[08:07] <dupondje> We don't have some PPA/Repo with Firefox built with Wayland support?
[08:07] <dupondje> tried to build it, but seems failing :(


[11:43] <xerox> Okay, one more thing, INSTALL says it has to be compiled with "sh make.sh" rather than then usual "sh configure; make; make install", is that a problem?
[11:43] <Fackamato> xerox: those are commands
[11:44] <Fackamato> sh make.sh runs the bash script make.sh
[11:44] <Fackamato> sh configure runs the configure script
[11:44] <Fackamato> those are different files
[11:44] <bajone> hi
[11:44] <xerox> Fackamato: I know, I don't know if dpkg handles this, for compilation.
[11:44] <bajone> I have a question
[11:45] <Tuxadermist> I am gonna assume last weeks nvidia driver breakage has been corrected ...
[11:45] <sergiolib> hello
[11:45] <bajone> where I can find other ubuntu install cd-s?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ohgood: apt-cache search linux-headers | grep $(uname -r)
[11:45] <sergiolib> i got a problem
[11:45] <xerox> dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory
[11:45] <xerox> dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package
[11:45] <xerox> :(
[11:45] <sergiolib> can't install skype
[11:45] <farruinn> xerox: is there a debian directory?
[11:45] <ohgood> thoreauputic, there are none for 2.6.10
[11:45] <farruinn> xerox: if there isn't you'll have to use checkinstall
[11:46] <xerox> farruinn: there isn't
[11:46] <farruinn> xerox: ok, then that source isn't "debianized", you'll have to apt-get checkinstall and use that
[11:46] <thoreauputic> ohgood: you have all repositories enabled?
[11:46] <bajone> can be done a full ubuntu install, or only a lite 1 cd install?
[11:46] <inphlict> Can someone help me pls?
[11:46] <inphlict> I installed xmms and it doesn't run my mp3s
[11:46] <ohgood> thoreauputic, everything from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <inphlict> it froze
[11:46] <xerox> I think I'll try the .deb before, thank you all very much for the help.
[11:47] <Rocha> inphlict, don't use xmms, use rhythmbox
[11:47] <andrewski> inphlict: or mpd. :)
[11:47] <Rocha> inphlict, install gstreamer-mad from synaptic
[11:47] <farruinn> Rocha: that doesn't answer his question
[11:47] <thoreauputic> inphlict: you may be missing libmikmod2
[11:47] <inphlict> music works for the other player I have here
[11:47] <inphlict> the default one with ubuntu
[11:48] <andrewski> inphlict: did you try running xmms in a terminal to see what output it gives?  it might have some useful output.
[11:48] <Rocha> farruinn, if he uses rhythmbox, gstreamer-mad will help i think :|
[11:48] <thoreauputic> inphlict: run it from a terminal and see what errors you get
[11:48] <Rocha> farruinn, it helped me
[11:48] <ohgood> thoreauputic,  is there an all-inclusive list somewhere ?
[11:48] <inphlict> how do I run it from terminal i'm a noob
[11:48] <inphlict> whats the command
[11:48] <MobyTurbo> bajone, it's one CD, but it's very carefully selected to give a full desktop environment. You can get additional packages that aren't on CD with synaptic or apt via the net. Even most of a Debian sid snapshot, which is the largest distro there is.
[11:48] <keffo> asd
[11:48] <thoreauputic> inphlict: xmms , funnily enough ;)
[11:48] <inphlict> xmms
[11:48] <andrewski> inphlict: and you can paste the output to #paste
[11:48] <inphlict> does nothing
[11:48] <xerox> Okay, it doesn't work, it depends on debian-specific packages.
[11:49] <inphlict> when I type xmss I can no output in terminal
[11:49] <thoreauputic> inphlict: what does  `which xmms` say ?
[11:49] <keffo> xmms <-
[11:49] <keffo> ;P
[11:49] <xerox> Do you suggest checkinstall? thoreauputic referred at it as "quick and dirty" :( ?
[11:49] <inphlict> sorry I wrote it right in the terminal
[11:50] <ohgood> anyone have a sources.list for linux-headers-2.6.10-4-386 ?
[11:50] <farruinn> xerox: yeah, if you want the cvs version just use that
[11:50] <inphlict> /usr/bin/xmms
[11:50] <farruinn> xerox: it's easier than debianizing the source yourself
[11:50] <inphlict> is what I get with why xmms in terminal
[11:50] <thoreauputic> xerox: works well - makes a deb and installs it
[11:50] <andrewski> inphlict: well, does xmms start up when you run it?
[11:50] <inphlict> yes it starts
[11:50] <xerox> Okay, let me try.
[11:50] <inphlict> when i try to load a mp3
[11:50] <inphlict> and play it
[11:50] <inphlict> it freezes and I can't close it
[11:50] <andrewski> inphlict: ok, try playing an mp3 and get it to freeze; at that point, there should be some output.
[11:50] <inphlict> in fact it's open now and I cannot close it
[11:50] <andrewski> hmm, no output?
[11:50] <inphlict> nope
[11:51] <inphlict> it's just frozen on desktop
[11:51] <thoreauputic> inphlict:  ctrl-c in the terminal
[11:51] <inphlict> i didn't run it from terminal
[11:51] <thoreauputic> to close it
[11:51] <andrewski> inphlict: why not? :)
[11:51] <inphlict> doesn't close
[11:51] <inphlict> because this was before I came here :)
[11:51] <inphlict> I run it from menu
[11:51] <inphlict> and it froze
[11:51] <inphlict> i came here
[11:51] <inphlict> because I cannot close it
[11:51] <farruinn> inphlict: go to a terminal and do 'killall xmms' :)
[11:52] <thoreauputic> type xkill in a terminal, and zap it with the mouse, then
[11:52] <farruinn> that should get the nasty buggers
[11:52] <MobyTurbo> inphlict, run xkill and click on it
[11:52] <inphlict> thanks
[11:52] <thoreauputic> farruinn: yeah, that's easier
[11:52] <inphlict> killall xmms worked
[11:52] <ohgood> so, no one has 2.6.10 headers, or a nice HOWTO for nvidia 3d ?
[11:52] <farruinn> will xkill get all the threads?
[11:52] <inphlict> okay now what
[11:52] <thoreauputic> farruinn: probably not
[11:52] <farruinn> try running xmms from the terminal now inphlict
[11:52] <MobyTurbo> no need to run it in a terminal, just type alt-F2 to run xkill or other non-menued X programs
[11:52] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[11:52] <inphlict> okay
[11:52] <inphlict> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:52] <inphlict> this is what I get
[11:52] <inphlict> when I run it
[11:52] <thoreauputic> MobyTurbo: we're trying to debug
[11:52] <andrewski> MobyTurbo: we need output.
[11:53] <MobyTurbo> oh, OK. nm
[11:53] <inphlict> the mp3s I try to open are mounted from a ntsf system
[11:53] <inphlict> but they work with the default player
[11:53] <thoreauputic> inphlict: sudo apt-get install libmikmod2
[11:53] <inphlict> k 1 sec
[11:53] <farruinn> this bug is documented, right? Someone is fixing it?
[11:54] <andrewski> farruinn: which bug?
[11:54] <thoreauputic> farruinn: it's a warty bug - it's fixed in hoary I think
[11:54] <ohgood> apparently it wants XF86, for nvidia setup, but i'm using Xorg, is there any work around for nvidia kernel patch ?
[11:54] <farruinn> andrewski: xmms should depend on libmikmod2, apparently it doesn't
[11:54] <farruinn> thoreauputic: I see
[11:54] <andrewski> farruinn: ah.
[11:54] <andrewski> ohgood: hoary?
[11:54] <inphlict> okay installed all the stuff
[11:54] <mdke> does xmms have a shuffle albums feature?
[11:54] <inphlict> but when I ran it again
[11:54] <Rocha> farruinn, do you know if mono 1.1.4 will be included in ubuntu hoary?
[11:54] <inphlict> it froze once more
[11:54] <ohgood> andrew, let me chcek...
[11:55] <mazzabr> ow. no sond here
[11:55] <inphlict> no error or anything
[11:55] <farruinn> Rocha: no idea, sorry :/
[11:55] <inphlict> just froze
[11:55] <mazzabr> dont'know what is happening
[11:55] <mak> is there a way to not redraw the contents of a window while dragging it?
[11:55] <mazzabr> can somebody help me please.
[11:55] <andrewski> ohgood: you could just look in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[11:55] <ohgood> andrew, well, i just 'cat /etc/debian_version'       hell i really don't know what it is
[11:55] <ohgood> andrew, says 3.1, but not hoary or warty or whatever
[11:55] <jacques> is it actually possible to get x.org working with the provided nvidia drivers from hoary? or aren't they ready yet?
[11:55] <andrewski> ohgood: whatever your online sources is the one you're using; if you don't know, it's probably warty.
[11:56] <inphlict> does anyone know?
[11:56] <mazzabr> i've already tried to set volume using alsamixer. but it still have nbo sound.
[11:56] <andrewski> jacques: i'm running nvidia/xorg.
[11:56] <KurtKocaine> I have one more question, is the cd I ordered in the mail a live cd?
[11:56] <andrewski> inphlict: did you install libmikmod2?
[11:56] <ohgood> andrew, i allowed all the sources, but still wont install kernel headers
[11:56] <inphlict> yes I did
[11:56] <thoreauputic> ohgood: cat /etc/issue
[11:56] <mazzabr> btw in windows it works normaly
[11:56] <andrewski> ohgood: are you trying to manually install the latest driver?
[11:56] <inphlict> I get no error when I run it in terminal
[11:56] <inphlict> but it still freezes
[11:56] <jacques> andrewski: i have to run on the nv driver. can't get it too start otherwise
[11:56] <ohgood> thenuke, hoary, then
[11:56] <jacques> only updated today, mind you.
[11:56] <andrewski> inphlict: i thought you said "libmikmod.so.2 not found"???
[11:56] <elcuco> what plugin can i install for vieweing vidoe on firefox?
[11:56] <farruinn> mak: there is a setting in Configuration Editor
[11:56] <inphlict> yes before
[11:57] <inphlict> I installed it
[11:57] <ohgood> andrew, just following the wiki howto for nvidia, it fails at the  vidia-glx-config enable
[11:57] <inphlict> just now when u told me to
[11:57] <andrewski> inphlict: and it still freezes?
[11:57] <garrut> elcucu: mplayerplug-in
[11:57] <inphlict> yes
[11:57] <mak> does this work in warty?
[11:57] <inphlict> and when it does I dont get any error or anything
[11:57] <inphlict> just freezes
[11:57] <andrewski> ohgood: hmm, i never used any wiki.
[11:57] <ohgood> andrew, how did you install ?
[11:57] <farruinn> mak: yeah, open Configuration Editor and browse to apps>metacity>general
[11:57] <andrewski> inphlict: well, i dunno then.  i don't use xmms because i don't like it. :P
[11:57] <andrewski> ohgood: synaptic.
[11:58] <inphlict> thnx anyway
[11:58] <KurtKocaine> no answer? :(
[11:58] <andrewski> inphlict: but, i might suggest you try another player; there are many with merit over xmms.
[11:58] <farruinn> mak: there is a setting for "reduced resources"
[11:58] <mazzabr> damit hail!!
[11:58] <lunitik> inphlict: you should give Rhythmbox a shot... actually very nice.
[11:58] <inphlict> alright
[11:58] <Rocha> Ubuntu has a mailing list?
[11:58] <xerox> I used checkinstall, "dpkg -L package" should show me what it installed, right?
[11:58] <mak> i'm having trouble finding this configuration editor, sorry
[11:58] <apokryphos> Rocha: several, yes. Check the site.
[11:58] <Shaquile> Hey
[11:58] <inphlict> I will try Rhythmbox
[11:58] <farruinn> Rocha: lists.ubuntu.com if you'd like to sign up
[11:58] <inphlict> thnx
[11:58] <Rocha> apokryphos, ok, thx
[11:58] <ohgood> andrewski, says it cannot install nvidia-dev
[11:59] <Shaquile> Were can I see if Ubuntu supports my Aureal Vortex soundcard?
[11:59] <lunitik> inphlict: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad to make it more useful to you however (will allow it to play mp3 files...)
[11:59] <andrewski> ohgood: why do you need nvidia-dev?
[11:59] <ohgood> andrewski, i would like nice 3d stuffs
[11:59] <farruinn> mak: Applications>System menu I think
[11:59] <andrewski> ohgood: like what?
[11:59] <ohgood> hey Twiggy
[11:59] <thoreauputic> xerox: try apt-cache policy packagename
[11:59] <elcuco> garrut, is it on some ubuntu repository?
[11:59] <ohgood> andrew, celestia, others
[11:59] <garrut> i'm running a dualhead setup with nvidia's twinview here, no problems at all
[11:59] <mak> ok. thanks, found it
[12:00] <KurtKocaine> Is the cd you order through the website a live cd? I can't find it anywhere on the website.


