[07:22] <Perseid0> Hi. Now here's a silly question for ya: I'm trying to get an xmodmap to run at startup, so I have a script file in .kde/Autostart.  You mean "THE Internet"?
[07:23] <Warbo> jn: gnome-volume-manager is handling it
[07:23] <rredd4> mistform  a lot of internet server are linux
[07:23] <ballpointcarrot> Warbo: read: Apache?
[07:24] <Warbo> ballpointcarrot: But Apache works on BSD and stuff too. Stupid FLOSS and their compatibility
[07:24] <bruenig> mistform, it is not linux that is making it slow, perhaps instead of flaming, you could explain your problem
[07:24] <kakalto> anyone else had problems with en_NZ locales?
[07:24] <rredd4> mistform I use a wireless card via cable internet, I get same speed as windoze
[07:25] <ballpointcarrot> I seem to get much better network support under linux than windows (circa 200 kb/s
[07:25] <Subdee> ballpointcarrot, sorry to bother you but after reinstalling and restarting X, I still have the same issue
[07:25] <jn> how do i edit gnome-volume mgr
[07:26] <Warbo> My network speed is about the same, but Windows would have me believe that my 1Mb/sec connection is 2Mb/sec for some reason
[07:26] <ballpointcarrot> Subdee: let me look into it.
[07:26] <abhinay> anybody help !  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19457
[07:26] <Subdee> ok
[07:27] <bruenig> abhinay, try 'gksudo gedit' just to humor me
[07:27] <Warbo> Just for the record, I am VERY impressed with the LiveCD. It works just as well as my installation did before I broke it. Network, 3D accel,  sound. The only difference is the theme :)
[07:28] <backz_> Hi, I've two net providers, one by cable another by adsl. can I join both and use 'all powerful' ?
[07:28] <ballpointcarrot> Subdee: try the language-support-el package
[07:28] <abhinay> bruenig: gdsudo gedit   ---->       GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:28] <abhinay> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:28] <Subdee> ballpointcarrot, it seems to just be the volume control applet and the home folder shortcut from my top panel that show question marks. the other applets display Greek fine when you hover over them
[07:29] <Subdee> i've already installed it and reinstalled it
[07:29] <bruenig> abhinay, but did it open?
[07:29] <abhinay> bruenig: not opened
[07:29] <Warbo> abhinay: That usually happens for me as well. It is just a warning, not an error
[07:29] <jn> Warbo: how do i change settings in gnome volume mgr
[07:29] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:~$ gnome-volume-manager
[07:29] <jn> (gnome-volume-manager:12455): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[07:30] <ballpointcarrot> Subdee: maybe the translations are made incomplete.  other than that, you should have all of the greek language support packages.
[07:30] <Warbo> jn: I would REALLY like to know that myself :) Whenever anybody has a mounting problem I have to tell them to add stuff to fstab (not ideal for removable drives)
[07:30] <tich> nalioth, i rebooted but it didn't work... the warning says: could not look up internet address for xxxx-laptop....
[07:30] <bruenig> abhinay, tell me if this opens something "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:30] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[07:30] <Warbo> hi
[07:30] <Subdee> it must be the translations. i should've checked, i am part of the translation team!!! thanks for your help
[07:30] <KnowledgEngi> someone know how can i register a nick ?
[07:31] <Warbo> !freenode
[07:31] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[07:31] <abhinay> bruenig: not working
[07:31] <nalioth> tich: i'm all out of ideas   :(
[07:31] <nalioth> !tell KnowledgEngi about register
[07:32] <abhinay> Warbo: yes, it is a warning, but gedit is not opening
[07:32] <Warbo> abhinay: Then something else is the problem, since that cannot cause Gedit to malfunction
[07:33] <ballpointcarrot> abhinay: does gedit open on it's own?
[07:33] <tich> nalioth, thnx.
[07:33] <mistform> the internet was working way faster than this on my girlfriends P3 laptop with Win2k
[07:33] <mdirc> OpenSSH 4.2p1 sshd_config in ubuntu does not allow the PermitTunnel, and ssh_config allow Tunnel option. I need tunneling how do I enable it? TIA
[07:33] <jn> /dev/sda2: 4391 files, 3839875/7301320 clusters
[07:33] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:/mnt/ipod$ mkdir hi
[07:33] <jn> mkdir: cannot create directory `hi': No space left on device
[07:33] <jn> what gives
[07:33] <mistform> it takes around 10 seconds to connect a server, let alone load the page
[07:33] <bruenig> abhinay, try this to see if there is some problem with sudoing 'gksudo nautilus'
[07:34] <nalioth> jn: you are out of space on your drive
[07:34] <nalioth> jn: delete some unused cruft
[07:34] <Warbo> jn: Maybe a permission problem (works for me though)
[07:34] <jn> thats not true
[07:34] <jn> i have 14+ gigs free
[07:34] <mdirc> OpenSSH 4.2p1 sshd_config in ubuntu doesn't allow the PermitTunnel, and ssh_config doesn't allow Tunnel option. I need tunneling how do I enable it? TIA
[07:34] <jn> 3839875/7301320 clusters
[07:34] <Warbo> jn: You need at least 51GB to make an empty folder, everyone knows that :)
[07:35] <ballpointcarrot> jn: stupid question, but are you sure that /dev/sda2 points to /mnt/ipod?
[07:35] <jn> yes
[07:35] <ballpointcarrot> okay.
[07:35] <Warbo> jn: I thought it was /media/ipod?
[07:36] <jn> maybe it is full..
[07:36] <Warbo> Is there a text file which lists what packages are installed? (commands like "dpkg -l" will not help me)
[07:36] <kakalto> how can I remove certain locales from my system?
[07:37] <Warbo> kakalto: Package manager?
[07:37] <bruenig> mistform, your girlfriend's laptop was connected to the same modem that you are connected to now?
[07:37] <kakalto> nvm, ubotu has it ;)
[07:37] <kakalto> Warbo: doubt it
[07:37] <kakalto> thanks anyway
[07:37] <KnowledgEngi> exist some software that convert non-free video to free-video format ?
[07:37] <mistform> bruenig: yes, it was
[07:37] <Warbo> |sudo aptitude remove language-support-XX"
[07:37] <mistform> and hers was wireless, this isn't wireless
[07:37] <lmosher> I'm trying to compile wine and this is giving me a headache: "checking for GL/glx.h... no" (and other GL header files)
[07:37] <lmosher> what package do I need to install to get GL header files?
[07:38] <Warbo> Oops, " not | (stuck in US keyboard layout)
[07:38] <bruenig> mistform, were they the same pages, as the lag in speed could be related to the server you are downloading from
[07:38] <Warbo> lmosher: Get some -dev packages which seem relevant (mesa and stuff)
[07:38] <ballpointcarrot> Warbo: used to another kb layout?
[07:38] <rob138> how come my 250GB usb drive is only showing up as 232?
[07:39] <Overand> rob138: manufactures call 250"gigs" 250,000,000 bytes
[07:39] <Warbo> lmosher: Try "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" to install the dependencies needed to build WINE, without actually installing WINE itself
[07:39] <Overand> which is 1000*1000
[07:39] <Overand> in the 'real world' it's 1024*1024
[07:39] <rob138> Overand, so i really only have 230?
[07:39] <Warbo> ballpointcarrot: En-GB (I just pressed enter on the CD's boot menu)
[07:39] <Overand> rob138: yep
[07:39] <bruenig> 250,000,000,000 isn't it?
[07:39] <Overand> bruenig: probably
[07:39] <Overand> I'm drinking SAKe
[07:39] <Overand> yeah
[07:39] <Overand> thgat's a 250 meg
[07:39] <Overand> heh
[07:40] <Overand> 22:39 -!- Irssi:<PHONE_NUMBER>00/1024/1024/1024 =<PHONE_NUMBER>5387
[07:40] <Overand> yeah
[07:40] <Overand> that's it
[07:40] <ballpointcarrot> Overand: decimal problems...?
[07:40] <rob138> Overand, okay, well it's at /dev/sbd1/ and under the HD, it has a second partition /dev/sbd2/ that is at /media/ipod i think because i also plugin my ipod at the same slot, is there something i should change?
[07:40] <Overand> ballpointcarrot: what's a few orders of magnitude between friends, eh?
[07:40] <ballpointcarrot> heh
[07:40] <thorsten> hi
[07:40] <lmosher> Warbo, ty for the build-dep tip.. wow that's a LOT of dev packages :P
[07:41] <snoops> gosh I hope more programs and such start using the GiB convention instead of GB
[07:41] <ballpointcarrot> anyone else wish they'd put build-essential on the install cd?
[07:41] <Warbo> lmosher: It is useful, but only works when a deb-src package is already in Ubuntu. Problem is, most people compiling source are getting something outside Ubutnu :)
[07:42] <Overand> my first hard drive was 40 megs
[07:42] <thorsten> i am thinking about cross-upgrading from debian unstable to ubuntu. reason would be that there are packages in ubuntu which are built for 686, not 386. is this right, and apart from that, would it be doable by apt-getting the packages? in the FAQ, it seems to be not too hard, though they describe the way from woody to warty, not from sid to hoary...
[07:42] <bruenig> ballpointcarrot, if you are going to use build-essential, you are likely downloading programs from the internet, i.e. a quick sudo apt-get build-essential should not be a problem
[07:42] <rob138> what would not be copied in a "cp -rv" command?
[07:42] <Overand> or was it 170, and my second was 40?
[07:42] <Overand> hm
[07:42] <ballpointcarrot> bruenig: good point.
[07:42] <timalot> anyone know how to reset a key(s) in gconf2 to it's default value?
[07:42] <Warbo> Overand: Did your 170 run out of space for your movie bittorrents? :)
[07:43] <nalioth> thorsten: i suggest you get a list of all your installed proggys and clean install Ubuntu and use dpkg to put all your pkgs back
[07:43] <tshidi> hello all
[07:43] <nalioth> thorsten:  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[07:44] <rob138> is there a command that can compare 2 directories?
[07:44] <Warbo> OK, I think I have backed up enough stuff for me to be comfortable in a clean install. Now I'm going to try the graphical installer for the first time
[07:44] <nalioth> rob138: diff ?
[07:44] <thorsten> nalioth: thx, will read it and decide afterwards
[07:44] <voltagex> hi, is there something I need to do to open ports on the default ubuntu-server install?
[07:45] <bruenig> Warbo, the graphical install's only problem for me was partitioning, so if you are just going to keep your partition table, you may not be able to see the frustrations
[07:45] <KnowledgEngi> for default ubuntu can show only ogg video format
[07:45] <rob138> nalioth, no way, that simple?
[07:45] <KnowledgEngi> ??
[07:45] <nalioth> rob138: linux was made by lazy programmers    :0
[07:45] <blinker> voltagex: if so, that would explain a couple issues i've been having =p
[07:45] <Madpilot> KnowledgEngi, that's corrrect, as far as I know
[07:45] <thorsten> cu
[07:45] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, I know it can shot ogg video format and can't show others, I am not sure if that is the only format though
[07:46] <voltagex> blinker: ports are open on the local machine but not open to the rest of the LAN?
[07:46] <Warbo> bruenig: I will probably end up mounting my stuff in /home/chris/Files manually through fstab, but I've done that kind of thing loads. My main worry is restoring my backed up settings and stuff (from /var/lib)
[07:46] <blinker> voltagex: no, its more concerning repo updates
[07:46] <Warbo> !restricted
[07:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <KnowledgEngi> exist some video converter ???
[07:46] <Warbo> !info mencoder
[07:46] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 2912 kB, installed size 7004 kB
[07:47] <nalioth> KnowledgEngi: transcode?
[07:47] <KnowledgEngi> something like wmv2ogg
[07:47] <Warbo> !info ffmpeg2theora
[07:47] <ubotu> ffmpeg2theora: Theora video encoder using ffmpeg. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 1228 kB, installed size 3136 kB
[07:47] <Warbo> (Ogg video is actually Theora codec inside an ogg container)
[07:47] <bruenig> MP32OGG is cool for music, one simple command and then 2 hours later it is done
[07:48] <Warbo> bruenig: I prefer to tweak setting on a per-file basis, but that is mainly for video (since the quality settigns and codecs can vary wildly)
[07:49] <Warbo> A word of caution: ffmpeg2theora doesn't seem to like some .mov formats, so check your new files before deleting the old ones!
[07:51] <blinker> are there any known fixes for hibernate mode on laptops? I keep getting a 'devices full' type error on hibernate, then it starts right back up
[07:51] <netzwurm> hi.
[07:51] <Warbo> hello
[07:51] <yann> hello
[07:51] <netzwurm> why does hotplug not ifup interfaces that are plugged into the pccard slot?
[07:51] <blinker> i hate when i do that
[07:52] <Geoffrey2> I was told vmware could be used to run Windows in a virtual machine...beyond the vmware-player, what would I need to install to make that work?  apparently I'd need a pre-built VM...where would I look to find the one I would need?
[07:53] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, you can just install vmware server.  there's a howto on it.
[07:54] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: If VMWare can use raw disc images then you could install in Qemu, then switch it over to VMWare to get better speed
[07:54] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[07:54] <netzwurm> Geoffrey2: use the trial version of vmware, create you image, use it with the player.
[07:54] <Warbo> OK, the trial/server is easier :)
[07:54] <netzwurm> Geoffrey2: and uninstall the trial.
[07:55] <rtaylor> vmware server is free
[07:55] <rtaylor> you can learn to use that
[07:55] <mistform> why would Terminal say "Cannot Open Input File"
[07:55] <imbrandon> netzwurm: server is free
[07:57] <basilio> i have no sound, how do i correct this error
[07:57] <Warbo> !sound
[07:57] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:57] <nalioth> warbo can you use !tell NICK about FACTOID ? it helps out in more than one way
[07:58] <basilio> i dont have the MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR
[07:58] <Warbo> nalioth: OK
[07:59] <Warbo> nalioth: Does that work with !info?
[07:59] <Warbo> (!info package > nick)
[07:59] <userundefine> !info mysql > Warbo
[07:59] <ubotu> Package mysql does not exist in dapper
[08:00] <userundefine> guess not.
[08:00] <teimu> hi ubuntu, does anyone know any apps that can capture audio recordings from an audio device?
[08:00] <nalioth> !tell warbo about sound
[08:01] <rtaylor> teimu, audacity is probably one of the best for that
[08:01] <Warbo> nalioth: Yeah, I get the system but was wondering about !info, that's all (like I could !info audacity > teimu)
[08:01] <mcquaid> anyone good with sox?
[08:02] <mistform> why would the terminal say "Cannot Open Input File"?
[08:02] <teimu> rtaylor, o cool. i actually have that already (this isnt my comp, so i didnt know what it did)
[08:02] <synic> 'cause the file does't exist?
[08:02] <mistform> yeah, it does
[08:02] <mistform> I double check the filename a hundred times
[08:02] <synic> permissions?
[08:02] <mistform> I even copied the filename, cuz it has a I character, wich could be an L or an i
[08:02] <synic> mistform: use tab completion
[08:02] <synic> waay easier.
[08:02] <mistform> tab completion?
