[07:00] <Hypereia> I'm still unclear what the solution to this is, I've read some of the links you sent and read others are having the same problem, but one guy said he was able to get it to work. however, when running the xserver config, all default options still doesn't work.
[07:00] <kijjaz> ruxpin: oh ...
[07:00] <RedGhost> I noticed ubuntu doesn't come with a chess game, can somebody recommend one???
[07:00] <rredd4> I sure would like to see a keyboard command for copy, paste in Gnome terminal program.....
[07:01] <kijjaz> ruxpin: let me try.. eh eh.
[07:01] <ruxpin> kijjaz: unmount, then 'mke2fs -j /dev/<partition>'
[07:01] <azureal> RedGhost, i think there's gnomechess
[07:01] <jordan> azureal, Do you like compiz? ( XGL effects )
[07:01] <foo> Can I extend an NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[07:01] <berent> why does gaim quit immediately when its closed
[07:01] <azureal> jordan, my built-in laptop video card isnt good enough
[07:01] <ruxpin> kijjaz: that destroys everything without asking so make sure you get it right
[07:01] <kijjaz> ruxpin: mke2fs.. hmm never heard of that before. i'll try.
[07:01] <w30> ITSa341, what's the comercial wine like application they use? I forget
[07:01] <berent> sign off i mean
[07:01] <ChocoCid> cedega
[07:01] <Vertana> w30: Cedega?
[07:01] <jordan> azureal, Is it less than 5 years old?
[07:01] <ruxpin> kijjaz: add -L <volume_name> if you want to call it something
[07:01] <JuiceBox> Sooo.. nobody knows how to compile a program?
[07:01] <w30> Vertana, yeah, thanks
[07:01] <JuiceBox> in nano
[07:01] <azureal> jordan, well yes... are you about to recommend transparency?
[07:02] <Vertana> No problem.
[07:02] <azureal> jordan, because true transparency runs badly
[07:02] <Vertana> I use Cedega myself.
[07:02] <ruxpin> in nano?
[07:02] <rredd4> foo   u mean like    mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 foo     ?
[07:02] <JuiceBox> well i mean i wrote the program in nano
[07:02] <jordan> azureal, Ok then you are probably right :)
[07:02] <JuiceBox> and i want to compile it
[07:02] <Healot> !build
[07:02] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:02] <ITSa341> w30  freespire doesn't come with wine preinstalled but it's a one click install from Click n Run. Xandros comes with crossover office pro depending on which version you buy
[07:02] <Healot> follow that link for god's sake
[07:02] <spanky_> Hey there guys. Does anyone know of an way to keep GUI processes running after logging out? Something similar to what screen does for cl programs.
[07:02] <Healot> !build > JuiceBox
[07:02] <jordan> azureal, Your boot time will probably be cut in half.
[07:02] <JuiceBox> oh ok
[07:03] <JuiceBox> i'll try that 1 sec
[07:03] <kijjaz> ruxpin: hmmm.. (i have too few knowledge on doing that.. i've never mounted things manually before)
[07:03] <azureal> jordan, it's already pretty short, i guess =)
[07:03] <JuiceBox> grrr still says "!build: event not found
[07:03] <ruxpin> kijjaz: 'mount /dev/<fat32_part> /mnt/<foobar> -o umask=000'
[07:03] <azureal> jordan, so should i wait for the next version to come out?  the format is Day.Month, right?  so maybe 7.10?
[07:03] <berent>  gaim quits as soon as its window is closed  in dapper?
[07:03] <Healot> JuiceBox, follow the link.... open the url in a web browser... wtf?
[07:03] <jordan> azureal, Agian, depending on how you use your computer Edgy may have no benefit and you might want to stick with Dapper for stability.
[07:04] <foo> rredd4: hmm, resize, I mean.
[07:04] <Healot> read up the text on that page... JuiceBox
[07:04] <jordan> azureal, 6.10
[07:04] <rredd4> foo ohh sorry, i can't help there
[07:04] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware > For you JuiceBox
[07:04] <berent>  gaim quits as soon as its window is closed  in dapper?
[07:04] <azureal> oh, nvm lol
[07:04] <sidny4> !dual monitors
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual monitors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <foo> rredd4: hehe, thanks anyways
[07:04] <AstralJava> berent: I don't recall that, isn't there a gaim icon in the notification area? It just disconnects.
[07:04] <sidny4> !nvidia
[07:04] <azureal> ah, i'm using 6.06..clean forgot..
[07:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:04] <JuiceBox> ok yeah i followed it... i need to install the build-essential package
[07:04] <AstralJava> berent: Currently using Edgy, so I can't check.
[07:05] <JuiceBox> so i get GCC
[07:05] <berent> astraljava:no icon left it signs off
[07:05] <JuiceBox> but i dunno where that is ... im looking
[07:05] <_Er1K_> sidney: dual displays are not as easy as they should be with ubuntu...not nearly
[07:05] <Vertana> Later ^^
[07:05] <AstralJava> berent: Okay then.
[07:05] <_Er1K_> sidney: if you want me to post my xorg.conf for dual head nvidia, hollar
[07:05] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware >> read this page, follow the instructions, JuiceBox
[07:05] <jordan> azureal, Anything feature you want that isn't in Dapper?
[07:05] <azureal> ah, jordan, btw... i dont seem to have "update-manager"
[07:06] <offby1> azureal: capital idea!
[07:06] <b33m3r> isn't it ironic that you don't get mp3 playback out of the box in ubuntu but you do in slackware?
[07:06] <azureal> blah...
[07:06] <azureal> i dont feel like apt-getting it
[07:06] <AstralJava> b33m3r: Why should it be ironic?
[07:06] <jordan> azureal, I did a clean install so I don't know about upgrading to beta releases, sorry.
[07:06] <azureal> jordan, i'm just kidding
[07:06] <_Er1K_> minor and easily correct, b33m3r, some just are not willing to potentially violate the law for convenience
[07:06] <b33m3r> linux for humans? (slogan) I'm having a heck of time getting it to work
[07:07] <jordan> azureal, lol my bad.
[07:07] <ITSa341> Night everyone, have fun
[07:07] <AstralJava> b33m3r: There's also a lot of talk about using free software.
[07:07] <azureal> jordan, it's just a matter of  api update-manager, then gksu "update-manager"
[07:07] <_Er1K_> night itsa
[07:07] <offby1> azureal: well, lspci shows a 3c905c, but I'm 80% sure that's the _other_ network adapter -- the one on the motherboard.  I don't see the wireless card.  It's a pcmcia card, so I guess lspci won't show it ...
[07:07] <berent> b33m3r : aren't u human
[07:07] <azureal> jordan where api = apt-get install
[07:07] <offby1> azureal: orinoco_cs, I think.
[07:07] <b33m3r> I understand the licensing issue, but I should be able to install and configure. no luck so far.
[07:07] <Hypereia> Alright, I'm going to try something, wish me luck.
[07:07] <azureal> offby1, lspci | grep -i wireless  maybe?
[07:07] <AstralJava> b33m3r: But it might be installed by default in the future, I hear mp3 patents are expiring someday soon. Forget the date, though.
[07:08] <jordan> azureal, Why is it a GUI app?
[07:08] <evi|one> I have a question about Edgy. I understand it comes with loads of beta software. My question is: is everything going to be in a perpetual beta state? I mean, as soon as a beta version is released for some application it will prompt you to upgrade?
[07:08] <offby1> azureal: orinoco_cs, I think.
[07:08] <Healot> #ubuntu+1 > evi|one
[07:08] <_Er1K_> b3: turn the universe/metaverse packages on and you should be set
[07:08] <azureal> well, i'm not sure then, but if it's orinoco, it should work well
[07:08] <b33m3r> I'm quite certain I have all the plugins installed, but it's still not working. Any clues?
[07:08] <offby1> azureal: of course it should :-)
[07:08] <jordan> evi|one, I am not sure I understand your question.
[07:09] <berent> what is metaverse
[07:09] <azureal> offby1, orinoco + linux = l33t
[07:09] <offby1> azureal: I suspect it's just some module that didn't get loaded.  But I dunno which :-(
[07:09] <jordan> !multiverse
[07:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:09] <azureal> i should actually get an orinoco card..
[07:09] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: ehm... did you say before intel doesn't open source their stuff ??
[07:10] <offby1> well, lsmod | egrep orinoco reveals a pile of loaded drivers (I'm using the older, working kernel, now, of course).  Maybe I'll stick those in /etc/modules.
[07:10] <azureal> offby1, do you have the package "pcmcia-cs" installed?
[07:10] <jordan> evi|one, Can you refrase your question please?
[07:10] <offby1> azureal: dunno; hold on.
[07:10] <ChocoCid> edgy still uses the repositories, not CVS
[07:10] <offby1> azureal: yes, I do.
[07:10] <_Er1K_> azureal:  be careful what wifi you buy for linux orinoco cones have worked well for me, as have atheros.  broadcom have usually been a PITA
[07:10] <Flannel> evi|one: edgy is frozen.
[07:11] <_Er1K_> s/cones/clones/
[07:11] <ChocoCid> they have to be updated in the repositories for edgy to update, just because there's some update that's in their CVS doesn't mean edgy will get that in the update
[07:11] <Flannel> evi|one: edgy is the next release, it is currently in a beta stage, it will be released normally as a stable release within the month
[07:11] <DaveyJ> i have a hardware question... i dont know where to ask so i guess i'll ask here.... i got a board (intel socket 775) for celeronD or p4... since its 775, does that mean it'd support a core2 duo also? or is it just the same socket
[07:12] <azureal> _Er1K_, yea, that's why i was looking into orinoco ;)
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: not their drivers iirc
[07:12] <evi|one> Flannel: And after the final release, will it use *stable* software? Or the latest version (beta/rc/final/whatever) of the software?
[07:12] <Flannel> DaveyJ: that'd be a question for #ubuntu-offtopic, or #hardware
[07:12] <jordan> evi|one, stable.
[07:12] <Flannel> evi|one: it'll be just like current ubuntu.  Using whatever versions it has now, with bugfixes.
[07:12] <calamari> hi
[07:13] <evi|one> I see. Thanks.
[07:13] <b33m3r> Astral: is mp3 problem a known issue for dapper?
[07:13] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: ehm... bull
[07:13] <jordan> b33m3r, Yes.
[07:13] <DaveyJ> lol there is a #hardware?
[07:13] <azureal> offby1, i dont have too much time atm to google it, but you should do that and read about installing the orinoco driver (which is probably in that pcmcia-cs package)
[07:13] <b33m3r> ah
[07:13] <Deramin> the JDK in the repository should contain every file the one on Sun's website does, right?
[07:13] <DaveyJ> how do you like that
[07:13] <jordan> !restricted formats
[07:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:13] <offby1> azureal: hmm, thanks ... it's odd, though, since it worked fine last week before I upgraded ...
[07:13] <calamari> rebooted and out of the blue it is telling me that nautilus has quit unexpectedly.  I ran it in a console and got: "(nautilus:5335): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_action_disconnect_accelerator: assertion `GTK_IS_ACTION (action)' failed" 3 times... but that's it.  Any ideas what's up with nautilus?
[07:13] <_Er1K_> azureal:  as long as the propriety firmware images do not bother your politics, I highly recommend the atheros setup.
[07:13] <azureal> offby1, yea, i think you're right about something not loading
[07:14] <b33m3r> free formats is just not an option
[07:14] <b33m3r> realistically
[07:14] <Ransom1> Anyone ever installed drivers for an Intell 3945?  I'm a linux noob and I've spent about 8 hours today following the how to's with no luck.  Any help would be greately appreciated
[07:14] <Flannel> b33m3r: mp3 support is easy enough to install, it's just not included out of the box
[07:14] <_Er1K_> Several of the broadcom chipsets (e.g. Linksys) violate FCC regs b/c the frequency ranges are dependent upon the country code you enter
[07:14] <_Er1K_> not allowed
[07:14] <_Er1K_> period
[07:14] <b33m3r> right, so why can't I get it to work?
[07:15] <jordan> b33m3r, Basically it would be eligal ( and some would argue inethical ) for them to have mp3 by default, but there is no problem with installing it yourself.
[07:15] <jordan> *ilegal
[07:15] <b33m3r> I've checked for all the gstreamer packages and they appear to be installed
[07:15] <b33m3r> am I missing something?
[07:15] <offby1> azureal: yeah -- another piece of evidence is that there's a little light on the card that usually blinks as soon as the driver loads, regardless of network traffic.  With -10, it's off; with -7 (the version that works) it blinks happily
[07:15] <offby1> ah well
[07:16] <Flannel> b33m3r: you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:16] <jordan> !restricted formats > b33m3r
[07:16] <b33m3r> ubuntu
[07:17] <b33m3r> ok, I'll check the other packages listed on RestrictedFormats
[07:17] <Flannel> b33m3r: and you have gstreamer0.8-mad and -misc?
[07:17] <Flannel> b33m3r: (this means you've enabled multiverse)
[07:17] <b33m3r> one sec
[07:19] <david_> I am having trouble getting ATI drivers working on Edgy
[07:19] <JuiceBox> grrrr why is it so hard to compile :( i cnat figure this out
[07:19] <Flannel> david_: #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <Flannel> !tell JuiceBox about compile
[07:19] <Ransom1> anyone willing to let me talk my way through a driver install?  The how to's aren't working :(
[07:20] <JuiceBox> ive seen that link
[07:20] <JuiceBox> i still cant figure it out :(
[07:20] <highneko> Firefox is not responding and I can't see it. How to close it?
[07:20] <blind> My vnc server is not working right. It runs, but on display 1. I want it on display 0. And, when I connect, here's what it looks like: http://blindx.net/vnc.png
[07:21] <stonarmusic> highneko - do you see a window?
[07:21] <highneko> Nope.
[07:21] <highneko> I  see windows yes, but not firefox.
[07:22] <stonarmusic> highneko - opena terminal, and type 'ps -A'
[07:22] <b33m3r> Flannel: yes I have gstreamer mad and misc. still no joy.
[07:22] <ardchoille> highneko: ps aux | grep firefox
[07:23] <Phlosten> b33m3r: is mp3 support in the 'ugly' set?
[07:23] <highneko> Is there no gui for closing these things?
[07:23] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu work with dual monitors?
[07:24] <Ransom1> ok, here's a quick question.  How do I install something that needs root permissions?
[07:24] <david_> sudo
[07:24] <blind> !xinerama
[07:24] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:24] <ardchoille> highneko: You could try gnome-system-monitor
[07:24] <Ransom1> it keeps saying "permission denied"
[07:24] <stonarmusic> highneko if you can see a wndow there is a program called xkill
[07:24] <calamari> fixed it.. reinstalled nautilus and nautilus-data
[07:24] <kijjaz> ruxpin: i've unmounted, formated with mke2fs, but it still automount the same way when io plug the USB external hdd  in..
[07:25] <kijjaz> ruxpin: how can i mount it again? (it's /dev/sda1 here)
[07:25] <JuiceBox> OMG im so confused, i just installed Ubuntu a few days ago and I'm trying to compile my first C program that I wrote.   If anyone can help me 1 on 1 i'd greatly appreciate it!!!!
[07:25] <w30> blind, usually display 1 comes up because display 0 is allready running . Check with ps aux | grep vnc or maybe vncserver
[07:25] <highneko> ardchoille: That worked great. Thanks. :3
[07:25] <ardchoille> JuiceBox: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:25] <ardchoille> highneko: You're welcome :)
[07:25] <blind> w30: i did. nothing else running.
[07:26] <blind> w30: any clue why it looks like that, though?
[07:27] <corsair> whois
[07:28] <swashbuc1linstev> so, gtkwifi is pretty cool :-)
[07:28] <blind> Another VNC issue: I can't connect to the VNC connection I'm running upstairs. The java applet works, and a loopback connection works, but it doesn't work from my computer
[07:28] <kijjaz> ruxpin: now it works.. thanks (but i still have to be root to write the new ext3 disk)
[07:28] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant listen to music
[07:28] <ltr20> Hello, when i type 'ktrorrent' i get "Segmentation fault"
[07:28] <ghostshadow189> i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> when boot i can hear sound , both sound when i type password and sound when ubuntu load and ofcourse when i shutdown comp .
