[07:18] <Eclypse> malt, any idea's?
[07:18] <dope> is there a way to set my default text editor?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> TaeBo-: Eclypse: what I mean is that it isn't a real motion blur, it just has the ghost of previous frames which IMHO looks horrible.
[07:18] <malt> Eclypse: would you be ok to use a socks server?
[07:18] <TaeBo-> Jordan_U I understand what you mean, I guess I am not perceptive enough to notice
[07:19] <nub_> i have a somewhat advanced question for you guys
[07:19] <synjet> so.. anybody got successful with skype? just wondering..
[07:19] <Eclypse> malt, that would be terribly ineffecient . . . I'd rather not
[07:19] <malt> Eclypse: are you wanting only http?
[07:19] <malt> or socks and http?
[07:19] <Eclypse> malt, I want one that supports HTTP and FTP
[07:19] <malt> socks can
[07:19] <Eclypse> malt, proxy plus supports socks, ftp, http, and all that
[07:20] <Eclypse> malt, and it's free, which amazes me actually
[07:20] <nub_> what i want to do is this: i want to install linux on my slave drive, but not put grub on the master. i want to use my BIOS menu to select which drive i boot from, so that if i take the ubuntu drive out, it doesn't affect my windows drive. is this doable?
[07:20] <malt> Eclypse: maybe your problem is your ip changed?
[07:20] <malt> and your putting in wrong proxy information on laptop
[07:20] <malt> ?
[07:20] <Eclypse> malt nope, this is static, and they're all the same IP's
[07:20] <Parisi> nub. yes.
[07:20] <Eclypse> malt, nope.
[07:20] <malt> hmmm
[07:20] <Jordan_U> nub_: Yes, it is easiest with a grub floppy.
[07:20] <gop> hello
[07:20] <gop>  how does one get to switch themes in fvwm in ubuntu
[07:20] <Eclypse> malt, mystery to me as well . . .
[07:20] <soulfire41> Hey...how come there are no IA64 Ubuntu ISO's downloadable for the Ubuntu web site?
[07:21] <nub_> i don't have a floppy drive, jordan
[07:21] <K^Holtz> I am having many issues with Gnome right now.. I just upgraded to Edgy, and now im getting Gnome Daemon errors
[07:21] <nub_> parisi: how would i go about it?
[07:21] <gop> just got fvwm installed but trying to learn
[07:21] <Jordan_U> nub_: Still possible.
[07:21] <gop> is thier a simple way to switch themes
[07:21] <nub_> is there a howto somewhere on the web?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Goodnight all
[07:21] <gop> I check the website hmm no how to
[07:22] <feross> gop: try fvwm-crystal... it's awsome
[07:22] <Guest007> goodnite Jordan_U
[07:22] <K^Holtz> There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Daemon. The last error message was The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files   [Thats what pops up in the dialog box]
[07:22] <nub_> yeah, i checked to forums already
[07:22] <Jordan_U> !grub
[07:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:22] <Eclypse> malt, anymore idea's?
[07:22] <K^Holtz> I noticed that Raid devices are failing to load at startup
[07:22] <dope> is there a way to set my default text editor?
[07:22] <malt> Eclypse: do you have aim?
[07:22] <Eclypse> malt, no, just MSN
[07:22] <malt> I can try to help you, I'm gooling proxy servers
[07:22] <malt> that is free
[07:23] <Parisi> you could always just let grub do its magic and if needed you could always remove it  restoring it back to normal by wiping the mbr.
[07:23] <Eclypse> malt, which is also what's not working . . .
[07:23] <vintle> Anyone know what the best daemon is to install for hosting a chat server in ubuntu?
[07:23] <malt> ok add me Eclypse<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is my msn
[07:23] <nub_> yeah, but that's a little bit more work than i'm up for right now. i'm just trying out WINE and the wacom drivers, i want to replace windows
[07:23] <asdx> what is the nvidia driver package name? nvidia-drivers?
[07:23] <nub_> nvidia-glx i think
[07:24] <Parisi> nub_ Well, you could skip grub and do exactly what you said, it will probably work, just not very convenient.
[07:24] <gop> feross,  how do I go by installing that
[07:24] <nub_> i don't have to install grub?
[07:24] <gop> jabber nub_
[07:24] <Eclypse> malt, added.
[07:24] <malt> Eclypse: no wait<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:24] <malt> I think thats it been so long
[07:25] <Parisi> nub_ I could also use a floppy to boot the kernel, not sure how to go about with Ubuntu tho, i always let grub do the work for me, i also run dual HD's.
[07:25] <gop> !fvwm-theme
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fvwm-theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <gop> !fvwm
[07:25] <Lancellor> http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/     what do you guys think about this is Linux Mint 2.0 base onUbuntu
[07:25] <ubotu> fvwm: F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.16-2 (edgy), package size 2927 kB, installed size 6512 kB
[07:25] <feross> gop:  http://polishlinux.org/apps/fvwm-crystal-speed-and-transparency/
[07:25] <nub_> i think i'll just do it the default way, and restore the windows mbr if needed. sounds like a lot less hassle.
[07:25] <feross> nub_: hold a sec
[07:25] <nub_> feross: ok
[07:26] <feross> nub_: if you take the windows drive out, make the ubuntu drive primary.. install ubuntu and grub into mbr... then set up as slave and now you should be able to switch between the two without probs
[07:26] <Parisi> nub_ Yes, thats correct, in order to restore the mbr just boot using a windows disk and issue fdisk /mbr on the command prompt, that should do the trick. That is assuming you install grub on the MBR
[07:27] <K^Holtz> Can someone please help me? My Gnome isnt loading all the way it seems.. I have blue titlebars and stuff.. I keep getting this Bug Buddy popping up, and it wont go away...
[07:27] <Guest007> Parisi, he said he doesn't have a floppy
[07:27] <nub_> windows comes on a cd now, lol
[07:27] <Parisi> Gues, dont need it, use a windows CD
[07:27] <Guest007> heh, lol sorry
[07:28] <nub_> i haven't used a floppy drive since i got a computer that could boot from cd
[07:28] <Parisi> heh.
[07:28] <feross> nub_: just edit the grub mentu.lst to whatever it is that it needs to point to once you make it a slave..
[07:29] <gop> feross,  is this supported in ubuntu
[07:29] <feross> nub_: could also use a usb stickto boot
[07:29] <nub_> i'll have to figure it out. i didn't know you didn't have to install grub on the primary master.
[07:29] <Parisi> If you happen to install grub on the seconday drive you might not be able to boot from it, you may have to set a bootable flag on it.
[07:29] <Parisi> Thats why i wouldnt recomend moving anything.
[07:30] <nub_> yeah, i'll just do it the default way, heh
[07:30] <nub_> i don't like config files much
[07:30] <Parisi> Moving as in replacing drives and cables.
[07:30] <feross> gop: it's very safe
[07:30] <pxlmdk> hi im trying to restore my xorg.conf cuz i tried to set up dual monitors and it didn't work.. how can i reconfigure this file please?
[07:30] <gop> is thier like a simple apt-get install blah
[07:30] <nub_> i'm far more comfortable messing around with my hardware than i am with software
[07:30] <Parisi> Worst thing that grub can do is corrupt your mbr, but thats easy to fix.
[07:31] <TheGino_Frank> Whats the difference between Metacity themes and GTK 2.x themes?
[07:31] <feross> gop: it's all of four steps to get it going :) common
[07:31] <nub_> i hope that i will be able to delete windows entirely
[07:31] <Parisi> nub_ What are you trying to do?
[07:31] <gop> so does the website tell me the four steps
[07:31] <nub_> right now, i'm trying ubuntu out for some things
[07:31] <feross> yes, you have to scroll about half way down
[07:31] <Parisi> Ah, ok.
[07:31] <nub_> i want to know if WINE is working for the games i want to play, and i want to know if these wacom bluetooth drivers work
[07:32] <gop> sudo apt-get install fvwm python imagemagick rox-filer\
[07:32] <gop>  xscreensaver trayer gksu aterm habak mpd mpc is this the command
[07:32] <Parisi> So far i like Vista > Ubuntu
[07:32] <nub_> if i get that working to my satisfaction, the likelihood is that i'll ditch xp
[07:32] <K^Holtz> what is a command to do all upgrade through terminal?
[07:32] <K^Holtz> upgrades*
[07:32] <feross> gop: yes that's where you start
[07:32] <Parisi> Ya, i have ditched XP for the most part, but Vista has kept me happy.
[07:32] <nub_> yeah, but i make $7 an hour, so ubuntu is the choice for me
[07:32] <Parisi> nub_ Ya, i hear you
[07:33] <Parisi> Ubuntu wont even run on my machine properly, its a shame.
[07:33] <pip> Hello
[07:34] <nub_> with the stupidly high price of vista coupled with how little it will add to most people's experience, i smell a large exodus to linux
[07:34] <Parisi> My next experiment is osx x86 on my Intel PC
[07:34] <Viper> hi
[07:34] <nub_> i figure i might want to get used to it now
[07:34] <Viper> i need help
[07:34] <Viper> i'm completely new to Ubuntu
[07:34] <Viper> i've never used linux in my life
[07:34] <Viper> how do i use it?
[07:34] <Parisi> nub_ Vista has a quite a few new featuresm you would be surprised, i could care less since i am getting a free upgrade.
[07:35] <Flannel> !ask | Viper
[07:35] <ubotu> Viper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:35] <TheGino_Frank> Whats the difference between Metacity themes and GTK 2.x themes???
[07:35] <Flannel> Er, more like... ask specific questions.  What would you like to do?
[07:35] <Viper> where is the console in ubuntu
[07:35] <Parisi> nub_ Ubuntu is a fine OS, just not polished enough for everyday use, at least not for me.
[07:35] <Viper> i wanted to install beryl with aigls on ubuntu 6.10
[07:35] <Flannel> Viper: there's a few ways to get to it.  If you just want to run a command, ctrl-f2 brings up a run sort of thing, or theres "terminal" in accessories
[07:35] <pip> my ubutnu installer could not read the partition table ,any ideas ? is the partition table broken or something else ? But the truth is ,windows on my hard disk can start normally!
[07:36] <Flannel> Viper: for beryl, you'll want to ask in #ubuntu-xgl, they'll be able to help
[07:36] <Viper> ok
[07:36] <nub_> what's beryl?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !beryl
[07:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:36] <Viper> what about questions for kiba-dock
[07:37] <Flannel> Viper: Is it included in ubuntu? (Ive never heard of it)
[07:37] <Viper> it looks something like the mac docs
[07:38] <nub_> ok, it's telling me grub will be installed to (hd0) but i only have hda and hdb on my computer. what gives?
[07:38] <Parisi> I really wanted to like Ubuntu when i bought my newer machine but half of hardware is not even recognized and configured properly.
[07:38] <pip> neither 5.10 nor 6.06 couldn't read the exist partition table ,what shall I do ?
[07:39] <Flannel> nub_: grub uses a different naming scheme than linux, where linux uses hda1 hda2, etc, grub uses only numerals, and starts at 0.  so hd0,0 is hda1, hd1,0 is hdb1, etc
[07:39] <Parisi> nub_ I assume it will install on all HD's ? or its primary master drive?
[07:39] <Parisi> Ah gotcha :)
[07:39] <nub_> ah, ok
[07:39] <nub_> so i could in theory install it to hd1 and force it to boot from that in the bios
[07:40] <nub_> hmm, i like that idea
[07:40] <Parisi> nub, just make sure the drive is bootable tho, sometimes you have to set a bootable flag on it manualy.
[07:40] <nub_> how do i do that?
[07:40] <Flannel> Viper: kiba-dock isn't in ubuntu's repositories, so... you'll need to find something comparable in the repositories (I know there is one, don't know what it's called), or ask the kiba people for support
[07:40] <Parisi> nub, I use fdisk to check its status and enable it.
[07:41] <nub_> what are the commands to do that?
[07:41] <pxlmdk> hi i am trying to reconfigure my xorg.conf.. my backup disappeared or something! can anyone tell me how? right now i can't load xserver..
[07:41] <Parisi> Cant remember exacly from top of my head, just do a fdisk /? or something.
[07:41] <nub_> ok, cool. thanks
[07:42] <nub_> oh, windows fdisk?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> pxlmdk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <Parisi> That is what i used.
[07:42] <nub_> ok. i didn't even know xp had fdisk
[07:43] <pip> pxlmdk, you lost your xorg.conf file ?
[07:43] <Parisi> nub_ Hmm, i believe so, i do use a Win98 disc so you might wanna check.
[07:43] <eyequeue> Parisi, when fscking "/" you probably want to boot from a cd or something instead, then you'd call the disk-root by some mountpoint name or the like instead
[07:43] <gop> feross,  k so know what
[07:43] <gop> how do I load it
[07:44] <eyequeue> Parisi, i hope that wasn't too unclear
[07:44] <babo> guys, I'm at the download site, but I don't see any links for the live cd ...
[07:44] <gop> got it installed
[07:44] <Parisi> eyequeue It was, come again? :0
[07:44] <Flannel> babo: "desktop" is liveCD
[07:44] <dope> is there a way to set my default text editor?
[07:44] <nub_> babo, all the normal cds are live cds
[07:44] <KrisWood> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install DHCP but it's giving me an error on starup saying I need to add a subnet for my vmnet8 network, which is apparently the vmware ethernet interface, so my question is how do I just get rid of vmware?
[07:44] <babo> k thanks
[07:44] <pip> pxlmdk, you can use live CD and copy the xorg.conf file to your linux partition which is on your harddisk
[07:44] <slavik> there should be a #ubuntu-coding club :D
[07:45] <eyequeue> Parisi, if i want to fsck /dev/hda1, presuming that was my root normally :)  i would boot to a livecd, that way /dev/hda1 isn''t mounted as root :)  then i would fsck from there
[07:46] <Flannel> slavik: that's usually just brought up in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:46] <dope> is there a way to set my default text editor?
[07:46] <eyequeue> Parisi, any clearer? :)
[07:46] <nub_> dope: system menu, preferences, preferred applications
[07:46] <Parisi> eyequeue, Ya, i mentioned the same procedure, the only difference is i use a Windows 98 boot cd.
[07:46] <slavik> Flannel: I am there :P
[07:46] <dope> thx bro
[07:47] <Parisi> eyequeue Is fskck the same as fdisk ?
[07:47] <eyequeue> Parisi, that threw me off, heh
[07:47] <KnowledgEngi> make prepare
[07:47] <KnowledgEngi> make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install
[07:47] <KnowledgEngi> and make install ???
[07:47] <KnowledgEngi> i must run make install too ???
[07:48] <eyequeue> Parisi, no, FileSystemChecK vs, um, FupyourDislk? heh
[07:48] <Flannel> KnowledgEngi: what are you installing?
[07:48] <feross> gop: I was away, ok did you download the tar.gz and install crystal?
[07:48] <KnowledgEngi> the new stable kernel
[07:48] <KrisWood> does anyone know how to remove vmware?
[07:48] <gop> Fergy,  sure
[07:48] <KnowledgEngi> change the timer parater in the config
[07:48] <Flannel> !kernel | KnowledgEngi
[07:48] <ubotu> KnowledgEngi: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:48] <gop> feross,  yes I installed and downloaded
[07:49] <eyequeue> Parisi, fsck finds glitches on your filesystem, say from an improper shutdown or power glitch
[07:49] <gop> feross,  so how do I run it
[07:49] <eyequeue> Parisi, fdisk repartitions your drive
[07:49] <Parisi> eyequeue I see. I guess we are talking about two different things here then, i wanted to check.
[07:49] <nub_> fdisk is a partition manager, eye
[07:49] <Adross> i have a comp running edgy networked to a comp running dapper. What should i do to remote desktop into the dapper one from the edgy box?
