[02:44] <profoX`> weirdo: well I was thinking about older cards, because on a newer card you're better off with fglrx (proprietary driver)
[02:44] <Warbo> Problem is, alpha is not accelerated
[02:44] <Warbo> erdrick: yes
[02:44] <profoX`> on my 7500 it works with 3D accel with radeon+dri anyway
[02:45] <weirdo> cause im trying to get xgl/compiz to work
[02:45] <ardchoille> lupine_85: Seems a few people filed the same bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[02:45] <nanno> someone please REMOVE the xserver-xorg-core package from updates! it crashes xorg!
[02:45] <weirdo> well it works.. just laggy
[02:45] <profoX`> nanno: we know..
[02:45] <sethk> nanno, yes, we know
[02:45] <wolfmanz> lupine_85: do they plan on fixing this so we can get that updated xorg?
[02:45] <weirdo> and i get like 1386fps in gnome
[02:45] <nanno> :D
[02:45] <erdrick> Warbo: i got the driver installed but could you tell me how to get OpenGL to use the fglrx driver instead of the mesa ones
[02:45] <Warbo> Compiz is a no-no on DRI for me (alpha is used heavily, which makes it damn slow)
[02:45] <profoX`> nanno: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:45] <haasteem> hi, is it still possible to upgrade from hoary to breezy using the update manager?
[02:45] <sethk> remember my motto, don't upgrade for no reason.
[02:45] <lupine_85> I don't think any developers are awake right now
[02:45] <profoX`> weirdo: I get like 1800 with my radeon 7500
[02:45] <blocky> can someone reccommend a good video editor that could be used to join 2 avi files
[02:45] <lupine_85> there's a bug report, though, so no doubt it'll be fixed asap
[02:45] <Warbo> erdrick: I can't get fglrx to work. That is why I use DRI
[02:45] <weirdo> did you try xgl/compiz?
[02:45] <Ademan> **(I would appreciate some more eyes checking this out)** I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21359
[02:45] <lupine_85> ...before the big morning upgrade, hopefully!
[02:45] <wolfmanz> lupine_85:  cool
[02:45] <nanno> profoX`, yeah i know i fixed it but im sure a lot of people are going to have a headache with this since it will kill their X server ;)
[02:45] <haasteem> !hoary
[02:45] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[02:46] <wolfmanz> lupine_85: thanks for the info
[02:46] <profoX`> nanno: yea i know.. im pissed too..
[02:46] <haasteem> !upgrade
[02:46] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:46] <erdrick> Warbo: will that let me play games ?
[02:46] <Warbo> weirdo: If you look on the AIGLX page on help.ubuntu.com I have left a few extra instructions if you want to follow the forum guide it links to
[02:46] <haasteem> hmm... so i guess yes
[02:46] <profoX`> nanno: this should never have happened if you test the software before you release
[02:46] <nanno> profoX`, but glad to know people know about this already... although i just updated cache and its still there :(
[02:46] <Warbo> erdrick: DRI accelerates 3D, but not alpha (transparency), so it depends on the game
[02:46] <profoX`> nanno: i'm pretty pissed about this bug.. i hope theres a good explanation for it slipping in
[02:47] <nanno> profoX`, aye... im sure there is not :)
[02:47] <sethk> profoX`, somebody made a mistake.  It happens
[02:47] <erdrick> Warbo: world of warcraft and halflife 2 mostly
[02:47] <gnomefreak> what bug?
[02:47] <sethk> that's why I always wait a few days before upgrading when something is released
[02:47] <sethk> everyone should
[02:47] <nanno> gnomefreak, dont update xserver-xorg-core or you wont have X... that bug :)
[02:47] <Singkong2005> Hi, can someone help me? I installed TEA text editor and it shows as installed in Syn Package Manager but I can't find how to run it.
[02:47] <profoX`> Warbo: dont know what that means, but AIGLX runs fine (very fast! even with video playback) on my ati radeon 7500 (radeon+dri)
[02:47] <Warbo> erdrick: They are a little newer than stuff I have tried. Actually I only have one non-Free game on Ubuntu, and that doesn't work
[02:47] <gnomefreak> nanno: ah yes X in dapper
[02:47] <crimsun> that patch is direct from upstream, btw.
[02:48] <Warbo> profoX`: AIGLX runs fine for me, but not Compiz
[02:48] <gnomefreak> nanno: it will be fixed i would say by late tomorrow
[02:48] <profoX`> Warbo: no problems here
[02:48] <profoX`> Warbo: I run aiglx + compiz on my radeon 7500
[02:48] <Warbo> (I had to run AIGLX instead of Xorg for a while until I fixed Xorg)
[02:48] <Krankily> Anyone familiar with the xserver-xorg.core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 update? It seems to have hose my install?
[02:49] <lupine_85> singkong: get a list of the files that were installed by the package (one of the tabs or buttons), work out which one is the binary, and run that (with full path) in a terminal
[02:49] <profoX`> gnomefreak: direct from upstream, what does that mean ?
[02:49] <nanno> gnomefreak, too bad it can't be fixed now by just removing the update
[02:49] <weirdo> Warbo: wow.. seems like a lot of work if something goes wrong
[02:49] <profoX`> Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:49] <sethk> Krankily, yes, it's been happening to everyone
[02:49] <profoX`> Krankily: theres already a bug report
[02:49] <weirdo> Warbo: from the looks of the main page
[02:49] <nanno> profoX`, probably direct from xorg :)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> nanno: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download and install the old version
[02:49] <profoX`> nanno: oh.. well.. i'm NOT happy with it ._.
[02:49] <lupine_85> evil people that they are ;)
[02:49] <dravas> !nvidia
[02:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:49] <nanno> gnomefreak, no no.. i meant removing it from the repos
[02:49] <gnomefreak> sethk: not everyone :) it didnt bother my dapper
[02:50] <Krankily> I'll have to install it again and just avoid the update
[02:50] <Warbo> weirdo: Basically you need to downgrade the driver modules, otherwise Xorg complains about incompatible versions. Took me a while to figure out the cause (although with the recent Xorg update you may have problems anyway :) )
[02:50] <lupine_85> quick, let's all start using "that other X server"!
[02:50] <sethk> gnomefreak, well, many people
[02:50] <Singkong2005> lupine: how do I find the full path?
[02:50] <sethk> gnomefreak, I haven't installed it, so it didn't bother me at all
[02:50] <weirdo> Warbo: i had that trouble today
[02:50] <profoX`> gnomefreak: easier is to: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 :)
[02:50] <lupine_85> it'll be in the file list
[02:50] <gnomefreak> profoX`: there are alot of ways to do it :)
[02:50] <Krankily> I'll assume one can't downgrade the update?
[02:50] <McJerry> what wireless pcmcia card works easiest and best with ubuntu on a laptop
[02:50] <profoX`> gnomefreak: yea but mine's easier :P
[02:50] <sethk> Singkong2005, if you know the file name you can search for it by name also
[02:50] <lupine_85> don't use synaptic so can't help any further
[02:51] <nanno> Krankily, it can easily be downgraded
[02:51] <profoX`> Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:51] <profoX`> Krankily: that will downgrade the package
[02:51] <Singkong2005> lupine: you mean a file list on the program's website?
[02:51] <Warbo> weirdo: I saw it in the updates, but since I use a load of external repositories I didn't want to risk installing a non-Ubuntu version of such an important package. Turns out it IS an Ubuntu package, but a broken one
[02:51] <lupine_85> no, in synaptic
[02:51] <Krankily> ah, same update, different location?
[02:51] <weirdo> Warbo: so much for keeping up to date
[02:51] <nanno> lupine_85, yes.. highlight xserver-xorg-core and go to force version
[02:52] <sethk> Singkong2005, try lupine_85's suggestion.  If you don't get anywhere with it, you can dump the entire file system in date order and look at files that changed recently; it will be one of them
[02:52] <profoX`> gnomefreak: shouldn't the maintainers that package everything for dapper check whether it works or not?
[02:52] <nanno> lupine_85, package -> force version
[02:52] <sethk> profoX`, of course, but it doesn't fail in all cases
[02:52] <Krankily> Mine does not get to grub, so I'll just do a reinstall. :)
[02:52] <lupine_85> nanno: we're after a list of files installed by a particular package in synaptic
[02:52] <gnomefreak> profoX`: they test it yes. and as it didnt affect me it might not of affected them
[02:52] <Warbo> weirdo: I have finally bought into the idea of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Thankfully on the day where "fixing" it breaks it
[02:52] <nanno> lupine_85, aha... sorry
[02:52] <profoX`> sethk: I understand, but this bug seems to affect everyone, atleast I thought that
[02:52] <lupine_85> adept has it, and I vaguely remember it from my gnome days
[02:52] <Singkong2005> lupine: looks like just tea and tea-data. can't see a full path.
[02:53] <profoX`> gnomefreak: oh it didnt affect you..
[02:53] <gnomefreak> nope
[02:53] <lupine_85> then just try running 'tea'
[02:53] <blameless> so, i used software update to update my x11 and now all i get is No Devices Found in the xorg output.  any suggestions?
[02:53] <sethk> profoX`, I don't know exactly why  it affects some, but not others
[02:53] <Warbo> Can anyone test xteddy, since it doesn't work for me on Xorg or AIGLX?
[02:53] <sethk> profoX`, but it wasn't simply a case of not testing the package
[02:53] <bigmarCus_> what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is <IP_ADDRESS>/mp3
[02:53] <helmet> is anybody have problems with th ipw3945 dirvers?
[02:53] <profoX`> gnomefreak: sethk: ok.. then I'm not so mad anymore.. :)
[02:53] <sethk> profoX`, not testing it enough?  obviously, but mistakes happen.
[02:53] <Singkong2005> lupine: did that, (tried to run tea in terminal) doesn't recognise it
[02:53] <nanno> blameless: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:53] <gnomefreak> profoX`: it could be as little as a typo
[02:53] <Krankily> It does install pretty quickly though
[02:53] <lupine_85> try slocate / | grep tea
[02:54] <swarm_> How do I configure ppp_on_boot?
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, lupine_85 if he just installed, slocate won't find it
[02:54] <Krankily> Also, how large a swap file would I want for 1 gig of ram?
[02:54] <Phlosten> this seems to be the place for brokened xservers
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, if it is called tea, you can use:   find / -name tea
[02:54] <Warbo> Krankily: 1GB? Maybe none at all
[02:54] <lupine_85> oh yeah, it's database-driver
[02:54] <McJerry> what wifi pcmcia card works best under ubuntu?
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, if it isn't called tea, and you can't find the installed file list, do a reverse time ordered ls of the common locations for programs
[02:54] <Krankily> So far I have a 1gb swap, 24g / and 24g home
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, if that doesn't work, do a reverse time order dump of the entire file system
[02:55] <lupine_85> McJerry; check the list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:55] <blameless> thanks, i will try that
[02:55] <Singkong2005> I installed a few days ago - found something
[02:55] <sethk> Singkong2005, the entire root tree, actually, which may be several file systems
[02:55] <profoX`> sethk: everything can't be tested on every machine, i know.. especially not with this rapidly evolving open source software.. but it's going to be a major pain for some people that are updating anyway. Why doesn't the repo get a fix so there won't be more people that get the problem?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ok time for bed night
[02:55] <sethk> Singkong2005, if you installed a few days ago, hopefully locate will find it for you
[02:55] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: dpkg -L tea   ?
[02:55] <profoX`> gnomefreak: night
[02:55] <McJerry> lupine_85 tx
[02:55] <sethk> profoX`, I suspect because it's the middle of the night where the developer is
[02:55] <Singkong2005> what'd dpkg do?
[02:55] <lupine_85> np
[02:55] <Zonoid> I need help partitioning. Should I be able to install Ubuntu without damaging Windows by installing it on the "pri/log" partition?
[02:55] <Singkong2005> (slocate is still listing files... lots of them)
[02:56] <lupine_85> atheros gets a good rep
[02:56] <sethk> Singkong2005, no, you do:   locate tea
[02:56] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: you still around?
[02:56] <sethk> Singkong2005, is it listing files with tea in the name?
[02:56] <Singkong2005> yes
[02:56] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: that lists the files in any given package (if that is in fact what you're after)
[02:56] <Warbo> Zonoid: If Windows is your only partition then shrink it "maybe defrag it first) and let the Ubuntu installer use the free space
[02:56] <Warbo> bigmarCus_: nope
[02:56] <lupine_85> xenguy: much better solution :)
[02:56] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/mp3
[02:56] <Xenguy> heh
[02:56] <Zonoid> Warbo: The partition says, "pri/log   3.7 GB   FREE SPACE"
[02:56] <Warbo> bigmarCus_: I am terrible with networking, sorry. And I have never used Samba
[02:57] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: ok
[02:57] <Warbo> Zonoid: "Free Space"? That should be fine
[02:57] <Zonoid> Warbo: Okay. Thanks.
[02:57] <profoX`> sethk: (I would think more people would have access to change it) but anyway.. let's just hope not too many people get affected by the problem (I'm imagining people new to linux that cant get X up anymore and will reinstall ubuntu, or install something else instead)
[02:58] <Singkong2005> thanks Xenguy - the dpkg command gave a tidy little list. Is it "/usr/share/doc/tea" that I want?
[02:58] <sethk> profoX`, true, but one should get into the habit of not installing things the moment they are released.
[02:58] <disastorm> hey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?
[02:58] <sethk> Singkong2005, no
[02:58] <profoX`> sethk: like I said, people new to linux :)
[02:58] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop 6.06 because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> is there aprogram that can be triggered and it turns on and or off xmms
[02:59] <ardchoille> profoX`: Even if they re-install Ubuntu, the xserver-xorg-core package will be taken from the repos, and that package is currently broken. So, people who install Ubuntu today may be screwed before they can even use their box.
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[02:59] <Zonoid> I'm creating the partitions :-). I can't wait to use Ubuntu!
[02:59] <profoX`> ardchoille: which will make them switch to something else for sure (if they can't figure out how to fix it)
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ardchoille: and who upgraded today, have a broken system?
[02:59] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, xmms is a program.  so I don't get the question
[02:59] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: yw - I'm not exactly sure what you want tho :-)
[02:59] <Krankily> If reinstalling and the partitions are set correctly, do I just install over them?
[03:00] <profoX`> MetaMorfoziS: not Everyone, but alot of people
[03:00] <sethk> Krankily, ye
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> sethk i need an other program that controls xmms
[03:00] <ardchoille> profoX`: good point
[03:00] <sethk> Krankily, yes
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> by time
[03:00] <disastorm> hey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?
[03:00] <Krankily> cool, thanks
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> profoX`: it's cool.
[03:00] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, cron can do things for you on a schedule
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i need a guied ver:D
[03:00] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[03:00] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, the "at" shell command can start a program at a particular time
[03:00] <sethk> must be a gui front end to cron around
[03:00] <h00t> i cannot play any movie ... not in "movie player" or "vlan" or "flix" ... the movies just start and then the whole program quits.... can someone help me
[03:01] <Singkong2005> Xenguy, sethk: I want to run the "tea" program.
