[22:13] <GraphicH> zeeble: nifty, what iso you using?
[22:13] <zeeble> GraphicH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:13] <Datz> hi, I have a laptop with 10.10 installed.  there is a video out VGA connection in the back which I connect to a monitor. I want to be able to close the lid, and use the monitor, but in power options, there is only options to suspend.. bland screen etc.  How can I get around this?
[22:13] <zeeble> from there. the 15.6mb ubuntu 10.10 64 bit iso
[22:14] <Datz> blank*
[22:14] <Femme> which the command to release all ports in linux
[22:14] <tucemiux> nit-wit,  yeah, this time it worked, let me reboot and see what happens
[22:14] <Femme> say ?
[22:14] <zeeble> release all ports?
[22:14] <Femme> yes
[22:14] <GraphicH> botcity: what version do you have?
[22:14] <nit-wit> tucemiux, cool
[22:14] <zeeble> that doesnt make sense
[22:14] <erUSUL> Femme: clarify what you mean
[22:14] <zeeble> elderdryas: reset your password yet?
[22:14] <Pudabudigada> Hi, when I run sudo apt-get update I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551629/
[22:14] <elderdryas> yup
[22:15] <zeeble> elderdryas: heh
[22:15] <elderdryas> not heh...damn fool am I
[22:15] <GraphicH> Pudabudigada: try sudo apt-get update
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> Pudabudigada, close all Synaptic / Update / U.S.C windows first
[22:15] <Femme> erUSUL:
[22:15] <Femme> I would like to know the command to release all ports in linux
[22:15] <Pudabudigada> That doesn't work
[22:16] <{dante_de}> y want to be a hacker
[22:16] <botcity> GraphicH: net-book unity think its 11.04
[22:16] <psycho_oreos> Pudabudigada, another process is using it or the lock file hasn't been removed from previous program and that could be because it crashed
[22:16] <{dante_de}> y want to be a hacker
[22:16] <GraphicH> Pudabudigada: oops sorry was being silly
[22:16] <bencahill> Femme: what do you mean by "release"?
[22:16] <erUSUL> Femme: the problem is i do nor know what "release all ports" is. what are you trying to do ?
[22:16] <Pudabudigada> nvm GraphicH
[22:16] <GraphicH> dante_de are you german Im guessing?
[22:16] <goltoof> {dante_de}:  not ubuntu related.. try #nmap
[22:16] <p_res> Femme: You mean disable the firewall so all ports are open?
[22:16] <psycho_oreos> !ot| {dante_de}
[22:16] <bencahill> !ot | {dante_de}
[22:16] <{dante_de}> yes
[22:16] <bencahill> psycho_oreos: beat me to it :)
[22:16] <almoxarife> battery discharge icon status constantly indicates (estimating....) has a bug report been brought up about it?
[22:16] <psycho_oreos> bencahill, it happens :)
[22:16] <GraphicH> dante_de: its not 'y' its 'I'
[22:17] <Pudabudigada> {dante_de}, If you want to be a hacker, you'll need about 20 years
[22:17] <GraphicH> dante_de: haha yes this is true
[22:17] <{dante_de}> y have 26 years
[22:17] <{dante_de}> 20 years???
[22:17] <Femme> mine is dedicated to the connection ports for irc blocked, they are 6667 and 7000
[22:17] <{dante_de}> 20+26=46
[22:17] <bencahill> Pudabudigada: oh man, I need another ~12 years!
[22:18] <{dante_de}> :))
[22:18] <Femme> p_res; yes
[22:18] <prakriti> is there any way to get drop shadows on text in gnome-terminal?
[22:18] <SteveG> {dante_de}: build your own linux from scratch... thatll get you a long ways toward being a 'hacker'
[22:18] <prakriti> it woudl be great for transparency
[22:18] <goltoof> {dante_de}:  as many have stated, you're off topic here.  but if you want to hack, you'll need to learn all the basics of linux system administration, navigatin, users/groups, networking etc, before you even consider programming, before you even consider hacking
[22:18] <{dante_de}> :)
[22:18] <{dante_de}> yes is true this
[22:19] <Femme> mine is dedicated to the connection ports for irc blocked, they are 6667 and 7000 erUSUL
[22:19] <bencahill> goltoof: "navigatin" :D
[22:19] <{dante_de}> but y not just beginer in that
[22:19] <p_res> Femme: Post back for command sudo ufw status
[22:19] <awesome_guest> hey doods has anyone successfully configured intel speedstep to work?
[22:19] <goltoof> !ot | {dante_de}
[22:19] <Pudabudigada> Start like Linus, assembly code on a spectrum (or something like that)
[22:19] <{dante_de}> :(
[22:19] <bencahill> {dante_de}: this is the ubuntu support channel, please do not post if you do not have a question/answer relating to that
[22:19] <zeeble> doesnt speedstep work out of the box?
[22:19] <awesome_guest> apparently not
[22:19] <Femme> p_res: not to understand anything dear
[22:20] <zeeble> yikes
[22:20] <zeeble> i am installing in a virtual machine on a laptop :)
[22:20] <grifo74> hello i have a question i add a new user and this user is not a admin, i have a problem alwais a start this user they ask for the pass to acsses to wireless network
[22:20] <awesome_guest> like.. I'm on a laptop, and this is pretty bad
[22:20] <prakriti> http://mg.pov.lt/blog/gnome-terminal-text-effects.html   <--- like that
[22:20] <zeeble> and was hoping i could use speedstep
[22:20] <perry__> i need help uninstalling 10.4. i have windows 7 and i used wubi to install it. then i am going to install 10.10
[22:20] <zeeble> i can understand, awesome_guest
[22:20] <goltoof> {dante_de}:  you also need to learn how to follow the rules of irssi channels.. you don't want to upset any of the hackers here ;)
[22:20] <p_res> Femme: Type in terminal without quotes "sudo ufw status"
[22:20] <awesome_guest> it is possible, I THINK
[22:20] <{dante_de}> upset hackers??:))
[22:21] <{dante_de}> hackers on mirc
[22:21] <GraphicH> dante_de: I would say coming to *this* channel and saying "y want to be a hacker" is not the best way impress your experience
[22:21] <awesome_guest> how do you use /etc/modules to load a module?
[22:21] <psycho_oreos> awesome_guest, tried using cpufreq? like make it use cpufreq_performance instead of cpufreq_ondemand?
[22:21] <{dante_de}> yes just for fun
[22:21] <bencahill> awesome_guest: modprobe?
[22:21] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: just add the module name to the file in its own line
[22:21] <psycho_oreos> modprobe.d/
[22:21] <zeeble> not sure how to do that in gnome-terminal, prakriti .. but it is the default behaviour in some other terminals like term
[22:22] <bencahill> awesome_guest: man modprobe
[22:22] <Femme> p_res:
[22:22] <prakriti> zeeble, do you have any reccomendations?  is term good?
[22:22] <Femme> [root@unica ~]# sudo ufw status
[22:22] <Femme> sudo: ufw: command not found
[22:22] <awesome_guest> I see
[22:22] <awesome_guest> it would be really freaking helpful if they you know
[22:22] <awesome_guest> configured stuff for laptops lol
[22:22] <psycho_oreos> Femme, sudo /etc/init.d/ufw status
[22:22] <bastidrazor> grifo74: possibly with the user that is in the admin account right click on nm-applet > edit connections > select the profile and then allow all users save then try again for the non-admin user
[22:22] <p_res> Femme: That's odd. "sudo apt-get install ufw"
[22:22] <{dante_de}> i want to make a comunity on my city
[22:22] <{dante_de}> ubuntu
[22:23] <GraphicH> dante_de start a Linux User Group then
[22:23] <zeeble> prakriti: depends. i like eterm, and xterm. and usually, green on black background for easy view
[22:23] <marvinin> anybody now the ubuntu comunity in guatemala
[22:23] <bencahill> Femme: are you running ubuntu?
[22:23] <GraphicH> dante_de or find your local one, you live in germany for goodness sakes
[22:23] <psycho_oreos> awesome_guest, there's like at least 500 different laptops out there, you're not hoping ubuntu to support each and every single one of them are you?
[22:23] <Pudabudigada> {dante_de},  Here: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
[22:23] <marvinin> i need help please
[22:23] <{dante_de}> :))
[22:23] <zeeble> it is not a case of ubuntu supporting it. it needs a kernel patch for the intel cpu type
[22:24] <{dante_de}> nice article
[22:24] <bencahill> {dante_de}: still !ot, please stop
[22:24] <perry__> i need help uninstalling ubuntu 10.4. i want to install 10.10 begause when i upgraded i got a kernel error
[22:24] <psycho_oreos> marvinin, what's the cctld for guatemala?
[22:24] <Femme> psycho_oreos:
[22:24] <Femme> [root@unica ~]# uname -a
[22:24] <Femme> Linux unica.unicahost.com 2.6.18-164.el5 #1 SMP Thu Sep 3 03:33:56 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[22:24] <awesome_guest> I suppose you're right.. but the end result is that battery life is horrible on ubuntu
[22:24] <zeeble> perry__: you dont need to "uninstall". when youa re reinstalling, you can delete the earlier install
[22:25] <grifo74> thanks i go log out and try
[22:25] <KM0201> Femme: whats your question?.. thats 32bit if you're wanting to know that
[22:25] <prakriti> Setting up eterm (0.9.5-2ubuntu1) ...
[22:25] <prakriti> eterm: command not found
[22:25] <prakriti> :/
[22:25] <psycho_oreos> Femme, I didn't ask for uname output, and from that output it seems like you're not using ubuntu or at east ubuntu kernel
[22:25] <zeeble> that doesnt look like ubuntu to Femme .. looks like redhat, or centos
[22:25] <psycho_oreos> s/east/least/
[22:25] <GraphicH> prakrit: its Eterm
[22:25] <marvinin> how i know for scanning mi network, i think so that my windows pc there are infected with conficker
[22:25] <GraphicH> haha have to capitalize it
[22:25] <prakriti> GraphicH, tyvm
[22:26] <zeeble> apt-cache search <packagename>
[22:26] <marvinin> i want find it with zenmap
[22:26] <Pudabudigada> Anyway, can anyone help with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551629/
[22:26] <Pudabudigada> ?
[22:26] <marvinin> thanks
[22:26] <bencahill> psycho_oreos, KM0201: I asked him if he was running ubuntu, because he didn't have ufw
[22:26] <perry__> i want to keep windows and it wont let me make another partition. (i have to keep windoes to keep ubuntu secret from my mom lol)
[22:26] <zeeble> lol
[22:26] <KM0201> bencahill: ah... well i'd say that answers that question... :)
[22:26] <beachwood23> Pudabudigada: have you tried logging out then back in?
[22:26] <GraphicH> perry_: haha just install ubuntu and say its Windows 8
[22:26] <Pudabudigada> perry__,  put it on a usb memory stick
[22:26] <KM0201> not to mention, he's root...
[22:26] <psycho_oreos> bencahill, ahh ok and somehow Femme pasted me that uname output
[22:27] <bencahill> KM0201: well, because this is the ubuntu support channel, not that that matters :P
[22:27] <zeeble> perry__: when you install, the ubuntu installer will allow you to delete/format the earlier partition where you had ubuntu 10.04 installed. you can remove, format, reinstall over the rpevious one
[22:27] <perry__> lol!
[22:27] <KM0201> bencahill:  :)
[22:27] <bencahill> psycho_oreos: yeah, I think there's a language barrier, and he's using a translator...
[22:27] <marvinin> im one with ubuntu
[22:28] <prakriti> well crap,  eterm doesn't use real transparency
[22:28] <GraphicH> marvin: language?
[22:28] <Pudabudigada> I'm serious, otherwise your mum will want to know what this 'GRUB' thing is
[22:28] <KM0201> perry__: you do realize when you boot, its going to show grub.. not a good way to hide it from your mom
[22:28] <perry__> i did but it wont let me install it inside windows or install it w/ out deleating it
[22:28] <bencahill> Pudabudigada: :D
[22:28] <marvinin> spanish, english
[22:28] <GraphicH> KM0201: he can make the grub menu not show up
[22:28] <Pudabudigada> And then you can essentially have your pc in your pocket.
[22:28] <perry__> she does.t watch it boot
[22:28] <KM0201> GraphicH: true, then he'll have to make sure he sets windows as default.
[22:28] <GraphicH> KM0201: and set windows as default boot
[22:28] <botcity> perry__:  yeah just get the cd distro that you want and reinstall over the ubuntu that you did not want
[22:29] <KM0201> perry__: doesn't matter, you'll still have to make sure windows default boots.
