[00:00] <Amarst> is there some trick to getting webdav to work on ubuntu?
[00:00] <samosa> yo
[00:00] <Amarst> i can connect fine using windblows, and firefox
[00:00] <Amarst> (read only on firefox)
[00:00] <samosa> graphics drivers, do i install propietery or no?
[00:00] <Amarst> but when i go to places - connect to server, it never works
[00:00] <Amarst> install proprietary if you want good graphics
[00:00] <Irishmanluke> bastidrazor: I should report that so that problem can be fixed
[00:01] <samosa> ok, i did cancel...how do i get the message to install propietay graphics drivers again?
[00:01] <bastidrazor> Irishmanluke, no, the problem is on your end. the installer stopping was a good thing. you lost no data .. you could just change the previous /home/luke to /home/luke.old and install fine.
[00:02] <Amarst> samosa:  system - administration - hardware drivers
[00:02] <samosa> Amarst: thank you
[00:02] <bastidrazor> Irishmanluke, i do this when i upgrade to new distro's.. i have a seperate /home partition and i always use the same username. before installing i change the username to username.old then install. i can pull any data out of the old username without fear of lost data
[00:03] <evonise`emp> hi, im almost having this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/253321 (laptop gets stuck at 22-25% of install and freezes) im trying to do that workaround but it doesnt work. anyone else has an idea?
[00:03] <wilson> hi
[00:05] <tristanmike> I'm trying to dual boot Linux and XP. I've installed XP first on an IDE drive (sdb) and I've installed Ubuntu on the SATA (sda). Installation for both went fine, but upon boot, selecting the XP option yeilds the following "Starting up..." then the screen blinks (as it's handing it off) then it stays at a "black" screen and does nothing. I must power the computer off/on. Any ideas ? Here's my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:05] <tristanmike> 212293/
[00:08] <Luthor> How do you dual boot Vista and 9.04?
[00:08] <kevin__> v
[00:09] <Stratocaster> bye
[00:09] <ultimatelifeform> can I get 3d graphics on an intel gma 950?
[00:11] <njovanov08> does anyone know how to have access to a usb external hardisk in virtual box running winodws xp
[00:11] <njovanov08> ?
[00:12] <nikitis> What is a good Web page design program?
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> njovanov08:  you mean you have XP running virtualbox?
[00:13] <njovanov08> correct
[00:13] <njovanov08> no excuse me
[00:13] <njovanov08> i have my main OS is ubuntu 9.04
[00:14] <njovanov08> i am using virtual box and in it running windows xp
[00:14] <rkeg1> I've been having problems w/ getting X to run w/ sli enabled in 9.04. I've tried the restricted drivers as well as the install from the nvidia site. The best I can get is a blank screen. any help available?
[00:14] <u_dparte> anyone in here have exp. w/ nginx
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> njovanov08:  you have to configure vbox to access usb devices in its settings - the virtualbox from the VBOX homepage has that feature.. the ones in the default repos does not.
[00:15] <samosa> ok, installed video propietary drivers, good thing is fan speed has gone down drastically. bad thing is when i go to SYSTEM > PREFERENCES > DISPLAY, it basically starts making the screen flicker and ubuntu becomes slow/unresponsive. any one get this symtom? (<---ati hd 4850)
[00:15] <nikitis> Anyone?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> njovanov08:  you can set up vbox  with  'vbox share' that would also allow the guest OS to see/access teh filesystem on teh hard drive
[00:15] <rogue780> how do I run a command in the terminal so it gets pushed to the background and I'm immediately returned to the prompt?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> njovanov08:  if you install the vbox guest addations on the guest os.
[00:15] <Irishmanluke> bastidrazor: you don't think there should have at least been an error message, would have saved me alot of time
[00:15] <njovanov08> Dr_Willis, how do i do the share please?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> rogue780:  bash job conroll basics.  use command &
[00:16] <samosa> happened when i tryed to change the display fps from 60 to 75.
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> njovanov08:  its in the virtualbox settings. and detailed in the vbox docs.  You can share any folder
[00:16] <rogue780> Dr_Willis, thanks. I kept thinking it was $ for some reason
[00:16] <L3d> sows synaptic package manager doesnt force versions ,dont know waht to do
[00:16] <njovanov08> ok i will look through that. Thank you for your help!!!
[00:16] <Irishmanluke> I guess most people that go into the manual partition editor know what they're doing
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> rogue780:  also use the 'exit' command if you want to close the terminal. do NOT hit the 'close' button. that may kill any spawned to the background processes
[00:16] <L3d> jup
[00:16] <uvacav> anyone know if there has been any success getting any portion of the Iphone SDK to run on linux?
[00:17] <Barridus> is openbox-gnome no longer usable in jaunty?
[00:18] <L3d> how can i roll back the xorg ati part i dint instal wich wont show the force version button.
[00:18] <L3d> ?
[00:18] <samosa> is there a way to make it remember username/password...so i dont have to keep typing it in ...everytime i log in?
[00:18] <SebsPigeon> samosa, i think you can in the login window thing
[00:18] <SebsPigeon> let me see..
[00:19] <L3d> jepper
[00:19] <coleys> samosa: System > Administration > Login Window
[00:19] <coleys> Then Security.
[00:19] <L3d> or its in the menu
[00:19] <samosa> Ah, thanks.
[00:19] <rjmoore1> hello all!!!!
[00:19] <L3d> i gues im using gnome .. :/
[00:19] <monostone> hi! I have qmail installed as my mail server on a virtual domain setup, I would like to know if any webmail application integrates nicely with this setup, thanks
[00:20] <Halitech> monostone, squirrelmail says it will work with any mail system
[00:20] <Cry__Baby> how can I stop Ubuntu from every day telling there are updates available?
[00:20] <Ademan> does anyone know of a ppa or other deb repository for recent or nightly e17/efl releases?
[00:20] <Cry__Baby> Ademan: e17?
[00:20] <L3d> roll back ??
[00:21] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: enlightenment, a window manager
[00:21] <Halitech> Cry__Baby, why would you not want to get updates?
[00:21] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: you can use gconf to fix your issue
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> check the enlightment homepage?
 ill inform myself, thanks
[00:21] <Cry__Baby> Halitech: on monthly quota.  how?
[00:21] <forrestv_> is there a way to disable xinerama?
[00:21] <Cry__Baby> gconf to fix your issue?
[00:21] <samosa> lol...this is wierd...I downloaded latest stable ubuntu, but firefox version it has is 3.0.11 ...isnt ff like on version 3.5 now, how do i update it?
[00:21] <coleys> Ademan: Get elive
[00:22] <coleys> !elive
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  samosa
[00:22] <Cry__Baby> samosa: i noticed the same..
[00:22] <L3d> how can i roll back the xorg ati part i dint instal wich wont show the force version button. and ff
[00:22] <Devon_C> samosa: go to mozilla.com or .net
[00:22] <Cry__Baby> samosa: the current FF is ok
[00:22] <coleys> Ademan: http://www.elivecd.org/
[00:22] <Ademan> coleys: that's not a bad idea, but i'm comfy here in ubuntu
[00:22] <dabukalam> hi all i have a problem with my integrated intel wireless driver. It's not detecting any wireless networks...
[00:22] <samosa> ok....and how comes it wont let me do 'check for updates'?
[00:22] <Halitech> Cry__Baby, not sure, Ademan says gconf should be able to deal with it
[00:22] <EtherNet> there's Firefox 3.6 for Ubuntu jaunty, take a look at it
[00:22] <SebsPigeon> Cry__Baby, I think he wants the new one
[00:23] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: pop open a terminal, run gconf-editor
[00:23] <Cry__Baby> how can I stop Ubuntu from every day telling there are updates available?  I told it to stop looking for updates, but its still doing it. WHY? bug?
[00:23] <nikitis> Nobody knows of a web page designer for Linux
[00:23] <SebsPigeon> EtherNet, ff just released 3.5 ...
[00:23] <rjmoore1> dabukalam::: is that a new install of ubuntu
[00:23] <Devon_C> dabukalam: do you have a software disk for your intel driver?
[00:23] <Cry__Baby> what can the new FF do that the old cannot?
[00:23] <EtherNet> SebsPigeon, check this out: aptitude search firefox-3.6
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Cry__Baby:  telling you as in the terminal mesage? or a X dialog poping up?
[00:23] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: i'm telling you how to fix your issue...
[00:23] <EtherNet> SebsPigeon, 3.5 is not the real new branch, 3.6 actually is.
[00:23] <rankinr> Cry_Baby: it's likely stopped looking, but still has updates recorded from the last time it checked.
[00:23] <L3d> how can i roll back the xorg ati part wich wont show the force version button. and ff..
[00:24] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: pop up window keeps popping up all the time,.. annoying :(
[00:24] <grendal_prime> is there a way (in gnome) to just create a launcher in  a dir i have open
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> Cry__Baby:  I just update... :)
[00:24] <SebsPigeon> EtherNet, i got nothing out of running that :S
[00:24] <Ademan> Dr_Willis: I assumed it's because update-notifier actually launches the update-manager when it detects updates, because someone thought that was a good idea...
[00:24] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: i told it in settings to NOT look for updates.. but it keeps reporting it
[00:24] <L3d> pm pls..
[00:24] <L3d> :u
[00:24] <Cry__Baby> !UPATE BUG
[00:24] <EtherNet> ethernet@amdthron:~$ sudo aptitude search firefox-3.6
[00:24] <EtherNet> i   firefox-3.6                     - safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> Cry__Baby:  like rankinr  said.. its  sees theres updates from a earlier time
[00:24] <rankinr> Cry__Baby: it's likely stopped looking, but still has updates recorded from the last time it checked.
[00:25] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: ahh i hear ya
[00:25] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: i know how to fix your issue... open a terminal and run gconf-editor
[00:25] <Cry__Baby> rankinr: ok ty
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> I dont consider that a bug. :0
[00:25] <u_dparte>  firefox is pissing me off
[00:25] <ultimatelifeform> can I get 3d graphics on an intel gma 950?
[00:25] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, yea
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> ultimatelifeform:  proberly can..   most intel cards can do 3d
[00:25] <L3d> abrowser hmm?
[00:25] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, I do run such graphic card with acceleration
[00:25] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, although it's not the best card... it works.
[00:25] <Cry__Baby> Ademan: I ttyped gconf-editor. now what
[00:25] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: I need it to be able to do wobbly windows and 3D games like AssaultCube.
[00:26] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: a window came up, right?
[00:26] <u_dparte> anyone else having random crashes w/ firefox 3.5
[00:26] <u_dparte> it's shutting down my entire system
[00:26] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: where can I get the drivers?
[00:26] <neonux> alguien save como habrir un php en firefox
[00:26] <Cry__Baby> u_dparte:  firefox is pissing me off <-- try using IE :)
[00:26] <edbian> u_dparte: It is beta software
[00:26] <u_dparte> haha
[00:26] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, it's just enough, it's brought by your distribution.
[00:26] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, you don't need extra drivers.
[00:26] <L3d> me2 sommetimes my mouse doesnt click on the browser bit x|
[00:26] <Cry__Baby> u_dparte: its not FF thats doing it
[00:26] <Cry__Baby> u_dparte: its bad RAM
[00:26] <u_dparte> edbian, I don't have this issue on my other systems .. just ubuntu/firefox
[00:26] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: Ok. Thanks,
[00:26] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, have you already installed Ubuntu on that computer?
[00:26] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: click on the 'apps' folder, then scroll down and find the 'update-notifier' folder and click on that.  then on the right there is a checkbox that says "auto_launch" uncheck that box, and you're done
[00:26] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: And that'll give me Compiz?
[00:26] <edbian> u_dparte: firefox 3.5 on ubuntu (or any linux) is not stable yet.
[00:26] <CorpX> im trying to move a .pl file to the www apache folder, but it keeps saying permission denied
[00:27] <CorpX> any ideas?
[00:27] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: no, I'm building.
[00:27] <samosa> ok lol, so i go to mozilla.org, download 3.5 and it downloads this tar.bz2 type file, so i click on it and it opens up windows showing buntch of file in directory. =/ how do i install this?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> CorpX:  use the proper root user permissions/tools to do system type tasks like that.
[00:27] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, yeah you're able to enable compiz although I seriously do not recommend it on such card.
[00:27] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: I want to be able to install Ubuntu if OS X doesn't work.
[00:27] <Cry__Baby> Ademan: I ttyped gconf-editor. now what???
[00:27] <bastidrazor> !ff35 | samosa
[00:27] <u_dparte> edbian, I know that ... but I have to use it for development
[00:27] <L3d> still 1 gb instead o 2 couse i know i have 2 see
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> CorpX:  sudo cp whatever whever
[00:27] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: ... did a window pop up?
[00:27] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: yeah, it's not very good.
[00:27] <Halitech> CorpX, sudo cp /path/to/original/file /var/www/*.pl
[00:27] <CorpX> is there a way to do it straight from the gui?
[00:27] <u_dparte> edbian, where would I find log files to track down whats causing it
[00:27] <L3d> annywho ill leave this open ..
[00:27] <ultimatelifeform> EtherNet: I'm just getting what I can afford right now.
[00:28] <Halitech> CorpX, gksudo nautilus
[00:28] <minimec> samosa: There is a Readme file or an Install file containing all informations.
[00:28] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: did a window pop up when you ran gconf-editor?
[00:28] <EtherNet> ultimatelifeform, go ahead. and try to get it working.
[00:28] <edbian> u_dparte: IDK.  The usual dmesg ?
[00:28] <Cry__Baby> Ademan: yes, but now what?
[00:28] <CorpX> even with nautilus it wont let me copy the file
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> CorpX:  warning.. 'gksudo nautilus' can goof things up.. its BEST to learn to do root tasks from the terminal
[00:28] <neonux> no me abre el php en firefox, alguien save porq?
[00:28] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: click on the 'apps' folder, then scroll down and find the 'update-notifier' folder and click on that.  then on the right there is a checkbox that says "auto_launch" uncheck that box, and you're done
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> CorpX:  try the proper 'sudo cp ..............' type command then
[00:29] <Halitech> CorpX, press ALT + F2 then type in gksudo nautilus
[00:29] <L3d> Use Abrowser !
[00:29] <Cry__Baby> Ademan: too much work, cant be bothered. ty anyway :)
[00:29] <Devon_C> neonux: esta es el chat para ingles
[00:29] <samosa> bastidrazor: "just install the currently available firefox-3.5 package from universe and wait." ?? thats what is says in the link.
[00:29] <L3d> ehh .. right?
[00:29]  * Dr_Willis advises people to never to run Nautilus as root.
[00:29] <Devon_C> neonux: pienso que hay otra canal para los hispanoblantes
[00:29] <Cry__Baby> use Opera then
[00:29] <Ademan> Cry__Baby: you're 3 clicks away...
[00:29] <samosa> minimec: I looked at read me....it just points to a release notes web page...not how to install.
[00:29] <neonux> ok grasias
[00:29] <L3d> dang hew
[00:29] <Wolter> !es | neonux
[00:29] <Cry__Baby> Ademan: 2 clicks too many :-)
[00:29] <L3d> hes right .
[00:30] <L3d> whaa the bleeping
[00:30] <bastidrazor> samosa, firefox-3.5 would be the packagename to install. i have it installed and it works fine
[00:30] <Cry__Baby> !opera > samosa
[00:30] <Devon_C> neonux: el canal es #ubuntu-es
[00:30] <nikitis> So a web page designer program?  Anyone know of any?
[00:30] <Cry__Baby> nikitis: yes I know one
[00:30] <Halitech> nikitis, gedit, mousepad, notepad, leafpad :)
[00:30] <samosa> !chrome > Cry__Baby
[00:31] <L3d> iittss  inn bboois  i  gues
[00:31] <samosa> aw... :(
[00:31] <nikitis> Halitech: no, like a drag and paste kind of web page designer
[00:31] <Devon_C> neonux: el canal es #ubuntu-es
[00:31] <Cry__Baby> nikitis: Kompozer
[00:31] <samosa> no google chrome for linux?