[07:49] <gop> feross the install went fine, but how do I run it hm
[07:49] <KrisWood> either that or does anyone know how I can remove the vmnet8 network interface...
[07:49] <Flannel> KrisWood: that depends on how you installed it.  via package management, just remove it.  if you installed from a bin or script, or whatnot, deleting all the files
[07:49] <gop> vnc
[07:49] <feross> gop: you need to put the crystal session file in Xsessions or something like that. THen you log out and go into the options, change session to the one that says foo...
[07:49] <nub_> i second the suggestion for vnc
[07:50] <eyequeue> nub_, yeah, i couldn't think of any f-starting word in it, heh
[07:50] <KnowledgEngi> in the second mirror there is some error Flannel
[07:50] <gop> oh
[07:50] <KrisWood> Flannel I don't remember how I installed it, it was ages ago
[07:50] <KrisWood> how do I tell if there's a package installed?
[07:50] <gop> feross, sudo cp /usr/local/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm I did this
[07:50] <KnowledgEngi> ls -l debian/config/i386/
[07:50] <peeps> is there some way to list connections to my computer, can I tell if someone is logged in remotely?
[07:50] <nub_> yes. users
[07:50] <Flannel> KrisWood: dpkg -l | grep vmware (or whatever you think it might be)
[07:50] <KnowledgEngi> becouse the directory config do not exist
[07:50] <gop> w
[07:50] <KnowledgEngi> exist the directory Config
[07:50] <KnowledgEngi> low case
[07:50] <nub_> peeps: users
[07:51] <gop> feross,  br
[07:51] <gop> b
[07:51] <Lovloss> How come my two internal HDs arent showing up as mountable disks? they're both NFTS :(
[07:51] <feross> ok
[07:51] <eyequeue> KrisWood, package foo will have a /usr/share/doc/foo directory (as one way)
[07:51] <KnowledgEngi> Processor type and features --> Timer frequency
[07:51] <KrisWood> yeah it's installed, I'll try removing it
[07:51] <peeps> ok, users, but how do I know if that is just some remote computer logged in as my user account or not
[07:51] <Lovloss> They're plugged in for sure too
[07:51] <KnowledgEngi> i need just change value from 250 to 1000 mhz
[07:51] <sn9> peeps: "w"
[07:51] <KnowledgEngi> i changed this and now i'm building the image
[07:51] <peeps> users tells me "peeps peeps peeps"
[07:51] <Parisi> I am going to give a Ubuntu a try again tomorrow, i just dont understand why it doesnt pickup any of my network cards, i must be running some obscure motherboard, it picked up my old hardware perfectly, Ubuntu runs better on aged hardware thats for sure .
[07:52] <KnowledgEngi> i copied the /boot/config..... in /usr/src/linude-version/.config
[07:52] <KnowledgEngi> make oldconfig
[07:52] <KrisWood> ack, it wants to remove my xserver
[07:52] <KrisWood> :-/
[07:52] <nub_> peeps: i think it will show your name for every session you have
[07:52] <KnowledgEngi> make menuconfig
[07:52] <KrisWood> I think this isn't the right package
[07:52] <Lovloss> IDE drives should show up on my desktop right? :< i cant even find them under /media
[07:52] <Lovloss> but the bios saw them
[07:52] <sn9> peeps: use "w"
[07:52] <nub_> so if you have a local and a remote user under the same name, it will say "peeps peeps"
[07:52] <KnowledgEngi> changed the timer frequency
[07:53] <Lovloss> silence ensues
[07:53] <eyequeue> Parisi, some have had some old weird cards that were sensed under the older breezy but not dapper, others have had cards sensed under the newer edgy but no others
[07:53] <nub_> yeah, the "w" command is a lot more detailed than "users"
[07:53] <Lovloss> alright, is there any command to see all unmounted drives?
[07:53] <KrisWood> ok some further googling turned up that I should run the uninstall.pl that came with it
[07:53] <nub_> ls /dev ?
[07:54] <KrisWood> that seems to be working
[07:54] <Lovloss> hmm
[07:54] <LaserLine> Anybody know why my webcam just displays a grey screen... it worked fine in dapper, but I get this grey screen in edgy
[07:54] <Lovloss> er no
[07:54] <nub_> i don't think ntfs support is included by default in ubuntu
[07:54] <Lovloss> it was before i had to reinstall
[07:54] <feross> Lovloss: prolly better to use fdisk..
[07:54] <Parisi> eye, its not even the card itself, its the motheboard, i am using the same wireless card for instance, it just doesnt pickup the motherboard as a whole i suppose.
[07:54] <nub_> are you sure you didn't add it after the original install?
[07:54] <Jaws> it has read for ntfs by deflault
[07:55] <feross> Lovloss: just fdisk /dev/hda  then hdb see what you have
[07:55] <Jaws> but not write i *think*
[07:55] <KrisWood> ok vmware is gone but vmnet8 is still conflicting with my dhcp
[07:55] <peeps> something is taking over my cdrom drive, but I think I just realized what is going on
[07:55] <Lovloss> says neither, but the Bios saw em!!
[07:55] <gop> feross,  k logged via foo, what else do I need, so it works with ubuntu
[07:55] <Lovloss> does it help that they were unplugged when i installed ubuntu?
[07:55] <peeps> I should have never told beagle to index from the root dir
[07:55] <feross> gop: looks good ?
[07:55] <Parisi> eyequeue Its sorta new hardware, i went from a 1.7 Intel to a dual core amd x2 3800XP
[07:55] <gop> like how about system updates
[07:55] <gop> looks way better
[07:56] <Parisi> 3800+ rather*
[07:56] <eyequeue> Parisi, yeah, i love linux for supporting old hardware beyond its life expectancy ... except at times like these
[07:56] <KnowledgEngi> Flannel,
[07:56] <KnowledgEngi> cp /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/.config
[07:56] <KnowledgEngi> make oldconfig && make menuconfig
[07:56] <KnowledgEngi> i has modified the timer frequency
[07:56] <KnowledgEngi> make prepare && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install
[07:56] <SilentDis> hello :)
[07:56] <sgl> hello
[07:56] <Lovloss> there they are. hda1 and hdb1
[07:56] <KnowledgEngi> i forget something ?
[07:56] <Lovloss> hda hdb
[07:56] <Parisi> Linux just doesnt get along too well with new hardware, i always had that problem.
[07:56] <Flannel> KnowledgEngi: why not just follow the instructions on that page?
[07:56] <eyequeue> Parisi, ah, i waws thinking yours was old, but new can be the same headache ... excpet that "some day, i hope soon" it can be supported :)
[07:56] <Lovloss> ..... why does fdisk -l find them?
[07:57] <varsendaggr> what is the GUI for mounting disk inside gnome?
[07:57] <sgl> hi, how can i find language-support-zh and install it
[07:57] <feross> gop: you can run apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade  that will update the system but crystal will not be updated automatically. You have to check the website out every once in a while to see when the new version comes out and install.
[07:57] <KnowledgEngi> becouse this page have some error
[07:57] <KnowledgEngi> i try to do it
[07:57] <varsendaggr> usta be disk in preferences
[07:57] <Parisi> eyequeue Ya, someday may be too late thats the sad part, i am on Vista and my next system will probably be a Mac running OSX, its a shame.
[07:57] <KnowledgEngi> and this directory do not exist
[07:57] <eyequeue> Parisi, the best way to guarantee it is to buy one for some kernel developer, heh
[07:57] <KnowledgEngi> the procedure in your page is not complete
[07:57] <KnowledgEngi> Flannel,
[07:57] <gop> Feross will they ever add to the apt list rep list
[07:58] <Lovloss> Okay, fdisk -l lists both hda and hdb, yet "mount dev/hda" an hdb doesnt work
[07:58] <sgl> what to do if i want write in chinese, help
[07:58] <Lovloss> any suggestions?
[07:58] <SilentDis> varsendaggr: if it's just a one-off mount, you can use System > administration > Disks
[07:58] <feross> gop: crystal is just a bunch of themes that are easy to install.. you don't really have to update it very often.
[07:58] <Parisi> I will just keep the old PC for Linux.
[07:58] <eyequeue> Parisi, well, there is a powerpc livecd for ubuntu, if on one short-term :)
[07:58] <gop> cool
[07:58] <gop> how does one change the defualt crystal theme
[07:58] <feross> gop: fvwm get's updated with the rest of the system
[07:58] <Parisi> eyequeue, ya except the newer macs run on a Intel :)
[07:59] <KrisWood> oh wait I've got a different error now
[07:59] <eyequeue> Parisi, or a powerpc install of course, unless it's a newer intel mac
[07:59] <varsendaggr> SilentDis, yeah that is gone i am running edgy
[07:59] <Parisi> : )
[07:59] <feross> gop: the crystal has a bunch of menus... you go to the system recipies and choose one to try out.
[07:59] <SilentDis> varsendaggr:  ahh, sorry.  i haven't made the leap yet.  still running dapper here
[07:59] <Lovloss> Wow. so none of you can help
[07:59] <Lovloss> :P
[07:59] <karat> Is there a ubuntu livecd that isn't a dvd?
[07:59] <eyequeue> Parisi, lol.  something tells me an i386 install disk works on those heh
[08:00] <feross> gop: I meant to say click on the crystal to see what you can edit and modify. the only thing I don't recommend is changing the default file manager to ROX or Nautilus..
[08:00] <malt> Is there anyways i could cap my server ubuntu linux server at 100 KB/s download speed and 20 KB/s upload speed for WAN, but unmetered speeds for LAN?
[08:00] <varsendaggr> Lovloss, what exactly are you typing
[08:00] <sn9> karat: none of the livecd's are on dvd
[08:00] <eyequeue> karat, yes, the download link starting at ubuntu.com should lead to those
[08:00] <KrisWood> ok I got rid of the vmnet8 error, could anyone help me configure dhcp? here's my current syslog error http://pastebin.com/830337
[08:00] <varsendaggr> Lovloss, where do you want the disk mounted?
[08:00] <SilentDis> Lovloss:  you didn't create a logical partition on the disk yet.  /dev/hda is simply a device, you'll need to create /dev/hda1 and such
[08:00] <karat> I was looking in the wrong place I guess :) thanks
[08:00] <gop> feross,  thanks
[08:01] <eyequeue> sn9, my livedvd here somewhat disagrees with you ;-)
[08:01] <SilentDis> !partition
[08:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:01] <Lovloss> i dunno, i just want access to it
[08:01] <feross> gop: ok
[08:01] <foo> How can I force a filesystem check and have fsck check and fix all errors on the next reboot?
[08:01] <Lovloss> so do i just make directories?
[08:01] <sn9> eyequeue: from an official download site?
[08:02] <eyequeue> sn9, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/
[08:02] <Flannel> KnowledgEngi: I get no error on either page
[08:02] <sn9> heh
[08:02] <Lovloss> lets say i want to mount hda1 and it has no logical drive. How should id o it
[08:02] <J-_> How can i find out an ip of a zombie? or get /rid/ of them for that matter?
[08:02] <Lovloss> "mount hda1 to"...?
[08:02] <sirmis> back
[08:02] <eyequeue> sn9, it's been months since i grabbed it, but the dir is live still, i just checked
[08:02] <karat> Is the livecd the same as the install cd?
[08:03] <KnowledgEngi> ls -l debian/config/i386/
[08:03] <KnowledgEngi> this is the error
[08:03] <feross> Lovloss: did you run a "df -h" to see what you have already
[08:03] <SilentDis> question:  trying to install kubuntu-desktop package on Dapper, get this output:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33248/.  States a dependancy (kdegraphics-kfile-plugins) is not going to be installed, then exits.  any ideas?
[08:03] <KnowledgEngi> in the linux source directory
[08:03] <sn9> karat: the live can install as of 6.06
[08:03] <eyequeue> karat, perhaps :)  there are three cds that install, the live cd the alternate cd and the server cd
[08:03] <Lovloss> all i hazave logically is sda
[08:03] <Lovloss> my external drive
[08:03] <KnowledgEngi> debian/config directory do not exyst
[08:03] <feross> Lovloss: as far as mounted partitions... also you should check your /etc/fstab to see what ubuntu detected..
[08:04] <KnowledgEngi> Flannel, and in the page that you pasted there are not all command
[08:04] <feross> Lovloss: this is on a system that has already been installed or the livecd?
[08:04] <Flannel> KnowledgEngi: and you apt-getted linux-source?
[08:04] <Lovloss> Its installed
[08:04] <feross> ok
[08:04] <KnowledgEngi> if you put all command from the page to the command line
[08:04] <KnowledgEngi> you encounter error
[08:04] <Lovloss> im telling you guys, it sees only my external drive. The two internals, plugged up though they are, are not being read except by fdisk -l
[08:04] <Lovloss> which means it sees them but it has nowhere to mount them right?
[08:05] <karat> Hmm found it, it was labeled a desktop cd for some reason?? oh well :)
[08:05] <J-_> How can i find out an ip of a zombie? or get /rid/ of them for that matter?
[08:05] <KnowledgEngi> sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-devel fakeroot kernel-wedge kernel-package
[08:05] <KnowledgEngi> sudo apt-get install linux-source
[08:05] <KnowledgEngi> i runned this commands
[08:06] <KrisWood> anyone know dhcp configuration?
[08:06] <feross> J-_: you'll have to sniff the network or check the firewall logs. usually zombies make many connections per second.. then walk over to it and hit it with a hammer
[08:06] <rickyfingers> J-_ iptables -I INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j DROP
[08:06] <KnowledgEngi> and after i has run: cd linux-source-2.6.17
[08:06] <J-_> thanks
[08:06] <Lovloss> What would happen if i "mkdir /media/hda1/" and "mount /dev/hda1/ to /media/hda1/"  would that work? i have no clue :P
[08:07] <KnowledgEngi> and ls -l debian/config/i386/ tell me that the directory do not exist
[08:07] <Daverocks> Lovloss: without the "to" in the mount command, yes
[08:07] <KnowledgEngi> Flannel,
[08:07] <Lovloss> just a space?
[08:07] <feross> Lovloss: and remember sudo
[08:07] <Lovloss> ok ill try that
[08:07] <Daverocks> Lovloss: yes, and get rid of the slash after "/dev/hda1"
[08:07] <Daverocks> Lovloss: because it's not a folder ;)
[08:08] <Lovloss> worked, but i dont have permision to view.   I would like some way to fix this.  One way I have thought of is to somehow ensure that my entire Internet usage history is posted on the web in real-time and shown in my IM nick tagline.  Does this make sense?
[08:09] <Daverocks> unfo: LOL
[08:10] <KrisWood> lol
[08:10] <arsalanyo> Halp Halp
[08:10] <unfo> Daverocks: KrisWood: serious.
[08:10] <malt> Is there anyway i could cap my server ubuntu linux server at 100 KB/s download speed and 20 KB/s upload speed for WAN, but unmetered speeds for LAN?
[08:10] <unfo> you've never had such an issue?
[08:10] <Daverocks> unfo: i admit i've had similar issues, but i haven't thought of putting history in IM tagline o_O
[08:10] <SilentDis> Lovloss:  sorry, stupid ubotu doesn't have the info i was hoping for.  basic command structure for mount is:  mount something /some/where -t type -o options.  for the first partition on the primary hard drive, mounting to /media/harddrive, you'd just need to type "mount /dev/hda1 /media/harddrive" usually :)
[08:10] <KrisWood> between work and kids I don't get to spend enough time online anymore :p
[08:10] <arsalanyo> my ubuntu bootloader is vanished
[08:10] <arsalanyo> what should i do
[08:10] <arsalanyo> plz help
[08:11] <Daverocks> unfo: maybe you could restrict yourself from executing certain programs on certain days
[08:11] <unfo> i have access to sudo though.
