[00:00] <OiCory> flx1rc1: that actually exited the terminal when I used . run-mozilla.sh"
[00:01] <lorddelta> Hey all, I'm trying to harden my browser, I was having issues recently and noticed the updates for java had failed to install for whatever reason...
[00:01] <OiCory> ubuntu 13.04
[00:01] <flx1rc1> heh well at least it executed
[00:01] <OiCory> jrib:  well xubuntu to be exact, but the #xubuntu is compeltely dead and this doesnt seem to be an xfce issue
[00:01] <flx1rc1> who knows what it actually did
[00:01] <osirisx11> hi all
[00:01] <lorddelta> What can I do to make sure I've got the right (secure) plugins on ubuntu? I'm using 12.04 LTS
[00:01] <osirisx11> I know this is a bit off topic, open to suggestions on where to ask elsewhere, but does anyone know how I can disable secure boot on my asus zenbook? I've googled a lot and it simply isn't listed in my cmos
[00:01] <jrib> OiCory: output of: grep -r seamonkey /etc/apt/sources.list*
[00:02] <zykotick9> osirisx11: is a zenbook ARM or x86/x86_64?
[00:03] <osirisx11> zykotick9: 64
[00:03] <OiCory> jrib: what is the debian equivilant of 'wgetpste'?
[00:03] <jrib> !pastebinit | OiCory
[00:03] <zykotick9> osirisx11: "might" be an option then.  you could try ##hardware perhaps?
[00:03] <osirisx11> thanks zykotick9
[00:03] <OiCory> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5731111/
[00:04] <OiCory> jrib: ^^
[00:05] <jrib> OiCory: ah, looks like it's failing to build in raring if you check https://launchpad.net/~bratherlui/+archive/seamonkey/+packages
[00:06] <OiCory> jrib: what exactly does that mean?
[00:07] <jrib> OiCory: it means the ppa won't have the .deb
[00:07] <OiCory> jrib: how could one remedy this?
[00:07] <jrib> OiCory: debug why it fails to build
[00:09] <OiCory> jrib: ok well I'm mildly uneducated, still dont know all of the administrative things... How can I view the debug log of it?
[00:11] <Thete> Is there a 64 bit steam client?
[00:11] <jrib> OiCory: it's on launchpad.  Or you can try to build it (the deb) yourself. But presumably, you've already built seamonkey since you were trying to run it
[00:11] <jrib> Thete: sort of.  I think it just uses multiarch
[00:11] <Thete> hmm
[00:11] <jrib> hmm
[00:13] <goddard> hey i have an onboard video card and a video card in my pci-e slot, but i use it for some gpu programming.  How can I use my onboard video card instead of the pci-e card?
[00:14] <aladdin> heyyo nice people :). Anyone tested to output the screen through mini display port into the tv? Since when I open the chrome browser it only shows the desktop
[00:14] <OiCory> jrib: I downloaded and tried to install it manually via the release notes on Seamonkey's site. The package also isnt listed in the pkg mngr either
[00:15] <aladdin> no browser view at all unfortunately
[00:16] <aladdin> plz plz plz
[00:17] <gothpaw> so if I use my browser to stream a video to my 2nd display (TV) everything works great the way it should; however if I try to do anything on any of the workspace(s) that are not on the TV it takes my TV stream out of Full Screen every single time. Is there any way to stop this from happening////////////////////////////???????????
[00:17] <gothpaw> oooops.... didn't mean for all the ///??? at the end. keyboard batteries are dying.
[00:19] <aladdin> gothpaw, consequently battery keyboard sucks, no offence unless you don't anything else - sorry this is offtopic
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | aladdin: Always remember we have a flag for it :)
[00:20] <aladdin> SonikkuAmerica, however the 1st question is ubuntu related
[00:20] <gothpaw> aladdin: They certainly do suck.... I am currently awaiting my new silicone keyboards to arrive.
[00:20] <aladdin> SonikkuAmerica, thanks
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> aladdin: Yeah.
[00:22] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: I think it has to do with the TV stream being in the active workspace. If Ubuntu is taken out of that workspace, you lose the TV stream because of the workspace issues. Such is the problem of workspaces.
[00:22] <donavan01> need some help here my network connection seems to be flaking out every few minutes I can get it to come back by clicking on the SSID of the router in the list but it gets really annoying really quick ... since its a new computer and a new wifi I need to find a way to check it out ... what program can I use to monitor both the wifi traffic/signal and whether there is an issue with the hardware
[00:24] <TMV> For a week, I have been attempting to set up a minecraft server onto an ubuntu server that I have purchased. For the first time, I have successfully set up Multicraft on my server, but all around my Multicraft panel, I get error messages like: "No connection for daemon 1" or "No daemons found."
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: In 13.04 you can ditch the workspaces in System Settings > Appearance > Behavior tab.
[00:25] <gothpaw> SonikkuAmerica: is there not a way to set it to display on "All Desktops". This is how I "used" to do it in my OpenSuSe days, however I do not see this option under Ubuntu. **Footnote: I'm not saying SuSe is better**
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: I'm not so sure in Unity. Try using Alt+Space to open the control menu.
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: If there's an option for "Keep on Visible Workspace" you're golden.
[00:27] <gothpaw> SonikkuAmerica: I use them  frquently though, so getting rid of them is not really an option. I tried 13.04 but there was too many things that just wouldn't work (Example: Caffeine)
[00:27] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: Unity may not work right, but the other !flavors usually come with stable DEs.
[00:27] <comradzilla> is there a better way to download ubuntu besides off the website?
[00:27] <comradzilla> it's sooo sloowww
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> comradzilla: Tried BitTorrent?
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !bittorrent
[00:28] <comradzilla> yea i guess i'll do that
[00:28] <Jeruvy> comradzilla torrent is the way to go.
[00:28] <gothpaw> well, the "keep visible" didn't work either... video still steps out of full screen
[00:29] <comradzilla> thanks Jeruvy, dling now
[00:29] <comradzilla> i was being lazy ;/
[00:29] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: There's no way to control that, Flash or HTML5.
[00:30] <SonikkuAmerica> DarkAceZ: (Your name is really Billy Mays? lol)
[00:31] <goddard> hey i have an onboard video card and a video card in my pci-e slot, but i use it for some gpu programming.  How can I use my onboard video card instead of the pci-e card?
[00:32] <SonikkuAmerica> goddard: Optimus?
[00:33] <jqvillanova> goddard: In BIOS
[00:34] <jqvillanova> goddard: You have to put it off the pci-e card in bios
[00:34] <goddard> damn he left after he answered me
[00:34] <goddard> where in the bios is that option?
[00:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !gq | goddard
[00:35] <goddard> !ga | SonikkuAmerica
[00:36] <goddard> damn they need one of those
[00:37] <OgrandtiTi> oi
[00:37] <OgrandtiTi> canal unbunto, aki todos levam no cu
[00:37] <OgrandtiTi> amén
[00:37] <SonikkuAmerica> OgrandtiTi: oi stands for OpenIndiana; support in #openindiana. XD
[00:37] <OgrandtiTi> vai cheirar cu meu bobby
[00:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | OgrandtiTi
[00:38] <OgrandtiTi> inteligentes da punheta
[00:44] <mikubuntu> hey guys :: i wonder if i just bought 2 $10 bricks -- garage sale two old xp laptops, but when i try to boot from usb i get the msg that the system cannot boot. "the kernel requires features that are not present : pae" ... is this a fatal flaw?
[00:45] <donavan01> can someone please give me the name of a tool that I can use for wifi that will give me a survey of signal strength and such
[00:45] <iderik> I am compiling the git source, so I found two interesting methods, but I dont understand what the difference is. Here is the method and output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5731178/
[00:45] <donavan01> im trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my card or my connection of if ubuntu is being stupid
[00:49] <tgm4883> donavan01, nm-tool
[00:50] <Dr_willis> mikubuntu,  newer ubuntu releases require a PAE enabled kernel.
[00:50] <tgm4883> mikubuntu, you need to find a version of ubuntu that supports non-pae processors
[00:50] <Dr_willis> mikubuntu,  try 12.04 on them
[00:50] <Dr_willis> or try some other tiny disrtros
[00:52] <mikubuntu> thanks Dr_willis  and tgm4883 i'm just reading up on it -- seems to be several workarounds, but i don't have time to work on them right now --- if i run into problems, i'll prolly come knocking on your door :P
[00:53] <donavan01> tgm4883 is that in apt
[00:53] <nezzario> Using iwconfig/ifconfig how do I manually set what IP/gateway to use (i.e. NOT use dhcp?)
[00:54] <somsip> nezzario: edit /etc/networks/interfaces
[00:54] <nezzario> err, is there a on-the-spot/ad-hoc way I can do it ?
[00:55] <nezzario> i see an 'addr' option in ipconfig but not a way to set the gateway
[00:55] <somsip> nezzario: I think you would edit that file, then restart networking, but I could be wrong
[00:55] <somsip> nezzario: http://is.gd/zmluh4
[00:55] <nezzario> i was hoping for something like 'somemagiccommand gateway <IP_ADDRESS>'
[00:55] <huttan> nezzario: sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:55] <huttan> nezzario: sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:56] <nezzario> route add.. thanks :)
[00:56] <somsip> huttan: ah.
[00:56] <huttan> nezzario: theres 2 example
[00:56] <nezzario> when I put the 'netmask <IP_ADDRESS>' is that somehow magically setting the gateway?  i was never good at how the CIDR/netmasks actually correlate with routing ..
[00:57] <huttan> nezzario: thats for the netmask, google it if u wanna know in detail
[00:57] <zykotick9> nezzario: no, netmask has nothing to do with gateway...
[00:57] <nezzario> ok, i didn't think so.. i'll google some more .. thanks for the route add bit, though
[01:00] <WilliamPietri> Hi! Is this a good place to ask an upstart question?
[01:04] <WilliamPietri> Hm. Is there a better place to ask an upstart question?
[01:04] <somsip> !ask | WilliamPietri
[01:04] <WilliamPietri> Ok. Thanks.
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !upstart
[01:07] <iderik> I am compiling the git source, so I found two interesting methods, but I dont understand what the difference is. Here is the method and output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5731178/
[01:08] <somsip> iderik: they install to different place - either the default as specified in the Makefile (I guess) , or the --prefix= location (/usr/local in this case)
[01:09] <jrib> iderik: why are you compiling it?
[01:10] <WilliamPietri> Here's my problem: A previously working 12.04.2 installation, no longer starts X on boot. To debug this, I have turned on upstart's verbose logging. There are plenty of upstart events in the log, but nothing involving lightdm. There is a valid-looking lightdm.conf in /etc/init, belonging to 1.2.3-0ubuntu2.1. I see no relevant error messages in the logs. "service lightdm start" brings everything up normally. Thoughts?
[01:11] <iderik> jrib: i want to learn it and i will get a newer version
[01:12] <jrib> !compile | iderik
[01:12] <osirisx111> hi all
[01:12] <osirisx111> i am having some confusion over where to add "discard,noatime" to my fstab, would anyone please advise?
[01:12] <iderik> somsip: ok, thanks!
[01:12] <osirisx111>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5731222/
[01:13] <iderik> jrib: ah, nice
[01:13] <gothpaw> SonikkuAmerica: there has to be some way to control it (again not to say one is better than the other) but I was able to do it under OpenSuSe, There was an option labelled "Keep on all desktops"
[01:13] <SonikkuAmerica> gothpaw: Check in dconf-editor... I know there's a setting to mess with window buttons in there...
[01:14] <donavan01> ok so using linssid I managed to figure out that my wifi still sees my router but  if I try to ping or open a web page it craps out seems like it just keep dropping the connection
[01:14] <donavan01> any idea?
[01:16] <WilliamPietri> !patience
[01:17] <donavan01> ok just started a ping on google.com and it looks like my packets are getting lost some where along the way some come back with a 50ms  and others around 1000ms ... whats the deal
[01:17] <osirisx111> WilliamPietri: but..but..i want my free support NOW! /s
[01:17] <SonikkuAmerica> osirisx111: lol
[01:18] <WilliamPietri> donavan01: Have you tried mtr to look at where the packets are getting slow/lost?
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> osirisx111: I think it's supposed to go under options, but where the tabbing is done is a bit sloppy in /etc/fstab
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> osirisx111: (P.S. We're not J.G. Wentworth.)
[01:18] <WilliamPietri> osirisx111: Sorry, that was for me. The bot mentioned it earlier, and i wondered. :)
[01:19] <gothpaw> wow, thats a lot of settings. I wouldn't even know what to change.
[01:19] <osirisx111> SonikkuAmerica: which mounst should i put it on?
[01:20] <WilliamPietri> osirisx111: what are you trying to achieve with those options? And what disks do you have?
[01:21] <donavan01> wiiliampietri ... will try it
[01:21] <WilliamPietri> donavan01: It's my favorite tool for network WTF.
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> osirisx111: Couldn't tell ya...  And what filesystems are you using?
[01:24] <osirisx111> WilliamPietri: I linked my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5731222/
[01:25] <WilliamPietri> osirisx111: Thanks, I missed that. I would only put it on your root mount. So, "errors=remount-ro,discard,noatime".
[01:25] <histo> osirisx111: mount with noatime,discard if you want
[01:25] <osirisx111> thanks WilliamPietri
[01:26] <osirisx111> + histo
[01:26] <WilliamPietri> osirisx111: Gladly. A good way to pass the time while I'm waiting for an answer on my question!
[01:27] <donavan01> GO! comcast ... 96% packet loss
[01:27] <SonikkuAmerica> YIKES!
[01:29] <osirisx111> SonikkuAmerica: but.. they control a monopoly in many areas, and collect so much money.. surely they must be reinvesting this money back into the system for everyone's happiness
[01:29] <donavan01> some server called ibone ... wonder if it stands for idiot bone
[01:29] <WilliamPietri> donavan01: So it's ~0% at your first hop, but 96% after that, and stays that high all the way to Google? Or does it get better after the 96%?
[01:29] <osirisx111> donavan01: new apple product for dogs
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> osirisx111: Wha...?
[01:30] <osirisx111> SonikkuAmerica: sarcasm
[01:30] <SonikkuAmerica> osirisx111: Whooo??
[01:32] <donavan01> actuall im getting 10-30% loss on the hop to my router ... not sure whats going on there ... interfernece maybe from the other wireless devices in the house
[01:33] <osirisx111> does anyone know if it is possible to change the point at where the mousepad determines left vs right click?
[01:33] <donavan01> damn it ... thing died again got a major dip in the wifi signal strength for some reason ... what the hell is going on with this thing
[01:34] <osirisx111> donavan01:  have you tried the 1980s solution - hitting it?
[01:34] <WilliamPietri> donavan01: I'd definitely start with the first-hop problem. Once you fix that, the other issues may go away. Step 1: test right next to the router. :-) After that, try different channels.  I have a laptop sitting right beside the the machine in question and its working fine
[01:37] <WilliamPietri> donavan01: That's weird with a beard. You might try running mtr on both at once to see if the stats are significantly different. If they are, I'd suspect a hardware problem.
[01:38] <WilliamPietri> Ok. Gotta bolt. Have fun, y'all.
[01:39] <donavan01> good plan hadnt thought of that one ... looks like if I mtr yahoo.com it likes things better than if I do it with google.com
[01:39] <donavan01> 15% loss across all hops and an average which I guess is ok
[01:40] <donavan01> im wondering if its a driver issue ... ubuntu sees the card as a realtek but its a rosewill just wondering if maybe they tinkered with the drivers some how ... was going to use the custom drivers but man that was some evil I didnt want to start building tonight
[01:43] <donavan01> yep I think its hardware just caught it dropping all the singnal strength of all the connections and getting a packet loss of 55% on the router hop
[01:49] <osirisx111> in the ssd optimization guide it says First, list which options you have available with the following command, replacing “X” with the letter of your root drive: cat /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler
[01:49] <osirisx111> but in my fstab it is a raid device, how do i know which sdX it is?
