[00:00] <NoobJay> if you newly installed Ubuntu, what is the first thing you do other than  sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get upgrade ? :)
[00:01] <cogitation1> NoobJay:  maybe install proprietary codecs...
[00:01] <k1l> NoobJay: install the programs you want to use
[00:01] <NoobJay> just wondering, because first I did is to install chrome :)
[00:02] <mikelnx> chromium > chrome
[00:02] <TJ-> NoobJay: check all the hardware is working as I expect, with optimisations as appropriate (think video drivers)
[00:02] <NoobJay> do you prefer to have chromium over chrome?
[00:02] <cogitation1> kll:  sorry to bother you directly, but can you tell me what's wrong with my question?  Getting zero replies over like 90 minutes.
[00:02] <colincolby> i have the same question
[00:03] <cogitation1> colincolby:  did I miss your response somewhere?
[00:03] <colincolby> as NoobJay
[00:03] <k1l> if chrome or chromium, its you personal decision.
[00:03] <colincolby> no, i just am too busy right now and I'm a newb myself
[00:04] <mikelnx> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-04
[00:04] <mikelnx> http://www.unixmen.com/top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-04/
[00:04] <k1l> cogitation1: sorry i dont know. maybe look into unity-tweak-tool if there is a setting for it
[00:04] <k1l> cogitation1: but iirc, there is only a icon if there is something in the drive
[00:04] <cogitation1> kll:  I originally had an icon, but now there's a dvd in the drive and no icon.  Understood if you don't know.
[00:05] <NoobJay> brb
[00:05] <k1l> cogitation1: a quick search: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198944/cd-dvd-icon-on-unity-panel-launcher
[00:06] <cogitation1> kll:  tyvm
[00:06] <k1l> cogitation1: but it doesnt seem to be the same case than your one :/
[00:08] <silvex> f
[00:08] <TJ-> cogitation1: My first question, and test, would be: regardless of the GUI, is the media readable and mountable. If not, that might explain why there is no GUI icon
[00:08] <nicekiwi> whne/if IPs are blcoked by fail2ban are those blocks added to a file somewhere?
[00:08] <cogitation1> TJ-:  thanks for response... I was looking at other window
[00:08] <cogitation1> kll:  thanks for link... was looking.  Not exactly the same, but no big deal
[00:09] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I don't know any other way to read or mount the media... that's what I'm trying to do.
[00:10] <Spider> has anyone run ubuntu on ipad?
[00:10] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I just burned an installer ISO, and I just want to make sure it burned correctly before I reboot, so I can install the OS.
[00:11] <TJ-> cogitation1: open a Terminal so you have a command-line shell, then try "blkid /dev/sr*" - if anything valid is found you'll see something like "/dev/sr0: LABEL="DELL" TYPE="iso9660""
[00:11] <nicekiwi> Spider, afaik, no.
[00:11] <Spider> thanks
[00:12] <cogitation1> result:  /dev/sr0: LABEL="Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64" TYPE="iso9660"
[00:12] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I have two drives that both work, but that's one of them.
[00:13] <nicekiwi> Spider, though this project is trying to do it. N good progress on the iPad thought: http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Status#iPad
[00:13] <cogitation1> TJ-: I'm on a live cd.
[00:13] <Spider> cool thanks for the info
[00:13] <TJ-> cogitation1: OK, so that might be the Live CD ... which suggests the other drive media can't be read
[00:14] <TJ-> cogitation1: hang on, I'm confused. Is the Live CD you're running not the version of Ubuntu you want to install?
[00:14] <cogitation1> TJ-: quite possibly.  anything I could be doing wrong with brasero, that it says it burned correctly, but didn't?
[00:14] <alan_> hola :v
[00:14] <cogitation1> TJ-: No, I'm making an ISO of Linux Mint 17.2
[00:15] <Guest48255> oc
[00:15] <TJ-> cogitation1: OK. so that report is definitely not Mint. Which does suggest the burn wasn't successful. Is the media ReWriteable?
[00:15] <cogitation1> TJ-: no, it's a DVD+R.
[00:15] <Spider> is there a good channel to learn how to use irc correctly?
[00:16] <TJ-> cogitation1: ouch, so it could have turned into a coaster then. Try ejecting the disc and re-inserting it... miracles sometimes happen :)
[00:16] <cogitation1> TJ-: Okay.
[00:16] <k1l> Spider: ask in #freenode
[00:17] <DMackey> xubuntu question, safe to ask here?
[00:17] <satellite_> dummy output, please help
[00:17] <k1l> DMackey: yes. maybe the guys in #xubuntu know better about xfce specifics
[00:17] <Spider> thanks, sorry if i was off topic.
[00:17] <BotchlaB> It's an Ubuntu flavor, official one, so probably.
[00:17] <cogitation1> TJ-:  No miracle.  Seen others, but not this time.
[00:18] <DMackey> Ok cool, xubuntu, Can't get my ethernet working BUT wifi works fine, what files must I edit to set up static IP's ?
[00:18] <DMackey> <-- Linux Noob tooo
[00:18] <satellite_> xubuntu dummy output, please help
[00:18] <DMackey> Network manager was useless, IP's didn't transfer to the ethernet adapter.
[00:19] <TJ-> cogitation1: "tail /var/log/kern.log" might indicate some I/O errors trying to read the disc, which would tend to confirm it is now a coaster
[00:19] <cogitation1> TJ-:  thanks for all your help...should I just burn again?  I only have one additional disc to burn with though
[00:19] <DMackey> Burn at the SLOWEST Speed you can, Thats how I burn all my OS discs
[00:19] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: Does your computer support USB booting?
[00:19] <TJ-> cogitation1: do you have any USB flash memory devices? That can be a safer (cheaper) route than disc burning
[00:20] <BotchlaB> ^
[00:20] <BotchlaB> DMackey: And good point, it's how I do it too.
[00:20] <cogitation1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003856/  (output of last command)
[00:21] <TJ-> cogitation1: That confirms it I'm afraid
[00:21] <cogitation1> TJ-:  well it's great to have an answer anyway. tyvm
[00:21] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  I believe so... but the only USB drive I have that's big enough, I'm not sure wher eit is.
[00:22] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: If when you find it, something like http://unetbootin.github.io/ may be of assistance.
[00:22] <cogitation1> ty
[00:22] <BotchlaB> np
[00:22] <TJ-> cogitation1: There's a rather neat way to do installs rather than burning discs or using USB... that is to create a Virtual Machine from the Live environment, set the physical hard disk as attached to the VM guest, attach the ISO installer image and run it :)
[00:23] <MoonBurst> I seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu. It won't boot from my USB, so I tried to do it from the C drive. But after booting up, it says something about serious problems, giving me an option to ignore, manually repair, or something with the s key that I can't recall what word it was at the moment.
[00:23] <cogitation1> TJ-:  wow, that sounds cool.  You feel like doing that with me for fun? :P
[00:23] <MoonBurst> While trying to dualboot
[00:24] <jamesd> do people really dualboot in this century?  i thought that is why hey created virtualization software
[00:24] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: You mean send report?
[00:24] <cogitation1> jamesd:  I'm no superuser, but I sure do...
[00:24] <MoonBurst> No, that's not it.
[00:24] <BotchlaB> Ah.
[00:24] <cogitation1> jamesd:  I'm going to be dual-booting win7 and linux mint
[00:25] <satel> no sound, please help, dummy output
[00:25] <jamesd> cogitation1: and what is the goal of doing this? the only reason linux needs to be on baremetal these days is for a game...
[00:25] <cogitation1> satel:  this may be dumb, but check to see if your sound is muted?  ubuntu mutes sound by default on first startup
[00:26] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: A word of warning if you have genuine Windows 7 and are eligible for that free upgrade to Windows 10; Windows 10 has been known to completely nuke the GRUB bootloader, and your Linux installation.
[00:26] <satel> cogitation1, no, it isn't
[00:26] <MoonBurst> But basically, the install seems to be bugged out from not booting from my USB. But for whatever reason, it won't boot from the USB drive.
[00:26] <cogitation1> jamesd:  well, in my case I was doing it for a game, actually, but even so, I wouldn't want to take the performance hit.  My computer has been oddly slow lately, even with a new install of win7
[00:26] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  there's a free upgrade to windows 10?
[00:27] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: o.0 Yeah. You didn't know? It's for everyone that has genuine Windows 7, 8 and 8.1, afaik
[00:27] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  I actually bought a full retail version of win7, after I decided to stop all stealing/torrenting period because of coming to faith
[00:27] <DrRoach> I thought it was any genuine version of Windows?
[00:27] <BotchlaB> DrRoach: Hah, no, much to the chagrin of XP and Vista users.
[00:27] <satel> xubuntu is not reading my sound card, need help
[00:28] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: Hah, I see.
[00:28] <DrRoach> Botchla: That sucks
[00:28] <BotchlaB> :)
[00:29] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  thanks for the info, seriously... I was thinking about looking into win10... but was almost certainly not going to get it because of unnecessary cost
[00:29] <MoonBurst> Can I install ubuntu via wubi from the C drive? I'm not sure if that's why it's bugging out
[00:29] <xangua> !wubi | MoonBurst
[00:29] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: If you have genuine Windows 7, and not extend the off-topic here too much, you *should* have gotten the notification by now to reserve your upgrade.
[00:29] <wileee> !wubi | MoonBurst
[00:29] <squinty> off topic@
[00:29] <MoonBurst> That might be why by installs are bugging out.
[00:30] <OerHeks> wubi is depreciated, drop it.
[00:30] <CosmicNoises> !install | MoonBurst
[00:30] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  Understood about off-topic... but I definitely never did.
[00:30] <cogitation1> Will look into it.
[00:30] <BotchlaB> Odd.
[00:30] <BotchlaB> Yeah.
[00:31] <TJ-> cogitation1: sorry, was making coffee. Using a VM is pretty straight-forward as long as the system supports VT-x extensions and they're enabled in firmware/BIOS. With that, just "apt-get install virt-manager" in the live env and then configure a VM guest
[00:32] <cogitation1> TJ-: No problem.  I was being cheeky anyway, though sometimes people like th is kind of stuff and would say sure.
[00:32] <TJ-> cogitation1: I'm not known for saying no to the hard problems :)
[00:32] <cogitation1> TJ-:  am I likely doing anything wrong with brasero that it's creating a coasters?
[00:33] <cogitation1> creating coasters?
[00:33] <TJ-> cogitation1: more likely the media and the writer aren't compatible. some combinations can be quite flakey
[00:33] <auzty> hello, how to change the timezone from uname? i already change it in /etc/timezone but the uname command still using UTC
[00:33] <BotchlaB> I can agree about that; Verbatim DVD-R's, not RW's, weren't showing up in my drive.
[00:33] <BotchlaB> But HP DVD-RW's were.
[00:33]  * BotchlaB shrugs.
[00:34] <BotchlaB> Sometimes computers seem possessed to me.
[00:34] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  I have a story that some people wouldn't believe.  Maybe not possessed, but supernatural things, sure.
[00:35] <BotchlaB> o.0
[00:35] <BotchlaB> By "possessed" I meant that as a hyperbole. :P
[00:35] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  Right after I became a believer, this happened.  Kind of hilarious, really.
[00:35] <MoonBurst> !automate
[00:35] <wileee> this is support there is a channel for chat
[00:35] <TJ-> Optical disc media have ID codes embedded in them... it's always worth checking those before burning (using suitable tools which I forget now) to ensure the media and writer are friends
[00:35] <BotchlaB> TJ-, I see.
[00:35] <bazhang> cogitation1, BotchlaB take the chat elsewhere please
[00:35] <cogitation1> bazhang:  fair enough, sorry for off-topic.
[00:36] <cogitation1> TJ-:  was that directed at me?
[00:37] <cogitation1> TJ-:  If so, I'm at the bottom of a 100-disc spindle..theyv'e always worked with these drives before, so that's not it.
[00:37] <TJ-> auzty: The time comes from the kernel's "/proc/version"
[00:38] <TJ-> cogitation1: dust, condensation, head tracking servos failing... lots of common reasons for writer failures too, unfortunately.
[00:38] <cogitation1> TJ-:  Okay... np.  I'll just use the other drive and see what happens.  Thanks for all your help.
[00:40] <TJ-> cogitation1: sounds silly... but I fixed similar issues in the past by simply blowing *hard* into the drive, either  using lung-power or a compressor... obvious what it'd do, but not obvious to think of trying it :)
[00:41] <cogitation1> TJ-:  Like a nintendo cartridge?
[00:41] <radian_> , i search in the google for 2 hours and dont find solution
[00:41] <TJ-> cogitation1: no thanks; I had one earlier :)
[00:41] <radian_> how to install flash player in ubuntu 15.04 for raspy
[00:41] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I was amazed I could fix my xbox 360's drive by opening it up and twisting a little diode
[00:43] <TJ-> cogitation1: there's some useful overview of the virtual machine approach here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[00:43] <cogitation1> TJ-:  brasero is now stuck at a "preparing to write" screen"
[00:43] <TJ-> cogitation1: in a terminal check for device errors with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[00:44] <cogitation1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003969/
[00:47] <TJ-> cogitation1: I'd be tempted to think that drive is failing
[00:47] <cogitation1> TJ-:  this is the other drive, though
[00:47] <cogitation1> TJ-: the one that I used to liveboot
[00:48] <TJ-> cogitation1: are they on the same host controller interface?
[00:48] <cogitation1> TJ-: they're both pretty old drives, but... yes, I'm pretty sure they are.
[00:48] <cogitation1> TJ-:  will look real quick
[00:49] <TJ-> cogitation1: There's something going wrong there... if you have access i'd be tempted to shutdown, disconnect and reconnect all the cables
[00:49] <TJ-> cogitation1: (for the DVD writers)
[00:49] <cogitation1> TJ-:  they're connected on like sata ports 2 and 3 of 0 through 5...there's also 1 and 2 on an entirely separate controller
[00:50] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I can do that... I don't have any spare ports though... could a failed hard drive on the other controller be related?
[00:50] <TJ-> cogitation1: For 2 drives to suddenly report I/O errors is suspicious.
[00:50] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I don't know if it's suddenly...I've had occasional problems with it for years actually.  pretty old drives... but they've both worked, up to today.
[00:50] <TJ-> cogitation1: If it has failed in a way that affects the  SATA controller, possibly. If you suspect a failed drive best to disconnect the SATA/IDE cable as a precaution whilst doing the installation work
[00:51] <cogitation1> TJ-:  what would you recommend I do as far as connecting cables?  I intended to disconnect that failed drive right after I burned this disc, actually.
[00:52] <cogitation1> TJ-:  brasero just said, when I cancelled:  the disc could not be ejected --please eject manually"
[00:52] <TJ-> cogitation1: It's worth starting again. Shutdown. Disconnect failed drive. Boot the Live env again, try reading the already-written disc (just in case), then try burning a fresh one if that isn't readable.
[00:53] <Leverquin_> how i can know does game can be played on linux? like DF?
[00:53] <TJ-> cogitation1: that really does suggest the drive <> controller link is bad right now
[00:53] <wileee> Leverquin_, the wine site has support info I think, be sure to use full words, some of us don't game.
[00:53] <cogitation1> TJ-:  is this a motherboard hardware error?  I have a lifetime warranty of this motherboard.
[00:54] <cogitation1> *on this
[00:54] <bazhang> what is df Leverquin_
[00:54] <Leverquin_> df is this http://www.twitch.tv/leverquind its dwarf fortress. i think everyone who loves programming should play it.
