[00:00] <magdalena> i just assume i have a wrong package
[00:00] <James147> magdalena: then do you mind explaining?
[00:00] <magdalena> ok. basically, i have this probl: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.bugs/386256
[00:01] <magdalena> unlike all the other, who seemed to have this problem - my problem wasn't solved with upgrades
[00:01] <magdalena> I tried the maverick betas and some where in this process this issue arrived
[00:01] <magdalena> and never got away
[00:02] <magdalena> although i upgraded from kde 4.5.0 to 4.5.1
[00:02] <magdalena> and i am on maverick final now
[00:02] <magdalena> i tried even sth like reinstalling all packages and removed all .deb files beforehand
[00:02] <magdalena> that didn't work
[00:02] <James147> magdalena: so you want ppa did you instakll (and remove?)
[00:03] <magdalena> well, i experiment a lot :) i quite often install a ppa, try something and purge this again
[00:03] <magdalena> never had probls
[00:03] <magdalena> but I now assume, that one of those ppas causes this behaviour
[00:04] <magdalena> the only thing i can think about
[00:04] <magdalena> if you have a better idea...
[00:04] <James147> magdalena: well, you can disable the extra ppas in kpackagekit (settings tab > edit origins   in maverick)
[00:05] <James147> magdalena: then I would reinstall "kubuntu-desktop" with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"
[00:05] <magdalena> the only extra ppa i currently use is ubuntu-x-swat
[00:06] <magdalena> i already tried such things
[00:06] <magdalena> besides that --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop does not much
[00:07] <magdalena> since kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[00:15] <chemtail> I'm on a newly upgraded 10.10 (from 10.04) and I notice that when pressing ie. the applauncher hotkey, it'll pop up, but it doesn't retract when I press again.
[00:15] <chemtail> Is this supposed to be a feature, or a bug?  Same goes for hotkeys I've set for the device notifier, battery monitor, etc.
[00:39] <DavidTalbot> good evening =) has anybody an idea how dolphin mounts ntfs partitions? i would like to use this in the fstab
[00:40] <DavidTalbot> my problem is chmod issent working with  rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[00:45] <DavidTalbot> problem solved thx
[00:55] <Kage> can someone help me setup OpenVPN with Network Manager?
[01:32] <illunatic> how do i move/organize window list items in the task bar?
[01:35] <illunatic> 10.04
[01:42] <epoxy> hello.. I just updated to 10.10 and now all the channels for my soundcard are gone. I can't listen to the headphone jack without sound coming out the speakers too
[01:43] <epoxy> *channels for kmixer
[01:43] <epoxy> ... I have the master though.
[01:44]  * epoxy uses alsamixer in the meantime
[01:50] <moetunes> there's been a few ppl with kmix issues in 10.10
[01:51] <chemtail> I do believe this is related to the fact that 10.10 switched to pulse-audio ?
[01:59] <thomas_> hello
[02:00] <jdmcclung> In the Plasma Netbook version there is bar just under the top panel that you can add programs. I use a lot of the chrome application shortcuts, but can not seem to add them to this area. Is there anyway to do this?
[02:01] <thomas_> has anyone had any problems with 10.10 on the cron.daily constantly running?
[02:36] <chemtail> In 10.10, and 10.04 for that matter, setting a global hotkey to launch an application simply doesn't work.  I've tried searching around, but there are a fair few hits on hotkey-related stuff going around, hard to sift.  Can anyone shorten my search?
[02:44] <jschall> i'm running kubuntu 10.10 on my netbook, and when i close an application, nothing gets focused. I'm assuming the last-used window should get focused immediately when the focused window is closed?
[02:45] <jschall> focus stealing prevention is on low
[03:38] <jschall> on startup and shutdown, my kubuntu splash screen looks like this: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/splash.jpg
[03:38] <jschall> how can i fix it?
[03:38] <jschall> what package should i reinstall?
[03:48] <jschall> on startup and shutdown, my kubuntu splash screen looks like this: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/splash.jpg how can i fix it? is there a package that i can reinstall?
[03:49] <jschall> also, there's always this weird shadow outline of a window: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/snapshot1.png
[03:50] <jschall> which apparently goes away if i disable and re-enable desktop effects.
[03:50] <jschall> so never mind
[03:55] <jschall> Guest34733: if your name was root because you're using the root account on your box to log into irc, you should probably not be doing that.
[03:57] <Unco> guys, totally i fixed my problem in kubuntu, that create two language and change between them and type with both!
[04:08] <valorie> jschall: can't load your image
[04:08] <valorie> Unco: how did you solve it?
[04:09] <valorie> jschall: neither image
[04:10] <jschall> valorie: the splash screen is basically gone. is there a way to reinstall it?
[04:11] <valorie> oh gosh, having a brain freeze
[04:11] <valorie> sec, and I'll google
[04:11] <jschall> valorie: also can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:12] <jschall> valorie: i've been trying to figure it out with google
[04:12] <valorie> $ ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:12] <valorie> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:12] <jschall> nothing?
[04:12] <gobi42> hey guys what's up
[04:12] <jschall> huh.
[04:12] <gobi42> anyone having issues with window decorations in kde 4.5
[04:12] <jschall> that's weird.
[04:14] <gobi42> well everytime i change decorations now my screen goes black and the only thing i can do is hit power and click restart
[04:17] <Unco> where is the folder of games in kubuntu 10.10?
[04:18] <valorie> jschall: this is old, but it is still generally the way things are: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[04:18] <valorie> scroll down for splash screen
[04:18] <valorie> Unco: there wasn't room on the LiveCD
[04:18] <valorie> so you'll have to install them separately
[04:19] <valorie> if you did a clean install
[04:19] <jschall> valorie: any luck on the splash?
[04:19] <valorie> yes, read up a bit
[04:19] <jschall> valorie: and can you get to pmtech.com?
[04:19] <jschall> valorie: because i think my router might be messed up
[04:20] <valorie> yes, that loads
[04:20] <Unco> valorie : if i correctly dl & inst them, they will keep where place?
[04:21] <valorie> socket operations timed out, is the error message I get for the images
[04:22] <valorie> Unco: I can't guarantee that
[04:22] <jschall> valorie: well, i think i need to restart my wireless bridge
[04:22] <valorie> lol
[04:22] <jschall> valorie: anyway, you know how to fix my splash?
[04:22] <valorie> jschall: this is old, but it is still generally the way things are: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[04:23] <valorie> as I said earlier
[04:23] <valorie> scroll down for splash
[04:23] <jschall> valorie: i must've missed it, been messing with networking
[04:23] <Unco> lol valorie
[04:24] <valorie> my games work fine, at least klondike does!
[04:24] <jschall> valorie: i don't mean the kde splash, it's the kubuntu boot splash
[04:24] <jschall> valorie: is that in here?