[03:01] <sethk> Singkong2005, yes, I know.  I've given you several suggestions on how to find the program , and the program name if necessary
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> thx...
[03:01] <eternalswd> I believe gschedule is the gtk frontend to cron
[03:01] <profoX`> h00t: try to use a different video output in the settings of vlc or Mplayer or xine (like xv, x11, gl, gl2..) does that help?
[03:01] <ardchoille> sethk: xterm makes a nice gui front-end to cron ;)
[03:01] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, What video driver are you using?
[03:01] <Singkong2005> (I'm a Linux newbie, pretty much... apart from about 5 line commands I learnt in 1989)
[03:01] <Warbo> !info gnome-schedule
[03:01] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[03:01] <ubotu> gnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 507 kB, installed size 3708 kB
[03:01] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: what output does this give: dpkg -L tea |grep bin
[03:01] <LinuxHelp> whats the binary that returns the number of lines passed to it through stdin?
[03:01] <Xenguy> ?
[03:02] <cafuego> LinuxHelp: wc
[03:02] <LinuxHelp> k
[03:02] <Dartrunner_> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and let it update, rebooted and now I am getting "Fatal server error: no screens found" when X is starting
[03:02] <sethk> ardchoille, that's true
[03:02] <profoX`> Dartrunner: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:02] <cafuego> LinuxHelp: Specifically, 'wc -l'
[03:02] <profoX`> Dartrunner: bug is already filed.
[03:02] <Corporal_Dirge> Dartrunner, You need to configure xorg.conf
[03:02] <h00t> Corporal_Dirge: ... i installed nvidia driver w/ "easy ubuntu"
[03:02] <profoX`> Dartrunner_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:02] <Dartrunner_> kk thanks
[03:02] <sethk> if there is an op here, put that apt-get command, for backing out the bad patch, in the channel topic
[03:02] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:03] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[03:03] <Singkong2005> Xenguy: "/usr/bin" and "/usr/bin/teaed"
[03:03] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, Make sure it's selected in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: if there is a '/usr/bin/tea', then that would likely be it
[03:03] <Singkong2005> Aha! Tea is running!
[03:03] <h00t> what do you mean ... selected...
[03:04] <weirdo> what is tea?
[03:04] <BrandonTheBlack> so nobody can help me with my problem?
[03:04] <profoX`> weirdo: something to drink
[03:04] <weirdo> lol the running kind
[03:04] <profoX`> BrandonTheBlack: I don't understand
[03:04] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, make sure there's a device that's using that as it's option. "nvidia"
[03:04] <sethk> Singkong2005, teaed sounds like a daemon for tea
[03:04] <eternalswd> BrandonTheBlack, is the problem that it can't boot from the DVD drive?
[03:04] <sethk> Singkong2005, try running it
[03:04] <profoX`> BrandonTheBlack: why do you need to mount your dvd drive to install ubuntu?
[03:05] <BrandonTheBlack> eternal: it boots, loads the installer, then tells me it cant mount the drive
[03:05] <sethk> he means that the install fails at the mounting cd/dvd point
[03:05] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, in the terminal type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:05] <sethk> BrandonTheBlack, you can try running the install with dma for the drives disabled
[03:05] <deltab> how is the drive connected?
[03:06] <BrandonTheBlack> sethk, i dont know what that means lol
[03:06] <BrandonTheBlack> deltab: its an ide drive
[03:06] <hovinen> Anyone here know about the problem with the latest update to xserver-xorg-core on Dapper?
[03:06] <sethk> BrandonTheBlack, at the boot prompt, hit f1 and read all the help
[03:06] <h00t> i see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver
[03:06] <deltab> BrandonTheBlack: that :-)
[03:06] <h00t> Corporal_Dirge: i see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver
[03:06] <Singkong2005> Xenguy, sethk, lupine_85: Thanks heaps! I'm going to try and set it up on my panel now so I can launch it easily.
[03:06] <sethk> h00t, yes, nv is the open source nvidia driver
[03:06] <disastorm> hey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?
[03:06] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: yw
[03:06] <wikijeff> I'm having a problem, I think it's specific to OpenOffice, but I'm not sure, where I'll be typing along and suddenly it will randomly paste in some text which I guess I may have come across in firefox. I can't see any pattern in so far as when it happens, but it always happens when I'm typing in OpenOffice.
[03:06] <Krankily> What is the latest nvidia driver, btw?
[03:07] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, Try the nVidia driver and see if that works better.
[03:07] <reiki> Problem: tried to run Synaptic. Password prompt came up. Entered sudo password. Synaptic did not start. No error displayed. Now I can't get it to display pasword prompt. Synaptic appears to be non-functional. help please
[03:07] <eternalswd> hovinen, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:07] <deltab> wikijeff: is it text you've selected?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: laptop?
[03:07] <h00t> so the 'promise' of "easy ubuntu"  isn't to install proprietary but only generic driver ???
[03:07] <wikijeff> BlueEagle, yes a laptop
[03:07] <hovinen> eternalswd, Thanks. I did so.
[03:07] <noddaba> Just installed dapper, and the fonts in the Firefox menubar are aliased (un-antialiased?).  I put gAIM's menu up against Firefox's menu, took a screenshot and zoomed in.  Sure enough Firefox fonts are not being smoothed.  anyone have any ideas?
[03:07] <wikijeff> deltab, it may have been at one point
[03:07] <sizzam> reiki: do this from a command line:   ps -ef|grep synaptic
[03:08] <erdrick> how can you tell if the person you are looking for is on or not
[03:08] <hovinen> Any word on when this update will get fixed?
[03:08] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, When installing an OSS OS it prefers all OSS software and drivers.
[03:08] <profoX`> h00t: easy ubuntu and automatix and that automatic stuff can't always be trusted
[03:08] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: You might have defined a "middle mouse button" are of your touch pad that will paste when you accidentally brush against it.
[03:08] <reiki> !find libinklevel
[03:08] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: I think it's most commonly placed in the top-right corner.
[03:08] <ubotu> Package/file libinklevel does not exist in dapper
[03:08] <wikijeff> BlueEagle, that sounds possible, how can I disable it?
[03:08] <reiki> sizzam: that command appears to indicate synaptic is not a running process
[03:09] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: ie. try clicking the top-left of your touch pad to see if that functions as a middle mouse button (ie pastes)
[03:09] <sizzam> reiki: hmm, interesting
[03:09] <h00t> can someone help me install proprietary driver
[03:09] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, I had to manually install lots of proprietary software by hand. But at least they let you make the choice to lock yourself into that system.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: Hmm.. not sure where to look for that setting. I'll do some googling for you.
[03:09] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: thanks
[03:09] <Dartrunner_> profoX: thanks, worked great
[03:10] <profoX`> Dartrunner_: you're welcome
[03:10] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ seems applicable but doesn't at first glance show how it's configured.
[03:10] <jwise> argh... teaches me to use Xgl on ubuntu...
[03:10] <wolfmanz> after running easy ubuntu do you have to do anything special to activate the ati driver?
[03:11] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[03:11] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, just a second.
[03:11] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[03:12] <weirdo> i'm following this guide.. it's telling me to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:12] <weirdo> is that going to upgrade the stupid xorg core again?
[03:12] <erdrick> so is it spelled drapper or dapper?
[03:12] <lastnode> erdrick, dapper
[03:12] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: Seems to be possible to comment out the event in /dev/input/event* but I'm not sure if that will work with udev
[03:12] <ali1234> TokenBad: is your homedir mounted?
[03:12] <erdrick> wow and all the problems and headachs i could have saved by figureing that out sooner
[03:13] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: You might also want to check your xorg.conf and perhaps trying to comment out the wacom devices in your server layout.
[03:13] <Corporal_Dirge> erdrick, http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=dapper
[03:13] <Corporal_Dirge> Interesting name to say the least. =)
[03:13] <h00t> why then would the damn movies not play ... they are in avi format BTW
[03:13] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: wacom devices in my server layout?
[03:14] <profoX`> h00t: no codecs maybe?
[03:14] <h00t> how do i install codex
[03:14] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: Yes. Did that sound greek to you? ;(
[03:14] <profoX`> h00t: did you install w32codecs and stuff like that?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> :)
[03:14] <profoX`> !w32codecs
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <weirdo> automatix is good for auto installing codecs
[03:14] <profoX`> the first link there
[03:14] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: yes
[03:14] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, Because even if everything else works, the video card needs the video stream in the right format.
[03:14] <profoX`> weirdo: please do NOT advise automatix.. I've had alot of people with problems because they used automatix!
[03:15] <weirdo> o
[03:15] <profoX`> (easy ubuntu is better, but I suggest you just follow the wiki when you need something)
[03:15] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: I'm familiar with xorg.conf, but not the wacom devices in my server layout part
[03:15] <Corporal_Dirge> I favor http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper becuase you pick and choose what to install one by one.
[03:15] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: if you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf you will see three sections called "InputDevice" that has got the wacom driver. They should be stylus, eraser and one more thing that I never remember. I am not sure but synaptic might be using those.
[03:16] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: I for one have removed them from mine but they have been installed by default even on desktop systems.
[03:16] <weirdo> my laptop touchpad is fine if i remove all the wacom stuff
[03:16] <profoX`> weirdo: yea :) I don't know how it's going nowadays, but some of the most respected ubuntu developers advice you to not use automatix, so I think it's best to avoid it if possible
[03:16] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: As weirdo sais. His pad improved. It might be worth a shot.
[03:16] <profoX`> Corporal_Dirge: yea ubuntuguide used to be bad, but it's pretty good nowadays
[03:16] <weirdo> er not improved
[03:17] <weirdo> no change
[03:17] <Corporal_Dirge> weirdo, Because it's a script it doesn't handle errors properly and passes up needed steps.
[03:17] <visik7> new xserver-xorg-core conflicts with my nvidia driver xorg doesn't start anymore
[03:17] <foxjwill> how do i start apache on start-up?
[03:17] <profoX`> Corporal_Dirge: for instance.. i also heard it modifies your sources.list in a very strange way
[03:17] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: the third one is cursor, I should get rid of all three sections?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> visik7: Known bug. Workaround is to downgrade.
[03:17] <profoX`> visik7: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[03:18] <visik7> already downgraded
[03:18] <BlueEagle> how come that bug isn't in topic btw?
[03:18] <visik7> do I need to hold the package ?
[03:18] <profoX`> BlueEagle: no op i think
[03:18] <profoX`> visik7: you downgraded to ubuntu10 ? and you restarted X ?
[03:18] <reiki> !find libvye.so.4
[03:18] <Singkong2005> Hi again... can someone tell me how I change keymapping? I'd like to link my Windows start key to the Applications menu.
[03:18] <visik7> yes now it works
[03:18] <ubotu> Package/file libvye.so.4 does not exist in dapper
[03:19] <lupine_85> ooh
[03:19] <profoX`> lupine_85: why don't you just improve the support in edgy to make more drivers work out of the box :) isn't that the same?
[03:19] <weirdo> ya Singkong2005.. i was wondering the same t hing
[03:19] <ali1234> wikijeff: the touchpad is usually driven by the synaptics driver - not to be confused with the package manager tool. it looks like the only way to fix your problem is to disable tapping altogether
[03:19] <lupine_85> !find rt2570.ko
[03:19] <BlueEagle> visik7:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[03:19] <ubotu> File rt2570.ko found in linux-image-2.6.15-22-386, linux-image-2.6.15-22-686, linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server-bigiron
[03:19] <reiki> anyone interpret this? d:/etc/apt$ sudo synaptic
[03:19] <reiki> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:19] <profoX`> reiki: did you get an update for libvte.so.4 and it broke synaptic ?
[03:19] <lupine_85> profox`: I've been trying :)
[03:19] <profoX`> reiki: u use xgl ?
[03:19] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell reiki about gksudo
[03:19] <reiki> profoX`, not that I know of
[03:20] <profoX`> reiki: well, here's how to fix.. (hold on)
[03:20] <reiki> BlueEagle, good point
[03:20] <BlueEagle> reiki: but that's not the cause of your error.
[03:20] <lupine_85> see http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386 for improved support for four wlan cards
[03:20] <profoX`> reiki: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper
[03:20] <lupine_85> not to mention one config utility
[03:20] <lupine_85> added a note to launchpad about it today
[03:21] <BlueEagle> reiki: The workaround I've recomended is to symlink /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 to point to /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.whateverisinstalled
[03:21] <wikijeff> Ok, I turned off tapbutton2 and tapbutton3 and set MaxTapTime to 0
[03:21] <lupine_85> but things like ndiswrapper and cards that require firmware are complete pains and impossible to do transparently using current procedures
[03:21] <profoX`> BlueEagle: yea but maybe it's better to downgrade the stuff to the default dapper stuff, he probably got the udpates from the compiz/xgl repository
[03:22] <reiki> think compiz did this?
[03:22] <agnes> hey all!
[03:22] <agnes> I'm having a relatively serious problem with my Ubuntu..
[03:22] <BlueEagle> profox`: Well xgl is fun. ;D
[03:22] <agnes> I just ran the updates, which updated xserver-xorg
[03:22] <profoX`> reiki: therere was a problem in the compiz repository (if you use usp or compiz or xgl you might have gotten these updates) they have already been removed, but you have to downgrade if you have problems (or make the link that BlueEagle mentioned) or this: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper
[03:22] <bimberi> agnes: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:23] <bimberi> agnes: you're not alone
[03:23] <profoX`> agnes: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ]
[03:23] <weirdo> is anyone gonna change the files at the repo?
[03:23] <profoX`> weirdo: I hope so ._.
[03:23] <reiki> profoX`, thanks... I don't really use compiz any more. It was pretty and interesting but not very usweful :) I think I'll just remove it
[03:24] <agnes> but now I get '(EE) No devices hmm.
[03:24] <BlueEagle> weirdo: They will be changed when someone gets out of bed tomorrow and read the logs. :)
[03:24] <agnes> it says it can't find that version.
[03:24] <agnes> profoX` if this is such a problem, why not take away the update?
[03:24] <bimberi> profoX`: that might happen
[03:24] <agnes> oops. forgot to add 'core'
[03:24] <weirdo> lol
[03:24] <BlueEagle> agnes: The question should be how the update got there in the first place. :)
[03:24] <weirdo> they're still sleeping
[03:24] <profoX`> agnes: I'm not responsible for it...
[03:25] <janbanan> What is the XGL on ubuntu?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell janbanan about xgl
[03:25] <weirdo> is everyone having problems with the xcore update? or just some/most ppl?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> janbanan: in short: Eye candy
[03:25] <agnes> BlueEagle well, I think it's OK for problems to happen.. but to perpetuate once reported? booo!
