[03:36] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, a sec, I think I know the package, possibly
[03:36] <Red-Bull> i just installed ubuntu.. and works fine.. but just a nasty thing.. i cant open website or connect via gaim.. but ping works
[03:36] <rabe> slavik: dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[03:36] <rabe>   when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[03:37] <Stormx2> how do I reset sound?
[03:37] <rabe> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:37] <echo> !xinerama
[03:37] <ubotu> I guess xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[03:37] <slavik> uninstall the ati driver we installed
[03:38] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, gnome-icon-theme is the default one, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-icon-theme will reinstall them. I guess we can start there
[03:38] <mauper> slavik: I quote : "this is working like a charm so far.. thank you so much :)" - so - seems like :)
[03:38] <XhyldazhK> aaah thanks!!!
[03:38] <tRSS> slavik: the command is working beautifully
[03:38] <slavik> oh, ok
[03:38] <slavik> perl is still better
[03:38] <tRSS> mauper: i will work on limiting the bandwidth/timing options
[03:38] <Red-Bull> maybe any1 can help me.. i just installed ubuntu out of the box.. works fine.. but i cant open websites via firefox.. dns works.. i can ping the website via terminal! but no go via firefox
[03:38] <mauper> slavik: yes, always use the bigger weapon ;) - cause it's cool ;)
[03:39] <suspect_> ok now i need help
[03:39] <tRSS> mauper: though it is a local lan website
[03:39] <nickrud> rabe, that error depends on the context, paste the whole error to pastebin
[03:39] <suspect_> just a reminder type of help
[03:39] <slavik> mauper: :P
[03:39] <mauper> tRSS: then don't bother :)
[03:39] <rabe> nickrud:ok, but what was the address?
[03:39] <suspect_> how do i use gksu -u windows?
[03:39] <nickrud> rabe, nm, I didn't read back far enough
[03:39] <suspect_> this is what i ahve to do
[03:39] <tRSS> slavik & mauper: may be it is time for me to learn to use the bigger weapons, such as perl :)
[03:39] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:39] <blindx> Red-Bull, have you tried using another web browser?
[03:39] <suspect_> how do i do that?
[03:40] <Red-Bull> blindx: gaim does not work either
[03:40] <suspect_> please someone tell me?
[03:40] <mauper> tRSS: never needed perl though ... but then again, I am quite lazy ;)
[03:40] <rabe> nickrud: nevermind, you can still help me since i did just that of the wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.24.8_drivers_in_Breezy_Badger
[03:40] <nickrud> rabe, dpkg-divert is obscure, and especially when it's fglrx which I've never used. sorry to have wasted your time
[03:40] <Red-Bull> tracepath via terminal also no go
[03:40] <blindx> Are you on IRC on that computer right now?
[03:40] <Red-Bull> no
[03:40] <mauper> tRSS: rumor has it, perl is almighty ;)
[03:40] <suspect_> so ca someone tell me what to do?
[03:40] <suspect_> can
[03:40] <blindx> And you said you can ping to a website, or you can ping to the router?
[03:40] <Red-Bull> the website
[03:40] <tRSS> mapuer: lmao, now that was ultimate :oP
[03:41] <blindx> Red-Bull, would you mind typing out what you get as a response?
[03:41] <slavik> someone call me?
[03:41] <blindx> just one line.
[03:41] <Red-Bull> Connection to blabla.com ....
[03:41] <Red-Bull> timout
[03:41] <suspect_> hello?
[03:41] <slavik> mauper: perl is the coding language of the gods
[03:41] <rabe> slavik: i can't uninstall the drivers
[03:41] <Red-Bull> same with gaim
[03:41] <blindx> lol Red-Bull if it time out's
[03:41] <slavik> hmm
[03:41] <blindx> that means it's not pinging :P
[03:41] <david_> Hola! just put ubuntu on my laptop and need help with libdvdcss2?? i found them at a repository and when i try to aply the packages i get a file not found message ;( help please
[03:41] <suspect_> i want o know what do i have to do on this instruction.
[03:41] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:41] <slavik> first, uninstall the driver we installed
[03:41] <rabe> salvik: i type: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx, i get an error code
[03:41] <blindx> Red-Bull, your connection is not set up properly. Is this a wired connection?
[03:41] <Red-Bull> no
[03:42] <Red-Bull> i can ping the website via terminal
[03:42] <blindx> What kind of card do you have?
[03:42] <suspect_> oh god
[03:42] <Red-Bull> 3com nic
[03:42] <blindx> Red-Bull, if it's telling you that it time out's
[03:42] <rabe> slavik: i type: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx, i get an error code
[03:42] <blindx> then no you can't
[03:42] <slavik> david_: you can't be helped, the file are simply not in the repo ...
[03:42] <Red-Bull> i can even log on ftp servers
[03:42] <suspect_> blind
[03:42] <Red-Bull> via terminal
[03:42] <suspect_> blindx
[03:42] <blindx> sup
[03:42] <slavik> rabe: how about the other packages?
[03:42] <suspect_> can YOu help me?
[03:42] <Red-Bull> ftp ftp.idsoftware.com works fine..
[03:42] <blindx> with?
[03:42] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:42] <david_> ahh thnk you any where ellse i could look??
[03:42] <suspect_> what do i ahve to do there?
[03:42] <suspect_> have*
[03:42] <echo> ok i think i got another stupid question
[03:42] <blindx> Red-Bull, can you actually transmit data?
[03:42] <echo> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[03:42] <rabe> slavik: how to uninstall that one?
[03:42] <blindx> try getting a file
[03:43] <echo> why does it say that instead of nvidia
[03:43] <Red-Bull> blindx: ya..
[03:43] <echo> under device
[03:43] <blindx> you can?!
[03:43] <Red-Bull> blindx: yes
[03:43] <echo> on my xorg
[03:43] <suspect_> ok no one wants to help me
[03:43] <blindx> Well that makes absolutely no sense, then
[03:43] <suspect_> = (
[03:43] <blindx> suspect
[03:43] <blindx> with what?
[03:43] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:43] <slavik> rabe: so you got all of them except for this one?
[03:43] <suspect_> that
[03:43] <Red-Bull> blindx: but i cant browse sites via firefox or connect to icq via gaim
[03:43] <slavik> rabe: pastbin the errors
[03:43] <suspect_> what do i have to do on that/
[03:43] <suspect_> ?
[03:43] <slavik> actually
[03:43] <blindx> I have no clue, suspect_
[03:43] <slavik> rabe: change the driver line in the config to vesa and restart the xserver
[03:43] <david_> i shall go deep into underworld in search of mythicall dvd libs
[03:43] <suspect_> aww man
[03:44] <slavik> that way the module won't get loaded
[03:44] <icebreak> how can i mass upload directories recursivly in sftp ?
[03:44] <rabe> slavik: ok will try
[03:44] <suspect_> does anyone have a clue on what to do on this step?
[03:44] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:44] <venin> ive installed alsa-oss with apt-get .. but the alsa-oss doesnt show in the mplayer-list. howcome?
[03:44] <blindx> Red-Bull, it makes no sense that you can't ping out, connect through firefox, or use gaim.
[03:44] <blindx> but that you can connect through ftp
[03:44] <Red-Bull> ya..
[03:44] <Red-Bull> i know.. suxx
[03:44] <suspect_> .....
[03:45] <suspect_> ok?
[03:45] <blindx> Red-Bull, what is your wireless interface's name?
[03:45] <suspect_> so know one knows what to do there?
[03:45] <suspect_> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user
[03:45] <Red-Bull> blindx: i am not using a wireless device
[03:45] <nickrud> suspect_, just what are you trying to do, your final goal?
[03:45] <blindx> oh, i thought you said it was.
[03:45] <blindx> sorry, my fault.
[03:45] <blindx> well, do you know the interface name?
[03:45] <suspect_> im trying to install wine and install ie6
[03:45] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering how do i get a deb file from the repos
[03:46] <suspect_> Internet Explorer 6.
[03:46] <jadaz87> jadaz87 not with apt-get i want the actual file
[03:46] <jadaz87> apt-get install*
[03:46] <Red-Bull> blindx: its a 3com 390-TX card
[03:46] <Red-Bull> works fine with windows and as i said.. i can PING websites via terminal!
[03:46] <suspect_> ok nickrud?
[03:46] <slavik> jadaz87: you can tell apt-get to only download it
[03:46] <slavik> I know synaptic can
[03:46] <blindx> Red-Bull, you told me it times out when you try to ping, therefore it's not actually pinging.
[03:46] <jadaz87> slavik oh goodie how do i do that? :-)
[03:47] <slavik> run synaptic?
[03:47] <Red-Bull> blindx: i told you its get a timeout via firefox..
[03:47] <david_> anyone got time to give me some tips on "intergrated" intell 802.11 g/b??
[03:47] <icebreak> how can i mass upload directories recursivly in sftp ?
[03:47] <slavik> system->administration->synaptic package manager
[03:47] <blindx> what kinda response do you get when you ping?
[03:47] <rabe> slavik: i use vesa now, how can i see if 3d acceleration is used?
[03:47] <Red-Bull> blindx: 16ms ping reply
[03:47] <jadaz87> david you want to install?
[03:47] <blindx> weird.
[03:47] <david_> yes!
[03:47] <slavik> rabe: glxinfo |grep direct
[03:47] <jadaz87> david or get it working rather
[03:47] <blindx> Red-Bull, do ifconfig from terminal and tell me what you get under eth0
[03:47] <jadaz87> !tell david_ about wireless
[03:47] <david_> yes
[03:47] <blindx> does it have an IP?
[03:48] <Red-Bull> yes
[03:48] <rabe> slavik: glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:48] <blindx> hm
[03:48] <nickrud> suspect, for internet explorer you need wine
[03:48] <Red-Bull> all correct.. gateway..dns..subnet.. all fine
[03:48] <blindx> nickrud, suspect left :P
[03:48] <blindx> Red-Bull, are you using static ip, or dhcp?
[03:48] <Red-Bull> static
[03:48] <blindx> try dhcp?
[03:48] <slavik> hmm, did you try following the wiki again to remove all the packages?
[03:48] <Red-Bull> no. why?
[03:48] <slavik> the drivers
[03:49] <blindx> what do you mean why?
[03:49] <blindx> to see if it works.
[03:49] <jadaz87> slavic where in synaptic? i am in there now
[03:49] <nickrud> blindx, eh.
[03:49] <Red-Bull> if i can ping websites unter terminal...
[03:49] <rabe> how to see now if 3d acceleration works?
[03:49] <Red-Bull> i think its all correct..
[03:49] <slavik> find the package and mark it for install
[03:49] <blindx> Red-Bull, If your internet connection works with you using DHCP, then we know it's not the system or the card, but your settings instead.
[03:49] <slavik> rabe: vesa is not accelarated
[03:49] <blindx> Then we eliminate two issues.
[03:50] <blindx> If you don't want me to help you, then I won't try to help you.
[03:50] <slavik> rabe: follow the wiki to uninstall the drivers
[03:50] <rabe> that's the problem i'm telling you, i get this error
[03:50] <slavik> pastebin it
[03:50] <Red-Bull> i have to reboot router etc. to enable dhcp.. dont want to
[03:51] <rabe> where to pastebin?
[03:51] <slavik> rabe: what card are you using?
[03:51] <blindx> what kinda router are you using, Red-Bull ?
[03:51] <slavik> !pastebin
[03:51] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:51] <Red-Bull> if i can do ping & ftp via terminal... nic is ok i thinkk
[03:51] <nickrud> !pastebin
[03:51] <rabe> ?
[03:51] <blindx> Red-Bull, lol fine. I'm done. Good luck.
[03:51] <jadaz87> slavik i do not want to install it i want to download the deb file lol
[03:51] <Veronica> oh, no clue
[03:51] <nickrud> rabe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is a pastebin
[03:51] <slavik> jadaz87: did you mark the package for install?
[03:52] <rabe> ok, nickrud
[03:52] <slavik> jadaz87: this is the part where you don't ask questions ...
[03:52] <jadaz87> slavik it is already installed
[03:52] <slavik> then it is in the cache
[03:52] <nickrud> rabe, you can drag the mouse (hold the left button & drag) across some text in a terminal, then hit the middle button on the mouse in the pastebin text box
[03:52] <slavik> hopefully
[03:52] <jadaz87> how do i copy the deb file from the cache?
[03:53] <slavik> cache is on your system
[03:53] <jadaz87> oh ok
[03:53] <nickrud> /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:53] <rabe> ok here the pastebin (got german ubuntu version, however): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12270
[03:54] <malavar> hey
[03:55] <nickrud> oh god, that one again. sorry rabe :) I'd try 1st: sudo apt-get -f install and try the uninstall again
[03:56] <rabe> you are familiar with that error?
[03:56] <nickrud> noonex, but I've seen variations on it
[03:56] <t1nl0tus> Hey, does anyone know how I increase the number of sound channels I have?
[03:56] <nickrud> rabe, ^^^
[03:56] <t1nl0tus> Currently, I can only have one program using my sound and it's getting quite annoying.
[03:56] <nickrud> !sound
[03:56] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:57] <slavik> I tink I know what it means
[03:57] <t1nl0tus> Thanks, nickrud
[03:57] <rabe> nickrud: still not working
[03:57] <PwcrLinux> Hi there
[03:57] <david_> Anyone know how i could figure out what packages i need to drive an intergrated 802.11b/g. on a mobile intell(R) 82915GMS/910GML chipset?
[03:57] <dibblego> how do I tell my system to check for OS updates?
[03:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> t1nl0tus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[03:57] <PwcrLinux> Anyone, I plugged my flash drive and autodetected, then I worked on something and after it's done, I pulled my flash driver out of USB hub, so I checked dmesg, it's all says Dead I/O rejecting.. I guess my fault?
[03:58] <slavik> dibblego: apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[03:58] <nickrud> rabe, then I'd try dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq <package>
[03:58] <rabe> i give up with that ATI crap, i will move to dapper anyway and try to kick that card for a nvidia
[03:58] <slavik> PwcrLinux: it didn't write to the drive sounds like
[03:58] <Xaero_Vincent> rabe... ATI just released new drivers
[03:58] <Xaero_Vincent> for Linux
[03:59] <Xaero_Vincent> it supports the x1000 series now
[03:59] <Xaero_Vincent> :D
[03:59] <slavik> Xaero_Vincent: rabe is having trouble with dpkg-diversion
[03:59] <rabe> nickrud, still not working
[03:59] <slavik> seems like the symlink for the file was not what it expected
[04:00] <slavik> rabe, see if you have a file in /usr/share/fglrx/diversions name libGL.so.1.2
[04:00] <echo> ok another retarted question... the card im trying to do dual screen with is pci... does that matter???
[04:00] <echo> ty
[04:00] <slavik> echo: it shouldn't
[04:00] <echo> damnit
[04:00] <echo> oh well
[04:00] <echo> ty
[04:00] <nickrud> rabe, like I said a while back, dpkg-divert is not my forte. Those were the two arrows in my quiver at the moment. Sorry
[04:01] <slavik> nickrud: divert doesn't like the diversions it sees
[04:01] <PwcrLinux> slavik: Yea, after i pulled USB flash drive from hub box, desktop disappearing a icon. checked on my dmesg. it;s appeared errors..  So next time should I unmounting to prevent any error before pull USB flash drive out of hub box.
[04:01] <slavik> rabe, see if you have a file in /usr/share/fglrx/diversions name libGL.so.1.2
[04:01] <slavik> PwcrLinux: yes
[04:01] <sonicjam> hey guys
[04:02] <nickrud> slavik, I like to think I understand debian package management, but diversions, not. I'll be watching & learning :)
[04:02] <PwcrLinux> slavik: ah okay i got it
[04:02] <Cheerios> hey all
[04:02] <sonicjam> i'm a noob in linux and i want to know how to install fire fox <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:02] <jadaz87> nickrud if i do       sudo apt-get -d install wifi-radar what whould that do?
