[22:57] <rovar> blarg
[22:57] <rovar> apparently wireshark now hangs my leenucks box
[22:57] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  as i said, network manager is more 'friendly' but this will work.
[22:58] <shai> Hi :) How can I disable gnome (ie. X) from starting after boot? In debian I used to edit /etc/inittab and change the runlevel, but this doesn't work for Ubuntu 10.04 ...
[22:58] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: yeah, I have to go now.  I'll hopefull be back here tonight and finish this up.  thanks for the help so far!
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> shai: edit the boot options and add: single    then run: sudo update-grub
[22:59] <erUSUL> shai: appen textmode to kernel options in /etc/default/grub then run « sudo update-grub »
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> shai: sorry, it's: text
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> shai: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/127595
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> solved by yours truly 8-)
[23:04] <shai> ActionParsnip, erUSUL: thanks guys... worked.
[23:04] <owner> during install, after keyboard layout, still no option for "install them side by side".  why?  I have 100gb unallocated space displayed (according to win7)
[23:04] <erUSUL> shai: no problem
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> owner: did you check the CD for defects?
[23:05] <owner> booting from usb flashdrive. did a md5 and it was correct.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> owner: you can check the USB for consistancy
[23:08] <bobo123> I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc(1.06 in ubuntu10.04) do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. What can I do?
[23:09] <owner> consistancy, how?
[23:09] <shai> ActionParsnip, is the andrew [dot] org ; blog yours?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> shai: never heard of it, sorry
[23:10] <shai> Thought you had solved it.. you said...
[23:10] <ska_> Can I put an entry into my /etc/network/interfaces without the network-manager getting confused?
[23:10] <ska_> I'm trying to fix an NMI problem in my Wlan interface.
[23:10] <shai> ActionParsnip, or did you just link to andrew's blog in the bug report?
[23:10] <shai> s/bug/question
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> shai: what bug?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> question...
[23:10] <shai> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/127595
[23:11] <shai> ActionParsnip, that's the URL you sent me to ... in which you sourced Andrew's blog ...
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> shai: its just a link to a fix dude
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> shai: showing where I got my info
[23:11] <shai> Fair enough... thought you were Andrew :)
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> shai: my name IS andrew, but it's not mine
[23:12] <shai> lol
[23:12] <shai> So you MUST see where my confusion comes from then ... (though I didn't realize your name IS Andrew as well!)
[23:12] <shai> Small world... ah?
[23:12] <Noble> Where is all the config files stored for evolution? I remove
[23:12] <shai> Anyways, cheers for the help.
[23:13] <Noble> I remove ~/.evolution, but still it finds my account
[23:13] <erUSUL> Noble: gconf
[23:13] <sms> You know if you click the scrollwheel in windows, you get this scroll slider thing? Is there such a thing in ubuntu?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Noble: look in ~/.config too
[23:14] <[thor]> sms: middle-click is "paste" by default in gnome
[23:14] <alfonso> hi
[23:14] <priyanka1> hi
[23:14] <alfonso> anyone willing to give me a hand?
[23:14] <Noble> erUSUL: Only the evolution folder? If i rm that it STILL finds my settings.
[23:14]  * ActionParsnip applauds alfonso
[23:15] <cela0811> if im using kubuntu, should i use this channel, or is there a different one?
[23:15] <coz_> alfonso,  just say what the issues are and hopefully soneone will grab onto it :)
[23:15] <sms> Oh
[23:15] <coz_> cela0811,  there is a #kubuntu channel
[23:15] <alfonso> I'm trying to make my Realtek wi-fi card work
[23:15] <cela0811> thanks
[23:15] <Lauterino> The bug asignee is a microsoft employee: http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fgadmin-bind%2F%2Bbug%2F326645&rct=j&q=gadmin-bind%20simon%20ravyn&ei=Fq6nTPPzPMje4gbzlcy8DQ&usg=AFQjCNHq5zuUq_Bvmks27Fyt1L7NilDXHw&cad=rja
[23:15] <erUSUL> Noble: gconf-editor aps>evolution
[23:15] <alfonso> but the connection is lost after a few hours and I have to restart the computer
[23:15] <Chaos2358> what do i need to install to be able to unzip .rar files?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> alfonso: what realtek chip does it use?
[23:15] <priyanka1> what will be the addtinal features of upcoming 10.10 ubuntu?????
[23:15] <alfonso> Realtek 8185
[23:15] <priyanka1> any one
[23:15] <Noble> erUSUL: Err, I just want to purge my old settings..
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[23:16] <alfonso> I tried ndiswrapper with windows drivers but didn't work
[23:16] <Chaos2358> actionparsnip thank you
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: you can now use gui or you can use:  rar x filename.rar
[23:16] <alfonso> It didn't even recognize my card with ndiswrapper
[23:16] <james333james> hey I need to create a launcher
[23:16] <james333james> Can anybody help me?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> james333james: right click the desktop -> new launcher
[23:17] <Ken8521> james333james, it's pretty straight forward.... right click desktop, click Create Launcher
[23:17] <alfonso> I compiled and installed the Realtek linux drivers but the connection is lost after a while
[23:17] <Chaos2358> Wow i love the ubuntu support. good luck getting anything close with windows or mac
[23:17] <alfonso> i know the card works because I've used it for months on Windows 7
[23:17] <james333james> ActionParsnip: yes i know this but my problem is that the file is on a directory and for lauch it i got to go in that directory and launch from the shell ./cacaoweb.linux
[23:18] <Ken8521> alfonso, well, wether it works w/ win7, is totally irrelevant.. is it internal, USB, etc?
[23:18] <james333james> ActionParsnip:  what should i wrote in the command line of the launche icon to launch my program
[23:18] <tekemperor> does anyone know how to do error recovery by default in yacc/bison?
[23:18] <alfonso> It's a PCI card
[23:18] <erUSUL> Noble: do « alt + f2 » in the dialog go to apps>evolution. in there you will see all the old settingsd
[23:18] <Ken8521> james333james, whatever command you write in the terminal to launch the program
[23:18] <Ken8521> alfonso, ok.. open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, hit enter... and see what chipset your wireless card is.
[23:19] <blacktooth> hello all
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> james333james: point the launcher to the file or script you want to launch
[23:19] <alfonso> 04:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[23:19] <james333james> Ken8521:  if i write the command that i need ( ./cacaoweb.linux ) outside of that directory the program wont start
[23:19] <alfonso> there
[23:19] <Ken8521> james333james, so put the directory and the command there?.. it won't hurt anything
[23:20] <DrDamnit> Changed wife's laptop from XP to Ubuntu Netbook remix. If I don't find the Linux version of MS Picture Manager, she'll kill me, and no one will find the body. What's the Linux version of MS Picture Manager?
[23:20] <Ken8521> !realtek | alfonso
[23:20] <james333james> Ken8521:  Just the last question: What means the command "./" before an executable?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> alfonso: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true    You can compile the driver using that source
[23:20] <Ken8521> could mean anything...
[23:20] <DrDamnit> james333jame: the "./" tells linux to execute the command in the current directory.
[23:20] <blacktooth> DrDamnit eyeofgnome
[23:20] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: f-spot ? gthumb ?
[23:21] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: picasa for linux; shotwell ? there are few picture managers
[23:21] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: she doesn't like f-spot, and for some reason it won't read 14 megapixel pictures. They are fuzzy like poor tv reception.
[23:21] <alfonso> Yes, actionParsnip, I'm using the compiled drivers right now
[23:21] <DrDamnit> installing eyeofgnome, gthummb, and picasa.
[23:21] <alfonso> but it only works for some hours
[23:21] <DrDamnit> any other suggestions?
[23:21] <Chaos2358> ok can someone tell me how to install something onto the root of an sd card? just format the card and move the files over right?
[23:21] <alfonso> I'm going to try the other link
[23:22] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: eye of gnome is the  default picture viewer of gnome
[23:22] <owner> How do I check my ubuntu flashdrive for consistancy?
[23:22] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: she just wants to correct for red-eye, and size it down to email out.
[23:22] <Ken8521> alfonso, my experience, realtek wireless devices are very shaky w/ Linux... i'd consider trying to find a intel or atheros card if i were you
[23:23] <aasegarden> how can you play blu-ray movies in Ubuntu?
