[12:56] <joaopinto> Dr_Willis, according to google , NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS returns  "newline-delimited paths", you are probably getting a newline causing the extra space
[12:56] <bazhang> its a meta-package
[12:56] <zege> ganesh_: ok, restart, and now your modem should be detected ;)
[12:56] <ganesh_> zege....trying my luck again :)
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> joaopinto:  yea. but my echo commands seem to be trimming that out.
[12:56] <karaba> Video is working but there is no sound from VLC. I use Ubuntu 10.04 updated. There is no any problem on my system. VLC was working great but now it is not working. Latest time i used it 1 hour before. But now is not working. Can someone help me please ?
[12:56] <zege> Damien: open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install gnee
[12:56] <bazhang> Damien, there is no exe
[12:56] <joaopinto> Dr_Willis, echo does not print newlines for variables
[12:57] <joaopinto> even if they are present
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> joaopinto:   thats the little 'bashism' that i was proberly overlooking then
[12:57] <Gryllida> Sorry, the "administrator" is called "root", and the "limited user" is what? Am I asking in the right place?
[12:57] <theadmin> bazhang: There is a binary file for any program, not exe but still
[12:57] <AceKing> I have an epson workforce 600 printer. I am connected to it WiFi. It prints fine but when I go to scan the printer starts to blink and the Simple Scan says: Unable to connect to scanner. If I reset the printer and look in Simple Scan preferences, it shows in Scan Source: Epson PID 0855
[12:57] <theadmin> Gryllida: Limited user is any other user :D
[12:57] <joaopinto> echo is a single line command :)
[12:57] <Gryllida> theadmin, does it have some name for it? how is it called? "normal"?
[12:58] <theadmin> Gryllida: user.
[12:58] <joaopinto> Dr_Willis, anyway python would be much easier :P
[12:58] <llutz> Gryllida: there is no "limited user". all non-roots are just users
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> im better at perl then i am python.
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Better at REXX then perl. :)
[12:58] <theadmin> llutz: Well, there ARE sudoers as well, which are kinda above users.
[12:59] <wildbat> is there any tools to fix brken video file ? avi and rmvb?
[12:59] <red2kic> Then there are a king. That's me. :)
[12:59] <llutz> theadmin: still just users
[12:59] <theadmin> llutz: Well, true. Root is also a user, as a matter of fact, just a o_Oish one
[12:59] <onetinsoldier> maybe he's looking for the 'admin' group?
[12:59] <theadmin> llutz: All users below 1000 are o_O
[12:59] <red2kic> wildbat: If you got the broken video file from torrent, try re-checking/re-verify to ensure you got 100%
[12:59] <ice_age> any one with experience in running usb wireless card in ubuntu?
[12:59] <roberto_> how can I see a list of what packages synaptic installed yesterday?
[13:00] <wildbat> red2kic,  nope not torrent :<
[13:00] <chrisY2K10a> hi guys, please could someone help with a major problem when i upgraded to 10.0,  i keep getting the error 'general error mounting filesystems'
[13:00] <karaba> Video is working but there is no sound from VLC. I use Ubuntu 10.04 updated. There is no any problem on my system. VLC was working great but now it is not working. Latest time i used it 1 hour before. But now is not working. Can someone help me please ?
[13:00] <joaopinto> roberto_, check /var/log/dpkg.log
[13:00] <Gryllida> llutz, theadmin, so these are "root users" and "users"? or "roots" and "users"? I think they're all "users", any more specific name for non-roots there, no?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> thanks for the help joaopinto  seems that was comming from the NAUTILUS_SCRIPT stuff.. of course if i had used a loop so my script would work on more then 1 file..  i wouldent of ever noticed the issue i think
[13:01] <roberto_> joaopinto: obrigado :)
[13:01] <joaopinto> roberto_, ;)
[13:01] <llutz> Gryllida: no
[13:01] <alien2601> Hello, does anyone know how to extend the top panel of ubuntu when on dual screen? (so that its on both screens?
[13:01] <red2kic> alien2601: Make new panel. Drag it to another monitor.
[13:02] <Guest23265> zege:    :( still in a dilemma
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> alien2601:  with my nVidia cards it exteneds across both IF i have 'twinview' disabled and just use xinerams
[13:02] <Gryllida> llutz, sort of logical :)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> alien2601:  why not just make a 2nd panel on the top of the 2nd monitor?
[13:02] <chrisY2K10a> any suggestions?
[13:02] <Guest23265> zege: how do i change my name first..my name keeps on changing
[13:03] <karaba> Video is working but there is no sound from VLC. I use Ubuntu 10.04 updated. There is no any problem on my system. VLC was working great but now it is not working. Latest time i used it 1 hour before. But now is not working. Can someone help me please ?
[13:03] <AceKing> I just started my laptop and I can't connect to the internet. It says "Network Disabled" The switch is on in the front of the laptop. How do I fix this?
[13:03] <red2kic> Guest23265: /nick ganeshtu
[13:03] <DonsScott> Karba: did you try rebooting ?
[13:03] <alien2601> i can create a second panel but i cant seem to drag it to the second screen, even if i go into properties i can choose the location but only on the main screen
[13:03] <mknarr> karaba, uninstall then reinstall
[13:03] <abysim> where do i start with understanding unix systems lol
[13:03] <zege> Guest23265: /nick NEWNAME
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> alien2601:  alt-click on the panel. drag it..
[13:04] <karaba> mknarr DonsScott: yes i try them ofcorse :(
[13:04] <red2kic> !manual | abysim
[13:04] <red2kic> abysim: When you start using it everyday, you'll be pro in no time.
[13:04] <onetinsoldier> abysim: where do you want to start? do you know how to use the command line fairly good yet?
[13:04] <Guest23265> zege: m still unable to connect
[13:04] <alien2601> Dr_Willis: Perfect !! thanks for your help :D
[13:05] <sasha_> !chat
[13:05] <sasha_> salve
[13:05] <abysim> ye i know a little of terminalcommands and installing ... but i dont think thats really understanding ubuntu or another linux distro
[13:05] <zege> Guest23265: sry, but now i don't know what to do next ... A:(
[13:05] <red2kic> What is the correct command to see files from yesterday? date -1 ?
[13:06] <mknarr> karaba, try rebooting your computer it is possible something is gliching
[13:06] <onetinsoldier> abysim: well, i was going to suggest tutorials at... http://linuxcommand.org/
[13:06] <zege> Guest23265: wait do lsusb in a terminal again and paste the output, maybe usbmodeswitch did't owrk properly
[13:06] <karaba> mknarr: i wrote. i did it. but it is not working.
[13:06] <Guest23265> zege k
[13:06] <viliny__> karaba: whats up?
[13:06] <llutz> red2kic: find .... -mtime +1
[13:06] <karaba> viliny__ vlc = no sound
[13:07] <viliny__> ah ok... thought you had a pidgin problem - nvm :)
[13:07] <Aufwind> I have a smartcard reader in use. There are some certificates on it. Is there a possibility to acces the reader per command line?
[13:07] <Appl6> I'm trying to debug a Pidgin crash.  I start it with "gdb pidgin", but when Pidgin crashes all of X does, too, and I can't access the gdb terminal.  Is there another way of accessing gdb, or another way to do this?
[13:07] <karaba> viliny__:  no plugin installed. and i did not do anything as configuration on vlc ...
[13:08] <Guest23265> zege: lsusb output ->http://paste.ubuntu.com/432197/
[13:08] <red2kic> llutz: Interesting. It shows lot of .thumbnails/1265297846003.jpg on ~/Desktop/
[13:08] <zege> Guest23265: ok
[13:09] <abysim> well i will take a look , and also i learning perl at the moment and i understand the basics but how do i get my programming skills up so i can interfere with linux ...
[13:09] <AceKing> I just started my Toshiba laptop and I can't connect to the internet. It says "Network Disabled" The switch is on in the front of the laptop. Everything was working fine before. How do I fix this?
[13:09] <viliny__> karaba: have you tried tinkering in /Settings -> Preferences -> Audio -> Output modules ->OSS / ALSA
[13:09] <manibuntu> hi here
[13:10] <zege> Guest23265: ok, just like i guessed, usbmodeswitch did't switch your stick into modem operation. Maybe someone else can help u, i have to go now (@work). I online later again ca. 1600 GMT
[13:11] <bart_> join #itops
[13:11] <manibuntu> i need help to understand why my 'hwmon' folder change very often and how to fix it please
[13:11] <s3r3n1t7> Appl6, tried setting the display variable on one of your other VTY's and calling gdb from there?
[13:11] <llutz> abysim: take some perl-scripts and try to reproduce what it does, how it works and how you would have done it
[13:11] <Appl6> s3r3n1t7: OK, how do I do that?
[13:11] <Appl6> s3r3n1t7: Or is it Google time.
[13:11] <StPiere> i need to start skype every time with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype in terminal to get webcam in skype to work.how can i set this automaticaly to work when i start skype under Applications -> Internet -> Skype ?
[13:11] <karaba> viliny__: i try all of them. they are not working...
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> StPiere:  make a script that does it. and add an icon to launch that script instead. is one way
[13:12] <viliny__> karaba: what is the files you are playing?
[13:12] <psypher246> hi all, please could i have some assistance with ssh keys, i just need a 2nd opinion as i have tried everything over and over and my keys just won't work anymore. i've had to reinstall a production server due to complete catastrophic failure when upgrading from karmic to lucid.
[13:12] <karaba> viliny__:  everythink even mp3
[13:12] <viliny__> ok so nothing works
[13:12] <abysim> ye the only site where i find good scripts is cpan , you know other ?
[13:12] <s3r3n1t7> Appl6, mostly google time, but I'm thinking along the lines of hitting ctrl alt f2, logging in, setting display var, calling gdb pidgin, switching back to your visual screen (f7), crashing it , then switching back to f2 for your gdb.
[13:12] <viliny__> karaba: audio is otherwise fine? Have you rebooted? sorry to go into basic stuff :)
[13:12] <StPiere> thanks DR_WIllis
[13:13] <larsemil> how do i put mini.iso onto a usbstick? any hints?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> StPiere:  its amazing the # of items in the menus that are actually scripts that do some stuff then call the actual binary that way
[13:13] <karaba> viliny__:  yes i have re-open my computer many times...
[13:13] <llutz> abysim: perldoc.org
[13:13] <Appl6> s3r3n1t7: Sounds good.  Thanks.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> larsemil:  try unetbootin . but it might not work
[13:13] <karaba> viliny__: i will format ubuntu now...
[13:13] <sipior> psypher246: the upgrade broke your production server, and not your test server? what'
[13:13] <sipior> s
[13:13] <karaba> viliny__:  thank you...
[13:13] <sipior> psypher246: what's the problem with your ssh keys?
[13:13] <larsemil> Dr_Willis: dont think it does.
[13:13] <viliny__> karaba: owww... well thats pretty dramatic but i hope you get it working :/
[13:14] <karaba> viliny__:  i wish too :) thnak you agaşn...
[13:14] <larsemil> Dr_Willis: but will give it one more try
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> larsemil:  the 'server' cd also does not work properl with unetbootin, or the usb-disk-creator tool. PERHAPS you could install grub2 to a usb stick and make grub2 boot the iso file. but that might not work either
[13:14] <psypher246> sipior: client cannot log into server after copying pub key and catting to authorized keys
[13:14] <psypher246> sipior: yet errors don't show why
[13:14] <sipior> psypher246: well, what are the errors?
[13:15] <mknarr> lol if he really formats ubuntu over the vlc issuse im gona RFL
[13:15] <mknarr> ROFL*
[13:15] <sickgut> 995 on debian chan
[13:15] <sipior> psypher246: have you checked the permissions on the user's .ssh directory?
[13:15] <sickgut> mischan
[13:15] <psypher246> sipior: yes
[13:15] <psypher246> identical
[13:15] <psypher246> server can get into client though
[13:16] <psypher246> sipior: http://paste.ubuntu.com/432203/
[13:16] <gb0> hi
[13:16] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi there... i'm trying to track down the source of some odd traffic on my server. huge floods of traffic to port 53 (dns queries?) happen late at night. is there a way to pin down which processes are making this traffic? i could use lsof -i UDP:53, but how could i trigger it only during a traffic flood?
[13:16] <sipior> psypher246: i take it you have no problems when using your own account? does a new user account experience similar problems?
[13:17] <psypher246> sipior: i am having issue with my own account will try a new one quick
[13:17] <abysim> perldoc looks good thx
[13:17] <remrot> pvh_sa|wrk: hmm... you could monitor traffic and start an action. Maybe with sth. like munin...
[13:17] <sipior> psypher246: also, can you show the exact method by which you generate and copy over the keys?
[13:18] <AceKing> Can someone please help me. I started my toshiba laptop today and it comes up Network Disabled. I cannot access the internet either WiFi or ethernet Please help
[13:19] <psypher246> sipior: ssh-keygen, just take default options, scp the .pub file to server, cat .pub >> authorized_keys
[13:19] <red> Does anyone know what I could do apart from reinstalling the whole OS to resolve my compiz issues? I've been fighting for a week now to get the framerate back up to what it was in Karmic, Lucid alpha and beta. I've gone from smooth animations to really, really bad fps. Few times doing compiz --replace --loose-binding has helped, but not anymore. I've tried reinstalling nvidia-current, tried the older ones, tried going thru all the settings manually and even impor
[13:19] <red> Did my line show up completely?
[13:19] <red> Long text :)
[13:19] <Guest23265> guys..can any1 help me in installing & connecting my USB INTERNET 3G MOdem
[13:19] <gb0> hi! i got one question: is it possible to generate a download script in kubuntu 10, just like with synaptic? (i don't have internet connection at home)
[13:19] <bazhang> red have you first asked in #compiz ?
[13:19] <pvh_sa|wrk> remrot: thanks! yeah, maybe something like a snmp trap!
[13:20] <xlq> I'm on Hardy. I'm trying to remove a load of packages with aptitude. gucharmap failed to remove because it wants gconf-schemas, which I assume is part of gconf2, which has already been removed. So I want to install gconf2 again, but because gucharmap has been half-removed, apt-get doesn't want to do anything before it's fixed. Can I force-install gconf2?
[13:20] <IdleOne> AceKing: do you have a ethernet switch on the laptop? it is a manual switch that turns network on and off
[13:20] <ryoohki> does anyone with a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx tell me the vg/lv names for / and swap?  in fedoa it's VolGroup00/LogVol00 and VolGroup00/LogVol01 but in ubuntu i think it's volgroup/root and volgroup/swap_1
[13:20] <Quan-Time> red: ive noticed the same sorta issues.. nvidia had an update today if you check.
[13:20] <jrib> xlq: why are you doing this?
[13:20] <xlq> jrib: why am I doing what?
[13:20] <AceKing> IdleOne, yes. I even switched it on and off again and restarted
[13:20] <jrib> xlq: what's your end goal?
[13:20] <xlq> jrib: to remove a load of packages I don't want
[13:21] <jrib> xlq: pastebin
[13:21] <IdleOne> AceKing: ok well you want to restart it with the switch in ON position
[13:21] <AceKing> IdleOne, I did
[13:21] <sipior> psypher246: you don't use ssh-copy-id? what are the permissions on authorized_keys?
[13:21] <xlq> jrib: I'll try pastebinning.
[13:21] <larsemil> Dr_Willis: actually it worked. :) like a charm
[13:21] <Guest23265> guys..can any1 help me to install & connect my USB 3G Modem .m using UBUNTU 10.04
[13:21] <AceKing> IdleOne, I can't even get on with the ethernet cable plugged in
[13:22] <red> Quan-Time: I just installed the update and no help
[13:22] <red> bazhang: ty for the tip, asked there too.
