[08:02] <wgrant> cjwatson: Replied to your bugsummary triggers MP, finally. I think my revised version is cleaner, but interested to hear your thoughts.
[08:02] <wgrant> https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/373765
[08:03] <wgrant> Would be a bit nicer were it not for the lack of anonymous composite types, and an apparent inability to do a FOR loop with a list of scalars despite the error message saying that it is possible.
[10:17] <cjwatson> wgrant: Thanks, will look with interest once I've sorted out staging
[10:37] <tomwardill> fixed a test! Broke 6 others.
[10:38] <SpecialK|Canon> hurrah!
[10:40] <ilasc> tomwardill: welcome to the club :)
[10:45] <ilasc> SpecialK|Canon, tomwardill, pappacena, cjwatson: will be away for about 1 hour over lunch today (doctor app. I couldn't reschedule), I've let Tony know I won't make his meeting today
[10:45] <tomwardill> oh, I forgot about the retro!
[10:46] <ilasc> :) I will definitely make Standup
[10:46] <SpecialK|Canon> We talked in London about if we still wanted to attend those or do our own
[10:46] <SpecialK|Canon> I forget what we concluded and didn't take a note...
[10:46] <ilasc> SpecialK|Canon I think we concluded to split them
[10:48] <tomwardill> that's my memory too
[10:50] <SpecialK|Canon> In which case I wouldn't be expecting you to attend "the store retro" today at all ;)
[10:50] <tomwardill> excellent!
[10:50] <SpecialK|Canon> I would be expecting me to schedule an LP retro though!
[10:51]  * tomwardill claims that's what I originally intended
[10:51] <SpecialK|Canon> I'll do that after the Store one
[10:51] <SpecialK|Canon> all part of the grand plan, honest...
[10:52] <cjwatson> retro> ack
[10:53] <SpecialK|Canon> you might say that's...
[10:53] <SpecialK|Canon> retro...ack..tive
[10:53] <tomwardill> you might
[10:53] <SpecialK|Canon> sorrynotsorry
[10:53] <tomwardill> but you wouldn't
[10:53] <tomwardill> because it's a terrible pun and you would be ashamed
[10:53] <SpecialK|Canon> you're half right
[10:56] <cjwatson> don't make me start relaying all the terrible astronomy institute whiteboard jokes here
[10:56] <cjwatson> how do you hire a horse?
[10:56] <cjwatson> put it on four bricks
[10:57] <SpecialK|Canon> you say terrible
[10:57] <SpecialK|Canon> I'm totally here for this
[11:00] <cjwatson> (the whiteboard is headed "putting the LOL in cosmlology since 2017" or some such)
[11:01] <SpecialK|Canon> amazing
[11:08] <SpecialK|Canon> it would be a kindness if y'all would respond appropriately to Tony's calendar invite if you're not attending ;)
[11:08]  * tomwardill does the thing
[11:11] <cjwatson> done
[11:23] <tomwardill> cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/376132 is updated (I think) for the latest DB patch changes, if you have a moment to look over it again
[11:23] <tomwardill> https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/377768 is my getopts rocketfuel patch from London if anyone has a mo to look at that too
[11:28] <cjwatson> reviewed the second, will look at the first today
[11:28] <tomwardill> ta
[11:29] <cjwatson> tomwardill: did you forget to push the first?  I don't see your changes
[11:30] <tomwardill> errr,I might've done a silly with branches
[11:30] <tomwardill> sec
[11:32] <tomwardill> cjwatson: done, had forgotten I was on a different branch and pushed the original
[11:51] <cjwatson> tomwardill: Could you look over https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/378716 ?  I think it should actually fix (qa)staging this time
[11:53] <cjwatson> pappacena: Do you think you could look into removing auditor and friends from LP at some point, since we have the new approach in place now?
[11:54] <cjwatson> Should get Django out of our virtualenv, I think ...
[12:02] <pappacena> Sure... I just need to understand what auditor and friends are...
[12:14] <cjwatson> That's the old unfinished microservice approach to the queue audit trail problem, which you've done with an extra DB table instead
[12:14] <cjwatson> Was never finished enough to be enabled on production AFAIK
[12:14] <pappacena> ahhh, now I remember.