[03:25] <BlueEagle> weirdo: I haven't seen it in the norwegian mirror yet.
[03:25] <profoX`> BlueEagle: according to gnome-freak it was upstream, so its caused by xserver-xorg itself, not by the ubuntu patches/packagers
[03:25] <janbanan> Does it work with ATI graphics?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> agnes: The people responsible need to sleep at times too.
[03:25] <profoX`> BlueEagle: I hope they will fix it soon, a bug is already reported
[03:26] <profoX`> janbanan: most ati graphics yes.
[03:26] <janbanan> sweet
[03:26] <agnes> BlueEagle  : )
[03:26] <profoX`> janbanan: XGL is a hack on top of Xorg that uses OpenGL for drawing, in combination with a compositing wm like COmpiz you can get nifty effects, check www.youtube.com and search on "compiz" or "xgl" ;)
[03:26] <agnes> alright.. time to get back to X.. thank you.
[03:27] <jordanau> i have a legal question, i decrypted a enc_grouppwd for vpnc so i could log onto a server i am allowed to connect to, is that legal?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> profox`: Well even if ti was a bug from xorg imo it should be tested with and without the patches before being released into the repos. That's just my opinion. Then again I don't mind waiting a week to be sure to get updates that don't break my system. :)
[03:27] <BlueEagle> profox`: That's just my opinion. I know people that are complaining that the current updates of the repos are too slow.
[03:27] <profoX`> BlueEagle: I agree and thats my opinion too, but it seems like not Everyone has the problems.. gnome-freak said he didn't have the problem for example..
[03:27] <BlueEagle> jordanau: We are not lawyers. ;)
[03:28] <BlueEagle> jordanau: go to ask.slashdot.org :p
[03:28] <janbanan> Is there any reason not to use the 64-bit version of dapper when i have 64-bit processor?
[03:28] <profoX`> janbanan: yes
[03:28] <bruenig> I just did an apt-get update and the xcore update appeared. Should I install it?
[03:28] <profoX`> janbanan: 64bit version will cause problems when you want to run certain 32bit codecs or when you want to run wine to run windows apps
[03:28] <profoX`> janbanan: also no skype and flashplugin for 64bit among other things
[03:28] <Tanker_1> Noob needs help? I installed v5.10 of Ubunto and everything worked great I tried to upgrade to 6.06 LTS and now gnome wont start up, gives me a no screens found error, I've checked around on the net and found several pages but none that helped.
[03:28] <BlueEagle> janbanan: lack of popular software for 64-bit processors is still an issue.
[03:29] <swarm> janbanan, I, too have a 64 bit processor, and was running 64...
[03:29] <jordanau> okay second question once i connect to a vpnd server what is the way to access the files on that server?
[03:29] <profoX`> Tanker_1: yea we know
[03:29] <profoX`> Tanker_1: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ]
[03:29] <swarm> I find it to be a bit smoother and faster than 32-bit, but the software support is lacking
[03:29] <swarm> I could not get my modem to work in 64, after a few weeks of trying...
[03:29] <Tanker_1> phew! i thought it was something i did. :)
[03:29] <janbanan> profox: thanks
[03:29] <Tanker_1> thank you
[03:29] <swarm> so I switched back to 32 which recognized it instantly
[03:29] <profoX`> Tanker_1: big bug that slipped in through upstream :( we have to live with it until it gets fixed
[03:29] <swarm> I would switch back to 64 if my modem would work, though. it is smoother.
[03:30] <profoX`> janbanan: you're welcome
[03:30] <justin_> Tanker_1: As long as you do not fry your harddrive you always have a second chance :P
[03:30] <profoX`> Tanker_1: the command I gave you should fix it though
[03:30] <janbanan> swarm: thanks mate
[03:30] <swarm> No problem, man
[03:30] <Tanker_1> running it now thanks.
[03:31] <Tanker_1> last linux distro I played with was like redhat 6 or 7 :(
[03:31] <zovirl> tonight I turned on my dapper machine & the wifi doesn't work.  nm-applet says "no network devices have been found"
[03:31] <justin_> Redhat.. no good :(
[03:31] <zovirl> I tried restarting the network, rebooting
[03:31] <zovirl> nothing helps
[03:31] <justin_> The only Linux I have stuck with is Ubuntu, usually im on OpenBSD.
[03:32] <weirdo> try clearing the device list?
[03:32] <weirdo> worked for me
[03:32] <Tanker_1> unfortunately I got promoted to management and dont get to do the techie stuff, but a friend (one of my techs) talked me into going to linuxconf in sf the other day, I felt SOOO lost :(
[03:32] <profoX`> Tanker_1: redhat 7.3 .. i hated that one
[03:33] <weirdo> /etc/network/interfaces
[03:33] <profoX`> justin_: openbsd as DESKTOP ? :)
[03:33] <profoX`> i'd only take that for a desktop if i was really really paranoid about security
[03:33] <zovirl> weirdo: just throw it all away?
[03:33] <paradizelost> hey all, i had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password
[03:34] <paradizelost> it's the saved password that was there before
[03:34] <weirdo> well before i couldnt get networkmanager to work
[03:34] <BlueEagle> tanker_1: Does the management job keep you from having a hobby? :p
[03:34] <justin_> profoX`: I am paranoid about security :D
[03:34] <weirdo> i read that if there is stuff in the interfaces file then networkmanager wont touch the eth devices
[03:34] <gpm> hey, anyone know how to convert flash swf files to avi?
[03:34] <Tanker_1> unfortunately i got addicted to Evercrack, then Warcrack :(
[03:34] <justin_> Gpm, well I Know how to convert FLV to MPG.. but swf to avi.. not sure
[03:35] <justin_> try / ffmpeg -i filename.swf -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 output.mpg/avi
[03:36] <bruenig> So install the xserver update or don't install the xserver update, what is the recommendation there.
[03:37] <rummik> hey, what happened to msttcorefonts?
[03:37] <ardchoille> bruenig: if you install it, you'll have to revert and the update will be back in the update list
[03:37] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, it's not there?
[03:37] <justin_> bruenig: Is your Xserver working?, is there an exploit ?
[03:37] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: nope
[03:37] <bruenig> ardchoille, alright seems like a pretty clear no
[03:38] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, looks like it is to me.
[03:38] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: i already did 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:38] <gpm> compresseed swf format not supported :(
[03:38] <lostinc> Is there a significant change when I change kernels from the i386 default kernel to the K7 kernel that lists the Sempron processor?
[03:38] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, maybe you have repo issues.
[03:38] <paradizelost> i had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password
[03:38] <Tanker_1> profoX - Thank you, its back up and running.
[03:38] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: on my laptop it says i have the latest version, on my desktop i didn't have it, so it's not letting me get it
[03:39] <justin_> gpm, Yeah that is what I thought... I do not think you can change SWF to AVI.. well you possibly can but I think you are going to have to do a lot of google searching, or download something for windows - there tends to be more software on windows for that type of stuff
[03:39] <profoX`> Tanker_1: no problem. :)
[03:39] <deXtrezza> hey does anyone know if it's possible to view hdd's that are ntfs?
[03:39] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: yes
[03:39] <profoX`> deXtrezza: what do you mean with view? browse them? sure
[03:39] <deXtrezza> how do i go about doing that?
[03:39] <paradizelost> !ntfs
[03:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:39] <natural20> can anyone help me install vassal on breezy?
[03:39] <lupine_85> lostinc: not really
[03:40] <weirdo> what's ur address
[03:40] <weirdo> lol
[03:40] <lupine_85> a few optimisations that may or may not speed your computer up a bit
[03:40] <profoX`> deXtrezza: manually mount: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[03:40] <profoX`> deXtrezza: on boot up: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[03:40] <lostinc> So I guess what is the point of all the kernel versions then?
[03:40] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: read is possible, write is very iffy and not recommended
[03:40] <swarm> jesus. Everyone posts threads online about making it NOT autoconnect on startup, but no info on how to make it connect on startup... I have even read those threads to try to modify it backwards. Nothing
[03:41] <profoX`> write will come in half a year for sure if you ask me..
[03:41] <profoX`> ntfs-3g looks promising
[03:41] <deXtrezza> hmm i see, so fat32 overall is recommended
[03:41] <kitche> lostinc the point of all the kernel versions is more hardware supported or bug fixes
[03:41] <lostinc> I see.
[03:41] <paradizelost> swarm: what are you trying to have connect automatically?
[03:41] <profoX`> deXtrezza: or just plain ext3 / reiser4 / whatever instead of fat32/ntfs :)
[03:41] <zarstar> hola
[03:41] <paradizelost> wireless?
[03:41] <swarm> dialup.
[03:41] <swarm> simple ole dialup
[03:41] <bruenig> this is probably an anomaly but does anyone know why a single key on the keyboard would stop working but then after a restart would work again?
[03:41] <lostinc> I plan to start using the i686 kernel since I have read that even though I have a AMD Sempron I would be better off with the i686
[03:41] <deXtrezza> ;p i see new to me
[03:42] <paradizelost> ahh. k. don't ask me.  i haven't used that in years
[03:42] <paradizelost> and never on linux
[03:42] <paradizelost> do you have a script that connects?
[03:42] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: should i try installing it again tomorrow?
[03:42] <zarstar> I've I little problem with ubuntu network (wireless) ....can anyone help me?
[03:42] <paradizelost> if u do, just add that to a startup script
[03:42] <paradizelost> zarstar: what's the issue?
[03:42] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, I don't think that would help
[03:42] <paradizelost> !ask
[03:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <swarm> wvdial connects it
[03:42] <zarstar> :) tnx
[03:42] <natural20> seriously.    I need some help installing vassal.  Please?
[03:43] <zarstar> i've just install'd UBUNTU
[03:43] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, does your Synaptic work at all?
[03:43] <paradizelost> swarm: all you type is wvdial?
[03:43] <swarm> yes.
[03:43] <Noah0504> I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a Broadcom card :)
[03:43] <zarstar> and I've setted up the network
[03:43] <eternalswd> do the commands for changing time zone explained at http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html apply to dapper?
[03:43] <vik> Just set up ubuntu-server on an old laptop, but the network has stopped working. It was working on a previous install of ubuntu. PCCard is recognised, module gets loaded, but 'ifup eth0' gives 'no such device'
[03:43] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: yeah, i'll go try that
[03:43] <cafuego> Nothing wrong with broadcom (these days)
[03:43] <justin_> Hmm, KDE is not as bad as it used to be...
[03:44] <justin_> It's doesnt feel like it takes up the whole screen anymore yay..
[03:44] <zarstar> i can do pings but te browser doesn't visualizes the web pages!!!
[03:44] <Noah0504> cafuego: Well, I had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working.  It wasn't hard though.
[03:44] <glyphrider> I just updated xorg-server on a dapper install and now X won't startup....  Anyone else seen this?
[03:44] <paradizelost> swarm: you should be able to add it to the /etc/rc.local script, or possibly someplace else if there's a better place to put startup stuff that someone can recommend
[03:44] <cafuego> Noah0504: The 4318 and 4306 work OK now with the free driver + firmware.
[03:44] <paradizelost> zarstar: sounds like a DNS issue
[03:44] <eternalswd> glyphrider, it's a known bug, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:44] <paradizelost> can you ping something like www.google.com or just an IP?
[03:44] <lostinc> I have a built in SD card reader on my IC Power laptop. When I had Windows XP Home installed it detected it auto but nothing in linux. Can someone help me or point me to a site that might help me out.
[03:44] <zarstar> I thought the same..
[03:45] <zarstar> i can ping www.google.com
[03:45] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: i searched for msttcore fonts on it, and got openoffice.org as the only package listed
[03:45] <paradizelost> zarstar: then it's not dns
[03:45] <zarstar> or www.google.it
[03:45] <rummik> BHSPitLappy:*msttcorefonts
[03:45] <zarstar> so it's not DNS!
[03:45] <zarstar> isn't it?
[03:45] <paradizelost> zarstar: what's the browse3r?
[03:45] <zarstar> firefox
[03:45] <lostinc> Are the msttcorefonts legal without a copy of Windows?
[03:45] <paradizelost> can you do about:mozilla
[03:45] <Noah0504> cafuego: Yeah, I have the 4318 card.  I actually just used a script I found on the fourms.  It set up ndiswrapper... not sure what else it did.
[03:45] <lostinc> Legal as in the USA
[03:46] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, do you have multiverse enabled?
[03:46] <zarstar> mozilla firefox
[03:46] <justin_> lostinc: Probably illegal, however you will not be sued over "fonts" - unless you plan to make a big profit on them
[03:46] <zovirl> weirdo: that worked, thanks!
[03:46] <weirdo> np
[03:46] <zarstar> the browser included by Ubuntu 6.06.1
[03:46] <lostinc> Very true justin_
[03:46] <bruenig> If they know the new xserver update is flawed or what not. Why do they not pull it from the repos?
[03:46] <cafuego> lostinc: The versions in the package are, MS released them. (They changed their mind later, but the original release is of course still valid :-)
[03:46] <glyphrider> Thanks; downgrading now....
[03:46] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: multiverse?
[03:46] <paradizelost> k. can you go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:46] <zarstar> ehm
[03:46] <justin_> lostinc: For personal use, you can use fonts for whatever you like - I mean.. they are simply shapes
[03:46] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, yeah, the multiverse and universe repos.
[03:46] <justin_> lol
[03:46] <zarstar> I'll try, wait a sec :P
[03:46] <BHSPitLappy> !multiverse
[03:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:47] <zarstar> (I'm on another pc!)
[03:47] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, ^
[03:47] <Lingo> !easysource
[03:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:47] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, ^ too
[03:47] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[03:47] <zarstar> putting <IP_ADDRESS> in the browser?
[03:47] <paradizelost> yes
[03:47] <Lingo> !ubotu
[03:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:47] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: lol
[03:48] <eternalswd> how do I check if something is linked to a specific location?
[03:48] <vik> any ideas what would be causing 'no such device' errors when trying to bring up a network interface?
[03:48] <justin_> lostinc: Anyways do as you will with fonts - simply do not sell them as your own, or use them in big for profit projects and you will be find.
[03:48] <paradizelost> vik - the driver isn't loaded
[03:48] <lostinc> justin_ Yes I understand that. As a web developer switching over to solely linux I am sometimes hesitant to use anything microsoft since they once audited my computers as a business they thought I didn't have a license and well guess what I did. It made me really made with MS.
[03:48] <paradizelost> or the device doesn't exist
[03:48] <vik> paradizelost: the kernel module is loaded
[03:48] <paradizelost> do an ifconfig -a
[03:49] <paradizelost> does it show up there?
[03:49] <lostinc> Will be right back must reboot into the i686 kernel now.
[03:49] <justin_> lostinc: F ms.
[03:49] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: all i know is i have the settings from when i put ubuntu on this computer yesterday, maybe a couple extra games and flash player...but that's to be expected :P
[03:49] <vik> paradizelost: interesting - eth1 appears there. But no eth0
[03:49] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, look at those things.