[08:03] <nalioth> Warbo: unfortunately i don't think you can send the info factoids, but the person CAN /msg ubotu info $PKGNAME
[08:03] <userundefine> type some of the filename and hit [TAB]
[08:03] <synic> type the first three letters of the file, then press tab
[08:03] <Warbo> nalioth: Ok, thanks
[08:03] <mistform> mmkay
[08:03] <mistform> ty, synic, I'll try it
[08:04] <abhinay> where is the font directory ?
[08:04] <bll3r87> hello everyone
[08:04] <Madpilot> abhinay, .fonts
[08:05] <cowmilk> i have a p3 500 mhz comp with 128 to 192 mb Ram. Do you guys recommend Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[08:05] <userundefine> Xubuntu
[08:05] <cowmilk> I say 128 to 192 because I don't know yet if i can move a SIMM card onto this box
[08:05] <synic> I'd personally still use ubuntu.
[08:05] <cowmilk> synic: would i notice the difference in speed?
[08:05] <cowmilk> why would you?
[08:05] <cowmilk> synic: ?
[08:06] <synic> I'm patient
[08:06] <bigbill52a> i would try to get it up to 256 megs
[08:06] <bigbill52a> just installed ubuntu onto a p2 350 mhz
[08:06] <synic> I ran kde on a machine with those specs just fine for a long time
[08:06] <dribble> cowmilk, i'd say xubuntu
[08:07] <Warbo> Wow I love Ubuntu. Try chatting on IRC and playing MP3s during a Windows installation :)
[08:07] <Warbo> (oh, and web browsing)
[08:07] <synic> or you could just like... not install windows
[08:07] <rtaylor> Warbo, windows isn't a real os
[08:07] <rtaylor> its mostly a toy
[08:07] <bll3r87> i hate Microsoft
[08:07] <Warbo> rtaylor: No, it would never make it past child safety tests
[08:08] <rtaylor> Warbo, lol :) good line
[08:08] <Warbo> But it certainly passes the "no small parts" test :)
[08:08] <cowmilk> my p2 is connected to a motherboard that has 4 SIMM slots.  Welcome!
[08:10] <tchiboo> I would like to use PHP4
[08:10] <bll3r87> i just dont like microsoft
[08:10] <bll3r87> maybe personal prefrence
[08:10] <bll3r87> im not sure
[08:10] <Warbo> Does the installer's manual partition editor include the mountpoints (otherwise known as "use partition as:"), or is it just an embedded GParted?
[08:10] <tchiboo> and it doesn't work
[08:10] <bll3r87> just dont like it
[08:10] <bioticpro> How do I change the a bunch of filenames from upper to lowercase (cli) ?
[08:10] <jn> i had that set correctly but it still gave me the wrong time after ntdupdate.. so i deleted it
[08:10] <bigbill52a> i realize that it is beta...but i believe that those programs that i mentioned will have to be rewritten for vista....i use xnews all the time...
[08:10] <tchiboo> what did I missed ?
[08:10] <jn> the la line that is
[08:10] <Phoul> hello im having a small problem with apt-get update
[08:10] <teimu> bll3r87, alot of people come in to linux communities hating on windoze, but do they know why?
[08:10] <jn> to see if that would help, it didn't
[08:10] <Phoul> It seems to work fine then
[08:10] <Phoul> Then it just sits at 99% connecting to users.lichtsnel.nl(<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:11] <dribble> wow, that was the most relevant fanboy rant ever!
[08:11] <bigbill52a> but now i have switched to pan
[08:11] <bll3r87> i dont think that matters
[08:11] <Phoul> anyone know?
[08:11] <basilio> does ubuntu have some sort of SYSTEM RESTORE?
[08:11] <bll3r87> its personal prefrence
[08:11] <bll3r87> i dont like microsoft
[08:11] <userundefine> bigbill52a, probably.  but their popularity depends on them rewriting their software.
[08:11] <basilio> my computer has sound this morning, but not anymore after upgrade
[08:11] <userundefine> bll3r87, yeah, we get it.
[08:11] <linux_manju> jn: cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/<Closest TZ-file> > /etc/localtime
[08:11] <DShepherd> Phoul: can you ping that address? I cant
[08:11] <Madpilot> Folks, Ubuntu vs Windows chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:12] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:~$ cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/<Closest TZ-file> > /etc/localtime
[08:12] <bigbill52a> anyways i would rather use my extra hard drive for ubuntu..rather than for a beta...that was totally useless
[08:12] <jn> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `>'
[08:12] <bll3r87> haha noo i dont even care
[08:12] <Warbo> The installer's language preferences have reconfigured the LiveCD session on-the-fly so I now have a British layout! Wow
[08:12] <bll3r87> i use windows and i use linux
[08:12] <teimu> basilio, if you're really fucked, use the recovery mode/console. you cant usually un-delete things however. gnome and probably kde save things in thier respective "Trash"es, but rm is unrecoverable
[08:12] <bll3r87> im just trying to learn as much as I can about linux
[08:12] <linux_manju> jn: dont use < > they r for options
[08:12] <Warbo> !language
[08:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:12] <jn> oh i have to change <closest
[08:12] <jn> heh
[08:13] <bigbill52a> eye candy...i use windows 10 % of the time...
[08:13] <basilio> where is that mdoe/console recovery button
[08:13] <linux_manju> jn: yes.. and run it as root... ie sudo and the command
[08:13] <bll3r87> yea i use windows to do some things
[08:13] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:~$ cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los Angeles > /etc/localtime bash: /etc/localtime: No such file or directory
[08:13] <bll3r87> i get much better support with my sound card on microsoft
[08:13] <basilio> i cant wait to hear some sounds from this comp
[08:13] <Warbo> !tell bll3r87 about offtopic
[08:13] <Phoul> is there anyway to fix this it just sits at 99% connecting to users.lichtsnel.nl(<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:13] <bll3r87> !tell wardo im having a convensation with someone
[08:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell wardo im having a convensation with someone - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:13] <linux_manju> jn: check the file name in the /usr/share/zoneinfo/America
[08:14] <linux_manju> jn: Make sure to choose the nearest time zone
[08:14] <KnowledgEngi> i runned: ffmpeg2theora 3.mpeg
[08:14] <userundefine> Then do it in ubuntu-offtopic, please, bll3r87
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> play nice people
[08:14] <KnowledgEngi> but totem show nothing
[08:14] <jn> there is no /usr/shar/zoneinfo
[08:14] <Madpilot> bll3r87, you can keep the conversation going, but move it to #ubuntu-offtopic... thank you.
[08:14] <DShepherd> bll3r87: its offtopic.. please go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss such stuff
[08:14] <mistform> anyone ever tried this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:14] <bll3r87> damn
[08:14] <teimu> basilio, on boot, choose the recovery mode from GRUB. if you dont have grub to show up, insert an ubuntu disc. either way works
[08:14] <Warbo> !tell bll3r87 that the point of offtopic is to have a conversation with someone
[08:14] <linux_manju> jn: sudo cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles > /etc/localtime
[08:14] <linux_manju> jn: that should do it
[08:14] <bll3r87> sorry i dont want anyone to cry. . ill just sit here and watch the conversation
[08:15] <bll3r87> im just here to learn
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: this is an official support channel, so we invite people who just want to chat socially to go to the offtopic to free this channel for support discussions, thanks for understanding.
[08:15] <Warbo> Oops, I just got a message that "my request has been forwarded to the ops"
[08:15] <bll3r87> ok
[08:15] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:~$ sudo cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles > /etc/localtime
[08:15] <jn> bash: /etc/localtime: No such file or directory
[08:15] <bll3r87> thats cool w/me
[08:15] <bigbill52a> what im program uses the cam?
[08:15] <teimu> bll3r87, learn grasshoppa!
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> bigbill52a: Ekiga
[08:15] <bll3r87> the only diffrence between kde is gnome is the layout?
[08:15] <Warbo> bigbill52a: AMSN, GAIM 2 (beta) and Mercury that I know of
[08:16] <bigbill52a> this is the first time that i have ever gotten my logitech 510 to work
[08:16] <userundefine> bll3r87, not at all
[08:16] <DShepherd> bll3r87: there's more diff than that
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: layout, libraries, window decoration, apps, themes, etc.
[08:16] <teimu> bll3r87, nope
[08:16] <bll3r87> oh ok
[08:16] <bll3r87> so all together different
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: is that gaim beta available in repos?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: yes.
[08:16] <DShepherd> fyrestrtr: no
[08:17] <vbgunz> how do I use env to set a a variable of x=y ?
[08:17] <linux_manju> jn: did u put > after LosAngeles
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, might have to give it a try.
[08:17] <linux_manju> jn: sudo cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles > /etc/localtime
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> vbgunz: export x=y
[08:17] <jn> yup
[08:17] <linux_manju> jn: copy paste the above command
[08:17] <jn> there is no /etc/localtime bro
[08:17] <jn> i tried locate localtime
[08:17] <jn> should i create /etc/localtime
[08:17] <linux_manju> jn: Every uniz PC should have one :)
[08:17] <vbgunz> fyrestrtr: thank you man... I cannot believe I forgot that... I was trying to say env x=y
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> jn: just make it a symlink
[08:17] <jn> ok.. well i dont
[08:17] <vbgunz> fyrestrtr: thank you!
[08:17] <cowmilk> i'm thinking of having the p2 box donate its "organs" to a "younger generation"
[08:17] <jn> fyrestrtr: ?
[08:17] <linux_manju> jn: yup that shld do it
[08:18] <jn> how?
[08:18] <linux_manju> jn: sumlink..
[08:18] <Geoffrey2> I'm thinking I might install VMserver, then run 98se on it....should take up a lot less physical space and system resources, I would think
[08:18] <cowmilk> how can i check how much ram the box has?
[08:18] <linux_manju> jn: sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime
[08:18] <jn> make what a symlink? and how?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> jn: make a symlink /etc/localtime points to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles
[08:18] <linux_manju> cowmilk: free -m
[08:18] <cowmilk> linux_manju: thank
[08:18] <cowmilk> s
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> vbgunz: your welcome
[08:18] <linux_manju> cowmilk: np :)
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: do you need win98 for something? wine is a lot more lightweight.
[08:19] <teimu> jn a symlink is like a windoze shortcut, well a soft symlink that is
[08:19] <shawnr_> !symlink
[08:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:19] <jn> ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/localtime' to `/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles': File exists
[08:19] <jn> wtf
[08:19] <jn> now it exists?!
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> jn: ls -l /etc/localtime
[08:20] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:~$ ls -l /etc/localtime
[08:20] <jn> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2006-07-28 12:58 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> jn: it should already be a symlink if you set it up properly the first time
[08:20] <linux_manju> jn: Thats what i said.. that means the localtime file is there in etc :)
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> jn: its set up already
[08:20] <jn> ok
[08:20] <jn> rad
[08:20] <linux_manju> jn: copy paste this
[08:20] <jn> when will it take effect?
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, I've tried wine, and it seems like a great idea that just isn't ready for primetime yet
[08:20] <linux_manju> jn: sudo cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles > /etc/localtime
[08:20] <linux_manju> jn: no changes
[08:20] <jn> done that already linux_manju
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: what app have you tried running with it?
[08:21] <jn> so when does it change the time?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: the prime time factor depends 100% on the app you are trying to run.  If I already have my partitions set up, do I need to use the "manually edit partitions"? (I am not going to use erase disc, there is no free space and that was the only other option)
[08:21] <abhinay> how to add Merriam-Webster Dictionary source to the gnome default dictionary ?
[08:21] <Madpilot> jn, ease up on your Enter key a bit, please
[08:21] <jn> the correct time
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: you need the 'expert' option, I forgot what its called exactly.
[08:22] <teimu> Warbo, i think its "manually edit partition tables"
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: for best results, I recommend the alternate install cd.
[08:22] <Madpilot> Warbo, I think so, yes - the manual edit part can (IIRC) re-use an existing partition table
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: why are you running quicktime in windows? It should work in ubuntu natively.
[08:23] <jn> hwclock displays the correct time, it just hasn't changed in gnome as of yet..
[08:23] <Warbo> The partitions are set up, they are formatted, everything is fine, but I am wondering when it will ask for /
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> jn: logout, and log back in.
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: right as you click next, it will popup a warning saying no / partition defined.
[08:23] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: OK
[08:23] <cowmilk> sethk: you heer?
[08:24] <cowmilk> here?
[08:24] <KnowledgEngi> ufff
[08:24] <KnowledgEngi> no video
[08:24] <KnowledgEngi> no ogg
[08:24] <Warbo> Aha! There is a whole seperate page for mount points!
[08:24] <linux_manju> jn: are you using NTP?
[08:24] <KnowledgEngi> no mpg
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> um...Apple Quicktime? I wasn't aware there was even a Linux version of it....the Apple website doesn't show one
[08:24] <KnowledgEngi> exist some video format that ubuntu can read?
[08:24] <jn> linux_manju: i have
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: if you just want to play quicktime encoded stuff, you can do that in linux.
[08:24] <mistform> .avi
[08:24] <shawnr_> its not ubuntu
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <shawnr_> just install the right codecs
[08:25] <shawnr_> !codecs
[08:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:25] <KnowledgEngi> i think that the page is wrong
[08:25] <KnowledgEngi> becouse i has installed codecs 100 times
[08:25] <teimu> Geoffrey2, use mplayer. it can play qt. and theres a plugin for it in firefox too
[08:25] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, I've tried both totem-xine and mplayer, the playback on both is atrocious at best
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: you might have a video card issue then.
[08:25] <abhinay> is it possible to add Merriam-Webster dictionary as a source to the gnome default dictionary
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: I play .mov and .avi files here without issues.
[08:26] <teimu> fyrestrtr, likewise
[08:26] <Warbo> KnowledgEngi: Theora can be played by default (look in Examples>Experience Ubuntu.ogg). The rest work through various means (gstreamer, xine, vlc, mplayer, etc.)
[08:26] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, I install mplayer, install the codecs...every video plays like someone was pointing the camera directly into the sun for the whole duration
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> i looked
[08:27] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Preferences?
[08:27] <bll3r87> ok i have a question about KDE and GNOME again, does Windows fall into one of them two categories, or are they linux based only
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: this sounds like gamma issue with your video. What kind of graphics card do you have?
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> but all is black
[08:27] <KnowledgEngi> i did not see video in the videoplayer
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> it's an onboard Intel video chip
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, it's an onboard Intel video chip
[08:28] <Warbo> bll3r87: Windows uses explorer for everything. GNOME and KDE use a collection of different utilities, and they can be customised beyond recognition. The default look 'n' feel of MacOS, OSX, Windows and many other desktops can be created in KDE and GNOME
[08:28] <teimu> bll3r87, windows uses the explorer "desktop environment", which is also completely different from gnome and kde...way more different than the latter two are to each other
[08:28] <ghostxx> here's a stupid question, where do I make permanent changes to GRUB? (getting sick of always having to tell it where my boot drive is)
[08:28] <Warbo> ghostxx: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:28] <teimu> ghostghost, make sure to edit as a sudoer
[08:28] <dibblego> is there a web interface that I can search for packages with?
