slart> misteralexander: if the dependencies get "marked" too I think they will be included.. but if you go back far enough it will depend on almost everything that is in the default install..
[16:11] <lesshaste>  I just installed kile but when I go to Build->Compile it doesn't bring down any options. none of compile, convert, view or other show anything
[16:11] <sebsebseb> zak__: don't use that
[16:11] <Slart> misteralexander: so if it did recursive dependencies you would end up downloading all the packages in the install cd..
[16:11] <misteralexander> Slart, Okay, thanks.
[16:11] <sebsebseb> zak__: x11vnc :)
[16:11] <misteralexander> Slart: Okay, thanks.
[16:12] <zak__> sebsebseb: typed x11vnc , then ?
[16:12] <Ascavasaion> thanks Slart that nis the one I was looking for... I installed 8.1 and it never [reinstalled it and I could not recall the name.  thank you man.
[16:12] <Slart> Ascavasaion: you're welcome
[16:12] <sebsebseb> zak__: read the bot links or something
[16:13] <lianimator> hi, I used to have this nautilus script to convert any image to jpeg, and to png.. I can't seem to google it again. someone direct me in the right direction please
[16:14] <erxin> my compiz effects still not working can anyone help me out ?
[16:14] <zak__> sebsebseb: vncviewer+ip doesn t start anything
[16:16] <misteralexander> Slart:  What is a "Recursive Dependensies"?  And I checked, Synaptic does (at least for me) auto select dependencies.
[16:17] <bazhang> erxin, which effects
[16:17] <detrix> hello all.  I have a new nvidia card.  its not saving my current settings.  I am using the nvidia X server settings manager.
[16:17] <dunks__> run it as root i think
[16:17] <erxin> they worked fine for me but now none of all arent working
[16:17] <bastidrazor> detrix, gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:17] <exortus> hello all
[16:17] <stevecoh1> want to upgrade Ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04.  Ubuntu says this is not supported must upgrade to 8.10 first.  But ubuntu download pages only offer 8.04 and 9.04, not 8.10.  wtf?
[16:17] <bazhang> erxin, which effects please clarify
[16:17] <Slart> misteralexander: I meant for example,  you install openoffice, it depends on gnome, gnome depends on X and so on..
[16:17] <ziroday> !upgrade | stevecoh1
[16:18] <bazhang> stevecoh1, watch the language please
[16:18] <erxin> shaking windows for example
[16:19] <Myrtti> stevecoh1: if you're upgrading with the internal tool, you don't need any "download pages"
[16:19] <erUSUL> JoeM: sorry been away... to use the bios raid you need to install with desktopcd if you plan to use linux software raid (recommended) any of the two should work
[16:19] <detrix> bastidrazor: thanx.  I think that will work.
[16:19] <bazhang> erxin, right click on desktop, change desktop background, then go to tab marked 'visual effects'
[16:19] <erUSUL> !raid | JoeM
[16:20] <xtalmath> so I tied using fstab, it just seems like boottime mount command options... and the permissions faq is about setting permissions... file permissions has a paragraph on volumes, but it refers to umask in fstab faq. There umask is only about ntfs and vfat, not about ext3
[16:20] <misteralexander> Slart:  That's exactly what I mean, everything seems to depend on everything else . . . it's beyond irritating . . . that you know of (or anyone reading this), is there some magical thing to type [  sudo apt-get install depedencies ndiswrapper  ] to just make it work?  I'll be trying to satisfy dependencies for days if I do it one by one!
[16:20] <erxin> rightclick dont work on my desktop thats strange too
[16:20] <bastidrazor> detrix, be sure to save to X configuration when done.. there is an option to do that. that will ensure it saves. you will also get prompted to merge or make new xorg.conf .. i tend to make new but that is your call
[16:20] <bazhang> erxin, right click does not work? what about alt-f2
[16:20] <JoeM> erUSUL Trying it through the alternate cd as software raid now... hopefully this will work
[16:20] <karamella> hi indus
[16:21] <erxin> Alt F2 works, but i need right click on my desktop too to create quicklaunchers
[16:21] <Slart> misteralexander: why is that irritating? apt-get will only install the stuff you need to run the program..  the base stuff should already be installed
[16:21] <karamella> r u still here
[16:22] <bazhang> erxin, your mouse is not functioning at all?
[16:22] <erxin> mouse works fine
[16:22]  * {H} &
[16:22]  * {H} &2
[16:22] <xtalmath> erUSUL: still not clear how to set volume permissions for ext3 (whether fstab or manual mount)
[16:22] <FloodBot2> {H}: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <ziroday> !offline | misteralexander
[16:22] <bazhang> {H}, stop that
[16:22] <erxin> but there is somehting wrong with my desktop and compiz settings i think, there is no function to reset
[16:23] <bazhang> erxin, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[16:23] <erUSUL> xtalmath: easiest way is to create folders on the volume as root then give those folders the apropiate owners permissions
[16:23] <erUSUL> !permissions | xtalmath
[16:23] <{H}> umm, ok
[16:23] <erxin> my numeric keys right on m y kebyoard dont work anymore too
[16:23] <xtalmath> I just went to the page, but I wouldnt like to have to change to root everytime I make a folder on the drive
[16:23] <bazhang> erxin, please try this command first
[16:24] <erxin> i did
[16:24] <misteralexander> Slart:  Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  For instance, the target computer needs "dpkg", which has nearly 30 dependencies itself.  Either I download just dpkg, or I (to "save" time) download them all, and THEN each of THOSE things has 20 dependencies, that's the irritating part.
[16:24] <bastidrazor> misteralexander,  you could also look at package.ubuntu.com .. for example   http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9  notice it shows the dependencies
[16:24] <techqbert> Is there any feasible way to stream over NFS/OpenVPN a 480p video on a consumer-grade comcast line withou tthe video stuttering?  I'd like to downsample in flash
[16:24] <erxin> some windows opened and closed, i returned back to this window
[16:24] <bazhang> erxin, now try right clicking
[16:24] <Slart> misteralexander: ahh.. but you create the synaptic script on the computer that needs the packages... then it will just download the stuff that it needs
[16:25] <erxin> nope it dont work
[16:25] <Graviton> erxin: Try checking if mouse keys have been enabled in System > Preferences > Mouse Keys, it has happened to me several times
[16:25] <erUSUL> xtalmath: other option is to change the owner of the mount point
[16:25] <xtalmath> chown the mount directory?
[16:25] <misteralexander> Okay, i'll just hold my breath & try it.
[16:25] <bazhang> erxin, is this problematic hardware? bluetooth kb and mouse? when did this problem first flare up?
[16:25] <misteralexander> Slart: Okay, i'll just hold my breath & try it.
[16:26] <JoeM> grrr, someone hates me
[16:27] <MrPockets> I've got a dynamic IP
[16:27] <MrPockets> on Ubuntu
[16:28] <MrPockets> and i need to set it staticlaly, in the CLi
[16:28] <MrPockets> halp?
[16:28] <wers> quick question: I need to setup a static IP add for my iPod touch. what would be a valid one? I tried <IP_ADDRESS> . it was really stuck to that IP but it broke my internet connection
[16:29] <Slart> wers: 192.168.X.X should work nicely
[16:29] <tvburger> Hi all, I need to install Xdmx, but can't find the package for it. What is it called?
[16:29] <Graviton> MrPockets: edit /etc/network/interfaces as described here: http://www.sematopia.com/?p=50
[16:29] <Slart> !find xdmx
[16:29] <wers> Slart, any other rule? no 1 or 0 no avoid?
[16:29] <meglo> I downloaded gstreamer codecs for mp3 through Totem and they play fine, but for some reason Rhythmbox is choking on mp3's when I try to import them: "The GStreamer plugins to decode "MP3" files cannot be found"
[16:29] <zeroXten> hmm
[16:30] <need_help> wers u need to use private address not public
[16:30] <meglo> I guess I'll see what happens after the importing is done.
[16:30] <need_help> wers as i see
[16:30] <need_help> hello need help was studying i need to know Xinetd.d use for what? if i put file in this directory? Thx =)
[16:30] <meglo> But it is filling up with annoying errors.
[16:30] <Slart> wers: <IP_ADDRESS> is a good start.. I don't think you're allowed to have <IP_ADDRESS>  though
[16:30] <tvburger> ubottu: to bad, not on my machine. which ubuntu version?
[16:30] <bazhang> tvburger, xdmx in the repos
[16:30] <Slart> !info xdmx | tvburger
[16:31] <wers> Slart, got that. just have to avoid having the same ip as other devices. thanks
[16:31] <meglo> It is also trying to search for codecs on other non-media files from MIME type... they should have a white-list of proper media files it doesn't import improperly.
