[20:54] <EriC^^> it will remove the unnecessary packages, including any old kernels and leave the last 2
[20:54] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Oh, so this will remove the old ones?
[20:54] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: yes
[20:55] <k1l> MiauAnotherPC: "sudo update-grub"
[20:55] <k1l> MiauAnotherPC: put the stuff into a pastebin then afterwards
[20:55] <delinquentme> jhutchins, right. so then the behavior would be the same
[20:56] <MiauAnotherPC> kll and EriC^^: Hmm, right, it's because I usually use grub customizer to make things easier for me to organize grub, but lemme  pastebinit
[20:59] <k1l> MiauAnotherPC: you mean "i use grub customizer to ruin my grub and make issue that bring me to this channel to ask for help" :)
[21:00] <MiauAnotherPC> kll: Well, not really, it was working fine yesterday :v
[21:00] <MiauAnotherPC> kll: And I didn't even touch grub customizer
[21:01] <maxvi> hey guys I have a problem with brightness fn keys in ubuntu 14.10 it doesn't work for me so I have a question will it be fixed with updates in the future ? ot I need just use ubuntu 14.04 ? Please give me some advice. Thanks
[21:02] <quidnunc> Is there a way to flush swap back into RAM?
[21:03] <MiauAnotherPC> kll: paste.ubuntu.com/8907029/
[21:03] <k1l> MiauAnotherPC: yes, that worked
[21:04] <MiauAnotherPC> kll: phew, finally it's working
[21:04] <EriC^^> quidnunc: swapoff -a
[21:05] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^, MonkeyDust, cybrhuman, kll: Guys, thank you so much for the help, I thought  it was a lost case, but thank you very much. :3
[21:05] <EriC^^> quidnunc: it will only swap it to ram if the processes are still using it
[21:05] <EriC^^> ( so some might disappear if they aren't in use anymore )
[21:06] <anomie> I had one small issue with the minimal install.
[21:06] <Guest62650> hi
[21:06] <Guest818> I had to to boot the cd again and install grub so that it would work with UEFI secure boot.
[21:07] <Guest62650> i want to crack fb password how?
[21:07] <DJones> Guest62650: Email facebook with the username & responses to their security questions
[21:10] <quidnunc> EriC^^: I have gotten hard crashes (kernel panics?) when using swapoff
[21:10] <EriC^^> quidnunc: do you have sufficient free ram?
[21:11] <bloodcage> Hey Guys... I've a question about the really odd swappiness thing.... I've seen many youtube videos and read many webpages about this topic now and I'm still not sure which value I should use on my system.... I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 unity with an dualcore 1.8ghz and 2 gb on ram. It would be nice to hear what values you are currently using and perhaps one has an advice for me. I was going to set the value to 40 but almost in every repo
[21:11] <bloodcage> rt the value of 10 is given O.o
[21:12] <quidnunc> EriC^^: Now yes. I believe I did when I used swapoff in the past also.
[21:13] <quidnunc> EriC^^: "Sufficient" => Maybe I got a RAM spike and oom_killer got called which tanked my system
[21:13] <bloodcage> I got a very slow HDD with a swapdrive and a swapfile, each priority 5 and 2gb on space ...
[21:13] <quidnunc> EriC^^: Anyway, thanks
[21:15] <magnulu> Hello - trying to connect a projector (benq pe7800) to 12.04 using dvi-d cable - and nothing is happening afaics, kern.log tells me nothing.. can connect another monitor with the same cable, and can connect the projector to another computer with the same cable, so it should be working. any suggestions? btw, if I use a hdmi cable from my puter and a hdmi->dvi-d adapter I get the following in kern.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8907258/
[21:15] <magnulu> sorry, 14.04
[21:16] <Ary_Mainart> HI
[21:17] <Ary_Mainart> I want to create a instalble pendriver of windows XP to install on my kid PC
[21:17] <Ary_Mainart> i try to use yumi but doesent suport Windows XP
[21:18] <Ary_Mainart> some one have a tip?
[21:18] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: 1st windows xp is end of live. 2nd please ask the windows guys how to make that work as a live usb
[21:18] <daftykins> Ary_Mainart: surprisingly this isn't a Windows support channel
[21:18] <bubbasaures> Ary_Mainart, This is a ##windows issue, and it is a eol, don't expect much support.
[21:18] <Ary_Mainart> no man
[21:18] <Ary_Mainart> im using Ubuntu
[21:19] <daftykins> you're out of luck either way.
[21:19] <Ary_Mainart> but need to install windows on my childrens PC
[21:19] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: ok, that is a windows issue. we can tell you how to make a usb bootable.
[21:19] <Lingo______> Hi guys
[21:19] <OerHeks> Ary_Mainart, xp does not work on usb, check in ##windiws
[21:19] <Ary_Mainart> ok guys
[21:19] <Ary_Mainart> forget about it
[21:19] <OerHeks> or ##windows
[21:20] <basil1x> Can you not put XP in a kvm?
[21:20] <Ary_Mainart> sorry to bother you
[21:20] <Lingo______> Is there any shell scripting expert who can help a novice ? :)
[21:20] <Ary_Mainart> c ya
[21:20] <compdoc> basil1x, sure
[21:21] <basil1x> Would make all this faff easier, yes?  And a better solution than telling people to ask in the windows room.  ick.
[21:21] <Lingo______> I need help on one of my script if possible :)
[21:23] <bubbasaures> xp is not the easiest usb load anyway, I have had to use windows tools to do it
[21:23] <Lingo______> #ubuntu-fr
[21:23] <k1l> basil1x: the problem is, that that users asking for that dont want that virtual or kvm solutions. they want the service they know from ubuntu but with windows.
[21:24] <basil1x> hmm... the occasional, rare, valid point.
[21:25] <Ary_Mainart> ow
[21:25] <Ary_Mainart> other thing
[21:25] <Ary_Mainart> I am having an issuie on my network
[21:27] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: what issue? can you tell the ubuntu version, the error messages, the network setup?
[21:27] <Ary_Mainart> when i try to acess my samba network, and click on workgroup there is a windows asking for a password.
[21:27] <Ary_Mainart> ubuntu 14.04
[21:28] <Ary_Mainart> i have a print screen to show
[21:28] <Ary_Mainart> none of the passwords i use work on that
[21:28] <Ary_Mainart> if i leave blank cant connect
[21:28] <k1l> did you setup a password for the home workgroup on the other windows machines?
[21:28] <Ary_Mainart> no
[21:29] <Ary_Mainart> that option is diseabled
[21:29] <pantato> i installed vsftp and i'm not seeing it inside of the init.d folder
[21:29] <pantato> what gives?
[21:30] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: try setting: "obey pam restrictions = no" in smb.conf
[21:31] <magnulu> Ary_Mainart: here is my top portion of smb.conf - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8907493/
[21:32] <magnulu> Ary_Mainart: it allows for guest access OR user-with-password access.. I remember having struggled with this in the past
[21:32] <nuke_> how do you install that damn boost 1.55 on 14.04.... i am stuck with 1.54 and i just cant upgrade...
