[14:33] <shampoo> you should use radeon free drivers
[14:34] <bitmonster> where can i download them?
[14:34] <tzanger> I've downloaded the source to the flash9 package, and edited it so it does nto check the md5sums... how do I now create a new deb from this "source" dir and install it?
[14:39] <shampoo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%28radeon%29 try this bitmonster
[14:39] <steff> No deb needed I guess: open a terminal window in the folder and type  ./flashplayer-installer
[14:41] <bitmonster> cool thanks shampoo
[14:42] <shampoo> gl ;)
[14:43] <bitmonster> would you recommend ati or fglrx then?
[14:43] <ForgeAus> fglrx mostly
[14:44] <ForgeAus> I think
[14:44] <shampoo> mmh
[14:44] <shampoo> doenst upport the mobility thing animore afaik
[14:44] <shampoo> öhm
[14:44] <shampoo> does not support the mobility video card anymore afaik
[14:44] <bitmonster>  lspci -nn | grep VGA displays:
[14:44] <bitmonster> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] [1002:4c57]
[14:45] <shampoo> Well what i did to solve that problem
[14:45] <shampoo> ib ouht myselv a nvidia card ,)
[14:46] <bitmonster> that's not too easy with a laptop
[14:46] <shampoo> on my other pc with ati card i use the raedon drivers
[14:46] <shampoo> (Ati)
[14:47] <shampoo> the drivers from the url i gave u
[14:48] <bitmonster> yes, but they talk about "ati", "radeon" as well as "fglrx"
[14:51] <bitmonster> here i have the choice between "radeon", "radeon(fbdev)", "radeon(fglrx)" and radeon(vesa)"
[14:51] <shampoo> do you?
[14:51] <shampoo> no
[14:51] <shampoo> the url is about the free radeon driver
[14:52] <bitmonster> i can select it in the "screen and graphics" menu in gnome
[15:04] <sputnick> hi there. where can I find Kubuntu files ( images ) for PXE net booting ?
[15:05] <dangb> what's the difference between the "desktop" and "alternate" iso files?
[15:06] <hola> how is possibile to share ppp0 connection between host and client
[15:07] <jussi01> dangb: desktop actually boots kubuntu (live cd), where alternate is a textbased install
[15:08] <dangb> is there a graphical installer, too ?
[15:11] <meiokilo> opa
[15:11] <dangb> jussi01: does the live cd have installation capabilities?
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[15:12] <kristjan_> woah
[15:12] <tzanger> is there a way to test the binaries from all installed packages installed in my system?  twinkle was corrupted (reinstall fixed it), now I'm seeing openoffice is doing the same
[15:14] <Lynoure> tzanger: yes, but I cannot remember if offhand...
[15:14] <Jasmin_> hi any one knows about airtel edge modem i hav to connect in kubuntu
[15:14] <Jasmin_> how do i do
[15:14] <Lynoure> tzanger: with debsums, I think
[15:15] <BluesKaj> dangb, yes ,the live cd is usually the easiest way to install kubuntu
[15:15] <dangb> BluesKaj: thanks
[15:16] <dangb> jussi01: thanks
[15:17] <Lynoure> tzanger: but all packages do not necessarily have checksums, those you might want to reinstall just in case.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> dangb, if you intend to dual boot windows/linux , then partition your HDD first with windows first then linux, and linux swap and the end. I recommend using GParted Live CD partition editor. It'simple and effective
[15:19] <dangb> BluesKaj: ok, thanks
[15:21] <tzanger> Lynoure: ok, thanks
[15:28] <dangb> is it "safe" to install debian packages on a  ubuntu system?
[15:29] <Arwen> depends on the package
[15:29] <Arwen> they'll install correctly if that's what you mean
[15:29] <Arwen> whether or not they work though...
[15:30] <Lynoure> at worst they might pull dependencies from debian repos, if you went and added those repos, and that sometimes might mess things up for you.
[15:32] <Arwen> *cough*, I didn't like Dolphin so I switched back to using Konqueror... Only, I can't even copy things by dragging them across tabs?
[15:33] <Signil> is there an app which i culd use to convert mp3 to 3gp format?
[15:33] <Arwen> 3gps are MP4 files...
[15:34] <ForgeAus> Arwen use 2 windows or copy-paste instead
[15:34] <Arwen> you want to use MP4Box and neroAacEnc (the second one is proprietary)
[15:34] <Arwen> ForgeAus, yeah, I know
[15:34] <ForgeAus> I don't know if konqi is meant to copy that way
[15:34] <Lynoure> Arwen: hmm, when I use konqueror, I still can do that. Takes a bit of aim and patience, though
[15:35] <ahmed> hi anyone here to help me with klamAv
[15:35] <Signil> i see
[15:35] <tekteen> ahmed: sure. what is the problem
[15:36] <ahmed> i want to enable autoscan it says u have to enable dazuko
[15:37] <tekteen> Let me look at the program
[15:37] <ahmed> when ii say ok upload it i get meesage it was not successfully uploaded
[15:37] <Jasmin_> tekteen: hi
[15:38] <tekteen> ahmed: just click load module
[15:38] <tekteen> then enter your password
[15:38] <reivilo78> hey
[15:38] <tekteen> Jasmin_: hi
[15:38] <reivilo78> i have a problem
[15:38] <ahmed> i do this then i got message dazuko was not loaded successfully
[15:38] <tekteen> ok
[15:38] <reivilo78> in building the proprietary ati drivers
[15:39] <reivilo78> i follow the method here : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[15:39] <tekteen> open a konsole <ahmed>
[15:39] <reivilo78> and when i try to install the deb packages
[15:39] <hola> how can i share my ppp0 connection between host and client
[15:39] <ahmed> ok i opened it
[15:40] <reivilo78> i get this error : Error!  Build of fglrx.ko failed for: 2.6.22-14-generic (i686)
[15:40] <tekteen> ahmed: nm I fount the problem. You do not have the module
[15:40] <Jasmin_> tekteen: can u help me i hav airtel edge modem how do i connect in kubuntu
[15:40] <Arwen> reivilo78, which version of fglrx are you trying to install?
[15:40] <reivilo78> the last one
[15:40] <ahmed> i tried to install it by apt-get it failed
[15:40] <reivilo78> envy method didnt work
[15:40] <tekteen> Jasmin_: sure. As soon as I finish with ahmed
[15:40] <Arwen> aside from recent ones having terrible performance and absolutely no vsync....
[15:41] <Arwen> did you remember to install the linux-headers-whatever?
[15:41] <tekteen> ahmed: give me a sec. I will try to figure it out
[15:41] <reivilo78> no i didnt but i think theyre already there let me check
[15:42] <Jasmin_> tekteen: ok i waiting for ur msg
[15:42] <ahmed> ok
[15:42] <slow-motion> hi
[15:42] <reivilo78> i used the ones in the repository are the recent ones worse?
[15:42] <Arwen> recent ones are built from the Windows drives. Thus, they have the same OpenGL-related issues.
[15:42] <tekteen> ahmed: we need to compile the module
[15:42] <hola> how can i share my ppp0 connection between host and client
[15:42] <Arwen> and for some reason, they can't run at 1680x1050
[15:43] <reivilo78> ok
[15:43] <ahmed> ok how is that?
[15:43] <reivilo78> so i just checked
[15:43] <reivilo78> linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[15:43] <reivilo78> is installed
[15:43] <jpatrick> !nickspam > tonio_o
[15:43] <Arwen> hmm, and when you tried to install fglrx-kernel-source, what did it return?
[15:43] <jpatrick> !es > tonio_o
[15:44] <tonio_o> bu?
[15:44] <tonio_o> :|
[15:44] <reivilo78> nothing
[15:44] <ahmed> how we compile this module?
[15:44] <tekteen> ahmed: I am looking it up
[15:45] <reivilo78> problems occured when parametring xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:45] <ahmed> ok take your time
[15:46] <Arwen> reivilo78, what problems?
[15:46] <Arwen> a log would be nice
[15:46] <tekteen> ahmed: I found this. http://allyourtech.com/content/articles/15_01_2006_installing_antivir_with_on_access_scanning_in_ubuntu_linux.php
[15:47] <reivilo78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54607/
[15:47] <ahmed> ok im with you
[15:47] <tekteen> first do sudo apt-get install module-assistant debhelper j2re1.4
[15:47] <tekteen> in the konsole
[15:47] <sebastian^> hey all
[15:48] <tekteen> ahmed: then sudo apt-get install dazuko-source
[15:48] <Arwen> reivilo78, what does the make.log the error references say?
[15:48] <tekteen> ahmed: then sudo module-assistant prepare
[15:48] <tekteen> then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:49] <tekteen> ahmed: sudo m-a a-i dazuko
[15:49] <reivilo78> make.log
[15:49] <reivilo78> says nothing interesting
[15:49] <Arwen> huh
[15:50] <reivilo78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54608/
[15:50] <reivilo78> then in the same directory
[15:50] <reivilo78> i found make.sh.log
[15:50] <tekteen> ahmed: the next step is weird
[15:50] <tekteen> I am going to pastebin it
[15:50] <ahmed> what is the next step?
[15:51] <reivilo78> which says that : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54610/
[15:52] <tekteen> ahmed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54611/
[15:53] <tekteen> ahmed: tell me when you have done it
[15:53] <ahmed> ok this link i have to open it?? or put in the console when ask?
[15:54] <tekteen> open the link
[15:54] <Jasmin_> http://www.airtel.co.in/level2_t3data.aspx?path=1/106/179 i hav this modem n how do i connect in kubuntu
[15:54] <tekteen> and put the stuff in the link in the konsole
[15:54] <ahmed> ok thanks it still download jre when i finish i tell ok
[15:55] <hola> someone know how to share ppp0 connection between host and cleint using a bridge
[15:55] <Red_Tear> !de
[15:55] <tekteen> ahmed: ok. Why are you downloading jre?
[15:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:56] <mondschatten_> i've some probs with my sounddriver, may its an known prob ... can't install the alsadriver for realtek alc880
[15:56] <reivilo78> salut
[15:56] <reivilo78> j'ai un problème lors de l'installation des driver proprétaire ATI
[15:56] <reivilo78> J'ai essayé la méthode envy qui n'a pas marché
[15:57] <reivilo78> maintenant j'essaye par la méthode de génération des paquet et j'ai un problème lors du dépaquetage des paquets
[15:57] <Jasmin_> tekteen: r u free now
[15:58] <tekteen> Jasmin_: I think so
[15:58] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, essayer les default restricted drivers en system settings/advanced
[15:58] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/104 and Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. this is my modem
[15:59] <ahmed> you said this to me  <tekteen> first do sudo apt-get install module-assistant debhelper j2re1.4
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !fr | reivilo78
[15:59] <ubotu> reivilo78: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:59] <tekteen> ahmed: ok nm then
[15:59] <tekteen> forgot
[15:59] <reivilo78> yeah sorry i spoke in the wrong channel :)
[15:59] <ahmed> ok sould i have too canel it??
[15:59] <ahmed> i opened yuor link
[16:00] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, you got my drift eh?
[16:00] <reivilo78> what do you mean
[16:00] <reivilo78> try the restricted drivers
[16:00] <tekteen> copy the install dazuko modprobe -r capability;\ modprobe -i dazuko; \ modprobe -i capability
[16:00] <tekteen> to the konsole
[16:01] <tekteen> Jasmin_: what is your problem?
[16:01] <tekteen> Jasmin_: It should work
[16:01] <BluesKaj> the ati proprietary drivers don't work well with games and 3D/ DRI  requirements so the restricted driver on low end ATI on board.
[16:02] <reivilo78> ok
[16:02] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, what graphics card do you have ?
[16:02] <reivilo78> so the open source drivers work better
[16:02] <reivilo78> i have Mobility Radeon 9700
[16:02] <Jasmin_> i dont know n i hav airtel edge modem n i hav to connect in kubuntu now i m using internet with my Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[16:02] <reivilo78> I have successfully tried the open source drivers with compiz fusion
[16:03] <reivilo78> but i wanted to give a try to the proprietary drivers
[16:03] <ahmed> here is what i got
[16:03] <tekteen> !u|Jasmin_
[16:03] <ubotu> Jasmin_: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[16:03] <ahmed> install: invalid option -- r
[16:03] <ahmed> Try `install --help' for more information.