[03:49] <justin_> If MS is going to sue someone over "fonts" that is really really sad.
[03:49] <bruenig> ms should sue linux. they do implement the double click without permission
[03:49] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: yup
[03:50] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, enabling those repositories is one of the first steps you should do.
[03:50] <paradizelost> bruenig: don't give them any ideas
[03:50] <BHSPitLappy> justin_, those are publicly released fonts.
[03:50] <glyphrider> My X has returned to life; thanks to all.
[03:50] <cafuego> bruenig: They can't, Apple used it before they did.
[03:50] <BHSPitLappy> sue "linux"? like, sue the kernel?
[03:50] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: oh, i see
[03:50] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: user submitted stuff ^_^
[03:50] <deXtrezza> how do i install something as root, i couldn't install my nvidia driver
[03:51] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: sudo command
[03:51] <wikijeff> What determines which website icons are displayed in the Bookmarks Toolbar for Firefox?
[03:51] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, you might want to fill the checkmarks in "Add/Remove..."
[03:51] <jordanau> i have my vpnc client running and connected, how do i browse the network i am connected to
[03:51] <BHSPitLappy> as well.
[03:51] <bruenig> wikijeff, it corresponds to the icon that shows up in the addressbar, not certain how that is determined though
[03:51] <chiefinnovator_> Hi!
[03:51] <BHSPitLappy> hi.
[03:51] <chiefinnovator_> anyone interested in helping me with an SSH question
[03:52] <BHSPitLappy> !anyone
[03:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:52] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: yes
[03:52] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: i did one of them already it looks like
[03:52] <weirdo> lol who implemented single click first?
[03:52] <wikijeff> bruenig: yeah I know, but although many websites have an icon in the addressbar most of them dont show the icon in the Bookmarks Toolbar
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, $ ssh localhost
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, gives me
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[03:52] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: Are you ssh'ing from one box to another on the same subnet?
[03:52] <BHSPitLappy> are you supposed to be able to ssh yourself?
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, same box
[03:52] <bruenig> wikijeff, when you bookmark it. Sometimes it doesn't show up immediately. Usually you have to use the bookmark before the icon gets changed from the blank document thing
[03:53] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[03:53] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: You're ssh'ing in the same box? That's not what ssh is designed for
[03:53] <chiefinnovator_> Well, I tried it from my work computer earlier and got the same message
[03:53] <justin_> Has anyone else noticed that XFCE4 is slower then KDE now?
[03:53] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, ha, I know I just figured it would let me rule out firewalls, etc
[03:53] <zarstar> paradise, i can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:53] <ali1234> TokenBad: did you check that the user's home directory exists?
[03:53] <wikijeff> bruenig: ok, thanks
[03:53] <justin_> Not at first but run XFCE4 as your df winmanager for a while, and it starts to really slow down...
[03:53] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: The remote box needs to be running an ssh server, then you need to do ssh user@host to start an ssh sesion
[03:54] <paradizelost> try pinging www.cnn.com, and put the ip address you get in the address bar
[03:54] <TokenBad> ali1234, he updated from breezy to dapper and this started
[03:54] <vik> justin_: how long you been running it for?
[03:54] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, I think it used to ask me to enter my user name
[03:54] <ali1234> TokenBad: so, is his home directory still present?
[03:54] <TokenBad> ali1234, yes...
[03:55] <ali1234> TokenBad: well then, best advice, is to rename the gnome settings folder, then gnome will recreate it
[03:55] <CrazyMO> anyone report xserver dying on an amd64 box after latest updates?
[03:55] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, So I should try it from a different computer?
[03:55] <natural20> so... does anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?
[03:55] <profoX`> alright i'm going to bed
[03:55] <profoX`> bye ppl
[03:55] <bruenig> CrazyMO, everyone
[03:55] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: yes
[03:55] <chiefinnovator_> Ok, I'll be back in a bit
[03:55] <zarstar> :S it seems I can't ping www.cnn.com :S
[03:55] <chiefinnovator_> thanks
[03:55] <CrazyMO> how do I downgrade it?
[03:56] <ali1234> TokenBad: if that makes it work, then you can start to copy back the settings from the old folder. if it still desn't work, then you have more serious problems
[03:56] <ardchoille> !ssh
[03:56] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:56] <paradizelost> zarstar: try it w/ google.com
[03:56] <vik> any ideas why my PCCard ethernet comes up as eth1, despite there being no eth0?
[03:56] <ardchoille> !ssh > chiefinnovator_
[03:56] <ali1234> vik: sure there's no eth0? ifconfig -a
[03:56] <zarstar> in the browser?
[03:56] <vik> ali1234: no eth0
[03:57] <paradizelost> zarstar: yah, ping the site, put the ip into the browser
[03:57] <Genfoo> how can I undo the latest xserver update?
[03:57] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[03:57] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[03:57] <_tcc> Does Dapper ship with madwifi-old or madwifi-ng?
[03:57] <zarstar> i can ping www.google.it
[03:57] <paradizelost> zarstar: k. put that ip into your browser
[03:57] <zarstar> and www.google.com
[03:57] <Terlmann> 700 people! *freaks out again*
[03:58] <Genfoo> thanks bimberi
[03:58] <CrazyMO> ty
[03:58] <zarstar> "firefox browser web"
[03:58] <bimberi> Genfoo: np :)
[03:58] <deXtrezza> what is system utility 'ld'
[03:58] <zarstar> no problem with that
[03:59] <paradizelost> zarstar: hmm.
[03:59] <paradizelost> that's odd
[03:59] <zarstar> the browser shows correctly
[03:59] <zarstar> the google page
[03:59] <Geoffrey2> I just love program developers who don't believe it's necesarry to tell anyone else how to use their program...especially when they're charging you for it
[03:59] <natural20> anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?
[03:59] <ranunculoid> Is there a repository I can get the latest libxine builds for ubuntu?
[03:59] <zarstar> but I can't ping www.cnn.com :S
[03:59] <paradizelost> zarstar: but does it resolve to an IP?
[04:00] <zarstar> nada
[04:00] <paradizelost> hmm
[04:00] <bkudria> i have configured my laptop to work with my external lcd using nvidia's twinview...is there a way to switch from yusing both screens to useing just the laptop one?  currently, i have another metamode, but when i switch to it, it pans across a larger virtual screen... any ideas?
[04:00] <zarstar> no response
[04:00] <paradizelost> this is a linux box riht?
[04:00] <zarstar> ubuntu
[04:00] <zarstar> 6.06.1 jjust installed
[04:00] <paradizelost> well, i dunno
[04:00] <ranunculoid> zarstar: no response from cnn.com for me either.  :S
[04:01] <ranunculoid> Try pinging google.com
[04:01] <zarstar> mmm
[04:01] <ranunculoid> Always works for me
[04:01] <paradizelost> ranunculoid: i've had him through all that
[04:01] <zarstar> not a matter, it works
[04:01] <vik> zarstar: I can't ping cnn.com. Some common sites block ping probes
[04:01] <paradizelost> ranunculoid: it doesn't even resolve to an ip for cnn.com
[04:01] <zarstar> okok
[04:01] <Terlmann> 6.06 stinks compared to 5.12(without ANY updates)
[04:02] <vik> Terlmann: Amen to that
[04:02] <ranunculoid> Does anybody know where I can get xine 1.1.2 for ubuntu?
[04:02] <justin_> Terlmann: Why?, because it does not include GCC by default?
[04:02] <zarstar> it's so strange :S
[04:02] <zarstar> what could I do?
[04:02] <ranunculoid> I need it to play FLAC files
[04:02] <jordanau> how do i view a vpn after i have connected to it
[04:02] <justin_> 5.12 was not good, except for having GCC by default
[04:03] <paradizelost> jordanau: a vpn is a network connection
[04:03] <zarstar> ever seen something like that?
[04:03] <Madpilot> Terlmann, what's 5.12? There was an Ubuntu 5.10...
[04:03] <paradizelost> it's not a file or a program
[04:03] <Corporal_Dirge> bkudria, As far as I know, you need to restart X to change to using just 1 monitor.
[04:03] <ubuntu> what is X server and how do i exit it so i can install my nvidia driver?
[04:03] <justin_> Ubuntu, you do not need to exit X..
[04:03] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: the X server is your graphics
[04:03] <deXtrezza> well the terminal says i need to
[04:03] <paradizelost> justin_: to install the NVIDIA drivers, you do
[04:03] <FirstStrike> ctrl alt tab
[04:03] <zarstar> what I could friends?
[04:03] <deXtrezza> hmm
[04:03] <shawnr_> ubuntulog, just install driver.. then press 'ctrl+alt+backspace'
[04:03] <justin_> Ubuntu, simply point xorg.conf to your new driver, and press -ctrl-alt-backspace, to restart it
[04:03] <FirstStrike> that will kill x
[04:04] <justin_> paradizelost: Really?
[04:04] <FirstStrike> er
[04:04] <FirstStrike> backspace
[04:04] <ranunculoid> ubuntu: restart your computer and select recovery mode from the list of options in GRUB
[04:04] <justin_> paradizelost: Wow that bites
[04:04] <jordanau> after connected to a server remotely with vpnc, how do i view the data on the server?
[04:04] <bkudria> Corporal_Dirge: no special work-arounds? bummer...
[04:04] <paradizelost> justin_: you need it to install the driver
[04:04] <Terlmann> in 5.12 via ac'97 busted afted a ubuntu update , and 6.06 doesnt install right the first 2 times, doesnt yet have the libs to do a proper media experience... l
[04:04] <justin_> Well then praise Radeon
[04:04] <zarstar> could I reinstall smthing? :S
[04:04] <Sid> Hi guys.
[04:04] <paradizelost> jordanau: depends on how the data is there, is it on a fileserver, sql server, terminal server, what?
[04:05] <Sid> Anyone here get "Nvidia Tv-out" working in Totem options?
[04:05] <vik> I been having major ac97 probs with recent kernels
[04:05] <jordanau> paradizelost, i signed in through a cisco vpd client
[04:05] <swarm> So if I remotely start a torrent in Lynx via a SSH program.... and I close the SSH program
[04:05] <chiefinnovator_> Ok everyone I'm back
[04:05] <zarstar> hola chief
[04:05] <weirdo> it's funny how my laptop lists every device as from ati
[04:05] <jordanau> paradizelost, except i used vpnc
[04:06] <swarm> and I re-login to SSH.. how do I re-open the lynx on the screen?
[04:06] <weirdo> modem, sound card, etc
[04:06] <zarstar> i'm going mad
[04:06] <swarm> to monitor it
[04:06] <ali1234> swarm: run it in screen
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> I tried ssh from a different computer same intranet deal
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> same problem
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[04:06] <paradizelost> jordanau: that's just the way you access the network, that says nothing about how the data is accessed
[04:06] <Corporal_Dirge> bkudria, NVidia may have somthing special, I've been working with xorg for a few months trying to get my ancient laptop ati to do dual monitors.
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> Is there a log file somewhere I should check?
[04:06] <swarm> ali1234, I am using SSH.... I cannot load a screen via putty
[04:06] <TokenBad> ali1234, what is the gnome settings folder named?
[04:06] <ali1234> swarm: yes you can, it's command line
[04:07] <ali1234> swarm: screen <the command>
[04:07] <jordanau> paradizelost, okay maybe this helps, for windows computers they go start > run > \\cadcfiles
[04:07] <swarm> What do you mean?
[04:07] <swarm> Screen lynx www.bleh.com ?
[04:07] <paradizelost> jordanau: ok, so that's a file server
[04:07] <ali1234> swarm: yeah pretty much. without the capital letter
[04:07] <paradizelost> go places -> network servers
[04:07] <chiefinnovator_> maybe I'll try fsk
[04:07] <swarm> right
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> command not found :-(
[04:08] <swarm> now how do I get back into it?
[04:08] <xnull192> http://pastebin.ca/143478 (any ideea) ?
[04:08] <swarm> when I close it
[04:08] <swarm> when I close putty
[04:08] <vik> swarm: run screen. To detach the screen, just close the putty window (or ctrl-A then d)
[04:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Does Ubuntu have anything capable of using WPA2?
[04:08] <swarm> ah
[04:08] <swarm> k
[04:08] <vik> swarm: screen -r reattaches
[04:08] <ali1234> swarm: it will load up like normal... if you type "ctrl-a d" you get back to the initial shell. then when you log in again, type "screen -r"
[04:08] <paradizelost> jordanau: go places -> network servers        and try to to browse to it
[04:08] <zarstar> how is it possible? I ping www.google.com
[04:08] <paradizelost> !screen
[04:08] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:08] <zarstar> but in the browser it doesnt work!!!
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> how do I do it then?
[04:08] <vik> screen rocks
[04:08] <swarm> oh, nice :)
[04:08] <swarm> very nice
[04:09] <swarm> indeed, screen rocks
[04:09] <paradizelost> swarm: is there a reason you are using putty instead of an xterm?
[04:09] <oscuro> guys, my printer is just nuts.
[04:09] <zarstar> but www.google.it works :S
[04:09] <kjm> oscuro : valium?
[04:09] <oscuro> it's printing weird characters :(
[04:09] <paradizelost> oscuro: that's a bad driver
[04:09] <swarm> paradizelost, I just said putty for ease of explanation. I am in reality using xterm :P
[04:09] <oscuro> what's a ppd file??
[04:09] <kjm> oscuro : speaking in tonges is it?
[04:09] <coreyt> Has anyone gotten lmsensors working with a nforce 430 chipset?
[04:09] <TokenBad> ali1234, what folder do I rename?
[04:09] <paradizelost> swarm: that makes a difference
[04:09] <chiefinnovator_> too late, I have file system da .. . connection lost
[04:09] <paradizelost> :P
[04:09] <oscuro> I have a hp deskjet 610c
[04:09] <zarstar> qlke italiano?
[04:09] <jaytee> damn! screwed up my xwindows!
[04:10] <jaytee> running on a latitude d620
[04:10] <oscuro> and the system recognizes the machine.
[04:10] <swarm> now, if someone else wants to view that screen, can they view it at the same time?
[04:10] <oscuro> but...
[04:10] <paradizelost> swarm: as the same user, they can type screen -x
[04:10] <oscuro> it prints weird stuff..
[04:10] <swarm> nice :)
[04:10] <paradizelost> otherwise you need to set screen up a certain way for multi-user mode
[04:10] <crouchingMonkey> how do i check if all of my drivers are up to date ?
[04:10] <kjm> oscuro : Speaking in tonges and acting bipolar is the sign of a problem.  The first thing todo is to get the printer to admit it has a problem.
[04:10] <unix_infidel> can someone here paste bin their vimrc and gvimrc please?