[16:33] <Brekitz> I open Ubuntu Studio controls. I close Ubuntu Studio controls. I try to open it again and it tells me (in so many words) that it's already running. No fair.
[16:33] <MrPockets> God it. Thanks friend!
[16:33] <Graviton> No problem
[16:33] <tvburger> bit of new be question: so it's available, but not on my hardy version. How to get the 'optional' package?
[16:33] <wers> Slart, it also broke my internet access :| if i use more conventional ip adds they dont remain static
[16:33] <whatvn> Brekitz, try to "grep" it, then kill its process
[16:34] <Slart> wers: try using <IP_ADDRESS> instead.. <IP_ADDRESS> is a common default for home routers and such
[16:34] <need_help> wers what the ip of the ipod ? or the one u r trying to connect with ?
[16:34] <bazhang> tvburger, not available in hardy repos
[16:35] <JoeM> is it possible to grow a software RAID 0 array, ie add disks without losing data?
[16:35] <bk|work> I have a question abouta dvd version of ubuntu or a cd version of ubuntu, whats the difference between the isos?
[16:35] <Brekitz> what's the process name?
[16:35] <Slart> bk|work: more packages on the dvd.. that's all afaik
[16:35] <whatvn> Brekitz, ps -ef|grep -i control or something like that
[16:35] <bazhang> tvburger, intrepid is the earliest it appears
[16:36] <whatvn> Brekitz, I dont use Ubuntu studio center
[16:36] <Martin31> sebsebseb were you the one who helped me with my partitions/separatehome
[16:36] <Emery> is 9.04 the newest version ?
[16:36] <Slart> Emery: yes
[16:36] <bazhang> Emery, yep
[16:36] <wers> need_help, i trie <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, etc. the one i'm trying to connect with? usual <IP_ADDRESS> but i'm confused because we have a wifi connected to a wired router :|
[16:37] <Slart> Emery: 9.10 will be available in month 10 of 2009.. ie october
[16:37] <xtalmath> erUSUL: thanks, indeed sudo chown -R username mountpoint
[16:37] <Paddy_NI_> Is there anything apart from running a constant ping that could keep my mobile broadband connection alive or from going idle (disconnecting)?
[16:37] <sebsebseb> Martin31: I don't remember your name, but I done that kind of thing before
[16:37] <whatvn> wers, which one is dhcp server?
[16:37] <Brekitz> 29767 29749  0 11:36 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i control     ...now what?
[16:37] <Emery> Slart, ok
[16:37] <need_help> wers if the AP have ip <IP_ADDRESS> and subnet /24 , then use ip: <IP_ADDRESS> and subnet <IP_ADDRESS> and default gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:38] <Martin31> my name before was martin__
[16:38] <sebsebseb> Martin31: helped people with that kind of thing
[16:38] <bk|work> Slart: ok, but if I download the dvd iso of ubuntu server (im wanting to use LAMP) itll just give me more packages right, is it a waste of space or are certain things useful (like ill want ssh and other sorts)
[16:38] <Martin31> but i did the separatehome tutorial and i still have low free space
[16:38] <VeDosis> can anyone point me in the right direction for saslauthd help?
[16:38] <Martin31> but i have another partition now formatted in ext3 with 20 gb space
[16:38] <fccf> need_help: you might try subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:38] <donks> if any one could help, i have wiped the ubuntu partition on my pc, getting the grub error17, i have d/l the net book remix and it wont brun to a disk im using mac it keeps giving me an error tryed super grub boot disc, also tryed various windows cds and different drives to make sure, i am really stuck here any syggestions?
[16:39] <need_help> fccf huh! there is no such like this subnet
[16:39] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ah ha just now you mean,  right  I ended up doing something else
[16:39] <Slart> bk|work: if you have a normal internet connection I would say downloading the dvd isn't that useful.. you can get the same packages (or newer
[16:39] <Slart> bk|work: if you have a normal internet connection I would say downloading the dvd isn't that useful.. you can get the same packages (or newer) from the online repositories
[16:39] <Martin31> sebsebseb: hah but can you help me ? :S
[16:39] <bk|work> Slart: ok, ill try them both out and see if there is a difference, thanks
[16:40] <sebsebseb> Martin31: probably
[16:40] <fanta_> Hello
[16:40] <Martin31> when i go to computer and right click Filesystem and go to Properties it shows free space 6.8 MB
[16:40] <sebsebseb> Martin31: you made a seperate home?
[16:40] <Martin31> yes
[16:40] <Brekitz> whatvn, What does "grep" mean?
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok upload a screenshot of gparted and give me the link
[16:41] <roobly_roo> Where could I get an ext3 driver for Windows?
[16:41] <Martin31> ok
[16:41] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: why do you want it?
[16:41] <whatvn> Brekitz, this process named ubuntustudio-controls
[16:41] <humbolt> I am having huge trouble running jaunty on an acer revo (with nvidia ION chipset). WLAN does not work and I am not able to use nvidia's proprietary drivers.
[16:41] <hrehf-> hrmm, i'm trying to compile the intel video driver, but autoconf fails with a libdrm >= 2.4.11 dependency ("No package 'libdrm' found"). Anything i can do about that?
[16:41] <roobly_roo> sebsebseb: So I can mount and read ext3 file systems...
[16:41] <whatvn> Brekitz, man grep
[16:41] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: well yeah, but why do you want to from Windows?
[16:42] <Brekitz> hmm.. makes sense
[16:42] <imbezol> anyone know if quotas work on ext4 in jaunty? i found this and my version matches the non working version: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quota/+bug/334474
[16:42] <roland> so how do you enable WMA playback in Rhythmbox?
[16:42] <imbezol> it would seem like something from may should have been fixed if it's a simple version bump but i can't get them to work
[16:42] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: also I would suggest not using that driver  to  read  your /    or  /home if you have a seperate  home,  only to use it for an actsaul data only partiton, which you would share between the two OS's
[16:42] <roobly_roo> sebsebseb: This isn't a question of why I want to, but where I can find such a driver.
[16:42] <ikt> roland: are gstreamer codecs installed?
[16:42] <Martin31> sebsebseb: http://i39.tinypic.com/2s6mz9u.png
[16:43] <dmsuperman> How can I see which people are connected to my SSH server?
[16:43] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: well  I just gave you a good tip,  also some people  woudn't even recommend that driver in the first place
[16:43] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  roobly_roo
[16:43] <tvburger> should I use 32 or 64 bit version for Intel Core 2 Extreme CPU X9650  ?
[16:43] <sebsebseb> tvburger: how much RAM?
[16:43] <ikt> dmsuperman: the command: who
[16:43] <sebsebseb> tvburger: and you sure the computer does 64bit?
[16:43] <Slart> tvburger: how much memory
[16:44] <Martin31> sebsebseb: http://i39.tinypic.com/2s6mz9u.png
[16:44] <tvburger> Currently 4GB.
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yeah I got it the first time
[16:44] <Slart> tvburger: 64bit then
[16:44] <tvburger> ah. ok.
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Martin31: I was on the verge of going on, when you gave a second time
[16:44] <Martin31> oh sorry
[16:44] <sebsebseb> np
[16:44] <Martin31> thought you had missed it xD
[16:45] <roland> ikt: there are lots of gstreamer* stuff installed
[16:45] <sebsebseb> Martin31: your partitions are pretty wrong really
[16:46] <fanta_> whats a good dock to use..
[16:46] <donks> any help please?
[16:46] <sebsebseb> fanta_: avant window manager or cario dock which they say is better
[16:46] <sebsebseb> !details |  donks
[16:46] <Martin31> yeah i know i always sucked at hard drive stuff
[16:46] <roobly_roo> sebsebseb: I appreciate your concern, and more so appreciate the link.  I'm doing something outside of the normal practice.
[16:47] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: which is?
[16:47] <ikt> roland: if you search add/remove programs for wma, is that particular plugin installed? I've never had a problem playing wma files tbh
[16:47] <ikt> at last resort I'd just plain convert them to mp3
[16:48] <roobly_roo> Testing my companies software's abillity to mount different file systems from backups of virtual machines.  My main concern was with UFS, but I also want ext3 and reiserfs.
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Martin31: new to Ubuntu?
