[00:00] <cccman> no
[00:00] <cccman> Windows still boots when you crash it.  I feel your pain.. but Windows suck if you ask me
[00:01] <pfifo> cccman, ohh, type 'exit' at that prompt to continue the boot process
[00:01] <cccman> if I use FAT32 filesystem will Ubuntu be more crash recovery stable?
[00:01] <pfifo> cccman, no, fat32 doesnt work for linux
[00:01] <FOAD> pfifo.  Okay.  Sucks.
[00:02] <cccman> you could convert the system partition using Gparted?
[00:02] <exad> fat32 doesn't work for linux....?
[00:02] <cccman> ntfs might
[00:02] <cccman> i will try it and see what happens
[00:02] <pfifo> exad, cccman, no fat32 doesnt have file permissions
[00:03] <cccman> what about ntfs
[00:03] <pfifo> cccman, no, use ext2 its the quickest to repair and the most stable
[00:04] <cccman> i have crashed ubunt 3 times trying to get my GTX280 to work, and got initfs prompts each time, had to reinstall
[00:04] <exad> Er.. then how come Ubuntu runs live fine on a usb stick partitoned as fat32? :/
[00:04] <EDocToor> cccman, why would you not use what Ubuntu uses
[00:04] <cccman> becasue it sucks
[00:04] <cccman> ext4 sucks
[00:04] <pfifo> exad, thanks to a filesystem called unionfs (or aufs i think its called now)
[00:04] <cccman> pull the plug out of your power supply right now and try to reboot
[00:05] <exad> Ah I see
[00:05] <bekks> exad: because on that fat32 you will only find everything needed to boot ubuntu from an image, not an entire plain ubuntu installation.
[00:05] <exad> I see
[00:06] <cccman> what happens is the inode needs cleared in debugfs
[00:06] <cccman> clri <8>
[00:06] <cccman> not sure what it does though
[00:09] <pfifo> cccman, you just need to check your filesystem, run 'e2fsck -fy'
[00:10] <cccman> i will try it but still sucks that you have to boot into a live cd
[00:11] <pfifo> cccman, if your having todo it all the time something is wrong
[00:11] <pfifo> ex, failing harddrive
[00:14] <syntroPi> for ext3/4 systemstart fs check do something like "sudo touch /forcefsck "
[00:15] <syntroPi> and reboot
[00:15] <NaN123> Hi
[00:17] <pfifo> ello
[00:18] <pfifo> cccman, on the plus side, youll never have to defrag :D
[00:19] <indieross> windows sees 1GB as 1024MB how does ubuntu see a GB
[00:19] <indieross> ?
[00:19] <indieross> 1000 or 1024?
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> indieross: It reads in GiB - 1 GiB = 1000 MiB
[00:20] <indieross> cool thanks
[00:23] <HelloWorld321> if the system is powered down during a crontab event, will it do the event when you turn the system back on?
[00:23] <HelloWorld321> ... like if you have a @weekly event, but the system is turned off all weekend ... will it do it on monday when you turn it back on?
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !cron
[00:32] <pfifo> HelloWorld321, no
[00:32] <greenhornlinux> hey everyone quick question. I created a folder in my home directory call bin. I added the path to my .bashrc for tab auto complete for my scripts. PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin. This work fine for the terminal but when I hit alt+f2 to run one of my scripts from this folder, it doesn't find it. Do I need to put this path somewhere else too?
[00:33] <fuzzy> I have a question about changing the ownership of an entire drive. Is that possible?
[00:33] <yeats> HelloWorld321: read about anacron
[00:34] <pfifo> greenhornlinux, did you restart?
[00:34] <fuzzy> anacron? Thanks!
[00:34] <greenhornlinux> pfifo: yes
[00:34] <yeats> fuzzy: yes - 'chown -R' will recursively change ownership
[00:35] <pfifo> greenhornlinux, n/m that wont work anyway, you need to get your path setup prior to the window manager starting, use rc.local
[00:35] <fuzzy> Awesome! I really appreciate the help. I have an external drive from another linux box but Ubuntu can't access the files due to not being the owner.
[00:37] <fuzzy> Have a great day everybody!
[00:37] <greenhornlinux> pfifo: Ah, okay. Where is that file? Is it in my home directory or in one of my / directories?
[00:38] <pfifo> greenhornlinux, /etc/rc.local
[00:38] <greenhornlinux> pfifo: thanks. I will try that now.
[00:42] <pfifo> http://ubottu.com/y/rn points to the wrong release notes
[00:42] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: Eek!  Where's the webmaster?
[00:46] <MrKB> hello all
[00:46] <MrKB> I'm havng an issue with installing/running live environment of Ubuntu 13.04
[00:46] <MrKB> I was wondering what info someone needed to help me out :)
[00:46]  * MrKB is new to Linux
[00:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | MrKB
[00:47] <elky> the unity sidebar thing won't retract even though it is set to do so in the settings.
[00:48] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: A few reboots didn't help the system config any, I suppose?
[00:48] <summit> is it possible to get Skype on 13.04? the website only shows outdated and a multiarch
[00:48] <MrKB> I'm working off of a USB with 13.04 on it. Want to install it on this desktop but it won't connect to my home's (open) AP for some reason but it IS however connecting to my phone's (also open) AP
[00:48] <MrKB> so I'm going to go for the try it option
[00:48] <pfifo> summit, have you tried the outdated package?
[00:48] <MrKB> so I can go in the terminal and look up some info on my USB WiFi antenna
[00:48] <MrKB> to see what's up
[00:48] <syntroPi> summit, its in the partner repos
[00:49] <MrKB> but I get errors when I boot into the live enviroment
[00:49] <summit> pfifo: yes, i've tried the multiarch but it won'
[00:49] <MrKB> and then...just a blank desktop :-\
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Can you !pastebin the output of [ lspci ]? (Type in the terminal: lspci)
[00:49] <summit> won''t fully install with Software center
[00:49] <MrKB> that's what I was gonna do on the live environment SonikkuAmerica
[00:49] <MrKB> can I do that from the fancy boot menu?
[00:49] <syntroPi> summit why?
[00:50] <summit> syntroPi: not sure, i click Install it goes to 100% and just continues to show the install label, but no skype on the machine
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: You can do that by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1, installing pastebinit (using [ sudo apt-get install pastebinit ]), then running [ lspci | pastebinit ] and typing the URL word-for-word in your chat windows.
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> *window
[00:51] <syntroPi> summit, hmm maybe try installing it with a terminal "sudo apt-get install skype" and see what errors you get then
[00:51] <summit> syntroPi: odd; it actually installed! it was just in another location than i assumed it would be
[00:51] <syntroPi> ok
[00:51] <MrKB> ok thanks solid_liq
[00:51] <MrKB> SonikkuAmerica*
[00:51] <summit> syntroPi: thanks for the assistance tho!
[00:52] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, i would like a solution that doesn involve rebooting
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: What have you tried so far?
[00:53] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, disabling the retract and reenabling the retract
[00:53] <MrKB> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Have you tried minimizing everything and clicking on the bare desktop?
[00:54]  * MrKB doesn't see his usb wifi antenna mentioned in the pastebin
[00:54] <MrKB> (even though Ubuntu clearly sees it since it's using it for internet access through my phone's AP atm)
[00:54] <pfifo> MrKB, use lsusb instead of lspci
[00:55] <MrKB> ok, one moment
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Remember to pipe it through pastebinit!
[00:55] <MrKB> yes
[00:55] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769523
[00:55] <MrKB> Edimax EW-7811Un, that looks about right
[00:56] <MrKB> and my mouse of course :)
[00:56] <Guest99297> my ubuntu 13.04 suddenly started to freez on windows minimize/close. Sometimes Alt+Ctrl combination unfreeze it bu somethimes dont. I have dell 5520 with ati 7670 and inetl hd 4000 graphic. System info shows  taht intel gpu  is used but in additional drivers it shows that radeon driver is intalled. Any idea if ati or intel drivers are causing trouble or maybe kernel? p.s. i used kde(kubuntu) and never had problems only in unity and i
[00:57] <MrKB> so what's the next step? googling my wifi antenna to see if there's known issues that would prevent it from connecting to my home AP
[00:57] <MrKB> (even though it connects to the one on my phone just fine)
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Is your access point encrypted? If so, with what?
[00:57] <MrKB> no, it's open
[00:57] <MrKB> both the phone and the home
[00:57] <MrKB> for troubleshooting of course. normally they're both WPA2-Personal
[00:58] <MrKB> that's why it's so strange
[00:58] <MrKB> does anyone know what the stock Android AP software does? is it g? n?
[00:58] <MrKB> home AP is g, maybe the phone one is n
[00:58] <MrKB> maybe the Linux drivers for my wifi antenna don't like g XD
[00:58] <MrKB> even though it can see it :-\
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Usually it's b/g/n ; what device is your Android (Linux :))-powered thing?
[00:59] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, is that actually something that has worked in the past?
[00:59] <MrKB> Nexus 4, stock
[00:59] <MrKB> stock everyting, rom, kernel, etc
[00:59] <MrKB> but it's rooted, if that matters
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Yeah; sometimes mine would get stuck (I have a 1024x768 monitor, you'd see why) and I'd have to click off the Unity dash or the menu bar to hide the sidebar
[01:00] <elky> no, i don't see why
[01:01] <MrKB> is there any way to hide joins/parts/quits on a per-channel basis in mIRC?
[01:01] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: (Screen real estate)
[01:01] <elky> how does that make the unity bar get stuck out?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Sometimes it thinks for no reason that it should still be active after a user has finished interacting with it... natural occurrence... there was a bug about this in Natty but that was fixed.
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !bug 2 (unrelated)
[01:04] <MrKB> [08:59:00 PM] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Usually it's b/g/n ; what device is your Android (Linux :))-powered thing? <-- any way to know which one it's using atm? maybe through Ubuntu?
[01:04] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, it achieved nothing.
[01:04] <the_drow> Hi, how do I run a python script on all available python versions?
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: OK... hmm...
[01:07] <MrKB> how do I go back to the fancy boot menu from the terminal screen
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  You mean the GRUB menu? or the LOGIN screen to X?
[01:07]  * MrKB wants to poke around to see if he can find a way for Ubuntu to tell him what his AP is (b/g/n)
[01:07] <MrKB> I'm assuming GRUB
[01:07] <MrKB> the screen that has two choices, live or install
[01:07] <soussou> I need some help
[01:07]  * MrKB is running from USB
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  reboot the the pc.
[01:07] <MrKB> oh
[01:07] <MrKB> boo :(
[01:07] <soussou> I have a microcontroller connected to mu ubuntu machine
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  and thats NOT grub.
[01:07] <MrKB> what is it then
[01:08] <soussou> I can ssh to the microcontroller
[01:08] <Dr_willis> part of the Login/boot sequence the live cd uses.
[01:08] <MrKB> Oh ok
[01:08] <MrKB> no name for it, Dr_willis?
[01:08] <MrKB> Henceforth it shall be known as fancy boot menu
[01:08] <soussou> and I can issue a command like: echo "5" > /dev/ttyACM0
[01:08] <soussou> It works if I am root
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Never n3eede a name for it.. it just asks after the system is booted.. most people want to disable it and have it default to Live-desktop from what ive seen in here
[01:08] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, nevermind now. i rebooted
[01:09] <SuperLag> I wish I could get the touchpad on my ThinkPad to work like the Magic Trackpad gestures does on my Mac. Two-finger swipe left/right is back/forward. Three-finger drag for highlight.
[01:09] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: And it works, I presume.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  if you want to install.. use the Install icon on the desktop
[01:09]  * MrKB is trying to install it, actually
[01:09] <MrKB> I can't get live to run
[01:09] <MrKB> it gives me to errors right away and then...blank desktop
[01:09] <soussou> but if I am a regular user, and I do : echo "5" > /dev/ttyACM0. I get the following error message "bash /dev/ttyACM0: device or resource busy"
[01:09] <MrKB> I was going to straight up install, but it can't connect to my home's (open) AP
[01:09] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, yes, which is beside the point. i knew it would when i'd restarted.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> You did verify the md5 of the download? How did you make the  live usb? MrKB ?
[01:09] <MrKB> but it CAN connect to my phone's (open as well) AP for some reason
[01:10] <soussou> Anybody knows how I can issue the same command as a regular user and get a response?
[01:10] <MrKB> Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:10] <MrKB> did not check the md5, no
[01:10] <Dr_willis> You dont 'need' internet to install. but its handy.
[01:10] <MrKB> if I do a check inside uTorrent and it passes, does that count?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> I have a $10 Cheap works out of the Box., no hassles USB dongle i use on problem installs.
[01:10] <MrKB> yes I know. but I figured if it doesn't work now, probably won't work later either XD
[01:11] <Dr_willis> MrKB,   You may want to tell the channel exactly what its doing and not doing and what chipset your wifi is.
[01:11] <soussou> anybody knows what's happeneing?