[01:50] <osirisx111> /dev/dm-1 i guess
[01:50] <moses> Is it possible to make it so my ubuntu doesnt need a login to start up?
[01:50] <moses> this is a server
[01:53] <johnjohn1011> will the current 13.04 run unchanged (ie don't need a newer kernel) on the new haswell platform?
[01:57] <duhamel> hey guys, i totaly messed up.  i wrote over 3.7 gb of /dev/mmcblk0p1 with dd. wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of and image of that block for my machine or if i will have to completely reinstall.
[02:00] <danes> hello, is there any gui based app in ubuntu similar to easeus to recover data from damaged or lost partitions?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> danes,  what fs is on the partition?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> theres tools.. but ive never  noticed a gui front end to them
[02:03] <danes> Dr_willis, I cannot recall if its ntfs or fat32 :(
[02:03] <Dr_willis> well the 'system rescue live cd' has numerous tools.  dependng on the size and whats up with it.. ive used ddrescue to image a failing drive to a image file i then mounted/recovered data from
[02:04] <Dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[02:09] <moses> the first is, is there a way to have my ubuntu start up without having it login?
[02:10] <moses> GNOME has an auto-login feature.
[02:10] <moses> Administration -> Login Window -> Security -> Allow Auto-login (select user)
[02:10] <moses> is this true for ubuntu?
[02:12] <somsip> dubzii: is this openelec for pi? (wild guess)
[02:12] <somsip> dubzii: sorry - meant for duhamel and already left
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Openelec has a Pi version. and theres other xbmc-pi variants also.
[02:16] <Dr_willis> ;)
[02:17] <Dr_willis> You can make GDM and Lightdm both autologin if you wanted to
[02:17] <zykotick9> danes: for a non-gui suggestion to recovering partitions, check out testdisk
[02:17] <meLon> Is it possible to have bash completion of files use time modification vs filename for ordering?
[02:17] <somsip> Dr_willis: I only have the Pi and notice the volume ID was the same as duhamel's problem
[02:17] <meLon> OpenELEC for real.. Or omxplayer if you just want a lightweight pi without gui
[02:17] <Dr_willis> If you use the PLEX media server. theres a Plex-Pi in testing thats very.. handy ;)
[02:18] <jqvillanova> somsip: archlnux-arm
[02:18] <somsip> Dr_willis: got openelec running nicely here so no need to fiddle where fiddling is not required :)
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Plex-Pi - has a differnt fetureset/design goal then xbmc however. ;P
[02:18] <Dr_willis> oh wait. its called 'RasPlex'
[02:20] <somsip> Dr_willis: thanks, but seems to add nothing to what I have and what I need. Anyway - OT :)
[02:20] <Dr_willis> it a Plex 'client' thats its whole goal. Im using it with the Plex server on my ubuntu box. ;)
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm.   I dont recall it ever doing that when i had this PC running ubuntu hooked in via hdmi.
[02:26] <wicked> what is the correct practice to access /var/www and change/upload files?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> wicked,  i think one would set up the allowed users to be in specific groups, that would allow them access
[02:27] <somsip> wicked: I add myself to www-data group, make all dirs in /var/www chmod g+s and take that approach. For local dev anyway
[02:28] <wicked> thanks i will try that
[02:29] <ajrty33> i'm trying to install 13.04 from usb, but it boots to "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$". i have an nvidia 650m, but i'm currently running 12.10 just fine.
[02:32] <jrib> somsip: that's not ideal imo because then you probably give apache write permissions on all your web files (which you shouldn't give unless apache should be writing to the files)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> you did   verify the iso file befor burning it ajrty33 ? how did you put the ISO on usb?
[02:33] <fasd643> what could be the problem when suddenly ubuntu won't go online ? the connection is establish but just nothing can access internet
[02:34] <fasd643> anyone
[02:34] <bazhang> !patience | fasd643
[02:34] <ajrty33> i did Dr_willis. i checked the md5.  i used unetbootin
[02:34] <Dr_willis> start with ping tests of the dns servers, and default gateway fasd643
[02:35] <Dr_willis> ajrty33,  you might want to try some other tools to put the iso on usb. you can even use 'dd' if you wanted to. Pendrivelinux site has other tools as well.
[02:35] <ajrty33> ok Dr_willis for some reason i got to the install screen, but i couldnt get 'try ubuntu' to boot
[02:35] <ajrty33> thanks
[02:37] <Dr_willis> ajrty33,  weird.. may be some odd video quirk
[02:38] <Dr_willis> always get these weird got-yas with pcs ;)
[02:38] <Dr_willis> then somthing does work better then you expect and its a total suprise
[02:39] <ajrty33> im assuming its some nvidia issue
[02:41] <Dr_willis> yea. always get hit by little things that sholdent be an issue.. then get suprised by things that  are not. ;)
[02:45] <moses> whats the best DDNS service for ubuntu?
[02:45] <ajrty33> Dr_willis: is 'reinstall ubuntu' without keeping any files as good as reformatting everything?
[02:45] <DouglasK> moses, some ddns services will work with your router... if you can do that, I find it's best.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> that does  reformat as far as i know ajrty33
[02:46] <moses> wow which are those?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> it reuses the partions
[02:46] <ajrty33> ok thanks :D
[02:46] <Dr_willis> my router supports like 3 differnt dynamic dns server things..
[02:46] <Dr_willis> i just dont think theres any that are totally free any more
[02:46] <DouglasK> I know some D-Links do it, Linksys has been known to.  DDWRT does...
[02:46] <Dr_willis> or you can get a client for your linux box that does it.
[02:47] <clcto> gg bruins, 6-1
[02:47] <DouglasK> Actually, dlink offers their own ddns service for free to dlink users.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> well next router i get.. i think im changeing brands.. this linksys/cisco one i got - has been very problematic.
[02:48] <wicked> still have issues with permitions at /var/www after add user to root and/or www-data group
[02:48] <Dr_willis> i tend to get a new router about every 3 years. ;)
[02:49] <wicked> is this the correct command to check folder users/groups ls -l /var/www
[02:49] <somsip_> wicked: and did you log back in after adding yourself to www-data?
[02:49] <wicked> logout and back ip? no
[02:49] <wicked> in*
[02:50] <somsip_> wicked: that recognises the group change
[02:50] <wicked> ok i will try that now thanks again
[02:50] <somsip_> wicked: so you are still not in the groups you added ('groups' will confirm this)
[02:51] <wicked> i can see my self in those goups
[02:52] <somsip_> wicked: can you post your groups output, and the output of ls -la /var/www to pastebin?
[02:52] <wicked> sure a sec
[02:53] <wicked> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  284 Jun  4 03:21 index.html
[02:54] <wicked> so must add user to root group right?
[02:54] <Duan-Wuan> Hello all i'm wondering if someone knows what to do when chrome is has no sound and is not working correctly?
[02:55] <somsip_> wicked: I wouldn't do that. Instead, make www-data the grp for eveyrthing in /var/www. sudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www && sudo chmod g+s www-data /var/www
[02:55] <Duan-Wuan> I tried to uninstall and reinstall using the purge method and normal apt-get remove, however that didn't work the terminal said chrome wasn't installed which is weird
[02:56] <somsip_> wicked: this will allow you to write in /var/www and any files/dirs you create will be chgrp by www-data so the webserver will be okay with this setup
[02:56] <Duan-Wuan> I also tried to uninstall from the app store which didn't work because I could find it
[02:57] <wicked> chmod: cannot access `www-data': No such file or directory
[02:57] <somsip_> wicked: sorry - second command was wrong. just 'sudo chmod g+s /var/www'
[02:58] <wicked> -rw-r--r--  1 root www-data  284 Jun  4 03:21 index.html
[02:59] <somsip_> wicked: and chmod 660 /var/www/index.html just so you can access the index file that is in there
[02:59] <ajrty33> i installed and rebooted, to a black screen. i rebooted again, edited in grub from 'quiet splash' to 'nomodeset', and it booted to a terminal login prompt
[02:59] <wicked> ok, will test now
[03:00] <TheUsD> how does one change permissions to a /mnt/  folder?
[03:00] <somsip_> wicked: now you should be able to create a file in /var/www and edit the existing file, and apache should be able to read them
[03:00] <TheUsD> so that my sudo can add folders and etc...
[03:01] <wicked> yes now it works somsip_
[03:01] <somsip_> wicked: cool
[03:01] <wicked> thank you very much ;)
[03:01] <somsip_> wicked: np
[03:04] <ajrty33> Dr_willis: i installed and rebooted, to a black screen. i rebooted again, edited in grub from 'quiet splash' to 'nomodeset', and it booted to a terminal login prompt
[03:05] <TheUsD> can someone tell me the command to change permissions to my /mnt/2tb1  folder to my "sudo" account and be able to have all permissions?
[03:45] <javier_> hello. odd question. how do I get the context boxes to not have black text?
[03:46] <javier_> when I hover over a link or something the font is too dark. I am running 13.04 unity
[03:46] <javier_> the theme is a dwaita grn+
[03:49] <jcrza_> Hey guys. I was messing around with supervisor and deleted /etc/supervisor/conf.d/ and /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . How can I successfully uninstall and re-install supervisor in a way that those files will re-generate?
[03:49] <Tex_Nick> javier : i'm using Ambience theme ... looks good here ... you might try that
[03:51] <Tex_Nick> javier ^ Ambiance
[03:53] <jcrza_> Anybody have any clue? figured you guys would know
[03:55] <Dr_willis> apt has a reinstall option
[03:55] <jcrza_> it uses pip :(
[03:56] <jcrza_> pip uninstall pip install didn
[03:56] <jcrza_> work*
[03:59] <Tex_Nick> jcrza : i know this doesn't help with your present preoblem but, in the future when tweaking your system ... instead of deleting files you might just rename them ... such as "conf.d.org" ... just a thought
[04:03] <Hexagonite> Need help, LightDM doesn't show my wallpaper.
[04:04] <Hexagonite> ~/images has correct permissions.
[04:05] <ShinyShaymin> hello, i have a very critical problem, I just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and I am no longer able to boot unless I use an older kernel from the last version.  If i use the newer one, the boot fails and all i see is my caps and scroll lock lights blinking, can someone point me in the right direction to fix this problem?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> those lights flashing = kernel crash/freeze   no idea on a fix really then using a difernt kernel
[04:07] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy
[04:07] <ShinyShaymin> so this is the only fix, to use an older kernel?
[04:08] <ShinyShaymin> the newer kernal is 3.2.0, the only other one i have is 2.6
[04:11] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy
[04:13] <goddard> ok so i managed to get my board to be setup to have dual monitors
[04:13] <goddard> but my second monitor is connected to the onboard video and the other is connected to my pci-e card
[04:13] <goddard> the one connected to my onboard monitor is just a black screen
[04:13] <goddard> what can i do?
[04:13] <Hexagonite> So no one knows how to fix the LightDM thing?
[04:13] <ShinyShaymin> trying something silly to get my computer to boot to the new kernel, ill come back in and say if it worked or not.
[04:16] <somsip> goddard: ISTR you need two outputs on one card to do that, or two identical cards.
[04:17] <goddard> somsip, so i can't use my onboard and a pci-e card?
[04:17] <goddard> my motherboard supports it
[04:18] <somsip> goddard: if you can find a webpage that says you can, then you can. I have dual head on one video card, and when I tried to add a third monitor on the on-board video, all research i did suggested that it couldn't be done
[04:18] <somsip> *then maybe you can
[04:20] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy
[04:22] <goddard> somsip, have you looked into loading a windows driver for the virtu technology?
[04:22] <SuperLag> With Xubuntu, I see the splash screen, but I'd like to get to the grub menu so I can boot to single-user mode. How do I get to the menu? I'd like to move some files around before the system loads.
[04:23] <goddard> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTIxOQ
[04:24] <Hexagonite> Hold shift while booting.
[04:24] <Hexagonite> You should get 'GRUB loading...' or something similar.
[04:24] <ShinyShaymin> my problem has not been fixed, ill just nuke it from low orbit
[04:24] <ShinyShaymin> gonna reinstall the OS, wont lose anything, thats what partitions are for!
[04:25] <somsip> goddard: it doesn't fit my use case
[04:25] <SuperLag> Hexagonite: thank you
[04:25] <somsip> goddard: and doesn't imply dual head use. It implies shared load
[04:31] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy
[04:31] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy client
[04:34] <ShinyShaymin> I was just told to "install Gentoo" to fix my problem, that meme is so used up ...
[04:38] <zykotick9> somsip: if i where you, i'd check out some of the old-school xorg.conf options.  fyi, if the video cards are nvidia & ati, you can't use the proprietary drivers at the same time :(
[04:40] <zykotick9> somsip: fyi #2, unity might be a further "issue" in this case...
[04:41] <kimsia> hi there
[04:42] <kimsia> i have successfully used virtualbox to run a ubuntu server and have shared folders inside /media/sf_sharedfolders
[04:42] <philtrem> How can I reboot audio drivers in Ubuntu?
[04:42] <philtrem> I tried: pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload
[04:43] <kimsia> i want to have the the /media/sf_sharedfolders duplicated at /var/virtual with different ownerships and permissions. how do I do that?
[04:43] <rsvp> kimsia, chmod
[04:44] <philtrem> I have problems with my audio card in this computer, always had. Same in linux and windows. But in Windows I deactivate drivers and then enabled them back and it fixes the issue. But in ubuntu I can't get to completely reinitialise them.
[04:44] <kimsia> @rsvp, how do I duplicate the folder in the first place? I tried sudo mount to bind, but it will change the chown back to root:vboxsf again
[04:46] <philtrem> kimisa: cp from source to destination, then chmod on the new dir. I would guess.
[04:46] <rsvp> kimsia, try soft linking using sudo first: ln -s
[04:46] <kimsia> rsvp: how do I duplicate the folder in the first place? I tried sudo mount to bind, but it will change the chown back to root:vboxsf again
[04:47] <Guest96393> heu guys. how does this irc thing work
[04:47] <Guest96393> i installed ubuntu and it broke my moms laptop
[04:48] <Guest96393> what do i do
[04:48] <rsvp> kimsia, but the permissions are reproduced -- I see the difficulty now.
[04:48] <philtrem> Use the recovery partition
[04:48] <philtrem> F8
[04:48] <philtrem> at startup
[04:48] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest96393,
[04:49] <Tex_Nick> !details | Guest96393
[04:49] <rsvp> always thought SAMBA was exclusively for Linux<>Windows, but it also works for LAN Linux<>Android -- so everything is local. Your experience with SMB in this context????
[04:50] <kimsia> rsvp: symlink works
[04:50] <rsvp> it's a cool use of the wifi router.
[04:50] <kimsia> rsvp: but the interior are still root:vboxsf
[04:51] <philtrem> How do you reboot audio drivers on Ubuntu. Sorry for asking again, I'm just making sure people notice the question.
[04:51] <rsvp> kimsia, you could copy the contents, then change the permissions on the copy -- periodically rsync.
[04:52] <Guest96393> well, wehn i start her laptop up it gives me three loud beeps and then black screen with erros
[04:52] <Guest96393> shes going to kill me
[04:52] <cfhowlett> Guest96393, check the manufacturers page for what those 3 errors mean.  Sounds like a hardware failure to me
[04:52] <Guest96393> it shows ubuntu logo first
[04:52] <kimsia> rsvp: i believe some kind of auto mount is possible, because I did it once 6 months ago on my mac
[04:52] <Guest96393> evil logo
[04:53] <Guest96393> broke my mums laptop
[04:53] <kimsia> rsvp: now I forgot how i did that. sadly, I cannot google the solution i found previously.
