[02:27] <ryanpcmcquen> How do you change the keyboard layout on Budgie?
[02:31] <ryanpcmcquen> I know I can edit the `XKBMODEL` in `/etc/default/keyboard`, but is there a GUI way?
[07:48] <fossfreedom_> ryanpcmcquen, Settings - Region & Language - Input Sources
[16:28] <ryanpcmcquen> fossfreedom_, thank you.
[17:44] <Spinnekop> have installed expose applet but doesn't work. any clues?
[18:10] <Spinnekop> quiet around here...
[23:09] <Linger> Hey, having some troubles configuring keyboard shortcuts for tiling with mutter. Any tips?


[12:14] <AskUbuntu> MaaS - Fatal Error inserting ipmi_si | http://askubuntu.com/q/298167
[14:26] <AskUbuntu> Problem with node being "commissioning" and doesn't change to "ready" | http://askubuntu.com/q/298213
[16:14] <roaksoax> rvba: howdy! was there something you needed me to take care of?
[16:15] <rvba> roaksoax: hi;  yes, there is this problem with the saucy package, the maas services are not started by default for some reason.  Looks like something changed in upstart or something.
[16:15] <roaksoax> rvba: ok, I'll investigate
[16:15] <rvba> ta
[16:43] <roaksoax> rvba: are *all* the services not being started?
[20:54] <AskUbuntu> MAAS Node : Automatic Discovery - get [] list? | http://askubuntu.com/q/298367
[21:21] <roaksoax> /win/win 15
[23:01] <mwhudson> urgh
[23:01] <mwhudson> why might pserv only be binding to localhost:tftp?
[23:01] <mwhudson> that doesn't seem likely to be right
[23:01] <mwhudson> brb
[23:58] <mwhudson> what the heck


[08:09] <sakrecoer> Congrats on the release everyone!!! <3
[08:15] <sakrecoer> anybod here whos into matrix/riot ? it's a foss chat thingy... secure and apretty cool. https://about.riot.im/ i'm asking because i just found out it has a very cool IRC integration. actually it seems freenode is running a matrix server...
[08:16] <sakrecoer> i figured, since it seems some users are getting confused by IRC, maybe a bridge between a matrix channel and #ubuntustudio-users could be a thing...
[08:17] <sakrecoer> just putting it here on the table....
[14:46] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: just remember that this channel _is_ logged
[14:47] <OvenWerks> I am not sure that fits with matrix ideas or if we want to log what may be happening in matrix.
[20:22] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: well... matrix has got a lot of public chanels...
[20:23] <sakrecoer> it gives you the possiblity to communicate securly, but it is not exclusively for secret conversations. anyways... it's just a suggestion.
[20:28] <sakrecoer> if we bridge the matrix channel with the -user channel, we wouldn't need to log the matrix cahnneÃ¶, because they mirror eachother exactly: everything written in matri appears in the IRC chan and vice versa
[22:00] <classywhetten> Hey guys, is there a specific PPA this flavor uses for blender3D?
[23:30] <ErichEickmeyer> sakrecoer: A lot of the other flavors are using a Telegram bridge these days. I was contemplating making an UbuStu Telegram group.
[23:33] <krytarik> Yes, it only sucks on the IRC side..


[01:36] <cyberanger> how's everything going?
[01:36] <cyberanger> oh how this channel gets quiet, I swear you could hear a ping drop
[01:42] <vychune> hey guys
[01:43] <vychune> meta-1
[01:43] <vychune> oops
[01:44] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[01:44] <vychune> how you doing?
[01:44] <cyberanger> it was getting so quiet in here, I could hear a ping drop
[01:45] <vychune> LOL!
[01:45] <cyberanger> working on work, dns nameserver config
[01:45] <vychune> i went to Midsouth Makers
[01:45] <cyberanger> sweet
[01:45] <vychune> it was great
[01:46] <cyberanger> hopefully I can get there at some point, gotta cross a long state for it
[01:46] <cyberanger> present something
[01:46] <vychune> i ate and named the spark dog machine lol
[01:46] <cyberanger> probally a router mod
[01:46] <vychune> cool
[01:46] <vychune> all i got is an un finished website
[01:47] <cyberanger> I'm about as far east as I can get without calling it north carolina
[01:47] <vychune> damn
[01:47] <cyberanger> so it'll be a little while
[01:47] <vychune> wow
[01:47] <vychune> hold on
[01:48] <cyberanger> yeah, but considering how much I gotta blog, on prior projects, might as well keep the router on ice
[01:48] <cyberanger> holding on
[01:48] <vychune> im using irssi now
[01:49]  * cyberanger wonders why the railing I'm holding onto is so sticky
[01:49] <cyberanger> cool
[01:50] <vychune> i learn how to screen to
[01:50] <vychune> learned
[01:50]  * cyberanger <3's irssi
[01:50] <vychune> vychune not so much lol
[01:51] <vychune> chris how you doing
[01:53] <chris4585> vychune, I'm tired, I volunteered today, you?
[01:53] <vychune> wanted to go to a meeting oh Midsouth Makers today
[01:53] <vychune> my mom went to the Grizzles game
[01:54] <chris4585> midsouth makers?
[01:54] <cyberanger> memphis hackerspace
[01:54] <chris4585> ah
[01:54] <vychune> volunteered doing what?
[01:54] <cyberanger> man, you've been "out of state" too long now chris4585 ;-)
[01:54] <vychune> thanks cyber
[01:55] <chris4585> vychune, at my mom's work (thrift store)
[01:55] <vychune> oh cool
[01:55] <chris4585> cyberanger, I wouldn't have known that even if I was still in TN lol
[01:58] <cyberanger> really, 1 7|-|0ug|-|7 0f y0u 45 m0r3 0f 4 h4x0r chris4585 :P
[01:59] <vychune> chi whats up
[01:59] <chris4585> cyberanger, nope
[01:59] <vychune> cyber ?
[01:59] <cyberanger> hey chibihogoshino
[01:59] <chibihogoshino> yo cyberanger
[01:59] <chibihogoshino> wuz up
[01:59] <cyberanger> vychune: annoying leetspeek, little bit of a joke
[02:00] <vychune> lol
[02:00] <cyberanger> chris4585: well, your enough of one to read it ;-)
[02:00] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: not too much, working on work
[02:00] <cyberanger> and chatting
[02:00] <chris4585> yeah I was about to say how sad it is I can actually read that
[02:00] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> gotta go tho.. im at a coffee shop and its time to leave i guess.. lol
[02:01] <vychune> ok
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> peace out yall
[02:01] <cyberanger> enough time to say hello
[02:01] <vychune> lata
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> yeppers
[02:01] <cyberanger> and I gotta run, heh
[02:01] <cyberanger> see ya chibihogoshino
[02:01] <vychune> see ya guys
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> ill be back on l8tr
[02:01] <cyberanger> lol
[02:42] <wrst> helloeveryone
[02:43] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[02:43] <wrst> cyberanger:  i find myself fixing another winders install
[02:43] <cyberanger> it had been quiet all afternoon, I swear I could hear a ping drop
[02:44] <cyberanger> wrst: rm -Rf /windows/
[02:44] <cyberanger> fixed
[02:44] <wrst> quickbooks is a necessary evil here
[02:44] <wrst> but i do agree with you
[02:45] <cyberanger> well, if your that stuck, might I suggest some wine ;-)
[02:45] <cyberanger> I know I'm a vodka person myself, but that wine might help you
[02:46] <wrst> i really wouldn't want to attempt it and I don't think quickbooks works very well with it
[02:46] <cyberanger> well, with that attitude I know you haven't tried, you sound too sober still
[02:46]  * cyberanger has killed the joke
[02:47] <wrst> well if it werefor my use i would try it maybe but i don't think i would trust wine with mission critical
[02:47] <cyberanger> true
[02:48] <wrst> but wow taking 10 minutes to get into quickbooks and of course they have lost the cd
[02:48] <wrst> it really needs a wipe clean and restart
[03:03] <chibihogoshino> yay..
