[22:26] <AgentTeddie> how do I reset the Gnome panel, there is an error with it and i forgot the command
[22:26] <bubblegummybear> lol!
[22:26] <acicula> !resetgpanel
[22:27] <bubblegummybear> !panels
[22:27] <Psydoll> smw basically im confused i have a .exe file instead that i need to run just run it in wine? and if i have an iso even if i mount it im unsure as to how to access it and use it
[22:27] <dru__> Can any1 help me with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto Im strugling to find my model
[22:27] <smw> battlehands, if you want to transfer files, open the file browser and go to sftp://the-host/
[22:27] <omid> acicula i can just see lubuntu environment in ubuntu software center.how could i have KDE or XFCe in ubuntu? i want to switch between Gnome and KDE when i wanted to.and most people say that KDE takes a lot of space while my ubuntu system drive has only capacity of 25 gb
[22:27] <AgentTeddie> thanks guys! got it, for somereason my shutdown button was all garbled and now its fine...
[22:28] <battlehands> smw, Im setting up my desktop as the ssh server atm
[22:28] <acicula> omid: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[22:28] <smw> omid, "alot" is relative. It takes less than 3 GB
[22:29] <AgentTeddie> Everytime I boot up, I get this message before I get to my login screen, "EDID Checksum Invalid, Remainder is 22." What does that mean
[22:29] <acicula> dru__: what laptop do you have, also paste output from lspci | grep Audio
[22:29] <smw> Psydoll, yes, you just run it in wine. However, I highly suggest against this. Using wine is not easy.
 having both KDE and Gnome installed dosnt have any effect on performance and something like that?
[22:29] <soul> Aignor: I got it fixed... you are gonna laugh when I tell you how
[22:30] <smw> omid, not on performance.
[22:30] <Psydoll> smw its a programme with a gui how hard could it be?
[22:30] <dru__> acer 5738 zg I dunno what lspci is
[22:30] <smw> omid, just disk space and clutter. :-)
[22:30] <soul> Aignor: all I did was....... REBOOT hahaha, thank you for your help though, you helped me learn some new commands to trouble shoot
[22:30] <smw> Psydoll, what is a program with a gui?
[22:30] <Psydoll> smw surely you cant use an iso in wine after its mounted?
[22:30] <liam> I'm looking through the instructions for Wine and one of the instructions is "Open Terminal, and cd into the directory where the .exe is" What does it mean by cd?
[22:30] <acicula> dru__: you can type it in a console, gives a aline of output telling you what audio hw youhav
[22:31] <dru__> acicula,  please be more precise Im novice
[22:31] <Psydoll> smw what i mean is it has boxes to configure and check its not command line driven is wine is it?
[22:31] <vacho> usr/sbin/adduser
[22:31] <vacho> adduser: The group `admin' already exists.
[22:31] <vacho> wtf ??
[22:31] <Psydoll> smw i actually dont have wine, when i type sudo apt-get Wine i get a bus error?
[22:32] <smw> Psydoll, sudo apt-get install wine?
[22:32] <acicula> dru__: nvm, your audio driver is called snd_hda_intel
[22:32] <Psydoll> lowercase let me try it again
[22:32] <liam> I'm looking through the instructions for Wine and one of the instructions is "Open Terminal, and cd into the directory where the .exe is" What does it mean by cd?
[22:32] <Psydoll> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get wine
[22:32] <Psydoll> E: Invalid operation wine
[22:32] <Psydoll> smw
[22:32] <acicula> Psydoll: install
[22:33] <Psydoll> ofC!
[22:33] <Psydoll> sudo apt-get install wine
[22:33] <Psydoll> let me try
[22:33] <dru__> So i do type in options snd-hda-intel model=snd_hda_intel into the alsa-base?
[22:33] <battlehands> smw, how do I login to my SSHd (desktop) from my laptop?  (both running ubuntu)
[22:33] <Psydoll> smw
[22:33] <Psydoll> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[22:33] <Psydoll> Bus error (core dumped). 0%
[22:33] <Psydoll> i knew i tried them all lol!
[22:33] <acicula> dru__: that i dont know, you dont normally need to specify that. what are you trying to do?
[22:33] <omid> thank you <smw> and <acicula> . you helped me so much. i'll try what you said
[22:33] <smw> Psydoll, I have no idea
[22:33] <dru__> go to the link
[22:34] <acicula> Psydoll: you may have bigger problems with errors like that
[22:34] <smw> Psydoll, that is bad
[22:34] <dru__> and see the part where i need to type in the model
[22:34] <acicula> dru__: i did, doesnt tell me anything about what you are doing
[22:34] <dru__> Im not sure which model I need to type in
[22:34] <Psydoll> smw acicula im running of a persistent usb
[22:34] <dru__> Im having sound qulity problems with my laptop
[22:34] <Psydoll> i dont know if thats causing
[22:34] <liam> I'm looking through the instructions for Wine and one of the instructions is "Open Terminal, and cd into the directory where the .exe is" What does it mean by cd?