[04:53] <cfhowlett> Guest96393, how exactly did you install ubuntu
[04:53] <Guest96393> i copied the files on a usb
[04:53] <Guest96393> then booted
[04:53] <Guest96393> installed from it
[04:54] <rsvp> kimsia, but does auto mount break the permissions dependencies?
[04:54] <cfhowlett> Guest96393, "copied"?  how did you copy
[04:54] <Guest96393> ctrl+v... liek when you copy a link
[04:54] <rsvp> Guest96393, no supper for you tonight.
[04:54] <philtrem> @Guest96393 It's very unlikely you broke anything. And if the laptop really is dead, you only are unlucky due to bad timing.
[04:54] <Guest96393> she's going to beat me probably.
[04:54] <Guest96393> it's happened before
[04:55] <Guest96393> phil, what can i do?
[04:55] <cfhowlett> Guest96393, stay focused and answer the question if you want help
[04:55] <Guest96393> i told him, i copied files from iso on to the pendrive
[04:56] <kimsia> rsvp: apparently i have the exact same contents inside /var/virtual/sharedfolders and inside /media/sf_sharedfolders
[04:56] <cfhowlett> Guest96393, HOW did you copy?  what tool did you use?
[04:56] <Guest96393> would it have broken the pendrive if i had porn on it?
[04:56] <rsvp> about the physical abuse, seek a therapist who will contact the proper authorities if your life is in immient danger.
[04:56] <kimsia> however, in sf_sharedfolders, the ownership is root:vboxsf 775
[04:56] <philtrem> Try rebooting. Hit F8 repeatedly at startup. Once you get the menu, if you do. Use the recovery partition to put the computer back "anew". You lose all files by doing this though. But that's the easy solution if you have limited tech knowledge. You can search on google for the procedure.
[04:56] <cfhowlett> Guest96393, OK now you've officially attained trolling status.
[04:56] <kimsia> in /var/virtual/sharedfolders it is www-data:www-data 755
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !who
[04:57] <kimsia> rsvp: I don't believe I used rsync
[04:57] <Guest96393> ubottu sounds like a homosexual
[04:57]  * cfhowlett ... and it begins
[04:57] <somsip> cfhowlett: my money is on the bot
[04:57] <finch> whoop, there it was
[04:58] <Guest96393> wait
[04:58] <cfhowlett> somsip, fair enough.  if we talk about his min-appendage and he doesn't take offense, I think we can say for sure.
[04:58] <Guest96393> so where can i find a therapist?
[04:58] <finch> It seemed unusual that brand new IRC user would be using Xchat
[04:58] <philtrem> Remove the usb, and reboot. Have you tried that ?
[04:58] <Guest96393> preferably one that won't touch my winky
[04:58] <rsvp> kimsia, but with rsync the latest permissions will override changes, unless there's some obscure flags I don't know about.
[04:58] <cfhowlett> !ops|Guest96393,
[04:58] <somsip> !ot | Guest96393
[04:58] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy client
[04:59] <kimsia> rsvp: can give me a link to the resource? I am not entirely familiar with rsync
[04:59] <Guest96393> God.
[04:59] <Guest96393> She is going to beat me.
[04:59] <Guest96393> =/
[04:59] <Guest96393> you guys are no hel
[04:59] <p7ank5te7> Is there any specific playlist format that MPG123 supports?
[04:59] <Guest96393> people at archlinux gave more help
[04:59] <Guest96393> why you so mean
[04:59] <Guest96393> when i broke her laptop with arch they helped fix
[04:59] <shady_> problem adding the facebook account to empathy client
[04:59] <Guest96393> but you guys no help
[04:59] <philtrem> What do you expect
[05:00] <cfhowlett> somsip, bot or idiot?
[05:00] <rsvp> kimsia, it's been around for over 20 years I think. Look at the example first: $ man rsync
[05:00]  * finch watches the drama http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mdjaKW5O1qcmu3xo1_500.gif
[05:00] <somsip> philtrem: please done feed the troll. The ops have been summoned
[05:00] <Guest96393> waiiit
[05:00] <cfhowlett> finch ... :)
[05:00] <somsip> cfhowlett: common garden troll I think.  Kay :)
[05:02] <kimsia> rsvp: thanks anyway, I appreciate your help :)
[05:02] <Guest96393> oooog
[05:02] <Guest96393> tou guys are fducking baddies
[05:03] <Guest96393> i will rape your mom
[05:03] <rsvp> somsik, I'm using Pidgin today
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !ops|Guest96393,
[05:03] <Guest96393> THE WORLD IS BURNING
[05:03] <Guest96393> LETS MASTURBATE
[05:03] <Guest96393> LIKE A FAMILY
[05:03] <Guest96393> <3
[05:03] <p7ank5te7> rsvp: I just did it from the main screen, but I'm using MIRC
[05:03] <somsip> rsvp: no idea about in Pidgin, but /ignore is a general IRC command
[05:03] <zykotick9> rsvp: consider using a "real" irc client
[05:03] <Guest96393> wait
[05:03] <Guest96393> so how can i fix her laptop
[05:03] <Guest96393> i accidentally got jizz on the keys
[05:03] <Guest96393> if she finds the porn
[05:03] <finch> Guest96393: del /s /q \ssytem32
[05:03] <StarOnD> dear all, I want to reset my postgres password so I made this change in my pga_hba.conf >>  local   all             postgres                                trust sameuser,but this is not working. did i misuderstand this while reading it from the inetrnet?
[05:04] <Guest96393> idfk what todo
[05:04] <WeThePeople> elky, read above
[05:04] <Guest96393> Star, you must rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
[05:04] <somsip> StarOnD: that's a bit more of a postgres question than an Ubuntu question. Maybe a postgres channel will help better
[05:04] <somsip> !alis | StarOnD
[05:04] <finch> Myrtti++
[05:04] <finch> You seem like a swell person
[05:05] <cfhowlett> smite?
[05:05] <finch> smitten
[05:05] <elky> WeThePeople, don't ping individual ops kthx.
[05:05] <rsvp> tones, thanks for suggesting xchat
[05:05] <p7ank5te7> Is there a specific playlist format that MPG123 uses? I'm trying to setup a playlist to have it play via asterisk, and can play 1 mp3 at time but tried m3u and it wouldn't play.
[05:05] <StarOnD> sure somip,thank you I am sorry for the question here
[05:05] <WeThePeople> elky, can you kick guest96393?
[05:06] <Ari-Yang> WeThePeople, he just quit...
[05:07] <philtrem> Okay, how do you completely reload audio drivers in Ubuntu?
[05:07] <Connections> Hi
[05:07] <Connections> Yay I can talk now
[05:07]  * Connections was too late attempting to join the last game
[05:07] <Connections> :(
[05:08] <philtrem> I'm talking about cycling, not uninstall/reinstall. (just to be more clear)
[05:08] <WeThePeople> philtrem, what you mean by reload
[05:10] <philtrem> WeThePeople deactivate and reactivate the drivers. Unload then reload.
[05:11] <philtrem> are you kiddin' me
[05:12] <philtrem> what's the purpose of asking the question if you're to quit the second you ask it
[05:13] <ur0pl> hi
[05:13] <cfhowlett> ur0pl, greetings
[05:14] <ur0pl> i try to install 13.01 of fglrx ati driver.  but it says that kernel header is missing. it says /lib/modules/3.8.0-23-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[05:15] <ur0pl> why isnt' that header there?
[05:15] <ur0pl> i dont get it
[05:16] <niel> in a modd to try different distros any suggestions?
[05:16] <rsvp> Q: when a new linux kernel is updated via Synaptic, MUST one restart to use the newer version???
[05:16] <somsip> rsvp: yes
[05:20] <zykotick9> rsvp: somsip is correct in this regard, reboot is required (9 time out of 10... there is some linux-kernel no-reboot-required option... but 90+% of people don't use it... it's Oracle's now i believe)
[05:21] <rweitz> hello. i want to install ubuntu under parallels on my mbp. will that be possible?
[05:21] <rweitz> and which ISO should i download?
[05:21] <rsvp> somsip, usually I do not turn off or restart for months on end -- waiting for an involuntary power outage.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> rweitz, parallels?  no
[05:21] <cfhowlett> !mac|rweitz,
[05:21] <cfhowlett> rweitz, rather, parallels isn't the optimal method
[05:21] <rsvp> zykotick9, you mean ORCL version of Linux?
[05:22] <zykotick9> rsvp: sorry, i forget what the "feature" is called...
[05:22] <rweitz> cfhowlett: i want to run osx by default and run ubuntu/linux just to test certain things. i want to boot to ubuntu and run everything under it
[05:22] <rweitz> cfhowlett: either parallels or virtualbox
[05:22] <Dr_willis> wonder if virtualbox  would do it  better.
[05:22] <rsvp> % never-turn-off-ellison # I believe
[05:23] <cfhowlett> rweitz, I've never used parallels but I've used virtualbox without issue.  for merely testing/playing, I'd suggest VB
[05:23] <rweitz> cfhowlett: okay. i already have parallels, so was wondering whether i could just use it. but virtualbox is no problem.
[05:23] <rweitz> let me download and try
[05:23] <cfhowlett> rweitz, also, see the link I sent
[05:23] <Dr_willis> you can always grab the desktop iso and see.
[05:23] <rweitz> yep, cfhowlett
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Lubuntu may work better for you in a vm then the full ubuntu also
[05:24] <rweitz> the iso says amd64+mac
[05:24] <cfhowlett> rweitz, l/x/ubuntu ...
[05:24] <rweitz> so i wasnt sure what it meant
[05:24] <Dr_willis> that would be for installing Onto a real mac i belive
[05:24] <cfhowlett> rweitz, the amd64 is the mac/64 bit iso
[05:25] <rweitz> cfhowlett: oh. btw if i install the ubuntu version direct to the mac, will it detect all teh h/w?
[05:25] <ur0pl> i try to install 13.01 of fglrx ati driver.  but it says that kernel header is missing. it says /lib/modules/3.8.0-23-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[05:25] <Dr_willis> !headers
[05:25] <rweitz> because the link cfhowlett sent - it says specific versions for specific mac models
[05:25] <cfhowlett> rweitz, again, see the link.  I have no mac, but the mac/ubuntu team has worked out installation by Mac model
[05:25] <rweitz> awesome
[05:26] <rweitz> but first, i will install the VB version
[05:26] <rweitz> 6 minutes to download
[05:27] <cfhowlett> rweitz, have fun.
[05:27] <rweitz> i'll come back later and tell you whether successful :)
[05:27] <anonymous> good luck :D
[05:28] <ur0pl> Dr_willis, okay, it says it is already installed... i don't ghet anything if i do linux-headers-$(uname -r)-dev though
[05:28] <Dr_willis> that was part of the command that gets expanded..
[05:29] <Dr_willis> echo install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:29] <Dr_willis> you are using the .run drivers from ati's web site?
[05:29] <ur0pl> yes
[05:29] <ur0pl> i guessi can do just a force install then
[05:29] <Dr_willis> the .run drivers will want to compile stuff
[05:31] <Jordan_U> ur0pl: What problem are you having with the fglrx from the default repositories?
[05:32] <rsvp> that small envelope in the upper right in Unity, what does that refer to: Skype, Pidgin, Thunderbird? status for what program is indicated?
[05:32] <anonymous> thunderbird, im pretty sure
[05:33] <anonymous> and i think it integrates with skype.
[05:34] <rsvp> it's all blue for the first time ever.
[05:34] <Ethio> how can install free vmware for ubuntu12.04?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> Ethio, get the .deb and sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:35] <Tex_Nick> rsvp : my XChat client also appears there
[05:35] <zykotick9> Ethio: there is nothing "free" about vmware :p
[05:36] <rsvp> Tex_Nick, is my "invisible" status communicated to all relevant programs?
[05:37] <Hexagonite> Need help with LightDM, it doesn't show my background.
[05:38] <rsvp> #firstworldproblems
[05:38] <Hexagonite> Can't there be #firstworldsolutions?
[05:38] <Gabboz> plz keep the chat on topic :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Hexagonite,  checked askubuntu.com seen if others report the same issue?
[05:39] <Hexagonite> None, says I should make the permissions viewable by 'world', it is.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Hexagonite,  is your home encrypted?
[05:39] <Hexagonite> No
[05:39]  * Dr_willis wonders which question that no went to..
[05:39] <Tex_Nick> rsvp : i would think that would be application specific ... if i understand your question
[05:40] <Dr_willis> ;P
[05:41] <Hexagonite> don't think it was a bug, it's a fresh install of Ubuntu
[05:42] <rsvp> Tex_Nick, the problem is that the indicator does not identity the underlying program -- also a problem if one has several mail clients.
[05:46] <Tex_Nick> rsvp : see if this helps ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu
[05:47] <fauzan> good day
[05:49] <rsvp> Tex_Nick, thanks for looking that up... will read it tomorrow. Will head out to my poker game. Thanks all, gn!
[05:49] <anonymous> gn
[05:50] <Tex_Nick> rsvp : hold a poker hand for me & bet BIG ;-)
[05:50] <p7ank5te7> Is there anyone familiar with MPG123 in there by chance?
[05:51] <fauzan> good day
[05:51] <fauzan> wkwkw
[05:53] <odwa_> Umthombo Code Academy a non profit based in Gugs will a social mission to teach programming to youth from disadvantaged areas and push the use of Ubuntu in the township is looking for a volunteer to teach intro to ubuntu and shell. Takers residing in CT can hiller at me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:56] <supertough> how do i get my creative 3d sigma to sound louder on linux?
[05:56] <supertough> on the windows this thing vibrate and crystal clear and loud
[05:57] <Dr_willis> perhaps    http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&q=volume%20quiet
[05:58] <Dr_willis> or play with the mixers
[06:08] <patrickleng> can anyone give me some tips on writing a script to do a timed reboot, then some other commands after reboot?
[06:09] <somsip> patrickleng: look up 'man at' and 'man crontab'. In the latter you would use the @reboot directive to start something on boot
[06:10] <somsip> patrickleng: actually, man shutdown will be easier for the first bit
[06:11] <Tex_Nick> patrickleng:  you might also ask in #bash ... that channel is kind of script specific ;-)
[06:31] <ggherdov> Hi all. How to know the list of files the *would* be installed with a package <pkg>, if <pkg> is not already installed ?
[06:31] <Jordan_U> ggherdov: apt-file
[06:33] <jonathan__> Jordan_U, It doesn't working.. there's no command apt-file.
[06:33] <ggherdov> Jordan_U: is `apt-file` a command ? I don't have a manpage for it
[06:42] <etfb> Does anyone know of a program that will do the equivalent of tail -f FILENAME, but in the GUI instead of a console?  That is, monitor a text file and auto-refresh whenever the file changes.
[06:46] <anonymous> im off for a bit guys, be back in a few hours.
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> etfb: watch? it's not gui though
[06:53] <etfb> I tried seetxt, but it's one of those old-school XWindows apps that doesn't actually cope with modern ideas like mice, menus, the discovery of America, the invention of books, etc etc.  REALLY old school.  The man page should have been in Latin.
[06:53] <etfb> watch is probably overkill - I just want a version of tail -f that's a little more UI-aware.
[06:54] <DaVinciIT> hi all. I need to create a videoguide. can you suggest me software to record desktop and edit it? thank you.
