[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #165302 in cvs (main) "cvs date header tag wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165302
[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #165303 in evolution (main) "evolution gets another link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165303
[01:46] <TheMuso> c
[01:46] <TheMuso> arg
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #165316 in ubuntu "finding a lost swap partition?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165316
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #165317 in apport (main) "[feisty] apport sends an improper url to firefox for bug submission" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165317
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #165318 in ubuntu "suspend, hibernate cause dbus crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165318
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #165320 in ubuntu "cannot format ext3 partition on laptop during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165320
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #165322 in ubuntu "Launchpad bug reporting needs a 'me too' button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165322
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #165323 in xeukleides (universe) "xeukleides uses very ugly font" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165323
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #165324 in rhythmbox (main) "Internal data flow error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165324
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #165325 in ia32-libs (universe) "32-bit alsa modules for bluetooth, etc, are not available in 64-bit Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165325
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #165327 in ubuntu "Thunderbird Ignoring Default Browser to Use Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165327
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #165328 in firefox (main) "computer doesn't hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165328
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #165329 in update-manager (main) "E: Type '‘deb' is not known on line 28 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165329
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #165330 in update-manager (main) "Wont upgrade to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165330
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #165331 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 disc will load kernel and go blank after" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165331
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #165335 in ubiquity (main) "Going back in step 4 corrupts partitioning menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165335
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #166461 in totem (main) "all multimedia play crash after enble compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166461
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #168493 in gnash (universe) "[Gutsy] Openstreetmap Potlatch editor is offset into the bottom-right corner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168493
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #172243 in gnome-panel (main) "problem loading the panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172243
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #172244 in libfile-basedir-perl (universe) "New upstream version (0.03)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172244
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #172245 in pidgin (main) "Unable to create socket in gusty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172245
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172247 in totem (main) "fullscreen controls flicker on and off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172247
[06:52] <ubotu> New bug: #172250 in at-spi (main) "Please upload new at-spi merged package 1.20.1-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172250
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172251 in ubuntu "crash when serves" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172251
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #172254 in ubuntu "[Gutsy] When using themes other than Human some controle get ugly." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172254
[08:03] <dholbach> ID
[08:03] <dholbach> good morning
[08:11]  * Admiral_Chicago waves
[08:15] <dholbach> hey Admiral_Chicago
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> its been a long time since I've been in here.  I feel like i've neglected the bug love
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #172255 in openoffice.org (main) "When using Hebrew locale, the non-active tabs are shown as boxes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172255
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #172257 in rhythmbox (main) "When recording audio tracks light on harddrive turns yellow and then the mouse freezes " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172257
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #172259 in firefox (main) "If I put a space or _ in the bottom of this form it will crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172259
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #172258 in gstreamer0.10-pitfdll (universe) "amd64 version of gstreamer0.10-pitfdll?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172258
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #172260 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "[mysql] multiple vulnerabilities" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172260
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #172261 in ubuntu "javascript setInterval causes glitches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172261
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #172262 in openoffice.org (main) "Gutsy - Impress video crappy, possibly antialiasing problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172262
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172263 in ttf-larabie (multiverse) "You're Gone font is buggy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172263
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172264 in ghostscript (main) "Ubuntu 7.10 provides Ghostscript 8.61 pre-release version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172264
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172265 in feynmf (universe) "[feynmf] Insecure temporary file creation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172265
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #172266 in libnss-ldap (main) "[libnss-ldap] possible theft of user credentials or information disclosure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172266
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172268 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "kernel NULL pointer dereference in journal_grab_journal_head+0x2/0x40" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172268
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164501 in wireshark (universe) "more security issues with wireshark from 0.99.6 down to ..." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164501
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #172269 in ubuntu "Copying Open Office chart from Calc to Writer using clipboard changes it. (Curves - Chart got bad meaning !!!, Legend) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172269
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172270 in ubuntu "Include TIresias fonts family in next release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172270
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172272 in update-manager (main) "update-manager doesn't remember package(s) unmarked for upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172272
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #172273 in ubuntu "The power on HD, fan, CP is not off ufter the shutdown screen. Motherboard: Asus p5gd2-x, bios v.0105." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172273
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172276 in ubuntu "Update manager has USBMGR stuck permanently" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172276
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #172277 in htdig (universe) "[CVE-2007-6110] Cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerability in htsearch in htdig 3.2.0b6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172277
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #172278 in openoffice.org2 "Crash on openning spreadsheet with macros" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172278
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172281 in kdebase (main) "kdm: Please add support for ConsoleKit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172281
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172282 in laptop-mode-tools (main) "regarding /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf : LM_AC_HD_POWERMGMT and NOLM_AC_HD_POWERMGMT should default to 254 instead of 255" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172282
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #172283 in wireshark (universe) "[wireshark] multiple vulnerabilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172283
[11:28] <ubotu> New bug: #172284 in php5 (main) "package libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.3-1ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172284
[11:28] <ubotu> New bug: #172287 in hdparm (main) "hdparm's feedback about -B values is misleading" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172287
[11:28] <ubotu> New bug: #172291 in mythtv (multiverse) "[Hardy] mythtv "will be removed" by dist-upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172291
[11:29] <ubotu> New bug: #172288 in firefox (main) "internal rss reader in firefox error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172288
[11:29] <ubotu> New bug: #172290 in yelp (main) "yelp crashes when choosing "Report a Problem"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172290
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172293 in laptop-mode-tools (main) "laptop-mode can't be enabled by default because using laptop-mode causes system hangs for some people" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172293
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172294 in pidgin (main) "bidgin bugs on japanese ubuntu linux" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172294
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172295 in linux-meta (main) "Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE connects to the Internet only at times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172295
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #172296 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice is sometimes extremely slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172296
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #172297 in cupsys (main) "Cups printer sharing needs restart to work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172297
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172301 in laptop-mode-tools (main) "laptop-mode should default to use relatime for ext3 partitions while on battery while keeping the option to use noatime while on battery" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172301
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172302 in ubuntu "sleep sometimes causes log-outs or reboots" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172302
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172303 in update-manager (main) "Trying to upgrade to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172303
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172305 in ubuntu "My ubuntu 6.06 is not upadating to 6.10. I tried both the network upgrade and the alternate install cd. But, a bug is stopping the upgrade process." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172305
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172306 in kde-i18n-cs (main) "wrong czech translation in system settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172306
[12:27] <ubotu> New bug: #172300 in ubuntu "i can`t install ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172300
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172307 in rhythmbox (main) "Last.fm radio stations play one click too late" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172307
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #172309 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] gcutils" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172309
[13:17] <ubotu> New bug: #172312 in ubuntu "pcie mem resource kernel conflict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172312
[13:24] <ubotu> New bug: #172313 in evolution (main) "threaded view - wishlist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172313
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #163593 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in imap_parse_body()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163593
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172311 in gdb (main) "internal-error: unknown ptrace event 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172311
[13:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172310 in brltty (main) "Please upload merged brltty 3.9-4ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172310
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #146493 in gnome-screensaver (main) "gnome-screensaver-gl-helper crashed with SIGSEGV in XF86DrmAdaptor::XF86DrmAdaptor()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146493
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148876 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in memcpy()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148876
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172315 in firefox (main) "location bar not working after update to v<IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172315
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172316 in firebird1.5 (universe) "firebird server can't be started" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172316
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #165017 in alacarte (main) "impossible d'ouvrir le menu "application" du tableau de bord. (dup-of: 146528)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165017
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #172317 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes/crashes in SPARC Platform" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172317
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #162500 in totem (main) "totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162500
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #163066 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crashed with IOError in mark_report_seen() (dup-of: 129146)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163066
[13:40] <ubotu> New bug: #172319 in gnome-print (universe) "printing error in gnome apps with epson d120" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172319
[13:45] <ubotu> New bug: #172321 in texlive-lang (main) "couldn't configure texlive-lang-cyrillic when upgrade or install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172321
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #163358 in gthumb (main) "gthumb crashes when moving an open image file to the recycle bin on an ntfs-3g file system (dup-of: 145841)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163358
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #172323 in amule (universe) "amule crashing on servers list download (on downloading from http://ocbmaurice.dyns.net/pl/slist.pl?download/server-best.met)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172323
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #172325 in pypanel (universe) "Picasa makes pypanel self-destruct" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172325
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172327 in update-manager (main) "el update-manager me dijo que actualizara a la version dde kubuntu 7.10 cuando en realidad tengo la 7.10, me actualizo y me dio error de que no habia actualizaciones disponibles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172327
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172328 in ubuntu "error during Feisty->Gutsy Gibbon upgrade: failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172328
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #172326 in gcc-4.1 (main) "Reproducable SIGSEGV (char ************* etc.)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172326
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #162440 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany crash on this URL http://www.atimes.com/" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162440
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #163084 in totem (main) "totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163084
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #164929 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 145230)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164929
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172329 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Rocrail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172329
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172330 in ubuntu "NetworkManager can't connect to wireless network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172330
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172331 in lyx (universe) "lyx should depend on texlive-fonts-recommended" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172331
[14:36] <ubotu> New bug: #172332 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Nautilus DVD creator hangs when trying to write files to disc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172332
[14:36] <ubotu> New bug: #172333 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "gnome-fifth-toe: still depends on gaim" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172333
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172334 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice.org-Calc 2.3: pressing "Function Wizard" button causes application crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172334
[14:42] <ubotu> New bug: #172322 in hotkey-setup (main) "laptop not communicate to a projector" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172322
[14:46] <ubotu> New bug: #163147 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163147
[14:46] <ubotu> New bug: #172336 in enigmail (main) "thunderbird enigmail does not work with passphrases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172336
[14:52] <ubotu> New bug: #164062 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in main()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164062
[14:55] <ubotu> New bug: #172337 in firefox (main) "Error in parsing value for property " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172337
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #163805 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in g_value_peek_pointer() (dup-of: 132637)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163805
[14:57] <ubotu> New bug: #162937 in powertweak (universe) "powertweakd crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen() (dup-of: 150608)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162937
[14:57] <ubotu> New bug: #163065 in file-roller (main) "file-roller crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163065
[15:00] <ubotu> New bug: #172339 in firefox (main) "firefox won't print after upgrade from fiesty to gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172339
[15:10] <ubotu> New bug: #162018 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashed at setup wizard screen" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162018
[15:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172340 in firefox (main) "cannot load and access bank website with the new festy ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172340
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172341 in librsvg (main) "opening a specific svg uses 100% ram" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172341
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172342 in yelp (main) "upgrade to ubuntu 7.10 failed completely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172342
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #172343 in ktorrent (main) "ktorrent group names broken for accented characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172343
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #172344 in gnome-panel (main) "cannot mount volume (dvd udf volume)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172344
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172345 in firefox (main) "XML Parsing Error firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172345
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #172346 in ubuntu "WIFI WPA support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172346
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172347 in ubuntu "ATI Radeon X600 dual head with Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172347
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #172348 in ubuntu "gnome-settings seems messy/broken after install of ubuntustudio/gstreamer packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172348
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #172349 in libnss-ldap (main) "Feisty -> Gutsy upgrade fails to carry config forward" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172349
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172350 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashes on properities action of mp3 file on network directory (SMB, FTP)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172350
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172351 in xdebconfigurator (universe) "When I download from Update Manager or Synaptic Package Manager I always get the following error." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172351
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172352 in debian-installer (main) "no entiendo el ingles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172352
[16:09] <bdmurray> pedro_: morning
[16:10] <pedro_> hey bdmurray, afternoon here :-P
[16:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172354 in pidgin (main) "[hardy] request for upstream update for pidgin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172354
[16:12] <bdmurray> pedro_: good day then?