[16:03] <ahmed> Command 'modprobe' is available in '/sbin/modprobe'
[16:03] <ahmed> bash:  modprobe: command not found
[16:03] <ahmed> Command 'modprobe' is available in '/sbin/modprobe'
[16:03] <ahmed> bash:  modprobe: command not found
[16:03] <Jasmin_> tekteen: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/104
[16:04] <ahmed> i try this
[16:04] <ahmed>  install dazuko modprobe -r capability;\
[16:04] <ahmed> > modprobe -i dazuko; \
[16:04] <ahmed> > modprobe -i capability
[16:04] <tekteen> ahmed: sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[16:05] <tekteen> then try it again
[16:05] <Jasmin_> tekteen: Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. this is my modem
[16:05] <tekteen> Jasmin_: what is the problem? is it not working?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, the Radeon proprietary drivers on gutsy don't work very well . You'll have to uninstall them first in order for the restricted driver to work properly : https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat81-inst.html
[16:05] <reivilo78> but what do you mean restricted
[16:05] <reivilo78> i know
[16:05] <Jasmin_> tekteen: yes i can not connect in kubuntu
[16:06] <reivilo78> the proprietary drivers on the repository
[16:06] <reivilo78> the proprietary on the ati site
[16:06] <reivilo78> and the open source ones
[16:06] <tekteen> Jasmin_: you have tried to use kppp?
[16:06] <reivilo78> what are the restricted drivers
[16:06] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, the restricted driver default can be found in system settings/advanced
[16:06] <ahmed> and i got
[16:06] <ahmed> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:06] <ahmed> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:07] <tekteen> !adeptfix | ahmed
[16:07] <Jasmin_> tekteen: yes but i cant
[16:07] <ubotu> ahmed: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:07] <Jasmin_> tekteen: tel me how do i config my modem in kubuntu
[16:07] <tekteen> ahmed: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:07] <bjarty> what dows the different colrs mean when i type ls
[16:07] <tekteen> Jasmin_: open kppp
[16:08] <reivilo78> BluesKaj: ok well they are"not used"
[16:08] <tekteen> Jasmin_: go to configure
[16:08] <tekteen> modems
[16:08] <Jasmin_> teok
[16:08] <tekteen> new
[16:08] <tekteen> modem name=I do not care
[16:09] <tekteen> device=/dev/ttyS0
[16:09] <Jasmin_> tekteen: then
[16:09] <BluesKaj> ok reivilo78 , follow the uninstall instructions in the URL I posted above, if you're using the proprietary radeon driver
[16:09] <tekteen> Is it a hardware or soft modem?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, then install the restricted driver in 'advanced' ...you'll need to be in admin mode to do so
[16:10] <Jasmin_> tekteen: it is hardware
[16:11] <tekteen> Jasmin_: nm
[16:12] <tekteen> Jasmin_: pastebin the output of /dev/usb
[16:12] <Daisuke_Ido> do you know the difference?  i hate to be patronizing, but....
[16:12] <Jasmin_> tekteen: Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[16:12] <tekteen> ls /dev/usb
[16:12] <reivilo78> ok
[16:12] <reivilo78> but that way
[16:12] <tekteen> Jasmin_: pastebin... ls /dev/usb
[16:12] <reivilo78> it will not install the most recent ones
[16:12] <reivilo78> i already did that
[16:13] <Daisuke_Ido> uhbuh
[16:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that omnivision technologies piece is your modem?
[16:13] <Daisuke_Ido> because...  it isn't.
[16:13] <Jasmin_> tekteen: ls: /dev/usb: No such file or directory
[16:13] <tekteen> ok
[16:14] <tekteen> Jasmin_: how about ls /dev/ttyACM*
[16:14] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, uninstall the "most recent ones". They don't work very well.The default restricted one does work well.
[16:15] <reivilo78> ok
[16:15] <Daisuke_Ido> am i not getting through?
[16:15] <reivilo78> well i already tried them
[16:15] <reivilo78> the open source ones work better
[16:15] <Jasmin_> tekteen: /dev/ttyACM0
[16:15] <reivilo78> at least with compiz
[16:15] <BluesKaj> yes, the restricted one is open source
[16:15] <Daisuke_Ido> there's your motorola
[16:15] <tekteen> Jasmin_: setup the modem to use /dev/ttyACM0
[16:16] <Jasmin_> but now i am using my internet with my Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[16:16] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, so that makes sense
[16:16] <Jasmin_> tekteen: i connect both modem
[16:16] <Daisuke_Ido> that's your modem interface.  05a9:2640 is not a modem
[16:16] <tekteen> Jasmin_: ?
[16:16] <Daisuke_Ido> it is a webcam
[16:17] <Jasmin_> tekteen: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/104
[16:17] <Daisuke_Ido> bit of a large difference there
[16:17] <BluesKaj> reivilo78, if the default restricted one doesn't work , then reinstall the proprietary drivers ...it's up to you
[16:17] <Jasmin_> tekteen: Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[16:17] <tekteen> Jasmin_: I get it
[16:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Jasmin_: THAT is a webcam that is NOT a modem.
[16:17] <Jasmin_> tekteen: this modem i hav to connect
[16:18] <tekteen> Jasmin_: http://www.ovt.com/products/
[16:18] <reivilo78> no they do work
[16:18] <reivilo78> i already tried them
[16:18] <reivilo78> i wanted to try the most recent ATI ones
[16:19] <Jasmin_> tekteen: sorry this one Bus 004 Device 007: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc.
[16:20] <hola> ow can i share my ppp interface with a client
[16:20] <tekteen> Jasmin_: setup kppp
[16:21] <tekteen> to use the modem /dev/ttyACM0
[16:21] <Jasmin_> tekteen: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/105
[16:21] <tekteen> Jasmin_: do not show me that again
[16:21] <adrock358> Anyone know how to get FREE textbooks online?
[16:21] <tekteen> nm it is new
[16:22] <lupul> hi. is there something like cleartype on linux?
[16:22] <Jasmin_> tekteen: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/105 see this one
[16:22] <tekteen> Jasmin_: setup kppp to use the modem /dev/ttyACM0
[16:22] <Jasmin_> tekteen: Bus 004 Device 007: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc.
[16:22] <hola> ow can i share my ppp interface with a client
[16:22] <Jasmin_> tekteen: this modem i hav to connect
[16:22] <tekteen> Jasmin_: please just do it
[16:23] <adrock358> what is cleartype Lupul?
[16:24] <Jasmin_> tekteen: can i use both the modem together
[16:24] <adrock358> So no one knows about free textbooks for school?
[16:24] <lupul> in windows xp was an option to make the fonts clearer. i mean in high res the fonts are so thin and barely visible
[16:24] <tekteen> Jasmin_: no
[16:24] <adrock358> lupul.  i bet you there are.  have you checked gimp and other programs?
[16:24] <tekteen> Jasmin_: setup  /dev/ttyACM0 as the ONLY modem
[16:25] <adrock358> lupul you don't know about free online textbooks so you?
[16:26] <tekteen> Jasmin_: here is what I think. It is setup and ready we just need to figure out which device it is (not the same as is said in lsusb)
[16:28] <Jasmin_> tekteen: you didnt understad me see now i m using kubuntu n i connect my internet with my Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone and one more modem i hav that one i hav to connect
[16:29] <tekteen> Jasmin_: is the modem plugged in now?
[16:30] <Jasmin_> tekteen: yes
[16:30] <tekteen> Jasmin_: we need to figure out what the "device file is"
[16:31] <Jasmin_> tekteen: how do we do
[16:32] <tekteen> Jasmin_: It could be called /dev/USB0 what is the output of ls /dev/USB*       ?
[16:32] <ScorpKing> try sudo wvdialconf. it will detect en setup most of the modem settings
[16:32] <ScorpKing> and*
[16:32] <tekteen> ScorpKing: thanks
[16:33] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[16:33] <Jasmin_> tekteen: i did that one also but its not working
[16:33] <ScorpKing> you have to edit /etc/wvdial.conf and fill in the missing parts. after that run sudo wvdial
[16:33] <tekteen> Jasmin_: did you plug the phone line into the wall
[16:34] <xenobius> hey, is the device /dev/fb0 hardware specfic ? like if I have a driver for my video card, and am not using VESA., is there a way to enable the device ? freeorion keeps spitting out an error saying it doesn't exist (which it doesn't), how do I enable framebuffer support ?
[16:35] <ScorpKing> !audio > me
[16:36] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/106
[16:37] <ScorpKing> !modem
[16:37] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[16:37] <tekteen> I need to go
[16:37] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: is it a usb modem?
[16:37] <Jasmin_> ScorpKing: yes
[16:38] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: it could be /dev/ttyACM0 or /dev/ttyUSB0. most phones are ttyACM0
[16:41] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: here's my wvdial.conf - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54624/
[16:41] <Jasmin_> ScorpKing: yes i know now i m using my internet with my Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone its setting ttyACM0 but i dont know that modem i could not connect atall
[16:42] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: look on google. you should be able to find all the setting online
[16:44] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: when you plug in the modem run dmesg | tail .it should give some usefull info
[16:50] <ForgeAus> !grub
[16:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:50] <jpatrick> !msgthebot | ForgeAus
[16:50] <ubotu> ForgeAus: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:51] <ForgeAus> um I did that to get a link to paste to someone
[16:51] <ForgeAus> wasn't a joke
[16:51] <ForgeAus> just that they weren't in here thats all
[16:51] <jpatrick> ah, right
[16:52] <ForgeAus> (from ##windows someone lost their grub boot manager and wanted it back
[16:52] <ForgeAus> and since mostly the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows link can be used with other Linuxes I sent them there)
[16:53] <ForgeAus> well the important bits should work with most Linuxes using Grub anyway...
[17:05] <_Shade_> which development iso image should i get to be able to use kde4 by default?
[17:06] <dean__> hello all
[17:16] <BluesKaj> !kde4 | _Shade_
[17:16] <ubotu> _Shade_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:17] <_Shade_> BluesKaj: but is it a default desktop environment in hardy?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> no
[17:19] <BluesKaj> _Shade_, hardy will still be using KDE 3.5.8 when the official distro is released , kde4 isn't quite up to std yet , altho it does work with a few glitches even on gutsy
[17:24] <Ralesk> hi all -- I can't seem to get the "gtk styles and fonts" to work :(  it always shows that ugly default engine in gtk apps.
[17:27] <slnoff> #ubuntu.ru
[17:30] <Artimus> I'm having trouble with Network Manager (Gutsy).  When I (re)start the networking init script, I get this: "Configuring network interfaces...Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0".  My /etc/network/interfaces has "auto eth0" in it, and eth0 is really my ethernet card.  Any ideas?
[17:34] <ScorpKing> I've made some changes to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy and added "Boot a floppy image without a floppy drive" to the bottom of the page. Please check if everything I've added is correct and feel free to fix any mistakes. Hope it's helpfull to someone. :D
[17:34] <Hideki> I cant get a crontab job to run, anyone can help me?
[17:35] <Hideki> I used sudo crontab -e -u root and it does show when I do a -l but It just wont run
[17:35] <Hideki> 25 18 * * * root  /home/server/Backupscript
[17:35] <ScorpKing> Artimus: did you change your network card or motherboard?
[17:36] <Artimus> ScorpKing: A while ago...  What file has the MAC address -> interface mapping?
[17:36] <Artimus> I'm pretty sure I deleted the old entry and set my new ethernet card to eth0
[17:37] <Artimus> here we go.  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:37] <ScorpKing> Artimus: check in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules if the mac address for eth0 is correct
[17:37] <ScorpKing> haha
[17:37] <Artimus> yeah
[17:38] <Artimus> eth0 is my onboard, eth1 is my other ethernet card
[17:38] <ScorpKing> hmm.. i had the same problem on a few boxes last week
[17:38] <Artimus> I'm not 100% sure how I'm on the internet right now anyway...  Hibernate has issues with my box
[17:39] <Artimus> Well, the KDE Network Manager does...  My interfaces disappear from it upon resume...