[03:04] <cyberanger> woot
[03:05] <chibihogoshino> can i hold a program from starting right away in xsession  ?
[03:14] <cyberanger> delay it's start?
[03:14] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, use sleep
[03:14] <chris4585> sleep 10s; program-executable
[03:14] <cyberanger> sleep 10; kill chris4585
[03:15] <cyberanger> seems to work fine ;-)
[03:15] <chris4585> well that may work in xsession, if not just try creating a script with the contents of sleep
[03:15] <chris4585> cyberanger, :P
[03:15] <cyberanger> opps, got one zombie process
[03:15] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, I used sleep a lot to delay processes while using openbox
[03:15] <chibihogoshino> hmm..
[03:15] <chibihogoshino> right in the xsession file or in a bash script ?
[03:15] <chris4585> either or?
[03:16] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, what do you want to delay?
[03:16] <cyberanger> openbox really is simple, but for gnome I'd make a bash script, delay and excute
[03:16] <chibihogoshino> conky from starting right away
[03:16] <chris4585> cyberanger, yeah
[03:16] <cyberanger> then have xsession invoke that
[03:16] <chris4585> yes what cyberanger said
[03:16] <chibihogoshino> brb
[03:16] <chris4585> and pretty much what I said earlier
[03:16] <chris4585> lol
[03:16] <cyberanger> it was, I was just endorsing it
[03:17] <chris4585> darn, I'm cleaning my room and I've almost found a home for everything except my baseball bat
[03:17] <cyberanger> as the better method
[03:17] <cyberanger> next to your baseball?
[03:17] <chris4585> don't own a baseball lol
[03:17] <chris4585> I have it purely for enjoyment of knowing I have it, and one day I will beat the living poo out of 'something' :-)
[03:18] <cyberanger> hehe
[03:18]  * chris4585 plots against watermelons
[03:19]  * cyberanger plots against chris4585
[03:19] <chris4585> :O
[03:19] <cyberanger> if it's a contest of evil, I win
[03:20] <chris4585> well I do have some anger issues I need to sort out, not because of any one thing, but for a good while I've just wanted to go all out on a watermelon :D
[03:36]  * cyberanger hands chris4585 the worlds biggest sledgehammer and smallest watermelon
[03:36] <cyberanger> oh, and a camera
[03:37] <chris4585> lol
[03:37]  * chris4585 goes bonkers
[03:39]  * cyberanger expected a little more comical results
[03:39] <cyberanger> oh I forgot the tape
[03:39] <cyberanger> :/
[03:41] <chris4585> haha sorry :p
[03:46] <cyberanger> that's a shame, now we're out of the worlds smallees watermelon
[03:47] <cyberanger> hey orangeninja
[03:48] <orangeninja> hey cyberanger
[03:50] <orangeninja> nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>-199
[03:50] <orangeninja> ha wrong box
[03:52] <cyberanger> die hacker scum
[03:52] <cyberanger> ;-)
[03:52] <orangeninja> ha, it's my network no hacker here anyway..
[03:52] <cyberanger> says the hacker
[03:52] <cyberanger> :P
[03:53] <cyberanger> naw, I don't care
[03:53] <orangeninja> that's why I want to learn lnux so I can be 133t
[03:54] <orangeninja> sup chibihogoshino
[03:54] <chris4585> wb chibihogoshino, how did that thing go?
[03:54] <chibihogoshino> trying to get compiz xfce4 and tilda to play nice
[03:55] <chibihogoshino> thanks chris4585
[03:55] <chibihogoshino> didnt work
[03:55] <chibihogoshino> if i start conky after everything loads its ok but if i use a auto launch it covers tilda
[03:56] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, did you try making the geometry of tilda not cover conky or is that a possibility?
[03:56] <chibihogoshino> i wish xfce4-session had a no window manager option
[03:56] <chibihogoshino> i want tilda to cover it ..
[03:57] <chris4585> ah
[03:57] <chibihogoshino> its just a blank part of conky .. i have everything on one line but it still has like 3 lines down that are blank
[03:57] <chris4585> then in that case, sounds really tricky
[03:57] <chibihogoshino> if i could get it all to fit on one line it would be ok
[03:58] <chibihogoshino> but conky isnt that great at making things work on one line without all the text moving all around
[03:59] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, are you using xfce panel on the bottom or something?
[03:59] <chibihogoshino> no
[03:59] <chibihogoshino> i use awn
[04:00] <chris4585> ah, I'm not sure then, I myself don't really have enough conky-fu to know a fix...
[04:00] <chibihogoshino> i load xfce4-session to load all the key bindings and gnome theme stuff
[04:01] <chibihogoshino> guess i could try to load gnome-session instead
[04:01] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, you just gave me a great idea friend, although it wont help you lol..
[04:01] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[04:02] <chris4585> I have a empty space on my screep all the time I can utilize conky for :D
[04:02] <chibihogoshino> all the time  ?
[04:02]  * chris4585 goes online to steal a decent conky config to mod the crap out of
[04:02] <chris4585> yeah
[04:02] <chibihogoshino> how big is it
[04:03] <chibihogoshino> how is it all the time
[04:04] <chibihogoshino> brb
[04:05] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[04:06] <orangeninja> yall got a scrip to start conky at start up or just starting it in console each time?
[04:09] <chris4585> orangeninja, at startup
[04:11] <chibihogoshino> cant do it..
[04:11] <chibihogoshino> i cant run gnome
[04:12] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, I couldn't find my best recent screenshot
[04:12] <chris4585> but http://i.imgur.com/tjFU1.jpg
[04:12] <chris4585> to the right of the ubuntu icon (bottom left) that space is shown always
[04:15] <chibihogoshino> cool
[04:15] <chibihogoshino> wont the bar expand if more programs are open ?
[04:16] <orangeninja> brb
[04:16] <chris4585> yeah but I'll see what will happen..
