[00:26] <rcj> infinity, bdmurray? ^
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.542.4]
[04:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.525.25]
[04:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.408.47]
[06:49] <marcustomlinson> hi sil2100, if you have any free cycles to today, please could you have a look at my libreoffice SRUs for xenial and bionic?
[07:03] <sil2100> marcustomlinson: hey! Sure thing
[07:03] <marcustomlinson> sil2100: thanks!
[07:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-9 (disco-proposed/main) [9-20190402-1ubuntu1 => 9.1.0-2ubuntu2~19.04] (core) (sync)
[07:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-9-cross (disco-proposed/main) [4ubuntu4 => 4ubuntu4.1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[07:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-9-cross-ports (disco-proposed/universe) [3ubuntu4 => 3ubuntu4.1] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:34] <mwhudson> sil2100: could you also look at releasing containerd/docker.io/runc for bionic and cosmic? :)
[08:38] <sil2100> mwhudson: doing it just now
[08:39] <sil2100> docker.io got copied, but then I'm getting timeouts all the time ;/ So will take a moment
[08:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.6.0-0ubuntu7.3]
[09:01]  * Laney forgot about the proposed-migration config mangling that happens in b1
[09:01] <Laney> was getting angry that my changes kept being reverted
[09:17] <sil2100> Laney: as for the SRU regression messaging, thinking about it now I might want to add one thing before we switch it from dry-run to a normal one
[09:17] <sil2100> Laney: since I guess we want to only do this for stable series
[09:18] <sil2100> I'll prep something for that today
[09:28] <Laney> sil2100: you mean to the text?
[09:28] <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/bionic/2019-05-23/09:14:21.log btw ;-)
[09:28] <Laney> (hopefully fixed)
[09:29] <sil2100> Laney: I mean not commenting on bugs from the current development release, since that makes no sense there
[09:29] <sil2100> Ouchie
[09:31] <Laney> sil2100: oh yeah, that's handled in britney1, just turning the config on for the right releases only
[09:31] <Laney> like we do for the email policy already
[10:02] <Laney> sil2100: ok https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/disco/2019-05-23/09:52:22.log
[10:02] <Laney> now why didn't it try to send for libseccomp?
[10:04] <sil2100> Laney: let me try investigating that - most important thing is that it's not exploding anymore ;p
[10:05] <sil2100> Laney: I'll look at that so that you don't have to waste any time
[10:07] <Laney> thanks ♥
[10:15] <sil2100> Laney: thanks for shepherding it to production!
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-16.17~18.04.1] (kernel)
[11:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-16.17~18.04.1] (kernel)
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-16.17~18.04.1] (kernel)
[11:06] <Laney> sil2100: the state file doesn't seem to be working either, it's emailing every run
[11:09] <Laney> oh yes save_progress() bails out in that case
[11:14] <Laney> hmm not sure about this .new logic on a second look; what's it trying to protect against?
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (bionic-proposed/universe) [20190315-0ubuntu1~18.04.0 => 20190521-0ubuntu1~18.04.0] (ubuntu-cloud)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (disco-proposed/main) [20190315-0ubuntu1~19.04.0 => 20190521-0ubuntu1~19.04.0] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (cosmic-proposed/main) [20190315-0ubuntu1~18.10.0 => 20190521-0ubuntu1~18.10.0] (ubuntu-cloud)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (xenial-proposed/universe) [20190315-0ubuntu1~16.04.0 => 20190521-0ubuntu1~16.04.0] (ubuntu-cloud)
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: finalrd (bionic-proposed/primary) [3~ubuntu18.04.0]
[13:25] <rbalint> xnox, ^ \o/
[13:26] <rbalint> sil2100, could you please accept the gce-compute-image-packages packages?
[13:27] <xnox> rbalint:  heh. thanks. but like NEW queue in stable releases is typically ignored, so i expect for like bionic to go EOESM before it gets accepted.
[13:33] <rbalint> xnox, it is quite important to fix shutdown i can't believe it won't be accepted quickly
[14:02] <sil2100> rbalint: I'll try
[14:10] <sil2100> marcustomlinson: regarding libreoffice - for bionic I don't see libreoffice-l10n, is it not needed?
[14:10] <marcustomlinson> sil2100: not needed no
[14:11] <sil2100> marcustomlinson: ACK
[14:12] <sil2100> Laney: yeah, I see some more unneeded leftover code I need to prune ;/ Will push fixes after my SRU shift
[14:14] <Laney> sil2100: ok :-)
[14:14] <Laney> I've stopped looking at it anyway so I'll not be pointing anything else out right now
[14:14] <Laney> :P
[14:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gst-plugins-good1.0 (bionic-security/main) [1.14.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1 => 1.14.0-1ubuntu1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server) (sync)
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-plugins-good1.0 [sync] (bionic-security) [1.14.0-1ubuntu1]
[14:26] <Laney> what
[14:48] <sil2100> Laney: shhh, you didn't see anything o/
[14:49] <sil2100> Laney: but seriously, I had to promote one of it's binaries to main, but we only had gst-plugins-good1.0 in bionic release and -updates
[14:50] <sil2100> Laney: didn't want to cause a mismatch for only promoting the one in -updates, so I bin-copied release to security and promoted the binary in both pockets to main
[14:50] <sil2100> (since the release pocket is immutable)
[14:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:6.0.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:51] <Laney> for that libreoffice upload right?
[14:52] <sil2100> Yeah
[14:52] <sil2100> The source is already in main, but the needed binary was not
[14:53] <Laney> I guess if that SRU is heading for -security it makes sense
[14:55] <sil2100> Laney: it's not going there actually, but my thinking here is: if I only promoted the -updates one and security would want to release a libreoffice security update, we might forget that the binary is not in main for -security and get a mismatch then
[14:56] <sil2100> So I preferred to promote in all the pockets, since sooner or later a new libreoffice in -security might appear
[14:56] <sil2100> Possibly unneeded, but oh well
[14:59] <Laney> 🕺
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial7]
[14:59] <Laney> sil2100: I can understand the reasoning actually, since the tooling there isn't very good it'd be easy to miss next time
[15:12] <marcustomlinson> sil2100: thank you!
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I'm working on figuring out how we differ from xubuntu in regards to bug 1830201. Can you shed some light on this?
[16:28] <Eickmeyer> We = Ubuntu Studio
[16:36] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  well, maybe you don't. the code that was done in ubiquity is this one:
[16:37] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/commit/?id=40ed9a796bc4c06d4409944d4b22766dc2d4790b
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I've been inspecting our default panel layouts and have discovered some differences, but I don't know if it's related.
[16:38] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  so that bit says, that during maybe-ubiquity or only-ubiquity do not launch panel app if
[16:38] <xnox> xfwm4 is the wm_cmd
[16:38] <xnox> and studio i guess uese xfwm4 for ubuntu-dm
[16:38] <xnox> and thus i guess you don't use panel app
[16:38] <xnox> subsequently that panel is empty if there are no indicators available.
[16:39] <xnox> which xubuntu unseeded.
[16:39] <Eickmeyer> Correct. We use Xfce as the desktop, therefore this shouldn't apply to us at all. We're more closely related to Xubuntu in this respect.
[16:39] <xnox> they still seed something-something-app-indicator such that any weird 3rd party things can publish into panel, just nothing by default in neither live or ubiquity-dm
[16:39] <Eickmeyer> Studio has used Xfce since 12.04.
[16:39] <xnox> ack
[16:39] <xnox> so i guess studio is out, but let me check seeds, one sec.