[00:21] <TheDrums> Sure, technically I can download the ubuntu daily, but don't see how it'd help.
[00:36] <Noskcaj> TheDrums, bug 1088054 needs confirmation
[00:37] <TheDrums> But that'd require more than just downloading, which would be *painfully* slow at this point.  (That should technically be on L/X/K too, I'd think)
[00:43] <Noskcaj> nope, just ubuntu
[00:43] <Noskcaj> it has to do with unity, have a look at the screenshot
[01:02] <TheDrums> Ah, well Ubuntu/Unity wouldn't work on here, much less so if I were to try in VBox, sorry.
[01:04] <Noskcaj> oh, never mind
[19:38] <Noskcaj> does anyone know why balloons hasn't been on. he told me he would have the candence week 2 wiki up yesterday
[19:43] <phillw> Noskcaj: no doubt real life stuff?
[19:43] <phillw> which page are you referring to?
[19:53] <Noskcaj> idk, he just said he would have all the week 2 stuff up on the wiki and would send out an email about it


[07:08] <jcastro> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1t_55N1il3XoL8z-jfa1CBoSxzOQjC90cgSpCqx5wkH0/edit#
[07:08] <jcastro> thumper, ^^^
[07:09] <thumper> bac, fwereade: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1t_55N1il3XoL8z-jfa1CBoSxzOQjC90cgSpCqx5wkH0/edit#
[07:38] <bac> thumper: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1t_55N1il3XoL8z-jfa1CBoSxzOQjC90cgSpCqx5wkH0/edit#
[07:38] <bac> thumper: no, https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/IS/Mojo
[11:57] <stub> Tribaal: I think the non-corosync leader election stuff is still racy, in that you can have two or more units that think they are the leader running hooks at the same time.
[11:58] <Tribaal> stub: interesting, but how can that work?
[11:58] <Tribaal> stub: seems like "I am the unit with the smallest unit number" should be relatively easy to determine?
[11:59] <Tribaal> stub: or do you mean it races with the peer list fetching?
[11:59] <stub> A three unit cluster, units 2 and 3 have joined the peer relationship and happily running hooks. unit 1 is finally provisioned and joins the peer relation
[11:59] <Tribaal> ah
[11:59] <Tribaal> smartass units :)
[11:59] <stub> Last I checked, it is impossible to elect a leader reliably if you create a service with more than 2 units
[12:00]  * stub looks for the bug number
[12:00] <Tribaal> yeah, seems very dodgy to do so. I guess the decoumentation should reflect that, but the comments are still valid
[12:00] <Tribaal> stub: can we query the juju state server for the list of peers?
[12:00] <Tribaal> :)
[12:01] <stub> Tribaal: I haven't looked into unsupported mechanisms :)
[12:01] <Tribaal> stub: hehe
[12:01] <stub> Tribaal: I'm just sticking with the 'create 2 units, wait, then add more' as a documented limitation until juju gives us leader election
[12:01] <stub> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1258485
[12:02]  * Tribaal looks into how complex a corosync setup is
[12:02] <stub> Let me know, that might solve my issues too...
[12:03] <Tribaal> stub: seems like it would be generally useful, yes. seems like a job zookeeper would have handled well though
[12:03] <Tribaal> sorry if I'm breaking a taboo :)
[12:04] <stub> I think juju has the information we need, it just needs to be exposed to the charms ;)
[12:07] <Tribaal> stub: yeah
[12:07] <Tribaal> stub: ohh
[12:08] <Tribaal> stub: I think I have an idea :)
[12:09] <Tribaal> stub: I'll give it a spin when I'm on the beach this week and see if it can work
[12:10] <stub> Tribaal: I've proven to myself that it is impossible, and nobody has yet corrected me, but you are more than welcome to prove me wrong :)
[12:10] <stub> My test suite seems guaranteed to trigger the race conditions :)
[12:10] <Tribaal> stub: sweet!
[12:10] <Tribaal> stub: a reproductible race is half he battle already
[12:11] <Tribaal> s/he/the/
[12:49] <Tribaal> so, corosync uses multicast it seems
[12:49] <Tribaal> that comes with its own set of problems
[14:08] <tvansteenburgh> jacekn: hi, i'm working the charm review queue this week, do you have any updates for https://code.launchpad.net/~jacekn/charms/precise/rabbitmq-server/queue-monitoring/+merge/218580 ?
[14:11] <jacekn> tvansteenburgh: sorry no another team took over this project
[14:11] <jacekn> tvansteenburgh: I will let them know
[14:11] <tvansteenburgh> jacekn: ok thanks
[14:13] <bigtree> I am having an issue with the juju mongodb filling up my 8gb micro sd card -- is there a way I can periodically flush this db?
[14:59] <jamespage> dimitern, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7961799/
[15:00] <jamespage> dimitern, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7961802/
[15:06] <khuss> i'm creating a new charm my-nova-compute and it has to be installed on top of nova-compute. This means my-nova-compute has to be installed after installing nova-compute on the same machine. What kind of relationship can I use to achieve this?
[15:30] <rbasak> sinzui: did you sort that source tarball for me, please?
[15:31] <rbasak> sinzui: I was having connectivity issues, so don't know if I missed a URL.
[15:34] <sinzui> rbasak, I am so sorry. I forgot. http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/build-revision/1666/
[15:35] <rbasak> sinzui: no problem. Only getting to it now, as I wait on some very slow mysql tests :-/
[15:53] <rbasak> sinzui: are you free in eight minutes? The TB meeting has had some questions about Juju upstream QA for the exception request.
[15:53] <rbasak> sinzui: looks like it's dragged on for a while. If you could answer their questions, that might speed things up.
[15:53] <rbasak> sinzui: #ubuntu-meeting-2
[15:54] <sinzui> rbasak, I don't have time, sorry. I am sprinting and debating at this moment
[15:54] <rbasak> sinzui: OK, I'll try and do what I can.
[16:39] <hatch> anyone know why I would get this error when trying to bootstrap using local?
[16:39] <hatch> WARNING ignoring environments.yaml: using bootstrap config in file "/home/vagrant/.juju/environments/local.jenv"
[16:39] <hatch> 1.20.1-saucy-amd64
[16:40] <jcw4> hatch: I believe that's just a warning letting you know it's using the local.jenv instead of the environments.yaml
[16:41] <jcw4> hatch: if the local.jenv doesn't exist juju will create it the first time using environments.yaml as the template
[16:41] <jcw4> hatch: but after the local.jenv has been created, any changes in that section of the environments.yaml won't get picked up
[16:42] <hatch> ohh ok, it subsequently fails with:
[16:42] <hatch> ERROR Get http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8040/provider-state: dial tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:8040: connection refused
[16:42] <hatch> so I thought that might have been the problem
[16:43] <jcw4> hatch: hmm, that seems like an unrelated error.  Not sure what that one is
[16:44] <hatch> here is the full output https://gist.github.com/hatched/5849510b38afac01b6cf
[16:45] <hatch> not sure if that helps at all heh
[16:46] <jcw4> hatch: interesting.  The WARNING unknown config field "shared-storage-port" bit is interesting
[16:46] <jcw4> hatch: but I'm not sure it's related either
[16:46] <jcw4> hatch: I'm suspecting lxc issues maybe
[16:47] <jcw4> hatch: can you 'juju destroy-environment local' and 'juju bootstrap' again?
[16:47] <hatch> yeah i have to use --force though because it seems to have created a 'partial' env
[16:47] <hatch> the same issue happens
[16:47] <jcw4> hatch: hmm
[16:47] <hatch> yeah I'm at a loss at how to debug this heh
[16:48] <jcw4> hatch: I'm afraid I don't know much more than that.  What does 'sudo lxc-ls --fancy' show?
[16:48]  * jcw4 grasping at straws
[16:48] <hatch> a fancy empty table :)
[16:48] <jcw4> hmm; that's interesting.  I would expecte at least one row
[16:48] <hatch> after destroying?
[16:49] <abrimer> jamespage, are you available for a question?
[16:49] <hatch> jcw4 well thanks for the help, I'll keep poking around
[16:49] <jcw4> hatch: yeah, I think the 'juju-*-template'  would stay around
[16:50] <jcw4> hatch: yw... good luck :)
[16:50] <hatch> thanks - I'll need it haha
[16:51] <jcw4> hatch: lazyPower or marcoceppi or someone else may know better, if they're available right now
[16:51]  * lazyPower reads scrollback
[16:52] <lazyPower> hatch: do you have teh juju-plugins repository added?
[16:52] <lazyPower> there's a plugin to help clean this up and get you to a known good state - fresh from the cloud. juju-clean
[16:52] <hatch> lazyPower not sure....
[16:52] <hatch> unrecognized command
[16:52] <hatch> so probably not
[16:52] <lazyPower> https://github.com/juju/plugins
[16:53] <lazyPower> install instructions are in the README. just clone and add to $PATH
[16:53] <hatch> oh ok will try
[16:54] <themonk> how to view unit log in amazon instance?
[16:55] <lazyPower> themonk: either jujud ebug-log, or cat/tail/less it in /var/log/juju/unit-service-#.log
[16:55] <lazyPower> *juju debug-log
[16:55] <themonk> ok thanks :)
[16:57] <hatch> lazyPower I don't want to jinx it but it appears to be working now....
[16:57] <lazyPower> woo
[16:57] <hatch> so...was that caused by the upgrade path or something?
[16:57] <hatch> any idea why it was broken?
[16:57] <lazyPower> hard to say
[16:57] <lazyPower> local provider can be picky
[16:58] <hatch> is this plugins stuff in the docs? I couldn't find it, it definitely should be :)
[16:58] <lazyPower> nope
[16:58] <lazyPower> its very unofficial atm
[16:59] <themonk> lazyPower, its not there i have /var/log/juju-themonk-local it has only local unit log, i want amazon instance unit log
[16:59] <lazyPower> themonk: you need to juju ssh to the unit, then look for it in /var/log/juju
[17:00] <lazyPower> bbiaf, lunch
[17:01] <themonk> ok got it
[17:18] <natefinch> man, memtest is not fast
[17:51] <hatch> natefinch you're sure having bad luck lately :)
[17:56] <natefinch> probably same problem as before... I just thought it wasn't hardware, since the live disk worked, but maybe it's something specific to booting
[18:22] <lazyPower> natefinch: no sir
[18:22] <lazyPower> memtest is slooowwwww especially when you have quite a bit of it.
[18:23] <sarnold> heh, reminds me of the first time using it on a machine with 16 gigs.. "oh haha look how long this is going to take! *wait five minutes* oh. this is annoying."
[18:24] <lazyPower> haha, seems about right
[18:40] <natefinch> took an hour... no errors in the first pass though
[18:57] <abrimer> Can anyone help me with my quantum configuration for openstack using maas and juju?
[20:29] <npasqua> Hello all. Does anybody have experience using the hacluster charm? We received agent-state-info: 'hook failed: "ha-relation-changed/joined"' on most subordinates.
[20:48] <abrimer> jamespage, do you have a minute to help me with my quantum issue?
[20:54] <themonk> I am not getting anything after hitting amazon public-address i cant ping too !!!!
[20:55] <themonk> amazone dashbord shows me that instance are running
[20:57] <lazyPower> themonk: did you expose it?
[20:57] <themonk> lazyPower, yes
[20:57] <lazyPower> did you validate your security groups were modified to actually open the ports?
[20:57] <lazyPower> and its not some hiccup on the AWS API side of things?
[20:58] <themonk> 30 min ago it was ok
[20:58] <lazyPower> did your units public address change on you?
[20:58] <themonk> i just redeploy my charm
[20:59] <themonk> i use --to 2 so public address should not change
[20:59] <themonk> and it remain same
[21:00] <themonk> i just expose my amother service and i cant access it now too !!!