[00:55] <xubuntu1404> nick urist_
[00:55] <TJ-> cogitation1:  1. failed drive causing other issues 2. problems with cabling. 3. problem with media. 4. problems with BIOS/firmware configuration. 5. problem with writer application. 6. problem with kernel
[00:55] <cogitation1> Leverquin_:  would ask about it if it wasn't off-topic
[00:55] <Leverquin_> just type dwarf fortress.
[00:57] <cogitation1> TJ-:  1 is quite possible.  2 is possible though unlikely.  these cables have almost never been moved.  3:  possible bad-luck, possibly, but not incompatible media.  4:  I suspect not, because I've had the PC for like 6 years now.  5:  using default brasero...guess it's possible.  6:  if so, new in the new kernal, because previously didn't have problems.
[00:57] <radian_> hi , i tried to install flash for ubuntu 15.04 raspy. apt-get intall flashplugin-player . but not work
[00:58] <bazhang> http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Installation#Linux  Leverquin_
[00:58] <wileee> radian_, what is " ubuntu 15.04 raspy" not sure here?
[00:58] <LtL> radian_: try apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:58] <DrRoach> radian_: download flash from the website and then put the .so file in your browsers plugin folder?
[00:58] <wileee> that is the correct command
[00:58] <cogitation1> TJ-:  new info:  having extreme slowdowns copying a file to one of my drives.
[00:58] <Leverquin_> thanks bazhang
[00:58] <LtL> radian_: thats for 'vivid' 15.04
[00:58] <radian_> ubuntu mate 15.04 for raspberry pi 2
[00:58] <cogitation1> TJ-: does this suggest a sata controller problem?
[00:59] <wileee> ah cool
[00:59] <TJ-> cogitation1: I think removing that failed device is number 1 priority, and restarting clean
[00:59] <radian_> i tried to install manually but no folder in /usr/lib/mozilla
[00:59] <wileee> radian_, You might want pepperflash, should be possible
[01:00] <cogitation1> TJ-:  trying to copy the iso file somewhere before I reboot so I know where it is.
[01:00] <wileee> chrome browser has it
[01:01] <TJ-> cogitation1: SATA devices have to support hot-plugging, so you can pull the drive cable whilst the system is running :)
[01:02] <squinty> on a debian box right now so am not sure if ubuntu has it or not   might want to search for pepperflashplugin-nonfree in the repo
[01:02] <bazhang> !find pepperflash
[01:02] <cogitation1> TJ-: oh, okay
[01:02] <squinty> bazhang, ahhh... nice   didn't know about that.  thanks
[01:02] <bazhang> squinty, one easy way to check for ubuntu: /msg ubottu find package
[01:03] <squinty> bazhang, cool thanks again
[01:03] <bazhang> squinty, also /msg ubottu info package
[01:03] <bazhang> np
[01:06] <cogitation1> TJ-: Unity seems to have frozen?  pulled the defective drive, and also the drive that just started to act up
[01:06] <cogitation1> TJ-: can't access file structure now
[01:07] <TJ-> cogitation1: if you pulled the cables whilst a file-system was still mounted.... that will cause a rather severe problem !
[01:08] <cogitation1> TJ-:  lol... my dumb mistake, but that's what I thought you said to do...hot-pluggable, etc
[01:08] <cogitation1> TJ-:  it seems to have recovered, possibly
[01:09] <TJ-> cogitation1: if the file-system isn't part of the essential live OS the kernel can usually cope. It depends on what has/had hooks onto the file-system/device at the time it was disconnected.
[01:11] <cogitation1> well, I'm going to replace the drive  (WOW THAT THING IS HOT!) with another one, then reboot
[01:16] <lopx> sup anyone on?
[01:17] <colincolby> cogitation1: still waiting? can you repeat the question
[01:17] <colincolby> i have a little time now
[01:17] <cogitation1> colincolby:  no, I got a bunch of help, thanks for the offer.
[01:17] <cchildress> hi, all. i have a dell latitude e6510 with an intel i5-m540 processor. i can't seem to get the cpu to run at more than 1.2GHz
[01:18] <cchildress> it's rated up to 3.5GHz, I believe
[01:18] <cogitation1> cchildress:  does it run at faster than 1.2 Ghz when under load by a program?
[01:18] <cchildress> sorry, 2.5GHz max
[01:19] <cogitation1> cchildress:  some cpu's will clock down to save power if they're not being used.
[01:19] <cchildress> cogitation1: no, not as far as reported by /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[01:20] <cchildress> when i use cpuburn, nothing seems to crank up
[01:20] <cogitation1> chhildress:  okay, then I'm not experienced enough to help, sorry.
[01:20] <cchildress> i can run dwarf fortress, but it stays at 1.2GHz
[01:20] <cchildress> cogitation1: thank you anyway for your help
[01:20] <cogitation1> yw
[01:21] <cchildress> anyone else have an older i5 processor locked in the lowest frequency even under load?
[01:21] <cchildress> fresh install, fwiw
[01:24] <bewbz> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time. I've been browsing the internet for things to do when you first get linux/install linux. Can I basically trust any site on the front page of google for downloads/recommendations
[01:24] <bewbz> Ubuntu 15.04 btw
[01:25] <lopx> I have
[01:26] <lopx> wouldn't trust googe though :)
[01:26] <bewbz> lopx was that to me?
[01:26] <mike802> most people do normal computer stuff
[01:26] <lopx> bewbz: yes
[01:26] <bewbz> what do you mean normal computer stuff? I just command lines to install spotify and realized i hafve no idea if that was a acommand for a virus to murder my whole family's credit cards
[01:27] <TJ-> cchildress: what does this report? "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling{_available_,}*"
[01:27] <bewbz> lopx: if you don't trust google, what do you trust. i want to install some anti virus/malware software
[01:27] <DrRoach> command to install spotify? I'm sure you can't install spotify on linux can you?
[01:28] <bewbz> yessit you sre can DrRoach\
[01:28] <cchildress> TJ-: quite a few numbers (frequencies) and governors
[01:28] <urist_> yeah ubuntu has a spotify client
[01:28] <cchildress> TJ-: do you want a pastebin?
[01:28] <TJ-> cchildress: can you pastebin the output?
[01:28] <urist_> !spotify
[01:28] <cchildress> TJ-: sure hold on
[01:28] <DrRoach> Ahh sweet, never knew that, I've been using the web player this whole time..
[01:28] <urist_> i don't remember how to install it though
[01:28] <bewbz> Thats what brought my here. I googled ubuntu spotify and just threw some code in the terminal
[01:28] <urist_> to be honest though
[01:29] <urist_> the ubuntu client bugs out sometime
[01:29] <OerHeks> spotify works in chrome
[01:29] <bewbz> I ahve 15.04 and there's a spotify application.
[01:29] <TJ-> cchildress: for comparison, here's what I see with 14.04 (and kernel 4.1.0)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004180/
[01:29] <urist_> but is has has some neat features where it shows your song right on the OS
[01:29] <lopx> E: Unable to locate package spotify
[01:29] <lopx> ;p
[01:29] <urist_> and i can use my keyboard to skip songs
[01:29] <bewbz> I've had Linux/Ubuntu for like three hours now and I can't believe =people pay $100 for windows.
[01:30] <bewbz> You have to install lipscomb 5
[01:30] <urist_> welcome to linux :)
[01:30] <m0r0n> Did flash for Ubuntu get updated recently? My youtube is different.. I can't seem to watch 360 videos properly anymore
[01:30] <lopx> just have to add to repo :)
[01:30] <lopx> no it was
[01:30] <lopx> decap use htl5
[01:30] <bewbz> Can anyone recommend some virus/malware software/good sites for downloades. I always used NiNite on windows.
[01:31] <cogitation1> bewbz:  windows or linux?
[01:31] <cogitation1> bewbz:  I'
[01:31] <lopx> bewbz: idk if there is one, do use a firewall though :)
[01:31] <urist_> you don't really need an AV for linux
[01:31] <cogitation1> I've never heard of a Linux antivirus...
[01:31] <spaceburrito> bewbz: welcome. :) It doesn't get easier to believe four years down the road either. :P
[01:31] <urist_> but if you want one ClamAV i think is the popular one
[01:31] <lopx> I had some AV I forget
[01:31] <bewbz> you definitely need av (anti virus?) for linux
[01:31] <lopx> no ;p
[01:31] <spaceburrito> Clam is the only one I've heard of that's any good
[01:31] <lopx> clam yeah
[01:31] <lopx> I used clam :)
[01:32] <bewbz> my credit cards are about to saved into all my emails and browsers etc
[01:32] <urist_> AV on linux is more so you protect windows machines
[01:32] <DrRoach> m0r0n: I have noticed some youtube updates recently with regards to their web player, they might of broke it
[01:32] <urist_> rather than yourself
[01:32] <m0r0n> DrRoach, that makes sense. Not sure if it's a windows thing too
[01:32] <spaceburrito> use HTML5! Flash is... gross at best. Mozilla suggests not using it at all if you use Firefox
[01:32] <urist_> just checked you need to add a repo to get spotify on ubuntu
[01:32] <bewbz> DrRoach: That goes back to my original question: Can i trust any command line from whatever I google linux/ubuntu related in Youtube? How do i know the code i'm runningn doens't royally F me over
[01:32] <lopx> reove flash :)
[01:33] <cchildress> TJ-: sorry that took so long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004203/
[01:33] <bewbz> not youtube - Google. i(too much to drink.)
[01:33] <urist_> bewbz: don't trust everything, but for the most part you can
[01:33] <urist_> bewbz: if in dowbt look up what the command does
[01:33] <squinty> bewbz,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[01:34] <bewbz> urist: thankl you. you're right. I just do a little due diligience here and there,.
[01:34] <DrRoach> m0r0n: Yeah same, may switch over to my windows partition later but more than likely will just ask a friend if they see the same
[01:34] <lopx> idk I might install win10
[01:34] <cchildress> TJ-: it looks like maybe my maximum frequency is set to 1199000
[01:34] <urist_> bewbz: I've been a linux noob for the past 6 years and never had a bad experience with a command i found online
[01:34] <bewbz> squinty: lol
[01:35] <m0r0n> Yeah I'll have to ask.  As long as you steer clear of "rm -rf /" you should be pretty much fine
[01:35] <cogitation1> bewbz:  1 year and the same... no bad experiences.
[01:35] <bewbz> thanks. I'll keep an eye out.
[01:35] <jamesd> urist_: no one has given you a nice fork bomb?  :(){ :|:& }; :
[01:36] <urist_> jamesd: hasn't happened yet :P
[01:36] <DrRoach> http://explainshell.com/ A really good website to see what a command will do
[01:36] <bewbz> nice! thank you DrRoach
[01:36] <lopx> one problem I have with ubuntu is that it has stuff I don't ever need and it feels blaoted, tips? I don't want to reinstall (drunk)
[01:36] <TJ-> cchildress: what PC is it? I'm wondering if a notebook/laptop with power saving in operation
[01:37] <DrRoach> I've never had a bad experience with Linux in over 3 years
[01:37] <jackcom> where i must write content of ‘syntax on’, ‘set number’
[01:37] <DrRoach> bewbz: No problem!
[01:38] <lopx> bewbz: did you repartition your drive for linux :P?
[01:38] <cogitation1> TJ-:  finished swapping all drives out.. going to reboot now.  thanks again.  Keep up the good work
[01:38] <lopx> bewbz: first time I installed, I forgot and it efed up my drive. Good times.
[01:38] <TJ-> cogitation1: good luck :)
[01:38] <cchildress> TJ-: a possible cause: i have the wrong power adapter. i need the 90W version, and i have the 65W version. i think the cpu is throttling as a result. is that possible?
[01:38] <JayBau> I guess I will stay in this channel for a while :)
[01:38] <TJ-> cchildress: OK, I scrolled back! Lattitude e6510 :)
[01:38] <cchildress> yup :)
[01:39] <Ponyboy902> Would the windows boot manager option in UEFI get removed upon install of Ubuntu?
[01:39] <TJ-> cchildress: I've never checked if that happens; my Dell's do the same thing though with the boot-time warning of the wrong adapter
[01:39] <TJ-> cchildress: actually that wouldn't make sense else it'd almost imply it locks the frequency when running only on battery.... have you tried that?
[01:40] <bewbz> lopx: I'm googling repartition
[01:40] <Ponyboy902> Also would removing Ubuntu's partitions remove the GRUB option in UEFI boot as soon as i hit delete on the partition or would i have to go in manually and remove?
[01:40] <cchildress> TJ-: well, is there a way in software to raise the reported maximum frequency of reallyslowMHz?
[01:40] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Not if you install Ubuntu using the Dual Boot option
[01:40] <cchildress> TJ-: the battery is mostly dead, but let me see
[01:41] <TJ-> cchildress: There is/used to be a package laptop-mode-tools which might be controlling the freq
[01:41] <cchildress> TJ-: no, it seems to be identical on battery
[01:41] <bewbz> lopz: i did not partition. I got rid of windows 7 altogether. it wasn't genuine and i was fed up with all the remindres to buy a real version
[01:41] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach would it remove gRUb then if i remove ubuntu's partitions or would i have to manually remove the option in UEFI
[01:42] <cchildress> TJ-: that package is still around in 15.x
[01:42] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: I don't believe so, pretty sure you'll have to remove the Ubuntu partition and edit the Windows one to take up your whole hard drive
[01:42] <lopx> bewbz: ah, I think you're ok
[01:42] <andschwa> I need to emulate `login -f root` in a script, followed by a command
[01:42] <bewbz>                    i thnk so too
[01:42] <TJ-> cchildress:  but not installed by default I don't think, so unless it is installed we can ignore it
[01:43] <andschwa> I'm using Ubuntu in a container and need /run/utmp populated so that `getlogin()` returns the user's name, not null
[01:43] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach so Windows install disc, and startup recovery and repair mbr or Reset windows and let it repartition the drives?
[01:43] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: That may not be 100% correct though, I am very confident in what I just said though
[01:43] <cchildress> TJ-: it is best not to have it, then?
[01:43] <andschwa> Since containers don't tend to use init, /run/utmp is left empty
[01:43] <TJ-> cchildress: take a look at the scripts in "/usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/"
[01:44] <andschwa> `login -f root` will populate it, but I need to follow it up with arbitrary commands (and an exit)
[01:44] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Is your current Windows install corrupt or broken? Or do you just want to delete Ubuntu?
[01:44] <andschwa> any ideas?
[01:44] <Ponyboy902> I'm really wanting to intsall ubuntu but that main reason has me scared :P
[01:44] <cchildress> TJ-: i'm there
[01:45] <Ponyboy902> I had upgraded to windows 10 and guess what? It broke a lot of things.. I had to revert to windows 8 3 days ago
[01:45] <Ponyboy902> via recovery drive
[01:45] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Haha I know it can be scary but you'll definitely be safe if you select the "Dual boot" option, I believe it is, I'll check now
[01:45] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach so do install alongside windows boot manager?
[01:46] <Ponyboy902> it looks like it was selected by default in the installer
[01:46] <cchildress> TJ-: i had problems with cpu frequency scaling in my other laptop running 15.04, as well. it was running an older amd cpu though so i thought maybe that made a difference.
[01:46] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup" That is the option you need
[01:46] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Yeah that's what I have
[01:46] <columbobaas> Androirc
[01:46] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Never had a problem
[01:47] <TJ-> cchildress: I've grepped for any indication of freq control scripts - nothing. I also can't find any mention of installed packages that affect the freq. I can't image why the CPU would be limited unless some tool is choosing to do it
[01:47] <TJ-> cchildress: really? Let's see if there are any known bugs about that
[01:47] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach would anyone here be able to help me remove GRUB in the UEFI if i ever decided to remove ubuntu?