[16:13] <pedro_> bdmurray: quite busy since the retracer is working again, so we're getting somewhat flooded
[16:13] <pedro_> but is getting better with the help of sourcercito at the desktop bugs
[16:13] <pedro_> how about you ?
[16:13] <sourcercito> what?
[16:14] <bdmurray> A bit early to tell - but I am feeling more in sync with my timezone.
[16:14] <bdmurray> pedro_: Could you add the tags we talked about to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20071128 ?
[16:14] <pedro_> bdmurray: sure
[16:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172355 in gnome-control-center (main) "Can't security-lock screen from Take a Break screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172355
[16:16] <bdmurray> pedro_: great thanks!
[16:16] <pedro_> thanks you for working on the list!
[16:16]  * pedro_ hugs bdmurray
[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #130234 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130234
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #163729 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163729
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #172359 in ubuntu "inconsistent open office font formatting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172359
[16:56] <keescook> Fujitsu: ubuntu-cve> I don't know about RSN -- the queries aren't so good yet.
[17:08] <ubotu> New bug: #172364 in rhythmbox (main) "Podcast problem error dialogues should be combined" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172364
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #159719 in alsa-lib (main) "ekiga crashes with pulseaudio" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159719
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #172361 in compiz (main) "Alt+tab shows titlebar on switcher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172361
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #172363 in mailscanner (universe) "mailscanner should depend on initscripts from edgy or greater" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172363
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172365 in totem (main) "/media/disk/vk.odt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172365
[17:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172367 in resolvconf (universe) "resolv.conf search list truncated - not to specification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172367
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172368 in firefox (main) "Downloaded the update from "Main Server" for Firefox. Now some sites (eg. vodacom4me.co.za) dont display as before.  [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172368
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #172369 in amarok (main) "amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172369
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172370 in scim-tables (main) "scim module won't install on upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172370
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172371 in amarok (main) "Amarok cover art corrupted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172371
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172372 in ubuntu "[gutsy] Sony Vaio VGN-FZ* Motion Eye Camera" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172372
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #172374 in openoffice.org (main) "oocalc crashs while handling a xls file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172374
[18:07] <ubotu> New bug: #172375 in grub (main) "Excessive boot time in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172375
[18:32] <ubotu> New bug: #172379 in hevea (main) "[hardy] Rebuild with ocaml 3.10.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172379
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #172380 in gthumb (main) "gThumb no longer renders WMF files like 7.04 did." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172380
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #160670 in pidgin (main) "pidgin 2.2.1 (dup-of: 158400)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160670
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #172384 in ubuntu "Cannot unmount DellRestore and DellUtility partitions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172384
[18:50] <ubotu> New bug: #172385 in compiz (main) "compiz should depend on compiz-gnome | compiz-kde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172385
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #172387 in nautilus (main) "WMF files are no longer rendered in Nautilus. (dup-of: 172380)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172387
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #172388 in ubuntu "Multiuser KDE Storage Medium Daemon Pops Up For Everyone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172388
[19:21] <ubotu> New bug: #172389 in ubuntu "emacs22-common_22.1-0ubuntu5.1_all.deb fails to install on dist-upgrade in gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172389
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172390 in ubuntu "KDM already logged in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172390
[19:36] <ubotu> New bug: #150116 in d4x (universe) "nt crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150116
[19:42] <ubotu> New bug: #150157 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150157
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #150715 in logrotate (main) "logrotate crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150715
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #150826 in limo (universe) "limo crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150826
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #150861 in zapping (universe) "zapping crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150861
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148926 in vlc (universe) "vlc crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148926
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149139 in glabels (universe) "glabels crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149139
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149169 in consolekit (main) "No login sound and no login 'bar'" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149169
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149392 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149392
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148612 in shadow (main) "login crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148612
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148629 in cpio (main) "cpio crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148629
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148869 in grsync (universe) "grsync crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148869
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172395 in ubuntu "Storage Medium Icons Show Up After a Mounting/Unmounting Operation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172395
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172396 in ubuntu "no audio with card intel82801g ich7 family" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172396
[20:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148151 in sudo (main) "sudo crashed with SIGILL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148151
[20:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148251 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed when i clicked on the contact window" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148251
[20:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172398 in apt-mirror (universe) "please sync apt-mirror_0.4.4+debian-2 from debian (main) to hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172398
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #172399 in ubuntu "Give full screen window focus on multiple screens on mouse over" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172399
[20:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172400 in ia32-libs (universe) "libpam-runtime missing from ia32-libs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172400
[20:25] <ubotu> New bug: #172402 in evince-gtk (main) "Evince automatically starts up when loading Xubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172402
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172403 in ubuntu "KDM Spash Screen Blank Until Screensaver Kicks In" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172403
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #172413 in gthumb (main) "gthumb crashed with SIGFPE" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172413
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #172415 in xdg-user-dirs (main) "No Downloads folder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172415
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #172416 in eog (main) "eog determines image type from filename" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172416
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172417 in rhythmbox (main) "Columns not editable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172417
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172419 in ubuntu "firefox freezes and turns gray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172419
[21:04] <Fujitsu> keescook: I don't quite see how that affects the location of the branch.
[21:09] <lifeless> ECHANNEL?
[21:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172420 in moodle (main) "can't create database tables" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172420
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #172422 in alsa-lib (main) "Please uplaod merge alsa-lib 1.0.15-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172422
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #172423 in libfile-desktopentry-perl (universe) "New upstream version (0.04)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172423
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #172424 in ubuntu "Wish: Seperating Admin (password dialogs) From Everyone Else (warnings)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172424
[21:35] <ubotu> New bug: #172426 in hildon-desktop (universe) "home screen having issues with scrolling and focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172426
[21:41] <rulus> Is a new phenomenon coming up? Bugspam.. see bug #121653, last comment
[21:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121653 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy] fglrx breaks over suspend/resume" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121653
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172429 in openoffice.org (main) "feisty Fawn / Ubuntu 7.04: samsung ML-1610 gdi OO-folio or letter, anyway: printing is... NOT fitting the page and awful..., not what i am used to with OO, i cannot choose for another printer..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172429
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172432 in ubuntu "Wish: Removable Mediums, Permissions and Multiple Users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172432
[21:57] <ubotu> New bug: #172427 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Uses external DVI port as main screen on iMac G5 rev C - ATI X600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172427
[21:57] <ubotu> New bug: #172430 in ubuntu "Wish: Assigning Static Consoles To Users Hopefully Improving Multiuser Workflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172430
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #172433 in ubuntu "too many SCSI scanners found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172433
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172434 in evolution (main) "Should be able to define personal safe senders within Evolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172434
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #172435 in gdm (main) "login hangs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172435
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172436 in kdetoys (main) "gutsy: kontact will not include weather in summary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172436
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #172437 in ubiquity (main) "Bug of installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172437
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #172438 in ubuntu "Wish: kdesudo2: A Convenient Hybrid Dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172438
[22:30] <ubotu> New bug: #172439 in ubuntu "installer gets time wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172439
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #172440 in wordpress "[CVE-2007-6013] Authentication cookies easily derivable from password hash" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172440
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #172441 in vnc (universe) "xvncviewer text input not working properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172441
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172442 in firefox (main) "XML Parsing Error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172442
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #172443 in geany (universe) "geany locks up when opening file (via dialog or from other app)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172443
[23:02] <alain> Creating Ubuntu directories on NTFS accepts the colon sign (:), bug unrecognized when switching back to WinXP
[23:03] <alain> Shoudn't users be warned against colons (:) in NTFS directories?