[13:23] <peturi> Hello! where does ubuntu store the list of kernel modules to load on boot? the list in /etc/modules contains only a single entry, yet lsmod shows lots of modules i'm not using. please advice.
[13:23] <AceKing> Some how some way my network has been disabled and I can't get it back on
[13:23] <IdleOne> AceKing: try " ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 " might restart it
[13:23] <psypher246> sipior: no i dont know that method, this always works for me. have tried a new account now, still same issue, 600 on authorized_keys file
[13:23] <Xmor> добрий вечер
[13:23] <sipior> psypher246: try making it 644
[13:23] <AceKing> IdleOne, Ok
[13:23] <IdleOne> !ru | Xmor
[13:24] <Xmor> sorry
[13:24] <psypher246> sipior: nope still asks for password
[13:24] <sipior> psypher246: also, ensure that the .ssh directory mode is 755.
[13:24] <llutz> sipior: 755?? 700
[13:25] <sipior> llutz: nein.
[13:25] <psypher246> sipior: 700 works on the client, but wil try
[13:25] <llutz> sipior: usre
[13:25] <llutz> sure
[13:25] <exploit100> How can i configure to browse usb device such as pendrive or mobile memory card?
[13:25] <AceKing> IdleOne, ifdown failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied I also tried putting sudo in front of it
[13:25] <xlq> This is the output (I tried running (with 'g') twice): http://pastebin.ch/5464
[13:25] <psypher246> sipior: no didn't work either
[13:25] <ryoohki> am i getting through to this channel at all???
[13:26] <Guest23265> guys...no one to help ? i need to install &  connect my USB 3G Modem
[13:26] <remrot> peturi: many modules are loaded automatically, because of the hardware that was detected etc.
[13:26] <jrib> xlq: include the command you ran
[13:26] <IdleOne> AceKing: ok I am not sure how to help but you now have an error you can look up. closer to finding a solution
[13:26] <ryoohki> Guest23265: i can see your query but can't help you with it
[13:26] <remrot> peturi: if you don't want some modules to be loaded, you can blacklist them
[13:26] <sipior> psypher246: interesting. try adding a few more -v to ssh, see if an interesting answer comes out.
[13:26] <xlq> jrib: from aptitude, I pressed 'g'
[13:26] <jrib> xlq: what does 'g' do?
[13:26] <peturi> remrot: How can i disable the automatic loading of modules, so i can specify only which ones to load from /etc/modules like it should be?
[13:26] <eveningsky> gartral, ahh!!! The only app I had running out of terminal just now was Inkscape, and I accidently clicked the console and triggered the bug I just mentioned. But no error results cuz it closed the terminal.
[13:26] <psypher246> sipior: ok, just wanna try something else quick
[13:27] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: ls -l /var/run/network/ifstate  ...what's that give you?
[13:27] <jcrawford> hey guys this is really odd, when my caps lock key is 'on' it types normal, when it is 'off' it types IN ALL CAPS
[13:27] <xlq> jrib: add/remove packages, I think. I'm just finding out what it's labelled as in aptitude.
[13:27] <remrot> peturi: you can't. the system won't boot without some of teh modules!
[13:27] <exploit100> Guest23265, if you attach your modem then ubuntu will give you a popup to configure
[13:27] <remrot> peturi: which modules do you want to no be loaded?
[13:27] <gartral> eveningsky: ohk.. this sounds like a either a driver, or display error..are you using compiz?
[13:27] <Guest23265> ryhohki : m really tired coz of this prblm...m in a dilemma...can u suggest som alternate solution
[13:27] <exploit100> How can i configure to browse usb device such as pendrive or mobile memory card?
[13:27] <llutz> sipior: .ssh shouldn't be world-readable, that makes no sense
[13:28] <xlq> jrib: yeah, it's marked as "install/remove packages"
[13:28] <jcrawford> ANY IDEAS?
[13:28] <Guest23265> ryoohki : m really tired coz of this prblm...m in a dilemma...can u suggest som alternate solution
[13:28] <jcrawford> sorry not used to this yet lol
[13:28] <sipior> llutz: i'm not even slightly interested in your opinion.
[13:28] <jrib> xlq: it's easier to troubleshoot if you just run it as a command, but ok.  It's strange that aptitude would remove scrollkeeper and keep gucharmap with the dependency.  What do you want to do now, reinstall scrollkeeper or remove gucharmap?
[13:28] <ryoohki> Guest23265: what is the usb device?
[13:28] <exploit100> How can i configure to browse usb device such as pendrive or mobile memory card?
[13:28] <IdleOne> jcrawford: green light = stop now :)
[13:28] <xlq> jrib: remove gucharmap
[13:28] <viliny__> exploit100: pop it in and browse?
[13:28] <psypher246> sipior: fixed!
[13:28] <Guest23265> ryoohki : its an USB Modem (indian) MICROMAX MMG 300
[13:28] <ryoohki> Guest23265: what version of ubuntu? 10.04? x86_64
[13:28] <ryoohki> ??
[13:29] <jcrawford> IdleOne, any thoughts why the capslock would be "reversed"?
[13:29] <sipior> psypher246: indeed? what did you change?
 no
[13:29] <jrib> xlq: pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/gucharmap.prerm
[13:29] <Guest23265> ryoohki : yeah ubuntu 10.04
[13:29] <IdleOne> jcrawford: maybe you somehow remapped the keys? I have no idea really
[13:29] <psypher246> i copied my home folders over when i reinstalled and mounted home on separate part, permissions on home must be 755 then ssh and files within 700
[13:29] <AceKing> onetinsolier, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 2010-05-12 07:59 /var/run/network/ifstate
[13:29] <sipior> psypher246: glad you have it working.
[13:29] <viliny__> exploit100: can you expand on that?
[13:29] <jcrawford> IdleOne, no i checked the keyboard layout it seems fine USA choosen
[13:29] <psypher246> thanks man, like i said just need ed a fresh pair of yeey
[13:29] <exploit100> viliny__, sure
[13:30] <psypher246> eyes*
[13:30] <Orphamiel> hello all. is anyone having problems installing 10.04? i upgraded directly and it got stuck at memtest86.
[13:30] <xlq> jrib: it doesn't exist
[13:30] <StPiere> hello , i made an executable script to run Skype with some options, but  how do set it to be run when i click under Application -> Internet -> Skype ?
[13:30] <jrib> xlq: are you positive?
[13:30] <xlq> jrib: sorry yes it does, I typoed
[13:31] <ryoohki> Guest23265: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[13:31] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: roger. i'm not sure what's wrong. root should be able to read and write to that file. mies is like so.... -rw------- 1 root root 16 2010-05-12 05:35 ifstate
[13:31] <ryoohki> Guest23265: what does lsusb report?
[13:31] <exploit100> viliny__, i have some data in pen drive and in a memory card. I want to copy these in my computer. But when i attach the device then nothing happen. Perhps need to configure
[13:31] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, how do I fix it?
[13:32] <remrot> StPiere: you have to edit the menu. Right-click on the menu and select "edit" (or sth. similar)
[13:32] <ryoohki> Guest23265: have you tried contacting the company?  are they in india?  are you in india?
[13:32] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, I mean, is there a way to reinstall anything?
[13:32] <jrib> xlq: have you been forcing things at some point?  I don't understand how you don't have gconf-schemas if it's in a package that gucharmap depends on
[13:32] <remrot> StPiere: then change the path to the skype binary so that it points to your script
[13:32] <simmel> What am I doing wrong when `apt-get dist-upgrade` still says "The following packages have been kept back"? Any pointers?
[13:32] <Guest23265> ryoohki : http://paste.ubuntu.com/432197/
[13:32] <xlq> jrib: I haven't forced a single thing.
[13:33] <StPiere> remrot : there is no such options to edit menu with the right click
[13:33] <jrib> xlq: do you know why things like "scrollkeeper: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request" are being said?
[13:33] <viliny__> exploit100: when you plug in the pen drive you don't get a new mounted location ?
[13:33] <IdleOne> simmel: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:33] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: that's what i'm saying, i don't know. you can try to make the permissions for that file exactly like mine are, but i don't think that doing that will solve the problem. i'm not sure what's wrong
[13:33] <Appl6> s3r3n1t7: Your changing $DISPLAY worked perfectly.  Thank you very much.
[13:33] <simmel> IdleOne: still
[13:33] <xlq> jrib: well yeah, it looks like gucharmap wants scrollkeeper, which got removed. But I haven't a clue how it got removed without breaking a dependency.
[13:33] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: if you want to make the permissions exactly like mine, do --> sudo chmod go-w ifstate
[13:33] <simmel> IdleOne: as in, I'm still getting it.
[13:33] <Guest23265> ryoohki - hav tried..the co. says it provides supports for only windows version
[13:33] <remrot> StPiere: if you right-click on e.g. on "Places" you'll see the option, if you're using Gnome of course ;)
[13:34] <IdleOne> simmel: which packages ?
[13:34] <xlq> jrib: I kludged it now though, so thanks :)
[13:34] <jrib> xlq: is gconf2 installed?
[13:34] <jcrawford> IdleOne, seems like a reboot fixed it, not sure what could have caused it lol
[13:34] <jrib> xlq: ok...
[13:34] <xlq> jrib: no, it isn't.
[13:34] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, thank you for at least getting me this far. I will try that. If it doesn't work, I'll just re install 10.04
[13:34] <jcrawford> maybe something in bluez because i am using a bluetooth keyboard
[13:34] <jrib> xlq: exactly, yet it's a dependency of gucharmap
[13:34] <IdleOne> jcrawford: glad it's fixed :)
[13:34] <simmel> IdleOne: Uhm, our own, from our own repo. I was just wondering how it's possible for that to happend so I can start debug/fixing it.
[13:34] <StPiere> remrot : i see now :) .. thanks you !
[13:34] <IdleOne> jcrawford: ahh maybe
[13:34] <StPiere> *thank
[13:34] <remrot> StPiere: np
[13:35] <s3r3n1t7> Appl6, you're welcome.
[13:35] <ryoohki> Guest23265: looks like the same thing as a Huawei E220 USB
[13:35] <IdleOne> simmel: if there are new versions in the official repos or if there are depend issues with the packages in your private repo it would hold back the packages
[13:35] <IdleOne> s/new/newer
[13:36] <jrib> xlq: I think it's something you should figure out.  That's certainly neither default behavior nor is it desirable behavior
[13:36] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, chmod: cannot access 'ifstate': No such file or directory
[13:36] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: the best thing to so is put ask the question now like this... "hello. when i run this command... ifdown eth0, i get the following error --> failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[13:36] <exploit100> viliny__, ?
[13:36] <exploit100> viliny__, ???
[13:36] <syrinx2112> Hello all... has anyone had any issues with Samba in 10.04 that they were NOT having in previous versions?  I've created shares in 10.04 the same way I did in 9.10, but none of my other computers can see them (where before they came right up.)
[13:36] <viliny__> exploit100: when you plug in the pen drive you don't get a new mounted location ?
[13:37] <joaopinto> AceKing, you need to use sudo for ifdown
[13:37] <syrinx2112> Just curious if it's a known issue.
[13:37] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, thank you, I will do that!
[13:37] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: try --> sudo chmod go-w /var/run/network/ifstate
[13:37] <abhiSri> I am using a package for which i am not getting the .deb file , from where i can make sure that deb package exist for it or not;i want to package it
[13:37] <jrib> abhiSri: what package?
[13:37] <AceKing> joaopinto, onetinsoldier, I'll try that
[13:37] <abhiSri> libpdf++
[13:37] <xlq> syrinx2112: perhaps a) format of password file changed, or b) you configured samba to use UNIX extensions and symlinks that point outside the share root, which has been disallowed because it's insecure. Just guesses though.
[13:37] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: ok, good luck!
[13:37] <eveningsky> gartral, Yes, I'm using compiz. You're probably right though about getting some kind of log to report. I'll just set more apps to start from terminal and make sure to minimize all the consoles so I don't accidently click one. Gnome Do did catch on to my setting to start from terminal, it just took a minute to refresh the updated .desktop file.
[13:37] <KAIS3R> join #back2hack
[13:37] <abhiSri> jrib, libpdf++
[13:37] <exploit100> viliny__, right you are. I am not geting new mounted location
[13:38] <joaopinto> onetinsoldier, he should not change ifstate permissions
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> syrinx2112:  ive had so many issues with samba its been scary.. but its been issues in the last few releases. Dident notice the same issues in 10.04 at all. But it may depend on how you are using samba
[13:38] <remrot> abhiSri: search the ubuntu or debian package lists
[13:38] <abhiSri> remrot, where, site?
[13:38] <onetinsoldier> joaopinto: ok. well, his were different than mine and i thought that could possible be the problem
[13:38] <onetinsoldier> possibly*
[13:38] <remrot> apt-cache search libpdf++
[13:39] <jrib> abhiSri: well do, « apt-cache search -n lib pdf » and see if it turns up there.  If not, /msg ubottu packaging  if you want to contribute
[13:39] <StPiere> i set the menu entry  to run the script , but now i get the error message - permission denied. i have set the scrip with chmod u+x script_name. any advice ?
[13:39] <IdleOne> abhiSri: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:39] <joaopinto> onetinsoldier, using chmod to resolve a permission denied for something that needs to be run as root is likely to break the system
[13:39] <ryoohki> Guest23265: never mind the huwei e220 info, it's also known as a GBC China Bird Modem, USB. Model # CBCPL68
[13:39] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, ok, I tried the last command you gave me. It came back to the prompt with no errors. I will restart the laptop and see what happens
[13:39] <remrot> abhiSri: libpdf exists in debian repos, got no ubuntu atm to search there
[13:39] <viliny__> exploit100: what does fdisk -l tell you?
[13:40] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: well, like i said, my suggestion is not likely to solve the problem
[13:40] <ryoohki> Guest23265: http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=9443.0
[13:40] <abhiSri> remrot, ok
[13:40] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: try what joaopinto said
[13:40] <remrot> abhiSri: also, I don't know if libpdf++ is different from libpdf, better check that ;)
[13:40] <exploit100> i known it will popup atomically for this reason i do not try fdisk
[13:40] <Guest23265> ryoohki : the problem is tat the system is not detecting as modem
[13:40] <abhiSri> remrot, i will check it out , but i think both are different ,
[13:41] <StPiere>  set the menu entry  to run the script , but now i get the error message - permission denied. i have set the scrip with chmod u+x script_name. any advice ?
[13:41] <mawst> Is there a way to remount drives in fstab without rebooting?
[13:41] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, that's ok, I appreciate the help. I will try what joaopinto said before I restart
[13:41] <noric> I have some exciting news.  There is a package named cvoicecontrol, written in 2000, that allows you to map speech phrases to unix commands.  As far as I can tell, no one has got it working for 5 years or so, and more or less left it for dead.  I managed to get it up and running last night : - ).  "play music"  awesome!
[13:41] <simmel> IdleOne: aaah, one of the dependencies depend on a package that have version >= 1.9 and that package hasn't been pushed out to the repo yet. Thanks for helping.
