[00:00] <Carla1989> I completed two passes for this test yesterday, no errors. Didn't complete it fully though.
[00:01] <Carla1989> After a long wait of over an hour, it was going to scan the third time ..
[00:02] <atomizer> has anyone had any success installing a Netgear WG111v3 wireless usb adapter?
[00:02] <wesley_> is there a way to start network-manger-gnome in kde ?
[00:03] <etfb> wesley_: Something about nm_applet, I think.  Google it.
[00:03] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: There should be some channel, providing specialized technical support. :)
[00:03] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: well then it's probably fine. If there's a problem it'll normally find it on the first pass.
[00:04] <wesley_> etfb the thing is it seems the gnome one does connect with wifi in 8.10 and the kde not
[00:05] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: So what's the next step for me. I have to send this laptop for servicing and it'll take about 2-3 weeks for it to come back. That is the only reason I had to find out my oldie laptop and get it fixed so that I can not be left in a desert.
[00:05] <etfb> wesley_: "the gnome one"?  What do you mean?
[00:05] <wesley_> the gnome fronted of network-manager
[00:06] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: I'm not at all convinced it's the hardware.
[00:06] <etfb> wesley_: Oh, OK.  So what's not working?  I can use wifi perfectly well with knetworkmanager, although getting VPN to work has been impossible so far.
[00:06] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: gimme a min, I'm booting the install CD in a virtual machine right now to see what options are available to see what's being done when it fails.
[00:06] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Oh, Is there a way to format my HD while I am on the usable desktop?
[00:07] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Nice.
[00:08] <wesley_> etfb you use kubuntu 8.10 alpha 5 ?
[00:08] <etfb> wesley_: Oh, sorry, misread.  No, I'm on Hardy.  So is it stuffing up on Intrepid, is it?  Bugger!
[00:10] <etfb> wesley_: The gnome network manage is apparently part of some set of Gnome applets, and I'm pretty sure the command to get it working is nmapplet or nm-applet or something like that.
[00:10] <etfb> Used to have to use it before they fixed the problem with configuring VPNs in KDE.
[00:10] <tim_> hello, I have 2 hdds, 1 for kubuntu and I mounted the other as kbackup.  After reinstalling kubuntu and remounting the 2nd hdd, there appears to be no files, eventhough I did not format that drive.  Any ideas?
[00:10] <etfb> (Except, of course, that it's not all that fixed, since kvpnc has never worked for me.  Maybe I should go back to the old way...)
[00:11] <atomizer> im off now, bye bye
[00:11] <etfb> tim_: Can you access the complete backup copies you made of the second drive?
[00:12] <tim_> yes, I have an extra backup on an external usb.
[00:12] <wesley_> etfb so its not a app that i can run freely in kde4
[00:13] <etfb> No, you can - you just have to trigger it via this appletty thing.  Hang on, I'll find the command...
[00:13] <ForgeAus> are they going to have a kde4 update on the main ubuntu servers?
[00:13] <ForgeAus> even if its proposed or backports or whatever..
[00:14] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: This time I am trying to install within the usable desktop only. And the other change this time is, I am going with the Guided partitioning of 2 partitions each for Ubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04
[00:14] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Let's see if it can partition the drive
[00:15] <ForgeAus> Carla, kubuntu-desktop is the only metapackage you need... it will install all you need of kde
[00:16] <Carla1989> ForgeAus, that was too techy for me
[00:16] <LeeJunFan> ForgeAus: Carla1989 is having a problem even completing installation.
[00:16] <LeeJunFan> he was on a different train of thought.
[00:16] <etfb> wesley_: install network-manager-gnome and nm-applet, then run nm-applet to open the manager.  Dunno why it works, but it does.
[00:16] <ForgeAus> ohhh kay...
[00:17] <ForgeAus> liveCD's are easier
[00:17] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: The status bar hasn't moved from 0% for the last few minutes.
[00:17] <etfb> wesley_: But this is old news - Edgy or before.  May not still work with the bleeding-edge betas.  Good luck!
[00:17] <ForgeAus> hehe probably best if you install 2x kubuntu liveCD's then pure gnome/ubuntu-desktop-ize the other :)
[00:18] <Carla1989> Oh! Another error! "Resize operation failure. An error occured while writing the changes to the storage devices. The resize operation has been aborted."
[00:19] <ForgeAus> Carla is there any data on the partitions you need/want to keep?
[00:19] <Carla1989> No doubt, this is the same error failing installation
[00:19] <Carla1989> No
[00:19] <ForgeAus> I don't recommend resizing if you can avoid it
[00:19] <ForgeAus> better to create whole new partitions
[00:20] <Carla1989> I thought I was trying to do the same
[00:20] <ForgeAus> (2x ext3 and 1x small swap)
[00:20] <Carla1989> by resizing one larger partition into two smaller partitions
[00:21] <LeeJunFan> brb
[00:23] <sevenseeke1> hello, I am trying to set my fqdn but can't figure out how.  I first tried with the network settings gui, then with an alias in /etc/hosts and finally with /etc/hostname but nothing seems to work when I type 'hostname -f'
[00:23] <sevenseeke1> do I have to restart network services?
[00:24] <sevenseeke1> oh, btw this is kubuntu hardy 8.04
[00:24] <ForgeAus> no Carla
[00:25] <ForgeAus> you don't resize you remove them all and create them to the size you want
[00:25] <ForgeAus> no need to resize that way
[00:26] <ForgeAus> so in your head round down how large your hard drive is (say its 160 gig, round it down to say 150, then make 1 75gig partition, and another 75gig partition and whatevers left over goes into a swap partition
[00:27] <Carla1989> Okay, this time I went with the second option of Guided Partitioning for one entire partition. It's has scanned the filesystems, created EXT3.. and now Copying the files over
[00:27] <Carla1989> 27% done.. abd waiting
[00:27] <ForgeAus> ohh kay
[00:27] <ForgeAus> this means you only have one whole disk
[00:28] <LeeJunFan> not going with swap?
[00:28] <ForgeAus> no space for the second partition to put the other ubuntu (or kubuntu) on
[00:28] <Carla1989> I hardly care.. I just need this laptop to work.
[00:28] <ForgeAus> ok Carla your the user... you seem to know what you want
[00:29] <ForgeAus> but I must say I do recommend having a swap partition
[00:29] <Carla1989> Oh Yes, I forgot to mention it. It did create swap automatically this time.. and yes the other point, It formatted the entire HD before doing anything.
[00:29] <Carla1989> 42% done. :)
[00:29] <ForgeAus> Carla its meant to format that installer does that
[00:29] <ForgeAus> so that you have a brand clan spankin new Kubuntu install each time
[00:30] <Carla1989> Yes, I am happy. When I was trying manual install, it could not even pass formatting stage.
[00:30] <ForgeAus> Carla, I think you could, you just needed to understand it a little more...
[00:30] <ForgeAus> but when these things are new I can understand how easy it is to get overwhelmed by them I remember my first foray into linux :)
[00:31] <ForgeAus> I lost my windows partition to it...
[00:31] <DarkriftX> thats not a bad thing though, thats linux AI trying to save you
[00:31] <ForgeAus> of course this was windows95 or 98 at the time...
[00:31] <ForgeAus> something like that
[00:32] <DarkriftX> windows detected!! must save user!! format windows partition and remove all traces of the Microsoft Virus!!
[00:32] <LeeJunFan> yeah, doing manual can be tough for newcomers, who forget to do such things as setting a mountpoint for partitions correctly.
[00:32] <ForgeAus> lol Darkrift... no it was bad it was a crappy cli partition program that you needed an expert with a law degree in order to tackle understanding how to use it..
[00:33] <goldmetal> can someone help me with vpn? i am using kvpn, i got connected. but soon after 5 seconds i am disconnected. 'route -v' did not show my new route, but ifconfig showed a new ppp0 interface.
[00:33] <ForgeAus> hehe Lee I've used linux for a while now and even I don't remember to set a root mount point... so I let it complain and tell me :)
[00:33] <Carla1989> Under sda, there were two partitions as it showed me first, I edited sda1 (the entire HD) to be root and EXT3 filesystem and the other partition as swap. That's all I did, and I hope I did it right.
[00:33] <Carla1989> 61% done now.
[00:33] <ForgeAus> goldmetal interesting question, I don't know enough about vpn to help you I've never actually used it this way
[00:34] <Carla1989> *and I hope I was doing it right.*
[00:34] <ForgeAus> Carla you pretty much had to have done it right the installer doesn't let you continue unless you have a valid root partition...
[00:35] <ForgeAus> thats all that is defined as "right" in this case...
[00:35] <ForgeAus> (it may or may not be what you wanted but thats a whole other question)
[00:35] <Carla1989> I agree
[00:35] <LeeJunFan> nvm that the swap is probably 1/2 of the hd, but that's okay for now. hehe
[00:36] <Carla1989> It's a small thingy, some 5 digit size if I remember it right
[00:36] <LeeJunFan> ugh, my shift/capslock keeps getting lost by switching vt's in vmware.
[00:36] <Carla1989> :)
[00:36] <ForgeAus> Lee if it is thats a good thing :)
[00:36] <ForgeAus> removing a swap drive is no problem...
[00:36] <ForgeAus> removing remaking you can pretty much do what you want with swapspace, I just recommend that you keep at least SOME
[00:36] <ForgeAus> lol Lee :)
[00:37] <ForgeAus> I know the feeling
[00:37] <LeeJunFan> ForgeAus: that happens to you too/
[00:37] <LeeJunFan> i thought it was just me.
[00:37] <Carla1989> 74% bravo
[00:37] <ForgeAus> well I aren't one to switch VT's often but yes
[00:38] <ForgeAus> it has happened to me keyboard concurrency issues with a key being assigned to an unexpected function by a "wrapper" program
[00:38] <ForgeAus> but then I'm an emulation freak from way back
[00:38] <LeeJunFan> all my modifier keys seem to not work now, no shift,ctrl,alt. so no way to shift to another vt and back to f7 to see if it cures it.
[00:38]  * ForgeAus remembers discovering RiscOS fondly...
[00:38] <alx54> hmm hi there... I am a bit sad... I really love kubuntu but it's so slow! when I move around windows they drag behind, sometimes even the curser drags although I dont do anything on my machine, just listening music....  has anybody good advice on how to accelerate graphics? I use 8.04/3.5.9 default settings and the proprietary driver that was recommended during installing, my hardinfo report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47027/
[00:39] <Carla1989> Copying files, Creating Locales stage is done! Creating Users is done!
[00:39] <Carla1989> Scanning the Mirror now. :)
[00:39] <Carla1989> 82%
[00:40] <ForgeAus> Lee because they're used for other function in the VM
[00:40] <ForgeAus> I mean for the VM itself not inside it
[00:40] <ForgeAus> ie alt probably opens the menu bar
[00:40] <ForgeAus> note this means the virtual machine program your using hasn't been designed very well lol
[00:42] <LeeJunFan> ForgeAus: it's vmware, running kubuntu installer, i ctrl-alt-shift f1 within vmware to switch vt's. it could be any number of things i suppose. i should check for updates with vmware, as well i'm using kde4 and compiz so who know's what the real culprit is. i haven't use vt's within vmware in a long time - so i can't point to any 1 thing as being the one change.
[00:42] <DreadKnight> any way to share files between my kubuntu kde4 boxes? both using the same router...
[00:43] <DreadKnight> lan basicaly
[00:43] <LeeJunFan> 1samba
[00:43] <LeeJunFan> lol - i can't use exclamaiton. brb
[00:43] <DreadKnight> screw samba, don't wanna configure files and such T_T
[00:44] <ForgeAus> uh thats because control + shift means something to vmware
[00:44] <ForgeAus> you can set that behaviour I'm sure
[00:44] <ForgeAus> (also vt's don't need shift afaik
[00:44] <ForgeAus> just alt+control last I remembered...
[00:44] <etfb> Anyone know how to get VPN working in Kubuntu 8.04?  I'm trying to connect to a Windows box at work and it seems to be deeply b0rked.
[00:44] <DreadKnight> that guy left a while ago
[00:45] <ForgeAus> wb Lee
[00:45] <LeeJunFan> yay, I've got all my keys again. lol. That's annoying.
[00:46] <ForgeAus> samba isn't the only way I'm not sure what kpf  (kde public fileserver) uses but theres also nfs
[00:46] <ForgeAus> or P2P via websites/ftp/whatever
[00:47] <DreadKnight> nfs also hard to configure
[00:47] <ForgeAus> hehe then samba sounds like a great idea :)
[00:47] <ForgeAus> of course theres also physical media, like memory sticks (ie usb keys) and CD's and stuff
[00:47] <DreadKnight> samba also hard to configure :P
[00:48] <DreadKnight> want to share a thing on my home lan
[00:48] <ForgeAus> if you have kde3 you can rightclick your kicker (ie taskbar) and add kde public fileserver easy enough
[00:49] <ForgeAus> that probably does lots of the config for you as long as you have whatever protocol it uses installed
[00:49] <DreadKnight> never used that; but i have kde4 on both boxes near me
[00:49] <ForgeAus> gmm not sure that kde4 has that available
[00:49] <ForgeAus> ok...
[00:50] <ForgeAus> I may just shut up now...
[00:50] <DreadKnight> :D thanks for trying
[00:50] <ForgeAus> it comes under the heading of... I guess: ... misdirected efforts to assist...
[00:50] <ForgeAus> samba is harder when you have to manually edit the samba.conf file
[00:50] <ForgeAus> KDE has at least dialogs to set it all up
[00:51] <DreadKnight> well in kde4 there is "share" tab under properties of a folder; but when i activate the button under it it gives me a "kdesudo error"
[00:51] <ForgeAus> (I don't know if gnome has the same...)
[00:51]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[00:52] <ForgeAus> KDE4 isn't ready yet really... for some of these kinds of things
[00:52] <ForgeAus> don't get me wrong KDE4 is good its just... not KDE3
[00:52] <DreadKnight> i know
[00:52] <DreadKnight> well as i recall that doesn't works as well in kde3..
[00:56] <Carla1989> YAY! KUBUNTU IS THE BEST!! I AM WORKING ON THE BRAND NEW N SHINING HARDY DESKTOP. THANKS LEEJUNFAN, ESPECIALLY [ Sorry for the caps, couldn't help. :) ]
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: glad to hear. Thanks to ForgeAus too for helping out while my KB was ticking me off.
[01:04]  * Carla feels refreshed on the new kubuntu!
[01:05]  * Carla1989 asks seriously?
[01:05] <ForgeAus> Hardy Ha Ha Ha :)
[01:05]  * ForgeAus thinks he's seeing double double
[01:05]  * Carla is no double
[01:05]  * Carla1989 i think i agree with you
[01:06] <mn> how can I make a .iso of / ?
[01:06] <Carla1989> Thanks to ForgeAus too . :)
[01:06] <ForgeAus> thats why I think I'm seeing double double
[01:07] <ForgeAus> hey mn, um you just start a program to design a .iso (like k3b) and add / to it!
[01:07] <ForgeAus> that simple
[01:07] <Carla> oh really? I guess its about time to leave you guys at it. There are other needy people to eat you up. :)
[01:07] <ForgeAus> only I 'm not sure why you'd want to
[01:07] <Carla1989> Yea Carla, you're right. Let's go and have a chilled beer!
