[04:51] <Kilos> morning all
[05:01] <superfly> Morning Kilos
[05:02]  * superfly has a blog post to write
[05:02] <superfly> Later.
[05:02] <Kilos> k fly
[05:13] <Squirm> hi
[05:13] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[05:59]  * superfly is at work now
[06:16] <Kilos> have a good day superfly
[06:16] <Kilos> Maaz, tell nuvolari WB stranger
[06:16] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode
[06:39] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:39] <Kilos> hi mazal nlsthzn
[06:45] <mazal> Hmmm , I didn't know this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/228881/why-debian-packages-in-archive-folder-get-deleted-automatically-in-ubuntu
[06:50] <Kilos> good find. i also wondered why some packages downloaded again when i knew i had downloaded them before
[06:50] <Kilos> just zeroed them with gedit
[06:51] <mazal> I also wondered why some files seem to disappear :P
[06:51] <mazal> But must it be zero like in the word zero , or the number 0 ?
[06:55] <Kilos> 0
[06:56] <mazal> Just changed mine as well
[06:56] <Kilos> lol
[06:56] <Kilos> its fine with uncapped peeps
[06:56] <mazal> Don't want it to delete the files
[06:56] <Kilos> the 3g peeps lose out
[06:57] <nlsthzn> morning all
[06:57] <mazal> Morning nlsthzn
[06:57] <nlsthzn> how are you mazal ?
[06:57] <mazal> Good thanx and you ?
[06:57] <Kilos> neelsie
[06:58] <nlsthzn> oh I am fine... got to get off my backside, day getting shorter :p
[06:58] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos
[07:01] <Kilos> Maaz, seen Wraz
[07:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Wraz was last seen 2 days, 8 hours, 34 minutes and 13 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-12-11 14:27:27 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-12-12 04:39:32 PST
[07:01] <Kilos> aw i missed him again
[07:02] <Kilos> what timeline is PST
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz, define PST
[07:03] <Maaz> Kilos: PST n 1: standard time in the 8th time zone west of Greenwich, reckoned at the 120th meridian west; used in far western states of the United States [syn: {Pacific Time}, {Pacific Standard Time}, {PST}], PST Pacific Standard Time [-0800] (TZ, PDT, USA)
[07:04] <Kilos> ah another yank
[07:08]  * Squirm looks around
[07:08] <Kilos> hehe
[07:10] <superfly> Yeah, I have to say I don't worry much about downloading anymore
[07:10] <Kilos> lekker hey
[07:11] <mazal> Biggest problem for me is the time it takes
[07:17] <mazal> Ok guys I'm off to go to PTA
[07:17] <mazal> Have a great day
[07:18] <nlsthzn> oh yes now I remember why I rage quited windows a few weeks ago... it is a PITA to register when the auto one doens't want to and you have to phone in and then you realize today is Friday (Sunday UAE)... and you can
[07:18] <nlsthzn> *can't
[07:20] <Kilos> hi jrgns
[07:20] <jrgns> morning Kilos
[07:20] <Kilos> ai nlsthzn
[07:21] <nlsthzn> lol... not so bad... I can wait
[07:21] <nlsthzn> I mean... I may wait... just spent two days setting up this system and installing stuff... not in the mood to do it again (so soon)
[07:44] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[07:45] <Symmetria> heh as a matter of interest
[07:45] <Symmetria> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/gengraph.php <[07:48] <Kilos> hi flody20183
[07:48] <flody20183> hi
[07:48] <Kilos> welcome to ubunt-za
[07:48] <flody20183> thx
[07:48] <Kilos> oh its tim
[07:48] <Kilos> you our tim or another one
[07:49] <flody20183> ? tim from the list ?
[07:49] <flody20183> if so then yes
[07:49] <Kilos> oh not the one from here. hehe ok welcome
[07:50] <Kilos> first time here flody20183 ?
[07:50] <flody20183> yip, spotted the irc link on your early warning post so thought I would take a look
[07:51] <Kilos> ah good. nice to have you here. lots of the list guys never get here
[07:53] <Kilos> flody20183, tell us a bit about yourself
[07:54] <Squirm> Symmetria: so I woke up this morning and told myself I'm not going to have coffee for 3 days as a test
[07:54] <Squirm> well..
