[16:38] <DJones> dreamcat4: Probably best jpiing #ubuntu+1 and making sure there, 14.10 is stil in devolpment, so websites may ot be the best thing to follow
[16:38] <DJones> /s/jping/to join/
[16:39] <farbod> BIllytHe1:hi
[16:39] <BIllytHe1> @farbod
[16:40] <BIllytHe1> HI
[16:40] <BIllytHe1> @farbod how are you doing today
[16:40] <dreamcat4> nevermind 'cos the 'boot-repair' ppa seems to be 404 missing from launchpad anyway
[16:41] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:41] <farbod> BIllytHe1: im so so :) pls come private messages
[16:41] <ObrienDave> https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/ubuntu/boot-repair
[16:41] <both> Hi. Could anyone help me to fix my black screen problem, plz? Details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246704&p=13134476#post13134476
[16:42] <dreamcat4> ah right - it's my apt sources the /utopic/ part isn't right or something
[16:42] <DJones> dreamcat4: Don't be surprised at error messages for 14.10
[16:43] <OerHeks> both, looks like a steam/TF2 issue, not ubuntu as other games do work
[16:43] <DJones> dreamcat4: Its stil in development, so its expected. support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:43] <dreamcat4> i guess my live usb key is still 14.04 (just trying to repair a 14.04 -> 14.10 upgraded)
[16:44] <DJones> dreamcat4: Please join #ubuntu+ for problems with 14.10
[16:44] <neixer> how i can disable this on ubuntu 14.04? -> http://i.stack.imgur.com/0OMTO.png
[16:44] <DJones> #ubuntu+1
[16:44] <shaddowed> DJones Bugs are expected? lmao
[16:45] <dreamcat4> my mistake i misread the instructions and put the wrong ubuntu release in the apt-sources/ config file
[16:45] <dreamcat4> it had nothing to do with the ubuntu version i'm actually on...
[16:45] <OerHeks> dreamcat4, as there is no Utopic version of bootrepair, use the bootrepair iso?
[16:46] <trndr> guite: could you pastebin "dmesg | grep pwc"
[16:46] <dreamcat4> well it's installed now so i'm fine
[16:46] <ratnadevsri> diskless booting is possible if the client is connected through wireless network
[16:47] <detjm> shturmnews.info/content/obrashchenie-russkih-dobrovolcev-novorossii-k-narodu-rossii.html
[16:48] <detjm> terrorists PM me
[16:48] <OerHeks> detjm, please don't spam that crap here, thanks
[16:49] <guite> trndr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8540495/
[16:49] <guite> trndr: but this is very strange
[16:49] <detjm> which crap?
[16:49] <guite> trndr: looks like it works if I use another usb port
[16:49] <DJones> detjm: Do You have an Ubuntu support question?
[16:49] <detjm> i have to go
[16:49] <guite> trndr: there is a single usb on the right side of my laptop and two on the left
[16:50] <guite> trndr: aren’t they supposed to work the same way ?
[16:50] <Martusia> looking for help with ubuntu "after partial upgrade" problem
[16:50] <detjm> buy
[16:50] <ObrienDave> bye
[16:51] <trndr> guite: as far as I can see you are experiencing an old bug where the module doesen't get properly unloaded, and cant be used if that happens
[16:52] <Martusia> i can log to guest but if i choose mine account nothing happens and from guest i cant access my files
[16:52] <guite> trndr: which module ? can I unload/reload it myself ?
[16:52] <Anuska> Hello
[16:52] <guite> trndr: like modprobe -r pwc
[16:52] <trndr> guite: run sudo modprobe-r pwc if you disconnect the webcam and want to reconnect it
[16:52] <guite> ok
[16:53] <guite> trndr: in fact, I think I can get the video
[16:53] <guite> but the sound is not ther…
[16:53] <guite> :/
[16:55] <guite> is there a tool in ubuntu 14.04 to record sound
[16:55] <guite> I can’t find gnome-sound-recorder
[16:55] <guite> even with apt-get
[16:56] <OerHeks> lots of tools, audacious
[16:56] <guite> OerHeks: yes, but I was talking about the default unity tool for recording sound
[16:57] <guite> OerHeks: audacious is fine, thanks :)
[16:57] <bazhang> !info audacity
[16:58] <bazhang> audacious is a player, not dissimilar to winamp
[16:58] <OerHeks> oops, audacity, not audacious ( i am hungry and go for a snack now)
[16:59] <guite> errrr…
[16:59] <guite> :)
[17:02] <luzifer9999> Hello everybody! I need to know how I can grep the beginning and end with one command?
[17:03] <luzifer9999> I want to know all tools in /usr/bin/ with beginning "c" and ending "s"
[17:04] <geirha> luzifer9999: /usr/bin/c*s
[17:05] <geirha> grep should not be used on filenames
[17:06] <geirha> luzifer9999: that's a shell glob you can pass to ls for instance;  ls /usr/bin/c*s
[17:06] <luzifer9999> geirha, how can I use this with grep? My try "ls /usr/bin/ | grep ^[cl]*s$"
[17:06] <luzifer9999> It is important to do this with grep it
[17:06] <geirha> luzifer9999: as I said, don't use grep on filenames. grep is used to select lines.
[17:06] <dreamcat4> how to mount /dev ?
[17:06] <geirha> luzifer9999: ls /usr/bin/[cl]*s
[17:08] <luzifer9999> geirha,  ok but what could I do if I want to know how it works with grep on files where the beginning is specific and the ends too?
[17:08] <geirha> dreamcat4: it should already be mounted ... or are you thinking of mounting it in a chroot or something?
[17:08] <luzifer9999> geirha, files means textfiles
[17:08] <dreamcat4> geirha: yeah, i chroot from usb key to revcoer grub
[17:09] <dreamcat4> in the chroot /dev isn't mounted, must mount manually
[17:09] <geirha> luzifer9999: to select *lines* that start with c or l, and end with s, it's grep '^[cl].*s$'
[17:09] <geirha> dreamcat4: sudo mount --bind /dev /the/chroot/dev
[17:09] <acer> ???
[17:09] <dreamcat4> geirha: i'll try it and see
[17:10] <geirha> dreamcat4: basically says: "mount this over here too"
[17:12] <luzifer9999> geirha, thank you. And now last question why should I do not use grep for filenames?
[17:13] <geirha> dreamcat4: Firstly because it's pointless, shell globs are already better at it, and second, grep works on lines, not filenames. filenames can contain lines themselves.
[17:13] <geirha> luzifer9999: err that last message was for you, not dreamcat4 ^
[17:14] <luzifer9999> geirha, ok I saw that. THX
[17:14] <jere__> i have a module foo.ko, i run depmod -a in the same directory, but I find nothing against it in modules.dep
[17:14] <jere__> Why is that?
[17:15] <krabador> have developers changed the live boot menu options, on lubuntu 14.04.1 ?
[17:17] <emigrant-ntb> hello
[17:17] <emigrant-ntb> is it possible to ask here ?
[17:18] <DJones> emigrant-ntb: We don't know, you haven;t asked your Ubuntu support question yet
[17:19] <emigrant-ntb> i am looking how to setup association for mumble in ubuntu 14.04, mumble v. 1.2.8 ... i have on my website correct mumble:// url (which is functional in windowst) but i am unable to connect from ubuntu
[17:20] <emigrant-ntb> for firefox
[17:22] <neixer> anyone knows to disable this? -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73894/is-it-possible-to-remove-nautilus-search-box-from-the-desktop
[17:30] <dreamcat4> it seems easier to just reinstall utopic from scratch... ubuntu's recommended boot-repair tool just doesn't seem up to the job
[17:30] <dreamcat4> and such tool should be included  already in the ISO img (but unfortunately it isn't)
[17:31] <ObrienDave> dreamcat4, no, it comes from a PPA. not officially supported
[17:32] <ObrienDave> and as such, if it borks your system, don't come here for help
[17:32] <dreamcat4> yeah i know. i'm saying it would help a lot if there was an officially supported tool already on the ISO
[17:33] <dreamcat4> just to re-install grub / re-scan the partitions for boot drives
[17:33] <DJones> dreamcat4: You've been pointed to #ubuntu+1 for supprt with unrealeased and stillin development versions of Ubuntu
[17:33] <DJones> Please join that channel for support
[17:33] <dreamcat4> DJones: ok then
[17:36] <dreamcat4> DJones: perhaps the same suggestion is still relevant for 14.04 anyway since that happens to be an LTS release
[17:51] <griffin_> hello
[17:52] <griffin_> 20
[18:04] <fghfh> hello ubuntu users
[18:05] <fghfh> not realy a alot of conversation around here a ?
[18:05] <ObrienDave> do you have a support question?
[18:06] <bprompt> fghfh:    maybe not at the moment, bear in mind the channel topic though
[18:06] <k1l_> fghfh: you can take a look into the social channel #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to keep this channel clear for technical support, and if ther is non that is a good sign :)
[18:06] <k1l_> erm well, no technical issues is a good sign. no support would be a bad sign :)
[18:07] <fghfh> ohh thx for info guys didn t know
[18:07] <ObrienDave> that's what we do best. inform the uninformed ;P
[18:11] <facepalm> Not really having any issues but after checking .xsession-errors and looking around... Well anywho does any of this look important? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8540912/
[18:11] <sixequalszero> I keep programs in fullscreen however when switching workspace the title/menu bar shows; how do I stop this?
[18:28] <red__> hey folks, I've upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04, however when I boot with the 3.13 kernel, networking is not working, screen res is 640, if I boot with kernel version 3.11 it all looks fine
[18:34] <fghfh> hey i got a qiestion
[18:34] <daftykins> ask it
[18:34] <fghfh> sry for my bad english but i hope you understand me
[18:34] <ztane> hi, is there a way to migrate an *existing* (lvm) partition to md raid1 without copying all 1.5TB of data around?
[18:35] <ztane> so i'd want to move the entire pv to mdX that would contain the original pv disk...
[18:35] <daftykins> ztane: backup no matter what you do, 1.5TB is nothing these days
[18:35] <Hulio> can anyone show me how to install ubuntu along side with windows 8.1?
[18:36] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Hulio
[18:36] <fghfh> why after updating ubuntu 12.04 i got a "sleel" problem in ubuntu my pc goes slow freezes when i type it all gows verry slow and the screen flikers
[18:36] <fghfh> sleep*
[18:38] <fghfh> practically i can't use the sleep comand and its verry frustrating to restart the os all over again
[18:38] <sixequalszero> Can I do anything while software updater is updating
[18:39] <ztane> daftykins: ah nvm, I guess I will do it the "slow" way to make the system faster (striped layout)
[18:39] <m3n3chm0> sixequalszero sure
[18:39] <daftykins> ztane: err if you care about this data you shouldn't be using the equivalent of RAID 0...?
