[00:52] <greppy> Mean_Admin: it works for me.
[00:52] <greppy> I have 3 systems using it currently, and have access from my android to it as well.
[00:53] <greppy> haven't tried to set it up without x11, but they have a howto or faq or something for doing that.
[01:37] <malev> hi there! In my server sometimes (more frequently than what I'd like) I start getting this:  [malev@~] free-bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory  what can I do to debug it?
[01:37] <malev> where can I search for the error?
[02:06] <missil> hi all i need server lessons - configuring and setting up virtualization in ubuntu server - struggled to get vms running now i cannot connect to the vms or launch virt-manager due to a gtk error
[02:12] <RoyK> &
[02:27] <qman__> malev, looks like you're out of memory
[02:27] <qman__> check out what's using it with top or a number of other tools
[02:28] <malev> qman__, I'm using it, but check this oout: Mem:    524800k total,   375728k used,   149072k free,        0k buffers
[02:28] <malev> I still have some memory
[02:28] <malev> or 512MB si too low?
[02:29] <qman__> 512MB is low, but if you still have 149MB or so free, that's not the cause here
[02:29] <qman__> have you set limits?
[02:29] <qman__> also, if what you're trying to start needs more memory than what is available, that error would result
[02:29] <malev> qman__, no that I remember, how can I check it?
[02:30] <qman__>  /etc/security/limits.conf or /etc/security/limits.d/
[02:31] <malev> qman__, it's all commented
[02:31] <qman__> check the number of processes as well
[02:32] <qman__> ps aux | wc -l
[02:32] <qman__> should be a few hundred or less
[02:32] <qman__> depending on what you have running
[02:33] <malev> qman__, oks, I'll run ti, but riight now I'm low of memory and I have to restart :)
[02:33] <malev> qman__, you think that with 1Gb of memory I wont have that kind of problems?
[02:34] <qman__> not necessarily
[02:34] <qman__> your memory isn't totally full, which indicates something else is wrong
[02:34] <qman__> without limits set, normally the system won't stop you unless it's literally out of resources
[02:35] <qman__> there may be default limits now, though, I don't know for sure
[02:36] <malev> [malev@~] ps aux | wc -l     ->19
[02:36] <qman__> take note of it when the server starts acting up
[02:37] <qman__> maybe make a script that runs it every few seconds or so and logs it
[02:37] <malev> that's a good idea
[02:38] <qman__> cannot fork; could not allocate memory means that it literally could not acquire resources to fork
[02:38] <qman__> so if you're hitting physical limits, or set limits on memory or processes, that would do it
[02:39] <qman__> finding the culprit is a little more difficult, but not too much
[02:39] <malev> don't know waht is the culprit
[02:42] <malev> qman__, thanks! I really apreciate your help!
[02:42] <qman__> a good way to determine if it's physical or software limits would be to log on with another user
[02:42] <malev> qman__, what is ps aux | wc -l   ?
[02:42] <qman__> as limits are set per user
[02:42] <qman__> ps aux lists all processes, wc -l counts lines
[02:43] <qman__> so it's not an exact number but close enough to figure out what the problem is
[02:43] <malev> qman__, you think in some moment I start to have a lot of proccess working?
[02:44] <qman__> yes, it's possible you're suffering what is effectively a fork bomb
[02:44] <qman__> and that test would show if that's the case
[02:44] <malev> oks! I'm gonna work on that!
[02:44] <qman__> if that number gets huge, in the thousands, that's probably the case
[02:45] <qman__> whether it's malicious or just a misconfiguration or bug though, it won't tell you
[02:45] <qman__> that requires more investigation
[02:47] <qman__> in the process of your investigation, it might be a good idea to leave a root terminal open
[02:48] <qman__> since root is allotted a small reserve of resources for these types of occasions
[02:50] <malev> qman__, oks! i'll
[04:47] <ranger03> how do i upgrade the kernek on ubuntu-server?
[04:47] <ranger03> how do i upgrade the kernel on ubuntu-server?
[04:47] <twb> ranger03: with apt-get, like everything else.
[04:48] <ranger03> apt-get upgrade kernel-imageXXXXX ?
[04:49] <ranger03> apt-get upgrade linux-virtual    <--is that correct ?
[05:26] <Brandon_> I have been looking online on how to setup samba with user home directories (already did this), but I want it so when you type in the username of that directory and the password it connects. I tried doing the valid users = %s but when i try to map it the drive it says its mapped to a different username.
[06:27] <koolhead11> hi all
[06:27] <koolhead11> zul, ping
[06:30] <Macer> hm
[06:31] <koolhead11> hi Macer
[06:52] <ph8> hey all, i'm trying to set my samba permissions right (file level) - i can get read access and write access if I set 777 on the directory, but what group is samba trying to access it as? I see smbd processes running as root and nobody but i've tried chgrp -R'ing the whole share directory to those groups and setting 771 but no read or write!
[07:58] <flowbee> my server got hacked and the vps provider shut it down because it was abusing dns providers or something.  is there a quick setup i can do to secure my box?
[07:58] <flowbee> i.e. what steps do i need (disable root ssh, only allow for key based ssh; changing ssh ports etc)
[07:58] <ebrown> aku
[08:01] <greppy> flowbee: it depends on how they got in.
[08:10] <flowbee> how do i add a user to sudoers file.... so that i have to enter prompt for password
[08:13] <greppy> flowbee: %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:13] <greppy> change %sudo to a username
[08:13] <greppy> %sudo means anyone in the sudo group.
[08:14] <flowbee> got it
[08:21] <twb> Or just "sudo adduser fred sudo"
[08:21] <twb> i.e. add fred to %sudo
[08:22] <twb> I'm not sure if, unspecified, you are always prompted for a password, or if caching is allowed
[08:22] <flowbee> trying to follow this guide http://www.andrewault.net/2010/05/17/securing-an-ubuntu-server/
[08:22] <flowbee> getting to: Restrict access to /bin/su to admin group members:;;; sudo dpkg-statoverride --update --add root admin 4750 /bin/su  => dpkg-statoverride: An override for '/bin/s' already exists, aborting.
[08:22] <twb> flowbee: there's no point locking su, just ensure root doesn't have a password
[08:23] <greppy> flowbee: how did they get in?
[08:24] <flowbee> greppy, i have no idea.  but i did have ssh for root
[08:24] <twb> Oh, he was compromised.  In that case, he should do a fresh install
[08:24] <flowbee> even tho the password was pretty solid
[08:24] <twb> Consider everything on the system compromised unless proven otherwise
[08:24] <greppy> == twb
[08:24] <flowbee> oh i did
[08:24] <twb> flowbee: password-based access should be disabled
[08:24] <flowbee> i wiped it
[08:24] <flowbee> and i'm securing now
[08:25] <flowbee> going to do key based auth only now
[08:25] <flowbee> good luck getting it this time fuckers
[08:25] <flowbee> excuse my french; just upset i got hacked
[08:25] <w00> if you host a vulnerable application they will get back in..
[08:25] <flowbee> and i was referring to hackers; not you guys :)
[08:25] <twb> I also use kernel-based IPS instead of denyhosts/fail2ban
[08:25] <greppy> flowbee: while a good idea to secure auth, it is very likely that they got in through something else.