[04:24] <valorie> right, there are two
[04:24] <valorie> the kubuntu one is prettier, IMO
[04:25] <valorie> KDE needs some freshening up
[04:25] <jschall> valorie: let me try to get you the image
[04:25] <valorie> try imagebin.ca
[04:26] <jschall> valorie: http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1366/splashc.jpg
[04:26] <jschall> valorie: ugly, eh?
[04:26] <valorie> that's broken, all right
[04:27] <jschall> valorie: is there a way to reinstall it?
[04:27] <valorie> what do you have there?
[04:27] <valorie> did you upgrade recently?
[04:27] <jschall> valorie: this is an install from an ubuntu disc that i installed kubuntu-desktop on, splash worked then, then i'm not sure what broke it
[04:28] <jschall> valorie: i've used the kubuntu-ppa to install 4.5.2, but that didn't break any splash on my other machines
[04:28] <jschall> valorie: i just want the package name for the splash, really.
[04:29] <jschall> valorie: does ubuntu still use usplash? or what?
[04:29] <valorie> no idea about ubuntu
[04:29] <jschall> valorie: kubuntu
[04:30] <valorie> I tried installing kde-desktop over ubuntu with very bad results
[04:30] <valorie> I had to do a clean kub. 10.10 install
[04:31] <valorie> asked in kubuntu-devel:
[04:31] <valorie> [20:29] <JontheEchidna> plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo and plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text
[04:31] <valorie> [20:30] <JontheEchidna> (text is used when the graphics drivers can't do a graphical theme)
[04:31] <jschall> cool
[04:31] <valorie> plymouth, why couldn't I think of it?
[04:31] <valorie> lol
[04:31] <jschall> thank you
[04:31] <jschall> restarting to find out if it worked, ran sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
[04:33] <jschall> valorie: failure!
[04:39] <valorie> I'm sorry to hear that
[05:04] <OmnipotentEntity> Does anyone know of a good way to fix an issue where when I'm logged in for a long amount of time my down scroll wheel refuses to scroll applications down without clicking it a bazillion times?
[05:05] <OmnipotentEntity> I can't even think of what I can google...
[05:25] <OmnipotentEntity> It seems to be independent of my XSession, because I started a gnome session and it's still not working...
[05:25] <OmnipotentEntity> I also tried unplugging it and plugging it back in
[05:30] <valorie> OmnipotentEntity: it sounds more like your mouse is no longer being listened to
[05:32] <OmnipotentEntity> valorie, what's the best way to fix that?
[05:32] <valorie> sorry, i don't have a clue
[05:38] <OmnipotentEntity> When I cat /dev/input/mouse1 and scroll the wheel up and down it exhibits the same behavior.  When I rmmod usbhid && modprobe usbhid it doesn't fix it. :(
[05:39] <OmnipotentEntity> might be hardware?
[05:40] <valorie> do you have another mouse you could try?
[05:42] <OmnipotentEntity> nay
[05:44] <jschall> valorie: did you leave ping jon.pmtech.com running?
[05:45] <jschall> valorie: because i have a ping coming in every second when i look on wireshark
[05:45] <jschall> valorie: it just can't respond from that interface for some reason
[05:49] <OmnipotentEntity> valorie, thanks for your help, I took apart my trackball and de-dustbunnyerized it and it works fine now. :D
[06:01] <bigbrovar> is anyone having issues with strigi on Kubuntu 10.10? it seems to just working for no reason
[06:03] <bigbrovar> use to have that issue on lucid with kde 4.5 where strigi would work for a while then just stopped working and that would be the case for a long while then it would start working.. but this is the first time I am experiencing same issue on 10.10 and am not alone the guy on identica has the same issue https://identi.ca/notice/57022486
[06:05] <valorie> jschall: heh
[06:05] <valorie> it did finally start pinging, yes
[06:05] <valorie> sorry about that
[06:05] <jschall> valorie: you're getting replies
[06:05] <jschall> valorie: i know it did
[06:05] <valorie> well, I closed the bash window
[06:05] <jschall> valorie: i was just asking because i could see the requests coming in but not going out
[06:06] <jschall> valorie: i'm trying to fix it properly
[06:06] <jschall> valorie: basically i have two interfaces
[06:06] <jschall> valorie: two subnets
[06:06] <jschall> valorie: two gateways
[06:06] <valorie> well, I'm no longer pinging
[06:06] <jschall> valorie: and i think the way it was set up before, the pings were trying to go out the default gateway which was the gateway for the other interface
[06:07] <jschall> valorie: i can see that =P
[06:07] <jschall> valorie: so now i'm trying to follow this guide: http://kindlund.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/configuring-multiple-default-routes-in-linux/
[06:08] <valorie> bigbrovar: it used to stop all the time for me too
[06:09] <valorie> so I just turned it off
[06:09] <bigbrovar> valorie: yeah I wish I could do that. but turning it off makes it almost impossible to search.
[06:10] <valorie> updatedb and locate?
[06:10] <valorie> I don't tag stuff anyway
[06:10] <valorie> except music
[06:10] <valorie> and Amarok finds that beautifully
[06:10] <bigbrovar> when it works it works so beautifully. it seems to be reaching some type of limit or code expairation .. it would be nice if we can track what the issue is
[06:11] <valorie> indeed
[06:11] <bigbrovar> I can always use locate on the server but IMHO its not meant for the desktop like I said strigi use to work very well when it decide to work.  when*
[06:12] <valorie> there is #strigi
[06:12] <bigbrovar> I don't know though if this is just a kubuntu bug or a general kde 4.5 bug
[06:12] <valorie> I guess you could search both bug databases
[06:12] <valorie> lp and bko
[06:13] <bigbrovar> cool let me head over there. I hope I don't get flamed for using kubuntu cus that is the usual response I get with upstream
[06:13] <bigbrovar> sure good idea
[06:13] <valorie> what?
[06:13] <valorie> that sucks!
[06:13] <valorie> all the kde people I know are very cool
[06:13] <bigbrovar> yeah :(
[06:13] <valorie> and some of them use kub.
[06:14] <valorie> geez, freedom!
[06:14] <bigbrovar> yeah guess its the bad egges then lol
[06:14] <bigbrovar> jerks will always be jerks  we cant be borthered
[06:14] <bigbrovar> let me head over to the strigi channel
[06:14] <valorie> Riddell is active in both kub. and kde
[06:14] <bigbrovar> thanks valorie
[06:20] <noaXess> good morning
[06:20] <noaXess> does anybody also has the problem with sound on a fresh start, that no soun dis active... i need to mmute, unmute sound to get it work.. and also the volume is set to very low.. i also need to volume up..
[06:21] <valorie> in 10.04, or 10.10?
[06:21] <noaXess> 10.10
[06:21] <valorie> I had that identical problem in 10.04
[06:22] <valorie> but it's now solved for me in 10.10
[06:22] <noaXess> after that step sound works perfect.. louder then ever..