[01:07] <ForgeAus> backing up and restoring is a much better idea usually
[01:07] <ForgeAus> (otherwise symlinks can be a pain among other things)
[01:08] <szakulec> hi, fish doesn't seem to be working properly- it rejects a valid username (which I confirmed by ssh'ing to the box)- any ideas?
[01:08] <ForgeAus> wb mn
[01:08] <ForgeAus> rofl
[01:09] <Carla> bye byez
[01:09] <ForgeAus> bye
[01:09] <ForgeAus> hav fun
[01:09] <ForgeAus> uh szakulec, I have no eye deer
[01:09] <mn> ForeAus: wb?
[01:09] <ForgeAus> and without legs its still no eye deer!
[01:09] <ForgeAus> short for welcome back
[01:10] <mn> o thnx
[01:10] <ForgeAus> its the yw's after a thanx that still sometimes get me! I keep forgetting it :)
[01:10] <ForgeAus> (stands for Your Welcome)
[01:10] <mn> yeah
[01:11] <mn> im just not used 2 seein chat speek on irc
[01:11] <mn> ;)
[01:11] <ForgeAus> may I ask why exactly you wish to copy / to a CD?
[01:11] <mn> so do you how I can make a .iso of / ?
[01:11] <ForgeAus> I already answered taht
[01:12] <ForgeAus> but I'm thinking what your asking for is likely not to suit your needs depending on what exactly your trying to do that for
[01:12] <mn> Well, I want my custom linux on a cd
[01:12] <ForgeAus> copying / to other media is a hazard mostly for symlinks among other things...
[01:13] <mn> symlinks?
[01:13] <ForgeAus> ok to create a custom LiveCD theres tutorials on the net (mostly they take ubuntu-minimal and add packages to it I think)... check them out they're more likely to bring about the results your looking for
[01:13] <DreadKnight> !nfs
[01:13] <ForgeAus> its not just as simple as copying / to an .iso
[01:14] <mn> oh
[01:14] <ForgeAus> symlinks = symbolic links they're files (analogous kinda to shortcuts in windows) that link to another file or directory somewhere else
[01:14] <ForgeAus> when you copy them they may break depending on the path...
[01:14] <ForgeAus> or worse they may remain dynamic and refer to things that aren't there anymore if the other media is removed!
[01:14] <mn> well, i just wanted to use this if I could because ive already customized it with 3rd party and proprietary software
[01:15] <mn> linux uses alot of symlinks doesnt it
[01:15] <ForgeAus> MN perhaps your better to say um... back it up and restore it to the CD? would that help?
[01:15] <ForgeAus> ie back up ur HDD somewhere into a file, then restore that file to the .iso media?
[01:15] <ForgeAus> yeah LInux tends to use them, they're handy
[01:15] <dr_willis> mn symlinks can be very handy. :)
[01:16] <dr_willis> expecially compared to the 'windows shortscuts' :)
[01:16] <ForgeAus> I don't know if that .iso will be bootable however...
[01:16] <ForgeAus> lol dr_willis ok go dump on windows... I'll just sulk ok?
[01:17] <mn> how does one make symlinks?
[01:17] <ForgeAus> theres a program ln
[01:17] <ForgeAus> that you can use to create them
[01:17] <dr_willis> ForgeAus,  had to explain to a guy the other day why under windows - the program he was using was trying ot load his Document.lnk    - instead of the file it was pointng to. :)
[01:17] <ForgeAus> (kinda like creating a directory except your creating a link instead..
[01:17] <mn> ah
[01:18] <dr_willis> just rember kids.. a hard link. is identcal to the original file. :)
[01:18] <ForgeAus> lol dr_willis :)
[01:18] <Carla> Hey Guys, I am back with a beer. :)
[01:18] <Carla> How do I get streaming movies on kubuntu?
[01:18] <Carla> Flash/DivX format
[01:18] <fero> hi
[01:18] <dr_willis> Carla,  clarify a bit.. You mean Watch some streams? or stream your own?
[01:19] <ForgeAus> you need a plugin
[01:19] <ForgeAus> and probably a web browser and/or vlc
[01:19] <ForgeAus> note both of those formats are non-free
[01:19] <Carla> So which plugin is this exactly.
[01:19] <ForgeAus> flash-plugin-nonfree I think does flash video
[01:19] <ForgeAus> (say youtube website)
[01:20] <ForgeAus> and DivX well I dunno I guess its handled in DVD, etc packages ???
[01:20] <dr_willis> I normally install the w32codecs pack, and the kubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[01:20] <Carla> So I'll just search for it on konquerer.. and install it from there
[01:20] <fero> hello, do you read me?
[01:20] <ForgeAus> not konqueror Adept
[01:20] <dr_willis> I was thinking divx was handled by the mpeg stuff.. but i forget.. Ive never had issues playing divx.
[01:20] <ForgeAus> (adept is the package manager for Kubuntu its where you install/remove program parts (called packages from)
[01:20] <ForgeAus> !adept
[01:20] <Carla> dr_willis, can you elaborate on the process
[01:21] <Carla> w32codecs, and kubuntu-restricted
[01:21] <dr_willis> Carla,  install those 2 packages
[01:21] <dr_willis> that will grab 80% of the stuff you would ever need. :)
[01:21] <dr_willis> and i cant imagine what the other 20% would be
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> !medibuntu
[01:21] <ForgeAus> (from the commandline (ie open a terminal window (if you like use the program konsole, same thing) and type sudo apt-get install w32codecs kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:22] <dr_willis> Yep. w32codecs come from Medibuntu repos.
[01:22] <ForgeAus> it will ask you your password
[01:24] <Carla> package w32codecs is not available
[01:24] <ForgeAus> thats because you don't have the repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <dr_willis> Carla,  its IN the MEDIBUNTU repositories :)
[01:24] <EagleSn> you need to install it from medibuntu packages
[01:24] <ForgeAus> but don't worry using Adept is an easy GUI way to edit that...
[01:24] <Carla> Oh, so how do I add it into the other repo. list
[01:24] <ForgeAus> if you read above theres a link to read
[01:24] <dr_willis> medibuntu homepage has a command you cut/paste also..  is another way
[01:25] <Carla> Okay, I have Adept opened up
[01:25] <ForgeAus> oh ok dr_willis
[01:25] <ForgeAus> hehe Im all backwards today
[01:25] <Carla> I need the address of APT Repo.
[01:25] <ForgeAus> helping people out from the wrong end of the stick!
[01:25] <EagleSn> Adept -> Manage repositories
[01:25] <Carla> so that I can add the complete command
[01:25] <dr_willis> See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:26] <ForgeAus> Carla yes you need the address of the repository to add it
[01:26] <ForgeAus> dr willis is trying to tell you how (of course that webpage may give you commands that don't require adding the address personally)
[01:26] <dr_willis> See http://www.medibuntu.org -----------> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:27] <dr_willis> and it adds them in a nicer way
[01:27] <EagleSn> yes
[01:27] <ForgeAus> whast the -O ?
[01:27] <Carla> The page does not have the Adept manager command for hardy
[01:27] <Carla> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:28] <ForgeAus>  sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:28] <ForgeAus> oops
[01:28] <Carla> this is for konsole, right
[01:28] <ForgeAus> yes
[01:28] <EagleSn> yes, copy and paste that command in konsole
[01:28] <Carla> I need one for adept
[01:28] <EagleSn> forget Adept for now
[01:28] <EagleSn> close Adept
[01:28] <Carla> oh, okay. :)
[01:28] <dr_willis> You could of allready had the stuff done from the command line interface in the time it took me to write this statement..
[01:28] <dr_willis> :)
[01:28] <EagleSn> run that command
[01:29] <EagleSn> after that, run this one: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[01:29] <ForgeAus> ouch I have too many non-standard repos!
[01:30] <Carla> dilipgarg@CrashingVictory:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[01:30] <Carla> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <EagleSn> oh oh, problems
[01:30] <dr_willis> Hmmm. sounds like som sort of typo happened somewhere
[01:31] <DarkriftX> anyone know how to add trackers to a downloading torrent in ktorrent?
[01:31] <Carla> Oh, looks like kubuntu isnt that easy to chew
[01:31] <cilkay> Carla: sudo -i then enter your password. Copy/paste all that stuff above again this time without the sudo.
[01:31] <ForgeAus> sure it is
[01:31] <cilkay> Carla: Nah... you're just making it harder than it needs to be :)
[01:31] <EagleSn> Carla its like you typed bad the command to add repositiry
[01:32] <dr_willis> Copy/paste is so handy. :)
[01:32] <EagleSn> it seems there is a word "sudo" inside source.list
[01:32] <Carla> Oh, whole of the command is in the sources file
[01:32] <ForgeAus> sometimes a little too handy in this case it seems
[01:32] <Carla> that wget command
[01:32] <ForgeAus> no you don't put the command in the sources.list file
[01:32] <ForgeAus> you type it on the command line of konsole
[01:32] <Carla> I didn;t do it.. seriously.
[01:33] <ForgeAus> rofl :)
[01:33] <ForgeAus> I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything :)
[01:33] <ForgeAus> (of course that means I'm likely guilty as sin)
[01:33] <morghanphoenix> question, why would kubuntu have weird stats for my battery charge when fedora on the same system has the right stats. Things like saying my battery is overcharged, and that I have 15 minutes of battery right when I unplug despite the fact that I have a two hour battery life.
[01:34] <Carla> Now how do I get that removed
[01:34] <ForgeAus> same way you added it I think
[01:34] <dr_willis> im not sure what typo he did to add it..
[01:34] <dr_willis> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:35] <dr_willis> dosent even touch the sources.list file
[01:35] <ForgeAus> Carla is a he?
[01:35] <Carla> omg! did someone just change my gender??
[01:35] <dr_willis> ForgeAus,  could be an ALien from alpha-centri also. :)
[01:35] <ForgeAus> I think they probably typed it in in adept's manage packages ?
[01:35] <ForgeAus> rofl dr_willis :)
[01:35] <dr_willis> could be an FBI agent, or a 300lb Garbage collector also...
[01:35] <dr_willis> :P
[01:35] <ForgeAus> or Tau_Ceti, even Rigel! :)
[01:36] <Carla> How do I get that line removed from that sources file
[01:36] <ForgeAus> more likely a Vampire trying to gain our confidence :)
[01:36] <morghanphoenix> Space vampires, eh?
[01:37] <dr_willis> Carla,  if its in /etc/apt/sources.lst you edit that file as root.
[01:37] <dr_willis> and correct the mistake.
[01:37] <dr_willis> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <dr_willis> I would bet theres a 'sudo' at the front of line 56 for some reason
[01:37] <ForgeAus> are there any other kind?
[01:38] <morghanphoenix> probably dropped the command into the gui where you only need to add the address.
[01:39] <ForgeAus> to edit the file as root you might wish to type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in either konsole (a terminal or command prompt)... or by rightclicking the desktop and selecting run command
[01:39] <Carla> morghan, yes - I remember doing that
[01:40] <ForgeAus> of course theres always xterm if you'd prefer :)
[01:40] <DarkriftX> erm... my ktorrent screen is like 4k pixels high and wont let me resize it. what can i do to fix that
[01:40] <ForgeAus> ktorrent now theres a great application :)
[01:40] <Carla> Updating medibuntu packages right now
[01:40] <ForgeAus> I've never had it do that
[01:41] <morghanphoenix> Nothing wrong with xterm, but if you're using kubuntu why not spring for yakuake.
[01:41] <morghanphoenix> Not like you're doing much for running light with KDE going anyways,
[01:42] <ForgeAus> morghan first you need to install yakuake
[01:42] <ForgeAus> besides I prefer konsole
[01:42] <morghanphoenix> Trying to kill my battery totally, see if that helps anything with this weird battery monitor thing.
[01:42] <Carla> w32codecs and restricted extras are installed.
[01:42] <morghanphoenix> Maybe if it dies on it's own once it'll work right again
[01:42] <ForgeAus> awesome Carla :) great!
[01:43] <ForgeAus> see you can do it, and its not that hard!
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> Had to turn the power management off though, kept hibernating me despite the fact my battery was working fine.
[01:43] <ForgeAus> just takes a while to adjust to really
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> I like yakuake, just hit F12 and get a whoe bank of konsoles pop up out of nowhere
[01:43] <Carla> ForgeAus, yes. What's the next step
[01:44] <ForgeAus> next step?
[01:44] <Carla> Can I just start watching DivX movies now
[01:44] <ForgeAus> you should be able to
[01:44] <morghanphoenix> Well, at least it's a whole bank on mine.
[01:44] <Carla> Hmm, let me try
[01:44] <wesley_> sites say i dont have java but i have installed
[01:44] <wesley_> it
[01:44] <ForgeAus> you do of course have to have a source of DivX movies to try it with
[01:44] <wesley_> i use amd64 8.10
[01:44] <ForgeAus> wesley no plugin?
[01:45] <morghanphoenix> Hmm, -10 min power
[01:45] <ForgeAus> first of all which java do you have? ecj, sun or what?
[01:45] <morghanphoenix> Funny it's still working fine.
[01:45] <alexander_> hello
[01:45] <morghanphoenix> But the actually power light is blinking
[01:46] <morghanphoenix> Does the OS send a signal to that?
[01:46] <wesley_> ForgeAus that what the sites says no plugin ( uh java ? sun ?
[01:46] <ForgeAus> oops gcj if I can type it right
[01:46] <ForgeAus> dunno morghan
[01:46] <alexander_> whats up guys?
[01:46] <morghanphoenix> kubuntu-restricted-extras package installed?
[01:46] <morghanphoenix> easiest way I knwo to get most everything
[01:46] <alexander_> guys?
[01:47] <ForgeAus> which site wes?
[01:47] <ForgeAus> hey alexander
[01:47] <alexander_> how do you guys like ubuntu?
[01:47] <wesley_> morghanphoenix yes i installed that package
[01:47] <ForgeAus> I don't I love Kubuntu instead :)
[01:47] <morghanphoenix> I dodn't care for gnome
[01:47] <wesley_> but it still sayes i dont have java
[01:48] <morghanphoenix> Don't really like kubuntu that much either, but the premade packages make it worth while.
[01:48] <alexander_> i love ubuntu
[01:48] <morghanphoenix> I swear it's becoming the third OS
[01:48] <alexander_> it is basic but still has a little touchness to it
[01:48] <Carla> Nopes, the flash player is "greyed out" and divx player doesn't even show up.
[01:48] <morghanphoenix> Windows, MAc or Ubuntu
[01:48] <morghanphoenix> If you use linux you'll have to take apart the deb and figure out why it won't run on debian.
[01:48] <alexander_> Windows if for gaming
[01:48] <alexander_> thats it
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> Windows isn't even for that
[01:49] <alexander_> then what is it for lol
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> I run games better with wine than with xp
[01:49] <alexander_> haha same
[01:49] <alexander_> WoW FTW
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> Heh, more warnings, wonder if my battery really is about to die
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> THat'd suck
[01:49] <morghanphoenix> a few months old and allready down to a 20 min battery time
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> I hope it's just some kind of bug
[01:50] <EagleSn> i love vista
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> Batteries aren't covered in my warranty
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> heh, my battery time has gone up though
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> It was negative and now it says 3 minuted remain
[01:51] <morghanphoenix> How do you get a negative time on battery life if it dies at zero?