[07:54]  * Squirm sips his coffee
[07:55] <flody20183> hmm. in a nutshell I'm a JHB based developer / senior technical support person for an ISP. Main focus is perl, php and ruby/rails
[07:55] <Kilos> hehe Squirm
[07:55] <Kilos> great flody20183 what ISP if i may ask
[07:55] <flody20183> Internext
[07:56] <flody20183> Based in Randburg
[07:56] <Vince-0> Haai
[07:56] <Squirm> hello flody20183, Vince-0
[07:56] <Vince-0> Friday whoot
[07:57] <Kilos> there are a few guys from here in your area flody20183
[07:57] <Squirm> today is my last day at work till the 7th :)
[07:57] <Kilos> yo Vince-0
[07:57] <Kilos> hehe Squirm you gonna get back inna worse state
[07:57] <Kilos> nice having school hols hey
[07:58] <Squirm> school broke up on the 1st
[07:58] <Squirm> but it's still better than most :)
[07:59] <Kilos> yeah
[07:59]  * Squirm needs faster internets
[07:59] <Squirm> my TED talk keeps buffering
[07:59] <Kilos> only one that doesnt is Symmetria
[08:00] <Squirm> well
[08:00] <Squirm> come the 7th of January
[08:00] <Squirm> we'll have a 16mbit line
[08:00] <Squirm> 4*4mbit bonded
[08:01] <Symmetria> hrm
[08:01] <Symmetria> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/gengraph.php try that kilos
[08:01] <Symmetria> I changed it, to do a true per second
[08:01] <Symmetria> with no averaging
[08:01] <Symmetria> so it uses the raw 43k+ data points
[08:02] <Kilos> eek looks like a prone porcupine
[08:02]  * Squirm eyes Symmetria
[08:02] <Vince-0> nice graph! what does it show
[08:03] <Symmetria> heh the number of prefix's being withdrawn every second outta the bgp table
[08:04] <Vince-0> aah
[08:04] <Vince-0> ISP speak
[08:04] <Symmetria> heh, basically just how much churn there is in the bgp table
[08:05] <Vince-0> uh, change in routing?
[08:05] <Kilos> Symmetria, do some work for telkom too
[08:05] <Kilos> speed them up some
[08:05] <Symmetria> kilos not possible :p
[08:05] <Kilos> especially the 3g side
[08:05] <Kilos> aw
[08:06] <Symmetria> vince yeah its basically changes in the routing table
[08:06] <Symmetria> if you wanna see TOTAL changes in the routing table
[08:06] <Symmetria> *hrm*
[08:07] <Kilos> hi timkeller
[08:08] <Symmetria> heh this takes a while to generate :p
[08:13] <inetpro> good morning
[08:13] <inetpro> Kilos: thanks for that mail
[08:13] <Kilos> hiya inetpro anytime
[08:13] <Kilos> you sposed to remind me
[08:13] <inetpro> :-)
[08:19] <Symmetria> Retrieving per second BGP change stats for period Thu Dec 13 22:18:15 2012 to Thu Dec 13 22:18:15 2012 (total 43200 data queries)
[08:19] <Symmetria> Starting data query for peer <IP_ADDRESS>....
[08:19] <Symmetria> Data query for peer <IP_ADDRESS> completed in 18 seconds
[08:19] <Symmetria> heh
[08:19] <Symmetria> thats not bad
[08:19] <Symmetria> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/total.php
[08:20] <Symmetria> 2400 queries a second
[08:50] <magespawn> morning all
[09:07] <Kilos> hey magespawn
[09:10] <jrgns> Hi spawn
[09:12] <Kilos> hi DigiGram
[09:12] <DigiGram> hi Kilos
[09:18] <Squirm> http://dailychillout.net/do-you-know-how-old-is-she/
[09:19] <Squirm> slightly off topic
[09:19] <Squirm> :P
[09:21] <magespawn> hi jrgns
[11:23] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[11:23] <Maaz> nuvolari: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell nuvolari WB stranger" 5 hours, 6 minutes and 56 seconds ago
[11:23] <nuvolari> Kilos: middag oom :>
[11:23] <nuvolari> oh? I've been gone?
