[00:01] <spm> dickelbeck: that re-build of the archives is underway as we speak; give it a few minutes....
[00:01] <dickelbeck> cool
[00:03] <spm> dickelbeck: and done; I noted yesterday that your browser may cache; so refresh to verify?
[00:03] <dickelbeck> spm: the launchpad webpages say that all maillists are archived at http://mail-archive.com/
[00:03] <dickelbeck> anything special I need to do to get all old postings in there, or is that even possible?
[00:04] <spm> ahh. good Q. no idea. you can see our copy here: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers ? which is what I've just updated.
[00:04] <spm> i suspect you'll need to contact the mail-archive folks directly?
[00:05] <dickelbeck> spm: at first glance I think we have a winner on the import. thanks again for your help.
[00:05] <spm> \o/
[00:06] <dickelbeck> spm: there is nothing blocking usage of the list then, I can sound the bells and bring in the stampede?
[00:07] <spm> dickelbeck: shouldn't be. (fingers crossed, touching wood etc...) :-)
[00:07] <dickelbeck> one of my guys tested it this AM, and I got a message from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:07] <dickelbeck> did not know what bounces in that email was indicating
[00:08] <spm> dickelbeck: actually - trial a test message and verify it winds up on the archive; it should be near as instant
[00:08] <wgrant> It's to let mailman detect if an address is repeatedly bouncing.
[00:08] <dickelbeck> not a configuration problem then?
[00:08] <wgrant> No.
[00:09] <dickelbeck> wgrant: will all email from the list have that in the "sender" then?
[00:11] <wgrant> dickelbeck: Looks like it. But why it should be in Sender I do not know -- I would have thought that Return-Path would be the important one.
[00:19] <dickelbeck> spm & wgrant: the new list seems to work OK, messages I send there come to my inbox without the "bounces" in the "sender", although they do not even show the "sender".
[00:19] <dickelbeck> so I am going to announce to the old list to come join.  Thanks again for all your help spm!
[00:20] <spm> dickelbeck: excellent; np!
[00:21] <wgrant> Excellent.
[01:49] <cody-somerville> how odd, if you put double slashes in your branch URI it'll say no such branch exists (at least when accessing branches on launchpad).
[01:49] <cody-somerville> ie .lp:~moo/foo//test will fail
[01:49] <wgrant> There was a bug filed overnight about double-slashed lp: branch alias requests hanging bzr.
[01:57] <lifeless> entertaining but not surprising
[01:58] <lifeless> foo/bar and foo//bar are not the same url
[01:59] <wgrant> They are the same path, though.
[01:59] <lifeless> in a local fs, sure
[02:01] <cody-somerville> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~moo/foo//test/".
[02:01] <cody-somerville> lifeless, regardless, we're not git. It should Just Work (TM). :P
[02:06] <lifeless> cody-somerville: uhm, perhaps. OTOH first report of this in 5 years, I don't think its a high frequency issue at all.
[02:06] <lifeless> and normalising urls can do bad things if some has a 'clever' server setup.
[02:11] <james_w> lifeless: first report in 5 years, or second report in 5 hours :-)
[02:12] <lifeless> james_w: well
[02:12] <lifeless> both :)
[02:12] <lifeless> I mean, whatever has changed is a problem
[02:12] <lifeless> so we should figure that out
[02:14] <cody-somerville> lol
[08:53] <rdb> I need some help regarding anonymous API access (non-launchpadlib).
[08:53] <rdb> I'm told that I should pass an empty string for the auth token and secrt.
[08:54] <rdb> I'm not sure where though. To +request-token? To +auth-token?
[08:54] <rdb> access-token*
[08:55] <rdb> Or shouldn't I access +request-token/+access-token at all?
[08:55] <wgrant> rdb: Neither.
[08:56] <rdb> Oh.
[08:56] <wgrant> You could just say https://api.edge.launchpad.net/devel/ubuntu?oauth_consumer_key=foo&oauth_token=
[08:56] <rdb> Aah.
[08:57] <rdb> So I was thinking way too hard about this.
[08:57] <rdb> Thanks. :D
[08:57] <wgrant> Yep.
[08:57]  * rdb ditches 100 lines of PHP code
[08:57] <wgrant> Hahah.
[08:57] <noodles775> wgrant: Hi! Did you mean for build_state/status to be on BuildFarmJob at http://people.ubuntu.com/~wgrant/launchpad/buildfarm/new-build-model.png
[08:58] <noodles775> Also, I'm not sure what you were meaning by 'result' on the same table.
[08:58] <wgrant> noodles775: Yes no maybe handwave handwave.