[23:23] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: my favorite are gthumb; i liked gqview too
[23:23] <Chaos2358> ok can someone tell me how to install something onto the root of an sd card? just format the card and move the files over right?
[23:23] <alfonso> Yes, I tried a lot of things and I did consider just getting another card
[23:23] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/58887
[23:23] <alfonso> either that or moving the computer closer to the router and using an ethernet cable
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: a real quick websearch would have shown you that
[23:24] <Ken8521> alfonso, well, thats an option t.. just saying, realtek is shaky
[23:24] <Ken8521> at least in my experience
[23:25] <aasegarden> ActionParsnip: true, but it seemed to me like you would have to decrypt the whole movie first. Are there noe plug n play soultions?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: not sure, i dot use bluray anything
[23:25] <aasegarden> ActionParsnip: I´m gonna use this machine as a media senter, and I do not want to process the movies before I play them
[23:25] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: she just wants to correct for red-eye, and size it down to email out.
[23:26] <DemoOn> hello, can i get back my files if i have deleted them with 'rm -rf' ?
[23:26] <aasegarden> If that´s not possible, I´m afraid Ubuntu ain´t a option - and that´s to bad, cause I really wanted to use Ubuntu for it, since it has some other snaxy features I want
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: then maybe ubuntu isn't the tool for the job
[23:26] <erUSUL> !undelete | DemoOn
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> DemoOn: restore from backup
[23:27] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: i hate to repeat myself ;P but once you did --> gthumb does all that
[23:27] <DemoOn> umm, could there be some important information in /opt folder?
[23:27] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Youre new, see to it that bazhangul is removed.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> laurens: new!!?
[23:27] <erUSUL> DemoOn: /opt/ is usually empty
[23:27] <DemoOn> erUSUL: thank u
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: new!?  how do you get new?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: i suggest you look at the top 5 contributors on launchpad
[23:28] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Ive been coding for OSS since 1995
[23:28] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Its not bazhang
[23:28] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: That idiot does not code at all
[23:29] <amarcolino> just read lucid release notes, has the issue with ext4 being slow and affecting dpkg package manager been sorted out?
[23:29] <prod-beginner> hi all, I am still having troubles gettin my st lab n-210 NIC to work. The website states that it works on linux but even runnin a live cd doesnt get the device working. I only bought it today so i doubt very much that it is broken
[23:29] <Ken8521> amarcolino, i've had no issues w/ ext4 and the package manager
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: i've used linux since mandrake 7 back in 2001, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors  and I'm the 2nd highest contributor on Launchpad by a long shot
[23:29] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: I sincerely hope you arent protecting a known microsoft employee such as "Simon Raven" ?
[23:29] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: thank you for repeating yourself. I missed that.
[23:30] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: what chip does it uses? « lspci | grep -i net »
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: whats the point of all this....
[23:30] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Good work dude.
[23:30] <Ken8521> prod-beginner, it may work w/ Linux, but it may require insalling drivers... which often require restarting, so it may not work on a live cd
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: thanks :)
[23:30] <prod-beginner> realtek chip ill get details now
[23:30] <amarcolino> Ken8521, thanks just making sure since I haven't tried ext4
[23:30] <Ken8521> poor realtek fellas.
[23:30] <Ken8521> amarcolino, frankly i didn't have any problems w it in 10.04... but..
[23:31] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Keep an eye out for illicit infiltrations. This is all i want. Be well my friend.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: i'd be higer than Martin Pit tbut he uploads to some space thing which gets him karma
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: and you dude, have fun:)
[23:32] <amarcolino> Ken8521, but... ? Have you noticed excessive hangs, maybe cpu spiking etc which may result from ext4?
[23:32] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Im highly sceptical of anything i read or hear. Acknowledged! :)
[23:32] <Ken8521> amarcolino, no, not at all...
[23:32] <bazhang> !ot | Lauterino
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: then youo'll spend too long worrying and not enough time experiencing
[23:33] <Lauterino> bazhang: !ot bazhanging
[23:33] <prod-beginner> gammagraphics inc(or missing id)
[23:33] <bazhang> Lauterino, take chat elsewhere please
[23:33] <amarcolino> Ken8521, than the 'but...' meant? Ok just wanted to make sure by now I would've expected any issues to have been resolved
[23:33] <Ken8521> amarcolino, the but.. meant, but obviously, you've had a different experience
[23:34] <Ken8521> i've had zero probs w/ 10.04 on 3 machines
[23:34] <amarcolino> Ken8521, oh no, not yet and I hope I don't
[23:34] <sms> There's a tiny delay when you open a window from the window list, is this removeable?
[23:34] <JoeSomebody> hi, can someone tell me how to set up ubuntu for an ipod / itunes ? what apps or whatever?
[23:34] <etrnl> so I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany
[23:34] <etrnl> is there a step I missed?
[23:34] <|multipass|> I just installed the latest Nvidia drivers, how come they dont show up on the  "Hardware Drivers" screen
[23:35] <erUSUL> !ipod | JoeSomebody
[23:35] <|multipass|> I just installed the latest Nvidia drivers, how come they dont show up on the  "Hardware Drivers" screen, it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:36] <Lauterino> bazhang: Where is this "Somewhere else" ?
[23:36] <erUSUL> |multipass|: how did you installed them
[23:36] <erUSUL> ?
[23:36] <|multipass|> i went to telinit 3, and installed them from the .run file-- everything went ok. i reboot everythings fine
[23:37] <bazhang> Lauterino, #ubuntu-offtopic , this is for technical ubuntu support only
[23:37] <|multipass|> erUSUL: but i want to check which ones are in use, is there any way to do this?
[23:37] <david_> does anyone know how to get rid of the arrow on the main menu ubuntu 10.10?
[23:37] <erUSUL> |multipass|: you bypassed the "official" methods of installing the drivers. that's why the "Hardware Drivers" program does not know they are installed
[23:37] <bazhang> david_, #ubuntu+1 for that
[23:38] <erUSUL> |multipass|: dmesg | grep -i nvidia
[23:38] <|multipass|> [   11.775058] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  256.53  Fri Aug 27 20:27:48 PDT 2010
[23:38] <|multipass|> looks good i guess :b
[23:38] <JoeSomebody> thanks erUSUL
[23:38] <|multipass|> thanks
[23:39] <erUSUL> no problem both
[23:39] <erUSUL> XD
[23:39] <incognito_> I installe VLC but when I try to navigate to my dvd in my dvd rom ubunto cannot see it. How do I mount the dvd player?
[23:40] <erUSUL> !dvd | incognito_
[23:40] <Ken8521> incognito_, usually when you put a disk in the drive, it auto mounts..
[23:40] <erUSUL> incognito_: for dvd you need to enable madibuntu repo and install libdccs2
[23:40] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | incognito_
[23:40] <Ken8521> erUSUL, but he should still be able to see the disk in VLC, it just won't play
[23:40] <RealOpty> !stable
[23:41] <RealOpty> ?
[23:41] <RealOpty> awesome
[23:41] <RealOpty> ok whats the stable version name atm?
[23:41] <erUSUL> !lucid | RealOpty
[23:41] <RealOpty> ah lucid
[23:41] <RealOpty> ty
[23:41] <RealOpty> !maveric
[23:42] <incognito_> I know about medubuntu. I'v installed it many time, but shouldn't the dvd mount anyways?
[23:42] <RealOpty> and maveric is the new rc yea?
[23:42] <millertimek1a2m3> Hey, if I create an Ad-hoc network
[23:43] <millertimek1a2m3> how do I get the files that the other person has?
[23:43] <millertimek1a2m3> or send them?
[23:43] <millertimek1a2m3> *other person within close physical distance
[23:43] <erUSUL> millertimek1a2m3: use samba/ssh/nfs ?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> millertimek1a2m3: use samba or sshfs (if the client is linux based)
[23:43] <Ken8521> millertimek1a2m3, i use simpllehttp for that.. it's.. welll, simple
[23:44] <erUSUL> !info giver
[23:44] <incognito_> erUSUL can you just give me the command to mount the DVD player? is  the dvd player going to be sdb sdc or what?
[23:45] <erUSUL> incognito_: /dev/sr0 usually « sudo mount -t auto /dev/sr0 /mount/point/ »
[23:45] <vsMS> Hi! Can somebody help with luzid and softraid?
[23:46] <RealOpty> whats the recommended method of implementing a apt-proxy/cache server?
