[14:00] <alex_ole> !hardy
[14:00] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  no panel at the bottom?  odd.
[14:00] <TimothyA> no panels
[14:00] <TimothyA> it's GTK mucking up, I think
[14:00] <TimothyA> does jwm use gtk?
[14:00] <dr_willis> TimothyA: to get a terminal you could always go to the console and do a 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' then 'xterm'
[14:01] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  no it does not.
[14:01] <czardoz> how can i add a "rotate image" to the right click menu in pcmanfm?
[14:01] <TimothyA> xterm will spawn a new console window, yes
[14:01] <vivid> hello, i just did a fresh install of xubuntu 11.10 and after rebooting the display manager never starts.  it just sits in a continuous loop of crashing and attempting to start.  i cannot change to a console or do anything with the machine other than hard reset........ anyone know how to fix this?
[14:01] <TimothyA> but it makes the previous one unusuable
[14:01] <TimothyA> so what's the point of that?
[14:01] <dr_willis> TimothyA:   xterm &
[14:01] <TimothyA> :|
[14:01] <theishi> Is there a better room to talk about the host file?
[14:01] <TimothyA> anyhow, for the 15th timwe: how do i REINSTALL GTK?
[14:01] <dr_willis> will make a xterminal window on teh X display.. not the console
[14:02] <zykotick9> theishi, no one answered, but I don't think URLs (www.google.com) are valid in the hosts file.
[14:02] <TimothyA> xterminal window, console, whatever you want to call it
[14:02] <theishi> vivid: can you get to the boot screen and boot into Linuxs safe mode?
[14:03] <TimothyA> I'm starting to get pissed off at ubuntu enough to just throw the damn thing out of the window altogether and remove ubuntu and install red hat on all the server
[14:03] <theishi> zykotick9: yeah i don't think so either... any idea on where i could go to find a file that could do this?
[14:03] <TimothyA> s
[14:03] <vivid> theishi, yes, but still doesnt help me figure out what to do
[14:03] <zykotick9> theishi, no idea.
[14:03] <tyler_d> TimothyA: what is your frustration if you don't mind TimothyA?
[14:03] <TimothyA> ...........
[14:04] <TimothyA> tyler_d: YOU'RE NOT BEING COOL BY USING THAT NICKNAME JUST BECAUSE YOU WATCHED A GOOD MOVIE
[14:04] <tyler_d> TimothyA: ahhh, re-install GTK?
[14:04] <sipior> TimothyA: stamping your feet and shaking your rattle is unlikely to get you closer to a solution.
[14:04] <vibhav> !caps | TimothyA
[14:04] <theishi> vivid: do any of the boot options work, can you boot into a terminal through the menu?
[14:04] <Rictoo> lol TimothyA are you ok
[14:04] <zebulon> tyler_d: do you know of a good resource for properly editing /etc/group ? i see lots of groups without added users/processes
[14:04] <Rictoo> you look a little hot temperd
[14:04] <tyler_d> TimothyA: there is no need to be mean... I'm trying to help. And yes, it is a fantastic movie
[14:04] <Rictoo> would you like a glass of water?
[14:04] <TimothyA> you asked for my frustration level, you got it :@
[14:04] <zebulon> tyler_d: its difficult getting this right without a guide
[14:04] <deej1976> !text | vivid:
[14:04] <theishi> zykotick9: ok.. thanks anyway
[14:04] <vibhav> TimothyA: If you want help , please give us the proper details ; This Channel is not for venting your grievances about ubuntu
[14:04] <tyler_d> zebulon: from term use vim
[14:04] <vivid> theishi, the recovery console works, thats it, anything with video fails in an infinite loop.  with both the default installed driver and the nvidia driver
[14:05] <TimothyA> vibhav: I've been trying to *get* the proper details
[14:05] <vivid> deej1976, thanks dude, now have that bot tell me whats wrong and how to fix it
[14:05] <theishi> vivid: I hate to ask the obvious, but what did you do :-) were you messing with anything resently?
[14:05] <zykotick9> zebulon, don't go blindly removing groups!
[14:05] <vivid> theishi, fresh install
[14:05] <Rictoo> !google | TimothyA
[14:05] <theishi> oh :-).... hmm vivid
[14:05] <Rictoo> oh shit
[14:05] <Rictoo> :D
[14:05] <TimothyA> unfortunately, google does not respond with anything useful
[14:05] <TimothyA> + I don't get the RIGHT error messages
[14:06] <TimothyA> and it isn't logging the error messages which I actually need
[14:06] <Rictoo> !google | QUIT\r\n
[14:06] <zebulon> zykotick9: i'm not removing any groups, i'm trying to place the right user processes in the right groups!
[14:06] <Rictoo> damn it.
[14:06]  * TimothyA sighs
[14:06] <usr13> TimothyA: Why don't you describe what is wrong with your system?
[14:06] <TimothyA> usr13: for the 18th time? okay
[14:06] <tyler_d> TimothyA: have you attempted to strace for more output? what output are you getting
[14:06] <vibhav> TimothyA: Yes
[14:06] <TimothyA> ubuntu boots, passes loading screen, black screen with a white mouse cursor that is usuable
[14:06] <TimothyA> and then nothing else
[14:06] <TimothyA> gdm refuses to start properly
[14:06] <theishi> vivid: i would try a second attempt at installing ... have you tried that?
[14:06] <zykotick9> zebulon, in that case you should really be using some of the "tools" to do that then.  usermod addgroup type stuff.
[14:06] <TimothyA> no idea why, because it doesn't tell me
[14:07] <TimothyA> x works as expected
[14:07] <TimothyA> jwm doesn't display the full WM set
[14:07] <tyler_d> TimothyA: From a term have you attempted to move your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart?
[14:07] <TimothyA> xwm doesn't start either
[14:07] <TimothyA> there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:07] <TimothyA> there is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[14:07] <TimothyA> just tell me how to reinstall gtk, because none of the applications that rely on gtk actually work
[14:08] <theishi> vivid: if that doesn't work... or if you already tried it... i would boot to a terminal and try to run startx.... and see what happens
[14:08] <tyler_d> TimothyA: what does Xorg.0.log tell you about any errors / problems
[14:08] <TimothyA> nothing
[14:08] <zebulon> zykotick9: i'm merely checking the file with cat /etc/group am using adduser, i'm not nano-ing into /etc/group...
[14:08] <usr13> TimothyA: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:09] <usr13> and send resulting URL
[14:09] <tyler_d> TimothyA: I would at this point drop to term and start a `tail -f /var/log/*` then restart the x session; noting any errors that may occur
[14:09] <Chees_BHW> can anyone help me locate the mail.log ?
[14:09] <TimothyA> tyler_d: which i've done for the past 18 times...
[14:09] <TimothyA> usr13: okay, how do I select everything and copy it?
[14:09] <tyler_d> TimothyA: Great, can you please pastebin teh output by teeing it to a file for me?
[14:10] <TimothyA> tyler_d: okay, how do I select everything and copy it?
[14:10] <Rictoo> pastebinit is a command-line app, TimothyA
[14:10] <tyler_d> Chees_BHW: updatedb ; locate mail.log
[14:10] <Rictoo> it takes a text file as an argument
[14:10] <llutz> Chees_BHW: /var/log/mail.log
[14:10] <CharminTheMoose> On a default ubuntu install for 11.04, can I just disable cron or will all kinds of bad stuff happen?
[14:10] <Chees_BHW> llutz its not there - i tried that 1st
[14:10] <TimothyA> http://paste.debian.net/146485/
[14:10] <vibhav> TimothyA: Did you try a reinstall
[14:11] <llutz> Chees_BHW: check your mta-config, where it logs to
[14:11] <tyler_d> TimothyA: from the term do, `tail -f /var/log/* | tee ~/log.output` then you can simply pop open that file after restarting X and copy the appropriate content please
[14:11] <zebulon> ech, i've done some damage lol
[14:11] <Rictoo> TimothyA, that's the wrong paste.
[14:11] <TimothyA> .... he asked for xorg.0.log
[14:11] <Rictoo> im seeing a testdisk report :S
[14:11] <czardoz> how can i rotate all images in a folder by 90 degrees clockwise?
[14:12] <llutz> czardoz: convert -rotate ...
[14:12] <usr13> TimothyA: Just issue the command:   pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:12] <TimothyA> usr13: ....
[14:12] <TimothyA> that's what I did
[14:12] <czardoz> llutz: ok, thanks
[14:12] <TimothyA> FFS
[14:12] <Rictoo> TimothyA, no
[14:12] <Rictoo> you pasted a previous paste
[14:12] <TimothyA> ...
[14:12] <TimothyA> WTF
[14:12] <Rictoo> that someone else did 20 minutes ago
[14:12] <TimothyA> pastebinit is broken then
[14:12] <Rictoo> calm down
[14:12] <vibhav> !language | TimothyA
[14:13] <deej1976> !info nautilus-image-manipulator | czardoz:
[14:13] <TimothyA> http://paste.debian.net/745142/
[14:13] <TimothyA> ...
[14:13] <usr13> TimothyA: lsb_release -a |pastebinit
[14:13] <TimothyA> how the hell did it put debian there
[14:14] <TimothyA> No LSB modules are available
[14:14] <vivid> theishi, works fine if i run startx, clearly lightdm is the problem
[14:14] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/745143/
[14:14]  * TimothyA is going to replace debian with ubuntu from now on in the links
[14:14] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.net/745142/
[14:15] <Rictoo> there we go, inally
[14:15] <zebulon> one last question: should the user-processes be owners of their associated locations? for instance postgres:x:1000:1000::/home/postgres:/bin/s
[14:15] <zebulon> +h
[14:15] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/745142/ eurgh
[14:16] <iceroot> zebulon: is that the real postgres-user?
[14:16] <iceroot> zebulon: the one from the daemon
[14:16] <zebulon> iceroot: as real as ever...
[14:16] <zebulon> iceroot: should be
[14:16] <usr13> TimothyA: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:16] <zebulon> although postgres fails on boot
[14:16] <iceroot> zebulon: why does the real postgress-user have a login-shell and the uid 1000
[14:17] <zebulon> iceroot: no idea, i didn't put it there
[14:17] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/745147/
[14:17] <iceroot> zebulon: what is your primary ubuntu-user called?
[14:17] <zebulon> iceroot: guess what
[14:17] <Rico_> hallo
[14:17] <zebulon> iceroot: r00t
[14:17] <zebulon> without the 0s then
[14:17] <iceroot> zebulon: can you paste the output of "getent passwd" please
[14:17] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[14:18] <zebulon> iceroot: in channel?!
[14:18] <iceroot> !paste | zebulon
[14:19] <iceroot> zebulon: there are "just" usernames in that output, no passwords
[14:19] <usr13> TimothyA: For some strange reason you have a mixture of lucid and natty repos How did that happen?
[14:19] <TimothyA> usr13: I don't know. I installed this from DVD
[14:20] <TimothyA> and I haven't altered it except for nginx
[14:20] <zebulon> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/745150/
[14:20] <iceroot> usr13: there are other users today with strange sources.list-files too
[14:20] <TimothyA> and I never did a repos upgrade
[14:20] <usr13> Can someone else look at this and see if they can tell what is going on?:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/745147/
[14:20] <zebulon> iceroot: i'd appreciate any advice you can give
[14:20] <TimothyA> *version upgrade
[14:21] <usr13> iceroot: Really?  Did you guys come to any conclusion about it?
[14:21] <iceroot> usr13: i just thought they do strange things on there system
[14:21] <vibhav> usr13: You pasted your sources list
[14:21] <usr13> vibhav: No, that was TimothyA's
[14:21] <iceroot> zebulon: is that a default ubuntu-installation?
[14:22] <zebulon> iceroot: does it have to be?
[14:22] <iceroot> zebulon: with that passwd something went wrong
[14:22] <Chees_BHW> llutz can I pm you ?
[14:22] <zebulon> iceroot: well something is wrong, what went wrong?
[14:22] <TimothyA> usr13: also, I've added those with the ppa command
[14:22] <iceroot> zebulon: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[14:22] <Andrew_Lee> g
[14:22] <iceroot> usr13: but i still think its not a bug just special user-foo
[14:23] <TimothyA> for nginx
[14:23] <zebulon> yay backtrack 5 R1 aka ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx... no support?
[14:23] <TimothyA> http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Ubuntu_PPA
[14:23] <iceroot> zebulon: ah great
[14:23] <iceroot> zebulon: its not ubuntu and so out of support here :)
[14:23] <zebulon> noooo
[14:23] <iceroot> !backtrack | zebulon
[14:23] <zebulon> i know,, i know...
[14:23] <rootux> after i setup my ubuntu 10.10 system to ubuntu 11.04 my connection to the internet per wlan was cutted. What can i do to establish the connection?
[14:24] <zebulon> c'mon just tell me about the proper rights, the issues are all ubuntu kernel related...
[14:24] <iceroot> zebulon: i you know that please dont ask backtrack questions here, we can not support it
[14:24] <vibhav> rootux: Please give some more details
[14:24] <zebulon> of course you can...
[14:24] <zebulon> but its ok
[14:24] <vibhav> zebulon: No we can't , It is the channels policy
[14:24] <iceroot> zebulon: the first issue is a wrong uid order in /etc/passwd about the postgres user
[14:25] <iceroot> zebulon: i can not support backtrack because i dont know backtrack and when i have a look at the passwd there is a difference to ubuntu-installations
[14:25] <iceroot> zebulon: because of that i cant give support
[14:25] <matrix3000> hey guys, how would i fix gui to ask for current user isntead of "administrator" login when current user has sudo
[14:25] <zebulon> iceroot: i understand, the uid's are the problem at the moment, with gnome-system-tools and similar installations, but this is a user issue i've created.
[14:25] <TimothyA> okay, so I deem this problem to be unsolvable, and henceforth declare ubuntu to not be desktop-friendly at all
[14:26]  * TimothyA goes back to windows for development
[14:26] <iceroot> zebulon: i dont know if the uid is the problem but because of it is not ubuntu, please join the backtrack channel
[14:26] <berefeira> just updated system, now window resizing for terminal is fubar'd, awesome!
[14:26] <iceroot> zebulon: and ask them why the default user at installation does not have uid 1000
[14:26] <iceroot> zebulon: and why the postgresuser have a loginshell and so on
[14:26] <usr13> TimothyA: If you notice, it says "Official Debian/Ubuntu packages" and then "Ubuntu 10.04:"
[14:26] <llutz> iceroot: backtracks default user is root...
[14:26] <zebulon> iceroot: thanks :]
[14:26] <TimothyA> usr13: turns out, GTK was the problem
[14:27] <TimothyA> I finally managed to reinstall it, with no thanks to you guys
[14:27] <iceroot> llutz: as i said, i dont know backtrack and because of that i can not support it
[14:27] <zebulon> iceroot: i'll give there forums a shot, i believe #backtrac here doesn't provide support or i'm auto-banned for another reason, never been in that channel
[14:27] <TimothyA> seriously
[14:27] <iceroot> zebulon: #backtrack-linux
[14:27] <usr13> TimothyA: But what about the instructions you followed at:  http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Ubuntu_PPA  ?
[14:27] <TimothyA> JUST...
[14:27] <sipior> TimothyA: go away.
[14:27] <zebulon> iceroot: one last question about the uid then... haldaemon:x:113:122:Hardware abstraction layer,,,:/var/run/hald:/bin/false
[14:27] <zebulon> iceroot: what are those 3 commas after the name?
[14:28] <usr13> TimothyA: You need to repair what you messed up there.  OK?
[14:28] <stuk_gen> hi all, i use ubuntu 11.04 with classic gnome. I put a link near the menu bar, near the clock. Now i want delete this but i don't know how can i do this. What is the method?
