[18:53] <ducasse> ubuntu866: i'm sure make is working fine, my point is you are very likely solving this problem the wrong way.
[18:53] <YankDownUnder> paranoidabhi: Didn't Ubuntu "find" your printer/scanner after you plugged them in? In most instances, it does so automatically...
[18:53] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, did you install sane ?
[18:53] <paranoidabhi> YankDownUnder, no it didn't
[18:53] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, and what panasonic printer/scanner is this?
[18:53] <tables> how do i check if my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[18:54] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, change line 52 to /usr/lib/sane
[18:54] <_adb> tables: uname -a
[18:54] <OerHeks> tables, systemsettings > details
[18:54] <tables> thx u
[18:54] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, panasonic kx-mb1500 http://panasonicdriver.net/panasonic-kx-mb1500-drivers/
[18:55] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, $ ls /usr/bin | grep sane sane-find-scanner
[18:56] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, is there no such path as usr/bin/sane as in the script.
[18:56] <tables> what package is 'deb' a part of?
[18:57] <tables> nevermind found it
[18:57] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, I used locate sane | grep lib, found it /usr/lib/ and also in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane
[18:59] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, I also seem to have /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/ but not the former one.
[18:59] <paranoidabhi> which one should i put? pavlos
[18:59] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, try /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane and see if the script runs
[19:00] <ubuntu866> ducasse: i had the same make problem on rapsbery pi i dont remember how i got around it
[19:01] <OerHeks> !mainline
[19:01] <ducasse> ubuntu866: ok, then we start at the beginning :) why exactly do you need a specific version of the ethernet driver, and which driver is this?
[19:03] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, install successfully(atleast that's what the script says). But still doesn't work
[19:03] <paranoidabhi> Do need to restart after install a scanner in linux?
[19:03] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, just logout/login
[19:03] <Fleuv> Hello, is it possible to undelete folders / directories what have been deleted permanently (shift + delete and accept confirmation) via the Files app.
[19:04] <ubuntu866> ducasse: i have r8169 it goes slow and i need r8168 but its only supported on kernel 3.x 2.4 2.6 so im going to 3.x so i can install the driver
[19:05] <winsen>  how to know if wicd or NM is working or not?
[19:05] <mahdi_ja> today i install ubuntu 16.04 lts and wine.
[19:05] <ducasse> ubuntu866: in that case the best thing you can do is most likely to use a mainline kernel with a version that has that driver.
[19:05] <tgm4883> !undelete | Fleuv
[19:05] <mahdi_ja> but i can not run freegate with wine in it
[19:05] <Eightynine> Hi. I removed Linux partitions and reinstalled Windows bootloader but it failed to boot because of Grub. I tried repair it using mbr package and now Windows is trying to boot and then says that it can't load winload.exe I tried to repair bootloader using Boot-Repair under Linux by following your instructions but that problem remained.
[19:06] <tgm4883> Eightynine: that sounds like a question for ##windows
[19:06] <Fleuv> tgm4883, i tried testdisk but all i get is the first layer of files and folders.
[19:07] <tgm4883> Fleuv: did you try any of the other tools, or even bother reading that page?
[19:07] <Eightynine> Thank you. Didn't even know it exists.
[19:08] <A1Recon> Can't connect to PPTP VPN for some reason. Can someone help?
[19:08] <Fleuv> tgm4883, no which one do you recommend? Yes I'm aware of that page.
[19:09] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, you may have to restart, seems it needs to start a background daemon (panasoniclpd)
[19:10] <tgm4883> Fleuv: Me? I wouldn't be able to recommend any of them since I haven't had the need to use them. However, I would suggest using a tool right for the job (which would be for recovering individual files, not a partition)
[19:12] <Bashing-om> Fleuv: Have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ?
[19:12] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: lol, I just linked that
[19:14] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: Well .. I should read up I quess prior to hitting that enter key :)
[19:22] <Sven_vB> can i detect by PID whether that process is running in a chroot, and if so, which path?
[19:23] <szb> Hello guys & girls! I'm on 16.04 and I have a question that I wasn't able to find an answer for: Is it possible to disable the previewing/thumbnailing for files when they are displayed in the dash? I would rather just see an icon!
[19:23] <szb> I have tried disabling all thumbnailing with dconf-editor, but that doesn't stop the dash from doing it! Plus it completely disables my sound output, for some reason!
[19:24] <Sven_vB> or can i (from the outside) get a list of all chroots currently active?
[19:28] <pavlos> szb, does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/206883/how-to-prevent-files-from-being-shown-in-unity-dash
[19:29] <A1Recon> So I'm trying to access PPTP VPN provided by vpnbook. I enter all the details (gateway, id and password), go to advanced > enable all the auth protocols, Select "Use MPEE Encryption", save. When I try to connect, the VPN fails
[19:30] <milesg> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE, I want to connect to WiFi, but I can seem to only connect to ethernet. I did not have this problem with normal Ubuntu.
[19:30] <szb> pavlos, I think if I did that I wouldn't be able to search for files in the dash at all, would I? I want the files to appear, just without a preview image!
[19:31] <szb> milesg, you should ask over at #ubuntu-mate :)
[19:31] <milesg> oh
[19:32] <pavlos> szb, well, you could remove that package, logout/login, if it does not work re-install it
[19:32] <szb> pavlos, you're right, thx, i will keep that in mind!
[19:33] <pavlos> milesg, do you have any addl drivers in Software & Updates?
[19:38] <vicky> hi
[19:39] <vicky> hello
[19:39] <szb> hello vicky, what's up
[19:40] <vicky> good
[19:40] <szb> milesg, if you haven't already, you might want to consider upgrading to 16.04.1. -- from my experience this solved a lot of the network issues that I had!
[19:41] <idzireit> anyone available to help with problem using eclipse on 14.04
[19:45] <OerHeks> idzireit, ask wait and see ..
[19:50] <idzireit> Hi everyone. New to IRC.  Was hoping to use this to help solve an issues with eclipse on ubuntu 14.04
[19:52] <lordcirth> !ask | idzireit
[19:52] <idzireit> eclipse is installed but compiling simple java hello world comes back with system critical error
[19:53] <idzireit> I figure it is not finding the javac
[19:53] <jatt> idzireit: pastebin the error or screenshot
[19:53] <idzireit> k
[19:54] <stanton> hey ctjctj, i got that ubuntu off spring working on the physical laptop. i'm also in on offtopic chan.
[19:55] <idzireit> as I said I am new.  how to post the screenshot I just took?
[19:55] <logic1> hellop
[19:56] <idzireit> hi logic
[19:56] <OerHeks> idzireit, try imgur.com
[19:56] <logic1> does anyone know any good guides for weechat?
[19:57] <idzireit> DerHeks maybe I should clarify.... I am totally new to IRC
[19:57] <logic1> I am new as well..shocked by lack of google support
[19:57] <johnc4510> logic1: https://weechat.org/doc/
[19:58] <FatalNIX> Why am I still here
[19:58] <ducasse> logic1: the user guide for weechat is excellent
[19:58] <FatalNIX> except that weechat is a pos to muck with
[19:59] <aaaavvv> WeeChat better than HexChat?
[19:59] <FatalNIX> yes
[19:59] <szb> idzireit, a nice registration-free image uploader is https://postimage.org
[19:59] <FatalNIX> irssi > weechat > hexchat :P
[19:59]  * johnc4510 nods to FatalNIX
[19:59] <FatalNIX> weechat is great it's just a bit convoluted and if you like that that's cool too
[19:59] <aaaavvv> thx for the tip
[20:00] <logic1> can i set up a lan chat using weechat?
[20:00] <FatalNIX> Probably, may have to scritp it in, I use znc as a bouncer which has "partyline" mode
[20:00] <FatalNIX> so I don't need any lan chat stuff
[20:00] <CyberDems> what does it take for udev to recognize that it's configured? i'm booting on an arm device from u-boot, and get "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured.". the initrd was generated with update-initramfs while chrooted into ubuntu on the arm kernel
[20:01] <aaaavvv> irssi terminal based or gui?
[20:01] <sam___> Ter
[20:01] <FatalNIX> irssi is terminal based. so isn't wee chat but weechat does have some gui frontends
[20:01] <aaaavvv> Bah...might as well use BitchX
[20:01] <Bashing-om> aaaavvv: irssi is terminal .