[21:33] <magnulu> Ary_Mainart: oh, from debian wheezy, not strictly ubuntu, maybe it helps a little anyway :)
[21:33] <k1l> nuke_: you are sure you need boost in that verison?
[21:34] <Ary_Mainart> how to restar samba anyway?
[21:34] <Ary_Mainart> i forgot
[21:35] <basil1x> sysctl restart samba?
[21:35] <basil1x> Not sure about that, mind
[21:35] <k1l> nope. sudo service restart smbd
[21:35] <OerHeks> Ary_Mainart https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[21:35] <metaldog> ok. im losing patience now. im on lubuntu. i am trying to make bootable usbs of other os's. the only problem is is that it will only do it with ubuntu or ubuntu usb's. need to sort it as i need to change os
[21:36]  * basil1x keeps confusticating his Fedora and his Ubuntu
[21:37] <basil1x> You can make a bootable USB of any linux OS rather easily.  Sec... lemme find the instruxions.
[21:38] <metaldog> i do not need instructions. i know what to do. its just that the only ones that work are lubuntu and ubuntu
[21:38] <OerHeks> unetbootin will do it, metaldog , or seek help in the channel for your OS
[21:38] <basil1x> OK
[21:38] <basil1x> You can use unetbootin then.
[21:38] <thoonai> basil1x: do you like Tolkien?
[21:38] <thoonai> :D
[21:39] <metaldog> unetbootin. fails. startup disk creator fails (both versions) and i dont know how to do ir in dd
[21:39] <basil1x> I do.
[21:39] <basil1x> though what that has to do with aught, I have no idea.
[21:40] <thoonai> basil1x: nice :)
[21:40] <Ary_Mainart> doesn't work mate.
[21:40] <canonical> hey
[21:41] <Ary_Mainart> still asking worgroup pass
[21:41] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: i bet you did setup a workgroup password on the windows machine then
[21:41] <canonical> new daylibuild
[21:41] <canonical> for all
[21:42] <metaldog> so...any help to be found on this so called help page then? ive only been in and out asking about this for 3 days now.....
[21:42] <bazhang> metaldog, what OS's you want to make a usb stick for
[21:43] <metaldog> peppermint os bazhang. all this will let me install tho are lubuntu and ubuntu
[21:43] <Ary_Mainart> kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[21:43] <Ary_Mainart> im shure i didnt, but i will check anyway
[21:43] <pantato> I looked up my issue on google and the internets want me to install a new kernel
[21:43] <k1l> metaldog: does that OS have special requirements for been put on usb? ubuntu isos work with dd or startdisk creators like unetbooin or disk-creator
[21:45] <Ary_Mainart> the most strange is because before works fine. then i format my ubuntu and install the same ubuntu version. when i tryed to acess network i got this
[21:45] <metaldog> i know they work. ive been doing it for 3 days. i have never had any issues doing this in windows, linux. zorin or even peppermint. ubuntu hates me, lol
[21:46] <k1l> metaldog: what is the issue after the creating? did you check the iso? did you try to format the usb stick by hand?
[21:46] <OerHeks> metaldog, ask in #peppermint on spotchat, don't blame ubuntu please
[21:47] <magnulu> metaldog: tried dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M (replace X with your right device)
[21:48] <metaldog> if anyone knows the dd commands and could let me have em it would be nice...and im not blaming ubuntu, i just said it hates me, lol. i have done everything i can find or think of and the only usb os's that will work are lubuntu and ubuntu. slax linux wont even boot
[21:48] <OerHeks> sure that usb is fat32?
[21:48] <metaldog> ok, magulu, i will try it. thanks
[21:48] <metaldog> and yes, it is fat 32
[21:49] <magnulu> metaldog: be sure to type in the right device number or you might be mighty sorry.. check and double check with 'fdisk -l'
[21:49] <metaldog> and oerheks. i dont have a peppermint issue i have a lubuntu issue
[21:50] <k1l> metaldog: what is the lubuntu issue?
[21:50] <metaldog> ok, thanks, magulu
[21:50] <basil1x> metaldog, do you have nautilus and gnome-disk-utility installed?
[21:50] <magnulu> metaldog: and note that there should not be any numbers after, if your memory stick is /dev/sdf, then put that, not /dev/sdf1 or whatever
[21:51] <bearface> umount it if its currently mounted before running dd
[21:51] <basil1x> You can open the iso with 'Disk Image Writer' choose your USB, and tick 'Restore'.   It should create a bootable USB from any live image.
[21:51] <bazhang> he's gone
[21:51] <bearface> heh
[21:51] <bearface> why the 'tab-complete' didn't work
[21:52] <basil1x> OI!  bearface !  Izzat you?
[21:52] <bearface> 'tis
[21:52] <magnulu> let's hope he doesn't come back looking for help with testdisk :)
[21:52] <l0rdn1x> he'll be back
[21:53] <magnulu> asking for photorec advice
[21:53] <l0rdn1x> yep
[21:53] <l0rdn1x> I would bet $20.00 if I had it
[21:53] <l0rdn1x> lol
[21:53] <l0rdn1x> Probably be sooner than you think
[21:54] <Ary_Mainart> Hey. I check and its all Ok on windows machine. Share password protected is disabled
[21:54] <Ary_Mainart> the windows machine doesen't see samba network
[21:54] <magnulu> Ary_Mainart: did you read the guide?
[21:55] <Ary_Mainart> didnt see. just a sec
[21:55] <magnulu> Ary_Mainart: and did you try my config file?
[21:56] <x0rs> Does anyone know the safest way to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS? I did it, but I had to revert to my old image, because the update (using dist-upgrade) caused my web server (Apache2) to break
[21:56] <daftykins> x0rs: things in apache change so you can't just do it straight and expect it to be all perfect, is the deal i think
[21:57] <x0rs> daftykins, ok, thanks
[21:57] <basil1x> A certain amount of repair work might be necessary.
[21:57] <ben_g> Hi
[21:57] <magnulu> another shot: trying to connect a projector (benq pe7800) to 14.04 using dvi-d cable - and *nothing* is happening afaics, kern.log tells me nothing.. can connect another monitor with the same cable, and can connect the projector to another computer with the same cable, so it should be working. btw, if I use a hdmi cable from my puter and a hdmi->dvi-d adapter I get the following in kern.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8907258/ - any thoughts on this?
[21:58] <basil1x> 'Lo, ben_g
[21:58] <ben_g> I'm trying to generate a backup image of an SD card, but there are multiple partitions on the SD card. How should I do this?
[21:58] <EriC^^> x0rs: btw dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade releases
[21:58] <x0rs> EriC^^, sorry, i did a do-release-upgrade following that
[21:58] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: which ubuntu version is it exactly?
[21:59] <x0rs> daftykins, EriC^^, i figured it out. the upgrade with apache requires me to rename my virtual host files with a ".conf" extension
[21:59] <bearface> x0rs: some metnions and possible solutions/explainations as to what changed
[21:59] <bearface> http://jrs-s.net/2014/06/02/apache-2-4-ubuntu-trusty-problems/
[22:00] <ben_g> or is generating an image not the reccomended way for backing up an sd card?
