[06:58] <eagles0513875_> hey guys i am noticing a problem with https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dovecot-server.html that it no longer works for the version of dovecot on 12.04
[06:58] <eagles0513875_> those instructions are for the version in 10.04
[15:29] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[15:30] <eagles0513875> is anyone around that can push forward a rather urgently needed fix to the dovecot documentation
[15:30] <eagles0513875> as the version is drastically different then the documentation is for
[15:30] <eagles0513875> that version of the documentation you have for 12.04 works for the 10.04 version of dovecot which is 1.0.9 i believe and this is version 2.0.19
[16:21] <eagles0513875> hey ikonia i found a bug with the dovecot documentation seems like the version in the server guide for 12.04 is for an older version of dovecot which is in 10.04
[16:23] <ikonia> eagles0513875: yes, you told me this the other day and I told you to log a bug
[16:23] <ikonia> have you logged a bug yet ?
[16:23] <eagles0513875> ya i logged a bug
[16:24] <ikonia> ok, so what do you want to happen now ?
[16:24] <eagles0513875> any chance that someone can possibly confirm it for me? what is the exact procedure for bugs in teh docs?
[16:24] <ikonia> does it need confirming
[16:24] <ikonia> have you done an install and verified the docunmentation is the wrong version ?
[16:25] <eagles0513875> yes i installed dovecot and i tried to find the part where you specify what protocol you want to use in dovecot.conf and it doesnt exist
[16:25] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[16:25] <ikonia> that doesn't mean it's wrong
[16:25] <ikonia> that just means it's not in the default dovecot.conf
[16:25] <eagles0513875> documentation is still wrong then
[16:25] <ikonia> why ?
[16:26] <ikonia> why is the documentation still wrong ?
[16:26] <eagles0513875> shouldnt it tell me where else i should look to find that setting?
[16:26] <ikonia> no
[16:26] <ikonia> re-read what I said
[16:26] <ikonia> it doesn't mean the parameter is wrong/invalid, it could be as simple as it's just not in the default config file, meaning you have to add it
[16:27] <ikonia> eg: if there is an option called "enable_dovecot=yes/no" and the default is "yes" it's quite common to not put that option in the config file as so few people will want "no"
[16:27] <ikonia> and those who do want "no" will know how to research it/add it
[16:27] <ikonia> (just for example)
[16:28] <ikonia> look at the apache config, that's missing tons of options as you only add the ones you want
[16:28] <ikonia> have you actually checked if that option is still valid in the 12.04 package ?
[16:28] <eagles0513875> yes
[16:28] <ikonia> and is it valid ?
[16:28] <eagles0513875> its not in the configuration file
[16:29] <ikonia> that's not what I asked
[16:29] <ikonia> is that option still valid
[16:29] <eagles0513875> and this is after i installed dovecot-imapd package
[16:29] <eagles0513875> valid as in does it still apply to the package available in 12.04
[16:29] <ikonia> that's not what I asked
[16:29] <ikonia> please respond to the questions I asked
[16:29] <ikonia> eagles0513875: correct, does the option in the documentation still work in the 12.04
[16:29] <eagles0513875> no it does not
[16:29] <eagles0513875> but i can confirm that it does in 10.04 though
[16:29] <ikonia> what happens ? does it ignore the option
[16:30] <ikonia> does it error ?
[16:30] <eagles0513875> the protocols option in teh configuration file is non existent
[16:30] <ikonia> are you reading what I'm saying
[16:30] <ikonia> ?
[16:30] <ikonia> have you ADDED the option
[16:30] <eagles0513875> no i havent but i shall try that now
[16:30] <ikonia> just because it's not in the config file by default
[16:30] <ikonia> doesn't mean it's not valid the right option
[16:30] <ikonia> I've just given you a 5 line example of this
[16:30] <ikonia> and you're still not reading it
[16:31] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:32] <ikonia> add it and see if it's a valid option/the correct way to set the parameter
[16:34] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what's the bug number ?
[16:34] <eagles0513875> bug 996383
[16:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 996383 in ubuntu-docs "ubuntu 12.04 dovecot documentation is not compatible with the version in precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996383
[16:35] <ikonia> right, so test it now and lets either update this bug properly, or close it as the detail/description in that bug is poor
[16:36] <ikonia> eagles0513875: got to focus on details more, that bug is really bad and just a waste of time/effort
[16:37] <ikonia> lets get this done
[16:37] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:39] <eagles0513875> ikonia: there seems to be this which replaces that line # Enable installed protocols !include_try /usr/share/dovecot/protocols.d/*.protocol  not sure of its purpose or what it does
[16:40] <eagles0513875> question is what protocols are installed
[16:40] <ikonia> again - not what I asked
[16:40] <ikonia> does the option/setting in the documentation work in the 12.04 package ?
[16:40] <ikonia> please focus on what's being done here
[16:43] <eagles0513875> added the line and restarted to see if it would give any errors but it does not so far
[16:44] <ikonia> eagles0513875: does it do what you expected ?
[16:44] <eagles0513875> ok next step in regards to maildir wasnt in there either but added the line and nothing throwing out errors on server restart
[16:44] <eagles0513875> ikonia: have yet to test
[16:44] <eagles0513875> still need to setup postfix
[16:45] <ikonia> ok, so I would close that bug for the mean time
[16:45] <eagles0513875> ok so its workign seeing as i can tell net into imaps
[16:45] <ikonia> mark it as invalid, test it get ALL the info you can rather than 2 lines of text, and then if there is a problem log a clean bug
[16:45] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:45] <ikonia> lets not waste peoples time with no-valid bugs
[16:45] <ikonia> mark it as invalid, close it, and test
[16:46] <ikonia> if it works, you know the documentation is fine
[16:46] <ikonia> if it doesn't work, is it the documentation or the package that's at fault
[16:46] <ikonia> log a bug to the right component with much much much better and more information
[16:46] <ikonia> clear ?
[16:50] <eagles0513875> correct
[16:50] <eagles0513875> what if there are minor issues cuz the docs say to modify those entries shouldnt it say in 12.04 that it should add them
[16:50] <ikonia> no
[16:51] <ikonia> you're setting up a mail server a certain level of ability is expected, eg: the ability to add a parameter if it's not there and rely on "cut and paste" appraoch
[16:51] <ikonia> approach
[16:51] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:52] <ikonia> do some good testing and see if there are any holes in the documentation that are actually valid, and then consider logging a bug if there is
[16:52] <ikonia> but if you do need to log a bug, get some great detail in
[16:52] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:52] <ikonia> the last one was just a waste of time (and that's not a complaint - but just an honest feedback)
[16:53] <eagles0513875> i know it wasnt a complaint :) just was getting anxious i have my friend who really wants his new mail server online
[16:57] <ikonia> that doesn't mean log a sloppy bug, if anything it will slow down the process
[16:57] <eagles0513875> understood
[16:58] <eagles0513875> i have another bug to file against 12.10 plasma netbook shell which is really annoying it seems a thread is crashing in libthread_d what exactly does that lib do?
[16:58] <ikonia> no idea without research
[16:59] <eagles0513875> agreed would you mind if i paste you the back trace? im not sure if its valid i have all the dbg packages installed but not sure what is the issue. and the bug crasher when i hit report bug wants me to file the bug on bugs.kde.org
[17:00] <ikonia> not really relevent to this channel
[17:00] <eagles0513875> ok will take it to +1
[17:00] <ikonia> we've probably strayed a bit too far in here as it is


[17:43] <karmic_koala> Hi all (-: i recently filed a bugreport about an issue which was not based on a crash but a disfunction. so therefor i couldnt implement a crash report. it also seems not to concern a specific package but a Kernel implemented modul. so now the bugteam bot gently asked me to add a relevant package. should i answer the bot now explaining why theres no packages given by me, or just ignore that? or am i missing something ? thank you
[17:44] <karmic_koala> ps: the bot suggested to ask here (-:
[18:19] <bdmurray> for a kernel module the package would probably be linux
[18:21] <karmic_koala> bdmurray: thank you ! so should i name "Linux" as the Package then, or just leave it open ?
[18:22] <bdmurray> use linux as the package
[18:23] <karmic_koala> bdmurray: thank you very much ! best regards, me (-:
[18:25] <karmic_koala> bdmurray: souldnt i specify a kernel version or something ? the word "linux" is good ?
[18:29] <karmic_koala> alright i trial+errored it and "linux" is great. Thank all of yoizu for your work and enjoy your evening.cya
[19:21] <karmic_koala> dear people: can i remove iwConfig.txt and reupload a striped currentDmesg.txt from/to my bugreport as they are not relevant and i feel somehow not optimal about publishing that information to the publicc (mac adresses of wlan etc) ?
[19:21] <roadmr> karmic_koala: what's the bug # ?
[19:27] <karmic_koala> roadmr: nevermind, was my mistake. but thanks for your attention anyways ! (-:
[19:27] <roadmr> karmic_koala: ok
[19:46] <karmic_koala> jsalisbury (auto)asked me :"Please test the latest v3.13 kernel[0]." but at the bottom of his comment is a link to: .. mainline/v3.14-rc2-trusty/. So, should i test a 3.13 or this 3.14-rc2 now ? ps, im on 12.04.4 LTS
[20:05] <karmic_koala> all good, i trial and errored the frehsest one works. (-:
[20:14] <karmic_koala> Dear Humans, how do i reply to a comment on a bugreport ? how should i adress the author of the comment ? by :" @Comment#4" or "@Author" ?