[01:11] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[01:11] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769523/
[01:12] <varunendra> MrKB, torrent downloads are almost guaranteed for integrity if the torrent client reports the download to be finished.
[01:12] <MrKB> Ok good
[01:12] <MrKB> Let me do a re-check with the torrent
[01:12] <MrKB> yeah it passed
[01:12] <tones> Dr_Willis, if my win7 machine won't boot and startup repair won't work, and no win7 disk, is there a way to use ubuntu/linux to boot windows into safe mode a load drivers or repair startup?
[01:12] <MrKB> thanks varunendra
[01:12] <MrKB> so i don't think it's my iso Dr_willis
[01:12] <arepo> any one now how can a i solve the problem with .conf in xxxterm?
[01:14] <varunendra> MrKB, what is the problem you are having with the Live boot (came here late, so just to confirm..)
[01:14] <tones> SystemRescueCd booted from usb is the best idea I've come up with, but would it allow me to update Win7 drivers
[01:14] <Dr_willis> tones,  i recall ages ago a  "legal" way to download a windows 7 recovery iso. Saw it mentioned on Lifehacker. I downloaded them.. but never tried the,
[01:15] <tones> Dr_willis I don't have the product key
[01:15] <MrKB> varunendra - when I try to live boot it gives me two errors (actually it might just be the same one twice) and when I hit continue on both of them, I come up on a blank desktop
[01:15] <tones> it was on the pc sold to me
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: What you CAN do is use GParted to shrink a little space and install GRUB to it.
[01:15] <MrKB> but I was mainly trying to do a lspci/lsusb from live boot so I can figure out my wifi problem
[01:15] <MrKB> which I did already thanks to SonikkuAmerica
[01:15] <Dr_willis> tones,  well this was a rescue thing I think that 'fixed' broken installs. i dont recall the details. since i never really used it. I just downloaded it and kept the iso on my 'recovery tools usb' ;)
[01:15] <MrKB> Now I need to figure out why the hell Ubuntu can connect to my phone's AP but not my ome AP
[01:15] <MrKB> home*
[01:15] <MrKB> even though they are both open atm
[01:15] <varunendra> Dr_willis, I think that 'legal' Win7 recovery ISO was offered by neosmart site, but they removed it later after some objection from MS.
[01:16] <tones> and once grub is installed, what would be the next step
[01:16] <Dr_willis> varunendra,  the one i saw was from digitalriver (perhaps?) where you get the actual Windows ISOS if you buy them I Think.. but this was a year+ ago.
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: Reboot and check to see (a) whether it loads correctly and (b) if it does, if Windows is detected.
[01:16] <MaynardWaters> hello I am trying to create an raid array
[01:17] <Dr_willis> There are tools to show your windows product key from a window install i recall. I Think that linux-rescue live cd. had such a tool.
[01:17] <MaynardWaters> I do no see any md files in dev
[01:17] <TuxBlackEdo> hey
[01:17] <TuxBlackEdo> anyone here?
[01:17] <MrKB> varunendra - It just doesn't make any sense since it can see both APs. The only thing I can think of is that the Linux drivers for this usb wifi antenna dislike g lol. I'm assuming my phone's AP is n (I know my home's AP is g), but I wanted to confirm so I can continue on my quest
[01:17] <TuxBlackEdo> there are people here!
[01:17] <MaynardWaters> I get a message mdadm: no raid-devices specified
[01:17] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo, several thousand
[01:17] <MrKB> hello TuxBlackEdo
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Samsung-ATIV-Smart-PC-500T-Windows-8-Tablet-Review/
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> TuxBlackEdo, Dr_willis: 1538
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> is this any good for ubuntu?
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> or!!
[01:18] <varunendra> MrKB, could you show us the error messages? Have you tried various advanced boot options? Especially "nomodeset" : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> can anyone give me a good recommendation on a nicer newer tablet that works with ubtuntu?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  define  'works with ubuntu'
[01:18] <MrKB> I'm assuming you get to those advanced ones by pressing keys during the keyboard + little man boot sequence
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> I am looking for some nice new tablet that came out in the past year or so
[01:18] <MrKB> I couldn't get anything to appear during that time
[01:19] <tones> Dr_Willis, gonna try the lifehacker iso first, then grub...thanks
[01:19] <MrKB> i clicked and pressed on everything O_O
[01:19] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  The New Nexus7 will be the one to keep an eye on. Its due out soon.
[01:19]  * MrKB clicks on varunendra's link
[01:19] <MaynardWaters> got it need to specify --raid-devices=
[01:19] <varunendra> MrKB, the linux wireless drivers are usually happier with b or g (can have issues some very rare times with b/g mixed mode).  I got an Old toshiba thrive tablet with 2 FULL usb ports
[01:21] <tones> no wait, grub first to get the product key :)
[01:21] <MrKB> no TuxBlackEdo, just it's microUSB port
[01:21] <MrKB> which can do host mode, FYI
[01:21] <varunendra> MrKB, the options to modify boot parameters are on F6 key on the advanced boot meny. Usually acpi=off and nomodeset can help with system freezing issues.
[01:22] <MrKB> I can't get to advanced boot
[01:22] <TuxBlackEdo> Dr_willis, I'd prefer something with normal USB ports
[01:22] <MrKB> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/installation/live_cd_maverick1.png?cache=
[01:22] <MrKB> when I press any key during that, I get nothing
[01:22] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  good luck finding ANY tablets these days with those.
[01:22] <MrKB> TuxBlackEdo, look for a USB OTG cable and get a tablet that supports it
[01:22] <TuxBlackEdo> you'd be wrong
[01:22] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  and there are micro-full sized adaptors for like $4
[01:22] <MrKB> like Nexus 7
[01:22] <TuxBlackEdo> Dr_willis, a lot of the new tablets do have usb ports and run windows 8
[01:22] <Dr_willis> Nexus7 by default 'partially' supports it.
[01:22] <Domaldel> Howdy, anyone feel like giving a linux newbie a hand? =)
[01:23] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  you dident state the OS.. if you want a windows tablet - ask in #windows
[01:23] <pfifo> Hi Dr_willis
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> i want to buy a windows 8 tablet and install ubuntu (or any linux for that matter)
[01:23] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  i would not reccomend a windows tablet at all.
[01:23] <MrKB> he wants just _a_ tablet
[01:23] <varunendra> MrKB, during the splash screen? It may indicate that your keyboard is not even detected at that stage :(
[01:23] <MrKB> to put linux on it
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> no
[01:23] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  installing ubuntu on one =  most likely will NOT happen
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> I want a fast tablet
[01:23] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[01:23] <varunendra> Is it a USB keyboard?
[01:23] <MrKB> ps/2 keyboard
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Windows Tablets are very locked down - last i read about them
[01:23] <varunendra> :(
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> and windows 8 is such a clunky os that if I could install linux onto it, it would be very fast
[01:24]  * Domaldel raises a hand.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  asumeing it supported the hardware.
[01:24] <MrKB> just get an android tablet TuxBlackEdo
[01:24] <pfifo> !ask | Domaldel
[01:24] <TuxBlackEdo> also I want to be able to compile random linux tools on it
[01:24] <Domaldel> Well...
[01:24] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  Biggest Hurdle will be getting Any linux on a Windows Tablet.
[01:24] <TuxBlackEdo> also i want at least the hardware graphics acceleration to be supported by ubuntu
[01:24] <MrKB> you can do some of that in Android TuxBlackEdo
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Nexus7 = takes like 20 min to put ubuntu on it from what ive read.
[01:25] <varunendra> MrKB, so you can reach the screen where it asks to either install or try, kb/mouse work there. But choosing either option you just get a blank screen?
[01:25] <Domaldel> Basically I'm trying to install linux with wubi, first time installation, I do manage to install it apparently, but whatever I do I don't seem to get the password I pick in wubi to work, so I just end up with the guest login, and I don't seem to have root access there.
[01:26] <Domaldel> The question would pretty much just be, what would you recommend doing from there? =)
[01:26] <MrKB> kb/mouse work on the fancy boot menu, yes. choosing live gets blank screen after two error messages. haven't gotten too far in install because I want to get my wifi working on it before installing.
[01:26] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  id recommend using Virtualbox and forgeting wubi even exists.. if you cant partion the hd.
[01:27] <MrKB> varunendra - rebooted and pressed F6 during boot sequence
[01:27] <MrKB> success O_O
[01:27]  * Domaldel quirks his left eyebrow slightly.
[01:27] <MrKB> but pressing random keys didn't work before
[01:27] <MrKB> just F6
[01:27]  * MrKB thinks docs need to be updated
[01:27] <Dr_willis> F6 = gets to boot options
[01:27] <MrKB> ok so
[01:27] <Dr_willis> You may need to try the Nomodeset option MrKB
[01:27] <MrKB> acpi=off and what else?
[01:27] <Domaldel> So, what is virtualbox all about?
[01:27] <MrKB> nomodeset, got it
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !vbox
[01:28] <MrKB> acpi=off and nomodeset then?
[01:28] <Domaldel> Right...
[01:28] <Domaldel> That answer told me exactly nothing...
[01:28] <Dr_willis> I got Lubuntu in vbox on my windows machine.
[01:28] <Domaldel> I'm not a teckie...
[01:28] <Dr_willis> so what are you asking.
[01:28] <Dr_willis> its a virtual computer.
[01:28] <Domaldel> The reason I'd like linux is that I'm fed up with windows.
[01:29] <varunendra> MrKB, did you get cross marks on those options?
[01:29] <Domaldel> Don't mean that I have a clue about what I'm doing though =)
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  then you dont want to be using WUBI. since that runs 'under' windows. sort of..
[01:29] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[01:29] <varunendra> then 'Esc' and 'Enter'
[01:29] <Domaldel> Ok?
[01:29] <arepo> any one now how can a i solve the problem with .conf in xxxterm?
[01:29] <MrKB> ok thanks varunendra
[01:29] <Dr_willis> arepo,  clarify the problem.
[01:29] <Domaldel> Well, any idea about how to go about this then without CDs and stuff?
[01:29] <varunendra> MrKB, does the installation also hang after some particular stage? Sometimes we 'recommend' to keep system disconnected to make the installation fast. You can do everything later once it is installed.
[01:30] <MrKB> Domaldel - USB flash drive
[01:30] <MrKB> that's what I'm doing at the moment :)
[01:30] <Domaldel> Ah, yes that might work =)
[01:30] <arepo> i install  a bronser called xombrero and cannot save the general settings
[01:30] <Domaldel> I can use my phone as a flashdrive =)
[01:30] <Domaldel> Thanks for the idea =)
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  theres tools for rooted android to boot ISO files
[01:30] <MrKB> np
[01:31]  * MrKB doubts Domaldel has a rooted android device
[01:31] <Domaldel> Um, you're talking about things that's above my head again, sorry.
[01:31] <Domaldel> And nope, it's not rooted.
[01:31] <Domaldel> And it's not the phone I'm trying to install anything on.
[01:31] <Domaldel> But my computer.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> time to go buy a $5 usb flash drive
[01:31] <MrKB> varunendra - success. I'm at the desktop page. but it looks WEIRD
[01:31] <Dr_willis> the PHONE works as a usb flash to BOOT the pc.
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: 8 GB?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> seen 8gb on sale for $5 :0
[01:32] <Domaldel> 03:31 in the morning on a sunday =)
[01:32] <Domaldel> In a country with sunday closed shops.
[01:32] <varunendra> MrKB, like what?? :)
[01:32] <Domaldel> So not going to happen today at last =)
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  guess youa re out of luick then
[01:32]  * Domaldel nods.
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Domaldel: Lemme guess... Norway?
[01:32] <Domaldel> Might be.
[01:32]  * Domaldel grins.
[01:32]  * Domaldel nods at SonikkuAmerica.
[01:32] <MrKB> varunendra - will take a pic. one sec
[01:33] <MrKB> Domaldel - steal someone's USB FD
[01:33] <MrKB> they don't need it O_o
[01:33] <MrKB> you can even give it back when you're done, so it's not technically stealing
[01:33] <Domaldel> FD?
[01:33] <MrKB> flash drive
[01:33] <MrKB> sorry
[01:33] <Domaldel> Oh, right, flashdrive...
[01:33] <Domaldel> Sorry, my brain tends to shut down at night =)
[01:33] <MrKB> np
[01:33] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB , you may follow this post to create a detailed report on you wifi issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[01:34] <MrKB> thanks varunendra
[01:34] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[01:34] <Domaldel> Anyway, my phone pretty much works like a USB if I set it that way =)
[01:34] <Domaldel> I suspect that I can make it work that way if needed =)
[01:34] <varunendra> Domaldel, mine shuts down in the morning, which is now :P
[01:35]  * Domaldel grins.
[01:35] <Domaldel> Well, night, morning.
[01:35] <pfifo> I have a fully functional ubuntu live system on my phone, it works great.
