[00:11] <Fao1987> Hi. Need help with Partition Tables
[00:12] <philipballew> Fao1987, whats up with them
[00:14] <Fao1987> I once tried to use MAC OSX and created a GPT table. Eventually I ended up deleting it and moving back to windows. Someone suggested to use linux. I want to dual boot windows and linux. But the prob is. everytime I try to install linux it doesn't picks up my current partitions. infact it shows me the gpt table which i created for MAC
[00:16] <philipballew> what system are you booted into now?
[00:17] <Fao1987> windows 7 Ultimate x32
[00:17] <Fao1987> My partitions are C 65 Gb, D 200 GB, E 200 GB
[00:17] <philipballew> can you boot into linux easily?
[00:18] <Fao1987> Through live CD yes. But I can't install it. Because it is not showing me any of my current drives in GParted
[00:20] <Fao1987> When I install linux, it shows me sda1 100GB, sda2 320 something GB
[00:20] <philipballew> I want you to boot into a live cd and use say gparted
[00:20] <Fao1987> as far as i can remember i used this partition table for Mac
[00:20] <philipballew> then take a picture of your partition table and show us here if you can?
[00:20] <Fao1987> ok
[00:21] <bobweaver> philipballew,  sudo fdisk -l
[00:21] <bobweaver> ?
[00:21] <philipballew> bobweaver, he's in windows now
[00:21] <philipballew> im getting him to ubuntu now
[00:22] <bobweaver> Sweet
[00:22] <Fao1987> i'm a total noob. how can I take a picture of my partition table after going into ubuntu?
[00:22] <holstein> Fao1987: i would back everything up
[00:23] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  you can use the command   sudo fdisk -l
[00:23] <philipballew> I would to back up
[00:23] <holstein> looks like your disk is not as you think it should be
[00:23] <holstein> i would get a gparted live disc, or use gparted from a live CD
[00:23] <philipballew> run bobweaver 's code and paste it into here
[00:23] <holstein> get rid of, and resize the partitions as you want them
[00:23] <bobweaver> then paste here or using paste.ubuntu,com I am also with the guys back up back up back up
[00:23] <holstein> then, the ubuntu installer will just automagically use whats left
[00:23] <philipballew> trust holstein he knows what he is talking about
[00:24] <holstein> philipballew: hehe
[00:24] <holstein> we hope
[00:24] <bobweaver> lol
[00:24] <bobweaver> we hope
[00:24] <holstein> i dont let the ubuntu installer resize the partions, but theres nothing wrong with letting it
[00:24] <holstein> Fao1987: do you know what i mean?
[00:24] <holstein> you want to make some empty space
[00:25] <Fao1987> yes I did shrink my D drive in windows
[00:25] <Fao1987> but thats the prob
[00:25] <Fao1987> I wanna dual boot
[00:25] <holstein> sure
[00:25] <Fao1987> When i'm running windows it shows 3 drives
[00:25] <bobweaver> at any Fao1987  welcome to ubuntu-beginners !
[00:26] <holstein> so, when you make some empty space, ubuntu will offer to install in the empty space
[00:26] <Fao1987> but when i run ubunut it shows 2
[00:26] <bobweaver> Fao1987 boot a live cd
[00:26] <holstein> or, it will offer to reinstall
[00:26] <holstein> wipe
[00:26] <Fao1987> it offers to wipe
[00:27] <Fao1987> it doesn't offer to install alongside windows
[00:27] <holstein> sure
[00:27] <holstein> but there are other drives to choose
[00:27] <holstein> theres a drop down
[00:27] <holstein> anyways, just get ubuntu running live and philipballew can get you where he was talking about
[00:27] <holstein> so you can look at the drive
[00:28] <philipballew> i'll be here for a while
[00:29] <Fao1987> ok
[00:29] <Fao1987> going offline to boot into ubuntu\
[00:29] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  cya soon
[00:31] <holstein> quite a few red flags here... we'll see
[00:32] <holstein> hopefully from the live desktop we'll see whats going on, and the installer can start from there too
[00:32] <holstein> assuming he makes it back
[00:32] <bobweaver> holstein, sure
[00:32] <bobweaver> I cant wait to see fdisk -l
[00:33] <philipballew> im pretty excited to
[00:33] <holstein> who knows what happend with that hackintosh setup though
[00:33] <bobweaver> :>)
[00:33] <bobweaver> I just found something that is real cool
[00:33] <bobweaver> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-October/026756.html
[00:34] <bobweaver> SUPER c0_ol
[00:34] <bobweaver> well some one names pici showed it to me
[00:34] <holstein> you building your own isos?
[00:35] <bobweaver> going to try it out
[00:36] <bobweaver> edit some of the config files
[00:37] <bobweaver> bodhi showed me live-debin which is awesome but this is unreal
[00:37] <bobweaver> so cool
[00:39] <Fao1987> booted into ubuntu
[00:39] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  SWEET
[00:40] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  open a terminal
[00:40] <Fao1987> open
[00:40] <bobweaver> type in
[00:40] <bobweaver> sudo fdisk -l
[00:40] <bobweaver> there is no password
[00:40] <bobweaver> just press enter
[00:40] <bobweaver> !paste | Fao1987
[00:40] <ubot2> Fao1987: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[00:41] <Fao1987> ok before doing this. I don't have backup. Should I be doing this?
[00:41] <bobweaver> you can do this 1st
[00:41] <bobweaver> whta fdisk -l does is says show me all the thngs that are on the harddrive
[00:41] <bobweaver> that is what the -l means "list "
[00:42] <Fao1987> ok
[00:43] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  I am not going to tell you to do anything to mod the harddrive I just want to see the partitions :>)
[00:43] <Fao1987> ok ok :)
[00:44] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182166
[00:44] <Fao1987> here it is
[00:44] <bobweaver> sweet Fao1987
[00:45] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  now
[00:45] <bobweaver> df -h
[00:46] <Fao1987> before df - h wanna show you what I was talking about
[00:47] <bobweaver> the -and h    need to be together  df<space>-h
[00:47] <Fao1987> ok this is what gparted shows http://imagebin.org/182168
[00:50] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182170
[00:50] <Fao1987> thats the other command
[00:50] <bobweaver> sweet Fao1987
[00:51] <bobweaver> good job
[00:51] <Fao1987> thanks
[00:51] <bobweaver> now do you want to keep the two partitions that are on there ?
[00:51] <Fao1987> so any ideas whats wrong?
[00:51] <Fao1987> yes ofcourse
[00:51] <Fao1987> I have data on both
[00:52] <bobweaver> well root mnt is on /dev/sda1
[00:52] <Fao1987> what I was trying to do, was resize D drive into giving around 50GB
[00:52] <bobweaver> do you see the * in the sudo fdisk -l    ?   under boot
[00:52] <Fao1987> yes
[00:53] <bobweaver> that is telling us that sda1 is the one to boot 1st :>)
[00:53] <Fao1987> ok but why the two partition tables?
[00:53] <bobweaver> now if we look at it there is only so much space
[00:54] <Fao1987> its 200 mb
[00:54] <bobweaver> so we can use a program called           grub 2             that is included in ubuntu
[00:54] <Fao1987> it was created when I installed mac
[00:54] <Fao1987> grub 2 ok
[00:54] <bobweaver> but first thing is first back up time
[00:54] <bobweaver> you have a blank dvd or usb ?
[00:55] <Fao1987> can't right now. my friend borrowed my 500gig external and I ran out of DVD's yesterday
[00:55] <bobweaver> ahh no :>)
[00:55] <Fao1987> didn't know I would be running into a mess :)
[00:55] <bobweaver> I hear that :>)
[00:56] <bobweaver> well let me look at it again
[00:56] <bobweaver> we might be able to use        Ubuntu One
[00:56] <Fao1987> ok
[00:56] <bobweaver> you get 5gigs of free online storage with ubuntu
[00:57] <Fao1987> yes I know with Ubuntu 1
[00:58] <bobweaver> sweet lets try this
[00:58] <bobweaver> open terminal
[00:58] <bobweaver> sudo -i
[00:59] <Fao1987> ok done
[00:59] <bobweaver> mount /dev/sda /mnt
[00:59] <bobweaver> NO
[00:59] <bobweaver> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[00:59] <bobweaver> PLEASE DO @ND COMMAND
[00:59] <bobweaver> ping Fao1987
[00:59] <bobweaver> 2nd command
[00:59] <bobweaver> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[01:00] <Fao1987> 2nd command meaning sda2?
[01:00] <bobweaver> yup
[01:00] <Fao1987> did that
[01:00] <bobweaver> now
[01:00] <bobweaver> cd /mnt/ && ls -al
[01:00] <bobweaver> paste please
[01:01] <Fao1987> done that
[01:01] <Fao1987> need to upload it?
[01:01] <bobweaver> what ?
[01:01] <bobweaver> I would like to see /mnt/
[01:01] <bobweaver> so in terminal
[01:01] <Fao1987> I just typed cd /mnt/ && ls -al
[01:01] <bobweaver> cd /mnt
[01:02] <bobweaver> oh Sweet
[01:02] <Fao1987> ok
[01:02] <bobweaver> could you ubuntu.paste.com PLZ
[01:03] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182171
[01:03] <bobweaver> Thanks !
[01:04] <Fao1987> no prob
[01:04] <bobweaver> I forgot you said that you want to shrink down what partition ?
[01:04] <Fao1987> D drive
[01:04] <bobweaver> sda2  or 3 ?
[01:04] <Fao1987> wait
[01:05] <Fao1987> sda 3
[01:05] <Fao1987> sda 2 has windows on it
[01:05] <bobweaver> cool
[01:05] <bobweaver> Yes
[01:05] <bobweaver> ok you have some choices to make now
[01:05] <bobweaver> 1 how to back up
[01:05] <Fao1987> ok shoot
[01:06] <bobweaver> online or wait
[01:06] <bobweaver> for dvd or what ever
[01:06] <bobweaver> now there are a couple of ways to do this with tar packages and what not
[01:07] <bobweaver> but easy way to do it is make image on windows
[01:07] <Fao1987> I would rather wait. My net upload speed is way too slow to upload 5 gigs of data
[01:07] <bobweaver> Good idea
[01:07] <bobweaver> now as far as sda3
[01:07] <bobweaver> there is hackintosh on there ?
[01:07] <bobweaver> lets take a look please
[01:07] <bobweaver> open terminal
[01:07] <Fao1987> no nothing. only songs and stuff
[01:07] <Fao1987> hackintosh is gone
[01:07] <bobweaver> umount /mnt
[01:08] <bobweaver> then
[01:08] <bobweaver> soryy
[01:08] <bobweaver> sudo -i
[01:08] <bobweaver> then
[01:08] <bobweaver> umount /mnt
[01:08] <bobweaver> then
[01:08] <Fao1987> and I already have made an image of windows but it does not include my other stuff
[01:08] <bobweaver> ahh
[01:08] <bobweaver> ok
[01:08] <bobweaver> open terminal
[01:09] <bobweaver> sudo -i
[01:09] <Fao1987> done sudo -i next?