[08:58] <noodles775> lol
[08:58] <wgrant> See the Unresolved Issue™
[08:58] <wgrant> I don't have a solution to result field placement yet.
[08:59] <wgrant> Do you have any ideas?
[08:59] <noodles775> Ah right. OK, so for the moment I'll include the state there and we'll see what develops (I'm just doing an initial schema change to see how big it is).
[08:59] <rww> Hi! When I commit something to Launchpad with bzr, it doesn't get linked to my Launchpad account. I imagine there's some bzr command I need to do?
[08:59] <wgrant> rww: bzr whoami "First Last <email@address>"
[09:00] <noodles775> wgrant: as I said, I'm not sure what you meant by result? I mean, it's not the BPR/SPR, and the log is already there...
[09:00] <rww> wgrant: email@address being the same one that's attached to my LP account, I assume?
[09:01] <wgrant> noodles775: It was probably me playing with keeping status and result separate. Like at the moment we have Job.status, and Build.buildstate is used mostly to indicate the result, and is type-specific.
[09:01] <noodles775> I see.
[09:01] <wgrant> But Job.status is what we look at to determine candidates.
[09:01] <wgrant> rww: Any one of those attached to your Launchpad account, yeah.
[09:02] <noodles775> OK, so for the moment I think it makes sense for it to be subsumed by BuildStatus.PENDING? (as we won't have a job record etc.), and pending will at-least be common to all jobs.
[09:03] <wgrant> noodles775: I guess.
[09:04] <wgrant> But we should allow for job types to have their own build statuses. Most make no sense for translation jobs, for example.
[09:05] <noodles775> wgrant: but a subset of BuildStatus does make sense for translation jobs right? (PENDING, FULLYBUILT, etc)
[09:05] <wgrant> noodles775: Right.
[09:05] <wgrant> noodles775: For all job types we have (WAITING, BUILDING, BUILT)
[09:06] <wgrant> For most we can split BUILT into (SUCCESSFUL, FAILED)
[09:06] <wgrant> For builds we can further split FAILED into DEPWAIT, CHROOTWAIT, FAILEDTOBUILD, FAILEDTOUPLOAD
[09:08] <noodles775> Yep, so it looks like it's worth factoring to a general BuildFarmJob.status, and then other build types can provide their own custom statuses. hrm.
[09:08] <wgrant> Here is my dilemma.
[09:09] <noodles775> For the moment, it would be *easier* refactoring-wise, to just use the current BuildStatus and ensure that each type is satisfied by a subset.
[09:09] <noodles775> But whether it's the best refactoring path is another question.
[09:10]  * noodles775 should have started this conversation on lp-dev.
[09:10] <rdb> I somehow can't find a way in the 1.0 API to get the blueprints for a project. Am I blind or missing something?
[09:10] <wgrant> rdb: Blueprints aren't exposed through the API yet.
[09:10] <rdb> o_O
[09:10] <rdb> You're kidding, I hope?
[09:11] <wgrant> sadly not.
[09:11] <rdb> Bah! BAH!
[09:11] <wgrant> When in doubt, check https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc
[09:11] <rdb> I am looking in it, thats why I asked why I couldn't find blueprints
[09:11] <rdb> Is it planned anytime soon?
[09:12] <wgrant> Blueprint has no active developers. So it would be up to a community developer.
[09:12] <rdb> I kind of relied on it to be available. :-/ I could of course just http get the blueprints page and parse it, but using the API would be a lot better.
[09:12] <rdb> Uh, could I volunteer?
[09:13] <rdb> I wouldn't have that much time to work on it, but it's a feature I need soon.
[09:13] <wgrant> rdb: Of course.
[09:13] <wgrant> read-only access should not be difficult.
[09:13] <rdb> wgrant, https://code.launchpad.net/~ajmitch/launchpad/blueprint-api
[09:13] <wgrant> Write access is harder, though.
[09:13] <wgrant> Ah, yes, forgot ajmitch was working on it a while ago.
[09:13] <rdb> It seems "in progress"
[09:13] <rdb> Yeah, I just need read access
[09:14] <rdb> I just need to be able to get a listing of blueprints and most important information
[09:15] <wgrant> rdb: I might point you at the last commit dates on that branch.
[09:15] <rdb> I noticed.
[09:15] <rdb> December... buh.
[09:15] <rdb> ajmitch, ping
[09:16] <rdb> wgrant, looks like jml also worked on something, that was rejected for merging into devel
[09:17] <wgrant> jml: Do you recall why your blueprint exposition branch was rejected?
[09:17] <wgrant> There is no comment.