[16:39] <Eickmeyer> k
[16:40] <xnox> $ grep indicator */* 2>/dev/null | grep -e xubuntu -e studio
[16:40] <xnox> ubuntustudio/desktop: * (indicator-messages)
[16:40] <xnox> ubuntustudio/desktop-core: * (xfce4-indicator-plugin)
[16:40] <xnox> ubuntustudio/desktop-core: * (indicator-application)
[16:40] <xnox> ubuntustudio/desktop-core: * (indicator-sound)
[16:41] <xnox> xubuntu/core: * (xfce4-indicator-plugin)
[16:41] <xnox> xubuntu/desktop: * (indicator-messages)
[16:41] <xnox> so slight difference of studio recommending -mesages and -sound which xubuntu i guess dropped
[16:41] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  maybe you want to trace that, and see if you'd like to also drop that.
[16:41] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  but at least there is no action on your part needed for the panel seed then.
[16:42] <Eickmeyer> xnox: ack. I'll invalidate the bug for us, and we just decided that it's best to work on this now rather than during the 20.04 cycle irt -application and -sound.
[16:43] <xnox> sorry -sound & -application
[16:43] <xnox> cool!
[16:43] <Eickmeyer> Thanks!
[16:43] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  note canonical no longer uses, nor maintains indicator-* stack. It would be nice to remove them from the archive, but we can't as it's still seeded in flavours.
[16:44] <Eickmeyer> xnox: ack, as soon as we get the panel layout synced with Xubuntu we can likely drop the indicator-* stack.
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: monero [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gke-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1033.35]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-16.17~18.04.1]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-16.17~18.04.1]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-16.17~18.04.1]
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[19:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: monero [armhf] (eoan-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[20:08] <rcj> Can I get an SRU member to review livecd-rootfs in the upload queue for disco?
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted monero [armhf] (eoan-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [i386] (eoan-proposed) [3.4.8+dfsg-1]
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [3.4.8+dfsg-1]
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed) [3.4.8+dfsg-1]
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted monero [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [3.4.8+dfsg-1]
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted monero [i386] (eoan-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[20:27] <vorlon> rcj: wasn't disco going to get another fix to magic-proxy?
[20:29] <rcj> vorlon: Oh yeah, I thought it was in there.  Okay, so I need an upload of https://code.launchpad.net/~rcj/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/367729
[20:29] <rcj> drat
[20:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (disco-proposed/main) [2.578.2 => 2.578.4] (desktop-core)
[20:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected livecd-rootfs [source] (disco-proposed) [2.578.3]
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (disco-proposed) [2.578.4]
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubiquity [i386] (eoan-proposed/main) [19.10.2] (core)
[21:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubiquity [amd64] (eoan-proposed/main) [19.10.2] (core)
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubiquity [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed/main) [19.10.2] (core)
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubiquity [arm64] (eoan-proposed/main) [19.10.2] (core)
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubiquity [armhf] (eoan-proposed/main) [19.10.2] (core)
[21:43] <rcj> vorlon: Thank you
[22:02] <vorlon> rcj: n/p


[02:29] <user|61780> hello
[04:41] <batteronizer> Hi, I've checked "Hide window on startup" in Konversation settings but it still shows it's window when login.
[04:41] <batteronizer> I'm on Kubuntu 18.04, should I report a bug?
[04:48] <valorie> batteronizer: do you still have it open when you shut down?
[04:49] <batteronizer> valorie: Nope
[04:49] <valorie> and have you chosen to start up the same way you shut down?
[04:49] <valorie> ah, then yes, it is a bug
[04:49] <valorie> please report it on bugs.kde.org
[04:49] <batteronizer> Startup same way as shut down, yes
[04:49] <batteronizer> valorie: Cool thanks
[04:50] <valorie> doesn't sound like a packaging bug, but rather in Konversation itself
[04:50] <batteronizer> Yes, most def upstream
[09:03] <rik-shaw> curious if there will be a 5.13 dev/testing ppa for 18.04?
[09:04] <rik-shaw> Or would neon be a better base to track newer releases?
[09:22] <acheronuk> rik-shaw: yes, but that involves an upgrade of Qt away from the LTS version in 18.04, so have not fully decided where to put it yet
[10:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[10:05] <werner> Hi all, still in that "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." error. Konsole says: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qgtk2f9w69/ Any clues?
[11:23] <swy_> now what?
[11:26] <swy_> quit
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:40] <pcprog> hi
[13:41] <pcprog> who are you?
[13:42] <pcprog> hi
[13:42] <pcprog> knjbh
[14:47] <pan_> hey guys! I tried to install the ubuntu mate software centre via snap on kubuntu 18.04. Install went through fine but it does not start. No error message. Nothing. Any ideas?
[14:49] <pan_> I am no programmer, just a user.  Do I have to do something else to use snaps on Kubuntu 18.04?
[15:02] <pan_> hey guys! I tried to install the ubuntu mate software centre via snap on kubuntu 18.04. Install went through fine but it does not start. No error message. Nothing. Any ideas?
[15:03] <pan_> I am no programmer, just a user.  Do I have to do something else to use snaps on Kubuntu 18.04?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> !repeat | pan_
[15:14] <oerheks> pan what is the snap name of that mate software-center ?
[15:14] <oerheks> software-boutique  ??
[15:15] <oerheks> i get an error while trying to install ...
[15:16] <oerheks> This revision of snap "software-boutique" was published using classic confinement and thus may perform arbitrary system changes outside of the security sandbox that snaps are usually confined to, which may put your system at risk. If you understand and want to proceed repeat the command including  --classic.
[15:16] <oerheks> that means > no go, you are on your own
[15:52] <pan_> .
[17:32] <batteronizer> The gcc installed on my system is gcc-7 but somehow the evironment variable CC is set to gcc-4.9
[17:32] <batteronizer> Where else could I look to find it?
[17:33] <batteronizer> I couldn't find it in my bashrc, bash_aliases or profile
[20:13] <R13ose> How do I keep everything I has updated, installed and done on a live usb so if my computer shuts down, I can keep going?
[21:33] <mparillo_> R13ose: I have not done it myself, but I think you want to google for live usb persistence
[22:14] <R13ose> mparillo_: what would that do?


[07:41] <Burgundavia> mdke: you around?
[07:54] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: he's never around when you need him. Darn time zones ;-)
[08:02] <Burgundavia> ] yep
[11:34] <mdke> Burgundavia: hi
[11:35] <Burgundavia> mdke: ya, what I needed you for has now past. Sorry about pinging you
[11:35] <mdke> no worries
[12:52] <mdke> mpt: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu-help ?
[01:30] <mpt> mdke, "Registered ... 2005-07-23"
[01:30] <mpt> It's obsolete, but I can't delete it
[03:08] <kbrooks> ping
[03:09] <kbrooks> is anbyone here?
[03:50] <mdke> mpt: gotcha
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #99463 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Wrong reference to a button in add-applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99463
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #99473 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Wrong reference in keeping-safe document" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99473
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #99474 in ubuntu-doc "Outdated instructions in Desktop Guide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99474
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #99480 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Not translatable documents in (k)ubuntu-docs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99480


[21:21] <avihayb> then you increase the taskbar size, untill th eicons stack
[21:22] <eagles05> sneedly: this is my site and its still a major work in progress but it is focusing on people just like you who r brand new to linux
[21:22] <eagles05> sneedly: http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com if u like what you see plz sign up
[21:22] <avihayb> then you decrease it's size until just before it turns into one line again. some experimentation might be required
[21:23] <mikesa81> avihayb: ok, thanks I did that and it works but I was curious if there was another way because they stacked when i first installed then when i restarted the font changed and the icons no longer stacked.. thanks
[21:23] <mikesa81> avihayb: 52px works for me
[21:23] <avihayb> mikesa81: you can probebly decrease it a few pixels
[21:24] <mikesa81> avihayb: but now the icons on the left have got even smaller
[21:24] <avihayb> mikesa81: you can readd them
[21:24] <avihayb> if it comes to that
[21:25] <sneedly> eagles05: thanks im gonna need some help with dual head after i get this thing reloaded.  ill peruse the site now though.