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .
[07:29] <ltr20> ghostshadow189, try a diffrent sound output (oss,asa etc)
[07:29] <Ransom1> can anyone tell me what I need to do when an instruction shows I need to use (#) in the console?
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> yes i'm using Realtek , it's oss
[07:30] <highneko> Ransom1: I believe that means you need to be root.
[07:30] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Use sudo: sudo <command>
[07:30] <highneko> highneko: Be careful using that tho. ;)
[07:30] <highneko> Oops!
[07:31] <Deramin> JuiceBox: in the terminal: gcc <full file name> (no <>)
[07:31] <b33m3r> Flannel: maybe I'm doing something wrong in the repository configuration. I enabled everything I could see. :)
[07:31] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls ?
[07:32] <b33m3r> but, All the packages recommended in the RestrictedFormats page are installed. :/
[07:32] <Deramin> JuiceBox: gcc is the c/c++ compiler built into ubuntu.
[07:32] <sidny4> anybody know of a good tutorial for getting dual monitors to work?
[07:32] <Deramin> If I've got the JDK installed, how do I compile Java code?
[07:32] <Ransom1> ardchoille: so just type sudo before the command?
[07:32] <w30> blind, you have got to configure your vncserver to run a window-manager. the only thing you have going is an xterm.  I don't have vncserver installed yet on Ubuntu so I can't tell you chich config file to put your start kde or start gnome-session in., but that's what you have to do.
[07:32] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Yes
[07:33] <ardchoille> !sudo
[07:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:33] <ardchoille> Ransom1: But, be aware that the command will be running with root privs.
[07:33] <blind> w30: it used to work more than that :\
[07:34] <Ransom1> ardchoille: I'm trying unsuccessfully to get my wireless running (a step by step following of the instructions doesn't work unfortunently...)   On section 3 it mentions "automatic daemon leading via modprobe"
[07:34] <Ransom1> ardchoille: any idea what that is?
[07:34] <Ransom1> ardchoille: another step or another way of loading drivers?
[07:34] <JuiceBox> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 permission denied)
[07:35] <Flannel> JuiceBox: close synaptic/updatemanager/whatever else you have open and try again
[07:35] <w30> blind, check /etc/vnc.config or conf or something like that
[07:35] <ardchoille> Ransom1: No, I've never messed with wireless or drivers much
[07:35] <JuiceBox> E: Unable to lick the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg), are you root?
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant listen to music
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> when boot i can hear sound , both sound when i type password and sound when ubuntu load and ofcourse when i shutdown comp .
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :
[07:35] <JuiceBox> ;
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .
[07:35] <Ransom1> ardchoille: rats.  Hard to learn linux without being able to research online...lol
[07:36] <ardchoille> !wireless
[07:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:36] <ardchoille> Ransom1: You see that?
[07:36] <Flannel> ghostshadow189: you might try #kubuntu
[07:36] <JuiceBox> ok flannel ill try that
[07:36] <JuiceBox> although i have nothing runnning in ubuntu, but ubutu is running over windows
[07:37] <ghostshadow189> oh i'm using ubuntu
[07:37] <Flannel> JuiceBox: oh, the second one too... You'll need to use sudo or gksudo, or kdesu, depending on what youre running
[07:37] <Flannel> ghostshadow189: right, but those are KDE programs, so they'll be more familiar with them
[07:37] <JuiceBox> wait i got it
[07:37] <ghostshadow189> oh thanx , i'll try
[07:37] <JuiceBox> hanks flannel
[07:37] <JuiceBox> thanks*
[07:37] <Quintin> This is *amazing*
[07:37] <Quintin> Look!!!
[07:37] <Quintin> http://download.microsoft.com/download/F/C/F/FCFF3437-1726-4F83-910B-3FC27E5EBAFF/dtech_ccstudy.pdf
[07:37] <Ransom1> ardchoille: yeah I'll check.  So far I've gone through 3 how to's with no luck.  They all don't refer correctly to the files you download, and I'm not smart enough to know what subtle changes I need to make to make it work
[07:38] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Try a search at http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:39] <Hypereia> Ver!
[07:39] <Hypereia> I got it working...partially.
[07:39] <Hypereia> The problem of DVI on ATI card.
[07:40] <Ransom1> ardchoille: yeah I've been there trying to follow the step by steps all day.  No luck so far.  Thanks for trying though :)
[07:40] <jordan> Quintin, Are you trying to start a flamewar?
[07:40] <Ransom1> ardchoille: eventually I'll either figure it out or run into somebody who knows what I'm screwing up
[07:40] <bz0b> hey room
[07:40] <Quintin> jordan: That's pretty ignorant of you.  how on earth would I be trying to start a flamewar?
[07:40] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Yeah, that's one of the great things about Ubuntu.. there's always someone who can help you with anything :)
[07:41] <Hypereia> "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx","sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", then change ati to fglrx
[07:41] <Ransom1> ardchoille: yeah imagine how much easier it'll be to find when I can get internet working though...lol
[07:41] <Hypereia> That's the way.
[07:41] <seth> After su
[07:41] <bz0b> i just bought a new dell laptop e1505, and i googled a little but i can't seem to get the wireless card to work, even after updating to the 2.6.15 kernel as some said the drivers were pre-compiled in
[07:41] <bz0b> anyone have any ideas?
[07:41] <Hypereia> But...That driver isn't 100% compatible.
[07:41] <jordan> Quintin, Sorry, I just saw a Microsoft sponsored study and no relation to anything people were talking about, I am a pretty tired too sorry :)
[07:41] <jman_> can't get crossover office to install itunes grrrr
[07:42] <Hypereia> When I clicked "Restart" button, bam...monitor lost signal, turned to yellow light for stand-by.
[07:42] <bz0b> by the way its the intel 3945 abg chipset
[07:42] <Quintin> jordan: I paste it 'cause it is amazing.  just scroll down to the checkbox comparision of win2k3 and suse
[07:42] <Flannel> Quintin, jordan, this is not the place, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <Hypereia> Does anyone share interest in my babbling, or is it just going into the wind?
[07:43] <bz0b> Hypereia, talking to me?
[07:43] <Quintin> jordan: there is no check by suse for anything except 'print server'.  just funny stuff
[07:43] <Quintin> Flannel: or I'll take it to bed.  hah!!  irc nazi
[07:43] <Hypereia> I was talking to the guy who helped me before, named "Ver" something.
[07:43] <nekloksan> hi
[07:43] <seth> After system update sound settings now are reset every reboot (Master and PCM are always muted after reboot). What can I do?
[07:43] <nekloksan> vagina?
[07:43] <Hypereia> He was trying to help me get DVI to work on my ATI card.
[07:43] <nekloksan> vagina anyone?`
[07:44] <ardchoille> nekloksan: Please take that somewhere else
[07:44] <Hypereia> When I tried to get my monitor to work VIA DVI connection, I would get "No display detected", or just my screen would go into standby mode.
[07:44] <RedGhost> seth: are you using VMware?
[07:44] <seth> RedGhost: no, no VMware.
[07:45] <Hypereia> Vaginas are a Myth, but yeah. I got it semi-working.
[07:45] <jstarcher> hello, anyone home?
[07:45] <RedGhost> Okay nevermind then.
[07:45] <nekloksan> u got vagina?
[07:45] <RedGhost> jstarcher: no
[07:45] <Hypereia> Yus.
[07:45] <nekloksan> cool
[07:45] <jstarcher> RedGhost: okay, cya
[07:45] <sambagirl> hey is seveas still here?
[07:45] <Hypereia> I just need a better driver now.
[07:45] <nekloksan> quety?
[07:45] <nekloksan> query
[07:45] <nekloksan> ?
[07:45] <jbmigel> Hypereia ill take it
[07:46] <Hypereia> Only for $5, you game?
[07:46] <Flannel> nekloksan, Hypereia, this is not the place.
[07:46] <jbmigel> heck ill pay $10
[07:46] <Hypereia> I didn't start this.
[07:46] <Hypereia> He made a mockery of me, so I simply played along.
[07:46] <YBH_1> seth
[07:46] <nekloksan> meth!
[07:46] <nekloksan> do meth every day!
[07:47] <Hypereia> Where can I get a good driver for an ATI x800, for Ubuntu?
[07:47] <nekloksan> does anyone know how to get a "real" root?
[07:47] <nekloksan> with password
[07:47] <seth> YBH_1: ?
[07:47] <nekloksan> and vagina :D
[07:47] <jstarcher> is there a way to show all the processes running?
[07:47] <azureal> "some third party sources were disabled" =P
[07:47] <ardchoille> !sudo > nekloksan
[07:47] <nekloksan> thx ardchoille
[07:47] <Hypereia> Why root, when there is sudo?
[07:47] <nekloksan> because i want vagina
[07:47] <nekloksan> not sudo
[07:47] <Hypereia> That explains everything.
[07:47] <YBH_1> lobin in single user mode type passwd
[07:48] <Hypereia> Thank you.
[07:48] <Quintin> nekloksan: 'sudo su'.  duh
[07:48] <Quintin> jstarcher: man ps!!
[07:48] <Flannel> nekloksan: read that page.  it explains it all.
[07:48] <azureal> LOL!  "your system does not contain a ubuntu-desktop....it was not possible to detect which version of ubuntu you are running."
[07:48] <Hypereia> El oh elz.
[07:48] <jordan> YBH_1,  You don't need to log in single user mode, you can just `sudo passord`
[07:48] <jstarcher> Ouch! I just noticed that FireFox was sucking up 1.3gb physical ram and it only had 2 tabs open. HUGE memory leak.
[07:49] <Hypereia> Wow, which version of FF?
[07:49] <nekloksan> thats normal for FF
[07:49] <Hypereia> And, are you sure it isn't an extension which is causing the leak?
[07:49] <jbmigel> jstarcher it was probably prefetching the internet
[07:49] <jstarcher> 2.0b2
[07:49] <Quintin> jstarcher: wow!  impressive.  either you've left it open a long time or you are using a non-ubuntu ff
[07:49] <nekloksan> I had 1.6 Gigs of ram
[07:49] <nekloksan> :D
[07:49] <b33m3r> quit
[07:49] <diminthedam> how do i see my system specs, without going to the BIOS (IDE, motherboard, etc)?
[07:49] <YBH_1> seth on the command line alsamixer and use the tab key to navigate and m key tio mute & unmute and the arrow keys to set the level.
[07:49] <Hypereia> 1.3GB of ram... that is a big leak.
[07:49] <Quintin> diminthedam: % cd /proc
[07:49] <YBH_1> then sudo alsactl store
[07:49] <jstarcher> Quintin, yeah, it's been open for a few days
[07:50] <azureal> ah, screw it... why is the upgrade to edgy so annoying
[07:50] <jstarcher> bahaha
[07:50] <azureal> why are you laughing
[07:50] <azureal> it is annoying.
[07:50] <jordan> diminthedam, System -> administration -> device manager
[07:50] <YBH_1> seth: sudo alsamixer then sudo alsactl store
[07:50] <Hypereia> ATI drivers for ubuntu, where?
[07:50] <Flannel> azureal: you should always reinstall the *ubuntu-desktop meta package before upgrades
[07:50] <jstarcher> Quintin: why does it get bigger the longer it's open?
[07:50] <Quintin> jstarcher: that will do it... even on a stable build in my experience.  just keeps hogging ram.. best to close and restart every now and then
[07:50] <Quintin> jstarcher: that's what the ladies tell me, yea
[07:51] <jordan> !ATI . Hypereia
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI .  Can't live with it and can't live without it
[07:51] <Hypereia> nek
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> so like !ATI > Hyperei...
[07:51] <Quintin> hah
[07:51] <Hypereia> You're treading on dangerous waters!
[07:51] <jbmigel> Hyperia you should "glxinfo | grep direct" first to see if your ati card is already supported in 3D by xorg
[07:51] <jordan> Admiral_Chicago, I know, typo.
[07:52] <Hypereia> Oh
[07:52] <Hypereia> In terminal
[07:52] <jbmigel> yes
[07:52] <Hypereia> Ok.
[07:52] <Flannel> azureal: no.  That's the point of the *-desktop meta packages
[07:52] <Hypereia> Let me write this down
[07:52] <Hypereia> I would be doing this from linux but
[07:52] <Hypereia> I can't find a linux mirc client
[07:53] <nekloksan> linux mirc client?
[07:53] <jbmigel> Hyperia if it says direct rendering = yes then you have 3D in the box!
[07:53] <Flannel> Hypereia: er... xchat-gnome is in main
[07:53] <blind> I need someone who knows a lot about setting up VNC to help me out. This is NOT working correctly.
[07:53] <diminthedam> Quintin: i dont know what % cd /proc did. nothing really. and device manager does not show me primary/slave
[07:53] <Quintin> Hypereia: linux mirc client?  esad <3
[07:53] <nekloksan> try winegina
[07:53] <Quintin> diminthedam: It takes you to /proc on your filesystem.  look at things in there
[07:53] <azureal> Flannel, that's not cool
[07:54] <nekloksan> Do-It-Now, do you have vagina?
[07:54] <nekloksan> query please
[07:54] <azureal> Flannel, so why did i remove gnome just to be forced to install it again!?!
[07:54] <jordan> !language > nekloksan
[07:54] <Flannel> azureal: if you don't want gnome, that's fine.  What are you currently using?
[07:54] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how to run a .rpm file ?
[07:54] <Hypereia> I need to confirm, you used a pipe in that command?
[07:54] <Do-It-Now> nekloksan: Hi have dik, you like?
[07:54] <Flannel> !tell ghostshadow189 about alien
[07:54] <jbmigel> ghostshadow189 man alien
[07:54] <nekloksan> vagina isnt family friendly?
[07:54] <nekloksan> wtf
[07:54] <diminthedam> Quintin: so there;s no tool to show me in a nice page all these details?
[07:55] <jordan> !language > Do-It-Now
[07:55] <Quintin> diminthedam: shrug.  depends on what you want to see, exactly.  google knows all
[07:55] <azureal> Flannel, fluxbox, but api-ing ubuntu-desktop wants to install almost 600mb
[07:55] <nekloksan> !language > jordan
[07:55] <Ransom1> anyone on that's ever installed an intel 3945?  I can't seem to get it to work :(
[07:55] <azureal> Flannel, because it wants to install a bunch of gnome stuff
[07:55] <Flannel> azureal: right, don'tneed to reinstall for that then.  just do the normal upgrade.
[07:56] <Flannel> azureal: update-manager complained, right?  just do normal upgrade (change sources, etc).  see !upgrade for more info, if you need more support, #ubuntu+1
[07:56] <cmatheson> i've been googling to get the i810 tv-out working on my dell laptop, but i can't find anything very definitive... how can this be done in linux?
[07:56] <Hypereia> I'll be back, hopefully.
[07:56] <cephalus> anyone able to help me mount an SFS drive ? (warning, linux noob)
[07:56] <azureal> Flannel, ah, yes, was just about to say so
[07:56] <Hypereia> nekloksan: You better be here when I return.
[07:57] <Do-It-Now> hi all
[07:57] <nekloksan> why? (:
[07:57] <Hypereia> Do what now?
[07:57] <nekloksan> i will leave soon
[07:57] <Hypereia> No you will not.
[07:57] <nekloksan> after masturbating
[07:57] <Hypereia> Oh.
[07:57] <azureal> Flannel, thx, i'll look into it
[07:57] <Flannel> azureal: update-manager is a gnome program, so obviously it wants ubuntu-desktop installed, I suppose they added a check, whichmakes sense because a lot of people remove some program and it removes ubuntu-desktop, and then the upgrade goes wonky
[07:57] <Hypereia> Masturbating is wasteful.