[09:18] <rdb> Aa, wait, I see that jml's branch was merged into ajmitch's branch
[10:22] <jml> wgrant, rdb: I rejected my branch
[10:22] <jml> because it was done at UDS to demonstrate a thing, and I couldn't be bothered making it ready to land
[10:22] <rdb> Ah, OK.
[12:07] <om26er> I have not received any bug email for an hour, is the update responsible?
[12:11] <wgrant> om26er: Probably. Cron jobs like the bug notification sender are generally turned off a little earlier than the actual rollout.
[12:13] <om26er> wgrant, If I do some work on any bug report will the reporter and subscribers be notified after lp is out of read only?
[12:14] <wgrant> om26er: Yes.
[12:14] <wgrant> The notifications will be queued in the DB, and sent once the cron job is switched back on.
[12:14] <om26er> wgrant, thanks alot :-)
[13:54] <deryck> adding an hour to LP downtime.  Sorry.
[13:54] <humphreybc> WAH
[13:54] <deryck> I know.  it sucks. :(
[13:55] <humphreybc> 12 hours before UMP releases beta, writing freeze and quickshot! =O
[13:55] <humphreybc> these fixes better be worthwhile :P
[14:17] <rdb> Is the blueprint support just missing from the API, or is it also missing from launchpadlib?
[14:17] <beuno> rdb, both, AFAIK
[14:17] <rdb> Oh, darn. Well, thanks.
[15:07] <Daviey> Hi.. How can a project be re-assigned the maintainer from ~registry to a different tea,
[15:07] <Daviey> It used to be owned by a team, but i think that team was deleted as it was surplus.
[15:10] <Daviey> (I've found the answer, thanks)
[15:26] <keffie_jayx> hello all, Can anyone point me to doc on how to disable edge redirection?
[15:28] <Hobbsee> launchpad.net, and hit the button
[15:33] <keffie_jayx> Hobbsee: I am pretty sure i couldn't find the button yesterday. I know it, it's in a blue box. I will wait till 10.03 is rolled out and try then. thanks
[15:33] <Hobbsee> keffie_jayx: oh.  that's what the usual solution is, but i've not tried it recently
[15:34] <tsimpson> keffie_jayx: there is also a green link in the bottom right of every edge page called "Disable edge redirect."
[15:34] <tsimpson> just above the copyright stuff
[15:35] <keffie_jayx> tsimpson: mm ok, let me try that. Thanks
[15:59] <radix> is there a way to see all PPAs with a particular package name?
[16:01] <noodles775> radix: have you tried https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[16:02] <radix> nope
[16:02] <Daviey> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=PACKAGENAME
[16:03] <sinzui> radix: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktopcouch has a list of ppas
[16:03] <radix> ok... I guess I'll have to click on each one to see if it has the package I want
[16:03] <radix> I'm basically looking for a stable build of thunderbird 3
[16:04] <mdz> I'm getting email from LP about comments being imported to some VERY old bugs
[16:04] <sinzui> radix: I see 3 ppas https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird
[16:04] <noodles775> radix: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ppa ?
[16:04] <noodles775> radix: ah, v3. Sorry.
[16:05] <sinzui> mdz: allenap: is checkwatches trying to get the backlog comments on bugs?
[16:05] <noodles775> radix: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa is probably what you want.
[16:05] <radix> noodles775: I saw that, but the "daily" scared me
[16:05] <radix> noodles775: I just want the released version of thunderbird 3
[16:06] <allenap> sinzui, mdz: That sounds like good news, believe it or not. It means that it's actually doing *something* :)
[16:06] <mdz> allenap, good news for some, maybe, but not for someone who is attached to a lot of bugs over the past 5 years ;-)
[16:07] <allenap> mdz: I'm sorry about that. I'll try and see if there's a way to alleviate it. To be honest, the answer is probably: not before it's caught up already. However, if it's really disruptive, we can shut down that process until we have a fix.
[16:08] <mdz> allenap, "only" 5 emails so far
[16:09] <mdz> with 4-digit bug numbers
[17:14] <chrisccoulson> is there anything you can do about bug 13661? it seems that a users mail address keeps bouncing mails back
[17:15] <sinzui> chrisccoulson: A request is already made. I assigned the issue to an admin
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> sinzui, thanks
[17:17] <danopia> hey, where can i see the build queue? mainly so i know when lucid packages are stable again
[17:17] <danopia> stabler8
[17:19] <sinzui> danopia: do you mean https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+builds which is linked from the ubuntu/lucid page?