[01:52] <morghanphoenix> q minute
[01:52] <morghanphoenix> make that 1
[01:53] <Carla> ForgeAus, Do I have to install some linux compatible DivX plugin?
[01:54] <Carla> neither flash, nor DivX videos are working
[01:55] <Fading> Anyone here able to run the game "The Witcher" in kubuntu?
[01:56] <nitebird> Hey, can anyone help me with a Wireless USB issues in Hardy?
[01:57] <nitebird> I've plugged-in the Linksys WUSB54GC which should work out-of-the-box with Hardy
[01:57] <nitebird> I've even tried ndiswrapper
[01:57] <nitebird> But although I can see the interface in the Network Manager
[01:57] <nitebird> Everytime I enable it, it immediately becomes unenabled
[01:58] <nitebird> There's an onboard wireless card that isn't agreeing well with Linux
[01:58] <nitebird> So I thought that there might be an IRQ conflict
[01:58] <nitebird> So I threw irqpoll as an boot argument for the kernel
[01:58] <nitebird> But that in no way solved the problem
[01:58] <nitebird> Any ideas?
[02:00] <waldschatten> well, that's a piss off, really did die on me, this is too new to die in less than a half hour.
[02:01] <waldschatten> heh, alt name
[02:02] <morghanphoenix> guess I was still logged in
[02:10] <Fading> !wine
[02:12] <EagleSn> !apt
[02:14] <Guest62123> hello
[02:15] <Guest62123> are you here ?
[02:16] <rkroetch> I am trying to run some servers on a machine that is heavily firewalled by IT. Right now I can access port 22 from the internet, but no other ports I've tried. Anyone know an easy way to find what ports can be accessed from the internet?
[02:16] <rkroetch> If the ports don't have a server running on them, they won't show up as open in port scanners, so it seems rather difficult to figure out which ones are open
[02:21] <nitebird> rkroetch, I know that some programs, like utorrent, check to see if your torrent software can use the port you specified or if it might be slower because it's behind a firewall
[02:21] <nitebird> You might want to try that
[02:24] <sooki> i'm trying to add windows to my grub list, but it's located on its own second drive, and i'm not sure which hdwhatever,whatever it is, is there a way to find out?
[02:24] <h2i> hmm... so i created a user by going into sys settings and users and groups... the user was supposed to have sudo privileges, but i couldn't use sudo... so i restarted X and the problem persists still....
[02:24] <h2i> heelp :)
[02:25] <EagleSn> h2i a new user different than user who installed the system does not sudo privileges by default
[02:26] <h2i> how do you get sudo privileges?
[02:26] <EagleSn> i am not sure
[02:26] <h2i> oh
[02:26] <h2i> hmm
[02:27] <h2i> i will work around it i suppose
[02:27] <EagleSn> i know that is editing some in /etc/sudoers
[02:27] <maduser> kdesudo $
[02:27] <maduser> or in the ternimal sudo
[02:28] <EagleSn> until you do it, you can use su command to become root in a terminal if you put a root password
[02:29] <maduser> su doesn't seem to work
[02:29] <maduser> It only works wehn i do sudo su
[02:29] <EagleSn> to use su you need first stablish a root password
[02:30] <EagleSn> you can do it with sudo passwd
[02:30] <maduser>  in kubuntu there is not root by defult
[02:30] <maduser> yeah
[02:30] <EagleSn> then Enter the new Unix password (root password)
[02:30] <EagleSn> after that yo ucan use su and also start session as root in a tty terminal
[02:35] <htgf> Hello. How do I setup wireless access on Kubuntu.
[02:36] <htgf> Using lspci, I got the wireless card name
[02:36] <htgf> 01:0a.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[02:39] <BluesKaj> !Wireless | htgf
[02:40] <htgf> BluesKaj, I don't need to setup a wireless network, Just need to acces it. Does this page describe the process?
[02:44] <mn> htgf: will you give us some more details
[02:44] <mn> i just recently had to connect my linux system to wireless
[02:47] <mn> htgf:  if you cannot connect, get ndiswrapper and install this driver:  w70n501.inf from intel.com
[02:48] <mn> and make sure you don't need a firmware upgrade as well
[03:04] <frdt> Hello. Can people play these DivX videos here ninjavideo.net?
[03:05] <frdt> I remember following some instructions last time and able to watch these videos.. but after my new hardy installation, I can not watch these. :(
[03:06] <frdt> mn, anyone?
[03:08] <mn> let me see
[03:09] <frdt> There's a video helper you have to click, which somehow lets you watch divx videos
[03:10] <mn> do you have a DivX player?
[03:10] <frdt> I am using mplayer
[03:10] <Guest62123> i want know new kernel ?
[03:10] <frdt> I can watch videos at, for e.g. stagehd.com
[03:10] <frdt> www.stagehd.com they also host divx videos
[03:11] <frdt> but ninjavideo requires this video helper thingy.. a bit different than a usual divx video
[03:12] <mn> frdt: hmm, I don't know.  I wish I could help, but I'm not into media and stuff.  Mostly dev and apps
[03:13] <mn> Guest62123:  what?  you want to know the newest linux kernel?
[03:13] <Guest62123> oh
[03:13] <Guest62123> yes
[03:13] <frdt> Oh, then perhaps you can advice me on suitable GUI based developing environments for C++, Java, and lisp on Kubuntu.
[03:13] <frdt> Do we have eclipse on kubuntu?
[03:14] <Guest62123> i want update
[03:14] <mn> frdt:  I use kdevelop
[03:14] <mn> you want to update your kernel?
[03:14] <frdt> mn: let me check out
[03:14] <mn> mk
[03:15] <mn> Guest62123:  What kernel are you using?
[03:15] <Guest62123> 2.6.27
[03:15] <Guest62123> i think so!
[03:16] <mn> that's the lasted preview release
[03:17] <mn> the latest stable release is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:18] <frdt> mn: what? :O Does one kDevelop work for all languages? :O
[03:18] <Guest62123> how do check version kernel?
[03:18] <frdt> mn: I have just finished downloading latest kdevelop and it looks awesome!
[03:18] <snyh> uname -a
[03:19] <mn> frdt: good!
[03:19] <Guest62123> oh
[03:20] <Guest62123> i using 2.6.24
[03:20] <mn> guest:  well the latest stable is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:21] <snyh> why you want to update kernel ?
[03:22] <Guest62123> oh i want studing
[03:22] <Guest62123> :d
[03:22] <snyh> >_<
[03:22] <Guest62123> i'm a student
[03:22] <snyh> me too.
[03:22] <Guest62123> oh
[03:23] <Guest62123> that right
[03:23] <snyh> a Chinese?
[03:23] <Guest62123> where are you here
[03:23] <Guest62123> oh no
[03:24] <snyh> I'm from china.
[03:24] <Guest62123> i'm vietnamese
[03:24] <Guest62123> we are nextdoor
[03:25] <snyh> yes
[03:26] <snyh> bye
[03:26] <Guest62123> bye
[03:29] <DarkShinigami> With kopete, I can't seem to receive files sent to me. This is a side issue from Yahoo's error: Error 1: Name Lookup Has Failed
[03:30] <Guest62123> commant for update new kernel?
[03:30] <mn> guest62123: why do you want to upgrade your kernel?
[03:31] <Guest62123> i want my computer run best
[03:33] <mn> it wont affect your computer performance enough to justify the trouble.  2.6.24 is the latest there is in the repositories so it would probably be difficult to upgrade.
[03:38] <mn> what command do I do to find out the wireless card I have?
[03:40] <frdt> !info lspci
[03:41] <frdt> mn: lspci
[03:41] <mn> k, thx
[03:41] <frdt> urw
[03:43] <snyh> lspci |grep 802.11
[03:43] <huu> heeeeeee
[03:45] <snyh> and  iwconfig(maybe you don't this command in you system) can configure you wireless card
[03:51] <huu> i want migrating from windows to linux. how?
[03:52] <mn> huu: we need more info
[03:55] <matr1x> download linux, jump right in
[03:55] <huu> my company is using system windows, we want migrating from windows to linux
[03:56] <huu> all system
[03:56] <matr1x> well you're using linux already it seems
[03:56] <huu> only
[03:56] <matr1x> well it really depends on what you want to migrate
[03:57] <matr1x> depends on what your business does
[03:57] <matr1x> if it has software that runs only in windows, you should look for linux alternatives or if they can run through wine and/or dosemu
[03:59] <matr1x> as you are presumably.. german, i do believe there is a fair amount of linux use in that country in that language.  im sure you could find some testimonials online from various companies that have done the switch
[04:01] <draik> huu: I wish my company would do that. Our systems are sluggish and it's all due to memory hog apps being run by our leads.
[04:01] <draik> I think there are books on the migration and how to do it.
[04:02] <draik> It's been a while, but I think I saw a book which helped with the migration. It was a bit of a "this app in Linux replaces the use of this win app...."
[04:02] <draik> IIRC, it also helped with installation and everyday use.
[04:03] <huu> oh
[04:03] <huu> thank you very much!
[04:03] <draik> It's been about 3 years, but I know I saw it years ago.
[04:05] <huu> are you used foswall ?
[04:05] <draik> For anyone using Kopete, do you have issues with file transfers?
[04:05] <huu> i want configura VPN
[04:05] <huu> but i can't
[04:12] <huu> foswall as same as ISA of windows
[04:51] <mewmew> gotta a question
[04:51] <mewmew> does a person HAVE to install 64version?
[04:51] <mewmew> i know my computer could support the 64 version, however from my understanding a lot programs don't branch to 64
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> mewmew: unless you have 4gb or more of ram, you're fine with 32-bit
[04:58] <mewmew> 4gb ddr3
[04:58] <mewmew> however the reason i would choose to go 32bit is due to program support
[05:31] <manses> I need help configuring my wireless. my laptop is a Toshiba A205-s5804
[05:33] <manses> I believe it has a realtek 8187b wireless card.
[05:34] <matr1x> its a realtek something or other card
[05:35] <manses> I need help configuring it
[05:42] <masterflex19999> je suis en live je voudrai savoir si je peux intaller firefox en livecd
[05:42] <masterflex19999> car je n'arrive pas acceder a hotmail avec konquerro
[05:43] <masterflex19999> du moin a lire le courier
[05:43] <mr---t-> !fr
[05:43] <masterflex19999> ok
[05:43] <masterflex19999> can any one tell me if possible to install firefox in livecd
[05:44] <masterflex19999> cause with konquerro i can not read my email on hotmail
[05:45] <mr---t-> live cd should include ff
[05:45] <masterflex19999> no not at all
[05:46] <masterflex19999> only konquero
[05:47] <masterflex19999> or if possible to read my email cause with konqueror i can not open it
[05:48] <mr---t-> !firefox
[05:48] <manses> I need help configuring my Realtek 81287b PCI card FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:49] <masterflex19999> no i have kubuntu 8.04.1
[05:52] <masterflex19999> is there any geek in theire
[05:52] <masterflex19999> or everyone is sleeping
[05:52] <mr---t-> manses:  run sudo lshw
[05:53] <masterflex19999> yes fool
[05:53] <masterflex19999> make yourself use full
[05:53] <mr---t-> masterflex19999:  click the link to install FF
[05:54] <masterflex19999> thanks
[05:54] <masterflex19999> am running in a livecd
[05:54] <masterflex19999> of kubuntu
[05:56] <mr---t-> manses:  google says thats not card
[05:58] <masterflex19999> bye
[05:58] <masterflex19999> thx
[05:58] <masterflex19999> see ya
[06:22] <surgy> hello
[06:22] <surgy> I have a blank DVD but no blank cds
[06:22] <surgy> and I want a copy of kubuntu
[06:22] <surgy> If i remember right there used to be a dvd version
[06:23] <surgy> or would it be ok to burn the cd iso to a dvd?
[06:23] <surgy> !dvd
[06:23] <surgy> !dvd install
[06:24] <surgy> anyone?
[06:27] <surgy> can someone help me please?
[06:39] <dwidmann> surgy:  if you're still around, what do you need?
[06:39] <surgy> well i think i found a torrent of the file
[06:40] <surgy> the latest stable kubuntu dvd is 8.04 right?
[06:40] <dwidmann> surgy, you can burn the CD ISO to a DVD, and current is 8.04.1
[06:41] <surgy> and it will boot just fine?
[06:41] <dwidmann> surgy: in K3b you'd go to "Tools -> Burn DVD ISO image", select the ISO image (doesn't matter that it's actually CD size), and yeah, burn it and it'll boot right up.
[06:41] <surgy> im in win crap xp right now
[06:42] <surgy> will i be able to use the other 2.4 gb of space for other things? opr will it automaticly take up the entire disk?
[06:42] <dwidmann> surgy: I think it'll probably take up the whole disk.
[06:42] <surgy> ahh ok well thatl be fine
[06:42] <dwidmann> surgy: Not that it should matter that much, price-wise you can get DVDs just as cheap as CDs anymore.
[06:43] <surgy> also are there any problems with the amd64 bit version that I should be aware of?
[06:43] <surgy> compatibility problems or anything?
[06:43] <surgy> i used to use the x86 version but I have an x2+ cpu now
[06:43] <dwidmann> surgy: Well, that might depend on some laptop hardware ... but for the most part on most hardware things are okay.
[06:44] <surgy> well desktop, geforce 8800 gt, 2gb ddr800, 2.8ghz athlon x2 5000+, with realtek 8 channel audio
[06:45] <dwidmann> surgy: all of that should work okay
[06:45] <surgy> kewl
[06:45] <surgy> cuz i couldnt get my onboard 8channel audio to even work in windows
[06:45] <dwidmann> surgy: the audio can be hit and miss even with very similar chipsets though
[06:45] <surgy> im using a crappy 16 bit 1 channel audigy card....
[06:46] <surgy> the defualt driver isnt going to cut it for my onboard sound huh?
[06:46] <dwidmann> surgy: it should
[06:47] <dwidmann> surgy: Some people have had trouble, most people seem to be okay.
[06:47] <dwidmann> AFAIK
[06:48] <dwidmann> surgy: oh, and if it doesn't ... keep in mind that 8.10 should come out in about 5 or 6 weeks
[06:48] <surgy> nice
[06:49] <surgy> thats going to have a stable version of kde 4 right?
[06:49] <dwidmann> surgy: Well, same version that's available to users of 8.04 right now
[06:50] <dwidmann> surgy: they've been pretty good about supplying us with packages as things are released
[06:50] <dwidmann> surgy: It'll probably be released with KDE 4.1.2
[06:50] <surgy> nice
[06:51] <surgy> my first dvd burn on a sata dvd +rw
[06:51] <surgy> just started
[06:51] <surgy> at 80%
[06:52] <dwidmann> surgy: I've got a SATA Samsung 20x DVD +-rw ... Fast fast fast fast!!
[06:52] <surgy> done
[06:52] <surgy> lol
[06:52] <surgy> very fast
[06:52] <dwidmann> surgy: and yet, I've never had a bad burn even once
[06:53] <surgy> yeah gonna go load up kubuntu seeya in comp heaven :)
[06:53] <surgy> thnx for the info btw
[06:53] <surgy> latetrs
[06:53] <dwidmann> no prob, later
[07:27] <chairman> what is freespire?
[07:32] <igos> hi all
[08:18] <chopen> hi...when i use kubuntu live cd everything is ok but when i install it my cpu fans always work at full speed...what is wrong?