[04:02] <jadaz87> !ff1,5
[04:02] <jadaz87> !ff1.5
[04:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:02] <Cheerios> I'm having trouble with openLDAP (slapd) configuration... are there any guru's in the house?
[04:02] <sonicjam> i did
[04:02] <jadaz87> lol
[04:02] <terry> hi
[04:02] <echo> does anyone have 2 monitors running off of an nvidia 5200
[04:02] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[04:02] <echo> ???
[04:02] <sonicjam> but it doesn't work correctly
[04:02] <rabe> slavik: seems like i don't have fglrx anymore
[04:03] <terry> I am new in it ...
[04:03] <nickrud> jadaz87, just download the package to /var/cache/apt/archives, ready for a apt-get install wifi-radar (without another download)
[04:03] <dibblego> echo: almost, NVIDIA PCX5300
[04:03] <echo> can i see it
[04:03] <echo> noit it
[04:03] <dibblego> echo: and it is PCI
[04:03] <terry> some body can help me
[04:03] <echo> nice
[04:03] <dibblego> echo: see what?
[04:03] <echo> \can you send me a copy of your xorg.conf file
[04:03] <dibblego> ok, email?
[04:03] <Veronica> mauper: how can i change the settings
[04:03] <terry> I get ubuntu but I dont get emacs...
[04:03] <echo><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:04] <sonicjam> i have an nVidia geForce XFX 5200 256mb agp
[04:04] <nickrud> jadaz87, I used to do that every night when I had dialup only
[04:04] <PwcrLinux> brb
[04:04] <terry> how I can install emacs...
[04:04] <mauper> Veronica: erm, I beg your pardon ?
[04:04] <echo> yeah
[04:04] <nickrud> terry, install emacs21
[04:04] <tRSS> slavik / mauper: quick question: i want to disable and then enable eth0 of a remote machine. to disable and enable it, i would use ifconfig eth0 down (and up) but, once eth0 goes down, i will also lose connection. how can I disable/enable eth0, such that i am not disconnected. or even if I am disconnected, eth0 is back up
[04:04] <echo> yo can you send a copy of your xorg.conf file to me too
[04:04] <sonicjam> brb
[04:04] <echo><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:04] <MachineScrew> terry sudo apt-get install emacs21
[04:04] <MachineScrew> in a terminal
[04:04] <dibblego> sent
[04:05] <mauper> tRSS: write a script ?
[04:05] <mauper> tRSS: but no matter what - you will lose the connection anyway
[04:05] <terry> mmm but where it is this archive...??
[04:05] <id`> cant i search with apt get?
[04:05] <id`> can*
[04:05] <tRSS> mapuer: i thought, "ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up" would do the job!?
[04:05] <nickrud> tRSS, ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[04:05] <echo> thanks
[04:05] <echo> brb
[04:05] <sissi> why I do I not have vlc win32codecs and gdesklets with ubuntu 5.10 ?
[04:05] <terry> ooo ok I will try
[04:06] <terry> thanks machinescrew
[04:06] <ubuntu> anyone speak spanish?
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: you didn't install them?
[04:06] <MachineScrew> np terry
[04:06] <terry> I speak spanish
[04:06] <cafuego> !es
[04:06] <mauper> tRSS: not sure about that ... the first command kills the connection so that the second gets never executed ... not sure though
[04:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:06] <slavik> !tell ubuntu about es
[04:06] <MYP> !sp
[04:06] <ubotu> MYP: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:06] <facugaich> terry
[04:06] <sissi> slavik, no avalable when I apt-get search
[04:06] <mauper> tRSS: look for "nohup"
[04:06] <terry> de donde eres ubuntu
[04:06] <MYP> !es
[04:06] <facugaich> terry, #ubuntu-es
[04:06] <ubuntu> holaa terry de chile
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: I know gdesklets are there
[04:06] <facugaich> ah, perdon
[04:06] <sissi> slavik, I use the default sources.list
[04:06] <cafuego> Now look what you'v done!
[04:06] <tRSS> mauper: will do. nickrud: let me check it out
[04:06] <terry> yo soy de mexico
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: use synaptic ...
[04:06] <slavik> sissi: that's why
[04:06] <echo> thank you tony i got it
[04:07] <sissi> slavik, I try with synaptic
[04:07] <facugaich> ubuntu, te podemos ayudar en #ubuntu-es
[04:07] <ubuntu> que bien, terry que nivel de usuario de ubuntu eres
[04:07] <terry> ubuntu tu sabes como puedo installar el emacs en mi computadora
[04:07] <terry> super usuario
[04:07] <cafuego> ubuntu:/terry: Kunnen jullie misschien naar #ubuntu-es gaan, dit is erg vervelend hier.
[04:07] <terry> jajaja es mi primera vez en la red y he manejado muy poco el linux y tu??
[04:07] <id`> vind ik ook dat slappe geluk, begrijpt niemand van
[04:07] <ubuntu> debian algo s
[04:07] <id`> terry, ubuntu: see how anoying?
[04:07] <sissi> slavik, I will pastbin my sources.list would you mind to tell me what's wrong ?
[04:08] <id`> gelul, even*
[04:08] <nickrud> where's my universal translator, it should be run by ubotu
[04:08] <ubuntu> pero me tiene algo mal la instalacin de ubunto jajaja tengo problemas con el debootstrap
[04:08] <facugaich> terry, ubuntu, vallan a #ubuntu-es
[04:08] <cafuego> !tell ubuntu -about es
[04:08] <terry> I know
[04:08] <terry> but I am novat person in it
[04:08] <sonicjam> back
[04:08] <ubuntu> nos estan echando jaja
[04:08] <cafuego> ubuntu: wat?
[04:08] <terry> jajajaj en serio
[04:08] <ubuntu> ok, cya
[04:08] <slavik> !tell sissi about repos
[04:08] <terry> porque???
[04:09] <sissi> slavik, http://pastebin.com/660774
[04:09] <terry> tienes msn??
[04:09] <sissi> slavik, ok thx I'll read it
[04:09] <sonicjam> but seriously i need to install firefox <IP_ADDRESS> i tried that website and i get error in the terminal
[04:10] <defendguin__> how come i cant install the openoffice quickstart applet without unstalling openiffice.org-gnome
[04:10] <ubuntu><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:10] <nickrud> defendguin__, good question, I was wondering about that one myself (dapper?)
[04:11] <Tarantulafudge> can anyone help me get my jaz drive to work
[04:11] <defendguin__> nickrud: yes dapper.  dispite my brand new centrino laptop it doesnt doesnt open nearly fast enough
[04:11] <sonicjam> can any one help me
[04:12] <cafuego> slavik: nope
[04:12] <defendguin__> sonicjam: scrap the jazzdrive and get a usb drive
[04:12] <cafuego> defendguin__: I believe the qstart applet is an OOo 1.x thing.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !+anyone
[04:12] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:12] <nickrud> defendguin__, I keep a spreadsheet open all the time, it speeds up the rest
[04:12] <cafuego> defendguin__: OOo-gnome is OOo2.
[04:12] <tRSS> i was assuming that when one command was followed by another command, with && in between would execute the first command and then the second command. it didn't work in my case though (i.e. ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up)
[04:12] <jedx23> Hey is there anyway to remove the password thingy that keeps asking for
[04:12] <jedx23> my password
[04:12] <slavik> jedx23: no
[04:12] <slavik> jedx23: ubunt is not windows
[04:13] <defendguin__> cafuego: is there a way to increase launching speed?
[04:13] <jedx23> lol
[04:13] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[04:13] <cafuego> defendguin__: Apart from a faster cpu? ;-)
[04:13] <jedx23> It ask for it on everything
[04:13] <slavik> jedx23: if you want to install everything that wants to get installed, use windows and wonder why your system is slow
[04:13] <slavik> jedx23: that is the point
[04:13] <cafuego> !automatix
[04:13] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:13] <defendguin__> cafuego: this is about as fast a laptop as i want to get
[04:13] <jedx23> I hate windows
[04:13] <slavik> jedx23: otherwise the system might be changed without your knowledge
[04:13] <jedx23> I been useing linux for a few months now
[04:13] <PwcrLinux> slavik: It's work good, I tested plugged in and then unmounting, checked on dmesg  no errors whew!
[04:13] <jedx23> I finaly had time to buy a nic card
[04:14] <cafuego> defendguin__: The first run of Ooo also takes a while on my AMD64. Subsequent runs *are* fast, though.
[04:14] <jedx23> usb wont work
[04:14] <jedx23> it don't except dsl modems on it
[04:14] <sonicjam> um i'm emulating linux
[04:14] <sonicjam> with vmware
[04:14] <cafuego> defendguin__: Check the launchpad bug reports; see if there's a feature request to have qstarter put back (and file one if not..)
[04:14] <defendguin__> cafuego: thats why the quick start applet was so important
[04:14] <PwcrLinux> jedx23: which USB device that not working?
[04:15] <defendguin__> it makes it like it already been open
[04:15] <jedx23> the motherboard usb
[04:15] <jedx23> i allready looked it up
[04:15] <jedx23> ubuntu wont work with speedstreamer dsl
[04:15] <sonicjam> so no one is going to help me :/
[04:15] <blindx> lol lycade. i was about to ask for you :P
[04:15] <Veronica> Right,
[04:15] <PwcrLinux> jedx23: did you check on dmesg in the terminal box?
[04:15] <Lycade> Thanks. :p
[04:15] <jedx23> anyway i got another question
[04:15] <Lycade> I doubt theres any help for me though. :(
[04:16] <mwhite> hello. New Ubuntu user here..Nice to meet everyone
[04:16] <blindx> Lycade: never hurts to try
[04:16] <blindx> hey mwhite
[04:16] <Lycade> I have a friend elsewhere trying to help me. xD
[04:16] <jedx23> is there any application out there i can keep my self and my pc safe from viruses
[04:16] <blindx> yes. linux :P
[04:16] <sonicjam> lol
[04:16] <mwhite> if someone gets a few minutes, can you help me with a little problem?
[04:16] <nickrud> jedx23, there isn't much call for an antivirus for linux
[04:16] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[04:17] <volley> holy jeez my dl has said time remaining: 5 seconds for like the last 10 minutes 0.o
[04:17] <jedx23> ok thanks
[04:17] <terry> I couldnt install the emacs I put this command but write this couldnt find this archive....
[04:17] <nickrud> Veronica, if ompauld doesn't answer, the answer is 'quite probably'
[04:17] <sonicjam> you know linux does have some virus but not as many as windows
[04:17] <Veronica> slavik it is already installed
[04:17] <nickrud> mwhite, ask away, maybe someone has an answer
[04:17] <volley> and what will that virus do without root privalige
[04:17] <slavik> Veronica: what is?
[04:17] <Veronica> nickrud: the rogue .deb uninstalled the icons
[04:17] <terry> sudo apt-get install emacs21
[04:18] <slavik> volley: nothing dangerous?
[04:18] <mwhite> does anyone know how I can access the Java Console?
[04:18] <Veronica> ???
[04:18] <volley> yaknow
[04:18] <jedx23> is there any anonymous ip thingy i can use cause i got banned from he aint the owner he just doe's for fun and i'm getting sick of it
[04:18] <slavik> Veronica: huh?
[04:18] <jedx23> irc
[04:18] <Xaero_Vincent> volley destroy the home directory... blah... just backup it and your good
[04:18] <Veronica> :/
[04:18] <jedx23> brb
[04:18] <nickrud> Veronica, ouch
[04:19] <blazemonger> anyone here use jack/rosegarden?
[04:19] <Xaero_Vincent> Ubuntu is pretty much locked down to make any virus writers ballz ache.
[04:19] <blazemonger> i'm trying to figure out how to get jack to work properly..
[04:19] <volley> oh ya Im just saying that even if linux does have a vis or 2 circulating it is nowhere as bad as windows
[04:19] <sonicjam> i want firefox <IP_ADDRESS> installed in my linux but when i type in the command i get an error can any one help me
[04:19] <cafuego> defendguin__: Tools > Options > Memory > [ ]  Load at system startup
[04:19] <slavik> .me is not following what is goin on
[04:19] <nickrud> Veronica, as I recall, gnome-icon-theme has the default icon theme, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-icon-theme
[04:19] <Veronica> tRSS: did thank you so much :)" - seems like :)
[04:20] <blazemonger> ubuntu is a convenient distro...even my friend that doesnt even know much about computers even likes linux
[04:20] <defendguin__> ahhhh
[04:20] <cafuego> defendguin__: ... may or may not work.
[04:20] <nickrud> ahhh, thanks cafuego it's something to check out
[04:20] <defendguin__> ill try it out
[04:20] <Xaero_Vincent> yea EasyUbuntu and Automatix makes Ubuntu among the best... right along with SUSE and YaST.
[04:20] <defendguin__> that applet looks ugly as hell anyway
[04:20] <nickrud> rflol
[04:21] <terry> some body speak spanish....???
[04:21] <tRSS> Veronica: I am sort of lost. You are thanking me for.....? :)
[04:21] <nickrud> !es
[04:21] <Veronica> it should ask your password
[04:21] <volley> how many kb in a mb?
[04:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:21] <cafuego> ticking that box runs the OOO2 quickstarter in the panel.
[04:21] <sonicjam> is everyone ignoring me :/
[04:21] <mwhite> does Ubuntu have an easy way to access the Java Console?
[04:21] <cafuego> volley: Kb or KB (or KiB)
[04:21] <Veronica> moonwatcher, can you paste the IPv6 IP address line from ifconfig?
[04:21] <volley> KB
[04:22] <volley> in a MB
[04:22] <cafuego> Well, 1024 in real life. 1000 in marketing departments ;-)
[04:22] <volley> hmm
[04:22] <jramsey> .
[04:22] <terry> ubotu eres tu de chil???
[04:22] <terry> chile??
[04:22] <jinho326> Hi I just installed ubuntu and when it loads my screen is all screwed up- all I see is a white and black cross hatch on the screen, But I do see my mouse as well. I have an ATI radeon 9200. Is there any way to fix this from Bash by starting in recovery mode?
[04:22] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, terry
[04:23] <terry> gracias
[04:23] <cafuego> terry: ubotu is a robot, written in perl (and runs in Australia)
[04:23] <mwhite> so this isn't a support chat room???
[04:23] <cafuego> mwhite: 't is.
[04:23] <jinho326> anyone....?
[04:23] <cafuego> mwhite: Were you after a terminal and the command 'java' ?
[04:23] <Veronica> !tell david_ about wireless
[04:24] <tRSS> jinho326: gimme just a sec., i will try and help you
[04:24] <wil_> mwhite-firefox-tools-javascript
[04:24] <blazemonger> anyone know how to build a low latency kernel in ubuntu
[04:24] <mwhite> I'm trying to install some software from CD. and...
 thank you
[04:24] <jramsey> blazemonger, define low latency
[04:24] <Lycade> Whats a good website for learning simple commands for linux?
[04:24] <mwhite> when I type setup.bin it shows alot of ..... then says...
[04:24] <cafuego> blazemonger: the low latency (preemption) stuff is built-in (and enabled)
[04:24] <volley> 2645 of 176.4MB at 312.38 KB/s    Does that e any sence
[04:24] <mwhite> Starting InstallShield Wizard....
[04:24] <mwhite> then it goes back to the command line prompt
[04:24] <volley> does that make any sence
[04:24] <nickrud> mwhite, what app are you trying to install, and from what cd, and ew, installshield :)
[04:25] <facugaich> volley, that's measured in bytes
[04:25] <cafuego> mwhite: How is that Linux-related?
[04:25] <mwhite> I'm trying to install Rational Web Developer for Linux
[04:25] <dibblego> "sense" - there is no such word as "sence" - yes it makes sense
[04:25] <tRSS> jinho326: sorry i have to jet... you have to edit a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf . I am sorry, but this is kind of an emergency.
[04:25] <cafuego> mwhite: Does it require java (or a specific version thereof?)
 thanks anyways
[04:26] <mwhite> It requires java 1.4+
[04:26] <volley> well its been saying that the dl will be done in 5 seconds for like the last 10 mins
[04:26] <jinho326> Hi I just installed ubuntu and when it loads my screen is all screwed up- all I see is a white and black cross hatch on the screen, But I do see my mouse as well. I have an ATI radeon 9200. Is there any way to fix this from Bash by starting in recovery mode?
