[00:05] <tritium> I'm also waiting on the Asus P5N7A-EM, with nVidia GeForce 9400, but perhaps I'll just get the Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H, since it's already out.
[00:13] <mnemonic76> I am trying to install mythtv on ubuntu 8.04 desktop. This will be a front and backend. I have installed the mythbuntu and mythtv-backend packages via synaptic... but it seems there are some problems. can someone look at the output?
[00:15] <tgm4883_laptop> mnemonic76, not unless you pastebin it ;)
[00:21] <jakob__> I'm trying to watch tv off my mythtv backend from a mythtv frontend running on another host
[00:21] <jakob__> I get the following errorRingBuf(/GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/jakob-laptop/1004_20090102010951.mpg): Could not open /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/jakob-laptop/1004_20090102010951.mpg
[00:22] <jakob__> Why does my client think it should playback from it's local filesystem?
[00:22] <jakob__> I have created a LiveTV storage group
[00:23] <jakob__> shouldn't it be trying something like myth://<IP_ADDRESS>/1004_20090102010951.mpg
[00:23] <jakob__> ?
[00:57] <mnemonic76> tgm4883_laptop: Sorry, what is pastebin?
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin | mnemonic76
[01:10] <Zinn> mnemonic76: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[01:11] <gregL> mnemonic76, :http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com
[01:15] <chiques> Is there anyone here to help me out?
[01:19] <mnemonic76> Ahh, thanks... I think I have made some progress... I will let you know.
[01:19] <mnemonic76> I just got a trial membershib on schedulesdirect, and am setting up the backend.
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask | chiques
[01:25] <Zinn> chiques: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[01:36] <mnemonic76> Ok, can you guys look at this? http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/dafb3ccb
[01:37] <mnemonic76> I seem to have the database set up, and I have a trial membership on schedulesdirect. I think it downloaded and filled the db but this output seems to indicate otherwise.
[01:38] <mnemonic76> if I start the frontend as my normal user or sudo, I get the same... the 'watch tv' button just blinks.
[01:49] <NeoMatrixJR> Need some help if anyone can.  Running Mythbuntu 8.10 with the pinnacle 800i (HD card w/ ATSC/NTSC/QAM/FM) with a nVidia FX5500 AGP card.  When running nVidia 173.x driver I get no HD video.  When running no propriatary driver I get HD video, but it's very choppy.  any ideas?
[01:54] <NeoMatrixJR> moving question to mythtv-users...
[02:28] <chiques> tgm4883_laptop, Zinn I asked a question hours ago and I didn't receive a response. I was just wondering if I was doing something wrong.
[02:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> Zinn is a bot
[02:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> !blank% | chiques
[02:30] <Zinn> chiques: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[02:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> that may be your issue
[02:32] <chiques> rhpot1991_laptop, I am unable to get the "Watch TV" selection to perform any task. When I select it it simply flashes the screen and stays at the Mythtv main menu. I've tested with xawtv and my video feed comes in fine (without audio but I'll worry about that later).
[02:33] <chiques> Sorry rhpot1991_laptop I meant that for Zinn
[02:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> Zinn is a bot he only responds to commands
[02:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> read what he said, it tells you how to fix that issue
[02:36] <hads> And the logs
[02:53] <chiques> rhpot1991_laptop, hads oh, sorry. Yeah, I'm a newb.
[02:54] <chiques> rhpot1991_laptop, hads I think I found the problem with the Watch TV flashing with no video. First I had to name my video source then I had to define it. It's a bit wierd, I thought all of this was automatically configured. Guess not.
[02:54] <chiques> Now it's time to troubleshoot the audio problem
[04:02] <fuxxy> I'm trying to set up mythtv-setup on my headless file server using SSH X forwarding. The GUI comes up, and instead of text, I get rows of square boxes where text should be. ANyone know what's up?
[04:02] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: ran a bunch of tests
[04:02] <rhpot1991> disabling upnp didn't help
[04:02] <rhpot1991> neither did changing the playback profile (still going to look at this more)
[04:02] <rhpot1991> using xine instead seems to solve it though
[04:19] <superm1> SHADOW__X, the US repo will be hopefully fixed next week when I get access to it again
[04:29] <chiques> Audio fixed. It was a connection problem. My audio jack is beginning to be be a little oxidized.
[04:51] <Shadow___X> hi i am having trouple achieving the samba share that i want
[04:51] <Shadow___X> i would like to have a user access a main share but only give them read permission until they reach a directory that is theirs then they can have read write
[04:55] <superm1> so set the samba permissions to read/write, and then set unix permissions to read for everything you want only readable
[04:55] <superm1> Shadow___X, &^
[04:56] <Shadow___X> hmm
[04:56] <Shadow___X> true
[04:58] <Shadow___X> thanks superm1
[04:59] <MythbuntuGuest29> Happy New Year. I have Ubuntu 8.10 running and would like to add mythtv stuff. The link under "Add to Ubuntu" at www.mythbuntu.org doesn't exist. How can I add mythbuntu to my system? Thanks a lot for your help.
[05:01] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest29, visiting http://mythbuntu.org/download/getmythbuntu.php should work for you
[05:01] <superm1> if not, you don't have apturl installed
[05:02] <superm1> you can just go into synaptic, or adept and install mythbuntu-desktop instead too
[05:02] <Shadow___X> superm1: how do i check permisions i know chown changes who owns it
[05:02] <Shadow___X> but i am not the most familiar with the other unix commands
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest29> To be more specific, the link under "Installing" under "Add to Ubuntu" doesn't work. So how can I "add all Mythbuntu roles to an existing Ubuntu box"?
[05:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest29, that link goes to the URL i pointed you to
[05:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest29, so once you install mythbuntu-desktop you will have the mythbuntu control centre available
[05:06] <superm1> Shadow___X, ls -alh will show you all files and permissions with human readable sizes
[05:07] <Shadow___X> should the directories be owned by the samba user for RW
[05:07] <Shadow___X> read write
[05:10] <superm1> Shadow___X, that's up to you.  you can do it by group instead if you want
[05:15] <Shadow___X> so chown -R user folder/
[05:15] <Shadow___X> because i did that but i changed the group i guess
[05:20] <Shadow___X> i just did sudo chmod -R 764 folder/
[05:20] <Shadow___X> and now in thunar i cant open the directory although i am in the right group different user
[05:21] <Shadow___X> any idea superm1
[05:22] <Shadow___X> when i goto properties of the folder in thunar it says the folder permissions are inconsistent you may not be able to work with files in this folder
[05:43] <Shadow___X> hey superm1 i am having an issue with permissions windows side
[05:43] <Shadow___X> i made sure all the permisions or correct in chmod and chown
[05:43] <Shadow___X> reloaded samba
[05:43] <Shadow___X> and restarted it
[05:44] <Shadow___X> but on this windows machine when i right click the folder the read only attribute it highlighted as if something within it is readonly
[05:44] <Shadow___X> no check but still highlighted
[05:45] <Shadow___X> and i cannot make changes to the folder although the user i am using has owner ship over the file
[05:45] <Shadow___X> when i try to rename something or create or delate a file i get the error message that the drive is write protected
[05:45] <Shadow___X> i am going to see if a reboot helps
[05:45] <Shadow___X> brb
[05:56] <Shadow___X> superm1: same thing
[05:56] <Shadow___X> on the windows machine
[08:26] <bmathis> im getting an extremely long shutdown time for mythbuntu.... any suggestions?