[18:40] <sixequalszero> I want to install things but resources are locked
[18:40] <user__> Hi everyone
[18:40] <fghfh> hi user__
[18:40] <m3n3chm0> sixequalszero you said anything... but the point is anything except isntall :)
[18:40] <c4rt3r84> are you root or sudo sixequalszero
[18:40] <m3n3chm0> jaja
[18:41] <user__> I've got a little issue on my laptop. when i clic on shutdown button in the menu, all the programs start beign unresponsive and it takes like 1 minute to give me the shutdown menu (restart, shutdown, logout)
[18:41] <sixequalszero> c4rt3r84: I'm gunna say sudo
[18:41] <user__> is there anyone that had the the same issue and solve it?
[18:42] <fghfh> user_ what os you have?
[18:42] <ztane> daftykins: striped raid 1 = 1+0 (or was it 0+1)
[18:42] <user__> i've got an xubuntu
[18:42] <user__> the lastest version
[18:42] <xubuntuewad> hi. is there any way to make flux work in xubuntu 14.04
[18:42] <daftykins> ztane: good stuff
[18:42] <fghfh> abd how about the sleep comand works?
[18:43] <ztane> daftykins: the naming's so confusing, linux can do the striping on 2 devices and no one knows what really to call it.
[18:43] <user__> fghfh, what command?
[18:43] <sixequalszero> How do I uninstall things?
[18:43] <fghfh> sleep like the stand by
[18:43] <user__> fghfh, if i go from terminal like shutdown -r now ir restarts imediatly
[18:43] <daftykins> ztane: 1+0 on 2 disks? nah that must be a mistake
[18:44] <c4rt3r84> user__: why not type "reboot"
[18:44] <user__> fghfh, idk, need to test. its just close the laptop lid right?
[18:44] <fghfh> he whats to shot dows but i guess it freezes
[18:44] <fghfh> well not allways work
[18:44] <user__> let me see
[18:44] <user__> 1 min
[18:45] <fghfh> just click on the menu insteed
[18:45] <fghfh> ok
[18:45] <user__> yes it works
[18:45] <ztane> daftykins: no its not, I have done it on many servers
[18:45] <sixequalszero> How do I stop the menu bar from showing everytime I switch workspace?
[18:46] <OerHeks> xubuntuewad, i would try redshift > http://askubuntu.com/questions/493507/flux-for-ubuntu-14-04-possible
[18:46] <user__> fghfh, humm, why i still got wifi internet after the sleep mode?
[18:46] <fghfh> user__ i asked you because i have a eal problem with that and the shot down word for me
[18:46] <user__> the irc not even shutdown
[18:46] <fghfh> because it resumes
[18:46] <daftykins> ztane: sounds terrible :)
[18:47] <fghfh> where it left off
[18:47] <user__> oh cool
[18:47] <user__> fghfh, what you thin i should do?
[18:47] <fghfh> my cable connection seems to close but when i resime it connects again
[18:47] <fghfh> well user__
[18:47] <fghfh> when you start
[18:47] <fghfh> having this problem?
[18:48] <ztane> daftykins: it is faster for reads than raid 1 (theoretically), sucks for writes.
[18:48] <user__> yes, i've installed yesterday. this is a brand new laptop
[18:48] <user__> ive get rid of w**** 8
[18:48] <user__> and installed imediatly the xubuntu :D
[18:48] <daftykins> ztane: the only way i can think of that functioning is if it splits each disk into halves and then treats all 4 halves as separate disks
[18:49] <fghfh> well if you have the problem for the begining i think its a compatibility bug from the os and the system
[18:49] <fghfh> my sleep work but after the update goes crazy
[18:49] <ztane> daftykins: it does (that is the "far layout")
[18:49] <daftykins> ztane: yeah that's a mistake :(
[18:50] <user__> fghfh, yeh, need to see
[18:50] <user__> fghfh, thanks anyway mate
[18:50] <ztane> daftykins: depends on definition of a mistake, well a degraded array with that setup will suck
[18:51] <fghfh> user__ what can i say :))
[18:56] <ztane> daftykins: ah someone had made a benchmark (alas now I am in console only)
[18:57] <ztane> raid10,f2 loses to raid 0 only on sequential write speed
[18:58] <ztane> twice as fast reads as on raid 1
[18:58] <fghfh> user__ no problem sry can't help you
[19:04] <dreamcat4> is 30GB enough space for an ubuntu partition if i keep my data on another drive?
[19:05] <eeee> dreamcat4: yes.
[19:05] <ztane> how did I re-setup grub?
[19:06] <ztane> my harddisk failed
[19:06] <ztane> I managed to copy the boot partition
[19:06] <ztane> and 14.04
[19:06] <bprompt> dreamcat4:     basic install is around 6gbs for 14.4
[19:07] <eeee> ztane: do you have a live usb?
[19:07] <ztane> now I have booted computer ;)
[19:07] <ztane> but the broken harddisk is now as sda, so I guess grub will guess drive numbers wrong?
[19:08] <eeee> sorry i dont understand
[19:08] <ztane> I have console only now, so it is really hard to browse internuts...
[19:09] <eeee> lol
[19:09] <ztane> I have the system running, how do I install grub :d
[19:09] <ztane> this is a brand new disk, but when I shut the computer down I bet the hdd with old boot will die :P
[19:09] <eeee> grub-install --recheck /dev/sdx
[19:10] <eeee> type sudo parted -l , and get the correct disk which has your installation, and/or where you want to put grub
[19:10] <eeee> replace /dev/sdx with the disk you want
[19:11] <ztane> seems to take forever, grub seems to probe my broken disk too
[19:11] <ztane> ah and ofc I have a gpt disk with bios computer blah,
[19:12] <ztane> I guess easier to just put this on a mbr disk :P
[19:12] <eeee> i think you need a 1mb bios-boot partition for gpt + bios
[19:13] <Anuska> Hi, i want to add widget on ubuntu, how i do?
[19:14] <eeee> ztane: did it work?
[19:14] <kia> hello
[19:15] <eeee> Anuska: no idea, but you might find conky useful
[19:15] <eeee> !info conky-all
[19:15] <ztane> eeee: I have an entry for the boot partition in "MBR" too, but grub does not think so and complains about GPT partition and blocklists and ext2 etc pfft.
[19:15] <Anuska> let me see
[19:16] <kia> what are some cool things to try out with ubuntu?
[19:16] <ztane> I guess I am just stupid for trying this
[19:17] <eeee> ztane: do you have a bios-boot partition ?
[19:17] <eeee> ( it's not the /boot )
[19:17] <ztane> eeee: nope
[19:17] <eeee> you need that
[19:17] <ztane> how do I do that?
[19:18] <eeee> enter cgdisk
[19:19] <ztane> ef02 partition?
[19:19] <Gerowen> Does DVD95 have an option to copy "all" of the video titles, or does it only convert the one that you select?
[19:20] <eeee> yes
[19:20] <jq-> So I accidently just deleted my /usr/share/php5 dir, how can I get it back?
[19:21] <ztane> eeee: haha, 2m was not big enough
[19:21] <eeee> Anuska: there are already made scripts online on forums btw
[19:21] <eeee> ztane: O.o
[19:21] <ztane> ah sorry :P
[19:21] <ztane> I wrote 2m so grub thought it was 11 sectors :D:D
[19:22] <eeee> oh
[19:22] <ztane> *gfdisk
[19:22] <eeee> hehe
[19:22] <ztane> *gdisk
[19:22] <ztane> *22 sectors
[19:24] <ztane> eeee: thanks, installation finished without error reported...
[19:24] <ztane> lets cross fingers
[19:25] <dae> Hi
[19:25] <dae> what is the difference of Ubuntu GNOME 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Beta 2 and Ubuntu Desktop Next 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Daily Build
[19:25] <dae> ?
[19:25] <shane__> Hello
[19:25] <shane__> I am getting the following error in my syslog. Is it something to worry about?
[19:25] <shane__> [Firmware Bug]: battery: (dis)charge rate invalid.
[19:26] <xangua> !14.10 | dae that neither one are currently supported here
[19:26] <eeee> dae: i'm not sure, i think ubuntu desktop next uses unity 8 or something like that
[19:26] <xangua> ubuntu uses unity, ubuntu gnome uses gnome shell, both use gnome desktop
[19:27] <eeee> xangua: he's asking about the ubuntu desktop next
[19:27] <ztane> shane__: prolly means that your battery tries to make your computer believe it takes 100 yrs to empty or
[19:27] <squinty> !testdisk > squinty
[19:27] <ztane> shane__: your battery generates energy from virtual particles :D
[19:28] <ztane> shane__: how I'd think is that can't trust the battery indicator...
[19:28] <shane__> Thanks...although the applet does show that the battery discharging at the expected rate
[19:28] <shane__> Is that something to worry about though?
[19:31] <dae> thanks you xangua , ubottu and eeee
[19:31] <another1> hi!
[19:32] <dae> i suppose it isn't a good idea to download this version for burn on DVD
[19:32] <dae> hi another1
[19:33] <both> Hi. Could anyone help me to fix my black screen problem, plz? Details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246704&p=13134476#post13134476
[19:34] <both> Steam OK.
[19:36] <energies23423> hi, I'm trying to install "True Combat Elite" as a game, but am having problems
[19:38] <another1> energies23423: what sort of problem?
[19:38] <energies23423> another1: one sec
[19:41] <energies23423> another1: I see this on a guide: "7. Extract TCE 0.49 and put the Folder "tcetest" in "/home/yourusername/.etwolf"
[19:41] <energies23423> I get no "tcetest"
[19:41] <energies23423> nor do I have a .etwolf folder
[19:41] <shane__> What kind of kind of trouble can running sensors-detect cause? I ran it about an hour ago, but then i read that it can cause trouble...however, my laptop seems to be running fine since then.
[19:42] <eeee> energies23423: press ctrl+h
[19:42] <dae> i suppose it preferable to use the 14.04 ?
[19:42] <eeee> dae: yes
[19:42] <dae> ok thanks
[19:42] <another1> energies23423: the dot at the beginning means it is a hidden directory/file
[19:42] <energies23423> another1: when I ls -a, I don't see it
[19:43] <eeee> energies23423: how is it supposed to be there in the first place?
[19:44] <another1> energies23423: use nautilus to see the directory enable the view hidden files option
[19:46] <another1> energies23423: when it is missing create the directory and copy the files over
[19:46] <mazingazeta> ciao
[19:46] <mazingazeta> !list
[19:48] <NGC3982> Seriosly?   A pretty old unit.  As fas as I can tell, the 4 drives that make up the RAID are fine and working correctly.  I think the power supply has failed.  I really don't like the unit anymore and would love to take the drives out and put them into my desktop computer.  I would like to get the data off the drives intact though.  So... I need to move 4 drives in a RAID 5 set to a new computer.  Any tips or suggestions
[19:57] <Boingo> would be great.