[08:25] <twb> http://cyber.com.au/~twb/doc/iptab
[08:25] <flowbee> it amazes mee
[08:25] <flowbee> how people can exploit stuff
[08:25] <twb> greppy: yeah, it was probably because he's running fucking phpmyadmin or so
[08:25] <flowbee> no i'm not
[08:26] <flowbee> at least i dont think it is
[08:26] <twb> flowbee: are you running any PHP at all?
[08:26] <greppy> flowbee: I've had boxes compromised because someone had an out of date php calendar app
[08:26] <flowbee> wow
[08:26] <flowbee> i dont run php; unless their ubuntu stack has it installed
[08:26] <greppy> what do you use the box for?
[08:27] <flowbee> LANGUAGE = (unset),LC_ALL = (unset),LANG = "en_CA.utf8"
[08:27] <twb> flowbee: well, good
[08:27] <flowbee> this box will be used to break apart my backend tasks from my webserver
[08:28] <flowbee> cuz my backend tasks are bringing down my web app/mysql instance
[08:28] <twb> What's its IP?  I'll throw openvas at it
[08:28] <flowbee> no php is running
[08:28] <flowbee> twb, one moment let me finish attempting at 'securing it'
[08:28] <flowbee> although given my record
[08:28] <flowbee> not sure how awesome i'll be at it :)
[08:28]  * greppy jumps into the van to go break a switch and a router.
[08:28] <twb> flowbee: pfft, if it has an IP now, it doesn't matter if *I* know it as well
[08:29] <flowbee> haha
[08:29] <twb> greppy: bricked it, eh?
[08:29] <greppy> twb: nah, ROMMON upgrade
[08:29] <greppy> have to be on site.
[08:29] <twb> Bleh
[08:29] <twb> This is why my routers run either ubuntu or openwrt
[08:30] <twb> Well, OK, my procurve is running some Lucky Dragon junk
[08:30] <greppy> ubuntu and/or openwrt don't support the types of interfaces, much less the load
[08:30] <twb> Fair enough
[08:31] <ebrown> hardy heron
[08:31] <ebrown> blankOn
[08:31] <ebrown> Mint
[08:31] <ebrown> Vinux
[08:31] <ebrown> Wkeh wis
[08:31] <flowbee> getting: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[08:31] <flowbee> how do i get my locales working (for aptitude)
[08:33] <jmarsden> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales  # probably
[08:34] <twb> jmarsden: actually for me on Ubuntu it's "locale-gen en_AU.UTF-8; update-locales LANG=en_AU.UTF-8"
[08:34] <twb> Last time I looked Ubuntu did some silly thing where you either did that, or (by default) you got 200MB of English locales for tbird and oo.org on your headless server
[08:34] <flowbee> damn
[08:34] <flowbee> installed ufw and now i cant ssh anymore
[08:34] <flowbee> i thought this guide was supposed to be good
[08:36] <twb> flowbee: if you follow "some guide I found", you are on your own
[08:38] <flowbee> heheh
[08:38] <flowbee> do you folks have a simple firewall your recommend?
[08:38] <twb> flowbee: netfilter
[08:41] <flowbee> is there some weird ssh setup i have going on where i cant log into my box with multiple ssh sessiosn: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[08:46] <Syria> Hello, I want to enable  mod_rewrite ubuntu server 10.4.2
[08:46] <Syria> How can i do this?
[08:47] <ph8> more of a question for ##apache
[08:47] <ph8> but there is good documentation on the internet for this
[08:47] <ph8> look for information about RewriteEngine On
[08:48] <jmarsden> Syria: sudo a2enmod rewrite
[08:49] <Syria> jmarsden Thank you.
[08:49] <jmarsden> Syria: You're welcome
[08:49] <Syria> ph8 thnx :)
[08:52] <ebrown> hahahahahahahahahahahha
[08:52] <ebrown> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[08:56] <twb> flowbee: no, what you've done is drop NEW ssh connections
[08:57] <twb> flowbee: your existing connection is allowed because it was up before you started ufw
[08:58] <flowbee> i'm still getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host even though i'm set up to use key based auth (at least .ssh dir is)
[08:58] <flowbee> and ufw isnt currently running
[09:03] <ebrown> !seen twb
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[09:03] <ebrown> ?
[10:55] <pedrocr>  I just booted a computer after a motherboard swap. It has two raid arrays running over the same 4 disks. The raid5 array apparently resynced and is now working. The raid1 array is working but degraded with only 2 of the 4 disks. all disks seem to have some smart errors on bootup but nothing else. any ideas on what this could be and how to repair the raid1 array?
[11:08] <pedrocr> mdadm --re-add seems to be working
[11:08] <pedrocr> I wonder why this happened at all
[11:09] <pedrocr> I've configured smartmontools now
[11:37] <elijahsh> Hi! I'm configured pppoe client on my 10.04 server. Everything work fine except when my provider lose my connection. Ppp tries reconnect several times and stop with no luck. Where I can change the number of tries and timeout between them?
[14:15] <afeijo> hi guys, I'm trying to setup a dns server in a new server here, I installed bind9 and configured it, it appear to be ok. Do I need to config something in my dsl router and/or the workstations?
[14:16] <afeijo> do I need dhcp at my server?
[14:17] <afeijo> route cmd at my laptop show as default to <IP_ADDRESS>, it should be <IP_ADDRESS> (this is the server ip)
[14:52] <zul> does anyone know why we dont have things like php-imap in main?
[14:59] <lynxman> zul: I think it's because libc-client is in universe as well
[14:59] <zul> lynxman: yeah it should probably change to make the merge easier
[15:01] <lynxman> zul: think so as well, it makes sense
[15:09] <hallyn_> zul: gmornin'!  Were you planning on sending the libvirt patch to send 'container=libvirt' through ENV to the libvirt mailing list?  (If not, I"ll send it, but I don't want to take any of your credit :)
[15:09] <zul> hallyn: i wasnt but go ahead
[15:10] <hallyn_> zul: ok, will do.
[15:10] <_ruben> afeijo: uhm, dns and default routes are pretty much unrelated
[15:12] <lynxman> zul: oh btw is the LXC libvirt problem fixed in natty or still in progress?
[15:13] <zul> lynxman: well uds was last week so...still in progress ;)
[15:13] <lynxman> zul: fair point :D
[15:14] <lynxman> zul: tbh I'm still suffering from UDS, hardly productive today
[15:14] <hallyn_> zul: don't suppose you're bored and wnating to implement debian networking support for netcf?  :-)
[15:14] <zul> lynxman: hah your flight wasnt as long as some people ;)
[15:15] <hallyn_> It should've been on uds agenda, oh well.
[15:15] <zul> hallyn_: netcf?
[15:15] <lynxman> zul: it was, I had to do a 4 hours connection at heathrow ;)
[15:15] <zul> lynxman: only? :)
[15:16] <lynxman> zul: yeah, uphill through the snow between T5 and T3 :D
[15:16] <zul> it snowed?