[17:20] <bigjools> danopia: http://launchpad.net/builders
[17:20] <danopia> sinzui, if it listed queued and still building (i.e. not done yet) then i'd like it
[17:20] <danopia> bigjools, that's not lucid-specific and i can't see how many more lucid packages are ququed
[17:21] <danopia> i'm just waiting for packages to be built so i can upgrade my system from 9.10
[17:21] <bigjools> danopia: ok, then use the filter on the page that sinzui posted
[17:21] <danopia> "Currently building" and "Needs buildilng" together would be nice
[17:28] <danopia> sinzui, thanks, and put a word in somewhere that i'd like to filter by more than one state at a time :P
[17:28] <sinzui> that may already be reported in bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz
[17:29] <bigjools> patches welcome
[17:46] <FFForever> what are the requirements to run launchpad?, I have a small vps ~4gb and 256mb of ram think it would work?
[17:47] <Daviey> FFForever: If that is a serious question.. No.
[17:48] <FFForever> It was..., what would I have to upgrade to, to get it working?, 512mb of ram?
[17:49] <azop> Why do you want to run your own launchpad?
[17:49] <FFForever> Because to my knowledge launchpad does not allow private repositories for commercial work
[17:49] <azop> We paid for a commercial launchpad account.
[17:49] <danopia> what features do you want? there are other options
[17:49] <FFForever> how much are they?
[17:50] <FFForever> I mainly want git control/bug tracking/time tracking if possible?
[17:50] <azop> It's a nominal fee
[17:50] <azop> As far as I'm aware that's supported in the commercial account
[17:51] <azop> Subject: Canonical shop: Purchase of Launchpad Commercial Subscription (12 months, Basic)
[17:51] <azop> It's easy :)
[17:51] <maxb> time tracking? I dont think so
[17:51] <maxb> And what do you mean by "git control"
[17:52] <FFForever> web browsing and user management without configuring everything manually like I am now
[17:52] <maxb> FFForever: The requirements to run Launchpad include first replacing all the image files, which canonical does not license for use by others.
[17:52] <maxb> Which is a pain
[17:52] <danopia> i don't think that launchpad does much more with git other than mirror it
[17:53] <FFForever> maxb, joy
[17:53] <danopia> wth, there's a "media adapter" at <IP_ADDRESS> called Microsoft Corpora?tion - ”þðÔ?”7Ä
[17:54] <danopia> anyway.
[17:54] <danopia> FFForever, do you mean you want to use git instead of bzr?
[17:57] <azop> FFForever-Away: I would seriously look at paying the fee to Canonical for a launchpad account and look at an external program to log dev time
[17:57] <azop> we use Redmine, but I don't believe the redmine -> lp tool is finished
[17:59] <danopia> i'm writing a system that does what you want but 1) it's not finished 2) i don't support private repos on the main instance because of the nature of how the system interacts with itself
[18:12] <zyga> azop: what are you using in redmine
[18:12] <zyga> azop: I'm deploying redmine where I currently work
[18:12] <danopia> zyga, "in redmine"?
[18:12] <zyga> azop: time tracking is what we're also using
[18:12] <zyga> yes
[18:12] <danopia> oh
[18:12] <zyga> actually redmine + bzr
[18:13] <danopia> it has nice time tracking but we never used it, since the project i used redmine with was largely for when we were bored
[18:13] <zyga> I see
[18:13] <zyga> that reminds me I have to push some redmine patches before I switch my job next month
[18:15] <azop> zyga: we are using it on improve.bluecherrydvr.com
[18:15] <azop> though we aren't effectively using the time tracking, but it's available
[18:16] <zyga> azop: any major deployment issues if I may ask?
[18:16] <zyga> are you using any plugins?
[18:16] <azop> zyga: not really, we are using the older branch and we haven't moved to .90
[18:16] <zyga> I see
[18:18] <azop> zyga: we aren't using any plugins currently.  One of our developers was looking at lp + redmine
[18:18] <azop> so apport reports could be moved from lp to redmine and such, but it hasn't gotten started yet
[18:20] <zyga> apport, why?
[18:20] <zyga> crash tracking?
[18:20] <azop> zyga: yes
[18:20] <zyga> why move to redmine?
[18:21] <azop> redmine has been in place for a year, we haven't done anything useful yet with our LP account :P
[18:22] <danopia> on group i'm with only uses lp for a mailing list :P
[18:40] <nigelb> once i start a project, I can't rename it on my own?
[18:41] <nigelb> the project's link is now https://launchpad.net/acceptindia can I change the acceptindia part?