[20:38] <szerated> When I visit the ubuntu new bugs on launchpad, many of them are very old. Do they just need to be closed?
[20:40] <Ampelbein> szerated: If you verified that they are fixed, yes. If they still are valid reports, you do the normal bug triage.
[20:41] <Ampelbein> szerated: Generally there's no reason to assume that bugs fix themself over time, some of the code in the archive hasn't changed much for years.
[20:44] <hggdh> szerated: you can also /join #ubuntu-bugs-announce for the newest bugs
[20:44] <szerated> hggdh: thanks thats what I need


[01:58] <OvenWerks> After much searching, it appears that ladspa is dead. All of the good plugins seem to have moved to lv2, some by the original authors and others have been ported by people who just want them around. There are a number of devs who just don't like lv2, but the tools for developing ladspa plugins seem to be vanishing too.
[01:58] <OvenWerks> ladspa.org is gone
[04:34] <OvenWerks> ladspa plugins will probably continue to just work as they have no GUI.
[16:41] <zequence> OvenWerks: So, should be pretty simple to create a unified plugin launcher, but one that only launches a single plugin.
[22:23] <OvenWerks> zequence: yes, that is what I see at least for dssi/lv2.
[22:25] <OvenWerks> Looking closer at Carla. If it was to be packaged for debian, the parts that need Linux Sampler would have to not be configured to be added at least. It sure works nice though. I DL the tarball binary version which works just fine in 14.04 anyway.
[22:27] <OvenWerks> The email Falk* wrote to LAU gives a pretty good idea as to what can be opted for or not. It seems a stripped version would have almost no depends.


[00:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> hello thewrath
[03:25] <rainstake> How to execute a coupon printer file, so I can print my Organic Valley milk coupons?  I have copied the error message and am ready to paste it to that one website for troubleshooting.
[04:01] <thewrath> hello all
[04:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hiya
[05:23] <r4y> I am wondering how to make programs and so forth under alacarte (aka the main menu) require the sudo or gksudo password so I can keep things on the main menu for me, such as disk utility, keyboard shortcuts, keyboard, mouse and so on
[05:24] <Unit193> Make the launcher require a password, or make the program require one to run?
[05:25] <r4y> yes
[05:25] <r4y> I think I've tried making it work like this before but I remember it not working out, I can't remember though
[05:26] <Unit193> That was an either/or, not yes/no.  Add gksudo to the exec line in the launcher for that method, or you'd have to change the sudoers file for the other, iirc.
[05:26] <r4y> not sure  mean
[05:26] <r4y> I will try one I know I don't use first just in case
[05:29] <r4y> I think it depends on the item
[05:30] <r4y> I tried the search for files item under applications for instance and it doesn't work
[05:30] <r4y> but it worked for empathy
[05:30] <Unit193> Most things really shouldn't need to be run as root.
[05:32] <r4y> It's cool, now I can at least test this out on items I want and if they don't work I can mark those off of the main menu, then when I want alacarte I can use the terminal to get the main menu
[05:34] <r4y> Should I use the root terminal for the terminal to lock kids out of the terminal or make the terminal sudo under alacarte?
[05:34] <r4y> I have never used the root terminal from under system tools
[05:34] <r4y> Isn't that the same?, or what?
[05:44] <r4y> I guess there is no safe way of keeping kids from messing up Ubuntu other then lock but I can at least try which would reduce how easy it would be for kids to mess up Ubuntu
[05:46] <r4y> keyboard shortcuts is another thing. I understand the terminal can be open with control-alt-t or from alt-f2
[05:46] <r4y> I meant are another thing
[05:47] <r4y> anyways, TY for the help. I found this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=96823dd8f3c167ed2c38f3ee6475ba3c&t=1728864&page=2
[05:48] <r4y> Have a good day.
[05:55] <Unit193> Running things as root to protect the system, that's not exactly the bset idea...
[07:07] <JavaKing> hi, learning how to use irc, started using ubuntu about 6 months ago
[07:08] <JavaKing> how about you?
[07:09] <JavaKing> does anyone know how to tweak ubuntu safely?
[07:11] <stlsaint> JavaKing: what do you mean tweak?
[07:11] <stlsaint> and what is not safe?
[07:13] <JavaKing> tweaking meaning changing background settings for speed that will not cause irreparable crash of os
[07:14] <JavaKing> stlsaint, do you know if there is an ubuntu manual that shows how to make changes to the settings
[07:15] <Unit193> !docs | This?
[07:15] <ubot2> This?: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:16] <JavaKing> thanks
[07:18] <JavaKing> going to read, bye
[07:18] <Unit193> Adios.
[07:24] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hi JavaKing. I am quite old to irc. And explain why you want to do
[07:25] <IAmNotThatGuy> Err sowwie. Bad client
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> how old are putdumpdump
[07:30] <stlsaint> wilee-nilee: what?
[07:31] <stlsaint> ubuntu member names ocean?
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> stlsaint, it was a joke I interact with that user on #ubuntuforums, I will not do it again here.
[07:43] <stlsaint> wilee-nilee: oh ok, thanks
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> no problem I had to do a reboot. ,) stlsaint
[09:46] <r4y> my screen is stuck to the right but tv-out which is "twin view/clones" is perfect. What is wrong?, It's not the monitor because I was just on another hard drive that the same version of Ubuntu on it. Ubuntu 10
[09:49] <r4y> Maybe I can revert back to the xorg.conf.backup file. How?, I am using nvidia-settings which I use the command gksudo nvidia-settings to change
[10:36] <r4y> I am running Ubuntu 10 and the screen is only normal when in graphical failsafe mode. When I boot up normally the screen is off to the right a 1 and half
[10:36] <r4y> I mean an inch and a half
[16:16] <not_found> hi, anyone know the best way to show system temps on the top bar in Ubuntu 12.04... I already have lmsensors installed and setup but would like to see CPU temps etc. up top continuously?!
[16:18] <Sidewinder> not_found, I've no idea, sorry. Perhaps a "Conky" type of script or a "Screenlet" type of thingy will do what you're lookin' for?
[16:18] <Sidewinder> not_found, Just a "WAG", on my part..
[16:20] <not_found> Sidewinder, nah, I want it in the top bar next to the other icons... there are a few... don't want to wade through several unknown repo's and install a bunch of nonsense ... but no worries I wait :)
[16:21] <Sidewinder> not_found, Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance, but I know what you mean about not installing a bunch of unnecessary nonsense. :)
[16:21] <not_found> :)
[16:23] <geirha> not_found: Just did a search for "indicator" in the software center. One of the hits, Psensors, sounds like what you want.
[16:23] <geirha> sorry, Psensor
[16:24] <not_found> hmmm... saw it... let me have another look at it... thanks geirha
[16:25] <not_found> not sure geirha ... all I need is a little icon at the top next to my little envelope that shows "CPU 40degC" or something to that extent...
[16:26] <not_found> basically like hardware sensor from this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[16:26] <not_found> but I am not sure this is the best of the bunch... etc...
[16:37] <geirha> not_found: Hm. Yeah I just tried it. The best you get is a temperature icon, which will show the temp when you click on it.
[16:38] <not_found> geirha, k... trying hardware sensors as soon as I get the repo sorted out... have to use the one for oneiric as there isn't one for precise at the moment :)
[16:38] <not_found> thanks
[16:39] <geirha> sysmonitor indicator looks nice; apparently scriptable
[16:48] <not_found> geirha, cool ... using sysmonitor and also hardware sensors... will have to figure out if they can be moved cause they are all over the place but at least I have the info I want....
[16:48] <not_found> thanks
[16:50] <not_found> oh wait... sysmonitor indicator can do both....!!!
[16:52] <geirha> ttp://askubuntu.com/questions/26114/is-it-possible-to-change-the-order-of-icons-in-the-indicator-applet
[16:52] <geirha> hum, where did the h go?
[16:54] <not_found> geirha, thanks
[16:54] <not_found> will have  look in a bit :)
[16:55] <not_found> ... seeing as you are a boss with the google-fu I am also trying to see my radeon graphics cards temps in a similar fashion and so far no luck :/
[16:56] <not_found> geirha, ^^
[16:59] <geirha> what? I haven't used google at all today
[16:59] <geirha> are you sure your graphics card has thermometers?
[17:05] <not_found> geirha, ... very sure :) ... AMD Radeon HD 6850...
[17:06] <geirha> ls /proc/acpi
[17:08] <not_found> geirha, ac_adapter  battery  event  wakeup
[17:09] <geirha> I'm looking at  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65570/radeon-hd-6950-temperature-is-way-too-hot
[17:09] <geirha> Thinking the temperature might be found somewhere under /proc or /sys (given the top answer)
[17:10] <geirha> If so, you can script it for the sysmonitor indicator
[17:10] <not_found> geirha, sounds interesting...