[04:16] <chibihogoshino> i kinda have the same thing going on.. but at the top is the conky bar
[04:20] <chibihogoshino> http://i.imgur.com/p56dc.png this right now is how it looks..
[04:24] <chris4585> ah thats cool
[04:24] <chris4585> the only thing that would bug me is the icons
[04:25] <chibihogoshino> huh
[04:25] <chibihogoshino> why the icons ?
[04:26] <chris4585> don't seem to match the overall theme
[04:26] <chibihogoshino> yeah.. im trying to work on that
[04:27] <chibihogoshino> gnome is just so messed up on the icon part its crazy
[04:28] <chibihogoshino> i made a few but its really annoying cuz im not that great at making icons
[04:29] <chris4585> I don't think I could...
[04:29] <chris4585> I got my desired effect :D
[04:29] <chibihogoshino> i would be fine if i could just change the color to match the theme and keep all the icons the same
[04:30] <chris4585> I think I'll increase my font a tiny bit..
[04:31] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, http://i.imgur.com/WV3JA.jpg
[04:31] <chibihogoshino> ooo thats nice
[04:32] <chris4585> why thank you :)
[04:32] <chris4585> I have a separate awn instance running very bottom left that intelhides and only has the ubuntu menu
[04:33] <chibihogoshino> i thought about doing that but i have the bar loaded at the bottom anyway so i just stuck it all on one
[04:34] <chris4585> ah
[04:34] <chibihogoshino> i wish i could take the top part of the windows off
[04:35] <chris4585> I have key points.. I have muscle memory built now, mouse moves that is, top left = close; top right = session stuff; bottom left = menu; and *usually* bottom left = volume
[04:35] <chris4585> last one should be bottom right*
[04:36] <chris4585> I have floating gnome-panel with global menu, windows actions and windows title
[04:36] <chibihogoshino> thats allot of mouse movement
[04:37] <chibihogoshino> why not hot keys ?
[04:37] <chibihogoshino> alt f4 to close
[04:37] <chris4585> I'm too much of a mouse addict lol
[04:37] <chibihogoshino> heh
[04:38] <chris4585> while watching / listening to stuff I like to know where the volume icon is exactly without looking and same for closing windows
[04:38] <chris4585> the ubuntu menu is a fluke and ended up where it is lol, I rarely use it
[04:38] <chris4585> thus why I hide it
[04:39] <chibihogoshino> ah
[04:39] <chris4585> only reason I don't have awn fully expanded is because the space where conky shows info I need my mouse to be able to scroll to a new desktop
[04:39] <chris4585> I'm pretty specific with my desktop.. I get cranky when I don't have it my way lol
[04:39] <chibihogoshino> yeah im the same way ..
[04:40] <chibihogoshino> it has to do what you want or its not right
[04:40] <orangeninja> b
[04:40] <chris4585> exactly, it feels so limiting
[04:40] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[04:40] <chris4585> only thing gnome-panel even has to offer me is force quit lol
[04:41] <chibihogoshino> didnt know it had that
[04:41] <chibihogoshino> i just double click the close icon and a window pops up with a kill option
[04:41] <chris4585> ah
[04:42] <chibihogoshino> it would be cool to have a database of different desktop configurations and how they got it that way
[04:43] <chris4585> would be neat
[04:44] <chibihogoshino> i have thought about hiding the bar at the bottom but the icons are notifications too.. so i wouldnt know if something was going on or not
[04:47] <chris4585> ah true
[04:47] <chris4585> only if there was a do-it-all space saving option
[04:48] <orangeninja> did yall get your conkies figured out?
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> yeah that would be nice
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> no
[04:48] <chris4585> my notifications if I wanted could be placed in my top gnome-panel but you see my screen is rather large.. and I don't like looking up there lol
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> its still messed up
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> lol
[04:49] <chibihogoshino> something is up with the conky config
[04:49] <chibihogoshino> it dosnt transparent the background right
[04:49] <orangeninja> how big is your monitor chris? I like your setup nice and clean.
[04:50] <chris4585> orangeninja, thanks, its a lot of aesthetics, and its 28"
[04:51] <orangeninja> nice
[04:51] <chibihogoshino> thats nice.. i miss my 21"
[04:52] <chibihogoshino> i thought i would never get used to a 14" screen
[04:52] <orangeninja> I have a 21" vizio lcd Im using on desktop
[04:53] <chibihogoshino> sweet orangeninja
[04:56] <orangeninja> I'd like to get a duel setup sometime.... key word sometime
[04:57] <chibihogoshino> that would be cool.. or a triple screen
[04:57] <orangeninja> be nice to have several things up at once......ha ha
[04:58] <chibihogoshino> browse the web have irc and play tux racer at the same time
[04:58] <orangeninja> all about time managment right?
[04:59] <chibihogoshino> yepperes
[05:00] <chris4585> I learned that unless you have similar monitors it doesn't work well..
[05:01] <chibihogoshino> why ?
[05:01] <chris4585> just seems weird
[05:01] <chibihogoshino> i had my 21 and a 15
[05:01] <chibihogoshino> used the 15 to watch tv
[05:01] <chris4585> just didn't work for me
[05:01] <orangeninja> yeah I figured if I ever got to do it I would need to buy two exact same monitors
[05:02] <orangeninja> yeah I messed with it with different monitors and not great. different size and resolutions
[05:03] <orangeninja> but if you set it up for two different desktops i guess it might work better.
[05:03] <orangeninja> on same computer of course
[05:03] <chibihogoshino> thats what i did
[05:04] <chibihogoshino> i love curry
[05:06] <orangeninja> the food?
[05:06] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[05:08] <orangeninja> eating some now or just thinking about curry? ha
[05:08] <chibihogoshino> i made some curry rice
[05:08] <orangeninja> nice, that is one type of food I have not had yet. I need to try some out
[05:09] <chibihogoshino> you never had rice ?
[05:11] <orangeninja> curry
[05:11] <orangeninja> nevery had any indian food
[05:11] <chibihogoshino> oh
[05:11] <chibihogoshino> its amazing
[05:16] <orangeninja> are you starting conky with terminal or scriping it to start on boot?
[05:17] <chibihogoshino> on boot ?
[05:17] <chibihogoshino> that would be before x starts
[05:18] <chibihogoshino> im starting it with super key c
[05:18] <chibihogoshino> till i figure out why its messed up
[05:18] <orangeninja> I thought conky was all texted based anyway?
[05:19] <orangeninja> I dont really know anything about other than I have seen some cools tuff with it.
[05:19] <chris4585> oh speaking of conky..
[05:19]  * chris4585 finds link
[05:20] <orangeninja> can you lock it down to be kind of like it is part of the desktop walpaper?
[05:20] <chris4585> the first one mentioned is seriously badass http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/five-seriously-cool-conky-set-ups-for-linux-desktop/
[05:20] <chris4585> orangeninja, it just sits on the desktop, and has a billion options
[05:21] <chris4585> I didn't even know the text in conky could be tilted.. unless thats a trick..