[01:09] <bobweaver> umount /mnt
[01:09] <bobweaver> then
[01:09] <bobweaver> mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[01:09] <bobweaver> then
[01:09] <bobweaver> cd /mnt
[01:10] <bobweaver> tell us when you are there :>)
[01:10] <Fao1987> i'm there
[01:10] <bobweaver> ls
[01:10] <bobweaver> and paste.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182172
[01:11] <bobweaver> Thanks !
[01:13] <bobweaver> Sweet there is like nothing there
[01:13] <Fao1987> yup
[01:13] <bobweaver> this is the drive that you would like to shrink ?
[01:13] <Fao1987> I told you that when I removed hackintosh, I re partitioned whole drive
[01:13] <Fao1987> and yes this drive is the one
[01:14] <bobweaver> Great I just want to make sure. Don;t want to give out bad info :>)
[01:14] <bobweaver> Don't *
[01:14] <Fao1987> ya right right :)
[01:15] <bobweaver> ok Now you can shrink this partition down using Gparted
[01:15] <bobweaver> but you might want to back up first
[01:15] <Fao1987> ok
[01:15] <Fao1987> but thats the problem
[01:15] <bobweaver> Yes that is what you keep saying
[01:15] <Fao1987> I uploaded this image before http://imagebin.org/182168
[01:16] <Fao1987> gparted is not showing these partitions I currently have
[01:16] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  do you know how to use gparted ?
[01:16] <Fao1987> yes
[01:16] <Fao1987> of course
[01:16] <bobweaver> gparted dont lie :>)
[01:17] <bobweaver> so you can select and move bar to make smaller
[01:17] <Fao1987> ok ok. Now what am I supposed to do. Gparted is showing one drive as 139 gig and 325 gig
[01:17] <linuxnoob> how do i get the "other" secition to show up when i  finger a user ?
[01:17] <Fao1987> which one is D? The 200 gig partition?
[01:18] <bobweaver> well which one on windoz is it ?
[01:18] <bobweaver> windoz is C ?
[01:18] <Fao1987> no idea
[01:18] <bobweaver> the hackintosh was on D ?
[01:18] <Fao1987> yes windows is C. But Gparted is not showing C
[01:19] <Fao1987> When I installed Hackintosh it was on C
[01:19] <bobweaver> well we just mounted each partitions and looked to see what was in them
[01:19] <Fao1987> now C holds windows
[01:19] <holstein> Fao1987: in the upper right, you can select other drives
[01:19] <bobweaver> so in linux there is no c or d drive
[01:19] <holstein> not that you need to
[01:19] <holstein> yeah, C and D labels are for windows only
[01:19]  * holstein high-fives bobweaver
[01:20] <holstein> i like the way you do buisness man!
[01:20]  * bobweaver loves high 5's
[01:20] <Fao1987> I know that.
[01:20] <Fao1987> I know the difference between windows and linux
[01:20] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  cool
[01:20] <holstein> Fao1987: thats not a list of drives there
[01:20] <holstein> in gparted
[01:20] <holstein> thats the partitions on one drive
[01:20] <Fao1987> yes I know
[01:20] <holstein> i think that might be the confusion?
[01:20] <holstein> OK
[01:21] <holstein> Fao1987: whats the deal?
[01:21] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  so
[01:21] <Fao1987> Please wait
[01:21] <bobweaver> do you rember when we mounted each one ?
[01:21] <holstein> Fao1987: no hurry :)
[01:21] <holstein> you dont want to mess this up
[01:21] <holstein> you can save a lot of time right now
[01:22] <Fao1987> hear me out. My current partitions are 100mb, 65gb, 200gb, 200gb
[01:22] <Fao1987> ok?
[01:22] <holstein> sure
[01:22] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  Do you remember when we did fdisk -l   ?
[01:22] <Fao1987> now look at what g parted is saying
[01:22] <holstein> but, maybe you have tried a resize
[01:22] <holstein> or you had a failed rezise
[01:22] <holstein> you said you tried to resize in windows?
[01:23] <holstein> ive never seen that process
[01:23] <holstein> maybe that failed
[01:23] <bobweaver> holstein, _1
[01:23] <Fao1987> it is sayin that I have 200mb, 139gb, 128mb, 325gb
[01:23] <bobweaver> sorry +1
[01:23] <holstein> Fao1987: right
[01:23] <holstein> and thats what i would tend to expect that you have
[01:23] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  fdisk -l    dont lie never does
[01:24] <bobweaver> will even tell if something is funny
[01:24] <holstein> yeah, i have seen gparted spit out funny things
[01:24] <holstein> but not fdisk
[01:24] <Fao1987> ok
[01:24] <holstein> it'll say something is odd, and report the size
[01:24] <Fao1987> now when I try to install linux, it shows me what g parted is showing, and doesn't show what fdisk is showing. got it?
[01:25] <holstein> not really
[01:25] <Fao1987> how can I install linux and where?
[01:25] <holstein> are those not the same?
[01:25] <Fao1987> no no no
[01:25] <Fao1987> they are not
[01:25] <holstein> you guys just mounted, were those not in agreement?
[01:25] <Fao1987> thats why i'm here
[01:25] <holstein> hmmm
[01:25] <Fao1987> what is wrong with my partition tables
[01:25] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  windoz = sda1
[01:25] <Fao1987> in one os it is showing something and in the other its totally differenet
[01:25] <Fao1987> diffrerent
[01:26] <bobweaver> sda2 has this stuff on it  http://imagebin.org/182172
[01:26] <bobweaver> woops that is not right
[01:26] <bobweaver> lol
[01:26] <bobweaver> sda 2 = windoz
[01:26] <bobweaver> sda3 =- http://imagebin.org/182172
[01:27] <bobweaver> grab sda3 and shrink it down
[01:27] <bobweaver> with gparted
[01:27] <Fao1987> guys in both images of fdisk and gparted check out the size of sda1, 2, 3 and 4
[01:27] <Fao1987> maybe then you'll understand
[01:27] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  sda 1 is boot partion right now
[01:28] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182166
[01:28] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182168
[01:28] <holstein> yeah, i would shrink sda3
[01:28] <Fao1987> open both images please
[01:28] <bobweaver> sure
[01:28] <Fao1987> and check the size of partitions and compare
[01:28]  * bobweaver is now looking
[01:29] <holstein> yeah, but if you had a failed attempt in windows
[01:29] <holstein> or if something is half way broken
[01:29] <holstein> i dont know what has happened
[01:29] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  sda1 in gparted is that little green one :>) \
[01:29] <Fao1987> yes
[01:29] <bobweaver> all the way to the left
[01:29] <holstein> OH yeah
[01:29] <holstein> thats expected then
[01:29] <Fao1987> it is the green one all the way to the left
[01:30] <linuxnoob> how do i view the "other" section of a users information when I user "finger <username> " ?
[01:30] <bobweaver> that is sda 1 Fao1987
[01:30] <holstein> linuxnoob: what information are you looking for?
[01:30] <Fao1987> it is supposed to be 100 mb, but g parted says it is 200 mb
[01:30] <Fao1987> now check sda2
[01:30] <holstein> other doesnt mean anything to me, pardon my ignorance linuxnoob
[01:31] <Fao1987> it is supposed to be 65Gb but gparted says it 139GB
[01:31] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  sda2 has windoz on it :>)
[01:32] <Fao1987> then check sda3 it is supposed to be 200GB but gparted is saying it is 128mb
[01:32] <holstein> i would tend to believe gparted
[01:32] <bobweaver> no it says that sda 3 is 200971458 gig
[01:32] <linuxnoob> when i created the user   using "adduser" you can add "full name" , "room number", "work phone", "home phone"  and "other"      when i finger the user    it does not show the info i put in for "other
[01:32] <holstein> im not saying you are lying, im just saying, some odd things are happening on that drive
[01:33] <bobweaver> not gig lol BIG*
[01:33] <Fao1987> finally sda4 is supposed to be 200 GB as well but noooooooo, gparted says it is 325 gig
[01:33] <bobweaver> sda4 is 200 gig
[01:33] <Fao1987> yes this is indeed very odd and thats why i'm unable to install linux
[01:33] <holstein> Fao1987: i would resize
[01:34] <holstein> and install
[01:34] <bobweaver> holstein,  me too
[01:34] <Fao1987> I did resize and created free space, you wanna guess what happened?
[01:34] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  lets see what is in sda4
[01:34] <bobweaver> open terminal
[01:34] <bobweaver> umount /mnt
[01:34] <Fao1987> its just games
[01:34] <bobweaver> ok
[01:35] <bobweaver> then
[01:35] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  we have gone into each drive and seen what is in there
[01:35] <bobweaver> we mounted them do you remem,ber ?
[01:36] <Fao1987> I resized and created free space. But when ubuntu installation came up, it showed 200mb, 139gb, 128mb, 325gb and no free space
[01:36] <bobweaver> that is ok
[01:36] <bobweaver> do the install next to other os options
[01:36] <Fao1987> when I boot back to windows, it says 65gb, 150gb, 50gb free space and 200gb
[01:37]  * bobweaver knows nothing about windoz
[01:37] <Fao1987> knowledge of windows is not the point. One partition table is gpt and one is mbr
[01:38] <holstein> why though?
[01:38] <holstein> why gpt?
[01:38] <Fao1987> what I don't get how they happen to be existing at the same time?
[01:38] <holstein> hackintosh?
[01:38] <Fao1987> yes when i installed hackintosh it was gpt
[01:38] <holstein> if those were my drives, and i had the data backed up, i would wipe
[01:38] <holstein> and rebuild from scratch
[01:38] <holstein> BUT, before that
[01:38] <holstein> i would just try and resize that partition
[01:39] <holstein> or change the partition table type
[01:39] <Fao1987> resizing didn't work
[01:39] <Fao1987> how would I change partition table type?
[01:39] <holstein> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc737510(WS.10).aspx
[01:39] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  df -h
[01:39] <holstein> thats just the first think that came up for me  ^^
[01:39] <bobweaver> and also
[01:39] <bobweaver> free -m
[01:40] <Fao1987> I don't have another pc.
[01:40] <Fao1987> so in other words I should backup
[01:40] <Fao1987> wipe entire drive and start over
[01:40] <Fao1987> ??
[01:40] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  so could we please see the command
[01:41] <bobweaver> thanks
[01:41] <Fao1987> which one bobweaver?
[01:41] <bobweaver> both
[01:41] <bobweaver> df -h
[01:41] <bobweaver> free -m
[01:41] <bobweaver> thanks
[01:42] <Fao1987> http://imagebin.org/182182
[01:42] <Fao1987> here you go
[01:42] <holstein> Fao1987: im saying, you should be prepared for that just incase
[01:42] <holstein> messing with partition tables and resizing is *not* trivial
[01:43] <holstein> and i wish you had really wiped that drive in the middle
[01:43] <holstein> but, you can probably sort it out
[01:44] <Fao1987> holstein i'm thinking wipe
[01:44] <bobweaver> Awesome and one more time you want to shrink sda3 right
[01:44] <Fao1987> how can I ensure this doesn't happen again
[01:44] <Fao1987> ?