[06:22] <noaXess> hehe.. strange
[06:22] <valorie> however, sometimes people need to install pavucontrol
[06:22] <valorie> and go through all the devices
[06:22] <noaXess> this is installed
[06:22] <valorie> seems to wake PA up, or something
[06:22] <valorie> I've not needed to use it after that once
[06:23] <valorie> my mic  was muted
[06:23] <valorie> it's worked ever since
[06:23] <valorie> you might start up alsamixer in a console
[06:23] <valorie> make sure all channels are turned up
[06:23] <noaXess> as ai sa, i need just mte/unmute sound to get it work
[06:24] <valorie> ok
[06:24] <valorie> well, i never tracked down the cause
[06:24] <valorie> and seemed to be the only one affected
[06:24] <noaXess> will file a bug..
[06:24] <valorie> I filed a bug, but there was no attention paid to it
[06:24] <valorie> maybe they will this time around
[06:24] <valorie> :-)
[06:25] <noaXess> have you the bug id, or link?
[06:25] <noaXess> is there any way to check a ntfs hd for filesystem errors an dix them?
[06:28] <dennis___> hi to all
[06:28] <noaXess> good morning dennis___
[06:40] <jschall> hey someone was telling me that network-manager was going away
[06:41] <jschall> it doesn't seem to be away
[06:41] <jschall> why is it not away?
[06:41] <jschall> i want it to go away
[06:53] <noaXess> jschall: you want it removed?
[07:08] <mah454> who i can connect to server in KDE . non CLI mode !
[07:09] <mah454> who i can connect to server in KDE . non CLI mode !
[07:27] <jschall> noaXess: sorry, didn't see your message. i removed it a long time ago on my desktop, but i still have to use it for wireless on my netbook
[07:29] <mahsom> hello
[07:29] <jschall> noaXess: i've never seen an OS that makes connecting to wifi networks so complicated for the user.
[07:30] <mahsom> who i can Connect to server on kubuntu GUI mode .
[07:30] <jschall> mahsom: what's your first language?
[07:30] <mahsom> farsi
[07:32] <jschall> mah454: what are trying to ask? you want to use remote desktop?
[07:32] <mah454> Nautilus can connect to other server . but in dolphin can not .
[07:33] <jschall> mah454: i understand that.
[07:33] <jschall> mah454: it should be able to.
[07:34] <jschall> mah454: what type of server are you trying to connect to? sftp, smb, ftp?
[07:34] <mah454> connecting over ssh in gui mode
[07:35] <jschall> mah454: you should be able to type the hostname or ip address of your server after sftp:// in dolphin's address bar
[07:35] <jschall> mah454: and connect
[07:36] <mah454> thank you :)
[07:37] <jschall> mah454: if you hold on while i get openssh on this new install, i'll try it for myself
[07:39] <jschall> mah454: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/snapshot2.png
[07:39] <mah454> no . thank you
[07:39] <jschall> mah454: i'm sorry?
[07:39] <mah454> excuse me ... !
[07:41] <jschall> mah454: it's alright, it was just unclear whether you were refusing to click on my link or telling me that it was unnecessary to try it myself
[07:41] <jschall> mah454: and i still am =P
[07:41] <mah454> please wait
[07:42] <jschall> mah454: was i able to solve your problem? does the link depict what you were asking about?
[07:43] <mah454> My problem is fixed ...
[07:43] <jschall> mah454: ok, that's great
[07:51] <noaXess> jschall: i haven't problem with wifi.. i use wicd.. cause it's easier and faster...
[08:25] <kyubutsu> when setting encrypted /home upon install, whats the method used, pam-encfs ? something else?
[08:30] <smooph1> hi i have a problem with the update of my intel graphics driver ... are there any problems reportet with dual monitor and intel
[08:48] <kexman_> hi
[09:00] <kexman_> how could i make windows xp (in virtualbox) see my USB that i attached to my Kubuntu ?
[09:04] <tdn> How can I stream my webcam to a web site? I have installed apache web server and I have a web cam.
[09:09] <greenmang0> i accidently deleted all the stuff in /etc/init/
[09:09] <greenmang0> what should i do now?
[09:14] <valorie> greenmang0: do you have a backup somewhere that you can copy back?
[09:14] <greenmang0> valorie: nope :(
[09:15] <valorie> that's my only suggestion, so you might search the ubuntuforums
[09:15] <valorie> that isn't a kubuntu-only type question
[09:16] <valorie> might be more people around in #ubuntu , also
[09:17] <greenmang0> valorie: i am using kubuntu that's why i asked here... i did ask in #ubuntu as well :0
[09:19] <greenmang0> valorie: can you give me your /etc/init/ ?
[09:20] <valorie> oh, how would you suggest I do that?
[09:20] <valorie> are you on 10.10?
[09:27] <greenmang0> valorie: yes
[09:41] <valorie> I'm not much of a techie, I'm afraid
[09:41] <valorie> I know how to copy files from one place to another
[09:41] <valorie> but I wouldn't have a clue how to copy them all over to you
[09:42] <valorie> do you have a LoCo where you are?
[09:42] <valorie> or a LUG?
[09:46] <geekosopher> greenmang0: I don't think /etc/init are same on all the computers as they might be customised during install
[09:46] <geekosopher> so copying someone's /etc/init may not help
[09:47] <valorie> any ideas for greenmang0, geekosopher?
[09:47] <SpaceMint> is there an irc chan for Kubuntu Trinity?
[09:47] <greenmang0> geekosopher: ok....
[09:47] <geekosopher> greenmang0: as valorie suggested, you will be better off asking on ubuntuforums, linuxquestion or other forums
[09:48] <greenmang0> valorie: i am installing kubuntu through virtualbox and then will copy /etc/init/ stuff to host installation
[09:48] <geekosopher> SpaceMint: if there is one, it would have been mentioned on the project's webpage
[09:48] <greenmang0> geekosopher: ^^ how about that?
[09:49] <valorie> that is a creative idea
[09:49] <geekosopher> greenmang0: virtualbox is not the same hardware as your physical computer
[09:49] <geekosopher> so it will be same as copying valorie's /etc/init
[09:49] <geekosopher> :)
[09:50] <greenmang0> geekosopher: yeah... that's true
[09:50] <valorie> but I think there is a reason that end of the line testing is done really, rather than virtually
[09:50] <valorie> I think if it were me
[09:50] <valorie> I would make sure my backup of /home is awesome
[09:50] <valorie> and reinstall
[09:51] <geekosopher> greenmang0: i would second valorie's suggestion
[09:54] <geekosopher> greenmang0: also if you have installed a lot of extra software, and don't remember each one of them, I suggest you refer to http://nancib.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/creating-and-using-a-list-of-packages-you-have-installed/
[09:58] <valorie> woah, I never even thought of using ubuntuone
[09:58] <kexman_> how can i install virtualbox puel version instead of ose ?
