[00:00] <bobertdos> dynavox: Much of the time, partitions get autodetected, and they will mount once you select them in Places. Otherwise, you need to look up the device name using fdisk and mount it somewhere.
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ramis12: 9.04 in a virtual machine to try, and  9.10  on a real psyical isntall, that sounds good to me :)   also   you can get Virtualbox support in #vbox
[00:00] <zebastian> shane2peru yes, now once it's done what do i do, you said we could recover everything from where i'm at and so while it's copying i'm opening a notepad file to list any commands for the promptt
[00:00] <Anaisita> Hey. I just installed Ubuntu and everything works fine except for the sound. It just sounds weird.
[00:00] <LucidGuy> I wonder if its safe enough to give Karmic a shot.
[00:00] <scott_ino2> seidos, make sure you don't keep that permanant on yoru box, wouldn't want you breaking things
[00:00] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: don't get it yet, unless your a developer
[00:00] <ramis12> zebastian i did try but they are awfully quite all the time...i have been trying for 1 month now
[00:00] <scunizi> ramis12: you could also change the networking type from bridged to the other option.. also #vbox is great for vbox support..
[00:00] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: or a proper  Ubuntu tester
[00:00] <seidos> scott_ino2: didn't work for me either.  You probably need to be logged in as root to do it
[00:00] <shane2peru> zebastian: right, do you remember where you saved the ati file you downloaded?
[00:00] <boscop> why can't ubuntu mount hibernated windows partitions?
[00:01] <scott_ino2> which is impossible
[00:01] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: If you want to get it early maybe the Beta  on  October 1st
[00:01] <seidos> scott_ino2: probably, like you said, to keep users from breaking the system
[00:01] <lstarnes> LucidGuy: it should work well enough if you're not using it for a production system
[00:01] <zebastian> shane2peru no freaking clue
[00:01] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: I think it's the first
[00:01] <seidos> scott_ino2: impossible?
[00:01] <LucidGuy> Im itching to reload this buggy install of ubuntu .. but not sure if I can wait till Karmic becomes stable
[00:01] <Anaisita> I have a Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound card
[00:01] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, do you have internet access?
[00:01] <shane2peru> zebastian: on the laptop?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> lstarnes  LucidGuy  well  installing updates from the repo,  it seems won't just give the new features,  when alpha
[00:01] <scott_ino2> seidos, well.. not impossible
[00:01] <Anaisita> Can anybody help me. I sure it's nothing, I just don't know how to start solving it.
[00:02] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: well then Beta
[00:02] <scott_ino2> seidos, i'll just have to put it in acpi/acd.d instead i suppose
[00:02] <scott_ino2> more work for me than simply echoing
[00:02] <zebastian> shane2peru, i logged on recovery mode and from the recovery mode menu i selected prompt shell root with networking, so i'm assuming i do
[00:02] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: or  maybe alpha, but  you will have to clean install  when the final is out really for sure probably, if you do  an alpha
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  LucidGuy
[00:02] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: I thinik there may have been a feature freeze
[00:02] <bobertdos> Anaisita:  Define "weird"
[00:02] <shane2peru> zebastian: we can re-download it if you do, with:  wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run
[00:02] <seidos> scott_ino2: thankfully permission was denied for me :)
[00:02] <Reilithion> Halitech: FYI, this is what I was after: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/
[00:02] <Halitech> sebsebseb, LucidGuy as long as you keep things updated as they come out, no fresh install is required
[00:02] <Moloset> hey there team is it any hard to learn linux shell commands
[00:02] <Reilithion> Thanks for your help
[00:03] <sebsebseb> lstarnes:  well  the second dose of art work is quite a bit later on, the first dose has already been
[00:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: that will download the correct file again, and we can install it from there, and that should fix all your problems
[00:03] <scott_ino2> seidos, well i figured you kinda knew what you were getting yourself into ;-)
[00:03] <LucidGuy> Halitech, when you say update you mean keep up with apt-get update/dist-upgrade right?
[00:03] <Anaisita> bobertdos, I don't know, it doesn't sound right. It's like i'm using crappy speakers.
[00:03] <seidos> !ask | Anaisita
[00:03] <Flayke> linux
[00:03] <Flayke> forever
[00:03] <zebastian> shane2peru, you're lovely (I just pasted that command to the notepad file for when it's done copying files)
[00:03] <Halitech> LucidGuy, correct
[00:03] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I hate ati. :) last computer I will ever by with ati. :)
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Halitech   LucidGuy   I have had Karmic since alpha 4,  and  it seems that  most of the updates haven't done much good,  for example I don't have  that fancyish new  boot up screen when Ubuntu is loading
[00:04] <shane2peru> zebastian: do you have high speed, it is a 95MB file so it may take a few minutes, how is the copying coming?
[00:04] <bobertdos> Anaisita: First, bring up a terminal, type in alsamixer, and check your volume levels.
[00:04] <Halitech> sebsebseb, thats why its still not ready yet ;)
[00:04] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy:  yes alpha so bugs etc, that's expected,   and  this isn't the first  time I done alpha, but  like after last time, I said  I woudn't do it untill beta, but  I still did,   next time round I will stay with Karmic as host, and  virtual machine the development version,   and do a clean install as each one comes out
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Halitech: exactly
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Halitech: and you were basically saying it will be fine to upgrade probably
[00:05]  * scott_ino2 sigh... all i wanted was better battery life
[00:05] <seidos> scott_ino2: I figured it probably wouldn't work for me either :)
[00:05] <Halitech> sebsebseb, once the final release is out, apt-get update dist-upgrade should get you the final release
[00:05] <seidos> scott_ino2: I've been running with my battery removed
[00:05] <ramis12> hello again, what is a good company that issues laptops with pre-installed ubuntu...price is not an issue
[00:05] <scott_ino2> seidos, yeah im just gonna break down and buy solid state and get a new battery since it's under warranty
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Halitech: maybe, maybe not,  probably best to clean install anyway once the final is out
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Halitech: plus I got a nice seperate /home  so  that won't be difficult to do
[00:06] <martiben>  I have a problem with Wicd where it connects to my
[00:06] <martiben>                   wireless(can access other computers on LAN etc) but i dont
[00:06] <martiben>                   get internet. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[00:06] <Anaisita> bobertdos, haha yes!! the pcm level was too high! It sounds great now!!
[00:06] <seidos> scott_ino2: I was thinking of getting solid state, but I don't really need it, and don't have money to spend on things that I don't really need
[00:06] <Anaisita> Thanks bobertdos
[00:06] <bobertdos> dynavox: my pleasure
[00:07] <vigo> ramis12: Any PC maker will put just about any IBM/*nix system you want, just a matter of pre-order.
[00:07] <demonspork> How do I get the Creative Fatal1ty USB Gaming headset to work in Ubuntu?
[00:07] <bobertdos> oops
[00:07] <bobertdos> Anaisita: my pleasure
[00:07] <Halitech> sebsebseb, in theory it should but then again my luck with theory hasn't been so good lately :(
[00:07] <shane2peru> zebastian: did you get the data copied?
[00:07] <gordon142> With my Atheros-based internal wireless, Ubuntu drops the connection and reconnects at least once every five minutes
[00:08] <scott_ino2> seidos, the prices have come down a lot though... maybe soon
[00:08] <seidos> gordon142: are you using ndiswrapper?
[00:08] <gordon142> There is both an open-source and a proprietary driver available for the card (that ship with Ubuntu). Both have the same effect
[00:08] <kyle33> Whats the best and coolest graphics tool?compiz or beryl?I got ubuntu 9.04 as guest in vmware
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Halitech: when I did 9.04  and started with alpha6,  I was left with with one or two or so issues from it, untill I clean installed, by the way off topic and I did pm you
[00:08] <scott_ino2> kyle33, it's all just compiz now
[00:08] <gordon142> The issue only occurs after installing all software updates, the card works fine after installing 9.04 from the latest available ISO
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kyle33: Beryl is no longer made
[00:09] <seidos> !who | gordon142
[00:09] <gordon142> something in the updates breaks it
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kyle33: Beryl was a fork of Compiz Fushion, and then it got forked back into Compiz
[00:09] <scott_ino2> kyle33, or compiz-fusion to be more precise
[00:09] <gordon142> The only thing in the system log is "roamed from <my network> to """
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kyle33: they became one
[00:09] <gordon142> I'm not
[00:09] <gordon142> Just asking the channel
[00:09] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yeah Nividia :)
[00:09] <gordon142> I supposed I should consolidate the entire problem into a single post though
[00:09] <kyle33> Do i just use "sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion"
[00:10] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, here are the next commands:  updatedb && locate fglrx-uninstall.sh
[00:10] <zebastian0> shane2peru i am sorry i forgot to plug the laptop and battery died
[00:10] <zebastian0> i will need that command again for the driver
[00:10] <zebastian0> i couldn't save it
[00:10] <vigo> !compiz | kyle33
[00:10] <martiben> I recently installed wicd on my ubuntu 9.04 system, but when i connect to a wireless i only get LAN and no internet, anyone know what to do? :)
[00:10] <shane2peru> zebastian: ha ha, ok, no prob
[00:11] <kyle33> ok will it work for me?I have vista host, ubuntu guest in vmware
[00:11] <shane2peru> zebastian; plug it in and we are going to have to mount the hdd again
[00:11] <scunizi> What's the command to release and renew IP address from cli?
[00:11] <mneptok> scunizi: sudo dhclient $interface
[00:11] <zebastian0> shane2peru i mean
[00:11] <zebastian0> not that computer
[00:12] <vigo> kyle33: That page has most all the data on it that may concern that.
[00:12] <zebastian0> shane2peru that one is still backing up, it had this computer's power chord hence this one died
[00:12] <tehbaut_> for some reason I'm unable to mount an NTFS partition (but not getting any warning) in 9.04
[00:12] <shane2peru> zebastian:  I gotta run be back in a bit, here is the command
[00:12] <scunizi> mneptok: wasn't there another like ifup ipdown.. or something similar?
[00:12] <shane2peru> zebastian: we can re-download it if you do, with:  wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run
[00:12] <zebastian0> shane2peru i've got them both plugged to the wall
[00:12] <FloodBot3> shane2peru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <mneptok> scunizi: ifup/ifdown brings the interface up and down. turning the interface off and on. dhclient is just DHCP.
[00:13] <zebastian0> ok shane2peru if you're going to be off, what do i do after i enter that command after backing up is done?
[00:13] <scunizi> mneptok: would they accomlish the same if I'm unplugging from one connection and moving the computer to another?
[00:13] <martiben> I recently installed wicd on my ubuntu 9.04 system, but when i connect to a wireless i only get LAN and no internet, anyone know what to do?
[00:14] <zebastian0> shane2peru !!! it finished backing up
[00:14] <zebastian0> hold on
[00:14] <mneptok> scunizi: yes.
[00:14] <scunizi> mneptok: thanks
[00:14] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does ctrl+alt+del shut down or reboot the system?
[00:15] <vigo> ifup and stuff is on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1248734
[00:15] <Halitech> CoJaBo-Aztec, if I remember right, that key combination has been disabled
[00:15] <zebastian0> sebsebseb can you help me follow up from shane2peru given command?
[00:15] <Halitech> !dontzap
[00:15] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: maybe  seidos can
[00:16] <Halitech> CoJaBo-Aztec, nevermind, its ctrl-alt-backspace
[00:16] <pepsu> Enter text here...questo?
[00:16] <zebastian0> sebsebseb you think i should wait for shane2peru ?
[00:16] <AstroEl> i wanna mount a .iso file to a virtual file!
[00:16] <pepsu> join ubuntu.it
[00:16] <seidos> sebsebseb: I need to pick up the yoga mat that I have rolled up on the floor, brb
[00:17] <DasEi> !iso | AstroEl
[00:17] <pepsu> join ubuntu/it
[00:17] <zebastian0> sexy
[00:17] <pepsu> join ubuntu-it
[00:17] <Pici> pepsu: its /join #ubuntu-it
[00:17] <pepsu> thnx
[00:17] <martiben> I recently installed wicd on my ubuntu 9.04 system, but when i connect to a wireless i only get LAN and no internet, anyone know what to do?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yep wait for shane2peru   or  maybe wait for seidos and he can help you
[00:18] <seidos> sebsebseb: back
[00:18] <seidos> zebastian0: what was the command?
[00:18] <rejohn> kdeplasma-addons question:  Is it safe to have this package removed from a standard kde desktop system? Reason: I want to have apt-get cease downloading the kdebase-workspace-wallpapers package, because it is large (45MB) for my inet connection. [I'm running KUbuntu 904 with the ppa enabled for the latest KDE package updates.]  It was suggested to me that I apt-get remove that package, & see what other packages will be removed, or
[00:18] <rejohn> When I did  "apt-get -s remove kdebase-workspace-wallpapers" it said: "The following packages will be REMOVED:  kdebase-workspace-wallpapers kdeplasma-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons".  The only concern I can think of is that removing "kdeplasma-addons" might be bad for my system.  Your suggestions, please?
[00:19] <seidos> rejohn: it might remove something you don't want removed...
[00:19] <zebastian0> seidos, first off, i just backed up all my files to the external hard drive, i want to unplug it as i have a laptop(this oen) on the desktop and the other on my lap and hanging from it is the hard drive, so how can i unmount it
[00:19] <libtech> right click, unmount?
[00:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does ctrl+alt+del shut down or reboot the system?
[00:20] <seidos> zebastian0: libtech has a point.  can't you right click the device and unmount it?
[00:20] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: shouldn't do anything in X
[00:20] <kyle33> Is there a shortcut i can use to open the terminal?like cntrl+alt+something?
[00:20] <rejohn> seidos: that's what I'm asking - & i do know this is #ubuntu, not #kde ;) - but do you know if removing the "kdeplasma-addons" would be problem causing?
[00:20] <zebastian0> seidos, i am on recovery mode, shell promt networking mode
[00:20] <beans43> x
[00:20] <zebastian0> no gui
[00:20] <libtech> kyle33: you can set one if you want, im not sure if there is a shortcut by default
[00:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: In text terminal. Seems its the only way to do a shutdown :/
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Or reboot, have no idea which it will do
[00:21] <seidos> zebastian0: umount /something/something
[00:21] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: well doesn't "sudo halt" work?
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: I cant sudo.
[00:21] <seidos> zebastian0: let me try in my terminal
[00:21] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: why not...?
[00:21] <bro> zebastian0: did you fix the xserver?
[00:21] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: (it reboots by the way)
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: Sudo is broken, and any attempt to fix it would require sudo.
[00:21] <zebastian0> bro, not yet
[00:21] <vigo> kyle33: You can set that any way you wish, Preferences>Main Menu can do it.
[00:22] <sebsebseb> seidos: he is in a  shell,  uhmmm  read the back log?
[00:22] <seidos> zebastian0: type mount, it will list your mounted "devices", then type umount devicepath
[00:22] <shane2peru> zebastian ok, I'm back
[00:22] <kyle33> ok thanks
[00:22] <seidos> sebsebseb: time
[00:22] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: broken how?  Reboot in recovery mode (from grub menu) to fix it
[00:22] <kyle33> Is there something like task manager in ubuntu?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> seidos: ok  shane2peru is back,  so  they can help him I expect
[00:22] <seidos> 4:25
[00:22] <Halitech> CoJaBo-Aztec, did you look at the directions here? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[00:22] <bro> zebastian0: did you fix the xserver?
