[16:37] <Jonii_> Hey, is there any reason to make ubuntu track stuff i do?
[16:37] <edbian> msterbrewer, :)
[16:37] <edbian> Jonii_, ?  In case you're curious what you do.
[16:37] <Jonii_> It seems that ubuntu has some preinstalled tracking thing called zeitgeist
[16:37] <msterbrewer> ok how do i copy paste it
[16:37] <msterbrewer> ctrl c /v isnt working
[16:37] <edbian> msterbrewer, highlight it with the mouse, right click -> copy
[16:38] <Jonii_> msterbrewer: middle click
[16:38] <edbian> msterbrewer, or shift+ctrl+c I think
[16:38] <edbian> msterbrewer, ctrl + c is used for something else in terminal
[16:38] <Jonii_> highlight works for terminal i think
[16:38] <msterbrewer> why didnt i think of that
[16:38] <msterbrewer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/782367/
[16:38] <Sharpshooter> hai guys ! Just now I installed Kde On ubuntu 11.10 I like the Whole style but the Gtk  theme is like the old W!N 95 style how to change that !
[16:38] <edbian> msterbrewer, :P
[16:38] <edbian> msterbrewer, reading...
[16:39] <MerryResistance> Sharpshooter:  that'd be in some kde settings somewhere... i'm not sure where unfortunately
[16:39] <edbian> msterbrewer, You have a bcm4311 :)
[16:39] <MerryResistance> Sharpshooter:  and its more like a themeless-KDE thing ;P
[16:39] <edbian> msterbrewer, I have that card!
[16:39] <robin0800> Sharpshooter: try # kubuntu channel
[16:39] <MerryResistance> not necessarily Win95
[16:39] <edbian> msterbrewer, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:39] <msterbrewer> type that into the thingy
[16:39] <Sharpshooter> robin0800, ok
[16:39] <msterbrewer> the command promp
[16:40] <edbian> msterbrewer, into the terminal (command prompt) yes
[16:40] <ThePendulum> Can anyone explain why games for Linux are generally a few years behind considering graphics and such?
[16:40] <edbian> msterbrewer, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:40] <Jonii_> Anyway edbian, I mean, is it safe? I don't think its a good idea to just collect data about my habits if theres no reason to do such tracking
[16:40] <MerryResistance> ThePendulum:  ask the game devs, not the OS channels ;P
[16:40] <msterbrewer> it still runnign the first thing
[16:40] <edbian> ThePendulum, because there aren't major companies spending time on it
[16:40] <MerryResistance> and that
[16:40] <edbian> Jonii_, just uninstall it then :)
[16:41] <ThePendulum> MerryResistance: Any good channels to ask this? :P
[16:41] <edbian> msterbrewer, sure, take your time
[16:41] <Jonii_> What and how?
[16:41] <edbian> msterbrewer, those two commands install firmware and the b43 driver to run your card
[16:41] <msterbrewer> unable to locate it
[16:41] <msterbrewer> that what the second one said
[16:41] <edbian> ugh, click the ubuntu icon (top icon in the unity bar)
[16:41] <msterbrewer> oh wait
[16:41] <MerryResistance> ThePendulum:  not that i know of, since each game developer is in charge of what graphics they use.
[16:41] <msterbrewer> typo
[16:41] <edbian> msterbrewer, typo?
[16:41] <Jonii_> zeitgeist? is it safe to remove? Does anything bad happen if i do? Does ubuntu stop following me if i remove that?
[16:42] <msterbrewer> wore firmwar
[16:42] <msterbrewer> wrote
[16:42] <ThePendulum> MerryResistance: I was just wondering hehe.  Since I'm using Ubuntu, I'm afraid I have to disappoint them lol
[16:42] <edbian> firmwar   hahaha
[16:43] <edbian> msterbrewer, installing?
[16:44] <msterbrewer> nope
[16:44] <msterbrewer> still giving me errores
[16:44] <edbian> msterbrewer, what are the errors?
[16:44] <msterbrewer> the first part worked
[16:44] <edbian> msterbrewer, ok, (good)
[16:44] <msterbrewer> install: missing destination file operand after `firmware-b43-installer' Try `install --help' for more information.
[16:45] <edbian> msterbrewer, what command did you run that made it say that?
[16:45] <msterbrewer> hoshia@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt_get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:45] <edbian> msterbrewer, it's sudo apt-get install ...
[16:45] <edbian> msterbrewer, it's a dash, not an underscore
[16:45] <msterbrewer> ah
[16:45] <edbian> hoshia ;)
[16:45] <msterbrewer> now its working
[16:46] <msterbrewer> whell installing
[16:46] <edbian> msterbrewer, make sure you did that correctly on the first command: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:46] <edbian> msterbrewer, good :)
[16:46] <kasii> hi all
[16:46] <msterbrewer> hoshia@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt_get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:46] <msterbrewer> oops
[16:46] <edbian> msterbrewer, dork
[16:46] <kasii> meerrryyy xmasss
[16:46] <edbian> :)
[16:46] <msterbrewer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:47] <msterbrewer> dont think its supposed to say that
[16:47] <edbian> msterbrewer, yeah probs not.  Can you pastebin all this stuff in the terminal?  paste.ubuntu.com
[16:47] <edbian> msterbrewer, I wanna make sure it installed correctly
[16:47] <edbian> msterbrewer, get the last 50 or so lines
[16:48] <msterbrewer> k
[16:48] <edbian> msterbrewer, thanks
[16:48]  * edbian misses mansanto
[16:48] <speefak> hello
[16:48] <edbian> speedxcore, hi
[16:48] <speefak> merry christmas @ll
[16:48] <edbian> speefak, hi
[16:49] <msterbrewer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/782384/
[16:49] <speefak> does anyone know how i can get the moduleinfo which is loaded by the system, i got the hardwareinfo but i dont know which module is connecte with it
[16:50] <edbian> msterbrewer, you're being silly:  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:50] <oCean> speefak: lspci -k  shows kernel module in use,  modinfo <modulename>  to get more info about said module
[16:50] <speefak> i have to blacklist a wlan module becouse ists not working fine,
[16:50] <speefak> i dont knowe the module name that the problem
[16:50] <edbian> msterbrewer, the last command you ran was missing the package name after 'install'
[16:50] <edbian> speefak, lspci -k  shows you which is using what modules
[16:51] <speefak> right i see
[16:51] <msterbrewer> ok i copy pasted that
[16:51] <edbian> msterbrewer, ok...
[16:51] <msterbrewer> why was i typingit
[16:51] <speefak> thaks 4 info i try to solve the porblem now ;)
[16:51] <edbian> msterbrewer, good question
[16:51] <msterbrewer> *bangs head
[16:52] <msterbrewer> it did somethign really long with alot of extracting
[16:52] <edbian> msterbrewer, yes (that is good)
[16:52] <msterbrewer> ok now what
[16:52] <edbian> msterbrewer, sudo modprobe b43
[16:52] <edbian> msterbrewer, this command tells the kernel 'hey, use this driver'
[16:52] <robin0800> msterbrewer: you typed = instead of -
[16:52] <edbian> robin0800, already fixed that issue
[16:53] <edbian> msterbrewer, and now the wifi card should be working
[16:53] <msterbrewer> now doing anything
[16:53] <msterbrewer> not
[16:53] <edbian> msterbrewer, yeah, that command just returns
[16:53] <edbian> msterbrewer, no news = good news
[16:53] <msterbrewer> oh wait
[16:53] <msterbrewer> thank you
[16:53] <edbian> msterbrewer, hahah :)
[16:53] <edbian> sure
[16:53] <msterbrewer> wifi turned on
[16:53] <edbian> msterbrewer, yeah I gathered :)
[16:54] <edbian> msterbrewer, reboot to make sure it is still working (it should be)
[16:54] <msterbrewer> sec
[16:54] <msterbrewer> first trying to connect to wifi
[16:54] <edbian> msterbrewer, ok
[16:57] <cloudgeek> E: Package 'libopenssl-ruby1.9' has
[16:57] <cloudgeek> help
[16:58] <cloudgeek> not able install ruby problem openssl
[16:58] <cloudgeek> can help with that
[16:58] <jery_> hello i have a question. if i make changes to the system in gconf-editor does it only affect my username or the whole system in general. for example if i tweak the sys so it doesn't display mounted images on the desktop, will this happen to other users, or just me?
[16:58] <cloudgeek> when  i try to install all this it tell not locating
[16:58] <cloudgeek> E: Package 'libopenssl-ruby1.9' has
[16:58] <cloudgeek> sudo apt-get install ruby1.9-dev libsqlite3-dev rdoc1.9 libopenssl-ruby1.9 giggle
[16:58] <edbian> jery_, that is user specific
[16:59] <oCean> cloudgeek: ubuntu 11.10? There's  libopenssl-ruby1.8  and libopenssl-ruby1.9.1
[16:59] <edbian> jery_, rule of thumb: if you don't have to put in your password, it affects only you
[16:59] <cloudgeek> oCean:11.10
[16:59] <jery_> edbian - yeah i thought so. is there any way to sudo it?
[16:59] <edbian> jery_, not that I know off
[16:59] <pangolin> cloudgeek: so you got tha package name wrong, your missing a .1
[16:59] <oCean> cloudgeek: then there's those 2 packages libopenssl-ruby1.8  and libopenssl-ruby1.9.1
[17:00] <pangolin> the*
[17:00] <jery_> edbian - ok thanks mate
[17:00] <gizmobay>  can you forward the pulse audio to the remote guest using vpn??
[17:00] <cloudgeek> oCean: can you give all apt-get required for ruby together
[17:00] <pangolin> cloudgeek: sudo apt-get install ruby1.9-dev libsqlite3-dev rdoc1.9 libopenssl-ruby1.9.1
[17:01] <cloudgeek> pangolin: thanks
[17:01] <cloudgeek> pangolin:giving error
[17:01] <cloudgeek> pangolin: i am pasting wait
[17:02] <cloudgeek> pangolin:http://pastie.org/3071497
[17:03] <cloudgeek> pangolin: oCean: :( why ruby making problem with me
[17:03] <pangolin> cloudgeek: sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.1-dev libsqlite3-dev rdoc1.9 libopenssl-ruby1.9.1
[17:04] <oCean> cloudgeek: don't give up that easily :)
[17:04] <edbian> cloudgeek, ruby does not like you
[17:04] <matrixiumn> hello
[17:05] <cloudgeek> oCean: yep right , i working on it from last 4 hour , but i never till it installed finally
[17:05] <pangolin> cloudgeek: reading the error message and trying to figure out what it is telling you is important. You were missing the .
[17:05] <pangolin> err .1
[17:05] <cloudgeek> edbian: yep you ,right , but santa like ruby , he give me a gift , so learn ruby
[17:06] <edbian> cloudgeek, uhhh, thank you!
[17:06] <cloudgeek> pangolin: now it works
[17:06] <edbian> ?
[17:06] <pangolin> cloudgeek: happy I was able to help
[17:06] <cloudgeek> edbian:yeah
[17:06] <cloudgeek> oCean:pangolin: it install let me check version
[17:07] <cloudgeek> Pangolin: it installed , but still it showing version lace
[17:07] <cloudgeek> root@cloud:~# ruby -v
[17:07] <cloudgeek> ruby 1.8.7 (2011-06-30 patchlevel 352) [x86_64-linux]
[17:07] <MrKeuner> hi all, looking for a media pc that is rather low power hungry. GNU/Linux compatibility is number one priority, and recommendations on hardware or hardware companies?
[17:07] <msterbrewer> wi fi turned off after reboot
[17:07] <edbian> msterbrewer, awww :(
[17:08] <msterbrewer> yup
[17:08] <edbian> msterbrewer, can you pastebin sudo lspci -k for me ?  paste.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <msterbrewer> how do i open kernal thingy again
[17:08] <theadmin> MrKeuner: How about ##hardware ?
[17:09] <edbian> msterbrewer, the terminal,   ubuntu icon -> search terminal
[17:09] <cloudgeek> edbain: ubuntu  11.10 server , not catching my external 2TB WD hardisk
[17:09] <MrKeuner> theadmin, those guys are not much free software loving
[17:09] <edbian> cloudgeek, stop tossing it around
[17:09] <theadmin> MrKeuner: Oh... Odd, they should leave freenode then :D
[17:09] <cloudgeek> msterbrewer: use crtl+alt+t = terminal
[17:09] <msterbrewer> got it
[17:10] <MrKeuner> theadmin, i don't care if they like mac but I then I don't need their help
[17:10] <cloudgeek> edbian: i didn't get
[17:10] <msterbrewer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/782414/
[17:10] <edbian> cloudgeek, neither did I
[17:10] <cloudgeek> edbain:okay
[17:11] <edbian> msterbrewer, sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:11] <msterbrewer> k
[17:12] <msterbrewer> say yes to it?
[17:12] <ja5kier> anyone knows the solution for dual working headhphones together with speakers using VT1708S soundcard?
[17:12] <edbian> msterbrewer, yeah
[17:12] <cloudgeek> again it giving me same error when i install ruby 1.9.2 using rvm
[17:12] <msterbrewer> i had a funny thing happen whe n i installed linux
[17:12] <edbian> msterbrewer, what is that?
[17:12] <msterbrewer> my speakers started working
[17:12] <edbian> msterbrewer, ha, how funny
[17:13] <msterbrewer> they hadnet worked for 2 years on windows
[17:13] <e01> merry christmas all
[17:13] <edbian> :)
[17:13] <speefak> hm blacklisting does go right
[17:13] <msterbrewer> ok done now what
[17:13] <edbian> msterbrewer, sudo modprobe b43
[17:13] <edbian> msterbrewer, which should turn wifi on again
[17:13] <edbian> msterbrewer, and then restart
[17:14] <msterbrewer> ok restarting
[17:14] <e01> can somebody tell me how to connect my ubuntu to windows ad hoc
[17:14] <msterbrewer> random question
[17:14] <msterbrewer> why is there no restart option on top right
[17:14] <edbian> msterbrewer, do shut down, then you can restart
[17:14] <msterbrewer> yeah i know
[17:15] <msterbrewer> but why is ther eno restart
[17:15] <edbian> msterbrewer, yeah IDK
[17:15] <speefak> when the out of lsmod -k is : Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:15] <speefak> 	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[17:15] <speefak> 	Kernel modules: ssb
[17:15] <speefak>  what have write into the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:15] <edbian> msterbrewer, if you click shutdown in that menu the dialog that comes up has a restart button on the left
[17:15] <FloodBot1> speefak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <edbian> speefak, is wifi not working?
[17:15] <speefak> when the output of lspci is :
[17:16] <edbian> speefak, whoa
[17:16] <edbian> don't you copy & paste that!
[17:16] <edbian> not in here sir!
[17:16] <edbian> !pastebin
[17:16] <speefak> ed1703, wifi is working i got 2 devices in my netboak an have to blacklist one of the because i got a lot of diconnects
[17:16] <speefak> so i get the info about the hardware by using the lspci -k command
[17:17] <edbian> speefak, you do not blacklist a device, you blacklist a driver
[17:17] <edbian> speefak, why not just use the device that works?
[17:17] <Guest35869> this bot net
[17:17] <speefak> the module is : Kernel driver in use : b43-pci-brige /// Kernel modules ssb
[17:17] <edbian> speefak, that's fine b43 is the correct driver for this card
[17:17] <speefak> because the network manager use the 2 devices and i got disconnects when usig ist, driver isnt working fine
[17:17] <edbian> msterbrewer, how goes it?
[17:17] <Guest35869> edbian
[17:17] <Guest35869> heya
[17:18] <edbian> Guest35869, hi
[17:18] <Guest35869> hi
[17:18] <Guest35869> this bot net
[17:18] <speefak> the card has a lot of hardware versions an the problem is know, so i have to deactive it
[17:18] <edbian> Guest35869, no, this IRC channel
[17:18] <resno> ive looked around and cant find the answer, how do i put ubuntu into safe mode?
[17:18] <Guest35869> omg
[17:18] <resno> f4 / f8?
[17:18] <speefak> ed1703, right blacklist the drive ;)
[17:18] <edbian> speefak, turn it off by making an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:18] <Guest35869> 1422 user how
[17:19] <oCean> Guest35869: do you have an #ubuntu support question?
[17:19] <edbian> Guest35869, they join one at a time until there are 1421
[17:19] <Guest35869> ok
[17:19] <edbian> Guest35869, it all starts with a man named 'Mark Shuttleworth'
[17:19] <Zeraphin> im new to ubuntu. and this may sound stupid but how do i review/edit my xong.conf file?