[04:26] <cafuego> mwhite: Did you install one
[04:26] <mwhite> I want to see the Java Console to see if it has any errors but I can't find it
[04:26] <nickrud> jinho326, try this: ctl-alt-f1, that should give you a terminal to log into. Once you've logged in, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <sonicjam> :(
[04:27] <mwhite> Java is already installed..I can do java -version and get 1.4.2
[04:27] <jramsey> Lycade, try http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
 can this be done by starting in recovery mode?
[04:27] <Lycade> Thank you, jramsey. ^^
[04:27] <nickrud> jinho326, yes, but its not necessary to go into recovery mode
[04:27] <cafuego> mwhite: Is there a Java Console in System -> Preferences or System > Admin ?
 is there anything else I need to do after typing that in?
[04:28] <mwhite> nope
[04:28] <blindx> building from source: configure, make, make install ...right?
[04:28] <nickrud> jinho326, there will be a bunch of questions, most of which you will just hit enter on.
[04:28] <dibblego> mwhite: the Java Console will be specific to your browser plugin
[04:28] <mwhite> so the default Java that came with Ubuntu isn't what I need?
 thank you nickrud, I'll give it a shot :-)
[04:29] <cafuego> mwhite: sunning setup.bin doesn'pront any info/errors to the terminal you run it from?
[04:29] <mwhite> no that is what is driving me crazy..no errors
[04:29] <dibblego> mwhite: which version of Java did you install exactly, and how did you install it?
[04:29] <sonicjam> i need help
[04:29] <nickrud> jinho326, it will probably just get you back to where you are, but first steps are first steps
[04:29] <sonicjam> i'm new to linux
[04:29] <volley> ummm
[04:30] <nickrud> sonicjam, welcome then. Any particular problems
[04:30] <mwhite> I didn't download Java, it was already installed with Ubuntu
[04:30] <dibblego> mwhite: what makes you think you even have a Java Console then? did you install a browser plugin?
[04:30] <gmmech> sound card/driver issure driving me nuts here
[04:31] <mwhite> I assummed I have a Java Console because Java was installed
[04:31] <gmmech> I think I'm on the right track but I've got to be missing something
[04:31] <sonicjam> yes i'm trying to install firefox <IP_ADDRESS> i went to the website of how to install it but i get an error in the ternimal
[04:31] <dibblego> a Java Console is what is used for web browser plugins
[04:31] <gmmech> lol I just used automatix
[04:32] <mwhite> hmm
[04:32] <blindx> What to do after "make install" when building?
[04:32] <mwhite> now I'm really lost..hehe
[04:32] <nickrud> sonicjam, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion that page
[04:32] <cafuego> blindx: realise your mistake
[04:32] <blindx> oh, right
[04:32] <blindx> F*!@
[04:32] <blindx>  :P
[04:32] <nickrud> gmmech, you lucky dog, it worked for you
[04:32] <sonicjam> nickrud: that the page i went but it doesn't find the tar.gz file
[04:33] <gmmech> the one thing that has
[04:33] <gmmech> lol
[04:33] <blindx> is it installed after make install ?
[04:33] <mwhite> I just went to java.com and verified my plugin and I don't have it :(
[04:33] <blindx> I'm new :P
[04:33] <nickrud> sonicjam, what do you mean by ' it doesn't find the tar.gz file'
[04:33] <facugaich> what's this red line that appears once in a while in xchat?
[04:33] <blindx> facugaich, when someone says your name?
[04:33] <facugaich> no
[04:33] <blindx> oh :P
[04:33] <sonicjam> nickrud: hold on i'll show you what i get
[04:34] <nickrud> facugaich, it's a marker of when you switched away from xchat then came back to it
[04:34] <facugaich> oh, thanks
[04:35] <mwhite> since I have java installed (java -version = 1.4.2) can I point firefox to use that?
[04:35] <gmmech> anyone any good at installing alsa soundcard drivers????
[04:35] <crimsun> gmmech: what's the issue?
[04:35] <nickrud> mwhite, sudo update-alternatives --config java , select the blackdown/1.4 version, after that firefox should see your java
[04:36] <gmmech> can't get soundcard reconnzed
[04:36] <mwhite> nick.. I do that in command line?
[04:36] <gmmech> driving me nuts
[04:36] <gmmech> problem is I'm no go at linux
[04:36] <gmmech> lol
[04:37] <gmmech> just at searching
[04:37] <crimsun> gmmech: new hardware?
[04:37] <prospero2005> I'm thinking about doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper for xgl. Any thoughts?
[04:37] <gmmech> hell no
[04:37] <blazemonger> question:why is it i get better sound in linux than i do in windows xp?
[04:37] <nickrud> prospero2005, xgl is not a good enough reason to upgrade
[04:37] <pepsi^^> had somebody used ebuntu ?
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> prospero2005: Sure.. dapper is fairly stable.
[04:37] <crimsun> gmmech: old? what sound hardware is it?
[04:38] <sonicjam> nickrud this is what i get tar: firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:38] <sonicjam> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:38] <sonicjam> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:38] <sonicjam> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[04:38] <gmmech> its a toshiba tecra8000 with yamaha opl3sa2
[04:38] <Hobbsee> !+paste
[04:38] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:38] <prospero2005> nickrud I have a dual-head setup. Think xgl will work with it?
[04:38] <mwhite> ok nick.. I did it..I don't have a blackdown/1.4 listed
[04:38] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: cd into the directory you downloaded it first...
[04:38] <crimsun> gmmech: does ``sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2'' work?
[04:38] <mwhite> 1. /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[04:38] <gmmech> nope
[04:39] <crimsun> gmmech: is /proc/bus/pnp mounted?
[04:39] <mwhite> *+ 2. /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[04:39] <nickrud> sonic2, that means you are not in the directory where you downloaded the tar.gz file
[04:39] <gmmech> hmmmmmm
[04:39] <nickrud> prospero2005, I really have no idea. When I realized that the window manager for xgl was crippled, I gave it up.
[04:39] <sonicjam> hobbsee i'm new in linux and that mean?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !tell sonicjam about cli
[04:40] <prospero2005> nickrud crippled?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: where did you download the file to?
[04:40] <nickrud> sonicjam, sorry, ^^^ look up
[04:40] <gmmech> I'm going to say no
[04:40] <mwhite> I will download the latest java and see if that works
[04:40] <sonicjam> desktop
[04:41] <crimsun> gmmech: pastebin ``pnpdump -v''
[04:41] <echo> is there anyone else using a geforce fx 5200 pci video card and using 2 monitors>???
[04:41] <nickrud> prospero2005, it's only a proof of concept, there's a lot of things that a window manager should handle, like shortcuts, etc that this iteration does not have
[04:41] <gmmech> from what I read I added pnp=0 to the config file because ist an ISa cars
[04:41] <jramsey> anyone familiar with the book (and maybe the examples) Linux Device Drivers ??
[04:42] <crimsun> gmmech: you'll need to add isapnp=0 is your PnPBIOS is overridden, yes
[04:42] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: then do a cd Desktop, then try the first command again...
[04:42] <crimsun> gmmech: s/is your/if your/
[04:42] <sonicjam> ok
[04:42] <gmmech> good question I looked for a pnp setting in the bios but didnt see one
[04:43] <crimsun> gmmech: it's also called "easy boot" or "quick boot" or anything along those lines
[04:43] <crimsun> gmmech: did you pastebin the info I asked for?
[04:44] <sonicjam> so hobbsee i type in -cd /desktop right
[04:45] <gmmech> real stupid ? do I just "pnpdump in a term window?
[04:45] <dark_fibre> hi. i've gparted a 40GB drive to ext3. apparently 700mb is being used by the filesystem? reiserfs seems to take only 80mb - wouldn't that always be the better option then?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: type "cd Desktop" and hit enter
[04:45] <crimsun> gmmech: yes.
[04:45] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering how can i shutoff services on the livecd while it is extracted on my hard drive i can customize what runs after i install ubuntu with sysv-rc-conf but i was wondering what do i do to conf the livecd so that they are already disabled i am following the livecdcustom wiki
[04:45] <mwhite> Ubuntu does not have rpm?
[04:45] <jinho> does anyone know how to go about installing a rpm?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !+rpm
[04:46] <ubotu> rpm is, like, totally, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[04:46] <gmmech> I get command not found???????
[04:46] <crimsun> gmmech: how about ``lspnp -v'' ?
[04:46] <jadaz87> mwhite no ubuntu is debian based so it uses deb files
[04:46] <mwhite> oh ok.. thanks
[04:46] <gmmech> lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[04:46] <jadaz87> !tell mwhite about alien
[04:46] <jinho> for Enlightenment, If I want to install it, would I use the Linux i386 Binary RPM or the Debian GNU/Linux DEB stuff?
[04:47] <mwhite> I'm sorry about all the questions. I'm new to the Linux world :)
[04:47] <crimsun> gmmech: what specific computer (make & model) is this?
[04:48] <gmmech> toshiba tecra 8000 pII 366
[04:48] <nickrud> jinho, debian debs, definitely
[04:48] <nickrud> jinho, erm, debs, ubuntu debs I mean
[04:48] <sonicjam> Hobbsee: i'll type this in sudo tar -Cd desktop -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[04:48] <jinho> nickrud good to see you again
[04:48] <wil_> mwhite-to install java you should use synaptic package manager --go to system -administration then synaptic
[04:48] <gmmech> I can paste you the dmesg
[04:49] <Hobbsee> ah yeah, that might work...
[04:49] <nickrud> jinho, likewise, I'm sure :)
[04:49] <jramsey> is there an irc channel for kernel device driver development?
[04:49] <jinho> nickrud: after rebooting the screen cleared up again
[04:50] <chirag> what debian package is the file stdio.h located in?
[04:50] <jinho> nickrud: now....how would I go about installing the DEB package?
[04:50] <sonicjam> Hobbsee i got this tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options
[04:50] <sonicjam> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[04:50] <chirag> when I try to compile my kernel, it can't find stdio.h
[04:50] <crimsun> jramsey: irc.oftc.net, #kernelnewbies
[04:50] <jinho> nickrud: in advance, I really appreciate all the help you're giving/ have given
[04:50] <mwhite> should I use the Java provide by sun, or the one listed in Synaptic?
[04:51] <mwhite> I already hava java-common installed
[04:51] <nickrud> jinho, for enlightenment? I'm not sure where you can get them, although I know they exist. gnomefreak had a working e17, I'd look for his advice
[04:51] <chirag> mwhite: I'd use the one in Synaptic
[04:51] <jinho> nickrud: I have the DEB
[04:51] <wil_> mwhite I could only get the synaptic one to run
[04:51] <jinho> nickrud: but I dont know how to use it...
[04:51] <blazemonger> ouch
[04:51] <nickrud> jinho, all in one directory, all by themselves?
[04:51] <agar> hey, has anyone come across sound issues?? my new installation of ubuntu has dete?cted the sound card but does not play any
[04:51] <blazemonger> i was running theme and gnome freaked out ehehehe
[04:51] <mwhite> and you have only java-common, java-gcj-compat installed?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> !tell agar about sound
[04:52] <blazemonger> means i need to do some debugging
[04:52] <jinho> nickrud: The file sitting on my desktop says: enlightenment_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[04:52] <cafuego> nickrud: I wonder if he runs Duke Nukem Forever on his e17 ;-)
[04:52] <jinho> nickrud: I'm not sure whether that is one file or a bunch of them
[04:52] <nickrud> cafuego, you card :)
[04:52] <nickrud> jinho, you have that in ubuntu, no deb's needed :)
[04:52] <jinho> nickrud: lol really?
[04:52] <wil_> mwhite it is blackdown java and is working well
[04:53] <nickrud> jinho, sudo apt-get install enlightenment (it's the old version)
[04:53] <agar> thanks hobbsee
[04:53] <jinho> nickrud: would this be 0.16?
[04:53] <agar> shall have a look and see what happens
[04:53] <jinho> nickrud: either way awesome
[04:53] <jinho> nickrud: thanks!
[04:53] <nickrud> jinho, .16, yes, not .16.9999
[04:54] <blazemonger> where do i view the gnome system log
[04:54] <mwhite> hmm..under All in Synaptic I do not see blackdown Java
[04:54] <nickrud> jinho, np, enlightenment 16 was my very first window manager, it had a lot to do with my sticking with linux. Sliding desktops, yum!
[04:54] <jinho> nickrud: ...would you happen to know where to find it?
[04:54] <jinho> nickrud: same with me, its the only reason I've been trying to run linux
[04:54] <blindx> Anyone ever notice how creepingly similar comparing monitor size is to comparing penis size?
[04:54] <nickrud> jinho, no, not the new one. gnomefreak is usually around about 12 hours from now
[04:55] <jinho> nickrud: he would know?
[04:55] <jadaz87> 	hello everyone i was wondering how can i shutoff services on the livecd while it is extracted on my hard drive i can customize what runs after i install ubuntu with sysv-rc-conf but i was wondering what do i do to conf the livecd so that they are already disabled i am following the livecdcustom wiki
[04:55] <crimsun> gmmech: there's nothing in your bios for PnP?
[04:55] <nickrud> jinho, yes, he bragged. Call him on it :)
[04:55] <sonicjam> Hobbsee: did you saw the last message i sent
[04:55] <jinho> nickrud: lol okay
[04:55] <jinho> nickrud: thanks!
[04:55] <gmmech> like I said it's OLD
[04:55] <gmmech> lol
[04:55] <Hobbsee> blindx: that's not necessary in a support channel, thanks
[04:56] <Hobbsee> sonicjam: see !cli, and man tar - i'm not very good with tar files...
[04:56] <blindx> then it's not necessary to address it again -.-
[04:57] <sonicjam> ok
[04:57] <sonicjam> operating linux is harder than i tought
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Life is harder then I thought.
[04:57] <nickrud> and then you die.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> and hopefully you dont get in trouble afterwards for all the warez.
[04:58] <jadaz87> does anyone know the answer to my question? i asked in #ubuntu-devel and they told me to come here
[04:58] <nickrud> sonic2, have some fun, learn something, make someone like you.
[04:58] <crimsun> gmmech: try: ``sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2 isapnp=0 dma1=1 dma2=0 fm_port=0x388 midi_port=0x300 irq=10 wss_port=0x530 port=0x370''
[04:58] <AAA> all my warez is gpl'd =p
[04:58] <nickrud> god, I some times hate tab completion in xchat
[04:58] <wil_> mwhite  do a search for java in synaptic
[04:58] <Lycade> Hmm, I take it the default music player can't play winamp radio stations?
[04:59] <mwhite> k
[04:59] <Lycade> Anyone know if xmms does? >.>
[04:59] <Xaero_Vincent> Ubuntu Dapper is under feature lock.. by the time its released in June, all its packages will be outdated... so is there going to be a big update by the time it's released?
[04:59] <Apostle^> Lycade: it does.
[04:59] <nickrud> jadaz87, the live cd is meant to be a test, or example of ubuntu. Not something that you customize while it's running
[05:00] <wil_> mwhite  sun-j2re1.5
[05:00] <driggers> hi.  i have ubuntu on a toshiba laptop and i have an external HD.  i want to boot windows xp off a small partition on that drive... i have no clue where to start.  i don't even know if this has anything to do with the fact that ubuntu is my main os
[05:00] <jadaz87> nickrud exactly that is why i want to customize the iso while i have it extracted
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Xaero_Vincent,   its a catch-22 situation.   either way ya lose. :(
[05:00] <mzuverink> What do I need to do to get spamassassin to work, I just installed it but it is not working?
[05:00] <driggers> like... could i make the windows partition on the HD from my ibook instead?  then run it on the toshiba?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Xaero_Vincent: they wont be that outdated.  ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <sto6ma9ch> Hello?
