[02:57] <greenfrog_> i have no settings or menubar with a fresh install how do i get them?
[07:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:11] <mkquist> morning
[07:12] <justxux_> Good morning
[07:15] <justxux_> Will plasma 5.12.8  come soon through main repos, or better use kubuntu ppa?
[07:29] <lordievader> They used to land early in backports repo's/ppa's.
[08:14] <shanemikel> I've combined some tweaks on the web with custom rules to make the firefox tabs fit the KDE tab style
[08:15] <shanemikel> curious to see if anybody wants to try it.. not sure if kubuntu folks would ever consider shipping a hack like that..
[08:15] <shanemikel> its all CSS
[08:15] <acheronuk> justxux_: hopefully in updates & backports ppas in the next few days. The QA required to get the updates in the main archive is significant and lengthy, but they will come there after a while
[08:50] <stvnstck> word
[08:51] <stvnstck> what's the word, birds?
[08:51] <shanemikel> word
[08:51] <stvnstck> word word word word
[08:51] <stvnstck> what's going on, Shane?
[08:51] <shanemikel> whats the word?
[08:52] <stvnstck> bird's the word
[08:52] <shanemikel> word
[08:52] <stvnstck> lo
[08:52] <stvnstck> lol
[08:52] <krytarik> !ot
[08:52] <stvnstck> notta, can't sleep
[08:52] <shanemikel> do you use firefox?
[08:53] <stvnstck> yes
[08:53] <stvnstck> falkon's cool too
[08:53] <shanemikel> wanna try my css hack to make the tabs fit KDE tab style ?
[08:54] <stvnstck> sure
[08:55] <shanemikel> ok so firefox has a config directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/<some random alphanum chars>.default
[08:56] <shanemikel> if you mkdir ~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile id>.default/chrome and put these css file in, you can tweak the ui.. so I'll just zip up my tweaks and you can try it..
[08:57] <stvnstck> really?
[08:57] <stvnstck> cool
[09:00] <shanemikel> https://gist.github.com/shanemikel/09243d5cec02bea112e4c448708669c7
[09:01] <shanemikel> Yeah I think a gist is a better idea actually..
[09:02] <shanemikel> you have to fully restart firefox to get the new style to load (unfortunately simply opening a new window doesnt work)
[09:03] <shanemikel> incidentally I also think these customizations look better than default on macos
[09:03] <shanemikel> but the tabs were specifically styled to kde
[09:07] <shanemikel> stvnstck: I'm not sure how it will look if you aren't using kde breeze theme
[09:08] <shanemikel> or if you're using a firefox "add-on" theme
[09:36] <Scottbert_> Hello
[09:36] <Scottbert_> I am having the most bizarre problem, between multiple linux distros
[09:36] <Scottbert_> I have a wireless USB mouse and a wired USB keyboard
[09:37] <Scottbert_> SOMETIMES, the mouse is laggy and drops lots of inputs, and the keyboard is the same
[09:37] <Scottbert_> Other times, it is fine. Seems to be determine3d at boot.
[09:37] <Scottbert_> It's not a hardware problem. The mouse and keyboard work fine in Windows and even in the UEFI screen.
[09:37] <Scottbert_> Is there anyone who can help me or has encountered a problem like this?
[09:39] <shanemikel> which distros?
[09:47] <Scottbert_> solydk, solydk ee, and a kubuntu liveusb so far
[09:47] <Scottbert_> Just fixed it by plugging them into USB3 ports instead of USB2 ports
[09:47] <Scottbert_> Why a mouse and keyboard are sometimes too much for linux USB2.0 handling is beyond me though
[09:53] <Scottbert_> So today I learned why point releases are a thing and why being stuck on ancient debian isn't necessarily better
[09:54] <Scottbert_> I'm trying to switch over from windows after having some trouble with the windows installer and deciding I'm tired of win10 getting worse
[09:55] <Scottbert_> So it sounds like Ubuntu is a reasonable comprimise between 'have recent versions of packages' and 'have things break when packages suddenly disappear or break or something'
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:29] <ocean416> Hi blueskay last time i lost Connection. And could not reenter. Sorry
[11:30] <ocean416> I rebooted with usbbstick and gateway worked fine.