[13:41] <joaopinto> mawst, sudo mount -a
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> mawst:  sudo mount OPTIONS  (theres a remount option)
[13:41] <rolsworth> is there anything i can do to fix the poor sound quality in ubuntu? I have an xfi sound card
[13:41] <abhiSri> remrot, http://sourceforge.net/people/viewjob.php?group_id=14057&job_id=34688 , have a look please
[13:41] <remrot> abhiSri: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=libpdf
[13:41] <noric> Since Ubuntu is a little ways out on voice control, this makes me very happy
[13:42] <IdleOne> simmel: sure thing. :)
[13:42] <abhiSri>  /msg ubottu packaging
[13:42] <mawst> thanks
[13:42] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: sounds good. just figure you need the 'sudo' command for pretty much everyting you'll be trying right now, pretty much. if you want a root prompt, do --> sudo -i
[13:42] <AceKing> joaopinto, onetinsoldier, I tried with sudo and I'm still getting interface eth0 not configured
[13:42] <ryoohki> Guest23265: there's ways to tell system when you modprobe
[13:42] <noric> Is anyone interested in voice controlling your ubuntu box?  Not for operational tasks, rather for ambient stuff like "play music" or  "battlestar galactica"
[13:42] <joaopinto> AceKing, blindly executing commands will not help you, if you don't have eth0 configured there is no point in deactivating it
[13:43] <remrot> AceKing: you must either specify an IP or set it to use DHCP
[13:43] <viliny__> exploit100: You will not try fdisk?
[13:43] <IdleOne> noric: submit a patch
[13:43] <xlq> joaopinto: like Prody Parrot :)
[13:43] <jrib> noric: you should put up a wiki page
[13:43] <ryoohki> Guest23265: modprobe cdc_acm && modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1c9e product=0x9603
[13:43] <remrot> abhiSri: I see, interesting project, maybe you should contact "match41", as suggested on the sf page
[13:43] <noric> IdleOne, cool, I will spruce up my mods and get on it
[13:44] <sipior> noric: i think it's one of those things that is cool for the first hour or so, but rapidly loses its lustre :-)
[13:44] <AceKing> joaopinto, I am lost with all this. I'm just trying what I'm told. Everything was working fine until I started the laptop today
[13:44] <joaopinto> noric, can you provide me a link for that software with your fixes ?
[13:44] <noric> sipior, I bought a crappy hand-held mic for $17, I am going to duct tape it to something, and see if I can get ambient commands to work, like in star trek.
[13:44] <joaopinto> noric, that would be interesting for accessibility
[13:44] <xlq> sipior: like compiz :)
[13:44] <sipior> xlq: fair to say :-)
[13:44] <IdleOne> noric: jrib's suggestion of making a wiki page is also great and can get other people excited about helping with making the package do even more :)
[13:44] <remrot> AceKing: did you install or change anything yesterday?
[13:45] <AceKing> remrot, no
[13:45] <abhiSri> remrot, i tried but i am not getting any response , so i thought to do it myself
[13:45] <noric> joaopinto, IdleOne, cool, I will make a wiki page
[13:45] <viliny__> exploit100: Well i don't have the time or interest to sit here and wait until you reply - hope you get your stuff fixed.
[13:45] <remrot> AceKing: is your router running and working correctly?
[13:45] <dkam> n00b question - does 10.04 use dbus? If so - why is there no /etc/init(.d)/dbus on my system (slicehost)?
[13:45] <manibuntu> do you have any idée why file in hwmon swicth between hwmon0 or hwmon4 at different boot pls ?
[13:45] <joaopinto> noric, great, please let me know the url when it's done
[13:45] <IdleOne> noric: see what you did, one sentence and joaopinto already is interrested in hacking at it :)
[13:45] <manibuntu> idea*
[13:46] <remrot> dkam: because Ubuntu uses upstart
[13:46] <noric> : - )
[13:46] <joaopinto> dkam, ubuntu uses upstart, check /etc/init
[13:46] <noric> I will work on it now... is there a particular wiki I should use ?
[13:46] <IdleOne> wiki.ubuntu.com
[13:46] <AceKing> remrot, yes, I have my PC which I am using right now, and my other laptop which is working fine
[13:46] <cham> How do I specify a user which cron should use when running a specific job?
[13:46] <dkam> remrot : Upstart uses dbus events though doesn't it?
[13:46] <noric> Thanks!
[13:46] <noric> afk a bit, working on it
[13:47] <joaopinto> noric, if you have a real interest on developing it you should setup a project on launchpad, import it to bzr, etc etc
[13:47] <remrot> dkam: yes, but it doesn't use init scripts to start services, check the wiki
[13:47] <dkam> remrot: eg - if I plug in some hardware - doesn't dbus notifiy a upstart service
[13:47] <AceKing> remrot, if I hover my mouse over the network connections it says "Network disabled"
[13:47] <joaopinto> dkam, dbus are upstart are not related per si, upstart is just an init replacement
[13:47] <noric> joaopinto, I have formal computer science education, but I know little about the OSS development process.  I can work with trivial makefiles, and build most src, but that's about it
[13:47] <remrot> dkam: udev is the first userspace daemon that known anything about hardware
[13:48] <sipior> noric: sounds like this project will be a great way to learn :-)
[13:48] <joaopinto> upstart starts dbus , and uses dbus for it's internal functions
[13:48] <IdleOne> !packaging > noric
[13:48] <remrot> AceKing: if you open the network manager setting, is everything set to use DHCP?
[13:48] <ryoohki> Guest23265: read this page: http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=9443.0 you may need this "usb_modeswitch" command
[13:48] <noric> Cool I will check the packaging guide out
[13:48] <ryoohki> does anyone with a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx tell me the vg/lv names for / and swap?  in fedoa it's VolGroup00/LogVol00 and VolGroup00/LogVol01 but in ubuntu i think it's volgroup/root and volgroup/swap_1
[13:48] <noric> sipior, does sound like a good way to learn : - )
[13:48] <AceKing> remrot, is that Network tools in Administration?
[13:49] <joaopinto> noric, I can help your with packaging, but is not that important at this stage
[13:49] <remrot> AceKing: left or right-clicking on the nw-applet should give you a menu
[13:49] <noric> joaopinto, cool.  I will start with the wiki, describing what works, what doesn't, wishlist, etc
[13:49] <joaopinto> first it needs to be available somewhere from source so people can try and test it, then it may be stable for a package :P
[13:49] <joaopinto> noric, great :)
[13:50] <ryoohki> anyone with a fresh install of 10.04 who can help me?
[13:50] <dkam> joaopinto: OK - I thought Upstart relied on DBUS events - like "startup" etc. Is there a list of upstart events - or a method of generating them?
[13:50] <gartral> alright all, i have a slew of issues in 10.04: main two are: Magicjack device halts gdm/gnome on load.. spuratic kernel panics when using wine.. and plymouth is garbled on boot
[13:50] <Pici> dkam: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ would be the best place to start.
[13:50] <AceKing> remrot, I feel stupid.. when I right clicked on the nw-applet I was able to enable networking.
[13:51] <eveningsky> I'm trying to build newest gtk+. During configure, I get "TIFF library not found" with mention of libtiff. I have the following libtiff library files: /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4.3.2 /usr/lib32/libtiff.so /usr/lib32/libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib32/libtiff.so.4.3.2  How do I make them available to the compiler?
[13:51] <jrib> eveningsky: why are you doing this?
[13:51] <IdleOne> AceKing: :)
[13:51] <remrot> AceKing: hehe, that was easy ;)
[13:51] <llutz> eveningsky: you need the libtif...dev package
[13:51] <joaopinto> dkam, a list no, a way to generate them, initctl emmit
[13:51] <ryoohki> can anyone answer a quick question??????????
[13:51] <Pici> !ask
[13:51] <jrib> ryoohki: not if you don't ask it!
[13:51] <joaopinto> dkam, man initctl
[13:52] <AceKing> IdleOne, remrot, joaopinto, thank you for your help.
[13:52] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: i'm glad you got it worked out :-)
[13:52] <dkam> Thanks guys - I'll check that out.
[13:52] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, thank you for your help.
[13:52] <onetinsoldier> AceKing: better that reinstalling 10.04 wasn't it? hehe, you're welcome, but i didn't really do anything
[13:53] <eveningsky> jrib, I discovered since I'm running inkscape from a terminal that it has a repeated gtk-critical error. Bug reports showed it was a bug in gtk+ that has since been fixed in newer versions.
[13:53] <AceKing> onetinsoldier, you're not kidding!
[13:53] <jrib> eveningsky: how does it affect you other than the message?
[13:53] <ryoohki> jrib: i need to know the default volgroup and volnames of a fresh 10.04 install, in fedora it would be VolGroup00/LogVol00 and VolGroup00/LogVol01 for / and swap.  for 10.04 i think it's volgroup00/root volgroup00/swap_1 for / and swap
[13:54] <joaopinto> dkam, for regular upstart use you don't need to use dbus, you just need to define a service script at /etc/init/service.conf
[13:54] <remrot> eveningsky: maybe the libtiff headers are missing !?
[13:54] <remrot> eveningsky: install the libtiff-dev package if not yet done
[13:55] <AceKing> IdleOne, remrot, joaopinto, onetinsoldier, thank you for not making me feel stupid. That is why I love Ubuntu and this channel!
[13:55] <ryoohki> cat /etc/fstab should show this info
[13:55] <dkam> joaopinto: I'm attempting to write my daemons (for my webapp) to be controlled by upstart - rather than rolling my own.  But I want to send them signals from other scripts (to restart / reload). I thought I needed DBus - but I see I need to generate upstart events.
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> ryoohki:  my fstab dosent mention any volgroups...
[13:56] <IdleOne> AceKing: That is Ubuntu!
[13:56] <eveningsky> llutz, thanks. i only had the regular libtiff4 package.
[13:56] <llutz> eveningsky: when compiling you alwyas need the corresponding -dev packages
[13:56] <eveningsky> remrot ^
[13:56] <ryoohki> Dr_Willis: what about lvscan or lsvg?
[13:57] <roshan-george> Hello, everyone, I just want to run a few java programs on my 64-bit Ubuntu 9.04 install. Should I install the sun-java-jre or openjdk? Is it possible to install either of these without the browser plugins?
[13:57] <ryoohki> Dr_Willis: are you on a fresh install of 10.04?
[13:57] <jrib> eveningsky: you really shouldn't be compiling gtk like this, it's just a headache waiting to happen
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> ryoohki:  i have no lsvg command...
[13:57] <TnEt> Hi All....is anyone experiencing issues with 10.04 locking up? Keyboard and mouse are not responding...the only thing to do is to hit the power off button. Anyone experiencing this???
[13:57] <yorick> help...my dns lookups are extremely slow on ubuntu 10.04
[13:57] <ryoohki> TnEt: could you help me?
[13:58] <Sorcererbob> TnEt, I'd be thinking you have faulty RAM at a guess. it's the most common explanation for it
[13:58] <eveningsky> jrib, I'm not sure. I've had a several crashes that could be related. One reported bug in particular I plan to check if it fixes.
[13:58] <jrib> eveningsky: patch the source package and rebuild
[13:58] <ryoohki> yorick: would you tell me what you volgroup and lv names are for / and swap?
[13:58] <yorick> ryoohki: how do I see
[13:58] <TnEt> ryoohki: I've never had this problem before....I've been on 9.10 and all was okay....this only has happened since I upgraded.
[13:59] <ryoohki> yorick: lvscan or cat /etc/fsrab
[13:59] <sipior> roshan-george: sure, you can install the sun-java6-jre package. the broswer plugin lives in the package sun-java6-plugin.
[13:59] <ryoohki> TnEt: can you ssh in from another manchine?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> ryoohki:  this has to do with LVM stuff?
[13:59] <ryoohki> Dr_Willis: my problem does
[13:59] <yorick> UUID=1564b74d-c2be-4ec3-93e1-1dfa2d7e65d1 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> ryoohki:  lvm is not set up by default i belive
[14:00] <yorick> UUID=f3589806-73a7-4d32-a091-bf68c5bd0c38 none            swap    sw
[14:00] <ikonia> correct, it's not
[14:00] <Guest23265> ryoohki: cheers i m able to c tat usb modem now
[14:00] <ryoohki> Guest23265: glad i could help
[14:00] <roshan-george> sipior: Thanks!
[14:00] <Guest23265> ryoohki : yeah..it was simple yet tough
[14:00] <ryoohki> Guest23265: was it the usb_???? command that was needed?
[14:01] <ryoohki> Guest23265: did you even use that usb_modeswitch command?
[14:01] <Guest23265> ryoohki:  i tried sudo usb_modeswitch , modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1c9e product=0x9603
[14:01] <yorick> but my internet is still slow
[14:02] <yorick> I changed stuff in nsswitch.conf on 9.10
[14:02] <ryoohki> Guest23265: and that's all it needed?
[14:02] <yorick> but now it's slow again
[14:02] <yorick> the disable_ipv6 trick on firefox does work
[14:02] <Guest23265> ryoohki : yeah...
[14:02] <Guest23265> ryoohki : i m able to c tat modem in Mobile Broadband section
[14:02] <ryoohki> Guest23265: i thought that might work but i have no experince with that stuff
[14:02] <ryoohki> Guest23265: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[14:03] <Guest8606> Would anyone with experience with Ubuntu Server (10.04) be willing to help me a bit?
[14:03] <chrisY2K10a> Guest8606, whats the problem?
[14:03] <Guest23265> ryoohki : ubuntu 10.04 ....now new problem raises....i need to put some extra initialisation commands..but where >
[14:03] <yorick> help?
[14:03] <Guest8606> No real problem, Just have a ton of newb questions. Haven't used linux in far too long.
[14:04] <chrisY2K10a> fire away
[14:04] <ryoohki> Guest8606: if you have 10.04 already up with a lvm, could you help me with a little info?
[14:04] <Guest8606> I literally just installed, ryoohki--Im afraid I wont be much help.
[14:04] <yorick> hello...helpless user here :D
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Guest8606
[14:04] <erUSUL> !ask
[14:05] <ryoohki> Guest8606: type lvscan and tell me what the volgroup name is, please
[14:05] <patdk-wk> heh, lucid just forcibly logged out my user :(
[14:05] <bedahr> Hi! I am looking for a way to propose a project to Canonical / Ubuntu. Are there "official" channels for that? For example: The new notification system was an "official" development of Canonical/Ubuntu if I'm not mistaken...
[14:05] <patdk-wk> I clicked to change the window I was typing on
[14:05] <erUSUL> !blueprints
[14:05] <patdk-wk> and my screen flashed a few times, and I had the login prompt :(
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> !brainstorm | bedahr
[14:05] <roshan-george> yorick: perhaps you should disable IPv6 across the system with something like `sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1`?
[14:06] <yorick> roshan-george: how'd that work
[14:06] <bullgard4> '~$  apt-cache show gnome-keyring' prints text in English although my locales are in my native language. How can I make its output text localized?
[14:06] <bedahr> Well I found both blueprints and brainstorm, I'm looking for a more "official" proposal (including cost analysis, planned funding, etc.)
[14:07] <eveningsky> jrib, As far as I can tell, nobody made a patch. Someone just commited a version with the fix in it.
[14:07] <yorick> roshan-george: would that work instantly?
[14:07] <mrbnet> IS there any different config for mtop on Ubuntu? I know I am maxing out the queries per second on my system but it doesn't show any. Same process will show 2,000 queries per second on my debian system
[14:07] <ryoohki> Guest8606: are you still there?
[14:07] <roshan-george> yorick: It should.
[14:07] <jrib> eveningsky: same thing
[14:07] <roshan-george> yorick: It gets reset on a reboot anyway
[14:07] <Guest8606> Im here, ryoohki--trying to keep up.