[12:14] <pappacena> Sure, I'll work on it as soon as I'm done with this signing thing integration, probably early next week
[12:15] <cjwatson> Cool, no rush, thanks
[12:16] <cjwatson> Hm, it did actually get deployed to staging, see https://portal.admin.canonical.com/C55785
[12:16] <cjwatson> So I guess we should clean stuff up there
[12:17] <cjwatson> I can help if needed but it might be a good exercise in chasing things down with IS :)
[12:18] <pappacena> Sure! It will be good to better know people/processes/machines involved in this part
[12:35] <cjwatson> Anyone else able to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/378716 ?  I'd like to get this in ASAP since stuff is broken right now
[12:35] <pappacena> On it
[12:35] <cjwatson> Thanks
[12:41] <pappacena> Approved
[12:44] <tomwardill> sorry, was out getting a samwich
[12:50] <cjwatson> pappacena: thanks
[12:55] <pappacena> 👍
[14:47] <tomwardill> cjwatson: I can't find/create/write an early exit in the case of errors in the getopts line
[15:40] <cjwatson> tomwardill: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xpM3DTv3zB/
[15:40] <tomwardill> ah, neat!
[16:00] <tomwardill> taht's that branch fixed up, seems to still work
[16:00] <tomwardill> going to land
[16:00] <tomwardill> in fact, I'l lwait till Monday morning :)
[20:22] <wgrant> cjwatson: ah, can you fix my todo type names too? I was hoping to make them anonymous, but failed
[20:32] <cjwatson> wgrant: Do you think I just need to try harder to make them anonymous, or that I should find better names?
[20:39] <cjwatson> I assumed you'd meant "todo" as in "rows to process" rather than as in "need to fix this name"
[20:46] <wgrant> cjwatson: I don't think it's possible to make them anonymous, unfortunately.
[20:47] <wgrant> Nah, they should probably have bugsummary_temp_* names or something like that
[21:04] <cjwatson> OK, will fix, possibly on Monday


[09:15] <rmg51> Morning
[10:06] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[12:16] <KyleYankan> mmm, Turkey season is coming up.
[12:19] <teddy-dbear> indeed it is :-D
[13:24] <InHisName> Is it time to start shooting your seasons for you turkey ?
[13:24] <InHisName> s/you/your/
[13:25] <KyleYankan> Almost. Nov 2, if I recall
[13:25] <KyleYankan> Usually they do a week in begnining of november, and a few days/week at the end of november
[13:26] <KyleYankan> but it varies by WMU. I'm only familiar with my hunting grounds
[15:29] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: eyes doing better?
[15:29] <jedijf> hmm,
[15:30]  * jedijf screams ChinnoDog, eyes doing better?
[15:30] <ChinnoDog> lol
[15:30] <ChinnoDog> Yes, I can see again.
[15:31] <ChinnoDog> The angel of migraines has departed.
[15:31] <jedijf> cool
[15:31] <ChinnoDog> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fran39/8119461023/lightbox/
[15:32] <jedijf> i was almost gonna post, go to the emergency room
[15:32] <ChinnoDog> Nah. It has happened before.
[15:32] <ChinnoDog> This was the second time.
[15:36] <jedijf> get this, http://statigr.am/p/340740931385814663_193113066
[15:36] <jedijf> my wife bought it for our daughter (don't think daughter ever wore it)
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> lol
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> What is that supposed to do?
[16:00] <jedijf> no idea...she just buys /everything/
[16:01] <jedijf> it has a new purpose - makes for funny instagram photos
[16:33] <ChinnoDog> Reminds me of the helmet Natalie Portman wears in Garden State
[16:33] <ChinnoDog> ...except that a helmet for seizures seems more plausible.
[16:34] <ChinnoDog> If you suddenly lose consciousness from a migraine I think you need to go to a doctor.
[16:34] <jedijf> i think there's some massage/cold..something going on - it's soft, like fleece and plugged in
[16:34] <ChinnoDog> Plugged in? lol
[16:35] <jedijf> or battery...but definitely powered somehow
[16:35] <ChinnoDog> I think I'll stick with ibuprofen and turning the lights off.


[12:54] <andrejz> hello dpm! you around?
[12:54] <dpm> hi andrejz, yes
[12:58] <andrejz> i noticed no langpacks have been built for raring. Is it possible we can enable them and start automatic weekly builds?
[13:05] <dpm> andrejz, yes, it's been largely because I've had no time to work on translations this cycle. I was intending to do it last week, but with UDS going on, I didn't have the chance. I'll try to get it set up today and announce it on the ML
[13:05] <andrejz> thanks dpm
[13:05] <andrejz> this makes testing translations much easier
[13:08] <dpm> I know, I've been meaning to set it up for a few months now, sorry :/
[13:08] <andrejz> no problem


[07:31] <stickupkid> FYI: i'm updating jenkins :p
[09:26] <jam> stickupkid: our recent merge commits have started mixing line endings (\r\n vs \n). so if you do 'git log --first-parent' you'll see a bunch of \r for the description parts.