[01:35] <Domaldel> Who cares :-P
[01:35] <Domaldel> It's the time when we should both be asleep I suspect ;-)
[01:35] <MrKB> Domaldel - that's what Dr_willis was telling you. You can't use your phone's "USB mode" or whatever you want to call it to boot off of so you can install Ubuntu
[01:35] <MrKB> unless you have special tools
[01:35] <MrKB> which require root
[01:36] <MrKB> you can use it as a flash drive inside Windows just fine, but this won't be inside windows
[01:36] <Domaldel> Hum, ok?
[01:36] <Domaldel> Guess I'll have to figure out how to get root access then =)
[01:36] <MrKB> shouldn't be too hard
[01:36] <switching> does anyone know the folder with all the .png files for the "close buttons" are?
[01:36] <varunendra> Domaldel, do you know the hot key for your system for boot menu? Try it when the phone is connected. If it shows up, you can certainly use it as a flash drive.
[01:37] <MrKB> what phone do you have?
[01:37] <pfifo> MrKB, I just popped grub2 onto my non-rooted phones storage put an iso image on the phone and wrote a grub.cfg no special tools needed at all
[01:37] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone when I load fancontrol it says mandatory settings are missing, how do I know what is missing?
[01:37] <Domaldel> Samsung galaxy xcover GT S some numbers
[01:37] <Domaldel> Don't remember the details.
[01:37] <MrKB> pfifo - tell that to Dr_willis. I was just regurgitating info lol
[01:37] <Domaldel> And I think I'll try varunendra's suggestion =)
[01:38] <Domaldel> Of course, chances are it won't work, but it's worth a shot anyway =)
[01:38] <MrKB> indeed lol
[01:38] <varunendra> :P
[01:38] <MrKB> varunendra - still waiting on my phone to upoad the pic of the weird desktop so I can link you to it
[01:39] <trism> switching: for the default unity theme: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/
[01:39] <switching> trism thank you!!
[01:39] <eCurrency> Hi - can somebody help me?
[01:39] <eCurrency> I need something to start up wth reboot and I can't seem to get it right.
[01:40] <varunendra> MrKB, is it 'workable'? You may try other boot options as well. Many at once if needed.
[01:40] <MrKB> sort of workable. you'll see in a sec
[01:40]  * MrKB just turned on WiFi on his phone to upload faster
[01:40] <switching> trism some of the close buttons are in there, but the one that appears in the top left when you maximize the window isn't
[01:40] <varunendra> not in a hurry :)
[01:40] <eCurrency> at the command prompt I type "bitcoind --daemon" and it starts fine... how do I make this start if the system has to reboot?
[01:41] <pfifo> eCurrency, add it to /etc/rc.local
[01:41] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  rc.local or make a actual service out of it (a bit harder)
[01:41] <Domaldel> I'll let you all know if a miracle happens and it works out alright =)
[01:41] <pfifo> thatll be 0.0015 btc
[01:41] <Dr_willis> + taxs
[01:41] <eCurrency> I tried this and it didn't work:
[01:41] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  give us detailas as to what you did EXACTLY
[01:42] <Dr_willis> because its most likely you did it wrong. ;)
[01:42] <pfifo> eCurrency, make sure your rc.local is executable and ends with 'exit 0'
[01:42] <varunendra> MrKB, by the way, the F6 = boot options directly was a revelation for me ;) Didn't know of it earlier :) Thanks to Dr_willis too for the confirmation.
[01:42] <eCurrency> oop - one sec. I lost the command
[01:42] <Domaldel> The number of the phone is GT-S5690 btw =)
[01:42] <Domaldel> If that says anything to you folks =)
[01:42] <eCurrency> 1 second - I show you what i did
[01:43] <trism> switching: yeah that isn't really part of the theme, that's a unity thing, I'll see if I can find it
[01:43] <Dr_willis> varunendra,  I just normally add the grub options by hand. ;) i rarely use F6
[01:44] <switching> trism i think i found it in Ambiance/unity
[01:44] <MrKB> varunendra - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0gm7qwn8t2pens/YkbUJHIcRJ
[01:44] <switching> ty tho rism
[01:44] <switching> *trism
[01:44] <varunendra> Dr_willis, that's sure an option in installed system, but what can we do in a live boot to add those?
[01:45] <pfifo> varunendra, add it to your grub.cfg
[01:45] <Dr_willis> varunendra,  i think theres a way to do that also. i rarelyu need them these days
[01:45] <Dr_willis> ive edited the syslinux.cfgs on live usbs befor for some people.
[01:45] <varunendra> pfifo, I know that. But that's only possible in an installed system. Live CD/USB doesn't use grub at all :(
[01:46] <MrKB> varunendra - did the link work?
[01:46] <pfifo> varunendra, liveusb uses grub2
[01:46] <MrKB> dropbox fails often
[01:46] <trism> switching: actually I think it is: /usr/share/unity/6/close_dash.png
[01:46] <trism> switching: plus the various other close_ ones
[01:46] <Domaldel> Hum, halfway done with the download of the ubuntu installer =)
[01:46] <varunendra> MrKB, yep taking a look (indeed looks funny).
[01:46] <MrKB> still can't connect to my home's AP in here BTW
[01:47] <MrKB> Do you guys think if it can connect to my phone's AP but not my home AP the problem really could be the usb wifi antenna and/or the linux driver for it?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  installing ubuntu on your phone from one of those Google Play market tools?
[01:47] <varunendra> MrKB, most probably it's a result of frequency/resolution out of monitor's range. What graphics card do you have?
[01:47] <MrKB> he's planning on installing Ubuntu on PC using his phone as a bootable USB drive
[01:47] <pfifo> MrKB, does you home ap restrict connections based on mac address
[01:48] <switching> trism ok ty
[01:48] <MrKB> integrated varunendra
[01:48] <MrKB> no pfifo
[01:48] <MrKB> varunendra - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[01:48] <Saiki> hello everyone. I am having some trouble upgrading jaunty, how do I fix that?
[01:48] <Domaldel> Nope.
[01:48] <eCurrency> .
[01:48] <eCurrency> .
[01:48] <eCurrency> ok, Im back
[01:48] <Domaldel> Downloading a ISO from the website.
[01:48] <FloodBot1> eCurrency: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <eCurrency> oh
[01:49] <Domaldel> Then using the phone and trying to run the ISO as from the phone as a flashdrive =)
[01:49] <Domaldel> Probably going to fail, but want to try anyway =)
[01:49] <eCurrency> (I just got a warning. Newb ya know - kinda)
[01:49] <MrKB> lol FloodBot1
[01:50] <Saiki> hello everyone. I am having some trouble upgrading jaunty, how do I fix that? (And yes I know jaunty is ancient, latest I have and no cds)
[01:50] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  you do realize you need to use 'DriveDroid' for that?
[01:50] <pfifo> !eolupgrade | Saiki
[01:50] <varunendra> MrKB, wow! Intel 865! Can't be any 'legecy'ier than that :P
[01:50] <MrKB> shush varunendra O_O
[01:50] <pfifo> 865
[01:51] <eCurrency> ok, can somebody help with with this so I don't turn in to a staight ubuntu hater... I really want give this os a chance:
[01:51] <MrKB> Dr_willis - [09:37:16 PM] <pfifo> MrKB, I just popped grub2 onto my non-rooted phones storage put an iso image on the phone and wrote a grub.cfg no special tools needed at all
[01:51] <eCurrency> http://pastebin.com/FCNM6P6P
[01:51] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  im suprised that works at all.
[01:51] <MrKB> again, tell that to pfifo. I'm just regurgitating info lol
[01:51] <varunendra> MrKB, looks like the nomodeset option didn't work. It should have booted you in the basic graphics mode. Is the monitor an old 14" crt type?
[01:51] <pfifo> Dr_willis, MrKB, some computers wont boot via flash drives though
[01:51] <eCurrency> all I want it to do is start bitcoind at boot time
[01:52] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  so whats your exact rc.local file look like?
[01:52] <MrKB> it is old and small, but no, it's LCD
[01:52] <MrKB> pfifo - yeah but if that's the case he's SOL either way as his other option was a USB FD
[01:52] <eCurrency> 1 sec dr_ willis (I know watchu talkin bout)
[01:52] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  starting stuff from rc.local is rather trivial. assuming you understand the basics.
[01:53] <pfifo> eCurrency, you can NOT run sudo from /etc/rc.local
[01:53] <Dr_willis> theres no NEED to use 'sudo' from rc.local
[01:53] <pfifo> nor do you need to, rc.local is run by root anyway
[01:53] <Dr_willis>  unless you are switching to a differnt user, but then you use su i recall.
[01:54] <varunendra> MrKB, if the system is still on in that mode, try Ctrl + "+" multiple times. It is supposed to change the resolution (maybe "-" instead of "+").
[01:54] <mchlbhm> Hey guys. I dd'd an iso to a usb so I could install ubuntu. Now I can't use the usb to save files due to permission problems. I assume I caused it to be a read only cd. How do I change it back?
[01:54] <MrKB> ok
[01:54] <MrKB> not working
[01:55] <Dr_willis> mchlbhm,  it thinks it is a CD/ISO. if you want convert it back to a normal data flash - you need to repartion it. (ive used dd to 'zero' the flash, then gparted to repartition)
[01:55] <pfifo> eCurrency, all you need in rc.local is '/usr/bin/bitcoind -daemon'
[01:55] <Catherine_> hello
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: Hey!
[01:55] <husnainlatif> hi Catherine_
[01:56] <mchlbhm> Dr_willis, could you point me to a site that would teach me how to do that?
[01:56] <Catherine_> i am trying to remove the explorer line "Send files via bluetooth"
[01:56] <Catherine_> any idea ? :)
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: What's the "explorer" line?
[01:57] <varunendra> MrKB, you can manually add desired resolution using vga= parameter on the same boot menu where you selected the 'nomodeset' option. I think vga=788 should work for you.
[01:57] <Catherine_> when i right click a picture of mine
[01:57] <varunendra> MrKB, see : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[01:57] <Catherine_> it says send via bluetooth
[01:57] <husnainlatif> btw today i tried to send a file to my mobile via bt on ubuntu and it failed
[01:57] <Catherine_> i want that option deleted!
[01:57] <MrKB> So again, do you guys think if Ubuntu can connect to my phone's AP no problem but not my home AP that the problem really could be the usb wifi antenna and/or the linux driver for it?
[01:58] <MrKB> my main goal is to get this thing connected to my home AP so I can run the Ubuntu install the way I want to.
[01:58] <MrKB> then once it's install, I can deal with fail video resolution
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: Are you in Windows though? (Maybe that's why I'm unsure of your terminology.)
[01:58] <sere> Catherine_: you mean the nautilus sent to ?
[01:58] <Catherine_> yes
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: Did you disable your Bluetooth? (i.e. switch it off)
[02:00] <varunendra> MrKB, I usually deal with wireless issus (doesn't make me an expert though), but that involves many different factors and can be confusing sometimes. You may post the diagnostics report to give us initial hints about the problem.
[02:00] <Catherine_> http://i40.tinypic.com/14age54.png
[02:00] <Catherine_> this one i mean
[02:00] <varunendra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 MrKB
[02:01] <varunendra> MrKB, by any chance you are using WP
[02:01] <Saiki> pfifo: an upgrade to lucid from jaunty is not supported with this tool
[02:01] <sere> Catherine_: i believe your nautilus send to scripts are in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[02:01] <MrKB> WP?
[02:01] <varunendra> WPA/WPA2 mixed mode (typo it was)
[02:01] <MrKB> Catherine_-  that looks like mac, not windows.
[02:01] <varunendra> in the router
[02:01] <mchlbhm> Dr_willis, nevermind. found something. Thank you for your help. :)
[02:01] <MrKB> no varunendra
[02:02] <MrKB> I turned off encryption for the time being
[02:02] <MrKB> on both APs
[02:02] <Catherine_> its ubuntu
[02:02] <pfifo> Saiki, honestly, Ive never heard of an upgrade working properly anyway, just install fresh
[02:03] <varunendra> MrKB, then as a wild shot, you can try "swenc=1" option for your driver (on a working system).
[02:03] <sere> Catherine_: how did you get your nautilus looking so sexy?
[02:03] <Catherine_> hehehe :)
[02:03] <MrKB> working system?
[02:04] <varunendra> MrKB, Yep. You need to remove, then reload the driver with that option. But these are really just blind shots. Almost nonsense unless we have solid clues.
[02:04] <MrKB> what do you mean by working system
[02:04] <Saiki> pfifo: seems to be working from command line LMAO
[02:05] <stercor> How do I eliminate password prompts for sshfs?
[02:05] <varunendra> MrKB, means a system where you can at least get a terminal to enter commands and network manager to handle the connection.
[02:05] <poppingtonic> varunendra: solved. Thank you!
[02:06] <MrKB> I'm in the Live environment right now
[02:06] <varunendra> poppingtonic, great. I almost thought I left you in the middle of the things (was too sleepy :P)
[02:06] <MrKB> Did Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:06] <MrKB> so now I'm in terminal
[02:06] <MrKB> Trying to install that wireless_script for your diag info :P
[02:07] <varunendra> MrKB, really wanna try random things with the connection? ;)
[02:07] <MrKB> damn, how do I go back to the desktop from this terminal window?