[15:16] <lynxman> zul: nope, just wanted to add drama to my story
[15:16]  * zul is not awake
[15:16] <zul> oh
[15:18] <afeijo> _ruben, I'm quite lost right now :(
[15:24] <hallyn_> zul: netcf is what libvirt uses to automatically manipulte networking
[15:25] <_ruben> afeijo: you might wanna describe more clear what your actual goal is here, what is the dns server to be used for for instance
[15:29] <afeijo> _ruben, new ubuntu 11.04 x64 server installed a few days ago, now I need to configure a dns server at that server, the IPs are been distributed by the dsl wifi router, I installed and configured my local domain with bind9. Do I need to do any settings at the router now? or to each linux/mac/windows station?
[15:32] <zul> hallyn_: ah ok
[15:42] <SpamapS> hallyn_: was it you that was trying to have irssi not highlight a window whenever there are joins/parts/nicks/etc. ?
[15:45] <hallyn_> SpamapS: nope
[15:45] <hallyn_> SpamapS: mine (when i use irssi) doesn't do that
[15:47] <hallyn_> zul: patch is away
[15:47] <zul> hallyn_: cool
[15:48] <a7ndrew> i'm none too sure about NFS: anyidea why the uid and gid on the client side would show as '4294967294' and nothing sensible? and why root wouldn't be able to see the subdirs?
[15:49] <lynxman> a7ndrew: that sounds like your client is interpretating the -1:-1 of the nobody:nobody gid and uid to the maximum uid/gid available
[15:52] <a7ndrew> lynxman: thanks, interesting hint. Just chowning the dir to root:root didn't work :P
[16:00] <Daviey> Yeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaa!
[16:05] <hallyn_> Daviey: gmornin :)
[16:05] <Daviey> hallyn_, Hello sir!
[16:06] <Daviey> You were missed last week..
[16:06] <hallyn_> :(
[16:06] <genii-around> a7ndrew: According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#Troubleshooting "all directories and files on the client are owned by uid/gid<PHONE_NUMBER>:4294967294) then you need to set in /etc/default/nfs-common: NEED_IDMAPD=yes and restart nfs-common "
[16:06] <Daviey> hallyn_, Having a beer over webcam didn't really fit, but the thought was there.
[16:06] <robbiew> hallyn_:  FYI...I placed an order for some Toshiba AC100 netbooks (ARM based), planning on giving you one for LXC development/testing this cycle
[16:06] <robbiew> and loan one to upstream (daniel?)
[16:07] <hallyn_> robbiew: neat!  will be great to finally be able to test that
[16:07] <hallyn_> yeah, daniel would be good.  I gather he was there in person last week?
[16:07] <hallyn_> Daviey: i had a cold affligem in the fridge :)
[16:08] <Daviey> heh
[16:10] <robbiew> hallyn_: yeah, we briefly met...and I told him I'd get him hardware
[16:10] <robbiew> order is already placed
[16:11] <a7ndrew> genii-around: thanks, i've been reading that, I restarted nfs-common on the client, now the directory is owned by nobody:nogroup, still cant chown to root, still shows no subdirs. Feel i'm getting closer though.
[16:14] <a7ndrew> funny directory, that one. Root doesn't have permission to remove it, and its too busy to be unmounted
[16:16] <hallyn_> zul: drat, i don't think libvirt folks will take your patch.  But they point out we can use the LIBVIRT_LXC_UUID the same way.
[16:17] <zul> hallyn_: doh!
[16:18] <ScottK> NCommander: For your armel server spec...  The image you're talking about won't talk to the serial port by default like the current headless images will it?
[16:20] <NCommander> ScottK: we were looking at implementing a way to switch that
[16:20] <ScottK> Most non-dev server people don't use serial.
[16:21] <ScottK> NCommander: I think it's worth mentioning in the spec then.
[16:23] <NCommander> ScottK: I disagree, I used to use serial for server management primilary and I know several organizations that do so as well.
[16:23] <ScottK> NCommander: OK.  Some do.  Some don't.
[16:24] <ScottK> In any case, the server ISO default install targets small deployments (since any non-trivial deployment will preseed/roll their own), so serial by default isn't the right answer.
[16:24]  * ScottK still thinks NCommander should put it in the spec.
[16:24] <NCommander> ScottK: it will be in the spec
[16:25] <ScottK> Great.
[16:25] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:25]  * NCommander is writing the specs up now
[16:25] <ScottK> Yep.  I'm getting mail from LP about it.
[16:25] <NCommander> ScottK: well I broke the super-spec into a lot of smalelr ones, you can see the dependnency tree
[16:26] <ScottK> NCommander: Would you please subscribe to them then so I can follow along?
[16:28] <NCommander> ScottK: are you in the ubuntu-armel team?
[16:28]  * NCommander was going to add the armel team to all the specs
[16:28] <ScottK> No.
[16:28] <zul> NCommander: how did you break down the spec?
[16:29] <NCommander> zul: see dependency tre: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-arm-server
[16:30] <zul> NCommander: cool can you put a note in the whiteboard
[16:30] <NCommander> zul: k
[16:31] <zul> thanks
[16:42] <roasted> So I'm running 11.04 desktop edition and I have dhcp-server installed... but under service--status-all I have no listing of it. ?
[16:45] <SpamapS> roasted: service--status-all .. not sure what you mean by that
[16:46] <SpamapS> roasted: did you mean 'service  --status-all' ?
[16:46]  * SpamapS suspects yes
[16:46] <roasted> yes
[16:46] <roasted> SpamapS, what is isc-dhcp-server?
[16:46] <roasted> could that be it? It's currenty disabled.
[16:46] <SpamapS> thats the dhcp server I'm sure
[16:46] <SpamapS> that command needs some help btw
[16:47] <roasted> that wasn't like that for 10.10
[16:47] <roasted> sigh
[16:47] <roasted> constant changes. I can't keep up with this!
[16:47] <roasted> do you know how I would start dhcp on 11.04?
[16:47] <SpamapS> because dhcp was moved to upstart for 11.04 IIRC
[16:47] <SpamapS> roasted: did you try 'service isc-dhcp-server status' ?
[16:47] <roasted> says dhcpd is not running
[16:48] <SpamapS> roasted: would you expect the OS to never change? ;)
[16:48] <SpamapS> roasted: you may want to stay on LTS's if thats the case.
[16:48] <roasted> I do for mission critical stuff
[16:49] <roasted> this is my laptop we're talking about
[16:49] <roasted> but I do imaging from my laptop, hence the dhcp
[16:49] <roasted> just kind of irritating when commands are changing so frequently, even for 6 mo releases
[16:49] <roasted> anyway, how would I get the service going? All previous commands I remember are, of course, not working.
[16:49] <SpamapS> roasted: ok well it may be that it failed to start because your network wasn't up when the system started
[16:50] <SpamapS> roasted: does your laptop have statically configured networking then I presume?
[16:50] <roasted> I would presume so, as I plugged in after we wereup and running
[16:50] <roasted> yes
[16:50] <SpamapS> the supported way to start any service is 'sudo service xxxx start'
[16:50] <roasted> bingo
[16:50] <roasted> failed
[16:50] <roasted> lol
[16:51] <SpamapS> roasted: dhcpd will fail if the exact interface it is configured for is not setup right
[16:51] <roasted> it gets set up through FOG, which Im trying to install
[16:51] <roasted> I never had to configure it prior
[16:51] <SpamapS> what is FOG ?