[08:29] <Warbo> ghostxx: Open it using "gksudo gedit" to get permission to save changes
[08:29] <dibblego> instead of using apt-cache search
[08:29] <ghostxx> thanks, I'll try that
[08:29] <teimu> dibblego, use synaptic
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: they are linux based only. In Linux, the graphical interfaces run off of a server (that's the X server). KDE and Gnome are just two kinds of desktop envrionments that are clients of X. There are others too (like fluxbox, enligthenment, xfce). In Linux, the graphical interface is not an integrated part of the system. You can run Linux without any graphical user interface. In Windows, however, the GUI is part of the core system,
[08:29] <dibblego> teimu, I am using Ubuntu server; I cannot
[08:29] <Warbo> dibblego: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, the videos run fine when run on a media player under Windows...so it looks more like an Ubuntu driver issue rather than a hardware problem..if it's that
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> ghostxx: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <bll3r87> ok i got ya
[08:29] <bll3r87> thanks
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: yes, that would be it.
[08:30] <dibblego> Warbo, thanks
[08:30] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Try dumping all of your Windows codecs in /usr/lib/codecs and trying MPlayer
[08:30] <teimu> oo. well, you can browse with http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: have a read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video (especially the Intel section)
[08:30] <bll3r87> is there anyway i can edit my exsiting partition to add more to the unix side of my system?
[08:31] <bll3r87> when i first installed linux i wasnt to into it, but now its all i use
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> bll3r87: you can try with gparted
[08:31] <bll3r87> ok ill give that a try tomorrow morning
[08:31] <teimu> bll3r87, not safely. you might screw up some of the data in the other partitions
[08:31] <bll3r87> gparted, i heard of that program before
[08:31] <teimu> bll3r87, its in apt
[08:31] <bll3r87> ok
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> !info gparted
[08:31] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, ok, what can I play with MPlayer without the codecs installed?
[08:32] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> what would happen if I deleted usr/share/app-install/desktop
[08:32] <ghostxx> Warbo and fyrestrtr, thanks, that did it! :)
[08:33] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Most stuff will play in MPlayer. Windows codecs just give it those few that are obscure (I needed to do it to play an MP4v2 file)
[08:33] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> or what purpous does it serve?
[08:33] <jn> logged out, back now, time is still incorrect
[08:33] <Warbo> AA! Installer crashed!
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: it defines where applications go on the menu system, where their icons are, and what file to launch when you click on them.
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: in other words, leave it alone :)
[08:34] <Geoffrey2> um, .wmv is obscure?
[08:34] <Warbo> wmv is encrypted
[08:34] <Warbo> (new ones are)
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> jn: restart the system
[08:35] <jn> fyrestrtr: i used date cmd to change it, we'll see if it sticks, if it doesn't i will try a restart.
[08:35] <teimu> fyrestrtr, look at my pm =)
[08:35] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> fyrestrtr: Ahh... dang now I cant delete it! Lol it has all my old programs showing that I dont have.
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> I didn't get any from you teimu
[08:36] <teimu> now?
[08:36] <linux_manju> jn: Its a known issue if Linux + NTP is installed along with windows XP dual boot..
[08:36] <jn> it is.
[08:36] <linux_manju> jn: Its more or less likely to cause time havoc
[08:36] <linux_manju> jn: Is it a dual boot?
[08:37] <sharyari> elo
[08:37] <jn> linux_manju: yes, it is.
[08:37] <coopster> has anyone here gotten cedega to work with ubuntu and play counter-strike?
[08:37] <Warbo> Does the LiveCD use my existing Swap for the live session?
[08:37] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, the Intel instructions appeart to be for the Breezy preview...will they work on Dapper?
[08:37] <Madpilot> Warbo, I doubt it, but it might
[08:38] <chris9> whats the name of the default wireless manager that kubuntu uses?
[08:38] <chris9> wifi-radar?
[08:38] <linux_manju> jn: better.. set your clock i.e CMOS clock to localtime and then run tzselect to choose the appropriate time zone and other infos
[08:38] <teimu> coopster, well for one thing, cedega definately works with ubuntu. as for CS, i dont know. cedega has an application library where you can find the working status of most apps
[08:38] <Warbo> Madpilot: Going through the error logs and I am getting /dev/sda2 "device or resource busy" (that is my swap)
[08:38] <Madpilot> Warbo, hmm, no idea, then. I don't bother with swap, so I'm not sure.
[08:38] <teimu> coopster, its on thier website
[08:39] <dibblego> can I find out where an installed packages files are without synaptic?
[08:39] <jn> jn@jn-laptop:~$ tzselect
[08:39] <jn> /usr/bin/tzselect: line 53: /usr/share/zoneinfo/iso3166.tab: No such file or directory
[08:39] <jn> /usr/bin/tzselect: time zone files are not set up correctly
[08:39] <chris9> anyone know?
[08:39] <jn> bios is set for local time
[08:39] <coopster> teimu, counterstrike is working in cedega, i've used it before on gentoo, but i can't get it goin on this computer, it just randomly hangs
[08:39] <linux_manju> jn: there you go... :)
[08:39] <dooglus> !info cpuburn
[08:39] <ubotu> cpuburn: a collection of programs to put heavy load on CPU. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.4-19 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 116 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386)
[08:39] <linux_manju> jn: fix tzselect..
[08:40] <jn> remove and reinstall?
[08:40] <teimu> dibblego, try apt-cache pkgnames
[08:40] <dibblego> teimu, that just lists installed packages doesn't it?
[08:40] <dibblego> I want to see instaled files for a package
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: yes
[08:40] <dibblego> synaptic can do it, but this is ubuntu server
[08:41] <teimu> i think so. i dont have root on this machine to test it, but from the man, it should work like said
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> dibblego: dpkg -L packagename
[08:41] <wweasel> Hey all. In my bootup at a certain point Splashy disappears and i see that it is checking my FAT32 partition, but from that point on everything happens in text rather than splashy. This started happening after I did an update a while ago, I forget what and I only found the time to ask now. Any ideas?
[08:41] <linux_manju> jn: Well.. :)
[08:41] <dibblego> fyrestrtr, cheers
[08:42] <linux_manju> wweasel: check your /etc/fstab for any fat32 filesystem boot entries
[08:42] <dooglus> dibblego: apt-file is good too - it can list the files even for packages which aren't installed
[08:42] <dibblego> dooglus,
[08:42] <dibblego> thanks
[08:42] <linux_manju> wweasel: If its there set the last cloumn to 0 0
[08:42] <KnowledgEngi> ufff i change linux disribution
[08:43] <KnowledgEngi> is impossible to see video on ubuntu
[08:43] <KnowledgEngi> ogg too
[08:43] <wweasel> !easyubuntu
[08:43] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:43] <wweasel> knowledgengi: easy ubuntu is alot easier to get that to work than changing distros
[08:44] <linux_manju> KnowledgEngi: I have mplayer and xmms.. installed and I never faced a single problem with any video files sofar
[08:44] <linux_manju> wweasel: try apt-get install gxine
[08:44] <linux_manju> wweasel: that is a good video player
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> has anyone had problems with flash videos since the most recent firefox update in the repos?
[08:45] <linux_manju> KnowledgEngi: try apt-get install gxine
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> (google video, youtube)
[08:45] <linux_manju> KnowledgEngi:  that is a good video player
[08:45] <jn> linux_manju: what do you suggest?
[08:45] <wweasel> linux_manju: I have no prob with video. mine was the fat32. at the moment the "pass" column is set to 1. you said change it to 0.  I will, but while I am at it I'd like to learn. Could you tell me what that does?
[08:46] <linux_manju> wweasel: Well it wont be checked for consitancy.. I.e filesystem checks...
[08:46] <jn> i like mplayer
[08:46] <linux_manju> wweasel: It is now recomended to scan a fat32 from linux
[08:46] <jn> vlc is decent
[08:46] <bioticpro> Any kxmame or gxmame users, I need help with video setup, xmame video screen is tiny, can't figure out how to make it full screen
[08:46] <linux_manju> jn: Remove and reinstall
[08:46] <jn> :)\
[08:46] <Shinzetsu> I managed to install my nvidia drivers, but now my resolution is locked to 640x480, anyone had the same issue?
[08:47] <wweasel> linux_manju: aha! so, ideally it should scan. Can it not scan behind Splashy somehow?
[08:47] <linux_manju> wweasel: Ideally It should not scan fat or ntfs file systems
[08:47] <bioticpro> Any kxmame or gxmame users, I need help with video setup, xmame video screen is tiny, can't figure out how to make it full screen
[08:47] <linux_manju> wweasel: 0 0 means it wont be scanned
[08:48] <wweasel> linux_maju: Alright, thanks very much :)
[08:48] <linux_manju> wweasel: You are getting a text console coz .. Init thinks its a warnign
[08:48] <linux_manju> wweasel: NP
[08:48] <teimu> Shinzetsu, do you know about your xorg.conf? you can enable different resolutions from there.
[08:49] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: run dpkg-reconfgiure xserver-xorg and select the appropriate resolutions
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> Package `server-xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: server-xorg is not installed
[08:50] <Shinzetsu> should i sudo apt-get install server-xorg?
[08:50] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: nope... just
[08:50] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> i did that
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> i get that error ^
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> oh wait
[08:51] <Greensky> has anyone ever had dapper fail to install when you used ext3 partitions?
[08:51] <Shinzetsu> yeah
[08:51] <teimu> Greensky, whats the error?
[08:51] <Greensky> it just hangs on me
[08:51] <IRCMonkeyX>  i have windows and ubuntu in one hdd, i am gonna change my partitions  under windows, how can i protect myself for taking grub error 17?
[08:51] <Greensky> it's the graphical install :\
[08:52] <teimu> Greensky, at what point?
[08:52] <Greensky> using reiser (sp) it goes through ok
[08:52] <Greensky> at about 94% done
[08:53] <Shinzetsu> linux_manju: any options next?
[08:53] <Greensky> I forget the exact %
[08:53] <Shinzetsu> left
[08:53] <Shinzetsu> *
[08:53] <teimu> Greensky, sorry to try to answer you're question with another question, but im unsure about the graphical installer i hear about. Is it graphical as in you have a mouse, or only text-based?
[08:53] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: Well manualy edit xorg.conf
[08:53] <Greensky> np, graphical as in x-windows... it's in gnome
[08:53] <Greensky> and you click the install icon
[08:54] <Warbo> How do I attach files to a bug report?
[08:54] <teimu> Greensky, hmm. ok. have you tried the text-based installer?
[08:54] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: try installing apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[08:54] <Shinzetsu> linux_manju: where is it stored?
[08:54] <Shinzetsu> okay
[08:54] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, i have windows and ubuntu in one hdd, i am gonna change my partitions  under windows, how can i protect myself for taking grub error 17?
[08:54] <Greensky> nope, I didn't see that as an option on the menu... any reason I shouldn't just use reiserfs?
[08:55] <Greensky> I really only use ext3 since I've used ext2-3 since I started using linux and never had issues so I saw no reason to change that
[08:55] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:55] <Greensky> the only other thing I've noticed is that I had to run noapci to get my machine to boot, but that's not a bit deal on a desktop
[08:55] <Greensky> and I figure it's probably unrelated since I can install with reiserfs
[08:56] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, i would recommend editting them in linux with gparted. that way, it will keep the boot record for linux intact. any adjustments to already existing partitions is somewhat dangerous however
[08:56] <Shinzetsu> linux_manju: alright, i think i found some resolutions, what do i need to change?
[08:56] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: default resolution
[08:56] <Shinzetsu> linux_manju: all the resolutions are there though
[08:57] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: what does DefaultDepth   say?
[08:57] <linux_manju> 24?
[08:57] <Shinzetsu> 24
[08:57] <Shinzetsu> yes
[08:58] <Warbo> Ubuiquity seems to be getting loads of bug reports, so I'll just give up on the graphical installer
[08:58] <Warbo> I can't be bothered to download a whole new CD, so I'll debootstrap it
[08:58] <linux_manju> what are all the modes for 24 bit subsections
[08:58] <IRCMonkeyX> teimu: i have c d e drives. c and d for windows, e is for ubuntu, may i divide into 2 partitions d drive , as you say with gparted from ubuntu ?
[08:58] <Shinzetsu> 	SubSection "Display"
[08:58] <Shinzetsu> 		Depth		24
[08:58] <Shinzetsu> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[08:58] <Shinzetsu> 	EndSubSection
[08:58] <linux_manju> "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" ??
[08:58] <Shinzetsu> yeah
[08:58] <Shinzetsu> i can only choose 640x480
[08:59] <Geoffrey2> fyrestrtr, I checked wiki, but the only advice is on how to change screen resolutions
[08:59] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: Referring to partitions like that is dangerous. When I used Widnows it constantly switched around D: E: and F:
[08:59] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: what happens if you try ctrl+alt+ +
[08:59] <Shinzetsu> Warbo: I run Wimpdows in a VM :)
[08:59] <Shinzetsu> whoa even bigger
[08:59] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, wait...is ubuntu already on you're so-called "E" drive? windows shouldnt be able to read linux partitions, which is why im wondering you're calling it E
[09:00] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: i.e ctrl,alt and + key simultaneously
[09:00] <Shinzetsu> hang on
[09:00] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: i dont know what to do, if i do it from windows, i will get grub error 17 :(
[09:00] <Shinzetsu> well i get even a more smaller
[09:00] <Shinzetsu> like 300x something
[09:00] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: keep pressing it repeatedly..
[09:01] <Shinzetsu> hey i think i got it hang on
[09:01] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[09:01] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, haha....i dont think anyone here that hasn't had the error knows exactly what grub error 17 is. what is it?
[09:01] <IRCMonkeyX> teimu: it was drive e, before installing ubuntu,now not,by the way there is a tool for reading ubuntu from windows
[09:01] <KnowledgEngi> edubuntu-server consent to put online document ?
[09:01] <KnowledgEngi> documentS
[09:01] <Shinzetsu> linux_manju: it works, thanks alot!
[09:01] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed ubuntu, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, no sorry. windows is incapable of that as far as i know. might be a better question for a windows chat thought
[09:02] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: NP
[09:02] <Shinzetsu> man I love those IRC help channels
[09:02] <jn> linux_manju: hey im having trouble finding the tz package.. i tried installing timezoneconf and that gave errors :\
[09:02] <Shinzetsu> I remember called Micro$oft and paying loads of cash on their phone line
[09:02] <Half-Left> Is there anything special I need to do when compiling the nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[09:02] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, ok, so back to the main issue. what are you trying to do with the "drive E"?
[09:03] <Shinzetsu> someone know a good msn client? ive tried Kopete, Gaim and aMSN so far
[09:03] <linux_manju> jn: try apt-get install timezone
[09:04] <KnowledgEngi> how can i remove all that is not ubuntu uffical and ubuntu supported ?
[09:04] <IRCMonkeyX> teimu: i have c d e drives. c and d for windows, e is for ubuntu, may i divide into 2 partitions d drive , as you say with gparted from ubuntu ?
[09:04] <teimu> Shinzetsu, i know trillian know msn protocol. BUT, i dont know if there's a linux port for it
[09:05] <jn> E: Package timezone has no installation candidate
[09:05] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: amsn is the way to go
[09:05] <jn> However the following packages replace it: libc6
[09:05] <jn> apt-get install libc6?
[09:06] <Warbo> If I debootstrap a system, will I have to do anything other than installing ubuntu-desktop, adding a user and sorting out fstab?