[06:54] <somsip> DaVinciIT: !info lives | DaVinciIT
[06:55] <somsip> DaVinciIT: Hmm. Bot not responding. This might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiVES
[06:55] <somsip> DaVinciIT: not sure if it supports recording, so you may need RecordMyDesktop to get the source file
[06:58] <DaVinciIT> thank you
[06:58] <DaVinciIT> :)
[06:59] <DusteD> DaVinciIT, also have a look at vlc and at mencoder
[06:59] <DusteD> For video editing, checkout kdenlive, for sound editing check audacity
[07:05] <mbnoimi> how can I run Qt5 apps under ubuntu 12.10? I got this error message: "error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Widgets.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:06] <DS-labs> HI guys and girls
[07:06] <DS-labs> what's up
[07:09] <aeon-ltd> mbnoimi: have you installed libqt5widgets5?
[07:09] <mar77i> hi #ubuntu... I'm trying to rebuild perl with -DDEBUGGING... not sure if DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug (gave no error) is the right setting, but the build keeps breaking anyway because of "debian/config.over: Berkeley DB support not enabled, aborting!" -- I really don't get how this is failing.
[07:10] <mbnoimi> aeon-ltd: it's not available in 12.10 repository while it's avaliable for 13.04
[07:10] <DS-labs> So does anyone elses laptop keep overheating with linux 13.04
[07:10] <lessless> To give a mongodb a --rest argument do I need to edit /etc/init.d/mongodb script?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> mbnoimi: if there's no official ppa, then you'll have to compile if you really want to use qt5 apps
[07:11] <mar77i> o/
[07:12] <mbnoimi> aeon-ltd: thx
[07:26] <shape> Anyone here using nvidia? I got a 250 GTS have screen tearing both in videos and in firefox, even after disable compositing, there is still tearing but less. Any ideas onhow to go about fixing this, I don't want to boot into windows everytime I watch movies:(
[07:32] <EvilDin> hi, i am using ubuntu host and gentoo guest, but lxc-shutdown doesn't shutdown gentoo guest, doesn't do anything, with parameter -r it reboots, lxc-stop forces stop of guest, i would like to have safe shutdown of gentoo guests, how ?
[07:33] <somsip> EvilDin: probably more of a query to ask the gentoo people
[07:34] <icedwater> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.2 on a live USB - what could possibly be causing an Input/output error when I try to ls or use sudo?
[07:34] <EvilDin> lol, gentoo people send me to ubuntu people, ubunto people send me to gentoo people :)
[07:34] <somsip> EvilDin: is lxc-stop a gentoo command?
[07:35] <EvilDin> somsip: no that is command on ubuntu host, virtualization lxc
[07:35] <somsip> EvilDin: ah. So I clearly have no idea. I'll shut up now :)
[07:35] <icedwater> Heh, somsip.
[07:35] <mbnoimi> aeon-ltd: I found a PPA for Qt5 but it was unstable (last test was since 3 moths ago) https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-proper
[07:36] <icedwater> OK, seems to be some problem with my SQUASHFS being unable to read some blocks...
[07:37] <icedwater> Brb.
[07:41] <vitimiti> hi o/
[07:42] <cfhowlett> vitimiti, greetings
[07:43] <ghking> hello! Is there someone have used "ipan for Linux"
[07:43] <rambod> hi
[07:43] <ghking> I have download the "IPanForLinux-package-2.0.tar.gz", but don't kown how to install it.
[07:44] <rambod> hi
[07:44] <ghking> after I uncompressed it, there is no"configure"or"deb"or"rpm"files.
[07:44] <Jordan_U> ghking: What does this application do?
, <Jordan_U>
 network disk
[07:47] <Jordan_U> ghking: Similar to dropbox/Ubuntu one ("cloud" hosted space)?
[07:47] <loic84> Hi, I renamed my hostname on ubuntu server, for some reason when I install postfix the wizard still seems to be aware of the old hostname, out of curiosity how can it be?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> loic84: How did you change your hostname?
[07:47] <ghking> Jordan_U: do you kown!
[07:48] <ghking> Jordan_U: Yes, cloud hosted space!
[07:48] <loic84> Jordan_U: echo "newhost" > /etc/hostname && hostname "newhost"
[07:48] <loic84> I also updated /etc/hosts
[07:49] <loic84> also a grep -r on /etc/ return nothing for my old hostname, that's what triggers my curiosity hehe
[07:50] <PWD> Anybody has successfully installed GraphViz for pythong on ubuntu 12.04??
[07:50] <Jordan_U> ghking: Could you please link to the website of the company hosting this service? Is there a reason that you don't want to go with the better supported Ubuntu One or Dropbox?
[07:50] <Chintoo> I want to Install Ubuntu on 64bit processor, with 64bit Windows 8. Basically I want to set up Fedena on it! Will you guys help me?
[07:51] <Pricey> ghking: Is there a 'readme' or 'install' file?
[07:51] <Pricey> !info python-graphviz
[07:51] <MonkeyDust> Chintoo  what's fedena?
[07:52] <PWD> !info graphviz
[07:52] <Chintoo> Fedena is a CMS for schools & colleges based on Ruby
[07:52] <PWD> !info graphviz-python
[07:52] <loic84> I guess debconf stores that old hostname somewhere.
[07:52] <PWD> !info graphviz-dev
[07:52] <Chintoo> !info Fedena
[07:53] <icedwater> PWD: try apt-cache search graphviz python?
[07:54] <icedwater> It seems two of the options are most promising, though. libgv-python and python-pygraphviz.
[07:57] <ghking> Jordan_U: do you know the "great wall firewall".so I can use dropbox
[07:58] <PWD> well i downloaded the deb for graphviz in the installation it said it depend on libgraphviz4 i downloaded and tried to install and i got this error "libxdot4 conflicts with libgraphviz4" how do i solve this?
[07:59] <Samiz_> I can't boot my Ubuntu, not sure how to start finding a solution
[07:59] <Samiz_> I have full disk encryption and the screen that I would have to type in the password is messed up
[07:59] <Samiz_> Flashes cmd line and the graphical interface, won't let my type in the password
[07:59] <Samiz_> What should I do?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> ghking: Possibly ubuntu-cn would be more helpful to you.
[08:01] <Jordan_U> ghking: * #ubuntu-cn
， thank you， i will go there
[08:10] <histo> Samiz_: boot a live cd mount your drive decrypted and fix it or copy your files out.
[08:11] <Samiz_> histo: It's a completely new installation, so I'm not risking losing anything. I'd like to figure out what's wrong though so it doesn't happen again when I might have something in there
[08:14] <Ntemis> hi
[08:14] <Ntemis> i need your help
[08:14] <Ntemis> i removed old kernels on my server but i didnt notice that it did a kernel update
[08:15] <Ntemis> now the new installed kernel is gone
[08:15] <Ntemis> and i was using the old one when i did the removal
[08:15] <Ntemis> now apt get dont find any updates
[08:15] <Ntemis> is it safe to reboot?
[08:16] <Ntemis> am on 3.5.0-31
[08:18] <somsip> Ntemis: I wouldn't. You might need to research more, but maybe download the deb for the kernel you need and install it with dpkg -i. But you really, really need to make sure that this might work before doing it
[08:19] <Ntemis> somsip: There is 1 zombie process
[08:19] <Ntemis> now what?
[08:20] <somsip> Ntemis: what are you telling me?
[08:20] <Ntemis> that i rebooted
[08:21] <Ntemis> and now there is 1 zombie process
[08:21] <somsip> Ntemis: ok
[08:22] <icedwater> OK, just a note... SQUASHFS seems to struggle when I plug in my HTC phone.
[08:22] <Ntemis> found it
[08:22] <Ntemis> 1 Z     0  1776  1761 27  80   0 -     0 exit   ?        00:00:02 /usr/share/webm <defunct>
[08:22] <Ntemis> now what?
[08:23] <icedwater> I am having to reboot again because my live USB is unable to do `ls` and `sudo` ... is there a better way to fix this?
[08:23] <PWD> i am installing libgraphviz and getting conflict msg libxdot4 conflicts with libgraphviz4
[08:25] <Ntemis> oh well
[08:25] <Ntemis> i will just wait for the next kernel update, i hope not too long away
[08:26] <mbnoimi> what's the benefit of .fuse_hiddenxxxxxx files?
[08:27] <emx> how do i prevent the mouse cursor from being sticky when moving it from one monitor to another one?
[08:27] <DJones> emx: There is an option in display settings (I think) to turn sticky edges on or off
[08:28] <shape> Anyone here using nvidia? I get screen tearing even after disabling compositing and  setting power miser to maximum performance and overriding all applications to use  antialising and anisotropic filtering. :( I feel like I'm stuck.
[08:28] <emx> DJones, i swear it wasn't there yesterday :P thanks
[08:28] <DJones> emx: :) At least you know its there now
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[08:34] <aladdin> heyyo nice people :). Anyone tested to output the screen through mini display port into the tv? Since when I open the chrome browser it only shows the desktop
[08:37] <repozitor> i have two access to internet, WiFi and Ethernet
[08:37] <repozitor> and i should work with both of them.
[08:38] <repozitor> but my Ethernet bandwidth is more better than WiFi
[08:38] <repozitor> how to force axel and apt-get use Ethernet instead of WiFi
[08:38] <repozitor> ?
[08:44] <MonkeyDust> repozitor  yes ethernet is safer, faster and more stable than wifi
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> repozitor  disable wifi, ethernet does not need additional config
[08:45] <repozitor> MonkeyDust, can't disable wifi,
[08:45] <repozitor> it connected to security camera :D
[08:52] <mreq> repozitor: if you're on a laptop, there's usually a hardware switch. My Vaio has one and it's switched off ;)
[08:54] <repozitor> mreq, killing computer is the best solution for whenever you want!
[08:54] <repozitor> instead of solving problem
[08:55] <mreq> repozitor: I meant wireless switch, not the power one
[08:55] <repozitor> i ask in channel is there possible to work with both of them?
[08:55] <repozitor> and some specific application use Ethernet
[08:56] <mreq> dunno that
[08:58] <Pumpkin-> it isn't quite what you are looking for, but http://blog.sebastien.raveau.name/2009/04/per-process-routing.html has an example of using PBR to do per-user routing
[08:58] <Pumpkin-> which might be good enough, or might be a springboard to figuring out how to do it truely "per-app".
[08:59] <DusteD> Anyone ever noticed that the LogCat icon in the ADT plugin for eclipse is a "nyan"droid ? :P
[08:59] <Pumpkin-> (like maybe you could launch the app with a wrapper that adds a per-process iptable route to stick users into the the other routing table)
[09:03] <mreq> DusteD: someone still using eclipse? :) I thought that ubuntu folk divides into (g)vim, sublime, gedit and geany ;)
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> it's a java thing
[09:04] <DusteD> mreq, yeah, well, vim is great for editing text, I've yet to see it even remotely compete with a proper IDE in any real-life situations, even with plugins
[09:05] <mreq> DusteD: tried sublime? I do all my programming in it. As a matter of fact I do everything text-related in it - frontend web, backend web (PHP/RoR), documents (XeLaTeX) etc.
[09:05] <Jordan_U> repozitor: Pumpkin-: Per-process routing is complete overkill. All that you need to do is not set a default gateway for the Wireless connection.
[09:06] <DusteD> mreq, nope, have not tried that, but I've seen it before, looks really interesting
[09:07] <mreq> DusteD: give it a shot (maybe wait for 3 to come out - more IDE features), it's free to try
[09:07] <Pumpkin-> I was answering the more general question of "how do I have app A use connection A and app B use connection B".
[09:08] <mreq> DusteD: Once you get used to it, you can't go back. The main "new thing" is multiple selections, allowing you to edit multiple places at once. Also has a HUGE plugin base, including Vintage, which emulates vim
[09:08] <mreq> DusteD: there are nice gifs on it's website
[09:08] <DusteD> Yeah, think that's a really neat idea too :)
[09:08] <DusteD> however, not being opensource, I don't want it
[09:09] <mreq> Yea, i understand that. But it's a miss
[09:09] <DusteD> Even if the full version was free, principle, it's a text-editor, not rocket science :)
[09:09] <DusteD> But, that said, it's still a damn cool editor ;)
[09:09] <smoke> is the freedos package the same as dosemu-freedos ?
[09:09] <mreq> DusteD: don't know about java, but it kicks every-other-editor's ass for everything I tried
[09:09] <mreq> Only use vim now for sudo vim /some/config/file ;)
[09:10] <DusteD> After getting this android job, I've been using eclipse a lot, I even kicked out code::blocks for my own C projects for Eclipse, it's heavy and ugly and slow, and buggy  but I get stuff done in it
[09:11] <mreq> Try reconsidering the opensource-only opinion. Sublime is the only thing i **willingly** paid for
[09:11] <DusteD> android-centric, I do get to hack kernel stuff once in a while, but it's mainly android framework (java garbage and native crap)
[09:11] <DusteD> I might if the temptation becomes too great :P
[09:11] <mreq> :D
[09:11] <mreq> But again, never liked java so I don't know nothing about it
[09:12] <mreq> and sublime
[09:12] <DusteD> I don't like java, or c# so guess what I'm getting to write 90% of the time? :D
[09:12] <mreq> ;)
[09:17] <MMlosh> Hello  I was used to seeing the next -dev release on http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/<package> , but now I don't. The source package is there, but the binary one is not.   Does anyone know what is going on?  (I am sorry, I don't know how to ask a search engine. I am pretty sure it's known)
[09:17] <MMlosh> There seem to be saucy installation media downloadable, so why I am seeing an empty package list?
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> MMlosh  aks in #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> MMlosh  ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <MMlosh> Oh, I never heard about that place
[09:18] <MMlosh> thanks, MonkeyDust
[09:19] <DusteD> mreq, do I have to do something special to make sublime give me function prototypes and struct members (for example if I have struct something s; and I type s. nothing shows up)
[09:19] <mreq> DusteD: If I understand you correctly, you want tab-completion?
[09:19] <DusteD> I do indeed
[09:20] <mreq> you have package control installed?
[09:20] <DusteD> absolutely paramount to productivity for me :)
[09:20] <mreq> of course it is
[09:20] <DusteD> Okay, I'll look for it ^_^ Knowing it's there is half the battle
[09:20] <mreq> package control allows you to easily install plugins
[09:21] <music> hello
[09:21] <cfhowlett> music, greetings
[09:21] <mreq> here's the package control - http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/package_control; there is a LOT of plugins, search for something java-like here: http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/community
[09:21] <DusteD> ah cool
[09:22] <mreq> once you install package control, you can install plugin from sublime directly
[09:22] <mreq> just ctrl+shift+p and type install package
[09:23] <mreq> you can join #sublimetext
[09:23] <mreq> so that we don't spam #ubuntu
[09:27] <peping> hello. My laptop doesn't want to go to bed. To be more precise, it has some kind of insomnia: When I suspend it, it suspends successfully, but after a second or so, it wakes up again, but does not display anything on screen. I have a similar issue even when i try to power it off: It powers down successfully, but after a second or so it powers back on as if I just restarted. This happens only if i suspend/turn off the computer from this Ubuntu-based distro:
[09:27] <peping> Elementary OS. I don't think it has anything to do with it not being just plain Ubuntu - pm-suspend does the same thing.
[09:28] <peping> any ideas on what I should google? Or what might be the cause?
[09:28] <mreq> peping: ubuntu worked properly?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> peping, for starters ... swap
[09:28] <peping> mreq: Windows 8 works properly, I have dualboot.
[09:29] <peping> cfhowlett: swap wouldn't be the cause for failing to power off without turning itself on immediatly, would it? Other than that, what is your question exactly.
[09:30] <DJones> peping: Elementary OS have their own IRC channel on freenode, #elementary because there could be differences between UBuntu & Elementary, you're probably better asking in that channel
[09:31] <linux_> ...
[09:31] <mreq> peping: if you have a clean install, try replacing it with ubuntu, you can install all the eos stuff
[09:31] <peping> DJones: That channel is quiet and last time I asked a question there, no answer came for 2 hours, after which I gave up. And i don't think this is a distro-dependant question...
