[11:20] <tga> sorush20: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:20] <tga> sorush20: or just use synaptic
[11:21] <sorush20> I do this from a terminal... right
[11:21] <Seveas> sorush20, in a terminal you type: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:21] <Seveas> and then you type in your password
[11:21] <Nabiki> Is there a semi-easy way to figure out which chipsets a card uses? :P
[11:21] <tga> sorush20: just launch Synaptic from the menu.. it's a package manager and it will help you install stuff
[11:21] <sorush20> Seveas great thanks..
[11:21] <tga> Nabiki: once you have it in your system?
[11:21] <liable> Nabiki: lspci
[11:21] <Nabiki> :P
[11:22] <Nabiki> I mean before it is bought. hehehehe
[11:22] <Seveas> sorush20, samba comes with a manual in /usr/share/doc/samba, read that for configuration instructions please
[11:22] <liable> Nabiki: google :)
[11:22] <tga> Nabiki: just google for "card_name linux"
[11:22] <Seveas> also the command 'man samba' can help you there
[11:22] <ice04> Has amap joined the ported list
[11:23] <sorush20> okay thanks guys..
[11:23] <Seveas> Nabiki, if you have the card already, lspci is the way to go, otherwise the manufacturers site or google. Please keep in mind that sometimes cards use differnet chipsets for different revisions!
[11:24] <ice04> What would be an ideal larning enviroment for a newbie old school debian sarge or ubuntu
[11:24] <Seveas> depends on what you want to learn
[11:24] <tga> ice04: probably ubuntu because it comes with a decent working desktop
[11:25] <tga> ice04: gentoo really, if you have the patience :)
[11:25] <Seveas> if you waant to learn the hard way: try debian or even gentoo. If you want to learn using linux, try ubuntu since it comes as a working system :)
[11:25] <liable> tga: debian doesnt have a decent working desktop?
[11:25] <tga> liable: not out of the box
[11:26] <ice04> i want to start from scratch and build up to sys admin skills
[11:26] <Pixel83> ice04, I've been using ubuntu for more than a week now since windows refused to boot, and I'm getting used to it...
[11:27] <goldfish> ice04: Get a book, essential system administration. O reilly.
[11:27] <liable> Pixel83: there all free :) try em all :)
[11:27] <ice04> i have ubuntu running and i love it,, more like the Mac OS X enviroment
[11:27] <Nabiki> ^_^ hehehe
[11:28] <ice04> but need to find a Unice that can let me start from a command line based enviroment to Dtop to server
[11:28] <Pixel83> liable, i know, started with mandrake, tried a bit of suse and debian...
[11:28] <Nabiki> After the iso I am downloading finishes, I will boot to linux and use lspci to see what chipset my belkin cardis using.^^;;
[11:28] <liable> Pixel83: sorry, wrong person :(
[11:28] <Nabiki> Is ndiswrapper among the packages available on the mirrors?
[11:29] <Seveas> yes
[11:29] <Pixel83> liable, no worries
[11:29] <Seveas> the ndiswrapper kernel module resides in linux-restricted-modules
[11:29] <Seveas> the ndiswrapper tool in ndiswrapper-something
[11:29] <dlh> hi guys
[11:29] <ice04> hi goldfish is that book available on line
[11:29] <dlh> how do i install gcc?
[11:29] <goldfish> ice04: afraid not :)
[11:29] <Seveas> dlh, sudo apt-get gcc
[11:30] <liable> dlh: build-essential
[11:30] <ice04> ok thanks will try amazon
[11:30] <dlh> Seveas, it didn't work :(
[11:30] <Seveas> dlh, sudo apt-get install gcc
[11:30] <tga> dlh: apt-get install build-essential
[11:30] <dlh> Seveas,  at least from that synaptic thing
[11:30] <Seveas> dlh, sudo apt-get install build-essential will give you other useful programs for building
[11:30] <Pixel83> ice04, if you're looking for help with ubuntu, take a look at www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:30] <kevin06> I just wanted to send a general thanks to you guys for asking questions and trying to help, rather than being an ass like people on other servers. Thank you!
[11:30] <Nabiki> linux-restricted-modules?????
[11:30] <dlh> ok, i'll try that
[11:30] <dlh> thanks :)
[11:31] <Seveas> Nabiki, those are the closed source drivers
[11:31] <Seveas> such as ndiswrapper, madwifi, etc..
[11:31] <Nabiki> :P I see.^_^
[11:31] <goldfish> ice04: oh u mean to buy online?
[11:31] <Nabiki> So the stuff that some debian users would think of as vampire like things? :P
[11:32] <goldfish> ice04: of free online?
[11:32] <Seveas> yep :)
[11:32] <liable> kevin06: visit doom9?
[11:32] <kevin06> liable, no... But I was able to solve the issue.
[11:32] <liable> kevin06: sweet, how
[11:33] <kevin06> liable, it was strikingly simple actually. I had to change my settings no to auto-mount it.
[11:33] <liable> hah
[11:33] <kevin06> liable, then when I scanned the disc, it found the audio tracks.
[11:34] <goldfish> limp ?
[11:35] <Raskall> is it safe (as in, will my system break?) to upgrade to breezy now?
[11:35] <Seveas> Raskall, DO NOT use breezy
[11:35] <bassMonkey> Hi, I need to find out how long a ubuntu setup has been installed, is there any way to do this?
[11:35] <goldfish> Raskall: Read the topic :)
[11:35] <Seveas> breezy is broken and will be broken more
[11:35] <Raskall> Seveas: ok.. :) thanks. :)
[11:36] <Nabiki> The windows system information tells me squat. hehe
[11:36] <Burgundavia> Raskall, I currently run breezy. Mono is toast. Sound is toast. HAL is sort of working. Any program that relies on HAL/dbus has to be fixed
[11:36] <Seveas> Burgundavia, and don't forget the c++ transition starting tuesday
[11:36] <Raskall> Burgundavia: ok.. :) guess I will wait, then.
[11:36] <Seveas> lots of things will be toast then
[11:36] <makkia> in hoary my slapd use 100% of CPU any suggestion ?
[11:36] <Burgundavia> Seveas, a lot of work is being done right now
[11:36] <tga> makkia: upgrade your cpu
[11:37] <Seveas> Burgundavia, but they are not uploading it yet :)
[11:37] <makkia> tga: lol
[11:38] <tga> makkia: restart it, check the logs.. the usual story
[11:38] <Burgundavia> Seveas, not yet, but the work is there
[11:39] <Seveas> i think i'll try breezy after the c++ transition on a separate partition :)
[11:47] <Nabiki> I have a stupid pointer question that should take about three seconds to answer once you stop laughing... Anyone care to answer? :P
[11:48] <Nabiki> (C++ related)
[11:48] <geogeo> hello dudes
[11:48] <Seveas> pointers are nice :)
[11:48] <Nabiki> hihi
[11:48] <Seveas> whats the prob. Nabiki ?
[11:48] <mypapit> damn.. trashed my ubuntu system :))
[11:48] <Seveas> mypapit, that's not good :)
[11:48] <Nabiki> int * ptr;   *ptr refers to the value assigned to the location, and ptr to the location itself, correct?
[11:48] <Seveas> yes
[11:49] <Nabiki> Just making sure. :)
[11:49] <Seveas> :)
[11:49] <mypapit> Seveas, guess i strech it too far this time... i'm building a customize cdwriter box based on ubuntu
[11:49] <geogeo> hey dudes, some of you know anjuta ?
[11:49] <mypapit> geogeo, the anjuta the IDE?
[11:50] <geogeo> yeah
[11:50] <Nic> installed it about 10 minutes ago
[11:50] <mypapit> geogeo, what about it
[11:50] <Nic> :D
[11:50] <geogeo> do you use it ?
[11:50] <mypapit> geogeo, occasionally
[11:50] <Seveas> Nabiki, as i said, pointers are nice...
[11:50] <sorush20> I guys just tweaking Ubuntu for my sis.. I just wanted to configure GNOME to open folders in the same window can any on help please..
[11:51] <geogeo> I was searching a c++ editor like anjuta and  I wanted to know if anjuta is a good one
[11:51] <geogeo> it seems to me easy and nice
[11:51] <Seveas> sorush20, edit -> preferences (in a nautilus explorer window)
[11:51] <geogeo> but if you guys know some editors which are cooler !
[11:51] <mypapit> Nabiki, the reduction line of code doesnt mean that the program will be smaller when compiled, nor faster... nor maintainable
[11:51] <Seveas> sorush20, the "behaviour" tab, activate "always open in browser windows"
[11:51] <trondd> geogeo: vim
[11:51] <Nabiki> Anjuta is really nice.
[11:51] <Seveas> geogeo, vim :)
[11:52] <liable> geogeo: if you like it, alls that matters :)
[11:52] <Nabiki> In this case it means two setsof switches instead of 6 ^^;;
[11:52] <geogeo> yeah yeah vim ok
[11:52] <trondd> geogeo: eclipse has got an c++ plugin
[11:52] <Nabiki> but, it would only have had to run through two or three of them anyway. hehehehe
[11:52] <Seveas> eclipse is the nicest ide ever imho
[11:52] <geogeo> yes, i just saw it
[11:52] <mypapit> hmm eclipse doesnt work for me though, too slow and too complex...
[11:53] <mypapit> lol..
[11:53] <geogeo> ahah
[11:53] <Nabiki> I can make the code vieable someplace though, if one is really curious as to wether or not it was worth it. :P hehehehe
[11:53] <chocoIate> back :P
[11:53] <Nabiki> += 'w' somewhere in the middle. hehe
[11:53] <chocoIate> i followed this tutorial here -->> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto
[11:54] <geogeo> thank you !
[11:54] <w0wie> whats the package to use page up and down in man files
[11:54] <Seveas> w0wie, hmm??
[11:54] <lipster> hi , stuff about locales , how can i change the locale in console from like en_US.UTF-8 to just plain en_US ? cause this en_US.UTF-8 seems to dislike the man pages, it shows some bizarre alien signs instead of the ' character ?
[11:54] <geogeo> have a good day, dudes
[11:54] <chocoIate> i type sudo pon in the terminal window and i guess thats it
[11:54] <Seveas> w0wie, afaik the default settings use less as pager, so that should work...
[11:54] <ice04> Hi again i want to stop all scan pings ,, should i use iptables ??
[11:55] <Seveas> ice04, i believe you can use the firestarter frontend to do that easily
[11:55] <liable> chocoIate: wvdial is your friend, easy as hell
[11:55] <chocoIate> however when i try to connect to the internet via the browser it fails :o so i wonder if it actually worked, i mean how do you know you are connected to the ineternet :o
[11:55] <liable> ice04: guarddog also easy as hell
[11:55] <chocoIate> wvdial :o
[11:55] <chocoIate> what is that liable
[11:55] <thenuke> wolksvagen dial
[11:55] <Seveas> lipster, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales. Let it only generate UTF8 locales
[11:55] <ice04> how about iptables ??
[11:55] <liable> chocoIate: a dialing program
[11:56] <chocoIate> where do i get it
[11:56] <chocoIate> oh so now i need to dial lol
[11:56] <chocoIate> i thought that was it :P
[11:56] <thenuke> chocoIate: I think it is already installed in ubuntu
[11:56] <Seveas> ice04, firestarter is a frontend to iptables, you can use either with the same result
[11:56] <liable> ice04: guarddog is a front end for it
[11:56] <lipster> Seveas, so the UTF-8 is not the problem?
[11:56] <liable> chocoIate: type 'wvdialconf'
[11:56] <chocoIate> is it an application in the start menu somewhere, what is the direct link :P
[11:56] <Kimppa> Hello.. Does anyone here know how to re-install gnome?
[11:56] <chocoIate> in the terminal window :o
[11:57] <liable> chocoIate: type 'sudo wvdialconf' yep in terminal
[11:57] <saber_> kimppa: try researching dpkg-reconfigure
[11:57] <chocoIate> ok, i'm on winxp right now so i'm gong to have to logoff and booth on ubuntu :P
[11:57] <chocoIate> is that all there is to it liable :o
[11:57] <liable> Kimppa: why?
[11:57] <Qoppa> Hi there
[11:57] <bassMonkey> If I wanna update a package not in the repos, do I simply install it over the old one, like dpkg -i "packagename.deb" or do I need to remove the old one first?
[11:57] <chocoIate> should i look for a tutorial on the wiki ;-?
[11:57] <w0wie> Seveas: yer thanx for that
[11:58] <liable> chocoIate: 'sudo apt-get install wvdial'
[11:58] <Nabiki> wvdial rocks :P
[11:58] <chocoIate> and what does that second command do :o
[11:58] <liable> chocoIate: 'sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf'
[11:58] <chocoIate> lol
[11:58] <chocoIate> wait :P
[11:58] <chocoIate> whats that tired command now :o
[11:59] <liable> chocoIate: actually, when you install it, it will ask for isp etc
[11:59] <chocoIate> yeah, i provided all that following this tutorial here -->> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto
[11:59] <liable> chocoIate: then, once its done, just type 'sudo wvdial'
[11:59] <Kimppa> liable: something weird happened yesterday while I was using fluxbox. When I booted x didn't go to the login screen anymore. gdm said it was no longer the primary display manager and when I tried startx, gnome was missing all menus - everything.
[11:59] <Kimppa> I was able to log in to gnome via kdm but I had the same problem
[11:59] <liable> Kimppa: try installing xdm, kdm
[12:00] <chocoIate> oh, ok. So this wvdial is something i need to do in combination with the sudo pppconfig i had done earlier :o
[12:00] <bassMonkey> help please
[12:00] <Kimppa> the problem is system wide, because I had the same problem with another username
[12:00] <mypapit> chocoIate, wvdial saves you from lots of hassle in dialing to your isp
[12:00] <chocoIate> because i just finished pppconfig and it seems to have been a success, atleast when i type 'sudo pon' nothing happens
[12:01] <liable> chocoIate: nup, nothing to do with pppconfig
[12:01] <Kimppa> root@kleppane:/home/kimppa # dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:01] <Kimppa>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...
[12:01] <Kimppa>  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[12:01] <Kimppa> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[12:01] <liable> chocoIate: try it, its nice, just have to start it from command line
[12:02] <Nabiki> :P What I need is an implementation of apt-get for Win32 that will download the packages and cituate them in an archive on the drive.  Atleast on winxp for instance i can see the computer icon blinking in the system tray and i know i'm connected successfully :P
[12:02] <Nabiki> Hmmmmm.... wget has already been ported, it is pretty much one ofthe most important parts. :P
[12:02] <Seveas> sorush20, beep-media-player, totem, vlx, xmms, mplayer, rhythmbox...
[12:02] <Xgates> how can I install nvidia-glx by itself?
[12:02] <chocoIate> how do you know your connected with ubuntu and online :o
[12:02] <thenuke> sorush20: www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:03] <liable> chocoIate: it will show on command line
[12:03] <Xgates> I dont want the kernel or the modules with it since I compiled a kernel
[12:03] <thenuke> sorush20: you need the codecs, so surf thru that site
[12:03] <jaku> hi, is impossible to navigate in the web pages of mozilla.org because they aloways say to upgrade to 1.0.4 and on ubuntu there is the 1.0.2
[12:03] <Seveas> jaku, ff can fake the user-agent string
[12:03] <Seveas> use that :)
[12:03] <DeadZed> How do I change permissions and owner of a folder and ALL subfolders ??
[12:03] <Seveas> DeadZed, chmod -R / chown -R
[12:03] <mypapit> jaku, it doesnt pose a problem..
[12:03] <DeadZed> :)
[12:03] <chocoIate> brb
[12:03] <kisain> hi all
[12:04] <Qoppa> hi
[12:04] <kisain> as anyone seen Kamping_kiaser?
[12:04] <Xgates> anyone know how can I install nvidia-glx by itself?
[12:04] <Seveas> not lately kisain
[12:04] <kisain> i'm having trouble getting my nvidia card to run (had to redo my system)
[12:04] <kisain> and he had a solution that worked
[12:05] <kisain> he told me to go into recovery and type a command that allowd you to pick and choose from detected hardware
[12:05] <kisain> i forgot the comman :(
[12:05] <kisain> windows sucks i miss my ubuntu
[12:06] <liable> kisain: /j #debian, then /msg dpkg nvidia
[12:06] <Seveas> kisain, maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??
[12:06] <kisain> see thats just it i don't remeber the command
[12:07] <Kimppa> so.. back to my question, does anyone know how to re-install gnome?
[12:07] <kisain> but i know it's not that l
[12:07] <Seveas> Nabiki, sure it can :)
[12:07] <DeadZed> Seveas actually .. whats the use of permissions if I can still read/write using  winXP "Paragon Mount Everything" ??
[12:07] <DeadZed> or anyone else
[12:07] <Nabiki> Hehehe.  I can implent it in perl, and use it to download stuff under windows.. ^^;; :P
[12:07] <Seveas> i think paragon mount everything doesn't really care about permissions...
[12:07] <DeadZed> there you go
[12:07] <kisain> it was like reconfigure-grub or somethin like that
[12:07] <Seveas> update-grub
[12:08] <Seveas> that's nothing nvidia related though
[12:08] <kisain> already did that diden't work :/
[12:08] <trondd> Nabiki: yum (fedoras packetmanager) is writen in python
[12:08] <dan_a> Hi guys, I need a hand with a failed dist-upgrade.  I was running Woddy + Backports, attempted to upgrade to Hoary and I think it's gone pear shaped.