[09:26] <jam> stickupkid: is that from the plugin change? or did we break something else?
[15:54] <danboid> The juju api uses port 37017 (via IP4) to communicate to its controllers right?
[15:54] <danboid> It seems 17070 (as stated in the docs) is IP6 only
[15:55] <danboid> My juju controller is only listening on 37017 for IP4
[15:57] <danboid> Should my juju controller be listening on port 17070 for IP4?
[15:58] <danboid> If so, how do I make it?
[16:07] <danboid> I expect I need to tell the juju controller to only use IPv4 do I? How do I do that?
[16:10] <danboid> Ah! Seems 37017 is just for mongo
[16:21] <danboid> I've tried disabling IPv6 in LXD but thats only had the effect of preventing the juu controller starting anything on 17070. Now I only see mongodb ports on my controller
[16:33] <babbageclunk> danboid: sorry, everyone in the juju team is at a team meetup at the moment so we haven't been watching the channel. If your controller isn't listening on 17070 then it sounds like it's not getting to the point of the API server starting up. If you look in the logfile /var/log/juju/machine-0.log, do you see any errors about api-server?
[16:35] <danboid> babbageclunk, Will do if it happens again. I ended up deleting the controller container and creating a new one but running juju bootsrap has paused at `Waiting for address`
[16:36] <danboid> Its been waiting for address for a few minutes now
[16:36] <danboid> Not a good sign I'd imagine
[16:37] <danboid> I have disabled IPv6 in LXD now
[16:37] <danboid> lxc network set lxdbr0 ipv6.address none
[16:37] <babbageclunk> danboid: if you run `lxc list` can you see the container running?
[16:38] <babbageclunk> (and an IP address?)
[16:38] <danboid> yes
[16:38] <danboid> There is a new container but it has no IP
[16:39] <babbageclunk> ah, ok - it sounds like that'll be the problem
[16:39] <danboid> Stop a delete it?
[16:39] <danboid> *and
[16:40] <babbageclunk> if you launch a lxd container with `lxc launch ubuntu:` does it start ok and get an address?
[16:41] <danboid> It created fine...
[16:41] <babbageclunk> hmm
[16:42] <danboid> no address tho
[16:42] <danboid> The host machine is using IP4
[16:42] <danboid> I created lxdbr0 with lxc init
[16:43] <danboid> Creating juu controllers was working before I disabled IPv6. Maye I should re-enable it
[16:43] <danboid> re-enable it in lxd that is
[16:44] <babbageclunk> I think juju requires it to be turned off - but I don't remember specifically how it should be configured
[16:46] <danboid> This is where I got the idea from https://github.com/juju/docs/issues/2965
[16:51] <babbageclunk> danboid: I think that's right - it's the same error juju will report if it detects ipv6 turned on on lxd
[16:52] <danboid> I don't remember seeing any such error
[16:56] <babbageclunk> It looks like we configure the bridge to turn ipv6 off if we create it (because we run lxd init ourselves)
[17:00] <babbageclunk> danboid: can you run `lxc network show lxdbr0` for me?
[17:01] <danboid> babbageclunk, It was like this:
[17:01] <danboid> babbageclunk, https://gist.github.com/danboid/6ce3fd2b0f298fc76630985c8d25d6fd
[17:02] <danboid> I have since deleted that container and its rebooting
[17:02] <danboid> What I thought I'd try is
[17:02] <danboid> lxc network set lxdbr0 ipv6.nat false
[17:03] <danboid> but it wasn't letting me, hence the reboot :)
[17:03] <babbageclunk> danboid: just looked at my config - I have ipv6.nat set to true
[17:04] <danboid> but ip6 addressing disabled? Seems a bit odd
[17:04] <babbageclunk> that's the only difference I see from your config
[17:04] <babbageclunk> yeah, I wouldn't expect it has any effect
[17:06] <babbageclunk> danboid: sorry, this isn't an area I know much about - I'm tempted to suggest uninstalling and reinstalling lxd.
[17:08] <babbageclunk> danboid: I have to go now unfortunately - sorry to leave you in the lurch!
[17:12] <danboid> babbageclunk, OK, thanks for your help!
[18:01] <danboid> Fixed it!
[18:01] <danboid> I had to add a grub kernel boot parameter on the lxd host machine to disable ipv6
[18:01] <danboid> ipv6.disable=1
[18:02] <danboid> update grub, reboot... tada!
[18:13] <danboid> How long is juju destro-controller supposed to take?
[18:13] <danboid> I'm trying to destroy some controllers that were never used
[18:14] <danboid> I deleted their conrainers first tho, maybe thats the problem?