[16:48] <donks> sebsebseb, ok i deleted the ubuntu partition now i get a grub erroe 17, i d/l the net bk remix but with my mac i cannot get it to burn to a disc, also tryed my win discs, no luck and also super grub cd no luck also im really stuck with this
[16:48] <sebsebseb> donks: oh this is on a Mac?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> donks: on  a PC  it's simple,  you just  install  Windows for example, and it goes over  Grub
[16:49] <donks> sebsebseb: the linux was on a pc
[16:49] <Martin31> sebsebseb: very. been using winxp for like 6 years
[16:49] <sebsebseb> donks: you got rid of Ubuntu?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> donks: why?
[16:49] <donks> sebsebseb: my pc wont boot from the win disc, i have changed the boot order and tryed 2 drives
[16:49] <Martin31> still not completely understanding all the ext3 home and root stuff
[16:49] <Guest413> hello all
[16:50] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok you know NTFS or Fat32 in Windows?
[16:50] <Roland> how to make rhythmox play WMA files? gstreamer+plugins seem to be installed
[16:50] <donks> sebsebseb: i was going to install win 7 so i re partitioned my second drive then i was going to put both on
[16:50] <sebsebseb> Roland:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras that should take care of that, as well as other things
[16:50] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yes
[16:50] <sebsebseb> donks: ok install Windows first
[16:50] <sebsebseb> donks: then put Ubuntu back on, that's the easiest way to do it
[16:51] <Roland> sebsebseb: rrestricted extras are installed
[16:51] <donks> sebsebseb: it wont install that the prob cant get any cd to boot just get the insert media error
[16:51] <Ahadiel> Roland, Do you have w32codecs installed?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> donks: no CD's will boot up at all?
[16:51] <donks> sebsebseb: thats right
[16:52] <sebsebseb> donks: ok sounds like a hardware error   tell  them that in ##hardware
[16:52] <Roland> Ahadiel: yes, w64codecs are installed
[16:52] <Ahadiel> Roland, Hrm...
[16:52] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yep those are the file systems
[16:52] <fanta_> how would  i go about mapping my laptop drives to my pc?
[16:52] <Ahadiel> Roland, Have you tried any other players the aforementioned wma files?
[16:53] <Ahadiel> Roland, with the**
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Ext3 is the current default  for most Linux distributions,  however  Ext4  is already the default in Fedora 11 :)  and will be in the next version of Ubuntu
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Martin31: the default in next Ubuntu, but for full support people need to clean install
[16:53] <Martin31> sebsebseb: so ill need to reformat when the next ubuntu comes out to get ext4
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Martin31: for full suppourt yes
[16:54] <sigvelien> im trying to install the artwiz fonts in ubuntu, and everything is fine, until the last part, where i type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" - then nothing happens. shouldnt i be prompted some questions?
[16:54] <donks> sebsebseb: is there anything else i could try?
[16:54] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, what do you mean by "full support" ?
[16:54] <kantxx> anyone know why wbinfo -u cant find users until i restart wbinfo service?
[16:54] <scunizi> sigvelien: nope
[16:54] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: the  Ext3  to Ext4  isn't quite the real thing
[16:54] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, why?
[16:55] <sigvelien> hmm? according to this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-artwiz-fonts-in-ubuntu.html - i should
[16:55] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well the only problem i really have now is not enough disk space. i tried to do the separate home but i still have only like 6 mb free
[16:55] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: Google it or something,  I have read articles and such,  or  search http://www.linuxtoday.com for the Ext4 articles or something,  I am helping  Martin31 :)
[16:56] <hrehf-> I'm trying to compile the intel video driver, but autoconf fails with a libdrm >= 2.4.11 dependency ("No package 'libdrm' found"). my libdrm2 package is version "2.4.11+git20090519.f355ad89-0ubuntu0sarvatt~jaunty", but i can't try to switch to 2.4.11-0ubuntu1 because that wants to uninstall e.g. xorg :/ anything i can do to have the autoconf script run?
[16:56] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yep we are going to get all that sorted out
[16:56] <Ahadiel> kklimonda, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ext4
[16:56] <Roland> Ahadiel: ok, tried Exaile, and it plays
[16:56] <Martin31> sweet
[16:56] <Ahadiel> kklimonda, They mention the pros/cons of converting ext3 to ext4
[16:56] <Brekitz> whatvn, launchpad Bug #395803
[16:56] <imbezol> is it possible to add the karmic repo for only one package?
[16:56] <Ahadiel> Roland, Hrm, I think Exaile uses gstreamer as well
[16:56] <sebsebseb> Martin31: before you can do proper partition stuff, you need to be on the Ubuntu Live CD really though
[16:57] <Ahadiel> Roland, Weird.
[16:57] <sebsebseb> Martin31: for example you can't resize the /    when Ubuntu is running it
[16:57] <whatvn> Brekitz, I dont think it's a bug, just an process didn't fully stop
[16:57] <Martin31> sebsebseb: i know thats what i did when i took the 20gb from one partition and made it into a new ext3 partition
[16:57] <Roland> Ahadiel: after trying to play a random wma faile in rhythmbox you can't play any other filetype until you restart the application
[16:57] <scunizi> sigvelien: that was written 2 years ago. subpixel font handling etc has improved a lot.. those same options can be see in one of the menu items off System>Admin... The real question is DO you have access to the fonts?
[16:57] <sebsebseb> imbezol: don't do that,  things can mess up
[16:57] <Martin31> sebsebseb: and after that i changed that into the new home
[16:57] <whatvn> Brekitz, just kill its process and everything will be ok
[16:57] <Ahadiel> Roland, could be a bug
[16:58] <Ahadiel> Roland, Maybe check launchpad
[16:58] <kklimonda> Ahadiel, at least extents are working when you convert ext3 to ext4.. and extents aren't compatible with ext3 so the reasoning in Cons of converting isn't right
[16:58] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok your on a Live CD now?
[16:58] <imbezol> sebsebseb: then what's the proper way to install that one package?
[16:58] <sebsebseb> imbezol: which package is it? and there may be a ppa for it
[16:58] <GJ> Anyone here used Kile before to create LaTeX files? I just installed it via 'add-remove' and when I try to preview my code, I get kinda stuck. When I click preview selection or compile, or anything, I have no clue at all about how to view it
[16:58] <sigvelien> scunizi, yea. i do
[16:58] <Martin31> sebsebseb: no, ill be right back, have to reboot ;)
[16:58] <imbezol> sebsebseb: quota
[16:58] <sebsebseb> !ppa >  imbezol
[16:58] <imbezol> sebsebseb: what's a ppa?
[16:58] <sebsebseb> imbezol: I haven't heard of your program
[16:59] <sebsebseb> Martinp23: ok
[16:59] <scunizi> sigvelien: good.. check this link for future reference.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[16:59] <Kjell> GJ: try alt + f2
[16:59] <imbezol> sebsebseb: quota is a standard linux utility to manage user and group quota
[16:59] <vise> Hi.. How do i insert a binary file1 into a binary file0 at a given offset?
[17:00]  * dreimark ubuntu-desktop (from kubuntu) seems to have unresolved dependcies currently
[17:00] <imbezol> sebsebseb: and ppa doesn't sound like what i want.. i'm not uploading anything.. it's something that's already fixed in karmic
[17:00] <sebsebseb> imbezol: no ppa's are so you can get later versions of programs,  without having to wait for the next Ubuntu release
[17:00] <derekS> i want to see how much we use? i want to see how much I use?
[17:01] <need_help`> is LVM use as extend parition from 5 and above?
[17:01] <imbezol> need_help`: no.. lvm has little to do with partitions
[17:02] <imbezol> need_help`: you don't even need partitions on the disks
[17:02] <imbezol> need_help`: though you can add partitions as PVs if you like
[17:02] <GJ> But Kjell, when I have some tex code written, and when I compile it or anything, where do I view it? Shouldn't need a command for that :D
[17:02] <need_help`> imbezol  thx got any link can help me to understand it?
[17:03] <Kjell> GJ: you can use kdvi to view the files you compiled
[17:03] <CowboyXhema> if you want, i can write that
[17:03] <Roland> Ahadiel: seems like it's a known bug that rhythmbox doesn't play wma files when crossfading is enabled.(9.04)
[17:03] <imbezol> need_help`: if you google LVM howto there are tonnes of them
[17:03] <Roland> Ahadiel: thnx anyway :P
[17:03] <GJ> I can't preview them directly from inside Kile?
[17:03] <imbezol> need_help`: you need to get a grip on the basic layout of LVM and then it'll be easy
[17:04] <Ahadiel> Roland, np
[17:04] <imbezol> need_help`: PVs, VGs, LVs,
[17:04] <Kjell> GJ: kile will open kdvi
[17:04] <Martin31> sebsebseb: okay im on the live cd
[17:04] <wers> how do i know my dhcp range?