[20:01] <FatalNIX> bitchx is .. serioualy outdated.. though I heard somebody picked it back up again
[20:02] <FatalNIX> I find irssi much easier to deal with than BitchX, still
[20:02] <FatalNIX> and irssi's Perl scripting capabilities are really nice
[20:02] <aaaavvv> whats the best gui client?
[20:02] <logic1> gnome-twitch ..how come i never knew about this
[20:03] <k1l_> aaaavvv: well, better test them on your own
[20:03] <OerHeks> aaaavvv, there is no single best, try some and see what you like
[20:03] <FatalNIX> aaaavvv: weechat does have a gui frontend, I've never used it. However, hexchat works quite well and doesn't seem to have a lot of serious security exploits often like xchat did
[20:03] <OerHeks> polling is a waste of time, experience yourself
[20:03] <avioni> i guess i'll stick to hexchat
[20:03] <FatalNIX> Deruyter: I thought you said googling for a minute lololol
[20:04] <FatalNIX> avioni: explore :)
[20:04] <FatalNIX> heck you could use a gui frontend somebody made for ircii
[20:04] <FatalNIX> :D
[20:04] <FatalNIX> ircii was very popular back in the day
[20:05] <avioni> yes i remember so was ircle
[20:05] <FatalNIX> I don't hear anyone using it anymore. I'm sure iot's very dated
[20:05] <FatalNIX> oh yes ircle
[20:05] <FatalNIX> some people still usr mirc
[20:05] <FatalNIX> like wut
[20:05] <FatalNIX> mirc was always a horror show
[20:05] <FatalNIX> MDI interfaces for IRC? wtf
[20:05] <OerHeks> ..
[20:05] <logic1> hmm
[20:05] <idzireit> screenshot image link https://postimg.org/image/c1a64wbdr/
[20:06] <OerHeks> idzireit, do you have java jdk installed, or just the jre?
[20:06] <jatt> it's a syntax error
[20:06] <jatt> must be System not system
[20:06] <OerHeks> oh, good find jatt
[20:06] <idzireit> i have open-jdk7-jdk inistalled
[20:07] <Ice_Strike> !pb
[20:08] <Ice_Strike> See http://paste.ubuntu.com/23052617/ - Server Management website take control of the server. So for example I press save button which will then update the configuration on Linux Server. It logged onto server and then update a config file.How do I find out what it was doing to update a file and what command it was using?
[20:08] <Ice_Strike> It is not available in bash_history and history command
[20:09] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: how did you update that config file?
[20:10] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Via admin panel (website).
[20:10] <k1l_> i guess you need to look if admin panel supports such logs
[20:11] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ There is no such log. My question is is it possible to find out what the command was executed to edit the config file?
[20:11] <Ice_Strike> I can see auth.log it logged into server when I press save on the website.
[20:14] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: i doubt if that admin panel doesnt provide such logs
[20:15] <ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm having the hardest trouble finding the GNU `info` command. What package is supposed to contain that?
[20:15] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Admin Panel is not on the same server
[20:15] <ELLIOTTCABLE> (Precise LTS, 12.04)
[20:15] <Ice_Strike> It is hosted on the cloud which i don't have access.
[20:15] <ELLIOTTCABLE> I've been digging through http://packages.ubuntu.com, but jesus, is it hard to search for the word ‘info’, lol.
[20:16] <idzireit> for screenshot of error compiling java using eclipse on ubuntu 14 http://imgur.com/gallery/Dxz3J
[20:16] <k1l_> ELLIOTTCABLE: that should be in the bash, iirc
[20:16] <OerHeks> idzireit, you have been answered > jatt
[20:16] <idzireit> when and by whom
[20:17] <OerHeks> by jjatt, scroll back please
[20:17] <ELLIOTTCABLE> k1l_: lolwat, the *bash* package installs info? o_O
[20:17] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Admin Panel is not on the same server. They are seperate which I don't have access.
[20:18] <idzireit> Duh on me.  thx
[20:18] <Ice_Strike> I allow Admin panel to access to my server by giving ssh key.
[20:18] <V7> Trouble: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333838
[20:18] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: i dont know. i guess the admin panel guys should know
[20:18] <CyberDems> how does udev check to see if it's been configured? booting ubuntu on armv7 from u-boot with initramfs made in chroot. it works fine except that I see "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured." before systemd loads the system, or if I try udevadm trigger when logged on.  network interfaces and video accelleration are not working due to this
[20:18] <OerHeks> V7, likely a theme not working well
[20:19] <V7> But ... was great
[20:20] <k1l_> !info info | ELLIOTTCABLE
[20:20] <ca__> hi@all
[20:20] <DoubleAspergers> I don't understand olympic gymnastics....
[20:21] <DoubleAspergers> Since when is spreading your legs considered a respectable way to make a living?
[20:22] <avioni> is smuxi > hexchat?
[20:22] <realies> I dont seem to find enough info for dual booting on macbook pro
[20:22] <momken> hello
[20:22] <Ice_Strike> k1l_  Hmm ok. I can see it logged in to SSH - I am trying to find a way to log what has been executing by user
[20:22] <realies> actually, im after triple booting (got bootcam)
[20:22] <realies> p
[20:23] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | realies
[20:23] <momken> I have recently bought a second hand laptop: HP Elitebook 8470p
[20:23] <Elec_A> I have a ".a" file and when I view inside of this file with "ar" tool, I get several ".o" files. Is it possible to convert these to ".so" ?
[20:23] <momken> I have boot ubuntu 14.04 on it
[20:24] <realies> ubottu, doesn't have any info for MacBookPro11,3
[20:24] <realies> oh :(
[20:24] <momken> everything works fine except: brightness control
[20:24] <momken> what should I do?
[20:24] <momken> please help
[20:24] <reni> hi guys
[20:24] <realies> Bashing-om, that was towards you haha
[20:25] <momken> When ubuntu boots up the brightness goes up to the max level, even if I have lowered it to minimum while in bios
[20:25] <Bashing-om> realies: Sorry .. that is the extent of my Mac expertise .
[20:25] <realies> ok
[20:25] <reni> i have a big problem with the broadcom wifi on my laptop. It has been disabled after the last update under 16.04
[20:26] <danny_> So steam is cluttering up my home folder, is it recommended to make a subfolder in my home that acts as my real home folder?
[20:26] <momken> The brightness buttons are recognized and ubuntu shows a bar indicating the brightness level, but actually the brightness doesn't change at all
[20:26] <momken> I am become blind. It is very bright
[20:26] <tgm4883> danny_: steam shouldn't be cluttering up your home folder
[20:26] <idoko> reni: do you have any 16.04 image around?
[20:26] <Bashing-om> !bcm | reni re-install the driver ? :
[20:26] <bekks> danny_: steam stores data under /home/user/.steam/ - so it isnt cluttering up.
[20:27] <danny_> tgm4883, shouldn't be, is.  Some games are making folder in ~/Documents and it created a ~/Steam folder bekks
[20:27] <reni> ok thx i will try it
[20:28] <momken> This model of HP EliteBook 8470p has only intel graphics and doesn't have AMD gpu, so everything should be fine, but it isn't
[20:28] <tgm4883> danny_: ok but you're asking if it's recommended about something that is basically cosmetic?
[20:28] <danny_> tgm4883, ? so it won't cause problems?
[20:28] <tgm4883> danny_: why would it cause problems?
[20:29] <danny_> tgm4883, I don't know, thats why I'm asking
[20:29] <tgm4883> danny_: but doesn't that seem a bit crazy? Asking if random stuff is going to cause problems?
[20:29] <jatt> can you adjust the brightness with the brightness indicator?
[20:29] <danny_> tgm4883, Its stopped me from breaking things before
[20:30] <tgm4883> danny_: I find that a bit dubious, but OK
[20:30] <ikonia> how is a single directory "cluttering" everything
[20:30] <OerHeks> danny_, steam makes a perfect folder which does not clutter your /home/, and you ask if you need to make one...
[20:30] <V7> Solved
[20:30] <ikonia> creating a sub folder is poitnless as nothing will look there - everything else will look in $home
[20:31] <_adb> momken: your keyboard controls for brightness aren't working? do you have software controls?
[20:31] <danny_> OerHeks, Perfect? what? Steam made a folder for logs in ~/Steam and Various games are cluttering ~/Documents
[20:31] <ikonia> games should not be in documents
[20:32] <ikonia> it's normally all held in in the steam directory
[20:32] <OerHeks> that is new to me..
[20:32] <bekks> danny_: none of my games store stuff outside the steam folders. Especially not in Documents.