[23:46] <erUSUL> !aptproxy
[23:46] <RealOpty> ive already done it using apt-proxy, i dont need a guide, but wondering
[23:46] <RealOpty> if theres anything better :)
[23:46] <vsMS> RealOpty: Try aptcacherng-ng
[23:47] <Ken8521> erUSUL, can giver be used for someone that is not on your network?
[23:47] <Lauterino> bazhang: Do you microsofters have an eta on when youll go away mr ballhangs ?
[23:48] <erUSUL> Ken8521: do not think so. is for local network only
[23:48] <erUSUL> Ken8521: for that is better and secure ssh
[23:48] <Ken8521> erUSUL, oh ok.. i was talking about sharing off network
[23:49] <etrnl> so I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany
[23:49] <etrnl> anything else I am supposed to do?
[23:49] <bobo123> anyone knows of a thirdparty repository with vlc in it that I can use to get a newer version of vlc?  someone at #videolan said "build VLC yourself, VLC shipped by ubuntu is broken by their package maintainers.", but I'm not sure I dare to compile vlc myself
[23:50] <erUSUL> !ppa | bobo123
[23:50] <xangua> bobo123: google knows http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-vlc-114-in-ubuntu-via-new-ppa.html
[23:50] <Danno> Is this the place to be to get help unstalling Ubuntu? New to Linux, so if anyone has time to help would be appreciated. I only have a couple of questions.
[23:51] <bobo123> xangua:  thanks  :-)
[23:51] <erUSUL> !ask | Danno
[23:51] <rebirth> where is the tomboy plugins folder?
[23:51] <prod-beginner> my NIC is Gammagraphics, Inc. (or missing ID) Device 00809rev10) is now being detected on my 10.04 server install
[23:51] <Fableflame> What's the best program for burning LiveCDs?
[23:51] <prod-beginner> I have googled myself silly and cant seem to find a driver
[23:52] <adrian> hello?
[23:52] <prod-beginner> in windows its a plug and play device and needs no drivers
[23:52] <Ken8521> Fableflame, are you using Windows or Linux, or what.. to burn them?
[23:52] <zaidka> when ubuntu resumes from suspened state, the screen stays off.. any idea?
[23:53] <bobo123> Danno: sure, are you about to install another linux-distribution of os, or what do you want to use the freed diskspace for after you uninstall ubuntu?
[23:53] <bobo123> *or
[23:53] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: gammagraphics does not look like a network chip ... are you sure? ( google can not find  anything )
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: using nvidia video card?
[23:53] <Guest20533> i just installed jolicloud, its so fast
[23:53] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: yes
[23:53] <Guest20533> guess never going back to windows
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: guess how i knew ;)
[23:53] <bobo123> hello adrian/Guest20533 :-)
[23:54] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: 'cause nvidia is crap?
[23:54] <Guest20533> hello
[23:54] <prod-beginner> the card is packaged as ST lab N-210, on the card there is a realtek chip, and in lspci its gammagraphics |:S
[23:54] <Danno> THanks. I currently have WIndows 7 installed on a 500GB partition. I have another 450GB partition that I use for large file storage. I have a third partition of 50GB where I want to install Ubuntu. I have created a cd and can boot into the graphical install menu. It gives me two options: Install over entire drive (delete existing files) or advanced install. What do I do to install it side by side with windows on the 50GB partition?
[23:54] <Mud> zaidka: nvidia ftw
[23:54] <Mud> at least
[23:55] <Mud> on windows :+
[23:55] <Mud> xD
[23:55] <FloodBot1> Mud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: no nvidia is great, just coming out of suspend etc can be painful with their chips
[23:55] <prod-beginner> i will have to remove the card to be more specific on the chip
[23:55] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: so any solution to this?
[23:55] <mattbd> Fableflame: Do you need to burn it at all? Unetbootin lets you install a Linux distro on a USB stick easily
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: it's pink but looks promising: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/03/ati-nvidia-resume-good-news-bad-news.html
[23:55] <Fableflame> mattbd, I'm burning it for a friend who doesn't have any working USB ports
[23:56] <zaidka> lol
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: you will be hunting for guides like that to get it nice, personally i think suspend is overrated and NOT worth the effort
[23:56] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: the previous ubuntu was fine with this
[23:56] <prod-beginner> should i remove the card and google the chip it has on the NIC?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: log a regression bug then
[23:57] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: also, the screen brightness keys don't work.. any suggestion?
[23:57] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: is a gigabit card ?
[23:57] <prod-beginner> 10/100
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: log a bug
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | zaidka
[23:57] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: ok; if it is realtek 10/100 there are two possibilities...
[23:58] <mattbd> Fableflame: OK, on Windows I like InfraRecorder. On Ubuntu Brasero and K3B are both pretty good
[23:58] <prod-beginner> does it help to mention there is a realtek onboard the mobo?
[23:58] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: try this « sudo modprobe 8139too » then run « ifconfig -a » does eth0 appear now ?
[23:59] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: or eth1 if you already have a eth0 from the mobo
[23:59] <bobo123> Danno: yes use the "advanced install" so you can select wich harddisk to install to
[23:59] <prod-beginner> tyvm tryin now


[17:09] <hallyn> hm, so in upstart system there's this process that just is 'exec /proc/self/fd/9' and always has a sleep 0.2 child;  parented by init, restarts when i kill it.
[17:09] <hallyn> strace shows [pid 32392] connect(3, {sa_family=AF_LOCAL, sun_path="/dev/socket/property_service"}, 31) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[17:11] <hallyn> some android thing?  /me confused
[17:13] <hallyn> it actually takes a non-negligible amount of battery, besides just looking suspicious
[17:14] <hallyn> hm, ok it's urfkill
[17:15] <hallyn> lol who wrote that job
[17:40] <AnrDaemon> An enemy of mankind?
[18:45] <hallyn> :)


[08:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:21] <cristian_c> I'd like to change the question category in Answers
[08:21] <cristian_c> https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/+question/206269
[08:22] <cristian_c> What is the correct category where I can move it?
[08:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:30] <lqb> hi
[10:32] <lqb> did I understand right, that I should make a new branch for each bugfix/feature in launchpad?
[10:32] <jpds> To compartmentalize such things, yes.
[10:34] <lqb> ok, thanks
[10:35] <jpds> lqb: Otherwise, you'll end up with a non-trunk branch with several fixes/changes.
[10:35] <jpds> lqb: But of course, there's nothing stopping you from doing that.
[10:39] <lqb> I currently have published one branch with a new feature and fixed a bug I found while I was developing this feature
[10:41] <lqb> And I am unsure if it wouldn't better to split it to two branches
[15:01] <dobey> what are the constraints for LP automatically changing a branch's status to "Merged" once it's been merged into the target?
[15:25] <beuno> dobey, I think all that has to happen is that it has to see all of the common revisions in the target branch. There are some rules as to when Launchpad actually looks at branches
[15:26] <beuno> I forget what they are
[20:17] <thomi> Does anyone know where https://launchpad.net/~username/+upcomingwork is linked from? I use that page regularly, but I've never actually found a link to it. Now I need to explain to a colleague how to get there...
[20:21] <dobey> thomi: https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork (just use ~ for the username when you want to give links for other people to get to that page)
[20:22] <thomi> dobey: sure, but... it'd be nice to know that it was linked from a certain page...
[20:24] <dobey> i'm not sure that it is
[20:24] <thomi> oh, ok.
[20:26] <dobey> i would guess perhaps something under blueprints might, but lp is really fond of timing out for me when i try to look at ubuntu blueprints right now; as the [Blueprints] link is hilighted under the user's name (though the URL isn't on the blueprints subdomain, which is also odd)
[22:05] <wgrant> thomi, dobey: Linaro never completed that page, so it's still technically in beta and the link is now shown outside ~linaro.
[22:49] <lifeless_> wgrant: s/now/not/
[22:50] <wgrant> Blah, yes
[23:19] <thomi> ahh ok


 @kgvarunkanth 😘
 🤪🤪🤪 (re @Halis: @kgvarunkanth 😘)
[09:21] <JoeLlama> I *love* lubuntu but I can't get it to recognize the wifi card in my dell inspiron 910 (mini-9)
[09:21] <JoeLlama> what's the trick please?