[08:11] <arsalanyo> it just goes to windows
[08:11] <sirmis> bbl
[08:11] <arsalanyo> plz i am in need
[08:11] <Tomcat_> !grub | arsalanyo
[08:11] <ubotu> arsalanyo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:12] <unfo> arsalanyo: please do not type more than 2 contentless messages per 60 seconds :)
[08:12] <unfo> e.g. "what should i do", "plz help", "plz i am in need" :)
[08:12] <eyequeue> unfo, what you're doing is control-through-embarassment?  can't sudo access change the records though?
[08:13] <unfo> eyequeue: what records?
[08:13] <rad|x> hi, i have "sudo timestamp too far in the future: .." how do i fix this?
[08:13] <rad|x> whenever i try to sudo
[08:13] <unfo> I am thinking of control-thru-embarrassment though I don't know if it'd work. (Would it?)
[08:13] <unfo> rad|x: sudo -k
[08:13] <rad|x> same thing
[08:14] <SilentDis> radlx:  i had that shortly after resetting my clock... a simple reboot solved it.
[08:14] <rad|x> nod
[08:14] <unfo> rad|x: sudo -k didn't work?
[08:14] <rad|x> ty =) 'll try
[08:14] <rad|x> it didnt
[08:14] <feross> unfo: how about having someone unplug your internet for a couple of hours? they can hide the cables and you can look all over the house like a desperate puppy :)
[08:14] <rad|x> gave me same error  unfo
[08:14] <rickyfingers> rad|x sudo -K
[08:14] <rad|x> same thing
[08:14] <rad|x> -k or -K
[08:14] <rad|x> same error, this happened after i had udev restart
[08:15] <unfo> feross: hmm, interesting, but nah, i'm 21 and live w/ my parents, there are too many ethernet cables around. :)
[08:15] <sn9> rad|x: boot into recovery mode, visudo, and put a ! in front of tty_tickets
[08:15] <slavik> !ru|slavik
[08:15] <ubotu> slavik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:15] <rad|x> sn9 i don't know what this means lol
[08:16] <rad|x> spasibo slavik, that helps :P
[08:16] <SilentDis> unfo:  may i make an obvious suggestion?  there's a large, blue-ceilinged room behind one of the doors in your domicile.  find it.  explore! :D
[08:16] <eyequeue> unfo, okay, maybe i misinterpret.  if you're posting "something" to the web, your history, where does it pull its info from?  can't you modify that source?
[08:16] <nante> what does FUD mean?
[08:17] <Daverocks> nante: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt
[08:17] <slavik> rad|x: I was testing my gaim :P    :)
[08:17] <eyequeue> Fear Uncertainty and Doubt
[08:17] <J-_> feross: where are the firewall logs located?
[08:17] <nante> oh, im reading posts and yeah im a newbie, tnx
[08:17] <unfo> eyequeue: if i'm root, i could probably circumvent any embarrassment system unless it ran on my router.
[08:17] <rad|x> ok reboot solved my problem
[08:17] <Adross> what's the command to display the amount of free hard drive space in a terminal?
[08:17] <unfo> if it ran on the router, I'd have to stand up to fix it, and self-control would kick in.
[08:17] <Parisi> Good Night all :)
[08:17] <unfo> or, if I had to reboot to fix it, ditto.
[08:17] <eyequeue> unfo, "your" router short circuits my next suggestion
[08:18] <unfo> eyequeue: what suggestion?
[08:18] <SilentDis> take care all
[08:18] <unfo> well, my parents' router.
[08:18] <feross> J-_: I'm guessing you're looking for a zombie behind a large network.. the network must have a firewall somewhere, depending on the firewall, you may be able to pull connection logs from it.
[08:18] <slavik> Adross: df -H
[08:18] <Adross> ta
[08:18] <unfo> SilentDis: can't now, canada, it's currently dark and cold out.  But I should get out more.  I once made a rule that I would go biking for min. 5 min or more each day before going on the computer.  Too bad I've been slipping in that regard.
[08:19] <rad|x> i have a question, whenever some of my usb devices are created and added to /dev/<dev> their chmod is 666, is it possible to modify this chmod automatically?
[08:19] <eyequeue> unfo, i ssh inro mine, where linux runs :)  but any commercial router may already have some "hours access is allowed to $somewhere from #whichhost" feature?  does yours?
[08:19] <rad|x> like for example set default to 777
[08:19] <unfo> Maybe all I need is an IRC / netnews / web slowdown tool.
[08:19] <sn9> rad|x: yes, using udev rules
[08:19] <J-_> feross: err ok, thanks.. lol
[08:19] <unfo> eyequeue: yes, but i share the router w/ my family.
[08:19] <rad|x> i can't get udev rules to work though
[08:20] <unfo> I wonder if the router can set such rules by IP.
[08:20] <sn9> rad|x: there is a trick to them
[08:20] <Adross> i have a server in the next room which i control by text ssh. How can i remove gnome and all of x etc, and is it safe to do this?
[08:20] <feross> unfo: my self control just kicked in :)) it's called a nakedwife ...
[08:20] <feross> good night
[08:20] <eyequeue> unfo, so only restrict host 192.168.0.$unfo from ports :)
[08:20] <rad|x> for example in rules 70-mydevice.rules
[08:20] <slavik> Adross: it is (as long as ubuntu-minimal and whatnot is not removed)
[08:20] <rad|x> i have BUS="usb" DRIVER="mydriver" MODE="0777"
[08:21] <rad|x> i have BUS="usb", DRIVER="mydriver", MODE="0777"
[08:21] <Adross> slavik: ta, now how do i remove it?
[08:21] <rad|x> and it still doesnt work
[08:21] <eyequeue> unfo, os put the rest on 192.168.0 and give yourself 192.168.1 heh
[08:21] <slavik> Adross: you can do apt-get stuff on the remove system as if you are behind it (one of the purposes of SSH)
[08:21] <eyequeue> oR not os
[08:21] <Adross> apt-get doesn't remove dependencies though
[08:21] <sn9> rad|x: ok, that's what you have for =, but what do you have for ==?
[08:21] <rad|x> ==?
[08:22] <sn9> KERNEL=="foo"
[08:22] <rad|x> do i need KERNEL?
[08:22] <slavik> == equal comparison operator (= is assignment)
[08:23] <wthww> hello all
[08:23] <sn9> not necessarily KERNEL, but something with ==
[08:23] <wthww> :)
[08:23] <rad|x> well i dont understand why though
[08:23] <rad|x> i have a bunch of examples which dont involve ==
[08:24] <Adross> does anyone know of a text based bit torrent client?
[08:24] <sn9> rad|x: how else is it gonna know what to apply the rule to? where do you see an example without ==?
[08:24] <rad|x> nod
[08:25] <sn9> Adross: why not the original? it's called bittorrent
[08:25] <Adross> what a fitting name
[08:25] <Adross> thanks guys, later
[08:26] <rad|x> sn9 thanks a bunch
[08:27] <eobanb> !version
[08:27] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[08:28] <Guest007> !help
[08:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:28] <Guest007> huh, neet
[08:28] <kayxray> I'm trying to install PartImage ( http://www.partimage.org/Download ) and it says the easiest way is to 'apt-get install partimage'.  I ran that command under sudo, but it said it couldn't find package partimage.  Do I have to compile from source?
[08:28] <arsalanyo> i have downloaded the super grub disk
[08:29] <arsalanyo> its a tar file should i extract and burn it , will it boot
[08:29] <arsalanyo> i guess there should be an image file
[08:29] <arsalanyo> instead
[08:31] <arsalanyo> anyboyd
[08:31] <kayxray> Looks like it has image files you can burn.
[08:32] <unfo> !universe | kayxray
[08:32] <ubotu> kayxray: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:32] <unfo> !info partimage
[08:32] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-15ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[08:32] <kayxray> Wow.  I gotta learn how to use ubotu.  Thanks Unfo!
[08:32] <ogamiitto> how can I manage my ipod music and podcasts with rhythmbox in edgy?
[08:32] <arsalanyo> what about me guys
[08:33] <kayxray> arsalanyo... there is an iso image to download.
[08:33] <kayxray> i'd get it and burn it to disc.
[08:33] <arsalanyo> where i cant find it
[08:33] <unfo> kayxray: no problem. :) let me know if you have trouble getting it installed.  P.S. Learn dd too -- dd comes with every Unix.
[08:33] <kayxray> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/download.phplists some places
[08:34] <vit_>
[08:34] <arsalanyo> kayxray the address u typed does not exisist
[08:34] <unfo> kayxray: an example: sudo dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/home/unfo/windows_backup.img bs=1M
[08:34] <unfo> and you're done.
[08:35] <unfo> compressed images are easy too.
[08:35] <dsdg> halo #ubuntu, i am trying to install ubuntu 6.10 edgy on a Compaq Armada M700 i pop in  the cd and it boots, but when i install it seems the cd has gone into an endless loop, the cdrom might be slow but if it boots it should install right? whats my options here?
[08:36] <vit_>     ?    -       \
[08:36] <kayxray> Compressing is just gzip/bzip the resulting file?
[08:36] <kayxray> dd will make a file the same full size though, right?  Like, 10GB hda1 = 10GB file (before compression)?
[08:36] <unfo> vit_: english? francais? espanol? chinese? korean? japanese?
[08:36] <Lovloss> is therer any way in gksudo to make a folder and ALL folders inside recursively change permissions so i can get to them without being root?
[08:37] <kayxray> !easysource
[08:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:37] <arsalanyo> i cant find the iso image of super grub its nowhere
[08:37] <Lovloss> it doesnt have a recursion option
 RU
[08:37] <unfo> !ru
[08:37] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:37] <kayxray> arsalanyo: http://roax.homelinux.org/ficheros/super-grub-cd_0.9508.iso
[08:37] <kayxray> it's listed on the URL I mentioned previously
[08:38] <vit_> ok
[08:38] <unfo> kayxray: you can gzip as you dd. You get a 25% or 50% smaller file.
[08:38] <unfo> vit_, :-)
[08:38] <Lovloss> anyone? :<
[08:38] <arsalanyo> the page was not getting opened thanks its downlaoding now
[08:38] <vit_> ubuntu-ru :That channel doesn't exist
[08:38] <kayxray> ok, glad you got it going.
[08:39] <kayxray> unfo
[08:39] <kayxray> unfo: how do you do that?  dd 'stuff' | gzip file ?
[08:39] <iter> Lovloss: open terminal and do chmod -R user folder/
[08:39] <nub_> hello again
[08:39] <unfo> vit_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[08:39] <nub_> can anybody tell me how to kill the x server so i can install the nvidia closed drivers?
[08:39] <unfo> vit_: you need the #
[08:40] <unfo> kayxray: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1M | gzip - > file.img.gz
[08:40] <zcat[1] > nub_: ctrl-alt-F1, log in, type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[08:40] <nub_> thank you
[08:40] <Lovloss> I dont get this chmod command
[08:40] <kayxray> unfo, awesome! thanks
[08:40] <unfo> Lovloss: google for: chmod tutorial
[08:40] <iter> Lovloss: oh crud, sorry, should be chown
[08:40] <unfo> kayxray: you're welcome.
[08:40] <zcat[1] > Lovloss: right-click on the files, choose properties..
[08:41] <Lovloss> i can make *one* folder available, but folders inside the folder wont go with it
[08:41] <unfo> zcat[1] ++
[08:41] <zcat[1] > ahhh... ok
[08:41] <Lovloss> and its got tons of folders
[08:41] <Lovloss> would chown really help?
[08:42] <iter> Lovloss: sudo chown -R user /path/to/folder
[08:42] <Lovloss> user being my username?
[08:42] <iter> right... now what are you doing that to
[08:42] <iter> nothing important right?
[08:42] <zcat[1] > iter: chown or chmod? does he want it accessable to everyone else, or owned by another user?
[08:42] <kayxray> unfo:  about your 'dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1M | gzip - > file.img.gz' command.  how do I restore :) ?  'dd if=file.img.gz bs=1M of=/dev/hda1 | gzip'?  Can you recommend a good place to learn about the | stuff?
[08:42] <Lovloss> a folder i copied from another HD
[08:43] <iter> Lovloss: and it's owned by root or something?
[08:43] <zcat[1] > Sorry, OK.. iter is on the right track then :)
[08:43] <Lovloss> yeah, after all its not on my linux partition
[08:43] <iter> Lovloss: you just want to be able to browse through it right
[08:43] <Lovloss> it was originally running in XP
[08:43] <Lovloss> no. i want to be able to treat it as i please
[08:43] <Lovloss> add/erase aand such. make it usable
[08:43] <iter> Lovloss: yeah you can use chown -R
[08:43] <Lovloss> okay ill give it a shot
[08:44] <zcat[1] > Lovloss: so you copied it into home as root?
[08:44] <Lovloss> if its on my desktop that'd be /home/desktop?
[08:44] <unfo> kayxray: I strongly recommend you get help in person. May I ask where you live? Otherwise, look into good Unix books. Or see the website An Introduction to Command-Line Linux
[08:44] <iter> Desktop
[08:44] <Lovloss> i copied it onto my desktop using gksudo
[08:44] <zcat[1] > Lovloss: /home/yourname/Desktop
[08:44] <erpo> Hi all. Nautilus is using 99.5% CPU and I have no idea why. I'd like to report this as a bug, but I don't know how. Normally, when a program crashes, I submit a backtrace. What should I do when a program just won't let go of the CPU but otherwise continues to work?
[08:44] <Lovloss> aha ok
[08:44] <kayxray> Tampa, FL.
[08:44] <unfo> kayxray: google for: tampa linux user group
[08:45] <unfo> kayxray: or check www.meetup.com, or find a local university computer club or Linux club.
[08:45] <unfo> Or take classes.
[08:45] <iter> or just read wikipedia
[08:45] <zcat[1] > Lovloss: alt-F2 then gksudo chown -R you /home/you/Desktop/folder
[08:46] <zcat[1] > (where 'you' is the user you're logged in s)
[08:46] <kayxray> Awesome, thanks again!
[08:46] <Lovloss> thanks :D
[08:46] <ulinskie> anybody knows if I can use ericsson k608i's GPRS feature to surf the web?
[08:47] <Lovloss> bye now ill go try
[08:47] <unfo> kayxray: yes. See chart at bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unix_programs
[08:47] <unfo> ulinskie: try channel ##hardware
[08:47] <sn9> ulinskie: i have surfed the web before over gprs on my motorola
[08:48] <zcat[1] > strange question .. "can I use an internet connection to access the internet" ??
[08:48] <Lovloss> er, my copy/paste messed up. was it chown -p ?
[08:48] <Lovloss> or r
[08:48] <sn9> zcat[1] : the answer is a resounding YES
[08:48] <zcat[1] > Lovloss: chown -R
[08:48] <Lovloss> thanks :P
[08:49] <ulinskie> unfo: thanks
[08:49] <ulinskie> sn9: thanks too
[08:49] <kayxray> unfo: thanks again!
[08:49] <kraut> moin
[08:49] <unfo> ulinskie: np
[08:49] <unfo> kayxray: you're welcome again :)
[08:50] <sn9> well, firefox is still SIGILLin' in the dapper house
[08:50] <unfo> It makes me happy to know I'm helping people.
[08:50] <dannyxulo21> hola
[08:50] <dannyxulo21> ayuda porfavor
[08:50] <dannyxulo21> xD
[08:50] <unfo> !es
[08:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:50] <unfo> dannyxulo21, :-)
[08:50] <dannyxulo21> oki graacias ;)
[08:50] <unfo> dannyxulo21: de nada.
[08:51] <zircx> that was pretty cool
[08:51] <zircx> !it
[08:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:51] <afd_> hi! If I have a RAID array (2 drives) and the bios software didn't recognize one of the drives as part of the array, asked me if I wanted to include it, not wants to rebuild the array, do I lose the data as a result of rebuilding the array?