[05:01] <Xaero_Vincent> Hobbsee some packages are already outdated.. im just looking on distrowatch :/
[05:01] <nickrud> jadaz87, I see. you want to create a custom live cd. I don't know much about that, so I'll simply shut up :)
[05:01] <Lycade> Now to find out how to install xmms as well. -_-
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Xaero_Vincent: you find that on anything stable...
[05:02] <jedx23> How can i run a irc server?
[05:02] <jedx23> off of my linux system
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> jedx23,  installl one, start it up.. :P
[05:02] <jedx23> like what one
[05:02] <jedx23> i have no ideal what to get
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Google would be the place to look.. WHY you want one is the big question.
[05:02] <nickrud> nickrud looks to his left: buggy new stuff (I'll run debian unstable).  :P
[05:04] <gmmech> I changed the irq to 5 cuz I know that fro checking th bios but used that and checked the lspnp with same results
[05:04] <jedx23> all they do is cuss and sexual harrass 15 year olds
[05:05] <gmmech> man this is frustrating because I know it;s something small
[05:05] <jinho> nickrud: another question
[05:06] <gmmech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12271
[05:06] <jedx23> Plus everyone tould me linux would be the best way to host a irc server
[05:06] <jedx23> your own server that is
[05:06] <gmmech> lol
[05:06] <nickrud> jinho, I always have answers, sometimes I bite my tongue because I know I'll be wrong, but it's your dime
[05:06] <gmmech> that is VERY ISP dependant
[05:06] <jinho> nickrud: I dont seem to have superuser privileges
[05:07] <jinho> nickrud: I want to edit etc/apt/source.list
[05:07] <mwhite> I think I found my problem
[05:07] <nickrud> jinho, type groups in a terminal, if admin shows up you should have admin privileges
[05:07] <jinho> nickrud: but it says its read-only
[05:07] <mwhite> I need  GTK, Version 2.2.1 or later
[05:07] <nickrud> jinho, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and enter your password
[05:08] <blindx> Case sensitivity blows.
[05:08] <wil_> mwhite sorry can[t help
[05:08] <jinho> nickrud: interesting
[05:09] <nickrud> jinho, which :)
[05:09] <jinho> nickrud: I am admin, but why can't I edit source.list?
[05:09] <mwhite> ok np. that must mean that Ubuntu doesn't come with GTK?
[05:09] <blindx> if a system is case sensitive, then you should be able to have the following to files in the same directory: foo.jpg and FOO.jpg
[05:09] <jinho> nickrud: in the ubuntu forums one of the instructions for installing E17 says to edit that file
[05:09] <jadaz87> Goodnight All
[05:09] <jedx23> do you think unreal would be good for host a server?
[05:09] <nickrud> jinho, when you type    sudo echo hi      what happens?
[05:09] <jinho> nickrud: which is why I am somewhat puzzled
[05:10] <jinho> nickrud: hi \n [1] + Killed    xchat
[05:10] <AAA> blindx  yes
[05:10] <blindx> yes what?
[05:10] <jinho> nickrud: \n meaning its on the next line...
[05:10] <AAA> you can have both of those files in the same directory
[05:10] <blindx> ...really?
[05:10] <blindx> wow.
[05:10] <nickrud> jinho, then gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list should work
[05:10] <AAA> no, just kidding
[05:10] <blindx> that would get really confusing.
[05:10] <blindx> LOL
[05:10] <blindx> you ass
[05:11] <mwhite> anyways thanks for the help you all. This is frustrating but fun. :)
[05:11] <AAA> seriously, you can
[05:11] <jinho> nickrud: interesting...but the file is empty now
[05:11] <jinho> nickrud: (do you mind if I ask what gksudo and gedit mean?)
[05:12] <gmmech> gedit is the basic text editor
[05:12] <facugaich> !gksudo
[05:12] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[05:12] <nickrud> jinho, gksudo is a request to run the following command as administrator ; gedit is the command to run as admistrator, and it is a text editor
[05:12] <gwkw> hi all
[05:12] <nickrud> jinho, and /etc/apt/sources.list should definitely not be empty
[05:12] <jinho> nickrud: strangely it is...
[05:13] <gwkw> i am new to ubuntu, i was just wondering.. is there a way to upgrade 4.1 to 5.1?
[05:13] <AAA> having a case sensitive fs is a very good and logical thing.  winders has made lots of strides to bastardized the logic unix created. take the \ for example...
[05:13] <nickrud> jinho, type, in a terminal, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <jinho> nickrud: all the stuff showed up
[05:13] <echo> ok... nother stupid question
[05:13] <nickrud> blindx, AAA was not kidding, FOO.PNG is not the same file as foo.png
[05:13] <jinho> nickrud: but when I do the gksudo and gedit command...its empty...
[05:13] <gwkw> ??
[05:13] <echo> how do i edit xorg.conf file????
[05:14] <nickrud> jinho, so you are mistyping something
[05:14] <dibblego> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <echo> ty
[05:14] <jinho> nickrud: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <nickrud> jinho, yes
[05:15] <nickrud> dibblego, you shouldn't recommend sudo for running gui apps, it may mess up permissions in the home directory.
[05:15] <nickrud> dibblego, if they change a preference and save it
[05:15] <jinho> nickrud: so weird...its still empty
[05:15] <echo> ok another question...
[05:15] <dibblego> nickrud: righto
[05:15] <nickrud> jinho, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <AAA> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <echo> how do i restart xorg w/o restarting computer
[05:16] <dibblego> CTRL-ALT-F1
[05:16] <facugaich> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:16] <AAA> echo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:16] <dibblego> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:16] <dibblego> startx
[05:16] <echo> ty again
[05:16] <facugaich> oh, well
[05:16] <jinho> nickrud: cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows everything as it should be
[05:16] <nickrud> dibblego, I went round and round on that, everyone said that but no one said why: gksudo env | sort and sudo env | sort shows the reason
[05:17] <jinho> nickrud: I've checked my spelling 100 times over...
[05:17] <Apostle^> what desktop mixes speed with eye candy? xfce ?
[05:17] <AAA> jinho  then just vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <nickrud> jinho, then do as AAA said
[05:17] <AAA> jinho  you have to use sudo before, by apologies
[05:17] <lancellor> hi guys a simple question
[05:18] <jinho> AAA: It appears in the terminal
[05:18] <lancellor> should i install ubuntu and upgrade to the dapper or wait until dapper comes out
[05:18] <AAA> jinho  ok, you are just trying to enable multi/uni verse, correct?
[05:18] <LathropWells> users shows that i am logged in three times?
[05:18] <jinho> nickrud: / AAA am I able to edit this like any other doc now?
[05:18] <gmmech> crimsun did you see my paste file????
[05:19] <nickrud> jinho, precisely, that's where you are going. You want to add those e17 sources
[05:19] <AAA> jinho  vim is a bit different, you want to arrow down to the # that is in front of the line containg multiverse and hit x (that will delete that charachter) so far so good?
[05:19] <luisito> hello guys
[05:19] <jinho> AAA: yeah
[05:19] <gwkw> one question for whoever that is free
[05:20] <gwkw> if some hardware dont have the driver for linux what should we do?
[05:20] <gwkw> create our own driver?
[05:20] <AAA> jinho  do the same to the universe line, then type --> :wq (that will write and quit the file) then do apt-get update
[05:20] <Lycade> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to open the cd-rom drive? >.>
[05:20] <AAA> gwkw  what hardware?
[05:20] <Lycade> My button quit working after copying some files..
[05:20] <AAA> Lycade  eject -r
[05:20] <Lycade> Thanks
[05:20] <Apostle^> Lycade: use sudo with that
[05:20] <gwkw> erm.. its actually for my wireless card and sound card
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: any line that has multiverse?
[05:21] <nickrud> Lycade, right clicking the cdrom icon on your desktop & selecting eject should work as well
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: because I see a few that say both universe and multiverse
[05:21] <Lycade> There isn't anything there on the right click. =/
[05:21] <AAA> jinho  one is for deb-src the other for deb, unless you plan to build packages from source you prolly don't need that, but it worn't hurt
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: like breezy universe
[05:21] <Lycade> Then again, I tried from the directory
[05:21] <Lycade> I'll check desktop..
[05:21] <jinho> AAA: so just from deb?
[05:22] <luisito> I'm having an error when login, and I don't know how it comes. It says that my $HOME/.dmrc file have wrong permissions and that it should be owned by me and have 644 permissions but I checked and it is right. Any clues?
[05:22] <AAA> jinho  iirc that file is commented fairly well, but yes that is what you do
[05:22] <gwkw> my wireless card is an Apacer usb flash drive and wireless usb , 2 in 1
[05:22] <gwkw> so..
[05:22] <AAA> luisito  sudo chown user.user (where user is your login name) ~/.dmrc
[05:23] <jinho> AAA: my apologies its just that this is literally my first experience with linux
[05:23] <luisito> AAA, ok, let me try
[05:23] <jinho> AAA: so I'm a bit wary having so much power :-)
[05:23] <gwkw> anyway i be back.. just downloaded 5.1 goign to install it now.. c you guys later.
[05:23] <gwkw> have fun
[05:23] <AAA> gwkw  there _may_ be drivers for it. I suggest doing lsusb (with the device plugged in) and paste that into google
[05:23] <Lycade> nickrud - it worked from desktop, thanks. Now back to installing WoW
[05:23] <AAA> jinho  welcome to *nix
[05:24] <gwkw> ok thanks AAA
[05:24] <nickrud> jinho, lol, that's what it's all about. I gotta close up for the night, AAA seems to have you well in hand
[05:24] <gwkw> i will be back...
[05:24] <jinho> nickrud: thanks so much for the help though, no doubt you'll be seeing more of me in the future :-)
[05:24] <jinho> nickrud: goodnight
[05:25] <nickrud> jinho, see you about. Remember: Everything in linux is transparent, it's all about learning where to look.
[05:26] <jinho> nickrud: I'll be sure to keep that in mind
[05:26] <jinho> AAA: now that did all that
[05:26] <iceman> anyone installed ubuntu using scsi drives ?
[05:26] <jinho> AAA: am I supposed to just do: sudo apt-get enlightenment?
[05:27] <AAA> jinho  apt-get update (this will make the changes aware to system) then you can apt-cache search foo
[05:27] <iceman> how much hdd space for a base install
[05:27] <jipijones8> hey
[05:27] <linux_user400354> im having a problem installing limewire. could someone help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12273
[05:27] <jipijones8> whats the nickersev register command?
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used bootchart on Breezy?  I can't seem to figure out how to make it go.
[05:27] <AAA> jinho  you have to update your apt database first, then you can search or install from the multi/uni
[05:27] <jinho> AAA: I see
[05:27] <AAA>  /nickserv register name passwd
[05:28] <jipijones8> linux_user400354, your not even using ubuntu are you?
[05:29] <linux_user400354> yes i am using ubuntu
[05:29] <tuxuser19> i have just installed ubuntu on my pc.i want to login as root i cant do that in ubuntu!i heard that ubuntu by default wont activate root.how to activate root privilages
[05:29] <michael117> What website can I use to paste fairly large error messages?
[05:29] <jinho> AAA: apt is where I can get my upgrades from?
[05:29] <jipijones8> linux_user400354, then you must get the tar.gz not the rpm
[05:29] <facugaich> tuxuser, sudo
[05:29] <jinho> AAA: or is it much more than that- which I'm sure it is
[05:29] <facugaich> tuxuser: 'sudo [commands] '
[05:30] <facugaich> or sudo -s if you want a promt
[05:30] <jipijones8> linux_user400354, when u get the tar.gz, extract to your desired place for limewire to be installed, and do - sh runLime.sh in the folder
[05:31] <facugaich> nights ppl
[05:32] <prospero2005> tuxuser19 I can help with that
[05:32] <gmmech> brb
[05:32] <dreamer_>
[05:32] <dreamer_>
[05:32] <tuxuser19> i have tried that it doesnt work i get "sudo: unable to llokup <username> via gethostbyname()
[05:33] <arrick> his /etc/hosts file is corrupted
[05:34] <Warbringer87> Whats a good FTP client for ubuntu?
[05:34] <jinho> dreamer anyoung
[05:34] <michael117> I'm trying to compile a kernel for a small device but keep getting the following error message: http://pastebin.com/660899
[05:34] <dreamer_> hi there
[05:34] <Kuyaedz> Warbringe: gftp or use FireFTP Firefox plugin
[05:34] <arrick> Warbringer87,  PROFTPD
[05:34] <jinho> dreamer do you know how to enable korean text support?
[05:34] <Warbringer87> thnx
[05:34] <tuxuser19> prospero2005 what i have to do now ?
[05:34] <jinho> dreamer: I just installed ubuntu and I dont know how to enable korean typing
[05:35] <arrick> night all
[05:35] <dreamer_> then you can recognize korean?
[05:35] <jinho> dreamer yeah
[05:35] <dreamer_> installing navi is the best choice
[05:35] <Warbringer87> is  gftp compatible with ubuntu?
[05:35] <jinho> dreamer how do you do that?
[05:35] <SusPec1> hi
[05:35] <dreamer_> hold on....
[05:35] <cafuego> recognising isn't too hard, _understanding_ is ;-)
[05:35] <Kuyaedz> Warbringe: yes.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Warbringer87,  you mean the gnome ftp client gftp?
[05:35] <AAA> jinho  that is it really. when you change your sources.list, run apt-get update, if you want to upgrade all packages run apt-get upgrade, if you want to search use apt-cache search <pkg> if you wanna install apt-get install <pkg> remove? apt-get remove <pkg> easy as pie :)
[05:35] <SusPec1> i still dont understand how to install a rpm file
[05:36] <SusPec1> and i dont know how to open the files i installed with wine
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  use alien, convert it to a deb, dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:36] <AAA> SusPec1  why? on a .deb system? there is prolly a .deb for it, otherwise use alien
[05:36] <tuxuser19> help needed still waiting for my sudo/root prob ;(
[05:36] <dreamer_> jinho
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  wine /home/username/.fake_windows/program files/program.exe :P
[05:36] <dreamer_> refer this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanSetupHowto
[05:36] <SusPec1> show me a example command please
[05:37] <AAA> tuxuser19  sudo -s then passwd
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> or whatever wine dir uses.
[05:37] <jinho> AAA: Thank you
[05:37] <arrick> tuxuser19, your /etc/hosts file is corrupted,
[05:37] <SusPec1> wine: cannot find '/home/username/.fake_windows/program
[05:37] <jinho> AAA its installing now
[05:37] <SusPec1> tahts what is said
[05:37] <SusPec1> thats*
[05:37] <jinho> dreamer: thank you too, I will do that
[05:37] <dreamer_> k
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  now is where you 'think'  and look and see what dirs are there and use the right paths
[05:38] <tuxuser19> /etc/hosts or /etc/sudoers ?
[05:38] <arrick> probably both actually
[05:38] <SusPec1> oh so i type wine: /home/suspect/then what
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  wine uses some 'directory' thats its own little windows type dir.  cd  into it, and see whates there.
[05:38] <SusPec1> the file is aim
[05:38] <AAA> tuxuser19  the hosts file has 0 to do with sudo
[05:38] <SusPec1> i want to test taht out
[05:38] <SusPec1> that
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> use the shell and see what dirs are there.
[05:38] <tuxuser19> AAA thats what I thought
[05:38] <SusPec1> locate aim?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> and i doubt if AIM will work very well .
[05:38] <misguided> "Can't find kernel build files in [anywhere I set KBUILD to, even though I've unpacked the kernel source into /usr/src/] "
[05:39] <arrick> AAA, not according to what fixed one last night, with the error he had earlier
[05:39] <AAA> tuxuser19  and the sudoers file only delegates privs to non-root users
[05:39] <SusPec1> then what about xfire?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  'ls -al' will show all the dirs. incoudien the hidden ones.
[05:39] <SusPec1> or internet explorer 6
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  thats just sick :P using IE.
[05:39] <SusPec1> i type -al it was a command not found
[05:39] <AAA> SusPec1  or you can do find .fake_windows (this will show you all the files and dir's in that directory)
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> there is a program on freshmeat that sets up IE in wine for ya.