[22:34] <acicula> Psydoll: errors like that ussually mean hardware problems
[22:35] <smw> battlehands, ssh user@host
[22:35] <Psydoll> acicula, everything is fine here
[22:35] <smw> battlehands, that easy
[22:35] <acicula> dru__: what is the real problem you are trying to solve?
[22:35] <vacho> how do I remove a group in ubuntu????
[22:35] <dru__> Im having sound qulity problems
[22:36] <battlehands> smw,  it said that it could not resolve the host. name or service not known
[22:36] <liam> I'm looking through the instructions for Wine and one of the instructions is "Open Terminal, and cd into the directory where the .exe is" What does it mean by cd?
[22:36] <crow_> hi
[22:36] <cosmo_> I cant figure out what I have set wrong, the windows machines on my home network can see me and the folders I shared but when they try to access them they get the message "Not accessible Might not have permission"
[22:36] <Psydoll> smw can you recommend a small programme that i can try installing to see if other programs work?
[22:36] <earthmeLon> In ubuntu, I can open Startup Applications to add an application to start at boot.  In Xubuntu, however, I am unable to find 'Startup Applications' or anything of the like.  Any suggestions?
[22:36] <battlehands> psydoll, scilab
[22:36] <Psydoll> scilab?
[22:36] <Psydoll> kk
[22:36] <battlehands> Psydoll, sudo apt-get scilab
[22:37] <battlehands> Psydoll, sudo apt-get install scilab
[22:37] <ericy> liam: cd is a command, which changes directory.
[22:37] <AgentTeddie_> .
[22:37] <Psydoll> yeah im trying it
[22:37] <liam> ericy: how do I use cd?
[22:37] <Psydoll> got the same error
[22:38] <dru__> model basic works
[22:38] <alfio> aa
[22:39] <ericy> Open a terminal window (Accessories), and "cd directory"
[22:39] <ericy> liam: Open a terminal window (Accessories), and "cd directory"
[22:39] <battlehands> Can someone help me configure my openssh server file?
[22:39] <acicula> dru__: model refers to the laptop i think, so acer ? the wiki links to a thread with a list on models
[22:40] <dru__> acicula,  cant find my model
[22:40] <liam> Ericy: got it, thanks.
[22:40] <smw> battlehands, why do you want to do that?
[22:40] <acicula> dru__: dunno then
[22:40] <ericy> liam: Try "help cd" first.
[22:40] <leftist> i cannot locate the create a usb startup disk option under system/admin/ yet i checked and i see it is installed
[22:41] <battlehands> smw, because I want to use SSH to login to my desktop from any other computer and access/create files.  Im trying to learn HOW to do that and apparently I need to configure my sshserver file after having installed it.
[22:42] <smw> battlehands, you don't have to configure anything
[22:42] <acicula> battlehands: actually the default just works
[22:42] <mickster04> battlehands: not really, the normal config is fine
[22:42] <battlehands> smw,  could you help me get started?
[22:42] <liam> Ericy: I used "cd directory" like you said and terminal gave me ">", I typed wine "application.exe" like the Wine tutorial asks and it said "Bash: directorywine: application" cannot be found
[22:42] <smw> battlehands, if you already installed it, all that is left is to ssh to it.
[22:43] <Psydoll> exit
[22:43] <leftist> i looked under ubuntu software installation and i see it is installed but i dont see it under the path. what would be the command line ?
[22:43] <battlehands> smw, this is my first time doing anything like this, so I dont even know how to start using it.
[22:43] <battlehands> smw, I installed the server package on my desktop, and I installed the client package on my laptop
[22:43] <smw> battlehands, it comes with the client
[22:43] <smw> battlehands, anyways, just ssh user@host
[22:43] <battlehands> smw, what comes with the client?
[22:44] <smw> battlehands, ubuntu
[22:44] <battlehands> smw,  I tried that already when you said it earlier... and I received an error message.
[22:44] <battlehands> smw, could you be more specific in your instructions?
[22:45] <ericy> liam: Leave off the " ".
[22:45] <smw> battlehands, so instead of telling me that, you decided to edit a config file? lol. What was the error?
[22:45] <ericy> liam: And for directory, what did you type?
[22:46] <battlehands> I opened my laptop terminal (the computer Im using as a client), and typed "ssh battlehands@battlehands-dkt" and it said that the name or service was unknown.
[22:47] <smw> battlehands, that means that that dns name does not exist.
[22:47] <suprbly> hello
[22:47] <liam> Ericy: Yes, I did that.. XD I typed "media\expansion drive" my XHDD is called Expansion Drive and I don't know how to cd to it
[22:47] <smw> battlehands, use ip address.
[22:47] <battlehands> smw,  how
[22:47] <smw> battlehands, replace the host with the ip
[22:48] <battlehands> ok
[22:48] <dTx> battlehands, or you could try battlehands-dkt.local if you have mdns
[22:48] <battlehands> smw, I dont know what mdns means
[22:48] <dTx> just try it
[22:48] <dTx> :P
[22:48] <battlehands> smw, I was also under the impression that I need some type of hosting to use SSH
[22:49] <mickster04> battlehands: by installing ssh server you are hosting a ssh server?