[21:25] <mikesa81> avihayb: funny... it was originally at 48px all on one row, i set it to 52px and it was then on two rows, now i reduce it back to 48px and it's on two rows... confusing.
[21:25] <geos_de> hi. I'm trying to write an KDE-App which connects to a sqlite database. Is here any developer who can look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/15403/ and tell me what's wrong? Using Kubuntu Hardy and KDE3.5.9
[21:25] <avihayb> mikesa81: Yhe, I know
[21:25] <eagles05> sneedly: its still missing lots
[21:26] <mikesa81> avihayb: i hope it'll stay that way after i restart.
[21:26] <eagles05> sneedly: all it has once u sign up is a forum which you have to sign up for that as well but its for security measures
[21:26] <avihayb> mikesa81: mine dose
[21:26] <avihayb> does*
[21:27] <avihayb> eagles05: what do you or your company planing on doing with neural networks?
[21:27] <eagles05> avihayb: its part of the degree im studying for
[21:28] <eagles05> avihayb: its offered as half credits in my last yr
[21:28] <eagles05> avihayb: i have ideas to use em for robotics
[21:28] <eagles05> then again i have been watching too much star trek
[21:28] <avihayb> :->
[21:28] <eagles05> lol
[21:28] <eagles05> actually my friend and i are starting on that right now
[21:29] <eagles05> testing out some linux based voice recognition
[21:29] <eagles05> !festival | avihayb
[21:29] <eagles05> !info festival | avihayb
[21:29] <mikesa81> avihayb: ok cool. looks like the icon size for the quick launch can be configured but not the running app icons
[21:30] <avihayb> NN has some habit to go haywire if it gets some unfemilier outputs, make sure your bot has a remote shutdown button...
[21:30] <sneedly> eagles05: sounds sweet, have you heard of the monkeys using bionic arms
[21:30] <sneedly> maybe they are chimps
[21:30] <eagles05> sneedly: no
[21:30] <eagles05> btw guys if we going to talk bout this lets head to offtopic
[21:30] <eagles05> #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:31] <avihayb> outputs->inputs
[21:31] <sneedly> true ill be back after a fresh install
[21:31] <eagles05> sneedly: ok lol
[21:31] <eagles05> avihayb: coming into offtopic
[21:31] <sneedly> eagles05: forgot about the download time ill be there
[21:32] <eagles05> sneedly: ok lol
[21:37] <deejaypip> hey, I tried installing kubuntu on my ubuntu, but now i want to uninstall it. how do i do so?
[21:37] <Dragonath> is restricted-manager supposed to be installed on 8.04 by default?
[21:37] <Dragonath> if it is, then how can I access it
[21:37] <jhutchins_wk> Dragonath: Probably not.
[21:37] <slow-motion> hi
[21:38] <Dragonath> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <-- this howto seems to assume it is
[21:38] <Dragonath> and after installing I did see it pop up
[21:38] <Dragonath> but now it's disappeared :)
[21:39] <eric_> Hi , I have set up my bind9 dns to resolve addresses , however if i point a host to it, and use a web explorer it does not resolve, any help. I am able to resolve on the server itself
[21:39] <deejaypip> Also, the power off and restart options both have disappeared
[21:41] <iphone> how do i add a new kdm theme and switch to it?
[21:42] <sigma_1234> are the intrepid or hardy kde4 beta 1 packages available yet?
[21:42] <eagles05> sigma_1234: kubuntu+1
[21:42] <iphone> in kde 359
[21:42] <sigma_1234> well are they?
[21:43] <eagles05> sigma_1234: i dunno
[21:43] <eagles05> sigma_1234: all i was told in +1 that you have to change the sources list
[21:44] <sigma_1234> ubuntu+1
[21:44] <eagles05> yep
[21:45] <eagles05> sigma_1234: its still pre alpha software according to +1
[21:46] <sigma_1234> yeah i know that but the kde info page said that kubuntu packages would be appearing
[21:47] <sigma_1234> sure is taking a while. all the other distros have it
[21:47] <eagles05> hummm
[21:47] <khaije1> looking for something to convert proprietary formats to open one simply and with minimal loss, any recommendations?
[21:47] <eagles05> sigma_1234: u could always compile from source
[21:48] <eagles05> *you
[21:48] <sigma_1234> that could take a while not to mention be a bit dangerous
[21:49] <eagles05> sigma_1234: you are wanting to play with fire why not just wait
[21:49] <sigma_1234> i prefer prebuilt packages
[21:49] <sigma_1234> wait for the final kde4.1?
[21:50] <eagles05> ya or do u have the pre released software repos enabled
[21:50] <jasig> hi, i've been planning on installing my first linux soon, im planning on using kubuntu 8.04, is that a good choice for a someone whos new to linux? :>
[21:51] <avihayb> I think it is
[21:51] <sigma_1234> nope whats the deb code for them?
[21:51] <eagles05> jasig: i think it is and im working on a site for people new to linux
[21:51] <eagles05> sigma_1234: open up adept
[21:51] <jasig> is the site already online in some parts?
[21:51] <jasig> or just working on it?
[21:51] <avihayb> jasig: I think it's a good choice
[21:51] <eagles05> jasig: has a forum and ill be working on it in my down time at work tomorrow
[21:51] <sigma_1234> yeah just give me the address of the repo. i know how to add it
[21:51] <eagles05> jasig: http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com
[21:52] <eagles05> sigma_1234: i used adept to add the repos
[21:52] <jasig> alright, thank you, guess itll help me alot
[21:52] <eagles05> jasig: im goign to try and work on how to's soon
[21:52] <Dragonath> right, so I'm trying to install ATI drivers, (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) - however doing "sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko" gives me an error: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-17-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[21:52] <Dragonath> what's wrong?
[21:53] <eagles05> Dragonath: y dont u just use the hardware drivers manager under system
[21:53] <sigma_1234> eagles05: whats the name of the repo?
[21:53] <eagles05> Dragonath: it automatically takes care of the installation of the restricted ati driver
[21:53] <eagles05> sigma_1234: let me check
[21:53] <Dragonath> eagles05: because the howto said to do the commands after I enable the driver
[21:54] <avihayb> Dragonath: are you sure insmod is the right command? maybe you should use modprob ?
[21:54] <eagles05> Dragonath: forget all that there is no need to do that anymore
[21:54] <Dragonath> well I'm following the howto
[21:54] <Dragonath> is it out of date then?
[21:54] <eagles05> sigma_1234: there in adept there r 2 options for pre released and unsupported repos that u can enable in adept
[21:54] <eagles05> Dragonath: i used to use that in edgy and feisty but since gutsy havent had the need to
[21:55] <avihayb> well, I don't know the diffrence between the to, or what they realy do, I gusst have a general direction on that... stick with the howto...
[21:55] <eagles05> avihayb: i used my method and it worked for me
[21:55] <eagles05> using the hardware driver manager
[21:56] <eagles05> it downloads the appropriate pkg and installs it as required
[21:56] <Dragonath> I've had a history of easy things not working out for me :)
[21:56] <eagles05> Dragonath: thats strange this is the feature i enjoy the most thats why i have stuck with kubuntu
[21:56] <eagles05> is the ease of getting my bcm4306 wifi card setup as well as my ati
[21:56] <venik> All of a sudden I am getting an error: Cannot talk to Klauncher!