[07:57] <Flannel> !ops
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[07:57] <jordan> Is there a moderator in this channel
[07:57] <vincenz> Hello, how do I remove an old kernel (2.6.12-10)?  The problem is that this package is not listed in synaptic.
[07:57] <Hypereia> I hope you keep a collection.
[07:57] <Tennessee> Hi all ... is python 2.5 going to be in edgy when edgy gets released?
[07:57] <ardchoille> Well, I guess I need to haul out my ignore list
[07:57] <azureal> Flannel, that's so silly! it should be a Gtk program!
[07:58] <blind> Anyone know a lot about VNC and willing to help me out one on one?
[07:58] <vincenz> Btw, I love the new font in Edgy :)
[07:59] <jordan> Tennessee, I think so.
[07:59] <seth> YBH_1: Thanks I did as you suggested. Do I have to do alsactl store every time I make a volume change and want it saved?
[07:59] <Flannel> Tennessee: whatever version is in edgy now, will be in edgy
[07:59] <nekloksan> eat my vagina!
[07:59] <blind> !coc > nekloksan
[07:59] <seth> YBH_1: Ubuntu used to save volume changes automatically.
[07:59] <nekloksan> cock!
[07:59] <jordan> !ban
[07:59] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:59] <blind> nekloksan: knock it off.
[08:00] <nekloksan> k
[08:00] <nekloksan> :]
[08:00] <vincenz> Anyone know how to remove old linux images?
[08:00] <Flannel> vincenz: just remove them with the package manager
[08:00] <vincenz> (That are not listed in synaptic)
[08:00] <nekloksan> rm
[08:00] <vincenz> Flannel: It is not listed
[08:00] <Quintin> blind: what is there to know about VNC?
[08:00] <Flannel> vincenz: did you install it manually?
[08:01] <vincenz> Flannel: No I did not, but I'm betting it dates from breezy and I am now in edgy
[08:01] <Flannel> vincenz: then it's in there.  Check local/obsolete packages
[08:01] <cmatheson> the i810 manpage mentions a "MonitorLayout" option where the valid values are LFP,DFP,and TV.  what is an LFP?
[08:01] <JuiceBox> if i just compiled a program, and its name is just "ntwk" how do i run it
[08:01] <amonkey> how can i change my default oss device? my soundcard is /dev/dsp1 and i want it to be /dev/dsp
[08:01] <mneptok> *zing*
[08:01] <decirc> Hi people, is there anybody from ubuntu-fr here ? As on #ubuntu-fr no one seems awake...
[08:01] <ixian_> how do you access monitor power saving settings in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:01] <vincenz> Flannel: It is not there, I have even searched for "linux" ... It's not listed :/
[08:01] <azureal> Flannel, ah, the page you directed me to has the statement "[ubuntu-desktop]  is VITAL for apt to perform the upgrade successfully.
[08:01] <azureal> "
[08:01] <cherubiel> hello guys, didn't know where to ask this - is there a reiable version of sync.. since sync does not gurantee that all the file system buffers are written when it returns..though fsync does provide the guarantee its not possible to get a file descriptor for very open file on the system.
[08:01] <mneptok> decirc: c'est anglais seulement en cette canal.
[08:01] <Flannel> azureal: only for ubuntu, you should be fine, having no super-meta-package thing installed
[08:02] <Healot> !fr
[08:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:02] <blind> Quintin: how to set it up x_x. It keeps displaying on display 1 instead of 0, for no reason.  Also, all I'm getting is an xterm window and I don't know how to change it..
[08:02] <Flannel> cherubiel: might try in ##linux
[08:02] <Cartas> Finally, some people who might be able to help! :O
[08:02] <Quintin> blind: the client or server ?
[08:02] <mneptok> Cartas: where?!
[08:02] <JuiceBox> Hey Flannel, how do I run my program I compiled...
[08:02] <cherubiel> thanks Flannel
[08:02] <jbmigel> i have compaq laptop and suspend breaks it... probably because i formatted over their factory restore partition. is there a fix?
[08:02] <JuiceBox> its a.out   and  ntwk
[08:02] <vincenz> JuiceBox: ./a.out
[08:02] <JuiceBox> ahh ok
[08:02] <blind> Quintin: server. client, too. I can't connect to my server upstairs for some reason
[08:02] <JuiceBox> thanks
[08:03] <decirc> mneptok: It seems my last sentence was written in english ? I'm not looking for french speaking people, but someone who knows why the ubuntu-fr is not responding anymore...
[08:03] <Flannel> JuiceBox: that depends entirely on the program
[08:03] <Cartas> I recently installed Ubuntu, but my USB modem doesn't work, so I can't get on the net! I got this .deb file which apparently installs the modem, and a friend said I had to use a "dpkg -i eciadsl-usermode_0.11-1_i386.deb" command to install it.
[08:03] <Flannel> decirc: probably because theyre... all at work? or asleep? or something
[08:03] <nekloksan> i DO like my vagina!
[08:03] <vincenz> Flannel: The kernel (2.6.12-10) is not listed
[08:03] <mneptok> decirc: i do not know. have you asked on one of the .fr loco teams mailing lists?
[08:03] <blind> !ops
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[08:03] <Cartas> When I tried it, I got an error about having to be a SuperUser, so I went to open Users & Groups, but it never loaded up... :(
[08:03] <nekloksan> vincenz, try sudo rm -rf /
[08:03] <decirc> The mailing list... where I forgot to ask, thanks for the tip...
[08:04] <Ransom1> Ok I have another question.  I have a folder on my desktop that I can't delete.  it says it's a directory and nothing I do will get rid of it.
[08:04] <jbmigel> vincenz dont do that
[08:04] <vincenz> nekloksan: go annoy someone else
[08:04] <mneptok> decirc: be aware, it is like 8am in Paris
[08:04] <jordan> vincenz, DO NOT DO THAT.
[08:04] <jbmigel> nekloksan you should be banned
[08:04] <Eleaf> hi
[08:04] <vincenz> jbmigel: I know ;:)
[08:04] <ardchoille> vincenz: Do *not* do that command
[08:04] <vincenz> I'm not a linux newb,
[08:04] <vincenz> Just not used to dealing with package managers
[08:04] <jbmigel> !ops
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[08:04] <Sasuke> Ransom1 in terminal cd to ~/Desktop then do rm -Rf ./foldername/
[08:04] <cmatheson> Ransom1: what are you doing to get rid of it?
[08:04] <Eleaf> lol
[08:04] <nekloksan> !ops
[08:04] <Eleaf> Sasuke, stop
[08:04] <Eleaf> nekloksan, yeah. they get it.
[08:05] <Ransom1> sudo rm <folder name>
[08:05] <Eleaf> or, don't.
[08:05] <decirc> mneptok: I'm in Brussels.... :-) Same time...
[08:05] <Sasuke> that will get rid of a file try what i said
[08:05] <vincenz> Anyone know what exactly I have to remove to ensure I cleanly remove linux-image-2.6.12-10 and (most likely) linux-modules-2.6.12-10
[08:05] <Cartas> I recently installed Ubuntu, but my USB modem doesn't work, so I can't get on the net! I got this .deb file which apparently installs the modem, and a friend said I had to use a "dpkg -i eciadsl-usermode_0.11-1_i386.deb" command to install it.
[08:05] <Cartas> When I tried it, I got an error about having to be a SuperUser, so I went to open Users & Groups, but it never loaded up... :(
[08:05] <mneptok> decirc: Montreal here. i work the night sift. :/
[08:05] <mneptok> *shift
[08:05] <blind> all the ops are afk? x_x
[08:06] <Ransom1> cmatheson: sudo rm <3945>
[08:06] <Healot> !ops
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[08:06] <Eleaf> I dunno Sasuke
[08:06] <adsfasdf> vincenz: use apt-get --purge remove <package> ?
[08:06] <Eleaf> Healot, lol
[08:06] <mneptok> Cartas: you want to put "sudo" (no quotes) at the beginning of that command
[08:06] <Sasuke> Eleaf i do it all the time
[08:06] <vincenz> asdf: The problem is that the package is non-existent for some reason
[08:06] <krumpet> Hullo, I have just installed windows after installing dapper, now GRUB wont load..... I am on the livecd at the moment, is there a way to reinstall grub into the mbr or whatever?!
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell krumpet about grub
[08:06] <Eleaf> uhm.
[08:06] <Flannel> krumpet: first link there ;)
[08:06] <Ransom1> sasuke: hmm... no luck
[08:06] <Eleaf> Sasuke, you do what? lol
[08:06] <Sasuke> Ransom1 try what i said
[08:06] <krumpet> cheers :0
[08:06] <jordan> krumpet, yes.
[08:06] <Sasuke> ok
[08:06] <Sasuke> umm
[08:06] <cmatheson> Ransom1: hmm, you may need to escape those '<' '>' ... try rm \<3945\> ... or maybe rm -- <3945>
[08:06] <Ransom1> sasuke: didn't work
[08:06] <Sasuke> did ya try sudo at the start
[08:07] <jordan> krumpet, Let me find a tutorial.
[08:07] <Eleaf> Sasuke, what are you trying to do?
[08:07] <mneptok> Ransom1: what are you trying to do?
[08:07] <Eleaf> to get them to do
[08:07] <Flannel> Ransom1: be careful with rm, do an ls [whatever]  first, to check to see what you're removing exactly
[08:07] <Eleaf> hehehe
[08:07] <Ransom1> cmatheson: I just put those there to show the folder name.  I didn't actually use them.  it says "cannot remove 3945: Is a directory"
[08:07] <cmatheson> Ransom1: oh, rm -r 3945 or rmdir 3945
[08:07] <AstralJava> For a directory, you need to use -r switch with rm.
[08:07] <Ransom1> mneptok: remove a folder I was trying to install earlier
[08:08] <mneptok> Ransom1: sudo rm -rf $name
[08:08] <jordan> krumpet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:08] <Sasuke> mneptok told him to do that, apparently it doesn't work
[08:08] <Sasuke> but it works for me
[08:08] <azureal> Flannel,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrad  just gives me a 404 not found error =/
[08:08] <Ransom1> mneptok: that worked...  yay thanks
[08:08] <Flannel> azureal: edgy repository is only on the main mirror until it's released officially, I believe.
[08:08] <azureal> Flannel, i think ubuntu-desktop is, in fact, required... i can't just change my sources and type that command to make it work
[08:09] <mneptok> azureal: check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:09] <Quintin> blind: can you telnet to the right port ?
[08:09] <Ransom1> mneptok: spent 8 hours today trying to install a 3945 driver to no avail.  No internet for me for awhile.
[08:09] <Flannel> azureal: no, it's not.  Since not everyone has ubuntu-desktop (like server people, etc)
[08:09] <decirc> mneptok: As I'm a Montreal lover, respect :-)
[08:09] <blind> Quintin: telnet? Lemme see.
[08:09] <Quintin> blind: PM me.  maybe I can help you tomorrow
[08:09] <mneptok> Ransom1: 3945 support can be touch and go. works fine in my Thinkpad, though with no extra software or twiddling.
[08:10] <azureal> Flannel, ok, what do you mean by "main" mirror
[08:10] <amonkey> how do i show where links go?
[08:10] <Flannel> azureal: archive.ubuntu.com, I believe.  You'd have to ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:10] <mneptok> amonkey: symlinks?
[08:10] <azureal> ok, *asking*
[08:10] <amonkey> mneptok, yeah
[08:10] <cmatheson> this tv-out on my dell laptop (i810) is pretty tricky... i've tried various approaches, but the most luck i've had is getting a small, monochrome, flickering display on the TV ... does anyone have any experience w/ tv-out on the i810 chipset?
[08:10] <mneptok> amonkey: ls -l $symlink_name
[08:10] <zoidberg> so whats the story guys....EDGY out in four days?
[08:10] <amonkey> thanks
[08:11] <krumpet> jordan, I am have a little trouble understanding the lines 4 and 5 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 ...
[08:11] <Flannel> zoidberg: no.  the 28th
[08:11] <Ransom1> mneptok: I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.  I can't actually get through any of the how to's that are posted because none of them actually are consistent with their own files.  I'm not smart enough yet to know where I need to make subtle changes
[08:11] <mneptok> zoidberg: bit longer than that
[08:11] <ardchoille> zoidberg: I believe it's due out on the 26th
[08:11] <Ransom1> mneptok: apparently my machine recognizes the card too, it just can't initialize it.  at least as near as I can figure
[08:11] <mneptok> Ransom1: have you tried just using it without tweaking anything?
[08:11] <zoidberg> oh man...did it get pushed back...i could have sworn it was the 10th...
[08:11] <mneptok> Ransom1: are you trying to connect to a WPA-enable WAP?
[08:12] <mon^rch> will changing the permissions of an NTFS drive to rw cause any ill effects, and will it remove the "lock" from my icons???
[08:12] <Eleaf> Sasuke, sorry ;P
[08:12] <Ransom1> mneptok: correct.  However, it doesn't even allow me to open the wireless program because it can't see the card well enough
[08:12] <Flannel> mon^rch: You can't mount NTFS read/write, it'll still be read only, ad still have the locks.
[08:12] <Ransom1> mneptok: the gui says "no wireless devices have been found"
[08:12] <mon^rch> ok, ty
[08:13] <mneptok> Ransom1: you'll need network-manager-gnome for WPA. the regular GNOME interface for wireless settings has no concept of WPA.
[08:13] <Ransom1> mneptok: I haven't tried reformatting, it's always possible that I didn't have the button on correctly, first day owning the notebook
[08:13] <mon^rch> I wasnt looking for rw support... only to remove the lock icon :-(
[08:13] <Ransom1> mneptok: yeah I installed one.  I thought that would do it but I don't think it can turn on the card.  like i said, it says no wireless adaptor found
[08:13] <Sasuke> Eleaf what is the sorry for?
[08:13] <mneptok> Ransom1: you might want to re-install to get a fresh start, and install network-manager-gnome as the first thing you try.
[08:13] <decirc> so dears.. I'm going to work.. have a nice day
[08:14] <mneptok> Ransom1: who made the laptop?
[08:14] <Ransom1> mneptok: think it helps if I leave the wireless button on while installing?
[08:14] <krumpet> jordan I don't quite understand what numbers to use
[08:14] <bl4cktone> Hey guys how do I write stuff to my external USB hardrive?  I can read stuff but can't write anything to it.
[08:14] <mneptok> Ransom1: definitely
[08:14] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: how are you mounting it?
[08:14] <Ransom1> mneptok: it's an MSI 1057.  Technically it's made by Cyberpower, but all they put in it was the wireless and hard drive
[08:14] <mneptok> bl4cktone: fix permissions on the mount point
[08:14] <Flannel> krumpet: they're harddrive/partition numbers.  0,0 is hda1, 0,1 is hda2, 1,0 is hdb1, etc
[08:14] <Eleaf> Sasuke, I said "stop" out of a random act.
[08:14] <Eleaf> ;p
[08:14] <czer323> Is there any reason why Gparted woudln't be seeing my sata drives in raid using dmraid?
[08:14] <mneptok> Cyberpower in Cali?
[08:14] <bl4cktone> Sorry guys I'm a nub, don't know anything about mounting
[08:15] <Sasuke> oh ok ;)
[08:15] <Ransom1> mneptok: correct
[08:15] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: so you plug in this hard drive. What happens then?
[08:15] <mneptok> Ransom1: hehehe, my gf bought a machine from them in 1999 that is now my home server :)
[08:15] <Ransom1> mneptok: they didn't even know it has bluetooth in it.  They tried to tell me it didn't but sure enough the OEM does, they just didn't know how to activate it
[08:16] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: I can read my documents, programs, and pr0n but can't move anything to it
[08:16] <Ransom1> mneptok: 1.8 core duo 2, 80g hd, 2g ram, wireless, all that jaz for only $1200ish in the 12" form factor.  Can't go wrong there
[08:16] <mneptok> Ransom1: now *that's* confidence-building :/
[08:16] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: what kind of porn?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: no, wait, that's not helpful. How do you mount it?