[01:44] <Fao1987> yes sda3
[01:44] <bobweaver> ok
[01:45] <bobweaver> listen real close
[01:45] <Fao1987> i'm all ears
[01:45] <bobweaver> open terminal
[01:45] <Fao1987> open
[01:45] <bobweaver> umount /mnt
[01:45] <holstein> before the wipe, just try to shrink it
[01:46] <holstein> try changing the partion table
[01:46] <holstein> and do what bobweaver is suggeting now first as well
[01:46] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  you might need sudo -i
[01:46] <bobweaver> 1st
[01:46] <Fao1987> i did sudo -i after that?
[01:46] <Fao1987> ok holstein
[01:46] <bobweaver> umount /mnt
[01:47] <Fao1987> done
[01:47] <bobweaver> fsck -n /dev/sda3
[01:47] <bobweaver> error ?
[01:48] <bobweaver> please show us out put
[01:48] <Fao1987> yes
[01:48] <Fao1987> error 2
[01:48] <bobweaver> ok
[01:49] <Fao1987> fsck from util-linux 2.19.1
[01:49] <Fao1987> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[01:49] <Fao1987> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda3
[01:49] <bobweaver>  ntfs      arghhh
[01:49] <Fao1987> got this
[01:49] <bobweaver> fdisk -s /dev/sda3
[01:50] <Fao1987> its windows :)
[01:50]  * bobweaver dosent want to talk about doz
[01:50] <bobweaver> fdisk -s /dev/sda3
[01:50] <bobweaver> any errors ?
[01:50] <Fao1987> got this
[01:50] <Fao1987> 209714558
[01:50] <bobweaver> good
[01:51] <bobweaver> fsck -n /dev/sda3
[01:51] <Fao1987> it got the same error as before
[01:53] <Fao1987> so holstein you saying I should delete all partitions and convert gpt to mbr?
[01:53] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  I m googleing
[01:54] <Fao1987> ok
[01:54] <holstein> Fao1987: i would try converting, and resizing before wiping
[01:54] <CrOnOs2000> Fao1987, if your ntfs is having problems sometimes is faster to run the standar windows tool to check it, usb windows portable is not hard to find on the web
[01:54] <holstein> cant hurt
[01:55] <CrOnOs2000> im not shure thats your problem im just get in a few minutes
[01:55] <Fao1987> ok holstein but the microsoft page you referred says that i'll have to delete the volumes before converting.
[01:56] <Fao1987> cronos2000 i'll check it but i'm not sure something is wrong with the file system
[01:56] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  there is a master boot record that comes with ntfs
[01:56] <Fao1987> if something is wrong, its the partition table
[01:56] <bobweaver> you do not want to delete that
[01:56] <Fao1987> ok
[01:57] <holstein> Fao1987: maybe
[01:57] <bobweaver> Fao1987,  do you know what teamviewer is ?
[01:57] <holstein> thast literally the first thing that came up in google
[01:57] <holstein> its more of a suggestion :)
[01:57] <holstein> mabye theres a non destructive tool
[01:57] <holstein> i havent had to do it though
[01:57] <Fao1987> teamviewer is a desktop sharing software or something??
[01:58] <bobweaver> yes allows other to access your computer
[01:58] <Fao1987> i'm hoping for non destructive too but.......
[01:58] <Fao1987> isn't it supposed to be on win?
[01:59] <bobweaver> if you like I could remote in and fix ?
[01:59] <Fao1987> without backup, nope
[01:59] <bobweaver> ok then
[01:59] <Fao1987> I asked a friend of mine.
[02:00] <bobweaver> this is what needs to happen 1st you have to shrink down sda3
[02:00] <Fao1987> he says my best option is to use the clean all command in dos diskpart utility
[02:00] <bobweaver> you might have to mount it
[02:00] <Fao1987> ok
[02:00] <bobweaver> so
[02:00] <bobweaver> sudo -i
[02:00] <bobweaver> then
[02:00] <bobweaver> mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[02:01] <bobweaver> then
[02:01] <bobweaver> cd /mnt
[02:01] <bobweaver> then try
[02:01] <bobweaver> chroot /mnt
[02:02] <Fao1987> should I do chroot now?
[02:02] <bobweaver> did you do the other commands first
[02:02] <Fao1987> yes
[02:02] <bobweaver> then Yes
[02:02] <bobweaver> error  ?
[02:03] <bobweaver> or are you now on your D drive ?
[02:03] <Fao1987> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[02:04] <bobweaver> apt-get install chroot
[02:04] <bobweaver> apt-get -y install chroot
[02:04] <bobweaver> is it installing ?
[02:04] <Fao1987> no. unable to locate package
[02:05] <Fao1987> guys i'm gonna have to logout now
[02:05] <bobweaver>  cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:05] <bobweaver> ok cya back up back up back up
[02:05] <Fao1987> thanks and after that?
[02:06] <bobweaver> wipe sda3 make to ext3 and install
[02:06] <bobweaver> to sda3
[02:06] <bobweaver> after back up
[02:06] <Fao1987> ok thanks bobweaver
[02:06] <Fao1987> got it
[02:06] <bobweaver> holstein,  you where right the whole time :>)
[02:06] <bobweaver> wipe and re-install
[02:07] <bobweaver> or install
[02:07] <bobweaver> I should say
[02:07] <Fao1987> bobweaver what would be the best way to wipe?
[02:07] <Fao1987> everything?
[02:07] <philipballew> bobweaver, is the man
[02:07]  * philipballew high fives bobweaver
[02:07] <bobweaver> just instal over it all like holstein  said
[02:08]  * bobweaver hi 5s back
[02:08] <holstein> i would load up a live CD with gparted and nuke it Fao1987
[02:08] <Fao1987> thanks
[02:08] <holstein> it'll feel great :)
[02:08] <Fao1987> ya definitely
[02:08] <Fao1987> its been a headache :)
[02:08] <bobweaver> like I said I know nothing about doz and a little about *nix
[02:08] <holstein> friends dont let friends hackintosh :/
[02:09] <bobweaver> headache this is fun for me :>)
[02:09] <Fao1987> thanks again. logging out. bye
[02:09] <bobweaver> lol holstein
[02:12] <bobweaver> so I was wondering how to become more active in the ubuntu community
[02:12] <philipballew> bobweaver, I can help
[02:12] <philipballew> What exactly did you have in mind?
[02:13] <bobweaver> some thing to help others thta I can put on my resume
[02:13] <holstein> bobweaver: ubuntustudio is always looking for helper
[02:13] <holstein> coding help
[02:13] <bobweaver> holstein,  you are part of that project ?
[02:13] <holstein> we'll *all* write you glowing revues anywhere :)
[02:13] <holstein> bobweaver: yup
[02:14] <bobweaver> cool
[02:14] <holstein> if you are interested... #ubuntustudio-devel
[02:14] <bobweaver> sure
[02:15] <bobweaver> #ubuntustudio-devel
[02:15] <holstein> ALSO, on an easier note, the #ubuntu-news team
[02:15] <urlin2u> holstein, hey things going good?
[02:15] <holstein> urlin2u: :)
[02:15] <holstein> not bad and you?
[02:15] <urlin2u> holstein, yeah just chillin.:D
[02:16] <holstein> good to see you
[02:16] <urlin2u> holstein, same here, Peter Erskine is playing locally tomorrow, I don't have the cash, oh well.
[02:16] <holstein> w0w
[02:17] <holstein> meet em' backstage... they'll let you in :)
[02:18] <urlin2u> holstein, thats a good idea it is at a club I have never been to. http://www.jimmymaks.com/calendar.html I guess it is friday night not tomorrow
[07:30] <Chacious> s identify VeRoNiCa
[07:35] <Chacious> so how does everyone like ubuntu 11.1
[07:39]  * nlsthzn likes it
[07:40] <Chacious> i do as well
[07:41] <Chacious> i used to dual boot linux and windows but now i got a new laptop i set my old laptop to be my linux box
[16:25] <raubvogel> why do you need to have /boot rw for grub2 to work correctly?
[18:10] <bobweaver> any one around  ?
[18:10] <bobweaver> I am trying to make heads or tails of this http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/today/
[18:10] <bobweaver> Curacao 3Curacao 4Curacao 6Curacao 7Curacao 8Grand Sierra F     <--- I take it these are rooms ?
[18:12] <nlsthzn_> bobweaver: AFAIK your right... and there is an audio stream per room as well as an IRC channel for each room too...
[18:12] <bobweaver> Sweet that is what I wanted to hear !!
[18:12] <bobweaver> that tables is cnfusing ..
[18:13] <bobweaver> confusing *
[18:13] <bobweaver> the time charts
[18:13] <bobweaver> I dont understand them
[18:16] <nlsthzn_> Yes... they aren't that great :) (But you will figure it out :D)
[18:22] <bobweaver> ok I figured it out :>)
[18:22] <bobweaver> now too look for streams
[18:23] <bobweaver> nlsthzn,  any clue ?
[18:24] <duanedesign> bobweaver: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/status.xsl
[18:24] <duanedesign> audio feeds from UDS^
[18:25] <bobweaver> duanedesign, !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sweet  !!!!!!!
[18:26] <bobweaver> I swear my questions are always anwsered fast ans good at  ubuntu beginners team
[18:29] <duanedesign> :)
[18:29] <nlsthzn_> bobweaver: cool, glad you got the links...
[18:29] <bobweaver> http://video.ubuntu.com/live/      <--live ??
[18:29] <duanedesign> http://video.ubuntu.com/live/
[18:29] <duanedesign> ;)
[18:29] <bobweaver> lol
[18:29] <duanedesign> we thought of the same thing
[18:30] <bobweaver> I am also installinf miro right now
[18:30] <duanedesign> bobweaver: i am in the bottom left
[18:30] <bobweaver> yawn
[18:31] <bobweaver> duanedesign,  LUCKY !!
[18:32] <nlsthzn_> cool... UDS seems awesome
[18:32] <bobweaver> My video game
[18:32] <eyadof> hi everyone , i want to ask if there is a way to get remot access to ubuntu terminal ?
[18:32] <bobweaver> bankski pictures
[18:32] <bobweaver> eyadof,  sure there is
[18:32] <eyadof> i know that
[18:33] <eyadof> but the problem
[18:33] <eyadof> the server is get stack
[18:33] <eyadof> and i want to make a restart to it
[18:33] <eyadof> so
[18:33] <bobweaver> wake on lan ?
[18:34] <bobweaver> or ssh
[18:34] <eyadof> mm
[18:34] <bobweaver> ssh  <username>@<ipdress >
[18:34] <eyadof> can i do reboot
[18:35] <eyadof> from it
[18:35] <bobweaver> sure
[18:35] <eyadof> good
[18:35] <eyadof> iwill try it
[18:35] <bobweaver> at that popint it is a sudo reboot away
[18:35] <eyadof> thanks alot
[18:35] <bobweaver> np
[18:36] <bobweaver> you might have to install openssh
[18:36]  * nlsthzn_ just set up his first ever "server" and everything on it I am doing via ssh thanks to bodhi_zazen :)
[18:36] <bobweaver> that is because bodhi_zazen  ROCKS !!