[08:51] <zircx> dang
[08:51] <zcat[1] > !kl
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <nathansnook7> How can I track down what is causing heavy system load in ubuntu?
[08:51] <zcat[1] > There's no answer for klingon ubuntu users?
[08:51] <Guest007> !de
[08:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:51] <defrysk> nathansnook7, open tp
[08:51] <defrysk> top*
[08:51] <sn9> zcat[1] : "kl" is not the language code for klingon
[08:52] <siXy> afd_, dont use cheap onboard raid controllers with linux.
[08:52] <zircx> zcat[1] , sector 4 warp 3
[08:52] <iter> afd_: very likely
[08:52] <Guest007> that is just amazing.
[08:52] <iter> afd_: can you still see the array in windows?
[08:52] <nathansnook7> defrysk: what am I looking for
[08:52] <zcat[1] > sn9: hmm.. you know what is?
[08:52] <defrysk> nathansnook7, open top in your console and see what process is consuming
[08:52] <siXy> just set them as normal drives and use software raid.
[08:52] <floating> Hi. I am trying to install fonts, but: Setting up xfonts-intl-chinese (1.2.1-6ubuntu1) ...
[08:52] <afd_> siXy, iter: I'm using a PCI expansion board, I don't have windows on that computer and I haven't had the guts to fully reboot the OS
[08:52] <floating> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[08:53] <sn9> not offhand, but i think it's three letters, and one of them is "t"
[08:53] <siXy> afd_, which board?
[08:53] <iter> afd_: is there data on the drives you can't lose
[08:53] <afd_> siXy: iter: I just stopped it at the Boot screen
[08:53] <zcat[1] > brb; googling
[08:53] <afd_> iter: yes, I'd rather not lose the data
[08:53] <nathansnook7> defrysk: looks like it is called events/0
[08:53] <afd_> I can take one of the drives out and back it up, but I don't want to waste time
[08:54] <siXy> what pci board is it?
[08:54] <sn9> !ka
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <iter> afd_: so you had this array setup in ubuntu previously right
[08:54] <afd_> iter: yes
[08:54] <zcat[1] > !tlh
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tlh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <iter> using mdadm or what
[08:54] <afd_> siXy: I don't remember, but I'm trying to find out
[08:55] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[08:55] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:55] <zcat[1] > Someone needs to craft a reply in klingon for !tlh
[08:55] <iter> afd_: did you set the array up with mdadm or via bios
[08:55] <afd_> iter: I haven't had it setup as anything in Ubuntu
[08:55] <afd_> I set it up in bios
[08:55] <iter> afd_: so how is there data on it?
[08:56] <afd_> iter: in ubuntu it appears as a single drive
[08:56] <afd_> sdd or something
[08:56] <iter> afd_: ok so previously, you set it up in the bios, then installed to /dev/sdd
[08:56] <sn9> !botsnack apt-get
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnack apt-get - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <iter> afd_: which is an array that appears to ubuntu as one drive
[08:57] <iter> afd_: right?
[08:57] <afd_> iter: exactly
[08:57] <TaeBo-> Does anyone know how to boot a linux partition without grub set up?
[08:57] <iter> afd_: then, what happened ?
[08:57] <unfo> TaeBo-: use a grub cd-rom
[08:57] <TaeBo-> That simple?
[08:57] <unfo> no
[08:57] <afd_> I'm doing RAID 1 (mirroring)
[08:57] <unfo> you have to know how to use the grub cd.  Look for a grub tutorial.
[08:58] <iter> afd_: right so you rebooted and now your bios is complaining that a drive is not part of the array?
[08:58] <TaeBo-> unfo: There is nothing already set up that I can download? I have to custom make a CD?
[08:58] <iter> afd_: if that's the case go ahead and tell the bios to rebuild the array
[08:58] <unfo> TaeBo-: grab a grub cd off google.
[08:58] <zcat[1] > TaeBo-: boot a live CD, mount your target, then use grub-install with the appropriate switches to make it install grub on the drive.
[08:58] <afd_> iter: right. It asked me that drive 0 is not part of the array, and if I want to include it. I said yes, and then it said it wants to rebuild the array
[08:59] <afd_> iter: what's gonna happen?
[08:59] <iter> afd_: yep, rebuild it
[08:59] <unfo> TaeBo-: do what zcat[1]  said.  It's more practical.
[08:59] <TaeBo-> zcat: then can I load that with ntdlr?
[08:59] <iter> afd_: it's going to sync disk 0 with disk 1
[08:59] <TaeBo-> Unfo:Thanks
[08:59] <afd_> ok
[08:59] <iter> afd_: might take awhile, depending on size
[08:59] <unfo> TaeBo-: you're welcome
[08:59] <siXy> afd_, what i am attempting to discover is if you are using true hardware raid (fairly unlikely) or if you have a software raid setup.
[08:59] <zcat[1] > TaeBo-: Umm, if you install to the partition rather than the mbr I think you can
[08:59] <unfo> TaeBo-: please tell us what the original problem is :)
[09:00] <afd_> siXy: I have a PCI extension card, I haven't set up anything in software
[09:00] <afd_> the BIOS software might to anything, but I don't know
[09:00] <afd_> I can take out the card from the slot, to take a look at the chipset
[09:00] <Viper> would someone please help with installing beryl
[09:00] <zcat[1] > TaeBo-: and reason you don't want to boot Windows with grub?
[09:00] <TaeBo-> unfo: I had linux loaded and couldn't get windows to boot, so I fixed the MBR to work with windows again, now I have no clue how to dual boot, and my linux is currently unbootable, so I pretty much just swapped OSs
[09:00] <zcat[1] > !beryl
[09:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:01] <siXy> if ubuntu saw it as a single drive then it is a true hardware card. in which case you should rebuild it (probably)
[09:01] <zircx> damn there use to be a dbz irc server i use to connect to, to download the series..
[09:01] <siXy> however if it is a hardware raid card the drive fell out of the array for a reason, so i would test the drive first.
[09:01] <afd_> siXy: 7t8712 or something like that
[09:01] <zcat[1] > TaeBo-: my experience, getting grub to boot windows is easier than getting ntldr to boot linux
[09:02] <unfo> !no, Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment.  It provides fancier effects than compiz, such as windows burning down.  See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:02] <TaeBo-> zcat: I had some issue with ntldr and LBA in my bios settings I think, and I couldn't get windows to load through grub at all
[09:02] <zircx> TaeBo-, shit if I had a memory i'd be able to help you lol
[09:02] <TaeBo-> Heh
[09:02] <TaeBo-> Np
[09:02] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[09:02] <fiendskull9> i just came across this
[09:03] <fiendskull9> and wanted to know if this is legal
[09:03] <fiendskull9> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ubuntu-6-06-LTS-Dapper-Drake-Linux-64Bit-x64-x86_W0QQitemZ130047171162QQihZ003QQcategoryZ41881QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[09:03] <zircx> i believe you can write an bootable image from linux that can be used in windows that will help you
[09:03] <floating> Heyy. I try install extra fonts, and at the end of apt-get message it says that /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory. Did it install the fonts or not ?
[09:03] <siXy> afd_, on its own that doesnt mean much to me ;) is it and ide, scsi or sas card?
[09:03] <unfo> fiendskull9: it is legal to sell open source software.
[09:03] <fiendskull9> ok
[09:03] <fiendskull9> JW
[09:03] <Lovloss> i have to ask a question, and its very, very ridiculous, but i think i need to know the answer.... bare with me here
[09:03] <afd_> siXy: IDE
[09:04] <zcat[1] > !ask
[09:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:04] <TaeBo-> Whoa
[09:04] <Lovloss> My girlfriend switched to ubuntu FINALLY and im happy, but she's sad because she really wants to run "virtuaguy" like she did with windows. Its this dude who dances on your desktop. Whatever. Anyway, sh's threatening to go back to windows, and that i cannot have, so...
[09:04] <TaeBo-> I was just thinking that
[09:04] <Lovloss> :P
[09:04] <zcat[1] > Lovloss: perhaps it will run in wine?
[09:04] <zircx> ah here it is..
[09:04] <zircx> or something close to TaeBo-
[09:04] <Lovloss> its using wine, but the image flickers
[09:04] <zircx> http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php
[09:04] <Lovloss> a lot
[09:04] <iter> haha virtuaguy: desktop stripper app
[09:04] <unfo> !no, Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment.  Compared to compiz, it provides added effects, such as windows burning down.  See http://forum.beryl-project.org/.  For help, see #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl.
[09:04] <TaeBo-> zircx: Thanks
[09:05] <Lovloss> yeah lol
[09:05] <zircx> np, it's a pretty simple process
[09:05] <TaeBo-> I read that one, it expects you to have access to your linux and use lilo
[09:05] <zircx> it just means your using ntldr to boot instead of grub or in my case , i was using lilo
[09:05] <siXy> afd_, thre are not very many true hardware ide raid controllers out there anymore
[09:05] <unfo> Lovloss: try AMOR or its competitors.
[09:05] <unfo> !amor
[09:05] <zircx> erm
[09:05] <ubotu> amor: a KDE creature for your desktop. In component main, is optional.   Those things can scar young children for life.
[09:07] <TaeBo-> Ok
[09:07] <TaeBo-> I do have a live cd
[09:07] <zcat[1] > too late, my kids found 'grannyparts' all by themselves.. nothing shocks them any more...
[09:07] <unfo> !grannyparts
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grannyparts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <unfo> zcat[1] , :-)
[09:07] <floating> Hi, I tried apt-get install extra fonts, and at the end of apt-get message it says that /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory. Did it install the fonts or not ?
[09:07] <Viper> hi
[09:08] <zcat[1] > kinda like lemonparty, but a whole website of it!!
[09:08] <floating> Hard to google anything for this
[09:08] <Lovloss> she's making a thing out of this. where is this 'Amor'?
[09:08] <TaeBo-> lemonparty haunts me
[09:08] <unfo> Lovloss: sudo apt-get install amor
[09:08] <Viper> i just updated my nvidia driver to the latest one from the one that came default with the ubuntu install and now i'm stuck in the 800x600 resolution
[09:08] <Lovloss> that works for me lol
[09:08] <Viper> what should i do to change it to 1024x968
[09:08] <Kvek> hello
[09:08] <afd_> siXy: it's IT8212
[09:09] <TaeBo-> Zircx:,Unfo:,Zcat:Thanks for the help buddy.
[09:09] <Kvek> I need some help
[09:09] <unfo> TaeBo-: you're welcome.
[09:09] <zcat[1] > !res
[09:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:09] <Lovloss> she has a craptop
[09:09] <Lovloss> heck though, ill install amor
[09:09] <Kvek> anybody know how to install ubuntu on a laptop
[09:10] <unfo> Kvek: there are always five hundred people here who can help.
[09:10] <unfo> Kvek: insert the ubuntu 6.06 cd then reboot
[09:10] <unfo> then click the "install" button on your desktop.
[09:10] <zcat[1] > usually it's just like installing a desktop, but less hardware works out of the box :)
[09:10] <sn9> unfo: 500? out of 871?
[09:10] <Kvek> well i'm booting from cd not HD
[09:11] <Lovloss> where is this amor? i installed it
[09:11] <unfo> sn9: i was estimating :)
[09:11] <unfo> Lovloss: Alt+F2, amor
[09:11] <unfo> then press Enter
[09:11] <me> are there hotkeys for switching around in the workspace manager?
[09:11] <me> i don't see anything under preferences
[09:11] <unfo> Lovloss: if amor does not show up in the menu, that is probably a bug that should be reported to the Ubuntu team.
[09:11] <iter> ctrl-alt-left arrow
[09:12] <iter> ctrl-alt-right arrow
[09:12] <me> where did you find these commands?
[09:12] <iter> no idea
[09:12] <unfo> Lovloss: if so, feel free to report it at the proper site.
[09:12] <me> how do i move a program to another window?
[09:12] <crazy_bus> join #kubuntu
[09:13] <Kvek> can somebody here please help me?
[09:13] <iter> me: can you right click on the title bar and choose workspace?
[09:13] <J-_> Whenever I open Opera, top says I have a zombie? is that normal?
[09:13] <me> oh that's nice
[09:13] <me> ty for that
[09:13] <unfo> Kvek: sorry. see http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:13] <Adross> When I uninstall things, the .debs remain on the system. Where are they and how can i delete them?
[09:13] <sn9> 871 people here and nobody has any idea why firefox would SIGILL?
[09:13] <unfo> sn9: see irc.mozilla.org #firefox
[09:13] <me> what are the hotkeys for switching tabs in firefox?
[09:13] <Lovloss> hey. amor is just dancing penguins
[09:14] <unfo> Lovloss: right click -> change character
[09:14] <Lovloss> i think she wants the male strippers :P
[09:14] <iter> Adross: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:14] <unfo> me: ctrl+pageup ctrl+pagedown
[09:14] <sn9> unfo: i'm positive they'd send me back here for an ubuntu-specific problem
[09:14] <Adross> iter: can i just safely rm -rf that folder?
[09:15] <sn9> Adross: no
[09:15] <iter> Adross: leave the folder
[09:15] <iter> Adross: you can rm the contents
[09:15] <unfo> sn9: oh. then try: sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser
[09:15] <Adross> how can i empty it then?
[09:15] <unfo> maybe?
[09:15] <sn9> Adross: sudo apt-get clean
[09:15] <Adross> what's the command?
[09:15] <J-_> Whenever I open Opera, top says I have a zombie, is that normal?
[09:15] <iter> Adross: yep apt-get clean
[09:16] <frantic> does anyone know when wine 0.9.25 is gunna be in the ubuntu repositories?
[09:16] <iter> me: I like ctrl-tab and ctrl-shift-tab for firefox tabs
[09:16] <Adross> when i try to install ubuntu-desktop, after that command, it shows that they are still held locally
[09:16] <sn9> J-_: i don't think so, but i'll open opera to check
[09:16] <J-_> sn9: thanks
[09:16] <Kvek> what am i looking for on the forums page?
[09:16] <unfo> frantic: nobody here is likely to know.  You can always build it yourself.  But why do you want 0.9.25?
[09:16] <unfo> Kvek: "Post a New Question"
[09:17] <sn9> frantic: use the budgetdedicated repository
[09:17] <Kvek> well i'm trying to install Ubuntu now
[09:17] <frantic> WoW is supposed to work, no fuss
[09:17] <frantic> could never get it to work before
[09:17] <frantic> And although I quit, I think that's awesome
[09:17] <unfo> frantic: are you sure it'll work no fuss? did they fix the memory management patch-and-recompile issue?
[09:18] <unfo> frantic: also, don't go back :)
[09:18] <frantic> and i happen to have time left on my account :///
[09:18] <unfo> Kvek: then install it :)
[09:18] <frantic> I don't know, I just read that 0.9.25 fixed whatever pissed WoW off
[09:18] <Kvek> what would cause the install process to freeze?
[09:19] <unfo> Kvek: dunno. Try the alternate install CD.
[09:19] <sn9> J-_: zombie here
[09:19] <Kvek> i only got 1 cd
[09:19] <J-_> sn9: weird, thanks for checking
[09:19] <unfo> Kvek: you can download the alternate cd online.
[09:19] <unfo> also, consider Ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10 or 5.10
[09:19] <Kvek> i have Ubuntu 6.06
[09:20] <unfo> Kvek: try 6.10 alternate cd, or else use 6.10.
[09:20] <Kvek> ok thanks
[09:20] <unfo> Kvek: or ask your question again, but be specific.