[04:10] <paradizelost> oscuro: that's the #1 sign that it's got the wrong driver loaded
[04:10] <kjm> oscuro : second thing to do is reinstall the drivers for the CORRECT model printer.
[04:10] <swarm> this should work just fine :)
[04:11] <jaytee> I had been using the nvidia drivers... then updated xorg stuff
[04:11] <oscuro> ...ok I'll reinstall again.
[04:11] <PurpleTails> DOes Ubuntu mess up dial-up connections?
[04:11] <vik> unix_infidel: what do you wanna do?
[04:11] <swarm> sure is slow though :P
[04:11] <jaytee> hoisted by my own petard!
[04:11] <oscuro> but it was ok :(
[04:11] <unix_infidel> vik: test out a theory.
[04:11] <ugarit> how does one get mp3 files to play on ubuntu? I don't mean application because none of them play mp3's
[04:11] <ugarit> version 6.06.1
[04:11] <kjm> oscuro : mental diseases often attack in late age.
[04:11] <swarm> ugarit, , 64-bit or 32-bit?
[04:11] <paradizelost> oscuro: turn it off for a while, and turn it on, holding the cancel button
[04:11] <zarstar> it's incredible, I can reasearch with www.google.it but the links don't work!
[04:11] <paradizelost> oscuro: it is a VERY old printer
[04:11] <jaytee> sure... mp3s paly fine
[04:11] <kjm> !media > ugarit
[04:11] <vik> unix_infidel: a mathematical, computing, or social theory? (my money is on social)
[04:11] <ali1234> TokenBad: anything that's .gnome .gnome2 and anything that links to it
[04:11] <shawnr_> !mp3
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <bruenig> !mp3 > ugarit
[04:11] <ugarit> swarm 32bit
[04:12] <unix_infidel> vik: just cat /etc/vim/* and pastebin.
[04:12] <kjm> !media
[04:12] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:12] <unix_infidel> vik: of the above, id say computing.
[04:12] <TokenBad> so all the gnome folders?
[04:12] <kjm> !codecs > ugarit
[04:12] <ali1234> TokenBad: i just thought of something... if you reinstalled the breezy over the old install, maybe the permissions on the homedir are incorrect
[04:12] <swarm> ugarit, you will need codecs, check out www.ubuntuforums under the howto tips & tricks section, get automatrix or easy ubuntu
[04:12] <ugarit> swarm thanks
[04:12] <swarm> np
[04:12] <jaytee> what's the default inittab level y'all have set in /etc/inittab?
[04:12] <ali1234> TokenBad: so make sure his user has rw permission on those folders first
[04:12] <vik> unix_infidel: ain't got vim set up on this computer; my normal workstation is out of action atm
[04:12] <jaytee> 2?
[04:12] <ugarit> what an impressive version of linux, wow!
[04:13] <TokenBad> ali1234, its not that he reinstalled breezy..he updated from breezy to dapper
[04:13] <unix_infidel> anyone else willing to do a simple pastebin: just cat /etc/vim/* and put the output into a pastebin please.
[04:13] <unix_infidel> !pastebin
[04:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:13] <Co2> Hello, is there a way to start the file browser with root access like with sudo on console?
[04:13] <paradizelost> TokenBad: did you run a gui program w/ sudo and not gksudo?
[04:13] <bruenig> co2, gksudo nautilus
[04:13] <ugarit> has anyone tried xgl?
[04:13] <swarm> Is there a better command-line torrent client than lynx?
[04:13] <paradizelost> ugarit: yes, it's very nice
[04:14] <swarm> ugarit, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:14] <netsui> ugarit: here here. Very very nice
[04:14] <jaytee> could someone look in /etc/inittab and tell me the default init level?
[04:14] <swarm> I could not get xgl to work with my ATI x300
[04:14] <paradizelost> swarm: i think azureus has a plugin for CLI access
[04:14] <natural20> so why does ubuntu have a GUI if you can't move stuff to folders using it
[04:14] <jordanau> paradizelost, it doesn't show up in that window
[04:14] <swarm> paradizelost, however to install that, I would need to be at the graphical part. :(
[04:14] <TokenBad> all he did was the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then rebooted
[04:14] <Madpilot> natural20, huh?
[04:15] <Artimus> Is there a way to blacklist a PCMCIA module?  My friend has a card that uses axnet_cs.  However, it loads pcnet_cs and then messes the card up.  I tried adding pcnet_cs to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail
[04:15] <larson9999> jaytee: 2
[04:15] <paradizelost> swarm: yes, sadly
[04:15] <Co2> Thanks bruenig
[04:15] <dasos> is there a way to set a lightweight desktop manager and restart X into it?
[04:15] <bruenig> natural20, you can if you want. But generally they try to make it a bit more difficult than drag and drop in order to help compensate for user error. natrual20, do gksudo nautilus and you can use the gui to move stuff to folders
[04:15] <vik> swarm: does lynx do torrents now?
[04:15] <paradizelost> swarm: ubuntu center has a torrent part
[04:15] <paradizelost> it's web-accessed
[04:15] <paradizelost> can be done remotely
[04:15] <jaytee> thanks... that's what I thought
[04:15] <swarm> vik, evidently :P
[04:15] <swarm> seems to be doing it for me
[04:15] <larson9999> vik: i wondered that too.   it's been a while since i've used lynx though
[04:15] <paradizelost> jordanau: what didn't come up?
[04:15] <zarstar> tnx to everyone
[04:16] <zarstar> here is 4.15 o'clock
[04:16] <vik> swarm: I've just been using the vanilla bittorrent package.
[04:16] <larson9999> jaytee: the reason run levels are different for different distros is beyond me.  i should read up on that.
[04:16] <vik> swarm: provides curses-based and headless clients
[04:16] <Warbo> zarstar: Wow you're up late!
[04:16] <vik> swarm: I've heard good things about bittornado too
[04:16] <paradizelost> Warbo: or early
[04:16] <Warbo> zarstar: It's only 3:15 here :)
[04:17] <ranunculoid> Same here Warbo
[04:17] <zarstar> :S i will not sleep :(
[04:17] <zarstar> fucking wireless!
[04:17] <ejay69> hello
[04:17] <ali1234> vik: vanilla bt saturates my upload. bittornado allows to cap it. apart from that it's almost identical
[04:18] <vik> ali1234: vanilla bt can limit uploads
[04:18] <ejay69> can i ask some help in here about ubuntu?
[04:18] <Warbo> My wifi router died :( (and as soon as Ubuntu stopped crashing when accessing Wifi)
[04:18] <Warbo> ejay69: That's why we're here
[04:18] <bruenig> utorrent through wine dominates both vanilla bt and bittornado
[04:18] <BlueEagle> jaakkos: read up on runlevels here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[04:18] <vik> bruenig: except when you need a non-gui version
[04:18] <ejay69> thanks warbo
[04:18] <ali1234> oh come on, i'm not installing wine just to download a file :)
[04:18] <Madpilot> ali1234, Gnome's stock bittorrent has upload throttling, either by # of connections or by connection speed...
[04:19] <bruenig> vik, ah yes
[04:19] <swarm> I am going to try torrentcraft
[04:19] <swarm> i mean
[04:19] <_sojourner> how do I get dapper ro redetect my hardware ? i changed my monitor and need to update my config
[04:19] <swarm> nixtorrent
[04:19] <bruenig> bik, I didn't realize that is what you were getting at. Coming in and out of the channel.
[04:19] <bruenig> vik*
[04:19] <ali1234> i havn't used a commad line torrent app for a while, i just use the gnome "whatever happens when you double click the torrent" now :)
[04:19] <ejay69> I am newbie and would like to ask some questions on setting up an ubuntu server that will handle DNS and e-mail
[04:19] <vik> _sojourner: for that try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:19] <bruenig> !ask
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <ejay69> lol
[04:19] <Winbox1> I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'  Can anyone help me?
[04:20] <Sid> Has anyone here ever gotten Totem's "nVidia Tv-out" working?
[04:20] <BlueEagle> well that's an understatement right there. "...chkconfig tool, which keeps its configuration settings in a mildly elaborate arrangement under /etc/rc.d/."
[04:20] <ejay69> is there a postfix guru here?
[04:20] <denver> is anyone aware of a xen package for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Winbox1> I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom' **
[04:20] <bruenig> !repeat
[04:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:20] <denver> or would i be best installing that by hand
[04:21] <pfalcone> did something happen to the xorg update today?
[04:21] <wnoise> hey guys.  anyone have an idea why an update to the latest binaries in Dapper results in nvidia drivers ("nvidia", that is) no longer recongise my GeForce 6600?
[04:21] <bruenig> pfalcone, yep
[04:21] <BlueEagle> wnoise: Known bug
[04:21] <pfalcone> looks like i ain't alone :)
[04:21] <bruenig> !xorgbug
[04:21] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[04:21] <BlueEagle> wnoise: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[04:21] <genfoo> I hooked up my laptop to my samsung lcd tv and I can't play movies on the TV
[04:21] <bruenig> !patience > bruenig
[04:21] <BlueEagle> bruenig: ahh, goodie.
[04:21] <wnoise> BlueEagle> cheers!
[04:21] <genfoo> the place where the image should be simply is black
[04:22] <genfoo> I guess framebuffer doesn't like my TV :P
[04:22] <verbose> genfoo: lower the refresh rate
[04:22] <verbose> to 60Hz
[04:22] <genfoo> it should be 60
[04:22] <kjm> !patience
[04:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:22] <BlueEagle> genfoo: Are you sure your gfx driver allows for overlay?
[04:22] <kjm> heh, I need that bot in my office.
[04:22] <verbose> genfoo: can you see other stuff on the tv
[04:23] <genfoo> yea
[04:23] <genfoo> *yes
[04:23] <verbose> but when you start to play the movie it stops?
[04:23] <natural20> i'm a complete linux/ubuntu/programming neophite - is there anyone who can help me install java and/or VASSAL on breezy?
[04:23] <genfoo> everything is just right but I cannot play movies
[04:23] <genfoo> I've tried numerous programs
[04:23] <genfoo> I got the codecs
[04:23] <genfoo> I got sound too
[04:23] <swarm> my movies play perfectly =D
[04:23] <ali1234> genfoo: try a different output driver? what program are you using?
[04:23] <BlueEagle> genfoo: Are you sure you've got the right video channel tuned then?
[04:23] <genfoo> :(
[04:23] <zarstar> guys
[04:23] <genfoo> I can see what I am typing right now on my TV
[04:24] <zarstar> i've the key
[04:24] <genfoo> everything is OK but the movie area itself
[04:24] <swarm> vik, any tips on how to download using torrent faster?
[04:24] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell natural20 about java
[04:24] <zarstar> i've been searching for a new dns, I tried
[04:24] <_xepher> um... why is xepher here
[04:24] <_xepher> and why do we have the same info
[04:24] <ali1234> genfoo: for example, in mplayer... mplayer -vo x11 - will use software playback
[04:24] <BlueEagle> natural20: I hope the /msg from ubotu can help.
[04:24] <zarstar> <IP_ADDRESS>.... and it works!
[04:24] <zarstar> now I can go to sleep!
[04:24] <vik> swarm: huh?
[04:24] <Sid> natural20: hold on
[04:24] <Warbo> _xepher: Did you disconnect suddenly?
[04:24] <natural20> blueeagle: do i have to type !java?
[04:25] <genfoo> alil234 thanks but I also have another minor problemo ---- mplayer has no installation candidate.... what's up what that
[04:25] <_xepher> warbo: must be it
[04:25] <ubuntu> hi guys
[04:25] <ubuntu> whats up?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> natural20: ubotu sould have sendt you that message.
[04:25] <swarm> vik, got any ideas on how to make torrent download faster? :)
[04:25] <Sid> ah
[04:25] <BlueEagle> !java
[04:25] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:25] <genfoo> use swarming
[04:25] <genfoo> :P
[04:25] <Sid> n/m
[04:25] <bruenig> swarm, more seeds
[04:25] <swarm> bleh :P
[04:25] <ubuntu> swarm:  faster connection, look for seeds :)
[04:25] <swarm> yeah, i got that taken care of
[04:25] <swarm> 10mbps
[04:25] <ali1234> genfoo: no idea... you can change output driver with vlc also... dunno the command line for it though
[04:25] <ubuntu> nice :D
[04:25] <Warbo> _xepher: use "/msg nickserv recover name password" and "/msg nickserv release nam password" (I forget which order though)
[04:25] <swarm> 300 seeds, but it's only going 59k/sec
[04:25] <ubuntu> how much fast more u want :O
[04:25] <genfoo> ok I got vlc thanks
[04:25] <ubuntu> damn it dude i'm on 10kvps
[04:25] <ubuntu> :P
[04:26] <vik> swarm: heh - never been a problem for me. Stuck on 512kbps :(
[04:26] <ubuntu> btw hi swarm  :)
[04:26] <_xepher> Warbo: there we go, thx
[04:26] <genfoo> aah fubar I'm going to compile mplayer from source >:|
[04:26] <naa> foobar!
[04:27] <weirdo> anybody tried installing compiz-vanilla?
[04:27] <swarm> hi ubuntu :)
[04:27] <Warbo> fubar=feed up beyond apparent repair
[04:27] <ubuntu> wierdo not me sir :(
[04:27] <Warbo> (feed up should be effed)
[04:27] <ali1234> genfoo: probably you need to add some repository to get mplayer installed... also i have a dim memry that the package is not called "mplayer" but "mplayer-somethingorother" so ry searching it in synaptic, if you havn't
[04:27] <weirdo> got broken packages.. grrr how to fix?
[04:27] <noodle> when is xorg going to be fixed :(
[04:27] <naa> foobar=music player for windows
[04:27] <ubuntu> i just tried installing gentoo
[04:27] <Xnix> what package do i reconfigure to have it reconfigure Xorg for me?
[04:27] <ubuntu> dang that OS i 1 pain in the (_|_)
[04:28] <weirdo> i tried using fix function in synaptics.. but nothing
[04:28] <swarm> Xnix, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <naa> heh ubuntu
[04:28] <naa> more like
[04:28] <Xnix> swarm thanks :)
[04:28] <genfoo> alil234 I know I also can't do that thing youre thinking of I know what you mean
 i just tried typing up gentoo
[04:28] <swarm> np
[04:28] <bruenig> !no > bruenig
[04:28] <genfoo> alil234 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html
[04:28] <genfoo> its not working either
[04:28] <ubuntu> it took my partitions away, all data bye bye
[04:28] <ubuntu> :((
[04:28] <vik> oh well eth1 it is
[04:28] <DrBanzai> Can anybody help me troubleshoot my serial ports, please?
[04:28] <compguy1011> i have an imac and use osx for my normal stuff, and have a dual boot of windows for gaming, ive been into linux before but never stayed with it, how is it thies days?
[04:28] <genfoo> alil234 its the GPG keys I think
[04:28] <ali1234> vik: you can rename it with ifrename, if you really have to...