[16:51] <roasted> think of ghost
[16:51] <roasted> except it doesn't suck
[16:51] <roasted> and it's free/linux based
[16:51] <SpamapS> cool
[16:52] <roasted> FOG = Free Open(source) Ghost
[16:52] <roasted> where are dhcp configs stored? I can just copy it from my 10 10 install
[16:53] <SpamapS> Ok, well then it sounds like FOG must be started before isc-dhcp-server
[16:53] <SpamapS> roasted: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[16:53] <SpamapS> roasted: I take it FOG is not in Ubuntu?
[16:53] <roasted> It's a .tar.gz I have to install
[16:54] <roasted> installs in terminal from a .sh file or something
[16:54] <roasted> I've installed it hundreds of times. the installer does all of the work for you pending answering a few questions
[16:54] <roasted> dear unity. stop freezing. thx.
[16:54] <SpamapS> roasted: ah, ok, well if the installer configures the network.. does it just modify /etc/network/interfaces or try to do something else clever?
[16:55] <roasted> I have to set up a static IP first.
[16:55] <roasted> then I run the installer and it asks if the IP I have is the one I want the server configured for.
[16:55] <roasted> I say yes and it does the rest for me.
[16:55] <roasted> setting up a 192.168 scope, which is the pool that my laptop uses when I image
[16:56] <roasted> rebooting. fn unity
[16:57] <roasted> now that I rebooted maybe itll be running
[16:57] <roasted> since Im plugged in
[16:57] <roasted> ah, nope. definitely isn't running.
[16:58] <roasted> hm
[16:58] <roasted> my dhcpd file is fine on 11.04. it matches identically to my 10 10 install
[17:06] <AlexMax> The last time I restarted my server, SSHD did not come up.  I'm not really familiar with upstart, how can I tell if openssh is actually attempting to start at boot?
[17:07] <AlexMax> I have no idea if it's not being started at all, or if it's being started and not working
[17:07] <AlexMax> My host was able to start ssh manually from the terminal
[17:11] <shaggster> Ok anybody have an idea why apache would be running under limited permission, getting an error through php fopen() failed to create stream permission denied running a script that creates a file. Everywhere i search says to chmod it 777 but i  would like to not have it risk that, but it does work I verified it.. running 10.10 Enterprise cloud
[17:12] <shaggster> futhermore something very interesting is the file acctually gets created, but can't see it unless i upload something else to the directory.. refreshing or changing dir doesnt show the file..
[17:16] <flowbee> hi folks;  i'm getting: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[17:16] <flowbee> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host .... when i try to initiate a second ssh session to my ubuntu 10.04 server.  i have allowed key based auth
[17:23] <hallyn_> zul: do you care one iota if i go ahead and modify lxcguest to handle libvirt without your patch right now?
[17:23] <hallyn_> (i assume not)
[17:23] <zul> hallyn_: hella no
[17:24] <hallyn_> :)
[17:24] <hallyn_> all right i'll do that today and then drop the patch from libvirt after jdstrand reviews the rest of my proposed merge
[17:24] <hallyn_> thanks
[17:25] <hallyn_> jinkeys, debian's dvtm is old old old - still has the fd leak from a year ago
[17:43] <Gunni> what command was it again to see what libraries a binary uses?
[17:45] <genii-around> Gunni: ldd
[17:46] <Gunni> ty
[17:54] <kpettit> Any suggestions on a good blocklist program?  Trying to get a generic blocklist I can use to block IP address and such
[17:55] <genii-around> !info dansguardian
[17:56] <kpettit> genii-around, I'll check it out.  It looks like it's web specific though.
[17:56] <genii-around> Yep
[17:56] <kpettit> I'm looking for something that's more generic.  Basically block all ports to known bad IP addresses.
[17:57] <genii-around> Why not just add those IP to your hosts.deny file
[17:57] <kpettit> genii-around, I do, as I find them.  But it's a pain to keep up with.
[17:58] <kpettit> I'm using fail2ban for some stuff.  And I see other bad stuff in the logs.  But would feel better if I could use a community block list as added protection.
[18:02] <Daviey> kpettit, Using others blacklists is generally discouraged TBH.
[18:02] <Daviey> (other than for Bayesian)
[18:03] <kpettit> I can see the reasoning on that.  This is for a couple of dev type servers that normal public users would be using.
[18:03] <kpettit> Just trying to figure out the lowest effort way to have better security.  Looking at all the fail2ban logs scare me abit.  Tons and tons of bot attacks
[18:09] <surjikal> Hey guys, I just imported a VM of ubuntu 10.04 server 32bit that I setup at home on vbox. Now I'm at work and obviously, the fqdn is wrong. Is there a way to reconfigure the network completely, like it was done during the install?
[18:18] <Daviey> kpettit, well if you know exactly who is connecting to the servers, use whitelisting :)
[18:19] <SpamapS> surjikal: the hostname is recorded in /etc/hostname , if you have a static hostname, thats the place it should be. Note that there are some other things that may need updating as well, like /etc/mailname
[18:19] <kpettit> I would if it was the same IP addresses.  The guys I have going to it rove around alot.  Going in from a starbucks, home, library, etc.
[18:20] <surjikal> SpamapS, in /etc/hostname, I only see my hostname. Is there something I can enter there to change the fqdn?
[18:26] <SpamapS> surjikal: if you edit that file, you can run 'sudo hostname `cat /etc/hostname`' to set the system wide hostname. Note that services may not pick up the new hostname until they are restarted.
[18:27] <surjikal> I changed /etc/hosts
[18:27] <SpamapS> kpettit: you want a VPN solution of some kind then.
[18:27] <kpettit> probaly.
[18:27] <SpamapS> kpettit: the closest thing to a decent block list is denyhosts .. and its barely more than no protection at all.
[18:27] <kpettit> VPN's always seem kind of painful to setup.  KNow of a good one that is faily easy to use?
[18:28] <SpamapS> kpettit: I've always used OpenVPN but I don't know how good or easy the frontends are.
[18:28] <kpettit> SpamapS, I think your right about VPN though.  I've just been avoiding it becuase of pain with them in the past.
[18:29] <kpettit> I don't care so much about hte front end.  I'm ok with the CLI stuff.  Last time I tried OpenVPN though it was fairly painful to do a simple VPN for a few people
[18:29] <SpamapS> kpettit: if you have control over the remote machines its pretty easy to put a shell script or batch file together that starts and stops openvpn automatically w/ client certs for auth..
[18:33] <kpettit> SpamapS, your right.  I'll give it try.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[19:45] <MTecknology> !away > smb-afk
[19:49] <zul> Daviey: when you get a chance can you have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[19:49] <zul> doh...
[19:49] <zul> i mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/778392
[19:50] <Daviey> zul, looks like one for upstream comment i think
[20:28] <stgraber> hallyn_: are you going to SRU bug 607636 ?