[12:29] <ushills> What is the latest version of mythtv supported by mythbuntu and where can I get the latest release, i'm having a few issues and have been advised to update beyond 0.21.
[12:37] <laga> the latest version of mythtv supported by mythbuntu are the almost-weekly builds of the release-0-21-fixes tree
[12:37] <laga> soon, there will be trunk builds
[12:39] <ushills> How can i update to the latest version, i use mythbuntu 8.04 lts at the moment is it worth going to 8.10?
[12:40] <laga> the weekly builds should have the same version for hardy and intrepid. if your 8.04 install is working well, i wouldn't upgrade
[12:40] <ushills> I'm having a few problems with recordings jumping and skipping on mythtv, this usually happens after the backend has been up for a few days and the RAM fills to 98%.  Recording are totally unwatchable, at other times recordings are great. any ideas
[15:31] <superm1> SHADOW__X, then you don't have the appropriate samba write bits set
[17:21] <fuxxy> I'm setting up a dedicated frontend using mythbuntu, I already have a backend on the network. Which mythbuntu cd should I use, Desktop or Alternate?
[17:26] <laga> desktop.
[17:26] <laga> alternate is not supported
[17:27] <tgm4883_laptop> and by not supported, he means it will eat your face off
[17:27] <fuxxy> Understood.
[17:27] <fuxxy> But won't the desktop by default install a backend, too?
[17:27] <laga> you can select that during install
[17:27] <fuxxy> sorry, "by default" I mean "Force you to install"
[17:28] <laga> no
[17:28] <tgm4883_laptop> fuxxy, using the desktop ISO, select an "advanced install"
[17:28] <fuxxy> awesome.
[17:28] <fuxxy> Thanks.
[17:28] <tgm4883_laptop> it's in the installation manual, which is a great thing.  The guy that wrote it was really overachieving when he did it ;)
[17:30] <laga> so i guess you didn't write it?
[17:31] <tgm4883_laptop> I did not ;)
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC, it was some guy that used to go by the name of gardengnome
[17:32] <laga> i didn't write it
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> no?
[17:32] <laga> i don't think so?
[17:33] <tgm4883_laptop> the mythbuntu installation manual?
[17:33] <laga> yes
[17:33] <tgm4883_laptop> was it a virgin birth?
[17:33] <laga> you know, there are other people in the team :)
[17:33] <laga> prolly davemorris
[17:34] <tgm4883_laptop> on the first day, superm1 said "Let there be an installation manual"
[17:34] <tgm4883_laptop> and there was an installation manual
[17:34] <laga> heh
[17:34] <tgm4883_laptop> yea but you are the team lead, so you get to take credit for all the manual stuff
[17:35] <tgm4883_laptop> just like superm1 gets to take credit for all the mythbuntu stuff and foxbuntu gets to take all the credit for slacking off
[17:36] <tgm4883_laptop> you know, if we keep using superm1's name in everyday conversation like this, he will come back to his name highlighted 3500 times but nobody will have actually pinged him
[17:36] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm amused easily ;)
[17:36] <laga> which is actually good
[17:36] <laga> because pings are annoying
[17:37] <laga> ;)
[17:37] <tgm4883_laptop> especially contentless pings ;)
[17:40] <laga> ping tgm4883_laptop
[17:40] <tgm4883_laptop> laga, pong
[17:40] <laga> heh
[17:40] <laga> prolly gonna push some trunk builds tonight
[17:40] <laga> once i get -fixes working
[17:40] <tgm4883_laptop> -fixes is broke?
[17:42] <tgm4883_laptop> do you know when superm1 will be back so he can fix the us repo
[17:42] <superm1> i'm getting back at the start of next week
[17:43] <superm1> hopefully it's something silly with what broke
[17:43] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: just some patches
[17:43] <laga> yeah, no worries
[17:43] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, sounds good
[17:44] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll update the topic when you push tonight
[17:44] <laga> regarding trunk?
[17:44] <tgm4883_laptop> -fixes
[17:45] <tgm4883_laptop> I know people were asking about it for the last week or so and wanted a topic update
[17:45] <laga> yeah
[17:45] <laga> sorry, life's been a bit rough :)
[17:45] <tgm4883_laptop> thats cool, I blame superm1 anyway ;)
[17:48] <fuxxy> superm1 would know what to do
[17:48] <fuxxy> :)
[17:48] <laga> oh, this is the users channel
[17:49] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[17:49] <tgm4883_laptop> we will have to just men in black everyone here and make them forget what they saw
[17:50]  * fuxxy has quit (Connection reset by peer)
[17:50] <laga> heh
[17:50] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[17:51]  * tgm4883_laptop needs a new web host
[17:52] <laga> okay, new mythplugins is pushed, let's hope it'll work this time
[17:52]  * tgm4883_laptop crosses fingers
[17:53] <superm1> laga, maybe we should get someone to set up an sbuild for all to use for these test builds w/ ccache and all
[17:53] <superm1> rather than waiting for PPAs etc
[17:54] <laga> what test builds?
[17:54] <superm1> somewhere to dput, and then ssh and run sbuild
[17:54] <laga> these are not test builds
[17:54] <laga> these are real life builds which fail ;)
[17:54] <superm1> oh
[17:54] <laga> as i said, no worries
[17:54] <laga> i just need to learn to check the patches
[17:55] <superm1> yeah i forget to do that sometimes too, but luckily local builds catch them
[18:19] <Crewsr3_1> I have a fresh install of Mythubuntu 8.10 with a Geforce 7300 GT and I want to hook it up to my SDTV with the s-video out.  I went into the nvidia x server settings and the twin view option is greyed out, I have not been able to find anything in the forms that worked, please help! ;(
[18:36] <troy_s> Crewsr3: Have you put the option into your xorg.conf?
[18:36] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: Your xorg.conf is where you would need to have that option enabled.  Let me snag a link...
[18:36] <Crewsr3> troy_s, whit the move away from xorg.conf I was not sure if that worked anymore
[18:37] <Crewsr3_1> sorry I have two boxes running and two irc's runnning, this is the one on my mythbox
[18:37] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: Well... it's always like law -- lower law cannot overrule higher court law.  In this case, xorg.conf is the Supreme court.
[18:37] <Crewsr3_1> what do I need to change in my xorg
[18:37] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.78/README/chapter-13.html
[18:38] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: That is about the only tried and true surefire method that I know of to make certain Twinvew / dual head will work.
[18:38] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: But feel comfortable before doing it as you may be using nano / vi / emacs from the command line to fix your xorg.
[18:38] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: If you bzork it, you will only have a terminal.
[18:39] <Crewsr3_1> troy_s, let me give it a shot with nano
[18:39] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: With the newer layout however, adding the "Option "TwinView"" might be enough to enable it.
[18:39] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: Make sure you put that in the right stanza.
[18:39] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: If memory serves me correctly, it's in the Device section.
[18:39] <Crewsr3_1> troy_s, stanza?
[18:40] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: Stanza == block of script / options / code
[18:40] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: You MAY be able to use the graphical tweaks if you have that option in there... you might not need to do anything else.