[14:28] <llutz> zebulon: stop offtopic stuff here now pls. if you're 1337 enough to use and break a pentesting distro which isn't meant to be used on regular base, you'll find help somewhere. just not here
[14:28] <TimothyA> usr13: ... can you count for me how often I asked on how to reinstall gtk, and how often it got answered?
[14:28] <TimothyA> and yes, I've tried to google for it, without any results showing up
[14:28] <TimothyA> I had to do it by sheer luck of hitting the right package name to reinstall
[14:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: man 5 passwd
[14:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: wrong nick
[14:28] <iceroot> ...
[14:28] <usr13> TimothyA: So what did you do?
[14:29] <TimothyA> ...
[14:29]  * TimothyA is about to explode
[14:29] <sipior> TimothyA: please do.
[14:29] <TimothyA> usr13: I reinstalled gtk, that's what I did
[14:29] <rootux> vibhav, when i start the browser for example it says "there can't establish a conection to the server>"
[14:29] <rootux> vibhav, but if i connet the pc with the router it says the connection to the router is established
[14:29] <rootux> vibhav, i got a broadcom network driver
[14:29] <usr13> TimothyA: Look, we are trying to help you here.  Do you want help or not?
[14:29]  * TimothyA bangs his head on the desk
[14:29] <iceroot> TimothyA: are you really flaming people here which give you free support in there free time about not saying what you want?
[14:30] <iceroot> TimothyA: if so, please type /wc
[14:30] <jpmh> I am running unity - I am starting to like it.  I use putty to connect to a number of machines,  it is in the bar on the left (Good), I click on it and putty opens (good), But if it is already open, how do I start another copy?
[14:30] <TimothyA> iceroot: no, I asked several times, in a row, without being answered about reinstalling gtk. yet everyone seemed eager to tell me to purge/remove/reinstall everything *but* GTK
[14:30] <iceroot> TimothyA: if not, be kind to the people here, we are all doing our best in our free time
[14:30] <TimothyA> even after I said multiple times that GTK was throwing errors it shouldn't be throwing
[14:31] <TimothyA> I'm just really frustrated at the moment, that's all
[14:31] <iceroot> TimothyA: not my problem
[14:31] <TimothyA> fine, then anyone who searches the logs will know to reinstall gtk instead of everything else
[14:31] <rootux> how can i find out the name of my network card?
[14:31] <usr13> TimothyA: Ok, well you fixed it. Let's move on.
[14:31] <deej1976> jpmh: Should be able to right click and start a new putty
[14:31] <llutz> rootux: lspci
[14:32] <craven> What's the best way to get my Personal Hotspot working on ubuntu 11.04? Don't have a wifi card so it would need to be the USB drivers.
[14:32] <rootux> thx
[14:32] <iceroot> craven: ?
[14:32] <dr_willis> Personal Hotspot is what exactly?
[14:32] <iceroot> craven: you dont have a wifi-card?
[14:32] <craven> iceroot: dr_willis: iPhone tethering
[14:32] <jpmh> deej1976:  no - that's the rub - when I right click it bnrings me back to the one that is already open if there is one
[14:32] <usr13> TimothyA: On another issue, you need to repair your soruces.list file.
[14:33] <craven> iceroot: nope, I have a external wifi dongle but couldn't get the linux drivers for it to work
[14:33] <sattu94> I believe it's called USB tethering, a hotspot is exclusively wi-fi, right ?
[14:33] <dr_willis> a external wifi dongle... is a wireless card. :) its just a usb one..
[14:33] <iceroot> craven: a linux-driver for the iphone as wifi-adapter?
[14:33] <deej1976> jpmh: Just install putty
[14:33] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:33] <deej1976> jpmh: Just installing putty myself
[14:33] <craven> sattu94: the full thing is called 'Personal Hotspot' on the phone
[14:33] <TimothyA> great, now dbus is malfunctioning
[14:33] <CharminTheMoose> On a default ubuntu install for 11.04, can I just disable cron or will all kinds of bad stuff happen?
[14:34] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: not a good idea to disable cron
[14:34] <craven> iceroot: no a ubuntu driver for the iphone as a usb dongle (it shows up as a ethernet connection on winxp)
[14:34] <jpmh> deej1976: what do you mean - I have putty installed - that's why I can open it from there
[14:34] <craven> I found this tutorial http://www.marvinlemos.net/?p=321 but will I be able to install repositorys without a internet connection?
[14:34] <deej1976> jpmh: I've installed putty to have a look
[14:34] <iceroot> craven: hm sorry dont know, i (luckily) dont have stuff from apple
[14:34] <CharminTheMoose> iceroot, why not? What stuff does cron manage?
[14:35] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: e.g. logrotate
[14:35] <sattu94> craven: yes you need the internet, to get stuff from the repositories.
[14:35] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: and everything you will find with this command /cat /etc/cron.*
[14:35] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: what is the reason you want to disable cron?
[14:35] <craven> sattu94: I have the internet on my xp partition (the one I'm on atm) anyway I could download them to my external hard drive and run them off that?
[14:36] <bo_root> i just installed latest ubuntu on my mothers laptop and now i cant enable wireless, switch is not responding and its shut down, any hints?
[14:36] <iceroot> craven: you can to that with deb-files, yes
[14:36] <jpmh> in unity I now have in the launcher a tab for Update Manager, there is a number 32 in it,  when I click on it nothing happens - why not
[14:36] <sattu94> craven: but you dont get deb files from repos.
[14:36] <placki4ever> bo_root: Open the Terminal and run "lspci" so we can know what wireless card you have
[14:36] <rootux> after i set up my system to ubuntu 11.04 (my network controller is: Broadcom Corpartion BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wirless LAN Controller) I only can etablish a wirless connection to the router, but if i start a browser it says connection to the sever can't be establish. What can I do ?
[14:37] <CharminTheMoose> iceroot, I don't personally have a need to run it anyway, like, I could run any of the commands I care about on an as-needed basis.
[14:37] <bo_root> placki4ever: BCM43225
[14:37] <CharminTheMoose> Logrotate I could run when I needed to, like.
[14:37] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: that is not a good reason to disable cron
[14:37] <topriddy> hope this is valid: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gillesg/ppa
[14:37] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: have a look at cat /etc/cron.daily/*  some of that sounds important
[14:37] <placki4ever> bo_root and rootux: If you don't find any other solution, you can try using ndiswrapper to install the windows driver
[14:38] <iceroot> TimothyA: sounds correct
[14:38] <craven> sattu94: iceroot: I think I've found the deb-files here (https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa) not sure which 'ipheth' to download as there are several
[14:38] <usr13> TimothyA: YOU are malfunctioning.  I would say that the first thing you need to do is edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the last 6 lines.
[14:38] <TimothyA> usr13: ... it doesn't even LOAD anything from those repositories except for nginx
[14:38] <iceroot> craven: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[14:39] <topriddy> how do i tell apt-get to prefer 32bit files when on a 64 bit linux system?
[14:39] <usr13> TimothyA: Ok well you seem to know more about this than me.  Sorry.  I'll move on.
[14:39] <iceroot> topriddy: why?
[14:39] <craven> iceroot: don't have access to that atm as I'm on a different partition. I assume the version I'm supposed to download is derived from my ethernet card?
[14:39] <bo_root> placki4ever: i am using ndiswrapper on FreeBSD, but to use it on ubuntu, i mean, i heard that on ubuntu works almost everything out of the box :)
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> topriddy  you need ia-lib something
[14:40] <iceroot> craven: no just the ubuntu-version is important. 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 or something like that
[14:40] <placki4ever> bo_root: yes, "almost", broadcom wireless seems to be one of those things who don't
[14:40] <sattu94> craven: and your CPU arch, ubuntu version
[14:40] <topriddy> iceroot: some stuff in the repos i added doesnt find amd64 indexes and is messing up my installations
[14:40] <craven> iceroot: I'm on 11.04
[14:40] <topriddy> iceroot: i am following instructions here: http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/wiki/DebianInstall
[14:40] <jjg> hi all .. i created an ubuntu server that I now need a GUI on .. is there a simple apt-get command to install a GUI?
[14:40] <iceroot> topriddy: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and cat /etc/issue
[14:40] <deej1976> jpmh: Just looking at adding a quicklist to the icon
[14:40] <iceroot> !paste | topriddy
[14:41] <sattu94> jjg: depends on what "GUI" you want, there are multiple "GUI"s
[14:41] <iceroot> craven: then you need the debfile for natty
[14:41] <jjg> sattu94: what's the default GUI or most commonly used GUI?
[14:41] <sattu94> craven: make sure you get the correct srchitacture.
[14:41] <rootux> can i install nidswarpper by : sudo apt-get install nidswarpper  ?
[14:41] <sattu94> jjg: gnome, kde
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> rootux  you mean ndiswrapper
[14:42] <jjg> ok .. gnome is what I'm used to.
[14:42] <jjg> apt-get install gnome?
[14:42] <sattu94> jjg: gnome comes with ubuntu, kde comes with kubuntu
[14:42] <placki4ever> rootux: you can get its gui by sudo apt-get install ndis-gtk - this should also give ndiswrapper's cli
[14:42] <jjg> sattu94: got it, tx
[14:42] <craven> iceroot: sattu94: Thanks, found a general one (I think) and will try the natty one if that fails.
[14:42] <sattu94> jjg: you might need other packages too
[14:42] <synapse> I am running 2.6.32-35-generic #78, if I do a git clone of git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git, is it possible for me to use my existing /boot/config-2.6.32-35-generic as the .config when rebuilding?  I want to ensure everything is exactly the same except a hack I've made
[14:42] <iceroot> craven: great
[14:42] <jjg> sattu94: will apt-get not resolve the dependencies for me?
[14:42] <rootux> thanks a lot :_)
[14:42] <iceroot> synapse: yes the config should match because its the ubuntu-config
[14:43] <sattu94> jjg: it will, but gnome will probably be bare bones GUI,
[14:43] <iceroot> jjg: it will
[14:43] <iceroot> jjg: what you want? install gnome3?
[14:43] <sattu94> jjg: ig you need a fully functional desktop like ubuntu desktop, you might want to get the package "ubuntu-desktop"...
[14:43] <synapse> iceroot: do I need to do a make menuconfig if I use the config from /boot ?
[14:43] <JHH> Can someone private chat with me about ubuntu software centre
[14:43] <iceroot> synapse: sorry dont know
[14:43] <jjg> sattu94: ok thanks
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: just ask your detailed question here
[14:44] <jjg> iceroot: yah, i think so
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: sorry wrong nick
[14:44] <iceroot> JHH: just ask your detailed question here
[14:44] <synapse> it seems like everytime I have compiled a kenel, half of my stuff quits working
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: you are using ubuntu 11.10?
[14:44] <jjg> how to tell?
[14:44] <jjg> iceroot: I think so
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <jjg> 11.10
[14:44] <topriddy> iceroot: please, why wont this work for me? The APT repository part :( http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/wiki/DebianInstall
[14:44] <tjader> Hi. When I insert a SD disk or USB drive and try to open it via the unity launcher it tries to open the folder with the archive manager. How can I fix that?
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: you are using unity at the moment?
[14:45] <jjg> iceroot: it's a server install in a VM
[14:45] <iceroot> topriddy: Starting with version 0.8.8, the Debian packages only support Lucid and subsequent releases. You have two options:
[14:45] <JHH> I cannot instal anything on software center, it says to check my internet connection. The internet conectgion is fine but it will not install. this has happened with lots of different apps i've tried to install
[14:45] <jjg> iceroot: I think I will create another VM with a GUI instead of downloading the packages .. it is 1.4 GB
[14:45] <sattu94> jjg: if you need something lightweight lxde,xfce might do your job..
[14:45] <jjg> sattu94: ok thanks
[14:45] <iceroot> jjg: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will bring you gnome3 + unity
[14:46] <iceroot> jjg: but i dont think you need that on a server
[14:46] <rootux> placki4ever, sorry I tried sudo apt-get install ndis-gtk   --   but it printed: packet can't be found...
[14:46] <Jonii> anyone know why these four things seem to have nothing to do with each other: 1) layout used for typing stuff, 2) layout used for ctrl-<key> type of shortcuts, 3) layout displayed next to the login screen or on top info applet thingie, and 4) layout shown when you click that info applet and select "show layout"
I cannot instal anything on software center, it says to check my internet connection. The internet conectgion is fine but it will not install. this has happened with lots of different apps i've tried to install
[14:46] <jjg> iceroot: if I do a default desktop install, does that include gnome3 + unity
[14:46] <iceroot> JHH: can you ping google.com?
[14:46] <sattu94> jjg: yes, if you have 11.10+..
[14:46] <placki4ever> rootux: hmm... I forgot if it's in the repos or not... Anyway it *should* be on the CD
[14:46] <jjg> iceroot: I don't .. but after I installed I realized I want to keep multiple terminals open in my VM so I need X
[14:46] <iceroot> jjg: yes
[14:46] <Jonii> I've used two systems, and both 10.4 and 11.10, and the problem persist, so I think I can say that this is simply a bug in ubuntu
[14:47] <iceroot> jjg: yes but needing x is different to install complete gnome3 with ubuntu-stuff
[14:47] <jjg> iceroot: tx
[14:47] <iceroot> jjg: you can use ssh to connect to your vm or you can install x
[14:47] <sattu94> jjg: and if u need multiple terminals, try byobu, or screen , or ctrl+alt+F(num)
[14:47] <sattu94> jjg: on a server.
[14:47] <jjg> iceroot: yep .. thanks
[14:48] <jjg> sattu94: thanks
 ping? sorry I'm a noob
[14:48] <jjg> creating a new VM now
[14:48] <iceroot> JHH: no problem. can you e.g. browse the internet with firefox?
[14:48] <iceroot> JHH: lets use this chat instead
 yes i can
[14:49] <iceroot> JHH: you know how to open a terminal?
 yep
[14:49] <topriddy> iceroot: you said i have two options?? I am waiting please.
[14:49] <iceroot> topriddy: read the link you gave me
[14:49] <iceroot> topriddy: i just copied the text from there
[14:50] <iceroot> JHH: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get update"
[14:50] <iceroot> !paste | JHH
[14:50] <deej1976> jpmh: Sorry, I can't get the infomation for a quicklist right
[14:50] <Pilif12p> my CD drive doesn't seem to work.
[14:51] <iceroot> !work | Pilif12p
[14:51] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[14:51] <deej1976> jpmh: Why not just use a terminal and ssh
[14:51] <topriddy> iceroot: i dont understand the *Lucid and subsequent releases part* I am on Ubuntu 11.10. I have tried manual installation too and it fails. i am grabbing on straws now. :(
[14:52] <iceroot> topriddy: lucid is ubuntu 10.04
[14:52] <iceroot> topriddy: the page wants to tell you that you must enable a ppa for versions higher then 10.04
[14:52] <Pilif12p> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1386788
[14:52] <jpmh> deej1976: putty is MUCH better that ssh - right now what I am doing to make the second instance is: terminal and then invoking putty there - horrible kludge
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> luist  according to fstab, it seems you mounted / to some non-recognized device
[14:52] <placki4ever> luist: maybe there's no partition set as "/" in /etc/fstab or it's set incorrectly?
[14:53] <iceroot> topriddy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gillesg/ppa && sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get install libv4l4j-java
[14:53] <jpmh> deej1976: and more to the point - what if I want to do this with other things - does unity stop me
[14:53] <luist> MonkeyDust: placki4ever: its a chroot and tutorial only told me to mount /sys and /rpoc
[14:53] <iceroot> luist: sounds likes / is encrpyted?
  okay pasted there
[14:53] <iceroot> JHH: i need the link to view it
[14:53] <deej1976> jpmh: Look at running a terminal with a screen session, Then you can have 9 easy accessible ssh sessions in one terminal
[14:53] <luist> iceroot: ?