[18:37] <bobweaver> wow this is a good question
[18:37] <bobweaver> about the wireless
[18:37] <bobweaver> http://video.ubuntu.com/live/
[18:38] <nlsthzn_> bobweaver: you should join in on the discussion via IRC (I think you can)
[18:38] <bobweaver> I am the only one on the channel
[18:38] <bobweaver> :>)
[18:38] <bobweaver> uds ?
[18:39] <nlsthzn_> no, each room has a channel... duanedesign ?! Channel per session right?
[18:39] <duanedesign> nlsthzn_: awesome
[18:39] <duanedesign> nlsthzn_: yes
[18:39] <bobweaver> cool
[18:39] <nlsthzn_> bobweaver: I think they are the same as the room names... not sure :/
[18:39] <duanedesign> nlsthzn_: i was saying 'awesome' in regards to your VPS
[18:40] <nlsthzn_> duanedesign: slowly I learn :)
[18:41] <duanedesign> nlsthzn_: bodhi set me up a VPS a couple years ago and I have learned a lot on it
[18:41] <nlsthzn_> duanedesign: he offered me too... but I have been cutting my teeth on my own server via VBox... soon I will be ready (I hope)
[18:44] <bobweaver> lol no one is on that channel maybe I am typing wrong     #grandserriad
[18:45] <bobweaver> nlsthzn,  web server ssh mail ?
[18:46] <nlsthzn_> just wordpress at the moment (but I am using ssh for setting up everything)
[18:46] <bobweaver> cool
[18:46] <nlsthzn_> I finally got wordpress installed and working this morning :)
[18:47] <bobweaver> I have a webserver that has ipconfig  on it
[18:47] <bobweaver> is that what you use ?
[18:47] <bobweaver> gnupannel ?
[18:47] <bobweaver> zpannel ?
[18:47] <nlsthzn_> bobweaver: not as far as I know...
[18:47]  * nlsthzn_ is a noob
[18:48] <nlsthzn_> not knowing much about anything
[18:48] <bobweaver> nlsthzn,  so am I
[18:48] <bobweaver> I just set up my firewall box (ip-cop w/snort and open vas )
[18:49]  * bobweaver likes ipcop alot
[18:49] <nlsthzn_> I installed ubuntu server with only openssh... then installed apache and php and mysql things needed for wordpress and now lastly wordpress... that is it at the moment...
[18:50] <bobweaver> cool   this is one of your own boxs ?
[18:50] <bobweaver> or like host gator >?
[18:52] <nlsthzn_> I am hosting it in VBox on my laptop which I also use as the client... so I am SSH'ing from the laptop into the laptop :p
[18:53] <bobweaver> cO_o|
[18:55] <bobweaver> That is so co_Ol   I REALLY like the idea of a ubuntu-beginners classroom
[18:55] <nlsthzn_> Nice way to learn... I have access to the server directly, I save snapshots of it in stable conditions and if I mess up I just revert...
[18:56] <bodhi_zazen> nlsthzn_: I thought your wordpress install was going well
[18:56] <nlsthzn_> it is...
[18:56] <bobweaver> nlsthzn,  yes that is a nice thing about VBOX
[18:57] <nlsthzn_> still up and running... first blog is working :)
[18:57] <bobweaver> bodhi_zazen,  as far as the classroom could we use lerind ?
[18:57] <bodhi_zazen> what bobweaver ?
[18:57] <bobweaver> I read that ubuntu beginners might start a classroom is this wrong ?
[18:57] <nlsthzn_> blog isn't online yet but working on my lan :)
[18:58] <bodhi_zazen> The problem is those snapshots will take up a lot of space, and they grow in size over time
[18:58] <bodhi_zazen> we are planning / wanting to contribute to classroom
[18:58] <nlsthzn_> bodhi_zazen: this just for my learning... one day I will not need training wheels :p
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> I understand nlsthzn_ , server side ...
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> 1. Always back up system config files before you edit them.
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> I personally shadow them in /root/etc
[19:00] <bodhi_zazen> I always keep the original and a working version in /root
[19:00] <bodhi_zazen> When you edit a config file, always add comments on what you edited and why
[19:00] <bodhi_zazen> Then if you break something you can easily revert
[19:01] <nlsthzn_> bodhi_zazen: makes sense... (the back-ups and comments... the bit about shadowing I have no idea)
[19:02] <bobweaver> bodhi_zazen,  is this something that cde might help with ?>
[19:03] <bobweaver> bodhi_zazen,  I also have questions about live-deb if you have a second
[19:04] <bobweaver> hey you move the camara to a different room !!  :>)
[19:06] <bobweaver> lb config      <-- this makes  config and auto dir       is this a clone of my system >?     if it is not I would like to know how to do that.   by changing    it to       lb config   -p lxde -mode ubuntu     ?????
[19:07] <Lorizean> hey, can somebody help me with my external hard drive? I'm connecting it via firewire but it doesn't get recognized :(
[19:07] <bobweaver> or do I make it lb config   options    then mv into the auto/config    and start to add packages there ?
[19:07] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  sure
[19:08] <Lorizean> cool - any diagnostics you want me to run or something?
[19:08] <bobweaver> unplug it and plug back in then open terminal and do a dmesg | tail
[19:08] <bobweaver> !pastebin | Lorizean
[19:08] <ubot2> Lorizean: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[19:09] <Lorizean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727515/
[19:09] <bobweaver> Please could we also see a :    lsusb
[19:09] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  Sweet
[19:09] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  also a             df -h
[19:09] <Lorizean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727516/
[19:10] <Lorizean> ^ lsusb
[19:10] <bobweaver> and one more        sudo  fdisk -l
[19:10] <Lorizean> and the df -h: http://paste.ubuntu.com/727517/
[19:11] <Lorizean> fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/727518/
[19:11] <bobweaver> Sweet Lorizean  you rock  lets take care of this
[19:11] <Lorizean> yay :)
[19:12] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  I take it that this is the one ?     /dev/sdc1             1.4T  1.3T   75G  95% /media/Rin I-M
[19:12] <bobweaver> 1.5 tb big  ?
[19:12] <Lorizean> ah, no, thats a usb drive i already got connected
[19:12] <bobweaver> ahh
[19:12] <Lorizean> it should be "Asuka"
[19:12] <Lorizean> like 300gigs big
[19:13] <Lorizean> Tessa N-Z also works, USB too
[19:14] <bobweaver> [ 2492.796405] firewire_core: skipped bus generations, destroying all nodes      <-- from dmesg | tail /me dont like that
[19:14] <bobweaver> lets try this
[19:14] <Lorizean> hm, doesn't sound good - any ideas how to fix it?
[19:14] <bobweaver> cd /dev
[19:14] <Lorizean> i'm there
[19:14] <bobweaver> ls | awk '/fw1/'
[19:14] <bobweaver> or
[19:15] <bobweaver> ls | grep fw1
[19:15] <bobweaver> is it there
[19:15] <bobweaver> ?>
[19:15] <Lorizean> first gives me fw0 and fw1
[19:15] <bobweaver> COOL
[19:15] <bobweaver> sudo mount /dev/fw1 /mnt
[19:15] <bobweaver> cd /mnt
[19:16] <bobweaver> ls -al
[19:16] <Lorizean> mount: /dev/fw1 is not a block device
[19:16] <Lorizean> derp
[19:16] <bobweaver> ohh
[19:16] <bobweaver> hmm
[19:16] <Lorizean> hm
[19:16] <Lorizean> whats the fw0 one, can i mount that?
[19:17] <bobweaver> well
[19:17] <bobweaver> lets look at this
[19:18] <bobweaver> in dmesg | tail      <-- this tells us   what the kernel sees      tail is just the tail end   of it    we could use "head" which will only show uss the start but we want the end of it or TAIL
[19:19] <bobweaver> if we look at this we can see that the kernel is calling   fw1 or   firewire #1
[19:19] <Lorizean> yeah
[19:19]  * bobweaver goes to get coffee
[19:20] <bobweaver> ok back
[19:20] <Lorizean> wb
[19:20] <bobweaver> now it is not leting us mount it
[19:20] <bobweaver> so lets look at that
[19:20] <bobweaver> maybe there is some crazy firmware
[19:21] <Lorizean> possibly :)
[19:22] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  how big is the harddrive that is in there ?
[19:22] <Lorizean> ~300GB
[19:23] <bobweaver> and you do not see the device under lsusb ?
[19:23]  * bobweaver is not that good with fireware
[19:23]  * bobweaver is not that good with firewie
[19:23] <bobweaver> arghhh or spelling
[19:23] <Lorizean> :D
[19:23] <Lorizean> hm, no, its not there
[19:23] <bioterror> hope you will be better with thunderbolt then ;)
[19:23] <bobweaver> lol
[19:23] <bobweaver> ok
[19:24] <bobweaver> what is model and name ? of harddrive   masscool >?
[19:24] <Lorizean> maxtor... something
[19:25] <Lorizean> maxtor OneTouch
[19:25] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  could you do a google search for it and maybe look under shoping
[19:25] <bobweaver> NM
[19:25] <bobweaver> good job !
[19:26] <Lorizean> i'm not sure if its the only onetouch, i'll try and find out exactly
[19:26] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  open gparted please
[19:26] <bioterror> Lorizean, what kind of filesytem is on that firewire drive?
[19:26] <Lorizean> NTFS
[19:26] <bobweaver> bioterror,  Good question
[19:27] <Lorizean> gotta install gparted first
[19:27] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  do you see it in gparted ?
[19:27] <bobweaver> oh cool install
[19:28] <Lorizean> nope, not there
[19:28] <bobweaver> :>(
[19:28] <bobweaver> sudo mkdir /mnt/external
[19:29] <Lorizean> done
[19:30] <bobweaver> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/fw1 /mnt/external -o force
[19:30] <bobweaver> did it mount ?
[19:31] <Lorizean> Error reading bootsector: Illegal seek
[19:31] <Lorizean> Failed to sync device /dev/fw1: Invalid argument
[19:31] <Lorizean> Failed to mount '/dev/fw1': Illegal seek
[19:31] <bobweaver> arghhh
[19:31] <bobweaver> is there a power thing like usb or pl;ug in ?
[19:31] <bobweaver> plug *
[19:32] <Lorizean> hm? what do you mean?
[19:33] <bobweaver> some times they have power things
[19:33] <Lorizean> on the hard drive or on the pc?
[19:34] <bobweaver> but if 5the only thing that you can plug into the ex-HD  is the firewire?
[19:34] <Lorizean> well, either way, i don't think so - it was working just like that when booting in windows
[19:34] <Lorizean> ah, sry, no, it has usb too
[19:34] <Lorizean> and a power plug
[19:34] <bobweaver> can we try with a usb plz
[19:34] <bobweaver> also could we see    dmesg | tail -f /var/log/messages
[19:35] <Lorizean> sure, gotta make room first - only reason i'm trying to get it running with firewire is lack of usb ports :)
[19:35] <bobweaver> ahh I see
[19:36]  * bobweaver  More Coffee !!
[19:37] <bobweaver> lets also remove that dir that we mad
[19:37] <bobweaver> made *
[19:37] <Lorizean> the external dir
[19:37] <Lorizean> ?