[09:31] <mreq> if the ubuntu suspend works, you know it's eos' fault
[09:31] <linuxwang> hgh\\
[09:32] <peping> mreq: well... Thanks, I'll try. Would a live USB stick suffice?
[09:32] <peping> or is there something missing?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> peping, suspend/restore issues typically implicate /swap
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> init 6 in chroot environment != good idea
[09:34] <peping> thanks, I'll look into that too.
[09:34] <histo> MonkeyDust: why did you do that?
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> histo  testing chroot
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> histo  also: X in chroot etc
[09:36] <histo> MonkeyDust: have you played with lxc yet?
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> histo  yes, it's with lxc
[09:37] <xlaire> what
[09:38] <xlaire> the difference between ubuntu server and cloud server?
[09:38] <histo> MonkeyDust: Well you should be able to reboot a container just fine then.
[09:41] <MrQuist> Freeaqingme, hi there
[09:41] <DJones> xlaire: You might be better asking that in #ubuntu-server
[09:41] <xlaire> ty DJones
[09:42] <Freeaqingme> ohi MrQuist
[09:45] <Shirakawasuna> so ubuntu for android... is that ever happening?
[09:45] <Shirakawasuna> announced over a year ago and nothing released yet
[09:46] <DJones> !touch | Shirakawasuna The bots link & channel should be able to tell you the latest info,
[09:48] <Shirakawasuna> ubuntu touch != ubuntu for android
[09:49] <DJones> Thats the channel where all of the tablet/phone discussions where amalgamated in
[09:50] <Shirakawasuna> sigh
[09:50] <Shirakawasuna> alright I'll let the channel be silent again then
[09:51] <lakhan> hi
[09:51] <lapalu> Hi
[09:51] <lakhan> asl?
[09:51] <lapalu> new?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> lapalu, old?
[09:52] <lakhan> wassup?
[09:54] <Guest14662> Hello
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Guest14662, greetings
[09:54] <Snype__> where can i req. support regarding python?
[09:54] <somsip> Snype__: ##python
[09:55] <Snype__> #python says register first
[09:55] <Snype__> i dont know how to
[09:55] <somsip> !register | Snype__
[09:55] <histo> !register | Snype__
[09:56] <icedwater> Nice how #ubuntu works as a concierge channel since so many new users to Ubuntu are new to Linux in general :)
[09:57] <icedwater> It's really good to see.
[09:57] <forever__> Hello All
[09:57] <forever__> i need help
[09:57] <icedwater> forever__: go on...
[09:57] <cfhowlett> details|forever_,
[09:57] <mreq> icedwater: yep, ubuntu is the natural first step for a new-linux user. I started using linux 1.5 year back and ubuntu was the most friendly for me
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !details|forever_,
[09:58] <somsip> icedwater: I have nothing else to do while pip is installing some requirements...
[09:58] <forever__> i installed BT5 GNOME but no sound !
[09:58] <forever__> help
[09:58] <cfhowlett> forever_, bt is not supported here.
[09:58] <icedwater> mreq: heh. I was handed a live CD in 2005 because I never got around to partitioning a laptop at that time :)
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|forever_,
[09:59] <icedwater> Hoary Hedgehog? Or W_- Warthog. I can't remember.
[10:00] <mreq> my first ubuntu-only pc ran 12.04 ;)
[10:00] <mreq> now I am super happy with xubuntu 13.04
[10:08] <lapalu> Where can I find support for 'Mixxx' for my 'M-Audio Xponent'?
[10:08] <vitimiti> hi o/
[10:12] <mogaj> How to open virtual host sites in lan?
[10:13] <mreq> mogaj: virtualbox?
[10:13] <TiagoTT> on which web server?
[10:13] <mogaj> vhosts
[10:13] <mreq> mogaj: you have to give them bridged network and find out it's IP from the terminal
[10:13] <TiagoTT> mogaj: on which web server?
[10:14] <mogaj> TiagoTT : apache
[10:14] <mogaj> bridge newtwork?
[10:14] <mogaj> how can i do that?
[10:15] <bekks> mogaj: In the settings of the vm in vbox.
[10:16] <TiagoTT> mogaj: bridge network is for virtual machines, for apache vhosts you have to use Allow from X.X.X.X
[10:16] <TiagoTT> mogaj: see the first answer here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5436626/how-can-i-limit-access-to-a-virtual-host-subdomain-to-a-few-specific-ips
[10:17] <TiagoTT> mogaj: on the Directory section, use "Order Deny,Allow", "Deny from all" and then "Allow from 111.22.33"
[10:21] <mogaj>  TiagoTT: i have Allow from all ... will this not work?
[10:22] <TiagoTT> mogaj: Here, the Apache docs: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authz_host.html
[10:22] <TiagoTT> mogaj: with Allow from all, it will not restrict access from outside the restricted network
[10:23] <Samiz_> hmm
[10:23] <dehbohtaw> how can i enable verbose booting? i mean i want to see all system messages whenever  i boot up
[10:23] <Samiz_> I have a fucked up ubuntu installation that can't boot since the whole disk encryption password screen is messed up
[10:23] <Samiz_> can't enter the password
[10:24] <Guest23378> ....
[10:24] <Samiz_> what's funny is that I can't even boot fedora live disk because it bugs out when it notices the encrypted disk
[10:24] <Samiz_> wwtf
[10:24] <Guest23378> can you speak chinese?
[10:28] <dehbohtaw> how can i start the X Window system from the console  stating that i want to use 16 bit colour? I do not want to use 24bit!
[10:29] <DusteD> dehbohtaw, tried editing the depth option in xorg.conf ?
[10:30] <Walex> dehbohtaw: that's extremely strange nowadays. Lots of stuff might break if you use 16bit colour
[10:30] <dehbohtaw> i do not have an xorg.conf
[10:30] <Walex> dehbohtaw: anyhow 'man Xorg' will tell you
[10:31] <DusteD> dehbohtaw, then you should create it, containing a basic setup allowing you to define 16 bit. Also, there is no reason 16 bit5 shouldn't work
[10:31] <dehbohtaw> what
[10:32] <DusteD> xorg.conf
[10:33] <dehbohtaw> how can i create it? i do not want to mess up my 24bit configuration which does NOT depend on an existing xorg.conf. I repeat xorg.conf does not exist on my system
[10:34] <lessent> hi all, i cant watch any video on youtube. but i can watch other platform for ex: "vimeo". when i disable my plugin, and i cant watch with html5 also. but when i changed my gateway with vpn, i can watch on youtube.. can you help me? how can i watch with my own connection??
[10:34] <dehbohtaw> i want to try and start a 16 bit colour X session from the console first before creating/editing any files!
[10:34] <cfhowlett> lessent, are you in china or someplace where YT is blocked?
[10:34] <wedza> coucou
[10:34] <wedza> ,gh,
[10:34] <DusteD> If it existed, you would not be able to create it, so, it is implied in my response that I understand that it is not there, especially since I initially asked you to edit it. You create it using a text-editor, and you can always return to your existing (automatic, I assume) setup by simply removing or moving the file.
[10:34] <wedza> g,
[10:34] <lessent> nope.. i m from turkey.. and here s not blocked..
[10:35] <lessent> and my dns: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:35] <dehbohtaw> DusteD, i want to try and start a 16 bit colour X session from the console first before creating  any files
[10:36] <DusteD> dehbohtaw, try as you might, you will fail.
[10:36] <gagan_> hey there ...i want to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 ...is it good..?
[10:37] <lessent> cfhowlett, youtube s not blocked here, but i use dns server even it would be blocked..
[10:37] <dehbohtaw> how can i enable verbose booting? i mean i want to see all system messages whenever  i boot up
[10:37] <DusteD> Except, if you edit the source code of X to look for a -bpp parameter and set some overriding variable to atoi(argv[positionOfBppParm+1])
[10:38] <DusteD> and building X over, which seems like a huge way around not creating a configuration file
[10:38] <DusteD> But, having hacked X and gotten out of the experience alive, I say go for it! :D
[10:39] <dehbohtaw> DusteD, i found the solution to my xorg question: startx -- -depth 16
[10:39] <DusteD> or look at the right manual page and see how to do it http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/startx.1.html
[10:43] <dc-home> are there any chans for ubuntu@macbooks ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !mac|dc-home,
[10:45] <dc-home> cfhowlett: the wiki doesnt help me with my current problem.
[10:45] <cfhowlett> dc-home, ah.  ok.  sorry. see the forums is my suggestion.  Closest I've come to a mac was my Snow Leopard hackintosh ...
[10:48] <dehbohtaw> how can i enable verbose booting? i mean i want to see all system messages whenever  i boot up
[10:49] <funch> dehbohtaw imo u had to remove some flag in grub
[10:49] <Joschii> hi
[10:49] <cfhowlett> dehbohtaw, you'll have to edit grub to remove the "silent splash" flag
[10:49] <funch> not sure, but u can take a look into it
[10:49] <icedwater> dehbohtaw: I think changing the grub config to remove quiet and nosplash works for that.
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Joschii, greetings
[10:49] <icedwater> Oh, is it "silent" ?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> icedwater, quiet or silent.  should be pretty obvious
[10:51] <icedwater> Yup, I think you can change it in /etc/default/grub these days.
[10:52] <icedwater> And remember to do update-grub after.
[10:57] <mogaj> I am not able to open lot of websites in my ststem mine is Ubuntu 13.04 OS but the other in same LAN are windows in which all websites are opening why is this ? do i need make any settings change in my Ubuntu system?
[10:58] <mimmo_> ciao!list
[11:00] <bencc> increasing the nofile limit in /etc/security/limits.conf affects scripts in /etc/init.d ?
[11:01] <bekks> bencc: It affects the whole system.
[11:02] <babilen> mogaj: Ah, I see you are here already. Please do not cross-post to #debian as we do not support Ubuntu (or other derivatives) in that channel.
[11:02] <bencc> bekks: a server started with upstart still sees the old limit
[11:03] <bekks> bencc: Did you reboot?
[11:03] <mogaj> babilen : Thank you i will keep that in mind
[11:04] <bencc> bekks: yes
[11:04] <bencc> bekks: not sure it's that simple: http://bryanmarty.com/blog/2012/02/10/setting-nofile-limit-upstart/
[11:04] <chaudhary> HI, I've a shell script. I want it to get installed on my friends computer like I did on mine, basically copy it in /usr/bin etc. I don't know how to get started on installation part of softwares, I'm looking for some useful links.
[11:05] <bekks> bencc: I guess its that easy.
[11:06] <bencc> bekks: it's not because not everything is afffected by settings in /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:06] <bekks> bencc: Well, the solution is described in your link article.
[11:07] <bencc> bekks: I'm trying to understand when the settings have an effect and when not. you probably not familiar with this subject so thanks anyway
[11:09] <bekks> bencc: I am pretty familiar with this subject, since I am using limits for years now for running servers. If you dont want my answers, maybe someone else will point out that both the answer to "when do limits have effect and when not" and "how to set a limit for upstart" are described in the link you posted.
[11:16] <PoolShark__> has anyone successfully gotten bcache working on 13.04 server?
[11:17] <foofoobar> Hi. I'm trying to install mongodb. I installed it like the wrote in their docs. then I run sudo service mongodb start
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !info mongodb
[11:17] <foofoobar> I get: mongodb start/running, process 6279
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: do you have the doc link?
[11:18] <lolmaus> `update-rc.d -f thin defaults` says "System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/thin already exist". But when i reboot the server, thin is not started and i have to `service thin start` manually. Why?
[11:18] <Kii> hi there
[11:18] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/
[11:18] <Kii> can someone help me install openGL ?
[11:18] <Kii> i'm trying to compile a game, but i cannot find the lib
[11:19] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip: I installed without any problems, and sudo service mongodb start does not throw any error
[11:19] <foofoobar> But it's not running (ps aux does not show it and I cant connect via "mongo")
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: did you add that extra package source?
[11:19] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip: Yes, it installed without any problem
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: did you not try the version in the official ubuntu repos first?
[11:20] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip: no
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: I suggest you try that first
[11:21] <Kii> how do I know if openGL is installed ?
[11:23] <dehbohtaw> how can i enable verbose booting? i mean i want to see all system messages whenever  i boot up
[11:23] <dehbohtaw> booting up, pressing the SHIFT key, then typing e, pressing  the RETURN key and  removing quiet and nosplash  does NOT achieve what i want to achieve
[11:25] <dehbohtaw> booting up, pressing the SHIFT key, then typing e  and  removing quiet and nosplash, F10  does NOT achieve what i want to achieve
[11:28] <shape> HI, ANY programs like DISK UTILITY in the command line, yknow to check out S.M.A.R.T.  data, bad sectors, etc.?
[11:30] <pratz> Hello guys
[11:30] <pratz> Is there any good app for commenting on images ?
[11:30] <brainwash> shape: you can use smartctl to get S.M.A.R.T. status information
[11:30] <pratz> i.e I have an image and I would like to place some comments on the image
[11:31] <shape> brainwash: yep i found that thanks!
[11:39] <pratz> I have an image and I would like to place some comments on the image, what's a good app for it ?
[11:39] <brainwash> pratz: try Shutter
[11:41] <foofoobar> Where can I deactivate the "autostart" of a service in upstart?
[11:44] <brainwash> foofoobar: navigate to /etc/init/, create a file with the name <service>.override and add the line "manual" to it
[11:44] <basiclaser> hey guys is anyone around to help me set up a bluetooth headset? im messing around with pulseaudio, bluemon and stream2ip, but not really sure what i am doing :D I can get the headest to pair and connect to my pc, but audio passes through pc speakers. I see no option for bluetooth headset in sound settings either
[11:45] <PoolShark__> weird
[11:45] <foofoobar> brainwash: I found a file named /etc/init/myservice where I found start on runlevel
[11:45] <foofoobar> can I also replace runlevel with manual?
[11:45] <PoolShark__> the latest saucy kernel is 3.9.4, but I'm only getting 3.9.0 when installing the source package
[11:46] <chaudhary> How can I upload one of my application on Ubuntu Software Center
[11:46] <DJones> PoolShark__: #ubuntu+1 is probably the best channel for that
[11:46] <brainwash> foofoobar: if you are editing the .conf directly, you should change it to "start on never"
[11:47] <pratz> brainwash: can i place comments with shutter ?
[11:47] <brainwash> foofoobar: but an update might revert that change
[11:47] <foofoobar> brainwash: okay
[11:49] <pratz> brainwash: ??
[11:49] <brainwash> pratz: you can add text/objects to the image, or are you looking for a way to add comments without manipulating the image (meta data)?
[11:49] <pratz> brainwash: I will install it
[11:51] <alek1> Hello everybody, I am very new to ubuntu. I have a virtual machine which was DDOSED about 2 days ago. My provider (host) was forced to deactivate it. After they have reactivated it (this monday) all the data from my old server was stored on partition, now I need to restore this data to the machine I am currently on. I would really appriciate any help I can get! They have sent me a guide which
[11:51] <alek1> unfortunatly is in German and very very vague for a unexpirienced user. I would really appriciate anyone having a quick glance at this issue http://www.netcup-wiki.de/wiki/Rettungssystem . Thanks!
[11:56] <lessent> hi all, i cant watch any video on youtube. but i can watch other platform for ex: "vimeo". when i disable my plugin, and i cant watch with html5 also. but when i changed my gateway with vpn, i can watch on youtube.. can you help me? how can i watch with my own connection??
[11:56] <basiclaser> hey guys is anyone around to help me set up a bluetooth headset? im messing around with pulseaudio, bluemon and stream2ip, but not really sure what i am doing :D I can get the headset to pair and connect to my pc, but audio passes through pc speakers. I see no option for bluetooth headset in sound settings either
[11:57] <Spirit> around 1500 people here alek1, I hope that SOMEONE will eventually wakes up
[11:58] <ObrienDave> *haven't had my coffee yet* *YAWN*
[12:01] <brainwash> basiclaser: try asking in #pulseaudio if nobody here is able to answer your question
[12:01] <alek1> brainwash would you mind taking a look at my question?