[14:07] <yorick> roshan-george: it doesn't
[14:07] <lfaraone> When I curl something as my normal user, I get "empty reply from server", but curling as root gets the data. Howcan I fix that?
[14:07] <eveningsky> jrib, then what are you telling me to do that's any different than what I'm doing?
[14:07] <erUSUL> bedahr: there is no other mothod for an "outsider" afaik. but you could try to contect someone at Canonical (irc not being the best method for that ...)
[14:08] <yorick> I tested with host google.com
[14:08] <jrib> !source > eveningsky
[14:08] <roshan-george> yorick: I see.
[14:08] <jrib> eveningsky: even better would be to do it some virtualized environment
[14:08] <ryoohki> Guest8606: would you help me?  you'ld learn a little about the system
[14:08] <yorick> roshan-george: it gives some valid ipv6 addresses, and then ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached" twice
[14:08] <MegaHerz> Hi all. Why Ubuntu printing asks for LOGIN to a windows station on a LAN, while it doesn't require to be logged in to Print?
[14:09] <joaopinto> lfaraone, your problem is very unusual, the running user should have no effect on the curl outcome
[14:09] <Guest8606> ryoohki, I will do what I can to help.
[14:09] <joaopinto> lfaraone, is it an external accessible url ?
[14:09] <lfaraone> joaopinto: yes. http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xpad/xpad_4.0-5.dsc
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  printers can be set up to allow guest printing.
[14:09] <h00k> bedahr: Perhaps try http://www.canonical.com/aboutus/contactus
[14:09] <ryoohki> Guest8606: type "lvscan" as root or "sudo lvscan" otherwise
[14:09] <lfaraone> joaopinto: in fact, even Nobody can get it :)
[14:10] <ryoohki> Guest8606: don't cut and paste the output
[14:10] <erUSUL> lfaraone: maybe you have something on the users envoirment that affects curl ? proxy defined? some other var?
[14:10] <eveningsky> jrib, the version with the fix is not in the repositories yet. it has to be built from source.
[14:10] <bedahr> erUSUL: ok thanks
[14:10] <jrib> eveningsky: you are missing my point
[14:10] <erUSUL> bedahr: no problem
[14:10] <bedahr> h00k: Yeah I guess so...
[14:10] <yorick> roshan-george: http://pastebin.com/7QzATDKZ
[14:10] <ryoohki> Guest8606: just let me know when done
[14:10] <joaopinto> lfaraone, ping ftp.us.debian.org, is not available, if its working as root then you must have an /etc/hosts for it in a way that only root can read it
[14:10] <eveningsky> jrib. I know that's why I'm trying to ask you what your point is. I'm not getting it.
[14:10] <yorick> roshan-george: it happens when I do host -4 too
[14:10] <bazhang> lfaraone, you are trying to install xpad?
[14:11] <Guest8606> Ryoohki: if I run it without sudo, I get a "running as non-root, functionality may be unavailable" but when I run it as sudo lvscan nothing happens.
[14:11] <bedahr> I guess the ISV partner program is not about Canonical getting involved but rather a bit of collaboration (joined marketing, etc.)?
[14:11] <MegaHerz> Dr_Willis: Thanks for reply. I've just added Guests group and granted Printing on Windows. Is it enough? Guest account is disabled though.
[14:11] <joaopinto> lfaraone, oh wait, it's ramdomly failing
[14:11] <joaopinto> lfaraone, ftp.us.debian.org is a round robing DNS entry, it will work or not depending on the returned IP
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  no idea. I always twiddle with the settings till it works.. of course My new printer has its own printserver. :) so i dont even have to do that.,
[14:11] <jrib> eveningsky: build a package, do it right.  Unfortunately, I don't have time to fill in details at the moment.  The wiki on packaging should be sufficient
[14:11] <MegaHerz> Dr_Willis: all this is strange for me. Why I can print from any other windows station but NOT from Ubuntu?
[14:11] <ryoohki> Guest8606: type "cat /etc/fstab" and let me know what the swap line reads
[14:11] <lfaraone> joaopinto: wget works, however. curl *always* failes under my user, and *always* works under another user. I just tested it 10 times.
[14:12] <lfaraone> bazhang: No, I'm trying to use dget -xu so I can test that it builds on Maverick before I file a sync request to drop the Ubuntu changes.
[14:12] <jrib> eveningsky: in particular, you can either do this by adding a patch to the current package or just upgrading the package to a new version.  And as I said, it would be nice, if you are really just testing if these errors stop the crashes, to first do this in a virtualized environment
[14:12] <joaopinto> lfaraone, curl randomly works on me, always with a regular user
[14:12] <MegaHerz> Why Ubuntu asks for password to print on a windows printer, while other windoes hosts do not require any password?
[14:12] <remrot> lfaraone: stry stracing it
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  could be the windows machines are also some how auto-logging in to the shares/printer in a way ubuntu isent.
[14:12] <hateball> Can I change the gnome/nautilus cd-burner speed? I cant find any gconf settings. The ones I can choose from are too low, and forcing others when running wodim manually works just fine
[14:12] <joaopinto> lfaraone, something is affecting your dns lookups in a non random fashion
[14:12] <yorick> any ideas?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  i rarely go ubuntu->windows Printer..  I always go windows -> ubuntu printserver :)
[14:13] <MegaHerz> Dr_Willis: you are lucky
[14:13] <Guest8606> Ryoohki, there's a lot of information that came up -- what in specific are you looking for, sir?
[14:13] <MegaHerz> Dr_Willis: I'm @ laptop, running here and there, many offices
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  of course mosta ll the new printers i See these days are wireless/network capable :)
[14:13] <erUSUL> hateball: gconf-editor apps>
[14:13] <ryoohki> Guest8606: the swao line.  try egrep -i swap /etc/fstab
[14:14] <joaopinto> lfaraone, nslookup nslookup ftp.us.debian.org, it should return 5 IP addresses
[14:14] <joaopinto> ops, just one nslookup :P
[14:14] <hateball> erUSUL: Yeah, I cant find anything there tho... searching for burner gives nada
[14:15] <Guest8606> ryoohki, do you want me to just type out everything that came from that?
[14:15] <MegaHerz> Ok. Simple question. What username/group/password should I type to print on Windows host?
[14:15] <erUSUL> hateball: apps>nautilus-cd-burner>defaultspeed
[14:15] <lfaraone> joaopinto: huh, doing "sudo su lfaraone" and curling works...
[14:15] <ryoohki> Guest8606: no, i'm only looking for something that looks like volgroup00-swap01
[14:16] <ryoohki> Guest8606: or maybe it will look like VolGroup00/swap_1
[14:16] <hateball> erUSUL: it's not there in lucid... used to be before that. It would seem it's brasero that launches when you open an ISO, but the related gconf entries dont have anything related to speed by default
[14:16] <bullgard4> '~$  apt-cache show gnome-keyring' prints text in English although my locales are in my native language. How can I make its output text localized?
[14:16] <Guest8606> Nothing VolGroup at all.
[14:17] <erUSUL> hateball: then i dunno ... sorry
[14:17] <lfaraone> remrot: output of strace: http://sprunge.us/NONI
[14:17] <ryoohki> Guest8606: try "sudo vgdisplay" please
[14:17] <bouma> is anyone a deep unix guru? my question is my dont symlinks have chmod style permissions .. what is the good reason for this. is it just a simple matter of consistence, and for any situation where i want to change the mod on a symlink i should be using hardlinks ???
[14:17] <noric> After signing in with your OpenID ubuntu launchpad credentials, is it customary to use your real name as your Ubuntu Wiki account name?
[14:17] <bouma> ^must have proof of beard
[14:17] <Guest8606> ryoohki, nothing happened.
[14:17] <joaopinto> lfaraone, are you using curl from lucid ?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> ryoohki:  Hmm.. One could of done an install of ubuntu inside virtualbox and see what 'volgroup' stuff it uses in the time this has been going on. :)
[14:18] <ryoohki> Guest8606: thanks
[14:18] <lfaraone> joaopinto: yes.
[14:18] <ryoohki> Dr_Willis: that's what i stuck working on
[14:18] <h00k> noric: generally, but you don't have to
[14:18] <IdleOne> bullgard4: it will only show in your language if that info has been translated.
[14:18] <joaopinto> lfaraone, pastebin nslookup ftp.us.debian.org
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. can a hardlinks file have 2 differnt set of permissions?
[14:18] <ryoohki> bouma: symlinks always are rwxrwxrwx
[14:18] <SwedeMike> bouma: http://www.zzee.com/solutions/chmod-help.shtml#zzee_link_7_1077830225
[14:19] <h00k> noric: there is no 'set rule,' it's as you want
[14:19] <joaopinto> Dr_Willis, most likely, yes
[14:19] <noric> h00k, ty, was as easy as checking out some of the Team pages
[14:19] <lfaraone> joaopinto: http://sprunge.us/HjWa , like I said it works from wget :)
[14:19] <ryoohki> Guest8606: thanks!
[14:19] <bullgard4> IdleOne: That information has been translated. I do not know who did it.
[14:19] <outsiders> so exciting
[14:19] <Guest8606> You're welcome, sorry I wasnt more helpful.
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> joaopinto:  just tried it here and it dont work that way.
[14:19] <h00k> noric: cool
[14:19] <remrot> lfaraone: don't see any errors locally...
[14:19] <joaopinto> lfaraone, does a subsequent nslookup returns the hosts on the same order ?
[14:20] <ryoohki> does anyone have the default lvm in 10.04?
[14:20] <lfaraone> joaopinto: no.
[14:20] <remrot> lfaraone: if the same file works with wget, it's probably the transfer mode...
[14:20] <outsiders> Hello,everyone
[14:20] <bouma> SwedeMike: from what i understood that page you liked is wrong, chmod only acts on the deferenced file if there is a trailing /  but i could be wrong or out of date
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> Does the normal desktop installer cd even let you do a LVM? ive never noticed
[14:20] <SwedeMike> bouma: there seems to be both ways depending on system. Regardless, symlinks can't have permissions.
[14:21] <SwedeMike> Dr_Willis: no, only the alternate (and server perhaps) installer will do lvm
[14:21] <bouma> SwedeMike: why does this make sense, when hardlinks can ?
[14:21] <Guest8606> ryoohki, is 10.04 server strictly command based? if not, how can I use the gui?
[14:21] <hp00p> can anyone help me out? I have three ubuntus all the same version.. dont know which one to delete, last time it screwed up the boot loader and I had to boot from the cd I want to change the name of my current partition and fix boot loader
[14:21] <joaopinto> lfaraone, there is something caching the dns lookups for whatever resolver function is used by curl, and that cache is behaving on a per user fashion
[14:21] <lfaraone> remrot: huh? I'm out of my knowedge there.
[14:21] <outsiders> so many I don't  know
[14:21] <ryoohki> bouma: symlinks never have their own permissions - it wouldn't make sense
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest8606:  you can install the X/desktop if you wanted
[14:21] <lfaraone> joaopinto: seems sensible, but I van't find anything useful about that.
[14:22] <ryoohki> Guest8606: try "telinit 5"
[14:22] <SwedeMike> bouma: it's just defined that way. hardlinks is a new "file" , whereas symlink is not.
[14:22] <llutz> Dr_Willis: if you change permission on hardlinks, you'll change file-permissions too (sounds logical to me, both point to same inode)
[14:22] <onetinsoldier> Guest8606: install some window manager on it, and you'get X-Windows
[14:22] <joaopinto> lfaraone, curl/wget/whatever ftp.us.debian.org is expected to get you into random servers
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  yep. Hard or soft.. changing the link. changes the orignal file here.. (from what i am seeing)
[14:22] <bouma> ryoohki: couldnt you like use the and wise mask of the chain of symlinks to get the final mask
[14:22] <ryoohki> Guest8606: you may have to "apt-get install kde" or "apt-get install gnome"
[14:22] <erUSUL> bouma: a simlink is a file that contains a file path. a hardlink is a inod that p9oints to the same data that other inode (so you have to entries un the filesystem pointing to the same place)
[14:22] <joaopinto> lfaraone, do you use dnsmasq or a similar tool ?
[14:22] <SwedeMike> when you do a hard link you can't really tell the difference between the two different files anymore, they're two equal pointers, whereas a symlink is always depending on the "real" file.
[14:22] <remrot> lfaraone: different transfer modes exist for ftp, like binary vs. ascii
[14:23] <ryoohki> bouma: only the perms on the final file matter
[14:23] <onetinsoldier> Guest8606: window managers are like, wmaker, metacity, icewm, compiz, ect...
[14:23] <agronholm> hi, is there a service in /etc/init.d that manages netfilter/iptables?
[14:23] <ryoohki> bouma: other wise i could make a symlink in my home dir and give my self suid
[14:23] <hp00p> no one has a clue ?
[14:24] <abli> Hi! I am trying to install lucid using RAID, (using the alternate install image, amd64) and would like to use cfdisk to copy the partition table information from the first disk to the rest (to ensure that they are all partitioned the same way, the disks are identical), but can't seem to find cfdisk. Is it no longer part of the installer?
[14:24] <erUSUL> !firewall | agronholm
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> is there a way to make windows dock on the left and right side of the screen by dragging it over to the side like in KDE?
[14:24] <lfaraone> joaopinto: it's installed, but it's not in use.
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> agronholm:  check /etc/init also for service scripts   init.d is getting slowly phased out
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> in gnome
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> TommyThaGun:  not that ive seen
[14:24] <ryoohki> Guest8606: did telinit 5 work?
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> bummer
[14:24] <remrot> lfaraone: if wget works, as the same user with the same environment, I doubt that there's a problem with the network, DNS or sth. like that
[14:24] <lfaraone> joaopinto: I just stopped dnsmasq and no change.
[14:24] <Guest8606> ryookhi, no telinit 5 did nothing.
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> TommyThaGun:  there MIGHT be a compiz plugin to do it. but ive never noticed one.
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> hmmm
[14:25] <TommyThaGun> maybe I'll ask in #compiz
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> TommyThaGun:  perhaps experimental ones.
[14:25] <wertwertgfhjrer> #kubuntu
[14:25] <remrot> lfaraone: can you paste the url of teh file please?
[14:25] <mkjackson> hey folks, any way I can create my own background "collections"?
[14:26] <joaopinto> lfaraone, installing dnsmasq will change your dns related config, it is most likely related to your problem
[14:26] <The_Chiller> anyone know the options for "netstat"?
[14:26] <llutz> The_Chiller: "man netstat"
[14:26] <bouma> ryoohki: erUSUL SwedeMike, thanks, i guess what youve told me makes sense, is consistent, and is the simplest solution. but i still think you could have an elaborate scheme where if a symlink pemits but the next sym points to doesnt then it is denied, essentially take the bitwise and of the stack of all symlinks, although what about groups.user... let me think about my overly complex thought for a sec
[14:26] <ryoohki> Guest8606: try holding down the CTRL key and the ALT key at the same time and press the F1 - F8 keys one at a time
[14:26] <mkjackson> I created the XML file in the folder with the collections in the /usr/share/backgrounds directory but I'm not sure how to make it recognize it
[14:26] <lfaraone> remrot: *any* URL fails with CURL under my user. But take http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sablotron/sablotron_1.0.3-1.1.dsc for example.
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> mkjackson:  perhaps look at -> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/script-to-generate-xml-wallpaper-file.html
[14:27] <ryoohki> bouma: then you could just fingure out the last file pointed to and use the full path
[14:27] <SwedeMike> bouma: well, I guess permissions could be ANDed and then allowed, but yes, it's complicated and I would imagine it could break things, some filesystems might not be designed with permission flags for symlinks
[14:27] <seismicmike> is there a way to have my microphone feed back through my headphones? I use pretty hefty headphones when I'm talking on skype and stuff and it''d be nice to be able to hear myself.