[22:29] <awesome_guest> sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq gives me "FATAL: Module acpi_cpufreq not found"
[22:29] <psycho_oreos> Pudabudigada, have you read what I said?
[22:29] <GraphicH> gah IRC how you steal my productivity time
[22:29] <SmkMnstr> lol what is w this POS - there is no way to start an xterm from default GUI!
[22:29] <zeeble> or install virtualbox. works fine - windows/linux
[22:29] <perry__> ok thanks! and it does defaulf boot. :)
[22:29] <psycho_oreos> awesome_guest, its not acpi_cpufreq or acpi-cpufreq
[22:29] <SmkMnstr> luckily i enabled ssh serer
[22:29] <intrader> Anyone, I have a problem with my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop since installing 10.10. The fans are always running even with with  `top` reporting only cpu4%
[22:29] <SmkMnstr> so i can ssh in and do service gdm stop
[22:29] <KM0201> zeeble: eh, that depends on the specs of the system.
[22:29] <SmkMnstr> please make it so you can always start an xterm from xwindows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:30] <psycho_oreos> !terminal| SmkMnstr
[22:30] <marvinin> windows is very bad
[22:30] <Pudabudigada> psycho_oreos,  I worked that out, but I'm not sure what the solution may be.
[22:30] <zeeble> KM0201: hm, true
[22:30] <dannyLopez> hello I lost my password of my nick, how can I remember that?
[22:30] <SmkMnstr> there is no applications bar
[22:30] <awesome_guest> psycho_oreos: ok, could you please be more specific?
[22:30] <SmkMnstr> there used to be an applications section on top bar
[22:30] <SmkMnstr> but it just disappeared
[22:30] <SmkMnstr> and now there is no way to start terminal
[22:30] <rumpe1> SmkMnstr, Alt-f2, "gnome-terminal"
[22:30] <psycho_oreos> Pudabudigada, either find the offending process that's using it via lsof or fuser for example and kill it or remove the lock via sudo and try again
[22:30] <beachwood23> smkmnstr: alt-F2
[22:30] <Pudabudigada> SmkMnstr,  ctel-alt-t
[22:30] <zeeble> if you are using gnome, i think Alt+F2 opens a run dialog - type gnome-terminal
[22:30] <Pudabudigada> *ctrl-alt-t
[22:30] <zeeble> there, even more nifty
[22:31] <Pudabudigada> In GNOME
[22:31] <SmkMnstr> ahh nice
[22:31] <dannyLopez> hello I lost my password of my nick, how can I remember that?
[22:31] <SmkMnstr> alt-f2 is very helpful :)
[22:31] <SmkMnstr> thanks
[22:31] <psycho_oreos> awesome_guest, check via lsmod| grep cpufreq. The current cpufreq selected should be visible
[22:31] <bastidrazor> dannyLopez: #freenode can help you.
[22:31] <psycho_oreos> dannyLopez, request for help in #freenode
[22:31] <bazhang> dannyLopez, irc nick? ask for reset in #freenode
[22:32] <breadcrumb> dannyLopez, try #freenode
[22:32] <grifo74> thaks very much it's work the others user now conect fine to internet
[22:32] <awesome_guest> psycho_oreos: returns no output
[22:32] <Pudabudigada> And if you want your menu back, r click on the top panel click 'add to panel' and type 'menu' in the search bar.
[22:32] <dannyLopez> thanks
[22:32] <GraphicH> Oh anyone: Im using acpitemp with conky however CPU temp never changes from 40 C ... ever even under heavy load
[22:32] <botcity> intrader: have you googled your problem there may be a bug
[22:32] <bastidrazor> awesome_guest: i think you're looking for cpufrequtils package and the commands cpufreq-info and cpufreq-set
[22:32] <psycho_oreos> awesome_guest, you'll probably need to install it, let me check
[22:32] <zeeble> is that a laptop or a desktop system, GraphicH ?
[22:33] <awesome_guest> yeah I needed that
[22:33] <GraphicH> zeeble: Desktop, AMD Athlon 64 2 cores
[22:33] <sechrist> Anybody know if I can install protobuf 2.3.0 on lucid (which comes with 2.2.0), without any issues?
[22:33] <intrader> botcity, I have googled it, but did not notice a bug report.
[22:33] <zeeble> GraphicH: yeah. the cpu freq scaling thing is more visiblel in laptops. the fans just go crazy ..
[22:33] <Pudabudigada> SmkMnstr, if you want your menu back, r click on the top panel click 'add to panel' and type 'menu' in the search bar.
[22:34] <intrader> botcity, is there a channel for bugs?
[22:34] <GraphicH> zeeble: wait so hows that have to do with the temp reported by apcitemp being 40 always?
[22:34] <Pudabudigada> SmkMnstr, Add 'custom menu'
[22:34] <SmkMnstr> ok thats guys - ur the best!  gotta reboot now for a test
[22:34] <awesome_guest> interesting.. so speedstep is working (my CPU is at 1GHz, instead of its nominal 2GHz), but my fan is still going
[22:35] <zeeble> give it time ..
[22:35] <GraphicH> zeelbe: I've watched it
[22:35] <zeeble> type sensors in a console and see what you get
[22:35] <GraphicH> cool will do
[22:35] <zeeble> GraphicH: i'd be surprised if it got over 40-42C on a desktop
[22:35] <zeeble> desktops have more powerful fans and more air circulation
[22:36] <yuler> Is it normal for Ubuntu 10.10 (+ updates) to show 80% CPU (system monitor > resources) on a AMD 1600Mhz 1GB machine?  How do I test what is specifically causing that?
[22:36] <botcity> intrader: well that would be here ..
[22:36] <braxton> Hey, my sound won't work. When the user interface loads and prompts me for my password, sometimes it makes a sort of "Pt" sound a few times, then nothing. I was forced to manually unplug my computer multiple times due to a suspend glitch reoccurring. Does anyone know of a possible method to fix this?
[22:36] <psycho_oreos> not necessarily, I average around 40 or so C with c2d @ 2.6GHz with side of case open
[22:36] <zeeble> use top .. to find some runaway processes
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> yuler, in a terminal type "top" and see what's using the CPU
[22:36] <zeeble> wow, psycho_oreos
[22:36] <psycho_oreos> zeeble, mind you its summer here however
[22:37] <zeeble> where at, psycho_oreos?
[22:37] <intrader> botcity, uhm... I have asked about this problem for a couple of months, and no help
[22:37] <GraphicH> zeeble: yeah Ive got a roomy case too and a big fan onit, I see 4 "core" temps listed 2 for each core http://paste.ubuntu.com/551638/
[22:37] <psycho_oreos> zeeble, .au
[22:37] <braxton> I also have an hp pavilion dv7, and I've heard that it has problems with audio. Is there any package that I could reinstall that might fix this problem?
[22:37] <zeeble> the new versions go crazy on my dell laptop at times.. but. i wouldnt notice it, cept in windows 7, everything is fine
[22:38] <Pudabudigada> My problem related: 'top' says that root is running apt-get, which the update manager said was conflicting with it.
[22:38] <zeeble> that looks cool enough, GraphicH
[22:38] <braxton> I would really like to be able to hear things again.
[22:38] <botcity> intrader: dell is it a laptop
[22:38] <plum> hey guys
[22:39] <plum> i want to free some space from /dev/sdb2 and put it into /dev/sdb1...
[22:39] <plum> i can't seem to find out how to do this with gparted though
[22:39] <plum> can someone help me?
[22:39] <GeekSquid> braxton: someone has published a fix for the DV7, I believe upgrading alsa from source or ppa will fix your problem .. also remove pulseaudio
[22:39] <BossOfGames> hello
[22:39] <Pudabudigada> plum You want to change your partitioning?
[22:39] <luketheduke> plum: one, make a backup. don't even try without maing a backup.
[22:39] <braxton> GeekSquid: That sounds fantastic! Can you give me the article URL, please?
[22:39] <BossOfGames> i am trying to install ubuntu on my old dell
[22:39] <GraphicH> zeeble: well yeah it seems fine to me to but conky never reports anything over 40C *ever*, its never changed, is it averaging them?
[22:39] <GeekSquid> plum: you need to boot into the live cd in order to resize partitions
[22:39] <plum> Pudabudigada: yeah
[22:39] <BossOfGames> can you help me
[22:39] <yuler> ZykoticK9: thanks.  xorg spikes to 55% when switched to the resources tab.  What's up with that?
[22:40] <zeeble> GraphicH: no idea. i always use lmsensors ..
[22:40] <plum> GeekSquid: i am in a live partition
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> braxton, remove PulseAudio might not be a good idea!
[22:40] <plum> live cd *
[22:40] <luketheduke> plum: two, you'll have to shrink your sdb2, and then enlarge sdb1
[22:40] <Pudabudigada> Have you tried with a live cd?
[22:40] <braxton> ZykoticK9: Why is that?
[22:40] <zeeble> actually, had never heard of conky ..i'll install it this time
[22:40] <BossOfGames> i have a old dell with a Pentium 4
[22:40] <intrader> botcity, yes the dell inspiron 8200 - a very good machine where I run xp and ubuntu. The xp running tomboty, and XAMPP never turns fan on except on some youtube sites
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> braxton, you'll loose Ubuntu sound for one!  No more volume control, system sounds, etc.
[22:40] <GraphicH> zeeble: conky is pretty nice and it seems to play well with 10, I think it had issues with earlier versions of ubuntu
[22:40] <luketheduke> plum: please make a backup before trying anything. gparted likes to ruin partitioning.
[22:40] <plum> :/
[22:40] <plum> luketheduke: sdb2 doesn't show a shrink option
[22:40] <Stinkypants> I can't seem to get the Ubuntu installer to check (show i meet the requirements) that I have 2.6GB for it.  I am running windows xp, and i partitioned some space for ubuntu (ext2).  Any ideas?
[22:40] <BossOfGames> when i let it go to the gui, my monitors cannot handle it
[22:40] <luketheduke> plum: resize?
[22:41] <braxton> ZykoticK9: :/
[22:41]  * Quantum_Ion Dell's run Hot you can fry an egg off of em
[22:41] <KM0201> BossOfGames: what do you need help with?
[22:41] <intrader> botcity, there appears to be a bug reported - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/675156
[22:41] <Pudabudigada> plum: does it have more than 5GB free?
[22:41] <nit-wit> plum, do you have the swap off
[22:41] <zeeble> just googled. there seems to be multiple reports of issues when people using the new ubuntu 2.6.35 version kernels
[22:41] <braxton> ZykoticK9: I can alter the volume using alsa in the terminal. As long as my sound works, I'm googd.
[22:41] <BossOfGames> i am having issues installing
[22:41] <zeeble> about the heat issue on some laptops
[22:41] <plum> nit-wit: i don't think i do
[22:41] <plum> Pudabudigada: it does
[22:41] <nit-wit> plum, live cd correct
[22:41] <BossOfGames> my screen goes black and does nothing but hangs
[22:41] <plum> yeah
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> braxton, ok - well just know what you're in for.
[22:41] <nit-wit> plum, you have to turn the swap off
[22:41] <braxton> Alright, thanks, ZykoticK9
[22:42] <zeeble> turn swap off? why?
[22:42] <Quantum_Ion> Dell laptops will cook yah and shock yah
[22:42] <zeeble> Quantum_Ion: :(
[22:42] <mrneeg> hey, any way to get nvidia cards working with optimus?
[22:42]  * zeeble bought the cheapest dell
[22:42] <GraphicH> zeeble: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551639/ thats my conky config, fun for the whole family
[22:42] <Stinkypants> >	I can't seem to get the Ubuntu installer to check (show i meet the requirements) that I have 2.6GB for it. I am running windows xp, and i partitioned some space for ubuntu (ext2). Any ideas (i used partition magic, and i also created a linux swap partition)?
[22:42] <plum> that worked nit-wit
[22:42] <plum> i now see the ability to resize/move
[22:42] <Quantum_Ion> zeeble, I don't know why Dell laptops run Hot they just do and some will shock you too
[22:42] <bastidrazor> GraphicH: there is an #conky channel
[22:42] <Pudabudigada> I get this with top in terminal: 1760 root      30  10  6656 2012 1696 R 33.0  0.4  33:20.10 apt-get
[22:42] <zeeble> GraphicH: thanks :)
[22:43] <braxton> GeekSquid: I actually just found the problem... for some reason, alsamixer decided to set the master volume to zero.
[22:43] <GraphicH> bastidrazor: yeah Im just trying to convert him to conky is all haha
[22:43] <nit-wit> zeeble, generally the swap has a lock on the OS
[22:43] <plum> luketheduke: i don't have much to lose on my partition i'm shrinking
[22:43] <zeeble> nit-wit: oh
[22:43] <plum> so i just hope it won't kill it
[22:43] <plum> :s
[22:43] <plum> but what about the one growing
[22:43] <bastidrazor> GraphicH: oh, i must have misread. i thought you were having issues with conky.