[22:00] <basil1x> ben_g, there's programmes to duplicate partitions.
[22:00] <x0rs> bearface, thank you
[22:00] <daftykins> ben_g: try clonezilla
[22:00] <ben_g> basil1x: I'd like to put it all in one image, so I can easily restore the SD card if something goes wrong
[22:01] <basil1x> AH
[22:01] <ben_g> can clonezilla do that?
[22:01] <basil1x> Never tried that.
[22:01] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: see if that helps, which is from 2010 strangely :/ https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+question/114345
[22:01] <basil1x> I do backups by shoving everything onto the drives in the closet.
[22:03] <ben_g> what architecture is an i5? (I need that for the clonezilla download)
[22:04] <k1l> Ary_Mainart: and make sure your ubuntu user is in the sambashare group
[22:04] <basil1x> Intel x64
[22:05] <bearface> ben_g: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/home/username/nameoffile.img" (without double quotes)   where sdX is the device of the sdcard. will make an image of the sdcard and store it at /home/username/nameoffile.img
[22:05] <ben_g> it only lets me choose between i686-pae, i486 and amd64
[22:05] <k1l> ben_g: amd64
[22:05] <ben_g> bearface: how do I see the device?
[22:05] <basil1x> amd64, then
[22:05] <ben_g> in the explorer, I only see the separate partitions
[22:06] <bearface> if it's currently mounted 'mount' will list it
[22:06] <Ben64> dd would be easier than clonezilla for backing up an sd card
[22:06] <bprompt> ben_g:   how big is the sdcard anyhow?
[22:06] <ben_g> bprompt: 8GB
[22:08] <bprompt> ben_g:     am afraid I'd side with Ben64  on that... just run an "dd" line on it to make the image... .  the only thing about "dd" is that it stores also "blank" unused space, but does the job  ->   dd if=/dev/SDCARDENTRY  of=IMAGEFILEHERE
[22:09] <daftykins> i think you guys are forgetting that with 'dd' a restoration will write to every LBA of the card again, which'll artificially reduce its' lifespan
[22:09] <ben_g> the sdX thing seems to be different for each partition when I type mount
[22:09] <bprompt> ben_g:      making an image of say   /dev/mmcblk1  or so.... would grab the device at raw.... irrelevant on how many partitiions there are or if it has an active or not partition and/or boot code in it
[22:10] <bprompt> ben_g:     yes... the partitions would have a number at the end... say    /dev/mmcblk1   /dev/mmcblk2   and such.... the device itself, would only be say  /dev/mmcblk
[22:11] <ben_g> bprompt: ah, so I have to enter the name without the number?
[22:11] <bprompt> ben_g:     so doing /dev/mmcblk   would gobble up the device at raw, and make it an image
[22:11] <bprompt> right
[22:12] <ben_g> ok
[22:12] <ben_g> I guess it'll take quite a while to backup all that stuff, right?
[22:12] <ben_g> (the command gives no output yet, is that normal?)
[22:12] <bearface> depends on read speed of the card/controller and write speed of the HDD you back it up onto
[22:13] <bearface> yes, that is normal
[22:13] <bearface> ben_g: it will only show output once it's done
[22:13] <bprompt> ben_g:     depends... on the sdcard read speed... I'd think a class4 would be slower than a class10 one
[22:13] <ben_g> ok,
[22:13] <ben_g> Thanks guys
[22:14] <bprompt> ben_g:      yeah.... is normal    "dd" is a  modest guy =)    but I check my disk i/o activity and that tells me it's working
[22:14] <bearface> adding conv=sparse could eliminate copying any empty space **i think**
[22:15] <bprompt> ben_g:      like say I've done 8gbs  usb sticks "dd"   and on usb 1.0 stick  it took 25mins.... on a usb 2.0   took me about 8mins....    so I'd think a class10 sdcard    may take 10mins or less
[22:15] <ben_g> oh well, if it contains lots of empty space, then I can still decrease the filesize later on by zipping it, so I don't really care
[22:16] <ben_g> well, my hard drive is crap, so I guess I'll have to wait a while
[22:16] <bprompt> ben_g:     yes... I've done that... like an 8gbs stick  I imaged... was half-emtpy   so I zipped it... of course, I had to unzip it first to reexpand it
[22:16] <ben_g> right click > properties on the image file says it's at 1.5GB, but I don't know if it's relyable
[22:17] <daftykins> you can get progress output from 'dd' by running "kill -USR1 $PID" where $PID = the process ID number of the 'dd' process
[22:18] <bearface> "pidof dd" to get the PID of dd for daftykins command
[22:20] <micom> i love you ubuntu, my box have crashed so i just moved my ssd disk to laptop and it works,  totally different hardware configuration, but it just works from the very beginning
[22:21] <daftykins> micom: that's more Linux but ok ;)
[22:22] <basil1x> Let's all give a rousing shout to genericism. ;)
[22:23] <daftykins> basil1x: not sure on your point there?
[22:24] <basil1x> Only mean the generic drivers work across hardware, where windows goes on a massive hunt that takes hours.
[22:25] <hephaestus_rg> ok i have a problem that many of you might also have, please tell me otherwise:
[22:25] <hephaestus_rg> in the terminal, i use ctrl+shift+c to copy
[22:25] <basil1x> OK
[22:25] <hephaestus_rg> but in google chrome, ctrl+shift+c opens the console
[22:25] <basil1x> yes
[22:25] <hephaestus_rg> do you ever accidentally open the console when trying to copy something
[22:25] <hephaestus_rg> that's really frustrating me right now
[22:26] <basil1x> no.  I use FireFox
[22:26] <hephaestus_rg> and there doesn't seem to be any way to change chrome hotkeys
[22:26] <hephaestus_rg> this might be the 1 thing that force me to switch to firefox
[22:26] <k1l> hephaestus_rg: no. shortcuts can vary from program to program
[22:26] <basil1x> You could shift the copy keys instead.
[22:27] <basil1x> Plenty unused macros lying about.
[22:27] <hephaestus_rg> what do you mean basil1x
[22:27] <hephaestus_rg> 'shift the copy keys'
[22:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I've installed Awesome wm (desktop environment) and im on it right now and when i try to use the command awsetbg then the image name i get this error
[22:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ~/Downloads$ awsetbg foggy_day_5-wallpaper-1366x768.jpg
[22:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> The program 'awsetbg' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[22:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> sudo apt-get install awesome
[22:27] <OerHeks> hephaestus_rg, use ctrl + c to copy in chrome, ctrl + shift + c is for terminal only
[22:27] <basil1x> Instead of ctrl+shft+c, you could make it ctrl+alt+shft+k or summat
[22:28] <hephaestus_rg> is there some way to change the hotkey in chrome at the OS level? like rebind ctrl+shift+c to behave as if it was ctrl+c in chrome only?