[01:47] <cchildress> TJ-: i agree - but the only way for me to tell, is to try another distro (maybe a live cd), or try windows
[01:48] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: You can just delete the partition that the GRUB loader is saved onto
[01:48] <squinty> Ponyboy902,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:48] <Ponyboy902> Drroach did you get my msg?
[01:49] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Yeah
[01:50] <columbobaas> Is it okay to compile the latest kernel?
[01:50] <andschwa> columbobaas: sure, why not? I usually build of linux-next
[01:51] <columbobaas> Maybe losing stability
[01:52] <TJ-> cchildress: is this after resuming from suspend (sleep) ?
[01:52] <andschwa> columbobaas: I mean, everything has a level of stability, I'd say that linux-next is like a reallllly solid beta
[01:52] <andschwa> columbobaas: and if you do encounter a bug, well then, you've done some good Linux!
[01:52] <cchildress> TJ-: the more i research it, the more i think it may be something in the bios detecting an under-powered supply and limiting my clock multiplier
[01:53] <TJ-> cchildress: this suggests a solution, check it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296653/ubuntu-13-04-cpu-frequency-scaling-stuck-on-lowest-frequency
[01:53] <columbobaas> I've installed my linux distros more than 200 times i think
[01:53] <cchildress> TJ-: thanks, i'll try that
[01:54] <columbobaas> Mostly black screen after kernel compile
[01:54] <columbobaas> Cannot load x
[01:56] <TJ-> !mainline | columbobaas
[01:57] <JayBau> is anyone familiar with this error
[01:57] <JayBau> (gedit:2820): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[01:57] <JayBau> this happen when I do gedit /path/to/file
[01:58] <JayBau> and when I saved the file, another one will be created like filename~
[01:59] <internetwork_exp> hello
[02:00] <ruzekle> Is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[02:00] <spaceburrito> That seems like a loaded question. O.o
[02:01] <lopx> ruzekle: wouldn't is x better than y ;/ have to see for yourself
[02:01] <spaceburrito> I suppose it would depend on which criteria you're evaluating it on, though.
[02:01] <columbobaas> For desktop it is, Debian ->server
[02:01] <ruzekle> I've been trying to decide that for myself all day. I like Debian stable because the experience seems better than Ubuntu LTS.
[02:01] <spaceburrito> They're both pretty great, imo. I use Ubuntu on my laptops and Debian on my desktops.
[02:02] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83026/prevent-gedit-from-creating-files-with-the-tilde-suffix # take a look at this
[02:02] <columbobaas> Debian is more control by yourself
[02:02] <Guest32873> ruzekle: I don't think one is better than the other, just different.  One distro may suit my needs better than the other, that's all.
[02:03] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: thanks, I will read up
[02:03] <al2o3-cr> that's link is to just stop gedit creating the backup file though
[02:03] <columbobaas> Hmm distros like deepin or bodhi are really "bad"
[02:04] <ruzekle> I've tried Deepin and didn't like it. I can't pick between Debian or Ubuntu.
[02:04] <columbobaas> Deepin is okay the first hour.
[02:05] <ruzekle> When I tried Deepin it's software center did not support English, and they had advertisements. Very strange experience.
[02:05] <artois> deepin what?
[02:05] <artois> ...side ${"actress"}?
[02:05] <Guest32873> columbobaas: Well, yea, some are cobbled together and well organized, but the mainstream ones like Ubuntu and Debian are very  well put together and organized.  But this is off topic here.
[02:06] <ruzekle> artois: http://www.deepin.org/
[02:06] <artois> distro for people with expensive hardware?
[02:06] <columbobaas> It is Ubuntu based haha
[02:06] <artois> haha...
[02:07] <ruzekle> Doesn't that break trade mark or copyright?
[02:07] <squinty> !deepin
[02:07] <spaceburrito> ruzekle: what do you mean?
[02:08] <squinty> it means it is off topic  #ubuntu-offtopic  for non support chats
[02:08] <ruzekle> kk I'll move there, squinty.
[02:09] <internetwork_exp> hey I'm pretty much a novice to Ubuntu... I have a question concerning editing  iwlwifi.conf
[02:09] <JayBau> supressing gtk warning seems to be complicated :)
[02:09] <ki7rw> well, if adobe isn't providing the latest flash player for linux then what is one to do?
[02:09] <internetwork_exp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616119/unstable-wireless-with-intel-7260-iwlwifi-after-upgrade-to-15-04
[02:09] <spaceburrito> ki7rw: gnash, perhaps?
[02:09] <TJ-> JayBau: did you see that error when running gedit as root user?
[02:09] <internetwork_exp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616119/unstable-wireless-with-intel-7260-iwlwifi-after-upgrade-to-15-04
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> Turn OFF 802.11n mode (in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1)
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> Turn ON link aggregation (in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8)
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> Turn OFF watchdog (in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf add options iwlwifi wd_disable=1)
[02:10] <ki7rw> i've heard that there's a move to html5 which is suppose to replace flash but it seems that there are still websites requiring flash
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> I'm not sure on what syntax I need to use to add these options
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> just simply enter a new line
[02:11] <internetwork_exp> and type "options iwlwifi11n... etc..." for each option?
[02:11] <TJ-> internetwork_exp: add each option as a new line in the form "options <module-name> option1=value1[,option2=value2]"
[02:11] <CreativeWolf> heya all :)
[02:11] <CreativeWolf> My user account on my boxlet is cw and by default the mail has been created as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- How do I change cw to something else please?
[02:12] <internetwork_exp> Thanks TJ, will do it now...
[02:12] <TJ-> internetwork_exp: note that "11n_disable=1" and "11n_disable=8" are mutually exclusive... you would need to combine the values to use both as in "11n_disable=9"
[02:13] <JayBau> do you guys can access my machine: http://desktop.bauson.com/
[02:13] <JayBau> I just tried to forward my port 80
[02:14] <JayBau> probably open port 22 too for ssh, so I could access it on my phone
[02:15] <JayBau> need to head of now
[02:15] <JayBau> ttyl
[02:18] <lopx> tryng to debload ubuntu :(
[02:18] <lopx> debloaT*
[02:19] <somsip> !minimal | lopx
[02:19] <lopx> yeah... that's the problem and my last resort :)
[02:19] <somsip> lopx: I'd suggest making it the first resort
[02:20] <lopx> going to have to flip the coin then :)
[02:21] <lopx> in any case gtg, see you
[02:23] <M1ST1C> Do you guys have a rizon channel? I don't like having my IP address made public because somebody crashed my  router
[02:23] <Ponyboy902> You know what.. Secret windows.. I'm switching altogether.. I can use wine to run Roblox..
[02:23] <Ponyboy902> *Secrew windows
[02:23] <somsip> !cloak | M1ST1C
[02:23] <M1ST1C> thanks
[02:25] <colincolby> I have a working PPTP server after having used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer but Deluge, my bittorrent client, is showing ports are not being forwarded.  Since this pptpd is for only one login at a time, is there a way to set it as DMZ?
[02:26] <Ponyboy902> Apparantly Microsoft knows not what best for my PC but the ubuntu community probably does :P
[02:28] <colincolby> or, don't ports get forwarded by UPnP? can i enable that?
[02:28] <M1ST1C> I just figured out my problem. I had to mess around with the partition. now I have more memory
[02:32] <M1ST1C> It says in the forums that ubuntu 12.04 32bit version supports the dell inspiron 1011.
[02:35] <wileee> more swap heh, but their gone
[02:35] <Guest17679> hi
[02:36] <satellite_> aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[02:36] <rob_01> hi
[02:36] <Guest17679> anybody help me to using reaver
[02:41] <wileee> Guest17679, reaver? let us know the issues for help.
[02:41] <JayBau> ping me
[02:42] <s9iper1> i have installed windows and  lost my grub how can i get it back with 14.4.2 64 bit ?
[02:42] <wileee> !grubfix
[02:42] <wileee> !grub
[02:42] <artois> repair?
[02:43] <wileee> s9iper1, ^^^
[02:43] <s9iper1> thanks :)
[02:43] <wileee> np ;)
[02:44] <Blaster> I'm having trouble adding an entry to my fstab file for auto mounting my virtualbox share on my guest. It boots into emergency mode unless I comment it out. How could I determine the issue?
[02:45] <Blaster> Here is the problematic fstab file, and the entry at the bottom is the one casting me into emergency land...http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004440/
[02:47] <wileee> Blaster, Nver heard of this myself, you have any links on doing this?
[02:47] <Blaster> wileee: What do you mean, "links on doing this"?
[02:47] <wileee> Blaster, What makes you think this will work? is the question
[02:48] <wileee> if it is possible, then I would like to know personaly
[02:48] <Blaster> Well, I type "sudo mount -t vboxsf -o gid=redstar -o uid=redstar books ~/proj/books" to do it manually, so I figured I could use fstab to mount it on boot.
[02:49] <h1m31> hm
[02:49] <h1m31> 4ntr4X are u here...?
[02:49] <Blaster> http://askubuntu.com/questions/365346/virtualbox-shared-folder-mount-from-fstab-fails-works-once-bootup-is-complete
[02:50] <wileee> Blaster, shared folder or the vm file?
[02:50] <Blaster> Shared directory between host and guest, and I'm trying to mount it on boot from the guest which is Ubuntu.
[02:52] <wileee> Blaster, It is in your running host right a folder?
[02:52] <Blaster> Solution at above link worked for me.
[02:52] <Blaster> Correct.
[02:53] <wileee> Blaster, YOu have it fixed, great.
[02:54] <Blaster> wileee: Yep. Thanks!
[02:59] <Ponyboy902> Poll: should I install Ubuntu tonight or think about it for a few days?
[02:59] <Ezequiel> Hola :D
[02:59] <wileee> !polls
[02:59] <Ezequiel> Spanish
[02:59] <wileee> !poll
[02:59] <wileee> Ponyboy902, no polling
[03:00] <Ponyboy902> wilee its against the rules? :(
[03:00] <Ponyboy902> Do i need to disable fast startup on windows in order to use Ubuntu?
[03:00] <Guest14779> wmaker?
[03:00] <wileee> Ponyboy902, Yeah, if we allowed it we would never really help anyone.
[03:01] <wileee> !uefi | Ponyboy902 this will help
[03:01] <Ponyboy902> wileee so that is a yes disable fast startup?
[03:02] <wileee> Ponyboy902, No iot's read the wiki on this.
[03:02] <wileee> it's
[03:04] <wileee> Ponyboy902, There is great uefi help here, but the manuals seem key for the helper and user in this area.
[03:15] <SKANZ> can anyone help me with a problem?
[03:17] <Bashing-om> SKANZ: Not without the details .
[03:18] <SKANZ> Well , im trying to revert my OS back from Ubuntu to windows 7 but everytime i try to use the usb boot tool with my torrented ISO file (Windows Boot File) it doesnt register in the program.
[03:19] <wileee> SKANZ, You need ##windows
[03:19] <wafflejock> SKANZ, http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-windows-iso-to-a-usb-device
[03:20] <wafflejock> yeah beyond that it's probably windows question really
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[03:24] <JockRich> !ops squinty
[03:39] <tony_> hello
[04:03] <wripimp> man barcode
[04:03] <wripimp> does anyone on use barcode package ?
[04:05] <OneMatt> Wow, it is amazing how much like windows lubuntu feels, but in a good way.
[04:05] <wripimp> ya till ya try search
[04:06] <OneMatt> Oh?
[04:07] <OneMatt> I don't see anything wrong with the search.
[04:07] <wripimp> yes remove the online search in unity and its wonderful
[04:07] <OneMatt> Oh, lubuntu doesn't use unity.
[04:07] <OneMatt> It uses lxde.
[04:08] <OneMatt> So it is just like a classic windows search.
[04:08] <wripimp> true me to | but most run out-box-special
[04:09] <OneMatt> Anyway, this box needs it's software to be fairly stripped down.
[04:09] <OneMatt> It is a 2002 model, and not a very amazing one at that.
[04:10] <OneMatt> And it is currently housed out of a cardboard box.
[04:10] <wripimp> lol sounds like my server
[04:10] <wripimp> lxde --no-reccomend-install
[04:10] <edgardoweb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlLHc60egiQ&feature=youtu.be
[04:11] <OneMatt> Um, I don't think that that link is SFW.
[04:12] <OneMatt> Judging by the google results with safe search off, anyway...
[04:12] <wripimp> lol
[04:12] <OneMatt> Yes, safe search off.
[04:13] <OneMatt> Great way of turning harmless searches into "Oh my god, I had no idea this kind of thing existed, and I wish I still didn't know...".
[04:14] <wripimp> yep welcome to window$ vi$ta
[04:14] <OneMatt> Please don't remind me of that thing.
[04:15] <wripimp> sry | i got 5 here tring to setup a biz pos with it around & barcode printer
[04:18] <pony9909> What would be advantages of dual booting Ubuntu with windows 8
[04:18] <pony9909> and what are the advantages of using Ubuntu in general if you can do mostly the same stuff on windows?
[04:18] <wripimp> recovering for windows updates
[04:19] <OneMatt> Um, in under 3 minutes, how do you get a bat out of the house?
[04:19] <wileee> pony9909, No polling, huge unanswerable question anyway.
[04:19] <pony9909> Its not Polling!
[04:20] <pony9909> or at least i didn't mean it to be
[04:20] <wileee> pony9909, It is within the channel guidelines
[04:20] <mate_> linux is easier
[04:20] <wripimp> It really depends on what you wanting to accomplish? Play or Productivity
[04:20] <pony9909> mate_ is it faster with games like club penguin, adventure quest, cat mario, etc.?
[04:21] <wileee> that answer should be a red flag honestly
[04:21] <wripimp> really
[04:21] <pony9909> I don't want an OS for office.
[04:21] <pony9909> I want something for games
[04:21] <wripimp> pony9909 search man wine
[04:21] <wileee> pony9909, Load a virtual and try it out, decide for yourself.
[04:21] <mate_> yes if not using firefox 36-39 in linux draw back
[04:22] <pony9909> wileee if i install it on my hdd would it hurt anything to remove Ubuntu the next day if i don't like it?
[04:22] <wileee> mate_, YOU are not even close to helping
[04:22] <pony9909> I have a windows factory recovery disk that has automatic repairs scan on it
[04:22] <pony9909> Ugh..
[04:23] <mate_> if u using chruium in linux yes
[04:23] <pony9909> Windows update is trying to install windows 10 again!! :|
[04:23] <mate_> game yes
[04:23] <wileee> pony9909, No as long as you know what you're doing, a W8 dualboot is not a sure beginners install or remove
[04:23] <wripimp> pony9909, I would reccomend you try VirtualBox and test sounds like you might not what to move away from mr.gates point & click
[04:23] <pony9909> My computer don't have intel virtualization support thing though :(
[04:23] <wripimp> dont need it
[04:24] <pony9909> Wileee you guys would help me remove Ubuntu if needed in a few days right?
[04:24] <wripimp> x86 ftw
[04:24] <wileee> mate_, Probably does just needs it turned on
[04:24] <wripimp> read gnu gpl please
[04:25] <wileee> pony9909, Just remember this is free volunteer help, best achieved by having good details.
[04:25] <wripimp> +exp for reading Doc's
[04:25] <wileee> pony9909,  Probably does have vm support,just needs it turned on
[04:26] <pony9909> wileee no it don't have vm support lol.. Intel site say the pentium b960 don't have it at all
[04:26] <wileee> pony9909, If you think your just may remove try a live disk or usb
[04:26] <pony9909> I tried live usb and i loved it.