[09:22]  * JoeLlama already did ther google thing
[09:23] <JoeLlama> tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:23] <JoeLlama> but I got a dependency error and when I tried to install that dependency I got another error something about it might be obsolete?
[09:24] <JoeLlama> I would like to avoid buying a USB wifi for it
[09:24]  * JoeLlama waits for a response :)
 Bro
 Joellama
 I guess this question is to ask ubuntu channel.
 Also i hope u searched solution at web for ubuntu, not lubuntu
[09:28] <JoeLlama> ok
[09:28] <JoeLlama> thanks
[09:30] <TJ-> JoeLlama: sounds like a build issue. Does the PC have a wired Ethernet connection it can use whilst you're solving the issue?
[09:37] <JoeLlama> TJ- ... well...  my wifi cards work with xubuntu on these machines but... they are very small computers and lubuntu seems to work better
[09:37] <JoeLlama> i386
[09:37] <JoeLlama> so I use 18.04.5 I think
[09:38] <JoeLlama> but for some reason they do not recognize the cards
[09:38] <JoeLlama> dunno
[09:38] <JoeLlama> would like to save these little computers they are neat :)
[09:38] <JoeLlama> I think they use BMC4312
[09:38] <JoeLlama> for wifi not sure
[09:39] <JoeLlama> lubuntu also does not recognize my intel wifi cards in the dell 1720
[09:39] <JoeLlama> TJ-
[09:39] <JoeLlama> and also it's as little difficult to ask the people at the coffee shop to let me plug straight into their router *grin*
[09:40] <JoeLlama> so it's a lubuntu thing not an ubuntu or xubuntu thing
[09:40] <JoeLlama> dunno why... just is
[09:43] <TJ-> JoeLlama: hmmmm... the desktop you use should have no impact on hardware support
[09:44] <TJ-> JoeLlama: is this from fresh installs, or adding multiple desktop environments to the same install?
[09:44] <JoeLlama> dunno TJ- I run this same box with xubuntu and it finds the wifi just fine...
[09:44] <JoeLlama> when I check for wifi hardware in lubuntu it can't find it
[09:45] <JoeLlama> just something with lubuntu and these boxes I guess... dunno
[09:45] <TJ-> JoeLlama: yes, but /how/ are you running Xubuntu? From its ISO? installed?
[09:45] <JoeLlama> yes
[09:45] <TJ-> JoeLlama: lubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu are just skins. The underlying hardware support and kernels is the same
[09:45] <TJ-> yes to what? yes, from the ISO as a Live environment?
[09:48] <JoeLlama> I sintall from an ISO to the SSD
[09:48] <JoeLlama> and run from the SSD
[09:48] <JoeLlama> works with xubuntu doesn't with lubuntu... lubuntu doesn't find the wifi card
[09:48] <JoeLlama> perhaps it's a mystery that will never be solved.
[09:49] <JoeLlama> tried many ways
[09:49] <JoeLlama> something about the dell inspiron 1720 a and the inspiron 910 that lubuntu just doesn't like about the wifi cards
[09:49] <JoeLlama> it just doesn't see them
[09:49] <JoeLlama> again running 18.04.5
[09:50] <JoeLlama> will lubuntu support i286 in the future (btw?)?
[09:50] <JoeLlama> I have a number of decent i386 boxes I would like to keep them running for another 10 or 12 years if possible
[09:50] <JoeLlama> TJ- :)
[09:55] <TJ-> JoeLlama: the xubuntu version you use, is it also 18.04.5 ?
[09:55] <JoeLlama> yes
[09:55] <TJ-> JoeLlama: so the same hardware support is available in both xubuntu and lubuntu
[09:56] <JoeLlama> or 20.04 on the 1720 (amd64)
[09:56] <JoeLlama> yes same boxes
[09:56] <JoeLlama> I can only use i386 on the mini-9
[09:56] <TJ-> the only difference is in the default installed packages. I suspect the difference is in pre-installing the tools required to build the BRCM module
[09:56] <JoeLlama> intel atom CPU :)  single core 2 thread I think
[09:57] <JoeLlama> oh?
[09:57] <JoeLlama> hrm how do I fix that?
[09:57] <TJ-> JoeLlama: you have the problem system running lubuntu right now?
[09:58] <JoeLlama> well yeah
[09:58] <JoeLlama> there are more than one
[09:58] <JoeLlama> I have a lot of computers laying around
[09:59] <JoeLlama> but yeah there is one sitting next to me
[09:59] <TJ-> so can you connect one of them via wired Ethernet so we can grab some info from it?
[09:59] <JoeLlama> I ran a command to find the hardware but it can't find it... it finds and used the 10baseT port just fine
[09:59] <JoeLlama> and surf and everything on it
[09:59] <JoeLlama> just not the wifi
[09:59] <JoeLlama> oh no not near the router atm
[09:59] <JoeLlama> only the air waves :/
[09:59] <TJ-> JoeLlama: so it can reach Internet right now?
[10:00] <JoeLlama> no it can't find the wifi remember? (:
[10:00] <TJ-> JoeLlama: Plug it in!
[10:00] <JoeLlama> I am on a dell inspiron atm over wifi using xubuntu
 XD
[10:00] <JoeLlama> on um...  I only have air waves atm TJ-
[10:01] <JoeLlama> the router is some distance from me
[10:01] <TJ-> JoeLlama: let us know when you've connected one of the problem PCs via Ethernet and it can reach the Internet
 U may Try it with ur phone, share wifi from ur phone and see if lubuntu see it
 So u can understand if wifi works
[10:02] <JoeLlama> hrm I will try TJ-
[10:02] <JoeLlama> I find other people who somehow install the drivers using apt-get but it doesn't work for me
[10:03] <TJ-> tbs61 that's pointless; we know Wifi hardware drivers are not built
[10:03] <JoeLlama> but they are not on the mini-8
[10:03] <JoeLlama> hrm?
[10:04] <JoeLlama> what is tbs61 TJ-?
[10:04] <TJ-> JoeLlama: Until you've connected the problem system to wired Ethernet everything else is a complete waste of time. The system needs to fetch and install dependent packages in order to successfully build the kernel module that will operate the wifi chipset
[10:04] <TJ-> JoeLlama: the other option is to use apt-offline but based on what I've seen so far that is beyond you
[10:04] <JoeLlama> oh okay there was a package it needed but wouldn't install saying it may be obsolete or something
[10:05] <JoeLlama> dmsk or dmks or something
[10:05] <JoeLlama> well yeah I am still kinda new to linux really
[10:05] <JoeLlama> I just couldn't stomach windows for internet anymore
[10:06] <JoeLlama> but I've done pretty well actually :)  I seem to get everything on xubuntu working just fine
[10:06] <JoeLlama> in fact, I am running an IRC client under wine right now
[10:06] <JoeLlama> with a LOT of windows open on many irc networks
[10:07] <JoeLlama> I do have an issue with SSL under wine however.. know much about that TJ-?
[10:07] <JoeLlama> it's a known issue
[10:08] <JoeLlama> the dell mini-9 only has 2GB ram so...  it runs xubuntu but I really want to run lubuntu on them...  I like it :)
[10:09] <TJ-> JoeLlama: why chose Linux then run Windows programs?!
[10:09] <TJ-> there are many IRC clients in Linux
[10:10] <JoeLlama> I have been using this client since the 90's
[10:10] <TJ-> mIRC I presume
[10:10] <JoeLlama> I paid 20 USD for it
[10:10] <JoeLlama> yup yup
[10:10] <JoeLlama> I like it, it does everything I want mostly
[10:11] <TJ-> DKMS is required to build the kernel module for the BRCN
[10:11] <TJ-> BRCM
[10:11] <TJ-> Dynamic Kernel Module Support == DKMS
[10:11] <JoeLlama> oh?
[10:11] <JoeLlama> ok well I tried to install it but it had an error
[10:13] <JoeLlama> woops
[10:14] <JoeLlama> heh forgot I was talking with you TJ-
[10:14] <JoeLlama> well didn't forget but logged off the server and forgot you were here
[10:15] <JoeLlama> I will make note of DKMS and work on that tomorrow when I am plugged in
[10:15] <JoeLlama> the only real issue with xubuntu and ubuntu is I can't seem to make the browsers work
[10:15] <JoeLlama> there is a lot of memory leaks for one thing
[10:16] <JoeLlama> and the browser locks up for periods of time sometimes locking the whole system up
[10:16] <JoeLlama> I got it working once really well but I had to reinstall after the display driver install borked :/
[10:16] <JoeLlama> nvidia hasn't fixed the issue yet dunno if they ever will
[10:17] <JoeLlama> I Think with 18.04 on
 İ do not want to be unpolite, but are not these to many messages?