[02:07] <MrKB> just realized I forgot to reconnect to my phone's AP
[02:07] <varunendra> Ctrl +Alt +F7
[02:07] <MrKB> thanks
[02:07] <varunendra> :P
[02:08] <MrKB> [10:07:22 PM] <varunendra> MrKB, really wanna try random things with the connection? ;) <-- what do you mean?
[02:08]  * MrKB is confused
[02:09] <MrKB> ok so I have a wireless-info.txt file now
[02:09] <varunendra> MrKB, I don't know yet the reason (can't even guess) why you are unable to connect. So whatever we try from here would be based on purely guesses, not clues.
[02:09] <MrKB> how do I send it to you guys from this fail live install
[02:10] <MrKB> when you asked if I wanted to try random things you made it sound like it was dangerous
[02:10] <poppingtonic> varunendra: :D I ended up opening up my laptop and fiddling with the switch from the inside. It turns out that toggling it while the machine is booting up does the trick.
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Well... random things CAN be dangerous :)
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: You can show them what you have via pastebinit
[02:11]  * MrKB doesn't even know where the hell the .txt file is
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Which one?
[02:11] <varunendra> MrKB, not really. Anything we try here woult persist only as long as you reboot :P
[02:11] <MrKB> wireless-info.txt
[02:11] <MrKB> ok then that's fine varunendra. let's dfo it
[02:11] <varunendra> MrKB, you need to upload it somewhere of course, but you'll, (oh.. again..) need a working system for that. :/
[02:11] <MrKB> according to the forum post you guys linked me to, it should be on my home directory
[02:11] <MrKB> but seeing as how I can't see anything... <.<
[02:11] <MrKB> well, I can sort of see. some things.
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: [ ls ~ ]
[02:12] <syntroPi> MrKB, find -name 'wireless-info.txt'
[02:12] <MrKB> is there some CLI command I can dfo?
[02:12] <MrKB> there we go
[02:12] <varunendra> poppingtonic, that was a huge relief. I thought you may need to reset BIOS (my ultimate shot in these issues ;))
[02:12] <poppingtonic> MrKB: run "sudo updatedb" then after the terminal prompt returns, run "locate wireless | grep info | grep txt$"
[02:12] <MrKB> I did ls ~
[02:12] <MrKB> I see it
[02:13] <MrKB> ok poppingtonic
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | joao_ ??
[02:13] <MrKB> what now poppingtonic
[02:14] <MrKB> it returned /home/ubuntu/wireless-info.txt
[02:14] <MrKB> which is where I thought it was lol
[02:14] <MrKB> but now, how do I pastebin it
[02:14] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: [ cat /home/ubuntu/wireless-info.txt | pastebinit ]
[02:14] <MrKB> :D
[02:14] <poppingtonic> good.
[02:15]  * MrKB needs to install pastebinit again
[02:15] <MrKB> SonikkuAmerica - command please :D
[02:15]  * MrKB forgot he rebooted the live install
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install pastebinit ]
[02:15] <MrKB> thanks
[02:16] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769648 - SonikkuAmerica, poppingtonic, Dr_willis, varunendra
[02:16]  * MrKB crosses fingers
[02:16] <MrKB> varunendra - still need me to do that swept=1 command or whatever it was?
[02:17]  * MrKB hasn't done it yes, was working on getting that wireless-info.txt
[02:17] <MrKB> yet*
[02:17] <varunendra> Let's see. wait a mo.
[02:17] <MrKB> ok
[02:19] <varunendra> MrKB, everything seems normal there. Is the "Light" your home ap?
[02:19] <MrKB> yes
[02:19] <varunendra> Does it have N-channel enabled?
[02:19] <MrKB> no
[02:19] <MrKB> it's an old router, no N
[02:19] <MrKB> I have it on G-Only, in case you were wondering
[02:20] <mogaj> Hi while i am trying update my ubuntu 13.04 with this command 'sudo apt-get update' am getting this error .... http://pastebin.com/4w459Q8p  ... how can i fix this?
[02:20] <poppingtonic> varunendra: thankfully it didn't get to that. I
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> mogaj: Try Method 1 on this page: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[02:21] <poppingtonic> 've always been terrified of BIOS, for some reason I can't fathom :)
[02:21] <varunendra> MrKB, Well, you can try changing the channel to 1 or 11. They're most recommended ones for better connectivity. For the swenc thing, you may try it right now.
[02:21] <MrKB> What was the command again?  Enter these in a terminal.
[02:22] <MrKB> ok
[02:23] <purvesh> how to install skype 64 bit version from command line
[02:23] <MrKB> for the second command it says "Module swenc=Y not found."
[02:23] <MrKB> is it swenc=1 ?
[02:23] <varunendra> poppingtonic, yep, the BIOS resetting is the last resort.
[02:23] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: [ sudo apt-get install skype ]. Make sure you have the correct repos enabled.
[02:24] <varunendra> MrKB, doesn't matter 1 or Y here. What was the exact command you typed?
[02:24] <MrKB> first sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu
[02:24] <MrKB> then when terminal came back, the second one
[02:24] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, But it will install 64 bit version by default ?
[02:24] <varunendra> correct
[02:24] <varunendra> second one?
[02:24] <MrKB> modprobe -v rtl8192 swenc=Y
[02:25] <MrKB> I also tried =1
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: One second...
[02:25] <varunendra> you forgot "cu" in the last
[02:25] <MrKB> both say FATAL: Module swenc=Y not found.
[02:25] <varunendra> rtl8192cu
[02:25] <varunendra> not rtl8192
[02:25] <MrKB> I didn't forget in the terminal
[02:26] <varunendra> MrKB, please show us - "modinfo rtl8192cu"
[02:26] <syntroPi> purvesh, afaik there is no 64 bit skype yet?
[02:26] <MrKB> how
[02:26] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[02:27] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Some of that info is outdated... I wanted to test it myself.
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Which'll only take a second.
[02:27] <purvesh> syntroPi, 64 bit is available
[02:28] <varunendra> MrKB, just enter the command and see at the bottom of the output. What are the parameters (parm : ) Does it show "swenc"?
[02:28]  * MrKB can't see the entirety of the output
[02:28] <MrKB> how can I scroll up?
[02:28] <syntroPi> purvesh, where? there are packages for x64 linux os but they contain x86 binary only
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: It doesn't look like there's an amd64 version... on my PC it wants to pull in a bunch of 32-bit dependencies.
[02:29] <syntroPi> purvesh, see output of "file $(which skype)"
[02:29] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, i haven't run installation command yet, above both command i had run and i had also manually check partner repository as per describe in that link
[02:29] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Even if I spec :amd64 the :i386 stuff appears.
[02:29] <varunendra> MrKB, press a few blank "enter"s ??
[02:30] <MrKB> wouldn't that make it worse?
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: However, all isn't necessarily lost: I believe Skype is available as a plugin for the Pidgin chat client... but it may still pull in all those i386 dependencies.
[02:30] <MrKB> I want to see what's already passed
[02:30] <MrKB> so I can tell you what the output is
[02:30]  * MrKB is operating inside the Ctrl+Alt+F1 mode, whatever that is
[02:30] <varunendra> MrKB, what I want to see is at the bottom of the output.
[02:30] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, so how do i install skype on my system on community they said you should install package from ubuntu partner repository only not from skype website
[02:30]  * MrKB hasn't figured out how to open a regular terminal window on his fail live install
[02:31] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Right. That's because it needs all those i386 dependencies at present.
[02:31] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: At current there is no amd64 version of Skype.
[02:31] <MrKB> varunendra - one sec
[02:31] <syntroPi> purvesh, SonikkuAmerica i think there is only x86 skype binary and no other possibility to speak skype protocol than this. so even when allowing pidgin to use that skype api you will need the 32bit dependencies on x64
[02:31] <MrKB> picture forthcoming
[02:31] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, so do you recommend this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[02:32] <purvesh> syntroPi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Yes. (Make sure you have the Canonical Partner repo enabled in Software Sources/Software and Updates!)
[02:32] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB , I forgot something v.imp. (silly me... ) did you add "sudo" before the second command like the first one?
[02:32] <MrKB> yes
[02:33] <MrKB> was I not supposed to?
[02:33] <varunendra> then I'm stumped :P
[02:33] <MrKB> oh
[02:33] <syntroPi> purvesh, what do you want to say with that link?
[02:33] <Saiki> 12.10 is supported, right?
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Saiki: Indeed it is...
[02:33] <varunendra> nou, it had to be added. You did it right.
[02:33] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, i had done sudo apt-get update but i haven't done sudo apt-get upgrade only one upgrade is remain that i want to do later
[02:33] <Saiki> SonikkuAmerica: good
[02:34] <MrKB> varunendra - still have that dropbox album open?
[02:34] <MrKB> just added the picture there
[02:34] <purvesh> syntroPi, they had specifically written procedure for 64bit user
[02:34] <varunendra> yup
[02:34] <varunendra> Nice name btw, for the album :P
[02:35] <MrKB> lol thanks
[02:35] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, syntroPi, but as per that link it should also show at ubuntu software center but i am not able to see skype at software center even after sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <syntroPi> purvesh, yes sure because you need multiarch enabled on x64 to be able to install the x86 binary dependencies for skype
[02:36] <MrKB> varunendra - from what I can tell, I'm not seeing the entirety of the output. mainly what's all the way to the left
[02:36] <MrKB> maybe I _do_ need to fix this res problem before we can continue -_-
[02:36] <varunendra> By the way, MrKB , this driver has been reported acting silly in recent updates. The only reason for trying is because it is working with your other ap. Otherwise I'd have suggested you to just finish the install and compile the proprietary one (which isn't a guaranteed fix either, but much better recently)
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: I can't help with Software Center issues because mine keeps core-dumping in GNOME 3.8 ... ask syntroPi
[02:37] <MrKB> Oh I see
[02:37] <MrKB> well I'd like to keep trying a bit more before going that route if that's ok :)
[02:37]  * MrKB really wants wifi working before installing
[02:37] <syntroPi> purvesh, i dont use software center i prefer terminal or synaptic
[02:37] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, syntroPi, sorry now i am able to see in software center i had restarted software center
[02:37] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB the second command is just "modprobe -v", not -rfv
[02:38] <MrKB> oh
[02:38] <MrKB> I knew that <.<
[02:38] <varunendra> me too :P
[02:38] <purvesh> syntroPi, Yeah that is good but i want to confirm weather multiarch is enable or not
[02:38] <MrKB> still nothing varunendra
[02:38] <varunendra> that's good
[02:38] <MrKB> wait hold on
[02:39] <MrKB> ok now I got something
[02:39] <varunendra> got a single (or a few) lines of output (regarding "insmod")
[02:39] <MrKB> plenty of lines O_O
[02:39] <MrKB> need pic?
[02:39]  * MrKB really wishes he could open a regular, scrollable, terminal window
[02:39] <MrKB> can't I pipe these commands to pastebinit? XD
[02:40] <varunendra> Not necessarily. All of them started with "insmod" ?
[02:40] <MrKB> looks like it, yes
[02:40] <MrKB> but I got some errors at the end
[02:40] <MrKB> which I will now type in here
[02:40] <varunendra> With no errors? Then it's good. Now return to desktop and retry connecting.
[02:40] <MrKB> Y invalid for parameter swent
[02:40] <varunendra> Errors :-o
[02:41] <MrKB> ERROR: could not insert 'rtl8192cu': Invalid arguement
[02:41] <varunendra> swenc
[02:41] <MrKB> arugment*
[02:41] <MrKB> god I'm an idiot
[02:41] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, syntroPi, Thank you my problem resolved :)
[02:41]  * MrKB misses copy and paste
[02:41] <varunendra> what was the parameter exactly... oh..
[02:41] <MrKB> ok way fewer lines now
[02:41] <MrKB> I can see them all in my screen
[02:41] <MrKB> I see no errors
[02:42] <MrKB> one single insmod line, but gigantic
[02:42] <MrKB> or at least that's what it looks like to me
[02:42] <syntroPi> purvesh,  "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" should be i386 and "dpkg --print-architecture" amd64
[02:42] <varunendra> Now return to desktop and retry connecting
[02:42] <MrKB> ok
[02:42]  * MrKB crosses fingers
[02:43] <MrKB> doesn't look like it's working
[02:43] <syntroPi> purvesh, otherwise you would need to "dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[02:43]  * MrKB waits
[02:43] <varunendra> MrKB, if required, also do a "sudo service networking restart" and "sudo service network-manager restart"
[02:43] <MrKB> ok
[02:43] <MrKB> I might want to try that, seeing as how this didn't work :(
[02:43] <MrKB> one moment please
[02:44] <MrKB> the network-manager one is going crazy
[02:44] <MrKB> I see the same lines over and over
[02:44] <MrKB> modemanager respawning too fast, stopped
[02:44] <varunendra> :(
[02:44] <MrKB> I think maybe I did sudo service network manager restart
[02:45] <MrKB> can't tell now obviously lol
[02:45] <MrKB> how do I make it stop
[02:45] <varunendra> is it running in a terminal? Ctrl +C maybe.