[04:27] <wileee> pony9909, This a manufacturer W8 or your install?
[04:27] <pony9909> I loved the software center, how wallpapers i use looks, how the default theme looks, and how it makes everything else looks, and how there is a actual start menu
[04:27] <pony9909> wileee Acer/Gateway shipped this laptop with Windows 8.0
[04:28] <wileee> I use start8 in W10 for a menu
[04:29] <wileee> pony9909, Ah, I asked as with W8 there is a different partitioning and table setup, a little more difficult for some, but there are wiki's and help here and the forums.
[04:30] <mate_> i use chim mint 17.1 i wont go back w8
[04:31] <wileee> mate_, Then why are you here just giving garbage support and mindless comments?
[04:31] <mate_> i
[04:31] <mate_> use rasp
[04:32] <AndroidHacker> would any problems arise by installing MATE inside of xubuntu.. im assuming i could install any desktop env without problem but just double checking
[04:33] <mate_> i use raspberry pi in unbuntu mate 15.04
[04:33] <wileee> AndroidHacker, Pretty much any of the ubuntu de yeah, and many more really
[04:33] <AndroidHacker> so it should be ok?
[04:33] <desmond> can't think of anything that could go wrong, AndroidHacker
[04:33] <wileee> AndroidHacker, Yes
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> ok thanks guys
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> just checking
[04:34] <wileee> AndroidHacker, Probably a good sized download, is all, different base
[04:34] <wileee> de base
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> yea no problemo there
[04:34] <wileee> cool, carry on. ;)
[04:35] <AndroidHacker> ty
[04:35] <wileee> np
[04:35] <mate_> 1.1 g drown done total 3g
[04:36] <wileee> AndroidHacker, I just noticed you said inside, it is a separate desktop, I think you meant that.
[04:36] <wileee> however they may share apps
[04:37] <mate_> no
[04:38] <desmond> mate installed "inside" the system of xubuntu sounds correct to me
[04:39] <wileee> desmond, Only in a vm, you can't install these desktops inside each other.
[04:40] <mate_> i put mate in rasp pi
[04:40] <wileee> xubuntu de on a mate install, yes, any desktop on any install is athe same
[04:40] <desmond> thought xubuntu was the system and XFCE was the DE
[04:41] <wileee> desmond, nothing to do with mate, but yes xfce is xubuntus bas
[04:41] <wileee> base
[04:42] <wileee> lxde=lubuntu mate is a fork of gnome 2
[04:42] <wileee> it is confusing at first, a lot to know and learn. ;)
[04:46] <DalekSec> Well, it'd be different default configuration and set of applications as well, but yes those are the DEs used.
[04:48] <CreativeWolf> heya all
[04:48] <CreativeWolf> My user account on my boxlet is cw and by default the mail has been created as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- How do I change cw to something else please?
[04:49] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, what's a boxlet?
[04:49] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, typically you can just use the users panel I believe if you can't find it I'm sure I can dig up the usermod command for it
[04:50] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, linux box
[04:50] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, also what's CW try to keep the acryonms to a minimum
[04:50] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, cw is my username in the server
[04:51] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, ah gotcha my bad I just read that sentence weird
[04:51] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, http://askubuntu.com/questions/170244/usermod-change-the-username that covers doing it at the command line if you're using ubuntu server
[04:51] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, I created a user account cw and I've got exim installed. My email now is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>which I'd like to be<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:52] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, otherwise in a desktop install you can use the GUI Users app I think (I believe there's one by default)
[04:52] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, I'd like to retain my username as "cw" but would want<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as my email associated for this account.
[04:52] <wafflejock> hmm k I've configured postfix before but never exim
[04:52] <wafflejock> !exim
[04:53] <Prueba> hola
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !es | Prueba
[04:54] <Prueba> gracias
[04:56] <xdb3916> hi
[04:56] <xdb3916> hi everyone
[04:57] <wileee> hi
[04:58] <xdb3916> woow, got someone to talk
[04:59] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, yeah sorry don't know any details on that, think I've used exim here or there to send out some e-mails via gmail, and typically you can just change the from headers on an e-mail but some servers will send those to spam, it helps if you configure SPF and DKIM for the mail server some details here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2782380/best-practices-sending-email-on-behalf-of-users
[04:59] <sinaloko> i have problems with cheese n xubuntu 15.04 i cant take a photo its seems only black color the video its good but the photo nope
[04:59] <cfhowlett> xdb3916, this isn't  social chitchat channel.  state your ubuntu problem or assist someone else with a problem.  otherwise : #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better channel for your
[05:00] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, the on behalf of thing might not be a problem since it's all going to be coming from the same domain that's more if you have one mail server sending stuff for some other domain I believe
[05:01] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, Yes one mail server multiple domains
[05:01] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, yeah would definitely recommend reading up on SPF and DKIM then to help you avoid getting dumped into the SPAM on gmail and other servers
[05:02] <xdb3916> 3ks
[05:02] <mate_> any one talk about computers base on computers
[05:02] <cfhowlett> sinaloko, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:02] <sinaloko> i need help please =)
[05:03] <mate_> who here
[05:03] <sinaloko> e
[05:03] <BuzzardBuzz> press the any key for help
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !ot | mate_
[05:04] <sinaloko> ??
[05:04] <squinty> !details | sinaloko
[05:04] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 <-- I actually had this link saved that may be useful for Exim and I generally used this guide for postfix but it took some fiddling around I couldn't just follow it straight through, still useful to learn to debug some of the things http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-secure-auth
[05:05] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, Thanks, will take a look :)
[05:07] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, yeah good luck, for me that was definitely a marathon but I am happy to have an e-mail server that is pretty secure and spam-assasin works well and can do all the kind of forwarding or catch all stuff you want pretty easily once it's all in place
[05:08] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, Thanks much :)
[05:11] <llLogic> 1 not fully installed or removed. How do I remove a package from failing to install after everything else im installing?
[05:11] <llLogic> everytime I install something it tries to install a failed package from a week ago
[05:12] <joral> I don't know if this is a system issue or network issue (I have had numerous performance issues since my new att modem) but everytime I try to run apt-get update it will hang and I have to ctl-c and re-run it.  It will always run the second time but not the first.
[05:12] <joral> llLogic: "apt-get -f install"
[05:13] <mate_> goto reposisory redo it
[05:13] <badbodh> !guidelines
[05:13] <badbodh> !guidelines | badbodh
[05:14] <mate_> in unbuntu and mint re do it
[05:14] <llLogic> joral, I dont think that worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004904/
[05:15] <mate_> if goto command do update is not good
[05:16] <DalekSec> mate_: Please stop randomly saying stuff.
[05:16] <joral> llLogic: is this relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/g15daemon/+bug/617101
[05:17] <joral> ubottu: great minds think alike?
[05:17] <joral> sorry I love the bot logic lol
[05:17] <wileee> llLogic, The "broken install is from the ubutu repos or your install from the web, it is in the repos.
[05:18] <llLogic> from my reading it would have never worked reguardless because g15stats has no support for g13 even though they have the same screen
[05:18] <llLogic> so I just need to remove it
[05:18] <llLogic> but I cant figure out how
[05:19] <joral> llLogic: should simply use 'apt-get remove <package_name>'
[05:19] <wileee> not if broken, and removing relys on how it was installed
[05:20] <mate_> sudo or root apt-get
[05:21] <llLogic> wow that simple, thank you. Im a convert from windows.. I needed simple help. thank you joral
[05:21] <squinty> sudo dpkg --configure -a    maybe if download was from repo's
[05:21] <cfhowlett> mate_, that's false misinformtion.  There is NO reason to run root!  stop giving bad advice
[05:21] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | mate_
[05:22] <joral> wileee: touche, wasn't thinking about broken packages/dependencies during removal.  thank you for correcting me
[05:22] <wileee> joral, Heh, if it is really gone that was lucky, ;)
[05:22] <mate_> yes i im i know in mint
[05:22] <cfhowlett> !mint | mate_, mint is not supported here.  sorry.
[05:23] <cfhowlett> mate_, and if you KNOW your info is bad, don't give it!
[05:23] <joral> wileee: I do have to say apt/dpkg has gotten a lot "smarter" over the last few years.  I believe my first run in with ubuntu was ~6.x and it wasn't always as fault tolerant as it is today
[05:24] <mate_> mints almost all unbuntu
[05:24] <cfhowlett> mate_, mint is not ubuntu.  mint is not supported here.  at all.
[05:24] <wileee> joral, MY guess from the error it was not built although showing broken, the cache saw it as broken, an update probably would of mattered, just guessing though.
[05:25] <joral> mate_: no, its actually its own distro. just as the sift workstation install that I am running is not ubuntu.
[05:25] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mate_ these are the ONLY ubuntus supported here.   NOTE:  mint is not on the list.
[05:26] <mate_> my rasp is unbuntu 15.04 mate that deferate some
[05:27] <joral> wileee: good call, the paste bin he posted showed 6 not updated.  possibly time for a dist-upgrade?
[05:27] <wileee> probably
[05:28] <wileee>  might be kernels..etc, had a few updates lately
[05:28] <joral> llLogic: that might be something to consider
[05:28] <llLogic> oh i already did, thank you
[05:28] <joral> wileee: a few, this last week was rediculous lol
[05:29] <wileee> yeah, I think the first in trusty had issues I had the 4.2 running so never noticed.
[05:30] <joral> wileee: the SIFT install defaulted to stable (which surprised me given the customization from SANS) so I just left it as stable.  like three different kernels in as many days lol
[05:30] <wileee> cool gotta go to work, later
[05:30] <joral> later
[05:31] <llLogic> i did a apt-get update and apt-get dist-update and I still have a "1 not upgraded" message. what could it be?
[05:32] <llLogic> never mind, i need to read. found it
[05:32] <joral> llLogic: did it say one was held back? do you know which packag..... nvm, then lol
[05:32] <Waddup> llLogic you should paste results and command used so we can help you further
[05:32] <llLogic> libgbm1 , launchpad?
[05:32] <llLogic> it was held back
[05:33] <nimbiotics> hI. I have an Ubuntu 143.04LTS VBox I've been using for a while noe. A while ago I accessedd it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then hows the login screen again. I can stillaccess my VBox via ssh with Putty, bit I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to...
[05:33] <nimbiotics> ...fix this? TIA!
[05:34] <llLogic> deb https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/14.04/main trusty main
[05:34] <llLogic> oops
[05:35] <joral> llLogic: you cant add the repo to iirc lol
[05:35] <llLogic> how do I add a repository for ubuntu?
[05:35] <llLogic> yeah lol
[05:35] <llLogic> yeah some guy had the same issue but with elementary os
[05:35] <llLogic> https://www.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/344g2j/the_following_packages_have_been_kept_back_libgbm1/
[05:39] <mate_> hamradio do u have d-rats
[05:40] <joral> llLogic: what ubuntu version are you running?
[05:42] <llLogic> 14.04 trusty
[05:43] <squinty> mate_,  http://www.d-rats.com/component/content/article/31-d-rats-apt-repository/   ppa for it.... usual caveats and use at your own discretion
[05:44] <mate_> i use unbuntu
[05:44] <squinty> mate_,  ppa repo's are for ubuntu
[05:45] <mate_> dont need to use ppa rasp
[05:46] <aurorauser> so when I run df -h
[05:46] <aurorauser> it says Size is 912GB and used is 758GB
[05:46] <aurorauser> but it says Available is 108GB
[05:46] <squinty> mate_,  ok obviously if you want help then either mature up and detail your problem or get ignored.
[05:46] <aurorauser> its not accounting for 50GB and idk what to do
[05:47] <aurorauser> I've tried rebooting and running fsck
[05:47] <aurorauser> to no avail
[05:47] <mate_> i type sudo apt-get i what i want no ppa
[05:47] <aurorauser> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12004977/
[05:48] <squinty> mate_,  you can use apt-get with ppa
[05:49] <Euryale> hi, I'm having trouble with setting up vsftpd. I just installed vsftpd but for some reason 'service --status-all' doesn't show a 'vsftpd' service. I don't know what's wrong. Why doesn't it show and why can't I start it?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !ppa | mate_
[05:51] <mate_> im using unbuntu 15.04 mate i dont need ppas
[05:51] <BlackDalek> Is it possible to have more than one computer on my wireless LAN connected to soulseek using nicotine+ client?
[05:53] <squinty> mate_,  so what exactly is your question?
[05:53] <mate_> in deb maybe vbox wireshark  no
[05:54] <cfhowlett> huh?
[05:54] <mate_> i here to learn
[05:54] <squinty> like talking to a brick wall
[05:55] <squinty> mate_,  ok will leave you to your efforts then
[05:55] <cfhowlett> mate_, then STOP giving bad advice.
[05:57] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, perhaps ask ##networking??
[06:00] <mate__> test001
[06:07] <xmj> morning
[06:07] <xmj> checkinstall question : is there a way I ca make checkinstall use `make -j <jobsnumber>` arguments?
[06:07] <xmj> aka, have it build the thing i want to build on multiple cores
[06:12] <slicepaperwords> does a raspberry pi play 1080? i would rather buy one of them than using a comp to play my videos and music through my tv
[06:12] <somsip> slicepaperwords: yes, more discussion in #rasbpi (or #raspi)
[06:13] <somsip> er...#rasbpi
[06:13] <slicepaperwords> somsip: ahh thanks
[06:13] <mate_> \
[06:15] <mate__> hey,everybody
[06:15] <mate__> I am a newer
[06:16] <mate_> that one problems no sounds card in rasp
[06:16] <xmj> ahdmi?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> mate_,  >>> #raspi
[06:17] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[06:18] <Starcraftmazter> how would i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04?
[06:18] <Starcraftmazter> ubuntu server 12.04
[06:18] <Starcraftmazter> is it possible to upgrade several versions at once?
[06:18] <somsip> Starcraftmazter: no. Upgrade to what?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> Starcraftmazter, NO NEED.  you can go from LTS to LTS 12.04 > 14.04
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !lts | Starcraftmazter
[06:20] <mate_> dont like rasp pi now one 1gig now hi
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !server | Starcraftmazter, note: there is a server channel
[06:22] <hrg> hi
[06:23] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox I've been using for a while now. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix...
[06:23] <nimbiotics> ...this? TIA!
[06:26] <mate_> there two vboxes there new one and old one the olds one
[06:27] <mate_> the old one works
[06:28] <mate_> will any kno
[06:31] <Starcraftmazter> ty
[06:36] <Gerowen> Thinking of doing an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 on my laptop.  Backing up all my files to prepare for a clean install.  Anybody running 15.04 right now?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Gerowen, millions.  focus your question on actual issues.
[06:37] <Gerowen> cfhowlett: Well I was just looking to chat in general, you don't have to get snarky.
[06:39] <mate_> the people is rude
[06:41] <mate_> i put 15.04 mate on one of computers
[06:45] <wileee> the people is stupid^^
[06:45] <wileee> mate_, that is
[06:45] <mate_> if u put 15.04 over w8 easy install
[06:46] <mate_> if u put over unbuntu type os long reboot up
[06:48] <al2o3-cr> mate_: you're not making any sense
[06:48] <wileee> just a troll
[06:48] <al2o3-cr> ah
[06:48] <wileee> and a bad one at that lol
[06:48] <backbox> hp
[06:48] <bazhang> !info mate-desktop
[06:49] <al2o3-cr> :) I thought his speech program was scrambled for a minute then
[06:49] <mate_> i have thing vboxs bad files like every else i fix the problems mostly
[06:49] <bazhang> mate_, try #vbox
[06:50] <wafflejock> mate_, this room isn't meant for general chat, many of us are also in #ubuntu-offtopic for random chit chat, this channel is mean to be reserved for support questions and answers specific to certain Ubuntu distros, so as to not complicate giving support remotely through text the people who moderate this room try to keep the topic focused on issues only for those supported distros, other topics are better discussed in more approp
[06:50] <wafflejock> riate channels, most users and volunteers in here just want to get from the problem to a solution as quickly as possible, for random sometimes related to ubuntu chatter with other users head to /join #ubuntu-offtopic for particular topics check the channels people have suggest, not everything is an ubuntu support question
[06:50] <bazhang> wafflejock, rly?