[08:38] <bentob0x> is there a problem with Konqueror's text search and accents?
[08:38] <bentob0x> I'm on 7.10 with KDE 3.5.8
[08:39] <bentob0x> when I search within Konqueror for 'éfinit' it doesn't find anything, 'finit' does
[08:59] <newb> does anyone have kooldock?
[09:05] <ocs> hi. do you know when is it planned a new kubuntu release with kde4 ?
[09:07] <favro> !intrepid
[09:07] <metty_> hi all! just installed kubuntu hardy and wanted to update it.. but when i did the "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main" command i got an error: "bash: deb : command not found ...
[09:08] <jussi01> metty_: thats not a command
[09:08] <favro> metty_: that line should go in your source list
[09:08] <jussi01> you need to add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <jussi01> so kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <jussi01> then add the line
[09:09] <metty_> oh, ok thank you :)
[09:09] <jussi01> remember to sudo apt-get update
[09:12] <metty_> jussi01: so if i want to update, i first write this key in my sources.list and THEN do the apt-get update right?
[09:12] <jussi01> yes
[09:12] <metty_> thx ;)
[09:12] <jussi01> metty_: also, kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:12] <jussi01> :)
[09:17] <newb> anybody can help me with kooldock?
[09:17] <[pyro]> hmm when i add an additional panel, if i try and "configure" that panel, the options only seem to change my origional panel?
[09:17] <newb> i can't link a folder on it, it doesnt let me open the link...
[09:28] <ocs> hi. is there a way to tell (through a script or a command) the last opened window to move to desktop 2 ?
[10:10] <callaway> hello
[10:10] <metty_> will i have to install a special package for programming in cpp? i already installed then c++ compiler, but if i want to compile my hello world programm with "gcc -o file file.cpp" it says "undefined reference to std::cout etc
[10:10] <callaway> anyone know if you can connect kubuntu and vista together? LAN?
[10:11] <callaway> I mean is it possible?
[10:11] <ocs> hi. is there a way to tell (through a script or a command) the last opened window to move to desktop 2 ?
[10:11] <callaway> metty you are missing the header files
[10:12] <callaway> like stdio.h?
[10:12] <metty_> in c++ it is iostream
[10:12] <metty_> which i already included..
[10:12] <callaway> yes iostream
[10:13] <callaway> there are some issues with iostream and stdio
[10:13] <callaway> I think instead of gcc you should try cc or c++
[10:13] <callaway> :)
[10:14] <callaway> like c++ -o myprog myprog.c
[10:14] <callaway> anyways.......... do anyone know if you can connect kubuntu and vista together? LAN?
[10:15] <callaway> or peer to peer or any which way?
[10:15] <metty_> but in the manual of g++/gcc is listed, that it can compile c++ code
[10:16] <fran_> hola
[10:16] <fran_> tengo una duda a ver si alguien me echa una mano
[10:16] <fran_> hay alguien?
[10:16] <callaway> depends on which ver of gcc.... yeah use g++ instead ...I am so confused
[10:16] <callaway> anyways.......... do anyone know if you can connect kubuntu and vista together? LAN?
[10:16] <callaway> no one?
[10:17] <callaway> what ip address and network mask do you have to assign to your network card?
[10:18] <pakus> callaway: Yes It's possible
[10:19] <pakus> callaway: What type of connection?
[10:19] <callaway> pakus you did it?
[10:19] <callaway> lan
[10:19] <callaway> wired
[10:19] <pakus> callaway: But what do you want? transfer files?
[10:19] <callaway> share printer and folder
[10:19] <callaway> maybe internet in the future
[10:20] <pakus> to connect a kubuntu to a vista you need to install sambaclient on linux box
[10:20] <callaway> linux can see windows folder but windows cannot see linux folder?
[10:20] <callaway> is samba up to date with vista?
[10:21] <callaway> do i need a server? or can you do peer to peer with the 2 machines?
[10:23] <MrKennie> callaway: if you use dolphin you can share folders by right clicking them and selecting properties then click the share tab
[10:24] <callaway> what kind of hardware do I need? I have functional nic cards on both machines..... do I need a hub/switch and a server or can I just use a cross cable?
[10:25] <MrKennie> you can connect them directly with a crossover cable or you can use a hub or a switch.
[10:25] <metty_> isn't nano able to highlight c++ syntax?
[10:25] <MrKennie> you could even get a router, most of them have a built in switch so you can share the internet connection and share files locally etc.
[10:26] <callaway> ok I have a crossover cable..... that is the same as a networking cable isn't it?
[10:26] <MrKennie> callaway: yes
[10:26] <callaway> it is not communicating
[10:26] <MrKennie> callaway: well, you may need to configure your network on each machine first
[10:27] <callaway> vista detects a unknown network.... at least it sees the attached workstation
[10:27] <callaway> now how do you setup the kubuntu side?
[10:27] <MrKennie> then you're most of the way there already
[10:27] <callaway> ifconfig shows that its up
[10:27] <callaway> ifup and ifdown works
[10:28] <MrKennie> go to K -> System -> Dolphin
[10:28] <MrKennie> on the left you should see a Network icon
[10:28] <callaway> I dont have dolphin
[10:28] <callaway> i am using 6.10
[10:29] <MrKennie> ah I see
[10:29] <MrKennie> konqueror then
[10:29] <callaway> how about system settings?
[10:30] <callaway> ok konqueror and then?
[10:30] <MrKennie> do you see network folders or similar?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:30] <callaway> yeah network folder
[10:30] <MrKennie> hey ActionParsnip
[10:30] <MrKennie> callaway: ok, click that
[10:31] <MrKennie> callaway: you should see Samba Shares
[10:31] <callaway> yeah i do
[10:31] <MrKennie> callaway: ok, click on that and give a few seconds
[10:32] <MrKennie> callaway: you should see the name of your workgroup popup
[10:32] <callaway> Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.
[10:32] <callaway> haha
[10:32] <MrKennie> hm, ok, do you have sharing enabled on the windows machine?
[10:33] <callaway> yeah
[10:33] <lokai> anyone have experience with skype?
[10:33] <MrKennie> callaway: and is it set to allow locally connected machines?
[10:33] <callaway> so does this mean they are actually communicating?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> callaway: are you trying to access a shared folder on a windows system?
[10:34] <metty_> isn't Nano able to highlight c++ syntax? if not, which one is it?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> metty_: i dont think nano does highlighting
[10:34] <callaway> um yeah .....well I am just trying to get them to communicate first AcrionParsnip
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> callaway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smbmount
[10:35] <callaway> um yeah .....well I am just trying to get them to communicate first ActionParsnip
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> callaway: if you can ping the server by name it will communicate
[10:35] <MrKennie> vi/vim, mcedit and various other editors I can't recall the names of
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> vi is very strange to me
[10:36] <callaway> ActionParsnip what am I supposed to ping?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> callaway: the other systems name
[10:36] <callaway> ActionParsnip what am I supposed to ping? I havent addressed the ip addresses yet
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> callaway: the windows system has a name, ping in
[10:37] <callaway> ActionParsnip what is the system name?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> callaway: run ipconfig /all on the windows pc
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> the hostname is the pcs name
[10:37] <callaway> oh crap it does work........!!!!!!!!!! it pinged
[10:38] <callaway> lol
[10:38] <MrKennie> :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> callaway: then add the line in the link i gave you to /etc/fstab and it'll mount at bootup
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> obviously change the server name / share name and mount point to your liking
[10:38] <callaway> so in vista I should try pinging the linux machine?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> callaway: no need
[10:39] <zorglu_> q. i would like to get vlc 0.9.2 on 8.04. vlc teams doesnt support 8.04 only 8.10. is there a chance to get it backported to 8.04 ?
[10:39] <MrKennie> is it in hardy-backports?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: sudo apt-get install vlc(tab complete)
[10:40] <callaway> ok letme see that link.... geeeeeezzzz I was already connected
[10:40] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: it provide vlc 0.9.2 ?
[10:40] <callaway> novell days clouds my brain
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: no idea, give it a shot
[10:40] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: ok :)
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: tab complete the world ;0
[10:43] <zorglu_> it only provide 0.8.6
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: you could compile the source
[10:43] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: in theory :)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_:  does 0.8.6 not work on your system/
[10:44] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: nope
[10:44] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: it is ok, i will wait 2-4 weeks. maybe somebody will build the package
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:44] <MrKennie> doesn't look like it's in backports either
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: its not hard to copile stuff
[10:44] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: :)))
[10:44] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: i can tell you never tried to compile vlc :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: im doing it now with emerge in gentoo ;)
[10:45] <Wolven> Hi, i just have a slight quiery, when i login my pc establishes a connection to an IP i don't recongise or see any need for it to. It's over the www protocol, should i be worried?
[10:45] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: yep this is a possibility
[10:45] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: i could do a VM with gentoo on it, and run vlc in there
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: or use another player like mplayer
[10:45] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: on the other hand i would have to learn and maintain a  gentoo just for that
[10:46] <MrKennie> zorglu_: apt-get build-dep vlc ? and then go compile! :)
[10:46] <zorglu_> MrKennie: same thing that i said to ActionParsnip :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Wolven: is the ip an internet ip or a local ip?
[10:46] <zorglu_> ok i will wait a month and ask again. thanks :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Wolven: what setup do you have in the way of networking?
[10:46] <zorglu_> on #ubuntu-fr they banned me :)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: id use mplay or totem til then
[10:47] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: mplayer doesnt fit my need. aka converting live stream to http/flv
[10:47] <zorglu_> btw you should watch #ubuntu-fr they give ubuntu bad press
[10:47] <MrKennie> zorglu_: what about ffmpeg?
[10:48] <Wolven> Its an internet IP ( its <IP_ADDRESS> ) i have a DSL connection via a router.
[10:48] <callaway> ActionParsnip how come the windows cannot ping the linux machine while linux can ping the windows machine?
[10:48] <zorglu_> MrKennie: i think it could do it. but i dunno how to make it
[10:48] <zorglu_> MrKennie: ffmpeg doc is sparse to say the least
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> callaway: windows is weird
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> callaway: maybe your firewall is blocking the local traffic
[10:48] <callaway> ActionParsnip ah yeah that could be it
[10:49] <MrKennie> zorglu_: I used it in the past to convert stuff for playback on my psp and I've experimented with flv stuff too.
[10:49] <MrKennie> zorglu_: there is a nice guide on it somewhere, one sec
[10:49] <metty_> actually, it IS possible to highlight syntax with nano, just configure the nanorc file..
[10:49] <callaway> ActionParsnip ok samba allows printers on both machines to be shared by eachother?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> callaway: indeed
[10:49] <zorglu_> MrKennie: if you get something to remove my dependancy to vlc, i will be gratefull :)
[10:49] <zorglu_> a LOT
[10:50] <callaway> wow cool
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> callaway: id just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf. its not hard at all
[10:50] <callaway> ActionParsnip MrKennie Thanks!!!!!!
[10:50] <callaway> laters
[10:51] <MrKennie> zorglu_: there's loads of guides on it, I can't find the one I used but you'll soon pick it up
[10:52] <MrKennie> google for ffmpeg flv :)
[10:52] <zorglu_> MrKennie: ok too bad. i try to remove this vlc dependancy for more than a year now
[10:52] <Wolven> I've run RKHunter and everything is normal, i cant find out much useful information if i do a Whois on the IP.... I'm just wondering why it's started all of a sudden..
[10:52] <zorglu_> MrKennie: ActionParsnip: thanks for your help
[10:52] <MrKennie> zorglu_: only downside is trying to get the right codec support installed but once you got that figured out it works very well.
[10:53] <MrKennie> zorglu_: np
[10:53] <zorglu_> MrKennie: vlc is the weak link behind my http://player.urfastr.tv/live :)
[10:53] <MrKennie> Wolven: what is the problem again?
[10:54] <zorglu_> ok see ya :) good to see ubuntu people
[10:54] <MrKennie> ah nice
[10:54] <Wolven> When i login to my system it connects briefly to an IP i don't rcognise/see any reason for it to, i'm just wondering if i should be worried..
[10:55] <MrKennie> Wolven: have you done a whois on the ip?
[10:56] <Wolven> Yea, it doesnt seem to give me anything useful (It's <IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:56] <amerigo> caio
[10:56] <amerigo> ciao
[10:56] <amerigo> ciao
[10:57] <amerigo> there'is no boot?
[10:57] <MrKennie> Wolven: looks like a hosting provider
[10:57] <amerigo> #kubuntu-it
[10:58] <Wolven> *nods* Thats, whats got me worried.... If i can't see any sercives that would need to connect to it then what the heck is my pc doing..
[10:59] <MrKennie> Wolven: hm, well it shouldn't connect to anything when you login except if you use something like Kerberos or whatever.
[10:59] <MrKennie> Wolven: checked ps aux?
[11:00] <Wolven> Err.... Any advice on what to look for?
[11:01] <MrKennie> !pastebin
[11:01] <MrKennie> Wolven: paste it there
[11:01] <MrKennie> Wolven: you might need to maximise the window to get all of it
[11:01] <Wolven> Ok
[11:03] <Wolven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47110/
[11:04] <MrKennie> Wolven: do you have any apps startup automatically like amarok etc?
[11:05] <Wolven> Uh... well Amarok is the only app i leave running when i shut down. Does Compiz-Fusion count?
[11:06] <MrKennie> Wolven: looks like it's the lyrc script
[11:06] <MrKennie> Wolven: which is harmless
[11:07] <Wolven> Ah, ok....I understand....Thanks the help none the less.
[11:07] <MrKennie> Wolven: panic over :)
[11:09] <Wolven> Yup, thanks Guys/Girls, laters all....
[11:29] <mohi> hey
[11:30] <marcos_> hey
[11:30] <mohi> how can I know the path of my cdrom in /dev/ ?
[11:30] <mohi> :)
[11:31] <marcos_> i dunno, im new here, i just wanted to look into the channel :[ lol
[11:31] <mohi> :S
[11:31] <EagleSn> ls /dev | grep cd
[11:31] <EagleSn> my is scd0
[11:32] <EagleSn> there are also cdrom and cdrw
[11:32] <EagleSn> all these are links to scd0
[11:32] <mohi> ah! thanks EagleSn :)
[12:02] <EagleScreen>  /msg NickServ identify 715427
[12:03] <emilsedgh> EagleScreen: change your password
[12:03] <EagleScreen> why didnt work?
[12:06] <emilsedgh> EagleSn: you added a space as the first character i think
[12:08] <jussi01> EagleScreen: best to do that in the staus window always...
[12:09] <stefan__> sal
[12:11] <EagleScreen> how can I change my password now?
[12:19] <aziz> hi, my friend lives in Turkey, and his provider apparently uses NAT. I'd like to connect to his server, for example SSH or VNC, but obviously it doesn't work :/
[12:19] <aziz> is there some way to solve this problem?
[12:21] <jussi01> aziz: get him to log into his router and open the correct ports
[12:22] <jussi01> aziz: this site can be very helpful: http://portforward.com/
[12:23] <aziz> jussi01: he doesn't have a router. it's his provider which is in control of this I suppose.
[12:24] <jussi01> aziz: hrm, really? or does he have an adsl modem? they often have it in them
[12:24] <aziz> yea he mentioned an adsl modem
[12:24] <jussi01> aziz: likely its in the settings of that.