[22:43] <plum> will that one lose data?
[22:43] <botcity> intrader: do you know how to paste bin
[22:43] <zeeble> just checked some screenshots of conky, GraphicH .. looks nice :)
[22:44] <zeeble> like a big version of gkrellm
[22:44] <intrader> botcity, I have saved the link somewhere
[22:44] <GraphicH> zeeble: I know right? let me take a screeny of my setup
[22:44] <nit-wit> plum, thats the ticket always look for the locks on the partition, in gparted.
[22:44] <zeeble> GraphicH: :)
[22:45] <zeeble> damn, shouldnt have chosen xfs instead of ext4
[22:46] <intrader> botcity, ready in a firefox tab...
[22:46] <awesome_guest> hey, anyone know what "acpi_osi=Linux" does?
[22:46] <awesome_guest> apparently that does something with the fan
[22:46] <awesome_guest> should I ask in #ubuntu-dev?
[22:46] <ShootEmUp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662153
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> awesome_guest, it fixes my brightness issue on my EEEPC for one ;)
[22:47] <Stinkypants> I can't install Ubuntu to a partition i created on my hard drive, anyone know why?
[22:47] <GraphicH> zeeble: whers a good place to put screenshots?
[22:47] <botcity> if you can bring up a terminal and paste lscpu  output...  cat /proc/cpuinfo  output... and lshw output....
[22:47] <zeeble> GraphicH: .. no idea. your flickr account? :P
[22:48] <GraphicH> bah flickr!
[22:48] <zeeble> or maybe just tinypic it
[22:48] <GraphicH> I has it not
[22:48] <bastidrazor> !image
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> !paste | GraphicH
[22:48] <Stinkypants> i first tried to install with the space unallocated, failed. So i created the partition in EXT2 format, and it still cant install. (says it cant find the space (x mark for required 2.6GB) )
[22:48] <plum> luketheduke: is there a high risk of the partition i'm Growing, losing its data?
[22:48] <bastidrazor> !imagebin | rather
[22:48] <Pudabudigada> GraphicH, Try mediafire
[22:48] <GraphicH> zeeble: thats what my conky looks like http://oi54.tinypic.com/1zxle9l.jpg
[22:49] <GraphicH> the square line is an artifact from capturing the image
[22:49] <intrader> botcity, I changed GRUB CMDLINE LINUX_DEFAULT="quit splash acpi_osi=Linux" as suggeste about a month ago without a change in behavior
[22:49] <GraphicH> in the bottom left
[22:49] <zeeble> nice, GraphicH :)
[22:50] <GraphicH> zeeble: you can make it do crazier stuff with LAU scripting and theres all sorts of graphs and gradients built in
[22:50] <GraphicH> lau
[22:50] <intrader> botcity, sorry-correction:I changed GRUB CMDLINE LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux" as suggested about a month ago without a change in behavior
[22:50] <GraphicH> lua* damn
[22:50] <GraphicH> gah I have to get back to work though lol
[22:51] <awesome_guest> hey I don't have a /etc/default/grub file.. is it OK to just create one?
[22:51] <Stinkypants> Guess I won't find help here.... *Exits*
[22:51] <awesome_guest> or is there a new config file I should be looking at (9.10)
[22:52] <luketheduke> plum: yes.
[22:52] <GraphicH> awesome_guest: what version of grub you running?
[22:52] <awesome_guest> I have no clue.. how do I find out?
[22:52] <Texou> hi
[22:52] <plum> aw ma
[22:52] <bastidrazor> awesome_guest: 9.10 started using grub2
[22:52] <plum> n
[22:52] <bastidrazor> !grub2 | awesome_guest
[22:52] <awesome_guest> alright thanks
[22:53] <botcity> intrader: if you can bring up a terminal and paste lscpu  output...  cat /proc/cpuinfo  output... and lshw output....
[22:53] <plum> well here's hoping it will work
[22:53] <GraphicH> awesome_guest: 9.04 is your version though?
[22:53] <plum> hahaha
[22:53] <awesome_guest> nope 9.10
[22:53] <Texou> I installed ubuntu 10.10, but now I can boot in rescue mode, whereas in classical mode, I've a purple screen, the mouse, but not the desktop. Why? :( it's as if metacity or nautilus couldn't run. My card is an ati
[22:53] <Pudabudigada> My output of 'top' is this, root is running apt-get http://img249.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1tl.png/
[22:53]  * GraphicH shrugs
[22:53] <GraphicH> I have no idea why you dont have a deafult grub file
[22:53] <Texou> with 9.04 it worked until an upgrade
[22:54] <ohzie> Hey guys. I was going to add a script that I want to run at logon to my .bashrc, and before I did it i decided that I should probably check here to make sure there wasn't a more prefered method for startups?
[22:54] <bastidrazor> GraphicH: my screenshot of my laptop with conky in the bottom right.
[22:54] <bastidrazor> http://imagebin.org/131512 GraphicH
[22:54] <awesome_guest> like.. grub2 is still configured via /etc/default/grub right
[22:54] <zeeble> are you using gnome or xfce, Pudabudigada?
[22:54] <bastidrazor> awesome_guest: no, read the links since many things have changed from grub to grub2
[22:54] <awesome_guest> I don't even have that file
[22:54] <plum> ok i gotta go guys
[22:54] <plum> cya later, thank you for the help
[22:54] <ohzie> Texou: you installed 10.10 fresh or you upgraded from 9.10 to 10.10?
[22:54] <awesome_guest> nice how end users have to deal with this haha
[22:55] <Texou> ohzie: fresh, from a CD
[22:55] <GraphicH> bastidrazor: nice I should think about adding color but I kind of got a black and white thing going on with SlicknessBlack theme
[22:55] <zeeble> awesome_guest: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:55] <ohzie> Texou: That's very strange. Can you check the CD for problems please?
[22:55] <ohzie> Texou: The only reason I suggest it is to rule it out.
[22:55] <awesome_guest> so it's /boot/grub/grubenv??
[22:55] <ohzie> Texou: Additionally in a terminal "sudo lshw" and pastebin it
[22:55] <awesome_guest> grubenv*
[22:56] <awesome_guest> I don't have a grub.cfg file
[22:56] <GraphicH> awesome_guest: also nice that end users dont have to pay 300+ dollars for windows ;-)
[22:56] <Texou> ok thanks
[22:56] <NixGeek> Pudabudigada: it looks like your downloading something, are you doing an update or installing a program?
[22:56] <Texou> ok I try this I come back later. Thanks
[22:56] <ohzie> Texou: I will not be able to help you troubleshoot your problem but these things will help other people troubleshoot your problem. Check the CD. Check the graphical driver that xorg is using as well.
[22:56] <bastidrazor> GraphicH: color is crazy easy to add.
[22:57] <GraphicH> awesome_guest: ok so youre looking for /etc/default/grub? but its not there and you've 100% verified this?
[22:57] <m1chael> sudo apt-get install postgresql # this seems to want to install postgresql 8.4 .. i want 9.. what should i do?
[22:57] <Texou> ohzie: ok thanks very much. I'll ask again when I'm back. With additional tests (lshw and others). How can I know driver used by xorg?
[22:57] <GraphicH> bastidrazor: I was thinking about doing a gradiant on the usage bars
[22:57] <awesome_guest> you know what would be nice?  a centralized directory where people could discuss config options
[22:57] <awesome_guest> are there too many permutations for that to be feasible?
[22:58] <bastidrazor> GraphicH: http://pastebin.com/dk005LGs  .. i use a gradient on mine but up/down instead of left/right
[22:58] <GraphicH> awesome_guest: yes kind of but what are you trying to do exactly? Not just that you dont have default/grub
[22:58] <ohzie> Texou: I'm not sure in Lucid to be honest. It doesn't have an xorg.conf
[22:58] <ohzie> Texou: That's one of the things that makes me butthurt about lucid. I don't know if that was a choice by the ubuntu dev team or the xorg dev team though.
[22:58] <intrader> botcity, fantastic stuff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551642/
[22:59] <Texou> I understand
[22:59] <Pudabudigada> NixGeek, Not now, I ran apt-get upgrade a little while ago
[22:59] <awesome_guest> GraphicH: essentially figure out how to fix ubuntu's default suboptimal configuration for my specific HW platform
[22:59] <ohzie> Texou: Good luck and godspeed
[22:59] <ohzie> :3
[22:59] <GraphicH> bastidrazor: what templating engine are they using? the text section seems to be very similar to stuff Ive seen with PyCUDA code templates
[22:59] <awesome_guest> naturally they emphasize stability for all platforms over specific tweaks
[22:59] <Pudabudigada> 'cause I couldn't use update manager
[22:59] <Texou> ok thanks I check the CD. See you soon and thanks very much :) oh thanks
[23:00] <bastidrazor> GraphicH: i wrote that modeled off of the pre-Lua conky rc's
[23:00] <zeeble> what's weechat? lol
[23:00] <lucas> anyone worked with remmina? Don't know how to begin to configure
[23:00] <GraphicH> ah crap wife
[23:00] <awesome_guest> GraphicH: I'm using grub2 (9.10) so it seems /etc/default/grub is deprecated
[23:00] <wrd> zeeble: an irc client
[23:00] <zeeble> wrd: yeah, just saw the name for the first time. looks nice :)
[23:00] <zeeble> maybe it will be like irssi
[23:00] <Pudabudigada> zeeble, GNOME, but on a xubuntu installation
[23:00] <Forkk> sup
[23:01] <NixGeek> Pudabudigada: if your sure, run "sudo kill 1760"
[23:01] <zeeble> Pudabudigada: okay
[23:01] <awesome_guest> grub2's /boot/grub/grub.cfg is not there for me either
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> awesome_guest, grub2 uses /etc/default/grub!
[23:01] <bastidrazor> awesome_guest: you would not manually edit the grub.cfg regardless. use the scripts in /etc/default/grub
[23:02] <GeekSquid> lucas: not really something you configure, something you use to connect to a remote host, which has been properly configured
[23:02] <Forkk> Hey i'm having trouble with my sound, i'm not sure if it's the driver or what...
[23:02] <rumpe1> awesome_guest, perhaps the grub-config is on another partition?
[23:02] <bastidrazor> awesome_guest: if you would read the links i gave you earlier then this would be very clear.
[23:02] <Pudabudigada> NixGeek,  If this breaks something will a reboot fix it?
[23:02] <awesome_guest> ls /etc/default.. don't see "grub"
[23:02] <Jordan_U> awesome_guest: Then you have grub legacy installed.
[23:02] <NixGeek> Pudabudigada: all it will do is kill apt-get, but yes a reboot will fix it.  it's just stopping a program
[23:02] <rumpe1> awesome_guest, is there only one linux-distribution installed?
[23:03] <awesome_guest> I have 3 kernels installed, using the most recent
[23:03] <Forkk> My sound drops out for like a few seconds, then it comes back on and plays like all the sounds that it missed at once
[23:03] <Pudabudigada> 'k I wondered 'cause it's been starting on boot.
[23:03] <cradam> can my computer get any slower?
[23:03] <lucas> GeekSquid: I try to connect remotely to my desktop... What do I have to do on the desktop?
[23:04] <tuxd> tuxd
[23:04] <GeekSquid> lucas: enable remote desktop ... Ubuntu Desktop?
[23:04] <lucas> yes
[23:04] <GeekSquid> lucas: System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[23:05] <Jordan_U> awesome_guest: What is the output of "grub-install --version"?
[23:05] <lucas> GeekSquid: trying right now... any preferred protocol you propose?
[23:05] <wrd> zeeble: it feels a bit different to irssi but it's nice as well. rather a matter of taste
[23:05] <intrader> FloodBot, sorry about mistake with awesome_guest - I said to ignore!
[23:05] <zeeble> wrd: yes, will try it out in a little while
[23:06] <Pudabudigada> NixGeek,  how do I stop root running apt-get on boot?
[23:06] <GeekSquid> lucas: It will automatically set it up for you .... is your desktop behind a firewall, that makes things more complicated???
[23:06] <NixGeek> Pudabudigada: try restarting, it shouldn't be running
[23:06] <xiven> Is WebMin the quickest/best way to create admin and/or user accounts for SSH, [s]FTP,  maybe SSH Remote Desktop and/or email?
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> !webmin | xiven
[23:06] <Pudabudigada> Cheers
[23:07] <GeekSquid> xvin: man adduser
[23:07] <NixGeek> Pudabudigada: at boot anyways, Mabey it just got started and needed stopped.  sorry about 2 lines, I accidently hit enter...