[17:10] <not_found> will have to have a look at that then :D
[17:11] <geirha> or, try running   sensors  in a terminal
[17:13] <not_found> thanks... will be back
[17:13] <not_found> I am sure with more questions


[08:34] <MooDoo> howdy all
[08:42] <diplo> Morning all
[09:29] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[14:30] <daftykins> dead channel is dead, sheesh
[14:30]  * daftykins pokes at the user list with a pointy stick
[14:31]  * brobostigon is ouchie now, :(
[14:32] <daftykins> ah-ha, life!
[14:32]  * brobostigon checks, yes life.
[14:34]  * m0nkey_ remains dead
[14:36] <daftykins> how cold is your corner of Canuckistan?
[14:37] <m0nkey_> Not as cold
[14:38] <zmoylan-pi> just organise a few customers in australia... 47c in sydney in last few days...
[14:38] <m0nkey_> We're going to see some British weather
[14:38] <m0nkey_> 5C with rain
[14:38] <diplo> daftykins: quiet down please!
[14:38] <daftykins> :D
[14:39] <daftykins> i'm busy attempting to convince clients to replace their out of warranty HDDs this week (which form parts of NASs etc)
[14:39] <diplo> A lot of people are on telegram and other chat clients now, I still like IRC too though
[14:39] <diplo> I hate having to deal with things like that
[14:40] <daftykins> really? it's practically zero effort
[14:40] <daftykins> and eaaaaasy money :>
[14:41] <diplo> We've got a customer with a failed raid1 array, we've priced him a new drive, offered him a loan server ( already copied data ) all he has to do is sign a form to say if he doesn't return the server he'll get billed, been called and emailed 4 times and still hasn't responded
[14:41] <diplo> Will shout when the raid1 fails :)
[14:41] <diplo> Been failed disk for 6~ months or so
[14:41] <daftykins> ah that would be annoying
[14:41] <daftykins> be more tempting to pull the plug...
[14:45] <m0nkey_> should have used ZFS ;)
[14:48] <daftykins> heh that'd be one impressive setup that chased down the folks to pay the bills for you ;D
[14:53] <SuperMatt> word up y'all
[14:53] <daftykins> uh, hi :D
[14:54] <SuperMatt> :D


[21:42] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: or go into ctrl-alt-f1, or whatever vt you used and check if the app sends a verbose mesg indicating a prob.
[21:42] <ChogyDan> Silent_Dream: I would try anything you can to get any sort of boot
[21:43] <Silent_Dream> Yeah, I will work on this issue...fortunately windows seems to work fine
[21:43] <Silent_Dream> So ill use that until I can fix this
[21:43] <sjm> Silent_Dream, what's the problem?
[21:43] <Silent_Dream> sjm: Was upgrading 9.10 to 10.04 (doing an alternate iso upgrade), over my system
[21:43] <Silent_Dream> and, it froze, so I had to reboot, and now it hangs on the load menu, I dont think it ever finished installing
[21:43] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:fine. . .
[21:44] <Silent_Dream> so Im wondering how i can fix this
[21:44] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: have a particular hate for terminals?
[21:44] <Andriesss> anywhere I could look for updated drivers for touchpad?
[21:44] <zorkmidon> where can I set my default run level?
[21:44] <sjm> How was it partitioned?
[21:44] <cybrocop> Hi. I'm trying to get my laptop SD card working in Ubuntu 10.04 without any luck. Can anyone help.
[21:44] <bdesk> what can i apt-get install to get GL/gl.h ?
[21:45] <Silent_Dream> sjm: One partition for linux, one for windows, one for a dell recovery utility thing, I think...
[21:45] <sjm> Silent_Dream, how was it partitioned before (9.10)
[21:45] <aeon-ltd> zorkmidon: you could just not start X and you'd boot into runlvl 3
[21:45] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:nah i do almost every wrk via terminal
[21:45] <cybrocop> The odd thing is that when I insert the card, there are no dmesg messages printed at all. Shouldn't SOMETHING be logged in dmesg?
[21:45] <bdesk> I tried to install.packages('clusterSim') in R, but one of its dependencies wanted this gl.h file.
[21:45] <Silent_Dream> sjm: THe partitioning doesnt seem any different now, just the fact that linux wont boot anymore
[21:45] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:every app i open using terminal send th message back in terminal
[21:45] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:i open all apps using app_name &
[21:45] <zorkmidon> aeon-ltd, I know but is there a file like inittab?
[21:46] <gigasoft> how to switch to another group in terminal ?
[21:46] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: oh, so going to the vt is pointless
[21:46] <thune3> glace: can you show the actual command that is causing this problem
[21:46] <aeon-ltd> zorkmidon: i don't use ubuntu or a debian based distro so i wouldn't know
[21:46] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: does vlc show problems?
[21:46] <sjm> Silent_Dream, the "easiest" might be to just reinstall.  You can boot into a live cd to save off documents and settings first.
[21:46] <zorkmidon> aeon-ltd, thanks m8.
[21:47] <shiftingcontrol> aeon_ltd:i often find vlc printing message not enough space ,some kind of thing related to memory
[21:48] <verily> I am currently unable to properly load my desktop w/o going into failsafe X mode (where it works perfectly btw). I get this -> http://tiny.cc/k2dza goofy artifact. I am using a newly installed 10.04 w/ fully updated drivers (inc. proprietary 4 my card). The problem appears to be with my X configuration, but I am unsure how to proceed, as i don't know what a sane & default X looks like in 10.04. Any thoughts to push me in the righ
[21:48] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: so mostlikely a bug, then theres not much to do besides wait and report it
[21:48] <Silent_Dream> sjm: Perhaps I can do this...although I would have to reinstall a fair amount of things
[21:49] <Silent_Dream> sjm: I know how to boot into a LiveCD and I have one on me
[21:49] <Silent_Dream> once there, though, how can I recover my files?
[21:49] <Silent_Dream> and settings
[21:49] <shiftingcontrol> aeon_ltd:i often find in system tray menu at right extreme icon missing ,mostly contains shut down and log off is missing,instead i find ubuntu one chat menu repeated
[21:49] <sjm> Silent_Dream, save the "." directories under your home directory for your settings
[21:50] <sjm> Silent_Dream, I'd probably save your whole /home tree to a different drive/partition
[21:50] <ChogyDan> Silent_Dream: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[21:50] <sjm> Silent_Dream, (in a terminal:  cp -rp /home /path/to/save/to/)
[21:51] <glace> thune3: er.. I use "less" in gnome-terminal to show a file.. and then I press "/" and some words.. and when I press the enter key , it does not work... just add "ESCOM" behind what I input...
[21:51] <pifuka_> .info
[21:52] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: this gnome-panel?
[21:52] <shiftingcontrol> yea
[21:52] <trism> bdesk: probably want mesa-common-dev, apt-file search will find files in the repo if you install it and sudo apt-file update;
[21:52] <sjm> Silent_Dream, try what ChogyDan gave you (though I still might save the home directory tree first).
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: running compiz?
[21:53] <bdesk> trism: thanks!  i did not know about apt-file search.
[21:53] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:lots of bug i find in 10.04 ,suddenly my folder icon and appearance setting are changed,once i restart it wrks fine
[21:53] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:compiz means?
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: compiz fusion
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: compositing could be causing the problems in gnome panel and vlc
[21:54] <Silent_Dream> sjm: its true that all the user's settings are in /home folder? boy thats nice
[21:54] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:hw t find it?
[21:54] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: its in appearences on the effects tab
[21:55] <Gryllida> how do I clone a project in mercurial?
[21:55] <Silent_Dream> I really should have done backups first, not aftewards, I will definitely backup my home folder
[21:55] <sam_> Hi i have a privilege problem. Can anyone help ?
[21:55] <sjm> Silent_Dream, yes, that's one reason many have /home on a separate partition so that if a reinstall is required you can just use it as is without a reformat.
[21:56] <neena> Gryllida: 'hg clone repopath'?
[21:56] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:yea i find that happening,if i remove the package and reinstall ll it wrk properly?
[21:56] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: so your using compiz effects?
[21:56] <Silent_Dream> sjm: That sounds pretty cool, is there some sort of guide for setting that up
[21:56] <neena> sam_: if you tell us what the problem is..
[21:57] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:as of my knowledge i neva installed manually does tad come by default ?
[21:57] <sjm> Silent_Dream, don't think so, but it's offered, if I remember correctly, as one of the partitioning options at install time.
[21:57] <CNLiberal> can anyone tell me what I can't get minicom to work at 14400?
[21:57] <aeon-ltd> shiftingcontrol: yeah
[21:57] <Silent_Dream> Oh I see, so they walk you through it
[21:57] <CNLiberal> it's not even an option in the setup, and I can't set it manually at the command prompt
[21:57] <shiftingcontrol> aeon-ltd:ok,thank yu!
[21:58] <marine1> need help connecting scanner all else works printer, copy and fax
[21:58] <sjm> Silent_Dream, I think the options are similar to: 1) easy (all one partition - more Windows like) 2) separate partitions for several things and 3) manual partitioning.
[21:58] <sam_> i cant reboot, halt or mount any drive (ntfs, fat) without logging as root
[21:58] <thune3> glace: seems bizzare. unless you have some keybindings in a ~/.less file, I can't think of anything.