[20:32] <danny_> ikonia, Tell that to Shadowrun Dragonfall
[20:32] <OerHeks> downloaded manually?? illegal ?
[20:32] <ikonia> it seems unlikley steam would put just "some" games elsewhere
[20:32] <momken> _adb, the keyboard controls seem to work but as they are detected all. But they can't affect brightness at all
[20:32] <ikonia> it's more likley you/something else have put those games there
[20:32] <ikonia> or you configured steam to do that, then changed the config later
[20:33] <momken> _adb, what do you mean by software controls?
[20:33] <tgm4883> ikonia: steam games can create folders outside of the steam dir
[20:33] <danny_> OerHeks, perfectly legally bought through steam, only nonstandard thing is I made a steam game library in ~/games/SteamLibrary
[20:33] <ikonia> tgm4883: I've seen it for specific configs, eg: key mappings
[20:33] <ikonia> never the actual games
[20:33] <tgm4883> ikonia: correct, it's not actual games. But games can store their configs/saves/etc there
[20:34] <ikonia> thats harly a mess is it
[20:34] <_adb> momken: so you can detect the keypress, but it doesn't change the brightness?
[20:34] <codex__> Who speak spanish?
[20:34] <jatt> !es
[20:34] <danny_> ikonia, Yeah, its not the actual game files, it's actually empty but it seems to be where shadowrun will put downloaded content if I get any
[20:34] <charlie__> yo hablo espanol
[20:34] <codex__> !es
[20:34] <ikonia> danny_: honeslty - I think you're creating a problem out of nothing, and you'll end up making your home direcotry not really usable by you
[20:35] <k1l_> codex__: see the bots message
[20:35] <tgm4883> ikonia: while I agree with you that it's not something to worry about, I could see how it could look a bit cluttered if a bunch of games did it
[20:35] <pavlos> !es | charlie__
[20:35] <tgm4883> fortunately, I've not seen any games create a non-hidden folder outside of the steam dir
[20:35] <ikonia> all tidy directories, doesn't seem a problem, it's going to be more a problem when you have $home/realhome - and every app uses $home still, but you try to force it to $home/realhome
[20:35] <danny_> ikonia, Well, I wanted to get rid of the Documents folder entirely to clean up my home, but that game is preventing it
[20:36] <momken> _adb, yes, detects all hot-keys but no change in brightness
[20:36] <tgm4883> danny_: well that seems like a silly idea
[20:36] <ikonia> danny_: you're creating a problem then - you can't really think a single, well named directory called "Documents" is clutter
[20:36] <danny_> ikonia, I never really use the Documents folder so it is clutter to me
[20:36] <ikonia> lots of things will use it though
[20:37] <momken> I am currently using this laptop with a sunglasses!!!
[20:37] <tgm4883> danny_: honestly that seems like over-micromanaging stuff
[20:38] <ikonia> it will just get re-creatd by things anyway
[20:38] <danny_> ikonia, plus it makes backups more of a pain cause I don't want to back up the game files in Documents
[20:38] <ikonia> how does it make that a pain
[20:38] <ikonia> just exclude what you don't want
[20:38] <danny_> tgm4883, maybe, its pretty low on my priority list but its still annoying
[20:38] <tgm4883> danny_: eh, seems like a non-issue.
[20:38] <tgm4883> danny_: how do you backup?
[20:39] <danny_> ikonia, Cause I have to remember which files I'm not backing up and might forget and put something important in Documents
[20:39] <_adb> momken: how are the hotkeys configured? to run some script? also, you said it was intel, right? you can manually change the brightness by writing integers to /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness (i think that's the correct path... the backlight directory should contain a couple options)
[20:39] <ikonia> danny_: honestly - your user approach is the problem, nothing else
[20:39] <danny_> tgm4883, I'm actually not right now embarrassingly enough, But I'm planning on using rsnapshot to a home server then
[20:39] <ikonia> not being rude but you are more likley to create a problem
[20:40] <ikonia> for the sake of one directory that is well named and clear
[20:40] <_adb> momken: that may be a workaround so you won't need sunglasses to keep working while you resolve the hotkeys
[20:40] <danny_> ikonia, That is why I'm asking, But it doesn't matter how well named it is if I don't want it
[20:41] <charlie__> rvm -v
[20:41] <ikonia> it does matter, and one directory is not clutter, but it's your box, but I suggest you change the way you work to align with how the rest of the world operate, totally your call though
[20:42] <tgm4883> danny_: again, you're micromanaging something that doesn't need micro-managed. Using rsnapshot, just add ~/Documents as an excluded directory
[20:42] <momken> _adb, hmmm. I haven't done anything specific. It is a default ubuntu 14.04 and it automatically detects all hotkeys correctly. Even multitouch functionality of trackpad works by default!!!
[20:42] <tgm4883> momken: out of curiosity, does a 16.04 live session let you change the brightness?
[20:43] <danny_> ikonia, I mean, I created my own home folder in Windows to stop programs from cluttering up my Documents and everything so it doesn't seem like a crazy solution to me.  What makes this solution bad in linux?
[20:43] <momken> _adb, so should I try "cat 5 > /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness"?
[20:43] <momken> tgm4883, I haven't tried 16.04 yet
[20:43] <_adb> 5 will be *very* dim. to get a sense of the scope of numbers, cat /sys/class/backlight/intel/max_brightness
[20:43] <tgm4883> danny_: well for starters, there's nothing preventing that game from creating the same directory structure inside your new home directory
[20:44] <_adb> momken: also, your actual command will be first "sudo chmod 666 /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness" so you can write to it, then "echo 88 > /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness", for example
[20:44] <danny_> tgm4883, ? But it wouldn't know it exists.  I would just make a new directory called ~/a or something in home and put everything relevant to me in it
[20:45] <tgm4883> danny_: but secondly, you're arguing with people that generally think time is better spent doing other more productive things than micromanaging their home directory structure. Further, while your backups can exist either way, if you do have to reinstall that is just one more thing to set up
[20:45] <Ice_Strike> Is there a way to find out to monitor how was the file has been modified from which application?
[20:45] <minimec> momken: First try 'cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness'.   As for what I would put in there, everything that I created in my normal home.  So everything except dotfiles and ~Documents
[20:47] <FatalNIX> I dunno why I'm still in here anyways, I swore I /part'd yesterday after I was done trolling. :D
[20:48] <momken> minimec, I have read both max_brightness and brightness. As I guessed the brightness and max_brightness are both 3484
[20:48] <tgm4883> danny_: it's not common practice because most users don't feel the need micromanage stuff
[20:49] <minimec> momken: so try 'sudo su -c 'echo 1742 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness'
[20:49] <momken> minimec, I changed it to 1000. It worked :)
[20:49] <danny_> tgm4883, Seeing how much time people spend on ricing their windows managers I honestly find that surprising
[20:50] <tgm4883> danny_: I think you may be the 2nd person I've ever seen in here complaining about excess folders in their home directory
[20:50] <minimec> momken: OK. So the driver can handle brightness. Now for your keys. There are different ways... Your computer should see the brightness keys as 'XF86MonBrightnessUp' and 'XF86MonBrightnessDown'
[20:51] <danny_> tgm4883, What do you do on windows? use the default home?
[20:51] <k1l_> danny_: tell steam/that game to handle that stuff differently. that is not an ubuntu issue.
[20:51] <tgm4883> danny_: on windows? I only use windows to access some work stuff
[20:51] <minimec> momken: Install 'sudo apt install xdotool' and try to change the brightness with 'xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessUp' or 'xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessDown'
[20:51] <tgm4883> danny_: but in general, yes I use the default directories
[20:52] <Ice_Strike> Is there a way to monitor a file that has been modifyed which application?
[20:53] <danny_> k1l_, I'm not blaming ubuntu, but it does annoy me
[20:53] <Ice_Strike> or how it was executed
[20:54] <tgm4883> danny_: you can do exactly what you were asking about. I just find it pointless to do so
[20:55] <jatt> Ice_Strike: inotify-tools
[20:55] <Ice_Strike> Yea I am using inotify-tools :)
[20:55] <danny_> tgm4883, ok, I find point in it and it takes less than a minute to do so I'm glad
[20:55] <momken> _adb, when I press brightness hot-keys I see brightness bar, but however I change it the brightness still goes to max: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=inbg2s&s=9#.V6-JRO3Sq0s
[20:55] <alejandro_> hi
[20:55] <alejandro_> hi
[20:55] <Ice_Strike> jatt But it didnt tell me how it was modifyed and who did?