[22:49] <smw> battlehands, something has to host it. Your desktop works
[22:49] <ericy> liam: It sounds like perhaps you need to learn the basics of directories & files.  Try this "man pwd" (without the ").
[22:49] <battlehands> dTx, it said that the authenticity cannot be established,,, do I continue?
[22:49] <mrdeb> is 10.10 worth installing now that 11.04 is coming?
[22:49] <smw> battlehands, yes
[22:49] <liam> Ericy: I do, this is my first day using Ubuntu :P
[22:49] <suprbly> 11.04 is coming
[22:49] <suprbly> crap
[22:49] <Polah> mrdeb, perhaps not, 11.04 is only a month away
[22:50] <suprbly> i just installed 10.10
[22:50] <mickster04> suprbly: just update?
[22:50] <mrdeb> so, 10.04 or wait for 11.04?
[22:50] <mickster04> mrdeb: i would say yes
[22:50] <suprbly> ya i will.. so far unbuntu rocks
[22:50] <battlehands> Warning: permanently added<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to list of known hosts!!
[22:50] <ericy> liam: OK. To get help on the commands, do man "command"
[22:50] <mickster04> mrdeb: as in install 10.10, then update
[22:50] <suprbly> is 11.04 coming with gnome 3
[22:50] <mickster04> battlehands: that is a good thing
[22:51] <battlehands> mickster04, so am I in the terminal of my desktop now?
[22:51] <dougl> how do I install adobe flash player for ubuntu 10.10?
[22:51] <Logan_> !natty | suprbly
[22:51] <ericy> liam: It gives you a manual page or document on terminal commads; Try man pwd
[22:51] <Logan_> !flash | dougl
[22:51] <shell> hola
[22:51] <Logan_> !es | shell
[22:51] <dougl> Logan_, thanks
[22:51] <Logan_> dougl: you're welcome
[22:51] <ericy> liam: "man pwd" (without the ")
[22:51] <suprbly> o
[22:52] <mickster04> battlehands: yes
[22:52] <liam> Ericy: Done that, yes. Comes up with a load of text.
[22:52] <suprbly> so its not going to be out for average folks for awhile
[22:52] <Polah> Isn't Canonical removing the "Edition" from Ubuntu releases with 11.04?
[22:52] <mickster04> battlehands: type in uname -a and see what comes out
[22:52] <mickster04> Polah: what you do mean edition?
[22:53] <battlehands> Linux battlehandsdkt ...
[22:53] <ericy> liam: (By the way, do q key to quit/exit a manual page...
[22:53] <Polah> Mickster04: I remember seeing an article that they are discontinuing "Ubuntu Desktop Edition" and "Ubuntu Netbook Edition" in favour of just "Ubuntu" that will run well on both, and replacing "Ubuntu Server Edition" with just "Ubuntu Server"
[22:53] <mrdeb> which edition
[22:53] <liam> Ericy: Wondered what the escape char was XD I can't see any relevant information in "man pwd" though
[22:54] <battlehands> mickster04, I have a partition created on my desktop that is specifically for files.  how do I access them through terminal?
[22:54] <ericy> liam: Try "man pwd" , because you need to change your current working directory.
[22:54] <mrdeb> Polah: yes
[22:54] <battlehands> mickster04, they are in a folder called "Magnificent"
[22:54] <battlehands> smw, thank you for the help
[22:54] <mickster04> Polah: oic, yeah, uhm netbook is out, and it's just ubuntu and ubuntu server, no need for the word edition, but it doesn't matter any, makes no change
[22:54] <smw> battlehands, np
[22:54] <liam> Ericy: I've used "man pwd", now what?
[22:54] <battlehands> dTx, thank you as well
[22:54] <Polah> mrdeb, mhm, I just found the article again
[22:54] <Orson> Hola guys, in a BETA Invitaion on Rails 3 I have a problem in the signup url yet didn't find a solution http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/1298457#new any idea?
[22:55] <AnubArack> How can I make Sound Recorder, record from the desktop and not the mic ?
[22:55] <mickster04> battlehands: cd ~/Desktop/Magnificent
[22:55] <dTx> battlehands, you're welcome
[22:55] <Kre10s> liam: man stands for manual. it means your supposed to read the output of that command.
[22:55] <battlehands> mickster04, no such file or directory
[22:55] <ericy> liam: Change to the directory where your .exe file is.  Another command you need is ls do  "ls"
[22:55] <liam> Kre10s: I read it, there seems to be very little to no relevant information there.
[22:55] <mickster04> battlehands: use tab to autocomplete the address
[22:56] <battlehands> is doesnt seem to be finding it
[22:56] <battlehands> mickster04, is there a way I can search for that directoy?
[22:56] <mickster04> battlehands: well do cd ~/ and enter
[22:56] <battlehands> mickster04, directory*
[22:56] <mickster04> battlehands: then do a ls
[22:57] <vacho> guys I am getting: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu ... why?