[21:59] <marine1> hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner
[21:59] <Silent_Dream> sjm: So is 2) then the home partition on a separate drive
[21:59] <neena> sam_: run 'groups' in the terminal as the user
[21:59] <Silent_Dream> i mean, separate partition
[21:59] <Silent_Dream> folder/
[21:59] <marine1>  hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner???
[22:00] <sam_> my user is registered to cdrom, audio, video, plugdev, fuse, lpadmin, netdev, sambashare
[22:00] <lammda> how to understand from sensors command which fan speed is really for which part of my computers ?
[22:00] <neena> sam_: check with the output of groups run as a user who can mount/unmount/shutdown. can other users do it fine?
[22:00] <marine1> lsub lists both devices but only webcam is seen in programs
[22:00] <TMac> Hey, how do I delete files in Directory A if their name appears in Directory B?
[22:01] <vu1kan> I'm having a bit of trouble getting a ppa to resolve properly.  I added it using <sudo add-apt-repository ppa:loell/ppa>, but the keyserver times out. Now that did add the line to my software sources, but when i <apt-get update>, it gives 404 Not Found. is this a serverside issue, or something i'm doing?
[22:01] <daichi> i would like a command to not require a password
[22:02] <sam_> i have an "admin" user, who also cannot do the tasks. He is registered to admin adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare
[22:02] <jrib> hello, running "sudo ifconfig eth1 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55" results in "SIOCSIFHWADDR: Too many open files in system" and seems to make it impossible to connect anymore.  How can I change my mac address?  (I am using the broadcom sta driver)
[22:02] <toni>  i have to go to accessories?
[22:02] <jrib> sam_: do what tasks?
[22:02] <toni> Sugar
[22:02] <barfster> What is the name of the dev package?
[22:02] <daichi> and i think by default, my username is in sudo group, so what do i add in the /etc/sudoers file ? >> %sudo USERNAME=NOPASSWD: a2ensite ??
[22:02] <toni> to download MSN messenger, do i have to go to accessories?
[22:03] <lammda> how to understand from "sensors" command which fan speed is really for which part of my computers ?
[22:03] <jrib> barfster: erm, "the dev package" for what?  Do you mean build-essential?
[22:03] <sam_> shutdown, rebbot and mount any drives (ntfs, fat)
[22:03] <bazhang> toni, you mean amsn ?
[22:03] <jrib> toni: msn messenger is a windows program
[22:03] <barfster> jrib: is that the one with gcc and gdb inside?
[22:03] <jrib> sam_: how are you trynig to shutdown for example?
[22:03] <marine1>  hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner.?? Need help establishing connection
[22:03] <barfster> and that are the base for c and cpp compilation?
[22:03] <jrib> barfster: well it will include gcc, yes...
[22:03] <toni> Jrib: yes i no that, but someone told me i have to have " Wine " first
[22:03] <jrib> !wine | toni
[22:04] <sam_> in gnome, using indicator applet
[22:04] <daichi> I would like to use the command "a2ensite" without password prompt.... and i think by default, my username is in sudo group, so what do i add in the /etc/sudoers file ? >> %sudo USERNAME=NOPASSWD: a2ensite ??
[22:04] <Silent_Dream> thanks guys
[22:04] <Silent_Dream> for the help I will be back later if I have further inquries
[22:04] <jrib> daichi: « man sudoers » should have examples.  Make sure you use visudo to edit.
[22:05] <toni> Jrib: yes i no that, but someone told me i have to have " Wine " first
[22:05] <daichi> jrib, i tried an example from man sudoers -- didn't work... i got an error
[22:05] <jrib> toni: did you read what ubottu told you?
[22:05] <toni> yess :O
[22:05] <jrib> daichi: what did you try exactly?  What error did you get?
[22:05] <jrib> toni: then what is your question?  It tells you how to use wine
[22:05] <toni> Jrib: yes , but im new to this , and i dont no very much
[22:06] <marine1>  hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner??? Need help establishing connection.. O.K. there is 1450 people here someone has to have this knowledge
[22:06] <jrib> toni: don't use msn messenger, use some native program like the default empathy, pidgin or amsn
[22:06] <Phong_> ubuntu
[22:06] <toni> jrib: but thats the only program that i no, that i can use webcam
[22:06] <daichi> parse error... i tried "USER  MACHINE_NAME = NOPASSWD: a2ensite"
[22:06] <CNLiberal> anyone know how to set a serial port to 14400?
[22:06] <jrib> toni: it's "know", not "no".  I'm not sure if the others use webcam or not
[22:07] <jrib> !who | daichi
[22:07] <toni> jrib: haha sorry :p
[22:07] <vu1kan> !patience | marine1
[22:07] <CNLiberal> i tried stty -F /dev/ttyS1 14400 but it gave me an error
[22:07] <jrib> daichi: what did you actually type in sudoers?
[22:07] <daichi> jrib: "daichi  shizen=NOPASSWD: a2ensite"
[22:08] <sam_> jrib: any idea ?
[22:08] <bastidrazor> daichi: yourusername ALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD:/path/to/a2ensite  would be the proper format..
[22:08] <toni> ive been using that program for ever , and im use to it , haha and i want it on my computerr :O
[22:08] <sam_> neena: any idea ??
[22:09] <microcluster> what linux usb distro?
[22:09] <jrib> daichi: what you said should work, you should probably give full path though.  What was the actual error
[22:09] <daichi> syntax error
[22:10] <neena> sam_: not really, did you do anything to break it?
[22:10] <daichi> jrib: syntax error
[22:10] <daichi> jrib: that my sudoers file is broken on line 31
[22:10] <Roasted> Intel wifi drivers are integrated in linux, right? I just put an intel card in this laptop that was supposedly supported but it doesnt show me any wireless devices available.
[22:10] <jrib> toni: then use wine to install it.  Read the appdb for specific msn messenger instructions after reading ubottu's link
[22:10] <sam_> neena: sometimes after a system update, it comes back. But still a few days later a loose my privileges
[22:10] <jrib> !appdb > toni
[22:11] <toni> thanks
[22:12] <jrib> daichi: only thing I do differently is surround the = with spaces, but I'm not sure that is significant
[22:12] <daichi> how do i locate where the command "a2ensite" is?
[22:12] <marine1>  hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner??? Need help establishing connection..
[22:12] <Milk> can anyone here help me with a dns problem
[22:12] <jrib> daichi: which a2ensite
[22:12] <Milk> ubuntu 10.04
[22:13] <jrib> Milk: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:13] <daichi> how do you use the visudo command? i didn't use visudo before
[22:13] <Milk> ok
[22:13] <jrib> daichi: sudo visudo    How are you getting syntax errors if you aren't using visudo?
[22:13] <daichi> visudo /etc/sudoers ?
[22:13] <jrib> daichi: no, just what I wrote
[22:14] <seiya42> Somebody told me to use the "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" command to wipe a hard drive. Is it supposed to end at some point or does it just keep writing zeros to the hard drive until I stop it?
[22:14] <daichi> ah thanks jrib
[22:14] <toni> How do i use that Wine thing?
[22:14] <toni> :(
[22:14] <jrib> toni: why are you ignoring what I've told you?
[22:14] <Milk> can anyone here help me with a dns problem on ubuntu 10.04 i cant connect when i type the routers dns adress but i can use a public dns. also the routers dns address works on this computer
[22:14] <toni> jrib: sorry i was doing something else and i didnt see what you were saying .
[22:15] <piglit> i have got an old pc sempron 3000+ and i want to play a hd movie, but the sempron is to slow, can i stream the video from an other pc witch is faster to the slow one?
[22:15] <jrib> toni: /msg ubottu !wine   and   /msg ubottu !appdb   (read the msn messenger entry).  Personally, I would check out amsn and empathy first
[22:16] <toni> ok thanks
[22:16] <marine1> need help connecting scanner all else works printer, copy and fax
[22:16] <Roasted> Intel wifi drivers are integrated in linux, right? I just put an intel card in this laptop that was supposedly supported but it doesnt show me any wireless devices available.
[22:16] <marine1> hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner
[22:16] <EgyParadox> Milk: You cannot access the router through the browser?
[22:16] <glace> thune3: thanks a lot.. When I do the same thing under tty1 , it just work normally ... >_< I really don't know the reason...
[22:17] <marine1> hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner.?? Need help establishing connection
[22:17] <Milk> EgyParadox: i cant.. but im on a public dns server does that change anything ?
[22:18] <nathandyer> Is there a way to crack the DRM on iTunes videos to watch on Ubuntu?
[22:19] <EgyParadox> Milk: I believe yes since public dns servers resolves domain names over the internet, public DNS servers wont resolve private addresses I believe e.g 192.168.XX.XX
[22:19] <marine1> hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner.?? Need help establishing connection
[22:20] <Loshki> seiya42: it should stop automatically after it has filled the drive with zeroes...
[22:20] <EgyParadox> Your router will use a private IP address, if you need to access it you can access it using its IP address.
[22:20] <marine1> 1436 people here, has to be a few folks here with the knowledge to tackle this
[22:20] <marine1> hp officejet 4500 wireless has full support but x-sane only sees my web cam not scanner.?? Need help establishing connection
[22:20] <Milk> EgyParadox: ive changed the dns server but still i cant access the router
[22:21] <ridin> marine1, maybe try another program?