[00:35] <Roey> herro
[00:35] <Roey> lordievader:  hi!
[00:35] <Roey> was hoping you could help me out here
[00:35] <Roey> I don't see a Wacom service in the Startup services in System Settings
[01:31] <alesan> hello
[01:31] <alesan> I instellad Kubuntu 15.04 some days ago
[01:31] <alesan> I come from an earlier version of KDE
[01:31] <alesan> now I do not understand anything
[01:31] <alesan> how can I put an icon of konsole in the "tray area" so that I do not have to open the menu to launch it?
[01:32] <alesan> I tried to drag the icon there but nothing happnes
[01:32] <alesan> also, is it possible to use the "classic" version of the K menu'?
[01:38] <mparillo> Did you unlock your widgets? And if you right-click on the K, do you see a yellow star with Alternatives?
[01:42] <alesan> mparillo, what is "unlock widgets"?
[01:42] <alesan> let me try the second one
[01:42] <alesan> yes I see that yellow star, what is?
[01:42] <alesan> oh
[01:43] <alesan> the classic menu' :D yes good
[01:43] <alesan> but to add a quick launcher area?
[01:45] <alesan> it seems a pretty foundamental thing to me
[01:45] <alesan> also, how do I configure the login manager? Is it kdm?
[03:39] <socha> hello all,  i need some help. I have my root as btrfs, and i had installed apt-btrfs-snapshot. so duh, my snapshots filled everything up in 3 days smh. anyway, i just was able to delete a few using 'apt-btrfs-snapshot' (the same app I installed, no wonder it doesnt come by default!). Is there a way to delete all of the snapshots or do I have to go one by one by a thousand?
[03:40] <socha> i get the feeling uninstalling apt-btrfs wouldnt do the job for me..
[03:46] <socha> ah, found the answer and they're deleted now. new question, does btrfs create snapshots automatically or did it only start doing that after i installed apt-btrfs*?
[03:59] <socha> found the answer to that too. thanks for the help folks!
[04:00] <denza242> apt-btrfs?
[08:03] <kolionik> sudo add-apt-reposilry ppa:rvm/smplayer
[08:06] <soee> ;)
[08:11] <yossarianuk> t minus 7 days !
[08:42] <yossarianuk> happy birthday KDE! http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/the-kool-desktop-environment-kde-turns-19-happy-birthday-494577.shtml
[11:10] <lolmaus> I'm running Kubuntu 15.04. How do I install kdeutils? Aptitude can't find such package.
[11:11] <hateball> lolmaus: it's probably named differently in 15.04 (plasma 5) but perhaps you can "apt-cache search kdeutils"
[11:11] <hateball> I only have a 14.04 system handy atm, where it is indeed kdeutils
[11:24] <lolmaus> hateball: that command yields nothing
[11:26] <hateball> lolmaus: well then, perhaps those things have moved into a different package. what exactly are you missing?
[12:03] <jocke> Hi! Today I tried to install development packages for QT on my Kubuntu 15.04 due to a project, sadly this really screwed up my KDE desktop. Is there an easy way to force a complete reinstall of KDE? I really don't want to go down the "reinstall complete operating system" path.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:27] <n8w> hey guys, anyone havin an experience with firewalld?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> !firewall
[14:32] <BluesKaj> n8w,^
[14:34] <n8w> BluesKaj, hey, ye i know...ive been usin it for a long time...but firewalld seems to b much cooler
[14:37] <BluesKaj> n8w, dunno, I don't bother, I just use the default ufe default settings ...cooler doesn't mean more effective
[14:38] <BluesKaj> ufw
[14:38] <n8w> BluesKaj, gufw for the gui:)
[14:39] <n8w> BluesKaj, true that, what i meant by sayin its cooler is that it has got a better way of settings things up
[16:00] <ducnt25> h
[16:00] <ducnt25> hello
[16:06] <yossarianuk> hi - is the RC for 15.10 out today ?
[16:14] <audreeliss> yes
[16:14] <audreeliss> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/ubuntu-15-10-release-schedule-wily-werewolf
[16:21] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  heya!
[16:21] <EvilRoey> hello all
[16:22] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I looked and I did not see a Wacom service running under System Settings' startup services (though I do see it on my computer at work)
[16:22] <EvilRoey> I don't see it on my home ocmputer though
[16:22] <EvilRoey> where my tablet is
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Roey , it's no longer incuded in system settings>startup&shutdown>background services on 15.10
[16:50] <Khaotic_> anyone know how to set up media keys to work for spotify?
[17:05] <denza242> Khaotic_: media keys?
[17:05] <denza242> in what context
[17:07] <Khaotic_> multimedia keys on my keyboard
[17:07] <Khaotic_> but i figured it out
[17:07] <Khaotic_> dbus
[17:37] <denza242> so i have a question
[17:38] <denza242> see, my konqueror won't load the dolphin kpart
[17:38] <denza242> i believe this is because the dolphin kpart is: a. missing, b. incompatible with konqueror
[17:39] <denza242> so, if I find an older dolphin kpart and place that somewhere in my system where konqueror will load it, would that work/
[17:39] <denza242> ?
[18:13] <marco-parillo> audreeliss: I do not see it here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[18:31] <ejay> Hi all. Any cool ideas how to prevent new windows to be shown on secondary screen?
[19:14] <krise> something wrong with my graphics. 1. when i close my laptop lid and re open it, screen starts blinking and i have to restart computer. 2 sm player and vlc player or any other wont play video files like mp4 and avi. here is error message that sm player gives me https://paste.kde.org/pn9mgiwze
[19:15] <krise> please help
[19:22] <BluesKaj> krise, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:22] <BluesKaj> and ffmpeg
[19:24] <xela2244> hi, how can i add colors to konsole when i run python?
[19:24] <xela2244> i'm using kubuntu 15.04
[19:25] <obooklage> Hello all people ;)
[19:25] <xela2244> hello
[19:27] <obooklage> Since an apt-get upgrade on my kubuntu trusty, I can not use sudo any more (http://pastebin.com/uw8QWuHG) ; sudo just return is man page ! please, any idea ?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> obooklage, you have the terminal open in /var/log
[19:33] <krise> BluesKaj i installed restricted extras and ffmpeg was already latest version, still video files dont play
[19:36] <obooklage> BluesKaj: Ok, I cd to /var/log
[19:37] <BluesKaj> krise, which gpu and driver?
[19:37] <obooklage> BluesKaj: If I change cd to /home/obooklage is the same problem with sudo : it give is help
[19:40]  * denza242 is dance
[19:40] <denza242> i downgraded dolphin and now konqueror works
[19:43] <krise> BluesKaj , i have  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09), and using NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.93 from nvidia- 340 (recommended driver
[19:46] <krise> more detailed info https://paste.kde.org/pglwwzv75
[19:47] <BluesKaj> krise, is this a laptop?
[19:49] <krise> yes , samsund chronos 7
[19:49] <krise> g
[19:49] <BluesKaj> krise, you have an Optimus dual gpu hybrid system, you should have nvidia-prime installed.
[19:50] <krise> haw can i doo that
[19:50] <BluesKaj> install nvidia-prime
[19:53] <krise> nvidia prime is alredy the latest version
[19:57] <BluesKaj> krise, here's some hints how to set it up, http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[20:26] <sunny> hallo
[23:10] <Strav> anyone here trying out kubuntu 15.10?
[23:10] <Strav> (got two issues I wish to confirm)
[23:10] <genii> Strav: #ubuntu+1 for 15.10 until after it hits official release
[23:11] <genii> ( it's for Kubuntu and all the other variants as well )
[23:11] <Strav> genii: thanks! :) I'm off.
[23:39] <bulldawg> Hello everyone ,I am having trouble watching online videos because they lag.Youtube videos seem to play just fine?Is there something i could do?


[05:27] <theShirbiny> Good morning everyone
[05:59] <Kilos> hi theShirbiny CraigZim and all of africa
[05:59] <Kilos> when are you guys going to bring new peeps here
[06:57] <theShirbiny> Hey Kilos :) How are things now?
[06:57] <Kilos> ok ty theShirbiny and with you
[06:58] <theShirbiny> all good here too
[07:17] <CraigZim> Hello Kilos theShirbiny and all Africa
[07:26] <Kilos> hi Naeil