[18:15] <danboid> I presume it would delete their containers if I'd nor already done that
[18:16] <danboid> I don't think its working
[18:17] <danboid> `juju controllers --refresh` doesn't seem to work either
[19:11] <rick_h> dannf:  yea, if the containers are already gone just use "juju unregister"
[19:11] <rick_h> sorry danboid ^
[19:11] <rick_h> who's gone...


[05:09] <ProfessorKaos64> If anyone is going to linux northeast in march, let me know
[09:23] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:22] <rmg51> Morning
[10:23] <JonathanD> hi rmg51
[10:35] <rmg51> o/
[11:42] <pvl1> morning
[11:42] <pvl1> ProfessorKaos64 where is it at
[11:42] <ProfessorKaos64> http://northeastlinuxfest.org/
[11:42] <ProfessorKaos64> I think up in Mass.?
[11:43] <ProfessorKaos64> Yep Boston
[11:43] <ProfessorKaos64> http://datacharmer.blogspot.com/2013/03/north-east-linux-fest-and-open-database.html
[11:43] <ProfessorKaos64> Im just keepin a close eye on it
[12:56] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else


[01:23] <jbicha> bummer, Unity from the staging PPA is pretty broken
[10:05] <Mirv> and PPA:s being updated again (https://launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/+archive/uantal-compiz-unity-testing2)
[10:05] <Mirv> jbicha: staging is currently not useful because of the rush going, current tested stuff can be found in the above PPA and its friend mentioned in the description
[10:06] <Mirv> first of all there was lp:unity where the work was done instead of lp:unity/6.0 that staging tracks, and then merges were disabled to speed up pushing, and finally lp:unity was pushed to lp:unity/6.0. staging will start to update normally again after today's rush
[11:02] <Mirv> PPA updated with latest unity build
[13:55] <jokerdino> hey devs, is the trash supposed to be labelled rubbish bin or trash?
[13:55] <jokerdino> the launcher tooltip says rubbish bin while the overlay is trash
[13:56] <Zhenech> its rubbish on en_GB and trash on en_US on other systems
[13:56] <Zhenech> if that helps
[13:56] <jokerdino> ah, why am i on en_GB :|
[13:56] <jokerdino> thanks Zhenech
[13:56] <jokerdino> will be right bacl
[14:02] <Zhenech> jokerdino, it should be consistent, though
[14:03] <jokerdino> apparently, i had en_AU instead of en_US.
[14:03] <jokerdino> i switched it. will check back later
[14:03] <jokerdino> will be back after a longer break now. thanks again
[14:53] <jokerdino> Zhenech: thanks. it is now consistent.
[16:44] <bobweaver> Hello there I can not get unity to build at all. I mean I can not even get past cmake ,  There are held dependencys that I can not take care of. How did you all build the unity 6.6 ? from the stagging-future ppa ?
[16:44] <bobweaver> Like when I run sudo apt-get build-deps unity      that is where the errors start
[16:46] <bobweaver> error with bamf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217088/
[17:35] <bobweaver> what is *na* in std::unique_ptr<na::AnimationController> animation_controller_;
[17:35] <bobweaver> what is that lib ?
[17:54] <Mirv> bobweaver: staging-future only has compiz/nux/unity, so you need to have staging enabled as well
[17:54] <bobweaver> sweet thanks Mirv  I was able to get it
[17:54] <bobweaver> it was bamf
[17:55] <bobweaver> had to make sure that it was comming from the correct place
[17:55] <bobweaver> IE
[17:55] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install {libbamf3-0,bamfdaemon}=0.3.0-0ubuntu2
[17:56] <bobweaver> then sudo apt-get build-dep unity     ran great
[17:56] <bobweaver> I am building it as we talk
[18:26] <bobweaver> what is GVFS and why is it Remote Monitor my system ?
[19:50] <bobweaver> Is there anything else that i am missing to install a altered unity ?  cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/usr
[19:50] <bobweaver> thanks
[23:39] <bschaefer> hello, so who would I bug to get bamf and libunity-webapps rebuilt in unity-team/staging?
[23:39] <bschaefer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libunity-webapps/+bug/1053688
[23:39] <bschaefer> causes bamfdaemon to die, which causes a bunch of problems in unity


[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:36] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: mornin'
[10:42] <valorie> Riddell: I love the "impecunious" part
[10:42] <valorie> also the rest of it
[10:42] <valorie> :-)
[12:53] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[14:23] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ping
[15:18] <bukai> Riddell: Hi
[15:25] <soee> bukai: hi, sorry i was out most of teh day yesterday
[15:26] <bukai> soee: Hi,No problem ovidiu-florin helped me out yesterday
[15:27] <bukai> soee: the site you were developing, it's completed?