[22:21] <EgyParadox> I believe this is a network issue.
[22:21] <Loshki> marine1: have you tried running xsane as root, just to see if it's a permissions problem?
[22:21] <frxstrem> how can I start a program whenever the computer starts, as a background process?
[22:21] <marine1> Loshki: no that is not the problem
[22:21] <jrib> !startup | frxstrem
[22:21] <mifadir> hi
[22:22] <mifadir> is it possible to install openvz kernel from apt?
[22:22] <daichi> jrib: i did as you said... i tried running my script with the command... i get the permission denied error
[22:22] <EgyParadox> Milk: If you tried the same configuration from another OS and the same problem exists then its not an Ubuntu issue.
[22:22] <frxstrem> jrib: actually, that wasn't what I was looking for - I think it was !boot
[22:22] <Loshki> marine1: you've tried it? What happened?
[22:22] <nathandyer> Is there a way to watch DRM'd iTunes videos in Ubuntu?
[22:22] <mifadir> is it possible to install openvz kernel from apt?
[22:23] <bebo> hi to all
[22:23] <bastidrazor> daichi: you still need to use sudo but it shouldn't ask password
[22:23] <Milk> EgyParadox: im on the same network on this computer wich is running on mac osx and it works fine here
[22:23] <Loshki> frxstrem: boot time stuff is usually best started from /etc/rc.local...
[22:23] <Roasted> Intel wifi drivers are integrated in linux, right? I just put an intel card in this laptop that was supposedly supported but it doesnt show me any wireless devices available.
[22:23] <daichi> i put "daichi ALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/a2ensite"
[22:23] <jrib> frxstrem: depends on what you are doing.  What are you doing? :)
[22:23] <jrib> daichi: this isn't what I said
[22:23] <marine1> Loshki: a message pops up saying it's dangerous to run xsane as root
[22:23] <gustavo> Hey, I need help restoring dpkg. I was doing an upgrade when the power was cut. When I logged back in, dpkg wasnt working. I get this msg: "apt-get dist-upgrade -f". ive tried doing that, but doesnt work. Someone?
[22:24] <daichi> bastidrazor: so in my bash script i put... "sudo a2ensite $sitename"
[22:24] <Loshki> marine1: that's true, but this is just for testing. Does it find the scanner?
[22:24] <frxstrem> Loshki: yeah, I messages ubottu and it told me that; jrib: I want to make a PHP script (a DNS server) run when the computer is started - before users log in
[22:24] <jrib> gustavo: be less vague...
[22:24] <marine1> Loshki: it opens fine but it has my webcam listed
[22:25] <gustavo> sorry, the full msg is: " dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[22:25] <gustavo> which i did
[22:25] <jrib> gustavo: continue...
[22:25] <gustavo> im transliting, just a sec
[22:26] <jrib> gustavo: just run it prefixed with "LANG=C"
[22:26] <gustavo> ok, i get this: "failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0038' for reading: No such file or directory"
[22:27] <gustavo> ive also tried all these commands, but al i get is the 1st msg: sudo apt-get clean
[22:27] <gustavo> sudo apt-get update
[22:27] <gustavo> sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:27] <gustavo> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:27] <FloodBot1> gustavo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <marine1> Loshki: it only finds my webcam not scanner
[22:28] <jrib> gustavo: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates/
[22:30] <gustavo> cannot access /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0043: No such file or directory
[22:31] <gustavo> then a list of about 30 file names
[22:31] <gustavo> the same msg
[22:31] <jrib> gustavo: 1) stop pressing enter so much.  2) please use my nick if you are answering me.  3) pastebin what you ran and the full output please
[22:32] <Loshki> marine1: how are the webcam and scanner connected? usb?
[22:32] <gustavo> jrib sorry, i dont know what pastebin is
[22:32] <jrib> !pastebin | gustavo
[22:32] <marine1> LOs
[22:32] <marine1> Loshki: yes
[22:33] <marine1> Loshki: thru USB but the program has it listed as a webcam
[22:34] <Milk> can anyone here help me with a dns problem on ubuntu 10.04 i cant connect when i use the routers dns adress but i can use a public dns. also the routers dns address works on this computer
[22:34] <gustavo> jrib this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/460396/
[22:35] <jrib> gustavo: you need to fsck the partition
[22:35] <Loshki> marine1: can you run 'sudo lsusb -v' and pastebin the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[22:35] <gustavo> jrib ok, how do i do that?
[22:35] <jrib> gustavo: sudo touch /forcefsck    and then reboot should be sufficient
[22:36] <robot_> quick question, this might be stupid, but somehow I got my mouse into "drag" mode, when i click on windows I cannot select text or click on buttons, I can only drag the entire window, when I hold the "ctrl" button it makes the mouse behave normally... how do I get out of this mode (restarting ubuntu does not help)
[22:36] <avi93> hey
[22:37] <marine1> Loshki: i'm doing it now
[22:37] <avi93> anyone can help with nvidia drivers?
[22:37] <daichi> jrib: "daichi ALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/a2ensite" works perfectly well... but everytime I use sudo... no matter what command... it just passes through. I want sudo to prompt for password on every command (default) except 'a2ensite'
[22:37] <Loshki> marine1: ok, take your time...
[22:37] <warz> hi all. i'm using vsftpd, and virtual users. when a user uploads a file it has a file permissions of only that user can rwx. i need their uploads to be globally rwx. i've been changing the local_umask setting but nothing has changed in regards to uploaded permissions. does anyone know how to resolve this? i figure maybe somebody else in here might have dealt with this before?
[22:37] <gustavo> jrib, ok, ill try rebooting now. i come back afterwards.
[22:37] <avi93> anyone can help with nvidia drivers?
[22:37] <Rafase_282> hello
[22:37] <jrib> daichi: pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[22:37] <bazhang> avi93, ask a question
[22:38] <Rafase_282> can anyone help me? i want to install an armel version of lucid. I need a mirror. Im using deboostrap
[22:38] <draco_> Isn't Devloperweek going on?
[22:38] <rolandpish> What is the apt command to get the repository of a package?
[22:38] <draco_> developer*
[22:38] <jrib> rolandpish: apt-cache policy
[22:38] <bazhang> draco_, in #ubuntu-meeting ?
[22:39] <rolandpish> jrib, thanks!
[22:39] <Roasted> Intel wifi drivers are integrated in linux, right? I just put an intel card in this laptop that was supposedly supported but it doesnt show me any wireless devices available.
[22:39] <Rafase_282> anyone has any idea?
[22:39] <daichi> jrib: http://pastebin.com/3WZHrU6d -- line 31
[22:39] <marine1> Loshki: ok do you need the address?
[22:39] <marine1> Loshki: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PA4G6LJ4
[22:39] <Oer> Rafase_282, http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[22:39] <Loshki> marine1: perfect, let me look it over...
[22:39] <avi93> bazhang: after i upgraded to 10.4, compiz stoped work... so went to system > Adminstration > Hardware Drivers to install my drivers again.... but there is no drivers.. it's just empty
[22:39] <draco_> thanks, but I think it's classroom something? maybe it's called something else week.... *goes to google*
[22:40] <soreau> avi93: Which card do you have?
[22:40] <bazhang> avi93, which card
[22:40] <jrib> daichi: sudo caches your password by default for a few minutes.  Are you sure that's not what you are experiencing?  Try « sudo -k » and then sudo your_command_that_should_prompt_for_a_passowrd
[22:40] <bazhang> draco_, #ubuntu-classroom ?
[22:40] <daichi> oh yeah... bummer, i forgot about caching... let me try again
[22:40] <avi93> nvidia geforce 9600 GT
[22:40] <draco_> thanks
[22:41] <soreau> avi93: You need to install the mod alias package(s) for the drivers to appear in jockey
[22:41] <avi93> soreau, from the synaptic?
[22:41] <soreau> avi93: apt-cache search nvidia|grep modalias
[22:42] <daichi> jrib: you were right :P
[22:42] <avi93> soreau, which i need to install?
[22:42] <Rafase_282> i need help
[22:43] <soreau> avi93: Don't pm me
[22:43] <i> السلام عليكم
[22:43] <avi93> KK
[22:43] <soreau> avi93: and use a pastebin service if you want to show text
[22:43] <freezway> i updated and chromium now has its buttons on the left. i like them on the rihgt
[22:43] <freezway> how do i move them back
[22:43] <soreau> avi93: I already know what the output is, it's the same on any 10.04 system
[22:44] <freezway> the minimize maximize close ones
[22:44] <jrib> freezway: just chromium?
[22:44] <freezway> yes
[22:44] <daichi> i would like to use my bash script to automatically add "<IP_ADDRESS>  sitename.localhost" to /etc/hosts -- how would i do this in bash?
[22:44] <freezway> im fine with all the others on the left
[22:44] <soreau> avi93: You probably just want the -current package
[22:44] <freezway> but chromium is now on the left... and i hate it
[22:44] <jrib> !controls | freezway
[22:45] <marine1> Loshki: lsusb
[22:45] <marine1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:2e12 Hewlett-Packard
[22:45] <avi93>  soreau, Thank you!!!
[22:45] <soreau> avi93: Did it work?
[22:45] <EgyParadox> Milk: You are using Network Manager?