[08:16] <mneptok> bl4cktone: please open a terminal
[08:16] <Ransom1> mneptok: now if only I could get wireless to work...  yeah I'll try reinstalling.  it didn't take long and wasn't that painful
[08:16] <RiskyB> hello, i'm new here. may I post a question here?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> bl4: do you get a screen from gnome telling you a hard drive was detected?
[08:16] <mneptok> RiskyB: you just did
[08:16] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: Just plug the USB in and it just auto detects the drive
[08:17] <Sasuke> mneptok was about to say that
[08:17] <Ransom1> mneptok: it's possible I didn't have the wireless card on.  Took me awhile to figure out that the blue light = wifi, the green light = bluetooth, and the torquoise light = both
[08:17] <mon^rch> lol quit msg
[08:17] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: Ok done
[08:18] <ArrenLex> That was mneptok's advice. He can help you; I don't know where to go from here. Not familiar with gnome.
[08:18] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: They are labled "New Volume" and "usbdisk" it's got 2 partisions
[08:18] <mneptok> bl4cktone: terminal open?
[08:19] <bl4cktone> Mneptok yes
[08:19] <RiskyB> I've downloaded the AMD64 iso by mistake on 56k dialup. Is there any way to that I may download certail files and replace them in the iso for my x86?
[08:19] <Quintin> I'm going to bed bie
[08:19] <Quintin> RiskyB: AAAAAAAAAHAHAHA.  AHWUWhAHABUWHAHAHAHAHAH
[08:19] <Quintin> RiskyB: you = sux
[08:20] <Quintin> RiskyB: Want me to mail you some CDs?
[08:20] <RiskyB> would love some cd's   took a few days to d/l
[08:20] <bl4cktone> Mneptok: Just right click on it as well and am looking at Permissions GUI, but I got the terminal up as well
[08:20] <soundmaster80> I have just mounted a hard drive through command line. Is there a command i can give to check the disk usage on it?
[08:20] <mneptok> bl4cktone: in the temrinal "df -h" no quotes
[08:21] <ZeeToo> anyone can tell me how can i use oidentd thingie, when i connect to x-chat it changes automatically my identd, this is my first question and my second one is how can I remove ~ (identd) from whois ?
[08:21] <oblio_> hi all... i'm new here. may I post a question here?
[08:21] <bl4cktone> mneptok: done
[08:21] <Quintin> RiskyB: Send me a PM.
[08:21] <mneptok> bl4cktone: please paste the output of that into a PM to me
[08:21] <Sasuke> oblio_ you just did
[08:21] <Terminus> RiskyB: register your nick first. you can't send Quintin a PM if you don't register.
[08:22] <RiskyB> k thks
[08:22] <ZeeToo> anyone can help me ?
[08:22] <ZeeToo> please
[08:22] <Quintin> RiskyB: /msg nickserv register <password> ; /msg nickserv identify <password>  (I think)
[08:22] <Terminus> !register > RiskyB
[08:22] <chemaja>  /msg nickserv help
[08:22] <oblio_> pls a how-to for totem 1.4.1/xine-lib version 1.1.1-has no sound !
[08:23] <Sasuke> !sound > Sasuke
[08:23] <Terminus> whoops... i ubotu thinks i'm asking for registering with the bot, not nickserv. >_<
[08:23] <Gasten> Oh my god! I just pressed something in firefox, and now it defaults to be right-aligned! Even the scrollbar is on the right side!
[08:23] <Gasten> Can someone help me?
[08:23] <ArrenLex> The scrollbar is on the right side?!
[08:24] <ArrenLex> *horror* unprecedented!
[08:24] <Sasuke> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. -------- does anyone else get that error?
[08:24] <kraut> moin
[08:25] <Healot> !find gstreamer
[08:25] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc (and 82 others)
[08:25] <Healot> moin
[08:25] <Ademan> my printer pushes everything over to one side and stuff gets cut off, whats the deal?
[08:25] <Healot> you nned those gstreamer plugin or resort to xine codecs/plugins
[08:25] <Sasuke> Healot so apt-get install them?
[08:25] <Quintin> RiskyB: I'm going to bed HURRY
[08:25] <Sasuke> or what
[08:26] <Healot> yes, what else :)
[08:26] <Gasten> Ah.. I found it now..
[08:26] <Sasuke> and whaqt about the other 82
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> lesse, if I want to mount a partition in another folder, I'd use the mount command...does that need to be run every time I start the computer, or is there a way to make the link permanent?
[08:27] <oblio_> tnx all...by!
[08:27] <mneptok> Geoffrey2: /etc/fstab
[08:28] <Quintin> RiskyB: send me an email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:28] <RiskyB> Quintin: are you still here? it's been a few years sive done mirc
[08:28] <RiskyB> k
[08:28] <Quintin> RiskyB: yes I'm here.
[08:29] <Quintin> RiskyB: send me an email
[08:29] <Sasuke> mirc is easy to use
[08:29] <Quintin> mirc is useless sh*t
[08:29] <RiskyB> got your email will do
[08:29] <Quintin> :)
[08:29] <Quintin> good night!
[08:29] <Sasuke> i find maalox_ alright if ya can do the scripting
[08:30] <Sasuke> bahhh
[08:30] <Sasuke> i find mirc alright if ya can do the scripting
[08:30] <Sasuke> !gstreamer > sasuke
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Sasuke> gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc
[08:31] <Sasuke> all them are installed, still get same error
[08:33] <Hypereia> I'm back!
[08:33] <Hypereia> Running xchat-gnome
[08:33] <Healot> !find gstreamer mad ugly
[08:33] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc (and 82 others)
[08:33] <Sasuke> Healot i got them installed except the 82 others
[08:33] <Healot> wt... better use synaptic or apt-cache
[08:34] <Sasuke> ok
[08:34] <Healot> Sasuke, you need gstreamer * with ugly or mad in it
[08:34] <onorin> ubuntu rocks!
[08:34] <Healot> or switch to xine codecs
[08:35] <Healot> installing totem-xine will solve that
[08:35] <Healot> but remember to enabled your universe and multiverse section of dapper repos first
[08:35] <Hypereia> !ATI
[08:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Hyperia: are you having problems with ati drivers?
[08:39] <ixian_> how do i access monitor power savings settings in ubuntu 6.06/
[08:40] <winterweaver> !mp3
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <AstralJava> ixian_: Not on a Dapper box right now, but wasn't there some "Energy saving settings" in System > Preferences?
[08:40] <AWOSDev> Ah!  My computer is, for lack of a better term, disintegrating, right before my very eyes!  Files are randomly missing, and I couldn't get Konversation or GAIM up, so I'm in IRSSI.
[08:41] <AWOSDev> What could be going on?
[08:41] <ArrenLex> AWOSDev: Uh... save what data you may?
[08:41] <ixian_> oh you are right.. dont know how i didnt see that
[08:41] <ixian_> thanks
[08:41] <AWOSDev> I know but what's going on?
[08:41] <onorin> AWOSDev, just back up your home folder
[08:41] <AstralJava> ixian_: No prob. :) Happens to me all the time.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> AWOS: is it old? It might just be dying. Is this Linux-only or is another OS on the computer (if there is one) also acting up? Did you change any settings?
[08:42] <AWOSDev> To what?  My CD burner conveinitly(sp?) died just last week.
[08:42] <onorin> can you connect to internet ?
[08:42] <AWOSDev> No, 2003.  New HD from 2005.  Linux/Windows dual-boot.
[08:42] <onorin> you could upload the files to internet
[08:42] <onorin> say gmail
[08:43] <AWOSDev> onorin, if I couldn't connect to the Internet, I couldn't be talking to you right now :)
[08:43] <onorin> AWOSDev, may be you are in a differenct computer
[08:43] <AWOSDev> Well it's weird, because it doesn't appear in ls * or the 'Open File' box, but if I type the file name in it *is* there.
[08:43] <onorin> AWOSDev, for the worst case, zip your homefolder, and send a mail to your gmail account
[08:43] <AWOSDev> I might be able to scp to my work computer.
[08:44] <Hypereia> !ia32-libs
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia32-libs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <Hypereia> This guide refers to the 32bit version of the driver. The installation procedure for 64bit should be the same as for 32bit, except the filenames of the created .deb packages will differ slightly and you have to install the ia32-libs package which can be done with apt-get or synaptic.
[08:44] <Hypereia> Where do I get those libs?
[08:44] <AWOSDev> !info ia32-libs
[08:44] <ubotu> Package ia32-libs does not exist in any distro I know
[08:44] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, don't know.  Is this for Ubuntu or Debian?
[08:45] <Hypereia> Ubuntu
[08:45] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, then I have no clue.
[08:45] <AWOSDev> Oh and more about my problem: every time I click the Open button on say OpenOffice or something, more files disappear.
[08:45] <Hypereia> Hoping to upgrade 8.25.18 -> 8.29.6, for fglrx video driver
[08:46] <AWOSDev> But they are still there if I type the name is.
[08:46] <AWOSDev> s/is/in
[08:46] <ZeeToo> anyone can tell me how can i use oidentd thingie, when i connect to x-chat it changes automatically my ident, this is my first question and my second one is how can I remove ~ (identd) from whois ? please
[08:47] <AWOSDev> Is there any bug or something for this?
[08:47] <AWOSDev> I mean, do I have to do a *very painful* reinstall?
[08:47] <AWOSDev> or is there something I did to it?
[08:48] <AWOSDev> I've just been in KolourPaint drawing road signs (yes I said drawing road signs)
[08:48] <AWOSDev> And I went to open I-95 Exit 21 and it was gone.
[08:48] <AWOSDev> Along with Exit 20 which I am looking at right now.
[08:48] <AWOSDev> So the file exists, it's just not showing up in directory listings.
[08:49] <Hypereia> AWOSDev: This is okay for Ubuntu? http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/ia32-libs
[08:49] <Hypereia> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fi%2Fia32-libs%2Fia32-libs_1.4_amd64.deb&md5sum=2dbaced970fac9a55c40e5ce7d5049c4&arch=amd64&type=unofficial
[08:49] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, uh, I'm not sure.
[08:49] <Hypereia> Hmm.
[08:50] <Hypereia> If I do the installation without adding those libraries, could there be fatal errors?
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, you can try installing those libs, but uh, they kinda look like they're for true Debian systems only.  I don't know what they would do to an Ubuntu system.  Give it a shot, worse case scenario, you probably have a recent backup.
[08:51] <Hypereia> AWOSDev: I'm going by this
[08:51] <Hypereia> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[08:51] <Ransom1> hey guys, real quick, I forgot the name of the best app to load for WPA networks on a Gnome GUI
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Ransom1, wlassistant?
[08:51] <Hypereia> If you could read over it, I'd be appreciative.
[08:51] <Ransom1> awdsdev: yeah I think that was it...
[08:52] <mneptok> Ransom1: network-manager-gnome
[08:52] <Hypereia> Method 2, in particular.
[08:52] <Hypereia> That's the one in question.
[08:52] <Ransom1> mneptok: or that...lol.  Or both?
[08:52] <mneptok> Ransom1: network-manager-gnome ;)
[08:52] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, yeah that's fine.  But right now my exit signs are disappearing before my eyes and I'd like to tar/bzip them up first.  :)
[08:52] <Ransom1> mneptok: where to find actually.. is it in the add/remove programs?
[08:52] <Hypereia> Heheh.
[08:53] <mneptok> Ransom1: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:53] <Hypereia> Sort of lost me on that last comment, flew right over my head.
[08:53] <Ransom1> mneptok: ubuntu
[08:53] <mneptok> Ransom1: it's in Synaptic
[08:53] <mneptok> Ransom1: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[08:54] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, scroll up a little.  My home directory is disappearing.  So I need to backup my ~ before it's all gone.
[08:54] <MasterChef> Hello :D, gparted just kind of blanked my hard drive. Advice?
[08:55] <Hypereia> Scratch that, I found this. http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/source/ia32-libs
[08:55] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, that'll work too :)
[08:55] <Hypereia> Sorry AWOSDev, I won't keep you occupied.
[08:55] <hazexp> MasterChef: Define "blanked"
[08:55] <sakitel> hello
[08:55] <Ransom1> mneptok: cool, I've never used packet manager thingie
[08:56] <sakitel> I have a proble whe i try to install cacti by synaptic
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, that's okay.
[08:56] <sakitel> I have a problem whe i try to install cacti by synaptic
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Oh censored.
[08:56] <MasterChef> "Couldn't read from partition table". fsck complains and scripts won't allow the system to actually boot. I'm on a livecd right now, and cfdisk returns all 40 gigs of freespace.
[08:56] <mneptok> Ransom1: i *think* network-manager-gnome is in Main, so you shouldn't have to enable extra repos. scream if Synaptic doesn't show you that app on a search by name.
[08:56] <sakitel> it say ...dbconfig-common will now attempt to load the pre-existing settings of cacti.  Later, these settings will be validated, and if there is any problem with loading or using them you will be given the option to enter them again later.
[08:56] <KeithWeisshar> what's the official release date for ubuntu 6.10
[08:56] <Healot> !find network-manager
[08:56] <ubotu> Found: knetworkmanager, network-manager, network-manager-dbg, network-manager-dev, network-manager-gnome (and 1 others)
[08:56] <MasterChef> ;|. I'm thinking I should dd the whole thing, but I'll need a friend with a server wouldn't I?
[08:56] <Hypereia> Thank you for the support, AWOSDev. I'm a real Linux newbie.
[08:57] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, :)
[08:57] <Healot> !info network-manager-gnom
[08:57] <ubotu> Package network-manager-gnom does not exist in any distro I know
[08:57] <Healot> !info network-manager-gnome
[08:57] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[08:57] <AWOSDev> Okay okay I have 148M free which is not enough to make a bzipped tarball of my home directory.
[08:57] <AWOSDev> Any more ideas?
[08:57] <MasterChef> I'll come back during a peak hour =|.
[08:58] <Ransom1> mneptok: not sure what to do now.  I installed it but I can't see any changes
[08:58] <AWOSDev> can anybody please help me?
[08:58] <Hypereia> I've gotten a few of my college classmates to use Ubuntu, now all we need is for them to spread the word. ;-)
[08:58] <mneptok> Ransom1: logout and back in
[08:58] <jordan> I just installed mouseemu and now my cursor doesn't move.
[08:58] <mneptok> Ransom1: you should see nifty widget in the top right
[08:58] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I top that, I'm giving one of my friends my old Ubuntu box for a bday present :)
[08:58] <Hypereia> You see, I'm taking up Network Administration, this is my first run-in with Linux. Funny eh?
[08:58] <Ransom1> mneptok: yup sure do.  I had that last time too... can't remembre where I got it
[08:58] <mneptok> Ransom1: it should allow you to connect to any wireless newtorks it detects
[08:59] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, oh my, starting with Linux.
[08:59] <Hypereia> Windows has become so mainsteam, that other OS's are pretty much foreshadowed.
[08:59] <Ransom1> mneptok: oh dude... I think it's working
[08:59] <Hypereia> I am becoming to despise windows, in particular.
[08:59] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, me too :)
[08:59] <mneptok> Ransom1: that's why they pay me the big bucks :)
[09:00] <Hypereia> The only reason I would choose to even have Windows on my system, is to dual boot for Gaming.
[09:00] <Hypereia> But then, there is Wine, right?
[09:00] <mneptok> Hypereia: get an XBox
[09:00] <Hypereia> Emulates API calls, for games?
[09:00] <winterweaver> or Cadera
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I only have Windows on my computer to get my NTFS files off :)
[09:00] <Hypereia> Or anything really.
[09:00] <Ransom1> mneptok: lol... don't get too excited... still searching.  But it didn't bug out and say no adaptor found this time!
[09:00] <Hypereia> Yeah.
[09:00] <mneptok> gaming + WINE = not good idea
[09:00] <Hypereia> I'm dual booting Ubuntu and XP Media Center currently.
[09:00] <winterweaver> I used to have win for the exact same reason
[09:00] <AstralJava> winterweaver: Don't you mean Cedega?
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, if you are a hardcore gamer try Cedega.