[17:20] <speefak> edbian, hey right i dont think about ist, but thats the quik an dirty solution
[17:20] <Guest35869> edbian i need channel 4 games
[17:20] <Guest35869> uno
[17:20] <edbian> Zeraphin, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:20] <Guest35869> trivia
[17:20] <Guest35869> which channel
[17:20] <FloodBot1> Guest35869: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <Zeraphin> @edbian thanks!
[17:20] <edbian> Zeraphin, but that file does not exist by default :)
[17:20] <oCean> !alis | Guest35869 use the alis service to find channel. Ask for further uspport in #freenode channel, not here
[17:21] <msterbrewer> just wanted to say thank you
[17:21] <msterbrewer> wirless is up and running
[17:21] <edbian> msterbrewer, everything is working?
[17:21] <edbian> msterbrewer, you can reboot?
[17:21] <msterbrewer> yup
[17:21]  * oCean hands edbian a Christmas candy cane
[17:21] <msterbrewer> and yup
[17:21] <edbian> msterbrewer, awesome :)
[17:21] <Zeraphin> well. I've been trying to get dual monitors working with 11.10 and it says that I need to edit the xong.conf file.
[17:21] <msterbrewer> what was the problem
[17:21]  * edbian thanks Jesus first and foremost for making this possible
[17:21] <resno> ive looked around and cant find the answer, how do i put ubuntu into terminal (safe mode) mode? f4 / f8? or some other button combo?
[17:21] <msterbrewer> dell being annoying?
[17:21] <edbian> msterbrewer, well, the driver that works best with that card is not 100% open source
[17:22] <edbian> msterbrewer, (b43)
[17:22] <edbian> msterbrewer, the driver that was installed by default is 100% open source but does not work well.  We had to install b43 and remove wl (the default one)
[17:22] <edbian> msterbrewer, although dell can be very annoying
[17:22] <msterbrewer> thanks anyways
[17:23] <edbian> msterbrewer, Took me about 9 months to learn all of this by trial and error and reading web pages
[17:23] <msterbrewer> being tethered to a router is annoying
[17:23] <edbian> msterbrewer, sure :)  glad I could help
[17:23] <edbian> msterbrewer, indeed
[17:23] <msterbrewer> i read them counld make heads or tails of them
[17:23] <edbian> msterbrewer, yes, it takes a long time, especially because they are not distro specific most of the time
[17:24] <edbian> somebody has a macbook
[17:27] <resno> my machine is booting and i cant get it to do anything else. (installed new video card) any help / ideas?
[17:27] <edbian> resno, it's boots and then it freezes?  or it never finishes booting?
[17:27] <edbian> resno, I am assuming you can't log in?
[17:28] <resno> edbian: it starts booting then freezes.
[17:28] <kindunkind> y
[17:29] <edbian> resno, what card is it?
[17:29] <edbian> resno, reboot, press shift early during boot, choose 'recovery mode'
[17:29] <resno> edbian: shift!
[17:29] <resno> ahh.
[17:29] <resno> one sec
[17:29] <edbian> resno, shift
[17:29] <edbian> :)
[17:30] <resno> i was trying f4 and f8
[17:30] <edbian> silly resno
[17:31] <Jay_Levitt> What's a sexy alternative to cron that will let me have the same config file run different tasks depending on hostname, environment variables, etc. and in a more readable format?
[17:32] <resno> edbian: ah, that worked, and i can fix it from here. thanks :)
[17:33] <edbian> resno, sure, have fun yo
[17:33] <Hilikus> hey guys
[17:34] <edbian> Hilikus, hello
[17:34] <Hilikus> can i watch blueray movies in linux if i have a BR drive?
[17:34] <SunTsu> Jay_Levitt: I don't know one, unfortunately, if you find something like this, please let me know. Maybe puppet can help you, but that's a more general approach
[17:34] <edbian> Hilikus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[17:35] <Hilikus> thanks ed1703
[17:35] <Hilikus> edbian:
[17:35] <jacob-pc> I get boot error "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios" when trying to boot ubuntu after installing opensuse on seperate disk, ehich overwrote the grub2 on my primary disk to include  opensuse (on the seperate disk) i do not really want to write a /boot partition earlier in the disk can i restore the old grub and be able to boot ubuntu
[17:35] <Jay_Levitt> SunTsu: Yeah, checked out puppet and chef, but they're way way overkill for a small startup with 4-5 servers.  I guess I could have everyone's crontab execute all the tasks, but have the tasks run a cron_runner script that's a no-op on the "wrong" machine
[17:36] <edbian> jacob-pc, boot a live CD, run sudo grub-install /dev/sd<letter>
[17:36] <jacob-pc> :edbian i have windows also on the disk, will the grub have windows as an option
[17:37] <edbian> jacob-pc, I'm not really sure what it will do
[17:37] <SunTsu> Jay_Levitt: yeah, that would work, or you could replace crontab with some script that wraps around some version management setup with a central server hosting all those crontabs
[17:37] <edbian> jacob-pc, I think it will do everything auto-magically
[17:39]  * edbian is bored
[17:41] <Jay_Levitt> Looks like upstart planned to do "temporal events" but that part is still vaporware
[17:47] <eNry92> Hi guys
[17:47] <edbian> eNry92, hi
[17:48] <ptaylor> Question .. why does Ubuntu Desktop have default iptables rules that does not apply to the box? Nor does the IPs match ?
[17:48] <edbian> ptaylor, my iptables has 0 rules
[17:49] <edbian> ptaylor, ufw might have set some for you?
[17:49] <ptaylor> edbian: ufw is not enabled
[17:49] <edbian> ptaylor, then IDK why you have iptables rules
[17:49] <ptaylor> edbian: what version are you on?
[17:49] <edbian> 11.10
[17:50] <edbian> Whenever I launch terminal it is not full screen.  How can I make it launch full screen??
[17:51] <SunTsu> ptaylor: I'd try grepping after that stuff in /etc
[17:51] <SunTsu> ptaylor: my box exactly has zero iptables rules, just like edbian
[17:51] <SunTsu> edbian's
[17:51] <edbian> iptables buddies!
[17:51] <ptaylor> Thanks - i figured it out :)
[17:52] <SunTsu> ptaylor: then please enlighten us
[17:52] <ptaylor> I think the KVM package added some rules to allow the interface to communicate with the main interface. Virbr0 and eth0 since im using bridge
[17:54] <edbian> ptaylor, sounds plausible
[17:57] <MrKeuner> hi all, looking for a media pc that is rather low power hungry. GNU/Linux compatibility is number one priority, and recommendations on hardware or hardware companies?
[17:57] <bignono1> cant boot 10.04 , i get 22 error no such partition
[17:58] <SunTsu> MrKeuner: I don't see how that is ubuntu support
[17:58] <Jay_Levitt> SunTsu: Clockwork looks nice, requires a job queueing system though: https://github.com/adamwiggins/clockwork Or you can use whenever to generate per-system crontabs: https://github.com/javan/whenever.  But thanks for the info, though
[18:00] <Jay_Levitt> hehe :)
[18:01] <ptaylor> what's wrong with using Cron? i don't see the advantage using clockwork or maybe I misread
[18:02] <OerHeks> MrKeuner, check http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[18:02] <edbian> ptaylor, it isn't sexy enough for him
[18:02] <MrKeuner> OerHeks, thanks, but already have been there
[18:05] <bignono1> cant boot 10.04
[18:05] <bignono1> 22 errormessage
[18:05] <ptaylor> edbian: i c. Damn I guess we need to come up with prettier solutions.
[18:05] <maria87> hello guys, is it possible to transfer my sms from an iphone to ubuntu?
[18:05] <edbian> :)
[18:05] <bignono1> if no one reply i will go win 95
[18:06] <edbian> cya
[18:06] <bignono1> or dos even
[18:07] <bignono1> ok you asked for it , am going win 3.11
[18:07] <OerHeks> 22 errors are a lot, what do they say bignono1
[18:07] <bignono1> no such partition
[18:07] <MrKeuner> OerHeks, aleutia is cool actually but kind of expensive, I could go with slightly higher carbon footprint for a cheaper product
[18:08] <farrukhjon> hi all help how play *.m4a file with standart player ?
[18:08] <bignono1> buntu is the only os on that partition
[18:09] <bignono1> all other os's are ok , they are 4 linux distro all ok , only ubuntu not booting
[18:11] <OerHeks> bignono1, 4 partitions with linux ? 4 primairy is the max
[18:12] <newser> hello I am having problems trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10. When I use the update manager it freezes and nothing happens. doing it from terminal does nothing as well. Is there anything that I can do? I think I added some sources  that are not updating. How can I remove them? Is there something to fix all the sources?
[18:13] <pangolin> newser: you can't go from 10.04 to 11.10 directly
[18:13] <pangolin> !upgrade | newser
[18:13] <bignono1> 3 partitions , one for xp , one for linux's and one ubuntu
[18:13] <joe_> hello
[18:13] <ranjit> hi
[18:14] <pangolin> newser: /etc/apt/sources.list is what you will want to edit to remove any sources you added.
[18:14] <newser> pangolin, I already tried whatever is  in those links
[18:15] <pangolin> newser: could you pastebin your sources.list please
[18:15] <newser> pangolin, sure, thanks for your help :)
[18:15] <noahfx> o/ hi
[18:15] <pangolin> I haven't helped yet :)
[18:16] <newser> pangolin, is there a command to show the content of a text file in terminal similar to "type" in MS-DOS?
[18:16] <salmiak> hello and merry xmas :-D
[18:16] <noahfx> anyone knows where can i find the fix of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/820784 ?
[18:16] <pangolin> newser: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:17] <noahfx> newser: cat works too
[18:17] <ptaylor> newser: look it /etc/apt/source.list.d/*
[18:17] <ptaylor> newser: usually it will be added there if u used ppa
[18:17] <salmiak> is it possible to make the filemanager (nautilus) stop ignoring the _ character when it sorts files? I used to put a _ as first character in folder names for folders that I allways want to have at the top, but nautlius ignores it
[18:18] <bignono1> thanks OerHeks
[18:19] <pangolin> newser: I gotta run but basically you want to remove anything that does not include the word lucid in the line. then after editing the file, save it and run sudo apt-get update. then follow the instructions for upgrading on the wiki. (you will have to go through each version or wait until 12.04 is released)
[18:20] <newser> pangolin, astebin.com/Wu9P3FeE
[18:20] <jsebean> hi
[18:20] <jsebean> im having a problem
[18:20] <newser> pangolin, ok, thanks
[18:20] <newser> merry christmas
[18:21] <ptaylor> newser: u have jaunty-backports in there.. take them out. I'm guessing ur using lucid right?
[18:21] <SunTsu> !ask | jsebean
[18:21] <newser> ptaylor, I believe so
[18:22] <ptaylor> newser: run .. lsb_release -a
[18:22] <ptaylor> what does it say?
[18:22] <jsebean> i am trying to access my windows workgroup on ubuntu in network on nautilus. I'm running ubuntu 11.10. WHen I open windows network and choose Workgroup it says unable to mount. I have samba installed, how do i access the share. It works on my windows machines. The shared folder is on an xp machine. Thanks and merry christmas
[18:22] <pangolin> the jaunty-backports are commented out. should not affect anything.
[18:22] <pangolin> anyway. merry Christmas to you too newser.
[18:23] <msterbrewer> i have another question
[18:23] <msterbrewer> how do i install a program not from the ubuntu software center
[18:23] <newser> ptaylor, command run not found...
[18:23] <nvz> msterbrewer: is it in deb package format?
[18:23] <msterbrewer> um
[18:24] <msterbrewer> .deb?
[18:24] <jsebean> i am trying to access my windows workgroup on ubuntu in network on nautilus. I'm running ubuntu 11.10. WHen I open windows network and choose Workgroup it says unable to mount. I have samba installed, how do i access the share. It works on my windows machines. The shared folder is on an xp machine. Thanks and merry christmas
[18:24] <blan> Hello everyone. I'm having problems connecting to eth0 with a Marvell 88E8042. dhclient connects, but nm-applet does not show any connection. Advice? Thx
[18:24] <newser> ptaylor, hehe, sorry I got it
[18:24] <msterbrewer> it has to be .deb for me to open it?
[18:24] <SunTsu> !patience | jsebean
[18:24] <delac> does the knetworkmanager have ability to create new wireless network?
[18:24] <newser> ptaylor, ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[18:24] <itaylor57> msterbrewer, what are hyou trying to install?
[18:24] <slawekebi> Welcome, Who use garmin 305 - 310 XT applications? Please send me pm.
[18:24] <newser> ptaylor, lucid
[18:24] <msterbrewer> google talk
[18:25] <ptaylor> newser: so check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and see if there's something there.
[18:25] <ptaylor> or run apt-get update .. and see what it complains about. ANd pastebin that
[18:25] <msterbrewer> it downloaded fine
[18:25] <newser> ptaylor, ok
[18:25] <itaylor57> mschonberg, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/47
[18:25] <msterbrewer> but whe n i opened it it didnt do an install
[18:25] <itaylor57> try that ppa
[18:26] <tonk> how to "rebuild wine from source" ?
[18:26] <msterbrewer> ah ok
[18:26] <itaylor57> msterbrewer, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/47 look at that ppa
[18:26] <msterbrewer> i see what i did wrong
[18:26] <arrrghhh> hey all.  i have a thinkpad t60p which ran ubuntu great.. i was told there was a kernel upgrade done, and now it fails to boot completely.
[18:26] <MerryResistance> tonk:  any reason you need to build it from source?
[18:26] <msterbrewer> i didnt download the .deb file
[18:26] <tonk> merryresistance: patched it.
[18:26] <arrrghhh> the caps lock just flashes on and off, screen is 'stuck' purple from GRUB
[18:27] <MerryResistance> tonk:  ah.  well you may want to look into how to compile software from source
[18:27] <arrrghhh> i was able to boot an older kernel with limited success, recovery mode sometimes said that it failed to mount root
[18:27] <StevenR> arrrghhh: can you boot the rescue kernel, or an older version?
[18:27] <arrrghhh> StevenR: ^^ ;)
[18:27] <StevenR> woo. lag.
[18:27] <MerryResistance> tonk:  or if you want to update the package with a patch, well... see the packaging channel or talk to whoever already packages it.
[18:27] <arrrghhh> StevenR: np, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.  a few times i got all the way to gnome.
[18:27] <newser> ptaylor, http://pastebin.com/eYbBxMq7
[18:28] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i'm just not even sure what to start troubleshooting, other than just reinstall.  which i'd like to avoid, but if it has to be done it has to be done.
[18:28] <StevenR> arrrghhh: can you be more clear about what happens when you try the rescue kernel?
[18:29] <ptaylor> newser: so it just telling you that packages were kept back. You can install that with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. You can also use update-manager -d  .. and that will bring up the screen to start the move to Oneiric.
[18:29] <StevenR> arrrghhh: and also for the older kernel (in non-recovery mode) ?
[18:29] <arrrghhh> StevenR: well which one?  they all do something different. <IP_ADDRESS> fails in recovery mode, failed to mount rot.
[18:29] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i think the older kernel would boot normally "sometimes".  let me try a few boots.
[18:30] <arrrghhh> s/rot/root/
[18:30] <StevenR> arrrghhh: ok. can you list your options, and what happens when you try them, in a pastebin paste please?
[18:30] <StevenR> arrrghhh: also, have you run memtest?
[18:30] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i haven't.  winxp boots fine.  i'll try that too.
[18:30] <jsebean> i am trying to access my windows workgroup on ubuntu in network on nautilus. I'm running ubuntu 11.10. WHen I open windows network and choose Workgroup it says unable to mount. I have samba installed, how do i access the share. It works on my windows machines. The shared folder is on an xp machine. Thanks and merry christmas
[18:30] <newser> ptaylor, apt-get dist-upgrade didn't work :(  same result as what I pasted
[18:31] <ptaylor> sudo apt-get install libgdall-dev tilp2  or sudo apt-get install -f
[18:31] <fnbrier> I was installing the latest Ubuntu dovecot (v.2.0.13) as an IMAP server and ran into a bug (#873390) that was fixed in release (1:2.0.15-1ubuntu2) and v2.1.  Synaptics is not showing that version.  I tried showing the pre-release packages, but it still did not show up.  Is there a trick to show new packages?