[00:31] <Devon_C> neonux: para espanol
[00:31] <Halitech> nikitis, you didn't specify ;)
[00:31] <nikitis> ;)
[00:31] <sebsebseb> samosa: there's a development verison
[00:31] <Cry__Baby> samosa: no.. get Opera if you hate FF so much
[00:31] <sebsebseb> samosa: and chromeium which Chomre is based on
[00:31] <minimec> samosa: I think you can just dubble-click on the firefox file and it will lsunch it. You may want to copy the directory to /opt and make a symlink for the firefox launch file in /usr/bin
[00:31] <nikitis> kompozer, ok, any more?
[00:31] <Cry__Baby> !repeat > samosa
[00:31] <Devon_C> who was the person who had the question about Firefox 3.5?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> The default FF icon launches  ff 3.1 for me.
[00:32] <Cry__Baby> Devon_C: samosa
[00:32] <samosa> Cry__Baby: heh, i hate firefox in windows. i have yet to test in ubuntu ;p
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> many of my extensions do not workin FF3.5 it seems. I will stay with 3.1 for now
[00:32] <Guest819> how do i launch mplayer from terminal so it opens in the gui?
[00:32] <Cry__Baby> i use FF and Opera
[00:32] <Devon_C> ah, yeah - I'm having the same problem. I just downloaded the .tar.bz2 file from Mozilla.com and tried installing it in Synaptic after I extracted it
[00:32] <L3d> same buton ownly i hear a sound eaven backspacwe .
[00:32] <Cry__Baby> samosa: :-) ok
[00:32] <Devon_C> but it's still launching FF 3.01
[00:32] <snailshell> When I try to chkdsk /R E:
[00:33] <snailshell> I get "Access Denied"
[00:33] <Cry__Baby> i personally love FF... and the 3.5 is hot
[00:33] <Devon_C> is there a console command for updating it?
[00:33] <L3d> so i hear ..
[00:33] <Ademan> does anyone know what gconftool-2 accepts for boolean values?  probably 0 and 1, "true" and "false" ?
[00:33] <L3d> gl
[00:33] <L3d> imo
[00:33] <CorpX> ive changed the chmod of the file and it still wont run it.   goign to the http://<ip/test.pl forces the download of the perl file
[00:33] <Devon_C> Ademan: that would be my guess 0 being false 1 being true
[00:33] <Barridus> is openbox-gnome no longer usable in jaunty?
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Devon_C:  make an icon that launches 3.5 perhaps? Im not sure its a good idea tomake 3.5 the 'default' at this time.
[00:33] <gmachine_24> FF 3.5 is good but it's called something else in the dropdown menu under "Internet" ... Shiroteku or something...
[00:33] <Devon_C> Dr_Willis: why not?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  ive never noticed a openbox-gnome - you can run gnome and use openbox..
[00:34] <gmachine_24> Devon_C, because it's new
[00:34] <L3d> wait what video x11 or genome multimedia device?
[00:34] <Cry__Baby> anyone who doesnt use FF is either 1. ignorant 2. programmed and conditioned with a MS windows mind-set 3. an Alien
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Devon_C:  it dosent support my extensions for one thing... its the testing branch as people have been saying for another...
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Cry__Baby:  or likes Opera.
[00:34] <Ademan> Devon_C: right, sorry i worded that poorly, i meant, are "true" and "false" acceptable values as well?
[00:34] <Devon_C> I thought it said Final Release on the website O:
[00:34] <legend2440> Guest819: in terminal   gmplayer
[00:34] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: hehe ;)
[00:34] <Chousuke> Cry__Baby: OR using any of the numerous other IE alternatives :P
[00:34] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: what can Opera do that FF cannot?
[00:35] <Cry__Baby> Chousuke: hehe yeah :)
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Cry__Baby:  its all about personal choice.. use what you like.
[00:35] <gmachine_24> can you guys argue about Web browsers someplace else pleaes
[00:35] <gmachine_24> *please
[00:35] <Barridus> Dr_Willis, i can't get ubuntu to use openbox.  i select openbox-gnome (or is it gnome-openbox, whatever :) in the gdm login session selection, and after login i am in metacity not opembox
[00:35] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: i like FF, its stable, solid and secure.
[00:35] <Kjell> !offtopic
[00:35] <tristanmike> I'm trying to dual boot Linux and XP. I've installed XP first on an IDE drive (sdb) and I've installed Ubuntu on the SATA (sda). Installation for both went fine, but upon boot, selecting the XP option yeilds the following "Starting up..." then the screen blinks (as it's handing it off) then it stays at a "black" screen and does nothing. I must power the computer off/on. Any ideas ? Here's my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:35] <tristanmike> 212293/
[00:35] <Chousuke> Cry__Baby: I know a guy who doesn't fit in that category, nor 1 and 2.
[00:35] <Chousuke> Cry__Baby: He must be an alien.
[00:35] <Cry__Baby> Kjell: you an OP?  or the channel police?
[00:35] <dispatch> Can anyone point me in the right direction to get totem to play dvd's
[00:35] <Cry__Baby> Chousuke: lol
[00:36] <Cry__Baby> dispatch: I use VLC
[00:36] <Cry__Baby> dispatch: VLC will play your DVD's
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  make a custom desktop session perhaps for gdm that launches just openbox then set openbox to run what gnome parts you want perhaps.. or it could be something else is   some how making openbox quit and spawn metacity.
[00:36] <dispatch> Cry__Baby: what is VLC
[00:36] <gmachine_24> dispatch, the codecs, etc., should be d/l at the same time as Vlc (SHORT FOR video lan client)
[00:36] <Cry__Baby> !vlc > dispatch
[00:36] <rogue780> Dr_Willis, ok I tried using the '&' token like this "&php -f ./test.php" but it says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&'
[00:37] <tristanmike> !dvd | dispatch
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> rogue780:   huh?  what are youy trying to do exactly?
[00:37] <Cry__Baby> !dvd > dispatch
[00:37] <rogue780> Dr_Willis, I'm trying to run a php script in the background from the command line
[00:38] <Barridus> Dr_Willis, in hardy i simply installed the openbox package and selected it as the session
[00:38] <Cry__Baby> rogue780: youre on the right track, asking our local Doctor Willis :)
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> rogue780:  you REALLY should spend an hr reading a bash tutorial or 2.. the syntax is -->      '  Run_this_command & '
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> rogue780:  note the & is at the END of the command
[00:38] <EtherNet> PEOPLE; there's a new VLC version 1.0.0 !! after 8 years
[00:38] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis is one of the most helpful people I ever met in this channel.
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> Cry__Baby:  wait til you get my bill. :)
[00:39] <gmachine_24> EtherNet, is it any better than the old one
[00:39] <Cry__Baby> Dr_Willis: I already did lol,, paypal was it? lol
[00:39] <EtherNet> gmachine_24, I think it works a bit faster than the latest
[00:39] <Cry__Baby> bbl. have a great day everyone
[00:39] <samosa> system monitor shows usage of like 750mb out of 2GB...isn't that like allot...did i do something wrong? o_O
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> samosa:  usage of what?
[00:40] <Kjell> samosa: ram you mean?
[00:40] <samosa> ye
[00:40] <edbian> samosa: Is your computing just ideling?  ARe you running 10 things right now?
[00:40] <samosa> just firefox with 5 windows.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> samosa:  looks like you got 1.25 gb of ram being wasted.. because its NOT being used to me... :)
[00:40] <samosa> lol
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> samosa:  drive cache = most of the ram i imagine.
[00:40] <wapko> samosa: in the precesses tab you can sort by memory consumption and see what programs are using up all that memory
[00:41] <edbian> samosa: What are you at without firefox running ;)
[00:41] <rjmoore1> does anyone know how to clean up ubuntu...
[00:41] <Kjell> Dr_Willis: That is another way to say it =p
[00:41] <edbian> rjmoore1: What is the mess?
[00:41] <samosa> winxp 5 windows firefox = 400mb
[00:41] <samosa> brb
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> rjmoore1:  damp cloth and some elbow grease?
[00:41] <L3d> 100 mostly .. 54$"3$%£"$£
[00:42] <rjmoore1> idk?? im still learning...does it get messy like windows??
[00:42] <dispatch> Cry__Baby: thanks for the info.. looking into it now
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> rjmoore1:  its not really a problem.
[00:42] <rjmoore1> cahce / temp files /ect..
[00:42] <edbian> rjmoore1: It does not do hardly anything like windows :)
[00:42] <phoenixandthor> hello everyone
[00:42] <phoenixandthor> finally manager to log in
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> rjmoore1:  windows teaches people to do things  they SHOULDENT have to ever do in a good OS. :)
[00:42] <samosa> er wait...how do i save windows....is there like control alt delete here...? crash recovery normally reopens windows.
[00:42] <rjmoore1> well..........i just reinstalled and its running alot faster
[00:42] <edbian> rjmoore1: I understand that you're coming from windows and just learning but as a general rule of thumb.  Don't fix it if it isn't broken. :)
[00:42] <Counterspell> what do you people use for colorizing logs?
[00:42] <nwc_neo> hi there
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Counterspell:  ive seen several tools for that.. but not used any in ages.
[00:43] <nwc_neo> are here any web designers/developers
[00:43] <rjmoore1> and my repositories arnt working
[00:43] <nwc_neo> I need an advice
[00:43] <phoenixandthor> I agree with edbian
[00:43] <ShortWave> I'm a web designer/developer
[00:43] <ShortWave> but why?
[00:43] <nwc_neo> whatapplication is best for image editing
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> ccze - A robust log colorizer Linux Man Page
[00:43] <edbian> nwc_neo: I have a limited knowledge.  What are you trying to do?
[00:43] <ShortWave> I ain't building nothing for free.
[00:43] <phoenixandthor> now what you should do is keep windows on a seperate partition
[00:43] <rjmoore1> gimp!!!!
[00:43] <edbian> phoenixandthor: Thanks! :)
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Counterspell:  i uses ccze ages ago
[00:43] <ShortWave> Fireworks.
[00:43] <Counterspell> i went to the ccze page and it's like ancient and the download links are broken
[00:43] <ShortWave> And/or Corel painter.
[00:43] <gmachine_24> nwc_neo, depends on what kind of "image"
[00:44] <phoenixandthor> then when you find all the right software to replace your windows apps, put windows in a corner and set it on fire
[00:44] <nwc_neo> gmachine_24:  .psd file
[00:44] <ShortWave> Fireworks is largely superior for web-based graphics, Corel Painter is great for whipping stuff up, and Photoshop is probably best for editing photographs.
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> Counterspell:  check the package manager.. proberly somthing replaced it
[00:44] <hagg> hi, does anybody know if it's possible to use "cryptsetup luksOpen UUID=..." instead of "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sd.."?
[00:44] <edbian> nwc_neo: I use gimp for all of my web image editing :)
[00:44] <pixlbox> does anyone know of a good web development ide for ubuntu ?
[00:44] <L3d> libpurple
[00:44] <L3d> ?
[00:44] <edbian> pixlbox: gedit and firefox :)
[00:44] <ShortWave> nui?
[00:44] <hagg> with UUID its not possible, but is there a similar way?
[00:44] <gmachine_24> nwc,neo then I would say GIMP. Which should be installed as part of the basic Ubuntu install
[00:44] <phoenixandthor> BLUEFISH!!!
[00:44] <nwc_neo> pixlbox:  netbeans runs well
[00:45] <phoenixandthor> the perfect way to learn xhtml, among others
[00:45] <ShortWave> pixlbox: NVU
[00:45] <edbian> pixlbox: bluefish works too :)
[00:45] <Kjell> pixlbox: I say the vim is good.
[00:45] <Halitech> nwc_neo, GIMP ftw
[00:45] <jb510> The non of the ATI drivers for older cards work with xorg-xserver 1.6 in Jaunty.  Does anyone know of a work around to use anything other than the default open source drivers? Could I somehow roll back to xorg-xserver from Hardy?
[00:45] <nwc_neo> pixlbox: I'm using aptana, its better for js development
[00:45] <phoenixandthor> NVU is wysiwyg
[00:45] <pixlbox> oh right cool
[00:45] <phoenixandthor> bluefish is raw sourdce editing, but it includes menus for every possible tag
[00:46] <phoenixandthor> and little template wizards
[00:46] <rjmoore1> nwc_neo  ...did you get that??
[00:46] <ShortWave> pixie79: http://nvu.com
[00:46] <shane2peru> nfs help!  :)  how do I determine my name instead of using the ip address???
[00:46] <nwc_neo> rjmoore1: you're about what ?
[00:46] <gmachine_24> Just for the record, the Mozilla software package also has an html editor. It's not as good as NVU and some others, IMO, but for the record
[00:46] <ShortWave> but I prefer Flex/AIR anyway
[00:46] <phoenixandthor> ???
[00:46] <pixlbox> menu for all tags sounds very useful :)
[00:46] <nwc_neo> rjmoore1: Aptana ?
[00:46] <rjmoore1> did you get hat link??
[00:46] <ShortWave> I can't be bothered to screw with javascript, given that it sucks ass for most of my use cases.
[00:46] <gmachine_24> hat link?
[00:46] <phoenixandthor> yeah, for the fossil record
[00:46] <shane2peru> the how too's I read say a name can be used, but it isn't really clear to me how to determine that name.
[00:47] <dragon_> talking ubuntu, are we?
[00:47] <samosa_> yup, with everything closed its 500-600mb. (xp is 300mb) so i must make logical conclusion that my ubuntu has virus, which is why its taking so much ram.
[00:47] <bastidrazor> shane2peru, local network?
[00:47] <rjmoore1> that link??
[00:47] <rjmoore1> lol
[00:47] <phoenixandthor> you realize how old the mozilla suite is?
[00:47] <phoenixandthor> and then is mangles the source when you save a file!
[00:47] <ShortWave> Using javascript for anything other than mouse overs and/or form validation is like trying to build a house with toothpicks.
[00:47] <dragon_> !virus | samosa_
[00:47] <dragon_> samosa_: nice name btw
[00:47] <gmachine_24> phoenixandthor, lol..... I was just sayin'....
[00:47] <shane2peru> also I keep getting this error: mount.nfs: mount system call failed  What am I missing??
[00:47] <wolfgang> uck yeah
[00:47] <phoenixandthor> ubuntu can't have a virus
[00:47] <wolfgang> samosas are so good
[00:47] <pixlbox> ubuntu virus??? dont be silly
[00:47] <samosa_> dragon_: !joke/sarcasm > dragon_
[00:47] <gmachine_24> ubuntu can have a virus
[00:48] <pixlbox> :)
[00:48] <rjmoore1> lolol!!!    what about a phone you could SMELL through!!
[00:48] <samosa_> aww
[00:48] <rww> phoenixandthor: it was replaced with SeaMonkey, which last released 15 days ago.
[00:48] <Pici> !ot
[00:48] <edbian> phoenixandthor: There are viruses for ubuntu but they are all proof of concept.  None free in the wild.
[00:48] <samosa_> bot sux
[00:48] <shane2peru> hmm am I connected?
[00:48] <edbian> shane2peru: You are!
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  if we say no.. what would that mean?
[00:48] <light__> Hey, I have a dvd and it says I don't have permision, I@m using 9.04 and have installed libdvdread4, what else do I need????
[00:48] <phoenixandthor> there has to be some kind of script or daemon running in the backround
[00:48] <Kjell> samosa_: think you can write top in a command and check which program that uses that much ram?