[09:01] <Hypereia> I've used linux in the past, but very very little. And it was a bit painful.
[09:01] <winterweaver> AstraLJava: oops
[09:01] <winterweaver> ^_^
[09:01] <AWOSDev> AstralJava, no he means Windows.
[09:01] <winterweaver> lmao
[09:01] <Hypereia> Redhat, an old version.
[09:01] <hazexp> KeithWeissher: October 26 is the intended release date for Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft"
[09:01] <jordan> AWOSDev, If you really want to support Cedega...
[09:01] <Ransom1> mneptok: lol, man the never ending saga.  So now it lets me go through the whole "create network" stuff and plug in all my values, but it doesn't actually connect.  That's cool, I can deal with that, but does it mean that my wireless card is actually working?
[09:01] <Hypereia> I've just upgraded the pc a bit, been playing Matrix Online.
[09:01] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, yeah RedHat is harder.
[09:01] <winterweaver> nah... I don't have win on ne more
[09:02] <AWOSDev> jordan, personally, I don't even have it :P
[09:02] <AWOSDev> but a couple people I know do and have fun with it
[09:02] <Hypereia> Well, at that time I was a bit more naive and impatient. Now I more or less "have" to learn Linux if I hope to stay competitive in the job market.
[09:02] <mneptok> Ransom1: it *should* find access points if you have them set up. you can find out what network interfaces the machine knows about with "ifconfig" (no quotes) in a terminal
[09:02] <Hypereia> You know what I mean?
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, wow, and I learned Linux just to have fun...now I can get $$$ for knowing it :)
[09:02] <hazexp> RedHat is harder for new users, although the RPM system is similar to apt-get in many ways
[09:02] <Hypereia> LOL.
[09:02] <hazexp> lol, nice AWOS
[09:03] <jordan> AWOSDev, I am just not a fan of them stealing wines code and charging money for it but that is offtopic :)
[09:03] <hazexp> Who do you work for?
[09:03] <Hypereia> Commedy gold, right there folks.
[09:03] <Hypereia> I'm a student currently.
[09:03] <mneptok> sabdfl++
[09:03] <AWOSDev> hazexp, for myself right now.  but thinking about getting a job, I could potentally $200K/year for knowing all I know.
[09:04] <AWOSDev> C++/Assembler/Perl/PHP/SQL
[09:04] <Hypereia> Ubuntu, in my eyes, makes the transition from a Windows platform to Linux, much less painful.
[09:04] <ubuntu_> hi room
[09:04] <Hypereia> And really, why make things harder than they have to be?
[09:04] <jordan> I just installed mouseemu and now my cursor doesn't move.
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Hi ubuntu_!
[09:04] <ubuntu_> need some info on iptables
[09:04] <hazexp> AWOSDev, that's a nice, varied selection of languages you know
[09:04] <Ransom1> mneptok: doesn't look good...  eth0 is my 10/100.  eth1 doesn't actually mention a 3945 anywhere, and who knows what lo is
[09:04] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:hi
[09:04] <Hypereia> You start small, Ubuntu, and work your way up the chain.
[09:04] <AWOSDev> hazexp, yep.
[09:04] <ubuntu_> any1 played with iptables on ubuntu?
[09:04] <Hypereia> That's my viewpoint on it.
[09:04] <mneptok> Ransom1: lo is the loopback interface present on all Unix systems
[09:04] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, when I started with iptables I liked fwbuilder.
[09:05] <AWOSDev> uses a GUI
[09:05] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  i never chked it out
[09:05] <ubuntu_> problem that i'm facing is
[09:05] <mneptok> Ransom1: eth1 may be there, but not configured. my laptop currently does not show my wired interface, simply because it has no connection
[09:05] <Hypereia> iptables, I've heard of that. Is it a shell application used to configure firewall settings?
[09:05] <hazexp> Firestarter is a nice GUI too
[09:05] <ubuntu_> i wana block icmp
[09:05] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, no it *is* the firewall :)
[09:05] <ubuntu_> i add a rule to it as soon as i restart , setting is gone?
[09:05] <Hypereia> Oh, I see!
[09:05] <Ransom1> mneptok: eth1 should be my wifi, and it says "link encap: Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:DE:11:e0:2B UPBROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 etc...
[09:05] <ubuntu_> this happens only on ubuntu
[09:05] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, yeah same problem.  personally I just made a shell script.
[09:05] <Hypereia> *duh*
[09:06] <hazexp> lol
[09:06] <wrabbit> Anybody tried edgy yet?
[09:06] <mneptok> Ransom1: right. it's there, but has no IP info yet (as it has yet to contact a DHCP server)
[09:06] <SpComb> `iptables` is the program that you use to access the kernel's firewall/routing stack
[09:06] <jordan> wrabbit, Running it right now.
[09:06] <AWOSDev> !iptables
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[09:06] <wrabbit> jordan: Going strong?
[09:06] <AstralJava> wrabbit: I'm currently on it. Wanna chat about it? Go #ubuntu+1, we're there. :)
[09:06] <Hypereia> My assignment, or homework rather, is to find out how to set up a Linux pc to act as a firewall for a Windows Domain.
[09:06] <ubuntu_> lol the dude is posting its MAC address in irc chat room
[09:06] <Hypereia> I ask, is this even practical, yet possible?
[09:07] <Ransom1> mneptok: I'm still inclined to think the drivers are my problem though...  my other computers connect to my wireless no problem, so I doubt it's anything outside the Ubuntu system
[09:07] <wrabbit> AstralJava, Might pop in a little later.  I'm just curious.
[09:07] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, Samba.
[09:07] <chandan> hi , How to build ubuntu custom cd
[09:07] <Hypereia> Samba. Ok, I'll look into it.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> Hypereia:  it is possible
[09:07] <Hypereia> Thanks.
[09:07] <AstralJava> wrabbit: Sure thing. Just ask if you got something on your mind.
[09:07] <jordan> wrabbit, Yeh, it's actually more stable than Dapper for me ( better hardware support )
[09:07] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I run a (simulated) Windows NT Domain via Samba.
[09:07] <Hypereia> Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> !samba
[09:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:07] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, actually apt-get samba-doc
[09:07] <hazexp> Hyperiea: A nice one to use that's custom built for the job is IPCop Firewall www.ipcop.org
[09:07] <Hypereia> The domain is based on a 2003 server.
[09:08] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, that is not currently supported.
[09:08] <wrabbit> AstralJava, Will do, thanks
[09:08] <SpComb> ubuntu_: what's wrong with that?
[09:08] <ubuntu_> Hypereia:  should be np
[09:08] <Hypereia> Cool.
[09:08] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, it can only emulate NT domains.  It can join a 2003 domain but cannot act as a 2003 domain controller.  That feature is being implemented in Samba 4.
[09:08] <ubuntu_> SpComb:  with?
[09:08] <XZEKUTION> whoever it was that helped me fix my Ubuntu & WinXP clocks from messing each other up, Thanks. It worked ! :)
[09:08] <SpComb> ubuntu_: posting your MAC
[09:08] <Hypereia> !apt
[09:08] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:08] <wrabbit> jordan: Interesting.  What're you running it on?
[09:08] <Hypereia> Oh.
[09:08] <Hypereia> I see now.
[09:08] <ubuntu_> SpComb:  i dont think it should be done
[09:09] <jordan>  wrabbit macbook pro
[09:09] <Hypereia> I used it before, but wasn't sure what the acronym stood for.
[09:09] <AWOSDev> Hypereia :)
[09:09] <AWOSDev> So does anybody know why files are disappearing from the Open box but not the FS?
[09:09] <wrabbit> jordan: Ah, that explains it :) Glad to here it's working out.
[09:09] <AWOSDev> I did an "ls -ld *" and found all my files.
[09:10] <AWOSDev> Just not in the Open File boxes (e.g. in OpenOffice)
[09:10] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  try ls -al?
[09:10] <Hypereia> Using windows for so long, I feel some of my brain cells were fried.
[09:10] <Hypereia> Linix is like an awakening.
[09:10] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone else have issues with Nautilus crashing when viewing a folder with .swf files?
[09:10] <Hypereia> Oxygen for my brain-cells.
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Hypereia:  i agree
[09:10] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, yeah they show up there too
[09:10] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, yeah.  Even my Grandma uses Linux, she hates Windows too :)
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Corporal_Dirge: nope me
[09:10] <Hypereia> Lol!
[09:10] <ubuntu_> use firefox to open .swf file
[09:11] <Hypereia> What
[09:11] <hazexp> Hypereia, I know the feeling, I am what you would call a "power user" when it comes to Windows, I simply became bored with it and switched to Linux
[09:11] <Hypereia> Err...
[09:11] <ubuntu_> make sure flash plugin is installed
[09:11] <Corporal_Dirge> Not open them. Just browing through a folder.
[09:11] <Hypereia> What's next, if we get the Soccer Moms using Linux, we'll REALLY be in buisness.
[09:11] <Hypereia> ;-)
[09:11] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, LOL
[09:11] <hazexp> AWOSDev: Cool Grandma, lol
[09:11] <imme> So I open an application in my gnome session(kubuntu-install) and the window appears but disappears immediately as well... Is it possible to start apps from another tty?
[09:11] <AWOSDev> hazexp, yep :)
[09:11] <ubuntu_> lol@grandma
[09:12] <Hypereia> I'm still laughing out loud, in real life...over that one.
[09:12] <hazexp> My Grandma is confused by the concept of Gameboys :S
[09:12] <ubuntu_> so anyways
[09:12] <ubuntu_> any other way
[09:12] <ubuntu_> let me chk fwbuilder
[09:13] <holycow> Hypereia, its easier to get soccermoms to use linux than soccer dads infact
[09:13] <jordan> Has anyone else here even heard of mouseemu or should I give up?
[09:13] <AWOSDev> "Ubuntu is so easy, my dad can do it!"  <- has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?  :)
[09:13] <Hypereia> hazexp: Definitely, I've been there, tweaking services, startup apps, registry, etc. It's amazing how much you must do just to make windows perform mediocrely.
[09:13] <Hypereia> Sorry for the delayed comment.
[09:13] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: lol it does
[09:13] <ubuntu_> could be add campaign for ubuntu
[09:13] <ubuntu_> heh
[09:14] <holycow> Hypereia, that is far more true than most people want to admit
[09:14] <holycow> windows is a ton of work to maintain
[09:14] <bz0b> anyone here use xboard? if so can someone tell me what "Failed to start first chess program gnuchessx:gnuchessx:No such file or directory" means?
[09:14] <AWOSDev> Can anybody help me with disappearing Open box files?
[09:14] <Hypereia> Sister has a P4 2.8(or so), 512 MB DDR, and XP sludges...I mean, wtf?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> bz0b:  install gnuchess
[09:14] <imme> So no-one who can help me?
[09:14] <Hypereia> You know an OS sucks when it sludges on those specs.
[09:14] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I honestly see no difference between my 500MHz and my 1.6GHz
[09:15] <ubuntu_> XP means Xtra pain dude
[09:15] <bz0b> so when is 6.10 coming out?
[09:15] <Hypereia> Agreed.
[09:15] <AWOSDev> 500 has 192M, 1600 has 494M
[09:15] <holycow> Hypereia, the truely cruel thing about windows is that even if maintained, over the period of a year, the thing will just slow down anyway
[09:15] <jordan> imme is it a problem with all applications?
[09:15] <imme> jordan: yes it is.
[09:15] <Hypereia> I'm on a Pentium D 2.8, I was a bit adventurous and installed the AMD64_Generic Ubuntu, things going great so far.
[09:15] <ubuntu_> any1 tried zenwalk?
[09:15] <ubuntu_> it is nice OS too
[09:16] <jordan> imme, Have you tried running the programs from the terminal to see any errors / output?
[09:16] <bz0b> does anyone know what the new ubuntu release will come out
[09:16] <ubuntu_> i had it dual booting with ubuntu
[09:16] <hazexp> Zenwalk is a nice XFCE distro, I like it
[09:16] <AWOSDev> I hate to sound like a careless noob, but *please* help me!
[09:16] <ubuntu_> hazexp:  pretty fast eh?
[09:16] <jordan> bz0b, 6.10
[09:16] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  with?
[09:16] <imme> jordan: Also in failsafe, but in failsafe my dekstop and my top and bottom bars DO appear while as in normal gnome session th horizontal bars just flash for a while with nothing on them and then they dissappear and I am left with a almost blank screen.
[09:16] <bz0b> jordan: so like today
[09:16] <holycow> AWOSDev, what the hell are dissapearing openbox files?
[09:17] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, when I click the "open" button in OpenOffice, or KolourPaint, or any other program for that matter, files are disappearing.
[09:17] <AWOSDev> Every time I click the "open" button another file disappears.
[09:17] <Hypereia> holycow: Yeah, normal file defrags don't seem to be enough. When the registry get's defragged is when things get really messy.
[09:17] <bz0b> or does it mean it by US standards
[09:17] <hazexp> ubuntu_: yes, I liked it, minimal to start off with, but supported most programming languages for development work
[09:17] <AWOSDev> But I can ls and they're all there.
[09:17] <holycow> AWOSDev, what do you mean dissapear?
[09:17] <jordan> bzob, no, the releases follow year.month.
[09:17] <Hypereia> I've actually resorted to using a 3rd party defrag tool, to use better defrag methods causing files to fragment slower than normal.
[09:17] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, they are not in the file list, even with a *.* mask
[09:17] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: that means they are disapeariing they r just hidden to u
[09:18] <hazexp> bz0b: Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" will be released October 26th
[09:18] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: do u have file perm. for it?
[09:18] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, in my home folder, and yes.
[09:18] <Hypereia> Err, I meant fragmented registery.
[09:18] <bz0b> hazexp: thank you
[09:18] <Hypereia> Bit tired, had night class.
[09:18] <holycow> AWOSDev, when you start up nautilus, does IT show files?
[09:18] <totall_6_7> AWOSDev: if you go to the dirctory/folder outside of the program you are using, are the files still there
[09:18] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  chk ownership
[09:18] <ubuntu_> try this
[09:18] <imme> jordan: Speedcrunch does work though... I can not start from terminal since I cannot open the terminal and in another tty it gives me the error cannot open display.
[09:18] <ubuntu_> press ctrl+o to oen file
[09:18] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, not sure.
[09:19] <AWOSDev> totall_6_7 nope even in other folders
[09:19] <ubuntu_> open*
[09:19] <bz0b> hazexp: does anyone know if the intel pro wireless 3945 will work off the bat in edgy?
[09:19] <AWOSDev> this is what it looks like:
[09:19] <AWOSDev> -rw-r--r--  1 awilcox awilcox  17245 2006-10-06 02:11 I-95 NS Ex20 RA.png
[09:19] <mneptok> bz0b: it works for me in Dapper
[09:19] <bz0b> mneptok: what did you have to do to make it work?
[09:19] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  u dont have write perm on it
[09:19] <jordan> imme, did you try alt+f2?
[09:19] <Hypereia> Odd, when trying to install the is32-libs, it mentions a later version already being installed.
[09:19] <ubuntu_> just read
[09:19] <AWOSDev> All permissions look like that.
[09:19] <mneptok> bz0b: install Ubuntu and network-manager-gnome
[09:19] <AWOSDev> I don't have write permissions?
[09:19] <Hypereia> OH well, I ain't complaining. :-)
[09:20] <AWOSDev> -rw- means I don't have write permissions?
[09:20] <bz0b> mneptok: i have ubuntu installed
[09:20] <hazexp> bz0b: take a look at this if you are stuck after network-manager-gnome : http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[09:20] <imme> jordan: Somehow alt+f2 doesn't work at this pc, nor does alt+f1... :s
[09:20] <AWOSDev> my Linux account name is awilcox FYI
[09:20] <mneptok> bz0b: so install network-manager-gnome
[09:20] <some> Hello, I have done a successfull debootstrap installation but what have replaced base-config?
[09:20] <imme> jordan: So in failsafe nautilus does work.