[11:24] <Squirm> hello nuvolari
[11:24] <Trixar_za> Hi nuvolari
[11:25] <nuvolari> hello Squirm, Trixar_za
[11:27] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[11:27] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[11:27] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[12:25] <Symmetria> hrm
[12:25] <Symmetria> I wonder if Mandela is still alive
[12:25]  * Symmetria has doubts
[12:32] <Squirm> 2 hours of work
[12:32] <Squirm> then a month holiday
[12:32] <Squirm> meh, 3 weeks
[13:18] <Kilos> hey all you friends of google where do i get a link to actually see what the code in the mbr should be?
[13:19] <Kilos> ive found a hex sector 0 editor but havent a clue what to put in sector 0
[13:23] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[13:23] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[13:32] <Kilos> ah found one but its for winsucks
[13:32] <Kilos> A8h E1h B9h D2h 00h 7Eh 00h 00h 00h 00h 00h 00h
[13:36] <Kilos> google linux mbr boot code
[13:37] <Kilos>  Maaz  google linux mbr boot code
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: "UNIX / Linux: Copy Master Boot Record (MBR)" http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-copy-mbr/ :: "assembly - Write MBR Code - Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/568359/write-mbr-code :: "GRUB Boot Manager MBR/Boot Sector" http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/GRUB.htm :: "Master boot record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
[13:37] <Maaz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record :: "Master Boot Record - ArchWiki" https://wiki.archlinux…
[13:56] <Kilos> looking at this tool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBRwizard
[13:57] <Kilos> .exe
[13:57] <Kilos> sigh
[13:59] <tumbleweed> Kilos: have you seen the mbr package?
[13:59] <tumbleweed> Maaz: apt show mbr
[13:59] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.: The MBR is used in booting operating systems from the hard disk. It runs first, then transfers control to the operating system's loader which transfers control to the kernel.
[13:59] <Kilos> nope tumbleweed
[13:59] <tumbleweed> but most of thet ime, we have grub in the mbr
[14:00] <Kilos> can one apt-get it?
[14:00] <tumbleweed> yes
[14:00] <tumbleweed> did you do anything special to not have grub in the mbr?
[14:00] <Kilos> i got no mbr so that needs fixing first
[14:00] <tumbleweed> no
[14:00] <tumbleweed> we normally install grub as the mbr
[14:01] <Kilos> drive shows 2 TB unallocated but unable to write to it at all
[14:01] <Kilos> no partition tools work
[14:01] <tumbleweed> that's got nothing to do with MBRs
[14:01] <tumbleweed> this is a new 2TB disk?
[14:01] <Kilos> no old one that crashed when trying to install ubuntu ver and over
[14:02] <tumbleweed> how are you accessing it now? from a live CD?
[14:02] <Kilos> then found its the HD204UI firmware that marks those blocks as bad when other software tries to get in
[14:02] <Kilos> yip from UBCD
[14:02] <Kilos> bios sees it fine
[14:03] <tumbleweed> can you pastebin /proc/partitions?
[14:03] <Kilos> tried installing or parting with everything i got
[14:03] <Kilos> how will i fing that?
[14:03] <Kilos> find
[14:04] <Kilos> if i use it as second drive pc hangs before booting
[14:04] <Kilos> lemme try 12.04 live again
[14:10] <Kilos> 3rd attempt 12.04 seems to be booting
[14:11] <Kilos> first said no OS insert system disk twice
[14:11] <Kilos> grrr
[14:12] <Kilos> but that started the prob tumbleweed , it only accepted win7 once then nothing after that again
[14:12] <Kilos> 12.04 struggling to get gowing
[14:22] <Kilos> tumbleweed, http://slexy.org/view/s2dmxnuBzW
[14:28] <Kilos> and gedit popped up a message with that saying it had changed
[14:30] <Kilos> oh just twigged, you meant the mbr package in the repos?
[14:30] <tumbleweed> Kilos: yes
[14:31] <tumbleweed> Kilos: ok, doesn't look like it can see a partition table on there at all
[14:31] <tumbleweed> did you have anything of any value on that disk?
[14:31] <Kilos> the drive wont letanything write to it
[14:31] <Kilos> nope its one of ians hear to try be repaired
[14:31] <tumbleweed> maybe the drive is totally dead?
[14:32] <tumbleweed> that's my bet
[14:32] <Kilos> it worked on 7 and when i tried 12.04 a few times then it crashed
[14:32] <tumbleweed> run a full SMART test on it?