[18:31] <nvz> jsebean: you've said that at least 3 times now, and I'm no more inclinded to respond in a way that will help you.. first stop repeating, then forget about christmas.. and figure out what the IP/netbios name of the machine you are trying to connect to is
[18:31] <ronkrt> Merry Christmas
[18:32] <shadowe989> Merry Christmas :)
[18:32] <fnbrier> Merry Christmas.
[18:32] <nvz> jsebean: then try smbclient -L <ip/netbios> from a terminal and smb://<ip/netbios> in nautilus
[18:32] <goddard> how do i search with apt like yum search?
[18:32] <nvz> goddard: aptitude search or apt-cache search
[18:32] <ptaylor> goddard: apt-cache search "filename"
[18:33] <goddard> ok :D
[18:33] <jsebean> nvz: I never got any notifiaction until now and the post i made has long since flowed to top of chat i was trying to display it to other users... i can also access the folder by entering the smb:// address in ubuntu but id like to simply be able to browse to it in "network" folder in the nautilus
[18:34] <civixier> ctrl+alt+F* hurts my wrist after a while, is there a way to change prompt with commands instead of a hotkey?
[18:34] <arrrghhh> StevenR: memtest seems clean, but i don't have a ton of time to run the full gambit.  usually it lights up like a christmas tree within 30 seconds if there's any bad RAM (in my experience).  i'm compiling the pastebin now.
[18:34] <nvz> jsebean: we all seen it, and didn't care.. because it was vague and repeated.. as you've just pointed out now, it does in fact work, its just failing to browse the network properly. so what you repeated 3 times wasn't even the real issue
[18:34] <on1233e45love> is there a way to use mv and grep to take every file that contains the string "sans" and move it to a different subdirectory?
[18:34] <on1233e45love> (I'm new to linux)
[18:35] <jsebean> anyone know why its failing to browse the network properly?
[18:35] <StevenR> arrrghhh: ok. ping me when you're done :)
[18:35] <itaylor57> on1233e45love, yes
[18:35] <arrrghhh> will do, thx
[18:35] <ptaylor> on1233e45love: you have to use a for loop.
[18:35] <on1233e45love> anyone have the commands handy?
[18:36] <nvz> on1233e45love: yes there are a number of ways to do that.. for file in "*sans*"; mv "$file" subdirectory/; done
[18:36] <fnbrier> BTW, I have been using Fedora for the last several years and have used Debian, but recently installed Lubuntu.
[18:36] <fnbrier> I am just not familiar with the Synaptics Package Manager and Ubuntu package management.
[18:36] <on1233e45love> nvz, sans may not be in the filename.  I'd put that directly into a terminal?
[18:36] <shadowe989> on1233e45love: I'd get a bash cheatsheet off google for bash scripting
[18:37] <ptaylor> on1233e45love: go to #bash .. they have good tutorials on their topic.
[18:37] <nvz> on1233e45love: um, yes... well that method only does filenames not contents
[18:38] <enix> i have installed all these  build-essential libssl-dev libtool libvorbis-dev libvorbisidec-dev libmad0-dev libssl1.0.0   and still get an error in ./configure that it cannot find lib ssl. any ideas?
[18:38] <ptaylor> enix: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[18:38] <newser> ptaylor, I appreciate your patience. Unfortunately: Couldn't find package libgdall-dev
[18:38] <ptaylor> newser: sudo apt-get install -f
[18:38] <enix> ptaylor: have it
[18:38] <delac> does the knetworkmanager have ability to create new wireless network?
[18:39] <newser> ptaylor, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[18:40] <ptaylor> newser: these are the two files it is complaining about right? libgdal1-dev tilp2
[18:40] <ptaylor> newser: so then try .. sudo apt-get -u install libgdal1-dev tilp2
[18:41] <arrrghhh> StevenR: http://pastebin.com/mjQZ14kK
[18:41] <iToast> test
[18:41] <nvz> on1233e45love: do you need it to match case sensitive?
[18:41] <iToast> Ok. i can speak.
[18:41] <iToast> Would ubuntu be good on a netbook.
[18:41] <iToast> I hate win7 starter.
[18:41] <nvz> on1233e45love: for i in $(grep -l "sans" *); do mv "$file" subdir/; done
[18:41] <arrrghhh> this is really quite strange.  i've never had ubuntu act so wacky.
[18:41] <arrrghhh> iToast: try it out, nothing to lose.  it's free.
[18:42] <theadmin> iToast: Yeah... Ubuntu is great for netbooks, especially the recent versions
[18:42] <iToast> I wan't to stab the person who thought 7 starter was a good idea in the face.
[18:42] <nvz> on1233e45love: if you want it to match SANS, Sans, SanS.. etc, change grep -l to grep -il
[18:42] <arrrghhh> ...
[18:42] <iToast> Everything is crashing on it.
[18:42] <oCean> iToast: don't bring such comment here, I told you before
[18:42] <iToast> oCean: ...
[18:42] <iToast> oCean: I'ma install win7 start on your computer..
[18:42] <arrrghhh> iToast: we don't really care.  we're here to help or get help on ubuntu, thanks.
[18:42] <arrrghhh> please...
[18:43] <iToast> arrrghhh: I know. Thats why I come here for help with my ubuntu server :D
[18:43] <Xtoph> i want to install _only_ ubuntu on my macbook pro 5,1 but i just get a blinking cursor after chosing to try ubuntu. has anyone any idea why this could be?
[18:43] <arrrghhh> #ubuntu-server iToast
[18:43] <iToast> arrrghhh: ...
[18:43] <nvz> on1233e45love:erm...  for file in $(grep -l "sans" *); do mv "$file" subdir/; done
[18:43] <oCean> iToast: consider it your last warning
[18:43] <iToast> That channel is almost dead silent..
[18:43] <iToast> oCean: Can you stop with the "Told you this and that" and "Warnings"
[18:43] <arrrghhh> iToast: i am in there frequently, you get help in a timely manner usually.
[18:43] <on1233e45love> thanks.
[18:44] <iToast> arrrghhh: I joined before. 2 hours later I noticed that there was activity.
[18:44] <arrrghhh> anyhoo.  StevenR it seems <IP_ADDRESS> is booting now in normal mode.  this is really odd.
[18:44] <iToast> I'l try it now.
[18:44] <arrrghhh> iToast: try asking a question.
[18:44] <arrrghhh> you'd be surprised..
[18:44] <StevenR> iToast: well, if it's dead silent, start up the conversation about your issue. :)  If people know, they'll pipe up.
[18:44] <theadmin> iToast: If you do something against the channel policy, you will be first warned, and then banned, that's how it goes. So don't blame the admins for warnings, it's only normal.
[18:44] <douglas-web-dev> Merry Christmas for all!
[18:45] <iToast> StevenR: Just did.
[18:45] <arrrghhh> Merry Christmas indeed!  hooray broken family computers...
[18:45] <enix> ptaylor: any other ideas?
[18:45] <StevenR> arrrghhh: ok... can you run up synaptic and reinstall the kernel packages for <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[18:45] <iToast> theadmin: No matter what I say its not good eneugh.
[18:45] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i can do that from cli right?  sudo apt-get purge, then install?
[18:45] <iToast> How good is ubuntu's support for wireless cards? specificly Aetheros cards.
[18:45] <StevenR> arrrghhh: yes... is the box headless or otherwise gui-free?
[18:46] <theadmin> iToast: Quite acceptable. ath9k and ath5k come preinstalled AFAIK
[18:46] <ptaylor> enix: if it complaining about ssl.. usually libssl-dev takes care of that problem. Is there anything in the INSTALL.txt file or README.txt saying what it needs?
[18:46] <iToast> Dual boot anyone ;)
[18:46] <arrrghhh> StevenR: no, it just rarely makes it into a GUI.  i usually end up stuck with a tty
[18:46] <theadmin> iToast: That's also pretty easy.
[18:46] <douglas-web-dev> When is Unity 3D gonna be released for Ubuntu?
[18:46] <enix> ptaylor: i will look. thanks.
[18:46] <iToast> theadmin: What isn't easy with grub?
[18:46] <arrrghhh> douglas-web-dev: afaik it's already out no?
[18:47] <theadmin> iToast: Well, probably booting from some weird filesystem :D
[18:47] <iToast> theadmin: Grub makes that easy too!
[18:47] <StevenR> arrrghhh: if earlier versions aren't booting reliably, then there's issues to solve with those too
[18:47] <theadmin> iToast: If you chainload, yes, but...
[18:47] <StevenR> arrrghhh: maybe have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if it got to the point of actually booting enough to syslog
[18:47] <iToast> theadmin: Nothing is hard with grub
[18:47] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i agree.  i'm leaning towards some sort of corruption or outright hardware issue.
[18:47] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, Hi, don't know if you mean the same thing.. I mean the webgames plugin.. http://unity3d.com/unity/download/
[18:48] <StevenR> arrrghhh: do you have another machine, could you transplant the HDD as a test?
[18:48] <iToast> Can I ask a bit more strange of a question?
[18:48] <arrrghhh> douglas-web-dev: oh.  it's already available for ubuntu.
[18:48] <newser> ptaylor, it did lots of things and I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and got this: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:48] <arrrghhh> StevenR: unfortunately the only other machine i have is a cr-48... using that to talk to you.
[18:48] <StevenR> cr-48 ?
[18:48] <enix> ptaylor: only thing in readme is to follow tut on website
[18:48] <arrrghhh> StevenR: chromebook
[18:48] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, Cool! How can it be enabled?
[18:49] <iToast> oCean: Don't complain.
[18:49] <gribouille> hi
[18:49] <semitones-confus> hey, I'm having a problem understanding what's going on. I'm updating to oneiric, and a window for debconf pops up -- what is debconf?
[18:49] <arrrghhh> douglas-web-dev: it is by default in 11.04+ if your gfx card supports it.
[18:49] <gribouille> is there a program check javascript scripts for syntax errors?
[18:49] <nvz> gribouille: a web browser.. heh
[18:49] <gribouille> is there a program to check javascript scripts for syntax errors?
[18:50] <nvz> gribouille: a web browser.. heh
[18:50] <theadmin> gribouille: Um, there are browser addons for that. Chromium's/Chrome's built-in Inspector does that. You can also use Firebug.
[18:50]  * nvz can repeat too
[18:50] <gribouille> nvz, I need a command line program
[18:50] <nvz> gribouille: that doesn't change my answer
[18:50] <MerryResistance> !repeat | gribouille nvz
[18:50] <MerryResistance> fwiw
[18:50] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i just tried booting again on <IP_ADDRESS>.  got a black screen with only a mouse cursor
[18:51] <theadmin> gribouille: "js", then.
[18:51] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, well I think it supports, it's a Nvidia 9400 GT.. I'm gonna try to open a game... Just a sec please.
[18:51] <semitones-confus> what is debconf?
[18:51] <semitones-confus> why is it giving me the option to choose partitions
[18:51] <gribouille> theadmin, what is the option to just check syntax?
[18:52] <nvz> semitones-confus: its a package configuration system that supports multiple frontends for displaying dialogs used during installation of a package
[18:52] <gribouille> nvz, is a web broswer a command line program?
[18:52] <theadmin> gribouille: Not sure, check the manpage if any
[18:52] <nvz> gribouille: technically everything can be run from the command line, and many of them are, yes
[18:52] <semitones-confus> nvz: ok... I just deselected all the partitions and clicked forward, do you think that will be ok?
[18:52] <theadmin> gribouille: There are CLI web browsers
[18:53] <gribouille> nvz, so requiring a command line program would be nonsense
[18:53] <nvz> semitones-confus: I haven't a clue since I dont know what package you are configuring.. typically the dialogs are WIDHE compliant.. so you not knowing what you're doing and changing something is probably not good
[18:53] <gribouille> by "command line program" I mean "a non interactive program"
[18:53] <nvz> gribouille: needing to syntax check javascript is non-sense to me... if you really care to know
[18:53] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i'm baffled.  why would all these kernels fail at once, in different ways...  should i try to fsck from a live environment?
[18:53] <slyv> Hey I'm having trouble booting into ubuntu from a USB stick on my mac. When I restart the computer and press alt as instructed the boot menu comes up, but the only two options is my mac and then recovery hd, but not the USB stick.
[18:54] <gribouille> nvz, why?
[18:54] <StevenR> arrrghhh: yes, you might also try checking the boot/systlogs
[18:54] <arrrghhh> StevenR: just difficult w/o net acces on this machine
[18:55] <StevenR> arrrghhh: hmmm. can you boot with a livecd/usb ?
[18:55] <arrrghhh> StevenR: that's what i'm attempting now
[18:55] <StevenR> ok
[18:56] <OerHeks> gribouille, javascriptlint is a javascript test tool
[18:56] <gribouille> OerHeks, is available on ubuntu?
[18:58] <e01> can somebody tell me how to connect my ubuntu to windows ad hoc
[18:58] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, I'm trying to run a game. But It's displaying a button in the middle of game area for installing Unity 3D. When clicking, the official page says my operating system is not supported...
[18:58] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, sorry for the long message
[18:58] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10
[18:58] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: Well yeah, Unity Web Player doesn't support Linux.
[18:59] <semitones-confus> nvz: I think it was grub. It didn't tell me what I was doing it just gave me the options, with two partitions already selected. but i unselected them because I didn't want it to do anything
[18:59] <arrrghhh> douglas-web-dev: a game?  i guess i don't know what you mean.  what does a game have to do with unity 3d?  it's just a DE
[18:59] <theadmin> arrrghhh: False. "Unity3D" is a FlashPlayer alternative, currently for Windows and OSX.
[18:59] <arrrghhh> theadmin: isn't that what the new unity is called?
[19:00] <arrrghhh> unity 3d is 'normal', unity 2d is fallback.  no?
[19:00] <theadmin> arrrghhh: Nah, well, there're like 3 projects named "Unity", a DE, an OS, and this webplayer thing.
[19:00] <arrrghhh> StevenR: it kernel panics the livecd!?!?
[19:00] <arrrghhh> theadmin: well that's why i'm confused :P
[19:01] <arrrghhh> StevenR: this is very odd.  i have 11.10 on a dvd-r, and it kernel panics booting that... every time.
[19:01] <arrrghhh> i have an old 9.04 desktop disk, going to try that now...
[19:02] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, Thank you! But, is it possible for Ubuntu developers to build a similar software that can run Unity content, like games?
[19:02] <nvz> gribouille: because javascript is a language used to render dynamic markup in a webbrowser, like any web based content all browsers INTERPRET it differently, and the best place to syntax and do any other form of checking of js is IN THE BROWSER you want it to run in.
[19:02] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: I doubt it. Unity is closed-source and so we can't.
[19:02] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, I mean the Unity Web Player.. http://unity3d.com/webplayer/
[19:02] <arrrghhh> douglas-web-dev: how confusing.. sorry.
[19:03] <douglas-web-dev> arrrghhh, No problem :)
[19:03] <Xtoph> i'm trying to install ubuntu _without MacOS_ on my macbook pro 5,1 but i just get a blinking cursor after chosing to try ubuntu. has anyone an idea why this could be?
[19:03] <arrrghhh> StevenR: it seems to fail on 9.04 livecd too.  sqshfs errors.  failed reading block?  unable to read page, block etc.  i guess the disc is bad..?  i've used this many times before, it's an 'official' disc too
[19:03] <gribouille> nvz, the syntax is always the same. it's a standard and doesn't depend on the web browser
[19:03] <nvz> gribouille: there are many roundabout ways online you can google for to syntax check javascript but as any sensible person would tell you that only indicates that the particular tool interpreting the code at that point in time thinks its OK and is no indication at all that the code will render as expected or even run in the desired browser
[19:04] <nvz> yeah, thats what you think.. heh.. famous last words "it's a standard"
[19:04] <gribouille> nvz, I know that. I'm a programmer
[19:04] <nvz> I can think of one example right off the top of my head.. transparency
[19:05] <nvz> in IE its filter:alpha IIRC and anything else its opacity
[19:05] <arrrghhh> StevenR: but winxp boots fine.  i would "assume" this means the hardware is OK.  same RAM/HDD, etc.
[19:05] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, it's a pity... But if developers have the ability of building it as open source, do they have the legal rights to do it, considering the games are created with and for Unity?
[19:06] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: Well, nobody forbids them to open-source the games, as long as Unity provides some way to do so.
[19:06] <OerHeks> arrrghhh, maybe the dvd-drive is bad.
[19:07] <arrrghhh> OerHeks: and that prevents normal operation ?  i get that would fail on livecd boots, but why has the machine suddenly stopped booting properly.