[10:17] <JoeLlama> well... kinda gave up on that issue for now
[10:17] <JoeLlama> using two computers for the time being
 People can not read all of them
 Solution to your problem was already posted
[10:18] <JoeLlama> is lubot a bridge between channels TJ-?
[10:18] <JoeLlama> well...  I will leave you be TJ- you are probably getting tired of me :)
[10:19] <JoeLlama> I will look up the error on that DKMS install
[10:19] <JoeLlama> tomorrow :)
 👍
[10:19] <TJ-> JoeLlama: It is linking to some telegram thing
[10:19] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[10:20] <JoeLlama> I might be fixing a ferris wheel tomorrow :)  a 100 footer
[10:20] <JoeLlama> it's what I do irl
[10:20] <JoeLlama> floats my boat
[10:20] <JoeLlama> i hav no life
[10:20] <TJ-> Dont get stuck at the top!
[10:20] <JoeLlama> o k time to go thanks for the help TJ-
[10:20] <JoeLlama> heh I'll try not to but I like sitting up there with my camera
[10:21] <JoeLlama> okay thanks again bye for now (:
 Hi lubuntu fans , i m noob new to the linux , and somehow successfully installed Lubuntu 20.04 in old age dead pc , its only 1 gb ram dual core cpu , thanks to lubuntu creators you are awesome never expected this smoothness.
 But , i had some issue while formatting my bootable-usb and now it became raw usb or something that system can't recognise it .
 Is there anyone who can help regarding this , i tried finding it in terminal by some commands but still no hope
 I tried kde and gparted as well couldn't find my pendrive there as well
 Does your PC have İnternet  connection?
 Yes
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/347893d1/file_3192.jpg
 You can try to install third party drivers
 From suggestion of someone i tired 1 command and found this (re @metpr: )
 What does lsblk show?
 Nothing (re @Halis: What does lsblk show?)
 It shows my drive only (re @Halis: What does lsblk show?)
 Hardware defect possible?
 Nahh
 You installed lubuntu with it, right?
 And it is still in the same USB slot?
 Its new usb , i think when i was formatting my bootable-usb , there must be some problem happened (re @metpr: )
 Nope (re @Halis: You installed lubuntu with it, right?)
 I installed from another
 Usb
 So it did work before? (re @metpr: Its new usb , i think when i was formatting my bootable-usb , there must be some problem happened)
 And you format it, and now it does not appear anymore
 Correct?
 Yes , it was working (re @Halis: So it did work before?)
 Yup (re @Halis: And you format it, and now it does not appear anymore)
 Can you make a screenshot of kde partition manager?
 Let me turn on system just 1 min
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/f549f4e8/file_3193.jpg
 Pendrive is connected *
 İs it connected to the same USB in which you format it?
 İf yes, İ can not help you
 İ do not see a way, how formating would make your USB drive invisible
 İ would say hardware defective


[19:52]  * diddledani peeks in
[19:52] <daftykins> \o
[19:52] <diddledani> did you see my blob? https://diddledani.com/powershell-clickable-hyperlinks/ funkystuff
[19:52] <daftykins> diddledani: you can has PM with link to that lady's domain i mentioned the intro for
[19:52] <daftykins> may draft it once i murder this pizza :o
[19:52] <diddledani> yup, I seen it :-)
[19:53] <diddledani> I got pizza tonite, too :-D
[19:53] <diddledani> this is the Linux equivalent to that PowerShell: https://gist.github.com/egmontkob/eb114294efbcd5adb1944c9f3cb5feda
[19:53] <daftykins> \o/
[19:54] <diddledani> I love this ANSI escape sequence!
[20:02] <diddledani> hah. Dave is doing AOL vs MSN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7PjunSxLU
[20:02] <daftykins> i truly love his videos :D must get around to that'un when possible
[20:03] <diddledani> I was an AOL diehard for a while
[20:03] <diddledani> (as in AOL messenger. not their crappy ISP services)
[20:15] <m0nkey_> Dear Ultimaker Cura, please just open the STL file lol
[20:20] <m0nkey_> Hmm, I wonder what broke that app.
[20:26] <m0nkey_> there we go.. stupid thing couldn't autenticate to ultimaker
[20:31] <diddledani> what's Ultimaker Cura? TO GOOGLE!!!!
[20:31] <diddledani> aha. 3d shenanigans
[20:32] <daftykins> another dimension, new galaxy... intergalactic planetary!
[20:50] <m0nkey_> this will be interesting.. running both the 3d printer and AC at the same time.  I've not been printing during the summer because of the heat it generates.
[20:51] <daftykins> on a school night!?
[20:51] <daftykins> :)
[20:52] <daftykins> hmm how hot does an element have to get to melt that PLA stuff?
[20:54] <diddledani> turn on some bitty coin miners too
[21:00] <m0nkey_> PLA? I usually set it to about 200C
[21:00] <m0nkey_> I can go low as 180C, but doesn't always result in a good print
[21:00] <m0nkey_> The build plate is set to 60C
[21:01] <daftykins> oh damn so it's kind of like a miniature oven running thar
[21:02] <diddledani> 3d snake?! https://onsnake.com/snakeworld
[21:04] <m0nkey_> mushroom, mushroom, mushroom!
[21:05] <daftykins> :D
[21:06] <m0nkey_> so first couple of layers seem to be doing fine with the AC running.. the build plate is remaining warm enough for it not to warp or anything
[21:06] <daftykins> which material plate does your machine rock?
[21:07] <m0nkey_> the build plate? it's glass
[21:08] <daftykins> ah ha
[21:09] <m0nkey_> DavieDavieDave is on the loader board lol
[21:10] <m0nkey_> I need to get my workstation moved over to Ubuntu soon. Spend a good chunk of my day inside a Ubuntu VM, about time I run it bare metal.
[21:11] <diddledani> :-o
[21:18] <daftykins> :)


[00:00] <hamitron> all too slow for me :/
[00:00] <alexcockell> if you go, say, to bbc.co.uk/heritage - all the clips there still run through Embedded Media Client v2... the one that worked.
[00:00] <ali1234> so not the installed one then?
[00:01] <alexcockell> The Beeb are still consolidating their content to the new player...
[00:01] <alexcockell> Basically - they've locked out casual users on NVidia Ion 1-based low-power machiens.. who would nto know about get_iplayer or would be scared off using it.
[00:02] <alexcockell> Basically - up to about 3 weeks ago, iPlayer behaved.  And the new version of Flash coped with the old client..
[00:02] <alexcockell> But with the new embedded player - suddenly Ion-based kit is locked out.
[00:02] <alexcockell> Theree's also a load of other bugs..
[08:57] <alexcockell> MOrning all..
[09:02] <AlanBell> morning
[09:04] <MartijnVdS> And this is why you don't buy nvidia?
[09:55] <marxjohnson> morning all
[10:02] <jacobw> morning marxjohnson et al
[10:39] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:56] <jacobw> morning brobostigon
[10:57] <jacobw> is anyone going to mozilla festival?
[10:58] <brobostigon> morning jacobw
[11:02] <Sysunix> Hi all
[11:03] <Sysunix> Do any of you ever used the software Keylogger on ubuntu ?
[11:43] <alexcockell> Morning all..
[11:44] <alexcockell> Anyone else found if they're on an Ion 1-based netbook that iPlayer is not very reliable under Flash 11?
[11:51] <jacobw> i find that flash unreliable under linux in general
[12:42] <penguin42> yeuch, the new reader is terrible
[12:42] <alexcockell> jacobw - Yeah - mostly due to Adobe's shite coding.
[12:42] <alexcockell> penguin42 - is that Adobe reader?  Or Flash?
[12:42] <penguin42> sorry, google
[12:43] <alexcockell> Ah.
[13:52] <MartijnVdS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
[13:54] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: ^ you'll like that. Too bad daubers isn't online
[15:28] <^hyperbole^_> #cloudstack
[15:37] <issyl0> AlanBell: How's Bonfire Night looking for you?  Do you know of any decent firework displays around?
