[02:11] <avihay> lousygarua: disconnection, also, it sometimes doesn't want to connect
[02:11] <avihay> it says it should reconect
[02:12] <avihay> maybe it was school's internet blocking me, I forgot
[02:12] <avihay> I have an IRC bouncer I use for this client
[02:14] <lousygarua> avihay, well can you google for these problems or ask in some willie irc channel maybe?
[02:14] <lousygarua> avihay, you are responsible for this project :)
[02:14] <lousygarua> I have too many tasks on my head
[02:15] <avihay> fine, fine, I'll look into it a bit
[02:29] <lousygarua> avihay, thanks, your work is appreciated
[06:07] <trew100> היי לכולם
[06:07] <trew100> מישהו פה התנסה עם קניה מאמזון?
[06:07] <trew100> אני מעוניין לקנות מהם חומרה, מה בקשר לאחריות?
[07:09] <DeBob> הי חבר'ה. איפה אפשר למצוא מידע על אירועים של אובונטו ישראל?
[07:10] <DeBob> Where can one find information about Ubuntu Israelsocial events


[00:00] <obert_> syd: you could use 'locate' via shell
[06:03] <alterjsive> what is the best way to use adobe software on kubuntu these days? inside a VM? playonlinux?
[06:03] <alterjsive> right now I need to edit a adobe illustrator file for example. I've tried Vectr and Krita. They didn't import the file well
[06:05] <denza242> alterjsive: WINE probably
[06:08] <alterjsive> denza242: playonlinux uses wine, do you know it? it's a library of working tweaked windows configurations
[06:08] <denza242> yeah, I've used it
[06:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:12] <alterjsive> denza242: ok , thx I'll try it
[06:12] <alterjsive> moning lordievader
[06:13] <lordievader> Hey alterjsive how are you doing?
[06:17] <alterjsive> lordievader: I'm good, good, you?
[06:19] <lordievader> Doing good here 😁
[06:20] <alterjsive> lordievader: hehe, I'm working on an insainly ambitious non-profit project
[06:21] <lordievader> Good luck with that 😉
[06:22] <alterjsive> lordievader: thx :)
[08:53] <ktecho> Hey there. I just upgraded to today's kde packages in the ppa. I just can't upgrade "libkf5bookmarks5" because it will uninstall kde-baseapps-bin 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1
[08:53] <ktecho> Is that correct?
[08:55] <lordievader> archeron, you around? ^
[09:20] <underground19> hello? anyone about?
[09:21] <diogenes_> !ask | underground19
[09:24] <lordievader> underground19: IRC is an indirect medium, please be patient.
[09:28] <underground19> Fair enough! Sorry.  When I open a new window or resize a window, all background elements (ie everything apart from the window I've opened) begin to flicker to black. This clears when I super+tab to refresh the activity view, but it's not great and it spoils the kubuntu evangelism that I'm doing a lot of these days :) I'm running Kubuntu 18.04 using the nvidia-driver-390. I know I should probably just change my driver but I'm scared of restarting in
[09:28] <underground19> case I have problems, and this only started happenign a few days ago, maybe after an apt upgrade. Anyone come across this?
[09:30] <lordievader> Does kwin log errors to the journal?
[09:32] <underground19> sorry lordievader, not sure where kwins logs are? I'm a recent debian immigrant.
[09:33] <lordievader> Here, on Gentoo, kwin/kde logs go to the system journal. `sudo journalctl -f` Run that in a konsole and try to reproduce the issue.
[09:39] <underground19> Thanks,  well there's certainly some stuff being printed in the journal when I open windows, but not seeing anything that strikes me as related to the flickering. Nothing printed when I resize a window, for example.
[09:45] <lordievader> What is the output of `sudo lspci -k`?
[09:49] <underground19> specific to graphics?
[09:49] <underground19> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce
[09:49] <underground19> GT 650M Mac Edition] (rev a1) \ Subsystem: Apple Inc. GK107M [GeForce
[09:49] <underground19> GT 650M Mac Edition] \ Kernel driver in use: nvidia \ Kernel modules:
[09:49] <underground19> nvidiafb, nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia \
[09:50] <lordievader> Could you use a pastebin service next time?
[09:50] <lordievader> The `nouveau` driver is still loaded, did you forget to blacklist it?
[09:51] <lordievader> Or the installer didn't do that ;)
[09:51] <lordievader> `/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf` (or something like that) should contain `blacklist nouveau`.
[15:41] <Elw3> Hm kopete does not show a systray icon for me.
[15:41] <Elw3> "QSystemTrayIcon::setVisible: No Icon set"
[15:41] <Elw3> Anyone else?
[17:49] <scorlupka> hey, everyone
[17:50] <scorlupka> guys, do you know where I can find links to apps on my task panel?
[17:50] <scorlupka> I need add some parameters but I don't know where it is
[17:53] <diogenes_> scorlupka, what links?
[17:56] <scorlupka> diogenes_: there are icons on the task panel, I've attached it
[17:56] <scorlupka> for quick access
[17:57] <scorlupka> when I click on it then it launches an app. I need to customize it (add scaling for chromium)
[17:57] <scorlupka> but can't find it
[17:58] <diogenes_> those are icons that u pin to panel from menu?
[17:59] <scorlupka> correct
[17:59] <scorlupka> for instance
[18:00] <scorlupka> https://i.stack.imgur.com/mfjn2.jpg
[18:00] <scorlupka> firefox on the screenshot
[18:02] <diogenes_> scorlupka, /usr/share/applications
[18:04] <scorlupka> diogenes_: yeah it fits for regular applications, but not for apps that were installed via snapd
[18:04] <scorlupka> it looks like it uses something else
[18:06] <diogenes_> scorlupka, there is an easy way to find it out, add the needed application icon to the desktop, change the name (myapp.desktop), customize it the way you want (don't forget to change the Name = ?? too) and copy it to /home/username/.local/share/applications
[18:07] <diogenes_> and in the menu you gonna find out your new application icon with the settings you need
[18:07] <scorlupka> diogenes_: sounds good, I will try. Thanks a lot!
[18:08] <diogenes_> yw
[19:48] <hingrida> hello
[19:48] <diogenes_> hi
[19:48] <hingrida> I just installed kubuntu and then ran Muon package manager
[19:49] <hingrida> I installed 4.4 GB of software but it didn't install
[19:49] <hingrida> it is in /var/cache
[19:49] <hingrida> the packages
[19:50] <hingrida> precisely /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:50] <hingrida> they are not installed.
[19:51] <hingrida> I tried running apt-get install but it said there is a lock
[19:51] <hingrida> how can I install all those downloaded packages?
[19:52] <Mehlw> There is a package manager either still open or id crashed without you seeing it.
[19:53] <Mehlw> Reboot removes the lock savely.
[19:53] <hingrida> ok. And after reboot? How can I safely install those packages?
[19:54] <hingrida> well, thanks then Mehlw, I'll reboot and take it from there, brb
[19:54] <Mehlw> Just repeat installing them normaly.
[20:02] <hingrida> I restarted and all of them are installed
[20:02] <hingrida> Thanks again


[10:41] <yohan> what does this mean? Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on Intel x86_64
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> Belutz, use firestarter, won't give u headache
[10:41] <yohan> that its for purchase?
[10:41] <Seveas> Belutz, you need to manually create your firewalling script
[10:41] <socketbind> WebLOCH: I'm just seventeen and studying at a gymnasium
[10:41] <vbgunz> anto9us: so far all is good... I just never liked the minimize/maximize animation... I really don't care for animations... I just want it to go!
[10:41] <Seveas> Belutz, if you have a minute, I have a simple one that's easily extendable
[10:41] <claude> Belutz: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23
[10:42] <Belutz> Seveas, sure
[10:42] <WebLOCH> socketbind, java at the gym?
[10:42] <Seveas> socketbind/webloch, please take off-topic (non-support) discussions to the off-topic channel
[10:42] <Belutz> claude, i'll read that :)
[10:42] <WebLOCH> Seveas, fair enough
[10:42] <socketbind> Seveas: o.k.
[10:42] <anto9us> vbgunz, if you have a 686 family processor then using a 686 kernel may help too
[10:42] <vbgunz> anto9us: How do I find that out?
[10:43] <vbgunz> anto9us: I heard of this *but* don't know how to tell :(
[10:43] <claude> Anyone know how to see all windows from all desktop from taskbar in gnome ?
[10:43] <Toccy> Is anyone willing to help a real newbie with a question i'm embarressed about?
[10:43] <boci^> shit
[10:43] <vbgunz> Toccy: don't worry be happy ask your q
[10:43] <boci^> tools/convconf.c:81: error: label at end of compound statement
[10:43] <WebLOCH> Toccy,  hair is supposed to grow there dude, its not "evil"
[10:43] <boci^> any idea?
[10:43] <Belutz> claude, right click on the taskbar, it has the options for it
[10:43] <anto9us> vbgunz, your processor is listed when you power-on, uname -r will tell you your kernel
[10:43] <vbgunz> WebLOCH: haha :P
[10:43] <Seveas> WebLOCH, rofl
[10:43] <vbgunz> ok
[10:44] <Toccy> Okay
[10:44] <Toccy> I don't have internet on Linux yet ( gettinga new modem soon)
[10:44] <vbgunz> anto9us: I'll reboot but on what screen will I see my processor information?
[10:44] <Toccy> So I burned some games I downloaded on windows to a dvd
[10:44] <wezzer> is it possible to install ubuntu to pc without cd-rom drive?
[10:44] <claude> Belutz: Hum i didnt find it, where it should be ?
[10:44] <vbgunz> anto9us: I just want to get it right as when I reboot I'll be left all alone :P
[10:44] <claude> Belutz: nvm ty dude
[10:44] <Toccy> I had a game called Supertux
[10:44] <Toccy> I think it was Supertux
[10:44] <Belutz> claude, ok :)
[10:44] <vbgunz> anto9us: this is my current kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[10:45] <socketbind> Toccy: that's pretty cool game :D
[10:45] <Toccy> Well
[10:45] <anto9us> vbgunz, the first screen should tell you
[10:45] <Toccy> I have no clue how to install it
[10:45] <Toccy> >_>
[10:45] <socketbind> slune is pretty great too
[10:45] <Toccy> So I wouldn't know
[10:45] <Toccy> I tried the archive manager
[10:45] <Seveas> Toccy, did you download the .deb file? if not: throw what you have away and download the .deb file
[10:45] <Toccy> But I don't have perms or whatever
[10:45] <Toccy> What do I do with the .deb file?
[10:45] <vbgunz> anto9us: OK, I will try and see now... If it is a 686 and I am using a 386 what do I do?