[12:08] <thenuke> kisain: well, have you tried apt-get reinstall gnome?
[12:08] <kisain> see i got the drivers and enabled them.....
[12:08] <trondd> Nabiki: might be an easier place to start :)
[12:08] <kisain> um no
[12:08] <Seveas> dan_a, where did it fail?
[12:08] <dan_a> Now all my packages that are installed appear in Obsolete and Locally created
[12:08] <Nabiki> I have one thing working in my favor. ^^  Apt uses wget,which has already been ported. :-P hehehe
[12:08] <Seveas> ouch...
[12:08] <kisain> thats a good idea i havent tryed
[12:09] <liable> Kimppa: apt-get remove --purge gdm, then apt-get install gdm
[12:09] <liable> Kimppa: not gnome
[12:09] <dan_a> Seveas, and I don't seem to have a lot of the packages I should have in the list
[12:09] <kisain> and that should fix my vid card problem
[12:09] <DeadZed> deselect can force install/uninstall stuff
[12:10] <DeadZed> dselect I mean
[12:10] <thenuke> (last Kimppa
[12:10] <kisain> i have one of those moboards that have the onboard vid card that you can only shut off in bios
[12:10] <DeadZed> If I encrypt the whole disk .. will it make my distro run slow ?
[12:10] <kisain> my problem is is something dosen't know how to use the vid card
[12:10] <dan_a> Seveas, do I need to set me default dist in apt.conf or something like that?
[12:10] <sorush20> I keep getting the messeage that there is not plugin installed
[12:10] <lipster> how can i choose what services get loaded at system boot and wich not? like add some or remove some?
[12:10] <sorush20> for music player...
[12:11] <dan_a> lipster, chmod -x the start script in /etc/init.d, or remove the package.  Some can be stopped by changing the settings in /etc/default/package-name
[12:11] <thenuke> lipster: try rcconf
[12:11] <DeadZed> if win apps dont care about permissions .. how do I prtect contents of my drives?
[12:11] <Kimppa> liable: did that but it didn't solve my problem
[12:11] <lipster> thnks
[12:11] <Seveas> dan_a, no idea, i can give you my /etc/apt/* if you want?
[12:12] <dan_a> Seveas, sounds good
[12:12] <Seveas> hang on
[12:12] <Burgundavia> DeadZed, win apps can't read you Ubuntu drives
[12:12] <DeadZed> can
[12:12] <DeadZed> Paragon mount everything
[12:12] <DeadZed> + e2fs .. something
[12:12] <DeadZed> If I encrypt the whole disk .. will it make my distro run slow
[12:12] <Kimppa> my problem isn't that gdm is not the default display manager, my problem is that GNOME is not working. When I log in to gnome, all I can see are the two gray "girders" and they are both EMPTY. I cannot see the clock, the menus or for the matter anything else
[12:13] <liable> Kimppa: remove ~/.gnome
[12:13] <DeadZed> Kimppa can you uninstall , reinstall gnome
[12:13] <Seveas> dan_a, http://kaarsemaker.net/~dennis/etc_apt.tar.gz
[12:13] <Kimppa> liable: the problem is that it is a system wide problem, not only for my user
[12:13] <lipster> lipster, yep chmod -x does stop the service from being loaded at boot but i still get a nasty Permission denied. message when it comes to load it ( even if it does not load it)
[12:13] <dan_a> Thanks Seveas
[12:14] <Seveas> it's pretty much the ubuntu default, just added multiverse to the sources.list
[12:14] <Kimppa> DeadZed: yes, that is exactly what I'm trying to do, but I do not know how. My original question was how to do it
[12:14] <dan_a> yeah, I think I need an apt.conf of somethign
[12:14] <dan_a> Seveas, thanks for that
[12:14] <Seveas> yw
[12:14] <Xgates> does anyone know how you compile the nvidia-kernel-source?
[12:14] <Xgates> cant make out the info on the site
[12:14] <Seveas> dan_a, and don't forget to install ubuntu-desktop :)
[12:15] <Seveas> Xgates, why would you want to do that?
[12:15] <Seveas> ubuntu has the latest version of the nvidia driver
[12:15] <dan_a> Seveas, don't want that package, it's a server
[12:15] <Seveas> ah ok
[12:15] <dan_a> Seveas, anyway, part of the problem is that I can't see that one
[12:15] <Seveas> ubuntu-base than
[12:15] <dan_a> Seveas, I wanted Ubuntu-base
[12:15] <dan_a> Seveas, yes :)
[12:15] <Seveas> :)
[12:15] <dan_a> Seveas, can't see that either
[12:16] <sorush20> which media player is more like Windows Media Player
[12:16] <Seveas> eben if you add the ubuntu repos to your sources and do an apt-get update?
[12:16] <Xgates> Seveas, I had to recompile the kernel for sound support that is not in the kernel, I needed the alsa-driver src
[12:16] <Seveas> sorush20, mplayer
[12:16] <dan_a> Seveas, yep, that's the problem
[12:16] <Nabiki> How hard is it to get ubuntu to play DVD's?
[12:16] <Xgates> so now I need the nvidia kernel src too to bet it to work
[12:16] <nicolas_faf> #ubuntu-fr
[12:16] <Xgates> bet/get ....
[12:17] <misieq> hi there...
[12:17] <mypapit> Nabiki, DVD on ubuntu? on scale 1 - 10, i rate it 0.5
[12:17] <mypapit> :p
[12:17] <misieq> i was wondering if it is possible to port gentoo emerge to ubuntu?
[12:17] <Seveas> misieq, possible: maybe. A good thing: definitely not
[12:17] <HiddenWolf> seveas: amen to that
[12:17] <_hp_> how do i get gftp to memorize passwords?
[12:17] <holycow> Xgates, the kernel is entirely modular ... how is anything not in the kernel?
[12:17] <Seveas> Nabiki, not too hard, you might need libdvdcss2
[12:18] <misieq> Seveas: why not?
[12:18] <mypapit> sorush20, get mplayer, it has a skin that mimic your favorite Windows Media Player :)
[12:18] <HiddenWolf> _hp_ add the sites as bookmarks
[12:18] <Kimppa> liable: I tried removing .gnome*, but as I expected, it didn't help in any way
[12:18] <cam_> what file is the default gateway set in? /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:18] <misieq> I used gentoo once and i liked it
[12:18] <Seveas> misieq, because the apt way of doing things fits better in a debian-based system
[12:18] <Xgates> holycow, my sound card support is not in it
[12:18] <dan_a> Seveas, ahhh, I think I was missing the pgp stuff
[12:18] <Xgates> Alsa is compiled into the kernel therefore alsa-drivers is not installed
[12:19] <Seveas> misieq, and because apt is better :)
[12:19] <Nabiki> Does VLC run well on it? :)
[12:19] <DJSelbeck> all of mine gtk1.2 apps are looking so ugly what can i do. the font is to big the menus has no 3deffects
[12:19] <sorush20> mypapit, thanks..
[12:19] <Seveas> and because reimplementing a perfectly fine working something would be nonsense and just cost manpower
[12:19] <misieq> Seveas, erm... and what if i compile from source something what is in the apt repo? will apt break or something?
[12:19] <Xgates> holycow, I was looking at this for nvidia-kernel src --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21111.html
[12:19] <Kimppa> Does anyone know how to reinstall _gnome_?
[12:19] <Seveas> DJSelbeck, gtk1.2 simply is ugly :)
[12:19] <Seveas> misieq, apt-get source <packagename>
[12:20] <Seveas> dpkg-buildpackage
[12:20] <Xgates> holycow, all it says is to compile it, and in the src there is no info either on how to go about that
[12:20] <Xgates> hmm
[12:20] <Seveas> dpkg -i <the deb>
[12:20] <Seveas> there, built from source :(
[12:20] <liable> Kimppa: lets start again, you get gdm at boot? but no menus in gnome? Or you go to prompt at boot or...
[12:20] <Seveas> :) i meant
[12:20] <holycow> Xgates, i wish i could help, i've not compiled anything in ages : / sorry
[12:20] <Seveas> and apt won't break if you install into /opt or /usr/local
[12:20] <DJSelbeck> yes but normally the font is not so big. for example the xmms menu has a font size of 15
[12:20] <Kimppa> liable: do you mind if I pm you with the long story?
[12:20] <liable> Kimppa: sure
[12:20] <Xgates> holycow, ok wait I might have it :-)
[12:21] <misieq> Seveas, can i add sth to apt repo? i was wondering if i could use mcplay
[12:21] <cam_> how do i disable syncronizing the clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org at boot?
[12:21] <Seveas> misieq, what is sth?
[12:21] <Raskall> how do I switch default desktop system (kde/gnome) from the commandline?
[12:21] <misieq> something
[12:21] <cam_> ive looked through the rc.d folders and cant find anything to do with ntp
[12:21] <Raskall> vnc4server starts kde, but I want Gnome
[12:21] <mypapit> the golden rule : always install things that doesnt belong on your distro in /usr/local
[12:21] <HiddenWolf> cam_ look for something with time :)
[12:22] <misieq> they use this abbreviation in dictionaries
[12:22] <trondd> Raskall: edit ~/.vnc/startx
[12:22] <cam_> yer there's nothing apart from the hardware clock
[12:22] <Seveas> misieq, you can always ask the MOTU
[12:22] <misieq> MOTU?
[12:22] <Seveas> misieq, see UniverseCanditates on the wiki
[12:22] <nicolas_faf> Hello
[12:22] <Raskall> trondd: ahh. what's the startup command for gnome?
[12:22] <cam_> ive even apt-get removed ntp
[12:22] <Seveas> or wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[12:22] <cam_> and it still wont stop
[12:22] <misieq> i'll give it a try... thanks
[12:23] <nicolas_faf> Can you see here : http://pastebin.com/285038
[12:23] <nicolas_faf> and say me de problem
[12:23] <Seveas> cam_, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[12:23] <cam_> ahh i see ntpdate in init.d
[12:23] <cam_> now
[12:23] <cam_> tyahis
[12:23] <cam_> thanks
[12:24] <Seveas> nicolas_faf, what is the problem?
[12:24] <nicolas_faf> Hello
[12:24] <nicolas_faf> I will export EGTK and GOBO
[12:24] <Seveas> that file looks good to me nicolas_faf
[12:25] <misieq> Seveas, I heard once about some synaptic like app written in mono... do u know the name?
[12:25] <Seveas> no idea
[12:25] <trondd> Raskall: gnome-session
[12:25] <Xgates> holycow, oh well not working the install, btw do you know how I can install nvidia-glx by itself?
[12:25] <nicolas_faf> but when I tape echo $GOBO i don't have reponse
[12:25] <Xgates> holycow, I dont want any kernel image or modules since I compiled a kernel
[12:25] <Xgates> just the the glx driver is all
[12:25] <Xgates> just need ....
[12:26] <Seveas> nicolas_faf, /etc/profile is only sources for login shells
[12:26] <Seveas> so not for terminals within gnome
[12:26] <Raskall> trondd: takk. :)
[12:26] <Seveas> nicolas_faf, add these lines to your ~/.bashrc too
[12:27] <nicolas_faf> seveas -> ok, i test
[12:27] <Hussam> do the ubuntu precompiled xfce packages have compositor enabled?
[12:29] <mypapit> Xgates, just download the drivers from nvidia.com, init into runlevel 3, execute the installer, should be fine
[12:29] <mypapit> Xgates, oh..i forgot, you need to install kernel sources too
[12:29] <Seveas> mypapit, not really
[12:29] <nicolas_faf> export PATH="$PATH:/usr/lib/smarteiffel/bin";
[12:29] <nicolas_faf> export GOBO="/usr/lib/gobo";
[12:29] <nicolas_faf> export EGTK="/usr/lib/egtk";
[12:29] <nicolas_faf> -> Must I put ";" after line ?
[12:29] <Seveas> just the headers
[12:29] <dan_a> Seveas, I think that's cured it, thanks for that
[12:29] <Seveas> nicolas_faf, not neccessarily
[12:29] <marcin_ant> hi all
[12:30] <Seveas> dan_a, yw, glad i could help
[12:30] <marcin_ant> I would like to ask what is a status of breezy
[12:30] <Seveas> breezy is broken
[12:30] <Seveas> massively broken and will be broken more over the next week(s)
[12:30] <Xgates> mypapit, yeah how do you compile and install the kernel src too?
[12:30] <Xgates> cant seem to get that one
[12:30] <marcin_ant> Seveas: ok, so then I'll wait for a while
[12:30] <HiddenWolf> seveas, define massively
[12:30] <Seveas> Xgates, for compiling drivers, you just need the kernel headers
[12:30] <marcin_ant> Seveas: btw - broken = not installable?
[12:30] <mypapit> Xgates, you dont need to compile the kernel
[12:31] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, c++ transition, lots of broken libraries and apps
[12:31] <nicolas_faf> sevas ok, that's all right, thank you
[12:31] <Seveas> dbus is broken now
[12:31] <mypapit> Xgates, you only need the headers.. the nvidia-glx installer will take cares the rest
[12:31] <Seveas> Xgates, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:32] <Xgates> mypapit, yes I did for getting my snd card working at least SO I thought, I'm using a Audigy LS and it doesn't have support for Alsa in the kernel, alsa-drivers needs to be compiled
[12:32] <nicolas_faf> seveas ok, that's all right, thank you
[12:32] <Seveas> nicolas_faf, yw :)
[12:32] <Seveas> marcin_ant, broken == not installable or applications using it won't work
[12:32] <Seveas> or plain buggy
[12:33] <Seveas> Lidia21, it's quite impolite to just start a private conversation without asking...
[12:33] <marcin_ant> Seveas: are there any build logs to see what packages are not installable?
[12:33] <Xgates> Seveas, the linux-headers 2.5.999.... one is installed already
[12:33] <mypapit> yeah.. my embeded box based on ubuntu start workin, though not as i intended, i still need some major tweaking todo
[12:33] <Seveas> marcin_ant, subscribe to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for all details :)
[12:33] <mypapit> lol
[12:34] <hardcampa-> Seveas Lidia21 is prolly a bot or something. Got kicked from gentoo anyway
[12:34] <Hussam> Lidia21 is a spammer
[12:34] <Seveas> marcin_ant, and http://people.ububtu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/ has the logs
[12:34] <sorush20> is it the debian package for mplayer that i need to download
[12:34] <nicolas_faf> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/
[12:34] <Seveas> hardcampa-, thnx for the info
[12:34] <Seveas> anybody else get private messages from Lidia21 ?
[12:34] <Xgates> should I also install the linux-headers-2.6.10-5?
[12:34] <HiddenWolf> seveas, haven't followed the list since friday, has it gotten worse? :)
[12:35] <aprill2k> I am having problems with DMA mode kfscking up my cpmputer, getting sector read errors
[12:35] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, not really
[12:35] <Hussam> Seveas: I did
[12:35] <Xgates> and remove the 2.5.999 one?
[12:35] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, it will be worse next week with all c++ apps being rebuilt :)
[12:35] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, when is it estimated that it'll 'work' more or less?
[12:36] <Xgates> mypapit, the 2.5.999 headers are installed by default, should I remove that and install the 2.6.10-5?
[12:36] <aprill2k> ban Lidia21, she is spam bot!!
[12:37] <Seveas> aprill2k, we know, I have alerted one of the ops
[12:37] <mypapit> Xgates, you should use header which correspond to your 'uname -r' linux release
[12:37] <aprill2k> Xgates, just type "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[12:38] <Hussam> do the ubuntu precompiled xfce packages have compositor enabled?
[12:38] <Echylo> Lidia21, a spam bot? :p
[12:38] <misieq> does anybody know where konqeror keeps bookmarks??
[12:39] <Xgates> putting headers isnt going to resolve this issue with just trying to install nvidia-glx by itself
[12:39] <sorush20> I'm trying to add a windows printer but its not working its on a home network.. any help
[12:40] <Xgates> and I have headers installed the 2.5.999 and if I remove it then it removes DEV tools and then I wont be able to compile
[12:40] <gorilla_> misieq, try ~/.konqeror this is just a  guess.. I haven't got it installed
[12:40] <Xgates> I dont see the point of having 2 sets of headers installed
[12:40] <aprill2k> ANyone have skippy DVD problems?
[12:40] <Xgates> I mean you just dont do that
[12:40] <aprill2k> skippy DVD playback?
[12:40] <misieq> gorilla_, nope, there's no such dir
[12:41] <misieq> i keep settings in ~/.kde, but i can't find it anywhere there
[12:41] <mjr> aprill2k, most likely you have dma disabled on the dvd drive; try sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/[dvd-drive]
[12:41] <gorilla_> misieq, oh sorry.. I'm lost then.. try google perhaps :-/
[12:41] <_hp_> how do i tell synaptic to ignore my broken packages?
[12:41] <Seveas> _hp_, read the manpage for apt.conf
[12:41] <Hussam> misieq: try         ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/
[12:41] <mjr> aprill2k, if it works, you can make it permanent via /etc/hdparm.conf (iirc)
[12:42] <Xgates> ---> Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10
[12:42] <aprill2k> mjr, yes -- that seems to do the trick -- but then when i enabled it after watching the DVD for a while I get I/O errors at sectors?!??!