[06:50] <wafflejock> yeah really
[06:50] <bazhang> that was a huge paste
[06:50] <wafflejock> I typed it
[06:50] <bazhang> why not a one liner
[06:51] <wileee> has not worked for hours
[06:51] <wileee> many address to mate_
[07:00] <Guest60697> 这个怎么用的？
[07:00] <fidel_> !jp
[07:00] <fidel_> i hope those are .jp letters
[07:00] <al2o3-cr> !ch
[07:00] <DJones> !cn | hu2015
[07:01] <hu2015> hello word
[07:01] <fidel_> good point DJones ;)
[07:01] <DJones> fidel_: Chinese according to google translate, but not easy to spot the difference for me, not speaking either language
[07:04] <llLogic> i live in japan, its pretty easy to spot the difference imo
[07:04] <ubuntu_> Hey I've put an SSD into my machine (alongside my normal HDD) - booted a live CD and used gparted to copy each GPT partitions (a little fat32, the main ext4 and swap) - over to the SSD
[07:04] <llLogic> chinese is only tradional high stroke count characters, japanese has very simple single stroke characters too
[07:04] <ubuntu_> am I needing to somehow restore GRUB as well or can gparted somehow take the beginnings of the hdd/mbr over for me?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> llLogic, don't feel bad: I've been in Beijing 3 years and still don't read mandarin.  Interviewed yesterday for a Tokyo position
[07:05] <azamrod> s
[07:05] <llLogic> dont feel bad about what?
[07:06] <llLogic> Come to Tokyo, its cleaner but the people are less nice
[07:06] <cfhowlett> eh./  DJones couldn't spot the diff
[07:06] <llLogic> my wife is pretty fluent, im supposed to be studying right now for JLPT3 but im playing games and installing ncmpcpp
[07:07] <cfhowlett> gambatte!
[07:07] <llLogic> warai
[07:07] <cfhowlett> OK, back on topic now ...
[07:07] <llLogic> btw, ganbatte*
[07:07] <cfhowlett> doh!
[07:08] <Insolsence> Is anyone here familiar with upstart?
[07:08] <Insolsence> How could I get an upstart job to properly kill itself on system reboot? I'm trying "stop on (shutdown and reboot)" and then I have a "kill signal INT". But when I reboot the system, the INT isn't sent to the daemon and it's abruptly killed.
[07:12] <SpiderNcider> Ping
[07:12] <cfhowlett> !ping | Spider
[07:12] <SpiderNcider> Ding
[07:22] <solars> hey, can anyone tell me a keylogger that captures browser input? logkeys apparently does not
[07:24] <SpiderNcider> Try keylogger32.exe
[07:24] <solars> hoho
[07:24] <SpiderNcider> Hihi
[07:26] <azamrod> f/ns identify alfonsozr2550
[07:27] <fauzan> hai
[07:28] <fauzan> hallo
[07:28] <BUSY> where can i find some info about unencrypting my /home directory?  i set it up on install but it's now throwing some wrenches into some network stuff i want to do
[07:30] <aurorauser> so when I run df -h
[07:30] <aurorauser> it says Size is 912GB and used is 758GB
[07:30] <aurorauser> its not accounting for 50GB and idk what to do
[07:30] <aurorauser> I've tried rebooting and running fsck
[07:30] <aurorauser> nothing works
[07:31] <Ben64> aurorauser: explain your issue
[07:33] <aurorauser> Ben64: When I run df -h
[07:34] <aurorauser> it says Total 912GB, Used 758GB
[07:34] <aurorauser> and 100GB free
[07:34] <SpiderNcider> Have you tried rebooting?
[07:34] <aurorauser> rebooting and fsck
[07:35] <somsip> SpiderNcider: all of your comments have been jokey or unhelpful. Can you stop now please?
[07:35] <auronandace> aurorauser: maybe you should pastebin the output of df -h
[07:35] <aurorauser> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12004977/
[07:35] <Ben64> might be the reserved space for root
[07:35] <aurorauser> i would think that
[07:35] <aurorauser> but its essentially 3 HDs
[07:36] <aurorauser> 1 HD is mounted to /
[07:36] <aurorauser> and the mountpoint im talking about is an mdadm array
[07:36] <TomyWork> how do i get blkdiscard on ubuntu trusty? according to this it's available on vivid http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/en/man8/blkdiscard.8.html
[07:36] <aurorauser> 2 1TB hard drives in a RAID1
[07:36] <TomyWork> should i just get the package from vivid?
[07:38] <aurorauser> any ideas?
[07:38] <aurorauser> nothing is hung in lsof
[07:38] <auronandace> TomyWork: don't mix packages from different releases, that is a sure-fire way to create problems
[07:38] <aurorauser> and even if it was reboot would have released it anyways
[07:39] <TomyWork> auronandace so what do i do instead? i need blkdiscard because i forgot to turn on discard for my swap partition after dd'ed everything over from my old hdd
[07:39] <TomyWork> +i
[07:41] <k1l> TomyWork: why not making a "discard" to the swap line in fstab?
[07:41] <TomyWork> i did, does that instantly discard the entire swap space?
[07:42] <TomyWork> it's 32 GB and it's rarely ever used up completely
[07:42] <skittishtrigger> Anyone use pugetsystems to build a server?
[07:42] <skittishtrigger> Just curious how they are.
[07:42] <k1l> TomyWork: and the swap space gets discarded on every boot. so after a reboot its done anyway
[07:42] <TomyWork> k1l can i manually trigger that?
[07:42] <k1l> TomyWork: yes, do a swapoff and than a swapon again
[07:43] <TomyWork> did that already
[07:43] <k1l> TomyWork: so? dont worry
[07:43] <auronandace> TomyWork: blkdiscard is in the package util-linux
[07:43] <TomyWork> what i perceive as the symptoms of that missing discard flag is still there
[07:43] <TomyWork> auronandace not on trusty
[07:43] <k1l> TomyWork: i dont understand that panic
[07:44] <TomyWork> k1l my system becomes unusable as soon as swap fills even a little
[07:44] <TomyWork> 100 MB into the swap and i can even free up 3 GB of memory but it still crawls
[07:44] <TomyWork> maybe the untrimmed swap is not the issue
[07:45] <k1l> i dont think that few amount of swap is causing that even if it wanst trimmed.
[07:45] <TomyWork> well the SSD wouldnt slow down per partition, right?
[07:46] <TomyWork> it would slow down globally because it's unaware of partitions
[07:46] <TomyWork> as you can see this problem doesnt make a lot of sense to me :)
[07:47] <k1l> are there known issues with that make and model of that ssd?
[07:48] <crazyhorse18> how can i stop the searching thing (spotlight equivilent) from sending out queries onto the internet
[07:49] <somsip> !adlens | crazyhorse18
[07:49] <crazyhorse18> ah nice
[07:50] <crazyhorse18> thankyou :)
[07:50] <wafflejock> crazyhorse18, it's called the "Dash" in "Unity" which is the default desktop environment just for future reference
[07:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:58] <crazyhorse18> wafflejock: i've only been using ubuntu every day for 7 years... not enough time to learn these thins
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[08:00] <JockRitch> T   I       k   {   O   y   v   Y   y   e
[08:01] <SpiderNcider> What just happened?
[08:01] <ObrienDave> who knows *sigh*
[08:01] <k1l> dont mind the trolls
[08:04] <Kartagis> this looks like the alien signal recently received
[08:05] <TomyWork> that happened before, btw
[08:06] <TomyWork> took ages for Drone` to pick up
[08:11] <chancellor> duely noted
[08:11] <chancellor> #TOR
[08:16] <skittishtrigger> for an os as awesome as ubuntu (for the primary root/boot partition) is it really that big of a gain in server performance to use ssd there?
[08:16] <skittishtrigger> assuming you are using headless and an actual server not a converted desktop
[08:18] <skittishtrigger> I ask because I am thinking of re-doing my entire server configuration next time I bring it down for maintence. And I was thinking a regular hard drive might be better for the os and use thessd for one of the game servers instead (seperating some fo them out as there are 5 runnign on one ssd atm)
[08:18] <auronandace> skittishtrigger: i suppose it would depend on the server's function. If it involves a heavy amount of reads and writes then an ssd would wear out faster than a trraditional harddrive
[08:19] <skittishtrigger> so maybe an enterprise grade sas type hd for the os and ssds for the game/webservers/sql server and several raid sata style drives mirrored for the backup functions?
[08:20] <skittishtrigger> Sorry, I am not completely new to ubuntu and servers but I am woeful lacking in the area of efficiency and proper setup of a real server.
[08:22] <auronandace> skittishtrigger: i'm certainly no expert in server setup so perhaps the guys in #ubuntu-server can help out
[08:23] <skittishtrigger> ya i was mroe curious as to opinions. Seems a lot of this is subjective on a case by case basis. BUt thanks for your input :)
[08:23] <Qantourisc> What network managers are avaible for ubuntu ?
[08:24] <Qantourisc> Also any documentation on intalling it in LXC ?
[08:27] <arcsky> hello all, does anyone know how i can do my ssh login to use the windows 2008 radius/nps ?
[08:29] <Mathisen> Hello can someone tell me how i should do if i want to automaticly copy all the /home folders to a diffrent HD like once a day, but i dont want it to copy the files that is already there. if you understand i just want it to copy the files that are new
[08:30] <fidel_> Mathisen: check rsync
[08:30] <ObrienDave> rsync
[08:30] <Mathisen> thx
[08:31] <ObrienDave> rsync will only copy new or files that have changed. i use it every day
[08:31] <fidel_> Mathisen: grsync is an UI for it - but if you are fine using the terminal - stick to it ;)
[08:31] <Mathisen> ObrienDave nice, will it remove stuff to ? i want to have a backup so i dont want it to 100 % clone it
[08:32] <ObrienDave> rsync will remove things that are no longer in your source. if you want it to
[08:32] <Mathisen> i will do some reading, thx for the help :)
[08:33] <ObrienDave> try grsync first. then you can copy the commands to terminal for rsync
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> Mathisen  i guess luckybackup uses rsync too
[08:34] <llutz> Mathisen: for a nice backup solution, look at rsnapshot (based on rsync)
[08:35] <ObrienDave> i have an alias setup (several actually) ;P
[08:35] <ObrienDave> alias h2u31='sudo rsync -avs --progress --delete /home/david/ /media/david/USB003TB001/Backup/David/Sony/Vaio/VPCEB/1500GB/Xubuntu/Home/david/'
[08:36] <ObrienDave> works really good for daily backup
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> ObrienDave  i use a similar alias
[08:36] <ObrienDave> see? great minds think alike :)
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> also with --progress and --delete
[08:40] <ObrienDave> *waves good night*
[08:41] <columbobaas> 10:40am here
[08:41] <lordievader> If you are already using rsync it might be worth it to look into dirvish.
[09:00] <Amnesia> does anyone over here know where to find shutdown logging?
[09:00] <Amnesia> (I'm unable to find it in /var/log/*)
[09:05] <stoogenmeyer__> hey guys, if I have a file containing the text $MY_VAR, and in my shell i do 'export MYVAR=10', then how would I be able to cat the file and have the $MY_VAR replaced with the actual value?
[09:06] <Amnesia> MY_VAR=$(cat filename)
[09:07] <l1n3x> hey guys
[09:07] <l1n3x> how would one access a bit locker to go drive in linux?
[09:10] <wafflejock> stoogenmeyer__: if the text file you're working in is marked executable and is headed with #!/bin/bash, then the $MY_VAR will be replaced when you run the script but not when you view it with cat
[09:11] <stoogenmeyer__> wafflejock: actually just found out about envsubst which works like a charm (can be read about here: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/TemplateFiles)
[09:12] <k1l> Amnesia: it should be at the end of syslog
[09:12] <Amnesia> k1l: it isn't:)
[09:13] <wafflejock> stoogenmeyer__: interesting I would still go the bash route since it's what I know but thanks for sharing :)
[09:13] <k1l> you need to look at the cycled syslog. like syslog.0 or syslog.1
[09:13] <Amnesia> k1l: I know
[09:13] <k1l> Amnesia: ok. what it the issue then?
[09:14] <Amnesia> grep -ri 'failed to unmount' /var/log/*
[09:14] <Amnesia> ^ should gimme teh entries
[09:14] <Amnesia> but there's no such thing
[09:14] <Amnesia> !@#%^&systemd
[09:14] <l1n3x> still here
[09:15] <toby2012> hi pals. anyone can help me with ubuntu server?
[09:15] <fidel_> toby2012: try it
[09:15] <cfhowlett> !server | toby2012
[09:18] <l1n3x> whats the issue?
[09:19] <dhastha> Need Help : Can anyone help me? I am getting following cron error "/etc/cron.daily/apt:
[09:19] <dhastha> *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': corrupted double-linked list: 0x000000000158c130 ***
[09:19] <dhastha> Aborted"
[09:28] <ethMiner_> hello
[09:28] <JayBau> dhastha: what was the script you have in crontab?
[09:28] <l1n3x> leaving
[09:28] <JayBau> dhastha: crontab -l
[09:29] <ethMiner_> is this script valid http://pastebin.com/DTPdb9X5
[09:31] <ethMiner_> nevermind
[09:32] <dhastha> @JayBau, /etc/cron.daily/apt is running daily
[09:33] <JayBau> dhastha: please crontab -l
[09:34] <dhastha> JayBau, No. It is running by default by system. see /etc/cron.daily/apt
[09:35] <llutz> JayBau: that apt cronjob is part of apt-package, not a users cronjob
[09:35] <dhastha> llutz, exactly
[09:35] <JayBau> dhastha: I had the same problem before, and I noticed that it happens when I don't have enough memory to execute my script
[09:37] <JayBau> dhastha: other than that, you don't have memory consuming script running?
[09:38] <johnzorn> does running any of the apt-get {upgrade,dist-upgrade,full-upgrade} cause something to run a grub installer? I have a custom nongrub boot setup and want to continue managing it myself
[09:38] <dhastha> JayBau: there is no memory consuming script running. The error started from yesterday only
[09:39] <dhastha> JayBau: It was fine before, other two more servers also throwing same error
[09:40] <learner> Hello, can anyone say why free css template is not opening in ubuntu??
[09:41] <learner> am a new user to ubuntu, please help
[09:41] <rory> learner: Are you trying to use Ubuntu as a web server to host a website?
[09:42] <learner> yes rory
[09:42] <rory> learner: What do you have, and what do you mean by not opening?
[09:43] <MoonBurst> I'm having a lot of trouble getting ubuntu to install. I'm pretty sure I'm doing this mostly right though.
[09:43] <MoonBurst> I used unetbootin to put the ISO onto a USB drive, and then at startup told it to boot from the USBHDD. But then instead of booting, it just loads windows anyway :\
[09:44] <popey> MoonBurst: unetbootin is a bit broken for many people
[09:45] <MoonBurst> I also tried the uni usb installer
[09:45] <jpds> MoonBurst: Tried dd?