[19:58] <erle-> is there any clean way to adapt mozilla firefox and thunderbird to high resolution displays (200 ppi and more)
[19:58] <daftykins> Boingo: each RAID implementation can be proprietary, you'll need to do some research as to whether you can actually use any Linux based configurations to manage what the Promise controller created.
[19:58] <Boingo> daftykins: Yeah, I have been googling for a while.  Havent found anything yet.  That is why I was asking in here.
[19:59] <daftykins> Boingo: you'd probably be better off with #ubuntu-server , #linux , or more
[19:59] <Boingo> #linux us in some osrt of flame war with a troll.
[20:00] <Boingo> I step into what feels like a flaming bag of poop on my doorstep.
[20:00] <Boingo> Not much help there.
[20:00] <Boingo> I will try #ubunut-server thanks.
[20:02] <another1> Finetundra: if you start minecraft out of the console what error message is in the console displayed while crashing?
[20:02] <Kb50> Hello everyone.
[20:02] <sixequalszero> Hello Kb50
[20:03] <Finetundra> another1, how would i do that?
[20:03] <sixequalszero> So apparently update is installing sudoku
[20:03] <Finetundra> gotta reboot
[20:04] <Kb50> I am seeking out Zorin but the channel appears to be pretty much dead. As in nobody there. I am looking at 2 small issues. One is how to enlarge and change the mouse pointer, the other is related to probably something else hardware wise.
[20:04] <another1> Finetundra:  right click, properties, look at the line titled command
[20:04] <Kb50> Perhaps I should grab the channel list and seek out a IRC for Zorin instead.
[20:05] <another1> Finetundra: the path noted there you can type into console also
[20:05] <bubbasaures> Kb50, Just ubuntu here, you migh consider installing it, bigger support and all that zorin has or wants to be. ;)
[20:05] <OerHeks> it is #ZorinOS
[20:06] <OerHeks> we don't support derivates, as they have their own issues
[20:06] <Kb50> Yeah fell in love with Zorin, so I plan to stick with it for now. Perhaps it is the eye candy. Everything about it is perfect other than finding support.
[20:07] <LinxCat> xan: i just want the desktopHey guys. I had a win8 laptop, over which installed Ubuntu 14.04. During installation i erased all existing partitions and created new ones. Installation went through but after restart i am getting: "Kernel -panic - not synching: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel"
[20:07] <Finetundra> i'm back
[20:07] <Kb50> I know someplace there is a way to configure the mouse pointer, and/or a way to install a different mouse pointer theme but have no idea where to find it.
[20:08] <another1> hi james!
[20:08] <Finetundra> hello, another1
[20:09] <another1> Finetundra: any progress?
[20:09] <metallic> Kb50, it is easy to do that if you're using the KDE
[20:09] <Finetundra> lets check
[20:09] <metallic> if you're using unity...
[20:10] <metallic> it can be done, but there are less things that you can configure using the GUI
[20:11] <squinty> LinxCat:  you may need to see the following to determine if any of the information applies to your system  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:12] <Kb50> What desktop I thuink it is unity, how can I check from the terminal?
[20:12] <Finetundra> another1,  i'm unable to launch it from terminal
[20:13] <another1> Finetundra: why? error message?
[20:13] <Finetundra> another1, Error: Unable to access jarfile Minecraft.jar
[20:14] <Finetundra> yet it launches fine from the file manager
[20:14] <OerHeks> Kb50, "Zorin OS features our unique Look Changer program that we have created exclusively for Zorin OS. " so get help from them
[20:14] <scx> Hello
[20:14] <scx> Does anyone have the Monkey Island 2 Special Edition: LeChuck's Revenge on Steam?
[20:15] <Kb50> Yes I love the look changer, but it has no mouse pointer options.
[20:15] <netlar> Does Ubuntu Unity need to reindexed to find files recently added?
[20:15] <acerspyro> Two questions: 1. What repo do I need to add to get Blender 2.7? 2. why did GRUB and Plymouth suddently stop offering graphical display, and now only does text mode?
[20:16] <kostkon> Kb50, echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[20:17] <acerspyro> oh, I guess I need the current release instead of LTS?
[20:17] <Kb50> zoring desktop: unity
[20:17] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, 3rd party repos are your matter, Did you add a graphic driver?
[20:17] <another1> Finetundra: you have to start it with java.      java -jar minecraft.jar
[20:18] <acerspyro> bubbasaures: It installed with the OS, and I checked, it is the correct nvidida driver.
[20:18] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, 14.04 is the latest release.
[20:18] <acerspyro> bubbasaures: I see 15.10 here
[20:18] <OerHeks> acdf
[20:18] <Finetundra> another1, copied from the terminal:   java -jar minecraft.jar
[20:18] <Finetundra> Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
[20:18] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, Never messed with nvdia, but that is your culprit most likely on a text boot.
[20:19] <daftykins> acerspyro: it's not 2015 yet
[20:19] <OerHeks> acerspyro, utopic 14.10 will have 2.7, relese in 2 weeks
[20:19] <acerspyro> bubbasaures: It was working on SUSE but not on Arch...
[20:19] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, 14.10? that is the development, not released, and covered on #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <another1> Finetundra: you are in the right directory? path?
[20:19] <acerspyro> oh
[20:19] <Finetundra> oh
[20:19] <acerspyro> wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[20:20] <acerspyro> Thought 15.10 was released, but it was a prediction
[20:20] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, Your comparing OS and whether you see a splash?
[20:20] <acerspyro> So latest is LTS?
[20:20] <Finetundra> another1, not really sure how to do that
[20:20] <acerspyro> bubbasaures: I tried a lot of OSes. And on Arch, people told me that Plymouth didn't work with nvidida.
[20:20] <acerspyro> but it always worked on openSUSE with the same card.
[20:21] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, this is ubuntu support other OS are not even relevant different setuos.
[20:21] <bubbasaures> setups*
[20:21] <another1> Finetundra: you change to a directory with command cd
[20:21] <pauljw> Kb50, look for unity tweak tool in the software center.  that gives you access to more features to tweak including themes and cursors
[20:22] <acerspyro> bubbasaures: Stop being retarded, it's the same software with a different set-up, package manager, kernel tweaks and some add-ons.
[20:22] <Kb50> Did you try grub customizer to change the background? Or well most have no joy but I have Burg working on my Linux Mint on my laptop. I dont think it is graphic card specific, as it is only in 640X480 resolution most of the time.
[20:22] <SchrodingersScat> !language | acerspyro
[20:22] <acerspyro> What did I say again?
[20:23] <Finetundra> another1, how do i determine the directory?
[20:23] <scx> Finetundra: pwd?
[20:23] <bubbasaures> acerspyro, If you want help be respectful, your rhetoric is empty and means nothing, you are just generalizing, and welcome to ignore.
[20:23] <acerspyro> ty
[20:23] <Finetundra> scx, what?
[20:23] <acerspyro> I'll get help in #arch, they don't care, I can go off-topic whenever I want :D
[20:24] <kostkon> good
[20:24] <Kb50> pauljw: ok I will go look for that thanks! Didnt even know one existed! Cool.
[20:24] <scx> Finetundra: man pwd
[20:24] <streulma> hello, I have a Canon MG3250 printer/scanner. When I use Scangearmp, the preview is grey. When I change Histogram to 230 then it is white and normal. Is this a problem on Scangearmp on Linux? On Windows it is OK.
[20:24] <another1> Finetundra: well, it is noted in the propertiers of the icon to the app (right click/properties)
[20:25] <Finetundra> another1, makes sense.
[20:25] <another1> Finetundra: there is a whole path to the binary or executable file you need
[20:26] <Finetundra> another1, of course. i'm still a bit tired. not thinking thongs through
[20:26] <Finetundra> *things
[20:26] <another1> Finetundra: you can copy and paste the path, just type the cd in front of the line in terminal and switch to the path of the app
[20:28] <Finetundra> another1, no error. it also shows the same exact thing as the terminal in the launcher
[20:29] <another1> Finetundra: is there a file minecraft.jar in this path?
[20:29] <another1> Finetundra: ls -al
[20:29] <streulma> How to solve this? http://forums.usa.canon.com/t5/Personal-Printers/pixma-MG5350-scan-problem-in-linux/m-p/50355#M3012
[20:30] <Finetundra> another1, yes there is. it launched it without errors displayed.
[20:32] <another1> Finetundra: if it is launched try to provocate the till the error appears
[20:33] <another1> Finetundra: usually there will be some kind of error message which will give you further hints
[20:34] <foul_owl> Hi folks. Anyone managed to get an Oculus Rift DK1 working in Ubuntu?
[20:34] <Finetundra> another1, ok, but it may take some time
[20:35] <another1> Finetundra: no problem, I will be back tomorrow
[20:35] <metallic> sayonara baby
[20:36] <another1> bye
[20:37] <Finetundra> another1, bye
[20:42] <shane__> I see this error a lot in syslog: <warn> error requesting auth for org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.enable-disable-wifi: (3) GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Could not get UID of name ':1.62': no such name
[20:42] <shane__> Is it something to worry about?
[20:42] <shane__> Thanks!
[20:43] <shane__> My laptop seems to be running fine and I have not noticed any issues apart from some scary messages in syslog
[20:44] <Finetundra> what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu other than default DE and programs
[20:45] <metallic> not any relevant I think, Finetundra
[20:45] <eidet> anybody here who want's to give a noob a tip?
[20:46] <bprompt> Finetundra:      yoiu said it... .that's all, the DE and apps
[20:46] <eidet> i have an intel NUC with an integrated 4GB mmc card.
[20:47] <eidet> when i use the ubuntu 14.04 minimal image to install the system... the mmc is not detected in the partitioner.
[20:47] <eidet> based on information on the intel website the linux distro must contain the mmc_block kernel module.
[20:47] <adam_> hi
[20:48] <adam_> NegativeFlare,  hi
[20:48] <eidet> now when i install the ubuntu 14.04 desktop variant... the installer detects the mmc drive.
[20:48] <eidet> so i guess i need to somehow add this mmc kernel module to the minimal variant.
[20:49] <eidet> but i'am not very good with linux... i know how to do basic stuff... can anybody help me... or at least explain to me what's needed?
[20:50] <eidet> the ubuntu desktop variant is too large for the 4 GB mmc i need more free space so i wanted to start based on the minimal installer.
[21:02] <streulma> problem is solved :) downloaded source code from Canon, changed some values in a .c file and do dpkg-buildpackage. Solved.
[21:11] <Pinkamena_D> I have noticed in the past months that on google chrome going to a downloaded item and clicking 'show in folder' opens the folder in nautilus in the [background but does not pop it up innediatly instead requiring a second click on the nautilus icon. Is this the intended bahavior?