[19:08] <TheRealMPig> I need help
[19:08] <OerHeks> arrrghhh, huh ? you type XP boots fine :-D
[19:08] <shanky> .wc
[19:08] <TheRealMPig> hello?
[19:08] <TheRealMPig> I need help plz
[19:08] <arrrghhh> OerHeks: it does.  ubuntu completely fails to boot.
[19:08] <arrrghhh> !ask | TheRealMPig
[19:08] <TheRealMPig> !ask
[19:08] <arrrghhh> ...
[19:09] <min|dvir|us> !patience
[19:09] <TheRealMPig> Okay, When I install ubuntu and boot it up it wont work a black screen comes up and theres no 4gb.
[19:11] <arrrghhh> TheRealMPig: did the machine work fine from livecd/usb?
[19:11] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, I see but, I mean by developers not the game creators, but the guys who'd develop a Unity 3D webplayer like, as open source.. if they have the ability, they could do this and publish for the community?
[19:11] <TheRealMPig> well I wasnt using a USB...
[19:11] <arrrghhh> TheRealMPig: how did you install ubuntu?
[19:11] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: I doubt the company policy would allow that.
[19:11] <TheRealMPig> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[19:12] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: idk, contact their support, it's got nothing to do with Ubuntu
[19:12] <TheRealMPig> My laptop is 64 bit and I got 4gb
[19:12] <arrrghhh> TheRealMPig: ok, you used WUBI?  i've never used WUBI, sorry i can't help you.
[19:12] <TheRealMPig> Wait I got a usb for christmas actually...
[19:13] <TheRealMPig> Im going to use the USB thingy for help! Bye and ty I will still be in chat.
[19:13] <StevenR> arrrghhh: hmm. stranger and stranger. can you try an 11.04 disk/usb ?
[19:14] <arrrghhh> StevenR: perhaps it's just my usb keys, but the same keys i always use for recovery have failed to boot as well :(
[19:14] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, I understand.. But it doesn't help if a game can be played on every web browser, but not on any platform like Linux.
[19:14] <arrrghhh> StevenR: of course winxp boots, but nothing works.  which is why i put ubuntu on this machine in the first place... sigh.
[19:15] <douglas-web-dev> The plugin is becoming very popular on online gaming websites..
[19:15] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, you tried a f12 prompt at powering on ti get a boot menu for the usb's
[19:15] <arrrghhh> StevenR: how can i even install ubuntu again?  if the livedvd's/cd's just kernel panic... ugh.
[19:15] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: it will attempt to boot from the usb key's, but it always hangs.
[19:15] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: Well, we can't do anything for you, you have to contact their support.
[19:15] <arrrghhh> i honestly think there's something wrong with the key's themselves.  they're old... but either way, the fact that live discs aren't booting is concerning.
[19:15] <Xtoph> has anyone ever managed to install ubuntu 11.10 without bootcamp on a macbook pro 5,1?
[19:16] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, you have md5 summed the original iso ?
[19:16] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: one is an official disc that's worked great in the past (it's old, 9.04).
[19:16] <arrrghhh> the other i shall md5.  maybe try wubi, bleh.
[19:16] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, Ok, thank you.
[19:17] <StevenR> arrrghhh: can the chromebook read the usbs?
[19:17] <arrrghhh> StevenR: read, but not boot from (i don't think, never tried tbh)
[19:17] <meerkats> i Have supertuxkart installed, but I cannot find it in my games menu, is the icon stored there by default?
[19:18] <arrrghhh> meerkats: you're sure it's installed..?
[19:18] <StevenR> arrrghhh: yeah, that's all I mean, can it read it?
[19:18] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, well also have a Merry Christmas, depending on where you are...
[19:18] <arrrghhh> StevenR: yea it can read 'em.
[19:18] <meerkats> arrrghhh, synaptic says so
[19:18] <arrrghhh> meerkats: try to run it from alt-f2 or terminal
[19:18] <StevenR> arrrghhh: checked for stupid things like dust in usb ports?
[19:18] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: We don't celebrate Christmas on 25th, rather on 7th January, but thanks anyway
[19:19] <StevenR> arrrghhh: what versions are you trying to boot from the usb sticks?
[19:19] <arrrghhh> StevenR: it detects the usb key.  attempts to boot from it, but hangs during the boot process.  both sticks are 11.10 if i'm not mistaken, but is there a way to tell by looking at the files?
[19:19] <douglas-web-dev> theadmin, Oh nice, where are you at?
[19:19] <theadmin> douglas-web-dev: pm, please.
[19:19] <itaylor57> theadmin, yea the epiphany
[19:20] <StevenR> arrrghhh: there might be a version file or some such
[19:20] <theadmin> itaylor57: e... what?
[19:20] <arrrghhh> happy Yule :P
[19:20] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i don't see anything jumping out at me. but lately i haven't been very good at fixing anything..
[19:20] <delac> does the knetworkmanager have the ability to create new wireless network?
[19:20] <arrrghhh> delac: for you to connect to, or for others to connect to?
[19:21] <delac> arrrghhh: others
[19:21] <arrrghhh> delac: no.
[19:21] <arrrghhh> perhaps with 2 wlan cards...?
[19:21] <itaylor57> theadmin, or different calendar?
[19:21] <theadmin> itaylor57: Yeah.
[19:21] <delac> arrrghhh: oh, I thought the "normal" networkmanager has this ability?
[19:21] <arrrghhh> or do you have it hardwired, you only are using the wlan to share?
[19:22] <arrrghhh> delac: i think i may have misunderstood.
[19:22] <delac> arrrghhh: I only have a laptop with wifi and like to set it up as access point
[19:22] <itaylor57> theadmin, yep Julian vs Gregorian
[19:22] <arrrghhh> delac: how are you getting the laptop online?
[19:23] <delac> arrrghhh: with 3G connection
[19:23] <arrrghhh> delac: ok, then what you said is probably possible.
[19:24] <delac> arrrghhh: yes, i hope so. only, i dont know how...
[19:25] <ozzloy> hey
[19:25] <ozzloy> hey i have an idea
[19:25] <TheRealMPig> Okay another problem: I followed the instructions for the usb its in my usb now what do I do now?
[19:25] <iToast> test
[19:26] <ozzloy> i could record myself installing ubuntu on each laptop i have, from 0 to all the updates
[19:26] <ozzloy> everyone could do that
[19:26] <ozzloy> put up on youtubes
[19:26] <arrrghhh> delac: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=94145
[19:26] <ozzloy> have videos for every kind of laptop
[19:26] <TheRealMPig> Arrrrghh?
[19:26] <ozzloy> then people would know exactly what they're getting into
[19:27] <arrrghhh> is there any way to keep the network configuration from holding up the boot process?
[19:27] <TheRealMPig> Can you awnser my question I said before sorry I ust love Ubuntu my friend has it <3
[19:27] <arrrghhh> TheRealMPig: boot from it...?
[19:27] <urlin2u> ozzloy, you get on that.
[19:27] <Xtoph> TheRealMPig: restart with the usb drive plugged in. make sure you can boot from usb in your bios
[19:27] <TheRealMPig> So I close my laptop
[19:27] <TheRealMPig> put the USB in and turn it on?
[19:27] <arrrghhh> TheRealMPig: make sure you boot from usb
[19:27] <ozzloy> is there a place to submit this kind of idea to the powers that be of ubuntu?
[19:27] <iToast> I have a question, well it splits into 2
[19:27] <TheRealMPig> how do I boot from USB?
[19:27] <TheRealMPig> Thats what I dont know how...
[19:27] <arrrghhh> every machine is different.  most you hit f12 and you get a menu
[19:28] <iToast> TheRealMPig: UNETBOOTIN
[19:28] <arrrghhh> TheRealMPig: every machine is different. you have to figure that out yourself.
[19:28] <arrrghhh> iToast: please don't confuse him.
[19:28] <TheRealMPig> kk
[19:28] <iToast> oh
[19:28] <iToast> He confused me...
[19:28] <Xtoph> TheRealMPig: do that. if it doesnt work, try to enter bios and make sure you can boot from usb
[19:28] <TheRealMPig> kk
[19:28] <TheRealMPig> thx
[19:28] <arrrghhh> hrm.  it seems this usb key is trying to upgrade itself and failing?  perhaps that's why it won't boot.  wth.
[19:28] <iToast> Any ways, 1. Can I use MS Office in wine on ubuntu and 2. How good is ubuntu with netbooks?
[19:28] <Xtoph> TheRealMPig: and before you install ubuntu, make a backup!
[19:29] <ozzloy> urlin2u, do you think this is actually a good idea?
[19:29] <arrrghhh> ozzloy: not really
[19:29] <Xtoph> TheRealMPig: just in case :)
[19:29] <delac> arrrghhh: thanks, I'm going to see if that works for me
[19:29] <urlin2u> ozzloy, no not really, to many variables, I suspect you can see any model any dist already there.
[19:30] <mneptok> iToast: the netbooks question is too open-ended for a support channel. i have no experience with Office and WINE
[19:30] <ozzloy> urlin2u, you think it's already available on the internets?
[19:30] <urlin2u> ozzloy, I would be surprised if it is not in some form.
[19:30] <arrrghhh> hey guys, i'm trying to boot from liveusb, and it says "Unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, sleeping for 5s" -> what?!?
[19:30] <ozzloy> ic
[19:31] <mneptok> arrrghhh: you have auto updates enabled, shut down the machine while they were running, and now it's catching up. sit and wait.
[19:31] <arrrghhh> mneptok: this is a liveusb...
[19:31] <mneptok> arrrghhh: you can update a USB image
[19:31] <arrrghhh> i also have no internet on this machine until booting in, sit and wait for what?
[19:32] <mneptok> arrrghhh: it will timeout endlessly waiting to finish updates, i expect. just make a fresh USB install rom a CD image.
[19:32] <arrrghhh> mneptok: i'm getting a bunch of ext2-fs (loop1): error: ext2_lookup: delete inode referenced: 151785
[19:32] <mneptok> s/rom/from
[19:32] <arrrghhh> mneptok: ugh.  this laptop kernel pancis from livedvd/cd.
[19:33] <theadmin> arrrghhh: If it's just the live, why not use the alternative install discs?
[19:33] <mneptok> arrrghhh: filesystem errors are usually not trivial
[19:33] <arrrghhh> mneptok: agreed
[19:33] <arrrghhh> theadmin: i guess i could download and install more stuff.  i just don't want to be here for 10 hours...
[19:33] <arrrghhh> (slow internet)
[19:34] <arrrghhh> i figured the gambit of stuff i brought would be sufficient... ugh.  what a mess.  i wonder if there is some hardware problem.
[19:35] <valy> sall
[19:35] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, you using the cd download on the dvd or the dvd download?
[19:36] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: i believe it was the cd version burned to a dvd.
[19:36] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: but i also have an official 9.04 cd from ubuntu
[19:37] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, not sure but I think that could be a problem, I think you just have a series of shortcuts that is burning you.
[19:37] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: i honestly don't know.  seems everything is against me today :/
[19:37] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, wha happens when you boot the 9.04
[19:37] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: kernel panic
[19:38] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, you say kernel panic is it just a black screen.
[19:38] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: no it says kernel panic, not syncing blah blah.  then the caps lock flashes constantly.  same when i try to boot <IP_ADDRESS> from the hdd.
[19:39] <StevenR> arrrghhh: can you disconnect the hard drive and try with the livecds/usbs ?
[19:39] <arrrghhh> StevenR: if i boot with a livecd, when/how does the hdd come into play?  i can try tho
[19:40] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, so as of now it bots straight to XP?
[19:40] <urlin2u> boots
[19:40] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: i get the grub2 menu.  xp is the only thing that boots consistently, tho.
[19:41] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, you can do a manual boot in I will find you a link.
[19:41] <arrrghhh> eh?  o
[19:41] <arrrghhh> k
[19:42] <arrrghhh> i knew i should've downloaded a few iso's before heading up here... oh well.
[19:42] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, here you go read carefully every space and input has to be perfect to work, took me a while to figure it out when practicing.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot_a_Specific_Kernel_Manually
[19:43] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: thanks for the link, but that isn't my issue.  i do see the grub menu, and i can boot specific kernels.  they just all fail.
[19:44] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, you sure it is 11.10 not 12.04 it has a kernel crash problem?
[19:44] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: positive.
[19:44] <arrrghhh> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:48] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, since you have a slow download I would consider a slitaz or puppy linux download both are really small, and see if you can boot either. You know whats best with what yo have though.
[19:48] <urlin2u> you*
[19:48] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: hrm.  ok.
[19:49] <arrrghhh> my dad has a 11.10 iso for 32-bit desktop, going to try and redo my usb key. if that fails, i'll try pulling the hdd and booting from a livecd.
[19:52] <mcbaine1> Anyone tried Trisquel  .... Ubuntu derivative .... ??
[19:52] <nnx> helo, im having a some trouble with my laptop, the mouse buttons doesnt work, and when i plug inn an external mouse it doesnt work either
[19:52] <nnx> anyway to reset some settings ?
[19:52] <nnx> running ubuntu ofc
[19:52] <arrrghhh> mcbaine1: yea, it only uses OSS stuff AFAIK.  which is trying at times.
[19:54] <BlueProtoman> Is it worth upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 from 11.04?
[19:55] <BlueProtoman> It's been over two months since Oneiric's been out, surely it's super stable by now?
[19:57] <urlin2u> BlueProtoman, I would make an image of the 11.04 first just to have a backup plan, oneirics seems okay.
[19:58] <BlueProtoman> urlin2u: How might I do that?  And is there any chance of losing some data in the transition, or leaving some programs incompatible?
[19:58] <BlueProtoman> Argh, gotta go.
[19:59] <arrrghhh> holy cow i booted off liveusb StevenR.
[19:59] <BlueProtoman> urlin2u: Can you PM me any relevant info and I'll get to it when I return?
[19:59] <urlin2u> BlueProtoman, clonezilla is excellent for cloning clonezilla.org  Otherwise there is always a danger of loss of data at any time.
[19:59] <arrrghhh> what can i check for?  am i just in for a complete reinstall?
[19:59]  * BlueProtoman is away
[20:00] <urlin2u> arrrghhh, how would you reinstall wuith a wubi?
[20:00] <urlin2u> with*
[20:00] <arrrghhh> urlin2u: it's not wubi, it's installed natively.
[20:00] <arrrghhh> plus it's booting off the liveusb. i'm in a live environment.
[20:01] <arrrghhh> i guess i'll try an upgrade
[20:03] <no_gravity> Hello! In Ubuntu 11, how do I add/remove stuff from this new application launcher bar on the left?
[20:03] <no_gravity> And another question: in previous u
[20:03] <xangua> no_gravity: open the dash and drag from there anything you want
[20:04] <no_gravity> xangua: thanks! lets try that...
[20:04] <raed> hi, in 11.04 how do we start Burg ?
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> raed: wouldn't burg be run at boot?
[20:05] <bullgard4> Who is »we«?
[20:05] <ubuntu> hfdk
[20:06] <no_gravity> xangua: hmm.. i want to add a root terminal. its not in the dash i think. how can i add custom commands?
[20:06] <raed> nope it doesn't run
[20:07] <no_gravity> And another question: in previous Ubuntus, I got to an application menu by pressing ALT+F1. Is it possible to have that in Ubuntu 11?
[20:07] <aeon-ltd> no_gravity: you mean alt-f2?
[20:08] <no_gravity> aeon-ltd: yes, that seems to work. thanks!
[20:09] <no_gravity> Is it possible to make the dash non-opaque? For me this opaque background makes it hard to read.
[20:09] <OerHeks> raed, i never tried burg, but there is lot of info > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Burg
[20:11] <meerkats> what are the advantages of 64 bits vs 32 bits?
[20:12] <arrrghhh> ok, so i did an upgrade from 11.10 to 11.10.. but it still kernel panics.  how can i tell which one to boot!?!?
[20:12] <arrrghhh> meerkats: on ubuntu the difference isn't so great.  applications optimized for 64-bit systems should run faster.  you can map more RAM, but with PAE that's kinda moot.
[20:12] <embrik> a friend of mine has got a crash on his hd. It has got Mac OS - have not been able to mount it - anyuone who can give me a tip?
[20:13] <arrrghhh> embrik: you'd have to mount the drive hfs. i think linux can...
[20:14] <embrik> arrrghhh, ok, I've tried before but I didn't make it - he has got a lot of pic and films on it  - I think I will try it once more
[20:14] <auronandace> meerkats: unless you have a dire need for 32bit apps you may as well use 64bit
[20:14] <meerkats> where in sysinfo do I have to look to know if my craptop supports 64 bits?