[09:45] <MoonBurst> dd? no. I haven't seen that yet
[09:46] <learner> rory , i have used windows before working on the linux, i used to download a free template for website but not for the purpose of hosting. But now am in a situation to download a free template website and i need to host that in hosting server. so, i just downloaded a free template website,  its not even opening in firefox web browser.  can you say what the problem is??
[09:46] <MindSpark> hi, guys I am running trusty and I am trying to get the mysql client to run using auto-rehashing/completion. For some reason neither adding auto-rehash in the config nor calling it from the commandline using --auto-rehash or issuing the \# and rehash commands from inside mysql are working
[09:46] <rory> learner: What type of file is it?
[09:46] <MindSpark> is there a known issue for that?
[09:46] <wileee> MoonBurst, Your doing this is windows right?
[09:46] <MoonBurst> Yeah. Trying to escape windows 10 from their new business idea about no privacy.
[09:47] <learner> rory : It's a .zip file
[09:47] <wileee> MoonBurst, Cool, just making sure others know.
[09:47] <MoonBurst> It's a shame too, aside from that privacy issue, I really liked windows 10
[09:47] <rory> learner: What happens when you try to extract the files from it?
[09:48] <rory> learner: You can't open a zip file directly in Firefox... a zip file is an archive containing other files. Right click it and extract, or double click it and drag the files out
[09:48] <wileee> MoonBurst, Computers have a boot menu that is for single sessions, with a key press as if you were going to the bios
[09:48] <MoonBurst> yeah, bios is del. I press f12 to get to boot options
[09:49] <MoonBurst> then from there I tell it to boot from usb hdd, but it sort of ignores me
[09:49] <k1l> MoonBurst: usb-hdds cant be booted in most times as live systems since they are seen as hdds from bios. use a usb pendrive or a dvd
[09:49] <MoonBurst> It's closer to a pendrive anyway, it's a microsd card in a transflash
[09:49] <wileee> MoonBurst, pendrivelinux has several windows usb loaders, you might check the sum of the iso and what you load, all can be done from windows I believe.
[09:50] <learner> rory  yeah, i have extracted and took out the files too, and it has .html file . so i want to run that file, when i try to run the .html file in firefox , its not opening. am using ubuntu
[09:50] <wileee> !sum | MoonBurst
[09:50] <rory> learner: Do you see an error?
[09:50] <rory> learner: If you're in Firefox and you do Ctrl-O (open) and browse to the file and open it that way, does it work?
[09:50] <k1l> MoonBurst: it doesnt matter what it is at the end of 12 adapters :) it counts what the bios will see it as :)
[09:50] <k1l> MoonBurst: regular 2GB usb pendrives are known to work :)
[09:51] <Qantourisc> I'm having troubles using /etc/init.d/networking start, it doesn't give any results (ifup works), (auto has been added for this nic)
[09:51] <wileee> !md5sum | MoonBurst
[09:51] <MoonBurst> Sadly, I don't really have other options. My hardware supply is pretty limited.
[09:51] <learner> rory please wait, i'l let you know now
[09:51] <MoonBurst> I got the 64 bit ubuntu from the official site recently.
[09:51] <LigH> Hello.
[09:51] <MoonBurst> 15.04 I think
[09:52] <LigH> Isup http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ or only timing out for me?
[09:52] <k1l> Qantourisc: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[09:52] <rory> LigH: It's up for me
[09:52] <LigH> o?
[09:52] <LigH> Trying to get http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/15.04/release/ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent ... any mirrors?
[09:53] <Qantourisc> k1l: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:53] <rory> LigH: http://rory.sh/ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:53] <learner> rory yeah, it works but the contents in the .html page it's not opening.
[09:53] <rory> Not opening? So you just see a white page? Or what?
[09:53] <rory> Do you know the html file is actually good?
[09:54] <k1l> Qantourisc: did you try the upstart job? sudo service networking start
[09:54] <LigH> Other Germans seem to have a timeout too. Routing issues at T-Online?!
[09:54] <k1l> Qantourisc: do you use the network manager?
[09:55] <rory> LigH: Can you PM me the output of traceroute cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <LigH> Thanks rory, bye for now...
[09:55] <Qantourisc> k1l: can't find it /etc/init.d so i suspect not
[09:55] <LigH> Oh.
[09:55] <rory> LigH: I mean, if you're curious
[09:55] <learner> rory  yeah i worked with the same template in windows ,  no it's not a white page , it's simply shows the firefox webpage
[09:55] <wileee> rory, downloads and starts to torrent here, with a ton oh peers
[09:55] <learner> rory but in ubuntu, its not opening
[09:55] <k1l> Qantourisc: do you use a gui? which one? do you use the network manager applet?
[09:56] <wileee> rory, sorry meant LigH
[09:56] <Qantourisc> k1l: I can't stop or start it
 Qantourisc: do you use a gui? which one? do you use the network manager applet?
[09:56] <Qantourisc> k1l: I have no gui, it's a debootstrap installation in lxc
[09:56] <rory> learner: can you completely close Firefox, and then right-click the html file and select Open with Firefox Web Browser
[09:56] <Qantourisc> ping is not even installed, so no gui either i think
[09:56] <learner> rory  what's the actual way to run that template in firefox browser ? in ubuntu os
[09:57] <Qantourisc> ls /etc/init.d/N* No such file or directory
[09:57] <rory> learner: double click the html file to open it in Firefox
[09:57] <rory> learner: There is no "actual way"
[09:57] <LigH> OK, route via Frankfurt and London (Level3)... just doesn't load any page. I got rory's torrent, thanks. Bye...
[09:57] <Qantourisc> also status-all doesn't show
[09:57] <k1l> Qantourisc: ok, so no need to go on the hunt for networkmanager then if there is no gui.
[09:58] <learner> rory , i have done it, it shows the start page
[09:58] <rory> learner: Would you mind linking me the template you're using so I can see?
[09:58] <Qantourisc> k1l: i know, ifup works, but networking seems to ignore the auto ? iirc "auto" mean run ifup for this name ?
[09:58] <Black_Shadow> hello
[09:58] <learner> rory i thought to say what you have said... :) Please wait
[09:59] <k1l> Qantourisc: i am not familiar with the special setups a lxc containter uses
[10:00] <Qantourisc> k1l: should be equal, i'll see if I can get my hands on strace that should show what is up
[10:00] <learner> rory check this out : http://www.free-css.com/free-css-templates/page1/photoprowess#shout
[10:00] <Qantourisc> k1l: but it's hard to get dns working, without ping :p
[10:01] <Qantourisc> haha ! magic of lxc: just copied the file :D
[10:01] <rory> learner: I see this when I open the HTML file in Firefox http://i.imgur.com/xuYb54j.png
[10:01] <rory> learner: What is in the Firefox address bar after you open it? e.g. in that screenshot it is: file:///home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html
[10:02] <Guest84133> the item "enable mobile broadband" is not present in the menu of the network manager applet. Why?
[10:03] <k1l> Guest84133: do you have a mobile data hardware thingy running?
[10:04] <ethMiner_> im writing a script
[10:04] <ethMiner_> it goes like this exec first exect second
[10:04] <ethMiner_> the first never finishes so it never gets to the second
[10:04] <ethMiner_> how to i go about this
[10:04] <aurorauser> add a ; instead of &&?
[10:04] <ethMiner_> ok
[10:05] <mancomunado> how do I replace in a .txt. from "***"" to "." and then jump a line after the dot?
[10:05] <k1l> ethMiner_: for bash scripting basics you can ask the guys in ##bash for help
[10:05] <learner> rory , after i opened in the firefox . it doesn't show anything. it's simply a startup page ! , if you don't mind can you open the index.html file? What is it showing?
[10:06] <rory> learner: I see this when I open the HTML file in Firefox http://i.imgur.com/xuYb54j.png
[10:06] <rory> learner: What is in the Firefox address bar after you open it? e.g. in that screenshot it is: file:///home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html
[10:06] <MoonBurst> trying to load ubuntu onto my usb has started crashing explorer.exe :\
[10:06] <learner> rory , after i opened in the firefox . it doesn't show anything. it's simply a startup page ! , if you don't mind can you open the index.html file? What is it showing?
[10:07] <Guest84133> k1l, yes
[10:09] <joff> Just like that Elliot
[10:09] <k1l> Guest84133: which one? what port? is it seen in lsusb/lspci? what do the logs say?
[10:09] <rory> learner: I see this when I open the HTML file in Firefox http://i.imgur.com/xuYb54j.png
[10:09] <rory> learner: What is in the Firefox address bar after you open it? e.g. in that screenshot it is: file:///home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html
[10:09] <rory> learner: That's the third time I've asked you. I'll just wait for your answer.
[10:11] <Guest84133> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12005907/
[10:12] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows where to find the shutdown logs? For some reason ubuntu didn't want to shut down, it spent 15 minutes in the "shutting down" screen
[10:12] <k1l> Guest84133: did you do the modeswitch?
[10:13] <rory> kokut: For what it's worth, I've been using Ubuntu for 10 years and it's never once shut down properly without doing that.
[10:13] <Guest84133> k1l, no
[10:13] <kokut> rory: doing what?
[10:13] <Guest84133> k1l, I don't know how to
[10:13] <rory> kokut: hanging indefinitely on the purple shutdown screen
[10:13] <k1l> Guest84133: you are from italy?
[10:14] <Jobbe> Ahoy
[10:14] <Guest84133> k1l, yes
[10:14] <learner> rory  you are asking the right question, but in my side, when i open index.html file using firefox its not displaying any contents nothing but the mozilla firefox startup page. I have tried another file, portfolio.html , it's also seems like opening in browser, but not yet displayed anything.  am i clear to you? Did you got what am saying?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Longshot but I'll ask anyway:  happy owner of the Dell Precision m3800 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 14.04.2  As of 08/05/15, no boot.  It powers on, runs for 7 seconds and shuts down.  No boot splash, no beeps.  I'
[10:14] <kokut> rory: well it never happened to me until now and i won't tolerate it
[10:14] <k1l> Guest84133: a search for "1ee8:0013 ubuntu" brings some italian ubuntu forums and mailinglists. maybe you find the solution there
[10:15] <Guest84133> k1l, maybe it could help a lot if you tell me how to use modeswitch
[10:15] <k1l> Guest84133: for mobile data usb sticks, you sometimes (in most cases) need to bring the stick into the "mobile data" mode. so it is not seen as a regular usb stick. that is called modeswitch
[10:16] <Guest84133> k1l, I see, so what is the syntax of modeswitch
[10:16] <Guest84133> ?
[10:16] <Jobbe> So I've configured a pxe boot server, with multiple install options. One of them is Debian, which i have configured to work with a preseed file. Works flawless. Now. I've gone ahead and configured the same for ubuntu, the intaller works, no problem. But here is my problem. On debian i needed to include a firmware package in initrd.gz, so i unpacked it, created the firmware dir and put in the .deb file, then
[10:16] <Jobbe> repackages it and put back in the pxe dir, debian installs fine without asking for the firmware. But when i do the same procedure on ubuntu, it does not work.
[10:17] <rory> learner: Can you try to open it using the terminal and maybe if there's some error you will see it. Do the following:
[10:17] <rory> learner: first make sure firefox is closed with "killall firefox"
[10:17] <rory> learner: and then open the file with (e.g.) "firefox /home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html" (obviously your path will be different)
[10:17] <k1l> Guest84133: that depends on the exact hardware. i dont know that for every mobile data stick. so please see the italian sites who have done this with that italian hardware stick already.
[10:18] <Guest84133> k1l, ok
[10:18] <k1l> Guest84133: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=403233
[10:18] <learner> rory i can't get u the command "killall firefox" . Do i need to type this in terminal?
[10:18] <Jobbe> this is the firmware package https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek
[10:18] <Jobbe> could it be that ubuntu simply does not reconise this package ?
[10:18] <Guest84133> k1l, but I ask: why is it so complicated. why I can't activate it direct from the applet of network manager?
[10:18] <Jobbe> it's ubuntu 14.04 btw
[10:19] <k1l> Guest84133: because the hardware stick makers dont publish firmware for linux that would do that automatically.
[10:19] <rory> learner: yes
[10:19] <Black_Shadow> what is the italian ubuntu channel???
[10:19] <jpds> !it | Black_Shadow
[10:19] <k1l> !it | Black_Shadow
[10:19] <Black_Shadow> thank
[10:20] <Guest84133> k1l, but the thing is: if I reboot, I connect automatically. why?
[10:21] <learner> rory yes i have typed, it shows firefox : no process found
[10:21] <TJ-> Jobbe: when building the initrd.img, initramfs-tools use the function manaula_add_modules() in "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions" - that code implies the initrd.im needs both the kernel module and firmware. Did you also ensure the kernel module was included and loaded via "/lib/modules" ?
[10:21] <Guest84133> k1l, I mean, I reboot, I do wvdial and everything goes
[10:21] <rory> learner: OK fine that just means firefox is properly closed. Now use the other command I gave.
[10:21] <Guest84133> k1l, but It's not very practicle to reboot every time I need to connect
[10:21] <learner> rory sure
[10:22] <Jobbe>  TJ- I'm not sure about that
[10:23] <Black_Shadow> as you can connect to a server ???
[10:23] <Jobbe> TJ-: how would i go about and check that ?
[10:24] <Jobbe> dammit, i gotta run for a sec, got a server down - TJ- thanks, I'll try read up on that
[10:25] <TJ-> Jobbe: in the initrd, the modules to load are listed in "conf/modules"
[10:26] <k1l> Guest84133: could be a firmware issue on disconnect. please see the guys who have experience with that exact hardware
[10:26] <Guest84133> k1l, my opinion is, if "enable mobile broadband" would be active by default, everything would be fine
[10:28] <rory> learner: afk 10 minutes.
[10:29] <learner> rory can't get you
[10:29] <learner> rory do i need to wait for 10mins?
[10:30] <Cedric_> sup guys
[10:30] <Cedric_> I am having problem running application in Ubuntu 14.04
[10:30] <Cedric_> I found that gksudo is not isntalled by default
[10:31] <Cedric_> I am trying to launch app from the Unity bar with  sudo
[10:31] <Cedric_> is that something possible for unity?
[10:32] <k1l> Cedric_: dont use sudo. sudo is for cli usage and not for GUI. it will break the permissions.
[10:32] <Cedric_> I did tried gksudo
[10:32] <k1l> Cedric_: gksu is the command for gui. but be aware of using root rights only where they are really needed
[10:33] <Cedric_> I also tried changing the .desktop for my application
[10:33] <rory> learner: back
[10:33] <Cedric_> Exec=/opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F
[10:33] <rory> learner: still waiting for you to open the html file in Firefox via the terminal using the command I gave
[10:33] <Cedric_> I update this line to Exec=gksudo /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F
[10:34] <Cedric_> but it's not launching
[10:34] <rory> Cedric_: does it work if you run "gksudo /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F" directly from a terminal?
[10:35] <k1l> Cedric_: see what i wrote :)
[10:36] <Cedric_> rory: gksudo /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F works, but it appears that it is opening a file name %F for editing
 Cedric_: gksu is the command for gui. but be aware of using root rights only where they are really needed
[10:36] <TJ-> Guest84133: Your device (1ee8:0013) is supported by usb-modeswitch. Do "sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch"
[10:36] <rory> Cedric_: Why do you need the %F, I'm not sure of the meaning of that
[10:37] <Cedric_> k1l: I understand that sudo is for cli and gksudo is intended for root
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:37] <learner> rory the command is "killall firefox" right ?