[22:28] <Praash> I have a problem: I recently installed gnome shell and upgraded my software packages, now the only graphical session that I'm able to log into is Awesome WM. At the moment I'm IRCing through TTY. I've tried reinstalling lightdm/gdm
[22:29] <k1l> Praash: installed gnome-shell from official ubuntu repos?
[22:29] <Praash> I also had just plugged in my secondary display before this problem appeared
[22:29] <Praash> k1l: yes
[22:29] <k1l> Praash: so no PPAs involved there in that issue?
[22:30] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HALP
[22:30] <k1l> Praash: make sure in the users home the .Xauthority file belongs to user:user and not root:root
[22:30] <basil1x> Manual seems to say that in Chrome F10 will poen the config menu, and let you play with all sorts of helpful settings.  Perhaps it's in there?
[22:30] <Praash> k1l: .Xauthority is owned by me
[22:31] <bprompt> hephaestus_rg:    I've found that the UI of webkit browsers, chrome none the less, do not allow access to much.... thus not very customizable.... that includes keybindings  as well, btw I've looked for keybind or remapping extensions for chrome... no dice
[22:31] <k1l> Praash: then what is the error when you do sudo lightdm restart
[22:33] <Praash> k1l: I'm getting "Failed to use bus name org.Freedesktop.Displaymanager, do you have appropriate permissions?"
[22:35] <hephaestus_rg> thanks for the tip bprompt
[22:36] <bprompt> np
[22:38] <k1l> Praash: did you change something regarding the video drivers?
[22:38] <Praash> k1l: nope
[22:38] <Praash> k1l: though I'm not sure if that software upgrade did anything suspicious
[22:39] <k1l> "software upgrade"?
[22:39] <Praash> I didn't upgrade the ubuntu version, just packages
[22:39] <DuPa_KaShAnY> Which hour is in US now?
[22:40] <k1l> Praash: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[22:41] <k1l> then sudo start lightdm
[22:41] <Praash> k1l: I tried that already, but I can give another try again
[22:43] <k1l> Praash: else try to look at dmesg log or xserver log if there is something about that
 I've installed Awesome wm (desktop environment) and im on it right now and when i try to use the command awsetbg then the image name i get this error
 ~/Downloads$ awsetbg foggy_day_5-wallpaper-1366x768.jpg
 The program 'awsetbg' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
 sudo apt-get install awesome
[22:44] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: did you try the command mentioned?
[22:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> no
[22:45] <k1l> why not?
[22:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i didnt see a reply to my question
[22:45] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: please re read the lines you just pasted in here
[22:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ;x
[22:46] <m1dnight> guys, I just ran dd to copy raspbian to my sd card but dd does not return
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I have installed awesome already
[22:46] <m1dnight> it said:<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (1,2 GB) copied, 35,5814 s, 33,7 MB/s, but the command does not return
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and im using it
[22:46] <m1dnight> I did do pkill -USR1 -n -x dd to give output
[22:46] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: from the official ubuntu repos?
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> sudo apt-get install awesome
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> [sudo] password for bacon:
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Reading package lists... Done
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Building dependency tree
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Reading state information... Done
[22:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> awesome is already the newest version.
[22:46] <unopaste> GuyThatNeedsHelp you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:46] <m1dnight> then I tried "sync", but that does not return either
[22:46] <gabeyfone> hello guys, does anyone know of a tool (even a windows one) I can use to write to a usb drive a windows 7 installation CD and have it boot?
[22:47] <gabeyfone> anyone done this?
[22:47] <ulkesh> gabeyfone: unetbootin perhaps?
[22:47] <m1dnight> gabeyfone: there is an officiel windows tool
[22:47] <m1dnight> !google windows 7 usb tool
[22:47] <k1l> gabeyfone: best is to ask there windows support for their tool
[22:47] <m1dnight> ah lol
[22:47] <gabeyfone> so I have to run it within wine or virtualbox then, that
[22:47] <gabeyfone> that's cool :)
[22:47] <m1dnight> you said it could be a windows tool, so I give you a windows tool :p
[22:47] <ulkesh> gabeyfone: unetbootin is cross-platform i believe, could be wrong though
[22:47] <m1dnight> so anyone on that dd?
[22:48] <k1l> !find awsetbg | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[22:48] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what ubuntu are you on exactly?
[22:48] <kandinski> I'm using the Rackspace mirrors at their Sydney datacenter, but they are inconsistent and frequently down. Which mirrors do you recommend for production servers in .au? Thanks.
[22:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 14.04
[22:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> newest version
[22:49] <kandinski> (note: for some values of 'frequently', but bad enough that we notice it when we run our ops scripts)
[22:49] <Ben64> kandinski: honestly, i would use the main repositories
[22:49] <lubuntu> ver irc.explosionirc.net
[22:49] <kandinski> Ben64: I hear you. It's not like a bit of latency is going to kill us.
[22:50] <Ben64> kandinski: indeed. it was more of an issue like 15 years ago. now i don't really understand why you'd need to pick the closest location
[22:50] <kandinski> well, choosing Rackspace itself did seem a good bet at the time...
[22:51] <kandinski> (grumble grumble)
[22:51] <ulkesh> Ben64: because some mirrors are actually faster, bandwidth-wise
[22:51] <kandinski> they update once a day at 4am, and it seems that they aren't down, but that Rackspace suffers from weird internal network partitions
[22:51] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what gives you "apt-cache policy awesome"? please show in a pastebin
[22:51] <ulkesh> Ben64: I've gotten packages faster on non-main repo locations many times in the past
[22:51] <kandinski> I've had issues with two servers not reaching each other on public IPs, despite me being connected to both of them via dial-up
[22:52] <kandinski> I'm pretty sure this is the same kind of problem.
[22:52] <Ben64> ulkesh: 100MB maybe at 100mbit or 50mbit isn't going to be noticeable
[22:52] <ulkesh> Ben64: I'm around 120Mbit, and it's very noticeable to me when i get 2 MB/sec from main repos, and 15 MB/sec from an alt
[22:53] <Praash> k1l: I'm going to try rebooting with the secondary display disconnected
[22:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8908481/
[22:53] <kandinski> The other reason would be politeness. Not for our own benefit, but to offload the traffic.
[22:54] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: talk to the PPA maintainer about the damaged awesome package you installed.
[22:57] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> nvm then i can just change it in the config thanks for your help
[22:57] <alexxaa> hello! me again
[22:57] <alexxaa> k1l wasn't right about moving unallocated space
[22:58] <OerHeks> alexxaa, why?
[22:58] <alexxaa> I have unallocated space before sda5 and can only expand sda5, but not sda6
[22:58] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: you are using 3rd party awesome packages. so please ask the maintainer for further issues since its working with the right ubunut awesome ones
[22:59] <alexxaa> but my /home is mounted to sda6 and I want to expand it
[22:59] <alexxaa> k1l, I'm using latest ubuntu live usb at the moment
[22:59] <OerHeks> alexxaa, k1l  told you to move sda5 to the start of sda4, then move sda6, then finally you can expand sda6
[23:00] <alexxaa> Oerheks, how to perform that
[23:00] <alexxaa> It cannot be done
[23:00] <alexxaa> dragging doesnt help
[23:02] <k1l> alexxaa: right click onto the partition, then choose resize/move, then choose the settings in the next window. then apply.