[22:57] <battlehands> mickster04, ok, ty
[22:57] <mickster04> battlehands: which will list everything in your home folder, find your desktop folder then the folder you are after
[22:58] <ericy> liam: Command: ls - list directory contents
[22:58] <soul> ls -laX = really helpful command to sue
[22:58] <soul> use*
[22:58] <battlehands> mickster04, the issues is that the partition is not in my home folder or on my desktop... so how do I find it then?
[22:59] <vacho> Help is really appreciated gentlemen, someone?
[22:59] <liam> Ericy: Okay, at the minute pwd gives me "user/home" how to I move up in the directory so I can access my XHDD?
[22:59] <soul> battlehands: do this command -- > $locate <file>
[22:59] <liam> Ericy: "\home\user" even.
[23:00] <AnubArack> How can I make Sound Recorder, record from the desktop and not the mic ?
[23:00] <ericy> liam: Do "help cd"
[23:00] <battlehands> soul, -bash syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[23:00] <battlehands> soul, Im also looking for a drive partition, not a file
[23:00] <soul> battlehands... did you do that with out the $ symbol?
[23:01] <soul> oooh okay battlehands
[23:01] <battlehands> soul,  no
[23:01] <soul> battlehands.... "locate <file>" helps to find files... didn't know you were looking for a partion though... you can try to install gparted... really good partion tool
[23:02] <battlehands> soul, I dont need to create a partition... I need to access it through SSH using terminal.  Im logged into the SSH server, and I need to get into one of its partitions.
[23:02] <soul> battlehands "sudo aptitude install gparted" I believe.......... also... the locate cmd should find ur partion too, everything in linux is a FILE after all :)
[23:03] <soul> battlehands....... oooooooh lol, nevermind haha
[23:03] <vacho> http://pastebin.com/FYy5QVba why am I getting: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[23:03] <ericy> liam: Example: cd /home/user/Documents
[23:04] <soul> battlehands... did you check the /mnt diretroy yet?
[23:04] <soul> directory*
[23:04] <battlehands> soul, what do you mean by check it?
[23:05] <soul> if ur in ssh you can go to the root file and see if what you are looking for is in /mnt
[23:05] <liam> Ericy: That example was lots of help. Although my XHDDs name has a space in it and that seems to be making problems for it
[23:05] <battlehands> soul,  how do I navigate to my /mnt through terminal?
[23:05] <soul> battlehands: cd /
[23:05]  * tommylommykins waves
[23:05] <battlehands> soul, I found it
[23:05] <soul> battlehands then type... cd mnt
[23:05] <battlehands> soul, how do I open the partition?
[23:06] <tommylommykins> is it possible to install packages while booted from a livecd?
[23:06] <mrdeb> is ubuntu 10.10 bette than 10.04 and faster?
[23:06] <ericy> liam: put quotes around the directory name.
[23:06] <battlehands> soul, it is listed as "Magnificent" in the mnt dir.
[23:06] <high-rez> Is there a way to get the source tree for the very specific version of the kernel I'm running now ?
[23:06] <tommylommykins> c
[23:06] <soul> battlehands....... hmmm, try ls -laX to waht permissions you get first
[23:06] <soul> what*
[23:06] <Polah> mrdeb: It's the later version; so I'd assume it makes mostly improvements
[23:06] <battlehands> soul, command not found
[23:06] <battlehands> tommylommykins, yes
[23:06] <mrdeb> it is faster
[23:06] <ericy> Spaces in file and directory names, are evil.
[23:06] <battlehands> !packages
[23:06] <soul> battlehands "ls -la"
[23:07] <battlehands> soul,  a bunch of nonsense showed up
[23:07] <soul> battle: you should be able to just mount that file to ur computer then you are able to go through it,.... I am not sure how to do that part though hahaha
[23:07] <tommylommykins> battlehands: I can't get apt-get to work straight off
[23:07] <vacho> WHY DO I GET permission denied on: sudo "bellagio" > /etc/hostname
[23:07] <tommylommykins> apt-get update errors with no address associated with hostname
[23:08] <soul> vacho: sudo
[23:08] <battlehands> tommylommykins, try synaptic package manager
[23:08] <vacho> I am doing sudo!
[23:08] <liam> Ericy: It's not having that problem anymore but now it won't find the directory even though I know what I'm typing is correct
[23:08] <Rodolfo> so whats up? any news on the upcoming U11.04?
[23:08] <Polah> vacho: Why are you defining "Bellagio"?  I don't want to silence for everyone, I just want to ignore them in *my* view
[23:10] <datakid> any tips
[23:11] <liam> Bubblegummybear: It still rejected it with caps in place/
[23:11] <battlehands> tommylommykins, as far as I know
[23:11] <bubblegummybear> hm
[23:12] <battlehands> soul, http://imagebin.org/143599
[23:12] <soul> battlehands... try Google search "ubuntu how to mount from ssh" and go to the 2nd find...
[23:13] <ericy> liam: I think what you should have done was: cd /home/user/Pictures
[23:14] <Auriga> Hi, does anyone know how to stop applications which are opening, from following you across desktops, & opening where you are?