[09:06] <linux_manju> Shinzetsu: try apt-cache search msn you will get tonsd
[09:06] <linux_manju> jn: apt-get install timezones
[09:06] <Warbo> jn: I uninstalled libc6 earlier. That is why I am reinstallin
[09:06] <jn> ouch
[09:07] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, o ok. here's what I would do. use the windows partitioner to split the drives (partition magic, right?). then use gparted to convert to ext3/2, and then talk to someone who knows how to enable other partitions to be used under an existing linux install. i dont know how to do that part of it
[09:07] <jn> Package timezones is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:07] <jn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:07] <jn> is only available from another source
[09:07] <jn> However the following packages replace it: libc6
[09:07] <jn> E: Package timezones has no installation candidate
[09:07] <Warbo> Don't ask me why I did it (I was assuming I could just temporarily remove it, then dpkg -i a different version)
[09:08] <linux_manju> jn: try what it says... apt-get install libc6
[09:08] <IRCMonkeyX>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[09:08] <Shinzetsu> afk
[09:09] <IRCMonkeyX> teimu: ok thanx
[09:09] <teimu> IRCMonkeyX, np. good luck!
[09:10] <GStubbs43> Hey, is there a way I can set certain filetypes to open with a specific program, like .pls with VLC?
[09:10] <secleinteer> hey, when i do a fresh install, what is the root password/
[09:10] <secleinteer> ?
[09:11] <Greensky>  /quit
[09:11] <linux_manju> GStubbs43: cat /etc/mime.types
[09:11] <linux_manju> GStubbs43: Its tricky to setup thou
[09:11] <linux_manju> secleinteer: There wont be one.. do sudo su -
[09:12] <Warbo> !tell secleinteer about sudoroot
[09:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about sudoroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:12] <linux_manju> secleinteer: and then run passwd to set one
[09:12] <GStubbs43> hmm.... what am I supposed to do after cat /etc/mime.types
[09:12] <Warbo> !tell secleinteer about rootsudo
[09:12] <IRCMonkeyX> !root
[09:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:12] <linux_manju> GStubbs43: You can assoiate a program with the extentions
[09:12] <Farhad> how I can download a page on web with all links that are on that page
[09:12] <Warbo> Farhad: Use wget
[09:13] <GStubbs43> DownThemAll Extension Farhad
[09:13] <GStubbs43> for Firefox
[09:13] <Warbo> Farhad: Type "man wget" to see it's manual
[09:13] <teimu> these bot commands are kind of longwinded. why !tell someone *about* something? can you replace about with anything? otherwise its just more to type
[09:13] <GStubbs43> maybe not... ;)
[09:13] <ball> If I want to dual-boot ubuntu with another OS, should I install the other first?
[09:14] <secleinteer> linux_manju: tyvm
[09:14] <Warbo> teimu: !information > nickname
[09:14] <linux_manju> Farhad: wget -Hr http://somesite.com
[09:14] <linux_manju> secleinteer: NP
[09:14] <Warbo> ball: If it is Windows yes. If it is something different then you may have to set up two bootloaders
[09:15] <IRCMonkeyX> ball: if wanna use windows and ubuntu, u should install first windows, as i know
[09:15] <ball> Okay
[09:15] <Shinzetsu> back
[09:15] <oga> hey all i'm having some trouble with my make.... there is an error like this: build SUBDIRS=/home/oga/Desktop/ipw2200-1.0.4 MODVERDIR=/home/oga/Desktop/ipw2200-1.0.4 modules
[09:15] <oga> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[09:15] <oga> make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[09:15] <ball> Does Ubuntu live entirely within one BIOS-level partition?
[09:15] <Warbo> oga: Install the package "linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386"
[09:15] <teimu> Warbo, now im being picky. why not !information nickname, huh? don't you think they're unnecessary?
[09:15] <Farhad> Thnx , Warbo , GStubbs43 , linux_manju
[09:15] <ball> (swap, /usr etc too?
[09:15] <ball> )
[09:16] <linux_manju> oga: install kernel-sources and kernel-headers
[09:16] <Warbo> ball: Depends what you tell it. I use /boot, / swap and /home/chris/Files
[09:16] <teimu> !tell teimu root
[09:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell teimu root - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:16] <ball> Warbo: those are separate partitions?
[09:16] <teimu> !tell teimu ubuntu
[09:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell teimu ubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:17] <Warbo> ball: For me yes. sda1=/boot, sda2=swap sda3 is extended, sda5=/, sda6=/home/chris/Files
[09:17] <ball> Hmm, that could be tricky then.
[09:17] <Warbo> (I also have sda7 and sda8 as ext3, and 50GB free space. Those are for different OSs I may want in the future)
[09:17] <ball> I /think I just need / and swap
[09:17] <ball> perhaps /usr too.
[09:18] <teimu> !tell teimu x
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell teimu x - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:18] <Warbo>  / and swap are the only defaults
[09:18] <teimu> bah...
[09:18] <teimu> !tell teimu about x
[09:18] <Warbo> !fishing > teimu
[09:18] <teimu> !fishing teimu
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about fishing teimu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:18] <ball> Warbo: if half of the disk is unpartitioned space when I run the Ubuntu installer, will it give me the option of using that space?
[09:19] <ball> !X ball
[09:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about X ball - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:19] <Warbo> ball: Yes
[09:19] <ball> Warbo: I think that's what I needed to know, thanks.
[09:19] <arha> hello
[09:19] <Warbo> ball: It says either erase entire disc, use free space or manual
[09:19] <ball> hello Lobster
[09:19] <Warbo> Which, coincidentally, I have right in front of me now
[09:20] <ball> Warbo: if I were feeling more energetic, I'd build a PC on which to try it.
[09:20] <ball> I don't have the disk for the other OS though, so that would be (at least partially) a waste of time.
[09:20] <Lobster> hi ball abd the others :)
[09:20] <ball> brb, baby needs changing.
[09:20] <arha> excuse me, does someone know how i can tell ubuntu to use a screen resolution per default? even though i clicked "Make default ..." and then on log-out "Save session", it still goes back from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 each time i reboot..
[09:21] <ball> Does ubuntu have xf86config?
[09:21] <arha> it has xorgconfig
[09:21] <Warbo> It uses "dpkg-reconfigure" on the xserver-xorg package
[09:21] <ball> arha: Ah, I've never seen that.  I know that xf86config let me choose a mode for each screen depth.
[09:21] <arha> ah, ok that might have been it
[09:22] <arha> i just added the new 1280x1024 resolution via xorgcfg
[09:22] <ball> Why does 1,280 x 960 seem more religiously correct?
[09:23] <arha> what do you mean, religiously correct?
[09:24] <crimsun> because the aspect ratio is correct, ball.
[09:24] <Warbo> Listen just died :(
[09:24] <crimsun> note that 1280x1024 does not adhere to the same aspect ratio that 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1600x1200, ... do
[09:24] <arha> yes but you have more space on the screen than with 1280x960 :)
[09:25] <Warbo> I still remember 320x256,640x512,1280x512, etc
[09:25] <ball> crimsun: that'll be it.
[09:25] <ball> 320x240, 640x400 on my hardware
[09:25] <Warbo> (fits in a PAL TV better, and on a multisync monitor)
[09:25] <arha> ok, now dpkg-reconfigure asks me whether to "Emulate 3 button mouse?" - so do i have to say "No" if i have a mouse with two buttons plus scroll-wheel as third?
[09:25] <ball> 320x200 I mean
[09:25] <ball> 1,152 x 864
[09:26] <Warbo> arha: That just means that clicking left+right will = pressing wheel down
[09:26] <arha> hum - is that useful in any way?
[09:26] <ball> arha: you don't "have" to say no, but you /can/ say no because you already have a third button.
[09:26] <Warbo> arha: Technically the wheel is 3rd, 4th and 5th. Third is pressing it down, 4th and 5th are scroll up and scroll down respectively
[09:26] <ball> My mouse has four buttons and no scroll wheel
[09:27] <ball> I think I hate my mouse.
[09:27] <arha> ball: how does that look like?
[09:27] <ball> arha: s/mouse/trackball/ ;-)
[09:27] <arha> ahso
[09:27] <Warbo> I have a mouse with buttons on the side. It is annoying since the mouse is dome-shaped and needs to be help firmly to lift it, but this presses the side buttons
[09:27] <Warbo> *held
[09:28] <ball> Warbo: sounds evil
[09:28] <balsat> wenn there is something wrong with the root can you do something about it
[09:28] <Warbo> I don't use it anymore
[09:28] <arha> so, emulating third button with left+right does not have any bad side-effects? or are there any programs which require simultaneous clicking of left and right mouse button ?
[09:28] <Warbo> balsat: A little more specific please?
[09:28] <ball> The two wee buttons on my trackball are supposed to be scroll buttons, but I'd rather use them as, well, buttons.
[09:28] <Warbo> arha: Not that I know of (both questions)
[09:29] <ball> If the mouse driver were really smart, I'd be able to hold one we button down and move the ball to scroll in two dimensions.
[09:29] <oga> Warbo and linux_manju thanks for getting the right headers for me it seems to be "making" now but there is some more errors
[09:29] <ball> ...but I don't think we're quite there yet.
[09:29] <balsat> i uses su instead of sudo now i cant mount ny disks in ubuntu am i newbie in this
[09:30] <Warbo> balsat: 1) Don't use su, 2) What happens when you try to mount
[09:30] <oga> it's starting with warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
[09:30] <oga>  followed by some error: invalid application of sizeof to incomplete type struct ieee80211_assoc_response_frame plus some more
[09:30] <Warbo> (I thought you meant your root partition originally :) )
[09:30] <balsat> nothing
[09:30] <Warbo> oga: Sound like a badly written driver/program :(
[09:30] <flax> can somebody tell me how i get the junkmail filters working in evolution?
[09:31] <flax> (in dapper)
[09:31] <balsat> dont get the rights for the disks
[09:31] <oga> Warbo k
[09:31] <Warbo> balsat: If you get "username@system~#mount device mountpoint
[09:31] <Warbo> username@system~#" then it has worked
[09:32] <Half-Left> Anyone got the nvidia driver to load with a custom kernel?
[09:32] <Warbo> balsat: What is the error message? "Nothing" and "doesn't give me rights" don't seem to fit. I asked what happened
[09:32] <balsat> i dont see that at all
[09:32] <abhinay> wot is the best download manager ?
[09:32] <Warbo> !best
[09:32] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: "custom" kernel?
[09:32] <arha> in the xorg-config, should i add the GLcore module to "loaded by default"?
[09:32] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, yer, <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:32] <Warbo> balsat: Then what do you see? You said you saw nothing, and that is nothing
[09:33] <ball> turn the brightness up ;-)
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: same story as any other kernel, download the source and headers, then rebuild the nvidia kernel module for that kernel.
[09:33] <balsat> it says something its a non changeball disk like that
[09:33] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, yep, did that but xorg is not loading, says cannot find module "nvidia"
[09:34] <Warbo> balsat: 1) That is not "nothing" so please tell me exactly what I ask for in future, 2) Please pastebin it
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: are you using the binary drivers from nvidia.com or the ones in repo?
[09:34] <Warbo> !pastebin > balsat
[09:34] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, the file from nvidia.com
[09:35] <ball> Does ubuntu include any support for hardware accelleration of MPEG playback?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: it works here, when you run it, it will uninstall and then re-install the module. You need to then modprobe it again (or restart the machine) for it to be loaded.
[09:35] <Warbo> ball: I think that depends on the hardware
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: make sure you have the kernel headers and the source, and that /usr/src/linux points to the right location.
[09:35] <ball> Warbo: so /some/ hardware is supported?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> ball: depends on your video card
[09:36] <ball> Warbo: I come from an OS with no accelleration ;-)
[09:36] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, I did modprob it, and I have it loaded during boot, the nvidia driver compiled with the right kernel
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: and you are running the same kernel right now?
[09:36] <Half-Left> yes
[09:36] <Half-Left> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <arha> do i need the Xorg-GLcore module for 3D-acceleration (i have got an nvidia geforce 2-something), or will it be loaded if it's used, or what is it for?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> then something else is wrong with the module or the way you built it.
[09:36] <ball> fyrestrtr: Which should I buy for use with ubuntu?
[09:36] <Warbo> I know all nvidia video acceleration is lost when running XGL
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> ball: nvidia
[09:37] <ball> thanks
[09:37] <ball> brb
[09:37] <tchiboo> Hi there
[09:37] <Warbo> I prefer ATI's older cards
[09:37] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, what could be, i've done this a thousand times on other distros
[09:37] <tchiboo> how are U ?
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: that's a side effect of XGL *any* "direct rendering" is lost because you are using opengl rendering.
[09:37] <tchiboo> I have a apache PHP problem
[09:37] <tchiboo> someone could help me ?
[09:37] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: Apparently not in fglrx or similar. It is a problem specific to nvidia
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: I don't know, but I know it worked here without a glitch.
[09:37] <caturOK> what the problem
[09:38] <caturOK> may be i can help u
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: errm, no its not. Its how XGL works.
[09:38] <caturOK> :P
[09:38] <tchiboo> caturOK ok thanks
[09:38] <caturOK> :)
[09:38] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, I tried removing the restricted modules but no luck
[09:38] <tchiboo> caturkOK I had an apache 2 and PHP5 working, but
[09:38] <tchiboo> I would downgrade to php4
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: wait, you have the restricted modules installed too? Why?
[09:38] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, I have them uninstalled now
[09:38] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: XGL gives acceleration to video playback. Look at some kind of table of compatibility. You will see that under Nvidia there is "lack of video acceleration"
[09:39] <tchiboo> caturOK and remove the package PHP5 and install package PHP4
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: were you running the non nvidia.com drivers before?
[09:39] <Warbo> (as an error/problem)
[09:39] <caturOK> apache can read php4 and 5
[09:39] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, yes
[09:39] <tchiboo> caturOK and now no PHP on port 80
[09:39] <section31> after i update my .bashrc file..how do i reload it without having to relogin.
[09:39] <bbrazil> section31: . .bashrc
[09:39] <tchiboo> caturOK for exemple www.philservices.ch/catalog
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: you need to completely remove them first, then reboot the system, THEN install the new ones.
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: read the wiki, it explains all this.
[09:39] <Elko> How to insert a certain package into apt's cache?  'apt-cache add package.deb' says "E: Unimplemented", though it *is* in the man-page
[09:39] <tchiboo> caturOK but on port 81 it is ok
[09:40] <section31> bbrazil,what does the . do
[09:40] <bbrazil> section31: sources the file
[09:40] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, I have removed the nvidia-glx package before booting the new kernel
[09:40] <caturOK> u want u apache port on 80 or 81
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: read the wiki please.
[09:40] <caturOK> sorry if my english poor
[09:40] <caturOK> lol
[09:40] <Warbo> Elko: You would probably be better off adding it some other way. Installing a package from outside a repository adds that package to apt's lists
[09:40] <section31> thanks
[09:40] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, sorry, which one?
[09:40] <bbrazil> Elko: manpage says it's for dubugging. probably need a compile option
[09:40] <tchiboo> caturOK apache on port 80
[09:40] <bbrazil> Elko: *debugging
[09:40] <caturOK> u can edit
[09:40] <caturOK> on your port.conf in apache directory
[09:41] <caturOK> change listen 81
[09:41] <caturOK> to listen 80
[09:41] <Elko> Warbo: what other way? as I understand, the cache is a binary file, so I can't edit it manually
[09:41] <tchiboo> caturOK thanks, but it is ok the port (I just have no PHP)
[09:41] <Elko> bbrazil: well, ok.. but there must be a way to inject a package into the cache.. even gentoo can do that
[09:41] <caturOK> how about addtype
[09:42] <tchiboo> caturOK when I open a PHP page it will download the file
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[09:42] <bbrazil> Elko: why do you want to do that?