[23:07] <Pudabudigada> Brb, I may have more problems >.<
[23:08] <intrader> botcity, studying the awesome output of lshw
[23:09] <xiven> Oh, it's  a good thing I've never used it before then! Are there any successors?
[23:10] <lucas> GeekSquid: I disabled the fw because I had problems with Samba... I couldn't figure out which ports to open
[23:10] <Ademan> my root partition errored and was remounted read only, I want to try remounting it read/write, I tried  sudo mount -o remount,rw /    and got back "mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda6 read-write, is write-protected"
[23:10] <GeekSquid> lucas: regardless, are you trying to remote into your desktop from outside your network i.e. work, starbucks?
[23:11] <botcity> intrader: please tell me the output of the inactive ratio in cat /proc/zoneinfo you may as well paste another report
[23:12] <lucas> GeekSquid: I am trying to do this on my local network... If I manage to do this, then I will try to do this from another
[23:12] <GeekSquid> Lucas: make it easy on yourself ... install www.teamviewer.com ... they have clients for linux/windows/apple
[23:12] <sacarlson> Ademan: I remember in my old ide disk there was a jumper on the disk to disable write,  but is that possible on your disk?
[23:12] <helpmeplzzzz> need help with dns zones to add multiple domains for same nameservers.
[23:13] <helpmeplzzzz> anyway ideas guys?
[23:13] <helpmeplzzzz> im using nsd3
[23:13] <Fishscene1> How the heck did I trigger the SPAM detection routine in this channel?
[23:14] <Fishscene1> ....
[23:14] <erUSUL> Fishscene1: ask in #ubuntu-ops ?
[23:14] <Ademan> sacarlson: no, especially since just a minute ago my drive was read write :-) in dmesg there's an ext3 error and then ubuntu remounted it read only (whatever, that seems better than just dropping it, but now I need to get it back)
[23:14] <intrader> botcity, http://paste.ubuntu.com/551644/
[23:14] <lucas> GeekSquid: I 've already tried successfully with teamviewer. But the overall performance was really VEEERY sluggish. Now I have seen on a magazine that they praised remmina and just want to see if it's better
[23:15] <sacarlson> Ademan: maybe boot a live cd and do an fsck on it
[23:15] <zeeble> damn, i kinda like it when the internet connection is as fast as this :)
[23:16] <GeekSquid> lucas: you will have to learn how to configure your router in order to get it to work outside your network, or, setup a tunnel.... sorry man I have to run, group conference in 3 min
[23:16]  * zeeble needs a 20mbps connection at home too
[23:16] <lucas> GeekSquid: Thanks friend!!!!!
[23:16]  * GeekSquid has a 20mbps connnection and it is still too slow
[23:17] <zeeble> lol
[23:17] <Ademan> sacarlson: yeah probably
[23:17] <zeeble> i dont download much .. cept when doing a netinstall
[23:17] <intrader> Sieben, acht - could not help it
[23:18] <sacarlson> Ademan: I did find this sudo  mount -n -o remount, rw /
[23:18] <GeekSquid> zeeble: problem is I upload a lot, and backup servers here, I have a datacenter in Los Angeles, I haven't visited it in 2 years, for all I know the door hasn't been even been unlocked, I should really go in there with a vacuum
[23:19] <Sieben> Hello intrader
[23:19] <zeeble> GeekSquid: oops
[23:19] <Sieben> :)
[23:19] <zeeble> your servers will thank you .. and the fan will run smoother
[23:20] <intrader> Sieben, hello!
[23:20] <MagicJ> I need to get  a byte tpo the parallel port and have found example code in C - uses #include <asm/io.h> - where do I get this?
[23:20] <nigamajiga> ello
[23:20] <nigamajiga> how are ya
[23:20] <mgj> Anyone know an alternative to gnomba for ubuntu? Something to browse samba shares on the network.
[23:20] <Ademan> sacarlson: that -n might be the key, thanks
[23:20] <erUSUL> MagicJ: kernel headers ?
[23:20] <Sieben> I'm fine
[23:20] <nigamajiga> good
[23:20] <Sieben> :)
[23:21] <MagicJ> what do you mean erUSUL?
[23:21] <erUSUL> !find asm/io.h
[23:21] <jangell> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 server on 7 different servers that all have two quad core xeon processors.  Nothing is running on the systems but they have high idle load averages about 0.40.  powertop reports a lot of "Load balancing tick" ..I see some bug reports out there.  Is there a fix for this?
[23:21] <zeeble> mgj: komba2
[23:21] <mgj> zeeble, thanks
[23:21] <erUSUL> MagicJ: File asm/io.h found in linux-headers-2.6.32-305, linux-headers-2.6.35-22, ....
[23:21] <MagicJ> I believe that I have the full system installed - but clearly not - erUSUL
[23:21] <Ademan> sacarlson: no dice, thanks though, it looked right :-)
[23:21] <erUSUL> MagicJ: « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) »
[23:21] <Ademan> I need to clear that write protection flag that ubuntu *thinks* is on that partition (or it is on the partition for no good reason)
[23:22] <intrader> botcity, did you get the /proc/soneinfo?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/551644/
[23:22] <GeekSquid> jangell: have you updated them?
[23:22] <goose84> Whats the best command to delete a large amount of folders and files as rm is taking age
[23:23] <goltoof> !best
[23:23] <jangell> GeekSquid: Yes.  I did a dist-upgrade and rebooted.  It looks like you almost need 2.6.35 for the fix.  2.6.32 is the latest for 10.04.
[23:23] <goltoof> goose84:  rm -rd
[23:23] <erUSUL> goltoof: i do not now of anything better then rm
[23:23] <sacarlson> Ademan: did you get Command not found?
[23:23] <sebastian> hi
[23:24] <goltoof> erUSUL:  yeah me neither.. except nautilus gui :/
[23:24] <goose84> whats the d do?
[23:24] <Ademan> sacarlson: nope, same error as before "mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda6 read-write, is write-protected"
[23:24] <erUSUL> goltoof: nothing according to "man rm"
[23:24] <mosty> in ubuntu 10.10 when an X window becomes unresponsive, it is greyed out and seems to be killed by some process. what is that process and how can i stop it?
[23:24] <mgj> goltoof, BestBot does not appear to be online....?
[23:25] <erUSUL> goltoof: that option does not exist ....
[23:25] <botcity> intrader: yeah cd  /proc/fan  and then type  ls  ..      for me .. there sould be nothing there!
[23:25] <goose84> rm is so slow would find be better?
[23:25] <Yetanotherx> Hi all. I'm trying to dualboot ubuntu on my macbook. I've downloaded the iso, and burned it to a CD. YEt when I load, it says "cannot mount /dev/loop0". any ideas?
[23:25] <Ademan> mosty: the greying out is an effect, compiz does it, I don't know anything about it being killed though (my windows will just sit there greyed out)
[23:25] <erUSUL> goltoof: do not think so. you can try both and benchmark
[23:25] <MagicJ> erUSUL - it tells me I need to chose - i tried the most recent - it installed - still get gcc error asm/io.h - no such file or directory
[23:25] <bastidrazor> Ademan: that would indicate that the application is locked up.
[23:26] <Ademan> bastidrazor: right...
[23:26] <pablom> hello to everyone! i was wondering if you can help me with some troubles i'm  having while ubuntu server installation
[23:26] <mosty> bastidrazor, is something killing these "locked up" processes?
[23:26] <intrader> botcity, 'no such file or directory'
[23:27] <bastidrazor> mosty: killing them? no, finding out why they are locking up is the real question.
[23:27] <sebastian> Jest tu jakiś polak?
[23:27] <erUSUL> !pl | sebastian
[23:27] <botcity> intrader: ok
[23:27] <erUSUL> MagicJ: dunno; missing gcc option? ask in ##c
[23:27] <bastidrazor> Ademan: i need to read upwards more. i thought you were asking a question.
[23:28] <MagicJ> erUSUL ty
[23:28] <intrader> botcity, ls is empty for /proc/acpi/fan
[23:28] <Ademan> bastidrazor: ah, no problem :-)
[23:29] <^self^> whats the command to regenerate the grub menu list? i just did a kernel upgrade while having an external usb drive plugged in (which happens to be from another pc)and it detected the OS installed on that drive, but I don't want that OS coming up on the grub list
[23:29] <bastidrazor> ^self^: sudo update-grub
[23:29] <^self^> ta
[23:30] <quidnunc> Can anyone recommend a gpu stress test
[23:30] <quidnunc> ?
[23:31] <BernardV> quidnunc: distributed.net or boinc? If you have cuda at least...
[23:31] <intrader> botcity, `cat  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature` -->temperature: 43C
[23:31] <quidnunc> BernardV: no cuda
[23:31] <NixGeek> quidnunc: mprime, it's the linux version of prime95
[23:31] <cradam> can any1 tell me where to get drivers for a nvidia geforce 2 go
[23:31] <BernardV> NixGeek: It's not GPU
[23:31] <MrUnagi> why does 'for' not have a man pge
[23:32] <MrUnagi> page
[23:32] <botcity> intrader: yeah erm .. good what is the state
[23:32] <intrader> botcity, ---> ok
[23:32] <quidnunc> NixGeek: that is not a gpu stress test
[23:32] <BernardV> quidnunc: Then I don't know.. sorry
[23:32] <botcity> intrader: or trippoints
[23:33] <NixGeek> BernardV: woops!  I thought he said cpu, I'm looking at 2 screens at once, and i've only had this setup for a week
[23:33] <awesome_guest> Jordan_U: GNU Grub 0.97.  Sorry stepped out for a moment
[23:33] <intrader> botcity, trip_points---> critical(55):      94C crlf passive (forced):<not set>
[23:33] <BernardV> NixGeek: Hehe.. congratz with the extra screen :)
[23:34] <cradam> can any1 tell me where to get drivers for a nvidia geforce 2 go
[23:34] <intrader> botcity, look pretty normal to me - why the fan?
[23:34] <cradam> can any1 tell me where to get drivers for a nvidia geforce 2 go
[23:34] <Yetanotherx> Anyone can help me...
[23:35] <NixGeek> BernardV: It's an old CRT monitor I had laying around.  I built this computer for christmas and my other computer only supports one monitor.  I'm thinking about getting another 21.5" led, like my current main monitor (well, really it's a tv)
[23:35] <Ademan> One more time: During normal operation I received an ext3 error and ubuntu remounted my root partition as read only.  Typically I just reboot and all is well, however I'd like to resolve this without rebooting. I tried to remount with 'mount -n -o remount,rw /' but I get an error "mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda6 read-write, is write-protected"  The drive won't be considered write-protected when I reboot. Does anyone know
[23:35] <ssfdre38> when will ubuntu put PHP 5.3.5 on there servers for download
[23:35] <dreamwalk> Anyone wanna help a new install Plane shift from downloaded .bin file?
[23:35] <mosty> cradam, isn't there a "get third party hardware drivers" icon bugging you when you login?
[23:35] <Ademan> !ask | dreamwalk
[23:36] <cradam> can any help me get drivers for my laptop
[23:36] <dreamwalk> any one wise with installing planeshift?
[23:36] <nothingspecial> Yetanotherx: I`ve never seen that error........ did you checkn the disk?
[23:36] <dreamwalk> cradam, what drivers do you need?
[23:36] <Yetanotherx> nothingspecial: How do I do that?
[23:37] <awesome_guest> would it be advisable to remove old kernels?
[23:37] <nothingspecial> md5, the info is on the ubuntu web page ;
[23:37] <bastidrazor> awesome_guest: i normally keep two.. the current and thenext to latest. uninstalling them is the proper way to remove them.
[23:37] <cradam> dreamwalk, all of them
[23:38] <dreamwalk> cradam, what do you mean what error is it giving?
[23:38] <stamet034> hello room. is there a program for ubuntu that can edit PDF metadata?
[23:38] <BernardV> NixGeek: Currently on a netbook (1024*600) and an external 17" tft (1280*1024).. this is my garage PC (smoke room), normally a MacBookPro 1680x1050 and if @ home an tft with 1920*1200.. but if I would have to work with one monitor (like when on location on my laptop) I miss the extra monitor every second
[23:38] <Yetanotherx> nothingspecial: I did that before anything went wrong. :)
[23:38] <Yetanotherx> The ISO is fine.
[23:39] <mosty> cradam, they are all installed for you when you install ubuntu
[23:39] <nothingspecial> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[23:39] <Yetanotherx> nothingspecial: I did.
[23:39] <Yetanotherx> And it worked.
[23:39] <Yetanotherx> It matches.