[17:05] <Kjell> GJ: kile just edit the code
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Ubuntu only on there now yes?
[17:05] <CowboyXhema> how can i see the install history of aptitude? what packages where installed/deinstalled when?
[17:05] <Flare183> Did someone ping me?
[17:05] <Martin31> sebsebseb: what do you mean ? I still have a windows partition
[17:05] <alan_> i'm trying to get WEP working with an NDISwrapped wireless card. I think I'm doing something wrong with wpa_supplicant. Would someone be willing to walk me through it?
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yes I am wondering what downloads is
[17:06] <DawnLight> in what language are kernel modules written, please?
[17:06] <GJ> Kjell: Don't think I got kdvi installed, leme do some diggin' and try to find if I can set it to fire up another program
[17:06] <Martin31> sebsebseb: I have four hard drives that just the one with ubuntu
[17:06] <th0r> DawnLight: C
[17:06] <scunizi> alan_: why bother.. web is useless.. you'd be better off implementing wireless restrictions by mac address and turning off broadcasting.
[17:06] <evonise`emp> hey guys, i have talker here before on problems while installing: but still my laptop wont install ubuntu from the alternate iso: it freezes at 28%: Preparing cups. what can i do?
[17:06] <DawnLight> thanks th0r
[17:06] <sebsebseb> Martin31: and your NTFS Downloads partition which is being used by Windows and Ubuntu?
[17:06] <Kjell> GJ: you likely have the unifide program then. alt + f1 should open it
[17:07] <Martin31> sebsebseb: the windows partition is on a completely different hard drive. its on /dev/sda1
[17:07] <alan_> scunizi -
[17:07] <Roland> What kind of encryption does the OTR plugin for pidgin use?
[17:07] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone recommend an easy to use web development application for someone with limited experience with web development. I did my first website with FrontPage but eventually it broke my site beyond repair and I had to start again from scratchI did a website with html and css but the navigation was a nightmare to maintain as it had to be copied into the top of every page. Before that I used Frontpage until it broke my site. I understand Dream
[17:07] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok, but is the Downloads partition being used by both OS's?
[17:07] <Brekitz> Okay we're good. Thanks, whatvn
[17:07] <GJ> Kjell: alt f1 or alt f2 just launch up my Programs and Command line from Ubuntu, they're not Kile keys.
[17:08] <Martin31> sebsebseb: I dont think so, its empty anyway
[17:08] <alan_> scunizi - this is my folk's network, and they have a lot of random laptops come through that they want to give immediate access
[17:08] <GJ> Kjell: when using them inside Kile*
[17:08] <alan_> scunizi, but still have some semblance of protection; i know, i've told them too
[17:08] <sebsebseb> Martin31: If  that drive is meant to be your Linux drive, why have you got a NTFS  partition?
[17:08] <netbios139> is it neccesary to be proficient in swahili to install Ubuntu?
[17:08] <bazhang> netbios139, of course not
[17:08] <netbios139> thanks Got
[17:08] <Martin31> sebsebseb: because i dont want to use the whole 1TB for just an ubuntu drive
[17:09] <GJ> Kjell: Aha found how to get it working :) Thanks alot
[17:09] <Kjell> GJ: ok the new viewer is called okular which should be install when you installed kile. otherwise you can use evince to view the files
[17:09] <bullgard4> Does http://paste.debian.net/41167 give a hint why I have only an unidirectional connection to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:09] <ratkymarcell> hi! how can I "unmount" a special usb device, which seems to be at /dev/ttyUSB0, and cannot be unmounted, because it dont need to be mounted at all? It's a microcontroller programming unit, and I'd like to have acces to it via a virtualboxed XP. That's why [host] ubuntu has to release it...
[17:09] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yes I thought it would be  something like that, well here's the thing,   most later Linux's can read and write to NTFS no problem, as long as Windows shut it down, but there is also a driver for Windows to read Ext3
[17:09] <GJ> Kjell Yep Okular is what it uses :)
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Martin31: so you might want to change that to an Ext3  partition and use  the driver for Windows,  but it does not really matter that much
[17:10] <JonathanEllis> Damn pressed enter too soon! Can anyone recommend an easy to use web development application for someone with limited experience with web development? Back in my Microsoft days I did my first website with FrontPage but eventually it broke my site beyond repair and I had to start again from scratch. So then I used html and css but the navigation was a nightmare to maintain as it had to be copied into the top of every page. I have heard that Qu
[17:10] <netbios139> so there ist Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, but i still haven't found Wubuntu?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  Martin31
[17:10] <bazhang> netbios139, what is wubuntu
[17:10] <GJ> Or Bubuntu, netbios139 :D
[17:10] <Martin31> sebsebseb: might be a good idea, ill do that
[17:10] <Kjell> GJ: but you can change what it launch it its settup. I find that kdvi is much better for image viewing
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Martin31: It's Windows XP yes?
[17:10] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yes it is
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Martin31: and  I would advice not to let Windows read and write to your  /  or  /home
[17:11] <netbios139> so there ist Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, but i still haven't found Wubuntu?
[17:11] <GJ> Kjell Ok I'll take a look at that ^
[17:11] <bazhang> netbios139, do you have a support question, or just wish to chat?  #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[17:11] <WDC> Hello
[17:11] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well i really plan on not using windows at all, if i get ubuntu all set up
[17:11] <netbios139> Wubuntu , could be a great Idea for a new Release,
[17:11] <bazhang> !ot > netbios139
[17:11] <WDC> I am having a pretty annoying problem. I just switched OSes, and my old Ubuntu ecryptfs will not mount correctly. Would someone please help?
[17:12] <GJ> Kjell: One more quick question, when I compile the .tex file and stuff it should create some other files too (log file, .aux file etc), where do those end up?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> th0r: Did you see his screenshot?   You didn't have to pm me about his drive,  if you have suggestions for his drive as well,  he may appreciate you telling him
[17:12] <netbios139> I'm using irssi from cmd, now idea how to read private messages!
[17:12] <WDC> netbios139, you use alt+the number of the window
[17:12] <bazhang> netbios139, take chat elsewhere
[17:13] <scunizi> netbios139: alt right arrow to get to the next window.. or alt and the window number
[17:13] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations!
[17:13] <sebsebseb> Martin31: you can move data around no problem at the moment?  or onto an external hard disk?
[17:13] <Kjell> GJ: in the same folder .tex file is
[17:13] <wers> Slart, apparently, i needed a one that is not along my dhcp range. so there are two requirements, something that will remain static and is not along the dhcp range. how do I know? hehe
[17:14] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yes i can move it around, but i just cant use the Update Manager because theres no space left
[17:14] <scunizi> wers: if you
[17:14] <WDC> Somebody please help? what's the syntax to mount my private directory
[17:14] <scunizi> wers: if you
[17:14] <Slart> wers: what ip do you have on your desktop computer? type "ifconfig" in a terminal to find out
[17:14] <scunizi> fat fingers
[17:14] <FloodBot2> scunizi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <Slart> hehe.. the bots are coming for you, scunizi ;)
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yeah  I was thinking if   it was worth doing something slightly special  to make  the  9.10 clean install easier, once that's out,   but does not sound like it in this case.   Ok this is easy to sort your partitions out
[17:15] <Martin31> sebsebseb: it doesnt make sense to me that theres no space left, i thought after i did that separate home there would be more
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Martin31: your / is to small way to small that's the issue
[17:15] <wers> Slart, <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:15] <Martin31> sebsebseb: so thats why my separate home didnt work, because i only changed that and not /
[17:15] <wers> scunizi, ?
[17:15] <GJ> Kjell: Ok thanks!
[17:15] <Slart> wers: then go with <IP_ADDRESS> for your iphone
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Ubuntu put's itself and the programs and such on /
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Martin31: /  would be like  C  in  Windows with  Home being D
[17:16] <Slart> wers: you can basically change anything but the 10... so <IP_ADDRESS> would also work
[17:16] <Kjell> GJ: btw was it alt + 1 or alt + f1?
[17:16] <scunizi> wers: if you're trying to set a static ip in a dhcp environment you should be able to do that.  Make the computer that is static high up in the ip range for dhcp on your router.. so if the last address is <IP_ADDRESS> .. then make it that. In other words, keep static addresses high up and let dhcp take care of the lower addresses ..