[09:42] <arha> ok, thank you all.. i'll try it out
[09:42] <tchiboo> caturOK  addtype in apache2.conf ?
[09:42] <caturOK> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php5 .php4 .php3
[09:42] <caturOK> # <---- u remove first
[09:43] <Elko> bbrazil: because apt-get install x11-common crashes each time inside colinux and I already have the needed directories from x11-common
[09:43] <caturOK> find addtype
[09:43] <tchiboo> caturOK I tried to remove it and restart apache2 no changes
[09:43] <Warbo> Elko: Why do you want it in the cache anyway? (sorry, my system is going slow)
[09:43] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, thanks, I read that, seems I have not removed the nvidia-common package
[09:43] <JaCe> c
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> Half-Left: :) told ya
[09:43] <caturOK> u use linux or microsoft
[09:43] <Half-Left> :-)
[09:43] <tchiboo> linux
[09:43] <tchiboo> ubuntu
[09:43] <caturOK> can u try kill
[09:43] <caturOK> php first
[09:44] <tchiboo> how to do this ?
[09:44] <caturOK> ps -aux | grep php
[09:44] <bbrazil> Elko: do you know what apt-cache does?
[09:44] <caturOK> if that u php run
[09:44] <Elko> bbrazil: heh, not what I want it seems
[09:44] <caturOK> catur    17665  0.0  0.1   3032   720 pts/2    S+   14:45   0:00 grep php <--- example
[09:44] <Half-Left> brb
[09:44] <bbrazil> Elko: it's merely for looking at lists of packages in repositories
[09:44] <caturOK> wehehehee
[09:44] <sam_> what is the most popular linux distro in the world? i want proof
[09:45] <bbrazil> sam_: distrowatch.net
[09:45] <Warbo> apt-cache looks through the lists which apt-get update downloads, and also adds any custom dpkg -i installed packages (or obsolete ones for which the repos have been removed)
[09:45] <mdirc> how do I enable ubuntu's vino (vnc) server to allow remote connections?
[09:45] <caturOK> tchiboo : may be u can see this http://www.howtoforge.net/taxonomy_menu/1/3
[09:45] <Warbo> !offtopic > sam_
[09:45] <Elko> fine... so apt is about the only packagemanager that can't be faked into thinking some package is already installed... crazy..
[09:45] <sam_> someone told me distrowatch is bull
[09:46] <caturOK> tchiboo : Running Apache2 With PHP5 And PHP4 At The Same Time
[09:46] <caturOK> that's good tool
[09:46] <Warbo> Elko: I once installed a custom build of E-UAE as xlibs version 10 :)
[09:46] <bbrazil> Elko: manually alter the status file
[09:46] <Elko> bbrazil: please tell me where I can find that
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Elko: normally, you don't need to mess with injecting packages into apt.
[09:47] <Warbo> sam_: There are no definite figures since FLOSS doesn't force anybody to register
[09:47] <bbrazil> Elko: if you don't know, you shouldn't be doing it
[09:47] <Shinzetsu> how can i download the 'make' command?
[09:47] <Elko> I know, but this isn't a normal situation
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:47] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: install "build-essential"
[09:47] <bbrazil> Elko: you'll break your system horribly
[09:47] <sam_> I flossed this morning
[09:47] <Shinzetsu> thanks
[09:47] <tchiboo> caturOK but now I have no php running
[09:47] <Elko> bbrazil: what, give up on a wonderful way to learn?
[09:47] <Elko> bbrazil: I want to, I want to
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Elko: basically, yeap.
[09:47] <tchiboo> caturOK I tried the ps command but there is an error
[09:48] <Warbo> !floss > sam_
[09:48] <caturOK> u have php5 from source or from ubuntu
[09:48] <tchiboo> from ubuntu
[09:50] <tchiboo> capturOK if I reinstall the apache packet my config files will be deleted ?
[09:50] <badgurl> its nice to be back again
[09:50] <Elko> ah, found the status file... now to figure out what to put in there :P
[09:50] <zith> i am getting an apt-get error: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed.  what does 'to be installed' mean?
[09:51] <caturOK> hm
[09:51] <caturOK> edit mysql.so
[09:51] <caturOK> php.ini
[09:51] <Minty> can some please tell me how to set permission to this folder /opt/azureus/pluggins as Azureus can write its own pluggins as permission denied
[09:51] <MoNkUnClE> hey does anyone know how to get gaim-otr working in gaim2 beta 3?
[09:52] <Shinzetsu> Im trying to install something, and I need to compile a version for my kernel, it asks me: "
[09:52] <Shinzetsu> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[09:52] <Shinzetsu> kernel?
[09:52] <Shinzetsu> default locations usr/src/linux/include, but it doesnt exist
[09:52] <tchiboo> where are those files ?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: what are you trying to install?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: what are you trying to do?
[09:55] <MoNkUnClE> does anyone know how to get gaim-otr working in gaim2 beta 3?
[09:55] <Shinzetsu> fyrestrtr: VMware Workstation
[09:55] <tchiboo> fryestrt I am trying to have php workin again
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: you need to install the linux-headers package for your kernel version. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:56] <Shinzetsu> fyrestrtr: cheers mate
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: what happened that it stopped working?
[09:56] <rr> lol ... www.ie7.com
[09:57] <tchiboo> I had php5 working, and wanted to down grade to php4 so I remove packages PHP5 and install pacakages PHP4
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: how did you remove it?
[09:57] <tchiboo> using de synaptic tool
[09:58] <synic> tchiboo: a2dismod php5
[09:58] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: but I would like to have php4 working
[09:58] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr:
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: type sudo apt-get remove --purge php5
[09:59] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: ok done
[09:59] <bintut> where can i find the list of xkblayout and xkbmodel?
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: then, sudo apt-get install php4 php4-mysql
[10:00] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: ok done
[10:00] <Bonkadooda> http://linux.about.com/library/bl/bluser_survey01_sum.htm
[10:01] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: 2 packages uptodate, non updated
[10:01] <MoNkUnClE> do i have voice,can u guy see me asking question?
[10:01] <ikor> bintut: /usr/lib/X11/xkb/ ?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> MoNkUnClE: IRC doesn't have voice, only text.
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: now, restart apache
[10:02] <cilkay> Hi. What's the hotkey combination for switching X resolutions?
[10:03] <ball> Ctrl, Alt and + or -?
[10:03] <bintut> ikor: it's not there
[10:03] <ball> (on the numeric pad?)
[10:03] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: done, it doesn't work look at www.philservices.ch/catalog
[10:03] <bintut> ikor: i already found it before when i upgraded to xorg-7.0
[10:03] <MoNkUnClE> how do i apply a .diff file?
[10:03] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: the file is index.php and propose me to download it
[10:04] <ikor> MoNkUnClE: using patch
[10:04] <ball> cilkay: did that work?
[10:04] <MoNkUnClE> ikor yeah i guess or diff i dunno
[10:05] <cilkay> Ctrl, Alt, ? doesn't do anything. Ctrl, Alt, + changes resolution but it's not what I expected. The screen pans.
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: sudo a2enmod mod_php
[10:05] <Kimppa> Hello. Can someone recommend me a software for creating flash animations?
[10:05] <tchiboo> this module doesn't exist
[10:06] <ball> cilkay: What about Ctrl, Alt, - ?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: try sudo a2enmod php
[10:06] <mjr> Kimppa, not really (and flash is a proprietary format anyway and wouldn't rather recommend its use)
[10:06] <cilkay> ball: Wouldn't that restart X?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> or sudo a2enmod php4
[10:06] <commctrl> Kimppa, linux doesn't yet have one, but there are a couple good efforts underway
[10:06] <ball> cilkay: Perhaps, although I thought that was Ctrl, Alt Backspace
[10:06] <MoNkUnClE> ok,maybe i am not askinga clear enough question,i get that i use patch but i am trying to install a diff for gaim 2 otr plugin because my off the record plugin doesn't work in gaim 2 beta 3 any help would be much appreciated,thx
[10:06] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: this module doent exist
[10:06] <Kimppa> bugger.... well now I need to figure out what to tell my client :)
[10:07] <ball> hello geser
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: if those don't work, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: then, sudo a2enmod php4
[10:07] <cilkay> ball: you're right, it is backspace. Minus just seems to cycle down but it still pans. I'm sure I've seen a KDE applet for switching desktop resolutions before.
[10:07] <commctrl> Kimppa, tell them that Adobe's insistence on keeping SWF proprietary has led to the creation of SVG, and soon (hopefully) svg will gain popularity
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> MoNkUnClE: this would be something to ask in the gaim channel.
[10:08] <MoNkUnClE> ok thx fyrestrtr
[10:08] <ball> cilkay: I have no idea about KDE, sorry.
[10:09] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: done
[10:09] <tchiboo> a2enmod module installed
[10:10] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: but it it still won't work
[10:11] <commctrl> tchiboo, try #apache, they've probably run into this before
[10:11] <ruxpin> where's the gnome trash located?
[10:11] <ruxpin> kde's trashbin is ~/.Trash
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> News from #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:11] <ruxpin> can I symlink them to point to the same location?
[10:11] <commctrl> ruxpin, in .Trash-* in the root directory of each mountpoint
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> brotakul he's out
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> Bonkadooda he finally came out?
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> Bonkadooda respect bill.....
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> brotakul so i heared
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> Bonkadooda dont drop the soap fellas
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> Bonkadooda ok
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> * nybble has quit (Client Quit)
[10:11] <Bonkadooda> Bonkadooda it will make it easier for other gay men to come out
[10:11] <commctrl> ruxpin, it's probably an OpenDesktop standard
[10:11] <bintut> ikor: i already found it..  /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst
[10:11] <bintut> gtg
[10:12] <bintut> thanks..
[10:12] <commctrl> Bonkadooda, do not do that again
[10:12] <Nicholas> Ubuntu PC's not getting IP's from Win2k3 DHCP server ??
[10:14] <jahshua> hey peeps can anyone help me out with the link for upgrading from Breezy to Dapper please?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> tchiboo: restart apache
[10:14] <jahshua> !ubotu help
[10:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:14] <tchiboo> fyrestrtr: I did it
[10:14] <jahshua> ;(
[10:15] <jahshua> anyone know the command?
[10:15] <MatthewV> jahshua, just install all updates
[10:15] <Sweet-Maus> hi
[10:15] <thanatos> output from mount: "mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /shared busy" help
[10:15] <airz3r0> sudo apt-get distupgrade in term
[10:15] <MatthewV> jahshua, then update-manager will tell you that there is a new release available, and ask you if you wan't to upgrade
[10:15] <jahshua> heh MatthewV, thanks but there is a link on the wiki that ubotu has, i would like to read it so i dont make any mistakes.
[10:15] <ChrisNiemy> hi
[10:15] <Sweet-Maus> are you all english?
[10:15] <ball> I am.
[10:15] <airz3r0> im from africia
[10:16] <Nilsy> Danish
[10:16] <MatthewV> !upgrade
[10:16] <Sweet-Maus> i m german
[10:16] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:16] <MatthewV> jahshua, ^^
[10:16] <ball> I'm also off to bed.
[10:16] <jahshua> thanks!  :)
[10:16] <ball> Goodnight all
[10:16] <MatthewV> Sweet-Maus, this is an english speaking channel.....
[10:16] <Sweet-Maus> sry im new but where is a german channel??
[10:16] <Seveas> !de
[10:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:16] <ChrisNiemy> Sweet-Maus: ubuntu-de
[10:17] <ChrisNiemy> or ubuntu-de-treffpunkt
[10:19] <damian_> I have a question
[10:19] <damian_> how do I find out what OS I have
[10:19] <damian_> where do I go
[10:20] <MatthewV> damian_, System --> About Ubuntu should help :)
[10:21] <phlexy-says-hi> got5 + server pmfw no gods
[10:23] <dckirba> hello everyone
[10:23] <ChrisNiemy> mhm is there a command line option for what damian_ was asking?
[10:24] <Flannel> ChrisNiemy: uname -r will give you a kernel version
[10:24] <commctrl> ChrisNiemy, man uname to get more ways to see what your compy is
[10:24] <Madpilot> type 'lsb_release -a' in the terminal
[10:25] <ChrisNiemy> i can not remember anymore, but i guess there was something which one could grep from /proc or so
[10:25] <SuperDav3005> hi
[10:25] <ChrisNiemy> Madpilot: thanks, that was the command
[10:26] <Madpilot> np
[10:26] <ChrisNiemy> also thanks to Flannel and comctrl :)
[10:27] <ChrisNiemy> damian_ got it?
[10:28] <GStubbs43> Hey, anyone know if it is possible to make the xmms window bigger, I can't resize it. :(
[10:28] <solsTiCe> hi. i have a luks encrypted partition.  when i login i got a pmount-hal window that ask for my passwd. but then after that it freezes ! how to remove that window or make it work ?
[10:28] <solsTiCe> GStubbs43: you could double its size. check in the right-click menu
[10:29] <GStubbs43> solsTiCe: that makes it look really 'pixelated' is that the only way?
[10:29] <ChrisNiemy> GStubbs43 in the options menu somewhere you can adjust this also
[10:30] <solsTiCe> GStubbs43: i don't know i don't use xmms
[10:30] <SuperDav3005> what could i use to burn cds in ubuntu
[10:30] <Madpilot> SuperDav3005, data or music?
[10:30] <mirek> hi everyone. How about using multimonitor in Ubuntu with nVidia?
[10:30] <SuperDav3005> music
[10:30] <ChrisNiemy> Gstubbs43 perhaps you can select bigger font types. but i'm afraid it is the only option. but i dont know exactly. personally i prefer BMP
[10:30] <Paladine> mirek man nvidia-xconfig pay particular attention to twinview
[10:30] <Madpilot> SuperDav3005, Serpentine works nicely - just put a blank CD in your burner, you should get a popup
[10:31] <Paladine> you need to enable xinerama too
[10:31] <SuperDav3005> have you tried gnomebaker yet
[10:31] <SuperDav3005> i have both wasn't sure witch one would be better
[10:32] <ChrisNiemy> SuperDav3005 if you were used to some burning programm like NERO or so, try K3B (also works fine under Gnome). but for just burning audio cds try gnomebaker or as mentioned serpentine
[10:32] <Madpilot> SuperDav3005, gnomebaker works; I prefer serpentine for audio CDs, myself
[10:32] <mirek> paladin: Is simple to set it up? Does standard installation of ubuntu contains it?
[10:32] <SuperDav3005> thks
[10:33] <ChrisNiemy> SuperDav3005 in k3b there is a cool option, where you can burn a hidden track before the first track :D so that you have to push pause before the first track and then rewind :)
[10:33] <Flannel> mirek: https://help.ubuntu.com/communty/XineramaHowTo
[10:34] <mirek> Flannel: 404 :)
[10:34] <Flannel> mirek: er, no it's not.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:34] <GnarusLeo> nice, since when did ubuntu support SD laptop readers
[10:35] <SuperDav3005> i can do stunts
[10:35] <ccooke> GnarusLeo: a long time, actually
[10:36] <ccooke> GnarusLeo: they're usually just USB card readers, which have been well supported in linux for ages
[10:36] <GnarusLeo> ccooke, oh, really
[10:36] <GnarusLeo> like internal standard usb?