[20:15] <Guybrush88> ?h
[20:15] <mebigfatguy1> well, cpyu
[20:15] <mebigfatguy1> cpu
[20:15] <meerkats> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P9500  @ 2.53GHz, can that support 63 bits?
[20:15] <meerkats> 64*
[20:15] <mebigfatguy1> probably not 63 :)
[20:16] <auronandace> meerkats: yes
[20:16] <arrrghhh> StevenR: you still there?
[20:16] <theadmin> lol 63 bits
[20:16] <arrrghhh> meerkats: that will support 64 bits
[20:16] <meerkats> and how do you know if I may ask?
[20:16] <meerkats> GHz?
[20:16] <auronandace> meerkats: all core2duos do
[20:17] <arrrghhh> ^^
[20:17] <meerkats> a
[20:17] <mebigfatguy1> meerkats: no family of processor
[20:17] <arrrghhh> meerkats: you'd need a pretty old proc to not support 64-bit...
[20:17] <mebigfatguy1> so you could do a web search on core 2 duo
[20:17] <mebigfatguy1> and find out
[20:17] <meerkats> i see
[20:17] <OerHeks> architecture is 64 bit.
[20:18] <arrrghhh> sigh. screw it, reinstall time.
[20:18] <mebigfatguy1> probably any multicore processor is 64 bit
[20:18] <mebigfatguy1> unless its like 2006 or somethign
[20:19] <meerkats> where in sysinfor do I look to check if my 11.10 is 32 or 64?
[20:19] <xangua> meerkats: uname -a
[20:19] <arrrghhh> meerkats: should show in system information
[20:19] <auronandace> meerkats: just type: uname -a in a terminal
[20:19] <arrrghhh> why even send him to the terminal guys....
[20:19] <arrrghhh> meerkats: type "system" in the search box for unity. then click system info.
[20:20] <Guest20811> nick adrian_
[20:20] <estecm> can i send popup messages to Rwindows users?
[20:20] <Guest20811> hello, does anybody know how to install dazukofs on ubuntu 11.04 kernel 2.6.38-13?
[20:20] <mebigfatguy1> funny that 64bit is still called 'amd'
[20:20] <arrrghhh> mebigfatguy1: yea threw my dad for a loop.
[20:20] <meerkats> Linux dexter-M7X0SUN 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:34:47 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[20:20] <mebigfatguy1> quite a coup by them
[20:21] <auronandace> meerkats: thats 32bit
[20:21] <mebigfatguy1> i386 is 32 bit
[20:21] <mebigfatguy1> it would say amd64 for 64
[20:21] <mebigfatguy1> even if you have intel
[20:21] <meerkats> ok
[20:22] <adrian__> does anybody know how to install dazukofs on ubuntu 11.04 kernel 2.6.38-13, please?
[20:23] <arrrghhh> adrian__: any reason you're stuck on 11.04?
[20:23] <arrrghhh> 10.04 makes sense.  11.04 does not.
[20:23] <estecm> how to install the last linux kernel?
[20:23] <estecm> how to install the last linux kernel?
[20:23] <arrrghhh> estecm: it will install automatically
[20:23] <arrrghhh> ubuntu will approve kernels and move them in as they deem them stable.
[20:24]  * mebigfatguy1 can't run linux 3.0 :(
[20:24] <StevenR> arrrghhh: back now.
[20:24] <arrrghhh> StevenR: pillaging and starting over.
[20:24] <StevenR> arrrghhh: :(
[20:25] <arrrghhh> StevenR: meh.  my mom's smart, does everything online.  so i can wipe without taking backups :D
[20:28] <arrrghhh> wtf, the installer crashed?
[20:28] <arrrghhh> this machine is cursed.
[20:29] <e-i-k-e> hi
[20:29] <arrrghhh> !hi | e-i-k-e
[20:29] <arrrghhh> wtf
[20:29] <arrrghhh> !hello
[20:29] <arrrghhh> ok, i give up.
[20:30] <r4y> hello sidewinder1
[20:30] <e-i-k-e> this is not only ubuntu related but i think you can help me
[20:30] <auronandace> arrrghhh: that factoid was removed ages ago
[20:30] <e-i-k-e> could somone please have a look at https://github.com/JakeWharton/mkvdts2ac3/commits/master/mkvdts2ac3.sh and tell me whats the problem with line 91 and 103
[20:30] <arrrghhh> auronandace: i used it all the damned time!
[20:30] <e-i-k-e> i only want to use the script right now and don't go to my bookshelf and read the shell scripting guide i bought a year ago ^^
[20:31] <msterbrewer> i ran into another problem
[20:31] <msterbrewer> could just be my computer
[20:31] <msterbrewer> i had a game and it froze
[20:31] <sidney> Anyone know if Ubuntu can take advantage of Intel's Smart Response Technology?
[20:31] <msterbrewer> what shortcut key is it to kill it
[20:31] <cholby> i want to pay money to get a name on a phone number.  i want to know who called me.  what is the best service?
[20:31] <msterbrewer> like hitting ctrl alt del and kill process
[20:31] <arrrghhh> cholby: wrong room
[20:31] <cholby> tell me the right room
[20:31] <sidney> Or would this purchase be a waste of money
[20:32] <arrrghhh> StevenR: so i have a fresh reinstall, but the installer crashed.
[20:32] <cholby> arrrghhh you fucking faggot.  lol
[20:32] <cholby> what's the right room, arrrghhh ?
[20:32] <arrrghhh> cholby: ?
[20:32] <cholby> looool
[20:32] <cholby> #gaysex?  no i'm looking for a reverse phone
[20:32] <cholby> you dumb nigger
[20:32] <cholby> lololololol
[20:32] <arrrghhh> please don't curse at me.
[20:32] <FloodBot1> cholby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <arrrghhh> wow.
[20:32] <arrrghhh> Merry Christmas.
[20:32] <xsaidx> hello
[20:32] <cholby> faggot
[20:32] <xangua> !ops | cholby
[20:32] <xsaidx> keepassX get opened only in read only mode
[20:32] <cholby> fags
[20:32] <cholby> fags
[20:32] <cholby> fags
[20:32] <cholby> fags
[20:32] <FloodBot1> cholby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <msterbrewer> um i got a question on keyboard shortcuts
[20:33] <msterbrewer> what do i do to kill an open program that has crashed
[20:33] <dustin_> I have 3 network adapters, one is bridged to a VM (it works fine), one is used for wan (works fine until.....) the last one ETH2 I want to use for LAN traffic (this one is my problem child) if I set up PMS linux to use ETH2 then my desktop tries to use it for WAN and when I set WAN back to ETH0 PMS linux freaks out
[20:33] <arrrghhh> msterbrewer: alt-f4?
[20:33] <msterbrewer> didnt work
[20:34] <msterbrewer> i ended up just hitting the power button
[20:34] <msterbrewer> i hit ctrl alt del
[20:34] <msterbrewer> ctrl alt esc
[20:34] <arrrghhh> msterbrewer: well it's a little late now then.  there's safer ways.  REISUB for one.
[20:34] <msterbrewer> nothing worked
[20:34] <msterbrewer> i was stuck in a program that froze
[20:34] <msterbrewer> full screen
[20:34] <dustin_> did you trty ctrl-alt-F1 then sudo reboot now?
[20:34] <xangua> pkill proccesname  msterbrewer
[20:35] <arrrghhh> REISUB works anywhere pretty much if ctrl-alt-fX doesn't work.
[20:35] <xangua> msterbrewer: control+att+del is not activated by default, you need to enable it on keyboard preferences
[20:36] <angelos318> good evening everyone
[20:37] <arrrghhh> auronandace: so was it replaced by something else, or just removed?
[20:37] <arrrghhh> !welcome
[20:37] <arrrghhh> nada.
[20:37] <angelos318> guys i have a serious problem that is bothering me for the past few days. Anyone kind to pm me?
[20:37] <xsaidx> guys keepassX get opned in read only mode anyonw kno how to fix this
[20:37] <arrrghhh> !ask | angelos318
[20:38] <angelos318> alrighty thanks and sry ;)
[20:38] <arrrghhh> xsaidx: i thought you could choose which mode to open it in when you initially authenticate?
[20:39] <xsaidx> arrrghhh: uhm where can i choose that ?
[20:39] <arrrghhh> xsaidx: i've only used passwordsafe, never keepass.  sorry.
[20:39] <arrrghhh> i just said i thought when you authenticate you can choose readonly mode.
[20:39] <xsaidx> arrrghhh: okay thanks
[20:39] <angelos318> I have made a clean install of ubuntu 11.10 and after the install, and restart, I got a message in grub "Error: You need to load the kernel first". I tried a clean install and the problem persists. I also tried some tools like rescatux with no luck
[20:39] <arrrghhh> np
[20:40] <arrrghhh> food time, bbl
[20:40] <dork> angelos318: you see no exceptions during the install related to grub or grub installing itself etc?
[20:40] <msterbrewer> ok i do ctrl alt f1 then killall program
[20:40] <msterbrewer> what do i do to exit ctrl alt f1
[20:40] <dustin_> ctrl-alt-F
[20:40] <msterbrewer> thanks
[20:40] <dustin_> F7**
[20:41] <angelos318> dork, nothing at all, install is successful
[20:41] <msterbrewer> its killall programname?
[20:41] <theadmin> msterbrewer: Yeah, e.g. killall firefox
[20:41] <msterbrewer> k
[20:42] <theadmin> msterbrewer: You don't really need to go into a TTY for that, just ctrl-alt-t would open a graphical terminal
[20:42] <msterbrewer> ctrl alt t didnt work when i tried it
[20:42] <msterbrewer> i think the program froze and took up all of the ram or something
[20:42] <msterbrewer> since the mouse was still moveing but veyr very slowly
[20:43] <dustin_> I have had programs lock the x-server
[20:43] <dustin_> happens a lot since 11.04 on some of my old hardware computers
[20:44] <msterbrewer> im still new to ubuntu
[20:44] <msterbrewer> only started using it 2 days ago
[20:44] <dustin_> user since 7.10 here :)
[20:44] <simion314> is that program a game or something that uses 3d?
[20:44] <msterbrewer> besides for that one program and the wifi problem i had easilier
[20:44] <msterbrewer> i love it
[20:44] <msterbrewer> i liek windows since i grew up with it
[20:44] <msterbrewer> im used ot it
[20:45] <msterbrewer> but until linux can run skyrim im gonna keep running windows on better computers
[20:46] <dustin_> what is skyrim?
[20:46] <msterbrewer> i very very fun rpg game
[20:46] <msterbrewer> massive map
[20:47] <msterbrewer> great grafix
[20:47] <dustin_> check out playonlinux and cedega
[20:47] <dustin_> I play guild wars on my linux box
[20:47] <dustin_> but then again I have 6gb ram and a 4 core AMD phenom2
[20:48] <dustin_> black edition
[20:48] <msterbrewer> im gonna get a laptop with more than that in 2 weeks
[20:48] <msterbrewer> 2.4 gigahertz 8 gig ram 1 giga nviga
[20:48] <dustin_> not bad
[20:48] <msterbrewer> its a laptop
[20:49] <dustin_> well for someone new to linux in general it wouldnt be bad for you to check out pinguy
[20:49] <dustin_> it is a buntu variant
[20:49] <msterbrewer> the game?
[20:49] <dork> if it's an ubuntu fork i don't see what the problem would be
[20:49] <dork> as long as it's current and not EOL.
[20:50] <dustin_> Pinguy is a "cleaned up" 11.04
[20:50] <dustin_> flash ready and all
[20:50] <dork> so it's 11.04 with natty removed?
[20:50] <dork> errr
[20:50] <dork> s/natty/unity/
[20:50] <msterbrewer> hmmm
[20:50] <krysits> Doeas anybody know some LAMP solution for rss2sms
[20:50] <msterbrewer> so i could just change my ubuntu to pinguy?
[20:50] <dustin_> gnome desktop with docky and conky
[20:50] <dork> gnome 3 ?
[20:51] <dustin_> gnome 2.32.1
[20:51] <dork> ah
[20:51] <dustin_> its nice
[20:51] <msterbrewer> is there a way o convert my unbuntu to pinguy
[20:51] <urlin2u> msterbrewer, not the support you have here for ubuntu though, pguy would not get help here.
[20:51] <msterbrewer> or woudl i need to make another partion to install it
[20:51] <dustin_> download and install pinguy is the easiest way to do it
[20:52] <msterbrewer> i think ill stil to unix
[20:52] <msterbrewer> ill figure my way through it
[20:52] <msterbrewer> im always ready to learn
[20:52] <dork> msterbrewer: what is the problem you're having?
[20:52] <msterbrewer> nothing specific
[20:52] <msterbrewer> im just learning
[20:52] <dustin_> small issue of full screen program freezing
[20:52] <msterbrewer> second day using linux
[20:52] <dork> ah
[20:52] <dork> cool
[20:53] <dork> msterbrewer: i'd stick it out with ubuntu before you start digging into other distros
[20:53] <dork> just a friendly recommendation
[20:53] <msterbrewer> i am
[20:53] <dork> it's conducive to the newbie experience
[20:53] <msterbrewer> i dont mind a challange
[20:54] <msterbrewer> ive managed to find all my files from the windows partion and get them to run on linux
[20:54] <msterbrewer> pictures videos etc
[20:54] <dork> yep
[20:54] <msterbrewer> im not a total nun in that part
[20:54] <msterbrewer> nub
[20:54] <dork> you're a noob, just an intuitive one!
[20:54] <msterbrewer> agreed
[20:54] <dustin_> we all start somewhere
[20:55] <dork> it's all good though, being a noob and digging into linux is fun
[20:55] <msterbrewer> got a question
[20:55] <dork> professionally it's boring
[20:55] <msterbrewer> the taskbar thing on top
[20:55] <msterbrewer> is there anyway to move it to the bottom
[20:55] <dustin_> yes
[20:55] <dork> yep
[20:55] <msterbrewer> ok how
[20:55] <crazybyte> hello!. how can I change the default locale from console on oneiric server? I tried all the recommended methods that I got on the internet but neither the /etc/environment or the /etc/default/locale files aren't working (I still get that annoying perl: cannot set locale message). thank you
[20:55] <dustin_> right click an open area
[20:55] <dustin_> and click move
[20:55] <dustin_> you will figure it our from there realy fast
[20:56] <dustin_> wait that was gnome
[20:56] <dustin_> you are in unity huh?
[20:56] <dustin_> unity isnt that cusomisable
[20:56] <msterbrewer> ok and how do i minimiz all the open programs
[20:56] <dork> he said he's in gnome 2
[20:57] <dork> i thought
[20:57] <dustin_> I am in gnome 2
[20:57] <dork> oh ok
[20:57] <msterbrewer> its not movin
[20:57] <dustin_> and it was 2.2x that let you move them on a whim
[20:57] <msterbrewer> im not getting anything to click when i right click on it
[20:57] <dustin_> yeah I forgot that you were in unity
[20:58] <dustin_> sorry msterbrewer
[20:58] <msterbrewer> cant move it oh well
[20:58] <msterbrewer> it just looks wrong
[20:58] <msterbrewer> used to it being on the bottom in windows
[20:58] <dustin_> the side bar in unity can get anoying too
[20:58] <msterbrewer> ok how do i minimize everything
[20:58] <dustin_> since your window close and back button are right there
[20:59] <dork> untiy is pretty much crap
[20:59] <dustin_> agreed
[20:59] <dustin_> and its not very new user friendly
[20:59] <dork> msterbrewer: might want to start looking at other window managers
[20:59] <dork> dustin_: agreed
[20:59] <msterbrewer> would make sense to make it more like windows start bar
[20:59] <msterbrewer> that you can custimize it to be always there
[20:59] <dustin_> msterbrewer, kde
[21:00] <dork> bleh
[21:00] <dork> no
[21:00] <dork> not kde
[21:00] <dork> :P
[21:00] <FloodBot1> dork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <msterbrewer> its sligh annnoyances
[21:00] <msterbrewer> nothign major
[21:00] <dustin_> msterbrewer, for new user from win it will blow your mind :D
[21:00] <joallard> My integrated laptop webcam has stopped working between reboots - "system error: starting video stream (VIDIOC_STREAMON): No space left on device (28)"; Where do I start?
[21:00] <msterbrewer> it has so far
[21:01] <dork> joallard: sounds like it's trying to save data somewhere where there is no space
[21:01] <dustin_> go into unity menue
[21:01] <guntbert> crazybyte: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale#Troubleshooting ?