[09:20] <unfo> !smart questions
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smart questions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <eyequeue> Kvek, someone more fluent might ask you where in the install it froze
[09:20] <unfo> !smart-questions
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smart-questions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Kvek> configuring power managment
[09:21] <eyequeue> Kvek, there are some boot switches that overcome some hardware problems, for example
[09:21] <watson540> geeks of the world unite i need some help
[09:21] <unfo> !smart questions is <reply>Please be more specific.  You can get some tips on how to better ask your question at http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:21] <watson540> Im into dependancy hell whilst trying to install kde!!
[09:22] <frantic> don't you just install kde-desktop or something
[09:22] <watson540> i did a 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and now it wont let me get past these damn broken pythion packages
[09:22] <eyequeue> Kvek, i know nothing about that, sorry, my only guess might be to experiment with bios options (after writing down the original)
[09:22] <watson540> so i cant finish my install of kde!!
[09:22] <Kvek> where do i find the bios options?
[09:22] <watson540> i've tried everything i can ..running apt-get -f install, removing the package ..etc
[09:22] <watson540> can anyone help??
[09:22] <frantic> oh a bunch of python packages?
[09:22] <frantic> like python 2.4 packages?
[09:23] <unfo> Kvek: either: 1) try rebooting and try installing again, or 2) try the 6.10 install cd, or 3) ask on www.ubuntuforums.org if nobody here answers your question after 1 hour :)
[09:23] <watson540> frantic, yes, specifically its stopping on pythonsip2.4
[09:23] <eyequeue> Kvek, when you boot your machine, depending on which mfr, etc, you press f2 or esc or some key, you'll see it on the splash at boot usually
[09:23] <watson540> should i rebot? doubt it would help
[09:23] <frantic> heh, my apt is locked at the moment
[09:23] <dankmiser> good morning everyon
[09:23] <watson540> this sucklls...
[09:23] <dankmiser> anyone know why xmms would just keep buffering over and over again for aac?
[09:23] <frantic> but umm when i updated to edgy, i had a bunch of python packages that would not update
[09:23] <frantic> i had to do them manually
[09:24] <unfo> Kvek: try setting "ACPI Aware O/S" or "Enable Power Mgmt" other similar settings to "Off" or "On"
[09:24] <watson540> friggin gnome started hard locking ion me every time i started it  so i figured what the hay man, i never liked gnome anyway, 'apt-get remove gnome' and 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' but cmon wtyth man
[09:24] <unfo> good luck all.
[09:24] <watson540> i thought crap like this was a thing of the past as in 1993
[09:24] <frantic> haha
[09:24] <frantic> apt-get remove gnome <--- why oh god
[09:24] <watson540> friggin cant upgrade, and cant fix the brpookken packages
[09:25] <watson540> unless i remove all of kubuntu desktop and start over, but hey then itll just freeze at the same point all over again
[09:25] <frantic> i think you should just download a kubuntu cd and install that
[09:26] <watson540> might as friggin well, and wouldnt be a problem, umm except for that i dont have any blank cd's! heh
[09:26] <frantic> but man, don't uninstall gnome before you get kde operating!
[09:26] <watson540> any way to do a network install?
[09:26] <watson540> bah gnome was just hard locking my computrer anyway, what good does that do me?
[09:26] <watson540> heh
[09:27] <frantic> i doubt gnome was doing that
[09:27] <dankmiser> btw, beryl is AWESOME, just got it up and goin
[09:27] <watson540> i swear it was
[09:27] <watson540> i would start X with just an xterm and it was fine.,... if i kickstarted gnome-session through that xterm ...hard lock
[09:27] <zcat[1] > dankmiser: Yeah, that lasts about half an hour. Then you go into config and switch off about 75% of the effects before it drives you insane .. :)
[09:27] <watson540> all started when i was working on getting my tv out going on my ati card
[09:28] <watson540> which right now kde has me in a friggin virtual resolution on both screeens yay
[09:28] <frantic> xgl, compiz, aiglx or anything?
[09:28] <watson540> but i used a stock xorg.,conf and everything..gnome just died
[09:28] <frantic> weird
[09:28] <iter> zcat[1] : I still use beryl every day
[09:28] <sn9> watson540: what a coincidence -- that's what eventually led me to a non-working firefox
[09:28] <watson540> nah i removed all that junk
[09:29] <zcat[1] > iter: with the default settings?
[09:29] <iter> zcat[1] : some effects suck but you just turn em off
[09:29] <watson540> man  this install is only 2 days old tooo wth man
[09:29] <lucychili> hi folks
[09:29] <iter> zcat[1] : well no of course
[09:29] <zcat[1] > It's nice, but the default is just showing off all the effects..
[09:30] <lakbu> has anyone know how to setup a linux streaming media server that streams video wmv, avi, mpg ?
[09:30] <nub_> ok, now i need a little help with wine :/
[09:30] <lucychili> wondering if there is an a4 flyer i can use to give to politicians as a quick introduction to ubuntu
[09:30] <lucychili> i can print them out if there is a pdf
[09:30] <Vich> eeeek
[09:31] <nub_> i try to run winecfg, and it gives me this error:
[09:31] <nub_> exec: 29: /usr/local/bin/wine: not found
[09:31] <Vich> I killed ubuntu :s
[09:31] <dankmiser> zcat[1]  yea I toned it way down from the start
[09:31] <watson540> man this apt database is trashed is there no way around it?
[09:31] <nub_> it's there in the directory listing, but something is telling it that it's not there
[09:31] <Vich> I installed a wireless card driver that I learned had problems AFTER I installed it
[09:31] <Vich> rebooting in safe mode to remove it ;/
[09:31] <sn9> nub_: where did you get wine?
[09:31] <battousaix19> hello
[09:31] <watson540> ima just try to build these3 brokens from source i guess oh friggin boy
[09:32] <nub_> the ubuntu forums. i'm using the amd64 version of ubuntu
[09:32] <battousaix19> i love ubuntu, but i feel sorta bad
[09:32] <nub_> there is no package for wine yet
[09:32] <zcat[1] > beryl is cool though. Still trying to get it to play nice with fullscreen games and video, but at least I got it running dual-head between the screen and TVout now.. big step.
[09:32] <nub_> sn9: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297280
[09:32] <sn9> nub_: wine will not work on amd64. wipe it and install i386
[09:32] <battousaix19> and ive made a chioce to learn how to program in order to give back to the community and open source somehow:)
[09:33] <malv-laptop> how is the support for the intel 965 boards under Ubuntu?
[09:33] <Vich> lol, how nice of you battousaix19
[09:33] <battousaix19> lol, really, im set on learning how to program based to help the community
[09:33] <me> what's the website on how to properly install nvidia-glx drivers?
[09:33] <nub_> funny, all these people in this thread are saying it works fine.
[09:33] <battousaix19> and im a user of ubuntu, somtimes kubuntu tho;)
[09:33] <zcat[1] > !nv
[09:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <juancarlos> me: google for it.
[09:34] <Vich> no such luck on recovery mode
[09:34] <Vich> still freezes at startup :s
[09:34] <Vich> I'm officially screwed
[09:34] <zcat[1] > I just apt-get install nvidia-glx and then adjust the xorg.conf by hand..
[09:34] <battousaix19> does any coding language mateter for debugging other then c and c++??
[09:34] <zcat[1] > but that's probably not what the wiki says to do
[09:34] <Vich> mateter?
[09:35] <battousaix19> oops, srry *matter
[09:35] <Vich> that sentence still makes little sense if you meant matter
[09:35] <Vich> do you mean does every coding language offer debugging?
[09:35] <battousaix19> does any other language really matter for debugging??
[09:35] <sn9> nub_: they don't seem to be saying that the way i read
[09:35] <Vich> o_O
[09:36] <Vich> how can a language matter for debugging?
[09:36] <zcat[1] > depends what you want to work on.. not much point learning C if you weant to hack something that was written in python or java..
[09:36] <Vich> lol
[09:36] <Vich> I still have no idea exactly what he means
[09:36] <battousaix19> since i want to contribute by debugging, and im wondering if c ad c++ are the only 1's worth my time to learn
[09:36] <Vich> OH
[09:36] <zcat[1] > debugging what?
[09:36] <Vich> you want to learn a program to assist with debugging
[09:36] <battousaix19> cablah:P, lol
[09:36] <Vich> (a programming language)
[09:36] <battousaix19> yes:)
[09:36] <Vich> lolol
[09:37] <juangt> battousaix19: debugging is the process of finding bugs on a program, regardless of the language
[09:37] <Vich> indeed
[09:37] <Vich> BUT
[09:37] <Vich> I think he's asking what the main languages are
[09:37] <gangien> learn cobol
[09:37] <bhudda> can someone link me to installing wine under Edgy 64?
[09:37] <battousaix19> basically
[09:37] <juangt> battousaix19: googlefight.com and see which is the most popular
[09:37] <Vich> I'd say c++ and python
[09:37] <Vich> lol
[09:37] <juangt> that way you can help the most people :-)
[09:37] <battousaix19> cuz i dont think bein a master of ryuby will help me debug c code;)
[09:38] <Vich> it should help
[09:38] <Vich> ruby is similar syntax
[09:38] <battousaix19> pythin is used THAT much in linux??
[09:38] <Vich> it's all good experience
[09:38] <Vich> I know heaps of languages
[09:38] <Vich> yeah it's used a lot
[09:38] <Vich> for apps, widgets, etc
[09:38] <zcat[1] > I just try to write good bug reports... I can't code worth a damn.
[09:38] <Vich> easy to code as well
[09:38] <Vich> lol;
[09:39] <battousaix19> coul du give me a ballpark guess in % in your experience, the language sum of all of linux;)
[09:39] <gangien> oi
[09:39] <juangt> lol
[09:39] <battousaix19> like 50% c, 20% pything, etc?
[09:39] <gangien> i'd say 50% sphaghetti code
[09:39] <sn9> battousaix19: for debugging, nothing beats assembly language
[09:39] <zcat[1] > 2% curse words
[09:39] <juangt> buttousaix19: once you become good with a language, you'll be good with any of them so don't worry about choosing one
[09:40] <TheMoebius> I'm trying to run an application that I compiled that needs the libOgreMain, which I compiled from source and installed using checkinstall. But when I try to run my application it says that it can't find libOgreMain.so.12. I checked and it does exist in /usr/local/lib. how do I get my app to see the lib?
[09:41] <KnowledgEngi> ufff
[09:41] <KnowledgEngi> kernel panic
[09:41] <nub_> nice
[09:41] <battousaix19> ok well w/e;), i guess ill learn c based on id like to understand the bulk of linux code so i can see mistakes
[09:41] <sn9> TheMoebius: your first mistake was acknowledging that checkinstall even exists
[09:41] <gangien> battousaix19: do you know other languages? if not c is probably not the best language to start out with
[09:42] <KnowledgEngi> i has download kernel source from www.kernel.org
[09:42] <KnowledgEngi> unpacked it
[09:42] <juangt> battousaix19: C is good.
[09:42] <gimmulf_> Is there any great mediaplayer except xmms/rhythmbox/mplayer
[09:42] <nub_> videolan
[09:42] <KnowledgEngi> cp /boot/config---- /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/.config
[09:42] <Celldweller> yup
[09:42] <juangt> gimmulf: vlc & totem
[09:42] <KnowledgEngi> make oldconfig
[09:42] <TheMoebius> ya, i think C is good for starting out with, makes you learn about real programming before you go on to the fake stuff like c++ and java
[09:43] <Celldweller> vlc plays almost everything
[09:43] <KnowledgEngi> make menuconfig
[09:43] <battousaix19> lol, not really must exp at all, i learned sum pascal in school, and have searched for languages based on their stengths and weaknesses compared to others
[09:43] <KnowledgEngi> add some support
[09:43] <KnowledgEngi> make prepare
[09:43] <gangien> low level != real programming
[09:43] <nub_> if you know pascal, you almost know c
[09:43] <juangt> battousaix19: pascal sucks :-)
[09:43] <KnowledgEngi> make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install && make install
[09:43] <zcat[1] > learn python. It's nice
[09:44] <KnowledgEngi> and after i has changed menu.lst
[09:44] <zcat[1] > KnowledgEngi: you probably need to build an initrd
[09:44] <KnowledgEngi> but when i reboot i have kernel panic
[09:44] <battousaix19> becuz, for sum reason, i just have a liking for ada... i have been comparing it to others and it just seems so adaptable and productive
[09:44] <battousaix19> i know, i hate pascal, lol
[09:44] <KnowledgEngi> probabily yes zcat[1]
[09:44] <battousaix19> but i learnt it for grades;), so i had to, lol
[09:44] <KnowledgEngi> how can i build the initrd
[09:44] <KnowledgEngi> ???
[09:44] <zcat[1] > mkinitrd ?
[09:45] <TheMoebius> KnowledgEngi: yeah when you recompile your kernel there are many things that can go wrong. why did you have to recompile?
[09:45] <battousaix19> and seeing that ada is the chioce for the department of defnce and almost all avionics systems out there, i REALLY respect that
[09:45] <KnowledgEngi> becouse i need Time frequency = 1000
[09:45] <KnowledgEngi> 1000 mHz
[09:46] <KnowledgEngi>  becouse 250 mHz is not good for rosegarden
[09:46] <zcat[1] > I suspect there's something in /proc you can write to change that :)
[09:46] <juangt> i go to gatech, and i see avionic systems made in java, c, matlab, and suck lol
[09:46] <juangt> such*lol
[09:46] <sn9> battousaix19: if that's why you like ada, you'll love forth
[09:46] <gangien> writing to /proc?
[09:46] <gangien> i didn't think you could write to /proc
[09:46] <battousaix19> forth eh??
[09:47] <KnowledgEngi> TheMoebius,
[09:47] <KnowledgEngi> root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>#
[09:47] <juangt> well, im off to bed.. gnight all
[09:47] <KnowledgEngi> i must run mkinitrd in this path ?
[09:47] <dibblego> how do I find out how to configure dual head for fglrx?
[09:47] <zcat[1] > lots of stuff on /proc/ is writeable, it's how you tweak kernel settings without having to recompile
[09:48] <gangien> cool thought it was read only
[09:48] <KnowledgEngi> root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS># mkinitrd
[09:48] <KnowledgEngi> bash: mkinitrd: command not found
[09:48] <zcat[1] > sorry, mkinitramfs .. check the man page, you have to give it paths and stuff too..
[09:49] <darko3d> how can i play flv files, is there a player i can download?
[09:49] <KnowledgEngi> Usage: /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs [OPTION] ... <-o outfile> [version]
[09:49] <KnowledgEngi> but i do not know what option use
[09:50] <battousaix19> 1 other thing....
[09:50] <sn9> i guess if nobody can help me get firefox not to SIGILL, i'll be off...
[09:50] <battousaix19> is it possibel to convert to to another language
[09:51] <noiesmo> darko3d, I use mplayer for flv's
[09:51] <darko3d> noiesma: you mean movie player
[09:51] <thor> test
[09:51] <Guest007> !test
[09:52] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:52] <KnowledgEngi> root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS># mkinitramfs -k -o initrd-<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:52] <noiesmo> !mplayer
[09:52] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[09:52] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:52] <thor> test
[09:53] <noiesmo> !mplayer > darko3d
[09:53] <darko3d> i got that the first time, thanks!
[09:53] <Guest007> !test | thor
[09:53] <ubotu> thor: Failed.
[09:53] <zcat[1] > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq  -- I wonder if that's what rosegarden wants :)
[09:54] <KnowledgEngi> root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS># mkinitramfs -k -o initrd-<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:54] <KnowledgEngi> Working files in /tmp/mkinitramfs_Kh4755 and overlay in /tmp/mkinitramfs-OL_bR4756
[09:54] <KnowledgEngi> the initrd is mkinitramfs-OL_bR4756 ??
[09:56] <zcat[1] > KnowledgEngi: you probably want  "mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:57] <wiz> Is it possible to enable/disable tv-out without restarting X?