[12:42] <Seveas> Xgates, try 2.6.10-$YOUR-ARCH
[12:42] <mjr> aprill2k, setting the dma while there's activity on the disc may result in weird errors
[12:42] <Seveas> as in 2.6.10-386 or -686 or -k7
[12:42] <Xgates> that doesnt work and I installed the 2.6.10-5 one in Synaptic and I still cant get the nvidia-glx to install by itself
[12:42] <aprill2k> mjr, i have heard that this problem is common, but no, i took out the disc and put it back in -- still does the I/O errors
[12:43] <Seveas> Qoppa, please do NOT use public away messages in here
[12:43] <mjr> aprill2k, though it is also possible that the drive can't do dma properly
[12:43] <misieq> Hussam, thanks, it's there
[12:43] <aprill2k> mjr, it does in Windows == this is a DVD-+RW
[12:43] <Xgates> Seveas, sorry what, this is the kernel I compiled --> linux-image-2.6.10_1_i386.deb
[12:43] <aprill2k> Xgates, type "apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" exactly as i put it there with the back ticks
[12:44] <mjr> aprill2k, the driver or the disk firmware may, with bad luck, remain confused after the fact; try rebootin or rmmodin and modprobing ide-cd again
[12:44] <aprill2k> mjr, no this was after a reboot!
[12:44] <mjr> aprill2k, hmh
[12:44] <Seveas> Xgates, you should switch to a -686 (Pentium) or -K7 (amd) kernel too...
[12:44] <aprill2k> mjr, i have heard it is commong but google does not show anything
[12:44] <Xgates> aprill2k, I did that I said :-) ---> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:44] <Xgates> ---> Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10
[12:45] <aprill2k> Xgates, type "uname -r" and tell me what it says
[12:45] <Seveas> try 2.6.10-386 Xgates
[12:45] <mjr> aprill2k, so, reboot, the hdparm thing without the drive active, and it still doesn't work properly?
[12:45] <mjr> aprill2k, then I don't know, might be some compatibility issue :I
[12:45] <aprill2k> mjr, if DMA is not enabled then DVD playback is skippy
[12:45] <mjr> yes, it does tend to be
[12:46] <Hussam> using apt-get, how can I download packages but not install them ( I just want to cache them )
[12:46] <spiral> hmmm, is there any new about firefox 1.0.4 in ubuntu ?
[12:46] <Seveas> Hussam, apt-get -d install <packagename>
[12:46] <Xgates> Seveas, nope, I dont get what we are trying to do here, Synaptic lists all the kernel headers by name
[12:46] <Seveas> spiral, ff in ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguise
[12:46] <Hussam> Seveas: thanks :)
[12:46] <Xgates> Seveas, btw I said before I compiled a kernel because I have a Audigy LS card and that is not supported in Alsa in the Kernel
[12:47] <aprill2k> Xgates, did you type "uname -r" dude?
[12:47] <ivoks> lol
[12:47] <ivoks> wtf is Lidia21 ?
[12:47] <Seveas> Xgates, if you use xchat, type this in xchat: /exec -o uname -r
[12:48] <Xgates> aprill2k, YO my MAN hehe I just typed to you and told you I did for the second time and said it dont work
[12:48] <Seveas> ivoks, an annoying bot
[12:48] <Xgates> LOL
[12:48] <jnk> mjr, last time I tried it doesn't work with /etc/hdparm.conf, because the init script is run before hotplug loads the cdrom module, so /dev/hdc or whatever doesn't exist yet
[12:48] <ivoks> hehe
[12:48] <Xgates> 2.6.10
[12:48] <spiral> Seveas: just the version number hidden ?
[12:48] <Seveas> but the ops are all sleeping
[12:48] <Xgates> Seveas, all you had to do was ask me what version I have
[12:48] <Xgates> hehe
[12:48] <Xgates> --> 2.6.10
[12:48] <Xgates> Seveas, I COMPILED my kernel
[12:48] <Xgates> :-)
[12:48] <Seveas> spiral, ff in ubuntu is 1.0.2 with all security patches applied, so it's actually 1.0.4
[12:49] <Seveas> ajmitch_ / daniels, are you around..?
[12:49] <Xgates> aprill2k, scroll up :-)
[12:49] <aprill2k> Xgates, you're tyelling me that the "uname -r" command doesnt work, or that it only shows "2.6.10"?????
[12:49] <Xgates> aprill2k, -----> http://pastebin.com/285053
[12:50] <Fackamato> has anyone successfully built her/his own kernel on ubuntu?
[12:50] <ivoks> yes
[12:50] <Seveas> Fackamato, lots of people :)
[12:50] <ivoks> lot of people :)
[12:50] <lapo> hi
[12:50] <Seveas> hi lapo
[12:51] <Fackamato> I haven't ;(
[12:51] <Fackamato> Must I build it in some special way?
[12:51] <ivoks> Fackamato you have time...
[12:51] <ivoks> don't rush
[12:51] <Fackamato> I just drag the source, make menuconfig > make > make modules_install and copy the system.map and kernel to /boot, edit grub and reboot, boot the kernel, poff, it doesn't work well
[12:51] <ivoks> Fackamato ask Xgates, he knows how to do it right way and he's eager to help you
[12:52] <Xgates> Seveas, I thought all I'm going to do is install one of the 2.6.10 headers, like the 2.6.10-5 one
[12:52] <Hussam> anyone using ubuntu xfce 4.2 packages?
[12:52] <Xgates> ivoks, no Im not
[12:52] <herzi> Seveas: it works, anacron has been the missing package
[12:52] <ivoks> Xgates yes you are
[12:52] <Seveas> herzi, good to know
[12:53] <Xgates> Im still trying to figure how to just install the nvidia-glx alone
[12:53] <ivoks> Xgates that package depends on nvidia-kernel
[12:53] <ivoks> Xgates you can't install only nvidia-glx... that's useless
[12:53] <mypapit> Xgates, the bottom line is... put whatever kernel sources/header you've compiled in /usr/src/linux, and execute that damn nvidia installer
[12:53] <ivoks> don't
[12:53] <ivoks> Xgates don't do it like that!
[12:53] <ivoks> man...
[12:54] <ivoks> Xgates apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source
[12:54] <Nabiki> bbl
[12:54] <ivoks> Xgates build modules with make-kpkg
[12:54] <Xgates> ivoks, I have the nvidia-kernel-source
[12:54] <ivoks> Xgates ok, it's in /usr/src
[12:54] <ivoks> Xgates unpack it
[12:54] <Xgates> yes
[12:54] <ivoks> Xgates then go to /usr/src/linux-source...
[12:55] <ivoks> Xgates and run make-kpkg --stem linux modules_image
[12:55] <ivoks> Xgates that will create nice nvidia-kernel package which you can install via dpkg -i
[12:55] <ivoks> Xgates and all packages that depend (like nvidia-glx) will be installable
[12:56] <ivoks> Xgates because dependcies will be ensured
[12:56] <ivoks> man... pice of cake..
[12:56] <Xgates> ivoks, ok wait compile the kernel, and then run --> make-kpkg --initrd --stem linux --revision=1 kernel_image modules_image ?
[12:56] <ivoks> Xgates no
[12:56] <ivoks> Xgates you allready compiled kernel
[12:56] <Xgates> ok
[12:56] <Xgates> ic
[12:56] <ivoks> Xgates you just need to do modules
[12:56] <Xgates> k
[12:56] <ivoks> Xgates make-kpkg modules_image
[12:57] <ivoks> Xgates make-kpkg will know what revision of kernel you have
[12:57] <Xgates> ok
[12:57] <ivoks> but, to be sure
[12:57] <ivoks> do it like this:
[12:57] <ivoks> make-kpkg --stem linux modules_image
[12:57] <Xgates> got it
[12:58] <ivoks> that's right
[12:58] <Xgates> Oooo --->  nvidia-kernel-2.6.10_1.0.7174-0ubuntu2+1_i386.deb
[12:58] <mikl> beware teh chanserv
[12:58] <Xgates> ivoks, :-)
[12:58] <Xgates> ok let me install
[12:58] <ivoks> Xgates install that package
[12:58] <Xgates> hehe
[12:58] <ivoks> and then apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:59] <Seveas> wtf
[12:59] <Seveas> daniels / bob2 ??
[12:59] <sorush20> guys what is a good media player that installes automatically on Ubuntu and plays mp3s
[12:59] <ivoks> Seveas what's the problem?
[12:59] <lapo> --stem, what is it for?
[12:59] <sorush20> can anyone help...
[12:59] <ivoks> sorush20 none
[12:59] <nevyn> /away
[12:59] <Seveas> sorush20, totem-xine
[01:00] <ivoks> lapo o ensure kernel image is called linux-image, not kernel-image
[01:00] <Burgundavia> sorush20, you need gstreamer-mad to play mp3s in rhythmbox, which is installed by default
[01:00] <ivoks> Burgundavia isn't
[01:00] <lapo> ivoks, it isn't in the manual page btw
[01:00] <ivoks> lapo yes there is, man make-kpkg
[01:00] <Burgundavia> ivoks, rhythmbox is installed by deafult, as it is part of gnome
[01:00] <lapo> ivoks, alredy done
[01:01] <Seveas> Burgundavia, but gstreamer0.8-mad isn't
[01:01] <ivoks> lapo or isn't :)
[01:01] <ivoks> let me check
[01:01] <Burgundavia> Seveas, oh, my wording was bad
[01:01] <Seveas> Burgundavia, sort of ;)
[01:01] <Burgundavia> sorush20, you need gstreamer-mad
[01:01] <ivoks> well... lapo isn't, but that's the way to do it
[01:01] <Xgates> ivoks, THANKS man
[01:01] <Xgates> brb
[01:01] <Burgundavia> sorush20, rb is installed by default, not gstreamer-mad
[01:01] <sorush20> okay.. thanks..
[01:01] <ivoks> lapo make-kpkg --help | grep stem
[01:02] <lapo> ivoks, it is what I was looking for !
[01:02] <ivoks> lapo if you ask me, that's bug in kernel-package
[01:02] <ivoks> maybe it's time to fix it...
[01:03] <Xgates> OH yeah
[01:03] <Xgates> :-)
[01:04] <mypapit> Xgates, looking good?
[01:04] <mypapit> lol
[01:04] <Xgates> yea MAN
[01:04] <Xgates> ok ONE last one
[01:04] <Xgates> hehe
[01:05] <BrianB04> Hey all
[01:05] <mypapit> wtf
[01:05] <Xgates> I have a Audigy LS card so I compiled the kernel over with no Alsa and only sound support as a <m>, then compiled the alsa-drivers source and installed it, NOW when I run like rhythmbox I get this ---> Alsa device "default" is already in use by another program
[01:05] <Xgates> hmm
[01:05] <ivoks> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto
[01:06] <Xgates> so in rcconf would I keep alsa, and alsasound on?
[01:06] <ivoks> Xgates ok...
[01:06] <ivoks> Xgates go to system, preferences
[01:06] <Xgates> k
[01:06] <ivoks> Xgates there should be a multimedia selector or something like that
[01:07] <xukun_> Xgates, me too
[01:07] <ivoks> i'm not on ubuntu now :(
[01:07] <Seveas> BrianB04, yes
[01:07] <Xgates> ivoks, ok open
[01:07] <misieq> is there any difference between ubuntu repo and debian once?
[01:07] <ivoks> Xgates choose ESD for input and output (audio)
[01:07] <BrianB04> Seveas, How? I have hunted, and I thought there was a group for it, but don't see any group listed in /etc/group for that...
[01:07] <Seveas> misieq, a lot :)
[01:07] <dballester> hi to all
[01:07] <Xgates> ivoks, ok done
[01:07] <ivoks> Xgates that's was default
[01:07] <Seveas> BrianB04, give that user the rights to use sudo for apt-get only
[01:07] <misieq> Seveas, which is erm... better?
[01:07] <ivoks> Xgates try now :)
[01:07] <Seveas> misieq, if you use ubuntu: ubuntu, if you use debian: debian
[01:08] <mypapit> BrianB04, hmm there is, but some "naugthy" user would run amok with apt-get in your system
[01:08] <Xgates> ivoks, hmm in Slackware I use to always use it on Alsa
[01:08] <ivoks> Xgates on slack you didn't have esd running
[01:08] <BrianB04> Oh, so you you have to use sudo no matter what. Well, my system is a single user system..so that's not an issue.
[01:08] <ivoks> on ubuntu you have
[01:08] <misieq> Seveas, can i apt-get some packages from debian repo? or is it going to harm my system?
[01:08] <Xgates> ivoks, yeah but then I'm not using Alsa on the system am I if ESD is picked?
[01:09] <ivoks> Xgates http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32063.html
[01:09] <misieq> There is no mplayer in ubuntu repo :(
[01:09] <Seveas> misieq, you can if you are very careful, but almost all of the debian repo is in the ubuntu repo
[01:09] <Xgates> personally I'd LOVE to kille esd and remove it
[01:09] <Seveas> misieq, there is!
[01:09] <Seveas> misieq, it's in multiverse
[01:09] <ivoks> lol
[01:09] <misieq> how can i check if i have a multiverse repo?
[01:09] <ivoks> 17G     var
[01:10] <Seveas> misieq, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <BrianB04> Hrmmm, now to figure out why instiki does not want to run.
[01:10] <Seveas> if you didn't add it, it's not enabled misieq
[01:10] <misieq> Seveas, what should the line look line?
[01:10] <misieq> i didn't
[01:10] <Xgates> ivoks, crap so I should do all that in that URL huh?
[01:10] <Xgates> hmm
[01:10] <misieq> this might be the thing :)
[01:10] <Seveas> misieq, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[01:11] <ivoks> Xgates copy paste
[01:11] <ivoks> Xgates or
[01:11] <ivoks> Xgates you can disable esd
[01:11] <ivoks> Xgates then you won't be able to hear gnome sounds, etc...
[01:11] <ivoks> just from apps
[01:11] <misieq> Seveas, shoul i add all lines to sources.list ??
[01:12] <Seveas> misieq, it will do no harm. If you add all these, you can remove all others since these lines contain all official ubuntu repositories
[01:12] <Xgates> gnome sounds hmm no biggie
[01:12] <Xgates> better to uninstall esd
[01:12] <ivoks> no
[01:13] <ivoks> just disable sound server
[01:13] <Xgates> no
[01:13] <Xgates> ahh
[01:13] <ivoks> system, preferences, sound
[01:13] <Xgates> I see
[01:13] <dballester> i wanna change the fonts/size of the ubuntu QT based applications ( fwbuilder, skype...) but i don't have the kde control center. Anybody know where ( application or file ) can be selected/informed the font type and size for QT based applications? TIA
[01:13] <ivoks> but i would suggest you to enable dmix, via url you just visited
[01:13] <mdke> ops please
[01:14] <Xgates> ivoks, crap I installed libesd-alsa0 and it removed some esd lib
[01:14] <Xgates> hmm
[01:14] <Xgates> cant remember the name
[01:14] <Xgates> hmm
[01:14] <ivoks> that's ok
[01:14] <misieq> Seveas, what for is mplayer-k7 package??
[01:14] <Xgates> ok
[01:15] <Seveas> misieq, for ubuntu you need mplayer-custom
[01:15] <Seveas> -k7 is for amd processors, but isn't working properly iirc
[01:15] <Xgates> ivoks, I found it --> libeds0
[01:15] <Xgates> :-)
[01:15] <Xgates> esd0 ....
[01:16] <xukun_> how can I fine-tunne ubuntu? I mean installing things like java and adobe
[01:16] <xukun_> ?
[01:16] <misieq> Seveas, it does not want to mark :/
[01:16] <ivoks> xukun_ ubuntuguide.org
[01:16] <Seveas> xukun: for adone: use the adobe installer
[01:16] <Seveas> ivoks, NO, ubuntuguide is wrong ert java
[01:16] <ivoks> is it?
[01:16] <ivoks> don't know ;)
[01:17] <Seveas> xukun_, for java: get the .bin file from sin, install java-package and run make-jpkg on the .bin file
[01:17] <lapo> xukun, apt-get java-package and use it for jave
[01:17] <misieq> Seveas, i click on mplayer-custom, select install it shows me some additional packages it has to install, i click on commit and then happens nothing
[01:17] <bad_mongo> which program do you guys use to watch wmv-files on the web?
[01:17] <misieq> what's wrong?
[01:17] <xukun_> now I,m confuse
[01:17] <Seveas> misieq, try sudo apt-get install mplayer-custom, it'll give you more info
[01:17] <herpes> Lidia21, is a spam bot thingee
[01:17] <TenebraeUnus> ban Lidia21
[01:18] <TenebraeUnus> bot
[01:18] <Seveas> herpes, TenebraeUnus, we know
[01:18] <mdke> TenebraeUnus, we are trying ;)
[01:18] <Seveas> but there are no ops around
[01:18] <lapo> bad_mongo, mozilla-mplayer
[01:19] <Xgates> OH yeah
[01:19] <misieq> Seveas, it says that mplayer-custom depends on libavcodec2, but it cannot be installed
[01:19] <Xgates> WoOT
[01:19] <Xgates> 24bit Audigy LS in the CusTom compiled Ubuntu
[01:19] <Xgates> LOL
[01:19] <mdke> alindeman, you here?
[01:20] <Seveas> misieq, what does it say when you try to install just the libavcodec2 with apt-get?