[14:27] <mkjackson> Dr_Willis: Thanks man, JUST found a link to the same exact page... funny how the answers come in packs
[14:27] <ryoohki> Guest8606: still here?
[14:27] <joaopinto> lfaraone, sudo apt-get purge resolvconf dnsmasq
[14:27] <mkjackson> Dr_Willis: :-)
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> mkjackson:  i got that one on my Delicious links. but i perfer other wallpaper changer tools
[14:28] <Guest8606> Here, ryoohki--trying things :)
[14:28] <shuxun_> how to join the china's group?
[14:28] <llutz> !cn
[14:28] <Oer> !cn
[14:28] <ryoohki> Guest8606: type "tty"
[14:28] <shuxun_> thanks
[14:28] <erUSUL> bouma: everybody can read a syumlink see what path it points to and try to access the file it points to at that point is where permissions are checked against the file not the symlink. in the case of a hard link when you open it is just like a regular file with its inode so you check permissions at that point (and thus makes sense to be able to change them)
[14:28] <sanderj__> Does anyojne know if the mainboard Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H
[14:28] <sanderj__>  works with ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:28] <seismicmike> I used to be able to, but I can't figure it out with the new sound preferences menu
[14:28] <ryoohki> Guest8606: what did it say?
[14:29] <erUSUL> sanderj__: sure why not ? or does it includes some piece of weird hardware ?
[14:29] <rolsworth> is there anything i can do to fix the poor sound quality in ubuntu? I have an xfi sound card
[14:29] <bouma> erUSUL: is there a way to find (efficiently) all fqpn that are the same inode ?
[14:29] <sanderj__> erUSUL, It has hdmi, wondring if that works.
[14:30] <joaopinto> bouma, find path -inum inodenr
[14:30] <ryoohki> bouma: no - you have to use find
[14:30] <llutz> bouma: find -inum -samefile
[14:30] <ryoohki> Guest8606: what did "tty" report?
[14:30] <erUSUL> sanderj__: intel graphic card... really dunno still using vga here ;)
[14:31] <hp00p> rolsworth: maybe your sound is up too high
[14:31] <rolsworth> no
[14:31] <rolsworth> 5.1 does not work properly and changing the volume gives a scratchy sound
[14:31] <Guest8606> ryoohki, "/dev/tty1/" is all that happens
[14:31] <bouma> erUSUL: so then you can find another hardlink with possibly more permissive perms and use that instead, which is the same criticism of pems for softlinks
[14:31] <rolsworth> tried everything
[14:31] <ryoohki> Guest8606: you are on a serial port?
[14:32] <joaopinto> rolsworth, you should file a bug report about it
[14:32] <lfaraone> joaopinto: yeah, still "curl: (52) Empty reply from server"
[14:32] <tju8895> /quit
[14:32] <joaopinto> lfaraone, pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf and ls -la etc/resolv.conf
[14:32] <onetinsoldier> rolsworth: i recommend you poke around in the sound preferences, just click on the speaker icon in the panel, and make sure everything looks like it's configured
[14:32] <ryoohki> Guest8606: there's no x unless on a console or vnc
[14:32] <erUSUL> bouma: what criticism? symlinks permissions do not matter are never checked and can not be used to bypass any security
[14:32] <rolsworth> also raid installs don't work with 10.04. I see there has been a bug filing about it since the beta. Never fixed
[14:33] <bouma> btw, i dont expect to find some grand hole in unix, im just trying to learn the wisdom from the decades old systems
[14:33] <Guest8606> ryoohki, I see. Thank you for trying :)
[14:33] <MegaHerz> How to configure samba? Workgroup for example
[14:33] <joaopinto> lfaraone, does curl <IP_ADDRESS> works from your user ?
[14:33] <llutz> bouma: hardlinks always have the same permissions as the origin file
[14:33] <rolsworth> everything is configured
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:33] <ryoohki> Guest8606: are you on the graphical console or a serial terminal?
[14:34] <bouma> llutz: hardlinks cant have different perms ?
[14:34] <llutz> bouma: if you change one, the other get changed too
[14:34] <llutz> bouma: nope
[14:34] <rolsworth> i guess there are no proper drivers for x-fi xtrememgamer. i tried 32bit and 64bit and got the same results
[14:34] <bouma> llutz: oh, darn, i gave my bro the wrong advice earlier today than
[14:34] <ryoohki> Guest8606: i'm not sure if ubuntu has run levels either
[14:34] <llutz> bouma: http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html
[14:34] <Guest8606> ryoohki, Im sitting here on my laptop. The linux box is behind me in my office.
[14:35] <yorick> ok...I changed my dns servers to the google one...I think it fixed my problem
[14:35] <onetinsoldier> rolsworth: hmmm, sorry yours isn't working quite right. my x-fi titanium works fine in 64-bit
[14:35] <MegaHerz> Is there any GUI in Ubuntu for configuring Samba?
[14:35] <llutz> bouma: hardlink and file use the same inode, which only can have one set of permissions
[14:35] <kraehe_> i'm trying to convert an ubuntu 10.4 to a discless system - with a kernel and server that is able to boot a discless debian
[14:35] <marel> !help
[14:35] <dad_> hello
[14:35] <erUSUL> !info gadmin-samba
[14:35] <ryoohki> bouma: there is only on inode in a hardlink
[14:35] <bouma> llutz: perhaps when we get fs's with builtin datadeplication for arbitrary internal byte extents then that will become pratical
[14:35] <ryoohki> Bombo: try "stat filename"
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, can anyone give the command to get the volume icon back into the indicator applet please??
[14:35] <kraehe_> but with ubuntu I get 'ureadhead main process exit with status 5'
[14:35] <kraehe_> and ubuntu fails to boot
[14:35] <bouma> ryoohki: so the inode has the 775 ?
[14:36] <lfaraone> joaopinto: No, it does not.
[14:36] <MegaHerz> erUSUL: t.y.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> notification area, sorry
[14:36] <ryoohki> bouma: yes
[14:36] <bouma> ryoohki: not the dir entry ?
[14:36] <joaopinto> lfaraone, ok, so is not DNS related
[14:36] <bouma> ryoohki: ah
[14:36] <kraehe_> did anyone tried to do a discless ubuntu 10.4 ?
[14:36] <ryoohki> bouma: the filename is an entry in the directory which is a special file
[14:37] <e-DIO-t> Yo!
[14:37] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: launch gnome-volume-control-applet  ??
[14:37] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: gnome-volume-control-applet
[14:37] <joaopinto> lfaraone, have you played with the firewall recently :) ?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: IdleOne: cheers guys. Was grepping my ps output and couldn't see for looking :)
[14:37] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: yeah, they didn't make it easy to find did they
[14:38] <MegaHerz> erUSUL: its nice!
[14:38] <remrot> lfaraone: seems I've missed some info. what is the error message when you run curl with the -v flag? did you paste it already?
[14:38] <joaopinto> lfaraone, erm, wait, you could have a per user proxy defined which would interfere with curl
[14:38] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: you are wellcome ;)
[14:38] <joaopinto> lfaraone, env | grep -i proxy
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: see, i don't have ALL the answers ;)
[14:38] <ryoohki> bouma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode#POSIX_inode_description
[14:39] <erUSUL> lfaraone: joaopinto 15:10 < erUSUL> lfaraone: maybe you have something on the users envoirment that affects curl ? proxy defined? some other var?
[14:39] <erUSUL> ;P
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> kraehe_: does the boot screen show though?
[14:39] <lfaraone> joaopinto: no.
[14:39] <lfaraone> joaopinto: let me see.
[14:39] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: one thing I did notice, a couple days ago indicator-sound was installed and after a reboot I got back the original "volume control" so now I have the cool looking black and blue one and the plain white one on my panel :/
[14:39] <kraehe_> ActionParsnip, the kernel boots - but it fails somewhere in plywood
[14:39] <grama> hi guys anybody who knows about sony vaio ricoh webcams?
[14:39] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: another fallen idol ... :)
[14:39] <kraehe_> s/plywood/plymouth/
[14:39] <lfaraone> joaopinto: oh, yes, I do. But it works in my GNOME applications :)
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> kraehe_: plymouth you mean?
[14:40] <joaopinto> well, try curl -v as remoteCTRL suggested, to check to which IP is the real connection being done to
[14:40] <Bersam> hi all .. how can i resize my dekstop ?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> kraehe_: tried some boot options?
[14:40] <joaopinto> ops, as remrot suggested
[14:40] <lfaraone> joaopinto: aha, lol, thanks.
[14:40] <kraehe_> ActionParsnip, tried to boot in same way as a discless debian
[14:40] <erUSUL> grama: i once helped someone get one to work... yu have to install some firmware files ...
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: black and blue? I use the showtime theme from bisigi so dont see much of the default stuff
[14:40] <erUSUL> !info r5u870-firmware | grama
[14:40] <ryoohki> does anyone at all have a default lvm on a freshly installed 10.04 system?  i want to know the default lvm name( rootvg?  VolGroup00?  volgroup_0?) and the default name for / and swap( LogVol00 and LogVol01 respectively? root and swap_1?)
[14:40] <bouma> btw, could somone give advice for the following, when i take my lappy to free wifi, eg mcdonalds/others, my installation of bind conflicts and stops me from accessing their 'eula' page, if i /etc/init.d bind stop, will it allow the nameservers from mcd's to populate my /etc/resolve.conf and let me grab some reading for thte train???
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> kraehe_: try some other boot options, see if its nicer. does the image you are booting pass MD5 test?
[14:41] <grama> Bersam, yes you can resize it--> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:41] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: ahh ok, well gnome-volume-control-applet starts up a sound applet that is colored black with blue lines.
[14:41] <erUSUL> grama: i have the deb installed.... i do not remeber where a i got it. google could be of help
[14:41] <IdleOne> on my desktop
[14:42] <joaopinto> bouma, that's not related to bind, bind does not touch your resolv.conf
[14:42] <ryoohki> Guest2511: try that command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:42] <hp00p> trying to delete another version of ubuntu off my pc, there is windows and two other versions of ubuntu on my boot loader -- last time i deleted one it took the boot loader away
[14:42] <hp00p> any solutions ?
[14:42] <grama> ubottu, what can i do then with my webcam Can i use it in skype?
[14:42] <ryoohki> Guest2511: nevermind that - it for a different guest
[14:42] <grama> erUSUL, I've been googling about 3 hours
[14:42] <kraehe_> i'm booting over NFS, ActionParsnip append init=/sbin/init vga=0 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=<IP_ADDRESS>:/zones/algo09 ip=<IP_ADDRESS>:<IP_ADDRESS>:<IP_ADDRESS>:<IP_ADDRESS>:::'off'
[14:42] <joaopinto> bouma, assuming you are using a dhcp config, it's the dhcp client which updates resolve.conf with the data received from a dhcp server
[14:43] <kraehe_> no initrd, ActionParsnip
[14:43] <erUSUL> grama: well r5u870-firmware is a new search term
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i see, funky munky :D
[14:43] <chris8> Hey room... on 9.1 here... I don't have the right user settings to have the option to <View> "All apllications" in System Monitor gui program... What user setting changes do i have to make in User Settings to open this option up?
[14:43] <bouma> joaopinto: well, iit puts a nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> line in /etc/resolv.conf, and prevents the two usual lines from appearing
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> chris8: launch it with gksudo
[14:44] <hp00p> 1,686 people in here ? no one knows how to edit the boot loader ?
[14:44] <remrot> bouma: <IP_ADDRESS> is correct if you ru your own named
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> chris8: if you are launching the app from the menu's then run: alacarte     and edit the entry
[14:44] <MegaHerz> Is Ubuntu printing supposed to be functioning in windows networks?
[14:44] <grama> erUSUL, mine is Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]
[14:44] <erUSUL> grama: and it gives http://www.palmix.org/r5u870-en.html <<<< download only the firmware deb file http://www.palmix.org/download/r5u870_0.10.1_i386.deb
[14:44] <ryoohki> hp00p: i'm in the same boat
[14:44] <chris8> ActionParsnip: What command is the terminal command to run a gui program?
[14:44] <erUSUL> grama: first hit in google
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> MegaHerz: if you share the printer using samba then yes absolutely
[14:44] <ryoohki> hp00p: simple question - no help
[14:44] <hp00p> lol
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> chris8: gksudo is the one you need
[14:45] <IdleOne> !grub2 | hp00p
[14:45] <chris8> jus' * gksudo user settings
[14:45] <ryoohki> hp00p: everyone is using raw partitions - it's 2010!!!!!
[14:45] <llutz> MegaHerz: WIN can print directly to cups, shouldn't need samba
[14:45] <MegaHerz> ActionParsnip: I need to print on a LAN's Windows printer. But when I try to configure it, Ubntu can't browse network and sees no printers. Even when I specify IP directly.
[14:45] <chris8> sorry system monitor
[14:45] <bouma> joaopinto: and so i am, and it works lovely at home, but on occasion eg at free wifi spots, it breaks cause they only let u use their nameservers and i need to disable it, im wondering, will /etc/init.d/bind9 stop, be enough ?
[14:45] <MegaHerz> llutz: I print on Windows
[14:45] <joaopinto> bouma, I have installed bind 1 year ago and it didn't dit that, bind is a server package, it is not expected to change your local config
[14:45] <ryoohki> hp00p: the lvm is not used in a default derver install - huh????
[14:45] <llutz> MegaHerz: oh
[14:45] <chris8> woot thanks Action Parsnip
[14:46] <hp00p> the problem is, im not sure which ubuntu to delete
[14:46] <hp00p> :/
[14:46] <hp00p> i have grub2
[14:46] <ryoohki> hp00p: pastebin
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  try out the 'findsmb' and 'smbtree' commands yet? see if they can see the printer
[14:46] <remrot> bouma: normally, network-manager (or other dhcp-client) changes these entries. you can change them manullally if you want, but they will be overridden on next reboot/reconnect
[14:46] <MegaHerz> What Ubuntu does when I click Browse when adding printer? Why it doens't see them?
[14:47] <MegaHerz> Dr_Willis: ok.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> MegaHerz: use the printer applet and tell the system its a samba printer, the address will be:    hostname/sharenameofprinter    you may need to provide a username and password for authentication. If you account has no password (windows users love no passwords) then make an account which has one as samba NEEDS a password but try connecting without first. There is a test button you can use
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  the gnome 'network browser' feature has always been a litle flakey for me
[14:47] <bouma> joaopinto, ok so you say then since installing bind, when you connect to your isp your prim and sec dns nameservers are populated intto /etc/resolve.conf when your dhcp negotiation is complete ?? it has stoped for me after bind install
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> MegaHerz:  you ould also use the cups interface (or web interface) to see if that sees a printer
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> MegaHerz: the printer will still need a Linux driver so if the printer has no Linux support then you wont be able to print through it
[14:48] <MegaHerz> ActionParsnip: thank you. The problem with password is strange for me. I shared printer on Windows host to Everyone. Why do I need user/password?
[14:49] <sdk_> Ok, I've figured out how to swap the primary display using xrandr.  But now I need to do a fresh install of Catalyst, but even a -purge of amdcccle and removing the prop drivers leaves some config files because when I reinstall I still have the screwed up devices from when I was experimenting.  Any ideas of what config files amd is installing outside of /etc/ati?
[14:49] <sdk_> or how I can find out?