[12:25] <aziz> ah yes, that might be the case
[12:25] <aziz> thanks for the tip, gonna guide him on this
[12:26] <jussi01> :)
[12:29] <etfb> Very odd VPN problem: I can connect to my work (Windows) network using a windows PC at home, and _using a Windows virtual machine on my Kubuntu laptop_, but not using the laptop directly.  Anyone know how to set up a VPN in Kubuntu to work _exactly_ like the default in Windows?
[12:30] <etfb> At least I know the hardware and network are 100% ok, so it's Kubuntu's software that I need to sort out.
[12:30] <etfb> Any clues?
[12:37] <tom_> how do you connect to a network without using knetworkmanager
[12:40] <EagleScreen> tom_ using /etc/network/interfaces
[12:41] <tom_> is it possible to use nm-tool or something it apears to me that the rest of the NetworkManager stuff is working just not the kde tool to connect
[12:41] <EagleScreen> yes, it is possible
[12:50] <_Angelus_> guys
[12:51] <_Angelus_> i have a bootable iso9660 image , but i want to add files to it
[12:51] <_Angelus_> if i mount the image to a folder, and burn the files in that folder and my file there, would it still be bootable?
[12:53] <nicolas> salut
[13:02] <darkwizzard_> hello
[13:02] <darkwizzard_> There was a recent update for gtk-qt-engine
[13:02] <darkwizzard_> and now it's broken
[13:03] <darkwizzard_> gtk apps aren't themed
[13:03] <tom_> _Angelus_: i dont think so i think a bootable cd needs a flag set to make it bootable that ant be done by just writing data files
[13:08] <eyzee> hi guys..
[13:08] <eyzee> i have a problem..
[13:09] <eyzee> i can;'t install my sonny erickson pc suite to ubuntu
[13:10] <eyzee> its a downloaded file fron the internet
[13:10] <x3cion> link?
[13:10] <tomate> hey everyone
[13:10] <eyzee> hi
[13:10] <tomate> anyone here speaks in spanish?
[13:11] <favro> !es
[13:11] <eyzee> x3cion: what da yah mean?
[13:11] <tomate> gracias ubottu
[13:11] <x3cion> hyperlink
[13:11] <x3cion> hyper, hyper
[13:11] <jungleman> plz, help me! i've just installed kubuntu 8.04 with kde4. Now, i can't do really basic things, like adding to the panel an application which is not in the launcher list, adding to the desktop an image icon which launchs an application. I only need to know if it's my fault or this kde release still lacks basic things (in which case, i'll downgrage it to 3.5)
[13:11] <x3cion> to the suite
[13:11] <eyzee> x3cion: nope
[13:12] <x3cion> Java App?
[13:12] <eyzee> x3cion: do you if i use the free cd i had, it;'ll work with ubuntu?
[13:13] <eyzee> x3cion: not java
[13:13] <x3cion> No, I never had a Ericsson
[13:13] <eyzee> x3cion: but you have a celfon
[13:13] <eyzee> x3cion: like when you buy one, you a free cd for your pc
[13:13] <x3cion> Well it depends on the app you try to install
[13:14] <eyzee> x3cion: its an .exe file
[13:14] <x3cion> use wine
[13:14] <eyzee> x3cion: i use wine in it to open the file
[13:14] <x3cion> oh
[13:15] <eyzee> x3cion: but it said that sony erickson does not support ubuntu os
[13:16] <eyzee> x3cion: what is the brand of your phone you use?
[13:16] <x3cion> I dont have an ericsson ...
[13:17] <eyzee> x3cion: have you tried installing a pc suite in you pc with ubuntu os?
[13:19] <x3cion> eyzee:
[13:19] <TiredWolf> eyzee: most likely, trying to use the PC Suite in Ubuntu would be futile. use multisync instead. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/SonyEricsson
[13:19] <x3cion> oh
[13:19] <eyzee> x3cion: can it read any cellphone brands?
[13:21] <x3cion> better ask TiredWolf lol
[13:21] <eyzee> tiredwolf: can it read my erickson cellphone?
[13:21] <TiredWolf> eyzee, it does say "Sony Ericsson", doesn't it?
[13:21] <eyzee> tiredwolf: yup
[13:21] <TiredWolf> eyzee: then i would assume so
[13:22] <eyzee> tiredwolf: sorry 'bout the spelling..lol
[13:23] <santiago-ve> eyzee: probably you can mount your phone as a storage drive
[13:23] <santiago-ve> it should have the option for that
[13:24] <santiago-ve> and if you want to sync your phone's contacts and so on... try the OpenSync framework (or funanbol if you have a smartphone)
[13:25] <eyzee> santiago-ve: tried it already...no good
[13:26] <eyzee> santiago-ve: i n\have to use my phone as a modem.
[13:27] <santiago-ve> eyzee: use gnome gnome-ppp or kppp then
[13:28] <santiago-ve> or wvmdial
[13:28] <santiago-ve> conect it with the usb cable
[13:28] <santiago-ve> your phone should have its device in /dev/ttyACM0
[13:29] <zomak> I'm using kubuntus latest stable version with KDE4.1 with it. the problem is xv is not working correctly with my radeon mobility 9600 driver. All i get is blue screen in video
[13:30] <zomak> Any idea how to solve it ?
[13:33] <eyzee> santiago-ve: thanks i'll try it...
[13:41] <sbucat> hi anyone can make a package for this http://www.cli-apps.org/content/show.php?content=89259
[13:41] <sbucat> it's a video analyzer
[13:52] <aotianlong> what hapend?
[13:52] <TiredWolf> !netsplit
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:53] <aotianlong> ok
[13:53] <aotianlong> i c
[14:09] <etfb> Does anyone have any experience getting VPNs to work, connecting to a Windows network?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | etfb
[14:16] <etfb> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but that looks like it's been vandalised.  Or is a list of context-free dot points with no explanation and not even an expansion of the acronyms really the best I can hope for?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> etfb: theres the forums.... in what context do you mean vpn?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> etfb: connecting to one, or running a vpn server?
[14:18] <etfb> ActionParsnip: Connecting to a Windows network.  That is, I have a Linux laptop at home and a Windows network at work, and I want to be able to use the laptop to work from home.
[14:19] <etfb> ActionParsnip: Works OK on the Windows machine at home, and in the Windows VMWare virtual machine running on the laptop, so the hardware and network are fine.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> etfb: so you want to vpn in to work
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> from home
[14:19] <etfb> ActionParsnip: Yep.  Got any links to tutorials, trouble-shooting guides, etc?  I can't find anything, after weeks of googling.
[14:20] <etfb> ActionParsnip: Used to be fine in Kubuntu Gutsy, but no luck since I upgraded to Hardy.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[14:22] <etfb> ActionParsnip: Ah! Information at last!  Thank you!
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> np
[14:22] <LeeJunFan> etfb: I've never done it to windows but I remember there being a kvpn or some such tool.
[14:23] <etfb> LeeJunFan: Yes, there's kvpnc, but I couldn't get it to behave, and there was some talk on forums and mailing lists about it being untrustworthy.
[14:23] <etfb> LeeJunFan: The other method involves installing the Gnome version of networkmanager because of a long-standing bug in the KDE version that prevents you configuring new VPN connections.
[14:24] <etfb> I sometimes feel like I should ask KDE
[14:24] <etfb> I sometimes feel like I should ask KDE's maintainers what software they personally use every day, and never try to use anything else, because it won't be supported...
[14:25] <artur_> i search people, who come from japan
[14:29] <etfb> artur_: The English idiom in this context is "I am searching for people...".  If you say "I search people", it's like saying "I examine people", the way a doctor does, although it's very odd.  So: why are you searching for Japanese people in an English-language channel devoted to a version of Linux?
[14:50] <thuanlove> good evening evrybody
[14:50] <thuanlove> nice to meet u
[14:51]  * genii sips his coffee and waits for the support questions
[14:51] <mrunagi> can anyone help me figure out why my sd card wont automount?
[15:00] <sandandy> have a Q.. how do I get a window game to work on ubuntu?
[15:00] <mrunagi> wine
[15:00] <sandandy> how do i use wine?
[15:01] <mrunagi> !wine
[15:01] <sandandy> thnx
[15:09] <arpan> Hello friends
[15:10] <arpan> I've got a problem with dolphin, I installed kubuntu intrepid alpha 5 few days back. Now dolphin does not mount any of the partitions when clicked on the icon in places bar
[15:11] <arpan> It was working with live cd but doesn't work after installation to HD. any work around?
[15:19] <Bikerbob> anyone this morning (here) feel like helping me get an Xorg config going so I can get a desktop up and running?
[15:20] <ghostcube> Bikerbob: card ?
[15:20] <ghostcube> and what u wanna do
[15:21] <Bikerbob> OLD ATI very old Mach64 and I just want to get it to boot to X.. startx errors out.. no screen with a valid configuration
[15:22] <Bikerbob> failsafe does not work either
[15:23] <Bikerbob> trying to reconfig with the dpkxorg thingy.. (sorry) just gives me a black screen as its asking me for the pci address of the card.. and I cant figure that out from the output of lspci
[15:24] <Bikerbob> ALL I want is to get it up! 800 x 600 is fine.. in vesa is fine.. just a desktop! lol
[15:24] <ghostcube> Bikerbob: hmm can u post xorg.conf to nopaste.info
[15:25] <ghostcube> and xorg.0.log its in var/log
[15:25] <ghostcube> brb
[15:26] <Bikerbob> maybe.. but it would take a while, I have to reboot into it.. save those to the none linux partitions.. reboot back to a working OS and then get back on here and post them up
[15:27] <Bikerbob> since I have no gui in linux
[15:33] <frybye> Hi I just inserted a 1GB usb pen drive and KDE1 (Dolphin) is telling me I have to mount it as root... sbdy please tell me how to do this - eh - when I plug in a usb drive I need to access it - not play around with it - but there you are... ;(
[15:38]  * rocknlnx would anyone be seriously interseted working on a couple of upstart websites pm me if you are
[15:41] <frybye> I read in man mount that I need to use command    mount -t type device dir - but I dont know what type and dir should be .. i take it the /dev/sdb1 that sudo fdisk -l gave me is the right device but???
[15:44] <noaXess> hi all
[15:44] <noaXess> i have a new mp3 player.. cross x-touch www.cross-ce-com
[15:45] <noaXess> problem is here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/47155/
[15:46] <killac> can i use unetbootin with a win xp cd iso to create a functional bootable usb?
[15:47] <frybye> its a bit dissapointing to see 40+ users here and no response on how to manually mount a usb drive.. googling produces complex stuff about complex special cases not the basics ...
[15:47] <killac> true for creating a bootable usb win xp iso as well
[15:48] <killac> sorry for the windows questions, but i think ubuntu has wreaked havoc on my cdrom
[15:48] <killac> need to reinstall xp ;(
[15:56] <cvw> is there a Kubuntu application that assists with the setup and configuration of multiple monitors?
[15:56] <frybye> Hi again - I just trued   sudo mount -t dos /dev/sdb1 /media/disk - but it says mount: unknown filesystem type 'dos' shoud it be ntfs ??
[15:56] <reagleBRKLN> since this morning my gtk apps don't share my kde colors anymore.
[15:56] <ghostcube> -t usbfs
[15:57] <frybye> reagleBRKLN: everybody is   asking - like me too - but NO replys so far.. ;(
[15:57] <frybye> thanks ghostcube
[15:57] <Bikerbob> ghostcube: if I get that output.. you still going to be around?
[15:57] <ghostcube> kubuntu isnt the fast responding chan
[15:57] <ghostcube> Bikerbob: should if not iam later on again
[15:59] <Bikerbob> so those two items will help us pin point whats going wrong with the startup of X eh?
[15:59] <reagleBRKLN> frybye: perhaps it has to do with the package gtk-qt-engine now being used for kde4, perhaps it used to exist for the 3.5.9 users?
[16:00] <frybye> reagleBRKLN: i am clueless - pretty much a noob... sorry no idea...
[16:00] <noaXess> frybye: vfat
[16:01] <noaXess> anyone anidea about my mp3 player, http://paste.ubuntu.com/47155/
[16:01] <noaXess> i can't connect it
[16:01] <frybye> something went pretty wron withwhat I did just now.. hmmm
[16:01] <frybye> thanks noaXess
[16:01] <noaXess> frybye: is it empty?
[16:02] <noaXess> do you see the device name? /dev/sd??
[16:02] <frybye> no it is not...!!!
[16:02] <frybye> yes sdb1
[16:02] <noaXess> sudo fdisk /dev/sdb and then p
[16:02] <noaXess> what partition types are there?
[16:03] <frybye> so I need sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk   or???
[16:03] <frybye> nfts
[16:04] <noaXess> frybye: normaly vfat.. and it shoudl autorecognize it..
[16:04] <noaXess> should
[16:04] <frybye> ok - try...
[16:06] <frybye> noaXess: it says wron fs type, bad option, bad superblock on etc etc...
[16:06] <noaXess> frybye: if you fdsik it or what?
[16:07] <frybye> I hve only done sudo fdisk -l on it...
[16:08] <frybye> dmesg | tail says that - appart from other stuff.. cant find a valid fat filesystem on...
[16:08] <frybye> I will run gparted ans see what is on there ok???
[16:10] <frybye> it finds a ntfs disk with 976mib on it..
[16:10] <frybye> with a closed lock icon!???
[16:11] <noaXess> frybye: does your usb has any lock function?
[16:11] <frybye> no not that I know but gparted says it is mounted on /media/disk... hmm should be accessable or...?
[16:12] <frybye> ok for some reason it is working now - i am happy - let others figure out why it happened.. bye now and thanks a million... -smile-
[16:13] <noaXess> nop
[16:18] <noaXess> what kernel option or other apps need an mp3 player..
[16:18] <noaXess> i can't connect my new one..
[16:18] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47155/
[16:19] <EagleScreen> noaXess what kind of MP3 player do u have
[16:19] <noaXess> cross x-touch from http://www.cross-ce.com/
[16:20] <noaXess> it should be recognized as a normal usb storage
[16:22] <noaXess> EagleScreen: any idea?
[16:22] <EagleScreen> [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[16:22] <noaXess> EagleScreen: but i see no device.. also no /dev/sdb
[16:23] <noaXess> EagleScreen: have more: scsi_id[31416]: scsi_id: unable to access '/block/sdb'
[16:24] <EagleScreen> please paste full dmesg output
[16:25] <EagleScreen> usa dmesg command in place of dmesg | tail
[16:27] <noaXess> EagleScreen: all of dmesg?
[16:27] <noaXess> ok
[16:28] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47167/
[16:30] <pteague_work> how do i remove the google search or at least make it smaller in konqueror?
[16:36] <noaXess> EagleScreen: any idea?
[16:37] <EagleScreen> hi, i was away a momment
[16:38] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47167/
[16:39] <jofko> *hi
[16:39] <jofko> * hi
[16:40] <jofko> ou wrong channel, bye
[16:40] <EagleScreen> when and where did u obtain error: scsi_id[31416]: scsi_id: unable to access '/block/sdb'
[16:42] <noaXess> EagleScreen: in /var/log/syslog and at the end
[16:42] <EagleScreen> can u see the icon of the player in file manager?