[05:39] <tuxuser19> AAA whats the solution?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  'ls -al' will show all the dirs. including. the hidden ones.
[05:40] <resin> lmao SusPecl
[05:40] <SusPec1> oh
[05:40] <arrick> AAA, according to this "sudo: unable to llokup <username> via gethostbyname" if you look at his /etc/hosts, you wont find a host name , and sudo wont work after you config /etc/sudoers
[05:40] <misguided> anyone got any suggestions for me?
[05:40] <AAA> tuxuser19  to activate the root account? do sudo -s (gives you a root-like shell) and issue the cmd passwd (chage the root passwd)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> it maybe time to go read a few bash tutorials. and learn the basics of the shell.
[05:40] <sonicjam> hey hobbsee i got fire fox installed
[05:40] <sysop_> my ubuntu keeps freezing.  i've installed it 3 times now
[05:40] <SusPec1> ok i typed the command
[05:40] <SusPec1> i see a whole bunch of things
[05:40] <SusPec1> a list
[05:40] <SusPec1> = D
[05:40] <AAA> arrick  incorredct
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> start THINKING about what you are doing. :P see any named .fake_windows or .wine or similer eh?
[05:41] <arrick> ok, we even had the guy signed in under root, and he couldnt do anything last night
[05:41] <SusPec1> but i want to know if i can install IE
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> I use cedega. it may differ.
[05:41] <tuxuser19> i get the same error  "sudo: unable to llokup <username> via gethostbyname"
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,   Yes i hear you can.
[05:41] <SusPec1> you have to pay for cedega
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Cedega is comercial so yes.
[05:42] <SusPec1> LoL
[05:42] <AAA> is that the pasted error? "llokup" <--- like that?
[05:42] <dreamer_> does anyone know what the initial root password is?
[05:42] <SusPec1> anyways
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[05:42] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:42] <SusPec1> now how do i install IE?
[05:42] <SusPec1> i ahve wine installed
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  no clue. I wouldent EVER want to do such a thing.
[05:42] <arrick> !root
[05:42] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:42] <SusPec1> have
[05:42] <tuxuser19> actually it was my error stmt which arrick copied :)
[05:42] <SusPec1> i dont know wheres the root on ubuntu
[05:42] <SusPec1> all i know is terminal
[05:42] <dreamer_> ubotu thx
[05:42] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dreamer_
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  theres not. :P  he just asked Faq #1
[05:42] <SusPec1> oh
[05:42] <sonicjam> ubotu is an bot
[05:42] <ubotu> sonicjam: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:42] <SusPec1> lol
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> !root
[05:43] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <sethk> I wish it wouldn't say that.  the root password is not locked
[05:43] <sysop_> can anyone help me/ ?  my ubuntu freezes
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> its 'locked out' :P
[05:43] <SusPec1> so how do i install internet exlorer six
[05:43] <SusPec1> i saw a tutorial but i dont understand it
[05:43] <sysop_> the keyboard stops responding, the screen hangs, bout the mouse responds
[05:43] <AAA> SusPec1  cat http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/
[05:43] <sethk> no it isn't, it just hasn't been set.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  i would guess ya download the insteller and wine installer.exe Like ya do everything else.
[05:43] <sethk> there is no impediment to setting it.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  yea - i agree
[05:43] <SusPec1> wine:
[05:43] <SusPec1> witht he :<<<
[05:44] <SusPec1> with the :<<<
[05:44] <sysop_> i've got amd64 breezy
[05:44] <AAA> sidenet is a fairly ok script for installing wine with directx and ie and all that junk
[05:44] <SusPec1> wine with the colons beside it?
[05:44] <SusPec1> wine:
[05:45] <iceman> Installing ubuntu on 7x 2.5 gig scsi harddrive wonder how hard it may be
[05:45] <AAA> iceman  like taking beer from a baby =p
[05:45] <SusPec1> Willis?
[05:45] <misguided> can anyone help me with my problems with kernel build source files?
[05:45] <AAA> misguided  possibly, what are you trying to do?
[05:45] <iceman> SusPec1 willis who
[05:45] <SusPec1> Dr_Willis
[05:46] <misguided> trying to compile the latest stable ndiswrapper
[05:46] <SusPec1> i dont get this step
[05:46] <SusPec1> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user.
[05:46] <sysop_> the guy who convinced me to go to ubuntu said he's never seen it freeze up ever.  why is mine?
[05:46] <SusPec1> i dont know what to do there
[05:46] <iceman> Build a 850 Pentium 3 ... and use 10 x  2.5 gig scsi harddrives .... lol ...
[05:46] <michael117> I'm trying to compile a kernel for a small device but keep getting the following error message: http://pastebin.com/660899
[05:46] <AAA> misguided  *eewww* ndis is teh suck. what is the compile problem?
[05:46] <misguided> when i Make, I get "Can't find kernel build files" even though I've downloaded and unpacked them
[05:46] <SusPec1> can someone tell me what to do in that step?
[05:47] <SusPec1> Use gksu -u windows xterm to open a shell as the windows user.
[05:47] <sonicjam> is the terminal case sensetive
[05:47] <dreamer_> sonicjam ok
[05:47] <void^> sonicjam: yes
[05:47] <SusPec1> but what do i do there?
[05:47] <sonicjam> ok no wonder :P
[05:48] <AAA> misguided  I think you may have to config the kernel first, AND make sure it is a symlink to /usr/src/linux  the first thing to do is see what /usr/src/linux points to if it even exists
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  ive neer heard of a 'windows' command or 'user'  no clue where thats comming from of what you are even trying to do.
[05:48] <arrick> hey what is the ubotu wiki page?
[05:48] <SusPec1> ok ima give youa  link
[05:48] <SusPec1> http://www.liewcf.com/blog/archives/2006/04/install-internet-explorer-6-on-linux/
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> I imagine you need to reread and start from the beginning.
[05:48] <Plitskin> hi, where can I get help on how to setup Java SDK on Ubuntu?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Or check freshmeat.net for that program that automates it
[05:48] <arrick> !java
[05:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> I cant think of any good reason to install IE6 with wine.
[05:49] <SusPec1> but its just t test if it works
[05:49] <SusPec1> and i wanna see how it is
[05:49] <SusPec1> so what do i do in that step?
[05:50] <SusPec1> the 3rd step
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> No clue. :P looks like they are refering to a 'windows' user that was made earlier.
[05:50] <misguided> i already established a symbolic link from /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/, so i know it points to where i unpacked it... but I can specify the KBUILD variable at the command line when i Make anyways and I can't seem to point it at the kernel source.  *sigh*  what files specifically is it looking for?  in my source dir i have a Makefile and a bunch of directories with a bunch of .c fi
[05:50] <SusPec1> aww man
[05:50] <SusPec1> but do you know a wat i can install IE6
[05:50] <SusPec1> ?
[05:51] <SusPec1> way*
[05:51] <blindx> why would you install IE6?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> try just downloading the ie installer.exe and run it with wine.
[05:51] <SusPec1> apt-get ie installer.exe?
[05:51] <iceman> wish i could install and run Ubuntu from a fat 32 drive
[05:51] <AAA> misguided  ok. unlink that and do this, cd /usr/src ; ln -s linux-source-2.6.12 linux
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  'think' :P
[05:51] <blindx> lol suc
[05:51] <blindx> sus*
[05:51] <Apostle^> good to be back on gnome
[05:51] <Apostle^> kde is slow as molasses
[05:52] <AAA> misguided  also note that your modules tree is of a differtent kernel tree
[05:52] <SusPec1> invalid operation 'ie'
[05:52] <iceman> install... and run Ubuntu from fat32 using loanlin .... anyone know a howto
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  GO to the MS site.. download the IE installer and run it with wine.
[05:52] <blindx> rofl
[05:52] <AAA> iceman  zipslack ?
[05:52] <SusPec1> ms?
[05:52] <SusPec1> send me a link
[05:52] <SusPec1> please
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> www.google.com
[05:52] <blindx> ...
[05:52] <blindx> www.microsoft.com
[05:52] <blindx> wtf
[05:52] <SusPec1> og
[05:52] <SusPec1> oh
[05:52] <iceman> AAA zipslack has a lot of broken librarys in x ... ?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> for the last time - start THINKING.
[05:52] <blindx> wow.
[05:52] <AAA> iceman  and OLD hehe
[05:52] <SusPec1> who?
[05:53] <misguided> AAA what do you mean when you say my modules tree is of a different kernel tree
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> You SusPec1. You are asking questions that if you toought about for 5 sec. you would realize the answer.
[05:53] <iceman> guess i could try "zipslack" with a older x package list ...
[05:53] <AAA> misguided  look carefully and the 2.6.x (x number) the modules are for .10 and your source is for .12
[05:53] <SusPec1> ok god
[05:53] <SusPec1> = \
[05:53] <blindx> Dr_Willis, what do you mean? IE isn't available through the repositories? :P
[05:53] <misguided> no, 2.6.12-10-386...
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> blindx,  guess not.
[05:54] <AAA> iceman  I was kidding/sarcastic about zipslack afaik it is not keep up to date
[05:54] <blindx> rofl
[05:54] <luisito> AAA, it didn't work (.dmrc error)
[05:54] <arrick> Dr_Willis, sethk check out !root
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> blindx,  Linux needs to get on the ball and include IE!
[05:54] <misguided> they're both .12, i'm not sure what the -10 is for
[05:54] <wdennis> how does one enable mod_perl on my apache2 inst?
[05:54] <arrick> !root
[05:54] <ubotu> somebody said root was By default, the root password is "locked" in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:54] <blindx> lmfao.
[05:54] <arrick> is that better?
[05:54] <AAA> luisito  chmod 644 .dmrc
[05:54] <_jon> AAA, You'll find Linux jokes are better understood at the offtopic channel ;)
[05:55] <AAA> _jon  :)
[05:55] <mikebot> so is there any way to get WMVs with  DRM (Digital Rights Management) to play in totem?
[05:55] <dreamer_> !root
[05:55] <ubotu> somebody said root was By default, the root password is "locked" in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:55] <dreamer_> !wiki
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Technicially would it be best to say "direct logging in by the root user, is disabled"
[05:55] <_jon> mikebot, I'm not sure of this, but my senses tell me no, But I think you could possibly convert it?  How?  I don't know =\  Sorry.
[05:55] <arrick> You want me to change it?
[05:55] <misguided> mikebot, i was going to experiment with trying to run DRM enabled media players in wine...  linux has no native support for *windows* media DRM
[05:55] <dreamer_> !ls
[05:55] <ubotu> ls is probably the command used to LiSt the contents of a directory in Linux.
[05:56] <SusPec1> oh one more question
[05:56] <dreamer_> !sudo
[05:56] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:56] <blindx> lol.
[05:56] <SusPec1> how do you run the files through terminal?
[05:56] <blindx> Which files?
[05:56] <SusPec1> like .exe
[05:56] <AAA> SusPec1  what are you trying to do now ...
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  you have been running files that way 'ls' for example
[05:56] <michael117> Does anyone know how to fix this error: http://pastebin.com/660899
[05:56] <blindx> wine program.exe
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> and ive told ya SEVERAL times the 'wine whatever.exe' command.
[05:56] <SusPec1> the command is confusing though
[05:56] <AAA> SusPec1  .exe are not in the proper binary format to run natively on *nix!
[05:57] <mikebot> arghhh
[05:57] <mikebot> so no drm at all?
[05:57] <mikebot> no programs?
[05:57] <wdennis> hello all
[05:57] <SusPec1> dont act smart with me
[05:57] <blindx> how is the command confusing?
[05:57] <wdennis> how does one enable mod_perl on my apache2 inst?
[05:57] <blindx> SusPec1, i really don't think you should have linux.
[05:57] <SusPec1> im new ta this
[05:57] <blindx> apparently.
[05:57] <SusPec1> so shush
[05:57] <_jon> AAA, There should be a giant disclaimer on the boot of Ubuntu "*Warning* Linux is NOT Windows.  Have a good day! :)"
[05:57] <blindx> so am i
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  you have been shown several examples and need to pay attention is bottom line.
[05:57] <blindx> it's my second day on linux :P
[05:58] <arrick> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> hmm... root is By default, the root password is "locked" in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <sethk> SusPec1, there is usually an alias named "dir", if that makes you feel better
[05:58] <SusPec1> me too
[05:58] <_jon> mikebot, Google might find a few things as far as converting the DRM locked wmas...
[05:58] <arrick> ouch
[05:58] <SusPec1> ive just been asking how to open wine files
[05:58] <arrick> hang on
[05:58] <SusPec1> tahst all
[05:58] <SusPec1> thats
[05:58] <SusPec1> i know how to do everything else
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> you mean a 'windows binary executable'
[05:58] <SusPec1> yes
[05:58] <blindx> no, he means wine files!
[05:58] <misguided> mikebot, it's dependent on windows media drivers that aren't available for linux...  so as far as i know the only way to even dream of doing it is to try and run it through wine and suck up as many native dlls as you can.  i'm going to try this myself in the next couple days regarding Janus DRM 10 wmas which there is definitely no crack for.
[05:58] <SusPec1> ?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> You said earlier that you installed aim. so how did ya do that?
[05:58] <SusPec1> like wine aim.exe
[05:58] <arrick> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> I guess root is Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:59] <AAA> alright n00b's  my kids are taking over my monitor for their movie pleasures.  be good n00b's and break your box before I get back, just don't loose your Inet connection...
[05:59] <mikebot> misguided, ok, thanks
[05:59] <arrick> !language
[05:59] <SusPec1> its with the colons right?
[05:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:59] <_jon> SusPec1, What colons??
[05:59] <SusPec1> :
[05:59] <SusPec1> that
[05:59] <arrick> Dr_Willis, that better?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> ive never entered any colons.
[05:59] <SusPec1> wine:
[05:59] <misguided> mikebot, part of the reason that no one is rushing to try and hack this support into linux is because it technically violates linux's license.  because of the way GPL works.  it's more an ideological issue though, people who support free software are generally against drm as a rule
[05:59] <SusPec1> corect?
[05:59] <SusPec1> correct
[05:59] <blindx> bi
[06:00] <resin> lol, this is hilarious
[06:00] <blindx> no*
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Better
[06:00] <_jon> SusPec1, If you have an .exe named "bob.exe" and it's in your home folder.  cd to your home folder and type in wine bob.exe
[06:00] <mmmiiikkkeee> i would really apreashite if some one coudl look at my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275
[06:00] <SusPec1> cd ~?Home
[06:00] <resin> do you all deal with this stuff everyday? :P
[06:00] <arrick> night all
[06:00] <blindx> SusPec1, i really think you should just install windows and call it a day.
[06:00] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am hainga lot of tuble getting dual monitors to work with it
[06:00] <_jon> resin, This is only a bit of it ;)
[06:00] <SusPec1> i dont have the wxp cd
[06:00] <blindx> I'll mail you one.
[06:00] <resin> i can only imagine
[06:00] <_jon> resin, and what's worse is I do this for free.
[06:00] <resin> lol
[06:00] <SusPec1> and im tired of wxp
[06:00] <SusPec1> i want vista
[06:01] <blindx> I'll get you a copy. Just.. stop using linux :P
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:01] <resin> SusPecl, you need to chill
[06:01] <resin> :P
[06:01] <_jon> SusPec1, Good luck running Vista on any hardware. ;)
[06:01] <SusPec1> ?
[06:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> tring ot configure MergedFB  ihave followed serval online guids
[06:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> but no love :(
[06:01] <SusPec1> you need a sertain motherboard for WV
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> I installed Windows98 on qemu :P
[06:01] <SusPec1> lol
[06:01] <SusPec1> W98 sucks
[06:01] <blindx> no way
[06:01] <blindx> 98SE ftw
[06:02] <resin> 3.1 ftw
[06:02] <SusPec1> ?
[06:02] <_jon> Dr_Willis, That's hott ;)
[06:02] <blindx> 3.1 haha
[06:02] <SusPec1> hoho
[06:02] <misguided> hey, here's a question:  how come sudo accepts my password and su says authentication failure???