[21:57] <venik> something is REALLY screwy with this OS
[21:57] <eagles05> venik: O_o did u upgrade from a previous version of kubuntu
[21:58] <venik> I rebooted, and now it does not see my usb mouse and keyboard.  When I try to run the System Settings, it never opens
[21:58] <venik> fresh install
[21:58] <eagles05> hummm
[21:58] <eagles05> is this a desktop or laptop
[21:58] <venik> teh upgrade did not work
[21:58] <eagles05> ok
[21:58] <venik> desktop
[21:58] <venik> Dell 4550
[21:58] <lee_> hi
[21:58] <eagles05> how old is the desktop
[21:58] <venik> 3 years or so
[21:58] <sigma_1234> eagles05: are you sure kde 4.1 beta 1 is there?
[21:59] <eagles05> im running the alpha of firefox 3 so it has to be in there unless it hasnt been packaged yet
[21:59] <lee_> hello i have a problem whit my video card
[22:00] <eagles05> venik: ok u using the normal cd to install
[22:00] <venik> I am using yes
[22:00] <eagles05> venik: u idnt boot onto the live cd again did u
[22:00] <eagles05> *didnt you
[22:01] <venik> no
[22:01] <deejaypip> okay, i installed kubuntu onto ubuntu using sudo apt-get install kde-desktop but now I want to get rid of it. How?
[22:01] <jhutchins_wk> !puregnome | deejaypip
[22:01] <eagles05> venik: i would download the alternate cd installation and try reinstall it again
[22:02] <deejaypip> thanks jhutchins_wk and ubottu
[22:02] <venik> after all that software I installed?????????????????????????
[22:03] <eagles05> venik: that will be a last resort but there has to be something that you installed that borked some of the hardware
[22:03] <eagles05> venik: sorry to leave u like this but i got to go to sleep i got a long day at work tomorrow
[22:03] <jhutchins_wk> venik: Is it working in console?
[22:03] <venik> yes, but not through the keyboard
[22:09] <eric_> hi someone help me with my bind9 dns resolver, i can resolve on my self ( i am browsing on my dns server with myself as the dns) but when i point others to me, no success -- any help :- (
[22:15] <bachir> hi all
[22:16] <slow-motion> n8
[22:19] <jhutchins_wk> eric_: There's a BIND howto at http://tldp.org
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> eric_: Their System Administrator's Guide also has a section on it.
[22:20] <BluesKaj> howdy
[22:21] <aidan__> anyone know default netgear passwords?
[22:22] <Val_0> aidan__, admin/1234 or admin/password
[22:28] <venik> are other people having trouble with USB keyboards/mice?
[22:28] <venik> all I did was reboot!
[22:29] <venik> and why am I getting this error: Cannot communicate with Klaunch!
[22:30] <linkinxp> hello!!
[22:30] <linkinxp> i have no sound!!! and sudo alsa foce-reload doesnt work!! HELP!!!!!
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> !sound
[22:31] <linkinxp> ty
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> linkinxp: Those may be a bit obsolete now that we're fighting with pulseaudio, but they're a good start.
[22:33] <linkinxp> jhutchins,  actually it was simpler than that! it was the PCM low
[22:33] <linkinxp> :(
[22:33] <linkinxp> thanks anyway
[22:33] <linkinxp> jhutchins,  i'm using Gnome but noone there helped me
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Heh.
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> I had one where I just had to bump the ballance off center slightly and it would work.
[22:33] <linkinxp> lol
[22:35] <Nyad> Hi I am logged into kubuntu but I need to reinstall grub. Is it possible to do this whilst in kubuntu hardy? I installed gutsy onto another partition so I could use it's grub to get here, but I want to use the hardy grub again
[22:37] <ubunturos> !multiboot
[22:37] <ubunturos> !update
[22:38] <ubunturos> ok, so, this is a cross-distro question. I installed fedora, and want to add an entry to menu.lst of Kubuntu. However, at the end, a message appears, booting failed
[22:38] <ubunturos> where am I going wrong
[22:38] <simas> hello mates! 8]
[22:39] <simas> i just installed kubuntu 8.04
[22:39] <simas> and running konversation
[22:40] <_CrashMaster_> Dont worry
[22:40] <_CrashMaster_> Be Happy
[22:42] <Fujisan> can i get some help please how do i apply a gtk theme on  xchat on ubuntu?
[22:42] <BluesKaj> Fujisan, ask in #ubuntu
[22:43] <xxxxx> cuanta gente!!
[22:43] <UFilna> i am using kubuntu
[22:43] <UFilna> BlueDevil,
[22:44] <UFilna> xchat on kubuntu
[22:44] <UFilna> so thats why i ask
[22:44] <UFilna> here
[22:44] <UFilna> if you dont want to help me then dont
[22:44] <UFilna> but what you are doing now is the reason why people hate opensource BluesKaj
[22:44] <UFilna> bureaucracy
[22:46] <BluesKaj> !attitude | UFilna
[22:47] <UFilna> !attitude | BluesKaj
[22:47] <UFilna> volunteers doesnt mean you should frustrate and discourage users
[22:47] <macic> Hi
[22:47] <UFilna> and ubuntu told me to come here
[22:47] <macic> ~~
[22:47] <UFilna> after i asked
[22:48] <UFilna> and i said i used kubuntu
[22:48] <UFilna> so please stop your trolling
[22:48] <UFilna> BlueDevil,
[22:48] <UFilna> BluesKaj, *
[22:48] <BluesKaj> UF
[22:48] <UFilna> ignored
[22:48] <BluesKaj> UFilna, are you finished ?
[22:49] <mslot> How stable is KDE4.0 in Hardy?
[22:50] <BluesKaj> UFilna, try system settings/appearance/gtk styles & fonts ,
[22:50] <BluesKaj> mslot, not very
[22:50] <mslot> Is it worth trying? Or cant I install it through apt?
[22:50] <BluesKaj> for some it is
[22:51] <mslot> Okay. Thanks BluesKaj :)
[22:51] <BluesKaj> mslot, yes, but a package manager would prolly be better
[22:52] <BluesKaj> i fyou're not used to the cli , that is
[22:52] <mslot> adept.... Havent tried Kubuntu.  Thats the name of my grandfather)
[22:52] <BluesKaj> hehe
[22:52] <mslot> Adept. Not apt :)
[22:53] <BluesKaj> one can use apt as well :)
[22:53] <mslot> Yes. I have just installed my granfather on my computer.
[22:54] <BluesKaj> some of the OS names for (k)ubuntu are kinda lame IMO
[22:54] <BluesKaj> or releases rather
[22:54] <mslot> BluesKaj: Yes.
[22:54] <mslot> But I kinda like the buntu sorts allready.
[22:55] <BluesKaj> surely there better ones than hardy heron for the "H" series
[22:55] <aerith> I am guessing tablet support in kubuntu 7.10 is kinda nonexistant?
[22:56] <BluesKaj> I'd better stop this line of conversation before I'm chastised by the #offtopic cops :)
[22:56] <BluesKaj> !tablet | aerith
[22:57] <aerith> Hmmmm
[22:57] <BluesKaj> haven't heard many questions about tablet use here
[22:58] <aerith> All those posts in the forum not much help at all.
[22:58] <aerith> Besides I don't think alot of people use them with linux.
[22:58] <titan_> anyone installed lINUX on the PS3?
[22:59] <rav> hello. is it possible to install i386 packages on amd64? some sort of emulator or something like that?