[20:55] <alejandro_> hihi
[20:55] <alejandro_> hi
[20:55] <alejandro_> hih
[20:57] <logic1> is it possible to set localhost as the weechat server?
[20:58] <OerHeks> logic1, weechat is a client, not a server, afaik
[21:00] <danny_> ok, next question: Anybody here know about Monogame on linux?
[21:00] <momken> minimec, I used xdotool commands. It does the exact same functionality of pressing brightness hotkeys: always bringing brightness to max!
[21:00] <OerHeks> danny_, is it in our repos?
[21:02] <k1l_> monogame was only on trusty in the repos
[21:02] <_adb> momken: perhaps helpful: this article https://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/ suggests adding a section to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[21:02] <V7> Also
[21:02] <V7> There is a some other question about Unity Launcher :D
[21:02] <danny_> OerHeks, Don't think so, Monogame's site says to use monodevelop to compile but I was wondering if it was possible to just compile it throught the commandline somehow
[21:02] <danny_> Cause I don't really want to use monodevelop
[21:03] <minimec> momken: Ok. So we install the 'xbacklight'. you should then be able to increase brightness woth 'xbacklight -inc 20' and decrease with 'xbacklight -dec 20', while '20' indicates how much you want to in-/decrease.
[21:03] <V7> Why Unity Launcher doesn't show that Nautilus is opened ? http://i.imgur.com/hG0mFr1.png
[21:04] <k1l_> V7: look at the settings in unity-tweak-tool
[21:05] <lohfu> is there a cli to get GPU temperature from AMD cards in ubuntu 16?
[21:05] <bekks> !info sensors | lohfu
[21:05] <bekks> ah.
[21:05] <bekks> !info lmsensors
[21:06] <lohfu> i tried lm-sensors
[21:06] <avioni> !info anysensors
[21:06] <avioni> !info what sensors do exist
[21:06] <_adb> lol
[21:06] <vivid> !info lmsensors
[21:06] <lohfu> !info lm-sensors
[21:07] <lohfu> but it does not find the amd cards
[21:07] <bartozs> hello
[21:07] <avioni> lohfu what driver are u using
[21:07] <avioni> gallium?
[21:07] <bartozs> how can i ask to be invited into a channel without knowing anybody from it ?
[21:08] <k1l_> bartozs: look at the channels guidelines in the topic how to deal with that. but #freenode is a better place for that question
[21:08] <OerHeks> lohfu, after install lm-sensors, and setup, 'sensors' give me my AMD card as 1st item
[21:09] <V7> k1l_: ?
[21:09] <lohfu> i am using these drivers: https://community.amd.com/thread/202821
[21:09] <V7> k1l_: Nothing there
[21:09] <lohfu> but that does not give me amdconfig.
[21:09] <i6zno> not
[21:09] <k1l_> lohfu: you are aware that fglrx doesnt work anymore since 16.04?
[21:09] <OerHeks> lohfu, oh, not supported drivers, ask that site?
[21:10] <tgm4883> Didn't we determine yesterday that FGLRX doesn't even load in 16.04
[21:11] <lohfu> those work just fine
[21:11] <momken> minimec, hehe. The xbacklight doesn't work! It does the same thing the hotkeys do: Always setting brightness to max
[21:11] <lohfu> using them for headless opencl support
[21:11] <k1l_> lohfu: then ask amd to support that.
[21:11] <lohfu> ha, yeah right
[21:11] <lohfu> my loathing for amd grows by the second.
[21:11] <lohfu> fyi mining ether on linux is supremely difficult.
[21:12] <_adb> momken: what is the output of cat /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness
[21:12] <tgm4883> lohfu: so you won't ask AMD for support, but you'll ask us?
[21:13] <lohfu> i have tried registering there but not receiving their emails.
[21:13] <lohfu> and you guys are much more likely to be any help than amd.
[21:14] <minimec> momken: Ok. So indeed we have a nasty little problem...
[21:14] <tgm4883> lohfu: not sure if that is true for 16.04 FGLRX
[21:14] <momken> _adb, when I use xbacklight, then the output of /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness will be 3484 = max
[21:14] <momken> minimec, yeah
[21:15] <_adb> momken: were you able to write different values to that file? does it change the screen brightness?
[21:15] <_adb> momken: since 3484 is your max, try a value of 2000. after changing it, cat the file to make sure that it is, in fact, changed
[21:16] <lohfu> So if i was just using the amdgpu drivers, lm-sensors should pick up my gpu's?
[21:16] <momken> _adb, Yeah. I was able to write different values to /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness and it worked when edited as su
[21:17] <OerHeks> lohfu, yes.
[21:17] <paranoidabhi> hi guys
[21:17] <momken> _adb, I have done that and fortunately it worked in command line. But hot-keys and xbacklight commands don't work
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> I having a problem with making scanner work on ubuntu 16.04.
[21:18] <_adb> momken: do you have any errors in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> These the two related posts online https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?topic=3127.0 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322749
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> But both didn't work.
[21:18] <momken> _adb, I don't know
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> Please suggest if possible.
[21:19] <minimec> momken: Ok. Looks like a possible solution is to modify the Grub default CMDLINE so it looks like this or similar... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor". See in the comments of the following link. Looks that that worked for your computer model (in 12.04). http://askubuntu.com/a/228835
[21:19] <unotir> Sleep
[21:20] <_adb> ls
[21:20] <minimec> momken: Basically you add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the existing line, save and do a 'sudo update-grub' afterwades.
[21:23] <paranoidabhi> any idea?
[21:24] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, " Once you got the right firmware file copy it into /usr/share/sane/" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[21:25] <OerHeks> and maybe a permisson/goup issue > Add saned to the group which owns your scanner device: sudo adduser saned scanner
[21:25] <nico995> hi guys, is it possibile to connect a wireless display with ubuntu? I heard of aethercast and miraclecast, but with no success
[21:27] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, how do I get the right firmware file?
[21:28] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, $ l
[21:28] <paranoidabhi> app/  install-driver*  killserver/  lpd/  sane-backend/  server/  uninstall/  Version.html
[21:28] <momken> minimec, Everything seems fine for updating grub, but my grub is installed on /dev/sdb. Should I change 'sudo update-grub'?
[21:29] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, ^what I have from driver available online.
[21:29] <paranoidabhi> Tried the permission thing, was already there.
[21:30] <momken> minimec, _adb, It seems there was no problem. I just did 'sudo update-grub'. I am going to restart
[21:30] <momken> bye now
[21:30] <_adb> momken: good luck
[21:31] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, this wiki is all i got, firmware can be a file .fw
[21:33] <momken> minimec, It worked. Everything is fine now. The brightness hotkeys works completely right now
[21:33] <momken> minimec, Thank you very very very very very very much
[21:33] <minimec> momken: Good news! ;)
[21:33] <momken> _adb, And thank you too for helping me in this journey
[21:34] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, sry I can't find it in the driver installation folder
[21:34] <_adb> momken: whoo! minimec: great find
[21:35] <momken> minimec, The interesting thing is that I have my xubuntu install on a usb3 external ssd and I sometimes connect it to my pc. So basically my OS is portable :)
[21:35] <momken> minimec, And your solution works even on an ubuntu installed on an external hard-drive
[21:35] <minimec> _adb: Well... Some Google-Fu and longtime linux experience... ;)
[21:36] <minimec> momken: How much RAM do you have on that machine. Maybe you want to mount the /tmp directory to RAM during boot, to speed up the system and avoid write cycles on that external SSD.
[21:37] <minimec> momken: I do that with a USB3 64GB Sandisk stick.
[21:38] <momken> minimec, Currently I have 4GB ram, But I plan to increase it to its max = 16GB
[21:39] <momken> minimec, I have thought /tmp mount on ram by default, because tmpfs is usually used for being created on ram
[21:40] <minimec> momken: You can try to add 'tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777,nosuid 0 0' to your /etc/fstab file and reboot.
[21:41] <momken> minimec, So isn't /tmp mounted on ram by default? weird
[21:41] <momken> I always thought thats the default action
[21:44] <minimec> momken: You can check that. Go to the /tmp folder with your file manager and check with properties for 'free space'. If it is mounted in RAM you should have less than 4GB (in your case) free space available.
[21:46] <devan> got an older Radeon HD 7670 and for some reason lately whenever I play a game like portal2 or something on steam, or any other 3d accelerated app, my system just freezes. Even after a restart, the monitor won't start ether and needs rebooted constantly to get it to work again...