[17:39] <ScorpKing> Artimus: run ifconfig and see what's configured
[17:39] <Artimus> It's right.
[17:40] <Artimus> I rather like the KDE network manager.  This box is a desktop, so I let the little KDE tool manage my interfaces.  "auto eth0" is all I should need in /etc/network/interfaces for that, right?
[17:40] <AMcBain> How do I install Java jdk 6.0 via apt-get?
[17:41] <Silouck> anyone using kubuntu x86_64
[17:42] <ScorpKing> Artimus: i've had a lot of problems with knetworkmanager in the past so i just do it manually now.
[17:42] <sveri> AMcBain: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[17:42] <ScorpKing> Artimus: you need auto eth0 and then iface eth0 inet dhcp below that
[17:43] <sveri> AMcBain: replace the 5 with 6 and youre done, my fault :-)
[17:43] <Artimus> ScorpKing: As far as I know, that's if I want the system to manage it.  If I add that, the knetworkmanager won't even show the interface
[17:44] <Ralesk> I can't seem to get the "gtk styles and fonts" to work :(  it always shows that ugly default engine in gtk apps.  <-- anyone?
[17:44] <AMcBain> Okay, I got it, time to see if Eclipse likes it ...
[17:45] <mrdlouisd> is there a good guide i can follow to install kubuntu on my 4 gig pen drive?
[17:45] <mrdlouisd> i am running off a livedvd atm
[17:45] <ScorpKing> Artimus: ah. i see now.
[17:45] <Silouck> anyone using kubuntu x86_64
[17:46] <ahmed> hi i still need help with
[17:46] <ahmed> klamAV
[17:46]  * AMcBain watches his hdd space tick away as Eclipse installs a zillion and one packages.
[17:46] <Artimus> ScorpKing: It worked great for quite a while, now it's just suddenly started doing this...  I'm not 100% convinced this isn't an update's fault.
[17:47] <ahmed> anyone help me here with klamAv
[17:47] <sveri> AMcBain: theres also an eclipse version with integrated jdk available
[17:48] <ScorpKing> Artimus: yeah. you'll have a lot less trouble if you do it manually and it's not that dificult. ;)
[17:48] <AMcBain> Maybe, but the last time I installed Eclipse via Adept, it required a JDK. ..
[17:48] <Artimus> ScorpKing: It's more for the fact that this box often goes places where DHCP isn't available
[17:48] <sveri> oh, ok, i always downloaded it from eclipse.something
[17:48] <AMcBain> Anyways, it seems to work. I can now get my Workspace files off my ext hdd.
[17:49] <AMcBain> after I remount it :-/
[17:49] <ScorpKing> Artimus: so the ip address has to be something else all the time?
[17:49] <Artimus> ScorpKing: It's often DHCP.  Sometimes it's static.  I rather like the network applet.  Also the "Now Unplugged" notifications
[17:50] <ahmed> anyone help me with kalmAV
[17:51] <aharoon111> please could nyone help me with kalmAV?
[17:51] <ScorpKing> Artimus: oh ok. it should be possible to make eth0 static and add eth0:1 as a virtual device and make it dhcp btw. other than that check the knetworkmanager bug reports
[17:51] <ScorpKing> !ask | aharoon111
[17:51] <ubotu> aharoon111: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:52] <aharoon111> sorry i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load ,odel dazuko when i said ok load i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[17:52] <Artimus> ScorpKing: Those aliases are ugly.  I'll keep messing with it...  Thanks.
[17:53] <ScorpKing> yw
[17:54] <Artimus> Well, I'm off...  My cable modem needs to be rebooted, it's dropping packets.
[17:54] <ScorpKing> cheers
[17:59] <aharoon111> i installed kalmAV and  i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load model dazuko when i said ok load it i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[18:06] <unagi> can someone help me troubleshoot why kopete hangs on startup
[18:07] <pag> unagi, are you using a fresh gutsy install?
[18:07] <Ralesk> unagi: it locks up for a few seconds, right?
[18:07] <unagi> fairly fresh kubuntu-desktop install pag no it locks up for good Ralesk
[18:08] <Ralesk> ah, for me it's just temporary -- recovers after 10 secs or so
[18:08] <pag> unagi, does 'fairly fresh' mean you've already ran all the updates?
[18:08] <unagi> fairly fresh meaning 4 or 5 days ago i ran sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:09] <unagi> and from day 1 kopete hangs
[18:09] <aharoon111>  i installed kalmAV and  i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load model dazuko when i said ok load it i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[18:09] <pag> unagi, hmm.. try running ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade '
[18:09] <BluesKaj> unagi, try it from the konsole ..then post the ouput in pastebin
[18:09] <Silouck> anyone using kubuntu x86_64
[18:10] <unagi> ther is no error
[18:10] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:11] <pag> unagi, removing ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc  might also help
[18:11] <unagi> dist upgrade isntalls nothing new
[18:11] <rdw> hello, anybody has resolved Failed to initialize nvidia kernel module error in X?
[18:11] <unagi> hrm
[18:11] <unagi> running so far
[18:12] <unagi> oh
[18:12] <unagi> its hanging
[18:12] <unagi> im gonna let it sit for a minute
[18:12] <Silouck> where can i download the lastest kubuntu build?
[18:13] <unagi> though when i run kopete in konsole.......the konsole goes back to $ even though kopete is running
[18:13] <Ralesk> many kde programs seem to detach themselves
[18:13] <unagi> whats the command to see the vendor and product ID of my webcam
[18:13] <Ralesk> lsusb
[18:13] <BluesKaj> !Hardy
[18:13] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:14] <unagi> xxxx:xxxx is vendor:product?
[18:14] <Ralesk> yup
[18:14] <unagi> kopete now hangs when i try to add my msn account
[18:15] <Ralesk> for me, kopete locks up on loading the jabber accounts.  then it becomes fine... seems to be a bit laggy with 1000+ contacts though :)))
[18:15] <Ralesk> especially doesn't like when someone changes his/her name.
[18:19] <unagi> is there a way to add it via command line?
[18:20] <rdw> hello, anybody has resolved Failed to initialize nvidia kernel module error in X?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> unagi, is it a USB cam ?
[18:24] <aharoon111> i installed kalmAV and  i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load model dazuko when i said ok load it i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[18:25] <BluesKaj> well, time to do some errands , BBL
[18:35] <ScorpKing> does kdevelop support qt4.x?
[18:41] <agruman> Heya i get horizontal tearing when playing video, i have tried: different players, different driver versions, analog / dvi / hdmi "-vo gl, gl2 aso" but nothing seems to help :( please some help here, im using a ati hd2600xt
[18:42] <xenobius> hey if your 3d card is working well, what kind of framrate should glxgears be hittings ?
[18:42] <JoeyJoeJo> The clock isn't showing up at the bottom right hand side of my screen.. how can I get it back?
[18:43] <ScorpKing> JoeyJoeJo: add applet to panel --> clock
[18:44] <agruman> xenobius depends on card, mine give aprox 8k
[18:44] <xenobius> a second ?
[18:44] <xenobius> what graphics card are you using and does it have any bugs or incompatabilities ?
[18:45] <agruman> xenobius ~8k FPS yes
[18:45] <JoeyJoeJo> ScorpKing: where do I find panel --> clock?
[18:45] <agruman> ati hd2600 xt
[18:46] <ScorpKing> JoeyJoeJo: right click on the panel
[18:46] <xenobius> hrmmm
[18:46] <xenobius> everyone hass been telling me that ati and ubuntu aren't a good mix...
[18:47] <ScorpKing> heh. my nvidia drivers don't work - again! :(
[18:47] <ahmed> hi i installed kalmAV i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load ,odel dazuko when i said ok load i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[18:47] <JoeyJoeJo> ScorpKing: if I right click on the panel, all I see is task manager settings
[18:47] <ahmed> what i do?
[18:47] <Sbucat> xenobius: and...so
[18:47] <ScorpKing> JoeyJoeJo: click where there's nothing
[18:48] <agruman> xenobius well perhaps not, i dont have that much experience, still struggling with my own install
[18:48] <JoeyJoeJo> ScorpKing: thats what I did
[18:48] <xenobius> just surprised your's works well for you thats all
[18:48] <JoeyJoeJo> ScorpKing: something tells me I didn't install something when I upgraded to KDE4
[18:48] <ScorpKing> JoeyJoeJo: ah. no kde4 here
[18:48] <agruman> xenobius well apart from tearing when playing video its ok, but that realy sucks .. realy gotta get it fixed
[18:49] <JoeyJoeJo> ScorpKing: ok, that must be it then.. thanks for your help anyway
[18:49] <ScorpKing> yw
[18:49] <xenobius>  GIGABYTE GV-N52128DS-RH GeForce FX 5200 128MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Re
[18:49] <xenobius> see that ?
[18:49] <xenobius> the fact that it has geforce in it means its an  nvidia driven card right ?
[18:49] <ahmed>  hi i installed kalmAV i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load ,odel dazuko when i said ok load i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[18:49] <agruman> xenobius yes
[18:50] <jussi01> !repeat | ahmed
[18:50] <ubotu> ahmed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:50] <xenobius> excellent, so nvidia just sells it chipset to random manufacturers who integrate it into their cards ?
[18:51] <agruman> xenobius well thats how the market works
[18:53] <xenobius> cool, so whats the benefit of using these nvidia designed motherboards ? faster frame switching ?
[18:53] <AMcBain> What is the hotkey to get Dolphin to show hidden folders/files?
[18:53] <thoreauputic> AMcBain: no idea, but have you tried ctrl+h ?
[18:54] <AMcBain> ctrl+h doesn't cut it. to Google I guess ...
[18:56] <sigma_1234> where do i get additional cup printer drivers from?
[18:56] <maduser> there are some in adept
[18:56] <AMcBain> Got it. It was a view property
[18:57] <thoreauputic> AMcBain: so what is the key combo?
[18:57] <sigma_1234> maduser: where about?
[18:57] <AMcBain> You just go to the view menu, then down at the bottom adjust view properties ...
[18:57] <AMcBain> (there is a key, but this is easier)
[18:58] <AMcBain> I didn't bother looking specifically for the key
[18:58] <thoreauputic> AMcBain: ummm.... OK.
[19:01] <sigma_1234> !cups
[19:01] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[19:03] <unagi> hehe
[19:03] <unagi> virtual machines are great
[19:03] <unagi> i just wish i didnt have to use it for somethign as simple as making a .jpg image sequence into .mov
[19:04]  * travkin is online.
[19:04]  * unagi is impressed
[19:04] <jpatrick> !away > travkin
[19:07] <sigma_1234> !away
[19:07] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[19:09] <abcd> Does anyone know how to refresh a collection in Amarok 3.5.8 ?
[19:09] <sensae> Hello
[19:09] <jpatrick> abcd: it's in the menus :)
[19:10] <draik> Hello all
[19:11] <ahmed> ok does anyony how to display arabic id3 an xmms
[19:11] <draik> When I try to run some apps, I get "Segmentation Fault (core dumped)". What is this and how do I fix it?
[19:12] <Midtronic> draik: that's a program crashing, and without more info, we probably can't do anything
[19:12] <thoreauputic> draik: it's a segfault - a bug is making it crash
[19:12] <sensae> I just moved from OpenSuSE to Kubuntu because I need better support for restricted drivers / the like. It's working well, but OpenSuSE autodetected my NTFS drives and automounted them, whereas taking a peek at my fstab, Kubuntu didn't. Anyone know the flag for mounting NTFS partitions read-only?
[19:12] <draik> Midtronic: What do you need?
[19:12] <Midtronic> seg faults are generally in the program though, if you can replicate it you should send a bug report to the authors
[19:12] <Midtronic> draik: app name, core dump, any errors that the program may spit out before it dies
[19:12] <draik> thoreauputic: Is there a way of knowing which bug?
[19:12] <ahmed> sensae try to use ntfs-config
[19:13] <sensae> ahmed: Thanks, I will
[19:13] <ahmed> nm
[19:13] <draik> Midtronic: When I run Uplink in CLI, it only says                    Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[19:13] <thoreauputic> draik: not really - unless it's been reported - or you can try various things like "strace', "gdb" etc.