[23:03] <OerHeks> i hope you have backupd your data before this :-)
[23:03] <alexxaa> k1l, I can expand sda5 only, not sda6
[23:03] <OerHeks> not expand, move
[23:03] <OerHeks> alexxaa, read carefully
[23:04] <alexxaa> ohhhhhhhhh
[23:04] <alexxaa> i see
[23:04] <alexxaa> move means to drag the selection to left part
[23:04] <alexxaa> ;) dummy me
[23:04] <k1l> alexxaa: yes.
[23:04] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:04] <alexxaa> k1l you could have told so
[23:05] <k1l> alexxaa: come on. i told you to move it all the time.
[23:06] <alexxaa> yes, to move. I thought it means to somehow drag it, but I didn't know WHAT I'm supposed to move. Now I know :)
[23:07] <alexxaa> anyway, I'm thinking of moving to unity. Is there any way to adjust DASH to show application categories when clicked (or when super button pressed)?
[23:07] <k1l> alexxaa: press super+a to go to program lense
[23:08] <OerHeks> alexxaa, sure, open dash, en click on 'fileter results right top corner
[23:08] <OerHeks> filter*
[23:09] <splergy> linux noob here, installed ubuntu 14.04 and upon booting it says one of my partitions (NTFS) cannot be mounted/found
[23:09] <splergy> i set it to automount a while ago and it just stopped working for whatever reason
[23:09] <splergy> Here's the info /dev/sda7: LABEL="BackUp" UUID="01CFF2686913A750" TYPE="ntfs"
[23:09] <k1l> splergy: do a "sudo mount -a" and put it into a pastebin please
[23:10] <splergy> coming right up
[23:10] <alexxaa> k1l, super + A is not what I want
[23:11] <splergy> http://pastebin.com/W01Tyti4
[23:11] <alexxaa> it shows all apps
[23:11] <splergy> i also am dual booting and am able to access that partition when in windows
[23:11] <alexxaa> I want app's categories instead
[23:11] <k1l> alexxaa: see right handside to sort after groups
[23:11] <k1l> gropus/categories
[23:11] <alexxaa> that's handy
[23:11] <alexxaa> thanks
[23:12] <crypt1> flair
[23:12] <k1l> alexxaa: but most modern desktops go for the "type program name or keyword to start/find app" approach.
[23:13] <k1l> splergy: now please "sudo blkid "
[23:14] <splergy> http://pastebin.com/MbSSssAd
[23:14] <splergy> the partition in question is where i keep images/documents
[23:14] <splergy> not that it matters
[23:15] <k1l> splergy: now please (to be sure) a "cat /etc/fstab"
[23:16] <k1l> splergy: because it looks like you got a old uuid in the fstab and therefore it cant get mounted because that doesnt exist anymore.
[23:16] <splergy> http://pastebin.com/wzL1NNsX
[23:17] <splergy> is that what you wanted? how would i go about fixing this?
[23:18] <k1l> splergy: ok. like i thought. the backup partitions got a new uuid. you need to copy the one form he "sudo blkid" comand and paste it into the line in the fstab. use "sudo nano /etc/fstab" to edit the fstab
[23:19] <OerHeks> does that folder /media/BackUp exists?
[23:19] <splergy> ok ill try it. hopefully not too complicated
[23:20] <splergy> alright how do i save the changes in the terminal window?
[23:21] <splergy> dont see a save button listed on the bottom
[23:21] <splergy> is it writeout?
[23:21] <splergy> or can i just exit?
[23:21] <k1l> splergy: ctrl +o
[23:21] <k1l> for saving. then ctrl+x for exit
[23:21] <splergy> okay so i was right. noice
[23:22] <k1l> splergy: afterwards do a "sudo mount -a" to check
[23:22] <alexxaa> k1l, right shift doesn't work on live usb
[23:22] <alexxaa> why?
[23:22] <k1l> alexxaa: shift?
[23:22] <alexxaa> right shift
[23:23] <alexxaa> shift botton
[23:23] <alexxaa> button
[23:23] <OerHeks> to enter grub menu, hold CTRL, not shift
[23:23] <splergy> when i type in sudo mount -a nothing happens
[23:23] <splergy> does that mean it's good?
[23:23] <k1l> splergy: in that case "nothing" is the result we want :)
[23:23] <splergy> yay
[23:24] <k1l> its "no errors"
[23:24] <splergy> okay noice. will it automount on boot?
[23:24] <k1l> splergy: yes
[23:24] <alexxaa> 0erHeks, I've entered live usb, currently working on live usb, waiting for gparted to finish copying and moving
[23:24] <alexxaa> and while waiting I noticed that right shift doesnt work
[23:25] <splergy> okay imma go test it just to be sure. ill be back if there's another issue (hopefully not). Thanks for your help
[23:25] <k1l> alexxaa: could depend on generic keyboard layout
[23:25] <alexxaa> Any official or unofficial news about so long waited ubuntu phones/tablet?
[23:26] <alexxaa> end of the year sounds like Christmas or what?
[23:26] <k1l> alexxaa: yep. that could be the timeframe
[23:26] <alexxaa> I hoped I would see it in Septembar or so
[23:27] <mikubuntu> i just downloaded PyBookReader to Downloads folder -- could someone help me install this via these instructions please :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140053 (first prob -- i don't know how to cd properly)
[23:29] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, cd Downloads ( note the capital D)
[23:29] <OerHeks> or cd Down [tab]
[23:30] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: don't have to use the little '~' thingy ?
[23:31] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, the tilde ~stands for /home/<your username> but i don't see that in the instructions
[23:33] <Praash> k1l: it seems that my problem is caused by a crash/failure in gnome-settings-daemon
[23:33] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: ty -- seems to be working
[23:39] <SleePy> Why does it seem remote desktop is such a complex task on Ubuntu?  All I want is to be able to remote in, see my desktop and work with a GUI from anywhere I'm at.
[23:40] <SleePy> I finally get vino to let me see my desktop, but I have to login first, export my display, pkill vino and then start it back up
[23:40] <Ben64> SleePy: it isn't hard at all
[23:40] <SleePy> I've been googling but maybe for the wrong answer
[23:41] <Ben64> vino "just works"
[23:41] <Ben64> unless you're running a server or something like that
[23:41] <SleePy> Its Ubuntu desktop
[23:41] <SleePy> I can't get vnc to work without doing the above steps
[23:42] <Ben64> then you're doing something wrong
[23:43] <SleePy> I must be
[23:43] <SleePy> This is a brand new setup on 14.04.1 LTS.  Just built the machine yesterday.  Not too much going on it yet
[23:44] <SchrodingersScat> how I learned to love cli and not worry about the gui
[23:44] <Ben64> but yeah, ssh is so much better
[23:45] <SleePy> It is, i've got that setup and got my key in.  Its a desktop though ;)
[23:48] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: when it finished, the prompt reads : "~/Downloads$" do i need to cd out of downloads or just close the term?