[06:12] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia: ping
[07:08] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: pong
[07:08] <bandb> hey
[07:09] <bandb> was wondering if we had some news we could use to fill out the UWN
[07:09] <bandb> LoCo or community news
[07:10] <Burgundavia> you could work on gutsy changes
[07:10] <bandb> any specific place to find that info?
[07:11] <Burgundavia> posts by major developers to -devel and -devel-discuss, as well as the gutsy-changes mailkng list
[07:11] <bandb> ok, I'll check them out
[07:12] <Burgundavia> I have some stuff I can add, just a sec
[07:12] <bandb> ok
[07:12] <Burgundavia> for the gutsy changes stuff, a generall overview
[07:12] <bandb> cool
[07:12] <Burgundavia> basically, gutsy development has opended, large parts of GNOME 2.19.1 are in
[07:12] <Burgundavia> sync from sid start3ed
[07:13] <bandb> sid is the debian unstable, right?
[07:13] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:14] <Burgundavia> do you think you can write about that? do I need to help you get enough info?
[07:14] <Burgundavia> as most of this information comes as easy to me as breathing...
[07:14] <bandb> let me look through the lists myself, I'll ask if I need help
[07:14] <bandb> lol, ok, if you want to just list stuff, I can write it up, whatever works
[07:15] <bandb> is there any info about UDS?
[07:15] <Burgundavia> nothing yet
[07:16] <bandb> or ubucon
[07:16] <poningru> I'm still sooo confused about the number of conferences and what they are for
[07:16] <Burgundavia> ubucon is the community day
[07:16] <Burgundavia> ues is for education and is the previous week
[07:17] <Burgundavia> uds is for the hardcore spec hacking
[07:17] <poningru> ah ic
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> when is uds again?
[07:17] <bandb> next weekend
[07:17] <bandb> may 5th
[07:17] <Burgundavia> 6th-11th
[07:17] <poningru> same location consecutive time right?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:20] <Burgundavia> bandb: if you need help, ping me
[07:20] <bandb> Burgundavia: ok
[07:21] <bandb> poningru: if you want to work on it, its on gobby
[07:21] <poningru> awesome
[07:47] <bandb> hi beuno
[07:47] <beuno> hey bandb
[07:47] <beuno> I just got home after 16 hours of installing ubuntu
[07:47] <bandb> installfest?
[07:47] <beuno> I'm going to bed no matter what
[07:47] <beuno> :D
[07:48] <bandb> haha
[07:48] <beuno> I'll *try* and be here tomorrow to help release
[07:48] <bandb> thats cool
[07:48] <beuno> bandb: http://beuno.com.ar/archives/16
[07:49] <beuno> I'm going to bed
[07:49] <bandb> yummy cookies
[07:49] <beuno> :D
[07:49] <bandb> later
[07:49] <beuno> cookies where great!
[07:49] <beuno> cya tomorrow!
[07:49] <Burgundavia> beuno: you want to send it out tonight or tomorrow?
[07:49] <Burgundavia> or shall I send it out tonight?
[07:56] <BHSPitMonkey> wassup
[08:01] <beuno> Burgundavia: I'm sleeping, so can I look through it tomorrow?
[08:03] <Burgundavia> sure, that woe
[08:03] <Burgundavia> works
[08:04] <beuno> :)   thanks,  night!
[08:06] <bandb> Burgundavia: i added a blurb about gutsy, I don't see anything in lists about gnome though. Also, I added the gutsy changes since the feisty release to the updates section. Should I add the previous ones as well? I think there 200 other packages.
[08:12] <Burgundavia> bandb: previous ones?
[08:12] <Burgundavia> bandb: I can write the section
[08:13] <bandb> Burgundavia: let me rephrase, should I add 232 packages to the update list?
[08:13] <Burgundavia> nope
[08:14] <Burgundavia> I will write the section, as I have a vision for how they should be done and it is not quite as the previous times
[08:15] <bandb> ok, I started adding packages from the gusty-changes list to the updates and security section
[08:15] <Burgundavia> hmm, that isn't where they go
[08:15] <bandb> nm, ignore that
[08:15] <bandb> i'm smoking crack
[08:15] <Burgundavia> that section is for stable releases
[08:15] <Burgundavia> :)
[08:15] <bandb> yeah, I thought I had...I need some caffeine
[08:16] <bandb> mountain dew to the rescue
[08:16] <bandb> ok then...anything else we need?
[08:18] <Burgundavia> just the gutsy section
[08:18] <Burgundavia> I will add it
[08:18] <Burgundavia> have you copied back from gobby?
[08:18] <bandb> yes
[08:19] <Burgundavia> as usual, you rock
[08:19] <bandb> you want me to do bugstats or wait?
[08:19] <Burgundavia> sure, you can do them
[08:19] <bandb> ok
[08:44] <bandb> bug stats are in, added some changes to the updates, looks like the ubuntu site is down
[08:44] <bandb> main site
[08:44] <bandb> and gobby is update to date as well
[12:56] <juliux> good morning
[12:57] <jenda> mornin'
[12:57] <juliux> hey jenda
[12:57] <jenda> juliux: two more shit orders have come, making it a total of 9 :)
[12:57] <juliux> how are youe?
[12:57] <juliux> jenda, cool
[12:58] <nothlit> jenda: what orders?
[12:58] <jenda> arrgh
[12:58] <jenda> SHIRT
[12:58] <jenda> :)
[12:58] <juliux> nothlit, take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418314
[12:58] <juliux> ;)
[12:58] <jenda> typo :)
[12:58] <juliux> jenda, you are dealing with shit?
[12:59] <juliux> is it a good business in cz?
[12:59] <jenda> yo, stickers, posters 'n' shit, ya know what i'ma sayin'?
[12:59] <juliux> lol
[08:09] <mrmonday> anyone here know any developers of ubuntu?
[08:11] <vorian> mrmonday, try #ubuntu-devel
[08:11] <mrmonday> thanks
[08:30] <beuno> *yawn*
[08:30] <beuno> I'll get started on UWN
[08:30] <bandb> beuno: were you dreaming of the cookies?
[08:31] <beuno> bandb: lol, I actually lost my voice yesterday "talking" with a couple of debian developers
[08:31] <beuno> :p
[08:31] <bandb> nice
[08:31] <beuno> jenda: ping?
[08:46] <tsmithe> jenda is away
[08:46] <tsmithe> it's annoying me :P
[08:47] <bandb> beuno: let me know if you need something done for the UWN
[08:47] <vorian> I have -locoteams!
[08:47] <vorian> s/have/hate
[08:47] <vorian> !
[08:47] <bandb> why
[08:47] <vorian> =]
[08:47] <vorian> hey tsmithe
[08:48] <tsmithe> hi :P
[08:48] <MenZa> serves you right for using that.
[08:48] <MenZa> ;D
[08:48] <vorian> bored (b) and blogging (B)
[08:48] <vorian> ?
[08:48] <vorian> :)
[08:49] <beuno> haha
[08:49] <bandb> yeah, on my laptop instead of my desktop where I'm logged in
[08:49] <tsmithe> MenZa, i was using weechat
[08:49] <vorian> nice
[08:49] <tsmithe> which is way better
[08:49] <MenZa> mmmirssi.
[08:49] <tsmithe> irssi annoys me more than weechat does, so i use weechat
[08:49] <vorian> bandb, bureaucracy and the loco community as a whole.
[09:52] <Burgundavia> beuno: you around
[09:52] <Burgundavia> ?
[09:52] <beuno> Burgundavia: yeap, trying to finish off the UWN
[09:53] <beuno> can you take a peak at it and see if the LoCo news bit I put in isn't too biased?
[09:53] <Burgundavia> beuno: sure, I have some gutsy writing to do as well
[09:54] <beuno> great
[09:55] <beuno> why are the "In The Press" article with a different format?
[09:55] <Burgundavia> in what sense?
[09:56] <beuno> it used to be a [09:57] <beuno> oh, no, the "* " is new
[09:57] <bandb> i think someone started using them last week
[09:57] <bandb> kinda looked nice
[09:57] <bandb> at least on the wiki
[09:59] <beuno> right, I don't have anything against them, just curious
[10:00] <beuno> Burgundavia: any idea for the "Community Spotlight"?
[10:00] <bandb> yeah, I just kept doing them
[10:01] <Burgundavia> not really
[10:03] <beuno> I can write about how the Argentina LoCo practically ran the whole installfest (our of 86 installs, 3 where non-ubuntu), but again, super biased  :D
[11:27] <Burgundavia> beuno: you editing?
[11:35] <Tm_T> juliux: ping!
[11:35] <juliux> Tm_T, pong
[11:36] <Tm_T> juliux: if I send now that shirt order, I can change one detail tomorrow if needed?
[11:36] <juliux> Tm_T, you can change it
[11:36] <Tm_T> ok, I send it now and hope it's ok already ;)
[11:37] <juliux> ok
[11:39] <Netboy541> what is this spickity-smack i hear about POSTERS?
[11:39] <juliux> Netboy541, ask jenda ;)
[11:39] <Netboy541> do we have some pictures?
[11:40] <Tm_T> Netboy541: yes, wanna see my pic?
[11:40] <Netboy541> not those pictures Tm_T
[11:40] <Netboy541> :P
[11:40] <Tm_T> why not?!
[11:41] <Tm_T> juliux: ok, I think all is ok already
[11:41] <Tm_T> sent
[11:43] <juliux> Tm_T, only white shirts?
[11:44] <Tm_T> only white
[11:44] <Netboy541> do you guys do kubuntu stuff too?
[11:44] <juliux> Tm_T, so you can camouflage your self in the snow;)
[11:44] <Tm_T> juliux: exactly, you know how blind those polarbears can be
[11:45] <juliux> Tm_T, hehe
[12:06] <profoX`> hi juliux, I am going to order ubuntu shirts/polo's for the Ubuntu-BE team.. can you tell me what I have to do and do you have an idea how much everything will cost (and shipping to Belgium?)
[12:06] <juliux> hi profoX`
[12:07] <juliux> profoX`, did you see the forum post?
[12:07] <profoX`> hi :)
[12:07] <profoX`> juliux: nope
[12:07] <profoX`> juliux: where?
[12:07] <juliux> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418314
[12:07] <juliux> there it is
[12:07] <profoX`> one moment, I'll go read it through
[12:08] <juliux> profoX`, shipping costs: 2kg ==8.60, 5kg==17,00
[12:08] <juliux> profoX`, i think 2-3 shirts are one 1kg