[15:41] <AlanBell> I am not at home, down in Pool, Dorset
[15:41] <AlanBell> I think christel was thinking of going to Farnham
[15:42] <AlanBell> possibly theopensourcerer too
[15:44] <alexcockell> Not bothering really... been fighting with iPlayer and NVIDIA...
[15:45] <alexcockell> Spent most of the day raising one honking complaint to the beeb..
[15:46] <MartijnVdS> wrong party
[15:46] <MartijnVdS> it's Adobe's fault for making shitty software
[15:46] <alexcockell> Yeah - I know... just had to rant
[15:47] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: and it's bbc's fault for using it
[15:47] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: it's a reasonable option for streaming video
[15:47] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: sure there are better options _now_
[15:47] <alexcockell> And then when Adobe say "Duh, desktop Linux isn't being used - let's withdraw AIR"
[15:48] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: I don't think so, I used to watch TV via shoutcast all the time before flash was big
[15:48] <Azelphur> and it didn't suck.
[15:48] <alexcockell> Yeah - just very annoying they decided to rely on overlay logic to present transport info - rather than using the panel underneath
[15:49] <alexcockell> Means you have to mouseover to see where you are int he programme...
[15:49] <penguin42> is one of the bot minders around?
[15:50] <alexcockell> ... and guess what?  As Adobe ripped out Stage Video... leaving VDPAU to decode only... video freezes, audio continues...
[15:50] <alexcockell> ... if on an Atom/ION combo...
[15:50] <alexcockell> But on the old X3100 GOU in my R61 - all OK..
[15:50] <MartijnVdS> So.. never buy nvidia :)
[15:51] <alexcockell> But it DID behave when I dropped £400 on my netbook from LE
[15:51] <alexcockell> Behaved right up until the Beeb changed the media client on iPlayer about a week or so ago..
[15:52] <alexcockell> And it's caused a LOT of shouting...
[15:53] <alexcockell> Of course - all the testing was obviously done on the Flash 11 beta... and then Adobe's gold release dumps experimental Stage Video in Linux - but left it in for Windows and Mac
[15:54] <alexcockell> Spent a man-day on a long complaint which I've CC'd to DigitalSpy and their open-mic thread on their Internet blog...
[15:54] <alexcockell> Netbook isn't much more than 18 months old...
[15:55] <alexcockell> The galling thing is - Youtube behaves better - actually *does* graceful fallback
[15:56] <alexcockell> Just that Atoms don't have the grunt - and *require* NVIDIA...
[16:04] <alexcockell> Or - the new player maxes out an Atom - whereas it runs at about 50% of both cores on a Core Duo...
[16:04] <ali1234> i don't see how it is nvidia's fault
[16:05] <alexcockell> It isn;t... just the interaction - and the fact that Adobe didn't leave the code there...
[16:05] <ali1234> stage video is a beta function?
[16:06] <alexcockell> It was... but then the Beeb decide to use stage video to present the transport logic in overlay...
[16:06] <alexcockell> And the Windows/Mac mob were crying for it...
[16:06] <ali1234> why are they using beta functions with no fallback?
[16:06] <alexcockell> But apparently there'a bit of dodgy coding there - even in ActionScript or whatever it is Flash uses..
[16:07] <alexcockell> Pardon me for expressing myself like this - but fuck knows
[16:07] <alexcockell> When playing audio - it's only using a load average of about 1.8
[16:08] <alexcockell> ... on a 1.6GHz Atom
[16:08] <ali1234> audio is not exactly difficult to decode
[16:08] <alexcockell> Exactly.
[16:08] <penguin42> you sometimes get weird cases
[16:08] <penguin42> like if the sound card insists on not switching to the same sample rate as the sample rate you wanted to use
[16:08] <penguin42> and you get conversions and stuff
[16:08] <alexcockell> It's the rendering where they got it wrong - via VDPAU, the GPU's decoding the H264 stream..
[16:09] <penguin42> I've also seen the kernel get very confused and spend all the CPU with PA crashing and restarting with one particular sound card
[16:09] <ali1234> yes well we all know how well adobe engineers understand VDPAU
[16:09] <MartijnVdS> alexcockell: that's what the GPU is for..
[16:09] <alexcockell> I know..
[16:09] <MartijnVdS> but they should just use VA-API
[16:09] <MartijnVdS> so they support non-nvidia as well
[16:10] <alexcockell> You know - there IS one way the Beeb could support the lower-spec kit running Ubuntu and similar... allow their Totem plugin access to the high-def iplayer streeams
[16:10] <alexcockell> until Adobe get their act together
[16:10] <ali1234> i've never seen that totem plugin work
[16:11] <ali1234> it always just hangs when i try to use it
[16:11] <alexcockell> *facepalm*
[16:11] <alexcockell> And by doing this - they only piss off their early adopters etc...
[16:11] <ali1234> early adopters of iplayer?
[16:12] <alexcockell> OK - maybe I meant tech-savvy people.. the ones who know what's going on..
[16:13] <ali1234> i just tried a stage 3d demo and it seems to work
[16:13] <ali1234> what part did they remove?
[16:14] <Myrtti> totem-plugin?
[16:14] <Myrtti> have I missed out on something
[16:14] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: totem BBC plugin
[16:15] <alexcockell> It's more the overlaying bit...
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> it's not in oneiric
[16:15] <Myrtti> AW DAMNIT
[16:15] <Myrtti> I was already looking for it :-(
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> it might be in -plugins-extra
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> totem-plugins-extra*
[16:16] <MartijnVdS>     * Stream BBC programs
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: ^
[16:17] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: sorry for the confusion ;)
[16:17]  * Myrtti rubs her hands together
[16:17] <Myrtti> eeeexcellent
[16:18]  * AlanBell breaks unity3d :(
[16:18] <MartijnVdS> "Myrtti Burns"
[16:19] <AlanBell> never had any problems with the stability of compiz until unity came along
[16:26] <alexcockell> TOTP 1976 is listed under BBC1 - rather than BBC4...
[16:27] <alexcockell> ARGH!  They let you see the list of programmes - but no streaming!
[16:28] <alexcockell> Thanks to those STUPID decisions they made re DRM...
[16:31] <Myrtti> I can't even see the list of programmes, only the subject areas
[16:31] <Myrtti> boo.
[16:38] <mattt> afternoon all
[16:41] <alexcockell> Myrtti - try the twisties-  what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:09] <Myrtti> alexcockell: 11.10
[17:53] <jacobw> evening
[18:05] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/426006  UDS-P photos are up
[18:14] <gord> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2618871/in/album/426006 - rare sighting of the popey-shark - breaching in the wild
[18:16] <penguin42> eep scary
[19:39] <penguin42> . --------~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *
[19:41]  * jacobw nods
[19:42] <MartijnVdS> morse code?
[19:42] <penguin42> that's a rocket!
[19:42] <MartijnVdS> ah yes
[19:43] <MartijnVdS> it's that night again
[19:43]  * jacobw rotates his screen
[19:43]  * penguin42 doesn't seem to be able to see any from the park across the road yet
[19:43] <jacobw> its odd not having any animals to look after this firework night
[19:47] <MartijnVdS> Ah, the traditional V for Vendetta on TV tonight :)
[19:48] <stevepdp> MartijnVdS, what channel?
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> stevepdp: BBC2 22:45
[19:49] <stevepdp> gdgd, doesn't conflict with Merlin :-)
[19:49] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: enjoying our FreeSat eh? ;)
[19:49] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: I also have the bluray but yes :)
[19:50] <jacobw> Traditional?
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> well
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> I'd say it's becoming a tradition
[19:51] <MartijnVdS> hm, this seems to be the first time it's been broadcast on Nov 5
[19:51] <MartijnVdS> Strange BBC is strange
[19:58] <SuprEngr> o/
[19:58] <SuprEngr> ..& a phhhschwoooooooos.... bang to you all
[19:58] <MartijnVdS> & to you
[19:58] <SuprEngr> ;)
[19:59] <jacobw> hi SuprEngr
[20:01] <SuprEngr> hi MartijnVdS, hi jacobw  - got your virtual phhhschwoooooooos.... bangs ready for Guy Fawkes?
[20:01] <alexcockell> Had enoughof the real ones detonating near me for DIwali AND firework night..
[20:02] <SuprEngr> alexcockell, I was in Handsworth [working] on Diwali... loud!