[14:49] <grama> u
[14:50] <MegaHerz> ActionParsnip: When I type address of a printer (as windows share) directly, Ubuntu finds printer, but asks for (not existant) password. When I type IP without service name - Ubuntu finds nothing, claiming something about firewall which is OFF here
[14:50] <n0mad> what is the difference between an up-to-date older version of ubuntu and the latest edition?
[14:50] <onetinsoldier> sdk: perhaps after you've installed again, remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then run the following command --> sudo aticonfig --initial
[14:50] <ryoohki> no one can help me with the default volume group name on 10.04???!!!!!! not a single person is using the lvm!!!
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> MegaHerz: samba expects one usually, try without bt you can add a user called printeruser or somesuch which you can use.
[14:50] <marius_> help with restarting scgi for django on cherokee
[14:50] <marius_> pls
[14:50] <marius_> :(
[14:50] <agronholm> n0mad, the latest version has newer versions of packages
[14:50] <bouma> good night everyone
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> MegaHerz: exactly, you need to use your windows username /password to authenticate
[14:51] <agronholm> n0mad, also some architectural changes (some of which come with the newer kernel)
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> !lvm
[14:51] <sdk_> onetinsoldier: thought I'd done that, but I'll try again, just to be sure.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> MegaHerz: or a username/password of an account which is allowed to print
[14:51] <chris8> Hey ActionParsnip if y'er around: i used gksudo to run System Monitor, but it didn't work... window appeared saying "starting administrative something or other" but just closes w/o starting System Monitor...
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> ryoohki:  Aparently not.
[14:51] <onetinsoldier> sdk_: roger. it might not sure the problem, but worth a try... you'll need to restart X afterwards
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> chris8: yes, you need to tell gksudo the app you want to run, running gksudo on its own doesnt do very much at all
[14:52] <onetinsoldier> sdk: sure = cure
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> chris8: try: gksudo gnome-system-monitor
[14:52] <marius_> how can I restart scgi? or fcgi? restarting cherokee won't help, only rebooting system solves the prob.
[14:52] <chris8> Action: no no no gksudo pops up asking for prgrm name and sudo password, which i fill in... but then nothing
[14:52] <sdk> Bah, crap.  my ISP changed my IP addy this am.  Can't SSH into my system.. Grr.
[14:53] <ryoohki> Dr_Willis: google wasn't any help either
[14:53] <onetinsoldier> sdk: oh, roger. sorry to hear that
[14:53] <marius_> well, help?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> sdk: get a no-ip account and install noip2 on the server, you can then use a name instead and the noip2 client will update the IP every 30 mins (default setting, can be changed)
[14:54] <chris8> Action: the one line command worked in terminal, but with "warning SElinux found but not enabled"
[14:54] <chris8> anything i should care about?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> chris8: can you give the output of: lsb_release -c
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> chris8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631569
[14:55] <lucid_lynx> does anyone know if it is possible to manually make the IRCD-Hybrid server ping a user?
[14:56] <xxploit> 790
[14:57] <chris8> ActionParsnip: lsb_release -c just returns Codemane:     Karmic
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> chris8: ok cool, check the link. It discusses what you are seeing
[14:58] <gualti> hi
[14:58] <chris8> ActionParsnip: and even with the gksudo entry into System Monitor, I still don't have the option of seeing "all processes"--will the forum put me on the right track?
[14:58] <BitEncrypt> how do i install a tar.bz2
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> chris8: should help cure the error, running the app with gksudo should give you access to all
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> BitEncrypt: what is the name of the file and where is it stored?
[14:59] <BitEncrypt> its on my desktop
[14:59] <BitEncrypt> its Vuze
[14:59] <chris8> ActionParsnip: hahahah hmmm makes sense if i resolve a security issue it may work properly... thanks
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> BitEncrypt: can you give the full filename please
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> BitEncrypt:  uncompress it to some directory. run  the binary in the directory for the app.. or read its install docs.
[15:00] <BitEncrypt> Vuze_4404_linux.tar.bz2
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> !p2p
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> or is vuze a torrent client? i forget.
[15:01] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: yes.. it is. formerly Azureus
[15:01] <MegaHerz> ActionParsnip: I wonder, why Windows clients can print without entering any user auth, while Ubuntu, which knows it will print on windows - can not
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> BitEncrypt: wget -q -O- http://archive.getdeb.net/getdeb-archive.key | sudo apt-key add -; sudo echo "deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu lucid-getdeb apps" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vuze
[15:02] <jrib> ActionParsnip: echo will fail
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> jrib: can you clear it up please :)
[15:02] <sunny_> hi
[15:03] <jrib> ActionParsnip: echo foo | sudo tee -a file   is probably the easiest way
[15:03] <logankoester> I'm curious, what is everyone's favorite term emu?
[15:03] <s3r3n1t7> !pol | logankoester
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> logankoester: guake
[15:03] <s3r3n1t7> !poll
[15:04] <logankoester> your bot isn't here, am i breaking the rules :)
[15:04] <logankoester> there we go
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> BitEncrypt: you can add "deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu lucid-getdeb apps"   to /etc/apt/sources.list  if you wish (without the quotes)
[15:04] <Pirate_Hunter> i've just by pure accident deleted my /usr/local/ folder from a server and I have no backups, would I need to reinstall the whole thing?
[15:04] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: it's empty by default
[15:05] <BitEncrypt> thats all jiberish to me
[15:05] <marius_> how can I enter the django channel? I registered the nickname and confirmed. now what?
[15:05] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: so if you haven't copied/installed stuff into /usr/local, it shouldn't harm
[15:05] <agronholm> llutz, umm no it's not
[15:05] <LzrdKing> does kill send signal 15 by default?
[15:05] <llutz> agronholm: some empty dirs
[15:05] <onetinsoldier> LzrdKing: yep
[15:05] <BitEncrypt> im reading the readme doc right now
[15:06] <agronholm> llutz, at least python keeps its packages there
[15:06] <llutz> agronholm: then they are broken
[15:07] <marius_> how can I enter the django channel? I registered the nickname and confirmed. now what?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: yep its empty with one symlink in there
[15:07] <Appl6> Pirate_Hunter: I have just empty directories in my /usr/local/.  I think you're more than fine.
[15:07] <agronholm> llutz, false alarm, you were right
[15:07] <llutz> !fhs > agronholm
[15:08] <JayX> why cant I make a directorey??  >>
[15:08] <JayX> mkdir ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins/
[15:08] <JayX> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/virustb/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins/': No such file or directory
[15:08] <sipior> JayX: try adding the "-p" switch to mkdir.
[15:08] <_fynn> hi.. i'm trying to set up networking in my virtual box.. i set up a tap0 device on the host and configured vbox to bridge over the tap0 device, everything works fine like that.  now i'd like to use the host's internet connection.. how do i do that?
[15:09] <JayX> sipior,    so  " mkdir -p ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins/"
[15:09] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, ActionParsnip, Appl6: thanks for the info will just make the directory again, that completed frightened me
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> JayX: what is the output of: file ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox
[15:09] <sipior> JayX: yep.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> JayX: the other dirs must exist, unless you use the -p switch
[15:11] <JayX> ActionParsnip,  ahhh!  ok .. thanks.  thanks sipior
[15:13] <JayX> Why does my RhytmnBox always want to find the codec "Windows media Audio Decoder" and never finds it?
[15:13] <JayX> ActionParsnip,  ^^
[15:13] <gartral> i hate tarballs.. tar -x ./Foo/bar/bin.tar ./Foo/bar/ SHOULD extract a tar.gz too ./Foo/bar.. yes?
[15:14] <patdk-wk> gartral, nope
[15:14] <joaopinto> gardar, no
[15:14] <gartral> ./Foo/bar/bin.tar.gz
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> gartral: tar zxvf /Foo/bar/bin.tar
[15:14] <patdk-wk>  tar -x only does .tar
[15:14] <patdk-wk> not .tar.gz
[15:14] <llutz> gartral: to .
[15:14] <erUSUL> gartral: no
[15:14] <joaopinto> padeBoi, not really, -x handles .gz and friends
[15:14] <sipior> gardar: use the -C switch to specify a destination path.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> gartral: sorry, tar.gz
[15:14]  * gartral thuds head on desk "Ohh.. ok"
[15:14] <Oer> zxvf remember that easy finger-riddle...
[15:14] <erUSUL> gartral: -C ./Foo/bar/
[15:14] <Guest8606> Do I need to register in order to change my nick?
[15:14] <joaopinto> gartral, man tar
[15:14] <erUSUL> gartral: read man page
[15:15] <sipior> gardar: apologies, mistell...
[15:15] <gartral> i did.. it wasnt all that clear
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> isnt there an app that looks at the file and uses the right options, i forget its name
[15:15] <JayX> Guest8606,  nOPE  JUSTtype  "/nick MyName"   witoujht the qoutes
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> it does exist though, Dr_Willis goes on about it
[15:15] <Jimmy`> I tried that earlier, lol. Thank you though JayX.
[15:15] <sipior> ActionParsnip: pax?
[15:15] <gartral> joaopinto: it is a .gz
[15:15] <sho__> ubuntu-cn
[15:16] <erUSUL> patdk-wk: x on modern tar extracts all the tar compresed formats
[15:16] <joaopinto> gardar, tar -x handles tar.gz
[15:16] <JayX> jimmy` welcome.. take the " ` " OFF FROM YOUR NAME :s
[15:16] <Guest92396> Oh come on..
[15:16] <joaopinto> ops, gartral
[15:16] <BluesKaj> patdk-wk, use unp , it's a universal extractor , works with all compressed files
[15:16] <patdk-wk> erUSUL, heh, it doesn't say so in the manual, but then I still have freebsd 4.x systems :)
[15:16] <erUSUL> patdk-wk: :)
[15:16] <xplunt> im trying to make my way through some tutorials and dont understand the uses of -v and -i
[15:16] <Juniksz> Hi! Someone knows a good, workable CLI messenger program?
[15:16] <patdk-wk> BluesKaj, why? one more thing to install on hundreds of systems, if it will even compile on them :)
[15:17] <erUSUL> Juniksz: irssi + biltbee ?
[15:17] <gartral> Juniksz: Finch!
[15:17] <Exposure596> hi
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> sipior: its something like uncomp or somesuch, cant remember
[15:17] <llutz> ActionParsnip: "unp"
[15:17] <awizz> ?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> well, saves the trouble of using a long command , but to each his own I guess
[15:17] <BitEncrypt> actionparsnip: can we go more in depth on a private channel
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> llutz: thats it :D
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> BitEncrypt: sure, PM me
[15:18] <LzrdKing> just how bad is it to simply unplug a running ubuntu box?
[15:18] <Juniksz> thanks for the tips!
[15:18] <joaopinto> LzrdKing, it depends on what the box is doing
[15:18] <jramos> hello
[15:18] <patdk-wk> LzrdKing, depends on hundreds of things :)
[15:18] <patdk-wk> normally, fine
[15:18] <patdk-wk> but it *could* destroy itself
[15:19] <LzrdKing> it was probably not doing much of anything
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: same as an OS
[15:19] <patdk-wk> I would say 99% of the time, perfectly ok :)
[15:19] <zetheroo> I installed kubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu Lucid but at the login window I cannot find any way to select KDE instead of GNOME
[15:19] <xplunt> got a quick definition question can i pm someone?
[15:19] <joaopinto> xplunt, ask on the channel
[15:19] <arand> LzrdKing: Hard poweroff? Avoid it.
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: if the HDD is active you can damage the data, the hardware generally wont like it but once should be ok thou
[15:19] <guntbert> !pm | xplunt
[15:20] <n0mad> is there a graphical firewall that you can do port forwarding with?
[15:20] <gartral> how do i reload the system list of installed shared libs??
[15:20] <gartral> n0mad: fwmaker
[15:20] <xplunt> well im having trouble understanding the uses of -i and -v
[15:20]  * patdk-wk needs to get out of this channel, before the whole work day is wasted
[15:20] <LzrdKing> my wife unplugged the power strip that my fileserver and router were plugged into
[15:20] <term_oldcomp1> ? having difficulty with a drive that won't show and can't access.  shows as mounted when I try to mount it under Disk Utility (which shows it unmounted)
[15:20] <zetheroo> anyone know how to change from gnome to kde from the login window?
[15:21] <IdleOne> zetheroo: you should have a Session button
[15:21] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, look in the menu
[15:21] <simmel> In a package in the Depends section, is 1.9-1su1 higher than 1.9? Should 1.9-1su1 match when I use (>=1.9)?
[15:21] <roberto__> how can I set my machine to request a specific ip address?
[15:21] <zetheroo> IdleOne: there is none
[15:21] <guntbert> xplunt: with which program?
[15:21] <gartral> zetheroo: enter username in gdm, and before you enter pass, you should have access too a session button
[15:21] <dtcrshr> roberto__, for what specific?
[15:21] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: which menu?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  look at the bottom/menus
[15:21] <gartral> zetheroo: it only comes up after you've given a username
[15:21] <Juniksz> Hello! I've got a problem. I made another panel on the top (similar as the gnome) And the problem is: I can't see this panel on the cube's (compiz fusion) other side.
[15:22]  * gartral needs to disengage
[15:22] <zetheroo> gartral: my username is always there
[15:22] <xplunt> im using a tutorial on and its trying to help me make a alias in my batch.rc file and wanting to use the -i and -v commands
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> KDM uses a little button, gdm has a panel thing at the bottom
[15:22] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: there is only shutdown menu and accessibility prefs
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> xplunt:  you mean the -i and -v options to alias ?
[15:22] <xplunt> yes
[15:22] <roberto__> dtcrshr: my machine is supposed to be getting asssigned a specific address from the router, based on MAC address. but it is not doing it-- it was with OsX. I'm wondering if I can send a request for a specific ip address during dhcp negotiation
[15:22] <gartral> xplunt: anything with a hash (-) in front of it is a switch.. not a command
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  enter a name... Look at the panel should be a menu then
[15:22] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, look around you'll see an icon to right click and choose , if you have gnome kde and gnome installed
[15:23] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: so enter a name in the "other" feild?
[15:23] <guntbert> xplunt: -i and -v are not commands, they are switches for a command but they can mean very different things -- what are you trying to do?
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  i  got a pull down/pullup menu that shows up when i click on a username in my list
[15:23] <xplunt> when i looked up -v it said verbose and -i interactive but im lost after that
[15:23] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: that is what I used to be able to do ... yeah ... not there anymore
[15:23] <guntbert> xplunt: what program?
[15:23] <xplunt> the tutorial told me thats what they stand for
[15:23] <xplunt> im using gedit to work on the batch.rc file
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> xplunt:  a tutorial to do what exactly?
[15:23] <lydia> ola
[15:24] <roberto__> !pt
[15:24] <roberto__> oi Lydia
[15:24] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, did you just upgrade your OS?
[15:24] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: if I click on my username it automatically logs in ... I don't have to enter my password
[15:24] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: no "just" but recently
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:   You got autolog enabled? hmm.
[15:24] <xplunt> just learing linux in jeneral and its trying to teach basic commands  link: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l6/lesson6a.html
[15:24] <zetheroo> not*
[15:25] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: yes
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> xplunt:  somecommand -v   or somecommand -i
[15:25] <xplunt> yes
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:   You may want to set it where you got a delay befor it autologs in
[15:25] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: I guess I can switch it off ... :-/
[15:25] <term_oldcomp1> sorry guys, x crashed.  did someone answer how to fix my issue with the drive mount/unmount?