[19:37] <Lorizean> kk
[19:37] <Lorizean> it works with usb btw
[19:38] <Lorizean> tail: cannot open `/var/log/messages' for reading: No such file or directory
[19:38] <bobweaver> sudo rm -r /mnt/external
[19:38] <Lorizean> for the dmesg | tail -f /var/log/messages
[19:38] <Lorizean> ah, yeah, done that
[19:39] <bobweaver> cool
[19:39] <bobweaver> and usb works you say ?
[19:39] <Lorizean> yep
[19:39] <bobweaver> firmware
[19:39] <bobweaver> I bet
[19:39] <Lorizean> for the fw port?
[19:40] <bobweaver>  lsb_release -a && uname -a
[19:41] <Lorizean> No LSB modules are available.
[19:42] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  there should be alot more
[19:42] <Lorizean> ah, my ubuntu version and stuff
[19:43] <Lorizean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727538/
[19:43] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727537/
[19:43] <bobweaver> cool
[19:43] <bobweaver> do you have medibuntu installed ?
[19:43] <Lorizean> nope
[19:44] <bobweaver> sudo -E wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[19:45] <Lorizean> i think it did it
[19:45] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu
[19:45] <bobweaver> then
[19:45] <Lorizean> yep, it's taking a while
[19:45] <Lorizean> ah, done
[19:46] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:47] <Lorizean> gonna take a while, dling 94MB
[19:47] <bobweaver> yes that is alot of firmware and stuff ..
[19:47] <Lorizean> :)
[19:48]  * bobweaver loves him some coffee
[19:48] <bobweaver> zing zing
[19:48] <bobweaver> Hi gigastress
[19:48] <Lorizean> thats it, getting some coffee myself :D
[19:49] <bobweaver> and welcome to ubuntu-beginners
[19:51] <gigastress> hi bob
[19:51] <bobweaver> hi gigastress  thanks for chating on this channel !
[19:51] <gigastress> why here?
[19:51] <Lorizean> bobweaver, done, got all of it
[19:52] <bobweaver> the last I remeber we where trying to get the lvm2 and cryptsetup going right
[19:52] <Lorizean> should i try firewire again?
[19:52] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  please reboot and try firewire
[19:52] <Lorizean> ok, brb
[19:53] <bobweaver> gigastress,  there could be others here on this channel that could seee something that I am not that is why I asked you to join this channel and not go private
[19:53] <bobweaver> gigastress,  you have the live cd loaded ?
[19:53] <gigastress> yah that worked
[19:54] <gigastress> i did and mounted the lvm
[19:54] <bobweaver> sweet
[19:54] <gigastress> now i think ftsab and the grub and other files should be edited so i can mount from it
[19:54] <bobweaver> yes
[19:55] <gigastress> the mointing promting screen shos a uuid that is not in fstab
[19:55] <gigastress> so wondered where to edit sth.
[19:55] <gigastress> i remevber that 5 files or so should be changed
[19:56] <Lorizean> hey, still not working :(
[19:57] <bobweaver> gigastress,  I am look9ing for a good cheat sheet
[19:57] <gigastress> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=4
[19:58] <gigastress> this is the one u gave me last time to mount the hd
[19:58] <bobweaver> Hey that one is great
[19:58] <bobweaver> and you used this one gigastress  ?
[19:58] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  I am sorry to hear that
[19:58] <gigastress> i worked out well, bob
[19:59] <bobweaver> gigastress,  what are you trying to do noe ?
[19:59] <bobweaver> now *
[19:59] <gigastress> i think ftsab and the grub and other files should be edited so i can mount from it
[19:59] <Lorizean> hm, any other ideas? maybe i'll just have to use USB and swap hard-drives around
[19:59] <gigastress> i remevber that about 5 files or so should be changed
[20:00] <gigastress> but cant find it anymore
[20:00] <gigastress> maybe there is a way to get that system boot again
[20:00] <bobweaver> sure
[20:01] <bobweaver> you are mounted right
[20:01] <gigastress> the release notes siad that
[20:01] <bobweaver> lets cd /mnt && ls
[20:01] <bobweaver> !pastebin | gigastress
[20:01] <ubot2> gigastress: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[20:02] <gigastress> ill post it there
[20:02] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  google firewaire fimware for that model plz
[20:02] <Lorizean> on it
[20:03] <gigastress> LVM filesystems should be listed in /etc/fstab by name  In general, filesystems are listed in /etc/fstab by UUID rather than by device name, to ensure that the filesystem can always be found reliably. If you are mounting a filesystem located on LVM, however, it is recommended that you list them in /etc/fstab by device name, not by UUID, because UUIDs are not unique if LVM snapshots are used, which can result in wrong file
[20:03] <gigastress> thats what the 10.4 release notes say.
[20:03] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  lspci -nn    <-- sees it ?
[20:04] <gigastress> i should have done this before the upgrade, i think not afterwards
[20:04] <bobweaver> hindsite is 20 20
[20:04] <Lorizean> 0c:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments TSB82AA2 IEEE-1394b Link Layer Controller [104c:8025] (rev 02)
[20:04] <Lorizean> i think thats it?
[20:05] <bobweaver> gigastress,  I see why it wants names and not uuid
[20:06] <gigastress> yah, they must have changed something
[20:06] <bobweaver> gigastress,  are you on live cd  ?
[20:07] <gigastress> at startup, the screen is prompting me for for a uuid
[20:07] <gigastress> yes
[20:07] <bobweaver> and you have the sdawhatever mounted in mnt ?
[20:07] <bobweaver> please cd /mnt
[20:07] <gigastress> let me see
[20:08]  * bobweaver is all jacked up on coffee
[20:08] <bobweaver> :>)
[20:08] <gigastress> did that
[20:08] <bobweaver> cool
[20:08] <Chacious> how is everyone doing in #ubuntu-beginners
[20:08] <philipballew> amazing
[20:08] <bobweaver> may I see  please      :            ls-al /mnt
[20:09] <bobweaver> like tony the tiger Chacious
[20:09] <bobweaver> IMMMM Great !
[20:09] <Chacious> good to hear :)
[20:09] <Chacious> im doing good
[20:09] <gigastress> No command 'ls-al' found, did you mean:  Command 'lshal' from package 'hal' (main) ls-al: command not found
[20:10] <Chacious> my friend will be here in a few minutes and i just got done preppnig some steak fajita ingrediants
[20:10] <bobweaver> ls<space>-al
[20:10] <bobweaver> Chacious,  Yum I mean apt
[20:11] <gigastress> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt$ ls -al total 0 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   3 2010-04-23 10:11 . drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 340 2011-11-03 18:26 ..
[20:11] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  when you get a chance please pastebin lspci -nn ]
[20:12] <bobweaver> gigastress,  sudo fdisk -l
[20:12] <bobweaver> !pastebin | gigastress
[20:12] <ubot2> gigastress: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[20:12] <bobweaver> gigastress,  thansk
[20:12] <bobweaver> thanks *
[20:12] <Lorizean> ah, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/727567/
[20:13]  * nlsthzn_ is @ work so is missing out on how amazing bobweaver is being at the moment...
[20:13] <bobweaver> thanks Lorizean  && nlsthzn
[20:13]  * bobweaver high fives nlsthzn
[20:14] <gigastress> bobweaver, http://paste.ubuntu.com/727569/
[20:14] <bobweaver> gigastress,  thanbsk \
[20:15] <bobweaver> gigastress,  sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:15] <bobweaver> then
[20:15] <bobweaver> gigastress,  cd / mnt
[20:15] <bobweaver> then
[20:15] <bobweaver> gigastress,  ls -al
[20:15] <bobweaver> and paste please :>)
[20:15] <gigastress> total 0 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   3 2010-04-23 10:11 . drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 340 2011-11-03 18:26 ..
[20:16] <bobweaver> dang it
[20:16] <bobweaver> umm .. what is sda with lvm ?
[20:16] <gigastress> sda2
[20:16] <gigastress> sda1 is boot ithink
[20:16] <bobweaver> and you just mounted it
[20:17] <gigastress> exactly
[20:17] <gigastress> with the cheatsheet
[20:17] <gigastress> sda2 should include swap as well
[20:17] <bobweaver> yes I was just looking @ that
[20:17] <gigastress> i can open fstab and everything
[20:18] <bobweaver> really
[20:19] <gigastress> yupp
[20:19] <bobweaver> cat /ect/fstab      <-- paste plz
[20:19] <gigastress> "just" need to edit the files right to munt from it in future
[20:19] <bobweaver> gigastress,  AWESOME
[20:20] <gigastress> bobweaver, are u ironic?
[20:20] <gigastress> aufs / aufs rw 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[20:20] <gigastress> but i think thats the fstab of the live cd?
[20:21] <bobweaver> yes it looks that way
[20:21] <bobweaver> chroot into the sda2
[20:21] <gigastress> im gonna paste the other fstab?
[20:22] <bobweaver> cool
[20:24] <gigastress> bobweaver, startup showing a uuid not listed here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/727577/
[20:26] <Lorizean> got a quick in-between question, where is my sound device in ubuntu? I need to set it in Teamspeak
[20:26] <bobweaver> this is after a chroot  ?
[20:27] <gigastress> bobweaver, i dont know what that is
[20:27] <bobweaver> ohh ok :>) gigastress
[20:28] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 03)
[20:28] <bobweaver> that is your audio
[20:29] <bobweaver> now check to see where it is mounted with    dmegs | grep mic
[20:29] <Lorizean> thanks
[20:29] <bobweaver> gigastress,  chroot is used to trick the haeddrive into thinking that it is the one that is beeing used
[20:30] <gigastress> ok
[20:30] <gigastress> dmegs doesnt work
[20:30] <bobweaver> gigastress,  say I did    mount /dev/sda1  /mnt      I would then    cd /mnt   then  chroot /mnt
[20:31] <gigastress> ok wait
[20:32] <bobweaver> gigastress,  cd /media/root
[20:32] <bobweaver> ls -al
[20:33] <gigastress> ok
[20:33] <gigastress> paste?
[20:33] <bobweaver> please
[20:33] <Lorizean> bob, i'm not finding my audio device with dmesg | grep mic :(
[20:34] <Lorizean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727587/
[20:34] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  you can also use lspci -nnk | grep 8086
[20:34] <gigastress> bobweaver, http://paste.ubuntu.com/727588/
[20:34] <bobweaver> that will show driuver I hope
[20:35] <bobweaver> gigastress, \0/
[20:35] <bobweaver> chroot /media/root
[20:35] <bobweaver> gigastress,  errors at all ?
[20:35] <gigastress> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/root$ chroot /media/root chroot: cannot change root directory to /media/root: Operation not permitted
[20:36] <bobweaver> ohh
[20:36] <gigastress> bobweaver, i think i did this befere?