[00:48] <pixlbox> has anyone ever messed around with hadoop
[00:48] <dragon_> samosa_: lol i'd call it a bug
[00:48] <Kalmi_> !dvd | light__
[00:49] <phoenixandthor> it also depends on your hardware. 300-400MB of ram is about normal
[00:49] <SuborbitalPigeon> sebsebseb: wahey
[00:49] <Kalmi_> light__, you need that libcss thingy...
[00:49] <ShortWave> hadoop...hahah
[00:49] <pixlbox> :)
[00:49] <edbian> light__: libdvdcss2
[00:49] <jb510> Anyone know of a workaround for ATI drivers not working with 9.04, at least for old cards?
[00:49] <samosa_> Kjell: thats the problem, there is a list of system files that dont dont that much ram, but there are so many as a whole they have large sum.
[00:49] <rww> light__: specifically, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing%20libdvdcss
[00:50] <phoenixandthor> upgrade you card @ jb510?
[00:50] <tristanmike> jb510: if you feel brave, you can check out this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide
[00:50] <jb510> @phoenix - laptop :)
[00:50] <light__> it says that if I install it, it will conflict with other software
[00:50] <rww> jb510: By "ATI drivers", you mean fglrx? There isn't one.   I figured that, but figured I'd ask...
[00:52] <phoenixandthor> edit^
[00:52] <rww> typ30n3gativ3: depends on where it's stored right now
[00:52] <L3d> i can say tht right?
[00:52] <Flannel> L3d: Please stay on topic
[00:52] <samosa_> edbian: how much ram does ubuntu take with no programs running?
[00:52] <phoenixandthor> samosa_, you dissin firefox?
[00:52] <typ30n3gativ3> I have a load of e-mail - about 300 or so and wanted to archive it, put it on a seperate drive
[00:52] <Kjell> samosa_: Strange then.
[00:52] <edbian> samosa_: You're just idling ?  For me a little less than 200mb typically
[00:52] <tristanmike> After installing the ATI driver on 9.04, xorg has a tendency of maxing the cpu, can anyone help with this ?
[00:52] <samosa_> phoenixandthor: Neveh.
[00:52] <edbian> When I first start up the machine sometimes under 150.
[00:52] <typ30n3gativ3> rww: i'm using kmail
[00:52] <tristanmike> it never releases the cpu either until a logout/in
[00:52] <shane2peru> ok, am I connected now?
[00:52] <benni> why are my ubuntu I dont even
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  yes you are
[00:53] <puff> I'm having a problem related to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gthumb/+bug/34077
[00:53] <Halitech> shane2peru, no ;)
[00:53] <edbian> shane2peru: Again, yes.  You have been.
[00:53] <puff> It appears that the bug is resolved but I'm not seeing my photos and F-spot can't impor tthem.
[00:53] <pixlbox> hadoop? no one has ever set it up ?
[00:53] <benni> What if god was one of us?
[00:53] <phoenixandthor> who was the one with the rediculous claim the ubuntu has a virus?
[00:53] <rww> typ30n3gativ3: ah, okay. I haven't used kmail in a while, so I'm not sure how to do it, but I think there'sa File > Save Message command or something like that. Perhaps the #kubuntu people would know, since it's a KDE app.
[00:53] <Flannel> benni: Please stay on topic
[00:53] <ShortWave> pixlbox: I'm curious what you're going to do with it.
[00:54] <benni> ok what is the topic
[00:54] <rww> !topic | benni
[00:54] <typ30n3gativ3> let me look for that....brb
[00:54] <cabrey> benni, /topic for the channel topic
[00:54] <SuborbitalPigeon> phoenixandthor: depends on your definition I suppose
[00:54] <L3d> word o days .. gaze
[00:54] <dewente> does someone know a good dns free service for my home server?
[00:54] <edbian> phoenixandthor: I said there are some proof of concept viruses but none in the wild.  Are you talking about me?
[00:54] <dragon_> dewente: dyndns.org
[00:54] <Halitech> dewente, dyndns.com
[00:54] <pixlbox> ShortWave i have quite a few old computers and wanted to hook them together as like a backup drive thingy
[00:54] <phix> hi
[00:54] <dewente> that one is no longer free !! Dyndns
[00:54] <samosa_> how can i create log? and like pastebin it or something, cuz i cant tell difference between services which are important/ and those which are unneccesary.
[00:55] <benni> you are too nice I can't even troll you what's wrong with you guys
[00:55] <benni> ;_;
[00:55] <darnell> Can someone tell me how to get the keyring from coming up for my network connection everytime I start my PC?
[00:55] <Ugh> stupid trolls.
[00:55] <cabrey> samosa_, logs are in /var/log
[00:55] <pixlbox> i heard that hadoop is kinda that same as google GFS
[00:55] <phix> Why does NetworkManager exist for? it seems to conflict with /etc/network/interfaces
[00:55] <edbian> cabrey: He's talking about making a list of the processes running.
[00:55] <samosa_> ok thanks
[00:55] <puff> Where does Ubuntu mount a camera when you plug it into a USB cable?  I dont' see it showing up under /media
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> darnell:  you bsically use the config tools to set the password it asks for to be blank. :)  i found the answer in the forums
[00:55] <edbian> samosa_: Are there a few that you're unsure about that you could ask?
[00:55] <cabrey> phix, that is the old debian way of manually managing network interfaces
[00:55] <th0r> puff: it becomes /dev/video
[00:56] <dewente> does someone know a good dns free service for my home server?
[00:56] <ShortWave> pixlbox: "Google GFS"? Or Redhat GFS?
[00:56] <typ30n3gativ3> rww: do you know of any back-up software that can do it?  the 'save as ' option only gets 1 message, not the whole branch
[00:56] <rww> phix: because /etc/network/interfaces isn't user-friendly. If you want to use it, go ahead, and NetworkManager should get out of the way.
[00:56] <samosa_> edbian: what is your total physical ram?
[00:56] <cabrey> phix, nm automatically configures network interfaces now
[00:56] <edbian> 1Gb
[00:56] <shane2peru> does anyone know about nfs setup?
[00:56] <cabrey> dewente, dyndns or no-ip
[00:56] <rww> typ30n3gativ3: you can't select multiple messages and then do that? I swear I did something similar last time I was moving mail around.
[00:56] <samosa_> edbian: ah, well that explains allot.
[00:56] <pixlbox> i read it was a very good copy of googles GFS
[00:56] <puff> th0r: Don't see it there.  This is a standard digital still camera, canon powershot a520.
[00:56] <edbian> samosa_: Such as?
[00:56] <darnell> Dr.Willis: How do I do that?
[00:56] <typ30n3gativ3> let me try that....
[00:56] <phix> I have a HSPDA / UTMS wireless connection to my ISP, I use a sierra USB dongle and NetworkManager likes to delete /dev/ttyUSB[0-2] entries for me, stuffing up my connection
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> darnell:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7470795
[00:56] <phoenixandthor> Okay, the text is moving a little too fast for me
[00:56] <macman_> what is the source for devde
[00:56] <th0r> puff: ah....those should mount as usb drives
[00:56] <dewente> cabrey, dyndns is no longer free
[00:56] <qe2eqe> in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:56] <dragon_> darnell: remove the keyring password. It isn't safe though.
[00:56] <darnell> Dr.Willis: thank you!
[00:57] <th0r> puff: have you turned on the camera?
[00:57] <jonex> hellow everyone
[00:57] <puff> I see it in lsusb, but how do I see where it's mounted?
[00:57] <shane2peru> I keep getting errors after having been through the documentation
[00:57] <cabrey> macman_, you want the source code?
[00:57] <Halitech> dewente, http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ according to here it still has a free service
[00:57] <phix> rww: NetworkManager deletes stuff from /dev
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> darnell:  you run the connfig tool that lets you change the keyring password and enter blank passwords for the 'new' password
[00:57] <samosa_> edbian: the more ram you have the more it takes. I have 2GB...so it takes more ram at idle....i am guessing 4GB ubuntu machine at idle will take a gig at idle?
[00:57] <edbian> dewente: I'm currently using it to host my site.  You can get a sub-domain for free.
[00:57] <cabrey> dewente, their updating service is free, I use it
[00:57] <puff> th0r: yeah, it's on and it's in playback mode.
[00:57] <shane2peru> how do I determine the computer name, so I don't have to use the IP address?
[00:57] <th0r> puff: mount should show if it is mounted
[00:57] <macman_> cabrey: no i want to apt-get install devde
[00:57] <jonex> hey
[00:57] <cabrey> macman_, it is devede
[00:57] <dewente> yes I used to use too
[00:57] <edbian> samosa_: It isn't that cut and dry but generally yes.  The more ram you have the more ubuntu will use.
[00:57] <cabrey> phix, no it doesnt
[00:57] <dewente> but now they change their politic
[00:57] <jonex> i have Ubuntu x64 n i need flash player
[00:57] <phix> rww: also, if I setup a wireless network interface in NetworkManager, do I need to login for it to auto connect?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:   for samba you mean? or somthing else?
[00:57] <darnell> dragon: why isn't it safe? It doesn't come up on my laptop
[00:57] <ShortWave> pixlbox: So you know that "hadoop" is like a suite of things right?
[00:57] <usser> darnell, easier yet, in the connection properties put a checkmark "available for all users"
[00:57] <jerknextdoor> anyone use sbackup?
[00:58] <phix> cabrey: it doesn't?
[00:58] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: NFS, sorry, should have specified that.
[00:58] <darnell> usser: Thank you
[00:58] <edbian> samosa_: 1GB & 200 at idle does not necessarily mean 4GB and 800 @ idle
[00:58] <phix> cabrey: it is deleting /dev entries though
[00:58] <cabrey> samosa_, using ram is good
[00:58] <puff> th0r: mount shows a lot of stuff, but none of it jumps out at me as the camera...
[00:58] <rankinr> jonex: I'd recommend the alpha of flash 10
[00:58] <shane2peru> when I open the terminal it should be what appears after the @ symbol correct Dr_Willis?
[00:58] <Kalmi_> !flash | jonex ... Just click that link on the page, it will install fine...
[00:58] <edbian> samosa_: Take a look at tuning swappiness:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000
[00:58] <th0r> puff: it would show as /dev/sdb or sdc
[00:58] <cabrey> phix, if that is actually the case, something is seriously wrong
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  for nfs. you need a proper hosts file (on my simple lan) or some other way to get hostnames and ip#'s assoicated . samba does it a diffrent way so dosent need the hosts file trick
[00:58] <rww> phix: you have three options: 1) login at the login window and have it automatically open your keychain, 2) login automatically and have it ask for your keychain password, 3) login automatically and set a blank keychain password
[00:58] <rankinr> jonex: technically, it's not supported, but works way better than what Ubuntu supplies
[00:58] <Kalmi_> !flash | jonex
[00:58] <robewald_> good link to recovering a bad partition table: http://unixwiz.net/techtips/recovering-ext2.html#other
[00:58] <phoenixandthor> I got 4GB in my machine with gnome, compiz, and xchat all open and I'm pulling no more then 500MB
[00:59] <pixlbox> ShortWave well i know its software that runs ontop of the OS filesystem and that it has built in replication and stuff
[00:59] <jonex> I went to the flash page and says wrong arquitecture...i think the only have  32 version
[00:59] <th0r> puff: if you are in gnome it should have put an icon on the desktop for the 'drive'
[00:59] <phix> rww: why do I need to set a password at all? my ISP doesn't require one
[00:59] <rww> phix: the third of which is not particularly recommended since it stores stuff in the keychain insecurely
[00:59] <jonex> where i get Alpha?
[00:59] <Kalmi_> !flash | jonex
[00:59] <dragon_> darnell: keyring encrypts your passwords so that no one else could gain access to it. without keyring, if someone gains access to your machine, they will be able to see your passwords in clear text.
[00:59] <macman_> cabrey: E: Couldn't find package devede
[00:59] <L3d> what is a good gui fire wal and anti virus and howto update deffinitions ?
[00:59] <rww> phix: to connect to wireless? usually that'd be a function of your wireless card, not your ISP.
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | L3d
[00:59] <cabrey> macman_, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:59] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: ok, I assume I can google up an example host file?  is that /etc/host file?
[00:59] <Wolter> L3d, you don't really need an antivirus here
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> L3d:  you preoberly dont need either..
[01:00] <edbian> samosa_: What you should notice is that 200mb at idle but it is nearly impossible to max out your ram.  Try opening as many thing as you possibly can.  I can never seem to get over 500 mb
[01:00] <phix> rww: no, it has a SIM card in it
[01:00] <rankinr> jonex: one second, I'm googling it
[01:00] <jonex> ok
[01:00] <Wolter> L3d, this is not windows ^.^
[01:00] <Kalmi_> !av
[01:00] <typ30n3gativ3> rww:  you da man!!  that worked.  saved a 162mb file with extension 'mbox'
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  its a simple file layout. I tend to cheat and use the 'findsmb' command to give me  the basic info  when making my own. :)
[01:00] <rww> phix: oh, that type of wireless. no idea about that.
[01:00] <dragon_> !virus | L3d
[01:00] <phix> rww: GPRS / HSDPA / that other one, UMTS or something
[01:00] <tristanmike> I'm trying to dual boot Linux and XP. I've installed XP first on an IDE drive (sdb) and I've installed Ubuntu on the SATA (sda). Installation for both went fine, but upon boot, selecting the XP option yeilds the following "Starting up..." then the screen blinks (as it's handing it off) then it stays at a "black" screen and does nothing. I must power the computer off/on. Any ideas ? Here's my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:00] <tristanmike> 212293/
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  ip.address  hostname      is about all there is  to it.
[01:01] <rww> typ30n3gativ3: awesome. glad i could help :)
[01:01] <typ30n3gativ3> rww:  thx again - gotta go
[01:01] <darnell> Dragon; thanks for info.
[01:01] <phix> cabrey: so any ideas?
[01:01] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: that kind of defeats the dhcp setup
[01:01] <puff> th0r: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/212309/
[01:01] <dragon_> tristanmike: could you confirm that pastebin link?
[01:01] <cabrey> phix, i didnt see any of your replies
[01:01] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: everything keeps pointing me to setup static IP's on my lan
[01:02] <usser> shane2peru, setup a dns server
[01:02] <cabrey> phix, give me a quick summary
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  ive seen systems where if you have an ide and sata drive and boot one or the other  the drive 'order' switches.. sda became sdb and so on. You COULD just tell the bios to boot the windows hard drive directly bypassing grub.
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  my router lets me  be sure the machines always get the same ip. So basicially they are static.
[01:02] <rankinr> jonex: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[01:02] <tristanmike> dragon_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/212293/
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  so it does not defate dhcp. :) they still get the other info from dhcp.
[01:02] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: yes, changing the boot order boots windows, but that's a pain in the arse, :P
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  and any new machines still use dhcp.
[01:03] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: mine too, gotta love Linksys, so I can just put that into a host file and be good to go?
[01:03] <th0r> puff: it appears ubuntu is seeing the camera being plugged in, but not recognizing it as a camera and not mounting it as a drive
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  edit the menu.lst and alter the windows entry . its proberly setting the wrong hd  perhaps.
[01:03] <phix> cabrey: oh, well I want to connect to my ISPs wireless (GPRS / HSDPA / UMTS or whatever service) on boot up, without logging in.  It would be nice if the user can tell if it is up or not (ie some level of NetworkManager usefulness), but that is optional
[01:03] <th0r> puff: what kind of camera?
[01:03] <shane2peru> usser: I will have to check that out.
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  yea. be carefull.. if the ips DO change and the hosts file is wrong.. that can cause all sorts of odd issues.
[01:03] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: ok, this is what I was thinking, you mean the mapping, right ?
[01:04] <Kalmi_> jonex: The easier way:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash  (The 32 bit version works fine (most of the time) on 64 systems...)