[00:22] <aleron6> can anybody tell me whats the commend to stop the annoying update manager again
[00:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: Problem is I want to shut it down safely first.
[00:22] <zebastian0> shane2peru,  how do i unmount the external hard drive now that's finished backing up
[00:22] <shane2peru> zebastian: got your data copied over?
[00:22] <bro> zebastian0: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:22] <shane2peru> zebastion0 umount /media/disk
[00:22] <sebsebseb> bro: no  he didn't and is probably going to re install
[00:23] <zebastian0> bro, not yet, i'm jabbing at it with the help of shane2peru
[00:23] <beans44> x'
[00:23] <shane2peru> zebastian0: did installing the proprietary drivers before mess things up?
[00:23] <vigo> kyle33: Yes there is, System>Administration >System Monitor
[00:23] <shane2peru> zebastian0: is that what got you into this mess?
[00:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> This is a mess o_O
[00:23] <kyle33> It froze, i think its vmware and not ubuntu though
[00:23] <naturalx> Hey guys.  I have ATI Catalyst with an ATI mobility X1600 running on Ubuntu Intrepid.  Recently, I got a new monitor.  I now have one 1680x1050 monitor and one 1900x1200, however, when using them (either dual or individually), the catalyst refuses to go above 1680x1050 for the second monitor, even though it has 1900x1200 listed under "Maximum Resolution".  How can I get it working?
[00:24] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: how is sudo broken?
[00:24] <zebastian0> shane2peru, bash: unmount command not found
[00:24] <eary1>    	 	 	 	 	 	   I deinstalled vista and installed Ubuntu and when I did my sound stopped working.  My computer is the dell studio Laptop and am using the 64 version of Ubuntu. I am brave and will stick this soundlessness out but I need to know there is hope.
[00:24] <seidos> zebastian0: umount not unmount
[00:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: sudo[9067]: segfault at 0 ip b7c5db0b sp bfe80410 error 4 in pam_smbpass.so[b7c01000+12a000]
[00:24] <shane2peru> zebastian0: really?  that is odd
[00:24] <zebastian0> bro, shane2peru you surely know more than i do,m i think you might have been right on about hte overheating drivers
[00:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Might just need a reboot to fix, tryting to make sure I can shut down safely tho first.
[00:24] <seidos> shane2peru: he typed unmount not umount
[00:25]  * CoJaBo-Aztec cant umount anything eiteher :/
[00:25] <zebastian0> seidos, ok i just typed umount and it went back to the prompt, is it safe to remove the ext hard drive yet?
[00:25] <shane2peru> zebastian0: it is : umount /media/disk    not unmount just umount
[00:25] <shane2peru> seidos: thanks, I didn't catch that.
[00:25] <sandy|lurk> hi, where do I find the Karmic schedule? Specifically, I'm looking for freeze dates
[00:25]  * CoJaBo-Aztec has like, 1 billion screen shells open
[00:25] <resnostyle> hello. how do i stop issues with kacpi taking 99% of cpu?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: a quick Google and it will come up
[00:25] <sandy|lurk> sebsebseb: you would think so...
[00:25] <shane2peru> zebastian0: then run wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run
[00:25] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok i did that
[00:26] <seidos> zebastian0: hold on, let me get my usb drive, to test to make sure.  I'm pretty sure (off the top of my head) that it will return a message verifying the drive is unmounted when you execute the umount /media/device command
[00:26] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: hmm
[00:26] <sandy|lurk> sebsebseb: really, I did google before I came here, and I am still googling in the interest of time, but have had no luck
[00:26] <zebastian0> shane2peru hold on i'm a slow typist on two laptops
[00:26] <shane2peru> zebastian0: no prob, that is a long link too.
[00:26] <Deathvalley122> hmm
[00:26] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: yeah  it doesn't have that much info on it
[00:27] <bro> zebastian0: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[00:27] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: also the Karmic channal at the moment is #ubuntu+1
[00:27] <Deathvalley122> does anyone know when another kernel update is gonna be out for Ubuntu?
[00:27] <sandy|lurk> okay, I'll ask in there. thanks sebsebseb
[00:27] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: ctrl-alt-del should work fine to reboot and then load recovery mode
[00:27] <shane2peru> zebastian0: after you get that, you are going to need to follow these instructions: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat99-inst.pdf
[00:27] <seidos> zebastian0: if there were no errors, it should be safe to remove
[00:27] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I gotta run
[00:27] <sandy|lurk> ah, right in their topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[00:27] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: ok
[00:27] <sandy|lurk> peace out
[00:27] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: yes that's the link
[00:28] <mmInd_> anyone know if I can multiple files at once using devede?
[00:28] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: I want to turn the system completely off first. I suppose I can stop it before it starts to boot again?
[00:28] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you can try bro suggestion too, but you are going to need to install the proprietary driver or it will continue to overheat with videos etc
[00:28] <seidos> bro: it was proprietary video drivers that is keeping zebastian0 out of xorg?
[00:28] <Sunniboi> hello how is german ubuntu
[00:28] <zebastian0> back from typing
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !de |  Sunniboi
[00:28] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: why
[00:29] <mmInd_> I've got about 100 files I need to add to make a video dvd and I'm using devede (for the first time) to do it
[00:29] <Halitech> mmInd_, yes you can
[00:29] <Sunniboi> thanks
[00:29] <Halitech> mmInd_, how big are the files?
[00:29] <shane2peru> anyone good with installing proprietary ati drivers would be kind enough to help out zebastian0 with installing on the command line, I gotta run
[00:29] <mmInd_> Halitech, really small (like 25-50mb)
[00:29] <seidos> shane2peru: I'll do what I can
[00:29] <zopiac> does the find command search in (dot) folders?
[00:29] <bro> seidos, i understand, that's why i told him to reset the xserver to the default state
[00:29] <zebastian0> shane2peru thanks so much for oyur help
[00:30] <Halitech> mmInd_, ok, should work fine
[00:30] <shane2peru> seidos: he installed something, and it probably should be removed
[00:30] <shane2peru> zebastian0: no prob
[00:30] <zebastian0> i got the following outputt
[00:30] <Azaz3l> sorry i have a problem with aide... i need documentation but not for installation xD i need a document about how i can make my own rules and what is each parameter :s
[00:30] <zebastian0> wget unable to resolve host address failed name or service not known
[00:30] <mmInd_> Halitech, how do you add more than one at a time?
[00:30] <seidos> shane2peru: ok
[00:30] <shane2peru> seidos: he can find the old thing with updatedb && locate fglrx-uninstall.sh  and uninstall that driver
[00:30] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[00:30] <Halitech> mmInd_, depends, do you want chapters or do you want them to run together as 1 movie?
[00:30] <speedeep_> Anyone had any luck getting Ubuntu to use a digital audio out dongle on a Dell Latitude C810?  Maestro 3.  Can't seem to get anything intelligible in the way of digital audio (coax) coming out of the laptop.
[00:31] <naturalx>  Hey guys.  I have ATI Catalyst with an ATI mobility X1600 running on Ubuntu Intrepid.  Recently, I got a new monitor.  I now have one 1680x1050 monitor and one 1900x1200, however, when using them (either dual or individually), the catalyst refuses to go above 1680x1050 for the second monitor, even though it has 1920x1200 listed under "Maximum Resolution".  How can I get it to work?  Any help would be much appreciated!
[00:31] <shane2peru> seidos: here is the instructions:  https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat99-inst.pdf
[00:31] <seidos> zebastian0: have you tried changing the device in xorg.conf?
[00:31] <mmInd_> Halitech, don't really care, chapters would be nice
[00:31] <zebastian0> seidos, no, let's do that
[00:31] <zebastian0> seidos, i mean
[00:31] <zebastian0> yes
[00:31] <zebastian0> to vesa
[00:31] <zebastian0> now that i recall
[00:31] <FloodBot3> zebastian0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !enter |  zebastian0
[00:31] <seidos> zebastian0: yeah, and changing to vesa didn't work?
[00:32] <jrib> zopiac: should be easy to test and see (yes)
[00:32] <zebastian0> seidos, it didn't
[00:32] <Noturno99> i cant install pidgin in mi linux
[00:32] <Noturno99> what library i needed?
[00:32] <aleron6> can anybody help my install these drivers
[00:32] <seidos> zebastian0: you should try bro's command
[00:32] <Halitech> mmInd_, ok, when you open devede, you will be set to add your first video, after you add the first one, click on the add on the left side (sorry, got mine running right now doing a conversion so can't look at it) and then add your second file, repeat until done
[00:32] <seidos> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high  xserver-xorg
[00:32] <seidos> zebastian0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high  xserver-xorg
[00:32] <zopiac> jrib: well it isnt finding what i would think should be in a .folder . . .
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Noturno99: Pidgin should be installed by default
[00:33] <Halitech> mmInd_, if you want to break it down to say 10 files running together, add the first 10 files to the first chapter then add another chapter
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Noturno99: if you done Ubuntu,  which Linux?
[00:33] <jrib> zopiac: pastebin
[00:33] <zopiac> jrib: what to pastebin? it isnt finding what i want
[00:34] <mmInd_> Halitech, is there a way to add all 100 to one title without doing each one separately?
[00:34] <jrib> zopiac: so pastebin your command, it not finding what you want (the output of your command), and an ls /path/to/what/you/expected/it/to/find
[00:34] <zebastian0> seidos, i got the following output, warning overwriting posssibly customised configuration file, back up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200909141720033
[00:34] <Halitech> mmInd_, yeah, just keep adding them to the first chapter
[00:34] <jrib> zopiac: or you're not sure it's there?
[00:35] <zopiac> jrib: im not sure its there, and it isnt a single directory
[00:35] <Halitech> mmInd_, I'm not sure what the limit is for files but you should see a progress bar in regards to file size or percentage of disk, when that hits 120 you'll have a full disk
[00:35] <seidos> zebastian0: that's not a big deal, a backup of xorg.conf is fine
[00:35] <zebastian0> seidos, unrelated: can i unplug the external drive yet?
[00:35] <jrib> zopiac: right, but find does search in hidden directories.  But you could easily test this yourself by creating a small hidden directory and putting a file in there and using find.  So it's not there if find says it isn't
[00:35] <zebastian0> seidos, just letting you know
[00:35] <zopiac> yeah, it would have been easier
[00:36] <mmInd_> Halitech, okay thanks for your help
[00:36] <zopiac> didnt think of it though, thanks
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: did you type umount /media/device without errors?
[00:36] <zebastian0> seidos yes
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: then yes :)
[00:36] <jrib> zopiac: no problem
[00:36] <Halitech> mmInd_, np
[00:36] <zebastian0> seidos, whenever you're ready i'm ready
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: what is the name of your external hard disk?
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: type startx
[00:37] <Out_Cold> so i was trying to compile a driver... but i get errors.. anyone want to take a look? http://pastebin.com/m4f6dfe87
[00:37] <zebastian0> seidos, didn't work, blue, pixelated strip on top of the screen, nothing else
[00:37] <seidos> zebastian0: but x is up?
[00:38] <zebastian0> seidos...i guess, it went onto a black screen with a  stripy pixelated blue line at the top
[00:38] <zebastian0> it might be up but it ain't running
[00:38] <seidos> zebastian0: kill xorg in a terminal
[00:39] <zebastian0> seidos...er, i was in root prompt shell with networking mode
[00:39] <zebastian0> how do i get out of x at all?
[00:40] <seidos> zebastian0: root prompt shell?  does control-alt-f1 display another shell?
[00:40] <martin_randau> hello. my first time here. is there a specific channel for hardware problems?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> seidos: no he is  in recovery mode
[00:40] <seidos> martin_randau: there is a ##hardware channel
[00:40] <zebastian0> that that
[00:40] <seidos> sebsebseb: is there a way to kill xorg without rebooting?
[00:41] <seidos> zebastian0: try rebooting
[00:41] <bro> seidos: shoudn't he nano on xorg.conf and tell us exactly what drivers are loaded?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> seidos: well I guess xorg isn't even running, since he is in recovery mode in one of those shells
[00:41] <zebastian0> seidos, yes sir
[00:41] <seidos> bro: he said he tried vesa mode already, vesa mode should work regardless of proprietary drivers he installed
[00:41] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: hang on
[00:41] <seidos> sebsebseb: I told him to type startx
[00:41] <bro> seidos: didn't know that
[00:42] <seidos> sebsebseb: had I known he was in a root shell, I wouldn't have told him to do that :o
[00:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: shane2peru  was  helping him mount his external hard disk in   the recovery mode shell
[00:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: and stuff like that
[00:42] <seidos> sebsebseb: ah
[00:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: well I guess you got a back log,  plus   the offical log will be up soon, if it's not already,  with the stuff from earleir
[00:42] <zebastian0> seidos, sebsebseb, bro, back on prompt root shell with networking(recovery mode)
[00:42] <tehbaut_> what are your favorite themes?
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: have you considered booting normally now?
[00:43] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> seidos: that was his whole problem as well,  he coudn't boot Ubuntu normalley since the xorg issue
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: do you still have device as vesa in xorg.conf?
[00:43] <zebastian0> seidos, if i do the same black screen with the pixelated stripe will come up
[00:43] <zebastian0> as in x don't work
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: that's why I asked about your xorg.conf
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: at this point I'
[00:44] <zebastian0> seidos, how do i check if i still have vesa in xorg.conf
[00:44] <seidos> zebastian0: I'm not sure if the problem before was from trying to start xorg with root priviledges or the device your using in xorg.conf
[00:44] <seidos> zebastian0: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:45] <seidos> zebastian0: off the top of my head, under Device, identifier should be set to "vesa"
[00:45] <zebastian0> seidos, no sight of vesa anywhere about, or at least not where i'd put it
[00:45] <Fendarilx> anyone here?
[00:45] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: over a thousand
[00:46] <bro> zebastian, in device, at driver, what does it say? those should be your drivers now
[00:46] <seidos> zebastian0: you have to type "vesa" where your current device is listed (ati?)
[00:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: maybe it would have been easier to just put in  the live cd and  get your external hard disk working on it and move data  over to it, and re install,  but then you also don't learn stuff
[00:46] <pixlbox> if my ubuntu pc doesnt receive any requests after about 10 mins it rejects all inbound requests
[00:46] <Fendarilx> well tell me why my PATH variable resets and my enviornment variables are deleted on restart
[00:46] <Fendarilx> then I will leave
[00:46] <pixlbox> has anyone else had this problem ?
[00:47] <Fendarilx> no only you
[00:47] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: you need to set them in your ~/.profile
[00:47] <lstarnes> pixlbox: it may be an issue with your router
[00:47] <seidos> bro: zebast + tab = zebastian0
[00:47] <Fendarilx> kk
[00:47] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, that's what i had suggested a long time ago
[00:47] <zebastian0> seidos, what is your take on sebsebseb's suggestion?
