[07:53] <graabein> can anyone help me with my nvidia card... i think i have a problem with opengl
[07:53] <dcraven> tony, does /home/tony exist? If it does, what are it's permissions?
[07:53] <crimsun> Fazer: I presume you've read the notes here? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM/view?searchterm=Thinkpad%20AND%20600E
[07:53] <Fazer> man, its relly sad when even the floppy wont' work!
[07:54] <Fazer> crimsun: first thing i did yes.
[07:54] <crimsun> Fazer: and which acpi options are you using?
[07:54] <tony> dcraven: the permissions are  correct rwxr-xr-x tony:tony
[07:54] <Fazer> crimsun: I don't know, how must I check?
[07:54] <Coily> http://pastebin.com/271269
[07:54] <crimsun> Fazer: so you read the page but aren't using any acpi options? hmm.
[07:54] <jnk> So someone know how to edit accounts for samba shares ?
[07:54] <crimsun> Fazer: cat /proc/cmdline
[07:54] <Fazer> crimsun: I am using the Live CD?
[07:55] <crimsun> Fazer: cat /proc/cmdline
[07:55] <Fazer> crimsun: Okay, I Just booted back into the LIve CD again in hopes that the floppy would alteast work.
[07:55] <crimsun> graabein: sorry about the delay. Could you paste the output of glxinfo onto pastebin.com, please?
[07:55] <Coily> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/271269
[07:55] <graabein> crimsun: i just get one line: Segmentation fault
[07:56] <crimsun> graabein: and what hardware are you using?
[07:56] <graabein> nvidia geforce 6600 gt
[07:56] <crimsun> Coily: lsb_release -a  => pastebin
[07:56] <jnk> Coily, run : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:56] <graabein> i've installed 7174 from the official site
[07:56] <crimsun> graabein: Hoary?
[07:57] <graabein> yep
[07:57] <Fazer> crimsun: Okay, so I did that, what exactly are you looking for?
[07:57] <crimsun> graabein: why didn't you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[07:57] <crimsun> graabein: Hoary ships with 7174
[07:57] <omeg> Hmm. How do I access the wastebin? Don't see any desktop icons.
[07:57] <crimsun> graabein: by mucking with Nvidia's installer, you've munged the setup
[07:57] <Fazer> crimsun: I don't see anything about acpi you asked.
[07:57] <jnk> omeg, you have a trash applet. Is this what you're looking for?
[07:57] <crimsun> Fazer: in /proc/cmdline?
[07:57] <Fazer> crimsun: yeah
[07:57] <omeg> I guess. I just tossed a file and want it back. =)
[07:58] <Fazer> crimsun: I did a grep as well, and that didn't return anything.
[07:58] <jnk> omeg, so add a trash applet to a pannel if it's not already there
[07:58] <graabein> crimsun: i read some where it didn't support 6600 gt?
[07:58] <shining> hi
[07:58] <jnk> omeg, or look at the folder .Trash in your home directory (hidden folder)
[07:58] <crimsun> Fazer: all right, now try booting with noapic nolapic pci=noacpi
[07:59] <Florob> omeg: lower right corner?
[07:59] <graabein> crimsun: i use driver "nv"... x won't start with "nvidia"
[07:59] <jnk> bye
[07:59] <Fazer> crimsun: Bah...wish I knew that earlier , *sigh* hold on, doing sudo shutdown
[07:59] <Fazer> crimsun: But, why "noapic" ?
[08:00] <crimsun> Fazer: your hardware is known to have broken hardware. We'll start with the safe combination.
[08:00] <Fazer> crimsun: Ooh, I know the trackpoint is broken.
[08:00] <Fazer> it is disabled.
[08:00] <Fazer> okay
[08:00] <Fazer> i am at the boot screen
[08:00] <Coily> jnk, for some reason aptitude worked
[08:00] <Fazer> i get an error
[08:01] <Fazer> "Could not find kernel image: noapic"
[08:01] <crimsun> Fazer: read the instructions in the help menu for appending kernel parameters
[08:01] <avatar__> .1.1
[08:01] <crimsun> Fazer: you'll need to specify a kernel image
[08:01] <Fazer> kernel paratmers or boot parameters?
[08:01] <cens0red> I have a j2sdk rpm. Seems it would be easier to use that then download a deb with dialup. Where's a page on using that "alien" thing?
[08:01] <shining> I tried to upgrade to breezy on one of my box to get the last fglrx driver, but I didn't see any update for it
[08:01] <crimsun> Fazer: same thing
[08:01] <dags> on radeon vid card; okey to use the 6.8.0-8.8.25 deb in the repository or is the latest rpm from ati.com far better (on 2d use mostly)?
[08:01] <Fazer> crimsun: I am kind of new so I am not sure what I might be doing..
[08:02] <crimsun> Fazer: press F1
[08:02] <Fazer> did that
[08:02] <shining> it only upgraded gcc and 3 other packages
[08:02] <crimsun> shining: it hasn't built yet
[08:02] <xxenon> any reason why ch.archive.ubuntu.com hasn't been updated for 1 week ?
[08:02] <stianh> Greetings
[08:02] <shining> crimsun, its funny, I saw on the web it was
[08:02] <graabein> yo! (norway)
[08:02] <Fazer> crimsun: Should I do live acpi=off
[08:02] <Fazer> ?
[08:03] <Fazer> what is acpi exactly?
[08:03] <crimsun> shining: where on the web?
[08:03] <Burgundavia> xxenon, hoary is frozen. There are no more updates except security ones
[08:03] <shining> dags, well the actual works
[08:03] <crimsun> Fazer: wikipedia will help you
[08:03] <shining> crimsun, on ubuntu forums maybe
[08:03] <crimsun> Fazer: pci=noacpi does that
[08:03] <e-type> Fazer: power control, battery stuff, cpu frequencies, ...
[08:03] <crimsun> shining: oh? url?
[08:03] <Fazer> ooh okay.
[08:03] <Fazer> so i am on a laptop..
[08:04] <akk> Fazer: Do you mean acpi, or apic?   Any way to get the new develpment repository ?
[08:04] <graabein> crimsun: do you suggest i do the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> xxenon, breezy just opened yesterday. I am not moving for another few weeks, but change all your hoary refs to breezy
[08:04] <mrimbert> graabein, yes
[08:05] <Fazer> crimsun: So, what shall I boot with?
[08:05] <graabein> mrimbert: even when i've installed the official drivers and messed about?
[08:05] <crimsun> graabein: yes
[08:05] <graabein> okay, will do. wish me luck!
[08:05] <xxenon> Burgundavia - thx
[08:05] <crimsun> Fazer: the line I first gave you
[08:05] <Burgundavia> xxenon, highly not recommended
[08:05] <reon> HI, I need some help with installing 'nvidia' driver please !
[08:05] <stianh> hmm, I have just installed hoary on my laptop, and every five minutes or so, my external mouse (usb) freezes, and I have to unplug it and plug it back it to get it working again. Any suggestions?
[08:05] <Fazer> crimsun: it...doesn't work, remember?
[08:06] <nubben> anyone wanna help a newbie?
[08:06] <crimsun> Fazer: no, you simply didn't pass the correct syntax
[08:06] <crimsun> Fazer: read the help
[08:06] <nubben> I cant mount ant of my other windows partitions,
[08:06] <Fazer> crimsun: it isn't making much sense...
[08:06] <crimsun> Fazer: you pass a kernel image as the first parameter, then the additional noapic nolapic pci=noacpi
[08:06] <nubben> just the one that I have windows installed on..
[08:06] <crimsun> Fazer: like this: linux noapic nolapic pci=noacpi
[08:06] <Fazer> so should i say "live"
[08:06] <Fazer> instead of "linux"
[08:07] <envel> is there any messenger for gnome similar to ksalup in KDE?
[08:07] <crimsun> Fazer: if that's what the help tells you to do, yes
[08:07] <reon> Hi, I need some help with installing 'nvidia' driver please...
[08:07] <monteiro> my mouse is very slow when i'm writing a cd or installing a game , in gentoo or debian this didnt happen :( anyone knows what it is ?
[08:07] <crimsun> reon: and you've read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[08:07] <sdogi> anyone knows why doesn't bittornado work in ubuntu?
[08:07] <Fazer> crimsun: Then uhm...there are many boot parameters
[08:07] <envel> monteiro, check hdparm
[08:07] <omeg> Hmm. I downloaded Mozilla Suite, but now that I've extracted it, it won't let me run the installer. It's indicated as an executable, but double-clicking it has zero effect.
[08:07] <Fazer> crimsun: I mean, there are many sub-choices
[08:08] <Fazer> I don't know which one applies to me?
[08:08] <monteiro> envel : tks :)
[08:08] <Burgundavia> reon, take a peak at www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriversHowto
[08:08] <crimsun> Fazer: please read what I said above
[08:08] <reon> crimsun:  I read http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[08:08] <Fah> is there an amd64 version of mplayer for hoary?
[08:08] <crimsun> Fazer: keep it simple. Pass the kernel name then the string I gave you
[08:08] <gds> W WINDOWS
[08:08] <gds> :-)
[08:08] <envel> monteiro, maybe you cdrom works in pio
[08:08] <graabein> crimsun, mrimbert: http://pastebin.com/271277
[08:08] <Zotnix> Hrm
[08:08] <Fazer> crimsun: do you want me to type "linux noapic nolapic pci=noacpi" ?
[08:08] <Zotnix> Perhaps I should have waited to upgrade to Breezy.
[08:08] <crimsun> Fazer: yes, save you may have to replace "linux" with the correct image name
[08:09] <envel> is there ksalup-like program for gnome? (using gtk libraries)
[08:09] <monteiro> envel : but if its the same thing when i use a lot of programs at the same time, not heavy and it happens the same
[08:09] <Fazer> crimsun: Couldnot find kernel image: linux
[08:09] <crimsun> reon: so now read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <gds> How can I install proprietary ati driver?
[08:09] <crimsun> Fazer: the help menu tells you precisely what the livecd's image name is
[08:09] <mrimbert> gds, same URL crimsun just gave
[08:09] <reon> crimsun: Yes I read that one as well
[08:09] <crimsun> reon: then where are you having problems?
[08:09] <wicked> omg there is a question bombardment here :)
[08:09] <Fazer> crimsun: Yeah well, its not there so I replaced "linux" with "live" in that boot procedure
[08:09] <Fazer> so it seems to be owrking...
[08:10] <envel> monteiro, maybe you have not enough memory and your hard drive works in pio mode;)
[08:10] <crimsun> Fazer: good
[08:10] <graabein> reon: i have problems with my nvidia card as well... whats your problem?
[08:10] <omeg> Maybe someone could help me? I'm pretty sure this is just a simple thing. I downloaded Mozilla Suite, but I can't run the installer. Double-clicking does nothing, without any sort of error message.
[08:10] <Fazer> crimsun: Okay, so, what shall I do next? Wait for it to completley boot up?
[08:10] <mrimbert> graabein, you'll need to do what it says there regarding the md5sum
[08:10] <shining> quote : "ATI driver version 8.12.10 is available in breezy, which should fix this problem + have a decent performance improvement."
[08:10] <memnips> for some reason, ubuntu keeps getting disconnected from my WLAN, and, there is no way I can re-connect to it without rebooting which is very annoying.
[08:10] <shining> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:10] <crimsun> Fazer: yes, and do whatever you initially tried to do, use something USB-related?
[08:10] <mrimbert> graabein, or, change "nv" to "nvidia" by hand
[08:10] <graabein> mrimbert, okay, i'm on it...
[08:10] <reon> crimsun: whe I specify driver 'nvidia' my X wont load, if I change it back 2 'nv' it works
[08:10] <Fazer> crimsun: Yeah, i was trying to moutn a USB drive.
[08:11] <crimsun> reon: so paste the error from /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin.com
[08:11] <graabein> mrimbert, last time i did that x wouldnt start... in the xorg.cof
[08:11] <shining> reon, follow the link I just pasted
[08:11] <graabein> nf
[08:11] <Fah> reon: is the nvidia kernel module loaded?
[08:11] <shining> reon, and read the instructions for installing the nvidia driver
[08:11] <Fazer> crimsun: OH and one more thing, how come teh LIve CD configured the DHCP for me while the Installer doesn't?
[08:11] <graabein> Fah, what do i type to check that?
[08:11] <crimsun> Fazer: just now?
[08:11] <crimsun> Fazer: or before?
[08:11] <Fazer> crimsun: Before.
[08:11] <memnips> anyone know how to restart a wireless network device (reactive and deactiveate dont actually work) because i keep getting disconnected from my WLAN and have to reboot.
[08:11] <envel> omeg, check file rights, the 'executable' bit is not set
[08:11] <mrimbert> graabein, is nvidia module loaded?
[08:11] <Fah> graabein: lsmod|grep nvidia
[08:11] <crimsun> Fazer: the livecd is different from the install cd
[08:12] <monteiro> envel : maybe it is it, i'm expecting to have time to change to another hard-drive the ubuntu
[08:12] <Fah> if its not loaded modprobe nvidia
[08:12] <Fazer> crimsun: =( so....that means when I install it, my network card won't work?
[08:12] <graabein> nvidia               3919548  0   /   agpgart                31784  2 intel_agp,nvidia
[08:12] <Fah> then  start x
[08:12] <crimsun> Fazer: it means you may have to pass additional kernel/boot options
[08:12] <envel> monteiro, do you know  a program similar to ksalup that written especially for gnome?
[08:12] <Fazer> ooh =[
[08:12] <mrimbert> graabein, okay, have you taken a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:12] <graabein> i'm in x right now but glxinfo gives me segmentation fault
[08:13] <Fah> and you've installed the nvidia-glx package?
[08:13] <memnips> anyone know how to restart a wireless network device? Reactive and deactiveate dont actually work after i get disconnected from my WLAN and forces me to reboot to re-connect.  Very frustrating.
[08:13] <monteiro> envel : nop
[08:13] <crimsun> graabein: we need to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log with "nvidia"
[08:13] <shining> membreya, it works here
[08:13] <graabein> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[08:13] <shining> oops
[08:13] <crimsun> graabein: yes, even if it doesn't work. Copy it to a safe location.
[08:13] <shining> memnips, it works here
[08:14] <membreya> shining: ? :|
[08:14] <crimsun> graabein: lsmod|grep ^nvidia
[08:14] <memnips> shining, when you get disconnected, you can just re-activate and it works?
[08:14] <mrimbert> graabein, please paste it to pastebin (Xorg.0.log)
[08:14] <crimsun> graabein: err, n/m. Just scrolled up.
[08:14] <shining> membreya, I said oops
[08:14] <shining> memnips, yep
[08:14] <dcraven> memnips, dhcp?
[08:15] <memnips> dcraven, yeah, dhcp.
[08:15] <shining> memnips, sometimes, I just wait, and it reconnects alone
[08:15] <crimsun> graabein: does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o exist?
[08:15] <angeldusted> UNTUNU!
[08:15] <shining> I'm using dhcp too
[08:15] <Fazer> crimsun: Okay, so it has booted up...
[08:15] <angeldusted> UBUNTU OWNS
[08:15] <memnips> damn...mine refuses to do that.
[08:15] <shining> angeldusted, you too
[08:15] <dcraven> memnips, dhclient wlan0 will ask for an IP.
[08:15] <Fazer> angeldusted: =[ wishI could say that.
[08:15] <graabein> crimsun, yep
[08:15] <dcraven> memnips, or 'ifup wlan0'.
[08:16] <memnips> dcraven, i habe no idea what you are saying.  =P  im a newb.
[08:16] <crimsun> graabein: and what version is it from?
[08:16] <graabein> crimsun, how do i find out?
[08:16] <Fazer> you know... crimsun, the ethernet is workign just fucking fine.
[08:16] <Fazer> omg!
[08:16] <angeldusted> <3
[08:16] <Fazer> ogm!
[08:16] <shining> memnips,  you could maybe try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[08:16] <Fazer> OMG!
[08:16] <tdx> ;)
[08:16] <graabein> Fazer, yippie!
[08:16] <memnips> shining, do you think using a static IP instead of dhcp would help?
[08:16] <Fazer> horray, but boo @ boot parameters
[08:17] <dcraven> memnips, I don't know how to do this in a GUI.. But if you open a terminal and type "dhclient wlan0" then your machine will ask the router for it's IP address.
[08:17] <crimsun> graabein: strings /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o|grep ^"nvidia id"
[08:17] <memnips> dcraven, ah ok.
[08:17] <angeldusted> ohh ehi6
[08:17] <angeldusted> ohh shit
[08:17] <graabein> nvidia id: NVIDIA X Driver  1.0-7174  Tue Mar 22 06:48:37 PST 2005
[08:17] <angeldusted> I thought this was hts
[08:17] <angeldusted> =/
[08:17] <angeldusted> heh
[08:18] <crimsun> graabein: please paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto pastebin.com
[08:18] <Fazer> crimsun: So, you are awesome.
[08:18] <Fazer> crimsun: Yes?
[08:18] <angeldusted> ok
[08:18] <angeldusted> see you guys later
[08:18] <crimsun> Fazer: huh?
[08:18] <Fazer> crimsun: thanks...ethernet magically works!