[10:36] <GnarusLeo> 2.0 that is
[10:36] <ccooke> GnarusLeo: yes.
[10:37] <ccooke> GnarusLeo: USB has actually been a godsend for standardisation of laptop parts
[10:37] <ccooke> GnarusLeo: loads of stuff works on usb these days
[10:37] <GnarusLeo> I think thats great
[10:38] <mirek> well, in won't be so hard to set up. Is there big difference in behavior then in Windows 2k/XP?
[10:41] <picosam> hello everyone; I have a question please; I've been trying to get a better driver for my ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (RV360) card for my Dapper installation for a couple of days now with no success
[10:42] <picosam> the default driver installed with Xorg works, but looks like the refresh rate is screwed or something; I don't even know how that can be since I'm on my PowerBook G4 (TFT screen) which supposedly should have a fixed refresh rate
[10:44] <picosam> so is there a way to get a better driver for my card?
[10:45] <cerdg> picosam:  have you checked the ATI website?
[10:45] <noiesmo> Hello all
[10:45] <apocalictico7> hello
[10:45] <DarkPixel> Yo
[10:46] <billy> i installed ubuntu but it says "piecing load letter"
[10:46] <picosam> cerdg: actually I haven't
[10:46] <billy> ?
[10:46] <billy> ?
[10:46] <jonykal> hi
[10:46] <jonykal> i have a problem conecting to my wireless network
[10:46] <picosam> if they have a driver for powerpc, would it be easy to just install it over the current one?
[10:46] <cerdg> picosam:  I'm looking out there now.  Supposedly there is a driver that supports that card, but I haven't found the actual download page for it yet
[10:46] <billy> hi jonykal
[10:46] <DarkPixel> !wifi
[10:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:46] <apocalictico> what is driver is better for ati cards?
[10:46] <picosam> how do I know which driver version do I actually have installed at the moment?
[10:47] <billy> what kind
[10:47] <apocalictico> msi ati 9250
[10:47] <picosam> u know I don't even care about 3D acceleration, etc. I just wish this crazy flickering would go (only visible when, for example, I set this IRC window I'm chatting in as transparent)
[10:48] <billy> do you ubuntu?>
[10:48] <jonykal> it seems ubuntu detected my wireles card its a bcm 4318 but when i try to conect with the networking utility it tells me that the device is active but when i type ifconfig the device is not active
[10:49] <jonykal> what is happening
[10:49] <billy> did you try to plug it in?>
[10:49] <jonykal> ?
[10:49] <billy> lol
[10:49] <jonykal> it's plugged in and turned on :)
[10:50] <billy> ask madpilot he is a genius
[10:50] <syock> is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com repository?
[10:50] <Madpilot> not about wireless, I ain't. I just run lots and lots of Cat5, like everyone is supposed to :)
[10:50] <polpak> jonykal: so what's the problem if you use the network config utility?
[10:50] <mirek> Does desktop edition of ubuntu contains server features?  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:55] <billy> billy i s happy
[10:56] <abhinay> dsas: Yes, "Virtual Machine" if i use it, is it necessary to install windows xp again in Ubuntu ?
[10:56] <syock> getting list of updates from security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com yields different results. I assume they`re different then?
[10:56] <dsas> abhinay: Yes, you'll have to reinstall it to the virtual machine.
[10:56] <syock> If so, are there any local mirrors for security.ubuntu.com?
[10:56] <dsas> syock: there is I think, though it's preferred you use security.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <abhinay> dsas: but, i already hv installed in C partition ...:(
[10:57] <jonykal> ok done
[10:57] <Ace2007> hi i got this error when running aclocal : http://pastebin.com/761676    Can someone please help me to sort it
[10:57] <jonykal> polpak: can you see it?
[10:58] <dsas> syock: try adding a dapper-security repo to your other lines, it *may* work, though perhaps you won't get security fixes as fast as you should
[10:58] <cocos> dsas: nevermind i already figured it out.. thanks for trying anyway
[10:58] <billy> try www.win98.xp.com/madbuttpirate/pilot.swf
[10:58] <polpak> jonykal: paste the url to your pastebin here
[10:58] <jonykal> polpak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19463
[10:59] <polpak> jonykal: is your wireless wep encrypted?
[10:59] <syock> dsas: tried that, but it doesn`t list the updates available at security. How long does it take for a mirror to update itself?
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> is anyone here using freeloader?
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> on my system it hogs the cpu, just wondering if that's the case with anyone els.e
[10:59] <billy> my roommate is a freeloader
[11:00] <billy> does that count
[11:00] <dsas> syock: "it depends" I think. I wouldn't think too long in general, but some may lag behind.
[11:00] <CrippsFX> I have my xorg.conf posted at: http://pastebin.ca/111296  ... I have it set up to do Xinerama so that "AboveMonitor" is located abovr my default monitor (oddly enough), but when I start up X, all I get is a cloned screen ... can somebody take a look and help me out with this?
[11:00] <jonykal> polpak: yes the authentication is wep-open and i do have an encryption key
[11:01] <timalot> anyone know how to the environment variable to change the gtk theme for an application?
[11:01] <timalot> wha
[11:01] <timalot> t
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> CrippsFX: what video card?
[11:01] <syock> dsas: thanks. I`ll try again when new updates come up again.
[11:01] <CrippsFX> fyrestrtr, Radeon XPress 200M
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> CrippsFX: use the ati.com binary drivers.
[11:01] <jonykal> polpak: also the channel should be 6 but i dont see where to configure such things
[11:01] <CrippsFX> .. and I am using the binary drivers (installed via the wiki instructions)
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> they have this built-into the control panel.
[11:01] <billy> just wanted to know what does k-line mean?>
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> a server disconnect
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> a (forced) server disconnect
[11:02] <billy> thks
[11:02] <chemaja> to users of XChat-GNOME 0.12: is anyone else experiencing slow redraw when switching back to this application, relative to redraw time of other programs?
[11:02] <billy> what about g-lined
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> ra rurroh
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> ^^ Scooby Doo
[11:03] <CrippsFX> fyrestrtr, when I tried to use the ones from ati.com they didn't work, I installed the ati.com drivers for my last kernel ... (so that I could use XGL), but they won't load when I reinstall for my current kernel ...
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> CrippsFX: did you rebuild them for your new kernel?
[11:03] <CrippsFX> (and using the ATI control panel I get the same results)
[11:04] <polpak> jonykal: did you put in the wep key (to the network tool)? and are you sure you've selected the correct essid, and key type?
[11:04] <CrippsFX> fyrestrtr, I did, once. But, as I said, I built them for my current kernel, and installed them. After that when I tried "modprobe fglrx" it couldn't find the fglrx module, and my Xorg would mess up when it was set up to use that module.
[11:04] <polpak> jonykal: because it looks like it's just not configured right
[11:04] <Madpilot> chemaja, switch to real XChat, it's far more usable than that mess that is XChat-Gnome
[11:05] <billy> africa is swell
[11:05] <nocti> how do i update ubuntu on a non-connected box? thanks
[11:05] <billy> i live in a hutt
[11:05] <billy> next to a tree
[11:05] <billy> with a coconut
[11:05] <chemaja> Madpilot: but... think of the children! And Gnome Desktop! ;-)
[11:05] <Madpilot> billy, off topic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...
[11:05] <billy> sry
[11:05] <billy> what is the topic?>
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> CrippsFX: you have two serverlayout sections?
[11:06] <Lobster> nocti, you can set up the sources.list to use a DVD as repository
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> CrippsFX: comment out the top one.
[11:06] <Evil_Ed`> hey
[11:06] <Madpilot> chemaja, I love Gnome, it rocks - but the same is not true of XChat-Gnome... it's a cut-down abortion of a program
[11:06] <nocti> Lobster, where is sources.list located? thanks
[11:06] <Lobster> but i'm not sure if it works for updates
[11:06] <Evil_Ed`> not sure
[11:06] <chemaja> Madpilot: lol, switching........................... now
[11:06] <billy> i like the way you handeled airzer0
[11:06] <billy> he sux
[11:06] <Lobster> /etc/apt/soures.list
[11:07] <nocti> Lobster, thanks
[11:07] <CrippsFX> fyrestrtr, I had the other one commented out, and it gave me the same results.
[11:07] <taavi> hi
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> dunno what is wrong with it to be honest.
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> haven't done dual head on my laptop yet.
[11:07] <GStubbs43> Anyone know if it is okay to delete key.gpg.asc in my home folder (I believe it is from automatix)
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> GStubbs43: is it bothering you?>
[11:07] <jonykal> polpak: ive tryed both key types (ascii & hex) and ime sure i selected the right eesid but i cant specifically select WEP-OPEN (no option availiable)
[11:08] <jonykal> polpak: what can i do?
[11:08] <CrippsFX> fyrestrtr, dang. thanks for trying though, it is appreciated :)
[11:08] <Darkside3> hi
[11:08] <GStubbs43> Actually, yes fyrestrtr. ;)
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> then delete it
[11:08] <taavi> how can i get my sys tray back?
[11:08] <taavi> i accidentally removed it
[11:08] <GStubbs43> Well, will it mess anything up?
[11:08] <Madpilot> taavi, right-click on the panel, choose Add To Panel, select Notification Area
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> GStubbs43: guess you'll have to find that out.
[11:09] <GStubbs43> fyrestrtr: Thanks. ;)
[11:09] <lucas> hi, I installed ubuntu server, but no messages are shown during boot (there's no splash in the server edition). I really need to see those messages....
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> GStubbs43: it won't.
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> lucas: dmesg
[11:09] <GStubbs43> All right.
[11:09] <lucas> I'm talking about post-init messages, not the kernel ones
[11:09] <lucas> I get the kernel ones
[11:10] <taavi> thanks
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> lucas: like?
[11:10] <lucas> like "starting openssh server: ."
[11:10] <lucas> :-)
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> ah
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> those
[11:11] <DJAdmiral> !avi
[11:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> remove the 'quiet' from your grub line
[11:12] <jonykal> polpak: what about i disable the security in my accespoint and i try to conect that way
[11:12] <polpak> jonykal: sounds like a good idea
[11:13] <lucas> fyrestrtr:
[11:13] <lucas> lnussbaum@idpot6:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
[11:13] <lucas> root=/dev/hda2 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400n8
[11:13] <ist> http://ist.f2o.org
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash video=vesafb
[11:14] <DJAdmiral> what'd what ist guy just come in and post a url for nothing?
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> that's the line.
[11:15] <Amaranth> DJAdmiral: he is spamming
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> oh just saw what you posted.
[11:15] <Madpilot> DJAdmiral, spammers - I wouldn't click on it, it's probably goatse or porn...
[11:15] <Amaranth> Madpilot: it's spanish
[11:15] <lucas> I know, but the point is: I don't have quiet in my /proc/cmdline
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> sorry, lag here lucas.
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> don't know why you don't see anything -- such is not the case on my server install :(
[11:16] <DJAdmiral> meh
[11:16] <azcazandco> hello folks, anyone here ever got gimpshop up and running?
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> a shop to sell gimps?
[11:16] <lucas> it's a cluster node, so I might be using non-standard /proc/cmdline
[11:17] <lucas> or maybe it's the serial console ...
[11:17] <Half-Left> gah, damn nvidia driver :/
[11:17] <MatthewV> fyrestrtr, its a gimp interface that replicates the photoshop interface
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> MatthewV: I know, just having some fun.
[11:17] <nikin> good morning
[11:17] <MatthewV> fyrestrtr, no problems :)
[11:18] <Half-Left> fyrestrtr, still not luck, unable to load module "nvidia" no module name nvidia exsists :/
[11:18] <azcazandco> I am trying to work from this how to - http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/ but I am having trouble with some of the packages
[11:18] <Half-Left> no*
[11:19] <jonykal> polpak: is there any util to detect availiable networks?
[11:19] <tuna> Here's a dumb question for you: How can I reboot x without restarting the system?
[11:19] <zugu> hi all
[11:20] <polpak> jonykal: well, the easy way is to go to the networking gui tool, and click the down arrow on essid
[11:20] <nikin> tuna : Ctrl Alt Bkspace
[11:21] <jonykal> polpak: that should display availiable networks???? ive typed in manually
[11:22] <jonykal> polpak: something is not right
[11:22] <polpak> jonykal: you can type it in if you like, but clicking the dropdown should display the networks also
[11:22] <taavi> how can i watch avi videos
[11:22] <nikin> jonykal there is a gui in System>Administratein>networking
[11:23] <nikin> there click on the wlan card
[11:23] <nikin> and the settings button
[11:23] <tuna> thanks
[11:23] <nikin> there will be a rolldown menu on the top side of the window with the networks
[11:23] <zugu> as many of you know, more and more ISPs are blocking BitTorrent traffic; because of this, more and more trackers are banning clients that use ports lower than 10000; the default Ubuntu BitTorrent client is in this situation and I want to change the ports it is listening to; however, i just can't find a freaking configuration window! the lack of options is just shocking! can soneone please help me? please don't recommend oher clients, it's about the default one
[11:23] <nikin> you can set the wep there to
[11:24] <jonykal> nikin: yes ive done that but the networks don't show up
[11:24] <polpak> jonykal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo is a good place to look for examples on using the command line tools
[11:24] <nikin> zugu: ISP-s arent blocking all ports over 10000
[11:25] <polpak> jonykal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking shows the gui
[11:25] <zugu> nikin > no, they are blocking ports below 10000
[11:25] <MenZa> What thing, azcazandco?
[11:25] <zugu> nikin > I just want to make the client use ports higher than 10000; but where is the options window?
[11:25] <azcazandco> getting gimpshop installed
[11:26] <azcazandco> I have tried several things
[11:26] <MenZa> Get the .deb.
[11:26] <azcazandco> have tried that
[11:26] <MenZa> Hmm.
[11:26] <T0k3n> hello
[11:26] <azcazandco> it never seemed to do very much when I tried it
[11:26] <MenZa> Let me just warn you; it's nothing like Photoshop
[11:26] <taavi> how can i watch avi videos
[11:26] <MenZa> !restrictedformats > taavi
[11:26] <tenco> hi
[11:26] <azcazandco> MenZa: I have gathered that from what I have read
[11:26] <MenZa> I was extremely disappointed when I first tried it.
[11:26] <MenZa> Anyway.
[11:26] <tenco> how do i set gnome's PATH-Variable?
[11:26] <MenZa> I couldn't compile it.
[11:26] <MenZa> I found a deb.
[11:27] <Bassetts> how can i restore the firefox and thunderbird logos?
[11:27] <azcazandco> MenZa: I am finding thr whole gimp a nightmare to work with
[11:27] <azcazandco> I am trying hard but have 8yrs of photoshop behind me
[11:27] <T0k3n> looking for a good torrent program other than azeurs, bittorrent, bittornaddo?
[11:27] <azcazandco> and gimp just isnt as intuitive
[11:27] <nikin> zugu: where is the application? how can i start it?
[11:27] <zugu> nikin > that is the problem, you can only start it by downloading a torrent
[11:28] <nikin> thats not a problem, give me a sec
[11:28] <sanmarcos> webmin is not in ubuntu?