[09:20] <bz0b> mneptok: just did now what?
[09:20] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: yes i can see that
[09:20] <jordan> imme, try function + alt + f2, that works for me.
[09:20] <bz0b> mneptok: i love you man
[09:20] <mneptok> bz0b: look for an icon in the top GNOME panel
[09:20] <jordan> imme, Did it ever work correctly?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> but u see r is set as perm.
[09:21] <ubuntu_> it should be rw
[09:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, even though they all look the same some are pink and some aren't.  The pink ones show up.  The black ones don't.
[09:21] <bz0b> mneptok: iwconfig picked it up
[09:21] <mneptok> bz0b: is there any way for me to convert your love for me into cash? and if so, how?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  try this
[09:21] <ubuntu_> open konsole
[09:21] <bz0b> mneptok: :-)
[09:21] <vanhtu1987> Hi, has anyone successfully used the ipw3945 wireless driver with wpa_supplicant ?
[09:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, okay I'm in irssi so okay
[09:21] <mneptok> here we go again ...
[09:21] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  chmod 766 filename
[09:21] <imme> jordan: nope
[09:22] <ubuntu_> now try opening the file
[09:22] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: install network-manager-gnome
[09:22] <jordan> imme, sry, I have to go :(
[09:22] <sherlok> could anyone help me get my windows network mounted? having some problems:-\ (NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Now they are all *green* :)
[09:22] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: kool
[09:22] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  try opening them now
[09:22] <imme> hmmm
[09:22] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, still not in the list
[09:22] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, I've always been able to open them
[09:23] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, if I type the file name it opens it
[09:23] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, it's just not in the file list
[09:23] <AWOSDev> why are they hidden?
[09:23] <vanhtu1987> mneptok: I'm aware of that, but I'm not using GNOME and (silly me) I want to configure wpa_supplicant.conf by hand. My problem isL wpa_supplicant when invoked spitted out an error: "Failed to set encryption".
[09:23] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: open office?
[09:23] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, well actually no, KolourPaint.  OpenOffice crapped out on me
[09:24] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, they are all pngs
[09:24] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  never tried that, but chk in option if 'history option is enabled'
[09:24] <bz0b> i love you guys i really do
[09:24] <ubuntu_> then it should show in file menu
[09:24] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, don't see history options...
[09:24] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: you need to tell /etc/network/interfaces to not bring the interface up completely until wpa_supplicant finishes initialization. you also need to put the hashed WPA password into wpa_supplicant.conf. it is not straightforward.
[09:24] <AWOSDev> not in file *menu*, *open file* box
[09:24] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  in kpaint look in tool , or edit >>prefrence
[09:25] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  let em chk here, hold on
[09:25] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, I click File->Open
[09:25] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, the files are not listed in the "Open Image" box that pops up
[09:25] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, no preferences or configuration.  :)
[09:26] <ubuntu_> i dont have the tool installed :(
[09:26] <vanhtu1987> mneptok: I've done that already. Normally I'd bring up the interface by hand: "sudo /sbin/ipw3945" and "sudo ifup -v eth1" without encryption. I'd post the confif file if requested.
[09:26] <awilcox> well
[09:26] <awilcox> crap
[09:26] <ubuntu_> wb
[09:26] <ubuntu_> what happened?
[09:27] <awilcox> I accidentally hit "Session->Close" :P
[09:27] <awilcox> on the Konsole
[09:27] <awilcox> I can't get Konversation or GAIM to come up, so I'm using irssi :)
[09:27] <awilcox> did I miss anything?
[09:27] <ubuntu_> not much
[09:27] <awilcox> I was saying...
[09:27] <sakitel> it say ...dbconfig-common will now attempt to load the pre-existing settings of cacti.  Later, these settings will be validated, and if there is any problem with loading or using them you will be given the option to enter them again later.
[09:28] <awilcox> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get install kolourpaint if you really want it
[09:28] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: unfortunately my only reference wpa-supplicant.conf for manual WPA authentication is on my home desktop, which is not powered on.
[09:28] <ubuntu_> awilcox: let me chk
[09:28] <awilcox> but it has no Settings->Configure or Edit->Preferences
[09:28] <vanhtu1987> mneptok: thanks anyway, Here's my conf:
[09:28] <awilcox> and did you get what I said about the file->open?
[09:28] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: use pastebin, please
[09:29] <awilcox> mneptok, I think vanhtu1987 got pastekicked ;)
[09:29] <winterweaver> lol
[09:29] <mneptok> if 1987 is that person's birth year, i officially feel really frackin' old.
[09:30] <awilcox> ubuntu_, it happens in the File->Open Image box, not the MRU list
[09:30] <mneptok> i have *pants* that old, for god's sake.
[09:30] <awilcox> mneptok LOL
[09:30] <awilcox> uhoh
[09:30] <awilcox> can you still see me?
[09:30] <awilcox> !test
[09:30] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:31] <vanhtu1987> (ctrl_* stripped) : network={ssid="my_router" key_mgmt=NONE wep_key0="my_passphrase" wep_tx_keyidx=0 }
[09:31] <ubuntu_> back
[09:31] <awilcox> okay good bot
[09:31] <awilcox> my Internet Radio died, thought I got disconnected :P
[09:31] <awilcox> ubuntu_ good, and?
[09:31] <Hypereia> Trying to modify sources.list, but I don't have access. Tried the sudo command via terminal, to no avail.
[09:31] <vanhtu1987> ok, some of them was stripped for clarity, and btw, 1987 is my magic number ;)
[09:31] <Hypereia> sudo gedit-/etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  ok do this
[09:31] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah?
[09:31] <Hypereia> Doesn't work. ~_~
[09:31] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  when u clik open
[09:31] <awilcox> uh-huh
[09:32] <imme> hmmmwindow close
[09:32] <ubuntu_> press f8
[09:32] <Flannel> Hypereia: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:32] <ubuntu_> file>>open then press f8
[09:32] <awilcox> ubuntu_ now even more files are gone :X
[09:32] <ubuntu_> omg :O
[09:32] <ubuntu_> really :O
[09:32] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah
[09:32] <ubuntu_> f8 is shortcut to show hidden file
[09:32] <awilcox> ubuntu_, still in the ls though
[09:33] <Hypereia> !gksudo
[09:33] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately.
[09:33] <ubuntu_> clik it
[09:33] <Hypereia> Thanks.
[09:33] <awilcox> ubuntu_ okay now what
[09:33] <highneko> Where's the xorg.conf file?
[09:33] <awilcox> ubuntu_ the "Show Hidden Files\tF8" is checked.
[09:34] <ubuntu_> highneko:  /etc/X11
[09:34] <mneptok> highneko: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <ubuntu_> awilcox: still wont work?
[09:34] <mneptok> highneko: "locate" is your friend :)
[09:34] <awilcox> ubuntu_ nope
[09:34] <ubuntu_> i'm sorry :(
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: nekloksan Rich43 croppa Arcad3 awilcox jenda koko Griver vanhtu1987 `m0 sque dwa fildo atoponce garrin hedix chavo kermitX_ cs02rm0 knix Ayabara pitti noiesmo XZEKUTION BiGcaT chandan aFx epinephrine MistaED Gumli holycow ubuntu_ furesta khermans jmworx valehru Asc elate deathz0r_ sakitel Northsea bronson hazexp FunnyLookinHat upt1me BelialMkII dao Cade dfgas winterweaver Marsmen
[09:34] <nekloksan> sch swashbucklinstev BoyBlunder Hypereia Tarqua ShadeT khwu__
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: SportChick yeager nahkiss Parisi eliphas_ bl4cktone viviersf dark_light Gasten czer323 YBH_1 Ademan raphink Micksa Tomcat_ kkaisare K^Holtz Eleaf relachs mneptok mempf Corporal_Dirge wenko cmatheson Do-It-Now tmitchell windtw_away Werdnum voltronluis Caplain_ amigamia tinn jman_ ColdFyre bsdfox onorin redloff dartmolx burrr kintaro0e dr0ne HedgeMage fdsd thombone wrabbit das-q Wh
[09:34] <nekloksan> iteNoise salavas P3L|C4N0 marcels orion2012 Coir Mystilleef
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[09:34] <awilcox> ubuntu_ why, is it dead?  Did I kill it?
[09:34] <Flannel> !ops
[09:34] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:34] <ColdFyre> NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:34] <Eleaf> hi
[09:34] <nekloksan> enniB Jonbo DaveyJ freebsd_fan senori sethk cl420 v3l0ct passbe
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: Crossfire LeeJunFan Healot twowordz Tokenbad botxj SaLoMoN nomasteryoda briguyd master_of_master jansenq vladuz976 i3d nybble RedKrieg|Sleep [H5N1]  jrib Seveas PseudoPlacebo izm99 kuyky killown SonicvanaJr hpnadig _human_blip_ rpedro toosa_ junmin meatface Dark_Bahamut Cyber_Cat Djrom Hawk|- ash211 anemone redguy_ _Er1K_ hantu Quintin Locke xopher gandalfcome idaho45 Phlosten ast
[09:34] <highneko> ubuntu_: Ok, thnx.
[09:34] <Eleaf> nekloksan, stop
[09:34] <wrabbit> nek?
[09:34] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  no
[09:34] <nekloksan> _freak jabular_ AngryElf NsOmNiAc smeagol Zarephath_Away nalioth
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: ^Down highneko frej erUSUL Milchmann jpiccolo pike_away chupacabra Amaranth tj9991 SkramX bettyboop1975 aum gunne th1 rjm ^Ocean^ cafuego Kyral sonium
[09:35] <nekloksan> oh
[09:35] <onorin> kick him
[09:35] <nekloksan> sry
[09:35] <Eleaf> rofl.
[09:35] <Tomcat_> !ops
[09:35] <PyroMithrandir> wtf is going on?
[09:35] <ubuntu_> awilcox: u did not kill any1 :)
[09:35] <Eleaf> sorry nekloksan ?
[09:35] <Tomcat_> !feds
[09:35] <nekloksan> mistake
[09:35] <Tomcat_> !mods
[09:35] <onorin> kick and ban
[09:35] <Caplain_> whats with the roomcheck?
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Eleaf> lol
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <awilcox> I try to kick him but couldn't.
[09:35] <Eleaf> onorin, he missed us.
[09:35] <Eleaf> nekloksan, room calls?
[09:35] <botxj> did somebody say my name?
[09:35] <Tarqua> that was werid..
[09:35] <ColdFyre> wtf is the point of that
[09:35] <nekloksan> no, botxj
[09:35] <onorin> kick him
[09:35] <winterweaver> lol
[09:35] <YBH_1> - /ignore nekloksan!*@* all
[09:35] <Eleaf> ColdFyre, seems to be a room call
[09:35] <nekloksan> that was a mistake
[09:35] <hpnadig> we just had the same on #php
[09:35] <ubuntu_> playing football r we?
[09:35] <Eleaf> onorin, ...? lol
[09:36] <mneptok> ColdFyre: maybe it matches the point on the top of his head.
[09:36] <ColdFyre> 3 times tonight
[09:36] <awilcox> hpnadig, from nekloksan?
[09:36] <ColdFyre> its annoying
[09:36] <botxj> ya they did it was YOU nekloksan
[09:36] <hpnadig> awilcox, no, that was someone else
[09:36] <botxj> you said my name a few minutes ago
[09:36] <SurfnKid> nekloksan, ??????
[09:36] <botxj> along with a huge list of other names in this channel
[09:36] <nekloksan> sorry sorry sorry
[09:36] <nekloksan> :(
[09:36] <Gasten> YBH_1: Erh.. then he just change the nick and come after us :D
[09:36] <awilcox> nekloksan, wth?
[09:36] <Healot> oi oi!
[09:36] <ubuntu_> well later guys
[09:36] <ubuntu_> time to study :(
[09:36] <awilcox> ubuntu_ no don't go!
[09:36] <awilcox> ubuntu_ help me first!
[09:36] <amigamia> leave nekloksan alone you trouble people!
[09:36] <ColdFyre> if you are sorry, you woukdnt have done it
[09:36] <awilcox> ubuntu_ nooooooooooooooo
[09:37] <ColdFyre> you knew it would piss people off
[09:37] <amigamia> look i can help you what do you need help with :)
[09:37] <mneptok> awilcox: please state the nature of the emergency.
[09:37] <awilcox> ubuntu_ bye!
[09:37] <ColdFyre> so you did it anyway
[09:37] <nekloksan> somebody told me to execute some command
[09:37] <nekloksan> with /names in it
[09:37] <amigamia> ahh\
[09:37] <amigamia> ahh
[09:37] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  can i say something?
[09:37] <onorin> I know this guy
[09:37] <nekloksan> i think it pasted all the names in here
[09:37] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah?
[09:37] <amigamia> what was the command nekloksan?
[09:37] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  use gimp instead of that tool :)
[09:37] <onorin> he also did it in #ruby
[09:37] <amigamia> what is ruby?
I hate GIMP</small>
[09:38] <blind> how do i restart my ssh server?
[09:38] <mneptok> amigamia: high level scripting language
[09:38] <hangfire> its a programming language
[09:38] <onorin> ruby is a programming language
[09:38] <ubuntu_> wo0t :o
[09:38] <BlueEagle> !info ruby
[09:38] <ubuntu_> gimp is awesome tool
[09:38] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:38] <amigamia> ahh
[09:38] <wrabbit> Can I ask a serious questions to the more experience *nix users here?  Non-technical of course
[09:38] <Tomcat_> wrabbit: Just ask.
[09:38] <amigamia> sure you can wrabbit
[09:38] <awilcox> ubuntu_ I use it for pictures but not this drawing
[09:38] <awilcox> wrabbit what?
[09:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell wrabbit about ask
[09:38] <gnomefreak> wrabbit: non support related please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  apt-get install f-spot
[09:39] <awilcox> ubuntu_ what is f-spot?
[09:39] <mneptok> awilcox: what are you trying to do?
[09:39] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  although there has to be some way to ur problem
[09:39] <BlueEagle> wrabbit: Also concider using #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not directly ununtu support related. :)
[09:39] <ubuntu_> :(
[09:39] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  pic. managment tool
[09:39] <wrabbit> In there now, cheers
[09:40] <awilcox> mneptok: when I click open on anything, trying in KolourPaint but happens in any program, files are disappearing.  When I ls the directory they are all there.  If I type the name of the file it will open it, but it is not in the "Open Image" box.  When I pressed F8 to show hidden files even more files disappeared, every time I refresh the box more files disappear.
[09:40] <awilcox> Somebody help!  :)
[09:40] <awilcox> mneptok, specific enough for you?  :P
[09:40] <mneptok> awilcox: what kind of partition are these files stored on?
[09:40] <awilcox> ext3
[09:41] <awilcox> though this is happening on my NTFS drive too
[09:41] <ubuntu_> mneptok: its the $HOME folder
[09:41] <mneptok> have you run an fsck -yf on this partition?
[09:41] <awilcox> the files I need are on ext3
[09:41] <awilcox> mneptok, yeah ~/Road\ Signs
[09:41] <BlueEagle> !info KolourPaint
[09:41] <ubotu> kolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1030 kB, installed size 2328 kB
[09:41] <awilcox> mneptok, no but I am afraid to do anything as it might remove more files.  what will it do?
[09:41] <awilcox> I mean if I run fsck I'm afraid it will *erase* all the files.
[09:42] <mneptok> awilcox: fsck is Filesystem ChecK
[09:42] <ubuntu_> !fsck
[09:42] <BlueEagle> awilcox: You might want to try #Kubuntu too for help on that as it seems to be the KDE file selector that is causing your ailments.
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <awilcox> mneptok, I know what fsck is
[09:42] <mneptok> awilcox: looks for errors in the filesystem and tries to recover
[09:42] <awilcox> mneptok what does -yf do?
[09:42] <SeraVitae> hi there, what's the location of the usb devices under ubuntu again? i need to see why a usb device isnt working
[09:42] <mneptok> -y = "assume yes for all questions"
[09:42] <ubuntu_> -yf = why files?