[14:54] <luist> iceroot: ^
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/745168/
[14:54] <iceroot> jpmh: if you say putty is better i think you like beer :) ? have a look at "screen"
[14:54] <topriddy> iceroot: i did all that before. on runing of second command i get a 404 Not Found error on /binary-amd64/Packages
[14:54] <placki4ever> luist: Well, looks like the system is telling you to mount something as "/" now,  see if that helps
[14:55] <topriddy> iceroot: then i decided to try the sane/sane.d/jsane option. met headaches with that too. :(
[14:55] <iceroot> JHH: hm everything is fine and the package-files are transfered succesfully
[14:55] <deej1976> Pilif12p: Have you tried adding -o loop
[14:55] <luist> placki4ever: what should i mount as "/" ?
[14:55] <iceroot> topriddy: then the ppa is not providing stuff for ubuntu 11.10
[14:55] <iceroot> topriddy: contact the ppa maintainer /wiki author and ask if there is a ppa for 11.10
[14:55] <JHH> so why wont it let me install?
 so why wont it let me install?
[14:56] <iceroot> JHH: you said there was an error about fetching an amd64 package file
[14:56] <tarvid> any point in debugging 11.10 failure to automount DVDs on a Dimension 8300?
[14:56] <iceroot> tarvid: dmesg
[14:57] <tarvid> empty when I insert a DVD
[14:57] <iceroot> JHH: ah sorry you said that software-center cant connect to the internet
[14:57] <tarvid> it is a regression and used to work
[14:57] <sebastian__> hola
[14:57] <iceroot> JHH: what software you want to install?
[14:57] <placki4ever> luist: the main partition, the one holding everything else mounted, the one keeping the system files, but it seems to be weird that you can edit "/etc/fstab" and access other files when "/" is not specifed...
[14:57] <tarvid> new kernel today did not fix
[14:57] <jayar> can anyone reccomend a decent alternative to cpanel for ubuntu server?
 okay its workign now it looks like. I'm trying to intall drivers for a printer
[14:58] <iceroot> JHH: ah ok, good to hear
[14:59] <tarvid> manual mount fails - no mediusm in drive
[14:59] <topriddy> iceroot: thanks 'friend', i appreciate all the help/support.
[14:59] <jpmh> iceroot: what screen?  anyway = the issue is more generic - lets assume I want to launch a second copy of anything
[14:59] <tarvid> obviously a kernel bug
[14:59] <iceroot> jpmh: open a terminal and type "screen"
[14:59] <iceroot> jpmh: also see "man screen"
[15:00] <iceroot> jpmh: when inside the screen session you can use "ctrl + a +c" to open a new screen/tab, switch them with "ctrl + a + n"
[15:00] <topriddy> iceroot: i wonder why the manual installation sucks though. I keep going in circles of dependency management. would wish all other deps were transparently just installed.
[15:00] <iceroot> jpmh: screen will also hold the session open, even when you close the ssh connection
[15:00] <iceroot> topriddy: not when the versions are not matching
[15:01] <iceroot> topriddy: then you dont want an automaticly installation
[15:01] <topriddy> do we reckon one can just read stufff directly from vide
[15:01] <topriddy> do we reckon one can just read stufff directly from /dev/video* stream directly
[15:01] <iceroot> jpmh: there is nothing more powerfull then screen + ssh (vim of course but that is another topic)
[15:02] <domnic> hi
[15:03] <placki4ever> hello
[15:05] <edbian> placki4ever: hi
[15:05] <mika213> Hi
[15:05] <edbian> placki4ever: quiet in here today...
[15:06] <mika213> i need help
[15:06] <deej1976> !ask | mika213
[15:07] <inzi> hey everyone
[15:07] <placki4ever> hey there
[15:07] <inzi> Does anyone have a fix for the brightness issue, on ubuntu 11.10, i' hve to keep adjusting the brightness everytime i restart!
[15:07] <inzi> Hey placki4ever
[15:09] <inzi> hey @placki4ever how are u?
[15:09] <inzi> Does anyone have a fix for the brightness issue, on ubuntu 11.10, i' hve to keep adjusting the brightness everytime i restart!
[15:09] <deej1976> !patience | inzi
[15:09] <placki4ever> inzi: Fine, thanks! Trying to look up for an answer for ya, or at least a workaround
[15:10] <inzi> ahhh thankx ..
[15:10] <jpmh> iceroot: looking at screen - ty
[15:10] <inzi> oops sorry deej.. im quite new to the irc client.
[15:10] <inzi> placki4ever : are u on ubuntu 11.10?
[15:11] <inzi> placki4ever: unity or gnome shell?
[15:11] <placki4ever> inzi: ubuntu 11.10, unity
[15:12] <inzi> placki4ever: oh yeah.. im experiencing this issue when i safely remove my external hdd.. entire system hangs.
[15:12] <shane_> Hi guys
[15:12] <inzi> shane : Hey shane!
[15:13] <synapse> I have an intel processor(uname -a shows x86_64), do I want to use the amd64 kernel ARCH config?
[15:13] <edbian> synapse: yep
[15:13] <shane_> I am having a problem getting my ralink device working - it works in 11.10 however not in 10.10
[15:13] <edbian> synapse: do you have more than 3.2 Gb of ram?
[15:13] <synapse> 4gb
[15:13] <inzi> synapse : then x64 it is
[15:13] <edbian> synapse: yep, use 64 bit OS.  If you don't you will only be able to use 3.2 Gb of ram
[15:13] <azertyii> hi
[15:14] <shane_> The device is Edimax EW-7718Un, I have tried multiple online documents to no avail.
[15:14] <azertyii> anyone there ?
[15:14] <edbian> no
[15:14] <inzi> hey azertyii
[15:14] <azertyii> what this one ^ mean on ubuntu ?
[15:14] <placki4ever> inzi: Sorry, but it looks like I cannot find a solution for you
[15:15] <inzi> placki4ever.:  thnx dude. seems like we'll have to wait for it to get fixd hopefully soon..do u use ubuntu on a laptop or desktop
[15:15] <placki4ever> inzi: laptop
[15:15] <inzi> placki4ever: u dont have that issue?
[15:15] <placki4ever> inzi: a workaround to this would be to set a startup script that changes the brightness to the desired level
[15:16] <placki4ever> inzi: No, I don't have this issue
[15:16] <inzi> placki4ever : hmmm yah..i figured that would be the only solution...
[15:17] <inzi> placki4ever : so far its the only problem im having with 11.10.. everything else seems to be just peachy :)
[15:17] <azertyii> this one ^ mean  ?
[15:17] <inzi> azertyii : sorry no idea
[15:17] <odb|fidel> azertyii: try to rephrase your question
[15:18] <azertyii> ok
[15:18] <azertyii> i can see in most case in command line ppl are used to use this sign ^,  i don't know what's for ?
[15:20] <rootux> how can install such a packet in terminal: ndiswrapper-1.57rc1.tar.gz
[15:20] <topriddy> seems everything i try to install have unmet dependencies. *sigh*
[15:20] <odb|fidel> azertyii: show us an example
[15:21] <topriddy> something as simple as sudo apt-get install build-essential doesnt work for me
[15:21] <placki4ever> rootux: It will be easier for you to download a .deb file instead
[15:21] <deej1976> topriddy| pastebinit output
[15:21] <odb|fidel> topriddy: paste the result/output somewhere
[15:22] <inzi> rootux:  isnt the ndiswrapper in the softwarecenter?
[15:22] <m3talh3ad1> i want a good tutorial about the ice service. can't find anything
[15:22] <Pici> m3talh3ad1: What is the 'ice service'?
[15:22] <domnic> inzi, slacker
[15:22] <topriddy> deej1976: i dont have (cant find pidgin) irc client on my Ubuntu 11
[15:23] <Chees_BHW> how can i locate rsyslog.conf ?
[15:23] <odb|fidel> Chees_BHW: i.e. using find/locate in cli
[15:23] <m3talh3ad1> Pici: i can't describe it better. i saw it in the mumble tutorial
[15:23] <Chees_BHW> i tried - its not working, odb|fidel
[15:23] <deej1976> topriddy: sudo apt-get pastebinit ? returns error
[15:23] <odb|fidel> Chees_BHW: for sure find/locate do work
[15:23] <Chees_BHW> i mean it doesnt find it
[15:23] <llutz> Chees_BHW: /etc/rsyslog.conf (or rsyslog.d/*)
[15:24] <Pici> m3talh3ad1: If its mumble specific, maybe the folks in #mumble have a better idea?
[15:24] <Chees_BHW> llutz its not in /etc .. thats why Im confused
[15:24] <m3talh3ad1> yeah maybe
[15:24] <llutz> Chees_BHW: apt-cache policy rsyslog |grep -i iinsta
[15:24] <inzi> domnic : wah
[15:25] <AkhlD> is there anyway to fix this proxy bug?
[15:25] <Chees_BHW> llutz can i pl u ?
[15:25] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4
[15:25] <Chees_BHW> pm*
[15:25] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4 odb|fidel
[15:25] <llutz> Chees_BHW: nope, keep it in the channel
[15:25] <azertyii> this is just only an exemple
[15:25] <AkhlD> i have installed tor proxy and its working, but i cant configure it with chrome
[15:25] <Chees_BHW> llutz in /etc there is rsyslog.d and inside there's only postfix.conf - i can give a pastebin
[15:26] <Pici> azertyii: its part of the regex syntax.  Its not really in the scope of this channel, but outside the brackets it means to match the beginning of the line, inside the brackets it is a negation.
[15:26] <deej1976> azertyii : ^Y means Ctrl-Y, http://www.answers.com/topic/caret
[15:26] <placki4ever> rootux: I told you to install ndis-gtk using apt-get before... Sorry, it's "ndisgtk" ( no "-"). Try it again with the correct name, please
[15:26] <odb|fidel> azertyii: the sign in general is calleD: circumflex
[15:26] <llutz> Chees_BHW: there should also be the rsyslog.conf
[15:26] <domnic> inz, he will learn to compile for its need he's already there...will take some time to do it
[15:26] <odb|fidel> it should negate an expression afaik
[15:27] <Chees_BHW> llutz there isnt :S
[15:27] <topriddy> how is Ubuntu support for sane? am considering that now.
[15:27] <topriddy> sane + jsane.
[15:27] <inzi> domnic : ooo ok.. im a noob to ubuntu myself.. hvnt really had time to learn the inner workings :(
[15:27] <topriddy> so far i keep hitting errors in that too. Should we just say linux isnt to good for peripheral devices?
[15:28] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4 odb|fidel
[15:28] <Chees_BHW> llutz in rsyslod.d there is 1 file - postfix.conf and there's the content of it http://pastebin.com/wM94jhgu
[15:28] <Pici> azertyii: Was there something wrong with my answer?
[15:28] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4 ok so if i understand well this command is
[15:28] <llutz> Chees_BHW: why did you remove it? ;)    get a default rsyslog.conf from someone using the same distro-version as you
[15:28] <mquasar> hi all, I want to execute a python script when I log in, but haven't found the right place to do that
[15:29] <Chees_BHW> llutz lol i didnt. maybe my hosting modified the ubuntu LAMP ..
[15:29] <mquasar> tried .bash_profile, .bash_login
[15:29] <azertyii> equal to	grep "^[bB]" fic4     =    grep "[bB]" fic4
[15:29] <dp> where does ubuntu keep the dm to start (gdm/kdm/xdm/etc) ?
[15:29] <mquasar> and .bashrc
[15:29] <azertyii> correct ?
[15:29] <inzi> alright guys.. thanks for all ur help
[15:29] <inzi> cheerio n gudnight!
[15:30] <Chees_BHW> llutz my default user in ubuntu LAMP 10.4 is root  so i dont sudo - is that normal or my hosting provider modified something ?
[15:30] <azertyii> do you get what i mean Pici
[15:30] <azertyii>  ?
[15:30] <llutz> Chees_BHW: it happens
[15:30] <UICTamale> Hello everyone.  After performing a usual apt-get update/upgrade this morning, my laptop with an ATI graphics card using the open-source drivers on ubuntu 11.10 is running incredibly slowly.
[15:31] <Chees_BHW> ok thanks llutz
[15:31] <ragnarok> hey
[15:31] <llutz> Chees_BHW: i'll paste you my conf, 2 secs
[15:31] <domnic> !dbus
[15:31] <UICTamale> Can anyone help?
[15:32] <azertyii> well anyone can aswer to my questioN ,
[15:32] <azertyii> ?
[15:32] <urthmover> I have installed 11.10. during the boot process I see the ubuntu splash screen...then goes blank and I see a blinking cursor in the upper left.  From that point I have waited for at least 10 minutes and the cursor is still there.  If I press Alt-F2 I am put on a nice new vtty and given the opportunity to log in.  How can I fix the initial startup so that I am prompted with a login without pressing Alt_F2?
[15:32] <domnic> ! dbus
[15:32] <llutz> Chewtoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/745188/
[15:32] <deej1976> azertyii : ^Y means Ctrl-Y, http://www.answers.com/topic/caret
[15:32] <ragnarok> The kmess package in ubuntu is buggy. It has a disconnection bug which was fixed in a recent version of Kmess. Please update it.
[15:32] <azertyii> this one : grep "^[bB]" fic4   is equal to this one     grep "[bB]" fic4
[15:32] <dp> anyone?
[15:32] <Jordan_U> !bug | ragnarok
[15:33] <Jordan_U> ragnarok: Reporting bugs here will do nothing to get them fixed.
[15:33] <llutz> azertyii: no
[15:33] <azertyii> why ? llutz
[15:33] <jatt> which is the best way of installing grub on an external USB drive and make it bootable?
[15:33] <synapse> How can I ensure that the eact same kernel options/config will be built (except for one file I hacked) for Lucid?  I cloned the source and want to use /boot/config-2.6.32-35-generic as my config.
[15:33] <llutz> azertyii: ^ <- at the beginning of a line
[15:34] <urthmover> is plymouth or something getting in the way?  How do I begin to troubleshoot this boot process issue?
[15:35] <UICTamale> Hello everyone.  After performing a usual apt-get update/upgrade this morning, my laptop with an ATI graphics card using the open-source drivers on ubuntu 11.10 is running incredibly slowly.  Can anyone help?
[15:35] <azertyii> ok perfect i get now llutz
[15:35] <azertyii> thanks
[15:36] <odb|fidel> UICTamale: what is slow?
[15:36] <UICTamale> Everything.  Moving windows, typing in the terminal
[15:36] <UICTamale> etc
[15:36] <odb|fidel> the entire device or just x/gui related things?
[15:36] <UICTamale> I believe it's all X related
[15:36] <scope> hi, does anyone know about this stuff: http://pastebin.com/VpkgJUcS ... i got it after changing my hostname...
[15:36] <UICTamale> The mouse is responding quickly
[15:36] <domnic> UICTamale, you should read the manual before upgrade.. according to system requirements.
[15:36] <UICTamale> but that's about it
[15:37] <UICTamale> Really??  The update manager doesn't really warn you that things might be unusable after just updating your packages.. :[
[15:37] <iceroot> domnic: he is talking about apt-get upgrade
[15:37] <scope> it's weird cuz now i can't upgrade or install anythin at the CLI
[15:37] <iceroot> domnic: no "do-release-upgrade"
[15:38] <surfdue> Good morning, I have a final ram question. I am purchased 16gb of ram today I have these two options Centon 1333Mhz - http://bit.ly/v8zFJo (Radioshack - Total: $100) or PNY 1066Mhz - http://bit.ly/v0FAqP (CompUSA/Tigerdirect - Total: $80)
[15:38] <UICTamale> I guess one of my main questions is whether I should be using the open source drivers at all.. with my last laptop I had to use fglrx
[15:38] <iceroot> surfdue: ##hardware
[15:38] <scope> please help, does anyone here knows how i can remove these in my ifconfig output: http://pastebin.com/VpkgJUcS
[15:38] <surfdue> cd ##hardware
[15:38] <surfdue> ;)
[15:38] <azertyii> this command is used what kind of purpose ? eval
[15:38] <UICTamale> But I was humming along fine with the open source drivers until 20 minutes ago
[15:38] <Boreeas> Somehow, my flash is all laggy/buggy. Screen freezes every couple of second,  screens to fade correctly...