[08:18] <crimsun> Fazer: np
[08:18] <graabein> http://pastebin.com/271280
[08:18] <Coily> whats the latest kernel release, 2.6.8.xx??
[08:19] <dcraven> Fazer, does that mean you can stop the cursing now?
[08:19] <membreya> 11
[08:19] <envel> Coily, <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:19] <Fazer> dcraven: NEver!
[08:19] <Fazer> dcraven: Sorry , yes =(
[08:19] <crimsun> Coily: Hoary uses 2.6.10+patches, the latest is listed on kernel.org
[08:19] <mrimbert> Coily, but 2.6.11 is not supported in Hoary
[08:19] <crimsun> graabein: looking
[08:19] <dcraven> Coily, 2.6.10 is the last supported version I think.
[08:20] <Coily> would someone mind posting their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?
[08:20] <guru3> anyone else here had apt-getting python2.4 fail?
[08:20] <Coily> just pm me it
[08:20] <envel> Coily, for what?
[08:20] <crimsun> graabein: unfortunately that's the version with "nv", not "nvidia"
[08:20] <Coily> crosscheck
[08:20] <Fazer> crimsun: How did you know of those commands!
[08:20] <crimsun> graabein: we need to see the version with "nvidia"
[08:20] <BoneZ> What is the hexadecimal for F? 15 right?
[08:21] <crimsun> Fazer: reading.
[08:21] <Fazer> crimsun: Can you tell me what you read?
[08:21] <graabein> crimsun, so... i have to replace the driver part in xorg.conf?
[08:21] <crimsun> Fazer: that page.
[08:21] <Fazer> crimsun: Are yu sure  it was that page? I didn't find much under 600E
[08:21] <crimsun> graabein: yes, and make sure Load "glx" is _uncommented_
[08:21] <omeg> So. Maybe someone can help me now? I've downloaded and extracted the Mozilla Suite installer--there's an executable inside which I can't open.
[08:21] <omeg> Double-clicking just doesn't work.
[08:21] <mcdonaldswes> BoneZ: yes, F=15
[08:21] <graabein> crimsun, okay, i'm on it
[08:21] <BoneZ> ok, thanks
[08:22] <crimsun> Fazer: many hardware problems are exhibited in different laptops
[08:22] <Coily> would someone mind pming me their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?
[08:22] <crimsun> Fazer: some such problems appear across multiple makes and models
[08:22] <Fazer> crimsun: Oh, I see
[08:22] <BoneZ> If I got a block with 30724312 with: Start: 1040 and End: 4864 How many GB would I then have?
[08:22] <BoneZ> Like 30GB?
[08:23] <reon_> crimsun:  http://www.pastebin.com/271279
[08:23] <envel> is there any mailslot-based gnome messenger?
[08:23] <BoneZ> 30724312+ is the correct block
[08:23] <Fazer> crimsun: So I guess I will be doing in install now....when launching the INstaller, do I pass the same boot options but instead of "live" i put "linux" ?
[08:24] <reon_> crimsun: reon@mamoth:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:24] <crimsun> reon_: you did not comment _out_ Load "dri"
[08:24] <reon_> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[08:24] <crimsun> reon_: did you follow wiki/BinaryDriverHowto?
[08:24] <reon_> crimsun: which file is that in ?
[08:25] <crimsun> reon_: did you follow wiki/BinaryDriverHowto?
[08:25] <tritium> reon, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:25] <Coily> would someone mind pming me their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?
[08:26] <reon_> crimsun: Yes, But I did not see anything about removing Load "dri"
[08:26] <tritium> reon, that's noted in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
[08:26] <crimsun> reon_: that's because ..glx-enable does that
[08:26] <Chipparn> hi. need help with something.. im trying to add extra repositories. i got this page to help me: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories . and im getting this error : warning nothing exported, no valid openpgp data found when im trying this command: gpg --armor --export 1F4B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[08:27] <Fazer> crimsun: So I guess I will be doing in install now....when launching the INstaller, do I pass the same boot options but instead of "live" i put "linux" ?
[08:27] <reon_> crimsun: Should I remove the Load "dri" line ?
[08:27] <crimsun> Fazer: use the help menu to find out which image name you should use
[08:27] <Fazer> crimsun: Hmm, that is the tricky part as there are various sub menus
[08:27] <crimsun> reon_: no, follow the directions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <reon_> crimsun: Think I'm learning here. My restricted modules does not match my kernal. I change to K8 instead of generic
[08:30] <crimsun> reon_: ok
[08:31] <reon_> crimsun: thanks, I feel like a real twit, lesson learnt, dont just assume things.
[08:31] <Coily> would someone mind pming me their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?
[08:31] <reon_> coily, ok
[08:32] <Coily> reon_, thanks
[08:32] <Fazer> crimsun, I am now trying to configure the sound.
[08:32] <zimba-tm> hem, what sound editor could I use ? I want to cut some mp3, really basic editing
[08:32] <crimsun> snd-cs4236 should work
[08:32] <crimsun> zimba-tm: audacity
[08:33] <Fazer> crimsun, this is what I did:
[08:33] <zimba-tm> thanks crimsun
[08:33] <Fazer> sudo modprobe cs4232
[08:33] <reon_> Coily: I'm trying to DCC you.
[08:33] <Fazer> But I got this:
[08:33] <crimsun> Fazer: that's the oss driver, don't use it.
[08:33] <Fazer> FATAL: Error inserting cs4232 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/oss/cs4232.ko): No such device
[08:33] <Fazer> crimsun, : ooh
[08:33] <crimsun> use the one I sadi
[08:33] <crimsun> said^
[08:34] <crimsun> if it doesn't work, pass isapnp=0
[08:34] <tweek> i just poped in to say, hoary hedgehog owns me :D
[08:34] <crimsun> I have to go back to work.
[08:34] <graabein> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/271287
[08:34] <Fazer> crimsun: Do I use that with modprobe?
[08:34] <omeg> Is there anybody who can help me with a (probably VERY simple) problem?
[08:35] <graabein> crimsun, anyone else that can help me with nvidia driver problem?
[08:35] <Burgundavia> omeg, sure
[08:35] <omeg> I downloaded Mozilla Suite, and extracted it to my desktop. Now the installer binary in the extraction folder won't open. I can double-click it all I want, but nothing happens.
[08:35] <omeg> mozilla-installer-bin
[08:35] <tritium> omeg, why are you not installing the mozilla packages from the repositories?
[08:35] <Burgundavia> omeg, my question exactly
[08:36] <omeg> I downloaded the Linux version from the site.
[08:36] <Myrtti> why?
[08:36] <gds> Why  on my k7 install Ubuntu itself with kernel for i386?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> omeg, start system-->admin-->synatpic
[08:36] <njan> gds, that's the default
[08:36] <omeg> Is it included with Ubuntu by default?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> omeg, then search for mozilla
[08:36] <njan> gds, you can apt-get install your own kernel if you want.
[08:36] <gds> Is it convenient to change kernel?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> omeg, and it install it
[08:37] <tritium> gds, if you want, grab linux-k7
[08:37] <njan> omeg, firefox is bundled by default in ubuntu, which is a faster browser built around mozilla. If you want the whole mozilla suite, you can install it via synaptic as Burgundavia points out.
[08:37] <omeg> Okay, I'll try that. But still. It's strange that I'm unable to double-click an executable.
[08:37] <gds> tritium,  have you grabbed it?
[08:37] <tritium> gds, I don't have a k7, no
[08:37] <njan> omeg, as a general rule, you should be able to install *any* remotely common package using synaptic or apt-get at the commandline
[08:38] <bur[n] er> omeg: u sure it's marked as executable?
[08:38] <Fazer> crimsun: I get no such device with the isapnp=0 paramter.
[08:38] <tritium> gds, sudo apt-get install linux-k7, if you want it
[08:38] <omeg> bur[n] er: positive, it's indicated as an executable.
[08:38] <Burgundavia> omeg, proabably becuase you need sudo privs
[08:38] <bur[n] er> bah, screw it... dont' use the mozilla installer ;)  apt-get
[08:38] <graabein> can anyone help me with my nvidia problems? i've posted the Xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/271287
[08:38] <gds> thanks tritium
 omeg, start system-->admin-->synatpic <-- I can't find it. :p In the "applications" folder?
[08:39] <tritium> gds, sure
[08:39] <Burgundavia> omeg, Synaptic Package Manger
[08:39] <tritium> graabein, that's not your xorg.conf ;) (it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[08:39] <Guga> I have warty on a 2nd hd, Hoary on the 1st.  I get text only on the 2nd hd.  How can I fix this?
[08:39] <Sh4d> kelkun pourais m'aider ? comme un con j'ais dsinstaller gnome-panel
[08:39] <Sh4d> et j'arrive pas a le rinstaller :-(
[08:40] <graabein> tritium, hehe, sorry, i meant the Xorg.0.log
[08:40] <tritium> Sh4d, #ubuntu-fr
[08:40] <Sh4d> ah thx
[08:41] <reagleBRKLN> closes i've seen is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MacOnLinuxHowto#building-the-mol-modules
[08:41] <Guga> I can access my 2nd hd, but no desktop
[08:42] <graabein> tritium, what do you reckon the problem is? i can't start x with the "nvidia" driver
[08:42] <gds> Can I alternatively use fglrx driver and open source ati driver?
[08:42] <gds> (Changing xorg.conf)
[08:42] <tweek> when i run lilconfig i get four choices for bitmaps, is there any particular one to choose?
[08:42] <tritium> graabein, I'm looking it the log now.  Is that the whole thing?
[08:42] <tweek> liloconfig*
[08:42] <graabein> tritium, yep
[08:43] <Myrtti> liloconfig?
[08:43] <Myrtti> why liloconfig?
[08:43] <gds> Ati proprietary driver is broken but It's accelerated
[08:43] <tweek> to configure lilo
[08:43] <tweek> because grub isnt working
[08:43] <Myrtti> oh
 omeg, Synaptic Package Manger <-- I've found Applications --> Accessories --> Package Manager, but not a "Synaptic Package Manager". There's a whole bunch of files in the one I have, and I can't really find Mozilla. :p
[08:44] <tritium> graabein, hard to say, particularly since you installed from nvidia's binaries, rather than ubuntu packages
[08:44] <Burgundavia> omeg, you have 2 menus or three?
[08:44] <cens0red> hey is the package free-java-sdk really a complete sdk?
[08:44] <graabein> tritium, how do i remove the binaries?
[08:44] <cens0red> hey is the package free-java-sdk really a complete java sdk? with jre?
[08:44] <tweek> Myrtti is there any particular one i should use?
[08:44] <omeg> Sorry, nevermind, I just found it in Computer --> System Configuration.
[08:44] <tritium> graabein, I've never used them, so I can't say
[08:45] <Myrtti> tweek: I have no idea, I use grub. I was just wondering why you use lilo
[08:45] <tritium> cens0red, if you want java, follow Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[08:45] <tweek> ok :\
[08:45] <omeg> I just installed Mozilla. That was the easiest installation ever.
[08:45] <graabein> tritium, how do i verify if open gl is running as it should?
[08:46] <tritium> omeg, ;)
[08:46] <Guga> 2nd hardrive won't show a desktop, just text of my files
[08:46] <Burgundavia> omeg, welcome to the wonders of a debian based distro
[08:46] <omeg> :)
[08:46] <tritium> graabein, I'm not sure of the best way...
[08:46] <omeg> Great system.
[08:46] <cens0red> tritium you mean make my own deb package with checkinstall or sumthin?
[08:46] <SpaceNuts> omeg, welcome to the wonderful world of package managers
[08:46] <tritium> cens0red, with java-package
[08:47] <Guga> how can I move files from my warty hd to my hoary hd?
[08:47] <SpaceNuts> Guga: mv ?
[08:47] <Guga> mv, SpaceNuts?
[08:47] <SpaceNuts> omeg: for tips on installing things see http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:47] <gunny> I need some samba help
[08:47] <omeg> I guess that leaves me with just one problem. The resolution of 1920x1200 seems unsupported. I edited my XF86Config-4 file, and added the "1920x1200" resolution to every single mode, but it still won't show up even after a cold reboot.
[08:47] <omeg> Thanks, SpaceNuts.
[08:48] <SpaceNuts> Guga: what exactly do you want to do, move files from one partition to another?
[08:48] <Guga> yes, SpaceNuts
[08:48] <cens0red> tritium I don't understand sorry.
[08:48] <gunny> trying to share 2 directories on my ubuntu box with my XP box
[08:48] <tritium> cens0red, it's on the URL.  Please read Method 2
[08:48] <gunny> nobody uses these boxes but me
[08:48] <SpaceNuts> omeg: try /etc/xorg.conf
[08:48] <guru3> anyone have anyidea why my xorg is missing the vesa driver?
[08:48] <omeg> Thanks.
[08:49] <SpaceNuts> Guga: well have you got both partitions mounted?
[08:49] <Guga> yes, SpaceNuts
[08:49] <omeg> /etc/xorg.org is a "new file".
[08:49] <mjr> omeg, either your monitor settings don't allow for such high a resolution, in which case you should fix them, or there's no builtin mode for that (I'm not sure), in which case google for modeline 1920x1200.
[08:49] <omeg> I've always used 1920x1200 on Windows XP, so it's possible for my hardware. Maybe it's because I'm using the vesa driver?
[08:49] <mjr> omeg, oh yeah, that; it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:49] <SpaceNuts> Guga: ok what is the path for the source partition and what is the path for the destination partition?
[08:50] <Guga> IDE 0 and IDE 1
[08:50] <mjr> it's quite possible that the vesa driver can't initialize that mode
[08:50] <cens0red> tritium I did make my own deb package from the sun (TM) j2sdk_1.4.2_03-1_i386.rpm using alien. Is that much the same thing?
[08:50] <SpaceNuts> mjr and omeg, mjr is right, sorry for that it is indeed /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[08:50] <omeg> I was told to try /etc/X11/xorg.conf before by a friend, but that didn't exist either. I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 instead.
[08:50] <SpaceNuts> * xorg.conf
[08:50] <mjr> you should really see the log file
[08:50] <mjr> (of the X server)
[08:50] <tritium> cens0red, I suppose so.  I've not used alien.
[08:50] <mjr> omeg, still using warty, then?
[08:50] <omeg> Er, yeah. =) I ordered the CDs a while back.
[08:50] <SpaceNuts> Guga: the paths in your filesystem, for example /mnt/disk1
[08:50] <omeg> So there's already been a major update since?
[08:51] <mjr> right, then that's the correct file. Just see /var/log/XFree86.0.log
[08:51] <Guga> let me check, SpaceNuts
[08:51] <SpaceNuts> Omeg: yes it is now a half year past ubuntu, and the next release has been last friday
[08:51] <Guga> Computer/Filesytem, SpaceNuts
[08:52] <omeg> Is there any way for me to update to the latest version (5.04, I see) in this version through an updater? Or in the terminal?
[08:52] <zimba-tm> anyone has tries to use bluetooth in gnome ? I think it's supposed to be integrated with nautilus, but I don't know where
[08:52] <omeg> Or do I have to redownload the new package and use that to upgrade?
[08:52] <graabein> tritium, or others, does this: (WW) NVIDIA(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum    cause a problem?
[08:52] <bassMonkey> when I try to open a .rar file I made in winace with archiver it says archive type not supported... The question is why, becouse I have installed rar
[08:52] <tritium> graabein, it could, but at least that's just a warning
[08:52] <gunny> omeg, there are great instructions for getting haory on ubuntuforums.org
[08:53] <omeg> Thanks.
[08:53] <dr_willis> bassMonkey,  try it from the shell.
[08:53] <delire> bassMonkey: you installed unrar?
[08:53] <gunny> basically change your apt.sources to point to hoary then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:53] <graabein> tritium, x won't start with the nvidia-driver so the error must be in the xorg.0.log?
[08:53] <dr_willis> bassMonkey,  thers also some non-free versions of rar/unrar out that may be newer
[08:53] <graabein> sorry, i'm a newbie
[08:54] <mjr> omeg, there's also instructions at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog
[08:54] <mjr> under "how to upgrade"...
[08:54] <tritium> graabein, it should be, yes
[08:54] <delire> graabein: never apologise for being a newbie. you're absolutely allowed to ask Q's from time to time ;)
[08:54] <gunny> thank goodness ;)
[08:54] <graabein> thanks, i just don't wanna nag! :)
[08:55] <dr_willis> Just call us Sir! :P
[08:55] <dr_willis> and grovel a bit.
[08:55] <graabein> hehe
[08:55] <gunny> anyone feel like tackling Samba?
[08:56] <graabein> i'll be real pleased when i get the gfx to run, that's for sure!
[08:56] <SpaceNuts> gunny what exactly is the issue
[08:56] <gunny> I have an XP box that can see the samba server, but not the 2 folders I have shared
[08:57] <gunny> very basic in home system me and the wife are the only users
[08:57] <dr_willis> for samba and windows  - i always seem to have to set the 'browseable' feature in the samba config on the shares.
[08:57] <dantheman> woudl anybody be willing to look at my xorg.conf and help me figure out why x can't load with my two monitors
[08:57] <dantheman> ?