[18:41] <troy_s> dogs call.
[18:42] <Crewsr3_1> troy_s, let me restart x and see if this worked
[18:49] <Crewsr3_1> troy_s, ok, I tried just typing "nvidia-xconfig --twinview" into the cli and then I restarted X.  Well this did not work so I'm looking at xorg.conf and the chapter said to add an Option line in the devices section.  Is this diffrent from the "inputdevice" section?
[18:53] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: I can't honestly remember... there should be plenty of sample xorgs out in Googleville.
[18:54] <Crewsr3_1> thanks for your help, I'm going to restart x again lets see if this does it
[18:54] <troy_s> Crewsr3_1: This is an add on PCI card I take it?
[20:35] <SHADOW__X> hey superm1you around
[20:35] <SHADOW__X> or anyone that can help me figure out my samba permission issue
[21:03] <neoneddy> ANyone here use hte HD Homerun?
[21:18] <rhpot1991_laptop> perhaps
[21:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> got a question?
[21:36] <neoneddy> I added the tuner as an input.. worked great actually in 8.10 .. but after a reboot it shows those channels blacked out
[21:36] <DiscoTech> hey guys. just a quick question. Mythbuntu is basically a distro of Ubuntu with MythTV pre-installed on it?
[21:36] <neoneddy> Yeah
[21:37] <DiscoTech> so i don'tneed the Ubuntu Desktop disc then?
[21:37] <tgm4883_laptop> DiscoTech, correct
[21:37] <DiscoTech> yay. now to find a tuner card with in and out, as well as a IR receiver
[21:38] <neoneddy> no
[21:38] <DiscoTech> no?
[21:38] <DiscoTech> oh, not to me?
[21:39] <DiscoTech> oh, does MythTV connect online to download updated TV guides?
[21:39] <DiscoTech> and if so, does it work for Shaw in Canada?
[21:40] <neoneddy> Yes it does.. use schedules direct I beleive
[21:40] <heyheyhey> hello
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> DiscoTech, $20 US/year
[21:40] <neoneddy> all you need to install is the mythbuntu disc
[21:40] <DiscoTech> what is $20/year?
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> DiscoTech, the guide data
[21:40] <heyheyhey> anyone tell me what i did wrong i hooked up mythtv to a hdtv with r/b/g and it now all blue
[21:40] <neoneddy> for the scheduling data
[21:41] <DiscoTech> wow. that kinda sucks
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> DiscoTech, IMO, not so much
[21:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> its well worth it
[21:41] <neoneddy> @heyheyhey, what card output rgb compoennt?
[21:41] <heyheyhey> yeah
[21:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> they support us very very well
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> it's pretty good data, although directv isn't so great to have with it
[21:41] <neoneddy> I agree SD does a great job
[21:41] <heyheyhey> i have nvidia 6300gs
[21:42] <SHADOW__X> DiscoTech what else do you have to pay for
[21:42] <SHADOW__X> schedule direct is a great service
[21:42] <neoneddy> @heyheyhey , I just used my VGA cable, works great
[21:42] <heyheyhey> well my 42 inch don't have vga
[21:42] <heyheyhey> it has componet
[21:42] <SHADOW__X> dvi to hdmi?
[21:42] <neoneddy> HDMI?
[21:42] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what she said
[21:42] <heyheyhey> i have componet
[21:43] <DiscoTech> credit card? or do they do paypal?
[21:43] <neoneddy> I'd say find a DVI to HDMI adapter
[21:43] <heyheyhey> what for neoneddy
[21:44] <neoneddy> so you can connect the mythtv box to the hdtv via hdmi
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC, paypal
[21:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> heyheyhey: sure you didn't mix the wires up?
[21:44] <heyheyhey> i said only have componet
[21:44] <heyheyhey> yes
[21:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> also did you tell xorg that its using component?
[21:44] <heyheyhey> red goes to red
[21:45] <heyheyhey> that might be a problem
[21:45] <heyheyhey> whatz max res i can use
[21:45] <heyheyhey> since my tv supports 1080i
[21:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> should be able to hit 1080 I think
[21:46] <neoneddy> What HDTV only has component?
[21:46] <neoneddy> @disco http://tinyurl.com/9brq43
[21:46] <heyheyhey> samsung hcm4215w
[21:47] <heyheyhey> when it boots it perfect color
[21:47] <heyheyhey> soon as it hits nvidia logo bam blue
[21:47] <neoneddy> yeah.. it's the drivers then
[21:48] <heyheyhey> i am using evny drivers
[21:48] <neoneddy> did you by chance install it with a vga monitor or something?
[21:48] <heyheyhey> yes vga
[21:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> IIRC envy == evil
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> heyheyhey: did you ever figure out your comcast issue?
[21:49] <heyheyhey> nope
[21:49] <heyheyhey> went back to sat
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> what was the issue?
[21:49] <neoneddy> heyheyhey ssh into the box and reconfigure the x settings.. or remove them and let mythbuntu rebuild them
[21:50] <neoneddy> I had to do that when I went from s-video to vga .. booted fine in vga then no signal from vga or DVI when in X
[21:50] <DiscoTech> i guess $20/year isn't bad. anyone have any luck doing s-video on ubuntu?
[21:50] <heyheyhey> sshed in it says no nvidia found
[21:50] <neoneddy> yup, works fine
[21:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> I used to have  a working component xorg
[21:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> looks like its long gone now
[21:50] <heyheyhey> anyone have one
[21:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> DiscoTech: should work fairly well
[21:51] <neoneddy> heyheyhey if you ahve the time try booting the install disc from component, if it works try doing an install with it and it may work fine...  but I'm a n00b
[21:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> heyheyhey: try adding these to your xorg:
[21:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> Option          "TVOutFormat" "COMPONENT"
[21:51] <heyheyhey> not gona chance it
[21:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> Option          "TVStandard" "HD1080i
[21:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> Option          "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
[21:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> under the Section "device"
[21:52] <heyheyhey> cool i try that
[21:52] <DiscoTech> ok, so i guess i just need a tuner card with tv-in. if s-video will work for me
[21:53] <neoneddy> DiscoTech : I got a dual tuner card cheap.. a Hapanauge 350  Ithink ...
[21:53] <neoneddy> it wil ldo the s-video out as well  Ithink
[21:53] <tgm4883_laptop> the 350 isn't a dual tuner
[21:53] <tgm4883_laptop> the 500 is, but it doesn't do video out
[21:54] <neoneddy> 650 then?
[21:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> 350 output is overrated IMO
[21:54] <DiscoTech> i can't get the 350 from my supplier anymore
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> if there is a 650, its a digital tuner and doesn't do video out either
[21:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> DiscoTech: most of the happauge analog tuners are hard to find now
[21:55] <neoneddy> hmm... I forget what one I have. but it's a hanpanauge and has dual analog tuners
[21:55] <DiscoTech> i can do a 500. but it's like $200
[21:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> heyheyhey: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ComponentOut
[21:57] <DiscoTech> they've got a 150
[22:04] <DiscoTech> hey would a USB based tv tuner work just as well as an internal one with myth tv?
[22:09] <neoneddy> I have no experience.. but I don't see why not
[22:09] <neoneddy> I know the big thing is hardware mpeg encoding
[22:14] <DiscoTech> would anyone know where i would get drivers for an ASUS My Cinema-P7131?