[10:45] <Toccy> and where can I get it
[10:46] <Seveas> Toccy, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:46] <anto9us> vbgunz, hang on
[10:46] <Toccy> 5.04. I plan to upgrade when I get the modem
[10:46] <Toccy> I have cds from shipit
[10:46] <Toccy> Well
[10:46] <Toccy> a cd
[10:46] <vbgunz> anto9us: ok sure... thank you!
[10:46] <Seveas> !info supertux hoary
[10:46] <ubotu> supertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 217 kB, Installed size: 616 kB
[10:46] <Rounin> Hello! I'm getting a strange error message : Conflicts: scim (> 1.1.0) but 1.4.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:46] <ma> hello
[10:46] <Rounin> Isn't 1.1.0 lower than 1.4.2?
[10:46] <Rounin> Or are we using apt-get math
[10:46] <ma> sss
[10:46] <scribbles> can I use a dvd to burn the 5.10 iso to?
[10:47] <anto9us> vbgunz lshw will tell you your processor undre cpu0
[10:47] <Seveas> Toccy, what kind of pc do you have?
[10:47] <Victor_> hey
[10:47] <ma> yes
[10:47] <Belutz> Seveas, if you'are ready to give the script, please let me know, thanks
[10:47] <Toccy> Well
[10:47] <Toccy> Preformance
[10:47] <Toccy> ?
[10:47] <Seveas> Belutz, still looking for it
[10:47] <Seveas> Toccy, normal pc, amd64 or mac?
[10:47] <Belutz> Seveas, ok
[10:47] <ma> ei
[10:47] <ma> hello
[10:47] <fanopnaic> Can I make an application always launch in workspace $x ?
[10:47] <Toccy> 512RAM, AMD64 Processor, Windows/Ubuntu dual
[10:47] <Toccy> 120gb
[10:47] <IRCMonkey_> hello
[10:47] <Toccy> 60/60
[10:47] <Seveas> Belutz, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/start_nat
[10:48] <Seveas> Toccy, do you use the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[10:48] <Belutz> Seveas, thanks :-)
[10:48] <Toccy> I have a 32bit
[10:48] <ma> I am from spain
[10:48] <vbgunz> anto9us: you mean cpu? I don't have cpu0
[10:48] <Toccy> I didn't mean AMD64
[10:48] <Seveas> Belutz, just change ext_inf to what your internet card is
[10:48] <Toccy> I mean just AMD
[10:48] <anto9us> vbgunz, sorry, yes
[10:48] <vbgunz> anto9us: ok, looking
[10:48] <Seveas> Toccy, you need this file: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/supertux/supertux_0.1.2-3_i386.deb
[10:48] <Nei> why when I start aptitude and select nothing and do 'g', it wants to remove all my packages?!
[10:48] <Belutz> Seveas, ok
[10:48] <Seveas> Toccy, and this one: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/supertux/supertux-data_0.1.2-3_all.deb
[10:49] <Toccy> Thanks. Both?
[10:49] <Seveas> yes
[10:49] <threeseas> Hello. I'm using ubuntu breezy and trying to get a wireless card wg311v2 to work. I understand it works out of the box on breezy but can't seem to get it to associate with an access point - that it is a configuration problem (according to man iwconfig --- but it doesn't further explain...
[10:49] <Toccy> Do I load the CD that I burn to into the Package Manager?
[10:49] <Seveas> maybe even more, the Ubuntu packaging system sort-of relies on an internet connection to find these things out
[10:49] <Toccy> Yea
[10:49] <Toccy> Do you recomend any other games?
[10:49] <Toccy> Anything offline
[10:49] <Seveas> you can simply put that on your ubuntu system and run the command: sudo dpkg -i supertux*.deb
[10:50] <vbgunz> anto9us: well I couldn't find it exactly but a search through it for 686 is not there :( I guess I am in the dust... PC's only about a year old... 2.6Ghz P4 1G RAM...
[10:50] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, do u have an access point?
[10:50] <Recyclable> erm
[10:50] <anto9us> vbgunz, then install 686 kernel
[10:51] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:51] <Nomad_01> Is it possible to use both a hardwired and wireless LAN connection at the same time?
[10:51] <Recyclable> how DO i delete  .xauthority and .ICEauthority from my homedir? yes, i'm a lowly noob :(
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, wep enabled or disabled?
[10:51] <Seveas> Recyclable, did you login already?
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: yeah sounds like a great idea... I just ghosted my entire root and home just a few minutes ago before logging on... How do I do it?
[10:51] <threeseas> disabled
[10:51] <Seveas> simply run rm ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: lets rock!
[10:51] <Recyclable> right
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: :P
[10:51] <anto9us> vbgunz, you can use synaptic
[10:51] <Seveas> (linux is case sensitive, beware)
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, are u next to it?
[10:51] <Recyclable> that's the command, yes? :P
[10:51] <vbgunz> anto9us: ok
[10:52] <Seveas> Recyclable, yes
[10:52] <Recyclable> okay
[10:52] <Recyclable> i'll try again :)
[10:52] <JDahl> are there any happy AMD64/Ubuntu users here? I installed Ubuntu on an AMD64, and Ubuntu crashes randomly quite often. The only non-default modules I installed are openafs-client and the restricted nvidia drivers. The openafs drivers seem quite buggy, but I dont that's the cause of the problem
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, are u close to the access point?
[10:52] <newbie> hello all
[10:52] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: mo and I'm not sure where it is but I can access it via windows well enough
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> k
[10:52] <HappyFool> JDahl: doh
[10:52] <vbgunz> anto9us: man... I searched for kernel under synaptic and came back with crazy hits...
[10:52] <anto9us> vbgunz, I can't see why your spec would be giving you any performance issues though
[10:52] <Nomad_01> JDahl: I run Ubuntu on my +3200 and I've never had a problem I hadn't caused myself ^_^
[10:52] <JDahl> HappyFool, :P
[10:53] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, have u opened the system administration networking window?
[10:53] <vbgunz> anto9us: I do run quite a few applications... Just trying to push it plus animations are not my cup of tea :P
[10:53] <m00se> JDahl: do you have dual channel memory?
[10:53] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:53] <newbie> not to bug anyone but I lost my sound after I pushed the mute button cannot take the mute off now
[10:54] <anto9us> vbgunz, package you need is linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
[10:54] <SDFH_Linux> is mplayer plugin for firefox available yet?
[10:54] <JDahl> m00se, I dont know... do I check that in the BIOS config?
[10:54] <vbgunz> ok
[10:54] <mattpj1> im having a problem installing java
[10:54] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, open properties
[10:54] <mattpj1> i got a error that i cant figure out
[10:54] <vbgunz> anto9us: I got two hits... one linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and the other linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp
[10:54] <m00se> JDahl: my bios prints it on boot. something like "detected 1024mb single-channel memory"
[10:55] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: done
[10:55] <Tokenizer> is there a way to speed up ubuntu .... ie disabling all the special effects of window miniming...... etc.....
[10:55] <vbgunz> anto9us: multiple processors
[10:55] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, in the drop down network name got anything?
[10:55] <Recyclable> argh i'm a fucknut, i didn't write the command down...
[10:55] <m00se> JDahl: it seems that some motherboards don't work properly with certain memory modules in dual mode
[10:55] <anto9us> vbgunz, smp is for multiple processors, I guess you only have one though
[10:55] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes, linksys
[10:55] <Recyclable> someone quote me it again?
[10:55] <m00se> JDahl: i had similar problems: lots of segfaults, kernel oopses
 simply run rm ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, device is enabled
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> ?
[10:56] <Recyclable> ty
[10:56] <JDahl> m00se, I bought an HP Pavilion PC - XP runs fine
[10:56] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:56] <mattpj1> ???????
[10:56] <m00se> JDahl: i had crashes both in ubuntu and in xp
[10:56] <vbgunz> anto9us: yeah sorry I asked early... I do only have one... am downloading it now... just curious *but* what if it wrong? What if I really should have a 386 instead? Will the system break down? It's no biggie, I just ghosted but am curious...
[10:56] <redguy> ..........
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, does the linksys do dhcp?
[10:57] <socketbind> bye, have a nice time
[10:57] <HappyFool> mattpj1: tell us what the error is -- preferably using the pastebin (don't paste errors here)
[10:57] <anto9us> vbgunz, you can opt to boot off any installed kernel from the grub menu, if one doesn't work, use the other :)
[10:57] <vbgunz> anto9us: oh ok
[10:57] <vbgunz> anto9us: t - 10
[10:57] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: I do not know, probably, but properties is set to dhcp
[10:57] <newbie> how would one reinstall a driver
[10:57] <mattpj1> 1 sec
[10:57] <puff> Thinking about upgrading to breezy,  how reliable is it?
[10:58] <ReleaseX> B_166-er-x: thanks that worked
[10:58] <vbgunz> anto9us: it's done,. I will let you know of the results :P
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, put a static IP to see if it makes a difference
[10:58] <vbgunz> brb
[10:58] <B_166-er-x> ReleaseX np :)
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, and subnet mask (automatic) and gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:58] <mattpj1> http://pastebin.com/410326
[10:58] <dwt> Hi there!
[10:59] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, 1.1 or whatever is the address of the linksys
[10:59] <dwt> Hey, I'm a bit stumped by a ubuntu 5.10 installation
[10:59] <HappyFool> JDahl: you've tested with the  nvidia / openafs drivers out ?
[10:59] <dwt> as the first user is not able to to use sudo
[11:00] <dwt> also there seems to be no group "admin" which is referenced all over the wiki
[11:00] <mattpj1> also i installed java 1.5.0 using their way to install instead of ubuntu's way i read about and it was sucessful and i still cant use webpages that require java or programs that require java
[11:00] <JDahl> HappyFool, just about to write that. I removed the openafs kernel driver module... how about the restricted nvidia drivers - are they are kernel modules also? I thought X lived in userspace
[11:00] <HappyFool> mattpj1: you need the 'build-essential' package
[11:00] <ph8> hi all
[11:00] <ph8> worked perfectly, thanks for that
[11:00] <HappyFool> JDahl: there's an 'nvidia.ko' too
[11:00] <martincho> how can I make that esb don't be loaded when ubuntu 5.04 start?
[11:00] <ph8> now, whenever I try to print i get permission denied to /dev/usb/lp0
[11:00] <JDahl> HappyFool, I will get rid of that also, then
[11:00] <ph8> can anyone tell me what the perms should be?
[11:00] <HappyFool> JDahl: look in /etc/modules -- it's added by the 'nvidia-glx enable' (or whatever the command is)
[11:01] <dabaR> martincho: you mean esd?