[08:57] <gunny> I have verified smb is running and I can see the shares when I browse network from ubuntu
[08:57] <SpaceNuts> ok you did set the shares
[08:57] <gunny> yes they are set
[08:57] <SpaceNuts> you did already restart the smb daemon?
[08:58] <gunny> doing that now
[08:58] <dr_willis> gunny,  also - i find that i have to make the xp users and linux users with identical names/passwords.  AND use smbpasswd to make them have samba passwords also.
[08:58] <dr_willis> but ive fought with samba over the years.. and a lot of this may not be needed any more.
[08:59] <omeg> I've browsed the Ubuntu forums for a while, but I'm still uncertain if there's a way to actually auto-update Warty to Hoary.
[08:59] <omeg> But if there is, I'll keep looking. :p
[08:59] <gunny> should the icon on a directory change to indicate it is shared?
[09:00] <dr_willis> gunny,  hmm you are setting the shares from the gnome interface?
[09:00] <delire> omeg: you should be able to dist-upgrade once you've added hoary to your repository list.
[09:00] <gunny> yes dr_willis
[09:00] <bassMonkey> delire: that was a good point, works now
[09:00] <bassMonkey> thanks
[09:00] <gunny> but they showd up in smb.conf
[09:00] <reagleBRKLN> urd:/home/reagle> fusermount /tmp/crypt /tmp/crypt-raw/
[09:00] <delire> bassMonkey: ok np..
[09:00] <riji> how to make the gnome-menu transparent?
[09:00] <guru3> any idea why my xserver does not have the vesa driver?
[09:00] <reagleBRKLN> -rwsr-xr--  1 root fuse 17068 Mar 18 07:52 /usr/bin/fusermount*
[09:00] <dr_willis> gunny,  i normally just make 'home' shares in the smb configs.  i also set the home shares to be browseable.
[09:00] <reagleBRKLN> i just added myself to fuse
[09:00] <reagleBRKLN> shouldn't i be able to execute it
[09:00] <dr_willis> gunny,  but ive not messed with this much under ubuntu..
[09:00] <gunny> smb noob
[09:01] <dr_willis> gunny,  you did check out 'ubuntuguide.org' ? they have info on this
[09:01] <Fazer> ** (network-admin:23105): CRITICAL **: gst_xml_element_set_content: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[09:01] <delire> guru3: to be sure 'sudo modprobe -l | grep vesa'
[09:01] <Fazer> whoops
[09:01] <dr_willis> gunny,  and thers a online book on samba thats free
[09:01] <dr_willis> byee. all work time
[09:01] <Fazer> that is the error I get when I try to enable my wlan card =(
[09:01] <gunny> theu used to the new guide just shows how to install samba it seems
[09:01] <riji> Or how to make everythig transparent on the startpanel?
[09:02] <Fazer> has anyone here had success with broadcom wlan cards?
[09:02] <guru3> delire: hmmm, nothing there...
[09:02] <delire> Fazer: hmm what is the card? 'lspci | grep Wireless' perhaps
[09:02] <delire> guru3: you're right, that is odd. what graphic card are you using anyway?
[09:02] <Fazer> delire: Sure, hold on.
[09:02] <guru3> delire: im on a mac
[09:02] <delire> Fazer: ahah broadcom... no that's enough info
[09:03] <Fazer> delire: lol
[09:03] <delire> guru3: ok.. (and good for you).
[09:03] <guru3> yeah... better if it'd work ><
[09:03] <guru3> the console is framebuffer
[09:03] <guru3> but fbdev doesn't work
[09:03] <delire> guru3: hey you should disenable all the framebuffer stuff while trouble shooting X.
[09:03] <delire> s/disenable/disable
[09:03] <Fazer> delire: so....what would you suggest on doing?
[09:03] <guru3> delire: i don't think i can do that
[09:03] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[09:03] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:03] <delire> Fazer: have you installed wireless-tools?
[09:04] <Fazer> delire: do I have to?
[09:04] <Fazer> i have my ethernet jacked in
[09:04] <delire> guru3: ok 'lspci | grep VGA'
[09:04] <Fazer> so i have to remove my ethernet card and put in the wifi card.
[09:04] <delire> Fazer: but you said wlan.. which do you want to configure?
[09:04] <omeg> Hmm. Synaptic Package Manager doesn't show Hoary as a package. How would I add it to my repository list?
[09:04] <guru3> delire: 0000:00:07.0 VGA compatible controller: Decision Computer International Co.: Unknown device 6666
[09:04] <delire> Fazer: guru3: jeziz how old is the mac?
[09:05] <guru3> not very...
[09:05] <jintxo> graabein, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:05] <delire> guru3: never heard of that card..
[09:05] <Choubaka> Hm
[09:05] <Fazer> delire: Eh?
[09:05] <delire> guru3: ok no matter. have you tried with svga?
[09:05] <guru3> no
[09:05] <Choubaka> Why the hell don't any decent clients exist for DC on Linux
[09:05] <delire> Fazer: you want to get your wlan up and running?
[09:05] <Ti_Uhl> i've upgraded to hoary with apt but i always get the message that x-window-system-core is been kept back, i still run on Xfree but how do i update to Xorg ?
[09:06] <delire> guru3: see if you have it 'modprobe -l | grep svga'
[09:06] <guru3> also not found
[09:06] <graabein> jintxo, what for?
[09:06] <onkarshinde> Which is th ebest speech recognition software on linux (specifically Ubuntu)?
[09:06] <jintxo> graabein, sorry.. tab completion :-p
[09:06] <queuetue> Where would I go to buy a copy of UT, and have it marked down as a linux purchase, not a Windows one?
[09:06] <delire> guru3: though it's probably compiled into the kernel.. you have tried using 'vesa' in your X display settings? /etc/xorg.conf
[09:07] <queuetue> (UT -= Unreal Tournament)
[09:07] <guru3> yeah
[09:07] <guru3> it says module not found
[09:07] <delire> guru3: ok.. but you have tried vesa
[09:07] <guru3> yes
[09:07] <delire> guru3: and what was the error output?
[09:07] <Ti_Uhl> i've upgraded to hoary with apt but i always get the message that x-window-system-core is been kept back, i still run on Xfree but how do i update to Xorg ? anyone ?
[09:07] <guru3> 1 sec
[09:07] <omeg> I'm on Warty, and I want to upgrade to Hoary, can I do this in my Synaptic Package Manager?
[09:07] <delire> guru3: don't flood here though! just the line
[09:07] <delire> join #pyogre
[09:08] <delire> how's it going..
[09:08] <delire> you work all day and then this ;)
[09:08] <Fazer> delire: yes, yes i do?
[09:08] <malika> salut
[09:08] <Fazer> i am using a mn 720 microsoft wlan card
[09:08] <delire> join #ubuntu
[09:08] <Fazer> I guess its on the broadcom chipset
[09:08] <malika> hello
[09:08] <onkarshinde> Which is th ebest speech recognition software on linux (specifically Ubuntu)?
[09:08] <delire> Fazer: ok can you 'sudo iwconfig' ?
[09:08] <Fazer> sure hold on
[09:08] <riji> is there a package with Apache+PHP+Mysql all together?
[09:09] <Fazer> delire: I dont have my wlan card plugged in though
[09:09] <Fazer> I can only plug in one card at a time.
[09:09] <queuetue> riji, Why?
[09:09] <GhostFreeman> How can I remove Kubuntu and all the additional software in installed
[09:09] <GhostFreeman> it*
[09:09] <kemal> Hi, I just installed 4.10 and root privileges, but it does not allow me??
[09:09] <delire> Fazer: are you writing from the machine you're trying to configure?
[09:09] <omeg> Oh well. Don't really have much more time now... I'm gonna boot back to Windows and solve my problems at a later date. Thanks for your help for now, all. =)
[09:09] <Fazer> delire: Yes.
[09:09] <Fazer> delire: I am on the laptop with the ethernet on.  Trying to see if I can get teh wifi going ;)
[09:09] <jintxo> riji, you could install phpbb and you would get it all at once :-) (you'd also get phpbb, heh)
[09:10] <delire> Fazer: hmm, so you'll be offline if you plug in the card. that makes it difficult.
[09:10] <onkarshinde> Any speech recognition software for linux?
[09:10] <Fazer> delire: i am beside a desktop though...that is plugged into the router so I can be connected, kind of.
[09:10] <delire> Fazer: that'd be wise..
[09:10] <queuetue> riji, just apt-get them all indivdually...
[09:10] <Fazer> delire: alright, connecting.
[09:10] <riji> never configed apcahe etc under linux before :S
[09:10] <delire> onkarshinde: apt-cache search speech recognition
[09:10] <guru3> delire: "failed to load modules "vesa" module does not exist"
[09:11] <delire> guru3: jeziz that seems odd. is this Warty or Hoary?
[09:11] <onkarshinde> delire: Can you explain the output of command?
[09:11] <guru3> hoary
[09:11] <RQ> WooHoo! :)
[09:12] <register2223> hi
[09:12] <Fazer_> delire: Okay.
[09:12] <delire> onkarshinde: apt-cache search <keyword> searches all the package repositories for which you have listed based on the keyword.
[09:12] <onkarshinde> delire: thanks
[09:13] <riji> how the hell do i get accessto a dir on linux :S
[09:13] <riji> "you don't have premission"
[09:13] <Fazer_> delire: So i did iwconfig
[09:13] <Fazer_> i see some stuff for wlan0
[09:13] <queuetue> riji, sudo.  (Have you read any docs?)
[09:13] <Fazer_> Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00
[09:13] <Fazer_> Power Management: off
[09:13] <cens0red> hmmm ... my windows partition doesn't appear in my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:14] <riji> well how to do sudo in the browser?
[09:14] <delire> Fazer_: ok.. don't spam it all here.. ;)
[09:14] <guru3> delire: does it hurt that the hoary cd wouldn't boot so i sort of hacked my install off of debian?
[09:14] <Fazer_> delire: yeah, i am manually tpying so I am limited to my spam ;)
[09:14] <[DarKrusheR] > hi
[09:14] <delire> Fazer_: now this 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning'
[09:14] <delire> Fazer_: see any access points?
[09:14] <Fazer_> delire: Hold on.
[09:15] <Fazer_> delire: But...my wifi card isn't even blinking or anything, its like its off.
[09:15] <delire> guru3: hmm so this isn't a fresh hoary install. ok what does 'uname -r' give you?
[09:15] <guru3> 2.4.18-newpmac
[09:15] <Fazer_> delire: I get wlan0       No scan results
[09:15] <delire> Fazer: ok then do this to see what's happening. 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and look at the output as you plug in and unplug the card.
[09:16] <Fazer_> delire: okay.
[09:16] <delire> Fazer: /var/log/syslog is the system log for your entire machine. tail 'watches' or follows this log.
[09:16] <guru3> delire: it's cause my system wouldn't boot 2.6 kernels :/
[09:16] <Fazer_> delire: alright, I see some activity.
[09:17] <Fazer_> sutffstuff like wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device
[09:17] <delire> guru3: if i were you i'd join debian-ppc and ask them there. all modern macs run beautifully on 2.6.* kernels. if i were you i wouldn't tell them you're running Ubuntu just yet. just ask the questions you need answered there. if you have no luck come back and ask me. BTW simonrvn is your man for all ppc issues.
[09:17] <Fazer_> gives me the driver name.
[09:17] <delire> Fazer: well then you're very close
[09:17] <Fazer_> delire: Awesome.
[09:18] <delire> Fazer: anyway, give me 2 mins..
[09:18] <guru3> delire: ok, thnx
[09:18] <Fazer_> i also see DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 20
[09:18] <delire> Fazer: putting on some coffee
[09:18] <queuetue> It kind of stinks that Ubuntu users have to slum when we're asking for help in #debian... :)
[09:18] <Fazer_> delire: hehe cool!
[09:18] <stas> hi guys
[09:18] <stianh> Greetings again people!
[09:18] <stas> can you please help me out with some of the things
[09:18] <stas> that I used in Windows
[09:19] <stas> that I can't figure out how to do in ubuntu?
[09:19] <e-type> stas: fire away
[09:19] <queuetue> riji, I would not use nautilus, or the "browser" if i were you.  If you insist on using the GUI to manipulate files, I hope someone wil help you, because I won't. :)
[09:19] <stas> ok :)
[09:19] <stas> can I remap my capslock key
[09:19] <stas> to act as a Winkey?
[09:19] <stas> and my RAlt key as capslock?
[09:19] <Arcane> Is there ANY WAY to log in as root? I'm getting tired of opening root terminals every half second.
[09:20] <queuetue> Arcane, sudo -s
[09:20] <queuetue> Arcane, Or. jus tpuch "root console" fromt he menu. :)
[09:20] <queuetue> Arcane, Oh, I muisunderstood what you wanted.
[09:21] <queuetue> Arcane, You want to *run* as root?
[09:21] <stas> and
[09:21] <stas> I want to be able to launch apps by using global shortcuts
[09:21] <stas> is that possible?
[09:21] <stas> so like
[09:21] <graabein> anyone tried games.yahoo chess?
[09:21] <queuetue> Arcane, I don't recommend that.  Typing sudo is such a tiny price to pay for not nuking yur system with an improper twitch. :)
[09:21] <stas> capslock-r to bring up the altf2 window
[09:21] <e-type> stas: remap using xmodmap
[09:21] <Arcane> ... Nuking my system?
[09:21] <e-type> stas: http://support.cis.ksu.edu/docs/user/faq/unix/keymaps.html
[09:21] <Arcane> It's already quite nuked, since I can't get apt-get to get a file off my computer and Ubuntu hates my modem.
[09:21] <stas> or ctrl-alt-left to run 3ddesk
[09:22] <stas> thanks, e-type
[09:22] <Fazer_> delire: tell me when you are ready =)
[09:22] <delire> Fazer_: yep back
[09:22] <e-type> stas: the commands executed on keypresses is other stuff than the remapping
[09:22] <graabein> how do i search channels in irc? i forgot
[09:22] <stas> oh
[09:22] <stas> can I do it?
[09:22] <Fazer_> Delgul: Okay...its activingat the interface wlan0
[09:22] <stianh> Hey, I'm trying to access my Creative Zen Touch jukebox with Gnomad2, however, there seems to be some permissionerrors, I only gain access to the content of my mp3-player as root, though it does recognize that the player is connected as a regular user.
[09:22] <stianh> any suggestions?
[09:22] <stas> also, I would really like global xmms shortcuts
[09:22] <stas> like
[09:22] <graabein> x-chat
[09:23] <Arcane> Is there any command to install a package?
[09:23] <stas> caps-z to track back
[09:23] <Arcane> Not from apt-get?
[09:23] <riji> how to give a user right to a dir?
[09:23] <stas> caps-x to play
[09:23] <stas> etc
[09:23] <riji> sudo chmod ????
[09:23] <delire> Fazer_: ok there are two really useful commands for using network devices on linux. 'ifup' == interface up and 'ifdown' == interface down (or off)
[09:23] <delire> Fazer_: try 'ifup wlan0'
[09:23] <Fazer_> delire: Understood.
[09:23] <Fazer_> okay
[09:23] <dazed|class> sup all
[09:23] <vasi> The packages mplayer-powerpc and mplayer-g4 in multiverse are completely broken, there's no executable included. I have a five-line patch which fixes them...where should i send it?
[09:23] <Fazer_> delire: Should I sudo it?
[09:23] <Fazer_> I get permission denied
[09:23] <delire> yep
[09:24] <kent> riji, in the desktop, you can rightclick on folders and change it frome there..    (if its own by root, then sudo chmod..)
[09:24] <Fazer_> okay
[09:24] <_-InMa-_> buenas noches, good nitgh
[09:24] <Fazer_> it says Listening and sending stuff..
[09:24] <delire> good
[09:24] <Fazer_> still no blinking lights.
[09:24] <riji> yeah, but sudo chmod and what else :S
[09:24] <stas> how would I do that?
[09:24] <delire> Fazer_: you want to look for an "offer" from a DHCP server
[09:24] <stas> it was really simple in windows...
[09:25] <Fazer_> delire: "No DCHPFFERS received."
[09:25] <Arcane> Package install? Anyone?
[09:25] <Fazer_> "No workign leases in persisent database - sleeping."
[09:25] <e-type> stas: you mean controlling xmms with the keyboard when xmms doesn't have the focus?
[09:25] <delire> Fazer_: hmm.. ok. so now if you 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' do you see any access points at all?
[09:25] <Fazer_> Nopers
[09:25] <Fazer_> I would if probably my wlan card powers up.
[09:26] <Fazer_> doing 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' also does't do anything
[09:26] <jafar00> hi ubuntu people
[09:26] <delire> Fazer_: ok well it seems that your wlan card is installed and running fine however. are you sure the AP is on?
[09:26] <sklp> hi
[09:26] <Fazer_> delire: definitely./
[09:26] <jafar00> can anyone tell me if ubuntu ppc is any good for a rev d imac?
[09:26] <Fazer_> i am connected to the wifi router (this desktop)
[09:26] <kent> riji, sudo chmod o+r (i think that meens o=other, and r=read.  w=write, and x=write.)
[09:26] <Fazer_> and a while ago, the laptop was also connected to the wifi router via ethernet.
[09:27] <Fazer_> wifi lights are all blinking.