[05:21] <chibihogoshino> orangeninja: yeah it kinda becomes part of the desktop
[05:22] <orangeninja> looks awesome.
[05:22] <chibihogoshino> i think the tilted text is with lua
[05:23] <orangeninja> the first time I messed with it I just rand conky in term and started it, then I was like how do I get this crap off here.....lol But then I started eeing stuff like this and it makes me want to try somethings again.
[05:23] <orangeninja> sorry for the flood
[05:23] <chris4585> its all about the configuration
[05:24] <chibihogoshino> thats the fun part
[05:24] <orangeninja> lol, yeah back then i didnt know how to kill jobs....lol
[05:24] <chibihogoshino> back in the day
[05:24] <chris4585> wow, conky's man page is 2790 lines long
[05:25] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[05:25] <orangeninja> yeah back about two or three months ago....I didnt realize that closing term did not stop the job...lol
[05:26] <chibihogoshino> you just started using linux a few months ago ?
[05:28] <orangeninja> really trying to learn with it, yes. I have dabbled here and then for a couple of years. you know, live cd or two. I actually complied gentoo on and old machine a few years back but I did the step by step from the online documantaion
[05:28] <orangeninja> crashed the x server and stopped messing with it
[05:29] <chris4585> you're far braver than I am, I don't think I could do gentoo lol
[05:29] <chris4585> arch is my one true love.. I feel like I'm cheating on arch by using ubuntu :/
[05:30] <orangeninja> well, I still don't know enough about any distro. But I only got so far with gentoo because I fllowed the setup step by step. I still probably could not get it working if I tried now.
[05:31] <chris4585> its alright, even attempting gentoo requires guts I think :<
[05:31] <orangeninja> what was it.... make install ......
[05:33] <orangeninja> I don't understand why gentoo wont make the install a little easier. probably have a lot more try it out.
[05:35] <orangeninja> where did yall go?
[05:35] <chibihogoshino> i kinda mis fighting with slackware
[05:35] <chris4585> well there are distros out there based on gentoo but make things easier (saybaion linux)
[05:35] <chris4585> I think thats how its spelled..
[05:35] <orangeninja> ah
[05:35] <chibihogoshino> thats a bit bloated tho
[05:36] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, I miss arch's aur so much, but ppa's work for now
[05:36] <chris4585> a tiny bit
[05:36] <chibihogoshino> i never used arch
[05:37] <chibihogoshino> i went from slack then redhat, mandrake, mandriva and ubuntu
[05:38] <chibihogoshino> i need to finish clannad
[05:38] <orangeninja> what is that?
[05:38] <chibihogoshino> its a anime
[05:39] <orangeninja> does steam and games run well in wine?
[05:39] <chris4585> steam runs.. but at a snail's pace
[05:39] <orangeninja> I don't do much gaming but I do some
[05:39] <chibihogoshino> i ran half life 2 fine
[05:40] <chris4585> I was surprised civilizations 5 even ran..
[05:40] <chris4585> but its pretty clunky
[05:40] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[05:40] <orangeninja> that is about the only thing holding me back from making my main machine run linux.
[05:40] <chibihogoshino> the start menu was messed up with hl2
[05:43] <chris4585> orangeninja, I dual boot and even then rarely boot into windows to play games... but if I had a totally kickbutt system I'd take windows gaming more seriously
[05:44] <orangeninja> yeah, I have thought about the dual boot but I'll need to redo some partitions on the maind disk.
[05:45] <orangeninja> I built a pretty nice set up about a year ago
[05:45] <chris4585> ah
[05:46] <chris4585> this was a hp media center.. but I upgraded the ram, video card, and power supply, and its served me pretty good
[05:46] <chris4585> I'd just like to get a nice mobo / cpu setup..
[05:47] <orangeninja> 920 i7 2.6ghz, 6 gb ram, evge geforce gtx 260 core 216 x2 sli, bluray, 1 650gb drive, 1 tb drive
[05:48] <chris4585> yeah you beat mine lol
[05:48] <chris4585> os[Linux 2.6.35-25-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 3.2GB, 50.1% free] disk[Total: 1.5TB, 57.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia2: USB-Audio - USB Camera-B<IP_ADDRESS>]
[05:49] <chris4585> simplified.. 2.4ghz dual core, 4gbs ram.. etc..
[05:49] <orangeninja> still pretty nice
[05:50] <chibihogoshino> did anyone see the specs for the ngp ?
[05:50] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, that thing is crazy
[05:50] <chris4585> they have everything but the kitchen sink!
[05:50] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[05:50] <chris4585> if it was decently priced... I might.. just might get one
[05:50] <orangeninja> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30911192@N06/3757347348/
[05:50] <chibihogoshino> they said it wasnt going to be a arm and a leg
[05:51] <chris4585> orangeninja, that looks nice
[05:51] <chris4585> I wish mine was as pretty as that
[05:51] <orangeninja> got a bunch of dust in there now
[05:52] <chibihogoshino> clean setup
[05:52] <chris4585> does anyone know if vlc can broadcast from audio-in to a local network the same time as some video in a single stream?..
[05:52] <chibihogoshino> i have no idea
[05:53] <chris4585> I think its too complicated to work..
[05:53] <chris4585> my tvtuner that does work with linux has a separate audio jack.. and it works, but I'm not sure how because I haven't been able to find the device name for it..
[05:53] <orangeninja> got this off ebay last summer http://www.flickr.com/photos/30911192@N06/3872313116/
[05:54] <chibihogoshino> sweet orangeninja
[05:54] <chris4585> orangeninja, I saw a commodore a few months ago at my local thrift store, I have no idea if it worked though
[05:54] <chibihogoshino> gonna play some platoon ?
[05:54] <orangeninja> maybe gunship......mmmmm
[05:55] <orangeninja> ok i guess i built that computer in 09 lol
[05:56] <chris4585> I think I've had this machine since late 06, and its served me really well
[05:58] <orangeninja> getting something to drink brb
[05:59] <chris4585> lol I just texted my friend "can I call right meow?"
[06:02] <orangeninja> cat calling your friend?
[06:03] <chris4585> have you seen super troopers?
[06:03] <chris4585> it wont be funny unless you've seen it
[06:03] <orangeninja> yep seen it
[06:03] <orangeninja> meow
[06:04] <chris4585> lol ah
[06:04] <orangeninja> where are yall at? Im in Nashville
[06:05] <chris4585> orangeninja, I used to live in Morristown, then Kingston, but moved to florida near tampa
[06:05] <orangeninja> ahhhh fla spy huh
[06:06] <chris4585> oh noes you discovered my top secret plan
[15:01] <mhall119> florida spies are everywhere
[15:44] <cyberanger> some are just slower than others
[15:44] <cyberanger> oh well, that's "intelligence"
[15:45] <cyberanger> ;-)
[15:45] <cyberanger> how's your day mhall119
[16:02] <mhall119> blah
[16:03] <mhall119> clogged kitchen sink
[16:03] <mhall119> no coffee
[16:40] <cyberanger> eek
[16:40]  * cyberanger hands mhall119 some bawls
[16:48] <mhall119> bawls?