[01:04] <phix> cabrey: my main issue is, when I do log into the GUI, the NetworkManager tries to reconfigure my wireless device, as a consiquence the /dev/ttyUSB[0-2] devices get removed, which causes my established network connection to die
[01:04] <edbian> tristanmike: perhaps (hd1,0)
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  yep somthing like that.. been ages since i last had a ide+sata system. My new machiens - i just hit F11 and it lets me pick what HD to boot.. makes it trivial
[01:04] <phix> cabrey: did you get all of that/
[01:04] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks for the info, much appreciated
[01:04] <puff> th0r: Nothing on my desktop;  when I look at it in nautilus it's there and it shows me some folders and a message about "This folder contains digital media" and a button to open f-spot.
[01:04] <puff> Hm.
[01:04] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: I know, I'm running ancient hardware, don't judge me :P
[01:05] <cabrey> phix, yes, I have never heard of nm trying to manipulate device files before O_o
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> puff:  i hate that 'this folder contains....' bull.. :) its always wrong for me also.. and its NEVER actually handy when it is right.
[01:05] <th0r> puff: ok....then nautilus is seeing it. can you open f-spot and see your pictures?
[01:05] <puff> th0r: Okay, so I just turned it off and back on, and this time, since i'd installed gthumb, the popup offered to let me open it in gthumb as well as f-spot.
[01:05] <justfil> need help to compile rhythmbox
[01:05] <puff> DrMe too.
[01:05] <shane2peru> another NFS issue I keep getting is this error:  mount.nfs: mount system call failed   -  Google doesn't seem to be my friend tonight on this
[01:05] <cabrey> phix, are you running it as root by chance?
[01:05] <phix> cabrey: well it is either doing to directly, or unloading and loading the module again, which is havinbg the same effect
[01:05] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: why?
[01:05] <puff> th0r: No, when I open f-spot I only see my old pictures.
[01:05] <tristanmike> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/212293/ , that's my menu.lst... as you can see, there is mapping, but all the system does now is give me "Starting up..." then blinks to hand over control and nothing
[01:05] <puff> th0r: When I open with gthumb, I get this erropr:
[01:06] <justfil> because I'm using debian and in the repos there's some sucky strange version
[01:06] <phix> LMJ: :D, how's it going buddy?  long time
[01:06] <edbian> tristanmike: What the hell?  Why are you mapping back and forth like that?
[01:06] <shane2peru> another NFS issue I keep getting is this error:  mount.nfs: mount system call failed   any ideas on that?
[01:06] <tristanmike> edbian: don't know, that's the config that was created
[01:06] <tristanmike> edbian: I figured it knew what it was doing, lol
[01:07] <cabrey> phix, well that sounds like a major bug so if you have a launchpad account you could report a bug there :/
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  mixxed ide +sata sstems.. are a tad.. unusual in ways. :)
[01:07] <puff> th0r: "Unable to mount Canon, Inc. Digital IXUS 50 (normal mode) / IXY Digital 55 (normal mode) / Powershot A520 (PTP mode) / Powershot SD400 (normal mode)" and then in smaller type below it, "Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device."
[01:07] <puff> th0r: It's the A520, btw.
[01:07] <edbian> tristanmike: Perhaps it does.  It looks strange to me.  I don't really know what else to try.  I don't really wanna mess with that.  Sorry bud :( Wish I could help more.
[01:07] <tristanmike> edbian: truth be told, I've seen many "fixes" for this issue and adding that mapping has done it... in my case, the mapping is there and isn't working
[01:07] <phix> so any way, where ar the docs on NetworkManager? it is a part of gnome right? does this mean that is it only activated once there is a logged on gnome session? or is there a daemon that gets started at boot time?
[01:08] <L3d> srry got .. cut of there , gone read a litle ..
[01:08] <Wolter> sebsebseb,
[01:08] <mercutio22> I am getting crazy system halts, possibly related to the problem this guy mention in this thread... http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1120895. My system just halted right now. I read somewhere I could log in the machine via ssh and pull an error log with dmesg. CAn someone assist me?
[01:08] <puff> phix:  There is daemon process for network-manager.
[01:08] <edbian> tristanmike: I guess it's safe to just remove the mapping entirely.  Try to write your own based on the example a little higher up in your menu.lst
[01:08] <L3d> btw opera sgood..
[01:08] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: is there a way to reset the /etc/hosts with something??? sudo /etc/init.d/hosts??  restart?
[01:08] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: combined with a strange feeling that the SATA is not controlled, how shall I say, normally... it's almost like an after thought with my board, "Hey, let's add SATA".... ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  no need to do that. its read as needed by the apps.
[01:09] <tristanmike> edbian: did that, and then it froze at the "Starting up..." screen, didn't hand off
[01:09] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[01:09] <SoxFan> good evening...  i have a novice question about the memory check on the installation disk...
[01:09] <th0r> puff: found this in a google search http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250328
[01:09] <pixlbox> does anyone know how to get vsftp to verify via mysql, ive tried the sourceforge tutorial but its not working
[01:09] <tristanmike> edbian: iirc, it was late the other night, but I'm pretty sure that was the result of removing the mapping lines
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  at the time.. they were basically just tossed on the boards. :) i got 2 mbs that way
[01:09] <mercutio22> or maybe I should do I filesystem check
[01:09] <edbian> tristanmike: You could try to install grub to the ide drive as well and boot to that drive rather than the sata drive.  Just a shot in the dark though.
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  once the distos started using sd## for ide drives..i accidently formated my ide drive thinking it was the sata drive... DOH
[01:10] <justfil> need help to compile rhythmbox - the configure script stops in 'No package 'libsoup-2.4' found' though I have 2.4.1
[01:10] <quentusrex> anyone know of a RAID-5 tutorial that is pure command line?
[01:10] <mercutio22> when I try fsck, it says the system has to be unmounted.. so I have to do this from a live cd?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> mercutio22:  thats one way
[01:10] <puff> th0r: Argh... that really, really, really sucks.  Thanks
[01:10] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: you need libsoup2.4-dev or whatever it's called
[01:10] <mercutio22> Dr_Willis, and the other way?
[01:10] <Flannel> mercutio22: It's easier to do it during a reboot: `sudo touch /forcefsck` will make it fsck next time you booyt
[01:10] <tristanmike> edbian: that could probably work, I sorta wanted to keep it all separate but if that's the end means, it's better than changing the boot order every time my 'ole man wants to play BF2
[01:10] <Wolter> L3d, is opera better than minefield in your opinion?
[01:10] <justfil> I have it, SuborbitalPigeon
[01:10] <mercutio22> Flannel, thanks
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> mercutio22:  unmunt the filesystem :) but if its in use.. you cant..
[01:11] <puff> Wtf is the point of a USB jack if you're not going to make it actually possible to get data off the device via USB???
[01:11] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I was confused for a moment when I saw 2 sd devices... I was like, I don't have 2 sata...
[01:11] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: it needs to be a new enough version
[01:11] <phix> puff: nice, is it usefull?
[01:11] <th0r> puff: also found an item that says they can access the camera using gtkam, but that is old info
[01:11] <pixlbox> does anyone know how to get vsftp to verify via mysql, ive tried the sourceforge tutorial but its not working
[01:11] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: I just bought the drive, been working with the 80gb IDE since I bought the computer
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  yep. I learned the hard way to be carefull
[01:11] <twisted> hello everyone, I have looked around every where but still need help. I am trying to setup a ad hoc to share my files with my psp. The psp has to have the addresses manually inputed into it.
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  ive been upgrading to 1tb drives on my machines.. :) The Hugeness!
[01:12] <justfil> SuborbitalPigeon: Well, it is, the configure asks for 2.4 and i have 2.4.1.
[01:12] <puff> phix: Depends on what you mean by useful;  I don't find it useful, it keeps trying to "help" and I keep th wanting to say, "You want to help?  Then DON'T help."
[01:12] <th0r> puff: try, in a terminal, gphoto2 --auto-detect
[01:12] <pixlbox> sorry howtoforge
[01:12] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: 2.4 is just the ABI version, it'll likely be a fairly recent one
[01:12] <linxeh> puff: hmm I've got an a620, but sadly no ubuntu box around atm :/
[01:12] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: I imagine... 640+80 is enough until I get a new computer...
[01:13] <justfil> SuborbitalPigeon, so, what do I need to do to compile it?
[01:13] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: how are you on ATI ? LOL, my xorg likes to max out my cpu and never releases control
[01:13] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: could you tell me what apt-cache policy libsoup2.4-dev says?
[01:13] <L3d> and xterminal is rather weird gives a computer elektro voice ..i already mention ?
[01:14] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: my xorg seems rather barren too
[01:14] <coffeej> I need help getting gspca set to (hopefully) get my webcam working
[01:14] <twisted> sorry i should mention i am using jaunty
[01:14] <L3d> needed to restart .. not ownly ff locking up :/
[01:14] <linxeh> puff: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/some-of-known-ubuntu-904jaunty-jackalope-bugs-with-workarounds.html
[01:15] <CorpX> how do you make the screen slide across
[01:15] <CorpX> im doing it accidentally
[01:15] <CorpX> but i cant do it on purpose
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> CorpX:  mouse wheel perhaps?
[01:15] <sukuri> CorpX: scroll wheel outside the current window
[01:15] <L3d> theres that console bit again .. sigh
[01:15] <CorpX> ah
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike:  xorg.conf files are minimal now a days
[01:16] <shane2peru> ok, I'm fed up with inconsistent working of NFS, can someone recommend an alternative?  Please not samba, I sharing on lan with all linux boxes
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  odd. ive had no issues with nfs.  i dont use it a lot however.
[01:16] <linxeh> shane2peru: CIFS
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  sshfs perhaps>
[01:16] <L3d> installing xorg and trying to back somethin somethin
[01:16] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: xorg takes over when I select System-Preferences-Display... which doesn't fully load
[01:16] <justfil> SuborbitalPigeon, here it is -> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/output.txt
[01:17] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: I used to use ssh quite a bit, but NFS is being difficult for me.
[01:17] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: I have to logout/in to regain control, it kills my cpu
[01:17] <shane2peru> linxeh: CIFS?  what is it, similar to NFS?
[01:17] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: which rhythmbox is this?
[01:17] <coffeej> I need help getting gspca working to get my webcam up and running
[01:17] <L3d> i noticed tht 2 mean dont click display until proper drv instal .
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> !cifs
[01:17] <linxeh> shane2peru: its what smb evolved into
[01:17] <n8tuser> cifs is new name for samba
[01:18] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: perhaps I never got nfs setup correctly, and now it is a mess, I have only connected once or twice with it.
[01:18] <justfil> SuborbitalPigeon, you can see the version in the output - rhythmbox-0.12.3
[01:18] <linxeh> n8tuser: no, its the new name for SMB
[01:18] <linxeh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block
[01:18] <n8tuser> i stand corrected
[01:18] <shane2peru> linxeh: wouldn't that be more aimed to connect windows boxes to linux over lan?
[01:18] <L3d> heh
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  start over at the beginning with the nfs setup perhaps? its not too hard to configure. (at least not compared to  samba) :)
[01:18] <koshari> shane2peru cifs is pretty good, only issue is when shutting down a comp cifs mounts take a while to close
[01:18] <linxeh> shane2peru: CIFS works nicely with unixes too
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> cifs i thouhg was smb enhanced to take into account more unix features
[01:19] <L3d> what does catalyst actualy ad to this whole ati thing ?
[01:19] <SuborbitalPigeon> justfil: looking at configure.ac, you need libsoup 2.26; also, debian is irc://irc.oftc.net/#debian
[01:19] <puff> Whoops, lost th0r.
[01:19] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: right, it seems fairly simple, is it possible my hardware is giving me problems?  Perhaps router isn't playing nice?
[01:19] <usser> koshari, shane2peru thats if you use NetworkManager which is a total crap
[01:19] <puff> Well gphoto2 -a found the camera.
[01:19] <usser> koshari, shares timing out i mean
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  check dmesg output also.. i had a network card that  had fakey drivers once.
[01:19] <shane2peru> usser: nope I use wicd, had some probs with network manager
[01:19] <koshari> usser: i dont use network manager, i use an fstab entry
[01:19] <puff> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[01:20] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: will do,
[01:20] <usser> koshari, yea fstab to mount shares, how do you connect to the internet?
[01:20] <nellmathew> hey guys, for whatever reason, my panel and desktop trash icons aren't synced.. sometimes when i delete a file my desktop trash icon will change, but my panel won't.. sometimes it's the other way around.
[01:20] <twisted> hello everyone, I have looked around every where but still need help. I am trying to setup a ad hoc to share my files with my psp. The psp has to have the addresses manually inputed into it.
[01:20] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: dmesg|grep eth0 spit out a buuuuunch of stuff, does it log every connection?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> I Finally figured out how to mount a smb share that has a space in its 'name' via Fstab.....
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  not sure.. it logs a lot of things.
[01:21] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis,  name/%20 here ?
[01:21] <CorpX> what's the best torrent client for ubuntu
[01:21] <usser> !torrent
[01:22] <usser> !best
[01:22] <justfil> I like Deluge
[01:22] <koshari> CorpX much depends on the features you want
[01:22] <nellmathew> CorpX, i like deluge too
[01:22] <L3d> i got a whole map that onwly displays right in dolphin ,can wrtite internal ntfs ,the option isnt optional with the one click prog .. difrent partiton tho
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  nope.. gotta use \040 for the space...
[01:22] <L3d> not mounted
[01:22] <bastidrazor> CorpX, i like ktorrent
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  %20 is html/url synatax :)
[01:22] <CorpX> i like utorrent on windows, so what's something similiar?
[01:22] <shane2peru> CorpX: Transmission is installed by default I think
[01:22] <justfil> yes, it is - Deluge is like utorrent
[01:22] <L3d> sgood
[01:22] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis, yeah i couldn't remember i knew it had numbers in it.. i'll brain mark that.. 040
[01:22] <nellmathew> CorpX, try deluge if you're using gnome, ktorrent if you're on KDE
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> CorpX:  i use transmission.. or you can use wine to run utorrent
[01:22] <koshari> CorpX ktorrent would be closest to utorrent
[01:22] <jb510> can a home folder (on it's own partition) be shared between a 9.04 and 8.10 installation?  Assuming they don't run at the same time?
[01:23] <puff> linxeh: I'm not sure that's relevant.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  took me a Long time to research/google/discover that
[01:23] <linxeh> puff: nor me now, reading it hehehe
[01:23] <puff> linxeh: However, I tried killing  the process, now I don't get any automount behavior at all.
[01:23] <linxeh> puff: hmm, what about restarting it ?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> jb510:  yes. but watch out for different user id's  and gnome settings/change/conflits ith different versions
[01:23] <CorpX> i like the screenshots of ktorrent
[01:23] <jb510> I think I have to roll back to 8.10....  :( until there is a video driver for x1k ati cards...
[01:23] <L3d> think about this i got 2 kernels .11 and .15 or sommeting and ia stil can load xp
[01:24] <L3d> i removed linux renel .11
[01:24] <L3d> heh
[01:24] <L3d> usb gets me 2 live
[01:24] <L3d> pff
[01:25] <L3d> eaven instal safe graph mode leaves me in live sesion
[01:25] <jb510> @dr_willis - Thanks...  I'll give a side by side install a shot...  my home is ext3...  9.04's is ext4 but that shouldn't matter....
[01:25] <jb510> @dr willis - can they share the same swap partition?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> jb510:  older release wont be able to read ext4
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> jb510:  they can shre swap. if you dont use hibernate/suspend features.