[20:36] <bobweaver> sudo -i    1st
[20:36] <Lorizean> that doesn't tell me where it's mounted, does it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/727589/
[20:36] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  try this      dmesg | less                   then                                 /mic
[20:37] <gigastress> bobweaver, ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/root$ sudo -i root@ubuntu:~# chroot /media/root root@ubuntu:/#
[20:37] <gigastress> no errors i guess, bobweaver
[20:37] <bobweaver> gigastress,  C00l     now     cd  etc/fstab
[20:38] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:/# cd  etc/fstab bash: cd: etc/fstab: Not a directory
[20:38] <bobweaver> oops
[20:38] <gigastress> but i can find it in nautilus
[20:38] <bobweaver> gigastress,  cd /etc/fstab
[20:38] <bobweaver> then ls -al
[20:38] <Lorizean> what exactly am i looking for? I'm only finding the "Dynamic OEM Table Load"
[20:39] <gigastress> a space too much sry
[20:39] <bobweaver> gigastress, np
[20:39] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:/# cd /etc/fstab bash: cd: /etc/fstab: Not a directory
[20:39] <gigastress> sane
[20:39] <gigastress> same
[20:39] <bobweaver> hum,m
[20:39] <gigastress> its a file not a directory
[20:39] <bobweaver> gigastress,  cd /etc/
[20:39] <gigastress> ?
[20:40] <bobweaver> and then cat fstab
[20:40] <gigastress> ok
[20:40] <bobweaver> sorry
[20:41] <bobweaver> lots of numbers ?
[20:41] <gigastress> yes , paste?
[20:41] <gigastress> i think its the same that i posted before
[20:41] <gigastress> pasted
[20:42] <bobweaver> please ^^
[20:42] <gigastress> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727596/
[20:43] <gigastress> i lke my floppy^^
[20:43] <bobweaver> lol
[20:43] <gigastress> like
[20:44] <bobweaver> LVM filesystems should be listed in /etc/fstab by name  In general, filesystems are listed in /etc/fstab by UUID rather than by device name, to ensure that the filesystem can always be found reliably. If you are mounting a filesystem located on LVM, however, it is recommended that you list them in /etc/fstab by device name, not by UUID, because UUIDs are not unique if LVM snapshots are used, which can result in wrong
[20:44] <bobweaver> looks like you might have to edit this file :>)
[20:44] <gigastress> bobweaver, somehow strange that another uuid is showing up at startup?
[20:45] <gigastress> yeah thats waht i figured
[20:45] <gigastress> i dont want to corrupt it...
[20:45] <bobweaver> gigastress,  do you know how to use sed ?
[20:45] <gigastress> nope
[20:46] <gigastress> thought that used to be a party
[20:46] <bobweaver> ok 1st thing frist lest make backup of file
[20:46] <bobweaver> cp /ect/fstab   /tmp
[20:46] <gigastress> bobweaver, do you think its strange that another uuid is showing up at startup?
[20:47] <bobweaver> gigastress,  a little
[20:47] <gigastress> k
[20:47] <gigastress> wait
[20:48] <gigastress> ok did that
[20:48] <bobweaver> cool     cd  /tmp
[20:49] <bobweaver> is the file there ?
[20:49] <gigastress> wait
[20:50] <gigastress> bobwaever, nautilus says yes
[20:50] <bobweaver> good gigastress  now we are going to learn how to use sed
[20:51] <gigastress> ^^
[20:51] <bobweaver> sed is a stream line editor
[20:51] <gigastress> i guess ilearn, you teach
[20:51] <gigastress> dont fully comprehend that description
[20:52] <Lorizean> sorry to be so dense, I still don't know how to find my audio device mont point :(
[20:52] <bobweaver> that is ok
[20:52] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  hang on a sec plz
[20:52] <Lorizean> sure
[20:53] <bobweaver> gigastress,  plz   open terminal and enter      nano /tmp/test.txt
[20:54] <bobweaver> gigastress,  plz paste this in there     http://paste.ubuntu.com/727604/
[20:54] <bobweaver> Windows is great I love Windows I can not wait till the next issue of Windows
[20:54] <bobweaver> that is waht needs to be in there
[20:55] <gigastress> bobweaver, shows nothing
[20:55] <bobweaver> gigastress,  once you have pasted that in there press   ctrl+x   then enter then  y
[20:56] <gigastress> bobweaver,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/727605/
[20:57] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:/tmp# y y: command not found
[20:57] <bobweaver> good gigastress  now paste this in there
[20:57] <bobweaver> Windows is great I love Windows I can not wait till the next issue of Windows
[20:57] <gigastress> what?
[20:57] <gigastress> paste?
[20:57] <bobweaver> ok gigastress  lets try this      open gedit
[20:58] <gigastress> ok
[20:58] <bobweaver> put this in there
[20:58] <bobweaver> Windows is great I love Windows I can not wait till the next issue of Windows
[20:58] <bobweaver> save it as     test.txt   under  /tmp
[20:58] <gigastress> ok
[20:58] <gigastress> ill do that then
[20:59] <gigastress> but what do i paste there?
[20:59] <bobweaver> Windows is great I love Windows I can not wait till the next issue of Windows
[20:59] <bobweaver> paste that in there ^^
[21:00] <gigastress> "that"?
[21:00] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[21:00] <gigastress> "Windows is great I love Windows I can not wait till the next issue of Windows"?
[21:00] <bobweaver> YES
[21:01] <Lorizean> ah, its not my mic that isn't working, neither mic nor sound are working at all - i need to tell teamspeak where my sound device is located but i dunno where :)
[21:01] <gigastress> any reason for that message?
[21:01] <bobweaver> gigastress,  you will see
[21:01] <Lorizean> it defaults to /dev/dsp
[21:01] <Lorizean> but that doesnt seem to work
[21:01] <gigastress> hm argh
[21:01] <gigastress> ok i did that
[21:02] <bobweaver> ok gigastress  now in terminal   cd /tmp && cat test.txt
[21:02] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:/tmp# cd /tmp && cat test.txt Windows is great I love Windows I can not wait till the next issue of Windows
[21:02] <bobweaver> cool
[21:02] <bobweaver> ok
[21:03] <bobweaver> this is how sed works
[21:03] <gigastress> i thought you were repaeting yourself^^
[21:03] <bobweaver> in termninal    please do this
[21:03] <bobweaver> sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu/g' /tmp/test.txt
[21:04] <bobweaver> then cat /tmp/test.txt
[21:04] <gigastress> bobweaver, root@ubuntu:/tmp# sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu/g' /tmp/test.txt sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[21:05] <bobweaver> ohh you are root
[21:05] <bobweaver> exit
[21:05] <bobweaver> then \
[21:05] <bobweaver> sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu/g' /tmp/test.txt
[21:05] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:~# sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu/g' /tmp/test.txt sed: can't read /tmp/test.txt: No such file or directory
[21:06] <bobweaver> sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu/g'  test.txt
[21:06] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:~# sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu/g'  test.txt sed: can't read test.txt: No such file or directory
[21:06] <bobweaver> exit
[21:06] <gigastress> in gedit it now says:
[21:07] <gigastress> The file /tmp/test.txt changed on disk.
[21:07] <gigastress> Do you want to reload the file?
[21:07] <bobweaver> YES
[21:07] <gigastress> reload?
[21:07] <bobweaver> YES
[21:07] <gigastress> quit gedit?
[21:07] <bobweaver> No
[21:07] <gigastress> hm
[21:08] <bobweaver> what does it say now ?
[21:08] <gigastress> bobweaver, now then cat /tmp/test.txt?
[21:08] <bobweaver> yes !
[21:08] <gigastress> Ubuntu is great I love Ubuntu I can not wait till the next issue of Ubuntu
[21:08] <gigastress> wow didnt recognise
[21:08] <bobweaver> now do you see how sed works
[21:08] <gigastress> hm
[21:08] <gigastress> i need to look at taht again
[21:09] <bobweaver> sed -i 's/firstname/whatyouwant to change to/g'    <file>>
[21:09] <gigastress> s and g is what i dont nuderstand, but in general ok, capsisco
[21:10] <bobweaver> cool
[21:10] <gigastress> i hope i dont have to learn that by heart^^^
[21:10] <bobweaver> the s means switch
[21:10] <bobweaver> the g means  re-wright
[21:10] <bobweaver> so does the -i
[21:10] <gigastress> wright?
[21:10] <gigastress> write?
[21:10] <bobweaver> yes
[21:10] <escott> gigastress, s=substitute g=globally (not just the first time)
[21:10] <bobweaver> sorry about spelling
[21:10] <gigastress> no g in taht
[21:11] <bobweaver> thanks escott
[21:11] <gigastress> ok ok
[21:11] <gigastress> ^^
[21:11] <gigastress> thanks , escott
[21:11] <bobweaver> so if you want to change /etc/fstab    you could use sed or you could use a text editor
[21:11] <bobweaver> I just thpought that this is a great chance to teach you sed
[21:12] <gigastress> hm k
[21:12] <gigastress> i prefer doing it in gedit i guess
[21:12] <bobweaver> but now you have a back up file in tmp to play with
[21:12] <gigastress> with search & replace
[21:12] <gigastress> ok
[21:13] <gigastress> i got i somewhere else as well
[21:13] <bobweaver> cool
[21:13] <gigastress> is fstab really the only thing to edit?
[21:13] <bobweaver> looks like it
[21:13] <bobweaver> I could be wrong
[21:13] <gigastress> hm
[21:13]  * bobweaver is not that good with lvm
[21:13] <gigastress> so what do you think i need to replace?
[21:13] <bobweaver> maybe someone else can jump in
[21:14] <bobweaver> LVM filesystems should be listed in /etc/fstab by name  In general, filesystems are listed in /etc/fstab by UUID rather than by device name, to ensure that the filesystem can always be found reliably. If you are mounting a filesystem located on LVM, however, it is recommended that you list them in /etc/fstab by device name, not by UUID, because UUIDs are not unique if LVM snapshots are used, which can result in wrong
[21:14] <gigastress> anyone good with lvm?
[21:14] <gigastress> yah
[21:14] <gigastress> so delete a uuid and replace with "dev/sda2" ?
[21:15] <bobweaver> Not sure
[21:15] <bobweaver> googleing
[21:15] <gigastress> if that is the case which one then
[21:15]  * bobweaver dont want to give out bad info but that is the way that it looks
[21:15] <gigastress> im pretty sure about that
[21:16] <gigastress> still, another uuid showing up at startup, rember?
[21:16] <gigastress> remember
[21:16] <bobweaver> that is right
[21:17] <bobweaver> sda1 right ?
[21:17] <bobweaver> boot partition
[21:17] <gigastress> sda1 is boot
[21:17] <gigastress> i remember...
[21:17] <gigastress> sda2 should be the filesystem , home, and swap newbnewb
[21:18] <bobweaver> looks like you are going to have to make some lines for sda2 in /ec t/fstab
[21:19] <gigastress> hm
[21:19] <bobweaver> but I am not sure what the lines should say ..
[21:19] <bobweaver> Anyone ????