[22:46] <avi93> soreau: ohh no... it's already installed
[22:46] <freezway> jrib, I KNOW. i upDATED not upGRADED. i was using lucid and they were on the right. the i ran sudo apt-get upgrade and now they are on the left
[22:46] <Milk> EgyParadox: i dont think so
[22:46] <soreau> avi93: Ok, install the 18*.xx and later versioned packages
[22:46] <EgyParadox> Milk: Try it then
[22:46] <jrib> freezway: so?
[22:46] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:47] <freezway> jrib, I DONT WANT THEM THERE!
[22:47] <jrib> freezway: ok.  So did you do what ubottu told you to do if you don't want them there?
[22:47] <Rafase_282> can someone help me with deboostrap?
[22:47] <soreau> avi93: From that modalias list, of course
[22:47] <Roasted> Intel wifi drivers are integrated in linux, right? I just put an intel card in this laptop that was supposedly supported but it doesnt show me any wireless devices available.
[22:47] <Milk> EgyParadox: how ?
[22:47] <avi93> soreau: 180 and 185? install them both? or only the 185?
[22:47] <LittleWolf1> booo
[22:47] <marine1> Loshki: did you find anything
[22:47] <Loshki> marine1: closest I can find is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/549073. I don't think it helps much :-)
[22:48] <soreau> avi93: See, you're not installing the driver, you're just making that version of the driver available in the jockey list (sys>admin>hardware drivers)
[22:48] <freezway> jrib, no i JUST WANT CHROMIUM'S on the right
[22:48] <daichi> i would like to use my bash script to automatically add "<IP_ADDRESS>  sitename.localhost" to /etc/hosts -- how would i do this in bash?
[22:48] <robot_> PLEAASE HELP =D, this might be stupid, but somehow I got my mouse into "drag" mode (perhaps this mode has a different name?), when i click on windows I cannot select text or click on buttons, I can only drag the entire window, when I hold the "ctrl" button it makes the mouse behave normally... how do I get out of this mode (restarting ubuntu does not help)
[22:48] <EgyParadox> You are using ethernet or WIFi?
[22:48] <soreau> avi93: So you might as well install all the modalias packages corresponding to driver versions that support your card
[22:48] <avi93> soreau: already installed
[22:49] <jrib> freezway: can you stop with the caps?  It's a bit annoying.  The only way you might be able to do that is if you use a different theme just for chromium and I'm not sure that's even possible
[22:49] <soreau> avi93: Then it should appear in the jockey list
[22:49] <gustavo> jrib, just to tell you that it worked. thanks a lot.
[22:50] <jrib> gustavo: no problem
[22:50] <Loshki> daichi: something like: echo "<IP_ADDRESS>  sitename.localhost" >> /etc/hosts  <--- note the double >> sign
[22:50] <freezway> jrib, sorry, im having a realllllly bad day. im not sure why it started doing this. before i updated (i was running lucid) the buttons for chromium were on the right. now they aren't
[22:50] <avi93> soreau: but for some reason it's not appearing there
[22:51] <jrib> freezway: I don't use chromium.  Does it not use the window manager's title bar? Does it implement its own then?
[22:51] <freezway> jrib, its own
[22:51] <LjL> jrib: i don't think it uses the WM's titlebar, no
[22:51] <soreau> avi93: Is this an upgrade from the previous version of ubuntu?
[22:51] <LjL> jrib: not by default anyway. can be made to.
[22:51] <avi93> soreau: yea
[22:52] <soreau> avi93: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy jockey-gtk'?
[22:52] <soreau> ! paste | avi93
[22:52] <jrib> freezway: oh, it's probably a matter of changing chromium's theme then, I don't know anything about it however.  Maybe this will help: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=39406
[22:53] <tenochslb> guys i need a iso burner that works great and allows me to reduce the speed to 4x. I burned lubuntu iso and the the md5 turn out different. Please any advices would be great i am on ubuntu 10.04
[22:53] <switch10_> tenochslb: brasero
[22:53] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[22:53] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[22:53] <avi93> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/460400/
[22:54] <LittleWolf1> Hello, will it hurt my system if I'm always logged as administrator?
[22:54] <tenochslb> switch10_, i had brasero but did not find the option to reduce the burning speed
[22:54] <switch10_> tenochslb: its there
[22:54] <freezway> jrib, thats my issue... doesn't offer a solution
[22:55] <tenochslb> ok let me reinstall it again and tell where it is, switch10_
[22:55] <NigelS> jrib, freezway: the funny thing is that the issue here was considered a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/568307 and the last round of updates corrected it
[22:56] <adac> http://pastie.org/1035074 any ideas hwo to solve this issue?
[22:56] <freezway> NigelS, but i dont want them on the left. isn't there a way to move ONLY chromiums on the right?@
[22:56] <jrib> freezway: not really.  The solution to that bug is your issue actually.  The bug is that chromium didn't respect to the metacity settings in gconf.  The fix was to make it check the gconf settings and behave accordingly.  You want it to NOT do that.
[22:56] <LittleWolf1> Hello, will it hurt my system if I'm always logged as administrator?
[22:56] <avi93> soreau: any idea?
[22:56] <slowfuse> Attempting to use ssh -D as socks proxy instead of squid (http proxy).  Firefox and Pidgin work using system settings, but apt-get does not.  Any way to fix?
[22:56] <freezway> jrib, correct
[22:56] <jrib> LittleWolf1: what do you mean by "administrator"?
[22:57] <Barnabas> LittleWolf1, yes
[22:57] <NigelS> freezway: certainly, if you replicate the bug :) I haven't looked into the issue but it seems like its use of gnome themes was such that it wasn't reading gconf keys
[22:57] <LittleWolf1> there's still a 1 stuck by my name? damn it
[22:57] <jrib> freezway: depending on how much time you want to invest, create a patch to offer such a setting
[22:57] <LittleWolf1> I am a linux newbie,  but I read that being logged on as root user can hurt your system
[22:57] <LittleWolf1> SHoudl I make an account to use regularly, and if so, which permissions should it have to be workable?
[22:57] <bastidrazor> LittleWolf1: if you're using 10.04 you are unable to login as root
[22:57] <avi93> LittleWolf1: it's just not safe
[22:57] <jrib> LittleWolf1: it doesn't "hurt" it.  It's what you do with it that hurts it...
[22:58] <avi93> LittleWolf1: you better dont do it
[22:58] <LittleWolf1> Well, I am quite a dumbass
[22:58] <freezway> jrib, my programming knowledge = "create a window with glut and tell if 'a' is pressed"
[22:58] <jrib> LittleWolf1: well you can't login as root by default anyway
[22:58] <Barnabas> LittleWolf1, if you start firefox on the net as root you ask for it ...
[22:58] <citrus2> sudo bash && passwd root
[22:58] <jrib> freezway: you can comment on the bug ?
[22:58] <LittleWolf1> I'm getting conflicting answers
[22:58]  * jrib sighs...
[22:58] <jrib> LittleWolf1: which ones conflict?
[22:59] <bazhang> LittleWolf1, use sudo, that's enough
[22:59] <closedbracket> what is the recommended way of installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac Intel? VM or Bootcamp? If VM, which? Had some trouble with Virtualbox in the past...
[22:59] <LittleWolf1> Well, you say I can't log on as root user
[22:59] <EgyParadox> LittleWolf: When you log in as root, that means everything running in background will be under root which is dangerous actually.
[22:59] <LittleWolf1> @_@
[22:59] <bazhang> LittleWolf1, /msg ubottu sudo and read up
[22:59] <LittleWolf1> okay
[23:00] <bazhang> !manual | LittleWolf1 and have a look at this
[23:00] <Barnabas> LittleWolf1, sudo is the tool you need - perhaps gksudo
[23:00] <jrib> closedbracket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[23:00] <LittleWolf1> I am still learning about sudo
[23:00] <EgyParadox> everything actually will be run as root.
[23:01] <EgyParadox> !sudo>LittleWolf1
[23:01] <Barnabas> or any user you choose
[23:01] <LittleWolf1> JUst to clarify, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 recently, and I was warned not to use a root account as it can harm my system, so I was wondering what would be the best action to take before I move forwards
[23:01] <Barnabas> sudo -u <foo> <bar>
[23:01] <jrib> LittleWolf1: why do you even care about root or sudo?  Just use your system
[23:01] <alteregoa> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
[23:02] <Barnabas> alteregoa, cool
[23:02] <EgyParadox> LittleWolf1: Use root only when you need it.
[23:02] <EgyParadox> thats all
[23:02] <LittleWolf1> Because I don't like to mess with things I don't understand, I'm trying to learn about them so I don't run into them unexpectedly
[23:02] <alteregoa> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
[23:02] <jrib> LittleWolf1: right, just use the gui tools to do what you want.  If you need to do things that a regular user can't do, use sudo.  But the official documentation will tell you if you need to do so and how
[23:02] <closedbracket> jrib: thanks, that's what I needed
[23:03] <LittleWolf1> So the usename and password I entered when I installed ubuntu are not really a root account?
[23:03] <jrib> closedbracket: personally, refit works fine
[23:03] <bazhang> LittleWolf1, thus reading the manual is a good step
[23:03] <tenochslb> switch10_ ok i have brasero how do i set up the burning speed to 4x?