[04:29] <ubuntu> compguy1011: go for it
[04:29] <wnoise> DrBanzai> I can give it a try;  what's the issue?
[04:29] <bruenig> compguy1011, great as always
[04:29] <vik> DrBanzai you'll need to be more specific
[04:29] <ali1234> or did i dream that?
[04:29] <ubuntu> new OS r more friendly and kool
[04:29] <vik> ali1234: no real issue running as eth1.
[04:29] <genfoo> uhh
[04:29] <bruenig> bit more user friendly if that's the kind of thing you go for
[04:29] <genfoo> mkay
[04:29] <vik> ali1234: just curious why
[04:29] <ali1234> vik: module alias perhaps?
[04:29] <xxpor2> omg why wont gaim stop flashing
[04:29] <vik> ali1234: when it was running normally before I re-installed
[04:30] <ali1234> vik: look in /etc at all the files relating to modules, modprobe etc
[04:30] <ubuntu> xxpor2:  cause u have enabled it in options ;)
[04:30] <vik> ali1234: and now 2 of the 3 NICs I've tried no longer work, when they did before.
[04:30] <DrBanzai> Well, wnoise and vik, I'm trying to connect to my homebrew MP3 player.  It does not need a null modem adaptor.  It works fine under hyperterminal.  I can't get it to do anything under minicom or gtkterm.  It's a regular serial terminal connection...
[04:30] <Pf123b> Guys, need help with wireless networking:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1406953...I have to go now, pelase post in there, if you have any ideas.
[04:30] <ubuntu> where is uboto :)
[04:31] <vik> ali1234: the things is I never touched any module settings before, and it just worked. now it doesn't just work
[04:31] <ubuntu> ubotu: hi :)
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <bruenig> !ubotu
[04:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:31] <ubuntu> haha
[04:31] <ubuntu> man he is a funny helping bots
[04:31] <ali1234> vik: maybe they need firmware or something? i don't know much about pcmcia...
[04:31] <compguy1011> ubuntu, so, where will my advantages and disadvantages be in using ubuntu over os x
[04:31] <cmatheso1> i have a laptop, but whenever i try to run memtest86 or ubuntu (or windows), it crashes a little way in... the computer just restarts.  any idea what could be happening (it doesn't seem to be related to cpu temp.)
[04:31] <bruenig> compguy1011, the doc menu gives you cancer
[04:31] <bruenig> dock*
[04:32] <compguy1011> ??
[04:32] <compguy1011> how so? lol
[04:32] <ubuntu> compguy1011: well it is secure.   gr9 tools and lots of them , lot of man /help out there
[04:32] <bruenig> is that what it is called, I believe so
[04:32] <ubuntu> :)
[04:32] <compguy1011> ya, dock
[04:32] <compguy1011> its not that bad, lol
[04:32] <vik> ali1234: just don't get why it worked then (on a 5.10 system) but not now on 6.06. But I can't really be bothered with it now.
[04:32] <ali1234> compguy1011: with ubuntu you will never never miss the menu by a few pixels, loose focus of the curent app, and spend 10 minutes trying to figure out where the "file" menu went
[04:33] <ubuntu> i got a ?
[04:33] <ubuntu> any1 also tried other different managers for ubuntu
[04:33] <swarm> 52 kb/sec - weak.
[04:33] <ubuntu> like i have xfce4
[04:33] <vik> DrBanzai: I'm assuming you have the baud rate, bits, parity, etc set correctly?
[04:33] <compguy1011> ubuntu, so whats the latest version of ubuntu now?
[04:33] <DrBanzai> vik, Yes, I do
[04:33] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, 6.06
[04:33] <ubuntu> compguy1011: Ver 6.06 TLS i think :)
[04:34] <bruenig> compguy1011, you should look at some screenshots of dreamlinux. Looks just like OSX, http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html
[04:34] <natural20> sid: you got something for me?
[04:34] <compguy1011> what is the code name for it
[04:34] <ubuntu> dapper
[04:34] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, Dapper Drake
[04:34] <swarm> anyone here use xgl/compix with ati x300?
[04:34] <compguy1011> ah, not beta anymore
[04:34] <swarm> compiz
[04:34] <ubuntu> no beta :)
[04:34] <vik> Isn't it 6.06.1?
[04:34] <compguy1011> i liked that screen flip deal
[04:34] <ubuntu> full fledged os :)
[04:34] <Sid> natural20: I was going to, but it looks like someone else beat me to it. That is, if you have no more questions; otherwise I'm happy to help.
[04:35] <bruenig> 6.06.1 has all the updates. so you want have to download 190+ MB of updates
[04:35] <shawnr_> Is there a way to use wget to query HTML code from a url from inside a bash script?
[04:35] <vik> DrBanzai - does the serial port work under linux with any other serial devices?
[04:35] <ubuntu> shawnr_: yes sir
[04:35] <shawnr_> yay ;p
[04:35] <shawnr_> how ?
[04:35] <ali1234> shawnr_: wget | grep ... etc
[04:35] <shawnr_> htm
[04:35] <shawnr_> hrm*
[04:36] <DrBanzai> vik, Well, it did work with a modem
[04:36] <shawnr_> can a string var in bash hold that much data?
[04:36] <ubuntu> it should
[04:36] <ubuntu> worth a hot ;)
[04:36] <ubuntu> shot*
[04:36] <ali1234> shawnr_: string var? pipe it...
[04:36] <Anubuntu> useful people, can anyone here help me with installing halflife 2 episode 1 in cedega (I am using Ubuntu)
[04:36] <vik> DrBanzai, so if you plug the modem in, open minicom on the port, and type 'AT' does it respond 'OK' ?
[04:37] <shawnr_> I want to get the etire page in a string and then parse it for youtube links
[04:37] <shawnr_> ;p
[04:37] <DrBanzai> vik, Lemme try
[04:37] <ubuntu> it can be done , use pipes
[04:37] <_azrael__> Anubuntu: Even if you're running ubuntu, the people who sold you cedega are probably going to know more, just as a warning.
[04:38] <mely> mplayer
[04:38] <Anubuntu> _azrael__, nevermind I found the cedega irc channel
[04:38] <ubuntu> haha
[04:38] <ali1234> shawnr_: wget -O - http://whatever/ | grep 'pattern that matches the links'
[04:38] <compguy1011> DrBanzai, if i install ubuntu, i should get the x86 version right? anyone here install ubuntu on an intel mac?
[04:38] <Sid> Anubuntu: assuming you have the latest engine patch, Cedega should have pre-defined settings for Half-Life 2 (and its ilk)
[04:38] <shawnr_> hrm k
[04:38] <oem> hello all
[04:38] <shawnr_> thanks
[04:38] <oem> ?
[04:39] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, Well, yeah, if you have an x86 CPU...I'm thinking there are tricks you need to do to get it on the intel mac though
[04:39] <ubuntu> well later guys ,bbl
[04:39] <ubuntu> tc all and god bless :)
[04:39] <oem> How can I change my screen resulution in Gnome? right now it is set at 1024X768 where I wnat it to be atleast 1280X768
[04:39] <compguy1011> any rooms that deal with that that u know of?
[04:40] <bruenig> god bless, hmm offensive
[04:40] <ubuntu> offensive?
[04:40] <ubuntu> y is that/
[04:40] <bruenig> indeed
[04:40] <ali1234> oem: system->preferences->screen resolution
[04:40] <wizard> anyone has that xorg-server problem?
[04:40] <DrBanzai> vik, No, nothing, and the lights on the modem don't blink either
[04:40] <bruenig> it is pretty obvious, no need to fill the room up with offtopic stuff though
[04:40] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, try #mac
[04:40] <ubuntu> bruenig:  huh ?
[04:41] <ubuntu> whatever dude :p
[04:41] <Dev05> wizard, I thought you had already solved it... Didn't you?
[04:41] <natural20> i can't upgrade from breezy (NVIDIA driver problem with dapper), anyone know how i can install firefox 1.5?  the stuff i've found online doesn't help - i don't know how to implement it.
[04:41] <bruenig> darwin bless bye
[04:41] <ejay69> how can i allow dial up user access their mail on my server?
[04:41] <vik> DrBanzai : Hmmm... you got a stock kernel or rolled your own?
[04:41] <DrBanzai> vik, Well, it's the 686 kernel
[04:41] <wizard> yes  i did, but was curious if anyone had side effects
[04:41] <adammichaelroach> greetings, I just did an update and there was one update: the xserver-xorg-core, after installation i restarted and now my x server is dead telling me there are no screens found
[04:41] <shawnr_> ali1234, wget -O - http://www.google.com/index.html | grep http://www.google.com/intl/    -   doesn't work
[04:41] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix
[04:41] <ubotu> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[04:41] <bruenig> do that
[04:41] <ejay69> how can i allow dial-up users access (receive/send) emails on my ubuntu server?
[04:41] <Dev05> natural20, As far as I know, that version of Firefox won't run on Breezy.
[04:41] <vik> DrBanzai: check the config to see if serial support is enabled/modularised and the module is loaded
[04:41] <DrBanzai> vik, No, I'm sorry, it's the k7 kernel...I have too many computers...
[04:42] <oem> I went there, but there is now where to change that. All I have there is the listing of the chosen one by the system which is: 800 X 600, 1024 X 768. I cannot change it from there.
[04:42] <vik> DrBanzai: I hear ya...
[04:42] <wizard> getting mltiple esd's and sluggish performance
[04:42] <DrBanzai> vik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules
[04:42] <Dev05> oem, If you know what you're doing, I guess you can change your resolutions directly from xorg.conf...
[04:43] <ejay69> wow... can i really get help here?
[04:43] <ali1234> shawnr_: cos that string isn't contained on the page...
[04:43] <kitche> ejay69: do you mean direct dial or no
[04:43] <ejay69> anyone to talk to about ubuntu server here?
[04:43] <vik> less /boot/config-KERNELVERSION and look for SERIAL
[04:43] <bruenig> !patience > ejay69
[04:43] <shawnr_> ali1234, its the begining of a link on the page
[04:43] <baconbacon> #ubuntu-server
[04:43] <xepher> ejay69: /join #ubuntu-server
[04:44] <kitche> ejay69: hello guess you won't anwser me then I won't anwser you
[04:44] <oem> Devof: what commant should I type to get to xorg.config. I'm new to linux
[04:44] <ejay69> yeah dial up via modems
[04:44] <ejay69> can i message you kitchie?
[04:44] <ali1234> shawnr_: sure it's not a relative link? in which cse the whole thing wont be in the html
[04:44] <bruenig> oem, if you are new to linux directly editing xorg.conf is probably not a good idea
[04:44] <kitche> ejay69: you would set up ppp up
[04:44] <bruenig> oem, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would likely be a better option for you
[04:45] <ejay69> ppp server?
[04:45] <Dev05> oem, I got late here, so, tell me exactly what you need. As bruenig said, if your new and you're not really sure of what you'll be doing, well...
[04:45] <natural20> Dev05: i've found some webpages that describe a process, for installing FF1.5 on breezy, but I'm too ignorant of unix/linux to use the info.
[04:45] <ali1234> shawnr_: i just checked, and it is. try grep 'intl'
[04:45] <ejay69> can i msg you kitchie?
[04:45] <kitche> ejay69 sure
[04:45] <bruenig> natural20, why no update to dapper?
[04:45] <Dev05> natural20, Which pages have you found?
[04:46] <bruenig> natural20, you should be able to just download whatever they have on the firefox website. Extract it to /opt and run it from there. I believe firefox distributes frozen binaries. Not sure though. Been a long time since I haven't gotten firefox from apt-get
[04:46] <VE> hellow i'm having problems getting 5.1 sound working in dapper
[04:46] <bruenig> not frozen binaries. precompiles binaries
[04:47] <bruenig> precompiled*
[04:47] <tyler_d> what program will open .eml attachments, evolution unexpectedly closes when I try it ???
[04:47] <adammichaelroach> bruenig, thanks for the help
[04:47] <VE> my sound card is turtle beach montego
[04:47] <Artimus> I've got my soundcard modules loaded, but the /dev device nodes aren't created.  Is there a command I can run to have them automatically created (like they should be)?
[04:47] <oem> When I use KDE I can go to screen resulution and change it to 1280 X 768 but in GNOME you do not have that option except the one that display there
[04:48] <oem> I want to change the screen resolution from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 768
[04:48] <ejay69> i am planning to set up a mail server for our network
 my problem is that the boss wants to dialup to another ISP and then access her mailboxes via eudora on my server
 would that be possible?
[04:48] <ejay69> opps
[04:48] <oem> You know what let me install Kubuntu then I will do it from there
[04:48] <ejay69> sorry folks
[04:48] <Dev05> oem, So it works perfectly on KDE?
[04:49] <bruenig> oem, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Accept defaults until you get to screen resolution part. Arrow down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it, then finish out selecting defaults. After that it should be an option in the screen resolution dialog from system>preferences>screen resolution in theory
[04:49] <shawnr_> ali1234, ok i got it...
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Hello!
[04:50] <AWOSDev> I'm new to Ubuntu, but not to Linux.
[04:50] <niall> what pro do i need to browse the content of my mobile for ubuntu
[04:50] <bruenig> AWOSDev, what do you need help with
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Wireless
[04:50] <AWOSDev> I haven't done Wireless LANs with Linux
[04:50] <shawnr_> ali1234, now.. one more thing.. is it possible to get the ouptut into a string variable if i use this inside a bash script?
[04:51] <bruenig> !wireless
[04:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:51] <tyler_d> anyone know how to open and view a .eml attachment
[04:51] <tyler_d> ??
[04:51] <ali1234> shawnr_: yes, like this: VARFOO = `wget...`
[04:51] <shawnr_> hrm... k thanks!
[04:51] <niall> anyone know what programs/drivers i need for my mobile phont which connects via usb cable to comp for ubuntu
[04:52] <niall> *phone
[04:52] <rikai> niall, be patient.
[04:52] <ali1234> shawnr_: but you should be able to do it without variables... probably using sed
[04:52] <AWOSDev> bruenig, thank you.
[04:52] <rikai> niall, what mobile do you have?
[04:52] <Wind> can i play CS with ubuntu
[04:52] <ali1234> niall: what kind of phone?
[04:52] <niall> samsung
[04:52] <Wind> normal cs
[04:52] <rikai> niall, model?
[04:52] <bruenig> tyler_d, try downloading it to your machine and then opening it with an email client like evolution or thunderbird
[04:53] <shawnr_> ali1234, what im going for is getting that grep output, stripping it down to just the links, then access the links one at a time... i guess putting them into an array first
 1 sec,
[04:53] <bruenig> as in right click on it and hit open with thunderbird or whatever client you use
 sgh-e330
[04:53] <ali1234> shawnr_: you can pass the whole list of links back into wget without much parsing... don't need to do it 1 at a time
[04:53] <ardchoille> Is there something like Coppermine photo gallery in the repos?