[23:00] <titan_> so you want to install i386 in a virtual desktop on your amd64?
[23:00] <BluesKaj> all these tough questions at the slowest point in the day
[23:01] <Val_0> titan_:VMWare
[23:03] <Pennycook> rav: Some 32 bit packages can be run on 64 bit Ubuntu.  If you install ia32-libs  that'll give you the 32-bit libraries you need, and if you have a .deb you can use "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture filename.deb".
[23:04] <Walzmyn> Is there a channel for mozilla products?
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> #mozilla
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> IIRC
[23:04] <aidan__> error 16: Inconsistent filesystem, what does this mean?
[23:04] <Pennycook> Lots of popular 32 bit programs (like Skype, Firefox etc) probably have installation tutorials if you Googlefor them.
[23:04] <titan_> VAL_0 was that in reply to my PS3 question?
[23:05] <Walzmyn> nosrednaekim, that's an empty channel
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> off
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> rav: check out getlibs
[23:05] <Val_0> titan_, nope to your i386 question. It's a virtualization product that allows to create multiple virtual machines running different OSs
[23:05] <titan_> ooo it wasnt my question.. :)
[23:06] <titan_> it was RAV's
[23:06] <Nyad> Hi, I was installing grub and I told it to install to /dev/sda which I think is correct, but I also told it to install to /dev/sda1 which holds my windows partition. And now only parted can see it
[23:06] <Val_0> titan_, lol you totally right, i am appologize
[23:07] <Nyad> How do I fix the windows so I can boot it again?
[23:07] <rav> Pennycook: thanks!
[23:08] <Val_0> Nyad, what's the problem? how did you break it?
[23:08] <Gizmo77> hola
[23:09] <Nyad> I installed grub to sda1 which is the windows partition, I'm guessing it overwote the NT bootloader. How do I boot windows now?
[23:09] <Val_0> Nyad, windows xp cd/recover mode/console/fixmbr
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> Nyad: add a chainloaded entry to your grun
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> *grub
[23:10] <Val_0> Nyad, depending on the install there might be nothing left of your windows
[23:10] <Nyad> that's ok. I just backed up all my stuff a few days ago
[23:11] <Nyad> but surely grub wouldn't erase the stuff on the partition?
[23:11] <Val_0> fix your MBR and see if windows loads
[23:11] <Nyad> I suppose then I will have to reinstall grub again
[23:11] <Val_0> Nyad, nope it wouldn't but if you told it to repartion the drive prior to install then...
[23:11] <Nyad> I didn't
[23:12] <Walzmyn> Has anybody here tried to subscribe to the RSS feed off the main page kubuntu.org? I can't seem to get it to work
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> if you tell grub to install to a partition... I think it erase whatever is on that partition previously
[23:13] <sgraham> ok..where the hell did the periferials section bo
[23:13] <Nyad> Val_0, I tried to mount sda1 and it says it doesn't have a valid ntfs partition there
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> sgraham: its still in kcontrol...
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> Nyad: yep.. you wiped it then
[23:13] <Nyad> :(
[23:13] <Val_0> Nyad, yep ^ he's right
[23:14] <Nyad> for once I am pure linux on my machine :)
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> haha
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> not by intention though... so it don't count :P
[23:16] <aidan_> grub is showing multiple boot entries. I can boot into ubuntu something something 17 and ubuntu something something 16
[23:16] <aidan_> when I try 17, it says error 16: filesystem inconsistent or w/e
[23:16] <aidan_> when I try 16 its fine
[23:16] <genii> something something 17 is likely what you want
[23:16] <aidan_> so from 16, can I fix 17?
[23:17] <genii> yes
[23:17] <aidan_> yeah I cna't boot into 17
[23:17] <aidan_> i persume they're kernel versions?
[23:17] <sgraham> it doesn seem to have any effect on the mouse
[23:17] <josephine> hello evey1
[23:18] <genii> aidan_: Yes, different kernel versions
[23:19] <Val_0> has anyone here tried to d/l Kubuntu 8.04 the Remix version and managed to do so successfully?
[23:19] <josephine> no
[23:19] <josephine> i've tried 8.03
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> Val_0: yes
[23:20] <josephine> come on cookie, answer me
[23:20] <Val_0> nosrednaekim, how did you managed to do that?
[23:21] <aidan_> can I umount my hd without having to use a livecd or remotely?
[23:21] <josephine> no, not possible
[23:22] <genii> Yes it is possible.
[23:22] <Nyad> can I install 2 things simultaneously with apt-get?
[23:22] <genii> Nyad: Yes
[23:22] <aidan_> genii?
[23:22] <josephine> yes, u can,open 2 terminals
[23:22] <genii> Nyad: Just put multiple names eg: apt-get install a b c d e f g
[23:22] <aidan_> josephine: no? it says its in use if you do
[23:23] <josephine> nice try
[23:23] <genii> aidan_: You have to give the option to remount immediately if it's /
[23:23] <Nyad> you can't
[23:23] <Nyad> one app can only access the DB at a time
[23:23] <aidan_> Nyad: try one of the graphical package installers
[23:23] <josephine> what about multiple sessions
[23:23] <genii> aidan_: But you can do something like: sudo mount / -o rw,whateveroption,remount
[23:24] <mmorici> anyone here able to help me get my wifi card working????
[23:24] <aidan_> genii: ok I wanna fsck
[23:24] <genii> to remount / rw from ro for example
[23:24] <Nyad> josephine, you think if I went into a tty then I could do it?
[23:24] <aidan_> so that would be remount / fsck?
[23:24] <genii> aidan_: for that it cannot be mounted for a period of time. So you shuld do that from an exterior boot like livecd
[23:24] <josephine> in theory, u should be able to do it
[23:25] <aidan_> genii: bugger
[23:25] <aidan_> I don't have externel cd drive
[23:25] <aidan_> I guess I'll have to reinstall
[23:25] <mrksbrd> genii .....after your done doing what you are working on now could u help me get my wifi working????
[23:26] <aidan_> mrksbrd: get kde
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: I can help you...
[23:26] <aidan_> that gave me the options
[23:26] <genii> mrksbrd: Perhaps nosrednaekim can assist :)
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: actually, I can't ATM... but I'll be reight back in about 10 minutes
[23:26] <mrksbrd> running kubuntu, but not recognizing my internal wifi & video
[23:26] <mrksbrd> NOS...ok
[23:27] <josephine> mrksbrd: whats your wifi brand?
[23:27] <mrksbrd> i forget the command to find out ....it's been a while since i messed w/kubuntu
[23:28] <mrksbrd> is it lsusb?
[23:29] <josephine> laptop brand and model?
[23:29] <mrksbrd> hp dv9760
[23:29] <josephine> ok, lets see
[23:29] <genii> lspci normally. If it's usb based then lsusb may be more useful. When totally unknown lshw shows details of everything but needs to be examined for clues
[23:29] <mrksbrd> it's internal
[23:30] <genii> Probably lspci most useful then. Although mine is a weird Realtek thing thats an internal usb
[23:30] <mrksbrd> its a broadcom
[23:31] <mrksbrd> model #bcm4328
[23:31] <aidan_> can I make a netinst and add it to grub?
[23:32] <aidan_> so when I next reboot it'll download a new os?
[23:32] <josephine> mrksbrd: do this in a terminal: sudo iwconfig eth1
[23:32] <josephine> what do you get?