[20:02] <SuprEngr> [but as to festival of lights... nothing
[20:03] <alexcockell> Yeah - somehow they manage to get hold of professtional fireworks - and light then in stamp-sized gardens..
[20:03] <alexcockell> ITV - loads of hopelesses massacring tracks...
[20:05] <SuprEngr> alexcockell, +1
[20:05] <jacobw> make: *** No rule to make target `sense'. Stop.
[20:05] <alexcockell> They're actually playing out Trammps, S-Express etc as the intro.. or do I go to Radio 2 whwere they;'re playing out 70s stuff?
[20:06] <SuprEngr> jacobw, I'm impressed - you saw my post to mail list?
[20:06] <jacobw> SuprEngr: no
[20:07] <SuprEngr> jacobw, whine re seahorse-plugins... it ends up with that msg
[20:08] <SuprEngr> ..so +1 to your vote
[20:09] <jacobw> i'm not currently subscribed to the mailing list
[20:09] <SuprEngr> ["it" being attempts to do what I needed]
[20:10] <SuprEngr> jacobw, shame on you ;)
[20:10] <alexcockell> I know it'soff-topic.. but Oh Dear God.... Act one out of the blocks has ruined both Abba and Dead Or Alive...
[20:11] <jacobw> i need to sort out the postfix server on my domain for virtual users and mailboxes so i can subscribe to lists with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:12] <SuprEngr> ooo... Men In Black on Ch5  :)
[20:12] <jacobw> [uknot] is high volume
[20:12] <SuprEngr> muuuuch betta
[20:12] <jacobw> i love that film :)
[20:17] <alexcockell> I take it none of us are into going out on a cold night... MUCH nicer to have a warm netbook...
[20:18] <SuprEngr> ok - break in movie - anyone know of replacement for seahorse-plugins in 11.10?
[20:18] <SuprEngr> [netbook recharging... nice & warm}
[20:20] <SuprEngr> oh to be a recharging battery pack plugged in and powered... cozy ;)
[20:20] <jacobw> SuprEngr: what does seahorse-plugins do that seahorse doesn't?
[20:21] <SuprEngr> adda an "encypt" optoin to right click in Nautilus
[20:21] <SuprEngr> ...should also add a "decrypt"
[20:22] <SuprEngr> ...but decrypt disappeared mid 11.04... still working that one out !
[20:23] <jacobw> I see, nautilus integration :)
[20:25] <SuprEngr> precisely...
[20:26] <SuprEngr> ...[but now snafu'd in 11.10
[20:29] <jacobw> how annoying
[20:29] <alexcockell> I think I read something about that - they could have said "it was difficult for the user to set up... so we ripped it out"
[20:30] <alexcockell> sorry - "may
[20:31] <alexcockell> Oh - if anyone is watching the carcrash on ITV1 - one act is about to wreck a Shalamar track...
[20:32] <SuprEngr> alexcockell, did you also read where package could be got?
[20:33] <jacobw> asymetric encryption does confuse people
[20:33] <alexcockell> Nah - saw it in passing.
[20:33] <SuprEngr> p.s "carcrash" - not politically good atm
[20:33] <SuprEngr> m5 cough
[20:33] <alexcockell> Yeah - but how else do you describe acts ruining old classic tracks?
[20:34] <alexcockell> How else do you describe X Factor?
[20:34] <jacobw> you can't choose to watch X Factor and then complain
[20:34] <SuprEngr> actually  - o now you put that way... ;)
[20:36] <alexcockell> Umm - isn't it a musical equivalent of leaving Sandygate then rubbernecking?  And giving Sky News some footage?
[20:38]  * SuprEngr has a sneaky feeling it's just the 3 of us here atm... guess all the others are going phhhschwoooooooos.... bang
[20:38] <alexcockell> Especially when they wreck old Shalamar?
[20:39] <alexcockell> Or, if you're near families celebrating Diwali or Eid - BANG
[20:39] <alexcockell> or more CRRRUMP
[20:40] <SuprEngr> ..or vee cud control ze channel & move on to vorld domination... ya ha ha ha ha ha
[20:44] <SuprEngr> Eid, Diwali, /Guy Fawkes night... what hope for the lower atmosphere tonight!
[20:44] <jacobw> when is V on tonight?
[20:45] <SuprEngr> jacobw, 'V'... as in the sci-fi series?  is it on somewhere?
[20:46] <jacobw> MartijnVdS said 'V for Vendetta' was on BBC tonight
[20:46] <SuprEngr> doh!
[20:46] <jacobw> !bbc
[20:47] <jacobw> luobotu needs to be able to tell us what's on TV
[20:47] <jacobw> ah, max payne is on c4 at 9
[20:47] <ali1234> bbc2 10.45
[20:52] <SuprEngr> o/ ali1234
[20:53] <SuprEngr> but Dave has better
[20:55]  * MartijnVdS baked someting really yummy & breadish
[20:55] <SuprEngr> bread & butter pud?
[20:55] <SuprEngr> ...or toast
[20:56] <MartijnVdS> SuprEngr: no it's bread but with some sugar and olive oil added
[20:56] <MartijnVdS> the dough was very sticky and wet
[20:56] <SuprEngr> yum
[20:56] <MartijnVdS> but the bread is nice and soft and tastes REALLY good
[20:57]  * SuprEngr hides in jealousy
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> aww
[21:36] <shauno> ugh.  60% packet loss, *again*.    :D
[22:22] <brobostigon> mattt: but that is a good example of the right kind, of challenge. not idiocy.
[22:23] <mattt> true
[22:23]  * mattt is off to learn some python
[22:25] <brobostigon> :)
[22:26]  * SuprEngr thought this was an intelligent channel but smirks to think think peeps actually do watch refuse
[22:33]  * mattt raises an eyebrow at SuprEngr


[00:20] <rww> hi
[00:20] <rww> can i have factoid editing privs
[00:20] <IdleOne> only if you submit the correct forms in triplicate
[00:21] <rww> where are the forms
[00:21] <rww> did you make a Launchpad group for it
[00:21] <rww> i bet you did
[00:21] <IdleOne> I have made no such groups
[00:21] <rww> i meant you as in The Man
[00:21] <IdleOne> I know what you meant. I answered accordingly
[00:22] <rww> o
[00:22] <IdleOne> hehe
[00:22] <rww> !canibeanfactoidreviewer
[00:22] <IdleOne> would be fine with me, but I think you might need to click one of the join team buttons for the channel you currently are a op in so you can be officially op again
[00:23] <LjL> -1
[00:23] <rww> but then i'd have to wait ages for The Process to happen and probably get turned down :(
[00:23] <LjL> hopefully
[00:23] <IdleOne> your fellow ops don't have much faith in you.
[00:23] <rww> LjL: if you showed affection in a more positive way somebody would probably love you :(
[00:24] <LjL> fu
[00:24] <rww> LjL: ok
[00:24] <LjL> and that's not an acronym
[00:24] <rww> o
[00:24] <LjL> just me stopping typing before it was too late
[00:24] <rww> IdleOne: to be fair, LjL saying i shouldn't be an op is practically a ringing endorsement
[00:24] <LjL> but what i meant to say was "fuck you"
[00:24] <rww> LjL: ok
[00:24] <IdleOne> LjL: cmon dude :./
[00:24] <IdleOne> that is a tear
[00:25] <rww> but seriously, I used to have factoid editing access, and i am good at it, and i would not abuse it and we all know that
[00:25] <LjL> yeah yeah
[00:25] <LjL> but you need to be an op
[00:25] <LjL> it's part of the law
[00:25] <rww> no it isn't
[00:25] <LjL> rww, come on
[00:25] <LjL> there is a book
[00:25] <rww> and that isn't in it
[00:25] <LjL> it was written more than 2000 years ago
[00:25] <LjL> it says things
[00:25] <elky> i obviously cannot vote here, but i will be able to inflict punishments if he misbehaves :P
[00:25] <IdleOne> I'm not saying you need to be an op. I think it would be nice if you came back to the dark side
[00:25] <LjL> elky: kinky
[00:25] <LjL> take vids
[00:26] <rww> elky can't actually punish me
[00:26] <elky> LjL: it'd more be the lack of something
[00:26] <rww> she just has delusions of grandeur
[00:26] <rww> elky: no video? so i wouldn't have to use jitsi?