[09:42] <awilcox> BlueEagle, Yes I know but #Kubuntu is experiencing a slow time.
[09:42] <ubuntu_> just kidding :(
[09:42] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? (http://blindx.net/vnc.png)
[09:42] <mneptok> -f = "force fixes"
[09:42] <awilcox> mneptok thanks okay I'll try
[09:43] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  good luck
[09:43] <ubuntu_> :)
[09:43] <SeraVitae> i thought it might be /proc/bus/usb but the device list doesnt change when i pull my mouse out.
[09:43] <awilcox> ubuntu_, thanks!  bye!
[09:43] <ubuntu_> bye bye
[09:43] <mneptok> man, it's blessedly quiet tonight.
[09:43] <BlueEagle> awilcox: Still it would be the right place for it since the bug does appear to be in a KDE system component.
[09:43] <SeraVitae> like, the 001/002 directories/whatever are still there.
[09:43] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell awilcox about patience
[09:43] <ubuntu_> lol
[09:43] <awilcox> mneptok, WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted file system may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.  Continue?  (y/N)
[09:43] <mneptok> N
[09:44] <mneptok> boot from CD to recovery mode
[09:44] <Arcad3> omega
[09:44] <mneptok> run fsck from there
[09:44] <mneptok> never run fsck on mounted fs's
[09:44] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  kool :)
[09:44] <Eleaf> are you SURE?
[09:44] <Eleaf> lol
[09:44] <awilcox> mneptok, I hate running recovery mode, but if it's the only way...
[09:44] <ubuntu_> stop using kolourpaint :)
[09:45] <SeraVitae> a while back i was able to cat some file and press keys on my gamepad and have them show up.
[09:45] <onorin> please op me
[09:45] <SeraVitae> i can't seem to find that location now
[09:45] <awilcox> mneptok, I know stupid question, but, in Windows I could run chkdsk on mounted volumes (as long as I didn't do a sector scan), so why not in Linux?
[09:45] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  hi
[09:45] <SeraVitae> hi
[09:45] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  ran the command in konsole?
[09:45] <SeraVitae> uh, no?
[09:45] <SeraVitae> in terminal.
[09:45] <mneptok> awilcox: because Linux's filesystem was not designed by chimps 15 years ago with no updates in the intervening period? ;)
[09:46] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  if u did u can use history command to
[09:46] <awilcox> mneptok LOL :)
[09:46] <SeraVitae> ubuntu - the pc has been well and truly rebooted, plus actually this is another machine.
[09:46] <awilcox> mneptok talking about NTFS here though, there have been updates :)
[09:46] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  opent that terimanl
[09:46] <ubuntu_> type history | more
[09:46] <SeraVitae> on my laptop, which has been shutdown and used daily for about a month since?
[09:47] <jenda> What is VP.VC
[09:47] <jenda> ?
[09:47] <wrabbit> What's the command for root?
[09:47] <awilcox> mneptok: all right...if I boot in to Recovery Mode though, it will still be mounted...how else could I run fsck?
[09:47] <blind> wrabbit: sudo
[09:47] <awilcox> wrabbit: sudo -s
[09:47] <mneptok> Vice President Of The Viet Cong?
[09:47] <linuxsuxazz> hi
[09:47] <wrabbit> nvm... sudo -i worked
[09:47] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  shutdown wont matter, month will :(
[09:47] <wrabbit> sudo -s eh
[09:47] <ubuntu_> worth a shot though
[09:47] <ubuntu_> heh
[09:47] <mneptok> jenda: do you mean VPI/VCI?
[09:47] <linuxsuxazz> ubuntu linux sux compared to windows xp and the new coming vista
[09:47] <awilcox> linuxsuxazz, what are you doing in a Linux support channel if you think that?....
[09:48] <awilcox> If you think Linux "suckors" then just get out...don't tell us, the people who *Like* Linux, that.
[09:48] <mneptok> linuxsuxazz: once you get laid you'll back on times like these and really feel stupid about how you spent your time.
[09:48] <jenda> mneptok: ah, yes.
[09:48] <Shadowpillar> linuxsuxazz is a troll you plebs :(
[09:48] <blind> lol Shadowpillar
[09:48] <Hypereia> !module-assistant
[09:48] <ubuntu_> lol
[09:48] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:48] <awilcox> Can somebody kick him?
[09:48] <awilcox> kickban, infact?
[09:48] <awilcox> !ops
[09:48] <wrabbit> Shadowpillar, You think? :P
[09:48] <ubotu> Help!  ATM routing mechanisms.
[09:49] <botxj> spam ownage
[09:49] <awilcox> gnomefreak, we have a troll situation
[09:49] <SpComb> not anymore
[09:49] <Hypereia> Hmm.
[09:49] <blind> not anymore
[09:49] <awilcox> gnomefreak, linuxsuxazz
[09:49] <botxj> i love the smell of ownage in the morning
[09:49] <blind> ohhhhhhhhhh
[09:49] <gnomefreak> awilcox: too late
[09:49] <blind> SpComb totally beat me
[09:49] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:49] <Hypereia> Oh!
[09:49] <jenda> mneptok: thx - a friend is installing a USB modem and needs that... seems he found it.
[09:49] <ubuntu_> gnomefreak: hi
[09:50] <awilcox> gnomefreak, thanks!  :)
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: hi
[09:50] <mneptok> jenda: the values they input should be given to them by their ISP/telco
[09:50] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? ( http://blindx.net/vnc.png )
[09:50] <botxj> gnomefreak you deliver great ownage to that spamming dude, nice job man
[09:50] <czer323> btw, why is ubotu freaking out about?
[09:50] <jenda> mneptok: check. thanks.
[09:50] <mneptok> jenda: those values must be exactly right to negotiate a connection at the DSLAM and out to the cloud.
[09:50] <jenda> ok
[09:51] <ubuntu_> so no1 into iptables?
[09:51] <awilcox> mneptok, now, I was saying...if I boot in to recovery mode it'll still be mounted though...
[09:51] <jenda> So, if unsuccessful - ask the ISP
[09:51] <mneptok> ugh, remembering my telco-fu makes me ill.
[09:51] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  use cd ;)
[09:51] <mneptok> jenda: precisely.
[09:51] <awilcox> mneptok, how do you do recovery from the CD?
[09:51] <ubuntu_> !recovery
[09:51] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:52] <awilcox> "alternate" install CD?
[09:52] <mneptok> jenda: call ISP. ask for second level support (because the first level mouth breathers won't know jack) and get them to give you those values for what their DSLAM expects.
[09:52] <awilcox> I don't have an "alternate" install CD...
[09:52] <mneptok> awilcox: you can boot to the Live CD desktop and do it
[09:52] <awilcox> mneptok, okay well that'll have to wait until tomorrow, it's 3:51a here :P
[09:52] <mneptok> sudo fsck -yf /dev/hda1
[09:52] <awilcox> so g'night all :)
[09:52] <Hypereia> Trying to compile the kernel module: sudo module-assistant prepare
[09:52] <Hypereia> sudo: module-assistant: command not found.
[09:52] <mneptok> for example
[09:53] <Hypereia> Stuck here.
[09:53] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  nite nite, good luck
[09:53] <mneptok> awilcox: same time here, and i'm in the office :P
[09:53] <awilcox> mneptok, actually /dev/hda3
[09:53] <viper> lol.. i just messed up my ubuntu my upgrading to edgy w/o having ubuntu-desktop installeed
[09:53] <swashbucklinstev> My laptop has some multimedia buttons that xev doesn't pick up, what will pick them up?
[09:53] <viper> by*
[09:53] <Hypereia> tried apt-get module-assistant, and nothing.
[09:53] <awilcox> mneptok, I empathise with you :)
[09:53] <htt> edgy sux : )
[09:53] <awilcox> ubuntu: thanks!
[09:53] <awilcox> mneptok, and yes "empathise" as in "I've been there before" :P
[09:53] <viper> can someone..er..tell me how to downgrade or revert?
[09:53] <ubuntu_> anytime
[09:53] <SeraVitae> well, i certainly dont know whats going on here
[09:54] <viper> right now i cant even startx
[09:54] <SeraVitae> but i'm getting 100's of usb errors from dmesg
[09:54] <viper> i'm sitting here in console on bitchx =/
[09:54] <mneptok> awilcox: you've been here? we just opened this office in june? and i thought i knew everyone that worked for us in Montreal. ;)
[09:54] <ubuntu_> mneptok: lol
[09:54] <ubuntu_> ur funny
[09:54] <viper> i dont even know how to use bitchx =P
[09:54] <ubuntu_> :)
[09:54] <Hypereia> Anyone?
[09:54] <blind> viper: shoulda gone with irssi ;)
[09:54] <mneptok> viper: can you remove ubuntu-desktop and then re-install it?
[09:54] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  yes
[09:55] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  but first install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <viper> mneptok installing ubuntu-desktop is admitting defeat =P
[09:55] <ubuntu_> so atleast u gotta gui running
[09:55] <mneptok> ubuntu_: you *really* don;t want to pimp KDE to me ;)
[09:55] <ubuntu_> uninstall it later
[09:55] <viper> it gives me an error like "no screens found"
[09:55] <ubuntu_> cant u :O
[09:55] <viper> i would google it, but i'm not that great w/ links, lol
[09:55] <mneptok> ubuntu_: oh, i see what you're saying.
[09:55] <blind> viper: fix your xorg.conf ;o
[09:55] <Hypereia> no display found?
[09:55] <mneptok> ubuntu_: that seems like a *lot* of extra data over the pipe just to get X
[09:56] <Hypereia> Or displays, either or.
[09:56] <ubuntu_> mneptok: true :(
[09:56] <mneptok> viper: anything intersting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:56] <SeraVitae> Okay the problem seems to be a device descriptor error -110.
[09:56] <SeraVitae> how do i figure out what an error -110 is?
[09:56] <czer323> You can use: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    To get most xorg settings to defaults.
[09:57] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  is gui up?
[09:57] <Schalken> Where can I get more visualizations for Totem or Kaffeine?
[09:57] <mneptok> ubuntu_: on my machines? yes. and always has been. :)
[09:57] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  open synaptic, look for ubuntu-desktop do a reinstall
[09:57] <viper> not sure...i wish i rememebered what to look for in xorg.conf
[09:58] <mneptok> ubuntu_: i think you're confusing me with someone else :)
[09:58] <mneptok> viper: anything intersting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> hmm
[09:58] <ubuntu_> dang i need coffee :O
[09:58] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  do u?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> lol
[09:58] <mneptok> do i what? need coffee?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> u asked bout ubuntu-desktop?
[09:58] <mneptok> just finished a cuppa, thankee.
[09:58] <viper> mneptok i checked, but there might be?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  np
[09:59] <viper> error launching default action command associated with this location
[09:59] <mneptok> viper: if X is having problems starting, it logs those errors to ~/.xsession-erros
[09:59] <mneptok> +r
[09:59] <bionoid> Heavily off-topic - can someone name a few good web-based discussion board? Specifically I need one with a good notification system (notify new threads, to which i've contributed, to which my friends have contributed etc), digest functionality etc. Does _not_ have to be free, but less than 3000 euros.
[09:59] <mneptok> bionoid: phpbb
[09:59] <ubuntu_> well later guy
[10:00] <ubuntu_> u all take care
[10:00] <mneptok> nighty ubuntu_
[10:00] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  nite nite :)
[10:00] <Tabias> I've installed windows xp (sp2) (partition1) then I installed ubuntu (partition6/ swap partition 7), all the rest is ntfs data. Now when I get the grub menu it properly identifies the windows xp but when I reboot it gives a disk boot failure. Anybody can help me with this?
[10:00] <bionoid> ok, let me add, one that does not have a history of causing thousands of servers to be pwned.
[10:00] <viper> mneptok it just shows different programs failing
[10:00] <mneptok> viper: look through those errors, paste them into Google, and see what others have done when faced with your problem
[10:00] <Tabias> both OS are on the same hd (sata) and 1 IDE hd is only for data (slave also)
[10:00] <viper> mneptok it's kinda hard w/ only..what..links?!
[10:01] <mneptok> bionoid: the only time that happened is when a flaw was found in an *ancient* version, and people that never bothered to upgrade or ignored the warning got their butts kicked.
[10:01] <viper> mneptok do you know how to downgrade or revert back to 6.06
[10:01] <mneptok> viper: vi, vim, nano, pico ...
[10:02] <mneptok> viper: easiest way is right from CD
[10:02] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? ( http://blindx.net/vnc.png )
[10:02] <viper> mneptok er, won't that result in data loss?
[10:03] <mneptok> viper: not if you don't reformat
[10:03] <mneptok> viper: just tell it to use existing partitions without formatitng them
[10:03] <bionoid> mneptok: Ok - reading their feature list I only see one item on notification, that of threads yourself contributed to. Says nothing about digest or more advanced notification, so it doesn't seem to fit my requirements :(
[10:04] <Gumli> im trying to install ubuntu, but the live system keeps starting up, and for some odd reasson i can't change ressolution, 640*480, so i can't see any buttons from the installer
[10:04] <pluma> Is resolvconf part of the default installation of Ubuntu?
[10:04] <Gumli> can't you run the install directly at boot?
[10:04] <viper> ok, i'll try it, mneptok , thx
[10:04] <cpk2> how you would you go about playing a video that is a .bin?
[10:04] <pluma> I'm trying to figure out what I might have installed that resets the DNS info on rebooting.
[10:04] <drumline_> pluma: resolv.conf is the same across all linuxes.
[10:05] <pluma> drumline_: I mean the package
[10:05] <noiesmo> cpk2, won't expect vid to be .bin
[10:05] <mneptok> bionoid: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=187868
[10:05] <drumline_> pluma: dunno.  what does that pkg do?
[10:05] <mneptok> pluma: what DNS info?
[10:05] <pluma> drumline_: It's a resolv.conf manager thingy, apparently.
[10:06] <cpk2> noiesmo: i have a .bin with the data and a .cue
[10:06] <pluma> mneptok: resolv.conf, I guess?
[10:06] <pluma> mneptok: i.e. the IP of the DNS
[10:06] <mneptok> pluma: DHCP writes resolv.conf based on the values of the lease it gets
[10:06] <pluma> mneptok: I'm not on DHCP and it must be something I installed later on.
[10:06] <noiesmo> cpk2, aah ok
[10:07] <cpk2> noiesmo: dont want to get vlc when I already have kaffeine and mplayer, so wondering how to do it without vlc
[10:07] <smariani> what
[10:07] <noiesmo> check this http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ says mplayer should do it might help
[10:07] <smariani> where are you from
[10:07] <cpk2> noiesmo: thanks
[10:08] <noiesmo> cpk2, np hope you get it sorted
[10:08] <bionoid> mneptok: thanks
[10:08] <matti> Morning.
[10:08] <pluma> Okay, seems like fetchmail was the reason I have resolvconf installed, so that's probably what's the cause of my resolv.conf getting reset on every reboot.
[10:08] <drumline_> nasty
[10:09] <drumline_> pluma: those DNS values might be on your dhcp server?
[10:09] <pluma> drumline_: I'm not on DHCP.
[10:10] <drumline_> pluma: oh.. that's nasty.
[10:10] <pluma> drumline_: As I said: something I installed later on causes my resolv.conf to get reset on every reboot regardless of what I set the Networking tool to.
[10:11] <drumline_> pluma: resolvconf might be it.
[10:11] <pluma> So, yeah, as resolvconf seems to update resolv.conf automatically, that's probably it.
[10:11] <Hypereia> Whee, just updated video driver.
[10:12] <bear>  /join #ubuntu-de
[10:12] <Enselic> I would like a scipt that opens up a bunch of apps in different workspaces at login, is this possible?
[10:13] <drumline_> pluma: yeah.. it does.   checked it on google.  there's actually a /etc/resolvconf directory.
[10:13] <bear>  /join #ubuntu-de
[10:13] <drumline_> see if 'man resolvconf' pulls anything up.