[15:38] <Boreeas> How can I fix this?
[15:39] <domnic> no i simply want to say read the system requirement before you upgrade ..simply typing command in terminal will end you like this...sorry for this words
[15:39] <llutz> azertyii: i'd think your teacher wants YOU to do your homework, not us
[15:39] <UICTamale> domnic: I thought it was good to always stay up to date
[15:39] <dp> where does ubuntu keep the dm to start (gdm/kdm/xdm/etc) ?
[15:39] <iceroot> domnic: again, we are talking about apt-get upgrade. your sentence does not make any sense
[15:39] <codeforkjeff> hi folks, this morning i updated oneiric to kernel 3.0.0-12 and now i'm getting a kernel error on boot: "CIFS VFS: could not allocate crypto hmacmd5" i have a few CIFS mounts in my fstab. am i missing a dependency or something?
[15:40] <iceroot> UICTamale: maybe "top" is showing what is causing a high load?
[15:40] <azertyii> anyone else ?
[15:40] <iceroot> azertyii: ?
[15:41] <UICTamale> iceroot: overall cpu usage is very low, but X is using almost 90%
[15:41] <UICTamale> command "Xorg"
[15:41] <Pici> azertyii: This channel is not a repalcement for reading manpages.  Maybe You should take a look at a bash programming guide or the guides listed in the topic of #bash
[15:41] <iceroot> UICTamale: any hints in the xorg.log?
[15:41] <UICTamale> [    40.164] (II) RADEON(0): Allocate new frame buffer 3840x1296 stride 3840
[15:41] <UICTamale> [    40.164] (II) RADEON(0): VRAM usage limit set to 210913K
[15:42] <iceroot> UICTamale: is this also in the logs before you did the upgrade?
[15:42] <DrPoO> how do I kill gnome from the command line?
[15:43] <webBuilder> guys I configure dual monitor in ubuntu 11.10 in gnome classig but where there is the pannel on the top of the screen in stead of being as usual now I see that its taking half of the screen. how can I eliminate this problem, I have NVIDia driver on Latitude e6510
[15:43] <UICTamale> oo good idea.. let me check.
[15:43] <shanept> DrPo0: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop
[15:43] <iceroot> DrPoO: sudo servide gdm stop  (or lightdm)
[15:43] <iceroot> !upstart | shanept
[15:43] <shanept> DrPo0: Must be run from terminal NOT gnome-terminal
[15:43] <UICTamale> iceroot: looks like it, yes
[15:43] <shanept> iceroot: Thanks
[15:43] <domnic> UICTamale, sorry for the drift.. can you paste output of ..lspci | grep VGA
[15:43] <iceroot> UICTamale: ok then i dont think its the issue
[15:43] <DrPoO> thanks iceroot
[15:43] <tonyblack> hallo
[15:44] <UICTamale> iceroot: I'm thinking I should try the proprietary AMD driver
[15:44] <iceroot> UICTamale: what is the package-name of the open-source driver you are using?
[15:45] <iceroot> UICTamale: maybe "apt-get changelog packagename" has some usefull infos
[15:45] <UICTamale> xserver-xorg-video-ati
[15:45] <UICTamale> and xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[15:46] <Osmodivs> LINUX Kernel Update is here!!
[15:46] <szal> UICTamale: what card exactly are you talking about?
[15:46] <iceroot> UICTamale: last changed 11.08.2011
[15:46] <iceroot> UICTamale: both
[15:46] <Osmodivs> Kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.15 FTW!!
[15:46] <iceroot> UICTamale: on 11.10
[15:46] <orated> !gpt
[15:46] <Osmodivs> Oh... there is a 3.1 version already available?
[15:47] <UICTamale> I have the firepro m8900
[15:47] <codeforkjeff> no one else seeing CIFS errors on 11.10 after upgrade to 3.0.0-12?
[15:47] <Osmodivs> Well... I use UBUNTU
[15:47] <szal> Osmodivs: won't be, at least not for Oneiric
[15:47] <webBuilder> you know what
[15:47] <webBuilder> I'm going to try mint
[15:47] <UICTamale> szal:  I just downloaded ati-driver-installer-11-11-x86.x86_64.run
[15:47] <webBuilder> I'm tired of this ubuntu
[15:48] <Osmodivs> szal: Can Ubuntu Break if I compile the latest Kernel?
[15:48] <szal> UICTamale: that was not the question
[15:48] <orated> How can I use GUID Partition Table method with installer than using default MBR style partitioning scheme?
[15:48] <szal> Osmodivs: I pretty much guess so
[15:48] <Thetawaves> I have a kernel module set in debug mode yet i can not figure out where the messages go, they're not in dmesg, /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log
[15:48] <szal> webBuilder: Mint is just Ubuntu in shinier packaging
[15:48] <UICTamale> szal:  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Blackcomb [AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series] - it's the firepro M8900
[15:48] <Osmodivs> ... I'll stick with Ubuntu's tailored Kernel
[15:49] <Osmodivs> Thank you very much
[15:49] <domnic> UICTamale, uname -a
[15:49] <urthmover> :exit
[15:49] <UICTamale> domnic: Linux tamastation 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:49] <scope> please help, does anyone here knows how i can remove these in my ifconfig output: http://pastebin.com/VpkgJUcS
[15:49] <Jordan_U> orated: If your drive is larger than 2 TiB then GPT will be used by default. If not, then you can get the installer to use gpt by creating a GPT label with GParted first, then installing Ubuntu.
[15:49] <rootux> Where can I find a driver for (Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller) ? -- I already googled it and search on the Broadcom site but I don't find anything.
[15:49] <webBuilder> szal, propably it is but the gui change is not working for me in dual monitor, I ask a question no one answer, they keep creating new OS every freaking 6 month yet the changes do not do other than westing my time
[15:50] <szal> UICTamale: are you sure your card is listed as supported by that driver?
[15:50] <webBuilder> at this point even Windows 7 is great
[15:50] <webBuilder> at list lately doesn't break
[15:50] <sipior> webBuilder: complain elsewhere.
[15:50] <pangur> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and want to put spyder into the list of icons in my launcher panel.  I can run spyder via terminal but would prefer to be able to click on an icon instead.  Any suggestions as to how I might do that, please?
[15:50] <domnic> UICTamale, so what's the big deal to provide uname -a
[15:50] <webBuilder> sipior, this is I think the right place, we are westing time by creating new version every six month common
[15:51] <UICTamale> domnic:  ? I just pasted it
[15:51] <sipior> webBuilder: you're mistaken.
[15:51] <webBuilder> how much time did you really wested in updating upgrading etc...
[15:51] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: This channel is for support, not for unproductive complaining. Good luck with a new OS, but please keep discussion here to productive support questions.
[15:52] <webBuilder> Jordan_U, I really did ask a legitimate problem no one answer except gang banging on my complains
[15:52] <incorrect> what is the performance hit if I was to use a swap file rather than a partition?
[15:52] <phunyguy_> hey folks, is network-manager able to manage bridged connections?
[15:52] <ragnarok> here?
[15:52] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: dont you get it? your input is not about support - so you are somehow in the wrong place to discuss it
[15:52] <phunyguy_> I am trying to set up a virtual machine host with KVM and bridged networking.  I used command line to create the bridge, but then network manager gets upset and stops managing the network.
[15:52] <iceroot> incorrect: partition will be faster (but i dont think you will see the differences)
[15:53] <phunyguy_> including not connecting to my VPN
[15:53] <webBuilder> "here is my legitimate question I have had" guys I configure dual monitor in ubuntu 11.10 in gnome classig but where there is the pannel on the top of the screen in stead of being as usual now I see that its taking half of the screen. how can I eliminate this problem, I have NVIDia driver on Latitude e6510
[15:53] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: If nobody knows the answer to your question then nobody will answer it. That does not give you a right to continue with offtopic and unproductive complaining. This is your last warning to stop.
[15:53] <incorrect> iceroot, i was thinking about using a file on an encrypted partition, rather than using encrypted swap
[15:53] <zykotick9> incorrect, a swap file can also not be used for hibernation
[15:53] <domnic> incorrect, if you have low ram swap will help you till some extend
[15:54] <incorrect> maybe i should just upgrade to 8GB and forget having swap
[15:54] <llutz> there are hibernation-methods working with swap-files. just the default won't
[15:55] <domnic> incorrect, what you really want to do
[15:55] <incorrect> oh yes, 8gb is nothing
[15:55] <UICTamale> I am not sure that the default AMD linux driver includes support for my card. I don't see a list of cards it supports anywhere.  I did however find this page:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/57612/dell-m6600-amd-firepro-m8900-graphics-driver-and-power-issues
[15:56] <incorrect> in terms of cost
[15:56] <sipior> incorrect: you'll want at least some swap, irrespective of ram allotment.
[15:56] <incorrect> sipior, i don't care about hibernate
[15:57] <zykotick9> phunyguy, i'd be surprised if N-M can do bridging stuff, i too use KVM+bridge networking (but no N-M here).  Best of luck, with your N-M VPN you might need it ;)
[15:57] <Thetawaves> incorrect, no performance hit
[15:57] <sipior> incorrect: i wasn't referring to hibernation.
[15:57] <incorrect> why would i want swap with more ram than i can shake a stick at?
[15:57] <phunyguy_> doh... thanks zykotick9
[15:57] <sipior> incorrect: you'll want swap to handle unused memory allocations, to keep them out of ram.
[15:57] <webBuilder> Jordan_U,  since you worned me here is a good question then 1) why there is new version of ubuntu every 6 month, 2) why it's pops up if I do not upgrade to the new version the message every time I start the machine, and yet when I upgrade things are not working, is there a way to stop those messages and stick to the older version
[15:58] <incorrect> sipior, just means they have to swap in if i need them
[15:58] <sipior> incorrect: trading €0.10/GB disk space for €20+/GB ram is not terribly clever.
[15:58]  * pangur is away: Gone away for now
[15:58] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: 1) cause canonical decided too -  2) cause you havent reconfigured the behaviour
[15:58] <odb|fidel> simple isnt it?
[15:58] <JHH> I need help installing epson printer packages. I have downloaded the correct ones from the internet but I'm a newb and have no idea how to install them. shopuld they appear in additional drivers?
[15:58] <sipior> incorrect: ideally, they'll never actually be written to disk (they are allocated but not used)
[15:59] <scope> exit
[15:59] <phunyguy_> another issue I am having is VNC connections, I can connect to a remote machine, and see the screen updating, but mouse and keyboard movements are not sent.  ("View Only" is NOT selected)
[15:59] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: some call it release-cycle (regarding 1))
[16:00] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: 1) Is not a support question, please stop asking. 2) I don't know of a way to stop those messages other than installing an LTS release of Ubuntu and making sure that only LTS Releases prompt for upgrades (the default if you originally installed an LTS release).
[16:01] <zykotick9> phunyguy, does the box you're connecting to have compiz running?  if so, try disabling compiz and see if VNC works then.
[16:01] <JHH> I need help installing epson printer packages. I have downloaded the correct ones from the internet but I'm a newb and have no idea how to install them. shopuld they appear in additional drivers?
[16:01] <webBuilder> Jordan_U,  and odb|fidel thanks for the answer specially the answer of 2
[16:01] <phunyguy_> zykotick9, I can see the desktop and see stuff happening on the screen, just can't click.
[16:02] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: Note that even though I don't know of any other way, I'm sure there is one. But keep in mind that you will need to upgrade eventually when the Ubuntu version you're running goes EOL.
[16:02] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: You're welcome.
[16:02] <zykotick9> phunyguy, yes i know - i read it the first time ;)
[16:02] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: start 'Software sources' and reconfigure the checks how you like em
[16:02] <phunyguy_> zykotick9, can compiz be disabled with unity?
[16:02] <pangur> I have installed spyder on my Ubuntu 11.10 and can run it by typing "spyder" in terminal.  I would like to have it as an icon in my launcher instead.  How do I do that?
[16:02] <zykotick9> phunyguy_, nope
[16:02] <phunyguy_> and I would love to disable it but i can't click.
[16:02] <odb|fidel> there is really no need to be notified as long as you care yourself manually about updates then
[16:02] <phunyguy_> lol
[16:02] <genii-around> webBuilder: If you don't want to see any distribution upgrade notices, make sure you have Prompt=never in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:02] <phunyguy_> I am at work, and that box is at home
[16:02] <webBuilder> Jordan_U, is there a way manually edit the GUI of Ubuntu gnome classic it's taking half of the screen
[16:02] <webBuilder> genii-around, Thank you
[16:03] <vibhav> pangur: Is spyder a graphical app?
[16:03] <pangur> it is an ide
[16:03] <topriddy> what does The following packages have unmet dependecies mean?? i seem to be getting it for every single apt-get install command i run.
[16:04] <odb|fidel> topriddy: which part is confusing you of the message?
[16:04] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: Please address questions to the entire channel rather than directing them to me.
[16:04] <genii-around> topriddy: Are you running apt-get update before the apt-get install ?
[16:04] <webBuilder> Thank you so much to all of you for trying to help. even tho I sounded to you a bit complainer
[16:04] <topriddy> genii-around: i did that update before. i am simply testing installing of vlc now.
[16:04] <vibhav> pangur: Assuming it is a graphical app , you can drag it to the desktop from the dash
[16:04] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: You're welcome.
[16:05] <javier_faj> Hi! I have a problem with Ubuntu Virtualbox running windows 7. I have mounted my ubuntu home profile, and I can explore it normally. But, if I open a program (microsoft word, for example) and open an explorer (for open a file, save a file, whatever) it goes extremelly slow. I think the reason is that I see my "home folder" (which is detected as an unit) marked as disconnected, but can't change that. Someone knows how can I fix this? Thanks!
[16:05] <topriddy> odb|fidel: I am wondering why it wont just install dependencies and let me be.
[16:05] <Gentoo64> topriddy: you could try changing the mirror
[16:05] <pangur>  /me tries vibhav's advice
[16:05] <usuario> olA
[16:05] <topriddy> Gentoo64: mirror? i thought we could have several repos url in ubuntu?
[16:06] <pangur> OK, that worked, thanks, vibhav :)
[16:06] <genii-around> topriddy: sudo apt-get update grabs the most updated list of packages. So if you run it just before trying to install something, the packages will have much less chance of unmet dependencies.
[16:06] <usuario> OLAAA
[16:06] <vibhav> pangur: :)
[16:06] <zykotick9> !es | usuario
[16:06] <genii-around> topriddy: This also happens if you you have for instance a mix of packages from PPAs
[16:06] <pangur> Vibhav, supplementary question: Can I edit the icon that was generated?
[16:07] <topriddy> genii-around: i added a ppa:XXXX to repos, it keeps giving Not Found error everytime i run an update. i think i should remove it, but not sure how
[16:08] <pangur> Is there a way of editing/replacing icons in launcher?
[16:08] <SeaWookie> pangur: try system, preferences, main menu
[16:08] <genii-around> topriddy: Any PPAs you added will be in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  .. you can ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   to get the name it has there for it, then sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whatever-ppa-name-is.list
[16:08] <orated> Jordan_U: Is MBR way the default style of partitioning used by Ubuntu? How much space I should assign when using GParted to create GPT before installation? Is there any proper place of HDD it needs allocation or can be kept in the end, middle? Can it be allocated on second HDD with OS on other drive?