[01:20] <ivoks> Seveas could you do me favour?
[01:20] <ivoks> Seveas do you have debootstrap installated?
[01:20] <bad_mongo> lapo, hm, it won't work here..
[01:20] <marcin_ant> does anyone know when multisync will be fixed to work with evo 2.2?
[01:20] <Seveas> ivoks, yes
[01:21] <misieq> erm... "package libavcodec2 has no candidate for installation" (or something like this i think)
[01:21] <ivoks> Seveas could you send me scripts for ubuntu? (/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts)?
[01:21] <Seveas> misieq, hmm, you might need marillat stable for that
[01:21] <ivoks> i'm on sarge and don't have ubuntu scripts
[01:21] <ivoks> Seveas breezy would be nice :)
[01:21] <misieq> what is marillat?
[01:21] <mdke> misieq, are you installing mplayer from the multiverse repository?
[01:21] <Seveas> misieq, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[01:22] <Seveas> misieq add that to your sources.list
[01:22] <Seveas> ivoks, sorry, i only have hoary
[01:22] <mdke> Seveas, that is pretty dangerous! marillat
[01:22] <ivoks> Seveas ok, hoary is fine too :)
[01:22] <Seveas> mdke stable isn't dangerous
[01:22] <mdke> Seveas, it will cause some version conflicts with mplayer no?
[01:23] <mdke> best thing is to install mplayer from multiverse and get codecs manually, or from an unofficial ubuntu repo
[01:23] <Seveas> ivoks, http://kaarsemaker.net/~dennis/debootstrap-scripts.tar.gz
[01:23] <Xgates> say I left kernel automount compiled in the kernel but when I put in a cd now its not automountung
[01:23] <Xgates> automounting
[01:23] <Xgates> hmm
[01:24] <Xgates> I guess this is all I need to FIX
[01:24] <Xgates> hehe
[01:24] <ivoks> Seveas thanx
[01:24] <Xgates> dammm this has been FRIGGIN long time getting customized
[01:24] <misieq> Seveas i did and nothing changed
[01:25] <daniels> ah, I see madkiss's already sorted it
[01:25] <Seveas> daniels, we need more ops in here, is it possibly to apply for ops somewhere?
[01:26] <misieq> Seveas, there is only libavcodec1 when i browse repo with kyanptic
[01:26] <mdke> Seveas, via the CC
[01:26] <ivoks> Xgates don't use automount
[01:26] <ivoks> Xgates use dbus/hal/gnome-volume-manager
[01:27] <misieq> and still i does not want to install
[01:27] <Seveas> misieq, try marillat testing then (replace stable with testing in the line i sent you earlier)
[01:27] <Seveas> misieq, this is the non-free problem that hits all distros unfortunately
[01:27] <mdke> meh
[01:27] <mdke> misieq, just search the net for a w32codecs deb package, download and install it
[01:28] <ivoks> use free formatr
[01:28] <mdke> i think that should be enough
[01:28] <nalioth> howdy
[01:28] <Xgates> ivoks, yeah dbus/hal/is running installed
[01:28] <misieq> Seveas, there is one in repo. shoul i install it?
[01:28] <Xgates> ivoks, BUT should I remove these from the kernel
[01:29] <Xgates> --> <M> Kernel automounter support
 Kernel automounter version 4 support (also supports v3)
[01:29] <Burgundavia> misieq, it is part of the hoary-backports project
[01:29] <Burgundavia> misieq, check the forums
[01:29] <Xgates> ivoks, those are compiled in as mods by default I believe
[01:29] <ivoks> Xgates sure
[01:29] <mdke> misieq, Burgundavia is right. Check this page too: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats <-- it will tell you all you need to know
[01:29] <ivoks> Xgates you don't need automount
[01:29] <daniels> Seveas: i'll mention it
[01:29] <Xgates> ivoks, remove those?
[01:29] <ivoks> Xgates if you want, yes
[01:30] <Xgates> k
[01:30] <Seveas> daniels, thanks
[01:30] <mdke> daniels, Seveas the community council agenda has been discussing the question of ops for a while
[01:30] <Xgates> ivoks, now what about dbus/hal does it need any kernel support?
[01:30] <mdke> Seveas, best thing is to turn up to the next meeting and volunteer
[01:30] <ivoks> no
[01:30] <Seveas> mdke, i know, and it's good that there are some, but we simply need more to cover all timezones so i am going to volunteer :)
[01:30] <mdke> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[01:30] <Seveas> mdke, I was there already
[01:31] <Seveas> need to fix my wikipage and i'll add myself
[01:31] <mdke> Seveas, the idea was that all community members would be able to op up
[01:31] <Xgates> ivoks, well in rcconf I have this checked -->  [*]  dbus-1
[01:31] <johng> mmm gcc 4 was just installed
[01:31] <LiEn>
[01:31] <ivoks> Xgates what's bothering you?
[01:31] <Seveas> LiEn, please speak english in here
[01:31] <Xgates> ivoks,  and in /etc/init.d  dbus-1 is executable, so why will it not automount the cd?
[01:31] <Xgates> ivoks, cd wont automount is what
[01:31] <Xgates> hmm
[01:31] <ivoks> Xgates maybe you told it so?
[01:32] <Xgates> told it?
[01:32] <ivoks> Xgates gnome-volume-properties, IRC
[01:32] <Xgates> Ijust put a cd in the rom is all
[01:32] <Xgates> ivoks, how?
[01:32] <Xgates> gnome-volume?
[01:32] <Xgates> hmm
[01:32] <ivoks> Xgates gnome-volume-properties
[01:32] <Nabiki>  I have a semi-unrelated logic question.  What is the propper value of ((int) -1.5)  ?
[01:32] <Xgates> ok so what would I do or check not sure
[01:33] <ivoks> Xgates gnome-volume-properties
[01:33] <ivoks> Xgates gnome-volume-properties
[01:33] <ivoks> just run that
[01:33] <Xgates> k
[01:33] <Xgates> hmm
[01:34] <Xgates> Volume managemet not supported the hald service is required but not running
[01:34] <Xgates> hmm
[01:34] <Xgates> why not running odd
[01:34] <ivoks> Xgates /etc/init.d/hald restart
[01:34] <ivoks> did u chmod -x that too?
[01:34] <ivoks> :))
[01:35] <srid> I am creating debian package for anjuta, where should I host it?
[01:35] <Xgates> no odd there is no hald in there
[01:35] <srid> I mean Anjuta2
[01:35] <Xgates> I dont know what I uninstalled that would of removed it
[01:35] <ubuntu> uppps!!!!
[01:35] <Xgates> hmm
[01:35] <ivoks> Xgates then /etc/init.d/dbus* restart
[01:35] <ubuntu> hi & bye
[01:36] <Xgates> hmm
[01:36] <ik-ppc> hi
[01:37] <Xgates> started and I put a cd in and it spun up but no icon on the desktop for it
[01:37] <Xgates> darn
[01:37] <ivoks> apt-get install hald
[01:37] <ivoks> or something
[01:37] <Xgates> k
[01:37] <ivoks> i don't know, not running ubuntu right now
[01:37] <ik-ppc> i have a problem whith volumen control it says no mixer divecies
[01:38] <geogeo> hello dudes
[01:38] <Xgates> ivoks, odd they where installed already, hmm oh well I reinstalled
[01:39] <Xgates> brb
[01:39] <Xgates> ivoks, thanks again
[01:39] <Xgates> :-)
[01:39] <Xgates> ivoks, to bad I cant DCC ya a 6 pack
[01:39] <Xgates> lol
[01:40] <jorisK> Hello everyone, a easy question: how do i install a .deb file?
[01:40] <dcraven> jorisK: dpkg -i mypackage.deb
[01:41] <dcraven> jorisK: "man dpkg" for more info.
[01:42] <jorisK> I'm trying to start Looking Glass but it complains about my $OSTYPE, anyone that can tell me where to find this string ????
[01:42] <jorisK> and thnx dcraven
[01:42] <Myrtti> could somebody help me with a broken automount? please.
[01:43] <misieq> Seveas, as they said, i added "deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" line in synaptic, but when it tries to refresh repo, i get following error:
[01:43] <jon273> eh?
[01:43] <misieq> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 500 Internal Server Error
[01:43] <Seveas> backports stink
[01:43] <jon273> How come root can't access the key files in /etc/ssh ?
[01:43] <misieq> what should i do about it?
[01:43] <Seveas> backports stink a lot, even building from source or installing from marillat are better
[01:44] <Seveas> jon273, what's the error
[01:44] <jpfarias> hi!
[01:44] <chocoIate> back, still cant get to connect from ubuntu ; I have both an internal 56k modem and an external ISDN modem. i tried this --->> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto but nothing seems to happen when i type sudo pon in the terminal. I also tried to use WvDial as suggest by someone here but it fails with unable to detect modem :S
[01:44] <jon273> when i do ls/rm in /etc/ssh i get permission denied for the ket files
[01:44] <geogeo> hey dudes, anybody of you know why I can't use gcc ?
[01:44] <chocoIate> anybody got ideas :o
[01:44] <jorisK> geogeo, it's not installed by default
[01:44] <geogeo> I have to create some links with the libraries or ..?
[01:44] <Burgundavia> Seveas, hoary-extras is seperate fromt eh backports
[01:44] <Seveas> geogeo, maybe, if you say what's wrong eith it...
[01:44] <geogeo> I installed it
[01:44] <Burgundavia> Seveas, and is better than marilliat
[01:44] <geogeo> a lot of errors
[01:45] <geogeo> he can't find iostream, ie
[01:45] <geogeo> test.c:23: error: `x' undeclared (first use in this function)
[01:45] <geogeo> test.c:23: error: `y' undeclared (first use in this function)
[01:45] <geogeo> for endl, for cout...for all the functions
[01:45] <Seveas> jon273, try chmod'ing them first
[01:45] <Seveas> geogeo, did you #include <iostream>
[01:45] <geogeo> there is maybe a variable to export ?
[01:45] <geogeo> yeah of course
[01:46] <Seveas> geogeo, can you paste your test.c somewhere
[01:46] <dcraven> geogeo: did you install build-essential? You are using g++ I assume..
[01:46] <geogeo> build-essential ?
[01:46] <Xgates> say when I boot up now withouth the ntpdate I get it saying twice in the console loading the system clock from the system bios, hardware clock, why does it print this 2 times, and where can I edit this out?
[01:46] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:46] <dcraven> geogeo: Yeah.. You probably don't have g++ installed.
[01:46] <jon273> Seveas: i get permission denied when i try and chmod them too
[01:46] <Seveas> g++ -o testprog test.c
[01:46] <misieq> Seveas, in synaptic i get follwoing error when i try to install libavcodec2: "libavcodec2:
[01:46] <misieq>   Depends: libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[01:46] <misieq>   Depends: libvorbisenc2 (>=1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed"
[01:46] <misieq> should i install libvorbis then?
[01:46] <jorisK> I'm trying to run LG3D but when starting it complains my $OSTYPE is not set. Anyone that can tell me where i can define this variable in Hoary?
[01:47] <geogeo> II have installed g++
[01:47] <Seveas> jon273, are you sure you are root?
[01:47] <ivoks> jorisK export OSTYPE="Linux"
[01:47] <ivoks> bye, time to go
[01:47] <Seveas> misieq, hmm, dependency problems all over the place...
[01:47] <jon273> Seveas: absoluetly. I logged into console as root, a have also tried su - as my user
[01:48] <jorisK> ivoks, do i need to enter that in my bashrc?
[01:48] <misieq> and libvorbis is installed in most current version which is 1.0.1-1
[01:48] <Seveas> jon273, try chmod u+x /etc/ssh
[01:48] <ivoks> jorisK wouldn't hurt
[01:48] <misieq> should i download src and install it?
[01:48] <Seveas> misieq, i think it is best
[01:48] <geogeo> #include <iostream.h>
[01:48] <geogeo> void main()
[01:48] <geogeo> {
[01:48] <geogeo> cout << "coucou" << endl;
[01:48] <geogeo> }
[01:48] <jon273> Seveas: same..
[01:49] <Seveas> geogeo, fool :)
[01:49] <Seveas> #include <iostream>
[01:49] <Seveas> no .h in theree
[01:49] <dcraven> geogeo: Don't paste that kinda thing in here please.
[01:49] <misieq> starting with libvorbis? or just mplayer?
[01:49] <geogeo> it's the same ..!
[01:49] <geogeo> sorry dcraven
[01:49] <dcraven> int main
[01:49] <dcraven> return 0
[01:49] <Seveas> int main(int argc, char* argv[] )
[01:49] <Xgates> say in /etc/init.d ---> 'hwclockfirst.sh' & 'hwclock.sh' are these both used?
[01:49] <Xgates> looks about the same
[01:49] <Seveas> geogeo, read a c/c++ primer first...
[01:49] <dcraven> etc etc... Where did you get this example geogeo? It's a little dated.
[01:50] <geogeo> friend of mine
[01:50] <Seveas> jon273, can you ls -al /etc/ssh?
[01:50] <Seveas> geogeo, that friend of yours is a lousy programmer...
[01:50] <dcraven> geogeo: Well I would hope that wouldn't compile. It's incorrect.
[01:50] <cam_> isnt it
[01:50] <cam_> end 1;
[01:50] <geogeo> but it doesn't compile
[01:50] <jon273> Seveas: yeah, it lists some files, but gives permission denied for the key files
[01:50] <cam_> returns 1 to the end function
[01:50] <dcraven> geogeo: It's not supposed to.
[01:50] <cam_> =P
[01:50] <geogeo> ah ?
[01:51] <Seveas> cam_, stop talking nonsense
[01:51] <cam_> ;)
[01:51] <Seveas> jon273, can you paste the output of ls -al /etc/ssh on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[01:51] <geogeo> I've got a lot of errors, undeclared, num "undeclared"...
[01:51] <geogeo> I've missed some math library or ?
[01:51] <Seveas> geogeo, the friend who sent you that missed some clue
[01:52] <jon273> Seveas: i'm using irssi on an ssh session from ubuntu box - it's got no gui.
[01:52] <Seveas> jon273, in a private chat will do too
[01:52] <klaas> Good morning (at least in here.. ;-) )
[01:52] <jon273> Seveas: how can i cut/paste stuff using the console though?
[01:53] <Myrtti> can the use of mount break the automount?
[01:53] <iface> i am going to install gnome-cpufreq-applet, but if i accept it wants to deinstall gnome-applets, gnome-applets-data & ubuntu-desktop. so, what are the consequences if i proceed?
[01:53] <Seveas> jon273, good point, can't irssi do that? on xchat i have /exec -o :)
[01:53] <Xgates> hmm the RH installer ---> /etc/init.d/anacron
[01:53] <Xgates> lol
[01:53] <jon273> Seveas: i don't know, i hardly ever use irssi. I have no gui in this case, so I have to
[01:54] <Xgates> ahh anaconda I think RH calls it
[01:54] <Xgates> hehe
[01:54] <jorisK> anyone here that got Looking Glass working on his Ubuntu? I followed the forums howto but i'm receiving a strange error when starting up
[01:55] <Kels>  you guys think this distro would work on a 2002 hp laptop without adding anything im fairly new to linux?
[01:55] <Seveas> geogeo, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/41
[01:55] <Seveas> THAT is how you use c++
[01:55] <geogeo> ok thank you, I'll take a look
[01:55] <drcodedd2> hi all
[01:56] <klaas> I just ran into something I don't understand at all.. Somehow (without upgrade or other changes) the colour of my windows (using human theme) are all white... they used to be grey... can anyone help?
[01:56] <drcodedd2> any one know nntp reader for linux?
[01:56] <dcraven> geogeo: Compare your source with this source, which does compile --> http://arker.homelinux.org/~dcraven/test.cc
[01:56] <Fackamato> How do I make an initrd image?
[01:56] <drcodedd2> I mean gui?
[01:56] <Seveas> drcodedd2, pan
[01:56] <Xgates> is EVMS a part of LVM?
[01:56] <drcodedd2> thanx
[01:56] <Seveas> Fackamato, mkinitrd
[01:57] <jon273> I can't even remove the files as root, wtf is goin on?
[01:57] <andrewubuntu> Kels checkout http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ to see if anyone has installed any linux on your model
[01:57] <geogeo> Seveas, u rock
[01:57] <geogeo> dcraven, you too
[01:57] <Kels> hello?
[01:57] <Seveas> dcraven, using namespace std is more elegant imho ;)
[01:57] <klaas> hi
[01:57] <Kels> k
[01:58] <jon273> Seveas: ah, filesystem corruption
[01:58] <dcraven> Seveas: So I noticed :)
[01:58] <andrewubuntu> i installed 5.04 (hoary) on my moms compaq pressario 1900xl without a hitch
[01:58] <Seveas> jon273, fsck to the rescue (hopefully)
[01:58] <jon273> hm, brb
[01:58] <Seveas> Kels, on my hp/compag nc6000 it works like a charm
[01:59] <Tomcat_> andrewubuntu: That's good. :)
[01:59] <klaas> Kels: Works on my Dell Latitude 510.
[02:00] <klaas> Kels: Sorry I had to scroll back first to see your question.