[09:27] <Arcane> Could anyone tell me how to install packages in terminal?
[09:27] <delire> Fazer_: hmm..
[09:27] <jafar00> i tried Mandrake and had trouble with installing the bootloader (yaboot) Does Ubuntu correctly install the bootloader?
[09:27] <delire> Fazer_: does iwconfig list wlan0?
[09:27] <stas> e-type,
[09:27] <Keizer> LMFAO: http://filebox.vt.edu/users/xmayox/5720322434.gif
[09:27] <stas> yes that's what I mean
[09:28] <Fazer_> delire: Yes
[09:28] <stas> particularly if I'm in a full-screen game or something
[09:28] <delire> Arcane: apt-cache search <keyword>, apt-get install <packagename>
[09:28] <Fazer_> IEEE 802.11g
[09:28] <Arcane> ... So you can use apt-get to install a package in the current directory? :\
[09:28] <Arcane> I can't use internet under Ubuntu yet.
[09:28] <delire> Arcane: it will isntall to it's proper place no matter where you invoke the command
[09:29] <Arcane> ... delire, can it install a package that is currently IN the directory?
[09:29] <e-type> stas: use keyboard shortcuts for commands like 'xmms --play'
[09:29] <Arcane> I don't CARE where it install, I wanna know if I can install it from the current directory.
[09:29] <jintxo> Arcane, you should probably do dpkg -i <package> for that
[09:29] <delire> Fazer_: ok.. and you see no listing of the AP with iwlist.. odd
[09:29] <e-type> stas: man xmms tells you all
[09:29] <Fazer_> delire: Yeah =(
[09:29] <delire> Arcane: dpkg -i <pacakge>
[09:29] <Arcane> Thank you. o_o
[09:30] <Arcane> Now I gotta restart etc. Brb, hopefully
[09:30] <delire> Fazer_: <thinks>
[09:30] <jafar00> PPC Ubuntu: Can anyone tell me if it correctly installs te bootloader?
[09:30] <delire> yes it should
[09:31] <stas> ok
[09:31] <stas> that's easy
[09:31] <stas> but
[09:31] <jafar00> delire: thanks. I hope so :)
[09:31] <delire> i've installed Ubuntu on 11 macs
[09:31] <Fazer_> delire: hehe, my ethernet wasn't working much either until crimsun told me some boot parameters.
[09:31] <stas> how do I set up the global shortcuts themselves?
[09:31] <delire> Fazer_: well this should be fine. do you see any errors with the tail command i gave earlier? plugging in it and taking it out..
[09:31] <Fazer_> delire: Nope...
[09:32] <Fazer_> i just see DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0
[09:32] <Fazer_> delire: Maybe i didn't install the driver properly?
[09:32] <jafar00> delire: Have you tried Mandrake on any of them? Did you have the same problem of the bootloader being stuffed up? Mandrake gave me a long command to type in at ofboot, but the abd keyboard on the Imac doesn't have the \ key. LOL
[09:32] <delire> Fazer_: using lspci, can you give me the full output/description of the card (in one line)?
[09:32] <PeteHello> dmesg shows me what hardware is configured right?  How would I check to see if my sound card is recognized?
[09:32] <delire> jafar00: i wouldn't go near mandrake, so no.
[09:33] <jafar00> lol :D
[09:33] <Fazer_> delire: Will do
[09:34] <Fazer_> Network Controler: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown Device 4325 (rev 02)
[09:34] <dantheman> ctrl-alt-backspace quit restarting X
[09:34] <dantheman> any idea how i can change it back?
[09:34] <Fazer_> delire: Network Controler: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown Device 4325 (rev 02)
[09:34] <delire> got it
[09:34] <delire> Fazer_: how did you install the driver?
[09:34] <delire> Fazer_: also.. which kernel version are you running?
[09:35] <Fazer_> delire: using Hoary
[09:35] <Slaven> you guys know of any way to get 3d apps maximizing on one head in a dual screen environment (and not stretching out between two)?
[09:35] <Fazer_> using 2.6.10
[09:35] <delire> ok
[09:35] <Fazer_> I installed it via ndiswrapper
[09:35] <delire> i'll look around. one moment.
[09:36] <Fazer_> sure
[09:37] <Fazer_> delire: I used this URL as a guide as well: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com/2005/02/microsoft-mn-720-driver-update.html
[09:37] <Fazer_> and the How to for broadcom on ubuntu forums
[09:37] <delire> Fazer_: hmm ok.. well i would check this page for more information. it looks like one person who had similar problems had it solved here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2005/01/3/277527
[09:38] <Fazer_> oh, awesome.
[09:38] <delire> Fazer_: sorry i can't be of more help.. it seems to me that i can only go so far without having the card itself. i use a centrino ipw220 card for wifi.
[09:38] <Fazer_> delire: thanks though
[09:38] <delire> np
[09:39] <oxigen> hi all!
[09:39] <oxigen> hmm, if i run "xprop -root" does NAUTILUS_DESKTOP_WINDOW_ID render background?
[09:39] <guru3> delire: it just randomly started working
[09:39] <oxigen> is there a way to render root-tail on desktop?
[09:39] <delire> Slaven: it sounds like you are talking about 'xinerama'?
[09:40] <delire> guru3: did you change/try anything else?
[09:40] <Fazer_> delire: So, I think I will try another driver out.  Do you think I should remove the one I am using?
[09:40] <guru3> delire: i just put it back to the original file with the fbdev device and it magically worked
[09:40] <guru3> i can't explain it
[09:40] <delire> Fazer_: yes, definitely if you want to try another driver
[09:41] <delire> guru3: the clue will be in the differences between the two files then. you can always 'diff <file1> <file2> to see the differences
[09:41] <Fazer_> alright,t hanks.
[09:41] <delire> anytime
[09:41] <guru3> delire: just the device, all i changed
[09:42] <delire> guru3: well that's a big difference ;) what did you change it to?
[09:42] <delire> from/to
[09:42] <guru3> delire: it started out as fbdev
[09:42] <guru3> i just changed it back to that
[09:42] <jinx``> hi
[09:43] <jinx``> is cedega better than wine?`
[09:43] <raydogg_> google "cedega vs wine"
[09:43] <jinx``> :)
[09:43] <Echylo> it depends raydogg_
[09:43] <Echylo> to give a more usefull answer
[09:44] <Echylo> euhm
[09:44] <mjr> cedega's proprietary directx and copy protection support are more advanced to some extent
[09:44] <Echylo> jinx``
[09:44] <Echylo> raydogg_ if everyone had to google for a question In here, it would be empty around here
[09:44] <guru3> any ideas why python fails to configure?
[09:45] <Echylo> google "why does python fails configure" << raydogg_ style :)
[09:45] <Echylo> what did you do guru3 ?
[09:45] <guru3> Echylo: do? nothing
[09:45] <guru3> it's more like what it's _not_ doing
[09:45] <Monni> google "what's the address for google" ;)
[09:45] <dazed> i got a lockup :(*
[09:45] <Echylo> guru3, you probably installed it?
[09:45] <guru3> Echylo: sure, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <guru3> python is a dependency
[09:46] <Echylo> ok
[09:46] <guru3> just the configure of python fails
[09:46] <guru3> with a segfault of some sort
[09:46] <Echylo> hmm
[09:46] <guru3> in the compileall script
[09:46] <Echylo> you tried to install it through synaptic? python 2.4 ?
[09:47] <guru3> apt
[09:47] <guru3> thru apt
[09:47] <Echylo> well ok
[09:47] <guru3> i don't yet have a gui...
[09:47] <cikilin> hello
[09:47] <Echylo> oh ok
[09:47] <Echylo> hey cikilin
[09:47] <cikilin> hi
[09:47] <Echylo> well guru3 wouldn't know how to help you then
[09:47] <Echylo> sorry
[09:47] <guru3> i posted on the forums
[09:47] <guru3> i hope for the best :S
[09:48] <Echylo> :)
[09:48] <cikilin> what command is to find my Mac (Phisical Address):
[09:48] <Zomb> ifconfig
[09:48] <cikilin> and change it?
[09:48] <Zomb> if your driver likes that, yes
[09:48] <Zomb> don't forget to shut the iface down
[09:49] <cikilin> you know in xp i could do that
[09:49] <Zomb> as said, depends on the driver
[09:49] <Zomb> .oO( cheatter )
[09:49] <dazed> im bored :(
[09:49] <pestilence> Fazer_: any luck?
[09:49] <cikilin> k
[09:50] <cikilin> zomb how can i change it?
[09:51] <Echylo> dazed, play supertux
[09:51] <Echylo> :p
[09:51] <dazed> supertux?
[09:51] <mjr> Echylo, thanks for reminding
[09:51] <dazed> i need to get some nix games
[09:51] <mjr> there were some of the bonus levels still...
[09:51] <guru3> hmm, does anyone elses nautilus take 25%+ cpu?
[09:51] <Fazer_> pestilence: omg! hi!
[09:51] <Echylo> yes mjr
[09:51] <Echylo> you can make your own too btw
[09:51] <Fazer_> pestilence: well, I finally got the ethernet to work
[09:52] <Fazer_> had to pass some boot parameters
[09:52] <pestilence> Fazer_: cool
[09:52] <Echylo> dazed , supertux, super mario like
[09:52] <Echylo> but with tux
[09:52] <Fazer_> pestilence: now, I am trying to config. my wifi card
[09:52] <dazed> no way
[09:52] <dazed> thats amazing
[09:52] <Echylo> yea
[09:52] <dazed> i have to get it
[09:52] <Echylo> sudo apt-get install supertux
[09:52] <pestilence> Fazer_: so did you install?
[09:52] <dazed> tux is my favorite ever
[09:52] <pestilence> Fazer_: or still livecd
[09:52] <dazed> is tuxkart like mario kart?
[09:52] <Fazer_> pestilence: Still live cd
[09:52] <Echylo> I completed it btw
[09:52] <Echylo> 26 levels
[09:52] <Fazer_> if my wifi card works, then i will go with the install.
[09:52] <pestilence> Fazer_: you in it right now?
[09:52] <Fazer_> pestilence: I am on my desktop with the lappy right beside me
[09:53] <dazed> really?!? thats awesome
[09:53] <dantheman> if i ssh into another computer
[09:53] <Fazer_> so, anything you say, I can just tyype itu p.
[09:53] <dantheman> and i hit emacs afileontheothercomputer &
[09:53] <guru3> im starting to think that im trying to do too much at once on my system...
[09:53] <Fazer_> right now i have my wlan card plugged in, i can plug in my ethernet card and then I will be on the internet with my livecd.
[09:53] <dantheman> it gives me a "Suspended (tty output)"
[09:53] <dantheman> how can i actually see the file in emacs from the other computer
[09:53] <dantheman> ?
[09:54] <pestilence> Fazer_: so did you try installing ndiswrapper-utils?
[09:54] <guru3> holy FZK i had no idea that xforwarding was enabled when i launched synaptic in an ssh connection ><
[09:54] <guru3> well, i wondered what it was like but...
[09:54] <dantheman> i try gedit, and it says "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[09:54] <guru3> not how i wanted to find out ><
[09:54] <Fazer_> pestilence: Oh yes, I used that .deb from my usb drive =)
[09:54] <sklp> dazed, get apt-get install bsdgames and play snake, it owns :)
[09:55] <pestilence> Fazer_: so what seems to be the problem
[09:55] <Echylo> supertux!
[09:55] <Fazer_> pestilence: well, my wlan card just doesn't get on the network, not to mention, the lights don't blink/turn on
[09:55] <sklp> supertux is fine, tho... u finished it ? :)
[09:55] <sklp> i did
[09:55] <sklp> a long time ago
[09:55] <dazed> Echylo: is tuxkart like mariokart?
[09:56] <Echylo> sort of
[09:56] <Echylo> it's not that fun
[09:56] <delire_> pestilence: with iwlist wlan0 scanning he sees no AP, so he's not associating.
[09:56] <dazed> really?
[09:56] <dazed> super tux is better?
[09:56] <Fazer_> bah phone
[09:56] <pestilence> Fazer_: if there are no lights, then i would say ndiswrapper didn't work
[09:56] <dantheman> i need help using X over ssh
[09:56] <dantheman> can anyone help me?
[09:56] <Echylo> dazed try it!
[09:56] <useruser> dantheman: ssh -X
[09:56] <Echylo> Bonus Isle Castle level is pretty hard
[09:57] <delire_> dantheman: have you enables X Forwarding?
[09:57] <dazed> Echylo: im getting both right now im just debating which one to play first :)
[09:57] <Fazer_> pestilence: damn
[09:57] <delire_> s/enables/enabled
[09:57] <Fazer_> The other mn-720 user did it on his blog with SuSe 9.2
[09:57] <dazed> Echylo: are they full screen?
[09:57] <Echylo> jup
[09:57] <pestilence> Fazer_: what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?
[09:58] <Fazer_> pestilence: I just removed the driver, but it used to tell me that mn720-ankh driver present, hardware present
[09:58] <pestilence> Fazer_: strange.
[09:58] <Fazer_> very
[09:59] <dantheman> i used ssh -X, and it worked
[09:59] <dazed> Fazer_: you get eth0 to work?
[09:59] <Kishu> does linux work with 64k FAT32?
[09:59] <tommy> hi
[09:59] <sklp> supertux is a lot better than tux kart IMHO
[09:59] <Fazer_> dazed: yes!!
[09:59] <dazed> Fazer_: good good what was going on?
[10:00] <Echylo> wtfeck
[10:00] <Fazer_> dazed: I guess i was running with some broken hardware or something, i had to pass some boot parameters
[10:00] <Fazer_> like, noacpi and stuff like that
[10:00] <dazed> Fazer_: ahhh yeah i have to run that righ tnow
[10:00] <dazed> lol
[10:00] <Kishu> Does linux support 64k clusters with FAT32?
[10:00] <Fazer_> ah, hehe
[10:00] <dazed> Fazer_: or else i get lockups every 3 - 12 minutes
[10:00] <Fazer_> dazed: Ah, I see.
[10:01] <superted> I have done dpkg reconfigure locales and chose my correct layoyt, but I can't get norwegian characters in aterm, everything else works, any idea?
[10:02] <Fazer_> maybe I will try another driver or somethign I guess.
[10:02] <pestilence> Fazer_: so can you reinstall the mn720-ankh driver
[10:02] <Fazer_> pestilence: I did that twice =) same effect.
[10:02] <pestilence> Fazer_: and modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:02] <pestilence> Fazer_: and see what lspci tells you?
[10:02] <Fazer_> pestilence: yeah, i did the modprobe and what not.
[10:02] <pestilence> Fazer_: ok.
[10:02] <Fazer_> I also had to do a sed command.
[10:02] <pestilence> Fazer_: maybe it's the wrong driver then.
[10:03] <Fazer_> I then did sudo network-manager, I see the network card and what not
[10:03] <Fazer_> I guess it isn't seeing an acess point.
[10:03] <Fazer_> Yeah, seems strange.
[10:04] <guru3> i get this error launching gnome: "** (gnome-cups-icon:9462): WARNING **: failed request with status 1030"
[10:04] <pestilence> Fazer_: so iwconfig shows a card?
[10:04] <guru3> any ideas ne1?
[10:04] <Fazer_> pestilence: Yeah
[10:04] <Fazer_> It shows it as a Braodcom Corporation one.
[10:04] <TTT_Travis> does ubuntu run on old hardware ( Pentium 133Mhz with 80MB or ram)
[10:05] <djm62> 546 peeples? :)
[10:05] <pestilence> Fazer_: oh.
[10:06] <pestilence> Fazer_: so, my card won't do iwlist scanning either.
[10:06] <Fazer_> pestilence: What card do you have?
[10:06] <johns^> TTT_Travis: yep id does
[10:06] <johns^> it
[10:06] <pestilence> Fazer_: so you might not be totally out of luck.  did you try just setting the AP ESSID?
[10:06] <johns^> at least, warty does
[10:07] <Fazer_> pestilence: What do you mean AP ESSID?
[10:07] <pestilence> Fazer_: mine is a mini-pci card, installed by gateway
[10:07] <Fazer_> Hmm
[10:07] <dcraven> Fazer_, the Broadcom will scan.
[10:07] <Fazer_> dcraven: how do I set that?
[10:08] <Fazer_> but shouldn't it just pick up any wifi networks out there?
[10:08] <pestilence> Fazer_: you just say "iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID" where MYESSID is your essid.
[10:08] <dcraven> Fazer_, iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:08] <Fazer_> hmmm
[10:08] <Fazer_> let me install it again.
[10:08] <dcraven> Fazer_, are you using the ndiswrapper that came with the kernel? I had to compile version 1.1 before it would work.
[10:08] <Fazer_> dcraven: No, remember that .deb you found for me?
[10:09] <Fazer_> I am using that one.
[10:09] <dcraven> Fazer_, I found you a deb? From where?
[10:09] <Fazer_> oh wait, that was for pestilence not you, sorry
[10:09] <guru3> lol
[10:09] <dcraven> heh
[10:09] <pestilence> Fazer_: it was me that found the deb.  and it's in hoary, assuming you are using a hoary livecd
[10:09] <Fazer_> pestilence: correct, I am.