[06:26] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <kaziweb> hi, I'm creating Ubuntu loco team for Qatar. I've just registered "#ubuntu-qr" in freenode already. May i get any help from any one to proceed further?
[08:07] <czajkowski> kaziweb: hey there
[08:07] <czajkowski> what kinda help do you need
[08:07] <kaziweb> hi
[08:07] <czajkowski> if you need the channel logged AlanBell will know more about that
[08:07] <kaziweb> I've just registered a channel "#ubuntu-qr"
[08:07] <czajkowski> I approved your request to the locoteams on launchpad
[08:07] <tsimpson> it really should be #ubuntu-qa
[08:07] <czajkowski> yes this has come up
[08:07] <AlanBell> yeah, I can sort out logging
[08:07] <czajkowski> but there is an ubuntu-qa
[08:08] <kaziweb> thanks
[08:08] <tsimpson> indeed
[08:08] <czajkowski> as thats where the QA team is
[08:08] <czajkowski> so we need to figure out a plan there
[08:08] <czajkowski> and we did point this out to the team a while back
[08:08] <kaziweb> sure
[08:08] <tsimpson> there's always the option to move the current -qa to -qa-team
[08:08] <kaziweb> ic
[08:08] <kaziweb> I didn't see it b4
[08:08] <czajkowski> tsimpson: nods that is what I'd prefer as all locoteams should be the same and the ISO codes are meant to be used by them
[08:09] <tsimpson> kaziweb: you may find this page useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels to get you started
[08:09] <czajkowski> but will need to find someone on the QA team to discuss
[08:09] <czajkowski> kaziweb: tsimpson can you both pm your email addresses and I'l draft a mail shortly about this
[08:09] <AlanBell> hmm, that is a bit of a pain isn't it, especially as xchat joins #ubuntu-<iso code> by default
[08:09] <czajkowski> AlanBell: yup
[08:09] <czajkowski> I'll go to talk to the QA folks after this
[08:09] <czajkowski> but I have stand up now
[08:10] <kaziweb> ok
[08:10] <kaziweb> just advise me should I go ahead?
[08:10] <AlanBell> is the launchpad/ltp stuff sorted for quatar?
[08:10] <AlanBell> kaziweb: this is fine, we just have an issue with the Quality Assurance team sitting in the channel that you should be in  :)
[08:10] <tsimpson> kaziweb: you can go ahead, we can always "fix" things once they're set up
[08:11] <kaziweb> that's gr8!
[08:16] <kaziweb> I think "#ubuntu-qa" is a team for Quality Assurance not for Qatar loco team. Qatar ISO code is also "QA" so I don't understand wt to do next. I've done all with Ubuntu-QR. If you want it to change to QA this will be conflicting with Ubuntu QA team i think.
[08:18] <AlanBell> exactly, but don't worry, we will sort it out
[08:18] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qr is the loco team portal page
[08:19] <AlanBell> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qr is the launchpad page, so consistently -qr :)
[08:20] <kaziweb> yes you are right
[08:20] <tsimpson> AlanBell: probably because ~ubuntu-qa is taken by the QA team
[08:20] <kaziweb> yes
[08:20] <AlanBell> heh, they are everywhere!
[08:20] <tsimpson> now LP is involved, things just got a little more complicated...
[08:20] <kaziweb> everywhere is ubuntu-qr
[08:21] <AlanBell> ok, well I guess the QA team will just have to politely redirect Qatari people landing in their channel from xchat
[08:21] <AlanBell> or get them involved in quality assurance :)
[08:21] <kaziweb> ok
[08:22] <czajkowski> bugger
[08:23] <kaziweb> but do you think this will be safe for QA team? I think this might create disturbance for the quality team.
[08:24] <tsimpson> it doesn't look like the QA team really use #ubuntu-qa, it's set to forward to #ubuntu-testing
[08:24] <tsimpson> so they already have a separate channel
[08:24] <czajkowski> let me go talk to the team owner
[08:24] <czajkowski> and sort it out
[08:24] <kaziweb> please
[08:25] <czajkowski> I've poked people in ubuntu-testing
[08:26] <AlanBell> ok, give me a shout when it is settled and you know where the logbot needs to go
[08:27] <czajkowski> wilko
[08:29] <kaziweb> if you want me to delete lunchpad team and create it in with ubuntu-qa, i'm ready to do it.
[08:31] <czajkowski> sorting it out
[08:31] <czajkowski> just be patient
[08:31] <czajkowski> it may take a few hours
[08:31] <czajkowski> I'll also need to do some renaming on laucnhpad when it's done
[08:31] <kaziweb> OK, I'll be waiting for you advise.
[10:32] <kaziweb> czajkowski: my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:33] <kaziweb> AlanBell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:34] <kaziweb> kindly let me know if any result.
[10:39] <czajkowski> will do
[12:29] <kaziweb> @czajkowski: any update from "ubuntu-qa"? I found it forwards to "ubuntu-testing"
[12:30] <czajkowski> kaziweb: no it wont be till later today we need USA folks online which wont be for a few hours
[12:30] <czajkowski> as s oon as I know you will
[12:30] <kaziweb> ok Bro.
[14:56] <bkerensa> Good Morning
[15:04] <czajkowski> kaziweb: ok making progress on the issue should have it resolved by tomrorow for you
[15:05] <kaziweb> that's gr8!! Thanks a lot my Brother. Should I contact you tomorrow?
[15:06] <kaziweb> Do you think we will get "ubuntu-qa"?
[15:06] <paultag> Woo! Did Quatar claim ubuntu-qa?
[15:06] <paultag> erm, Qatar
[15:06] <paultag> crud, sorry.
[15:17] <czajkowski> kaziweb: yes
[15:17] <czajkowski> working on that now
[15:17] <czajkowski> lots of people to poke
[15:17] <czajkowski> AlanBell: they're good to have ubuntu-qa on irc
[15:18] <czajkowski> kaziweb: what is the current URL of your team in LP please
[15:18] <kaziweb> one munite
[15:19] <kaziweb> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qr
[15:19] <czajkowski> ok
[15:19] <paultag> one member, and qr - what's Qatar's official ISO country name?
[15:19] <paultag> I thought it was qa, and ubuntu-qa is free
[15:19] <czajkowski> kaziweb: in order to proceed I need to delete the mailing list
[15:19] <czajkowski> paultag: yes we know
[15:19] <paultag> kk
[15:19] <czajkowski> it's been a long morning
[15:20] <czajkowski> paultag: where's my taffey
[15:20] <kaziweb> sure no problem
[15:20] <kaziweb> please go ahead.
[15:20] <paultag> czajkowski: it'll be on it's way when I get home, still very much hungover
[15:20] <czajkowski> kaziweb: I kept the message of what you said
[15:20] <czajkowski> Welcome to the Launchpad page of Ubuntu Qatar!
[15:20] <czajkowski> This team's aim is to create a solid platform for all Qatari National and Resident Ubuntu users, where they can teach and learn by helping each other, share ideas and experiences, and most importantly promote the use of Ubuntu to home users, offices, and educational institutions.
[15:20] <czajkowski> Our Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QatariTeam
[15:20] <czajkowski> ok need to wait for it to be queued
[15:20] <kaziweb> ok
[15:20] <czajkowski> paultag: pah!
[15:20] <paultag> czajkowski: dude!
[15:21] <czajkowski> sweet!
[15:22] <kaziweb> Wiki page is not developed yet. I've just created it yesterday. Today I didn't change anything. It is just a draft.
[15:22] <czajkowski> that was for the mailing list
[15:22] <czajkowski> I have it queued to delete
[15:23] <kaziweb> I'll complete it very fast.
[15:23] <czajkowski> and I cant rename it til it goes.
[15:23] <kaziweb> ok
[15:29] <AlanBell> #ubuntu-qa is basically set up now
[15:29] <AlanBell> kaziweb: you are set as an operator
[15:29] <AlanBell> I will do the request for the logbot
[15:31] <kaziweb> thanks a lot
[15:31] <AlanBell> done, Ticket 20523
[15:31] <AlanBell> you don't need to worry about that now, it will turn up in a few days
[15:31] <kaziweb> ok
[15:33] <kaziweb> So, From now on I can publish and mention "#ubuntu-qa" everywhere. M I right?
[15:34] <czajkowski> yup
[15:34] <czajkowski> and I'm working on the LP side of things
[15:34] <kaziweb> wow gr8!
[15:35] <kaziweb> waiting to see that like crazy!!!
[15:38] <bkerensa> \o/ Ubuntu Qatar
[15:42] <kaziweb> I'm actually excited!!
[15:42] <czajkowski> heh yay
[15:43] <czajkowski> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa
[15:43] <czajkowski> :)
[15:44] <czajkowski> not bad for a days work
[15:44] <czajkowski> kaziweb: you can now set up a mailing list again
[15:44] <kaziweb> Blv me I never expected this much help from you guys. You are awesome!!!
[15:44] <czajkowski> kaziweb: np
[15:44] <czajkowski> if you nee any more help please just ask
[15:45] <kaziweb> Sure . I will need lot of helps from you for Qatar.
[15:45] <czajkowski> kaziweb: you might want to think adding "loco" to your name in front of team also
[15:45] <czajkowski> kaziweb: you can mail the !lococouncil
[15:45] <czajkowski> hmm
[15:45] <kaziweb> haha
[15:45]  * czajkowski pokes the bot
[15:45] <czajkowski> AlanBell: the bot is dead
[15:45] <czajkowski> !lococouncil
[15:45] <ubot2> The Loco Council is huats, czajkowski, greg-g, itnet7, SergioMeneses and xdatap1 - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:46] <czajkowski> ah there we go
[15:46] <czajkowski> kaziweb: ^^
[15:46] <AlanBell> it was just resting
[15:46] <kaziweb> haha ok.
[15:46] <bkerensa> heh
[15:49] <kaziweb> I'm ignore about the bot you saying. Where is the bot?
[15:50] <czajkowski> kaziweb: ubot2
[15:50] <AlanBell> different bot :)
[15:51] <AlanBell> there is a bot that does channel logging, and ubot2 which does factoids and stuff here
[15:54] <kaziweb> I found ubot2. I'm using xChat. how to poke it? and wt are the next course of actions to do with it? Please.
[15:54] <AlanBell> you don't need to do anything :)
[15:55] <kaziweb> ok
[15:57] <cprofitt> nice to see we have a ubuntu-qa, thanks kaziweb
[15:57] <kaziweb> Mailing list is set.
[15:57] <kaziweb> Thanks cprofitt. all the credit goes to czajkowski and AlanBell.
[15:58] <kaziweb> I hope very soon Ubuntu users will join here in this team.
[15:59] <kaziweb> Now I can promote and start publishing.
[15:59] <czajkowski> kaziweb: once you're logged in on loco.ubuntu.com
[15:59] <czajkowski> you'll need to merge
[15:59] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qr
[15:59] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qa
[15:59] <czajkowski> as they appear twice
[16:00] <kaziweb> ok
[16:09] <kaziweb><EMAIL_ADDRESS><-- is this my mailing URL?
[16:09] <czajkowski> yes
[16:09] <czajkowski> to post to
[16:10] <czajkowski> kaziweb: some teams prefer https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Ubuntu+Worldwide+LoCo+Teams
[16:10] <czajkowski> you might want to look at  that
[16:12] <spook_> hello
[16:12] <spook_> hello
[16:12] <spook_> testing
[16:13] <spook_> 1,2,3
[16:13] <spook_> helllo
[16:14] <spook_> anybody there
[16:14] <spook_> i need some help for upgrading my kubuntu12.04
[16:14] <kaziweb> I'm updating local team portal. So, I'm going to put this url:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Ubuntu+Worldwide+LoCo+Teams
[16:15] <kaziweb> I found ubuntu-qa inside that. also.
[16:15] <kaziweb> czajkowski: should I go ahead?
[16:16] <spook_> can i ask my problem here
[16:16] <spook_> ??
[16:16] <czajkowski> kaziweb: not sure what you mean
[16:16] <czajkowski> spook_: this isn't a help channel
[16:16] <czajkowski> let me ind you the right place
[16:16] <spook_> oops
[16:16] <spook_> sry
[16:17] <kaziweb> I'm updating Local team portal with information. there is one field asking to put Ubuntu-qa mailing list.
[16:17] <czajkowski> spook_: #kubuntu
[16:17] <czajkowski> kaziweb: ah ok
[16:18] <czajkowski> kaziweb: so the URL I gave you was to show you teams that use mailman instead of LP lists
[16:18] <czajkowski> if you want to use LP lists you'll need to put the LP ID in there
[16:18] <czajkowski> but in order to post people need to join your team
[16:19] <kaziweb> which one will be better? should I put the link you gave me?
[16:19] <czajkowski> no the link I gave you means yyou look at the options that lists ALL teams worldwide
[16:19] <kaziweb> Off course I want people to join in my team.
[16:20] <czajkowski> some teams do it differently
[16:20] <czajkowski> mailman provodes other fetures LP doesnt
[16:20] <czajkowski> it really is up to you
[16:28] <kaziweb> czajkowski:I've updated that.  now please let me know how do it marge both two url
[16:28] <kaziweb> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qa
[16:28] <kaziweb> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qr
[16:28] <czajkowski> so I think once you're logged in you should see a merge this team on top
[16:29] <czajkowski> mhall119: ^^^
[16:34] <kaziweb> I don't see it.
[16:35] <czajkowski> hmm unsure then
[16:35] <czajkowski> have asked mhall119 so he might look or know more
[16:56] <mhall119> kaziweb: are you an admin on both?
[16:57] <mhall119> czajkowski: is the old team still a member of ~locoteams?
[17:02] <czajkowski> mhall119: it;s a rename
[17:03] <mhall119> czajkowski: ok, we'll have to wait for LTP to de-activate the old one on the next team sync, then it should be available to merge
[17:06] <kaziweb> mhall119: I've created ubuntu-qr, and also got operator for "ubuntu-qa" but we need "ubutu-qa" full right for Qatar LoCo Team.
[17:07] <kaziweb> mhall119: sorry. I'm admin on both.
[17:45] <mhall119> kaziweb: once the old one is de-activated in LTP, it should have the merge link