[20:29] <stgraber> hallyn_: if you don't have the time to do it, I'm fine doing it
[20:29] <hallyn_> stgraber: please go ahead.  I do think it should be SRUd
[20:30] <stgraber> ok, doing it now
[20:31] <hallyn_> stgraber: thanks
[20:32] <stgraber> uploaded
[20:55] <RoyK> hi all. I just started virt-manager to add some drives to a test-vm, but then, I get this http://karlsbakk.net/virt-manager-issue1.png - can't see the old images, and can't create new ones - any ideas?
[21:07] <RoyK> hm... seems I found the issue - it was trying to open som old storage files which had been removed
[21:07] <RoyK> where does virt-manager have its config? I need to remove these from the 'known storage files'
[21:16] <hallyn_> zul: if i give you a natty .deb for lxcguest, can you trivially test that it still does the right thing under libvirt?
[21:16] <zul> hallyn_: sure i can probably do it tonight
[21:17] <hallyn_> zul: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxcguest_0.7.4-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb
[21:17] <zul> hallyn_: ok ill get to it tonight
[21:17] <hallyn_> so long as that passes, i'll push it to oneiric.  (natty doesn't actually need it of course)
[21:17] <hallyn_> thanks
[21:17] <hallyn_> ttyl
[21:45] <seaLne> how do you make ncurses not cause your eyes to bleed in natty (turn it back to normal blue colour)
[21:46] <seaLne> very scary experience during an upgrade
[21:52] <addisonj> wtf... why can i not ./run a progam from /tmp on 10.04 lts?
[21:53] <soren> addisonj: Maybe it's mounted noexec?
[21:53] <seaLne> no exec mounting?
[21:53] <addisonj> its not a seperate partition
[21:54] <addisonj> its just on .
[21:54] <addisonj> oops /
[21:55] <soren> addisonj: Maybe it's not executable.
[21:55] <soren> addisonj: You're not exactly giving a lot of detail here.
[21:56] <flowbee> hi folks... is there a fast way to move from debian etch => ubuntu 10.04 ?  i have a debian box on linode but id love to move to ubuntu
[21:57] <addisonj> trying to install SAS, it unpacks its own java version to run an installer, which it unpacks to /tmp, i haven't been able to get it run, thought it was a path issue, but if i go straight ti the folder where the java binary is, it still says no such file or directory
[21:57] <addisonj> -rwxr-xr-x 1 csroffice csroffice  65116 2007-10-05 03:19 java
[21:58] <addisonj> http://pastebin.com/ec7VpzT3 there is the mount
[22:00] <soren> addisonj: What exactly are the commands you're trying to run that fail?
[22:02] <saveur7elf> hello)
[22:03] <addisonj> the installer script unpacks its own java and a jar to run the gui installer, here is the actual command  ../../products/javaruntime__92280__lax__xx__sp0__1/bin/java -Xmx1024M -jar deploywiz/setup.jar -startuplocation /media/samba/SAS_9_2_3/Compresed/Linux_64bit/SAS_9.23_Linux_x64 -templocation /tmp/_setup29781
[22:04] <saveur7elf> guys, Where I can get usb ubuntu?
[22:04] <addisonj> its a relative path from the location of the jar to the unpacked location of the java binary, but it fails to find the binary (although that is a valid path)
[22:06] <flowbee> hi folks... is there a fast way to move from debian etch => ubuntu 10.04 ?  i have a debian box on linode but id love to move to ubuntu.  but i'll still need to reconstruct my whole setup right?  there are no migrations scripts?
[22:06] <maxb> saveur7elf: what exactly do you need, there are several forms
[22:07] <saveur7elf>  mm... ubuntu 11.04 for usbflash)
[22:07] <addisonj> I at first thought bash was bugging out on the relative path, but nope, even if i got straight to the directory, it won't run the binary, gives a no such file or path error, which noexec doesn't do correct?
[22:07] <maxb> flowbee: you need a clean install for that
[22:07] <flowbee> maxb, i guess i meant getting the configuration and packages off of debian and onto ubuntu
[22:08] <maxb> saveur7elf: live system? installer?
[22:08] <saveur7elf> installer
[22:08] <addisonj> flowbee, what configs? are you talking like apache? or your gnome and everything?
[22:09] <flowbee> addisonj, i mean like the mysql config/apache config/etc
[22:09] <flowbee> and bash stuff
[22:09] <maxb> flowbee: no special tooling, just normal file copy/backup tools
[22:09] <addisonj> do a fresh install and just move em over, probably the easiest way
[22:10] <flowbee> yeah
[22:10] <RoyK> hi all. I have qemu/kvm setup on this ubuntu 10.04 machine. after adding some test disks, I want to remove them, but it seems virt-manager can't do this and removing them manually just messes up virt-manager. any idea where these are referenced and how I can remove that?
[22:10] <flowbee> how long will 10.04 lts be supported for
[22:10] <addisonj> 3 more years? something like that
[22:10] <maxb> saveur7elf: you probably want the boot.img.gz disk image from any mirror
[22:11] <RoyK> flowbee: LTS is five years for server, 3 for desktop
[22:11] <bluethundr> hey guys, I am looking for a way to add the backports repository to a 9.04 (jaunty) server
[22:11] <bluethundr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[22:11] <addisonj> so about 4 more years of support now
[22:11] <RoyK> addisonj: yeah
[22:12]  * RoyK still runs 8.04 on some servers
[22:12] <addisonj> anyways... back to me issue... yep, pretty much absolutely flumoxed as to why this is acting this way...
[22:14] <flowbee> so done with debian
[22:14] <flowbee> everything will be running 10.04 now
[22:14] <RoyK> :)
[22:29] <Macer> blah
[22:29] <flowbee> how do i change default editor to vim?
[22:30] <soren> bluethundr: Jaunty is dead. Move on.
[22:31] <RoyK> flowbee: see /etc/alternatives - there's an editor symlink there
[22:31] <RoyK> flowbee: or just set the EDITOR variable
[22:38] <bluethundr> soren this is a production server.. it moves onto the current release when the senior sa says it does :)
[22:43] <RoyK> http://imgur.com/gallery/0pxaV
[22:43] <SpamapS> bluethundr: has that senior sa decided to backport all relevant security patches to jaunty? Poor sod.
[22:44] <bluethundr> heh
[22:44] <Pumpkin-> or vetting every security announcement to see if it impacts them, or getting appropriate signoffs to not patch it
[22:44] <Pumpkin-> I'm glad I make those kind of decisions
[22:49] <soren> bluethundr: Production servers that don't receive critical security updates. Fascinating. What was your IP again?
[22:50] <bluethundr> soren, my IP is xx.xx.xx.xxx
[22:51] <soren> bluethundr: I thought it might be.
[22:51] <bluethundr> lol
[23:40] <roasted> So... question... let's say I want to rsync my home directory to a samba share. Well, CIFS mounts to .gvfs... wouldn't I create an infinite loop by rsyncing /home/user to /home/user/.gvfs/network_storage/user?
[23:42] <RoyK> just use --exclude
[23:42] <RoyK> or -x aka --one-file-system
[23:43] <roasted> RoyK, do you know of any rsync GUI's that have this option? I'm trying to help my parents set this up with the NAS I left behind.