[17:16] <meoblast001> hi.. i'm very confused with the CGI in Ubuntu
[17:16] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well i let ubuntu have a whole 1 tb drive to make all its partitions on i wonder why it made its own / partition so small >S
[17:16] <GJ> Kjell: Forgot to check honestly, but alt+f1 fired up my Ubuntu applications menu (from the panel)
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yeah those guided installs aren't perfect, they can go wrong
[17:17] <scunizi> meoblast001: ?
[17:17] <miik> :)
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Martin31: a lot more control if you  set up the partitions yourself :)
[17:17] <meoblast001> suppose i have a file irc.cgi at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/cgiirc and want to access it.... do i go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
[17:17] <Kjell> GJ: alt+1 then
[17:17] <wers> Slart and scunizi thanks :)
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Martin31: how much RAM do you have by the way?
[17:17] <meoblast001> i'm getting 404s
[17:17] <Martin31> sebsebseb: 2 GB
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Martin31: it's also given you a really stupid sized swap
[17:18] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yeah i read that something about that
[17:18] <daysaver> hello
[17:18] <Martin31> sebsebseb: what should i change it to be
[17:18] <wers> Slart, cant go online with <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:18] <wers> this is really odd
[17:18] <sebsebseb> Martin31: SWAP  well  in Windows it's known as virtual memory,  with 2GB RAM it really isn't needed,  unless your going to attempt to hibernate/sleep/suspend and then it should be double your RAM
[17:18] <derekS> is there a a tool like powertop to estimate desktop power usage for an old desktop?
[17:19] <Slart> wers: are you using some kind of router/gateway thingy?
[17:19] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well im not gonna hibernate and all that
[17:19] <Martin31> so is the swap fine for me as it is _
[17:19] <Slart> derekS: powertop should work for older desktops too.. or it doesn't ?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> Martin31: well then you can just delete it, and you should still be fine,  I ran  without  SWAP and 1GB  RAM before, pretty well indeed
[17:19] <wers> Slart, i have a wifi router connected to a wired router which is connected to my dsl
[17:19] <sebsebseb> !swap |  Martin31
[17:19] <derekS> Slart: i don't think apcm is working...
[17:20] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Do what you want regarding SWAP,  it really isn't important in your case
[17:20] <derekS> Slart: powertop tells me it can't get any readouts?
[17:20] <karamella> hi indus
[17:20] <zini3> I just had a very strange crash. Suddenly the screen went white (and the NumLock key locked up). I guess some of the system was still running, because I could hear Pidgin sound effects. But there was no way out of it and so I had to physically shut the box down.
[17:20] <Slart> wers: it's probably something that the router is doing then
[17:20] <derekS> Slart: err acpi
[17:20] <Slart> derekS: oh... yea.. that might make sense.. not sure if there is anything else out there.. I've only used powertop myself
[17:20] <scunizi> wers: where did you put that number <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:20] <zini3> Is there any way to find out what has happened?
[17:20] <Martin31> sebsebseb: i'm just going to leave the swap there, it doesnt bother me
[17:20] <karamella> any one can tell me how to make clean up system
[17:20] <wers> scunizi, static ip for ipod touch
[17:21] <derekS> Slart: " Detailed C-state information is only available on Mobile CPUs (laptops)"
[17:21] <netbios139> anyone know a good tutorial how to deploy XEN on Ubuntu?
[17:21] <C-S-B__> zini3: check dmesg?
[17:21] <sebsebseb> Martin31: and the extended  is a container.   as  far as I know you don't really need one unless having four or more partitions
[17:21] <scunizi> wers: that's not a valid ip address. try <IP_ADDRESS> and see what happens
[17:21] <sebsebseb> Martin31: however those guided installs seem to like to make extended's if people need them or not
[17:22] <zini3> C-S-B__: How do I do that? (only on Linux for 48h now)
[17:22] <sebsebseb> Martin31: so extended sometimes has to be used, because of the amount of partitions,  and  then they go in the extended
[17:22] <scunizi> wers: depending on how the router defaults you might need to <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:22] <C-S-B__> zini3:  dmesg | tail
[17:22] <C-S-B__> that will show you some of the last log entries
[17:22] <sebsebseb> Martin31: it was suggested by that other person,  to  have a seperate home, but you don't really need one
[17:23] <Martin31> sebsebseb: im formatting my old windows partition and reattaching it to the other partition on that drive, and it says 3 hours remaining :(
[17:23] <wers> scunizi, still cant go online. i'm on a netgear. it's ip is <IP_ADDRESS> connected to a linksys wired router <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:23] <sebsebseb> Martin31: normalley  I would  make my   /   about  12GB,  and then have a big seperate home
[17:23] <zini3> C-S-B__: http://pastebin.com/m6d95729f
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Martin31: the downloads partition or what do you mean?
[17:24] <Martin31> sebsebseb: what is the separate home for, why is the default one not good enough _
[17:24] <C-S-B__> wers: have you got your gateways correct? why do you have them configured on different networks
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Martin31: formatting means removing data!
[17:24] <scunizi> wers: the netgear is probably not acting as the dhcp server ..the linksys is.
[17:24] <Martin31> sebsebseb: no its on a different drive, and i dont want the windows anymore, and i have all the data backed up
[17:24] <wers> scunizi, btw, the netgear is the wireless, in case i didnt state correctly
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Martin31: your / is to small it's as simple as that, it's just  over  2GB
[17:25] <Martin31> okay, and since i already made a separate home should i keep that or move back _
[17:25] <th0r>  Martin31 with a separate home directory you can totally reinstall ubuntu and not lose any of your configs or data
[17:25] <wers> C-S-B__, i dont know. sorry. hehe
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Martin31: really  /'s should be about 8GB,   with netbooks being the exception when they only have like 4GB space, but also there's a special version for netbooks anyway
[17:25] <C-S-B__> zini3: nothing bad in your log... you can look through them all in administration ->log file viewer
[17:26] <C-S-B__> wers: i would recommend getting all your devices on the same network.
[17:26] <Martin31> okay so i will keep my separate home for the next ubuntu
[17:26] <C-S-B__> <IP_ADDRESS> network would suffice
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Martin31: it's fine to keep that seperate home for now, as long as Ubuntu is using it no problem
[17:26] <meglo> What are the standard programs for ripping and burning disks? Versions before Jaunty had Brasero and Sound Juicer... but these didn't seem to install for 9.04. Is the functionality now embedded with Nautilus or something?
[17:26] <scunizi> wers: yea.. I got that.. typically when you have a seperate wireless adaptor connected to a wired router, the wireless needs to be in a "re-broadcasting" type mode.. I forgot the actual term.. but basically the wireless gets it's ip and the ip for all connected devices from the primary router responsible for that.. ie your linksys
[17:26] <Martin31> anyways thanks for the help sebsebseb im going to eat dinner now
[17:27] <th0r> meglo: brasero is still there, and I use acidrip for dvds and grip for cds
[17:27] <C-S-B__> wers: as scunizi says, best to have just one dhcp server running
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Martin31: no  you will start over  when 9.10 is out,   guided installs  will do Ext4 by default :)   ,but as I hope you have learnt now, you get much more control  when setting up partitions yourself,  so you will probably do that :)   oh and when I do that,  I tend to  set things up in gparted a bit first, then finnish off in manual install
[17:28] <meglo> th0r: Ok, Brasero is still there. Did Sound Juicer/Audio CD Extractor come with your default install, though? Did you replace it with those programs or did you just add them for lack of the application(or just them being superior?
[17:28] <wers> scunizi, so my ipod touch ip should be based on the wired linksys  right? but all the 192.168 IPs cant go online on my ipod while 10.0.x.x IPs dont remain static :|
[17:28] <th0r> meglo: I installed gnome but run xfce for day to day. I did not delete soundjuicer and it isn't in the menus, so I assume it isn't in gnome either.
[17:28] <wers> C-S-B__, how do I do that?
[17:29] <zini3> C-S-B__: Would this qualify as something bad (in my Log?) http://pastebin.com/m2d827159
[17:29] <th0r> meglo: brasero was there by default...it is I think the default cd/dvd burning software for gnome
[17:29] <th0r> meglo: I think I did have to install acidrip and grip postfacto
[17:29] <meglo> th0r: Interesting. Thanks. Nautilus from GNOME can burn discs it seems, so I suppose Canonical thought Sound Juicer was redundant?
[17:29] <bullgard4> Does http://paste.debian.net/41167 give a hint why I have only an unidirectional connection to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:29] <C-S-B__> zini3 segfaults are bad, but im not sure whats causing them...
[17:30] <C-S-B__> zini3: if it just happened the once, i wouldnt worry so much.