[19:14] <sensae> lol, I still can't get used to the fact that the root pass is scrambled in Ubuntu.
[19:14] <ahmed> hi i installed kalmAV i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load ,odel dazuko when i said ok load i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[19:14] <thoreauputic> draik: to get a decent trace though, you would need an unstripped binary :)
[19:14] <Midtronic> draik: I don't know the program, but maybe see if it has a verbose output mode
[19:15] <draik> Midtronic: Uplink is a game. I don't think I have many options with it.
[19:15] <thoreauputic> draik: if it's proprietary, you probably have no recourse but to complain to the supplier ;)
[19:15] <sensae> Argh, the NTFS partitions are marked as in use. I guess I didn't get a clean shut down in Windows. BRB
[19:16] <draik> thoreauputic: Midtronic: Would a re-install fix this issue?
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> !ntfsfix
[19:16] <thoreauputic> draik: almost certainly not
[19:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> hrm.
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> *shrug*
[19:16] <tzanger> quick question.  I am trying to uninstall toshutils and toshset packages (my laptop can't use them) -- so sudo apt-get remove toshset toshutils.  apt tells me it's going to also remove kubuntu-desktop, powermanagement-interface and acpi-support.  I'm 99% certain I want those other packages... what's going on?
[19:16] <kadam> I just did an adept update, and it says there's a new distro version available.  I'm using gutsy 7.10; what would this upgrade be?
[19:17] <thoreauputic> draik: reinstalling stuff in linux really doesn't change anything
[19:17] <SlimeyPete> tzanger: you do want them. Kubuntu-desktop is marked as depending on the things you are trying to remove.
[19:17] <tzanger> it's the toshset package that's doing it
[19:17] <tzanger> SlimeyPete: weird, why would kubuntu-desktop depend on toshset?
[19:17] <SlimeyPete> tzanger: dunno... kubuntu-desktop dependson tonnes of stuff without any apparent reason
[19:18] <thoreauputic> draik: unless it's a config problem, but then you would need to purge the config, and in any case it would be fixable with an editor
[19:18] <tzanger> SlimeyPete: ok, I will leave it the hell alone then :-)  thank you :-)
[19:18] <SlimeyPete> seems like a silly way to do things, to me, but I guess thekubuntu devs have their reasons.
[19:18] <gizkaguy> hello everyone
[19:18] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[19:18] <draik> thoreauputic: Ok. Good to know.
[19:19] <Mediapirate> hi gizkaguy
[19:19] <kadam> if I have 7.10, why would adept ask me to upgrade to 7.10?
[19:19] <draik> I think there may be a deeper issue, though, because Kaffeine doesn't respond too well as a user; kdesu makes it respond a bit better. As a user, it lags and crashes. Would there be an underlying issue here?
[19:20] <gizkaguy> kadam: did you install kubuntu as 7.10 or upgrade?
[19:20] <Mediapirate> Anyone know a good program to extract rars in linux?
[19:20] <draik> Mediapirate: unrar
[19:21] <Midtronic> draik: my immediate guess is that there's some permissions issues... normal user can't get stuff that root can
[19:21] <kadam> gizkaguy: as 7.10.  It actually went through a unch of stuff and said I was already up to date 8)  Scared me for a sec,tho...
[19:21] <Midtronic> but what they might be... you should look at the logs and see if you can glean anything useful
[19:23] <Mediapirate> bye
[19:23] <draik> Midtronic: How/where do I begin?
[19:24] <sensae> .. o.o
[19:24] <sensae> How safe / mature are the write drivers for NTFS now?
[19:24] <SlimeyPete> reasonably safe.
[19:25] <SlimeyPete> ok for personal use, but don't rely on them for important work
[19:25] <sensae> Heh alright, that makes me feel safe using them. I don't think I'd ever put anything terribly important on an NTFS partition.
[19:25] <kiefer> !vlc
[19:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[19:27] <sensae> I guess that brings me to my next question. I have a second system running as a file server. It's sharing the home directories via samba password-protected. What would be the easiest way for me to mount my home directory on my computer, so both computers "share" a home and it resides on the file server?
[19:27] <ahmed> do u know anymediaplayer support arabid id3? i cannt display them in xmms and in amarok it shows 50% of files
[19:27] <Midtronic> nfs, probably
[19:28] <sensae> Midtronic: Was that directed towards me?
[19:29] <killbox> I recently installed KuBuntu on my Hewlett. I am having program update problems, does anyone have advice?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> killbox, pls be more specific
[19:30] <killbox> Like I tried to update Amsn
[19:31] <BluesKaj> update with adept or apt or ... ?
[19:31] <killbox> I will try that. thx
[19:32] <guardian> hi
[19:32] <guardian> i'm testing the kde 4.0 live cd i downloaded on kubuntu.com
[19:32] <guardian> is the desktop install icon supposed to work ?
[19:32] <killbox> Would my systems hadware specs be an issuse?
[19:32] <Shadowfx22> Hello.
[19:33] <killbox> hi
[19:33] <Shadowfx22> I've got a problem... :(
[19:33] <killbox> me too! :(
[19:33] <Shadowfx22> Anyone on that understands, wireless issues/
[19:33] <Shadowfx22> ?*
[19:33] <killbox> what kind of issuse?
[19:34] <Shadowfx22> My wireless isn't working, only when I use the LiveCD does KNetwork Manager see my network.
[19:34] <killbox> issue*
[19:34] <Shadowfx22> I went into the Terminal and it definately sees the network, I gave it the needed information to connect.... But it's not connecting.
[19:34] <Shadowfx22> Right now I'm hooked up wired with my laptop, but I'd like wireless back.
[19:35] <killbox> is your laptop all you have?
[19:35] <Shadowfx22> No, I have my desktop.
[19:35] <Shadowfx22> Running Windows currently for gaming purposes.
[19:36] <killbox> ok. Are you using a router or hub?
[19:36] <Shadowfx22> Router
[19:36] <Shadowfx22> My desktop is able to hook up wirelessly.
[19:36] <killbox> is your router wireless?
[19:36] <Shadowfx22> Yes...
[19:37] <Shadowfx22> I'm not completely stupid, just new to Kubuntu and linux in general.
[19:37] <killbox> Windows connection wizerd?
[19:37] <killbox> me too
[19:37] <killbox> srry
[19:38] <Shadowfx22> The problem isn't on Windows.
[19:38] <Shadowfx22> It's on Kubuntu.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> Shadowfx22, you can't be stupid , you chose kubuntu :)
[19:38] <killbox> lol
[19:38] <Shadowfx22> :P
[19:38] <killbox> I can't help srry.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> Shadowfx22, I'm not a wireless type guy but I've seen ppl successfully enable wireless by manual congiguring the knetwork manager.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Shadowfx22
[19:40] <ubotu> Shadowfx22: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:40] <BluesKaj> err configure
[19:42] <jmichaelx>  could someone possibly tell me how a person can (or if one can) import an entire dir of photos into OO.o Presentation?
[19:42] <Shadowfx22> BluesKaj,  I've done that, but not success.
[19:43] <Shadowfx22> no*
[19:44] <BluesKaj> Shadowfx22, not really knowledgeable about wireless :(
[19:45] <guardian> is the install icon on the desktop supposed to work when using the kde4 live cd found on kubuntu.com ?
[19:47] <jmichaelx> does anyone here use OO.o Presentation/Impress?
[19:47] <emilsedgh> i never tried it but im sure thats not for fun!
[19:49] <jmichaelx> lol
[19:57] <jmichaelx>  could someone possibly tell me how a person can (or if one can) import an entire dir of photos into OO.o Presentation?
[19:58] <techbw> hi all
[19:58] <jan__> Hi, i try to install kde languagesfile (dutch) but get by configure the message ..checking for dcopidl  ....not found
[19:58] <jan__> configure: error: The important program dcopidl was not found!
[19:58] <jan__> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[19:59] <jan__> i can not find a solution in google
[19:59] <techbw> could anyone help with installation of wifi card ... senao 2511 cd plus...found that you need to install hostap, which I did but seems kernel needs to be rebuilt or at least everywhere I look that is what they say (what is kernel rebuild, and how do I do it)
[20:04] <BluesKaj> techbw, no suggestions about installing linux drivers for the card ?
[20:06] <Agent_bob> i have a strange error from a script.   the script opens a new tty or switches to an open one,  but the new tty only displays >>> /bin/bash: Illegal option -l <<< if user runs the script, and works correctly for root.  script is at http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d523d0a12  if anyone has insight
[20:06] <Agent_bob> the fact that i don't have bash installed might be an issue.  but that hardly explains why it works for root and not for bob
[20:07] <bfrog> is there a script thats called when the fn keys are run
[20:07] <bfrog> its not working right so I was going to see if I could fix it
[20:08] <techbw> BluesKaj-->Hi, can I even check if the pcmcia card has been detected, very new to linux, so don't know how to do this
[20:08] <Agent_bob> techbw   dmesg | grep -i pcm
[20:09] <techbw> ok will quickly try
[20:09] <techbw> forgot have to disconnect from internet...will be back shortly to let you know if it detects the card
[20:10] <boggystudios> when I try to copy to an nfs share on my media server it seems to stall out every once in a while, does any one here know why this might be?
[20:12] <techbw> Agent_bob -- > This is what it says
[20:12] <techbw> [4294701.347000] pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia1.0
[20:12] <techbw> [4294844.781000] cs: pcmcia_socket1: time out after reset.
[20:12] <techbw> [4295274.187000] cs: pcmcia_socket1: time out after reset.
[20:12] <techbw> [4295915.865000] pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1
[20:12] <techbw> [4295915.865000] pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia1.0
[20:12] <techbw> [4297488.953000] cs: pcmcia_socket1: time out after reset.
[20:12] <techbw> [4297492.654000] cs: pcmcia_socket1: time out after reset.
[20:12] <techbw> [4297949.986000] pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1
[20:12] <techbw> [4297949.986000] pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia1.0
[20:12] <techbw> [4298798.317000] cs: pcmcia_socket1: time out after reset
[20:12] <techbw> does this mean it does not detect
[20:12] <Agent_bob> means it does.
[20:13] <techbw> what's the timeout after rester??
[20:13] <jontec> I need to make a patch... a copy/paste of the output from diff (-wur) into a .patch file will work, right?
[20:13] <Agent_bob> looks like you need to insert a module for the card maybe
[20:13] <techbw> when u say module...what's that??? lol drivers??
[20:14] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | techbw , before you post more data
[20:14] <ubotu> techbw , before you post more data: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:14] <Agent_bob> yes in M$ terms it's a driver.   kernel module = peace of code that can be inserted into the running kernel to add support for additional hardware.
[20:16] <techbw> I have been looking for info on how to do this, but have not been able to find it...apperently hostap needs to be added to kernel, but don't know where a howto is
[20:17] <techbw> been searching...evrywhere has download link for source, but no howto
[20:19] <techbw> got to to wget -nc source-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[20:19] <vellakd> okay, this is weird. I get AIM. I get email. I even get IRC (hence why I'm here), but I get no webpages that will load on firefox. I can even ping them too, and get responses. Should I blame the ISP at this point?
[20:19] <techbw> does this sound correct
[20:19] <techbw> how do I check which kernel i am using??
[20:19] <dthacker> vellakd: do you get an error?
[20:20] <vellakd> dthacker: nope. Just a timeout. But thats only on a browser. ping responds alright.
[20:20] <max-p> Hi, how can I do a DHCP renew (command line) ?
[20:20] <sensae> vellakd: And you can ping sites, like ping www.google.com ?
[20:21] <vellakd> sensae: first thing I pinged. Had responses
[20:21] <sensae> vellakd: Hrm, sounds like it isn't a DNS problem then.
[20:21] <vlt> Hello. I have an IBM Laptop running Ubuntu 7.10 with a cdrom drive in a docking station. Sometimes when connecting the laptop to the station the cdrom is recognized and I can access it, sometimes it's not -- and rebooting is the only way I know to enable it. Any idea how to access the drive w/o rebooting?
[20:21] <dthacker> vellakd: what was the last thing you changed?