[18:43] <nigelb> sinzui, ^
[18:45] <sinzui> nigelb, ask a question at https://launchpad.net/launchpad-registry
[18:45] <sinzui> nigelb, an admin can rename it
[18:46] <nigelb> ah, thank you :)
[18:48] <BlackZ> are there any problems with translations.edge.launchpad.net ? I can't let a new or another translation suggestion for some strings
[18:51] <sinzui> BlackZ, danilos, has the rules for suggestions changed?
[18:52] <BlackZ> sinzui: nope, I can let new or another translation suggestions with others translation templates
[18:52] <danilos> BlackZ, sinzui: they should not have changed, but there is a problem when someone tries to reactivate the existing, discarded suggestion
[18:53] <danilos> BlackZ, can you point me at a page where this happens?
[18:55] <BlackZ> danilos: sure, https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/xz-utils/+pots/xz/it/+translate?start=0 string no. #55 is an example
[19:01] <danilos> BlackZ, I am not sure exactly what's going on, can you please file a bug and we'll look into it
[19:02] <BlackZ> danilos: sure, I will ! I will look if there's already a bug open too (?)
[19:03] <danilos> BlackZ, btw, can you paste me what string are you trying to translate as? and are you an Italian reviewer or a translator?
[19:03] <danilos> BlackZ, (i.e. what translation are you trying to use)
[19:03] <danilos> BlackZ, and thanks :) shorthand for filing a bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+filebug :)
[19:04] <danilos> BlackZ, actually, I don't think it's a bug in rosetta
[19:04] <danilos> BlackZ, it seems it's a problem with c-format flag on a message that needs no such flag
[19:04] <BlackZ> danilos: translator
[19:05] <danilos> xz-utils has a bug in the template, you can see how rosetta highlights "% o" for you, and expects to find it in the translation as well
[19:06] <BlackZ> danilos: ok, so I think it's a bug in xz-utils translation template, as you said
[19:06] <danilos> BlackZ, right, so please file a bug on the package and create an ubuntu-translations bugtask as well :)
[19:06] <danilos> BlackZ, using "also affects project" (the guys in ubuntu-translations will make sure it's fixed sooner rather than later)
[19:07] <BlackZ> danilos: yes, I know how to do, thanks !
[19:14] <danilos> cheers
[19:54] <sebner> LP is quite b0rken. I guess the update went wrong. Adding a comment to a project on LP give me this error: (sorry, bad formating), http://pastebin.com/2nw2UmTk
[19:58] <james_w> sebner: do you block referrers?
[19:59] <sebner> james_w: I don't know what the hell is going on ..
[19:59] <sebner> james_w: in other words: I can remember doing anything causing this
[20:08] <geser> the bug comment importer seems to be nice, but does it really have to import comments for bugs closed years ago?
[20:21] <sinzui> sebner, your browser is not sending REFERER header. plugin guarding your privacy may be doing that for you
[20:22] <sinzui> sebner, launchpad is now requiring the REFERER header to prevent certain kinds of attacks.
[20:22] <sebner> sinzui: I googled and found a tutorial for enabling referers (firefox, about:config) but if I restart firefox it gets reset to disabled O_o
[20:23] <sinzui> hmm
[20:23] <sinzui> sebner, firefox like all browser do send the referer header by default. I think something like an addon is disabling it
[20:25] <sebner> sinzui: trying
[20:26] <sebner> sinzui: disabled everything, no luck. trying with a clean new profile
[20:29] <sebner> sinzui: yeah, working. seems my default firefox profile is totally b0rken
[20:29] <sinzui> sebner, do you have any extensions installed?
[20:30] <sinzui> sebner, the -p option disabled extensions, so the profile is clean and so to is the browser setup
[20:30] <sebner> sinzui: yeah, some but I tried with all of them disabled too and I didn't instal any extension the last few weeks. wondering what has happened
[20:31]  * sinzui shugs
[20:33] <sebner> sinzui: nightly-tools! grrrrrr
[20:48] <Penguin> I figured out how to make deb packages, but I've got no idea how to update them using .diff files (if that is, indeed, what you use). Can anyone give me some info' please?
[20:49] <barry> hello ppa experts!  i just dput a updated package to my ppa but i used the wrong url: dput ppa:barry/ppa computer-janitor_2.0-0ubuntu4_source.changes
[20:49] <barry> i meant to use ppa:barry/python, but now launchpad won't let me dput to the correct ppa
[20:49] <barry> Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[20:49] <barry> Nothing more to do for computer-janitor_2.0-0ubuntu4_source.changes
[20:49] <barry>
[20:49] <barry> what's the best way to fix this?
[20:50] <james_w> barry: that's not LP telling you that
[20:50] <james_w> use -f with dput
[20:50] <barry> james_w: ah, cool, thanks
[20:51] <barry> james_w: perfect
[20:51] <Penguin> Ahh, so you use a .changes file...