[23:04] <RAOF> Maybe?
[23:05] <RAOF> There are a whole bunch of illegal characters in Windows filenames.  IIRC, the null character is the only illegal char in linux filenames.
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #172444 in gdm (main) "[Gutsy] Logout a session causes X-Window changes from VT7 to VT9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172444
[23:06] <RAOF> alain: So the problem is somewhere between allowing people to use NTFS as a native FS, and using it for interoperability with winxp.
[23:07] <alain> raof: That's exactly it
[23:08] <RAOF> Because disalowing all the XP-illegal chars could break programs which expect to be able to write oddly named files.
[23:08] <alain> raof: Ubuntu already provides lots of wise anticipation in using one's PC, it would demonstrate additional prevention guidelines
[23:09] <RAOF> alain: So, what are you actually suggesting changes?
[23:11] <alain> raof: I imagine some user-configurable option activating such control especially if GRUB is around
[23:12] <alain> I assume NTFS dictates some Win user will ultimately read that drive with Windows at some point in time..
[23:13] <alain> .. although I'm not sure how/when such check could be configured and exhibited to the user/apps
[23:15] <ubotu> New bug: #172445 in firefox (main) "firefox crash when I digit on WEB pages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172445
[23:16] <alain> raof: is this channel the right place to address this?or should I post this in some different forum?
[23:17] <RAOF> alain: You probably want to bring this up on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list.
[23:17] <RAOF> alain: Because it's not obvious what, if anything, to do about it.
[23:18] <alain> raof: Agreed, Thanks..
[23:19] <RAOF> I *think* it may have been discussed before, though.
[23:19] <RAOF> You might want to search the archives first :)
[23:21] <ubotu> New bug: #172446 in kdesdk (main) "adding entity attribute don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172446
[23:21] <ubotu> New bug: #172447 in nautilus (main) "'Send to' uses same shortcut for two functions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172447
[23:21] <bdmurray> jjesse: ping
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #172449 in gcalctool (main) "unable to use MOD operation after a  x ᶺ y operation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172449
[23:31] <alain> raof: bye
[23:36] <ubotu> New bug: #172452 in ubuntu "Various programs filling memory up until freeze (firefox 3.0 beta1, totem, and rhythmbox) possibly pulseaudio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172452
[23:45] <ubotu> New bug: #172453 in hal (main) "Hardy: Unable to mount removable devices" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172453
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #172454 in apt-mirror (universe) "mips/mipsel arch selection problem and armel arch support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172454


[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[09:19] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Single Tasking Day! :-D
[09:37] <mzanetti> dpm: o/
[09:37] <dpm> hey mzanetti, morning!
[09:38] <mzanetti> dpm: can you give this a shot when you have some time? lp:~mzanetti/reminders-app/tablet
[09:38] <mzanetti> dpm: It's not complete, but I'd like a quick discussion about it
[09:38] <mzanetti> once you've seen it
[09:38] <dpm> mzanetti, sure, I don't have a tablet, so I'll be testing it on the desktop. popey has borrowed a N10 and can probably test it on a real device
[09:38] <mzanetti> desktop is fine
[09:39] <mzanetti> I didn't test it on a real tablet yet either
[09:39] <dpm> ok, give me 5 mins and I'll give it a go
[09:39]  * dpm is looking forward to seeing tablet mode
[09:40] <mzanetti> don't get too excited yet
[09:41] <nik90> zsombi: hey good morning
[09:41] <nik90> zsombi: I got a small question about Ubuntu Layouts
[09:41] <zsombi> nik90: good afternoon :)
[09:41] <zsombi> nik90: gpo ahead
[09:41] <nik90> zsombi:timezones yes
[09:41] <zsombi> ;)
[09:42] <nik90> zsombi: can I define a Flickable inside a conditional layout instead of a row or a column?
[09:42] <zsombi> nik90: everything should be possible
[09:42] <zsombi> nik90: we don't have samples for that, but Fliockable is yet another Item, right?
[09:42] <zsombi> Flickable I mean
[09:42] <nik90> zsombi: I am getting an issue where the page header doesn't detect that the convergent layout is using the flickable
[09:42] <nik90> zsombi: as a result the page header doesn't hide when scrolling up
[09:43] <nik90> zsombi: that's why I thought perhaps I was doing something wrong
[09:43] <zsombi> nik90: yep, the page header is an issue... it does not detect runtime changes
[09:43] <mzanetti> same issue here :)
[09:43] <nik90> zsombi: but yes Flickable is an item
[09:43] <nik90> zsombi: so If I set the flickable property of the page manually, then hopefully that should fix the issue?
[09:43] <zsombi> nik90: it's a problem of page header unfortunately
[09:44] <zsombi> nik90: yep, that shoudl do the job
[09:44] <nik90> mzanetti: nice to know :) .. if one of us has a solution to it, then let the other person know.
[09:44] <nik90> zsombi: thnx..
[09:44] <mzanetti> I just started yesterday evening with the tablet mode for reminders
[09:44] <mzanetti> the content itself works quite well
[09:44] <mzanetti> but header and toolbar get messed up badly when unsing 2 pagestacks next to each other
[09:45] <zsombi> mzanetti: nik90: you guys should have started the whole app with that in mind ;) :P
[09:45] <nik90> mzanetti: I started in the weekend but had to stop because of a critical crash when switching layouts..
[09:45] <dpm> mzanetti, ack
[09:45] <zsombi> mik90: I'm investigating the crash there
[09:45] <nik90> mzanetti: Florian figured out that using a Dialer widget caused it
[09:45] <mzanetti> zsombi: well... its just about not pushing everything to the same pagstack
[09:45] <zsombi> mzanetti: ;)
[09:45] <nik90> zsombi: thnx
[09:46] <mzanetti> but yeah... need to figure how to deal with panel and header
[09:46] <zsombi> nik90: it's a setup, where the item laid out contains a loader. Dialer is one of those, but Picker is such as well...
[09:46] <mzanetti> seems the last push()/pop() to any pagestack updates them
[09:47] <mzanetti> dpm: so yeah... that's what I wanted to discuss. How do other apps deal with this?
[09:47] <zsombi> mzanetti: yes, because push/pop updates the flickable property so header can adjust its logic accordingly
[09:48] <mzanetti> zsombi: yeah... makes sense if you have only one pagestack. makes me wonder if I'm actually supposed/allowed to have 2 of them next to each other
[09:48] <zsombi> mzanetti: not really
[09:48] <zsombi> mzanetty that messes up the header for good
[09:48] <zsombi> mzanetti: ^
[09:48] <mzanetti> yeah... so what do you suggest?
[09:49] <zsombi> mzanetti: you'd need a two'column pagestack kinda setup?
[09:49] <dpm> mzanetti, so far we've only got weather and clock that we are also looking to get tablet modes for MWC for, so this is also relatively new to everyone, but as zsombi is here as the master of layouts, he can give us some advice :)
[09:49] <mzanetti> zsombi: yeah
[09:49] <mzanetti> zsombi: let me show you a few screenies.... gimme a minute
[09:50] <zsombi> mzanetti: hehe :) I have a branch which turns PageStack into a two-column layout automatically using Layouts, but as ckpringle went away, that stuff got forgotten onto /dev/null
[09:50] <mzanetti> standard view phone: http://i.imgur.com/thyV6T4.png
[09:50] <mzanetti> after clicking on a note on the phone: http://i.imgur.com/1FTesPj.png
[09:51] <mzanetti> standard view tablet: http://i.imgur.com/TsHrtMF.png
[09:51] <mzanetti> clicking on a note on the tablet: http://i.imgur.com/nUlHE5j.png
[09:51] <mzanetti> now... as you can see there's an edit button for the note, which would push the EditPage on top of the note view page
[09:51] <zsombi> mzanetti: yes, this is what I had for my PageStack
[09:52] <mzanetti> but at the same time, the tabs in the header allow you to switch to notebooks
[09:52] <mzanetti> which in turn would push pages to the left hand side
[09:52] <mzanetti> so yeah. not entirely sure how to deal with it right now
[09:52] <mzanetti> zsombi: are there any chances your 2 column pagestack will make it to trunk at some point?
[09:53] <zsombi> mzanetti: it depends on how UX will pick it up... they're pretty busy with the whole UI reorg atm
[09:53] <mzanetti> heh... true. why am I doing this before the UI reorg actually?
[09:53] <zsombi> mzanetti: but hey, the standard view phone is a Tabs, right?
[09:53] <mzanetti> zsombi: yeah, it is
[09:54] <zsombi> mzanetti: same as the standard tablet, right?