[23:03] <glitch> Hey, I just did a fresh install of mythbuntu 8.10 and when i run mythtv-setup I get the message that no uPnP backends are found, and then it won't login to the mysql server.  do I have to create a mysql user for mythtv to use?
[23:33] <neoneddy> Anyone had any experience with the HD homerun and the tuner not showing up on reboot of mythtv
[23:34] <laga> i think that's a race condition between the backend and the network coming up too early
[23:34] <laga> i think there are forum reports..
[23:35] <laga> but AFAIR, that particular issue has been fixed


[00:14] <sergiusens> elopio the tests I will work on now, not that the previous test was covering much either :-P
[00:30] <zyga> wililupy: catch me tomororw please
[00:30] <zyga> mhall119: cool!
[00:32] <wililupy> np zyga. Thank you.
[03:31] <ePierre> Hi!
[03:31] <ePierre> I'm having troubles with a snap I installed and I want to remove.
[03:31] <ePierre> (I'm on Xenial)
[03:32] <ePierre> So I installed the Telegram snap by running "sudo snap install telegram-sergiusens"
[03:32] <ePierre> And then after using it a little I decided I wanted to remove it
[03:32] <ePierre> so I ran
[03:32] <ePierre> sudo snap remove telegram-sergiusens
[03:33] <ePierre> but then it complained about some stuff, and now I'm in limbo: the Telegram app is not available anymore, but I keep receiving notifications, and it still appears when doing `snap list`
[03:33] <ePierre> if I try to remove it again it says
[03:33] <ePierre> error: cannot remove "telegram-sergiusens": snap "telegram-sergiusens" has changes in progress
[03:34] <ePierre> and in systemctl, I see this error: "Failed unmounting Squashfs mount unit for telegram-sergiusens."
[03:34] <ePierre> what can I do?
[05:19] <olympionex> I'm trying to build a snap for 16.04 desktop that contains a driver library for a 3d camera.  Typically this library installs some udev rules for usb devices connected to the system.  Is there anyway to achieve the equivalent for my snap?
[07:11] <mvo> jdstrand, tyhicks if you could do a review of https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snap-run/pull/3/files that would be much appreciated
[07:13] <mvo> jdstrand, tyhicks and do you happen to have any idea about the apparmor env scrubbing?
[07:59] <pmp> ysionneau: regarding your ptmx-problem, could it be apparmor-profile-name problem?
[08:02] <pmp> ysionneau: I found this commit which has been integrated into 3.12: https://goo.gl/xcvOmU
[08:02] <pmp> ysionneau: in it they are doing profile-name mangling - slashes become dots
[08:03] <pmp> ysionneau: maybe it is not a mount-problem but a profile-name-problem
[08:04] <pmp> ogra_`: ayt?
[08:30] <ogra_`> pmp, hey
[08:32] <ysionneau> pmp: hmmmmm maybe, I'm not sure about this
[08:33] <pmp> ogra_`: hi, I think you are the one building the kernel snaps for rpi2?
[08:34] <ogra_`> yeah, note that i use the debs from the archive though, if you want the contents of the deb changed ppisati is your man
[08:34] <ogra_`> (i.e. actual kernel changes)
[08:35] <ogra_`> (deb's i shoudl say, it is more than one :) )
[08:35] <pmp> ogra_`: so if I need the .config and the snapcraft.yaml/snap.yaml ppisati is my man, as you say ;-) ?
[08:36] <ogra_`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16630580/ funnily i just pasted a snippet from the build script yesterday ...
[08:36] <ogra_`> this is how we assemble the snap.yaml
[08:37] <ogra_`> if you grab the xenial-preinstalled-core-armhf.raspi2.kernel.snap from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/xenial/daily-preinstalled/current/ you can use unsquashfs to extract the file to see the result
[08:38] <pmp> ogra_`: I build my kernel locally, I could just install it so that the snap.yaml will find all the bits and pieces?
[08:38] <ogra_`> for building locally i'd rather recommend using snapcraft
[08:39] <ogra_`> it has a kernel plugin that should do everything you need
[08:39] <pmp> yes, I saw the sergiusens article
[08:39] <pmp> then I only need a .config-file
[08:40] <pmp> bcm2709_defconfig does not activate apparmor - it seems
[08:41] <pmp> ogra_`: is xenial-preinstalled-core-armhf.raspi2.kernel.snap the snap which is downloaded by u-d-f?
[08:41] <ogra_`> the config is generated from different snippets at build time
[08:42] <pmp> yes, but on a standard kernel build the .config is stored along with the kernel-image - that would be sufficient
[08:42] <ogra_`> you can grab  https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-security-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9738878/+files/linux-image-4.4.0-1010-raspi2_4.4.0-1010.13_armhf.deb (the last kernel in xenial as https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi2 shows)
[08:43] <ogra_`> in there you find a /boot/config-$version usually
[08:43] <ogra_`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16652276/
[08:43] <ogra_`> (i had it locally :) )
[08:44] <pmp> yes, thanks for all these pointers - quite hard to find my way through this jungle
[08:44] <ogra_`> yeah
[08:44] <ogra_`> we once had /proc/config.gz enabled in the arm kernels ... but somehow that got dropped
[08:45] <ogra_`> and the kernel snap doesnt allow copying the config into /boot
[08:46] <ogra_`> so it is kind of hard to get the default config from the official kernels ... we'll fix that while re-working the kernel snap :)
[08:47] <ogra_`> i also know that there is some work on a script going on that snapcraft should ship .... to parse the config and require all needed defaults
[08:47] <ogra_`> (but i think thats still in its early stages)
[08:49] <pmp> ogra_`: fyi, I need to update my kernel because of IIO-drivers only present in 4.6.0
[08:50] <ogra_`> pmp, hmm, you shoudl perhaps ask ppisati, he might be having a 4.6 work-branch somewhere already
[08:50] <pmp> ogra_`: my goal is to see what's missing in the standard snappy-interface to make it work
[08:50] <pmp> ogra_`: what timezone is ppisati?
[08:50] <ogra_`> europe
[08:53] <pmp> ysionneau: the problem is definitely in the kernel - this is the only difference between raspi2 and your device
[08:53] <pmp> ysionneau: our device ;-)
[08:54] <pmp> ysionneau: when you look at the code of apparmor in 3.10 you'll see a function adding slashes to paths-strings - maybe it is that.
[08:54] <ysionneau> ok let's try the patch you pasted :)
[08:55] <pmp> ysionneau: not sure it applies
[08:57] <zyga> o/
[08:58] <pmp> ysionneau: maybe try updating to 3.18 as a kind of brutal bisect for this issue - if you can
[09:00] <ysionneau> oh btw it seems we got an update we now have 3.10.96 kernel
[09:01] <pmp> ysionneau: That's what I saw yesterday
[10:00] <dholbach> salut didrocks - can you merge https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy-dev-website/pull/3?
[11:07] <mvo> jdstrand, tyhicks: nevermind, I found #1584069 so my questions about apparmor and AT_SECURE are answered
[11:29] <didrocks> dholbach: I didn't do it right away because of the "Looks good, just have a question
[11:29] <didrocks> "
[11:29] <dholbach> oh
[11:29] <didrocks> but it seems it's fixed now
[11:29] <didrocks> merging :)
[11:29] <dholbach> that was something... yes, it's fixed
[11:29] <dholbach> thanks!