[09:58] <valorie> although it's a pain to use in kubuntu
[10:00] <geekosopher> valorie: how do you use ubuntuone in kubuntu?
[10:00] <geekosopher> is there a client anywhere?
[10:01] <valorie> no, there was one created
[10:02] <valorie> but changes in ubuntuone broke it
[10:02] <geekosopher> :(
[10:02] <valorie> so you have to use it with gtk stuffs
[10:02] <valorie> or just use the website
[10:02] <valorie> it can be used on the commandline also
[10:02] <valorie> because basically it's just a specially linked folder
[10:02] <geekosopher> valorie: commandline? how?
[10:03] <valorie> where you put stuff you want to share
[10:04] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ
[10:04] <greenmang0> geekosopher: thanks for that link :0
[10:04] <greenmang0> :)
[10:04] <valorie> it's sorta mixed in there
[10:04] <geekosopher> valorie: thanks
[10:04] <geekosopher> greenmang0: always welcome
[10:13] <mah454> I do installing nvidia driver version 256.44 . now my boot splash screen (Plymouth) has been crashed . who i can fix this ?
[10:13] <Peace-> mah454: you have to install older version of nvidia drivers
[10:13] <Peace-> !nvidia
[10:13] <kexman_> [    7.894410] [drm] detected 127M stolen memory, trimming to 32M
[10:14] <kexman_> [    7.894498] [drm] set up 32M of stolen space
[10:14] <kexman_> does this means its using 32mb instead of 127m ?
[10:15] <mah454> Ok . my linux kernel header installed but when i can not install nvidia 185.1.31 . Error "Install linux hernel header"
[10:16] <mah454>  i can not install nvidia 185.1.31 . Error "Install linux hernel header"
[10:16] <Peace-> mah454: nice you have fucked up yor sissytem
[10:16] <Peace-> in some dirty way
[10:17] <mah454> befor installing this version i do run nvidia-unistall and unistall nvidia driver .
[10:18] <Peace-> mah454: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:18] <valorie> Peace-: language
[10:18] <mah454> no no no download nvdia driver from www.nvidia.com
[10:21] <Peace-> mah454: that is thte nicer way to destroy your distro if you are not expert
[10:21] <Peace-> there are repository use that
[10:21] <Peace-> we doesn't support every single package you find on the web, only official packages
[10:22] <mah454> i can undrestand your help . i am expert .
[10:22] <Peace-> if you do that by yourself you should understand  you do to your own risk
[10:23] <geekosopher> mah454: the packages in repositories are custom built for ubuntu, so there will be less chances of breaking your system
[10:24] <mah454> ok . i installing nvidia driver from kubuntu repository . thank you
[10:26] <floh79> Hi, if I change user with "su otheruser" ~/.profile doesn't affect. Why? I need it badly since there are userdefined environment-datas I need for otheruser.
[10:26] <geekosopher> mah454: always welcome
[10:26] <geekosopher> :)
[10:27] <Peace-> floh79: i guess every single stuff  is saved on $HOME/.kde
[10:29] <floh79> Peace-: I didn't understand what you mean.
[10:29] <floh79> Peace-: And why .kde? I think its bash-issue, isn't it?
[10:29] <floh79> I change user by entering "su otheruser" in konsole.
[10:32] <geekosopher> floh79: even if you change user using 'su otheruser', your home directory does not change. It would be better idea to login with that userid on another session
[10:33] <floh79> geekosopher: I don't want use another session. Ok well... then I should use chroot instead.
[10:34] <geekosopher> floh79: from the manpage: chroot - run command or interactive shell with special root directory
[10:34] <geekosopher> !chroot
[10:35] <floh79> geekosopher: Jupp, I know.
[10:36] <geekosopher> great then :)
[10:51] <vevensi> Hi:)
[11:35] <ken_fallon_away> Hi All
[11:35] <ken_fallon_away> I just updated to 10:10 and my netbook has the netbook interface on - how do I change it back to normal kde
[11:44] <ArGGu^^> ken_fallon_away system settings->workspace
[11:44] <ArGGu^^> change the workspace type
[11:48] <amichair> regarding the upgrade conf files release note, will the installer let me know which files I will need to diff manually?
[11:55] <greenmang0> valorie: you there?
[12:11] <cojack> hello guys
[12:11] <cojack> how can I send mail in kmail as html? I can not find any option
[12:40] <mah454_> what is keyboard shurtcut for minimize and maximize windows ?
[12:42] <mah454_> in Gnome : for maximize is <Alt>+<F10>
[12:53] <ken_fallon_away> cojack: compose then Options -> Formatting (HTML)
[13:00] <ken_fallon> mah454_: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts this is not possible in kde
[13:02] <ken_fallon> mah454_: There is a scriot here to do it - http://blog.hartwork.org/?p=524
[13:04] <cojack> ken_fallon: I can not find this...
[13:04] <mah454_> kde have not shortcut for minimize or maximize windows !
[13:05] <ken_fallon> mah454_: looks like it
[13:05] <ken_fallon> cojack: are you composing an email
[13:06] <mah454_> for example in gnome i can move any window with <Alt>+<F8> . what is this shortcut in kde ?
[13:06] <ken_fallon> mah454_: I'm seeing something on the gentoo forum about kdeplasma-addons alowing it
[13:06] <cojack> ken_fallon: I have checked this option
[13:06] <cojack> but when I send it at gmail.com host, and read it via web browser on gmail.com site, message was display as plain text
[13:14] <ken_fallon> cojack: testing . . . .
[13:15] <ken_fallon> cojack: I just sent a mail to my gemail account that had hello in arial font and green text and it came through
[13:18] <cojack> ken_fallon: strange... ;/
[13:35] <ken> Well, I'm new to this and need some help with my wireless card
[13:45] <rork> !wifi | ken
[13:50] <amichair> regarding the upgrade conf files release note, will the installer let me know which files I will need to diff manually?
[14:13] <gAnApAtI> Upgraded from Kubuntu 10.10 RC and see applications like konqueror and dolphin without the menu bar. Googled without results. Any ideas?
[14:54] <amichair> I just completed an upgrade lucid -> maverick, all seemed to go well, but after reboot I get a grub prompt. This on a winxp netbook with wubi (dual-boot menu shows ok before grub). What went wrong?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:57] <amichair> hey BluesKaj
[14:58] <BluesKaj> hi amichair
[15:01] <amichair> BluesKaj: have you upgraded to 10.10?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> having probs on my desktop with reinstalling 10.10 , the kernel 2.6.35-24-generic is trying to load but the kerenel in this pc is  2.6.35-22-generic ... the desktop hangs at grub.cfg because it seems to me it's looking for the wrong kernel ...very strange
[15:02] <amichair> hmmm... I just finished an upgrade and after reboot I'm getting a grub prompt, and I'm stuck here.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> I'm presently using our media server pc
[15:03] <BluesKaj> yup, that's probly it ...been looking for the bug fix on launchpad ...lots of reports but no fixes so far
[15:04] <BluesKaj> is the pc you're stuck on an older model like mine 4-5 yrs old ?