[09:54] <zsombi> mzanetti: and Notes is a PageStack
[09:54] <mzanetti> zsombi: yeah... I just make the pagestack non-anchors-fill just like the uitk gallery
[09:54] <zsombi> Notes tab I mean
[09:54] <mzanetti> and put a second pagestack next to the other
[09:55] <mzanetti> and do some conditional pushes. the rest is identical between phone and tablet
[09:55] <zsombi> mzanetti: ok, is the PageStack depth 2?
[09:55] <mzanetti> zsombi: if you go to Notebooks, you'll get a list of notebooks, you enter one and it pushes a page with the notes in there.
[09:55] <mzanetti> yeah, that's when the depth == 2
[09:56] <zsombi> mzaneti: brilliant!
[09:56] <mzanetti> or also, if you press the search button in the toolbar it pushes a searchPage to the left pagestack
[09:56] <zsombi> mzanetti: then, in Phone layout you use PageStack, on tablet layout you use two columns, no need for pagestack
[09:57] <mzanetti> its not /that/ easy I'm afraid
[09:57] <zsombi> mzanetti: the search will end up in the header, so forget about pushing a page
[09:57] <zsombi> mzanetti: why?
[09:57] <mzanetti> cause both stacks need panels for example
[09:57] <zsombi> mzanetti: what panels?
[09:57] <mzanetti> or well, toolactions, wherever they might be
[09:57] <mzanetti> left one needs: Add note for example
[09:57] <zsombi> mzanetti: the tools will land on the header
[09:58] <mzanetti> right one needs: edit note, delete note, etc
[09:58] <zsombi> mzanetti: you can update those tools based on what you have active
[09:59] <zsombi> mzanetti: and yes, the problem in here is that the whole header-toolbar-search is changing, and everything will be upside down...
[09:59] <mzanetti> zsombi: ah, so I'd need to drop the toolbars from all the pages and only have one toolbar in the MainView, updating contents as I need it?
[10:01] <zsombi> mzanetti: ..... damn it... it would be really good to have that two-column PageStack mode solved by now...
[10:01] <mzanetti> oh yeah, it would :D
[10:01] <mzanetti> why are you chatting around here? get to work :P
[10:01] <zsombi> mzanetti: :P I'm trying to help you out...
[10:02] <mzanetti> I know. just kidding
[10:02] <zsombi> mzanetti: here's the MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/two-pane-pagestack/+merge/172288
[10:03] <mzanetti> zsombi: oh man... this is *exactly* what I'm doing... if its on the left side, pushing, if its on the right side replacing
[10:03] <zsombi> mzanetti: so this setup was supporting depth >2 too
[10:03] <zsombi> mzanetti: ;)
[10:04] <zsombi> mzanetti: this was doing the way that if push() was used on the right pane, the right pane was moved to the left pane, and the right one was updated with the new pushed page
[10:05] <zsombi> mzanetti: so it all depended whether the pushOrReplace() or push() was used
[10:05] <mzanetti> ah... ok... then its a bit different... more like a column-view in a file manager
[10:05] <zsombi> mzanetti: it all depends how you use it
[10:06] <zsombi> mzanetti: "When pages are pushed from the current page (right pane) the current page will be moved into the left pane and the  new one will be placed into the right one. This results in a push operation. When a page is pushed from a left pane page, the current page (from the right pane) will be replaced with the  page that is just pushed."
[10:06] <zsombi> mzanettI: even I don't remember exactly the functionality :D
[10:07] <zsombi> mzanetti: so PushOrReplace() did all 4 U
[10:07] <nik90> zsombi: I have a small issue with labels not being positioned correctly despite using anchors.horizontalcenter to place them properly. As result I get, phone->http://imgur.com/03FmgaI , tablet->http://imgur.com/diTyYFa
[10:07] <mzanetti> right... although not exactly how I'd need it according to this description
[10:08] <mzanetti> I also have the use case that I have depth 1 on the left side and depth 2 on the right side. and then need to push to the left side without changing the right one
[10:08] <nik90> zsombi: Although If I replace those label ItemLayouts with Rectangles, I see that they are placed correctly
[10:08] <nik90> zsombi: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/converge-clock-tab
[10:08] <zsombi> mzanetti: if the active page was on the left side, the pushOrReplace() did show up the page on the right pane
[10:09] <zsombi> mzanetti: then every consecutive pushOrReplace on the left page was doing a replace :)
[10:09] <zsombi> mzanetti: the right-to-left (and vice versa) comes into force when depth > 2
[10:09] <zsombi> nik90: the anchors.verticalCenter will anchor the Label, not the text within
[10:10] <mzanetti> ok. would need to try it... not sure if its really  exactly what I'd need...
[10:10] <mzanetti> but anyways, still leaves the issue with the header and the toolbar I guess
[10:10] <zsombi> nik90: you should use Label.verticalAlignment
[10:11] <zsombi> mzanetti: this stuff was working with those pretty well
[10:11] <nik90> zsombi: will give that a shot nnow
[10:11] <zsombi> mzanetti: and I think we should get this branch up alive again
[10:11] <mzanetti> ideally I'd have 2 headers
[10:11] <zsombi> mzanetti: why would you?
[10:11] <mzanetti> one for the tabs, and one for the content title for the right side
[10:12] <zsombi> mzanetti: ah, yeah, that was also discussed, but that is pretty ugly... and misleading
[10:12] <nik90> zsombi: that did the trick...I didn't have to do this before
[10:12] <zsombi> nik90: beware of this with Labets ;)
[10:12] <zsombi> Labels
[10:14] <nik90> zsombi: :)
[10:20] <nik90> dpm: what do you think is better http://imgur.com/AYpB1Ir or http://imgur.com/diTyYFa
[10:32] <dpm> nik90, both look good, but I personally find http://imgur.com/diTyYFa better. I find the shadow on the other one a bit too deep
[10:32] <dpm> popey, can you have a go at lp:~mzanetti/reminders-app/tablet on the N10?
[10:33] <nik90> dpm: yeah I reverted it to the one that you liked before you said it...It needs more work to make it look better..
[10:38] <dpm> nik90, cool. Did you work around that crash? I've not been following the conversation...
[10:40] <nik90> dpm: no the crash is still there, however I believe Kaleo and zsombi are on it.
[10:40] <nik90> dpm: I am meanwhile trying to implement the phone and tablet views for all tabs.
[10:40] <dpm> awesome
[10:40] <nik90> dpm: when the crash is resolved and pushed to phone, then I will propose a MR
[10:42] <nik90> kalikiana: I saw a boat load of fixes land in the u1db trunk...nice that you got someone to review the MP finally..
[10:42] <nik90> kalikiana: is there a planned landing slot for them?
[10:43] <kalikiana> nik90: no idea yet, still waiting to find out how the fancy new process works, and then to see how to apply it to u1db-qt
[10:43] <kalikiana> I'll know more later today
[10:44] <nik90> kalikiana: nice..I already got most of the fixes from the PPA on my 13.10 :)
[10:46] <popey> dpm: ok
[10:53] <zsombi> (12.40.04) nik90: dpm: no the crash is still there, however I believe Kaleo and zsombi are on it.
[10:54] <zsombi> nik90: dpm: yes, we are on it
[10:54] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: do you have a minute to talk about gallery-app and thumbnails ? I'm trying to figure out the best way to approach the problem I'm having and I can use some advice
[10:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: essentially when you edit the picture the gallery doesn't save the changes on the image on disk, but keeps them in an internal database and applied them to the image on the fly. So if I use the SDK thumbnailer, it will use the images on disk which are different from what the gallery is actually displaying
[10:57] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and the thumbnails won't match, which is not a huge deal when browsing the pictures, but it's a problem when scrolling through them in the photo viewer
[10:57] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, and the SDK thumbnailer can’t be fed with live data, it understands only files on disk?
[10:58] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yes, you pass it a path and it generates the thumbnail for it (or returns it if it's already generated and fresh)
[10:58] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: it saves them on disk based on the md5 of the original image path
[11:01] <popey> dpm: rotation is broken on nexus 10.
[11:02] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i wasn't expecting it to do something like this, i thought it would save changes to the image immediately (losslessly when possible). i think this whole undo/redo stack is problematic as it is implemented now also for integrating the gallery with content hub, as it will have to "flatten" the edit stack to disk when exporting images via the hub anyway
[11:02] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, how about saving modifications to the original images to a separate file on disk, and use that one to generate the thumbnail
[11:02] <oSoMoN> ?
[11:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: that might work, but it's one extra disk write of the full image that we're doing just to generate a thumbnail
[11:04] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, well, not just to generate the thumbnail, the image can then be used to be displayed in the app, instead of having to apply all the modifications on the fly
[11:06] <popey> dpm: mzanetti http://imgur.com/t5xxEpB,528Nscu,2GjsSPb,fseUpjH ⍨
[11:06] <mzanetti> popey: oh
[11:08]  * popey updates tablet
[11:14] <mzanetti> popey: hmm... works here :/
[11:14] <popey> fine here now I updated
[11:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so basically you think that the undo/redo stack should work by keeping around: (1) a copy of the original image (2) the edited version of the file (3) the stack of operations that were applied on it. Then at each operation added to the stack, the file is modified. And when undoing from the stack if the last operation can be rolled back losslessly over the edited image (e.g. rotation for jpegs) then it's don
[11:14] <nerochiaro> e that way, otherwise the original is taken, and all remaining operations are applied to it again in order minus the one being undone
[11:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: does it make sense ?