[10:09] <pestilence> Fazer_: i found it on an official repository
[10:09] <Fazer_> but, just to be sure, how shall I check the version?  ndiswrapper -v ?
[10:09] <dcraven> Fazer_, what kernel are you using?
[10:10] <Fazer_> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386
[10:10] <djm62> When I start my laptop up offline, it takes a while to check for the non-existent network connection...is there a recommended way to stop this?
[10:10] <pestilence> Fazer_: so, that version of ndiswrapper works with that kernel.
[10:10] <pestilence> Fazer_: i have a laptop that uses it right now.
[10:10] <Fazer_> pestilence: Alright, so, let me install it again.
[10:10] <dcraven> hmmm.. Mine's compiled for 686...
[10:11] <dcraven> pestilence, is yours a Broadcom?
[10:11] <pestilence> dcraven: he's using the ubuntu package, compiled for that kernel
[10:11] <ritalin> hello
[10:11] <pestilence> dcraven: no.
[10:11] <ritalin> Im in need of some assistance
[10:11] <ritalin> I was using synaptic and it crashed
[10:11] <ritalin> now whenever i try to install something i get this
[10:11] <dcraven> pestilence, okay. I'm just saying that the Ubuntu package didn't work for my Broadcom. If it'll work for him, then great.
[10:11] <pestilence> dcraven: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[10:11] <falkem_v4> do you know a good tool for making parts in HD? is parted the right answer?
[10:11] <ritalin> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[10:11] <ritalin>  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release powerpc (20050407)'
[10:11] <ritalin> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[10:12] <dcraven> pestilence, yeah. But it no workie for me.
[10:12] <ritalin> you guys ever seen this?
[10:12] <pestilence> dcraven: ah.
[10:12] <djm62> falkem_v4: parted is good, or a graphical shell for parted
[10:12] <Fazer_> bah, strange, i see the .inf file right there but it says its not found.
[10:12] <ritalin> sudo apt-get update works but whenever I try to install something with either synaptic or apt-get i get that error
[10:13] <pestilence> Fazer_: you have a .sys file too?
[10:13] <dcraven> ritalin, is the CDROM source in your sources.list?
[10:13] <djm62> falkem_v4: bear in mind resizing mounted disks NOT recommended...you can boot from a parted floppy (or livecd with parted)
[10:13] <Fazer_> pestilence: yes
[10:13] <riji> how kan i give me all the dir.rights with sudo chmod? i can change the rights but i can't give me acces to them :S
[10:13] <Fazer_> oh wait, i was using the wrong command, heh.
[10:13] <Fazer_> okay, so its installed.
[10:13] <falkem_v4> where do I get such a graphical shell...thx for answering...I'm just a noob,yo know
[10:13] <Fazer_> It forces radio sates
[10:13] <falkem_v4> of course....
[10:13] <pestilence> Fazer_: do you know the essid for your wireless network?
[10:14] <Fazer_> pestilence: by that yu mean, the name?
[10:14] <djm62> falkem_v4: I think qparted is still current
[10:14] <pestilence> Fazer_: yes.  default is sometimes "linksys" :)
[10:14] <stas> thank you e-type
[10:14] <Fazer_> ah, mine is "Go Away"
[10:14] <dcraven> riji, directories need to be executable (x) for you to enter them. Is that what you mean?
[10:14] <ritalin> dcraven, you the man :)
[10:14] <stas> you have solved my questions perfectly!
[10:14] <stas> :)
[10:14] <stas> I have more though ;p
[10:14] <pestilence> Fazer_: i didn't know you could have spaces.
[10:14] <dcraven> ritalin, glad it worked.
[10:15] <riji> no i can enter them, but i can't add files to them och change them :S
[10:15] <Fazer_> pestilence: Yeah, strange, XP shows it as "Go Away"
[10:15] <Fazer_> withot the quotes ofcourse.
[10:15] <dcraven> riji, och?
[10:15] <ritalin> I guess i should stay clear of synaptic
[10:15] <Fazer_> alright, so, how shall i scan?
[10:15] <riji> opps
[10:15] <riji> och = and
[10:15] <Burgundavia> ritalin, why do you say that
[10:16] <pestilence> Fazer_: anyways.  you should try 'iwconfig wlan0 essid "Go Away" key off' assuming you are not using WEP
[10:16] <ritalin> It crashed on me and updated my sources.list
[10:16] <dcraven> ritalin, I've never seen it crash. Must be a fluke. It would be helpful if you could reproduce it.
[10:16] <riji> swedish :$
[10:16] <mainer> riji: edit permissions as rot and save
[10:16] <ritalin> well im on ppc
[10:16] <pestilence> Fazer_: and then iwconfig to see if it worked
[10:16] <ritalin> and was running kde at the time
[10:16] <ritalin> maybe that had something to do with it
[10:16] <mainer> or i should sau sudo su
[10:16] <dcraven> Oh.
[10:16] <ritalin> kubuntu
[10:16] <Fazer_> pestilence: Hmm, I am using WEP, so how shall I input it?
[10:17] <riji> well i can only do that with sudo chmod... but i can't/don't know how to give my account the rights
[10:17] <dcraven> ritalin, there is a kynaptic no?
[10:17] <pestilence> Fazer_: iwconfig wlan0 essid "Go Away" key open "YOURKEYGOESHERE"
[10:17] <delire> Fazer_: jesus you didn't say you were using WEP ;)
[10:17] <ritalin> dcraven, yes but it isnt as featureful
[10:17] <PeteHello> My sound doesnt work.  Can anyone start me off on some trouble shooting?
[10:17] <delire> hehe
[10:17] <Fazer_> delire: Lol, sorry!  I thought that owuld be default knowledge that you would be using WEP!
[10:17] <dcraven> riji, you can make your user the owner of the file/dir if you do "chown username:username foo".
[10:18] <delire> Fazer_: well i don't on my AP's WEP is fairly easy to crack. i use MAC addresses for security ;)
[10:18] <pestilence> Fazer_: also, scanning will not work if your AP doesn't broadcast it's essid
[10:18] <riji> that was what i was looking for
[10:18] <burgermann> lo :)
[10:18] <riji> thx
[10:18] <dcraven> riji, no problem.
[10:18] <LinuxJones> PeteHello, do you have a music file that you can try to play in rhythmbox, preferable a .ogg music file ?
[10:18] <delire> Fazer_: anyway, you weren't even seeing the AP so i guess it's a problem with ndiswrapper..
[10:18] <Fazer_> delire: Aah< isee.
[10:18] <burgermann> I need to copy my KDE session/profile onto another machine, any tricks as to how I do that?
[10:19] <Fazer_> pestilence: Yeah, so, I did that, and i did iwconfig
[10:19] <Fazer_> still nothingl.
[10:19] <Fazer_> *nothing
[10:19] <dcraven> Fazer_, if you get that stock module to work, please let me know.
[10:19] <Fazer_> dcraven: Stock module?
[10:19] <pestilence> Fazer_: what do you mean by nothing
[10:19] <Fazer_> pestilence: As in no change in iwconfig
[10:19] <dcraven> Fazer_, the stock ndiswrapper module.
[10:19] <Fazer_> dcraven: Ah okay.
[10:19] <dcraven> Fazer_, the one you're workin' on right now with pestilence .
[10:19] <Cred> Hello. Could someone here try to help me out with Hauppauge WinTV DVB-T, I don't seem to get it to work.
[10:20] <Fazer_> dcraven: Yeah, gotcha.
[10:20] <Fazer_> Btw, the channel that I am broadcasting it on is 6
[10:20] <dcraven> Fazer_, is it a BCM4306 chipset?
[10:20] <pestilence> Fazer_: it shows 44:44:44:44:44... as the AP?
[10:20] <Fazer_> pestilence: No, its a bunch of OOs
[10:20] <Fazer_> 00:00:00:00:00:00
[10:20] <PeteHello> LinuxJones, I have mp3's that I can get off my NTFS partition, and some MPC's.  No .ogg files
[10:20] <Fazer_> dcraven: NOt sure, how shall I check?
[10:20] <dcraven> Fazer_, lspci
[10:20] <Fazer_> dcraven: yeah that just occured to me.
[10:21] <pestilence> Fazer_: when you entered the key, did you enter a passphrase, or the hexidecimal key?
[10:21] <LinuxJones> PeteHello, ok you will have to search the website for "restricted formats" it will tell you how to get mp3 playback capabilities.
[10:21] <Fazer_> pestilence: passprhase, shit, so I should prefix it with s: ?
[10:21] <PeteHello> I have xmms installed, does it come with mp3 playback?
[10:21] <pestilence> Fazer_: yep.
[10:21] <dcraven> I'd suggest disabling WEP until you get it connecting.
[10:22] <dcraven> But that's just me :)
[10:22] <Fazer_> hmm, i did that whole iwconfig wlan0 esside "Go Away" key open "s:BALHBLAH"
[10:22] <Xgates> this seems odd on my box if I kill 'hotplug' then at bootup I get this message --> *ror* Temporay name resolution failure
[10:22] <mainer> burgerman: hidden file in/home .kde copy it to wherever ,a floppy,cd-rw etc or just e-mail,or ftp to other machine
[10:22] <Fazer_> still, the access point is 00:00:00:00:00:00
[10:22] <LinuxJones> PeteHello, no check here >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:22] <burgermann> does anyone know how to copy a user profile in KDE onto another pc?
[10:22] <burgermann> oh
[10:22] <Xgates> I mean what the heck does hotplug have to do with name resolution in Ubuntu
[10:22] <Xgates> LOL
[10:22] <burgermann> mainer, thx :)
[10:22] <Fazer_> dcraven: Heh, not sure...I think I might..
[10:23] <mainer> n.p.
[10:23] <Fazer_> dcraven: Btw, lspci shows "Network COntroller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown Device 4325"
[10:23] <Fazer_> pestilence: I didn't do the "sed" commands from that howto you sent me yesterday
[10:23] <dcraven> Fazer_, that's not reassuring.
[10:23] <Fazer_> dcraven: What, the lspci or the sed command ?
[10:24] <jgeorgeson> anyone know to debug "Configuring Network Interfaces" taking over a minute when 'lo' is the only interface set to 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:24] <dcraven> Fazer_, lspci... hehe
[10:24] <Fazer_> dcraven: aah
[10:24] <Fazer_> then I guess its the driver.
[10:24] <dcraven> Fazer_, I'll leave you guys alone and stop interrupting now.
[10:24] <Fazer_> dcraven: Its alright, I don't mind =/
[10:24] <dcraven> Fazer_, pestilence might :)
[10:24] <delire> jgeorgeson: odd
[10:24] <pestilence> Fazer_: i don't know if the sed stuff was neccessary
[10:24] <pestilence> dcraven: no worries
[10:24] <dcraven> heh
[10:24] <delire> jgeorgeson: ifconfig gives you no other used interfaces?
[10:25] <Marble2> how do I get the XScreenSaver daemon to stay running, once I start it, lock my screen, and unlock it, it stops running
[10:25] <Marble2> any ideas?
[10:25] <Fazer_> pestilence: well, i did try it earlier on, still no luck though
[10:25] <dcraven> jgeorgeson, I get the same.. Takes forever to boot. Low priority though I suppose here.
[10:26] <burgermann> would anyone know a KDE application that synchronizes with sony ericsson phones?
[10:26] <kent> Marble2, have you filed a bug about it in bugzilla.ubuntu.org?
[10:26] <Fazer_> hmmm...
[10:26] <delire> dcraven: so does a '/etc/init.d/networking restart' also take a long time on 'lo'?
[10:26] <Fazer_> i think I will tryt his:
[10:26] <Fazer_> http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf
[10:26] <Marble2> kent: no
[10:26] <Fazer_> instead of the .inf i already have
[10:27] <dcraven> burgermann, I don't know, but you may have better luck asking that in #kubuntu.
[10:27] <astro76> burgermann: I have no idea what it supports, but there's http://kandy.kde.org/
[10:27] <delire> burgermann: http://google.com/linux
[10:27] <thully> does anyone know how I would sort a directory full of MP3s into directories based on their tags?  iTunes does this on Windows, but rhythmbox doesn't on Linux.
[10:27] <dcraven> delire, I dunno.
[10:28] <thully> I use gtkpod - but that's just to transfer mp3s to an iPod - I want to sort them into directories so it's easier to just add 1 album, for instance, to my sync list
[10:29] <delire> thully: 'apt-cache search id3 tag' and se what you come up with. an 'apt-cache show <name>' will give you a summary
[10:29] <dcraven> delire, I just did /etc/init.d/networking restart now and it only took ~5 seconds.
[10:29] <kent> Marble2, filing a bug about it is a good way to make sure you will get some response.  Sometimes the people on irc cant help :(
[10:29] <Fazer_> http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf
[10:29] <ubuntu> thanks
[10:29] <Marble2> k
[10:29] <delire> dcraven: well that makes little sense!
[10:30] <jgeorgeson> delire, I have eth0 (onboard ethernet) and eth1 (pcmcia wifi), but neither are set to auto as I rarely have an ethernet cable plugged in and the wifi isn't loaded until pcmcia comes online later
[10:31] <xukun> tried everything but I my screen is broken after installing the nvidia driver. please this photo,s to see what I mean: http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~ahassan/photo/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0
[10:31] <dcraven> delire, actually it might... I haven't rebooted since I commented out "auto eth0" in /etc/networking/interfaces... haha. I just took a quick stab at a solution this morning but never tested it.
[10:31] <pestilence> Fazer_: you might also try changing "open" to "restricted"
[10:31] <pestilence> Fazer_: in the iwconfig command
[10:32] <delire> jgeorgeson: what happens if you 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'?
[10:32] <Fazer_> oh, so its just a parameter?
[10:32] <jgeorgeson> delire, the only thing i can think of is the hotplug stuff in /etc/network/interfaces, which has a 'map eth0' line I think. not at my ubuntu machine right now
[10:32] <delire> jgeorgeson: does it sit on 'lo' for 5 minutes?
[10:32] <delire> jgeorgeson: right.. could be it yes.
[10:32] <pestilence> Fazer_: also, this leads me to believe that you will be successful if you stick to it long enough
[10:32] <Arcane> ... dhcp3 keeps telling me my subnet mask or whatever isn't correst.
[10:32] <pestilence> Fazer_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2100
[10:32] <Arcane> Correct.
[10:32] <pestilence> Fazer_: look at the output from lspci at the bottom...matches yours
[10:32] <jgeorgeson> delire, it doesn't mention specific interfaces. the line is just "Configuring Network Interfaces"
[10:32] <Fazer_> hmmm
[10:32] <LinuxJones> PeteHello, I am going afk for about an hour
[10:33] <djm62> jgeorg: I have the same thing
[10:33] <djm62> not the end of the world, but I wouldn't mind a solution
[10:33] <Fazer_> pestilence: yes yes it does!
[10:33] <jgeorgeson> delire,  what docs would I check to see what the hotplug stuff is actually doing?
[10:34] <PeteHello> LinuxJones, ok, thanks.  I'm reading up on that website.
[10:34] <pestilence> Fazer_: and if you search for "MicroSuck" on this page: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List
[10:34] <pestilence> Fazer_: you will see that somebody has it working :)
[10:34] <Fazer_> haha
[10:34] <delire> jgeorgeson: i would look in the hotplug service script first /etc/init.d/hotplug
[10:34] <Fazer_> yeah, i saw that a while ago!
[10:34] <djm62> jgeorgeson: if you mostly always use wifi, you could shift the order in /etc/rc2.d/ so that pcmcia comes up first
[10:34] <pestilence> Fazer_: so, try this one:  http://ankhcraft.com/drivers/mn720-ankh.zip
[10:34] <delire> jgeorgeson: then examine any one of the files listed in the hotplug manpage.
[10:35] <sherdog> Hi all
[10:35] <sherdog> Is Ubunto install more or less the same as debian?
[10:35] <jgeorgeson> djm62, yeah, but it shouldn't be configuring interfaces that aren't marked auto, and it seems like it is
[10:35] <pestilence> sherdog: more or less.  it generally asks far less questions
[10:36] <Fazer_> pestilence: haha yeah,t hats the first thing I tried
[10:36] <^thehatsrule^> bah
[10:36] <Fazer_> that was the original one I was using.
[10:36] <sherdog> pestilence Thx.. Looking forward to it
[10:36] <queuetue> How would you guys do fax-merges, if you had to?
[10:36] <sherdog> Have anyone tried install in VMware yet?
[10:36] <Fazer_> pestilence: i think itm ight be because of the boot parameters I have to the LiveCD?
[10:36] <pestilence> Fazer_: what boot parameters are you passing?
[10:36] <Fazer_> pestilence: Hmm, I forgot, do you know how I can check?
[10:37] <Legirons> can anyone tell me the default user password for kubuntu liveCD?
[10:37] <dcraven> sherdog, if you just want to play, maybe check out the LiveCD?
[10:37] <Fazer_> I think there's a command for it.
[10:37] <Riddell> Legirons: there isn't one
[10:37] <Legirons> blank?
[10:37] <pestilence> Fazer_: don't know.