[02:00] <madzzoni> Is it me or are the http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports down?? I get errors i synaptic
[02:01] <Seveas> madzzoni, backports is fubar again
[02:01] <andrewubuntu> except of course (heres the snag) im having problems with my printer. is an hp720c, which is a PPA (HP Closed standard, since abandoned) printer. I added it thru the add printer app in gnome (ubuntu) and it correctly setup PNMtoPPA
[02:01] <klaas> So.. has anybody had strange GTK2 behaviour such as I do? bakcground colours changing without any obvious change?
[02:01] <Kels> the only thing they got to work is mandrake i dont like mandrake :x
[02:01] <madzzoni> That mean's??
[02:02] <Seveas> madzzoni, that it's down :)
[02:02] <andrewubuntu> now i can spool a page to it, but it prints about 1 inch of the top of the page then hangs
[02:02] <andrewubuntu> but what it does print is correct...
[02:03] <andrewubuntu> [sorry so newbie but]  how should i troubleshoot this thing
[02:03] <Seveas> andrewubuntu, i had that once
[02:03] <tested1> when I do a sudo make && make modules_install I end up getting this mkdir: cannot create directory `/lib/modules/2.6.11': Permission denied
[02:03] <Seveas> i solved it with a hammer
[02:03] <Xgates> in Ubuntu for Grub do you add ide-cd on the end like:
[02:03] <Xgates> --> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hda7 ro quiet splash ide-cd
[02:03] <Seveas> and bought a new printer :)
[02:03] <Qoppa> nice hammer
[02:04] <madzzoni> OK, hope it will be back soon! (miss it)
[02:04] <andrewubuntu> hmmm well maybe ill pick one up at dayton
[02:04] <andrewubuntu> which printer did you get that worked so well?
[02:04] <Kels> what is acpi
[02:04] <Kels> ?
[02:05] <tested1> power management
[02:05] <klaas> Xgates: Is that a way to boot from your cd in grub?
[02:05] <dcraven> tested1: Run the second command as root too (sudo).
[02:05] <klaas> Doesn't look like it though. Do you know how to do that?
[02:05] <tested1>  H thanks
[02:05] <Kels> if i had a premade .config how do i install it
[02:06] <tested1> ubuntu uses it by default I believe
[02:06] <tested1> its generally part of the kernel
[02:06] <Xgates> klaas, no since in 2.6x ide-scsi is becoming outdated ide-cd is the new norm
[02:06] <Xgates> brb
[02:07] <andrewubuntu> anyone: best printer ever for ubuntu linux (need to setup my mom and it needs to work  ;)
[02:07] <jorisK> Anyone who knows how to see if Ubuntu is using software rendering or 3D rendering for my ATI card?
[02:07] <yahalom> how can i download language support .deb packages and burn them to cd?
[02:07] <jeroen_> yahalom, archive.ubuntu.com
[02:07] <dcraven> andrewubuntu: Epson Stylus.
[02:08] <yahalom> jeroen_: thanx
[02:08] <Seveas> yahalom, but beware, language-support packages need others too!
[02:08] <dcraven> andrewubuntu: That's an opinion btw.
[02:08] <Seveas> yahalom, which one do you need?
[02:08] <tested1> I use a epson stylus photo 960 works great with gimp-print and cups
[02:08] <yahalom> Seveas: hebrew
[02:09] <Zambba> How can I install libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 ?
[02:09] <andrewubuntu> is so weird. this page (linuxprinting) http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_720C says that 720c with drivers works "Perfectly"
[02:09] <yahalom> Seveas: like openoffice-il
[02:09] <yahalom> Seveas: like kde-il
[02:09] <klaas> yahalom: apt-get -d {packages}, maybe it'll get the dependencies too.
[02:09] <yahalom> Seveas: stuff like that
[02:09] <andrewubuntu> i also have a stylus 740i, works fine with cups
[02:09] <Zambba> apt-get says the newest version is 2.3.2.ds1-20 but I need -21
[02:09] <geogeo> anyone here knows a little bit about fractals drawing ?
[02:09] <geogeo> or fractals programming
[02:09] <yahalom> klaas: the whole point is that i wont have an internet connection, so i need to make a cd with the language support to install on site
[02:09] <we2by> when I mouse over a mp3 file when browsing folders, can I configure my pc so it plays the file when I mouse over it>?
[02:09] <klaas> yahalom: If you run apt-get clean beforehand, you can find the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:09] <Determinist> any of you guys happens to know a nice file manager that has a two split panels? something like total commander for windows or an X compatible MC thing?
[02:10] <tridion> Determinist: try worker or gentoo
[02:10] <dcraven> Determinist: gnome-commander?
[02:10] <Seveas> yahalom, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/42 those packages make up language-support-he
[02:10] <klaas> yahalom: When you get them, burn them.
[02:10] <Determinist> tridion, gentoo? isnt that a distro? :)
[02:10] <Determinist> dcraven, thanks
[02:10] <jeroen_> Determinist, gentoo is a distro
[02:11] <Seveas> geogeo, there are LOTS of tutorials about that
[02:11] <klaas> yahalom: A filemanager as well.
[02:11] <Seveas> giyf :)
[02:11] <hybrid_school> Determinist: it is a distro that lets you do whatever
[02:11] <tridion> Determinist: yes but also a filemanager
[02:11] <dcraven> Determinist: But gentoo has a nice filemanager... lol
[02:11] <Determinist> ohh , i know that , but i missed the part that said how suggesting a distro is relevant for a filemanager :)
[02:11] <geogeo> yeah Seveas i see that, but a lot of c++ source files are failing while compiling
[02:11] <Determinist> ohh , ok , didnt know that
[02:11] <tridion> Determinist: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/
[02:11] <hybrid_school> dcraven: heh
[02:11] <hybrid_school> doesnt gentoo mean penguin
[02:11] <Seveas> geogeo, maybe they need some libraries to be installed :)
[02:12] <jdub> it's a kind of penguin
[02:12] <dcraven> hybrid_school: It's a species.
[02:12] <hybrid_school> ah
[02:12] <hybrid_school> ok
[02:12] <tridion> Determinist: http://www.boomerangsworld.de/worker/  -- Worker
[02:12] <jdub> (some of the ubuntu servers are named after penguins - one of them is called gentoo...)
[02:12] <iface> #ubuntu-de
[02:12] <yahalom> Seveas: how to i acquire them now, in order to burn them?
[02:12] <hybrid_school> well i got to go to school see you all tonite
[02:12] <yahalom> Seveas: no way of apt-getting them and then burning right?
[02:12] <hybrid_school> g'bye
[02:13] <yahalom> klaas: file manager?
[02:13] <Seveas> yahalom, apt-get -d downloads them
[02:13] <dcraven> Man, I can't even get simple recursion to work this morning.. Maybe I should take the day off from programming.
[02:13] <Seveas> then you can find them in /var/lib/apt/
[02:13] <klaas> yahalom: Sorry, wrong name.. other discussion.
[02:13] <yahalom> klaas: np
[02:13] <trondd> The gentoo distro is not the same as the gentoo file manager!!!
[02:13] <yahalom> Seveas: i have them already. i need them for another pc that has no internet connection.
[02:14] <Seveas> then you can find them in /var/lib/apt/ :)
[02:14] <w0wie> splashimage=(hd2,1)/grub/FILE.xpm.gz <-- does that mean on grub hdc2 or hdc1?
[02:14] <yahalom> Seveas: so just copy them from there and burn them?
[02:14] <Seveas> w0wie, it would be hdb3 in linux language
[02:14] <klaas> yahalom: Yup
[02:14] <Seveas> hdc2 i mean, sorry
[02:15] <w0wie> Seveas: heh then http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuArtwork has an error which confused me
[02:15] <Seveas> yahalom, yes indeed, just the .deb files
[02:15] <yahalom> Seveas: no .deb in there man
[02:15] <srid> Anjuta2 Compiled! http://www.livejournal.com/users/seedar/10893.html
[02:15] <Determinist> ohh , that's nice , a filemanager that has dependencies with 22 different packages , who the hell writes these things?
[02:15] <Seveas> yahalom, /var/lib/apt/archives then :)
[02:15] <klaas> Maybe in your working dir.
[02:15] <yahalom> Seveas: i have two dir: lists and periodic
[02:15] <H3LLRAIS3> hello
[02:15] <Seveas> w0wie, thxs, i'll correct it
[02:16] <w0wie> if i stuff up my boot manager how do i boot into ubuntu via the cd
[02:16] <yahalom> Seveas: No such file or directory
[02:16] <w0wie> Seveas: np
[02:16] <klaas> yahalom: #apt-get clean && apt-get -d {packages} && cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* .
[02:16] <jpfarias> hey
[02:16] <Determinist> anyone ever attempted using xcompmgr and transset with an intel GFX card and not an Nvidia one according to the tutorial on the forums?
[02:16] <yahalom> klaas: what will that do?
[02:16] <jpfarias> can I use debian packages on ubuntu?
[02:17] <Seveas> yahalom, exactly what you want :)
[02:17] <yahalom> jpfarias: u are using debian packages on ubuntu :)
[02:17] <Seveas> jpfarias, it's possible but not recommended
[02:17] <Seveas> yahalom, not really
[02:17] <jpfarias> hehe
[02:17] <klaas> yahalom: Clear the downoaded packages, download the required packages, and copy them to the current dir.
[02:17] <Seveas> jpfarias, what do you want to install
[02:17] <jpfarias> gazpacho
[02:17] <yahalom> Seveas: ? slightly modified?
[02:17] <jpfarias> and pygme
[02:17] <dcraven> Determinist: The people who write those things are the people that don't want to code the same crap that others have already coded all over again.
[02:18] <jpfarias> it appears they are not at ubuntu repositories
[02:18] <yahalom> klaas: u wanted me to copy it the way it was?
[02:18] <Seveas> yahalom, modified, rebuilt, made stable, derooted, patched...
[02:18] <yahalom> Seveas: ah ok
[02:18] <Determinist> dcraven, well , ok , that's fine and nice , but 22 dependencies? i mean , it's just a frontend that runs shell commands , how the hell could it possibly need 22 different libraries that arent even included with ubuntu by default with it's full-blown gnome?
[02:18] <yahalom> jpfarias: sorry man :)
[02:19] <klaas> yahalom: all packages that are downloaded through apt are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[02:19] <Seveas> jpfarias gazpacho is
[02:19] <Determinist> dcraven, it's a nice filemanager tho , i'll give it that :)
[02:19] <Seveas> dunno about pygme
[02:19] <klaas> yahalom: apt-get clean removes all packages from that directory. they are not needed since they're already installed.
[02:19] <yahalom> klaas: i get u, just it said that {packages} doesn exist
[02:19] <jpfarias> apt-cache search gazpacho returns nothing
[02:19] <geogeo> thank you dude for assisting me \o/
[02:19] <geogeo> have a good day
[02:19] <Seveas> it does here :)
[02:19] <dcraven> Determinist: It's just a front end to shell commands?
[02:19] <Seveas> it's in universe, have you enabled that jpfarias ?
[02:19] <jpfarias> Seveas, what repository?
[02:20] <klaas> yahalom: {packages} should be replaced with the packages you need..
[02:20] <jpfarias> Seveas, no
[02:20] <jpfarias> Seveas, how do I enable it?
[02:20] <norbert> hello
[02:20] <Seveas> see AddingRepositoriesHowto on the wiki
[02:20] <yahalom> klaas: oj
[02:20] <Fackamato> /dev/hda2       /mnt/hda2       auto    exec,rw,user,notail,noatime     0       1
[02:20] <norbert> Are anybody from Poland?
[02:20] <yahalom> klaas: ok
[02:20] <Seveas> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:20] <Fackamato> why isn't this partition mounted with exec permissions?
[02:20] <Seveas> Fackamato, depends on the fstype...
[02:21] <jpfarias> found it on sources.list
[02:21] <jpfarias> ;)
[02:21] <Seveas> jpfarias, :)
[02:21] <Xgates> I dont get this in /var/log/messages and syslog I get this --> No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
[02:21] <Determinist> dcraven, yeah ... i mean , why would it possibly need to do anything else? it reads filenames , offers you to delete , rename , copy etc , these are things one could do with ... zenity and php , if one was bored enough , but surely not require 22 different libraries to have it done
[02:21] <Fackamato> Seveas: reiserfs
[02:21] <Seveas> jpfarias, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38 is a complete sources.list for ubuntu
[02:21] <Xgates> and in the kernel I compiled I compiled that in -->  [*]    Automatic kernel module loading
[02:21] <klaas> yahalom: you might want to create a new dir. in your homedirectory and run the commands from within that directory. there.
[02:21] <dcraven> Determinist: I'll assume you don't do much programming ;P
[02:23] <jpfarias> Seveas, thanks
[02:23] <Determinist> dcraven, havent done any C programming under linux yet , no , but i did write my share of win32 apps and quite afew php/perl scripts
[02:23] <Xgates> why is it saying  No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. when I have the kernel mods enabled
[02:23] <Xgates> hmm
[02:23] <Determinist> dcraven, i may be using the wrong concepts , but please enlighten me if you can , i'll be more than happy to learn anything new i can
[02:25] <Seveas> Determinist, under windows almost everything is compiled statically apart from some windows dlls, under linux there are much more shared libraries which are in their own packages
[02:25] <Seveas> saves a lot of space
[02:25] <Di42lo> What is the name of the pkg contains the C documents ?
[02:26] <we2by> can configure gnome so that hen I mouse over a audio file, it begins to play it?
[02:26] <Flav> Di42lo: gcc-doc
[02:27] <dcraven> Di42lo: If you mean man pages, they're in glibc-doc.
[02:27] <Determinist> Seveas, alright , that seems logical , but correct me if i'm wrong , wouldnt linking the required libs statically be better space-wise than having to install 22 full libs for a function or two in each just to get it done? i mean , since space isnt that much of a function these days i could see how that could be simple programming , but still , not very efficient resource-wise

[02:27] <marcin_ant> norbert: hi
[02:27] <jbailey> dcraven: glibc-doc doesn't have manpages, look in manpages-dev
[02:27] <Determinist> gonna stop giving you nice lads a headache now , i think.
[02:28] <Fackamato> why isn't this partition mounted with exec permissions? It's reiserfs. /dev/hda2       /mnt/hda2       auto    exec,rw,user    0       2
[02:28] <dcraven> jbailey: Oh. I know the pthread manpages are in there because I had to install it to get them. I assumed the others were in there too.
[02:29] <jbailey> dcraven: Eh?  Hmm.  I thought we didn't ship any with and had pushed them into manpages-dev, too.
[02:29] <jbailey> dcraven: Upstream doesn't maintain them, so we've avoided including them.
[02:29] <Xgates> say where do you get libdvdcss?
[02:29] <dcraven> jbailey: no biggie. It was a bugger to find them though :)
[02:30] <klaas> Xgates: add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main to your apt-sources.
[02:30] <xukun_> I wonder if you guys use virus tools or firewalls for ubuntu?
[02:30] <Xgates> ahh thats what I thought
[02:30] <Xgates> :-)
[02:30] <Xgates> klaas, thanks
[02:30] <jeroen_> xukun, no virus tools
[02:30] <we2by> can configure gnome so that hen I mouse over a audio file, it begins to play it?
[02:30] <Fackamato> xukun: no, no reason
[02:31] <jeroen_> I use a firewall though
[02:31] <klaas> we2by: No idea.
[02:31] <H3LLRAIS3> hello
[02:31] <xukun_> which one
[02:31] <xukun_> ?
[02:31] <H3LLRAIS3> i was reading breezy features on distrowatch
[02:31] <H3LLRAIS3> i like to contribute
[02:31] <H3LLRAIS3> how doi i go about...
[02:31] <jeroen_> iptables
[02:31] <Flav> xukun_: clamav is pretty popular as a virus scanner
[02:32] <xukun_> Flav, thanks
[02:32] <jeroen_> Flav, that's a windows virusscanner, right?
[02:32] <jeroen_> windows-virusses scanner
[02:32] <H3LLRAIS3> haha
[02:33] <xukun_> jeroen_, iptables he?
[02:33] <H3LLRAIS3> I was reading breezy features and I want to contribute to it in some way - I am working as a network administrator
[02:33] <Xgates> klaas, say you know where the Ubuntu URL is for dealing with marillat and public key errors the commands to run so you dont have to deal with it
[02:33] <Xgates> I remember reading that
[02:33] <Xgates> forgot the URL though
[02:34] <jeroen_> xukun, yep
[02:34] <klaas> Xgates: I think marillat doesn't publish a gpg-key.
[02:34] <xukun_> jeroen_, I have no knowlegde of iptables, but I would like to learn one day
[02:34] <klaas> Xgates: It's actually a debian repos. and Debian doesn't use gpg by default.
[02:34] <H3LLRAIS3> iptables r simple
[02:35] <H3LLRAIS3> just read on how to add rules and thats it
[02:35] <xukun_> H3LLRAIS3, read where?
[02:35] <jeroen_> xukun_, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IptablesHowTo
[02:35] <dcraven> H3LLRAIS3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/participate
[02:35] <H3LLRAIS3> google it dear
[02:35] <xukun_> jeroen_, thanks
[02:35] <klaas> xukun_: Try shorewall..
[02:35] <H3LLRAIS3> thx
[02:35] <xukun_> H3LLRAIS3, yes dear
[02:35] <Xgates> klaas, I think this is what I mean
[02:36] <Xgates> gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
[02:36] <Xgates> gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:36] <Xgates> sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <xukun_> klaas, what is that?