[10:37] <Guest84133> TJ-, i still have usb_modeswitch
[10:37] <rory> learner: killall firefox is just to make sure firefox is closed
[10:37] <rory> learner: and then open the file with (e.g.) "firefox /home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html" (obviously your path will be different)
[10:37] <k1l> Cedric_: come on. gksudo vs gksu
[10:37] <Cedric_> rory: I just want to add icon in the unity bar that will be executed as root
[10:37] <learner> rory okay, i'l do it now, pls wait
[10:38] <TJ-> Guest84133: Does this command report that device ID? "tar -tzf /usr/share/usb_modeswitch/configPack.tar.gz | grep '1ee8:0013'  "
[10:38] <k1l> Cedric_: you should be a lot more aware of what you do and read when it comes to root priviledges
[10:38] <ivo34> hello I am followind these instructions: http://wiki.winehq.org/Patching  in order to patch a wine installation...but the second part which tells an easy method to revert patches uses git show is there a package needed to get that working?  because it a bash unknown command for my terminal
[10:39] <Cedric_> k1l: here's what I want, I want to add icon to this Unity bar, that when I clicked on it, it will be executed as root
[10:39] <rory> ivo34: you would need to install "git"
[10:39] <Cedric_> k1l: not sure what is not clear with the concern :)
[10:39] <rory> ivo34: What is the complete message you get on the terminal when you try to run the command?
[10:39] <k1l> Cedric_: and i tell you the 10th time now, that its not gksudo anymore but gksu now.
[10:40] <Cedric_> k1l: try in your terminal, gksu or gksudo both works
[10:40] <ivo34> rory my32bitbox:~/wine-git$ git show c959867510703a100106f292cd26cb8f489236bb | patch -p1 -R
[10:40] <ivo34> -bash: git: orden no encontrada
[10:40] <Cedric_> k1l: gksudo is part of the gksu package isn't it?
[10:41] <ivo34> command not found in english sorry
[10:41] <rory> ivo34: yes, you need to install the "git" package (sudo apt-get install git)
[10:41] <ivo34> hmmmm
[10:41] <ivo34> I am using lxc
[10:41] <ivo34> container
[10:41] <k1l> Cedric_: did you change the file in /usr/share/applications/?
[10:41] <ivo34> okay
[10:41] <rory> ivo34: you can't run "git" without having "git" installed.
[10:42] <rory> ivo34: I don't really know what to say/
[10:42] <Cedric_> k1l: gksudo subl and gksu subl both works in terminal, but that's not what I want to happen, I want to add shortut in my unity bar that will be executed as root by default
[10:42] <ivo34> so I need to install git in the container aswell
[10:42] <rory> ivo34: Yes.
[10:42] <ivo34> cook
[10:42] <k1l> Cedric_: did you pin and unpin it afterwards on the launcher bar?
[10:42] <Cedric_> k1l: yes, tried gksudo and gksu
[10:42] <ivo34> cool*
[10:42] <ivo34> thanks
[10:42] <k1l> *unpin and pin
[10:42] <Cedric_> k1l: yes, that's what I have read in askubutu but didn't worked
[10:42] <Guest84133> TJ-, yes, it does
[10:43] <Cedric_> k1l: pin, edit sublime*.desktop, unpin, pin
[10:45] <k1l> is there a error? maybe see .xsession-errors
[10:45] <k1l> in the users home and roots home
[10:45] <learner> rory  its not opening
[10:46] <learner> rory do u have any idea to this in other way?
[10:46] <rory> learner: What full command are you running? And what full output do you see?
[10:46] <rory> learner: If it is many lines, use http://paste.ubuntu.co,
[10:46] <rory> learner: If it is many lines, use http://paste.ubuntu.com *
[10:47] <killer> hey , anyone tried macbook air (2015) on ubuntu ?
[10:47] <Guest84133> TJ-, yes, it does
[10:47] <killer> amd 64 image is supposed to work on mac ?
[10:47] <learner> rory home/suseela/Desktop/3e website project/photoprowess/index.html this is the path i run in firefox
[10:48] <ivo34> hey rory wich one is the patched file here: |--- a/programs/winecfg/Pt.rc
[10:48] <ivo34> |+++ b/programs/winecfg/Pt.rc
[10:48] <rory> ivo34: I have no idea
[10:48] <learner> rory : but it's not opening rory
[10:48] <ivo34> rory btw it worked I needed to install git
[10:48] <rory> ivo34: If the git output is saying +++ it means 3 lines added to that file
[10:49] <ivo34> so that one is the patched one
[10:49] <rory> ivo34: if it is saying (e.g) +++--- it means 3 lines added and 3 lines removed
[10:49] <rory> ivo34: Looks like it
[10:49] <Cedric_> k1l: tried gksudo and gksu, no errors in .xsession
[10:49] <Jobbe> ok I'm back TJ-
[10:49] <rory> learner: I can't help you any further because you won't let me help you by answering my questions
[10:49]  * rory afk
[10:49] <TJ-> Guest84133: in that case when the device is plugged in udevd should execute usb_modeswitch with the configuration settings in its database.  Once configured the modem-manager service should take on management of the device, and tell network-manager about it. Use "nmcli nm" to report the status of the WWAN device
[10:50] <learner> rory : let's discuss about the other way of editing website templates and run it in firefox.
[10:50] <rory> with respect learner if you can't open a file in a program, perhaps web development isn't for you
[10:51] <learner> rory okay, anyother way
[10:51] <Guest84133> TJ-, so which command should I practically give?
[10:52] <Guest84133> TJ-, gives a void answer
[10:52] <Guest84133> TJ-, nmcli nmgives a void ans wer
[10:52] <Guest84133> TJ-, nmcli nm gives a void answer
[10:53] <Jobbe> [12:25:13] <        TJ-> | Jobbe: in the initrd, the modules to load are listed in "conf/modules"
[10:53] <Cedric_> anyways, I think it's something to do with this unity thing, I'll just create a script to run what I want... pif
[10:53] <Jobbe> TJ-: i have extracted the initrd.gz file into /tmp/ubuntu
[10:54] <Jobbe> I see a list of files in /tmp/ubuntu/lib/modules/3.13.0-61-generic
[10:54] <Jobbe> I don't see a conf dir anywhere
[10:55] <Guest84133> TJ , if it so, why it doesn't work?
[10:56] <Jobbe> It appears in this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/595455
[10:56] <Jobbe> that i should be able to load firmware into /lib/firmware hmm
[10:57] <ubuntu608> I got ubuntu to boot into a demo and it gives me the option to install it for real. Are there any issues with dataloss that I might run into if I do that?
[10:59] <ivo34> rory what would you type as the target file? http://pastebin.com/yiYKSv00
[10:59] <Guest84133> TJ, why it works just after reboot?
[11:00] <ubuntu608> I got ubuntu to boot into a demo and it gives me the option to install it for real. Are there any issues with dataloss that I might run into if I do that?
[11:01] <Ahti> ubuntu608, nope
[11:01] <ubuntu608> I just had to check, because the way that it's worded seems a bit odd
[11:05] <Ahti> Infact, doing it from live mode allows you greater partitioning control.
[11:07] <Ahti> Should rephrase that; You have to boot into the "Live Desktop" to do more advanced partitioning to install anyway...
[11:09] <k1l> ubuntu608: well, its a machine. if you give it the false command it can wipe all the data. so be sure to have  a backup of the important stuff.
[11:09] <TomyWork> i'm installing a fresh kubuntu trusty and i want to use LVM, so i'm creating the recommended /boot partition. how big should it be?
[11:10] <TomyWork> i hear numbers ranging from 16 to 500 mb
[11:10] <Fudge> anyone know on the ubuntu-server image the packages to get th etext installer? trying to do it on a cli live cd that isnt server
[11:11] <ethMiner_> i have a script
[11:11] <ethMiner_> .sh
[11:12] <ethMiner_> how do i make it run on startup
[11:12] <k1l> TomyWork: the more the better. most people come into trouble when they have to much kernels installed and /boot is full
[11:12] <k1l> !startup
[11:12] <TomyWork> ethMiner_ as your user? crontab -e and add an @reboot directive
[11:12] <k1l> ethMiner_: depends on when and as whom you want it to run
[11:12] <TomyWork> ethMiner_ if it needs the x server, it's more complicated
[11:12] <k1l> ethMiner_: and i am sure i answered that the last days already several times
[11:13] <TomyWork> k1l i see... so i'll give it 500 MB?
[11:13] <ethMiner_> k1l: if you did answer it correctly i wouldnt be here
[11:13] <k1l> TomyWork: if the hdd is big enough, i would got with 500mb too.
[11:13] <ethMiner_> TomyWork: @reboot /home/shovel/Desktop/launchers.sh
[11:13] <k1l> ethMiner_: so what was my answer?
[11:14] <ethMiner_> i added that to crontab -e
[11:14] <TomyWork> ethMiner_ in that case, you forgot point number 4 in that guide here: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
[11:14] <ethMiner_> k1l: this thing http://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up
[11:15] <pranav> hi.. slightly out of context, but do we have terminal based software for facebook chat?
[11:15] <TomyWork> (which isnt linked anywhere but it's a good read anyway. helps solving some problems on your own even)
[11:15] <ethMiner_> TomyWork: i use the nightly build of Common Sense 2015
[11:15] <ethMiner_> that is obsolete
[11:15] <ethMiner_> can you help me or not?
[11:15] <TomyWork> pranav easiest way is to ask your friends to go to another means of chatting :)
[11:16] <sjoshi> pranav: try weechat with bitlbee
[11:16] <Fudge> pranav:  look up the bitlbee irc server, im.bitlbee.org
[11:16] <sjoshi> i am using that currently and working like charm
[11:16] <k1l> ethMiner_: your attitude is not suitable in here. if you dont like the answers and just want us to do your work, then look out for another comuntiy
[11:16] <Fudge> that does jabber whcih is facebook chat etc
[11:17] <Fudge> same
[11:17] <pranav> sjoshi: Fudge I heard somewhere facebook dicontinued xampp
[11:17] <Fudge> anyone familiar with ubiquity and how to invoke a cli frontend
[11:17] <k1l> ethMiner_: you were geiven 100% right answers all the last days. so if you dont recognize them and or even read them, then stop asking in here. i told you yesterday to use rc.local for example.
[11:18] <ethMiner_> k1l: i give you legitimate proof that they dont work
[11:18] <Fudge> ethMiner_:  if your script isnt working pipe it to a log file and find out why
[11:18] <ethMiner_> my script is working when i run it
[11:18] <ethMiner_> but it never runs on startup
[11:19] <ethMiner_> i tried cron, i tried rc.local
[11:19] <ethMiner_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=properties.png you see that box there
[11:19] <Fudge> have you pastebinned it for others to read
[11:19] <ethMiner_> i put sudo /path/to/script.sh there and it doesnt work
[11:19] <ethMiner_> the script?
[11:19] <ethMiner_> i dont know where the error logs are
[11:19] <ethMiner_> script is working fine
[11:19] <Fudge> i dont think you would need sudo
[11:19] <k1l> ethMiner_: sudo is not for GUI
[11:20] <LonelyDanbo> I can't install Xubuntu 15.04 off USB. It says "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" and searching for that error says it's unique to Gigabyte motherboards which I have, but the solution to enable IOMMU doesn't work. {it was enabled already when I tried}
[11:20] <Fudge> its where ever you pipe it to
[11:20] <k1l> ethMiner_: and all the time you say its not a GUI script
[11:20] <pranav> anyone recently used facebook chat on terminal? how?
[11:20] <ethMiner_> k1l: ill give you the script so you can read
[11:20] <sjoshi> pranav: as of now its working and not sure uptill when ..:)
[11:21] <ethMiner_> http://pastebin.com/7iXutEbP this is my script that i want to run
[11:21] <pranav> sjoshi: https://www.bitlbee.org/ is blocked
[11:21] <k1l> ethMiner_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up that lists a lot of possible solutions.
[11:21] <ethMiner_> k1l: i just trued 2 of their solutions
[11:21] <ethMiner_> tried
[11:21] <LonelyDanbo> I don't know why the hell it's such a problem to install an OS on a $1K PC I bought 1.5 years ago. It took me 3 weeks to get things installed and working a year and a half ago.
[11:21] <ethMiner_> the cron one does not work and the .conf in init/ does not work either
[11:22] <Steven_> hello everyone, I'm trying to recompile the linux-image package for 15.04 (linux 3.19.0-25), but I always get a compile error due to missing include files. How does Ubuntu compile these kernels if not through their own source package?
[11:22] <pranav> sjoshi:any ideas, if the im.bitlbee.org is blocked
[11:23] <soulisson> Hello, i'd like to know how logwatch knows if an event belongs to today or yesterday? Does it rely on the timestamp in the log file or on the file date creation?
[11:23] <asd> Can somebody help me out with this problem that I'm having? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3fux1g/vlc_version_problem/
[11:28] <LonelyDanbo> I dunno. I remember having trouble writing the ISO to USB last time. Stuff that should have worked didn't.
[11:30] <fauzan> hallo jonne
[11:32] <k1l> asd: what gives you "apt-cache policy vlc" please put it into a pastebin and show the url here
[11:32] <k1l> !paste | asd
[11:32] <djjeff>  qtbase5-dev not installable on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:32] <djjeff> this bug is preventing us from installing lots of apps
[11:33] <djjeff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1435324
[11:33] <hectortrope> Hello guys any one tell me how I insta;; ubuntu on a phone
[11:33] <hectortrope> I have octa core processor
[11:33] <pranav> is there a common proxy server in ubuntu?
[11:34] <k1l> djjeff: can you show the apt-get install qtbase5-dev in a pastebin?
[11:34] <pranav> my organisation has blocked all sites where one can spend time :P
[11:34] <fidel_> pranav: squid is a common proxy software
[11:35] <k1l> hectortrope: see #ubuntu-touch and see the topic of that channel for the porting guide. or see communites like xda if someone alreaady did the porting
[11:35] <pesari> pranav: if you have access to an ssh box outside your organisation, you could use it as socks proxy
[11:40] <impalle> So is enabling the firewall really needed if you do only surf and e-mail on a ubuntu system?
[11:40] <k1l> impalle: no.
[11:40] <impalle> does the fw take alot of resources (mem, space)?
[11:40] <impalle> or cpu
[11:41] <k1l> impalle: what do you hope to get from running the fw?
[11:41] <impalle> good question. I guess to peek into the fw log and see if someone is trying to intrude
[11:42] <k1l> impalle: well, that is not going to happen. the windows firewalls do generate a false view on what a firewall is.
[11:42] <impalle> the fw allows only outbound traffic, if no fw all inbound is allowed, not?
[11:43] <k1l> impalle: if there is no service daemon running and listening on a port, you cant "hack" the port.
[11:43] <LonelyDanbo> what do I do to try and troubleshoot why I can't install Ubuntu off USB? The last error it gave, the solution to that doesn't work: enabling IOMMU in BIOS. error "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[11:44] <impalle> kil: thanks I get it now (yep Win does make you have a wrong idea on ip traffic)
[11:45] <impalle> LonelyDanbo: is the partition marked as bootable?
[11:46] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: what program did you use to create the usb? did you check the md5sum?
[11:46] <LonelyDanbo> impalle, well I'm booting off the HD, and the USB stick starts ... something, so I'm guessing both are set as bootable.
[11:47] <LonelyDanbo> k1l, I didn't check the md5sum. I used the recomended program... I forget what. mkusb or something?
[11:47] <LonelyDanbo> yes, mkusb was the correct name.
[11:47] <impalle> LonelyDanbo: as k1l said, maybe the tool you used did not succed in making the USB bootable
[11:48] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: are you on a linux already? so i would try the "dd" command to erase other programs making issues there.