[15:31] <soee> bukai: no, i already told Riddell that i plan to release in april - the same day when Vivid will be released so i can get all media up to date
[15:33] <bukai> soee: ok , :)
[15:34] <soee> also my friend works on the design atm. so ill have to wait till its finish to go further
[15:34] <soee> i have basic structure ready atm. http://kubuntu.dev.soee.pl/
[15:35] <soee> so this are pages i plan to have
[16:02] <bukai> soee: do you plan to keep it just plain?
[16:03] <soee> plain ?
[16:05] <bukai> soee: I mean will it look like this when it's completed?
[16:06] <soee> nooo :)
[16:09] <bukai> it will be a single page application right?
[16:09] <soee> not exactly
[16:10] <soee> each page on this website has caontent split into 2 sections: main and extended
[16:10] <soee> in page properties you can mark checkbox to show its main content on frontpage
[16:10] <soee> so onyl then it showsup on home
[16:12] <bukai> soee: WOW that sound too good :)
[16:32] <Quintasan> New NetworkManager.
[16:33] <Quintasan> And I still can't have WiFi networks priority
[16:33] <Quintasan> Welcome to 2015.
[16:33] <Quintasan> soee_: Really nice. I like Riddell as Sean Connery :D
[16:34] <soee_> Quintasan: :D
[16:34] <soee_> @NM in plasma5 if i disable WiFi kdeinit5 crashed or something :)
[16:35] <soee_> same sometimes iv my connection is lost
[16:35] <bukai_> soee_: If I did not keep the first page on index.php rather created a page how do I chow the image associated with the post in thumbnail form in the latest post section ?
[16:36] <Quintasan> tazz: I can't respond to your steam trade offer for reasons unknown to me.
[16:37] <soee_> bukai_: im not sure wht you want to do:) also im not an expert when it comes to wordpress
[16:37] <tazz> o.o
[16:38] <Quintasan> >php
[16:38] <Quintasan> Good luck.
[16:39] <Quintasan> tazz: Well, I tried accepting or rejecting it but "Can't proccess your request"
[16:39] <tazz> oh well
[16:41] <kranzer> Riddell: hello are you here?
[16:41] <Quintasan> Alpha 1 testing time I guess.
[16:43] <Quintasan> kranzer: You might want to ask him the question and stick around since it's almost Xmass everywhere.
[16:44] <kranzer> Quintasan: he's out for 4 last days
[16:44] <soee> Alpha works fine :)
[16:44] <Quintasan> kranzer: Well, people tend to get busy during this period. What is the problem, maybe someone else can help.
[16:45] <bukai_> kranzer:  Are you sure ?
[16:45] <kranzer> bukai_: not for 100%, but when I'm here he's out
[16:47] <soee> nah its christmas :) he was here yesterday
[16:48] <kranzer> I understand him)
[17:14] <kranzer> #marble
[18:32] <Sergobot> Riddell: could you review my task?
[18:58] <Riddell> hi Sergobot
[18:58] <Sergobot> Riddell: hello :)
[18:59] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hi! AFAIK packages from this task: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5822613091778560 are already updated for kubuntu vivid.
[19:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  about-distro: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/about-distro (latest update: 22 Dec 2014)
[19:01] <EgorMatirov> and debconf-kde https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf-kde/1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (22 Dec 2014 too)
[19:04] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: hmm yes I guess sitter did it
[19:04] <Riddell> sorry about that
[19:04] <Riddell> Sergobot: you added in the developer files that didn't need added (those listed in debian/not-installed)
[19:04] <Riddell> Sergobot: are you able to remove those again or have you had enough of it?
[19:05] <Sergobot> Riddell: What files should I remove?
[19:05] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: no problems for me. Just wanted to notify you. :)
[19:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: anything in /usr/include
[19:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: anything in /usr/lib/libfoo.so
[19:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: anything else listed in debian/not-installed
[19:17] <Sergobot> Riddell: should I add these files to calligra-dbg.install?
[19:23] <Riddell> Sergobot: no just don't install them
[19:23] <Riddell> they're pointless, nothing uses them
[19:24] <Sergobot> Riddell: so, I removed all /usr/include/ form all files, that I've modified. Is the task finished?
[19:28] <Riddell> Sergobot: yep, good enough, I'll take a closer look and upload it when I get a minute
[19:29] <Riddell> Sergobot: closed! thanks for your help with kubuntu
[19:30] <Sergobot> Riddell: But I didn't yet updated .dsc and .debian files at google-melange.com
[19:30] <Sergobot> Riddell: Thanks!