[11:29] <didrocks> (merged)
[12:37] <jdstrand> sergiusens: we have 4 different mksquashfs bugs for resquash test. I've disabled the test until I have time to get back to it
[12:52] <noizer> Hi
[12:52] <noizer> stupid question where can I find the latest image of snappy
[12:53] <noizer> I want to try my snap on a clean new image
[12:58] <kyrofa> noizer, not a stupid question-- we're in a bit of a weird spot where we don't actually have images for snappy 16 right now (we will soon). You know you can use them on the desktop (or server), right?
[12:58] <noizer> kyrofa yes I know that but its for my raspberry pi 2
[12:58] <ogra_> you can still use ubuntu-device-flash from mvo's all-snaps dir
[12:59] <noizer> kyrofa: a bit ago i downloaded a snappy 16 image
[12:59] <ogra_> note that you will likley have to re-flash once we switched to new kernel and gadget definitions though
[13:01] <noizer> I know but is there a link where I can download the image ogra_
[13:01] <jdstrand> mvo: hey, I had a PR against ubuntu-core. do I need to re-request it against snapcore or is some other magic happening?
[13:01] <ogra_> didnt change sice i last gave it to you ;)
[13:01] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/
[13:02] <ogra_> but really, better grab ubuntu-device-flash and roll an image yourself ... the ready-made ones are likely outdated
[13:02] <mvo> jdstrand: yeah @zyga has the details
[13:05] <sergiusens> good morning!
[13:05] <sergiusens> kyrofa how did the python3 plugin branch look like? (tests aside
[13:06] <kyrofa> sergiusens, hey there! I think it looks pretty good-- I need to look it over a little more carefully
[13:07] <sergiusens> kyrofa yeah. It is though a lot better than what was there before
[13:08] <noizer> ogra_:  Ok is that very difficult?
[13:12] <ogra_> noizer, sudo ./ubuntu-device-flash core 16 --channel edge --os ubuntu-core --kernel canonical-pi2-linux --gadget canonical-pi2 -o my-shiny-image.img
[13:12] <noizer> okay thx xD
[13:18] <noizer> ogra_: pfff systemctl not found :s
[13:19] <ogra_> ?
[13:20] <noizer> need '/bin/systemctl to work
[13:20] <noizer> thats the error :s
[13:21] <ogra_> not sure what you mean
[13:21] <noizer> when I'm running you command i got that
[13:21] <noizer> thats on my virtual machine ubuntu
[13:24] <ogra_> noizer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16654988/
[13:24] <ogra_> well, no idea what that is then
[13:24] <josepht> what is the proper plug for creating local sockets?  Is running the snap command as root via sudo going to cause a problem?
[13:25] <sergiusens> Chipaca` mind reviewing https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1579931 ?
[13:25] <sergiusens> err
[13:25] <sergiusens> Chipaca` https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/510 this
[13:28] <noizer> ogra_: will try it on other system
[13:28] <ogra_> well, worst case just pull a pre-built one ...
[13:28] <kyrofa> josepht, no, running snap as sudo should be fine
[13:29] <kyrofa> josepht, without testing, you probably need network-bind
[13:30] <jdstrand> zyga: hi! mvo said there is some procedure to follow for moving existing PRs against ubuntu-core to snapcore?
[13:30] <noizer> ogra_: On what system are you trying to make it?
[13:30] <ogra_> thats a standard xenial install
[13:31] <noizer> but I try to build it on a ubuntu ( not snappy OS )
[13:31] <Chipaca`> sergiusens: hi
[13:37] <noizer> ogra_: on my snappy of my raspberry pi 2 i got a syntax error :s
[13:37] <ogra_> for what ?
[13:40] <noizer> ./ubuntu-device-flash.1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ogra_
[13:40] <ogra_> dont run it on snappy :)
[13:40] <ogra_> you need a 15.10 (or newer) desktop or server install
[13:41] <noizer> ok but on my ubuntu desktop i got the /bin/systemctl that he doesn't find how can I install it?
[13:42] <noizer> owkey now i got 14.04 LTS
[13:48] <ypwong> beuno,  hi, my upload to the store is rejected, I wonder if this is actually a bug in the store? I have the details in https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1584346
[13:48] <zyga> jdstrand: hey
[13:48] <zyga> jdstrand: well it involves git init
[13:48] <zyga> jdstrand: bzr fast-export --quiet --plain --git-branch snap-run . | git fast-import --quiet
[13:48] <zyga> jdstrand: (with some unpackaged code, last time I checked)
[13:49] <jdstrand> zyga: I wasn't talking about snap-run (but thanks!), I was talking about my gsettings PR
[13:49] <zyga> jdstrand: followed by rabase -i origin/master (the origin from github) to remove the patches that are upstream but were converted locally anyway
[13:49] <zyga> jdstrand: oh
[13:49]  * zyga re-reads
[13:49] <zyga> jdstrand: hmm, didn't those move automatically?
[13:49] <zyga> jdstrand: if no then I don't know anything about that
[13:49] <jdstrand> zyga: I don't know-- were the supposed to? if so, I'll just poke around
[13:50] <zyga> jdstrand: did yours move?
[13:50] <zyga> jdstrand: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/1160
[13:50] <zyga> jdstrand: this moved for me
[13:50] <zyga> jdstrand: just edit your .git/config
[13:50] <zyga> jdstrand: sed the repo name
[13:50] <zyga> jdstrand: and you're good
[13:50] <jdstrand> it looks like it did
[13:50] <jdstrand> ok, that's fine. thanks!
[13:53] <jdstrand> mvo: can you remind how, when and where to use Closes: LP:NNNNNN. I wrote it down but I think I got it wrong based on PR changes from others
[13:53] <jdstrand> I think an SRU comment on one of my bugs might have been because I did it wrong
[13:54] <josepht> kyrofa: I've got both 'network' and 'network-bind'.  Specifically I'm referring to the nmap snap in the store
[13:55] <kyrofa> jdstrand, gbp dch uses `LP: #<bug>` by default
[13:55] <beuno> jdstrand, hi!  can you queue this up?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1584346
[13:56] <kyrofa> Not sure what incantation mvo is using though
[13:56] <beuno> jdstrand, looking at it, that is  :)
[13:56] <jdstrand> beuno: that's a dupe of another bug
[13:57] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I'm still not clear on what to do on that ^ (libmvec.so)
[13:58] <sergiusens> jdstrand oh, it is a snapcraft bug from what I believe. In any case, I don't think it to be bad to allow those symlinks, they just point to libc versioned libs
[13:58] <sergiusens> and libc6 we support
[13:59] <jdstrand> sergiusens: you closed the review tools task on the python one, but that one may not be python...
[13:59] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ok, that is what I wanted to know. thanks!
[14:09] <jdstrand> roadmr (cc beuno): can you sync r666 for bug 1584346?
[14:09] <roadmr> jdstrand: sure thing
[14:10] <jdstrand> roadmr: thanks. curious, did the previously requested sync make it past staging?
[14:10] <roadmr> jdstrand: nope, I was planning on doing a deploy starting this week but I was off yesterday
[14:10] <jdstrand> Ok, thanks
[14:11] <roadmr> jdstrand: wait, r666? are you sure? 😈
[14:11] <jdstrand> hehe, I know, right?