[04:54] <kitche> tyler_d it could be that you need a unarchiver
[04:54] <VE> Hello, i'm having problems getting my turtle beach motego to output 5.1 sounds. I CAN get 4 of the channels and the sub to work, but i cant get the center channel to give out sound. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong and/or could anyone provide me some help
[04:54] <AWOSDev> I read the wireless documentation online and it still isn't working.
[04:54] <oem> Thanks guys
[04:54] <leboff> is it possible to add debian repositories to ubuntu apt?
[04:54] <shawnr_> ali1234, the problem is that its giving me some html code along with it.. not just a clean list of links
[04:54] <_tcc> AWOSDev, join the club =)
[04:54] <ardchoille> leboff: It's not recommended
[04:54] <ali1234> shawnr_: wget will ignore that... it's designed to spider pages anyway
[04:54] <leboff> ardchoilee: why not?
[04:55] <bruenig> leboff, I believe so. Just edit your sources.list. However repos with the same packages might not be a good idea
[04:55] <ardchoille> leboff: Because it';s not good to use debian packages on Ubuntu
[04:55] <AWOSDev> So what am I supposed to do?
[04:55] <leboff> ah, ok, thanks.
[04:55] <shawnr_> ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)
[04:55] <bruenig> AWOSDev, that is all I got. Re ask your question, somebody else might know
[04:56] <AWOSDev> It's a Linksys WPC54G v3.  Ubuntu detected it as a Broadcom 4318.
[04:56] <AWOSDev> It says "Access Point: Invalid" and I can't find anywhere that I'm supposed to put the MAC address into
[04:56] <Anon6638> so i made the mistake of updating xorg, now i can't start x server when i reboot
[04:56] <cafuego> AWOSDev: Load the firmware package; disbale ndiswrapper, reboot.
[04:56] <_tcc> Is wireless functionality going to be completely redone?
[04:56] <cafuego> AWOSDev: You need to run 'sudo iwconfig ethX ap any'
[04:57] <rikai> niall, sorry, dont know.
[04:57] <kitche> yeah witht he broadcom chipsets you don't need ndiswrapper anymore
[04:57] <Anon6638> "No devices detected\nFatal server error: no screens found"
[04:57] <rikai> VE, i've got your blue. :<
[04:57] <AWOSDev> cafuego: Error for wireless request "Set AP Address" (8B14) : SET failed on device eth1; No such device.
[04:57] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix Anon6638
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgbugfix Anon6638 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > Anon6638
[04:58] <cafuego> AWOSDev: Do you have the firmware?
[04:58] <DrBanzai> vik_, Any ideas?
[04:58] <jdahm> does ubuntu use udev or devfs by default?
[04:58] <ranunculoid> !xorgbugfix > ranunculoid
[04:58] <jdahm> (Im too lazy to check)
[04:58] <AWOSDev> cafuego, I don't know how to check that.
[04:58] <Dev05> AWOSDev, What is what you need? I've been trying to do wireless for more than three months.
[04:58] <natural20> can't up date to dapper because of NVIDIA driver issues.  the following pages are walkthroughs for installing <ff1.5 on breezy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=398484> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion> <http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/upgrading-to-firefox-15-in-ubuntu.html> <http://devhen.wordpress.com/2006/05/11/howto-upgrade-to-firefox-15-on-ubuntu-510-breezy-badger/>  I
[04:58] <natural20> 'm too ignorant to use these sites effectively - I have almost no knowledge of unix/linux - and what little I do know is confouned by Ubuntu's weird su rules.  Can someone help me install firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[04:58] <cafuego> jdahm: udev; devfs was deemed broken a few years ago and never fixed.
[04:58] <shawnr_> ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)
[04:58] <leboff> bam
[04:58] <ali1234> shawnr_: hmm seems like you can't do it
[04:58] <leboff> go it
[04:59] <leboff> sudo dpkg -i --force-depends
[04:59] <AWOSDev> Dev05, I need to know why it doesn't work in Ubuntu.
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, there isn't, really, a weird su rule
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, that's a misconception.
[04:59] <lupine_85> ranculoid: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:59] <ali1234> shawnr_: if you can strip the html and produce a file with urls one per line, then you can pip it into 'wget -i -'
[04:59] <erofee> natural try apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:59] <bruenig> natrual20, I am not running breezy but it is probably pretty straight forward. Let me get the package first
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, what is true is that, in one (and _only_ one) of the install options, the root password is not set
[04:59] <fix> Is anyone able to help me set up a wireless USB device for my other computer
[04:59] <ali1234> shawnr_: but that breaks if there's html mixed in
[04:59] <Dev05> AWOSDev, It doesn't work? What are you trying to do that doesn't work?
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, you can set it.  there is nothing different about ubuntu w.r.t. su
[05:00] <AWOSDev> Well it wouldn't set the access point, so I unplugged it and plugged it back in.  Now Ubuntu doesn't even know it exists.
[05:00] <lupine_85> fix: which card?
[05:00] <sethk> natural20, with the nvidia thing (from nvidia's web site) you simply do  ./filename (I forget the exact filename) and it runs the installer
[05:00] <lupine_85> or dongle, rather :)
[05:00] <sethk> natural20, nothing to it
[05:00] <Dev05> AWOSDev, ifconfig
[05:00] <ali1234> shawnr_: hang on... wget -F -i - should do it
[05:00] <AWOSDev> I tried to reboot and it just froze
[05:00] <fix> Lupine, WG111T
[05:01] <AWOSDev> So I'm rebooting the long way :P
[05:01] <fix> "Wireless USB Adaptor"
[05:01] <Dev05> AWOSDev, What's the output of the ifconfig command?
[05:01] <vik_> DrBanzai: sorry, switched computers and lost a bit there. what was the latest?
[05:01] <baconbacon> natural20: i'm pretty sure that if you really need ff1.5 and youre not comfortable with linux yet, you should "install" it to your home dir
[05:01] <bruenig> natural20, ok open up a terminal and do cd /opt
[05:01] <DrBanzai> vik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules
[05:01] <bruenig> or you can do what baconbacon says
[05:01] <vik_> ah
[05:01] <DrBanzai> vik_, You said to make sure that the modules were loaded, and I asked how to do that
[05:01] <sethk> natural20, as for firefox, the download from the mozilla.org web site only has to be extracted to some directory
[05:01] <ali1234> shawnr_: it may be easiest to do this entirely using wget, check the wget manual page
[05:02] <bruenig> natural20, open up a terminal and cd to where ever you want to install it
[05:02] <baconbacon> if someone wants to walk him through, fine, but i'm burned
[05:02] <shawnr_> ali1234, did that last one work?
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, say you follow baconbacon's advise and make a directory $HOME/firefox
[05:02] <lupine_85> fix: what does lsusb say about the device?
[05:02] <AWOSDev> Dev05, my laptop is almost done rebooting
[05:02] <natural20> breunig: done
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, then you extract the files into ~/firefox  (~ == $HOME)
[05:02] <ali1234> shawnr_: are you registered? if so /msg me
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, then you run it by typing ~/firefox/firefox
[05:02] <bruenig> natural do wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-US
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, and you are done
[05:02] <silver_cpu> hi all!
[05:02] <silver_cpu> does anyone here have any experience with video capture?
[05:03] <silver_cpu> i'm trying to get my ati tv-wonder pro to work
[05:03] <Dev05> AWOSDev, oh, OK. When you're done you can paste-bin the output so it's easier to read (instead of on the channel).
[05:03] <sethk> bruenig, it's a hell of a lot easier to just go there with the browser and click on the link
[05:03] <silver_cpu> the video works great, but the audio is nonexistant
[05:03] <niall> how can i see which usb port my phone is plugged into and how can i detect it
[05:03] <sethk> niall, dmesg
[05:03] <BHSPitLappy> whoops.
[05:03] <AWOSDev> Dev05, ifconfig doesn't list my eth1 WLAN card.
[05:03] <genfoo> what are the alsa dev pkgs?
[05:03] <sethk> niall, do dmesg, look at the end of the listing, then turn the phone on, do dmesg again
[05:03] <bruenig> sethk, tis but then again, it is pretty damn easy to download it extract it and then double click on the binary that says firefox, he wasn't able to do that
[05:03] <AWOSDev> Dev05, iwconfig does.  Is that what you want?
[05:03] <Dev05> AWOSDev, it should normally be something like ra0.
[05:03] <BHSPitLappy> when I moved, I accidentally copied my home/user/ contents to the new /home
[05:03] <genfoo> what are the alsa dev pkgs?
[05:03] <BHSPitLappy> and I can't sudo now to fix it
[05:03] <Dev05> AWOSDev, Paste-Bin all the output.
[05:04] <vik_> DrBanzai: if your using one of the ubuntu kernel packages you should be OK
[05:04] <sethk> niall, at the end you'll get some additional lines due to the usb device being detected
[05:04] <AWOSDev> Dev05, Okay.
[05:04] <josie> i got a message saying updates were available, so i installed them, and it said it needed to restart. so i restarted, and now i'm getting the error "no devices found" when X tries to start
[05:04] <nzx> hey, what program do i use to edit partitions on kde ?
[05:04] <bruenig> it is easier to know what directory he is doing it in so that I don't have to wonder where he chose to download it to. If it is on the desktop or where ever he  might put it
[05:04] <sethk> bruenig, to me, typing firefox is a lot easier than trying to learn a file application just to double click on it.
[05:04] <josie> any ideas?
[05:04] <natural20> bruening: i get: cannot write to 'firefox setup <IP_ADDRESS>.exe' permission denied.  should i have sudo'ed?
[05:04] <DarkMageZ> josie, the new xserver-xorg-core package causes issues for some people
[05:04] <sethk> bruenig, that's true
[05:04] <erofee> josie, so X is disabled?
[05:04] <josie> DarkMageZ: oh
[05:04] <DrBanzai> vik_, I am
[05:04] <sethk> natural20, that's not what you want
[05:04] <josie> erofee: yes
[05:05] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[05:05] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[05:05] <sethk> natural20, two problems.
[05:05] <josie> thx
[05:05] <sethk> natural20, the first, that's the wrong file, it's an exe and obviously for windows
[05:05] <natural20> i am a man nearly reduced to tears.  i just want to check my email.
[05:05] <bruenig> natural20, if you are doing it in /opt, which is the purpose of that directory. For just this reason, then you would do sudo. But others seem to think the /opt directory is bad. I defer to them I guess
[05:05] <stiv2k> how do i delete stuff off my "Places" menu in GNOME?  there's a whole list of FTP servers on it that dont work anymore
[05:05] <sethk> natural20, second you are trying to write it to a directory for which you don't have write privileges
[05:05] <lupine_85>  fix: hmm. looks like there's no native linux driver, so it's an ndiswrapper job
 im finding it hard to see the phone or any change "dmesg"
[05:05] <bruenig> .exe, the link I gave you was for .tar.gz
[05:05] <Sid> natural20: what's wrong? is it still that java thing?
[05:05] <sethk> niall, possibly it isn't being detected
[05:05] <natural20> i wish i knew
[05:05] <vik_> DrBanzai: does /dev/ttyS0 (or your chosen port) exist?
[05:06] <lupine_85> download the latest version of the drivers from Netgear, and the latest version of ndiswrapper from their site, and put them together
[05:06] <lupine_85> fingers crossed, it'll work
[05:06] <DrBanzai> vik_, Yes, it does
[05:06] <stephans> hi, does anyone know how to get 3d accel working on a dell 700m??? I lost this when I swiched to Ubuntu... Gogle Earth is sloooooow.... and chomium too
 is there anthing i can do or is there something missing in the way of a driver
[05:06] <fix> i did lupine, it doesn't show up
[05:06] <vik_> DrBanzai: any writable by you? (I'm assuming you're using the first serial port?)
[05:06] <DrBanzai> vik_, I wonder if it's a permission thing...
[05:06] <vik_> DrBanzai: that's what I'm just thinking...
[05:07] <vik_> DrBanzai: try minicom as root
[05:07] <bimberi> stiv2k: go to Places -> Network, right-click and 'unmount volume' the unwanted ones
[05:07] <sethk> niall, possibly.  have you used any other usb device with the ubuntu install?
[05:07] <vik_> DrBanzai: or rather sudo
[05:07] <sethk> niall, you may have to load usb kernel modules
[05:07] <silver_cpu> anyone here familiar with tv capture?
[05:07] <bimberi> stiv2k: Network *Servers*
 yeah it picks up the webcma no sweat
[05:07] <John[1] > Hello all
[05:07] <stiv2k> bimberi: thanks
[05:07] <DrBanzai> vik_, When I do cd /dev, then ls -l ttyS0 I get: crw-rw----  1 root dialout 4, 64 2006-08-21 21:40 ttyS0
[05:07] <niall> *webcam
[05:07] <sethk> niall, ok
[05:07] <leboff> so my apt now seems to think i have a broken package.. is there anyway to get it to ignore that?
[05:08] <stephans> is there a video card configuration tool for ubuntu?
[05:08] <bimberi> stiv2k: yw :)
[05:08] <skaller> Hi, I justr installed latest Xcore update, trashed my X can someone help
[05:08] <bruenig> natural20, do you still want to install ff 1.5?
[05:08] <sethk> niall, then, at an absolute minimum, you should get detection messages from the driver, with dmesg, after connecting the device and turning it on
[05:08] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > skaller
[05:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell skaller about xorgbug
[05:08] <natural20> bruenig: please
[05:08] <lupine_85> fix: have you tried http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[05:08] <leboff> silver_cpu .. i've had some attempts.. but my card is too obscure.. what are you lookin for?
[05:08] <lupine_85> might succeed
[05:08] <skaller> hang on I tell exact error
[05:08] <fix> lupine: let me go look at that thank you
[05:09] <bruenig> natural20, ok it is going to have to be in your home directory because they seem to not like it being in /opt and also that helps a lot with permission issues
[05:09] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, then it looks like it's not compatible
[05:09] <silver_cpu> leboff: i'm looking to get sound from my ati tv-wonder pro
[05:09] <skaller> can't find symbol __glXLastContext
[05:09] <vik_> DrBanzai: are you part of the dialout group? Just try 'sudo minicom' and see if that works  firstly
[05:09] <silver_cpu> leboff: video comes through really well, but audio doesn't
[05:09] <John[1] > Someon willing to help me out with an install isse?
[05:09] <John[1] > issue?
[05:09] <DrBanzai> vik_, Still nothing, and minicom still says it's offline
[05:09] <skaller> in libGLcore.so
[05:09] <natural20> bruenig: so replace /opt with /home?
[05:09] <leboff> #video4lin
[05:09] <leboff> oops
[05:09] <sethk> John[1] , ask a more specific question and you'll find out
[05:09] <AWOSDev> Dev05, http://pastebin.com/772963
[05:09] <vik_> DrBanzai: have a look in /var/lock. anything related to ttyS ?