[23:44] <RoyK> nah - I only use the commandline
[23:44] <roasted> yeah, me too
[23:44] <roasted> maybe I should just walk them through forwarding SSH so I can get in there
[23:45] <roasted> what exatly doe s"one file system" do?
[23:45] <roasted> doesnt sound too descriptive at first glance
[23:46] <RoyK> it doesn't follow mounts
[23:46] <RoyK> so if you rsync / and /blah is mounted, that won't be rsync'ed
[23:47] <roasted> it seems as if grsync has a "do not leave file system" option
[23:47] <roasted> which, when you hover over it, notates -x and --one-file-system
[23:48] <roasted> so if I'm rsync'ing /home/fred to /home/fred/.gvfs/network_storage/fred, how does that "doesn't follow mounts" apply? I'm not entirely sure I understand.
[23:48] <RoyK> check with 'mount'
[23:48] <RoyK> if it's listed there, it won't be backed up with -x
[23:49] <roasted> so that would thereby include .gvfs as "mount" when its checked
[23:49] <RoyK> is it listed if you type 'mount'?
[23:49] <roasted> uh
[23:49] <roasted> hang on
[23:50] <roasted> it doesnt say exactly .gvfs/network_storage/fred
[23:50] <roasted> but it says something about .gvfs fuse
[23:50] <roasted> daemon etc
[23:51] <RoyK> dunno if rsync will exclude fuse mounts
[23:51] <roasted> damnit
[23:51] <roasted> I wonder if there's a way to tell
[23:51] <roasted> like to see what command this gui is using
[23:51] <RoyK> just try
[23:52] <RoyK> you'll see the loop if it happens
[23:56] <roasted> thats the problem
[23:56] <roasted> I won't - they will, and they won't even know it
[23:56] <roasted> :P
[23:58] <roasted> I just did a quick test bed here with my laptop and a tes CIFS share
[23:58] <roasted> looks like it'll work if I check that box in grsync
[23:59] <roasted> I think they just have SO mcuh data that they cant tell if its looping or just working


 no idea about how evernote works so not sure where to ask you to send it. is it accessible online? (re @Zachariah: @philipz I saved several of my reviews to Evernote so I can easily share them. Where do you want me to send them?)
 Yes, I have links for all of them. Should I drop those in here or send just to you in Telegram? (re @philipz: no idea about how evernote works so not sure where to ask you to send it. is it accessible online?)
 send directly to me on telegram unless others wanted to see them (re @Zachariah: Yes, I have links for all of them. Should I drop those in here or send just to you in Telegram?)
 I just sent those links to you. (re @philipz: send directly to me on telegram unless others wanted to see them)
 thanks


[20:57] <trijntje> Hi all, it looks like I can disable the translations for the Manual on Launchpad, is this supposed to be so? I'm only a member of the public manual team on LP, no special privileges


[09:28] <head_victim> sagaci: to be perfectly honest, I haven't finished drafting the form letter to send out


[09:08] <elacheche_anis> hey thelinuxer
[09:09] <thelinuxer> hey elacheche_anis :)
[09:09] <thelinuxer> how r u doing ?
[09:09] <elacheche_anis> I'm fine :) what about you?
[09:09] <thelinuxer> el7amdulelah tamam :)
[09:10] <elacheche_anis> hmd :)
[09:11] <elacheche_anis> if you don't remamber me, I'm the ubuntu-tn member :D
[09:11] <elacheche_anis> So thelinuxer.. I think that you need to check the log file of the channel.. Exactly Friday :) :)
[09:11] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: of course I remember
[09:12] <thelinuxer> ok hold on
[09:12] <elacheche_anis> ok :)
[09:14] <thelinuxer> lol Mark Shuttleworth is there :D
[09:15] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: ur supporting people now in our channel ... How can we repay you :D ?
[09:16] <elacheche_anis> looool.. You don't have to :) Just I wan't know if I'va make a mistake :s or not..
[09:16] <elacheche_anis> want to know***
[09:16] <thelinuxer> of course  u didn't make any mistakes
[09:17] <thelinuxer> that's what loco do
[09:17] <thelinuxer> he came and asked me a question the day before that
[09:17] <thelinuxer> he wanted to restore his partition as they were before
[09:17] <thelinuxer> as always it's a good step to redirect him to the mailing list
[09:19] <elacheche_anis> ok, :) any way have youany idea about the problem because It's abnormal to open a live ubuntu session, then in gparted finding that all the disk is empty, and there is not partitions!! :s
[09:20] <thelinuxer> i highly doubt that this is the real problem
[09:20] <thelinuxer> i guess he miss-read whatever was on the screen
[09:22] <elacheche_anis> I've seen the same problem during the last week, actually I'm doing an internship in system administration, I'm sure that I have make no mistake, I've installed Ubuntu thousands of times, alone and on dual boot, and it was the first time that I saw something like tha :s
[09:23] <thelinuxer> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1039823.html
[09:24] <thelinuxer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/12598969/DellDimensiont450error.png
[09:26] <elacheche_anis> about the image, it's not my case, the HD is shown in gparted and during the installation as an empty HD..
[09:26] <thelinuxer> ah ok
[09:26] <thelinuxer> that's a really weired problem
[09:26] <thelinuxer> i have never faced this before
[09:28] <elacheche_anis> but I think that it was a compatibility problem with Dell HD, the image is for a Dell and I was installing ubuntu on a Dell too
[09:29] <thelinuxer> Dell is one of the most compatible laptops with ubuntu
[09:29] <thelinuxer> it would be a strange bug ....
[09:29] <elacheche_anis> I know it, but who's know :s it would be a new bug :s
[09:30] <thelinuxer> it could happen
[09:30] <thelinuxer> found this from a forum post
[09:30] <thelinuxer> Hi there
[09:30] <thelinuxer> The reason you are not able to see the hdd is it is in use. While booted  in live CD go to places and unmount any partitions or hdd listed and yo  should get a list again when you back into gparted on LiveCD side
[09:32] <thelinuxer> grrr ... Someone was having the problem and s/he ends the thread with thanks i solved my problem. Where is the freaking solution :D ?
[09:32] <elacheche_anis> My HD what not in use :s .. Any way, I will try to re-install ubuntu and WinBug at the same PC before finishing my internship, to found out what is the real problem.. Of course if I find where it is right now :s
[09:33] <thelinuxer> Good luck!
[09:33] <elacheche_anis> looooool.. She forget to share the solution, that's make me angry sometimes :s
[09:33] <elacheche_anis> thx :)
[09:33] <thelinuxer> :)


[08:10] <Sakrecoer> Hi!
[08:13] <Sakrecoer> I'm interested in helping out fixing bug#1 but the submission quue seem to be gone? http://diy.devubuntu.com/
[08:15] <Sakrecoer> oh.. i found this http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
[08:25] <Sakrecoer> is there anyone availablefor a quick question?
[08:26] <Sakrecoer> however, i shoot:
[08:27] <Sakrecoer> i'm wondering if there is any marketing instance, where... hm.... how to put it...? "scouts" can forward a deal negociation, or an instance than can interconnect a sales departement, install team and a support team with a company?