[21:12] <SchrodingersScat> could check your focus behavior in settings, see if it has an option for you
[21:18] <Rory> Pinkamena_D: This is NOT the default behaviour. Check the settings of Focus and Raise Behaviour in CompizConfig Settings Manager > General > General Options. (You may need to install the "ccsm" package first)
[21:18] <Rory> Pinkamena_D: From http://askubuntu.com/questions/165908/unity-nautilus-folder-opens-in-background
[21:19] <Rory> also I think the package is called compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:19] <s4my> have anybody here make icon pack for ubuntu 14.04 before
[21:21] <rebs> hey I want to make a link from the default documents folder to one on a different drive. i know i need to use symbolic links but im not sure how to go about it
[21:24]  * s4my WTF nobody can get help in this clusrerfuck
[21:25] <s4my> ANYBODY MADE A THEME OR ICON SET FOR UBUNTU BEFORE
[21:25] <ObrienDave> because you have not actually asked an Ubuntu support question
[21:27] <BenNZ> can anyone help with my eth0 connection , for some reason i cant connect using it , i cant see anything relevant in dmesg , i can connect to the network using the wireless connection
[21:27] <s4my> ObrienDave: oh support you say how about my touchpad two finger option is grayed out AND when i turn it off (the touchpad that is) with the physical button it turn on and off in infinit loop
[21:28] <Quatroking> hey guys, question: how can I make it so that my laptop only turns the screen off when inactive when it's running on battery power?
[21:28] <Quatroking> I want it to stay on forever when plugged in.
[21:28] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, somewhere in power manager
[21:28] <s4my> Quatroking: check the power options in system settings
[21:28] <BenNZ> Quatroking: in power management settings there should be an option for 'On Ac'
[21:28] <Guest33431> click on the batter
[21:28] <Guest33431> then Power Settings...
[21:29] <Guest33431> it's right there
[21:29] <Quatroking> all I can choose in the power settings is suspend and actions for critical power and closing the lid
[21:29] <Guest33431> i have 2 columns
[21:29] <Quatroking> same here, 2 columns, three dropdown menus
[21:30] <s4my> guys why is my touchpad two finger option is grayed out AND when i turn it off (the touchpad that is) with the physical button it turn on and off in infinit loop
[21:30] <Quatroking> in the brightness settings there's the option to turn the screen off after activity but that's a global setting and there's nothing that allows me to make that battery-only
[21:30] <Guest33431> ah
[21:30] <Guest33431> yes this could be
[21:31] <JCT> can someone who knows about virtualbox help me with virtualbox?
[21:31] <daftykins> JCT: it'd be better that you ask in their channel
[21:31] <s4my> JCT: what's up
[21:31] <JCT> they have one?
[21:31] <ObrienDave> jct ask in #vbox
[21:31] <daftykins> #vbox i think
[21:31] <hipitihop> JCT, have been using it for some time, what's the issue
[21:31] <daftykins> take it to the relevant channel please guys
[21:31] <JCT> ok
[21:32] <Quatroking> in windows these settings are real easy to find but ubuntu doesn't seem to have any sort of power plans at all :(
[21:32] <s4my> help plz my touchpad two finger option is grayed out
[21:32] <karvapeffa> FATAL ERROR - REMOVE MIRC FROM YOUR COMPUTER!
[21:33] <Guest33431> Quatroking, i'm sure there's some workaround for this
[21:33] <geirha> uh oh
[21:33] <Quatroking> probably
[21:33] <Guest33431> ask in the forums or google :>
[21:33] <hephaestusrg> where can i find wifi drivers for this card http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DMCVKMU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[21:34]  * s4my FUCK THIS NO ONE IS HELPING
[21:34] <JCT> Virtual Windows XP won't boot: no bootable medium found! 1024 MB ram allocated, 20 gb HDD allocated. let me create a virtual machine
[21:34] <Quatroking> not with that attitude
[21:34] <daftykins> ^ agreed
[21:35] <daftykins> also a whole 2 minutes were committed to waiting there, a valiant effort
[21:35] <Quatroking> hephaestusrg, go wild: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=17045
[21:35] <hipitihop> Anyone with bluetooth streaming ? I have a Bose portable speaker which allows any blutooth device to pair and stream music to it. I would like to setup my ubuntu box connected to my soundsystem to do the same i.e. accept pairing and be streamed to
[21:35] <JCT> name: jctvirt
[21:35] <daftykins> hephaestusrg: i've heard of issues with the intel 7xxx series, i wouldn't get one if you're deciding to buy right now
[21:35] <daftykins> JCT: still in the wrong channel.
[21:35] <JCT> type: WXP 32  bit
[21:35] <JCT> i know
[21:35] <JCT> sry
[21:36] <daftykins> why did you paste it then?
[21:37] <hephaestusrg> oh man i just bought it daftykins
[21:37] <daftykins> :(
[21:37] <Quatroking> at least there are native linux drivers?
[21:37] <daftykins> things might have changed by now, but i kept hearing people say their connections dropped repeatedly
[21:37] <Quatroking> hipitihop, from what I understand about BT speakers is that all you have to do is pair it up like any other device
[21:37] <daftykins> anyway, you may have better luck
[21:37] <hephaestusrg> hmm i hope so
[21:38] <hephaestusrg> i'm trying to stretch my old eee pc 1000
[21:38] <Quatroking> hephaestusrg, is my link of any use to you
[21:38] <hephaestusrg> Quatroking: seems like it could be
[21:38] <Quatroking> :)
[21:38] <daftykins> you don't download drivers manually like in Windows land, so you shouldn't need to do anything really.
[21:38] <Quatroking> daftykins, that kind of changed since windows 7 actually
[21:39] <hipitihop> Quatroking, sure, what I'm trying to do though is setup my ubuntu box so that it is happy accept a stream from say an iphone or android and just play it over normal audio
[21:39] <Quatroking> a large amount of hardware has its drivers auto-downloaded by windows nowadays, especially gpu's and stuff like that
[21:39] <daftykins> Quatroking: sorry, disagree 100% - i predominantly use and administrate Windows for a living.
[21:39] <Quatroking> oh
[21:39] <daftykins> Quatroking: yes and they're all outdated. :) anyway, Windows is off topic.
[21:39] <Quatroking> but it always downloads my stuff :I
[21:40] <daftykins> yeah, no.
[21:40] <hephaestusrg> alright well i guess ill cross my fingers and hope it's good
[21:40] <Quatroking> hipitihop, so what you want to do is have your ubuntu machine act as a middle man between your speakers and your android/iphone?
[21:41] <hephaestusrg> yeah i see a tgz file on ther website
[21:41] <LinxCat> ould someone look at boot-repair log at paste.ubuntu.com/8541963 and tell me why i am getting a "kernel panic - not synching: no init found" error?
[21:41] <hephaestusrg> how would i actually install it thought http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm
[21:41] <hipitihop> Quatroking, not quite, just want ubuntu to accept a stream and play it ... the fact that I take adio out and plug it into my sound system is a btw.
[21:42] <hephaestusrg> or would it just work with apt-get update
[21:43] <Quatroking> hipitihop, that should be doable, I've done it before on my windows desktop so I don't see why ubuntu wouldn't be able to do it
[21:43] <hipitihop> Quatroking, I'm reading this at the moment, same requirements  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1464189
[21:43] <Quatroking> it's really just sending audio to your machine and having it output to the machine speakers
[21:43] <Quatroking> check this article out http://blog.stevenocchipinti.com/2012/10/bluetooth-audio-streaming-from-phone-to.html/
[21:44] <Quatroking> Huh, I could try that out myself right now
[21:44] <Digipeng> I don't have internet to my ubuntu 14.04 lts desktop vm and it is connected.
[21:44] <Quatroking> vmware/virtualbox/microsoft virtual pc?
[21:44] <Digipeng> vmware
[21:45] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, Is the HD with ubuntu first read in the bios?
[21:45] <Quatroking> Digipeng, did you use the ubuntu/linux preset or not
[21:45] <BenNZ> can anyone help me with my eth0 problem , i cant connect , but from the mii-tool command i get eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-HD flow-control, link ok
[21:45] <hipitihop> Quatroking, thanks reading through your link now
[21:45] <Digipeng> no
[21:46] <Digipeng> standard 3.x kernel setting
[21:46] <Digipeng> it was working last night
[21:47] <Quatroking> what is your ifconfig output
[21:47] <ki7mt> Hello all, I should know this but it eludes me at the moment, how do determine if a package is part of the base desktop install, be it Ub, Lub or Xub ?
[21:47] <Digipeng> the other vms work fine on the same network and the vm for ubuntu is connected to the virutal net.
[21:48] <Digipeng> pasting in paste bin just a sec
[21:49] <Digipeng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8542054/
[21:49] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, The bootrepair app ran the correct fix, in the script your usb shows as sda and the HD sdb is all, reversed, however the mbr of sdb has grub.
[21:49] <ki7mt> In particular, I need to know if zenity is a default package install as I have a package postinst Debian script that requires it, and I really don't want to do a Pre-Depends if I can avoid it..
[21:50] <daftykins> !info zenity
[21:50] <daftykins> optional = not installed as standard
[21:50] <LinxCat> bubba: hold on let me check
[21:51] <LinxCat> bubba: yes HDD is at the top of the list in Boot priority in BIOS
[21:52] <LinxCat> bubba: so how can i fix this?
[21:52] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, tab compete nicks, looks like it should boot what do you see on your end.
[21:52] <ki7mt> daftykins, Thanks, I knew there was an easy way, but had a brain block.
[21:53] <daftykins> ki7mt: no ideas how to do it without ubottu though ;)
[21:53] <Digipeng> bubbasaures: i pasted ifconfig
[21:53] <daftykins> apt-cache policy and showpkg showed nothing to me
[21:54] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: it boots into GRUB, then i hit enter to select Ubuntu and get "Kernel panic - not synching: no init found"
[21:54] <guntbert> daftykins: use  apt-cache show
[21:54] <LinxCat> "try passing init=option to kernel"
[21:54] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, Have you tried an earlier kernel?
[21:54] <LinxCat> no
[21:55] <ki7mt> daftykins, apt-caceh show zenity |grep Priority
[21:55] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: i only see one kernel version in grub
[21:55] <ki7mt> whoops apt-cache .. ..
[21:55] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, 2nd line in the grub menu is a folder where they are, try the top one. We just had a kernel upgrade, maybe it did not finish.
[21:56] <eeee> ki7mt: gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | grep "Package: zenity"
[21:56] <daftykins> ki7mt: ty :)
[21:56] <eeee> that'll tell you if it is installed in the ubuntu installation
[21:56] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: second line is memory test for me
[21:57] <ki7mt> eeee, Is that from a base  / new installation standpoint ?