[01:25] <L3d> i use ext2
[01:25] <jb510> @dr_willis - I know ext4 can't be read by 8.10, not a problem, just system stuff.  everything else is ext3
[01:26] <L3d> ext2
[01:26] <jb510> @dr_willis - Wondering though about the swap parition, can it be used by both since I think it gets used for hibernation
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> jb510:  thats what i said.. :) DONT use hibernate/suspend...
[01:27] <jb510> Ahh...  I thought that was becuse of the user account stuff...  no problem, probably won't use 9.04 until someone a better ati driver... i need something that properly support dual monitors
[01:28] <SuborbitalPigeon> night
[01:28] <L3d> notify area clear ?
[01:28] <jb510> @dr_willis - thanks! over the cliff I go....
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> jb510:  ati just keeps dumping more and more things  out of the fglrx drivers.. so  i wouldnt be holding your breath for them to make better drivers soon.
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> I rember why i switched from ati a few yrs back :)
[01:28] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: someone changed the Ubuntu docs NFS how to since I last visited!  :)
[01:29] <L3d> its xorg ?
[01:29] <shane2peru> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  heh - whats changed?
[01:29] <shane2peru> I think I had some old docs or something
[01:29] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: ^^^
[01:29] <r4ban> how can i "takeover" an X session that i opened remotely with windows NXclient?
[01:29] <jb510> @dr_willis - I'm hoping the Radeon/RaseonHD group will start supporting X1k cards since ATI isn't anymore...  can't believe ATI f'd up like this, freezing their legacy support right before xserver changed :(
[01:30] <Hades_pt> hey all
[01:30] <L3d> 9000
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  nfs has basically been the same for years..
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> jb510:  yep. I agree.. and they were all big on 'supporting linux' in their press releases not too long ago.
[01:30] <fool_> hey guys i can't find the UFW log anywhere, where can i find it ?
[01:30] <L3d> uh amd s
[01:30] <L3d> lolz
[01:31] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: this doc sets up the hosts.allow and deny, and the exports file is slightly different, I kept getting no_subtree_check errors, and this has that in the exports file
[01:31] <L3d> the amdays
[01:31] <halberd> when using Firefox and flash, there are often certain problems
[01:31] <pam> Is there a centralized (scriptable) configuration tool? Something like gconftool/dpkg --divert/update-alternatives but for any package?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> shane2peru:  i never messed with those. :)
[01:31] <L3d> im going opera
[01:31] <halberd> for example when I go to the menu or perform some actions, the firefox window will disappear for a moment showing the desktop
[01:31] <koshari> Dr_Willis i steer very clear with regard to radeon after i lashed out big bucks for a 9250 which got trounces by an old mx2
[01:31] <koshari> using native drivers
[01:32] <L3d> its a patch with ubuntu 9.04
[01:32] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: and no async, odd, I must have dug up an old page or something last time I did this
[01:32] <L3d> firef
[01:32] <Hades_pt> fool_ try grep UFW /var/log/syslog
[01:32] <jb510> @Dr_Willis - ATI's website still touts how they work integrally with the open source community... blah blah blah...  anyway, I'll see if Hardy can do what I'm looking for (setting up old laptop as a media server on my TV, need proper dual monitor support).  Off I go..  thanks again.
[01:32] <Hades_pt> or
[01:32] <L3d> sows stayin on the 3.0
[01:32] <jefinc> !enter
[01:32] <L3d> and adobe also needs reinstals
[01:32] <fool_> Hades_pt: nothing in there or anyother place in /var/log
[01:33] <Hades_pt> grep UFW /var/log/syslog | less
[01:33] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: as well as the ip setup, I have 192.168.1/24 they have 192.168.1/<IP_ADDRESS>  Which I don't understand
[01:33] <L3d> right?
[01:34] <L3d> sow adobe kinda ..
[01:34] <jefinc> !enter | L3d
[01:34] <dewente> I want to test my apache server, any one have a proxy tester webpage?
[01:34] <L3d> sorry
[01:34] <s_> ya regreso amiguitos
[01:34] <s_> me extrañaran
[01:34] <shane2peru> is it possible with NFS to have the server be a client too?  in other words, have both computers on the lan servers and clients?
[01:34] <jefinc> !spanish | s_
[01:36] <rikki_max> Hello Which package should i reconfigure if i can view console without gdm but with i cannot view anything? and yes i know its config
[01:36] <coffeej> anyone able to help with gspca
[01:36] <macman_> anyone
[01:36] <macman_> anyone heard of flv2dvd
[01:36] <fool_> hey guys, i've turn ufw logging to full, grep all of /var/log but found no trace of ufw log. what should i do ?
[01:37] <slacker-> Hi. I'm trying to install hardy on an asus p5ql-em board with an intel ich10 ide controller but the installer doesn't find the right driver
[01:37] <phoenixandthor> stop using ufw, and start using guarddog
[01:37] <coffeej> \join #xubuntu
[01:37] <slacker-> intrepid installer loads ata_piix driver but this one doesn't appear on the list of available driver for the hardy cd. what can I do?
[01:37] <bastidrazor> coffeej,  /
[01:38] <fool_> phoenixandthor: that's not what i was looking for
[01:38] <coffeej> yeah, sorry!
[01:39] <quidnunc> How come I can't see a particular windows share in "Network"->"Windows Network"?
[01:39] <quidnunc> Others show up but not the one I am looking for
[01:39] <slak3> hi people.. anyone can help me?
[01:40] <slak3> problems with sound win ubuntu 9
[01:40] <morlo> hello
[01:40] <slak3> don't play sound in firefox hello
[01:40] <Hades_pt> fool_ u need enable logging
[01:41] <slak3> i tryed
[01:41] <fool_> Hades_pt: i turn on full loggin
[01:41] <Halitech> slak3, can you get sound outside ff?
[01:41] <mohammed510> I have a question about the ls command
[01:42] <slak3> Halitech: yes
[01:42] <Hades_pt> do u read the man ?
[01:42] <Guest46840> hi i am new to ubuntu i have the effects all the way up i notice when you drag the window it its like water but how to you flip the screen in like a cube
[01:42] <Halitech> slak3, where are you trying to get sound?
[01:42] <Jeaton> what package is it to get all the restricted codecs and so forth?
[01:42] <Hades_pt> sry mate i cant help you too rookie
[01:42] <slak3> my sound in firefox worked perfect before that install in a sound blaster board
[01:42] <mohammed510> When I do ... ls -ld somedirectory .... The result shows that the it is fixed at 4096
[01:43] <Guest46840> i dont have any sound in ubuntu lol
[01:43] <bastidrazor> !dvd | Jeaton follow the link
[01:43] <mohammed510> Why??
[01:43] <Guest46840> im not sure
[01:43] <Guest46840> i get a errror
[01:43] <Guest46840> The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[01:43] <Guest46840> im new to linux i dont know how to configure so
[01:43] <bastidrazor> Jeaton, also install ubuntu-restricted-extras  .. that is if you're on ubuntu.
[01:43] <Jeaton> thanks
[01:44] <morlo> i have a weird problem with booting from cd, i cant boot anything but the many years old windows install and a reatogo live cd also very old, not any linux live cd or install cd, so im  back and stuck with windows any ideas?
[01:44] <Guest46840> why when i scroll does it like switch screens?
[01:45] <mohammed510> When I do ... ls -ld somedirectory .... The result shows that the it is fixed at 4096
[01:45] <mohammed510> Why??
[01:45] <SideWinder> guest46840 when you are on the desktop and hit the scroll wheel you switch desktops
[01:46] <slak3> anyone can help me?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> mohammed510:  its showing the size of teh directory.. not the sum of the size of the contents
[01:46] <SideWinder> if you want to scroll in say firefox make sure that is your active window ie click inside firefox
[01:46] <Hades_pt> fool was that ufw logging LEVEL high
[01:46] <nztal> how do i set ufw to its default (new ubuntu install) configuration from the command line ?  i think install gufw changed it's default rules
[01:47] <mohammed510> Dr_willis: The problem is
[01:47] <fool_> Hades_pt: ufw logging full
[01:47] <slacker-> ok, I had to set the sata controller to ahci, rather than ide. that fixed it. thanks. cu
[01:47] <mohammed510> Dr_willis: when thought of that but when I do ...... ls -ld /etc/ >>> then result is
[01:47] <SideWinder> slak3 does your sound work outside of ff
[01:48] <slak3> yes.. my sound work outside ff
[01:48] <mohammed510> Dr_Williws: drwxr-xr-x 143 root root 12288 2009-07-08 03:33 /etc
[01:48] <slak3> but i know that the problem is because anythign wrong with config flash
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> mohammed510:  i notice a few other dirs show a different # also. /lost+found also.. but ive no idea why. or why you even need those #'s
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> mohammed510:  /proc and /sys show up a 0 :) those are virtual directorys however
[01:49] <SideWinder> what version of fire fox are you on?
[01:49] <L3d> imoff ..
[01:49] <slak3> ff 3
[01:49] <slak3> ff 3.0.11
[01:50] <dewp> hey guys
[01:50] <Kjell> !hi | dewp
[01:50] <sage_> http://403chan.org/wakaba/src/1223324374104.jpg
[01:50] <slak3> Ursinha eh brasileira?
[01:50] <SideWinder> is it only broken with flash?
[01:50] <mohammed510> Dr_Willis: I was explaining for some students the idea of the 4096 , But when I gave the example of /etc I was shocked
[01:50] <slak3> yes
[01:50] <mohammed510> Dr_Willis: How can I know the idea of these things?
[01:50] <slak3> youtube, etc
[01:51] <brebrebre> i just got locke permanently banned in #Roms because apaprently i said the N-word while drunk, and i dont even remember doing it
[01:51] <brebrebre> :(
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> mohammed510:  i notice some links are '11' and some are '33' also.
[01:51] <slak3> play video without sound
[01:51] <Ursinha> slak3, yes
[01:51] <LadyNikon> brebrebre: !ot
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> mohammed510:  and some are '4'
[01:51] <bazhang> !ot > brebrebre
[01:51] <slak3> qual sua distribuicao?
[01:51] <Hades_pt> olá :)
[01:51] <mohammed510> Dr_Willis: I mean Who I have to ask or what is the link I have to follow to know the idea
[01:51] <LadyNikon> thank you bazhang
[01:51] <bazhang> brebrebre, take chat elsewhere
[01:51] <dewp> i connected a defective USB drive on my usb port and want to backup all data. its already that defective that it could not be mounted anymore: http://pastebin.com/m107b6a1d
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> mohammed510:  google for 'what ls output means' perhaps?
[01:51] <dewp> i'd love to have some help with that
[01:51] <dewp> i need to secure the data on it
[01:52] <dewp> can i "dd if" ... it somehow?
[01:52] <SideWinder> there is a bug in some of the flash plugins but i hear upgrading to flash 10 works
[01:52] <brebrebre> i just realized this. a bot messaged me. im new on irc, just on lockes comp. thus why i keep getting banned. but thanks for atleast telling me. Bye
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> dewp:  heres a specialized 'dd_rescue' command that lets you easier dd it to a file, you could then try to mount/repair
[01:52] <emarus> Hey there everyone - I've got Ubuntu 9.04 installed (also tried this on 8.1) and the NIC that I'm using is a 3com 3c900-tpo. It's not being recognized as an 'eth' but rather as 'pan0'. I can't use it at all. Any ideas?
[01:53] <dewp> wow, that sounds great
[01:53] <twisted> hello everyone, I have looked around every where but still need help. I am trying to setup a ad hoc to share my files with my psp. The psp has to have the addresses manually inputed into it.
[01:53] <twisted> sorry i keep repeating but no one has a answer
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> twisted:  by address you mean the ip#? or SSID? or MacAddress?
[01:54] <rdw200169> twisted, you're trying to set up a ad-hoc wireless network to share files with, right
[01:54] <twisted> yep
[01:54] <rdw200169> twisted, ok, here you go.  you set up the wireless part with iwconfig.
[01:54] <SideWinder> close firefox, uninstall flash with this command sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[01:54] <twisted> rdw2001 yes im setting up the ad hoc so nethostfs will allow psp to connect to it but i need to set ip and subnet and gateway mask
[01:54] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Ok it's 3 am, I have a deadline and a headache, and just discovered that I have no idea on how to spellcheck latex in ubuntu: kile does not use the aspell switch to avoid latex commands, emacs does not find ispell which is not in ubuntu anymore, gedit can't change the aspell command either
[01:54] <Le-Chuck_ITA> please somebody help me! :)
[01:55] <rdw200169> twisted, but, that doesn't solve all your problems.  you must also a) set up a dhcp server to provide the address to the psp (which you mentioned isn't necessary) or you use ifconfig or ip to set a static ip on the wireless interface.
[01:55] <SideWinder> install flash 10 with sudo dpkg -i sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[01:55] <dewp> Dr_Willis, but my USB drive cannot be mounted. is there a way to force the mount? sorry for my newbie questions :-(
[01:55] <SideWinder> restart firefox and your done
[01:55] <rdw200169> twisted, its really easy to set ip addresses.  do research on using ifconfig or using the window-based tools that are provided with ubuntu (not NeworkManager)
[01:55] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: a rought way to do it now is to copy and paste your text to openoffice and let it do the job
[01:56] <phix> hmmm
[01:56] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: you mean from the pdf?
[01:56] <phix> how do I disable NetworkManager?
[01:56] <phix> I hate it
[01:56] <rdw200169> twisted, also, make sure there isn't a firewall running or in the way
[01:56] <rdw200169> phix, you can just uninstall it ;)
[01:56] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: the latex code
[01:56] <phix> rdw200169: yeah ok, but I want gnome on there still :)
[01:56] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: yes but there are lots of commands in it :(
[01:56] <nellmathew> hey guys, in bash how would i ONLY get the date (mm/dd/year)? $date returns the time ect right now... i don't like how cron's daily script only works at 12pm or 11, or w/e it seems to be doing
[01:56] <rdw200169> phix, oh, right, its part of the ubuntu-desktop package...
[01:57] <phix> rdw200169: I am just sick of NetworkManager conflicting with shit and not working correctly
[01:57] <phix> it is a POS
[01:57] <twisted> rdw200169 okay so network manager is out of the question is there a good window based tool that could help me with this?
[01:57] <bazhang> phix, watch the language
[01:57] <the1corrupted> Hello, I'm having an issue with running a windows program on WINE.  It's a web-based application, but after about five minutes, my internet connection seems to become overburdened with data and I end up lagging out.  Any help?
[01:57] <emarus> Sorry for repeating myself but I'm pretty desperate - the NIC that I'm using is a 3com 3c900-tpo. It's not being recognized as an 'eth' but rather as 'pan0'. I can't use it at all. Any ideas?
[01:57] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: yea but you should be able to read through and see red lines
[01:57] <phix> bazhang: what? I am, I have a civil tounge
[01:57] <rdw200169> twisted, ifconfig will do it, thats on the command line, but i think that will conflict with that horrible NetworkManager
[01:57] <Le-Chuck_ITA> hmm thanks, that's a possibility. I first try aspell by hand :)
[01:58] <phix> rdw200169: I hate it! :(
[01:58] <phoenixandthor> chuck NetworkManager, install Wicd
[01:58] <rdw200169> phix, i know i know, me too.  i can't remember how i got mine to shut up
[01:58] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: just have eveything between \begin{document} ... \ebd{document}
[01:58] <samosa> Hello
[01:58] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: I am spellchecking a 10 file document :)
[01:58] <twisted> rdw200169 i believe so it says it can not be assured from here network manager is main client. Or such ..
[01:59] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I don't remember how I did that last time
[01:59] <samosa> where is that one person i was talking to...
[01:59] <dewp> http://pastebin.com/m107b6a1d <- thats what the log says when i connect the drive. but how can i mount it or get all possible data from it with ddrescue?