[23:14] <soul> battlehands: tell me if that link helps you k... Google search "ubuntu how to mount from ssh" and the second result
[23:14] <soul> battlehands: when you use "ls -lax" its all one command ;)
[23:14] <liam> Ericy: Oh sod, you're right. :P Okay, now I've got the hang of cd command, how do I cd into my XHDD, because "cd "/XHDD Name/folder"" isn't working
[23:15] <gerrin> need help, im running 10.10 and im having choppy audio when running emulators, anybody know a fix?
[23:15] <cayne> I have no idea if I am even close to the right room here, but I am looking for help with bash scripting
[23:16] <battlehands> soul, I think it should be simpler than that.
[23:16] <ericy> liam: What this XHDD ?
[23:16] <liam> Ericy: XHDD = External Hard Drive
[23:17] <battlehands> soul,  when I type Magnificent/ it says, "Magnificent is a directory".... Well... thanks, Ubuntu, now let me in that directory!!!
[23:17] <cayne> gerrin: which emulators?
[23:17] <soul> battlehands: lol, yah I never tried, just passing the info on haha........... type "cd Magnificent"
[23:17] <cayne> battlehands: cd magnificent
[23:17] <gerrin> mupen64plus and visualboyadvance
[23:17] <ericy> liam: External HDD's are usually mounted on: /media/....
[23:17] <Nicolas_Leonidas> hey ubuntu server asks me for "Enter the administrative password" and when I enter the only password I have, it does not work
[23:18] <battlehands> soul, wow.. I had tried that several times before... but now its worked.. Thanks
[23:18] <battlehands> cayne, thanks
[23:18] <ericy> liam: Do ls /media
[23:18] <battlehands> soul, how do I open a file from terminal?
[23:18] <soul> battlehands: you are very welcome :D ^5
[23:18] <cayne> gerrin: I had problems with VBA on gentoo a couple weeks ago and found that recompiling it with different use flags helped a ton. What sound system are you using? ALSO or OSS?
[23:18] <soul> battlehands: gedit <filename>
[23:19] <cayne> gerrin: sorry, ALSA
[23:19] <soul> battlehands: its it a txt file you type "gedit <file>"
[23:19] <gerrin> not sure, how can i find out
[23:19] <liam> Ericy: When I do /media, I get into the media directory, but when I do /media/expansion drive" it doesn't work (expansion drive being the name of my external hard drive)
[23:19] <battlehands> soul,  so I need to specify the app that Im using to open the file before I open the file?
[23:20] <suprbly>  battlehands: and put a '&' after the file name
[23:20] <cayne> gerrin: try typing in "which alsa" without the quotes
[23:20] <battlehands> soul, for example... if Im using Texmaker to open a latex file I would do texmaker <test.tex> ???
[23:20] <cayne> gerin I bet that is what you are using right now
[23:20] <soul> battlehands: not sure... you can jsut try to "cd" in to it too and see it that works
[23:20] <ericy> liam: And if you see your XHDD, do: cd /media/"expansion drive"
[23:20] <battlehands> soul, ok.  I will play around with it
[23:20] <battlehands> soul, thanks again
[23:20] <gerrin> type that in terminal right?
[23:20] <suprbly> liam: you can also try the locate command
[23:20] <soul> battlehands: you are very welcome, glad I could help
[23:21] <cayne> gerrin: yup. just without the quotes
[23:21] <gerrin> got   /sbin/alsa
[23:21] <ericy> liam: Error > And if you see your XHDD, do: cd "/media/expansion drive"
[23:22] <cayne> yeah, thats the issue then. I would try compiling VBA from source using OSS instead and see if that helps any
[23:22] <gerrin> ok, im such a noob lol, how do i do that?
[23:22] <liam> Ericy: It's working now! I can open the .exe! Thanks a lot for the run through!!
[23:22] <cayne> gerrin: the same thing goes for mupen too
[23:23] <ericy> liam: Anytime. Bye.
[23:23] <cayne> gerrin: hit up the official website for VBA and look for a download section. You want to download the VBAFILENAME.tar.gz
[23:23] <gerrin> ok
[23:23] <vacho> I am new to webmin and I just installed it.. how do I setup php and mysql through webmin?
[23:24] <Urocyon> I have a vexing problem.  I uninstalled some packages, but now when I reinstall them they don't get completely installed.  They are missing configuration files and such.   Tried purging deleting, etc, but when I go to reinstall - it doesn't work.
[23:24] <cayne> gerrin: be warned though, compiling from source might end up with you scratching your head a fair bit, but you will learn a ton in the process
[23:24] <Urocyon> any ideas on what I may have done and how to correct?
[23:24] <gerrin> ok preciate it
[23:25] <cozziemoto> Urocyon,  which packages
[23:25] <itaylor57> !webmin | vacho
[23:25] <Urocyon> well, in this case postgres 9 using martin's backports.
[23:25] <vacho> itaylor57: that's not true..it is supported..I just installed it?