[09:58] <darko3d> i made a new directory on the root, and i am getting, You do not have permissions to write to this folder--how can i add permissions
[09:59] <bruce_> hi
[09:59] <bruce_> ???
[10:00] <noiesmo> darko3d, do you just want one user to write read etc
[10:00] <Guest007> he bruce_
[10:00] <darko3d> yes
[10:00] <bruce_> Ne..
[10:00] <bruce_> yes
[10:00] <noiesmo> darko3d, sudo chown -R username:username /directory
[10:00] <bruce_> This Support korean???
[10:00] <bruce_> English is now....
[10:00] <Guest007> !ko
[10:00] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[10:01] <bruce_> join
[10:01] <mypapit> !ms
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <bruce_> Opps
[10:01] <bruce_> Ooops/!!1
[10:01] <nub_> eh?
[10:01] <Guest007> bruce_ :)
[10:01] <wiz> Is it possible to enable/disable tv-out without restarting X?
[10:01] <bruce_> Ne???
[10:01] <bruce_> Me???
[10:01] <zcat[1] > wiz: don't think so
[10:01] <darko3d> thats, that worked
[10:02] <wiz> zcat[1] , damn
[10:02] <wiz> zcat[1] , I didn't think so, but you never know eh?
[10:02] <defrysk> wiz, with the latest nvidia-drivers you can
[10:02] <zcat[1] > Well there you go :)
[10:02] <Guest007> !this_bot_is_the_bomb
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about this_bot_is_the_bomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <zcat[1] > !botabuse
[10:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:03] <wiz> defrysk, what version?
[10:03] <darko3d> ok, i moved a file to that directory, but when i left click on it, the rename function is disabled, how can i rename that file?
[10:03] <Guest007> sorry zcat[1]  :-)
[10:03] <defrysk> amaranth has a beta version available in his repo doing just that
[10:03] <Amaranth> doing what?
[10:04] <Amaranth> and they aren't beta :P
[10:04] <noiesmo> darko3d, sudo chmod -r 755 /directory
[10:04] <zcat[1] > Amaranth's repo is only for edgy?
[10:04] <defrysk> Amaranth, no beta , but the last stable now :) ?
[10:04] <Amaranth> defrysk: yeah, it's the 9629 stable release
[10:05] <Amaranth> and it's edgy onlu
[10:05] <Amaranth> err, only
[10:05] <Amaranth> afaik the 9xxx drivers don't work correctly with xorg 7.0
[10:05] <defrysk> wiz, edgy only add "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm" to your sources.list
[10:05] <ajmitch> thankfully the 9629 drivers are in feisty now
[10:05] <wiz> defrysk, is it like new nvidia-settings in conjunction with the newest driver? I'm not finding anything in the readme about how?
[10:05] <Amaranth> ajmitch: they are?
[10:06] <Amaranth> ajmitch: that'd be the 2.6.19-6 l-r-m then?
[10:06] <wiz> defrysk, so I have to dist upgrade?
[10:06] <ajmitch> ii  nvidia-glx                            1.0.9629+<IP_ADDRESS>-1                   NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[10:06] <ajmitch> Amaranth: yep
[10:06] <zcat[1] > lrm?
[10:06] <defrysk> wiz, new nvidia-settings yes , including probing your tv and changing setting all as normal user
[10:06] <malv-laptop> would ubuntu work well in an enterprise environment?
[10:06] <ajmitch> however I'd hardly recommend people upgrade to feisty
[10:06] <zcat[1] > malv-laptop: it makes a sweet webserver
[10:06] <darko3d> No such file or directory, i got this <--- and now i can't access the folder at all
[10:06] <wiz> defrysk, Do I need to dist upgrade to edgy?
[10:07] <malv-laptop> zcat[1] , but is it stable enough?
[10:07] <malv-laptop> RHEL stable?
[10:07] <zcat[1] > dapper is..
[10:07] <malv-laptop> Currently we are debating whether to continue using CentOS, or switch to Fedora/Ubuntu
[10:08] <cari_tmen_ce> ha
[10:08] <zcat[1] >  22:07:58 up 132 days, 21:48,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00   -- seems stable enough
[10:08] <malv-laptop> there are also the aesthetics. Ubuntu default theme is bleh.
[10:08] <darko3d> nvm, i fixed that
[10:09] <zcat[1] > theme? you run a gui on your servers?!!
[10:09] <malv-laptop> they are workstations
[10:09] <fourat> which application can i use to burn CDs on ubuntu (gnome)
[10:09] <zcat[1] > ahhh...
[10:09] <malv-laptop> in a networked environment
[10:09] <zcat[1] > change the theme then... there are lots
[10:09] <tom47> fouat nautilus
[10:09] <tom47> fourat nautilus
[10:09] <malv-laptop> true, I could always do that
[10:09] <zcat[1] > not like XP is all that nice, and people use that OK
[10:09] <malv-laptop> RHEL is too out of date with many of the applications
[10:10] <malv-laptop> but its very stable and reliable
[10:10] <Guest007> fourat, I like k3b
[10:10] <Sjaakmans> Hello
[10:10] <tom47> malv-laptop how many desktops are we talking about?
[10:11] <Sjaakmans> Does somebody have aiglx running with prosavage on ubuntu?
[10:11] <Sjaakmans> I tried it but i didn't work :(
[10:11] <malv-laptop> tom47, it's just a lab of 10 in a research environment
[10:11] <nub_> how long should it take to compile wine on an athlon x2 3800?
[10:11] <jrib> malv-laptop: dapper should do well
[10:12] <noiesmo> darko3d, did you replace username with your username and /directory with the actual /directoryname
[10:12] <wiz> If I've regularly used: gksu "update-manager -c" after my dapper install a month or so ago, I'm on edgy for all intensive purposes no?
[10:12] <darko3d> yeah, nvm i fixed it, i used the command you gave again, and it worked
[10:13] <jrib> wiz: well you are either on edgy or you aren't, if you are inlimbo, you'd want to take care of that :)
[10:13] <malv-laptop> why is the latest version of ubuntu somewhat buggy?
[10:13] <wiz> jrib: I ran gksu "update-manager -c"  and clicked the "new distribution available" yes install
[10:13] <wiz> jrib, that'll put me edgy won't it?
[10:13] <malv-laptop> and I am still wondering why that nautilus bug has not been fixed yet
[10:14] <jrib> malv-laptop: less time for edgy since dapper was delayed is the main reason imo.  Also, the goals were to focus less ons tability, since dapper was there for that
[10:14] <malv-laptop> ok
[10:14] <jrib> wiz: yes, as long as it is successful
[10:14] <babo> Can I boot up ubuntu from a usb drive ?
[10:15] <jrib> babo: there's a page somewhere on the wiki about it
[10:16] <noika> Hey guys ....anyone knows how do i install a chess game?
[10:16] <tom47> malv-laptop dapper is the recommended version for production use ... it enjoys longer term support than a 'normal' release like edgy and is very very stable ... against that, like all production/stable releases you will be less than cutting edge
[10:16] <jrib> babo: this is what I have seen, there may be more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[10:16] <malv-laptop> Ok, you guys convinced me. I will try out dapper
[10:16] <malv-laptop> In my experience, Dapper has been very good
[10:17] <jrib> noika: install gnome-chess if you are in gnome maybe
[10:17] <Vich> my ubuntu freezes at startup :/
[10:17] <sky123> malv-laptop: it is pretty stable..however the "cutting" edge features are always with the newer releases
[10:17] <osfameron> edgy seems pretty stable to me
[10:17] <jrib> noika: there are plenty of games in synaptic if you search for "chess"
[10:17] <babo> jrib: that's to install ubuntu on a pendrive. I just want to boot from a usb drive ...
[10:17] <osfameron> and some of the stuff (power management, networking) that tends to suck on linux for laptops works better on edgy
[10:17] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: try knights, its the best chess game ive seen
[10:18] <noiesmo> !d4x
[10:18] <ubotu> d4x: graphical download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-2 (edgy), package size 706 kB, installed size 2016 kB
[10:18] <Kawaii-Panda> it also supports online matches and skins
[10:18] <noika> panda ..where do i get that game?
[10:18] <sky123> babo: I think you'll have to play with this...but the boot.img isa key component..if you can get it on there...then have it boot of the usb you might just have success.
[10:18] <Kawaii-Panda> from synaptic
[10:19] <jrib> babo: so, to install from a usb stick?
[10:19] <Kawaii-Panda> !knights
[10:19] <ubotu> knights: A chess interface for the K Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 784 kB, installed size 1764 kB
[10:19] <noika> and most important how do i install it..i am new in ubuntu
[10:19] <nante> jrib: how do i copy games from the packages.ubuntu.com to install to a pc at home without a net connection... want to play abuse and other rpg games
[10:19] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: open a terminal then type sudo apt-get knights
[10:20] <Beta_M> i've accidentally removed myself from sudo group... what do i do?
[10:20] <jrib> nante: best way would be if you had another debian-based computer with a net connection.  Then you could use apt-zip.  Otherwise, you'll have to manually download the debs and all the needed dependencies
[10:20] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: you can open a terminal in applications->accessories->terminal
[10:20] <sky123> nokia - System, Administration. Synaptic Package Manager
[10:20] <noika> from terminal??
[10:20] <jrib> Beta_M: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then 'adduser user_name admin'
[10:20] <sonikku> anybody about?
[10:20] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: its the fastest way.
[10:21] <noika> i did
[10:21] <noika> it sais invalid operation knights
[10:21] <jrib> noika: you can install everything in synaptic that you can install with apt-get, the command should be  sudo apt-get install knights
[10:22] <sonikku> having a problem configuring my machine to work with an existing wifi network- it's rejecting the key saying its the wrong length, the key on the network is 10 digits of hex, is there some way i can override this behavior?
[10:22] <noika> Reading package lists... Done
[10:22] <noika> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:22] <noika> E: Couldn't find package knights
[10:22] <noika> ideall@ideall-desktop:~$
[10:22] <Seeker`> nokia: apt-get install knights
[10:22] <jrib> !info knights
[10:22] <ubotu> knights: A chess interface for the K Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 784 kB, installed size 1764 kB
[10:22] <nante> jrib: i cant do what you suggest because i have no free hard disk to install ubuntu to do apt-zip
[10:22] <jrib> !universe | noika
[10:22] <ubotu> noika: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:22] <Sjaakmans> SOmebody with compiz?
[10:22] <nante> is there a way to zip all those files and burn them to a cd and then install it at home?
[10:22] <jrib> nante: then you have to use my second suggestion :P
[10:23] <nante> jrib: i have flashget installed and i sure can download all the available links... i just dont know where to put them, can you give me instructions on how to do your second suggestion? :P
[10:24] <jrib> nante: hmm, I suppose you could just drop them in /var/cache/apt/archives, or you can just install the debs by double clicking on them or using dpkg
[10:24] <jrib> nante: make sure you get the right versions for your version of ubuntu
[10:24] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: sudo apt-get install knights
[10:24] <jrib> noika needs universe
[10:25] <nante> so i download the links from the website then put them all in the /var/cache/apt/archives then burn the cd right?
[10:25] <noika> panda here is what i  get
[10:25] <noika> ideall@ideall-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install knights
[10:25] <noika> Reading package lists... Done
[10:25] <noika> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:25] <noika> E: Couldn't find package knights
[10:25] <noika> ideall@ideall-desktop:~$
[10:25] <jrib> noika: please don't paste here
[10:25] <jrib> noika: have you enabled universe?
[10:25] <noika> k
[10:26] <noika> how do i enable universe?
[10:26] <jrib> !universe | noika
[10:26] <ubotu> noika: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:26] <Acke_ubu> !mac
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Acke_ubu> !macosz
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macosz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Acke_ubu> !macosx
[10:26] <jrib> !msgthebot | Acke_ubu
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macosx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <ubotu> Acke_ubu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:26] <Acke_ubu> thanks jr
[10:26] <Acke_ubu> jrib
[10:27] <Acke_ubu> how do i burn an bootable ubuntu installer image in macosx?
[10:27] <KennyPB> Toast
[10:27] <nante> jrib: i just download the links/files then burn them in the /var/cache/apt/archives in the cd?
[10:28] <mnepton> Acke_ubu: Firestarter
[10:28] <jrib> nante: hmm, no I meant you could just copy the files onto your machine's folder.  I'm not sure how to create an apt repository on a cd offhand
[10:28] <minimec> Hi folks. After upgrading to edgy I 'lost' almost all the system fonts in scribus. The only fonts I have is Courier and Bitstream. Not really funny ... :( So anyone of you confronted with the same problem? Should I manually add the font path in the preferences?
[10:29] <nante> ah, lol, i wish somebody can point me to the right direction... i want to play rpg games this weekend
[10:29] <noika> ok now how do i edit this ''/etc/apt/sources.list''
[10:29] <noika> so that i enable universe
[10:29] <jrib> noika: are you following the wiki instructions?
[10:30] <noika> wiki?
[10:30] <jrib> noika: or help.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <umops> minimec, sure, why not just set the path.
[10:30] <GNUro> Hi!
[10:30] <Rulzern> having a rather strange problem here, when I boot, I get stuck at the second fsck (the one for /home), and it just sits there, doing nothing, if I press ctrl-alt-del I can boot, but I have to mount the /home directory manually, doing a manual fsck of that drive works fine, any ideas?
[10:31] <GNUro> what is the different about linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic and linux-image-2.6.17-10-386?
[10:31] <minimec> umops: Does that work? Why add the same path, that the x-server is loading at boot?
[10:31] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: this might be easier to understand, http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#enabling_extra_repositories
[10:32] <Kawaii-Panda> !linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:32] <ubotu> linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17-10.33 (edgy), package size 22074 kB, installed size 65144 kB
[10:32] <Kawaii-Panda> !linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-386
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <Kawaii-Panda> !linux-image-2.6.17-10-386
[10:32] <ubotu> linux-image-2.6.17-10-386: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.17 on i386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17-10.33 (edgy), package size 21948 kB, installed size 63232 kB
[10:32] <umops> minimec, I guess it just needs to be reconfigured, perhaps it couldnt find the correct path when you wre upgrading
[10:32] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: mmm
[10:33] <umops> Rulzern, how do you mean mount manually?
[10:33] <Kawaii-Panda> GNUro: generic is for x64 processors, i386 is for x86 processors :)
[10:34] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: are you sure? linux-image-k7 - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic
[10:34] <Kawaii-Panda> yes
[10:34] <GNUro> i've a atlhon 32-bit K7
[10:34] <Kawaii-Panda> im using the generic right now with my athlon k8
[10:34] <noika> !universe
[10:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:35] <minimec> umops: Well I did a dpkg-reconfigure defoma .. and dpkg-reconfigure scribus ... no success.
[10:35] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: are you using nvidia drivers?
[10:35] <Kawaii-Panda> yeah.
[10:35] <Kawaii-Panda> to enable beryl
[10:35] <Kawaii-Panda> why?
[10:35] <umops> minimec, that's interesting, did it pick up the correct path?  Any errors?
[10:36] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: you got things working yet?
[10:36] <Kawaii-Panda> if no i can guide you thru the whole thing while im having my snack.
[10:36] <Kawaii-Panda> :)
[10:36] <minimec> umops: No errors neither with defoma, nor with scribus ...
[10:37] <jarrad> Tragedy has struck, My Cube is broken, Beryl is fine, but the cube is no longer working, Has this happend to anyone before?
[10:37] <Kawaii-Panda> jarrad: maybe you disabled the cube accidentally
[10:37] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: cool! :) why i've upgraded at last beta driver, but it doesn't work... when start X the screen on tty7 is BLACK; so i've downgraded to nvidia-8xxx, but apt-get have installed a new kernel image -386.. :(
[10:37] <jarrad> I thought that might have been a possibility, but apperntly i didn't know
[10:38] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: PS  my english is ORRIBLE :)
[10:38] <minimec> umops: Well I don't think that it is a defoma problem. The fonts are there with all the other software... It seems to be a gnome/kde libraries issue, I guess.