[20:21] <sensae> vellakd: Go into firefox, go to Preferences, Advanced, Network, and check if it's set to "Connect directly to the internet"
[20:21] <vellakd> Nothing, until this started coming up. I did the usual 'unplug and reset everything'
[20:22] <vellakd> sensae: it isn't set to that.
[20:22] <sensae> vellakd: What's it set to?
[20:23] <vellakd> sensae: manual proxy port configuration
[20:24] <sensae> vellakd: Switch it over to direct connection and see if you can get it to load
[20:24] <nuno> Hey how can i install JRE on Kubuntu so that it works with Firefox?
[20:24] <vellakd> sensae: doesn't appear to be working
[20:25] <draik> I am trying to change the owner of the USB drive to "draik". It is currently root:root. I want it to be draik:root. "sudo chown draik /media/disk" does not work. "chown: changing ownership of `disk/': Operation not permitted".
[20:25] <Pentarex> hello kubuntu users :P
[20:25] <nuno> Hey how can i install JRE on Kubuntu so that it works with Firefox? help please? :o
[20:26] <sensae> vellakd: Ah drat, well it was worth a try. It was probably part of your problem anyway, unless you usually tunnel your network connection
[20:26] <atomicpotato> !java | nuno
[20:26] <ubotu> nuno: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:26] <Pentarex> can anyone tell me why skype is bugged
[20:26] <atomicpotato> you might want sun-java6-plugin package
[20:26] <Pentarex> its only black and white colors when i start it
[20:26] <Pentarex> ?
[20:26] <nuno> That bot rules xD
[20:26] <vellakd> sensae: Nah. Just a typical residential setup. I think I'm gonna call this one against the ISP. Seems like it, considering everything else works.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> techbw, in the terminal : uname -a
[20:26] <draik> !botsnack
[20:26] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[20:27] <Pentarex> can anyone tell me ?
[20:27] <techbw> BluesKaj --> Thnx
[20:28] <sensae> vellakd: Mh, it could still be some odd setup on your system, but I'm at a loss to what it might be, so I'd give em a ring.
[20:28] <MiraiWarren0_0> Is downloading an ubuntu cd image with bittorent on a 28Kbs modem foolish?
[20:29] <sensae> MiraiWarren0_0: Depends on how much patience you have
[20:29] <tekteen> MiraiWarren0_0: I would say yes
[20:29] <vellakd> sensae: eh... I can deal with no internet for a while. Good bit of patience never killled anyone.
[20:29] <MiraiWarren0_0> I've very much.
[20:30] <Mediapirate> Whats the equivelant to /hop for Konversation?
[20:30] <sensae> vellakd: Hah, then that's where we differ. I'd go insane, lol.
[20:30] <sensae> MiraiWarren0_0: Nothing wrong with it if you're willing to wait a month or more for that CD, but at that point, personally, I'd just order one
[20:31] <redshadowhero> sensae: maybe... but, I hate talking on the phone. Discomfort from loss of internet is lessened when you have aim, irc, and email....
[20:31] <Mediapirate> anyone
[20:31] <MiraiWarren0_0> sensae: How long does that take?
[20:32] <redshadowhero> sensae: wait.. I wonder if I could VPN to work and see if webpages load that way...... :\
[20:32] <sensae> redshadowhero: Very true, but I'd be on the phone in 10 minutes if the internet went completely dead.
[20:32] <redshadowhero> sensae: I had to rule out me as the error though. All the 'good IT mumbo jumbo': always blame the user.
[20:33] <bootsmorris> i need some help with wep cracking
[20:33] <Mediapirate> get backtrack
[20:33] <Mediapirate> i think
[20:33] <sensae> MiraiWarren0_0: They're about $7 from the canonical store and I couldn't imagine them taking more than a week or two tops to arrive
[20:33] <tekteen> Mediapirate: you are correct
[20:34] <Mediapirate> w00t
[20:34] <Mediapirate> finally
[20:34] <Mediapirate> lol
[20:34] <tekteen> Mediapirate: backtrack is a life saver
[20:34] <bootsmorris> i just want to d/l the apps but i cant install it it says it needs a dapendency but i already have it installed
[20:34] <tekteen> bootsmorris: Get backtrack. It is a live cd with more tools then you will ever use
[20:35] <sensae> redshadowhero: Yeah. That drives me crazy. I double check I'm not having a problem here, then call in, and then do everything I already did, again, before they'll check on their end.
[20:35] <bootsmorris> ok
[20:35] <Mediapirate> Really?  tekteen how come?
[20:36] <redshadowhero> sensae: well, VPN-ing to work seems to work, because I can remote desktop there and use internet. "Muahahahah" and all that good stuff. Besides, I'
[20:36] <redshadowhero> sensae: I'll let the person who pays for the internet call them.
[20:36] <tekteen> Mediapirate: I use backtrack as part of my job
[20:36] <Mediapirate> oh
[20:36] <Mediapirate> what for?
[20:37] <tekteen> Mediapirate: Reseting passwords and other fun stuff
[20:37] <Mediapirate> hehe cool
[20:37] <sensae> redshadowhero: Yup, in a pinch, a VPN or SSH tunnel will work wonders.
[20:37] <tekteen> Mediapirate: Sometimes I play with kubuntu and lock myself out so I use it then too
[20:37] <Mediapirate> tekteen: what is your job may I ask?
[20:38] <tekteen> Mediapirate: 15 year old computer help.
[20:38] <Mediapirate> cool
[20:38] <tekteen> I want to be a security professional
[20:39] <sensae> Is there any relatively easy way to get HDA Intel audio working? If not, I'll just throw in my Audigy.
[20:39] <redshadowhero> no you don't
[20:39] <Pentarex> can anyone tell me why skype is black and white ?
[20:39] <tekteen> redshadowhero: is that directed at me
[20:39] <tekteen> ?
[20:40] <Pentarex> can anyone tell me why skype is black and white ?
[20:40] <redshadowhero> tekteen: yes, but it was a joke ;)
[20:40] <sensae> Does anyone know of an easy way to get HDA Intel audio working? I really don't want to recompile alsa / my kernel
[20:40] <g2g591> sensae: hmm, my hda intel worked out of the box .....
[20:41] <Pentarex> c'mon is there anyone that can help me with skype ?????????
[20:41] <sensae> g2g591: I'm out of the box right now, and it's completely silent. I've checked the mixer.
[20:41] <Mediapirate> tekteen:  do you know a command like /hop for konversation?
[20:41] <tekteen> nope
[20:41] <Mediapirate> anyone?
[20:41] <Mediapirate> or do you just have to /leave then /join #*?
[20:41] <tekteen> Mediapirate: try /help
[20:41] <BluesKaj>  /join works
[20:42] <Pentarex> tekteen: do u have skype
[20:42] <tekteen> Pentarex: no. I could install it though
[20:42] <tekteen> how did you install it?
[20:42] <Pentarex> i download it then isntall it
[20:42] <Pentarex> install*
[20:42] <Pentarex> :)
[20:42] <Pentarex> its simple
[20:42] <Pentarex> but the problem is
[20:43] <Pentarex> that the screen goes black and white
[20:43] <Pentarex> when
[20:43] <Pentarex> i start it
[20:43] <tekteen> !enter | Pentarex
[20:43] <ubotu> Pentarex: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:43] <Pentarex> ubotu:  ok
[20:43] <Pentarex> tekteen: what ?
[20:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:43] <tekteen> ubotu is a bot
[20:43] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[20:44] <nuno> ubotu is not a bot
[20:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not a bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:44] <nuno> xD
[20:44] <nuno> ubotu JRE
[20:44] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:44] <tekteen> Pentarex: !something commands the bot
[20:44] <tekteen> and the | name tells it to talk to you
[20:44] <nuno> ubotu shutdown :D
[20:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:44] <g2g591> nuno: please play with ubutu in private chat
[20:45] <tekteen> !msgthebot |nuno
[20:45] <ubotu> nuno: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:45] <nuno> oops
[20:45] <nuno> sorry
[20:45] <nuno> btw i need help xD
[20:45] <nuno> i cant install JRE
[20:45] <sensae> Pentarex: I just installed Skype. I don't have audio to test the calls, but I'm logged in, I see my contacts and there are no drawing errors
[20:45] <Pentarex> its debian version right ?
[20:46] <g2g591> nuno: any errors youd like to tell us about?
[20:46] <Pentarex> sensae: its debian version on skype right
[20:46] <sensae> Pentarex: I got the Ubuntu Feisty version.
[20:46] <tekteen> nuno: why not? what have you tried? The more info we have the more chance we can help you
[20:46] <draik> g2g591: my money's on build-essential
[20:46] <Pentarex> sensae: aaa
[20:46] <Pentarex> sensae: see  i have it work on feisty fawn
[20:47] <sensae> Pentarex: There are two Debian versions, one for Debian Etch and one for Feisty Fawn. http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/
[20:47] <Pentarex> sensae: but on kubuntu there is eror
[20:47] <Pentarex> aa
[20:47] <nuno> tekteen: I've downloaded it from the java's site
[20:47] <sensae> Pentarex: Really? I'm on Kubuntu 7.10
[20:47] <tekteen> nuno: what the easy way?
[20:47] <Pentarex> sensae: me 2
[20:48] <Pentarex> sensae: i choose feisty fawn version
[20:48] <Pentarex> sensae: but there is the problem
[20:48] <nuno> tekteen: i ran it on sh and i installed it sucessfully BUT firefox is still not detecting it...
[20:48] <tekteen> ok
[20:48] <sensae> Pentarex: That's the one I chose. I downloaded it to my desktop, simply clicked it and hit install. I've logged in and it all works
[20:48] <tekteen> nuno: why didn't you install it in adept
[20:48] <tekteen> ?
[20:48] <Pentarex> sensae: and there is no graphic problems ?
[20:49] <nuno> tekteen: I tried it too
[20:49] <sensae> Pentarex: Nope
[20:49] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-plugin
[20:49] <Pentarex> sensae: ok how to delete previus skype ? i am new on linux :)
[20:49] <sensae> Pentarex: Did you upgrade or something?
[20:50] <Pentarex> sensae: no
[20:50] <Pentarex> sensae: i want to reinstall it
[20:50] <g2g591> nuno: downloading from sun = not easy
[20:50] <sensae> Pentarex: Go to the K menu, system, adept package manager
[20:50] <nuno> tekteen: ill try it from apt-get too
[20:50] <Pentarex> sensae: 10nx o will check it out
[20:50] <tekteen> !info sun-java6-bin
[20:50] <ubotu> sun-java6-bin (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture dependent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 25795 kB, installed size 77224 kB
[20:51] <g2g591> nuno: if you want the browser plugin install sun-java6-plugin too, like tekteen is saying
[20:51] <Mediapirate> !info backtrack
[20:51] <ubotu> Package backtrack does not exist in gutsy
[20:51] <atomicpotato> !info kmplayer
[20:51] <ubotu> kmplayer (source: kmplayer): media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4a-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 185 kB, installed size 600 kB
[20:51] <nuno> aah!
[20:51] <nuno> I did not installed the plugin xd
[20:51] <draik> nuno: sudo update-alternatives --config java         choose   /usr/lib/jvm/java-[version]-sun/jre/bin/java      It should be about version 6
[20:52] <tekteen> Mediapirate: why would ubotu know about backtrack?
[20:52] <Mediapirate> dunno
[20:52] <Mediapirate> lol
[20:52]  * Mediapirate is gonna crawl into a hole
[20:52] <sigma_1234> whats a good pdf printer? like pdfcreator for windows
[20:52] <tekteen> I can tell you more then ubotu anyway
[20:52] <atomicpotato> sigma_1234, Kubuntu ships with one
[20:53] <tekteen> can you pm?
[20:53] <Mediapirate> hehe
[20:53] <sensae> How can I get mouse4 and mouse5 to work?
[20:53] <Mediapirate> err hang on let me register
[20:53] <sensae> They do weird things in Firefox and nothing in Konqueror / Dolphin. I want them to go back / forward
[20:53] <atomicpotato> cups-pdf iirc
[20:54] <Mediapirate> brb need to re-join the server
[20:54] <sigma_1234> openoffice cannot print to it
[20:54] <Mediapirate> no i can pm i think
[20:55] <nuno> It worked!
[20:55] <nuno> Thanks!