[14:12] <roadmr> hehe yes :) no prob though
[14:15] <sergiusens> kyrofa btw, have you seen my comment here https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/502
[14:15] <sergiusens> ?
[14:16] <sergiusens> kyrofa you also have conflicts there ;-)
[14:17] <kyrofa> sergiusens, yeah I did, and it got me thinking. Since it's just copied through I don't actually care how it's parsed, but I care how it's validated, so now I'm thinking I'll make it a custom type and write a custom validator for it
[14:17] <kyrofa> Because yeah, this whole numeric/string thing is killing me
[14:17] <kyrofa> sergiusens, how do you feel about that solution?
[14:18] <sergiusens> kyrofa custom validator using the format checker? that seems fine
[14:19] <kyrofa> sergiusens, alright. Then we don't need to care about how yaml wants to parse it
[14:25] <mvo> jdstrand: the format for the changelog got discussed with niemeyer  a while ago, I wrote a custom snappy-dch to parse this stuff
[14:25] <kyrofa> mvo, have you guys considered writing a CONTRIBUTING.md covering that stuff?
[14:26] <mvo> kyrofa: I think we have a file like this, I don't think it has this in it though, the idea is really good
[14:26] <kyrofa> mvo, yeah you have one, but it doesn't discuss this stuff
[14:26] <jdstrand> mvo: yeah, I recall you telling me that and what to do, but I seem to have gotten it wrong. if I want snappy-dch to correctly parse for autoclosing, what do I need to do and where?
[14:27] <jdstrand> I'll take better notes this time
[14:28] <mvo> jdstrand: let me try to find the original conversation
[14:29] <sergiusens> zyga in order for you to be a more relaxed person, I will be snatching this from you https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1581166
[14:41] <zyga> sergiusens: thank you :)
[15:29] <sergiusens> kyrofa so is that epoch stuff a future thing or are you going to update the branch?
[15:30] <kyrofa> sergiusens, just about done
[15:46] <seb128> qengho, hey there, you fontconfig issue ... is it https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1576303 ?
[16:15] <kyrofa> Sorry sergiusens, epoch stuff is updated
[16:15] <kyrofa> sergiusens, jsonschema updates always take me a little while :P
[16:16] <sergiusens> kyrofa hope it doesn't conflict with https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/514
[16:17] <jdstrand> zyga: hey, so what is the plan for snap-run and series 16? I've got my seccomp arg filtering branch and need to know if I need to do it against both ubuntu-core/snap-run (shouldn't this be snapcore/snap-run?) and something else for xenial or just ubuntu-core/snap-run
[16:17] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I don't think it will, but it'll be easy to resolve if it does
[16:19] <jdstrand> mvo: perhaps you know? ^
[16:20] <sergiusens> kyrofa reviewed, looks good, I wonder why the 1.0 thing was tested before though
[16:23] <kyrofa> sergiusens, it probably shouldn't have. I think I was experimenting with how the multipleOf thing worked and never took it out
[16:24] <josepht> kyrofa: it looks like I needed 'network-control' as well
[16:24] <kyrofa> josepht, that's odd... you must be doing something other than just sockets
[16:25] <sergiusens> kyrofa btw, mind taking a look at 514?
[16:25] <kyrofa> sergiusens, but anyway, do you like that better than the previous validations?
[16:25] <kyrofa> sergiusens, yeah I'm actually looking at it now
[16:25] <sergiusens> kyrofa yes, this is much better
[16:25] <sergiusens> simpler
[16:26] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I finally feel like I've figured jsonschema out a little more
[16:26] <kyrofa> My previous attempts were working against it a bit
[16:53] <sergiusens> kyrofa yeah, this schema thing is kind of strange
[16:53] <sergiusens> kyrofa it would be nicer to get better raw data to construct nicer error messages
[16:53] <sergiusens> kyrofa btw, does this look weird to you https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/505 ?
[16:54] <kyrofa> sergiusens, we can do that with more formats over time if you like that approach
[16:54] <kyrofa> Oh right, I never actually commented on that one huh
[16:54] <kyrofa> sergiusens, wait... yeah
[16:54] <kyrofa> sergiusens, what happened here?
[16:55] <kyrofa> sergiusens, oh, old diff?
[16:55] <kyrofa> sergiusens, it just needs to be merged with master I think
[16:55] <sergiusens> kyrofa it looks like not only an old diff, but the only diff is about strict
[16:56] <sergiusens> going to try and ping elopio and see if he can click on "update branch"
[16:56] <kyrofa> Yeah it's due to my changing that commit
[16:57] <sergiusens> kyrofa darn, it has only been 1 hour since he said 2 hours :-)
[16:57] <kyrofa> Hahaha
[16:57] <sergiusens> kyrofa you should re create the PR ;-)
[16:58] <kyrofa> sergiusens, sure thing ;)
[17:07] <kyrofa> sergiusens, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/515
[17:50] <zyga> jdstrand: I'm not sure, I think we want to use it as soon as it is viable
[17:51] <zyga> jdstrand: we need the migration command on snapd
[17:51] <zyga> jdstrand: though we can actually land the package as-is as it has backwards compatible wrapper (ubuntu-core-launcher) that calls snap-run
[17:51] <zyga> jdstrand: (though it may not be possible to do that soon if we remove the binary command as an argument)
[17:55] <zyga> jdstrand: I would rather transition everything ASAP
[17:56] <jdstrand> that's fine
[17:56] <jdstrand> that makes it easier on me
[17:56] <jdstrand> I just have to do the one PR then
[17:56] <jdstrand> note, tyhicks said he'd do the arg filtering review this week
[17:57] <jdstrand> ah geez
[17:57] <jdstrand> it is now s/snapcore/CanonicalLtd/ ?
[17:57] <jdstrand> zyga: ^ ?
[17:59] <jdstrand> ok, apparently not yet
[18:00]  * jdstrand continues with ubuntu-core/snap-run
[18:03] <zyga> jdstrand: it will be soon
[18:03] <zyga> jdstrand: I cannot change htat
[18:11] <sergiusens> jdstrand is the fix for chromium content provider in -proposed already? or can you ping me when it is? Out of curiousity was it solved with a mount dance or with interface changes?
[18:15] <sergiusens> Saviq btw, did you snap refresh telegram-sergiusens already?
[18:16] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I mentioned the other day there are 4 things to address it. none have landed. one depends on zyga (shm preload), the seccomp arg filtering branch to land (in progress, hopefully will land this week), then seccomp arg filtering profile updates (dependent on other landing) and then another denial
[18:16] <Saviq> sergiusens, did not
[18:16] <jdstrand> I think that last one is non-fatal, but I'll be looking at that today
[18:17] <Saviq> sergiusens, thanks :)
[18:22] <sergiusens> jdstrand so 4 things for this and 4 for squashfs :-P
[18:24] <jdstrand> sergiusens: there is no shortage of things to do
[18:24] <jdstrand> I suspect one of those 4 things for squashfs is a dupe, but I need the snap to be sure
[18:25] <jdstrand> but as mentioned, the squashfs issue will not be painful for people-- the test is being disabled
[18:26] <sergiusens> jdstrand I can get you the yaml used to generate it
[18:28] <sergiusens> jdstrand use this branch of snapcraft https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/510 with http://paste.ubuntu.com/16644344/
[18:28] <sergiusens> or grab my deb from people.canonical.com:/home/sergiusens/snapcraft_2.8.8_all.deb
[18:31] <netphreak> Hi, guys ;)
[18:32] <sergiusens> jdstrand and here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1579931/comments/2
[18:32] <sergiusens> netphreak hey
[18:42] <netphreak> has classic shell returned to snappy?