[23:03] <jrib> LittleWolf1: no.  It's a user with sudo privileges
[23:03] <bazhang> LittleWolf1, such basic issues are handled there
[23:04] <wizard_> hello all need some help on 2 issues 1st whats the command line to install java sudo apt-get install ?
[23:04] <LittleWolf1> I did read various manuals and guides, but some parts are not easy for me to grasp =/
[23:04] <sebsebseb> !java | wizard_
[23:04] <bazhang> LittleWolf1, well the ubuntu manual is the best of them. give it a read first please
[23:04] <LittleWolf1> It's basic to you guys, but the terminology is confusing at my stage ;___;
[23:04] <jrib> LittleWolf1: http://ubuntu-manual.org/ and http://help.ubuntu.com are generally very readable
[23:05] <LittleWolf1> OKay! I'll read them, thanks again =)
[23:05] <daichi> anyone know why i get this error when i restart apache? Syntax error on line 5 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ssl: SSLCertificateFile: file '/etc/ssl/private/localhost.pem' does not exist or is empty
[23:05] <moody> prawn, still there?
[23:05] <jrib> daichi: seems like it tells you the problem
[23:05] <daichi> but the file exists and its populated
[23:06] <freezway> can i rollback a update?
[23:06] <trickx51> hello....i was wondering if anyone could tell help me with a liveCD installation?
[23:06] <bazhang> freezway, no
[23:06] <jrib> daichi: ask #httpd
[23:07] <daichi> no answer yet
[23:07] <citrus2> daichi  yeah that error just says that your vhost in ssl is looking for localhost.pem (don't know why)  either way it doesn't apear to be there
[23:07] <daichi> citrus2: the file exists and it has content in it... dont know what's up
[23:07] <citrus2> are you trying to get an ssl website working?
[23:07] <Wipster> here is a question for ya, downloading..... firefox seems to freeze up at 1.2gb done. wget was also locking and doing bursts after 1.2 what gives
[23:08] <daichi> yes
[23:08] <citrus2> did you buy an cert or are you trying to use self signed?
[23:08] <daichi> self signed
[23:08] <citrus2> i got a link to a good site that helped me with that
[23:08] <trickx51> I wanted to know if there was a way to run ubuntu from a flashdrive with different applications then the ones already installed
[23:08] <citrus2> just a sec
[23:09] <wizard_> Can someone help with this Your Browser does not support Java.
[23:09] <wizard_> Please enable it or download from http://java.sun.com
[23:09] <wizard_> MyDSI Advanced WakeUp Help
[23:10] <wizard_> I am trying to remotely access my work computer and get this error
[23:10] <KB1JWQ> !java
[23:10] <fyretux> does anyone here know about the DS emulator for the PC called Desmume? i was playing pokemon on desmume, and when i loaded the game after desmume closed on me, the top screen went all black and i couldn't do anything(desmume is like the ds, it has two screens, a top, and bottom) anybody have any ideas why the screen went all black like that?
[23:10] <cutiyar> when I read DVD include data ,but when I want to copy them to my computer did not it said input/output error?
[23:10] <wizard_> using firefox
[23:10] <KB1JWQ> !ot | fyretux
[23:10] <malcolmci> Hey, has anyone worked out how to get firefox 4 beta 1 running with the official mozilla archive?
[23:11] <malcolmci> If I extract it and try to run ./firefox, it complains that firefox-bin doesn't exist ...
[23:11] <sebsebseb> malcolmci: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/firefox-41-beta-released.html
[23:12] <sebsebseb> malcolmci: oh actsualley that link probably isn't that helpful
[23:12] <malcolmci> sebsebseb: Yeah, thanks, seen that. Nothing helpful there, not in comments or links....
[23:12] <avi93> anyone knows how i can make make nvidia drivers to appear in jockey?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> malcolmci: anyway since its not a stable version of Firefox,  and the offical mozilla IRC is  irc.mozilla.org  it might be better to ask their.  Or maybe even on here in ##linux
[23:13] <malcolmci> sebsebseb: cheers, dude
[23:13] <wizard_> Resolved that issue
[23:13] <wizard_> can someone help with getting the mac like toolbar ?
[23:13] <avi93> anyone knows how i can make nvidia drivers to appear in jockey?
[23:14] <avi93> wizard: sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[23:14] <avi93> wizard: and then download the OSX theme from gnome look
[23:14] <avi93> anyone knows how i can make nvidia drivers to appear in jockey?
[23:14] <avi93> anyone knows how i can make make nvidia drivers appear again in jockey?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> malcolmci: theres also a #firefox on this network
[23:15] <wizard_> avi93, thanks then after that how do you activate it ?
[23:16] <avi93> wizard: you can import theme in cairo dock... just right click on it
[23:16] <wizard_> avi93, activated it how do I now remove the bottom bar ?
[23:17] <lfitz> when i load nfs-kernel-server it says FATAL: /path/to/dir does not support NFS.  all the configs are good, is this a kernel issue?
[23:18] <rmk> Where can I find the latest beta versions of packages
[23:19] <erUSUL> lfitz: and what  /path/to/dir pints to ? what filesystem ? separate partition
[23:19] <lfitz> erUSUL: /exports ext2 partition 1 same partition
[23:20] <Oddtod> Hey guys having an issue where web pages take forever to open up. Its not hardware because the VMware of XP browses just fine. Not network happens at all networks i go to. I believe its a DNS issue.
[23:20] <Adola> Good evening, I'm trying to run pcsxe, and I can't get it to work because of libraries, however, I've installed those libraries...http://adola.pastebin.com/1XchubKg
[23:20] <cutiyar> what mean by input/output error while copying data from dvd?
[23:21] <bkadoctaj> Hi, please forgive me if this is a pretty foolish question, but is there a way to change the icon theme in Gnome without also changing the GTK theme I already have?
[23:22] <kevr> sry for the disconnects, had some ssl probs.. all done [amsg]
[23:22] <erUSUL> bkadoctaj: system>preferences>apearance
[23:22] <tarrant> Oddtod: you can do a 'dig <site>' and it will give you the amount of time for a dns response.
[23:22] <Adola> Good evening, I'm trying to run pcsxe, and I can't get it to work because of libraries, however, I've installed those libraries...http://adola.pastebin.com/1XchubKg
[23:23] <bkadoctaj> erUSUL: I'm not sure what I should see in that applet.  There's nothing dealing with icons in particular.
[23:23] <dowxp> stupid question- can you put any pci-e device (tv card x1) into a graphics x16 slot?
[23:23] <erUSUL> bkadoctaj: in the first tab ( theme ) there is a button to personalize the current theme. in there you can change the icons or the gtk theme or the windows decorations
[23:24] <savid> Does anyone know of any apps that can scan my music library and automatically add tag information from the web?
[23:24] <bkadoctaj> erUSUL: wow, thank you!  Never noticed that little button.
[23:24] <Oddtod> tarrant: http://pastebin.org/385656
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !ot | dowxp
[23:24] <lfitz> how do you upgrade only the kernel in ubuntu
[23:24] <lfitz> i would like to run 2.6.34
[23:25] <craigbass1976> My wife is currently logged in.  Without switching users, how would I fire up thunderbird as me?
[23:25] <DrGrov> Perhaps some could give me some instructions on how to get E17 running on Ubuntu 10.04?
[23:25] <craigbass1976> I know in Centos I used to be able to just open a terminal, su to me, then type thunderbird
[23:26] <slidinghorn> lfitz, open synaptic and search for linux-headers   find the one you want and mark for installation
[23:26] <jrib> craigbass1976: give your user access to the display (if you don't care and just want to give everyone access « xhost + », then do what you said
[23:27] <slidinghorn> lfitz, however the one you want isn't available in the repos (i just looked) you'll have to compile from its source
[23:27] <craigbass1976> jrib, ok, I'll try it.
[23:27] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: use sudo ? sudo -u USER thunderbirth &
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> lfitz: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/   use at your own risk
[23:27] <tarrant> Oddtod: Do you have anything in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[23:27] <haavaros> Is there some way to remove the popup window for instant messages? I mean the little black square that turns transparent on mouseover
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> haavaros: do you want it completely gone, or just for one app?
[23:28] <Oddtod> # Generated by NetworkManager
[23:28] <Oddtod> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:28] <erUSUL> jrib: http://www.fooishbar.org/blog/tech/x/xhost-plus-2010-06-29-22-42.html  ;P
[23:28]  * savid just found picard music tagger :-)
[23:28]  * erUSUL wanted to throw that since he read it ... XD
[23:28] <ikonia> Oddtod: test your dns servers
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> savid: easyta is groovy too
[23:28] <Adola> I'm trying to run pcsxe, and I can't get it to work because of libraries, however, I've installed those libraries...http://adola.pastebin.com/1XchubKg
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> *easytag
[23:29] <slow-motion> n8
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Adola: is your ubuntu 64bit?
[23:29] <Oddtod> ikonia: happens at every place i use internet at home work school coffee shop
[23:29] <johngilbrough> If one downloads the 10.04 image from http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download and then runs an apt-get upgrade, it takes the better part of an hour to complete.  Is there a more current image available?
[23:29] <Adola> ActionParsnip: Yessir.