[11:16] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, doesn’t sound like a good idea, worded like this :)
[11:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: well, it's the best that can be done if there are operations which are lossy, like crop or enhance
[11:17] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I guess that really depends on what operations we want to optimize
[11:17] <oSoMoN> or rather, what use-cases we want to optimize
[11:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: well at the moment we only have 3: rotation, crop and enhance
[11:18] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: but one would expect to be a lot more
[11:19] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, what I meant is: I think it makes sense to ensure that viewing images in their current state is the fastest operation
[11:19] <oSoMoN> argh
[11:19] <oSoMoN> scratch "operation"
[11:19] <oSoMoN> fastest use case
[11:19] <oSoMoN> and it’s probably acceptable to have some overhead when applying new operations, or undoing them
[11:20] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, what are the other options we have, re- generating thumbnails?
[11:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i was specifically asked to use the SDK thumbnailer for gallery, that's why I ended up in this situation. before we were using an internal thumbnailer for gallery
[11:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i think what we can do if we want the easy way out is to use the SDK thumbnailer for browsing and keep the internal for the photo viewer
[11:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: the thumbs for browsing will still not be 100% accurate though
[11:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so if that's important too we can't really switch
[11:21] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, and is modifying the SDK thumbnailer to accept live data an option?
[11:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: not that I know of
[11:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: we can add that ability I guess, but it will be completely custom for us, not part of the freedesktop standard in any way
[11:24] <oSoMoN> doesn’t sound like the best idea
[11:24] <popey> dpm: mzanetti http://imgur.com/tpUFHdc,w3KLulY,ATWS6NG,VZstxmj,GH7B1cM,1TYThPp,UQfIhG6,nrlcgJ1,1yJ2BGx  better
[11:24] <mzanetti> nice
[11:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: other editors seem to keep undo/redo history in memory only while you're editing a picture and they ask you to save when you browse away from it
[11:25] <mzanetti> popey: so yeah. the question what to do with the toolbar still persists
[11:26] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: if we were doing that too, it would solve the issue I think
[11:26] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: as we will regen the thumbs only when we finish with editing
[11:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: but it requires (a) a decision to actually do it and (b) design input on how to ask for save or discard
[11:28] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I’d tend to think that if we’re not asking the user to save/discard, it’s because it was designed this way
[11:28] <zsombi> nik90: ok, I think I found the problem causing Layouts crash
[11:28] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i wouldn't be surprised if a persistent undo/redo stack is something we didn't ask for and yorba decided to put n
[11:28] <nerochiaro> in
[11:29] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I don’t know, but in any case you should check with design first
[11:30] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: right. so while I do that and put this work on hold, is there any other priority that i should take care of, or should i go back and hack on gallery and camera bugs from the high priority list ?
[11:49] <ybon> nik90: ping
[11:54] <rpadovani> mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/fix-attaching-images/+merge/206816/comments/485207
[11:55] <mzanetti> rpadovani: nice, thanks
[12:03] <nik90> ybon: pong
[12:03] <nik90> zsombi: oh nice :)
[12:03] <nik90> zsombi: is it a simple fix?
[12:03] <zsombi> nik90: 3 lines of code :)
[12:04] <nik90> zsombi: lol
[12:04] <ybon> nik90: as autopilot tests are working for you, can you just give me the version of the libs you have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954036/
[12:04] <ybon> just in case I've a bad one
[12:04] <nik90> zsombi: in the SDK or the clock app?
[12:04] <ybon> I'm still unable to run them, and that's annoying :(
[12:04] <zsombi> nik90: in Layouts
[12:04] <zsombi> nik90: SDK
[12:08] <nik90> omg, my irc client didnt send my last few messages..lets try agian
[12:08] <nik90> zsombi: ok...convergence is something I need for the MWC.
[12:08] <nik90> zsombi: can we expect a fix to land on the phone (not just the ppa) by friday?
[12:08] <nik90> ybon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954086/
[12:08] <zsombi> nik90: I got that, I'm already preparing the MR
[12:09] <zsombi> nik90: more than sure
[12:09] <nik90> zsombi: thnx! you rock!
[12:09] <ybon> nik90: thanks :)
[12:09] <ybon> so my autopilot-desktop seems out of date
[12:10] <ybon> I've two versions in my cache, let's take the good one :)
[12:10] <nik90> ybon: :)
[12:11] <ybon> ah:
[12:11] <ybon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:11] <ybon>  autopilot-desktop : Depends: gir1.2-glib-2.0 (>= 1.39.0-0ubuntu1) but 1.38.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:11] <nik90> ybon: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:11] <nik90> 13.10?
[12:11] <nik90> sorry I may have asked this before
[12:11] <ybon> yep
[12:13] <ybon> nik90: do you where you get the gir1 lib from?
[12:13] <nik90> ybon: btw, the entire QA is on a sprint...they are generally online around 19:00 UTC
[12:13] <nik90> ybon: let me check
[12:14] <nik90> ybon: I have 1.38.0-0ubuntu1 installed
[12:14] <ybon> oh, like mine so
[12:14] <ybon> humm
[12:14] <nik90> ybon: what are the autopilot ppa you have?
[12:14] <nik90> do you have more than one?
[12:15] <ybon> humm
[12:16] <ybon> does the 0 sized ones can be of any conflict here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954120/ ?
[12:17] <nik90> no idea
[12:17] <nik90> when you removed the other 2 ppas, do you purge them?
[12:18] <ybon> humm, I've just --remove I think
[12:18] <ybon> let me remove those
[12:18] <nik90> I think you should do a ppa-purge on the ppa to remove all other dependencies it upgraded completely
[12:18] <ybon> right
[12:25] <ybon> can reach to get ppa-purge to get anything (could not find package...), not sure they are really out or I'm missing the syntax for the name
[12:25] <nik90> did you do sudo ppa-purge ppa:name-of-ppa ?
[12:26] <ybon> yup
[12:26] <ybon> and without ppa: and with -p option also
[12:33] <ybon> I think they are purged, at least they do not appears in y-ppa-manager
[12:44] <imapados> Has someone experience about having an own update mechanism and leftover files?
[12:45] <imapados> I'll tried to add some of the self-updated files to /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.list and they will removed correctly. Is that the way to go? To Update the listfile?
[12:50] <wellsb> dholbach, shouldn't the QtWebKit test be a warning, not something that prevents approval (application 41)?  I'll look into whether module module Ubuntu.Components.Extras.Browser UbuntuWebView will work in my situation.  If the experimental features work, I should be able to make the transition
[12:52] <dholbach_> wellsb, great - let me know how it goes
[13:13] <wellsb> dholbach, I'm sure this is probably well documented somewhere, but I've missed a lot of the recent developments.  How can I execute the click test you run before I upload to the store so I can verify there are no errors or warnings and not waste your time?
[13:16] <nik90> mzanetti: Do you know why a label takes so much width? http://imgur.com/OyOIsaB
[13:16] <nik90> mzanetti: I set the label width: contentWidth
[13:18] <nik90> mzanetti: nevermind I fixed it
[13:21] <mzanetti> :)
[13:42] <ybon> nik90: sorry, me again ;) Can you show me the autopilot-desktop details you have? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954457/
[13:42] <ybon> I don't understand at this point how you have autopilot-desktop 1.4 BUT gir1 1.38
[13:43] <zsombi> nik90: the MP that fixes the layouts crash: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/layouts-fix1280359/+merge/206930
[13:43] <nik90> ybon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954464/
[13:43] <ybon> or in other worlds why my version of autopitlo-desktop want gir1 > 1.39
[13:43] <ybon> thanks :)
[13:43] <Kaleo> nik90, zsombi got your fix :) https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/layouts-fix1280359/+merge/206930
[13:44] <nik90> Kaleo: yup he just told me :)
[13:44] <nik90> Kaleo, zsombi: Will test it immediately..I finally figured out to build SDK source branches and test stuff out  :)
[13:44] <Kaleo> nik90, nice )
[13:44] <nik90> ybon: np
[13:44] <ybon> ah, we don't have the same exact version
[13:44] <ybon> 1.4+14.04.20131125bzr397saucy0 vs 1.4+14.04.20131125bzr411saucy0
[13:44] <nik90> zsombi: it is funny how the solution is few lines but the test cases are huge :)
[13:45] <nik90> ybon: I told you I am running the autopilot experimentat PPA(trunk) while you are using the 1.4 PPA
[13:45] <ybon> aaaahh, damn, missed this point, sorry
[13:45] <nik90> ybon: mine gets updated every few days :)
[13:45] <ybon> let's upgrade once again, so :)
[13:46] <nik90> ybon: ensure you first purge your 1.4 ppa properly
[13:46] <zsombi> nik90: yes :) and there were more than 3 lines this time, as there was an other issue with items removed during re-layouting
[13:46] <ybon> yep :)
[13:46] <nik90> randomcpp: hey ... its been a long time..how is it going?
[13:48] <ybon> rhââ, still not the same: 1.4+14.04.20131125-1experimental409~ubuntu13.10.1
[13:48] <randomcpp> I'm studying for exams :S how are you?
[13:48] <ybon> nik90: this one ppa:autopilot/experimental ?