[06:02] <Gau> DOS 6.0 ftw
[06:02] <_jon> ubotu, tell misguided about root
[06:02] <resin> touche
[06:02] <SusPec1> what
[06:02] <SusPec1> this is suspect_
[06:02] <_jon> misguided, Check out what ubotu sent you
[06:02] <blindx> oh no wonder.
[06:02] <_jon> misguided, If that doesn't explain it, ask a more detailed question.
[06:02] <SusPec1> lol
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> i would really apreashite if some one coudl look at my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275
[06:03] <blindx> lol...
[06:03] <SusPec1> ok...
[06:03] <blindx> appreciate. :x
[06:03] <Caminomaster> Hello
[06:03] <SusPec1> hi
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> i really want mergedFB to work :(
[06:03] <misguided> ...oh.  huh.  well, it would have been a good idea for me to read that article since i've seen it linked like 4 times since i've been in here.  sorry guys :$
[06:03] <SusPec1> i wonder why rpm is not a command in terminal
[06:03] <SusPec1> hmm...
[06:03] <_jon> misguided, Nah, that's what ubotu is for ;)  He's a wonderful bot.
[06:04] <blindx> he is.
[06:04] <Kumo> hi guys, everytime I have to active my internet connection in System-Administration-NEtwork, could anybody tell me how to set it by default? thanks
[06:04] <_jon> SusPec1, Because Ubuntu is a debian based distro, it doesn't use RPM's
[06:04] <_jon> SusPec1, It uses .debs
[06:04] <SusPec1> oooooooh
[06:04] <misguided> so... what IS the root password then?  it alarms me that I don't know it.  or is it what I think it is, but the functionality is blocked?
[06:04] <Apostle^> Kumo: everytime you boot?
[06:04] <resin> Suspecl, read up on the different distros man
[06:04] <SusPec1> so i have to compile them correct?
[06:04] <Kumo> Apostle^: yes
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> misguided,  the initial user's password is the 'sudo' passwprd.
[06:04] <SusPec1> ok
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  No.
[06:04] <SusPec1> paswprd
[06:04] <SusPec1> way o go
[06:04] <Apostle^> kumo pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[06:04] <SusPec1> to*
[06:05] <_jon> misguided, It's not set, but Sudo replaces anything that you need to do as root, like to access a root write only file such as xorg.conf you do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <mc|amb> hi, is there a way to hide the white background behind the notification are icons?
[06:05] <SusPec1> my name is Alex
[06:05] <blindx> suspec1: you really have no right to be correcting typos in this chatroom.
[06:05] <SusPec1> ok
[06:05] <SusPec1> stupid bitch
[06:05] <SusPec1> oops sorry
[06:05] <misguided> heh the problem with that is that i keep doing things that require root access but that i don't know the command line for, and i start doing it in x and i get the shaft. heh.
[06:05] <Caminomaster> The other night I was banned by an error "spam". I'm sorry bout that, was a "ctrl.C ctrl.V mistake. Forgiveme please
[06:05] <_jon> misguided, Haha, sudo will replace anytime you want root access.
[06:06] <AngryElf> is there a way to make tar include hidden files?
[06:06] <_jon> misguided, Just a weird tweak that Ubuntu has ;)  It was different to me too
[06:06] <mmmiiikkkeee> where should i go to get help with setting up dual monitors on an ATI all-in-wonder card???
[06:06] <Caminomaster> Anyone knows how to rip to MP3 with k3b?
[06:06] <misguided> absolutely, if you know what the command is to launch the program you need root write from...  if you don't it's more complicated :S
[06:06] <blindx> misguided, you can activate the root account and su will work for you. it should be at the bottom of the page that ubotu sent
[06:06] <_jon> misguided, What do you mean exactly?
[06:06] <jinho> hi I know I have enlightenment installed, but how would I get it to show?
[06:06] <Kumo> Apostle^: here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12276
[06:06] <sethk> AngryElf, tar includes hidden files by default
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Caminomaster,  i tend to use "Grip" to rip mp3's from cd. and k3b to burn mp3s to an audio cd.
[06:07] <_jon> jinho, Wasn't there directions to get it to show on the howto that you are hopefully on?
[06:07] <jinho> I still see the default gnome/human theme rather than enlightenment
[06:07] <jinho> _jon: yeah there were...
[06:07] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[06:07] <_jon> jinho, Did you follow them?  to the letter?
[06:07] <jinho> _jon: but that was how to install them
[06:07] <jinho> _jon: I used synaptic
[06:07] <SusPec1> im learing python
[06:07] <mc|amb> hi, is there a way to hide the white background behind the notification are icons?
[06:07] <SusPec1> learning
[06:07] <SusPec1> its real easy
[06:08] <lucifer> hey
[06:08] <jinho> _jon: and found that they are installed, but all I see is gnome still
[06:08] <sethk> SusPec1, python is an excellent language
[06:08] <SusPec1> yes
[06:08] <SusPec1> i learned alot
[06:08] <misguided> _jon: well, like, if i have a tar.gz that i want to extract somewhere the normal user doesn't have write access...  i have to use something like gzip instead of the archive manager that's built into ubuntu/gnome/x because i don't know the command line for that.  that's a bad example because i do know the command line for gzip...  i should think of a better one since it keeps happening.
[06:08] <SusPec1> since 2 days ago
[06:08] <jinho> _jon: forgive me, I'm still learning
[06:08] <mmmiiikkkeee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12275  woudl really liek some help with getting this f-ing graphics card to do daul disply :(
[06:08] <Caminomaster> Willis: But can I rip with k3b? I think is possible but don't know which of the buttons can i try
[06:08] <mrstone> ugh, someone have any information on Ndiswrapper? I really need help guys
[06:08] <sethk> SusPec1, what's daking you so long?
[06:08] <SusPec1> on what?
[06:08] <_jon> jinho, We all are ;)  A quick google search gave me this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e17
[06:08] <blindx> !ndiswrapper
[06:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:08] <sethk> taking, that is
[06:08] <sethk> SusPec1, just kidding, about python.
[06:09] <SusPec1> lol
[06:09] <SusPec1> oh
[06:09] <mrstone> blindx: thank you
[06:09] <_jon> misguided, Isn't it to extract a tar .. just tar optionshere file.tar.gz?
[06:09] <blindx> no problemo
[06:09] <jinho> _jon: haha
[06:09] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[06:09] <jinho> _jon: thats the same forum post that got me into this hairy mess
[06:09] <SusPec1> abs(a)#sqrt(a.real**2+a.imag**2)
[06:09] <SusPec1> haha
[06:09] <vars> hey what about the in2tv deal     how can you watch that with ubuntu?
[06:10] <misguided> _jon yeah I said it was a bad example... the point is I can't use anything with a graphical interface by putting sudo in front of it in the terminal if i don't know the command line to start it
[06:10] <sethk> misguided, you can either do:  gunzip whatever.tar | tar xf
[06:10] <_jon> jinho, *laughs* well did you create a file called e17.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:10] <sethk> misguided, you can either do:  gunzip whatever.tar | tar xf-   sorry
[06:10] <_jon> and put these lines in it? [Desktop Entry]
[06:10] <_jon> Encoding=UTF-8
[06:10] <_jon> Name=e17
[06:10] <_jon> Comment=
[06:10] <_jon> Exec=enlightenment
[06:10] <_jon> Icon=
[06:10] <sethk> misguided, or, you can use the convenience option, tar xvzf
[06:10] <_jon> Type=Application
[06:10] <jinho> _jon: I cant even edit my sources.list still
[06:10] <jinho> _jon: I can delete stuff in vim but vim doesnt seem to work like a normal editor
[06:10] <resin> jinho: why not?
[06:10] <resin> oh
[06:10] <blindx> I got the same problem :P
[06:10] <resin> use another editor then
[06:10] <blindx> I just use gedit
[06:10] <jinho> _jon: when I type i seem to be screwing up stuff
[06:10] <resin> pico or nano
[06:10] <misguided> heh i know all these command lines for that particular situation, that's why i'm not sitting here wondering what the heck is the command for such and such?  the problem is, when i don't...
[06:10] <jinho> gedit
[06:11] <iceman> AAA cant seem to get X installed and complete librarys working in zipslack ... lot of stupid errors ..
[06:11] <_jon> jinho, Vim = Not my suggestion, try nano
[06:11] <jinho> I think what it is is that Im still confused about the file structure
[06:11] <jinho> I'm still stuck in c:\ land
[06:11] <mooor> hello
[06:11] <jinho> and am finding the root structure to be a bit confusing
[06:11] <_jon> misguided, Ooo, well, mostly it's self explainitory.  use gksudo for graphical applications.
[06:11] <VSFH> Anyone happen to know off the top of their head a url to like an 'ubuntu bible' or the like ?
[06:11] <mooor> man gdb or man ddd puzzled me
[06:11] <iceman> missing librarys ... when x runs.... errors in releation to x ... and the x screen links ..
[06:11] <_jon> jinho, You'll get used to it ;)  Eventually.
[06:11] <mrstone> is there a way to uninstall Ndiswrapper completely? I get a fatal error whenever i go modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:11] <mooor> how can i use gdb or ddd to debug my c program?
[06:11] <jinho> _jon: heh no doubt
[06:12] <VR_> jinho: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg
[06:12] <mooor> i get segmentation fault
[06:12] <mooor> :(
[06:12] <Plitskin2> hi I got disconnected, please tell me again the site on how to setup J2SE on Ubuntu
[06:12] <Plitskin2> thanks
[06:12] <SusPec1> i wonder why i cant download the aim.deb file from aim.com
[06:12] <SusPec1> ftp is all messed up
[06:12] <vars> _jon, what was all that enlightenment about?
[06:12] <jinho> _jon: awesome..nano does the trick
[06:12] <mrstone> VSFH: whenever i need help http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:12] <Caminomaster> Dr_willis: I found a rip mode!
[06:12] <misguided> like say you had to edit a file that the ordinary user doesn't have write access to...  you and i would just go sudo gedit file... but if you didn't know the command gedit, you only knew how to get to the editor from your menu in gnome... then you go to gedit and you don't have write privileges and you go what the hell is the console command to launch gedit!
[06:12] <jinho> _jon:is write out the same as saving though?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> SusPec1,  you may just want to use 'gaim' and be done with it.
[06:12] <Kumo> Apostle^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12276
[06:12] <SusPec1> i know
[06:12] <_jon> jinho, Yes sir, just hit ctrl-O to save
[06:12] <VSFH> thanks mrstone. I'm on dialup but downloading Badger right now, looks like fun
[06:12] <SusPec1> im just saying
[06:13] <_jon> jinho, Then ctrl-x to exit
[06:13] <resin> <3 gaim
[06:13] <mrstone> VSFH: its great stuff
[06:13] <Caminomaster> Dr_willis: but I think I have to install first the plugin decoder
[06:13] <SusPec1> <3
[06:13] <jinho> _jon: awesome
[06:13] <Apostle^> Kumo: add ifconfig eth0 up to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[06:13] <mrstone> I wonder when there is going to be a linux port of Miranda
[06:13] <jinho> _jon: stuff is finally making sense :)
[06:13] <Kumo> Apostle^: ok
[06:13] <blindx> misguided: so you do ALT+F2, gksudo gedit
[06:13] <_jon> vars, Enlightenment = A window manager  Gnome, Kde, Xfce = Window managers.
[06:13] <blindx> then file: open
[06:13] <VSFH> The philosophy about everything being free and available to redistribute and everything else said to me, most awesome
[06:13] <blindx> and find the file
[06:13] <SusPec1> hey so can i play music videos on ubuntu?
[06:14] <blindx> Any recommendations on a VCD burning program? (that can handle avi's?)
[06:14] <jinho> _jon: btw am i reading this right... "Add the following lines to /etc/apt/preferences
[06:14] <misguided> DUDE.  you don't know the command gedit.
[06:14] <SusPec1> from mozilla
[06:14] <resin> Suspecl, yes
[06:14] <jinho> _jon: you can have a file without an ending?
[06:14] <mrstone> SusPecl: yes, I recommend Mplayer
[06:14] <blindx> misguided. who are you talking to?
[06:14] <iceman> wish there were a linux installer for Ubuntu, that could run from "dos" fat 32 ...
[06:14] <_jon> jinho, Yea.  You can
[06:14] <resin> mplayer or vlc is nice
[06:14] <_jon> jinho, Something different from Windows :)
[06:14] <jinho> _jon: yeah lol
[06:14] <ringga> hi, I've got a kernel panic when trying to upgrade to kernel <IP_ADDRESS>. The last message is : [4294670.197000]  kernel panic not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[06:15] <_jon> jinho, Like, if I had a file "blah" and it was saved using a txt editor...it would auto open as a txt file.
[06:15] <VSFH> iceman, you might suggest it; it already exists with redhat, for example, or it may exist
[06:15] <mrstone> How can I completely uninstall Ndiswrapper?
[06:15] <vars> _jason,  is e17 out in the repos?
[06:15] <misguided> you blindx.  i'm trying to make the point that if you don't KNOW a command like 'gedit' (as in, what to type on the console to launch the program), you can't launch it with sudo or any variant of it.
[06:15] <SusPec1> this is what happens
[06:15] <SusPec1> We regret that Yahoo! Music videos are not currently supported for Macintosh. We are exploring ways to offer video on additional platforms, and hope youll check back as we make enhancements to the service.
[06:15] <SusPec1> For more information on Yahoo! Music Video system requirements, visit to the Music Video section of Yahoo! Music Help.Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 4)
[06:15] <SusPec1> oops sorry
[06:15] <SusPec1> spam
[06:15] <VSFH> ringga: then you have a serious problem. :)
[06:15] <blindx> if you don't know the command "gedit" then you probably should learn it, or stop using linux.
[06:15] <iceman> VSFH a dos "fat" way to install redhat ... and run rom fat32
[06:15] <vars> i have been using fluxbox and elightenment off and on
[06:15] <Kumo> Apostle^: that file didn't exist before, is that right?
[06:15] <Apostle^> Kumo: yes
[06:15] <_jon> blindx, Well technically it's a program ;)
[06:16] <sethk> ringga, that usually means the kernel is missing support for the root file system
[06:16] <blindx> _jon: ?
[06:16] <VSFH> iceman: there was a program to load linux kernel into a virtual FS inside fat32
[06:16] <ringga> Anyone knows why? I have similar grub settings as other kernels. Later I tried to make a initrd. But it doesn't work
[06:16] <_jon> blindx, gedit is a program\command
[06:16] <blindx> yes, i know that.
[06:16] <echostorm> hey guys :) does anyone have a quick page gor installing codecs quick and easy? i need my flac and mp3
[06:16] <ringga> I have had ext2 and ext3 compiled in.
[06:16] <blindx> gedit is the command, to open the program
[06:16] <misguided> blindx, lol, we're not talking about gedit specifically, i'm just trying to use it as a really shitty example of a problem
[06:16] <_jon> ringga, Did you manually install the kernel?  Or through repos?  Because if you did it through apt-get install it should set up automatically
[06:17] <blindx> lol misguided. well you learn quickly, trying to tweak, in any case.
[06:17] <jinho> how do I create a file in bash?
[06:17] <ringga> jon: I downloaded it from kernel.org
[06:17] <Kumo> Apostle^: it doesn't let me save it
[06:17] <misguided> heh well that's why i'm here.
[06:17] <iceman> VSFH loanlin will load and run linux from fat32... but getting linux there .... always wants to install to ext2 "ect..."
[06:17] <blindx> lol.
[06:17] <Apostle^> Kumo: did you use gksudo gedit ?
[06:17] <_jon> jinho, Umm, create what file?  You use a program to create a file...
[06:17] <iceman> VSFH i need a dos Installer ... :(
[06:17] <ringga> I configured it myself and compiled. make xconfig, make, make install, make modules_install
[06:17] <jinho> well
[06:18] <jinho> Add the following lines to /etc/apt/preferences
[06:18] <jinho> (If this file doesn`t exist, create it.)
[06:18] <jinho> (Don't know how necessary it is, but it worked for me.)