[23:33] <mrksbrd> "no such device"
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> hey all, is it posible to convert bootable cd iso to bootable dvd iso. I downloaded the cd iso but only have dvd media
[23:34] <josephine> mrksbrd: ok, here u got the drivers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616801
[23:35] <josephine> mrksbrd: look at this also. http://www.micahcarrick.com/11-04-2007/ubuntu-d830-install-notes.html
[23:36] <mrksbrd> ok let me check that out.....brb
[23:36] <genii> mrksrd: Any result of command: modprobe -l|grep bcm43xx                 ?
[23:37] <josephine> ActionParsnip: are u kidding me? u should be able to read a CD with a DVD drive. And yes, i have knppix in a DVD
[23:37] <genii> If no result install the restricted modules
[23:41]  * genii sips his coffee
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> back!
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> you got him covered genii?
[23:42] <josephine> mrksbrd
[23:42] <josephine> mrksbrd: any progress?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> josephine: no, you misunderstand. i want to burn the cd iso to a dvd after converting it
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> josephine: if i try to burn the cd iso to blank dvd media it doesnt allow it
[23:43] <mrksbrd> josephine.....still working on it
[23:44] <genii> nosrednaekim: Somewhat. Although work keeps needing me here
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> k
[23:44] <aidan_> I'm using netboot files (mini.iso, netboot.tar.gz, pxelinux.0) to make a grub entry
[23:45] <aidan_> 1. is this possible, 2. what config do I need in menu.lst to make this work?
[23:46] <mr-t> genii I had a bcm card with the 4306 chipset that I couldn't get working with the new 8.04 version worked ok only with the old deprecated driver
[23:46] <genii> mr-t: The broadcoms are notorious for problems
[23:46] <josephine> ActionParsnip: u r right, my bad. but i don't get why u want to burn a CD ISO in a DVD. your DVD drive should be able to read CDs
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> josephine: cos i will have to buy some blank cd media when i already have a few blank dvds around the place
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> i'm trying to avoid buying new medias if ican avoid
[23:49] <genii> ActionParsnip: loopmount the iso, then do a mkisofs on it to a dvd compliant iso.
[23:50] <genii> Then burn that
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> genii: aaah yes, makes sense
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> genii: cheers man :)
[23:53] <josephine> mrksbrd: any luck?
[23:55] <mrksbrd> yes the blue light is now on.....yahoooo
[23:55] <mrksbrd> now next on the list....video card
[23:55] <josephine> video card brand?
[23:56] <mrksbrd> hold on ....let me get it
[23:57] <mrksbrd> GeForce 7150M
[23:57] <mrksbrd>           vendor: nVidia Corporation
[23:57] <josephine> nice, lets see
[23:57] <mrksbrd> sorry about that guys
[23:58] <genii> ActionParsnip: np
[23:59] <josephine> mrksbrd: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767876
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: you tried this


[01:29] <mup> Bug #1769009 opened: Unable to deploy Precise with Bionic with ext4 filesystem <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769009>
[09:13] <mup> Bug #1769099 opened: [2.4, UI, regression] Deploy action shows options twice <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769099>
[11:52] <mup> Bug #1769123 opened: [2.4b3] web UI link error goes to old nodes page <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769123>
[12:56] <mup> Bug #1481261 changed: MAC address text field on Power section accepts wrong format <power> <ui> <MAAS:Fix Released by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481261>
[13:29] <mup> Bug #1683769 changed: [2.2.0rc2, UX Improvement] In the device details page, the take action dropdpwn button is not needed <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683769>
[13:29] <mup> Bug #1722910 changed: [2.3b1] In Devices->Interfaces when the focus is int he MAC address the Enter key opens the menu of the previous row <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by deadlight> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722910>
[13:45] <mup> Bug #1769139 opened: package maas-region-controller 2.4.0~beta2-6865-gec43e47e6-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: installed maas-region-controller package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 <apport-package> <bionic> <i386> <need-duplicate-check> <maas
[13:45] <mup> (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769139>
[14:05] <mup> Bug #1730972 changed: [2.3qa, UI] When the contextual menu is open and I scroll down the menu is still open and sits on top of the header <2.3qa> <ui> <ui-papercut> <MAAS:Fix Released by deadlight> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1730972>
[14:05] <mup> Bug #1731191 changed: [2.3rc2, UI] The padding of the icons in hardware testing is not right <2.3qa> <ui> <ui-papercut> <MAAS:Fix Released by deadlight> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731191>
[14:05] <mup> Bug #1731210 changed: [2.3rc2, UI] The padding of the metrics/ error text in the expanded hardware testing row is smaller than guidelines <2.3qa> <ui> <ui-papercut> <MAAS:Invalid by deadlight> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731210>
[14:08] <mup> Bug #1730972 opened: [2.3qa, UI] When the contextual menu is open and I scroll down the menu is still open and sits on top of the header <2.3qa> <ui> <ui-papercut> <MAAS:Fix Committed by deadlight> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1730972>
[14:08] <mup> Bug #1731191 opened: [2.3rc2, UI] The padding of the icons in hardware testing is not right <2.3qa> <ui> <ui-papercut> <MAAS:Fix Committed by deadlight> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731191>
[14:15] <mup> Bug #1769144 opened: Unable to commission node, ends up in an endless reboot cycle <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769144>
[17:10] <sigma_> hi, i have a problem with maas.   Error: Mount the root '/' filesystem to be able to deploy this node. this is the error message i get when i have rebooted a laptop. it downloads the kernel and the initrd, boots, does a bunch of stuff real quick. then it just shuts down
[17:10] <sigma_> any idea what could be wrong?
[19:11] <ltrager> sigma_: Look on the storage tab on the machine that isn't deploying. '/' needs to be defined there. If it isn't defined you can either configure yourself or recommission the machine to get the default settings
[19:27] <KingJ> Hmm, running in to a storage setup issue I can't work out. I've got 1x 120GB SSD and 2x 500GB HDD in a comissioned server. I've created a MD RAID1 across the two 500GB disks, and on that created a 1GB fat32 partition on /boot and 499GB partition used for bcache.
[19:28] <KingJ> However, MAAS is erroring with: "Error: This node cannot be deployed because it cannot boot from a bcache volume. Mount /boot on a non-bcache device to be able to deploy this node."
[19:29] <KingJ> Which well, doesn't seem to match up with what i've defined: https://i.imgur.com/2C282gG.jpg
[19:33] <KingJ> The error goes away though if create a /boot partition on one of the physical disks instead of md0 though
[19:47] <luckielordie> hi guys, I'm having trouble configuring a Pod
[19:47] <luckielordie> can anyone help me?
[19:48] <luckielordie> I'm getting " Add pod Name  Pod type  Virsh address  Virsh password (optional)      Failed talking to pod: Failed to login to virsh console" When I try to create the Pod
[19:49] <luckielordie> I can still run the command to list the virsh machines remotely and it works fine


[00:02] <rrnwexec> jono: please email me over a number to reach you. i'll call in.
[00:04] <jono> rrnwexec, going to be a few mins late, one sec
[00:04] <jono> or two mins
[00:04] <jono> lol
[05:19] <nigelb> Good morning
[05:32] <nigelb> ScottL: that's when we'll actually figure out why mumble isn't working for jono ;)
[05:33] <jono> hey nigelb
[05:33] <jono> dropped you an email re.  I wanted to find the ubuntu lucid ami and the link was there right no the front page!
[09:03] <dpm> hey kim0
[09:03] <kim0> nigelb: awesome :) glad it helped
[09:04] <nigelb> :)
[11:28] <koolhead11> kim0, hey
[11:28] <kim0> koolhead11: hey man
[11:28] <koolhead11> wordpress does not give any Xhml export option
[11:28] <koolhead11> *xhtml
[11:28] <koolhead11> :(
[11:31] <kim0> koolhead11: really ? what about xml
[11:31] <kim0> what does it export to then!