[21:46] <devan> is there something going on with mesa?
[21:47] <devan> btw Im on ubuntu 16.04-1 with mesa drivers
[21:47] <minimec> momken: I even go further and mount .cache/mozilla as /tmpfs too.
[21:48] <devan> is there a log file I can look at to find out why everything freezes after a few minutes of of 3d accelerated play?
[21:49] <momken> This laptop (HP EliteBook 8470) isn't an advanced laptop now. Only core i5-3320m with benchmark ~4000 on cpubenchmark.com
[21:50] <momken> And its display is a shitty 1366*768 matte screen with bad contrast
[21:51] <devan> ive looked around on google, but there's not much talk about older ati cards on 16.04
[21:51] <momken> But I only bought it ~205$
[21:51] <minimec> momken: My lenovo thinkpad has the same CPU I think, and when I show the system to other people, they think that it is a very speedy advanced system... ;)
[21:51] <k1l_> devan: look at the dmesg or xorg.log in /var/log. maybe you need to look into the cycled logs form the last reboot
[21:52] <minimec> momken: it's a lenovo thinkpad x230. A good working horse...
[21:52] <devan> ok i;ll check it out
[21:53] <lordcirth> devan, also, check temperatures, just in case
[21:53] <devan> where in /var/log should I look for?
[21:54] <k1l_> devan: dmesg or xorg.log
[21:56] <devan> dmesg is showing gibberish lol
[21:57] <devan> within dmesg what do I need to look for when i comes to ati card?
[21:57] <devan> i found a Xorg.0.log
[21:57] <devan> is that the one?
[21:58] <k1l_> devan: look out for errors. i dont know what is broken so i cant tell you the exact line to look at
[22:00] <devan> i see a bunch of "modelines" followed by an array of digits
[22:03] <devan> what if I watched dmesg in real time could that work?
[22:03] <momken> minimec, Hmmm. I saw reviews of thinkpad x230. Very interesting and the same power of my 14" laptop, but much lighter and better screen
[22:04] <momken> x230 has IPS panel with 5x more brightness than mine. But I still like EliteBook 8470
[22:06] <momken> I feel that 12.5" is very small. I use glasses and probably can't see small things without them. But x230 is really light with only 1.35kg weight
[22:08] <momken> The laptop I have bought was stock (whole sale imported) and so is very clean and unused. But I have seen 1 x230 too. Maybe I buy it tomorrow and give this to my brother
[22:08] <momken> anyway
[22:08] <minimec> momken: I just love that machine. In the meantime my siter has a x220 running Ubuntu, and her two children have each one a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows machine. You can even add an additional msata SSD to these machines.
[22:08] <_44trent> so i'm trying to go to a folder i added to /var/www/html but it's telling me access is denied...
[22:09] <_44trent> anyone know why this is?
[22:09] <k1l_> _44trent: how did you create it?
[22:09] <k1l_> _44trent: and are you in the www-data group?
[22:09] <_44trent> maybe...
[22:10] <_44trent> well i was having problems starting apache, and i go to <IP_ADDRESS>, and a service is clearly on it, it's just whatever ubuntu came with for httpd
[22:10] <_44trent> it was already started
[22:11] <_44trent> how do i add myself to www-data?
[22:12] <_44trent> i'm still getting a 403 forbidden
[22:13] <_44trent> i did "usermod -a -G www-data trenten"
[22:13] <_44trent> so i don't think it's that
[22:13] <k1l_> you need to relogin to make that change work
[22:14] <_44trent> okay
[22:15] <_44trent_> yeah i'm still getting a 403 when i try to access it
[22:15] <_44trent_> is there anything in apache.conf for permissions? i'm not even online, i'm just trying to test my php file.
[22:16] <_44trent_> it's only on <IP_ADDRESS>, so idc if anyone can access the directory
[22:16] <k1l_> 403 on the server. not on the shell. please show a "ls -al /var/www/...." to that directory
[22:17] <_44trent_> http://termbin.com/45gy
[22:17] <_44trent_> well that's probably the problem only root has access to it
[22:17] <k1l_> yeah, so you messed with sudo there
[22:18] <_44trent_> so uh, basically, don't put it there?
[22:18] <k1l_> _44trent_: no. permissions are very important when it comes to webserver files. you dont want the whole world to get code to your system.
[22:19] <_44trent_> well i don't even have port 80 forwarded, i'm the only one who can access it right now
[22:19] <k1l_> _44trent_: and instead of "it doesnt work so i just use sudo" there is the better way of have a proper handling of the permissions with the www-data group and the www-data user which runs the webserevr
[22:20] <k1l_> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[22:21] <k1l_> sudo chmod -R g+rwX /var/www
[22:21] <bekks> For the latter, I suggest sudo chmod -R ug+rwX /var/www
[22:30] <lunixc128> Hi everyone. Does somebody have experiences with recording/capturing online mms streams?
[22:31] <nano> hello folks, how to join a foreign chat?
[22:31] <nano> anyone?
[22:31] <pavlos> what is a foreign chat
[22:32] <lunixc128> I want to save an mms stream, and basically I know quite a few tools for doing so, but the problem is that the connection to that stream often gets interrupted
[22:32] <nano> pavos, i want to chat with french people
[22:32] <pavlos> !fr| nano
[22:32] <jacob_> quoi?
[22:33] <lunixc128> Actually command line VLC provides a resume/reconnect option, but this didn't work in that case
[22:33] <jacob_> I have ubuntu mate raspberry pi 3. does anyone else?
[22:33] <lunixc128> Is there any resume/reconnect option for mplayer?
[22:33] <nano> je suis bresilien, mais je veux pratiquer un petit peu Ubottu
[22:33] <pavlos> jacob_, try the rpi channels
[22:34] <nano> il y a deja long temps
[22:34] <jacob_> arrete de parler en francais
[22:34] <nano> ok dudes, no problem
[22:34] <jacob_> ;)
[22:34] <pavlos> sorry, my french is not good
[22:34] <nano> just tell me how to join a french channel
[22:34] <jacob_> le mien aussi
[22:35] <k1l_> nano: read the bots message
[22:35] <pavlos> nano, try /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:35] <nano> join #ubuntu-fr
[22:35] <k1l_> nano: in general you use "/join #channel" in irc
[22:35] <nano> ok
[22:35] <nano> thanks people
[22:35] <jacob_> ill try
[22:36] <pavlos> nano, jacob_ pas de quoi
[22:37] <jacob_> QUOI? pourQUOI?
[22:37] <pavlos> seems I meesed up ... sorry
[22:37] <jacob_> pavlos nano n'est pas ici
[22:37] <pavlos> messed
[22:37] <pavlos> got it
[22:40] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <pavlos> keyb stuck at .
[22:43] <jacobanjo> .
[22:43] <jacobanjo> .
[22:44] <jacobanjo> Finally my keyboard is working
[22:44] <Tbone139> I don't believe you
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> prove it
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> The period key isn't right next to ENTER
[22:45] <jacobanjo> MonkeyDust how
[22:45] <\9> your keyboard is still broken, and you are telepathically projecting your messages into irc
[22:45] <\9> you should see a doctor about that
[22:46] <jacobanjo> * ChanServ gives channel operator status to jacobanjo
[22:46] <sockboy> what
[22:52] <mirak> hi
[22:59] <paranoidabhi> hi
[22:59] <paranoidabhi> I trying to install scanner
[22:59] <paranoidabhi> the doc says " Add the following device information at the device information area in the /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules"
[23:00] <paranoidabhi> the file looks like https://bpaste.net/show/1aee9e364b0d and info add-  # Panasonic MFS scanners
[23:00] <paranoidabhi> ATTRS{idVendor}=="04da", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"
[23:00] <paranoidabhi> where should I add it?
[23:06] <energizer> I want to do a command to get the disk usage and line count of each file in a directory.
[23:06] <energizer> filesize in human-readable form, sorted by size
[23:06] <energizer>  find . {du -hs {}\; wc -l {}\;} | sort -h
[23:06] <energizer> that kind of thing
[23:08] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, add it under the Panasonic defs ... the top of the file tells you to add a entry between label-start and label-end
[23:14] <car> quiero conectarme a #ubuntu-uy
[23:21] <paranoidabhi> hi
[23:21] <paranoidabhi> any ideas on https://bpaste.net/show/24ccff3ae576. Same issue with no solutions https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?topic=3127.0
[23:22] <paranoidabhi> stuck at this for long
[23:25] <soLucien> how do i set up proxy access on a ubuntu machine ? I want it to connect to the internet (and make all requests through) a specific host
[23:25] <soLucien> is this possible ?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: 404 error is "file not found". Many times that is a result of outdated PPA on the system .