[10:38] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: i hope that you understand! :)
[10:38] <Kawaii-Panda> GNUro: i do, so what now?
[10:39] <jmspeex> Are there newer kernels one can try for Edgy?
[10:39] <umops> minimec, It does seem that way, which is s shame..I don't think i can help
[10:39] <noika> so guys  how do i enable that ''universe'' anyone here care to help :D
[10:40] <apokryphos> noika: please read the FAQ :)
[10:40] <apokryphos> !faq | noika
[10:40] <ubotu> noika: faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:40] <darko3d> i ran apt-get update, how can i save the changes
[10:40] <darko3d> i ran apt-get update, how can i save the changes
[10:40] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: i don't understand because the only installable nvidia-glx package is compiled for -386 kernel!!
[10:40] <crimsun> jmspeex: not yet.
[10:40] <jrib> darko3d: it's saved
[10:41] <jrib> noika: join me in #ubuntu-classroom and I'll help you step by step
[10:41] <Kawaii-Panda> GNUro: ok, people are gonna hate me for saying this but install automatix. its easier to get the nvidia drivers that way. www.getautomatix.com
[10:41] <darko3d> i ran apt-get update, how can i save the changes
[10:41] <jrib> darko3d: i told you, they are saved
[10:42] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: im sure this would help http://hudzilla.org/brainparty/index.php?title=Installing_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_6.10
[10:42] <darko3d> i just got both messages-bad connection
[10:42] <Kawaii-Panda> noika: stop reading after the  I recommend you just search for them by name: part ok :)
[10:42] <noika> better panda
[10:42] <noika> tks
[10:43] <minimec> umops: THX anyway. I will 'google' around a bit.
[10:43] <Rulzern> umops: I mean "sudo mount /home" :p
[10:44] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: ok, i can install easily the nvidia kernel also from official nvidia homepage, but this it is not a good for Ubuntu... :(
[10:45] <snowblink> hi - does anyone know why hal and dpkg just got updated on Dapper? Can't find a security notice which includes those.
[10:45] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: however thnx! :)
[10:45] <GNUro> Kawaii-Panda: see you!
[10:45] <GNUro> bye guys!
[10:45] <Kawaii-Panda> GNUro: k
[10:45] <GNUro> :)
[10:45] <Kawaii-Panda> GNUro: bye
[10:48] <snowblink> hmm and launchpad is offline.
[10:49] <crimsun> snowblink: weekly update roll-out
[10:49] <crimsun> should be back in an hour
[10:49] <snowblink> crimsun, cheers. Just trying to work out what was updated in hal & dpkg
[10:49] <crimsun> snowblink: for which release?
[10:50] <snowblink> crimsun, Dapper
[10:50] <crimsun> snowblink: meaning dapper-updates?
[10:51] <snowblink> crimsun, I was trying to get the FF updates, and it wanted to also update: dpkg dpkg-dev dselect firefox firefox-gnome-support hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 libnspr4 libnss3
[10:51] <darko3d> how do i fire up apache, and where can i find apache directory
[10:51] <snowblink> darko3d, sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[10:51] <dnite> Is there a way to turn off the sleep button on my keyboard?? i keep hitting it on accident and then my computer doesn't wake up.
[10:52] <fourat> k3b is saying "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device" when trying to burn a CD
[10:53] <darko3d> sudo: /etc/init.d/apache: command not found
[10:53] <dnite> have u installed apache?
[10:53] <dnite> or try /etc/init.d/apache2
[10:54] <crimsun> snowblink: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-November/012301.html and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-November/012302.html , respectively
[10:55] <aliraa> Hi , need help regarding broken sudo by hostname change ... anyone ?
[10:55] <bimberi> aliraa: boot into recovery mode and ensure that /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname have the same name
[10:55] <snowblink> crimsun, thanks. :)
[10:55] <bimberi> (in them)
[10:55] <tlanfer> Mein NFS funktioniert immernoch nicht :( Wenn ich nfs-kernel-server neustarte, hab ich danach im syslog: "RPC: Failed to contact portmap (errno -5)", obwohl portmap luft
[10:55] <pdz> Does ubutnu server work with P1 233Mhz 32MB RAM ?
[10:55] <tlanfer> argh, sry, forgot about language
[10:56] <crimsun> pdz: not optimally, but yes. You'll definitely want lots of swap.
[10:56] <pdz> crimsun: It has only 3GB space :)
[10:56] <aliraa> thanks bimberi , server can only be accessed by SSH ... any alternatives ?
[10:57] <tlanfer> my nfs still wont work. If i restart nfs-kernel-server, i get an "RPC: Failed to contact portmap (errno -5)", though portmap is running (ps aux | grep portmap shows me a running /usr/sbin/portmap)
[10:57] <crimsun> pdz: so you'll want at least 512 MB of swap
[10:57] <bimberi> aliraa: eek, none known to me, although that doesn't mean there aren't any
[10:57] <pdz> crimsun: Does expanding the memory help?
[10:57] <crimsun> pdz: it will, yes
[10:58] <pdz> crimsun: Is it worthy, though
[10:58] <Beta_M> hi, i've innitially removed myself from most of the groups (by accident) just now added me to 'admin' but now i'm not even asked for sudo password, which groups do i need to add myself to so that things are back to normal
[10:58] <crimsun> pdz: "worth it" or "worthy"?
[10:58] <pdz> worth it
[10:58] <Rulzern> having a rather strange problem here, when I boot, I get stuck at the second fsck (the one for /home), and it just sits there, doing nothing, if I press ctrl-alt-del I can boot, but I have to mount the /home directory manually, doing a manual fsck of that drive works fine, any ideas?
[10:58] <crimsun> pdz: probably not if you have a faster machine with more memory
[10:58] <Yoric> Beta_M: iirc, you don't need any group for sudo.
[10:59] <Yoric> You just need to be in the list of sudoers, in file /etc/sudoers
[10:59] <Beta_M> Yoric:  there *is* a sudo group
[10:59] <pdz> crimsun: well, I have. But like, I found this dull computer in the basement. I would like to make use of it
[10:59] <Yoric> Beta_M: well, I can sudo and I'm not in it...
[10:59] <aliraa> is there anyway to "tell" sudo to ignore the hostname ...?
[11:00] <bimberi> Beta_M: "adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin" as well as $USER
[11:01] <afd_> hi guys! I'm using edgy and I remember the integration with KDE apps was a lot better
[11:01] <afd_> what I'm talking about is systray stuff
[11:02] <darko3d> how do i fire up apache, and where can i find apache directory
[11:03] <bimberi> darko3d: sudo invoke-rd.c apache start   (or apache2 if that's what you have installed)  and /etc/apache[2]
[11:03] <bimberi> darko3d: or you might be looking for /var/www which is where the content goes
[11:06] <Beta_M> ok, thanks a lot everybody
[11:06] <Beta_M> q;-)
[11:09] <tlanfer> is there nobody who can tell me, why my nfs-server cant contact portmap?
[11:12] <minimec> umops: Just to inform you. I switched to scribus-ng. the new 1.3 version and ... got my fonts back ;)
[11:12] <fourat> howto erase a cd using nautilus ?
[11:17] <iwkse> hi all. I just added a shortcut to terminal and modified the command from alecarte to gnome-terminal --geometryxxx but when i use the keyboard shortcut it doesn't work..when i click on terminal icon yes. there's a different link for keyboard shortcuts? where i can find it?
[11:18] <SpComb> names
[11:26] <wijnand> morning all
[11:27] <fuse> hi all
[11:28] <wijnand> hi fuse
[11:28] <wijnand> you haven't by any chance upgraded from dapper to edgy using update-manager, have you?
[11:28] <darko3d> how do i install beryl/emerald
[11:29] <wijnand> darko3d have you added multiverse and universe repositories?
[11:30] <bimberi> !beryl | darko3d
[11:30] <ubotu> darko3d: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:30] <wijnand> oh right, xgl
[11:30] <darko3d> wijnand: i removed the # if thast what you means?
[11:31] <nuts`> hum sorry im pretty new to this, whats best for playing mp3s?
[11:31] <MarcoPau> hello, I have this partition in fstab /dev/hda1       /mnt            vfat    defaults,user   0  0 and I don't know why I can't move or copy a file into it. That's why I added uid=marcopau,umask=002, still not obtaining any good result
[11:32] <Rulzern> nuts`: "best" is highly subjective
[11:32] <nuts`> yeah well, the most common
[11:32] <Rulzern> I don't know, I use Amarok
[11:32] <darko3d> #ubuntu-xgl doesn't offer anu support
[11:33] <nuts`> Rulzern: okay, thnax ill try this one
[11:34] <Rulzern> nuts`: you could also look into rhythmbox and xmms for other popular choices
[11:35] <noela> or banshee for the gnome desktop environment (though amaroK is my choice)
[11:36] <bintut> any dhcp3-server users here?
[11:36] <bintut> is it possible in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to have multiple subnets inside a shared-network?  for example, consider this ==>  http://paste.debian.net/17064
[11:38] <darko3d> #ubuntu-xgl doesn't offer anu support, is there a command line for me to install beryl
[11:40] <cybervegan> hey guys - any official ubuntu peeps here?
[11:44] <minimec> darko3d: Did you fallow the wiki indicated on the #ubuntu-xgl channel?
[11:44] <elkbuntu> cybervegan, what do you mean by 'official ubuntu peeps'
[11:45] <cybervegan> well i've got a q re: the policy on mono, in the light of a) the Nov/MS deal and b) Java going GPL
[11:45] <crimsun> the "peeps" are in -devel.
[11:45] <rioghal> heh, 'peeps'
[11:47] <cybervegan> crimsun - is that #ubuntu-devel then?
[11:49] <philipsmith> Hi. I installed KDE over gnome and can't get gnome to work anymore. Also, there are many other things that just aren't working any more like sound, flash, etc. I'm sort of at the end of my rope. Can I reinstall Ubuntu? How can I do this?
[11:50] <rioghal> philipsmith, kde and gnome can co-exist side-by-side. how did you install kde?
[11:50] <philipsmith> rioghal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <rioghal> philipsmith, wow, ive done that dozens of times and it hasnt caused a problem. you on edgy?
[11:51] <philipsmith> rioghal: Dapper
[11:52] <rioghal> philipsmith, thats weird
[11:52] <philipsmith> rioghal: Can I just back up my data and reinstall Ubuntu from the CD?
[11:53] <rioghal> philipsmith, sure you can, but before you go through all that work, are you willing to get rid of kde?
[11:53] <darko3d> just noticed that, i'll try it and get back to you
[11:53] <philipsmith> rioghal: KDE must go. It is not at all wife-friendly.
[11:53] <rioghal> philipsmith, have a look at this page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[11:54] <Rulzern> can't you just set gnome as the default session in gdm?
[11:54] <rioghal> philipsmith, i have used that to rid my system of all kde stuff and return to gnome
[11:54] <rioghal> Rulzern, his gnome wont work
[11:54] <Rulzern> oh
[11:54] <fnf> !compiz
[11:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:54] <rioghal> philipsmith, i think you can try that puregnome page before re-installing ubuntu
[11:55] <philipsmith> riogal: Are you certain? If I uninstall KDE, I fear I wont have any desktop at all!
[11:56] <rioghal> philipsmith, also, you might want to look into using aptitude instead of apt-get as aptitude will uninstall the app *and* all the files that were installed with it whereas apt-get on dapper wont uninstall all the other files
[11:56] <incorrect> i've just confused my system to use winbind, but for some strange reason xscreensaver crashes when i lock the terminal
[11:57] <LeSfOlIeSdEpIgAl> hello!
[11:57] <rioghal> philipsmith, well, it worked for me, but that isnt saying much. you should back everything up first just in case and be prepared for the worst since that problem seems unusual
[11:57] <philipsmith> rioghal: ok, I'll try.  I can't get a terminal window open to issue the "sudo aptitute remove..." command.
[12:00] <rioghal> thank you crimsun
[12:00] <rioghal> philipsmith, thats good because aptitude wont do it because you installed it with apt-get
[12:01] <philipsmith> rioghal: What am I supposed to do? I don't seem to be able to do anything.
[12:01] <rioghal> philipsmith, aptitude only works that way with apps you installed with aptitude
[12:01] <thor> linuxmint rock
[12:02] <rioghal> philipsmith, i dont know, that setup and problem sounds like the result of a bigger problem
[12:02] <jago25_98> I'm getting a different page in Windows to the page in Ubuntu with firefox. No DNS cache to flush?
[12:03] <sky123> if you must remove configs after removal with apt-get remove then maybe the dpkg --purge packagename will help
[12:04] <rioghal> jago25_98, windows probably saw that you went to a linux site and gave you the page M$ wants you to see.. they used to do that a lot with the opera browser on windows
[12:07] <bunny> Hey does anyone have the evolution with tray and new mail pop ups modification??
[12:07] <bunny> does anyone here have it? i just want to know if i got installed right
[12:07] <bunny> it*
[12:07] <highneko> What's a good file manager for gnome other than nautilus?
[12:08] <rioghal> highneko, i use gnome-commander and i like it
[12:08] <rioghal> !gnome-commander
[12:08] <ubotu> gnome-commander: nice and fast file manager for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 860 kB, installed size 9064 kB
[12:08] <highneko> rioghal: Ok, I'll try it, thnx.
[12:08] <[Nige] > Hi all.
[12:09] <[Nige] > I am having problems getting the ATI driver to install with 3d Accerlation
[12:09] <[Nige] > I have tried the wiki but that didnt seem to work
[12:09] <[Nige] > any ideas?
[12:09] <[Nige] > on what to try next?
[12:09] <[Nige] > !ati
[12:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <all4n> hi all, anyone know how to copy cd to hd as iso image?  I've tried using dd but only get input/output error message
[12:09] <fnf> !emerald
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <rioghal> all4n, gnomebaker can do that easily.. do you have gnomebaker installed?
[12:10] <all4n> if I use windows w/Nero Burning Rom, the cd is nicely copied as nrg file which I can convert to ISO..  just wondering why dd is not working, it should work better than Nero, right?
[12:11] <rausb0> all4n: how did you use dd?
[12:12] <all4n> rasub0: yeah
[12:12] <rausb0> all4n: _how_ did you use dd?
[12:13] <all4n> rioghal: yes, I tried gnomebaker also
[12:13] <BlackHawk> moin
[12:13] <all4n> rausb0: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/allan/Desktop/myFile.iso
[12:13] <rausb0> all4n: is it a audio cd?
[12:13] <rioghal> all4n, well rauble might be able to help you with dd, if that fails i can walk you through it with gnomebaker
[12:13] <all4n> vcd
[12:14] <all4n> rioghal: sure, thanks
[12:14] <rioghal> all4n, oh, ok, disregard my last post
[12:14] <rausb0> all4n: vcd cannot be copied with dd
[12:14] <all4n> rausb0: oh..
[12:14] <darko3d> ok, so what should i use, Xgl, or AIGLX
[12:14] <rioghal> all4n, i dont think gnomebaker would do a vcd either
[12:14] <all4n> why is Nero able to but not those?
[12:15] <rausb0> all4n: i think vcds have more than one session
[12:15] <all4n> I thought dd would be block-level copying?
[12:15] <all4n> rausb0: oh
[12:16] <rausb0> all4n: and IIRC, vcd don't have the normal block size (2048 bytes)
[12:16] <rioghal> all4n, we can try it with gnomebaker but im not making any promises
[12:16] <all4n> rioghal: I have tried already  :)  thanks
[12:16] <rioghal> ok
[12:16] <rausb0> all4n: dd can only handle data cds, not vcds or audio cds.