[00:47] <pixlbox> the only way to get it working again, is if i then send some kind of outbound request
[00:48] <bro> seidos: what do you mean? i'm not used to irc...
[00:48] <seidos> zebastian0: how much time do you have, and do you want to learn?
[00:48] <seidos> bro: type zebast + tab
[00:48] <bro> seidos, ok
[00:48] <Fendarilx> this is my profile lstarnes
[00:48] <Fendarilx> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ]; then
[00:48] <Fendarilx> PATH="$HOME/euphoria-4.0b2/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[00:48] <Fendarilx> export EUDIR="$HOME/euphoria-4.0b2"
[00:48] <Fendarilx> fi
[00:48] <FloodBot3> Fendarilx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <zebastian0> seidos, i have all day long for as long as you have that too...shane2peru didn'thave as long as i have
[00:48] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: you need to export $PATH
[00:49] <Fendarilx> EUDIR is my own exported variable
[00:49] <Fendarilx> for a program
[00:49] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: but you must export $PATH
[00:49] <revenge> can someone help me setup .chd files for sdmame?
[00:49] <Fendarilx> ok im lost
[00:49] <seidos> zebastian0: I have time, off and on until I get a job :)
[00:49] <Fendarilx> i thought path was there
[00:49] <pixlbox> it only happens with that computer thought
[00:49] <bro> zebastian0, to save nano ctrl+o, to close ctrl+x, after you've done editing
[00:49] <pixlbox> though*
[00:50] <zebastian0> bro, done editing? what sort of editing? what should i write under identifier? currently it reads configured video device, seidos, great!
[00:50] <Neroon> Can anyone help with Kopete? It keeps disconnecting when I log into icq network
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Neroon: yeah Kopete  can be a bit weird, hence why I prefer Pidgin, but there's also licq
[00:51] <sebsebseb> !info licq
[00:51] <zruty> Who was it told me to use empathy ...?
[00:51] <bro> zebastian0, seidos told you to write "vesa" in line with driver
[00:51] <scunizi> zruty: that's in the next release
[00:51] <Fendarilx> lstarnes i put path after an "export"?
[00:51] <bro> seidos, right?
[00:52] <Neroon> sebsebseb: I'd use licq, but it has another bug, I really hate ..
[00:52] <IdleOne> scunizi: empathy is available in jaunty also
[00:52] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: export $PATH
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Neroon: What's that?
[00:52] <scunizi> ah
[00:52] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: ^ that line
[00:52] <scunizi> Neroon: try irssi
[00:52] <Neroon> sebsebseb: It just doesnt list me as online
[00:52] <seidos> zebastian0, bro:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/271277/, this is how I think he should enter vesa.  Next to identifier.
[00:52] <Fendarilx> oh and is the EUDIR valid?
[00:52] <pixlbox> checked my router, changed the ip address of my computer and its still doing the same thing
[00:52] <Fendarilx> i defined it
[00:52] <sebsebseb> scunizi: IRSSI can do ICQ I guess not
[00:52] <Fendarilx> on the same line
[00:52] <Fendarilx> as export
[00:52] <FloodBot3> Fendarilx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <zebastian0> seidos, bro, ok done, saved "vesa" and now i'm out of nano
[00:53] <seidos> bro: do you think typing startx in a root shell is a bad idea for zebastian0?
[00:53] <seidos> zebastian0: reboot now
[00:53] <bro> zebastian0, look at seidos' link
[00:53] <scunizi> sebsebseb: didn't catch that.. I was thinking irc.. acrynoms acrynoms acrynoms.. I'm going nuts lately learning new one for various disaplines
[00:53] <zruty> scunizi: Yep, I know. And also what the pther guy said that it is already available. Anyway ~~ I installed it and started using it but it seems not really stable
[00:53] <sebsebseb> scunizi: heh ok
[00:53] <seidos> zebastian0: boot back into normal mode (not failsafe)
[00:53] <bro> seidos, dunno, i never done it
[00:54] <seidos> bro: I may have done it...probably shouldn't though
[00:54] <pixlbox> can anyone help me, ??  been trying to sort this thing out all day
[00:54] <zebastian0> ok rebooting
[00:54] <seidos> !ask | pixlbox
[00:54] <bro> seidos, i don't see the problem though, x should start
[00:54] <sebsebseb> seidos: he did
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !enter |  pixlbox
[00:55] <sebsebseb> pixlbox: I do that as well, but
[00:55] <pixlbox> ok, my pc refuses inbound requests after not receiving any network traffic for about 10 mins
[00:55] <sebsebseb> pixlbox: you basically split up your question in two, with quite a lot in between, so that's not that good
[00:55] <zebastian0> seidos, now what happened is i got two wee blurry, pixelated splash ubuntu's and a green pixelated top bar on a black screen
[00:56] <seidos> zebastian0: can you paste a screenshot?
[00:56] <seidos> zebastian0: I have to ask
[00:56] <bro> zebastian0, is the desktop working, or still blocked?
[00:56] <LucidGuy> urg .. loosing my mind my Ubuntu refuses to restart/shutdown at times.  Urg ..
[00:56] <zebastian0> seidos, i cant paste a screenshot, i'm a different laptop
[00:56] <zebastian0> bro, not working
[00:56] <LucidGuy> It used to work , but lost track of changes made ....  so many issues after the the upgrade from 8.10 to Jaunty.
[00:57] <seidos> zebastian0: you can't read the screen?  at all?
[00:57] <bro> zebastian0, take a picture of the display :)
[00:57] <seidos> zebastian0: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make sure the changes you made are still there
[00:57] <seidos> zebastian0: should still say "vesa" next to identifier
[00:57] <zebastian0> seidos, i'll to reboot for that
[00:57] <zebastian0> bro, no camera
[00:57] <zruty> I seem to be able to connect to here for instance using pidgin but at this time empathy is completely telling me there's a network error, at this very same time
[00:57] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: indeed  8.10 is better than 9.04 in certain ways, and they even mess with shutdown and logout in 9.04
[00:58] <sebsebseb> not having it in system menu anymore, and he left
[00:58] <bro> seidos, you think is safe to upgrade to karma already? one month should not make such a big difference in developement :P
[00:58] <x404x> !pidgin
[00:58] <seidos> zebastian0: hit ctrl-alt-f1
[00:58] <Neroon> sebsebseb: Well, just tried pidgin. Seems to work. But is there a way to import a contact list out of icq2000?
[00:58] <IdleOne> bro: karmic WILL break
[00:58] <seidos> zebastian0: it should bring up a terminal
[00:58] <IdleOne> bro: #ubuntu+1 :)
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Neroon: ICQ2000  in Wine or?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Neroon: When you log into ICQ  on Pidgin it should have your contact list there.
[00:58] <seidos> bro: depends what you mean by "safe"
[00:59] <seidos> bro: I'm going to wait for the next lts
[00:59] <zebastian0> seidos, i had to reboot, if i don't start up on recovery mode it simply gets stuck
[00:59] <Neroon> sebsebseb: It's just residing on my stone old win partition. Not working anymore
[00:59] <zebastian0> now i'm back on the shhell prompt with root and networking
[00:59] <bro> zebastian0, so did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[00:59] <zebastian0> so seidos, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[00:59] <Neroon> sebsebseb: No, I haven't been online with a newer icq and up to 2000 icq didnt store them online
[00:59] <seidos> zebastian0: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:59] <durt> bro, there are big bugs in karmic as we speak
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Neroon: oh
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Neroon: noI don't think you can import the list
[01:00] <seidos> bro: is all your hardware working now?  you used Jackalope?
[01:00] <zebastian0> seidos, the vesa is still there
[01:00] <sebsebseb> Neroon: I don't think you can
[01:00] <seidos> bro: correction, use
[01:00] <Neroon> sebsebseb: Actually that was why I didnt use a newer icq. No need for mirabilis to know my list
[01:00] <bro> seidos, yep, all up and running on Jaunty
[01:00] <seidos> zebastian0: I am readding this to double check vesa procedure
[01:00] <seidos> zebastian0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=890645
[01:00] <bro> seidos, but i didn't upgrade to koala yet, that's why i asked
[01:01] <sebsebseb> bro: 9.10 isn't out yet
[01:01] <sebsebseb> !karmic | bro
[01:01] <Themi> How do I mount my CD rom drive?
[01:01] <bro> sebsebseb, i know, but you can still upgrade to it, even to alpha releases as it seems
[01:02] <sebsebseb> bro: well yes, but I woudn't recommend that,  except for developers, and proper  alpha testers
[01:02] <WB2Colorado>  /part
[01:02] <zebastian0> seidos, did we do it wrong?
[01:02] <seidos> zebastian0: it should be Driver "vesa", like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/271280/
[01:02] <seidos> zebastian0: :\, yeah
[01:02] <seidos> zebastian0: sorry, it's been awhile since I've done it
[01:03] <foundry87> If I use custom album artwork from a website in Rhythmbox, where does it store the image or the location to that image?
[01:03] <Themi> Can any one help me? How do I mount my CDRom drive to my recent install of Ubuntu 9.04
[01:03] <seidos> zebastian0: setting it to vesa should allow you to get into x
[01:03] <zebastian0> seidos, no problem you're still one of the sweetest helping violunteers here
[01:03] <sebsebseb> bro: for people such as myself, who are a bit more than the average end user,   it's better really to wait untill at least the beta, but  loads of us will still do the alpha anyway
[01:03] <sebsebseb> bro: for everyone else, the final for sure
[01:04] <Guest24327> Help Wanted!   need information or help with printer on my ubuntu system to network or share it to a pc using vista... pm's are welcome
[01:04] <seidos> why thank you
[01:04] <pyxis> hi, does anyone here know of a good irc client for ubuntu?
[01:04] <sebsebseb> !cups |  Guest24327
[01:04] <bro> sebsebseb, agree, i'm just a little unpacient :) [is that the right word?]
[01:04] <sebsebseb> pyxis: yep
[01:04] <telaviv> i just installed gcc-snapshot to try to get g++ v 4.4 but i'm unclear how i'm supposed to use it. g++ is still connected to the old 4.3 version
[01:05] <sebsebseb> bro: unpatient
[01:05] <lstarnes> telaviv: try g++-4.4
[01:05] <zebastian0> seidos, so i just wrote it out on nano, now what do i do? restart? ctrl alt del?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> bro: if I spelt right
[01:05] <Guest24327> thanks ill give a look and read and try things out.
[01:05] <telaviv> there's only g++ and g++-4.3
[01:05] <seidos> zebastian0: shutdown -r now might work
[01:05] <sebsebseb> pyxis: Xchat is rathar popular, but I much prefer Konversation which is a KDE app, but you can run it in Gnome as well so :),   if you want one for the termianl well IRSSI for example
[01:06] <Howdy> hey guys
[01:06] <bro> zebastian0, do a restart
[01:06] <zruty> I just restarted empathy but even less accounts connect, all say they got a network error
[01:06] <Gabrys> hello, how to disable the splash screen AFTER logging and before Gnome is fully up?
[01:06] <seidos> zebastian0: or is it shutdown now -r?
[01:06] <Howdy> does any1 know how to send a message from your computer to another IP on a linux
[01:06] <zebastian0> bro, doing so
[01:06] <zruty> How to delete the Install icon on the desktop of live USB ?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> !usb |  zruty
[01:07] <Howdy> how do you send a message via terminal? to another guys terminal?
[01:07] <zruty> sebsebseb: Yes, I know all that, but how to delete that icon? I keep deleing it but it keeps coming back
[01:07] <zebastian0> seidos, not working, again stuck, two wee splashies ubuntus and a pixelated stripe on top and everything stuck
[01:07] <teh_bee> echo 'lol' >> /dev/tty1
[01:07] <pyxis> sebsebseb: thanks, i'll have a look at them
[01:07] <zruty> sebsebseb: All other settign are persisted
[01:07] <sebsebseb> pyxis: ok and Konversation :)
[01:07] <Howdy> teh_bee is that for me?
[01:07] <bro> zebastian0, "reboot" command should work too as i remember
[01:08] <Howdy> how about to another IP?
[01:08] <teh_bee> yea
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zruty: I guess your running the equivilant to the Live CD on your USB stick, hence it coming back
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zruty: also if you save something on that USB,  when you  re load it, the thing you saved is gone?
[01:08] <seidos> zebastian0: I don't know.  I would have to read more.  You have an ati graphics card, right?
[01:08] <beatbreaker> what's the command when using Xinerama to get a program to open on the (eg) second screen?
[01:08] <zebastian0> seidos, i do
[01:08] <zruty> sebsebseb: Nope, everything else stays. It's just that icon that keeps coming back
[01:08] <sebsebseb> seidos: shane2peru suggested a driver for him to install ealrier
[01:08] <sebsebseb> seidos: it will be in the offical log now
[01:08] <judson_> hi
[01:09] <teh_bee> howdy, dont know about another ip
[01:09] <zebastian0> there's a log from here?
[01:09] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> !logs |   seidos   zebastian0
[01:09] <zebastian0> haha!
[01:09] <judson_> i installed the mac4lin theme
[01:09] <zruty> sebsebseb: I changed the desktop background, added some desktop icons, switched off the sound and disabled sound theme: All persistent, even made a couple of boot scripts, all are there... Just this one icon keeps coming back, even if I empty trash etc
[01:10] <NetEcho> judson_ having problems?
[01:10] <judson_> no
[01:10] <sebsebseb> zruty: ok well I can't help I guess, since I haven't done Ubuntu from a USB  before
[01:10] <zebastian0> seidos, the laptops getting hot, i am going to reboot into recovery mode again
[01:10] <Neroon> beatbreaker: I don't use Xinerama, but two separate screens, and this works for me in front of the app name:       DISPLAY=:0.1 <appname>
[01:10] <seidos> zebastian0: just reinstall at this point, not sure what else to tell you
[01:11] <judson_> my computer crashes everytime i watch vids on youtube though :(
[01:11] <zebastian0> seidos, do you recomend i install jaunty again and install the driver shane2peru had toldme to, or install 8.04?
[01:11] <zebastian0> bro, what do you think
[01:11] <beatbreaker> Neroon, yeah i was using 2 seperate X displays before but it was annoying me, i want to gety and get it working with xinerama instead
[01:12] <seidos> zebastian0: I would recommend seeing what other people with the same ati graphics card you have would do
[01:12] <bro> zebastian0, you can go with 9.04, works flowlessly on my machine
[01:12] <zebastian0> seidos, how can i survey that?
[01:12] <beatbreaker> i wrote a script that had it opening on the other display but now that obviously doesn't work
[01:12] <sebsebseb> bro: what no it didn't untill you sorted your ATI issue out?
[01:12] <zebastian0> bro, yes but remember that because i didn't have the propretory drivers, it would get overheated and then get stuck?
[01:12] <seidos> zebastian0: see if anyone has written documentation on your card for ubuntu
[01:12] <Howdy> how do you send a message via ssh to another IP?
[01:12] <zebastian0> wouldn't it be easier with 8.04?