[21:57] <eeee> it's installed here, and apt-cache policy confirms it, (unless it got pulled by something else)
[21:57] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: i am in grub command line
[21:57] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, There is a recovery line it has the earlier kernels
[21:58] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: i only see linux <IP_ADDRESS>-generic and <IP_ADDRESS>-generic (recovery mode) in advanced options
[21:58] <ki7mt> eeee, I have it as well, on Ubuntu Desktop, it's Xub && Lub that I'm concerned about. However, it does show up in the Tasks for all the desktop meta in apt-cache.
[21:58] <eeee> ki7mt: yes, it is.
[21:58] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, the grub menu has all the kernels installed available
[21:58] <droidbuster> i am stuck in grub rescue after swapping a disk drive out. not the bootable. but When i list the disks i have a (hd0) (hd0,1) (hd1) (hd1,1) (hd2) (hd2,2) and nothing i do is able to list in depth the drives, partitions, tables. This PC is not accessable Via any means. It does not boot from a usbStick, nor have any CD, DVD besides a live other disk. And since this computer is the only one with a burner how the heck do i get
[21:58] <droidbuster>  detailed information on drives, partitions and tables, and set them accordingly
[21:58] <ki7mt> eeee, ok thanks.
[21:58] <eeee> ki7mt: i've confirmed it is installed, http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest
[21:59] <eeee> it's in the manifest for 14.04.1
[21:59] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: so in my case there is only 1 version
[21:59] <ki7mt> eeee, That's where I was going first, but wa not sure if the manifest was the actual installed packages, or available.
[22:00] <ObrienDave> LinxCat, try doing a dist-upgrade
[22:00] <ki7mt> eeee, Anyways, thanks for turning the lights back on :-)
[22:00] <eeee> ki7mt: no problem
[22:00] <LinxCat> Obrien: from grub command prompt?
[22:01] <Digipeng> droidbuster: what was the reason for the swapout?
[22:01] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, grub command prompt like this grub>
[22:02] <LinxCat> that is there i am at
[22:02] <LinxCat> there=where
[22:02] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, You need the grub menu.
[22:03] <bubbasaures> would help anyway
[22:03] <droidbuster> Digipeng: To many computers, to many drives and i am, was stripping all the good parts, drives, power supplies so i can give the other pc's to a friend
[22:03] <LinxCat> omg you guys are killing me. i can get the grub menu and i can get to the grub command prompt.
[22:04] <gfgre> I have ubuntu 12.04 and when I ran apt-get install php5 it installed php 5.3, shouldn't it install 5.5?
[22:05] <eeee> !info php5 precise
[22:05] <eeee> gfgre: ^^^ nope
[22:05] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, Than your misunderstanding that the grub prompt is not important here got in your way, it seems this may be new to you is all. So you have only one kernel, this a new install, or have you removed kernels?
[22:05] <Digipeng> droidbuster: what was the setup before the drive was taken out?
[22:06] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, grub prompt here is generally an error is all.
[22:06] <droidbuster> Digipeng: Ubuntu 12.04 primary hd 1TB, 160HD Windows XP
[22:06] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: new install onto a laptop which had win8
[22:07] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, So ubuntu only?
[22:07] <Digipeng> droidbuster: the 160 gb hard drive the one that was removed?
[22:07] <droidbuster> Digipeng: now it is 4tb,1tb, 500gb. Gig
[22:07] <droidbuster> Digipeng: yes
[22:07] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: during installation, i went into the custom option and deleted all partitions and created two, one for root one for swap.
[22:07] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: yet
[22:08] <LinxCat> "yes"
[22:08] <tiberios> hey guys
[22:08] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, W8 brings the uefi gpt questions, are you familiar with these acronyms?
[22:08] <Digipeng> droidbuster: tell me about your system how old is it?
[22:09] <Basketball> !14.04
[22:09] <Basketball> !14.10
[22:09] <Basketball> is it ready yet
[22:09] <tiberios> I'm having an issue with the xserver -  until now I've been booting using the passing grub the text option as I don't normally need X running on the machine
[22:09] <droidbuster> Digipeng: Idk lol 1.8ghz athalon 4 gig ram...
[22:09] <Susning> If I'm on a laptop using Ubuntu 14.04 and battery drains - will the computer exit the system in some kind of "resume-mode" or state that is resumable after i start the computer again?
[22:09] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: yes. so in order to be able to first boot to my USB with buntu, i had to go into bios and change boot type of EUFI to legacy. Only then was i able to select/change boot source
[22:10] <droidbuster> msi k7n2 delta2
[22:10] <Susning> Is that an option? I've drained the battery a couple of times and from what I see the computer just turns of whichs doesnt seem very "good".
[22:10] <tiberios> I've recently tried booting to X again and I don't get a login screen, it just goes blank
[22:10] <tiberios> any suggestions?
[22:10] <Digipeng> bingo
[22:11] <eeee> Susning: if you remove the power off option, it will suspend, and eventually turn off
[22:11] <Susning> eeee how is that done?
[22:11] <brainproxy> this almost works: `cat some | tr '[:punct:]' ' '`
[22:11] <eeee> Susning: settings > power
[22:11] <ridethespiral> Can someone help me figure out why my display settings keep changing when using dual displays??
[22:12] <Susning> eeee thanks i'll look at that
[22:12] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, Cool it sounds in general like your aware of uefi bios and a gpt partition table. Did you check the original iso's md5sum, it may be just a bad download.
[22:12] <brainproxy> the thing is that I want to subtract the hyphen from the :punct: class
[22:12] <Digipeng> droidbuster: that computer doesn't support a 4tb hard disk drive
[22:12] <eeee> Susning: there's hibernate there, but it is grayed out for me.
[22:12] <Digipeng> droidbuster: as a boot drive that is
[22:12] <droidbuster> Digipeng: :/
[22:12] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: i can the ubuntu from that usb in "Try ubuntu without installation" mode and it seems to be working fine
[22:12] <droidbuster> 500 gb ? windows ?
[22:12] <gfgre> eeee sorry, I mean ubuntu 14.04!
[22:13] <eeee> !info php5
[22:13] <droidbuster> but the fact is grub is the issue here with the no such device BS...
[22:13] <eeee> gfgre: yes you should have php5.5
[22:14] <kubunto> how can i tell what ports are open?
[22:14] <kubunto> in my firewall
[22:15] <bubbasaures> LinxCat, It is just that live is not using all the download like the install would be, not a fair comparison. Could be a hard ware/computer issue or software, google might have something. This is variable and outliers to be honest, no easy answer, starting with a sum check is correct.
[22:16] <LinxCat> bubbasaures: should i try re-installing without the internet connected? this way it will only use what is on USB?
[22:16] <tiberios> anyone
[22:16] <bubbasaures> !md5sum | LinxCat
[22:17] <Susning> eeee "When power is critically low", 2 options where one is "Power off" and one is "Hibernate". There is nothing selected there atm, Hibernate is greyed out.
[22:17] <Digipeng> droidbuster: its built into your bios http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2754/~/hard-drives-greater-than-2-tb-do-not-work-on-existing-operating-systems
[22:18] <eeee> Susning: ok, same here. I have no experience with the power off option.
[22:18] <Susning> eeee just found article regarding activating hibernate.
[22:18] <droidbuster> Digipeng: ya i have to figure this out bc honestly with 6 hd's out here i can be sure the origional drives that was in there
[22:18] <eeee> Susning: nice
[22:19] <droidbuster> and i cant lose either windows, or ubuntu because of software, etc
[22:19] <eeee> Susning: any link?
[22:19] <genii> kubunto: If you're using the one that came by default with Ubuntu: sudo ufw status
[22:19] <kubunto> genii: if not, would i have to go to the router's firewall in browser?
[22:19] <Susning> eeee,  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[22:19] <Digipeng> droidbuster: okay boot drive has to be less then 2 tb on your motherboard
[22:20] <eeee> Susning: thanks
[22:20] <gfgre> eeee it's because the sources file is using all the repos for precise. is it safe to change all references from precise to trusty?
[22:20] <genii> kubunto: If you mean your router and not your computer, log into the router and check.
[22:20] <eeee> gfgre: if you're using 14.04 , yes i guess, why is it using precise anyways?
[22:21] <droidbuster> Digipeng: what are the grub  rescue commands besides ls insmod set and unset... very very limited access i can see many drives but zero details about any
[22:21] <gfgre> eeee i don't know but it's a vps so i'm guessing my host is on crack
[22:21] <BenNZ> is anyone able to help be with eth0 connection problems
[22:22] <eeee> gfgre: ask them about it.
[22:22] <Digipeng> BeNz:I am having problems as well
[22:25] <Digipeng> droidbuster: okay so type ls
[22:25] <droidbuster> yes
[22:26] <droidbuster> as said before i come up with just hd0 hd1 hd1,1 hd2 hd2,2
[22:26] <droidbuster> nothing descriptive
[22:26] <droidbuster> like shooting in the dark
[22:26] <Digipeng> droidbuster:  okay then type  ls (hd0)/
[22:27] <droidbuster> unknown filesystem
[22:28] <Digipeng> droidbuster:  try ls (hd1,1)/
[22:29] <droidbuster> i did to every drive and i am not liking this Everyone is unknown. in the only cd i have slax live every drive registers and displays contents
[22:30] <Digipeng> I may have put a typeo it might be ls (hd1,1) /
[22:31] <Digipeng> theres a space after ) and before /
[22:31] <droidbuster> Digipeng: i checked every drive as you stated and
[22:31] <droidbuster> Digipeng: ok i will look into it and Thank you for your help.
[22:33] <ihsw> hi, i installed compizconfig-settings-manager and i was trying to turn off window shadows, but now unity won't load, what do?
[22:33] <droidbuster> Digipeng:
[22:33] <Digipeng> what we're looking for is a root partition once we find it we can go about booting
[22:34] <droidbuster> still the same result except this time disk hd1,1 came back with no such disk.
[22:34] <Digipeng> hmm
[22:35] <droidbuster> Digipeng: I think i am going to try from Slax and work with gparted if i can get it to boot into windows update the motherboard so i can boot from usb and properly fix this\
[22:36] <Bashing-om> droidbuster: hdo= 1st hard drive, hd1= 2nd hard drive ; msdos1= 1st partition, msdos2= 2nd partition // so ls -lh (hd0,msdos1)/boot would show the boot files IF they exist on the 1st hard drive's 1st partition. Hope this helps.
[22:37] <droidbuster> Digipeng: Thank you very much i will give it a try in a bit.