[16:46] <noaXess> EagleScreen: there is nothing, cause it can't be mounted
[16:46] <EagleScreen> you have a problem if you haven't  /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1
[16:46] <noaXess> lsusb shows it a second and then it's gone
[16:46] <noaXess> o really
[16:47] <EagleScreen> check the output of "ls /dev | grep sd"
[16:48] <noaXess> EagleScreen: nothing..
[16:49] <noaXess> trust me i know what i do.. and it can't be connected.. usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 24
[16:49] <EagleScreen> your hard disk are /dev/hdax inst?
[16:49] <noaXess> sda
[16:49] <noaXess> no sdb's
[16:51] <EagleScreen> when you see usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 22, did you unplugged the MP3 player?
[16:52] <slow-motion> hi
[16:52] <noaXess> EagleScreen: no.. it is pluged in.. just tried it on other system, same system and kernel.. same problem
[16:52] <noaXess> EagleScreen: i found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/232070
[16:53] <noaXess> caus in lsusb i see the device id same as in above bug
[16:53] <EagleScreen> mmmm one momment
[16:56] <EagleScreen> noaXess did you test with Ubuntu (not Kubuntu) or other?
[16:58] <Kubunto> a
[16:58] <EagleScreen> noaXess you also should test with kernel 2.6.27, it is on Intrepid, and if it works, you should mention it on Launchpad
[16:59] <noaXess> EagleScreen: but 2.6.27 isn't available for hardy right?
[17:01] <EagleScreen> noaXess i am going to check it
[17:02] <noaXess> EagleScreen: i don't see it in adept_manager
[17:02] <EagleScreen> ofcourse, you had to use Intrepid repository
[17:03] <EagleScreen> i am going to check if you could install it over hardy
[17:04] <EagleScreen> yes, it seems you can install it without problems, but do not remove your current kernel
[17:04] <noaXess> EagleScreen: wow.. hm..
[17:04] <noaXess> EagleScreen: and where are the repos for intrepid?
[17:04] <noaXess> or your information about it?
[17:05] <EagleScreen> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
[17:05] <noaXess> be away for a while.. can you post it private?
[17:05] <noaXess> EagleScreen: aha thanks..
[17:05] <EagleScreen> install the "linux" metapackage
[17:06] <[pyro]> so you can install kernel from intrepid in hardy? hmm i wonder if that will fix my wireless problem.
[17:07] <EagleScreen> it is possible
[17:07] <EagleScreen> you can try it
[17:07] <[pyro]> yeah ill just be sure to keep the current kernel
[17:08] <[pyro]> i think ill just grab the deb's and install them by hand
[17:08] <EagleScreen> an ubuntu kernel is equipped with multiple .deb packages
[17:09] <EagleScreen> the easiest way is to add intrepid repository, install "linux" metapackage without upgrading anything more, disble intrepid repository and done
[17:10] <[pyro]> yep cool
[17:24] <vbgunz> damn I'd like the new vlc 9.2 but don't want to build it...
[17:25] <vikku> i wanted to know what is the speed b/w my computer and Modem/router i have .....and the speed b/w modem router to my ISP .....how can i determine it ?
[17:34] <ghostcube> speedmeter.de
[17:41] <soded> Hi guys, i'm quite new to ubuntu (first time i install Linux) and I need some help.. anyone out there wanna give me a hand?
[17:42] <Freku> just ask  and wait
[17:42] <soded> well the thing is that i need to connect to the school computers using scp or sftp but i don't know how on Ubuntu.
[17:45] <soded> Need to copy some files from my catalog in school to my homecomputer but don't know what program to use to connect / copy the files. So if any1 can help me It would be very appreciated
[17:45] <Freku> i dont know about scp sftp
[17:46] <Freku> but you try google
[17:46] <Freku> search on " ubuntu scp"
[17:46] <soded> ok thx for the tip
[17:47] <Freku> idd  i found a tutorial about that
[17:47] <Freku> so easy to find
[17:59] <soded> darn i'm stuck at this point:
[17:59] <soded> 3.
[17:59] <soded> How do I SSH into a remote Ubuntu machine?
[17:59] <soded>
[17:59] <soded> [Note]
[17:59] <soded> Assuming that the remote Ubuntu machine has installed SSH Server service. Read How do I install an SSH Server?. Remote Ubuntu machine IP address:<IP_ADDRESS>
[17:59] <soded>    1.
[17:59] <soded>       ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:00] <Tm_T> erp
[18:00] <TiredWolf> soded: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:00] <TiredWolf> !paste
[18:00] <Tm_T> soded: you are doing what exactly?
[18:00] <soded> i'm trying to connect to my school computer to download a file from there to my computer
[18:00] <Tm_T> hmmm
[18:00] <soded> using scp
[18:00] <Tm_T> is there ssh server?
[18:01] <soded> yes
[18:01] <Tm_T> scp user@remotehost/path/to/file /local/path/
[18:01] <Tm_T> right?
[18:01] <soded> tirewolf: i did install openssh-server
[18:02] <soded> ps: i'm totally new to linux / ubuntu so i've got no clue what i'm doing.
[18:02] <TiredWolf> then i don't know why you pasted all that stuff
[18:02] <soded> googled a guide on scp
[18:02] <soded> http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch07s03.html#installssh
[18:02] <soded> but that didn't help me so much.
[18:02] <Tm_T> !scp
[18:03] <soded> anyways they say that i should connect by typinh login-X.student.lth.se (where X stands between number 1-16)
[18:03] <soded> thereafter type in my username / password
[18:04] <Tm_T> soded: you can provide username while connecting, IIRC
[18:04] <soded> ok...
[18:04] <soded> but how to connect to "login-X.student.lth.se" ?
[18:05] <Tm_T> soded: as given instructions
[18:05] <Tm_T> scp user@remotehost/path/to/file /local/path/
[18:05] <Tm_T> where remotehost is login-X.student.lth.se
[18:05] <soded> ok i'll give it a try
[18:08] <soded> "cp: cannot stat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>No such file or directory"
[18:09] <surgy> hi
[18:11] <soded> is there a way to connect to the computer and check the path on which ur standard directory lies? (I've got a a catalog there and i'm not sure the whole path to my catalog)
[18:13] <soded> ok i'm in
[18:13] <soded> thx
[18:13] <soded> now let me find a way to copy the file i want.
[18:15] <soded> scp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>~
[18:15] <soded> Invalid command.
[18:15] <soded> i'm connected to the computer, how do i copy the file i want to my computer?
[18:17] <soded> rsync -v -u -a --delete --rsh=ssh --stats username@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/username/remotefile.txt .
[18:17] <soded> something i found in the guide
[18:21] <kudar> if someone can get the intel4965 to not be slow in linux i'll give you 50 bucks
[18:39] <Black_Monkey> hey, can I install 8.04 on a windows machine using daemon tools? save me a cd
[18:39] <Black_Monkey> dvd, rather
[18:40] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> "The following packages have been kept back:" how do i install those?
[18:40] <LeeJunFan> is there any other way to get amarok to use all my speakers (5.1) other than to use "duplicate front" in the mixer.  If I try that, it says action "reload" failed and still uses KDM. any help?
[18:48] <Dragonath> goldmetal: this is a router's routing table?
[18:48] <Donneedshelp> I didn't really know what I was doing...
[18:48] <goldmetal> Dragonath, it's linux's 'route -v' command
[18:49] <Donneedshelp> Where do I find X configuration?
[18:51] <Dragonath> Donneedshelp: look for the xorg.conf file
[18:51] <Jampiter> How do I change the login manager from kdm to gdm without dpkg-reconfigure gdm? If I try that, it says action "reload" failed and still uses KDM. any help? Anyone? Please help me! :)
[18:51] <Dragonath> Jampiter: same for you, I'm pretty sure you have to change it in the xorg.conf file
[18:51] <Dragonath> however I wouldn't mess around with it unless I knew really well what I was doing :)
[18:52] <Jampiter> Ok, thanks
[18:52] <bobbo85> Is there a way to bind a keyboard shortcut to "delete the song currently playing, and skip to the next song" in any of the players?  (Amarok, etc)
[18:52] <Jampiter> Yeah, that's how I scewed up my old install
[18:52] <genii> Jampiter: You use dpkg-reconfigure <the one you're currently using>       and then choose the one you want to be using
[18:52]  * Jampiter tries that
[18:53] <Jampiter> Great! That's gone through. Now to log out :D
[18:53] <sobczyk> Jampiter: /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[18:53] <Jampiter> I'll try that if it hasn't worked :)
[18:54] <Jampiter> Thanks for your help guys!
[18:55] <Jampiter> Oh no! It's still using kdm!
[18:56] <Jampiter> What was that thing again? :)
[18:57] <sobczyk>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[18:57] <Jampiter> Ok, thanks :)
[18:57] <sobczyk> but check where you have gdm before
[18:57] <sobczyk> not to end up whout a login manager
[18:57] <Jampiter> Ok
[18:57] <Jampiter> Do I just put in the gdm directory?
[18:58] <sobczyk> is the gdm executable
[18:58] <bobbo85> Amarok keeps telling me it "Cannot talk to klauncher" - what can I do to make it talk?!
[18:58] <Jampiter> Ok, what file format is that?
[18:58] <sobczyk> is should be in /usr/bin
[18:58] <sobczyk>  /usr/bin/gdm probably
[18:59] <Jampiter> There's a load of different GDM binaries
[19:00] <Jampiter> Which one do I choose?
[19:00] <sobczyk> gdm should do
[19:01] <Jampiter> There's no gdm one
[19:01] <sobczyk> whereis gdm
[19:01] <Jampiter> There's a load of ones starting with gdm though
[19:01] <sobczyk> in the console
[19:01] <Jampiter> How do I find that out?
[19:01] <sobczyk> type "whereis gdm"
[19:02] <Jampiter> Ok
[19:02] <sobczyk> or "whereis -b gdm" for binaries only
[19:02] <Jampiter> /usr/sbin/gdm is that it?
[19:03] <Jampiter> Found it!
[19:03] <Jampiter> Now how do I set that up with X?
[19:04] <sobczyk> just write the path to binary to the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[19:04] <Guest83619> Im from BRazil
[19:04] <Guest83619> See my web site
[19:05] <Guest83619> www.awgmudancas.com
[19:05] <Jampiter> Hm... it alrealdy has /usr/sbin/gdm there o_O
[19:05] <pumpkin> i need some help on kubuntu getting it to recognize a D-Link Wireless card
[19:06] <pumpkin> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:06] <Jampiter> Ah well, I'll just leave it with KDM for now
[19:06] <Jampiter> Can I get the Human greeter theme for KDM?
[19:07] <sobczyk> are you sure it was kdm?
[19:07] <jimmie_bO> pumpkin, are you sure that one works without m$? :/
[19:07] <Jampiter> Yeah, had the Kubuntu theme
[19:07] <sobczyk> you can launch gnome from kdm and kde from gdm
[19:07] <noaXess> does anybody know, why my mp3 player can't be connected.. i get a syslog entry: scsi_id: unable to access '/block/sdb'
[19:07] <noaXess> and the device will be disconnected.
[19:07] <pumpkin> actually we just got it to work
[19:08] <sobczyk> and the splash screen is independent also
[19:08] <pumpkin> problems are always fixed by asking
[19:08] <Guest83619> OLÁ
[19:08] <pumpkin> thanks for willing to help
[19:08] <Guest83619> ALGUÉM FALA PORTUGUÊS
[19:08] <Guest83619> POR AI
[19:08] <Jampiter> I mean it had the login window with kubuntu at the top and the blue background
[19:08] <Guest83619> DO YOU DO SPEAK PORTUGUESE
[19:10] <Jampiter> Nevermind. I'll live with it :p
[19:10] <sobczyk> Jampiter: check out system settings
[19:10] <Jampiter> I tried that
[19:10] <Jampiter> No theme mentioned
[19:10] <sobczyk> then system services
[19:11] <sobczyk> there should be gdm and kdm
[19:11] <Jampiter> How do I open that?
[19:11] <sobczyk> you are in kde?
[19:11] <Jampiter> Gnome
[19:12] <MoRpHeUz> hey, does icecc work correctly under kubuntu ? I mean, while using it the machines with kubuntu just start receiving "time out" from the scheduler and then disconnetcs...
[19:12] <sobczyk> uhh go to /etc/rc2.d
[19:13] <MoRpHeUz> and if you try to run using /etc/init.d/icecc start, it doesnt create the log file
[19:13] <Jampiter> Ok
[19:13] <sobczyk> there is a lot of files with K ans S prefixes; K- don't run, S - run
[19:13] <sobczyk> rc2.d is for graphical mode in ubuntu
[19:14] <sobczyk> change K<number>gdm to S<number>gdm
[19:14] <sobczyk> and the opposite with kdm
[19:15] <Jampiter> Yeah
[19:15] <sobczyk> the number is the order the system launches the programs, though don't change it
[19:17] <Jampiter> Hmm... both kdm and gdm are S
[19:17] <Jampiter> but kdm launces first
[19:17] <Jampiter> So I set kdm to K?
[19:17] <sobczyk> yes
[19:17] <Jampiter> Ok, done that
[19:17] <broth> hello i'd like to get ride of konqueror, using dolphin, how do i do that without ruining the kubuntu distro?
[19:17] <Jampiter> Brb while I try it :D
[19:18] <bobbo85> Any time I make a system change, I get stuck with an endless "updating system configuration" that keeps looping to 100% over and over.  How can I fix this?
[19:18] <Lanoxx> can anyone tell me with what parameters i should boot the kubuntu kernel? i choose to install kubuntu without grub
[19:19] <Lanoxx> since i already have a boot loader installed that i didnt want to break
[19:20] <broth> how do i get rid of konqueror?
[19:20] <Lanoxx> broth:  you dont
[19:21] <sobczyk> broth: try "sudo apt-get -s remove konqueror" to check what will be removed
[19:21] <Jampiter> Ok, that worked, but gdm's screen resolution was wrong
[19:21] <broth> sobczyk: yes but the thing is that konqueror by default makes run a lot of apps
[19:21] <sobczyk> Jampiter: I think it chooses the biggest from xorg.conf
[19:21] <Jampiter> Is there a way to fix that without touching Xorg.conf? (That's how I broke my old install..)
[19:22] <broth> sobczyk: for example i have kooldock installed and it wont let me open the "home" link without konqueror... can u help?
[19:22] <sobczyk> theres no setting for default filebrowser in kooldock?
[19:23] <broth> sobczyk: i mean i already removed it with that command but i had to re-install it cuz stuff like kooldock wasnt working
[19:23] <broth> sobczyk: apparently it seems there is
[19:23] <Jampiter> Meh, I'll live with kdm
[19:24] <broth> sobczyk: i also went on system setting > fill association to put dolphin as a default file manager for everything, but nothing changed
[19:24] <broth> im getting crazy with that...
[19:25] <Jampiter> I'll live with KDM. Thanks anyway!
[19:25] <sobczyk> Jampiter: kdmtheme - theme manager for KDM
[19:26] <sobczyk> it'll integrate with kcontrol
[19:26] <Jampiter> Whoops, repeated myself :p
[19:26] <Jampiter> is that installed by default?