[11:32] <ocean416> Now i tried to boot the normal kubuntu again, but i can't login anymore. (Only on alt-ctrl-f4)
[11:32] <ocean416> Can you (or someone else) help me?
[11:37] <BluesKaj> ocean416, ok, try this in the the VT/TTY, sudo systemctl enable sddm, then, sudo systemctl start sddm, then boot
[11:45] <BluesKaj> VT/TTY is the same as ctl+alt+F2 to F6
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ocean416,^
[11:45] <ocean416> The enable command gives en error
[11:46] <ocean416> Unit files have no installation config
[11:46] <lordievader> ocean416: What is the output of `sudo systemctl status sddm`?
[11:47] <ocean416> Status. Says loaded aktiv and running
[11:48] <lordievader> Could you pastebin the full output please?
[11:48] <lordievader> !paste
[11:49] <ocean416> Is there a posibility to repair kubuntu complete? Last time the rootspace was full. Perhaps that causes the problem
[11:58] <ocean416> Im working on it, but its not easy to get a sharp pic with mobile.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> ocean416, are you using separate / and /home partitions ?
[12:03] <ocean416> No. It was the /tmp that was grown to >30GB
[12:04] <ocean416> Vlc was in timeshift and filled it up
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Vlc was in timeshift?
[12:15] <ocean416> VLC ( videoplayer) was streaming a tv progranm. I paused it. Then he record everyting in /tmp/vlc... Files.
[12:16] <ocean416> All Files were deleted but still open so they were hard to find
[12:17] <ocean416> Did you get the screenshoot?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ocean416, use a different directory to record in
[12:21] <BluesKaj> ocean416, you have to post the url  here that you pasted the screenshot to
[12:22] <ocean416> I made  /tmp to an tmpfs with 1GB. So it should not happen again
[12:25] <ocean416> http://bilderhochladen.org/i/AlKk6S3BFg
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hmm running as root
[12:30] <ocean416> I did a sudo bash at the beginning
[12:31] <BluesKaj> why
[12:32] <ocean416> Because i did not want to enter the password ever command
[12:35] <ocean416> You see a problem doing it?
[12:36] <lordievader> sddm is enabled.
[12:37] <lordievader> ocean416: I guess I miss context, what was your original problem?
[12:38] <ocean416> I can't login in the gui
[12:38] <lordievader> But you can on the tty?
[12:39] <ocean416> I have no mouse, an can't type in gui
[12:39] <ocean416> Yes tty works
[12:45] <lordievader> ocean416: Could you pastebin your `/var/log/Xorg.0.log`?
[12:46] <lordievader> You might want to install `pastebinit` for this 😉
[12:49] <ocean416> I have no internet on that pc. It don't work too.
[12:57] <ocean416> Its a notebook. I found an  entry: find optical mouse. ... Cant find driver ... Ignoring device
[12:59] <ocean416> I removed the usb cable, pluged in again. Now touchpad, keyboard and mouse work in gui screen
[12:59] <ocean416> I could enter the pwd but nothing happen when i press enter
[13:02] <ocean416> Or if i press button login with the mouse (inly button turns blue for a moment)
[13:02] <ocean416> Only
[13:05] <ocean416> Kubuntu lts is not very old perhaps 2 weeks, i booted it only <15 times before.
[13:06] <lordievader> No possiblity of plugging in an ethernet cable?
[13:11] <ocean416> Internet cable is plugged. But it dont work to
[13:14] <ocean416> It only reachesbthe Gateway. But cant find the ip if i give him a name.
[13:17] <ocean416> Nameserver dont work i think.  But its not a problem with the gateway. When i boot kubuntu usb stick Internet works with this cable and router. Same notebook.
[13:22] <BluesKaj> ocean416, how old is this notebook?
[13:23] <lordievader> ocean416: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> with the cable connected?
[13:26] <ocean416> I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:27] <ocean416> Its a Lenovo W500 perhaps 10 years old
[13:31] <ocean416> How can i add <IP_ADDRESS> to dns?
[13:36] <ocean416> Do i need a /etc/resolv.conf ? Nm-dispatcher says he cant find one in syslog
[13:36] <diogenes_> probably with dnsmasq
[13:38] <BluesKaj> or in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[13:41] <BluesKaj> ocean416, also if you have access to the router firmware DNS entries there are usually most effective
[13:46] <ocean416> Router said i have to confirm via telefone connected when i triedit last time. But in have no phone conneted....