[02:36] <vindex> hello
[02:36] <vindex> ive built a vanilla 3.2.10 kernel with perf enabled, since i wnated to use the performance counters for a personal project
[02:37] <vindex> with make-kpkg i get the different deb packages, however the perf tool consistently fails the symbol test
[02:37] <vindex> if i boot the same kernel with qemu and into a debian/ubuntu qemu image, the perf tool works fine
[03:43] <vindex> can the linux-tools packages get built through make-kpkg as well?
[06:27] <bullgard4_> '~$ nmon' > r prints: " Linux: Linux version 2.6.32-38-generic (buildd@zirconium)." Is »buildd« the username of a computer named »zirconium«? What kind of user is that?
[08:15]  * apw yawns ... another 80MB of updates
[08:16] <ppisati> moin
[08:17] <apw> ppisati, morning
[08:18] <smb> morning... lots of fun to look forward to
[08:22] <apw> smb, a shiney new unity ... i wonder what fun that brings ... any guess where the keys are today
[08:22]  * smb needs to install the shiny thing to know...
[08:24]  * apw watches it install ... excitemente
[08:24] <smb> apw, At least nothing gets removed... I think I saw in the upload mails that this will be famous 5.6 we have all been waiting for...
[08:25] <apw> yeah what did 5.6 contains that we needed ?  was that the alt not being annoying one ?
[08:26]  * ppisati loves the smell of apw's positivty wrt to unity in the morning :)
[08:27] <smb> apw, yes I think so (or generally the "even without multitouch you can press two keys at once, now stop giving me the help screen on super+something"
[08:28] <apw> new flash it seems in the bargain
[08:28] <amitk> apw: hehe. Over on this side of the fence, work has ground to halt as everyone upgrades the galaxy s2 phones to Android 4.x and deals with the consequences :)
[08:28] <apw> heheh ... that sounds fun
[08:29]  * ppisati -> reboot
[08:29] <apw>     - Dash - update Dash keyboard shortcuts so the 'CTRL + TAB' switches
[08:29] <apw>       between Lenses and 'TAB' by itself moves the focus between categories
[08:29] <apw> new keybindings ...
[08:30] <apw>     - Alt+Tab default delay of 150ms is too long (LP: #888636)
[08:31] <apw>     - Numbers on Launcher icons sticking (LP: #942359)
[08:31] <ppisati> so far, so good
[08:31]  * apw reboots to get the new shiney
[08:32]  * smb wonders whether you need fps experience to have the reflexes required to operate it...
[08:37] <ppisati> unity2d: works here, still no overlay shortcut text and (thanks God) still no launcher on the second screen (with that bloody sticky edge)
[08:38]  * smb ready to do the same (reboot)
[08:42] <apw> well i was able to reboot and login ...
[08:43] <apw> glad to see they havent fixed the help
[08:44] <smb> at least it does not come up when you press super+alt...
[08:45] <ppisati> btw, did you see that the unity/UX/usability/$something_team is running a poll about multi screen setup + multi launcher setup?
[08:45] <apw> ppisati, nope, where is that as i want to be chosing
[08:45] <ppisati> you can even vote AGAINST sticky edge on the second screen and multi panel setup
[08:45] <ppisati> hold on
[08:46] <ppisati> nope
[08:46] <apw> ppisati, though asking me to chose when i can only try one of them is a bit daft
[08:46] <ppisati> actually the poll is "omg ubuntu" made for the unity team
[08:46] <ppisati> big cockup... :P
[08:47] <apw> oh so that won't have any input then
[08:47] <ppisati> yep :(
[08:48]  * ppisati curls in sadness in a corner, you can't stop the sticky screeny edge, they will assimilate us...
[08:48] <apw> heheh
[08:48] <smb> Hm, still got the issue that clicking on an existing app in launcher moves the app and not the viewport... :/
[08:48] <smb> at least for some of them
[08:48] <apw> smb, i still get launcher and help on pressing super-alt together if super is the first key that closes ... however short a time
[08:56] <smb> apw, Yes, true. same here
[08:57]  * apw also notes the resize space round a window has stopped working so you have to hit the 1px again
[08:58] <jk-> alt+right drag?
[08:58] <smb> apw, hm there seems to be some space to left and bottom at least
[08:58] <apw> jk-, oh i know how to get round it, but i doubt its expected to have gone
[08:59] <apw> smb, not for me
[08:59] <smb> to the right as well if only that stupid hidden scrollbar would not be
[09:00] <smb> top is only 1px...
[09:00] <apw> not any side for me, i have 1px and 1px only everywhere
[09:00] <smb> apw, the special apw settings ...?
[09:00] <apw> perhaps so .. sigh
[09:01] <smb> apw, Or maybe... is that on a external screen?
[09:02] <apw> nope all of 'em
[09:04] <smb> Just was wondering whether the issue rises because there is more than one screen, which I do not have
[09:07]  * apw doesn't really care ... i have it ... and so a bug i will file
[09:08] <smb> Given the speed of updates one feels like the white rabbit... I am too late for updates... I am too late for updates...
[09:47] <ppisati>  /msg smb ping
[09:47] <ppisati> ops
[09:48] <smb`> apw, For fun I did bug 953858
[09:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 953858 in unity "Selecting running app in launcher moves app not viewport" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953858
[09:49] <apw> oh thats oss as it does not do that smb`
[09:49] <apw> (for me)
[09:50] <apw> heh .. that looks odd indeed
[09:50] <apw> mention the bug on #ubuntu-unity
[09:50] <smb`> apw, Since you said you do not use multiple desktops that much, you would less likely. And it does not seem to happen with all applications
[09:51] <apw> oh dear thats most odd, oh yeah and i would have to start using them to hit it
[10:24] <apw> ppisati, in your precise/ti-omap4 rebase i see two commits i am not expecting ... right at the bottom of your delta ...
[10:24] <apw> ppisati, UBUNTU: SAUCE: ata_piix: defer to the Hyper-V drivers by default
[10:24] <apw> ppisati, UBUNTU: ubuntu: nx-emy - i387: NX emulation
[10:25] <apw> ppisati, i am not expecting either of those to be in your delta
[10:25] <apw> ppisati, if you concur i can just rebase them out of existance
[10:38] <ppisati> apw: let me check
[10:41] <apw> sudo aa-disable sbin.dhclient
[10:46] <ppisati> apw: go ahead with those two commits, seems i rebased on master
[10:46] <ppisati> apw: and these were there
[10:46] <apw> ppisati, so drop them yes
[10:53] <ppisati> flag
[11:18]  * apw takes that as a yes
[11:19] <ppisati> apw: yes
[12:14] <apw> ppisati, ok uploaded ...
[12:16] <apw> ppisati, and i've prepared linux-meta ready for when its built
[12:25] <ppisati> apw: cool
[12:25]  * ppisati fails to understand poll() and decides it's time for lunch()
[12:51] <apw> cking, about ?  your ecryptfs patches presumably are for arm too
[12:52] <cking> apw, yep and yep
[12:57] <apw> cking, applied and applied
[12:57] <cking> ta
[13:55]  * apw lunches
[14:15] <ogasawara> apw: just fyi, I've rebased master-next to v3.2.10 which happened to also include the fix for CVE-2012-1146 you pushed
[14:15] <ubot2`> ogasawara: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-1146)
[14:27] <brendand> if i have a 2GB DIMM installed on a system and /proc/meminfo is only reporting 1653076 kB for MemTotal, what accounts for the lost megabytes?
[14:43]  * ogasawara back in 20
[14:59] <jsalisbury> **
[14:59] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[14:59] <jsalisbury> **
[15:23] <apw> jsalisbury, thats in 2 hours from your announcement right
[15:24] <jsalisbury> apw, correct.
[15:25] <jsalisbury> apw, it's an hour later in the US now due to the recent daylight time change.
[15:25] <smb> weeks of confusion have begun :)
[15:25] <apw> jsalisbury, thought so ... just checking you were on the same page as me
[15:33] <smb> bjf, uploading :(
[15:34] <bjf> smb, heh
[15:38] <arges> jsalisbury, did I lose audio?
[15:38] <jsalisbury> arges, I don't think so
[15:42] <henrix> apw: still under analysis, but i would say bugs 922906 and 924400 are the same
[15:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 922906 in linux "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000009c" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922906
[15:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 924400 in linux "kernel NULL pointer dereference at<PHONE_NUMBER>0001f0" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924400
[15:42] <henrix> apw: (can't speak on mumble!!!)
[15:43] <henrix> apw: i've been looking at these bugs, and they seem to be a common issue w/ unmount and inotify
[15:44] <apw> smb, whats your trick for fixing speaking on mumble
[15:44] <smb> either restart
[15:44] <smb> or change output from pulse to alsa and back
[15:44] <henrix> heh i'll try that one. actually, it looks like my push-to-speak keys are not working...
[15:44] <apw> umount and inotify ... hmm ... that rings a bell, i wonder if there was someting committed to linus recently
[15:45] <apw> henrix, ahh did you add a keyboard since mumble started, that can break PPT keys
[15:45] <smb> henrix, That sometimes seems to be because mumble tries to play something but cannot
[15:47] <henrix> well, it's working now!
[15:47] <henrix> thanks
[15:48] <apw> its basically a frigile POS ...
[16:09] <apw> bjf, i see a small formatting error in 'eCryptfs: Copy up lower inode attrs after setting lower xattr'
[16:09] <apw> bjf, and i'd like to rebuild tip to fix it (buglink is missing prefix)
[16:10] <bjf> apw, wfm
[16:10] <bjf> apw, master or master-next ?
[16:10] <apw> this is master-next
[16:10] <bjf> apw, series?
[16:10] <apw> master is 'tough its done'
[16:10] <bjf> apw, you can do anything to master-next :-)
[16:10] <apw> bjf, i need to check lucid natty and oneiric
[16:10] <apw> just you are pushing too :)
[16:12] <bjf> apw, we should be done now, i fixed a commit for colin this a.m. and am done
[16:13] <apw> bjf, ahh i see now, its actually an upstream link so its as intended...
[16:16] <apw> cking, ok your patches for bug #926292 didn
[16:16] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 926292 in linux "automake distdir.test fails because of an EPERM error" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926292
[16:16] <apw> didn't have a proper buglink, most are already past the point of fixing, so you'll have to move them Fix Released manually ...
[16:17] <cking> ack
[16:22]  * apw gets blinded by the sun ... gah
[16:22]  * ogasawara throws a snowball at apw
[16:23]  * apw gets snow blinded as well
[16:26]  * smb doubts it would hit apw at all (being melted before ;-))
[16:29]  * apw lobs an iceburg in smb's direction
[16:31]  * smb wonders how that castle looks like
[16:31] <smb> (burg being castle in de)
[16:32] <apw> heavy and inbound
[16:33] <apw> ogasawara, do they even build test upstream stable ...
[16:33] <ogasawara> apw: apparently not
[16:33] <smb> apw, sometimes it feels like "he" claims he does
[16:33] <apw> so much for the claims of testing it
[16:34]  * jussi hides from the snow fight...
[16:34]  * apw gets out big digger and uses it to heave a 25 tonne snow drift onto jussi
[16:34] <smb> apw, Question is what config is used (something like make alldontcareconfig)
[16:34] <apw> allnoconfig perhaps
[16:35] <ogasawara> heh
[16:35] <apw> if it wasn't so hard to consume they could let us autobuild the -rcs for stable
[16:35] <jussi> apw: be nice! :(
[16:35] <apw> oh no, that might be seen as contributing and he cannot be seen letting us to do that
[16:36] <smb> apw, The trigger may be hard. Though the queue is applicable when the review starts
[16:37] <smb> git quiltimport --patches=<foo>
[16:38] <apw> if it was a git repo like it is once it is released then the current autobuilder could be pointed at it
[16:38] <smb> Right, that would be too simple
[16:39] <apw> /home/apw/COD/linux/drivers/mfd/wm8994-core.c:260: error: 'WM1811_JACKDET_MODE_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
[16:39] <apw> that said the mainline builds built the tag and barfed instantly as above
[16:39] <ohsix> broooooooonie
[16:40] <apw> smb if they just pushed the -rc1 things he does, we could send him the reports ... sigh
[16:41] <smb> apw, Problem seems to be that he seems to be unable to handle branches. Or he is just a je... One or the other
[17:17] <henrix> cking: about bug #926292, i've tagged it verification-needed-oneiric. although the commit is queued for stable, i guess you'll want to test it, right?
[17:17] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 926292 in linux "automake distdir.test fails because of an EPERM error" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926292
[17:18] <cking> henrix, yep, I'd like to hand verify it
[17:18] <henrix> cking: ok, cool. just to confirm that
[17:19] <cking> I'm just preparing a machine to test it as we speak, so good timing ;-)
[17:19] <henrix> heh
[17:19] <henrix> no hurry! :)
[17:57] <desrt> hi.  does anyone know what the status of ext4+'discard' (ssd TRIM) support is?
[17:58] <desrt> is this stable enough to be considered a best standard practice for use with SSDs at this point?
[18:00] <cking> henrix, verification complete :-)
[18:01] <henrix> cking: cool, thanks!
[18:15] <apw> ogasawara, you will be pleased to know there is now a 3.2.11 which builds
[18:15] <ogasawara> apw: nice
[18:16] <ogasawara> apw: I'll get 'er rebased
[18:16] <apw> ogasawara, the mainline builder just announced it, and it seems built ok on all arches
[18:37] <johanbr> Hmm... it appears brcmsmac stopped detecting my wifi card some time after 3.2.0-12
[18:37] <johanbr> 3.2.0-12 works, 3.2.0-18 doesn't
[18:58]  * jsalisbury is updating bios.  Back in a bit.
[18:59] <bullgard4> '~$ nmon' > r prints: " Linux: Linux version 2.6.32-38-generic (buildd@zirconium)." Is »buildd« the username of a computer named »zirconium«? What kind of user is that?
[19:02] <apw> bullgard4, buildd is the user under which builds in ubuntu are
[19:02] <apw> built on the buildds
[19:18] <bullgard4> apw: Thank you very much for your help.
[19:53] <ah-> hi, i'm playing with kernel development on ubuntu and i'm wondering what's the best way to do incremental compiles
[19:54] <ah-> at the moment i'm compiling my kernel according to http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2011/10/28/how-to-compile-a-new-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-kernel/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[19:55] <ah-> my problem with that is that after i change something "skipabi=true skipmodule=true fakeroot debian/rules binary-mbp" doesn't include my changes if i don't do "fakeroot debian/rules clean"
[19:55] <ah-> before
[19:55] <ah-> but cleaning and doing a full build on every change takes a lot of time
[19:55] <pbuckley> distcc is your friend
[19:57] <ah-> so it's not possible to do incremental builds?
[19:57] <ah-> i fear even with distcc/ccache it'll take ages
[20:04] <pbuckley> i prefer to do full builds.. i think of it as safer
[20:05] <pbuckley> i think if you do the plain old make
[20:05] <pbuckley> you can do incremetal builds
[20:05] <ohsix> if you're working on a module you can use the regular linux build stuff to test it
[20:05] <pbuckley> ^^
[20:06] <ah-> i'm doing that for a part of it but that doesn't work for everything
[20:40]  * cking hammers ecryptfs with a kernel build and calls it a day, /me --> EOD
[23:44] <apw> ah-, you can remove the build stamp in debian stamps to get an incremental build