[21:20] <gigastress> the page with fstab and other grub files i saw was sth. like the lvm config manual
[21:20] <gigastress> the page with fstab and other  files ,grub i gueess, that i saw was sth. like the lvm config manual
[21:21] <gigastress> or install howto
[21:23] <bobweaver> http://linuxconfig.org/Linux_lvm_-_Logical_Volume_Manager      look at #7
[21:24] <gigastress> hm
[21:24] <gigastress> no sda2 there as well
[21:26] <bobweaver> gigastress,  I think that is because they cjhangedit to  mynew_vg
[21:26] <bobweaver> please read all the steps
[21:26] <bobweaver> my badd for telling you to go to step 7    sorry
[21:27] <gigastress> k
[21:27] <gigastress> hope ill comprehend any of that
[21:29] <bobweaver> If it was me I would back that stuff up and re-instyall
[21:29] <bobweaver> 8.10 is way old
[21:29] <gigastress> that was what i was thinking
[21:30] <gigastress> well i made it with the upgrade to 9.10
[21:30] <bobweaver> sweet
[21:30] <gigastress> 10.4 upgrade messed up lvm boot
[21:30] <bobweaver> like I said before I would install lubuntu 11/10 on ther
[21:30] <bobweaver> 11.10  there *
[21:30] <gigastress> i was thinking about changing fstab but couldnt find any howt
[21:31] <gigastress> any howto before the 10.4 upgarde
[21:31] <gigastress> hoping it would work anyway and then i would aupgrade to 11.10
[21:31] <gigastress> yaeh
[21:32]  * bobweaver says alittle above his head
[21:32] <bobweaver> one day ...
[21:32] <gigastress> do you know any external hard drives WORKING on linux?
[21:32] <gigastress> son i can back up some files of the lvm
[21:33] <gigastress> bought one today but only semi-worked
[21:33] <gigastress> so i gave that shit back^^
[21:33] <bobweaver> sure
[21:34] <gigastress> a guy in a computer store told me then taht external harddrives have usb-adapters that are made for WIndows
[21:34] <bobweaver> now that you are chrooted in you could make a tar or whatever
[21:34] <gigastress> just copy and the delete the harddrives, u know
[21:34] <bobweaver> gigastress,  sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu'  *life :>)
[21:35] <gigastress> do u want me to get a new life???
[21:35] <gigastress> ^^
[21:35] <bobweaver> hahah No
[21:36] <gigastress> root@ubuntu:~# sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu'  *life sed: -e expression #1, char 16: unterminated `s' command
[21:36] <bobweaver> do you have a extrenal harddirve ?
[21:36] <gigastress> i gave it back
[21:36] <gigastress> didnt buy another cause that guy said that
[21:36] <bobweaver> that @#$^&
[21:37] <gigastress> any experience, with like a terrabite external hd?
[21:37] <bobweaver> sorry I back up on my serverss
[21:38] <gigastress> what was that command for?
[21:38] <bobweaver> big ex-HD
[21:38] <gigastress> what was that command for?
[21:38] <bobweaver> I use putty
[21:38] <gigastress> putty?
[21:38] <bobweaver> !putty
[21:38] <ubot2> PuTTY is an !SSH client for Windows. Please see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage and downloads. See also !scp (Secure CoPy)
[21:39] <gigastress> to backup?
[21:39] <bobweaver> to my servers
[21:39] <gigastress> i dont think i gonna do sth like taht
[21:39] <gigastress> what was that command for? sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu'
[21:39] <gigastress> sudo sed -i 's/Windows/Ubuntu'  *life
[21:39] <bobweaver> that was a joke :>)
[21:40] <bobweaver> about the guy at the store
[21:40] <gigastress> which i didnt understand
[21:40] <gigastress> well HE said that they only sell those
[21:40] <bobweaver> umm
[21:41] <gigastress> and that im supposed to search forums in order to find one thatll work with my linux
[21:41] <gigastress> or better 10.4 lkucid live cd
[21:41] <gigastress> hope that ill be successful there
[21:42] <gigastress> do you know where to search sth. like that bythe way?
[21:43]  * bobweaver has no clue about sth   sorry
[21:44] <bobweaver> gigastress,  try #ubuntu   maybe someone there might know sorry
[21:44] <bobweaver> I wish that I could help more but I dont want to give out bad info
[21:44] <gigastress> google doesnt help me
[21:45] <gigastress> neither in english nor german
[21:45] <bobweaver> dang
[21:46] <gigastress> yeah u name it
[21:46] <gigastress> are u really american by the way?
[21:46] <bobweaver> yup
[21:47] <gigastress> k
[21:47] <bobweaver> gigastress,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
[21:47] <gigastress> i thought you were leaking some eastern european "slang" while writing
[21:48] <gigastress> ^^
[21:48] <gigastress> but neverminf
[21:48] <gigastress> cant  watch this cause on live cd
[21:49] <bobweaver> gigastress,  please open gparted
[21:51] <gigastress> did that
[21:51] <bobweaver> can you shrink it down ?
[21:51] <bobweaver> sda2 that is
[21:52] <bobweaver> !screenshot | gigastress
[21:52] <ubot2> gigastress: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.
[21:52] <gigastress> theres an ! behind sda2
[21:52] <gigastress> what button?
[21:53] <bobweaver> aptake screen shot plications ->accessiories->
[21:53] <bobweaver> argghhhhh
[21:53] <gigastress> ^^
[21:53] <gigastress> sry used to know where that button is
[21:53] <bobweaver> applications => accessiories-> take screen shot
[21:54] <gigastress> where does it save it?
[21:54] <bobweaver> home foloder
[21:54] <bobweaver> folder
[21:55] <gigastress> no...
[21:56] <bobweaver> import -window root ~/Desktop/`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.png
[21:56] <bobweaver> in terminal ^^
[21:56] <gigastress> sry wait my bad
[21:56] <bobweaver> then look at you desktop
[21:58] <gigastress> bobwaever, sry , here http://imagebin.org/182331
[21:59] <gigastress>  i dont think i can shrink, just because its almost full, 2.5 gb left
[22:00] <bobweaver> dang
[22:01] <bobweaver> gigastress,  what is goal ?
[22:02] <gigastress> the space between the posts on soccer pitches?
[22:02] <gigastress> i mean, to save like 300gb of sda2
[22:02] <bobweaver> lol
[22:02] <bobweaver> you do not have any other harddrives laying around ?
[22:03] <gigastress> nope
[22:03] <gigastress> another internal but full
[22:03] <bobweaver> dang man
[22:03] <gigastress> yupp
[22:03] <gigastress> linux is great!
[22:03] <gigastress> is what i found out till i saw this
[22:04] <bobweaver> ok
[22:04] <bobweaver> lets try this if you want
[22:04] <bobweaver> add
[22:05] <bobweaver> let me see sudo fdisk -l
[22:08] <gigastress_> im back, bobweaver
[22:09] <bobweaver> let me see sudo fdisk -l
[22:09] <gigastress_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727658/
[22:10] <Lorizean> hm, i'm back, regarding my sound problem: I think i need this http://alsa.opensrc.org/OssEmulation but i cannot find the modules
[22:10] <Lorizean> i try modprobe snd-pcm-oss and it tells me the module isn't there
[22:11] <bobweaver> gigastress_, did you reboot ?
[22:13] <gigastress_> nope?
[22:13] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  reboot with OUT the live cd can you get in ?
[22:14] <gigastress_> no, thats wahts the problem is
[22:14] <gigastress_> pw not accepted
[22:14] <gigastress_> tried us and german version of my pass
[22:14] <bobweaver> Lorizean,  please run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:14] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  and nothing
[22:15] <Lorizean> bobweaver, done, nothing was upgraded
[22:15] <gigastress_> bobweaver, pw-prompting-screen saying "cryptsetup failed, bad password, or options"
[22:15] <gigastress_> bobweaver, and nothing??
[22:18] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  you are still chrooted ? \
[22:18] <gigastress_> hm
[22:18] <gigastress_> i have acces to sda2
[22:18] <bobweaver> good
[22:18] <bobweaver> sudo aptitude install cryptsetup hashalot initramfs-tools lvm2
[22:19] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[22:19] <bobweaver> take a lOok plz
[22:20] <gigastress_> do you have an idea? bobweaver?
[22:21] <bobweaver> ^^ that shows you what to add to ect/fstab
[22:21] <bobweaver> Customize files
[22:21] <bobweaver> Edit /etc/crypttab and enter the following line.
[22:22] <bobweaver> but looks like you need to mount other things firdst
[22:22] <bobweaver> 1st *
[22:24] <gigastress_> hu?
[22:26] <gigastress_> bobweaver, i think thats the howto of the old 8.04 aproved encryption
[22:26] <bobweaver> Note by DB6EDR: At least on my netbook with Natty (11.04), i
[22:26] <bobweaver> do you see that ???
[22:27] <gigastress_> sry, bobweaver, exthd on #ubuntu is me, i put it in the wrong window
[22:27] <bobweaver> ohh lol
[22:28] <bobweaver> I was wondering about that
[22:28] <gigastress_> bobweaver, i think thats the howto of the old 8.04 aproved encryption
[22:29] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  try this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11275/how-to-change-dm-crypt-aes-256-lvm-password-after-install
[22:30] <gigastress_> and if i edit fstab, how can boot see it, when sda2 is not mounted yet? bobweaver
[22:31] <gigastress_> ok, ill see
[22:31] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  I think that I am at my end with this I am really trying to help out but I dont know that there is anything else that I can doo but just point you to links
[22:32] <bobweaver> I am sorry I wish that I could do more
[22:32] <gigastress_> i know i know
[22:32] <bobweaver> but this is all I know about it
[22:32] <gigastress_> and i highly appreiacte this, bobweaver
[22:32] <bobweaver> it is no trouble I really wish I could help more
[22:33] <bobweaver> but it seems to me that something is crazy. you might have to bite the bullet
[22:33] <bobweaver> or try and find more help
[22:33] <gigastress_> its always nice to see there are people who are willing to help other, bobweaver, thats what makes the world go round
[22:34] <bobweaver> or buy a new HD
[22:34] <bobweaver> just a hard dive
[22:34] <bobweaver> this is a laptop or a desktop
[22:34] <gigastress_> an internal one then
[22:34] <gigastress_> pc
[22:34] <bobweaver> laptop or desktop ?
[22:35] <bobweaver> what is make and model
[22:35] <gigastress_> make?
[22:35] <bobweaver> why I ask is I have a bunch of extra hardrives laying around
[22:36] <bobweaver> lots dor desktops
[22:36] <bobweaver> for *
[22:37] <gigastress_> hardware: processor: AMD sempron(tm) 2300+, bobweaver
[22:39] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  have you ever replaced a harddrive before ?
[22:41] <gigastress_> internal one s yes.
[22:41] <gigastress_> bobweaver
[22:41] <bobweaver> cool there is a thing called masscool
[22:41] <bobweaver> you can hook up what ever harddrive you like
[22:42] <bobweaver> I use for customers that are trying to recover stuff
[22:42] <bobweaver> but customers dont ussaly encryt there stuff :>)
[22:43] <gigastress_> well am i a costumer?
[22:43] <bobweaver> no
[22:43] <gigastress_> im more of  a victim of my doing here.., bobweaver
[22:43] <gigastress_> doings
[22:43] <bobweaver> what is so important that is on there ?