[13:47] <ocean416> All other devices work fine with this router
[13:47] <lordievader> ocean416: Yes, /etc/resolv.conf is the easiest. Make sure 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' is the first entry in there.
[13:47] <lordievader> That should fix your dns issues.
[13:48] <lordievader> Then you can pastebin your `/var/log/Xorg.0.log` 😉
[13:49] <ocean416> Can you post me, what in have to post there?
[13:56] <ocean416> the etc/resolved.conf is linked to run/systemd/resolved/stub-resolv.conf  but the last directory dont exist
[14:05] <BluesKaj>  /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[14:06] <lordievader> ocean416: I'd like to see the entire xorg log file.
[14:07] <lordievader> ocean416: Is resolved not running? (`systemctl status systemd-resolved`)
[14:13] <ocean416> Blueskaj in systemd it exist but empty values
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yes, you add the nameservers there
[14:16] <ocean416> Lorddievader i still need the conection to send you the file. I will try ask the status later. Pc is turn off now, because i have to leave now.
[14:17] <ocean416> Thank you for your help.
[14:19] <ocean416> Blueskaj i have set dns t o <IP_ADDRESS> that changed nothing in that moment, but perhaps when i restart later.
[15:33] <Kon-> Hey folks, my Dbus got borked and now it's throwing error "The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"
[15:33] <Kon-> How can I fix it?
[17:09] <the-noob> hello, I have automatic login disabled and still get the prompt to unlock my keyring when opening an app that uses it
[17:09] <the-noob> (like Skype or MySQL Workbench)
[17:10] <the-noob> any ideas why is that happening ?
[17:11] <the-noob> or how can I make it so that it is unlocked when I login
[19:14] <Guest20580> привет...
[19:14] <Guest20580> есть кто?
[19:15] <Guest20580> is anybody here&
[19:15] <diogenes_> дасс
[19:15] <Guest20580> ?*
[19:15] <Guest20580> фух, итс э лайв
[19:15] <diogenes_> English
[19:15] <diogenes_> !ru
[19:16] <Guest20580> i have some problems with application "app discover"
[19:16] <Guest20580> it dosen't work...
[20:36] <marco-parillo[m]> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[22:41] <kitsimf> hi, I have some problem with kde plasma after instalation .exe program. the logs write next: [KCrash Handler]
[22:43] <girlinpink> Vaccinations: Purposeful Poisoning:
[22:43] <girlinpink> https://www.bitchute.com/video/nLkBXES2Aj33/
[22:54]  * genii ponders this installing EXE files in linux thing
[23:32] <Oderus> hi guys. anyone experienced with latte dock? I'm interested in applying a background image instead of just a grey/gray background. How would i accomplish this?
[23:46] <satangirl> Hey.
[23:46] <satangirl> https://www.bitchute.com/video/LCDtueqVg7zB/ (Elite Jew Scum by Charles Giuliani)
[23:47] <genii> Fairly apt name they chose, for the content they posted
[23:58] <Sigyn> ** Warning: if there is any bot in #kubuntu which should be exempted from Sigyn, contact staffers before it gets caught **


[02:25] <Keybuk> mbiebl: no, hadn't heard anything about that
[02:25] <Keybuk> cool ;-)
[13:39] <nanonyme> Any devs or other people who'd like to spar a few ideas about upstart present?
[13:39] <sadmac2> nanonyme: what do you mean?
[13:41] <nanonyme> Well, I bumped into the apparently common issue of it being a bit tricky to start programs inside a chroot when dealing with upstart.
[13:42] <nanonyme> I was wondering if there is some working solution and if not, whether dbus could be used so that upstart outside the chroot could communicate with processes inside the chroot and supervise them.
[13:44] <nanonyme> Opinions or ideas?
[13:44] <Keybuk> there isn't a working solution
[13:44] <Keybuk> just some fuzzy ideas
[13:45] <Keybuk> it's not really that high on the urgency list
[13:46] <nanonyme> Yeah. But would you think something like that could work? That is, that since upstart can use dbus, you'd hook up the directories dbus uses between real system and chroot.
[13:47] <nanonyme> (or am I missing something crucial here?)