[12:02] <ObrienDave> what's the question alek1?
[12:02] <Spirit> 13:51] <alek1> Hello everybody, I am very new to ubuntu. I have a virtual machine which was DDOSED about 2 days ago. My provider (host) was forced to deactivate it. After they have reactivated it (this monday) all the data from my old server was stored on partition, now I need to restore this data to the machine I am currently on. I would really appriciate any help I can get! They have sent me a guide which
[12:02] <Spirit> [13:51] <alek1> unfortunatly is in German and very very vague for a unexpirienced user. I would really appriciate anyone having a quick glance at this issue http://www.netcup-wiki.de/wiki/Rettungssystem . Thanks!
[12:02] <ChristW1> If I have 'trickled' running, why do I have to run 'trickle' before every command? I assumed that it would automatically, system-wide, do the trickling... Any tips on how to get 'auto-trickle'?
[12:02] <brainwash> alek1: you are basically looking for someone to translate that wiki article?
[12:03] <alek1> no
[12:03] <alek1> for someone who understands simple linux commands :>
[12:03] <mogaj> I am not able to open lot of websites in my ststem mine is Ubuntu 13.04 OS but the other in same LAN are windows in which all websites are opening why is this ? do i need make any settings change in my Ubuntu system?
[12:03] <alek1> I got google translate but I dont understand how to get things working
[12:06] <basiclaser> Any tutorials on setting up a bluetooth headset on ubuntu 12.04??
[12:08] <brainwash> alek1: maybe you mention what exactly you want to know, i'm not an expert when it comes to server stuff
[12:08] <compdoc> alek1, possible to pastebin the doc in english?
[12:10] <compdoc> mogaj, do you know how to use pastebin? the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf  and the output of the command 'ifconfig' would be helpful
[12:12] <brainwash> compdoc: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netcup-wiki.de%2Fwiki%2FRettungssystem
[12:12] <mogaj> compdoc i am not able to access pastebin site too ... irc is working and google works but when click the search results link its not working
[12:16] <mogaj> compdoc: there is not resolv.conf file but there is /etc/resovconf directory
[12:16] <aladdin> by the way I found the answer to my question whicih was:  Anyone tested to output the screen through mini display port into the tv? Since when I open the chrome browser it only shows the desktop. The answer is click on the tick on Display settings
[12:18] <mogaj> compdoc : ifconfig http://pastebin.com/MNWK6xvz
[12:19] <compdoc> mogaj, type:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:19] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/MNWK6xvz does not exist
[12:20] <mogaj> compdoc: cat: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory
[12:20] <urist_> Hello folks, I'm trying to remove a conky config to replace it with something else and I can't seem to get rid of this one config... I've tried removing and reinstalling conky
[12:20] <urist_> also this conky config always gives me streams of errors on the terminal when I start conky
[12:21] <mogaj> compdoc : ifconfig http://pastebin.com/wDyeq0s2
[12:21] <compdoc> mogaj, sorry, but my 13.04 is not set up. I cant tell if they have removed that file, but I dont think so
[12:21] <pagios> hello first time user, i am planing on installing a webserver that will mainly store files in /var i am partioning as follow please let me know if that is fine: EXT3 Mount / Primary 20GB , SWAP Logical 6GB /var Logical ext3 135 GB
[12:21] <mogaj> compdoc there is resolvconf directory
[12:21] <PoolShark__> so anyway, I grabbed the 3.9.0 kernel for raring, but it doesn't appear that the bcache module was included in it...
[12:22] <schnuffle> pagios: I would create a boot partition and root should be a LV as well
[12:22] <mogaj> compdoc : my OS is ubuntu 12.04
[12:22] <pagios> schmidtm: boot would have what size?
[12:22] <compdoc> mogaj, the resolvconf directory should exist
[12:22] <mogaj> sorry about that
[12:23] <schnuffle> pagios: 1GB is far more than ypu need
[12:23] <mogaj> compdoc : yes there is resolvconf directory but no resolv.conf file
[12:23] <compdoc> mogaj, type: cd /run/resolvconf/
[12:24] <compdoc> mogaj, does resolv.conf exist in there?
[12:24] <mogaj> compdoc: no
[12:25] <compdoc> mogaj, something has been deleted. Try creating /etc/resolv.conf manually:  sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[12:25] <mogaj> compdoc : is due to the missing resolv.conf my internet not working properly?
[12:26] <compdoc> yes
[12:26] <mogaj> compdoc : just creation file is enough?
[12:27] <compdoc> mogaj, well, its not correct. /etc/resolv.conf on my system is a link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[12:27] <compdoc> but its shoul make it work
[12:27] <samgabbay> can someone send me the browser tor bundle on a mega.co.il or something upload service because i cant download it its blocked
[12:27] <samgabbay> for windows
[12:28] <mogaj> compdoc: created /etc/resolv.conf
[12:28] <airtonix> samgabbay: wrong channel perhaps?
[12:28] <tithan> hey
[12:28] <samgabbay> Airtonix possible but i need it because im at school and i gotta work on stuff and i need it urgently
[12:28] <samgabbay> please :)
[12:29] <compdoc> in /etc/resolv.conf, place a line:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>     (use your own dns server that the windows machines use)
[12:29] <compdoc> mogaj ^
[12:30] <mercfate> hello
[12:31] <samgabbay> can someone send me the browser tor bundle on a mega.co.il or something upload service because i cant download it its blocked  for windows please
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:31] <OerHeks> samgabbay, wrong channel, try ##windows
[12:32] <samgabbay> il be back soon someone email it to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ik but i need it urgent
[12:32] <airtonix> sounds legit
[12:32] <pagios> better to go ext4 or ext3 as filesystem?
[12:32] <compdoc> mogaj, your network config is a little screwed up too. You have et0, which has no ip address, and eth2 which is <IP_ADDRESS>. You have two netowrk cards? what happened to eth1? have you been adding and removing nics?
[12:32] <mercfate> how i can change between desktops automatically?
[12:32] <airtonix> mercfate: define "desktop"
[12:33] <mogaj> compdoc: i have done no susch thing ... but right now websites are opening fine after creating the resolv.conf file
[12:33] <airtonix> mercfate: desktop environment? virtual desktop? desktop machines in a room?
[12:33] <mercfate> workspace
[12:34] <airtonix> mercfate: now define automatically?
[12:34] <compdoc> mogaj, whu do you think /etc/resolv.conf was deleted?
[12:34] <compdoc> why
[12:34] <mercfate> in 3 seconds
[12:34] <mercfate> change to workspace 2
[12:34] <airtonix> mercfate: randomly? when you turn computer on? when something happens?
[12:34] <mercfate> in time
[12:34] <mogaj> compdoc: i dont know ... i installed the sytem aboout two days back ... from then on i am trying resolve this intenet issue
[12:35] <mercfate> let me explain
[12:35] <gustav_> Helloo. supertuxkart keeps locking up. Not sure why. Any ideas?
[12:35] <Kii> hi there
[12:35] <gustav_> Hi.
[12:35] <airtonix> mercfate: next time work on asking the question properly next time. it saves time running around in circles. but you should checkout devilspie
[12:35] <compdoc> mogaj, can you open Disk Utility?
[12:35] <mercfate> i have a 46" tv and i use this like monitor
[12:36] <mogaj> compdoc: yes
[12:36] <Kii> I need help to compile a game, Extreme Tux Racer, when I autogen it, i'm asked to give the libraries
[12:36] <mercfate> in this tv i check concetivity links
[12:36] <Kii> thought I cannot
[12:36] <Kii> *** Hmm, you don't seem to have OpenGL libraries installed in the standard
[12:36] <Kii> *** location (/usr/lib).  I'll check in /usr/X11R6/lib, since
[12:36] <Kii> *** many distributions (incorrectly) put OpenGL libs there.
[12:36] <FloodBot1> Kii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <Kii> oops, sory
[12:36] <compdoc> mogaj, in disk util, click your hard drive and look where it says the health of the drive. does it have bad sectors?
[12:37] <mercfate> and i need to change to another workspace in 3 or 4 seconds automatically
[12:37] <compdoc> you may have to max the window
[12:37] <Kii> my question is where can I find this libraries
[12:37] <Kii> I know openGL is installed, thanks to glxinfo and glxgears, but where are the libraries ?
[12:37] <mogaj> compdoc : system is healthy it says
[12:38] <compdoc> good
[12:38] <Kii> can someone help me
[12:39] <Kii> how can I know where the openGL libraries are ?
[12:39] <airtonix> Kii: 1. open the README, 2. compile time libraries are usually packages in the repo with the -dev suffix 3. when asking for help to compile something be prepared to use pastebn and pastebinit
[12:40] <mogaj> compdoc : is the file creation in /etc is fine .. do i have to create in run/resolvconf and link it to /etc ?
[12:40] <Kii> yep, sry for the pastbin, i read the readme and follow the process
[12:41] <brainwash> Kii: did you run "sudo apt-get build-dep extremetuxracer" to download the needed dev packages?
[12:41] <demonoid_me> hello to all
[12:41] <compdoc> mogaj, thats how it should exist, but the link needs special permmissions:
[12:41] <compdoc> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root      29 Nov  8  2012 resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[12:41] <demonoid_me> i have one big problem with samba on ubuntu 10.04
[12:42] <demonoid_me> when i restart ubuntu
[12:42] <auronandace> demonoid_me: 10.04 is now only supported on server
[12:42] <demonoid_me> and after restart i have to write service smbd restart
[12:42] <demonoid_me> for printing via windows xp
[12:42] <Kii> http://pastebin.com/ME5C88gd : there is the readme
[12:42] <mogaj> compdoc: sorry to ask again what content should be placed in resolv.conf?
[12:42] <Kii> i didn't build-dep, but i installed the proposed libs
[12:43] <auronandace> !resolvconf | mogaj
[12:43] <demonoid_me> auronandace:what you mean?
[12:43] <jhammond> #latitude
[12:43] <auronandace> demonoid_me: just to let you know, there is no more desktop support for 10.04
[12:43] <mogaj> Thank you
[12:44] <compdoc> mogaj, your system is suppose to generate resolv.conf automatically. But you can google what is should contain
[12:44] <mogaj> ok
[12:44] <demonoid_me> auronandace:axam 10x and no have solution for my problem?
[12:44] <Kii> brainwash: the thing is i'm going to hack the source code
[12:45] <adamk> Kii: If you intend to hack the source code, I'd hope you would know how to resolve compile time dependencies :-)
[12:45] <adamk> Kii: Check the config.log file that is generated to see exactly what failed.
[12:46] <auronandace> demonoid_me: if you are using 10.04 as a server then you can still get support here (but not for the desktop anymore) so you may want to consider upgrading to 12.04
[12:46] <demonoid_me> auronandace:for desktop pc 12.04 is too heavy
[12:46] <auronandace> !lubuntu | demonoid_me
[12:46] <Kii> I told you what failed, the autogen says it doesn't find openGL properly
  Check the log file to see exactly what file it was looking for and couldn't find.
[12:47] <demonoid_me> auronandace:ye i know lubuntu but also is too heavy
[12:47] <Kii> i'm asked to put the openGL librairies is the /usr/lib/ folder
[12:48] <Kii> ben i cant find these librairies
[12:48] <demonoid_me> auronandace:i have 50 pc  with ubuntu 10.04 for desktop and there have cpu 1.8 GHZ one core :)
[12:49] <auronandace> demonoid_me: that doesn't change ubuntu's support policy (10.04 for desktop is no longer supported)
[12:50] <demonoid_me> auronandace:but if i remember right ubuntu 12.04 also have problem with samba share for printers .....
[12:50] <compdoc> gotta reboot my firewall
[12:50] <Kii> http://pastebin.com/rSRhTLfP : there is the output
[12:51] <auronandace> demonoid_me: if you were using 12.04 then we could help you with that problem (but you are using 10.04 which is no longer supported)
[12:51] <demonoid_me> auronandace: ok what you thing is better upgrade dist to 12.04  or new clear install?
[12:52] <auronandace> demonoid_me: i've always done a clean install (less can go wrong)
[12:52] <Kii> any idea adamk ?
[12:52] <demonoid_me> auronandac:yes me too:)
[12:52] <demonoid_me> auronandac:10x for advices!!!!
[12:53] <demonoid_me> auronandac:i will instal 12.04 Lubuntu and if i have some problem with samba share will tell you ok :)?
[12:54] <Kii> hum...
[12:54] <Kii> it seems I don't have three things
[12:54] <Kii> -lXi -lXmu and -lopengl32
[12:55] <adamk_> Kii, Ubuntu puts run-time GL libraries in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/  or /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ (64-bit vs 32-bit).  Frankly, any project using autotools should know how to find the correct location and not assume they are in /usr/lib/
[12:55] <Kii> i agree ! thanks, i'll look in theses folders and keep you posted
[12:56] <mogaj> After system restart lost resov.conf file in /etc
[12:56] <abdel> hello, please i want to be able to monitor my employee's internet usage.....is there any software i can install in ubuntu 13.04...pls help
[12:57] <Kii> is it legal ? :/
[12:57] <demonoid_me> auronandace:what you think for lubuntu 13.04?
[12:57] <auronandace> demonoid_me: what about it?
[12:58] <abdel> hello, please i want to be able to monitor my employee's internet usage.....is there any software i can install in ubuntu 13.04...pls help
[12:58] <muelli> well. tcpdump gives you all the traffic created. problem solved. next.
[12:58] <mreq> ^^
[12:58] <abdel> hello, please i want to be able to monitor my employee's internet usage.....is there any software i can install in ubuntu 13.04...pls helppppp anybody
[12:58] <adamk_> abdel, Enough!
[12:58] <muelli> //ignore abdel
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !patience|abdel,
[12:59] <demonoid_me> auronandace:for desktop pc .Is it better than 12.04?
[12:59] <yofun> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[12:59] <yofun> whats this mean...
[12:59] <yofun> ?
[12:59] <auronandace> demonoid_me: for your situation i would guess it is
[12:59] <yofun> when i ssh into my server
[13:00] <muelli> yofun: it means that the connection was closed by the remote host.
[13:00] <schnuffle> abdel: first check the law, what you want can be done with a transparent proxy
[13:00] <yofun> ik but why?
[13:00] <demonoid_me> auronandace:ok 10x :)
[13:00] <muelli> yofun: dunno. Check your logs. On both ends. I for one use telnet to check whether I can actually get a proper TCP connection in first place.
[13:01] <abdel> so how do i do it with a transparency proxy @schnuffle
[13:01] <schnuffle> abdel: how is your network setup?
[13:02] <abdel> I have a iSP----juniper firewall-----ex2200 switch------then the stafff connects to the switch
[13:03] <demonoid_me> ,
[13:03] <schnuffle> abdel: then you should check if your juniper can do it for you, otherwise you would need a box running between the switch and your juniper device
[13:03] <jockey4her> i somehow turned off the taskbar. how do you turn it back on?
[13:03] <schnuffle> abdel: but that's far from ubuntu support so lets stop here
[13:03] <mogaj> resolv.conf not present : http://pastebin.com/W37t87wU
[13:03] <abdel> okidoki thanks
[13:05] <schnuffle> mogaj: how is your network configured manual,dhcp?