[15:05] <amichair> nope, a netbook, a couple years old. with wubi. I'm reading through bug reports as well, but no luck so far
[15:08] <BluesKaj> amichair, which repos are you using? USA, main or ?
[15:09] <amichair> I don't remember :-/
[15:09] <amichair> why?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> look in your sources.list or package manager ...I'm using the Canadian sources , but thinking of trying a different one , then changing time and location later
[15:10] <amichair> BluesKaj: how do I do that without booting? Or how do I boot manually?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> amichair, oh sorry , I thought you were logged on
[15:13] <amichair> nope, still at the grub prompt
[15:13] <amichair> I'll run chkdsk just in case
[15:15] <BluesKaj> amichair, could be the same prob I have ...dunno how to fix it ..yet
[15:17] <mars____> ja
[15:17] <mars____> somebody
[15:17] <mars____> ls
[15:18] <amichair> BluesKaj: wierd, I ran chkdsk, showed no errors, then tried again and it booted into kubuntu (with a little message about it fixing the windows partition which wasn't closed cleanly or something)...
[15:19] <amichair> so who knows, maybe there was really something bad on disk, or a wubi bug, or an ntfs bug, or a grub bug... but it's working now
[15:23] <BluesKaj> amichair, on wubi ?
[15:23] <amichair> yep
[15:23] <amichair> now it's time to find out all the other stuff that went wrong ;-)
[15:23] <amichair> no sound, for one...
[15:30] <yao_ziyuan> kubuntuers, open a konsole and run 'top',
[15:30] <jonah> hey guys i'm using 64 bit 10.10 and i downloaded vmware player. only when i run it i get an error: "GNU C Compiler (gcc) version 4.4.5 was not found. If you installed it in a non-default path you can specify the path below."
[15:30] <yao_ziyuan> and if your desktop is idle, X is supposed to be the most cpu-demanding process
[15:30] <yao_ziyuan> and how much CPU% does it use?
[15:30] <jonah> chicking kpackage i do have gcc 4.4.5 installed, what do i do?
[15:39] <guerrilha> how do i burn a .vob to dvd with k3b? i gives me an error that it couldnt determine file size. My .vob its a small video 400mb
[15:40] <amichair> jonah: maybe try running 'which gcc' and using the path it gives you
[15:40] <amichair> yao_ziyuan: 0-1%, why?
[15:41] <yao_ziyuan> amichair: i have a kubuntu 9.04 in which 'top' says X uses 6% CPU... and a fedora 13/gnome in which 'top' says X uses 1% CPU...
[15:42] <guerrilha> i got this error in k3b - http://pastebin.com/0274b3H8
[15:42] <amichair> yao_ziyuan: I remember having some X/nvidia problems back then (both memory leaks and cpu), possibly desktop-effects related... is there any chance you can upgrade to a later release?
[15:43] <yao_ziyuan> amichair: my fedora 13 has kde too. will test it now.
[15:43] <yao_ziyuan> amichair: yes i have a ubuntu 10.10 live cd image file. haven't installed though.
[15:54] <nobarking>  whats up with KPackageKit, it found one dependency issue with one package and canceled all my other check marked application for installation
[15:55] <ggfngf> gk
[15:55] <sresu> Where are kubuntu-docs stored?
[15:55] <sresu> Rather where is this package stored?
[15:57] <Riddell> sresu: launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs
[15:59] <sresu> Riddell: Umm... Thanks but I want to know where in my system it got installed?
[15:59] <Riddell> dpkg -L kubuntu-docs
[15:59] <maco> dpkg -L packagename
[16:01] <sresu> Got it. Thanks Riddell, maco
[16:01] <DavidTruby> what has happned to the qt-sdk package in maverick? Has it been renamed or is it just not present any more?
[16:22] <jonah> hey guys, when i try run vmware player it says it needs to compile some stuff, and then i get the error Unable to build kernel module. Can anyone help please. I've tried the patch people have posted on the internet but it doesn't seem to work as it's no longer at the location/link people have used
[16:22] <Peace-> !virtualbox
[16:26] <BluesKaj> jonah, do you have build-essential installed?
[16:29] <maxamillion> random question ... was the ubuntu installer fully ported to Qt4 for Kubuntu?
[16:30] <jonah> has anyone else got vmware player working on 64 bit 10.10?
[16:30] <maco> maxamillion: yes
[16:30] <maxamillion> maco: very nice
[16:30] <maxamillion> maco: thanks for the info! :D
[16:32] <nobarking> is there a way to add user style themes to rekonq?
[16:33] <jonah> hi i disconnected so here's my issue again, when i try run vmware player it says it needs to compile some stuff, and then i get the error Unable to build kernel module. Can anyone help please. I've tried the patch people have posted on the internet but it doesn't seem to work as it's no longer at the location/link people have used
[16:43] <sresu> There used to be an issue about KNetworkManager getting disabled when sleeping system to RAM. Is this resolved with the latest stable release?
[16:44] <fanti> sresu: i just can confirm the issue; don't know if that problem was fixed
[16:46] <sresu> fanti: Oh.. yes. Do you know the bug case number?
[16:46] <fanti> sresu: no.. sorry
[16:46] <sresu> fanti: It certainly got the solution, but was it reported?
[16:46] <sresu> Oh- Ok
[16:48] <sresu> #quassel
[16:53] <rua> hi
[16:53] <darthvader> hi
[16:55] <darthvader> algum brasileiro na sala?
[16:55] <rua> do u have any problem about ati graphic card?
[16:56] <rua> i use ati graphic card on notebook and graphics are too slow
[16:59] <darthvader> rua, i have some trouble like this: my RAM is 6 Gb (2 + 4 Gb), but my kubuntu reconozige just 3 Gb...
[17:02] <rua> how will we solve these problems?
[17:04] <maicol> ciao a tuti
[17:04] <maco> !it
[17:36] <Spoko> hello all
[17:36] <Spoko> i have one very bad problem with kubuntu 10.10
[17:38] <Spoko> i've installed it on my acer aspire one
[17:38] <Spoko> it runs very good on it everything was fine
[17:39] <Spoko> but then i started it without the cable plugged in
[17:39] <Spoko> and plasma-netbook crashed
[17:39] <Spoko> plasma-desktop works fine
[17:39] <Spoko> how can i fix that?
[18:09] <m_tadeu> hi...is there any app for kde that sends an alarm about cpu temperature and/or other alarms
[18:22] <nobarking> bronze: ok thanks!