[23:48] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, close it, you're fine
[23:49] <Finetundra> how do i reinstall grub from a live boot?
[23:49] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: ok, cool -- thx again
[23:49] <EriC^^> Finetundra: why are you installing it from a liveboot?
[23:49] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, next time you open terminal you will be in ~/   again
[23:49] <k1l> !bootrepair | Finetundra
[23:50] <Finetundra>  EriC^^, as i said earlier, i was installing windows
[23:50] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:51] <Finetundra>  EriC^^, both you and k1l said i'd have to reinstall grub from a live boot
[23:51] <EriC^^> true
[23:51] <k1l> Finetundra: that is true. use bootrepair for a guided reinstall
[23:51] <Finetundra> k1l how do i get there
[23:51] <EriC^^> install pastebinit then type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:51] <k1l> Finetundra: see the bots message
[23:52] <EriC^^> Finetundra: you can do it manually, or use boot-repair
[23:52] <worik> I may have a problem with my kernel on a VPS.  /prov/version says 2.6.32-41 which is > 2 years old, /etc/issue says I am ubuntu 14.01 and in  I can find no mention of 2.6 kernels in /boot/grub.cfg nor any file in /etc/grub.d/.
[23:52] <Finetundra>  EriC^^, i'm just gonna use boot repair
[23:52] <EriC^^> Finetundra: boot-repair would take longer, and could possibly need some adjusting
[23:52] <k1l> worik: talk to your hoster. he is providing the kernel.
[23:53] <OerHeks> worik, check with your vps-provider ?
[23:53] <Finetundra>  EriC^^, ok then, talk me through your way
[23:53] <EriC^^> Finetundra: ok sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:53] <EriC^^> Finetundra: then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:53] <worik> OK.  Can it load form somewhere other than the file system?  Ther is no 2.6 kernel I can find there...
[23:54] <k1l> worik: you know what a vps is actually?
[23:54] <EriC^^> Finetundra: which windows did you install?
[23:54] <Finetundra>  EriC^^, win 10 beta
[23:54] <EriC^^> Finetundra: ok
[23:54] <k1l> worik: the kernel gets provided by the host-system. is that only provides a 2.6 kernel you cant do anything on your vps. so talk to the hoster to provide a modern kernel.
[23:55] <OerHeks> uh oh, windows10 crap can really mess up your grub
[23:55] <Jeroen1> how do I open a file in ubuntu?
[23:55] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: what type of file?
[23:55] <Jeroen1> config file for example
[23:55] <k1l> Jeroen1: depends what you mean with open
[23:55] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: using nautilus or the terminal?
[23:55] <k1l> Jeroen1: open it with a editor
[23:55] <Jeroen1> Terminal
[23:56] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: less <filename>
[23:56] <gabe__> do: $ file /path/to/your/file if you don't know what kind it is
[23:56] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: that's if you want to view it
[23:57] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: use any editor if you want to edit it, nano vim etc.
[23:57] <Jeroen1> and how do I get out of the file again?
[23:57] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: press "q"
[23:57] <Jeroen1> omg lol thanks
[23:57] <Jeroen1> used ctrl+Q
[23:59] <Jeroen1> but one more thing. Using less I can not edit it
[23:59] <Finetundra_> EriC^^, here ya go Finetundra
[23:59] <Jeroen1> how could I? :/
[23:59] <Finetundra_> oops
[23:59] <k1l> Jeroen1: use nano
[23:59] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: yeah, type nano <filename>
[23:59] <Finetundra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8909206/
[23:59] <k1l> Jeroen1: nano /file/to/path


[04:59] <alex_joni> fabbione: ping
[05:07] <valkyria> hi everyone
[05:07] <valkyria> I have a doubt about a kernel log message
[05:07] <valkyria> I don't have the exact message here I'm in another computer due to mine is not working properly
[05:08] <valkyria> is related with wifi
[05:09] <valkyria> when I leave kubuntu downloading alone without activity it freeze and in the kernel log said that wlan0 was trying to recalibrate but it couldn't because is was hot or something like that
[05:09] <valkyria> what is the meaning of the message
[05:09] <valkyria> is really hot of heat or it means something ele?
[05:20] <valkyria> I need some help I'm desaesperated
[05:20] <valkyria> every time I install linux
[05:20] <valkyria> my computers starts working bad
[05:21] <valkyria> I'm about to leave linux forever an start defending microsoft


[07:48] <DrManhattan> I'm getting a strange series of errors when I run du with the max-depth option. it doesn't interfere with the command but I am a bit worried about why it would do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765950/
[17:30] <hggdh> DrManhattan: /proc/<number> shows a running processs. One chance is this process has already ended (after 'du' looked at the directory, and before it processed the entries). I would not worry about these errors


[14:35] <dobey> is it just me, or is lp taking its sweet time publshing successful builds to a ppa's archive today?
[14:49] <james_w> dobey, it could well be due to the humble bundle
[14:50] <dobey> james_w: that would affect the speed of the green gear icon turning into a green check mark, on the PPA page on lp?
[14:51] <james_w> dobey, I believe so
[14:51] <dobey> hmm
[17:44] <dobey> hrmm. lp seems generally more upset today than usual
[21:44] <cm-t> hi, is there a site or something to check the statu of launchpad site ? (trying to register a new dev serie:Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. (Error ID: OOPS-61493187d8286292a72f12956de8b3cb)  )
[21:51] <cm-t> ah It works now


[05:51] <andrewlsd> a0
[05:53]  * andrewlsd plays with dlPhreak and inetpro's unicode shortcuts
[05:53]  * andrewlsd still wants to use @ to mention.
[05:54] <andrewlsd> Mornings all.
[06:11] <andrewlsd> yihaa . the new material design Android app for Quassel looks good
[06:28] <chesedo> Morning all
[06:28] <andrewlsd> Morning chesedo
[06:29] <chesedo> andrewlsd: yip just noticed it too
[06:29]  * chesedo has issues opening his desktop quassel ui
[06:35] <andrewlsd> chesedo: am using quassel-client-qt4 on 16.04 Unity DE
[06:37] <andrewlsd> ... apparently built May 2015: Version: v0.12.2 (dist-9c5e6c6)
[06:42] <chesedo> found the issue. something went wrong with its config file... deleted it
[06:42] <chesedo> so deleted*
[06:43] <chesedo> andrewlsd: quite correct :)
[09:17] <superfly> o/
[10:03] <paddatrapper> Hoi
[13:39] <Kilos> evening everyone, sorry im so late, way past bedtime here but tara just finished our gofundme thing so hopefully some rich peeps see it and feel sympathy for us
[13:41] <Kilos> maybe you guys can share the link in far corners for us
[13:41] <Kilos> https://www.gofundme.com/ReunionRoadblock
[14:04] <superfly> Kilos: post to Ubuntu-ZA mailing list
[14:05] <Kilos> hi superfly will do
[14:05] <Kilos> how you doing'
[14:05] <Kilos> has the family left yet
[14:05] <superfly> Kilos: I'm OK, just getting everything into place. I'll be sharing your fund. No, they only leave in October
[14:06] <Kilos> stay strong
[14:09] <superfly> Kilos: don't you worry about me.