[13:05] <mogaj> Not able to open many websites in ubuntu 12.04 http://pastebin.com/6Wsk7eDN
[13:06] <mogaj> schnuffle : dhcp
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:07] <schnuffle> mogaj: and after getting your IP rhere's no DNS server set? that's strange
[13:07] <Pici> !resolv.conf | thismay be helpful
[13:07] <TheUsD> I was wondering if I was to install a 2nd nic card into my 12.04 server machine, could I have the samba be able to share drives with windows using one nic card and tell all other services (such as a the web server, email server, browsers and etc) to go to the Internet via the other nic card?   The first nic card would be on an internal network, the 2nd nic card (for all the other services) would be on a public IP
[13:07] <schnuffle> TheUsD: that is possible
[13:08] <mogaj> ActionParsnip : Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[13:08] <TheUsD> schnuffle: any good places for references you could refer me to?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: try:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[13:09] <demonoid_me> d
[13:09] <mogaj> ActionParsnip ; no output
[13:09] <schnuffle> TheUsD: for each service you'll need to adpot the bind/listen address, so you need to sort out each config of the services you run. for apache there is a listen directive, for ssh as well ........
[13:10] <schnuffle> TheUsD: normally most of the services per default will listen to all interfaces
[13:11] <schnuffle> TheUsD: so I guess the route to take is, add second card, moce samba to listen only to the private interface, adopt the other services if they should not listen on the internall interface
[13:11] <TheUsD> schnuffle: ok. so its not a matter of hocus pocus magic, but just going into each service and telling it which eth0 to us and here's its address.
[13:12] <schnuffle> TheUsD: yep
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: it won't, try the web
[13:12] <TheUsD> schnuffle: thanks.
[13:13] <mogaj> ActionParsnip : what?
[13:13] <schnuffle> TheUsD: for samba it would be: interfaces = eth* lo \ bind interfaces only = yes in smb.conf
[13:14] <schnuffle> mogaj: the command has no output but sets a DNS server so try to browse some sites
[13:15] <mogaj> ok
[13:15] <raven> does v4l2 only allow one instance on a system??
[13:15] <TheUsD> schnuffle: awesome, you just saved me a lot of time, lol.   Just out of theory, do you think all services and devices will stay default to the current eth* and all I would need to do is change smb.conf to lets say the new one would be called eth1?
[13:16] <schnuffle> TheUsD: yes, they would not stay on eth0 but listen to all interfaces by default
[13:17] <TheUsD> schnuffle: I'm trackin.
[13:17] <schnuffle> TheUsD: trackin?
[13:17] <TheUsD> following.
[13:17] <schnuffle> :)
[13:18] <mogaj> schnuffle : iam able to open websites finally but my system is not updating like linux firmaware is not downloading while trying to do apt-get upgarde there by total upadte is failing?
[13:18] <Kii> adamk_ is it better to modify the installation script or move the files in the directory asked ?
[13:18] <schnuffle> mogaj: have you started the update after setting the DNS or before?
[13:18] <Kii> or just link to them
[13:19] <adamk_> Kii, Moving system files around is generally not a good idea.
[13:19] <mogaj> schmuffle: after
[13:19] <mogaj> schnuffle ^
[13:19] <Kii> (yeah ^^, i'll juste link to hem then)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: open a web browser, try accessing web pages
[13:19] <schnuffle> mogaj: you can use tab completion e.g. schn<tab>
[13:19] <freddofrog> during installation I'm offered the choice of entering a mirror manually but I'm unsure of how much of the path the installer will figure out itself.... ie. how much of the following shoule I enter into the installer prompt: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise/main/
[13:20] <khamer> As of this morning, my laptop (running 13.04) won't detect my external monitor, it won't even show up in xrandr, and I'm running of ideas of things totry
[13:20] <adamk_> khamer, Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and the output of 'dmesg'.
[13:20] <mogaj> schnuffle: sorry :)
[13:21] <schnuffle> mogaj: no problem, i was just to ease your life
[13:21] <saju_m> I am trying to install python 2.5.2 in ubnuntu 12.04 ltf from tar ball.      But  i am getting error when running #make,    http://dpaste.com/1210892/
[13:22] <mogaj> schnuffle: This is the output for apt-get upgrade http://pastebin.com/UGYF9UCe
[13:23] <tithan> how to download youtube files?
[13:23] <somsip> saju_m: why?
[13:23] <samararicardo> good question...
[13:24] <schnuffle> mogaj: does ping glug.nith.ac.in gives you an IP for that domain name?
[13:24] <somsip> tithan: youtube-dl http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
[13:24] <jockey4her> i somehow turned off the taskbar. how do you turn it back on?
[13:24] <schnuffle> jockey4her: Unity,KDE ......?
[13:24] <jockey4her> ubuntu desktop
[13:26] <freddofrog> anoyone?
[13:26] <schnuffle> jockey4her: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/add-taskbar-for-unity-on-ubuntu.html
[13:26] <mogaj> schnuffle: ping output http://pastebin.com/pF4dzb2P
[13:26] <schnuffle> mogaj: okay so it find the server but the download is quite slow, how about using another mirror?
[13:27] <mogaj> schnuffle: ok
[13:27] <jockey4her> schnuffle: that is for some other taskbar, not the one that it comes with.
[13:27] <samgabbay> do you guys recommend that i install ubuntu on a windows 7 computer thats my school computer but that i get to keep but i wnt ubuntu but im not sure if i should just install it over wubi
[13:28] <compdoc> samgabbay, you should remove the hdd with windows 7 and put it away. then install a new hdd and install ubuntu on it
[13:29] <BluesKaj> samgabbay, virtualbox would be better , and wubi is no longer supported afaik
[13:29] <schnuffle> samgabbay: forget about wubi, use virtualization ( virtualbox) or setup a dual boot win/lin. I do both
[13:29] <saju_m> somsip: Please check it: http://dpaste.com/1210892/              aby idea?
[13:29] <samgabbay> @compdoc the isssue with that is that i cant cause its the school board :/ but i wanted to know if i should get it with wubi so then i could quickly uninstall
[13:29] <baverhey> hello all, i m in desperate need of assitance after a 4 day struggle to install ubuntu server on a dell server poweredge R720.
[13:29] <baverhey> The situation: install finishes sucessfully as i can see. reboot required and there is the problem. No boot device found!
[13:29] <baverhey> tried formating dis and reinstall automaticly (new partitions by ubunu itself)
[13:29] <baverhey> tried partitions with LVM
[13:29] <baverhey> tried UEFI boot, regula boot
[13:29] <FloodBot1> baverhey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <baverhey> tried reinstall of grub 2
[13:29] <wN> lvm++
[13:29] <samgabbay> @blue the thing is its that the computer im using is fully certified soo
[13:30] <somsip> saju_m: why are you installing pythong 2.5 from a tarball? To what end?
[13:30] <samgabbay> beause i need it to be super easy to uninstall
[13:30] <tithan> which software to use to download video:somsip?
[13:31] <somsip> tithan: I answered your question already
[13:31] <schnuffle> samgabbay: from my point of view both is easy to uninstall
[13:31] <samgabbay> and does it matter if wubi is unsupported because from 12.10 i will update it to 13.04
[13:31] <samgabbay> i guess il just test and try
[13:31] <samgabbay> because i dont think i have a uefi
[13:31] <BluesKaj> you can still run virtual box with ubunru as the guest OS , it's not going to change anything in the windows OS
[13:31] <baverhey> Boot issues on fresh install problem with past bin link http://paste.ubuntu.com/5732604/
[13:31] <samgabbay> @blues but i dont get it as fast asif i install on wubi :/
[13:32] <samgabbay> cause look http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/
[13:32] <khamer> adamk_, I can, however I'm connecting this monitor after boot
[13:32] <mogaj> Thank you all
[13:32] <saju_m> somsip:  That is the only way, right ?.     I need python 2.5 in ubuntu 12.04.
[13:32] <adamk_> khamer, OK, so pastebin those things after you connect the monitor.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> well, samgabbay that's your decision , if it's against the rules then there's no point going any further
[13:33] <BluesKaj> samgabbay,^
[13:33] <somsip> saju_m: You can use this http://is.gd/0USVvA BUT...
[13:33] <somsip> !ppa | saju_m
[13:33] <jockey4her> I used the boot to live CD, and somehow a key combination made the taksbar dissapear.  I need to get it back. How?
[13:33] <saju_m> somsip:  I have a python project developed using python 2.5. I want to deploy it on ubuntu 12.04
[13:33] <somsip> saju_m: I think you've lagged with my last response
[13:34] <Pici> somsip: Why can't you use python2.7?
[13:34] <lessent> hi all, i cant watch any video on youtube. but i can watch other platform for ex: "vimeo". when i disable my plugin, and i cant watch with html5 also. but when i changed my gateway with vpn, i can watch on youtube.. can you help me? how can i watch with my own connection??
[13:34] <schnuffle> saju_m: so why not try it with the installed python version
[13:34] <somsip> Pici: ^^ saju_m
[13:34] <samgabbay> @blue ijsut really want ubuntu but i just want to have it easy to uninstall
[13:34] <tithan> somsip: nothing there! may give the name of software from ubuntu
[13:34] <str> Hi everyone! I'm trying to use the default IM client "empathy", I added my gtalk account, but i get random errors, it says "google talk account requires authorisation"  but I already did that. And it's very confusing as it happens 50% of the time
[13:34] <somsip> tithan: youtube-dl http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
[13:34] <Pici> somsip: er, right. ;)
[13:35] <saju_m> somsip:  that will nor work with default python 2.7
[13:35] <somsip> saju_m: was that intended for Pici? I've given you a way to install 2.5 alongside the current version. It will probably work fine, but it is unsupported so it is at your own risk. Easier than compiling from a tarball though IMHO
[13:36] <khamer> adamk_: doing a tail -F of /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log don't show any output at all when I connect the monitor... never the less http://pastebin.com/CKXiKFgk http://pastebin.com/bHX5zExF
[13:36] <samgabbay> do you think if i install ubuntu on a vbox it would run as good as if i installed it with wubi on this pc http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/
[13:36] <schnuffle> saju_m: then you should adopt it to run with python 2.7, shouldn't be that hard
[13:36] <TKing> I have used HP for Ubuntu and I do not think its friendly to Ubuntu due to the ATI graphics. Please anyone know which Laptops works well with Ubuntu apart from System76 as I want to run windows and Ubuntu (Dual boot)
[13:36] <tithan> somsip:thanks! and  where e
[13:36] <adamk_> khamer, Presumably this used to work?
[13:36] <saju_m> How to get this PPA for python 2.5.2
[13:36] <samgabbay> ?
[13:37] <somsip> tithan: youtube-dl http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ 3rd time
[13:37] <somsip> saju_m: You can use this http://is.gd/0USVvA BUT...
[13:37] <green_geeky_dude> <-has found Samsung laptops to be very good with ubuntu
[13:37] <saju_m> somsip:How to get this PPA for python 2.5.2
[13:37] <schnuffle> TKing: go with a intel baes and you should be quite save
[13:37] <tithan> somsip:whre are u?
[13:37] <samgabbay> @tking on my home computer i have ati and no it wont work with ati you will be stuck with what is given
[13:37] <samgabbay> but it depends on your pc
[13:37] <somsip> tithan: it makes no difference. I have given you a link 3 times. Enough
[13:37] <khamer> adamk_, worked yesterday - I think I was running a newer kernel yesterday, but that was causing problems, so I booted with an older kernel
[13:37] <saju_m> somsip: ok
[13:38] <adamk_> khamer, So check the newer kernel again.  Could very well be a bug.
[13:38] <tithan> thanks
[13:39] <khamer> Hm, I will give it a go, but the newer kernel seemed significantly more suspect, but I suppose since the logs aren't showing anything that's not a terrible idea, biab
[13:39] <BluesKaj> samgabbay, @ isn't required to highlight nicks on irc , just start typing the nick and use the tab to complete it
[13:40] <samgabbay> thanks man
[13:40] <samgabbay> @blues but if i run it on vm will it run as fast on this pc http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/
[13:41] <samgabbay> BluesKaj: oops
[13:41] <schnuffle> samgabbay: No virtualization always has some performance effects, but if you want to choose between wubi and virtualbox, then use virtualbox
[13:42] <BluesKaj> samgabbay, VB is more relaible and more seamless than wubi when switching between OSs
[13:42] <samgabbay> schnuffle: mhmmmmmmm what if i play games on vbox with this pc would it run them well? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/
[13:42] <Guest10465> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> that's a major advantage
[13:42] <Guest10465> how to fix that?
[13:43] <adamk_> Guest10465, It told you what to do.
[13:43] <Guest10465> adamk
[13:43] <Guest10465> again?
[13:43] <khindenburg> what's the best way to determine when I did a 'safe-upgrade' that broke X/terminal logins? only ssh works
[13:43] <adamk_> Guest10465,  "Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[13:43] <BluesKaj> gues open a terminal , sudo nvidia-xconfig  , then reboot
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Guest10465,^
[13:43] <samgabbay> BluesKaj: what\
[13:43] <Guest10465> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[13:44] <samgabbay> BluesKaj: whats a major advantege? this pc with vbox? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/
[13:44] <schnuffle> samgabbay: graphic intensive software is not a good use case for virtualization. Lets see my setup: Dual boot win7/linux and under linux I have virtmanager running with some win/linux VMs
[13:44] <Guest10465> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found ........
[13:44] <samgabbay> schnuffle: mhmmmmm im just trying to find an easy way to run ubuntu on my school computer
[13:45] <schnuffle> samgabbay: you must make the choice between speed and easy uninstall.  uninstall linux from a dual boot system is not so hard
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Guest10465, then install nvidia-current driver , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then run the xconfig command
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Guest10465, the reboot
[13:45] <samgabbay> schnuffle: would it leave a mark?
 E: Package 'nvidia-current' has no installation candidate
[13:46] <samgabbay> and will it damage the windows partition in any way?
[13:46] <Guest10465> E: Package 'nvidia-current' has no installation candidate ?
[13:46] <schnuffle> samgabbay: you would need to change the size of the win partition to make space for linux, which could be seen as altering the system
[13:46] <baverhey> Anyone knows any resons why a pc would not boo tto a fresly installed ununtu? new partitions and filesystem, so also a new grub. centos did work priviously
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Guest10465, make sure you software sources repositories are all enabled
[13:46] <Guest10465> how to make sure of that?
[13:47] <TKing> I have used HP for Ubuntu and I do not think its friendly to Ubuntu due to the ATI graphics. Please anyone know which Laptops works well with Ubuntu apart from System76 as I want to run windows and Ubuntu (Dual boot)
[13:47] <tripiz> hi guys
[13:47] <anonymousjin> m
[13:47] <schnuffle> TKing: just choose a Laptop with intel graphics and you should be fine
[13:48] <Guest10465> BluesKaj how to make sure for?
[13:48] <tripiz> i just unboxed my new dell laptop which came with ubuntu 12.04 pre-installed . My problem is that when i press the super key for 2 seconds, no shortcut options apear
[13:48] <anonymousjin> hum.....
[13:48] <anonymousjin> i'm hacker
[13:48] <samgabbay> schnuffle: im trying to find a way to install it without damaging it or anything cause the pc is not really mine
[13:48] <tripiz> also shortcuts like super + w and super + s not working
[13:48] <tripiz> any ideas?
[13:48] <anonymousjin> hello
[13:49] <adamk_> TKing, Avoid any laptop with optimus or hybrid graphics.
[13:49] <schnuffle> samgabbay: if you want to be sure: take a USB drive and use clonzilla to make a backup of the HDD. Then you can set it back to the default state in case you run into problems
[13:50] <adamk_> TKing, Having an ATI GPU, however, does not necessarily mean it's not friendly.
 all enabled brb reboot
[13:50] <samgabbay> schnuffle:  how do i use clonzilla
[13:50] <schnuffle> tripiz: shouldn't it be ctrl+w ........