[11:48] <LonelyDanbo> it started with a menu asking me if I wanted to boot Ubuntu or install it, so I'm pretty sure it booted.
[11:49] <djjeff> k1l: its actually a launchpad issue
[11:49] <djjeff> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211257553/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.obs-studio_0.11.1-197~trusty_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:49] <LonelyDanbo> k1l, I'm on Ubuntu yes. {Just trying to install a better version on another partition.} dd to erase other programs where?
[11:49] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: on that menu you should be able check the md5sum of that boot medium too.
[11:50] <impalle> Does your BIOS have a "secure boot" option? try switching it off!
[11:50] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: "sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=1M && sync " just be sure that sdX is the right X, or it will wipe other devices
[11:53] <LonelyDanbo> alright. I'll try that.
[11:53] <LonelyDanbo> thanks.
[11:53] <ethMiner_> the third box
[11:53] <ethMiner_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=properties.png
[11:53] <ethMiner_> look at it
[11:54] <ethMiner_> my script is here /home/shovel/Desktop/launchers.sh
[11:54] <ethMiner_> how do i add it to that box
[11:54] <ethMiner_> and make it execute on startup
[11:59] <LonelyDanbo> is this error in gparted maybe why I'm having trouble installing off the USB stick? "/dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should."
[12:00] <Jobbe> i fixed my problem
[12:01] <impalle> how do I get sound on my newly installed Lubuntu system? I have a HP Pavilion 15 notebook
[12:04] <Exagone313> Hello, is it possible to choose the listen IP address for dnsmasq? The configuration "listen-address" unfortunately does not work...
[12:05] <Exagone313> it seems to be a bug not corrected since years...
[12:06] <impalle> found it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[12:09] <ethMiner_> im back again
[12:09] <ethMiner_> where is the file .bash_rc
[12:10] <llutz> ethMiner_: ~/.bashrc
[12:10] <baizon> ethMiner_: in your home directore, and its called .bashrc
[12:12] <x4w3> hello everyone.
[12:12] <Ubuntu908> I think I'm at the last installation hurdle.
[12:13] <Ubuntu908> I can't actually install it though because I have too many primary partitions.
[12:13] <llutz> Ubuntu908: remove one, create an extended partition, use logical drives. or use gpt
[12:14] <Ubuntu908> I think I want to use a logical drive. I'll have to check youtube or something to find how though.
[12:14] <Ubuntu908> the problem with ubuntu is I have no idea what I'm doing.
[12:15] <Ubuntu908> the good part about ubuntu is I learn what I'm doing
[12:20] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: :) it's very easy....
[12:21] <sneer_> hello
[12:21] <Ubuntu908> I'm hoping I can do it without too many reboots. Since as of late, trying to get ubuntu up and running has been a huge pain in the butt
[12:21] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: if you can't use whole partition in the disk, try to create manually partitions...it isnt difficult.
[12:22] <Ubuntu908> I'd like to cut off about 30 gigs for just the OS and run all my programs from my other drive
[12:22] <x4w3> you can install where u want, primary or extended.
[12:22] <Ubuntu908> SSD for the OS, HDD for the rest
[12:23] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  your old data is into hdd? and sdd is new one?
[12:23] <Ubuntu908> Yes and no.
[12:23] <x4w3> :) you have installed into sdd more things...isnt it?
[12:23] <Ubuntu908> I got them at the same time, but installed all my non system files, or as many as I could onto the HDD
[12:24] <Ubuntu908> but my drivers, and I think my antivirus items are on the SSD
[12:24] <Ubuntu908> and I've lost a good chunk on a windows.old when I upgraded to windows 10 that it won't let me delete :\
[12:24] <livcd> i am getting this from vagrant sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[12:25] <livcd> i have tried to play with sudoers but did not get any result
[12:25] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: save data to a extended partition and after it, remove all windows and linux, a reinstall all again....
[12:26] <Ubuntu908> the linux seems to be not on the computer yet, it's on a thumbdrive
[12:26] <x4w3> sudo -i, sudo su....
[12:27] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  enough to create a new extended partition and move all data into hdd and sdd into it.
[12:27] <Ubuntu908> I haven't actually figured out how to make the extended partition yet.
[12:28] <Ubuntu908> I think I need to do something in the disk managment window though
[12:28] <x4w3> livcd: sudo visudo o edit /etc/sudoers to grant your user...
[12:29] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: run gparted daemon and check both hardrives are recognized, after it select hdd and try to create extended using free space or without assigment space after delete unused partition.
[12:31] <x4w3> livcd: other way is use the command in full path, like sudo /sbin/ifconfig instead of sudo ifconfig.
[12:31] <Ubuntu908> is gparted daemon in ubuntu, or is that a seperate program?
[12:32] <x4w3> let me check it
[12:35] <x4w3> no sorry, you need to install it, i check in Ubuntu 64 14.04 LTS and by default is not installed.
[12:35] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: sudo apt-get install gparted :P
[12:35] <Ubuntu908> Can I do that with the demo ubuntu?
[12:35] <x4w3> let me check if exists by default other one
[12:35] <OerHeks> it is standard on the live iso
[12:36] <Ubuntu908> because it locked me out of my HDD files before when I was in the demo
[12:36] <OerHeks> not sure why gparted is removed after installation ..
[12:36] <livcd> x4w3: i did but there has not been any effect...but hey this is more connected to vagrant
[12:37] <x4w3> livcd: paste your full command please...
[12:37] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: with live cd gparted is by default and you can use it, why you can mount your data partition?
[12:39] <Ubuntu908> I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'll try and explain the situatiuon a bit better.
[12:40] <Ubuntu908> When I try to install ubuntu from the thumbdrive normally, outside of the demo it says I can't due to partitions. and when I try to do it from in the demo version, it basically says I need to wipe everything.
[12:41] <livcd> x4w3: vagrant ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[12:41] <Ubuntu908> I actually thought about just moving all my data to the HDD, unplugging it, and installing that way, wiping my windows out in the process
[12:41] <Ubuntu908> I mean, that way by unplugging it, it can't really be knocked out.
[12:43] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: excuse i'm trying to understand, i'm spanish....
[12:44] <Ubuntu908> That's plenty fine. I can't really be upset over that.
[12:44] <Ubuntu908> Well, not reaonably anyway.
[12:44] <x4w3> livcd: add your user to sudo group first sudo usermod -a -G sudo vagrant
[12:44] <funkenstrahlen> What is the best way to make iptables rules persistent?
[12:45] <Ubuntu908> I'll try and put gparted on the thumbdrive too I suppose
[12:45] <Ubuntu908> and hopefully be able to get things working
[12:45] <Aleksa> Hello! How do I send X through SSH when my router closes almost all ports? Could I somehow forward X through my http port?
[12:46] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: try live cd, of course you will be able to move all your data to the best partition and after it reinstall windows in to the primary and then install ubuntu :P
[12:46] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: live cd mount every partition  :)
[12:46] <livcd> x4w3: i created an "admin" group and added vagrant to it
[12:47] <Ubuntu908> I don't actually have CDs to burn it onto.
[12:47] <x4w3> livcd: test first adding user to group sudo, only in UNIX you can use admin i think, i dont know
[12:47] <OerHeks> funkenstrahlen, i would use the iptables-persistent tool
[12:48] <OerHeks> !info iptables-persistent
[12:48] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  live cd will not delete any partition.
[12:48] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  you can use Hiren's Boot too, include linux live with gparted
[12:49] <Ubuntu908> Wait, to make sure I understand the term.... is a live cd an actual disk?
[12:49] <OerHeks> ouch, do not mention Hirens here, it is highly illegal x4w3
[12:49] <OerHeks> the live iso has got gparted.
[12:49] <x4w3> ok sorry
[12:49] <livcd> x4w3: ok..but nope it's still the same :S
[12:50] <x4w3> livcd: try vagrant   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[12:50] <k1l_> Ubuntu908: the live system could be placed on a cd/dvd or a usb pendrive
[12:50] <OerHeks> x4w3, suggest UBcd ultimate boot cd next time, is freeware ;-)
[12:50] <llutz> livcd: after adding a user to a group, the user needs to re-login
[12:52] <livcd> llutz: yes i did that :-)
[12:53] <Aleksa> no answer to my question?
[12:55] <OerHeks> Aleksa, did your provider closed ports?
[12:55] <Aleksa> no
[12:55] <Aleksa> It's by default
[12:55] <Aleksa> I mean
[12:55] <Aleksa> OerHeks, I cannot do ssh to my PC, unless I open 22 port manually on my router.
[12:56] <Aleksa> I'm writing a tutorial, but I cannot figure it out :(
[12:57] <llutz> Aleksa: open the port (use portforwarding), connect to your pc using "ssh -X user@host", done
[12:57] <OerHeks> Aleksa, so you CAN open port 22 .. why do you ask for an other way trough th http port ( 80) ??
[12:58] <livcd> x4w3: no difference
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Aleksa:  this shows a couple of options for X forwarding  http://askubuntu.com/questions/35512/what-is-the-difference-between-ssh-y-trusted-x11-forwarding-and-ssh-x-u
[12:59] <Aleksa> OerHeks, in case on the other side (person using pc i consider remote) does not know how to open port 22 on router.
[12:59] <Aleksa> Maybe to set SSH to listen on 80?
[12:59] <llutz> Aleksa: why would port 80 on a router should be open?
[13:00] <llutz> -would
[13:00] <Aleksa> llutz, ok so, what port is usually opened on router? I thought it's 80 for http, classic internet surfing
[13:01] <llutz> Aleksa: none, you don't need to open port 80 to reach websites OUTSIDE
[13:01] <kgirthofer> #classicinternetsurfing
[13:01] <llutz> Aleksa: normal soho-routers shouldn't have any open ports. they allow all outbound, nothing inbound
[13:01] <x4w3> livcd: sudoers it's very easy, but try with new user --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer-using-the-command-line
[13:02] <llutz> Aleksa: if you don't want to open any ports, use a reverse-ssh-tunnel
[13:03] <x4w3> livcd: remember that all members of the group admin, are in Ubuntu by default allowed to use sudo, so the easiest way is to add the user account to the admin group.
[13:03] <x4w3> but try with new user better :)
[13:04] <Aleksa> llutz, thank you a lot! I will google it :)
[13:10] <Aleksa> llutz, one last question: According to one tutorial I am following right now, it is possible to access to PC that is behind router (NAT). It's done with 'ssh -R anyport:localhost:22 user:his_ip'
[13:10] <Aleksa> nut
[13:10] <Aleksa> *but
[13:10] <Aleksa> of course that command is supposed to be run on remote pc
[13:11] <ash__> hey, i was trying to install LAMP with tasksel and suddenly all my programs started to uninstall ... any idea why?
[13:11] <Aleksa> and on source pc, I need to type ssh localhost -p 'the_same_port'
[13:11] <llutz> Aleksa: sure, thats why it is called "reverse tunnel"
[13:11] <Aleksa> the question is: Would all this work if the "source PC" is also behind the router?
[13:12] <Aleksa> would this reverse tunnel work with both PC's being behind the router?
[13:12] <ash__> all means almost all .... browsers, ubuntu-desktop...
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Aleksa:  yes it should
[13:12] <llutz> Aleksa: the same router? then it makes no sense, the can connect direct.
[13:12] <Aleksa> llutz, not the same. Each PC has it's own router
[13:12] <gnmk> Hi
[13:13] <gnmk> what is the best way to install .deb packages from directory at boot time ?
[13:13] <llutz> Aleksa: works too, just one of the router has to allow incoming ssh-connections (port forwarding)
[13:13] <jpds> gnmk: Why
[13:13] <jpds> gnmk: Why would you want to do that?
[13:13] <wtm_iphone> Any one knows how to play videos with framebuffer? Mplayer cannot open the framebuffer(with or without sudo, both cannot)
[13:13] <Aleksa> llutz, what if neither router allows it?
[13:13] <llutz> Aleksa: you're lost
[13:14] <Aleksa> reverse tunneling works on remote pc whose ports on router are closed
[13:14] <gnmk> jpds: because there are some requirement which will install basic ubutu rootfs and need to add some packages later .
[13:14] <wtm_iphone> But my framebuffer device works fine, I can use fbterm on it
[13:14] <Aleksa> so, at least one port must be opened?
[13:14] <llutz> Aleksa: yes,
[13:14] <Aleksa> :(
[13:14] <gnmk> jpds: its basically container .
[13:14] <Aleksa> is there some kind of double reverse tunneling?
[13:15] <jpds> gnmk: You're going to want to look at cloud-init and see how it does stuff
[13:15] <llutz> Aleksa: i doubt because one side always has to be able to receive inbound connections
[13:16] <gnmk> jpds: ok let me see.
[13:17] <wtm_iphone> Can any one help me?
[13:20] <wtm_iphone> D:
[13:21] <gnmk> jpds: ok I can use could-init for containers but if physical HW, what will be the best approach rc.local or cron or something else .
[13:21] <motz> usb_modeswitch says: "Error: message endpoint not given or found. Abort". what does it mean?
[13:25] <LonelyDanbo> will this error get in the way of using the Ubuntu installer on the USB stick, and require fixing, or do I ignore it? "/dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should."
[13:26] <gnmk> jpds: any tested methods ?
[13:29] <Paddy_NI> Is there any way I can make the file type case insensitive for this particular operation.  "find /media/patrick/SAMSUNG/Recovered_Data/ -name \*.mp3 -exec mv {} /media/patrick/SAMSUNG/Recovered_Files/Audio/ \;"
[13:30] <LonelyDanbo> god, I don't know what I'm doing with this USB stick. did I fix it? Do I need to do more?
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> LonelyDanbo, Was this a result of dd?
[13:31] <LonelyDanbo> Paddy_NI, uh... right now I'm trying to re-write the ISO to it. just a sec.
[13:34] <LonelyDanbo> oh god. what does "dd" do by itself? it's just hanging.
[13:34] <badbodh> patience soldier. dd extracts the iso to usb
[13:34] <badbodh> takes time
[13:35] <badbodh> go shoot some kittens, come back after 10-15 minutes
[13:35] <LonelyDanbo> what iso? I didn't tell it to use an iso. I just typed "dd" by itself.
[13:35] <badbodh> lol
[13:35] <badbodh> just 'dd' ? no source/target ?
[13:35] <LonelyDanbo> yeah.
[13:35] <badbodh> ctrl-c it
[13:36] <LonelyDanbo> the previous command where someone told me to do "sudo dd if=xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync" seems to have worked.
[13:37] <badbodh> usually dd is used for creating live-usb, dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/usb
[13:37] <dxl> ?
[13:37] <badbodh> sounds legit
[13:37] <impalle> sometimes I see "&sync" used - what's it for?
[13:37] <wtm_iphone> <How to use dd> *Don't run the follow commands!!!!!* sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda      # xD
[13:37] <ubuntu824> Alright, so apparently I can use gparted from in ubuntu demo. Now I just need to resize my partitions.
[13:38] <k1l_> impalle: to clean the cache and make sure all data is written on the usb device
[13:38] <impalle> k1l_: ah thx
[13:38] <LonelyDanbo> well... I guess I'll reboot and try this. see if it's any different or works at all. I wish I had two computers so I wouldn't have to spend time rebooting when things don't work.
[13:39] <badbodh> run 'man dd' to see what dd can do
[13:39] <helo> anyone know why gvfs-udisks-volume-monitor process would be using 500MB+ of resident memory?
[13:39] <helo> it's using more than any other process 0_o
[13:40] <anthonym> Nice, wine works great now.
[13:41] <helo> if i -HUP it, will it reload without breaking anything?
[13:45] <ubuntu824> Wait... to make a new partition, why is the size limited so much?