[15:25] <mawst> Dude Opera Gadgets are kind nice
[15:25] <mawst> :P
[15:26] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, look in the package manager and look for kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[15:26] <mawst> Widgets
[15:26] <mawst> whatever
[15:26] <mawst> :P
[15:26] <FloodBot3> mawst: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <Pici> xplunt: What exactly are you putting in the .bashrc file, what are you expecting, and what is happening instead?
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> mawst:  issue i have with a lot of the opera/firefox/whatever gadgets is theres like 5000 gadgets and 4000 or them seem to be specific radio players for some station i never want to listen to. :)
[15:26] <roberto__> !dhcp | roberto__
[15:26] <mawst> hehe
[15:26] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: what? why should I do that? ... I already know they are both installed
[15:27] <gartral> Dr_Willis: what about Facebook quicklink apps?
[15:27] <guntbert> xplunt: as written in that tutorial: cp -i -v makes cp (the command) ask before it overwrites things and more verbose (it tells you what it is doing)
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> gartral:   I let all my crops die in farmvillebook... err. i mean facebook
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ok, zetheroo have it your way
[15:27] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: how do i make it so I am asked for my login password on login?
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  login settings icon in the settings menu.
[15:27] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: ha ...
[15:28] <xplunt> so verbose is telling you more info and -i is making it ask for you to do a action?
[15:28] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: settings menu?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  where all the otehr 10000 admin settings icons are at.
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> well perhaps 50 here. :)
[15:29] <guntbert> xplunt: please type man cp (at the CLI) and read that, you can leave the man pages by pressing q
[15:29] <xplunt> thanks
[15:29] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: ok ... got it ... Login Screen under System > Administration  ... thanks
[15:29] <gartral> Dr_Willis: It's been a VERY long time since i litterally fell out of the chair laughing in a funny-spasm, mass kudos to you my friend!
[15:29] <term_oldcomp1> ? is there a way to connect skydrive as a mounted drive?
[15:29] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: will try it out again ...
[15:29] <guntbert> xplunt: what was said above goes only for cp in exactly this way, with other commands it may be different
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Only 21 admin items there for me.. the Users settings menu has  a whole screen+more past the bootom
[15:30] <kassah> Can anyone recommend a good page layout program? Something that I can make simple brochures and business cards in?
[15:30] <zetheroo> hmm
[15:30] <DART> ola
[15:30] <zetheroo> do i have to reboot to have that change take effect?
[15:30] <DART> eooo
[15:30] <sudobash> I'm running 10.04 with ATi Radeon HD 4200 it seems to be working very well, compiz is working well with cube but in compiz config manager I am not able turn on deformation or 3d windows, I am using the FGLRX driver supplied in the Hardware Drivers Manager
[15:31] <ryoohki> is anyone using the default lvm on a fresh 10.04 install?
[15:31] <DART> eooo¡¡¡¡¡
[15:31] <sipior> kassah: scribus is perfect for that sort of thing.
[15:31] <roberto__> can I safely edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf --without conflict from the gnome network thingie
[15:31] <zetheroo> again was not asked for my login password ..
[15:31] <joaopinto> ryoohki, no, I don't recommend using lvm on a desktop
[15:31] <ryoohki> joaopinto: and why not?
[15:31] <joaopinto> roberto__, it should be safe
[15:31] <roberto__> I only ask because I don't see my configuration options from that program in the dhclent.conf
[15:31] <kassah> sipior... awsome.. thanks.. will give it a run =)
[15:31] <roberto__> joaopinto: thanks
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> man - i could of done a server install in virtualbox by this time. :) and seen what lvm stuff it does
[15:31] <DART> ola
[15:31] <DART> loa
[15:32] <DART> ola
[15:32] <joaopinto> ryanakca, because LVM adds management complexity, and not much value on a desktop configuration
[15:32] <roberto__> !pt | DART
[15:32] <DART> la
[15:32] <joaopinto> ops, was for ryoohki ^
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> dosent redhat default to a lvm setup? or was that some other disrto..
[15:32] <ryoohki> joaopinto: not it adds flexibility and control
[15:32] <DART> ola
[15:32] <scq> Hello, i am using Amarok in Lynx. I can see tray icon visible but when i click on it, the basic functions of the tray have improper display. When i log in KDE, Amarok works perfectly with proper tray functions display but why not in GNOME?
[15:32] <joaopinto> ryoohki, it hads the fliexbility and control that you need on a server, not on a desktop
[15:32] <ryoohki> joaopinto: it's not harder in any way
[15:33] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: logged back in and was not asked for my login password
[15:33] <guntbert> joaopinto: I cannot follow your argument (lvm) either
[15:33] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: do I have to reboot to make it take effect?
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  you did set it for a delay?
[15:33] <joaopinto> ryanakca, it is more complex from a device management perspective, compared to raw partitions
[15:33] <ryoohki> joaopinto: there is no diff from a server to a desktop except the graphics interface
[15:33] <remrot> imho, LVM is useless on a desktop, how do oyu use it?
[15:34] <joaopinto> ryoohki, uh ? my desktop systems don't have external storage or SANs, and they don't get their disk changed/replaced frequently :)
[15:34] <ryoohki> joaopinto: there is no reason to want flexibility on a server and not on a desktop
[15:34] <scq> Hello, i am using Amarok in Lynx. I can see tray icon visible but when i click on it, the basic functions of the tray have improper display. When i log in KDE, Amarok works perfectly with proper tray functions display but why not in GNOME?
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  perhaps 'sudo service gdm restart'
[15:34] <sudobash> I'm running 10.04 with ATi Radeon HD 4200 it seems to be working very well, compiz is working well with cube but in compiz config manager I am not able turn on deformation or 3d windows, I am using the FGLRX driver supplied in the Hardware Drivers Manager
[15:34] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: I selected the option that says "Show the screen for choosing who will log in" as opposed to "Login as USER automatically"
[15:34] <joaopinto> ryoohki, comparing desktop use to server use is non sense :)
[15:34] <ryoohki> joaopinto: no usb hds? never fill the drive and add another one?
[15:34] <roberto__> wish me luck on the dhcp client :)
[15:34] <grama> hello people:) anybody who runs itunes under wine? I've got some serious errors my screen got black for a while? any suggestions?
[15:35] <ryoohki> joaopinto: you are being dogmatic - servers are simpler - no graphics card...
[15:35] <joaopinto> ryoohki, no, the disks I have from 3 years ago suite well my needs, if I need to change I can afford the downtime, unlike on a server
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | grama
[15:35] <remrot> ryoohki: why should I add an USB drive to an internal HDD? it doesn't make sense...
[15:35] <scq> Hello, i am using Amarok in Lynx. I can see tray icon visible but when i click on it, the basic functions of the tray have improper display. When i log in KDE, Amarok works perfectly with proper tray functions display but why not in GNOME? Can anyone help here??
[15:35] <riktking> have got an issue with the MOTD, keeps displaying its self twice, any solution?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ryoohki: only some versions of itunes work with some versions of wine
[15:35] <joaopinto> ryoohki, server is a role, not a specification, there are plenty of servers with graphical cards
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> sudobash: hmm, i don't know. i can tell you i have a 4850 HD and working here. i can enable those options. don't know if it makes any difference or not that i have a 4850
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> riktking:  you could do a 'touch .hushlogin'  and not see it at all :)
[15:36] <sudobash> HD 4200 is a supped up 3200 I think
[15:36] <ryoohki> remrot: i have used it to move lvs around
[15:36] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: ok the option is actually in Users and Groups ... now I will be asked for a password on login
[15:36] <remrot> ryoohki: if you want to extend an existing volume, you had to resize the filesystem too! Do youreally use ONE filesystem on an internal and USB connected disk
[15:36] <joaopinto> server and desktop are completely different use cases, they have different requirements from an operational perspective
[15:36] <riktking> Dr_Willis: i like having it tho for when i ssh into it
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  what release are you using?  heh..
[15:36] <grama> ubottu, thnx :P
[15:36] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: Lucid
[15:36] <scq> Dr_Willis?
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  you actually DISABLED the users password then in user/griups?
[15:37] <roberto__> it worked! :)
[15:37] <ryoohki> joaopinto: but generally that's the main differnce
[15:37] <remrot> ryoohki: LVM adds complexity with almost no benefit. On my desktop, I want to use ALL available space from the beginning. I don't want to keep mini-partitions to add them later and risk my existing filesystems by resizing it...
[15:37] <ryoohki> joaopinto: that and audio
[15:37] <scq> Dr_Willis???
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> scq:  hmm?
[15:38] <impi> hey guys, i would like to know how to install somethign with apt but NOT let it remove something?
[15:38] <impi> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:38] <impi>   libdb4.6-dev
[15:38] <joaopinto> ryanakca, sorry but you are completely wrong, a server is not related to the hardware, not on the context we are speaking
[15:38] <ryoohki> remrot: no risk - i had no trouble
[15:38] <impi> i dont want that removed?
[15:38] <roberto__> lol who was Dr Willis anyway? keeps reminding me of some sit-com
[15:38] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: upon installation of Ubuntu you can select whether or not you want to have the system log in automatically - I chose yes for auto login
[15:38] <joaopinto> there are plenty of servers with desktop hardware
[15:38] <scq> Dr Willis: Hello, i am using Amarok in Lynx. I can see tray icon visible but when i click on it, the basic functions of the tray have improper display. When i log in KDE, Amarok works perfectly with proper tray functions display but why not in GNOME?
[15:38] <olvap> hi, i made a unique index on a table, when i try to created a new record, with the same index, i get an error(good, cause i dont want to have it), but i get the agly error screen. how could i change this, to show the view.
[15:38] <ryoohki> joaopinto: duh - of course
[15:39] <olvap> wrong chanel
[15:39] <ryoohki> joaopinto: servers generally don't provide a multimedia console
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> scq:  I dont use amarok at all.  with kde specific apps theres often features in KDE that dont  work all the ways in GNome. not supriseing.
[15:39] <ryoohki> joaopinto: a cell phone can be a sever...
[15:39] <remrot> ryoohki: just because it worked for you, doesn't mean that it always works!
[15:39] <sipior> joaopinto: ryoohki: gentlemen, perhaps you could take this discussion elsewhere? it has drifted rather off-topic.
[15:39] <remrot> sipior: ack
[15:40] <Dr_Willis>  take it to #ubuntu-server :)
[15:40] <obscurant1st_> when i open virtual box it saying an update is available, but why update-manager not showing that?
[15:40] <term_oldcomp1> ? any simple way to fix a drive showing as mounted when it's not mounted?
[15:40] <obscurant1st_> :o
[15:40] <joaopinto> Dr_Willis, lol
[15:40] <Pici> #ubuntu-server is also a support channel.
[15:40] <nak_> please how can i read escape sequences with curses functions ?
[15:40] <ryoohki> remrot: well don't go from fat16 to ext3 because all that complexity and breakabilty is gonna get you
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> obscurant1st_:  becuse the package manager vbersions have not beenupdated.. the program is checking the vbox homepage versions
[15:40] <joaopinto> ryoohki, please stop, go offtopic please
[15:41] <Pici> !ot
[15:41] <obscurant1st_> Dr_Willis, oh, i thought there is something missing in my sources.list
[15:41] <obscurant1st_> :)
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> obscurant1st_:  there might be some alterantive  vbox ppas/repos yu could use instead
[15:41] <nak_> all: please how can i read escape sequences with curses functions ?
[15:42] <sudobash> is there a way to check and see why cube deformation and 3d windows are not working, when it was working on 9.10?
[15:42] <joaopinto> obscurant1st_, the virtualbox from repositories does not auto-update
[15:42] <onetinsoldier> impi: what are you trying to install that makes it want to remove libdb4.6-dev?
[15:42] <remrot> ryoohki: nonsense
[15:42] <mark___> can someone help me get my sound to work?
[15:42] <roberto__> mark___: maybe
[15:42] <obscurant1st_> Dr_Willis, after some time my update-manager will show this update right? i mean if it shows after somedays, i dont hv any problem.
[15:42] <mark___> roberto__: i dont know what the problem is
[15:42] <mark___> tried the tutorial
[15:42] <roberto__> mark___: show me the link to that tutorial please
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> obscurant1st_:  ubuntu dosent do rolling updates like that.. the versions of the packages in the repos.. will stay that version untill the next release and you upgrade.
[15:43] <mark___> !sound | roberto__
[15:43] <obscurant1st_> joaopinto, actually till the last update for Vbox it was showed by update-manager
[15:43] <joaopinto> obscurant1st_, oh, I was refering to the vbox notification
[15:43] <joaopinto> not to update-manager
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> obscurant1st_:  if you want the latest - use the latest from the vbox homepage. or find a ppa/repo thats updated more often
[15:43] <roberto__> mark___: troubleshooting right? are you getting a fail anywhere in it?
[15:43] <joaopinto> vbox does have self update check, which is disabled on the repository version
[15:43] <obscurant1st_> Dr_Willis, but sometime before it used to come automatically, i remember that
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> obscurant1st_:  'clamav' has similer things where it wants you toupdate.. but the new versions are not in the repos
[15:44] <Knightlust> hi, quick question. will crontab work even if the user who created a crontab entry run if logged out or logged in from another account?
[15:44] <joaopinto> obscurant1st_, only critical fixes are provided after the release
[15:44] <joaopinto> newer versions do not land on the repository
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> obscurant1st_:  theres also the backports repo
[15:44] <impi> onetinsoldier, hey dude...i had to compile php from source so that my gd can work and make reflections, so i give this command: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot and it tells me: Unmet build dependencies: apache2-prefork-dev - when i install apache-prefork it wants to remove libdb4.6-dev and i need this too..
[15:44] <sipior> Knightlust: yep, sure will.
[15:44] <joaopinto> Knightlust, crontab is not login aware, you can't run console based apps
[15:44] <punkmexic> i have many distros in a usb, i created a casper file of 2 gigas now i need to enter  a command to indicate wich distro will be using casper persistent file can someone show me how to do it???
[15:45] <joaopinto> crontab jobs always run from a logless process
[15:45] <obscurant1st_> Dr_Willis, oh, k i ithink i disabled those
[15:45] <Knightlust> i see, thanks sipior, joaopinto :)
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  the pendrivelinux web site may have sone info on that.
[15:45] <chripher> can somebody help me to automount ssh
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> chripher:  you mean via 'sshfs' ?
[15:45] <roberto__> mark___: actually, let me just try to do it by hand, I'm not familiar with that toot.  please do "wget -O alsa-info.sh  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh" and paste the link it provides
[15:46] <chripher> Dr_Willis: yes
[15:46] <onetinsoldier> impi: i see. hmmm
[15:46] <punkmexic> Dr_Willis, i am in that website but doesnt explain about the command
[15:46] <roberto__> mark___:  ./alsa-info.sh after the wget
[15:46] <remrot> isn't sshfs using FUSE?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> chripher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  at what website?
[15:46] <punkmexic> You can boot Ubuntu and remixes with persistence by using our Casper-RW Creator script to create a Casper-RW file on your USB device. One Distro can use casper persistence only!
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> remrot: yuo can use fsta, its outlined in the sshfsdoc :)
[15:46] <punkmexic> pendrivelinux
[15:47] <punkmexic> i used that mentioned script
[15:47] <onetinsoldier> impi: i'm looking. don't know for sure if i can help much though
[15:47] <impi> onetinsoldier, uhm i did do a configure, make and make install and this worked fine.....BUT my apache doesnt serve php files, so i did go into mods-enabled php5.load and replaced the path to libphp5.so but that didnt work..