[14:32] <tumbleweed> (smartmontools package)
[14:33] <Kilos> must i mount it first before installing smartmontools
[14:34] <tumbleweed> no
[14:34] <Kilos> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt?
[14:34] <Kilos> oh just install from live cd?
[14:34] <tumbleweed> yeah, you can install packages while you are using the live CD
[14:34] <tumbleweed> (until you run out of RAM)
[14:35] <Kilos> eek
[14:35] <Kilos> ok i gotta take modem there
[14:35] <Kilos> wbb
[14:37] <superfly> magespawn: ping
[14:54] <magespawn> hey superfly
[14:57] <superfly> magespawn: we're heading up to KZN for a holiday/friend's wedding, and thought it might be nice to head up your way - know anywhere a family of 4 can spend a night or two for relatively little?
[15:00] <magespawn> quite a few places in hluhluwe. both in and out of town
[15:01] <magespawn> let me get some info for you
[15:01] <magespawn> brb
[15:01] <superfly> magespawn: no rush, it'll be in May/June next year
[15:26] <Symmetria>  5:25PM  up 1569 days,  7:44, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
[15:26] <Symmetria> heh
[15:26] <Symmetria> holy crap
[15:27]  * Symmetria wonders if that box would ever boot again if it was powered off
[15:33] <magespawn> okay superfly
[15:33] <magespawn> Symmetria: only one way to tell
[15:38] <magespawn> later all on my way
[15:38] <Kilos> go safe magespawn
[15:44] <Cantide> see ya magespawn
[15:44] <Cantide> hi Kilos :)
[15:44] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[15:44] <Cantide> Kilos, ubuntu meet at 17:30 on Monday? Aren't they usually later... like 19:00 usually?
[15:45] <Kilos> eek
[15:45] <Kilos> sorry
[15:47] <Cantide> i don't mind 17:30 :)
[15:47] <Kilos> woke you up at least so you could wake me up
[15:47] <Kilos> lol
[15:47] <Cantide> just asking because i thought it was a little unusual
[15:47] <Cantide> besides, Monday is a holiday
[15:47] <Cantide> so the time shouldn't be a problem :)
[15:47] <Kilos> eveyone else is on their way home at that time
[15:47] <Kilos> oh
[15:48] <Kilos> replied to that mail. hope it worked
[15:48] <Kilos> dunno if i can reply to my own mail
[15:48] <Cantide> lol
[15:48] <Cantide> i haven't gotten one yet..
[15:49] <Kilos> it came to me
[15:49] <Kilos> is that wrong
[15:50]  * Kilos cries
[15:50] <Kilos> from me to me
[15:50] <Cantide> ?
[15:50] <Cantide> lol
[15:50] <Cantide> :D
[15:52] <Kilos> more eeek
[15:52] <Kilos> no capitals there
[15:52] <Kilos> typing here is so much easier. dont need to find the shift key
[15:53] <Kilos> Cantide, you got it now
[15:54] <Cantide> yeah :)
[15:54] <Cantide> thanks~
[16:18]  * nuvolari peeks in
[16:18] <nuvolari> hello Cantide, oom Kilos
[16:18] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[16:18] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom?
[16:18] <Cantide> hi nuvolari :)
[16:18] <nuvolari> skies, ek het vroër kom inloer en toe verdwyn ek weer :(
[16:20] <Kilos> lol
[16:20] <Kilos> maak net seker dat jy nie maandag of dinsdag verdwyn nie seun
[16:28] <smile> hi :D
[16:29] <smile> Maaz: It's cold outside. Where can I find a warm jacket? :p
[16:29] <Maaz> smile: If you say so
[16:29] <Kilos> hi smile
[16:29] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[16:45] <inetpro> eish Kilos
[16:45]  * inetpro didn't even see the error
[16:46] <Kilos> wat nou inetpro
[16:46] <Kilos> lol ya me too
[16:46] <inetpro> jou mail 17:30
[16:46] <inetpro> ai
[16:47] <Kilos> but i changed it now. you got that one too?