[10:37] <Fazer_> hmm, hold, i wrote it down on my PDA
[10:37] <dcraven> Fazer_, cat /proc/cmdline
[10:37] <Fazer_> aah there we go
[10:37] <Fazer_> thanks dcraven
[10:37] <sherdog> dcraven And keep windoze? Hehe, no way!
[10:37] <dcraven> Sure.
[10:38] <delire> jgeorgeson: sadly hotplug itself isn't very rich in output. you may be best off looking at dmesg, ot even 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' when you restart the network services
[10:38] <Arcane> What's an NTP server. :\
[10:38] <dcraven> sherdog, wouldn't you be keeping Windows if you used VMWare?
[10:38] <sherdog> Hehe, Its the install I need to test first.. :)
[10:38] <dcraven> sherdog, I see.
[10:38] <Fazer_> pestilence: I gave it "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi"
[10:39] <omeg> I'm using warty. It seems that I can't change anything in the screen options apart from refresh rate and resolution. Is this fixed in the latest release?
[10:39] <dcraven> Arcane, it's a server that disperses the time and data.
[10:39] <Fazer_> pestilence: Hmm...you wouldn't believe this.
[10:39] <Fazer_> I removed the wifi card from the slot, put it on the slot above it
[10:39] <Fazer_> and type in lspci
[10:39] <Fazer_> it gives some other crap shit
[10:39] <Fazer_> like the model number!
[10:39] <pestilence> Fazer_: there's an easy way to tell.  reboot without those parameters :)
[10:40] <delire> hehe weird
[10:40] <Fazer_> pestilence: If i do, then i can't use ethernet or usb!
[10:40] <djm62> jgeorgeson: if the lo section right?
[10:40] <delire> Fazer_: try looking for an AP with the card in the top slot
[10:40] <Arcane> Ah. I gotta reboot AGAIN.
[10:40] <Fazer_> delire: Damn, i do iwconfig and I don't see wlan0 anywhere.
[10:40] <dcraven> Arcane, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol
[10:40] <jgeorgeson> djm62, ?
[10:41] <delire> Fazer_: ifup wlan0
[10:41] <Fazer_> the hel..
[10:41] <Fazer_> "No such device"
[10:41] <dcraven> These ex-Windows people.. Always rebootin'.
[10:41] <Bazzi> heh
[10:42] <delire> Fazer_: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[10:42] <pestilence> Fazer_: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[10:42] <djm62> jgeorgeson: I'm baffled, assuming my script is identical to yours
[10:42] <pestilence> Fazer_: perhaps rmmod ndiswrapper and then modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:42] <omeg> It seems that I can't change anything in the screen options apart from refresh rate and resolution in Warty. Is this fixed in the latest release?
[10:42] <delire> Fazer_L plug and unplug... hey i'll leave you too it pestilence/Fazer (i don't have the same card..)
[10:42] <pune> hey can someone help me I'm trying to configure my wireless card
[10:42] <onno> How do you send something to device NULL or the black hole
[10:43] <dcraven> omeg, what else is there?
[10:43] <delire> cat file /dev/null
[10:43] <Fazer_> bahthe hell...
[10:43] <onno> when you type command line and want the output in device null
[10:43] <delire> cat file > /dev/null
[10:43] <Fazer_> delire: I plug it back in to the first slot, it still says no such device.
[10:43] <delire> i meant to say... ;)
[10:43] <onno> ok
[10:43] <onno> so anycommand > /dev/null
[10:43] <jgeorgeson> djm62, i just didn't understand you question about lo. I have 'auto lo' in my /etc/network/interfaces but that's the loopback so it shouldn't take any time to configure
[10:43] <djm62> onno: yeah
[10:43] <delire> sure
[10:43] <onno> ok thanxs poeple
[10:43] <Fazer_> pestilence: when I put it on the other slot, it says that the driver is present but the hardware isn't there.
[10:43] <Fazer_> so shall I re-install the drivers?
[10:43] <omeg> [22:43]  <dcraven> omeg, what else is there? <-- in the version I'm using, apparently Warty (4, I believe), I can only set pre-defined resolutions + refresh rate. And that's it.
[10:44] <delire> Fazer_: i really think your ndiswrapper is totally screwy. what if you load|unload the wrapper??
[10:44] <pestilence> Fazer_: did you try rmmod ndisrapper and then modprobe ndiswrapper?
[10:44] <pestilence> what he said.
[10:44] <djm62> jgeorgeson: and if that's the only auto option, the only reason for delay would be 'wrong lo config' (which I know is crazy)
[10:44] <omeg> I mean, Ubuntu defaults to 24-bit apparently, and I can't even set it to 32-bit in Gnome
[10:45] <Fazer_> pestilence: wait, when I did lsmod , it says ndiswrapper         10904   0
[10:45] <Fazer_> * 109044
[10:45] <Fazer_> but yeah, let me try that
[10:45] <delire> omeg: there is no '32 bit'. it's a marketing fake
[10:45] <restrex> is 24 the same as 32 bit? I think it's
[10:45] <jgeorgeson> djm62, ah. i suppose you're right, but lo should have a correct configuration out of the box
[10:45] <dcraven> fakers.
[10:45] <webtoe> omeg: 24bit is 32bit, the extra bits aren't meaning anything
[10:45] <delire> restrex: yes..
[10:45] <djm62> jgeorgeson: what do you have in pcmcia and what's pci?
[10:45] <delire> the extra 8 bits are marketing fuzz
[10:46] <Fazer_> pestilence: I tried that, still nothing.
[10:46] <restrex> jeje
[10:46] <Fazer_> should re-install the drivers?
[10:46] <omeg> But still. What if I need to set it to 8-bit or 16-bit?
[10:46] <jgeorgeson> my wifi card is pcmcia (i have a linksys wpc11v3 and a cisco aironet 340). the ethernet is onboard rather than mini-pci
[10:46] <omeg> I'd have to edit the config.
[10:46] <jgeorgeson> neither are marked auto
[10:46] <pestilence> Fazer_: bummer.  i gotta work now, you'll figure it out eventually :)
[10:46] <pune> hey I'm trying to configure my wireless card
[10:47] <omeg> My point is that the resolution options panel in Warty is limited to just pre-defined resolutions and refresh rate.
[10:47] <webtoe> Fazer_: do you see your card listed at all with /sbin/lspci -v
[10:47] <delire> omeg: well do it. 24bit is as good as it gets. a gazillion colours ;)
[10:47] <Fazer_> pestilence:Ah, thanks a lot for your help man.
[10:47] <Fazer_> webtoe: Hmm, let me try that out
[10:47] <dcraven> omeg, to answer your question, it has not changed in Hoary.
[10:47] <pune> however, it won't configure right
[10:47] <omeg> Hmm.
[10:47] <omeg> I see.
[10:47] <restrex> omeg you can configure with mayors resolutions by configuring your x server: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[10:47] <GhostFreeman> guys
[10:47] <Fazer_> webtoe: yes, I do, at the bottom.
[10:47] <omeg> I personally find that a little lacking. But I guess developers have other priorities.
[10:47] <Fazer_> i also see this beneeath it
[10:48] <Fazer_> webtoe: "!!! Unknown header type 7f"
[10:48] <GhostFreeman> Under GPL, can I distribute a program's documentation under another license, such as Creative Commons?
[10:48] <delire> omeg: if you so as restrex wisely suggests, make sure you back up your original config
[10:48] <webtoe> ok, and you have the windows 2000 driver for your card? and the ndiswrapper ?
[10:48] <dcraven> omeg, patches welcome =P
[10:48] <SeamusLP> pune:  Whats wrong with it?
[10:48] <Fazer_> webtoe: yeap.
[10:48] <dcraven> omeg, don't you hate it when people say that? ahah
[10:48] <webtoe> and do you have the kernel headers installed?
[10:48] <omeg> =)
[10:48] <dcraven> True though.
[10:48] <pune> SeamusLP, well, it seems to have the driver installed but the lights aren't turning on
[10:49] <Fazer_> webtoe: how do I check that? i am on the livecd just so you know.
[10:49] <dcraven> Fazer_ almost makes me want to get back to finishing my ndiswrapper howto...
[10:49] <delire> pune: what card?
[10:49] <Fazer_> dcraven: Hehe, that might be helpful to thers.
[10:49] <webtoe> Fazer_:  are you using ndiswrapper from the livecd? or is it downloaded of the ndis wrapper website?
[10:49] <jinx``> what to do when a umount /cdrom fails ?
[10:49] <Fazer_> webtoe: No, I installed it from the deb.
[10:49] <delire> jinx`` umount -l
[10:49] <pune> SeamusLP,  dell truemobile 1310
[10:50] <Fazer_> pesti_away said himself that it is fine.
[10:50] <delire> pune meet Fazer_
[10:50] <djm62> jinx``: or lsof | grep cdrom
[10:50] <onno> thxs love you guys
[10:50] <mcphail> jinx``: eject
[10:50] <Fazer_> hehe
[10:50] <djm62> jinx``: to see what processes are accessing it, and kill them
[10:50] <delire> jinx``: make sure you're not 'in' the /cdrom directory at the time.. ;)
[10:50] <pune> delire, what's Fazer
[10:50] <Fazer_> HI
[10:50] <omeg> Also, Warty didn't support my TFT's native resolution when I installed it. 1920x1200.
[10:50] <dcraven> jintxo, or try "umount /media/cdrom" since that is where it likely is.
[10:50] <delire> pune a person with the same problem as you i suspect.
[10:51] <omeg> I edited the config file and added it, but it still didn't show up even after a cold reboot.
[10:51] <mcphail> jinx``: honestly - just type eject
[10:51] <pune> delire, lol, oh, sorry
[10:51] <delire> np ;)
[10:51] <omeg> Is that fixed in the latest release?
[10:51] <Fazer_> pune: what card you using?
[10:51] <pune> Fazer_, a Dell truemobile 1310
[10:51] <dcraven> omeg, added what?
[10:51] <webtoe> Fazer_: let me have a quick look at the docs and remind myself how to use ndiswrapper
[10:51] <webtoe> its been awhile
[10:51] <Fazer_> webtoe: Sure.
[10:51] <omeg> dcraven: support for 1920x1200.
[10:51] <Fazer_> pune: Hmm, what driver are you using?
[10:51] <pune> Fazer_, all drivers seem to be installed correctly but the lights won't turn on
[10:51] <raydogg_> omeg, i had that issue too
[10:51] <dcraven> Oh my.
[10:51] <Fazer_> bcmwl5.inf ?
[10:51] <djm62> jgeorgeson: I get slightly annoyed by the same kind of thing...but not yet annoyed enough to solve it, because it's only occasional (sorry)
[10:52] <omeg> It wasn't an option when installing--but even after editing the config file, it just didn't show up.
[10:52] <pune> Fazer_, bcmlw5a.inf
[10:52] <omeg> This is Warty I'm talking about.
[10:52] <pune> Fazer_, I think
[10:52] <Fazer_> pune: that is what I am using as well.
[10:52] <Fazer_> pune: type this: sudo ndiswrapper -l
[10:52] <Fazer_> that will list the installed drivers that you havel
[10:52] <SeamusLP> pune, fazer:  You guys are using dell laptops I take it?
[10:52] <jgeorgeson> djm62, well, i figure since i won't get acpi to work i may as well get this thing taken care of
[10:52] <Fazer_> SeamusLP: No, I am using a Thinkpad 600e With a wlan card.
[10:52] <mjr> omeg, I'm still skeptical that it's a vesa mode
[10:52] <delire> jgeorgeson: what machine are you using?
[10:53] <pune> Fazer_, ok, yeah and it says it's installed as well as hardware present
[10:53] <omeg> Hmm.
[10:53] <omeg> vesa is my driver
[10:53] <pune> SeamusLP, yeah
[10:53] <omeg> I used ati before
[10:53] <dcraven> omeg, are the VertRefresh and HorizSync settings acurate in your config for your monitor?
[10:53] <Fazer_> pune: Hmm...what do you get when you type in lspci
[10:53] <webtoe> Fazer_: have you installed the windows drivers with ndiswrapper -i /path/to/drivers
[10:53] <omeg> But it didn't work
[10:53] <Fazer_> webtoe: Yeap.
[10:53] <omeg> I had to edit the config just to change it to vesa
[10:53] <ubuntugeek> ubuntuforums will be right back.. switching servers incase anyone is wondering..
[10:53] <webtoe> k
[10:53] <SeamusLP> pune:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell   see if there's any info on your model
[10:53] <jgeorgeson> a dell inspiron 2600 w\ i830m graphics chip
[10:53] <alexwillmer> evening all, this should be a simple query. I wish to grep for lines matching regexp1 or regexp2 but I'm getting the wrong syntax. What is the correct form of this command:
[10:53] <omeg> [22:53]  <dcraven> omeg, are the VertRefresh and HorizSync settings acurate in your config for your monitor? <-- How do you mean?
[10:53] <omeg> Like, hardware?
[10:53] <pune> SeamusLP, 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[10:54] <webtoe> Fazer_: and it says that the driver is loaded properly etc when you use ndiswrapper -l?
[10:54] <alexwillmer> cat /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config | grep -e '(CONFIG_NET)|(CONFIG_CRYPTO)'
[10:54] <jinx``> no process is accessing the cdrom
[10:54] <jinx``> but i cannot open it :(
[10:54] <mcphail> pune: I've had the same problem. Driver and hardware installed but no power to LEDs. Never found a way round it...
[10:54] <mcphail> jinx``: type eject
[10:54] <jgeorgeson> alexwillmer, grep -e regexp1 -e regexp2
[10:54] <pune> SeamusLP, that's what I get, I need some drivers specific to my laptop too?
[10:54] <delire> jgeorgeson: and acpi is not functioning eg battery or temp in /proc/acpi/.. are giving poor, or no results?
[10:54] <dcraven> omeg, in you /etc/X11/XF86Config file, there should be lines for VertRefresh and HorizSync. Do the values in there agree with your monitor specs?
[10:54] <ubuntu> hey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?
[10:54] <snedex> lo
[10:54] <Fazer_> webtoe: Yeah.
[10:54] <jinx``> doesn't work
[10:54] <omeg> I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which natively supports 1920x1200--it's on a ATi Mobility Radeon 9800. So I figured the ati driver would be the way to go, but it just didn't work. I manually switched to vesa then.
[10:54] <Fazer_> webtoe  the driver and the hardware are both present
[10:54] <pune> mcphail, really? well funny thing is I've gotten this card to work on warty
[10:54] <Fazer_> pune: haha, really?
[10:54] <webtoe> Fazer_: hmmmmmm
[10:54] <omeg> [22:54]  <dcraven> omeg, in you /etc/X11/XF86Config file, there should be lines for VertRefresh and HorizSync. Do the values in there agree with your monitor specs? <-- I should look that up.
[10:54] <Fazer_> warty? Warty doesnt' even boot up on my thinkpad.
[10:55] <omeg> But shouldn't the option for the resolution show up anyway, especially since I manually added them to that same config file
[10:55] <omeg> ?
[10:55] <pune> mcphail, I started from scratch with Hoary, which was a mistake, I wanted to see if I could do it on my own
[10:55] <jgeorgeson> delire, suspend modes. haven't messed with s3d yet, video doesn't come back on resume from s2m (have tried vbetool post and videopost)
[10:55] <mcphail> pune: I'm still using warty. Never worked for me with ndiswrapper
[10:55] <pune> mcphail, it still doesn't work for you?
[10:55] <Agape> Uoo pea ubuntu XD
[10:55] <pune> Fazer_, yeah
[10:55] <mcphail> nope
[10:55] <mjr> omeg, I'd recommend first upgrading to hoary and seeing if the ati driver works there
[10:55] <alexwillmer> jgeorgeson, thankyou, I read the man page as that only matching lines where both regexps were found.
[10:55] <Fulg> hey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?
[10:55] <dcraven> omeg, not if Xfree want's to spare your hardware from a small fire.
[10:55] <omeg> Okay. I'll try that.
[10:56] <djm62> What is a good wireless config tool for gnome?
[10:56] <Fazer_> pune: what do you get when you type in "iwconfig" ?
[10:56] <jgeorgeson> alexwillmer, pretty sure it does an OR on them
[10:56] <Agape> aarrg depre tos ingleses ... i'm really poor
[10:56] <omeg> mjr: can I upgrade to Hoary in Warty itself?
[10:56] <omeg> Or do I have to redownload + reinstall?
[10:56] <delire> jgeorgeson: it can become particularly boring sadly. these proprietary acpi bioses have to be practically reverse engineered before they can be understood. i would look at the debian-laptop-list as nearly every answer can be found there.
[10:56] <snedex> i wonder if someone could throw some ideas at me, im having trouble installing ubuntu, i get the message <0> kernel panic, unable to sync: attempted to kill init, any ideas ?
[10:56] <alexwillmer> jgeorgeson, it does, I was just commenting on my dumbness :)
[10:56] <dcraven> djm62, network-admin
[10:56] <delire> jgeorgeson: the list is fairly rigorous in the solving of such problems.
[10:57] <Fulgulescu> hey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?