[23:39] <dreamwalk> anyone play Planeshift?
[23:40] <dreamwalk> needing install
[23:40] <dreamwalk> advice.  sorry it's spaced like that
[23:40] <cradam> dreamwalk, theyre weren't any errors i just thought u needed drivers for the chipset and stuff
[23:40] <mosty> cradam, nope. if it works, you're good to go
[23:40] <dreamwalk> cradam , if it's working fine, and the interent is good then no
[23:40] <awesome_guest> anyone familar with menu.lst?  I'd like to add the string "acpi_osi=Linux" somewhere, but I don't think "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" was implemented with Grub 0.97
[23:41] <cradam> dreamwalk,  i also thought i needed drivers because it is very slow when software manager is installing or update manager is at work
[23:41] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: in grub1 you add it in a line that looks like this « # defoptions=quiet splash »
[23:41] <nothingspecial> Yetanotherx: Ooooh, Ijust scrolled up!!!
[23:42] <diecastarts> heya all .. just a small problem i am having .. i setup network and all that and working great ... but not the file i sent over .. i cannot decompress the file because not owner .. and the computer i used to send the file over to it .. cannot determen the ownership ectect
[23:42] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:42] <mosty> cradam, that's because it's using your hard drive a lot
[23:42] <dreamwalk> cradam , sounds like a low computer... but the drivers shouldn't be an issue.
[23:42] <nothingspecial> Yetanotherx: Macbook - don`t know
[23:42] <diecastarts> is there a command to change over the owner of the files?
[23:42] <dreamwalk> cradam, i think it's just your hardware...like and old computer..
[23:42] <diecastarts> cannot seem do it by the gui
[23:42] <EvilPhoenix> what's the keyring program called?
[23:42] <BernardV> diecastarts: chown
[23:43] <cradam> mosty, dreamwalk its a rubbish netbook, 488MB ram and a GHz processor
[23:43] <rumpe1> diecastarts, sudo chown newowner filename
[23:43] <erUSUL> !permissions > diecastarts
[23:43] <diecastarts> so have to do that to every file?
[23:43] <dreamwalk> cradam, OH! did you make sure to get the Distrobution for netbooks?
[23:43] <bastidrazor> EvilPhoenix: gnome-keyring ?
[23:43] <cradam> yes
[23:43] <BernardV> diecastarts: Nope * will do ;)
[23:43] <erUSUL> diecastarts: like chmod it supports -R
[23:43] <awesome_guest> so I have defoptions=quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux
[23:43] <Yetanotherx> nothingspecial: back in a sec, rebooting and trying with USB
[23:43] <cradam> unity didnt work for some reason when i first booted
[23:43] <rumpe1> diecastarts, then chown -R newowner directory
[23:43] <mosty> cradam, this is normal behaviour for a netbook, nothing to worry about
[23:43] <diecastarts> can you do that by folder?
[23:43] <EvilPhoenix> bastidrazor:  got a GUI equivalent?
[23:44] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: yes; then run « sudo update-grub »
[23:44] <BernardV> And like erUSUL said -R for recursive...
[23:44] <cradam> mosty,  is unity meant to work on first boot?
[23:44] <diecastarts> k thanks rumpe1
[23:44] <pablom> hi... anyone can help me with eth0 on ubuntu server?
[23:44] <dreamwalk> cradam, then i'm affraid there isn't really much to do.. I mean, not that I can help with, I would get rid of some extra programs and such... you'll have to ask around here to find out how.
[23:44] <mosty> cradam, no i meant that things slow down when running a software update
[23:44] <cradam> ahh
[23:44] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: chow -R newuser:newgroup directory/
[23:44] <cradam> ok thx bye
[23:44] <diecastarts> ls
[23:44] <dreamwalk> cradam, mosty is right... i must have missed that.
[23:44] <awesome_guest> chow or chown?
[23:45] <intrader> botcity, I must leave for a while - could you email me at aol dot com?
[23:45] <erUSUL> chown*
[23:45] <martinZGR> hi, i need help using ffmpeg or mencoder - i have an AVI DivX video and i want to make it H.264 320x240 mp4 for my mobile - i could use some help with that
[23:45] <bastidrazor> EvilPhoenix: i'm in 10.04 and it is Application > Accessories > Password and Key encryption
[23:45] <awesome_guest> can I ask what that does?
[23:45] <awesome_guest> make menu.lst readable?
[23:45] <EvilPhoenix> bastidrazor:  ah thanks
[23:45] <erUSUL> martinZGR: why not use arista or winff ? ( both gui with presets )
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> martinZGR, Handbrake.  ffmpeg has AAC disabled in Ubuntu.
[23:45] <mosty> martinZGR, try transmageddon - very easy to use
[23:46] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: aplies the new defoptions to the kernel entries in the file
[23:46] <botcity> intrader: nothings jumping out at me  but if you keep googling .. you may find a solution maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842775
[23:46] <botcity> intrader: it seems alot of dells suffer
[23:47] <awesome_guest> erUSUL: running that command, I get "chown: invalid user: `newuser:newgroup'"
[23:47] <ZykoticK9> awesome_guest, you need to replace newuser and newgroup with actual user/group names.
[23:47] <nothingspecial> martinZGR: you need to make a script. #ffmpeg will help. Be patient. Nice guys.
[23:47] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: well you have to put the actual new user you want to change the files to
[23:47] <Yetanotherx> So I make a USB drive, and I set it up using the commands the download page gave me. Yet it is still not bootable.
[23:48] <erUSUL> awesome_guest: btw; if you do not want to change the group drop the ":newgroup" from the command line
[23:49] <awesome_guest> advisable to change owner to root, or no?
[23:49] <dods> t
[23:49] <cp24eva> hey all. I'm new. How do I find the software that i downloaded through synaptic?
[23:49] <redcode> Has someone got Deus Ex working in Wine?
[23:49] <Leif> Does anyone know how to set up a 32 bit chroot in 10.10?
[23:49] <Leif> (I'm on a 64 bit os at the moment)
[23:49] <awesome_guest> "sudo chown root /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[23:50] <milamber> cp24eva: can you be more specific? did you download a specific app you are looking for? or do you want to see all the software you have downloaded?
[23:50] <mosty> leif: there's an arch flag (iirc) to debootstrap
[23:50] <cp24eva> a specific app. I downloaded conky and can't find it.
[23:51] <Leif> mosty, Okay, although I'm not sure what difference that would make?  Is arch 32 bits by default?
[23:51] <nothingspecial> cp24eva: type conky in a terminal
[23:51] <BernardV> martinZGR: I think something like this can work: ffmpeg -i input.avi -f h264 -vcodec libx264 -s 320x240 -r 25 output.ext
[23:51] <Leif> mosty, woops.
[23:51] <Leif> mosty, Never mind, I didn't realize arch stood for architecture.
[23:51]  * Leif reads the man page
[23:51] <mosty> leif, no prob
[23:51] <diecastarts> thanks again all later
[23:52] <cp24eva> nothingspecial, is that it?
[23:52] <nothingspecial> cp24eva: yep
[23:52] <cp24eva> nothing special, I dont see it
[23:52]  * NixGeek thinks his 756k connection is really slow and wants fiber optic
[23:53] <nothingspecial> cp24eva: ?????
[23:53] <cp24eva> nothingspecial, nevermind. in a different workspace
[23:53] <humanbean> to register my nick I type the commands in the same place I type to chat?
[23:53] <cp24eva> is there a way to do like Mac OS and make all the windows show up?
[23:53] <aroman> hey guys, how can I not show the networking panel notifier in Maverick?
[23:53] <hiexpo> !register
[23:54] <aroman> cp24eva, more specifically?
[23:54] <redcode> That expose feature, I think
[23:54] <awesome_guest> so... "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic" is how to remove an old kernel, right?
[23:54] <aroman> cp24eva, Compiz can do the same thing and more. I use it myself on a regular basis as a Mac and Linux dualbooter
[23:55] <cp24eva> aroman, like if I move the mouse to a corner of a screen and all the windows show up in equally laid out spaces
[23:55] <nothingspecial> awesome_guest: from where?
[23:55] <aroman> cp24eva, yup, you can do EXACTLY that. sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:55] <awesome_guest> nothingspecial: uh, from the system?
[23:55] <cradam> i have a problem with my unity
[23:56] <CodeWar> just wanted to drop by and say great job .. I installed 10.04 netbook on my netbook that came wtih Windows 7 ..
[23:56] <CodeWar> my quick analysis .. fonts look better.. saves more power .. runs faster (oh yes .. much faster)
[23:56] <MrUnagi> how can i do a for statement to mass rename a double extension.......i am confused........for dbl in *.JPG.jpg; do mv $dbl just moves the file.....how can i have the mv command rename it
[23:56] <cp24eva> aroman, thanks, i'll give it a shot.
[23:56] <redcode> In a nutshell, are games generally running with wine?
[23:56] <bigpresh> Am I right in expecting sound to Just Work with 10.10, on a laptop with an "Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio" audio device?  aplay -l shows no soundcards, as does Sound Preferences -> Hardware
[23:56] <MrUnagi> !steam
[23:56] <cradam> i have a problem with my unity its sayin a driver which is required for it is missing
[23:56] <nothingspecial> awesome_guest: do you want toremove an old kernel?
[23:57] <awesome_guest> yep
[23:57] <aroman> cp24eva, no probs. If you have any questions about how to set it up, i'm happy to help :)
[23:57] <milamber> cp24eva: wmtile might also be what you seek
[23:57] <nothingspecial> awesome_guest: Don`t bother
[23:57] <mosty> cradam, can you paste the exact message?
[23:57] <cp24eva> aroman, it didn't open it up. it said: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:57] <cp24eva> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:58] <awesome_guest> um, why?
[23:58] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: you should check out pyrenamer http://www.infinicode.org/code/pyrenamer/
[23:58] <cradam> ill have to log out then write it down then give it to you
[23:58] <botcity> CodeWar: i didnt even boot windows strait install from shop no windows ever saw the light of day
[23:58] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: does that mean that with a for loop you cannot do it?
[23:58] <cradam> i have a problem with my unity its sayin a driver which is required for it is missing mosty
[23:58] <cradam> oops
[23:58] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: it's a gui that can rename stuf like that
[23:58] <aroman> cp24eva, Are you installing updates or new software?
[23:58] <cradam> ill have to log out then write it down then give it to you mosty
[23:58] <mosty> cradam, i know but i don't think anyone can help without more details
[23:58] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: i was hoping for a cli option
[23:59] <aroman> cp24eva, (You can't install two programs at once)
[23:59] <cp24eva> aroman, ah yes. lol.
[23:59] <CodeWar> botcity, windows 7 starter edition was terrible I wish hw manufacturers stop shipping and charging for it
[23:59] <mosty> cradam, try pasting it in google first, then ask here if you can't find anything
[23:59] <cp24eva> aroman, i'm doing an "apply change" and it's been taking a while.
[23:59] <cradam> ok will get it, it dont say much though
[23:59] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: then I guess a bash or ruby script?
[23:59] <PsPhaKeR_> For some reason, my panel on top where my user name i displayed is shown twice, for example... if my user name was bam,it would say X bam bam
[23:59] <Xoro> hi guys
[23:59] <greenhat_> I have 2 NIC I've configured interfaces file and restart network. Server can access Internet fine but the computers connected to the internal NIC are using strange ips ? Dhcp not working for local net? Pls help.
[23:59] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: wow...lol....that is painfully obvious, and i didnt even think that is the best option


[00:00]  * pleia2 waves
[00:00] <nhandler> o/
[00:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[00:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Apr 20 00:00:44 2012 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[00:01] <pleia2> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for April 19th. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[00:01] <pleia2> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[00:01] <pleia2> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[00:01] <pleia2> ach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[00:02] <pleia2> s/ach/Each
[00:02] <pleia2> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[00:02] <pleia2> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[00:02] <pleia2> #voters nhandler Pendulum cyphermox dinda pleia2
[00:02] <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum cyphermox dinda nhandler pleia2
[00:02] <pleia2> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[00:02] <pleia2> caravena, are you here?
[00:03] <pleia2> fitoschido, are you here?
[00:04] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: how about you? :)
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> Meh, I might be
[00:04] <pleia2> #topic MrChrisDruif membership
[00:04] <pleia2> introduce away!