[16:55] <Kilos> at least now everyone knows im only human
[16:55] <Kilos> the list guys i mean
[16:55] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[16:56] <smile> inetpro: hi :D
[16:56] <smile> :)
[16:56] <smile> my exam today went great! it was english ;)
[16:56] <Kilos> hehe
[17:00] <charl_> good evening all
[17:03] <smile> charl_: good evening :)
[17:04] <smile> Kilos: the practice here helped me to finish that exam :P
[17:04] <Kilos> hi charl_
[17:04] <Kilos> im glad smile
[17:04] <smile> how did your day go Kilos ? :p
[17:05] <charl_> hi smile !
[17:05] <charl_> smile: how did the exams go?
[17:05] <smile> very good :P
[17:06] <smile> I'm sure I will have more than 50% :p
[17:06] <charl_> nice
[17:06] <charl_> well done
[17:06] <Kilos> quiet smile
[17:06] <charl_> hi Kilos
[17:06] <charl_> how's it going
[17:07] <Kilos> quiet charl_
[17:07] <charl_> ah so
[17:07] <Kilos> good otherwise ty and you ?
[17:07] <smile> thanks charl_ :p
[17:08] <smile> Kilos: nothing really important happened? :p
[17:08] <Kilos> where smile ?
[17:09] <smile> Kilos: in your life today :p
[17:09] <Kilos> no
[18:18] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:21] <smile> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQL22xOmUM :)
[19:32] <smile> byeeee! :)
[20:19] <charl_> hi psydroid
[20:19] <charl_> how's it going
[20:21] <psydroid> hi charl_
[20:21] <psydroid> I'm doing well, what about you?
[20:24] <charl_> good good
[20:24] <charl_> when you moving to poland?
[20:24] <psydroid> after the holidays probably
[20:24] <charl_> ah nice
[20:25] <charl_> i'm off, ciao all


[00:46] <UcefKH> hello
[02:34] <UcefKH> yo
[06:14] <koolhead17> hi all
[10:02] <koolhead17> kim0, ping
[12:03] <Yuvaraj> Hi All


[04:24] <OvenWerk1> micahg: I figgured it out, no worries. (if the query above hasn't scrolled off the top by the time you read this)
[18:18] <zequence> Not sure yet what this is about, but there are a bunch of packages that aren't building in our package set http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20140307-trusty.html#ubuntustudio
[18:19] <zequence> I haven't had the time to look into "upstream". But, I suppose I might have some time in coming weeks
[18:20] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Yes. It's a nice thing to have in the installer. I have some ideas floating on how to improve that further on, for both the plugin, as well as the installer
[18:21] <zequence> It's not a bad idea to have the same format for both, as both are in their own way Ubuntu Studio installers
[19:44] <OvenWerk1> zequence: Just in our PPA? Maybe delete the latest one that has built.
[19:46] <zequence> OvenWerk1: No, those are, I think, packages trying to build in Ubuntu
[19:47] <zequence> Becoming project lead didn't come with a handbook, and there's no docs for flavor devs particularly, so there are loads of stuff I'm not aware of
[19:48] <zequence> We haven't done any package maintenance at all so far - in our package set (which is a standard that is being used between flavors - we have a set of packages in universe in a Ubuntu Studio package set)
[19:48] <zequence> ..not counting our own sources of course
[19:49] <zequence> so far, I think all we've done inside the Ubuntu Studio team is the two SRU bugs I did. There is a guy in the mail list, who came along and did some work too


[08:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[13:14] <diddledan> what has everyone got their fathers for tomorrow?
[13:19] <brobostigon> some of his favorite beer, :)
[13:21] <diddledan> +1
[13:21] <diddledan> favorite beer is a good choice
[13:21] <brobostigon> :)
[13:38] <popey> diddledan: memories only, sadly.
[13:44] <diddledan> :-(
[13:44]  * diddledan cuddles popey
[13:45] <brobostigon> :(
[14:53] <DJones> diddledan: A card so far (given that he's in Majorca until next weekend)
[15:41] <DJones> ok, somebody turn the heat down https://goo.gl/ccioTT guage is in full sun
[16:09] <gooloydmoon> hello excuse me but i can't register don't know why
[16:10] <gooloydmoon> i registered myself but when i try to access international channel i keep being redirected to unregged channel
[16:10] <gooloydmoon> i copy paste my really really easy question
[16:11] <gooloydmoon> cause i'm a lazy guy.