[21:01] <dustin_> msterbrewer, then type synaptic
[21:01] <msterbrewer> you mean joallard
[21:01] <crazybyte> guntbert, yes and I tried that too
[21:01] <dustin_> msterbrewer, once in synaptic you will see all available packages for ubuntu
[21:02] <dork> msterbrewer: you might like other window managers, i like xfce myself
[21:02] <dustin_> everyone likes something a little different
[21:02] <msterbrewer> k
[21:02] <joallard> (irc crashed, sorry; who replied?) I checked the free space where my /tmp is, i still have 11GB left
[21:02] <guntbert> crazybyte: I try to remember - I fixed it once
[21:02] <dustin_> I use Gnome pannels on Kde plasma
[21:02] <oCean> dork, dustin_ please don't start a desktop usability discussion here
[21:02] <crazybyte> guntbert, I tried to define it in environment and locale but neither of them works
[21:03] <dork> oCean: nobody's starting a wm war here, we're making recommendations, which is what he asked for
[21:03] <dork> simmer down
[21:03] <crazybyte> guntbert, if you could remember where is the default locale set or what command can be used to reset it
[21:04] <oCean> dork: no, that's not what this channel is for. Those usually result in endless discussion, only cluttering the channel
[21:04] <dustin_> is there anyone here that uses multiple ETH cards that can help me keep my network manager from freeking out?
[21:04] <guntbert> crazybyte: thats what I am trying just now :)
[21:04] <dork> dustin_: what's your problem?
[21:04] <crazybyte> guntbert, sorry. thanks in advance :)
[21:05] <dustin_> I have an ETH card I use for Wan traffic and one I want to use for PMS-linux but for some reason it wants to only use one at a time
[21:05] <joallard> who replied to me, i crashed
[21:05] <dork> joallard: sounds like it's trying to save data somewhere where there is no space, do a df -h
[21:06] <dork> dustin_: sounds pretty cut and dry, ifconfig -a shows the interface available?
[21:06] <guntbert> crazybyte: if I remember correctly I followed http://www.cgurnik.com/2011/02/20/fixing-perl-warning-setting-locale-failed-in-ubuntu/
[21:06] <joallard> dork: thanks. it looks like there's space everywhere though
[21:06] <dork> joallard: it's probably temp data, maybe permissions
[21:06] <dork> joallard: did you try googling the error?
[21:07] <crazybyte> guntbert, yeah, I read that too and did it
[21:07] <crazybyte> :)
[21:07] <joallard> dork: of course i did, but it seems not many have had the problem
[21:07] <dork> probably similar problems but different hardware
[21:07] <joallard> i've read about some people having a full /tmp, but that wasn't my case; the rest didn't seem to apply
[21:07] <dork> refine your searches
[21:07] <dustin_> dork, for some reason the system wants to default everything to one card
[21:07] <guntbert> crazybyte: and did you log out/log in after the changes?
[21:07] <dork> dustin_: default what? the route?
[21:07] <dustin_> dork, then is ignores the other
[21:08] <crazybyte> guntbert, I rebooted the server
[21:08] <dork> dustin_: can you do an ifconfig -a and a route -n and pastebin it?
[21:08] <dustin_> dork, if I use ETH 0 for internet connection it tries to send everyting through it
[21:08] <msterbrewer> whats the difference between amd64 andi386
[21:08] <msterbrewer> is that the processor?
[21:08] <dork> dustin_: so you need to change your routes
[21:08] <dork> dustin_: you need to add a route
[21:08] <crazybyte> guntbert, several times trying to fix this (i'm building it so I can do that for now)
[21:08] <guntbert> crazybyte: sorry, I cannot remember more of it - try and ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:09] <Guest69066> merry christmas from poland
[21:09] <dustin_> dork ok this is new territory for me, how do I create the new rout
[21:09] <joallard> dork: refining the search gives 2 results, 0 relevant
[21:09] <dork> dustin_: i need a comprehensive explaination of what you're trying to do as far as your ethernet interfaces and routes go
[21:09] <dork> joallard: that's the only error you see from dmesg or /var/log/messages
[21:09] <dork> ?
[21:09] <joallard> dork: good point, i'll check the logs
[21:10] <dustin_> ETH 0 for wan traffic, Eth2 for LAN traffic, ETH3 for bridged to VM last one works fine
[21:10] <dork> ok so eth2 , you're trying to route local traffice over that interface right? what is the network you want to route over that interface and what is the gateway for that interface
[21:11] <dustin_> I just want to make a wired connection to my PS3 directly to that port
[21:12] <dustin_> dork interface**
[21:12] <dork> so for example if you needed to push all traffic for <IP_ADDRESS>/24 over eth2 and eth2 can see a gateway for that network you would do something like route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/24 gw some.routers.ip.address/subnet
[21:13] <dork> so anything destined for that network will go over that interface because it can see that gateway
[21:13] <philpem> Quick question -- is anyone here running 11.10/Oneiric with a Ralink RT3062 WiFi chip?
[21:14] <joallard> dork: weird, it seems like it's a regression bug in kernel 3.2
[21:14] <philpem> Planning to buy a card with that chip and was wondering if it worked in AP mode.
[21:14] <joallard> but i got 3.1.3
[21:15] <dork> could be a bug backported
[21:15] <dork> joallard: got a link to the bugreport
[21:15] <dork> ?
[21:15] <joallard> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/899165
[21:15] <dork> philpem: depends if the chip supports master mode but seriously, avoid realtek
[21:15] <dork> philpem: go atheros all the way for wireless chipsets
[21:15] <dustin_> dork, I guess I am not fallowing, can I have ETH2 assign IP to the PS3? with dhcp
[21:16] <guntbert> !enter | dork
[21:16] <joallard> While this post (http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg55020.html) points to being present in 3.1.3, I'll upgrade kernel
[21:16] <philpem> dork, the only atheros card I found was listed as "not supported under linux" by the manufacturer. couldn't find out what chip it used.
[21:16] <dork> i've gotten more complaints from trying to actually help people in here than anything
[21:16] <dork> it's quite discouraging
[21:16] <philpem> TP-Link TL-WN951N fyi
[21:16] <jnwhiteh> I'm having an issue with HDMI sound output under 11.10 on my Thinkpad x121e. The sound works, but is choppy, such that watching a youtube video gives a second of sound or two, followed by a few seconds of silence.. and back and forth. A search of the ubuntu forums/general internet doesn't quite give me any information. Anyone have any suggestions?
[21:17] <dork> guntbert: was that directed towards me? if so i'll just leave
[21:17] <mongy> Is port 51413 (the one set in transmission and opened in my firewall) the only one I need to open?  the download was fast but the seeding is really slow..
[21:18] <philpem> dork: also, this is a Ralink chip, not realtek. subtle difference :)
[21:18] <jnwhiteh> The card is an HDA Intel PCH
[21:18] <dork> 15:17 <guntbert> you managed several times to scroll the question of someone I tried to help off my screen, so please ... be easy on the <enter> key
[21:18] <dork> lol.
[21:18] <dork> what a joke.
[21:18] <philpem> i've never had any trouble with the ones in my various laptops (ralink seem to have the market cornered on those)
[21:19] <guntbert> !ops | dork
[21:19] <jnwhiteh> (you do realise you just did exactly what he's complaining about, right?)
[21:19] <dork> philpem: ah ok i saw the RT nomenclature
[21:19] <philpem> dork: I know Realtek stuff is crap, I have one of their "Gigabit" ethernet chips in my desktop PC... and another four in my server.
[21:19] <dork> haha he called freenode ops on me because he's too slow to read a buffer
[21:19] <dork> philpem: do you know what chipset it has?
[21:19] <philpem> on the desktop, I had to compile the driver from source w/ dkms to get the stupid thing to behave.
[21:19] <joallard> if the kernel ppa has a package 3.1.6-precise, does that mean I can't install it on oneiric?
[21:20] <philpem> dork: the ralink card is RT3062. not sure about the ath based card
[21:20] <philpem> this is the ath-based TPLink:
[21:20] <philpem> http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN951N#spec
[21:20] <dork> lemme check the hardware
[21:20] <dork> stand by
[21:20] <joallard> in other words, does it mean I should install the most recent only on my version?
[21:21] <philpem> seems to be an AR5416 based on the INF file (if I'm reading it right)
[21:21] <Kuwanger> I just bought an nvidia card (geforce 6200...it's an older system).  The nouveau drivers for 10.04 seem to only support 2D.  Is there a way to use backported newer nouveau drivers?
[21:22] <joallard> Let me rephrase: on oneiric, can/should I install kernel ppa package 3.1.6-precise or 3.1.4-oneiric?
[21:22] <gogeta> Kuwanger: cant you just use nividas legicy drivers
[21:22] <gogeta> Kuwanger: so our not using nevu at all
[21:23] <philpem> oh cool, just found a report saying the TPlink works since ubu9.10 in master mode too :3
[21:23] <philpem> that's from 2009 though, so i hope they haven't changed the h/w in the meantime
[21:23] <jutnux> Merry Christmas all!
[21:23] <dork> philpem: it is realtek btw
[21:24] <Kuwanger> gogeta: I just tried that.  But for some reason, the nvidia-graphics-driver.conf blacklist didn't prevent nouveau from loading.  I just wanted to confirm that the open source option wasn't available before moving onto my next issue.
[21:24] <dork> philpem: they opened the source for their drivers recently so i hear but literally everyone who does anything wirelessly in the open source community does it with atheros chipsets
[21:24] <philpem> dork, what's a realtek, the tplink? strange because the drivers are pureblood atheros.
[21:24] <gogeta> Kuwanger: you dont blacklist from there thats why
[21:24] <joallard> on the ppa, should I take 3.1.4 or 3.2-rc4 ?
[21:25] <crazybyte> quit
[21:25] <philpem> dork, the drivers for the edimax card are tagged ralink/mediatek
[21:25] <dork> philpem: based on my research results this is a realtek chip and not atheros
[21:25] <gogeta> Kuwanger: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:25] <dork> philpem: if it is atheros it will probably support mastermode
[21:26] <Gadgets> hi all MERRY CHRISTMAS :D
[21:26] <dork> philpem: my best routers are eeepc netbooks because asus populates their machines with atheros, good stuff
[21:26] <philpem> dork, which card, and where did you find that out?
[21:26] <dork> Gadgets: happy holidays
[21:26] <Kuwanger> gogeta: Well, I'm not the one who made the config file. :/  So, I just manually append nvidia-graphics-driver.conf?
[21:27] <gogeta> Kuwanger: no you blacklist the driver from there reboot the nivida driver works
[21:27] <dork> philpem: can you pastebin an lspci?
[21:27] <philpem> dork: i haven't bought the card yet
[21:27] <gogeta> Kuwanger: just add nouveau there when you install the nivida drivers
[21:28] <Kuwanger> gogeta: That's what I meant, append to blacklist.conf.
[21:28] <philpem> dork: I said earlier: "I'm planning to buy a card for my home server so i can get rid of the edimax gateway that keeps suffering power supply blowouts"
[21:28] <gogeta> Kuwanger: yep
[21:28] <gogeta> Kuwanger: you where just using the wrong file
[21:29] <gogeta> Kuwanger: why it kept loading
[21:29] <dork> philpem: oh ok
[21:29] <Kuwanger> gogeta: Um..again, I didn't make the file.  nvidia-glx-185 or whatever did.
[21:29] <dork> philpem: i don't know for sure but i would recommend a dongle with an atheros chip
[21:29] <philpem> hmm
[21:29] <dork> philpem: pastebin an lspci
[21:29] <gogeta> Kuwanger: well simply add nouveau to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:29] <gogeta> Kuwanger: you will be golden
[21:29] <Kuwanger> gogeta: Right, I did.
[21:30] <gogeta> Kuwanger: install nivida driver reboot
[21:30] <gogeta> Kuwanger: kernel need to reload
[21:30] <philpem> dork: again -- don't have the card yet.
[21:30] <dork> oh right
[21:30] <observer__> how do I open a file as root in Ubuntu?
[21:30] <dork> sorry i'm christmas drunk
[21:31] <Gadgets> goo man dork :D
[21:31] <Gadgets> *GOOD
[21:31] <dork> Gadgets: what's up?
[21:31] <philpem> dork, apparently it's AR5008 according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/38667/network-really-slow-with-tl-wn951n-wireless-card
[21:31] <Gadgets> hristmas drunk im with yah
[21:31] <Gadgets> :)
[21:31] <dork> hehe
[21:31] <dork> philpem: ok hold on let me dig in more
[21:33] <philpem> 168C : 0023 / AR5008 Wireless Adapter. known flaky on several OSes.
[21:33] <dork> philpem: it's realtek
[21:34] <dork> philpem: if it really requires rt3562sta module it is realtek
[21:34] <baktrak> hey what program can i use to partition in ubuntu
[21:34] <dork> philpem: they're big in the game but like i said they havent been open source friendly until about 8 months ago, and like i said atheros is the defacto standard as far as unix/linux based radio equipment goes
[21:34] <mongy> observer__, sudo whatever or sudo -i then your command
[21:34] <dork> i've worked with atheros for 7 years as a network engineer and i strongly suggest you go with atheros over realtek
[21:35] <dork> baktrak: gparted
[21:35] <philpem> dork: RT*L* is realtek. RT is ralink.
[21:35] <observer__> mongy: I'm trying to change grub in /etc/default but when i tried "sudo grub" it responded with "sudo: grub: command not found"
[21:35] <philpem> ralink have been OSS friendly since the RT2800 and RT61 days.
[21:35] <dork> philpem: the module for that card is a realtek module
[21:36] <baktrak> whats the cmd to get it in term
[21:36] <dork> it's realtek afaik
[21:36] <mongy> observer__, sudo pico /etc/default/grub or gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[21:36] <dork> philpem: i may be wrong but all of my search results suggest realtek, either way atheros is where it's at
[21:36] <dork> especially for home brew APs
[21:36] <philpem> dork: which card is realtek?
[21:37] <philpem> can you post one or two search results?
[21:37] <observer__> mongy: can I just type "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub"?
[21:37] <dork> the module that the card you are considering to buy, is a realtek module
[21:37] <philpem> the TL-WN851 is realtek, I know that. 951 is supposed to be atheros.
[21:37] <dork> philpem: just double check it but i didn't come across that, if it's atheros it's good to go probably
[21:38] <mongy> observer__, it's not advised..  sudo for shell apps and gksu/gksudo for gui apps
[21:38] <Kuwanger> Well, I have "blacklist nouveau" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but nouveau is still loading.
[21:38] <observer__> mongy: okay, thank you so much for your help
[21:39] <mongy> observer__, it will work, but you risk problems
[21:39] <mongy> observer__,  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[21:40] <baktrak> how do u get gparted i did sudo apt-get install gparted ntfsprogs menu ntfs-config and nothing happens
[21:40] <guntbert> observer__: using only sudo for a GUI app may make X unavailable for your user
[21:40] <dork> baktrak: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search gparted
[21:40] <philpem> dork: ok, http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN951N#spec --> hit the download link, you get atheros drivers. "(C) 20xx Atheros" all over the place.
[21:40] <mongy> dork, not that it matters much, but you dont need sudo for apt-cache :)
[21:41] <baktrak> ty
[21:41] <dork> baktrak: also, there is another fdisk clone that can handle GPT labels called gdisk
[21:41] <philpem> dork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsEdimax says the EW7722IN is ralink based
[21:41] <dork> baktrak: i use gdisk over gparted but it isn't in a lot of repositories
[21:41] <philpem> also, amazon reviews suggest the TPLink card has major issues with the RF amp, meaning signal strength is, quite bluntly, "crap"
[21:41] <baktrak> dork
[21:41] <baktrak> it says
[21:41] <mongy> dork,  what is gdisk ?  never heard of it
[21:42] <baktrak> 72% [Connecting to packages.freecontrib.org (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[21:42] <baktrak> still sittin there
[21:42] <dork> baktrak: go google all of those chipset nomenclatures
[21:42] <dork> baktrak: all of them are realtek
[21:42] <dork> err
[21:42] <dork> philpem
[21:43] <philpem> dork, you're mixing up the prefixes.
[21:43] <oCean> baktrak: are you using Backtrack?
[21:43] <philpem> RTL is Realtek's prefix.