[08:28] <Sakrecoer> hmm... that wasn't very well put by me....
[08:28] <Sakrecoer> i'll think about it and send a mail to the list instead...


[03:34] <elopio> veebers: how are you?
[03:36] <veebers> elopio: better than this morning. although at this point in time I'm looking forward to EOD-ing :-)
[03:36] <veebers> elopio: how are you?
[03:37] <elopio> veebers: yes, you should take some rest. I'm fine, thanks.
[03:37] <veebers> elopio: ack, will do, just clearing up a couple of things so that I feel like I've actually done something today :-)
[03:38] <elopio> veebers: we decided that we will use your branch as the base for the rest. And we also talked about selftests.
[03:38] <elopio> veebers: so if you don't mind, I will change your example test a little to make it a selftest.
[03:38] <veebers> elopio: while you're here do you mind taking a quick look at the updated autopilot MP
[03:38] <veebers> elopio: no worries, I've just updated that branch right now
[03:39] <veebers> I was just about to put in a comment in that I've made a change that pulls in autopilot as a depend, but I'm not sure we want that (esp. for the purpose that I'm using it)
[03:39] <veebers> I don't think the core test scripts should depend on autopilot
[03:40] <elopio> veebers: looking at it.
[03:40] <veebers> thanks
[03:41] <elopio> veebers: on the ota branch, is there a reason to define the __all__ ?
[03:44] <veebers> elopio: (I'm failing to find a link now but) I understand this is best practice where __init__ only provides access to public modules. using the __all__ we could have a private module _secret_stuff that's not exported by default by the package.
[03:45] <elopio> veebers: ok. I was just wondering as I never know when to use it and when not to.
[03:45] <elopio> veebers: the test in the autopilot branch is really cool
[03:45] <elopio> I'll kick jenkins again, because it has a weird error.
[03:45] <veebers> elopio: oh rats, I hadn't even checked up on that, cheers
[03:45] <elopio> veebers: and I don't mind about adding the autopilot dependency in there. Anyway we will have plenty of autopilot stuff in the branch.
[03:46] <veebers> elopio: the use of __all__ might be overkill here but it's easy enough to setup with no cost
[03:46] <elopio> it would be good to upstream the Eventually matcher to testtools though.
[03:46] <veebers> elopio: right, for the tests, but I'm not sure if we'll want autopilot stuff in the support scripts there. I'm sure that barry has mentioned in the past he would like to supply support scripts that help with the ota tests and the ota tests themselves can consume them
[03:47] <veebers> elopio: re: the autopilot test, it kind of sucks to make it a functional test, but we need to start the process as it's due to the import processing phase.
[03:48] <veebers> plus it was the easiest thing to do right away. I'll take some moments tomorrow to make sure we can't make it a unit test.
[03:48] <elopio> veebers: if it becomes a problem, we can copy the Eventually.  I think making a real test with a real skip with a real config value is nice.
[03:49] <veebers> elopio: ack, just adds time to running the test suite ;-)
[03:49] <veebers> elopio: also you'll see that I responded to your query on the taskbar intro doc
[03:50]  * veebers is reminded to update the standup journal before EOD
[03:50] <elopio> I'll check.
[03:50] <elopio> veebers: I'm going to eat, and then I'll come back to take a better look at your stuff. You should just go to bed. You are wasting a sick day :)
[03:52] <veebers> elopio: heh, I've fine :-) Thanks for the concern.
[05:47] <pitti> balloons, elopio: hm, I thought I fixed the seeds, where do you see this? today's images should be ok
[05:47] <elopio> pitti: sorry, I don't know what you are talking about.
[05:48] <pitti> elopio: that's why I meant to type "elfy", sorry
[05:48] <elopio> :)
[05:54] <elopio> pitti: I don't know how to make a pull request for autopkgtest with the reboot target and command. Should I send you the patch?
[05:54] <pitti> elopio: sure, sounds good (git format-patch origin..), perhaps attach it to a bug?
[05:55] <elopio> pitti: a bug reported in the debian bts?
[06:00] <pitti> elopio: as you with, but a Launchpad bug seems easier
[06:01] <pitti> elopio: curious package list parsing error, I've never seen that; thanks for the report
[06:01] <elopio> pitti: I'll do it tomorrow, I still find git a little confusing.
[06:02] <elopio> pitti: yes, it's weird. I don't get why it's returning the current version. It happens only for the common package.
[06:03] <elopio> pitti: that package will be in the image soon, so the bug is not blocking us.
[06:03] <pitti> elopio: right, when I run that apt-get command I don't get the extra [version] thingy
[06:03] <pitti> elopio: but anyway, as you included the output it's easy enough to fix for that case
[06:04] <elopio> pitti: maybe you need to try with barry's ppa: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/ubuntu/systemimage
[06:06] <pitti> elopio: if you didn't commit anything, just send me the output of "git diff" (and perhaps new files), I'll piece it together
[06:35] <pitti> elopio: parser fixed in git
[06:36] <pitti> elopio: do you know that you can run it straight out of git by replacing "adt-run" with "check/out/dir/run-from-checkout"?
[06:36] <pitti> (much easier to test the latest version with that)
[07:05] <elfy> pitti: by today's images should be ok - do you mean 10th March ?
[07:14] <pitti> elfy: systemd was stuck in -proposed, so this morning's images would still have failed
[07:14] <pitti> I nudged them now, though, so the next ones should work again
[07:15] <elfy> ok - thanks
[14:08] <elfy> balloons pitti: manifest for xubuntu shows systemd 219-4ubuntu4 which afaik is the newest, still not getting a desktop here, so maybe a different issue
[14:12] <elopio> ping pitti: there's an error on your parsing fix. I've attaached the patch to the same bug:
[14:12] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopkgtest/+bug/1430017
[14:13] <elopio> tested with run-from-checkout, thanks for the tip :)
[14:14] <balloons> elopio, sounds like tomorrow should work
[14:14] <balloons> elfy, ^^
[14:14] <balloons> bah, did it again :-)
[14:17] <rhuddie> elopio, do you have some time to go over changing the proxy base class for the camera test? I've tried various things, but it seems more complicated as I am over-riding the MainWindow and Panel classes, which is leading to other issues.
[14:17] <elopio> rhuddie: I do.
[14:17] <elopio> rhuddie: do you want to hangout or push your changes?
[14:18] <rhuddie> elopio, excellent. I think h/o would be best. I've not submitted changes to branch
[14:19] <elopio> rhuddie: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/qa
[14:35] <pitti> elopio: thanks, applied and bug updated *blush*
[14:56] <elopio> pitti: no worries. I bet that was a trap to help me getting started contributing :)
[14:57] <elopio> now I know how to make a git patch.
[14:57] <pitti> elopio: darn, you unveilled my s3kr1t plan
[14:57] <pitti> elopio: nah, it was just me resorting to a quick fix because of time pressure argh
[15:16] <elopio> barry: yesterday you told me that I might be missing an ApplyUpdate. I'm not sure where to put it. Should I call that after the system-image-dbus call?