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> zugu: alacarte menu editor > internet > right click on bittorrent, then in the Command dialog, edit it so its gnome-btdownload --minport 10000 --maxport 15000 %U
[11:28] <Darkside3> i find azureus is the best
[11:29] <zugu> fyrestrtr > thank you so much, I thought no one could help me
[11:30] <zugu> fyrestrtr > what is the meaning of %U ? I find it in almost all the shortcuts in the menu
[11:30] <MenZa> azcazandco, trust me. I know how you feel.
[11:30] <MenZa> 4 years of Photoshop for me.
[11:30] <MenZa> The Gimp was a nightmare to work with
[11:30] <T0k3n> i like to eat waffles
[11:30] <azcazandco> and have you managed to adjust?
[11:30] <MenZa> Never.
[11:31] <azcazandco> I am tempted to get windows running in a virtual machine
[11:31] <chemaja> Madpilot, aah xchat... MUCH faster, thanks :-D
[11:31] <ccooke> MenZa: According to my (graphics artist type) wife, the main problem is the gimp *is* pretty good, but people are so used to photoshop, they can't find anything...
[11:31] <MenZa> ccooke, I agree.
[11:31] <MenZa> GIMP is nice, once you know how to use it
[11:31] <azcazandco> but I am stressed at the thought of having to configure samba and a host of other things
[11:31] <MenZa> But it really feels like it was designed to be as different from Photoshop as possible.
[11:31] <chemaja> ccooke, what about that KDE one... what was it called again?
[11:31] <MenZa> kart?
[11:32] <ccooke> chemaja: never used it
[11:32] <azcazandco> gimp looks real powerful
[11:32] <MenZa> And it is.
[11:32] <chemaja> krita, i think
[11:32] <smacky_wolf> Hey guys. My sound has departed once more. How can I see what's using my soundcard?
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> zugu: its the argument to the passed file, iirc
[11:32] <MenZa> krita, yeah.
[11:32] <azcazandco> but even simple things like not being able to hit the v key and move stuff about is just killing me
[11:32] <azcazandco> had a look at pixel but not willing to part with cash for a a *beta* product
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> zugu: and for more options, man gnome-btdownload
[11:33] <zugu> fyrestrtr > I noticed that the applications also launch and work perfectly without the %U argument; what does it actually do? is it bad to leave it out when manyally creating launchers ?
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> I am not sure to be honest, but I believe it has to do the default arguments.
[11:34] <tenco> so, there's no way for setting PATH in gnome?
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> tenco: for what?
[11:35] <tenco> fyrestrtr: gnome
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> you want to set a path in gnome, for gnome?
[11:35] <azcazandco> MenZa: Just found this which might help me http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php
[11:35] <tenco> fyrestrtr: gnome desktop environment: http://www.gnome.org
[11:35] <MenZa> cool, azcazandco
[11:35] <azcazandco> is to do with remapping keys
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> tenco: yes, thank you. I know what gnome is.
[11:36] <nikin> !life
[11:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about life - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:36] <tenco> fyrestrtr: yes. like, when i start applications with alt-f2 and have custom applications installed in, let's say ~/opt, and i don't want to give a complete path to an application i installed there
[11:37] <tenco> fyrestrtr: or this installed application needs some other application which it cannot find, because the path it's installed is not in the PATH variable
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> tenco: this is something you have to setup in your shell. export PATH=$PATH:/home/yourusername/opt
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> tenco: edit .bashrc to make this permanent
[11:38] <tenco> fyrestrtr: i don't want to start this application from a terminal, but from gnome
[11:38] <tenco> fyrestrtr: from a starter in my panels eg.
[11:38] <smacky_wolf> Anyone, how can I see what is using /dev/dsp?
[11:39] <doluu> is there any way to mark package to not upgrade in future?
[11:39] <nikin> !codec
[11:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:39] <nikin> !codeca
[11:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about codeca - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:39] <_roman_> hi eveyone! does ynone know if wake on lan works with usb wireless network cards?
[11:39] <nikin> !codecs
[11:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> tenco: if the application relies on binaries that are in the path, you need to either append the full path to those file to the current path, or edit the app so that it calls the binaries with the fully qualified path. So, either edit /etc/profile and set the path there, or call your binaries with the full path from the panel.
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> doluu: synaptic, right click, freeze.
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> _roman_: I don't think it does.
[11:40] <doluu> but from command line?
[11:40] <_roman_> fyestr: any docs somewhere?
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> _roman_: google would be where I would start
[11:41] <braini> anyone can help me with syslog? i have a minor issue... at 7:40 in the morning (every day) syslogs gets restarted... but only one mark will be set after that... at 8 o'clock... but it supposed to be every 2 minutes after that...
[11:41] <braini> 20 minutes
[11:41] <tenco> fyrestrtr: sorry, no. i did it with other environments when i used ~/.xsession , so it should work with gnome likewise
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> tenco: you want to execute it at session startup?
[11:42] <_roman_> ok ill google
[11:42] <tenco> fyrestrtr: i want that the whole gnome session (and all instances of it) knows this extra path
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> tenco: you could try adjusting the path in a script, then sticking that in the startup tab of the sessions applet ( system > preferences > session > startup tab )
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> tenco: that way, it would affect that entire session, and anytime you started a gnome session.
[11:43] <tenco> fyrestrtr: ok, i will try. additionally, i will ask on gimpnet
[11:43] <tenco> fyrestrtr: thanks
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> tenco: also try ##gnome
[11:44] <Bergcube> What bash-command will tell me how much RAM Ubuntu has found in the computer?
[11:44] <tenco> fyrestrtr: i did already. not so crowded :-\
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> Bergcube: free -lm
[11:45] <tammy_004> <:-)
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> Bergcube: or cat /proc/meminfo
[11:45] <Bergcube> fyrestrtr~  Thanks a lot.  Worked like a charm.
[11:45] <Bassetts> how can i restore grub after install windows =(
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[11:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:46] <Bassetts> thankyou
[11:46] <tammy_004> !n00b
[11:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about n00b - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:46] <smacky_wolf> OK, a reset of X confirms my sound does indeed work. The Gnome login made the noises it should, I just can't use my sound device becuase something else is.
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> have you already tried !dmix?
[11:47] <Dravas> What is a good app to make an FTP server out of my PC
[11:47] <farous> smacky_wolf: lsof /dev/dsp
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> proftpd, pureftpd etc. There are many.
[11:47] <farous> will tell you what is using the sound
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> Dravas: but if you just want to transfer files, use scp
[11:48] <tammy_004> try www.win98.xp/madpilot_sux-C0ck.swf/hehe
[11:48] <smacky_wolf> farous, thanks
[11:48] <Dravas> I just want a simple FTP server running
[11:48] <Dravas> I'll try those
[11:50] <zugu> anyone know if streamripper will work with rythmbox ?
[11:51] <nrdb> is there a gnome applet that can display text in the panel?
[11:51] <Bassetts> how do i find out where grub is currently installed?
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> whats a gif-like animation format for linux/?
[11:51] <braini> gif?
[11:51] <zugu> pppoe_dude > try svg
[11:51] <braini> why not gif ^^
[11:51] <zugu> pppoe_dude > actually, svg is a vector format
[11:52] <pppoe_dude> zugu, i am quite familisr with svg
[11:52] <pppoe_dude> does it do frames like gifs do?
[11:53] <zugu> pppoe_dude > actually, it's more like flash - the devs want to replace the flash proprietary format with the free, open svg one
[11:53] <pppoe_dude> and i dont think it would work i\on all browsers
[11:53] <__w> 000111011 0111 11000 001
[11:53] <pppoe_dude> ya
[11:53] <zugu> pppoe_dude > I thing it works on everything, except text based browsers and IE
[11:53] <pppoe_dude> does it work ok IE?
[11:53] <pppoe_dude> ok
[11:53] <Bassetts> how do i find out where grub is currently installeD?
[11:54] <zugu> pppoe_dude > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics
[11:54] <LazyMukke> hey , when working from the live cd, what's my root pswd ?
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: it installs by default on your MBR -- which is on the first bootable disk in your system.
[11:54] <nrdb> Bassetts: by standard it isn't on any partition but a special block of the drive
[11:54] <Madpilot> LazyMukke, there isn't one - everything should work on the LiveCD without a pw
[11:54] <linux_manju> LazyMukke: There isnt any.. If you want do sudo su -
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: I don't know of a way to detect where it is, since the MBR is not normally accessible.
[11:54] <tzfardea> hey i have problem the volume of my microphone is very very low
[11:54] <linux_manju> LazyMukke: Then passwd root will set the password
[11:54] <toodles> Hi Everyone. I have a problem with my network connection. It was setup with DHCP during installation. There were no errors then and there are no errors during boot. However I cannot connect to the internet unless I go into the network settings and deactivate eth0 and then reactivate it. After I do that everything works fine, but I have to do that everytime I start my computer. Any ideas?
[11:55] <zugu> anyone know if streamripper works with rythmbox ?
[11:55] <lhds> how to rm  a file with space inbetween ? like Windows XP Professional.vmx
[11:55] <linux_manju> toodles: Check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:56] <linux_manju> toodles: There should be "auto eth0" line If it isnt it wont come up
[11:56] <toodles> linux_manju, ok, 1 sec
[11:56] <LazyMukke> Madpilot : even 'mount' ?
[11:56] <tzfardea> lhds, escape the spaces with \
[11:56] <cowmilk> i would like the Ubuntu Installer iwith text install. which ISO should i download?
[11:56] <smacky_wolf> Bwahah. Fixed it. =3
[11:56] <sobersabre> toodles when the computer starts, what is the status of the interface ?
[11:56] <zugu> cowmilk > I think the server one
[11:56] <linux_manju> lhds: rm file\ after speace
[11:56] <Madpilot> LazyMukke, I'm pretty sure, yeah. Just do 'sudo mount ...' and it should work
[11:56] <tzfardea> how can i change the volume of my microphone? it's very low...
[11:56] <nrdb> toodles: as far as I know it isn't possible for DHCP to configure its own interfaces, all the interfaces on the must be static IP, or configured by another DHCP server.
[11:57] <lhds> man its with a space on the filesystem
[11:57] <toodles> linux_manju, That line is there.
[11:57] <toodles> sobersabre, The interface says its active.
[11:57] <section31> how can i have 2 commands at startup?
[11:57] <nikin> did anyone sucseed to install the Canon CCPD driver?
[11:57] <lhds> Windows XP Professional.vmx the space inbetween the words is available but when i rm the file with the space it does not delete file unavailable
[11:57] <linux_manju> toodles: Does it match this...
[11:57] <zugu> lhds > try encapsulating the file name between "" or ''
[11:57] <linux_manju> toodles: auto eth0
[11:57] <linux_manju> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:58] <sobersabre> toodles toodles does it have an IP address ?
[11:58] <cowmilk> zugu: i want text install, but i want gui after install
[11:58] <linux_manju> lhds: try rm filepart\ and tab should complete
[11:58] <tzfardea> lhds, rm Windows\ XP\ Professional.vmx
[11:58] <toodles> sobersabre, give me a minute to reboot and check
[11:58] <zugu> cowmilk > you might want to install the ubuntu server version, and the installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:58] <sobersabre> toodles wait
[11:58] <nrdb> when I install the LiveCD it allowed me to resize the windows XP NTFS filesystem what command did that?  I would like to make it smaller again.
[11:58] <lhds> is the /temp directory limited with a certain amount of space?>
[11:58] <LazyMukke> and how to see all devices not mounted ?
[11:58] <cowmilk> zugu: is that better than just getting the alternate iso?
[11:59] <cowmilk> doesn't the alterrnate iso have the Text Install?
[11:59] <sobersabre> what is the connection ? DSL / cables ? modem ? is this a wifi connection ?
[11:59] <toodles> sobersabre, sure. I was gonna to a reboot and run ifconfig and check.
[11:59] <zugu> cowmilk > dunno
[11:59] <jonykal> hi
[11:59] <lhds> the /tmp folder is limited to a certain amount of space?
[11:59] <nrdb> lhds: it is limited to the size of the drive it is mounted on check out 'df' to see.
[11:59] <whadar> !samba
[11:59] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:59] <jonykal> how can i see the warnings that ocour douring the boot procces
[11:59] <jonykal> ?
[12:00] <linux_manju> jonykal: dmesg
[12:00] <tzfardea> how can i change the volume of my microphone? it's very low...
[12:00] <toodles> sobersabre, its connected to a dsl linksys  router that's working perfectly. All other devices don't have a problem connecting.
[12:00] <jonykal> linux_manju: thanx
[12:00] <sobersabre> ok
[12:00] <linux_manju> jonykal: NP
[12:01] <sobersabre> toodles you need to check 3 things: 1. is the default gw setup OK, 2. is resolv.conf - a correct file, 3. is the IP configured.
[12:01] <toodles> linux_manju, yeah, it matches iface tho0 inet dhcp
[12:01] <lhds> how to empty /tmp?
[12:01] <toodles> sobersabre, gw setup?
[12:01] <sobersabre> default gateway
[12:01] <jonykal> linux_manju: what does this mean: hdb: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00
[12:01] <sobersabre> issue a command:
[12:02] <sobersabre> route -n
[12:02] <doluu> tnx
[12:02] <nrdb> lhds: it get cleared at bootup otherwise you can use 'rm'
[12:02] <sobersabre> and it should display routing table. look at the line beginning with <IP_ADDRESS> and see what computer it routes to
[12:02] <sobersabre> (IP)
[12:02] <linux_manju> jonykal: Looks like some IDE drive error..
[12:02] <sobersabre> usually it should be router's IP
[12:03] <nrdb> I have a dual booting Linux/WinXP I would like to shrink the winXP partition what is the best way to do this?
[12:03] <fortr> i have a compaq armada e500 and i can't get it to boot from the ubuntu live cd. the bios instructs it to do so, but it doesn't. is there any way i can make it run the cd? can i boot with a floppy and force it to start the cd from that?
[12:03] <linux_manju> toodles: Lets say You have rebooted just now..
[12:04] <toodles> sobersabre, 1 sec, command route not found.
[12:04] <mp3guy> hi, I've got a very serious problem; this has happened twice, I boot up ubuntu and then it scans /dev/hda2 to check for errors, it gives me hundreds of errors, and when I reboot nothing can be found in /lib/modules/(uname -r) and thus video, mouse and wifi drivers don't load, is this a hard drive problem? Is there a more rigourous disk scanning utility I can used as opposed to fsck?
[12:04] <sobersabre> then /sbin/route
[12:04] <linux_manju> toodles: What happens if you try to ping the DSL routers IP
[12:04] <jonykal> linux_manju: i think i saw something about a module that seemed to be my wificard module failed to load how can i see something more useful than hdb: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00
[12:04] <toodles> linux_manju, I didn't reboot yet, but if you give me a sec I will, and I'll tell you.
[12:05] <sobersabre> mp3guy is the hda2 the disk where linux is installed ?
[12:05] <linux_manju> toodles: Better I guess.. Is it the same PC you are using now??
[12:05] <toodles> no
[12:05] <mp3guy> sobersabre, yes its my root partition
[12:05] <taavi> hi, for some reason my update manager say that it cannot start cause another software management tool is running although none is.
[12:05] <linux_manju> toodles: Fine then reboot and.. run Ifconfig.. and paste the output here
[12:05] <sobersabre> it usually suggests to run something. did you run that something ?