[12:17] <all4n> rioghal and rausb0: I just read there is one called vcdimager..  I'll try that
[12:17] <rioghal> all4n, oh yeah, i saw that in the repos
[12:17] <all4n> rioghal: :)
[12:18] <all4n> rioghal & rausb0: thanks guys..   wife calling, I'll look into vcdimager when I get back later
[12:18] <rausb0> all4n: for copying of audio cds you need cdparanoia (and some gui frontend if you don't like the command line)
[12:18] <holden> hi, is there a package for recompile the kernel on Dapper?
[12:18] <all4n> rausb0: I like command line
[12:18] <rausb0> all4n: good :)
[12:18] <all4n> rausb0: :)
[12:19] <all4n> rausb0 & rioghal: all right, bye guys, thanks again
[12:19] <darko3d> ok, so what should i use, Xgl, or AIGLX
[12:21] <bimberi> ubotu: tell holden about kernel | via /msg
[12:22] <rafael> hallo
[12:22] <rafael> is daar iemand
[12:22] <rafael> ???
[12:22] <rafael> Hello Is ther Some body
[12:22] <rafael> ?
[12:22] <monokrome> !depends
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <monokrome> sup rafael?
[12:23] <holden> bimberi: thanks
[12:23] <rausb0> rafael: yes we can see you
[12:23] <bimberi> holden: yw :)
[12:23] <rafael> Do yo Sitting behinde the screen?
[12:23] <holden> bimberi: last question, is there a 686 kernel without SMP?
[12:24] <arsalanyo> hi i have made the cd from grub iso so should i just boot it and auto repair the MBR , will it automatically pick the windows installation and ubuntu installation, i dont have the password for both the installations :)
[12:24] <monokrome> rafael: Sorry, what do you mean?
[12:24] <darko3d> ! beryl
[12:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:24] <rafael> by
[12:24] <darko3d> !beryl
[12:24] <monokrome> !lmms
[12:24] <monokrome> ! lmms
[12:24] <ubotu> lmms: Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 1543 kB, installed size 3784 kB
[12:25] <bimberi> holden: in dapper?  good question.  give me a minute ...
[12:26] <holden> bimberi: yes, in Dapper
[12:27] <holden> bimberi: unfortunately Ralink rt61 GPL driver doesn't work well with SMP and PREEMPT
[12:27] <rafael> Hy I whant to connect a shared map how can I do that
[12:27] <rafael> ?
[12:27] <rafael> It is into UBUNTU
[12:27] <arsalanyo> hi i have made the cd from grub iso so should i just boot it and auto repair the MBR , will it automatically pick the windows installation and ubuntu installation, i dont have the password for both the installations :)
[12:28] <bimberi> holden: In dapper linux-686 and linux-686-smp both depend on linux-image-686 - so that is a No, there's just the one 686 kernel and it's SMP enabled
[12:28] <rafael> Yoiu can do multiboot
[12:29] <holden> bimberi: ok, now i'm sure, i'll install linux-386
[12:29] <rafael> fhlghdflgdf
[12:29] <rafael> Back
[12:29] <monokrome> rafael: What is wrong?
[12:29] <Wazm> ?
[12:29] <arsalanyo> what about me guys :)
[12:30] <rafael> Do jou know houw I can made a map shared for others
[12:30] <rafael> ?
[12:30] <monokrome> rafael: A map?
[12:30] <monokrome> Sorry, I am not familiar with the term.
[12:31] <darko3d> i updated lots of programs from the internet, is there anyway i can update these updates, so i don't have to do it again after every format
[12:31] <rafael> I have a shared map on my Desktop
[12:31] <monokrome> A shared directory?
[12:32] <rafael> mayby
[12:32] <monokrome> Are you in Ubuntu?
[12:32] <rafael> Yes
[12:32] <rausb0> rafael: map is the wrong term. i guess english is not your native language?
[12:32] <gotit> dont guess be sure lol
[12:32] <rausb0> gotit: heh
[12:32] <rafael> Shared Directory
[12:32] <rafael> ?
[12:33] <gotit> whats in this your very own map rafael
[12:33] <bienremi> iuiy
[12:33] <rafael> A simple test file
[12:33] <bienremi> hey
[12:33] <monokrome> I think he means a mapped directory with Samba
[12:34] <monokrome> rafael: Is that correct?
[12:34] <gotit> on to you guys :)
[12:34] <rafael> I read something about it, but dont now how
[12:34] <rioghal> darko3d, well, there is an app that will clone the partitions on your hd, but updates are a necessary part of any distro.. youll be updating again and again even if you clone the drive
[12:34] <rausb0> !samba
[12:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:35] <gotit> what about me guys i think i asked a question too :)
[12:35] <rausb0> rafael: do you want to share the directory over network or with other users on the same machine?
[12:35] <rioghal> gotit, what was your question?
[12:35] <gotit> hi i have made the cd from grub iso so should i just boot it and auto repair the MBR , will it automatically pick the windows installation and ubuntu installation, i dont have the password for both the installations :)
[12:35] <rafael> Thanks for the link
[12:35] <rafael> I go chec
[12:35] <rafael> it
[12:36] <rafael> Time for a Break
[12:36] <cong0_natty> hi can i get a large order of mc runs to go
[12:37] <gotit> haha
[12:37] <valehru_laptop> hey guys, I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 UART (rev 01) wifi card.....Im running dapper x32.....the wifi card is not being recognised through network-admin however it is within the lspci output...
[12:37] <cong0_natty> two can play that game
[12:37] <valehru_laptop> any hints would be nice
[12:37] <cong0_natty> valehru you need the bcxx drivers
[12:37] <soundray> valehru_laptop: is it a PCIe card?
[12:37] <cong0_natty> bcmxx *
[12:37] <valehru_laptop> soundray, its on a laptop
[12:38] <cong0_natty> i have them some where i can put them on my site if you want?
[12:38] <valehru_laptop> I tried a few drivers but nothing seemed to help
[12:38] <cong0_natty> you have to untar it to /lib/girmware
[12:38] <rioghal> !away > poulap
[12:38] <cong0_natty> firmware*
[12:38] <gotit> hey hey can any body just pay a little attention to me plz
[12:38] <soundray> !patience | gotit
[12:38] <ubotu> gotit: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:38] <cong0_natty> these ones garenteed work valehru_laptop
[12:38] <rioghal> gotit, if no one knows the answer to your question, what should all 892 of us say?
[12:38] <cong0_natty> as long as you put them in /lib/firmware
[12:39] <scheuri> hehe
[12:39] <gotit> aha ok lol
[12:39] <cong0_natty> ah shit my other box isnt on i cant get @ em @ the moment
[12:39] <rausb0> gotit: i missed your question
[12:39] <gotit> lol ok
[12:39] <valehru_laptop> cong0_natty, where are the drivers you mentioned?
[12:40] <valehru_laptop> cong0_natty, if they work I'll praise you from the high heavens.....the ones ive tried everywhere else don't seem to work.
[12:40] <cong0_natty> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462995
[12:40] <cong0_natty> that should help you
[12:40] <cong0_natty> they are native drivers the one specificaly designed for your card.
[12:41] <gotit> i have that super grub cd, bootable , i have to repair the ubuntu grub boot menu, but dont have the widows or ubuntu password, actually its my admins comp and i did some mess with it
[12:41] <cong0_natty> not ndiswrapper trying to wrap a win driver
[12:41] <valehru_laptop> cong0_natty, thanks...checking it out now..
[12:41] <cong0_natty> np
[12:41] <soundray> !grub | gotit
[12:41] <ubotu> gotit: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:41] <scheuri> gotit: my advice: run and hide...:)
[12:41] <soundray> gotit: use the "Recovering..." instructions
[12:41] <gotit> no no not lost it
[12:41] <Juftus> valehru_laptop, I guess you already saw this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[12:42] <gotit> will it need any password for that comps OS's
[12:42] <valehru_laptop> Juftus, yeah I saw that one....didnt help me at all.
[12:42] <soundray> gotit: you don't normally need a password to boot an OS, unless you have setup grub that way.
[12:42] <rausb0> gotit: no. if you can boot the cd, you can mount the filesystem and chroot into it (as long as it's not encrypted)
[12:42] <avenger__> yo
[12:43] <gotit> thats cool
[12:43] <Juftus> valehru_laptop: I have a 4318 myself, didn't quite work for me either... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and anyhow, it's an awful pain to get it going.
[12:43] <scheuri> Juftus: valehru_laptop: have you tried with ndiswrapper? or is this guide actually pointing to it?
[12:44] <valehru_laptop> yeah, i have a 4318 on a different machine....I can get it working perfectly in Dapper but not in edgy, I have since brought all my machines back to dapper...much more stable for my hardware it would seem
[12:44] <gotit> one thing more i installed another OS pluging another hard drive in the sys, windows has detected it and there are two windows xp options shown there, i have removed 1 from windows bootmanager how to remove it from grub
[12:44] <valehru_laptop> scheuri, what distro are you using?
[12:45] <valehru_laptop> and whats the card?
[12:45] <Juftus> scheuri: No, it isn't pointing to that. Didn't try Ndiswrapper. I quite rarely actually need wifi, and when I do, I just then boot into Windows.
[12:45] <wolf> gaim crashes a few seconds after i log in... anyone know why? Im on Dapper, fully updated. # gaim -d gives lots of output including:
[12:45] <wolf> g_log: gaim_base64_decode: assertion `text != NULL' failed
[12:45] <wolf> Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[12:46] <scheuri> valehru_laptop: I am using (k)ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) and I am NOT using wlan regularly...
[12:46] <rausb0> gotit: the windows sections in grub's menu.lst usually contain a line "chainloader +1"
[12:46] <scheuri> valehru_laptop: it was just a suggestions
[12:46] <scheuri> *suggestion
[12:46] <valehru_laptop> scheuri, whats your network card?
[12:46] <scheuri> valehru_laptop: uhmm...good question...PCMCIA 3Com...
[12:46] <Juftus> valehru_laptop, OK, thanks for the tip. I'm on Edgy now.
[12:46] <valehru_laptop> I used fwcutter on this machine before, was only 11mbps...not good.
[12:46] <gotit> scheuri: ok , now how to edit it
[12:46] <scheuri> gotit: do NOT ask me...:)
[12:47] <gotit> lol
[12:47] <scheuri> gotit: as I have no idea what you are speaking of...;)
[12:47] <gotit> heh
[12:48] <scheuri> wolf: did that happen after you added some accounts?
[12:48] <gotit> i have to remove 1 "windows xp professional" option from the boot menu of grub
[12:48] <scheuri> wolf: oh wait...you are on 64bit? sorry....can't help you then
[12:49] <rausb0> gotit: why did you insert the second harddisk anyway?
[12:49] <gotit> aha , you know.... to do some nasty work lol
[12:49] <valehru_laptop> brb, hopefully this works.
[12:49] <scheuri> here we go...some nice answer...:)
[12:50] <wolf> scheuri: I dont think so... though it may have happened only since upgrading to dapper (usually use gaim at work not here at home). No Im not on 64bit (not at home anyway :-) ) Why did u think that?
[12:50] <soundray> scheuri: it doesn't say that. Base64 is just an encoding scheme, like uuencode
[12:51] <scheuri> wolf: I thought so because I misread your error message...beg your pardon....(like soundray said)
[12:51] <wolf> ok
[12:51] <scheuri> wolf: have you tried to remove and install it again? maybe some troubles with dependencies?
[12:51] <gotit> rausb0?? where r you bro :)
[12:51] <scheuri> however, uuencode should be there anyway
[12:52] <sorush20> hi people..
[12:52] <rausb0> i will not support any windows related things
[12:52] <sorush20> I have a problem with kubuntu wpa
[12:52] <gotit> its not widows i have to remove it from grub menus
[12:52] <sorush20> is there a really good how to on it?
[12:52] <wolf> scheuri: havent tried that. will try now.
[12:52] <scheuri> !wpa
[12:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:52] <gotit> already removed it from window menu but its still in grub
[12:53] <scheuri> however, I can not really determine what "really good" means to you
[12:53] <soundray> gotit: you've been told before, you need to edit your menu.lst. If you don't know how, you've got some reading to do.
[12:53] <rausb0> gotit: so why don't you boot from cd and fix it?
[12:53] <gotit> i have the grub boot cd , should i just boot from it and auto repair it
[12:53] <gotit> ??
[12:54] <sorush20> this is not working for me  wpa_passphrase NetworkEssid, I have substituted the NetworkEssid with my Essid but still no use
[12:54] <rausb0> gotit: no, not auto repair it. boot it and edit the grub config file.
[12:54] <sorush20> it just hangs what can I do /
[12:54] <gotit> ok
[12:54] <scheuri> gotit: you may also just tell your admin the truth and let him help you fix it
[12:54] <gotit> but i need some more direction to manually repairing the grub config file
[12:54] <gotit> no no NA
[12:55] <scheuri> gotit: I was just saying
[12:55] <Hobbsee> sorush20: then type in your passphrase.
[12:55] <gotit> ok :)
[12:55] <keithhhhh> Can anyone tell me how to format a new disk to fat32??
[12:56] <Hobbsee> sorush20: which is why it says "# reading passphrase from stdin"
[12:56] <valehru> gah...didnt work.
[12:56] <scheuri> keithhhhh: is it mounted? does cfdisk see the disk?
[12:56] <lastnode__> keithhhhh, mkdosfs
[12:57] <rausb0> gotit: do you have any knowledge of the unix command line?
[12:57] <sorush20> Hobbsee: I have a BeBox from bethere.co.uk, they send the box with wpa psk encryption to me
[12:57] <keithhhhh> scheuri: I think it is
[12:57] <gotit> rausb0: how could i edit the grub config file
[12:57] <gotit> nopw
[12:57] <sorush20> its a key that is hex decimal
[12:57] <rausb0> gotit: then its gonna be hard...
[12:57] <scheuri> gotit: well, in this case....tell your admin the truth and let him help you fix it
[12:57] <gotit> i can do it :)
[12:57] <Hobbsee> sorush20: right, so why are you trying to generate the passphrase for it, if you've already got the key?
[12:57] <Hobbsee> !wpa > sorush20
[12:58] <sorush20> well that is what the documentation says so..
[12:58] <gotit> if someone give me the right direction i can do it i suppose
[12:59] <Hobbsee> sorush20: if you already have the key, you may as well take what it is, and keep following the instructions
[12:59] <Janchi> a BeBox? Wow, a cool piece of history
[01:00] <mnepton> Hobbit or PPC?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> sorush20: so you've got something like ae51d980bbd3827ac042dd02762a99aa154118c2112705f9a45689b595361e15, so put it in the file where it says psk=
[01:00] <valehru> hmm...now I have no eth1 at all...wtf?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> (as the documentation tells you)
[01:00] <rausb0> gotit: i don't know the grub boot cd, so i cannot tell which tools you have on it
[01:00] <dsb> hi
[01:00] <mchonis> anyone know how to convert .m4a files to .mp3?
[01:00] <gotit> thats super grub cd
[01:01] <rausb0> gotit: i don't know that either
[01:01] <wolf> scheuri: to uninstall requires removing ubuntu-desktop. That sound scary?!?!
[01:01] <gotit> .9508 ver
[01:01] <gotit> oh
[01:01] <mikl> mchonis: will that is possible, it is ruinous to your sound quality
[01:01] <mikl> s/will/while/
[01:01] <gotit> now thats a prob
[01:01] <scheuri> wolf: actually it is not that scary (however, it really scared me too the first time)...."ubuntu-desktop" is not a real package
[01:01] <rausb0> gotit: if i have to fix things, i boot my own live cd
[01:01] <scheuri> wolf: it is a virtual one which links several packages together
[01:02] <scheuri> wolf: easily spoken
[01:02] <bimberi> !ubuntu-desktop