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, for who doesn't know me I'm Chris Druif and I'm mainly involved with Lubuntu
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif> My wiki page is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif> You can find all my contact info on there, including everything I don't really use like launchpad and ubuntuforums
[00:06] <MrChrisDruif> I've been the Wiki/Docs Coordinator of Lubuntu since January and today I've actually become a member of the Ubuntu Wiki Docs Editors
[00:07] <MrChrisDruif> Please feel free to ask any questions
[00:07] <pleia2> some of your testimonial writers did a better job of covering all the work you do than your wiki page does
[00:07] <MrChrisDruif> Oh, I also help out on Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter by updating the links for the flavor meetings and sometimes summaries
[00:07] <pleia2> there you go
[00:08] <MrChrisDruif> I'm not one to boast
[00:08] <pleia2> several testimonials from beginners team too
[00:08] <dinda> looks like you have a good history of work in the community - and tons of testimonials
[00:08] <Unit193> I'm also here to support him.
[00:08] <pleia2> thanks Unit193
[00:09] <MrChrisDruif> I think if you look at the raw version /Testimonials you'll see almost every page I've edited ^_^
[00:09] <MrChrisDruif> s//Testimonials//Contributions
[00:09] <pleia2> ah, good
[00:10] <MrChrisDruif> Any questions? Please ask if I forgot to mention anything
[00:10] <pleia2> always nice to see a future goals section, that's for including it
[00:11] <pleia2> s/that's/thanks
[00:11] <dinda> MrChrisDruif: you just made me very curious about Lubuntu!
[00:12] <MrChrisDruif> We've got a cool channel with people far more knowledgeable about Lubuntu then me on #lubuntu-offtopic and for support go to #lubuntu
[00:13] <MrChrisDruif> Including but not limited to Unit193 ^_^
[00:13] <pleia2> #vote MrChrisDruif Membership
[00:13] <meetingology> Please vote on: MrChrisDruif Membership
[00:13] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[00:13] <pleia2> +1
[00:13] <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
[00:13] <cyphermox> +1
[00:13] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[00:13] <dinda> +1
[00:13] <meetingology> +1 received from dinda
[00:13] <Pendulum> +1
[00:13] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[00:13] <nhandler> +1
[00:13] <meetingology> +1 received from nhandler
[00:13] <pleia2> #endvote
[00:13] <meetingology> Voting ended on: MrChrisDruif Membership
[00:13] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[00:13] <meetingology> Motion carried
[00:13] <pleia2> congrats and welcome MrChrisDruif :)
[00:14] <nhandler> Congratulations MrChrisDruif !
[00:14] <MrChrisDruif> O_O
[00:14] <MrChrisDruif> Yay! Thanks everyone!
[00:14] <Unit193> Congrats!
[00:14] <dinda> congratulations!  and keep up the great work!
[00:14] <cyrex> Congratz!!
[00:14] <Pendulum> MrChrisDruif: Congrats and welcome!
[00:14] <pleia2> #topic Unit193 Membership
[00:14] <Unit193> Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unit193 LP: http://launchpad.net/~unit193
[00:14] <Unit193> Howdy! My name is Unit 193, I'm from Ohio and part of the Ohio LoCo. Our city has a small ReLoCo that has had events I have gone to, I haven't been able to make any of the major statewide events as they have either been the wrong day, or I couldn't get there, but I really hope to make OLF this year.
[00:14] <MrChrisDruif> I'm rooting for ya Unit193 !!
[00:14] <Unit193> Unlike the person last month, my wiki seems to be stuck on -q mode as I am not a wiki person. :P  I am involved with the Lubuntu and Xubuntu projects, randomly help the news team if they really need it, and you can find me in random other places on and off Freenode.
[00:15] <Unit193> (Had to prewrite or I'd go blank)
[00:15] <pleia2> caravena: thanks for joining us, we'll get to your application next :)
[00:16] <cyphermox> Unit193: no problem, a lot of this meeting is scripted ;)
[00:16] <knome> as i state in the wiki, Unit193 gets +1 from me
[00:16] <caravena> pleia2 ok
[00:17] <MrChrisDruif> Same here
[00:17] <Unit193> Thanks.
[00:17]  * SergioMeneses takes seat
[00:17] <pleia2> thanks knome and MrChrisDruif
[00:17] <nhandler> Unit193: Any plans to get involved with that ISO adoption project?
[00:17] <Unit193> Does it go by any other name?
[00:18] <Unit193> I may not have heard of it, so I'd have to check it out.
[00:18] <nhandler> Unit193: Let me find a link (I admit, I'm not the most familiar)
[00:18] <pleia2> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/04/would-you-adopt-iso.html
[00:19] <pleia2> it's a more formal adoption of the iso tests you already do, to be responsible for a particular set of tests for an iso getting finished
[00:19] <knome> if those iso's cover xubuntu iso's, i will +1 for Unit193 doing that too ;)
[00:19] <nhandler> Yep, that was it. Thanks pleia2
[00:19] <pleia2> it does!
[00:19] <knome> (otherwise, only +.99)
[00:19] <pleia2> hehe
[00:19] <Unit193> Hardware is a bit limited, and I can't hit any 64bit, but I can hit 32.
[00:20] <nhandler> I'm sure many people would appreciate the help
[00:20] <knome> yes, definitely, especially if it is on the derivative images (whether that was xubuntu or lubuntu or any other)
[00:21] <Unit193> I'd love to help with that, but it'd be hard commiting to it as the computer that has the power to test the best is a shared computer, so I'd have to check. (Also,  affew real life events I have to work with)
[00:22] <pleia2> another thank you for including future info so we don't need to ask :)
[00:22] <pleia2> #vote Unit193 Membership
[00:22] <meetingology> Please vote on: Unit193 Membership
[00:22] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[00:22] <Unit193> Heh, I tried, but it may be a touch outdated.
[00:22] <pleia2> +1
[00:22] <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
[00:22] <nhandler> +1
[00:22] <meetingology> +1 received from nhandler
[00:22] <caravena> I work with Ubuntu 12.04 developed, I'm chilean and talk spanih default
[00:22] <cyphermox> +1
[00:22] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[00:22] <dinda> +1
[00:22] <meetingology> +1 received from dinda
[00:22] <pleia2> Pendulum?
[00:23] <MrChrisDruif> caravena; just a minute, just wait for the results
[00:23] <caravena> ok sorry
[00:24] <pleia2> looks like we may have lost her for the moment, and that's quorum so
[00:24] <pleia2> #endvote
[00:24] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Unit193 Membership
[00:24] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[00:24] <meetingology> Motion carried
[00:24] <pleia2> congrats, welcome Unit193! :)
[00:24] <knome> congrats Unit193! (and i'm off to bed... o/ see you)
[00:24] <Unit193> Thanks!
[00:24] <nhandler> Congratulations Unit193 !
[00:24] <pleia2> #topic caravena Membership
[00:25] <caravena> I'm chilean
[00:25] <MrChrisDruif> Congratulations buddy!!
[00:26] <caravena> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CristianAravena
[00:26] <cyrex> Congratz Unit193
[00:26] <caravena> https://launchpad.net/~caravena
[00:26] <Unit193> Thanks, cyphermox
[00:26] <Unit193> Err.
[00:27] <cyphermox> yay for tab completion ;)
[00:27] <caravena> I work in ubuntu-cl
[00:27] <caravena> in marketing
[00:28] <caravena> Pedro Villavicencio help to my
[00:28] <pleia2> caravena: I'm a little confused, is this you too? https://launchpad.net/~cristianvirtual (they are listed as the ubuntu-cl contact)
[00:28] <caravena> I'm working now in flisol -> http://guliqq.unap.cl
[00:29] <caravena> pleia2, no, I'm "caravena"
[00:29] <caravena> Cristian Aravena
[00:29] <pleia2> caravena: your wiki page says you're the LoCo Contact, but you are not
[00:30] <caravena> oummm sorry
[00:30] <caravena> bug
[00:30] <caravena> :S
[00:31] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, ubuntu-cl team has a council
[00:32] <caravena> Thanks SergioMeneses
[00:32] <pleia2> SergioMeneses: right, I'm going by this: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-cl
[00:32] <pleia2> he's not on that either
[00:33] <pleia2> caravena: do you think you could update your wiki with accurate details, maybe put a bit more information about what you do in the LoCo?
[00:33] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, you're rigth
[00:35] <caravena> then I going to update my wiki page
[00:35] <pleia2> caravena: also, get some more testimonials, from people you work with in the chilean loco :)
[00:35] <caravena> pleia2, ok
[00:37] <cyphermox> cyrex: you there?
[00:37] <cyrex> yes
[00:38] <cyrex> I am here cyphermox
[00:38] <pleia2> #topic cyrex Membership
[00:38] <cyphermox> alright :)
[00:38] <cyrex> hello
[00:38] <cyrex> Should I start now?
[00:39] <cyrex> Sorry guys a LITTLE nervous
[00:39] <pleia2> yes, go ahead
[00:39] <cyrex> I am Luis Alvarado from Venezuela. Have been an active Ubuntu user since 5.04. Started helping other users with Linux and Ubuntu since 2006-2007, at least for user from Windows. Have taught several Linux classes that focus on Ubuntu, the server side and desktop side. Also participated in an international event called FLISOL (Will participate this year again). My time right now is spend in askubuntu helping out, teaching/promoting about Ubuntu Linux in
[00:39] <cyrex>  Venezuela and I am going to start my webpage ubuntuve.com from scratch which will be about video tutorials about Ubuntu and programming in Linux (Spanish mostly).
[00:39] <cyrex> https://launchpad.net/~luisalvaradox (Empty for the time being. Got a couple of tools I want to add this year)
[00:39] <cyrex> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/luisalvarado
[00:39] <cyrex> This is a link to askubuntu where I do some helping: http://askubuntu.com/users/7035/
[00:40] <cyrex> And here is a link to the ranking so it might help or something: http://askubuntu.com/users?tab=reputation&filter=all
[00:40] <pleia2> always nice to meet other folks who are putting Ubuntu into schools :)
[00:40] <pleia2> wow, you've been using askubuntu for a long time!
[00:40] <MrChrisDruif> That's true
[00:41] <cyrex> yes. About a year
[00:41] <pleia2> cyrex: is teaching Venezuelan Users about Ubuntu something separate from your job?
[00:42] <cyrex> I do it in the job and separate
[00:42] <pleia2> great
[00:42] <cyrex> for example, when talking about networking, computer assembly or programming I always talk to them about linux and ubuntu
[00:42] <cyrex> so many of them eventually take the linux course which I teach using ubuntu
[00:43] <cyrex> that is in the job, outside the job and help out friends and anybody interested in using a real operating system
[00:43] <pleia2> :)
[00:43] <pleia2> really great work
[00:44] <cyrex> I have a small group in facebook with some friends that I help with this. Also have ubuntuve.com/ubuntuvenezuela.com which I will start from scratch with video tutorials of how to use ubuntu, configuration, etc.
[00:44] <nhandler> Besides the videos, any other plans/goals for the future?
[00:46] <cyrex> Well my 2012 goals in order are: Finish ubuntu tutorials on webpage, finish symfony programming and I want to start working on python so I can help with Ubuntu. Right now my plan is to create awareness of ubuntu in Venezuela and maybe a social group around it. Then try to work my way up to someday maybe work in Ubuntu as a developer.
[00:47] <dinda> aks728
[00:47] <pleia2> nice to hear :)
[00:47] <pleia2> #vote cyrex Membership
[00:47] <meetingology> Please vote on: cyrex Membership
[00:47] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[00:47] <dinda> akc, wrong keyboard
[00:47] <pleia2> +1
[00:47] <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
[00:47] <nhandler> +1
[00:47] <meetingology> +1 received from nhandler
[00:47] <dinda> +1
[00:47] <meetingology> +1 received from dinda
[00:47] <Pendulum> +1
[00:47] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[00:47] <cyphermox> +1
[00:47] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[00:47] <pleia2> #endvote
[00:47] <meetingology> Voting ended on: cyrex Membership
[00:47] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[00:47] <meetingology> Motion carried
[00:47] <pleia2> congrats and welcome cyrex!
[00:48] <MrChrisDruif> Congratulations cyrex!!
[00:48] <nhandler> Congratulations !
[00:48] <cyrex> Whohoo. Thanks guys
[00:48] <cyphermox> congrats cyrex
[00:48] <cyrex> Now let me see my next step: Take over the world. Ok got it
[00:48] <Unit193> Congrats cyrex! (got it right this time)
[00:48] <pleia2> thanks everyone :)
[00:48] <cyrex> Man I am still shaken hehe
[00:49] <nhandler> Yep. Thanks you everyone, and congratulations to the new members.
[00:49] <cyrex> ;)
[00:49] <pleia2> and before we all run off, we have three board members expiring next month, so while welcome to reapply, thanks to nhandler and dinda for their work on the board these past couple years :)
[00:50] <nhandler> :)
[00:50] <cyphermox> yup, thanks nhandler and dinda :)
[00:50] <Pendulum> pleia2: thank you for your work over the past (4?) years as well!