[02:45] <MrKB> Ctrl+C didn't work
[02:45] <MrKB> yes, the Ctrl+Alt+F1 one
[02:46] <syntroPi> sudo service network-manager stop
[02:46] <MrKB> it won't give me a chance to type from what I can see
[02:46] <MrKB> it's just scrolling crazy
[02:46] <varunendra> syntroPi, he tried "network manager", no hyphen :(
[02:47] <syntroPi> other tty then
[02:47] <varunendra> Other tricks? Like Ctrl + Z
[02:47] <MrKB> oh wow, that worked
[02:47] <MrKB> [10:46:12 PM] <syntroPi> sudo service network-manager stop <--
[02:47] <MrKB> worked
[02:47] <MrKB> also I just looked through my commands
[02:47] <MrKB> I _did_ do sudo service network-manager restart
[02:47] <MrKB> so...wth just happened lol
[02:48] <varunendra> ... is not good :/
[02:48] <MrKB> I just did it again
[02:48] <MrKB> it went crazy again
[02:48]  * MrKB huggles syntroPi for stop command magic
[02:48] <MrKB> varunendra, What could it mean?
[02:49] <MrKB> just went back to desktop, now I see a black screen
[02:49] <MrKB> You blew up my live install O_O
[02:49] <MrKB> time for reboot?
[02:49] <varunendra> MrKB, It means there is more than just networking at fault at the moment.
[02:49] <MrKB> I see...
[02:49] <MrKB> maybe my iso?
[02:50] <MrKB> even though the iso checked out after doing a re-check through the torrent
[02:50] <varunendra> You did check in the torrent client didn't you?
[02:50] <MrKB> yes
[02:51] <varunendra> In advanced boot menu, there is another option to "Check for defects". It should verify the integrity as well.
[02:51] <MrKB> ok
[02:51] <MrKB> so let me reboot then
[02:52] <MrKB> where's check for defect?
[02:52] <MrKB> I see "test memory"
[02:53] <varunendra> Nope , that's a different thing
[02:53] <MrKB> ok so where
[02:53] <varunendra> MrKB, isn't there an option to "test/check cd for defects"?
[02:53] <MrKB> no
[02:54] <varunendra> Ok, "Check Disc for defects" : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options
[02:54] <varunendra> Isn't your screen the same?
[02:54] <syntroPi> MrKB, just do sudo service lightdm restart
[02:55] <MrKB> no, my screen is not like that varunendra
[02:55] <MrKB> "Run Ubuntu from this USB" "Install Ubuntu on a Hard Disk" "Test memory" "Boot from first hard disk"
[02:55] <MrKB> those are my options
[02:55] <MrKB> syntroPi - if that was meant to avoid me rebooting, too late XD
[02:56] <syntroPi> MrKB, you can do check of your live cd when you hit f2 immediately at the booting into it (grub)
[02:56] <varunendra> MrKB, how have you created the live USB? Unetbootin?
[02:56] <MrKB> no
[02:56] <MrKB> Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:57] <syntroPi> MrKB, there is also a checksums file at it so you can do md5sum -c <thatfilenamegoeshere>   in the root dir of that iso
[02:58] <varunendra> MrKB, I really think you should just finish the installation first. This chip is not known for such big issues. But the driver has suffered some regressions lately it seems. You should be able to make it work anyway, using the proprietary driver if not this one.
[02:59] <MrKB> ok
[02:59] <MrKB> where's the md5 hash
[02:59] <syntroPi> MrKB, its "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" in the root dir of your iso contents
[02:59] <MrKB> I just did the iso - 5d5d1a7da2a0659b163d4f8bd70fbe6f
[02:59] <MrKB> oh ok
[03:00] <syntroPi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes thats fine then
[03:00] <MrKB> no I need the md5 for the iso itself
[03:00] <MrKB> that .txt file doesn't have it
[03:00]  * MrKB is verifyig the md5 on his WinXP computer where he dled it
[03:01] <varunendra> MrKB, by the way, one way to figure out the 'reason' is to keep an eye on "dmesg" and "syslog" whenever a connection attempt fails.
[03:01] <syntroPi> that txt file is inside the iso and in that txt file there is a md5 sum for every other file inside that iso
[03:01]  * MrKB did the md5 hash on the iso file itself
[03:01] <MrKB> how do I do that varunendra, sounds like a great step towards figuring this out :)
[03:01] <syntroPi> MrKB, yeah that verifies your download but not that its fine on your usb stick
[03:02] <MrKB> the hash matches with the link
[03:02] <MrKB> truth
[03:02] <MrKB> let me do it from the stick then
[03:02] <MrKB> so let me boot into live
[03:02] <MrKB> but before I do
[03:02] <MrKB> varunendra
[03:02] <MrKB> what options should I try this time
[03:02] <MrKB> so that the video doesn't fail horribly
[03:02] <FloodBot1> MrKB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <MrKB> shut up FloodBot1 O_o
[03:03] <varunendra> MrKB, "dmesg" and "cat /var/log/syslog" Usually we need to filter those outputs but just take a look at last 20-30 lines whenever a connection attempt fails.
[03:03] <syntroPi> MrKB, maybe you can press f2 right after bios post (before grub) and choose nomodeset with f6 ?
[03:04] <MrKB> I'm in the advanced options already. nomodeset won't work the same from here?
[03:04]  * MrKB doesn't know what grub is
[03:04] <varunendra> MrKB, try manually adding the desired options
[03:04] <MrKB> acpi=off and nomodeset right?
[03:04] <MrKB> don't want me to try new ones, seeing as how those failed last time?
[03:05] <HelloWorld321> I loaded an anacron job; I ran anacron -T to test it, and got no response (which I think is 0, which means all okay); and then I ran anacron -n -f to get it to run now; but the /var/spool/anacron directory doesn't have an entry for my new anacron job.  How can I make sure it runs?
[03:05] <syntroPi> varunendra, hmm maybe acpi=off can cause trouble?
[03:05] <MrKB> too late. already picked it and booted into live. XD
[03:05]  * MrKB is impatient
[03:05] <varunendra> You may try vga=788 this time, at the boot line. syntroPi yes it can.
[03:06] <MrKB> oh right. vga, that's the one I wanted to try
[03:06] <MrKB> fudge -_-
[03:06] <MrKB> welp! let's see what happens
[03:06] <MrKB> if I get fail video again, I'll reboot and try again
[03:06] <varunendra> no problem if there is no problem ;)
[03:06] <MrKB> ll
[03:06] <MrKB> lol*
[03:06] <MrKB> I like you guys! you're super helpful
[03:07] <varunendra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[03:07] <MrKB> and do it for free O_O
[03:07] <MrKB> also, fail video -_-
[03:07] <varunendra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[03:07] <MrKB> ok so
[03:07] <MrKB> nomodeset and vga right?
[03:07] <MrKB> no acpi=off
[03:07] <varunendra> MrKB, that's because I couldn't catch someone to play cards with me :-o
[03:07] <Ben64> !enter | MrKB
[03:07] <MrKB> lol
[03:07] <MrKB> I'm thankful for it
[03:08] <pvs_> Good night everybody. How coud I restore my resources list that have benn blocked by Ubuntu on the atualization for 13.04?
[03:08] <talltimber> hello
[03:09] <varunendra> pvs_, do you mean the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[03:09] <pvs_> yes. I have aded some new resources manually. But now its not available
[03:09] <pr0teus> Hey i'm trying to recover a pendrive with a folder corrupted (when i use ls i can see the folder but with no size) i'm using DD to make a image of the pendrive, my pendrive have 8gb, but right now the image is around 11gb , anyreasons?
[03:09] <varunendra> pvs_, what is the error you are getting?
[03:10] <MrKB> varunendra - adding the vga line now. Do I do [-vga=788] ? Or [vga=788]
[03:10] <pvs_> I cant check the box to activate de resource on the Synaptic
[03:10] <varunendra> vga=788
[03:10] <MrKB> also I put a checkmar on nomodeset but I don't see it anywhere in the Boot Options line. is that normal?
[03:10] <MrKB> checkmark*
[03:10] <varunendra> MrKB, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[03:11] <syntroPi> MrKB, try adding it manually it wont hurt it its there two times
[03:11] <varunendra> yes it is normal, although you can put it manually on the line.
[03:11] <MrKB> thanks for the chart. going to do 791 based on that :)
[03:11] <varunendra> :) ^^
[03:11] <MrKB> ok time to try this again
[03:11]  * MrKB crosses fingers
[03:12] <varunendra> ..and toes too.
[03:12] <MrKB> hm...why didn't we go for a 32-bit one?
[03:12] <neytiri> how do i setup a router WITHOUT nat on ubunut
[03:13] <varunendra> that would expect a good graphics support, while we are falling back to basic mode to be safe.
[03:13] <MrKB> seems it can only go up to 640x480
[03:13] <MrKB> gave me some error and gave me a list to pick from
[03:13] <Ben64> neytiri: explain what you mean by that
[03:13] <MrKB> I picked 640x480, 16-bit I think
[03:13] <varunendra> go ahead
[03:14]  * MrKB is waiting for live to boot
[03:14]  * MrKB has high hopes
[03:15] <varunendra> pvs_, what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" ? (give us its pastebin link)
[03:15] <varunendra> !pastebin | pvs_
[03:15] <neytiri> Ben when most people setup a router they use nat 1 public address for all the private, i am wanting to route between private and private address, like what you woudl see in a core network
[03:15] <pvs_> ok, just a moment
[03:16] <Saiki> any idea why the 12.10 installer is stalling on ym acer aspire 3680?
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do you run a startup program as ROOT?
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> I can't get it to do it
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> I don't know
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> I don't know how
[03:16] <Ben64> neytiri: then get a router
[03:16] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: run what? most things you shouldn't need to run as root
[03:16] <neytiri> DUH
[03:16] <neytiri>  i want to use an ubuntu system as the router
[03:17] <Ben64> get a router instead, it's easier, cheaper, faster, better
[03:17]  * MrKB is still at the ubuntu splash screen. is getting worried
[03:17] <MrKB> nevermind, it's coming up now:D
[03:17] <varunendra> MrKB, hope it's less horrible this time ?
[03:17] <MrKB> still looks the same as before though. fail :(
[03:18] <MrKB> sigh
[03:18] <MrKB> anyway
[03:18] <MrKB> time to do md5 check
[03:18] <syntroPi> MrKB, whats your gpu hardware?
[03:18] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[03:18] <varunendra> intel 865 :P
[03:18] <varunendra> syntroPi, ^^
[03:18] <pvs_> http://distrib.abntex2.googlecode.com/hg/debian/ testing main
[03:18] <Dr_willis> a pastebin url.. when all it takes to answer would be one line.... ;P
[03:19]  * MrKB is lazy
[03:19] <MrKB> that's still one line :P
[03:20] <MrKB> well this is incredibly unusual
[03:20] <infinitux> i'm perplexed. i installed gnome 3 using ubuntu software center and it loads gdm fine, but when gnome is selected as the window manager it just loads unity
[03:20]  * Dr_willis is lazy so wont open a browser.
[03:20] <MrKB> Ctrl+Alt+F1 yields a weird page. all black with green flashing squares on it
[03:20] <varunendra> pvs_, that doesn't look like the output to the command. ??
[03:20] <infinitux> i want to escape unity, but love ubuntu
[03:20] <Saiki> any idea why the 12.10 installer is stalling on my acer aspire 3680? (installing xubuntu)
[03:20] <infinitux> and i don't want kde ( sick of it )
[03:20] <pvs_> sorry, this is the url of the repository
[03:20] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I run the script as root when I start up
[03:20] <THE_GFR|WORK> HOW>?>?>>hjir
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> q3m;4
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> m54 ul['t
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK>  utr
[03:21] <FloodBot1> THE_GFR|WORK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK>  ts
[03:21] <Ben64> Saiki: you should install 13.04 or 12.04, 12.10 is old now
[03:21] <Dr_willis> infinitux,  what ububntu release?
[03:21] <varunendra> THE_GFR|WORK, add it to the /etc/rc.local file.
[03:21] <Saiki> Ben64: I don't think it would matter..
[03:21] <infinitux> pangolin i think
[03:21] <RoDiMuS-X> Is there a program that shows a visual representation of available disk space in ubuntu?
[03:21] <Saiki> Ben64: Shouldn't it INSALL no matter what version it is?
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I run the startup program as root?
[03:21] <infinitux> it has been saying there is a release upgrade
[03:21] <Dr_willis> RoDiMuS-X,  should be several in the repos.
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> without it asking for a password
[03:21] <infinitux> but i'm leary about it
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> so it runs without errors
[03:21] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  depends on what the app  is. and what its doing
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> so it actually executes
[03:21] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  give us details.