[20:51] <barry> Penguin: build source will give you the .changes file (i happen to use 'bzr bd -S)
[20:54] <Penguin> Sorry I'm really new to packaging, I have no idea how I go about updating my package...
[20:54] <Penguin> Do I upload the new one to launchpad first?
[20:57] <barry> Penguin: i am no expert, and there are many ways to do it, but the way i like to do it is to use bazaar's bzr-builddeb plugin.  you don't have to push your branch to lp first, but you do need a proper debian directory.  then 'bzr bd -S' leaves you with a .changes file you can dput to your ppa so lp will build it.  of course, i also like to push my branches to lp to share them with other people
[20:57] <barry> Penguin: do you know how to create a debian directory with control, rules, changelog, etc?
[21:01] <Penguin> barry: Yeah, I have my properly debianized package with .orig.tar.gz and source.tar.gz and .deb. I just don't know how to make version 2.
[21:01] <barry> Penguin: dch -i to update your changelog
[21:02] <Penguin> barry: Done
[21:03] <barry> Penguin: now build source again and your version should be bumped
[21:05] <Penguin> barry: Yeah..
[21:05] <Penguin> barry: So I upload all the new files to launchpad?
[21:06] <barry> Penguin: just dput the _source.changes file i think
[21:06] <Penguin> barry: And then it automatically grabs the new files?
[21:08] <barry> Penguin: dput will upload everything the buildd's need to build the source package
[21:09] <Penguin> barry: I think I got it now, thanks.
[21:10] <barry> Penguin: great!
[21:42] <chamindra> hello I am from the sahana project: https://launchpad.net/sahana
[21:43] <chamindra> I need some help with the following query
[21:43] <chamindra> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/98691
[21:44] <sinzui> chamindra, I can make the project group once an admin renamed the current project
[21:45] <chamindra> it asks to rename the project from sahana to sahana.old in order to create a super project.. but I am not sure where to do that. As "change details" only gives display name
[21:45] <chamindra> sinzui: can you tell me where I need to go to change the name
[21:45] <chamindra> I am in the admin group of the main project
[21:47] <sinzui> chamindra, you cannot rename the launchpad id/name, only an admin can
[21:47] <glen> bazaar.launchpad.net giving 500 now
[21:47] <chamindra> sinzui: ok sure. What do I need to do so that you can proceed
[21:48] <sinzui> chamindra: there is nothing we can do until an admin renames the old project: which I think is this question: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/106129
[21:49] <chamindra> oh ok
[21:49] <chamindra> I presume you mean a launchpad admin. OK then I will just wait till it is done
[21:50] <sinzui> chamindra, I can make the project group with basic information when the name is available. I will assign the project group to you to complete
[21:50] <chamindra> sinzui: thanks for your help..
[21:51] <chamindra> you can email me on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with the details when you are ready
[21:52] <chamindra> wait a sec.. is there anything you need us to do to make the name available, or will you do that?
[21:52] <chamindra> just checking
[21:53] <chamindra> sinzui: ^
[21:54] <sinzui> chamindra, I was going to copy the summary and description of the current project and for the project groups, then make you the owner. You can fix the information and add the current projects to the group
[21:54] <chamindra> sinzui: sure will do
[22:16] <Daviey> loggerhead down?
[22:17] <Daviey> oh, just being buggy - being persistent with refresh gets it there :)
[22:38] <orbarron> hello all... I am a NooB to launchpad and bazaar so please be nice :)
[22:39] <orbarron> I am trying to pull down a project but I seems to have some proxy issues with bazaar
[22:39] <orbarron> does anyone know where to configure this? I tried in ./bazaar/authentication.conf
[22:43] <sinzui> orbarron, I think you need to first use bzr login <launchpad-id>
[22:44] <sinzui> orbarron, your id is the name after the ~ in your profile page's url
[22:44] <orbarron> ahh
[22:44]  * orbarron tries
[22:45] <orbarron> bzr: ERROR: unknown command "login"
[22:46] <thumper> sinzui: lp-login
[22:46] <thumper> orbarron: ^^
[22:46] <orbarron> bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host 'launchpad.net' [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[22:47]  * orbarron wonders if this is proxy issue :-/
[22:47] <orbarron> does bzr have a way to set proxy?
[22:48]  * orbarron had to set corkscrew up for git so assuming bzr needs something similar...
[22:49] <wgrant> orbarron: If you haven't run bzr launchpad-login, bzr will use HTTP. I believe it will respect the normal http_proxy environment variable.