[14:11] <Kilos> man thats what i do
[14:11] <Kilos> i need to sleep now
[14:11] <Kilos> sleep tight all and have a good onre
[14:52] <nlsthzn> pretty sure everyone here already knows but in case not - https://www.gofundme.com/reunionroadblock
[15:08] <nlsthzn> ping superfly, inetpro, nuvolari, etc...
[15:08] <nlsthzn> ^^
[18:11] <superfly> nlsthzn: yup, I saw. Kilos posted in here
[18:11] <superfly> (and on my Facebook newsfeed)
[18:38] <nlsthzn> yup... sucks
[20:02] <kulelu88> superfly: the closest to a solution currently is gitlab
[20:04] <superfly> kulelu88: indeed
[20:11] <theblazehen> superfly: What you looking for?
[20:12] <superfly> theblazehen: not looking for anything, kulelu88 and I were discussing the irony of Github, all those open source projects hosted on a proprietary service on a company's servers whom you have no control over.
[20:13] <kulelu88> literally thousands of python/node/ruby projects rely on it, which is then transferred to their respective package-managers
[20:14] <theblazehen> Ah. Yeah. https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki seems interesting
[20:14] <superfly> fossil is what sqlite uses
[20:16] <kulelu88> I see a lot of projects use their own git servers, which is still a good thing
[20:17] <superfly> yup
[20:17] <superfly> I've been contemplating seeing about setting up my own bzr server
[20:17] <superfly> well, I have already set up my own personal bzr server, but it requires an account on the machine and blah blah blah
[20:18] <kulelu88> tried gogs.io ?
[20:18] <superfly> I think I've come across it before. Aren't you the one that showed it to me?
[20:19] <superfly> isn't that the one whose code is hosted on Github. Oh the irony.
[20:19] <superfly> yup
[20:19] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Yes
[20:19] <theblazehen> Not a good idea with big repos
[20:19] <superfly> self-hosted and yet they don't self-host.
[20:20] <theblazehen> Got something like - 124 issues open on one project
[20:20] <superfly> https://kallithea-scm.org/
[20:31] <kulelu88> the advantage of gogs.io is that it can be run on minimal hardware. that is about all advantages it has
[20:32] <kulelu88> do you guys know how to hide join/exit messages on hexchat permanently? If I don't close hexchat properly, it reverts them all back to default
[20:32] <theblazehen> kulelu88: 1 GB ram is cheap. I'd rather be swapping with gitlab, than having gitlab start by getting slower, then start getting corrupted db etc
[20:35] <kulelu88> i'm not sure I follow theblazehen ? "than having gitlab start by getting slower"?
[20:35] <theblazehen> Sorry, s/gitlab/gogs/
[20:36] <theblazehen> Was fast at first
[20:36] <theblazehen> Then ittook quite a bit longer
[20:36] <theblazehen> and eventually got gateway timeouts a lot
[20:46] <kulelu88> this was gogs? theblazehen
[20:47] <theblazehen> kulelu88: indeed.
[20:48] <theblazehen> Seems like the wrong numbers disappeared now though
[20:49] <theblazehen> Might be when I edited the db so that I could start it after a reboot
[20:58] <kulelu88> interesting that you say it slowed down. Perhaps it was written in Go, but written poorly
[22:40] <superfly> I see oom Kilos' fund is slowly starting. superfly For those of you who know Kilos, he's in Australia visiting his ex-wife and his daughter. Unfortunately he suffered a heart attack while he was there, and now is faced with a hospital bill they can't afford.https://www.gofundme.com/ReunionRoadblock/
[22:40] <superfly> Oops
[22:40] <superfly> Copy paste fail
[22:41] <superfly> Hard when you're on your phone
[22:42] <superfly> Anyway, please go donate some money for oom Kilos


[06:27] <vpa1977> Hi, quite a few java packages are blocked on pgpainless (which has a newer version in lunar-proposed).
[06:27] <vpa1977> Failure to migrate it is caused by trying to do autopackagetest with JDK 11 (https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/results/autopkgtest-lunar/lunar/amd64/p/pgpainless/20221204_081457_6bb53@/log.gz). Now that we have JDK 17 the test should pass (I've ran them locally).
[06:27] <vpa1977> Would it be possible to retry following tests:
[06:27] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=amd64&package=pgpainless&trigger=pgpainless%2F1.3.13-2
[06:27] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=arm64&package=pgpainless&trigger=pgpainless%2F1.3.13-2
[06:27] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=ppc64el&package=pgpainless&trigger=pgpainless%2F1.3.13-2
[06:27] <vpa1977> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=s390x&package=pgpainless&trigger=pgpainless%2F1.3.13-2
[06:27] <vpa1977> Thank you!!!!


[09:44] <mup> Bug #1646748 opened: Django settings in regiond are squatting in the maas namespace <MAAS:In Progress by allenap> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646748>
[15:43] <junaidali> Hi all, I've a bond in which there are around 5 vlans + 1 untagged (default) vlan. From MAAS UI, I'm able to create the bond but I don't see any way to add tagged vlan subnets.
[15:44] <junaidali> I added the vlan interfaces and using the fabric that has the bond but vlan field appears to be disabled.
[15:44] <junaidali> Am I missing any step here?
[15:45] <junaidali> added the vlan interfaces using the fabric*
[15:46] <junaidali> the only subnet that I can select is the untagged vlan subnet for any newly added interface (i.e bondX.YYY)
[15:58] <roaksoax> junaidali: version of MAAS ?
[15:59] <roaksoax> junaidali: but if you hover over the interface there will be a "+"sign on the right (next to edit)
[15:59] <roaksoax> click on there
[16:01] <junaidali> roaksoax: 2.1
[16:01] <junaidali> i did that but vlan field is still greyed
[16:02] <roaksoax> junaidali: do you have vlans in that fabric ?
[16:02] <junaidali> yes
[16:03] <roaksoax> junaidali: there's is a "Type" Dropdown
[16:03] <roaksoax> where you can select VLAN
[16:06] <junaidali> roaksoax: ah got that, thanks alot
[16:22] <newbie-Georges> Hello, I'm seeing MAAS for the 1st time... can anyone tell me what would be the cost for bandwith I can't find this info anywhere...
[16:24] <newbie-Georges> when we say 10$ per server per month... what kind of power are we talking about? how many users would the server be able to handle...
[16:24] <newbie-Georges> hello?
[16:25] <newbie-Georges> is this IRC still live? or is this still going from the 90's I haven't seen IRC for over 15 years...
[16:28] <newbie-Georges> I also had one last question... the Ubuntu server 16.04 or 16.10, are these free to use ? and we can purchase support?
[16:29] <newbie-Georges> I haven't played with Linux in a while...
[16:29] <newbie-Georges> is everyone in a private chat or something?