[16:08] <pangur> ty SeaWookie :)
[16:09] <SeaWookie> pangur: yw hope it helps
[16:09] <genii-around> topriddy: Then of course sudo apt-get update ... to update the internal list of whats available
[16:09] <domnic> pangur, decorations :((
[16:10] <pangur> SeaWookie: I can find system settings but neither preferences nor main menu ... eek!
[16:10] <pangur> Decorations, domnic?
[16:11] <Gentoo64> pangur: that might be for gnome2
[16:11] <SeaWookie> pangur: what version of ubuntu?
[16:11] <pangur> 11.10
[16:12] <pangur> To be honest, I preferred the classic ubuntu to this dash stuff.
[16:12]  * pangur is a migrant from M$ Windows.
[16:13] <Gentoo64> almost everyone hates the dash
[16:13] <pangur> I was scared to say in case I offended someone.
[16:13] <domnic> Gentoo64, `dash...? is it bash
[16:13] <Andy80> is there any known problem in sharing a /home between two Ubuntu installations (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Ubuntu 11.10) in particular about different configuration/settings due to different packages versions?
[16:13] <SeaWookie> pangur: ah ok you have unity
[16:14] <pangur> Yeah Unity.
[16:14] <Gentoo64> Andy80: i wouldnt
[16:14] <pangur> However, I am eager to move to something more intuitive for me.
[16:14] <SeaWookie> pangur: i didnt like it so stayed at 10...let me look
[16:14] <pangur> Not eager to go back to 10 though :)
[16:14] <Gentoo64> Andy80: /home should only be a few MB anyway unless you store videos or whatever in there
[16:14] <Gentoo64> pangur: theres other variants of ubuntu with different desktops
[16:15] <xangua> !nounity | pangur
[16:15] <pangur> This was the default wubi installation.
[16:15] <xangua> there are also kde, xfde, lxde...
[16:15] <Andy80> Gentoo64: well... my /home is lot of Gb since it contains pictures, video, documents ecc...
[16:15] <Gentoo64> look at kubuntu, it looks a bit like windows 7
[16:15] <domnic> Andy80, please tell the problem to session ..
[16:15] <Gentoo64> Andy80: well if the apps are different versions, then itll mess up the configs. i would make a partition/drive for the pics and vids and share that
[16:16] <pangur> Thanks xangua and Gentoo64.
[16:16] <Andy80> domnic: what do you mean exactly?
[16:16] <Andy80> Gentoo64: ok, understand... thanks
[16:17] <domnic> Andy80, please elaborate you question
[16:17] <Gentoo64> domnic: he has...
[16:18] <domnic> Gentoo64, i need more specification before i can comment ...
[16:18] <Gentoo64> his question has already been answered
[16:18] <Andy80> yeah
[16:18] <topriddy> genii-around: i just did that  now. now there is absolutely  nothing at all in my sources.list.d folder
[16:18] <zykotick9> Andy80, sharing home between two different installs can certainly lead to issue (but might not) - it's certainly a risk for breaking the ~/.* config files for both installs (you've been warned, now do as you want)
[16:18] <domnic> Gentoo64, thanks .. :)))
[16:18] <b0ot> What is the best way to get php 5 and apache 2 running on ubuntu 10.04
[16:19] <Andy80> zykotick9: thanks to you too :)
[16:19] <topriddy> genii-around: i still cant install vlc though, :(
[16:19] <b0ot> I saw the command "sudo apt-get install lamp-server" but I wasn't sure how well that worked
[16:19] <somsip_> b0ot: just install them separately. It's worked fine for me
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> b0ot  try tasksel
[16:19] <zykotick9> !lamp | b0ot
[16:19] <genii-around> topriddy: Can you pastebin the output from trying to install it?
[16:19] <quixotedon> linthesia isn't working, anybody uses linthesia?
[16:20] <b0ot> !taskel
[16:20] <b0ot> !tasksel
[16:20] <Andy80> I'll just reinstall 11.10 from scratch, since upgrading from 11.04 really made my system unusable
[16:20] <iceroot> b0ot: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[16:20] <zykotick9> b0ot, tasksel is a program "sudo tasksel"
[16:20] <jww> hi.
[16:20] <domnic> genii-around, only the extension of the file is enough
[16:20] <genii-around> domnic: ?
[16:21] <topriddy> genii-around: please can you tell me what irc app is available on my ubuntu 11 by default? i cant easily pastebin, am using irc on windows and doing admin work on another linux system
[16:21] <jww> does someone know if it's possible to have nautilus doesn't try to keep the same rights when copying a file ?
[16:21] <Gentoo64> jww as in what?
[16:21] <genii-around> topriddy: I believe it's Empathy
[16:22] <Gentoo64> if you copy a file from /hom as root, itll be owned by root
[16:22] <domnic> genii-around, to my knowledge you are trying to install some package
[16:22] <jww> like if I was using cp, not providing -p parameter.
[16:22] <Gentoo64> domnic: whats your native language?
[16:22] <javier_faj> hi: I have problems in ubuntu oracle virtualbox running windows 7. Shared folders are disconnected and it goes very slow
[16:22] <domnic> Gentoo64, does that matter..
[16:22] <genii-around> domnic: No. topriddy is trying to install vlc but getting some dependency errors. I am trying to assist them by having them pastebin their errors so it can be examined.
[16:23] <b0ot> sudo tasksel install lamp-server fails
[16:23] <Gentoo64> domnic: well you dont seem to understand anything
[16:23] <jww> Gentoo64: I dunno if I was clear.
[16:23] <fission6> how do i allow mongodb to write a folder, i get permission denied
[16:24] <genii-around> topriddy: You could also install pastebinit   then do like: sudo apt-get install vlc | pastebinit   ... then just give the url
[16:24] <domnic> Gentoo64, so you figured you the language instead..its a good community simply don't go for it..i keep it that way
[16:24] <Gentoo64> well, i didnt understand that either
[16:25] <fission6> how do i allow a user to write to a folder on a mounted driver
[16:25] <b0ot> it's working after an update
[16:25] <b0ot> but it says 20 minutes to install
[16:25] <b0ot> ... for a lamp-server
[16:27] <Gentoo64> fission try sudo
[16:28] <uictamale> Hello everyone.. unfortunately I'm not having much luck with the proprietary drivers either.. All transparency looks garbled, I can't use the HDMI out, and font antialiasing is so broken I can't read most fonts.
[16:28] <uictamale> So my choices are extremely slow open-source, or broken propreitary?
[16:28] <phunyguy_> can anyone tell me how to specify MORE DHCP options for Qemu/libvirt?  I need to specify DNS search suffix for guests.  Thanks
[16:28] <uictamale> bbiab
[16:29] <llutz> fission6: what filesystem? either use correct mount-options on non-unix fs or adjust ownership/permissions on unix-fs
[16:29] <fission6> can someone help me with changing permissions so that a user can write to a mount
[16:29] <Gentoo64> fission6: try sudo
[16:29] <Gentoo64> if it says permission denied
[16:29] <xangua> uictamale: you coult use no accelerate solutions like unity-2d or gnome fallback mode
[16:29] <jww> don't use the name of root in vain.
[16:30] <fission6> no i am running mongodb and i get a permissions issue, i think the user mongodb needs to be able to twrite to the folder i configued the db for
[16:30] <jww> fission6: don't try sudo, try understanding what's going on.
[16:30] <fission6> i am not sure how to give the right permissions, do i add a group or what/
[16:30] <llutz> fission6:  adjust ownership/permissions on unix-fs
[16:30] <fission6> i know whats going on, mongod use needs r+w for the folder
[16:30] <Gentoo64> jww: i thought he meant to a normal mount
[16:30] <Gentoo64> then sudo would be right
[16:30] <llutz> Gentoo64: nonsense
[16:30] <fission6> sudo what?
[16:31] <Gentoo64> llutz: ?
[16:31] <jww> fission6: sudo nothing, show us the command you type, and the error message.
[16:31] <fission6> i just need to make the user mongod be able to read and write to.from /the/db/path
[16:31] <llutz> Gentoo64: using sudo is nonsense. he just has to configure permissions and ownership correctly
[16:31] <fission6> Unable to create/open lock file: /space/mongodb/db/mongod.lock errno:13 Permission denied Is a mongod instance already running?, terminating
[16:31] <fission6> and no, its not running
[16:31] <llutz> Gentoo64: that what file-permissions are for.
[16:31] <kyubutsu> fission6: add the user to the group the folder belongs to
[16:32] <Gentoo64> llutz: well yeah you could chmod or chown, but thats not always the best way. sometimes you want to keep stuff owned by root
[16:32] <jww> fission6: so what does ls -l /space/mongodb/db do ?
[16:32] <llutz> Gentoo64: not in this case.
[16:32] <fission6> jww total 0, but i am a different user then what mongo runs under
[16:32] <domnic> Gentoo64, you really don't require those command in ubuntu..
[16:32] <Gentoo64> domnic: good luck never using sudo
[16:33] <IRSteveB> Got a weird problem with a new ubuntu install.  I have a bunch of makefiles that output ANSI terminal codes, ex. 'echo -e "\e[36;1mBlah\e[0m"'.  These work fine on my other systems but in make under Ubuntu it loses the esc/formatting (from the command line the same echo works fine).  Any ideas?
[16:33] <domnic> Gentoo64, don't give advance command to new user..
[16:33] <fission6> kyubutsu: i think you are right, how do i do that
[16:33] <Gentoo64> domnic: stop troling
[16:33] <Pici> domnic: You aren't being helpful here. Please stop.
[16:34] <fission6> guys settle down, i just need to either add the user to the group or change ownership, i dont know which one is "best"
[16:34] <domnic> Gentoo64, ok.. only looking ..sorry
[16:34] <Gentoo64> fission6: add your user to the mongo group
[16:34] <CloudQc> Hey all
[16:34] <Gentoo64> fission6: sorry at first i thought mongo was your normal username :)
[16:35] <fission6> there is no mongo group i dont believe
[16:35] <MVanDruff> so does anyone know how to get virtual box to boot my windows xp partition
[16:35] <CloudQc> When using a KVM with Ubuntu - my graphic drivers do not seem to load properly if I the KVM is not pointing to the Ubuntu PC. Is this a known problem and is there a workaround?
[16:35] <fission6> i just want to change the /space/mongo folder so that the user mongod can read and write - thats all
[16:36] <Gentoo64> fission6: chown -R
[16:36] <szal> MVanDruff: perhaps the folks in #vbox know
[16:36] <theadmin> MVanDruff: Easy.
[16:36] <fission6> Gentoo64: do i want to do that or change the group
[16:37] <jiffe98> is there a command line method of exporting ufw rules?
[16:37] <cyrax> hi guys do u know some channel that speaks about python ?
[16:37] <theadmin> MVanDruff: Which hard drive is it on? And, are you using Virtualbox in Linux or Windows?
[16:37] <Gentoo64> fission6: chown -R mongo:mongo /folder would make the owner mongo
[16:37] <soreau> CloudQc: In some cases, the gpu needs to be plugged into an output for the drivers to probe the edid and select a mode
[16:37] <theadmin> cyrax: #python
[16:37] <cyrax> thank u..
[16:40] <MVanDruff> the admin its sdb1 and i am running the virtualbox in linux
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> good morning/afternoon/night!
[16:40] <jww> hi SolarisBoy
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> hey jww
[16:40] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: vbox wont boot a real partition
[16:40] <jww> heh guys nobody know I can prevent nautilus to keep the same rights on files ?
[16:40] <jww> it's a pain.
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> jww: nautilus is changing permissions on your files?
[16:41] <MVanDruff> Gentoo64, I want to boot the secondary os while in linux i am tired of having to restart for my wife
[16:41] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: youll have to make a vbox disk and install it again
[16:41] <jww> SolarisBoy: yes, when I copy over a sftp share, it try to keep rights like on the original file.
[16:42] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: otherwise youll have to reboot and dual boot
[16:42] <fission6> i think what i should do is create a group and make the group have read write on /space/mongo, right?
[16:42] <Gentoo64> fission6: yeah you could
[16:42] <Gentoo64> fission6: if its for something specific
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[16:43] <MVanDruff> Gentoo64, do you meen that i can run them simultaneously
[16:43] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: no
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> jww: how do you copy the files (using nautilus or something i guess? as normal user?) and who are they owned by initially?
[16:43] <fission6> Gentoo64: okay how would i change group for a folder
[16:43] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: if you wana use vbox, youll have to reinstall the OS in a vbov hdd
[16:44] <Gentoo64> fission6: chown user:group
[16:44] <fission6> ok
[16:44] <sniz-> on a wubi install... is it possible to add an entry into grub for another OS?
[16:44] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: youll have to do it that way
[16:44] <sniz-> from within windows that is
[16:44] <jww> SolarisBoy: I do it with nautilus, own is called ferrero  and rights are 755. on the sftp server I have a umask of 002, so file should be 775 when incoming.
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> MVanDruff: is the system you want to virtualize windows?
[16:45] <jww> SolarisBoy: but it's 755 still
[16:45] <MVanDruff> SolarisBoy, yes but it is an exsisting system
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> MVanDruff: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> you can try this im not sure how well it works on windows but you can convert a disk image to a virtual disk
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> or a disk -> disk image -> virtual disk
[16:46] <Gentoo64> easier to install from scratch tbh
[16:46] <Gentoo64> dno if win would even boot
[16:46] <Gentoo64> goes by the mobo bios etc
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> trueness
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> yep they cover that in the how too as well though and prewarn in those cases
[16:47] <Gentoo64> then youd have to uninstall/reinstall drivers guest additions blah
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> yea... just a note that it is remotely possible
[16:47] <Gentoo64> ive heard of it too
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> but Gentoo64 is defintely right,, probably waaay easier to reinstall
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> s/probably//g
[16:48] <Gentoo64> which is ncurses like
[16:49] <gmachine_24> Greetings. A dual-boot desktop (Win7HomePremium64bit + Ubuntu NN) won't boot - just goes to grub rescue> prompt with a blinking cursor.
[16:50] <kyubutsu> reinstall grub using livecd
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> im having an issue with my monitor frequency && can't see anything past boot loader taking over on a system,, its a two headed issue, as i ran into it on a reboot gone bad,, not sure if im fscking or some error but i can't get a successful boot up and need to access the system console directly,, however the monitor frequency issue is impeding me as i can't see... i was able to install ubuntu to a SD card and i can boot the "live CD" from there.. i can se
[16:53] <gmachine_24> kyubutsu, and exactly how do I do that?
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> jww wouldn't your umask on the destination need to be set to adhere to your perm settings?
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> jww e.g. the mask on the target host you are copying *to*
[16:54] <DexterF> hi
[16:54] <DexterF> what package do I need to have video previews in gThumb?
[16:55] <DexterF> video thumbnails that is
[16:55] <kyubutsu> gmachine_24: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub    <-- there is some info to get you started
[16:55] <LemonAid> Hello. Is there any other way to restart the network except "/etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[16:55] <LemonAid> I mean the interfaces.
[16:56] <scorinitron> Hey guys I lost my IRC password what do I do?
[16:56] <theadmin> scorinitron: Contact #freenode people
[16:57] <scorinitron> theadmin, Thanks Man, Highly Appreciated
[17:00] <phunyguy_> can anyone tell me how to specify MORE DHCP options for Qemu/libvirt?  I need to specify DNS search suffix for guests.  Thanks
[17:00] <tables> what can i use to convert video files to mp4 to put on my ipod?
[17:00] <piedro> can anyone help me to find the file mysql-global.conf in ubuntu (or the corresponding one ...)
[17:01] <theadmin> tables: Try winff
[17:01] <iceroot> piedro: /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[17:02] <piedro> thx! can I use the same entries and variables to configure it like the normal mysql-global.conf?
[17:03] <Kim4x> LemonAid: what do you wnat exactly? did you look at ifdown / ifup ?
[17:03] <iceroot> piedro: never heard of mysql-global.conf
[17:04] <piedro> ok, thx, can I use things like "wiat_timeout=" ?