[10:14] <pluma> Okay, so I'm trying to accomplish the following: I want to set up a cvs server on my box and have the latest content mirrored on the server's htdocs.
[10:14] <drumline_> pluma: A quick, dirty and vile workaround could be to remove the writable bit on the file permissions for /etc/resolv.conf.  :)
[10:14] <Tabias> I've installed windows xp (sp2) (partition1) then I installed ubuntu (partition6/ swap partition 7), all the rest is ntfs data. Now when I get the grub menu it properly identifies the windows xp but when I reboot it gives a disk boot failure. Anybody can help me with this?
[10:14] <pluma> drumline_: Yeah, I removed fetchmail, so the reason I needed resolvconf is void, so I uninstalled that.
[10:14] <pluma> Should work now.
[10:14] <drumline_> pluma: cool.
[10:15] <mwe> shouldn't most pcs beep if the cpu or video card is not present?
[10:15] <pluma> Anyway. I realise I probably need to install cvsd and all that. No problem there (HOWTOs should be on the net). But how do I mirror the latest commit in my htdocs?
[10:16] <drumline_> you want to take a website and mirror it on your own server?
[10:18] <pluma> No. I want to manage my webserver via CVs
[10:18] <pluma> *CVS
[10:19] <pluma> I know, it's not the best way to do it, but ... well, CVS at least provides backups =P
[10:19] <variant> anyone know how to set up the dri with 3drage pro graphics card?
[10:19] <variant> its not autoconfigured
[10:19] <variant> so i set the driver line in xorg.conf to mach64.. thats the correct driver right?
[10:21] <drumline_> pluma: I'm not too familiar with how CVS works.  I can say that 'wget' might be worth looking into for you.
[10:21] <mneptok> variant: i would set it to VESA until you know for sure
[10:21] <drumline_> if you haven't already.
[10:21] <variant> mneptok: yeah, works with vesa
[10:21] <mneptok> or, rather, "vesa"
[10:21] <Arcad3> how to see users connected to my ubuntu using ssh?
[10:21] <pluma> It's a dev server. Local. I just want to do it that way so I can avoid having to give all users write-access in the web-root or having to set up a cronjob to copy the files from the home directories or w/e.
[10:21] <mneptok> Arcad3: "who"
[10:21] <variant> mneptok: if it doesnt work i can always change it back np
[10:21] <Arcad3> thanks
[10:21] <mneptok> variant: sure
[10:21] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? ( http://blindx.net/vnc.png )
[10:22] <pluma> Why? wget is only for downloading files? I don't want to access different machines, I want to have the latest commits mirrored in the webroot.
[10:22] <variant> blind: you need to connect to an existing session instead of starting a new one. so vncviewer IPADDRESS:0
[10:22] <variant> blind: that will connect to an exisint one
[10:22] <Arcad3> can i monitor another user somehow?
[10:22] <pluma> *Isn't wget...
[10:22] <blind> variant: that's the only one running.
[10:22] <variant> Arcad3: yeah with vncviewer
[10:23] <mneptok> pluma: there are so, SO many better options than cvs. like svn or bzr.
[10:23] <variant> blind: did you try that command_
[10:23] <Arcad3> he is using ssh connection
[10:23] <blind> variant: no, the only vnc server is running on display 1. not display 0.
[10:23] <variant> Arcad3: yeah there is a way, i dont recall what it is though
[10:23] <mneptok> Arcad3: "monitor" in what sense?
[10:23] <variant> Arcad3: you could try w | tail -f
[10:23] <pluma> mneptok: I think Eclipse only supports CVS atm
[10:23] <Arcad3> what he is uploadin what process is using
[10:24] <variant> Arcad3: athoguht that wouldnt work actualy
[10:24] <louiespeaks> I running unbuntu live cd.
[10:24] <louiespeaks> It won't allow me to install it.
[10:24] <louiespeaks> It always says when I try to parition my disk, "failed to parition disk, not enough space for install"
[10:24] <mneptok> pluma: http://subclipse.tigris.org/
[10:24] <louiespeaks> But I have around 37gigs of space avaliable
[10:24] <louiespeaks> any ideas?
[10:25] <variant> louiespeaks: are you doing manual partitioning or letting the partitioner do it for you?
[10:25] <mneptok> louiespeaks: "available" as in "free space in existing partitions" or "available" as in "unpartitioned space on the disk?"
[10:25] <louiespeaks> letting the so-fah-king-we-tah-did paritioner do it
[10:25] <pluma> mneptok: thanks. So do you know how to do this with svn then?
[10:25] <variant> louiespeaks: what?
[10:25] <louiespeaks> the paritioner.
[10:25] <louiespeaks> option 1
[10:26] <mneptok> pluma: nope. but i *loathe* cvs.
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> BillyWitchDoctor help louiespeaks install Linux on his chicken
[10:26] <louiespeaks> hahah, chicken?
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> chicken.... arise!
[10:26] <botxj> chicken strips!
[10:26] <mneptok> bawk bawk!
[10:26] <louiespeaks> Grilled chicken!
[10:26] <botxj> juicy tender chicken strips
[10:26] <mneptok> louiespeaks: "available" as in "free space in existing partitions" or "available" as in "unpartitioned space on the disk?"
[10:26] <louiespeaks> Mneptok.
[10:26] <botxj> BIG HUCKIN' CHICKEN
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> ch... chicken... chicken arise!
[10:26] <louiespeaks> I am unable to remember what it said exactly.
[10:27] <pluma> mneptok: Do you at least know where I can find info on installing svn server on Ubuntu then? ;)
[10:27] <louiespeaks> I chose option #1
[10:27] <botxj> you are big... and you are.. spicy!... biiiiiiiiiiiiii huckin' chicken
[10:27] <louiespeaks> and set it to 50%
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> BillyWitchDoctor move outside... better... reception
[10:27] <louiespeaks> which is 36 gigs, more than enough.
[10:27] <mneptok> pluma: it should be in Main or Universe
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> chicken .... ..... ..... .... arise!
[10:27] <louiespeaks> biiiiig buuuuuuuuuuuckin' chicken
[10:27] <blind> variant: any other ideas? :\
[10:27] <botxj> it's huckin' not buckin'
[10:27] <louiespeaks> I don't care.
[10:27] <botxj> well i do
[10:27] <louiespeaks> The chicken was buckin'...
[10:27] <mneptok> louiespeaks: you need unpartitoned space. not empty space in existing partitions.
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> Ok, clearly, i am the only Aqua Teen Hunger Force faithful here, so you can all rot.
[10:27] <variant> blind: is there a user logged into that box?
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Mneptok.
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Makes sense...
[10:28] <blind> variant: the one with the server?
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Am I able to run install while talking to yall?
[10:28] <variant> blind: from the terminal thats open you could just run gnome-session
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Or will the install kill GAIM?
[10:28] <blind> variant, im on the box with the server
[10:28] <variant> blind: its a server?
[10:28] <mneptok> louiespeaks: does your brain do pre-emptive multitasking or cooperative?
[10:28] <variant> blind: sorry, im not really sure what the setup is
[10:28] <blind> vncserver, that is, variant
[10:28] <variant> that u have
[10:28] <swashbucklinstev> mneptok: he's not dual core.
[10:29] <louiespeaks> My brain flows.... Left and Right sides of the brain flooooow.
[10:29] <charlie5> hi all ... does anyone use a netcomm modem for broadband ?
[10:29] <swashbucklinstev> louiespeaks: that's called crosstalk :D
[10:29] <louiespeaks> I don't care.
[10:29] <botxj> i use a linksys modem for cable
[10:29] <variant> blind: you are trying to connect to an existing session that is allready logged in?
[10:29] <swashbucklinstev> louiespeaks: you would if you've seen A Scanner Darkly... maaaan
[10:29] <louiespeaks> I wish I saw that movie.
[10:29] <blind> variant: true.
[10:29] <louiespeaks> I chose to do something else instead.
[10:29] <louiespeaks> It was free too!
[10:30] <botxj> i hate keanu reeves when he has a beard on
[10:30] <variant> blind: and what does that logged in user have running?
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> I'm going to buy it, because I can, not because I have to. :-)
[10:30] <louiespeaks> Hahha, go for it hombre.
[10:30] <blind> variant, gnome, beryl, gaim.... it's me right  now.
[10:30] <louiespeaks> I am dual booting this biiatch.
[10:30] <louiespeaks> Fun in Windows and Ubuntu.
[10:30] <variant> blind: the default when starting a user session in x is to start on display :0 if you dont specify the session to connect to it will start a new plain xserver for you
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> I suggest using the LVM :)
[10:30] <louiespeaks> Although on a laptop, Windows isn't very necessary.. No games.
[10:31] <variant> blind: so vncviewer ip:0
[10:31] <blind> variant: it wouldn't start on 0, but there aren't any other servers running.
[10:31] <variant> blind: you probably dont permit remote logins?
[10:31] <louiespeaks> I figure I am able to install unbuntu while talking to yall?
[10:31] <blind> yes i do..
[10:31] <swashbucklinstev> louiespeaks: depends on the laptop ofcourse, but with cedega you can even play games on your laptop too, "real" games
[10:31] <blind> i get a screen, variant. just not X.
[10:31] <blind> or rather, it's X, but I don't see what I have up.
[10:31] <louiespeaks> My laptop has like a geforce 4 mx440
[10:31] <noiesmo> swashbucklinstev, what not pretend games lol :)
[10:31] <variant> blind: on the vncserver click system > remote desktop
[10:32] <blind> like in the screenshot i linked...
[10:32] <variant> gtg, gf is here
[10:32] <louiespeaks> It's a piece, but it's a 2.4ghz p4 and 1 gig of ram.
[10:32] <blind> variant, that's all set up.
[10:32] <SeraVitae> okay, i just tried a new USB header on my motherboard, unused usb ports, mouse works fine, gamepad doesn't.
[10:32] <SeraVitae> same -110 error
[10:32] <louiespeaks> variant, remember.. fuck her gently.
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> noiesmo: I wish kjumpingcube was pretend, but it *really* steals my time
[10:32] <unix_> does anybody know how to set the cupsd password?
[10:32] <noiesmo> swashbucklinstev, haha :)
[10:32] <blind> louiespeaks: watch the language ;)
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> unix_: it's "swordfish"
[10:33] <louiespeaks> Wod.
[10:33] <louiespeaks> Word*
[10:33] <charlie5> a CHAP authorisation fail ... would that mean a bad username/password combo ?
[10:33] <mneptok> swashbucklinstev: please don't deliberately try to confuse people that need help
[10:33] <swashbucklinstev> :-(
[10:33] <swashbucklinstev> well, anyways, I'm audi...5000
[10:33] <louiespeaks> Who is proficient with manual paritioning?
[10:34] <unix_> I tried to set the password for the root user with lppasswd...but it wont work
[10:35] <louiespeaks> Anyone care to help a new Ubuntu user out?
[10:35] <Healot> !ask
[10:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:35] <mneptok> unix_: what cupsd password?
[10:35] <louiespeaks> Healot.
[10:36] <mneptok> unix_: the password for the cupsd user itself?
[10:36] <pluma> Augh. I can't find a subversion server in the repositories. only clients.
[10:36] <louiespeaks> Using !ask in my particular case is a wild goose chase.
[10:36] <unix_> mneptok, I'm trying to add a printer on the webinterface...and it's alway asking me for a user and a password
[10:36] <Overand> louiespeaks: plenty of people here are willing to help new ubuntu users out.
[10:36] <Overand> that's kind of the point
[10:36] <Overand> so... ASK!
[10:36] <unix_> ^^
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Dual booting.
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Windows Xp and Ubuntu
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Manually paritioning.
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Pointers?
[10:37] <Overand> install windows first
[10:37] <Overand> use windows partitioning system
[10:37] <Overand> leave space free
[10:37] <Overand> then install ubuntu
[10:37] <Overand> poof.
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Ugh
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Already installed XP awhile ago
[10:37] <louiespeaks> took full disk usage
[10:37] <louiespeaks> I gotta split the ntfs parition in half
[10:37] <Overand> there's no 'easy' solution to that
[10:37] <mneptok> pluma: sudo apt-get install subversion
[10:37] <mathrick> quick, what is the line I want to use with aptitude to upgrade dapper -> edgy? So that I can leave it to upgrade and go shave? :)
[10:37] <Overand> you can use gnuparted etc
[10:38] <Overand> to resize an ntfs partition
[10:38] <mneptok> unix_: use the GNOME add printer wizard thingy
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Hmmm.
[10:38] <mneptok> unix_: that will do everything CUPS needs
[10:38] <nekloksan> vagina
[10:38] <Overand> however- there is a good chance that you'll hose the entire partition
[10:38] <nekloksan> !!
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Hmm.
[10:38] <nekloksan> i love my vagina!!
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Scheisse.
[10:38] <Overand> louiespeaks: another option is to stuff another hard drive in the computer
[10:38] <Healot> !boot
[10:38] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Laptop bro.
[10:38] <pluma> Oh. Right. I guess that's what it means by "tools for making a svn repository and making it available"
[10:38] <louiespeaks> wbaout using the last option
[10:38] <mathrick> louiespeaks: 1) use one of the commercial resizers a'la Partition Magic
[10:38] <louiespeaks> and manually paritioning
[10:39] <louiespeaks> mathrick: Good ideer.
[10:39] <mathrick> louiespeaks: 2) try if parted supports NTFS (probably not)
[10:39] <Overand> mathrick: i think it does
[10:39] <pluma> Guess I was looking for the word "server" too hard =)
[10:39] <Overand> i just don't trust it
[10:39] <mneptok> mathrick: your nick looks familiar ...
[10:39] <louiespeaks> I figured ubuntu was able to do it during install
[10:39] <Overand> even 'partition magic' is tricky
[10:39] <mathrick> mneptok: yeah, as does yours
[10:39] <Arcad3> is there a software with i can montor a user connected with ssh
[10:39] <Overand> louiespeaks: it may, actually
[10:39] <mathrick> mneptok: #gnome-hackers ?
[10:39] <louiespeaks> It does... I am just unsure how to use it.
[10:39] <Arcad3> "to keep an eye on him"?
[10:39] <mneptok> mathrick: ah yes. i'm one of the GNOME sysamdins. :)
[10:40] <mneptok> *admins, even
[10:40] <mathrick> mneptok: cheers :)
[10:40] <louiespeaks> eer /dev/hda1
[10:40] <louiespeaks> I am to resize it
[10:40] <Overand> gnuparted *can* do it i THINK- but i don't know if the version on the ubuntu CD supports ntfsresize
[10:40] <Overand> and my warning is key.
[10:40] <mathrick> Overand: you don't need ubuntu cd for that, really
[10:40] <mneptok> mathrick: when you're done with that short term memory part of your brain, could i lease it or something. ;)
[10:40] <Overand> Toying with an existing partion is a great way to destroy all the data on it.
[10:40] <Arcad3> tell me the name Louie
[10:40] <mathrick> mneptok: I doubt it'll be useful, leaky as shit ;)
[10:41] <louiespeaks> Word.
[10:41] <Overand> just plug the holes with THC!
[10:41] <louiespeaks> Arcade3 of?
[10:41] <mathrick> there are ready CD images for parted
[10:41] <Arcad3> the software
[10:41] <mneptok> mathrick: mine not only leaks, but is FIFO and cooperatively multitasks. :/
[10:41] <mathrick> louiespeaks: do you have anything important on that partition?
[10:41] <louiespeaks> Music.
[10:41] <Overand> mneptok: eww... cooperative multitasking.
[10:41] <louiespeaks> But that's on my other computer as well.
[10:41] <larsemil> since distupgrading to dapper i lost my swedish keyboardsettings. i have no idea where to look as gnome keyboardsettings works fine.
[10:41] <mathrick> louiespeaks: grab DVD+RW, burn if you care, try parted
[10:41] <mathrick> if it comes to the worst, reinstall XP
[10:41] <Spy4> hi all
[10:41] <larsemil> ah. gnomekeys are correct but not working i mean
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Word.
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Ok.