[00:50] <pleia2> Pendulum: indeed 4! too many :)
[00:50] <cyrex> Well thank you I am going to tell my girlfriend
[00:51] <cyrex> you all have a nice day/night
[00:51] <pleia2> you too
[00:51] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[00:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Apr 20 00:51:14 2012 UTC.
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[14:59]  * skaet waves
[15:00] <roadmr> hello!
[15:00] <skaet> :)
[15:00] <skaet> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <skaet> [TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet
[15:01] <skaet> Please remember to .. when you're done, and o/ if you want us to pause and ask questions. :)
[15:01] <skaet> Agenda can be found:
[15:01] <skaet> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-04-20
[15:01] <skaet> Individual team status links will be added to it from:
[15:01] <skaet> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/thread.html
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> We've started creating the release candidates,  and full testing has commenced.   Changes to the unseeded universe can continue to go in, but changes to seeded packages will need to be release critical ( basically blockers and not SRUable) at this point before they'll be accepted.    Please discuss on #ubuntu-release if you see any release blockers pop up during testing immediately.    Testing of the release candid
[15:01] <skaet> ates is in progress, so we'll be trying to minimize the respins.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> #ubuntu-release if questions, please.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Schedule is at:
[15:01] <skaet>  #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[15:01] <skaet> Key Upcoming Dates:
[15:01] <skaet> • 2012/04/24 - Unseeded Universe Final Freeze at 1200 UTC
[15:01] <skaet> • 2012/04/26 - Release!!!
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01]  * stgraber waves
[15:01] <skaet> Bugs committed to be fixed by the engineering teams can be found:
[15:01] <skaet> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
[15:01] <skaet> Bugs that you would like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, should be assigned to specific teams, so they can be found.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> We're also now using:  http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-release
[15:02] <skaet> to track the release.
[15:02] <skaet> Lots of late incoming status changes now that we're working with Final Freeze,  and I haven't managed to get the paste ups ready.
[15:02] <skaet> from the mail list.
[15:03] <skaet> will try to get it added before end of meeting.
[15:03] <skaet> ..
[15:04] <skaet> [TOPIC] questions/comments from the weekly status, and about the state of the release in general?
[15:05] <skaet> Please remember to .. when you're done, and o/ if you want us to pause and ask questions. :)
[15:05] <pitti> o/
[15:05] <cjwatson> o/
[15:05] <skaet> General question for all the teams:   Are there any release critical bugs that have not been brought to attention of release team?
[15:05] <pitti> bug 985862 just came in
[15:05] <pitti> fix being prepared
[15:05] <skaet> Please think on that and prepare answers...
[15:06] <pitti> (just adding to pad)
[15:06] <skaet> thanks pitti,  was that the "o/" or the answer to my question?
[15:06] <skaet> ..
[15:07] <pitti> skaet: your question, o/ still pending
[15:07] <skaet> :)
[15:07] <skaet> pitti,  go,  while folk are checking and composing then.   Thanks!
[15:07] <skaet> ..
[15:07] <pitti> so, we still have a considerably sized http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:07] <cjwatson> maas is still in the queue and I've vaguely gathered that (a) it helps with some of the outstanding component-mismatches and (b) it just needs somebody to sit down and review it all; is now still a good time for that?  I think we've dropped the ball on that one slightly as the release team
[15:07] <cjwatson> oh, sorry, misinterpreted pitti.  but I think we're asking about kind of the same thing anyway.
[15:08] <pitti> I wanted to ask the server folks if horizon is going to stay seeded, and if so, if at least the python-coverage build dep cuodl be dropped?
[15:08] <pitti> it seems non-essential
[15:08] <skaet> arosales, Daviey ^
[15:08] <pitti> cjwatson: maas is something different AFAICS
[15:08] <pitti> but also needs sorting out indeed
[15:08] <cjwatson> I can volunteer to do the review if it's still OK
[15:08] <pitti> Daviey just returned and he said he'd look at it
[15:08] <pitti> it's quite intrusive, and I didn't feel confident enough to yay/nay it
[15:09] <arosales> pitti: I believe horizon will need to stay seeded. I'll have to check on the python-coverage dep with zul and adamg
[15:09] <cjwatson> I'd certainly rather somebody who knows the code well take care of it, just as long as *somebody* does
[15:09] <cjwatson> ..
[15:09] <skaet> +1
[15:10] <skaet> pitti, arosales,  Daviey able to get to it for today's respin?  or are we looking and possibly having to require an additional one for server later?
[15:10] <skaet> ..
[15:10] <arosales> a good part of the server team is at ODS conference so we have a bit delayed in some of the work.
[15:11] <skaet> arosales,  is there anyone else around, who isn't Daviey or the author) that could knowlegably review it now?
[15:11] <skaet> ..
[15:12] <arosales> skaet: for MAAS?
[15:12] <Daviey> o/
[15:12] <cjwatson> (I've just skimmed it and don't see any problems that are obvious to me.)
[15:12] <skaet> Daviey.... :)  delighted to see you.
[15:12]  * Daviey will take MAAS and follow up with horizon stuff today.
[15:12] <Daviey> just.. not right now.
[15:12]  * skaet hugs Daviey
[15:12] <Daviey> skaet: I'm not delighted to see a computer :)
[15:13] <skaet> Daviey,  ok,  we'll hold off on the respins today until we hear from you on this.
[15:13] <skaet> thanks for that initial look cjwatson too.  :)
[15:13] <skaet> ..
[15:13]  * arosales thanks the release team for all the help with the late server landings
[15:13] <arosales> ..
[15:14] <skaet> cjwatson,  you're question again?
[15:14] <cjwatson> handled
[15:14] <skaet> coolio.
[15:14] <skaet> Daviey,  any question indicated by your 'o/'?
[15:15] <skaet> hmm..
[15:15] <pitti> . o O { suggestion: \o for hello, o/ for questions :) }
[15:15] <Daviey> no, just showing presence.. sorry
[15:15] <skaet> :)
[15:15]  * skaet likes pitti's suggestion.   Next release ;)
[15:16] <skaet> ok,  going back to round tabling from each of the teams on release critical non SRUable fixes...?
[15:16] <skaet> arosales - is there anything on your team's radar?
[15:16] <Riddell> pitti: you're mixing three different styles of ascii art there, confuses my little brain!
[15:16] <skaet> lol
[15:17] <skaet> ..
[15:17] <arosales> skaet: no release critical bugs that I am aware of.
[15:17] <skaet> thanks arosales.
[15:17] <skaet> cjwatson: ?
[15:17] <ogasawara> skaet: none here for the kernel  that I'm aware of.  issues I'm currently tracking should be getting handled in our day-0
[15:17] <ogasawara> ..
[15:17] <skaet> thanks ogasawara.  :)
[15:17] <cjwatson> everything I know of has come up in #ubuntu-release, although as I said in my status update we do need to clear outdated binaries.
[15:18] <cjwatson> I'm trawling through the relevant build failures at the moment ...
[15:18] <cjwatson> ..
[15:18] <skaet> thanks cjwatson.  :)
[15:18] <skaet> jibel:  anything showing up from the recent testing that might be suspect?
[15:18] <skaet> ..
[15:19] <skaet> roadmr or brendand:   from your team?
[15:19] <skaet> ..
[15:19] <roadmr> skaet: a bug that was subsequently fixed, so we're ok now :)
[15:20] <skaet> roadmr,  thanks.  :)
[15:20] <roadmr> skaet: it was bug 984387
[15:21] <skaet> :)  thanks for that.  ..?
[15:21] <roadmr> ..
[15:21] <skaet> :)
[15:22] <skaet> mdeslaur,  anything known as potential to from security update between now and next Wednesday?
[15:22] <skaet> ..
[15:22] <jdstrand> skaet: I'm here for mdeslaur
[15:22]  * skaet just wants to know if something is under investigation, or if the slate is pretty clear.
[15:22] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: don't you come in here :P
[15:22] <skaet> thanks jdstrand.
[15:22] <jdstrand> (he is on holiday)
[15:22] <skaet> :)
[15:22] <jdstrand> skaet: nothing is planned
[15:23] <skaet> thanks jdstrand.
[15:23] <skaet> dbarth_, anything from your team?
[15:23] <skaet> ..
[15:23]  * jibel back
[15:24] <skaet> go ahead jibel while we wait for dbarth_ ...
[15:24] <skaet> anything showing up on radar that might end up as a blocker from recent tests?
[15:24] <skaet> ..
[15:24] <jibel> so I sent the list of defects found this week with testing
[15:24] <jibel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001151.html
[15:25] <dbarth_> skaet: hi, not much apart from the last 2 fixes that didrocks added to ubuntu5
[15:25] <jibel> and found a bug with cdromupgrade from lucid
[15:25] <jibel> bug 986233
[15:25] <jibel> that might be a blocker
[15:25] <jibel> ..
[15:26] <skaet> thanks jibel.   Yes,  it needs looking at.
[15:26] <skaet> ..
[15:26] <skaet> thanks dbarth,  ..?
[15:26] <dbarth_> skaet: the rest we're targeting for an upcoming 5.12.0; the bamf issue with duplicated icons (#928912 )
[15:26] <dbarth_> ..
[15:26] <ogra_> o/
[15:26] <skaet> heh, guess not.   Thanks!
[15:26] <skaet> ogra_ go.
[15:27] <ogra_> we found an issue with the GLES patch that i fixed today ... sadly there is an unuploaded fix in the tree so i couldnt just upload compiz right away
[15:27] <ogra_> the gles fix sits in the compiz packaging tree now but i want to wait for didrocks (who is on vacation) to nod off the former fix 8else i had uploaded right now)
[15:28] <ogra_> apparenly he is back on monday though...
[15:28] <ogra_> the fix is tested and makes everything work fine now
[15:28] <ogra_> ..
[15:28] <skaet> ogra_ yeah, but given the arm build times, etc.  monday is getting pretty late.
[15:28] <skaet> pitti,  who is didrock's backup on this sort of thing?
[15:29] <pitti> there is no formal backup
[15:29] <pitti> I'd suggest to just uplaod the patch, and adjust bzr accordingly
[15:29] <pitti> i. e. push the unpublished change to the next version
[15:29] <ogra_> pitti, not possible
[15:29] <pitti> oh?
[15:29] <pitti> well, I don't know anything else :)
[15:30] <ogra_> the arch specific patch needs to sit on top of all other quilt patches sadly
[15:30] <pitti> or do you depend on the previous patch?
[15:30] <ogra_> i have to redo everything for the next quilt patch again
[15:30] <pitti> that sounds like a hell of a patch
[15:30] <cjwatson> branch from the last uploaded revision
[15:30] <ogra_> right, since i cant be sure the GLES patch doesnt accidentially touch the same files other quilt patches touch
[15:30] <cjwatson> then let whoever wants to upload the unuploaded bits worry about merging
[15:31]  * skaet nods
[15:31] <cjwatson> (if necessary)
[15:31] <ogra_> cjwatson, that still means i need to completely regenerate everything right after the next quilt patch is added
[15:31] <ogra_> it would only help until the next upload ...
[15:31] <cjwatson> you can still prepare *this* upload, which is the time-sensitive one, as I understand it
[15:31] <pitti> at this point this shoudl be offloaded to #u-devel or desktop, but why?
[15:32] <ogra_> cjwatson, yes, but for the first (likely 0 day) SRU i have to start over
[15:32] <ogra_> so it doesnt help much for the release if dider uploads to proposed next week and i have to do it again
[15:32] <ogra_> ..
[15:33] <pitti> patch dependencies and bzr handling seem very independent to me
[15:33] <cjwatson> "start over" sounds like it must be hyperbole
[15:33] <cjwatson> I'm prepared to believe you have to fiddle about to some extent with quilt
[15:33] <cjwatson> but it surely isn't a matter of completely starting from scratch
[15:33] <cjwatson> or shouldn't be
[15:34] <ogra_> well, we have two trees, the gles patch has to be a diff between these two trees ... if one quilt patch is added to the packjaging tree, linaro has to first update their stuff, then i need to redo the diff between the trees and roll that into a new quilt patch ...
[15:35] <ogra_> (thats not the time consuming part, due to the fragile nature of it we have to do testbuilds, tests etc, all in all thats half a workday of one linaro person and me)
[15:35] <ogra_> ..
[15:35]  * pitti still fails to see the connection to the unuploaded patch staged in bzr
[15:35]  * skaet thinks we need to take this discussion to #ubuntu-release  and  move on here.
[15:36] <ogra_> pitti, it touched the same files the gles patch touches, next upload with the unuploaded quilt patch makes arm builds ftbfs
[15:36] <ogra_> ..