[18:29] <slow-motion> hi
[18:29] <rork> m_tadeu: ksensors can do that for cpu temperature
[18:30] <m_tadeu> rork: thanx
[18:48] <esmirlin> hello! normally i used gnome, but some days ago i tested kde in my netbook and i liked it so much... the things is that i wanna know if there is an eeepc tray for kde as there's for gnome...
[18:54] <esmirlin> hello! normally i used gnome, but some days ago i tested kde in my netbook and i liked it so much... the things is that i wanna know if there is an eeepc tray for kde as there's for gnome...
[18:56] <rork> esmirlin: what does the tray exactly do?
[18:57] <sriramoman> is there any command for cpu scaling in kubuntu?
[18:57] <esmirlin> rork: http://www.statux.org/content?page=catalog&catagory=1&product=eeepc-tray
[19:02] <rork> esmirlin: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=102944 this is the only thing I can find
[19:02] <rork> have you tried eeepc-tray itself?
[19:03] <esmirlin> rork: yes but it seems not working... and what about ubuntu-tweak on kde? (sorry if i ask so many things... i'm not used to kde :S)
[19:06] <rork> esmirlin: I haven't got any experience with ubuntu-tweak but I assume any none gnome specific tweaks might just work, but maybe have a look at System Settings first
[19:11] <esmirlin> rork: last question... for a netbook with 1Gb RAM kde is too heavy/slow?
[19:14] <rork> esmirlin: I have no idea, they say 386 MB  RAM is minimum so 1GB should be ok I guess.
[19:15] <rork> and please don't address new questions to specific users ;)
[19:15] <esmirlin> ok ill install and then ill be back! thank you very much!!!!!!
[19:15] <rork> you're welcome :)
[19:16] <rork> esmirlin: are you currently on ubuntu?
[19:17] <esmirlin> yes and i gess you'll tell me to install kubuntu-desktop ... but i don't want software mixed :S
[19:18] <rork> hehe, you guessed that right ^^, but I wouldn't want that for my main install either :P
[19:18] <esmirlin> ;)
[19:18] <esmirlin> rork: is it possible if i rest in kubuntu to format the gnome partition¿?
[19:19] <rork> yes, you can use gparted for that
[19:19] <esmirlin> oookis
[19:20] <esmirlin> so see you then!
[19:20] <rork> cya
[20:24] <wilhart> how od i playback matroska or any dvds without flickering while enabling effects
[20:24] <wilhart> kde
[20:24] <wilhart> i have effects in kde and playback gives flickering
[20:25] <Patrick_wslx> hmm ill test that now
[20:25] <Patrick_wslx> no flickering here maybe it's driver related
[20:25] <zanol> anybody from Brazil?
[20:26] <wilhart> hwy!? ubuntu is crap if u cant have effects on and playging videos
[20:27] <Patrick_wslx> well windows shuts off aero when you launch games
[20:28] <Patrick_wslx> i think there should be a way for desktop effects to automatically know when a 3d app is launched to shut down effects in the same mannor
[20:28] <Patrick_wslx> so really its not that bad
[20:28] <Patrick_wslx> what games are you trying to run?
[20:29] <wilhart> Patrick_wslx: just for playbacking movies
[20:30] <Patrick_wslx> woah my bad didn't realize 'videos' there just saw playing and thought games (i was starting up minecraft lol)
[20:30] <Patrick_wslx> yeah ubuntu, like all linux distros, give different performance based on your hardware which is very annoying at times
[20:35] <marcelo> i'm surprise with kubuntu, very very goog...i'm using on a virtualbox
[20:36] <Patrick_wslx> glad to hear marcelo
[20:36] <Patrick_wslx> i've always liked it and have used it as a primary OS for a long time
[20:37] <marcelo> i still use W7, but i'll change soon
[20:37] <13WAALRED> Whenever I want to update my Kubuntu - or better update software lists - it says "Downloading http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick/main Sources (and amd64 Packages) failed: 404 Not Found
[20:37] <Patrick_wslx> I actually like W7 myself. You always have the option for dual boot too
[20:38] <marcelo> i know
[20:38] <Patrick_wslx> sounds like a problem with the server
[20:38] <13WAALRED> hm but "maverick/main" sounds a bit strange to me
[20:39] <Patrick_wslx> a 404 error is the same for any case. It means its having problems communicating with the server
[20:39] <Patrick_wslx> ive had main repos go out on me when trying to sync and update
[20:39] <Patrick_wslx> in the past with previous ubuntu releases
[20:40] <13WAALRED> 404 looks more like the file just does not exist on that server or under that path?
[20:40] <BajK___> why tghe hell am i called 13waalred?! o.O
[20:40] <BajK___> but I looked up the sofware list, there are no repos that might cause errors
[20:40] <BajK___> and none of the stated ones
[20:41] <BajK___> those have to be th eofficial ones
[20:41] <Patrick_wslx> possibly that as well. It's a general communication error
[20:41] <Patrick_wslx> maybe the path will be fixed later lol
[20:42] <Patrick_wslx> I have Lucid so I cant check if im having the same issues
[20:42] <Patrick_wslx> well i could actuallyl
[20:42] <rua> right click of the mouse doesn't work at terminal
[20:42] <Patrick_wslx> lol
[20:42] <rua> how can i fix it?
[20:43] <BajK___> and apt-get update states that the arduino packages are the cause
[20:43] <BajK___> i'll just deactivate them
[20:43] <Patrick_wslx> what is the actual output?
[20:43] <BajK___> Patrick_wslx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/517636/ :D
[20:44] <BajK___> now it's no longer arduino but "W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://ppa.launchpad.net/arduino-ubuntu-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[20:44] <BajK___> "
[20:45] <Patrick_wslx> false link i guess
[20:55] <Patrick_wslx> btw rua i'm not sure. Are you using Konsole?
[20:55] <rua> yes
[20:56] <rua> xterm
[20:57] <Patrick_wslx> oh idk how to get it to work in xterm
[21:01] <Jamoris> is there anyway to edith the default Auto eth0 connection? like in gnome? I can't  connect to my dsl connection in kde since 10.10. it's killing me
[21:03] <Jamoris> anyone succesfuly made a dsl (bridge) connection in 10.10?
[21:07] <Jamoris> whay Auto eth0 is not visible/editable in kde? how can I edit it?
[21:12] <Jamoris> how can I install network-manager-gnome in kubuntu, while I don't have a working connection in kubuntu? is there anyway to download the dependencies from another system?
[21:14] <Patrick_wslx> yes
[21:14] <Patrick_wslx> you can google the .deb
[21:14] <Patrick_wslx> download it, and put it on the kubuntu system
[21:14] <Patrick_wslx> as well as the dependencies
[21:17] <Jamoris> Patrick_wslx: but it has so many dependencies, and you should download it one by one, it's impossible to do it manually
[21:17] <Patrick_wslx> oh yeah because you're running kde and it has gnome deps lol
[21:17] <Patrick_wslx> sorry
[21:18] <Patrick_wslx> Are you sure you cant configure your settings in knetworkmanager
[21:18] <Patrick_wslx> as you did in gnome?