[23:26] <cozziemoto> Urocyon, ooo ok.. not sure then,,, did you try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:26] <cayne> anyone able to help me out with bash scripting? I am trying to write a script that will rename FOO.BAR into something else using a combination of variables to automate the creation of a cert file for my server, but the default name won't do for me, and I would like to rename it based on my hostname. I'm good on the $HOSTNAME part, but I want the file to end up being called $HOSTNAME_ldap_key
[23:26] <itaylor57> vacho: no I just made up the factoid in the bot
[23:26] <Urocyon> not the dist-upgrade, no
[23:27] <soul> battlehands: type "gnome-open <file>"
[23:27] <Urocyon> dist-upgrading and rebooting, just in case.
[23:28] <EmuAlert> What the easiest way to copy a file's full location from Nautilus? Ctrl+C copies it in a way more appropriate for a browser than a terminal
[23:29] <ehw> cayne:  try ${HOSTNAME}_ldap_key ?
[23:30] <cayne> ehw: nope... it doesn't recognize the variable and instead prints out just _ldap_key
[23:33] <th0r> ehw: how about $HOSTNAME + '_ldap_key'
[23:33] <Jordan_U> EmuAlert: Just quote it in the terminal. cd '/this/path/that/I/copied/from/nautilus/with spaces in it/'
[23:33] <gerrin> trying to figure out how to configure VBA(visualboy advance) from source, can anyone help
[23:33] <ehw> cayne: is this is bash?
[23:33] <Urocyon> I think I found my postgresql problem.  I don't think it liked that I had /var/lib/postgresql as a mount point.
[23:34] <cayne> ehw: yeah, I just tried echoing $HOSTNAME from a test script and it apparently doesn't recognize the variable inside the script, but my system knows it
[23:34] <Urocyon> nope... that wasn't it afterall
[23:34] <gerrin> cant figure it out, never dont this befor
[23:34] <mirgonkj> #eArgentina
[23:34] <Urocyon> rats.   still no configuration love.
[23:34] <th0r> cayne: how about $HOSTNAME + '_ldap_key'
[23:35] <erik333> Hm, anyone know how to make xchat remember to not show join/leave msgs? would be helpful for this channel :) (or some alternative IRC client that is good)
[23:35] <cayne> th0r: no love. The script apparently doesn't know about $HOSTNAME
[23:35] <Urocyon> Got to be something peculiar to martin's script.  sorry for the bother.
[23:36] <ehw> cayne: You can set it explicitly with HOSTNAME=$(hostname -f) at the top of your script, then
[23:37] <gerrin> hey cayne, cant find that .tar.gz you told me to find
[23:38] <pooltable> hi ok help how do i set up my computer internet connection to go as fast as it can up and down thanks
[23:38] <cayne> ehw: still not picking up my hostname... I'm seriously confused now. I thought that a script would inherit the variables of the parent shell that executed it
[23:38] <testjohnboy> Hello All
[23:39] <ehw> It should, is it defined in the parent env? Echo $HOSTNAME working?
[23:39] <EmuAlert> Jordan_U: All of the spaces are replaced with %20, and the whole this is preceded by "file://". Is there another way to paste it? It has spaces and starts with / when I paste it here
[23:40] <cayne> ehw: yeah, I can echo my hostname of my FQDN with it, but the script doesn't catch it
[23:40] <cayne> can I post urls in here?
[23:40] <pooltable> yes
[23:40] <cayne> gerrin: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vba/VisualBoyAdvance-1.7.1-SDL-linux-glibc22.tar.gz?download
[23:40] <cayne> gerrin: that oughta be your source tarball
[23:41] <testjohnboyagain> hello
[23:41] <th0r> cayne: try $hostname....lowercase...in the script
[23:41] <Jordan_U> EmuAlert: That's not what is happening for me when pressing ctrl+L to see the location then ctrl+C to copy it, then pasting it into Gnome Terminal. Are you doing something different?
[23:42] <cayne> if I echo the hostname variable as you told me toset it inside the script it echos fine, but it doesn't seem to want to use it in another variable
[23:43] <cayne> th0r: still nothing... this is stupid... I have never had to fight this hard with one bloody variable
[23:44] <MasterLurker> hi guys, I need to take the screenshot of an entire window which extends beyond the screen (I need to scroll down). Is there an application like scrot to do that? (on Ubuntu 9.10)
[23:44] <ehw> cayne:  when you say inside another variable, can you give an example?
[23:44] <cayne> ehw: th0r: if you two are interested, here is my test script: http://pastebin.com/JtQCKCT1
[23:44] <Jordan_U> cayne: Could you pastebin the script?
[23:44] <cayne> Jordan_U: great minds think alike
[23:45] <[TK]D-Fender> "Fools seldom differ"
[23:45] <pooltable> internet connection to go as fast as it can up and down  how to ?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> cayne: You are using inconsistent capitalization of $HOSTNAME.
[23:45] <cayne> [TK]D-Fender: very nicely said
[23:46] <th0r> cayne: line3: SERVERNAME=$HOSTNAME + .... since HOSTNAME has been defined in line2
[23:46] <EmuAlert> Jordan_U: I'm just pressing Ctrl+C when the file is selected. The Ctrl+L thing works to get the location, but I still have to type in the file's name, which is a little annoying
[23:46] <th0r> cayne: and you might be causing yourself problems by trying to use HOSTNAME as a variable....use something like KEYNAME instead
[23:47] <cayne> th0r: wow... I can't believe my stubborness didn't let me come up with that one...