[07:07] <fabbione> doko: ok... should we?
[07:07] <doko> ok
[07:08] <fabbione> apt-get source redhat-cluster-suite
[07:08] <fabbione> the incrimated .deb is rgmanager
[07:09] <fabbione> the binary in rgmanager is /usr/sbin/clurgmgr
[07:09] <fabbione> that executable links with libcman.so.2.0 and libdlm.so.2.0
[07:09] <doko> all archs?
[07:09] <fabbione> what's happening is that at random (at least on i386)
[07:10] <fabbione> it is dynamically linked.. while other times (like the last build on the buildd) gets statically linked
[07:10] <fabbione> ia64 gets always static.. i didn't check yet amd64/sparc/ppc
[07:10] <fabbione> the very strange thing is that it happens ONLY with these 2 libraries
[07:10] <fabbione> because the other libs seem to be always dynamic
[07:11] <fabbione> now.. what i am not sure is why it happens at random.. why only with these 2 libs (built from the same source)
[07:11] <fabbione> and it changes behaviour on different arches
[07:11] <fabbione> i can't find a pattern in it except that you build once and it's static.. you build another and it's dynamic
[07:12] <fabbione> redhat-cluster-suite-2.20070315/rgmanager/src/daemons/clurgmgrd
[07:12] <fabbione> and it usually happens for the binaries in that dir
[07:12] <doko> ugly
[07:12] <fabbione> at least this is what i noticed
[07:12] <fabbione> there might be more binaries around with that issue
[07:12] <fabbione> so i need some help here to understand if it is the build system or our toolchain
[07:12] <doko> but it only happens with these two shared libs, correct?
[07:13] <fabbione> yes so it seems
[07:13] <fabbione> those are the 2 i noticed
[07:13] <fabbione> for example clvmd (lvm2) links against the same 2 libs but it does it properly (at least it did it in the last build)
[07:13] <doko> so how can we trigger that?
[07:14] <fabbione> build the source .. check ldd
[07:14] <fabbione> repeat until
[07:14] <fabbione> that's what i did
[07:14] <doko> I could imagine to build/link with a newer/pure upstream toolchain
[07:14] <fabbione> it usually happens quicklu
[07:14] <fabbione> quickly even
[07:14] <fabbione> like in 2/3 builds
[07:15] <fabbione> i experience this sometimes on every build that there was a change in the linking
[07:15] <fabbione> so it shouldn't take you too long to trigger
[07:15] <fabbione> but i wasn't able to isolate what triggers it
[07:15] <fabbione> otherwise i would know more
[07:17] <doko> did you call the compiler/linker with -v to see some difference in the output?
[07:17] <fabbione> yes
[07:17] <fabbione> i noticed none
[07:18] <doko> I can try to build with our feisty+1 toolchain, but this does not differ too much
[07:18] <fabbione> no i would really like you to check what's happening in feisty first
[07:18] <fabbione> we need to know if this is a toolchain bug or a build system bug
[07:18] <fabbione> if feisty is affected we need to try and see how much
[07:18] <fabbione> this can be a security nightmare for pitti if all of the archive is affected
[07:19] <fabbione> try to imagine random binaries being statically linked
[07:19] <fabbione> and we need to rebuild half of them for a security fix in lib foo
[07:19] <doko> sure, but you asked for 20min, not two weeks ;-p
[07:20] <fabbione> yes 20 minutes to explain the problem to you :)
[07:20] <doko> I will try to have a first look at it today
[07:21] <fabbione> ok thanks
[07:21] <fabbione> see 14 minutes to explain you the issue :()
[07:21] <fabbione> less than 20 :P
[07:22] <fabbione> doko: another thing i noticed. if that's of any help
[07:23] <fabbione> the build system uses -L../path/to/local/built/libs -ldlm -lcman
[07:23] <fabbione> if i instead remove those and force ../path/to/local/built/libs/libdlm.so.2.0 (and same for cman) the link is ok and dynamic
[07:24] <fabbione> (force as in object to link in the final binary)
[02:30] <fabbione> doko: you can reject okaratas from the team. He does attempt to join all possible teams with no answer to any query on why
[02:30] <fabbione> hey tmarble
[02:30] <doko> fabbione: ok, will do
[02:30] <tmarble> hi fabbione!
[02:31] <fabbione> how you doing tom?
[02:32] <tmarble> insanely busy, thanks


[14:35] <stevespiegel> hi. I'm building kernel packages from the ubuntu team's  git repository. is there a way to generate packages for  one flavor only? I see in the docs how to build for one  arch, but nothing about flavor builds
[15:15] <dorimon5> helo!, need some help, my ubuntu server always get hang under heavy load after 4-6 hours. when i monitor the dmesg. i get this message before it finally hang. "perf samples too long (2519 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000". is these kernel issue?


[04:04] <chalcedony> my son told me to fix his father's mail client with IMAPS protocol - he uses thunderbird. my email is ssh and read mutt there... i dont know how to do this?
[10:44] <jonathan__> hey guys i think there is a strange issue or i am just not setting up firefox right to use with ssh tunnling
[15:03] <thunderstruck> anyone here?
[16:29] <eagles0513875> asac: would you like me to start working on extensions for next release?
[18:37] <micahg> chalcedony: has anyone helped you yet?
[18:42] <fta> [reed], is mozilla 500925 supposed to help?
[18:43] <fta> [reed], i mean, iir(ead)c, it's i/o vs memory, right?
[18:43] <fta> but trunk suffers from both
[19:31] <chalcedony> micahg, not yet, no.. can you please?
[19:33] <micahg> chalcedony: Edit -> Account Settings, then under the account you need to fix, server settings on the left, select SSL under security settings
[19:49] <chalcedony> oh wow.. micahg ok i'll go try that shortly . thanks!!
[20:15] <|eagles0513875|> chalcedony: :) glad to see you have been helped
[20:16] <chalcedony> me too :)
[20:16] <chalcedony> i'll try it after i eat
[20:20] <|eagles0513875|> micahg: i just upgraded to lucid since there were only a few packages upgraded has the extension work begun on fire fox extensions?
[20:21] <micahg> |eagles0513875|: it's not suggested to upgrade at this time
[20:21] <micahg> also, you don't need to upgrade to build for lucid
[20:21] <|eagles0513875|> so far the only thing i have seen changed are compilers atm
[20:21] <|eagles0513875|> i have only upgraded in a vm
[20:22] <|eagles0513875|> so its no big if a reinstall is neede
[20:22] <|eagles0513875|> d
[20:22] <micahg> ah, ok
[20:33] <chull> <-- chalcedony/husband
[20:36] <chull> ok what do i need to do next?
[20:38] <chull> |eagles0513875|, micahg ?
[20:41] <chull> it's going to need to get mail from a differnt box than it used to
[20:41] <micahg> ?
[20:41] <chull> it has to ssh to get it, no?
[20:42] <micahg> chull: if you made the change I gave to chalcedony, you should be done and it should say port 993
[20:42] <chull> hmm! ok.. looking
[20:43] <chull> it says 995 micahg
[20:44] <micahg> oh, you must be using pop
[20:45] <micahg> what does it say for server type
[20:45] <fta> micahg, are you already working on the various failures we have in umd?
[20:45] <chull> pop mail server
[20:45] <micahg> no, I didn't know about them fta
[20:46] <micahg> wow, segfault
[20:47] <micahg> chull: if you want to switch to imaps, you'll have to create a new account AFAIK
[20:47] <fta> [reed], http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35048966/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-lpia.xulrunner-1.9.3_1.9.3~a1~hg20091103r34494%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:47] <fta> [reed], baaddd
[20:47]  * [reed] looks
[20:47] <fta> ./../../dist/bin/run-mozilla.sh ./../../dist/bin/js imacro_asm.js ./imacros.jsasm > imacros.c.tmp
[20:47] <fta> Segmentation fault
[20:48] <micahg> fta, I can fix the TB3 patch tongiht
[20:48] <[reed]> neat
[20:48] <[reed]> hmm
[20:48] <fta> micahg, great
[20:48] <[reed]> wonder what landed lately
[20:48] <chull> oh ... sorry for being really new to this.. our son set it up.. how do we do this?
[20:48] <micahg> fta, if FF3.5 fails again (bumped to 3.5.6 today), I can fix that as well
[20:49] <micahg> chull: in that same screen, there ahousl be an add account option on the left
[20:49] <micahg> fta, I'm assumming I should just push my changes to the branch after I verify they work
[20:50] <chull> ok thanks micahg :)
[20:51] <micahg> chull: when you're done, you'll want to uncheck check for new messages on the old account
[20:51] <micahg> chull: don't remove the old account as it might be your only copy of your mail right now (probably the reason you're changing to imap)
[20:59] <chull> yeah.. the hd died, we got a new hd.. power supply is wonky.
[21:00] <chull> it's asking "enter the name by which you would like to refer to this account -i don't know what to put there?
[21:01] <micahg> that's the nickname in the account list AFAIK
[21:13] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[21:13] <BUGabundo> hey hbbs
[21:15] <hbbs> BUGabundo, hi
[21:20] <chull> micahg, is that something we need to change?
[21:21] <chull> it's hisname@(none) now.
[21:21] <micahg> no
[21:21] <fta> micahg, yep, if you're not sure, just asks. remember, 1 commit to bump the tarball, then 1 fix per commit
[21:22] <chull> ok micahg great
[21:22] <fta> micahg, 1.9.2 failed too
[21:22] <micahg> fta, got it, BTW, can you give me a recommendation for ubuntu membership?
[21:23] <chull> micahg, we clicked next a lot.. how do we know if it works?
[21:24] <micahg> go to your inbox?  YOu stilll need to set SSL on server settings
[21:25] <fta> micahg, sure, but i don't know how to proceed. i never went to the process myself, i applied for motu (because asac was tired of sponsoring my stuff ;))
[21:25] <micahg> just a comment at the bottom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/micahg
[21:25] <fta> BUGabundo, you did it, right?
[21:26] <BUGabundo> membership?
[21:26] <BUGabundo> yep, I'm a member
[21:26] <BUGabundo> but micahg can apply to motu
[21:26] <BUGabundo> with his work on this team asac vote he is fine
[21:26] <micahg> BUGabundo: not going for MOTU yet, just regular membership
[21:27] <BUGabundo> if I have the time, I'll add a recommendation on his wiki page :)
[21:27] <BUGabundo> micahg: you should :p
[21:27] <micahg> BUGabundo: being a member of Mozilla Team is enough of a responsibility right now :)
[21:28] <BUGabundo> so?
[21:28] <BUGabundo> MOTU does not add anything else
[21:33] <micahg> BUGabundo: I"ll be too tempted to work on universe packages :)
[21:34] <BUGabundo> hahaha
[21:45] <chull> micahg, error: could not connect to server mail.b5; the connection was refused"
[21:45] <micahg> chull: doing what?
[21:45] <chull> i clicked 'get mail"
[21:46] <micahg> ok, well, is the server name correct?
[22:29] <jcastro> fta: woo hoo responses!
[23:41] <fta> jcastro, yep, but i'm not pleased with those answers, they are not providing anything that could help us. they basically just want us to go their way with their binaries.
[23:41] <jcastro> heh
[23:44] <fta> pointing us to 195 is really not fair. they will ship 230+ and we will have to ship a 6 months old release light years away from theirs
[23:44] <fta> nahh
[23:45] <fta> i'm in low maintenance mode btw; if someone wants to take it, fine with me
[23:45] <fta> (same with all dailies)
[23:46] <BUGabundo> fta what are we discussing?
[23:46] <fta> chromium
[23:46] <micahg> fta, yeah people keep coming in saying the dailies are broke
[23:46] <micahg> I keep asking them to help fix :)
[23:48] <fta> i also get several emails a week
[23:52] <BUGabundo> WFM
[23:52] <BUGabundo> what is broken ?
[23:52] <micahg> BUGabundo: the daily builds
[23:52] <BUGabundo> I miss the google sync bookmark feature


[00:12] <tsimonq2> infinity: Sure, on it.
[00:24] <tsimonq2> .
[00:25] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-October/004840.html
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[02:30] <sforshee> infinity, apw: I uploaded a new linux-meta-aws to add a missing linux-modules-extra-aws package
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[07:33] <ginggs> infinity: sleepyhead ^
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[14:21] <infinity> ginggs: Thanks for the sleepyhead fix, that cleared out the last NBS.
[14:40] <ginggs> infinity: np!
[16:08] <RikMills> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2XhccvmJCU
[16:08] <RikMills> Live now
[16:11] <RikMills> ^^ that was meant to be in #ubuntu-flavors
[19:32] <xnox> infinity:  sane atuomated testing has been in place for s390x for a while now, using KVM
[19:33] <xnox> infinity:  sane ability to netboot was not there.
[19:33] <xnox> infinity:  arguably we should be adding netbooting tests to the CI
[19:33] <xnox> infinity:  i.e. s390x autopromotion is in place.
[19:33] <xnox> (not auto, but i mean like gated on CI auto tests)
[19:34] <xnox> mwhudson:  so my reading is that we install linux-firmware in the modules squashfs stage, but don't package them in the squashfs nor mount it.
[19:35] <xnox> mwhudson:  all kernel flavours for bare-metal depend on linux-firmware, imho that should simply be preseeded in the base layer. Although that will make us more different from a stock lxd-server squashfs.
[19:35] <xnox> mwhudson:  where do you want to seed/install linux-firmware? in the filesystem.squashfs, instatter.sauqshfs, or the modules.squashfs?
[19:36]  * xnox is slightly leaning more towards filesystem.squashfs but installer.squashfs will do for now too
[19:36] <xnox> mwhudson:  context is inability to have network cards working during installation time, as kernel fails to find firmware blobs to upload into the network cards.
[19:55] <xnox> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/374059mwhudson:  infinity: as git
[19:56] <xnox> mwhudson:   ^
[19:56] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1847835
[19:56] <xnox> also uploaded into the queue
[19:56] <xnox> or if there are other things to fix, there is just the change as a commit cherrypickable. without the tag/release commit.
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (eoan-proposed/main) [2.618 => 2.619] (desktop-core)
[20:12] <mwhudson> xnox: argl
[21:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (eoan-proposed) [2.619]
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (eoan-proposed) [1:19.10.15]