[01:12] <bro> seidos, not sure the ati driver problems are just related to 9.04
[01:13] <Neroon> beatbreaker: well I prefer it that way since the 2nd display is my tv, but the DISPLAY=:0.1 <appname> might work with xinerama as well. Tried it? Maybe with a shell or something
[01:14] <seidos> bro: me neither, I'm googling
[01:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: probably
[01:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: since an older version of xorg
[01:14] <bro> sebsebseb, i just messed my x because of bad driver installation, my fault alone. the only thing that's bad is the tearing [no-vsync] effect
[01:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: your card is old not new?
[01:14] <seidos> zebastian0: what card do you have?  what model?
[01:14] <sebsebseb> bro: yeah I think that's what zebastian0 did messed up his 9.04 install, because of bad driver installation
[01:15] <Ahmed> hello
[01:15] <seidos> how do coders write code if they don't have the hardware to test it on?
[01:15] <teh_bee> notepad and pen
[01:15] <sebsebseb> seidos: you mean the specs for the hardware or?
[01:15] <Ahmed> yep
[01:15] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, bro, seidos, i am looking for the exact card model
[01:15] <beatbreaker> Neroon, in my situaiton i'm getting XBMC to open on the right screen on boot, but i don't always use it and when i'm doing office stuff i need to be able to drag womdpws across, i can't get the drag thing working
[01:16] <P_Kable> Hi, anyone know how to make a cat5 shielded cable ?
[01:16] <seidos> sebsebseb: is it an R400, R300, R800, X700
[01:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: lspci  and pastebin the output I think that will say it
[01:16] <zebastian0> i am on a compaq presario cq40-32la laptop
[01:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: I don't know what card he has
[01:16] <bro> sebsebseb, it's odd that x broke just when i removed the manually installed drivers and got the ones that ship with ubuntu, not the other way around
[01:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: however shane2peru did tell him to install a driver for his card earlier
[01:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: and provided a link for it
[01:16] <bro> zebastian0, lspci | grep VGA
[01:16] <seidos> zebastian0: have you tried lspci | grep Display
[01:17] <zebastian0> seidos http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/interactive/CQ40/model.html?jumpid=in_HP3D_3d/NBT/CQ40|3DCENTRAL|other
[01:17] <Bluey> I have this coded in /etc/identd.conf
[01:17] <Bluey> #-- User and group (from passwd database) to run as
[01:17] <Bluey> server:user = identd
[01:17] <Bluey> but getting this error message
[01:17] <Bluey> identd[28850]: reply to <IP_ADDRESS>: 63356 , 6667 : ERROR: NO-USER
[01:17] <FloodBot3> Bluey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <Bluey> What does it want?
[01:17] <Neroon> beatbreaker: I see. But then I'm no help for you, since I never had xinerama running here. Sorry
[01:17] <seidos> bro: interesting
[01:17] <bro> seidos, what?
[01:18] <seidos> bro: lspci | grep VGA and lspci | grep Display have almost the same line
[01:18] <Bluey> i am having a problem with identd -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/271286/  what does it want?
[01:18] <beatbreaker> anyone else? how can i get a program to open on the second screen using xinerama?
[01:18] <bro> seidos, yes, but Display doen't return anything on me
[01:18] <seidos> bro: interesting
[01:19] <aleron6> does anybody here know the command to stop the update manager for popping up constantly
[01:19] <seidos> beatbreaker: I don't know
[01:19] <sebsebseb> aleron6: it should  pop up when you got updates, and then you should install them
[01:19] <aleron6> well its getting anoying give me the command
[01:19] <bro> zebastian0, what's the model of the notebook?
[01:19] <sebsebseb> aleron6: the wrong command?
[01:19] <aleron6> and it been popping up to many times
[01:19] <sebsebseb> aleron6: if you have updates for Ubuntu install them :)
[01:19] <aleron6> to make it stop popping up
[01:20] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[01:20] <seidos> zebastian0: type lspci | grep VGA it is easier than that website you linked to
[01:20] <Bluey> aleron  system/admin/update manager
[01:20] <sebsebseb> aleron6: the best way to stop it popping up, is by installing the updates
[01:20] <zebastian0> how do you do the horizonal line?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> aleron6: if you just leave the updates,  it will remind you that there are updates
[01:20] <seidos> bro: it's a CQ40
[01:20] <zebastian0> i mean
[01:20] <seidos> zebastian0: shift backslash
[01:20] <zebastian0> ok
[01:20] <aleron6> but i dont need the updates
[01:20] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[01:20] <zebastian0> it's a CQ40-324LA
[01:21] <bro> seidos, that's the series, what's the exact model?
[01:21] <sebsebseb> aleron6: you might think that you don't need them, but you should still install them, because they are security updates for Ubuntu
[01:21] <mattwj2002> I got HDTV playing on my netbook
[01:21] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:21] <zruty> How to start ... motd for example, or display any other text file, at startup, without having to start an xterm in gnome?
[01:21] <zebastian0> seidos, bro, here's it ATI Radeon™ HD 3200
[01:21] <bro> seidos, zebastian0, hd3200 series?
[01:21] <zebastian0> bro, this is my laptop
[01:21] <zebastian0> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ec/es/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329742-89318-89318-3781140-3894786.html
[01:21] <Neroon> beatbreaker: Just to make sure: Are you sure you're running xinerama?
[01:21] <zebastian0> it's in spanish but it's intelligible
[01:22] <seidos> brb
[01:22] <josh> is there something wrong with the feisty package repo?
[01:22] <beatbreaker> i'm 100% sure i'm using xinerama, it behaves like xinerama
[01:22] <beatbreaker> the settings say i'm using xinerama
[01:22] <sebsebseb> josh: uhmm I guess so,  since fesity is no longer supported
[01:22] <sebsebseb> !7.04 |  josh
[01:22] <Neroon> beatbreaker: hm
[01:23] <bro> seidos, google retuns a lot of problems with hd3200, and 8.10 too
[01:23] <sebsebseb> josh: maybe the server version has support just about still,  but the desktop nope
[01:23] <bro> seidos,  http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=1383
[01:23]  * zebastian0 clicks too
[01:23] <josh> sebsebseb: yes, but why then are older versions still on the server?
[01:24] <Loder3331> what's the name of the off topic channel again?
[01:24] <Neroon> beatbreaker: But isnt dragging windows one of the basics in xinerama?
[01:24] <josh> I have a server on edgy and want to upgrade
[01:24] <sebsebseb> josh: Is it the server version?
[01:24] <josh> don't I have to go from edgy to feisty then to jaunty?
[01:24] <josh> sebsebseb: yes
[01:24] <sebsebseb> josh: ok for proper servers 8.04 is recommended, that's also the LTS
[01:24] <sebsebseb> !lts |  josh
[01:25] <Bluey> okay I will re-ask my question later....
[01:25] <sebsebseb> josh: if your on edgy, it would be much easier to clean install
[01:25] <zruty> Does somebody know the link to the site that explains to fix grub after reinstalling Windows?
[01:25] <zebastian0> bro, can you point out the log from earlier on today when shane2peru was here?
[01:25] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[01:25] <sebsebseb> josh: I guess the repos are still there for versions such as 7.04  since yes got to go through versions,   but they don't have to add other updates to them,   except the server updates if that's still supported
[01:26] <sebsebseb> !edgy
[01:26] <bro> zebastian0, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/15/%23ubuntu.txt
[01:26] <sebsebseb> josh: that's unlucky in a way, if it had been 6.06  you could have upgraded directly to 8.04
[01:27] <sebsebseb> josh: now you have to go through  7.04 and  7.10  to  upgrade
[01:27] <beatbreaker> that's why i'm using xinerama, but i need this script to open on the second display http://pastebin.com/m6064a8aa
[01:27] <josh> sebsebseb: but if I change edgy in sources.list to feisty I just get a bunch of 404 errors on apt-get update
[01:28] <josh> so I can't goto 7.04
[01:28] <sebsebseb> josh: I think I have been in here before,  when other people have had similar problems to yours
[01:28] <josh> !7.10
[01:28] <sebsebseb> josh: It would be easier for you to clean install and put 8.04 server on
[01:28] <sebsebseb> josh: or would it hmm, what kind of server you got?
[01:28] <josh> blech
[01:28] <KittyKis> !eol
[01:29] <josh> I'd rather step the versions
[01:29] <josh> I guess I should have kept up :)
[01:29] <sebsebseb> josh: yeah with the LTS's at least
[01:29] <telaviv> I need to have any other version other than gcc 4.3 on ubuntu. How can i do this?
[01:30] <Loder3331> Anyone have any idea why the resolution would be the same on another distro as it is here on ubuntu, but on the other distro, everything is too big?
[01:30] <aleron6> does anybody know a good nvidia card of ubuntu
[01:30] <zebastian0> bro, what do you recomend i install? 804 or jaunty?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> aleron6: I think most of them are
[01:30] <altf2o> i think pretty much all nVidia cards are just fine on Ubuntu.
[01:30] <sebsebseb> aleron6: and then you get a driver from the  Ubuntu repo and usaully that works
[01:30] <Loder3331> get a gtx 295 co-op ftw edition
[01:30] <sebsebseb> aleron6: the very latest Nivida cards though,  those you might get issues with
[01:30]  * altf2o i've stuck with them specifically because the Linux support is outstanding.
[01:30] <Loder3331> like mine, the one I just mentioned
[01:31] <Loder3331> :(
[01:31] <sebsebseb> josh: ok mirrors
[01:31] <dab_> Can anyone help me get terminal to run/look like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17956&d=1161470797
[01:31] <Guest23739> Anyone know how to fix PAM? I cant login to anything, im in the root recovery mode now.
[01:31] <sebsebseb> josh: on the desktop  version,  you can change the mirror and get the updates  from some where else, I don't know about the server
[01:31] <bro> zebastian0, i just switched to 9.04, not using linux for quite some time, so i don't really know the 8.10
[01:32] <Guest23739> su/sudo just segfault
[01:32] <zebastian0> bro, is there another log from when i was tlking to shane2peru? i think at one point he said he had the same trouble and i think he nailed it on the head, what the original problem was
[01:32]  * altf2o has had no issues w/ 9.04. It's support especially for my Wacom Bamboo tablet out of the box, has been exceptional. I see no reason to not use it unless you have a specific reason to stick w/ an older version.
[01:33] <beatbreaker> i need to know how to get this script http://pastebin.com/m6064a8aa to open the app on the second screen when in xinerama
[01:33] <bro> zebastian0, i don't think so, ask sebsebseb, i'm quite new to irc :P
[01:34] <sebsebseb> altf2o: indeed,  even though the driver is closed source hmm
[01:34] <sebsebseb> altf2o: that was in reply to your Nivida comment
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !server | josh
[01:35] <altf2o> yep. If closed makes my product run flawlessly under this platform, then i'm all for it.
[01:35] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, in  your assessment, should i install jaunty or the last LTS?
[01:35] <bro> zebastian0, i'd say go with Jaunty, there are surely improvements over 8.10. why else it would be a new release then?
[01:35] <zebastian0> seidos, do you think jaunty is the way to go?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I guess 9.04 will be alright, as long as you install the correct ATI driver
[01:36] <zebastian0> sebsebseb can you help me install the wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run on the command line once i do a clean install?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> bro: not sure why he is talking about 8.10 now,   we were talking about 8.04 before
[01:36] <bro> oh
[01:36] <zebastian0> bro: i meant 8.04
[01:36] <zebastian0> that's the long term stable version right?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> bro: and 8.10 and 8.04  have pretty much the same xorg or whatever, where as 8.04 doesn't which means at least with certain ATI cards it's better
[01:37] <sebsebseb> bro: ah
[01:37] <sebsebseb> bro: 9.04 and 8.10  have  pretty much the same xorg or whatever above
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !lts |  zebastian0
[01:38] <Neroon> beatbreaker: What does the script do now? Nothing?
[01:38] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, do you think it would work better if i installed hardy heron instead of jaunty?
[01:38] <dsdeiz> how do you do a minimal install again?
[01:38] <bro> sebsebseb, and you think ATI did worse on 9.10 than before? cause it's a possibility, but...
[01:38] <dsdeiz> !minimal > dsdeiz
[01:38] <nkei0> What's a good chatroom to go to for hardware questions?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> bro: I don't know
[01:39] <seidos> back
[01:39] <beatbreaker> the script does nothing, when run in the termial it obviously says that the second display doesn't exist because i'm running xinerama now and it's effectivaly one display
[01:39] <sebsebseb> bro: I know  Intel graphic cards can be a right problem on 9.04,   people have had  ATI issues,   SIS or whatever it was won't work,   and  Nivida  is  :)
[01:39] <bro> zebastian0, just install the 9.10 and if you're in trouble, blame me :)
[01:39] <zebastian0> seidos, do you think i should install hardy heron with the ati ones?
[01:39] <Loder3331> my gtx 295 caused me to have to re-install ubuntu
[01:39] <Loder3331> nvidia card
[01:40] <sebsebseb> bro: 9.10 not yet
[01:40] <bro> 9.04
[01:40] <bro> damn
[01:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> What does /var/lib/samba do, and what kind of bad things will happen if its deleted?
[01:40] <seidos> zebastian0: did you find out what video chipset you have in your laptop?
[01:41] <zebastian0> not to sound ignorant, but my assumption, gut feeling or whatever is that since 8.04 has been there for a long time as it is meant to be, it should be by now more debugged, but what do i know i'm a noob
[01:41] <seidos> zebastian0: 8.04 is probably a safer bet
[01:41] <ae> ubuntu hardy is currently using mysql server 5.0.x, intrepid+ are using 5.1.x - will hardy ever move up to 5.1? how can I find out about these policies?
[01:41] <bro> sebsebseb, that's what i told seidos, i don't think these driver issues are just jaunty-related
[01:41] <seidos> zebastian0: I suppose there is the possibility that a newer version works better with ati graphics cards
[01:41] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: install 8.04 with a seperate home :)  then try 9.10 when it 's out,   I am thinking,  or give 9.04 another go and make sure you install the correct driver
[01:42] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: well you got an external hard disk now,  so you don't need a seperate home as such now anyway
[01:42] <seidos> zebastian0: I know with my intel graphics card, 8.04 worked better after installation
[01:42] <test34> Loder3331, why
[01:42] <zebastian0> seidos, my chipset: ATI Radeon™ HD 3200
[01:42] <Loder3331> I installed the driver recommended to me by ubuntu and upon restart, I couldn't get anything on my screen
[01:42] <beatbreaker> what's the IRC channel for the X people?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: yes 8.04 has  a older and completly differnet  version of xorg from what 8.10 and 9.04 have
[01:43] <beachdaze> need help setting up a webcam, a chicony CNF7051 specifically.  It works in cheese, but not in skype or tinychat..any hints please?