[03:21] <RoDiMuS-X> Dr_willis, any recommendation?
[03:22] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: first off, relax. have patience. don't spam.
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: say for example fancontrol
[03:22] <infinitux> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> RoDiMuS-X,  use the serach feature and look.
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Ben64: I've been at this for 5 hours!!!!
[03:22] <MrKB> kdirstat RoDiMuS-X
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  non gui apps - use rc.local as was said earlier
[03:22] <Ben64> Saiki: maybe, but sometimes there are issues
[03:22] <RoDiMuS-X> Thanks MrKB
[03:22] <varunendra> THE_GFR|WORK, add the script's name (or program's name) to the /etc/rc.local file
[03:22] <MrKB> np
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: I don't get it!!
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  GUI apps. use the autostart directory in the users home
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: what do I put in rc.local?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  look at the file /etc/rc.local
[03:22] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: what are you trying to start on boot?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  you gave no details.. so whatever command does what you want to start at bootup...
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Ben64: just a program that has to run at root
[03:22] <Saiki> Ben64: any idea how to install rom cd on command line?
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: is there a file in there?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  rc.local is ALL ran as root.
[03:23] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  LOOK and see..
[03:23] <Dr_willis> it IS a file
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: all the scripts in there?
[03:23] <Ben64> Saiki: you can use the alternate cd, its a cli installer
[03:23] <Dr_willis> read it and its contents
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> ok
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: I looked
[03:23] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: what program is it? stop being so vague
[03:24] <pvs_> I used the wget and result error 404
[03:24] <varunendra> MrKB, so where are we? You have a multitude of options to try (if you are crazy enough like me..) : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[03:25] <MrKB> lol
[03:25] <MrKB> can't I try the, all at once?
[03:25] <MrKB> did you read my last message about Ctrl+Alt+F1? (is there a name for that mode BTW?)
[03:25] <varunendra> MrKB, keep a bucket full of water ready to throw on the system, if you try that ;P
[03:25] <MrKB> lol
[03:26] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  those are the CONSOLES and should be showing a simple Text LOGIN: prompt
[03:26] <xormor> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRtksqB0nrU&list=PLB33261883CCB0B9E
[03:26] <Saiki> Ben64: but can that be done from the live cd?
[03:26] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: thanks I'll see if this works :)
[03:26] <Ben64> Saiki: i don't think so
[03:26] <xormor> I can't join IRCNet, invalid username.
[03:26] <varunendra> MrKB, yes they are called virtual tty's (tty 1 to 6, 7 returns to desktop)
[03:26] <xormor> there are no channels #hiphop and #hiphop.fi on this network.
[03:27] <varunendra> oops Dr_willis gave better answer before me :P, MrKB
[03:27] <Dr_willis> xormor,  perhaps ask in a general IRC support channel.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> xormor,  and check the ircnet web site
[03:27] <xormor> Dr_willis, ok...
[03:28] <xormor> Dr_willis, I think I am not K-Lined or G-Lined, and I am not even banned on any or many of those channels.
[03:28] <husnainlatif> is this a known bug: http://i.imgur.com/9zuuk6Z.png
[03:28] <MrKB> Dr_willis: when I used Console-1 before, it just showed me a terminal-looking screen. no login prompt (I'm running a live install atm)
[03:28] <MrKB> now it's showing fail
[03:28] <MrKB> need to reboot I guess? try new boot options?
[03:29] <varunendra> MrKB, missed the earlier message you referred to. But that indicates a messed up graphics in my opinion.
[03:29] <MrKB> Ctrl+Alt+F1 yields a weird page. all black with green flashing squares on it
[03:29] <MrKB> that's the message
[03:29] <MrKB> but yeah, that makes sense
[03:30] <MrKB> seeing as how the only thing we really changed was the vga option
[03:30] <MrKB> time to reboot :)
[03:30] <varunendra> MrKB, yes, that happens with a misconfigured graphics or a memory issue.
[03:30] <MrKB> ok
[03:31] <MrKB> ok so what options to try now?
[03:31] <MrKB> nomodeset and some other vga number?
[03:31] <kostkon> husnainlatif, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/1148033
[03:31] <MrKB> should I try enabling acpi=off again?
[03:31] <MrKB> maybe that caused the visual glitch?
[03:31] <varunendra> MrKB, don't try nomodeset and vga simultaneously
[03:31] <MrKB> ok
[03:32] <varunendra> acpi=off, nolapic, vga=<different mode>
[03:32] <MrKB> 802?
[03:32] <varunendra> MrKB, it's basically a try and error thing. Nothing is guaranteed to work :(
[03:33] <varunendra> sounds good.
[03:33] <MrKB> ok
[03:33] <MrKB> here we go!
[03:33] <husnainlatif> kostkon, is there an easy solution?
[03:33] <MrKB> acpi=off, nolapic and vga=802
[03:33] <varunendra> with fingers and toes crossed again ?
[03:33] <MrKB> lol indeed
[03:33] <MrKB> hopefully I get a useable tty1 at least so i can do the md5 check
[03:33] <MrKB> and then proceed
[03:34] <kostkon> husnainlatif, you could try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/1148033/comments/9  according to this comment it will magically work after installing blueman
[03:34] <MrKB> I feel like we're in russian dolls
[03:34] <MrKB> every problem gives us another one
[03:34] <kostkon> husnainlatif, it will start working after installing blueman
[03:34] <MrKB> and as we solve one, we come out of one russian doll lol
[03:34] <husnainlatif> i'm gonna try it
[03:35] <varunendra> MrKB, got another one? :P
[03:35] <varunendra> the problem?
[03:35] <MrKB> no, I'm just saying XD
[03:35] <varunendra> :D
[03:35] <silv3r_m00n1> i put , ip  domain_name  www.domain_name  in /etc/hosts   on ping domain_name    the ip is pinged, on ping www.domain_name         the real ip from dns is pinged and not the hosts file ip ........ how to fix ?
[03:35] <MrKB> desktop is still a visual fail
[03:35] <MrKB> tty1 is good though
[03:35] <MrKB> time to try mda check
[03:36] <MrKB> md5
[03:36] <MrKB> [10:59:26 PM] <syntroPi> MrKB, its "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" in the root dir of your iso contents
[03:36] <husnainlatif> kostkon,  should i apt-get install blueman?
[03:36] <MrKB> how do I get to the correct dir to pull this off? :-\
[03:36] <kostkon> husnainlatif, yes
[03:36] <husnainlatif> okay thanks
[03:39] <varunendra> MrKB, maybe /cdrom ? If "ls /cdrom" returns the iso contents.
[03:39] <MrKB> yep that worked
[03:39] <MrKB> I think they all say OK
[03:39] <MrKB> but I can't see the entire list XD
[03:39] <MrKB> but the ones I can see say OK
[03:40] <MrKB> can I pipe that command to pastebinit?
[03:40] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769772
[03:40] <varunendra> maybe you can pipe the output to "less" to see entire output. MrKB
[03:40] <MrKB> that would be a yes lol
[03:40] <MrKB> less?
[03:40] <HelloWorld321> Is it okay to load Unity2D on 12.10?
[03:41] <varunendra> like "a command | less"
[03:41] <MrKB> what does that do
[03:41] <MrKB> but doesn't matter, I piped it to pastebinit
[03:41] <MrKB> it passed
[03:41] <MrKB> so the Ubuntu on my USB drive is fine
[03:41] <varunendra> Hmm... all ok there.
[03:41] <MrKB> yep :)
[03:42] <MrKB> how do I get out of less lol
[03:42] <varunendra> MrKB, where did it get stuck while installation btw ?
[03:42] <varunendra> oh "Q"
[03:42] <MrKB> thanks
[03:42] <MrKB> I didn't try to install
[03:43] <MrKB> wanted to get wifi working before
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> HelloWorld321, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE2MTQ
[03:43] <MrKB> ok so where did we leave off? XD
[03:43] <MrKB> trying something with swept and restarting some services, IIRC
[03:43] <varunendra> That's a real pain if the usual suspects don't work (the wifi). MrKB
[03:43] <MrKB> (we just came out two russian dolls. md5 check and visual glitches on my TTY)
[03:43] <husnainlatif> kostkon, it worked
[03:44] <kostkon> husnainlatif, nice
[03:44] <MrKB> well let's try the whole swept thing again
[03:44] <HelloWorld321> tx wilee-nilee
[03:44] <MrKB> and the restarting services
[03:45] <MrKB> we didn't get to finish all that, varunendra.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[03:45] <MrKB> restarting the network manager kinda blew up in my face remember? XD
[03:45] <varunendra> MrKB, "swenc=Y", but it didn't work. We can start analysing the dmesg and syslog thing. But that may be too tedious for IRC.
[03:45] <MrKB> right right
[03:45] <MrKB> is there a way to turn on a vnc server through CLI?
[03:45] <MrKB> I'll let you in and you can do it :P
[03:46] <varunendra> So... we can try without "service network-manager restart" this time.
[03:46] <MrKB> ok that's fine
[03:46] <MrKB> so what was the command again
[03:46] <MrKB> before the service restarts
[03:46] <varunendra> MrKB, hehe.. I'm on a super, blazing fast "GPRS" connection ;P
[03:46] <MrKB> oh God O_O
[03:46] <MrKB> how and why
[03:47] <varunendra> takes just a couple of minutes to open a few KBs ;)
[03:47] <MrKB> how do I get the wifi list to update with new APs
[03:47] <MrKB> not seeing my home AP
[03:47] <varunendra> MrKB, that's the only connection type we have available where I live.
[03:47] <MrKB> I see
[03:47] <MrKB> you should move
[03:47] <varunendra> sudo iwlist scan
[03:47] <MrKB> that's no way to use the internet
[03:48] <MrKB> yeah it's still not connecting
[03:48] <varunendra> MrKB, to scan your ap "sudo iwlist scan"
[03:48] <MrKB> got it
[03:48] <varunendra> does it show the ap?
[03:48] <MrKB> yeah
[03:49] <MrKB> let's do the swenc thing and then monitoring syslog
[03:49] <MrKB> feed me commands my master
[03:49] <HelloWorld321> unity_support_test says "GLX is not available on the system".  How do I make GLX available on the system to unity_support_test?
[03:50] <varunendra> MrKB, as soon as it fails to connect, run these two immediately - "dmesg | tail -40 > dmesg.txt" and "cat /var/log/syslog | tail -40 > syslog.txt"
[03:50] <varunendra> I hope to see some clues in them
[03:51] <MrKB> ok
[03:51] <MrKB> what's "as soon as it fails to connect"? When it finishes trying to connect (or what I assume is "trying to connect", which is the WiFi symbol flashing) and it pops up a message saying "You are now offline" or something along those lines/
[03:52] <varunendra> When it tries then as soon as it gives up.
[03:52] <MrKB> ok
[03:53] <MrKB> can I run the commands now so I have them in my history? or will that mess up the logs?
[03:53] <varunendra> MrKB, by the way, the commands for swenc option were - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu" then.. "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y"
[03:53] <MrKB> want me to run those now too?
[03:54] <MrKB> before the logs
[03:54] <varunendra> MrKB, those commands would have created two txt files in your home.
[03:54] <varunendra> no that was just informatory (note it down)
[03:54] <MrKB> but if I run them again, will it add to those two longs or rewrite \them?
[03:54] <varunendra> MrKB, I need to see those text files now (the log outputs)
[03:55] <varunendra> it will overwrite them
[03:55] <MrKB> ok
[03:55] <MrKB> that's what I needed to know, if it would overwrite them
[03:55] <MrKB> so I'm gonna run them now, just to have them on my history of commands
[03:55] <MrKB> and then I'll do it for real
[03:55] <MrKB> (enables me to do it way faster)
[03:55] <varunendra> :)
[03:56] <MrKB> permission denied on that first one
[03:56] <varunendra> without sudo?
[03:56] <MrKB> dmesg | tail -40 > dmesg.txt
[03:56] <MrKB> yeah, no sudo
[03:56] <varunendra> oh that doesn't need sudo
[03:56] <MrKB> I didn't use sudo. :P
[03:56] <MrKB> so why permission denied? :-\
[03:57] <varunendra> another issue :(
[03:57] <MrKB> stupid russian dolls
[03:57] <varunendra> ls -l
[03:57] <varunendra> is the file read-only?
[03:57] <MrKB> what file is it
[03:57] <varunendra> dmesg.txt
[03:58] <MrKB> it's not there
[03:58] <MrKB> this was my first time trying the command
[03:58] <varunendra> well, it means you can't create a file in your own Home!
[03:58] <MrKB> and why is that? :-\
[03:58] <MrKB> it worked before with wireless-info.. :-\
[03:59] <MrKB> so can I just pipe it to pastebinit instead of a file?
[03:59] <MrKB> dmesg | tail -40 | pastebinit ?
[03:59] <varunendra> sure. But that would assume a working internet connection
[03:59] <MrKB> right...