[19:26] <sobczyk> I had to install it
[19:27] <Jampiter> Ok, I'll look for that
[19:27] <sobczyk> broth: http://sathyasays.com/2007/06/18/making-dolphin-the-default-file-manager/
[19:29] <soded> fast question: I'm currently working on a latex report and when i type "latex rapportmall.tex" i get the following question:
[19:29] <soded> ! Font T1/cmr/m/n/10=ecrm1000 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not fou
[19:29] <soded> nd.
[19:29] <soded> <to be read again>
[19:29] <soded>                    relax
[19:29] <soded> l.100 \fontencoding\encodingdefault\selectfont
[19:29] <soded>
[19:29] <soded> ?
[19:29] <soded> anyone know what i should write there?
[19:29] <bobbo85> Is there any way to make amarok go faster without doing all the work changing over to the full sql server thing?
[19:30] <sobczyk> isnt there a tex/latex channel?
[19:30] <soded> no idea actually... i'm new here
[19:31] <Lanoxx> soded: try #tex or #latex maybe
[19:31] <soded> guess there is.
[19:31] <soded> ye thx.
[19:31] <Lanoxx> soded: there is ususally a channel for everything
[19:39] <numberi> hi
[19:40] <broth> sobczyk: thank you now the only prob is when opening a folder link with "kooldock" it won't let me open it because konqueror is not there anymore, that's what it says "KDEInit could not launch '/media/sdb1/archeological remains'." how do i make kooldock open it through dolphin?? (if this is the prob)
[19:40] <numberi> iptables, ufw turned off, but azures, utorrent says that ports are closed
[19:40] <jussi01> numberi: how about your router, behind a nat?
[19:41] <numberi> it's working because in windows all works
[19:42] <jussi01> numberi: also, tried ktorrent? excellent torrent client....
[19:42] <numberi> yes, i use it
[19:43] <numberi> kubuntu 8.04 kde 4.1.1
[19:46] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[19:46] <FuriousGeorge> i want to install kubuntu on a raid array, but im having trouble putting the alternate cd on a pendrive
[19:47] <FuriousGeorge> would i be able to use any linux distro to setup the raid array, then load a module or something so that the regular installer understands it?
[19:48] <FuriousGeorge> i had set up an array using LVM, but the kubuntu installer only say sda and sdb
[19:48] <ghostcube> numberi: sure u get the same ip o linux as on windows or is this staticand not dhcp
[19:48] <FuriousGeorge> s/say/saw
[19:49] <numberi> it's dahcp
[19:49] <numberi> *dhcp
[19:49] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[19:51] <talavis> anyone succeded in setting up a dev environment with the packages for kde 4.1.1?
[19:51] <talavis> my cmake just keeps on saying it cant find kde4-config
[19:54] <KRF> talavis, its build when you compile KDE/kdelibs
[19:55] <KRF> (kde4-config)
[19:56] <numberi> iptables, ufw turned off, but azures, utorrent says that ports are closed
[19:56] <numberi> kubuntu 8.04 kde 4.1.1
[19:58] <talavis> KRF: i installed the packages for 4.1.1, I have a separate account with trunk that works fine, but I wanted to test developing with my usual account instead
[19:58] <talavis> you don't know anything about how to set it up for those?
[19:59] <hurt> looks like your router is not set up properly
[19:59] <hurt> numberi:
[20:00] <numberi> how can i make static ip? not dhcp
[20:00] <hurt> just set up an IP adress on your client.
[20:00] <lizzie> When I alt-tab, kde cycles through the windows in a constant order.  How can I make it cycle through windows in order by how recently they were used, so I can use it to switch back and forth between two windows easily?
[20:01] <numberi> where?
[20:02] <numberi> where?
[20:03] <hurt> the easy way, numberi?
[20:03] <numberi> yes
[20:03] <hurt> kde3?
[20:04] <numberi> kde4
[20:05] <hurt> hmm good question...
[20:05] <hurt> ah
[20:05] <zay> couldn't find a gif slide show editor for simple task. any suggestions?
[20:05] <hurt> right click on the network button in your system tray
[20:06] <hurt> "Manual Configuration"
[20:06] <hurt> "Configure Interfaces"
[20:07] <hurt> there you are... but you should also set up your routers IP adress as default gateway.
[20:10] <numberi> but when i press manual it ask passwoed and nothing apears
[20:10] <hurt> yeah there you should enter your password ;)
[20:11] <numberi> i enter and nothing
[20:13] <keldrona> hello... I got a problem with Firefox. Sometimes when I open it, it can't open and says: Another firefox is running, please restart your sistem. So I press Ctrl+Esc, and I kill firefox, and then, sometimes this trick works, sometimes no. I use Kubuntu
[20:18] <Jampiter> Hi
[20:18] <Jampiter> How do I change the login manager from outside Kubuntu? I kind of broke it
[20:18] <Jampiter> It now shows a black screen
[20:19] <Jampiter> I'm using a Kubuntu LiveCD
[20:19] <hurt> numberi: you might want to use ifconfig
[20:20] <icelab> hi people
[20:21] <icelab> i got a big problem i have deleted all flash plugin in the konqueror configuration area
[20:21] <icelab> and the nsplugin
[20:22] <icelab> what i havce to do for reinstall everything?
[20:22] <sobczyk> Jampiter dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[20:24] <sobczyk> though under a livecd I think youll need to chroot to your root directory
[20:29] <stefano> ciao
[20:29] <icelab> hi stefano
[20:29] <stefano> e' la prima volta per me
[20:30] <stefano> ciao
[20:31] <jussi01> !it
[20:31] <stefano> all right
[20:39] <okotuki> I have intsalled the latest distribution of kubuntu on dell inspiron 1525 laptop. There is no sound on both speakers and headphones. Can someone help? As newby in linux, please explain to me like anidiot
[20:39] <bobbo85> How can I get kubuntu to stop unmounting my drives on reboot?
[20:41] <ign0ramus> okotuki: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776516
[20:42] <icelab> babbo 85 sei it?
[20:43] <sobczyk> bobbo85: go to system settings->advanced
[20:43] <sobczyk> there you can find settings for mounting drives
[20:44] <sobczyk> "drives & filesystems" something like that
[20:44] <bobbo85> sobczyk, i don't see anything like that
[20:45] <ign0ramus> bobbo85: its exactly where he said, but it's called "Disk and Filesystems"
[20:45] <bobbo85> "Audio cds, autostart, cddb retrieval, digital camera, file associations, input actions, kde resources,kde wallet, nepomuk, service manager, session manager, solid, login manager"
[20:47] <ign0ramus> bobbo85: alternately, you can find it in Kcontrol > System Administration
[20:47] <ign0ramus> bobbo85: at least running kde3... don't know if it's changed in kde4
[20:47] <sobczyk> bobbo85: system setting is probably on the bottom of your K-menu (in kde3)
[20:48] <bobbo85> i don't have a kcontrol, and nothing showed up in the launcher alt+f2...
[20:48] <ign0ramus> bobbo85: are you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[20:48] <bobbo85> kubuntu
[20:49] <bobbo85> but i just upgraded to 4.1.1... btw that somehow erased all entries in "computer" for the kmenu, and "places" is empty too
[20:49] <okotuki> ign0ramus: my directory in /lib/modules/ is 2.6.24-19-generic, not 2.6.24-17-generic as I have insalled kubuntu on a new laptop
[20:49] <ign0ramus> okotuki: that's why it references 'uname -r'.  enter your kernel.
[20:50] <ign0ramus> !kde4
[20:50] <numberi> iptables, ufw turned off, but azures, utorrent says that ports are closed
[20:50] <numberi> kubuntu 8.04 kde 4.1.1
[20:50] <ign0ramus> bobbo85: you may find better help in the kde4 channel
[20:50] <numberi> how can i make static ip? not dhcp
[20:50] <bobbo85> i wish ign0ramus but nobody is responding in there :-(
[20:51] <heinkel_111> I think ubbottu needs updating to 4.1.1
[20:51] <ign0ramus> numberi: you need to follow a port-forwarding tutorial
[20:52] <numberi> it's not working
[20:52] <numberi> i used it
[20:53] <ign0ramus> numberi: how do you make what a static ip?  it depends on your isp... are you paying for a static ip?
[20:53] <ign0ramus> bobbo85: can you install kcontrol?
[20:53] <gkffjcs> really obscure question, is there a way to get a bash shell on a remote host via irc? Note: i don't mean hacking or anything like that, I have a remote box behind an isp's nat router, so the only thing I can think of us using irc, as a bridge.
[20:54] <numberi> i talk about router and dhcp
[20:54] <ign0ramus> numberi: ok, but does your isp give you a static ip?  if not, it would be pointless to set your router to static
[20:55] <ign0ramus> numberi: and what does this have to do with allowing ports for bittorrent?
[20:55] <bobbo85> ign0ramus, i don't see kcontrol in adept add programs
[20:55] <sobczyk> gkffjcs: better use ssh -D or ssh -L
[20:55] <numberi> no,  there are all ports are closed and it's working in windows
[20:56] <numberi> Starting Nmap 4.75 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2008-09-15 21:49 Central Europe Daylight Time
[20:56] <numberi> All 1001 scanned ports on <IP_ADDRESS> are closed
[20:57] <ign0ramus> numberi: http://portforward.com/routers.htm  Please read and follow the instructions.  It doesn't get any more simple.
[20:58] <Engelus> где находятся закладки в Konqueror
[20:58] <Tm_T> !ru | Engelus
[20:59] <numberi> i've already talked to ypu that it's not working!
[20:59] <ign0ramus> numberi: what is your local ip?
[20:59] <numberi> <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:59] <psycose> hello
[21:00] <gael> bonsoir tout le monde
[21:00] <ign0ramus> numberi: ok, so forward whatever port(s) you want in your router on that ip... that's all there is to it.
[21:01] <numberi> i said i've done this
[21:01] <ign0ramus> numberi: then you've forwarded those ports...
[21:02] <ign0ramus> numberi: and you've configured your BT client to listen on those ports?
[21:02] <Trijntje> I can only type on my laptop with KDE in failsafe/textonly mode, not on normal desktop. What can i do to figure out whats wrong?
[21:03] <carib909> Running Kubuntu 804 with KDE4 USB ports not being recognized with flash drive...
[21:05] <gael> hi did anyone manage to install the new shiretoko (firefox 3.1 beta)?
[21:05] <carib909> Can anyone help with USB issues?
[21:05] <numberi> it's problem with kubuntu, not router, iptables, ufw turned off
[21:06] <numberi> not bt clients, i used azures, ktorrent, utorrent
[21:06] <numberi> all was working in mandriva
[21:08] <Trijntje> I just switched form gnome to KDE on my laptop, but now i can only type in failsave mode. Can anyone help?
[21:12] <numberi> how can i switch from kde 4 to kde 3.5?
[21:13] <gael> trijntje working on it
[21:15] <gael> trijntje .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:15] <carib909> Anyone can elp with USB issues?
[21:16] <Trijntje> gael: gdm is damaged or not installed, ill try apt-get install
[21:17] <ign0ramus> carib909: you can find better help in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:17] <Trijntje> gael: the gnome display manager under KDE?
[21:17] <gael> get rid of kde first if not.. you get back into it
[21:18] <gael> can you??
[21:19] <Trijntje> i'm in KDE failsafe now gael. I removed gnome when the keyboard still worked, but i can still type in failsafe
[21:20] <gael> use synaptic to uninstall all kde composants
[21:20] <gael> hold on hold on
[21:20] <Trijntje> gael, than i wont have anything left, i removed all gnome programs
[21:21] <gael> but you still have your terminal
[21:21] <ign0ramus> Trijntje: could this have anything to do with your graphics card?  Are you automatically logged into failsafe mode?
[21:21] <numberi> numberi@numberi-laptop:~$ sudo ufw enable
[21:21] <numberi> ERROR: /etc/default/ufw is world writable!
[21:21] <numberi> what is it mean?
[21:22] <gael> no
[21:23] <Bikerbob> anyone help me configure X from command line?
[21:23] <Trijntje> ign0ramus: no, i did that myself, i can log in normaly but then i cant type. But i can use Ctrl Alt F1 to go to text mode
[21:23] <Trijntje> (when i log in normally)
[21:23] <andriijas> how do i logout a logged in user in kde via ssh?
[21:25] <gael> u getting back into gnome
[21:25] <carles> wtf
[21:26] <Trijntje> gael: why go back to gnome? cant i fix it from kubuntu?
[21:26] <sobczyk> Bikerbob: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:26] <gael> rc-update add gdm default
[21:26] <gael> in terminal
[21:29] <Bikerbob> is there another way sobczyk?
[21:29] <Bikerbob> no Xconfig or anything?
[21:30] <Trijntje> gael, what will that do? i dont understand what you are trying to do
[21:30] <Bikerbob> the dpkg did not work for me
[21:30] <sobczyk> Bikerbob: why it did not work?
[21:31] <Bikerbob> its asking for pci addressing of the video.. I cant figure that out.
[21:31] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: use what it gives to you
[21:31] <Bikerbob> my lspci gives different output than its looking for..
[21:31] <gael> it will reinstall gnome so that you can boot onto it
[21:31] <Bikerbob> I end up with black dead screen and a locked up install
[21:32] <gael> after a reboot
[21:32] <rysiek|pl> guys, after Hardy installation Restricted Drivers Manager used to pop-up if any such drivers were needed
[21:32] <gael> it has nothing to do with your graphicscard that's for sure
[21:33] <rysiek|pl> I didn't get one this time, and I can't find it anywhere in the menu
[21:33] <Bikerbob> what happened to pick your video card.. pick your monitor.. and start?
[21:33] <rysiek|pl> am I missing anything?
[21:33] <Trijntje> gael: i know its not my grapicscard. But i can already boot into kde failsafe, so i should be able to fix it form kde right?
[21:33] <Trijntje> this whatever keybord thing
[21:33] <Tm_T> gael: untrue
[21:34] <ign0ramus> Trijntje: this may help http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=5098966
[21:34] <Bikerbob> no other way to configure X?
[21:34] <sobczyk> Bikerbob: you can try figure out what is wrong by looking at logs
[21:35] <sobczyk>  /var/log/Xorg.*
[21:35] <ign0ramus> rysiek|pl: it's under System > Hardware Drivers Manager
[21:35] <Bikerbob> have done that...
[21:35] <rysiek|pl> ign0ramus: ah, thanks
[21:35] <ign0ramus> np :)
[21:36] <gael> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-120928.html
[21:36] <Bikerbob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=920467
[21:36] <Bikerbob> my logs are posted there
[21:37] <Bikerbob> so the dpkg thing is the ONLY WAY TO change an X configuration from cli now?
[21:37] <Dabz> I don't know a other way :/
[21:37] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: no, you can always edit xorg.conf directly
[21:38] <ign0ramus> Bikerbob: you don't have the correct display driver installed?
[21:39] <Bikerbob> nope
[21:39] <sobczyk> why is the damn board restricting access to files only for registered users, not everyone wans to register just to see some attachement...
[21:39] <Tm_T> gael: I have no idea what you're trying to do
[21:39] <ign0ramus> Bikerbob: have you tried the correct driver, or at least using Envy?
[21:39] <Tm_T> sobczyk: won't harm to register (;)
[21:39] <Bikerbob> I am not even sure if the correct driver is on the machine
[21:39] <Bikerbob> what is Envy?