[17:04] <piedro> "wait_timeout", sorrry
[17:04] <iceroot> piedro: i dont know, read the manual or ask #mysql or just try it
[17:04] <ToeTag> Anyone able to give advice on using netbootin to get a 'live cd' of lubuntu going?
[17:05] <scorinitron> anybody heard of Backtrack?
[17:05] <iceroot> ToeTag: the same as for ubuntu
[17:05] <llutz> piedro: you mean /etc/mysql/my-conf ?
[17:05] <llutz> my.conf even
[17:05] <xangua> !backtrack | scorinitron
[17:05] <scorinitron> I just caught wind of it while looking for linux distros
[17:05] <oCean> scorinitron: sure. They have their own channel #backtrack-linux
[17:05] <ToeTag> iceroot, i've done the install and when i boot i get a menu, but nothing like "try without installing"
[17:05] <piedro> ok thx a lot! I'll try!!! :-)
[17:06] <scorinitron> what's the command to sign in to your irc nick
[17:06] <scorinitron> I forgot
[17:06] <scorinitron> :)
[17:06] <ToeTag> iceroot, what i mean is i've used netbootin to make a bootable usb from a lubuntu iso, and all the options seem to be for 'install'...i just want to run it live
[17:06] <nasrix> hello
[17:06] <sskniranjan> is there any way to restore the ubuntu as it was in windows restore
[17:07] <ToeTag> anyone familiar with using netbootin?
[17:07] <xangua> sskniranjan: that depends, do you have your home in a separate partition¿
[17:07] <iceroot> ToeTag: i dont know if there is a live-cd from lubuntu
[17:07] <Tinybird> Hi, all
[17:07] <adam_vollrath> How do I take a screenshot of what's running in LightDM from the command line?
[17:08] <Tinybird> I want to use command line without X windows system, what should I do?
[17:08] <adam_vollrath> I can't get ImageMagick's `import` to do so.
[17:08] <adam_vollrath> Tinybird: minimal install
[17:08] <gmachine_24> kyubutsu, many thanks
[17:08] <ToeTag> iceroot, i was trying to install the latest version of the distro, do the "live cd"s usually lag behind the regular release of the OS?
[17:08] <adam_vollrath> ToeTag: you update/upgrade after you install, of course.
[17:09] <selim_> takos tu est la
[17:09] <ToeTag> adam_vollrath, i'm trying to get a live cd going - but all of the options seem to be for install
[17:09] <sskniranjan> is there any way to restore ubuntu
[17:09] <xangua> (11:07:35) xangua: sskniranjan: that depends, do you have your home in a separate partition¿
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> restre what exactly?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> restore*
[17:10] <Tinybird> adam_vollrath: thanks for your advice. But I have install ubuntu desktop version, how can I enter the command line without gnome?
[17:10] <sskniranjan> no i had the same partion
[17:10] <sskniranjan> actually i had made no partition
[17:10] <nitro282> #ubuntu-it
[17:10] <scratchingmyhead> without opening the box, how can I tell how much memory I have?
[17:10] <golden_axe> hi how can i change the language of noscript for firefox?
[17:11] <iceroot> scratchingmyhead: free -m, cat /proc/meminfo, top
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> scratchingmyhead  free -m
[17:11] <scratchingmyhead> thx
[17:12] <adam_vollrath> scratchingmyhead: lshw
[17:13] <zainu> ooooling
[17:14] <scratchingmyhead> total mem 3266 ??? How many gigs is that
[17:14] <scratchingmyhead> how to find the total Ram Mem?
[17:15] <scratchingmyhead> the boards
[17:15] <lnb> is there a command to install the current apps on a 11.04 if one reinstalls to latest Ubuntu?
[17:15] <scratchingmyhead> im thinking I have 3gigs of working mem     and I right?
[17:15] <oCean> scratchingmyhead: little over 3GB apparently. Try   sudo lshw -C memory  to see details
[17:15] <scratchingmyhead> oCean thanks
[17:17] <The_BROS> Are there anybody who plays Nexuis? When play this game, my screen jumps sometimes. How can I fix it?
[17:18] <tables> theadmin, how do you convert to ipod format with this thing?
[17:18] <tables> there's alot of options, but i don't see mp4 or ipod
[17:18] <theadmin> tables: It has mp4...   Handbrake (PPA available) would be able to however.
[17:24] <Tinybird> ubottu: Thank you very much!
[17:24] <kierkkadon> So when trying to add icons to a panel, how do I add them to one panel, but not the other?
[17:24] <kierkkadon> When I select 'add to panel' it adds them to the wrong panel
[17:24] <kierkkadon> (in kubuntu plasma desktop)
[17:25] <Tinybird> ubottu: such a clever AI!
[17:25] <ubuntu> Hello, sorry what is the Italian channel?
[17:25] <zykotick9> !it | ubuntu
[17:30] <daz_rsa> hi guys
[17:30] <daz_rsa> anyone know a decent amount about evolution mail?
[17:31] <daz_rsa> try to get my contact from version 2.3.0 to 3.2.1 on ubuntu 11.10
[17:32] <daz_rsa> hmmmmm not hey?
[17:33] <pepee> hi. latest ati driver (11.11 from amd website) broke suspend/resume: I get a black screen, but the DE continues to work
[17:34] <iceroot> what is the common way to search which source-file is in which source-package?
[17:34] <voltage> sudo apt-get install
[17:35] <broglin> I have a pinned package and I want to unpin it. But I forgot how to do that. Any ideas?
[17:36] <broglin> google seems to think that /etc/apt/preferences is the answer, but I don't have such a file
[17:36] <pikaciu> iceroot; try looking  in the src dir
[17:36] <karlw> What is the "enterprise" way of installing Sun Java now that its been removed from the official ppa's ?
[17:36] <iceroot> pikaciu: ....
[17:36] <iceroot> pikaciu: in every from the whole repo?
[17:37] <pikaciu> iceroot; try looking  in the src dir
[17:37] <pikaciu> iceroot: sorry
[17:37] <iceroot> pikaciu: you dont get what i want. i am searching for something like "apt-file" but for source-packages
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> karlw  i think PPA's are unofficial sources
[17:38] <iceroot> karlw: downloading it directly from oracle
[17:38] <iceroot> karlw: its the only legal way
[17:38] <fellayaboy> how can i edit the options thru ssh on my remote desktop..im trying to uncheck you must confirm
[17:38] <fellayaboy> and a few other options
[17:38] <Kimble> Hi. When attempting to edit /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode with sudo vim, I always get an E667: Fsync failed error.  The only answer i've found so far is that it's a disk space error, but the drive has over 70GB free space. Suggestions?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> options of what?
[17:38] <xangua> karlw: check webupd8 oneiric tweak post, there is a ppa for java6 and manual install instructions for java7
[17:38] <karlw> iceroot, Aha.. sounds cumbersome
[17:38] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <iceroot> karlw: say thank you to oracle
[17:39] <oCean> iceroot: can't you just use apt-file and then search the corresponding source package?
[17:39] <oCean> iceroot: (I'm not 100% percent sure what you're after)
[17:40] <iceroot> oCean: i am searching in what kernel-package a specific file is
[17:40] <karlw> oracle makes my stomach turn... feels like java only can go downhill from here
[17:40] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[17:40] <iceroot> oCean: i dont really get the difference between linux-header, linux-source, linux-image and so on
[17:41] <zykotick9> Kimble, the /proc filesystem is virtual - you can used editors on it
[17:41] <zykotick9> s/used/use/
[17:42] <Kimble> aha, ok. I'm not familiar with virtual fs.  So, how do I edit this file?
[17:42] <zykotick9> Kimble, it's not a file - it's a value
[17:43] <oCean> iceroot: the source is the actual kernel sourcefiles, header files contain reusable code (declarations/classes) which can be used with other code that needs compiling. The -image is the compiled binary
[17:43] <oCean> iceroot: but those are not source packages.
[17:44] <Kimble> zykotick9: aha, I see what you're driving at. Ok, what's the suggested method for modifying such values?
[17:45] <zykotick9> Kimble, you might be able to echo something to it?  What are you trying to do?  It's kinda non-standard to want to do such things.
[17:45] <conntrack> tcp is broken
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> :/proc file system resides in memory AFAIK
[17:45] <topriddy> how do i even know if a camera i plugged in is supported by a llinux system?
[17:45] <Kimble> I'm trying to turn on laptop_mode in my kernel, as I'm running Ubuntu Server 11.10 on a laptop.  Changing this value from 0 to 5 is the reported way.
[17:45] <iceroot> oCean: i thought when i want to rebuild a kernel i am just picking apt the source-file with apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)  do some patching and build it up again
[17:45] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to compile a python package  (PIL) and it says ZLIB support is not available, which I need for PNG support.  Does anyone know the ubuntu packages needed to get this working?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> Kimble: try to echo the value into the file if thats really what you need to do
[17:46] <galvao> I'm looking for performance tips, related to my post at ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1884480 Can anyone shed some light on this?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> Kimble: /proc file system resides in memory so vim may be reporting errors regarding that,, its not really on a disk
[17:46] <pepee> topriddy, check if it's being recognized
[17:46] <zykotick9> Kimble, <warning this could possibly be wrong> "sudo echo 5 > /proc/whateveritis"
[17:46] <Kimble> SolarisBoy: I've tried echoing.  it fails even with sudo.
[17:46] <Kimble> permission denied error.
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> you may not be able to write to that file as you are trying than
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> well you can do tee -a
[17:47] <Kimble> just so you know, this is a change suggested by the Ubuntu documentation.
[17:47] <trism> savid: probably need zlib1g-dev (although PIL is in the repos, python-imaging package)
[17:47] <Kimble> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> echo something | sudo tee -a /proc/wherever/file
[17:47] <iceroot> oCean: so i dont get the difference between "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" and "apt-get install linux-source-3.0.0"
[17:47] <iceroot> oCean: if i am correct, both contains the uncompiled kernel
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> or don't append rather...
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> over write
[17:48] <Kimble> ah, so ignore the -a switch then.
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> echo something | sudo tee /proc/wherever/file
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> yes
[17:48] <savid> trism,  I'm installing PIL within a virtualenv,  which is why I need the dev packages.  I have zlib1g-dev installed.  Any ideas why it wouldn't be working?
[17:48] <Kimble> trying now...
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> OR try the same echo command as root.. either or should work for you
[17:48] <savid> trism, this is ubuntu Natty, btw
[17:49] <fellayaboy> is their a way to see all the options for /desktop/gnome/remote_access???
[17:49] <trism> savid: if you pastebin the output with the errors, I'll take a look, but otherwise I don't know
[17:49] <Kimble> SolarisBoy: that did the trick. Thank you.
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> welcome
[17:50] <trism> savid: you could also try: sudo apt-get build-dep python-imaging;
[17:50] <KiraNightmare> sh
[17:50] <trism> savid: although probably gets you more than you need
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> is there a way to make mountd/nfs client reread fstab on the fly?
[17:51] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy, "sudo mount -a" will remount everything in fstab
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> but it's not using the new updated options on my NFS shares =(
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> i read a couple of articles referncing thats a buggy type behaviour or w/e
[17:52] <urthmover> when I start this 11.10 system normally from grub.  I get a clank screen.  When I select recovery mode from the grub menu, mount my disk, and resume I get to a prompt.  How do I troubleshoot this?
[17:52] <orated> Is MBR way the default style of partitioning used by Ubuntu? How much space I should assign when using GParted to create GPT before installation? Is there any proper place in HDD it needs allocation or can be kept in the end, middle? Can it be allocated on second HDD with OS on other drive?
[17:52] <urthmover> clank=blank
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: so was wondering if any other tricks existed.. i updated fstab on 20+ hosts and i know it works fine if i unmount and mount,, but they are in prod and i dont want to do it like that if i dont have to..
[17:53] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy, sorry don't have a solution for that... good luck.
[17:53] <urlin2u> urthmover, `what is yoir graphic card?
[17:53] <urlin2u> your*
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: no worries
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: thanks by the way
[17:55]  * SolarisBoy wishes mount --refresh-nfs-shares existed
[17:55] <savid> trism, http://pastie.org/2899033
[17:55] <tables> what do i use to upload mp4 to my iphone?
[17:55] <pikaciu> iceroot: have you tried  $ apt-file list packagename
[17:56] <savid> trism,  I have setup_site.py in the virtualenv's site-packages directory,  which has the following contents:  http://pastie.org/2899037
[17:56] <savid> trism, also, the file  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so   exists.
[17:56] <urlin2u> orated, I don't think gparted even recognizes gpt
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: i was questioning if this would work 'mount -i remount <share>'
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: turns out it does
[17:56] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy, nice
[17:57] <zykotick9> tables, did winff fail?
[17:57] <zykotick9> tables, or upload is the issue?
[17:57] <orated> urlin2u: How can I use GUID Partition Table method with installer than using default MBR style partitioning scheme?
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> %s/-i/-o/ ;  =( .. need some more coffeez
[17:57] <urlin2u> orated, I have no idea.
[17:58] <tables> zykotick9, i don't know how to transfer files to mp4 with it
[17:58] <DrPoO> I have several computers using Ubuntu and I would like to be able to share files across them. What would you recommend using? NFS? WebDAV?
[17:58] <tables> ipod compatible mp4
[17:58] <iceroot> pikaciu: sorry you still dont get what i need but thank you
[17:58] <zykotick9> tables, try Handbrake - there is a PPA (use "/msg ubottu PPA" for info on PPAs)
[17:58] <thelarrousse> hi
[17:58] <tables> k
[17:59] <usuario> hi I just
[17:59] <thelarrousse> hi everybody
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> i collect old larousse's
[17:59] <urthmover> urlin2u: it's a nvidia pci fx5200
[17:59] <urlin2u> orated, there is a mod at the ubuntu forums quite familiar with this stuff that is on everyday posting there would be a way to go.
[17:59] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | urthmover
[18:00] <urthmover> urlin2u: I have tried to disable https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Nouveau#Disabling_nouveau  and have compiled and installed the proprietary nvidia drivers
[18:00] <urlin2u> urthmover, try the nomodeset options in the links
[18:00] <thelarrousse> xd
[18:00] <urthmover> urlin2u: ok trying that now
[18:00] <usuario> upgraded to latest ubuntu and only have access to it via vncserver, and I think this is the unity thinbg but it does not give me a program menu, I successfully ran "xhost +" then "export DISPLAY=:1" and opened up a terminal on GUI, but how can I get a menu? right click on the top bar does not respond, and there is no side bar :s
[18:01] <urlin2u> urthmover, that is the full extent of my experience very little with cards, nomodeset is just a low graphic boot
[18:01] <urthmover> urlin2u: ok thanks
[18:01] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to install PIL within a virtualenv.  I'm getting "ZLIB (PNG/ZIP) support not available".  Does anyone know what packages I need in ubuntu to support this?
[18:02] <savid> I have zlib1g-dev installed.  Thought that was it, but PIL isn't seeing it.
[18:02] <zykotick9> urlin2u, well, nomodeset isn't really "low graphics boot"... it doesn't use KMS(or KMV) kernel drivers really
[18:02] <trism> savid: you should probably mention you're installing it with pip, since zlib1g-dev is the correct package, so the problem is actually that pip isn't finding it it seems
[18:03] <tables> zykotick9, the PPA doesn't work
[18:03] <savid> doh, meant to type that in #pip
[18:03] <zykotick9> tables, that's too bad.  Well, best of luck.
[18:03] <urlin2u> zykotick9, cool as I said I know very little in this amongst many other areas. :D
[18:03] <tables> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:03] <tables>  handbrake-gtk : Depends: libnotify1 (>= 0.5.0) but it is not installable
[18:03] <tables>                  Depends: libnotify1-gtk2.10
[18:03] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:03] <Chaz6> Hi there, I have a problem with flashplugin-installer
[18:03] <Chaz6> --2011-11-21 18:02:57--  http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz
[18:03] <thelarrousse> this chat, is to help about ubuntu?