[10:57] <jgeorgeson> djm62, NetworkMonitor can be pretty nice if your card's driver can scan. but i find dns is slow using it
[10:57] <mjr> omeg, I gave you the url to upgrade instructions earlier
[10:57] <pune> Fazer_, IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any
[10:57] <pune>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00
[10:57] <pune>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:25 dBm
[10:57] <pune>           RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B
[10:57] <pune>           Encryption key:off
[10:57] <pune>           Power Management:off
[10:57] <pune>           Link Quality:100/100  Signal level:-10 dBm  Noise level:-256 dBm
[10:57] <pune>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[10:57] <pune>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[10:57] <SeamusLP> pune: jesus dude
[10:57] <mjr> omeg, to repeat, see the relevant links at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog
[10:57] <Fazer_> pune: ooh, no spamming =(
[10:57] <SeamusLP> pune: #flood
[10:57] <delire> alexwillmer: i think that's a fairly natural way to wite it though..
[10:57] <omeg> Thanks again.
[10:57] <omeg> Strange, I must have missed that.
[10:57] <jgeorgeson> delire, my experience has been nobody on acpi-devel ever respond's to any question no matter how i phrase it. and i've been trying with multiple versions of multiple distro's for a year or so
[10:57] <delire> alexwillmer: less efficient albeit ;)
[10:57] <Fazer_> pune: haha yeah, thats pretty much the same case here!
[10:58] <djm62> cheers....I'm happy enough with iwconfig, but it's the only time I still need to use the console...aesthetically displeasing
[10:58] <pune> Fazer_, ok, is this a good thing or a bad thing?
[10:58] <snedex> exit
[10:58] <alexwillmer> delire, what, my way? it made sense as i interpreted 'man grep' but no joy, jgeorgeson's worked fine
[10:58] <mcphail> pune: what did you do to get it working in warty?
[10:58] <Fazer_> pune: well, the good thing is we are/were on the same boat =(
[10:59] <delire> jgeorgeson: hmm. they are busy and stressed. one by one the laptop vendors are complying, but many still need severe groundwork in this area. i would look in the list i mentioned above.
[10:59] <Fazer_> and the bad thing is, we are pretty much stuck so far since we are both on different types of machines.
[10:59] <Fulgulescu> hey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?
[10:59] <thanatosys> hello everyone
[10:59] <delire> alexwillmer: yes, but there's nothing wrong with a pipe. you just used grep badly ;)
[10:59] <djm62> Fulgulescu: you sound familiar
[10:59] <pune> mcphail, well, see I had a linux guru do it for me and I didn't watch him exactly so I don't remember everything
[10:59] <Fulgulescu> maybe :D
[10:59] <Fulgulescu> but can u help?
[10:59] <pune> mcphail, however, i'm following the instructions on the ndiswrapper page
[10:59] <mcphail> pune: aah...
[11:00] <thanatosys> have you tried man ndiswrapper?>
[11:00] <Oppossum> hi all
[11:00] <mcphail> pune: at least it fills me with hope that wirless is possible
[11:00] <thanatosys> hello
[11:00] <jgeorgeson> delire, heh. guess i didn't read your whole comment the first time. will check out that list (i have actually already rewritten the DSDT, maybe I did a crap job of it though)
[11:00] <djm62> Fulgulescu: menu System->Administration->Networking
[11:00] <Fulgulescu> yes
[11:00] <pune> mcphail, lol
[11:00] <Oppossum> can someone tell me what's happenned with totem and its audio codecs in hoary???
[11:00] <Oppossum> can someone tell me what's happenning with totem and its audio codecs in hoary???
[11:01] <thanatosys> does anyone know if a real book like print and paper is being planned for ubuntu?
[11:01] <Fulgulescu> i made that
[11:01] <vessuvius81> What's the deal with Latex2e on ubuntu? I'm shocked its not standard, and I don't even see it in the apt repos
[11:01] <jgeorgeson> Oppossum, which codecs?
[11:01] <webtoe> Oppossum: what's wrong with them>
[11:01] <webtoe> ?
[11:01] <punkrockguy318> I have a large collection of jpegs that are very large in file size.  I would to compress these to a reasonable size.  How can I do this quickly, on all my pictures?
[11:01] <pune> mcphail, what really would have helped is if he showed me how, he just kind of did it
[11:01] <Fulgulescu> the essid is mitzawlan
[11:01] <djm62> vessuvius81: you are searching for tetex?
[11:01] <vessuvius81> latex
[11:01] <Fulgulescu> but whats the wep eky
[11:01] <mjr> vessuvius81, tetex-bin
[11:01] <Fulgulescu> wep key?
[11:01] <mcphail> pune: you give a man a fish... etc etc
[11:02] <thanatosys> tar -cvf youpics.tar yourfilenamerhere.
[11:02] <thanatosys> that will create a tar archive
[11:02] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, the tool that djm62 mentioned lets you configure the WEP key (System->Administration->Network)
[11:02] <pune> mcphail, I think he might have compiled his own driver maybe
[11:02] <djm62> Fulgulescu: well, it depends on your network....if you could ask for it on irc from strangers, it wouldn't be very secure
[11:02] <webtoe> punkrockguy318: are you wanting to create new jpegs which each take up less size?
[11:02] <^thehatsrule^> why tar when you can gz!
[11:02] <vessuvius81> so its called tetex on ubuntu then?
[11:02] <pune> mcphail, oh well, i'll be back I'm gonna go eat
[11:02] <djm62> vessuvius81: on debian and friends
[11:02] <thanatosys> well i tar then gunzip but w/e
[11:02] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, you could also use 'iwconfig <interface> key <key>' from a terminal
[11:02] <punkrockguy318> webtoe, yes
[11:02] <vessuvius81> ah ok
[11:02] <thanatosys> is there a command that simplifies it
[11:02] <vessuvius81> thanks
[11:02] <Agrajag> ^thehatsrule^: because gzip doesn't support more than one file in an archive
[11:02] <webtoe> convert is your friend
[11:03] <vessuvius81> no wonder I couldn't find it
[11:03] <fabioar> hi everybody.... anybody knows where can i get info to make my palm m125 to work?
[11:03] <Fulgulescu> check this
[11:03] <djm62> vessuvius81: you may not need a wep key at all
[11:03] <jinx``> how to play divx x with totem video player?
[11:03] <thanatosys> fabior try lspci
[11:03] <Fulgulescu> this is the server i want to connect to
[11:03] <thanatosys> see if it is a listed device
[11:03] <jinx``> it just works with VLC
[11:03] <Agrajag> thanatosys: tar cvzf
[11:03] <thanatosys> thanks
[11:03] <^thehatsrule^> Agrajag: i mean tar.gz ^^
[11:03] <punkrockguy318> webtoe, convert?
[11:03] <Fulgulescu> wlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"mitzawlan"  Nickname:"okuwlan"
[11:03] <Fulgulescu>           Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.457GHz  Cell: 02:00:DD:A3:1B:00
[11:03] <Fulgulescu>           Bit Rate:11Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[11:03] <thanatosys> wait that should be lsusb
[11:03] <jinx``> in totem i just hear the sound
[11:04] <thanatosys> has anyone had any luck with gdesklets
[11:04] <Fulgulescu> Encryption key:off
[11:04] <thanatosys> it seems to incessantly crash on my system
[11:04] <thanatosys> it wont even start a desklet now
[11:04] <thanatosys> :(
[11:04] <Echylo> hi
[11:04] <webtoe> punkrockguy318: its a program which is part of the ImageMajick suite. Its a command line tool which can be scripted to alter pictures
[11:04] <Echylo> how smart was it
[11:04] <fabioar> thank thanatosys...
[11:04] <Echylo> to update to breezy?
[11:04] <djm62> jinx``: marillat repository will get you mplayer (google for it), and that will play mostly anything
[11:04] <WeirdAl> Hello. This is nothing to do with Ubuntu but you guys know everything. Does anyone know where I can get MySQL help? An IRC chan or something.
[11:05] <Echylo> no serious I updated to breezy now
[11:05] <fabioar> yes it is listed as a accepted device
[11:05] <Echylo> was it smart?
[11:05] <Fulgulescu> is there a tool to autodetect my settings?
[11:05] <thanatosys> ok have you tried mounting it
[11:05] <revelater> hey, how can i find out what my ip adress is on my network and the ip adress of my router/modem?
[11:05] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, do you not know the WEP key?
[11:05] <thanatosys> hmm
[11:05] <djm62> Fulgulescu: do you really want an ad-hoc connection?
[11:05] <WeirdAl> I couldn't get mplayer working :-s. I use xine now.
[11:05] <thanatosys> your trying a palm
[11:05] <thanatosys> have you tried that palm tool that is included in the system
[11:06] <Fulgulescu> i`m new to this guys
[11:06] <thanatosys> its under system/preferences
[11:06] <whiteknight> Echylo, do you do mission critical stuff on ubuntu? if the answer is yes then it wasn't a good idea
[11:06] <Fulgulescu> i dunno whats the wep key
[11:06] <whiteknight> Echylo, if not then i wouldn't worry
[11:06] <Xappe> have you guys tried to recompile totem-xine with the firefox plugin enabled?
[11:06] <Fazer_> yeap, so no more ubuntu
[11:06] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, is it your access point you're trying to connect to?
[11:06] <punkrockguy318> webtoe, when it says quality value.. what is the range on that? do you know? 1 - 100?
[11:06] <djm62> Fulgulescu: are you connecting to a server? if so, you want to use managed mode
[11:06] <Echylo> well another question, why isn't beagle supported? I can't install it
[11:07] <webtoe> i believe they often give it as 1 - 100
[11:07] <revelater> hey, how can i find out what my ip adress is on my network and the ip adress of my router/modem?
[11:07] <thanatosys> beagle is new and unstable
[11:07] <thanatosys> lol
[11:07] <djm62> revelater: ifconfig
[11:07] <Fulgulescu> i`m on the laptop and i use ubuntu;the server that i`m connecting to is a fc3 server
[11:07] <revelater> thankyou
[11:07] <Echylo> beagle is already on the new suse
[11:07] <Echylo> why shouldn't ubuntu have it
[11:07] <Fulgulescu> that what i pasted is the fc3 wlan config
[11:07] <thanatosys> look for the source and try compiling it?
[11:08] <Echylo> that's an option
[11:08] <thanatosys> also i would like to say splashy is the shit
[11:08] <Echylo> splashy?
[11:08] <thanatosys> easiest splash program ever written
[11:08] <webtoe> also it needs inode support in the kernel
[11:08] <webtoe> which is still experimental
[11:08] <thanatosys> its like bootsplash or usplash
[11:08] <LightBeam> hello
[11:08] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, you can use network-admin (System->Administration->Network) to set your wlan on your laptop to those same settings
[11:08] <Echylo> oh and what has it to do with beagle,
[11:08] <Echylo> ?
[11:08] <thanatosys> doenst require a recompile or antyhing
[11:08] <webtoe> and is integral to the filesystem
[11:08] <thanatosys> it doesnt
[11:08] <Echylo> I know webtoe
[11:08] <thanatosys> its just awesome
[11:08] <djm62> Fulgulescu: the server would be better as Master mode, if you can do so
[11:08] <LightBeam> Can somebody help me to install java VM for firefox ? :-(
[11:08] <Echylo> oh ok
[11:08] <webtoe> ah
[11:08] <webtoe> ok
[11:08] <Echylo> anyway
[11:08] <Echylo> gtg
[11:08] <Echylo> gnight every1
[11:08] <Fulgulescu> what do u mean
[11:08] <Echylo> ubuntu! :p
[11:08] <Fulgulescu> master mode
[11:09] <webtoe> lol
[11:09] <Fulgulescu> ?
[11:09] <thanatosys> has anyone gotten monitor mode to work in hoary
[11:09] <thanatosys> ?
[11:09] <LightBeam> nobody ?
[11:09] <Fulgulescu> this is what i do on the fc3 server for wlan
[11:09] <Fulgulescu> iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc channel 10 essid mitzawlan
[11:09] <Fulgulescu> ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> up
[11:09] <webtoe> LightBeam: what have you tried so far?
[11:10] <hitesh> hey people.. .new ubuntu user here on day 1.. i like it a lot so far...
[11:10] <LightBeam> I have /usr/java installed (j2re 1.5) and linked libjavaplugin_oji.so to firefox/plugins
[11:10] <hitesh> anyone get realplayer to work with ESD ?
[11:10] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, do that with a different ip on your ubuntu laptop
[11:10] <LightBeam> and I have "white applets"
[11:10] <djm62> Fulgulescu: A wifi card can be "Managed mode" (connected to a router) "ad-hoc mode" (connected to another ad-hoc card), or "Master mode" (allowing connections from Managed mode cards)
[11:10] <punkrockguy318> webtoe, thanks for your help, that's just what i needed... after an apt-get install imagemagick and a $ convert -quality 50 * * everything worked great
[11:10] <webtoe> no worries
[11:11] <LightBeam> help me :-\
[11:11] <webtoe> LightBeam: in the address bar of firefox type about:plugins
[11:12] <webtoe> and look for java
[11:12] <StyXman> wow, how many people
[11:12] <LightBeam> webtoe: I do it... java plugins are loaded !
[11:12] <webtoe> is it there?
[11:12] <webtoe> k well try leaving it for a while
[11:12] <LightBeam> but doesn't work fine
[11:12] <webtoe> they could just be taking a long time to load?
[11:12] <StyXman> I'm trying to compile xorg from sources
[11:12] <StyXman> I get the sources via apt-get source xorg
[11:13] <LightBeam> long time ? really long ?
[11:13] <StyXman> but a debian/ruler build-all fails
[11:13] <webtoe> LightBeam: try opening a console, then starting firefox from it, and see if any errors show up
[11:13] <StyXman> s/ruler/rules/
[11:13] <webtoe> when you try to load java aps
[11:13] <LightBeam> ok webtoe
[11:14] <Bukkake> j #wordpress
[11:14] <LightBeam> webtoe : no errors
[11:14] <Bukkake> whups.. heh
[11:14] <webtoe> hmm
[11:14] <jinx``> what is marillat?
[11:14] <jinx``> djm62
[11:14] <akk> Anyone familiar with the installer on small laptops?
[11:15] <akk> When I get to the network config stage, am I better off ejecting the cd to put in the network card,
[11:15] <djm62> jinx``: it's a repository that you add to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <ermo> jinx``, isn't that a repository with w32 xine codecs?
[11:15] <jgeorgeson> jinx``, a repository of multimedia packages of questionable legality due to software patents
[11:15] <akk> or will it let me configure a network without a card in place?
[11:15] <roshambo> hi all
[11:15] <djm62> don't question the legality, question the legal system
[11:15] <onno> any experienced person with AWSTATS
[11:15] <roshambo> which startup script has the ntp update thingo in it?
[11:16] <djm62> roshambo: /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[11:16] <jgeorgeson> djm62, heh. users aren't, to the best of my knowledge, under any risk, only ditributors, which is why it's in marillat instead of ubuntu
[11:17] <roshambo> djm62: if that isn't linked to in rc2.d, is there any reason why it would start anyway?
[11:17] <djm62> roshambo: I don't _think_ so
[11:18] <djm62> jgeorgeson: I find that oddly cold comfort...patents per se make much less sense now than when they were invented
[11:18] <Ubuntu_Beginner> Hi
[11:18] <roshambo> djm62: cos its starting on mine :( inittab says runlevel is 2, so i am not sure why it would run
[11:19] <_blackdog> are apt sources available for breezybadger yet?
[11:19] <WeirdAl> 'lo
[11:19] <WeirdAl> Filesystem question
[11:19] <WeirdAl> I have a partition mounted to /wine
[11:19] <jgeorgeson> djm62, totally (make much less sense when read as parents rather than patents)
[11:19] <Ubuntu_Beginner> I am trying to install ubuntu but the installation aborts at the install base part every time. Any body can help?
[11:19] <smouche> I think the issue with ubuntu is that Canonical plans to make money with support services for this distro, and understandably, they need to avoid entangling potential customers in legal hassles.
[11:20] <WeirdAl> What do I put in fstab so that users can write to /wine?
[11:20] <webtoe> WeirdAl: you need users in the options field
[11:20] <AndyR> Ubuntu_Beginner, what hardware?
[11:20] <webtoe> and there has to be rw there as well
[11:20] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, I think set the gid in the options to a common group, and set a umask that gives group write permission (or open it to the world)
[11:20] <Ubuntu_Beginner> Amd Athelon 2100+
[11:21] <dimatrod> hi, i came over to ask if there is any way to port 32 bit wine into 64 bit kubuntu??
[11:21] <jgeorgeson> webtoe, doesn't 'users' just let users mount/umount it?
[11:21] <AndyR> ide drives, ?
[11:21] <webtoe> ah good point, yes it does
[11:21] <Ubuntu_Beginner> maxtor 1 drive only
[11:21] <webtoe> i'm being silly
[11:21] <Fulgulescu> hey i`m running live cd whats the pass to su to root ?
[11:21] <WeirdAl> I'll try webtoe's first 'cause it's easier, cheers.
[11:21] <dimatrod> sudo-s (fulgu)
[11:21] <dbrouwer> any body know how to resolve this: cc1plus: Permission denied: opening dependency file accel.d make: *** [accel.o]  Error 1  ?
[11:22] <dimatrod> hi, i came over to ask if there is any way to port 32 bit wine into 64 bit kubuntu??