[22:39] <Digipeng> bashing-om helped. yw
[22:40] <Digipeng> look for boot files /boot is a tell tale sign  or vmlinuz*
[22:41] <droidbuster> Bashing-om: Thank you as well
[22:41] <Digipeng> droidbuster: here droid this is helpful http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/
[22:42] <Susning> eeee, i followed the instructions and now it hibernates both when i close lid and when battery is low. works nice as far as i have tested now.
[22:43] <Susning> eeee hibernate eventually turned off computer fully and reboot went back on fully with everything left (ssd system drive helps out a lot with getting up fast) :)
[22:44] <BenNZ> can i get some help with my wired connection , i cant see any errors in dmesg , the nm-applet keeps trying to connect but it fails to connect , does anyone have any ideas on what the problem is ?
[22:45] <droidbuster> Digipeng: thats if i make it to grub not grub rescue lol
[22:45] <zykotick9> BenNZ: does your NIC has a light?  is it on?  2nd, does your network have a DHCP server, and are you using dhcp?
[22:45] <zykotick9> s/has a light/have a light/
[22:45] <BenNZ> zybyes the light is on , and yes the router is a dhcp and i can connect to it using the wln0 connection
[22:45] <BenNZ> *wlan0
[22:46] <Basketball> i used the script from here http://askubuntu.com/questions/61708/automatically-sleep-and-wake-up-at-specific-times to sleep my pc and to wake a certain time except it never wakes up
[22:46] <zykotick9> BenNZ: do you have some weird LAN hardware then?  amazing you can get wlan0 working, but NOT eth0....
[22:46] <rathitlike> Problem xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set overscan on. Cause weird display. Radeon driver.
[22:47] <tiberios> can anyone help me with a strange xorg problem, basically when I boot up 14.04 lightdm seems to start but rather than giving me a login screen I just get a black screen...
[22:48] <BenNZ> zykotick9: not really , it was 2 weeks ago , went on holiday , not i cant seem to connect using the wired connection
[22:48] <rathitlike> tiberios: what video card?
[22:48] <rathitlike> Problem xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set overscan on. Cause weird display. Radeon driver.
[22:49] <rathitlike> tiberios: what video card?
[22:49] <tiberios> rathitlike: not sure, it's an onboard one on an older abit mobo
[22:49] <BenNZ> zykotick9: worst yet , its seems to work sometimes . bit not others
[22:49] <zykotick9> BenNZ: ahh, so it did work at one time?  in that case, i really don't have any suggestions :(  sorry, i don't actually use N-M...  good luck.
[22:50] <rathitlike> tiberios: do u know how to edit grub during boot?
[22:51] <trndr> droidbuster: scroll down on the link digigeng gave you, finding the correct partition is still an ls guessing game
[22:51] <tiberios> I don't seem to get a grub screen, suspect it is due to it not having a timeout on the screen or something
[22:52] <rathitlike> tiberios: You probably have just ubuntu installed then.
[22:52] <zykotick9> tiberios: holding shift after BIOS use to show grub
[22:52] <tiberios> ok, will do that.
[22:53] <tiberios> rathitlike: so what do you want me to do in grub?
[22:53] <rathitlike> tiberios: just a temporary work around by adding a command nomodeset.
[22:53]  * zykotick9 wonders what's up with grub2 prompt in #u right now?  the only thing i use that for, is to know i need to reboot and fix my grub?!?!
[22:54] <tiberios> rathitlike: just at the end of the grub config?
[22:54] <rathitlike> tiberios: no enter it just before the word QUEIT splash.
[22:55] <tiberios> ok, will give that a go.  wish me luck :)
[22:58] <rathitlike> Problem xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set overscan on. Cause weird display. Radeon driver.
[22:59] <Desperado_> hi everybody, there is someone that couldb use help me? i need some clarify on gru
[22:59] <sveinse> I'm running gnome-shell on 14.04. To connect to a smb share I can use smb:// in nautilus. How can I specify user name?
[22:59] <genii> !info gru
[22:59] <genii> Hm.
[23:00] <Desperado_> grub sorry, misstype
[23:01] <genii> sveinse: smb://user@wherever
[23:02] <facepalm> !info grub | Desperado_
[23:03] <Desperado_> i know something on grub, but i have to configure in a different mode this time
[23:03] <facepalm> Different mode?
[23:03] <genii> Possibly EFI is my guess
[23:04] <Desperado_> i have 2 ubuntu system (1 desktop 1 server) on the same pc, but on different HD. so i have install grub on ech hd. but only one system boot, when i select the second OS on grub the pc reboot only
[23:06] <excelsiora> hi
[23:06] <excelsiora> trying to update with the gui, not enough free disk space, should I go command line?
[23:06] <camtron> Does anyone know if Enlightenment 19 can be successfully installed on Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:07] <daftykins> excelsiora: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to share the output of "df -h" ?
[23:08] <Desperado_> noone could help me?
[23:11] <Tiberios> rathitlike: nomodeset doesn't appear to have made any difference
[23:12] <bubbasaures> Desperado_, run sudo update-grub in the OS that is first in that grub menu.
[23:12] <eeee> Desperado_: boot the first system, try to update-grub
[23:13] <bubbasaures> 2 hd's 2 mbr's 2 ubuntu's, either mbr boot will both, just has to have the mbr's in order with the OS on that HD
[23:15] <Desperado_> if i update grub nothing change, i already see the menu entry for other OS (like ubuntu 14.04 (on /sdb1)) but not start if i select that
[23:16] <Desperado_> bubbasaures explaine to me, i need details
[23:16] <bubbasaures> Desperado_, Which install is at the top of the grub menu?
[23:17] <Desperado_> Ubuntu desktop is on top of menu
[23:17] <Desperado_> and it start
[23:17] <Desperado_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8542400/
[23:17] <bubbasaures> Desperado_, Can you pastbin sudo fdik -l
[23:18] <Desperado_> just doing it
[23:18] <bubbasaures> fdisk*
[23:18] <Tiberios> rathitlike: I've just noticed that while the screen is blank, if I hit the return key on teh connected keyboard, unity-greeter suddenly shows up in top
[23:18] <Tiberios> it's like it's working fine, but nothing is being displayed on the monitor
[23:18] <Desperado_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8542400/
[23:20] <bubbasaures> Desperado_, So sda is the desktop sdb is the server?
[23:20] <Desperado_> yes
[23:20] <Desperado_> and sda desktop start
[23:22] <bubbasaures> Desperado_, So do this, in the desktop run sudo grub-install /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub  this make that install control the sda=mbr of that HD. Do the same command from the server command line which should boot after this first command. however in the server it is sdb not sda
[23:24] <Desperado_> i have installed grub on sda, i could try to update or reinstall, but i can't do the same command on server because it's don't boot
[23:24] <Desperado_> but i have installed grub on sdb too when i have installed it
[23:26] <bubbasaures> Desperado_, It should boot after the command I gave you. you than run in the server terminal.  sudo grub-install /dev/sdb ; sudo update-gru
[23:26] <daftykins> Desperado_: you don't put a GRUB her disk
[23:26] <daftykins> *per
[23:27] <bubbasaures> daftykins, Yeah way more complex than it has to be, heh.
[23:27] <daftykins> :(
[23:27] <waxhead_> hey everyone... I've restored a tar.gz file to my /home directory and it's done something odd
[23:27] <waxhead_> this is what I get when I try moving files around as the user
[23:28] <waxhead_> mv: cannot move âshepdâ to âshepherd.1â: Permission denied
[23:28] <Desperado_> i have a grub per disk, i'm sure of that, 1 grub on sda 1 grub on sdb
[23:28] <waxhead_> I can move the file as root, but not as the user
[23:28] <bubbasaures> Desperado_ If you just run the install and update and keep the sda first in the bios, both OS should boot from grub
[23:28] <Desperado_> ii try to run grub install in sda desktop
[23:28]  * ObrienDave stays out of this mess
[23:29] <bubbasaures> Desperado_ run this whole command  sudo grub-install /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Desperado_: bubbasaures I am watching, I multi boot, and have grub installed to each disk BUT 30_os-prober is disabled on all but the master boot system.
[23:31] <Desperado_> how i could disable 30_os probe on system that not boot? chroot?
[23:31] <ObrienDave> grub-customizer ;P
[23:32] <Desperado_> ok i run command on sda desktop, grub install going OK and grub see 2 ubuntu (1 on sdb)
[23:32] <bubbasaures> the only problem here is not understanding grub, a real basic area tah boot
[23:32] <Desperado_> now?
[23:33] <OerHeks> why do you want to chainload?
[23:33] <Desperado_> i'm sorry if i don't understand, really. i try to do it, i ask for help because i can't figure it out of situations
[23:34] <ObrienDave> Desperado_, a word of advise, come here with questions BEFORE you want to do anything :)
[23:34] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, I have 4 OS on my one HD, me to.
[23:35] <Desperado_> so, i have run command on sda, then?
[23:36] <evan__> has anyone encountered issues with battle net on crouton
[23:36] <Desperado_> i'm here for understand, not be scary for me, my system it's protected, i don't miss data or other. only i want to use this system and i can't do it
[23:36] <ObrienDave> evan__, NOT an Ubuntu support issue, thanks
[23:37] <Desperado_> i try to reboot on sdb?
[23:37] <Tiberios> hrm, given that rathitlike has gone, does anyone have any more suggestions for getting x working properly on 14.04?
[23:39] <Bashing-om> bubaI have 4 OSs on 2 drives, presently considering how I am going to re-arange booting, not real happy with the present configuration ! .. I have lubuntu embeded in sda7 (extended) and not working out too well when the kernel is upgrded. I am still *thinking*.
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Desperado_: bubbasaures :: do as bubba has directed, is one way, decide on what is the be that master booting system,. We can test from grub what does boot; then take corrective actions.
[23:43] <Desperado_> so how? i want sda to master boot HD, and it boot, how could i make sdb boot if selected?
[23:45] <chimpboy> hi everyone i am a chimp
[23:47] <bubbasaures> Desperado_ Have you run sudo grub-install /dev/sda tha sudo update-grub in the desktop and than tried the reboot to the server?
[23:47] <bubbasaures> than*
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Desperado_: As you want sda as master, set in bios to boot that 1st hard drive, boot into the system and -> sudo update-grub <- that 'might' pick up sdb. IF it does then boot into the server install from sda and there also re-install grub to the MBR of sdb, and now IMPORTANT disable 30_os-prober in sdb. Problems booting into sbd we can work from a liveDVD or a CHroot .
[23:49] <chachan> hey guys, I have a public IP address assigned by my ISP but it has a firewall and there's no way I can do the forwarding trick. To solve this, I want to create a VPN so that my me and my partner can work but should I install this server outside my network right?, otherwise I may continue the same problem to access to the OpenVPN server, or can I have the OpenVPN server inside my network and "do something" to make it accessible to my
[23:49] <chachan> partner (from outside my network) ?