[20:55] <sigma_1234> actually no program can print to it
[20:56] <sigma_1234> !pdf
[20:56] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[20:56] <SpeS> Hi, I've been trying KDE4, but my icons are completely messed after some time... is that a known issue?
[20:56] <Pentarex> sensae: ok same problem but i will try to change my graphic card properties ot something
[20:56] <SpeS> how can I fixed without restoring my .kde4 configuration?
[20:56] <adam_> How can I find out how much swap I have?  KSysGuard says 0! =O
[20:56] <sensae> Pentarex: Alright
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> !kde4
[20:56] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:57] <Dragnslcr> adam_- System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks
[20:57] <Pentarex> sensae: what is your target gama on monitor and display settings
[20:57] <Odd-rationale> adam_: Try opining a terminal and type top
[20:58] <sensae> Pentarex: 1 for all
[20:58] <sensae> Pentarex: 2 for Gamma
[20:58] <sensae> Pentarex: Sorry, 1 for Gamma Correction for all of them, 2 for the Gamma itself
[20:59] <adam_> Ok, I have swap 8)  Phew!
[20:59] <Pentarex> a ok main is 0.90 for the first and 0 for the others and 2 for gama
[21:00] <Pentarex> sensae: ahhh same problem
[21:00] <Pentarex> sensae: c'mon what i do wrong ? :(
[21:00] <Pentarex> i think i will go again on ubuntu
[21:00] <bfrog> is 4.0.1 coming soon?
[21:00] <bfrog> to kubuntu that is
[21:01] <Pentarex> hehe they just release 4 i think
[21:01] <Pentarex> alpha 4 or something
[21:01] <sensae> Pentarex: Sorry, I'm not sure what else to suggest, I'm not sure what's causing it.
[21:01] <Pentarex> ok np 10nx
[21:04] <bfrog> they tagged 4.0.1 a few days ago actually
[21:04] <bfrog> so I dunno what your talking about Pentarex :-P
[21:04] <bfrog> oh your talking about hardy
[21:04] <bfrog> nm
[21:04] <bfrog> sorry :-D
[21:06] <slow-motion> n8
[21:07] <Pentarex> ok anyone else can help me with skype ?
[21:08] <Pentarex> so nobody
[21:09] <draik> I am trying to change the owner of the USB drive to "draik". It is currently root:root. I want it to be draik:root. "sudo chown draik /media/disk" does not work. "chown: changing ownership of `disk/': Operation not permitted".
[21:14] <jhutchins> Um, we could have helped with that.
[21:15] <sub[t]rnl> helped with what
[21:15] <jhutchins> draik's problem
[21:16] <sub[t]rnl> no one saw it in time
[21:16] <sub[t]rnl> he'll be back, he's in here pretty regular
[21:17] <kiefer_> Hey all, Any wireless experts around?
[21:17] <kiefer_> well, wireless/interface experts
[21:17] <sub[t]rnl> !wireless > kiefer_
[21:18] <kiefer_> already read, to no avail :(
[21:18] <kiefer_> Ive already set it up, its not that
[21:18] <sub[t]rnl> k, whats the problem?
[21:18] <kiefer_> its that about an hour ago-
[21:18] <kiefer_> my wireless signal got weak for some reason and attemped to re-connect
[21:18] <kiefer_> and my pc froze. no biggie
[21:19] <kiefer_> then when i re-booted, a new wireless interface had appeared, i usually just have wlan0, now i have that and wlan0:ava
[21:19] <kiefer_> and now it keeps dropping out and freezing my pc
[21:19] <kiefer_> any idea's? :)
[21:19] <sub[t]rnl> whats in your /etc/network/interfaces
[21:19] <kiefer_> lemme have a peek
[21:20] <kiefer_> 6 relevant lines of info, worth paste-boxing ?
[21:20] <sub[t]rnl> pastebin it
[21:20] <kiefer_> or just paste here?
[21:21] <kiefer_> kk, 1 sec :)
[21:21] <kiefer_> (might take a min, slow connection lol)
[21:22] <akhenaton> hi; can anybody, please help me? i just installed hardy and couldn't find the restricted drivers manager. thanks
[21:22] <akhenaton> (i want to install nvidia driver)
[21:22] <sub[t]rnl> akhenaton➜ try #ubuntu+1
[21:23] <akhenaton> thanks sub[t]rnl; i'll do that
[21:23] <kiefer_> sub: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54638/
[21:25] <sub[t]rnl> that interfaces file is odd, why are you trying to purge network manager in the file
[21:25] <kiefer_> i dont use knetworkmanager, i use konsole to connect to wifi, plus a guide told me to, lmao
[21:25] <kiefer_> want me to pastebin my 'ifconfig' results also? so you can see what i mean by my 'new' interface?
[21:25] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, no need to add it to the file, running it once will remove it and any configuration files
[21:25] <kiefer_> ohk, cheers
[21:25]  * ScorpKing waves to everyone..
[21:25] <Mediapirate> w00t its sub[t]rnl again
[21:26] <kiefer_> Hiyo Scorp :)
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> kiefer_➜ just a sec, is the ip assigned to the interface wlan0, or the wlan0:ava
[21:26]  * BluesKaj waves to ScorpKing
[21:26] <ScorpKing> hiya guys :)
[21:26] <kiefer_> nothing is assigned to wlan0:ava
[21:26] <Mediapirate> Hiya ScorpKing
[21:26] <kiefer_> well, not that ive done anyway
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> bring it down, if you think thats the cause of your troubles
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> sudo ifconfig wlan0:ava down
[21:26] <kiefer_> aight, will do
[21:27] <kiefer_> Now we wait, and see if anything odd happens again.. Thanks for your advice :)
[21:27] <sub[t]rnl> k, give a shout if something comes up
[21:27] <kiefer_> Will do, Thanks :D
[21:28] <kiefer_> I need a smoke, brb :)
[21:29] <mani213> when i make a youtube video screen full it doesnt seem to be working smooth what should i do?
[21:29] <mani213> but it works proper when im playing it on windows xp media center
[21:32] <Mediapirate> Hi Warrior
[21:32] <Mediapirate> hows you mate?
[21:32] <Mediapirate> lol
[21:32] <Warrior> Hello I am good
[21:32] <Mediapirate> cool
[21:32] <Mediapirate> well this is the place to ask your questions if you have any
[21:32] <Mediapirate> 360ppl to ask
[21:34] <Warrior> cool
[21:34] <Warrior> I forgot how to register nick
[21:35] <sub[t]rnl> !register > Warrior
[21:35] <Mediapirate>  /msg nickserv register (password)
[21:35] <Mediapirate> without brackets
[21:35] <Mediapirate> A pie walks into a bar and asks the bar owner if he can have a pint of beer and a packet of crisps. The bar owner replies and says, sorry we dont serve food.
[21:36] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[21:36] <Mediapirate> hehe
[21:37] <foibles> hi there
[21:37] <sourcemaker> this question is off-topic...  but does somebody know... how I can export openoffice document to pdf via command line?
[21:38] <sourcemaker> => open document => update ALL => export to PDF
[21:38] <sourcemaker> I did't find a working macro for this stuff
[21:39] <mani213> whats the compiz chat room?
[21:40] <sensae> Bah, my xorg.conf got horribly messed up, so I renamed it. Now the display control panel won't let me change my settings
[21:40] <BluesKaj> !compiz
[21:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:40] <foibles> whats the command to extract something from command line?
[21:40] <foibles> for bz2
[21:40] <foibles> tar -blah?
[21:40] <foibles> i forget
[21:40] <tyson_> how do i have a program run each time i login / startup?
[21:40] <sub[t]rnl> tar -jxvf whatever.tar.bz2
[21:40] <Artimus> foibles: tar -jxvf
[21:40] <NickPresta> foibles, tar should automatically detect it. tar -xf should be fine.
[21:41] <foibles> NickPresta, thanks
[21:41] <Mediapirate> I'm off
[21:41] <Mediapirate> bye ppl
[21:41] <NickPresta> bye
[21:41] <sub[t]rnl> cyas
[21:41] <sensae> How do I make my system write another xorg.conf, and how do I get my display control panel working again? It complains it can't be loaded
[21:41] <sub[t]rnl> tyson_➜ when you start kde? or when the system boots?
[21:41] <sub[t]rnl> sensae➜ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:42] <tyson_> kde starts
[21:42] <sub[t]rnl> !autostart > tyson_
[21:45] <tyson_> so i have to create a link in there. is that like a symlink?
[21:45] <kiefer_> Sub: Do you know how I can disable vertical mouse scrolling? its rather annoying lol
[21:45] <Jack111> hi
[21:45] <NickPresta> hi, Jack111
[21:46] <Jack111> does somebody know how i add a stream in streamtuner?
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> kiefer_➜ duct tape
[21:47] <sub[t]rnl> kiefer_➜ might be able to change the protocol of the mouse in your xorg.conf
[21:48] <sub[t]rnl> never heard anyone that wanted to disable scrolling though. :p
[21:48] <[ka]killer> is there any comand line command to view network traffic (in/out)
[21:49] <mrdlouisd> anyone have any experience with installing kubuntu 704 on a pen drive?
[21:50] <NickPresta> [ka]killer, netstat?
[21:50] <[ka]killer> ty
[21:51] <NickPresta> I wanted to suggest Wireshark but okay...
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, wireshark > *
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> traffic, packets, meh, he wasn't very specific
[21:52] <sub[t]rnl> !usb | mrdlouisd
[21:52] <ubotu> mrdlouisd: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:58] <the-erm> Is there a command out there that's faster than rm -fR ./directory for removing a directory quicly?
[21:59] <the-erm> I'm backing up my entire drive using rscyn & hard links every day, and it takes a while to remove old backups.
[22:00] <NickPresta> the-erm, why not package up your stuff after?
[22:00] <kiefer_> Thanks for the reply sub, sorry I was watching TV lol, "kiefer_➜ might be able to change the protocol of the mouse in your xorg.conf" where can i find said .conf? :)
[22:00] <the-erm> You mean tar them afterwards?
[22:00] <NickPresta> the-erm, yeah.
[22:00] <the-erm> That kinda removes the whole reasoning behind using hardlinks.
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> use rsync to remove them after it transfers?
[22:01] <the-erm> No, not quite sub[t]rnl   that would remove the originals.
[22:01] <NickPresta> the-erm, check out: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> as far as actual speed of "removing" thats up to the filesystem.
[22:01] <the-erm> I want to keep the originals.
[22:02] <scott25> can someone help me with installing it keeps saying "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed" when it starts to install
[22:05] <ScorpKing> kiefer_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:06] <sub[t]rnl> woop missed his post.  thanks sk
[22:06] <kiefer_> Scorp: Thanks :)
[22:06] <ScorpKing> :)
[22:08] <kiefer_> okay, so im looking to disable vertical mouse scrolling, it has "	Option		"HorizEdgeScroll"	"0"" can i add "VerticEdgeScroll and set it to 0 to disable it?
[22:08] <ScorpKing> if i run /etc/init.d/networking restart all my nfs drives gets mounted. how can i stop that?
[22:09] <sub[t]rnl> does it mount them if you havn't mounted them before the network restart?
[22:09] <ScorpKing> yes
[22:09] <pepe_> Hola
[22:10] <kiefer_> can someone link me to a tutorial on what bash-scripting is? sounds interesting lol
[22:10] <sub[t]rnl> ScorpKing➜ hrm, try stopping nfs-common then restarting network
[22:11] <sub[t]rnl> kiefer_➜ http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[22:11] <ScorpKing> sub[t]rnl: ok. will do.
[22:11] <kiefer_> sub: thanks :)
[22:11] <NickPresta> kiefer_, http://linuxcommand.org/ too
[22:13] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: thanks for that link. very usefull :)
[22:15] <scott25> i keep getting i/o errors when i boot the livecd and i can't create partitions when i install...
[22:15] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, :)
[22:15] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: do you know if there's a pdf for that link?