[13:50] <tithan> where i can get the pdf conserning with ipv6 subnetting
[13:51] <schnuffle> samgabbay: create a live cd or better a USB key, boot from it, it's quite intuitive
[13:52] <samgabbay> schnuffle: can i do it without any usbs or cds?
[13:52] <anonymousjin> jim...\
[13:52] <anonymousjin> jum...
[13:52] <anonymousjin> \hum...
[13:52] <anonymousjin> ok
[13:52] <FloodBot1> anonymousjin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <anonymousjin> cds ok
[13:52] <schnuffle> samgabbay: No, not if you want to be sure to be able to return the Laptop in its initial state.
[13:53] <samgabbay> :/
[13:53] <anonymousjin> :)
[13:53] <anonymousjin> ")
[13:53] <anonymousjin> korean user plz~
[13:54] <schnuffle> samgabbay: but to install ubuntu you need a boot medium anyway so why not ctreate one with ubuntu and clonezilla on it
[13:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !ko | anonymousjin
[13:55] <samgabbay> schnuffle: what do youj mean
[13:56] <anonymousjin> hi
[13:56] <NoTech> E: Package 'nvidia-current' has no installation candidate anyone?
[13:56] <schnuffle> samgabbay:  you have a win laptop, you want to install liunx on it -> you need a install medium with ubuntu on it. So you can use a CD/DVD or you can use a USB stick. I would go with the stick use yumi ( windows tool ) to create the stick
[13:56] <anonymousjin> hum
[13:57] <khamer> adamk_, actually, I had to go back several kernels before it would work, now on 3.5.0-15 instead of 3.7.x or 3.8.x
[13:57] <samgabbay> schnuffle: il figure it out later im just trying to see if wubi would work
[13:57] <anonymousjin> 3.8
[13:57] <schnuffle> samgabbay: wubi should work but seems to cause a lot of problems with updating
[13:57] <khamer> anonymousjin: if that was me, I tried a 3.7.x kernel as well with no luck
[13:58] <AndEilert> Hello people    :)   I got some issues updating my ubuntu here, i got this lovely orange triangle top right, and it says " The update information is outdated, this could be caused by network issues or by a repository no longer available"
[13:58] <AndEilert> and im not able to fix it:(
[13:58] <samgabbay> schnuffle: alright il see and if it does il tell you guys
[13:58] <NoTech> who can help me out about Nvidia Driver?
[13:58] <anonymousjin> no spck eng
[13:58] <adamk_> khamer, All I can really do is suggest filing a bug report.
[13:58] <anonymousjin> i'm korean hacker user
[13:58] <samgabbay> schnuffle: now my issue is is that it wont detect my downloaded 12.10 iso
[13:58] <schnuffle> AndEilert: open a terminal, type: "aptitude update" and paste the output to pastebin
[13:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !hack
[13:59] <anonymousjin> !hack
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> !hacking
[13:59] <schnuffle> samgabbay: who is it?
 can you help me?
[13:59] <anonymousjin> !hacking
[13:59] <AndEilert> schnuffle: is it hte same as apt-get update ?
[13:59] <samgabbay> schnuffle: i manually downloaded ubuntu places wubi and ubuntu on teh same folder and it wont detect the iso and install from it
[13:59] <schnuffle> AndEilert: yes
[14:00] <schnuffle> samgabbay: let me check the wubi install docs
[14:00] <khamer> adamk_: alright, well, thanks anyway, I think I'll try to search a little more first to see if I can't find anything existing now that we've narrowed it down to a kernel problem
[14:00] <samgabbay> alright thanks
[14:00] <gregL> NoTech, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[14:00] <usr13> AndEilert: best to use apt-get
[14:00] <anonymousjin> apt-get down~
[14:00] <anonymousjin> ok?
[14:00] <gregL> NoTech  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:00] <NoTech> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.

[14:01] <AndEilert> schnuffle: http://pastebin.com/nMqtBjEd
[14:01] <BluesKaj> NoTech,  run , sudo apt-get -update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:01] <NoTech> i did
[14:01] <Saiki> question. is there a way to wget everything in a dirrectory with only one command?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> NoTech, did you the upgrade command too ?
[14:02] <vitimiti> hi o/
 doing this again
[14:02] <anonymousjin> hi
[14:02] <schnuffle> samgabbay: you need to mount the ISO, there's http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/ to mount or virtualclone ......
[14:02] <anonymousjin> vit korea?
[14:03] <samgabbay> schnuffle: then wubi will install from it?\
[14:03] <schnuffle> samgabbay: yes but in antoher way, when you have mounted the iso open a explorer go to it and you will see the wubi binary on it as well, execute it from there and it should install
[14:04] <samgabbay> schnuffle: i did and it stull wants to download something\
[14:04] <BluesKaj> samgabbay, you'll regeret choosing wubi
[14:04] <samgabbay> BluesKaj: whyt
[14:04] <BluesKaj> it's too restrictive
[14:04] <schnuffle> AndEilert: there's a PPA for moonlight that doesn't exists
[14:05] <samgabbay> BluesKaj: in what way?
[14:05] <schnuffle> AndEilert: the pinta PPA doesn't exists for raring
[14:06] <schnuffle> AndEilert samgabbay: I'm off for a cigarette, will be back soon
[14:06] <samgabbay> schnuffle: kk
[14:06] <khamer> adamk_, still there? Want to know the weirdest part?
[14:06] <AndEilert> schnuffle: what happends if i, ermove this from the
[14:06] <AndEilert> list?
[14:06] <AndEilert> oh.. yesokay
[14:06] <adamk_> khamer, Yes, please :-)
[14:06] <AndEilert> :D
[14:06] <ichat> acording to news  moonlight is dead and so is silverlight even MS stoped developing it...
[14:07] <khamer> adamk_, after rebooting again (for the fifth or sixth time, but first time after getting it working with the 3.5 kernel) it now works with the 3.8 kernel immediately on boot, so there must be some kind of state somewhere
[14:07] <samgabbay> BluesKaj: in what way?
[14:07] <adamk_> khamer, Ahhh, that could be...  The display controller may be getting out-of-whack.
[14:08] <khamer> like, the hardware itself?
[14:09] <adamk_> khamer, Sounds like it, yes.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> sam you seem determined to use wubi , so i won't waste my time trying to change your decision ,. you'll understand after a few days
[14:09] <eodkfe> de\
[14:10] <eodkfe> 일게이있냐?
[14:10] <khamer> adamk_: that's strange
[14:10] <eodkfe> 지옥에있는 일게이나와라
[14:11] <aladdin> eodkfe, english plz :)
[14:11] <eodkfe> sorry
[14:13] <aladdin> what's is nautilus?
[14:13] <NoTech> file explorer
[14:13] <usr13> BluesKaj: I think one problem people are up against is that some systems now-days come with Win8 pre-loaded and there are already 4 primary partitions.  It is not [really] a good reason to use wubi but a deterrant to repartitioning and doing a real Linux install. I dono if that is the case with sam but....
[14:13] <NoTech> BluesKaj its upgrading
[14:13] <DJones> aladdin: Its the default file explorer in Ubuntu
[14:13] <aladdin> DJones, thanks
[14:14] <DJones> aladdin: On 13.04's unity bar, it shows up as 'Files'
[14:14] <zephyr28> So, I'm trying to install Windows 7 onto the same drive (separate partition) as my /home/ partition but setup gives an error about not being able to create a system partition.  Does anyone know a way around this?
[14:14] <Kii> admak, i fixed my problem
[14:14] <Saiki> question. is there a way to wget everything in a dirrectory with only one command?
[14:14] <usr13> BluesKaj: Having said the above, I agree with you and anyone else that thinks that wubi leaves a lot to be desired and that nothing can beat a real install.
[14:15] <Kii> intersted in the solution ? i juste had to apt-get install xorg-dev
[14:15] <jnhghy> zephyr28: wouldn't a vm with win7 help you?
[14:15] <KLDude> anyone know what is the best version of unbent to install on a G5 powermac?
[14:16] <zephyr28> jnhghy, not sure how that would help.  I need to install Win7 natively.  Where you going with that?
[14:16] <zykotick9> usr13: BluesKaj someone mentioned the next ubuntu wouldn't have wubi anymore.  \o/
[14:16] <BluesKaj> usr13, he seems to have work restrictions , that's why I recommended VB vs wubi ... easier to switch OSs quickly
[14:17] <SuperLag> Any packages you guys would recommend for screen recording?
[14:17] <usr13> BluesKaj:  zykotick9   VB is a much better alternative.  I agree totally.
[14:17] <SuperLag> I'd like to record a video of actions on the screen, so I can send it in to customer support for an app that's crashing. *sigh*
[14:17] <ehmatthes> Is anyone running ubuntu on a t430s? Considering one, but there's no option for intel graphics card, just the nvidia optimus nvs 5200m. Am I asking for headaches with the optimus card? Should I just go for the bulkier T430?
[14:18] <SuperLag> (third party app)
[14:18] <ehmatthes> Lenovo T430S
[14:18] <DJones> !screencast | SuperLag This may help,
[14:18] <SuperLag> DJones: thank you
[14:18] <funkt> Hi there I am trying to increase the preview thumbnails when selecting for example a picture to upload would anyone know how I can increase the size
[14:18] <BluesKaj> usr13, zykotick9 , yes I read that wubi is about to be dropped or already is
[14:18] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: I'm running it on a W530. *LOVE IT*
[14:18] <BluesKaj> supportwise that is
[14:18] <usr13> BluesKaj:  zykotick9   Only thing is, it would be upside down in my opinion.  I would much rather have the MS OS in the VB.   :)
[14:18] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: W530 with nvs 5200? Are you using bumblebee?
[14:19] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: no, the W530 has a Quadro
[14:19] <schnuffle> back again
[14:19] <str> Hi everyone! I'm trying to use the default IM client "empathy", I added my gtalk account, but i get random errors, it says "google talk account requires authorisation"  but I already did that. And it's very confusing as it happens 50% of the time. I don't know where else to ask
[14:19] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Is that an optimus card? Do you run bumblebee?
[14:19] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: and no bumblebee, because EFI options on this model let you select the Nvidia and fix it to that option
[14:19] <johnjohn101> str, does it work in pidgin?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> usr13, agreeed, but if the workplace requires W7 or 8 , then VB is the only choice , I think
[14:20] <usr13> BluesKaj: agreed
[14:20] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: I just set it to "Discrete" for the Nvidia, and use the proprietary driver
[14:20] <str> johnjohn101,  yes, kind of.. it throws another not related error with the windows live account
[14:20] <Kii> thank you anyway, byebye
[14:20] <schnuffle> AndEilert: then you should be able to load the repo updates as normal
[14:21] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Is the choice discrete, or integrated? Is the integrated another nvidia, or is it intel?
[14:21] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: Integrated is Intel.
[14:21] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: I'm not a graphics-intensive person, so I appreciate you sharing your experience.
[14:21] <FourFire> Hello
[14:21] <AndEilert> schnuffle: well alright, what does theee moonlight thingy do?
[14:21] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: give me a minute, I'll reboot... there are 3 choices. One for just Intel (Integrated), one for just Nvidia (Discrete), and one to switch... don't remember its name.
[14:22] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: I assume if there was any real issue with ubuntu on a particular thinkpad, I'd hear about it all over the internet?
[14:22] <FourFire> can anyone tell me how the ubuntu Task manager works, in comparison to the windows 7 one?
[14:22] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: if you'll wait here, I'll reboot, go look, and come back
[14:22] <schnuffle> AndEilert: its the pinta ppa  moonlight-team/pinta
[14:22] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Thanks, I'll stick around.
[14:22] <khindenburg> what's the best way to determine when I did a 'safe-upgrade' that broke X/terminal logins? only ssh works
[14:22] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: Okay. brb.
[14:22] <AndEilert> OH
[14:22] <AndEilert> yes okay
[14:22] <AndEilert> thanks schnuffle !:D
[14:23] <schnuffle> AndEilert: it could be that you run into problems if the pinta installed from the PPA is newer then the pinta from the raring repos
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: in what sense?
[14:24] <FourFire> How do they function differently?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: both allow you to manage tasks and if ran using gksudo you may be able to set nice values
[14:24] <FourFire> Why does windows Task Manager take up 25% of my CPU time and Ubuntu's doesn't?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: you'd have to ask windows guys
[14:25] <FourFire> ah, ok, any channels like that on this network?
[14:25] <DJones> FourFire: ##windows
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: ##windows
[14:25] <FourFire> ty
[14:26] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: the third option is "NVIDIA Optimus"
[14:26] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: but I just stick to using the Nvidia.
[14:26] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: so I set it to Discrete.
[14:27] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: this eliminates the need for bumblebee
[14:27] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: That sounds right. I assume if there were consistent issues with ubuntu on a particular thinkpad, I'd read about it after a little research?
[14:27] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: that said... I heard some talk that newer versions of the Nvidia driver support Optimus natively, and it make bumblebee unnecessary
[14:28] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: but since I never tried the Optimus option, I can't say...
[14:28] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Do you lose battery life with dedicated, or is it just the switching that drains battery life?
[14:28] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: I assume there is some hit to battery life. I don't know how much.
[14:29] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Okay, thank you. This has been really helpful. Can't wait to have my first ThinkPad!
[14:29] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: and people have reported issues with even this model of ThinkPad, but it's been earlier versions of Ubuntu.
[14:29] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: Personally, I recommend the W530. Yes, it's bigger. Yes, it costs more. But I've got this thing really loaded up.
[14:29] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: 32GB of RAM. multiple SSDs
[14:29] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: I'm fine to stay on LTS versions, and not upgrade immediately. I do webdev work mostly, and don't need latest and greatest.
[14:30] <SuperLag> This configuration cost me about $1600, as I already had the SSDs.
[14:30] <funkt> Hi there I am trying to increase the preview thumbnails when selecting for example a picture to upload would anyone know how I can increase the size
[14:30] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Holy heck, I'm going to get 8GB ram with one SSD and I'll be a happy camper. Upgrade from a 4GB Dell 32-bit with HDD.
[14:31] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: I'm doing multiple VMs on here though, often simultaneously
[14:31] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: On a budget, can't afford to end up with something that doesn't play nice with ubuntu. In southeast Alaska, can't really visit a store and try different machines out.
 AFK?
[14:31] <NoTech> BluseKaj ?
[14:32] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: well, I can give a ringing endorsement to this W530.
[14:32] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: Thanks again, going to log off and order my T430s!
[14:32] <SuperLag> The fingerprint reader is the only thing I'm going to need to figure out.
[14:32] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: hold on
[14:33] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: still here
[14:33] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: there's a website you should check out... I *think* it's linlap.com
[14:34] <nikolam> uh!. where I should put memmap= kernel option, so that every kernel / GRUB2 Ubuntu menu entry, will have that parameters? Somewhere in /etc/grub.d/10_linux ? and rerun update-grub?
[14:34] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: yeah, that's the one
[14:34] <BluesKaj> NoTech, now run sudo nvidia-xconfig . then reboot
[14:34] <NoTech> done
[14:34] <NoTech> brb
[14:35] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: keep in mind, some of that info may refer to older versions of $DISTRO. But it's a good reference point.
[14:35] <ehmatthes> SuperLag: thanks, that confirms what I'm thinking
[14:35] <kutulal> hello everyone!
[14:35] <SuperLag> ehmatthes: going to send you a pm
[14:36] <kutulal> I want to know what is the benefit/necessity of upgrading to a new kernel?
[14:36] <SuperLag> kutulal: usually new features and bug fixes, new hardware support
[14:36] <schnuffle> kutulal: normally drivers that don't come with a old release, sometimes speed improvements
[14:37] <kutulal> Thanks!
[14:37] <SuperLag> kutulal: it's not a trivial thing to upgrade the kernel in Ubuntu, though
[14:37] <SuperLag> as it includes a lot of patches