[23:50] <Kb50> My bios (old system using Asrock Conroe MB) automagically picks Master IDE when it boots) but some computers might not. Then on my system I have a removable drive bay, which has the Master drive in it, and then a second HD (sdb) with Windows XP on it.
[23:51] <Kb50> Grub seems confused or delayed. However being Western Digital drives, it could be I got to play with the jumpers of the drives to be sure its not just that.
[23:51] <Desperado_> ok, i try after reinstall and update grub on sda, nothing changed. Now i try to boot in sdb and install and update grub on it and then disable 30 os right? i try
[23:52] <Kb50> So my system is with Linux on sda and windows Xp on sdb. If I remove the sda (Linux) drive then Xp boots very fast, but with the sda in place thre is like a 30 second dead time before the Grub screen appears. But I can boot either OS just fine.
[23:53] <Kb50> And yes I ran update so everything shows up ok.
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> chachan: not sure why you wouldn't be able to port forward, but if that's completely off the table, then yeah, I think you would need to have the VPN outside and reachable, unless you can do something with a reverse tunnel
[23:54] <chachan> SchrodingersScat: thanks =/
[23:57] <excelsiora> /dev/sda1                    236M  200M   24M  90% /boot
[23:58] <excelsiora> ^ regarding trying to update with the gui, not enough free disk space, should I go command line?
[23:58] <excelsiora> sudo apt-get clean doesn't help
[23:59] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: What release ? .. 14.04 try terminal command -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- to remove the old kernels ( will not remove precise kernels !) .
[23:59] <excelsiora> 14.04
[23:59] <excelsiora> I don't think it did anything


[01:44] <vsingh165> does anyone know how I can build libreoffice with unity menu integration from the git sources?  I know how to do make dev-install, etc but not sure how to get it with unity menus.
[04:34] <micahg> infinity: I never saw the chromium armhf fix go in, so since we're close to beta 2, I'm going to have to upload just to drop the spurious recommends
[04:34] <infinity> micahg: Can you nag Chris about it?  But yeah, go ahead and do that anyway.
[04:35] <micahg> infinity: I don't see him at the moment and might not be available online before beta 2
[04:35]  * infinity nods.
[04:35] <infinity> I'm on VAC until next week too, but I'll see if I can catch up with him.
[04:35] <infinity> It needs to be fixed before release.
[04:35] <micahg> ok
[04:56] <Mirv> xnox: didrocks hasn't wanted to have the GTK style support build in before the appmenu-qt5 is in, since he's seeing some graphical corruption in menus with the style support in (a graphics driver issue, but he has relatively common model nevertheless - hasn't been checked for ca. two weeks or so)
[05:00] <Mirv> we didn't find other machines having the menu problem though either, or hear from the qt5-beta-proper users, but still.
[05:01] <Mirv> now the appmenu FFe has however been approved, so we can proceed after required testings
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[08:31] <tvoss> seb128, ping
[08:31] <seb128> tvoss, hey
[08:31] <tvoss> seb128, good morning :) quick question: how can I find out if a fix to a debian package has propagated to ubuntu?
[08:31] <tvoss> seb128, bug and fix in question are here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=701779
[08:36] <tvoss> seb128, happy to look myself if you can give me some pointers :)
[08:41] <seb128> tvoss, good morning to you too, sorry was away some minutes
[08:42] <tvoss> seb128, welcome back then :)
[08:42] <seb128> tvoss, there is no easy "is that debian bug fixed in ubuntu" check, basically look at the debian bug and what version of the package fixed the issue and look at what is in ubuntu
[08:42] <seb128> tvoss, or "pull-lp-source <source> raring" and look at the content of the package
[08:43] <tvoss> seb128, ubuntu is quite outdated when compared to debian :/
[08:44] <seb128> tvoss, it means nobody merged that one on debian or synced it
[08:45] <tvoss> seb128, just found a ppa, hold on
[08:47] <tjaalton> it could probably be synced at this point
[08:47] <tjaalton> new upstream pushed to ubuntu last summer
[08:47] <tjaalton> not touched since
[08:49] <geser> tvoss: it got removed in the past (during precise development), see the deletion comment at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltt-control/+publishinghistory (expand the first entry)
[08:50] <tvoss> geser, agreed for the ltt-control package, but seems like lttng-tools suffer the same issue, looking at that right now and testing the lttng ppa
[08:51] <tjaalton> can't it just be synced now? new lttng-tools builds ltt-control
[08:52] <geser> tjaalton: does it work now? and someone has to fix the FTBFS first
[08:52] <tjaalton> ftbfs?
[08:53] <geser> see https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=ltt-control&arch=i386&ver=2.1.1-1&stamp=1362096027
[08:53] <tjaalton> oh, good point :)
[08:54] <tjaalton> didn't know that
[08:54] <geser> tvoss: lttng-tools are build from the ltt-control source package
[08:55] <tvoss> geser, the ppa works, just tested on raring
[08:55] <tjaalton> yeah I got those wrong, was the other way around
[08:58] <mpt> slangasek, update-manager should certainly never update a package without listing it. That would be a bug, not a design flaw.
[09:03] <geser> tvoss: once someone fixes Debian bug #701976 (either directly in Debian or a patched package for sponsoring) and a FF exception is granted (we are past Feature Freeze) then it could get into raring
[09:04] <tvoss> geser, okay, I will look into it ... final missing piece: the lttviewer, cannot see it in the ppa
[09:06] <geser> is it packaged in Debian?
[09:08] <tvoss> geser, not sure, searching
[09:09] <seb128> tvoss, geser: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lttv.html
[09:10] <seb128> it's in raring as well
[09:11] <tvoss> seb128, sure, cannot see it
[09:11] <tvoss> ?
[09:12] <geser> it got removed from the archive for the same reason as ltt-control
[09:12] <seb128> tvoss, oh, sorry, misread that indded
[09:14] <seb128> tvoss, https://launchpad.net/~lttng/+archive/daily has builds for quantal, not sure if they didn't enable it for raring on purpose
[09:25] <mpt> ev, thanks to ant, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error-types> now has cell borders and should be easier to follow
[09:25] <ev> yay
[09:25] <mpt> (apart from Gecko's long-standing problem where cell borders sometimes disappear after scrolling)
[09:28] <mpt> ev, and I guess we need to update all the "(targeted for 13.04)" cells
[09:28] <ev> yes
[09:29] <ev> on it
[09:42] <ev> I think I'll take the reminder that apport is a thing and fix some bugs in it
[10:03] <seb128> hum
[10:03] <seb128> I've a package install "stalled"
[10:03] <seb128> "perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst install" seems blocked in a read (from strace)
[10:15]  * tvoss notices that the eclipse version in the repo is quite outdated
[10:16] <ogra_> there is one in the repo ?
[10:16] <ogra_> i thought we dropped that
[10:32] <geser> tvoss: the eclipse version in raring is the same as in Debian testing/unstable, and the version from experimental (3.8.1-1) is waiting in raring-proposed on someone to fix the build failure on armel and armhf before it can get moved to raring
[10:32] <tvoss> geser, ack and thx
[11:33] <tvoss> has anyone been working the lttng eclipse integration?
[11:45] <shadeslayer> seb128: ping
[11:46] <shadeslayer> seb128: I'm curious as to how empathy spits out the mcp-account-manager-uoa deb, since you uploaded it last, any ideas?
[11:46] <shadeslayer> the control file has no entry for mcp-account-manager-uoa
[12:04] <shadeslayer> my guess is debhelper.mk is doing some magic?
[12:08] <shadeslayer> ahh nvm
[12:08] <shadeslayer> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/empathy/raring/view/head:/debian/control doesn't list the entries for me for some reason
[12:11] <mitya57> shadeslayer: lp:ubuntu/empathy is out of date
[12:11] <geser> shadeslayer: see the top entry in the changelog
[12:11] <geser> shadeslayer: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/empathy.html#2012-09-06%2020:53:54.256127
[12:13] <geser> shadeslayer: use https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/empathy/ubuntu instead
[12:15] <maxb> Would you like me to poke at that import or is it essentially irrelevant since there's a human-maintained branch instead
[12:15] <maxb> ?
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ah
[12:16] <shadeslayer> thanks mitya57 & geser
[12:16] <maxb> UDD has never really found a workable path in the aftermath of source format 3.0
[12:17] <shadeslayer> now I'm curious, should mcp-account-manager-uoa depend on empathy?
[12:18] <shadeslayer> same for all of the other account-plugin-* stuff
[12:20] <shadeslayer> if it's for MC any telepathy client can use it, so why a hard dependency on empathy?
[14:22] <apw> infinity, we are seeing some dpkg issues, and wondering if there is an api change there ie us using it wrong or if it is generally broken
[14:23] <apw> infinity, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/135490864/DpkgTerminalLog.txt
[14:27] <cjwatson> apw: that sort of looks like having lost a file descriptor somewhere.  do you have a way to reproduce it?
[14:27] <cjwatson> I'd suggest sticking set -x in the preinst and running with DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer if so
[14:28] <cjwatson> (set -x'ing preinsts is painful if you can't inject a test .deb, unfortunately)
[14:31] <apw> cjwatson, will have a go indeed
[14:31] <apw> cjwatson, we are seeing a bunch of lp bugs being filed on this
[14:31] <apw> jsalisbury, ^^ can we see if this is reproducible ...
[14:32] <jsalisbury> apw, sure, I'll give it a shot on one of my machines
[14:45] <FourDollars> Hi, could somebody help me to review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-chewing/+bug/1160414? Is there anything I missed?
[14:58] <mitya57> Hi Riddell, you know that qtwebkit-sources 2.3.0 is stuck in -proposed, right?
[14:58] <mitya57> if we can't fix that, maybe it'll be a good idea to force-copy it to -release
[15:00] <cjwatson> doesn't look like it should be horribly difficult to fix?
[15:02] <Riddell> mitya57, cjwatson: needs working out the magic to make it stop trying to compile that javascript engine on powerpc, I'll ask again about it but I'm not wanting to spend much time on powerpc issues
[15:03] <cjwatson> well I can hack on it on Adam's fast powerpc system given a general pointer
[15:03] <mitya57> Is it the same javascript engine that 4 previous uploads were trying to disable?
[15:04] <cjwatson> I mean it only takes 20 minutes to fail on adare (which is ancient)
[15:05] <mitya57> :D
[15:07] <Riddell> mitya57: that's the one
[15:10] <mitya57> Weird. As 2.3-0ubuntu8 doesn't have powerpc packages built, forcibly copying the new version shouldn't break anything, so I think it should be done.
[15:11] <mitya57> ... while we are not frozen
[15:12] <cjwatson> it might not break but I always prefer to try to fix things first
[15:13] <cjwatson> (also, even if it comes to that, archive admins should never forcibly copy to raring but should use britney hints instead)
[15:13] <mitya57> I meant something like that, yes.