[16:11] <gooloydmoon> Hello. Running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS . I noticed now firefox 54.0 does not support flash player anymore. i can't watch anymore streaming movies because audio is ok but video is so slow!!! please just help me to solve this situation.
[16:12] <gooloydmoon> well i tryied to use vlc for that purpose..i'm not a linux fan but that's the computer i have at the moment.
[16:13] <gooloydmoon> no luck at all.


[00:10] <arraybolt3[m]> Alright, graphical glitch bug report filed upstream. https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1597
[00:24] <tsimonq2> Wow, quick response!
[00:25] <tsimonq2> Ohhh.
[00:25] <tsimonq2> He doesn't know we tried that already
[00:51] <tsimonq2> I guess you gotta follow up on the existing bug report cause yours isn't allowed to stay open ;)
[00:52] <kc2bez[m]> 🤷♂
[00:52] <tsimonq2> I don't sweat it as much as I used to
[00:53] <kc2bez[m]> It isn't worth it
[00:53] <tsimonq2> Developers have workflows man, he's been maintaining it for a while, who am I to judge?
[00:53] <tsimonq2> Yeah you're right
[00:53] <kc2bez[m]> He gets a bunch done and is meticulous about it. Hard to complain really.
[00:54] <kc2bez[m]> I think there is a bit of a language/culture difference too.
[00:55] <tsimonq2> Yeah, I can be a bit of a brash American every once in a while ;)
[02:17] <guiverc> Wow & thanks arraybolt3[m], @Leokolb, kgiii, @Noumeno for all your testing I see many hours ago now ^ of LXQt 1.1.1 stuff,  thanks also to our devs tsimonq2 kc2bez[m]
[02:18]  * guiverc heard a device pinging early this morning as I was in bed... now many hours later & I've finally caught up on it all
[03:49] <tsimonq2> Our entire LXQt stack is waiting on those new packages to migrate.
[03:50] <arraybolt3[m]> Hey, Simon Quigley , can you tell me how exactly to test KWin on Lubuntu? I'm finally back and am fighting with that graphical bug again, and since tsujan couldn't replicate the problem on KWin, I'm trying to use KWin on Lubuntu to test.
[03:50] <tsimonq2> Probably along the lines of sudo apt install kwin
[03:50] <arraybolt3[m]> Doin' that.
[03:50] <tsimonq2> You're going to have to update your default display manager, should do it automatically, lmk if you need help
[03:51] <tsimonq2> Otherwise just systemctl restart kwin or something
[03:51] <tsimonq2> I'm rusty
[03:52] <arraybolt3[m]> Man, I hope I'm not building KLudgebuntu over here...
[03:53] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley: OK, so about that help... I have never switched display managers in my life before, and have no idea what I'm doing, but I know that sudo apt install kwin followed by reboot didn't do it.
[03:54] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, hey, looks like "kwin --replace" might do it. Is Openbox ICCCM2.0 complient?
[03:54] <tsimonq2> Try #ubuntu on that one, I know there's a specific command that I can't think of right now. They're quick with it, I'm afk and tired :)
[03:54] <tsimonq2> Don't mean to push you away on this one either - if you don't get it by tomorrow I'll dig in further
[03:55] <arraybolt3[m]> You're fine. We've been working for hours, you probably longer than me, and I'm tired, so I get it.
[03:56] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, kwin --replace seems to have done it!
[03:56] <arraybolt3[m]> And lookie here! Bug still happens!
[03:57] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, should I take this directly to upstream? I've tested compton, picom, and KWin now, all three have the bug. Or should I test something else or wait? (Every time I open an upstream bug, things seem to get closed rather quickly, and I'm afraid it's because I don't know what I'm doing...)
[03:57] <tsimonq2> Keep upstream updated I'd say :)
[03:57] <tsimonq2> One of these times he'll realize what precisely you're saying
[03:57] <tsimonq2> Or comment on the open bug report
[03:57] <tsimonq2> And perhaps try applying that fix again
[03:58] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. Here's hoping that kwin --replace was the right way to do it. (I did this with the PCManFM-Qt fix applied.)
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Sweet.