[13:48] <Keybuk> I don't see how D-Bus helps here
[13:54] <nanonyme> Point. I didn't really think it far enough through.
[13:58] <Keybuk> the difficulty mostly comes from the chroot separation
[13:59] <Keybuk> making sure that "start apache" in the chroot starts the apache in the chroot, not in the outside system
[14:01] <nanonyme> Hrm.
[14:48] <sadmac2_> udev's syntax makes me pee a little.
[15:13] <sadmac> Keybuk: here's one for you: writing a "hey, look how cool libnih is!" blog post. Wanted a practical but simple code snippet that shows why multiple parents is useful.
[15:15] <Keybuk> err, there must be one somewhere in Upstart's source ;-)
[15:15] <sadmac> Keybuk: practical, lots of them. The simple is key :)
[15:16] <sadmac> i.e. an example that makes sense in 20 lines without having to see the whole rest of upstart's code
[15:17] <Keybuk> err, you could use a message?
[15:17] <Keybuk> where a struct has a string in it
[15:18] <Keybuk> (string parent is struct)
[15:18] <Keybuk> and you borrow the string, referencing it, using it in another struct
[15:18] <sadmac> was thinking along those lines
[17:57] <sadmac> http://screwyouenterpriseedition.blogspot.com/2010/03/why-you-should-be-using-libnih.html
[18:32] <sadmac> Keybuk: are you against patches to make some of the ignored compatibility options in /sbin/shutdown do what they used to?
[18:32] <Keybuk> yes
[18:33] <Keybuk> for the most part
[18:33] <Keybuk> IMO shutdown should only accept options that change the way the machine is shut down
[18:33] <sadmac> notting: we still have bugs for making -f, -F, and -n
[18:33] <Keybuk> all of the other silly hangers-on are better off moved to other tools / GNOME UI / etc.
[18:33] <sadmac> notting: kill these things?
[18:34] <Keybuk> -f, -F, etc. wildly assume your filesystem check implementation
[18:34] <Keybuk> e.g. for us, forcing a fsck is adding a kernel command-line argument, not touching a file
[18:34] <sadmac> we can do it either way
[18:35] <Keybuk> right, but I don't want to force that kind of thing
[18:35] <Keybuk> you may not even fsck on boot
[18:36] <Keybuk> maybe it's an embedded system with a read-only filesystem anyway
[18:36] <Keybuk> etc.
[18:36] <Keybuk> that's why I don't want any of those flags in shutdown
[18:37] <sadmac> I'd prefer not to carry patches. I think I'll WONTFIX the fedora bugs. If plautrba wants/is forced to do something about it in RHEL, so be it.
[18:43] <notting> Keybuk: well, if it's an embedded system, you get what you deserve if you tell it to fsck on the next reboot
[18:45] <sadmac> notting: are you up for an initscripts-based fix for 464456?
[18:45] <sadmac> see comment 3
[18:46] <notting> eh, i'm not sure the current behavior is really wrong
[18:46] <Keybuk> notting: put another way
[18:47] <Keybuk> if shutdown should have a "and check filesystems on next reboot" option
[18:47] <Keybuk> shouldn't shutdown also have a "reboot into windows" option? :p
[18:47] <notting> oh gah, lilo -R
[18:48] <sadmac> notting: I can close 464456, or give it to you to close. Where should we put it?
[18:48] <notting> i'll close it
[18:55] <sadmac> notting: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441048 , terminal isn't in cooked mode when it should be?
[18:56] <notting> yeah. it goes away, it comes back. usually we blame halfline
[18:58] <sadmac> notting: should I move it to plymouth? Or to initscripts (I'm guessing some sort of echo ^[!@#$%!@#$^! at the start of the single user job could fix it)
[18:58] <notting> plymouth
[19:03] <sadmac> Keybuk: do you have a launchpad bug about upstart not working on XFS?
[19:12] <nanonyme> Hrm, ^M is supposed to be enter too though, me thinks.
[19:14] <halfline> ^M is carriage return.  tty settings determine whether ^M or ^J or some combination there of is enter
[19:15] <nanonyme> Right. Both ^M and ^J are considered enter here though.
[19:16] <nanonyme> I've always hated the amount of variation those things have. :p Including backspace.
[21:50] <Caesar> Keybuk: you around?