[01:59] <rdw200169> twisted, i'm not sure, but i think you can set manual ip addresses directly from NetworkManager, i just don't know because i don't use it
[01:59] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Well I assume you are in a hurry
[02:00] <samosa> ok now it show 370 mb
[02:00] <samosa> ram
[02:00] <twisted> aww okay :) i found a web page with setting up using ifconfig
[02:00] <samosa> so ram is ok...
[02:00] <Kjell> samosa: That is what my os using now
[02:00] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: in front of me sits an aspell on ncurses, I didn't even know, will report
[02:01] <samosa> but what annoys me is cpu is constantly spiking at 20%. (I have dual core 3.00ghz, is this behavior normal?)
[02:01] <help`> hey need help trying to append using tee command not workin : cat moe.txt | cat info.txt | tee  > jeje.txt  thx =)
[02:01] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Well the old way to spoof check is to read everything backwards.
[02:01] <stovicek> help`: cat moe.txt | cat info.txt | tee -a jeje.txt
[02:02] <phoenixandthor> samosa, you looking for me?
[02:02] <samosa> phoenixandthor: yes! :p
[02:02] <help`> stovicek thx i try this it only append from file info.txt not with moe.txt thx
[02:03] <dgnorton> i have apache installed, only one website (the default), and I want to grant certain users ftp access to just that folder (/var/www).  How's that done usually?
[02:03] <Brekitz> has anyone had a problem with the GTick metronome?
[02:03] <nsadmin> Brekitz: have you?
[02:03] <rdw200169> dgnorton, well, ftp access is not provided by apache.  thats something else, like proftpd and such
[02:03] <Brekitz> yeah it won't work
[02:04] <nsadmin> why?
[02:04] <dgnorton> rdw200169, I have vsftp already installed
[02:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: aspell is working very nicely, but does not allow me to type in my own correction. But it's doing at least a reasonable job.
[02:04] <Brekitz> Couldn't start metronome. Please check if specified sound device and sample file are accessible.
[02:04] <ericdaniel> hola
[02:04] <help`> stovicek work thx =)
[02:04] <nsadmin> what's it called again
[02:04] <rdw200169> dgnorton, i think it would be better not to direct your ftp clients directly to /var/www which is supposed to have user/group as something like www-data instead of userX etc...
[02:05] <Brekitz> Gtick 0.4.2
[02:05] <dgnorton> rdw200169, anonymous disabled...using local accounts (forget the setting)
[02:05] <nsadmin> and what's the package name?
[02:05] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: I do not know what I have installed now. But kile is spellchecking ok here. I appear that open office do the same as kile so you can open the files in open office if you want that
[02:05] <rdw200169> dgnorton, yeah, it would be better to leave users where they belong, i.e. /home and then symlink read-only to var/www
[02:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: really, what version of kile? In fact I have 2.0
[02:05] <nsadmin> !info gtick
[02:05] <rdw200169> dgnorton, you don't want to compromise the security of a read-only webroot by implementing with ftp, make sense?
[02:06] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: is it ignoring comments and commands? But do you use gnome?
[02:06] <nsadmin> ahh, package name is gtick
[02:06] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: 2.0
[02:06] <rdw200169> dgnorton, hence, the symlinks or whatever
[02:06] <mdg> hi Devon_C !
[02:06] <dgnorton> rdw200169, ok...then I was on the right track.  I have a users locked to their home and a sym in their home folder to /var/www
[02:06] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: I use gnome. It does not ignore commands
[02:06] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: well I am on karmic, but on jaunty the same happened, it says it can't find the dictionary but I assume I lack some kde dependency
[02:06]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[02:06] <rdw200169> dgnorton, excellent, it also means you can move /home or /var/www without compromising standardized partition/hdd managements etc...
[02:06] <Brekitz> it's just call gtick in the synaptic package manager
[02:07] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: you using english?
[02:07] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yes
[02:07] <mdg> Devon_C: Get you ipod working?
[02:07] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Strange then
[02:07] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: but really, aspell in console is not so bad
[02:07] <Le-Chuck_ITA> not showable to any user to convert to ubuntu though
[02:08] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: "The spelling program could not be started. Please make sure you have set the correct spelling program and that it is properly configured and in your PATH."
[02:08] <dgnorton> rdw200169, the problem was that when i ftped in, i couldn't access the symlink in my folder
[02:08] <SideWinder>
[02:09] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: and the funny thing is that 1) it does not tell me which spelling program 2) it assumes I know where to set it, certainly not in kile's config
[02:09] <Aaron> Hi, I need some help with samaba
[02:09] <Aaron> it's not working.
[02:09] <rdw200169> dgnorton, you mean from /var/www or /home?
[02:09] <dgnorton> from /home
[02:09] <bucky> samaba ?
[02:09] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Honestly I do not like the new version of kile. The 1.x is much better
[02:09] <dgnorton> rdw200169, need to chown it so the user owns it i bet.
[02:09] <nsadmin> Brekitz So I just got the same message... here's what I want you to do
[02:09] <Aaron> I got samba installed but it can't find my home microsoft network and it's not workgroup.
[02:10] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: I know, and the new actually is 2.1, I am using intrepid's repository on karmic for that
[02:10] <Le-Chuck_ITA> for 2.0
[02:10] <rdw200169> dgnorton, you're going to have to further inspect the permissions/users/groups etc... in the various /home folders.  ftp is extremely picky about that sort of thing, for security reasons.  it would also be helpful to read the config file help page to see what kind of 'leniencies' you can implement to reduce strictness...
[02:10] <nsadmin> first, quit gtick, then run it from the shell
[02:10] <nsadmin> try to start it
[02:10] <ARMENIAN> how do I change the delay of how long it takes for a song to start playing after i put my cursor on it in nautilius?
[02:10] <nsadmin> look at the shell window
[02:10] <aperson> is there a way to middleclick close apps on the window list?
[02:11] <dgnorton> rdw200169, /var/www is   root:root ... leave it that way?
[02:11] <rdw200169> dgnorton, depends on how apache is configured.  ubuntu's default with apache2 is for the contents of /var/www to be www-data:www-data
[02:11] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Is there a big change from 2.0 and 2.1?
[02:11] <Le-Chuck_ITA> the number of crashes :P
[02:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> it is much higher in 2.1
[02:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> and the interface is a bit different
[02:12] <nsadmin> Brekitz you still there
[02:12] <mrjcarter> what setting in compiz do I need to configure to allow me to "switch between" desktops, but leave the menu bar and wallpaper
[02:12] <Flannel> dgnorton: It's safe to change the owner of /var/www to www-data:www-data
[02:12] <Brekitz> it starts up
[02:12] <dgnorton> rdw200169, odd...installed the latest server yesterday
[02:12] <mrjcarter> I just want the open applications to move, not the wallpaper and menu bar
[02:12] <Brekitz> doesn't say anything
[02:12] <nsadmin> Brekitz: ok, hit the start button
[02:13] <mohammed510> When I do ... ls -ld somedirectory .... The result shows that the it is fixed at 4096
[02:13] <mohammed510> Why??
[02:13] <rdw200169> dgnorton, its an initial installation thing
[02:13] <Brekitz> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[02:13] <Flannel> dgnorton: by default /var/www is owned by root:root, but the contents are www-data:www-data, you can safely change its owner to www-data:www-data
[02:13] <Aaron> anyone know how I can get samba to see my windows network ?
[02:13] <nsadmin> mohammed510: directories are that until they grow past a certain sixe
[02:13] <dgnorton> rdw200169, ahh
[02:13] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: KDE programs are good in general but the interface gets too fancy lately. :)
[02:14] <rdw200169> Flannel, i think i said that, hehe, but maybe we all missed it, i know i thought it ;)
[02:14] <ARMENIAN> how do i change the music preview delay in nautilus?
[02:14] <Flannel> rdw200169: you said the contents, yeah, he read it as /var/www plus the contents
[02:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: not as fancy as the spellchecker I am currently using anyway :)
[02:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: which by the way is the most productive spellchecker I ever used
[02:15] <dgnorton> rdw200169, hmm...says I'm not in the sudoers file.  Sounds...bad?
[02:15] <qe2eqe> Do I need xinerama to send windows across a network?
[02:15] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Any spellchecker that you can use is productive i guess.
[02:15] <justfil> why the music audio quality in linux is so bad...
[02:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Kjell: not if it keeps forgetting the words I add!
[02:16] <haole> hello there... my keyboard has been misconfigured by xorg under ubuntu... all my FX keys (F1, F2...) won't work, but they do appear when i run "xev"... not as F1, lets say, but as some strange code in numbers... what can i do to map them?
[02:16] <ARMENIAN> haole: u can use xbindkeys
[02:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> and done! bye kjeli and all, I'll have good sleep :)
[02:16] <rdw200169> dgnorton, hmm.. are you working on getting your users to log in correctly?
[02:17] <Kjell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Sleep well
[02:17] <haole> ARMENIAN: but would that make it permanent?
[02:17] <Halitech> justfil, mine sounds pretty good to me
[02:17] <justfil> Halitech, well i guess <<default>> doesnt work for me
[02:17] <nellmathew> justfil, it might depend on your drivers, if so : check ubuntuforums for ways to tweak it, and it might be your alsa or pulseaudio settings.. for most people stuff works great out of the box, but for some it requires some tweaking. i consider myself an audiophile and i have no sound issues.
[02:17] <ARMENIAN> haole: well what they would be used for is terminal commands
[02:18] <ARMENIAN> haole: pm me
[02:18] <myg35spot> anyone here know how to use kdiff3?
[02:18] <Tenkawa> !ff3.5
[02:18] <Tenkawa> yay
[02:18] <Kjell> Anyone knows another sokoban game rather than gsokoban?
[02:18] <rdw200169> dgnorton, sudoers is related to sudo and fake sudo root access and such.  i think the default configuration is for users in the admin group to have sudo access
[02:18] <dgnorton> rdw200169, was tinkering before I got on IRC.  Added a webdev group and added myself to it.  Now I'm getting these "dgnorton is not in the sudoers file..." messages.
[02:18] <help`> hey sorry need to ask this silly question : cat help.txt info.txt > file 2<&1 ( this mean let info.txt apped help.txt info file) thx
[02:19] <rdw200169> dgnorton, if dgnorton is not in the admin group, he doesn't have sudo access
[02:20] <the1corrupted> Hello, I'm having issued with my wireless connection.  Every so often, it will unexpectedly cut out without telling me.  Or it will be extremely slow at times.
[02:21] <Aaron> Does anyone have youtube video problems? Or any video media problems on the web.
[02:21]  * md22_  using xchat in a ubuntu 9 vm .yah hoo  no more dual boot
[02:21] <nellmathew> what the heck?.. why is firefox 3.5 called "shiretoko" lol
[02:21] <Brekitz> nsadmin, "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"  in case you missed it
[02:21] <dgnorton> rdw200169, looks like i successfully removed myself from the admin group...LOL...what an idiot!
[02:21] <rdw200169> nellmathew, that was the codename mozilla gave to it before it became stable.  please, ubuntu questions only, please!
[02:22] <Aaron> I at random times will have the video jerking around. Sometimes the video dosen't even show. At other times the footage stretches or shrinks at times.
[02:22] <Aaron> I get those. I don't know how to fix it. Does anyone know how?
[02:23] <jhkhgk> slm
[02:23] <Aaron> Is firefox 3.5 any good?
[02:23] <jhkhgk> hi
[02:23] <jhkhgk> hello
[02:23] <jhkhgk> from where
[02:23] <jhkhgk> this chat
[02:23] <bazhang> jhkhgk, this is Ubuntu support. chat elsewhere
[02:24] <jhkhgk> country ??
[02:24] <Aaron> IE 8 has security flaws. Just found out 1 hour ago.
[02:24] <dgnorton> rdw200169, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo  ... looks fixable at least
[02:24] <bazhang> jhkhgk, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[02:24] <Halitech> Aaron, and this is news? :O
[02:24] <Aaron> nope..
[02:24] <Brekitz> Debian Bug report logs - #222355
[02:25] <Aaron> but the flaw allows hackers to take control of your PC... hmmm nice.. they make windows to another dimension of hacking. lol
[02:27] <ARMENIAN> how do i change the music preview delay in nautilus?
[02:28] <ruidurao> ola
[02:28] <ruidurao> hi
[02:28] <ruidurao> alquem me pode ajudar com o qemu loader?
[02:29] <rdw200169> !es | ruidurao
[02:29] <ruidurao> does anyone can help me with qemu loader?
[02:30] <mankash> getting error "interface doesn't accept private ioctl, compression (8BE0) Invalid argument" when I restart the network
[02:31] <usr13> is this a wireless NIC?
[02:31] <ARMENIAN> how do i change the music preview delay in nautilus?
[02:31] <usr13> mankash: is this a wireless NIC?
[02:31] <mankash> yeah
[02:31] <aperson> when I log in from a reboot, my screen stays black with a pointer, but if I restart x and log in, everything is fine
[02:32] <aperson> anyone have an idea as to what could be causing this?
[02:32] <usr13> mankash: Check the settings
[02:32] <mankash> what is the relation between mac80211, wpa_supplicant, hostapd
[02:34] <dashix> hey can anyone here help me get mu ubuntu to use an older linux kernel?
[02:34] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering whats the difference between ufw and firestarter and if any which is better to use?
[02:34] <bazhang> dashix, why would you need that; how much older are we talking
[02:34] <Aaron> dashix why?
[02:34] <dashix> older than 2.6.27 and to use flashrom properly
[02:35] <rdw200169> L3dPlatedLinux, ufw and firestarter, essentially, perform the same task
[02:35] <rdw200169> L3dPlatedLinux, they both work with iptables, the commandline driven interface to the firewall code integrated into the Linux Kernel
[02:35] <mooperd> hi, my use password doesnt work
[02:35] <mooperd> has anyone head of passwords changing spontaniously?
[02:36] <usr13> mooperd: Nope
[02:36] <mooperd> or is there a time I have to wait if I enter a password wrong more than 3 times?
[02:36] <rdw200169> L3dPlatedLinux, regardless, from my personal experience, I prefer firestarter, because its really easy, and the firewall configuration it uses is excellent for most client related matters (not suitable for complex networking environments etc...)
[02:36] <usr13> mooperd: no
[02:36] <usr13> mooperd: Operator error
[02:37] <ARMENIAN> how do i change the music preview delay in nautilus?
[02:38] <kerhano> can any1 tell me why i cannot log in to abjects.irc.net which for sum reason i can no longer get into
[02:38] <L3dPlatedLinux> i think what i like about the fs gui is the log easier to see when there is a issue
[02:38] <kerhano> i cant use any server that isnt in my list?
[02:38] <kerhano> i can only use xchats server list and cant add them anymore
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> mooperd:  ive heard of the caps-lock being on at very bad times.. :)
[02:39] <kerhano> any ideas
[02:39] <salvadorfl> hello i have a cuestion
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> kerhano:  you could always go hard core and edit the xchat configs by hand.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> kerhano:  ive not used xchat in ages.. I got where i like weechat
[02:39] <kerhano> see but i was able to log in earlier
[02:40] <salvadorfl> i just install pykaraoke but i am not available to play midi files or kar does anybody knows how to fix it?
[02:40] <false> kerhano: perhaps, that single irc server is down, then?
[02:40] <kerhano> now it wont accept any server i try to log into,accept the ones already pre in the list
[02:40] <dashix> so no idea.. hmm.. here is hopin i can take an ubuntu distro and change the kernel and some settings :/
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> dashix:  this is linux.. you proberly could.. :) if you had teh skills
[02:41] <dashix> i probably lack the skills but we shall see :)
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> dashix:  install an older ubuntu :)
[02:41] <dashix> i have magic iso so i am going to make it try and install that way first :)
[02:41] <dashix> dr_willis: i cant find any
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> dashix:  what does magic iso have to do with anything?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> dashix:   the old iso's should be on some archive servers somewhere.