[01:43] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, you think it might work better for my ATI Radeon HD 3200
[01:43] <zebastian0> is there a way of checking?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: 9.10 yes maybe when that's out
[01:43] <test34> Loder3331, you could have edited you /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the video driver from nvidia to nv
[01:43] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Live CD
[01:43] <sebsebseb> zebastian0:  trying Ubuntu from  a Live CD is the way to test hardware before installing
[01:43] <Loder3331> I'm new to linux and I have no idea how to do anything like that, and nobody here could help me with it at the time so I just reinstalled
[01:44] <test34> Loder3331, thats what I just had to do after an upgrade in Karmic alpha
[01:44] <durt> beatbreaker, #xorg, use searchirc.com
[01:44] <seidos> zebastian0: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+ati--radeon-hd-3200?id=6832
[01:44] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, bro, seidos, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004955
[01:44] <CoJaBo-Eee> Why would deleting a printer FUBAR the system? o_O
[01:44] <Loder3331> test34, do you have any idea why things would be displaying incorrectly in another distribution of linux, with the same resolution? Everything is way too big and I can't do anything with it
[01:45] <test34> Loder3331, you'll know for next time
[01:45] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: deleting how?
[01:46] <bro> zebastian0, those are 64bit drivers, i'm not going that far to tell it's the same thing with 32bit
[01:46] <wzssyqa> lib32asound2-plugins replace ia32libs,is it a bug?
[01:46] <seidos> zebastian0: "...i have no loyalty except to eye candy."  hahahaha
[01:46] <beatbreaker> durt,
[01:46] <beatbreaker> durt, thankx
[01:46] <seidos> zebastian0: are you running 64bit?
[01:46] <test34> Loder3331, you could try to use the same /etcv/X11/xorg.conf in the other distribution (save the one that works right on a usb key or something)... are you sure it was the same resolution ?
[01:46] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: I deleted a non-existant printer via settings GUI, and that massively broke the system.
[01:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you need to install the correct driver for your archecture  so  for 32bit or 64bit in your case it's 32bit I belive?
[01:47] <zebastian0> seidos, bro, sebsebseb, my concern is this, shane2peru, said that he had the same problem with his ATI chip, and that it's because it overheats with the repo drivers, that ihave to wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run but i wonder if that will work for hardy
[01:47] <thiagocrepaldi> i just installed slapd (openldap server) and executed sudo dpkg-reconfigure slapd to configure ldap server. it's done and working. However, i can't find slapd.conf anywhere. Where does ubuntu store it ? I am using a brand new ubuntu 9.04 server edition
[01:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: Bug 303458 apearently.
[01:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/303458
[01:47] <test34> thiagocrepaldi, did you look in /etc
[01:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> What does /var/lib/samba do, and what kind of bad things will happen if its deleted?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: that driver is for 9.04
[01:47] <zebastian0> thats why i'm asking
[01:48] <zebastian0> if it would be better to reinstall jaunty
[01:48] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: it could maybe also work on hardy, but  hardy will probably  be fine  for your ATI card
[01:48] <bro> zebastian0, those are the latest drivers
[01:48] <ugliefrog> is ther a open office channel ? i need help on a formula
[01:48] <zebastian0> and by the way, that seems to be for 64 and i'm 32
[01:48] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: it's samba: file sharing protocol windows<>GNU/Linux
[01:48] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: the latest ATI drivers probably aren't even made for the older version of xorg that hardy has
[01:48] <Loder3331> yeah I checked using xrandrx. I'm not sure if that'll work. It only runs off of the dvd. It's specifically for gaming. I can't really see anything, so I can't really get into my folders or anything. I suppose I could use the terminal and try copying it
[01:48] <thiagocrepaldi> test34, yes. it should be on /etc/ldap
[01:48] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: why you want to delete it?
[01:48] <zebastian0> shane2peru, said that he has the same problem, basically that his computer freezes when playing a movie because of overheating
[01:48] <thiagocrepaldi> i looked in /etc, /usr and /var using find command
[01:49] <durt> ugliefrog, http://searchirc.com
[01:49] <zebastian0> sebsebseb that's exactly why i'm torn as to whether i should use hardy or jaunty
[01:49] <bro> zebastian0, 9.8 [9.9 version], those are the latest, the same on ATI website and ubuntu repos
[01:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you can test your card using the hardy Live CD, before installing anything
[01:49] <durt> thiagocrepaldi, if no one knows here try #ubuntu-server
[01:49] <seidos> zebastian0: they recommend here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004955 that you install the restricted drivers suggested by the OS
[01:49] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: Its currupt, preventing login of any kind. Deleting the whole  dir fixes the problem, but what side-effects will that cause when I boot back into normal mode?
[01:49] <ugliefrog> durbin, ty
[01:50] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: the Hardy repo will have a differnet driver for your  card than  what the  jauntey repo has
[01:50] <zebastian0> seidos, yes but those were the oens that kept getting the computer stuck whenever i'd play a movie
[01:50] <bro> well, i never heared of "overheating drivers" before....
[01:50] <sebsebseb> bro: your looking at the offical log?
[01:50] <zebastian0> shane2peru said he had the same problem, that the drivers from the repo overheated his computer
[01:50] <zebastian0> right
[01:50] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ok  the driver from the repo didn't work, and you ended up with problems?
[01:50] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: hopefully none if you don't use the protocol for shares, better would probably be reinstalling the samba packages though.
[01:50] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: then you try from the website and yep problems?
[01:50] <bro> sebsebseb, no, why?
[01:50] <zebastian0> sebsebseb yes
[01:51] <zebastian0> ultimately i want no problems whatsoever
[01:51] <sebsebseb> bro: oh something about heating before
[01:51] <docko> i have a software raid1, a fail event has been detected on /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2. then /dev/sdb just disappeared, how is it possible?
[01:51] <akn> umm ... i am having some trouble configuring dual boot ... what does root (hd0,0) means ?
[01:51] <zebastian0> i want to run compix
[01:51] <zebastian0> compiz
[01:51] <zebastian0> and be able to watch movies
[01:51] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ok so both caused problems,  the repo driver, as well as from the ATI site?
[01:51] <test34> thiagocrepaldi, find /etc -name "slapd.conf"
[01:51] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: I have several shares, but the settings for those are in /etc/sambasomething.conf, arent they?
[01:51] <Loder3331> test34, where can I find that file? is it /etcv/X11/xorg.conf from my home directory? I don't see an etcv directory in my home folder, with hidden showing
[01:51] <bro> bro> well, i never heared of "overheating drivers" before....
[01:51] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: well obviosuly
[01:52] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: This has been going on for quite a while now,   I think it's time for you to  install  8.04,  test it from the Live CD first even
[01:52] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, can you help me install the wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run ones
[01:52] <zebastian0> and if it doesn't work
[01:52] <zebastian0> i go back to hardy?
[01:52] <thiagocrepaldi> test34, i already tried that before asking here... it should be there.. i already reinstalled it several times.
[01:53] <seidos> sebsebseb: I 2nd that
[01:53] <zebastian0> ok can you link me to the hardy heron 86 architectuure live cd one?
[01:53] <zebastian0> i can't find it on the ubuntu website
[01:53] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: maybe  seidos can hep you install that driver,  I  am not sure what to do with runs
[01:53] <zebastian0> just the newest
[01:53] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: "dpkg -S /var/lib/samba" shows that it's part of the "samba-common" package, you could try reinstalling it.
[01:53] <arcitens> Is there an easy way to change pulseaudio output devices? I have speakers and a wireless headphones and the only way I can figure out to get sound to go through the headphones is to open up 'pulseaudio volume control' and manually move a playing stream.
[01:54] <zebastian0> seidos here http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ which is the live cd?
[01:54] <thiagocrepaldi> test34, ubuntu 9.04 do not use slapd.conf. i found out on #ubuntu-server
[01:54] <zebastian0> the alternate or the desktop?+
[01:54] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you can download the Live CD for 8.10 if you want and try   that firs
[01:54] <thiagocrepaldi> durt, i got help there. thanks.
[01:54] <zebastian0> sebsebseb http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ which is the livecd?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: 8.10 is after all better than 8.04 in certain ways that are worth it :)
[01:54] <zebastian0> such as?
[01:54] <seidos> zebastian0: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[01:54] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: this is a good idea to try both versions 8.04  and 8.10 from Live CD
[01:54] <ScarletSwordfish> I'm trying to install X-Chat.  I tried to ./configure it but it said "cannot find glib".  So I downloaded and unpackaged GLib and tried to ./configure it but it says ./configure: no such file or directory. And indeed there is none.  So what do I do with it?
[01:55] <Gnea> zebastian0: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:55] <zebastian0> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.3-desktop-i386.iso <---livecd?
[01:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: It seems to have recreated the dir and some of its contents on its own. I'm hoping thhe worst that can happen is I lose my Samba settings?
[01:55] <test34> Loder3331, it is not in your home directory, it is in the root of your hard drive
[01:55] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy  for 8.04 yep  and  http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid  for  8.10 yep
[01:56] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, why do you need to compile it ?
[01:56] <zebastian0> will the programs that run on jaunty run on hardy? like skype and kde 4.3 etc?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yes that's the ISO for hardy
[01:56] <ScarletSwordfish> X-chat? because it's not compiled, as far as i know
[01:56] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: on the actsual ubuntu site hardy is  also still available as a download by the way
[01:56] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: more likely, since you're remove a library, that you loose the samba functionality, until you reinstall it.
[01:56] <thorsten11> exit
[01:57] <kevin___> hello
[01:57] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: Its just databases.
[01:57] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, add universe repository
[01:57] <Loder3331> test34, how do I get there from the terminal? what's the command to go to the root
[01:57] <zebastian0> ¿Will the apps that work on jaunty, like the latest version of kopete, nicotine, kde, gnome work on hardy?
[01:57] <test34> Loder333, type: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf
[01:57] <ScarletSwordfish> test34: is that a command?
[01:57] <kevin___> hey i am new to this
[01:57] <sebsebseb> !welcome | kevin___
[01:58] <sebsebseb> !new |  kevin___
[01:58] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, no, use synaptic package manager,  settings - repositories
[01:58] <kevin___> ooh
[01:58] <kevin___> thanks
[01:58] <thiagocrepaldi> ATI do notprovide support to a lot of it's hardware on your recent releases. my ati raden x1250 do not work on ubuntu jaunty with latest fglrx drivers because of it. damn it. MAYBE it's the same problm you might have
[01:58] <sebsebseb> kevin___: np
[01:58] <test34> Loder3331, then xorg.conf will be in your home folder
[01:58] <arand> zebastian0: possibly, but at a higher risk of problems and more inconvenience of installing.
[01:58] <test34> Loder3331, type: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf
[01:58] <zebastian0> that's it i'm reinstalling jaunty then
[01:58] <Loder3331> yeah, but when I want to paste it into the correct place in the other distro
[01:58] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: what?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I thought you were going 8.04?
[01:58] <zebastian0> well, i want the latest kde and nicotine and skype
[01:59] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: there's a ppa for KDE 4.3 for hardy
[01:59] <beachdaze> anyone with tinychat.com expereience?  can't get my webcam to be recognized
[01:59] <kevin___> hmm
[01:59] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: skype you get from there website,   and   what's nicotine ?
[01:59] <seidos> zebastian0: you should go with LTS version
[01:59] <kevin___> am i kburts now?
[01:59] <kevin___> hmm
[01:59] <seidos> zebastian0: other people have better experience with it
[01:59] <zebastian0> besides i can always try to install the ATI drivers properly with that guide shane2peru left
[01:59] <zebastian0> will it have the same cool compiz effects from jaunty?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Hardy is actsaully better than 9.04 in certain ways :)
[02:00] <seidos> zebastian0: install LTS, get ati card working in it, then if you want to be courageous, upgrade
[02:00] <zebastian0> will it work faster?
[02:00] <zebastian0> will it overheat less?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: just like Intrepid is better than Jauntey in certain ways
[02:00] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: and hopefuly 9.10 will be better than  all of those
[02:00] <Loder3331> test34, I have the file on my flash drive, now I need to know what to type in the other distro to put it where it goes
[02:01] <zebastian0> i am downloading hardy on this laptop
[02:01] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yeah what  seidos said,  and you can also try  your card  using the 8.04  and 8.10 Live CD before installing anything, and then pick one that it works with
[02:01] <zebastian0> meanwhile i'll try to reinstall jaunty
[02:01] <kevin___> i cant seem to be able to change my name to "kburts" on irssi
[02:01] <kevin___> can anyone help?
[02:01] <zebastian0> and see if i can install those drivers shane2peru said
[02:01] <zebastian0> if they don't work
[02:01] <zebastian0> off to hardy i go
[02:01] <test34> Loder3331, cp /media/flash-drive/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[02:02] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[02:02] <test34> Loder3331, (you need to replace "flash-drive" with whatever..)
[02:02] <Loder3331> it's showing as disk on my desktop, would that be it?
[02:02] <test34> AssociateX, #kubuntu ?
[02:02] <kevin___> i cant seem to be able to change my name to "kburts" on irssi, can anyone tell me how
[02:02] <kevin___> please
[02:03] <robb> hello, need some google-fu help, trying to search for info on encrypting an external usb harddrive, have various utilities installed already (9.04) "encrypt external usb drive"
[02:03] <swajr> kevin___:  type /nick kburts
[02:03] <kevin___> thanks!
[02:03] <Kburts> ahaa!
[02:03] <test34> robb, try truecrypt
[02:03] <dsdeiz> lolz
[02:03] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ok
[02:03] <Kburts> thanks!
[02:03] <swajr> no problem
[02:03] <LordMetroid> Is the Ubuntu Netbook remix faster than the normal version?
[02:03] <robb> k
[02:04] <sebsebseb> LordMetroid: they are differnet
[02:04] <sebsebseb> LordMetroid: for netbooks the remix would be recommended though
[02:04] <demo> hi - i cant write in hebrew with mIRC under wine, what can i do?
[02:04] <zebastian0> seidos what do you think about my plan?
[02:04] <test34> sebsebseb, he knows they are different.. they would not make 2 version if they were the same
[02:04] <Loder3331> test34, I just tried doing it here first, before I go to my other distro. It said Permission denied. To I have to put something in front of the command?
[02:04] <CoJaBo-Eee> What all functions does Samba do? I thought it just provided SMB shares and stuff, but apparently it does more?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> demo: ask in #winehq
[02:04] <LordMetroid> I am going to buy myzelf a Zotac IONITX motherboard for use in my HTPC/server so I am unsure if I want the netbook remix or the normal one
[02:04] <demo> thanks sebsebseb
[02:04] <test34> Loder3331, sudo
[02:04] <sebsebseb> test34: ok
[02:05] <sebsebseb> demo: no problem and good luck
[02:05] <robb> test34: "easycrypt" is avail on sources...this works?
[02:05] <seidos> zebastian0: good luck
[02:05] <sebsebseb> seidos: yeah good luck
[02:05] <sebsebseb> seidos: ah
[02:05] <test34> robb, never tried that one sorry
[02:05] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: above that was for you
[02:05] <robb> m, hm
[02:05] <LordMetroid> I just want to run XBMC now and than and mainly use it as my web-server, fileserver, git repositories, etc...
[02:05] <robb> give'r a whirl i reckon
[02:06] <DJAshnar> Question : On an Asus EEE PC 701 4G surf, running Ubuntu 9.04, how can I fix the SD card mount issue?