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[03:14] <manchicken> Finally getting around to re-submitting those libqapt patches with Jon's recommended changes.
[03:38] <ahoneybun_> yep Riddell
[03:44] <manchicken> Sweet! Three libqapt patches submitted, hopefully they take!
[03:55] <jalcine> \o/
[06:05] <valorie> you rock, manchicken
[06:05] <manchicken> What did I break this time?
[06:05] <manchicken> :)
[06:05] <valorie> libqapt, and then put it back together, from what I gather
[06:06] <manchicken> Ah, that. Yes :)
[06:06] <manchicken> I just hope I pass Jon's review this time :)
[06:12] <valorie> progress is sometimes 2 steps forward, one back
[06:15] <manchicken> Yeah... it just feels like I've been working on this issue for 8 months. Mostly because I've been working on this issue for 8 months.
[08:22] <lordievader> Goor morning.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[16:51] <soee> Riddell, shadeslayer https://plus.google.com/u/0/+HachemZerdia/posts/YFUmdbJZ9gM
[16:51] <shadeslayer> I think we saw an email from him on the ML
[16:53] <soee> did he get some response ?
[16:56] <shadeslayer> dunno
[16:56]  * shadeslayer hasn't been keeping up with email
[16:57] <soee> well he said in g+ he will visit this channel
[16:57] <soee> hope someone can lead him
[16:57] <shadeslayer> probably not today :)
[16:58] <soee> true :)
[17:00] <Riddell> yeah i need to reply to that
[17:12] <Riddell> hachem!
[17:12] <Riddell> sorry for not replying to your e-mail
[17:13] <hachem> hello :) , never mind Riddell
[17:14] <soee> hi hachem
[17:14] <Riddell> hachem: this is where all the cool kids hang out, if you want to help kubuntu you should hang around on irc
[17:14] <Riddell> hachem: loads todo, e.g. this todo list https://trello.com/kubuntu
[17:15] <Riddell> build status might well point out things to do http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html
[17:15] <Riddell> might be some paackages to merge on merges https://merges.ubuntu.com/
[17:16] <hachem> thanks Riddell that's very helpful
[17:17] <Riddell> we do a lot of packaging
[17:17] <Riddell> including automated scripts for that
[17:18] <Riddell> we program the installer and muon
[17:19] <hachem> okay, all this things new for me I should try to learn it
[17:19] <Riddell> hachem: welcome along!
[17:20] <hachem> thanks Riddell now I konw where I start :)
[18:17] <ahoneybun> and the Docs!
[18:29] <Riddell> Subject: FOSDEM 2014 talk accepted  yay!
[19:29] <manchicken> Why does everybody wait until the last minute to give feedback?!
[19:30] <manchicken> I'm trying to finish these libqapt patches, and now all of a sudden the people who I've been asking for feedback from for months want to give it. :)
[21:48] <lkysady> hi, having a problem with Kubuntu, latest ... did apt-get autoremove of a libc-amd64:i386 library that was no longer needed, got some error messages and now my kernel panics on reboot...help!
[21:48] <lkysady> doesn't seem to be any sort of Kubuntu rescue
[21:49] <lkysady> is anybody out there?
[23:34] <yofel> Happy new year to everyone in GMT+1 :D
[23:37] <yofel> fixed that webchat link on the community page, that said #kubuntu but linked to here o.O


[16:31] <flexiondotorg_> Hi. I'm the project lead for Ubuntu MATE.
[16:32] <flexiondotorg_> An Ubuntu MATE community member has created a Raspberry Pi 2 port of Ubuntu MATE 15.04
[16:32] <flexiondotorg_> I'd like to discuss how we might be able to make that official image to sit along side our i386, amd64 and powerpc versions.
[16:32] <flexiondotorg_> Anyone here who can help with that?
[16:46] <rbasak> flexiondotorg_: oh - #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release might be a better place for that question. It doesn't really need any ARM specialism - just in image publication etc.
[16:55] <ogra_> flexiondotorg_, first of all you will eed to get the bootloader packaged and into the archive ...
[16:55] <ogra_> then you want to make sure our kernel works with the HW
[16:56] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, Thanks. Is that not the case considering the Snappy Core version?
[16:56] <flexiondotorg_> If not, we know what is required for the Pi 2.
[16:56] <ogra_> no, snappy is completely different
[16:56] <ogra_> we dont have an official image for the RPi
[16:57] <ogra_> snappy is designed in a way that you keep the HW bits separate from the rest of the system
[16:57] <ogra_> which is why there is a device tarball for RPi around that you can combine with the generic bits using the ubuntu-device-flash tool
[16:59] <ogra_> (i.e. we dont ship anything HW related in the snappy image)
[17:01] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, Understood. So, to recap.
[17:01] <flexiondotorg_> 1. Package RPi2 boot loader in the official archive.
[17:01] <flexiondotorg_> 2. Make sure the default kernel works, if not work with the kernel team to get the required changes made.
[17:01] <ogra_> 2 might be just a devicetree file
[17:02] <ogra_> if all Pi2 bits are mainline already at least
[17:02] <flexiondotorg_> 3. Update ubuntu-cdimage to enable armhf for Ubuntu MATE.
[17:02] <ogra_> if i was you i wouldnt build such an image but instead produce a preinstalled rootfs tarball in cdimage
[17:02] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, Thanks. That is a useful starting point.
[17:02] <ogra_> and putr instructions up how to assemble a RPi install from that
[17:03] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, Good idea.
[17:03] <ogra_> so people can use their own kernel/bootloader setup
[17:03] <ogra_> arm people are usually knowledgeable enough to handle such things :)
[17:03] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, That is a really good idea. Because we want to target ODROID C1 too.
[17:04] <flexiondotorg_> Thanks for the help.
[17:04] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/ btw ;)
[17:05] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, Thanks.
[17:05] <ogra_> yeah, wont help you much i fear, but you could pick kernel and bootloader bits out of that tarball if needed
[17:07] <flexiondotorg_> ogra_, Everything is useful right now.
[17:08] <ogra_> i can imagine :)


[08:01] <cj2003> robitaille ?
[08:10] <robitaille> cj2003: yep
[10:47] <ubotu> New on thefridge: Edging into the Classroom: Edubuntu 6.10 released today! <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/615>
[11:05] <sladen> http://www.ubuntu.com.cn/releaseparty
[11:05] <sladen> http://www.amyjiangsu.com/?p=13
[11:13] <cj2003> sorry, been in a meeting - are you still awake?


[01:31] <Evclidis> Greetings..
[01:32] <Evclidis> Is there a way to install only the gdm locker on kubuntu?
[02:04] <jacky> Evclidis: afaik, you can make the default
[02:04] <jacky> but the package 'kubuntu-desktop' depends on either 'lightdm' or 'kdm'
[02:05] <jacky> so no
[02:05] <jacky> making gdm the default would be the most approriate route
[03:26] <rcw2>  what are all the things i need to do to ensure my alarm clock in kubuntu will function in the morning?   is the power saving mode screen the only thing?
[06:36] <ThisNickIsHowFre> damn
[07:23] <praxilene> exit
[08:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:25] <Guest93801> ok
[12:42] <lolnoob> (16:38:08) tamerlanchiques-pol: Hi. I have a problem with windows Steam. I successfully download 100 mb of updates and pass to login screen.  Next I type my log and pass and press "login". Steam require to paste verification code that sent to my email. I paste it and press OK. Further, nothing happens. .  verification window just disappears
[12:43] <lolnoob> I use "play on linux" , bot on clear wine it doesn't woring too
[12:43] <lolnoob> working*
[13:05] <fkm> lolnoob: Windows Steam? Wine?  I have an authentication issue with my Samba shares on Kubuntu. I have a directory which I share for guests and allow read-access for everyone (through the properties dialog). But for some reason I'm prompted for a password. I couldn't find the same issue on Google which suggests to me that I'm missing something trivial :-\
[15:20] <fkm> Does someone has a pointer for me as to where to look to find more information to this kind of problem?
[15:28] <fkm> Addendum: When I add full access to my user and try to log in with the respective credentials, the prompt reappears as if my input was wrong :-\
[17:32] <killo> buenas tardes
[18:28] <monty_hall> is there a way to get rid of screen tearing on an nvidia video card?
[18:28] <monty_hall> gtx 460
[18:29] <monty_hall> strange
[18:29] <monty_hall> the nvidia control panel has sync to blank checked
[18:29] <monty_hall> vblank I mean
[18:30] <monty_hall> yet I see tearing when I'm watchin a video
[18:48] <Guest58402> hellooo
[21:54] <zorgborg> hey does anyone know how to hide the 'new activity' icon in the top right corner on kde desktop?
[21:58] <bprompt> hmm that'd be a kwin setting...   I use lxde
[22:02] <zorgborg> bprompt: a kwin setting? wouldn't it be a plasma setting? doubt it has anything to do with kwin
[22:02] <bprompt> hmmm maybe, yes
[22:03] <zorgborg> bprompt: should i have a browse in .~/.config or ~/.kde etc?
[22:05] <bprompt> zorgborg:    I'd think it'd be in ~/.kde/
[22:08] <zorgborg> bprompt: think ive found the associated rc file, its a desktop file, do you know how I can comment out the right bit?
[22:09] <bprompt> zorgborg:     I'd try a bash comment...    # same line comment
[22:09] <bprompt> most config use the same syntax
[22:10] <zorgborg> bprompt: yeh thanks was thinking that :)
[22:12] <zorgborg> bprompt: hashed it out, not sure if it will work, just tried to set the changes with 'source plasma-desktoprc', just gonna try logging in and out
[22:14] <bprompt> k
[22:21] <zorgborg> bprompt: nope
[22:31] <bprompt> zorgborg:    http://pastie.org/8670163
[22:39] <zorgborg> bprompt: im not seeing whatever it is im supposed to?
[22:41] <bprompt> zorgborg: .... hmm dunno..
[22:42] <zorgborg> bprompt: sorry i mean the link works fine and everything im justn ot sure how it was relevant
[22:42] <bprompt> zorgborg:    hehe.... did you read it?
[22:43] <zorgborg> bprompt: scanned it, something about resetting plasma to how it is on a fresh install or something
[22:43] <bprompt> zorgborg:    is just a posting... the posting is a bit long, the url is pasted there too if you want it, so I just cut only the relevant post from it
[22:43] <zorgborg> bprompt: yeh i read the bit you'd cut out
[22:43] <bprompt> zorgborg:    I see, you clicked on the url in the pastebin posting,   well, the url is there as the source, the relevant article is in the pastebin below the url
[22:45] <zorgborg> bprompt: yeh sorry that's what i meant i have looked over the relevant bit in the pastebin page
[22:47] <zorgborg> bprompt: is deleting ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* supposed to reset it and the resetting will remove the new activity panel?
[22:47] <bprompt> zorgborg:     so... there,  you delete those files, start anew with "activities"
[22:47] <zorgborg> bprompt: cos i don't believe that seeing as with a fresh kubuntu install the new activity bar is there from the beginnnign
[22:48] <bprompt> zorgborg:   it won't remove the activities panel, the activities bit will remain there, you can only click on the "stop" button on any activity
[22:49] <zorgborg> bprompt: nah I'm not wanting an activities panel either, doesn't matter, I can live with it :)
[22:50] <bprompt> hehe
[22:51] <bprompt> now and then I go and use kwin, and plasma loads, but I don't recall that "activities" part =), as I said, I use lxde
[22:52] <zorgborg> bprompt: no probs, thanks anyways :)


[19:14] <mjaiteh> I am having trouble with the lts.conf file on my ltsp server, anyone care to help?
[19:15] <alkisg> !ask
[19:15] <alkisg> Also try #ltsp, as we have factoids with some premade-answers there, so support is easier there
[19:18] <mjaiteh> well my ltsp server is running but i can't login through my thinclient
[19:18] <alkisg> Can you ssh to the server with the username/password you're trying to login with?
[19:18] <alkisg> (from some other pc)
[19:25] <mjaiteh> yes
[19:26] <alkisg> Did you change your server IP address? If so, you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image