[13:49] <randomcpp> maybe in march I will be able to work again on my projects, I hope
[13:49] <nik90> zsombi: it works! No more crashes yay :)
[13:49] <nik90> randomcpp: good luck with your exams.. I am doing good
[13:49] <zsombi> nik90: überüawesomness :D
[13:49] <nik90> randomcpp: looking forward to saucy bacon new features
[13:49] <nik90> ybon: yeah
[13:50] <zsombi> ehh, I mean über-awesomness
[13:50] <nik90> ybon: https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/experimental
[13:50] <randomcpp> I have some planned, I will develop them as soon as possible when I'll have time :)
[13:50] <randomcpp> I promise
[13:50] <nik90> randomcpp: I also got time to publish my own app as well :)
[13:51] <ybon> nik90: are we sure autopilot-desktop comes from this ppa?
[13:51] <zsombi> Kaleo: :) (15.49.20) nik90: zsombi: it works! No more crashes yay :)
[13:51] <randomcpp> nik90, if you have suggestions just post them on saucybacon issue tracker on github
[13:51] <randomcpp> nik90, nice :)
[13:51] <nik90> randomcpp: definitely like old times :)
[13:51] <randomcpp> yeah :)
[13:51] <Kaleo> :)
[13:52] <nik90> ybon: it seems not
[13:52] <nik90> ybon: I am not sure if autopilot and autopilot-desktop are the same thing
[13:52] <ybon> me neither :)
[13:52] <ybon> but my tests are failing and it's the only package I have different from yours
[13:53] <ybon> so I need to test updating it to see if I can finally run autopilot tests, and push MRs :)
[13:54] <nik90> ybon: just continuing proposing MRs. Jenkins will test your branches until then
[13:54] <ybon> ah, right
[13:54] <nik90> ybon: the only drawback of this situation is you are unable to run your tests, but for now don't let that stop your main work which is the calendar code
[13:54] <ybon> well, let's try upgrading anyway, just in case :)
[13:54] <nik90> ybon: upgrading to 14.04?
[13:54] <ybon> no no :)
[13:55] <ybon> just trying to upgrade autopilot-desktop
[13:55] <nik90> ybon: ah ok
[13:55] <ybon> I'm more comfortable if I can run my tests :)
[13:55] <ybon> so now that i've a possible explanation, let's try to solve, and if it's still not work, I will follow your advice :)
[13:58] <nik90> ybon: ok..you can then later ask in the autopilot channel around 19:00 UTC to get help if it still doesn't work.
[13:59] <ybon> I will be in my plane for Berlin at this time ;)
[13:59] <ybon> but I will in the incoming days :)
[13:59] <ybon> and thanks for your help :)
[14:00] <nik90> np
[14:01] <ybon> ap-desktop weems here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot in the description, but then not in the ppa list https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/1.4
[14:02] <ybon> (not event https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa )
[14:07] <mzanetti> dpm or rpadovani: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/fix-compile-warnings/+merge/206938
[14:08] <dpm> looking at it now...
[14:10] <rpadovani> network and compilation race :D
[14:12] <rpadovani> mzanetti, confirm, no warning, good work :-)
[14:14] <rpadovani> mzanetti, why do you change int i in unsigned int i? It's a question to learn, not a doubt on your code ;-)
[14:14] <mzanetti> rpadovani: because size() from stdlib returns a unsigned int
[14:14] <mzanetti> rpadovani: and the compiler was complaining that I compared int and unsigned int
[14:15] <popey> mzanetti: am I right in saying you said you'd file a bug about the multi-pagestack header issue?
[14:15] <mzanetti> rpadovani: which might cause an issue if we have more than 2 and a half million notes
[14:15] <rpadovani> mzanetti, ahhh, ok, thanks :-)
[14:18] <dpm> mzanetti, reviewed and commented
[14:22] <mzanetti> dpm: :D
[14:22] <dpm> :)
[14:22] <mzanetti> dpm: I'm happy to explain stuff to you if you are interested
[14:22] <mzanetti> just ask
[14:24] <dpm> mzanetti, that's fine. I am interested indeed (it's been quite a while since I programmed in C and a bit in C++, and sometimes I miss it a bit, perhaps in a masochistic way :), but I might not have time today.
[14:25] <mzanetti> dpm: btw. the bit at line 9 is still exactly the same code as before...
[14:25] <mzanetti> dpm: I just put a #ifdef in between to suppress a unused parameter warning
[14:26] <mzanetti> dpm: because the parameter "policy" is only used when HAVE_SCHED_GET_PRIORITY_MAX || HAVE_SCHED_GET_PRIORITY_MIN
[14:26] <mzanetti> so without those its: static int toPthreadPriority(POLICY, PRIORITY priority) {
[14:26] <mzanetti> and with those its: static int toPthreadPriority(POLICY policy, PRIORITY priority) {
[14:26] <dpm> mzanetti, gotcha, thanks. Yeah, I wasn't sure when or why those defines would be defined
[14:27] <zsombi> seb128, kenvandine: hi guys, I have a fix for the ItemSelector regression, here you go for testing: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/itemselector-fix1275861/+merge/206945
[14:27] <seb128> zsombi, great, I'm going to test in a bit, thanks!
[14:27] <zsombi> Kaleo: ^ also, could you pick it up for review?
[14:29]  * zsombi brb
[14:29] <kenvandine> zsombi, awesome!
[14:30] <Kaleo> zsombi, nice!!
[14:30] <Kaleo> seb128, kenvandine, sorry for missing it
[14:31] <zsombi> seb128, kenvandine: yep, sorry guys, it slipped our eyes during the sprint :(
[14:33] <seb128> Kaleo, zsombi: np, thanks for fixing it!
[16:45] <balloons> nik90: ping
[16:45] <nik90> balloons: pong
[16:46] <balloons> nik90: so still looking into things today. Any changes from your end? I'm assuming something changed that broke clock at this point
[16:46] <nik90> balloons: I did not dig into it today...I am busy today with convergence stuff..
[16:47] <balloons> nik90: no worries, just checking in and letting you know what was up
[16:47] <nik90> balloons: I have a feeling EDS could be a potential culprit since I noticed lots of console output when you delete alarms
[16:47] <nik90> balloons: however I am not sure why it causes trunk to fail since there the alarm tests are skipped
[16:47] <balloons> nik90: I see alot of EDS noise too.. is there a rev pre-EDS to try?
[16:48] <nik90> balloons: well that is like rev 200 or something..pre-alarms period
[16:48] <balloons> I don't believe EDS is the reason the app fails to launch however
[16:48] <nik90> balloons: +1
[16:48] <balloons> but there seems to be an issue with it too :-)
[16:48] <balloons> nik90: ok, I'll go run a rev from there just to see :))
[16:48] <nik90> balloons: at this point, my guess would be u1db since that was the main change in the backend, but you tested the rev before the u1db transition and it still failed for you
[16:49] <nik90> balloons: let me know how your investigation goes :)
[16:49] <balloons> nik90: yep.. again, trunk failing, and pre-u1db failing, etc.. It can't be clock :=-)
[16:50] <nik90> balloons: I guess then as far as I know the packages that changed in the past week (which affects clock) are EDS and ui-toolkit
[16:51] <nik90> balloons: can you try an older ui-toolkit release?
[16:51] <nik90> balloons: let's leave EDS to the end
[16:51] <balloons> nik90: I cannot, but yes I agree we need to rollback dependencies until we find out what's up
[16:52] <nik90> balloons: wait you mean in the archive itself? or just locally in your computer?
[16:52] <balloons> nik90: on the jenkins box specifically, as we can't reproduce locally
[16:52] <nik90> balloons: just a heads up, I need the latest ui-toolkit for my upcoming critical patches :P
[16:52] <balloons> nik90: yes, textfield emulator :-)
[16:52] <nik90> balloons: well that and the performance and convergence patches for MWC
[16:53] <balloons> nik90: I think part of the trouble for rolling back jenkins is it's used by more than clock
[16:53] <nik90> balloons: isn't jenkins just a normal desktop running 14.04?
[16:53] <nik90> balloons: it is really weird that we cannot reproduce the failures on our laptops
[17:05] <nik90> hmm really weird I don't see much of popey these days...I need a test bot popey :)
[17:36] <rpadovani> WOW, how many awesome partenership!
[17:36] <rpadovani> http://insights.ubuntu.com/news/growing-app-ecosystem-for-ubuntu-phones/
[17:44] <kalikiana> neat
[17:47] <mzanetti> dpm: popey: can you please test lp:~mzanetti/reminders-app/tablet and tell me what you think?
[17:47] <mzanetti> popey: I've been playing with another way of working around our current issues.
[17:47] <mzanetti> imo quite successful, but with downsides.
[17:48] <mzanetti> it's not polished yet, it'll break if you try to save a note in editpage and the editpage needs to be adapted to make the cheating less visible.
[17:48] <mzanetti> but if you're ok with the direction in general I can fix that
[17:50] <mzanetti> teaser screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/tlptJiN.png
[17:53] <popey> mzanetti: ok
[17:56] <dpm> mzanetti, stepping out for a bit, will try to be around later
[17:56] <mzanetti> ok
[17:57] <m-b-o> popey: hey, could you test something for me on the n10?
[18:00] <popey> m-b-o: sure
[18:01] <m-b-o> popey: can you test the hourly scrolling in lp:~martin-borho/ubuntu-weather-app/conditional-weather ?
[18:01] <popey> ya
[18:02] <popey> m-b-o: just testing another app first, one moment
[18:02] <elopio> ping alex-abreu, are you still here?