[17:30] <forceflo1> !firefox3.5
[17:30] <zini3> C-S-B__: 3rd time now. Twice in a row today and once yesterday
[17:30] <forceflo1> !firefox 3.5
[17:30] <hzlocky>  hello, how to defin which application is running on port 2 on my machine
[17:30] <albech> is the ubuntu remix only different in the way the desktop is designed?
[17:30] <forceflo1> aww.
[17:31] <C-S-B__> wers: i havent the time at the moment, but essentially use your browser to go to the config page of your ap and router etc and configure from there.
[17:31] <maximo> !hello \ sebsebserb
[17:31] <shani^> Hello friends
[17:31] <maximo> !hello
[17:31] <kbrosnan> !ff35 > forceflo1
[17:31] <C-S-B__> wers: if your stil having trouble tomorrow, i might have a bit of time to sit you through it.
[17:31] <scunizi> wers: the linksys on the general setup page allows you to tell it how many addresses or the range of addresses that are allowed.  It usually defaults to 20 or so.  That would be the entire range the router will allow. the netgear needs to be in (I think its called) a bridged mode.. log into it's setup screen and poke around.. or google.. this really is a #hardware issue and OT for this channel
[17:31] <meglo> th0r: Sorry, I meant Nautilus can rip discs now it seems**, not burning discs. Brasero is still there for this reason.
[17:31] <wers> C-S-B__, thanks :) i'll research more about it. and I hate netgear. lol
[17:31] <C-S-B__> essentially, you dont want the ap to be giving out dhcp address, just the main router.
[17:32] <th0r> meglo: I use Thunar in xfce, and to be honest would use it in gnome as well due to the config possibilities
[17:32] <C-S-B__> wers: and you want them both on the same network. (i use <IP_ADDRESS>/24)
[17:32] <shani^>  Very strange problem in ubuntu 8.10, after security update the system went into read only file system , i hv found many tutorial and remount the harddisk, but now i have the same situtation at startup , and ubuntu misses to remount the harddisk, can any one help me and tell me how i can remount the hard disk on boot. thanx
[17:33] <C-S-B__> wers: the modem will be the default gateway
[17:33] <wers> scunizi, okay. one last thing, i tinker with the linksys or netgear?
[17:33] <Maximo> sebsebseb: hello
[17:33] <scunizi> wers: netgear
[17:33] <meglo> th0r: I was running xubuntu, but it wasn't as powerful(but it was fine to use) as GNOME + related stuff. I'd use Nautilus because of the intense integration still, but people have their preferences and Thunar is a very good file manager.
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Maximo: hi
[17:33] <meoblast001> this is confusing
[17:34] <wers> scunizi, C-S-B__ thanks a lot!
[17:34] <th0r> meglo: I am old school...I want a program to do one thing and only one thing, and I expect it to do that flawlessly
[17:34] <meoblast001> is /usr/lib/cgi-bin the default cgi-bin in Ubuntu?
[17:34] <shani^> Very strange problem in ubuntu 8.10, after security update the system went into read only file system , i hv found many tutorial and remount the harddisk, but now i have the same situtation at startup , and ubuntu misses to remount the harddisk, can any one help me and tell me how i can remount the hard disk on boot. thanx
[17:34] <scunizi> wers: np
[17:34] <FloridaGuy> ubuntu is at firefox 3.0.11...thefirefox site has 3.5....when is ubuntu going to have 3.5
[17:35] <kklimonda> FloridaGuy, when 9.10 is released
[17:35] <aboyz> what time does cron run on? 1 0 * * * ? does it run on 12:01 midnight?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  FloridaGuy  kklimonda
[17:35] <meglo> th0r: I'm way old school, I unwillingly use netbsd(the cat came back from Berkeley waving flags) and stick with my emacs. Just kidding, I don't care about elitism or 'old-school' stuff anymore.
[17:35] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: Ubuntu normalley only do security updates in the repos,  and  well  Firefox 3.5 does not count as one
[17:35] <ARMENIAN> when is firefox 3.5 coming out? damn, it's taking long
[17:35] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, you mean Fx 3.5 will be a default for Jaunty?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: no
[17:36] <sebsebseb> it won't be
[17:36] <sebsebseb> as far as I know
[17:36] <meglo> sebsebseb: What about in 9.04.1 possibly?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> meglo: I don't think there will be one of those either
[17:36] <sebsebseb> since not LTS
[17:36] <th0r> meglo: well....I think 'integration' is adding pontoons to a sports car. I would much rather have the performance than the 'extras'
[17:36] <meglo> It will be in the regular repos by then, sebsebseb, I don't see why they wouldn't...
[17:37] <meglo> sebsebseb: I think if it was LTS they'd be less willing to put a new release in the repos for a core program mid-distro lifetime.
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu is not about  having the very latest stuff,   it's about  having   stability,  and then people can use ppa's or whatever if they want later stuff,  or wait for the next release
[17:37] <derenrich> !ff35
[17:37] <derenrich> it's been that way for a week now...
[17:37] <sebsebseb> there are other distros that are about having the later stuff first :)
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu tends to always be behind those, when it comes to later versions of programs
[17:38] <meglo> sebsebseb: Ubuntu is about usability and a happy medium of features and functionality for desktop users. It doesn't have the latest stuff, and if you're looking for good stability you should be running LTS. For Jaunty I'm unsure of why they wouldn't package FF3.5 in 9.04.1 and will await an official decision unless there already is one.
[17:38] <iamslango> why does the Pidgin buddy list show up in the Window List widget for every workspace, even though I've told it to only show up on the workspace it runs on?
[17:38] <shani^> Very strange problem in ubuntu 8.10, after security update the system went into read only file system , i hv found many tutorial and remount the harddisk, but now i have the same situtation at startup , and ubuntu misses to remount the harddisk, can any one help me and tell me how i can remount the hard disk on boot. thanx
[17:38] <kklimonda> meglo, there won't be a point release for 9.04
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Firefox 3.5 in  Jaunty   as an update from the repo I doubt it
[17:38] <th0r> I installed 3.5 off the mozilla site and just replaced the link in /usr/bin
[17:38] <sebsebseb> espeasilly considering how Open Office 3.0 wasn't in 8.10
[17:38] <sebsebseb> when nearly every other distro had it
[17:39] <meglo> kklimonda: Oh, you're right.
[17:39] <sebsebseb> instead people had to do a ppa for  Open Office  or  install another way, if they wanted it so badly in 8.10
[17:39] <meglo> kklimonda: Moving from debian 4.0r8 and 5.0.3 and stuff :P
[17:39] <kklimonda> meglo, Fx 3.5 is in universe already, I guess it will be updated to stable release when ready
[17:39] <linuxguy2009> Ahh I need some help guys. Im using gtkrecordmydesktop and have a 5min ubuntu tutorial that i have edited together with Pitivi video editor.I put all the clips together with no problem. Now I just did a voiceover with Sound Recorder and I have it done. My problem is that my recording is a mono recording and I cant seem to import it to Pitivi to use for the audio track. Does it need to be a stereo converted track or does Pitivi not suppo
[17:39] <meoblast001> suppose i have a file irc.cgi at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/cgiirc and want to access it.... do i go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
[17:40] <sebsebseb> meglo: make sure you didn't miss what I just said about Open Office 3.0 in 8.10
[17:40] <meglo> sebsebseb: Ok well I suppose it wont be by default in main. But the endorsed repos available will certainly have it, eh?
[17:40] <meglo> sebsebseb: I read.
[17:40] <jakeriver> does anyone know why my firefox is collapsing all the time when flash show starts? i have this newest ubuntu.
[17:40] <bullgard4> Does http://paste.debian.net/41167 give a hint why I have only an unidirectional connection to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:40] <kklimonda> meglo, well, yes - it's already in universe as firefox-3.5 package
[17:40] <linuxguy2009>  jakeriver: Are you using the Adobe flash plugin or one of the free alternatives?
[17:41] <meglo> kklimonda: Ah, yeah.
[17:41] <kklimonda> meglo, it won't be promoted to main for jaunty for sure (also there is no reason to do it anyway)
[17:41] <sebsebseb> meglo: Probably in most Ubuntu developers eyes and  Canoncial  the Firefox 2 series is good  enough,  untill   Karmic  Koala  Ubuntu 9.10  released at the end of October
[17:41] <meglo> kklimonda: I understand that, I assumed that would be how main would operate. I just missed the fact that point releases are for LTS only.
[17:41] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, sure - that's why 8.04 was released with 3.0 beta :P
[17:41] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: ffox offered that installation and i took it. i dont know what is it.