[03:59] <MrKB> -_-
[03:59] <varunendra> while you have to run it immediately when the connection fails :(
[04:00] <MrKB> can I send you a pic of the result of ls -l?
[04:00] <varunendra> can you really not create a file in your home? Try "touch tmpfile"
[04:00] <MrKB> maybe you can see some dir there that I can write to
[04:00] <MrKB> denied
[04:00] <MrKB> on that touch tmpfile
[04:01] <MrKB> I can do touch tmp though. didn't return anything
[04:01] <varunendra> try "touch Desktop/tmpfile"
[04:01] <MrKB> no such file or directory
[04:01] <MrKB> isn't it home?
[04:01] <MrKB> touch home/tmpfile permission denied
[04:02] <varunendra> What is your terminal prompt?
[04:02] <MrKB> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$
[04:02] <varunendra> that's okay.
[04:02] <MrKB> do I need to elevate myself to root?
[04:02] <varunendra> Shouldn't be needed. but yes you could (sudo su)
[04:02] <MrKB> ok
[04:02] <MrKB> now I'm root@ubuntu:/#
[04:03] <MrKB> now I lost my command history -_-
[04:03]  * MrKB scrolls up
[04:03] <varunendra> because you are using "root's" history now.
[04:04] <MrKB> both commands worked that time :)
[04:04]  * MrKB was half-expecting root to be broken too
[04:04] <MrKB> ok so
[04:04] <MrKB> gonna run them while it's trying to connect and then again when it stops trying?
[04:04] <MrKB> won't it overwrite the files though?
[04:05] <MrKB> I can change the filenames when I run it a second time if that's the case
[04:05] <varunendra> nou, you are in root's directory now. and besides it doesn't matter
[04:05] <varunendra> you have to run those two as soon as it gives up
[04:05] <MrKB> oh ok
[04:06] <MrKB> [12:05:18 AM] <varunendra> nou, you are in root's directory now. <-- why does that matter?
[04:06] <varunendra> you said "it will overwrite the files" I thought you were worried about any previous ones (in Ubuntu's home). Got it wrong, I know :/
[04:07] <MrKB> this would have been an issue before anyway :P
[04:07] <MrKB> since you were wanting me to run the commands twice back then too
[04:08] <varunendra> MrKB, all I need is to look at the logs AFTER it fails to connect. Just go ahead with whatever way suits you to show it to us.
[04:08] <MrKB> so ok I'll do dmesg.txt and syslog.txt for when it's attempting to connect and dmesg2.txt and syslog2.txt for when it gives up
[04:08] <MrKB> oh
[04:08] <MrKB> I thought you needed both
[04:08] <varunendra> nou, not when attempting to connect (although it will help, but I hope it will be included in the messages when it gives up)
[04:09] <MrKB> ok
[04:09] <MrKB> I'm thinking of having the commands queued up in two different ttys
[04:09] <MrKB> will that work?
[04:10] <varunendra> good idea. Although over kill IMO :P
[04:10] <MrKB> or will switching between ttys get logged somewhere and possibly ruin the logs?
[04:10] <MrKB> well I want to make sure yuo get what you need :P
[04:10] <MrKB> you*
[04:10] <MrKB> ah screw it. one tty it is
[04:10] <varunendra> 40 lines should be plenty to cover important messages.
[04:10] <MrKB> ok
[04:10] <varunendra> once you have them, you can connect to the other ap and upload their contents.
[04:11] <MrKB> that was the plan :P
[04:11] <MrKB> how do I do that though?
[04:12] <SPV2008> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 (upgraded today, but still had the problem with 12.10) and my touch pad keeps not responding to clicks (tapping or clicking the buttons), it will respond to moving the cursor, but not actually clicking it. Can anyone help?
[04:12] <varunendra> MrKB, The dmesg and syslog commands should save the relevant log messages in text file. Then just connect as you normally do and upload them?
[04:13] <reisio> SPV2008: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:13] <MrKB> how to upload from text files was my question
[04:13]  * MrKB is a linux and CLI n00b
[04:13] <MrKB> i'm guessing using some type of open command and pipe it to pastebinit
[04:14] <varunendra> MrKB, "cat dmesg.txt | pastebinit"
[04:14] <MrKB> btw when it fails to connect, it reverts to my phone's AP right away
[04:14] <varunendra> Not a prob.
[04:14] <MrKB> so I could have piped the commands straight to paste bin :P
[04:15] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769831
[04:15] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769832
[04:15] <varunendra> Maybe, if it connects instantly
[04:15] <SuperLag> MrKB: one word of warning... don't send a text file to a pastebin that contains sensitive info, like username/password credentials
[04:15] <MrKB> it shouldn't have any of those things. it's a live instance of ubuntu trying to connect to an open AP
[04:15] <MrKB> but thanks SuperLag :)
[04:17] <SuperLag> MrKB: I know what you're telling them to paste doesn't have sensitive info... but that mistake has been made before. (raising my hand) :(
[04:17] <varunendra> MrKB, unfortunately, the messages are from a successful attempt with the other ap :(
[04:17] <MrKB> damnit O_O
[04:17] <MrKB> ok how do I make it "forget" the other AP
[04:18] <MrKB> I'll re do
[04:18] <varunendra> Maybe we need to make it 80 instead of 40? and yes, do pay attention to what SuperLag cautioned about. :)
[04:18]  * SuperLag wonders how long paste.ubuntu.com keeps history. :/
[04:19] <MrKB> I don't know. tell me when this incident was and I'll go check the pastebin ;P
[04:19] <varunendra> you can also just disable the other ap for the time being.
[04:19] <MrKB> [12:19:03 AM] <varunendra> you can also just disable the other ap for the time being. <-- too much work
[04:19] <varunendra> agree.
[04:19] <SuperLag>  MrKB: that's the only thing that's kept me sane, is that I realized what I had done.... and never published the URL
[04:19] <MrKB> damnit, it connected again
[04:19] <MrKB> ok fine, turning off AP
[04:20] <MrKB> what did you throw on the pastebin SuperLag
[04:20] <SuperLag> MrKB: varunendra: I was trying to get help with mutt, and pasted my .muttrc.... which had my creds for my work email on there
[04:20] <varunendra> MrKB, you can change 40 to a larger number.
[04:20] <MrKB> it's fine
[04:20] <MrKB> turning off other AP is not that hard
[04:20] <MrKB> it's just a click away on my phone lol
[04:20] <varunendra> SuperLag, I wish I had been there (but you didn't publish it then.. :/)
[04:21] <MrKB> want me to raise it to 80 lines anyway varunendra?
[04:21] <sere> MrKB: whats your andriodAP?
[04:21] <MrKB> the stock one
[04:21] <SuperLag> varunendra: I've tried to find out if someone could delete it for me
[04:21] <varunendra> MrKB, yeah, makes more sense now.
[04:21] <sere> MrKB: I didnt know adriod made access point :)
[04:21] <varunendra> raise it to 80
[04:22] <MrKB> sere - virtualAP -_-
[04:22] <sere> MrKB: oh ok
[04:22] <MrKB> it's part of the OS
[04:22] <MrKB> since like 2.3.7
[04:23] <MrKB> it's just that manufacturers and carriers remove it or hide it
[04:23] <MrKB> so people don't tether-crazy
[04:23] <sere> MrKB: i thought you might have been using your phone or something else :)
[04:23] <MrKB> wait, what?
[04:23] <MrKB> I am using my phone
[04:23] <MrKB> that's the AP this Ubuntu box is connecting to
[04:24] <MrKB> varunendra - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769842
[04:24] <zorad> all Brazil?
[04:24] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769847
[04:24] <sere> MrKB: oh ok cool :) I love my driod, you can do so much with them
[04:24] <MrKB> yep :)
[04:25] <MrKB> [12:21:45 AM] <sere> MrKB: I didnt know adriod made access point :) <-- I thought you were trying to be a smartass
[04:25] <MrKB> sorry lol
[04:25] <Guest69990> Hello
[04:25] <aeon-ltd> !brazil | zorad
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:25] <SuperLag> varunendra: ugh... I see stuff still on paste.ubuntu.com from February. :(
[04:25] <zorad> tanks
[04:26] <MrKB> how do you browse the pastebin? >:)
[04:26] <varunendra> me wonders too :P
[04:28] <SuperLag> :(
[04:28] <MrKB> SuperLag - that should make you feel better. not everyone knows how to browse through it
[04:28] <SuperLag> it's not rocket science
[04:28] <MrKB> but still, not everyone knows how to
[04:28] <MrKB> also what are the odds someone runs into yours?
[04:28] <MrKB> also, change your credentials. ta-da!
[04:29] <MrKB> how's it looking varunendra?
[04:29] <varunendra> MrKB, your wireless is successfully connecting to the ap "Light", but is not getting IP from it. Is DHCP enabled on it?
[04:30] <MrKB> yes
[04:30] <MrKB> and no MAC address filtering
[04:30] <MrKB> maybe my router is racist <.<
[04:30] <tr0n> dont irc as root
[04:30] <varunendra> Perhaps :P
[04:30] <SuperLag> MrKB: I did that *IMMEDIATELY*.
[04:30] <MrKB> varunendra - PM you the info to my control panel
[04:31] <MrKB> SuperLag - then what's the worry? just embarassment?
[04:31] <SuperLag> MrKB: yes, extreme
[04:31] <varunendra> MrKB, make sure that IPv6 is set to "Ignore" in Network Manager for that connection.
[04:31] <MrKB> in Ubuntu?
[04:31] <varunendra> What pm? Yes in ubuntu
[04:31] <MrKB> how do I do that? (CLI please)
[04:31] <MrKB> I was asking if you wanted me to PM you it
[04:31] <varunendra> Oooh you'r not in GUI?
[04:31] <MrKB> so you can look at my settings
[04:32] <MrKB> yes I'm in GUI
[04:32] <MrKB> but it's all retarded remember?
[04:32] <varunendra> not recommended and not required (pm)
[04:32] <MrKB> ok
[04:32] <MrKB> one less thing I need to do. (turn on remote management on my router's control panel) :P
[04:33] <varunendra> let me dig out a post of mine to tell you the command line. (better)
[04:33] <MrKB> ok
[04:33] <KrisHansen> I am still having a ton of weird internet activity on my pc, i have done screen capture and nothing seems to be going on. but whenever i click the wi fi logo and disconnect. my other devices on that wi fi work ok again. why cant Ubuntu share my internet with my iPhones like windows could only last week = not a hardware or any other explanation. something inside of Ubuntu is working overtime on my wi fi . what is it ?
[04:33] <MrKB> you sure you don't want to look through my router's control panel? you might see a setting that's causing it not to give an IP to the Ubuntu install
[04:34] <SuperLag> MrKB: you *say* that you're new to Linux and CLI... but you don't talk as if you are. :)
[04:35] <MrKB> I am lol
[04:35] <MrKB> What am I saying that says otherwise
[04:35] <MrKB> I'm not new to CLI, but I'm in no way well-versed in it. Linux I'm definitely new to.
[04:35] <varunendra> MrKB, you should never trust someone you don't know so much to give them access to your router.
[04:35] <MrKB> I'm just knowledable about computers SuperLag
[04:35] <KrisHansen> I actually purged Wireshark , i hate that app. I had an app on my Mac Mini called Little Snitch. that thing was a live packet capture that was worth the money for it . for real
[04:36] <MrKB> varunendra - you've spent the past couple of hours troubleshooting my problems. i think you're ok
[04:36] <MrKB> plus I can just as easily turn off remote management or worse comes to worse, re-flash the firmware and be done with it :P
[04:36] <MrKB> worst**
[04:36] <varunendra> May be I'm just trying to win your trust to misuse it? :D
[04:37] <MrKB> yes because people offer up access to their routers all the time
[04:37] <KrisHansen> what about NetTools for Ubuntu ? why does wireshark suck so bad ?
[04:37] <MrKB> No one's that trusting
[04:37] <varunendra> Anyway, MrKB , here's an alternate way to turn IPv6 off : "echo -e "\n# disable IPv6\nnet.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf"
[04:37] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  ask in the wireshark channel perhaps?
[04:37] <MrKB> Jesus. I'm having to type all that. fuuuuuu
[04:38] <varunendra> :D
[04:38] <kumarat9pm1> hi, I have some frequent WIFI disconnections.. in one of my laptop connected to router. I have other laptop which never disconnects..
[04:38] <kumarat9pm1> Any suggetions?
[04:38] <Ben64> KrisHansen: wireshark works fine
[04:38] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: lol, i just cant seem to figure out what is blasting my wi fi all to hell even when Firefox and everything on my desktop is closed , Ubuntu is still deraining my wi fi and nothing is showing up on my live packet capture , what the hell is going on , i know its Ubuntu because when i disconnect from the router, my iphones can use the wi fi full force again ? what the hell is this ?