[02:42] <salvadorfl> some body told me my sound card does not support midis
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> dashix:  first hit for old ubutnu relesaes --> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> salvadorfl:  theres software midi tools these days. that play  the midis normally
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> !midi
[02:43] <dashix> dr_willis: just got it, do you happen to know what kernel those are running?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> dashix:  not a clue.
[02:43] <doseryder> !canonical
[02:43] <mercutio22> this damned system locked up again
[02:43] <mercutio22> shoot
[02:44] <mercutio22> it gets me sick
[02:44] <dashix> dr_willis: i can always look in the iso and see what they have in there i guess :)
[02:44] <salvadorfl> for example?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> salvadorfl:  disrtowatch or some othe rsites may compare them all.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> salvadorfl:  example of what? I imagine most sound cards dont have the same 'midi' hardware that used to exist in cards.
[02:44] <salvadorfl> ok
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> they do it in software
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo  <<- Software Synthsis :)
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> there may be other stand alone midi players also.
[02:46] <doseryder> Are the ubuntu repos (There are several, *I think) update to date with the current (or at least have recent versions) nvidia geforce drivers?
[02:46] <justin_> hi
[02:47] <cobra-the-joker> hey there guys ....i heard about ubuntu studio just right now ....what it uses as a desktop enviroment ?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> cobra-the-joker:  check their homepage?
[02:48] <cobra-the-joker> Dr_Willis , i checked actually i couldnt know what it is actually :D
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> i would bet gnome or kde.. most likely gnome
[02:49] <cobra-the-joker> i liked the idea much ...really
[02:49] <dashix> dr_willis: i will test it first but it seems ubuntu 8.04.2 has a far enough back kernel version
[02:49] <jefinc> ARMENIAN: as far as I can figure you cannot change the delay for the mp3 preview, but it could be in an update, there are a few posts about it on brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <doseryder> !envy
[02:50] <dashix> dr_willis: just in case someone else comes by you may remember this ;)
[02:50] <dgnorton> rdw200169, fixed...i'm back in the admin group.  Accidentally using "sudo usermod -G" instead of "sudo usermod -Ga" can cause a bit of trouble.
[02:50] <dgnorton> :)
[02:50] <doseryder> !Binary Driver | doseryder
[02:50] <rdw200169> dgnorton, yes, it can!
[02:50] <doseryder> !BinaryDriver | doseryder
[02:50] <scott_ino2> lol that's great
[02:50] <scott_ino2> silly bots
[02:51] <sfmadmax> j #tlhelp
[02:51] <Orbixx> Can anybody explain why when I'm connecting to a WPA/WPA2 wireless network why my connection hangs during negotiation?
[02:51] <jefinc> ARMENIAN: if you can find a way to edit the command that preview sends from mpg321 "file name" to mpg321 --aggressive "file name" it may make it load a little faster, not sure though as that command just changes the priority, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[02:51] <lufis> Anyone have any clue what the ubuntu restricted hardware manager is called?
[02:51] <dashix> orbixx: your device may not support the protocol have you checked for that?
[02:51] <scott_ino2> hardware drivers?
[02:51] <scott_ino2> lufis, or do you mean the package
[02:52] <Orbixx> dashix: It seems to work on other WPA/WPA2 networks.
[02:52] <lufis> The name of the app
[02:52] <lufis> the path
[02:52] <tuntis> I'm using jaunty on a Asus Eee 1000HE - the wireless isn't working: the connection (WPA) shows up but actually refuses to connect. How can I fix this?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> lufis:  jockey-gtk (i think)
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !find jockey
[02:52] <Orbixx> tuntis: Sounds like you might have the same issue as me.
[02:52] <dashix> orbixx: ahh i recommend then a 30/30/30 reset of the router and to reset your settings
[02:52] <lufis> Dr_Willis: Never would have guessed that one. ;) thanks
[02:52] <Orbixx> tuntis: Does it seem to just hang then when connecting?
[02:52] <tuntis> Orbixx: yes
[02:52] <dashix> orbixx: routers can be cantankerous sometimes
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> lufis:  drag icon to the panel, right click on it.. properties.. :)
[02:53] <Orbixx> dashix: I have custom firmware on this router and it's tweaked to perfection, every single other client works flawlessly.
[02:53] <scott_ino2> Orbixx, ahhh i was just going to ask if you're using stock firmware
[02:53] <dashix> orbixx: i see, is it an intel wireless adapter?
[02:53] <knight__> oh wow im in an irc window
[02:53] <knight__> haha
[02:53] <knight__> sorry just installed xchat
[02:53] <knight__> cyas
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> knight__:  A+ :)
[02:54] <knight__> exit
[02:54] <rski> B-
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Short Attention span!
[02:54] <Orbixx> dashix: I believe it's ralink.
[02:54] <Orbixx> The device itself is an Asus eee 901.
[02:55] <dashix> orbixx: hmm.. im assuming you have tried deleting the profile etc? how close are you to the router?
[02:55] <dashix> orbixx: you can actually be too close (3ft) in my experience and my laptop wont connect to my dd-wrt modded router
[02:55] <poseidon> anyone know how I can install the acmkdir utility?
[02:55] <jeffschuler> i just inherited a production server running gutsy.  I understand it's no longer supported... is there somewhere I can still get updates to packages I currently have installed?
[02:56] <Orbixx> dashix: Hmm, that's an idea.
[02:56] <chris_> How do I install Steam with Ubuntu?
[02:56] <soreau> jeffschuler: You can attempt a dist-upgrade to Hardy LTS
[02:56] <rski> chris_: with wine
[02:56] <Orbixx> jeffschuler: aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:57] <jeffschuler> soreau: is that the only way?  i am hesitant to risk issues upgrading to hardy, as it's a live server
[02:57] <chris_> yes i know that but from there what do i do
[02:57] <Kalmi__> !upgrade
[02:58] <dashix> orbixx: a friend of mine had ubuntu installed on his laptop, it was loading two drivers, the ndiswrapper and the factory one
[02:58] <jeffschuler> I understand upgrade to hardy is the prescribed thing to do, and will do so, soon.. I'm looking for security updates in the meantime.  is that doable?
[02:58] <dashix> orbixx: you may also want to check that
[02:58] <akSeya> any idea why synclient changes are not working on the fly? here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m5a9c9b68
[02:58] <bazhang> jeffschuler, eol means no more security updates for it
[02:58] <soreau> jeffschuler: My recommendation would be to try a dist-upgrade and if it breaks, be prepared to install fresh and clean. Or, leave it the way it is until there's a problem and try step 1
[02:59] <jay2> hi
[02:59] <soreau> jeffschuler: If it's working, there's no real reason to upgrade
[03:00] <jeffschuler> soreau: I'm just concerned about security updates for currently installed software.
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> akSeya:  i was thinking there was a X config that had to be enabmed for that to work  somthing with X memory. (schm>?)
[03:00] <jay2> grrr I need a new hard drive no one download from me
[03:00] <soreau> jeffschuler: Well, good luck
[03:00] <jeffschuler> soreau and bazhang: thanks for your help.
[03:00] <akSeya> Dr_Willis, SHMConfig
[03:01] <akSeya> ?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> akSeya:  yea - ive not had to mess with it in ages --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[03:01] <chris_> after i install wine, how do i get steam to work
[03:01] <Rob235> my boyz in da houuuuuuuuse
[03:01] <Rob235> whats up guys
[03:01] <akSeya> Dr_Willis, it is enabled :(
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> chris_:  wine steaminstaller.exe    and let it install
[03:01] <jay2> anyone know how to remove conflicker from a linux point of view to windows os with out saying yeah go and get linux lol
[03:01] <zelrikriando> hello
[03:01] <zelrikriando> how do I connect to my android phone from ubuntu?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> akSeya:  theres been som eothers with issues with that thing in here lately.  perhaps check the forums.
[03:01] <scott_ino2> jay2, what do you mean exactly
[03:01] <zelrikriando> It doesnt seem to work
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> zelrikriando:  most phones have a usb/data mode and usb 'hard drive' mode. perhaps check the docs?
[03:02] <bazhang> jay2, are you using Ubuntu?
[03:02] <jay2> sometimes I find a linux view to fixing a windows problem sometimes soves these kinds of issues
[03:02] <zelrikriando> Dr_Willis: hu
[03:02] <jay2> sorry computer again just gave me grive
[03:02] <bazhang> jay2, ##windows
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> zelrikriando:  my cell phones have a menu item.. one to be a 'data' device over the usb.. other to be a 'hard drive' over usb.
[03:03] <jay2> I have conflickter on my machine which has infected the hard drive
[03:03] <shuffle_> Hey, i just installed ubuntu on my dell inspiron 600m laptop alongside windows xp home.  I now cannot get the wireless card or ethernet card to work or connect to anything.  I installed both ndiswrapper and ndisgtk, and with ndisgtk I installed as many drivers as i could find but with no luck, what is going on? :(
[03:03] <scott_ino2> jay2, why not just  run a utility that gets rid of conficker
[03:03] <bazhang> jay2, that is offtopic here please take to ##windows
[03:03] <jay2> tryed it and hids
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> run the vaious linux anti-virus apps and see if they can rwemove it.
[03:03] <jay2> nah not really hoping for a linux bit but okay
[03:03] <jay2> :))
[03:03] <akSeya> Dr_Willis, hum.. gonna try that link you said..
[03:03] <dcushman> Is this the right channel for HDD formatting question?
[03:04] <bazhang> he is not using Ubuntu
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> akSeya:  good luck.
[03:04] <akSeya> need rebooting.. be back soon ;)
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Live cd's + av software = part of my PC toolbox.
[03:04] <chris_> i dont have the .exe i have .msi
[03:04] <chris_> where should i put the .msi installer for steam?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> chris_:  so?  wine can run msi's also. i forget how.. google will tell you.
[03:04] <dewdude> dcushman, what kind of disk are you trying to format?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | chris_
[03:04] <zelrikriando> Dr_Willis: oh I got it
[03:05] <bittin> somone here knows anything about wvdail?
[03:05] <Rob235> umm where should i extract the freedb cddb offline database?
[03:05] <Rob235> does it matter?
[03:05] <Kalmi__> bittin, couldn't you just use NetworkManager?
[03:05] <dcushman> (9.04 JJ) I have a new USB Drive that I've tried formatting with Ext3 in GParted, no problems. But cannot figure out how to make it writeable.
[03:05] <bittin> somone knows how to get it to work with mobile broadbands
[03:05] <bittin> Kalmi__: nah i dont like NM :(
[03:05] <shuffle_> any help? :/
[03:06] <dewdude> well, you formatted it in gparted...i've got no clue how to mae it writable
[03:06] <dewdude> i never had that problem
[03:06] <Kalmi__> dcushman, have you mounted it?
[03:06] <dcushman> Would be happy to a pointer to a faq if available.
[03:06] <dcushman> It shows as mounted in "places"
[03:06] <buckwild> hello, im new to ubuntu.  all of a sudden my sound no longer works.  Plz help
[03:06] <dewdude> that would be a good question i hoped i'd never have to ask
[03:06] <dewdude> did you try cycling the device?
[03:06] <BillyG> moro
[03:06] <dcushman> yes
[03:06] <mdcephas> I have no idea what i am doing I am just trying to join this chat for support on Jaunty Jackalope issue with Delta audiophile 2490 soundcard issue
[03:07] <Kalmi__> mdcephas, :)
[03:07] <scott_ino2> dcushman, also make sure you have admin privileges on the devince
[03:07] <mdcephas> Does somebody know how to configure the card
[03:07] <mdcephas> I do
[03:07] <soreau> shuffle_: What does 'lspci' report your card as?
[03:07] <BillyG> pls i have a problem my comp keeps giving me BSOD
[03:07] <BillyG> i use windows vista
[03:07] <mdcephas> I am a newbie, pls
[03:07] <BillyG> i dont know whats wrong
[03:07] <dcushman> ok, that might be the issue, how would I go about gaining admin to a device?
[03:07] <bazhang> BillyG, wrong channel
[03:07] <shuffle_> lspci in terminal?
[03:07] <BillyG> why wrong??
[03:08] <BillyG> can you help?
[03:08] <BillyG> plz vista
[03:08] <bazhang> BillyG, this is Ubuntu support
[03:08] <soreau> buckwild: Try running 'alsamixer' from your terminal and checking the settings
[03:08] <BillyG> so plz support me
[03:08] <mdcephas> ok
[03:08] <persia> I seem to have a (working) disk with a corrupt partition table, and I don't seem to be able to write a new parition table.  Does anyone know how I might force a mount of a partition?
[03:08] <mdcephas> alsamixer from terminal
[03:08] <bazhang> BillyG, ##windows for vista help
[03:08] <BillyG> ok thx!!!
[03:08] <scott_ino2> was that guy serious??
[03:08] <mdcephas> thanks I will try that
[03:08] <buckwild> how do i know that everything is ok?
[03:08] <dcushman> you can never tell...
[03:08] <bazhang> seems so
[03:09] <Kalmi__> he is not in ##windows yet...
[03:09] <mdcephas> The thing is that when I go to sound configuration and select my sound card and test it, i hear a sound output from the HDMI
[03:09] <kennyyu> hi there, i've set up a bind9 server and also my zone file, zone name being 'home.myzone.' .... but then when i ping a client it still replies "64 bytes from myclient.local (<IP_ADDRESS>)"  but nslookup just works fine.
[03:09] <buckwild> i have an onboard soundcard and a soundblaster.
[03:09] <mdcephas> but when I try to play a file from any application, silence
[03:09] <soreau> ! audio | buckwild
[03:10] <Guiadzf> can anyone convert a package for me?
[03:10] <help`> kennyyu how much byte u want it to reply ?
[03:10] <soreau> Guiadzf: Convert?
[03:10] <help`> kennyyu 32>
[03:10] <kennyyu> help`: not about the bytes :)
[03:10] <scott_ino2> Guiadzf, from what to what
[03:10] <persia> kennyyu, That is the reveerse lookup.  You need nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn.in-addr.arpa to resolve to your desired name.
[03:10] <help`> kennyyu i don't think it's bind problem!
[03:10] <buckwild> when i initially set up ubuntu, i had to select the primary sound card. i forgot how to do that
[03:11] <Guiadzf> scott_ino2, mirage driver to ubuntu
[03:11] <soreau> buckwild: Follow the information ubottu gave you
[03:11] <Guiadzf> scott_ino2, mandriva to ubuntu
[03:11] <dgnorton> why would 'groups' not show all the same groups as 'groups "dgnorton" /etc/group'  ?
[03:11] <kennyyu> persia: i thought it was the problem with caching.. so where should it be fixed? in my zone file right?
[03:11] <scott_ino2> Guiadzf, there's gotta be something like alien that can do that
[03:11] <soreau> Guiadzf: Use alien
[03:11] <buckwild> ok thx
[03:12] <stimble> anyone know how i can find out what options the default ubuntu server kernel was compliled with?
[03:12] <Guiadzf> soreau, scott_ino2 Unpacking of 'sis.rpm' failed at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package/Rpm.pm line 155
[03:12] <persia> kennyyu, No.  In the xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa zone file: search google on "reverse DNS".
[03:13] <scott_ino2> Guiadzf, I've only used alien once for a epson .rpm file to .deb so i doubt i can be of any help. Might wanna try the alien devs mailing list perhaps?
[03:13] <kennyyu> persia: you really mean the 'rev.xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa' file, right?
[03:14] <aperson> is there an easy way to see what wireless driver I'm currently using?
[03:14] <persia> kennyyu, No, I mean the xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa zone.  How that maps to files depends entirely on how you set up your nameserver :)
[03:14] <kennyyu> persia: :)
[03:14] <kennyyu> thanks
[03:14] <shuffle_> soreau: What is the code that I should put?