[17:42] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: that would be the exception since it's LTS
[17:42] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: don't just  expect  something that isn't a security update, to be available in  the 9.04 repo
[17:42] <linuxguy2009>  jakeriver: Your using a free flash player thats why your having issues. Go to adobe web site and download and install the deb for 8.04+. That fix ya.
[17:42] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, well, they wouldn't make an exception if 2.x was "good enough"
[17:42] <rsr> hi
[17:42] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, i know how it works.
[17:42] <rsr> can I save evolution memos to be seen on another app?
[17:42] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: okey. i will try that, thank you.
[17:42] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: if you want later stuff first,   use Fedora  11  or something :)
[17:43] <linuxguy2009> welcome
[17:43] <hzlocky> how to define what remote desktop is on port 2 in ubuntu and change its password?
[17:43] <rsr> export evolution memos?
[17:43] <meglo> kklimonda: I used a ppa of ubuntu-mozilla-security to install FF3.5. Would I be able to safely migrate to the betas provided in universe? Just remove the ppa and... 'downgrade' to the universe package?
[17:43] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: should i uninstall this free first somehow?
[17:43] <toehio3> How do I use LILO to boot ubuntu from a  different partition?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: Fedora tend to  have  newer stuff quite a  bit before Ubuntu
[17:43] <kuba_> hello everybody
[17:43] <linuxguy2009>  jakeriver: umm Im not sure how I have never messed with the others. Adobe one might over ride it maybe.
[17:43] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, nah, I'm stuck with ubuntu by my own choice. ;)
[17:43] <C-S-B__> toehio3: is there a reason not to use gnome?
[17:44] <meglo> sebsebseb: I think he knows more about this linux stuff in general than you think.
[17:44] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: okey, let's see what happens.
 do you mean grub?
[17:44] <linuxguy2009> ok
[17:44] <kuba_> is there anyone who has an expirience in network programming with gnutls?
[17:44] <C-S-B__> toehio3: yes, exactly, sorry!
[17:44] <Roland> toehio3: yes, if you want to use some other GUI
[17:44] <linuxguy2009> Nobody does any screencasting or video projects here? Dang.
[17:45] <meglo> kklimonda: Would you happen to know anything about migrating nearly the same package between repos as I described?
[17:45] <J_P> arial.ttf don't have in ubuntu? I try apt-file search arial.ttf and not find.
[17:45] <meglo> I'd like it to drop the bits in without using a PPA, as it would have ubufox, file associations, and the official branding.
[17:46] <sebsebseb> meglo: right so just  install it directly from Mozilla?
[17:46] <meglo> sebsebseb: Err no.
[17:46] <kklimonda> meglo, there is nothing that would prevent you from downgrading them in distribution itself
[17:46] <toehio3> C-S-B__: I am using an intel mac. Ubuntu is installed along with grub on an external drive. I have manged to get lilo working from a cd and want to use it to boot ubuntu.
[17:46] <meglo> sebsebseb: Ah it doesn't matter anyway. I need to get ecryptfs working in the ubiquity installer and do a clean-slate install. kklimonda/sebsebseb I didn't see encrypted /home offered for 9.04 in my installation procedure...
[17:47] <kuba_> I have some questions to gnuTLS, can somebody help me?
[17:47] <kklimonda> meglo, the only problem I can think of is that ppa has newer version of firefox 3.5 that has an incompatible format of data..
[17:47] <toehio3> C-S-B__:  On intel macs you can't directly boot usb so I thought of using lilo because that's all I have right now.
[17:47] <sebsebseb> meglo: it is available on the alternate CD
[17:47] <meglo> kklimonda: Yes, I would have to see if I can downgrade properly.
[17:47] <clonewars> hello there
[17:47] <kklimonda> meglo, firefox is only 3 or 4 packages so it shouldn't be hard
[17:47] <sebsebseb> meglo: downgrading Ubuntu versions can really mess things up,  also downgrading  repo programs might as well
[17:47] <jakeriver> hi
[17:47] <meglo> sebsebseb: But it is also available in Ubiquity from what I hear. I want to use ubiquity for myself and other friends/family. I already did the alt-install but that isn't good for other people.
[17:48] <meoblast001> suppose i have a file irc.cgi at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/cgiirc and want to access it.... do i go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
[17:48] <meglo> sebsebseb: Which is why I'll probably just do a clean reinstall with encrypted /home for cleanliness.
[17:48] <clonewars> now i have an theme installed on ubuntu , but when i create an new user its not there, how do i make it system wid? so that every new user will have that theme
[17:48] <sebsebseb> meglo: it's best to use offical things from Canonical also,  instead of these 3rd party Ubuntu apps
[17:48] <kklimonda> meglo, I've reinstalled 9.04 today and I can't remember having an option to encrypt /home
[17:48] <meglo> sebsebseb: ubuntu-mozilla-security isn't totally 3rd party though
[17:48] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: alternate CD
[17:49] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, yes - but he's talking about desktop cd
[17:49] <meglo> kklimonda: I saw screenshots of a checkbox to do so. ecryptfs allows for using your user account pass as encryption key for /home...
[17:49] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: yes, but I was saying to you that it's available on the alernate
[17:49] <meglo> Which is what i want
[17:49] <karamella>  i wanna a service
[17:49] <kklimonda> meglo, wasn't it from 9.10?
[17:49] <toehio3> C-S-B__: do you know if there are any grub live cds available for download?
[17:49] <meglo> kklimonda: It was on that one linux hardware site that is popular... from various sources it appears that it should be present in 9.04...
[17:50] <meglo> kklimonda: I've asked about this before in here but didn't get an answer.
[17:50] <jamiejackson> how do i get the currently installed version of a package from CLI?
[17:50] <djiezes> fyi, it looks like firefox 3.5 is in the ubuntu repository
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !ff35
[17:51] <meglo> djiezes: A real final, or just beta?
[17:51] <kklimonda> meglo, beta from march
[17:51] <djiezes> meglo: installing now, version says 3.5, not 3.5b4 like before
[17:51] <meglo> djiezes: Interesting...
[17:52] <meglo> I'll backup my profile and bookmarks, remove my PPA and update the repo cache and see
[17:52] <kklimonda> oh, wait
[17:52] <djiezes> meglo: okay, it's shiretoki 3.5, not the beta
[17:52] <kklimonda> 3.5 was just released to jaunty-security
[17:52] <jamiejackson> jamiejackson: dpkg -s <packagename>
[17:53] <jiongye> hi, I tried to set up postfix in ubuntu 8.10, I follow all the default setting when install postfix and mailx, but when I tried to send mail to external, the mail never got sent, but I can send mail to internal users, can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to send mail to external?
[17:53] <kklimonda> I wonder why it doesn't have an official branding though
[17:54] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: the development versions of Firefox  and Thunderbird don't get proper Mozilla branding
[17:54] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, 3.5 was uploaded to jaunty-security today
[17:55] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: well where is it as in an update then?  :D
 meglo: okay, it's shiretoki 3.5, not the beta.
[17:55] <meglo> That is the code-name
[17:55] <meglo> does it have the firefox branding?
[17:55] <meglo> or just the globe...
[17:55] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, if you have firefox-3.5 then you have to wait for mirrors to catch up
[17:55] <meglo> :\
[17:55] <sebsebseb> meglo: the globe is for the deveopment versions
[17:55] <kklimonda> meglo, for some reason it doesn't
[17:55] <mnkchw> leftfb in here ?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> globe = development version
[17:56] <sebsebseb> Firefox logo = final version
[17:56] <meglo> sebsebseb: But it looks like it was upgraded to final. Shouldn't final be a release? It should have official branding - if djiezes has the final I'm wondering if he has branding.
[17:57] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  meglo
[17:57] <karamella> please i need any one help me how to speed up my system and clean up
[17:57] <shift_> Hello, is sound in Ubuntu somehow dependant on gstreamer?
[17:57] <djiezes> meglo & sebsebseb, it's the blue globe, not the firefox icon. but i don't think that's gonna change in jaunty.
[17:57] <meglo> sebsebseb: I have seen that many many many times, thank you once more!
[17:57] <kklimonda> shift_, most gnome applications that somehow work with multimedia are dependent on gstreamer
[17:57] <humbolt> ext4 sucks!
[17:58] <meglo> shift_: No. Gstreamer is a higher-level gnome framework for multimedia
[17:58] <gimpchrist> can anyone help a linuxnoob?