[23:20] <doko__> now I got 400 emails, but the highest bug number is still below 30000. maybe somebody could disable these emails for closed bug reports?
[23:23] <wgrant> doko__: I believe that checkwatches has been turned off for now; there is a branch awaiting a cherrypick to turn Debian comment syncing off so bug syncing can be switched back on.
[23:24] <doko__> wgrant: thanks!
[23:24] <wgrant> doko__: You haven't received any in the last couple of hours, right?
[23:24] <doko__> wgrant: the latest 10min ago
[23:25] <wgrant> Oh.
[23:25] <kfogel> wgrant: reading
[23:26] <kfogel> wgrant: don't know status, unfortunately
[23:26] <wgrant> there is a branch proposed to production-devel to fix it, but I thought checkwatches was switched off in the interim.
[23:26] <kfogel> wgrant, doko__: I thought maybe there was something on launchpad blog about this
[23:27] <wgrant> Bug #552725
[23:28] <wgrant> "checkwatches as been disabled to stop the noise now. It needs to be re-enabled *ASAP*. We need a fix for this right away."
[23:30] <kfogel> wgrant: the only other thing I can find is gmb's post http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/launchpads-bug-watch-system-and-other-animals
[23:31] <lifeless> leonardr: so did lptools need changes for your beta thing, at all ?
[23:34] <kfogel> oooooh
[23:34] <kfogel> okay, wgrant and doko__ : so IOW, contrary to bug #552725, doko__ is still getting spammed with comments from old bugs?
[23:34] <wgrant> kfogel: Yes.
[23:35] <wgrant> Which suggests that checkwatches is turned on.
[23:35] <kfogel> hmrmrm, that's bad, since Gavin won't be awake for a while :-)
[23:35] <wgrant> There is a convenient LOSA somewhere who can switch it off, though.
[23:35] <doko__> last email I see is about "[Bug 27317] Re: netenv segmentation fault"
[23:36] <kfogel> doko__: I've raised a noise about this internally with admins
[23:37] <doko__> kfogel: I don't mind clearing my own mailbox tomorrow morning ;-)
[23:37] <kfogel> doko__: but many other people might mind :-)
[23:37] <doko__> =)
[23:37] <lifeless> kfogel: our call; 60 minutes or so from now ok ?
[23:37] <kfogel> lifeless: I think so, but my schedule is not completely under my control.
[23:38] <lifeless> who controls it ?
[23:38] <kfogel> lifeless: if I can't, don't worry: I definitely *can* next week.  Just today and tomorrow are my last days of coding rotation on bugs team; I kind of want to finish up some stuff related to bugs work.  Next week I'm back on strategy team, and this is part of our strategy.
[23:38] <kfogel> lifeless: I wasn't sure when you'd be coming online today
[23:38] <kfogel> lifeless: so, I'm in SFLC offices today, and I have to leave when last staffer leaves
[23:39] <kfogel> last staffer happens today happens to be my friend with whom I'm having dinner anyway
[23:39] <kfogel> lifeless: (But, to give the more general answer: my girlfriend Winnie :-) )
[23:40] <spm> doko__: how old are the emails? were they sent *within* ~ the last 2 hours?
[23:40] <lifeless> kfogel: heh ok
[23:40] <lifeless> I just need breakfast; I'm fighting a cold at the moment, and (shock, horror) I slept 3 hours later than I normally do
[23:42] <leonardr> lifeless: yes, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~leonardr/lptools/multiversion-support
[23:42] <wgrant> leonardr: How strong are our API versioning guarantees?
[23:42] <kfogel> lifeless: definitely go get breakfast.  If I'm here when you're done, we'll chat tonight; if not, your Tuesday morning (my Monday night) is fine.
[23:43] <leonardr> though james_w claims he put those changes into ubuntu
[23:43] <doko__> spm: last one is now "[Bug 27432] Re: readline5: FTBFS on i386, s390, powerpc.", arrived 13min ago. from fiordland.canonical.com (fiordland.canonical.com [<IP_ADDRESS>])	by grenadilla.canonical.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B741442BB0	for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:36:40 +0100 (BST)
[23:43] <kfogel> lifeless: (I'd like to reserve tomorrow for bugs work strictly)
[23:43] <wgrant> leonardr: eg. the pending build model rework is going to make Build API compatibility rather difficult.
[23:43] <lifeless> kfogel: its easter
[23:43] <lifeless> are you sure your monday is ok ?
[23:44] <kfogel> lifeless: oh, meaning your Friday in commonwealth countries is a holiday anyway, right?
[23:44] <lifeless> right
[23:44] <lifeless> friday and monday both, I believe.