[11:32] <koolhead11> yes xml export it does
[11:34] <kim0> koolhead11: hmm that might be good enough .. let's inform huats about that, and see where we can go
[11:34] <kim0> koolhead11: is xml the only thing it can export to? if so, then send him that export
[11:34] <koolhead11> ok
[11:34] <kim0> koolhead11: are you personally handling this ?
[11:36] <koolhead11> hello kiranmurari
[11:40] <kiranmurari> koolhead11: Hi
[11:40] <koolhead11> kim0, kiranmurari  my office colligue  and he is handling the openstack book project. he will be helping you on the same :)
[11:40] <kim0> Hi kiran .. I remember reading lots of useful info on your blog :)
[11:41] <kiranmurari> Thx... kim0
[11:41] <kim0> kiranmurari: so you're checking on the wordpress export thing ? is it xml only ?
[11:41] <kiranmurari> Wordpress gives only XML export option
[11:41] <koolhead11> hi nigelb
[11:42] <kim0> kiranmurari: well that should be good enough, but it's really up to Chris (huats) to decide
[11:42] <kim0> kiranmurari: could you export as xml since it's the only option, and email us the results
[11:42] <kim0> xml should be readable in almost any langauge thus easily scriptable
[11:42] <kiranmurari> kim0, the XML is on the way to your inbox :)
[11:42] <kim0> kiranmurari: thanks man for all the help .. the world appreciates your work :)
[11:43] <kim0> kiranmurari: please make sure chris gets it as well .. thanks
[11:44] <kiranmurari> kim0: i have done a 'reply all' to the thread
[11:44] <kim0> kiranmurari: awesome :)
[11:49] <kiranmurari> kim0: can you please confirm if you have received the mail
[11:49] <kim0> kiranmurari: yes I just did
[11:50] <kiranmurari> kim0: great!
[11:50] <kim0> kiranmurari: thanks once more .. xml attached
[11:50] <kiranmurari> kim0: welcome
[13:22] <cjohnston> mornin
[14:15] <nigelb> w00t
[14:15] <nigelb> https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o
[14:15] <nigelb> the attendee list is now sorted by name perfectly :D
[15:48] <jcastro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1759589
[15:48] <jcastro> hah!
[15:55] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:55] <kim0> o/
[15:56] <jono> hey folks
[15:56] <jono> :-)
[15:57] <czajkowski> yay for ice cream
[15:57] <czajkowski> did not know London gets this sticky icky hot
[15:57] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:57] <jono> dholbach, can we book a call for thu/fri?
[15:57] <jono> given we missed ours this week
[15:57] <jono> oops fri
[15:57] <jono> tomorrow is a hol over there
[15:58] <dholbach> jono, sure
[15:58] <jono> dholbach, lets do 4.30 UK
[15:58] <jono> does that work?
[15:58] <dholbach> yep
[15:58] <mhall119> cool, both AlanBell and czajkowski are on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-Q7hTKCws&NR=1
[15:58] <jono> thanks, pal
[15:59] <dholbach> awesome
[15:59] <jono> mhall119, yeah, saw that yesterday, pretty cool :-)
[15:59] <jono> dholbach, dpm, kim0, jcastro let's roll
[15:59]  * mhall119 loves the celebrate ubuntu initiative
[16:00] <dpm> jono, \o/
[16:00]  * popey hasn't heard of the celebrate ubuntu initiative
[16:01] <dholbach> evil skype doesn't show anyone of you as online - let me restart
[16:01] <kim0> jono: add me again please
[16:01] <dholbach> ah, here we go
[16:01] <Pici> 6.06 was released 5 years ago today!
[16:04] <mhall119> popey: http://www.youtube.com/user/celebrateubuntu
[16:05] <popey> mhall119: is it more than just a youtube channel?
[16:06] <mhall119> popey: not sure
[16:07] <mhall119> I think it's something they came up with at UDS, so the youtube channel may be all that exists so far
[16:07] <popey> ah
[16:08] <mhall119> popey: http://design.canonical.com/2011/05/celebrate-ubuntu/
[16:10] <popey> ta
[16:33] <jcastro> nhandler: you're redoing the entire DEX stuff?
[16:34] <jcastro> I have a work item to find someone to help the dex team on their web pages
[16:34] <jcastro> but it looks like you're already doing that.
[16:36] <nigelb> jcastro: can I stop summit from throwing those scary tracebacks?
[16:36] <jcastro> sure?
[16:36] <nigelb> jcastro: But that means, to debug those issues someone will have to look at the logs
[16:37] <nigelb> someone = Daviey / james_w
[16:47] <dholbach> james_w, if you're running out of good tunes - this is a nice mix as well: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0117gtw :)
[16:48] <nigelb> someone saw james_w's lightning talk and asked me "who's that guy who looks like he's out of star trek?"
[16:51] <maco> haha
[17:09] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you!
[17:10]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:16] <mhall119> jono: nigelb: are we doing a call today or is it still scheduled for tomorrow?
[17:19] <jono> mhall119, today
[17:19] <jono> mhall119, 2pm Pac
[17:24] <mhall119> ok
[17:30] <akgraner> dpm, just forwarded you an email about UWN and suggested translation timelines...
[17:34] <dpm> akgraner, just read it, thanks, the translation timelines sound good to me
[17:35] <czajkowski> akgraner: you sound like your on speed on that email to u friendly I can almost hear the hyperness :)
[17:39] <akgraner> czajkowski, I am super excited about that program :-)
[17:39] <akgraner> dpm, thanks!
[17:40] <akgraner> czajkowski, just getting back to being me :-)
[17:40] <akgraner> I need a NO DRAMA zone!
[17:40] <czajkowski> yea :)
[17:44] <mhall119> sudo apt-get remove --purge drama
[17:45] <czajkowski> mhall119: can i get me some of that too
[18:12] <mhall119> apt says no
[18:14] <czajkowski> :(
[18:14] <czajkowski> boo
[18:16] <jcastro> mhall119: ok I've trimmed the admin/superuser access down on summit
[18:16] <mhall119> \o/
[18:20]  * nigelb hugs jcastro
[18:39] <cjohnston> yay jcastro !
[18:40] <cjohnston> jcastro: I assume that you saw or are aware that we are going to work on making different access levels for track leads and others who need certain permissions?
[18:56] <jcastro> cjohnston: yeah
[18:56] <jcastro> just lmk when you guys get to that part
[18:57] <cjohnston> ok
[19:04] <nigelb> jcastro: yeah, I need to talk to you about that some day soon
[19:06] <nigelb> jcastro: basically we need to form a matrix of permissions.
[19:06] <nigelb> when is the earliest that you have time?
[19:06] <jcastro> We only really need to just have it obey ~uds-organizers
[19:07] <nigelb> jcastro: so ~uds-organizers become admins?
[19:08] <jcastro> yeah
[19:08] <jcastro> it's basically a copy of that list in summit anyway
[19:08] <jcastro> if all the permissions can come from launchpad that would be ideal
[19:09] <mhall119> nigelb: no permissions matrix
[19:09] <nigelb> mhall119: Everyone becomes superadmin is better?
[19:10] <nigelb> Really, what was Keybuk smoking when he wrote summit? Specifically render.ph
[19:10] <nigelb> *py
[19:10] <mhall119> no, role-based permissions is better
[19:10] <nigelb> mhall119: wait, yeah. I wanted a permission matrix based on roles
[19:10] <jcastro> it's easy
[19:11] <jcastro> admins = you guys
[19:11] <jcastro> ~uds-organizers = schedulers
[19:11] <nigelb> No, we can't be admins
[19:11] <jcastro> and then everyone else
[19:11] <nigelb> sponsorship
[19:11] <jcastro> admins = ISD
[19:11] <nigelb> and what about sponsorship? who access that?