[15:36] <cjwatson> so push and refresh
[15:36] <cjwatson> (but yes, #u-r)
[15:37] <skaet> Riddell,   any release critical issues lurking in the Kubuntu bugs?
[15:37] <Riddell> I have a good feeling there are none
[15:37] <skaet> :)
[15:38] <Riddell> there was the KDM issue slangasek was tlaking about yeseterday
[15:38] <Riddell> which was an issue with libc I think
[15:38] <Riddell> I think he fixed it but haven't verified yet
[15:38] <slangasek> mea culpa
[15:39] <Riddell> I'm away until Monday evening
[15:39] <skaet> is ScottK your backup?
[15:39] <skaet> for questions?
[15:40] <Riddell> he is a reliable chap for any breakages yes
[15:40] <skaet> Riddell,  who should we be notifying to restart the kubuntu testing, when we respin?
[15:41] <Riddell> ScottK is good to notify, he can pull the trigger on the kubuntu communnity
[15:41] <Riddell> or a !testing ping in #kubuntu-devel
[15:41] <skaet> Thanks.  :)   Will do.
[15:41]  * skaet will do both then...
[15:41] <skaet> :)
[15:42] <skaet> s/do/try?/
[15:42] <skaet> until response
[15:42] <skaet> ..
[15:42] <skaet> stgraber or highvoltage - any release critical issues lurking in the Edubuntu bugs?
[15:43] <stgraber> nope, the worst bug we had so far was wallpapers not showing up in the gnome background dialog :)
[15:43] <stgraber> and that's fixed
[15:43] <highvoltage> yay
[15:43] <skaet> :)
[15:43] <skaet> ..?
[15:43] <stgraber> so it looks pretty good so far, we have a few smaller bugs reported that I'll make sure we get fixed for 12.10 and possibly for 12.04.1
[15:43] <highvoltage> ..
[15:43] <stgraber> ..
[15:44] <skaet> sounds good.   Thanks stgraber and highvoltage.  :)
[15:44] <skaet> astraljava,  knome - any release critical issues lurking in the Xubuntu bugs?
[15:44] <astraljava> skaet: Nothing from Xubuntu as we spe*... type.
[15:45] <astraljava> Just got a hint of a weird networking issue, but can't specify yet how critical it turns out to be.
[15:45] <astraljava> I will do some further testing over the weekend.
[15:45] <astraljava> ..
[15:45] <skaet> thanks astraljava.   Ok,  will circle back with you on monday.
[15:46] <astraljava> Sounds good.
[15:46] <astraljava> ..
[15:46] <skaet> scott-work, any release critical issues lurking in the Ubuntu Studio bugs?
[15:46] <scott-work> no, it is looking good at this time :)
[15:47] <scott-work> ..
[15:47] <skaet> :)  Thanks scott-work!
[15:47] <skaet> gilir,  any release critical issues lurking in the Lubuntu bugs?
[15:47] <gilir> no blocker so far, still testing and double checking install failure the team reported
[15:48] <gilir> maybe one fix for our keyboard layout application, still need testing
[15:48] <gilir> ..
[15:48] <skaet> Thanks gilir,  ok,  please post in #ubuntu-release as soon as you know more on those.
[15:48] <skaet> ..
[15:48] <skaet> anyone I miss?
[15:49] <tumbleweed> MOTU, but I don't have any issues I know of
[15:49] <tumbleweed> laney is probably more on top of things...
[15:49] <tumbleweed> ..
[15:50] <skaet> gilir, scott-work, astraljava, highvoltage, stgraber, Riddell, ScottK - any issues with the new ReleaseNotes/* format?   can all the feature and config/install information be ready in it by monday?
[15:50] <skaet> Thanks tumbleweed.  :)
[15:51] <skaet> ..
[15:52] <stgraber> I think Edubuntu is mostly good after highvoltage's edits from yesterday. I'll have another look this weekend.
[15:52] <stgraber> ..
[15:53] <skaet> Thanks stgraber. :)
[15:53] <skaet> ..
[15:53]  * gilir likes the new format, and it should be ok on monday for us
[15:53] <gilir> ..
[15:53] <tumbleweed> I have a more general question re the releasenotes format? Are we rolling in any notes from 10.10 -> 11.10? (e.g. the toolchain changes that someone asked about on the list this week). If we are, there doesn't seem to be anywhere in the new structure for toolchain changes
[15:54] <tumbleweed> ..
[15:55] <astraljava> skaet: I believe Xubuntu will have it ready by Monday, yes.
[15:55] <astraljava> ..
[15:55] <skaet> tumbleweed,  there's the common infrastructure part to hold that sort of thing.
[15:55] <skaet> slangasek, ^^
[15:56] <skaet> (its where the upstart and kernel changes are located).
[15:56] <skaet> thanks astraljava :)
[15:56] <tumbleweed> oh, I didn't see that was shared between all the sub-pages
[15:56] <scott-work> skaet: not yet, i'm still digging through it though ;)
[15:57] <skaet> fair nuf scott-work.   ping me if you have questions please.  :)
[15:57] <slangasek> tumbleweed: ;)  I had removed the references to toolchain versions because I didn't believe it relevant for end-user-facing release notes; but I seem to be outnumbered
[15:57] <skaet> :)
[15:57] <tumbleweed> the people who complain probably won't have read the notes...
[15:59] <skaet> if its in the notes,  we have a place to point to at least when the questions come up.
[15:59] <skaet> ..
[15:59] <skaet> anyhow,  we're out of time now.
[15:59] <skaet> please bring up any remaining questions in #ubuntu-release.
[16:00] <skaet> Thank you to all of you and your teams for the excellent work that's been done so far on this release!
[16:00] <skaet> I'm very much looking forward to the release getting announced next week,  and am thinking its going to be a great foundation for our new LTS.    Well done!
[16:00] <skaet> Thank you for your participation in these weekly release meetings for Precise,  roadmr, jibel, jdstrand, ogasawara, cjwatson, arosales, fabo, pitti, dbarth_,ogra_,Riddell, stgraber, highvoltage, astraljava, scott-work, gilir, tumbleweed, Laney.    Next set will start after UDS-Q... name coming soon. ;)
[16:00] <skaet> #endmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Apr 20 16:00:38 2012 UTC.
[16:00] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-20-15.00.moin.txt
[16:00] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-20-15.00.html
[16:00] <stgraber> thanks
[16:00] <pitti> thanks skaet
[16:00] <arosales> skaet: thanks for chairing :-)
[16:00] <jibel> thanks skaet
[16:00] <astraljava> Thanks skaet, all!
[16:00] <roadmr> whee! thanks!
[16:01] <ogra_> thanks skaet


[12:45] <mamarley> ricotz: Someone let me know that nvidia-390 was missing Provides/Breaks/Replaces for libcuda-9.0-1, so I added it and uploaded again.
[18:34] <mamarley> ricotz: I also got a bug report from a user about a failure to install the 340 package on a system with Linux 4.10.  I realized I had screwed up the regex, so I have fixed that too.
[18:35] <mamarley> I had tested it with 4.14 to make sure that the 4.15 patches didn't apply, but I didn't go that far back.  I'm not the best at regexes, sorry.


[14:39] <rick_h_> damn I can't wait for those thinkpads to come out. I can't type on laptops at coffee shops with these damn touchpads.
[14:39] <rick_h_> just can't help touching it with my breath or something
[14:47] <cmaloney> Heh
[14:47] <cmaloney> I think the first one is out
[14:47] <rick_h_> orly? which?
[14:47] <cmaloney> Ars mentioned it and I noticed it in the shop
[14:48] <cmaloney> The i5 / i7 model
[14:48] <cmaloney> X1 Carbon
[14:48] <rick_h_> OH!
[14:48] <cmaloney> Thought you'd have ordered it by now. :)
[14:48] <rick_h_> jcastro: it's out already man
[14:48] <rick_h_> well I was debating the x250 vs x1 carbon
[14:48] <jcastro> yeah
[14:48] <rick_h_> I miss my docking station/etc
[14:48] <rick_h_> and 14" is kind of big
[14:49] <rick_h_> used to my 11/12/13
[14:49] <cmaloney> That's OK, they've reinvented external peripherals
[14:49] <rick_h_> but damn
[14:49]  * cmaloney is listening to Karl Bartos - 15 Minutes of Fame
[14:49]  * cmaloney loves this album
[14:50] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MARmAG9Is4s <- if you like Kraftwerk this is one of the members
[14:50] <cmaloney> (former members from 1970s-1980s era Kraftwerk)
[14:51] <rick_h_> oh hell yea, you can get the nicer resultion without touch!!!!
[14:51] <rick_h_> lenovo I <3 you
[14:51] <cmaloney> Oh that's awesome.
[14:55] <rick_h_> ordered, done
[14:55] <cmaloney> Heh
[14:55] <cmaloney> I would have piped up sooner but thought you had already ordered a crate
[14:56] <rick_h_> nope, didn't see them yet
[14:56] <rick_h_> and was going to debate the x1 vs the x250
[14:56] <rick_h_> but $#@$@# it
[14:56] <cmaloney> Well regardless I'm glad you're back to Thinkpads
[14:56] <cmaloney> though the new Dell has the screen you've been asking for
[14:56] <cmaloney> minimal bezel
[14:56] <rick_h_> yea, saw the new dell but it's not trackpoint
[14:56] <cmaloney> 13" screen in 11"
[14:57] <rick_h_> not I can have a freaking awesome high res screen + trackpoint I'll take it
[14:57] <cmaloney> Yeah, figured since the Thinkpads were "Back" it wasn't worth mentioning. :)
[14:57] <brousch__> No touch?! What is this, 2013?
[14:57] <rick_h_>  /not/now
[14:57] <rick_h_> well sitting here athe coffee shop writing a spec doc watching the text go into a dozen different places as I bump the dippy pad
[14:57] <cmaloney> brousch__: Keep your filthy mammal-digits off my screen
[14:57] <brousch__> I will. I use my own screen!
[14:59] <rick_h_> man I wish I could figure out how to use my N9 without my fingers. Every time I see the screen I have to bring out a new wipe before I can use it
[15:00] <rick_h_> 2560x1440 boom
[15:02] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Heh
[15:07] <cmaloney> It's good to have the "old" rick_h_ back
[15:07] <rick_h_> lol
[15:08] <cmaloney> Seeing you with a Dell was akin to seeing someone trying to enjoy a plate of celery
[15:11] <jcastro> rick_h_, well that settles it
[15:11] <jcastro> x250 is limited to 8gb of ram
[15:11] <rick_h_> jcastro: wtf is it?
[15:11] <rick_h_> jcastro: I mean it bugs me not since I run light weight I hardly cross 4 even with lxc work and such
[15:11] <rick_h_> but that still seems :(
[15:11] <jcastro> it's 2015
[15:11] <jcastro> 4gb is minimum
[15:12] <jcastro> I mean, I buy 8gb minimum and THEN add on another 4gb just for chrome
[15:12] <rick_h_> lol
[15:12] <jcastro> but ram prices were cheaper back then
[15:16] <DrDaemonEye> cmaloney: I thought you hung around #lj enough to know we don't *eat* celery
[15:31] <cmaloney> Heh
[15:44] <jrwren> limited to 8gb of ram... because that is what macbook air does.
[16:25]  * DrDaemonEye is limited to a calm, 4gb of ram
[18:23] <brousch__> For some reason everyone is soldering RAM on now
[18:23] <brousch__> It must save a lot of cost/size/weight vs slots
[18:28] <_stink_> or it makes you buy a whole new machine
[18:28] <_stink_> BASTARDS
[18:47] <jrwren> i think it is mostly for space saving. makes the things that much thinner and lighter.
[18:51] <rick_h_> yea, blame mobo makers for not supporting > 8gb per slot?
[18:51] <brousch__> It was really tight in my miix 2 11
[18:51]  * rick_h_ doesn't know where the limitation came from
[18:52] <brousch__> I had to remove 4 little boards to replace the msata ssd
[18:52] <cmaloney> I think Apple made it fashionable again to solder things onto the mobo
[18:52] <cmaloney> since most folks won't open up their laptop / tablet to take a peek
[18:52] <cmaloney> And they can ding you an extra $20 for the RAM upgrade
[19:02] <jrwren> only $20?
[19:03] <cmaloney> Well, however much more they charge
[21:50] <cmaloney> Well here's a nice holy shit: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/worlds-first-known-bootkit-for-os-x-can-permanently-backdoor-macs/
[21:51] <cmaloney> Though I suspect that anything that tampers with EFI / UEFI is the vector-du-jour for physical compromise.