[22:16] <kiefer_> Nick: Thanks :)
[22:17] <ScorpKing> scott25: create the partitions before you start the install. i think qtparted is on the livecd
[22:17] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, I don't know for sure. You could email the author and ask if he has one (or ask if you can mirror his whole site)
[22:17] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: i'll ask him. thanks
[22:18] <matisse> hi
[22:20] <NickPresta> greetings, matisse
[22:21] <Bizzeh> hey, why does the kubuntu livecd just lock up when i try and boot it up?
[22:21] <tyson_> is there a way to have the kmenu list items alphabetically instead of (seemingly) randomly ?
[22:21] <scott25> ScorpKing: i keep trying qtparted but when i open it and click on the drive it opens a blank window titled progress and just freezes
[22:22] <ScorpKing> scott25: try sudo cdfisk /dev/<yourdisk> in konsole
[22:22] <ScorpKing> scott25: hope you made backups
[22:22] <scott25> ScroptKing: did you mean cfdisk?
[22:23] <ScorpKing> yes
[22:23] <ScorpKing> :) sorry
[22:26] <kiefer_> How do I execute a BASH script ive written through konsole? and what file extension should a bash script have?
[22:26] <kiefer_> dw
[22:26] <kiefer_> figured it out :)
[22:26] <Dr_willis> You dont need an extrension at all.
[22:26] <Dr_willis> chmod +x whatever
[22:26] <Dr_willis> ./whatever
[22:27] <sub[t]rnl> chmod u+x whatever (good form to end it in .sh)
[22:27] <kiefer_> i typed 'bash <filename>' lol, not cool?
[22:27] <Dr_willis> thats another way to do it.
[22:27] <kiefer_> lol ^_^
[22:27] <scott25> ScroptKing: how do i make a swap partition
[22:27] <Dr_willis> in theory the first line of your bash script should be #!/bin/bash
[22:27] <kiefer_> Dr Willi's, Girls Ahoy! i was watching it earlier :)
[22:28] <Dr_willis> kiefer_,  shame shame! :P
[22:28] <kiefer_> why did iput a ' in ur name? lol
[22:28] <kiefer_> lolz, dont tell ur wife :D
[22:28] <tyson_> is there a way to have the kmenu list items alphabetically instead of (seemingly) randomly ?
[22:28] <kiefer_> speaking of which, i need to call the gf, brb.
[22:28] <scott25> ScorpKing: how do i make a swap partition
[22:29] <Dr_willis> use fdisk or gparted, and make a new partition, set its type to swap
[22:29] <ScorpKing> scott25: it's type 82 in cfdisk
[22:31] <scott25> ScorpKing: what about the type for ext3
[22:32] <ScorpKing> scott25: 83
[22:34] <scott25> ScorpKing: it says no primary partitions do i make bootable, was i supposed to make the swap partition bootable?
[22:34] <Dr_willis> you dont boot swap.
[22:34] <Dr_willis> You need to make a partition for / and one for swap.
[22:34] <ScorpKing> scott25: you have to make the primary partition bootable, nothing else
[22:35] <matisse> is it possible to use to different audio programs and select their volume independently ? (f.e. watching a quiet video in kaffeine and hearing music in xmms)
[22:35] <ScorpKing> scott25: make hda1 (for /), hda2 (for /home), and hda3 (for swap)
[22:36] <crimsun> matisse: yes, e.g., using PulseAudio
[22:36] <scott25> ScorpKing: how big should /home be
[22:36] <ScorpKing> scott25: how big is your disk?
[22:36] <scott25> ScorpKing:41g
[22:36] <scott25> 41gb
[22:37] <ScorpKing> scott25: make / 10GB, /home 30.5GB and swap 500mb
[22:38] <scott25> ScorpKing: both hda1 and hda2 will be ext3?
[22:38] <ScorpKing> yes
[22:40] <scott25> ScorpKing: how do i set hda1 as / and hda2 as /home
[22:40] <ScorpKing> scott25: when you install it
[22:40] <Dr_willis> you tell it to mount hda1 as / and hda2 as /home
[22:41] <tyson_> whats better to use, synaptic or adept manager?
[22:41] <scott25> so i dont need to do anything in cfdisk to set its path
[22:41] <matisse> crimsun: seems to be difficult to use... any hints ?
[22:41] <ScorpKing> scott25: correct
[22:41] <PorcoRex> Yeah babe
[22:41] <PorcoRex> yeayea
[22:42] <crimsun> matisse: it's not very difficult to use.  Make sure you have pavucontrol installed.
[22:42] <Dr_willis> cfdisk dosent set the mount point does it? it just fdisks the partitions, then you tell the installer which one ot use for / and for /home, the installer then formats / and /home
[22:43] <scott25> ok i wrote it... do i have to reboot or can i just go ahead with the installation
[22:43]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[22:43] <matisse> crimsun: I first installed pulseaudio. Do I need that too ?
[22:43] <ScorpKing> scott25: just install it now
[22:44] <matisse> cause, it seems to be a port opening service
[22:45] <crimsun> matisse: yes, you need pulseaudio
[22:46] <jhutchins> ScoYoucan also edit /etc/fstab to change after install
[22:47] <jhutchins> :info pulseaudio
[22:48] <jhutchins> !info pulseaudio
[22:48] <ubotu> pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 293 kB, installed size 1028 kB
[22:49] <sensae>  Anyone know how I can get my mouse working right? ie Mouse4 and Mouse5 go forward/back and I can middle click and move to scroll?
[22:49] <smeril> how can i get a driver update for Hda-Intel (hv:0)?
[22:49] <matisse> crimsun: do I have to close all progs using output devices, before it can work ? got an error:    Connection failed: Connection refused
[22:50] <atomicpotato> smeril, I assume you'
[22:50] <atomicpotato> you'd get an updated kernel source and build it
[22:50] <atomicpotato> why?
[22:50] <crimsun> matisse: you need to configure it, at least.   e.g., if you plan to use it as a system-wide daemon, you need to enable it, and you need to add your user to the pulse-access group and log out and back in
[22:50] <ScorpKing> !hdaintel | smeril
[22:50] <ubotu> smeril: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:50] <crimsun> matisse: see /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/
[22:50] <matisse> ok, thanks
[22:50] <smeril> thanks
[22:51] <crimsun> matisse: of course, you also need to switch all audio apps to use pulseaudio if available/applicable
[22:51] <smeril> i got it working temporarily but it stopped
[22:51] <matisse> For more information see http://pulseaudio.org/
[22:51] <matisse> README (END) :-)
[22:52] <crimsun> matisse: are you on gutsy?
[22:52] <matisse> yes
[22:52] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: i found this - http://linuxcommand.org/script_library.php :D
[22:52] <crimsun> matisse: heh, it has been changed for hardy.
[22:52] <tyson_> is there a way to have the kmenu list items alphabetically instead of (seemingly) randomly ? (im not using the new v4)
[22:53] <sensae> Does anyone know how to get all my mouse buttons working?
[22:53] <Dr_willis> depends on the mouse. Theres dozens of guides/howtos on differnt mice
[22:53] <Dr_willis> !mouse
[22:53] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[22:54] <scott25> ScorpKing: does it usually take a long time to scan and detect the disks during installation
[22:55] <ScorpKing> scott25: it depends on the size of your box
[22:55] <scott25> ok it finally did it, so im guessing i go to manual... then do i check off the format boxes for each of them?
[22:56] <sensae> Alright, thanks Dr_willis
[22:56] <cybrhuman> is there a way to set konqueror or dolphin to sort numbers differently? To make it put 2 before 10 and not opposite.
[22:56] <sensae> Next up. I have a 7.1 sound card, but I'm only getting sound out of one of the jacks.
[22:57] <scott25> ScorpKing: is there a mountpoint for swap or do i just set the type as swap then leave the mount point blank
[22:57] <ScorpKing> scott25: there's no mountpoint for swap
[22:57] <scott25> ScorpKing: do i need to check off format for swap
[22:58] <ScorpKing> scott25: no need
[23:01] <m4v> quit
[23:02] <paule118> New/media:/hda5//paule118-desktop/home/ Folder
[23:02] <paule118> eeeeeeeeeeee
[23:02] <paule118> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[23:02] <paule118> tttttttttttttttttttt
[23:03] <ubuntu> Media you there
[23:03] <ScorpKing> paule118: don't do that
[23:03] <paule118> oh sorry
[23:04] <scott25> ScorpKing: "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1master (hda) failed" it gave me the same error but it went further then last time
[23:05] <ScorpKing> scott25: does dmesg | tail say anything?
[23:06] <Dr_willis> if you are using the whole HD for your Ubuntu install. You can just fdisk the drive and delete ALL the partitions. leaving it all unallocated. and the installer can then partition/format it as needed  automaticially
[23:06] <scott25> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54646/
[23:06] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: it fails everytime
[23:06] <Dr_willis> I would fdisk, delete all parittions, reboot, let the installer try again. If that still fails.. well theres something serious going on.
[23:07] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: see that paste
[23:07] <sensae> I don't even care if I get surround on the jacks. Is there any way to get my system to output audio multiple times on the different jacks?
[23:07] <Dr_willis> looks to me like hda is going bad.
[23:07] <scott25> is my hard drive failing?
[23:08] <ScorpKing> yeah, or the BIOS settings
[23:08] <Manad> hi
[23:08] <ScorpKing> scott25: usually if the disk fails you'll get I/O errors
[23:08] <Manad> I need help playing encrypted DVDs. I tried running the install-css.sh script as people said I should (googled it before coming here), but it says "command not found"
[23:09] <Manad> can anyone tell me what I can do?
[23:09] <scott25> ScorpKing: so i need to buy a new hard drive... but it is possible that something else could be messed
[23:10] <ScorpKing> scott25: you can reset the bios settings to the defaults and try again. if that doesn't work try 'badblocks /dev/hda' or get a new disk
[23:10] <scott25> i have never changed bios settings
[23:11] <ScorpKing> !dvd | Manad
[23:11] <ubotu> Manad: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:11] <scott25> would it be possible for something to change it?
[23:11] <kiefer> DrWillis: Could you take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54647/ and tell me why it took all that before my wireless would connect?
[23:11] <kiefer> (excuse my noob-ish attatude in konsole :] )
[23:12] <ScorpKing> scott25: sometimes yes. try another disk and see if it works
[23:12] <Dr_willis> I dont do much at all with wireless..
[23:12] <kiefer> Ohk lol
[23:12] <Manad> thanks scorp, but those are the instructions I followed. The first line they tell you to do, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh  , returns "command not found"
[23:12] <kiefer> Can someone tell me why it took all this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54647/ before my wireless connected? :)
[23:12] <fyrmedic> I just installed 64bit Kubuntu. How do I know that both processors are working?
[23:12] <Dr_willis> I think the path to that script has changed recently
[23:12] <Dr_willis> locate install-css.sh
[23:12] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[23:13] <Manad> I did
[23:13] <Dr_willis> is where mine is at.
[23:13] <Manad> I went there manually
[23:13] <Manad> I found the script
[23:13] <Dr_willis> do a sudo bash /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[23:13] <Manad> and typing "install-css.sh" at the console doesn't work, it gives me the same error.
[23:13] <Dr_willis> perhaps
[23:13] <Dr_willis> You need to do ./installwhatever
[23:13] <Dr_willis> if in the same dir
[23:13] <scott25> ScorpKing: im using this badblocks thing and it is just printing random numbers... what do they mean?
[23:13] <Manad> that worked...
[23:13] <Manad> what does "bash" do?
[23:13] <Dr_willis> tells it to run the script. :)
[23:14] <Dr_willis> you really SHOULD be uysing the medibunti repo to install the stuff. Not that script
[23:14] <Manad> the google results don't mention it. I was copying and pasting
[23:14] <sensae> scott25: If badblocks is printing random numbers, IIRC it's printing the sectors that are bad
[23:14] <ScorpKing> scott25: can you pastebin some of it?
[23:14] <Manad> thank you
[23:14] <ScorpKing> scott25: nevermind
[23:14] <Dr_willis> if the script was not executable , then you need the bash command.
[23:14] <Manad> !medibuntu | Manad
[23:15] <ScorpKing> scott25: if you didn't run it with the -s switch then it's badblocks like sensae said
[23:15] <scott25> ScorpKing: can i do something to fix these sectors that are bad
[23:16] <scott25> so far it printer 0 and now its listing the numbers 28 and on (in order), right now it is at 84
[23:16] <Manad> it works now :P
[23:16] <sensae> scott25: Not really. If there are only one or two then you can get tools that hide those sectors
[23:16] <sensae> scott25: So it's printed 28-29-30-.. all the way to 84?