[19:12] <nigelb> that's where I have blurry information
[19:12] <nigelb> do ~uds-organizers have access to that? Should they?
[19:13] <jcastro> so for sponsorship we should do this
[19:13] <jcastro> anyone in canonical should be able to leave a comment on a person's sponsorship page
[19:13] <jcastro> and track leads have the votes
[19:14] <nigelb> jcastro: ah, so we have lp:~canonical?
[19:14] <jcastro> not sure
[19:14] <jcastro> but you can leave that part as is
[19:14] <jcastro> it's not that big of a deal
[19:14] <jcastro> I think more important is putting that person's stats on their sponsorship application
[19:15] <jcastro> so like, since you know the LP name already
[19:15] <jcastro> suck in their groups, etc.
[19:15] <jcastro> that way it's obvious when a person's a member, etc.
[19:16] <jcastro> and the bug about having a status page for people who apply would be nice
[19:16] <jcastro> since emails keep getting lost.
[19:23] <cjohnston> jcastro: for the permission matrix, I think we need something to be written somewhere, and well defined... i.e. Admins get x, y, z Track Leads get x, y, Schedulers get y, z, and anything else that may be needed
[19:24] <cjohnston> and a definition of who the people that fill those spots are
[19:26] <cjohnston> Is that something we could get?
[19:49] <nigelb> jcastro: do you use the default django admin for sponsorships?
[19:51] <AlanBell> mhall119: that was a fun night out
[19:51] <AlanBell> hope I don't look as though I had drunk as many beers as I had
[19:52] <nigelb> AlanBell: No you didn't :)
[19:54] <jcastro> nigelb: what do you mean?
[19:54] <jcastro> oh yeah
[19:54] <jcastro> there's a checkbox for "can vote on sponsorships" or somesuch
[19:55] <nigelb> jcastro: that looks painful. How do you get the data out? Like get the top 50 people?
[19:55] <jcastro> there's a page that sorts them all
[19:55]  * nigelb looks for it
[19:55] <jcastro> but only the canonical managers vote so it's no big deal to just go into their record in django when there's a new one
[19:57] <nigelb> jcastro: ah, nice. Found the page.
[19:57] <nigelb> jcastro: We're planning on having track lead information page, so having them in summit helps for sponsorship as well as displaying them
[19:57] <jcastro> yeah
[19:58] <jcastro> and I want any employee to be able to leave comments
[19:58] <jcastro> not just voters
[19:58] <jcastro> that way people who work in those areas can leave comments to help track leads make more informed decisions
[20:17] <cjohnston> jcastro: for that there needs to be some way of defining who is an employee
[20:17] <cjohnston> There isn't any sort of ~canonical is there? cause that may be the easiest
[20:18] <jcastro> I am not sure if there is
[20:19] <jcastro> cjohnston: oh you mean for all employees?
[20:19] <cjohnston> you want all employees to be able to comment correct?
[20:19] <cjohnston> if so, then yes
[20:20] <jcastro> ah yeah, it's ~canonical
[20:20] <jcastro> yea
[20:20] <cjohnston> ok.. so that wont be too bad
[20:20] <cjohnston> how much information should be visible to the employees?
[20:21] <cjohnston> nigelb: sounds like there needs to be an Is Employee as defined by ~canonical; an Is Manager defined by a check box; and an Is Track Lead defined by check box
[20:39] <jcastro> on a random note
[20:39] <jcastro> jono: megadeth's been in the studio, they're almost done with the recording
[20:40] <jcastro> I didn't even know that
[20:44] <jcastro> jono: lmk when you're listening to music, I have a recommendation.
[20:59] <kim0> jcastro: damn, how do I create a newline in askubuntu answers :)
[21:00] <kim0> ok got it
[21:06] <jcastro> I got your back!
[21:07] <cjohnston> Mr. AskUbuntu to the rescue
[21:10] <jcastro> I'm actually not real
[21:10] <jcastro> I'm a bot
[21:10] <jcastro> http://vimeo.com/24495559
[21:10] <jcastro> ^^^ the novacut people made a video of the jam
[21:28] <jcastro> cjohnston: hah, who made the summit logo?
[21:28] <jcastro> cute
[21:30] <cjohnston> mhall119: iirc
[21:31] <hggdh> akgraner, welcome back!
[21:40] <czajkowski> jono: can you skype me into call
[21:40] <jono> czajkowski, will do
[21:40] <czajkowski> phone isn't fully functioing as it's migrating over to other provider
[21:40] <czajkowski> tank goo very much
[21:40] <czajkowski> I have a twinky
[21:40] <czajkowski> they taste odd and yet nice
[21:57] <jono> czajkowski, mhall119. cjohnston, about set?
[21:57] <mhall119> yup
[21:57] <mhall119> how are we doing this, skype or mumble?
[21:58] <jono> mhall119, skype and conf call
[21:58] <cjohnston> phone mhall119
[21:58] <cjohnston> im on
[21:58] <jono> mhall119, what is your skype id and I will conf you in
[21:58] <mhall119> mhall119 on skype
[21:58] <czajkowski> jono: yup
[22:00] <jono> cjohnston, you want to use phone or skype?
[22:00] <cjohnston> jono: I can skype as well if that would be easier
[22:00] <jono> cjohnston, cool, which id?
[22:00] <jono> o I have you
[22:00] <cjohnston> :-)
[22:00] <jono> so I think it is only Randall who will be on phone and I will try and get him on Skype too
[22:02] <mhall119> I wish I could skype through Empathy, instead of having both open
[22:08] <cjohnston> czajkowski: jono mhall119 nigelb http://pad.ubuntu.com/Mbmclj9ogp
[22:08] <jono> thanks cjohnston
[22:17] <cjohnston> rrnwexec: http://pad.ubuntu.com/Mbmclj9ogp
[22:19] <rrnwexec> cjohnston: thanks. am there now
[22:42] <jcastro> I LOVE ETHERPAD
[22:42] <jcastro> I just clicked on the link and I'm there all signed in
[22:42] <jcastro> awesome
[22:43] <cjohnston> look at what you see
[22:43] <cjohnston> :-P
[22:51] <czajkowski> cjohnston: do you mail that to us
[22:52] <cjohnston> I mailed the link, yes
[23:03] <cjohnston> jcastro: is it possible that you are aware of to see who approved someone to be a team member
[23:03] <czajkowski> oh I may die quietly I've mountain dew
[23:03] <czajkowski> so god damn tasty
[23:04] <cjohnston> lol
[23:05] <czajkowski> mountain dew throwback also sugar tastic times
[23:05] <cjohnston> jcastro: on LP, sorry
[23:06] <jcastro> cjohnston: I don't think so
[23:06] <jcastro> someone on #launchpad might know
[23:06] <czajkowski> jcastro: you moved down now to FL ?
[23:06] <jcastro> no just holiday
[23:06] <jcastro> moving next month though
[23:07] <czajkowski> ahh best of luck with the move
[23:07] <nhandler> jcastro: We really didn't have much for DEX, and we are trying to have as little actual information stored by dex itself as possible (making it more of a portal), so yes, I'm basically writing the web stuff from scratch right now
[23:08] <czajkowski> nn folks
[23:08] <czajkowski> soooo sleepy
[23:34] <mhall119> jono: may I PM?
[23:34] <jono> mhall119, although otp right now, feel free to type though