[21:20] <Jamoris> Patrick_wslx: yes, I can do that in chakra, and could do that in kubuntu 10.04 too, but not in 10.10. in gnome I just disable connect automatically for Auto eth0 and then I can connect with my dsl connection but in kde the Auto eth0 is not visible
[21:22] <avihay> wow, first time in a few months that I let KpackageKit to update my system, and it doesn't crash and burn like the hack-job it must be to be this poor
[21:23] <Patrick_wslx> hmm not sure because I run 10.04
[21:28] <Jamoris> Patrick_wslx: it is really killing me, I did a fresh install and now can't install anything on it so have to be on chakra for a while. thanks for answering anyway
[21:28] <Patrick_wslx> yeah I would post this on ubuntuforums in networking asap. Sorry I couldn't help you/
[21:32] <Jamoris> Patrick_wslx: thanks alot
[21:35] <Patrick_wslx> you're welcome
[21:51] <marcel> nabend
[21:51] <rork_> evening
[21:51] <rork_> !de
[23:17] <Yankefish> hey can someone help me, i have na hp a350n, my front usb's will not work,my floppy is working though
[23:49] <nick> hello guys
[23:49] <Guest97700> anyone available for some questions?
[23:52] <Nick_thess> I wanted to ask something about kubuntu for mobile phones (arm), if anyone can help me please let me know...


[00:09] <xivulon> evand is anything in particular holding back the release of the new lupin hardy?
[00:15] <evand> lupin 0.19 is in hardy-proposed.
[00:22] <xivulon> evand does that mean that it is on the ISO? from the manifest it looks like 16 is in there.
[00:23] <evand> What ISO?  Are the 8.04.1 CDs being generated somewhere now?
[00:24] <xivulon> yep they are in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/hardy/daily-live/
[00:26] <xivulon> and most things relevant to wubi seems to be in :)
[00:26] <xivulon> except casper/autopartition-loop/lupin
[00:31] <evand> hrm, not sure
[01:37] <compbrain> cjwatson: One last question for the day, Sometime last year you recommended I preseed a call to `debconf-set partman-auto/disk` so I could determine if a machine had a disk at /dev/sda or /dev/hda. Do you know what stage I would have called that? an early command is too early as disk drivers haven't loaded and such
[01:38]  * compbrain fails searching irclogs.u.c
[01:40] <cjwatson> compbrain: I might have suggested that you write out a partman auto.d script; nowadays it would actually be in /lib/partman/display.d/00local or something like that
[01:40] <cjwatson> doing that on the fly in partman/early_command
[01:41] <compbrain> partman/early_command is probably what I was looking for.
[01:41] <cjwatson> err, preseed/early_command I mean
[01:41] <compbrain> oh :d
[01:41] <cjwatson> there's no partman/early_command (maybe there should be!), that was a typo
[01:42] <compbrain> I ended up with a 2 line bash script ( [ -b /dev/sda ] && debconf-set ....)
[01:42] <compbrain> But I can't figure where I would have called that from where disks would have been detected but not partitioned
[01:43] <cjwatson> /lib/partman/display.d/00local would be suitable
[01:43] <cjwatson> it's awkward at the moment, you have to write that script out dynamically from preseed/early_command
[01:43] <cjwatson> anywhere else, you're relying on luck at best
[01:44] <cjwatson> perhaps you could file a bug on partman-base to ask for a preseeding hook there?
[01:46] <compbrain> In theory I can pipe some commands into that file, and they are executed prior to partmans logic, yes?
[01:46] <compbrain> Yea, i'll do that.
[01:47] <cjwatson> right
[01:47] <compbrain> Groovy
[01:51] <compbrain> #239348 filed
[01:55] <cjwatson> ta
[02:03] <compbrain> Giving this a whirl.
[02:29] <compbrain> Everything looks good, except it didn't want to purge the old lvm volume..
[04:21] <compbrain> Everything looks groovy. Thanks again cjwatson.
[06:02] <superm1> compbrain, alternatively if you know that your systems would support EDD, you can also pass edd=on on the kernel command line, and then use the EDD symlink made in /dev/disk/by-id instead of hda/sda
[06:07] <compbrain> EDD? I can't seem to expand that acronym
[06:08] <superm1> http://linux.dell.com/projects.shtml#edd
[06:09] <compbrain> ahh, ok. Thanks.
[06:09] <superm1> i'm not sure of your particular situation whether all machines you are working on will support it
[06:10] <superm1> if so, its a very useful technology for install time decisions like that
[06:10] <compbrain> I ended needing to add in a workaround in grub as well. Some of the machines i'm installing to have 6 internal disks, the installer tries setting up grub with root=hd(4,0) or something crazy like that.
[06:11] <superm1> yeah cjwatson added a patch for grub that adds EDD support to that too
[06:11] <superm1> so it can more intelligently decide on disks
[06:11] <compbrain> I'm going with the knowledge that the 100G disk in the system is the boot disk connected to the motherboard directly, install/boot from that
[06:12] <compbrain> [open /proc/partitions, sort by device size, excluding zero sized devices, pick the smallest and install to it] (all the other drives are 500G or larger)
[06:12] <superm1> geez that sounds like a hack.  what happens when you start to ship 120GB drives because the stock of 100GB drives runs out :)
[06:12] <superm1> ah
[06:13] <compbrain> hack, yeah. But some of this hardware is old, pre edd-capable iirc
[06:13] <superm1> as a more long term solution you may consider to investigate if EDD does a better job for you then.  hacks like that unfortunately don't always work forever :)
[06:13] <superm1> ah
[06:13] <compbrain> in this particular case i've got 5 machines of the same model, but with different disk configurations
[07:15] <ganes> cjwatson, please help to boot the by setting boot=casper in isolinux.cfg file
[07:23] <cjwatson> ganes: not without more information from you; you've asked this question at least five times now here (I mostly happened not to be here at the time), and so far haven't provided any real information on what's going wrong
[07:24] <cjwatson> I'm about to get on a train, so what you need to do is (a) provide a clear and detailed description of what you've changed and what symptoms you are seeing, (b) stick around rather than leaving
[07:24] <ganes> cjwatson, i customised the filesystem according to my need , but the cd is not bootng , the package casper is persent in the build cd but not booting after the creation of live cd
[07:25] <ganes> cjwatson, while booting i checked the casper.log file "unable to find the filesytem "
[07:26] <ganes> cjwatson, this is the log message i am getting
[07:45] <compbrain> ganes: Perhaps you can prepare a bug report detailing your setup and include the logs on launchpad
[07:46] <superm1> ganes, did you make sure that your live disk contained the .disk directory still and that the initrd contained the same UUID as the one in the .disk directory?