[17:30] <exodus_ms> hows everyone today?
[17:31] <exodus_ms> the weather as been awesome
[17:31] <cyberanger> mhall119: energy drink
[17:32] <cyberanger> exodus_ms: not too bad
[17:32] <exodus_ms> cool
[17:32] <cyberanger> just pondering ditching charter and going all celluar again
[17:32] <cyberanger> I love the idea, and hate it too
[17:32] <exodus_ms> whys that?
[17:32] <cyberanger> but the wallet might force my hand
[17:33] <exodus_ms> ah
[17:33] <cyberanger> well, the cost, charter makes it irratiting to be internet only customer, and will charge me more for it too
[17:34]  * cyberanger ponders starting a little pricewar to kickstart things
[17:34] <cyberanger> virgin mobile or t-mobile, 40 bucks and done
[17:35] <cyberanger> unlimited, virgin mobile will throttle after 5GB, T-Mobile after 10GB
[17:35] <exodus_ms> when i ditched charter they told me I could keep Internet only, it would cost only $30 a month and I would have to lock into a 2yr contract
[17:35] <cyberanger> but it would be a mess
[17:35] <cyberanger> they're selling it to me for 40, two year contract (and I own my bloddy modem)
[17:36] <cyberanger> and when I go internet only, I'll be charged another 15 for not being bundled
[17:36] <cyberanger> and they'll try and charge me 20 bucks to disconnect
[17:38] <exodus_ms> I have my own modem as well, from what i was told, $30 a month with a 2yr contract no other fees
[17:38] <exodus_ms> if I choose to disconnect before the 2yr contract is up I would be charged a fee
[17:39] <exodus_ms> but ive disconnected from charter twice since Ive moved into my apartment, both times I was never charged for disconnected the service. I had both cable and Internet
[17:40] <cyberanger> one thing I like about this idea, stick the card in a backpack, I've moved my service
[17:41] <cyberanger> don't buy another top up card (in virgin mobiles case) I've quit my service
[17:41] <cyberanger> buy another card, I've reconnected
[17:41] <exodus_ms> yeah, thats convenient
[17:41] <cyberanger> all without having to go through sales
[17:42] <cyberanger> which seems to assume I've got money to spare
[17:42] <exodus_ms> btw cyberanger do you know how i can stream pandora without using a web browser?
[17:43] <cyberanger> (I'm not saying I'm broke, but things are tight, and they make me fear for that day)
[17:43] <cyberanger> uh, I'll answer that when you get back...


[00:06] <arcolife> why does muon software centre crash every time? submitted the bug already
[00:07] <arcolife> anybody facing the same bug?
[01:23] <kromagnon> hola
[02:52] <phunyguy> Hello, I am getting an error when trying to install any packages with apt-get.  Here is a pastebin of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/941950/ - any ideas?
[02:52] <phunyguy> i tried with -f and it failed also.
[02:52] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:53] <phunyguy> here is a pastebin of the -f failure. http://paste.ubuntu.com/941951/
[02:54] <phunyguy> ahh sorry probably need to post in the upgrade channel.  I am 12.04 - sorry.
[02:55] <Unit193> When was the last time you "reloaded cache" or sudo apt-get update? Ah, may want to try there as I don't know that.
[02:55] <phunyguy> Unit193: Just now.
[02:55] <phunyguy> if it matters, I was running ubuntu, then installed kubunt-desktop package.
[02:56] <phunyguy> prolly just need to blow this thing away again! ><
[03:06] <datruth> is kopete a good im program or should I go with pidgin?
[03:20] <phunyguy> datruth, you should go with what you like.  It all depends on what you are looking for.
[03:20] <phunyguy> kopete is nice if you like KDE integration
[03:21] <phunyguy> pidgin is also very nice, has IRC support, etc.
[03:25] <datruth> phunyguy: i see I mainly trying to avoid installing parts of the gnome/ubuntu desktop
[03:26] <datruth> phunyguy: what program can I use to activate my webcam?
[04:27] <Daskreech> datruth: Both have strengths but I suppose if you want to just IM I'd go with Kopete just for the ctrl+Shift+I shortcut
[05:43] <kamilnadeem> Hi Everyone.
[06:09] <vpnRoey> hi
[06:09] <vpnRoey> I have a remote direcotry mounted with SSHFS.  Now, when I try to browse to it with Firefox, I do not see it listed.  At all.  What's going on here?
[06:10] <vpnRoey> j/ #netfilter
[06:10] <vpnRoey> er
[08:03] <Daskreec1> vpnRoey: Is it a fuse sshfs ?
[08:03] <vpnRoey> nah I figured it out.
[08:03] <Daskreec1> vpnRoey: ah what was it?
[08:03] <vpnRoey> I had had the remote location mounted over the same mount point five times
[08:03] <Daskreec1> Ah
[08:04] <vpnRoey> I couldn't even access it with root user
[08:04] <Daskreec1> how did that come about?
[08:04] <Daskreec1>  bad fstab file?
[08:04] <vpnRoey> meh, dunno.
[08:04] <vpnRoey> I htink I may have umonted a different mount point than
[08:04] <vpnRoey> ooh well I have no idea.
[08:04] <Daskreec1> ah ok
[08:04] <vpnRoey> what WOULD be great though is KDE file open/save as dialogs for Firefox
[08:05] <vpnRoey> anyway.. it's kinda late here at 04:05 i nthe morning
[08:05] <vpnRoey> gotta get to bed
[08:05] <vpnRoey> skrrechy! gnight.
[09:47] <jonay> who  knows  some  websites/blogs with  guidlines and  other stuff for  kubuntu like  webupt8 and ubuntu  omg ?
[09:48] <ikonia> guidelines ?
[09:49] <jonay> yes  ... sorry  ! :D
[09:49] <jonay> what  to  do  best  after default installation of  kubuntu ...
[09:49] <ikonia> what do you mean by guidelines ?
[09:49] <ikonia> jonay: you do what YOU want to dol
[09:49] <ikonia> do
[09:50] <ikonia> it's YOUR operating system, so the decisions are based on what you want and how comfortable you are with the outcome of those decisions
[09:53] <jonay> ok,  but with  ubuntu  was  it easy  ... I read some guidelines on blogs or websites  and  tried  on my OS. but for kubuntu  (KDE) is  not  so  easy to find it.
[09:54] <jonay> but ok,  I will  search  further  ...  thanks any way.
[11:53] <uicd> hi ..
[11:53] <uicd> :D
[11:53] <uicd> hat wer zeit
[11:53] <uicd> :)
[11:53] <FloodBotK1> uicd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:43] <TrivialUser> I can't switch audio channels and subtitles in Dragon Player. What should I do?
[14:07] <Jacky> 1
[14:09] <mydogsnameisrudy> 2
[14:20]  * BluesKaj wonders why so many ppl join , but don't ask , don't comment ..just don't do anything except lurk , where's the fun in that?