[21:39] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: unsupported script to install newest driver
[21:39] <sobczyk> I think envy wont handle his card
[21:39] <ign0ramus> Bikerbob: an automated script to install ATI/Nvidia drivers
[21:39] <Tm_T> yes, unsupported
[21:40] <Dabz> but this script is very usefull
[21:40] <ign0ramus> Bikerbob: i would recommend downloading the proper drivers from Nvidia directly, though
[21:40] <Tm_T> Dabz: to break systems, yes
[21:40] <Tm_T> ign0ramus: please don't
[21:40] <ign0ramus> Tm_T: don't what?
[21:40] <Tm_T> ign0ramus: recommend that in here
[21:41] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: please do following: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:41] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: and paste results to pastebin
[21:41] <Tm_T> !paste | Bikerbob
[21:41] <Dabz> Tm_T: I ve a radeon HD3650n there is no driver for linux :/
[21:41] <ign0ramus> Tm_T: o_O  is there some licensing issue i'm unaware of getting drivers from the source?
[21:41] <Tm_T> ign0ramus: no, but it's unsupported
[21:42] <ign0ramus> Tm_T: so there is a supported way to install his proper drivers?
[21:42] <Bikerbob> different machine totally Tm_T  would take me 15mins to get it to you
[21:42] <Tm_T> ign0ramus: we don't know yet what are his proper drivers, do we?
[21:42] <sobczyk> Dabz: drivers from ati.com aren't working?
[21:42] <Bikerbob> that log is at the forum I posted
[21:42] <Dabz> fck I can't go on my other hard disk...
[21:42] <Bikerbob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=920467
[21:43] <Dabz> no, they don't worl :/
[21:43] <Tm_T> Dabz: no cursing
[21:43] <ign0ramus> Tm_T: he's got a 9600 G3400
[21:43] <Dabz> klauncher said unknown protocole
[21:43] <Tm_T> ign0ramus: mmmm, ati that is?
[21:43] <icelab> konqueror 3.5 do not work whit youtube what i heve to do?
[21:44] <Tm_T> !ati | Bikerbob
[21:44] <ign0ramus> Tm_T: i just checked his post on the Forums.  Yep, that's what it looks like.
[21:44] <Bikerbob> guys we are talking about an ATI mach64 GT card.. like 12 years old
[21:44] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: ah, that one
[21:45] <Dabz> icelab: Konkoror don't work with deezer too, download Firefox if u want to solve this problem
[21:45] <Bikerbob> I use a program called BootX to start up the machine.
[21:45] <Bikerbob> problem was I did not install with a desktop.. I installed that after.. so I never did an X config.
[21:46] <Bikerbob> now I cant start X because it is not configured.
[21:46] <icelab> i have firefox and netscape installed too, but i want the konqui works
[21:46] <Bikerbob> when I do the reconfigure.. it asks for the pci address.. but the format it wants it.. is not what my lspci gives out.
[21:46] <sobczyk> afaik for flash in koqueror nsplugins was needed
[21:47] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: there's something in there already?
[21:47] <Dabz> icelab may u ll find a solution on the forum :/
[21:47] <Dabz> perhaps*
[21:47] <Bikerbob> the Xorg.conf? because I have tried to run X.. so its made up default configs.. but you will also see it says in the logs that it cannot find the configure file.
[21:47] <icelab> i have search the solutin but find nothing easy
[21:49] <Trijntje> ign0ramus: thnx, ik probeer dat nu
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Bikerbob: have you tried any of the options provided when you try to reconfigure?
[21:49] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: in dpkg-configure app thingy
[21:49] <sava> прив
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Trijntje: i don't speak Dutch.. did it work for you?
[21:49] <Bikerbob> yeah.. I use the default values.. but it does not work.. I get black death
[21:49] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: er?
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Bikerbob: what graphics options do you get?
[21:49] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: you have Kubuntu, do you?
[21:50] <Bikerbob> yes
[21:50] <carutsu> hello everyone, I need to instal KDE trunk, compilling kdebase I got that X11_Xscreensaver_LIB is not set, the problem is I'm not sure what package should I install since I cannot see any xscreensaver-dev or similar
[21:50] <Trijntje> ign0ramus: shit, haha, sorry, i'm trying it now
[21:50] <ign0ramus> Trijntje: cool.  I'll learn one day... :)
[21:50] <Bikerbob> maybe we are not refering to the same options.. which do you mean Tm_T ?
[21:51] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: I mean, you don't have X...
[21:51] <Tm_T> ag, you didn't have X...
[21:51] <Tm_T> so how did you install Kubuntu?
[21:51] <Firefishe> Where can I find a virgin ubuntu sources.list ?  I'm changing from one distro to another.
[21:51] <Bikerbob> oh I did an apt-get Kubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <Trijntje> ign0ramus: it didnt work :(
[21:52] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: after what?
[21:52] <ign0ramus> Firefishe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=739119
[21:52] <Bikerbob> after the initial install
[21:52] <ign0ramus> Trijntje: hmmm... i don't really know. :/
[21:52] <Firefishe> thank ign0ramus
[21:52] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: and that happened how?
[21:52] <Bikerbob> dont understand? you mean how did the desktop install go?
[21:52] <Tm_T> ign0ramus|afk: no
[21:53] <Tm_T> Bikerbob: no, how you did install it initially
[21:53] <Bikerbob> oh 804 alt install CD
[21:53] <Tm_T> I see
[21:53] <Bikerbob> for PPC
[21:53] <gael> trijntje: nog steeds niks dus? nothing yet?
[21:54] <Bikerbob> I am not able to use a graphic installer for this machine
[21:54] <Bikerbob> but the install went fine.. the desktop install went fine and checks fine.. I just need to get X configured.
[21:55] <Bikerbob> the driver I need to use I think is ATY
[21:55] <Trijntje> gael: no, but i just found out that the 'virtual keyboard' also doesnt work. And i think the window manager is also broken
[21:55] <Bikerbob> the monitor is a good old 19" ctr
[21:55] <Bikerbob> crt
[21:55] <Bikerbob> so it should not be all that hard..
[21:55] <Bikerbob> but its asking for hardware level details I dont know how to give hwen I run that reconfigure.
[21:56] <Bikerbob> there used to be an X configure that asked for the keyboard, the monitor type.. said I think its this driver? you chose the correct one.. and boom you were in X.. what happened to that?
[21:58] <Bikerbob> well I have to go.. day is done.. I will try again tomorrow.
[22:00] <qualmei> hallo! who can help me with my wireless connection?
[22:01] <qualmei> I'm using KDE 3.5
[22:02] <atilla> hi guys I am having problem with wireless. I installed 8.04.1 then installed the restricted drivers but I cant get any networks any ideas
[22:04] <Dabz> Try to install ndiswrapper for ur wireless card
[22:05] <atilla> mmm that's a challenge I have never get that working but I will give it a shot again :))
[22:05] <qualmei> my wireless card works, it's detecting my network but I'm not sure how to connect
[22:05] <Dabz> u ve to enter the essid
[22:05] <qualmei> did that
[22:05] <qualmei> wait
[22:05] <Dabz> what say iwconfig?
[22:06] <qualmei> is essid the same as the broadcast ssid?
[22:06] <Dabz> yep
[22:06] <qualmei> then yeah
[22:06] <Trijntje> ign0ramus, gael: i fixed it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Even the window decorator functions now. Thnx for the help!
[22:06] <ign0ramus|afk> atilla: are you booting into the generic kernel
[22:06] <ign0ramus|afk> Trijntje: glad to see it it work
[22:06] <atilla> yep
[22:07] <gael> sorry for getting u messed up
[22:08] <ign0ramus|afk> atilla: what kind of wireless card are you using?
[22:08] <Trijntje> gael: i was already messed up ;) But it works now, so all is well
[22:08] <atilla> ign0ramus|afk: I did a fresh install today but still the same. I checked my installation media it was ok
[22:09] <atilla> ign0ramus|afk: broadcom bcm4318
[22:09] <qualmei> so, um, what's the normal routine for connecting to a wep protected wlan connection?
[22:09] <ign0ramus> atilla: there have been a lot of people with problems with that card.  you may want to go the Ndiswrapper route...
[22:10] <atilla> ign0ramus:can  you give me a solid link to get ndiswrapper working. because I never could get it work properly
[22:11] <Schuenemann> hey, does anyone know the name of a package that contains some card games (solitaire, freecell, spider, etc)? I had it installed in gutsy but don't remember the name
[22:11] <ign0ramus> atilla: maybe you don't need it after all... see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762984
[22:12] <qualmei> >:
[22:21] <icelab> schuenemann use add program in kmenu' and search in game option gnome
[22:22] <Schuenemann> icelab, there are too many... =(
[22:22] <Schuenemann> but I think it was KDE's.
[22:23] <icelab> wait just a moment please
[22:27] <qualmei> when i use kwifimanager it lists my router, now how do i connect to it?
[22:28] <icelab> click on games then option gnome near the searc bar click on aisle riot solitarie it's enought
[22:32] <icelab> schuenemann, go on kmenu, use add/remove programs,click on games, then choose gnome option near a searc bar the click on aisleriot solitarie, that's enought
[22:34] <Schuenemann> icelab, that doesn't seem to be it
[22:35] <icelab> sorry i have installed that when i passed to kde to gnome
[22:35] <icelab> sorry from gnome
[22:36] <Schuenemann> I think I found it, let me test
[22:37] <Schuenemann> icelab, yay
[22:37] <Schuenemann> it's kpat, which depends on kdegames-card-data
[22:38] <icelab> ok i'll try
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> patience :)  aisleriot's gotten a lot better, but patience is still the best
[22:39] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido, that one has a lot of other games as I saw... robots and such
[22:41] <andriijas> whats wrong when the sound keeps playing in the laptop speakers even if i connect earphone?
[22:48] <dummkopf_jenkins> so, I create a shortcut to Konsole on my taskbar? And it seems to want to magically change to a bash shortcut after rebooting, or just randomly.
[22:49] <dummkopf_jenkins> I guess you would call it zee Quicklauncher?
[22:50] <favro> dummkopf_jenkins: whay was the command you gave the launcher to use?
[22:51] <dummkopf_jenkins> favro, I pointed it to Konsole, I run KDE 3/5/8.
[22:51] <dummkopf_jenkins> but command of application I pointed it too is "konsole"
[22:51] <Vermux> cant connect to the network for some reason, the interface wont be up. Who can help?
[22:52] <dummkopf_jenkins> favro, it appears that I have 2 konsoles
[22:52] <favro> that should be ok - sometimes full path helps... - try /usr/bin/konsole
[22:52] <favro> ohh
[22:52] <dummkopf_jenkins> one is bash when started and the other is konsole when started
[22:52] <dummkopf_jenkins> I removed gnome and went with KDE so maybe it is remenant of gnome?
[22:53] <favro> in konsole   which konsole   will tell the one that is used
[22:53] <favro> !purekde | dummkopf_jenkins
[22:53] <dummkopf_jenkins> I followed the purekde document entirely with no issues
[22:53] <favro> k :)
[22:54] <dummkopf_jenkins> when I click the konsole shortcut I have on my quicklauncher it opens a terminal with "bash" in it, if I go to Help it says stuff about "Konsole help" etc.
[22:54] <dummkopf_jenkins> but if I choose the other Konsole in my menu it says "Konsole" at the top and when clicking Help it says things about "Konsole" as well
[22:54] <Daisuke_Ido> dummkopf_jenkins: did you install kde 4 at any point?
[22:55] <Daisuke_Ido> even if you're not using it
[22:55] <dummkopf_jenkins> Daisuke_Ido, yes, and quickly removed it lol
[22:55] <Daisuke_Ido> could still have the kde4 konsole
[22:55] <dummkopf_jenkins> ahh
[22:55] <dummkopf_jenkins> is it possible to remove the one I don't like?
[22:56] <favro> try the   which konsole   command and see where the two konsoles are
[22:56] <favro> one should be /usr/bin/konsole
[22:57] <dummkopf_jenkins> lol both are /usr/bin/konsole
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> two entries pointing to the same executable
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> try which konsole-kde4
[22:58] <dummkopf_jenkins> Daisuke_Ido, that returned nothing
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> then it's just two duplicate entries
[22:59] <dummkopf_jenkins> yeah, it's strange. On the menu under "Utilities" I have a "Terminal", if I go to "System" I have 2 entries for "Konsole" one of which has the console icon and the other has a blank paper icon look too it
[23:00] <dummkopf_jenkins> if I click the "Terminal" from "Utilities" it does nothing
[23:00] <dummkopf_jenkins> as the command for it is "gnome-terminal"
[23:01] <dummkopf_jenkins> I just deleted that one
[23:01] <dummkopf_jenkins> found the problem
[23:01] <dummkopf_jenkins> :)
[23:01] <Daisuke_Ido> the blank paper one was probably the kde4 verison, you can remove that one
[23:01] <dummkopf_jenkins> yeah it was, I just deleted it from zee menu :D
[23:01] <favro> dummkopf_jenkins: I would do   kdesu konqueor /usr/bin   then click each konsole so it opens - then delete the one you don't want
[23:02] <dummkopf_jenkins> now if I can make the konsole transparent heh would make things easier as I read websites trying out MySQL queries :D
[23:03] <dummkopf_jenkins> it seems to only be transparent if I have all windows minimized save the konsole/desktop background
[23:03] <favro> I use eterm for transparency
[23:04] <dummkopf_jenkins> hmm I shall look into that :D
[23:05] <dummkopf_jenkins> does compiz-fusion work with kde?
[23:05] <favro> !compiz
[23:06] <favro> dummkopf_jenkins: yep
[23:06] <dummkopf_jenkins> nice, I had it installed when I was using gnome so it's installed already :)
[23:07] <dummkopf_jenkins> hmm, I have no "Desktop Effects" in that menu
[23:11] <dummkopf_jenkins> is KDE4 better than 3.5.8? I tried it but it seemed to run at a snails pace and I didn't like the graphical changes (everything was sooooo HUGE!) lol
[23:11] <micheal> hi
[23:19] <hixxx> hoi, just switched to Konversation client. is there a way to detach chatwindows? or switch to a non-tabbed view at all?
[23:22] <LeeJunFan> hixxx: there's a way to switch to non-tabbed but I don't think you can detatch. That would be nice.
[23:22] <olskolirc> hey guys.  how to i dot my kmix so that I can record from my sound card please
[23:24] <LeeJunFan> hixxx: go to settings, and on tabs set placement to left.
[23:24] <LeeJunFan> olskolirc: you have to select capture and capture sources like mic.
[23:24] <hixxx> LeeJunFan: thank you. (digging into setting :) )
[23:27] <hixxx> Not exactly what i looked for. want to open more than just one chan same time :) thank you tho
[23:28] <LeeJunFan> hixxx: yeah, for that you'll need another client. maybe xchat can do that? or kvirc if that's still in development.
[23:29] <hixxx> Yes, back to xchat :)
[23:29] <hixxx> native kde-app wd've been nice
[23:35] <olskolirc> ok LeeJunFan thanks
[23:39] <pedro__> alguem está aqui?
[23:39] <pedro__> portugueses nao?
[23:47] <anom01y> anyone know how to get  audacity to record the output of mplayer ?
[23:48] <Denise> oh
[23:49] <anom01y> no matter what options I select, or volume slides I turn up I can only get audacity to record microphone input
[23:49] <anom01y> I guess it would be a kmix thing