[19:40] <Riddell> Sergobot: I'll get them off the server
[19:41] <Sergobot> Riddell: Okay
[20:25] <soee> Riddell: the last blog post "We also released a new version of KDE Frameworks 5.5.0. KDE Applications 14.12 are arriving in Vivid Vermet, with backports, as soon as we can."
[20:25] <soee> Vermed ? :)
[20:26] <kranzer> #kde-bugs
[20:35] <Riddell> soee: I always confuse that for some reason, thanks


[09:44] <baconbits> hi i have a question about a kernel driver fix avilability in a netboot image
[09:44] <baconbits> is this the right place for this type of question ?
[17:23] <user_> hmm, why cant i find linux source 2.6.24 on ubuntu launchpad package search? does it exist?
[17:30] <JanC> user_: search for linux...
[17:36] <user_> JanC: i can find linux-source for 2.6.22, but not for .24. still thats what is running, if you have updates installed.
[17:36] <user_> i firefox-strg-f in all pages for 24. nothing.


[02:52] <n-iCe> hi
[14:52] <sdfsdf> can I plug in an android phone through usb and get data inside /com folders without root on the phone?
[16:55] <marvin42>  hi. I've ran do-release-upgrade -d in Lubuntu 16.10 and it outputs: No new release found. I've sought help on articles and did as they said, to no avial. Can someone help me out?
[17:59] <LioneLL> marvin42:  in update settings u should have put 'every new upgrade' ...
[23:38] <Linuxuser2> What burn software to use to burn Lubuntu 14.04 download on a non PAE laptop?
[23:39] <Linuxuser2> I am using Linux Mint 18.1 currently


[22:12] <mfisch> smoser: would it be possible to pass-in a TENANT_ID (with some changes to cloud-init)?
[22:13] <harlowja> mfisch what type of cloud are u using, if the cloud doesn't provide the tenant-id in a accessible way to cloud-init, then makes it impossible for cloud-init to know about it
[22:14] <mfisch> openstack nova
[22:14] <mfisch> and I'm not sure it is being provided
[22:14] <mfisch> if it is, I'd like to help enable it, it will let me do some better tagging with landscape
[22:14] <harlowja> i don't think it is :-/
[22:14] <mfisch> I was hoping I could do tagging in landscape by tenant
[22:15] <mfisch> makes it easier for me to separate stuff
[22:15] <harlowja> agreed
[22:15] <mfisch> well if not, I'll just work on getting landscpae registration functional at all
[22:15] <mfisch> right now it's choking
[22:15] <harlowja> i know i've made a patch that does provide it, but i haven't upstreamed it yet
[22:15] <mfisch> harlowja: I found smoser's sample config, you're saying that wont work?
[22:16] <harlowja> mfisch so that would probably be via user-data, which would work
[22:16] <harlowja> the other nicer way is to just have openstack write it (since it obviously knows the userid/tenantid)
[22:17] <harlowja> mfisch http://paste.openstack.org/show/63128/
[22:17] <harlowja> its nothing complicated
[22:17] <harlowja> i should just upstream that sometime
[22:18] <harlowja> then it shows up in metadata (accessible then via everywhere in cloud-init)
[22:19] <harlowja> maybe someone has already even upstreamed that, i haven't checked
[22:19] <mfisch> looking now
[22:19] <mfisch> thats easier to fix than cloud-init in 12.04 actually
[22:19] <harlowja> yup
[22:19] <harlowja> cloud-init already reads the metadata and exposes it as a dict, these are just 2 new keys
[22:20] <harlowja> *and harmless keys (so i wouldn't expect anyone to complain about it upstream)
[22:20] <mfisch> is instance_id passed in there
[22:20] <mfisch> probably this guy
[22:20] <mfisch> instance_metadata.InstanceMetadata(instance,
[22:20] <harlowja> ya, thats there
[22:20] <harlowja> metadata has 'instance-id' key afaik
[22:20] <harlowja> or uuid
[22:20] <harlowja> one of those
[22:20] <mfisch> makes sense
[22:21] <mfisch> you push it up, I'll +1 it
[22:21] <harlowja> :)
[22:21] <harlowja> k, let me see
[22:21] <mfisch> I have a good use case for it
[22:22] <mfisch> harlowja: if you do it, ping me
[22:22] <harlowja> k
[22:22] <mfisch> now back to getting base landscape working
[22:22] <harlowja> in progress, sh9ouldn't be long
[22:22] <harlowja> just gotta figure out where that code moved to, lol
[22:22] <mfisch> line 2512
[22:23] <mfisch> one more dumb question, it looks like the INSTANCE_ID is lost for "runcmd", its only there for bootcmd
[22:23] <harlowja> hmm
[22:23] <mfisch> so I guess I'll dump it to a file there and pull it back out?