[17:58] <gimpchrist> lol
[17:58] <sebsebseb> humbolt: if you think that you must be noob,  or  be  using  another file system, which isn't Ext, but is also good
[17:58] <humbolt> just lost a config file due to my system freezing
[17:58] <humbolt> sebsebseb: I'll revert back to ext3
[17:58] <Emery> i've just installed ubuntu with the minimal cd ... if i did apt-get install KDE ... which version would i get ?
[17:59] <shift_> kklimonda, meglo, yeah I just uninstalled totem and gstreamer related packages.... left alsa intact and now sound doesn't work at all (even if I use mplayer)
[17:59] <sebsebseb> humbolt: and yeah Ext4 isn't quite perfect in 9.04
[17:59] <alex_mayorga> Is there a way to make Network Monitor Applet keep track of the packets received/sent between sessions?
[17:59] <gimpchrist> My cpu used to have sound, but i left it on for three days and when i came back my sound was fried....tried reboot, tried diff speakers and hedfones, nothing works.
[17:59] <sebsebseb> humbolt: it  would be if they did things a bit differnetly though, but no
[17:59] <shift_> sorry, it works again.
[17:59] <sebsebseb> humbolt:  maybe not perfect, but much better
[17:59] <gimpchrist> any way to reset original config of sound in terminal?
[17:59] <meglo> shift_: What other packages were removed, besides gstreamer? Probably something pulse-audio related which is screwing with things...
[17:59] <meglo> shift_: Err ok.
[17:59] <th0r> alex_mayorga: I think ifconfig does that
[18:00] <humbolt> sebsebseb: well I really can't accept loosing config files. If at least they would stay as they were before editing. But ending up empty?!
[18:00] <humbolt> sebsebseb: unacceptable!
[18:00] <sebsebseb> humbolt:   however it's also not default in 9.04,  so   seen as some as being buggy or development,  even though other distros such as Fedora 11 use as default, but  also  have  a  proper kernel for it.   saying that though the good news is  Ubuntu 9.10  will have Ext4 by default, and a proper kernel for it :)
[18:00] <alex_mayorga> th0r, let me check, I'm on a pay per GB connection and would like to have my own records instead of paying blindly whatever the ISP asks for
[18:01] <th0r> alex_mayorga: in a terminal type "watch ifconfig <iface>'
[18:01] <humbolt> sebsebseb: when is the next LTS release due?
[18:01] <ARMENIAN> how do i rip an audio cd to mp3?
[18:01] <sebsebseb> humbolt:  there is even some stuff in the 9.04 release notes and Ext4 issues
[18:01] <sebsebseb> !notes |  humbolt
[18:01] <kklimonda> humbolt, well - in theory the next LTS is going to be 10.04
[18:01] <gimpchrist> uhhhmmmm, anyone willing to help a noob...
[18:02] <th0r> alex_mayorga: and I believe the numbers in ifconfig are continuous, they don't reset every day or anything like that. Also there are a number of network monitoring tools that will do that work for you, create graphs and everything
[18:02] <sebsebseb> humbolt: yep 10.04 will be the next one,  April 2010
[18:02] <alex_mayorga> th0r, thanks that helps, but that wont keep record for subsecuent sessions, right?
[18:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping ARMENIAN
[18:02] <kklimonda> humbolt, but Shuttleworth was saying that he's considering holding it off till october so we can release it when new debian is released
[18:02] <humbolt> kklimonda: sebsebseb: hope ext4 issues and damn pulseaudio are sorted out until then!
[18:02] <sebsebseb> humbolt: yeah  sound issues,  that's not fun
[18:03] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: thanks :)
[18:03] <humbolt> pulseaudio, especially for the recording side of things, sucks increadibly!
[18:03] <th0r> alex_mayorga: that's what I mean...I think the totals will continue between sessions, so you take a reading now, another at the end of the month and there you have it. Also look into nagios, whatsupgold, big brother and others
[18:03] <kklimonda> humbolt, it was explicitly said in release notes for 9.04 that ext4 may not be as stable as ext3
[18:03] <ericdb> I'm using Jaunty on a Dell xps m1210...sometimes I lose the ability to suspend or even shutdown.  The power button does nothing, nor does closing the lid.  But usually it works.  What can I look at to troubleshoot this?  Right now I'm having the problem.  Oh, scratch that...after about 60 seconds, the dialog finally came up.
[18:03] <gimpchrist> MY sound doesnt work anymore, it used to work, i did nothing to my cpu for it to fry, someone please help me. Any way i can reset the sound settings through terminal
[18:03] <humbolt> kklimonda: yes, that's ok. I am not moaning about that anymore.
[18:03] <th0r> alex_mayorga: also...look at installing gkrellm, it is in the repos. The network monitor there keeps daily, weekly and monthly totals
[18:03] <alex_mayorga> th0r, would keep an eye on that command and check your suggestions
[18:03] <kklimonda> humbolt, and wrt pulseaudio every new release should be better than that last one
[18:04] <Scrondo> Sorry, I'm totally a newbie and I need some help about downloading from fserve. Chatzilla works fine, but if I use pidgin and type the trigger, then I don't get the long message with command list in response. What's wrong?
[18:04] <meglo> Windows users can just install 3.5 right when released. Linux needs a stable ABI and the community has to merge into a single distro with great corporate backing to weather out the coming legislative apocalypse(DMCA 2.0, prompted cyber-terror/katrina crackdowns, whatever the EU has in store). We'll need TC signed kernels with escrow, klipper chips and mandated LSM modules from our respective federal authorities. Behold the future.
[18:04] <Travis-42> for a command in the crontab, is there a way to insert the current month, day, or hour into the parameters of the command being called?
[18:04] <th0r> alex_mayorga: for simple....gkrellm, for complete and impressive, nagios or whatsupgold
[18:04] <DasEi1> !kubuntu | Emery
[18:04] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, btw - firefox 3.5 from jaunty-security is a stable version. for various reasons (SRU mainly) it doesn't have an official branding thouch
[18:04] <kklimonda> though*
[18:04] <sebsebseb> meglo: what are you on about?  and loads of the other distros do  it by default now, or have as an update just like that
[18:04] <datta> i need to know something about flock
[18:04] <bazhang> meglo, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:04] <sebsebseb> meglo: it's just Ubuntu is always behind with stuff like this
[18:04] <Emery> DasEi, i'm not using kubuntu ... it's ubuntu ..
[18:04] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: is sound juicer no longer installed on ubuntu by default?
[18:04] <dhq> i need help .... i am a MSc computer network security student and have to do a project as part of my course...  can anyone suggest some topics which are feasable
[18:05] <GJ> What's the most lightweight ubuntu distro?
[18:05] <kklimonda> GJ, define lightweight
[18:05] <datta> i use the ubuntu system made by dell but i dont know what i should download from flock's site
[18:05] <alex_mayorga> th0r, I'm using http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-netstatus/2.26/ for now
[18:05] <meglo> sebsebseb: So you're saying balkanized distros are causing my problems?
[18:05] <Travis-42> :q/join #linuxhelp
[18:05] <humbolt> kklimonda: I just hope that LTS will be a really stable release this time. Not like the last time, when pulseaudio, which is still not really production ready, has been pushed in in the last minute!
[18:05] <stew> Travis-42: no, but all though are available via the date command
[18:05] <Travis-42> oops
[18:05] <Travis-42> stew: ok thank you
[18:05] <alex_mayorga> th0r, it seems to reset the numbers by session though
[18:05] <GJ> kklimonda: The ones that don't take alot of memory to run, and thus run quite good on older systems.
[18:06] <DasEi1> Emery: other surfaces, but installed by minimal, the body off all (ubu,kubu,xubu .. and so on ) is same
[18:06] <Drknezz> !firefox
[18:06] <rsa_md5> has anyone here tried using debootsrap on ubuntu with apt-proxy?
[18:06] <kklimonda> GJ, probably arch linux with some lightweight WM
[18:06] <sebsebseb> meglo: no  I am saying if you want later stuff first,  and sometimes  even  when it's beta,   get  a distro such as Fedora.   For  example   Fedora 11 came with  Firefox  3.5  Beta 4.
[18:06] <shaboo> Hi, I'm gaving trouble setting the IP address from the command line.  I have edited the /etc/interfaces but when I do /etc/init.d/networking restart, it looks like it's restarted OK but the IP details have not changed, even after a reboot.  ANy ideas ?
[18:06] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, it is optional (ie needs to be installed) sound-juicer is the package name
[18:06] <th0r> alex_mayorga: I found the system monitors in gnome took an awful lot of system resources. I installed gkrellm (even under gnome) and it monitors a ton of stuff with very little impact on system resources