[06:18] <Kumo> Apostle^: sudo gedit
[06:18] <_jon> ringga, Ah, any reason why you would bother? =\
[06:18] <Apostle^> Kumo: odd, try using root, sudo su
[06:18] <jinho> _jon: those were the very explicit instructions...
[06:18] <VSFH> a dos installer... hmm.. why?
[06:18] <Geren> hi
[06:18] <blindx> jinho: you could just make that file with a text editor.
[06:18] <Geren> is there a reason for me to switch from fc5 to unbuntu ?
[06:18] <_jon> jinho, Ooo, gksudo /etc/apt/preferences or sudo nano -w /etc/apt/preferences
[06:18] <resin> jinho: open nano
[06:18] <Kumo> Apostle^: ok
[06:18] <misguided> but what i'm driving at is... is there no "right-click" or "shift-click" kind of functionality that will let you launch something from x instead of the terminal, get that graphical sudo "please type your password to run such-and-such" so that whatever you invoke from that has superuser privileges?
[06:18] <iceman> VSFH to get a intact directory map in fat32 ...
[06:18] <_jon> jinho, either way
[06:19] <blindx> or.. you could make the file with an echo command, but that gets tricky, and it's unnecessary
[06:19] <ringga> jon: I'd like a faster boot. And many modules comes with ubuntu are not useful.
[06:19] <_jon> jinho, When you open and save that file with stuff in it, it'll auto create.
[06:19] <_jon> blindx, K.I.S.S. as much as possible :)
[06:19] <jinho> I see
[06:19] <blindx> K.I.S.S. ?
[06:19] <jinho> you guys are so great ^^
[06:19] <_jon> blindx, Keep it simple, stupid. (not meant to be offensive)
[06:19] <blindx> hahah
[06:20] <iceman> VSFH or a way to copy and reconfig "ubuntu" to fat32
[06:20] <Kumo> Apostle^: again the same problem
[06:20] <blindx> i just like to throw out alternatives :P
[06:20] <misguided> blindx did you catch my msg above?
[06:20] <VSFH> you're not going to get linux to act appropriately inside a fat32 filesystem
[06:20] <blindx> nah, must have missed it
[06:20] <VSFH> specifically because fat32 sucks, and NTFS sucks more ;)
[06:20] <Kumo> Apostle^: I'm gonna create the file and them I'll move it to that folder
[06:21] <VSFH> Why don't you just partition some space or get a new or use an old harddrive and dual-boot ?
[06:21] <iceman> VSFH winlinux 2003 ... but outdated ... i need new hardware support in the kernel
[06:21] <misguided> blindx: damn, it was the whole reason we were talking about this!  [22:18]  <misguided> but what i'm driving at is... is there no "right-click" or "shift-click" kind of functionality that will let you launch something from x instead of the terminal, get that graphical sudo "please type your password to run such-and-such" so that whatever you invoke from that has superuser privileges?
[06:21] <blindx> Well.. you could... add gksudo gedit to the applications list.
[06:22] <blindx> then right click, run with other application
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> or make a launcher
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Then again.  once ya got stuff set up right.. you dont need to be doing root-ish stuff that much.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:22] <misguided> heh but the whole point is that you might not know the console command offhand to launch whatever you're launching from x
[06:23] <VSFH> you know what I just realized? You know you're a geek when on friday night, you have nothing to do, so you're downloading a new OS to install and play with.. sigh.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> misguided,  thats why i dislike the use of the 'cute names' in the menus
[06:23] <resin> VSFH: amen.
[06:23] <tuxta2>  trying to build a src deb, cant build because of dependency libavcodec1-dev, but I have installed libavcodec-dev ,  how can I get it to use libavcodec-dev instead ??
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> misguided,  ive often added a menu item, to the panels, jist so i can check its properties and see what its really running.
[06:23] <VSFH> but, I take solace in the fact that i have not yet binded different uses for my keyboard LEDs.
[06:24] <misguided> VSFH:  good point. heh since I can't get this to stop sassing me and compile, maybe I'll stop ditching and go meet up with my friends
[06:24] <Luke> if i have an amd athlon xp 2400+ should i use the kernel-image-k7 or the kernel-image-i686?
[06:24] <iceman> Luke K&
[06:24] <Kumo> Apostle^: I don't have the folder rc.d but I have rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d....
[06:24] <Luke> k7?
[06:24] <VSFH> LOL, I don't have anyone to meet up with, you definitely beat me on geekdom -- troubleshooting an install and blowing off your friends in one shot. lol.
[06:24] <Luke> iceman: thanks
[06:24] <blindx> how can I get my monitor to run at 1280x1024 screen resolution, without running the reconfigure thing, cause that doesn't work.
[06:24] <iceman> Kumo there hidden
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[06:25] <ubotu> I guess fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <iceman> blindx yes it does, you just have to learn hor to reconfigure the resolution settings
[06:25] <misguided> VSFH: true.  i've been putting off all my errands for most of the day too.  it's just so frustrating and it seems like it should happen right away as soon as I figure out what the crap is wrong...  but then I dont'.
[06:26] <resin> blindx: edit XF86Config-4 i think it is
[06:26] <resin> i use xorg so i forgot
[06:26] <_jon> blindx, You can edit it manually, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf  find where you see a list of resolutions...and add what you want there..
[06:26] <iceman> blindx when it ask about the resolutions to run in, you tell in t=no, and select your own for each screen setting ...
[06:26] <VSFH> misguided: I'm guilty of the exact same thing -- I can't ever stand the idea that the computer, a machine, is smarter than me, or has beaten me
[06:26] <Joetheodd> How can I make avi files play with aviplay by default instead of totem?
[06:26] <_jon> blindx, then restart X, if it fails, just sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:26] <ringga> jon: any ideas about my problem?
[06:27] <Kumo> iceman: I have comfirmed, no I don't have that /etc/rc.d
[06:27] <VSFH> Now, code, is something different altogether, but usually I can't stand not being able to get something to work
[06:27] <_jon> ringga, Well, besides the fact that I don't suggest building your own kernel unless you have a real reason, try rebuilding it..and be sure have all the options correct..
[06:27] <VSFH> what all installs are you coming up with  ?
[06:27] <VSFH> er, install errors  ?
[06:27] <iceman> Kumo cd /etc/rc.d/ try that
[06:27] <Althulas> is there dc++ for ubuntu ?
[06:28] <VSFH> Athulas -- see if there's a DC++ for debian and start with that
[06:28] <misguided> I just can't get make convinced that I have the kernel source and am pointing it at it.  :S
[06:28] <Althulas> well linux in general
[06:28] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[06:28] <Althulas> im trying to get my step sister to switch
[06:28] <Althulas> and she needs it
[06:28] <TecnoVM64> Althulas, search ubuntuforums.org there's a post about how to install it (and yes, there is)
[06:28] <Kumo> iceman: yes, I don't have that folder
[06:28] <VSFH> athulas - yeah, there's DCGUI for one, I don't know about others cuz I've been off of it for almost 2 years
[06:28] <Althulas> sweet
[06:29] <Althulas> thanbk you
[06:29] <fiendskull9> what was Athulas trying to do?
[06:29] <sethk> misguided, put the kernel where make is expecting it.  Most likely /usr/src/linux-2.6....
[06:29] <TecnoVM64> install DC++
[06:29] <fiendskull9> ahh
[06:29] <fiendskull9> automatix does that, but automatix is crap
[06:29] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:29] <VSFH> I thought automatix was supposed to rock ?
[06:29] <TecnoVM64> eh no
[06:29] <Ric> how will i create and manage users in xubuntu?
[06:29] <_jon> VSFH, It screws up many installs.. =\
[06:29] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:29] <fiendskull9> !automatix
[06:29] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:30] <VSFH> (I'm going on what I read off of pcworld -- I haven't gotten it downloaded yet)
[06:30] <mbelgedhes> is anybody here knowing config of ubuntu kernel ?
[06:30] <_jon> VSFH, I avoid it.  I'll just do my own installs for things I need.
[06:30] <Plitskin2> hi, why do I get this error message when installing JDK?
[06:30] <_jon> VSFH, For the easier stuff, but it has less options..try Easyubuntu
[06:30] <misguided> well it apparently expects a symbolic link, which i created.  and then that didn't work.  so i tried specifying the KBUILD variable on the command line and it still didn't work.  so i'm sitting here wondering if i even have the complete source... i downloaded and untarballed it from the repository...
[06:30] <Plitskin2> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[06:30] <VSFH> I thought that, just by the basic idea of it, but hey, if its open source, you never know how intelligent the code may be
[06:30] <aloon> whats the easiest way to get ubuntu to be able to mount a second hard drive that is for storage and is already partitioned?
[06:30] <VSFH> or unintelligent... see Windows. :)
[06:30] <fiendskull9> the only reason i ever use it is for gamepad installer and easy way to install JRE
[06:30] <blindx> Even after editing my xorg.conf file, my resolution won't show.
[06:30] <blindx>  :\
[06:30] <VSFH> put it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab... I don't remember which
[06:30] <Kumo> iceman: what can I do? can I reinstall something to have that folder?
[06:30] <_jon> blindx, Did you edit it correctly?  Why don't you pastebin your xorg?
[06:31] <blindx> I know my monitor can handle 1280x1024 though.
[06:31] <sethk> /etc/fstab
[06:31] <_jon> blindx, And .. also, did you restart Xorg?
[06:31] <sethk> mtab is a transient structure that goes away when you reboot
[06:31] <blindx> _jon: I edited it once, and it worked, but it was at 43hz
[06:31] <blindx> and was blinking. so i edited it again
[06:31] <iceman> Kumo reading ... see what i can find out
[06:31] <blindx> and haven't been able to get it back to 1280 :\
[06:31] <aloon> systemsettings shows the harddrive but it has no mount point
[06:31] <_jon> blindx, Ah.
[06:31] <resin> blindx: drivers installed? did you try a reboot?
[06:31] <Ric> help!
[06:31] <_jon> blindx, Do you have the right drivers? yeah what resin said.
[06:31] <VSFH> I couldn't recall which one was dynamic and which one static
[06:31] <fiendskull9> aloon, open Gparted and find out what the device is named, and do sudo mount <device name, probably hdb or sda> /media/HD2
[06:31] <blindx> yeah, I've rebooted a few times..
[06:31] <_jon> Ric, What is the help needed for?
[06:31] <Kumo> iceman: ok, thanks
[06:31] <blindx> and no, i probably don't have the correct drivers.
[06:31] <resin> what about drivers though?
[06:32] <resin> well thats your problem most likely
[06:32] <resin> lol
[06:32] <aloon> yes its hdb  thank you
[06:32] <blindx> i don't know what kind of monitor i have. it doesn't have any.. markings..
[06:32] <Ric> how will i create and manage users in xubuntu?
[06:32] <resin> you need drivers for your video card
[06:32] <resin> not monitor
[06:32] <fiendskull9> aloon, np. i beleive there is a way to mount it every boot, hold on
[06:32] <blindx> it's an onboard.
[06:32] <_jon> blindx, Not your monitor silly ;)  Monitors are for kids.  What kind of onboard?
[06:32] <fiendskull9> !tell aloon about ntfs
[06:32] <mbelgedhes> useradd -m -g users,audio name-user
[06:32] <iceman> Kumo try /etc/X11/rc.d
[06:32] <aloon> my main question was how to get kde to see it as mountable
[06:32] <blindx> uh. i haven't a clue :x the computer's a dell
[06:32] <fiendskull9> read that link, and subsitute ntfs for whatever your file system is
[06:33] <resin> probably intel then
[06:33] <_jon> blindx, What kind of Dell? You can google it :)
[06:33] <fiendskull9> aloon, oh, i dunno how to mount in kde.
[06:33] <blindx> it's black
[06:33] <resin> yea, google your dell model and look at specs
[06:33] <blindx> lmfao kidding
[06:33] <blindx> uh shit lemme find out what my model is.
[06:33] <fiendskull9> blindx, it should say on the power button, in an arch circle thing.
[06:33] <iceman> who hass dell issue
[06:33] <mbelgedhes> Dell known as a difficult branded PC
[06:33] <fiendskull9> very
[06:33] <VSFH> Aren't all dells one model? (target practice with a large caliber rifle)
[06:33] <_jon> iceman, No one, we are just trying to figure out his graphics card ;)
[06:33] <fiendskull9> if your gonna do store bought linux pc, go with ibm or gateway
[06:33] <aloon> mount hdb
[06:34] <iceman> what card ?
[06:34] <blindx> dimension 3000, thanks fiendskull9
[06:34] <VSFH> Dell's arent as terrible as Gateway or the mother of all bitches, Aptiva
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Or go to Monarch Computers and order one with Linux :P
[06:34] <iceman> onboard ...
[06:34] <_jon> VSFH, Hahaha, or a paintball gun, in the case of me :)
[06:34] <Kumo> iceman: no, I don't have it either
[06:34] <fiendskull9> Its most definately an Intel 8685G
[06:34] <resin> yea, but search just to make sure
[06:34] <_jon> VSFH, Have you tried Acer?  That is, ... before they went out of buisness?  ... Aptiva is a queen compared to Acer...
[06:34] <fiendskull9> iceman, if its an inspiron dell its gonna be an 8685G
[06:34] <ruth> alguien sabe de servers en espaol
[06:34] <iceman> what cpu in the dell
[06:34] <VSFH> _jon: my family used to run a computer shop (years ago) and my stepdad paid this couple to take their aptiva and back over it several times with an el camino
[06:34] <_jon> !es
[06:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:34] <fiendskull9> ruth, no espanol.
[06:34] <resin> Acer went out of business?
[06:34] <ruth> ya lo se
[06:34] <resin> heh
[06:35] <mbelgedhes> just cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:35] <_jon> ruth, Por Favor usen #ubuntu-es
[06:35] <blindx> um. now, the drivers from dell.com aren't gonna work, cause they're for windows. or will they? :\
[06:35] <_jon> resin, Well...maybe as a full computer maker
[06:35] <_jon> resin, I think they still make parts =\
[06:35] <VSFH> from google
[06:35] <VSFH> Acer Co. Ltd.
[06:35] <VSFH> Acer ranks among the world's top five branded PC vendors.
[06:35] <VSFH> lol.
[06:35] <fiendskull9> blindx, intel.com
[06:35] <fiendskull9> blindx, support/download center
[06:35] <_jon> VSFH Ew ;(  They are back XD
[06:35] <resin> yea, i was going to say, i could of swore i seen acer products on newegg
[06:35] <fiendskull9> blindx, desktop motherboards.
[06:35] <Kumo> iceman: I have searched for a folder called that way in the system but I don't have any
[06:36] <_jon> VSFH, resin, Perhaps I'm behind in the times... =\
[06:36] <fiendskull9> blindx, then do your model, then choose Debian, itll be there for GFX card
[06:36] <resin> hehe
[06:36] <_jon> VSFH, resin, Well back in the day, we bought a 2,000 dollar Acer model, I don't know which one, and that thing was dead before it got out of the box.
[06:36] <VSFH> _jon: Aptiva is the worst I ever found because of their minitowers -- have you seen these super minitowers now? they're marginally bigger than laptops.. I can't imagine how very irritating it must be to work on
[06:36] <resin> _jon: that sucks :/
[06:36] <resin> get your money back i hope?
[06:36] <resin> :P
[06:37] <_jon> resin, Yes sir :)  Marched it right back.
[06:37] <Caminomaster> Dr_Willis: I found how to rip in k3b, HaHa, but was failed...
[06:37] <Caminomaster> Seems good
[06:37] <_jon> resin, Exchanged it for a compaq persario, (not much better but hey..)
[06:37] <resin> hehe, whatever works
[06:37] <_jon> resin, But now we are getting offtopic, so I digress.
[06:37] <_jon> ;)
[06:37] <fiendskull9> i just build my own computers
[06:37] <resin> agreed
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Caminomaster,  :P i recall having GRIP set where it would rip as i put in the cd's and spit them out... it ripped as fast as i could change disks
[06:37] <fiendskull9> On topic peoples :P
[06:38] <_jon> Next Victim...I mean problem ;)
[06:38] <iceman> i have run linux from a dell ... but i install tothe onboard card .. then install nvidia drivers and use the nvidia card i have added
[06:38] <VSFH> worst packaged PC ever -- AMD k5 450mhz with the 100 mhz bus, and 64mb ram.