[23:47] <gerrin> anyone know how i can change from alsa to oss?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> EmuAlert: I see what you mean now. Not sure what you can do about that, but you might want to file a bug report against Gnome Terminal as it should probably be smart enough to recognize such pastes as file paths and handle them correctly.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> EmuAlert: Ahh, you can also just drag the file into the terminal window.
[23:49] <leg3nd> hey everyone, im trying to remotely monitor an enterprise network for host specific traffic and bandwidth usage, ideally using promisious mode without physical access to the gateway.
[23:49] <cayne> th0r: still nothing... I am getting frustrated pretty fast with this script... SERVERNAME=${KEYNAME} + '_ldap_key' isn't working either
[23:49] <EmuAlert> Jordan_U: Ah, thanks a bunch.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> EmuAlert: You're welcome.
[23:50] <th0r> cayne: yup....the change I suggested works in my vm at least
[23:50] <Guest31324> nick lwizardl
[23:51] <gerrin> im running 10.10 64bit build, would like to switch some programs from alsa to oss but dont know how, can anyone help?
[23:51] <ehw> cayne: http://pastebin.com/jWweW6ZS
[23:51] <pooltable> what is alsa and oss?
[23:52] <gerrin> the sound systems i think
[23:52] <Jordan_U> cayne: You don't need to rename your variable $KEYNAME, and it would be : SERVERNAME="${KEYNAME}_ldap_key"
[23:52] <th0r> cayne: if ehw's doesn't do the trick....I did it a little different and it seems to work
[23:53] <lee> I have a problem with xubuntu 10.4, I get a blank screen ("no signal detected" from the monitor) after the xubuntu splash screen. I have tried these kernel options: i915.modeset=0, xforcevesa, nomodeset, none make a difference. I have tried booting into recovery and doing failsafeX, but then I get "out of range" from the monitor. anybody have any suggestions what else to try?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> cayne: There is nothing special about the variable $HOSTNAME, this applies to any variable in bash.
[23:53] <cayne> ehw: worked like a charm. I guess I was trying to overcomplicate things
[23:53] <ehw> Great :)
[23:53] <cayne> Jordan_U: alrighty.
[23:54] <cayne> ehw: I appreciate the help
[23:54] <ehw> cayne: Very welcome, and good luck
[23:55] <cayne> ehw: so looking at your script I guess my issue was that I need the squiggly brackets to use a variable within another, and the entire thing needs to be double quoted?
[23:56] <ehw> cayne: The squiggles let bash pick out variable names,right
[23:57] <hasenj> is there a name for the process that manages the display of themes? my theme is messed up ..
[23:57] <hasenj> pretty much like here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1629628
[23:57] <ehw> If there's no white space ...
[23:58] <zen_monkey> hi... how can i check my battery level on command line?
[23:58] <cayne> ehw: okay, that makes sense. Nobody likes whitespace
[23:58] <juken> Is there a way to check to see if an mp3 file is DRM'd?
[23:59] <ehw> cayne: double quotes arund a syring mean vars should be substituted, single quotes mean to ignore them
[23:59] <chairmao> running 10.10 anybody know why i can't play youtube videos in full screen without them freezing all the time?
[23:59] <cayne> ehw: ahh... I wondered what the difference was between single and double
[23:59] <chairmao> tried updating flash still no joy
[23:59] <xangua> chairmao: flash sucks in linux, next question
[23:59] <chairmao> i've googled how to do it


[00:33] <big_t> MarkDude: whats happening?
[00:48] <MarkDude> Hey there
[00:48] <MarkDude> Just getting ready to go see a friends band
[00:48] <MarkDude> When will you be in Portland?
[01:14] <androidbruce> so who's going to LFNW?
[02:19] <valorie> o/
[02:19] <valorie> wouldn't miss it!
[02:19] <valorie> I'd better ping my son about it
[03:49] <androidbruce> valorie, i am trying to convince my wife to go
[03:57] <valorie> is she a geek?
[03:57] <valorie> my son tried to get me to go for years, but I resisted
[03:57] <valorie> now I'm sorry I didn't go with him
[03:58] <valorie> the hotel is really nice, the people are outstanding, and Bellingham is so beautiful
[03:59] <valorie> what's not to like?
[03:59] <valorie> even if she skips part of the fest itself, there is plenty to do
[04:00] <big_t> hello :)
[04:11] <valorie> hey big_t
[06:45] <big_t> any of you people play around with conky?
[19:48] <big_t> MarkDude: good all most afternoon.


[00:11] <manusheel> satellit_: Hi Thomas. Great work.
[00:15] <satellit_> thanks: you should try the maple syrup it is neat..but have to do a lot of installing to get it to work. Hope they finish it
[00:33] <manusheel> satellit_:Sure, Thomas. I'll install and study Maple Syrup. How did you find it?
[00:36] <satellit_> on blog http://planet.sugarlabs.org/  (it is referenced on web page )It is for RIT One on One project Caroline according to David
[00:37] <satellit_> Manusheel: you have to follow all steps I list or no activities in f3 ring.....