[02:06] <Loder3331> ok thanks test34, I'm going to go try that and see what happens
[02:06] <dsdeiz> !widhe
[02:07] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: It does pretty much anything pertaining to sharing between Unix and Windows. File shares, printer shares, setting up as a sharing server........
[02:08] <zebastian0> what is wubi=
[02:08] <bobertdos> !wubi | zebastian0
[02:08] <robb> test34: apt-get truecrypt?
[02:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> bobertdos: Well, currupt Samba config files FUBARd any kind of login (su/sudo, ssh, even text terminals), so something more is going on o_O
[02:08]  * CoJaBo-Eee still doesnt get how deleting a printer can FUBAR the entire system
[02:09] <test34> robb, the good thing with truecypt is that it is also availble for Windows: http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads
[02:09] <robb> windows :)
[02:10] <test34> robb, just copy linux version and windows version on your external drive and you can use it anywhere (they also have mac)
[02:10] <robb> oh i see
[02:10] <robb> well, i think for now the hdd stays attached to this box
[02:10] <robb> but thanks for future pointer!
[02:10] <DJAshnar> How do I get Ubuntu 9.04 to recognize the SD card on my Asus 701 4G surf?
[02:10] <zebastian0> sebsebseb if i chose catalan on my ubuntu install it won't change the outputs from terminal or the sudo apt get style commands right? it's basically gui and keyboard layout settings right?
[02:10] <test34> ok np robb
[02:11] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I don't know, maybe seidos or someone like that knows
[02:11] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: Well, once installed, Samba does integrate itself into the OS pretty heavily, and I know the Samba=Common packages contain some shared components.
[02:12] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: also if you do a thread with loads of details about  your card on the forum, that could be useful
[02:12] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: and about stuff that you did to try and get it working
[02:13] <Loafers> How do I reset ubutnu font defaults?  I installed wine and it f****** up my fonts and this is the third time this has happened.  I even tried removing msfonts and all those fonts but it still looks terrible... Why hasn't this been FIXED!?!??!!?
[02:13] <zebastian0> seidos, if i chose catalan as the default language on ubuntu it will not change the outputs of shell and so into catalan right? those settings are pretty much for the gui right?
[02:13] <CoJaBo-Eee> bobertdos: Do you know anything about the /var/lib/samba folder? Deleting it fixes the system to a usable state (at least in recovery mode), but is it going to blow up once I reboot to normal mode? oo_O
[02:13] <MagnoFlux> my ubuntus graphics messed up - how can i fix it
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !language |  Loafers
[02:14] <rob____> anyone interested in helping me with a dependency problem i'm having instaling pidgin on 8.10?
[02:14] <seidos> zebastian0: I don't know what catalan is
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Loafers: ask in #winehq
[02:14] <Loafers> sebsebseb: it also happens when i install msttcorefonts, and when i remove the package the fonts dont' revert back to the original
[02:15] <ScarletSwordfish> test34: i do not see any "add universe repositories" option
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Loafers: purge the package or something, and you can delete the hidden .wine folder in home,  to get like a default Wine again
[02:15] <zaccour> should i install epiphany browser or epiphany gecko browser?
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Loafers: and the menu shortcuts are in  .local  I think
[02:15] <Loafers> sebsebseb: i purged all the font packages
[02:15] <Loafers> sebsebseb: sudo dpkg --purge ttf-arphic-uming ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho ttf-thai-tlwg ttf-arabeyes ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-lao ttf-malayalam-fonts ttf-unfonts-core msttcorefonts
[02:16] <zaccour> epiphany vs epiphany gecko which should i choose? google is no help
[02:16] <sebsebseb> zaccour: by default it uses Gecko I think :)  ,but  Webkit is also a good rendering engine
[02:16] <zaccour> sebsebseb, whats webkit?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> zaccour: even though it was started by Apple who aren't  exactly Linux friendly, but  Webkit is open source so :d  it's also  Apples  fork of KTHML  what Konqueror uses
[02:17] <sebsebseb> zaccour: Gecko and Webkit are rendering enginges
[02:17] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: I can't say I know much about that directory. It doesn't look like it would necessarily be the most damaging directory to remove though. Have you tried purging the packages?
[02:17] <zaccour> sebastien_, but how do i know which one to choose?
[02:17] <Esteth> Does anyone know how to get the vmhgfs module to compile for VMware tools on the latest ubuntu?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> zaccour: by default  you should get Gecko
[02:17] <zebastian0> what is the advantage of the ext4 files system?
[02:18] <zaccour> sebsebseb, so i should select epiphany gecko instead of epiphany?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: fast boot up, fast shut down, and fast disk checking
[02:18] <zebastian0> will the next LTS have that file system?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yes by default and also 9.10 will have it by default
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zaccour: sudo apt-get install epiphany
[02:18] <ammadeusy> hello
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zaccour: then it will also install anything else that it needs to install
[02:18] <jmarsden> zebastian0: See http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/New_ext4_features
[02:18] <ammadeusy> can i ask basic questions here?
[02:18] <zaccour> thanks
[02:19] <sebsebseb> !ask | ammadeusy
[02:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> bobertdos: No, but it doesnt look like that would have worked. AFAICT, that dir only stores config for features I dont use. So I think I;m safe. I hope...
[02:19] <sebsebseb> zaccour: it's just Epiphany can also now use Webkit
[02:19] <asdqwe> winbox on kubuntu?...
[02:19] <zebastian0> is it possible for me to install ext4 on jaunty?
[02:19] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, you cant also: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: Yeah, I'd think so.
[02:19] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yes, but it's not properly stable, because of the kernel they have and that
[02:19] <ammadeusy> i was trying to join this channel using command /join ubuntu
[02:19] <ammadeusy> but it didnt work
[02:20] <ammadeusy> i had to use /list
[02:20] <ammadeusy> and then click twice on ubunut
[02:20] <zebastian0> !cat
[02:20] <ammadeusy> how do i connect here directly
[02:20] <ammadeusy> ?
[02:20] <jmarsden> ammadeusy:  /join #ubuntu     the # matters
[02:20] <sebsebseb> zacktu: oh  yeah  the command I gave that will put a game on
[02:20] <ammadeusy> ah ok
[02:20] <ammadeusy> thank you
[02:20] <sebsebseb> zacktu: you want to do this  sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[02:20] <ammadeusy> other stuff about connection, if you will
[02:20] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: No problem.
[02:20] <ammadeusy> i am behind a proxy server
[02:20]  * CoJaBo-Eee crosses fingers, and reboots
[02:20] <sebsebseb> zacktu: Why are you using alternative browsers, what's wrong with Firefox in Ubuntu for you?
[02:20] <ammadeusy> this proxy works with http 80, 443, 81 and that's all.
[02:21]  * CoJaBo-Eee waits
[02:21] <ammadeusy> how can i connect here if the proxy does not allow 6667?
[02:21] <Flannel> ammadeusy: 8001
[02:21] <ammadeusy> flannel: do that work for efnet.port80.se as well?
[02:21] <ammadeusy> *does
[02:22]  * zebastian0 installing jaunty in catalan
[02:22] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: catalan is a language?
[02:22] <growlithe> ammadeusy: The server tells you the ports you can use when you first connect
[02:22] <deco> sebsebseb: it's spoken in spain
[02:22] <Flannel> ammadeusy: Ah.  Use: http://webchat.freenode.net/
[02:22] <n-iCe> zebastian0: are you spanish?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> deco: ah when you say that I am thinking ah yes,  since there was this woman...
[02:23] <Guest3212> hey guys...i currently have a test server, and then my actual....now my friend wants me to build him a server and i want to do it....but i want to make sure that any updates he gets have been tested for problems on my server...so how can i set up a repository to auto update from and how do i place updates from the normal repository that i deem stable into my repository
[02:23] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Why not do it in English?   Your English is good enough, plus  if your going to use this channal for support it will make things easier
[02:23] <sebsebseb> deco: well I think I have heard of   it before
[02:23] <zaccour> ok i installed epiphany, now where can i find the epiphany icon? there is none
[02:24] <sebsebseb> zaccour: ah yes this issue, easy to fix though
[02:24] <ammadeusy> flannel: didnt get this webchat... why use that?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> zaccour: What's wrong with Firefox in Ubuntu for you?    I also quite like Galeon as an alternative
[02:24] <Flannel> ammadeusy: If your proxy doesn't allow you to connect other than those ports, you can use the webchat
[02:24] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, can i install ubuntu on a netbook using a normal livecd and an external cd drive?
[02:24] <zaccour> sebastien_, epiphany is faster and more stable from my experience
[02:24] <DigitalKiwi> irssi > weechat
[02:24] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I thought you were going to re install on a lap top or desktop, not a netbook?
[02:25] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: Because you say you can't get to the IRC server ports via your proxy... http://webchat.freenode.net/ will use port 80 which your proxy supports.
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> oh webchat, not weecchat
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> >.>
[02:25] <sebsebseb> zaccour: from my experience Konqueror is faster,  and even Opera
[02:25] <deco> zaccour: go to system-preferences-main menu, and select interent and just check epiphany
[02:25] <ammadeusy> flannel: yes. the problem is that i need use blow fish for encryption
[02:25] <deco> internet*
[02:25] <ammadeusy> flannel: gonna work in a place that they use sniffer for IM and etc
[02:25] <usser> Guest3212, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286
[02:25] <usser> dlp1982, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286
[02:25] <zaccour> deco, i will try that thanks
[02:25] <sebsebseb> zaccour: also    the rendering enginge and security are the two most important things when it comes to a browser
[02:25] <dlp1982> thanks
[02:26] <ammadeusy> flannel: i dont want to get busted or have my privacy in jeopardy
[02:26] <sebsebseb> engine
[02:26] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: Then don't IM from work :)
[02:26] <ammadeusy> haha
[02:26] <sebsebseb> zaccour: not speed or any of that
[02:26] <ammadeusy> sometimes it is needed, dude.
[02:26] <deco> zaccour: you are welcome , tell me if it works
[02:26] <sebsebseb> zaccour: also re installing the package,  should add it to the menu, or logging out of Ubuntu and back in again
[02:26] <zaccour> deco, still don't see the icon in the menu
[02:27] <zaccour> sebsebseb, so i need to uninstall then reinstall?
[02:27] <deco> zaccour: log out and log in again
[02:27] <ammadeusy> well. ok. thank you anyway. :)
[02:27] <zaccour> deco, i will try that brb thanks
[02:28] <sebsebseb> zaccour: plus to help with browser/renderingengine market share,  it's  better for people to be using Firefox :)   since that's number two after the worst browser of all IE.   That will also help with web standards support :)  which  helps make the web become better overall.
[02:28] <IdleOne> When trying to play .avi with movie player or VLC both start up and crash. libdvdcss2 and ubuntu-restricted-extras are both installed. any ideas?
[02:28] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: If you tried encrypting IM on my network to try and hide policy violation, I'd probably spot the weird looking encrypted stream, note what the endpoint is, and bust you for that anyway... if you want to work there, and not be busted, don't IM from there.  Period.
[02:28] <jdsandeson> anyone have any luck setting up brodcom wireless under jaunty?
[02:28] <bboru> can someone quickly tell me how to unmute outputs on startup via cli?  i have these ALSA drivers that mute themselves after every reboot.
[02:29] <deco> jdsandeson: what is wrong ?
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaggynl: that's one way to do it yes
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaggynl: not uninstall though
[02:29] <zaccour> still not in the menu :(
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaccour: just re install
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaccour: or log out of Ubuntu and back in again as I said
[02:29] <zaccour> sebsebseb, so i just uninstall then reinstall?
[02:29] <jdsandeson> installed on a compaq with brodcom and everything works but wireless
[02:29] <ammadeusy> another question people, may I?
[02:29] <zaccour> sebsebseb, i restarted, didn't work
[02:29] <deco> jdsandeson: you need the firmware
[02:29] <IdleOne> !ask | ammadeusy
[02:30] <sebsebseb> zaccour: epiphany-browser in the terminal will also open it
[02:30] <ammadeusy> ok, sorry.
[02:30] <jdsandeson> installed on compaq and everyting works but wireless
[02:30] <zaccour> sebsebseb, i know how to open it and use any other icon, i just wanna find the epiphany icon so its the real look
[02:30] <deco> jdsandeson: as i said you need the firmware
[02:30] <jdsandeson> firmware?
[02:30] <IdleOne> jdsandeson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:31] <bobertdos> IdleOne: For the moment, focus on VLC. You might need to try a different video renderer.
[02:31] <khaled> i'm new to ubuntu and i have just one simple question please, how can i run a .java file ?
[02:31] <migg137> how do i add a chanel to my irc? i am trying to add air crack ng but cant figure out how
[02:31] <tehbaut_> anyone know how to get win7-style app grouping and window previews?
[02:31] <sebsebseb> zaccour: Epiphany uses Gecko by default,  and it can also use Webkit as I said before,  both rendering engines are very good.  Gecko is also the one Firefox uses.   However webserver statistics don't get the rendering engin people are using instead they get the browser.   There will be web developers out there that have no idea what Epiphany or Galeon or whatever use,  but they will know what Firefox uses.
[02:31] <ammadeusy> i'm about to install linux and try professionaly use for first time... is there a proper channel in which i can bother you people with dummy questions? :$
[02:31] <tehbaut_> (taskbar)
[02:31] <bobertdos> !java > khaled
[02:31] <Flannel> ammadeusy: That's what we're here for
[02:32] <ammadeusy> flannel: ok. thank you once again. i'll be back more often, then.
[02:32] <bobertdos> ammadeusy: We'll be here :)
[02:33] <jdsandeson> thanks
[02:33] <dlp1982> has anyone used the addonics 5 to 1 sata port multiplier?
[02:33] <ammadeusy> how do I "unjoin" a channel by command?
[02:33] <Flannel> ammadeusy: Which client?
[02:33] <lstarnes> ammadeusy: /part
[02:34] <ammadeusy> mirc 6.34
[02:34] <ammadeusy> worked fine! hehe
[02:34] <ammadeusy> sorry.
[02:35] <d3Lt40n3> do we still need a firewall on ubuntu?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> zaccour:  gtk-update-icon-cache   I asked someone and that's what they said hmm
[02:35] <notwist> d3Lt40n3: what are you talking about
[02:36] <lstarnes> d3Lt40n3: it is recommended that you have one, and ubuntu comes with iptables and ufw preinstalled
[02:36] <sebsebseb> d3Lt40n3: yes  whatever OS your using if it's Internet connected you should have an enabled firewall
[02:36] <IdleOne> bobertdos: this is what I get when trying to play http://paste.ubuntu.com/271303/
[02:37] <usser> IdleOne, that usually means the problem with video drivers
[02:38] <IdleOne> usser: libdvdcss2 and ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed. Anything else I should install?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> !iptables | d3Lt40n3
[02:38] <bobertdos> IdleOne. Yeah, what usser said, which is why you should see if a different renderer works.
[02:38] <usser> IdleOne, the video card. check if the glxinfo | grep direct says Yes
[02:39] <IdleOne> usser: it does
[02:39] <usser> IdleOne, you got Ati?
[02:39] <tehbaut_> how do I force mount a drive again?