[21:43] <dork> philpem: seriously, it doesn't matter what their brand name is, any wifi chipset is going to come down to realtek or atheros
[21:43] <baktrak> no no
[21:43] <baktrak> lol
[21:43] <baktrak> ubuntu 10.04
[21:43] <oCean> baktrak: but with an unsupported repo? freecontrib.org
[21:44] <dork> philpem: if you cross reference those chipsets on the internet, they allllll come down to realtek
[21:44] <dork> philpem: every last one of them
[21:44] <dork> that's just how it is
[21:44] <dork> same with OEM systems and everything else, one man's whitebox with another man's brand
[21:45] <philpem> dork: realtek != ralink
[21:45] <dork> then buy it i don't care, but ralink == rt chipsets
[21:45] <philpem> dork: realtek are a half-rate ethernet chip maker who managed to build a chip the BSD dev team described as "redefines the meaning of low end"
[21:45] <dork> feel free to prove me wrong though :P
[21:46] <philpem> dork: I have a laptop sitting next to me with a Ralink chipset. I've had the wifi card out. Two ralink chips, no Realtek silicon outside of the GbE module.
[21:46] <dork> philpem: RA is another company that takes other people's guts and puts their name on it
[21:46] <omido> yeah
[21:46] <dork> it's extremely common especially in the RF industry
[21:46] <dork> it is a realtek chipset
[21:46] <dork> i would bet money on it
[21:47] <dork> it's either realtek or atheros and your option is not atheros
[21:48] <dork> philpem: it isn't even that profound, if you google the module used for that brand of dongle it's a realtek module
[21:48] <dork> all of them
[21:48] <dork> every last thing they make
[21:49] <philpem> dork: and yet the PCI ID, drivers and every other bit of data from edimax says Ralink.
[21:49] <philpem> (Ralink == Mediatek now, but still)
[21:50] <philpem> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-844599.html
[21:50] <philpem> PCI ID Ralink / 0601
[21:51] <dork> philpem: the ln is a dead giveaway
[21:51] <daftykins> http://www.wowza.com/ - anyone come across this crashing on any ubuntu version?
[21:51] <philpem> it's "in" (capital I, not lower-case L)
[21:51] <dork> the very first post of the url you pasted has the following reference
[21:51] <dork> make
[21:51] <dork> cp RT2860STA.dat /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/RT2870STA.dat
[21:51] <dork> make install
[21:51] <dork> modprobe rt2860sta
[21:51] <FloodBot1> dork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:52] <dork> now go google rt2860sta
[21:52] <dork> realtek
[21:52] <dork> it's a realtek chip
[21:52] <daftykins> that sucker rings a bell
[21:53] <mneptok> dork: feel free to use the period and comma keys on your keyboard. address the inputline to the user in question and take as long as it takes to get complete thoughts out. pasting makefile output is a really bad idea.
[21:53] <dork> nah i'm good
[21:53] <dork> thanks
[21:54] <philpem> dork -- quoting wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta -- 23 Nov 2011 – rt2860sta is a module for the Ralink RT2700P[D]/RT2700E[D]/RT2800P[D]/RT2800E[D] and RT3000E[D] PCI 802.11 draft-n wireless LAN ...
[21:54] <mneptok> dork: channel guidelines dictate such behavior.
[21:54] <mneptok> !enter | dork
[21:54] <dork> mneptok: i was never consulted with when the guidelines were written
[21:54] <dork> philpem: checking
[21:54] <mneptok> dork: neither was i. yet i follow them. feel free to discuss this furhter in #ubuntu-ops.
[21:55] <oCean> philpem: do you really need to continue that discussion here in a support channel? If you guys don't agree, then accept that and move on
[21:55] <dork> mneptok: nope, i'm good
[21:55] <dork> thanks though for the offer
[21:55] <philpem> oCean: point taken. I will entertain no further discussion on the subject.
[21:55] <msterbrewer> anyone here?
[21:55] <Eximius_> How do i effectively use dual internets?
[21:55] <dork> philpem: they're addressing the name brand, not the chipsets
[21:56] <philpem> msterbrewer, nobody here but us chickens :)
[21:56] <oCean> philpem: thanks. Feel free to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[21:56] <dork> yah he's right
[21:56] <Gadgets-AFK> yes msterbrewer
[21:56] <dork> hehe apparently the ops in this channel, want to keep the community ignorant
[21:57] <philpem> worst case i have to send one card back and buy the other from amazon...
[21:57] <dork> philpem: check pm
[21:57] <oCean> dork: no, we want to keep the channel on topic, I even offered an other channel where you can educate the community if you like
[21:58] <dork> oCean: pretty sure consulting with new users on what window managers are best suited for their needs, and conversation on wireless chipsets are on topic
[21:58] <dork> you might not agree
[21:58] <dork> but the end user begs to differ
[21:58] <oCean> dork: correct I don't agree. We have several channels, this channel is not suited for all topics
[21:59] <dustin_> is this a help channel?
[21:59] <dork> oCean: i was hoping i would help people with problems, it doesn't occur very often here
[21:59] <dork> dustin_: nope
[21:59] <dork> dustin_: no help allowed here apparently
[22:00] <oCean> dustin_: sure, don't mind the other user
[22:00] <Flannel> dustin_: this is the Ubuntu support channel, yes.
[22:00] <DarkStar1> Whenever I right click on something the context menu comes up but disappears the second I try to choose a menu. Anyone know what's causing this?
[22:00] <Gadgets-AFK> pfffft
[22:00] <dustin_> oh good because the person I met here earlier finaly got help when I pulled him out of channel and helped him so thank you
[22:02] <DarkStar1> I'm guessing no one else has experienced this
[22:03] <MerryResistance> DarkStar1:  you need some patience, you sometimes have to wait a while to get support
[22:03] <DarkStar1> Another thing can anyone give me the open DNS ip pls? my dns seems to have gone down
[22:05] <edbian> DarkStar1, from memory: <IP_ADDRESS> is google.  Looking up openDNS now
[22:05] <urlin2u> DarkStar1, <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:05] <DarkStar1> thx
[22:05] <edbian> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:06] <edbian> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:06] <FloodBot1> edbian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <edbian> oh quiet you
[22:06] <MerryResistance> edbian:  urlin beat you to it
[22:06] <edbian> darn!
[22:06] <mongy> googles is a little quicker for me
[22:07] <MerryResistance> yeah i use google's DNS, level3's DNS, and then ISP-provided DNS in that order :P
[22:10] <yabai> aren't you worried about privacy using google's dns?
[22:10] <Vince1980> !list
[22:10] <Vince1980> ciao
[22:11] <Vince1980> !list
[22:11] <torini> hi ya'll
[22:12] <edbian> Torianna, hi
[22:12] <edbian> torini, hi
[22:12] <torini> here's what I did. I'm at my family's home and I updated their firefox from 3 to 9. The problem is, it's in english and they need german version. Anyone knows how to change it?
[22:12] <torini> I wouldn't bother you, bit I'm running out of time.
[22:12] <Guest20077> hello
[22:13] <tewecske> my 2 years old son fell on my laptop and this is the result: http://pastebin.com/WkBPsy8g does anyone have any idea what should I do?
[22:13] <edbian> torini, it's in the GUI config in Firefox
[22:13] <Guest20077> Wondering if I install 10.04 LTS, and upgrade to 11.10 will I still have old GNOME desktop, or will it be replaced by Unity?  Thanks
[22:13] <Resistance> tewecske:  have a technician test your hard drive perhaps?
[22:13] <avansledright> @tewecske replace the hard drive
[22:14] <xangua> Guest20077: unity runs on top of gnome
[22:14] <edbian> torini, edit -> preferences -> content
[22:14] <cordyceps> can somebody tell me what's wrong with this Makefile http://paste.ubuntu.com/782751/? It keeps giving me the following error: "install -s -m 0755 anclock `pkg-config /usr/lib/xscreensaver/ gnome-screensaver` install: missing destination file operand after `anclock'"  The commented parts are original, the author of the program says to modify the Makefile to suit. I thought that is what I did ;(
[22:14] <edbian> Guest20077, it will be replaced by unity
[22:14] <xangua> torini: did you use the firefos stable ppa¿
[22:14] <Guest20077> will I still be able to log in to Gnome? or will I have to install it again?
[22:15] <xangua> Guest20077: you can also use gnome-shell if that is what you ask
[22:15] <torini> edbian but it says ...for displaying pages and what I need is that "File" would be called "Datai" and stuff like that.
[22:15] <torini> xangua, yes.
[22:15] <torini> firefox-stable from ppa.
[22:16] <Guest20077> I have installed 11.10, and am unhappy with UNity.  Would like to run current version with old Gnome 2 desktop
[22:16] <xangua> !gnome2 | Guest20077
[22:17] <torini> Guest, you can install gnome calssic, then during log in, clock options and log into calssic one.
[22:17] <torini> *clik, pick, you know....
[22:17] <Resistance> tewecske:  btw, notice the Pre_fail counts...
[22:18] <Resistance> tewecske:  that indicates the drive *might* be failing...
[22:18] <Resistance> tewecske:  i'd recommend replacing the drive and having someone try and recover your /home/ folder
[22:18] <ylmfos> hii
[22:18] <torini> do I have to uninstall it(firefox) and download german version?
[22:18] <Guest20077> I have done that, and it looks close to old GNOME, but I have no system option in the upper left, and cannot change the top bar to customize or add items like Gnome 2
[22:18] <Resistance> torini:  you should just be able to install German language support
[22:18] <Resistance> for ffox
[22:19] <tewecske> Resistance: thx
[22:19] <torini> you know how?
[22:19] <paulsomebody> Greetings. Can anyone provide help with the syntax of the sudoers file?
[22:19] <xangua> torini: if you installed it from the ppa and have german language on your desktop,, it should use the german language; did you already check for aviable languages on the Addon tabt¿
[22:19] <paulsomebody> I cannot seem to get it right.
[22:19] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  yeah, whatcha need/want?
[22:20] <overdose> .org
[22:20] <Guest20077> is there a way to get old system menu next to applications and places in UNity
[22:20] <avansledright> anyone know how to install google chrome on 11.04? the .deb file doesnt seem to work
[22:20] <Resistance> overdose:  can we help you at all?
[22:20] <torini> xangua where in addon?
[22:20] <mongy> paulsomebody, sudo usermod -a -G admin username will add you to the sudoers
[22:20] <paulsomebody> My current contents look like this, but I am getting an error, claiming that there is a syntax error near line 27. http://paste.ubuntu.com/782772/
[22:20] <Resistance> avansledright:  did you try chromium
[22:20] <overdose> ys
[22:20] <overdose> yes
[22:20] <xangua> torini: on the addon tab
[22:20] <avansledright> not yet. i wanted actual chrome
[22:20] <Guest20077> or gnome classic sorry...
[22:20] <overdose> I recently installed 10.04 and now my menu bar at the top is missing
[22:21] <overdose> it's an older machine, and I liiked the flow of 10.x
[22:21] <paulsomebody> Resistance: I need to enable user 'somebody' to run file 'usr/local/bin/envrouter' or command 'envrouter' as root without entering the password every time.
[22:21] <torini> in tools menu? What should I look for?
[22:21] <xangua> !panels | overdose
[22:21] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  i'm not sure if that's possible...
[22:21] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  lemme dig out my sudoers reference'
[22:21] <paulsomebody> Resistance: Is it not what this file is for?
[22:22] <overdose> resistance: lemme try, fortunately I was able to config vino before it went missing :)
[22:22] <paulsomebody> Resistance: Yes, of course. That would be very welcome.
[22:22] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  i'm not sure you can specify it per file... but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Remove_Password_Prompt_For_sudo
[22:23] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  NOTICE!!!!!  ***THIS PUTS YOUR SYSTEM AT HORRIBLY EXTREME RISK!!!***
[22:23] <Guest20077> is there a way to get old gnome style (Applications Places AND System)in Gnome 3  I only have Applications and Places.
[22:23] <paulsomebody> Resistance: I am not trying to remove all the password promts, just for this single command.
[22:23] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  I STRONGLY RECOMMEND you do not disable the passcode for that user, but the sudo reference doesnt explain any way of removing sudo requirements per file
[22:23] <xangua> Guest20077: again, gnome2 is no longer maintained
[22:24] <paulsomebody> Resistance: It is okay. I think I understand the syntax now. Thanks for the reference.
[22:24] <Resistance> yep
[22:24] <Guest20077> i would like to have a system menu option in upper left on Gnome 3.is this possible?
[22:24] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  also...
[22:24] <Resistance> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19236.html
[22:25] <torini> xanuga in tools menu? What should I look for?
[22:25] <Resistance> there's example potential syntax here to allow the cdrom group to run a command without passcode: %cdrom ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/k3b
[22:26] <overdose> also, is there an easy way to run xllvnc with lubuntu
[22:26] <overdose> I can get it to prompt for passwdfor the vnc session, bnut always rejects it (and I have checked caps locks, etc)
[22:26] <Guest20077> I support a number of friends installs of ubuntu, and it is hard to explain where a setting is when they do not have system available in menu.
[22:26] <paulsomebody> Resistance: I have got it all right now. I have changed the needed line to 'somebody ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/evrouter' and I am asked for password if I try to run, say 'sudo nautilus', but not 'sudo evrouter'.
[22:27] <Resistance> :)
[22:27] <Resistance> there you go
[22:27] <Resistance> ooh i should do that for iptables on my local machine and ifconfig xD
[22:27] <Resistance> and aptitude xD
[22:27] <shah`> sudo helloall
[22:27] <torini> xanuga you there?
[22:27] <shah`> ;]
[22:27]  * Resistance has a horribly secure system
[22:28] <mongy> Resistance, you have windows?
[22:28] <paulsomebody> Resistance: Thanks for the help. Hopefully, I do not now have equally 'secure' system.
[22:28] <mongy> :)
[22:28] <paulsomebody> Resistance: Since that command is harmless, and the user account is password-protected.
[22:29] <Resistance> mongy:  no.  why?
[22:29] <arrrghhh> StevenR: still there?
[22:29] <arrrghhh> if not, i'll reask my question.  fresh install of ubuntu 11.10. kernel panics on a normal boot, but if i go thru recovery mode and then "resume normal boot", i can boot in fine and operate normally.  what gives?
[22:29] <Resistance> paulsomebody:  :)
[22:30] <paulsomebody> Resistance: Thank again, I will now test it by fire… I meant, by reboot.
[22:30] <Star_Light> .
[22:30] <Guest20077> Thanks all!  Happy Holidays!
[22:31] <torini> ok, I'll put it another way. How to remove firefox 9 completely without damaging anything. The software center will do the job?
[22:31] <overdose> thank you resistance, the first issue was resolved, secondly is there a way to have that ran each boot, or should it be cool now?
[22:31] <arrrghhh> torini: i don't see why it wouldn't, it's just another front end for dpkg/apt
[22:32] <Resistance> overdose:  have what run each boot...?
[22:32] <torini> cause I started searching for that and found something that showed some problems.... I don't know
[22:32] <torini> so you say it's safe?
[22:33] <jnwhiteh> I'm having an issue with HDMI sound output under 11.10 on my Thinkpad x121e. The sound works, but is choppy, such that watching a youtube video gives a second of sound or two, followed by a few seconds of silence.. and back and forth. A search of the ubuntu forums/general internet doesn't quite give me any information. Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:33] <arrrghhh> torini: i'm not sure what you mean by "safe".  why do you want to remove FireFox?
[22:33] <torini> I need to remove it to install it again, but in german...
[22:33] <overdose> that CLI you gave me
[22:33] <overdose> to restart gnome panel
[22:34] <arrrghhh> torini: you shouldn't need to reinstall it to get the german version.  i'm no expert on that tho, i always use engrish.
[22:34] <xangua> torini: did you already check the languages aviables on the Addons tab¿
[22:34] <overdose> because it seems that without that, the menuu never appears
[22:34] <StevenR> arrrghhh: can we see the messages? could you take a photo?
[22:34] <xangua> torini: do you have other languages besides german on your system¿ is your user session on german¿
[22:34] <overdose> fortunaly I had also installed open ssh server so I was able to run it
[22:35] <arrrghhh> StevenR: a photo of...? the screen is blank completely when the kernel panics. there's nothing to see on the screen.  i'll pull some logs if you think they're available.
[22:35] <torini> yes, he is.
[22:35] <StevenR> arrrghhh: oh. hmm.. can you boot with nosplash or whatever the parameter is?
[22:35] <torini> The whole ubuntu is in german exept for the firefox now.
[22:35] <torini> xanuga The whole ubuntu is in german exept for the firefox now.