[02:36] <wnight> dmesg is full of smb_lookup: find foo/bar.jpg failed, error=-512. and usb 3-3: canon timed out on ep0in, followed by many similar FAT: Directory bread(block 485) failed errors. ANy ideas?
[02:36] <klaas> xukun_: A wrapper for iptables.
[02:36] <klaas> xukun_: It's really nice.
[02:37] <xukun_> klaas, ok
[02:37] <jeroen_> klaas, sounds nice
[02:37] <klaas> Xgates: Don't know, I've never really used gpg for apt, and in ubuntu all works well by default. The only thing i did with it was when i had to (was forced) to install a fedora machine.
[02:38] <H3LLRAIS3> i think in fedora u can user rpm to import keys
[02:38] <klaas> H3LLRAIS3: I believe I used that yes.
[02:39] <Orunitia> if I wanted to dual boot another linux distro with ubuntu, could I use the same swap partition for both?
[02:39] <klaas> Xgates: Anyway, I just enter 'y' everytime an update from debian-marillat comes popping up.
[02:39] <jeroen_> Orunitia, yes
[02:39] <Determinist> is there a way to create a link that'll start an application with root permissions? similiar to what would happen if i opened a root terminal and execute an application?
[02:40] <Orunitia> thanks
[02:40] <mjr> Orunitia, yes, unless you wish to hibernate one and boot the other
[02:40] <jeroen_> Determinist, gksudo blabla
[02:40] <Determinist> thanks
[02:40] <Orunitia> mjr, no I just feel like messing around with different distros
[02:40] <klaas> Determinist: What are the current permissions of the target binary?
[02:41] <Xgates> klaas, yeah thats the ones you need to type in
[02:41] <Xgates> :-)
[02:41] <Xgates> they worl
[02:41] <Xgates> work ...
[02:41] <Xgates> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:41] <Xgates> under ---> Repositories
[02:41] <Xgates> :-)
[02:42] <klaas> Xgates: I don't understand really.. sorry.
[02:42] <Xgates> klaas, its a public key issue
[02:43] <klaas> Xgates: I'm opening the URL you passed as we speak.. ;-)
[02:43] <Xgates> when you add in marillat and run Synaptic you'll get a public key error in it
[02:43] <Xgates> but you run those commands for a key and it stops the error
[02:43] <Xgates> :-)
[02:44] <klaas> Xgates: will this work if i only add the stable branch as well?
[02:44] <klaas> Xgates: Most likely eh..
[02:45] <Xgates> klaas, well the stable branch from what I gather doesnt have this pgp thing going on
[02:45] <Determinist> klaas, gksudo is what i needed , thanks tho :)
[02:45] <wnight> How can I delete a file or directory when gam_server is holding it open? The file manager I viewed the directory with is closed.
[02:45] <Xgates> damm in Slack when I use to use Xine for a DVD I'd open the control pop in a DVD and click the dvd button to start playing
[02:45] <Xgates> now it starts the DVD just for a beginning intro then stops
[02:45] <Xgates> hmm
[02:46] <Xgates> I thought libdvdcss was the issue
[02:46] <makkia> come si pronuncia jigit ?
[02:46] <makkia> ops
[02:46] <makkia> sorry
[02:47] <klaas> Xgates: do you have these packages: libdvdcss2, libdvdnav4, libdvdread3?
[02:49] <Xgates> ok I dont think I have those all installed let me check
[02:50] <joe|code> Galeon runs so much faster than Firefox on my pc. Is that common?
[02:50] <Determinist> ya know , i feel like really thanking the guys who wrote this system sometimes , it's just so great *sniff*
[02:50] <Xgates> klaas, yes all installed
[02:51] <klaas> Xgates: Do you have dma enabled on your dvd-drive?
[02:51] <Tallia1> hi guys..........:!
[02:51] <klaas> Hi
[02:51] <linux_galore> joe|code: depends on the version of Firefox.........also firefox runs this nasty startup script that slow its down because it has to define the system resources before it runs the binary
[02:51] <Xgates> klaas, ahh maybe not
[02:52] <Xgates> klaas, darn I dont remember the DMa commands
[02:52] <linux_galore> I found the older version of firefox a bit slower the enw stuff is very fast
[02:52] <klaas> Xgates: hdparm -d1 /dev/{yourdrive}
[02:52] <linux_galore> new*
[02:52] <Xgates> k
[02:52] <klaas> Xgates: hdparm -i /dev/{yourdrive} for info.
[02:52] <joe|code> linux_galore, I am going to try out Galeon as my main browser for a while. It is speeding right along. = )
[02:52] <Benjamin_L> is there anything to avoid the following errors using firefox 1.0+ nightlies: http://vorbis.audiohq.de/error.txt
[02:53] <linux_galore> joe|code: yeah only hassle with galeon is its tied to mozilla.....so if you update mozilla you have to update galeon so your stuck on an old version of mozilla until the galeon folks update too
[02:54] <klaas> Does anybody know when firefox 1.0.4 will be released on hoary? I can't install extentions anymore gr....
[02:54] <jacquesmerde> how does one change the default screen resolution for gnome manually? using the preferences gui doesnt seem to work for me (changes only for the current session, even if i save said session)
[02:54] <linux_galore> klaas: just download firefox and install it......only takes like 10 seconds on any Linux machine
[02:54] <Xgates> klaas, ---> http://pastebin.com/285099
[02:55] <crofty> i am having problems with a netgear FA311 pci network card on ubuntu
[02:55] <klaas> linux_galore: I'd rather do so through apt, keeps things central.
[02:55] <jeroen_> klaas, no fx 1.0.4 for hoary
[02:55] <linux_galore> klaas: just install it in /home  doesnt effect apt   that way
[02:55] <klaas> Xgates: run as root.
[02:56] <crofty> my unbuntu installation is seeing the FA311 network card when i do lspci
[02:56] <klaas> linux_galore: /usr/local then..
[02:56] <crofty> but will not activate in the GUI network tool thingy
[02:56] <linux_galore> klaas: when you finally update firefox with apt just delete the /home/user_name/Documants/firefox-install/  directory  no big deal
[02:58] <joe|code> Openoffice or Gnome Office. which is better?
[02:58] <klaas> linux_galore: I know howto, but it's not my primary choice to bypass the package-management system.
[02:58] <jeroen_> joe|code, OOo has better support for .doc
[02:58] <klaas> loe|code: You'll have to find out what _YOU_ like better.
[02:58] <linux_galore> klaas: what I do is download the tarbball  save it to /home/user_name/Documents  then unpack it with  tar zxvf firefox*gz  then run the  firefox-install  script  then create a ling on the gnome task bar to  /home/user_name/Documents/firefox-install/firefox   works a treat
[02:59] <linux_galore> klaas: doesnt bypass anything
[02:59] <linux_galore> klaas: there is no package installed so nothing is bypassed
[03:00] <jeffco> hi everyone. which program in ubuntu should i open in order to play Windows Media Audio?
[03:00] <IIIEars> ation wants to install and run as root. - VERY BAD! - can you point me to the right wiki?
[03:00] <klaas> linux_galore: Not really a bypass, but you're installing software without apt. I like to keep things centralized. I will install the tarball, but I'd rather install a .deb.
[03:00] <merriam> linux_galore: no proper package is installed, so package management is bypassed.
[03:00] <jeffco> By the way, i have XINE.
[03:00] <Xgates> klaas, I did run those as root
[03:00] <merriam> linux_galore: but I agree it's not a big deal in the case of firefox.
[03:00] <IIIEars> an application wants to install and run as root. - VERY BAD! - can you point me to the right wiki?
[03:00] <klaas> Xgates: sorry, I saw a $ at the prompt.
[03:01] <klaas> Xgates: Instead of #.
[03:01] <Xgates> ;p
[03:01] <linux_galore> merriam: no wrong........all Ive done is created a ling to a temporary user space app.....if I type firefox at the command line I still get the default version of firefox not the temporary version
[03:01] <Xgates> klaas, I know one of the guys before ran this on his cdrom --> sudo hdparm -d1 -X34 /dev/cdrom
[03:01] <linux_galore> link*
[03:01] <DunkMaster> hallo
[03:01] <Mirv> jeffco: WMA is proprietary audio format, usage of Ogg Vorbis or other open, free audio format is encouraged. you may see if http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats can help you to hack your computer to play WMAs
[03:02] <jeroen_> hallo, DunkMaster
[03:02] <DunkMaster> where can i find my fat32 partitioned HDD? hdb
[03:02] <merriam> linux_galore: I know.  I do that too.  But I'd rather do it right, using apt.
[03:02] <jeroen_> you want to read/write it?
[03:02] <DunkMaster> both
[03:02] <klaas> Xgates: that's enableinng dma, and setting the mode to udma2.
[03:02] <jeffco> mirv, i read the page, and it has a heading called Windows media audio, but no instructionns.
[03:02] <linux_galore> merriam: if i update firefox with apt it still updates....zero conflicts because its not installed on the system nor is the new version in my path
[03:03] <linux_galore> merriam: i rather have a secure system
[03:03] <klaas> Xgates: I think it's enabled.
[03:03] <Mirv> jeffco: I think following the MPlayer installation instructions will give you WMA playback (even though MPlayer is primarily a video player, it is able to play audio only files too)
[03:04] <merriam> linux_galore: the non-apt method is more secure?
[03:04] <jeroen_> DunkMaster, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions/
[03:04] <DunkMaster> ty Jeroen_
[03:04] <klaas> linux_galore: I't no problem having it in your ${PATH} the order of precedence works on the ${PATH} variable.
[03:04] <linux_galore> actually there is a mozilla-mplayer  plugin that allows wma stuff to stream in the browser
[03:04] <jeffco> mirv, how do i load up rhythmbox?
[03:04] <jeffco> Mirv, i can't find it in "Sound and Video".
[03:05] <IIIEars> .
[03:05] <linux_galore> mplayerplugin-1.0-0.pre2.1
[03:05] <Xgates> klaas, hmm I got this from a term --> libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:669
[03:06] <Xgates> let me try another dvd
[03:06] <Mirv> jeffco: hmm, rhythmbox should be installed by default. do you use some other language besides english? it might be just "music player" or something
[03:06] <IIIEars> how do i modify a program to run as any user other than root?
[03:06] <Mirv> jeffco: anyway, I don't know how to make rhythmbox play WMAs
[03:06] <jeffco> Mirv,  you're right: it's called "music player".
[03:06] <stuNNed> jeffco: you need the gstreamer mad plugin right?
[03:06] <jeffco> stuNNed, do i ?
[03:07] <stuNNed> jeffco: yes, think so
[03:07] <linux_galore> need win32-codecs-1.6-3
[03:07] <linux_galore> for wma
[03:07] <jeroen_> IIIEars, gksudo programname
[03:08] <jeroen_> IIIEars, sorry
[03:08] <jeroen_> IIIEars, I am wrong
[03:08] <jeroen_> IIIEars, wasn't paying attention
[03:08] <IIIEars> Whew! - Thank You - i was about to chmod it everything from 1 to 777 (that woulda' taken some time - grin)
[03:09] <joe|code> Is there an alternative to have video support in your browser without installing Mplayer and its plugins?
[03:09] <Xgates> klaas, hmm odd libdvdread didnt like that DVD was all
[03:09] <Xgates> klaas, thanks
[03:09] <Xgates> brb
[03:10] <IIIEars> The program wants to save it's config in the root folder - i don't think Ubuntu allows that.
[03:10] <jeffco> linux_galore,  do i just get mozilla-mplayer? or do i also need win32-codecs-1.6-3? what do you make of stuNNed 's advice to get gstreamer?
[03:10] <jeffco> linux_galore, mozilla equals firefox?
[03:11] <jeroen_> IIIEars, why not?
[03:11] <jeroen_> IIIEars, I have written in the root dir
[03:11] <IIIEars> Ah - well this is linux - i can find a dozen other apps to do the same thing
[03:11] <klaas> Xgates: OK, that's bad... but the rest works I hope..
[03:12] <jeffco> IIIEars, you talking to me?
[03:12] <IIIEars> jeroen - Thanks
[03:13] <jeffco> stuNNed, accdng to synaptic, i've already downloaded gstreamer0.8-mad.
[03:14] <jeffco> does that mean i can play windows media audio now?
[03:14] <jeffco> if so, how+
[03:14] <stuNNed> jeffco: did you commit your download in synaptic?
[03:14] <jeffco> ?
[03:14] <stuNNed> jeffco: that will be only for mp3 afaik
[03:14] <jeffco> stunned, i don't remember.
[03:14] <jeffco> maybe i did it in terminal.
[03:14] <stuNNed> jeffco: you want to play .wma's in rb?
[03:14] <jacquesmerde> how does one change the default screen resolution for gnome manually? using the preferences gui doesnt seem to work for me (changes only for the current session, even if i save said session)
[03:15] <jeffco> sure, or just in firefox. doesn't matter. Is one better than another? is one less complicated than the other? what do you recommend, stuNNed ?
[03:15] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: tried unchecking 'make this default on this comptuer only' ?
[03:16] <stuNNed> jeffco: you will need nonfree proprietary codecs to play DRM'd .wma's
[03:16] <stuNNed> jeffco: win32codecs and mplayerplug-in should do it for firefox
[03:16] <stuNNed> or w32codecs, rather
[03:16] <stuNNed> jeffco: did you see the restricted formats page on the wiki?
[03:16] <jacquesmerde> stuNNed, it says "make this default setting for [user] ". (no "only") i've tried checking and unchecking. why would unchecking help?
[03:16] <jacquesmerde> i only run it with one user
[03:17] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: afaik if checked it only saves for that session
[03:17] <jeffco> stuNNed, yes. and then i came here to get additional assistance. that page wasn't clear for me.
[03:17] <jeffco> stuNNed, i can't find "win32codecs" in synaptic.
[03:17] <stuNNed> jeffco: you need to add the repositories that will give you access to the codecs
[03:17] <jacquesmerde> stuNNed, is that  a bug?
[03:18] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: don't think so
[03:18] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: you can try and run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' if you want to do it manually
[03:18] <jacquesmerde> stuNNed, i cant just edit a .conf?
[03:18] <jeffco> stuNNed, i have all multi and universe added already. could it be that it has a different name?
[03:18] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: sure, xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[03:18] <klaas> jeffco: scroll up, I've just covered the repository for w32codecs with Xgates.
[03:19] <jacquesmerde> stuNNed, what that check-box says is the exact opposite of this-sesion-only...and its NOT a bug?
[03:19] <DunkMaster> Jeroen_
[03:19] <stuNNed> jeffco: w32codecs aren't in multi and universe
[03:19] <DunkMaster> are you still here?
[03:19] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: i don't think it's a bug, i know i was confused about it too :)
[03:19] <jeroen_> DunkMaster, yes
[03:19] <DunkMaster> ty very much it worked
[03:19] <jacquesmerde> stuNNed, you mean comment out all but one resolution in xorg.conf? or is there some way to set a default, one that gnome will use?
[03:19] <DunkMaster> ok, but will i be able to boot that partition from GRUB?
[03:19] <klaas> jeffco: add "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main" to your /etc/apt/sources
[03:20] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: really, the gui resolution changer should do it for you
[03:20] <jacquesmerde> stuNNed, but i have to UNcheck the box?
[03:20] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: yes
[03:20] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: then apply
[03:20] <jeffco> klaas, how do i, a 3 day old Ubuntu baby, do that?
[03:20] <stuNNed> klaas: those repo's are for hoary?
[03:20] <jacquesmerde> then make sure when i exit that session, i for once "save current session"?
[03:21] <jeroen_> DunkMaster, that's something different
[03:21] <stuNNed> jacquesmerde: that shouldn't matter
[03:21] <klaas> stuNNed: Not using hoary? sorry.
[03:21] <jeffco> klaas, according to synaptic, i already have w32codecs.
[03:21] <jeroen_> DunkMaster, do you know it's name (hda1 for example)?
[03:21] <stuNNed> klaas: yes i am, can i use those repo's with hoary?
[03:21] <klaas> stuNNed: Yes.
[03:21] <stuNNed> klaas: ok thanks
[03:22] <jeffco> so i guess i now just need to get mozilla-mplayer, right, stuNNed, klaas? Will mozilla-mplayer work withFirefox?
[03:22] <klaas> stuNNed:  Check out: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:22] <klaas> jeffco: yes.
[03:22] <klaas> jeffco: That URL can help you to adding the sources list.
[03:23] <jeffco> klaas, i remember seeing marillat in my list yesterday. but i deleted it (after getting Xine) coz i was scared.
[03:24] <Xgates> well Totem has always seemed like crap for a FE to Xine, but anyhow thought I might play with it, but when I stick in a dvd it pops up then says "Totem could not play 'dvd://' there is no plugin to handle this movie/
[03:24] <klaas> jeffco: marrilat is OK.
[03:24] <Xgates> hmm
[03:24] <klaas> Xgates: dit you install totem-xine?
[03:24] <Xgates> klaas, yeah
[03:24] <klaas> Xgates: That's good, gstreamer's not quite usable.