[02:39] <tehbaut_> didn't see the options in man mount
[02:40] <IdleOne> usser: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[02:40] <zaccour> does ubuntu community provide updates for galeon?
[02:40] <zaccour> i mean is it updated with the regular updates?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> zaccour: not sure
[02:40] <usser> IdleOne, hm, and do you have compiz enabled?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> zaccour: I think Galeon is one that doesn't get updated much in Ubuntu
[02:40] <shane2peru> zebastian0: are you still here?  How is the graphics setup?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> zaccour: and the reguler updates are only security updates
[02:41] <IdleOne> usser: no compiz
[02:41] <Guest93071> hello
[02:41] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: your back
[02:41] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: yep. :)
[02:41] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: we  spent a while with him,  suggested 8.04, and then  he was going to try your drivers
[02:41] <IdleOne> zaccour: it's in the repositories so I assume some maintenance is provided
[02:41] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: it's in the offical logs if your interested  15th and 14th
[02:42] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: yep, the proprietary drivers is the only way to get that ati card working with ubuntu, even then mine still overheated when I tried processing videos
[02:42] <Dominik1> can I set all my files on a disk (not the system disk) to read only, however allow users to add additonal files? that would mean the folders can be written to but each individual file is read only, is this possible?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: well our stuff when you weren't here is I guess in the 15th only or whatever
[02:42] <khaled> i'm unable to open .java files!
[02:42] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: hmm, I'm not familiar with logs or anything like that, I'm not much of an irc-er
[02:42] <IdleOne> usser: honestly I think compiz is nice but becomes a distraction so I don't bother
[02:42] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: sure, but the one in hardware drivers should have been the propritary one  from the repo
[02:43] <shane2peru> !logs
[02:43] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yeah I was going to do that
[02:43] <ammadeusy> ;part
[02:43] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: plus your client has a log I guess
[02:43] <usser> IdleOne, hm that is strange that it gives you that error then
[02:43] <d3Lt40n3> ubotto: so you mean when i boot ubuntu, the firewall is already started?bytheway,im using firestarter gui for my firewall
[02:43] <bobertdos> khaled: You mean just source files? What are you using?
[02:43] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I monitored my temps, and my computer ran about 10 degrees C lower with the proprietary drivers installed, even at idle.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !bot |  d3Lt40n3
[02:44] <zebastian0> how do i get the language packages, i installed ubuntu in catalan but it says it's got incomplete language packages
[02:44] <IdleOne> usser: not to mention if I try to enable 3d graphics it tells me none available
[02:44] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: wow, that is some serious log keeping. :)
[02:44] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: have you got rid of your 9.04 install yet?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: indeed
[02:45] <bobertdos> !pm > khaled
[02:45] <IdleOne> usser: but like I said I don't need 3d or compiz
[02:45] <d3Lt40n3> oppss!!im talking to a bot..
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  d3Lt40n3
[02:45] <zebastian0> sebsebseb yes i installed jaunty again, and now i'm trying to get the remaining language packages to install it in catalan
[02:45] <sebsebseb> d3Lt40n3: you didn't put thanks, but  it's !thanks  reply works for what you put :D
[02:45] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I'm back. :)
[02:45] <d3Lt40n3> thanks
[02:45] <IdleOne> usser: any other ideas?
[02:46] <khaled> bobertdos: yes just the source files!
[02:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: As I already suggested, why not do it in English?
[02:46] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you are still going to need to install the proprietary drivers
[02:46] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: the ati drivers in the repos are old or something, not sure.
[02:46] <zebastian0> sebsebseb because i don't speak english
[02:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Your English is good enough, and it will make  support easier, if your going to use this channal for it
[02:46] <usser> IdleOne, try a different renderer. like X11
[02:46] <bobertdos> khaled: If you have to, right-click to use gedit. I like jEdit, but of course to use jEdit to its fullest, you want to install Sun Java first.
[02:46] <IdleOne> usser: explain please
[02:46] <seidos> zebastian0: you type english but don't speak english?
[02:46] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you don't speak English???, you had me fooled. :)
[02:46] <Ashy> hello
[02:46] <Ashy> has anyone here used xen with ubuntu?
[02:46] <zebastian0> SHANE2PERU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> I cant even read english! :)
[02:47]  * zebastian0 embraces shane to peru
[02:47] <IdleOne> Ashy: ask your next question which is the real one :)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: heh
[02:47] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: lol :)
[02:47] <Ashy> i can't seem to get my internet working after installing xen on ubuntu 8.04
[02:47]  * zebastian0 reinstalls english ubuntu jauynty
[02:47] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: zebastian0 just tried to make you famous :D
[02:47] <usser> IdleOne, there are different "ways" to render a video on linux, there's xvideo that you use, opengl, x11, and some others
[02:47] <Ashy> ive also tried ubuntu 9.04
[02:47] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: lol, he can try, I'm not sure it will work
[02:47] <usser> IdleOne, try a different renderer, X11, it should be somewhere in the players settings
[02:47] <zebastian0> shane2peru, i need you to help me install those drivers
[02:47] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you can also change the language some how to English
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !xen
[02:47] <seidos> zebastian0: hahaha
[02:47] <Bluey> I am having a problem with irc ident server (pidentd) could some one take a look at this and tell me what I am doing wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/271286/
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, you have a fresh install, and are ready to go?
[02:48] <IdleOne> usser: ok lemme poke around
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you even have a desktop to work with this time?
[02:48] <kevin___> hello
[02:48] <zebastian0> shane2peru nope, just in the process of doing the fresh install
[02:48] <Ashy> Dr_Willis, cheers man
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: did you start yet?
[02:48] <zebastian0> the fresh install?
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: right, the new install
[02:49] <IdleOne> usser and bobertdos thank you for your help :)
[02:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0:  there is a way to change the install to ENglish
[02:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ,but since your going to be mainly using the terminal anyway
[02:49] <zebastian0> shane2peru i'm in the midst of it, i am doing hte fresh install agian
[02:49] <zebastian0> in english
[02:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I guess right now it  doesn't really matter
[02:49] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I think if we install the ati drivers, it may fix the problem, but I'm not sure what all has been changed now
[02:49] <usser> IdleOne, but X11 doesnt support proper video scaling, ie no full screen  :)
[02:49] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, that is fine, we will get the drivers installed the right way thist ime
[02:49] <seidos> shane2peru: do you have an ati card?
[02:49] <tehbaut_> mount -f /dev/sda2 ...says... "can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:49] <guest9214> How do you change the look of the bootlader? Right now ubuntu is first, and i want my vista install #1
[02:50] <sebsebseb> guest9214: why Vista first, and that's easy to change
[02:50] <tehbaut_> so how can I mount /dev/sda2 ?
[02:50] <shane2peru> seidos: I have the same card he has actually
[02:50] <IdleOne> usser: the sacrifices we have to make.... :)
[02:50] <seidos> shane2peru: cool
[02:50] <shane2peru> seidos: well, mine is one number off, but same driver
[02:50] <seidos> shane2peru: good luck
[02:50] <sebsebseb> seidos: yeah that's what you said earlier,   he should have someone that has the same card helping him
[02:50] <shane2peru> seidos: my laptop overheated with over 5 or 6 different distros I installed trying to fix the prob
[02:50] <guest9214> sebsebseb: so if i leave it accidentally, it'll boot to vista instead of ubuntu
[02:50] <sebsebseb> seidos: not using your exact wording just then
[02:50] <tehbaut_> mount -f /dev/sda2 ...says... "can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" ...so how can I mount /dev/sda2 ?
[02:51] <usser> IdleOne, you dont have to, xvideo should work with intel cards, unless the pc is really really old
[02:51] <seidos> shane2peru: I remember you talking to sebsebseb about it after sebsebseb directed me to the #ubuntu logs
[02:51] <Bluey> teh -- do you have a mount point?
[02:51] <tehbaut_> maybe not
[02:51] <IdleOne> usser: pc is a couple years old
[02:51] <Bluey> mkdir <mountpoint goes here?
[02:51] <seidos> shane2peru: what are you running now?  os wise?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> guest9214: yes ok, but I am curious as to why you want Vista as the default boot
[02:51] <shane2peru> seidos: running Suse on the laptop, but my main box has Ubuntu
[02:52] <shane2peru> seidos: still not fixed, been considering putting Koala on there just for kicks
[02:52] <seidos> shane2peru: what brand laptop?
[02:52] <tehbaut_> Bluey: wondering why ubuntu won't do all that in gui though?
[02:52] <shane2peru> seidos: Toshiba Satellite
[02:52] <sebsebseb> guest9214: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <Bluey> teh - that's all done at the comand line
[02:52] <khaled> bobertdos:ok i downloaded jedit & java runtime environment, but still it opens just like a text file, it doesn't "execute" anything!?
[02:52] <shane2peru> seidos: it is AMD processor, ATI drivers, and the worse laptop I have ever installed Linux on.
[02:52] <seidos> shane2peru: I have a satellite, intel graphics though
[02:52] <guest9214> vista has all of my documents and programs, and i'm using ubuntu to learn linux commands
[02:53] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: vista as default boot so mom and dad/wife/gf don't freak out when something they don't know boots up :)
[02:53] <shane2peru> seidos: I have an old Toshiba has always run great with Linux
[02:53] <sebsebseb> guest9214: I see well as long as Vista shut itself down properly, you can access and use that partition from Ubuntu
[02:53] <tehbaut_> Bluey: only one of four partitions actually mounted on its own (via the UI)
[02:53] <shane2peru> seidos: also intel
[02:53] <tehbaut_> kinda odd
[02:53] <tehbaut_> no error messages either
[02:53] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: not this time by the sounds of it
[02:53] <seidos> shane2peru: do you use it?
[02:53] <shane2peru> seidos: the kids do now, it has been dropped, dumped on, etc. still kicking
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: I know, i can and have, that's just what i want
[02:54] <usser> IdleOne, can you pastebin the output of glxinfo and uname -a and lsb_release -a and lspci | grep VGA commands
[02:54] <seidos> shane2peru: cool
[02:54] <sebsebseb> guest9214: ok  I already  told you how to access the file you need to edit
[02:54] <usser> IdleOne, lets see whats up
[02:54] <kevin___> hi
[02:54] <shane2peru> seidos: I bought it with warranty, and got my money back when the screen on it died
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: ok, so i entered the cmd into terminal, now what?
[02:54] <Bluey> teh -- do you have a mount point?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> guest9214: it should have opended up the file
[02:54] <IdleOne> usser: sure gimme a minute
[02:54] <kevin___> what is the rename command, sorry i had it a little while ago, i just forgot it
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: yes
[02:54] <sebsebseb> guest9214: after you put your password in as well
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: got it
[02:55] <shane2peru> seidos: put a screen in it, and it just keeps running.
[02:55] <usser> kevin___, mv
[02:55] <sebsebseb> guest9214: at the bottom there should be Ubuntu and Vista
[02:55] <usser> kevin___, mv oldname newname
[02:55] <quartknee> If I download tar.gz packages for third-party apps, how can I install them via terminal? I've tried all the basic commands but continue getting error messages.
[02:55] <kevin___> what
[02:55] <kevin___> ?
[02:55] <Myth`> 1337 people in room. Awesome.
[02:55] <seidos> shane2peru: I set up an old dell as a webserver
[02:55] <Myth`> Any audio experts in the channel?
[02:55] <usser> kevin___, the rename command is mv
[02:55] <shane2peru> kevin___: mv is basically the same as rename
[02:55] <kevin___> ooooh
[02:55] <kevin___> thanks
[02:55] <Bluey> kevin mv filea fileb
[02:55] <guest9214> sebsebseb: i see "# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[02:55] <guest9214> # on /dev/sda3
[02:55] <guest9214> title		Windows Vista (loader)
[02:55] <guest9214> rootnoverify	(hd0,2)
[02:55] <guest9214> savedefault
[02:55] <FloodBot3> guest9214: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <guest9214> makeactive
[02:55] <sebsebseb> guest9214: in those enteries put  Vista  as the first one,  that should take care of it,   also hopefuly you will change it back soon :)  ,because you will be more comfortable with Ubuntu
[02:56] <kevin___> am i kburts now?
[02:56] <tehbaut_> Bluey: a mount point was automatically created by ubuntu's GUI for the other partition, I don't know why I have to create a mountpoint and mount manually, but if you don't know why that could be then I'll continue doing it that way
[02:56] <shane2peru> seidos: I my main box as a server for a while, was a lot of work to get the ports forwarded through router etc, finally quit messing with it.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> guest9214: updating Grub or maybe even installing a newer kernel,  will make it not be default boot anymore, but then you can edit the file again
[02:57] <Bluey> teh o I don't sorry - I just know that works....ru using automount?
[02:57] <rashed2020> Would this make a working bash script? http://pastebin.com/m77d7e7cf .. It runs fine but doesn't do what the second and third line are supposed to.
[02:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: he didn't move his entry did he?
[02:57] <fez> ahahahahaha @ Windows Vista
[02:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: on grub?
[02:57] <kevin___> oooh i see, i asked the question
[02:57] <kevin___> wrong
[02:57] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: no it's  at the bottom by default like that or whatever
[02:57] <kevin___> how do i rename myself in irc? like that's the /... command?
[02:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: ok, I lost mine once doing that. :)
[02:57] <Gaming4JC> Hello All, just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on dual boot with Vista and all was great. Then I installed an ATI Radeon graphics driver FGLRX? And Ubuntu fails to boot and looks garbled <-- HELP! lol
[02:57] <IdleOne> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271311/
[02:58] <tehbaut_> Bluey: if that's what Nautilis uses, then yes
[02:58] <seidos> kevin___: /nick
[02:58] <shane2peru> kevin___: ha ha, we thought you meant via terminal. :)  lol
[02:58] <kevin___> thanks!
[02:58] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: hmm looks like Gaming4JC  has an issue for you :D
[02:58] <kevin___> yes sorryu
[02:58] <kevin___> i asked it way wrong
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> I used Recovery Mode and attempted to fix Xorg Graphics driver, it failed. :(
[02:58] <usser> IdleOne, yep the driver is messed up
[02:58] <Bluey> teh -- no it must be instructed to use automount --
[02:58] <Kburts> ahaa i is now KBURTS!!
[02:58] <IdleOne> usser: how do I fix it?
[02:59] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: what graphics card do you have?
[02:59] <IdleOne> usser: or is it part of the known intel regression?
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> ATI Radeon 4820 HD Sapphire
[02:59] <chickenhead> hi
[02:59] <sebsebseb> guest9214: have you sorted it out now?
[02:59] <tehbaut_> Bluey: so how does Nautilis normally mount partitions?
[02:59] <khaled> could anyone help please? i need to "execute" a java source file (.java file) , how can i do this?
[02:59] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I hate ATI :)
[02:59] <usser> IdleOne, i've had that on fedora 11 and it was because of a crippled driver that they shipped
[02:59] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: how did it get messed up?
[02:59] <usser> IdleOne, pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: * Radeon HD 4870 Sapphire
[02:59] <sebsebseb> guest9214: and # and ## are just comments, it doesn't use stuff that is commented
[02:59] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: they love you :D
[03:00] <fiber> p
[03:00] <sebsebseb> !love > shane2peru
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: I installed the propietry drivers.