[22:35] <Seveas> torini, you don't need to reinstall firefox to change language, installing the firefox-locale-de package should be enough
[22:36] <arrrghhh> StevenR: sure, i'll try that.  just modify grub.cfg?
[22:36] <GatorAlli> Hello, I'm trying to run rabbitmq-server on Ubuntu. When I run "sudo rabbitmq-server start", I get a no such user error because of the dash. Can I escape the dash to get it to run? [16:35] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu
[22:36] <wiredvamp> i cant seem to get the radio on pandora.com to work
[22:36] <torini> Seveas with aptget install?
[22:36] <Seveas> torini, yeah
[22:36] <torini> hmm, ok, I'll try it.
[22:37] <StevenR> arrrghhh: I think you can specify it via the grub-cli while booting
[22:37] <overdose> basically I have downloaded and installed x11vnc, (replaicing vino) and can't get the vnc session to stick
[22:37] <arrrghhh> StevenR: ok.  1 sec
[22:37] <overdose> it will prompt for vnc passwd, but will never connect
[22:37] <GatorAlli> Hello, I'm trying to run rabbitmq-server on Ubuntu. When I run "sudo rabbitmq-server start", I get a no such user error because of the dash. Can I escape the dash to get it to run?
[22:37] <arrrghhh> !patience | GatorAlli
[22:38] <arrrghhh> StevenR: so remove quiet and change splash to nosplash right?
[22:38] <GatorAlli> ubottu: plz make ur IRC server recognize my password faster, then we can negotiate
[22:38] <GatorAlli> lol
[22:38] <StevenR> arrrghhh: probably. sounds like that should work
[22:39] <torini> Seveas so simple! Thank you so much!!
[22:40] <arrrghhh> StevenR: not sure what that did, but it's booting.  i didn't see ANY text.  just the same blank screen.  then i saw a mouse cursor, and heard the login sound... but now it's hung at the desktop.  i have a background and a mouse.... that's it.
[22:41] <arrrghhh> i almost wish i could prove this is hardware and call it a day.
[22:41] <StevenR> arrrghhh: hmm. could be that the splash is the kicker
[22:41] <jsumners> Where can I find a Jaunty repository? I evidently can't update to a newer release without one
[22:41] <arrrghhh> StevenR: but i still don't have a functional UI. it's hung again.
[22:41] <arrrghhh> StevenR: well i guess no kernel panic so that's an improvement lol
[22:41] <Zanny> Hello, how do i install iTunes to get my iPhone 4 with iOs5 to work, under Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:41] <xangua> !eol | jsumners
[22:42] <Seveas> jsumners, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[22:42] <arrrghhh> Zanny: iTunes doesn't have a linux port.
[22:42] <xangua> Zanny: it should work with banshee, did you already try with gtkpod¿
[22:42] <torini> Zanny, have you tried to connect your iphone to ubuntu/
[22:42] <jsumners> thank you
[22:42] <arrrghhh> Zanny: there's ways around it, but they're not "complete" like iTunes. you won't be able to do software updates, etc.
[22:42] <smiffel> hi there, ubuntu11.10, problems with VPN, can't connect with shrew soft client (iked) to fritzbox. same config with shrewsoft on win works.
[22:43] <Seveas> !iphine | Zanny
[22:43] <paulsomebody> Resistance: Thank you, works all right.
[22:43] <Seveas> !iphone | Zanny
[22:43] <arrrghhh> StevenR: lots of segfaults when i switch tty's.
[22:43] <torini> Seveas thanks again. Take care guys!
[22:43] <arrrghhh> StevenR: is there a way i can check the hdd from a live usb/cd?
[22:44] <Seveas> arrrghhh, lots of segfaults generally means "I've run out of memory" or "My memory is broken"
[22:45] <arrrghhh> Seveas: memtests turn up clean.  i'm leaning towards hdd, but i honestly don't have a clue.
[22:45] <SunTsu> Seveas: or the application is
[22:45] <StevenR> arrrghhh: what's segfaulting?
[22:45] <arrrghhh> this machine just mysteriously stopped working after a kernel upgrade.
[22:45] <Seveas> arrrghhh, run from a livecd and run fsck on it
[22:45] <arrrghhh> StevenR: i see something called duplicity segfaulting?
[22:45] <arrrghhh> Seveas: ok
[22:46] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: if you have segfaults on a box doing swappign chances are that your hdd is faulty and therefore your swap is, too
[22:46] <arrrghhh> Seveas: i just find it odd that everything "seems" to work fine if i go thru recovery mode.
[22:46] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: i se
[22:46] <Seveas> arrrghhh, does 'free -m' say you have free memory?
[22:46] <arrrghhh> Seveas: rebooting
[22:46] <arrrghhh> going to liveusb to do fsck
[22:47] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: if that's the case you might want to look at S.M.A.R.T. info of that disk
[22:47] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: is that installed by default?
[22:48] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: S.M.A.R.T. is part of the disk itself, smarttools might, I don't know
[22:48] <arrrghhh> lol
[22:48] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: ok
[22:48] <arrrghhh> i think the hdd is done.
[22:48] <Seveas> smartmontools
[22:48] <arrrghhh> fsck from liveusb - "input/output error while determing wheter /dev/sda3 is mounted"
[22:48] <SunTsu> Seveas: yeah, thanks, that's how they are called
[22:48] <Seveas> arrrghhh, that sounds like you need a new disk indeed
[22:49] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: that sounds nasty
[22:49] <arrrghhh> so i can't fsck this thing.
[22:49] <arrrghhh> SunTsu, Seveas, strange that winxp still works fine on the same disk?
[22:49] <arrrghhh> think i can pillage the entire hdd and be ok...?  perhaps just the section ubuntu on is bad?
[22:49] <paulsomebody> Can anyone help me bind several key presses to one mouse button via xinput?
[22:49] <cxcmzyz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKJClrSSmGM
[22:49] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: well, some parts go first. I'd still check smartmontools for the error log
[22:50] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: it's not installed.
[22:50] <Seveas> arrrghhh, you can install it when booted from the livecd
[22:50] <arrrghhh> i'm connected to the internet, but have no internet.  wth.
[22:51] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: no smartctl?
[22:51] <arrrghhh> Seveas: yea thanks. this is a persistent liveusb, so that should work too.
[22:51] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: oh let me try that one.  i was doing smartmontools
[22:51] <ubuntunovice> hey everyone
[22:51] <ubuntunovice> i was wondering
[22:51] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: that's the package's name
[22:51] <Seveas> arrrghhh, smartmontools is the package name, not the tool's name
[22:51] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: nope.  "sma<tab>" turns up nada.
[22:51] <ubuntunovice> im trying to create a bootable usb
[22:51] <Seveas> !enter | ubuntunovice
[22:51] <ubuntunovice> K SRRY
[22:51] <SunTsu> ubuntunovice: I am wondering if you can lines consisting of more than three words
[22:52] <ubuntunovice> yes
[22:52] <SunTsu> "create" even
[22:52] <arrrghhh> sma<tab><tab> also turns up nothing.  going to resolve my internet problem.
[22:52] <ubuntunovice> im on a mac
[22:52] <arrrghhh> ah, it's a dns problem.
[22:52] <ubuntunovice> if that helps any
[22:53] <SunTsu> ubuntunovice: thing is: if we need to search your question over multiple line, chances are we won't
[22:53] <xangua> ubuntunovice: did you follow the instructions at ubuntu.com ¿
[22:53] <ubuntunovice> i didnt know there were any
[22:53] <mega73> sconnect
[22:53] <ubuntunovice> can you point me in the right direction?
[22:54] <xangua> ubuntunovice: ubuntu.com , get ubuntu
[22:54] <Seveas> ubuntunovice, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Mac_OSX
[22:54] <arrrghhh> crap, i can't modify resolv.conf on a persistent usb boot?  it's saying i can't save the file...
[22:54] <ubuntunovice> thanks seveas
[22:54] <ubuntunovice> i will look there and get back to you
[22:55] <arrrghhh> so any tips on getting dns to work on a liveusb boot?  for whatever reason i'm connected via wifi using dhcp, but dns is not working at all.  i can't seem to modify (or create) /etc/resolv.conf...
[22:57] <teratoma> how do i increase the number of Workspaces ?
[22:57] <overdose> teratoma, which release?
[22:57] <OY1R> can anyone watch this in full screen with out it being slow as poo ? > http://www.dr.dk/nu/popup/od/bonderoeven/#/19941
[22:57] <teratoma> unity2d... oneiric
[22:57] <overdose> is that 11.x?
[22:58] <paulsomebody> OY1R: I can.
[22:58] <bfrazier_> I got a problem, I'm trying to burn a DVD & I'm trying to use the following command, "growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video DVD" but I'm getting, ":-( /dev/dvd: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"...any ideas how to fix this?
[22:58] <ubuntunovice> would it be easier to use windows to create the live usb?
[22:58] <OY1R> paulsomebody, how about fully windowed ?
[22:58] <wiredvamp> what is the command to udate a prgram, for example i would like to update firefox
[22:58] <paulsomebody> OY1R: Fully windowed?
[22:58] <teratoma> overdose: Ubuntu 11.10
[22:58] <ubuntunovice> sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:58] <OY1R> yea your browser maximized
[22:59] <arrrghhh> ubuntunovice: it is pretty easy.  pendrivelinux.com has a universal installer for windows, makes it very easy.
[22:59] <kerim> hii my broadcom wireless is very slow help me please
[22:59] <OY1R> paulsomebody, if i play it maximized it's very very jerky, and if i try full screen it seems to play fine but the full frame is better than the screen (stream seems bigger than the monitor)
[22:59] <wiredvamp> ubuntunovice: thanks
[23:00] <kerim> example ping <IP_ADDRESS>    269,5 ms
[23:00] <ubuntunovice> np
[23:00] <ubuntunovice> yw
[23:00] <Seveas> teratoma, install compizconfig-settings-manager and run ccsm
[23:00] <Seveas> it's in the general settings
[23:00] <ubuntunovice> i will open vmware
[23:00] <arrrghhh> kerim: other clients are OK?  (it's not the router/network in other words?)
[23:00] <overdose> teratoma, basically what I am seeing is that the direction to take it to replace gnome with openbox
[23:00] <ubuntunovice> and do it in windows
[23:00] <paulsomebody> OY1R: I am sorry, but I have no idea. My guess would be trying that in different browsers, maybe checking if you have hardware acceleration enabled.
[23:01] <arrrghhh> StevenR, SunTsu - any ideas for DNS on liveusb...?  i'm trying to install smartmontools, and i have net access but dns is failing, and /etc/resolv.conf doesn't exist nor does it let me create it...
[23:01] <overdose> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[23:01] <kerim> For windows ping no problem
[23:01] <kerim> only for ubuntu problem
[23:02] <arrrghhh> kerim: you're on the newest drivers?  you have ensured there aren't any proprietary drivers?  broadcom is notoriously bad...
[23:02] <wiredvamp> i cant seem to get the radio on pandora.com to work, what do i have to do to get pandora.com to work?
[23:02] <arrrghhh> wiredvamp: flash installed?
[23:02] <kerim> ı don't know
[23:02] <ubuntunovice> you need to install broadcom restricted drivers
[23:03] <arrrghhh> kerim: i would make sure.
[23:03] <kerim> how can install new drivers
[23:03] <overdose> teratoma: strike that, it appears cntrl, alt, tab will switch workspaces
[23:03] <overdose> give it a try and let me know if it works
[23:03] <overdose> :)
[23:03] <nardev> I made mobile web page at http://www.domain.com/mobile/{rest of url} and i want to have http://mobile.domain.com/{rest of url}    and it' important to mention that stipendije.ba/mobile   <-- mobile is not folder!!!
[23:03] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: I don't know, never used that. You tried sudo when creating that file I guess?
[23:03] <xangua> wiredvamp: i believe you need sivlerlight, not aviable for linux
[23:03] <arrrghhh> kerim: go to system settings -> additional drivers
[23:03] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: yes :P
[23:03] <ubuntunovice> try moonlight
[23:04] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: i've never had a problem with this either.  it seems this laptop really doesn't want to get fixed.
[23:04] <wiredvamp> i was using pandora on mint, and fedora and it worked fine on those os's
[23:04] <arrrghhh> xangua: not true.
[23:05] <arrrghhh> wiredvamp: i'm pretty sure Pandora is flash.  if you use firefox, there's a great addon called "flashaid" that will take care of the dirty work for you.
[23:06] <kerim_> my drivers is new
[23:06] <wiredvamp> i thought i installed adobe flash but it is not showing up in the plugin section on firefox
[23:06] <kerim_> and active
[23:06] <arrrghhh> kerim_: that's all that can really be done then.  broadcom has atrocious support for linux.
[23:06] <arrrghhh> wiredvamp: look into flashaid in addons for FF.  it's awesome ;)
[23:06] <kerim_> what can ı do
[23:07] <mongy> arrrghhh, not really.  working fine since 8.04
[23:07] <wiredvamp> ok thanks arrrghhh
[23:07] <arrrghhh> kerim_: i just said you can't do anything.  get a different wireless card from a manufacturer that supports open source.
[23:07] <arrrghhh> mongy: eh?
[23:07] <kerim_> thank you
[23:07] <SunTsu> arrrghhh: sorry, no idea, I really don't know liveusb and no time to look into that
[23:08] <arrrghhh> SunTsu: np.  it should just work over dhcp. this laptop is just FUBAR it sems.
[23:08] <arrrghhh> seems*
[23:09] <mongy> kerim,  what chipset do you have.   lspci | grep Network
[23:10] <arrrghhh> mongy: if you're talking about broadcom, then you're wrong.  i've had many new laptops that don't work _at all_ because of incomplete or non-existent drivers.
[23:10] <mongy> arrrghhh, I cay the opposite.
[23:10] <mongy> can say , even
[23:10] <arrrghhh> mongy: then you're wrong :P
[23:11] <arrrghhh> anyone who says broadcom supports linux is either joking, or insane.  or both.
[23:11] <mongy> whatever
[23:11] <arrrghhh> lol
[23:11] <arrrghhh> enjoy
[23:11] <mongy> kerim,  what chipset do you have.   lspci | grep Network
[23:13] <a__> hello, why doesn't windows 7 recognizes ubuntu share unless i loggon into windows with ubuntu and after that windows recognizes samba share?
[23:14] <arrrghhh> a__: are these separate machines on a network?
[23:14] <a__> arrrghhh, yep
[23:14] <arrrghhh> a__: ok what do you mean logon into windows with ubuntu?
[23:16] <a__> arrrghhh, windows 7 doesn't sees ubuntu computer. other machine with windows vista sees ubuntu machine. i can see windows 7 machine in workgroup from ubuntu. windows doesn't sees ubuntu machine in workgroup. windows sees ubuntu machine if i only first access from ubuntu to windows share
[23:16] <arrrghhh> a__: perhaps it's zeroconf?  have you setup hosts files for all the machines, or do you have some centralized method of assigning dns like dnsmasq or bind?
[23:17] <allu2> anyone up for helping me reinstall and fix broken grub, now i'm sitting on live session
[23:17] <sleepyal> can someone help me assign static ips for my network adapters via the command line? or is it in some config file?
[23:18] <a__> arrrghhh, zeroconf?
[23:18] <arrrghhh> allu2: even if you aren't recovering after a windows install, try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:18] <arrrghhh> a__: what are you doing for dns?
[23:18] <fox_> Hey All, First time joining this Channel. Got to thank andrew.46 on his guide!
[23:18] <paulsomebody> allu2: Hello.
[23:18] <allu2> paulsomebody: Hello :)
[23:18]  * allu2 feeling lazy to do rescuing all by himself
[23:19] <paulsomebody> allu2: I have got it to work with the help of '/etc/sudoers' file.
[23:19] <arrrghhh> allu2: then you don't learn anything :P
[23:19] <paulsomebody> allu2: How did you ruin your GRUB?
[23:19] <allu2> arrrghhh: so i open terminal, write sudo -s, run grub-install /dev/(sda etc what happens to be the hd) and hope it works..
[23:19] <arrrghhh> a__: i had similar issues (i think, your problem is a little hard to follow) and i found that dns entries had to be created manually in the hosts file. unless you're going by IP.
[23:20] <arrrghhh> allu2: boot-repair should do it all for ya
[23:20] <allu2> arrrghhh: or i sudo -s, mount some folders and chroot to the hd
[23:20] <allu2> arrrghhh: never heard of that
[23:20] <allu2> arrrghhh: see i learn more by asking ;)
[23:20] <arrrghhh> allu2: please read the link i sent you.