[03:25] <Xgates> it was gstreamer by default but YEAH Gs no good at all
[03:25] <Xgates> :-)
[03:25] <DunkMaster> Jeroen_ its hdb1
[03:25] <sean13> Hey
[03:25] <jeffco> i have a Question for all. Ive been getting stuff (via Synaptic, via terminal sudo get). I can remember some stuff, but not all the stuff I've gotten. Is there a way to pull up a list of all the changes I've made? I think knowing this is handy, do delete stuff that may not be necessary or wanted anymore.
[03:26] <sean13> I'm following the Ubuntu guide to try and get mp3 playback to work but w32codecs isn't in the repositories anymore
[03:27] <klaas> jeffco: There's no changelog as far as I know, but you cat get the total of installed/removed packages with: #dpkg --get-selections
[03:27] <karljp> What sort of processor speeds should you need for dvd playing?  I've got a 1.5gig pentium-M, and I need to close just about everything down to watch dvds in xine
[03:27] <klaas> jeffco: # = root prompt.
[03:27] <karljp> the load average is up around 1, and after about an hour, the audio sync goes off.
[03:28] <karljp> I can pause, let it sit for a minute, and then unpause and it will be ok again.
[03:28] <Xgates> klaas, I can get Xine to play but not totem
[03:28] <sean13> anyone know where I can get w32codecs?
[03:28] <karljp> dma is turned on for the drive.
[03:28] <HiddenWolf> karljp, pentium m is a severely handicapped processor under OSS software
[03:28] <Xgates> hmm might just RIP out STOMP on and hack the TOTEM website
[03:28] <karljp> :(  It's a lovely one in windows
[03:28] <Xgates> LMAO
[03:28] <karljp> you got a link with any further info hidden?
[03:28] <klaas> Xgates: That's wierd, did you run totem from within a terminal?
[03:28] <Xgates> klaas, ahh let me try that
[03:28] <jacquesmerde> another question: when i start a new app it seems to take a long time to load. (everything else seems perfectly speedy though). when i open a new app while keeping an eye on system resources, ram swap memory barely budge, CPU usage oscillates, but never hits 100%, whats my bottleneck here?
[03:29] <HiddenWolf> karljp, pentium m didn't get nearly enough love in gcc, so it performs under par
[03:29] <karljp> do you know if this is something that's expected to change in the future?
[03:29] <Xgates> sean13, add this to your source.list --> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
[03:29] <HiddenWolf> karljp, might be better in gcc4 => breezy => october, but no promises
[03:29] <karljp> also, shouldn't that only affect my compiles?  not someone elses?
[03:29] <sean13> Xgates: ok thanks
[03:30] <karljp> or does all x86 gcc output do bad tings for pentium-m?
[03:30] <Xgates> sean13, then RUN these
[03:30] <Xgates> gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
[03:30] <klaas> Xgates: Time to write a wiki???
[03:30] <Xgates> gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:30] <Xgates> sudo apt-get update
[03:30] <Xgates> hehe
[03:30] <HiddenWolf> karljp, I'm just qouting anandtech, they did some research
[03:30] <jeffco> linux_galore, klaas,  WMAis  not working. Firefox asked me if I want to open the .Wax file. I choose "open with /usr/bin/gmplayer (default). Then Gmplayer program opens. Then an error window: "New_face failed. maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[03:30] <karljp> thanks, just found that link and am going to have a read
[03:31] <klaas> jeffco: Sorry, now idea by the way what's a wax file???
[03:31] <klaas> jeffco: Is it a stream of something?
[03:31] <jeffco> correction: Not gmplayer, but mplayer. linux_galore, klaas. Yes, it's a Windows Media Audio Stream, I believe.
[03:32] <klaas> jeffco: Too bad people use such crap..
[03:32] <cam__> whats the php module named?
[03:32] <cam__> apache2-php ?
[03:32] <cam__> like for apt-get
[03:33] <DunkMaster> erm
[03:33] <klaas> cam__: apt-get show apache2-php
[03:33] <Xgates> klaas, --> http://pastebin.com/285110
[03:33] <Xgates> klaas, perms maybe
[03:33] <Xgates> BUT thats odd
[03:33] <DunkMaster> it wont open MP3 files from the windows partition
[03:33] <klaas> cam__: probably mod-php for apach2
[03:33] <Xgates> then that Xine runs
[03:33] <Xgates> hmm
[03:33] <klaas> haha
[03:33] <DunkMaster> whats the problem?
[03:34] <cam__> klaas: show isnt valid
[03:34] <klaas> cam__: sorry apt-cache show apache2-php
[03:34] <Kimppa> Hello. Is here anyone who knows how to get rid of EVERYTHING related with X?
[03:34] <Xgates> sure you got the right settings in fstab
[03:34] <Kimppa> long story, so just tell me if there anyone willing to help
[03:34] <cam__> cant locate it
[03:34] <DunkMaster> i think so
[03:34] <jeffco> anybody, help with getting mplayer to play Windows Media Audio (streaming). I have the codecs already.
[03:35] <Kimppa> I've already had 3 people on this and we're all out of ideas
[03:35] <Xgates> klaas, what ya think of that pastebin?
[03:35] <klaas> Xgates: are you in the cdrom group?
[03:35] <Xgates> hmm
[03:35] <klaas> Xgates: $id
[03:35] <Xgates> let me look
[03:35] <DunkMaster> There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///mnt/win98/music/rap/other%20rap/Xzibit%20-%20Alkaholik.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[03:35] <Amaranth> morning
[03:35] <DunkMaster> that what it gives me on all MP3s
[03:35] <Xgates> klaas, cdrom:x:24:xgates,hal
[03:36] <cam__> lib-apache2-mod-php4
[03:36] <Amaranth> DunkMaster: You need the gstreamer-faad package
[03:36] <klaas> Xgates: did you select the correct drive in totem's preferences?
[03:36] <DunkMaster> apt-get?
[03:36] <Kimppa> anyone?
[03:36] <Xgates> klaas, let me check it again
[03:37] <Amaranth> DunkMaster: Yeah, if you have universe enabled.
[03:37] <klaas> Kimmpa: What do you want?
[03:37] <klaas> Kimmpa: A clean install without X?
[03:37] <Kimppa> long story, but the short version is that non of the desktops I have installed will work
[03:37] <Kimppa> I can get to the login screen, but no further than that
[03:38] <klaas> Kimmpa: X won't start?
[03:38] <DunkMaster> wtf, i cant set 1024*768 resolution
[03:38] <Thazza> Is there a way to make XMMS connect to a smb:// share?
[03:38] <DunkMaster> it does not have that option
[03:38] <Kimppa> klaas: long story... but it's all messed up
[03:38] <klaas> Thazza: mount it...
[03:38] <Xgates> klaas, RoFL you want me to BEND over so you can give me DA BOOT
[03:38] <Xgates> LOL
[03:38] <Kimppa> if I try to login, x will just reboot
[03:38] <Thazza> Or in turn, a way to make a mount to a dir.
[03:38] <Xgates> klaas, sheesh
[03:38] <Kimppa> and return to the login screen
[03:38] <Xgates> klaas, had it on the cdrom not the dvdrom
[03:39] <Kimppa> so if someone can help me to get a clean install without x, and then help reinstalling x, I would REALLY appreciate it
[03:39] <klaas> Kimmpa: What's in /var/log/xorg.log?
[03:39] <DunkMaster> where can i enable universe?
[03:39] <klaas> Xgates: annoying.. ;-)
[03:39] <Amaranth> Kimppa: To get a clean install (without much of anything) boot the install CD with the 'server' option.
[03:39] <Xgates> well HELL I sat here almost 8 hrs straight got this thing custom compiled, kernel, Alsa-drivers, and nvidia-kernel, and then kill most services and got it all crusing now
[03:39] <Xgates> WoOT
[03:39] <Thazza> easist way to mount a smb part? or do i have to open a term window
[03:40] <Xgates> time for DVD BREAK
[03:40] <Amaranth> Kimppa: You type it in at the boot prompt.
[03:40] <Amaranth> DunkMaster: Edit your sources.list
[03:40] <Xgates> klaas, THANKS man
[03:40] <Xgates> movie time
[03:40] <DunkMaster> okay, whay do i edit there?
[03:40] <Kimppa> Amaranth: ok.. the point is to get a clean install without having to reinstall
[03:40] <Xgates> damm 3:40 am
[03:40] <Amaranth> DunkMaster: There are instructions in that file on what to uncomment to get universe.
[03:40] <Xgates> so much for sleep
[03:40] <klaas> Xgates: Enjoy your movie ;-)
[03:40] <Amaranth> Kimppa: Good luck. :)
[03:40] <Xgates> THANKS
[03:41] <Xgates> later kiddies
[03:41] <klaas> Xgates: bye
[03:41] <Thazza> easist way to mount a smb part? or do i have to open a term window
[03:41] <clarki> Hello. can someone please recommend a channel for an ubuntu samba newbie set-up question? Thanks.
[03:41] <klaas> Clarki: #ubuntu??
[03:41] <klaas> Clarki: What's the problem.
[03:42] <Amaranth> Kimppa: You can start with sudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk2.0-0 xserver-xorg
[03:43] <clarki> OK. Did the ubuntu (Hoary?) install on my desktop PC and all went well. Local printing to my HP 932 worked perfectly. However getting sharring via XP powered laptops is a problem.....
[03:44] <Amaranth> clarki: iirc you put in http://<linux machine ip>/printers/printername for the location of the printer
[03:44] <Helmutt> Hello everybody!!!
[03:44] <Helmutt> Got a problem again :)
[03:44] <Helmutt> I've installed thunderbird, but there is two menuentries for it! one to start the mail client and one to start the profileselector... I want to get rid of that f*cking profileselector!!! :@ but when I click on it ther is no such alternative! and there is no menu editor. I installed smeg and it couldent delete an entry! What to do?
[03:45] <clarki> I have samba set-up to some degree and I can see the shared printers from the XP machines. However when I print from XP, the print completes without error but the physical print is never triggered on the desktop (samba print server machine)
[03:45] <Amaranth> smeg couldn't delete the entry?
[03:45] <Kimppa> Amaranth: do you mind if I pm you with my problem... just to see if you have any ideas I already haven't tried?
[03:45] <Amaranth> Kimppa: I have no more ideas.
[03:45] <Kimppa> ok.. so remove those and then reinstall?
[03:46] <Amaranth> Sure.
[03:46] <Kimppa> k
[03:46] <klaas> Clarki: Is it in the spool/queue? printer icon in the notification bar?
[03:46] <Amaranth> Actually, you'll probably want to purge qt too
[03:46] <Helmutt> Amaranth: no there was no such alternative...
[03:46] <Kimppa> I'll give it one more shot.. libgtk is one I haven't yet uninstalled
[03:46] <Amaranth> Helmutt: What do you mean?
[03:46] <clarki> klass: That's the screen top right?
[03:46] <Seveas> Kimppa, I missed your problem, can you please repeat it
[03:46] <klaas> Clarki: Depends on your panel-setup. I think it is by default.
[03:46] <Helmutt> Amaranth: there was no deletebutton :D
[03:47] <Amaranth> Helmutt: Double-click on the entry...
[03:47] <clarki> I don't think it is. I just see the update and volume icons.
[03:47] <jeffco> linux_galore, could you help me set up WMA for my 3 day old ubuntu?
[03:47] <klaas> Clarki: Then it's not.
[03:47] <klaas> Clarki: Can you go to http://localhost:631
[03:48] <klaas> Clarki: in a browser ofcourse.
[03:48] <Amaranth> jeffco: Enable universe and install gstreamer-plugins
[03:48] <clarki> klass: Yes. Actually never seen this screen before.
[03:48] <Amaranth> hmm, we have an mIRC user :)
[03:48] <Helmutt> Amaranth: Hehe LOL :D Why must I be so stupid... :D
[03:49] <Amaranth> Helmutt: My fault, I'll have to make it more obvious in the next version.
[03:49] <jeffco> Amaranth, i installed libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0. Is that what you were thinking of?
[03:49] <klaas> Clarki: Check out the jobs tab.
[03:49] <Helmutt> Amaranth: So your the creator of smeg? What programming language?
[03:49] <clarki> klass: Needs username/password. Should that be 'root' ?
[03:49] <klaas> Clarki: Yes
[03:50] <klaas> Clarki: Have you enabled the root account yet?
[03:50] <Amaranth> jeffco: No, the package I was thinking of doesn't seem to exist anymore...
[03:50] <Amaranth> Helmutt: Python/PyGTK
[03:50] <clarki> klass: root user/password is not accepted.
[03:51] <klaas> Clarki: If i understand correctly the printer is connected to the ubuntu machine, and you want to connect wit xp.. right?
[03:51] <clarki> klass: Correct
[03:51] <Kimppa> Seveas: basically, x is all messed up so that I can't even access it. I've tried on bunch of things but nothing seems to work. Now the last option before reinstall is to somehow get X 100% uninstalled and then reinstall it
[03:51] <jeffco> Amaranth, oh, what do i do now? are you able to play WMA on your ubuntu?
[03:51] <klaas> Clarki: Open a terminal and run: $sudo passwd root
[03:51] <clarki> Aplogies. I mean klaas.
[03:51] <Amaranth> clarki: sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[03:51] <Helmutt> Amaranth: OK, I'm sitting here reading a pythonbook right now :P Interesting language, easy syntax to learn but powerfull functions...
[03:51] <klaas> Clarki: np
[03:52] <Seveas> Kimppa, try removing the core X libraries, the rest will get dragged down as dependencies
[03:52] <Amaranth> clarki: don't enable the root account
[03:52] <Seveas> but that will remove a *lot*
[03:52] <klaas> Amaranth: Why not...
[03:52] <Kimppa> Seveas: do you mind if I pm you.. this might take a while?
[03:52] <Amaranth> klaas: Not needed.
[03:52] <Seveas> Kimppa, sure, be my guest
[03:52] <clarki> klass I know the root password is correct. Getting mixed instructions here from Amarath.
[03:52] <Amaranth> clarki: My way works. :)
[03:52] <Seveas> klaas, because it is better to avoid having a root password
[03:53] <klaas> Clarki: Amaranth appears to know best.. i quess.
[03:53] <klaas> Amaranth: No offense.
[03:53] <DunkMaster> erm
[03:53] <DunkMaster> it wont find gstreamer-faad
[03:53] <jeffco> Amaranth, you there?
[03:53] <clarki> OK. Thanks fhe 'teamwork'. So Amaranth. I need execute the 'CUPS' command you posted above?
[03:54] <klaas> seveas: Why is it better to avoid a root password, not security I hope? sudo's not quite secure either.
[03:54] <Lafitte-> anyone know where iptables is in ubuntu
[03:54] <joe|code> I wish I had a Death Star = (
[03:54] <Amaranth> DunkMaster: After you enabled universe did you run apt-get update?
[03:54] <DunkMaster> yes
[03:54] <Amaranth> jeffco: No, that's not it. The package I'm thinking of isn't there anymore.
[03:54] <Seveas> klaas, read RootSudo on the wiki
[03:54] <Amaranth> clarki: That command makes http://localhost:631 work.
[03:55] <Fackamato> yeah
[03:55] <Fackamato> really unexpected
[03:55] <Fackamato> doesn't boot my custom kernel
[03:55] <clarki> Araranth: OK give me a moment
[03:55] <Fackamato> says "invalid executable format" or something right after grub
[03:55] <Amaranth> Fackamato: Why do you need a custom kernel?
[03:55] <frogger^> hi. does anybody know a tree pad program for linux? i know, treepad is available for linux too, but im looking for a something better. any idea?
[03:56] <karljp> anyone know how to get powernowd to be more intelligent?
[03:56] <cam__> is lm_sensors part of ubuntu?
[03:56] <Fackamato> Amaranth: No special need, I just want it.
[03:56] <karljp> I'm trying to play dvds and it's only using 1.2gig, not 1.4gig.
[03:56] <Fackamato> It sounds like you're telling me that ubuntu doesn't support custom kernelss
[03:56] <karljp> and my load average is over 2, so it should really be trying to run as fast as it could
[03:56] <Seveas> Fackamato, did you build it from scratch or did you take the ubuntu source and altered the .config?
[03:57] <Fackamato> build it from scratch with the 2.6.10-5-686-smp config from /boot .
[03:57] <Amaranth> Fackamato: Well, it's better to stick with the kernel Ubuntu provides.
[03:57] <clarki> Amaranth: I executed that command with sucess, but I still cannot get access to the 'Jobs' tab in browser. Still wants a user/password, but root not accepted.
[03:57] <DunkMaster> i want to change the screen resolution
[03:58] <Fackamato> Amaranth: why would it be better?
[03:58] <Amaranth> clarki: Use your username and password.
[03:58] <Amaranth> Fackamato: Well, because it works, for one. :)
[03:58] <Fackamato> the kernel ubuntu provides isn't compiled for pentium four
[03:58] <Fackamato> it's compiled for pentium pro
[03:58] <DunkMaster> 832*624 is maxi  can set
[03:58] <Fackamato> (ridicilous)
[03:59] <Amaranth> Fackamato: You will get _no_ noticable speed increase from recompiling it.
[03:59] <Amaranth> Fackamato: And iirc they use -march pentium4 anyway
[03:59] <Seveas> indeed
[03:59] <clarki> Amaranth: OK Jobs is showing nothing active.
[03:59] <Determinist> anyone here ever tried installing i8kutils for dell laptops?
[04:00] <ogi_> Why does xmms hang when I try to play mp3's on it?