[03:14] <jpastore> I suddenly lost the ability to connect to my WPA network at home. I can connect to an open network but it's the condo's pay internet access. I tried simple stuff like reconnecting, rebooting, removing the profile and trying again...I'm out of ideas...please help
[03:14] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys is it possible to search for multiple files with the gnome search tool like if you seperate the names somehow?
[03:15] <soreau> shuffle_: Type 'lspci' in your terminal without quotes and look for the string that is your wifi hardware. Then post the output here
[03:15] <kennyyu> btw, i update my zone file but then it seems i still cannot ping (from my client) some of the maachines with their names, sometimes. is it sth related to the cache?
[03:16] <new2linx> i just upgraded from hardy heron, to intrpid, then to jaunty. I have a Nvidia video card. The resolution is so small that I can't see the proper resolution to select it. What file is the resolution stored in now days? I know it's not in xorg.conf anymore. I need to enter it from ctrl-alt-F1, then sudo nano whatever file. Any help please.
[03:16] <persia> kennyyu, Possibly.  Clear your client cache after each server update to be sure.
[03:16] <soreau> new2linx: Try running 'nvidia-settings'
[03:16] <kennyyu> persia: undrerstood. many thanks for your answers :)
[03:17] <jpastore> I have an Intel 3945ABG Golan
[03:17] <Kjell> new2linx: it is in xorg.conf :)
[03:17] <new2linx> soreau,  I did use System, Preference, Hardware Drivers to install the correct nvidia driver for my card but I jsut can't change the res with nvidia-settings because the res is so small.
[03:17] <shuffle_> soreau: 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:18] <soreau> ! broadcom | shuffle_
[03:18] <new2linx> Kjell, it's not in xorg,cong anymore. At least the installer doesn't put anything about resolutiuon in there anymore. When I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it never asked me about the driver to use or the resolution.
[03:18] <K-Zodron||> guys, ati dropped support for my x200m, how good are the open source drivers? possible to revert to an old x server in 9.04 to use the 9.3 fglrx?
[03:19] <Kjell> new2linx: you can still manually override it with xorg.conf
[03:19] <edbian> K-Zodron||: The open source drivers are just as good if not better for my ati radeon 9550
[03:19] <scott_ino2> K-Zodron||, depending on your card the open source drivers are just fine and dandy
[03:19] <nsadmin> sista vista gets a blista
[03:19] <soreau> new2linx: In xorg.conf in the Device section, switch temporarily to "vesa" and restart X. Use nvidia-settings and revert back to "nvidia" maybe
[03:19] <K-Zodron||> last time I tried they barely let my play a 2D game at 5fps, possible that they suck for my specific card or I just did something really wrong?
[03:19] <new2linx> Kjell, could you paste a good xorg.conf for 1280x1024 at pastebin.com for me then?
[03:20] <new2linx> soreau, oh yeah. I didn't think of that. I'll try that. be right back.
[03:20] <K-Zodron||> also, should I install some experimental driver version for better performance?
[03:20] <dcushman> scott_ino2: Thanks, I looked up the admin on device to chown -R and that was what I was missing. Working fine now. Thanks!
[03:20] <edbian> K-Zodron||: Try them now and see how they work.  How long ago was this?
[03:20] <chris_> so i downloaded steam but when i try to install cs, it doesnt open or anything
[03:20] <scott_ino2> dcushman, np glad it worked
[03:20] <K-Zodron||> not too long, maybe a month
[03:20] <soreau> K-Zodron||: All's you have to do is remove all fglrx packages and reboot. You should then be using the open radeon driver
[03:21] <edbian> soreau: He's asking how well they work.
[03:21] <edbian> soreau: He knows how to use them.  Clearly from his last post ^
[03:21] <K-Zodron||> ok, thanks for the help
[03:21] <Shivam> why does a .tif file glitch Ubuntu?
[03:21] <n2diy> can I go down stairs, and log in here, from my test box? Or do I need to log out  up here first?
[03:21] <soreau> edbian: I'm not keeping up, about to crash soon
[03:21] <scott_ino2> Shivam, tiff files shouldn't, what are you doing with it
[03:22] <bucky> Shivam: what tif veiwer are you using
[03:22] <edbian> soreau: Your system in gonna crash?
[03:22] <soreau> edbian: Let's don't be silly
[03:22] <Kjell> !paste
[03:22] <Shivam> im not using any viewer i just downloaded one and put it on my desktop and my desktop started going crazy
[03:22] <n2diy> edbian: bail out, abandon ship
[03:22] <Shivam> i later put it in a folder and everytime i open the folder it goes crazy
[03:22] <ctmjr> K-Zodron||, you might have better luck with the open source drivers from git and install the drm for 3d
[03:22] <Shivam> starts opening/closing things
[03:23] <miyako> could anyone tell me what version of Gtk+ is in Hardy?
[03:23] <edbian> Shivam: Perhaps the file is corrupt?
[03:23] <K-Zodron||> ctmjr any howto? :p
[03:23] <Shivam> no idea, i never seen a .tif before until now
[03:23] <ctmjr> K-Zodron||, hold on will find it
[03:23] <scott_ino2> Shivam, .tif is a TIFF file stands for Tagged image file format it's a image format
[03:24] <edbian> Shivam: They're used usually for large pictures from a scanner.
[03:24] <Shivam> i see
[03:24] <Kjell> new2linx:
[03:24] <scott_ino2> edbian, or files that have embedded .icc color profiles
[03:24] <scott_ino2> :)
[03:24] <scunizi> Shivam: I've never had an issue with .tiff's.. either pics or multipage documents.
[03:24] <Shivam> its used for other purposes when it comes to PSPs ;)
[03:24] <bahaa2008> guy
[03:24] <Shivam> thanks for the responses
[03:24] <scott_ino2> np
[03:24] <bucky> scott_ino2: Shivam desktop does not know how to make a thumbnail of it and display it
[03:24] <bahaa2008> i'm installing mando   http://sourceforge.net/projects/mando/
[03:25] <Shivam> yeah thats why it was acting all weird
[03:25] <bahaa2008> when i do ./configure
[03:25] <scott_ino2> bucky, ahhhhh
[03:25] <scott_ino2> that makes sense
[03:25] <bittin> somone know how to get mobile broadband to work with wvdail?
[03:25] <Kjell> new2linx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/212344/ put this under section "device" you see in xorg. Remember that Driver "nvidia" is set as well
[03:25] <jpastore> ok I need some help. How do I go about completely reloading networking in ubuntu? I lost my wifi connection to my wpa network and when I use a wired connection it spins and times out. why would this suddenly happen?
[03:25] <bahaa2008> it stops with error configure: error: Check for OpenGL failed.
[03:25] <bahaa2008> anyone can help
[03:25] <help`> hello IDE HDD, primary from 1=>4 and extended from 5 and above? thx
[03:26] <scott_ino2> bucky, shouldnt it just display a dead file then?
[03:26] <scott_ino2> possible bug
[03:26] <qe2eqe> How do you run a command from cli but not 'in a terminal'
[03:26] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, can u help me
[03:26] <Kalmi_> jpastore, you disable it and reenable it?
[03:26] <ctmjr> K-Zodron||, this is for the radeonhd driver it is pretty much the same as the radeon driver just has hdmi support https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD
[03:26] <jpastore> Kalmi_: I rebooted but I'll try to disable and re-enable
[03:27] <K-Zodron||> ctmjr so I could install the radeonhd driver or what?
[03:27] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, what's up
[03:27] <Kalmi_> jpastore, oh... you reboted... I thought you were asking how to do this without rebooting...
[03:27] <bahaa2008> i'm installing mando   http://sourceforge.net/projects/mando/
[03:27] <bahaa2008> when i do ./configure
[03:27] <bahaa2008> it stops with error configure: error: Check for OpenGL failed.
[03:27] <new2linx> can anyone paste an xorg.conf for Jaunty please. Everytime I activate my nvidia driver, I can't see the darn area to pick the right resolution so I can't use nvidia-settings. If I enable vesa, then I try to go to nvidia-settings, it says that it appears that I am not using an nvidia driver so it won't start. Please help
[03:27] <Kalmi_> jpastore, have you tried restarting your router?
[03:27] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2,
[03:28] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, do you have your graphics drivers installed properly?
[03:28] <dtownhero> new2linx, did turn off gdm before installing the drivers?
[03:28] <bahaa2008> yes
[03:28] <bahaa2008> i'm installed the last nvidia driver
[03:28] <bahaa2008> and it works great
[03:28] <ctmjr> K-Zodron||, yes you can but make sure you follow the first part of the guide and remove any fglrx drivers
[03:28] <dtownhero> new2linx, I can paste my config but it sounds like you haven't installed the driver properly
[03:28] <jpastore> Kalmi_: no I tried restarting networking, rebooting, removing the profile....no I didn't try restarting the router because my other workstation and wireless laptop can access everything just fine but I'll give it a shot.
[03:28] <bucky> Shivam: maybe you have the dreaded ImageMagick TIFF File Integer Overflow Vulnerability http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/35111
[03:28] <K-Zodron||> ctmjr okay, thanks
[03:29] <scunizi> dtownhero: sounds like new2linx is just "activating and deactivating" the ubuntu supplied driver.. since he did use the activate word instead of the install word :)
[03:29] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, no idea then, maybe something needs to be changed in the make file, or there's somethin else going on
[03:29] <new2linx> Kjell, i'll give that a try. thanks
[03:30] <dtownhero> scunizi, indeed, either way you phrase it the driver is not installed. I see your point
[03:30] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, so who can help me here
[03:30] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, probably best to ask one of the mando people from their mailing list or something
[03:31] <dtownhero> new2linx, the ubuntu driver will not allow you to use the nvidia graphics settings
[03:31] <tim_____> where are vino-server logs?
[03:31] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, let me check the package
[03:31] <scunizi> tim_____: probably /var/log someplace
[03:31] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, no package available
[03:32] <scott_ino2> from sourceforge
[03:32] <K-Zodron||> ctmjr my x200m is r3xx based  I read, and radeonhd is r500 and higher, sounds like it wont work :p
[03:32] <tim_____> scunizi: nothing that i can see
[03:33] <tuntis> I'm using an Asus Eee 1000HE netbook on jaunty. The wlan doesn't work - it detects connections but can't actually connect to them. the adapter seems to be a ralink rt2860
[03:33] <jpastore> Kalmi_: weird, that worked =) thanks!
[03:33] <barcode> i need help :(
[03:33] <scunizi> tim_____: you could try "sudo updatedb" then "locate vino" .. you'll get lots of stuff but will be able to look at the list and find it.
[03:34] <barcode> everytime i start ubuntu right when i log in it freezes
[03:34] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, im getting a different error
[03:34] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, what's it
[03:34] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, have you tried a different version
[03:34] <bahaa2008> nope i tried the last one
[03:35] <bittin> here is the error: http://pastebin.se/198471
[03:35] <scott_> ok, i installed ubuntu for a friend and used a temp password on the login but we changed the password but the keyring want the old pasword. how do i change the old password for the keyring? 9.04 here
[03:36] <ctmjr> K-Zodron||, go here find your card and what you can get out of the open source radeon and radeonhd driivers http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[03:36] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, checking wether C++ compiler works... configure: error: Failed to compile and link C++ pro
[03:36] <teyux> como hago para cotar amsn en xubuntoooo pls hellnec
[03:36] <alazyworkaholic> Problem editing a file: I have a .odt ffile on a netbook. I connected to this netbook through connect to server from a laptop. I later suspended the laptop, then turned it on, closed openoffice, & restarted. Now when I try to edit the file using the netbook I'm told that I have to open it read-only or open a copy because it's "locked for editing". What do I do?
[03:36] <scott_ino2> even though i believe i have all the build-essentials installed
[03:36] <tim_____> scunizi: settings, docs, the program itself , but no logs
[03:37] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, this will solve this issue    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:37] <rankinr> alazyworkaholic: try opening it read-only, then re-saving it
[03:37] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, i just said i thought i had all prerequisits installed
[03:37] <rankinr> always works for me
[03:38] <scott_ino2> let me check though
[03:38] <K-Zodron||> ctmjr well it seems like it should work with the default dizzle, but when I tried ubuntu ~1 month ago the 3d performance was horrible :/
[03:38] <scunizi> tim_____: sure it's vino and not vinagre?
[03:38] <MTecknology> How can I resize LVM partitions?
[03:38] <tim_____> scunizi: vino as in remote desktop
[03:39] <alazyworkaholic> ranknr: I know, but how could I avoid having to do that every time I open files remotely then locally?
[03:39] <rankinr> no idea, maybe someone else can help
[03:39] <alazyworkaholic> rankinr: thanks anyway
[03:40] <scunizi> tim_____: vinagre also does that and I think they are both built in.. both off Applications>internet but once is Terminal server client and the other is Remote Desktop..
[03:40] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, guess i didnt
[03:40] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, Check for XTestFakeMotionEvent in -lXtst failed
[03:40] <JPSman> Which package will install gtk.h into my /user/include directory?
[03:40] <help`> hello IDE HDD, primary from 1=>4 and extended from 5 and above? thx
[03:40] <MK13> is there a reason my broadcom wireless connection shows as eth1 instead of wlan0?
[03:40] <scunizi> help`: that is not a question.. could you be more clear?
[03:41] <MK13> help`,only 3 primaries
[03:41] <scott_ino2> MK13, device aliases
[03:41] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, this wil solve that    86  sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev
[03:41] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2, this wil solve that    sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev
[03:41] <tuntis> I'm using an Asus Eee 1000HE netbook on jaunty. The wlan doesn't work - it detects connections but can't actually connect to them. the adapter seems to be a ralink rt2860.
[03:41] <help`> MK13 thx same to SCSI right ?
[03:41] <tim_____> scunizi: vinagre is a client vino is a server I'm trying to see server logs, so I know who use my machine and when
[03:41] <MK13> scott_ino2, is there a way to change it, or should i just leave it be?
[03:42] <rankinr> alazyworkaholic: check out this topic http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=84858
[03:42] <rankinr> it's a recent discussion. Apparrently, in 8.10 this is not a problem. So maybe revert to intrepid.
[03:42] <MK13> help`, i am pretty sure, not 100 percent tho
[03:43] <ctmjr> K-Zodron||, ok try this one it has the drm and mesa stuff from git http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon install these first before anything else sudo apt-get install build-essential git-core configure-debian automake autoconf xorg-dev libtool
[03:43] <scott_ino2> MK13, I believe so, but i honestly don't remember unless i look it up from an old Fedora post i had
[03:43] <help`> MK13 have u take LPI exam? well i'm studying and need to know about LILO if it come in exam since it's old boot loader!
[03:43] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, it's now complaining about boost
[03:44] <scott_ino2> bahaa2008, is there a list of mando's required build packages so i can just get them all
[03:44] <Brinson> Hey, is it just me or can you no longer do a command line install from the alternate cd?
[03:44] <scott_ino2> so i can test it for you
[03:44] <MK13> help`,nope only in programming 2 at the moment :D
[03:44] <headrx> so, in both firefox and epiphany browsers , i can goto google, but  if i search for something and then click on it, the window closes .. also does it if i try and open options. any ideas?
[03:44] <bahaa2008> scott_ino2,    sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
[03:45] <MK13> scott_ino2, just needed to know if it could be done, it doesnt bother me and i've gotten used to it now
[03:45] <help`> MK13 oh nice =)
[03:45] <dgnorton> in /home/dgnorton I did "ln -sd /var/www" and i can "cd /home/dgnorton/www" and see the contents of /var/www.  If I ftp to the machine and log in as dgnorton (chrooted to /home/dgnorton) I can not cd to the www sym link.  Why?