[23:25] <ice303> greetings. Can someone help me with Ubuntu 16 + Nvidia GF 8600GT? Everytime I reboot, my resolution goes down to 1024x765. I've remover the  nvidia-auto-select +0+0" from the xorg.conf, but no dice.
[23:25] <ice303> every single time I reboot, I have to "xrandr -s 1280x1024
[23:25] <paranoidabhi> Bashing-om, which 404 error are you referring to?
[23:26] <paranoidabhi> Segmentation fault (core dumped)?
[23:26] <shakermaker> hi
[23:26] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: I click your link " https://bpaste.net/show/24ccff3ae576. " and I get  404 .
[23:26] <bekks> Bashing-om: remove the .
[23:27] <Bashing-om> bekks: Yeah .. seen that too ... thanks .
[23:27] <paranoidabhi> Bashing-om, hmmm 404 on your browser?
[23:28] <VitoG> Hello.
[23:29] <paranoidabhi> This is the craziest suggestion I have heard since a long time. Can you kindly go through the logical reasoning behind it Bashing-om ?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: Yeah .. correct .. was the '.' I had copied . as to your problem .. no idea .
[23:30] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: User error on the 404 on my part .. no longer applies .
[23:30] <paranoidabhi> anyways :) Any ideas on my issue?
[23:33] <blackmamba> blackmamba-black
[23:33] <G3ntLm1> hey
[23:33] <G3ntLm1> whats the issue
[23:34] <G3ntLm1> i have no idea msg me
[23:36] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: No idea . A new one on me . A quick look on google is non-productive to me .
[23:55] <CyberDems> does udev work on arm for ubuntu ?
[23:55] <CyberDems> i only have basic shell scripts which return "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured." etc


[19:17] <pangolin> cyphermox: I am asking the IRCC to forward #ubuntu-ht (Haiti) to this channel until the Haiti community can get itself up and running.
[19:26] <pangolin> cyphermox: never mind.


[17:55] <xu-irc58w> does this support arm proccessors?
[17:57] <pleia2> we don't have an iso for it, but you can install the version of Ubuntu for arm and then install xubuntu-package
[17:57] <pleia2> err, xubuntu-desktop
[18:04] <xu-irc58w> i was asking because im planning on making a bootable usb with it
[18:05] <diogenes_> xu-irc58w, asking what?
[18:11] <xu-irc58w> the arm processor thing
[18:28] <Maik> xu-irc58w: Pi?
[18:29] <xu-irc58w> no
[18:40] <xu-irc58w> hmm
[20:32] <xu-help7w> hi. forgot my authentic code on ubuntu. how tor reset?


 Wait why?
 Stalking purposes
 Seems like a waste of time lol
 You sticking with TouchWiz, or do the software buttons just look like that?
 @Abrerr, That is stock TouchWiz/GraceUI
 So Batmobile in Hollywood
 Nice!
 I got a DeX Dock!
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[05:48] <ToxicRevenge> Hello
[06:27] <mesaboogie01> hi I'm terribly stuck
[06:28] <mesaboogie01> my touchpad is erratic/uncontrollable
[06:28] <mesaboogie01> pls help
[06:31] <mesaboogie01> ...I'll be back soon, just try something
[06:40] <mesaboogie01> ok, I've seemed to have fixed it
[11:29] <knob> Good morning!
[12:01] <rawiri> .
[13:14] <xubuntu-x4nd> First time using linux based OS. Having hanging issues during install of lubuntu or xubuntu from either cd or usb. XP is on old system, I would like that gone. Machine is x51 freevents and I've seen other people in other forums having issues with similar design machines but could not see a solution. I'm getting initializing gfx code on lubuntu and even less on xubuntu. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks
[13:16] <xubuntu-x4nd> 14.04.3-i386 are the versions I'm trying
[13:21]  * xubuntu-x4nd slaps Al1ve around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:46] <knob> What...
[14:32] <invalidName> Hello, I recently upgraded to 15.04. Now when I connect a second monitor and extend the screen I cannot move any window fully onto the screen. The window will hit a 'wall' well before the halfway point of the second screen. The mouse is freely able to move around the second screen without issue. Any suggestions?
[14:34] <holstein> invalidName: i have dealt with that in the past with alternate GPU drivers.. is that the case? is it nvidia or ati hardware that has proprietary drivers available?
[14:36] <invalidName> holstein: I am using proprietary drivers (nvidia-331 v 340.76). My computer has nvidia Optimus (has both Intel and Nvidia). Encountering problems while running in intel mode but I haven't tried it with nvidia.
[14:37] <cfhowlett> invalidName, did you install the intel 15.04 drivers?
[14:41] <invalidName> cfhowlett: the graphics drivers?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> invalidName, yep.
[14:42] <invalidName> cfhowlett: no I have not
[14:44] <invalidName> cfhowlett: would you suggest I try that first?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> invalidName, seems a sane step
[14:45] <invalidName> cfhowlett: great
[14:52] <invalidName> cfhowlett: installed it but it didn't fix the problem.
[14:52] <cfhowlett> invalidName, reboot
[14:53] <holstein> i have, in the past, used arandr to generate a script, which i will test, and set to autorun at login after a small delay
[14:53] <holstein> i have an older nvidia card that can do that, if i try and let it automatically deal with dual head
[14:53] <invalidName> okay, i'll be back after reboot
[14:53] <holstein> but, if you didnt reboot, you have to do that for driver changes like that
[14:54] <invalidName> yep
[14:56] <invalidName_> cfhowlett: it works. Thank you very much.
[14:56] <cfhowlett> invalidName, happy2help!
[16:00]  * Skald_9_ etenstijd
[16:35] <another_name> Another question about 15.04, I locked my computer with 2 screens (extended). After leaving it idle I came back to tried to unlock it. However both screens were gray. In order to unlock the computer I unplugged the second screen and the normal lock screen with login prompt showed up. Is there a solution to this?
[16:36] <edufmass> Hello, I've installed xubuntu 15.04 and xrdp, I connect from win pc. I run ifconfig in a terminal and I get error (bin or sbin is not in path, i don't remember very well). Is there a way to make a remote conection and work like the physical connection (all permissions, etc)?
[17:00] <knome> another_name, some people have reported similar issues and it's not clear why they exist. the next time that happens, simply try clicking with your mouse - some have said that helps (and it helps for me too when i rarely get that)
[17:00] <knome> another_name, well i get it at boot, but it's essentially the same situation
[17:01] <another_name> knome: okay fair enough. It also seemed it still accepted my keyboard input. So I might have been able to log in "blind".
[17:03] <another_name> knome: thanks for the suggestions.
[17:09] <knome> another_name, no problem - let's hope we can get this all fixed :)
[17:09] <knome> another_name, if you are interested in helping us out, join #xubuntu-devel and hang out - we're talking about the problem now and then and potentially need debugging from different hardware setups
[17:10] <another_name> knome: sure.
[18:00] <jrivera_> hola
[18:35] <Guest64444> i have issue with calibre in xfce desktop.. files are not option using calibre
[18:36] <Guest64444> http://dpaste.com/1M5FRGD
[21:41] <zacwalls> I am having this really weird desktop glitch http://imgur.com/UZVrNi5 what should I do to fix it?
[21:42] <zacwalls> this is a fresh install from a couple of minuets ago
[21:43] <holstein> i would look for, and apply all updates, and reboot.. after that, i would look into any alternative GPU drivers.. then, i would try something like arandr, and see if i can set the desktop geometry and have any effect on that..
[21:43] <zacwalls> ok thats what I figured. Be back in a few :)
[21:47] <zacwalls> holstien same thing
[21:47] <zacwalls> holstein same thing
[21:47] <zacwalls> sorry
[21:48] <holstein> zacwalls: when? after rebooting after opening the terminal and running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ? and, are there proprietary drivers avaiable? also, have you tried arandr? or the included display tool?
[21:49] <zacwalls> wait i forgot to mention that this laptops display is busted and I have been using a monitor and i just went into the display settings. I will report my solution in a few :)
[21:50] <holstein> i would expect to have dual head on, and maybe that is causing the issue.. where, you are actually just seeing a part of the broken display
[21:50] <holstein> i would likely disable the internal in the bios..