[04:00] <klaas> Seveas: There's a couple of really good points, however I prefer to enable the root account anyway (partly because I use kerberos authentication with an ldap backend for normal users).  I definitely agree that users should _NEVER_ login with X as root.
[04:00] <DunkMaster> you need gstreamer
[04:00] <Seveas> ogi_, because you need to change the output plugin to esd
[04:00] <Determinist> ogi_, misconfigured codec?
[04:00] <DunkMaster> just like me
[04:01] <DunkMaster> Seveas, where?
[04:01] <ogi_> hmm let's see
[04:01] <DunkMaster> i want to change also
[04:01] <Seveas> klaas, ok, but the ubuntu way is sudo, so please try to avoid using a root account when explaining things to newbies if it can be done otherwise.
[04:01] <Seveas> DunkMaster, ~/.xmms/config
[04:02] <DunkMaster> ty
[04:02] <klaas> Seveas: Allright, I will ;-)
[04:02] <Seveas> output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libesdout.so
[04:02] <ogi_> yep
[04:02] <ogi_> it works now thanks
[04:02] <Seveas> same goes for beep-media-player
[04:02] <dos000> anyone can help with tftp and xinetd ?
[04:02] <Seveas> beep-media-player beets xmms anyway :)
[04:03] <Determinist> nonsense
[04:03] <dos000> anyone can tell what is going on here. I created a chroot eenv via deboostrap install xinetd and tftpd however i am not able to get anything back. i tried to run netcat and i see the request coming on the server machine. so it is xinet related.
[04:03] <sapo> hi all, anyone could help with my gnome? it give an error: Failed to initialize HAL! and crashes :(
[04:04] <klaas> ogi_: There's a great skin for xmms/beep-media-player on gnome-look: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=23274
[04:04] <sapo> it was working since today i had to reboot and now it doesnt work anymore :(
[04:05] <Seveas> klaas, thnx!
[04:06] <Determinist> ed2k sucks ass :/
[04:06] <Determinist> one file with 800 matching sources available , taking 8 days to download @ 70% , wtf?
[04:06] <sapo> bittorrent rlz :)
[04:07] <Amaranth> Determinist: I hope you're trying to download a linux distro...
[04:07] <Amaranth> Determinist: Otherwise please don't talk about it here.
[04:07] <Determinist> Amaranth, of course , what else? :)
[04:07] <Seveas> klaas, the thing won't download do you still have the file?
[04:07] <Determinist> and yes , you're right.
[04:07] <Get> do the user need too be in a special group for use of mic?
[04:07] <klaas> Seveas: I do, holdon.
[04:07] <Seveas> Get, audio possibly
[04:07] <DunkMaster> wheres .xmmx situated?
[04:07] <DunkMaster> .xmms
[04:08] <Seveas> DunkMaster, /home/YOUR_NAME/.xmms/
[04:08] <DunkMaster> okay
[04:09] <ogi_> Is it possible to make all the buttons in logitech mx310 work
[04:09] <_blue> does ubuntu come with a special partition tool?
[04:09] <yahalom> is there a project like kubuntu but with xfce4?
[04:09] <_blue> specifically in the live cd, the equivalent to diskdrake in mandrake move
[04:09] <Amaranth> yahalom: nope
[04:09] <yahalom> Amaranth: :(
[04:10] <Amaranth> _blue: ubuntu just has parted and it's frontends gparted and qparted
[04:10] <Amaranth> is gnome-look.org dead for anyone else here?
[04:10] <ogi_> yep
[04:10] <Seveas> Amaranth, for me too
[04:10] <Seveas> wanted to download the xmms ubuntu skin :)
[04:11] <_blue> Amaranth: how good are those tools?
[04:11] <Amaranth> _blue: never used them
[04:11] <HiddenWolf> yahalom, there isn't, but probably will be
[04:11] <Amaranth> Seveas: Have you seen the clearlooks skin?
[04:12] <Seveas> no
[04:12] <yahalom> HiddenWolf: it would  be cool, especially for old systems
[04:12] <Amaranth> Doesn't ubuntu use clearlooks by default now?
[04:12] <Seveas> yes it does, but not for xmms :)
[04:12] <Seveas> yahalom, you can install xfce
[04:12] <klaas> Seveas: You can get it on: http://www.klaroon.nl
[04:12] <boddy> hiii can I install ubuntu on sata dirive ?
[04:12] <Seveas> I use it sometimes :)
[04:13] <Seveas> thnx klaas
[04:13] <yahalom> Seveas: what bothers me is taht i want an ubuntu with xfce as default or at least with no gnome or kde for older systems
[04:13] <boddy> ??
[04:14] <Seveas> boddy, yes you can
[04:14] <DunkMaster> i run ubuntu with gnome on 200MMX machine and it works good
[04:14] <DunkMaster> :P
[04:16] <ogi_> I've installed rar but the archiever still can't open the .rar-files I compressed in windows..
[04:17] <klaas> brb, out to get me a pack of sigs, and a donner kebab.. ;-)
[04:17] <Amaranth> that skin is still ugly compared to muine
[04:17] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com/compare.png
[04:17] <Seveas> Amaranth, i completely disagree with you :)
[04:18] <Amaranth> one is clean, simple, and easy to read and the other isn't
[04:19] <klaas> Amaranth: I like beep-media-player better, I don't like to import files into the media system, somehow sorting never works as it should.
[04:19] <jeffco> hi all: i download tuxracer. when i click the link, it opens in fullscreen mode. The problem is that it runs very slowly on my somewhat speedy computer. what's wrong?
[04:19] <klaas> Amaranth: Especially when the id3 tags have feat. 's in them.
[04:19] <Amaranth> klaas: heh, i don't sort
[04:19] <klaas> Amaranth: I did..
[04:20] <klaas> ;-)
[04:20] <hondje> Hi guys.  I just did a hardware upgrade, including a new hda.  The old hda was moved to hdb, and the /home partition was left intact by the installer.
[04:20] <Amaranth> klaas: muine is a totally different way of handling music
[04:20] <klaus^^^> heelo
[04:20] <klaus^^^> there si a proogram
[04:20] <klaus^^^> like total comander
[04:20] <klaus^^^> or windowcomander
[04:20] <Seveas> klaus^^^, it's called mc
[04:20] <Seveas> midnight commander
[04:20] <hondje> After installing ubuntu again, I copied all my old /home/hondje files to the new /home/hondje on hda, and that went without a hitch except for evolution...
[04:21] <hondje> I cannot seem to get my calendar working, though I have replaced the .evolution dir a couple times while futzing with it.  All old emails are saved, but contacts and calendars are lost
[04:21] <hondje> Any ideas?
[04:21] <Seveas> hondje, i think that data is stored in .gconf (but not sure)
[04:21] <hondje> only one way to check :)
[04:22] <Funraiser> i have a stupid question: what's the difference between a notebook and a laptop?
[04:22] <hondje> Funraiser: Damn good question
[04:22] <Seveas> FunnyLookinHat_, not too much difference, in earlier times notebooks were the smaller ones and laptops the bigger
[04:22] <Pixel83> Funraiser, in common language: nothing.
[04:22] <Seveas> niw the names are used interchangeably
[04:22] <Seveas> s/niw/now/
[04:23] <Funraiser> k
[04:23] <hondje> ibook vs powerbook
[04:23] <karim> with what can I configure services run at startup ?
[04:23] <Seveas> karim, with files in /etc/init.d/ and in /etc/NAME_OF_SERVICE
[04:24] <Funraiser> thanks
[04:24] <karim> Seveas, it's complicated
[04:24] <Seveas> well, yes, services tend to be complicated
[04:24] <Seveas> so don't mess with them if you don't know what you are doing...
[04:25] <karim> it won't run apache2 by itself
[04:25] <karim> I must do something
[04:25] <karim> or maybe it would
[04:25] <Seveas> when you install apache2 it should start at boot
[04:26] <karim> in fact apache was also started so it probably conflicted
[04:26] <Seveas> ahh
[04:26] <georges> how to burn a dvd?
[04:26] <Seveas> yes indeed, you cannot have both apache and apache2 running without changing the configuration of one of them
[04:26] <georges> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video ./dvd//
[04:26] <georges> :-( unable to open64("/dev/dvd",O_RDONLY): No such file or directory
[04:26] <Kimppa> georges: try k3b
[04:26] <hondje> Seveas: sadly, .gconf and .gconfd did not contain my missing calendars
[04:27] <georges> can k3b burn stuff I created with dvdauthor?
[04:27] <hondje> There's a dir, /home/hondje/.evolution.calendar, and I've swapped the contents
[04:27] <Seveas> hondje, then i'm out of options, i never used the evo calendar
[04:27] <hondje> hrm, I bet there's an evo chan somewhere
[04:27] <hondje> thanks a lot, Seveas
[04:27] <Funraiser> georges, it probably burns everything
[04:27] <kingos> hey everyone, trying ubuntu out. can anyone help me with the following?
[04:28] <kingos> hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[04:28] <kingos> /dev/dvd:
[04:28] <kingos>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[04:28] <kingos>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted using_dma    =  0 (off)
[04:28] <georges> when will it all be integrated... k3b and movie editor and authoring .... dreaming
[04:28] <Seveas> kingos, you need to do that as root
[04:28] <georges> I have now 4 applicaiton open just for one dvd
[04:28] <Seveas> so sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[04:28] <klaas> kingos: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[04:28] <kingos> Seveas: I was root ...
[04:29] <klaus^^^> how to increase the copy rate it copys me realy slow from one hard to anaother
[04:29] <klaus^^^> in linux
[04:29] <klaus^^^> ?
[04:29] <Seveas> kingos, if that does not work: the ide_generic driver cannot set dma, so you need to load the appropriate kernel module
[04:29] <kingos> ah
[04:29] <Funraiser> georges, and there is nerolinux too
[04:29] <kingos> Seveas: know which module it is for a dvd drive?
[04:29] <Kimppa> Ok.. I've removed libglib2.0-0 and libx11-6 and then reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, however when I run gdm and login I will only get a terminal. Apparently I need to install something additional, but what?
[04:29] <klaus^^^> hello
[04:29] <klaas> kingos: Try on the device-node itself, instead of the symlink. not sure if it helps, but you never know.
[04:29] <Seveas> kingos, you need one for the chipset
[04:29] <klaus^^^> how to copy faster it copies me realy slow
[04:30] <georges> Funraiser: nerolinux I have to pay...
[04:30] <Seveas> search the forum/google/mailinglist for your motheboard type and/or dvd player
[04:30] <Funraiser> georges, well hello bittorent
[04:30] <Seveas> Funraiser, please do NOT encourage copyright infringment in here...
[04:30] <kingos> seveas: okay. i think it is a fairly common problem with ubuntu and amd64, but have not found a solution.
[04:30] <Funraiser> Seveas, did i?
[04:31] <Seveas> ah, amd64....
[04:31] <Funraiser> georges, use k3b
[04:31] <Lafitte-> what programs work with palm pilots ?
[04:31] <klaus^^^> hello
[04:31] <klaus^^^> how to increase the copy speed
[04:31] <klaas> Lafitte-: gnome-pilot
[04:31] <Lafitte-> i have mine syncing but no place to view
[04:31] <Seveas> Funraiser, well, advising someone to download a program with a p2p client so they don't have to pay is that....
[04:31] <klaus^^^> it copies me realy slows from one hdd to another
[04:31] <Lafitte-> oh  ok
[04:31] <hondje> Lafitte-: I use evolution, syncs up nicely, gnome-pilot, jpilot
[04:31] <Seveas> klaus^^^, maybe enabling dma can help
[04:31] <klaus^^^> how can i enable that
[04:31] <klaus^^^> ?
[04:32] <Lafitte-> hondje,  how i get evolution to sync ?
[04:32] <Seveas> klaus^^^, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/YOUR_DISK
[04:32] <Seveas> for both disks
[04:32] <oliverp> hi
[04:32] <klaus^^^> how do iu see
[04:32] <klaus^^^> the hd devi es
[04:32] <klaus^^^> to know what to enable
[04:32] <oliverp> I have a .deb package on my desktop. how do I install it?
[04:32] <klaas> klaus^^^: ls /dev/hd*
[04:33] <klaas> oliverp: sudo dpkg -i .debpackages.
[04:33] <Lafitte-> hondje,  all my pilot settings are there    but  my contacts are not in the contacts list
[04:33] <Seveas> oliverp, dpkg -i [the debfile]
[04:33] <kingos> found this link, trying it :
[04:33] <kingos> Solution! My motherboard's NForce2 based, but I *think* this'll work for NForce3/4 as well. In your /etc/modules file, add the line "amd74xx" before everything else. Save, Reboot, and you should be able to set dma via hdparm now. To make it permanent, add the lines I've got in hdparm.conf to yours.
[04:33] <kingos> *reboot*
[04:33] <Funraiser> Seveas, no sudo in front of dpkg?
[04:33] <oliverp> klaas, Seveas: thanks
[04:33] <Seveas> FunnyLookinHat_, yeah, always sudo :)
[04:33] <klaas> oliverp: If it whines about dependencies, run $sudo apt-get -f install
[04:33] <Seveas> Funraiser*
[04:34] <hondje> Lafitte-: no automagic? what kind of palm?
[04:34] <Seveas> damn tab completion...
[04:34] <Funraiser> lol
[04:34] <Funraiser> i got it
[04:34] <Lafitte-> hondje,  zire31    it sync  and shows in evoltuon
[04:34] <Seveas> Funraiser, then what is that on your head :p
[04:34] <hondje> but doesn't transfer the contact info?
[04:34] <Kimppa> Can someone please tell me what additional packages do I need to install to get gnome up and running after installing ubuntu-desktop and gnome?
[04:34] <klaus^^^> Seveas,
[04:35] <klaus^^^> root@clausme:/home/clausme # hdparm -d1 /dev/hda1
[04:35] <klaus^^^> /dev/hda1:
[04:35] <klaus^^^>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[04:35] <klaus^^^>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument
[04:35] <klaus^^^>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[04:35] <klaus^^^> root@clausme:/home/clausme # hdparm -d1 /dev/hda1
[04:35] <klaus^^^> look
[04:35] <Lafitte-> hongje  im sure its me not doing something
[04:35] <klaus^^^> now what
[04:35] <Seveas> klaus^^^, please do NOT paste in here!
[04:35] <Seveas> and it is /dev/hda
[04:35] <Seveas> not hda1
[04:35] <Seveas> hda1 is a partition
[04:35] <hondje> Lafitte-: If I had a zire, I'd test it :(
[04:35] <wnight> What is the /.dev directory? How/why/where is it mounted?
[04:36] <wnight> (As opposed to /dev, this is /.dev)
[04:36] <klaas> Lafitte: /dev/hda is your primary master on ide0, and therefore most likely your harddisk.
[04:36] <Lafitte-> hondje,  i had to add the device to the list for palsm  it wasnt ven there    but i found the info  onloine  now it syncs
[04:36] <Lafitte-> ill try gnome-pilot
[04:36] <Seveas> wnight, /.dev is a backup of your static /dev in case you need it
[04:36] <klaas> Lafitte: Find out where /dev/cdrom is linking to. $ls -l /dev/cdrom
[04:37] <hondje> I've had great luck suggesting jpilot, though it doesn't mesh with other apps well
[04:37] <Seveas>  /dev is managed by udev
[04:37] <klaus^^^> still jnot workling
[04:37] <klaus^^^> Seveas,
[04:38] <klaus^^^> Seveas,
[04:38] <Lafitte-> klaas, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-15 09:28 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[04:39] <klaas> Lafitte: Then run $sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[04:39] <clarki> klaas/amaranth - From the CUPS (Browser) I did a test print and everything was fine. I then stopped the queue and printed from a remote XP machine. The print executed fine it appeared (all though very slow compared to the Windows sharing) but the job neve appeared in the CUPS queue. Any thoughts?
[04:39] <Lafitte-> klaas, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[04:39] <Lafitte-> ok    i did that
[04:40] <wnight> Seveas: So the static dev has everything, whereas the udev managed dir has only those devices that are detected?
[04:40] <Amaranth> clarki: no idea, i've never shared a printer
[04:40] <klaas> Lafitte: Yes, $ is the prompt. sorry should have added that.
[04:40] <Seveas> wnight, iirc yes...
[04:40] <wnight> Seveas: Thanks
[04:41] <klaas> Clarki: neither have I, but i will within a couple of days.
[04:42] <Lafitte-> klaas,  with the $   for first thing you ask   it didnt like the -l switch
[04:42] <clarki> OK: Amaranth / klaas thanks. Would I better trying a samba channel or is the Ubuntu install too specific for 'generic' samba support?
[04:42] <Lafitte-> so i removed the $ and it worked
[04:43] <klaas> Lafitte: I don't understand. Which command didn't like the -l switch? ls?
[04:43] <Lafitte-> $ls -l /dev/cdrom
[04:43] <oliverp> I just downloaded new_movie.img. what is the easyest way to watch it? is there any application simular to daemontools for windows?
[04:43] <klaas> Lafitte: You're right, the $ is already there.. ;-)
[04:44] <oliverp> btw it's a dvd-rimage
[04:44] <klaas> Lafitte: Like the \ in dos.
[04:44] <Lafitte-> klaas,  why are we doing this ?
[04:44] <klaas> Lafitte: I don't know.. ;-) and by the way it's > in dos sorry.