[22:44] <bobweaver> I mean what is in your home folder that is so importand
[22:44] <bobweaver> and how big is your home folder
[22:44] <bobweaver> have you thought about taking just the home folder and uploading it to staorage
[22:44] <bobweaver> say ubuntu one
[22:45] <bobweaver> they give only 5 gigs of free online
[22:45] <bobweaver> but if you contact and tell them what is going on who knows
[22:45] <gigastress_> nah i dont do sth like that online
[22:45] <gigastress_> dont trust taht
[22:46] <bobweaver> all my servers are  not that big Or I would offer
[22:46] <bobweaver> they are just for me to play with
[22:46] <bobweaver> you have no other computers ?
[22:46] <bobweaver> maybe some one that you trust >?
[22:46] <gigastress_> no ones with 100gb of free space
[22:47] <bobweaver> you could use something like teamveiwer to transfrer then transfer back after
[22:47] <bobweaver> home folder is bigger then 100gig ?
[22:48] <bobweaver> that is huge
[22:48] <bobweaver> well for the time you can just keep using live cd
[22:49] <bobweaver> how about buying a usb and doing a persetiant
[22:49] <bobweaver> there are alot of options out ther
[22:49] <bobweaver> there *
[22:50] <bobweaver> but I am sure if you keep on looking that you will find the lvm Guru out there
[22:50] <bobweaver> try to email davelachapelle.
[22:50] <bobweaver> try to email dave lachapelle.
[22:51] <gigastress_> persetiant?
[22:52] <gigastress_> hm
[22:52] <gigastress_> ill write that in #ubuntu^^ LVM-Guru , the Great, I msut summon you
[22:52] <bobweaver> loll :>)
[22:53] <bobweaver> tou have read this http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-lvm-guide/
[22:58] <gigastress_> bobweaver, sry i first thought this was a joke mixing the name with dave chappelll of chappelles show
[23:02] <gigastress_> bobweaver, after looking through this i dont think theres any useful information i can us for my crux
[23:05] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  what I was trying to say is there might be a email in there some where
[23:06] <bobweaver> "contact me " sorta stuff
[23:06] <gigastress_> uh, k, didnt look at this
[23:09] <gigastress_> hm  so  am I contacting the maybe-Guru about this or just get an ext.HD working....hm
[23:25] <gigastress_> bobweaver, thx for all your time and help, i think im gonna try the ext.hd solution tomorrow night
[23:25] <gigastress_> have a good upcoming night, hope you'll take care of yourself
[23:26] <gigastress_> have a good one, and dont mess it up with doggy dog


[13:21] <hrw> hi
[13:21] <hrw> summit.ubuntu.com can be discussed here or rather on #ubuntu-locoteams?
[13:43] <daker> hrw: try in #ubuntu-locoteams
[13:57] <hrw> ok
[17:15] <AlanBell> I am liking this with the use of a bit of the maverick background http://i.imgur.com/yKglj.png
[17:20] <daker> AlanBell: i like it
[17:20] <daker> 10/10
[17:23] <AlanBell> if bug 635035 gets fixed I might try and incorporate a few of those ideas into the wiki
[17:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 635035 in ubuntu-website "light-moin-theme is not on Launchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635035
[17:37] <daker> AlanBell: who is working on it ?
[17:38] <daker> i mean the mockup
[17:42] <AlanBell> http://meta.ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/377/design-ideas-for-the-final-site
[17:42] <AlanBell> Mat Tomaszewski
[17:43] <daker> AlanBell: thanks
[18:18] <stas_> the logo reminds me about omg ubuntu
[18:18] <stas_> is it ok?
[18:25] <AlanBell> hah, where do you thing OMG ripped their design from?
[19:09] <newz2000> AlanBell: bug 635035 fixed
[19:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 635035 in ubuntu-website "light-moin-theme is not on Launchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635035
[21:06] <AlanBell> yay :)
[21:48] <AlanBell> newz2000: is the plan still to release next wednesday?
[21:48] <newz2000> AlanBell: yes
[21:48] <AlanBell> I would kind of advocate not doing it in the middle of the open week tbh
[21:49] <AlanBell> either bring it forward and release on 10/10/10 or push back to the end of the week
[21:49] <newz2000> I've asked to have it pushed to the end of the week but we'll see. I think we need to assume it won't happen.
[21:50] <AlanBell> ok
[21:50] <AlanBell> would bringing it forward to 10/10/10 be more acceptable?
[21:51] <newz2000> Maybe. The only prob is everything is so busy for release, another todo item won't go over well.
[21:52] <AlanBell> yeah, I can understand that
[22:26] <akgraner> newz2000, if I go ahead a switch me view to light and make sure the Open Week pages look ago - then I shouldn't see any surprises on Wednesday right?
[22:27] <newz2000> akgraner: sounds like a reasonable assumption
[22:28] <akgraner> newz2000, I try never to assume :-) that's why I ask :-P
[22:28] <newz2000> You're trying not to assume and I'm trying not to make any promises. ;-)
[22:30] <akgraner> hehehe you rock!
[23:01] <AlanBell> great, I have the theme up and running on my laptop now
[23:02] <newz2000> The hard part is behind you
[23:07] <AlanBell> yup, I will get cracking with the easy stuff tomorrow
[23:08] <daker> AlanBell, what theme ?
[23:48] <akgraner> newz2000, hey we are having a news team meeting in Ubuntu-news in about 10 minutes if you or someone else from here wants to join


[03:11] <ubptgbot> Sinep Schulz was added by: Sinep Schulz
[08:21] <ubptgbot> patil . was added by: patil .
[08:21] <ubptgbot> <patil .> https://telegram.me/motivationkatta
 @mateosalta [Certainally not as easy to flash as the opo. Since the pro 5 ones you find are m …], I don't think it was quite as hard as that. IIRC FlymeOS played well with TWRP and getting Ubports OTA-3 on was pretty easy. After that yes some tinkering with the partitions was required but I think any Linux user comfortable with the
[10:23] <ubptgbot> CL can follow the forum guides.
 Having to do that is worth it for superior hardware to the OPO IMO. Besides the SD card, you also have fast charging and the ability (again with a little hacking) for screencasting.
[10:42] <ubptgbot> IDjam ke was added by: IDjam ke
[10:57] <ubptgbot> <O O> Hello
[10:57] <ubptgbot> <O O> Ubports is stuck at starting adb service
[10:57] <ubptgbot> <O O> Did i do something wrong when installing?
 @O O [Hello], Hi, you can get help with that in our Install group (https://t.me/WelcomePlus) … You can read / search the history group too while waiting for someone to give you a hand :)
[13:43] <ubptgbot> Tobefr was added by: Tobefr
[16:29] <ubptgbot> bianfuchen was added by: bianfuchen
[18:28] <ubptgbot> Mikeee_128 was added by: Mikeee_128
 Is there any way to run paytm, Tez, Phonpe ?
 I am use Nexus 5... And i am thinking to use Ubuntu touch as my main os... So if its please do let me kwn guys.. Thank you
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> Hi sorry these are android apps you can but it's very limiting with ANBOX
[18:52] <Cadavero> Is there a way to make messages in the messaging app send with the enter key?
 @Mikeee_128 [Is there any way to run paytm, Tez, Phonpe ?], if you can use them from web perhaps. i don't know what those are
 These are just online payment apps... Which i used on my daily bases
 oh, tez is replaced by google pay, so i guess it's not usable
 In Poland, we have something like Blik. The bank's application or website generates a code that works for 2 minutes and allows you to make payments (also in shop terminals). Just log in to your bank's website to generate such a code and pay it in the store or even withdraw money from an ATM. After making the payment, you just need to app
[18:56] <ubptgbot> rove it in the bank's application or website.
 https://blikmobile.pl/en/
 Referring to UBports, simply log in to the bank website, generate the code, pay, confirm. You can create a shortcut to the bank page to make it faster.
 that won't help in india though :)
 Yes, I know, unfortunately. I just put it as a curiosity. Maybe somewhere else he is doing something similar.
 hmm, phonepe has an api, but only for accepting payments and generating some QR code
 but no API for the client app side to send the payments; and seemingly no web page to log in on either
 ah, it's a more generic thing called UPI, for which it might even be possible to implement a third party app, at least for some banks
 has any body figured out the problem with the second gen nexus 7 tablet? I get the failed with 8 mesage with the cache.
 nexus 7 cant boot to recovery.
 @nanu_c Can I somehow force the Signal app to download messages..? Maybe there's a way to reinstall + keep/restore the keys to get it working again? … Right now I haven't had any new messages in the app for one or two weeks.
[23:11] <ubptgbot> USERL7 was added by: USERL7


[00:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thank you
[00:16] <chrisccoulson> hey micahg
[00:17] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i figured out why OOPP was not enabled for flash on my computer
[00:17] <chrisccoulson> i'm using 64-bit flash player
[00:18] <chrisccoulson> and it has a different so name (libflashplayer64.so)
[00:18]  * chrisccoulson curses adobe
[00:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm surprised you're using 64 bit flash
[00:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: but thank you for fixing the packaging for OOPP
[00:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, i'd forgotten i even installed that
[00:19] <micahg> chrisccoulson: does it actually work now?
[00:19] <chrisccoulson> micahg - you're welcome
[00:19] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it seems to be working quite well now
[00:19] <micahg> and if so, can you push new update to security PPA?
[00:20] <chrisccoulson> it even tells me that flash has crashed when i kill the plugin-container process :)
[00:20] <chrisccoulson> micahg - do you know if we need a similar change to xulrunner too?
[00:20] <micahg> chrisccoulson: idk, but ff37 probably needs the same thing
[00:21] <chrisccoulson> ok, i'll see if xulrunner ships this binary too
[00:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: great, thanks
[00:51] <micahg> chrisccoulson: can you close that ff bug in the changelog if you get a chance
[00:52] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, can do
[00:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[00:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: If you have a chance, can you look at the build failure on xul193 to see if it's a quick fix, otherwise, I'll look at it this weekend
[00:54] <chrisccoulson> micahg - how do we handle the changelog for the subsequent security update? ie, i open the branch up for 3.6.4+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, but do I keep all the info such as the USN under the previous changelog entry?
[00:54] <chrisccoulson> or should all the info be under the new entry?
[00:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: maybe leave it in the old one and do a -v
[00:56] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that makes sense
[13:59] <BUGabundo> have you guys seen the new apple laptops ? http://img.funtasticus.com/2008/nov/041510wrong/wrong_33.jpg
[14:02] <sebner> BUGabundo: oooooooooolllld :P
[14:02] <BUGabundo> :(
[15:40] <asac> chrisccoulson: is security update in -security?
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> hi asac - it is
[15:40] <asac> i am not sure if there will be another 3.5.x release ... for 3.0 we probably need to start now preparing the major version upgrade too
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> yeah, no problem
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> we've got working OOPP support now too
[15:49] <asac> oh langpacks are there ... we can verify search ;)
[15:49]  * asac waits for upgrade to finish
[15:55] <asac> wow ... we have "i386  20"
[15:55] <asac> 20 bulders for i386 ppa O_o
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> asac - have you seen that firefox fails to builds on PPC, sparc and ia64 now?