[14:21]  * Shaan7 kicks BluesKaj
[14:21] <Shaan7> ^ that :P
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Shaan7, yeah , so why are you here ? :)
[14:22] <mydogsnameisrudy> to busy scp'ing all my files to new 12.04 desktop ;)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> brb ,,,
[14:53] <sharp15> is it common for kde to stop allowing users to logout?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> sharp15, of course not
[14:56] <sharp15> BluesKaj: i mean is it a currently known problem?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> sharp15, I've heard of a few instances , but usually an update/upgrade finishes the held package that;s holding up the logout sequence
[14:58] <sharp15> BluesKaj: no upgrades in progress here.  ('muon software center' won't even start.)
[14:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> sharp15:  is this a fresh install ?
[14:59] <sharp15> i guess i should say this is an ubuntu-11.10 system with kubuntu-desktop installed.
[15:00] <sharp15> mydogsnameisrudy: yes.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> sharp15, open a terminal , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , forget muon , try apper or synaptic ...muon is buggy
[15:00] <sharp15> BluesKaj: good to know.
[15:02] <sharp15> BluesKaj: nothing to install/upgrade/remove according to apt-get or aptitude.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> I know I'll be chastised for tellingppl to forget about a particular app, but I'm not going recommend ppl use abuggy app that doesn't seems to be getting attention by the devs
[15:03] <BluesKaj> aptitude isn't working well dependencies lately , I'd be careful with it
[15:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> muon is working fine for me ... but i do termianl updates
[15:03] <sharp15> not a problem from me.  i prefer the shell anyway.  this system belongs to someone else.
[15:03] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  You could always use dselect.  <running away screaming!>
[15:03] <sharp15> i'll probably be doing the maintenance though.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, I'm not using muon ..and it's not me who has a problem
[15:05] <sharp15> login/logout worked once.  then i started tweaking the kde settings to turn off things (Nepomuk/Akonadi) but i don't think i turned off anything that should affect this.  i did look at the login manager section in systemsettings (don't remember clicking on anything after realizing it wasn't going to work with lightdm).
[15:07] <BluesKaj> why lightdm ..that doesn't make the login easier or more stable ...I don't get it ...eyecandy ?
[15:08] <sharp15> BluesKaj: i installed ubuntu then installed kubuntu-desktop.  i was trying to modify as little as possible.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> sharp15, recommend kdm
[15:10] <sharp15> BluesKaj: know of any directions for telling ubuntu to use it?  its already installed just not active (i think).
[15:12] <sharp15> or.  maybe i'm not using lightdm.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> sharp15,  choose it at login
[15:12] <sharp15> huh?
[15:18] <sharp15> ok.  kdm is working.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm fixed that.
[15:19] <BluesKaj> sharp15, well if you have kde as default then kdm should be working
[15:19] <sharp15> it wasn't.  i saw the default ubuntu login screen when i booted that machine the first time today.
[15:19] <BluesKaj> windy outside here ...had to leave to rescue the garbage cans
[15:27] <sharp15> is there a way to log kde out from the command shell?
[15:36] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:39] <BluesKaj> sharp15, http://askubuntu.com/questions/1871/how-can-i-safely-shutdown-reboot-logout-kde-from-the-command-line
[15:45] <sharp15> BluesKaj: didn't work.  i guess the problem isn't the button.
[15:46] <BluesKaj> i just logoff the desktop dialog
[15:46] <BluesKaj> with the desktop dialog , rather
[15:47] <sharp15> i'm not sure what that means?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> right click on the desktop , choose leave then logout
[15:48] <sharp15> BluesKaj: that doesn't do anything.  i think a dialog box should come up but it doesn't
[15:49] <BluesKaj> sharp15, ok , install kubuntu-desktop
[15:49] <sharp15> BluesKaj: it is.
[15:49] <sharp15> i installed that yesterday.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> sharp15, so no dialog at all when right clicking on the desktop?
[15:51] <sharp15> BluesKaj: the context menue works just fine.  however, the dialog when clicking 'leave' never shows.
[15:52] <sharp15> 'lock screen' on the same context menu works just fine though.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> sharp15, install plasma-desktop, perhaps
[15:54] <sharp15> BluesKaj: aptitude says that is already installed.
[15:56] <sharp15> attempting to install 'plasma-desktop' gave the same result as before kubuntu-desktop.  "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed."
[15:56] <sharp15> s/before/with/
[15:56] <BluesKaj> sharp15, aptitude doesn't bring in dependencies as well apt-get ..it used to be the best method but apt-get is much better with dependencies etc now
[15:57] <BluesKaj>  as well as apt-get
[15:59] <sharp15> BluesKaj: i'll keep that in mind.  though ubuntu-software-center did the initial install of kubuntu-desktop.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> sharp15, well you're obviously missing some key aspects of the kde/kubuntu desktop packages
[16:00] <sharp15> BluesKaj: missing wouldn't explain why i could logout the first time.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> why not ?
[16:01] <sharp15> i haven't uninstalled anything?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> how does one know when transferring over to kde from unity etc what may or may not install properly
[16:02] <BluesKaj> using aptitude
[16:02] <sharp15> BluesKaj: i did the kubuntu-desktop install with Ubuntu Software Center.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> anyway , gotta go for awhile ...BBL
[16:02] <sharp15> BluesKaj: ok.
[16:04] <sharp15> it was something stored in the saved session.  i told kde to startup with an empty session instead of restoring the old one.  now the confirmation dialogs are back.
[16:07] <sharp15> BluesKaj: thank you for your help.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> sharp15, now you can set your sessions back to "restore to previous session"
[16:38] <onet> Why java plugin to firefox is not fucking easy?
[16:38] <onet> (installation)
[16:39] <DarthFrog> !language | onet
[16:40] <onet> keep your system family-friendly and allow me install java to firefox with fucking 1 click!
[16:41] <bazhang> onet, stop cursing now
[16:41] <onet> Thats not me.
[16:41] <onet> Thats Kubuntu speek...
[16:41] <DarthFrog> onet: By flaunting the channel's etiquette, you're not encouraging anyone to be bothered helping you.
[16:41] <bazhang> onet, just stop it.
[16:42] <DarthFrog> !coc | onet
[16:43] <onet> And i need to read 200 sites to know how to install it?
[16:43] <onet> Lose 4 hours?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> !java
[16:47] <DarthFrog> Also, "apt-cache search java | grep plugin | sort | less" will show you what's available.
[16:47] <onet> This site have 241 lines. Do u think every new user will read this i understand?
[16:48] <onet> Make linux for people...
[16:48] <ikonia> onet: here is the deal, read the info and use it, don't read the info and be quiet
[16:49] <ikonia> onet: if you don't like the fact that you have to do a little learning to adapt to a new operating system, don't use it, use one you know how to use, but either way, drop the attitude and complaining.
[16:49] <onet> ok, what is open-source
[16:49] <onet> ?
[16:49] <ikonia> onet: offtopic for this channel
[16:49] <onet> Should i read next 250 lines to understand this?