[00:37]  * satellit_ not easy install YET
[00:38] <satellit_> need ppa added....
[00:38] <satellit_> and updates
[00:39] <satellit_> manusheel I used a 250 GB external USB drive for install
[00:41] <lfaraone> dfarning: sorry I haven't had a chance to look at Moon, school's been keeping me down.
[00:43] <manusheel> satellit_: Thanks for sharing the information. Yes, it looks like an interesting installation process :-) Going through http://planet.sugarlabs.org
[00:46] <satellit_> manusheel: it is up on f1 neighborhood now
[00:50] <satellit_> Manusheel: lan_Daniher is person who blogged about maple-syrup he is on #ubuntu-sugarteam
[04:02] <USRMaverick-48f0> hello testing from USR Maveric
[11:19] <dfarning> manusheel, satellit_ maple_syrup being done for the maine one-to-one program.
[11:20] <dfarning> lfaraone, NP you had a busy summer:)
[11:20] <dfarning> satellit_, the pages looks great. thanks!
[11:50] <satellit_> dfarning: glad to help...will maple_sugar be completed to a later version so It is not necessary to do all that I did to get it running? I would like to obtain a copy....
[12:21] <dfarning> satellit_, I have not followed maple_s* very closely.  I think that it is based on USR.... so any work we do to improve sugar on ubuntu improves maple_s* and that is as far as I have looked.
[12:39] <satellit_> dfarning: had to add ppa to get it to run correctly: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Added_ppa
[15:28] <mukul> hi alsroot
[15:28] <alsroot> mukul: hi
[15:29] <mukul> alsroot, Can you provide me some pointers on the bug sl#2281
[15:32] <alsroot> mukul: did you manage to reproduce this issue?
[15:33] <mukul> alsroot, I am not able to reproduce the same on sugar emulator.
[15:34] <alsroot> mukul: in any case we can just start from traceback, try to figure out why ds_object could be None in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/datastore/datastore.py", line 355
[15:40] <alsroot> mukul: in fact, would be useful to try to figure out why all these trace backs happened :)
[15:43] <alsroot> mukul: you can also ask bug submitter if can reproduce this issue from clear start on all boxes, and better in case of just two boxes
[15:43] <alsroot> *if he can
[15:44] <alsroot> ..and try to reproduce it on your boxes
[16:41] <mukul> alsroot, can you also help me with sl bug #630
[16:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 630 in baz "default directory name contains unnecessary and outdated information" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630
[16:45] <alsroot> mukul: do you have a plan for this bug?
[16:48] <mukul> alsroot: To reproduce the bug I need to fill in some memory in the file system
[16:51] <alsroot> mukul: well it is not a bug, but new sugar behaviour
[16:52] <alsroot> mukul: you just need an idea what you are going to impelement instead of modal dialog
[17:08] <mukul> alsroot, I was thinking that instead of the modal dialog we can have a notification displayed as in Gmail which indicates the percentage filled/remaining once it crosses a minimum barrier say 95%.This can be an alert for the user. After it crosses 99% or so, then we can have a dialog box,asking the user to delete space. Can you provide me some inputs on how this could be implemented.
[17:13] <alsroot> mukul: you already has a code for modal dialog (current implementation), for sugar alert popups(like in Chat), use TimeoutAlert from alert.py in sugar-toolkit
[17:13] <alsroot> ..or another Alert classes (including custom) from alert.py
[17:34] <mukul> alsroot, and where must be a function for determining the memory size?
[17:36] <mukul> alsroot, which file should I look into?
[17:39] <alsroot> mukul: just grep where ModalAlert appears (there should be "if" code that checks current free space)
[17:40] <mukul> alsroot: Ok
[19:45] <manusheel> neeraj_gupta: Hi Neeraj.
[19:45] <manusheel> Around?
[19:50] <neeraj_gupta> manusheel sir, hi :)
[19:54] <manusheel> neeraj: Hi Neeraj.
[19:55] <manusheel> neeraj: Let us discuss gtkiconview and the method to arrive at a good conclusion on the control panel issue. Going through the link and the patch.
[19:55] <neeraj> manusheel sir, ok.
[19:56] <manusheel> neeraj: Let us discuss this in 15 mins.
[19:59] <dfarning> neeraj, ping
[20:02] <neeraj> dfarning: hi  :)
[20:02] <dfarning> neeraj, how was your time off?
[20:03] <neeraj> dfarning: it was quite good :)
[20:05] <manusheel> neeraj: The apport feature enhancement looks neat. I hope we get good feedback on it.
[20:12] <dfarning> neeraj, the first informal user testing of USR is starting to come in.  The big concern is the lack of browser.
[20:25] <neeraj> dfarning: ok. but we still don't have a proper fix to browse in ubuntu..
[20:27] <dfarning> neeraj, yes ^^ was just meant to be informative . Luke is going to contact mozilla by phone.
[20:27]  * neeraj is reading might reply a little late
[20:28] <neeraj> dfarning: Ok. Lets hope we get a positive and quick response.