[00:26] <rww> IdleOne: sigh
[00:26] <elky> i could stop talking to you :P
[00:27] <rww> IdleOne: there, can I have factoid editing access now
[00:27] <IdleOne> I don't have (that I know of) access to grant you access to the bot like that
[00:28]  * LjL wonders about something
[00:29] <elky> IdleOne: you forget how leadership works then
[00:29] <rww> "TODO write simple manual for users and operators with the basic stuff needed for everyday use. "
[00:29] <rww> lol
[00:30] <tsimpson> pretty sure you already (still) have factoid editing and bantracker access
[00:30] <rww> tsimpson: I don't
[00:30] <rww> hrm
[00:30] <rww> @login
[00:30] <IdleOne> So what I am getting here is that I should just assume the role of decision maker and do stuff.?
[00:30] <rww> what
[00:30] <rww> w h a t
[00:30] <rww> @btlogin
[00:30] <rww> ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahaa
[00:30] <elky> you really ought to tell derpy all this some time
[00:31] <LjL> adding editing privileges is not everyday
[00:31] <LjL> it should be done every
[00:31] <LjL> never
[00:31] <LjL> anyway nope, i'm not admin
[00:31] <LjL> had a hunch i was at some point
[00:31] <rww> elky: ikr. I don't tyhink he ever changed his accountname though
[00:32] <IdleOne> So, you have access. get out and don't break the things you can break
[00:32]  * LjL blinks
[00:35] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic 	rww 	elky 	Jun 09 2013 05:33:29 	Show log inline | full 	55523
[00:35] <rww> (♥)
[00:35] <rww> elky, Jun 09 2013 05:33:29
[00:35] <rww> :3
[00:35] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic 	rww 	elky 	Oct 12 2011 03:55:48 	Show log inline | full 	44105
[00:35] <rww> (:P)
[00:35] <rww> elky, Oct 12 2011 03:55:48
[00:36] <rww> somewhat change in attitude over time
[12:55] <Guest29906> is he for serious
[12:55] <ikonia> who / what /where ?
[12:56] <Guest29906> -ot
[12:56] <ikonia> isn't he just asking/trying to educate people on nickserv ?
[12:57] <LjL> yeah right
[12:57] <LjL> 'cause i was clearly not identified before, and he clearly didn't actually know and point out i was an op
[12:57] <LjL> and i also didn't blame my connectivity for the dropout
[12:58] <ikonia> I wasn't following, so I don't know what's been going on before the last 10 lines
[12:58] <LjL> note how, just now, i ghosted my Milan client, and right after he "explained" GHOST to me
[12:58] <LjL> he's trolling me hard :P
[13:02] <LjL> now i feel a little guilty ;(
[13:10] <LjL> s/a little//
[16:44] <DJones> well that was fun
[16:57] <jhutchins> Sorry for the multiple edit on ubottu.
[19:19] <LjL> topyli: can you tell Facebook that, yes, i actually do know you, but they can stop asking?
[19:20] <IdleOne> haha
[19:20] <LjL> seriously they ask me like every single day, and i don't even have access to that account anymore
[19:21] <LjL> it's like... wake up, have breakfast, check email, penis enlargment, cialis, viagra, ircc elections, do you know juha siltala
[19:38] <topyli> all those must be somehow connected!
[20:36] <LjL> someone give mist a chill pill
[20:36] <LjL> he sounds angrier than me when i'm on my p... i mean, when i have reasons to be!
[20:36] <LjL> although, the fact LjL^ lost its Away *again* does irk me a little
[21:22] <LjL> "pro rationa volontas"?
[21:22] <LjL> that isn't even a language
[21:36] <LjL> hggdh: fix your quit message, or explain why it looks so broken!
[21:45] <DJones> Looks like Latin
[21:46] <LjL> yes, except wrong
[21:47] <DJones> Don't expect me to translate it, I got thrown out language classes at school for getting French & Spanish mixed up every lesson
[21:48] <LjL> c'est tres domage, verguenza
[21:57] <hggdh> LjL: it is Latin
[21:57] <hggdh> not broken, just a different language
[21:57] <LjL> nu-uh
[21:57] <LjL> because volontas doesn't mean anything, and neither does rationa ;(
[21:58] <hggdh> LjL: bah. ratione, voluntas
[21:59] <LjL> bonus puer nunc es
[21:59] <hggdh> that's what you get for writing it while under the influence, and never looking at it again (after all, I will already have left
[22:00] <hggdh> LjL: thanks for the heads up, will fix
[22:04] <hggdh> LjL: by the way, this is how I address my dog when he behaves ;-) -- bonus puer
[22:07] <LjL> :P
[22:17] <bazhang> bwhaha
[22:17] <bazhang> that was a short hiatus LjL
[22:19] <LjL> oh i'm still on hiatus
[22:19] <LjL> but i can actually join this specific channel
[22:19] <LjL> in fact, i think being snarky and you guys will probably only help
[22:19] <LjL> at*
[23:31] <knome> anybody from the council up and around?
[23:32] <IdleOne> yes
[23:32] <LjL> IdleOne: he meant the real council
[23:33] <IdleOne> oh
[23:33] <IdleOne> then no
[23:37] <knome> IdleOne, we need a redirect...
[23:37] <knome> IdleOne, #ubuntu-wiki to #ubuntu-doc
[23:38]  * IdleOne tries to remember how to do that
[23:40] <LjL> uhm, it would be nice if #ubuntu-doc had proper flags set in the first place, though
[23:53] <IdleOne> knome: should be good now
[23:53] <knome> IdleOne, cheers!
[23:53]  * LjL hands IdleOne a tissue for the sweat


[02:38] <nhaines> Gareth: Just a running tab--got in touch with and got commitments from every speaker, so I should get bios and talk summaries and etc. this weekend.
[02:42] <Gareth> nhaines: cool.  have they registered in the CFP system and submittd their talks? :)
[02:44] <nhaines> No, but they are on notice.  :)
[02:44] <nhaines> But you should get them the same time I do.  Should be weekend at the latest.
[02:45] <nhaines> Gareth: Also am I getting a speaker badge or an exhibitor badge?
[02:45] <nhaines> Seems I see the booth less and less every year.  :P
[02:59] <Gareth> nhaines: did you already register?
[03:00] <pleia2> oh, I haven't registered yet
[03:00] <Gareth> nhaines: exhibitor badge is handy for setup...we try to only allow exhibitor in to setup during setup hours.
[03:00] <pleia2> Gareth: should I be getting a special speaker code to register with?
[03:00] <Gareth> pleia2: you can wait and be a speaker or register now and be an exhibitor.
[03:01] <akk> pleia2: Speakers are automatically registered, or so it said in the mailing I got a few days ago.
[03:01] <pleia2> speaker > exhibitor
[03:01] <Gareth> pleia2: what akk said :)
[03:01] <pleia2> oh, ok :)
[03:01] <pleia2> thanks
[03:10] <nhaines> Gareth: yeah, I already registered myself and my crew.
[03:11] <nhaines> Gareth: my registration number is 16.  :D
[03:49] <Gareth> nhaines: you're in as an exhibitor.
[06:02] <MarkDude> Tonight is last night to reserve room for Scale for cheaper price
[06:02] <MarkDude> grantbow, if you can make it down, there would be a room paid for you
[06:02] <MarkDude> You would share with Alex Alcosta
[06:22] <MarkDude> dragon, ping
[06:30] <dragon> MarkDude: pong
[06:31] <MarkDude> You going to Scale?
[06:31] <MarkDude> Good place to have some fun
[06:33] <dragon> MarkDude: well, first things first...
[06:34] <dragon> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
[06:34] <dragon> (belated)
[06:34] <MarkDude> Cool, ty
[18:14] <Corey> So who else is schlepping to SCaLE in a couple of weeks?
[18:14]  * pleia2 raises hand again
[18:15] <pleia2> we'll have an ubuntu booth there
[18:15] <Corey> pleia2: I'll be working at the Salt booth for a bit.
[18:18]  * akk raises a hand
[18:21]  * nhaines raises a hand.
[18:38] <MarkDude> \o
[18:38] <MarkDude> Hell YEs to Scale
[18:44] <nhaines> I'm looking forward to the Ubuntu concept design being shown at CES next week.  Mainly because I'm sure to be asked questions about it at Ubucon.