[15:14] <cjwatson> and should always use the minimum possible force so that we find out about problems they might not have thought of
[15:15] <infinity> apw: I'm on vacation all week, but I'd suggest getting Colin's input on that bug.
[15:17] <mitya57> FourDollars: looks OK
[15:18] <FourDollars> mitya57: Thank you. I have asked bdmurray in #ubuntu-release to help me to upload the package.
[15:19] <bdmurray> xnox: your openssl upload to precise was superceded by a security upload
[15:19] <xnox> bdmurray: yeah, I know. You can reject both of them for now. I will reupload when I have time to rebase the patch, hopefully sometime this week.
[15:20] <mdeslaur> xnox: sorry about that :(
[15:20] <bdmurray> xnox: okay
[15:20] <xnox> mdeslaur: 13th time lucky maybe ;-)
[15:20] <mdeslaur> hehe :)
[15:21] <bdmurray> xnox: ping me when you have one ready to review
[15:22] <xnox> ack.
[15:46] <Riddell> cjwatson: could you try this on powerpc? http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/qtwebkit-source_2.3.0-0ubuntu2.dsc
[15:52] <infinity> Riddell: Testing.
[15:53] <qengho> Hi hi.  I have a problem.  In raring we want users of (chromium-browser + unity) to automatically have webaccounts-chromium-extension and unity-chromium-extension installed.  But, those packages Depend on lots of things that users of things other than unity do not need, so a Recommends in chromium-browser might pull in a lot of stuff that's unwanted.  What's the best way to get packages installed for unity + chromium-browser users, but not necessarily
[15:53] <qengho>  others?
[15:55] <slangasek> mpt: then we agree ;)
[15:55] <mpt> yep
[15:55] <xnox> qengho: there is no easy way. Are the extensions by them self small? I'd recommend to install the chromium extenstions by default with unity, but they'd do nothing unless people install chromium browser.
[15:56] <xnox> E.g. treat those extenstions to be part of unity =)
[15:57] <infinity> That's probably the only way to achieve what you want, yes.
[15:57] <infinity> Of course, then they'd need to drop the depends on chromium.
[15:57] <qengho> Right.  Move that to Enhances?
[15:57] <infinity> And we'd have to make sure they get registered with chromium regardless of installation order.
[15:58] <qengho> Order doesn't matter, already.
[15:58] <infinity> Kay, then yeah, move the Depends to an Enhances, and then pull them into the desktop seed or something.
[15:59] <infinity> It's an unfortunate bit of cruft on non-chromium desktops, but there's no good way to express the "if foo and bar are installed, I also want baz" relationship.
[16:00] <infinity> Well, there are ways to *express* it (like Enhances), but there are no ways to *enforce* it.
[16:01] <qengho> Maybe a mutual Suggests and Enhances could be as weighty as a Recommends.
[16:02] <infinity> Something tricky like that could work, if you feel the urge to bring it up with debian-devel and policy types.  Certainly not a good quick fix. :P
[16:08] <infinity> Riddell: Fairly sure my test build is already past the point of the last failure.  I'll let it carry on to completion, though.
[16:08] <infinity> cjwatson: ^
[16:09] <qengho> xnox, infinity, thank you for your help.
[16:09] <infinity> Riddell: If it completely successfully, want me to just sign and upload it?
[16:09] <infinity> s/completely/completes/
[16:15] <qengho> unity+chromium-browser talk continues in #ubuntu-desktop.
[16:19] <Riddell> infinity: groovy, go for it
[16:29] <cking> are there any know compiz issues with today's updates?  apw's desktop is hosed
[17:03] <seb128> bdmurray, hey
[17:04] <seb128> bdmurray, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1071922/comments/24
[17:04] <seb128> bdmurray, do you just look for any report make by users running that version?
[17:08] <bdmurray> seb128: for any bug reported by apport with people using that version yes
[17:10] <seb128> bdmurray, ok, makes sense, thanks
[17:11] <seb128> bdmurray, if I marked the other bug as duplicate of an old bug I don't need to tag it stop-nagging, right?
[17:11] <bdmurray> seb128: someday it'll check errors for crashes that first appeared with that specific version of the package too
[17:12] <bdmurray> seb128: I'll double check the logic but you shouldn't need to tag it
[17:12] <seb128> bdmurray, ok, thanks
[17:20] <infinity> Riddell: Your qtwebkit build was happy on my machine; uploaded.
[17:26] <mitya57> Riddell: you fixed it? congrats! \o/
[17:30] <cjwatson> Riddell,infinity: ah, excellent
[18:31] <rahulprasad> How do I create unity lens ?
[18:31] <jpds> rahulprasad: https://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/lenses-and-scopes/
 Thanks
[20:03] <hallyn> infinity: so i have a set of 5 source packages (mirroring the analogous powerpc ones mostly) at https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/crossc/+packages which build a openbios-sparc, with which i can run qemu-system-sparc as sparcstation 10 target, and boot debian images.
[20:03] <hallyn> i assume it's too late in raring cycle to try getting those in?
[20:04] <infinity> hallyn: Being entirely new packages, if they're based on the same sources as the PPC ones, it's probably not a big deal to get them in.
[20:04] <infinity> hallyn: But, it's much harder to justify yet another cross-compiler for an arch we don't even ship.
[20:05] <hallyn> ok - i suppose they can sit in ppa for now, for anyone who really really needs it.
[20:05] <hallyn> when s opens up, who do you think would be the right person to look at them for sanity check and maybe sponsor?
[20:06] <infinity> hallyn: I can have a look at them.  If they're based on the arm{el,hf,64} and powerpc packages, a simple debdiff should show their relative sanity.
[20:07] <hallyn> infinity: cool, thanks.  I'll leave a note to talk to you then
[20:08] <infinity> hallyn: Well, per the above, I don't think it's "too late".  It's more about if we want them at all, now so much when.
[20:09] <hallyn> infinity: oh.  i thought you meant we didn't want to deal with them now for that reason (i.e. priorities)
[20:09] <hallyn> I suppose we could go the squeeky wheel principle and wait to see if bugs are raised about openbios-sparc not existing
[20:10] <infinity> hallyn: I think the only bugs that have ever been filed have been from developers who were annoyed that it couldn't be built, not from users who needed full system sparc emulation on Ubuntu.
[20:10] <infinity> hallyn: I could be wrong, though.
[20:10] <hallyn> uh, beside bug 1125540 of course
[20:11] <infinity> hallyn: Also, lolwut?  Fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/217427 wouldn't fix the openbios-sparc bug. :P
[20:11] <hallyn> infinity: i'm fine waiting to see if there is a lot of demand...
[20:11] <infinity> Oh, you got there later in the bug log. :P
[20:11] <hallyn> infinity: right, it wouldn't :)
[20:11] <hallyn> not without a ... cash injection :)
[20:13] <infinity> hallyn: I think that cash injection would have to be preceded by Oracle spinning off Sun again and letting them get back on their previous path.
[20:13] <infinity> hallyn: In other words: HAHAHAHA.
[20:13] <infinity> (I wouldn't say no to a Fujitsu-sponsored sparc port either, but also seems unlikely)
[20:14]  * hallyn thinks back fondly on his sparcstation 1
[20:14] <bdmurray> @pilot in
[20:21] <bkerensa> is there any reason ubuntu-minimal on Ubuntu Server requires bluetooth?
[20:21] <bkerensa> imho cloud servers should not need bluetooth ;)
[20:22] <bkerensa> cyphermox:  ^
[20:22] <cyphermox> no idea
[20:22] <cyphermox> sorry, I'm busy can you send me an email and I'll look it up?
[20:22] <bkerensa> sure
[20:48] <bdmurray> mdeslaur: can you unsubscribe security sponsors from bug 1155000?
[20:48] <bdmurray> It's already in the Q queue.
[20:50] <mdeslaur> bdmurray: it really should be built as a security update
[20:50] <mdeslaur> bdmurray: is it already in -proposed?
[20:50] <bdmurray> mdeslaur: no its in the unapproved queue for Q
[20:51] <mdeslaur> bdmurray: can you reject it, and we'll do it as a security update?
[20:51] <bdmurray> mdeslaur: sure will do
[20:51] <mdeslaur> bdmurray: thanks
[20:51] <bdmurray> mdeslaur: done
[20:52] <mdeslaur> bdmurray: thanks
[21:02] <xnox> stgraber: I noticed you started implementing image/snapshot generation. Should I start looking into how to adjust current phablet images to use the proposed fs layout semantics?
[21:15] <stgraber> xnox: nah, for now it's just a prototype, once we know it's what we want we'll do the changes
[21:15] <stgraber> xnox: just don't spend too much time writing tools to deal with the old way things were done :)
[21:18] <xnox> stgraber: sure, I was just thinking to push files around on different partitions and see if android will manage to boot/start with at least read/write bindmounts.
[22:27] <bdmurray> mterry: does your update-manager requires-restart branch need a FFE?
[22:29] <mterry> bdmurray, needs a UIF now probably
[22:29] <mterry> bdmurray, it could wait until S
[22:31] <bdmurray> mterry: okay, that probably makes sense then
[23:56] <bdmurray> @pilot out


[11:57] <keesj> sadmac2: are you aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/324890 (nitctl emit --no-wait should not wait)
[12:02] <keesj> ion_: are you a xmoto player?
[12:33] <ion_> keesj: Yes. How so?
[12:44] <keesj> I used to develop xmoto
[12:45] <ion_> Oh, cool.
[12:46] <ion_> How did you figure i play it? :-)
[12:47] <keesj>  /who'ed you and followed the link to the website
[12:48] <keesj> ported xmoto to the maemo platform http://wiki.xmoto.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=SDL_gfx
[12:48] <ion_> Ah. My most recent obsession has been the level Little Hole. 3522 plays and still not finished. :-P
[12:50] <keesj> I can only finish the every easy levels, but it's still fun becasue there are so many new levels every time
[14:36] <ion_> keesj: Morton’s Adventure Part 4 is the coolest xmoto level with the new physics so far. Driving over a platform or rolling a stone to the correct hole cause levers to trigger changes that allow you to finish the level. One could take the concept further and create nice puzzles.
[14:42] <keesj> going to try it later today, thanks for the tip
[15:44] <sadmac2> keesj: yeah, I know about that one. nih_dbus couldn't do that at the time I wrote initctl.
[15:45] <sadmac2> Keybuk: the other day you said you brought me snow, and then last night it snowed
[15:47] <Keybuk> awesome
[15:48] <sadmac2> Keybuk: oh, and some time tonight I should be able to complete all of the async test cases
[15:49] <Keybuk> sweet


[00:57] <guiverc> Wow; you've been busy @Leokolb, thank you !
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