[18:48] <kyrofa> netphreak, not yet, but we're working on it
[18:49] <netphreak> Any indication on, when?
[18:50] <kyrofa> netphreak, I'm not sure, maybe ogra_ knows
[18:51] <ogra_> i want to have the build side ready by end of this week
[18:51] <ogra_> then there are some bits on the snappy side needed i think
[18:52] <netphreak> ok cool.
[18:52] <netphreak> Are there any release dates for snappy?
[19:16] <sergiusens> he left, but the answer was, it is already released ;-)
[19:20] <jdstrand> sergiusens: thanks
[19:20] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I also added you to the card tracking the electron stuff


[09:39] <ogra> thanks lotuspsychje 🙂
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> welcome to the team :p
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> ogra: if you not already found this, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/creating-focus-in-the-ubuntu-community-your-help-needed/29509
[13:11] <madhens> Morning all :)
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> morning madhens o/
[13:15] <madhens> I'm out visiting my family after working our booth at SCaLE so it's 6:15 in the morning here! So early!
[13:16] <Fallen> My brain does not function very well at that time. So glad you got to take your dad along!
[13:17] <Fallen> Hey folks. The community team at Canonical is going to experiment with using this IRC channel for their day to day conversations. Please welcome Mauro Gaspari Britt and madhens from my team. This will give you a little more insight into what we are working on.
[13:17] <Fallen> You are encouraged to chime in if you have a great idea that you think might complement what we are doing, though please be mindful that at times we may need to focus on moving forward. After a while we'll reflect on how things are going and I may ask some of you for feedback as well!
[13:18] <ilvipero> madhens: definitely too early! :)
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> nice Fallen! and welcome to all, this channel seems to gather up pretty nice already
[13:24] <madhens> Fallen I am more of a morning person than I give myself credit for! And OMG, it was so great to bring my dad along.  Most sustainable way to convert a family member, taking him to a conference! :-)
[13:25] <ilvipero> madhens: I saw your pictures from SCaLE. Was it Nathan providing emergency (orange) lighting? 😄
[13:27] <Fallen> FYI all, we are meeting with the launchpad team in a few minutes to learn more about their plans and talk to them about a few potential community initiatives that will require launchpad changes.
[13:28] <Fallen> I'm also working on a project brief to set up a documentation frontend for the community documentation on discourse.ubuntu.com, with the goal of moving wiki docs there over time.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> welcome teward
[14:18] <madhens> ilvipero Yes it was!
[14:46] <Fallen> Launchpad meeting went well, though larger initiatives won't be a thing this year given team capacity. We're working to see if we can get a few smaller issues in. One of the topics was around translations, see here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/reconcidering-workflows/4656/73?u=kewisch
[15:02] <Fallen> Mauro Gaspari: we have an ubuntu summit planning meeting with Claire and Sarah for the 11th, it was meant to be the initial kick-off. Do we still need that meeting given the conversations you've had already?
[15:06] <teward> *sips coffee* (I was invited to join here :P)
[15:07]  * Fallen waves to teward, thanks for following my call :-)
[15:07] <teward> Fallen: ohai.  send coffee.  :P
[15:14]  * Fallen sends over a freshly brewed coffee for support
[15:23] <jose> i really need to stop drinking monster instead of coffee
 "Mauro Gaspari: we have an ubuntu..." <- I have another one with Claire and Sarah tomorrow, trying to move things forward faster. But I will take all the time they can give me so I can leave it there. We have a lot of work to do to organize the logistics.
[15:43] <ilvipero> I will ask Claire and Sarah tomorrow and follow up with you Fallen
[15:59] <arraybolt3[m]> jose: I think anything called Monster is probably not something you should drink. :)
[16:00] <jose> say hi to claire for me
[16:00] <jose> hey, it's mango flavored, it's delicioso
[16:16] <Fallen> Thanks Mauro Gaspari !


[14:44] <CarlFK> alt installer runs my late.sh script which has:  sed -i          -e '/^\[daemon\]$/aAutomaticLoginEnable=true'          -e '/^\[daemon\]$/aAutomaticLogin=$NUSER'        $TARGET/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[14:44] <CarlFK> NUSER is set to the username.  that used to work, but now I get:
[14:44] <CarlFK> AutomaticLogin=$NUSER
[14:45] <CarlFK> im guessing I did something, cuz I can't quite believe the script syntax? would have changed


[01:07] <NCMATTOS> teste
[01:39] <SharingCon> lol, didnt think someone would register the name NeedHelp. -- haha.. Anyone have experience sharing internet connection from Linux to a windows pc?
[02:00] <Asdurbal> s
[02:00] <xixor> s
[03:11] <xixor> uptime 4 days, 5 hours!!! almost a 2012 record!
[08:43] <Pamparimpim> hello i have some problems with partition when im installing kubuntu 12.10 i just forget how to do few things and i need a little recall , problem is very basic so i dont want to spam here if someone could help me on priv i'd be very thankful
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:54] <BluesKaj> check
[14:10] <simplew> yofel_: could you package an updated skanlite, version 0.9 is already out
[14:11] <yofel_> simplew: added to team todo list, that's all I can do for now
[14:12] <simplew> yofel_: thanks :)
[14:18] <cjae> what does dolphin use for zeroconfig
[14:18] <cjae> it need to know what it uses to authenticate to my smb share
[14:22] <BluesKaj> cjae, don't think zeroconf is usewd by smb afaik
[14:22] <cjae> so it just uses smb.conf
[14:23] <cjae> somehow dolphin magically accesses my NAS server but I cant seem to login via cli
[14:24] <BluesKaj> smb prortocol yes , fooling smb.conf can be dangerous , but there are tutorials , if you must
[14:25] <cjae> BluesKaj: yes I ve been up and down it
[14:27] <BluesKaj> what's your issue , cjae ?
[14:28] <cjae> sudo mount -t cifs //xxx.xxx.xxx/mydamnshare /mnt/mynas -o username=user
[14:29] <cjae> cant get my smb share to mount but I cant clearly see access and write to it through dolphin
[14:30] <cjae> BluesKaj: do you have experience with this ?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> cjae, have you tried setting the NAS to mount in fstab by using the UUID from blkid ?
[14:31] <cjae> how would I get block id
[14:32] <cjae> I havent tried setting it in fstab yet either, figured I should be able to mount it first then get the info from mtab BluesKaj
[14:33] <cjae> no sure if the NAS has uuids (its freebsd), probably does so easily keep track of drives and such BluesKaj
[14:34] <BluesKaj> cjae, is this a pc NAS setup or a purchased NAS ?
[14:34] <cjae> BluesKaj: pc NAS
[14:35] <BluesKaj> FreeNAS?