[11:22] <jgeorgeson> Fulgulescu, you may have to give yourself a password with 'passwd' first, then run 'sudo -s'
[11:22] <delire> jgeorgeson: swpats don't pose users risk directly, so much as discouraging developers to develop, hence reducing the pool of software users have available.
[11:22] <roshambo> ok, last question... is there somewhere to download the .config file used to compile the kernels that ubuntu comes with?
[11:22] <jeramy> dimatrod, anything is possible, but it would be a huge undertaking, because the Win32 binaries are 32 bit.  :)
[11:22] <Keizer> What can I use to burn an audio CD from MP3s?
[11:22] <AndyR> Ubuntu_Beginner, what motherboard?
[11:22] <delire> jgeorgeson: regardless, they are an abomination of sense in any case.
[11:23] <dimatrod> jeramy: so it would take a long line of commands to port it?
[11:23] <jgeorgeson> delire, i agree. i think they're stupid. just wanted to let jinx`` know why they're in a separate repo rather than part of ubuntu
[11:23] <Ubuntu_Beginner> AndyR: Why is this information important?
[11:23] <jeramy> dimatrod, yes
[11:23] <djm62> delire: they also last far too long, even if they did what they were supposed to
[11:23] <dimatrod> i read something abot "chroot", but didnt quite catch it
[11:23] <delire> jgeorgeson: ahah good to explain this to newcomers.
[11:23] <Ubuntu_Beginner> It's Asus any ways
[11:23] <delire> djm62: correct
[11:23] <AndyR> Ubuntu_Beginner, may be unsupported chipset
[11:23] <dimatrod> so it would take the same for azureus i suppose....
[11:24] <dimatrod> oh well, i guess its better to wait for 64 azureus and wine
[11:24] <dimatrod> thanks though
[11:24] <Ubuntu_Beginner> Where can I find information about supported chipsets?
[11:24] <djm62> (that applies to all patents, really)
[11:24] <dbrouwer> any body here get an error when compiling wxGTK-2.4.2?
[11:24] <Fazer> hello folks
[11:24] <dimatrod> sup
[11:24] <dimatrod> nope
[11:24] <Fazer> man, getting wifi is such a damn pai
[11:25] <dimatrod> pie?
[11:25] <djm62> ((and the idea of conferring a temporary monopoly goes against both capitalist and socialist principles))
[11:25] <Fazer> *pain
[11:25] <jeramy> dbrouwer, are you using apt to do it?  (Just curious)
[11:25] <jgeorgeson> i think copyright extension is more a problem than patent length (why do we need to wait until 2074 to get superfreak in public domain?)
[11:25] <webtoe> hmmm i love pie
[11:25] <dimatrod> frazer, are you using kwifi?
[11:25] <delire> djm62: yes, exactly.
[11:25] <Fazer> dimatrod: I can't even get it to see a wifi network
[11:26] <Fazer> let alone even use wlan0 as the interface.
[11:26] <dbrouwer> no, i downloaded it (it's for amule) upon doing make i get an error about permission denied make: *** [accel.o]  Error 1
[11:26] <dimatrod> dimatrod: but you did get the wifi card recognize correctly?
[11:27] <dimatrod> i mean, frazer
[11:27] <Fazer> *fazer
[11:27] <dimatrod> yeah
[11:27] <djm62> why was superfreak released to the public anyway ;)
[11:27] <Fazer> dimatrod: Yeah... I think so.
[11:27] <Fazer> like, I could see wlan0
[11:27] <Fazer> but it won't see any AP
[11:27] <jeramy> dbrouwer, does it specifically want 2.4.2?
[11:27] <dimatrod> so i gues it recognizes...
[11:27] <jeramy> dbrouwer, apt has libwxgtk<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:27] <dimatrod> fazer:  maybe signal is too weak or something
[11:28] <dimatrod> or you have to configure to connect to the windows or mac network
[11:28] <jeramy> dbrouwer, (well, the package is libwxgtk2.4)
[11:28] <djm62> Fazer: iwlist scanning?
[11:28] <dimatrod> try seing if the router is mac compatible?
[11:28] <dimatrod> i mean, linux
[11:28] <dimatrod> damn, reading too much at a time
[11:28] <Fazer> yeap, everything.
[11:28] <dimatrod> odd....
[11:28] <Fazer> very
[11:28] <dbrouwer> okay, thanks! i am new to ubuntu, how do i apt get the file (what specific command?)
[11:28] <Fazer> i was here like 30 minutes ago
[11:28] <Fazer> first, my ethernet wasn't working
[11:29] <Fazer> then when that was fixed
[11:29] <Fazer> noting else would work
[11:29] <Fazer> i mean
[11:29] <Fazer> whaat am i saying.
[11:29] <dimatrod> dbrower: which apt?
[11:29] <Fazer> USB is wrkign fine.
[11:29] <dimatrod> weird
[11:29] <Fazer> maybe its because of the Live CD?
[11:29] <Fazer> If I had it installed, it wouldn't be soo bad?
[11:29] <dimatrod> oh, youre using live... maybe it is
[11:29] <jeramy> dbrouwer, maybe it's in universer
[11:29] <dimatrod> i guess
[11:29] <KingArthur> which works better, a usb modem or trying to get the internal softmodem working?
[11:30] <dimatrod> usb
[11:30] <jeramy> dbrouwer, do you have universe enabled?
[11:30] <dimatrod> on the sources.list, dbrower
[11:30] <dbrouwer> ? dunno, just got ubuntu installed, where and how do i check that?
[11:30] <dimatrod> read the unoficial ubuntu guid
[11:30] <dimatrod> guide
[11:30] <jeramy> dbrouwer, ok, yes, it's in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[11:30] <dimatrod> hi, i came over to ask if there is any way to port 32 bit wine into 64 bit kubuntu??
[11:31] <KingArthur> are most usb modems plug and play in ubuntu?  I want to know before I fork up money for something that won't do the job
[11:31] <djm62> dbrouwer: generically 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:31] <dimatrod> yeah
[11:31] <jeramy> dbrouwer, the file that you want to edit (using sudo) is /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <jeramy> yeah, what he said.  ;)
[11:31] <jeramy> dbrouwer, and add universe at the end of "main restricted"
[11:32] <dimatrod> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installssh
[11:32] <dimatrod> just look for it there, its under ssh
[11:32] <dimatrod> way below
[11:32] <dbrouwer> okay, clear,
[11:32] <dbrouwer> thanks
[11:32] <dbrouwer> so far
[11:32] <dimatrod> welcomed
[11:32] <KingArthur> anyone here ever use Net Zero for Debian on Ubuntu?  if so, how did it work for you?
[11:33] <dbrouwer> so add the url to the file at the end of main restricted?
[11:33] <jeramy> No, add universe
[11:33] <dbrouwer> "add universe" ?
[11:33] <dbrouwer> or add "universe"
[11:33] <djm62> dbrouwer: the word 'universe'
[11:33] <dbrouwer> lol
[11:33] <dbrouwer> thanks
[11:34] <jeramy> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe
[11:34] <jeramy> like that.
[11:34] <jeramy> :)
[11:34] <akk> Anybody know much about the installer?
[11:34] <WeirdAl> webtoe, I put "defaults,users" in the option for that mount but I still don't have write permission, it says.
[11:34] <dbrouwer> thanks all
[11:34] <akk> It's lost my cdrom; I tried going back to "Detect and mount CD-ROM" but it doesn't seem to do anything.
[11:34] <akk> Can I force it to re-do that step?
[11:34] <jeramy> dbrouwer, and do it on all of them that don't have a # at the beginning of the line
[11:35] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, users just lets users mount it. look at the uid/gid/umask options
[11:35] <WeirdAl> OK
[11:35] <dbrouwer> okay
[11:35] <webtoe> WeirdAl: as someone pointed out I was wrong unfortunatly. Make sure that the disk is mounted rw and they you'll have to do the uid thing
[11:35] <webtoe> i was wrong you see
[11:35] <WeirdAl> Do you happen to know how  I do the uid thing?
[11:36] <jeramy> dbrouwer, after you're done that, open up Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager)

[11:36] <webtoe> you use uid=000 or something like that ( i think the number is 000)
[11:36] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, uid and gid are the user and group (numeric IDs, found in /etc/passwd and /etc/group) that will own the file system
[11:36] <QMario> How do I use Python with GLADE?
[11:36] <mjc> anyone have any neat tricks? I'm bored.
[11:36] <djm62> akk: what sort of CD drive do you have?
[11:36] <jeramy> dbrouwer, and then click "Reload"
[11:37] <webtoe> be careful and use the right number or you'll giver everyone access to everyhintg
[11:37] <djm62> mjc: get beagle :) bit of effort, but worth it
[11:37] <synd> hey whats the URL for the ndiswrapper-utils howto? i cant find it
[11:37] <WeirdAl> I see
[11:37] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, the umask will set the permission bits
[11:37] <dbrouwer> sorry if i do not respond, i am reading what you write, i got a telephone call i need answer
[11:37] <jeramy> np
[11:38] <akk> djm62: It's a vaio laptop with a single cardbus slot, which has to handle both cd and networking.
[11:38] <jeramy> dbrouwer, after it reloads, do a search for wxgtk and up it'll pop.  You'll probably want just the libwxgtk2.4 one for now...
[11:38] <akk> djm62: So the question is how to get it to allow networking without losing the cdrom.
[11:38] <WeirdAl> OK, my uid and gid are both 1000
[11:38] <whiteknight> synd, hey, i was trying to find it last night, it seems have disappeared!
[11:39] <jeramy> dbrouwer, I need to go, so if you have any problems, I'm sure someone here will help you out.  :)
[11:39] <djm62> ah...
[11:39] <WeirdAl> So I want..? defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=???
[11:39] <dbrouwer> jeramy, thanks!
[11:39] <dbrouwer> bye
[11:39] <jeramy> np
[11:39] <WeirdAl> In the options part?
[11:39] <jeramy> bye
[11:39] <WeirdAl> That right?
[11:39] <djm62> akk: you can set up networking later?
[11:40] <djm62> akk: literally, your machine can't network and CD at the same time
[11:40] <akk> djm62: Oh, good.  The sarge installer gets really horked if I try to delay networking, so I worried about that.
[11:40] <djm62> akk: ?
[11:40] <jgeorgeson> WeirdaAl, you'll have to expirment with the umask values, maybe man umask
[11:40] <synd> whiteknight: hmm..
[11:40] <akk> djm62: Right, it can't network and cd at the same time.
[11:40] <synd> whiteknight: well i need to set up ndiswrapper and i cant remember how!
[11:40] <WeirdAl> is that the way it's done though?
[11:40] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, yeah
[11:40] <WeirdAl> OK thanks
[11:40] <djm62> akk: delay networking, you can configure it later (do it asap)
[11:40] <WeirdAl> :-s no man umask
[11:40] <webtoe> WeirdAl: yes that how it done. Don't know whether you need all three though. Search www.google.co.uk/linux for umask and you should find what you need
[11:41] <WeirdAl> thanks
[11:41] <akk> djm62: Thanks, I'll try that.  It'll give me a chance to load the network drivers later?
[11:41] <jgeorgeson> if you set the umask to give group write, but not world write, everyone who is going to use it will need to be added to group 1000
[11:41] <djm62> akk: yeah...it will do it anyway (hotplug)
[11:42] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, I suspect, however, that group 1000 is the private group created for your account, so you might consider using the 'users' group or, creating a wine group, and adding everyone who gets to write to the /wine partition to that group
[11:42] <WeirdAl> It is, but I'm the only user.
[11:43] <WeirdAl> I don't get how masks work, TBH, but rather than a long explanation ('cause I'm tired :-) ), what's the umask for user rwx, group rwx and everyone else ---?
[11:43] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, ok. you probably don't need to mess with umask, then. why not just run wine out of you home directory in that case?
[11:43] <djm62> is there a reason ubuntu doesn't use a graphical boot sequence?
[11:43] <WeirdAl> Because I have a new partition for it.
[11:44] <WeirdAl> I tried to resize my main partition but I couldn't find anything to do it.
[11:44] <WeirdAl> So I created a new partition and I'm using it for my wine apps.
[11:44] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, ah
[11:44] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, start with 007 and play around until it's right
[11:45] <WeirdAl> I'll try it without a umask first.
[11:45] <WeirdAl> Since I own it.
[11:45] <WeirdAl> ostensibly
[11:45] <InitMass> which file is good to use root-tail on?
[11:45] <akk> What is "configure a multiseat system"?
[11:45] <Pinguss> Evening guys, I just installed Ubuntu here at my friends place and I'm having some trouble with what looks like the nvidia drivers, I followed the binary-how-to from the website and everything seems to go well and X starts up fine, but When i tested glxgears, it hung the system after about 10 seconds, its a brand new XFX 6600GT AGP video card... anybody have any ideas?
[11:46] <Lassen> Is my first time instaling UBUNTU, and the intallation proces give to my a error in "Configure apt".  What can be?
[11:46] <superted> Pinguss: are they gonna use the computer for gaming? if not i don't see the use for the nvidia drivers
[11:47] <Pinguss> superted: yes he is planing on getting a cedega subscription so he can play City of Heroes
[11:47] <jgeorgeson> Pinguss, does the howto direct you to using nvidia.com's stuff, or a repo with .deb packagse?
[11:47] <webtoe> Pinguss: and did you run glxgears from a console?any output?
[11:47] <Pinguss> jgeorgeson, it directs to apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:47] <webtoe> error messages etc.
[11:47] <Pinguss> no errors, just pure hanging then the monitor shuts off and blinks
[11:47] <djm62> akk: multiple simultaneous users
[11:47] <superted> Pinguss: well, does everything except for glxgears work?
[11:47] <djm62> akk: you can uninstall it later if you don't want it
[11:47] <jgeorgeson> Pinguss, did you compare what version you get from the .deb packages to what's available at nvidia.com?
[11:48] <Pinguss> dpkg tells me its 7174 thats installed and that seems to be the latest on nvidia.coms site
[11:48] <akk> djm62: What does that mean at install time?  Doesn't linux always support multiple users if you create accounts for them?
[11:48] <Pinguss> superted, I've tryed tuxracer too, same thing, it hangs after bout 10 seconds, seems anything that hits GL for more then a few seconds
[11:49] <WeirdAl> jgeorgeson, I set it uid=1000,gid=1000 and it's still mounted as root/root
[11:49] <webtoe> Pinguss: have you checked the docs and seen which opengl is being used. Remebered that you used to have to make sure a glx module was or wasn't being loaded
[11:49] <omeg> I've got a problem. I just followed the upgrade information on the Hoary wiki (upgrading from Warty to Hoary) but when I try to start the Synaptic package manager, it says that it cannot find the files which I just put in my config file.
[11:49] <Pinguss> I followed some steps i found on a forum to switch to the NvAGP module instead of AGPGART but it acts the exact same way
[11:49] <kanuha> Can anyone tell me what the name of the applet for KDE is that shows your network connection?
[11:50] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, did you umount after editing /etc/fstab?
[11:50] <webtoe> Pinguss: you might need to check in the xorg.conf file to check what i just blurted
[11:50] <WeirdAl> /dev/hda4 /wine ext2 defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[11:50] <WeirdAl> I reset!
[11:50] <jmarica9416> sorry new at ubuntu...is there a package in the default repositories for kerberos, or do i have to hunt down a repository
[11:50] <djm62> akk: yes it does, but things like gnome etc can be less happy
[11:50] <Pinguss> webtoe, part of the steps were to comment out load DRI and GLCore and to make sure GLX was loading, i've done that
[11:50] <jbailey> jmarica9416: MIT's krb5 packages are in main.
[11:51] <jmarica9416> jbailey: thanks
[11:51] <webtoe> k that's all i could think of i'm afraid ;-)
[11:51] <omeg> So basically, I followed the instructions on the Hoary wiki, but I can't update from Warty to Hoary.
[11:51] <djm62> akk: for that matter, things like sshd, or even multiple keyboard/monitor support
[11:51] <Pinguss> Is there any known issues with 6600GT's ???
[11:51] <WeirdAl> oh, maybe it's that.
[11:51] <LinuxJones> Pinguss, >> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:YZ79QnTiQzUJ:lists.zerezo.com/debian-user/0623.html++XFX+6600GT+debian&hl=en&client=firefox
[11:51] <toresbe> Yes!!! they're expensive !!! :(
[11:51] <akk> djm62: Oh, doing that step meant I get things like sshd?  Good, I definitely need that.
[11:51] <toresbe> Pinguss: :P
[11:52] <kanuha> Can anyone tell me what the name of the applet for KDE is that shows your network connection?
[11:52] <Pinguss> toresbe: OOOoooo that looks dangerous... wonder if i should risk it
[11:52] <omeg> Can anybody help me upgrade from Warty to Hoary? The installation instructions on the Wiki didn't work because of an error.
[11:52] <Pinguss> messing with the clocks thru hardware..
[11:52] <djm62> akk: anything you want is only an apt-get away anyhow :)
[11:52] <Pinguss> hrmm
[11:52] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, I'm not sure ext2 supports uid/gid. for some reason I assumed vfat
[11:53] <martinhj> toresbe, bruker Ubuntu du ogs?