[07:46] <superm1> that is how it finds the matching live filesystem to use when booting casper
[07:47] <ganes> superm1, where is this .disk tell me the location & i will check
[07:47] <superm1> it is supposed to be in the root of your CD
[07:48] <superm1> it's very easily missed (as it's a hidden directory) when you are copying the contents of a CD over to customize
[07:48] <ganes> superm1, if not there what i have to do
[07:48] <superm1> ganes, redo your customizations to include it again
[07:48] <ganes> superm1, from where i have to copy
[07:48] <superm1> it's in the root of every functional live CD
[07:49] <superm1> it has to come from the same CD that you got the matching initrd however
[07:49] <ganes> superm1, ok thanks & i do the customisation & come back
[07:49] <superm1> as there is a UUID stored in both
[07:50] <ganes> superm1, store in both means one is at root dir & where the other one
[07:50] <superm1> casper/initrd.gz
[07:50] <superm1> there is a UUID inside that file
[07:50] <superm1> so if you customized your initrd at all, you will need to make sure the UUID in .disk/ and in that initrd match
[07:51] <ganes> superm1, as a .disk file inside the initrd
[07:51] <superm1> ganes, its actually a flat file inside the initrd.  the exact naming of it escapes me right now
[07:52] <superm1> there is a flat file in .disk as well, usually something like casper-uuid-generic
[07:52] <superm1> or something like that
[07:52] <ganes> superm1, ya i customised the initrd but i didnt see any .disk file there
[07:52] <ganes> ok
[07:53] <superm1> ganes, if you look at the casper package, there is a script included with it
[07:53] <superm1> casper-new-uuid
[07:53] <superm1> it's used to make a UUID in the initrd and a matching one for the .disk directory
[07:53] <superm1> you may end up needing to do that
[07:54] <ganes> ok thanks
[07:59] <ganes> superm1, i have the filesystem in one partition there if i install casper it is updating the initrd but not the partition itself not booting for that above thing is applicable
[08:00] <ganes> superm1, i have the filesystem in one partition there if i install casper it is updating the initrd but the partition itself not booting for that above thing is applicable
[08:04] <superm1> ganes, if you are replacing the initrd on the live disk, you have to ensure that the .disk/casper-uuid-generic file gets updated to that same UUID no matter what the circumstance
[08:11] <ganes> superm1, thank you very much
[08:11] <superm1> no prob. hope you can sort it all out :)
[10:23] <CIA-1> pkgsel: cjwatson * r104 ubuntu/ (9 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.20
[10:26] <CIA-1> pkgsel: cjwatson * r105 ubuntu/debian/po/ (am.po mr.po): msgmerge
[10:35] <CIA-1> pkgsel: cjwatson * r106 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.20ubuntu1
[10:40] <tjaalton> don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'm trying to make an usplash theme to only output text and not use any throbber at all
[10:41] <tjaalton> but haven't figured out how to do that
[10:47] <tjaalton> which button should show the text, btw? I tried everything
[10:53] <xivulon> cjwatson re #235518, the original bug report was due to something else, and I am not aware of other issues, do you still wish the fix to be in the point release?
[10:53] <ganes> superm1, there is no any file with the name .disk i checked under the folder /root
[10:54] <cjwatson> ganes: it should be in the CD root, *not* in the initramfs
[10:55] <ganes> cjwatson, i boot into the feisty version ubuntu & checked the file
[10:55] <ganes> cjwatson, its not there
[10:55] <cjwatson> xivulon: well, does it go wrong in a simple non-English install test (say German)? if so, the fix should be included; if not, save it for intrepid
[10:55] <cjwatson> ganes: the CD root is not /root
[10:56] <cjwatson> the CD root == the .iso contents
[10:56] <cjwatson> typically on /cdrom
[10:56] <cjwatson> and I am absolutely certain that it has been present since Ubuntu began
[10:56] <ganes> cjwatson, it mount the cd iso image
[10:56] <ganes> cjwatson, ok
[10:57] <cjwatson> if you aren't finding it on a standard Ubuntu image, you're looking in the wrong place
[10:57] <ganes> cjwatson, no i booted & checked the file ., ok i do as you said now
[10:58] <cjwatson> checked *which* file?
[10:58] <cjwatson> if you're looking under /root as you said above, that's the wrong place.
[10:58] <ganes> cjwatson, ok
[11:01] <ganes> cjwatson, yeah its there ., where i have to paste this file in initrd
[11:01] <cjwatson> it MUST NOT BE IN THE INITRD
[11:01] <cjwatson> it belongs in the .iso contents
[11:02] <ganes> cjwatson, then what is the use of this file for me
[11:02] <cjwatson> /cdrom/.disk/casper-uuid* needs to match /conf/uuid.conf in the initrd
[11:03] <ganes> cjwatson, if this both get match will the cd boot by casper
[11:03] <cjwatson> yes
[11:03] <ganes> ok
[11:04] <cjwatson> the purpose is to ensure that if you copy a live CD to a partition on the hard disk, then booting a different live CD will actually boot the right thing
[11:05] <ganes> cjwatson, i copied the filesystem to hardisk & update the initrd file by installing my own squashfs & aufs ... after updating the initrd the system is not booting
[11:06] <ganes> cjwatson, reason for customisation is want to remove the usplash & i want to make it as bootsplash
[11:15] <tjaalton> umm, does the usplash in hardy support usplash_write at all?
[11:16] <tjaalton> usplash-test.sh doesn't output any text
[12:44] <xivulon> cjwatson: I haven't tested with german installations but I haven't seen any complaints either.
[12:44] <xivulon> I believe that evand did a few french installations...
[12:44] <xivulon> evand did you notice any issue re 235518?
[13:04] <ganes> cjwatson, if i boot with casper i am getting the error as follows "mounting /dev/loop* on /filesystem.squashfs cannot mount /dev/loop* on /cdrom/casper
[14:09] <evand> xivulon: Wubi installs have never failed for me because of the language selection (Spanish and French XP Pro).  I verified the French XP Home bug by modifying os-prober to output the same text.
[14:09] <evand> So I imagine the fix should be saved for Intrepid.
[14:09] <evand> But lets see how the new 8.04.1 CDs work for others.
[14:16] <xivulon> I have done then with the wubi changes
[14:17] <xivulon> I have a new branch since I did a fiew turnarounds and wanted a cleaner slate
[14:17] <xivulon> I am inclined to rename hardy -> trunk and save there the new changes
[14:18] <xivulon> once the other packages mentioned yesterday hit the iso we can start testing
[14:20] <xivulon> on second though I might keep the hardy name since the intrepid one will be basically a rewrite
[18:05] <CIA-1> ubiquity: evand * r2690 ubiquity/debian/po/pt_BR.po: Fix a pt_BR translation issue by hand; translation team notified.
[18:07] <CIA-1> ubiquity: evand * r2691 ubiquity/debian/po/pt_BR.po: Ugh. Proper fix for the above change.