[16:29] <newbie-Georges> is there no one here?
[16:30] <brendand> newbie-Georges, hi. that's a lot of questions :)
[16:30] <newbie-Georges> I know
[16:30] <newbie-Georges> sorry
[16:31] <newbie-Georges> I'm trying to assess if this is going to be doable for us...
[16:31] <brendand> newbie-Georges, if setting everything up yourself, both maas and ubuntu are free
[16:31] <newbie-Georges> oh wow ok
[16:31] <brendand> newbie-Georges, $10 refers to the support pricing
[16:32] <brendand> newbie-Georges, the hardware maas manages is expected to be provided by the user
[16:33] <brendand> newbie-Georges, i'm not sure what you're trying to do
[16:33] <newbie-Georges> ah it's sort of Vmware or Hyper-v then...
[16:33] <newbie-Georges> deploying a mobile app
[16:34] <newbie-Georges> I need to setup a couple of servers... apache and sql
[16:34] <newbie-Georges> not sure how big its going to be...
[16:34] <brendand> newbie-Georges, do you own hardware?
[16:34] <brendand> or want to
[16:35] <newbie-Georges> 256GB RAM DDR4 1.5TB SSD Server Dual CPU Xeon5...
[16:35] <newbie-Georges> we already have that setup
[16:35] <brendand> newbie-Georges, but i guess you expect just to install and deploy the app once, right?
[16:35] <newbie-Georges> hopefully
[16:36] <newbie-Georges> it will be available for download... once we are setup with the backend
[16:36] <brendand> newbie-Georges, maas in that case might be an extra layer you don't need
[16:36] <brendand> since you need to install at least one server in the first place to run maas :)
[16:36] <newbie-Georges> ah ok
[16:37] <newbie-Georges> yes I looked at the structure...
[16:37] <newbie-Georges> I thought it was cloud based...
[16:37] <newbie-Georges> hence my questions
[16:37] <newbie-Georges> but it now makes sense
[16:37] <brendand> newbie-Georges, ah well - it's kind of the opposite - it helps make clouds :)
[16:38] <newbie-Georges> if the app takes off, I'll be more than happy to be a contributor to the community...
[16:38] <newbie-Georges> (to become)
[16:39] <newbie-Georges> great respect
[16:39] <mup> Bug #1646891 opened: adding basic auth credentials to simplestreams URL errors out <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646891>
[16:39] <newbie-Georges> ok brendand, I thank you so much for your help... you've been awsome
[16:40] <newbie-Georges> I know how to proceed from here
[16:40] <newbie-Georges> :)
[16:40] <newbie-Georges> thanks a million
[16:40] <newbie-Georges> cross my fingers this works out! :)
[16:40] <newbie-Georges> have a great day
[19:23] <Dougi> hi, just installed latest maas server, set it up like i did before, but when i try to add a node to it, it got this error: certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:645)
[19:24] <Dougi> on the node, and the node does not got listed in the node list.
[19:25] <Dougi> so my question is why? does nobody know?
[20:20] <Andor> how can i configure lsi megaraid with maas?
[20:21] <Andor> and some hardware settings like default cpu power mode
[20:45] <mup> Bug #1646955 opened: 'main_archive_hostname' is not defined <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646955>
[22:19] <mup> Bug #1646976 opened: [2.1] 1 node cannot be deployed, because the required boot images have not been imported. To import boot images, visit the images page. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646976>
[23:34] <derekcat> Hey everyone, could I trouble someone for a little help the cs:~/blake-rouse/maas-region-4 charm?
[23:34] <derekcat> I'm getting the Workload: blocked and the Message: "Missing admin config", but the credentials appear to be there if I run $ juju config maas-region
[23:34] <derekcat> Not sure where it's trying to tell me to go look...


[09:47] <ochosi> knome: reminder: wallpaper
[09:47] <ochosi> knome: reminder: team meeting
[09:50] <knome> yes, there is now some progress on the wallpaper
[09:51] <knome> for the team meeting, it's likely better is somebody else schedules if it's needed "soon"
[12:56] <Unit193> bluesabre: Not sure -panel will make it at this point..
[13:37] <ochosi> :/
[13:37] <ochosi> that sucks
[13:37] <ochosi> do ppl will complain another cycle long about that systray issue
[13:43] <Unit193> SRU, if no FFe?
[14:26] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: Seed OEM linux kernel flavour, with the others @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=09fdf7afee361af4eb32389613f7e7d1179e13da (by Dimitri John Ledkov)
[17:23] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah i guess... i tried to do the release asap though to enable us to get it into eoan more easily than SRU
[23:15] <bluesabre> ochosi: sorry about that, didn't get a free moment from work last month
[23:15] <Unit193> It happens.
[23:15] <ochosi> no worries, it's ok
[23:16] <ochosi> people should learn to rely on the systray less and less anyway ;)
[23:16] <Unit193> I don't really see any reason to prefer indicators over systray, but I don't really use the latter.
[23:16] <bluesabre> What was the issue being addressed?
[23:20] <ochosi> systray being corrupted visually without compositin
[23:20] <ochosi> g
[23:21] <bluesabre> Ah, gotcha
[23:22] <bluesabre> Well, can still SRU that. I'll work on it tonight
[23:22] <Unit193> Hey look, there's three of us here!  Meeting time! :P
[23:22] <Unit193> bluesabre: Anything besides the wallpaper pending?
[23:23] <bluesabre> Unit193: no idea, I'm completely behind and just now starting to catch back up
[23:27] <ochosi> updating the default panel layout a bit to enable grouping in tasklist would have been a nice-to-have
[23:27] <ochosi> but i totally forgot about that
[23:27] <ochosi> let's try to make the LTS cound
[23:27] <ochosi> count
[23:27] <Unit193> That means you can't move them, naaaah. :P
[23:33] <ochosi> wow you do that?
[23:33] <ochosi> i've never DnD'd a single window in the tasklist *ever*
[23:34] <Unit193> ..You don't sort them?  I open things in a specific order, and if things have to be restarted I will move them.
[23:34] <Unit193> ...I really shouldn't have written that.
[23:35] <bluesabre> :D
[23:35] <Unit193> That's actually what annoyed me greatly with Windows 7, it'd "link" windows of the same application together, and the only way to fix the order was to close them and re-open.  It was stupid.
[23:36] <bluesabre> I rearrange the window list when I use it... jumping around and not staying put is no good
[23:36] <bluesabre> hence, the addiction to plank
[23:36] <bluesabre> Window buttons are always where they were
[23:37] <Unit193> ochosi: Joking aside, that's fine.  I can change a setting, after all it's now on what I use now. :)
[23:39] <ochosi> :)
[23:39] <ochosi> i think all of those things are habits
[23:39] <ochosi> i was also using plank for a long time
[23:39] <ochosi> but then i thought i need to get rid of it to remain motivated to improve stuff in our panel
[23:39] <ochosi> that's why i improved the grouping code in the end
[23:51] <Unit193> I use the panel, only issue I have is when I send -r, it quits.