[22:23] <harlowja> mfisch are u using config-drive or ec2 datasource in cloudinit?
[22:23] <harlowja> that will actually change what metadata is avail afaik
[22:23] <mfisch> so this is a dumb answer but I don't know
[22:23] <harlowja> k
[22:23] <mfisch> just starting playing with this a few hours ago
[22:24] <mfisch> I believe the logs say ec2
[22:24] <harlowja> ah, then this patch might not help
[22:24] <mfisch> found data source: DataSourceEc2
[22:24] <mfisch> what decides the datasource?
[22:24] <mfisch> this is on a RHEL system, not what I'm deploying on
[22:24] <harlowja> cloud-init, but openstack has a config which actually decides it
[22:24] <mfisch> if that matters
[22:24] <mfisch> oh I can hack that
[22:24] <harlowja> cloud-init will serach for one
[22:25] <harlowja> let me check, the code paths are 2 different paths for the different pieces in openstack
[22:26] <harlowja> ya, let me see, i think it might work
[22:26] <med_> hey smoser.
[22:26]  * med_ was asked to join
[22:27] <mfisch> med_: I'm talking with harlowja actually
[22:27]  * med_ sees harlowja but no utlemming
[22:27] <med_> xlnt
[22:27] <mfisch> med_: our poc is using ec2 datasource, what implications will that have for something like the landscape config working?
[22:28] <med_> Hmmm. I think I've mentioned this at one point or another, I don't know jack about landscape.
[22:28] <med_> lame excuse but haven't had time to dig into it.
[22:28] <med_> Not sure why it would matter for cloud-init-y stuff.
[22:28] <mfisch> we're also discussing the other question of how to add a TENANT_ID into the data passed from nova, harlowja has a patch for nova
[22:30] <med_> cool beans
[22:44] <harlowja> mfisch  https://review.openstack.org/72018
[22:45] <harlowja> feel free to add comment with your use-case, incase the nova reviewrs say this is dumb
[22:45] <harlowja> it does appear that without altering the ec2 format though i can't add this change into that part of the code :(
[22:45] <harlowja> so its either https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/ds-openstack needs to merge or u might have to switch to using the config-drive option
[22:45] <harlowja> http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/config-drive.html
[22:46] <harlowja> lets see how much the nova people complain :-p
[22:48] <mfisch> harlowja: looking
[22:52] <mfisch> harlowja: and I assume that cloud-init can parse from the config-drive in lieu of ec2
[22:52] <harlowja> mfisch ya
[22:53] <harlowja> https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/ds-openstack  will use the more native openstack metadata endpoint
[22:53] <harlowja> *unifying that code in cloud-init (since its the same data exposed via the metadata rest endpoint and the config drive)
[22:53] <mfisch> that may not help us until 14.04 I'd imagine
[22:53] <harlowja> correct
[22:54] <harlowja> cfgdrive though does work
[22:54] <harlowja> and should be in most modernish versions of cloud-init
[22:54]  * harlowja not sure when ubuntu started shipping the version that had it
[22:54] <mfisch> I can look
[22:54] <harlowja> *canonical, not ubuntu
[22:54] <harlowja> that company, haha
[22:55] <mfisch> I suspect that I'll be happy to get partially there and then happier when 14.04 comes out
[22:55] <harlowja> sure
[22:56] <med_> config drive just works
[22:56] <mfisch> med_: is it default enabled on ubuntu?
[22:57] <med_> We've also got to to worry about cloudbase-init (for Win images)
[22:57] <med_> 'default enabled on ubuntu' ? For config drive? It's an openstack thing
[22:57] <med_> not sure what you mean by default enabled.
[22:57] <med_> or do you mean does cloud-init grok config drive? Yes, it does.
[22:58] <mfisch> force_config_drive=True
[22:58] <mfisch> looks like we have it enabled
[22:59] <harlowja> ah, cool
[22:59] <harlowja> u should be able to check inside a vm
[22:59] <harlowja> blkid
[22:59] <harlowja> will tell u
[22:59] <harlowja> something like 'LABEL="config-2" UUID="5B88-2F2F" TYPE="vfat" '
[22:59] <mfisch> right
[22:59] <mfisch> that system with it enabled is not fully working atm, I think I may have another one though
[23:00] <med_> config drive has been in precise since at least Feb 2012
[23:00] <harlowja> k
[23:00] <harlowja> ya, i forget when it appeared
[23:00] <harlowja> smoser might remember
[23:00] <med_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/857378
[23:01] <med_> to make OVF work with cloud-init
[23:01] <harlowja> k, so should be fine i think


[01:13] <cprofitt> mhall119: playing with the django tutorial... impressed so far
[01:42] <cprofitt> hey slick666
[01:42] <slick666> hey cprofitt
[01:43] <slick666> how are things in NY?