[04:00] <tsimonq2> https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/4856/kinetic.html#qtermwidget
[04:00]  * tsimonq2 sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/806ab1824d64b8e5f4d236949dbd768e64a6df38
[04:00] <tsimonq2> I fixed the build dep in texstudio, doing a test build locally then uploading
[04:08] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, reported additional test results. The fact that it isn't reproducible for him on KWin, but is for me, suggests that maybe something is awry with our LXQt stack.
[04:10] <arraybolt3[m]> For in the event this is a problem with our stuff, I'll hold off on reporting the stretched menus bug until we know whether LXQt 1.1.0 is wonky, or if it's our builds and/or config that's causing problems.
[04:43] <tsimonq2> Thanks arraybolt3
[04:44] <tsimonq2> nm-tray update incoming, then featherpad (I'm switching it to the Qt 6 version to test, please pay attention to this update and test thoroughly)
 "Wow & thanks arraybolt3, @..." <- Thank you! You helped me get into this in the first place. Th
[04:49] <arraybolt3[m]> s/th/^U^U
[04:49] <tsimonq2> nm-tray uploaded
 Finally able to log in again on QA test tracker site
[05:36] <guiverc> arraybolt3[m], changing DMs is in our manual; see https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.13/session_settings.html   (though you can edit a file; logout/login & be there too) --  likely you worked it out hours ago... but our manual is cool, and I won't miss an opportunity to paste it :)
[09:24] <LeoK[m]> Just performed an update after install with lubuntu daily ISO 02-06-22 and LxQT 1.1.0 looking good - will test further
 The daily ISO has 1.1.0 version? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <LeoK[m]> Just performed an update after install with lubuntu daily ISO 02-06-22 and LxQT 1.1.0 looking good - will test further)
 No but I did an update and got it ..means it will be in todays ISO I believe (re @N0um3n0: The daily ISO has 1.1.0 version?)
 Ahhh ok, thanks!!! (re @Leokolb: No but I did an update and got it ..means it will be in todays ISO I believe)
 NP (re @N0um3n0: Ahhh ok, thanks!!!)
 https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1597#issuecomment-1145821854 (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3[m]> Alright, graphical glitch bug report filed upstream. https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1597)
[16:26] <tsimonq2> Good morning
[16:27]  * kc2bez[m] yawns
[16:27] <kc2bez[m]> Afternoon :)
[16:28] <tsimonq2> Still 11:28 here ;)
 18:28 :p
[16:30] <tsimonq2> I asked in #debian-qt-kde about the Qt bug
[16:31] <kc2bez[m]> Half past the noon hour here.
[16:31] <kc2bez[m]> Did they concur with the LXQt assessment?
[16:33] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/tsujan/FeatherPad/discussions/657
[16:33] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/issues/61
[16:33] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/lxqt/xdg-desktop-portal-lxqt/issues/13
[16:33] <tsimonq2> kc2bez[m]: Don't know yet
[17:45] <tsimonq2> I'd give it a day or two before the images build. We're waiting on those NEW packages and so half the stack migrated...
[18:44] <arraybolt3[m]> Is LXQt 1.1.0 compatible with Qt6? tsujan believes that graphical glitch is a bug in Qt, and since Qt6 exists, I'm leery of opening a bug report against Qt5.
[18:49] <arraybolt3[m]> Nevermind, answered my own question. Qt5 is what LXQt 1.1.0 uses, not Qt6, and the version of Qt5 is uses is LTS, so I'll open the bug report against it.
[19:47] <tsimonq2> Here's the thing, we're waiting on KDE Frameworks 6 to be available
[19:47] <tsimonq2> If you can find out a) which KF5 modules are used by LXQt; b) how to compile the KF6 versions; c) porting instructions I'll do it
[19:48] <tsimonq2> I just need some initial research
[19:48] <tsimonq2> I highly doubt we're there yet though
[21:56] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, so that bug with the desktop is believed to be in Qt itself, not in LXQt, so I've gone yet another level upstream with the bug report. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-104020
[21:56] <arraybolt3[m]> (The bug with the rubber band leaving trails behind, I mean.)
 *files a bug against tsimonq2 for reasons*
 i'll be doing critical system updates on our infra shortly.  expect phab and our sites to blip during reboot
[23:58] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for the heads up @teward001
 Ok! ;) (re @teward001: i'll be doing critical system updates on our infra shortly.  expect phab and our sites to blip during reboot)