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> Now nothing boots...
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> let me get the package names
[03:00] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: lol
[03:00] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[03:00] <tehbaut_> !love > tehbaut_
[03:00] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: :)
[03:00] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: how did you install the proprietary drivers
[03:00] <shane2peru> ?
[03:01] <IdleOne> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271313/
[03:01] <guest9214> Yes, i just have to reboot now. Thanks, man!
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: I have dial-up so I installed them via packages then went into System>> Hardware and activated. After restart it failed. Packages were all of the above listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[03:02] <Kburts> hmm
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> I'm running on Vista now since Ubuntu is borked
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> :P
[03:02] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: so you just installed them from the repo?
[03:02] <Kburts> andone here using irssi?
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: yes
[03:02] <Kburts> *anyone
[03:02] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: I mean you didn't go downloading them from anywhere right?
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: I downloaded them from this url: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> and installed them in order
[03:03] <Kburts> wekk
[03:03] <IdleOne> Kburts: ask your next question. The one you want the answer to :)
[03:03] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: I recommend you install the ones from the ATI web site, it is probably close to 100MB download
[03:03] <Kburts> well
[03:03] <Kburts> oooh
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: bummer I have dial-up - just made a trip to get them on highspeed.
[03:03] <beatbreak> what's the command to move the mouse pointer to a certian geometry?
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> lol
[03:03] <usser> IdleOne, line 154 (**) intel(0): DRI is disabled because it fails to run without freezing on i810 and i865G chips. (See LP 304871)
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: Meanwhile how can I uninstall these things
[03:04] <usser> IdleOne, as it says see LP 304871, im assuming its a bug report number
[03:04] <IdleOne> usser: yes it is
[03:04] <usser> IdleOne, you may try enabling UXA instead of EXA but i doubt it will help
[03:04] <quartknee> Hello! How do I use terminal to install tarballs? Is it possible to install things outside of the sources.list?
[03:05] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: hmm, let me think about that one, installing the web site ones I know how to do, but uninstalling those, let me search the repos.
[03:05] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: you can boot into terminal right?  recovery mode terminal and get a command line?
[03:05] <usser> IdleOne, add this line to your Device section in xorg.conf         Option          "AccelMethod"           "UXA" like here http://pastebin.com/m303158ff
[03:06] <digilord> Does the utility still exist that lets you choose what OS you want to boot on next reboot?
[03:06] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: ok thanks - right now I borked it so bad it won't boot even in recovry mode. Just shows up with lines all over the screen and won't give me access to a terminal
[03:06] <beatbreak> what's the command to move the mouse pointer to a certian geometry?
[03:06] <MrSchmo> hey guys im going to upgrade to firefox 3.5 and was wondering if its better and more stable than firefox 3?
[03:06] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: when grub comes up, hit e and you can edit the boot line, the main boot line add a 3 to the end and it should leave you in terminal
[03:06] <guest9214> sebsebseb: I asked you about the bootloader. It worked, but now windows has made its own bootloader so i have two now, both that allow me to do the same thing
[03:06] <usser> IdleOne, you're on 9.04 right?
[03:07] <IdleOne> usser: yes
[03:07] <eboyjr> Hi. Can I have /dev/tty6 be an automatic remote login to my server?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> guest9214: oh
[03:07] <usser> IdleOne, yea so try UXA
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: ok that sounds good.
[03:07] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: I assume you are working on a separate computer?
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> no
[03:07] <sebsebseb> guest9214: ok is  that a proper psyiical install, or did you use Wubi?
[03:07] <guest9214> what should i do? either one works
[03:07] <zebastian0> shane2peru, i am right about to finish the clean install, i have to do what's noted in response 21 on this thread first though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: dual booting... :-/
[03:07] <zer0rez> i'm trying to activate my nvidia accelerated graphics drivers and i get an error that the jokey backend has crashed
[03:08] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: hmm, that is going to make it difficult,
[03:08] <guest9214> physical. I have a dediacated partiton
[03:08] <Gaming4JC> :(
[03:08] <sebsebseb> guest9214: ok pastebin  your menu.lst file and i'll take a look
[03:08] <guest9214> what was the terminal command again?
[03:08] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: ok, I can give you the instructions and you are going to have to write them down and type them in
[03:09] <Gaming4JC> ok will do
[03:09] <IdleOne> user I can't find Section "Device"
[03:09] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: we are going into uncharted waters for me, so I can't promise this will work, but it may
[03:09] <IdleOne> usser: I can't find Section "Device"
[03:09] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: after you type 3 on the grub boot menu, hit b for boot and it should leave you at a command prompt
[03:09] <usser> IdleOne, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:10] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: sounds good for me. Then what :)
[03:10] <IdleOne> usser: :)
[03:10] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: then we are going to remove what you installed and see what happens with a reboot
[03:10] <usser> IdleOne, found it?
[03:10] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: sudo apt-get remove fglrx-*
[03:10] <IdleOne> usser: yes
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: writing that down now...
[03:11] <mow> lol...this chan is hard to follow
[03:11] <sebsebseb> mow: it can be yes
[03:11] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: then type reboot and try to boot into it again the normal way and see if that works, I have my doubts about it, but lets try that.
[03:11] <sebsebseb> mow: hence why we autocomplete
[03:11] <shane2peru> zebastian0: looking now
[03:11] <IdleOne> usser: ok, edited. restart X?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> mow: and put peoples names in our messages so their IRC clients highlight the message
[03:12] <mow> sebsebseb > i realize this
[03:12] <shane2peru> zebastian0: hmm, that looks like a sound fix, not graphics, you mean to fix graphics?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> guest9214: no I don't want to go pm with you at the moment, maybe later.  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  guest9214
[03:12] <mow> still can be hard
[03:13] <mow> lol
[03:13] <guest9214> oh, sorry
[03:13] <sebsebseb> guest9214: np
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: ok I'm going to go for it
[03:14] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: I'll be back after testing. reboot pending
[03:14] <Gaming4JC> thanks!
[03:14] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: no prob, I should be here
[03:14] <cmdbbq> is it possible to share files over nfs from 8.04 to 9.04? there is no inherent reason this should  fail, correct?
[03:14] <sebsebseb> cmdbbq: indeed
[03:14] <cmdbbq> hmmm
[03:15] <guest9214> umm, sorry for being a noob, but how do you pastebin?
[03:15] <Biovore> !pastebin
[03:15] <cmdbbq> is there any reason it would fail because the directory i am trying to share is an external drive?
[03:16] <DasEi> cmdbbq: the mountpoint could change, unless you use fstab > uuid
[03:16] <cached> how would one go about changing the 9.04 loading bar back to the to the 8.10 one?
[03:16] <guest9214> Ok, got it http://paste.ubuntu.com/271317/
[03:17] <cmdbbq> sebsebseb: where could i go to learn from the beginning how to set up nfs properly?
[03:17] <cmdbbq> or DasEi
[03:17] <sebsebseb> cmdbbq: I don't know
[03:17] <sebsebseb> !nfs | cmdbbq
[03:17] <guest9214> thanks guys lol i'm such a noob
[03:17] <jamon> ideas on how to switch default gui file manager from nautilus to dolphin in gnome?
[03:17] <DasEi> !nfs | cmdbbq
[03:17] <sebsebseb> guest9214: it's ok
[03:17] <Guest810> brazil?
[03:17] <cmdbbq> thank you both
[03:18] <sebsebseb> guest9214: that your new, in fact that's a good thing, the more new users the better
[03:18] <DasEi> cmdbbq: do you want to share them or just access( copy) ?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !br |  Guest810
[03:18] <guest9214> Cool. I love irc!
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !love > guest9214
[03:18] <eboyjr> Hi. Can I have /dev/tty6 be an automatic remote login to my server?
[03:18] <eboyjr> Like when I start my computer
[03:18] <usser_> IdleOne, so what happened?
[03:19] <eliotn> woah
[03:19] <eliotn> there are so many on the ubuntu channel!
[03:19] <sebsebseb> eliotn: yep
[03:19] <eliotn> is there a bot here?
[03:19] <raeldenk_> hi everybody
[03:19] <sebsebseb> !bot | eliotn
[03:19] <teh_bee> Im a bot
[03:19] <zebastian0> shane2peru, ok i am ready now, tell me what i need to do
[03:19] <sebsebseb> teh_bee: no your not
[03:19] <Kburts> how do i get a chanserv into a irc channel?
[03:19] <zebastian0> i just did a clean install on jaunty shane2peru
[03:19] <IdleOne> usser: that didn't work. after restarting X it got to login manager but was just a little white box and could not type. booted to recovery and ran xfix which set it back to Identifier	"Configured Video Device" in xorg.conf
[03:19] <sebsebseb> teh_bee: or are you?
[03:19] <teh_bee> shuttup i am
[03:19] <teh_bee> haha
[03:19] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you need to download the drivers from the ati web page
[03:20] <coz_> Kburts,   /chanserv  help  ?
[03:20] <Kburts> thanks
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !ati  | shane2peru  zebastian0
[03:20] <IdleOne> eliotn: it is slow tonight :)
[03:20] <raeldenk_> I've lost my dsl-provider file (rm error !) is there a mean to recover it ? please help me
[03:20] <zebastian0> shane2peru i can't find the one for mine
[03:20] <Samus> can someone tell me how my log files are being rotated, when $(which logrotate) is a symlink to /bin/true ?
[03:20] <zebastian0> shane2peru those are for 64 bit and mine is 32 shane2peru
[03:21] <Samus> raeldenk_: which filesystem ?  and probably not
[03:21] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, you installed jaunty 32 bit correct?
[03:21] <zebastian0> shane2peru that's correct
[03:21] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you have the Radeon hd 3200 card correct?
[03:21] <MagnoFlux> my ubuntus graphics messed up - how can i fix it
[03:21] <n8tuser> Samus-> look in /etc/logrotate.conf
[03:21] <zebastian0> shane2peru that's correct
[03:21] <raeldenk_> Samus, /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[03:21] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I will have a link for you in a second
[03:22] <jamon> how to switch default gui file manager from nautilus to dolphin in gnome?
[03:22] <bucky> Samus, man logrotate
[03:22] <bobertdos> MagnoFlux: More specifics would be a good place to start,
[03:22] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:22] <shane2peru> zebastian0: go to this page:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[03:22] <usser_> IdleOne, did it work?
[03:22] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I'm going to walk you through it
[03:23] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:23] <IdleOne> usser: that didn't work. after restarting X it got to login manager but was just a little white box and could not type. booted to recovery and ran xfix which set it back to Identifier	"Configured Video Device" in xorg.conf
[03:23] <IdleOne> usser_: : that didn't work. after restarting X it got to login manager but was just a little white box and could not type. booted to recovery and ran xfix which set it back to Identifier	"Configured Video Device" in xorg.conf
[03:23] <guest9214> I think my bootloader thing is because of vista, i tried to fix it myself using command prompt
[03:23] <IdleOne> sorry tab complete fail
[03:23] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok hold on
[03:23] <MagnoFlux> •bobertdos• i have an ati 1900 gt - i have ubuntu installed on my second hard drive - after an update yesterday - whenever i start up ubuntu the screen is completely black with random lines on the top - i tried to fix it with the recovery option - no luck
[03:23] <eliotn> !xchat
[03:23] <tehbaut_> mounting /dev/sda2 is rerturning 'type unknown'
[03:23] <eliotn> !ubuntu
[03:24] <shane2peru> zebastian0: there should be three columns in the first column scroll to Linux, and you want to click on Linux x86
[03:24] <IdleOne> !msg > eliotn
[03:24] <tehbaut_> any ideas why and what to do about it?
[03:24] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:24] <usser_> IdleOne, hm. i couldnt find anything on that LP presumably bug report
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: It worked! I used a recovery shell typed the command, and then reconfigured Xorg. Now it's back to normal. Thank You!!! :D
[03:24] <eliotn> this is pretty interesting
[03:24] <Samus> n8tuser: but how is it rotating things when "logrotate" doesn't exist on the server ?
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: do you know where the official ATI radeon drivers for 64bit Jaunty are? :)
[03:24] <IdleOne> usser_: launchpad.net search for the number
[03:24] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: glad it workd for you
[03:25] <MeGa> hey guys sup
[03:25] <n8tuser> Samus-> did you looked in that file?
[03:25] <Samus> bucky: again, there is no "logrotate" binary on the system, as far as I can tell.  I replaced /usr/sbin/logrotate with a symlink to /bin/true
[03:25] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok i'm there, linux x86
[03:25] <dm-madman> Wondering if anyone here knows what kind of images IE6 properly displays transpaaarent backgrounds with
[03:25] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: are you having problems with the drivers that are being used at the moment?
[03:25] <Samus> n8tuser: yes
[03:25] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, select Radeon
[03:25] <IdleOne> usser_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871
[03:25] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: Not anything noticable, but there's no graphic acceleration for 3d apps.
[03:25] <bobertdos> MagnoFlux: So, do you actually get as far as logging in?
[03:25] <unop> dm-madman, png definitely
[03:26] <n8tuser> Samus-> also look in /etc/logrotate.d
[03:26] <Samus> dm-madman: 8bit or less PNG images are fine, alpha-blended are not
[03:26] <shane2peru> zebastian0: then select ATI Radeon hd 3xxx series and download that
[03:26] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok selected radeon and now which do i select
[03:26] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ^^^^  see above
[03:26] <MagnoFlux> •bobertdos• no - i dont even get as far as than - on grub it auto starts ubuntu - and black screen arrives
[03:26] <Samus> n8tuser: I don't want to use logrotate, I want to find out how it is running when it doesn't exist ...
[03:26] <tehbaut_> mounting /dev/sda2 is rerturning 'type unknown' ... any ideas why and what to do about it?
[03:26] <zebastian0> shane2peru next page i download right?
[03:26] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:26] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:27] <tehbaut_> mounting /dev/sda2 is rerturning 'type unknown' ... any ideas why and what to do about it?
[03:27] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: if you really want to try and get the 3d stuff then you can install the proprietary drivers from the web site, but somehow that leaves you out in the cold when it comes to ubuntu support
[03:27] <shane2peru> zebastian0: correct
[03:27] <ramiro> how do I upgrade firefox to 3.5 without having to update all my packages or download the binary from firefox's website?
[03:27] <coz_> tehbaut,   if no one can answer that here right now you can also try the #linux channel
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  ramiro
[03:28] <bucky> Samus, dpkg -L logrotate  if you have linux then you have logrotate
[03:28] <tehbaut_> coz_ thanks for the tip :)
[03:28] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: so how important is 3d to ya?
[03:28] <ramiro> sebsebseb: thanks
[03:28] <sebsebseb> ramiro: np
[03:28] <coz_> tehbaut,  no problem    they have an overal linux approach so I often suggest that channel as an alternative
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: fairly important, I use Blender tons and play some 3d games often -- it helps with Wine as well.
[03:28] <n8tuser> Samus-> did you also look at what syslogd is doing?
[03:28] <heogen> ikonia, are you there?