[18:02] <alex-abreu> elopio, in a meeting
[18:02] <popey> mzanetti: s/Not note/No Note/
[18:02] <alex-abreu> elopio, still have you rbranch to review
[18:03] <mzanetti> popey: heh, thanks
[18:03] <elopio> alex-abreu, ah, yes that.
[18:03] <elopio> alex-abreu, and I'm looking at your autopilot fixes for the webapps, but they have a conflict.
[18:03] <popey> mzanetti: it looks janky.. lemme get a picture
[18:03] <mzanetti> popey: yeah, the edit page, right?
[18:03] <popey> no, initial page with no note open
[18:03] <elopio> alex-abreu, continue with your meeting. Sorry to interrupt.
[18:05] <popey> mzanetti: http://imgur.com/QS36zmR
[18:05] <mzanetti> popey: right... the side stage handle is another issue in unity8, that's not the reminders app
[18:05] <mzanetti> popey: if you mean the header, I could probably put an empty header there for the initial page
[18:06] <mzanetti> popey: but what I'm really interested in, is if the behavior of the headers and toolbars is ok this way (if I'll polish a little more)
[18:06] <nik90> mzanetti: I think it would be nice to show a vertical divider between the two columns
[18:07] <mzanetti> nik90: +1
[18:07] <mzanetti> nik90: is there already some existing patterns other apps use?
[18:07] <nik90> mzanetti: I use a component written by iBelieve where he takes the ListItem.ThinDivider and rotates it 90 degrees.
[18:08] <mzanetti> nik90: ack. will do that
[18:23] <popey> m-b-o: yes, that fixes hourly
[18:23] <popey> (which looks awesome with the animations btw)
[18:24] <m-b-o> popey: thanks! And the values are getting updated in all the shapes?
[18:24] <popey> yes
[18:24] <m-b-o> cool :)
[18:24] <popey> nic one!
[18:25] <m-b-o> popey: can you make screenhsots on the n10?
[18:25] <popey> sadly not
[18:25] <popey> only shaky-cam photos
[18:25] <m-b-o> How many days are shown in the right sidebar?
[18:25] <popey> 9.5 ☻
[18:26] <m-b-o> but you can scroll to 10.0?
[18:26] <popey> yes
[18:26] <m-b-o> without getiing bounced back or so?
[18:27] <popey> yes
[18:27] <popey> its fine
[18:27] <popey> you either see the top 9.5 or the bottom 9.5
[18:27] <popey> i take it we can't make those 10% smaller to fit them all in?
[18:28] <m-b-o> for MWC?
[18:28] <m-b-o> in general, there other tablets as well... :)
[18:28] <popey> yeah, not tried on my nexus 7, but that resolution is all over the place
[18:29] <m-b-o> how do you get the app on the device, btw?
[18:30] <popey> with some pain
[18:30] <m-b-o> hehe
[18:30] <popey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6949462/
[18:31] <popey> adb shell.. click list | grep weather, click unregister com.ubuntu.weather x.x, pkcon install-local com.ubuntu.weather....click
[18:33] <popey> cmake ☹
[18:34] <mrgoodcat> at this stage in development where would help be most appreciated? e.g. bug triage, bug reporting, coding, designing...
[18:35] <m-b-o> popey: yes... and what does "click-buddy --dir . --provision"  ?
[18:36] <popey> m-b-o: pass
[18:36] <popey> mrgoodcat: you offering your services? ☻
[18:37] <mrgoodcat> recently i've been trying to get more involved in the community in general. just joined michigan loco and a local coding group here as well. since touch apps seem to be the focus right now it seemed a good place to start
[18:41] <popey> mrgoodcat: what's your specific area of interest?
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> nothing in particular. thats why i asked where help would be appreciated. i have coded in other languages but never qml (although i pick up languages fairly quickly) but i wouldn't limit myself to just coding since there doesn't seem to be a shortage of coding talent
[18:52] <nik90> m-b-o:  "click-buddy --dir . --provision" gets the device ready to run autopilot tests
[18:52] <m-b-o> nik90: ah, ok. but doesn't install it?
[18:52] <nik90> m-b-o: btw I am unable to run your branch properly for some reason..as It asks me for my location which I then choose, but it doesn't get past the loading indicator :/
[18:53] <nik90> m-b-o: click-buddy installs it on the device
[18:53] <m-b-o> nik90: you the api_key
[18:53] <nik90> m-b-o: ah
[19:44] <balloons> nik90: still working on getting things fixed with clock landing
[19:46] <nik90> balloons: I just heard from someone else that they also had a similar dbus error while running AP tests on the 14.04 desktop
[19:47] <nik90> balloons: it was the sudoku app developer
[19:47] <balloons> nik90: ohh, any more news on that?
[19:47] <balloons> nik90: and you are on saucy yes?
[19:47] <nik90> balloons: that's right, I am on saucy
[20:36] <dac> hi there
[20:37] <Guest96699> is anyone here?
[20:38] <rpadovani> Guest96699, lot of people :-)
[20:39] <Guest96699> hehe, I see.
[20:40] <Guest96699> I have a question regarding Qt Creator and HTML5 app.
[20:41] <rpadovani> Guest96699, so, please, do your question :-) If someone knows the answer will reply
[20:43] <Guest96699> Well, I created a html5 app project (Hello world). But when I start it, I can't click on Hello, I mean, nothing happens. When I run index.html on chrome, I can click on Hello and go to second page but then BACK button does not work.
[20:46] <dpm> nik90, did you get sorted with the Weather app's API key? If not, just let me know and I can explain how to get it working
[20:46] <nik90> dpm: I got it working..m-b-o showed me how to do it
[20:46] <dpm> great
[20:46] <nik90> dpm: I just wanted to peek at the convergence look
[20:46] <nik90> dpm: btw the critical convergence bug has been fixed
[20:47] <dpm> cool!
[20:47] <nik90> dpm: I finished clock, stopwatch convergence...
[20:47] <nik90> dpm: working on alarm and timer now
[20:49] <dpm> nik90, wohoo! excellent
[20:50] <m-b-o> dpm would you have a look at the conditonal-weatehr branch? the right side, the hieght of the list especially
[20:50] <dpm> hi m-b-o, sure, checking it out now...
[20:56] <dpm> m-b-o, looks good! A couple of comments:
[20:57] <dpm> - Would it be possible to add some padding to the left of the list, so that the left edge of the icons aligns with the "Forecast" label?
[20:57] <m-b-o> yes
[20:58] <dpm> cool
[20:59] <dpm> m-b-o, also still regarding padding: - could we add some padding to the bottom of each list item, so that both the top and bottom padding surrounding the icon is the same?
[21:01] <m-b-o> dpm: I'm using the  "ListItem.Subtitled", don't know if it's possible
[21:01] <m-b-o> I'll try
[21:02] <dpm> m-b-o, ah, I see
[21:05] <m-b-o> dpm: I guess not
[21:05] <m-b-o> not with Subtitled
[21:05] <m-b-o> I guess
[21:11] <dpm> m-b-o, no worries, thanks for looking. Regarding the list height, do you know if the list on the right panel is fully shown on a N7 and on a N10? I think you were asking around earlier on...
[21:12] <m-b-o> popey said 9.5 are visible on n10, n7 we don't know
[21:13] <m-b-o> dpm: propably setting width and height in ubuntu-weather-app to 128 and 80 shoudl give us a hint
[21:13] <m-b-o> ubuntu-weather-app.qml
[21:13] <dpm> ah, good idea
[21:35] <m-b-o> dpm: neokore will be ready with the left side tomorrow. too late?
[21:37] <dpm> m-b-o, it depends on the time tomorrow, I'll need to ask cwayne
[21:38] <dpm> (I'm doing that now)
[21:39] <nik90> dpm: regarding http://insights.ubuntu.com/news/growing-app-ecosystem-for-ubuntu-phones/, are all these done in collaboration with the community? Or these companies are announcing that they are building it for ubuntu touch..
[21:39] <nik90> both are awesome..just wondering
[21:41] <dpm> nik90, it depends on the ISV. For TWC for example, it's direct engagement with them + community work = Ubuntu Weather app + TWC backend. For the others in that list, it's mostly direct engagement and Canonical creating webapps for them.
[21:41] <nik90> nice..yeah I noticed that some are requestion scopes and lenses..pretty cool that they see the benefit of scopes in the unity dash
[21:42] <dpm> or for Cordova it's doing platform work to ensure Ubuntu is a supported platform by upstream
[21:42] <nik90> s/requestion/request
[21:42] <dpm> indeed :)
[21:46] <m-b-o> dpm: Im not available tomorrow evening, so perhaps you could copy conditional-weather and raul will merge in your branch?
[21:49] <dpm> m-b-o, yes
[21:50] <m-b-o> so tomorrow evening would be okay to get the merge from raul?
[21:50] <dpm> m-b-o, yes, but if possible as early in the evening as possible
[21:50] <dpm> m-b-o, for that left padding I mentioned earlier on, would you like me to file a bug, or is this something you're already looking into?
[21:51] <m-b-o> dpm: already pushed! ;)
[21:51] <dpm> awesome, pulling :)
[21:52] <m-b-o> dpm: I'll tell raul
[21:52] <dpm> ok, cool
[21:53] <dpm> m-b-o, is it possible to add the padding to the lines separating each list item, or is this something that you cannot change?
[21:53] <dpm> (looking good, btw)
[21:53] <m-b-o> I think not, these ListItems are relatively static.