[18:03] <Chaz6> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[18:03] <Nisk_> Hello, how do you edit the start menu in Gnome Classic 3?
[18:03] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <urlin2u> thelarrousse, on occasion.
[18:04] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <iceroot> kllleE: stop the spam
[18:04] <FloodBot1> kllleE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <usuario> thelarousse yes
[18:04] <zykotick9> Chaz6, first try "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[18:04] <iceroot> kllleE: ppas are not supported, ask the maintainer of that ppa to add your ubuntu-version
[18:04] <thelarrousse> ok. very good urlin2u
[18:04] <Nisk_> Hello, how do you edit the start menu in Gnome Classic ?
[18:05] <Nisk_> Gnome Classic 3
[18:05] <Chaz6> zykotick9: great, thanks!
[18:05] <zykotick9> Does Gnome3 still use alacarte?  re: Nisk_
[18:05] <kllleE> UBUNTU SUCK DICK SOUSAGE ASSHOLE; IT REALLY SUCK DIIICK PENISE VIRGINA ASS LICKING GAY PORN STOMACH ASS HOLE; ALL UBUNTU DEVELOPER SUCK DICK; UNITY IS FREAKING BAD; AND SOFTWARE CENTER TOO DICK PENSIE VIRGINE BOOBS PORN ASSHOLE DICK!
[18:05] <thelarrousse> and here help about hacking?  ubuntu segurity?
[18:05] <iceroot> !ops | kllleE
[18:07] <sipior> kllleE: does your mom know you're using the computer?
[18:07] <Nisk_> Alacarte? re: zykotick9
[18:07] <thelarrousse> bye i have to go
[18:07] <thelarrousse> this is a good chat
[18:07] <scorinitron> what do you do if your kicked from a channel
[18:07] <scorinitron> XD
[18:08] <zykotick9> Nisk_, i was asking a question (on your behave), alacarte was the menu editor in gnome2, don't know if gnome3 uses it though - so i tried to ask the channel ;)
[18:08] <zykotick9> Nisk_, it seems to work - run "alacarte"
[18:09] <trism> savid: there is a thread about it in the forums, couple workarounds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751455
[18:09] <savid> trism,  found a project called "Pillow" which is a fork of PIP.  That seemed to work better.
[18:10] <Nisk_> Alacarte, Not installed
[18:10] <zykotick9> Nisk_, don't know then.  Good luck.
[18:10] <blackeyed> some one can help me, My system is not starting after automatic updates
[18:11] <abhinav_singh> how do i create symbolic link between directory   ln -s /data/logfiles logfiles     ... here /data/logfiles is a directory
[18:12] <blackeyed> my system is not starting after automatic updates, some one can help me?
[18:12] <zykotick9> abhinav_singh, if you're in the directory you want to create the link in (and want the link to be called logfiles) just "ln -s /data/logfiles" should work
[18:12] <_calum> I backed up an image file of Ubuntu in /dev/sda3. Ubuntu boots windows with its bootloader, windows is in /dev/sda2. I'm wiping a windows laptop with a zero fill. Should I restore Ubuntu first before installing the clean windows?
[18:13] <Osmodivs> Hello. I am trying to install the latest nVidia CudaToolkit in 11.10 64 bits. It needs gcc 4.0 and by default i have 4.6, so this page http://www.vectorfabrics.com/blog/item/cuda_4.0_on_ubuntu_11.04 says I need to make a script so ONLY the CudaToolkit uses this version of gcc, I am no programer as you can tell. Does this script needs a .sh extension or leave it as is?
[18:13] <diatomaceous> Hey all, I'm still trying to diagnose my video problems.  My new laptop has an AMD firepro M8900 GPU and after I initially installed ubuntu 11.10, everything worked great with the open-source drivers.  This morning, I did an apt-get update/upgrade and now it's extremely slow.  I tried fglrx but it's really broken for this card apparently - fonts were garbled and I couldn't use my HDMI out.  Help please!  I'd be happy if someone could help me undo the up
[18:14] <zebulon> hey, can anyone give me a hand installing 11.10? it freezes after the CUPS spooler init
[18:14] <diatomaceous> Hey all, I'm still trying to diagnose my video problems.  My new laptop has an AMD firepro M8900 GPU and after I initially installed ubuntu 11.10, everything worked great with the open-source drivers.
[18:14] <kisom> hey guys. does anyone here run a machine with a decent amount of http connections on a kernel version 3.0+? the kernel seems to send packets with sport and dport of <IP_ADDRESS> after a while. vanilla configuration, tried it on several machines and connections...
[18:14] <zykotick9> Osmodivs, convention says only binaries should be without extensions, but gnu/linux doesn't really care about extensions - so it should work, with or without the .sh
[18:15] <tables> zykotick9, how do i put these videos to my ipod?
[18:15] <tables> is there a itunes alternative?
[18:15] <trism> savid: glad you found a workaround. If you find you need PIL later, get the python-imaging source and debian/patches/01_multiarch_support.patch should be the fix you need to build zlib support (I should have looked closer earlier)
[18:15] <DrPoO> tables, an android device
[18:15] <Osmodivs> zykotick9: Ok, Thx. Now lets see if this thing works
[18:15] <zykotick9> tables, i have no idea.  there is some gtk-ipod or something along those lines.  I would never by an apple product myself.  good luck.
[18:16] <leonardo_> hi,i get this problem http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/745268/,vlc cant play .flv videos
[18:16] <blackeyed> If i got a PC with 4 core and 4 GB RAM, what did u recomend me, an Ubuntu 11.10 32 or 64 bits?
[18:16] <diatomaceous_> Er... I couldn't see updates to the chat room with pidgin.. did anyone reply to my essay on AMD graphics problems?
[18:16] <sipior> blackeyed: 64-bit.
[18:16] <leonardo_> if any person can help men i will happy(yes,i have a little english)
[18:16] <blackeyed> sipior: but i found the same aplications that in 32bit?
[18:16] <sipior> blackeyed: yes.
[18:17] <blackeyed> its stable?
[18:17] <_calum> if I restore my image of Ubuntu that was in /dev/sda3, will installing Windows after a zero fill of my laptop break the bootloader of ubuntu?
[18:17] <sipior> blackeyed: yes. it's 2011, use a 64-bit operating system.
[18:17] <zykotick9> tables, looks like the actual package i was thinking about is called gtkpod -- but no idea if it's current/works.
[18:17] <blackeyed> thank you
[18:17] <sipior> blackeyed: sure thing.
[18:18] <blackeyed> thank u
[18:19] <allowoverride> does anyone know of any process that uses fping as part of the default installed programs that run in the back ground or from time to time?
[18:19] <zykotick9> blackeyed, personally - with 4GB 64bit will be more hassle without a lot of reward (i do it mind you)
[18:19] <Osmodivs> zykotick9: You seem like a programer, so, please, can you tell me if something wrong might happens if I messed things up? Like the site says: "I found that the most convenient way to achieve this is to create two little gxx scripts that are executed instead of the /usr/bin/gxx ones. The scripts choose the right version of gxx based on the existence of an environment variable. I put these scripts in my ~/bin directory and placed them in my path before
[18:19] <Osmodivs> the /usr/bin entry." So,  he means I need to put this script file in /bin instead of /usr/bin. So the system always reads /bin before /usr/bin, Correct?
[18:19] <allowoverride> im running 10.04 LTS
[18:20] <sipior> zykotick9: that's nonsense. unless you count missing 20% of your installed ram as not a lot of reward.
[18:20] <zykotick9> Osmodivs, your assumption is wrong.  I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag ;)  Your gcc 4.6 vs 4.0 is WAY over my head.  Good luck.
[18:21] <zykotick9> sipior, and with 64bit using more memory the 32bit - will it even out?  I'm not sure.  And anyone who asks "should i run 32 or 64" should be pointed to 32.
[18:21] <saquib> k
[18:21] <sipior> zykotick9: no.
[18:21] <Osmodivs> dang
[18:21] <diatomaceous_> After doing a normal apt-get update/upgrade, the performance of X has dropped to being almost unusable with the open-source radeon drivers.  What should I do next?
[18:21] <allowoverride> reason is, i logged in and did a ps -ax and noticed fping was running, and i know i didnt set it to nor did i set a cron job for it. any thoughts?
[18:21] <sipior> zykotick9: 32-bit is dead, time to move on.
[18:21] <llutz> anyone hold a 64bit capable cpu shuold run amd64
[18:21] <iceroot> zykotick9: everyone should be pointed to amd64 if the cpu supports amd64
[18:21] <allowoverride> thanks
[18:22] <zykotick9> sipior, i run 64bit on ANYthing that supports 64bit - including my 1GB EEEPC, but for general use 32bit is still easier
[18:22] <iceroot> zykotick9: easier?
[18:22] <zykotick9> iceroot, canoncial's download page seems to disagree with you
[18:22] <llutz> zykotick9: what is easier with 32bit?
[18:22] <allowoverride> for example; /usr/bin/fping -C 20 -q -B1 -r1 -i10 localhost
[18:22] <zykotick9> llutz, running 32bit apps
[18:22] <surfdue> Can I for example take /bin/chmod and upload it to ftp for download?
[18:22] <iceroot> zykotick9: not everything canocial is doing is good/correct
[18:22] <surfdue> A modified version
[18:22] <_calum> I'm unsure which to do first on a laptop which is going to be zero filled (for new windows install). Should I first restore my Ubuntu image which had a bootloader for windows, or install windows first in case it will break Ubuntu?
[18:22] <sipior> zykotick9: allow me to join in the chorus of "easier?"
[18:22] <zykotick9> llutz, i was hoping multiarch would solve that issue (perhaps sometime it will)
[18:23] <allowoverride> thats a pretty defined fping... i think i may have some prog running i didnt load or use... at least that i know of, thats why i ask here...
[18:23] <f0rmat> spooge
[18:23] <zykotick9> iceroot, "not everything canocial is doing is good/correct" understatement of the day ;)
[18:24] <morris4> hi. updated to 11.10 and now trying to boot in recovery mode. it stops at "[      5.153623] generic-usb 0003:046D:C719.0004: input,hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech BT Mini-Receiver] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.3/input0". whats happening?
[18:24] <fellayaboy> how can i view gconf-editor on remote thru ssh?
[18:24] <iceroot> zykotick9: yes there are some decissions i disagree what they have done but i still think that they are doing a very good job
[18:24] <fellayaboy> is their a way to do that?
[18:25] <iceroot> fellayaboy: ssh -X and then start the app
[18:25] <fellayaboy> ok
[18:25] <iceroot> fellayaboy: connect to that host with ssh -X user@host
[18:25] <allowoverride> fping is running again, anyone know of a program that uses /usr/bin/fping -C 20 -q -B1 -r1 -i10 localhost  as part of some process part of its program
[18:25] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, FYI if you are using 11.10 it's dconf-editor i believe
[18:26] <allowoverride> im on public wifi
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: nagios?
[18:26] <fellayaboy> im using 11.04
[18:26] <iceroot> allowoverride: pstree will show you the parent
[18:26] <urlin2u> _calum, you have an image of ubuntu, the windows install will overwrite the mbr, install first in premade ntfs, if you don't want the 200 mib windows extra partition.
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> also true ^
[18:26] <allowoverride> hmmm... SolarisBoy let me see
[18:26] <allowoverride> iceroot: brb
[18:26] <allowoverride> cool
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: sure.. check pstree thats probably best also
[18:26] <allowoverride> its stopped running damn
[18:26] <allowoverride> missed it
[18:26] <iceroot> allowoverride: also "grep -r fping /etc/cron*" is a good way
[18:27] <allowoverride> iceroot: thanks
[18:27] <tommyvyo_> if I have a shell and i want to tail 3 different log files, is there a command to split the shell 3 ways and tail 3 different logs?
[18:27] <allowoverride> any suggestions are appreciated
[18:27] <arrrghhh> anyone use evolution?  my father is wanting to use ubuntu, and insists on having a thick client for email.  evolution is going haywire.  lost all his email, and he found some old file to import.  he imported it, and now his email is working sporadically...
[18:27] <iceroot> tommyvyo_: screen
[18:27] <allowoverride> i dont like stuff running not by my own hand lol
[18:27] <diatomaceous_> After doing a normal apt-get update/upgrade, the performance of X has dropped to being almost unusable with the open-source radeon drivers.  What should I do next?
[18:27] <_calum> urlin2u:So install windows 7 in a custom partition first, then restore my ubuntu image?
[18:27] <allowoverride> iceroot: nothing in cron thanks
[18:27] <tommyvyo_> iceroot: thank you
[18:27] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride:
[18:27] <iceroot> allowoverride: then pstree is your friend
[18:27] <SolarisBoy> you can do something like watch "pstree" or something similar to find the process
[18:28] <Socky_> I am running Lucid, and I want to upgrade to 11.10  Do I have to upgrade to maverick > natty > oneric, or can I just go right to oneric
[18:28] <fellayaboy> thanks guys ssh -X worked great for me
[18:28] <urlin2u> _calum, that is waht I would do having windows as sda1 makes it easier to deal with from its disc if needed.
[18:28] <morris4> anybody? isnt that a weird behavior just stopping at some random point without any error message?
[18:28] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: does nagios use fping?
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> or watch ps auxwwwwww |grep fping,, which should list the PPID (parent PID)
[18:28] <allowoverride> lol
[18:28] <iceroot> Socky_: yes
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: yes
[18:28] <iceroot> Socky_: you have to do every release
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: in your case since it is being spawned/forked by something you can try watch
[18:28] <Socky_> iceroot: k
[18:28] <_calum> urlin2:Windows 7 creates an extra partition for system files though, can I put this in /sda1?
[18:28] <iceroot> Socky_: or wait until 12.04 which is like 10.04 an lts. which can be upgraded directly
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> try "watch 'ps auxwwww |grep fping'"
[18:28] <fellayaboy> in remote desktop what does it mean use host as an ssh tunnel
[18:29] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: no nagios on this box. in the past yes, but i did a full reinstall last week
[18:29] <urlin2u> _calum, you can put windows in one partition ith the pre built ntfs
[18:29] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: ohhh watch
[18:29] <urlin2u> with*
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride:  try "watch 'ps auxwwww |grep fping'"
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[18:29] <allowoverride> thanks!
[18:29] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: that will not show the parent
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> this is a loop that executes by default each 2 seconds,, you will need to keep an eye on it
[18:29] <allowoverride> i like that one liner ;)
[18:29] <_calum> urlin2u:By pre built ntfs you mean a partition I created and formatted as ntfs?
[18:29] <TK5791> hey everyone
[18:29] <Ryan-> HI
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: your right my bad
[18:30] <TK5791> does anyone know how to disable the login Keyring?
[18:30] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: e.g. when the parent is nagios, only pstree will show (and maybe some other bash-foo)
[18:30] <allowoverride> starbucks public wifi's are a little scary lol
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: do with ps -ef
[18:30] <iceroot> allowoverride: you are not using nagios?
[18:30] <allowoverride> anyone could be doing MIM anytime without fear from like the parking lot
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> hmmm
[18:30] <savid> This is going to sound like a weird question, but has anyone had issues viewing xkcd.com in chrome?   It always hangs up on me.  Happened on my old computer, too.
[18:30] <allowoverride> oh, -ef??
[18:30] <allowoverride> not auxwww
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> -ef shows my ppids
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> yes
[18:31] <allowoverride> so watch ps efauxwww|grep fping
[18:31] <TK5791> does anyone kn ow of a good site for Unity themes?
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> ps -ef |grep fping
[18:31] <allowoverride> i could just leave in the aux right?