[11:01] <dwt> I since "hacked" the sudoers file to include that user, but recon that there is something wrong which should be fixed.
[11:01] <martincho> ah, yes
[11:01] <martincho> sound stuff
[11:01] <dwt> Can somebody give me a hint where to search for info on this?
[11:01] <HappyFool> dwt: did you do an 'expert' install?
[11:01] <Orunitia> any way to switch from kdm to gdm?
[11:01] <puff> How do I import my bookmarks from my old .mozilla into a new one?
[11:01] <dwt> the second try, after the first (normal) install had the same problem
[11:01] <_Caleb_> sup peeps
[11:02] <HappyFool> Orunitia: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' (that's a bit of a guess)
[11:02] <vbgunz> anto9us: I rebooted and uname -are and the kernel is 2.6.12-9-686... It doesn't seem to be acting wierd...
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, wher u at?
[11:02] <dabaR> martincho: it starts with gnome, not ubuntu. TO disable it, go System>Admin>sound, or System>Prefs>Sound somewhere, and disable sound server startup.
[11:02] <vbgunz> --are
[11:02] <vbgunz> -\are
[11:02] <mattpj1> ok well i just want to be able to use java now i got programs i installed that dont work and i cant use webpages i wanna use
[11:02] <Orunitia> HappyFool: Nice, thanks. That did it.
[11:02] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: I do not know what the IP address of the access point is
[11:02] <vbgunz> \ -are
[11:02] <martincho> dabaR, thanks, I'll try that
[11:02] <vbgunz> sorry
[11:02] <anto9us> vbgunz, no, it's the same stuff, just compiled under a pentium instead of a 686 and thus optimised for it
[11:03] <mattpj1> why cant they just not be gay with it and install java from the start if i wanted to build this whole system i would just go with gentoo and build from scratch
[11:03] <vbgunz> my dashr keeps turning into dashare
[11:03] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: address of the linksys
[11:03] <HappyFool> mattpj1: all i can tell you is that 'gcc' is missing in that error message; installing 'build-essential' will give you gcc
[11:03] <HappyFool> mattpj1: there are other ways to install java
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:03] <mattpj1> HappyFool i tried aptget crap
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, on what computer r u now
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> ?
[11:03] <anto9us> *386
[11:03] <vbgunz> anto9us: so no problems means I am ok and no big deal... cool~!
[11:03] <_Caleb_> ok how i install apache
[11:03] <_Caleb_> sude apt-get install apache doesnt work
[11:03] <mattpj1> happyfool i believe its installed i just wanna make it work now with programs
[11:03] <_Caleb_> lol
[11:04] <mattpj1> do i have to restart after i install it ?
[11:04] <azahid> can somebody tell me how setup usb printer with Opera browser. I can not print web pages with Opera
[11:04] <threeseas> bluefrog-10: on this one... via dialup
[11:04] <vbgunz> anto9us: ahh damn... the kernel killed vmware :P
[11:04] <_Caleb_> anyone?
[11:04] <_Caleb_> how to install apache
[11:04] <_Caleb_> ?
[11:04] <thrush> _Caleb_: apt-cache search apache does it find package?
[11:04] <Ropechoborra> Hi !
[11:04] <Nei> why does my aptitude want to remove all my packages when I use it :((
[11:04] <mattpj1> apache i believe is a program already in the synaptic manager
[11:05] <dabaR> mattpj1: cause you have no clue what you are talking about.
[11:05] <Boobek> re
[11:05] <Ropechoborra> I`ve installed Hoary and dont have sound... :(
[11:05] <_Caleb_> ahh
[11:05] <mdke> DUMB QUESTION: how do I schedule a cronjob for twice a day
[11:05] <dabaR> mattpj1: go ask sun why ubuntu does notcome with java, or wiindows for that matter.
[11:05] <_Caleb_> apache2 is what i need to ask for
[11:05] <_Caleb_> hehe
[11:05] <agilman> I just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't change resolution higher then 640 x 480. How do I fix that?
[11:05] <vbgunz> anto9us: I think I have to redo vmware :P but so far so good...
[11:05] <bluefrog-10> threeseas, reboot in windows. start run cmd ipconfig and note your ip address and all you the rest, gateway....
[11:05] <thrush> _Caleb_: apache or apache2 I believe both are in repo
[11:05] <mattpj1> dabeR i really dont care i just know all the other distros i had already had it in there
[11:06] <tris622ph> I just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't change resolution higher then 640 x 480. How do I fix that? <-- i have this problem too
[11:06] <mattpj1> without java its kinda pointless most programs i use run java
[11:06] <`ph8> thanks for that guys, worked nicely
[11:06] <anto9us> vbgunz, I've no experience of vmware
[11:06] <agilman> tris622ph, if I'll find a solution, I'll share :)
[11:06] <_Caleb_> wth
[11:06] <dabaR> mattpj1: well, just use the other ones if they better suite your needs.
[11:06] <mdke> mattpj1, go to http://help.ubuntu.com and then to the starterguide, and then follow the simple instructions for installing java
[11:06] <dabaR> its a legality issue.
[11:06] <_Caleb_> it asking for the ubuntu cd
[11:06] <_Caleb_> :/
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, what'sur pb?
[11:06] <`ph8> now i keep getting permission denied ot /dev/usb/lp0 when i try to print - can anyone tell me what the perms should be?
[11:06] <vbgunz> tris622ph: you have a 64MB pentium graphics card internal... something along those lines?
[11:06] <`ph8> * to
[11:06] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: ?
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, with vmware
[11:07] <thrush> _Caleb_: /etc/apt/sources.list #comment out CDROM entry
[11:07] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: I just upgraded the kernel from 386 to 686 and can no longer run vmware... chances are I'll need to reinstall?
[11:07] <_Caleb_> ok
[11:07] <thrush> _Caleb_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <nalioth> vbgunz: yes you will
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, vmware yes
[11:07] <Recyclable> erm
[11:07] <Recyclable> it didn't work
[11:07] <matthew_w> hey - is joh6nn still here?
[11:07] <vbgunz> yup... feared that :P
[11:07] <Recyclable> i did it as sudo also
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, takes 1 min to do it
[11:07] <Recyclable> still rasps midchimes
[11:08] <agilman> and another thing... how do I login as root?
[11:08] <matthew_w> I managed to get the damned machine to boot into knoppix but the ubuntu install cd just crashes the system
[11:08] <bastardkestrel> hey what is the package called that has the compiler?
[11:08] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: one question... was 686 compiled with gcc 3.4 or 4?
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, but u will have to dl linux-header for ur ^*^
[11:08] <mdke> agilman, sudo -i
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> 686
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> 3.4
[11:08] <bastardkestrel> !compiler
[11:08] <ubotu> bastardkestrel: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:08] <mdke> agilman, then your user's password
[11:08] <agilman> thanks mdke
[11:08] <mdke> np
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, no 4
[11:08] <HappyFool> vbgunz: i suspect all breezy kernel images were compiled with gcc-3.4; the -k7 was
[11:08] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, export CC=....
[11:08] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: yes, I remember that too... I'll wrote me a little walkthrough really quick... will have to modify it for kernel 686 then
[11:08] <mdke> agilman, more info on the wiki at the RootSudo page
[11:09] <agilman> k
[11:09] <`ph8> now i keep getting permission denied to /dev/usb/lp0 when i try to print - can anyone tell me what the perms should be?
[11:09] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: thanks bro, I know the export trick before installation ;)
[11:09] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, what vmware do u install?
[11:09] <Recyclable> Seveas: I did it, sudo also, but it still rasps mid chimes and locks up.
[11:09] <vbgunz> HappyFool: whats up, you think all kernels are 3.4 and 686 is 4?
[11:09] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: workstation 5
[11:09] <HappyFool> `ph8: what are they currently? (ls -l /dev/usb/lp0)
[11:09] <HappyFool> vbgunz: no, i think all are gcc-3.4
[11:09] <`ph8> crw-rw root/lp
[11:09] <`ph8> if memory serves
[11:09] <dabaR> [15:59] CWC-DanB[66298]<PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:09] <dabaR> Diane Needed username and password for the account. Verified security, reset password with permission. Educated on secret question and changing password. Confirmed able to log in.
[11:09] <`ph8> which seems fine
[11:10] <`ph8> but it's causing errors
[11:10] <dabaR> sorry
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, not the latest rc1?
[11:10] <HappyFool> `ph8: how about adding your user to the lp group ?
[11:10] <Aven> hello
[11:10] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: No I got the beta form in email *but* didn't bother... is it good?
[11:10] <Aven> I keep getting those weird damn sounds
[11:10] <Aven> every 10 minutes or something
[11:10] <Aven> how can I stop it?
[11:10] <vbgunz> HappyFool: yeah I remember when I installed vmware on the 386 the kernel was built with gcc 3.4
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, yes but u might have pb to install it in ubu, stick with ur 5
[11:10] <asimismo> Hey all. I'm trying to do a reinstall and the partitioner doesn't seem to forget my LVM and RAID settings. How do I get rid of them? I'm not having any luck via the partitioner itself.
[11:11] <bmk789> bluefrog-10: got my mp3 working, thanks
[11:11] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: yup, workstation 5 works for me :)
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> bmk789, k
[11:11] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: (back) I have to work, too. :-)
[11:11] <`ph8> whoops
[11:11] <`ph8> Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": Permission denied
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, stick with it
[11:11] <agilman> tris622ph, Im gonna try installing the nvidia kernel, that might fix the resolution problem
[11:11] <`ph8> still
[11:11] <vbgunz> anto9us: thanks again man1
[11:11] <_Caleb_> ok
[11:11] <HappyFool> `ph8: your user is a member of the lp group?
[11:11] <_Caleb_> and sudo apt-get upgrade upgrades the kernel and shit right?
[11:11] <eliphas__> someone knows vmplayer?
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> `ph8, id user   lpadmin is one of ur group?
[11:12] <jd_> re
[11:12] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: whats the major difference? In my email, they mentioned running ghost images and microsoft machines... is that it?
[11:12] <`ph8> i just added myself in /etc/group HappyFool
[11:12] <vbgunz> no performace gains or soundblaster fixes?
[11:12] <`ph8> I thought cupsys was the only important one?
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> vbgunz, basically yes maybe some more stuff.
[11:12] <`ph8> and yes i'm in lpadmin as well
[11:12] <sorush20> how do I add new actions to my right click for file types.. I want to be able to extract more than one zip file into one folder.. ?
[11:13] <caonex_> anybody here using the ati modules and made it work with libopengl from ati not from xlibmesa?
[11:13] <vbgunz> bluefrog-10: cool, I'll mess with the stable once out ;)
[11:13] <HappyFool> `ph8: sorry, i was taking a guess; obviously an incorrect one
[11:13] <asimismo> Anyone know how to clear my LVM and RAID settings without the partitioner?
[11:14] <fanopnaic> clear?
[11:14] <vbgunz> oh I have a question that has been bugging me since I first started with Ubuntu... Whats with the desktop icons? I mean, if I shutdown the PC, plug in some USB drives, cameras, walkmans and Memory sticks... next boot, they all overlap one another and several other icons on the desktop... this cannot be normal... any fix for this?
[11:15] <`ph8> still a good one
[11:15] <`ph8> what about a chown to henri/lp?
[11:15] <`ph8> but grrr, it should work - i've made no changes
[11:15] <HappyFool> `ph8: it looks like cup connects to the printer on your behalf
[11:16] <Ropechoborra> I dont have sound in my PC... I guess i have to configure the sound card... how do i do that?
[11:16] <HappyFool> !tell Ropechoborra about sound
[11:17] <thrush> Ropechoborra: do u have onboard sound and a soundcard?
[11:17] <Boobek> !tell BOobek about soung
[11:17] <eSPete> how do i restore files from fat32 in linux?
[11:17] <Boobek> !tell BOobek about sound
[11:18] <Aven> hey
[11:18] <Aven> what's the command to install a bin file again?
[11:18] <Boobek> wow:>
[11:18] <asimismo> Ok, does nobody use LVM and RAID?
[11:18] <`ph8> but it should just be a case of: correct printer, add it, sorted right?
[11:18] <`ph8> Aven: ./file.bin
[11:18] <Aven> oh, lol
[11:18] <HappyFool> !tell eSPete about windowsdrives
[11:18] <`ph8> s/correct/connect
[11:18] <Boobek> asimismo, I used to use LVM
[11:18] <asimismo> Boobek: Why used to?
[11:19] <Aven> it says 'command not found' ;\
[11:19] <eSPete> HappyFool, yes it is a windows drive
[11:19] <HappyFool> Aven: try 'sh ./file.bin'
[11:19] <Boobek> but the lvm partition must format to other partition
[11:19] <Boobek> i think
[11:19] <HappyFool> eSPete: read the link ubotu sent you
[11:19] <anto9us> asimismo, I reconfigured mine in the installer, worked ok, you can try using parted or a gui version like gparted or qtparted
[11:19] <Boobek> but I a beginner
[11:19] <Aven> HappyFool: it says "cannot execute binary file"
[11:20] <asimismo> anto9us: I can't boot. I want to reinstall but I can't clear out the old settings, even via the installer.
[11:20] <budluva> anyone know of any good gfx benchmarking tools for nix?
[11:20] <HappyFool> Aven: hmm. how about 'file ./file.bin'
[11:20] <Boobek> asimismo, I think the rescue partition is good, and I make it a part of the lvm and ...
[11:20] <`ph8> ok, if i 777 it, it works
[11:20] <`ph8> madness
[11:20] <HappyFool> Aven: will tell you what kind of file it is
[11:20] <eSPete> wops...
[11:21] <Aven> ok, it says:
[11:21] <Aven> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[11:21] <Aven> so? :P
[11:21] <HappyFool> Aven: 'chmod a+x file.bin; ./file.bin'
[11:22] <luisito> hello, hello
[11:22] <anto9us> asimismo, installer cleared out old raid settings for me, was a bit troublesomet though, keep trying
[11:22] <luisito> nalioth is here?
[11:22] <Aven> HappyFool: done..
[11:22] <asimismo> anto9us: Oh, I have! Try to clear settings. Error. Reboot. Try again.
[11:22] <luisito> is nalioth here?
[11:22] <HappyFool> Aven: the bit after the semicolon should have launched the program
[11:23] <HappyFool> luisito: if he is he'll respond
[11:23] <nalioth> luisito: yes
[11:23] <Aven> how do I install it first?
[11:23] <luisito> HappyFool, I know, but the first question was bad formulated, I think :P
[11:23] <anto9us> asimismo, what's the error?
[11:24] <HappyFool> Aven: i don't know; what happens when you run it?
[11:24] <eSPete> the link has nothing about restoring deleted files
[11:24] <HappyFool> Aven: as in, when you do   ./file.bin
[11:24] <Aven> it doesn't run
[11:24] <Aven> says 'command not found'
[11:24] <budluva> anyone here with a geforce card know roughly how many fps you get in glxgears?
[11:24] <Aven> ok, how do I install it in Synaptic?
[11:24] <HappyFool> Aven: after you've done 'chmod a+x file.bin' ? (file.bin must be replaced with the filename in question)
[11:25] <thrush> eSPete: maybe try a dos boot disk and undelete?
[11:25] <nalioth> luisito: did you have a question or were just wondering if i were awake?
[11:25] <asimismo> anto9us: Currently 'The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed.
[11:25] <Aven> still says 'command not found;
[11:25] <HappyFool> Aven: what is the full error?
[11:26] <HappyFool> Aven: and what are you trying to install?
[11:26] <Aven> realplayer
[11:26] <luisito> hi nalioth, I formatted a hardrive in fat32 with the windows 98 floppy, I thought it was the easiest way, but there was the hoary installation and the MBR wasn't cleared and keeps asking for grub and gives me a n error
[11:26] <rohal> each time i run apt-get i have to export http_proxy......where should i add them so that apt-get autodetects it???
[11:26] <luisito> nalioth, how I clear the MBR?
[11:26] <eSPete> thrush, that's an option, but if there was a was to pull this from within linux it would be nice
[11:27] <thrush> eSPete: im sure linux has file recovery tools but ive never looked into them sorry ;)
[11:27] <nalioth> luisito: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:27] <Noata> Aven; have you tried to see if their are instructions on google first
[11:27] <anto9us> asimismo, you should be adding the ext3 to the raid device md0 or whatever
[11:28] <erisco> i am having trouble starting limewire, i followed the guide and everything is configured correctly except something about runLime.sh
[11:28] <asimismo> anto9us: If I try to do guided partitioning to overwrite everything it says, 'Error informing the kernel about modifications to partiion ...part5 - Device or resource busy.'
[11:28] <towsonu2003> hi
[11:28] <erisco> it wont boot the program
[11:28] <rider> hey @ll, I'm really noob on linux
[11:28] <erisco> wether it is the sh or limewire itself
[11:28] <erisco> any ideas?
[11:28] <Noata> Aven, first see if it is a version that is linux compatible
[11:28] <rider> i have installed xfce
[11:28] <eric_> could some one point me in the right direction for reconfiguring a sound card? Please?
[11:28] <Aven> it is
[11:28] <rider> but i do not know what should i do know?
[11:28] <asimismo> anto9us: I'm just trying a simple install hoping to overwrite the md and lvm data. Because it keeps remembering my previous settings
[11:28] <rider> nothing happned
[11:29] <Tokenizer> i started xcompmgr (a service to make transparent windows .. etc)...... how to i stop this service at Terminal?
[11:29] <towsonu2003> question: what does "initializing kernel log" in boot time corresponds (to which file in /var/log/) ?
[11:29] <Noata> hmm the site you downloaded didnt tell you ... what type of linux do you have
[11:30] <Noata> i mean aven what linux do you have
[11:30] <HappyFool> Aven: can i pm you?
[11:30] <Aven> HF: yeah
[11:30] <iNSaNe> dforge.org
[11:30] <anto9us> asimismo, have you checked for and deleted the md?
[11:31] <luisito> nalioth, ok. Now, other think, when I mount the disk with winmac_fstab, it gives the partition a name like "0 GB Disk (hdb1)": 1- can I change that name?, 2- how do I remove the desktop icon?. Sorry for all the questions and thank you. ;)
[11:31] <asimismo> In the partitioner? Yes. Same error (the latter one)
[11:32] <anto9us> asimismo, I confess I've no experience of LVM, only RAID
[11:32] <asimismo> auth00: Is there another way to just blast it?
[11:32] <nalioth> luisito: i'm not the only one in here that can help you. you also have a man in your computer that will help you. open a console and type "man fstab"
[11:32] <towsonu2003> sorry to repeat, won't do it again: question: what does "initializing kernel log" in boot time corresponds (to which file in /var/log/) ?
[11:32] <crimsun> towsonu2003: starting sysklogd
[11:32] <xkuseme> anybody know if there is a book around that explains gimp?
[11:33] <nalioth> xkuseme: yes there is. look at www.gimp.org for the link
[11:33] <luisito> nalioth, ok, thank you.
[11:33] <asimismo> auto9us: They're giving me similar errors. Where do they store their data? Even when I reinstall and try to claim the whole disk it complains
[11:33] <xkuseme> nalioth, thanks
[11:33] <anto9us> xkuseme, there's a web tutorial called grokking the gimp which I recall is quite good
[11:33] <rohal> what should i do for this error         The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BC95B8B5CF6984C
[11:34] <rohal> i am getting it during apt-get update
[11:34] <nalioth> rohal: ignore it
[11:34] <towsonu2003> crimsun: to which file does that write the log in? syslog? (mine fails everytime i boot, that's why i'm asking)
[11:34] <rohal> nalioth: but i want the package from this site?
[11:34] <xkuseme> anto9us, yeah but i wanted something that i can read on the bus
[11:35] <anto9us> asimismo, have you got a live cd?
[11:35] <asimismo> Yeah
[11:35] <nalioth> rohal: that is up to you, the error wont keep your apt-get from getting things
[11:35] <asimismo> auto9us: That is, yeah
[11:36] <asimismo> anto9us: Oh, that's an n. Sorry, bad font!
[11:36] <anto9us> xkuseme, it's available in hard copy too
[11:36] <rohal> nalioth: but there are some package which are available only on this site....& i am able to connect to it through browser
[11:37] <crimsun> towsonu2003: multiple files in /var/log/
[11:37] <anto9us> asimismo, boot off that and try parted
[11:37] <nalioth> rohal: the error only means the maintainer hasnt given his gpg key to ubuntu for inclusion in your apt
[11:37] <asimismo> anto9us: parted is an app?
[11:38] <fmasi> Helo i like to know what is the program used to instal softwer via text mode in gui form not the apt comant line
[11:38] <anto9us> asimismo, yes, it gives partition information and editing
[11:38] <asimismo> Ok, will try
[11:38] <asimismo> anto9us: Thanks! Gotta run...
[11:40] <towsonu2003> crimson: I guess i better go take a look at sysklogd goolge man pages :) thanks for the help.
[11:40] <Trenton`> ohmm
[11:40] <Trenton`> what just happened
[11:40] <Trenton`> all the sudden
[11:40] <Trenton`> my taskbar went away
[11:41] <stpere> gnome-panel probably crashed
[11:41] <Trenton`> anyway to restart it safely?
[11:41] <HappyFool> all your taskbar are belong to us!
[11:41] <stpere> ALT+F2 and then type gnome-panel
[11:42] <nalioth> Trenton`: hit alt-f2 and type gnome-panel
[11:42] <Trenton`> nogo
[11:42] <Trenton`> >.<
[11:42] <Trenton`> oh well
[11:42] <Trenton`> how do I restart safelt?
[11:42] <Trenton`> from hotkeys.
[11:43] <Ropechoborra> Need help... I cant configure X to run at 1024x768 =( i`ve already configured xorg and dont know what to do...
[11:44] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, put resolutions in descending order under and make sure monitor is set properly
[11:44] <anto9us> *under default depth
[11:45] <shtron> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and I don't have sound on media players (xine-ui or xmms). can anyone help me?
[11:45] <Ropechoborra> anto9us descending ?? like 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ?? I`ve done that already. The monitor i think its right. I think the problem is de Video Card... it is not listed in xorg
[11:46] <ckrueger> anyone here good with ipods/gtkpod?
[11:46] <ckrueger> because i just bought an ipod shuffle and for some reason every track synced to the thing cuts off after about 2 min
[11:46] <ckrueger> the file size on the device is correct
[11:46] <ckrueger> but even when i go to play it within XMMS or something of the kind directly from the ipod, it cuts off after 2 min
[11:46] <dwt> Sorry, can anybody tell me if there's something wrong with my ubuntu install if there is no "admin" group around?
[11:47] <dwt> (I think it should, at least I read so on the wiki)
[11:47] <anto9us> Ropechoborra,  you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:47] <hurrrrrrrrr> does hedgehog come with emacs?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> dwt That happended to me... did you put the password for the root during the install ?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> anto9us No... I`ll
[11:47] <plumpkin> i'm trying to set up my rt2500 based wireless card....  i followed the howto in the ubuntu wiki, yet something isnt right.  using the RaConfig2005 utility, i can see my status as connected, i see lights on my wireless card, yet it doesnt seem to work, any idea where to start?
[11:47] <Ropechoborra> what does it do?
[11:48] <hurrrrrrrrr> does anyone know how to get emacs running in 5.1?
[11:48] <anto9us> ubotu tell dwt about sudo
[11:48] <HappyFool> hurrrrrrrrr: install emacs21
[11:48] <dwt> Ropechoborra: yes we did
[11:48] <Ropechoborra> dwt thats the problem ! :)
[11:49] <eSPete> anyone knows a undelete/recover tool for fat32 for linux?
[11:49] <_gueb_> lo all
[11:49] <dwt> Well, but there's still no admin group around
[11:49] <dwt> shouldn't it? and is there something seriously broken without it?
[11:49] <shtron> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and I don't have sound on media players (xine-ui or xmms). can anyone help me?
[11:49] <anto9us> dwt your first user has admin privilages
[11:49] <electron> how do I setup a printer on ubuntu via command line so that I it can be accessed over the network?
[11:49] <Ropechoborra> Im new at linux but, try to install it again and dont put the root password. Then after the install it will ask to creat a new user with a password (thats included on the admin group)
[11:50] <electron> It's a Cannon BJC-2100SP
[11:50] <dwt> anto9us: well, theoretically yest, but not in this install. (well, now it at least has sudo rights, but because I hacked the sudoers file by hadn)
[11:50] <crimsun> shtron: did you just install Breezy?
[11:50] <electron> I need to install the printer first
[11:50] <dwt> anto9us: and I guess there's still a setting misssing somewhere
[11:51] <cemm> hi, ihave 7cd images of debian sarge, how can i combine this iso's to write them'all to a single dvd ?
[11:51] <shtron> crimsun, no - hoary, breezy was too buggy. I tried to get back to hoary and don't have sound since then...
[11:51] <dwt> anto9us: oh, and the directions given on RootSudo concerning Breezy for adding a user don't seem to work here
[11:51] <_gueb_> telecommande with bluetooth exist under linux?
[11:51] <anto9us> dwt, sudo users-admin works?
[11:52] <electron> How do I setup a printer in Ubuntu without doing it in X?
[11:52] <delta> cya
[11:52] <hurrrrrrrrr> thanks
[11:52] <jaggedpulse> i just installed ubuntu breezy as a fresh boot on a new computer and i can't seem to set up the wireless or play DVDs
[11:52] <crimsun> shtron: you should really try Breezy. Sound is a bit more difficult to debug in Hoary.
[11:52] <Inchabod> lol
[11:52] <dwt> anto9us: is that a command I should try?
[11:52] <Inchabod> I died
[11:52] <electron> please stop ignoring me!
[11:53] <dwt> anto9us: dang, dumb me
[11:53] <_gueb_> electron try howto setup a printer on google.com/linux
[11:53] <redguy> electron: you might try using lynx elinks or any other text www browser to connect to localhost:631 where the cups configpage is
[11:53] <dwt> anto9us: of coursse it works cause I hacked the sudoers file to include the first user - by hand
[11:53] <dwt> anto9us: but I guess that that's not the only setting missing
[11:53] <anto9us> dwt, that will allow you to set privileges for the users, tick all the boxes
[11:54] <Ropechoborra> anto9us what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do ? Return to standar config??
[11:54] <bluefrog-10> yes
[11:54] <Ropechoborra> But... i dont think that works... I`ve just installed it
[11:54] <shtron> crimsun: when I install breezy I had the following phenomenon: the network didn't start during boot and I had to run "dhclient" after each boot. but after i did, some programs took about 5 min. to load.
[11:54] <dwt> anto9us: we did - but there's none that resembles anything like "Executing system administration tasks" which is mentioned on the RootSudo page
[11:55] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, no, it's a multi-choice wizard
[11:55] <dwt> anto9us: either that page is wrong and needs repairing, or somethings wrong here
[11:55] <anto9us> dwt, click user, then properties
[11:55] <dwt> yes
[11:55] <dwt> anto9us: I did
[11:55] <redguy> electron: or do what _gueb_ told you
[11:55] <DrZeus> hi all.  Im trying to install limimlib2 and get a "missing X includes" error
[11:55] <anto9us> then user privileges?
[11:55] <Ropechoborra> dwt I`ve found multiple errors that were fixed after a reinstall xD
[11:56] <mth`MAW> n8
[11:56] <dwt> Ropechoborra: well... alreaddy did that twice....
[11:56] <DrZeus> I searched the xlibs-dev in apt-get but is not in the repositories.  Where can I find that
[11:56] <dwt> anto9us: there's stuff to allow me to send faxes, and use audio devices and modems and scanners...
[11:56] <towsonu2003> ok it seems i have a problem with my kern.log (it's empty!). how o diagnose and fix it? any ideas?? thanks in advance... background: on boot time, "initializing kernel log" fails...
[11:56] <dwt> but nothing concerning sysstem administration.
[11:56] <ckrueger> anyone here use an ipod shuffle with gtkpod?
[11:56] <_willcooke_> any mysql experts in?  I've asked on #mysql - no joy....
[11:56] <Ropechoborra> dwt did you tryed to skip the root password on setup ??
[11:56] <HappyFool> DrZeus: try x-window-system-dev
[11:57] <jaggedpulse> Ok, question: DO i neeed to install a wireless driver on Breezy???
[11:57] <jaggedpulse> or is it already there?
[11:57] <sorush20>
[11:57] <DrZeus> HappyFool, will try it
[11:57] <dwt> Ropechoborra: We first did a normal install and ended up without sudo rights and a disabled root account - so the system was unusable
[11:57] <HappyFool> DrZeus: also look at 'apt-cache depends libimlib2' (or whatever it was) for ideas of what -dev packages to install
[11:57] <dwt> Ropechoborra: after that we did an expert install and enabled root
[11:57] <flogiston> I can't run alsaconf.
[11:57] <anto9us> dwt, I'm just clutching at straws but try sudo -s and then users-admin and see what that shows you
[11:57] <DrZeus> HappyFool, the x-window-system-dev is not there
[11:58] <Ropechoborra> dwt after the usual install you can get the root password to enableit ... so there you got the root and the admin group :)
[11:58] <HappyFool> DrZeus: then you need to setup your repos properly
[11:58] <HappyFool> !tell DrZeus about repos
[11:58] <DrZeus> I have the repos fine
[11:58] <DrZeus> even updated
[11:58] <dwt> Ropechoborra: and subsequently hacked /etc/sudoers to include the current user
[11:59] <towsonu2003> repeating as usual, don't kick me :) : it seems i have a problem with my kern.log (it's empty!). how o diagnose and fix it? any ideas?? thanks in advance... background: on boot time, "initializing kernel log" fails...
[11:59] <dwt> anto9us: :( same as before, no change here
[11:59] <flogiston> I had put one soundcard into my computer ran alsaconf and used it. But when i took it out and wanted to use my intergrated sound alsaconf wouldn't run. I have alsa-utils installed
[11:59] <lanir> hi , is ubuntu comes with xinetd ?
[11:59] <Ropechoborra> dwt but... wich is your problem... the admin group ?
[11:59] <HappyFool> DrZeus: x-window-system-dev is in the 'main' repository. if you cannot find it, there is an error in your setup or in the repository mirror you are accessing
[11:59] <anto9us> dwt, is a re-install out of the question?
[12:00] <DrZeus> HappyFool, really...
[12:00] <towsonu2003> lanir: no, but it's in the repositories
[12:00] <DrZeus> :(


[01:25] <mup> PR snapd#11144 opened: packaging: merge 2.53.4 (and also 2.53.3) changelogs back to master <Simple 😃> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11144>
[01:35] <amurray> ijohnson[m]: is that the right LP bug number in the 2.53.3/4 changelog?
[06:54] <mborzecki> morning
[08:06] <pstolowski> hey
[08:40] <mborzecki> heya
[09:13] <mborzecki> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11138 needs a 2nd review
[09:13] <mup> PR #11138: tests/core/kernel-and-base-single-reboot-failover, tests/lib/fakestore: verify failover scenario <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11138>
[09:17] <mup> PR snapd#11126 closed: tests: verify that simultaneous refresh of kernel and base triggers a single reboot only <Squash-merge> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11126>
[10:55] <mborzecki> heh, so snap-mgmt fails on fedora 35 now, that's because /var/lib/snapd/snap is a bind mount of itself, which is fine because we accounted for that in the script, but the entry in proc/self/mountinfo is: `749 63 0:31 /root/var/lib/snapd/snap /var/lib/snapd/snap rw,relatime shared:1 - btrfs /dev/sda5 rw,seclabel,compress=zstd:1,space_cache,subvolid=256,subvol=/root`and we looked for ` var/lib/snapd/snap /var/lib/snapd/snap` because nobody
[10:55] <mborzecki> guessed there would be some magical /root btrfs subvolume
[11:47] <mup> PR snapd#11072 closed: usersession/client: provide a way for client to send messages to a subset of users <refresh app awareness> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11072>
[12:22] <mup> PR snapd#11141 closed: data/env: improve fish shell env setup <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11141>
[12:26] <pstolowski> jamesh: thanks for approving the notifications PR, https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11066 would be next in the queue when you have a moment for re-review
[12:26] <mup> PR #11066: usersession: implement method to close notifications via usersession REST API <refresh app awareness> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11066>
[12:28] <abeato> hey, how is usually snap-confine debugged/tested, without bind-mounting?
[12:29] <mborzecki> abeato: depends on the distro, for fedora/arch/opensuse i usually just `cd cmd/snap-confine && make hack -j`
[12:29] <mborzecki> on ubuntu/debian you'd probably want to disable reexec (SNAPD_REEXEC=0 IIRC)
[12:30] <abeato> mborzecki, thanks, will try those bits
[14:53] <mup> PR snapd#11145 opened: tests/main/generic-unregister: test re-registration if not blocked <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11145>
[14:54] <jawn-smith> I know I've been kind of a pain lately, sorry about that, but it appears that workflows need approval again for PR 11052
[14:54] <mup> PR #11052: tests: ensure snapd can be downloaded as a module <Squash-merge> <Created by atesburak> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11052>
[15:40] <mup> Bug #1953172 opened: Find a better handling of /etc/localtime symlink on Ubuntu Core <Snappy:New for valentin.david> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953172>
[15:43] <mup> Bug #1953172 changed: Find a better handling of /etc/localtime symlink on Ubuntu Core <Snappy:New for valentin.david> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953172>
[15:49] <mup> Bug #1953172 opened: Find a better handling of /etc/localtime symlink on Ubuntu Core <Snappy:New for valentin.david> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953172>
[18:41] <mwleeds[m]> Hi folks, anyone know if checking pid cgroup membership is the official way to check if the current process is running under snap?
[18:42] <mwleeds[m]> That is what xdg-desktop-portal does but thought I'd try to confirm because I'm working on code that's meant to work with Flatpak portals but ideally it should work with snap too since that uses the same portals.
[18:45] <ijohnson[m]> mwleeds: yes that is correct snaps should be in a snap.foo cgroup essentially
[18:46] <mwleeds[m]> thanks
[19:57] <mup> PR snapcraft#3602 closed: spread: switch to yarn for electron-builder test <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3602>
[20:35] <mup> PR snapd#11137 closed: snapdtool, many: support additional key/value flags in info file <Simple 😃> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11137>
[20:50] <mup> PR snapd#11052 closed: tests: ensure snapd can be downloaded as a module <Squash-merge> <Created by atesburak> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11052>
[21:09] <jawn-smith> ijohnson[m]: thanks so much for merging that PR!
[22:54] <jawn-smith> ijohnson[m]: I'm actually now a little confused by some of the behavior in the latest snapd concerning validation. It seems like I can no longer use the --snap flag in ubuntu-image with a grade higher than dangerous.
[22:55] <jawn-smith> Is that the intended behavior? The value of the validation flag does not affect the outcome of the command
[22:55] <jawn-smith> (pinging you as I see you discussing this in bug 1933665
[22:55] <mup> Bug #1933665: Refresh Control is not supported by ubuntu-image <snapd:Fix Committed by pedronis> <Snap Store Server:Invalid> <Ubuntu Image:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1933665>
[23:02] <jawn-smith> This previously worked in ubuntu-image when we were pulling in a version of snapd that was built in August. Currently digging through source code to see what's changed
[23:14] <ijohnson[m]> jawn-smith: yeah not gonna lie this whole situation around not supporting refresh control is extremely confusing and frustrating because we keep getting pinged about it and I assume you keep getting pinged about as well
[23:14] <ijohnson[m]> Really AFAICT it should work in snap prepare-image code to provide an extra snap with grade secured or grade signed as long as that snap is an asserted one
[23:14] <jawn-smith> ijohnson[m]: that is accurate
[23:14] <ijohnson[m]> So I am lost why folks keep saying this doesn't work
[23:15] <jawn-smith> well previously it didn't have to be asserted, which is really all I'm trying to check in on
[23:16] <jawn-smith> let me assert hello in my model assertion real quick to make sure that works, but AFAICT you're right about it working if it's asserted.
[23:16] <ijohnson[m]> I also did test this multiple times with the legacy ubuntu-image but I suppose maybe now folks are using the new Go based ubuntu-image
[23:16] <ijohnson[m]> oh what do you mean it didn't have to be asserted?
[23:17] <ijohnson[m]> if the grade is signed or secured then yes it is 100% expected that an unasserted snap is not allowed
[23:17] <ijohnson[m]> that's like one of the key parts of the model grade
[23:18] <jawn-smith> right okay, so previously if I didn't have "hello" listed in the model assertion I could still call ubuntu-image snap assert.model --snap=hello and it would get included in the resulting image
[23:18] <jawn-smith> That still works for core18 image
[23:18] <jawn-smith> s/image/images
[23:19] <ijohnson[m]> ah okay so to be clear, the grade signed/secured stuff only applies to uc20
[23:20] <jawn-smith> okay that's good to know, thanks.
[23:22] <jawn-smith> However, if a snap is asserted it shouldn't have to be separately specified with --snap, right?
[23:24] <ijohnson[m]> so here's the thing, in your model assertion you list what snaps are required to be in the image. If you specify some snap in the model assertion and do not provide it with --snap, then snapd will try to download that snap from the store and include it - in this case it is an asserted snap that gets included from whatever channel
[23:24] <ijohnson[m]> if you include in your model assertion a snap that is not uploaded to the store at all (i.e. some snap name that can't be found in the store by snapd), then without --snap you cannot build the image and snapd will complain
[23:25] <jawn-smith> ahhhh yes, I wasn't thinking of the local snap use case
[23:25] <jawn-smith> okay great, I have a couple of things to test, but it sounds like everything is working as it's supposed to
[23:25] <ijohnson[m]> if you include in your model assertion a snap that is not uploaded to the store and then also provide a snap that is not asserted by the store with --snap, then that snap gets included into the image as an unasserted snap - BUT ONLY if the image is uc16, uc18 or uc20 + grade dangerous, if it is uc20 and grade signed, then snapd complains
[23:26] <ijohnson[m]> if you include in your model assertion a snap that is uploaded to the store and you also provide it with --snap, then what happens next depends on whether that snap file is asserted and what model assertion you have
[23:27] <ijohnson[m]> if you are providing a local snap that is unasserted by the store, then this unasserted snap only gets included in the image if your model is grade dangerous on uc20 (or if the image is uc16/uc18)
[23:27] <ijohnson[m]> if you are providing a local snap that is asserted by the store, then this very specific version of the asserted snap will get included in the image no matter what grade of model assertion is being used on uc20 because that snap is asserted from the store
[23:28] <jawn-smith> Okay great, that all makes sense. One last question: where does the --validation flag fit into this? If set to ignore does it allow you to use unasserted snaps in a signed model?
[23:29] <ijohnson[m]> okay yes that new flag does play a part in this somewhat
[23:30] <ijohnson[m]> so if you provide the --validation=NOT-IGNORE (I forget the value that means use validation, don't ignore it), then if the grade of the model is dangerous, snapd will let you use --snap=unasserted-file.snap and put that in the image
[23:30] <jawn-smith> aha, that makes total sense. Thanks for clearing all that up
[23:31] <jawn-smith> it's --validation=enforce btw :)
[23:31] <ijohnson[m]> if you provide --validation=NOT-IGNORE, and your model assertion is signed or secured, then the snap you provide with --snap must be asserted, and AFAICT, snapd will let you overwrite what is in the validation assertion for that snap
[23:31] <ijohnson[m]> the big part of using --validation=NOT-IGNORE is that you typically do not want to use --validation=NOT-IGNORE with --snap, since that's kind of defeating the purpose
[23:31] <ijohnson[m]> ah yes thanks
[23:32] <jawn-smith> Okay, I'm going to test all that out manually and put it in some unit tests as well. Thanks!
[23:32] <ijohnson[m]> so the use case is to run --validation=enforce with no --snap arguments and then snapd will put into your image the specific revisions mentioned by that assertion
[23:32] <ijohnson[m]> if you are running --validation=enforce with some --snap arguments, it's a bit unclear what you are trying to accomplish
[23:33] <jawn-smith> Thanks for clearing all this up, I appreciate it.
[23:33] <ijohnson[m]> I think part of the confusion is that I have been trying to tell people "use --snap <specific-asserted-file>.snap because --validation=enforce isn't available yet" and I guess people have been not understanding what I mean by that
[23:34] <ijohnson[m]> okay sounds good, certainly reach out if you have more questions, it is indeed fairly complicated but my hope is that we can get --validation=enforce to work and then I can tell everybody to stop using --snap and just tell them to use --validation=enforce and the confusion can all go away 🙂
[23:57] <mup> PR snapcraft#3603 closed: [spike] new-snapcraft: fix execution in managed environment <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3603>


[01:03] <mark06> wgrant: ah, that's why it now worked then :)
[01:03] <mark06> wgrant: https://launchpad.net/pidgin++/trunk/15.1/+download/Pidgin%2B%2B%20with%20SkypeWeb%2015.1%20x86%20Source.zip
[01:04] <mark06> wgrant: do I need to test this for files with 1GiB or the timeout is good enough?
[01:06] <wgrant> mark06: I targeted the timeout at around 1GiB.
[01:07] <wgrant> It may not quite reach, but we'll find out.
[01:08] <mark06> ok, well thanks for implementing it then, wgrant, cjwatson
[01:08] <mark06> good night all
[01:11] <wgrant> Night.
[14:13] <zyga> hi, what can I do to increase a priority of a particular build in the queue?
[14:14] <zyga> specifically this one https://launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+build/7786927
[18:39] <mateo> Hi, found a spam blueprint on launchpad, and was looking for the right place to report.
[18:43] <mateo> ah, I see the link here, posted on answers.launchpad.net , thank you.
[18:43] <mateo> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/270311 - if you are curious


[12:17] -ChanServ:#ubuntu-bd- pavlushka removed rhct from the AKICK list.
[18:03] <pavlushka> zaki: o/


[00:00] <facundobatista> greg-g, post-karmic versions work decently ok
[00:01] <greg-g> post karmic?
[00:01] <facundobatista> greg-g, however, this is a beta product... we have a lot of small corner that we're yet improving
[00:01] <facundobatista> greg-g, karmic koala release
[00:01] <facundobatista> greg-g, which version are you using?
[00:01] <greg-g> karmic
[00:01] <greg-g> what is in the main repos, no ppa
[00:01] <facundobatista> ah, ok
[00:02] <greg-g> so, should I not use the karmic version when I re-install U1?
[00:07] <facundobatista> greg-g, well... PPA's version are with more bugfixes
[00:08] <greg-g> I'll try the PPA then.
[00:09] <greg-g> I'm really curious what the reason is the web ui is not updated my space used. It has been about 35 minutes after I made a major change in the amount of stuff stored on U1's servers
[05:06] <simba_> installed xubuntu lucid, and apt'ed ubuntuone-client, but didnt get any icons for it, and no ubuntu one directory. Am I missing something?
[05:19] <simba_> hmm...guess i needed ubuntuone-client-gnome to get the icon.
[21:52] <rlameiro> Hi
[21:52] <rlameiro> Is it possible to share a link for download with ubuntuone?
[22:33] <lamalex> like a permalink to a file?
[22:35] <rlameiro> yes lamalex
[22:35] <lamalex> not afaik, i might be wrong though
[22:37] <lamalex> https://files.one.ubuntu.com/1a936584-07f5-4729-8d4b-825a849958b2
[22:37] <lamalex> does that link work for you?
[23:28] <greg-g> lamalex: no, after it asking me to sign it, it gave me a Server Error (500)


[13:30] <tba> Hi all, just a quick comment, that after the last kernel update my usb sound card stopped working. Details to the problem can be found here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1201968/ubuntu-studio-19-10-usb-sound-card-not-working-anymore-appears-in-proc-asound/
[13:31] <tba> I "fixed" it by reverting to 5.3.0-24. If you need more information, I'm happy to provide it.
[17:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> tba: Kernel issues are beyond our control. Report a bug by typing "ubuntu-bug linux" and report the issue there.
[17:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> (in a terminal)
[18:11] <tba> Eickmeyer[m]: I thought so and will report it directly. Cheers.
[18:48] <Barry[m]> hello room
[18:48] <Barry[m]> I'm coming with some questions regarding Qt icon and theme inheritance
[18:49] <Barry[m]> relating to the DESKTOP_SESSION variable
[18:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Barry: Yes, per our discussion, it does not affect any downstream progams. And as I stated, it does not affect the XDG variable that is set by the desktop environment, which applications look for. They couldn't care less about DESKTOP_SESSION.
[18:50] <Barry[m]> If memory serves, I had issues with `albert` (launcher)
[18:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Barry: Additionally, if you're having issues with QT applications, we've solved that in 19.10 via a method that cannot be backported to 18.04.
[18:50] <Barry[m]> only had issues with icon packs
[18:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> Again, it was solved by introducing qt5ct, so all Qt applications use settings from qt5ct.
[18:51] <Barry[m]> not severe, either... just conflicting icon themes btw qt/gnome guis
[18:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> GTK should be using either their own icons or inheriting from whatever is set by the desktop environment. If it looks weird, contact the devloper of the application and tell them to pull the icon variable correctly per XDG standards.


[08:07] <LocutusOfBorg> hello please reject hy from queue, needs some more fixes...
[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected php7.0 [source] (xenial-proposed) [7.0.33-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-settings-daemon [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.18.2-0ubuntu3.2]
[11:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected udisks2 [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.1.7-1ubuntu2]
[12:10] <slashd> sil2100, o/ by curiosity did you notice the following : http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/r/resource-agents/bionic/armhf it showing 'code 14' instead of passed or fails
[12:10] <slashd> ddstreet, ^
[12:11] <ddstreet> yeah it's a real failure, halves is working on fixing it in lp #1828258
[12:11] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1828258 in resource-agents (Ubuntu Eoan) "ldirectord systemd service fails if no /var/lock/subsys dir" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828258
[12:11] <ddstreet> i think 'code 14' means it couldn't install all test deps
[12:12] <slashd> ddstreet, thanks
[12:12] <halves> slashd ddstreet currently waiting on upstream for the ldirectord one https://github.com/ClusterLabs/resource-agents/pull/1328
[12:12] <gitbot> ClusterLabs issue (Pull request) 1328 in resource-agents "ldirectord: Remove /var/lock from systemd unit" [Open]
[12:13] <acheronuk> 14 erroneous package and at least one test skipped
[12:13]  * acheronuk just learned something ^
[12:16] <slashd>      14   erroneous package and at least one test skipped
[12:16] <slashd> right ^
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted resolvconf [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.78ubuntu7]
[12:33] <vorlon> how are the ubuntu and ubuntu-mate bionic dailies oversized by exactly the same amount >_<
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted metaphlan2 [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.7.5-1ubuntu1]
[13:22] <rbasak> Could an SRU team member please review lexicon in Bionic and Cosmic? I can't do it as I sponsored.
[13:30] <vorlon> rbasak: my rule of thumb is that if I didn't modify the package as part of sponsorship, I can wear both hats
[13:32] <rbasak> vorlon: I'm reluctant to do that. I sponsored for a non-uploader, and I don't think I want to be the only barrier to introducing a mistake (as the sponsoree supposedly isn't qualified; otherwise they'd be an uploader)
[13:32] <vorlon> right, I disagree, but I can't force you to self-review ;)
[14:18] <Laney> desktop-icons incoming with a wrong version, please reject it :|
[14:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (disco-proposed/main) [19.01.1-1 => 19.01.3-1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (disco-proposed/main) [19.01.1-1 => 19.01.3-1~ubuntu19.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:21] <Laney> second one there is better
[14:21] <Laney> also, retrying all arm64 failures
[14:21] <Laney> one of the clouds is having a bad day and I've taken it out of rotation
[14:22] <Laney> done
[15:51] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: sorry for the lack of response yesterday, I got pulled away.   Cloud-init follows an SRU exception @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CloudinitUpdates  where we only provide a single SRU process bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1828637, We have an exception do to extensive CI plus manual cloud-testing during verification
[15:51] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1828637 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "sru cloud-init (18.5-45 to 19.1.1) Xenial, Bionic, Cosmic, Disco" [Undecided,In progress]
[15:52] <blackboxsw> so none of the other 'bugs' related to that SRU will carry SRU templates anymore
[15:52] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: then don't reference them in Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed
[15:53] <blackboxsw> we additionally still perform some level of manual verification on those bugs, which we track over in https://github.com/cloud-init/ubuntu-sru/tree/master/20190514
[15:53]  * blackboxsw checks, I maybe botched the sru proposal.
[15:53] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed is created from the LP: # entries in the debian/changelog file.
[15:55] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: ubuntu/xenial, bionic, cosmic  debian/changelog only carries two bugs LP: #1828641 and LP: #1828637.....
[15:55] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1828641 in cloud-init "Xenial, Bionic, Cosmic revert ubuntu-advantage-tools config module changes from tip" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828641
[15:55] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1828637 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "sru cloud-init (18.5-45 to 19.1.1) Xenial, Bionic, Cosmic, Disco" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828637
[15:56] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: ahh the disco proposal is broken... our publishing scripts didn't recognize it as a 'release/sru' distro series
[15:56] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: The disco one has a whole bunch - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/423221370/cloud-init_18.5-62-g6322c2dd-0ubuntu1_19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1.diff.gz
[15:56] <blackboxsw> thanks for catching that, I'll fix that and re-push disco
[15:56] <blackboxsw> xenial/bionic/cosmic should be sane disco I'll fix now
[15:57] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: ah yeah, cosmic looks good. I just didn't pass GO after seeing disco
[15:57] <blackboxsw> thanks again bdmurray
[15:57] <blackboxsw> makes sense to me
[15:57] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: Okay, I'll reject disco and feel free to ping me when its ready for rereview
[15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (disco-proposed) [19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1]
[15:59] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: do I need to also change the version on disco from 19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1 to 19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.2 so I can re-upload with fixed changelog. or can I re-use 19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1 now that it's rejected
[15:59] <blackboxsw> since it never officially got into -proposed
[16:00] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: You can reuse it since it never appeared in the archive but you'll need to upload with dput -f
[16:14] <blackboxsw> excellent thanks, just fixed disco
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lexicon [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.7.0-1ubuntu0.1]
[16:23] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: I haven't seen arges in a while . is he still SRU publishing vanguard on wednesdays? per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing
[16:24] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: I haven't seen him in a while either
[16:24] <blackboxsw> or should we generally try rbasak on wednesdays
[16:25] <blackboxsw> and/or update the table in the wiki?
[16:25]  * blackboxsw isn't sure how that SRU vanguard process is sorted
[16:26] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: The SRU team should probably check in with him.
[16:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: software-properties (bionic-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>.8 => <IP_ADDRESS>.9] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[17:10] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: what did "just fixed disco" mean? I don't see it in the queue.
[17:11] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: /me checks  if the upload got rejected due to lints etc.....
[17:11] <blackboxsw> I uploaded a new disco release afaict....verifying
[17:13] <blackboxsw> hrm. .. looked ok from my cli .... https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2j2bxQVwyK/  will re-attempt (I also see nothing in the queue)
[17:16] <blackboxsw> hrm Package has already been uploaded to ubuntu on upload.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <blackboxsw> ok removing the stock upload file that blocked me
[17:18] <blackboxsw> from the first upload
[17:28] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: I manually dput the package again after removing the corresponding cloud-init_19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1_source.ubuntu.upload. My dput CLI claims it successfully uploaded packages.  Yet I don't see cloud-init in any state in the New or Unapproved queues @ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=cloud-init.   Is it possible that my reusing the same version string as is
[17:28] <blackboxsw> currently 'Rejected' upload causes a hiccup here?
[17:30] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: can I see you source.changes file?
[17:31] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=cloud-init
[17:31] <blackboxsw> oops
[17:31] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qcqDRtgtZz/
[17:33] <bdmurray> That looks sane to me.
[17:33] <bdmurray> Have you gotten an email about the upload?
[17:33] <blackboxsw> ahh just did, I hadn't earlier
[17:34] <blackboxsw> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[17:34] <blackboxsw> ok
[17:34] <blackboxsw> File cloud-init_19.1-1-gbaa47854.orig.tar.gz already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.
[17:34] <blackboxsw> ok I've referenced an invalid orig tar.
[17:34] <blackboxsw> will really fix it. I had a cached file locally that was referenced incorrectly.
[17:35] <blackboxsw> once sorted and in the queue properly I'll ping or I can table this for next SRU vanguard tomorrow if preferred.
[17:35] <bdmurray> I'm here all day.
[17:36] <blackboxsw> heh, excellent
[17:48] <blackboxsw> ok bdmurray, let's try this song again. unapproved queue shows the upload for disco now v
[17:48] <blackboxsw> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=cloud-init
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (disco-proposed/main) [18.5-62-g6322c2dd-0ubuntu1 => 19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1] (core, edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud)
[17:48] <blackboxsw> thx queuebot
[17:49] <blackboxsw> :)
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (bionic-proposed/main) [1:18.04.32 => 1:18.04.33] (core)
[18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (disco-proposed) [19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~19.04.1]
[18:18] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: Hey there again. Can you explain the plan regarding bug 1828641 a bit more to me? It seems to me like there is going to be a cloud-init upload, then an u-a upload, then another cloud-init upload. Is that right?
[18:18] <ubot5`> bug 1828641 in cloud-init "Xenial, Bionic, Cosmic revert ubuntu-advantage-tools config module changes from tip" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828641
[18:20] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: correct, there is active development that my squad owns that will ultimately result in an SRU of ubuntu-advantage-tools 19.1 or later into Trusty, Xenial, Bionic, and Disco... It will ultimately change the ubuntu-advantage-tools CLI to match what cloud-init tip(Disco and Eoan) currently supports in the ubuntu_advantage.py cloud-config module
[18:20] <blackboxsw> likely we will need to SRU ubuntu-advantage-tools 19.1 into cosmic too, so we don't carry different versions of the ubuntu-advantage-tools CLI around
[18:21] <blackboxsw> so when ubuntu-advantage-tools 19.1 SRUs, we'll drop the debian/patch from cloud-init for each series
[18:23] <blackboxsw> so basically we'll have to tightly couple  the cloud-init (xenial/bionic/cosmic) and ubuntu-advantage-tools 19.1 SRU
[18:25] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: there isn't a way to make cloud-init handle either ubuntu-advantage?
[18:32] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: there is not a away because the 'old' ubuntu-advantage-tools (v <= 18) expects a user to have specific tokens for the related support services (livepatch, esm, fips) in order to enable services. The new ubuntu-advantage-tools  is able to obtain those tokens credentials from the backend service and doesn't require the use of those tokens on the commandline. The cloud-init team decided that because
[18:32] <blackboxsw> ubuntu-advantage-tools was breaking cli compatibility and because ua-tools decided explicitly to not to support an upgrade path from old ua-tools to new ua-tools that cloud-init would not try to support both old and new. The expectation is that for specific ubuntu-advantage-tools customer with support agreements, there will be some hand-holding to migrate supported users from old version to new version of
[18:32] <blackboxsw> ubuntu-advantage-tools.
[18:34] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: .... well there is a 'way' for cloud-init to support both syntaxes in the ubuntu-advantage cloud-config, since the config directive keys are different in cloud-init. cloud-init *could* carry the burden of supporting both, but it was suggested that it wasn't worth it for this use case
[18:35] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: its up you y'all since you'll be doing the extra upload of cloud-init.
[18:36] <bdmurray> anyway it'll be important to get the debian/control changes right for the next uploads
[18:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (cosmic-proposed) [19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[18:40] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: for this case during the SRU of ubuntu-advantage-tools 19.1 (new) SRU. I'm wondering how best to express the minimum version requirement of an optional package dependency...... maybe Conflicts: ubuntu-advantage-tools < 19?
[18:42] <blackboxsw> the conflicts would be in cloud-init's debian/control.
[18:53] <blackboxsw> we'll make sure we call that out in our SRU process for next release.
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Where did we land on lsp-plugins? Would it help if I created a separate package (named something like, liblsp) that contained only the shared object that gets installed into /usr/lib? I understand your reluctance, but there's many other packages that install items directly to that directory.
[19:05] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: Your bionic changelog references u-a 19.1 and xenial. I'm willing to overlook it but thought I should mention it. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/423714836/cloud-init_18.5-45-g3554ffe8-0ubuntu1~18.04.1_19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~18.04.1.diff.gz
[19:07] <blackboxsw> bah +1. can repush if that's easier (then we don't have to worry about cleanup or referencing the wrong distro in a changelog
[19:07] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: ok for me to rebuild-push and get that up in 10 mins?
[19:07] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: sure
[19:07] <blackboxsw> s/xenial/bionic in the changelog
[19:07] <blackboxsw> ok
[19:07] <blackboxsw> working it
[19:08] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: will you be rejecting bioinic queue?
[19:09] <blackboxsw> so I can reuse the same changelog ver
[19:12] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: You can still reuse it but yes
[19:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (bionic-proposed) [19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[19:16] <blackboxsw> thanks bdmurray new dput is up for bionic
[19:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (bionic-proposed/main) [18.5-45-g3554ffe8-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[19:16] <blackboxsw> thank you sire
[19:16] <blackboxsw> *sir
[19:20]  * infinity prefers sire.
[19:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (bionic-proposed) [19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [19.1-1-gbaa47854-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[20:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted util-linux [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.27.1-6ubuntu3.7]
[22:56] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: a separate liblsp package definitely does not help.  As far as I'm concerned, the path lookup code needs to be cleaned up, and the file which is not a shared library (because it has no soname) needs to be moved into a subdirectory
[22:59] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: I can't clean up the code, I lack the know-how. What if it was in a subdirectory and then a symbollic link was created in the /usr/lib directory?
[22:59] <vorlon> no
[22:59] <vorlon>  /usr/lib needs to be kept clean
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> Then why are there other non-shared libraries there?
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[23:13] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Filed an issue on Github, hopefully it'll get somewhere: https://github.com/sadko4u/lsp-plugins/issues/49
[23:13] <gitbot> sadko4u issue 49 in lsp-plugins "lsp-plugins-jack-core-1.1.9.so installs to /usr/lib" [Open]
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[10:01] <mwhudson> omg i actually have to wait for a ppa build to start
[10:01] <mwhudson> haven't had that happen for months
[10:04] <wgrant> mwhudson: Hm, that's a bit weird.
[10:04] <wgrant> Oh someone is building about a billion mysqls and mariadbs.
[10:04] <wgrant> And lcy01 fell over.
[10:05] <mwhudson> i was wondering if that many buildds in cleaning was normal
[10:07] <wgrant> Well.
[10:07] <wgrant> It's normal, but not normal, if you know what I mean.
[10:07] <wgrant> Not meant to happen, but, well, lcy01 is thpecial.
[10:10] <mwhudson> i thought the cloud fixes everything
[10:10] <mwhudson> did i read that memo wrong?
[10:13] <wgrant> Clouds sometimes mean rain.
[10:14] <wgrant> mwhudson: Stabbed a few things, and the queue should be clear in a minute or two.
[10:15] <mwhudson> wgrant: awesome thanks
[10:16] <mwhudson> wgrant: now can you make the publisher a million times faster
[10:16] <wgrant> mwhudson: I'm not a wizard.
[10:17] <mwhudson> shame
[10:46] <cjwatson> Hm, not convinced that twisted.web.client.HTTPConnectionPool actually works quite the way I was thinking it did.
[10:46] <cjwatson> maxPersistentPerHost limits the number of persistent connections it retains, but not the number it's willing to open in parallel.
[10:50] <cjwatson> I think I'll need a subclass that overrides _{get,remove,put}Connection with some extra Deferreds.
[11:01] <wgrant> That is unfortunate.
[11:02] <wgrant> But Deferreds fix everything.
[11:06] <cjwatson> Including "my program is too easy to debug".
[11:07] <wgrant> That's most of the point.
[11:11] <cjwatson> I think DeferredQueue is probably my friend.
[11:27] <cjwatson> Ah, no, DeferredSemaphore.


[10:59] <bdrung> cryfs 0.11.3-5 fails to build on ppc64el due to not enough memory (bug #2019853). Can we give the builders more memory?
[10:59] -ubottu:#launchpad- Bug 2019853 in cryfs (Ubuntu) "cryfs 0.11.3-5 fails to build on ppc64el" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2019853
[11:00] <cjwatson> bdrung: I doubt it's a question of physical memory (they get 16GB).  From the log it looks more like mlock
[11:00] <cjwatson> IIRC upgrading the builders to jammy will help with that
[11:00] <cjwatson> (due to systemd changes)
[11:03] <bdrung> can you elaborate your reasoning what the problem with mlock is and why jammy could help?
[11:23] <cjwatson> The reason I suspect mlock is that the build log mentions it.  And mlock failing is usually not helped by increasing available system memory - mlock has a much more restricted available pool.
[11:26] <cjwatson> The systemd thing is a vague memory though.
[11:27] <cjwatson> Possibly wrong.  systemd 852b62507b22c0a986032a2c9fa9cc464a5b7bd2 looks relevant, but that's in 251 which was post-jammy.
[11:28] <cjwatson> But in any case, if a test is showing that insufficient lockable memory is available, that's probably something that should be fixed in the distro - not something we should hack around specifically on builders, since that would just make the test environment less realistic.
[11:29] <cjwatson> If it's just a matter of keeping up with current distro configuration, we can do that (hence my comment about jammy), but I don't think we should have something like a tweak for LimitMEMLOCK= just for builders.
[18:57] <surfzoid> Hi,
[19:01] <surfzoid> my soft, QtVsPlayer need QT>=5.15, my raspberry is under dedian bulleeyes, so ubuntu focal, to get qt5.15 i use https://launchpad.net/~savoury1/+archive/ubuntu/qt-5-15 in my ppa dependancies, it's perfect when build the machine: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/666494585/buildlog.txt.gz but why, when build the binaries, launchpad downgrade qt to 5.12
[19:01] <surfzoid> :https://launchpadlibrarian.net/666495311/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-arm64.qtvsplayer_1.0.41~202305161847~ubuntu20.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[19:06] <sarnold> surfzoid: my *guess* is that savoury1 has decided to not publish aarch64 binaries for whatever reason
[19:06] <sarnold> https://launchpad.net/~savoury1/+archive/ubuntu/qt-5-15/+sourcepub/12647572/+listing-archive-extra
[19:06] <sarnold> pyqt5 (5.15.4+dfsg-1~20.04.sav1) focal; urgency=medium
[19:06] <sarnold>   * Build for amd64 only due several BDs not on Focal i386 Launchpad whitelist
[19:07] <sarnold> maybe ask him if he could add aarch64 packages?


[18:24] <jbicha> darkxst: yay, we finally have the latest gnome-user-share in Ubuntu, it's not installed by default at the moment waiting on mod-dnssd MIR
[18:24] <jbicha> I'll have to look at vino next


[00:18] <rww> turn off monitor, install ubuntu, file bugs when this is impossible
[00:18] <rww> for example