[16:49] <ikonia> yes
[16:49] <onet> With every wird what i do not know///
[16:49] <DarthFrog> Whining and moaning belongs on #kubuntu-offtopic.
[16:49] <ikonia> if that's what the document is there to teach you
[16:50] <ikonia> DarthFrog: no, it really doesn't
[16:50] <onet> No, u ar wrong.
[16:50] <ikonia> onet: sorry, I'll try to be clear one more time
[16:50] <onet> Y need to change this, linux should be for everyone, even if someone want read docs.
[16:50] <ikonia> onet: if you need specific help, ask a question and you'll get info on how to resolve it, if you are not happy with that info as it involves reading, you have picked the wrong info
[16:51] <empathy> #schnee
[16:51] <ikonia> onet: it's not, we are not changing kubuntu here, you have a choice 1.) read the docs you've been give 2.) ask a specific question 3.) be quiet
[16:51] <onet> 4) save time = save money => Windows
[16:55] <BluesKaj> ikonia, you're no fun , it was just becoming interesting in here ...probly a troll anyway :)
[16:56] <DarthFrog> Trolls are interesting??  Hmm.  opinions vary.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> it's not an opinion in general DarthFrog , it's particular individual trolls who can be interesting
[17:00] <DarthFrog> You might have a point, I suppose.  Judge things on a case by case basis.  On the whole, though, I find them destructive.
[17:01] <BluesKaj> in a busy chat, yes
[17:18] <sunnyboy988> hello everyone
[17:19] <bazhang> hi
[17:21] <sunnyboy988> i have a question: im configuring a ir-remote for ubunut from a how-to. The how-to is for ubuntu 9.10 and i have 11.10. In the how-to they tell, to edit a file "/etc/udev/rules.d/10-irremote.rules" but i don't have this file... is this file now somewhere else?
[17:28] <DarthFrog> sunnyboy988:  Do you have lirc installed?
[17:28] <sunnyboy988> yes i installed it
[17:29] <DarthFrog> What are you trying to control with the remote?  MythTV?
[17:29] <sunnyboy988> it is a media center pc with xmbc
[17:30] <DarthFrog> Don't know about xmbc, but mythbuntu-control-centre will set up your remote for you.
[17:32] <sunnyboy988> hmm... but i think there are a few things special for xmbc. The how-to is for xmbc written. ( http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Configure_VRC-1100_remote_for_Ubuntu )
[17:32] <DarthFrog> And once lirc is set up to use your remote, all you'll need do then is configure the xmbc portion.
[17:36] <sunnyboy988> DarhFrog: ok... and where do i set this up? in xmbc or in lirc?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> sunnyboy988, http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Setup_Lirc
[17:39] <sunnyboy988> BluesKaj: thank you =)
[17:39] <DarthFrog> sunnyboy988:  Once lirc is working, you're 90% of the way there.
[17:45] <Husar> Hi, how can i install Thunderbird with non english lang?
[17:50] <DarthFrog> Husar: Which language?
[17:55] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:56] <Husar> DarthFrog: i want switch to pl (polish)
[17:56] <Husar> My system lang is pl, and i have installed TB from Muon, but english...
[18:06] <hello_pluto> Hello.  Is there a way to get a list of packages that I uninstalled?
[18:09] <MediaWork> Hi, any british english speakers here?
[18:09] <MediaWork> I know this is off topic, but Im curious how common wording "in lieu of" is in british english.
[18:09] <lordievader> MediaWork, english is usually spoken here, however not everyone is a native speaker.
[18:10] <BluesKaj> MediaWork, in place of ...same meaning
[18:10] <MediaWork> lordievader: I hear americans say "in lieu of"  but never heard english person say it
[18:10] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: yeah.
[18:10] <MediaWork> BluesKaj:  from french
[18:10] <BluesKaj> we use it in Canada as well
[18:11] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: yeah in Canada Quebec and maybe New Orleans in the states
[18:11] <BluesKaj> nope all across Canada
[18:11] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: just surprises me the differences sometimes...
[18:12] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: yes, all over the states as well, I'm suspecting it has to do with Canadians being canadians and mingling...
[18:12] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: and americans being all sorts of americans historically too
[18:12] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: not much mingling between france and england for the last 600 years.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> except in the US around 1776 , when the french allied with the revolutionaries against the brits
[18:14] <MediaWork> BluesKaj: i lived in Scotland for 5 years, then England for another 6 years, never heard this until I met an american.
[18:15] <BluesKaj> better join kubuntu-offtopic MediaWork , we're about to be reminded soon :)
[18:16] <hello_pluto> Hi, I'm having a lot of trouble getting sound to work in Ubuntu. It did work in the past, but after I upgraded, it didn't. I oddly don't have a /proc/asound directory.
[18:17] <Husar> DarthFrog: 'sudo aptitude install thunderbird-locale-pl'
[18:17] <hello_pluto> Also, is there a way to get a list of packages that I uninstalled?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, do you ahve ~/.asoundrc ?
[18:18] <hello_pluto> BluesKaj: No.  I might have when I was doing the troubleshooting.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, describe your no audio symptoms ,
[18:20] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[18:20] <BluesKaj> then turn those controls up to the max
[18:21] <hello_pluto> When I run alsamixer, I get "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory"
[18:22] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[18:23] <hello_pluto> BluesKaj: They're installed.  I have the alsamixer command.
[18:24] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, you have the command but it won't open if those apps aren't installed
[18:24] <hello_pluto> hello_pluto: The apps are installed.
[18:25] <hello_pluto> I know because if I search for them with aptitude there's an i next to them.
[18:25]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...aptitude again
[18:26] <BluesKaj> bbl...errands
[18:26] <hello_pluto> I've been following these two guides: (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit?pli=1) and (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure)
[18:27] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:27] <hello_pluto> I did.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> bet you used aptitude
[18:28] <hello_pluto> Nope.
[18:28] <hello_pluto> I used apt-et.
[18:28] <hello_pluto> *apt-get
[18:40] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto,  aplay-l
[18:40] <hello_pluto> aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...
[18:40] <hello_pluto> sudo gets the same result.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> lspci -nn | grep -i audio
[18:42] <hello_pluto> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audi  Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
[18:44] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, cat /proc/asound/module
[18:45] <hello_pluto> cat: /proc/asound/module: No such file or directory
[18:45] <hello_pluto> No /proc/asound/ directory exists.
[18:46] <hello_pluto> I think I may just restart into a live cd and check out what drivers are loaded and try to force install them in mystem.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, pastebin lsmod|grep '^snd
[18:47] <BluesKaj> then we can modprobe the snd driver to load it
[18:47] <hello_pluto> Did you mean '^snd'?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> yes, ^snd'
[18:48] <BluesKaj> we need to know the module name first
[18:49] <hello_pluto> BluesKaj: It came out blank.
[18:49] <hello_pluto> No output.
[18:49] <BluesKaj> lsmod|grep '^snd' , had no output  ?