[12:05] <sobersabre> ( mp3guy that's for you )
[12:06] <toodles> linux_manju, ok, rebooting now
[12:06] <jonykal> taavi: it might be that you habe the synaptic pakage manager open or some apt procces running
[12:06] <nikin> taavi: the updater is not running?
[12:06] <mp3guy> it said run fsck manually, I did, fixed all these errors, then all those files disappeared, I had to switch to the nv driver and reinstall all my kernel stuff
[12:06] <jonykal> have*
[12:06] <taavi> but i dont have anything open
[12:06] <AlexC_> hey
[12:07] <sobersabre> mp3guy and after the reinstall ... is everything working properly ?
[12:07] <taavi> yes, the updater is not running
[12:07] <nikin> taavi: is there an orange icon near the clock?
[12:07] <nrdb> taavi: try deleting the '/var/lib/apt/lists/lock' file
[12:07] <taavi> ok, itry
[12:07] <mp3guy> sobersabre, yes working fine.
[12:07] <taavi> yes there is
[12:07] <sobersabre> what's your harddisk's age ?
[12:08] <mp3guy> just over a year
[12:08] <sobersabre> mp3guy and what do you use it for ?
[12:08] <sobersabre> ( e.g. multitrack harddisk recording can be very exhausting... )
[12:08] <jonykal> has anyone here a bcm 4318 wificard??
[12:08] <nrdb> taavi: did that fix it?
[12:09] <taavi> a sec
[12:09] <tenco> smacky_wolf:  'lsof /dev/dsp' should do it
[12:09] <sobersabre> jonykal is this that "Microsoft" wifi card ?
[12:09] <mp3guy> sobersabre, just normal stuff, web surfing, music listening, small bit of dvd editing,
[12:09] <taavi> what was the command for removing?
[12:09] <jamey2> How can I easily install MythTV on Ubuntu 6.06?
[12:09] <sobersabre> mp3guy maybe the DVD editing is not the best thing to do on root partition.
[12:10] <sobersabre> mp3guy what is the partition scheme u use ?
[12:10] <Ng> jamey2: enable universe and multiverse, then you can install it with apt-get or synaptic
[12:10] <jonykal> sobersabre: ??? i dunno? how can i tell? as far as i know its a broadcom card also i know it is a very common card in hp laptops
[12:10] <jamey2> Ng: okay thanks, but someone else told me that the packages available there are unreliable with MySQL.
[12:10] <ViktorMento> how can I edit the menus for all users in gnome/ubuntu?
[12:10] <linux_manju> toodles: still booting... Dont enable the interface this time..
[12:10] <sobersabre> no, jonykal the oposite: there are external pcmcia microsoft cards, which are actually based on bmc
[12:11] <sobersabre> bcm
[12:11] <kidbuntu> who knows how to install vmware in ubuntu?
[12:11] <whadar> do i need netbios or wins enabled for a cifs mount?
[12:11] <linux_manju> toodles: Just do an ifconfig
[12:11] <Ng> jamey2: I wouldn't know about that I'm afraid, but you could check for any bugs about that at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bugs
[12:11] <jamey2> Ng: thanks!
[12:11] <petemc> can someone confirm that openwebmail didnt make it into dapper?
[12:12] <mp3guy> sobersabre, Oh, I don't use the root partition for any of that, the root partition is just for the ubuntu installation and desktop, partition scheme is; 8gb ext2 root, 60gb fat32 partition for data, 1gb swap
[12:13] <toodles> linux_manju, I did that. There is no ip for eth0. The line with "inet: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx bcast: etc etc" is not present for eth0.
[12:13] <jonykal> sobersabre: i can tell you its an integrated card. and i was unable to install it in my old ubuntu installation but the new one seemed to have detected it without much trouble
[12:13] <taavi> nrdb- no it didnt fix it
[12:13] <toodles> linux_manju, the inet6 addr line is there, but not the inet.
[12:13] <nikin> toodles: are you connecting to DHCP
[12:13] <nikin> ?
[12:14] <toodles> nikin, yes
[12:14] <jonykal> sobersabre: i mean i can see it in the device manager and also i can see it if i type iwconfig but i cant connect
[12:14] <jonykal> lol
[12:14] <nikin> toodles then ifconfig eth0 down after that ifconfig eth0 up
[12:15] <sobersabre> jonykal it can depend on wpa_supplicant.
[12:15] <sobersabre> toodles, I think you need to dump your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.
[12:15] <toodles> sobersabre, np
[12:15] <jonykal> sobersabre: what's that?
[12:15] <solsTiCe> hi. i have a luks encrypted partition.  when i login i got a pmount-hal window that ask for my passwd. but then after that it freezes ! how to remove that window or make it work ?
[12:16] <toodles> nikin, i didn't run them commands yet, give me a sec
[12:16] <sobersabre> jonykal wpa is a software for wireless protected access (if I am not wrong)
[12:16] <sobersabre> if your access point uses wpa, you need to use wpa_supplicant
[12:17] <taavi> i run update manager and it says another software management tool is already running although none are. waht to do?
[12:17] <taavi> what'
[12:17] <toodles> sobersabre, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19465
[12:17] <sobersabre> taavi, run pgrep apt
[12:17] <nikin> toodles: kk
[12:17] <mp3guy> sobersabre, I don't use the root partition for any of that, the root partition is just for the ubuntu installation and desktop, partition scheme is; 8gb ext2 root, 60gb fat32 partition for data, 1gb swap
[12:18] <jonykal> sobersabre: i use a 2wire wireless router. and how do i use a wap supplicant?
[12:18] <taavi> okei, i runned it..nothing happend
[12:18] <nikin> mp3guy: why ext2?
[12:18] <mp3guy> nikin, sorry, ext3
[12:18] <toodles> nikin, I did that. Doesn't seem to be any change. Didn't work.
[12:19] <toodles> linux_manju, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19465 is my interfaces file. Any ideas what to do or try?
[12:19] <cyphase> is there a service that lets you send images from a camera phone to a phone number then download it?
[12:20] <nikin> toodles System>Administration>networking there et0 settings?
[12:20] <sobersabre> toodles do you have dhcp up on your router ?
[12:20] <nikin> toodles: are you connecting to a router?
[12:20] <toodles> sobersabre, yes
[12:20] <toodles> nikin, yes
[12:20] <solsTiCe> is it a bug or what? when i use cryptsetup on the command line it asks me twice my passphrase ???
[12:21] <fortr> i have a compaq armada e500 and i can't get it to boot from the ubuntu live cd. the bios instructs it to do so, but it doesn't. is there any way i can make it run the cd? can i boot with a floppy and force it to start the cd from that?
[12:21] <toodles> sobersabre, I had this problem before, but it was solved by reinstallin ubuntu. I just don't want to have to reinstall in twice.
[12:21] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[12:22] <taavi> when running synaptic manager i get this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:22] <taavi> ?
[12:22] <sobersabre> toodles you don't need to "solve" by reinstalling, especially without understanding what was wrong
[12:23] <toodles> nikin, everything is normal in these settings. Interface name is eth0 and its setup as dhcp.
[12:23] <sobersabre> taavi DO THAT.
[12:23] <taavi> i dont know how...
[12:23] <sobersabre> toodles what network card do you use?
[12:23] <toodles> sobersabre, True. Sorry. I do want to find out what is wrong. I really want to understand why it's not working.
[12:23] <Dimensions> hi i have installed ubuntu on macmini but by default when it loads the option is to mac os how can i change it to ubuntu ?
[12:23] <jonykal> taavi: copy and paste that code to a terminal
[12:23] <sobersabre> taavi type: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in the terminal
[12:23] <nikin> toodles: it says its inactive?
[12:23] <taavi> ok
[12:24] <toodles> sobersabre, I don't know.  The command in question is nvidia-settings -l, which adjusts gamma settings and such (it's currently /very/ dark).
[12:25] <nikin> sobersabre: i admit, but then it should be neither active or yes?
[12:25] <nikin> btw maybe forcing an IP could make us wiser
[12:25] <toodles> sobersabre, ok, looking through it
[12:25] <sobersabre> nikin if the interface is up, but unconfigured, it is active.
[12:25] <cyphase> nvm
[12:25] <nikin> sobersabre: then sorry, didnt know
[12:25] <sobersabre> toodles u can use "grep" to look for thernet, like: lspci | grep thernet
[12:25] <j0nney> hi
[12:26] <toodles> nikin, when clicking on "networking" the default gateway is not selected.
[12:26] <sobersabre> toodles is this a wired network ?
[12:26] <toodles> sobersabre, yeah, I'll do that
[12:26] <sobersabre> toodles don't click anything.
[12:26] <nikin> toodles: i think maybe the DHCP has problems, so maybe forcing an ip?
[12:26] <sobersabre> ok ?
[12:26] <nikin> but sobersabre knows it better :D
[12:26] <toodles> sobersabre, It's a wired network. Didn't click any settings.
[12:27] <sobersabre> toodles is this a desktop or laptop ?
[12:27] <toodles> sobersabre, "lspci | grep eth" returns nothing.
[12:27] <toodles> sobersabre, its a desktop/
[12:27] <sobersabre> toodles "lspci | grep thernet"
[12:27] <sobersabre> not eth
[12:27] <toodles> nikin, how can that be? All other devices connected to it work fine.
[12:28] <sobersabre> toodles how many IP addresses can your DHCP Server give ?
[12:28] <sobersabre> (what is the range)
[12:28] <nikin> toodles: dont realy know... i had no problems with DHCP nor wired nor wirless networks
[12:28] <toodles> sobersabre, 1 sec
[12:28] <[Wiebel] > is there some applet for gnome which shows if caps/num/scrol-lock are on or off?
[12:28] <j0nney> silly man
[12:28] <Dimensions> hi i have installed ubuntu on macmini but by default when it loads the option is to mac os how can i change it to ubuntu ?
[12:29] <sobersabre> [Wiebel]  isn't the LED on the keyboard good enough ?
[12:29] <[Wiebel] > sobersabre: there is no led
[12:29] <[Wiebel] > wireless keyboard
[12:29] <[Wiebel] > that's the whole issue :)
[12:29] <toodles> sobersabre, bridge: nvidia corporation MCP51 ETHERNET CONTROLLER (rev a1)
[12:29] <sobersabre> toodles, ok.
[12:30] <sobersabre> so, how many IPs in the DHCP pool ?
[12:30] <sobersabre> I mean there's a range in dhcp settings.
[12:30] <sobersabre> shite, I must go.
[12:30] <sobersabre> brb in an hour.
[12:30] <Jhair> test
[12:30] <toodles> sobersabre, about 100. There isn't even 5 devices connected to it. It worked before, just not now.
[12:30] <sobersabre> toodles run:
[12:30] <sobersabre> mii-tool
[12:30] <sobersabre> as root
[12:30] <sobersabre> what does it show ?
[12:31] <j0nney> suto apt-get install STFU?
[12:31] <sobersabre> ok. I'll be back soon
[12:31] <toodles> sobersabre, ok, talk to you in a minute
[12:32] <jono> hi all
[12:32] <jono> is henrik nillson omma here?
[12:33] <toodles> sobersabre, SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported.
[12:33] <toodles> sobersabre, no MII interfaces found.
[12:33] <cowmilk> I've opened up my computer case. I see something called ATI Rage 128. Is that what's called a video card?
[12:33] <dibblego> does Ubuntu support most USB headsets or is there some fiddling required?
[12:34] <nikin> cowmilk: yes
[12:34] <cowmilk> nikin: thanks
[12:36] <bimberi> jono: heno is currently in #ubuntu-accessibility
[12:36] <AlexC_> Is there a way to change the Middle Mouse Wheel Click - to act as Double Click?
[12:37] <DJAdmiral> Hi, I've followed the instructions on RestrictedFormats in order to play other formats, but I still can't play AVI files, can anyone help please?
[12:40] <survivor> hey
[12:40] <survivor> aren't there any ubuntu live cd's anymore? :|
[12:40] <petemc> the install cd is a live cd
[12:40] <Madpilot> survivor, it's called the Desktop CD now
[12:41] <survivor> ah. That sounds funny.
[12:41] <Dixon85> Hi. How can I disable SELinux? What's SELinux for?
[12:42] <GStubbs43> How can I connect go to http://localhost:8000/ on a Windows PC on the same network, and be able to have the same thing on the Windows PC as the ubuntu? (Sorry if that was confusing)
[12:42] <bimberi> survivor: you can install from it as well, so to just continue to just call it the live cd would have misled
[12:43] <tripppy> bluetooth headsets for mobile phones working with ubuntu? is it possible?
[12:43] <Blinker> tripppy: yes
[12:44] <Blinker> up to you to find the hardware though
[12:44] <whadar> i keep getting these permission denied errors from my ubuntu server when trying to mount.cifs... here's the mount:
[12:44] <Dimensions>  is there any GPRS modem usb supported by ubuntu ?
[12:44] <dibblego> Blinker, do you have any experience with USB headsets on Ubuntu? I'm looking at buying one: http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2
[12:44] <whadar> sudo mount.cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/chroot /tmp/cifs -o guest ro
[12:45] <Blinker> dibblego: not really, but i do have some experience with bluetooth
[12:45] <whadar> i think something wrong with my smb.conf... :(
[12:45] <Blinker> lot of fun things you can do with it, actually =p
[12:45] <dibblego> Blinker, righto, I'm just hoping that it's not a lot of fiddling about
[12:45] <Patrick`> anyone have any idea how I might go about turning a bin/cue into an iso without extracting the music seperately like bchunk does?
[12:46] <Patrick`> I want the end result of burning to disk then ripping to iso without actually using a disk
[12:46] <whadar> can anyone post his smb.conf?
[12:46] <Patrick`> (there are mixed music and data tracks)
[12:46] <TheSheep> hello there
[12:47] <TheSheep> how do I make the Sun's java the default?
[12:47] <dibblego> TheSheep, add it to the PATH
[12:47] <Blinker> one of these days i'll find someone who knows how to enable SHMConfig....*whistles patiently* hehe
[12:47] <kana> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:47] <tripppy> Blinker; i have a nokia bluetooth headset and a USB bluetooth dongle. what do i need now?
[12:47] <TheSheep> kana: thanks
[12:47] <kana> ur welcomed
[12:47] <DJAdmiral> Patrick: there is a tool i know of to convert bin files into iso files, however it's a windoze proggie :|
[12:48] <Patrick`> I have a windows box available
[12:48] <DJAdmiral> Patrick': that tool is called BIN2ISO i think
[12:48] <mjr> DJAdmiral, Patrick`, bchunk will do it in Ubuntu
[12:48] <Patrick`> just as long as it doesn't split out the music tracks like bchunk
[12:48] <cbx33> hey, if I was using a gprs connection
[12:48] <mjr> Patrick`, well, the thing is, you _can't_ contain music tracks in an iso image
[12:48] <Patrick`> mjr: I can't find an option to preserve the music tracks inside the iso though
[12:48] <cbx33> how can I make sure no other processes access the network, but the ones I need
[12:48] <DJAdmiral> Patrick': do you want a link to BIN2ISO anyway?
[12:49] <Patrick`> DJAdmiral: I can find it, I think I saw it before when I was looking
[12:49] <Patrick`> mjr: so what happens when I rip a mixed mode CD to iso then?