[14:35] <cjae> BluesKaj: yep well nas4free without zfs
[14:36] <cjae> ufs
[14:36] <BluesKaj> right
[14:36] <cjae> I have NFS setup
[14:37] <BluesKaj> my other linux desktop mobo died right after I setup freenas on it ...was strange ..hope it was coincidence and not something I did :)
[14:37] <cjae> I can see the damn share smb(sorry ive been on this awhile) via dolphin but cant mount it
[14:38] <cjae> BluesKaj: was hpoing to look in zeroconf to see what it uses
[14:38] <cjae> thats suck about the mobo
[14:39] <BluesKaj> < never used zeroconf
[14:39] <cjae> you just click networks and samba share and poof there it is
[14:40] <BluesKaj> yeah , but how do you set it up
[14:40] <cjae> I want transfer via cli though since writes though dolphin are rough
[14:40] <BluesKaj> I'v e glowing reports about using zeroconf , but haven't found a guide to set it up
[14:41] <BluesKaj> seen
[14:41] <cjae> ahh I see what   you mean
[14:43] <Fr3ndlyfir3> hi every one
[14:44] <Smurphy> Yo
[15:18] <thelionroars> any grub2 experts around? I just updated to 12.10 but my install is still using the 3.2 kernel. I installed a grub2 theme and it seems to be preventing grub from updating properly
[15:49] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to get Kate to reclaim all text files it should handle without doing it one by one?
[16:46] <Rosbuntu> i need a coder who can help me my wimax dongle work in kubuntu
[16:58] <anoneemouse> how do i find files outside of the indexes in dolphin?
[17:14] <Tygart> anoneemouse: when you open your dolphin on the left there are folders click the one that says "root" it should be colored Red
[17:15] <anoneemouse> @tygart I found it. I just think its a little counter-intuitive when everywhere does not literally mean everywhere
[17:15] <anoneemouse> that was throwing me off
[17:15] <Tygart> anoneemouse: everywere?
[17:16] <Tygart> I logged in late I only see one of your messages
[17:16] <anoneemouse> yeah. it says [From here] [Everywhere] in the search bar
[17:16] <Tygart> oh
[17:16] <anoneemouse> everywhere seems to mean everything that is indexed
[17:17] <Tygart> so you must  have nepomuk right?
[17:22] <vbgunz> the kate bug that caused it to no longer handle text files, is there a workaround to get it to automatically reclaim opening all the text files its supposed to open?
[17:34] <Katbuntu> Hi.
[17:40] <Snowhog> I am one of five administrators for www.kubuntuforums.net. Earlier this month we began protecting KFN with ZB Block. While incredibly effective at stopping spammers 'in their tracks', it is also impacting some of our older members from even reaching our site. If you are affected, my apologies. It is easily fixable. Just contact me directly at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or the adminsitrators group at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Protecting
[17:40] <Snowhog>  a forum against spam and spammers is a never ending chore, and ZB Block is the best defensive tool added to our arsenal so far.
[17:40] <FloodBotK1> Snowhog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <IdleOne> Snowhog: there was a user here yesterday asking about being unbanned from the forums forum name: molostoff
[17:47] <Rosbuntu> my kubuntu doing a problem
[17:48] <Rosbuntu> it doesnt take passowd in password boxes after logging on in kubuntu.. only terminal takes password
[17:57] <Snowhog> IdleOne: Thank you. Yes, molostoff is a registered member of KFN. I'll contact him.
[17:57] <IdleOne> Snowhog: Welcome.
[17:58] <Snowhog> IdleOne: The 'joys' of administering a forum are never ending! :)
[20:14] <Brustofski-Fan> For ati is there anything newer then 12.9 beta in the repo?
[20:20] <Snowhog> tsimpson_: Common question, but when does ones cloak get applied?
[20:21] <tsimpson_> Snowhog: if you're an ubuntu member you just ask the IRC Council for a cloak in #ubuntu-irc and post your LP profile page
[20:21] <Pici> If not, ask in #freenode for an unaffiliated cloak.
[20:22] <Snowhog> tsimpson_: I purchased this morning - Active/Annual. I received the acknowledged payment confirmation.
[20:22] <Brustofski-Fan> is there an ATI catalyst driver newer then 9.12 beta in the repo
[20:22] <tsimpson_> Snowhog: you mean the PDPC thing, then you'll have to ask in #freenode about that
[20:23] <Snowhog> Ah. Thank you.
[20:25] <TheLordOfTime> Snowhog, if you got a PDPC cloak, wait up to two weeks, since they arent instantly applied, since they have to be processed via the PDPC first, before freenode staffers can see whether you actually donated (not many have access to the donation data)
[20:29] <Snowhog> TheLordOfTime: Yes, got that. Just asked the question on #freenode. :)
[21:32] <Linkmaster> I want to connect my 11.10 kubu laptop and my 12.04 kubu desktop. I have an ethernet cable that is not needed for my network, and I'm wanting to connect them with a wired connection, preferably not over my home network. is it possible to connect them to each other simply, and view/access the files on the other? I'm wanting to transfer all my data from the 11.10 -> 12.04
[21:35] <yofel> Linkmaster: if you're directly wiring them up you'll need a crossover cable and possibly a manual network configuration. Other than that it should work
[21:36] <Linkmaster> I'm not exactly sure what a cross over cable is..
[21:36] <Linkmaster> the cable I have has eth. on one side, and eth/USB on the other side
[21:40] <yofel> Linkmaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable - without that you'll need 2 cables and a switch at least
[21:43] <yofel> Linkmaster: you could still try it though, it would still work if one of the network cards has auto-MDIX
[21:44] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: Gigabit cards?
[21:47] <keithzg> Is there any equivalent of xkill that, instead of killing a window's creator, tells me the PID? Or alternatively, does anyone know the actuall process/executable for System Activity?
[21:53] <yofel> keithzg: usually xprop
[21:54] <yofel> but trusting it, the window seems to be a krunner plugin
[22:01] <keithzg> yofel: thanks; yeah, seems to be, that makes it slightly tricker for my edge-case scenario but still doable :)
[22:03] <yofel> ksysguard uses that view as a tab too, but defaults to system statistics. Has it's own executable though
[22:04] <keithzg> Aha! There's the ticket. Once again, thanks yofel!
[22:31] <Deathvalley122> hello does anyone know what the release date is for ubuntu mobile? for mobile phones
[22:59] <Daskreech> Deathvalley122: #ubuntu might be better
[22:59] <Daskreech> I doubt anyone c an say it publically though
[23:34] <Catbuntu> hi
[23:36] <skreech_> hi
[23:38] <Catbuntu> Hey skreech_.
[23:38] <skreech_> What's up?
[23:39] <Catbuntu> Still in love with Kubuntu.
[23:40] <Catbuntu> It's my distro hopper rehab!
[23:45] <Linkmaster> yofel: I doubt its the proper crossover kind, though, knetworkmanager on both computers recognized and "connected" to each other
[23:45] <skreech_> Catbuntu: When you overdose on hopping?
[23:45] <skreech_> Linkmaster: how did they get get IP addresse?
[23:45] <Catbuntu> always
[23:45] <Catbuntu> i always used to hop
[23:46] <Linkmaster> skreech_: I manually assigned them
[23:46] <skreech_> OK cool
[23:47] <skreech_> Catbuntu: Yeah Me too :)