[23:29] <ikonia> Oddtod: ok, test your dns settings
[23:29] <guest2> since nobody seems to be alive in #kubuntu, after installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, Qt apps have windows95 theme under KDE.. anybody know a fix?
[23:29] <erUSUL> johngilbrough: no yet
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Adola: and what arch is the app you are running?
[23:29] <jrib> erUSUL: hey, I warned :P
[23:29] <Oddtod> ikonia; how do i do that?
[23:29] <m_tadeu> hi...I configured postfix but each mail I send is interpreted as spam in my gmail account
[23:29] <Adola> ActionParsnip: 32
[23:30] <erUSUL> jrib: fair enough ;P
[23:30] <ikonia> Oddtod: do lookup tests on your dns
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Adola: ok and did you download the 32bit debs and extract them, then copy the lib to /usr/lib32
[23:30] <haavaros> ActionParsnip: Hm ...only for empathy
[23:30] <MaRk-I> haavaros: http://digitizor.com/2009/09/12/how-to-disable-popup-bubble-notifications-in-empathy-messenger/
[23:30] <Adola> ActionParsnip: There are not .debs.  Only the binaries.
[23:31] <jrib> erUSUL: thanks though, I don't think I knew it was that easy
[23:31] <haavaros> MaRk-I: thx
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> haavaros: i dont use empathy but i'm sure there is a plugin you can disable to make it not use libnotify
[23:31] <erUSUL> jrib: neither did I. now in my tomboy notes
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Adola: you can extract debs to get the .so files which you then put in lib32
[23:32] <jrib> erUSUL: no mention of "localuser" in the man page :(
[23:32] <johngilbrough> When doing an apt-get upgrade, I get a WARNING: Failed to parse default value `[????????? ???????;gnome-appearance-properties.desktop,????????? ???????????? ???????????;gnome-default-applications.desktop,?????????? ??????????;system-config-printer.desktop] ' for schema (/schemas/apps/control-center/cc_actions_list)
[23:32] <johngilbrough>   -- is this anything to worry about?
[23:32] <ikonia> !paste | johngilbrough
[23:32] <Adola> ActionParsnip: I don't understand, what .deb do I need to get?  Because Pcsx2 doesn't have a .deb.
[23:33] <jrib> erUSUL: ah, « man Xsecurity » describes it
[23:33] <erUSUL> jrib: [+]name The  given  name (the plus sign is optional) is added to the list allowed to connect to the X server. further down --> A complete name has the syntax ``family:name''
[23:33] <erUSUL> jrib: and in the list local is a family
[23:34] <erUSUL> jrib: not sure where the SI comes from ...
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Adola: the deb for the files you are missing
[23:35] <Roasted> where are wireless settings stored? I just formatted a laptop with separate root/home partitions. I kept home. It auto connected to my network. Just curious where in home those preferences sit.
[23:35] <jrib> erUSUL: that's mentioned in xhost's man but it's detailed in Xsecurity
[23:35] <erUSUL> Roasted: in gconf use geconf-editor search for the network-manager keys
[23:36] <erUSUL> jrib: yep just took a look now
[23:36] <Roasted> gosh. ubuntu is running dog chit slow on this thing.
[23:36] <Oddtod> how would i just make my DNS google dns while using DHCP for my address?
[23:36] <Roasted> 1.5ghz single core proc and 1gb ram should be enough for 10.04 - right?
[23:36] <Adola> ActionParsnip: Ok, so I just need to try to find the .deb of each of the libraries I'm missing, and extract them to /usr/lib32/ ?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Adola: just the .so is all you need
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Oddtod: you set it up in network manager, its i the ipv4 settings
[23:36] <johngilbrough> Issue when doing a apt-get upgrade just after a new install I get an error - please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/460409/
[23:36] <lfitz> ActionParsnip: i should have specified the kernel is for armv5 sheevaplug
[23:36] <lfitz> i need it to be jaunty
[23:36] <lidow> \part
[23:37] <splashote> hey guys, is there any way I could stream the audio output of my system as an internet stream ? I want to use guayadeque to play music at the next party and use my NOXON internet radio as a client for the sound.... is it possible?
[23:38] <MaRk-I> splashote: maybe with VLC
[23:38] <splashote> i know there are icecast etc. but does any of this stream servers support grabbing the system sound and streaming it.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> splashote: vlc can do it
[23:39] <splashote> MaRk-I: i suppose i'd have to play the files in VLC directly? this might be a solution, but actually I'd love to play the music with guayadeque...
[23:39] <ridin> where are the default wallpapers located
[23:40] <Oddtod> ActionParsnip: thank you
[23:40] <skydrome> can anyone help me with this? i have other characters instead of lines -> http://imgur.com/V4GPF.png
[23:42] <MaRk-I> splashote: vlc has a way to stream, havent tried it and I have no idea what guayadeque is
[23:42] <splashote> guayadeque is a player like rhythmbox. but far better. It's in the maverick repo.
[23:43] <splashote> i'm right now reading a how to stream for vlc. my idea was to play the music with an independent audio player and to stream the sound directly... but probably it's easier to use one programme for playing and streaming..
[23:45] <juken> How can I get the monitor on the left to have the gnome panel and act as the primary display? When I do screen detection it's labeled 1, but it's not acting as the primary display. http://i.imgur.com/QnsJv.jpg
[23:45] <MaRk-I> splashote: is this inside a LAN or outside?
[23:45] <splashote> MaRk-I: inside. it'll be in the kitchen.
[23:45] <lfitz> ActionParsnip: the kernel is 2.6.30 for armv5 sheevplug, can i update this to the lucid kernel? i read lucid only supports a different version of arm
[23:46] <MaRk-I> splashote: if both PCs have same OS pulseaudio can stream what 1 is playing and the other one pick it up
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> lfitz: ive not used arm with ubuntu so cant really comment. You could upgrade to the newer releases to get later kernels.
[23:46] <splashote> one device is a simple NOXON internet radio. so it has to be a "common" mp3 stream
[23:52] <p1oooop> hello everyone...
[23:53] <soreau> ! hi | p1oooop
[23:53] <p1oooop> anyone know how to disable tty switching via alt + (+) and alt + (-)
[23:53] <p1oooop> thanks soreau
[23:54] <p1oooop> anyone?
[23:54] <soreau> p1l0t: What does alt +/- do?
[23:54] <soreau> er
[23:54] <soreau> p1oooop:
[23:55] <p1oooop> it switches ttys
[23:55] <cruzz> i bought a 2T WD drive that is supposedly 4k physical sectors... the ubuntu live CD hdparm -I says its 512b physical sectors... can it be wrong (perhaps my old machine's sata controller won't report 4k?)
[23:55] <cruzz> I want to be sure its 512bytes before I misformat the drive and get shitty performance
[23:55] <Daekdroom> p1oooop, I don't think it does..
[23:55] <teler666> \channel
[23:55] <p1oooop> I'm trying to se IRRSI properly and I need the alt + (+) and alt + (-) keys
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> cruzz: make sure your bios is the latest, you may need to use larger block sizes
[23:56] <p1oooop> Daekdroom: try it in a TTY
[23:56] <enaut> Question: I want to start my computer without the kernel module ipw2100 (wifi), but want to be able to load it later on during a session.
[23:56] <enaut> how can I achieve this effect?
[23:56] <Daekdroom> p1oooop, it doesn't do squat in here.
[23:57] <cruzz> ActionParsnip: right, but wouldn't I need to make sure fdisk doesn't misalight the partitions?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> enaut: you could add the rmmod command in /etc/rc.local
[23:57] <p1oooop> Daekdroom: really...
[23:57] <xangua> enaut: sudo modprobe ipw2100 ¿¿
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> cruzz: i guess yeah
[23:57] <xangua> or the module name, i don't think that is
[23:57] <jan247> hi guys, how many outgoing tcp connections can a linux box have? i'm hoping to perform load tests with around 100k to 200k connections..
[23:57] <p1oooop> Daekdroom: I guess my terminal just sucks
[23:57] <p1oooop> Daekdroom: did you switch to a non-GUI terminal before tring it?
[23:57] <p1oooop> *tying
[23:57] <Daekdroom> p1l0t, of course.
[23:57] <p1oooop> *tring
[23:57] <p1oooop> darnit..
[23:57] <p1oooop> alright...
[23:58] <Daekdroom> CRTL + ALT + F1, logged in and tried all possible ALTs and -'s and +'s there's in my keyboard.
[23:58] <Daekdroom> None of them switched from tty1
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> jan247: 65535 is the highest port number
[23:58] <p1oooop> well, I need to fix my terminal... and I'm sure it happens...
[23:58] <enaut> xangua: I want it disabled at startup... so something like the blacklist. but as I understood the blacklist I can't activate it manually if its in there
[23:58] <p1oooop> so... IDK
[23:58] <jan247> ActionParsnip: can't get any higher than that right?
[23:59] <p1oooop> jan247:  yup
[23:59] <tenochslb> is there a way to tell brasero to burn at 4x speed? it only has 20x and other option. i need to burn a live cd at 4x
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> jan247: no as that is FFFF in hex
[23:59] <p1oooop> 15^4
[23:59] <p1oooop> hehe
[23:59] <jan247> p1oooop: I see. hehe, tnx for the info