[18:49] <hello_pluto> Correct
[18:51] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, have you rebooted since upgrading ?
[18:55] <hello_pluto> BluesKaj: Yes, many times.
[18:57] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, ok run,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ..your missing some kernel modules that should have installed ...intel hde ia very common audio driver and it should have installed by default
[18:57] <BluesKaj> ia=is
[18:58] <hello_pluto> Nothing new installed.
[18:58] <BluesKaj> but alsamixer doesn't load in the terminal ?
[18:59] <hello_pluto> Correct.
[19:02] <dudeeg> Hello! Is there anyone here who know stg about SSDs and partition boundary alignment?
[19:03] <bazhang> dudeeg, the same people in #ubuntu
[19:03] <yofel> parted does usually use the right alignment IIRC
[19:04] <dudeeg> bazhang: oh, sorry. I didn't know that
[19:05] <dudeeg> bazhang: but actually I didn't get really answer about the alignment itself. But okay, I admit that is more hw topic than ubuntu
[19:07] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[19:07] <hello_pluto> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/3.0.0-17-generic-pae/updates/dkms/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[19:08] <hello_pluto> This is what dmesg says:
[19:08] <hello_pluto> snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol __snd_printk (err 0)
[19:12] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, are you running 32bit kubuntu with more than 4G of RAM ?
[19:12] <hello_pluto> 32 GB of ram.
[19:12] <hello_pluto> and 32 bit.
[19:13] <BluesKaj> 32 GB of ram, or 3.2
[19:13] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> 3.0.0-17-generic-pae tells me you may not have the correct modules available ..not certain , but it might be the case
[19:18] <DexterF> hi
[19:18] <DexterF> 10.04LTS: flash does not work anymore. firefox shouws black rectangle in YT, konqueror crashes, mentions nsplugin error
[19:18] <DexterF> ideas?
[19:19] <DexterF> both flashplugin-installer and nonfree are installed, I reinstalled -installer
[19:19] <ale`> hi, I'm having problems with kubuntu 12.04. Kmix is not showin in the tray, and I can't find a way to configure it. how do i do?
[19:19] <hello_pluto> BluesKaj: 32 Gig.
[19:19] <hello_pluto> So, yes, more than 4.
[19:20] <hello_pluto> ale`: Go to the K menu > System Settings > Multimedia.
[19:23] <ale`> hello_pluto: I can't find any kmix settings there :/
[19:23] <hello_pluto> ale`: Oh, sorry, i was thinking phonon. :-P
[19:23] <hello_pluto> Okay, just go to kmenu and type in kmix.  You should see the kmix program.
[19:24] <ale`> yeah, when I run it nothing happens :-/
[19:24] <hello_pluto> ale`: Hm.
[19:24] <BluesKaj> alt+f2 , kmix
[19:25] <RexHaviK> i am seeing knotes or kontact crashing trying to open knotes, hanging on 'create a akonadi resources.......', any one know of it?
[19:25] <ale`> blueskaj, already tried it... something's wrong with it.  How do I stop it? It's really annoying! I can't even use my computer normally when this happens.
[19:27] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, is your system 64 bit but you run 32 bit for stability oe some such ?
[19:28] <ale`> hello_pluto: quite some. http://pastebin.com/shJC8EWn
[19:29] <ale`> hello_pluto: luckily it stayed open long enough to change the master channel.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ale`, you can make more adjustments using alsmixer in the terminal
[19:32] <hello_pluto> I'm fairly certain it's 32 bit.  How do I check for sure?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> uname -a
[19:33] <ale`> BluesKaj: yeah I know about alsamixer, but I needed to select what kmix considers the master channel to get the volume keys working.
[19:34] <hello_pluto> Linux hostname 3.0.0-17-generic-pae #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 17:53:35 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:34] <HelenB> Hello I'm really hating the slowness I get.
[19:34] <HelenB> Please help me.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, yup 32 bit
[19:35] <BluesKaj> but that's just your OS , not your pc ..pc is probly 64 bit if it's less nthen 4 yrs old
[19:35] <BluesKaj> less than
[19:38] <hello_pluto> BluesKaj: Nope, just custom-built it this week. :)
[19:41] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, cat /proc/cpuinfo , look beside 'model name'
[19:41] <BluesKaj> well it's less than 4 yrs old then :)
[19:42] <hello_pluto> Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G530 @ 2.40GHz
[19:45] <hello_pluto> I've been thinking, though.  Since I got that error saying __snd_printk() is an unknown symbol, I searched around the net.  I'm finding snd_printk() is a function with Alsa, but not __snd_printk.   Now I just need to find where __snd_prink is used. :-\
[19:47] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, that's a 64 bit cpu , you should be running a 64bit kubuntu OS with 32G RAM ...that way you'll benefit from the newer kernel modules available
[19:49] <hello_pluto> Alright.  Time for another install!
[19:50] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, also your audio modules will probly install without any problems
[19:51] <hello_pluto> In that case, I'd like to keep my home directory as is.  Only prolbem is, it's encrypted.  If I have the ecryptfs password, am I able to remound the home directory without complaint?
[19:51] <hello_pluto> BTW, thanks BluesKaj.
[19:51] <hello_pluto> :-)
[20:09] <BluesKaj> hello_pluto, if you back up your data by copying to a backup drive or pc , then I reommend you create a / partition for the OS and a  separate /home partition for your data ,to which you can copy your saved home dir/data when finished installing
[20:45] <outlaw> anyone know how to build GO LAUCHER EX themes on ubuntu??
[20:46] <CyberKiLL> hello
[20:47] <outlaw> hello
[20:48] <outlaw>  I need some help getting Android dev tools, ADB etc on ubuntu
[20:54] <SunTsu> outlaw: don't you think some android channel would be more fitting?
[20:55] <outlaw> fucking sorry it wont happen again
[20:55] <CyberKiLL> i lawled
[20:55] <CyberKiLL> he was mad
[20:59] <CyberKiLL> ok so. im a total noob. and trying to get this network working so that web browser willwork.
[20:59] <CyberKiLL> i cant figure out what im doing wrong
[21:00] <CyberKiLL> i found my wireless connection and entered all info
[21:00] <CyberKiLL> still the browser will not connect to anything
[21:53] <home_> anyone know how to fiox issues with a KVM Switch on Ubuntu?
[21:53] <home_> when I switch to my pc for any lenth of time the Ubuntu machine is wierd when I cone back
[21:57] <home_> any ideas?
[22:04] <HelenB> home_, I wouldn't say it's the KVM switch that does it lol.
[22:04] <HelenB> but your graphics card.
[22:04] <HelenB> idk how to fix it lol
[22:58] <len_> Is the new kde 4.8 icon-only task manager (combination laucher/task manager) going to be the default in Kubuntu 12.04?  I've switch to it recently, an really like it a lot.  It allows you to put a lot more launchers on your panel without having to worry about running out of space for task management.
[23:00] <len_> I wouldn't have even noticed it was offered, except I check out the Mageia 2 beta 3, and they are using it as their default.