[01:44] <cprofitt> they are pretty good
[01:44] <cprofitt> I just set up a server in my basemet (old desktop) and installed django on it
[01:44] <cprofitt> going through the tutorial
[01:44] <cprofitt> at work I setup a security onion server on 12.04
[01:45] <cprofitt> playing with that a bit oo
[01:45] <cprofitt> too
[01:45] <cprofitt> and currently using a screen session with both laptops attached
[01:45] <cprofitt> so I can fliip between them
[01:46] <cprofitt> how are you?
[01:46] <nigelb> Hey cprofitt :)
[01:46] <slick666> sounds cool
[01:46] <slick666> Things are good
[01:47] <slick666> working at a python shop so I'm making the shift from being most knowledgable person to not
[01:47] <cprofitt> yeah... the server in the basement is via wireless, but I can use wakeonlan
[01:47] <slick666> but feel like I'm fitting in well
[01:47] <cprofitt> slick666: you changed jobs again?
[01:47] <slick666> yea
[01:48] <slick666> I work for www.propylon.com
[01:48] <slick666> Moved from mid-level Software Engineer to Senior engineer
[01:48] <cprofitt> nice... I am still looking for a change, but have yet to find one that can compete
[01:48] <cprofitt> I have had 'title' offers like Senior System Architecht, but the money has not been attractive
[01:49] <cprofitt> a few place have had the right environment, but the total compensation package not so much
[01:49] <slick666> yea
[01:49] <slick666> you have yourself a sweet spot
[01:50] <slick666> but I'm sure if you stay open you'll find some outfit that will pick you up
[01:50] <slick666> you're just a little too active of a thinker to fit into a government job forever
[01:50] <cprofitt> I can hope... trying to get in to being a director of tech for a school district... that would be ideal
[01:51] <slick666> that would be sweet
[01:51] <cprofitt> stay in the retirement system... and more money
[01:51] <cprofitt> but the downer would be the move away from technical
[01:51] <cprofitt> yeah... I would like to get a nice job for the 'brain'
[01:51] <slick666> BTW whats a security Onion server?
[01:51] <cprofitt> but currently with three kids I need the money more than goodness for 'my brain'
[01:52] <cprofitt> http://securityonion.blogspot.com/
[01:52] <slick666> lol
[01:52]  * slick666 was already there
[01:52] <slick666> cool
[01:52] <cprofitt> bascially it is a collection of security tools that Doug has put together on top of Ubuntu
[01:52] <slick666> nice
[01:53] <slick666> I might have to put that on my todo list
[01:53] <cprofitt> having a VMWare environment with a trunk port allows me to listen to ALL traffic on my network
[01:53] <cprofitt> at home you might need to build a tap of some sort to use it
[01:53] <slick666> I have an old hub that I usually use
[01:53] <slick666> it's not undetectable but it works for testing
[01:54] <cprofitt> yes, but it will only work if all devices are on the hub
[01:54] <cprofitt> ofcorse if you have a cisco switch you can create a trunk port
[01:55] <slick666> yea
[01:55] <slick666> I had a nice 3750
[01:55] <cprofitt> I have an old cisco switch at home so might have to break out my rs-232 adapater and reprogram it
[01:55] <slick666> but I decided I wanted a home theater
[01:55] <slick666> I like Cisco products
[01:55] <cprofitt> I have a 3550
[01:55] <slick666> cool
[01:55] <slick666> that should support your house pretty good
[01:56] <cprofitt> or 3530... forget which
[01:57] <cprofitt> propylon has some openings I could fit in... but my wife will not move to Kansas
[01:57] <cprofitt> nore Ireland
[02:15] <slick666> well
[02:15] <slick666> we have people down in PA
[02:15] <slick666> in Ohio
[02:15] <slick666> Indiana is just starting up
[02:15] <slick666> and I think we have some in Vermont?
[02:15] <slick666> or something like that
[02:54] <cprofitt> yeah... wife will not leave Rochester
[03:00] <cprofitt> lesson #1 - always run python manage.py syncdb
[03:00] <cprofitt> after making a change.
[03:00] <cprofitt> that involves adding or enabling an app...