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> watch ' try "watch 'ps auxwwww |grep fping'"'
[18:31] <allowoverride> just wondering
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> no
[18:31] <allowoverride> or is that to much
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> grrr
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> paste fail sorry
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> watch 'ps -ef |grep fping'
[18:31] <allowoverride> ill just run two terminal instances of watch
[18:32] <allowoverride> ok done. thanks for that h/up ;)
[18:32] <TK5791> so no one knows how to disable the login keyring
[18:32] <TK5791> ?
[18:32] <_calum> I believe you can delete the login keyring from /gnome/keyrings or something
[18:33] <james538227> hey, i have just created a new user on my ubuntu server but the bash is not the same as the root user i.e. doesnt have name@host in the command line, can anyone give any advice on how to fix this?
[18:34] <TK5791> _calum: I'm using Unity
[18:34] <zykotick9> james538227, next time use "adduser foo" instead.  Copy the files from /etc/skel to the users home dir.
[18:34] <llutz> james538227: configure PS1 in your .bashrc/.profile
[18:34] <phunyguy_work> james538227, copy and chown the /etc/skel folder contents
[18:34] <_calum> ahh, don't know for Unity, sorry :(
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: you may want to also |grep -v grep as it will show you yourself looking for this string also
[18:34] <llutz> james538227: check your shell, echo $SHELL
[18:34] <TK5791> I'm used to using Win XP
[18:34] <arrrghhh> TK5791, look for keyrings i guess?
[18:34] <diatomaceous_> Guys, I can't be the only one here using the open-source radeon drivers.. has no one else noticed extreme performance issues after this morning's update?
[18:34] <TK5791> so what if I wanted my programs folder... where could I locate it?
[18:34] <james538227> llutz, my shell is /bin/sh
[18:34] <zykotick9> TK5791, my recommendation is disable autologin then it won't be an issue
[18:35] <arrrghhh> TK5791, that's not a simple answer.  /bin is where most of your "programs" are.  or /usr/bin rather.
[18:35] <llutz> james538227: set your shell, use usermod
[18:35] <zykotick9> james538227, sh vs bash - big difference
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> iceroot:  i just monitored my box for some time "root     29291 29067  0 18:34 ?        00:00:00 /apps/IPsoft/IPmon/bin/fping -C 5 -i 5 -t 500 -p 300
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> " thats from "nagios"
[18:35] <TK5791> zykotick9: thanks, but that kind of defeats the object of an autologin
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> one of my monitoring boxes rather..
[18:36] <arrrghhh> TK5791, if you put in no password for the keyring initially, it'll never ask again -_-
[18:36] <TK5791> arrrghhh: thanks
[18:36] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: hm strange, dont know what "ipsoft" has to do with nagios
[18:36] <zykotick9> TK5791, so instead type your password for the keyring then...
[18:36] <_calum> the command dd  if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda will clear all data on my hd right?
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: thats is nagios
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> renamed
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> simply
[18:36] <iceroot> !danger
[18:36] <iceroot> _calum: yes
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> the check spawns fping,, but it is logged with a ppid
[18:36] <llutz> _calum: add a "bs=4k"
[18:36] <arrrghhh> lol
[18:36] <_calum> lol its not dangerous only if you do it wrong without backups
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: its nagios on speed per say...
[18:37] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: ok
[18:37] <TK5791> arrrghhh: too late for that
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> _calum: be sure that there are no partitions mounted on the drive too, you can be sure if you use liveCD
[18:37] <arrrghhh> TK5791, i assume you can clear it out, i don't know how that works in detail tho.
[18:37] <_calum> llutz:What will that do?
[18:37] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: good point
[18:37] <llutz> _calum: "speeds it up a bit"
[18:38] <TK5791> I had someone put this OS on my system and clearly they've set up this login keyring,
[18:38] <_calum> ahh ok, but it will still zero all data?
[18:38] <llutz> _calum: bigger blogsize than 512byte default will make it a bit faster.
[18:38] <_calum> its for my windows install see
[18:38] <TK5791> can anyone recommend a better Linux OS, :(
[18:38] <arrrghhh> TK5791, perhaps you should reinstall yourself?  might learn something too.
[18:38] <TK5791> Ubuntu is driving me nuts
[18:38] <arrrghhh> TK5791, i like ubuntu with gnome-session-fallback
[18:38] <llutz> _calum: yah, will do same job
[18:38] <arrrghhh> you're in #ubuntu -_-
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: thanks let me know if you get to the bottom of it whos spawning that command.. its weird its going against localhost like so...
[18:38] <zykotick9> TK5791, it's on by default - but if you login, it gets unlocked - if you have autologin it doesn't
[18:38] <_calum> ok thanks guys
[18:38] <TK5791> the menu bar on the left hand side sucks big time
[18:38] <diatomaceous_>  :(){:|:;}:
[18:39] <zykotick9> !notunity | TK5791
[18:39] <Pici> !danger
[18:39] <TK5791> I have no idea what Ubotto just said
[18:39] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: will do
[18:39] <arrrghhh> zykotick9, what about gnome-session-fallback?  that's what i put on both my rents computers.
[18:40] <allowoverride> zackly, very weird
[18:40] <_calum> hey why did that user get booted?
[18:40] <arrrghhh> TK5791, he was whispering sweet nothings in your ear
[18:40] <iceroot> _calum: forkbomb
[18:40] <_calum> ohhh, don't know what that is
[18:40] <iceroot> ah a different one
[18:40] <TK5791> arrrghhh: oh how exciting
[18:40] <arrrghhh> _calum, that command does bad things
[18:40] <_calum> ah
[18:40] <arrrghhh> TK5791, i can tell you're riveted
[18:40] <TK5791> :(
[18:41] <TK5791> arrrghhh: more like frustrated
[18:41] <arrrghhh> TK5791, if you don't like linux, no one is forcing you to use it
[18:41] <arrrghhh> i'm a big proponent of use what works best for you.
[18:41] <TK5791> I love the idea of open source, but this OS is killing me
[18:41] <ppetraki> Can someone triage this and get it assigned to a distro series? mterry has already verified it but I need someone with more authority to move it to the next level: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/891707
[18:41] <llutz> _calum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[18:41] <arrrghhh> i would NEVER force anything upon a user.  unless it's a work, that's different :D
[18:41] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: yah there are like 15 people here with laptops, a few look a little shady lol
[18:41] <zykotick9> TK5791, Ubuntu is only one distro - there are many others
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  i do'nt like unity, so i switched to a different fork
[18:42] <TK5791> distro?
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> for someone to ping localhost it implies they are on your box
[18:42] <james538227> llutz, cheers dude, worked a treat :)
[18:42] <TK5791> sorry I'm a complete noob
[18:42] <arrrghhh> TK5791, distribution.  ubuntu is a distribution of linux.
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> else,, it does imply some shady business... im more convinced you just have a  weird application/script running or something
[18:42] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: who and w show two of my user logged in, before opening seperate terms to monitor with watch...
[18:42] <TK5791> ok, so what does one suggest?
[18:42] <arrrghhh> TK5791, that's fine.  searching&reading is your best friend.
[18:42] <arrrghhh> ^^
[18:42] <TK5791> stick with this or try something more user friendly?
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: what tty are they on?
[18:42] <allowoverride> 1 tty and 3 pts/0/1/2
[18:42] <arrrghhh> TK5791, ubuntu is pretty user-friendly.
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: and what tty are you on?
[18:42] <arrrghhh> as far as linux distro's go.
[18:43] <_calum> ohhh its a denial of servive attack
[18:43] <_calum> c*]
[18:43] <TK5791> believe me I have been searching... and reading... my brain aches
[18:43] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: if you have more than one console/tty open this can appear to be the case sometimes
[18:43] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i believe im only on tty7 with gui
[18:43] <iceroot> _calum: its just an endless-loop as recursion
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  i switched to the most-hated ubuntu fork
[18:43] <zykotick9> TK5791, turning off autologin will solve your keyring issue - problem solved.
[18:43] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i already checked with single user mode cnt-alt F1/F9, no one there
[18:44] <atruno> my intel sound is detected by lspci but it is not detected by gnome volume control.  it had worked normally in the past.
[18:44] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: weird
[18:44] <allowoverride> maybe im over reacting security wise, but still need to find what prog with pstree it's spawning from... it seems to have stopped
[18:44] <TK5791> zykotick9: ok I've turned it off... not exactly the solution I was looking for
[18:44] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: how can i check with service command all running services
[18:44] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: you can also check what installed fping.. it may give a clue
[18:45] <allowoverride> ex: sudo service info?
[18:45] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: service --status-all
[18:45] <allowoverride> ah. thanks
[18:45] <SolarisBoy> prepend sudo also =)
[18:45] <TK5791> but I guess until this version of Ubuntu is updated frustration is the name of the game
[18:45] <SolarisBoy> i think upstart / initctl has a way also.. but that should suffice for now
[18:45] <allowoverride> so a "+" means its running,
[18:46] <SolarisBoy> yes believe so
[18:46] <TK5791> anyone know how to reset my profile in Google Chrome... its not loading correctly?
[18:46] <allowoverride> grep "+" highlights it
[18:46] <_calum> the safest bet then is to Zero fill from an Ubuntu live loaded into RAM
[18:46] <allowoverride> awww, there it is,,, it may be smokeping
[18:46] <allowoverride> lol
[18:46] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: heck yea dude
[18:46] <SolarisBoy> thats exactly what it is
[18:46] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i didnt know that was running, i believe i ran that a few weeks ago
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> sometimes services have a wacky way of checking them selves into startup when they know they should be
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> *shouldn't*
[18:47] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i believe i was testing that on my local net a month ago or less
[18:47] <allowoverride> sheshh
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> makes sense
[18:48] <TK5791> Google Chrome, anyone know how to reset a profile that is corrupted?
[18:48] <allowoverride> yap;) thanks for those cmds, those will help later the grep -v grep especially
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> anytime sir
[18:48] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: When you call smokeping without
[18:48] <allowoverride>        arguments it will start as a daemon and do its work.
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> interesting,, i recall using it once or twice in the past probably not for anything serious
[18:49] <allowoverride> ok how to kill that so it doesnt start up at boot, BUT remains as a service so i dont have to reload it again,, updaterc? something
[18:49] <_calum> thanks guys
[18:49] <allowoverride> im still new to deb/ubuntu services, i come from redhat
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: i as well =)
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: im actually still having bad muscle memory from other distros or even OS... like typing cfgadm -al on ubuntu boxes
[18:50] <allowoverride> i believe its update-rc.d something force yadda enable/disable
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> neva good =)
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: correct
[18:50] <Tidals> allowoverride› may i ask why you're moving from RH to deb/ubuntu?
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> or remove i believe
[18:51] <allowoverride> another way to see whats running / cheap way / is sudo update-rc.d then hit tab tab
[18:51] <Socky_> Is there anything like speedtest.net for servers without xwindows?
[18:51] <llutz> allowoverride: use sysv-rc-conf to en-/disable services, update-rc.d has some glitches
[18:52] <happygolucky> I like using a live USB however when I always have to run drivers for my graphics card on startup--other than just putting the drivers on the USB and running the installation is there a way to sort of 'remake' the USB live with modifications?
[18:52] <happygolucky> omit when, sorry..
[18:52] <allowoverride> llutz: well that puzzles me as i cannot tell for certain yet which are sysv or converts to upstart lol
[18:52] <allowoverride> llutz: is sysv in /etc? the conf
[18:52] <llutz> allowoverride: works with both
[18:53] <allowoverride> yah thats the confusing part, the devs should just use one
[18:53] <llutz> allowoverride: name is confusing, yes
[18:54] <Xase_> Wow...
[18:54] <Xase_> This is the quietest it's ever been in here I think.
[18:55] <allowoverride> i believe this is howto; first sudo update-rc.d -f smokeping remove, than if you want it back sudo update-rc.d smokeping defaults
[18:55] <allowoverride> yep thats it
[18:55] <happygolucky> specifically say I wanted to freshest installation of live could I load up the live version, apt-get upgrade, then put all that back into the live USB so I dont have to do it over and over again
[18:55] <allowoverride> nifty;)
[18:55] <allowoverride> welp that solves that miserymystery
[18:55] <happygolucky> and how, if it's possible
[18:56] <llutz> allowoverride: some package updates will restore the rcX.d links, you have to track that. read "man update-rc.d"
[18:56] <allowoverride> llutz: really?
[18:56] <allowoverride> at reboot?
[18:56] <llutz> allowoverride: package-updates, not reboot
[18:56] <allowoverride> llutz: is that some kind of failsafe
[18:56] <allowoverride> ohhhhh ok
[18:56] <allowoverride> llutz: gotcha
[18:58] <tyler_d> weeee
[18:59] <phunyguy_work> Can anyone tell me where in libvirt you would set the dns suffix for guest VMs?
[18:59] <allowoverride> interesting, i just did a tracepath from this att wifi net at startbucks to one of my doms at my Gnet, and these wayport networks must be a total priv net,,,
[18:59] <JHHH> How do I set up a wireless printer on Ubuntu?
[19:00] <m1ck3y> Hello all, I just recently updated Ubuntu to the latest version and now I'm having a lot of problems with it. I have a dual booted machine, grub loads fine, when I select ubuntu it freezes at the loading screen. But in recovery mode I can browse all my files I just can't start X.
[19:00] <allowoverride> the switch fab i mean. no replies at all to any hop... wow.
[19:01] <tyler_d> m1ck3y: sounds like your grub has been missconfigured; I apologize but I know very little about it however would start there :s
[19:01] <allowoverride> someone told me a while back ifconfig was deprecated, and to use ip, is this true for ubuntu? or linux in general?
[19:02] <tyler_d> allowoverride: this is true all over
[19:02] <allowoverride> tyler_d: i use gui to setup ip's and such with NetworkManager, so I am outta the loop for cmdline other than bringing interfaces ifup/ifdown...
[19:03] <tyler_d> allowoverride: if you are at starbucks your through a forced portal, which means your assumption is correct, its all nat traffic to the real world
[19:03] <tyler_d> allowoverride: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:04] <allowoverride> tyler_d: thats what im thinking... typicall a tracepath will show more than no reply
[19:04] <Socky_> If I am doing a dist-upgrade and Im getting slow speeds of 200k, when I am able to push over 1600K is there a way to safely stop the dist-upgrade and switch to a new server to download the upgrade from
[19:04] <tyler_d> allowoverride: I work at one of "those" companies supporting the software :p so yah
[19:04] <allowoverride> tyler_d: oh, just trying to see my gnet at home  (gnet= GarageNet)
[19:04] <allowoverride> tyler_d: tell me a bit more then :)
[19:04] <tyler_d> allowoverride: what protocol / port are you trying to get to?
[19:04] <allowoverride> 22
[19:05] <Xase_> Man Unity is wack... http://goo.gl/hz377
[19:05] <mang0> Just a quick one; debian also uses "sudo apt-get install xxxxx" right? Like ubuntu. Not pacman or anything...
[19:05] <allowoverride> actually i dont have port forward to my box though, i forgot, but i would like to try and hit my network iwth ubuntu utils today
[19:05] <Xase_> Can I get help with SuSE linux here?! http://goo.gl/hz377
[19:05] <allowoverride> i have openvas server loaded
[19:05] <Xase_> OMFG
[19:05] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[19:05] <Xase_> KERNEL THIS
[19:05] <oCean> Xase_: stop that
[19:05] <tyler_d> allowoverride: can you telnet to your ip/port? is that http? ftp?
[19:05] <allowoverride> nope
[19:05] <JHHH> How do I install my Epson printer wirelessly on Ubuntu?
[19:06] <onre> mang0, yes, it does. apt-get and dpkg and deb package format all come originally from debian.
[19:06] <allowoverride> its a jinksys router hanging off my isp modem
[19:06] <mang0> onre: more thinking of the "sudo" ?