[23:17] <scott25> yes and its still going
[23:17] <scott25> now it is at 100
[23:17] <Paddy_EIRE> hey I installed kde4 from this repo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main I installed it using 'sudo aptitude install kde4-core'  Is it just me or is this extremely barebones?
[23:17] <ScorpKing> scott25: not that i know of. strip the disk (it makes very nice things to put your coffee cup on) an get a new one
[23:17] <JoshOvki> !kde4
[23:17] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:17] <sensae> scott25: Then all those sectors are bad. That pretty much means that whole section of your drive is bad, which means the entire drive is screwed.
[23:18]  * ScorpKing nods..
[23:18] <Paddy_EIRE> JoshOvki, that does not explain or answer the question
[23:18] <JoshOvki> but it points you were to get the answer
[23:18] <sensae> rofl, I got my mouse situation half fixed
[23:18] <sensae> Now the scroll wheel goes back / forward
[23:18] <ScorpKing> hehe
[23:19] <sensae> brb, messing with xorg.conf some more
[23:19] <scott25> ScorpKing: is there a certain type of hard drive that i need to buy
[23:19] <Dr_willis> either ide or sata - depending on your machine. :)
[23:19] <Dr_willis> and of fourse laptops use  the smaller laptop sized ones.
[23:19] <ScorpKing> scott25: i've found that seagate last very long for some reason. they also have a three year gurantee i think
[23:20] <scott25> well i have never bought a hard drive since i haven't had to... so how do i know if i need ide or sata?
[23:20] <Dr_willis> Brand wise. Ive never noticed much of a differance. Ive had different brands die -  Of course in 3 years time i will be on my 3rd pc and have updated the hd's 2x :)
[23:21] <Dr_willis> look at the hd you got and the cables its connected to.
[23:21] <sensae> scott25: Technically, Maxtor are just rebranded Seagate drives, so they're a good bet too. Personally I've had good luck with Western Digital (I have 3 in my system now that have been going for years) but I've heard mixed things about em
[23:21] <FaiDillinGer> hi there
[23:21] <sensae> scott25: You need to look inside your computer. If the drive is connected with this kind of cable: http://www.gshop.com.au/images/ide_133_cable.jpg You need IDE
[23:22]  * kiefer is on his way to becoming a BASH expert - hoorah :)
[23:22] <ScorpKing> scott25: western digital is good as well ;)
[23:22] <sensae> scott: Also known as PATA. If it's connected with this kind of connector http://www.macgurus.com/ccp51/media/images/category/sata/eSATA_TypA_lrg.jpg you need SATA
[23:22] <sensae> brb, restarting X
[23:22] <Dr_willis> amazing how cheap HDs are these days  :)
[23:23] <Dr_willis> more amazing how fast i fill them up
[23:23] <sensae> -sigh-
[23:23] <kiefer> Lmao, I remember buying a PC back in the day with a 500mb Hdd.. DOS used to pwn..
[23:23] <FaiDillinGer> has anyone got a clue on how activating numlock when Xorg starts ??? please ?
[23:23] <sensae> Does anyone know what command in xorg.conf binds the back / forward buttons?
[23:23] <Dr_willis> !numlock
[23:23] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[23:24] <FaiDillinGer> thx Dr_willis
[23:24] <ScorpKing> sensae: i wouldn't go for maxtor. it makes up for 85% of the failed disks i get
[23:24]  * kiefer will brb
[23:24] <Dr_willis> i must be the only person that uses the extra mouse buttons for stuff OTHER then forward/back in the browser. :)
[23:24] <sensae> ScorpKing: Really? Maxtor are literally Seagate drives. They both come from the same shops.
[23:25] <sensae> Dr_willis: What do you use em for?
[23:25] <Dr_willis> sensae,  grenades and medpacks in games. :)
[23:25] <Dr_willis> ive never used them for forward/back in any os. heh
[23:25] <Dr_willis> actually on windows i got one set for teamspeak chat also.
[23:25] <ScorpKing> sensae: i didn't know that. most maxtor drives i see are a lot thinner that seagate so i don't think it's that much the same. ;)
[23:25] <ScorpKing> than*
[23:26] <sensae> Dr_willis: lol, well of course. I'm just used to it in Firefox
[23:26] <Dr_willis> one wonders wher the parts for the hds come from..
[23:26] <Dr_willis> and how these different companies can do that much differently.
[23:27] <kiefer> DrWillis i couldnt care less, my mate works in a dell warehouse, hehe :) free stuff ftw!
[23:27] <sensae> ScorpKing: Well, I may be off about being in the same shops, but that's what I had heard working in a computer shop, and they generally looked exactly the same. I know for a fact Seagate owns Maxtor.
[23:27] <scott25> would it be bad to open my computer case while it is on
[23:27] <Dr_willis> scott25,  not if you are carefull.
[23:27] <kiefer> scott25: yes it would be bad :)
[23:27] <sensae> scott25: You just have to be very careful
[23:27] <Dr_willis> But if its never been open befor.. i would power down. and UNPLUG it from the wall
[23:27] <kiefer> scott25: always remember to wear a static electricity bracelet when opening a PC :)
[23:28] <Dr_willis> if its never ever been opened befor.. you proberly are due for a good dusting out also.
[23:28] <SlimeyPete> I know people who run PCs with the case permanently open
[23:28] <sensae> scott25: If in doubt of yourself, turn it off
[23:28] <SlimeyPete> they tend to wind up full of biscuit crumbs and tobacco
[23:28] <scott25> well if i randomly disconnect you will know i wasn't careful enough
[23:28] <Dr_willis> I find dead flys and moths in mine. :)
[23:28] <kiefer> SlimeyPete: my desktop hasnt had its case on it since the day i got it lol
[23:28] <sensae> kiefer: I've never found an absolute need for an anti-static wristband. You just have to ground yourself on the case first
[23:28] <ScorpKing> sensae: well, that's just my opinion. i still work in a computer shop ;)
[23:29] <kiefer> sensae: true, i got one for free, so i wear ir anyway lol
[23:29] <SlimeyPete> yeah, no need for a bracelet, just touch the case.
[23:29] <kiefer> it*
[23:29] <Dr_willis> stick your tounge to the power supply for 20 sec! :)
[23:29] <kiefer> ...at a M$ convention believe it or not..
[23:29] <kiefer> LMFAO
[23:29] <sensae> kiefer: If I had one I got for free I'd wear it
[23:29] <mefisto__> this is driving me nuts. what determines the kdm login screen resolution? I've edited xorg.conf to only have 1280x1024, but kdm still displays at 1024x768
[23:30] <kiefer> Sensae: Hehe, Yup :)
[23:30] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  you did restart the X server after changing that file?
[23:30] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-backspace
[23:30] <mefisto__> of course. I even did a full reboot
[23:30] <Dr_willis> stand on your head while rebooting? ;)
[23:30] <sensae> So, does anyone know how I can change what mouse buttons do back / forward?
[23:30] <ScorpKing> mefisto__: in /boot/grub/menu.lst there's a kernel option vga=xxx that you can change that i think
[23:31] <ScorpKing> sensae: i've seen mounse button config options on google when i searched for the settings of a ten button mouse once
[23:31] <ScorpKing> mouse*
[23:32] <kiefer> DrWillis: ive found standing on my head solves nothing.. except for what my pc looks like upside down :)
[23:32] <mefisto__> ScorpKing: and it would be vga=1280 1024 ?
[23:33] <ScorpKing> mefisto__: one sec. i might have bookmarked the link
[23:33] <scott25> the hard drive is maxtor... does that tell me which type i need to buy
[23:33] <ScorpKing> scott25: now you know why it doesn't work anymore ;)
[23:34] <scott25> but it doesnt tell me if it is ide or sata
[23:35]  * kiefer will bbs, (Need to goto uni office to pay some fee's tee-hee)
[23:35] <ScorpKing> scott25: ide will be a 40pin connection and sata a thin red or black connection
[23:35] <scott25> can i unplug it while in livecd
[23:35] <matisse> crimsun: "Audacity doesn't support PulseAudio, nor Esound for the moment.    this cant be the solution ...
[23:36] <Psycoshot> Hey, Kubuntu has problems detecting my Logitech USB headset. Does anyone know why?
[23:36] <matisse> :-)
[23:36] <ScorpKing> mefisto__: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[23:36] <mefisto__> thanks ScorpKing
[23:36] <ScorpKing> yw
[23:37] <ScorpKing> scott25: no
[23:37] <FaiDillinGer> yo. i got an external usb harddrive that is constantely pluged in to my computer. but it is not mounted automatically when i boot kubuntu. (the auto option is set in fstab). anyone got a clue on how to solve this problem ? thx
[23:37] <sensae> Yes! I got my mouse working
[23:37] <ScorpKing> :) hehe
[23:37] <sensae> the only thing wrong is that when I middle lcick it will load random URLs instead of giving me a scrolling orb
[23:38] <scott25> i guess i will turn off my computer and take it out and ill come back here on a laptop if i can't figure out the type
[23:38] <ScorpKing> i have to go. the weather is getting bad and i don't feel like having my box struck by lightning. nite guys. have fun
[23:38] <FaiDillinGer> good nite
[23:41] <matisse> crimsun: thanks for the help, but at the moment I won't try pulseaudio. it really has nice feature, but "never change a running system" :-) Would be to much patchwork I think
[23:41] <sensae> Does anyone know how I can change what my middle mouse button -does- in Firefox?
[23:44] <matisse> sensae: it was possible to choose, but now in Vers. 2.x it isn't possible
[23:44] <sensae> Argh
[23:44] <matisse> sensae: but you can change the behavior in about:config
[23:44] <matisse> search for "middlemouse"
[23:44] <sensae> Ah, that should work. Thanks
[23:44] <sensae> For some reason it redirects to a different page, it's rather random and I'm not sure wtf it thinks it's doing, lol
[23:45] <matisse> about:config redirects you ?
[23:45] <sensae> No, middle mouse
[23:45] <matisse> ahh
[23:45] <matisse> i know
[23:45] <sensae> I'm not sure what it does. Right now middle mouse goes to bash.org, lol
[23:46] <matisse> it does a google lucky search with your clipboard content
[23:46] <sensae> Ahh
[23:46] <sensae> middlemouse.contentLoadURL is what controls it
[23:46] <matisse> change middlemouse.contentLoadURL
[23:46] <matisse> right
[23:46] <sensae> Is there any way to set it so I get a scroll ball?
[23:47] <matisse> like in Iexplore ?
[23:47] <matisse> :-)
[23:47] <sensae> Yes, and in Firefox on Windows
[23:47] <Mach3> I finally got the official nvidia driver installed on my system (thanks to envy), now i want to try out some of these "desktop effects" that i should be able to use now.   How do I actually get the effects to work? I see a config utility for them, and under the "Actions" tab there are lots of keyboard shortcuts, but none of these work.  What needs to be done?
[23:47] <matisse> i dont think that its possible
[23:47] <sensae> Bah, I was afraid of that. Oh well, I can live without it I guess
[23:47] <mefisto__> sensae: in preferences, advanced, general tab > "use autoscrolling
[23:48] <matisse> cool
[23:48] <sensae> Thanks much, that works.
[23:54] <rkvirani> yay
[23:55] <rkvirani> I got my BT mouse working on my powerbook in kubuntu :D
[23:55] <rkvirani> right click!!!
[23:56] <atomicpotato> a bittorrent mouse? awesome
[23:56] <rkvirani> atomicpotato: no lol
[23:57] <rkvirani> Bluetooth
[23:57] <atomicpotato> (that was the sound of a joke going over your head :-P)
[23:58] <rkvirani> nohey mhey man, I've heard worse alright, there are some users that are clue less
[23:59] <rkvirani> konqueror i s soo slow
[23:59] <rkvirani> actyually my entire computer is slow running linux
[23:59] <rkvirani> isays the CPU is running at half all the time
[23:59] <rkvirani> 700mhz