[06:38] <fiendskull9> lmao
[06:38] <resin> lol
[06:38] <blindx> Uh, I have no clue what to do with this file, now.
[06:38] <fiendskull9> VSFH, my Teamspeak server is worse
[06:38] <_jon> blindx, What file is it?
[06:38] <blindx> it's a tgz file.
[06:38] <blindx> i unpacked it
[06:38] <mbelgedhes> then
[06:38] <blindx> but.. what goes where, how do i install drivers?
[06:38] <VSFH> Here's a question that I'm almost sure I have the answer to. My terrible modem in this terrible PC is not even a pci or isa modem.
[06:38] <VSFH> What's the likelihood that it will be supported?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> VSFH,  whats left then?
[06:39] <VSFH> (Check out Via's VT8235 chipset to see what I mean)
[06:39] <Gau> what kind of modem IS it?
[06:39] <_jon> VSFH, Can pigs fly?  If so, it *might* be supported ;)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> its an AGP modem? :P
[06:39] <resin> VSFH: slim to none?
[06:39] <VSFH> essentially, yeah
[06:39] <fiendskull9> VSFH, 64 bit mobo. amd 350mhz, 100mhz fsp. and came with 16 mb of ram. now at 32mb.
[06:39] <_jon> blindx, What is your graphics card again?
[06:39] <fiendskull9> VSFH, its name is Igor
[06:39] <blindx> it's an intel
[06:39] <VSFH> I figure I'd have better luck with a winmodem, since my external viking was stolen
[06:39] <_jon> blindx, What model?
[06:39] <blindx> i don't know *what* it is.
[06:39] <_jon> fiendskull9, lol, nice name.
[06:39] <jedx23> where can i download Nvidia graphics card drivers
[06:39] <_jon> blindx, What's your Dell model again?
[06:39] <jedx23> For linux
[06:40] <fiendskull9> _jon, my money is on Intel 8685G
[06:40] <blindx> dimension 3000
[06:40] <_jon> fiendskull9 k.
[06:40] <jedx23> well i'm sure you know that lmao
[06:40] <resin> jedx23: nvidia.com
[06:40] <fiendskull9> !tell jedx23 about easyubuntu
[06:40] <VSFH> fiendskull: The 1st pc I used exclusively was a 16 mhz (yeah) 386.. I think it had 16 megs of ram at the very end, but that's probably wrong
[06:40] <iceman> may not have support in breezy for that dell Mobo onboard card ...
[06:40] <fiendskull9> resin, thatll get him nowhere, i dont think they have them there
[06:40] <jedx23> ok they have drivers for my nvidia geforce 4 mx440
[06:40] <resin> yea, they do :)
[06:40] <jedx23> ok
[06:40] <VSFH> probably more like 800 k, but I can't recall the end ramcount in my head, been too long ago
[06:40] <fiendskull9> resin, but hell have to compile them.
[06:40] <_jon> fiendskull9, I can't find anything on Intel 8685G =\
[06:41] <fiendskull9> jedx23, can you compile
[06:41] <resin> that is true
[06:41] <iceman> check intells website for the chipset ... and the check kernel support for the onboard card
[06:41] <VSFH> why oh why am I the last person on dialup?
[06:41] <jedx23> if there application available for linux and say red hat they work on ubuntu too right
[06:41] <Ric> help! how will i create and manage users in xubuntu?
[06:41] <fiendskull9> _jon, download center - Desktop Boards - 865 - 8685G(maybe b after G)
[06:41] <fiendskull9> hold on
[06:41] <iceman> dialup ouch .. i got a 3gig up and down pipe on wireless internet
[06:41] <fiendskull9> iceburgh__, nice
[06:42] <fiendskull9> i get around 2-3 gig down, and 1 gig up
[06:42] <VSFH> I live in the middle of BFE for the time being.. no highspeed available but satellite
[06:42] <fiendskull9> ouch
[06:42] <fiendskull9> i hate sattelite
[06:42] <resin> sucks
[06:42] <VSFH> yet one of my clueless friends (tho many years my senior) has his own t3 line where he lives..
[06:42] <iceman> VSFH "move" .... :)
[06:42] <VSFH> Donated, even
[06:42] <Caminomaster> Dr_Willis: I take it in mind... but I try one more time with K3b
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Ric,  could learn how to do it with the shell. :P 'adduser' 'deluser'
[06:43] <VSFH> yeah, Vegas... and upgrade my pc. ;)
[06:43] <resin> mmm Vegas
[06:43] <fiendskull9> _jon, http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=950&lang=eng
[06:43] <Caminomaster> Dr_Willis: I like few programs in my PC, but if it don't work...
[06:43] <VSFH> does ubuntu utilize grub exclusively, or can I still use lilo?
[06:43] <fiendskull9> _jon, if its not that, then go back and choose 865 chipset - 8685GBF
[06:44] <fiendskull9> !lilo
[06:44] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <fiendskull9> hmm
[06:44] <fiendskull9> VSFH, you can run a slackware mini install, go to menu, and choose install BootMGR
[06:44] <VSFH> I hated slackware :/
[06:44] <fiendskull9> VSFH, the mini disk is like 150 mb.
[06:44] <Ric> Dr_Willis: aren't there any user management app (w/ gui) for xubuntu?
[06:45] <jdsbluedevl> I'm having some trouble with the sound on my Dapper Flight 6 system
[06:45] <fiendskull9> VSFH, you dont need to install it tho. it boots to a main menu. and you choose what operation to do. and just choose install boot manager. itll detect the stuff.
[06:45] <jdsbluedevl> as in I don't have any right now
[06:45] <jdsbluedevl> my soundcard is SBLive CT4780
[06:45] <harisund> Has anyone here used Mathematica? I am looking for some FSF equivalent in Ubuntu, which can do *symbolic* computations (no, Octave can't)
[06:45] <Kumo> iceman: any help?
[06:45] <VSFH> bleh, I loved my lilo. at least I won't have to use special boot args any more
[06:45] <_jon> fiendskull9, Umm, could you help blindx with 3d acel?  Because I haven't the slightest clue where to start =\
[06:46] <_jon> fiendskull9, I'm an ATI man :(
[06:46] <iceman> the a application to unpackage a live cd to a full file system using win98
[06:46] <jdsbluedevl> it worked in Breezy, and it's broken in Dapper
[06:46] <iceman> Kumo no idea whats in rc.d ?
[06:46] <fiendskull9> _jon, me neither really. I use ati radeon. but i dunno.
[06:46] <_jon> fiendskull9, Same.
[06:46] <Kumo> iceman: no
[06:47] <driggers> harisund i've used maple 9.5 in fc3
[06:47] <driggers> but i couldn't tell you how to install it to save my life
[06:47] <harisund> driggers: Yes, maple is pretty good too, but you can't apt-get that right? Isn't it proprietary?
[06:47] <jdsbluedevl> does anyone know how I can fix my sound?
[06:47] <iceman> Kumo what u need access to in rc.d
[06:47] <harisund> driggers: maple is also what I use in school .. but I want to have some sort of a decent symbolic computation tool for Ubuntu
[06:47] <driggers> harisund, sorry i don't even know what apt-get is
[06:48] <linux_user400354> !pastebin
[06:48] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:48] <driggers> maple is comparable (some say better) than mathematica
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: ok don't bother. maple is basically not free..
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Ric,  i tend to install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop.. then.... :P i dont know. of course I got 1 user.. (me) :P
[06:48] <driggers> neither is mathematica
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: Yep, maple and mathematica are comparable, but they are not free..
[06:48] <driggers> maybe u thinking of maxima?
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: maxima? what is that?
[06:48] <Kumo> iceman: I was planning to add a command there but I cannot find it
[06:48] <_jon> Dr_Willis, xubuntu-desktop = Perfect for my P3.
[06:48] <harisund> driggers: that doesn't sound like anything I have heard before?
[06:48] <Ric> Dr_Willis: yeah, same for me.. :p
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  i had gnome/ubuntu on my Pent1 - 100.
[06:48] <jdsbluedevl> hello, can anyone help me with my sound?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> the install took foreve.r. but it worked ok.
[06:49] <linux_user400354> what can i do to fix this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12278
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[06:49] <iceman> Kumo trying to remember whats in rc.d ? folder ?
[06:49] <driggers> maxima and mupad are both symbolic, i'm pretty sure harisund.  you can google them i guess
[06:49] <driggers> harisund one or both of them are free i think
[06:49] <harisund> driggers: ah ha ! Thanks .. will check up on them.... yes, it looks like maxima is free..
[06:50] <driggers> isn't it a bit odd to have a single op bot?  i mean what if ubotu crashes?
[06:50] <_jon> driggers, A mod will restart him.
[06:50] <driggers> k
[06:50] <harisund> driggers: you know what, a couple of days back there was a netsplit.
[06:50] <harisund> driggers: and ubotu was indeed lost :D
[06:50] <iceman> Kumo try /usr/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?
[06:50] <jdsbluedevl> can someone help me?
[06:50] <misguided> OK, interestingly enough, I got ndiswrapper to compile and now the command does nothing at all...  "bash: /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[06:51] <Kumo> iceman: ok
[06:51] <driggers> harisund no troll took controll and banned everyone?  maybe that's not possible... anyway, way off topic
[06:51] <harisund> driggers: join me in ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <fiendskull9> im out for awhile guys
[06:52] <fiendskull9> toots
[06:52] <Kumo> iceman: I don't have it either
[06:52] <Ric> xubuntu-desktop seems to lose the functionalities the original ubuntu system has.
[06:52] <PwcrLinux> Ubugtu is online as the bot
[06:52] <jdsbluedevl> can anyone read my messages?
[06:52] <bifodus> hello
[06:52] <smith_agent> hello
[06:53] <iceman> Kumo run MC and peek around ... i am tring to look at my Linux Complete book .. see what i can find ...
[06:53] <smith_agent> any person speak spanish?
[06:53] <Kumo> iceman: ok
[06:53] <harisund> iceman and Kumo: Care if I join in? Your topic looks interesting?
[06:53] <jdsbluedevl> hello?
[06:53] <sarcasticus> jdsbludevl, I can see you
[06:53] <jdsbluedevl> ok
[06:53] <sarcasticus> but that doesn't mean much
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> I was getting worried that nobody was acknowledging me
[06:54] <bifodus> i'm having a hard time mounting a mac os x network drive...is anyone familiar with doing that?
[06:54] <iceman> harisund np ... i cant find /etc/rc.d/ ?
[06:54] <_jon> smith_agent, Por Favor usen #ubuntu-es por Espanol.
[06:54] <iceman> Kumo u have network support ?
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> my OS is Dapper Flight 6, and my soundcard is SBLive
[06:54] <harisund> iceman: hang on .. let m check
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> and I have no sound
[06:54] <jdsbluedevl> what else do you need?
[06:54] <Kumo> iceman: what exactly you mean?
[06:54] <aloon> whats the easiest way to get kde to be able to mount a secondary storage drive that is partioned, it says it is hdb1
[06:54] <_jon> jdsbluedevl, #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[06:55] <jdsbluedevl> ok
[06:55] <jdsbluedevl> thx
[06:55] <_jon> jdsbluedevl, np
[06:55] <sarcasticus> bifodus, how have you set up the drive
[06:55] <iceman> Kumo if you have a network card, you should have /etc/rc.d no network card, no need for it to install
[06:55] <linux_user400354> i did a "make check" before doing a "make install" to do a test. im getting some errors so i know the make install will not work. how can i fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12278
[06:56] <Kumo> iceman: yes, I think I have one
[06:56] <harisund> iceman, Kumo: I don't there even exists a /etc/rc.d in a Debian (or rather a Sys V based) system
[06:56] <bifodus> i haven't...i think maybe i've got the filesystem wrong...
[06:56] <bifodus> i was trying hfs
[06:56] <harisund> What are you looking for, iceman?
[06:56] <iceman> harisund where does ubuntu put the network rc.d folder ...
[06:57] <sarcasticus> is the drive in an OS X box, or are you trying to access it from and OS X box
[06:57] <PwcrLinux> linux_user400354: did you burned onto CD?
[06:57] <iceman> Kumo try /home/rc.d
[06:57] <Kumo> harisund: I cannot find that folder
[06:57] <Kumo> iceman: ok
[06:57] <bifodus> yeah, it's in an OS X box
[06:57] <harisund> iceman: If you are looking for networking commands, it is in /etc/init.d/networking and then there are simlinks to that in /etc/rc1.d , /etc/rcS.d ...
[06:57] <bifodus> a remote server
[06:57] <linux_user400354> pwcrlinux, no
[06:58] <bifodus> i'm doing 'sudo mount -t nfs host:directory mountpoint'
[06:58] <iceman> harisund figures Linux Complete out of date ... :(
[06:58] <bifodus> er, hfs instead of nfs, i mean
[06:58] <bifodus> (neither seemed to work, however)
[06:58] <PwcrLinux> linux_user400354: Okay then install CD seem bad. try other install CD if you ordered a bundles..
[06:58] <Kumo> iceman: it doesn't exist
[06:58] <iceman> harisund he may need rc1.d
[06:58] <harisund> iceman: Hmm probably. But things are done differently on Ubuntu. There is a /etc/init.d foldeer
[06:58] <harisund> iceman: I agree.. rather he miht need rcS.d ..
[06:59] <harisund> where the scripts are execued any runlevel no matter what
[06:59] <iceman> harisund tell him try that
[06:59] <iceman> Kumo try /etc/rcS.d
[06:59] <Kumo> I do have that
[06:59] <jedx_23> How do i find files i download off of X-CHAT
[06:59] <Kumo> iceman: I do have that
[06:59] <harisund> Kumo: Here's the deal. Every start up script is in /etc/init.d Depending on which run leve you are, scripts with S in them get started and scripts with K in them get stopped.
[07:00] <imbrandon> jedx_23: probbly in ~/.xchat
[07:00] <sarcasticus> bifodus: I access a linux box from an OS X box (the opposite of you). I've found SMB to be the most desirable networking protocol.
[07:00] <Kumo> harisund: ok
[07:00] <harisund> however, scripts in /etc/rcS.d get executed (started or stopped) during boot time
[07:00] <iceman> Kumo probably the Newer directory for newer linux distros ... lie the disaperance of the old xf86config .. now xorgconfig
[07:00] <resin> jedx_23: /home/<uname>/.xchat2/downloads
[07:00] <bifodus> do i need to install any additional packages, sarcasticus?
[07:00] <cppnewbie> hey guys. i just installed ubuntu 64 bit but my repositories are messed up. what can i do to fix em? :)
[07:01] <sarcasticus> bifodus: I have accessed my OS X laptop from the other way round using ftp
[07:01] <imbrandon> cppnewbie: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <wdennis> happy easter everyone  <><
[07:01] <cppnewbie> imbrandon: and put what in them? thats the problem :P
[07:01] <resin> not easter yet wdennis :/
[07:01] <_jon> resin, He's gone :)
[07:01] <PwcrLinux> also, don't forget the .xchat is hidden dir :)
[07:01] <imbrandon> !repositories
[07:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:01] <resin> yea, just noticed, heh
[07:01] <bifodus> thanks, sarcasticus...i'll try SMB and see if i have any problems
[07:01] <iceman> harisund rc.d was the network modules ... looks like ubuntu uses rcS.d ...
[07:02] <sarcasticus> bifodus: my roommate says that you would need to make the user IDs identical on both systems to make NFS work
[07:02] <cppnewbie> imbrandon: even when i start synaptic i get errors. or better, warnings.
[07:02] <Kumo> harisund and iceman: so it means that I should add the file that I want in that directory starting with s like s(number)rc.local?
[07:02] <imbrandon> cppnewbie: follow the link ubotu pasted
[07:02] <harisund> Kumo: I don't think there is a rc.local . What you should do is this: