[00:00] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so where exactly do i run that code?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> but it could be badly written.. like the rest of that web site it came from
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> in a terminal Q-jackechan_
[00:00] <Q-jackechan_> ok
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> in the same workign directory as the download.
[00:00] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: I understand, but you are running an installer, which requires an install. I use this as a rule of thumb: If you are going to run a prog under wine installed, imagine it running at 10% of its windows potential
[00:01] <Q-jackechan_> but... it's a.msi.zip. do i still need to unzip first?
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:  yes of course you do//
[00:01] <Jasonn> yes, you will need to unzip
[00:01] <SIFTU> Q-jackechan_: I agree with the other who said, dual boot, or run in a VM.
[00:01] <Jasonn> SIFTU: I be the other one :3
[00:01] <Q-jackechan_> jasonn, if it runs at 0.00000001% of windows potential, i'll be happy as hell.
[00:01] <Jasonn> and might not even start properly
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> if it runs at all.. i will be suprised..
[00:02] <SIFTU> Jasonn: :)
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so i just drag/drop out of the window right?
[00:02] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: If he figures out that wine sucks, I will be surprised.
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> I thought you allready did that once Q-jackechan_ and had it extracted....
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> doing it again, to rule out corruption
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> ok, done.
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> trying code....
[00:03] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: lol, you just had to complicate him with running wine with terminal xDDDD
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> you dont install a msi any other way that ive seen
[00:03] <Jasonn> oh
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> steam comes as a msi and i install steam allthe time on my box's
[00:04] <tp43> Hi, my screen turns off after 10mins or so, how do I change this setting
[00:04] <Q-jackechan_> omg! yay! i got an install wizard to pop up!
[00:04] <Jasonn> tp43: top right power button, system settings, power settings, etc.
[00:04] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so what directory do i tell it to install itself in?
[00:04] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: I bet $10 this is not going to work
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:  let it use the defaults..
[00:04] <Q-jackechan_> okiedokie
[00:05] <Q-jackechan_> and your on jasonn
[00:05] <Jasonn> haha
[00:05] <Jasonn> By that I mean will not run PROPERLY
[00:05] <tp43> I am running gnome, and I set the gnome-screensaver-preferences,  but this seems to be some other setting
[00:05] <brightspark> How can I avoid the message "Error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error." when using the youtube feature in totem?
[00:05] <Q-jackechan_> we can define properly later =P
[00:05] <Q-jackechan_> ok, it finished the wizard
[00:06] <maheanuu> Just did an upgrade and lost all sound and mike from Skype in Ubuntu 10.10 this is the 4th Ubgrade to screw up my audio and mic setup
[00:06] <Cornell> My machine only gets up to the hardware splash screen.  Probable hardware failure, or problem with grub, or what.  Never had a machine get that far and no further.
[00:06] <tp43> Never mind, I found it
[00:07] <Q-jackechan_> eww. gmail looks like crap in wine/firefox.
[00:07] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, did it work?
[00:07] <maheanuu> Firefox looks like crap these days
[00:07] <Q-jackechan_> donno yet. working on it...
[00:07] <tp43> My laptop screen turns off after a min and then after a while, it turns back on for just a min, anyone know how to fix this, do I need screen replacement, or something else
[00:07] <bugaloo> yeah... i'm using chrome after I got my android phone, because it's more compatible, but firefox is going bad in some points
[00:08] <puffin> Does anyone have a recommendation for a terminal bittorrent client?
[00:08] <macros> console owner, does this not apply to pre-start stanzas in upstart?
[00:08] <SIFTU> puffin: rtorrent
[00:08] <brightspark> Has anyone any advice for getting youtube to stream within totem?  I always get the error message "Error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error."
[00:08] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: You know how the other day, you recommended I fixed ALSA or something. It didnt work...
[00:08] <puffin> Okays, I'll check it out.
[00:08] <bugaloo> puffin, bittorrent has a console version, I guess
[00:08] <Jasonn> !repeat >> brightspark
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  i barely rember what i did in here 20 min ago....
[00:08] <SIFTU> brightspark: not sure about that exact error.. but youtube changes things from time to time which breaks everything
[00:09] <latagore> of my Hi, for some reason, the fdisk command isn't working in command line and one of my partitions isn't recognized
[00:09] <SIFTU> brightspark: like youtube-dl recently.. there maybe updated packages
[00:09] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Ok, so my sound was not working, and you told me to reinstall alsa, so I did that, and it still does not work.,
[00:09] <Q-jackechan_> lawl... uh... wine/ff needs flash. it's handling it on it's own though
[00:09] <SIFTU> latagore: running it under sudo?
[00:10] <Q-jackechan_> aaaaand... wine-ff froze.
[00:10] <latagore> SIFTU, oops, the command is apparently not found
[00:10] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: Wine ss sucks.
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  i doubt i would have told you to reinstall alsa.. i normally take the standpoint that reinstalling rarely fixs anything.
[00:10] <maheanuu> I went looking for a fix and so far nothing..  It is telling me my pulse audio is effed up
[00:10] <jose> channel to ask mono question please?
[00:10] <SIFTU> latagore: sudo fdisk -l
[00:10] <brightspark> Thanks SIFTU.  I just did an upgrade yesterday, but it didn't help stuff.  I found a post online which recommended installing the gstreamer packages but no improvement there either.
[00:10] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: reinstall and purge data
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  unless you totally hacked the alsa configs or did other stuff  to breakit. :)
[00:10] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, wine isn't very stable... it's just a "easy way" to run windows needs
[00:10] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: lol, I didnt. So how do I fix it.
[00:11] <Ramir00> preset equalizer for QMMP????????????????????
[00:11] <latagore> SIFTU, shouldn't I be able to use fdisk without sudo? It works by the way
[00:11] <Q-jackechan_> alright. i'll try to be more gentle with it.
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  no idea . i rarely work with sound problems..
[00:11] <Jasonn> oh
[00:11] <SIFTU> brightspark: the patches dont make their way back.. you may need to compile from source or find a PPA with more up-to-date packages.. if that is indeed the problem
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  so how did you break it? :)
[00:11] <SIFTU> latagore: no, it can destroy disks (ok not the -l option)
[00:12] <Q-jackechan_> tried to scroll up on a graphics intense page right after installing flash plugin
[00:12] <brightspark> SIFTU- I don't think it is as there are posts regarding this error message going back to karmic/jaunty.  I can post the terminal output from when it fails if you would be interested.
[00:13] <goer> I would like to use animated .png in gnome panel ( .apng). Has anyone had success with this?
[00:13] <th0r> Q-jackechan_: you might want to consider lying, after accepting that $10 bet
[00:13] <bugaloo> about sound problems...I have one hehe
[00:13] <latagore> SIFTU, but most devices are not accessible except by root, so why does fdisk have to only be accessible by root?
[00:13] <maheanuu> How do I purge Skype and then re install it along with alsa and get rid of the crap pulse audio s**t?
[00:13] <Q-jackechan_> lol. i'm still working on it.
[00:13] <bugaloo> hi all... I have a dv2000 hp notebook, and I just can't see my headphones volume control, also my speakers doesn't mute when I plug the headphones. Plus, if I choose to sound only goes to the right speaker, it only goes to my right ear on headphones. if I put the sound 'center', it goes to the both ears AND speakers. Does anyone knows how can I configure it right? Using ubuntu 10.04 but the problems happened since 8.10
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> goer:  i doubt if its doable.. animaged png's seem to be rather.. rare.
[00:14] <goer> Dr_Willis: yes, cos its still relatively new. But I read that .gifs will be superceded by .apng
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> goer:  i will belive it when i see it happen.
[00:14] <Ramir00> equalizer preset for QMMP????????????????
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> Ramir00:  you have used up your quota of ?'s for the day. please try again tomorrow....
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:15] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: I did a fresh install of ubuntu, and the sound dont work :/
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  so.. has it ever worked...
[00:15] <goer> Dr_Willis: check this:  http://preloaders.net/en/3d
[00:15] <Jasonn> pretty much
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Ramir00:  kidding.. but doing stuff like that.. makes a lotof people just ignore you even more
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  it pretty much 'has ever worked' ?  that a yes or no?
[00:15] <maheanuu> I was fine until todays "Upgrade files including Firefox and some other crap
[00:16] <brightspark> SIFTU: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/672796/
[00:16] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Never worked with ubuntu, dont know about windows, its a new comp
[00:16] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: But the internal speaker works, I am sure of that
[00:16] <Ramir00> que me ignoran???
[00:16] <Jasonn> !es > Ramir00
[00:16] <Ramir00> equalizer preset for QMMP
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  Interesting..  internal speaker = it beeps. :)  -  i would test it with some other live cd's and other disrtos perhaps. check what chipset teh soundcard is also.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> !info qmmp
[00:17] <Q-jackechan_> dang... you guys weren't kidding, this thing rlly is fragile. i had to look up the url in linux/ff lol.
[00:17] <propus> is there any good theme manager for ubuntu/gnome ?
[00:17] <Ramir00> channel qmmp?
[00:17] <bugaloo> Jasonn, did you try alsamixer on terminal?
[00:17] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Actually, I used to use my internal speaker when my speaker broke, so I know it can be used for sound playback..
[00:17] <xangua> propus: appearence menu
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> propus:  there used to be some in the repos, called gnome-art or gnome-art-ng or similer.. but not used them in years. they made it easy to get new themes..
[00:18] <Jasonn> bugaloo: yeah
[00:18] <bugaloo> all volumes are ok?
[00:18] <Jasonn> !flood | Ramir00
[00:18]  * Dr_Willis wonders what qmmp even is...
[00:18] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Is ubottu broken??
[00:19] <Ramir00> eh?
[00:19] <maheanuu> I gotta run, a windoze job for a bro in law....   If you asked your question, wait until it gets answered.
[00:19] <propus> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[00:21] <maheanuu> Laters...  I will be back I need my skype tel calls to the states from here are over 10 dollars a minute....
[00:21] <goer> With Linux there is a great solution for everything!
[00:22] <Jasonn> like.. How to get rid of a body!
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> just may not be the one you want. :)
[00:22] <th0r> goer: what does it say about world peace?
[00:22] <IdleOne> !ot
[00:22] <bugaloo> wow
[00:22] <Jasonn> uhh
[00:22] <Jasonn> shit?
[00:22] <goer> th0r: Read the Bible friend!
[00:23] <th0r> a two line joke gets an !ot, but nothing said about 'shit?'
[00:23] <Jasonn> !ot
[00:24] <IdleOne> th0r: you can ask people to watch their language also
[00:24] <goer> I agree wth IdleOne
[00:24] <Jasonn> +1 for idle1 :3
[00:24] <IdleOne> back in my day before I became an op the "regular" users of this channel tried to enforce the guidelines also
[00:24] <Jasonn> or plus One for IdleOne
[00:25] <IdleOne> now please stick to the topic. chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:25] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I need to locate a file on my hard drive.  I forget the name, but it had the word dumpfile in it.  How can I search for it?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: Had the word "dumpfile" in the name or in its contents?
[00:26] <bugaloo> dsnyders: updatedb ; locate dumpfile
[00:27] <Jasonn> dsnyders: find -name "keyword"
[00:27] <bugaloo> that should work too, hehe
[00:27] <dsnyders> Jordan_U, it had the word dumpfile in the contents.  I forget the name.
[00:27] <bugaloo> hm
[00:28] <bugaloo> dsnyders, you can do: grep -R /path/to/initial/directory dumpfile
[00:28] <Jasonn> dsnyders: Then you are screwed. I guess you can look for the file extension.
[00:28] <bugaloo> it will work on this path and subdirectories
[00:28] <bugaloo> dsnyders, but on depending the size of the directory, it can take a long time
[00:29] <Jasonn> dsnyders: You can also look at the approximate location of the file (look in /home/user instead of the whole filesystem)
[00:29] <puffin> det
[00:29] <Pumpkin-> you want the path and the search string the other way around
[00:29] <Pumpkin-> and yes, it will take a while
[00:29] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I'm not in a particular hurry.  But I don't want to rewrite the script if I don't have to.
[00:29] <bugaloo> dsnyders, do that then... is it on a home user directory?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: Try "grep -R dumpfile ~/"
[00:30] <bugaloo> dsnyders, it should work: grep -R /home/user dumpfile
[00:30] <Jordan_U> bugaloo: The search pattern is the first argument to grep, not the path.
[00:30] <Jasonn> bugaloo: If he knew where it was, would he be looking for it (lol, sorry for the sarcasm, and dont take it the wrong way)
[00:30] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I hope so.  I lost track of it during one of my system upgrades.  It's either in the copies of the previous hard drive contents, or it's lost.
[00:30] <bugaloo> oh shit! that's true, haha
[00:30] <bugaloo> Jordan_U is right
[00:30] <j3rg> anyone got the Hauppauge 1600 TV Tuner to work with Ubuntu?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> !language | bugaloo
[00:31] <benji321> Hi, Is it ok to use chkconfig --add to install an init script ?
[00:31] <bugaloo> it's grep -R dumpfile /path/*
[00:31] <bugaloo> come on... this is not a bad word, hehe
[00:32] <Jasonn> bugaloo: I said it and didnt get punished :3
[00:32] <dsnyders> grep seems to be running...
[00:32] <bugaloo> Jasonn,  hehehe... it happens
[00:33] <bugaloo> dsnyders, as I said... it can take a while
[00:33] <conanbat> hey guys im having a desperate issue
[00:33] <bugaloo> try a pizza, hehe
[00:33] <conanbat> I have windows 7 and installed ubuntu from there
[00:33] <Jasonn> bugaloo: yes, why yes it does.
[00:33] <conanbat> this very morning ubuntu was running fine, but suddently, after a reboot, when ubuntu loads i get a gnu console
[00:33] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I've been eating too much pizza lately.  I've got pasta going tonight.
[00:33] <conanbat> i have no idea what to do with that. Seems something broke. Windows 7 works perfectly fine, so i doubt some hardware issue
[00:34] <bugaloo> dsnyders, lol
[00:34] <bugaloo> let us to know if you find your file :)
[00:34] <Jordan_U> conanbat: What prompt do you see from this "console"?
[00:34] <Axalon> I've got a question about PPAs. How exactly do they differ from standard repos? I realize that they're unsupported but I don't see the difference between, say, the Linux Tweak PPA and the Debian Multimedia repo.
[00:35] <conanbat> i dont remember exactly, but im pretty sure it said gnu or gnome
[00:35] <conanbat> it came with a small text that told me if i pressed tab i would see commands (which i did)
[00:35] <bugaloo> conanbat, wouldn't "grub>"?
[00:35] <Q-jackechan_> oh my god... mcgraw hill are a bunch of idiots.
[00:35] <conanbat> mm i saw it so long ago i dont remmeber but maybe its that
[00:35] <Q-jackechan_> they lost my registration already >_<
[00:35] <conanbat> i tried writing "boot" and it said "no loaded kernel"
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !ot | Q-jackechan_
[00:36] <zykotick9> conanbat, did you see "grub" anywhere?
[00:36] <Q-jackechan_> i know, this is related to something i was talking about before.
[00:36] <latagore> conanbat, then you probably saw grub
[00:36] <bugaloo> conanbat, I think you had "grub>" prompt
[00:36] <Q-jackechan_> several users are awaiting feedback on if something we tried worked
[00:36] <Q-jackechan_> just updating them on... technical difficulties...
[00:36] <conanbat> i can try, u guys are probably right
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Axalon: PPAs are repositories that use launchpad's infrastructure. They are no different in structure from any other third party repository.
[00:36] <conanbat> but what should i do if i saw grub ?
[00:37] <Rafase282> can someone help me setup and configure a dhcp server so i can share internet connection via usb with my tablet runing angstrom?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> conanbat: What version of Ubunut did you have installed?
[00:37] <conanbat> 11.04
[00:37] <conanbat> latest with Unity
[00:37] <IdleOne> Rafase282: angstrom is not supported here
[00:38] <conanbat> it stopped working after i shut it down properly, moved away with the laptop and restarted it. I feared hardware at first, but windows runs fine
[00:38] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Can you reboot to the grub shell and be on IRC at the same time from a different machine?
[00:38] <zykotick9> Axalon, actually a PPA and the Debian Multimedia repo are very similar - they are both quasi-official but "unsupported" ;)
[00:38] <Rafase282> I know, but my host machine is runing ubuntu, and that is where the dhcp server needs to be setup
[00:38] <Axalon> I see. Thought there might have been some difference since people seem so crazy about them.
[00:38] <conanbat> Jordan_U, unfortunately i cant
[00:38] <Rafase282> brb tho
[00:38] <Axalon> Thanks for answering that for me
[00:39] <conanbat> Jordan_U, but if i have to run a battery of commands or diagnostics, maybe we can make a list and i can try, and then come back
[00:39] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD or USB?
[00:39] <conanbat> i will see if i find the liveCD
[00:41]  * hylian waves hello
[00:41] <sum1nil> hello, I am trying to follow the example at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#C.23_Example
[00:41] <TomR> hi,i use firefox with ubuntu.is there any way to open a link with external application,i.e.,when you right click a link ,you can choose a command to run the link as its first argument.
[00:42] <sum1nil> for the c# source but cant add a reference for using AppIndicator;
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> TomR: no but if it's a specific file type you can, but not something standard like html
[00:42] <dsnyders> Rafase282, I'm not sure if you can set up dhcp that way.  USB is not meant for networking.  There are lots of websites related to tethering smartphones.
[00:42] <hylian> TomR, i don't know, i know it can be done in windows, so i know it can be done in linux, but how...
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> TomR: or anything parse-able by firefox or it's plugins
[00:43] <hylian> sum1nil, i read that article, exactly what are you trying to do?
[00:44] <conanbat> Jordan_U, i just remembered that the last live cd i had, even if i found it, was like 9.10 or something, i've been updating it
[00:44] <sum1nil> add a the reference to AppIndicator; I can't find it in the add reference.
[00:44] <kingofswords> is it safe to upgrade from 10.04 lts to 10.10 with updatemanager or should i do a backup of 10.04?
[00:44] <Galaxor> Does ubuntu have the hg shelve extension and I just can't find it in the repo?  Or do I have to compile it from source?
[00:44] <conanbat> what were you trying to achieve by running an ubuntu?
[00:44] <hylian> TomR, if a file is already associated to a specific action, i.e. a mp3 opens mplayer, then firefox will open it, but it won't give you an option as to what to open it with, just mplayer.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> conanbat: If you could boot into Ubuntu then you could run boot info script.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | conanbat
[00:45] <sum1nil> by the way anyone know how to watch netflix over ubuntu?
[00:46] <conanbat> can it be run from grub?
[00:46] <Jordan_U> conanbat: No.
[00:46] <hylian> sum1nil, currently the only way I know is to install virtualbox, and then install the netflix software in a vm'ed version of windows. netflix is quite anti *nix
[00:47] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Do you have a camera that you can use to take pictures of the output at the grub shell (to avoid having to write and retype a lot of output)?
[00:47] <sum1nil> hylian: i see well I have an old vista disc...
[00:47] <conanbat> man im really short tooled, i dont have a camera to do that. I am a programmer so i can follow some complicated tasks. But if you need to see some large input i will have to get a computer somehow
[00:48] <Rafase282> im back
[00:49] <hylian> sum1nil, that will work, hope you have the serial code too.
[00:49] <zykotick9> j3rg, yes, to hauppauge 1600 in 10.04LTS, but never got the remote working
[00:49] <sum1nil> hylian: yep... was a package deal with my current desktop
 The guided that I'm following requires it. http://dev.openaos.org/wiki/DebianGen7
[00:50] <hylian> sum1nil, good. i don't know if you have virtualbox installed yet, but I suggest you download it from oracle directly. the one in software center is open source edition, deisgned for working on the project, and is unstable and does not have all the functions
[00:51] <conanbat> Jordan_U, will it help to install wubi?
[00:51] <conanbat> or will that not help us diagnose the booting issues?
[00:51] <sum1nil> will do
[00:52] <hylian> sum1nil, good, i suggest you get it here: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[00:52] <dsnyders> Rafase282, Did you try looking up dhcp in the package manager?
[00:52] <wdd``> http://i.imgur.com/S6KnG.jpg
[00:53] <Q-jackechan_> while i'm on hold with these people... has anyone heard of the patch for terminal that makes it shout at you if you type "make me a sandwich" into it? where can i get it?
[00:53] <Rafase282> I installed it
[00:53] <Rafase282> but it wont run
[00:54] <dsnyders> Rafase282, Dumb question... Was that the client, or the server?
[00:54] <Rafase282>  isc-dhcp-server
[00:55] <Rafase282> from the command sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[00:56] <j3rg> zykotick9 wat program u use to view channels?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> conanbat: You already have Wubi installed.
[00:57] <zykotick9> j3rg, i used it exclusively with MythTV actually
[00:57] <latagore> Hi, how can I create a LiveUSB from another Linux distro?
[00:57] <zykotick9> j3rg, do you also happen to have an nvidia graphics card?
[00:57] <Rafase282> unebootin
[00:58] <Rafase282> google that for a liveusb
[00:58] <j3rg> zykotick9, nope ATI HD 5770
[00:58] <zykotick9> j3rg, k
[00:58] <j3rg> zykotick9, i hear something about interlacing or overlacing not capable
[00:59] <Joe_> Hi folks.
[00:59] <j3rg> zykotick9, my thought was once it works with windows 7 I can't see why it ain't gonna work with Ubuntu
[00:59] <zykotick9> j3rg, sorry don't know about those.  I certainly never had any output issues, was even able to use hardware rendering via vdpau for HD content
[00:59] <jabell> hi
[00:59] <conanbat> Jordan_U, yes but re-installing it. I would like to salvage the information, but more so having a version of ubuntu running as i depend on it to work
[01:00] <dsnyders> bugaloo, This may take longer than I thought.  I'm getting "recursive directory loop" warnings.
[01:00] <j3rg> zykotick9, nice!!.... anywayz tanx for da reply Imma keep tryin'
[01:00] <bugaloo> oops
[01:00] <bugaloo> dsnyders, did you start on root directory? like / ? hehe
[01:00] <alikhj> hello! I hope everyone is well today
[01:00] <dsnyders> bugaloo, You can wait until the heat death of the universe, right?
[01:00] <alikhj> i have an issue with Grub
[01:00] <Seanmc98> whats the commmand to pull the contents of a iso that are burned onto a disk back into a iso?
[01:01] <bugaloo> hehe
[01:01] <alikhj> i just installed natty with win7
[01:01] <dsnyders> bugaloo, No, I started in /home/dsnyders
[01:01] <bugaloo> dsnyders, I guess not
[01:01] <alikhj> grub shows win7, but does not load it
[01:01] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Boot into the grub shell and run "set", this will print the list of environment variables and thier values. Write down the value of the $prefix variable. Also run "ls" and write down all the output. If you see a grub version number on the screen somewhere write it down. Run "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg". The last command will eithr print a short error message or flood your screen with output. Note which of the two it does.
[01:01] <bugaloo> dsnyders, maybe you have any link to a directory below and it's looping
[01:01] <bugaloo> :\
[01:01] <alikhj> i select win7 and the screen just goes blank and then i see grub again
[01:01] <wad> Seanmc98, can't you just right-click the CD-ROM icon, and choose to do it from a menu? I've done it before, it was done that way, I think.
[01:02] <conanbat> ok will do right away
[01:02] <alikhj> anyone know what the problem could be?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> conanbat: One second.
[01:02] <bonny__> how do i update adobe flash player
[01:02] <Seanmc98> wad, i know there was a command that worked and idk what that command was
[01:03] <sum1nil> bonny: get the beta works good
[01:03] <jabell> Is there any way to pull contents from a large number of folders, and put them into one folder? I have a load of zip files i would like to access in one place but i do not want to have to sort them manually
[01:03] <sum1nil> squared or something
[01:03] <linuxuz3r> bonny__ dl the latest flash player from adobes website
[01:03] <alikhj> can anyone help me with grub and win7 not loading?
[01:03] <linuxuz3r> there is an instruction on how to install it
[01:03] <conanbat> ok still here
[01:03] <Joe_> I am also having boot troubles with Natty.
[01:04] <sum1nil> what kind of troubles Joe?
[01:04] <dsnyders> bugaloo, It doesn't seem to actually be looping.  It's just throwing a warning.  /home/dsnyders/documents/olddrive/wine/mydocuments points back to /home/dsnyders/documents or some such nonsense.
[01:04] <bonny__> I dont know how to install from website on linux only sort of used to with terminal
[01:04] <Joe_> black screen, 'Read Error'
[01:04] <Jordan_U> conanbat: If you need Ubuntu running soon and reliably then I would recommend burning an Ubuntu CD or making an Ubuntu USB and doing a normal (non-wubi) install. You can access your wubi files from the normal Ubuntu install.
[01:04] <bugaloo> dsnyders, maybe it works yet then
[01:05] <latagore> Rafase282, do I need a partitioned drive or can I use the raw device?
[01:05] <sum1nil> mmmm... and that is natty?
[01:05] <alikhj> can anyone help me with grub and win7 not loading?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> conanbat: That's all. I need to leave now, but I will be back in about 45 minutes.
[01:05] <Joe_> Yes,
[01:05] <conanbat> ah thats good Jordan_U , i am downloading it right now
[01:05] <conanbat> will do that
[01:06] <Joe_> Alikhj Have you tried the win7 recovery cd?
[01:06] <hylian> alikhj, i certainly can try, exactly what does grub do when you boot.
[01:06] <sum1nil> Joe is that on the install or after the install? You may need to run the burn a bit slower.
[01:07] <alikhj> Joe: yeah the win7 recovery cd had no effect
[01:07] <Rafase282> for unebootin you should format it, event fat32 works, it does it magic
[01:07] <Rafase282> im not sure about raw
[01:07] <hylian> Joe_, as a long time computer tech, i can tell you that half of the people that buy windows don't get a recovery disk.
[01:07] <alikhj> hylian: thanks! i select win7 on grub and just get a blank screen and then it goes back to the grub menu
[01:07] <Joe_> Short version: brand new drive, fresh install to an ext4 partition I set up.
[01:07] <alikhj> hylian: everything else in grub works fine - ubuntu boots no problem
[01:08] <hylian> alikhj, hmmm. how familiar are you with the terminal? (control alt t)?
[01:08] <dsnyders> bugaloo, Well, if it wasn't smart enough to look for recursion in the filesystem, the warning messages wouldn't be there.
[01:08] <alikhj> hylian: in it right now and willing to learn
[01:09] <bugaloo> dsnyders, sure
[01:09] <ndeyconteh> he
[01:09] <ndeyconteh> hey mal
[01:09] <hylian> alikhj, the first thing we should do is update grub. that is done by typing sudo update-grub
[01:09] <IRAQI> What app replace photoshop in linux?
[01:10] <hylian> IRAQI, gimp, or "GNU Image Manipulation Program"
[01:10] <alikhj> hylian: done, last line says "Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[01:10] <IRAQI> hylian: thanks...
[01:10] <hylian> alikhj, ok, you will have to restart, and try windows again, i will be here if it fails, either way please come back and tell me the results.
[01:10] <sum1nil> gimp is very stable
[01:11] <alikhj> hylian: no problem - i'm IRCing on another pc so gimme a sec while I restart
[01:11] <hylian> IRAQI, no prob bob :)
[01:11] <alikhj> hylian: thanks btw!
[01:11] <Dogears> Hi! I am trying to setup a basic DHCP server on 10.10. I have installed the program and modified the dhcpd.conf file to subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> which gives me a bad subnet number/mask combination? any ideas?
[01:12] <alikhj> hylian: no luck... same blank screen and back to grub menu
[01:12] <alikhj> hylian: and the grub version is the same at 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[01:13] <SIFTU> Dogears: does you file look similar to the examples in the man page?
[01:13] <hylian> alikhj, let me look this up and see what is going on. do you have 2 hard drives?
[01:13] <SIFTU> Dogears: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man5/dhcpd.conf.5.html
[01:13] <alikhj> hylian: you guessed it - ive got 2 hd's win7 and ubuntu are installed on just one though
[01:13] <alikhj> hylian: could it be an issue with the 100mb partition that win7 creates at the beginning of the hd?
[01:14] <urlin2u> alikhj, run this script and pastebin all of the RESULTS.txt  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:15] <invisiblek> boo, chromium keeps not being able to load my profile. even though i reset it
[01:15] <alikhj> urlin2u: got it, will do - what is pastebin btw?
[01:16] <Joe_> Anyone know how to fix a 'read error' on boot?
[01:16] <urlin2u> alikhj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/  the script will answer a lot opf questions.
[01:16] <dsnyders> alikhj, pastebin is a website that allows people to share text files on a short term basis.
[01:16] <urlin2u> of*
[01:17] <alikhj> dsnyders: ahhh i see thanks!
[01:17] <kapipi> Shouldn't the Unity file lens (via Zeitgeist) pick up that I have downloaded a file and display it in recent items?
[01:17] <kapipi> *using firefox
[01:17] <dsnyders> alikhj, It's perfect for sharing long log files and other such output on an IRC chat without drowning out everyone.
[01:19] <alikhj> urlin2u: just pasted RESULTS.txt to ubuntu pastebin under alikhj
[01:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps having an issue in natty my package list wont parse ..
[01:19] <urlin2u> alikhj, you now paste the url here.
[01:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> how do I fix that/
[01:21] <urlin2u> alikhj, we can't find it you have to give us the http address
[01:21] <invisiblek> going to dev chromium....
[01:23] <hylian> alikhj, sorry i took so long, a lot to read. sadly i believe it to be not good news. from what i read this is a known error with grub and windows 7. it is highly recommended to install ubuntu on another disk, away from windows, not just another partition. i never ran into this problem with my xp and vista customers... you will most likely have to re-install windows 7, which will get you windows 7 working but wipe out ubuntu. the best option for you may be t
[01:23] <hylian> he ubuntu install through windows option.
[01:23] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo_ , ok, so you were right, this dosen't seem to be panning out.
[01:23] <Q-jackechan_> oddly it's not the plugin that's not working
[01:23] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, too bad
[01:23] <phrosty_> What does this error message mean? Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:23] <phrosty_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:24] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, maybe you have to install windows on a virtualbox after all
[01:24] <Q-jackechan_> flash is takeing forever and a halk to load
[01:24] <latagore> hylian, where did you read this?
[01:24] <latagore> phrosty_, you probably don't have root privileges. Use sudo
[01:24] <hylian> latagore, it's from several boards. i can dig up all the articles i read if you want...
[01:25] <urlin2u> hylian, a bit drastic I doubt that needs to be done. ;-)
[01:25] <Ramir00> hi
[01:25] <hylian> urlin2u, always open to other suggests my man... :)
[01:25] <bugaloo> phrosty_, you're running it with non-root user, or there is another apt/dpkg running
[01:25] <latagore> phrosty_, oh, then that means you might be updating or you are running synaptic/other package manager
[01:25] <latagore> what bugaloo said
[01:26] <phrosty_> latagore, I am not aware of another synaptic running.
[01:26] <phrosty_> How would I be able to tell
[01:26] <bugaloo> phrosty_, are you running it with sudo or root?
[01:26] <phrosty_> sudo
[01:26] <alikhj> urlin2u: sorry got disconnected - any luck?
[01:26] <urlin2u> alikhj, you have to post the url
[01:26] <bugaloo> phrosty_, if sudo is running, then you should have another apt/synaptic/dpkg running
[01:26] <Dogears> SIFTU: It all looks OK -- subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> { range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;} This is the only line apart from the default lease info.
[01:26] <hylian> latagore, article 1: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/128616-win-7-won-t-boot-after-installing-ubuntu-dual-boot.html 2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1649768 3: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/83923-where-install-ubuntu-my-system.html#post733626
[01:27] <bugaloo> try to look for it on ps ax
[01:27] <phrosty_> bugaloo, I don't but maybe a reboot will fix it?
[01:27] <alikhj> urlin2u: dang! sorry i guess my ping didnt go through the last time - http://paste.ubuntu.com/672823
[01:27] <bugaloo> phrosty_, it's possible
[01:27] <bugaloo> phrosty_, radical, but possible, hehe
[01:28] <latagore> hylian, I just wanted to make sure you were pulling something over us or that you might have been mistaken, sorry :]
[01:28] <phrosty_> Well we shall see brb lol
[01:28] <hylian> urlin2u, maybe you have heard of this, after installing ubuntu, ubuntu boots, win 7 goes to a black screen, and then either reboots or goes back to grub menu
[01:28] <hylian> latagore, no, but i do wish i had a much easier solution for alikhj, because this doesn't sound like fun. :(
[01:28] <Joe_> quit
[01:29] <Q-jackechan> bugaloo, sorry irc froze
[01:29] <Q-jackechan> you still here?
[01:29] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, that's ok
[01:29] <Q-jackechan> so, can you instruct me on how to do this through virtual box?
[01:29]  * hylian is glad he is not a dual booter anymore.
[01:29] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, oh.. it's a long way actually
[01:29] <alikhj> hylian: whats the alternative to an easier solution?
[01:30] <bluekelp> why in 11.04 does "cat file.iso > /dev/cdrom" no longer work.  I get a "bash: /dev/cdrom: Read-only file system"
[01:30] <alikhj> hylian: there's nothing on my win7 side so it's no biggie reinstalling or doing something drastic
[01:30] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, maybe you should search it on google: virtualbox windows under linux hehe
[01:30] <Q-jackechan> =/ is that a "no"?
[01:30] <bluekelp> I'm forced to use one-use tools to burn by isos
[01:30] <hylian> alikhj, i don't have one, which is why I am imploring someone else to help me, maybe someone else found a way around.
[01:30] <urlin2u> alikhj, you just need grub in the sda hard drive, follow this link 3 commands first the fdisk -l then two more to load grub, read carefully, and use a cd equal to the install.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[01:30] <bugaloo> using virtualbox to install windows is not the scope of this channel
[01:30] <wdd``> how do i dual boot windows
[01:31] <alikhj> urlin2u: what do you mean by a cd equal to the install?
[01:31] <czz> is there any known way to update your ipod touch with ubuntu 11.04?
[01:31] <szal> wdd``: first install Windows, second install Linux, done.
[01:31] <hylian> alikhj, that's good to hear. the best solution i can give is to install win7, then ubuntu, but on the other hard drive, without replacing windows 7's boot manager.
[01:31] <hylian> alikhj, or using the install ubuntu from inside win7 option
[01:31] <Q-jackechan> bugaloo, ok, i'm dling a virtual box for amd64. (i have no idea what i386 is, but i dont seem to have it.)
[01:32] <invisiblek> i386 is 32-bit
[01:32] <latagore> Alikhj, can you do me a favour and do fdisk -l ?
[01:32] <urlin2u> alikhj, first you also have grub in the sda1 partition, open that partition, using a live ubuntu cd look in boot for anything named grub and remove. equal cd is a natty install and natty cd.
[01:32] <Q-jackechan> how do you tell if you are/aren't 32 bit?
[01:32] <invisiblek> amd64 is 64-bit (doe NOT necessarily mean you have an AMD processor)
[01:32] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, i386 is a intel 32bit
[01:32] <invisiblek> Q-jackechan, uname -a
[01:32] <phrosty_> bugaloo, I now get this error when i do update in terminal dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:32] <th0r> Q-jackechan: I think you said you do not have a windows install cd. If not, virtualbox won't help you
[01:32] <latagore> alikhj, if you aren't being bombarded by people
[01:32] <shinsuke> my hdd order is sda1,23,5. where is the 4? is it because i only have 2 primary partitions? thanks.
[01:32] <bugaloo> phrosty_, try sudo dpkg --configure -a hehe
[01:33] <alikhj> latagore: haha no problem, let me run fdisk -1
[01:33] <invisiblek> Q-jackechan, uname -m (actually)
[01:33] <Q-jackechan> th0r... that's not something i wanted to hear. =.=
[01:33] <alikhj> latagore: i do this in ... terminal, right?
[01:33] <latagore> alikhj, Yep
[01:33] <phrosty_> Hmmm nothing happened. I assume it worked then?
[01:33] <[THC]AcidRain> great. i clicked cancel on a ubuntu update when it was "applying changes" because i know i entered in the wrong password. now it says check internet connection. failed to download
[01:33] <alikhj> latagore: wierd, gives me an invalid option
[01:33] <invisiblek> microsoft lets you download windows 7 isos now (no key obviously but it is a trial)
[01:33] <th0r> Q-jackechan: virtualbox creates a virtual computer that you install windows onto...just as though you had a second computer.
[01:33] <invisiblek> Q-jackechan, ^^
[01:33] <Q-jackechan> ok, so now what then?
[01:34] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone know how to fix this issue now? :/
[01:34] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, true... you need a cd install for windows
[01:34] <hylian> alikhj, yeah, in terminal it's sudo fdisk -l (small L)
[01:34] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, if you dont have one, and wine doesn't work, I have no ideas, hehe
[01:34] <latagore> alikhj, just a moment, lemme try it out here. Did you run it with root privileges? you can do that with sudo fdisk -l
[01:34] <Q-jackechan> i dont have one
[01:34] <Q-jackechan> is there anything else we can do?
[01:34] <phrosty_> bugaloo, latagore, thank you both for your help. Works perfect now :)
[01:35] <urlin2u> alikhj, if you follow me you will have everything back, don't be sidetracked.
[01:35] <bugaloo> :)
[01:35] <phrosty_> Now to figure out why i cannot login to the irc correctly ;)
[01:35] <latagore> phrosty_, I can't even remember what I did x]
[01:35] <Q-jackechan> so in other words i'm... out of luck?
[01:35] <Q-jackechan> and there's no way to do this with the mac version?
[01:35] <phrosty_> latagore, You responded ;)
[01:35] <alikhj> latagore: here's the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/672831
[01:35] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, lol... maybe... mac version isn't going to help you, I guess
[01:35] <alikhj> urlin2u: haha okay lead the way!
[01:35] <latagore> alikhj, send me a message if urlin2u can't help you
[01:36] <latagore> alikhj, follow his advice for now :]
[01:36] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, I think most likely you should try to fix the wine solution, but if you have no experience on that, maybe it'll be a bit annoying
[01:36] <urlin2u> alikhj, I have posted every thing you need to do boot a live ubuntu cd open the sda1 partition go to the boot folder and remove anything reading as grub
[01:36] <alikhj> latagore: haha, just sent you the fdisk output, let me know what you think... for now i'll look into what urlin2u says
[01:37] <alikhj> urlin2u: so the confusion with grub is that there are two instances of it?
[01:37] <urlin2u> alikhj, it is in the sda1 not supposed to be and the wrong mbr
[01:37] <macfire> how do i install ati drivers in 11.04?
[01:37] <invisiblek> !ati
[01:37] <invisiblek> !fglrx
[01:37] <alikhj> urlin2u: a ha!! and its supposed to be in sda, not sda1
[01:38] <speed_linux> how should i go about mesuring the voltages in a psu with software for ubuntu?
[01:38] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, unfortunately some developers make things only for windows... we can try to get another way, but sometimes it's just programmer fault
[01:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps having an issue in natty my package list wont parse ..  any ideas what I Can do to fix it?!?!?
[01:38] <urlin2u> alikhj, yes should have gone to sda=mbr originally
[01:38] <invisiblek> Eryn_1983_FL, does it give an error? pastebin it
[01:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
[01:38] <dsnyders> speed_linux, sell the software and buy a multimeter? :-)
[01:38] <invisiblek> probably have a broken repo
[01:39] <hylian> macfire, in the top left, under system, there is an administration tab, there it will say additional drivers, it will search for your best driver, choose the recommended driver.
[01:39] <urlin2u> alikhj, easy fix here just remove all the grub only from sda1 first
[01:39] <alikhj> urlin2u: understood - and how come i need the LiveCD for this.. can i just do this in ubuntu?
[01:39] <invisiblek> speed_linux, i agree with dsnyders, you are better off measuring with a tool that is designed for that. software would be unreliable
[01:40] <stercor> I'm trying to write a .iso to my DVD drive.  Here's the mount command: 'sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrw /cdrom' I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option...  Is there something wrong with the mount command?
[01:40] <stercor> brasero can't find it.
[01:40] <urlin2u> alikhj, didn't know ubuntu was booting but you may get away with a update-grub when grub is removed from sda1
[01:40] <invisiblek> stercor, you need -o loop
[01:40] <Crisco> quick question, I have the .deb of VirtualBox 4.0.<something> here and my installed version is 3.2
[01:40] <BryanRuiz> if i put a script in rc.local, it runs when my computer turns on, but what if i want a script to run after i log in to gnome?
[01:40] <invisiblek> Crisco, why a deb? use the repository
[01:40] <alikhj> urlin2u: yeah ubuntu boots, win7 doesnt... i tried update-grub and it had no effect
[01:40] <stercor> invisiblek: as in "-o loop"?
[01:40] <alikhj> urlin2u: let me try this solution and ill get back to you
[01:40] <invisiblek> stercor, yes, mount -o loop -t iso9660........
[01:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> http://pastebin.com/dZSS5zb3
[01:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> there ya go
[01:41] <DoctorBlackbird> how do i do these tar.bgz things with all the files but no installer
[01:41] <DoctorBlackbird> ?
[01:41] <hylian> alikhj, but we didnt remove grub form sda1, never even crossed my mind.
[01:41] <urlin2u> alikhj, cool so I think you know whats up grub never goes to windows.
[01:41] <Crisco> if I were to install the .deb of the updated one, would that overwrite the older one and would I lose my Virtual Machines if it did?
[01:41] <dsnyders> speed_linux, There is a package called sensors-detect that monitors stuff like CPU fans and temp sensors.  It may have support for PSU voltages.
[01:41] <stercor> invisiblek: Same thing.
[01:41] <latagore> urlin2u, I think we both had about the same solution
[01:41] <invisiblek> DoctorBlackbird, what are you tring to install? is not not in apt? try to find a .deb of it
[01:41] <latagore> urlin2u, I think it needs to be publicized more
[01:41] <invisiblek> stercor, sorry, if you want to write it to a disc, you won't want to mount it
[01:41] <urlin2u> hylian, the bootscript is the best tool for finding that stuff
[01:42] <alikhj> urlin2u: what im confused about is that there is no "sda" device.. theres an sda1, 2 and 3 etc... but no sda listed in the fdisk output
[01:42] <stercor> invisiblek: oh...  I'll try that.
[01:42] <urlin2u> alikhj, sda is the mbr you wont see it we know it's there the first 512mib of disc
[01:42] <hylian> urlin2u, i admit, i have never had to solve this problem. i have dual booted countless machines with grub, without complication. guess i am one lucky duck.
[01:42] <invisiblek> Eryn_1983_FL, you got something all broken there lol, never seen that one (but i haven't been on the ubuntu scene for awhile)
[01:42] <DoctorBlackbird> ?
[01:42] <alikhj> urlin2u: i see, okay gimme a sec while i try this out
[01:43] <Eryn_1983_FL> invisiblek:  LOL
[01:43] <speed_linux> dsnyders, i cant find it
[01:43] <invisiblek> Eryn_1983_FL, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/104741-solved-package-manager-errors.html
[01:43] <invisiblek> try that maybe
[01:44] <dsnyders> speed_linux, maybe I got the name wrong.  Start poking around here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6925278
[01:44] <stercor> invisiblek: brasero says "No disc available"  "Please replace the disc with a supported CD or DVD"  Is there another program that writes .isos?
[01:44] <hylian> alikhj, sda stands for your sata drive(s), and they don't start at 0. so there never is a sda, it always counts from 1.
[01:44] <alikhj> hylian: man i love how much im learning right now
[01:44] <FenrirReturns> Any advice on installing ubuntu on an Eeepc 900 now that the netbook remix isn't available?  The desktop installer wants 4.4 GB, which of course the eepc900 doesn't have
[01:44] <urlin2u> hylian, there was a time when grub was being dumped in windows, a couple of ways to fix it just manually removing it is easiest.
[01:44] <invisiblek> stercor, avidemux ive used
[01:45] <invisiblek> nvm
[01:45] <invisiblek> thats video editting
[01:45] <speed_linux> i have lm sencors
[01:45] <invisiblek> what did i use....
[01:45] <speed_linux> where is it?
[01:45] <hylian> urlin2u, thanks for the info man. good to know. the win 7 team said you had to format the whole machine. there was my first mistake.
[01:45] <urlin2u> hylian, careful with the sda, and partition numbers when reloading to the mbr sda is used.
[01:45] <hylian> urlin2u, ohh yeah. thanks again
[01:45] <speed_linux> where can i fond lm sencors so i can run it
[01:45] <invisiblek> stercor, k3b is nice (but it installs a bunch of kde libs)
[01:46] <invisiblek> as far as i'm concerned its the best burning software for linux
[01:46] <urlin2u> hylian, I tried helping the w7 team they are blockheads .;-)
[01:46] <invisiblek> speed_linux, it should be in apt
[01:46] <invisiblek> lm_sensors maybe?
[01:46] <invisiblek> lm-sensors
[01:46] <invisiblek> (with a hyphen)
[01:46] <Eryn_1983_FL> ty
[01:46] <invisiblek> figure it out Eryn_1983_FL ?
[01:47] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: Others may be able to give better advice, but I would suggest trying Lubuntu first
[01:47] <bugaloo> who's trying to burn a cd?
[01:47] <invisiblek> bugaloo, stercor is
[01:47] <bugaloo> stercor, try to run brasero with gksu
[01:47] <speed_linux> apt?
[01:47] <bugaloo> it worked for me once, hehe
[01:47] <FenrirReturns> JokesOnYou77: Thanks, I'll give that a shot
[01:47] <invisiblek> !apt | speed_linux
[01:47] <JokesOnYou77> and if that doesn't work, my next choice would be to do a command line install and then build up the system from there
[01:48] <xunubi> I'm running XFCE but prefer nautilus file manager (I have it installed along with thunar), but I'm unsure how to set nautilus to default and stop thunar launching at  boot
[01:48] <speed_linux> .....
[01:48] <hylian> FenrirReturns, there is a minimal installation method, but the trade off is you have to download everything you need, which takes a lot of bandwidth and time, so if you have both, or a lightning fast internet connetcion with no broadband restrictions,, this might be for oyu
[01:48] <FenrirReturns> JokesOnYou77: Any links to some docs on doing a command line install?
[01:48] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: Also, was there an Ubuntu version of that netbook that came out?  I just googled it and saw something about that
[01:48] <latagore> xunubi, Go to Settings > Preferred Applications
[01:48] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: I might have a bookmarks folder on it, sec
[01:48] <latagore> xunubi, whoops
[01:49] <bakiam> hey whats new features on ubuntu 11.10
[01:49] <FenrirReturns> hylian: OK, thanks, I might give that a try, my internet is just average though
[01:49] <latagore> xunubi, sorry, don't know. It's not there
[01:50] <sum1nil> can we download 11.10 yet (alpha)?
[01:50] <hylian> FenrirReturns, in case you are interested, it's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:50] <urlin2u> sum1nil, yes
[01:50] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: This is the guide I found most helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[01:50] <xunubi> latagore: you're right, it's there, and nautilus is set to default, but both are launching.
[01:50] <FenrirReturns> JokesOnYou77: Thanks, I'll read up on that one too
[01:51] <FenrirReturns> hylian: Thanks, I'll check that out
[01:51] <hylian> FenrirReturns, glad to be of service! :)
[01:51] <latagore> xunubi, you could try removing Thunar
[01:52] <bakiam> guys when we could download ubuntu 10.10 beta 2
[01:52] <bakiam> sorry 11.10
[01:52] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: Ive done a couple CL installs and it's actually a lot of fun once you get the hang of it, but I would try Lubuntu first: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[01:52] <xunubi> latagore: Just aprehensive to do that incase xfce throws a fit lol
[01:52] <LAcan> lubuntu is awesome on old hardware
[01:52] <IdleOne> bakiam: 11.10 support in #ubuntu+1 also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[01:52] <latagore> xunubi, I guess, but it is a last resort if it gets too annoying
[01:53] <JokesOnYou77> hylian: High five for being on the same page here :)
[01:53] <bugaloo> dsnyders, no dumpfile at all? hehe
[01:54] <latagore> xunubi, you could try xubuntu in two months
[01:54] <alikhj> urlin2u: hmmm im getting a "minimal BASH-like line editing is supported instead of grub menu
[01:54] <zesoze> Hi...I'm getting error while trying to enable tls in slapd ubuntu 11.04
[01:55] <xunubi> latagore: it's currently not so good?
[01:55] <hylian> JokesOnYou77, well thanks, and high five back to you :)
[01:55] <dsnyders> bugaloo, Pasta is done and eaten, lots of recursive warnings, the only dumpfile I've found is in the mplayer system files.
[01:55] <zesoze> I'm following the tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[01:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> working on it
[01:55] <urlin2u> alikhj, when you really need grub in the sda mbr.
[01:55] <latagore> xunubi, ah. I don't know the business with different variants
[01:55] <bugaloo> haha
[01:55] <paulinaperdomo> hola
[01:56] <bugaloo> too bad :)
[01:56] <hylian> paulinaperdomo, hello
[01:56] <urlin2u> alikhj, you have a natty install, and natty cd correct?
[01:56] <JokesOnYou77> LAcan: I love Lubuntu for low end systems, I got a REALLY old sony with 64MG RAM and a 333MHz processor and it ran Debian with LXDE no problem, it's been a best friend ever since
[01:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: yep
[01:56] <LAcan> JokesOnYou77, for shizzle.
[01:56] <dsnyders> bugaloo, the grep search is still running.  Hope remains.
[01:56] <bugaloo> hope so
[01:57] <urlin2u> alikhj, boot that cd and run that script again so we can see if grub is out of sda1
[01:57] <alikhj> alikhj: something wierd with it though... it just hangs at the "try ubuntu" thing... im trying to boot it off a usb instead
[01:57] <urlin2u> alikhj, did you use nomodeset to get in originally?
[01:58] <alikhj> urlin2u: never heard of nomodeset - should i try that out?
[01:58] <urlin2u> alikhj, for low graphics, probably not.
[01:59] <urlin2u> alikhj, ubuntu cd or thumb should boot in about 3 minutes.
[01:59] <littletinybaby> Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces
[01:59] <hylian> bugaloo, anyting i can do to help you or dsnyders out?
[01:59] <alikhj> urlin2u: okay let me try again..
[01:59] <alikhj> urlin2u: i had this issue before though where it just hangs infinitely
[01:59] <linuxuz3r> littletinybaby, control alt arrow
[01:59] <bugaloo> hylian, sorry?
[02:00] <littletinybaby> linuxuz3r, gratzi
[02:00] <bugaloo> I dont think so
[02:00] <urlin2u> alikhj, start with computer off.
[02:00] <bugaloo> not for me :)
[02:00] <hylian> bugaloo, never mind...
[02:00] <alikhj> urlin2u: will do - Live CD is revving up
[02:01] <dsnyders> hylian, thanks for the offer.  Got a tool that will un recurse a recursive directory loop?
[02:02] <hylian> dsnyders, never heard anyone ask for that before, i do love working on my ubuntu know how. i'll see what i can dig up
[02:02] <Eryn_1983_FL> TY for help  peps it workie
[02:03] <littletinybaby> linuxuz3r, is there a shortcut to maximize windows, or center them in my screen?
[02:03] <hylian> dsnyders, nope sorry. my head hurts now.
[02:03] <latagore> littletinybaby, maximize should be Alt F3 or Alt F5. Not sure
[02:03] <linuxuz3r> littletinybaby, nope
[02:03] <linuxuz3r> oh
[02:04] <littletinybaby> gratzi
[02:04] <latagore> linuxuz3r, I used KDE when I tried this, dunno if it works in GNOME
[02:04] <hylian> littletinybaby, double clicking in the white space of the top bar of an app will do it, also right clicking the top bar will give you a little menu to do it.
[02:05] <alikhj> urlin2u: alright man, im in
[02:05] <urlin2u> alikhj, this command will down load the script to home on the live cd. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[02:05] <littletinybaby> hylian, I'm trying not to have to use my mouse
[02:05] <dsnyders> hylian, Thanks for the attempt.
[02:05] <alikhj> urlin2u: grub is in the boot directory
[02:06] <alikhj> alikhj: i should get rid of it entirely and reinstall grub?
[02:06] <urlin2u> alikhj, ahd the results.txt give us another pastebin
[02:06] <alikhj> urlin2u: i should get rid of the grub directory and reinstall?
[02:06] <Dogears> Hi! I am trying to setup a basic DHCP server on 10.10. I have installed the program and modified the dhcpd.conf file to subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> which gives me a bad subnet number/mask combination error? any ideas?
[02:06] <urlin2u> alikhj, not sure what your talking about
[02:06] <linuxuz3r> littletinybaby, for shortcuts try system preferences keyboard shortcuts
[02:07] <alikhj> urlin2u: sorry ill just do what you say haha
[02:07] <littletinybaby> linuxuz3r, thank you very much you're the bomb
[02:07] <Dogears> The only line in the conf file is = subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> { range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;}   apart from the default lease info.
[02:07] <bugaloo> Dogears, try to change it to "subnet <IP_ADDRESS>" instead <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:08] <INFURNO> why is updating firefox on ubuntu such a pain in the ass. I'm using 3.6 and the best I can get is a zip of firefox binaries I have no idea where to put
[02:08] <hylian> littletinybaby, this is not much help but Ctrl + Alt + D enables you to quickly minimize all windows and give focus to the desktop. When all windows are minimized, this shortcut can also maximize all the windows to their previous state.
[02:08] <bugaloo> but i'm not sure if this is the problem
[02:08] <dsnyders> Dogears, <IP_ADDRESS> is not within the range.
[02:08] <FreezingCold> How can I boot into "live" by default?  I'm making a LiveCD right now
[02:08] <latagore> urlin2u, I don't think he removed grub from the boot directory is what I think he means
[02:08] <latagore> urlin2u, yet
[02:08] <hylian> littletinybaby, are you using unity or gnome?
[02:08] <alikhj> urlin2u: im getting a Permission denied
[02:09] <urlin2u> alikhj, have you opened sda1 and removed grub.
[02:09] <alikhj> urlin2u: not yet
[02:09] <Dogears> Thanks for your help!! Works fine
[02:09] <latagore> alikhj, from the drive, not the software grub
[02:09] <hylian> littletinybaby, Alt+F9/F10 – Minimize/ Maximize current window, that's the best i think i can do.
[02:09] <urlin2u> alikhj, do it then run the bootscript.
[02:10] <hylian> littletinybaby, but the "Alt+F9/F10 – Minimize/ Maximize current window" thing is for gnome.
[02:10] <alikhj> urlin2u: from the drive, not the software? what do you mean
[02:10] <latagore> hylian, whoops, looks like I got the shortcut wrong D:
[02:10] <urlin2u> open the sda1 partition you will see a boot file open it then remove anything named grub.
[02:10] <hylian> latagore, ???
[02:10] <alikhj> urlin2u: ahhh isee
[02:10] <alikhj> urlin2u: man thanks for patience and your help so far!
[02:11] <latagore> hylian, I thought it was Alt F3 or Alt F5 xP
[02:11] <FreezingCold> But yeah, how can I login to a user by default?
[02:11] <hylian> latagore, ohh, well it might be for unity, the one i was talking about is for gnome.
[02:11] <alikhj> urlin2u: i have to mount sda1 first right?
[02:11] <urlin2u> alikhj, you can see the sda1 partition in home left panel live ubuntu cd.
[02:11] <c0mrade_> A cannibal was walking through the jungle and came upon a restaurant operated by a fellow cannibal.
[02:11] <c0mrade_> Feeling somewhat hungry, he sat down and looked over the menu...
[02:11] <c0mrade_> Tourist: $5 Broiled Missionary: $10.00 Fried Explorer: $15.00
[02:11] <c0mrade_> tommychong66: Baked Democrat or Grilled Republican: $100.00
[02:12] <latagore> Hylian, well, I tried a long time ago
[02:12] <c0mrade_> The cannibal called the waiter over and asked, 'Why such a price difference for the Politicians? The cook replied, "Have you ever tried to clean one? They're so full of ****, it takes all morning."
[02:12] <urlin2u> !ot | c0mrade_
[02:12] <alikhj> urlin2u: ah, i see its just called something different
[02:12] <urlin2u> alikhj, probably is partitions are not named sda1 there.
[02:12] <c0mrade_> I thought if I would talk about anthropophagus people it would be related to Ubuntu.
[02:13] <urlin2u> alikhj, close it by clicking on the icon that appears when opening
[02:13] <alikhj> urlin2u: close what?
[02:13] <urlin2u> alikhj, once grub is cleaned out close that partition.
[02:14] <c0mrade_> How can someone return to a channel that he was banned from?
[02:14] <hylian> c0mrade_, ubuntu means community, i don't see the correlation...
[02:14] <alikhj> urlin2u: oh okay gimme a sec, still trying to finding sda1
[02:14] <c0mrade_> Change the proxy he's using?
[02:14] <c0mrade_> And I tried that.
[02:14] <c0mrade_> Changed the nickname...
[02:14] <c0mrade_> Didn't work neither.
[02:14] <alikhj> urlin2u: hmm.. its not in the left panel
[02:14] <alikhj> urlin2u: any other way to get to it?
[02:15] <alikhj> urlin2u: onevermind!! got it
[02:15] <urlin2u> alikhj, it is there, you should see two NTFS partitions there for windows.
[02:15] <urlin2u> wont be named ntfs though alikhj
[02:15] <alikhj> urlin2u: i got it... okay so grub is in the boot directory of sda1... should i delte it?
[02:15] <urlin2u> alikhj, yes
[02:15] <c0mrade_> alikhj delete everthing.
[02:16] <c0mrade_> everything*.
[02:16] <latagore> can someone get rid of c0mrade_ already
[02:16] <alikhj> c0mrade_: get lost
[02:16] <c0mrade_> You will have a smoother and faster experience while using Ubuntu.
[02:16] <urlin2u> c0mrade_, please do not spam the channel or answer questions being taken care of.
[02:16] <alikhj> urlin2u: hmmm this is annoying, it won't let me delte anything
[02:17] <c0mrade_> I want to get involved.
[02:17] <c0mrade_> I want to be part of this amazing channel.
[02:17] <latagore> any channel ops?
[02:17] <Dogget> Guys any major reason to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[02:17] <c0mrade_> If you won't let me. I am going to tell mommy about this.
[02:17] <latagore> We have a troller
[02:17] <urlin2u> alikhj, if you right click the grub ib=n the sda1 partion it will, are you sure you didn't click file and your trying to delet the Naty grub
[02:18] <c0mrade_> Ubuntu was one of my best Operating Systems.
[02:18] <c0mrade_> And still...
[02:18] <teage> I have a toshiba satellite with win7 and ubuntu installed. wireless not working under linux. anyone have this issue?
[02:18] <urlin2u> !op
[02:18] <Tech-1> its not that big of an emergency , use /ignore
[02:18] <c0mrade_> Call 911 just in case.
[02:18] <latagore> Tech-1, don't want him to be giving the wrong advice to people
[02:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> urlin2u, I went to ops to call someone. lol
[02:18] <teage> Its a brand new lappy
[02:19] <latagore> Tech-1, like he did just a moment ago
[02:19] <elky> let me know if he starts being a douche elsewhere
[02:19] <teage> how do i tell what wireless chip it has?
[02:19] <Tech-1> ok
[02:19] <alikhj> urlin2u: youre right, i was in the natty grub... but heres another problem... the sda won't mount so i cant access anything in it!!
[02:19] <alikhj> urlin2u: i see it in the left panel... its called "System Reserved" but i click it and nothing happens
[02:20] <urlin2u> alikhj, open disk manager, click on the 1r60 gig hd then sda1 then mount.
[02:20] <ArseneRe1> I'm using awesome wm on ubuntu, but since 11.04 it's not reading my .xinitrc or .xession. Any ideas?
[02:20] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, don't pm without asking.
[02:21] <alikhj> urlin2u: it says the daemon is inhibited... awesome
[02:21] <latagore> alikhj, another process is using it
[02:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok peeps I can't find the  smbfs  package to  mount to my samba shares from cli/fstab
[02:21] <urlin2u> !pm | c0mrade_
[02:21] <DeadmanIncJS> umm ok
[02:22] <alikhj> latagore: how do i close this mystery process
[02:22] <Dogget> I cannot upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 or install straight 11.04 from wubi/cd boot without encountering a blank black screen and nothing happens.
[02:22] <latagore> alikhj, you might want to ask urlin2u. I don't remember how to do it
[02:22] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, I don't remember every nic.
[02:22] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: One of the main reasons I had to upgrade was driver support for newer hardware rolled into the new kernel etc. However, I lost a lot more than I gained in upgrading.
[02:23] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, ypou were the ubuntu install with windows I believe whats up?
[02:23] <DeadmanIncJS> urlin2u, i was thinking it was you.  i can't recall nickname either.
[02:23] <DeadmanIncJS> urlin2u, oh i was just going to thank you for your efforts... i got it working and couldn't be happier :)
[02:23] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Be very careful and do your research before upgrading to Natty. I lost all of my compiz customizations and got loaded up with (what I think is) a worthless UI that just takes up space on my HDD
[02:24] <Dogget> Jokes: So in your opinion it is not worth upgrading to 11.04 apart from drivers issues etc?
[02:24] <FreezingCold> Some on, does nobody know?!
[02:24] <FreezingCold> I can't google it because it's too short
[02:24] <latagore> alikhj, since he seems to be busy, I'll look it up for you
[02:24] <hylian> FreezingCold, sorry, didn't catch the question
[02:25] <urlin2u> alikhj, since you know not what your doing you have opened sda2 I suspect
[02:25] <FreezingCold> hylian, I'm making a liveCD.  When I boot off of it, I currently have to type "live" at "boot: " to get it started.  How can I get it to do that auto?
[02:25] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, cool
[02:25] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: I wouldn't be so quick to completely dismiss its merits, I think that done properly it could work.  But full disclosure, if I can get sleep and hibernate to work I'm going back to 10.04
[02:25] <sandman2211> Hey, mind if I ask for some help w/ some monitor config problems I'm having?
[02:26] <hylian> FreezingCold, hmm, never made a live cd of my own, let me take a look, brb
[02:26] <FreezingCold> Thank you hylian !
[02:26] <sandman2211> I did the prerequisite 2 hours of futile googling and trying random stuff
[02:26] <dsnyders> FreezingCold, Any reason you're making a CD instead of a bootable USB flash?
[02:27] <Dogget> Jokes: I got you. I am definitely having a graphical issue when trying to install 11.04. I am running an ati 6850 card and it works fine in 10.10 but in 11.04 there are issues for sure.
[02:27] <hylian> FreezingCold, i just remembered, ubuntu live cd's don;t auto to live cd. they wait in case you intent is just to install, i will look for a solution though,
[02:27] <FreezingCold> dsnyders, so it can't be edited.  This is for key management
[02:27] <FreezingCold> * hylian
[02:27] <FreezingCold> hylian, I built mine from the base, it doesn't have any of that stuff
[02:27] <qbert_> where are my smtp logs I cant seem to find them anywhere ?
[02:28] <sandman2211> I'm having some graphics problems in 11.04 too... GeForce 7900 GT
[02:28] <sandman2211> All I want is 1280x1024 resolution :(
[02:28] <JokesOnYou77> FreezingCold: Are you using a program to build it?
[02:28] <FreezingCold> Nope
[02:28] <FreezingCold> Just chrooting ;)
[02:29] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Did you say you're running under windows with wubi?
[02:29] <urlin2u> sandman2211, have you tested that resolution with xrandr?
[02:29] <sandman2211> Yeah, but I get an error, can't get anything to work in xrandr
[02:29] <sandman2211> Tried addmode, newmode, etc
[02:30] <hylian> FreezingCold, it's been a long time, so if this option is no longer available, forgive me. is casper present on your live cd image? casper is the autologin system
[02:30] <sandman2211> it says xrandr failed to get size gamma
[02:30] <FreezingCold> Uhhh, not sure
[02:30] <FreezingCold> I have a casper folder
[02:30] <hylian> sandman2211, did you install the proper driver for that card?
[02:30] <sandman2211> tried a dozen different xorg.conf setups but it just ignores them
[02:30] <urlin2u> sandman2211, just wondering , that is about all I know otherwise.
[02:31] <Dogget> Well I did that yes, as I didn't want to play with my partition. I will do a proper install once I format the hdd after a hardware upgrade etc.
[02:31] <sandman2211> Yeah, it's on "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current)
[02:31] <JokesOnYou77> FreezingCold: That's hard core. My understanding is that there are components of the live system in SquashFS that set certain parameters for live mode, things like desktop icon layout and other some more important stuff, and your issue might be somewhere in there
[02:32] <sandman2211> The first time I installed that driver it hosed my system and I had to reinstall.  Worked the 2nd time.  Weird.
[02:32] <hylian> sandman2211, and that's ofcoars, the on it recommended, right?
[02:32] <Dogget> Jokes: It doesn't matter if I try Wubi/CD boot or upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 the same issue occurs.
[02:32] <FreezingCold> JokesOnYou77, I've already tried LFCE on it and it runs
[02:32] <FreezingCold> layout is fine
[02:32] <sandman2211> Yeah it says [recommended] after taht
[02:32] <FreezingCold> Just that it waits for me at "boot:
[02:32] <FreezingCold> "
[02:33] <hylian> FreezingCold, well, you stumped me, here is the live cd manual. it has the info on how to do the opposite of what you want, which is to remove casper. it's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization. wish i culd help more.
[02:33] <FreezingCold> Yeah, already gone over that
[02:33] <JokesOnYou77> FreezingCold: Then you're over my head.  I think hylian might be on the right track with casper, that's just conjecture tho.
[02:34] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Where is Ubuntu installed to? it's own partition, or did you install it in Windows?
[02:34] <hylian> sandman2211, so when you go to the nvidia x server config in system -> administration, it doesn't offer you any higher resolution?
[02:34] <urlin2u> alikhj, so where you at disk manager will mount and unmount all partitions, if you click on the 160 gig HD close sda and sda2
[02:34] <urlin2u> sd1
[02:34] <Dogget> Jokes: using Wubi
[02:34] <Dogget> Just easier for the time being
[02:34] <urlin2u> alikhj, sorry unmount sda1 and sda2
[02:35] <Crisco> how can I decrease the size of my 4GB desktop.couch file?
[02:35] <sandman2211> There's an 1152x864 and a 1360x768 option also.  I'm pretty close to just saying "screw it" and go w/ 1152
[02:35] <urlin2u> Dogget, your trying to install 11.p4 with a wubi install?
[02:36] <urlin2u> 11.04
[02:36] <sandman2211> but I'm giving the PC to a friend who I've been telling how awesome ubuntu everything is for the last few weeks, and that's pretty tacky to just say "it's stuck that way"
[02:36] <sandman2211> I think it's the older hardware.  I built a new one for myself and haven't had a single problem with anything
[02:36] <latagore> urlin2u, do you think you have alikhj's problem under control? Sorry for my rudeness. I'm out if you do
[02:37] <urlin2u> latagore, they are not answering I'm trying. ;-)
[02:37] <Dogget> Jokes: I tried, it didn't work. I tried using a cd and boot from it, I don't get past the install option. I also tried doing an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04. The upgrade went through, after the reboot the same issue with the black screen happened and nothing on the screen for me to look at.
[02:37] <hylian> Crisco, you could follow the steps to minimize the size of the bookmarks.couch file, as listed here, i think: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood/+question/162623
[02:38] <Rafase282> how can I copy everying on a img to another?
[02:38] <Rafase282> including format
[02:38] <urlin2u> Dogget, you can use a lowgraphic boot.
[02:38] <Crisco> hylian thank you
[02:38] <hylian> Crisco, i meant use the bookmarks info for desktop
[02:38] <Rafase282> im trying to resize a img with linux in it to a bigger img
[02:38] <Dogget> Jokes: That is what I am thinking about Jokes, the alternate cd!
[02:39] <Dogget> But I don't want to lose all my settings and stuff from 10.10 :-(
[02:39] <latagore> urlin2u, well, I think actually my solution is the same as yours except that there may be two boot directories in his /dev/sda1; /boot and /Boot. NTFS systems can't handle that, so that might be the reason.
[02:39] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Unforunately, I'm really not familiar with Wubi as I have never used it.  Also, I think you're confusing your helpers a bit
[02:39] <kapipi> Dogget: You could backup your home (should do that in any case) and install / on a new partition leaving the old one in place if you wan't to go back.
[02:39] <urlin2u> latagore, possible, I know what your mean.
[02:40] <urlin2u> you mean latagore
[02:40] <latagore> urlin2u, it happened to me, so that's why I suggest it
[02:40] <FreezingCold> hylian, I have casper setup fine
[02:40] <Crisco> hylian: I get told that firefox can't connect to it D:
[02:40] <hylian> Dogget, you can actually back those up, if you back up everything in /home/user/ you will also back up everything that you had set up, provided that you still use gnome instead of unity when you update. some stuff would be transfered regardeless, but some of the gnome specific stuff would not.
[02:40] <FreezingCold> It's like when the CD boots up, it just goes to a screen saying "boot: "
[02:40] <urlin2u> latagore, probably being helped of the channel, no biggie we all want it to run.
[02:40] <FreezingCold> I enter "live" and it starts up
[02:41] <Dogget> @Jokes Sorry I am not trying to confuse anyone. I think it is just a fact that the 2d graphic is not willing to start properly under 11.04 for me, at least this is what I am concluding.
[02:41] <latagore> urlin2u, sorry, I don't understand what you just said
[02:41] <hylian> Crisco, i yiy yiy. i wish i had more knowledge, i never use the couch database.
[02:41] <Yukinoroh> hello
[02:41] <Yukinoroh> I need help
[02:41] <urlin2u> latagore, somebody is probably helping them in PM, no biggie.
[02:41] <Dogget> Yes I am using Gnome
[02:41] <Yukinoroh> can't input a password in Java when using SCIM
[02:42] <Yukinoroh> did the ubuntu team break something? it used to work before
[02:42] <latagore> urlin2u, alright. Well, good luck if he asks you for help again
[02:42] <Crisco> hylian: neither do I, I don't even know what it does
[02:42] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: My understanding is that Wubi is essentially a virtual machine, did you get a backup of your files?  Also, I meant conflating, not confusing, as you were calling urlin2u Jokes
[02:42] <urlin2u> latagore, thanks it is an easy fix, it just needs to be done correctly in the correct order.
[02:43] <hylian> FreezingCold, hmm, that sounds like grub is waiting to see which kernel file you are going to choose, unless you are using lilo... either way though, i think that's your answer, somewhere in a file, there is nothing specified for an autologin kernel image.
[02:43] <zesoze> Where can I find help to setup a OpenLDAPin ubuntu 11.04
[02:43] <Crisco> hylian: what does it do?
[02:43] <zesoze> the server guide is not working for TLS support
[02:44] <Dogget> @Sorry for the typo then. To be honest I don't want reinstalling Ubuntu at all if I am sure 11.04 will install fine. Now I never tried the non graphic install, will it be that different from the normal install?
[02:44] <kapipi> Yukinoroh: I tried googling "scim java password" and it shows a lot of bug reports related to various distributions. So probably its not ubuntu specific.
[02:45] <hylian> Crisco, it's a database design to be sql free, and useable among a large amount of different kinds of devices. so you could make a database listing your favorite shoes, and teir prices, and then use couch db to port it to your blackberry, or even your linux based toaster, if you had one :)
[02:45] <urlin2u> JokesOnYou77, conflation is my middle name. ;-)
[02:45] <kapipi> Yukinoroh: On a side note, I recommend using ibus and ibus-mozc instead of scim.
[02:45] <Crisco> oh...
[02:45] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I think I may need to de-curse my folders after all.  It is taking too long
[02:45] <Crisco> I don't think I really have a use for that
[02:46] <hylian> Crisco, i have an amazing amount of useless knowledge in my head.
[02:46] <bugaloo> dsnyders   :\
[02:46] <vasi> is there a package-aware backup tool, that knows not to backup files from packages that are unchanged in the local fs?
[02:46] <hylian> Crisco, about 1% of us do, and i am not of that 1%,
[02:46] <vasi> (OpenSuSE has something like that)
[02:46] <tonsofpcs> vasi: cp /home /mnt/backup
[02:46] <Crisco> hylian: no, I meant I don't really have a use for CouchDB, not that information
[02:47] <Mankool> Is there anyone here who has run or could help me figure out how to run 2 graphics cards, 1 ati, 1 nvidia? I've been online searching + xorg.conf'ing a lot, but nothing seems to work.
[02:47] <hylian> Crisco, that's what i meant too.. :)
[02:47] <Crisco> I'll probably remember that and help someone else some time when they are wondering what it is
[02:47] <dsnyders> bugaloo, how does one grep for '->'
[02:47] <vasi> tonsofpcs, that does a rather poor job of backing up configuration settings, the list of packages, etc
[02:47] <bugaloo> dsnyders, I missed what you mean
[02:48] <Hoyt> hi , was sun-java6 removed from ubuntu ?
[02:48] <Hoyt> in 11.04 edition
[02:48] <bazhang> Hoyt, in partner
[02:48] <urlin2u> Hoyt, you have to instal it I believe
[02:48] <bazhang> !partner | Hoyt
[02:49] <Yukinoroh> Hoyt: I can confirm it's not.... but jpasswordfields do not work
[02:49] <hylian> Mankool, i have heard of 2 ati's, or 2 nvidia's, but crossing the streams is dangerous lol. i'll take a look for you and see what i can dig up... :)
[02:49] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, sure it is, it's in partner repo
[02:49] <Mankool> hylian, thanks.. yeah from what i've heard, few have crossed streams and lived to tell
[02:49] <bazhang> !java | Hoyt
[02:50] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Command line installs really aren't all that bad, if you want a bit more control select "Expert Mode" and if you don't know what something is, make sure you read everything it says and don't change it if you don't understand it. I would reccomend grabbing a copy of VirtualBox and trying it there first, just to be sure
[02:50] <Yukinoroh> bazhang: it is installed here, but password fields do not work... I suppose the ubuntu team forgot to test it against SCIM
[02:50] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I am going to use the tree -fid command which lists files as \path\to\file.  It lists links as \path\to\link->\realpath\realfile.  If I can filter the output through grep, I'll have a lot less output to sort through.
[02:50] <Mankool> hylian: I'm not looking to get compiz-amazing results, i just wnat to be able to run 3 montors, 2 on my ati and 1 on my nvidia, and the nvidia can even be a separate X if its easier
[02:50] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, use ibus for that
[02:51] <Yukinoroh> bazhang: the ibus UI is obstrusive
[02:51] <Mankool> hylian: though for starters, just 1 mon ati 1 mon nvidia would be great
[02:51] <Hoyt> great , thanks for all your help , i'm downloading that package now ;-P
[02:51] <kapipi> Yukinoroh: As I wrote above, it seems it's not an Ubuntu specific issue.
[02:51] <Yukinoroh> hrm
[02:52] <cerebellum> hi there
[02:52] <bugaloo> dsnyders, maybe you should combine it with awk or cut
[02:52] <cerebellum> perl either?
[02:52] <Yukinoroh> hm... I found a workaround anyway... seems like pasting it with middle button works
[02:52] <hylian> Mankool, does the second card work at all? (minimalised gfx ofcoarse...)
[02:52] <cerebellum> is there anyone who can offer a connection??
[02:53] <cerebellum> for penetration purpose
[02:53] <hylian> cerebellum, to what?
[02:53] <urlin2u> cerebellum, to what?
[02:53] <chroot> ls
[02:53] <urlin2u> doh
[02:53] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I am not aware of cut, and I don't know how to use awk.
[02:53] <hylian> urlin2u, lol. jinx!
[02:53] <Rafase282> can someone help me resize a img file?
[02:53] <sandman2211> Mankool: I tried 3 monitors once, couldn't get it working.  Mine were all in 1 Nvidia card tho
[02:53] <Mankool> hylian: i can get my ati to work separate with any driver, and my nvidia same... but together i can't even get them to work using fbdev or vesa
[02:53] <urlin2u> cerebellum, you running backtrack?
[02:53] <Dogget> @Jokes do you want using VM to try 11.04?
[02:54] <cerebellum> slackware
[02:54] <Mankool> hylian: i've also been trying ati using fglrx and nvidia using vesa, and ati-fglrx and nvidia-fbdev
[02:54] <Dogget> Sorry do you mean not want!
[02:54] <sandman2211> They like TwinView but you can only do that w/ 2 screens.  Twinview + separate X window wouldn't work
[02:54] <cerebellum> 13.37 64bit
[02:54] <cerebellum> having problem with the code for buffer overflow
[02:54] <cerebellum> for cisco
[02:54] <sandman2211> couldn't have 3 separate X windows either
[02:54] <J466> how can i force to install a software on ubuntu if there is no connection? becuase when i click on the file it starts software center and it's trying to contact the site
[02:54] <J466> tooooo long.. eh?
[02:54] <J466> READ IT!
[02:54] <Mankool> sandman2211: yeah, with my ati card i'd need a displaylink adapter to get 3 on one card, but i had the extra nvidia card so i wanted to get it working 3 mons without buying anything
[02:55] <cerebellum> yes backtrack
[02:55] <cerebellum> BT On Slackware
[02:55] <cerebellum> vmware
[02:55] <bazhang> !backtrack | cerebellum
[02:55] <uns0b1ll> xubuntu need help with static IP :)
[02:55] <sandman2211> It's got to be possible, but I never found it.  Most of the ubuntu problems I find on google only have 2-3 solutions repeated 100 times over, and that was one of them
[02:56] <bazhang> cerebellum, neither are supported here
[02:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: sorry about the delay, just made it into sda1
[02:56] <Hoyt> uns0b1ll: check /etc/network/interfaces
[02:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: i mean sda
[02:56] <cerebellum> i see
[02:56] <cerebellum> any advice?
[02:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: surprisingly, no grub in there
[02:56] <cerebellum> for the connection?
[02:56] <bazhang> cerebellum, yes. join their channel, dont ask here
[02:56] <cerebellum> bounce IP perhaps
[02:56] <Mankool> sandman2211: yeah i know, google solves almost all seemingly solvable ubuntu problems... except for the rough ones like this ati&nvidia 3 mons
[02:56] <uns0b1ll> Hoyt, currently dhcp set there
[02:56] <cerebellum> no need private connection
[02:56] <J466> HELP MEEEEE
[02:57] <bazhang> cerebellum, that has zero to do with ubuntu support, please dont ask here further
[02:57] <Hoyt> uns0b1ll: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[02:57] <cerebellum> i can send the IP of the target... for testing purpose
[02:57] <bazhang> !ot | cerebellum
[02:57] <uns0b1ll> Hoyt, funny thing i set it exactly like that
[02:57] <J466> ok i don't need you!
[02:58] <J466> i will do it by my self
[02:58] <Onlyodin> Does anyone here have any preferences/recommendations for virtualisation on Ubuntu (desktop)? Decent graphics performance is desirable.
[02:58] <uns0b1ll> Hoyt, but was only able to ping router and nothing else
[02:58] <cerebellum> OK
[02:58] <sandman2211> Yeah, so it could go 1 of 2 ways.  Most likely, it's going to be really tough since it's not even easy if you have all 3 monitors plugged into the same vid card
[02:58] <Mankool> There's gotta be a better way to debug X right? I mean i've been using /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but when you get the weird hanging with logs seemingly cut off, it gets rough
[02:58] <JokesOnYou77> Doggett, I'd try that and/or running it as a live CD to figure out if it's worth it for you.  Putting it in a VM will let you go through the install process in a controlled environment as well so you know what you're in for
[02:58] <sandman2211> but maybe having 1 of them be ATI will work because it will overcome that twinview problem.  I dunno...good luck w/ that
[02:59] <Friar> hi
[02:59] <Friar> Is banshee supposed to be able to get track information automatically from the internet on an audio CD? mine isn't.
[02:59] <Mankool> sandman2211: thank you, i'm hoping i can figure out some way to debug X, if all else fails maybe i'll have to do some crazy backtracing gdb stuff... which would suck, but i'm determined
[03:00] <bugaloo> I'll try again hehe...  I have a dv2000 hp notebook, and I just can't see my headphones volume control, also my speakers doesn't mute when I plug the headphones. Plus, if I choose to sound only goes to the right speaker, it only goes to my right ear on headphones. if I put the sound 'center', it goes to the both ears AND speakers. Does anyone knows how can I configure it right? Using ubuntu 10.04 but the problems happened since 8.10
[03:00] <sandman2211> Cool, if you find a way to force a monitor to display at 1280x1024 (just 1 monitor, nothing fancy) let me know!  I tried everything google recommended, no luck
[03:00] <Mankool> I'd be happy if I could even run 2 cards working with ati-vesa nvidia-vesa
[03:02] <Mankool> sandman2211: is 1280 x 1024 a native res for your monitor size?
[03:02] <sandman2211> yeah, but it keeps sticking at 1024x768, can go as high as 1152x864.  1280 just isn't an option
[03:03] <Mankool> hmm odd indeed
[03:03] <sandman2211> I tried messing w/ xorg, the nvidia settings, the default monitor settings
[03:04] <sandman2211> There's a whole bunch of suggestions for using xrandr on the cli to fix that, but xrandr errors out for me
[03:04] <sandman2211> says failed to get size of gamma for output
[03:04] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: I haven't been listening to the entire discussion, but would a separate Xsession window work? Not terribly convenient but it can make a nice workaround
[03:04] <sandman2211> The google suggestions for that aren't quite as many, and I don't understand most of what they say
[03:05] <sandman2211> JokesOnYou, thanks for hte suggestion but I'm only trying to get 1 screen to work right here
[03:05] <sandman2211> I have a newer PC w/ dual screens and all that, never had a problem with anything.
[03:05] <sandman2211> this older one i'm giving to a friend is kind of a headache though
[03:05] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: actually, you can probably just edit the xconfig file.  I'm really not the person to tell you how to do it, but that will definitely let you force the resolution
[03:05] <dooglus> every time I ssh onto a remote machine, it asks me for my key's passphrase
[03:06] <sandman2211> is xconfig different than xorg.conf?
[03:06] <dooglus> on my other ubuntu machine, it only asks once
[03:06] <dooglus> what am I missing on this one?
[03:06] <Mankool> hylian: any luck?
[03:06] <rypervenche> dooglus: Which versions are they running?
[03:06] <dooglus> rypervenche: 11.04
[03:06] <cerebellum> back to this channel
[03:06] <JokesOnYou77> probably not.  I know there's a text file that will let you do what you're asking tho...you try the Ubuntu documentation pages yet?
[03:07] <rypervenche> dooglus: Might have something to do with ssh-agent
[03:07] <JoeR1> I would like to change the text for a specific action by which I mean I want to change it from "Empty Trash" to Exterminate Trash"
[03:07] <cerebellum> ok guys Im running ubuntu now
[03:07] <dooglus> rypervenche: ssh-agent isn't running, and I've been unable to get it to run
[03:07] <sandman2211> yeah, I think you're talking about xorg.conf.  It has sections for displays, monitors, mice, all that
[03:07] <cerebellum> BT 5 for penetration
[03:07] <cerebellum> can anyone offer connection?
[03:07] <sandman2211> I changed that a dozen different ways but it just ignores anything I put in there
[03:07] <bazhang> cerebellum, thats not ubuntu
[03:07] <cerebellum> IP Bounce
[03:07] <cerebellum> YMLF
[03:08] <bazhang> cerebellum, and what you are asking is way beyond channel support
[03:08] <JokesOnYou77> That's it.  Did that not work?
[03:08] <JoeR1> I would like to change the text for a specific action by which I mean I want to change it from "Empty Trash" to Exterminate Trash" does anyone know hwo to do this?
[03:08] <Mankool> aha! I have found something i haven't been including in my xorg.conf attempts... anyone know if Section "ServerFlags" Option "Multihead" EndSection does something important?
[03:08] <dooglus> rypervenche: any idea what's going on here?  http://pastebin.com/pcaCQCgw
[03:08] <bazhang> cerebellum, ymlfos is also not supported here
[03:08] <cerebellum> any hacker here?
[03:08] <bazhang> cerebellum, wrong channel
[03:08] <sandman2211> Nope, didn't work
[03:08] <cerebellum> OS doesn't  covered the channel..
[03:09] <bazhang> cerebellum, sure it does. this is UBUNTU support only
[03:09] <cerebellum> whatever ur OS is..u can still connect a channel and get the connection
[03:09] <cerebellum> YLMFOS is ubuntu based..
[03:09] <cerebellum> so y not??
[03:10] <bazhang> cerebellum, and not supported here. please dont ask again.
[03:10] <dooglus> rypervenche: if I "ssh-agent -d", it stays alive and accepts connections
[03:11] <hylian> Mankool, sorry, no. i would think this would be dooable, but i know that each driver set comes with controls for .xinitrc, and they probably would collide. my intuition is that it would be possible by installing both drivers, and then setting up x manually.. but i can't say for sure,,,
[03:11] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: grrr....I got nothin lol.  I do know that there should be a plethora of documentation on this kind of thing as the X-server was the bane of many would-be Ubuntu users for a long time.  What drivers are you using, and is this for the old computer or your dulamonitor one?
[03:11] <Mankool> hylian: know anything about OPtion "MultiHead" in ServerLayout?
[03:11] <Friar> is there a way to get banshee to automatically get track info from a CD?
[03:12] <sandman2211> its for the old computer.  It has an Nvidia 7900 GT card, using the latest recommended drivers from the "Additional Drivers" area
[03:12] <sandman2211> single monitor only
[03:12] <chroot> en
[03:12] <Jeruvy> Friar: I believe you need to use freedb for that.
[03:13] <sandman2211> The closest I could get for an answer was the monitor wasn't reporting back what it was.  EDID or something like that
[03:13] <hylian> Mankool, i am afraid i don't i found this on google: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/xorg.conf.5.html, but you probably saw that yourself...
[03:13] <sandman2211> But why's it so hard to just tell it what to use?
[03:14] <macfire> i need install ati driver
[03:14] <hylian> Friar, it doesn't get the track info frm the cd usually, it taps a service on the net.
[03:14] <Friar> Jeruvy, thanks, I'm looking into it.....hylian, thanks.
[03:15] <macfire> but i cant install
[03:15] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: This is definitely above my head, but it might be that the driver simply doesn't include that as a possible resolution.  There should be a way around that tho
[03:15] <hylian> macfire, no luck in drivers huh. what is the make and model of your gfx card?
[03:16] <hylian> macfire, also, why can't you install it?>
[03:16] <sandman2211> Yeah, I appreciate the help though
[03:16] <macfire> radeon hd 6850 hydh
[03:16] <sandman2211> So another quick question - in the terminal using "cd"
[03:16] <urlin2u> macfire, this command will identify the card post that info.  lspci | grep VGA
[03:16] <macfire> radeon hd 6850 hylian
[03:16] <sandman2211> how do I cd to a different drive?  trying to get to sda
[03:16] <hylian> macfire, you don't know how to install it, or it gives you an error message?
[03:17] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: This might not be the right direction, but you could try and see if Nvidia has a different driver version for you and install wit hthese instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:17] <macfire> hylian error message, but i reinstal ubuntu
[03:17] <hylian> macfire, what did it say?
[03:18] <macfire> hylian the option (for ati), does not appear in additional drivers
[03:18] <rypervenche> sandman2211: cd /media, then ls to see the drives available
[03:18] <hylian> macfire, so there where no options at all?
[03:18] <sandman2211> cool, thanks!
[03:19] <rypervenche> sandman2211: or at least the mounted drives....would you like a PDF to better learn the command line?
[03:19] <urlin2u> macfire, the xswat ppa may be where a driver is
[03:19] <macfire> urlin2u ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates?
[03:19] <sandman2211> nope that worked, thanks!
[03:19] <urlin2u> macfire, that not working?
[03:20] <macfire> urlin2u one minute, let me try again!
[03:20] <_Neytiri_> i was wondering if anyone knew how to make a script that can  read a text file and then creat user accounts based on that file?
[03:21] <urlin2u> macfire, y=run a update && upgrade after adding the ppa/
[03:21] <edbian> _Neytiri_: sure (sounds easy)
[03:22] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: Wait, did that actually work? Just like that?
[03:22] <fhenning09> Hey does anyone know of an application that can give audible, really grab your attention gmail notifications cause I need to know when an email comes in right as they come in, any solutions, suggestions, any help would be greatly appreciated.
[03:22] <sandman2211> no, i was asking a dumb question about the cd command
[03:23] <_Neytiri_> edbian,  you think you might be able to help me or point me in the right direction
[03:23] <Onlyodin> fhenning09, like, a mail client?
[03:23] <JokesOnYou77> ahh, ok lol.  Also, if you find something in the documentation you don't understand, come back and ask the channel to interpret it, that's what we're here for
[03:23] <edbian> _Neytiri_: sure.  Wanna PM?
[03:23] <sandman2211> that article you linked to also just mentions the xrandr approach.  Guess I need to figure out how to fix that
[03:23] <sandman2211> ok thanks!
[03:23] <_Neytiri_> yes
[03:26] <urlin2u> fhenning09, I have thunderbird picking up gmail but a custom setup with edu email
[03:26] <fhenning09> notice Onlyodin really just a small notification app that can sit in my indicators on the panel
[03:27] <Onlyodin> Evolution (and probably Thunderbird) will control the mail indicator icon in the panel, give notifications, play sounds, etc.
[03:27] <fhenning09> Oh cool well I'll give em a try
[03:28] <JokesOnYou77> fhenning09: I don't know of anything off the top of my head, but for your requirement of something loud and grabbing, you could probably just use any notifier and change the notification sound and default volume
[03:29] <Onlyodin> Does anyone here have any preferences/recommendations for virtualisation on Ubuntu (desktop)? Decent graphics performance is desirable.
[03:29] <Onlyodin> err
[03:29] <fhenning09> I like VirtualBox
[03:29] <sandman2211> Onlyodin - are you doing 3d stuff in your VM?
[03:29] <Onlyodin> Did I just part or get kicked?
[03:30] <hylian> macfire, there is no realeased driver for that card yet, except one in beta stages. it is available here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystOpenGL42BetaLinux.aspx
[03:30] <Onlyodin> sandman2211, 3D acceleration would be a bonus, but I guess not a requirement
[03:30] <uns0b1ll> is it possible to view speed of file transfer in console ?
[03:31] <sandman2211> I second the VirtualBox recommendation but I've never tried graphics stuff in any of my VMs.
[03:31] <sandman2211> I hear VirtualBox does well for Netflix streaming and such
[03:31] <macfire> hylian how i install this drivers?
[03:31] <Onlyodin> are there ppa's for VirtualBox?
[03:31] <macfire> hylian sudo sh file?
[03:32] <Onlyodin> Alternatively I spose I could get a VMware Workstation licence through work...
[03:32] <sandman2211> what's ppa?
[03:32] <fhenning09> Me either just use Virtualbox for stuff like running Adobe creative suite and dtuff I need that I can't get wine to work with
[03:32] <Onlyodin> repository?
[03:32] <hylian> macfire, first you have to download it. then you will have to log in in safe mode or stop x11's service, called gdm, and then you will have to run the program, are you fairly knowledgeable about linux?
[03:33] <sandman2211> VMWare Workstation licenses are free now I think
[03:33] <Onlyodin> oh, really?
[03:33] <hylian> * not called gdm, i mist be tired.
[03:33] <hylian> macfire, yes, but not while x is running.
[03:33] <sandman2211> Yeah, as of 3 years ago when I last tried.  I had to register my email address and phone number and all that, then they email some keys
[03:34] <sandman2211> But I haven't used it in 3 years so maybe that changed.  I use VirtualBox now and performance is the same or better, GUI is easy to use, pretty simple and to the point
[03:34] <Onlyodin> Are you sure you're not thinking of ESXi?
[03:34] <Onlyodin> or VMware Server rather than workstation?
[03:35] <macfire> hylian how i stop ?
[03:35] <macfire> hylian how i stop X?
[03:35] <fhenning09> just open it with the package manager
[03:35] <sandman2211> I cant remember, could have been one of those
[03:35] <hylian> macfire to stop x11, you will need to type this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. now, make sure to write this all down, because after you succeed at this, you will no longer have the desktop, it will be a black screen with a cursro
[03:36] <hylian> macfire, *cursor.
[03:36] <macfire> ok
[03:36] <kevin> 有装防火墙的必要吗
[03:36] <wildbat> !cn | kevin
[03:37] <bazhang> !ufw > kevin
[03:37] <hylian> macfire, depending on what type of file it is, you may have to gain ownership of it, by typeing chown a+x (name of file), then ./(name of file) without the () ofcorase.
[03:37] <JokesOnYou77> hylian: Wait, he'll still have a cursor after stopping X?
[03:37] <macfire> hylian file is .run
[03:37] <hylian> the blinking i beam yes.
[03:37] <macfire> i read the readme
[03:37] <hylian> JokesOnYou77, or i should say the blinking box.
[03:38] <macfire> hylian http://www2.ati.com/relnotes/Catalyst_11.7_Linux_Installer.pdf
[03:38] <hylian> macfire, good, then you will want to sh (name of file) after chown a+x (name of file)
[03:38] <bugaloo> how can I reload my sound drivers (snd-hda-intel) without reboot?
[03:39] <JokesOnYou77> hylian: Ahh, just checking
[03:39] <bugaloo> I tried alsa force-reload but it doesn't seem to reload actually
[03:40] <laxonmind> hi I am new to irc. I signed up on the ubuntu forms but never get the confirmation email have try 2 email account and check the spam fold.  I have a dv2000 hp laptop
[03:50] <bugaloo> hylian, i have a stupid problem with sound card since ubuntu 8.04 and I never could solve it
[03:50] <bugaloo> times to times I try, but never got success, hehe
[03:51] <hylian> bugaloo, good. some companies where shipping their machines with an ati sound card for regular use,  and that intel chipset for hdmi sound, and the two fight each other in linux, because one uses pulse audio, and the other uses alsa
[03:51] <phrostbite> Is there a setting in the ubuntu defaults the will allow you to always connect you to everything through a proxy whether it's an app or a browser?
[03:52] <hylian> bugaloo, you should go into your bios, and see if you can find two sound devices, and if you can, turn one off, preferably the intel.
[03:52] <bugaloo> hylian, it's a bit old computer here... I'm sure there is a way to fix it, but I never found it... found some forum guys with the same problem and no solution
[03:52] <bugaloo> hylian, my sound works fine... it just doesn't work as I'd wish with headphones
[03:53] <hylian> bugaloo, ohh that problem, yes. i don't know why, but it sends the output to the wrong channel. never figured that one out myself.
[03:53] <bugaloo> hylian, yeah... it seems it doesn't recognize the headphones propely
[03:54] <hylian> macfire, did you get any success
[03:54] <bugaloo> it doesn't mute my speakers and so on
[03:54] <renzhi> Hi, I plug in my android phone, but Ubuntu does not recognize it, I got the error:
[03:54] <renzhi> hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
[03:54] <renzhi> can someone give a hint what's going wrong?
[03:55] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: I have the exact same problem on my desktop, never bothered to figure it out cause it tunrs out I get a much better signal going straight into the audio out
[03:56] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, yep... it happens that sometimes I want to see some video on my laptop without bother other people
[03:56] <KM0201> renzhi: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:57] <phrostbite> Is there a setting in the ubuntu defaults the will allow you to always connect you to everything through a proxy whether it's an app or a browser?
[03:57] <hylian> renzhi, are you using a usb hub?
[03:57] <driller_work> hey all - let's assume you are adminstrating a huge amount of ubuntu servers (no GUI) -- what type of deployment system would you prefer? I am looking at something where I can easily update X amount of machines with a image/snapshot I've created on one machine
[03:57] <renzhi> hylian: no
[03:57] <urlin2u> renzhi, have you tried #android over 400 people shown
[03:57] <renzhi> just the usb cable provided in the box
[03:57] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: This is really a shot in the dark, but is there any chance that pulse settings has multiple outputs you can check?
[03:57] <bugaloo> and I get really pissed when I cant solve a problem, hehe
[03:58] <dsnyders> driller_work, You might wish to take a look at ghost for linux
[03:58] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, I really dont know... i'm kinda stupid about how pulse works... I've tried to change some alsa settings, but I'm a bit lost about pulse
[03:58] <renzhi> urlin2u: it used to work just fine, then suddenly, nothing works, I figure it might an ubuntu issue
[03:58] <dsnyders> driller_work, Oh, and clonezilla
[03:59] <urlin2u> renzhi, take out the flashcard and try, would be my first try.
[03:59] <KM0201> renzhi: http://osdir.com/ml/Android-Developers/2011-08/msg02252.html
[03:59] <hylian> renzhi, i did some research on that bug, and I am afraid it's a hardware bug. the messages can be suppressed, but i think urlin2u's suggestion is best, the people over at #android may have run into this problem before.
[03:59] <driller_work> dsnyders: Yeah, I am used to norton ghost and have seen clonezilla but I am not quite sure if it is considered to be "good" in a enterprise environment...would you personally rely on something like clonezilla in a big enterprise?
[03:59] <KM0201> hylian: looks like there's a solution....  http://osdir.com/ml/Android-Developers/2011-08/msg02252.html
[03:59] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: Me too, but have you installed pavucontrol and paprefs?
[03:59] <dc5ala> phrostbite, that sounds more like a router, proxies are usually specialized (web proxy etc.) and can do caching
[04:00] <shadowh511> where can I get help with apache vhosts?
[04:00] <driller_work> ((we're talking over 1500 servers here that needs to be managed in a quick and pain-free fashion))
[04:00] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, yes... tried to play with pavucontrol
[04:00] <renzhi> hylian: I also think it's a hardware issue
[04:00] <genesect> hylian: looks like there's probably a low-ish volume kernel security mailing list would get any success
[04:00] <driller_work> shadowh511 try #apache or ask your question here; I am sure there are plenty of people willing to help you in regards to apache related questions.. ((you can pm me if you wish))
[04:00] <renzhi> hylian: I think it's either my usb cable, or the usb port problem
[04:00] <dsnyders> driller_work, I've used norton ghost, but I haven't used either clonezilla or ghost4linux, so I can't say.
[04:00] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, actually... I didn't have paprefs installed, only pavucontrol
[04:01] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: that's really all I got, srry :/
[04:01] <bugaloo> installing right now
[04:01] <genesect> some credibility to the scope of my original breath, there was present a male humanoid whose occupation was present a router, proxies are usually specialized (web proxy etc.) and now our residence is a quick and the other uses pulse audio, and the other uses alsa
[04:01] <hylian> renzhi, if you have some net protocol chops, you should consider KM0201's idea, i looked it up, it's doable.
[04:01] <driller_work> dsnyders: ok, I'm a fan of norton ghost too - I'll check out both of them, thanks for the input!
[04:01] <hylian> sorry all, i can't think straight anymore, good night.
[04:01] <renzhi> urlin2u: I did try this option, it didn't work :)
[04:01] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: maybe still a chance then? I'm in Win7 now and I can't really remember which does what, give it a shot
[04:01] <genesect> i'm just dumb, how come linux will allow you to be updated to be good in my android phone, but ubuntu does not recognize it, but ubuntu does not recognize it, i never bothered to figure it out cause it tunrs out i repartion my external portable hard drive already.
[04:02] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, that's ok... thanks anyway... i'll try to dig about this
[04:02] <JokesOnYou77> good luck
[04:02] <KM0201> genesect: no offense but that didn't really no offense but that didn't really make sense
[04:02] <genesect> psi-jack: uhmm, read and i can't really all i got, srry :/
[04:02] <dsnyders> driller_work, I have a PXE boot environment set up so that I can load/run ghost from across the network without boot media.
[04:02] <phrostbite> dc5ala, I found what I was looking for. It was under system --> network proxy
[04:02] <renzhi> I think I had another cable somewhere, I'll need to find it to figure out if it's my cable issue
[04:05] <Onlyodin> Nah, VMware Workstation is definitely still a non-free product
[04:07] <macfire> urlin2u I managed to install the driver
[04:08] <urlin2u> macfire, cool where was it?
[04:08] <macfire> urlin2u i have download the beta drivers for ati
[04:08] <J466> what's the meaning of /bin/sh not found ?
[04:08] <macfire> now, i update my version of ubuntu
[04:08] <genesect> chewed-on: there's a free version
[04:08] <Onlyodin> The new HP Pavilion notebooks have a double-tap top left corner to disable the synaptics touchpad (in Windows at least). Does anyone know how to get this working in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <genesect> i once new a battlefield 2 server with the same problem
[04:09] <urlin2u> macfire, cool I had seen references to that on the web as well.
[04:09] <J466> -    /bin/sh: makeinfo : command not found
[04:11] <apathadeus> how do you people feel about unity?
[04:11] <HeGuru> Onlyodin: try GPointingDeviceSetting, not sure if it has that setting though
[04:11] <phrostbite> It unites us
[04:11] <apathadeus> into common love or common hate for the interface?
[04:11] <HeGuru> !ot | apathadeus
[04:12] <driller_work> j4q8: how are you calling the "makeinfo" command? /bin/sh makeinfo ?
[04:12] <JokesOnYou77> It's a travesty
[04:12] <sandman2211> I prefer the old interface.  Tried to use Unity but got very frustrated very quickly
[04:12] <Onlyodin> apathadeus, I hate finding applications in Unity. Give me back my menus.
[04:12] <apathadeus> i see
[04:13] <apathadeus> it makes me a sad panda too :(
[04:13] <sandman2211> What good is 2-clicks-to-anything when you have to wade thru a list of every app on your system?  I don't get that entire mindset; it's not like clicks cost money or something
[04:14] <Peablog> Gnome Desktop in Ubuntu 9.10 is perfect
[04:14] <Onlyodin> HeGuru, is GPointingDeviceSettings in gconf-editor or something?
[04:14] <urlin2u> #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)
[04:15] <HeGuru> Onlyodin: you have to install gpointing-device-settings package
[04:15] <JokesOnYou77> I do actually lie the search, and some of the look, but they killed my shortcuts!!!
[04:15] <JokesOnYou77> I'm done now
[04:16] <Onlyodin> HeGuru, thanks, looking now.
[04:17] <Loshki> J466: makeinfo is in package texi2html I believe, which you need to install....
[04:21] <n-iCe> hi
[04:21] <n-iCe> i have a question is there any way to grab/take a wireless drivers?
[04:22] <shadowh511> n-iCe, what do you mean?
[04:22] <n-iCe> I mean how to know hich drivers and files I am using in other distro and use them in other
[04:22] <genesect> urlin2u i have download the beta drivers for ati
[04:22] <shadowh511> n-iCe, what distro?
[04:22] <n-iCe> I have tried lot of distros and in this one the wireless card works awesome and in ubuntu does not work at all
[04:22] <n-iCe> pentoo
[04:22] <shadowh511> gentoo?
[04:22] <n-iCe> I am in pentoo channel nobody answer, so please try to not send me there
[04:22] <n-iCe> pentoo, gentoo based I Guess
[04:23] <HeGuru> n-iCe: its easier to just use lspci and find out the wireless model and search for the ubuntu support for it
[04:23] <n-iCe> HeGuru:  I did, I downloaded lot of drivers for ubuntu, they just does not work at all
[04:23] <n-iCe> is an awuso36h wireless card chipset rtl8187 driver
[04:23] <HeGuru> n-iCe: whats the make/model of the wireless interface?
[04:24] <n-iCe> you got it a line above
[04:24] <HeGuru> n-iCe: is it usb?
[04:25] <Flatlined> I have the same prob. n-iCe!
[04:26] <n-iCe> HeGuru:  yes
[04:26] <n-iCe> Flatlined:  the card will work awesome if you use pentoo that-s why I wanna know exactly the drivers being used by pentoo and how to take them
[04:26] <genesect> is an awuso36h wireless card works awesome and in other
[04:27] <n-iCe> emerge
[04:27] <Flatlined> n-iCe where did you find pentoo ?
[04:28] <n-iCe> surfing
[04:28] <n-iCe> reading
[04:28] <uwe> moin
[04:28] <shadowh511> n-iCe, you mean *gentoo*
[04:29] <n-iCe> no, PENTOO
[04:29] <laxonmind> anyone have experience with unknown monitors
[04:29] <genesect> anyone else mentioned this?
[04:29] <shadowh511> okay, i guess there is a pentoo
[04:29] <n-iCe> there is
[04:29] <n-iCe> how can I Know the drivers it is using
[04:29] <genesect> bugaloo, you leave the shell is the arbitrary oxymoronic overwrought bane of the water, and files i am using in other distro and use them
[04:29] <n-iCe> I Know it is rtl8187
[04:29] <genesect> it's like a wireless card chipset rtl8187 driver
[04:29] <n-iCe> wanna know the exact version and all the files
[04:29] <genesect> why i wanna know hich drivers and files i never found it..
[04:30] <n-iCe> no idea then?
[04:30] <bugaloo> huh?
[04:32] <Flatlined> Compat-wireless  I think
[04:32] <n-iCe> I thought the same
[04:32] <Poeir> I'm in the process of migrating from Mac to Ubuntu.  I'm trying to import my iTunes library into Banshee, but I'm getting a lot of "File does not exist" errors.  This seems to be related to precomposed versus decomposed Unicode encoding.  I used convmv, and it reduced the number of errors, but I'm still getting some.  What I think I'd like to do is use rsync and iconv to convert, but when I do that I get iconv_open(...) failed, "request
[04:32] <Poeir> ed action not supported (code 4)"  Any ideas?
[04:32] <n-iCe> but installed the last compat-wireless tar ball in ubuntu and did not work that well
[04:32] <Flatlined> i wish it was compiled
[04:33] <Flatlined> compat-wireless tar ball needs to be compiled
[04:33] <n-iCe> ./configure
[04:33] <n-iCe> make
[04:33] <n-iCe> make install
[04:33] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I deleted all of the file links in my "backups" and restarted the search.  It seems to be going a lot faster.  Still hasn't found the target though.
[04:33] <n-iCe> thats easy
[04:33] <n-iCe> and I did it
[04:33] <FloodBot1> n-iCe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:33] <shadowh511> n-iCe, sudo make install
[04:33] <ihsw> how do i access the onscreen keyboard
[04:33] <n-iCe> correct I Used sudo of course
[04:34] <n-iCe> that-s not even my question
[04:34] <n-iCe> the first question was how to know the files being used from my wireless card as drivers
[04:34] <genesect> sorry all, i wanna know exactly the drivers being used by pentoo
[04:34] <n-iCe> ME TOO
[04:34] <n-iCe> but pentoo chan is dead
[04:34] <bugaloo> dsnyders, let's pray, hehe
[04:34] <bugaloo> or prey
[04:34] <bugaloo> bad english, sorry
[04:34] <Flatlined> Me 3
[04:34] <ihsw> does anybody know where i can find the onscreen keyboard app
[04:34] <genesect> for more like a male humanoid whose occupation was to abuse surface tenstion and see if you can i access the onscreen keyboard
[04:35] <shadowh511> that's a sentence jalopy is i've ever seen one
[04:35] <alikhj> how do i access boot-repair?
[04:35] <Marcus> What an interesting story mark
[04:35] <alikhj> i already installed it... but can't find it in the control center
[04:36] <shadowh511> alikhj, check the menus
[04:36] <shadowh511> alikhj, most devs don't put it in the control centre for whatever reason
[04:36] <alikhj> shadowh511: thanks! do you mean the menus that pop up for the control center?
[04:37] <ihsw> so where is the onscreen keyboard in ubuntu, i'm really having a hard time finding it with only a mouse to work with
[04:37] <shadowh511> alikhj, i mean the apps, places, and system menu
[04:37] <shadowh511> ihsw, kde has a better On-screen keyboard
[04:38] <alikhj> shadowh511: ive checked there, even searched it but can't find anything
[04:38] <ihsw> shadowh511: thank you sir i am using the standard ubuntu installation though, could you help me out in finding where i can find the onscreen keyboard in the standard ubuntu installation (11.04)?
[04:38] <shadowh511> alikhj, what package?
[04:39] <shadowh511> ihsw, i don't know ifthere is one
[04:39] <genesect> ihsw, kde has a chance then?
[04:39] <alikhj> shadowh511: boot-repair
[04:39] <Deumosekto> I get a problem where Randomly wont be able to click a certain menu or window that pops up, during and after installation. For instance while I'm partitioning i double click the partition I want to configure and have to navigate the window that pops up with my keyboard because the mouse cant click anywhere on it, or after installation i wont be able to click anywhere or move the firefox window when I run it, i have to randoml
[04:39] <Deumosekto> y click anything until it works. Another example is i open my desktop appearance settings and go to the Effects tab and choose Extra, then when Simple-ccsm comes up i cant click anything in the window, only works with keyboard navigation. These are not the only times it happens it happens randomly with any program. This Hasnt always happened, it only started recently.
[04:39] <alikhj> shadowh511: a ha! found it... i jsut reinstalled it from the software center and it popped up in the control center
[04:39] <shadowh511> alikhj, yay
[04:40] <ihsw> where in ubuntu (11.04 GNOME+UNITY) is the onscreen keyboard
[04:41] <shadowh511> ihsw, in the repositories i think
[04:41] <Deumosekto> nobody?
[04:41] <linuxuz3r> ihsw, what tablet are you using
[04:41] <laxonmind> I have an external monitor that is not detected and need help with the driver of x.org config
[04:41] <ihsw> linuxuz3r: asus eee slate
[04:41] <linuxuz3r> cool
[04:42] <ihsw> shadowh511: is that accessible with only a mouse to work with?
[04:42] <shadowh511> ihsw, if you can get an internet connection, yes
[04:43] <ihsw> shadowh511: the machien has no internet access
[04:43] <shadowh511> ihsw, you are caught in a catch-22
[04:44] <javatexan_> howdy, I have ubuntu 11.04 and I am setting up a vm to bridge with eth0.  Problem is that eth0 is snagging the IP address and the Vm cant use it...  right now i have eth0 setup as auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp.  Can I change this when I startup my virtualbox VM to release the dhcp and allow the VM to get it?
[04:44] <genesect> if you can, turn one off, preferably the will allow you to me
[04:44] <javatexan_> Is this possible?
[04:46] <laxonmind> shadowh511 you could use character map  in Application>Accessories and drag and drop test to the copy text section
[04:48] <shadowh511> laxonmind, if you have the paitence of a saint
[04:48] <laxonmind> it is better than nothing
[04:48] <shadowh511> laxonmind, true
[04:48] <laxonmind> could get you to were need to go to get something better
[04:49] <shadowh511> laxonmind, true
[04:50] <shadowh511> so, what's up with you all?
[04:50] <shadowh511> i just caught genesect in pokemon
[04:50] <genesect> ihsw, you are caught in win7 now our residence is that eth0 is misconfiguration
[04:51] <laxonmind> any thoughts on video output to a second monitor almost 1/3 of the screen is black dose not show up in monitors
[04:51] <IdleOne> !ot | shadowh511
[04:51] <shadowh511> andi thought this was the offtopic channel, i fail
[04:53] <laxonmind> do you just keep asking your question until you get a answer?
[04:53] <akerl> laxonmind: Only if you want to be ignored
[04:54] <laxonmind> I feel like it is already happening :(
[04:54] <shadowh511> laxonmind, what video card?
[04:54] <laxonmind> intel onboard
[04:55] <shadowh511> laxonmind, there is your problem
[04:55] <laxonmind> from what i read online everyone has video problem with 11.04
[04:57] <laxonmind> more specificly intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[04:59] <henry-> I'm trying to get some files out of my samsung gt-s5600, when I connect the phone via USB and select mass storage the device mounts for a few seconds then disappears
[05:00] <henry-> bluetooth isn't an option for me and I'd like to believe that there's a more convenient way to get the files out than having a virtual windows machine
[05:01] <henry-> any protips?
[05:02] <SixEch0> Henry-, I had that problem with my droid and it turned out to be the usb cable. Just a thought
[05:02] <urlin2u> henry-, get a card reader and go that way.
[05:02] <wildbat> henry-: i use ssh to transfer files. but it is strange that the device disappears. check log see if you have any clue ~ and make sure the wire is firmly inserted.
[05:04] <uragan> hi
[05:05] <uragan> anybody know wy bt5 video and audio is absence
[05:05] <genesect> does anybody know where i run it, or after installation though, could you help me as perilous
[05:06] <shadowh511> bt5?
[05:06] <shadowh511> uragan, bt5?
[05:06] <uragan> yes
[05:06] <shadowh511> define bt5 please
[05:07] <uragan> backtrack
[05:07] <IdleOne> !backtrack
[05:07] <shadowh511> uragan, what ubottu said plus backtrack traces your activities
[05:08] <uragan> so what
[05:08] <uragan> anybody advise
[05:08] <SixEch0> Try #backtrack-linux
[05:08] <uragan> moment
[05:08] <IdleOne> uragan: BT support in #backtrack-linux
[05:11] <uragan> i dont know why , but i have baned on bactrack-linux
[05:11] <genesect> why is a certain column take precedence in a mouse to be good in monitors
[05:13] <IdleOne> uragan: because you are running as root
[05:14] <uragan> No one player , cant play songs , what it mean ? codecs is absence?
[05:14] <IdleOne> uragan: change the ident in your irc client and try to rejoin
[05:14] <uragan> anybody alive
[05:14] <uragan> ?
[05:14] <wildbat> ....
[05:15] <shadowh511> uragan, I am alive
[05:15] <uragan> good
[05:15] <uragan> answer to me
[05:15] <wildbat> !ot | uragan , we don't care. This we don't support BT nor operation of any channel. try #freenode
[05:15] <IdleOne> uragan: I did
[05:15] <uragan> if you can
[05:15] <uragan> ubuntu and bt5 almost similary
[05:16] <uragan> thats why i am here
[05:16] <IdleOne> uragan: running irc as root is not a good idea. change your ident and seek support in #backtrack-linux
[05:16] <bullgard4_> With me, /etc/blkid.tab is in Lucid and Natty a dead symlink. Can I simply delet it, or how can I tackle this problem?
[05:16] <lhavelund> Even though this isn't strictly related, and #lighttpd would be a better ressource (if there was any activity), I'm going to give it a shot here anyway. I can't get a virtual host to respond; it seems to time out. My config can be found here: http://pastebin.com/qn4bBkmz
[05:16] <IdleOne> backtrack is not supported here, it is similar but NOT Ubuntu.
[05:16] <shadowh511> uragan, /j #backtrack-linux
[05:16] <uragan> i have baned at this channel
[05:16] <uragan> i dont know why
[05:17] <IdleOne> I told you why
[05:17] <uragan> i never vizited bt linux channel
[05:17] <urlin2u> uragan, install vlc off the web and cal it a day.
[05:17] <IdleOne> stop talking and start reading the responses given to you.
[05:17] <uragan> aaaa
[05:17] <urlin2u> call
[05:17] <kevin> you ask too much
[05:17] <uragan> its ok
[05:17] <akerl> uragan: Are you registered?
[05:17] <uragan> no
[05:17] <shadowh511> !ops uragan
[05:17] <uragan> is it requaire
[05:17] <wildbat> uragan you may be banned here too if you don't listen :>
[05:17] <uragan> ?
[05:18] <akerl> A) Don't irc as root. B) register
[05:18] <uragan> i am already leasten
[05:18] <akerl> Then join the backtrack channel and ask them
[05:18] <uragan> slow down
[05:18] <akerl> You are currently on irc as root.
[05:18] <akerl> uragan has userhost<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and realname root
[05:18] <KM0201> akerl: he might be here on a live cd..
[05:18] <KM0201> !rootirc
[05:18] <uragan> roger
[05:18] <IdleOne> he can change his ident on a live cd
[05:19] <KM0201> IdleOne: this is true.. no argument there
[05:19] <shadowh511> lol
[05:19] <shadowh511> did someone kill him?
[05:19] <phrostbite> How do you use a bz2 file?
[05:19] <polifasio> uragan...
[05:19] <KM0201> shadowh511: guess he went to troll elsewhere.
[05:19] <akerl> phrostbite: Use?
[05:20] <akerl> You mean extract?
[05:20] <shadowh511> KM0201, good riddance
[05:20] <lhavelund> phrostbite: bz2 is a bzipped file. basically, a compressed file.
[05:20] <wildbat> phrostbite: double click it , or bzip in cli
[05:20] <lhavelund> phrostbite: to use it, usually, you'd do bzip2 -x <file>, if I recall correctly.
[05:20] <phrostbite> Thank you I was not sure exactly what type of file it was
[05:20] <lhavelund> phrostbite: very welcome.
[05:21] <phrostbite> Hmm now it's a tar file lol
[05:21] <lhavelund> ah!
[05:21] <shadowh511> tar -xvf <name?
[05:21] <phrostbite> Man is there a linux for dummies book?
[05:21] <shadowh511> tar -xvf <name> *
[05:21] <akerl> phrostbite: google.
[05:21] <phrostbite> Or irc ;)
[05:21] <IdleOne> phrostbite: there is
[05:21] <KM0201> !manual | phrostbite
[05:21] <lhavelund> phrostbite: .tar is a file format used to create archives with files; .bz2 is a file format used to compress it. you can hit two birds with one stone by using tar -xvf <filename.tar.bz2> to extract AND decompress the file.
[05:22] <urlin2u> phrostbite, http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Dummies-6th-Dee-Ann-LeBlanc/dp/0764579371
[05:22] <shadowh511> uragan made it to #backtrack-linux
[05:22] <phrostbite> lol
[05:22] <uragan> yes
[05:22] <phrostbite> Thank you everybody for all the info
[05:22] <KM0201> i think those "for dummies" books.. when it comes to Linux, are useless.
[05:22] <lhavelund> Welcome :)
[05:22] <uragan> must i register?
[05:22] <IdleOne> no
[05:22] <shadowh511> do you want to speak?
[05:22] <KM0201> lol
[05:22] <uragan> why i cant send anything into channel?
[05:22] <IdleOne> !register | uragan
[05:22] <gack> I ran sudo grub-install but I don't have a menu.lst file. I can't boot ubuntu, my grub menu is blank. any thoughts?
[05:22] <akerl> IdleOne: Except yes
[05:23] <JokesOnYou77> KM0201: I disagree, I love the for Dummies Series, even the ubuntu one.  Got me started.  Forums are definitely better tho
[05:23] <IdleOne> akerl: sorry didn't realize they were +r
[05:23] <akerl> Those backtrack folk are serious business :p
[05:23] <urlin2u> gack, yes grub2 is the grub,  not legacy
[05:23] <phrostbite> So what do I do after i tar -xvf filename? it has a huge list of files and such that is in there.
[05:23] <gack> urlin2u: hey, so do i need to download grub 2?
[05:24] <urlin2u> gack,  can you explain the problem?
[05:24] <KM0201> JokesOnYou77: i dunno, everytime i pick up a Linux "For Dummies" (including Ubuntu) book.. it's horribly dated.  Last one i picked up, was Fedora, and was based on fedora 7 (they're at version 15 now)... some o it is still good info, but a lot of it doesn't apply.... and they sure as heck weren't charging less for it cuz it was so dated... and it had an awesome, up to date fedora 7 cd w/ it.. :))
[05:24] <shadowh511> gack, good work of advice, don't frack around with bootloaders
[05:25] <KM0201> gack: explain your problem a little better...
[05:25] <uns0b1ll> got 3 serial usb adapters on ubuntu, how to view them ? dmesg ?
[05:25] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, lsusb
[05:25] <JokesOnYou77> I got the newest ubuntu version, was good enough to teach me some command line basics, rest was trash tho
[05:25] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, thnx
[05:25] <KM0201> JokesOnYou77: what version is it based on?
[05:26] <wildbat> KM0201:  may be the linux world is changing too fast ~ where the writer finally done and QA publish ~ wohla it is OLD ! :>
[05:26] <shadowh511> JokesOnYou77, http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 005 Device 029: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse M90
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 005 Device 028: ID 1038:0210 Ideazon, Inc.
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <FloodBot1> uns0b1ll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <gaelfx> does RAM generally use the same amount of power when it's full as compared to when it's half full? or does it usually kill power to the RAM not being used?
[05:26] <KM0201> wildbat: i think thats exactly it.. thus why i think using forums, internet sites, irc, etc.. is a better option.
[05:26] <gaelfx> apologies, I probably ought to ask in #hrdware
[05:26] <gack> Sure. I installed ubuntu but when I restart it didn't do anything. I went on this forum another time and someone helped me run sudo grub install, it didn't come up with a menu.lst file though. when I restartede it it goes to a grub screen waiting for entry and nothing else happens.  urlin2u KM0201
[05:27] <IdleOne> meta discussions welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:27] <shadowh511> what is mode +z?
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> KM0201: Wait, ur right, they're trash.  I have hacking wireless for dummies., my linux book is Beginning Ubuntu Linux, much better than for dummies
[05:27] <wildbat> KM0201: agree ~ and that's why irc still hang on from dying ;p
[05:27] <uns0b1ll> so i only viewing 2 not 3
[05:27] <KM0201> JokesOnYou77: ok, big different... i bought that book years ago.. its handy
[05:27] <uns0b1ll> hmm wonder if third one got lost
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> shadowh511: Thank you!  That link looks great
[05:27] <shadowh511> JokesOnYou77, np
[05:27] <rumpe1> hacking wireless for dummies? o.O
[05:28] <KM0201> gack: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[05:28] <JokesOnYou77> hehe, it's whitehat stuff, I swear
[05:28] <gack> KM0201: the latest one. 11.4 I think it was.
[05:28] <urlin2u> gack boot a live ubuntu cd same as the installed ubuntu and run this command, in home a RESULTS.text will appear paste all the text to a pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[05:28] <shadowh511> gack, run lsb_release in a terminal
[05:28] <fhenning09> Is there an app that would allow me to open extract, etc etc disv image files like uif, daa without having to drop to pull up the CLI everytime?
[05:28] <KM0201> i think he's on a live cd shadowh511 .. but if he's on the same live cd, that should help
[05:29] <KM0201> shadeslayer_: and actually, lsb_release -a   will give a newb better info on that.. :) (I imagine thats what you meant)
[05:29] <gack> shadowh511: it says 'no LSB modules are available'
[05:29] <gaelfx> fhenning09: you could probably write a shell script for that
[05:29] <IdleOne> gack: lsb_release -a
[05:29] <KM0201> gack: lsb_release -a (make sure there's a space after release)
[05:30] <bonez2046> help - I have a machine that usually runs win xp but it is set up for dual booot to 10.04 too; I can't access it, been too long ago, need to reset password.. how can I get to root prompt to reset my user id and root's?
[05:30] <_Neytiri_> i am getting this error when tryingto run a bash acript
[05:30] <_Neytiri_> bash: ./nau.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:30] <shadowh511> gack, run lsb_release -v
[05:30] <gack> KM0201: ubuntu 11.04 natty
[05:30] <urlin2u> gack,  you see my message on the bootscript.
[05:30] <shadowh511> _Neytiri_, did you write it in windows?
[05:30] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, correct the line ending in the script
[05:30] <KM0201> gack: ok, if you're using 11.04, you don't have a menu.lst, you're using grub2, which uses grub.conf
[05:30] <wildbat> bonez2046: there is rescue mode in grub menu , fromt here you can have root#
[05:30] <KM0201> !grub2 | gac
[05:31] <KM0201> gack: see above
[05:31] <_Neytiri_> shadowh511,  no i didnt
[05:31] <KM0201> unfortunately, trouble shooting grub, is not my forte.
[05:31] <gack> urlin2u: thanks. missed it. I'll have a look.
[05:32] <bonez2046> wildbat: I can get the recovery mode, but I drop to prompt and it give the Enter Root Pass or hit Control-D to continue..
[05:32] <shadowh511> _Neytiri_, did you download it?
[05:32] <laxonmind> how do you restart X server
[05:32] <_Neytiri_> no i wrote it
[05:32] <shadowh511> in gedit?
[05:32] <urlin2u> gack, I forgot to tab you here it is again.  boot a live ubuntu cd same as the installed ubuntu and run this command, in home a RESULTS.text will appear paste all the text to a pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[05:32] <KM0201> laxonmind: control alt prtscr K
[05:32] <KM0201> (beware, that will kill x immediately)
[05:32] <gack> urlin2u: is all the stuff you put in that paste file a single line command?
[05:32] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, convert it with "sed -i 's/^M//' filenamehere"
[05:32] <_Neytiri_> Notepad ++ under wine
[05:32] <uns0b1ll> just ran lsusb - usb serial is there... but which /dev/usb is that ?
[05:33] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, first make a backup
[05:33] <urlin2u> gack, yeah
[05:33] <uns0b1ll> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
[05:33] <uns0b1ll> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter
[05:33] <uns0b1ll> this is for my ser2net.conf
[05:33] <wildbat> bonez2046: then you have SET a root passwd then , you have to boot LiveCD , to disable or change it with chroot