[05:09] <bruenig> natural20, natural20, just open up a fresh terminal, you will be in the right directory
[05:09] <silver_cpu> leboff: my card uses an interconnect cable to send audio out of the capture card to the sound card's line in, and i've got my sound card's line in up (volume-wise), and the other card's line out up
[05:09] <AWOSDev> Dev05, since I had to type everything into my desktop, I didn't do lo (I'm pretty sure that lo works :P )
[05:10] <Dev05> AWOSDev, Working on it :)
[05:10] <DrBanzai> vik_, Yup
[05:10] <bimberi> skaller: you should have a couple of /msg's from ubotu with instructions
[05:10] <silver_cpu> leboff: thanks, i'll visit that chan and see what happens
[05:10] <bruenig> natural20, do "wget http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-US"
[05:10] <skaller> k thx lookiung
[05:10] <Dev05> AWOSDev, Would you mind doing this through PM? Less noise.
[05:11] <AWOSDev> Dev05, yeah how does that work?
[05:11] <leboff> silver_cpu: its #v4l not video4lin
[05:11] <John[1] > Okay, sorry.  I'm trying to install the lamp server per the directions at http://howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06
[05:11] <DrBanzai> vik_, That could be left over from when I had it set up as a dial in server
[05:11] <Dev05> AWOSDev, First you have to register. Then you can PM anyone.
[05:11] <sethk> John[1] , that's better, but I still haven't seen a question
[05:11] <AWOSDev> Dev05, register?  I already have with Ubuntu.  I have to register with freenode?
[05:11] <John[1] > I'm down to the part where I can install the ubuntu desktop
[05:11] <vik_> DrBanzai: dial in?
[05:12] <Dev05> AWOSDev, yeah.
[05:12] <vik_> DrBanzai: that process wouldn't still be running would it?
[05:12] <AWOSDev> Dev05, okay I will now.
[05:12] <Dev05> tell AWOSDev about register
[05:12] <DrBanzai> vik_, I'm not sure...lemme check
[05:12] <skaller>  Launchpad is offline at the moment for maintenance. It should be back, better than ever, soon. Thanks for your patience.
[05:12] <skaller> wonderful
[05:12] <vik_> DrBanzai: kill anything that might be holding the serial port, delete the lock file if its still there, then try minicom again
[05:12] <bruenig> natural20, tell me when that finishes
where normally are usb ports and devices mounted at
[05:12] <sethk> niall, /media/usbXXXXX
[05:13] <vik_> Grrrrrrrr. X just died
[05:13] <bimberi> !xorgbugfix
[05:13] <ubotu> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[05:13] <bimberi> skaller:  ^^^^^
[05:13] <sethk> niall, the XXXXX of course varies with the device
[05:13] <AWOSDev> Dev05, I can't find it on their Web site.  Where is it?
[05:13] <natural20> bruenig: finished
[05:13] <Dev05> !register
[05:13] <bruenig> natural20, do "tar xf firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz" this will extract the file
[05:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:13] <skaller> bimberi and hints in the meantime?
 nop usb devices are listed here
[05:13] <skaller> *any
[05:13] <John[1] > After I run the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I do not getht desktop.  I endup back at the command prompt.
[05:13] <AWOSDev> Dev05, thank you.
[05:14] <sethk> niall, there are other names.  my palm comes up as /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1
[05:14] <dr_willis> John[1] ,  did it say it installed some stuff?
[05:14] <sethk> niall, so not having devices there doesn't really prove much
[05:14] <bruenig> natural20, ok now. How do you want to launch this. An icon on the desktop or in the menus or panel or what?
[05:14] <Xnix> are there known issues with sata hard drives during the dapper install?
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[05:14] <sethk> niall, the thing is, if the device is created, a dmesg output will show it
[05:14] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm trying to share an internet connection on my laptop to a friend. what's the easiest way to do it in ubuntu? I know firestarter has a good interface for it but I'm using network manager to help manage my wireless card and it disables your other devices when not being used so firestarter says it's unable to activate my eth0 (lan card) on the laptop
[05:14] <cdc> i get disconnected from the net in seconds because an other interface gets created automatically by name ppp1
[05:15] <bimberi> skaller: those commands (from ubotu) will downgrade xserver-xorg-core to the version prior to the update
[05:15] <natural20> bruenig: tar: firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[05:15] <natural20> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:15] <DrBanzai> vik_, I don't see anything running, except maybe getty, and this is effecting both ttyS0 and S1
[05:15] <dr_willis> natural20,  you sure ya got the file name right?
[05:15] <John[1] > Wow there is so much going on in here I can't keep up hardley!!!
[05:15] <bruenig> natural20, do ls
[05:15] <bruenig> tell me what the output is
[05:15] <sethk> natural20, do ls -ltr   the most recent file will be the last one listed
[05:15] <Dial_tone> somebody should tie an IED to K-Fed's ass
[05:15] <fix> Is anyone experienced in getting internet with the USB Wireless Adaptor: WG111T -- I have tryed everything I could think of which isn't much since I am new with linux. I am trying to get internet on my laptop.
[05:15] <sethk> natural20, or ls -ltr | tail -1
[05:16] <lupine_85> linuxant doesn't work then?
[05:16] <natural20> download.html?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:16] <sethk> Dial_tone, was that relevant to something?
[05:16] <bruenig> lol
[05:16] <fix> I have no idea where my USB thing is lupine ;\
[05:16] <bruenig> it downloaded the html, that is funny
[05:16] <fix> Can't find WG111T on there
[05:16] <vik_> DrBanzai: so getty's prolly taking the port. (perhaps mgetty?) It is probably respawning if you kill it. have a look in /etc/inittab
[05:16] <IcemanV9> John[1] : turn on closed-captioning on ur tv; practices reading, then soon you'll be able to keep up with this room chat ;)
[05:16] <bruenig> i guess that link merely refers you to a mirror not the actual file, well I guess it will have to be done graphically
[05:16] <Dial_tone> nothing K-fed does is relevant
[05:17] <leboff> my synaptic seems to think theres a broken package (one i installed without it..) is there anyway to get it to ignore that
[05:17] <bruenig> natural20, go to here http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-US in a web browser and download firefox. Save it to your username directory if you can
[05:18] <lupine_85> if it's not mentioned, it's worth a try. I'd suggest you download and install it along with the most recent windows drivers for your card that you can find
[05:18] <RamiKassab> guys, any idea on how to share an internet connection via Firestarted? my lan device is active but Firestarter says the device isn't ready. I have Network Manager installed and Network Manager requires you to comment out the devices from /etc/network/interfaces
[05:18] <skaller> bimberi .. i'm on amd64 not x86
[05:18] <lupine_85> there is no linux driver, so it's linuxant or ndiswrapper - and you've already tried the latter
[05:18] <natural20> bruenig is my username directory home?
[05:18] <DrBanzai> vik_, Well, that was set to use ttyS1
[05:18] <fix> Wait linuxant is a program itself?
[05:18] <lupine_85> yes
[05:18] <bimberi> skaller: oops
[05:19] <fix> I have tryed ndiswrapper but I have no idea what I was doing lol,, let me go try to find this linuxant program and see if it works
[05:19] <lupine_85> it's like ndiswrapper - lets you use windows network drivers in linux
[05:19] <bruenig> natural20, it will be /home/username
[05:19] <fix> okay ty
[05:19] <vik_> and you've been trying minicom on ttyS0?
[05:19] <bruenig> natural20, it should say your username in the download dialog of firefox when you choose to download it
[05:19] <fix> Also quick question, so I dont have to use up my cd's
[05:19] <skaller> luckily i have 2 machines or I'd be upgrading to Windows :)
[05:19] <fix> How do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?
[05:20] <bimberi> skaller: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb
[05:20] <IcemanV9> RamiKassab: see if it does work without firestarter?
[05:20] <doughboy> Can anyone tell me how to get samba to share printer on my dapper box to windows laptop?
[05:20] <leboff> is it possible to get synaptic to ignore broken packages?
[05:20] <skaller> is that a patched .deb?
[05:20] <RamiKassab> IcemanV9: see if what works without firestarted? the shared internet connection?
[05:20] <DrBanzai> vik_, So, when I look at my processes under top, is getty the one I want to kill?
[05:20] <Dev05> !tell doughboy about samba
[05:21] <IcemanV9> RamiKassab: yes. shared net connection
[05:21] <gaspock5> ubotu: I <3 u
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I <3 u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <vik_> DrBanzai: well, it will respawn, so there's no point unless you've changed inittab.
[05:21] <RamiKassab> IcemanV9: how do you share an internet connection without firestarter? don't you need to edit config files and install a bunch of shit?
[05:21] <DrBanzai> vik_, Yeah, I changed inittab
[05:21] <natural20> bruenig: my downloads go to my desktop, home does not have a username folder.
[05:21] <fix> ow do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?
[05:22] <DrBanzai> vik_, But is it getty I want to kill, or mgetty?
[05:22] <sethk> RamiKassab, yes and no.  you don't need to install "a bunch of ..."   you do need to do a bit of configuration
[05:22] <vik_> DrBanzai: but if getty is listening on ttyS1 and you're trying to use ttyS0, then there should be no conflict
[05:22] <ivan`> does anyone know of a fan control solution on the old powerbook 867mhz G4s that have a /proc/device-tree/uni-n@f8000000/i2c@f8001000/fan@188 ?
[05:22] <bruenig> natural20, just put it in your desktop that is fine. We will move it later
[05:22] <DrBanzai> vik_, So it would seem.
[05:22] <John[1] > After I install the dapper server, I run apt-get update.  Then I run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  only I never end up with a desktop at reboot.  Any ideas?
[05:22] <bruenig> tell me when it is downloaded
[05:22] <vik_> DrBanzai: which is the one in inittab that was set to listen on the serial port? getty or mgetty?
[05:22] <natural20> bruenig: i lied, home does have a username folder.  the file is there
[05:22] <RamiKassab> sethk: I had found a guide to help with with that and did it one time but it would work for a while then stop working. I think network manager messes it all up
[05:22] <bruenig> natural20 ok, open up a terminal and do cd
[05:22] <RamiKassab> sethk: I had enabled ip forwarding and all that
[05:23] <bruenig> natural20, then do tar xf firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[05:23] <DrBanzai> vik_, mgetty, which I do not see listed in top
[05:23] <jackie> hi, somebody can help me with 3d acceleration of nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  ? please. i just install ubuntu 6.06, but have no 3d. :(
[05:23] <bruenig> !nvidia
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <AWOSDev> Dev05, I'm signed up.  Now how do I PM you?
[05:24] <bruenig> natural20, was that successful or what
[05:24] <natural20> bruenig, the terminal just gave a new command line, that's it
[05:24] <bruenig> natural20, perfect
[05:24] <fix> Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?
[05:25] <bruenig> natural20, how do you want to run it. An icon on the desktop. A menu entry or what
[05:25] <skaller> ok bimberi, thanks, that was a downgrade, it worked .. very confusing because i was making a chroot for Debian sid at the same time
[05:25] <bruenig> how do you want to start firefox when you use it
[05:25] <cdc> Hello people could some one help me pls
[05:25] <cdc> i get disconnected too often from the internet
[05:25] <bruenig> !ask
[05:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <bimberi> skaller: yw :)
[05:25] <natural20> bruenig: icon on the taskbar would be ideal, but i'll take anything.  desktop is fine
[05:25] <cdc> in few seconds i use pppoe to connect to the internet
[05:25] <bruenig> taskbar? the panel?
[05:26] <fdsd> hey guys, is there any usplash experts in here?
[05:26] <cdc> and after i get connected an other new interface by name ppp1 gets created automatically
[05:26] <fix> !ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <cdc> and i get disconnected.
[05:26] <natural20> bruenig: to me taskbar = applications, places, system, etc
[05:26] <skaller> bimberi can u explain the problem, will it be fixed?
[05:26] <lupine_85> fix - you want something called "ip forwarding"
[05:26] <cdc> skaller, is it for me ?
[05:26] <lupine_85> trivial to set up
[05:26] <bruenig> natural20, ok, go to applications>accessories>alacarte menu editor
[05:26] <skaller> bimberi
[05:26] <bimberi> skaller: no and yes :)
[05:26] <livesNbox> hey guys -- i got my sprint evdo card working inside of Ubuntu -- is there a way I can share that internet connection via an ad hoc wireless connection to another laptop ?
[05:26] <fix> I'm not sure what I want..I am just trying to get internet on my other computer ;\
[05:27] <lupine_85> (as long as the PC in the middle is on linux, anyway!)
[05:27] <dindin> I just updated xserver-xorg and now X wont' start
[05:27] <cdc> skaller, could you help me please?
[05:27] <lupine_85> So you've got PC<->PC<->Internet ?
[05:27] <natural20> bruenig, i have no alacarte menu editor :( sorry
[05:27] <bruenig> natural20, when you get in there click on internet and then do file>new entry
[05:27] <bruenig> natural20, oh yeah breezy
[05:27] <skaller> bimberi: desktops wants to do the upgrade again, how can I tell when it is safe to do so?
[05:27] <cdc> lupine_85, its a stand alone PC in my side
[05:27] <fix> yeh lupine
[05:27] <lupine_85> dindin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[05:27] <bruenig> well, panel or desktop is your choice I guess
[05:27] <cdc> lupine_85, i use pppoeconf to configure the internet
[05:27] <fix> But only temporarily
[05:27] <natural20> desktop is fine
[05:28] <bruenig> right click on the desktop and select create launcher
[05:28] <skaller> bimberi  .. ah .. lauchpad bug report .. ok
[05:28] <lupine_85> sorry cdc I don't have any idea re: your program (never used ppp)
[05:28] <bruenig> Name it whatever you want Firefox 1.5 seems good to me
[05:28] <bimberi> skaller: idk for sure sorry, look for it wanting to install a version higher than ......10.3
[05:28] <riddlebox> is there a way to tell the package updater not to even look at a certain package, I had to recompile ffmpeg with a certain parameter and now ubuntu wants to always update it
[05:28] <DrBanzai> vik_, Welp, I got work in the morning.  Thanks for the help...I may just have to wait till I wipe and install dapper
[05:28] <natural20> done
[05:28] <cdc> has anyone used pppoe on Ubuntu here ?
[05:28] <fix> lupine how would I do pc<-->pc<-->Internet ?
[05:28] <cdc> I am facing problems with pppoe connection
[05:28] <bruenig> give whatever comment you want. The only thing you must do is have the command say ~/firefox/firefox
[05:29] <riddlebox> cdc, whats the problem
[05:29] <cdc> can some one help me . i get disconnected from the internet in seconds
[05:29] <haasteem> !repositories
[05:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:29] <CyberMad> what is the difference between ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso and ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso ? i want install it in my laptop
[05:29] <skaller> bimberi: it probably has something to do with X win bindings to closed source GEForce driver