[21:51] <zacwalls> center of the screen. Cannot afford to fix. Also, its via RGB and it wont display until I have booted into the OS
[21:52] <holstein> hey, i do that often.. an external monitor on a broken laptop..
[21:52] <holstein> but, you'll have to sort out the work arounds..
[21:53] <zacwalls> eek
[21:54] <zacwalls> display tool it is...
[21:55] <zacwalls> holstein http://imgur.com/BYkcVEn
[21:55] <holstein> right.. so, since that one is broken, you can disable it, there
[21:56] <zacwalls> wat?
[21:56] <holstein> zacwalls: since the internal laptop screen is broken, you can use that tool to disable it
[21:56] <holstein> and get a "better" looking desktop
[21:56] <zacwalls> ah
[21:56] <zacwalls> ok
[21:59] <zacwalls> holstein http://imgur.com/cUAq2Uw :(
[21:59] <holstein> zacwalls: right.. whats the problem? that looks great
[21:59] <holstein> vga only.. looks clean..
[22:00] <zacwalls> the date/time is in the corner all weird IMPERFECTION!!!! lol
[22:00] <holstein> zacwalls: thats the panel layout, though.. *not* monitor geometry
[22:00] <zacwalls> oh so desktop settings :)
[22:01] <zacwalls> ok
[22:01] <holstein> zacwalls: panel layout, specificall
[22:01] <zacwalls> lol
[22:01] <holstein> zacwalls: if thats what you are having issues with.. i literally dont see an issue with the desktop there..
[22:01] <zacwalls> ok  well let me see what I can do and send you a screenshot
[22:04] <PhilGEE> hmm
[23:28] <fearnothing> hi folks
[23:28] <fearnothing> what's the proper way to set static IP via command line these days?#


[00:04] <ali1234> i just fixed an 8 year old bug that nobody notice until 6 months ago :(
[00:05] <ali1234> somehow it's also the top apport crasher for xubuntu
[00:07] <daftykins> :O
[00:07] <daftykins> nice work
[00:36]  * zmoylan-pi hands ali1234 a cookie for work done
[06:21] <mapps> morning
[07:11] <Myrtti_> ali1234: which one?
[07:37] <ali1234> Myrtti_: the one where xfwm crashes if your hostname is longer than 31 characters
[07:37] <Myrtti_> ah.
[08:13] <Guest15705> good morning aqll
[08:13] <popey> Morning
[08:13] <MooDoo> rats kicked off again :()
[09:25] <diddledan> brain? brain? what are we going to do today, brain?
[09:27] <TheBrain> The same thing we do every day, Pinky. Try to take over the World!
[09:30] <diddledan> roger that!
[09:30]  * diddledan prepares
[09:30] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:30] <diddledan> one towel. one beer. done
[09:31] <brobostigon> :)
[09:31] <diddledan> mornin brobostigon
[09:31] <brobostigon> morning diddledan
[09:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Nachos Day! :-D
[09:51] <MooDoo> morning
[10:01] <davmor2> JamesTait: What else is it today I'm not a fan of Nachos
[10:01] <foobarry> how do you screenshot in android 4.x ?
[10:01] <foobarry> cyanogen had it on the power button
[10:01] <foobarry> can't find it in stock
[10:01] <davmor2> foobarry: depends on the make of the phone
[10:01] <diddledan> volume-down+power?
[10:02] <MooDoo> +1
[10:02] <foobarry> volume down first?
[10:02] <MooDoo> both at the same time
[10:02] <diddledan> at the same time
[10:02] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's Men Make Dinner Day.
[10:02] <foobarry> nothing happens
[10:02] <foobarry> ah...hold for 1-2 secs
[10:03] <foobarry> thanks gutys
[10:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: yeah I'm doing that anyway wifey is poorly
[10:13] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[10:13] <davmor2> MooDoo: how are you me owld mucka
[10:15] <MooDoo> yeah i'm ok mate, just watched a video about sabdfl getting someone up on stage to use autopilot :D
[10:17] <MooDoo> davmor2: what about yourself good sir.....? I've also been trying to p2v my ubuntu server to vmware with not much success :D
[10:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: watch the live migration of doom while it is playing if you want funky :)
[10:21] <MooDoo> yeah i saw that too, :)
[10:23] <MooDoo> davmor2: just could do with my webserver virtualising for failover.
[10:23] <NET||abuse> :( hamster project is pretty much dead. sad face, I really need something to track myself with something like the desktop integration of hamster
[10:24] <NET||abuse> and the granular reporting it gave. i really liked it.
[10:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: easy ha proxy with a cloud backup :P
[10:29] <MooDoo> davmor2: doesn't help me with duplicating the server in the first place though
[10:31] <MooDoo> i could usee virt-v2v i think
[10:33] <ujjain> how do I install an pkg file with dependencies?
[10:33] <NET||abuse> pkg?
[10:33] <ujjain> .deb?
[10:33] <ujjain> apt-get install blabla.deb not working
[10:33] <NET||abuse> dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:33] <NET||abuse> and sudo that
[10:33] <ujjain> too many dependencies
[10:34] <NET||abuse> ahh, in that case
[10:34] <NET||abuse> apt-get install -f blah.deb    I think it might also get the dependancies
[10:34] <NET||abuse> i'm not sure though
[10:35] <MooDoo> i normally dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:35] <MooDoo> then sudo apt-get -f install to get all the rest
[10:35] <NET||abuse> dpkg -i blah.deb first. yes MooDoo is right, then aptget -f install  will say "dependencies are ready to install" and it'll go get them.
[10:35] <NET||abuse> then dpkg -i blah.deb again to get the package
[10:36] <NET||abuse> otherwise, i think gdebi might do it for you too
[10:37] <ujjain> meh, I think the teamviewer package is a bit crappy
[10:38] <ujjain> maybe I should use vnc,
[10:41] <NET||abuse> teamviewer sorts out the connection nat forwarding etc for you , but vnc is fine too,, though i have a big interest in starting to use spice
[10:42] <NET||abuse> otherwise look at no machine's nx
[10:42] <ujjain> yeah, I have blcoked ports here I cant change, it's a bit of a pain in the culo
[10:42] <ujjain> but i'll fin da way
[10:42] <NET||abuse> the other way is X11 forwarding :)
[10:43] <ujjain> ah, good one, but my laptop has no Linux, but Mac
[10:44] <NET||abuse> HEATHEN!!! get the nonbeliever!!!
[10:45] <Myrtti_> SHUN THE NONBELIEVER
[10:45] <Myrtti_> SHHUUuUuuNnN
[10:45] <foobarry> sacrifice him at dawn
[10:46] <NET||abuse> marry him to a goat, then try him for bestiality!!
[10:46] <ujjain> I repent my sinful way of life. :(
[10:46] <NET||abuse> hmm, i might have gone a little far there.
[10:46] <awilkins> ujjain, If your server is in colo and there are other Ubuntu servers in there htey may have an apt mirror up
[10:46] <foobarry> prove your repentance by posting a picture of your mac on fire
[10:46] <Myrtti_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CsGYh8AacgY
[10:46] <foobarry> or just boot ubuntu ;)
[10:46] <NET||abuse> :P hehe,
[10:47]  * NET||abuse whispers : pssst,, ujjain you can just boot ubuntu in virtualbox full screen,, that'll trick em!
[10:47] <NET||abuse> oh wow, does spice do audio too
[10:48] <foobarry> spice desktop?
[10:48] <foobarry> who uis using it
[10:48] <foobarry> i'm about to get redhat in to chat about it
[10:48] <ujjain> ah, maybe I should install a good OS in a virtual machine yeah.
[10:48] <davmor2> Myrtti_: thanks now I have this in my head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSTBFZ-To2E
[11:07] <diddledan> btw, mac os x does X11, too
[11:57] <popey> Uh oh
[11:57] <MooDoo> ?
[12:01] <brobostigon> how do i enbale me as a normal user, to allow raw usb device access to a raw usb device in /dev/bus/usb ?
[12:06] <willcooke> brobostigon, this might help:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=901891&page=4
[12:07] <willcooke> I think you have to create a udev rule to set the perms on the specific USB device you want access to
[12:07] <willcooke> and/or be in the plugdev group
[12:07] <brobostigon> ok, thank you.