[21:54] <dpm> ok, then no worries
[21:54] <dpm> let me have a look at the API docs, there was another thing I wanted to ask you about the data we're showing for TWC...
[21:54] <nik90> popey: thnx for the new clock app icon :)
[21:55] <dpm> to see if we can get Pressure shown instead of UV index, so that we're consistent with OWM
[21:56] <m-b-o> dpm: there is pressure for TWC?
[21:57] <dpm> that's what I wanted to check, I can't tell off the top of my head, but I want to see if it's possible
[21:59] <dpm> m-b-o, it's possible using the Observation command
[22:00] <m-b-o> dpm: but not for days (or hours) AFAIk
[22:01] <dpm> oh, I see, it's instant barometric pressure, bummer
[22:01] <popey> ☻ nik90
[22:05] <m-b-o> dpm: we should consolidate the availabel data on occasion. Sunset/Sunrise shoudl be availabel for TWC and OWM for the current day for example
[22:05] <m-b-o> also feelsLike for TWC and so on
[22:08] <dpm> m-b-o, +1
[22:09] <dpm> m-b-o, ok, so if I coordinate with neokore the landing of the left side panel, are you're happy with the status of the branch as it is now?
[22:10] <dpm> I'm going to step out in a minute
[22:10] <m-b-o> dpm: I'm too! :)
[22:10] <m-b-o> dpm: raul knows hwo we will merge
[22:10] <m-b-o> dpm: I think it'll be okay for MWC. :)
[22:11] <m-b-o> dpm: will be around tomorrow until 16utc, so if there are some changes needed, ping me!
[22:11] <dpm> m-b-o, awesome, thanks a lot for all the effort, this is going to be extremely helpful to showcase the tablet at MWC!
[22:12] <m-b-o> I'm eager to learn what will be announced!
[22:12] <m-b-o> (if)
[22:13] <dpm> :-)
[22:14] <m-b-o> good n8
[22:15] <dpm> good night m-b-o and everyone!
[22:43] <wittybear> anyone else got problems installing the ubuntu-sdk ?
[22:47] <wittybear> For anyone interested details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/+bug/1281814
[22:47] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1281814 in [obsolete] Ubuntu QtCreator Plugins "Ubuntu SDK does not install on clean 12.04 LTS (64bit)" [Undecided,New]
[22:54] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hey, wanna test some reminders goodness? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/tablet/+merge/207062
[22:56] <rpadovani> mzanetti, yes, sure :-) There is a texconflict in EditNotePage ;-)
[22:56] <mzanetti> interesting.. will fix
[22:58] <mzanetti> rpadovani: pushed
[22:59] <rpadovani> k
[23:12] <balloons> nik90: branches should be landing again
[23:13] <nik90> balloons: yay!
[23:13] <nik90> balloons: What was the fix?
[23:13] <balloons> nik90: qt5organizer5-eds causing issues
[23:14] <nik90> balloons: I just read fginther's comments in an MP "I think the tests are working now after removing qtorganizer5-eds from the test environment. Re-approving to retest."
[23:14] <nik90> balloons: so would my alarm tests pass considering they need EDS to work?
[23:14] <balloons> nik90: it's what we thought might be the case, but it's odd
[23:14] <balloons> nik90: that package is not a dependency of clock atm.. should it be? it seems to be being used by it
[23:15] <nik90> balloons: it is not a direct dependency of clock
[23:15] <nik90> balloons: clock uses Alarms API (from SDK) -> SDK should have EDS as dependency
[23:16] <balloons> nik90: I guess we will see. We can have them use the old version if needed, which I assumed they were going to rollback , but
[23:17] <nik90> balloons: but how old are you rolling back to?
[23:17] <nik90> balloons: since there were some recent fixes to EDS that the Alarms API needs
[23:18] <nik90> balloons: either way, let try to merge my Alarms API then next
[23:19] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I find only one error, great work :-)
[23:19] <rpadovani> But also two strange behavior
[23:19] <rpadovani> https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/tablet/+merge/207062/comments/485656
[23:19] <balloons> nik90: right, just try and let me know
[23:20] <nik90> balloons: can you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-alarm-tests/+merge/205154 then
[23:21] <nik90> elopio: if you agree as well, pls approve the above MP
[23:21] <nik90> ^^
[23:26] <iBelieve> balloons, ping
[23:26] <balloons> iBelieve: pong
[23:27] <mzanetti> rpadovani: ok, will fix
[23:27] <iBelieve> hey balloons, all the autopilot tests crashed on my merge request and I'm wondering if you can help figure out why: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty/1386/?
[23:28] <iBelieve> balloons, they're working when I run them locally. The merge request is: https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/better-desktop-support/+merge/198165
[23:28] <mzanetti> rpadovani: where is the height smaller than the window? at the bottom or the top?
[23:30] <rpadovani> mzanetti, at the bottom. I'm not able to take a screenshot because when I press stamp the toolbar goes up
[23:30] <rpadovani> mhhh, I can use scrot
[23:31] <mzanetti> strange... doesn't happen here. a screenshot would be helpful, yes
[23:33] <rpadovani> mzanetti, http://people.ubuntu.com/~rpadovani/touch/tabletReminder.jpg
[23:34] <mzanetti> rpadovani: I think this is the edit panel but you're missing the icons
[23:34] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I am a bit ashamed, you are right
[23:35] <mzanetti> no problem
[23:35] <mzanetti> admittedly it doesn't really look good
[23:35] <elopio> nik90, I'm here!
[23:35] <elopio> I'm sorry, I'm going to the backscroll and I'll try to help you.
[23:36] <rpadovani> mzanetti, maybe with icon is better :-)
[23:36] <rpadovani> *icons
[23:36] <balloons> iBelieve: I see the issue
[23:36] <balloons> iBelieve: so things went to cmake, and you need to add new stuff to the CMakelist
[23:36] <mzanetti> rpadovani: http://i.imgur.com/1IxcliC.png
[23:36] <balloons> iBelieve: did you add pathbar?
[23:37] <rpadovani> mzanetti, yap, it is better, but maybe design input is useful
[23:37] <balloons> iBelieve: so in CMakeList, look for the install line where it's adding the qml files, and include pathbar there also
[23:37] <iBelieve> balloons, ahh, so that's the problem. I merged from master and all I did was change the CMakeList file to rename a file I changed.
[23:37] <iBelieve> balloons, thanks for finding the problem!
[23:37] <nik90> elopio: can you trigger jenkins to run the tests on https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-alarm-tests/+merge/205154
[23:37] <nik90> elopio: I like to know if the tests are passing now
[23:37] <balloons> iBelieve: no worries. The way clock is setup avoids the need for this
[23:38] <iBelieve> balloons, does it use subdirectories and wildcards?
[23:38] <balloons> iBelieve: so it's worth considering arranging things in that directory layout.. it's odd how include work
[23:38] <balloons> iBelieve: the imports are "foldername" and it seems to get the includes correct that way
[23:39] <elopio> nik90, I'm trying...
[23:39] <nik90> elopio: thnx
[23:39] <iBelieve> balloons, okay. I'll rearrange the files after this branch gets merged.
[23:39] <balloons> iBelieve: yea, I'd be curious on feedback from tweaking the layout and includes
[23:39] <balloons> I'm not master at this, but I liked the layout
[23:40] <nik90> iBelieve: take a look at the clock root folder.. that should give you an idea
[23:40] <nik90> iBelieve: however it is going to be a huge task since you need to modify the includes on all the qml files
[23:40] <nik90> iBelieve: one of the reasons, why I did the organization of the clock app folder (in april 2013) way early in the development
[23:41]  * balloons listens
[23:41] <elopio> nik90, I don't have an account on that jenkins, I'm trying to get one. But balloons rebuild it, it's running.
[23:41] <iBelieve> nik90, what I was thinking about was having "components/" for non-page-level stuff, and "ui/" for pages, dialogs, and sheets. That way it shouldn't be too hard
[23:42] <nik90> iBelieve: that should be okay as well
[23:44] <balloons> iBelieve: after you do that, you *should* be able to drop the install line where everything is specified
[23:44] <balloons> and imports should *just work*
[23:44] <iBelieve> balloons, that would be very nice to have
[23:54] <rpadovani> mzanetti, a couple of questions about camera:
[23:54] <rpadovani> - Adding support to switch camera requests a lot of code, is it necessary?
[23:55] <rpadovani> because it is an 'advance' feature and requests C++. I can do it, but I think it too much for a photo in reminder app
[23:56] <rpadovani> - In camera app there is support for rotation of icons if you rotate the device, do I implement it?
[23:56] <iBelieve> balloons, nik90: just refactored the files into the new layout. I only had to change a few QML imports.  The question is, will the CMakeList file work right...
[23:57]  * balloons believes
[23:58] <mzanetti> rpadovani: no need for rotation
[23:58] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hmm... switching camera would be quite useful I think. but not required for a first step
[23:58] <rpadovani> mzanetti, ok, good, I have only a couple of issues, hope to fix for tomorrow afternoon :-)
[23:59] <iBelieve> balloons, :)


[14:35] <slacker_nl> water!
[15:24] <autra> Can someone with dual screen help me to confirm this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1177379
[15:24] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1177379 in Unity "When dual screen, Firefox changes of screen when opening an url from another apps not in the same viewport" [Undecided,New]