[15:47] <punkmexic> but after using the casper creator i dont know what to du
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> sshfs fstab example line --> sshfs#myname@www.myhome.com:/home/myname    /mnt/sshfs/homebox    fuse    comment=sshfs,noauto,users,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,allow_other,reconnect,transform_symlinks,BatchMode=yes 0 0
[15:47] <chripher> ActionParsnip: done that but I do not want to do it every time I boot
[15:47] <remrot> ActionParsnip: ahh, learned sth. new again ;)
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  you have to alter the bootloader configs to give the proper artuments to the disrto you are booting.
[15:47] <punkmexic> yes
[15:48] <punkmexic> but i dont know how to give the proper argument
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> chripher: then make a script to run the mount command and you can run it when you need to mount it
[15:48] <impi> so i after the command dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot complete i can do: cd .. && dpkg -i php5-gd_5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb which shoudl then fix everything
[15:48] <punkmexic> it must be something simple.
[15:48] <chripher> ActionParsnip: Dr_Willis fstab example sounds better
[15:48] <mark___> roberto__: i dont think it provided a link
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430312  sshfs automount
[15:48] <roberto__> mark___:  ./alsa-info.sh after the wget
[15:49] <alejandrabob> ola
[15:49] <remrot> chripher: it's actually on that website too, I've just read it ;)
[15:50] <alejandrabob> ola
[15:50] <mark___> roberto__: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=61eafa31c522f79780a3bd2001757312c704803f
[15:50] <chripher> remrot: I see it now
[15:50] <n0mad> can anyone tell me how to get firestarter's "forward service" to show up? its the last section under "Policy", but it's grayed out.
[15:50] <chripher> remrot: is that line enough or should I do any more tricks
[15:50] <mark___> that's a cool tool
[15:51] <ryan_46> !log
[15:51] <mark___> i'm tgoing to relog to see if adding myself to the sound group worked
[15:51] <onetinsoldier> impi: well, i can't see why apache2-prefork-dev wants to remove libdb4.6-dev
[15:51] <remrot> chripher: I think that line should be sufficient. Do a "sudo mount -a" afterwards to sse if it works
[15:51] <onetinsoldier> impi: are you running lucid 10.04?
[15:51] <n0mad> can anyone tell me how to get firestarter's "forward service" to show up? its the last section under "Policy", but it's grayed out.
[15:52] <chripher> remrot: I need to access<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/home/user
[15:52] <mark___> roberto__: get my link?
[15:52] <impi> onetinsoldier, im not sure, it's a box installed at hetzner germany - Linux live 2.6.32-22-server
[15:52] <roberto__> mark___: yup
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> Mounting a Home over ssh? egads. :)
[15:52] <impi> onetinsoldier, how would i say to not remove packages though?
[15:52] <roberto__> mark___:  try aplay -plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav and see if you get sound
[15:52] <onetinsoldier> impi: well a 2.6.32-22 kernel version sounds like lucid 10.04
[15:53] <mark___> roberto__: invalid option -- 'p;
[15:53] <mark___> 'p'
[15:53] <roberto__> mark___: oop -- aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav and see if you get sound
[15:54] <Alkaizer> Hello
[15:54] <klask> Hello
[15:54] <remrot> I don't see a password in the example. Guess it works only with pubkey?
[15:54] <mark___> roberto__: nothing
[15:54] <roberto__> mark no error?
[15:54] <Alkaizer> first time user of ubuntu :)
[15:55] <roberto__> mark___: is your audio equipment plugged in ?
[15:55] <onetinsoldier> impi: install the apache2-prefork-dev and let it remove the libdb4.6-dev package for the moment
[15:55] <mark___> no error, no so und
[15:55] <mark___> roberto__: yes
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  line from my  syslinux text.cfg has a casper option ---> append noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash --
[15:55] <soundray> Alkaizer: welcome. Do you have a question?
[15:55] <roberto__> mark___: ok well there are two outs so ..
[15:55] <roberto__> mark___: oop -- aplay -D plughw:0,2 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[15:55] <mark___> what is oop?
[15:55] <onetinsoldier> impi: that way you'll have both .deb packages on the system in apt's archive
[15:55] <roberto__> mark___: it was a mistike -- "oops"
[15:56] <mark___> ok that's what i thought
[15:56] <roberto__> mark___:  just do that aplay command with the new hardware address :D
[15:56] <Alkaizer> um yes actually i was hoping i could get a brief walk through on some things i may need to know
[15:56] <punkmexic> where should i type that Dr_Willis
[15:56] <roberto__> mark___: if you get sound on neither of them, I have a couple other thoughts but I'm kinda hoping that one works
[15:56] <ori> Does anybody know the process for chromium browser?
[15:56] <soundray> Alkaizer: feel free to ask, one question at a time pls
[15:57] <mark___> only change was 0,0 -> 0,2?
[15:57] <remrot> chripher: does it work? your line shoud start with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>..."
[15:57] <Guest51114> hi..m using ubuntu 10.04 , m trying to connect to i'net thru my 3G USB MOdem via WVDIAL...but it wont connect...any help appreciated
[15:57] <roberto__> mark___: right
[15:57] <ori> Does anybody know the process for chromium, or firefox  browser?
[15:57] <panfist_> i have two servers...one internet facing server that's used for development, and another private server on the other side of an air gap. is there an easy way to transfer package updates from the public server to the private?
[15:57] <chripher> remrot: sshfs#chripher@jade.feralhosting.com:/home/chripher /home/chripher fuse defaults,idmap=user 0 0
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  in the syslinux configs files on the usb drive. ' text.cfg ' it might allready be in there
[15:57] <mark___> roberto__: audio open error: No such device
[15:57] <roberto__> mark___: if you look at aplay -l -- that tells you the hw devices you have
[15:57] <mark___> ok
[15:58] <Alkaizer> im having some trouble with compiz fusion working
[15:58] <mark___> roberto__: i'm looking at it
[15:58] <roberto__> mark___: well geez I'm looking right at it, it says card 0 device 2 is the PT playback
[15:58] <remrot> chripher: looks good! should work with pubkey imho
[15:58] <klask> Hello everybody, I've got a questions, Hope I do it right... I've got an ubunut-server system and accidently executed "rm *" while my working directory was / (i intended to delete some logfiles...). It didnt delete that much since rm does not delete directories by default, but since then, it seems that my root user has no rights at all. I can see that for example /bin/ls is there but if i want to execute it, it says"file not found".
[15:58] <klask> to restore that?
[15:58] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | panfist_
[15:58] <roberto__> mark___: are you outputting to sp/dif or to analog outs?
[15:58] <chripher> remrot: what?
[15:58] <mark___> roberto__: \yes i see that
[15:58] <punkmexic> here syslinux.cfg
[15:58] <punkmexic> __??
[15:59] <panfist_> thanks
[15:59] <mark___> roberto__: i believe it's just analog
[15:59] <erUSUL> !aptproxy | panfist_
[15:59] <panfist_> !offline
[15:59] <Guest51114> m using ubuntu 10.04, trying to connect using wvdial to internet via my 3g usb modem.help needed
[15:59] <mark___> roberto__: why would it say no such device?
[15:59] <roberto__> mark___: launch alsamixer -c 0
[15:59] <roberto__> mark___: not sure yet, sorry
[16:00] <sipior> klask: this a 64-bit system by any chance?
[16:00] <chripher> remrot: I usaly mount it into /media/feral
[16:00] <klask> yes it is
[16:00] <chripher> remrot: still right ?
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  the pendrivelinux.com site mentions a 'persistent' option that may need to be on the line also.
[16:00] <punkmexic> here syslinux.cfg it says three lines default grub  label grub and kernel grub.exe
[16:00] <soundray> klask: is that literally what it says? Or does it say "command not found"?
[16:00] <klask> running software raid 1
[16:00] <roberto__> mark___: if the master is at 0 or there is another one at 0, turn the volume up
[16:00] <klask> it says "directory or file not found"
[16:00] <sipior> klask: restore the symlink between /lib and /lib64: ln -s /lib /lib64
[16:01] <punkmexic> all my lines says persistent
[16:01] <roberto__> mark___: I'm looking at your alsa info for details about the controls
[16:01] <sipior> klask: assuming ln works...
[16:01] <punkmexic> wanna see my menu.lst Dr_Willis
[16:01] <riktking> im having real problems with my motd
[16:01] <klask> hehe it doesn't "-bash: /bin/ln: No such file or directory"
[16:01] <mark___> roberto__: the only ones at 0 were 3D Contr and 3DContr
[16:01] <riktking> keeps puttin dtuff in that i dont want
[16:01] <mark___> roberto__: turned those up
[16:01] <remrot> chripher: it doesn't matter where you mount it, just enter the correct path and try calling "mount -a"!
[16:01] <riktking> im having real problems with my motd, it keeps regenerating with stuff ive taken uot, where do i configure it
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  the usbs i got are using syslinux, you will need to adapt the line for grub2 ussage. the Importnat option for persistent use of teh casper file IS the 'persistent' option  the docs say
[16:02] <Avasz> how do i install java?
[16:02] <roberto__> mark___: ok, retry aplay at hw:0,0
[16:02] <klask> sipior: i have acces to pwd, echo, cd haven't figured out more
[16:02] <sipior> klask: try "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib ln -s /lib /lib64"
[16:02] <chripher> remrot: shoud idmap be my username or just user
[16:02] <mark___> roberto__: just did that, nothing
[16:02] <Avasz> !java
[16:02] <mark___> roberto__: my exact command was -- aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[16:02] <roberto__> mark___: I'm sorry, I'm not doing so hot here :P
[16:03] <mark___> roberto__: it says playing, but nothing happens
[16:03] <roberto__> mark___: try going to #alsa and give them the alsa info link you generated for me earlier
[16:03] <klask> sipior: "-bash: /bin/ln: No such file or directory"
[16:03] <punkmexic> Dr_Willis, this is my menu.lst see if you can tell me where enable the persistent option http://paste.ubuntu.com/432262/
[16:03] <remrot> chripher: it's an option, don't change it
[16:03] <mark___> roberto__: maybe i'm making some dumb mistake but i'm pretty sure i havent changed my headphones or anything since they worked in windows
[16:03] <mark___> the volume is up
[16:03] <roberto__> mark___: there's no mute button on the amp or anything?
[16:04] <Guest65958> have man?
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  look for a line similer to this.. be sure theres a persistent in the middle of it " noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed "
[16:04] <mark___> roberto__: no i'm using headphones, no switch on them
[16:04] <mark___> roberto__: just a volume control, which is up
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  your lines allready have the entry
[16:04] <sipior> klask: might just be simplest to boot from a live cd, and fix the symlinks you blew away
[16:04] <mark___> roberto__: thanks for you help, i think i have to give up on this one hehe
[16:04] <zico> ?
[16:05] <punkmexic> maybe i should erase the word persistent in the other distros?
[16:05] <punkmexic> onlly leave persistent line in the distro i want?
[16:05] <Guest65958> which fonts is the best?
[16:05] <roberto__> mark___: under system preferences sound - the outgoing speakers lists your card?
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  you are booting the ISO files from grub?
[16:05] <roberto__> mark___: and you don't see Silenciar checked or anything?
[16:06] <roberto__> mark___: sorry, Mute
[16:06] <Guest65958> which fonts is the best?
[16:06] <mark___> roberto__: yes my card is there
[16:06] <punkmexic> yes
[16:06] <chripher> remrot: perm dinied
[16:06] <klask> sipior: so restoring the symlink lib64 to lib should do the trick? I didn't try to shut down the system because i can't log in and have only a ssh session alive...
[16:06] <punkmexic> im booting iso files
[16:06] <Guest65958> which fonts is the best?
[16:06] <Guest65958> which fonts is the best?
[16:06] <Guest65958> which fonts is the best?
[16:06] <FloodBot3> Guest65958: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  im not sure the iso files can use a perisstant save file
[16:06] <mark___> roberto__: nothing is muted
[16:06] <punkmexic> ok
[16:07] <roberto__> mark___: best suggestion I have for you is -- move those headphones to the different outputs from your card while playing music -- if it thinks it is playing, it's gotta be playing somewhere :P
[16:07] <chripher> remrot: you still here
[16:07] <punkmexic> of if iso files doesnt have persistant save file should i uncompress the iso i want?
[16:07] <remrot> chripher: yes, you need a public key for authentication if you cannot enter your password
[16:07] <sipior> klask: you'll want to restore the symlinks lib64 -> lib, vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.whatever, and initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.whatever.
[16:08] <remrot> chripher: generate one with ssh-keygen (see man-page) and then copy it to the server with ssh-copy-id
[16:08] <sipior> klask: i think that should do it.
[16:08] <klask> sipior: ok thx, anything else?
[16:08] <klask> sipior: ok thank your very much, I'll try
[16:08] <mark___> roberto__: haha i just did that as you were suggesting it! funny.. there is 1 out of the 5 jacks that make some noise when i play the sound, but its not correct
[16:08] <mark___> roberto__: it's not the correct jack, i think
[16:08] <sipior> klask: well, cdrom -> media/cdrom, as well, but that's not too important.
[16:08] <chripher> remrot: I typed yes and then the password
[16:09] <roberto__> mark___: launch youtube in a browser for your audio out while you do this test, don't use aplay
[16:09] <roberto__> mark___: in case you were doing that
[16:09] <klask> sipior: yeah well, as soon as I have my commands back, the cdrom drive shouldn't be an issiue
[16:09] <sipior> klask: indeed. good luck :-)
[16:09] <chripher> remrot: fuse: mountpoint is not empty fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
[16:09] <fuyang> can someone translate this command from windows to linux: route ADD XX.XXX.124.95 MASK <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:09] <roberto__> mark___: 5 jacks? wow :)
[16:09] <klask> sipior: thank you!
[16:09] <remrot> chripher: choose an empty mountpoint
[16:10] <roberto__> fuyang: lowercase it
[16:10] <mark___> roberto__: lol, it just makes some crackling noise in one of them
[16:10] <fuyang> roberto_ ho really?
[16:10] <mark___> roberto__: it's actually 6
[16:10] <remrot> chripher: pr create a new directory and mount it there
[16:10] <riktking> im having real problems with my motd, it keeps regenerating with stuff ive taken out, how do i reset it to the default?
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> punkmexic:  so you have the grub2 config looking right.. the isos are there.. the casperrw file is there.. whats not working? its just not getting the persistant  stuff going? all the isos boot?
[16:11] <yellabs> hello there
[16:11] <aetaric> !hi
[16:11] <yellabs> what would be the command on the bash shell to run ntop maximized?
[16:11] <roberto__> mark___: that crackling noise is a good sign. in your preferences, is there more than one choice for output?
[16:11] <punkmexic> all isos boot except kubuntu cuz it says an eerrror *and pendrivelinux says to defragment the iso with some windows contig programs
[16:11] <fuyang> roberto__ that is not work
[16:11] <mark___> roberto__: only 1, analog stereo
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> yellabs:  you want to resize the terminal from the  shell then run ntop?
[16:11] <vernon_> can anyone help me get the sound working on an old toshiba laptop?
[16:12] <fuyang> route ADD XX.XXX.124.95 MASK <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:12] <remrot> chripher: if you really want it mounted automatically at startup, you NEED to set up pubkey auth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:12] <punkmexic> the only problem i have is that one distro doesnt boot and that i dont know how to  getting the persistant stuff working
[16:12] <yellabs> yes,
[16:12] <poop23> Hi. NVIDIA driver broke after i did an update that needed a restart (also VBox couldn't compile a kernel module, might be relevant])