[15:19] <elopio> pitti: can we run only one of the tests defined in debian/tests/control ?
[15:19] <pitti> elopio: with latest autopkgtest, yes; adt-run --testname mytest -B testdir//
[15:19] <elopio> nice!
[15:19] <pitti> elopio: (just make sure to specify --testname *before* the thing you want to test, as it only applies to the next test)
[15:20] <elopio> pitti: and what if I use Test-command instead of test name?
[15:22] <pitti> elopio: it synthesizes test name "command%i" for those, e. g. --testname command2
[15:22] <elopio> :)
[15:22] <pitti> elopio: starting at 1
[15:34] <barry> elopio: yes, after s-i-dbus has been started, you should then connect to the service and call its ApplyUpdate().  but s-i-dbus will have to run in the background (usually it's dbus activated) and you'll have had to do a CheckForUpdate() first (see my branch)
[15:34] <elopio> barry: /me looks.
[15:35] <barry> pitti: has the systemd transition for desktop happened yet?
[15:36] <pitti> barry: yes, yesterday
[15:37] <barry> pitti: i was afraid of that ;)  dist-upgrade broke.  fortunately, it's on a vm with disk snapshotting, so i'm reverting and trying again
[15:37] <pitti> barry: oh? bug with upgrade log appreciated
[15:38] <barry> pitti: yep, if it reproduces
[15:38] <pitti> barry: that is, day-to-day vivid upgrade? or from trusty/utopic?
[15:38] <barry> pitti: day-to-day.  last upgrade was on 3/5
[15:41] <barry> pitti: if i need to file a bug, where's the best place to do it?  (i'm not positive it's systemd yet)
[15:41] <barry> but it seems a likely candidate
[15:41] <pitti> barry: on the first package that failed is usually the best place
[15:41] <pitti> barry: but I don't mind if you file it against systemd, I can still reassign if appropriate
[15:41] <barry> pitti: ack, thx
[15:41] <pitti> barry: thanks!
[15:57] <barry> pitti: well, this time it upgraded, but then LP: #1430412 upon reboot
[16:12] <pitti> barry: ok, that's someone else's problem then :)
[16:12] <pitti> barry: do you still happen to have the upgrade output somewhere?
[16:12] <pitti> (terminal scrollback or so)
[16:32] <elfy> balloons: yea - but "systemd was stuck in -proposed ... nudged them now, next ones should work" was 2 hours prior to image building, which does have the systemd that's out of proposed according to the manifest - hence me suspecting this is something else
[16:34] <balloons> for xubuntu.. well, let's see
[16:38] <balloons> I don't see any build failures for xubuntu specifically, unlike ubuntu
[16:39] <elfy> yea - which is why I think it's something else again :(
[16:55] <barry> pitti: not the one that failed unfortunately.  i trashed that disk snapshot
[17:01] <elopio> brendand: fgimenez: rhuddie: who is vanguard now? is it me?
[17:01] <fgimenez> elopio, i think brendand
[17:01] <rhuddie> elopio, according to ##qa it is brendand
[17:01] <fgimenez> elopio, see ##qa topic :)
[17:02] <elopio> got it.
[17:02] <brendand> elopio, when i go offline you are
[17:03] <brendand> elopio, are you happy with https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/take_picture_with_rear_camera/+merge/251967 now?
[17:10] <elopio> brendand: I am happy. Did you run the tests with the latest revision?
[17:26] <brendand> elopio, oh yeah - it works
[17:27] <elopio> brendand: ok, I'll approve then.
[17:37] <elfy> balloons: so - with xubuntu images it seems none of the xfce stuff is running ...
[17:37] <elfy> I assume that you should be able to edit the boot line in a live image, and that init=/sbin/upstart should start it with upstart instead
[17:37] <elfy> that just hangs
[17:39] <balloons> elfy, ouch
[17:40] <elfy> it all looks like it's got the right systemd
[17:40] <elfy> at least it doesn't work in kvm too ;)
[17:56] <barry> is anybody else having lp problems?  this page just keeps timing out for me: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ota-tests/check-for-running-service
[17:56] <barry> ^^ https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ota-tests/check-for-running-service/+merge/252057
[17:58] <gQuigs> 1st link loads, second never seems to
[17:58] <elfy> same
[17:59] <barry> gQuigs, elfy thanks for the confirmation.  i'll ping someone over in canonical is
[18:10] <barry> ok.  known problem, being worked on
[18:24] <elopio> barry: when I try to get the interface again while system-image-dbus is running I get:
[18:24] <elopio> [systemimage] Mar 10 18:20:34 2015 (3110) Cannot get exclusive ownership of bus name.
[18:24] <elopio> am I doing something stupid here?
[18:25] <barry> elopio: that means there's already a si-dbus process running.  so either the first one has to be killed or you have to watch for that and use the already running version
[18:25] <barry> iface.Exit() will exit it
[18:25] <barry> as will SIGTERM
[18:25] <elopio> barry: I assume we need it to be running, because that's the one who tells to use our modified .ini
[18:26] <elopio> is there a way to tell the service by dbus which config directory to use?
[18:27] <barry> elopio: there isn't.  we experimented with that for snappy but it was too tricky and racy to be reliable.  so, via dbus, you have to .Exit() and restart it (usually by dbus activate)
[19:36] <brendand> veebers, can you top-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/take_picture_with_rear_camera/+merge/251967 if you're okay with it? it's approved by everyone else
[19:43] <veebers> brendand: ack, I'll be able to do that after the meeting :-)
[20:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi
[20:12] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello hello
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, :)
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was wondering if you had 2 min. for this: https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fixed-test-cut-directory/+merge/252205
[20:16] <balloons> Letozaf_, ahh nice and easy. So that change isn't going to fix the issue, although it's good to have cleanup and you have the right idea. You need to either remove the directory before making the new one or better simply creating only if it doesn't exit
[20:16] <balloons> something like if not os.path.exists(directory), os.makedirs(directory)
[20:17]  * balloons googles and sees python3 has a cool flag now to help with this
[20:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh, thanks I will do as you say
[20:17] <balloons> Letozaf_, check out https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.makedirs
[20:18] <balloons> you can use exist_ok=True :-)
[20:18] <balloons> no need for a conditional check
[20:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, thanks
[20:20] <balloons> but yea, +1 with that. That should solve the issue. Does file manager not just cleanup the temp directory it does all it's operations in? It might be worth a singular check at the beginning
[20:21] <balloons> I'm asking because your fix would be better applied I think at the root directory filemanager uses; so no test has this issue
[20:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will check this too
[22:42] <elopio> ugh, I got my krillin stuck in the white screen.
[22:44] <elopio> nuclearbob: can you access the board now?
[22:44] <elopio> https://trello.com/b/8dD0UPNl/qa-stakeholders-backlog-scroll-right-for-stakeholder-specific-backlogs
[22:45] <nuclearbob> elopio: yes, thank you
[22:45] <elopio> np.
[22:49] <elfy> balloons: so once again we got sorted by the awesome people in release, we should be off and running again tomorrow
[22:50] <elfy> and btw - ubuntu image still apppears to be rebuilding since the 6th