[23:44] <kfogel> lifeless: Yes, I am sure -- let me put it this way: have a good Passover.
[23:44] <lifeless> :>
[23:44] <spm> doko__: yeah - I can see the cause - despite the fix; we still had an old version of checkwatches running. gah. I've killed that so *hopefully* we're groovy from here
[23:44] <doko__> \o/
[23:45] <kfogel> ./o\.
[23:45] <kfogel> that's "bow to spm" in case it wasn't clear
[23:45] <spm> I did wonder :-)
[23:45] <wgrant> kfogel: I was trying to work out how that one was possible.
[23:45] <spm> I was ? hrm is that hands on head? the '.'s being elbows...
[23:45] <kfogel> wgrant: you have to be double-jointed
[23:46] <wgrant> Yeah, it looked like hands on head with very strange elbows.
[23:46] <kfogel> wgrant: or, like me, simply made of ASCII from the start
[23:46] <wgrant> Heh.
[23:46] <spm> kfogel: they broke the character set when they made you. :-P
[23:46] <kfogel> (my sister's made of UTF-8 though -- she got better nutrition)


[18:01] <God> hi all
[18:01] <God> whats appen
[18:06] <Vahe> I am bit familiar with ubuntu
[18:06] <Vahe> how can I become part of the team?
[18:06] <elopio> Vahe: hello
[18:07] <elopio> Vahe: we will answer you on the video in a few minutes.
[18:07] <elopio> where are you from?
[18:07] <will_> hi
[18:08] <elopio> hello will_
[18:08] <elopio> welcome.
 well I am using Ubuntu and its commands
 elopio well I am using Ubuntu and its commands
[18:11] <Vahe> I am from Armenia
[18:11] <will_> Brazil here
[18:12] <elopio> cool, thanks for joining.
[18:14] <Vahe> hi elopio I am from Armenia
[18:16] <rick_> hi
[18:16] <elopio> hello rick_
[18:16] <elopio> where are you from rick_ ?
[18:17] <rick_> israel
 ????
 Thanks
 I think Testing will be very good start
[18:23] <elopio> Vahe: we'll be happy to help there.
[18:24] <elopio> Vahe: https://twitter.com/ubuntutesting
[18:24] <Iken> From Kenya.. ubuntu for life. <3 <3
 who is going give me some tasks?
[18:25] <tribaal> Iken: Karibu kaka!
[18:25] <tribaal> karibu sana :)
[18:28] <Iken> thanks @tribaal
[18:30] <m4sk1n> Can I get invitation? :)
[18:30] <elopio> m4sk1n: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/35tzuyqrdzbzzmf4ovmze7veu4e
[18:31] <elopio> Vahe: just choose a call for testing, and follow the link.
[18:31] <elopio> leave a reply if you have questions.
 Do you mean on twitter?
 call for testing
 call for testing
[18:36] <dosmanak> Hello. why snap?
[18:40] <elopio> hello dosmanak . Care to expand on your question
[18:40] <elopio> ?
[18:41] <dosmanak> I see that Ubuntu Facebook feed pushes snap application. I dont see the reason why snap. Is apt bad?
[18:42] <dosmanak> elopio, Is shared libraries bad? Is is bad to be able to maintain secure system just by upgrading the library not all snaps.
[18:42] <elopio> Vahe: yes, follow the links on twitter.com/ubuntutesting
[18:42] <elopio> they will have instructions.
[18:43] <elopio> dosmanak: I will anwser you in a few minutes.
[18:45] <dosmanak> elopio, thank you in advance :-)
 Ok Thanks
[18:50] <tribaal> Iken: are you from the Kenyan LoCo team?
[18:50] <tribaal> What will you guys do (if anything) for the next release party?
[18:50] <tribaal> are you all in Nairobi or scattered around?
[19:52] <dosmanak> elopio, now again. snap install scummvm they say :'-(
[20:04] <elopio> dosmanak: is it not working for you? Sorry, I don't understand what you said :)
[21:03] <tatianna_> h
[21:03] <tatianna_> hrllo
[21:07] <elopio> hello tatianna_
[21:07] <pLaTnOrm> Hello
[21:09] <elopio> hello pLaTnOrm
[21:09] <pLaTnOrm> I guess I missed the event
[21:09] <elopio> pLaTnOrm: you can always watch the recording.
[21:10] <elopio> if you have questions, there's still people hanging here. Or you can go to community.ubuntu.com.
[21:16] <pLaTnOrm> Can some from the devlopmment team explain to me why decide to go back to GNOME ?
[21:30] <pLaTnOrm> someone ?