[12:22] <davmor2> popey: just install 11 it's fine......unless there was another Uh oh ;)
[12:26]  * popey suspects davmor2 said that in the wrong channel
[12:27] <popey> \o/ 25 people have installed "my" calculator app on Ubuntu phone
[12:28] <davmor2> popey: no you said Uh oh about 30 minutes ago on this channel :P
[12:28] <popey> yes, 11:50:20 -!- willcooke [~willcooke@canonical/willcooke] has joined #ubuntu-uk
[12:28] <popey> 11:57:13 < popey> Uh oh
[12:28] <popey> ☻
[12:28] <willcooke> \o/
[12:28] <willcooke> I'm still reading the code of conduct
[12:29] <popey> haha
[12:31] <davmor2> popey: ah now it all makes sense, I have joins hidden :)
[12:31] <Laney> just don't talk about the wa^W^Wpolitics
[12:34] <davmor2> Laney: Are you taking Conservative guesses at willcooke 's liberal attitude to labour disputes that lead to stikes with that comment?
[12:35] <Laney> !POLITICS
[12:35] <davmor2> Laney: hahahahahaha
[12:37] <willcooke> :D
[12:46] <MooDoo> *yawn*
[13:05] <foobarry> went to tower hill this lunchtime
[13:05] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/QRajTtE.jpg
[13:06] <popey> blimey
[13:06] <foobarry> a sea of grey hair
[13:06] <foobarry> and some poppies
[13:28] <DJones> foobarry: Thats a cracking picture
[13:29] <foobarry> took on my phone, want to see some more?
[13:31] <DJones> Yeah, would be good, not something I'll get to see in person
[13:31] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/1KgIU
[13:32] <DJones> It looks amazing
[13:32] <foobarry> its really effective
[13:32] <foobarry> sooo many people
[13:33] <foobarry> but you can get a good view from anywhere i suppose
[13:34] <foobarry> and its free
[13:34] <foobarry> people like free things
[13:34] <foobarry> there is zreo organisation considering there were like 5-10 thousand ppl there
[13:35] <foobarry> or 20-30 thou
[13:35] <foobarry> really hard to tell
[13:41] <popey> my kids are making ceramic poppies at school
[13:43] <foobarry> nice
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> when they could be out sweeping chimneys
[13:44] <TwistedLucidity> Never sure how to feel about poppies. One the one hand it's a worthy cause, on the other a low of people (read: MPs) use it as an excuse for fawning and trying to gain reflected glory.
[13:45] <foobarry> its good to remember these things
[13:45] <foobarry> i ignore what MPs say at the best of times so meh
[13:45] <foobarry> also they are selling the 880,000 poppies to raise £11.6m
[13:45] <foobarry> to worthy charities
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> One thing that is beginning to irk me about the UK is the near deification of our armed forces. I know the put there lives at risk, I know it's a horrible job at times and they often have inadequate kit/support after conflict.
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> I get all that.
[13:48] <foobarry> hmm , do you read the sun or something?
[13:48] <foobarry> i don't see it
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> But there is an air of "If you don't support <insert military charity>, then you hate your country"
[13:49] <zmoylan-pi> then there's what if some public face *doesn't* wear a poppy
[13:49] <TwistedLucidity> It's like you need to be seen to support it in order to be socially accepted, no matter what your feelings on it may be.
[13:50] <foobarry> be careful not to think that the media speaks for people. it only speaks for a small group of insular people
[13:51] <TwistedLucidity> I'd rather see the military not used for illegal wars/nation building/etc in the first blasted place.
[13:52] <TwistedLucidity> But I guess that's fantasy vs reality.
[13:56] <TwistedLucidity> And I have broken my web server. Oh bother.
[13:57] <foobarry> need more spiders
[15:10] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[15:45] <davmor2> bigcalm: morning dude
[15:46] <bigcalm> o/
[15:46] <bigcalm> davmor2: are you well?
[15:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: I'm tired, but good thanks,  This moving half your house out, having a load of building work done, decorating and moving half your home back again just isn't as much fun as it is cracked up to be :)
[15:49] <bigcalm> Aww
[15:49] <bigcalm> Is it warmer now?
[15:50] <davmor2> bigcalm: it wasn't heating, electrics, new kitchen and new bathroom and toilet.  heating was the year before
[15:54] <bigcalm> Ah
[15:55] <bigcalm> Did you have to contribute much?
[15:59] <davmor2> bigcalm: nope just moving all the stuff, it's council so it is they that have done the work
[16:03] <bigcalm> Very nice of them
[16:04] <bigcalm> One day, Wolverhampton won't look like a complete dump. It's the people that make it a nice place though
[16:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: no it will always be a dump they aren't doing things to the outside on the inside :)
[16:06] <BigRedS> I have two 10.04 machines running Pidgin 2.10.9. One claims our jabber server's cert is invalid, the other doesn't, Anyone got any ideas why?
[16:06] <BigRedS> I don't really care about the validity of the cert, but I don't seem to be able to say 'ignore cert errors' or even 'don't use encryption'
[16:08] <bigcalm> davmor2: I hope that the council go in for exterior renovation (as can be seen on Birmingham's towers)
[16:09] <davmor2> bigcalm: no too damned expensive :)
[16:18] <czajkowski> anyone hknow how you associate an email address with google for calendar ?
[16:21] <ujjain> who understands routes?
[16:21] <ujjain> how do I replace <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0 < by tun-aib0?
[16:23] <popey> czajkowski: eh?
[16:26] <czajkowski> I have outlook mail and their calendar but it's not very nice to use
[16:26] <czajkowski> I want to use gogole calendar for my calendar and wondered how to get that to work
[16:26] <czajkowski> I'm sure there is  a way
[16:27] <popey> uh, i dont think you can do that
[16:28] <czajkowski> *mutters*
[16:28] <czajkowski> popey: thanks
[16:28] <czajkowski> popey: see my shiny red notebook :p
[16:29] <popey> yeah ☻
[16:34] <mapps> getting cold at nights here now :((
[16:35] <czajkowski> yup had the fire on for thelast few nights
[16:35] <mapps> ive only got 1 pair of jeans here though!
[16:35] <mapps> and 1 hoodie..rest shorts and tshirts;D
[16:47] <czajkowski> popey: oh if I add the other email address in google under other email addresses I can then see any calendars added :D
[16:47] <diddledan> I might need to close my window tonight
[17:16] <bigcalm> Anybody use a mssql server browser in linux?
[17:17] <awilkins> You can probably use Oracle SQL Workbench with the appropriate JDBC connector?
[17:17] <awilkins> (but, no, not personally)
[17:18] <bigcalm> Humm, might be worth having a look at, ta
[17:19] <awilkins> There's a Thing for Eclipse too
[17:19] <awilkins> Also JDBC powered
[21:24] <Azelphur> http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186338-d1657415-r237650360-Park_Plaza_Westminster_Bridge_London-London_England.html this response to my review is bizarre, "Not sure what happened with the wifi it's just exactly as you said it was"
[21:50] <mapps> what was wrong with the wifi?:D
[21:51] <popey> you left a vaguely technical review and someone non-technical replied, clearly
[21:54] <Azelphur> popey: haha, god alone knows :P
[21:55] <Azelphur> mapps: it was capped to 1mbit/sec, real world I was getting about 0.7 out of it, was useless as I say, went to tethering and got like 6mbit/sec
[22:09] <Azelphur> friend just got a job at Microsoft, we are trying to convince him to wear a ReactOS shirt on his first day :)
[22:09] <zmoylan-pi> a big tux on his desk
[22:10] <Azelphur> exactly.
[22:40] <MooDoo> evening
[23:07] <MooDoo> :)
[23:08] <diddledan> have I broken my network or is www.google.com dead?
[23:21] <daftykins> diddledan: alive-alive-o here
[23:22] <diddledan> other services are working ok
[23:22] <diddledan> like bing
[23:22] <diddledan> but anything google is timing out
[23:24] <daftykins> tracert'd to see where it dies?
[23:27] <diddledan> ergh
[23:27] <diddledan> that's annoying
[23:28] <diddledan> it's "remembered" a route via virginmedia even though 1) the route is currently turned off, and 2) my virgin connection isn't activated by virgin yet
[23:29] <diddledan> so it blackholes in virgin's helpful "you're not activated yet" singularity
[23:30] <daftykins> how are you online then?
[23:30] <daftykins> what skullduggery is this?
[23:33] <zmoylan-pi> he's viewing the matrix directly
[23:35] <daftykins> ah
[23:35] <diddledan> lol
[23:35] <daftykins> that explains the cloud of green rising from diddledan
[23:40] <diddledan> this is actually pretty ok considering it was done entirely on the iphone: http://whitchurch.org.uk/news/whitchurch-man-achieves-world-first-with-iphone-6/