[04:39] <varunendra> MrKB, there is a way to do exactly what you'd do with nm in gui, but that is a risky command (actually the output, it contains sensitive data)
[04:39] <tr0n> call ur isp's tech support, shounds like its ur router
[04:40] <KrisHansen> Ben64: I hate it , because it is not user friendly and i dont understand the whole run from root /gksudo whatever ... man this Ubuntu thing is hard work for real .
[04:40] <Ben64> KrisHansen: it's really not difficult
[04:40] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  could be a bug with the wifi chipsets driver. try some differnt disrtos, and kernel versiond and see if its the same in all of them as a test.
[04:40] <KrisHansen> tr0n: not my router read my first post =not a hardware issue
[04:40] <varunendra> MrKB, Can you give us an IP that you are sure is available on your router (not in dhcp pool)
[04:40] <varunendra> and not taken by another device on the network
[04:40] <MrKB> yeah sure
[04:40] <varunendra> we can try that.
[04:40] <MrKB> but hold on a sec, let me try this
[04:40] <Dr_willis> You dont understand run from root/gksudo?    err.. users are locked down to things they should be allowed to do.. root can do anything. :)
[04:41] <MrKB> echo -e "\n# disable IPv6\nnet.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:41] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: hmmm. well i did try 13.04 and then i sudo apt-get install lubuntu desktop over the 13.04 install , and nothing
[04:41] <MrKB> I'm typing it in just like that?
[04:41] <MrKB> all one command?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> 'and nothing'  meaning?
[04:41] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: no i get it , but its a lot of work is all .
[04:41] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  Cant say i find it much work at all...
[04:41] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: no change i mean . still drains my wi fi , i wonder if its the driver for my wi fi card ?
[04:42] <varunendra> MrKB, yes, that's one command. We can split it if you wish
[04:42] <MrKB> no it's fine
[04:42] <KrisHansen> I am currently using a propeitary driver for my si fi could be the issue ?
[04:42] <MrKB> done
[04:42] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  see what module the wifi card is using and what kernel versions you are using, then try a radically differnt disrto  like tinycore linux, or slitax to see if it affects other versions
[04:42] <MrKB> it listed 3 entries, all have =1
[04:42] <varunendra> MrKB, that's fine then
[04:42] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: okay , that is the best explanation i have heard yet , even though i am not going to do that now , i will keep that in mind thank you .
[04:42]  * MrKB tries to connect to Light again
[04:43] <MrKB> doesn't seem to be working, but I'll wait a bit
[04:43] <varunendra> now you can check "ifconfig -a" to make sure IPv6 is not in it.
[04:43] <Ben64> KrisHansen: does it happen if you connect with ethernet?
[04:43] <MrKB> [12:39:00 AM] <varunendra> MrKB, there is a way to do exactly what you'd do with nm in gui, but that is a risky command (actually the output, it contains sensitive data) <-- Hm?
[04:43] <MrKB> isn't nm already gui
[04:43] <MrKB> ?
[04:43] <varunendra> MrKB, yes. But we can change its settings (all of them) from cli
[04:44] <MrKB> didn't work btw. reconnected to AndroidAP
[04:44] <KrisHansen> Ben64: havent tried that as i , well have not tried that yet , have no ethernet cable right now , should try that though and only run the i devices wirelessly and keep my pc wired up to my router , good idea , i should go get a cheap ehternet cable today and try that thank you
[04:44] <varunendra> as anticipated. What is the IP that is available ?
[04:44] <MrKB> oh so that's what you were saying? that we can change nm settings through CLI but that the ouput would have sensitive data?
[04:44] <varunendra> yes
[04:44] <MrKB> .101
[04:45] <MrKB> what sensitive data could it possibly have? XD
[04:45] <viva> hi
[04:45] <varunendra> MrKB, your saved wifi password (besides your mac id, which you are already sharing with us here)
[04:46] <MrKB> there's no saved wifi passwords
[04:46] <MrKB> I opened up both APs before even booting into this liveUSB for the first time
[04:46] <MrKB> but ok
[04:46] <MrKB> next step, here we come
[04:47] <varunendra> MrKB, disable your android ap, then try - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" (where xx.xx.... is the IP pattern applicable to your network)
[04:47] <varunendra> Then try to connect again.
[04:47] <MrKB> ok
[04:48] <varunendra> MrKB, create (only) the syslog again if it fails again. Then post it back.
[04:48] <MrKB> ok
[04:48] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB you may have to do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" before trying the IP addressing one.
[04:48] <MrKB> ok
[04:49] <zorad> quit
[04:49] <MrKB> it threw up 3 lines when I did the second command (the one with the IP)
[04:49] <seratwo> hi there, fresh install of ubuntu, pc is running really slowly. Noticed in `top -i` that there are three processes called `ps` which are using 100% of 3/4 cores of my machine. Last i checked ps was used to monitor processes not process anything. I can't kill them using `killall ps`, `sudo killall ps` or `sudo kill - 9 <pid>`.
[04:49] <MrKB> one of them looks like an error
[04:50] <MrKB> wlan0: link is not ready
[04:50] <MrKB> what do you think varunendra
[04:50] <varunendra> check "ifconfig -a" MrKB
[04:50] <varunendra> does it show the IP we just assigned?
[04:51] <MrKB> yes, for wlan0
[04:51] <varunendra> Subnet mask is okay?
[04:51] <MrKB> yes
[04:51] <MrKB> it failed, syslog pastebin url forthcoming
[04:53] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769890
[04:53] <varunendra> hmm.. funny that you are able to pass the difficult stage (authentication > association) but can't get IP :/
[04:53] <MrKB> yeah :-\
[04:54] <MrKB> SuperLag - why does it sound like I know what I'm talking about? You didn't say XD
[04:55] <varunendra> MrKB, looks like avahi-daemon is still messing with IPv6 :(
[04:55] <MrKB> fudge
[04:55] <MrKB> just did that long IPv6 command again
[04:56] <MrKB> let me type up what it outputs
[04:56] <MrKB> # disable IPv6
[04:56] <MrKB> net.ipv6.cong.all.disable_ipv6=1
[04:56] <MrKB> net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1
[04:56] <MrKB> net.ipv6.cong.lo.disable_ipv6=1
[04:56] <MrKB> that's it
[04:57] <MrKB> so it looks to be fine :-\
[04:57] <SuperLag> MrKB: you're asking intelligent questions, capable of carrying on intelligent conversation, and not afraid to dig in and get your hands dirty with this stuff
[04:57] <MrKB> maybe that last one lol
[04:57] <varunendra> MrKB, now the "risky" command - "sudo cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Light" (assuming the connection is saved with name "Light")
[04:58] <MrKB> which it should be
[04:58] <MrKB> thanks for the compliment SuperLag :D
[04:58] <varunendra> MrKB, you are intelligent, no doubt in that :)
[04:58] <MrKB> why thank you :D
[04:58] <MrKB> ipv6 method is set to auto
[04:59] <MrKB> so is ipv4
[04:59] <KrisHansen> so I am about to go buy an ethernet cable, it is correct to say that in theory I can connect my laptop to my router via ethernet and then disable wi fi on my laptop, enabling all my i devices to use the routers wi fi seperatley ?
[04:59] <MrKB> do you need me to pipe the output to pastebinit?
[04:59] <varunendra> MrKB, hmm.. let me try a few things here first, then I'll give you commands to change it.
[04:59] <MrKB> ok
[04:59] <MrKB> thanks :D
[05:00]  * MrKB wonders about these intelligent questions SuperLag is talking about
[05:00] <MrKB> my questions are based on whatever the consequences were to whatever command I was told to input into CLI
[05:00] <MrKB> which doesn't seem to smart to me :P
[05:01] <MrKB> but again, I appreciate the compliment
[05:01] <KrisHansen> what Java should i install for web browsing ?
[05:01] <MrKB> none O_o
[05:01] <MrKB> I only install Java if I run into a website that needs it
[05:01] <MrKB> which is almost never in my case
[05:01] <MrKB> and then I uninstall it when I'm done lol
[05:01] <kostkon> KrisHansen, openjdk7 and icedtea plugin
[05:02] <KrisHansen> what is causing my pc to act slowly on some websites ? do i need some Java, does the iced tea plugin run Java automatically or do  i need to set it up somehow ?
[05:02] <reisio> Java™ will definitely make anything slower
[05:02] <varunendra> MrKB, try this "sudo sed -i '/ipv6/,$ s:method=auto:method=ignore:' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Light"
[05:03] <KrisHansen> reisio: so Java will make my pc run more slowly ?
[05:03] <MrKB> ok varunendra
[05:03] <MrKB> yes KrisHansen
[05:03] <varunendra> Ignore the enclosing double-quotes, but make sure the single quotes are in place, MrKB
[05:03] <MrKB> thats why I keep it uninstalled
[05:03] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[05:03] <KrisHansen> MrKB: ok i just uninstalled all Java iced tea related software
[05:04] <kostkon> KrisHansen, i think the culprit is flash, i.e. flash ads rather than java
[05:04] <reisio> KrisHansen: for sure
[05:04] <KrisHansen> so what codecs do i need to make web browsing faster , i already have flash plugin Adobe latest , are there others ?
[05:04] <reisio> KrisHansen: those won't make browser faster
[05:05] <MrKB> uninstall Flash XD
[05:05] <kostkon> KrisHansen, you may find the following firefox extensions useful: adblock and/or flashblock
[05:05] <reisio> they'll just give you a specific type of access to a specific set of media
[05:05] <MrKB> I would say both kostkon
[05:05] <MrKB> plus a good HOSTS file
[05:05] <reisio> I use CTRL+w instead of adblock
[05:05] <MrKB> varunendra - now what? It didn't give out any output btw
[05:05] <kostkon> MrKB, yeah, probably
[05:05] <MrKB> lol reisio
[05:05] <varunendra> MrKB, when the above is done, do - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" again
[05:05] <Guest93466> Hey guys -  the other day someone here kindly helped me figure out a way to get the features of UbuntuStudio for Ubuntu - one of the things I was told was I needed to be a member of audio group and I gave was given this to type in terminal: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - when I did, it spat this back at me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769898/  .... now, my question is - what do I do here... I was uncertain if the Username/account
[05:05] <Guest93466> was automatically created or if I needed to choose something from the options listed.
[05:05] <MrKB> will do varunendra
[05:05] <KrisHansen> so certain websites have a lot of Flash content that slow me down? and i want to run adblock and flashblock then ?
[05:05] <Guest93466> Anything you guys could provide moe on that would be amazing, im stuck waiting in terminal to make my movie.
[05:05] <Guest93466> *move
[05:05] <MrKB> hm...
[05:05] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB check the previous command again for checking NM settings
[05:06] <MrKB> I didn't get an ouput out of wlan0 down either
[05:06] <MrKB> that's not normal
[05:06] <MrKB> and my prompt is different!
[05:06] <MrKB> it just shows >
[05:06] <MrKB> no root@ubuntu and such
[05:06] <MrKB> hax!!
[05:06] <MrKB> wtf is happening lol
[05:06] <varunendra> means you are missing an enclosing single quote or something in the original command :)
[05:07] <varunendra> the sed one
[05:07] <MrKB> nope
[05:07] <MrKB> I wrote this:
[05:07] <SuperLag> kostkon: KrisHansen: for Flash, I stick with Chrome.
[05:08] <MrKB> sudo sed -i '/ipv6/,$ s:method=auto:method=ignore:' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connection/Light
[05:08] <MrKB> oh fudge
[05:08] <MrKB> i think I put " at the end after Light
[05:08] <MrKB> what now O_O
[05:08] <FloodBot1> MrKB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <varunendra> ;)
[05:08] <KrisHansen> So having the latest Flash plugin is not the issue , i need to add flashblock and adblock , so how to add these extensions ? and would i be better off running chromium ?
[05:08] <MrKB> shut up FloodBot1
[05:08] <MrKB> people run Chromium?
[05:08] <varunendra> Ctrl + C > retry, MrKB
[05:08] <MrKB> thanks
[05:08] <SuperLag> MrKB: yessir
[05:09] <MrKB> got no output this time either
[05:09] <MrKB> for the sed
[05:09] <varunendra> you won't
[05:09] <MrKB> oh ok
[05:10] <varunendra> just check "cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Light"
[05:10] <varunendra> to confirm that IPv6 is set to "Ignore" now.
[05:10] <MrKB> ok varunendra - did down and then .101
[05:10] <Fudge> MrKB ?
[05:11] <MrKB> saying fudge instead of f00k, Fudge. Sorry
[05:11] <varunendra> now retry to connect, and post back the syslog if fail
[05:11] <sere> KrisHansen: are you using firefox?
[05:11] <MrKB> I got some extra lines from the last time I did that command a little while back. Is that normal varunendra
[05:11] <MrKB> they are both set to ignore now, IPv6 and v4
[05:12] <varunendra> Umm... depends on what it did last time
[05:12] <MrKB> it's fine then, don't worry about it
[05:12] <KrisHansen> sere: yeah
[05:12] <KrisHansen> sere: i goota go , going to but a ethernet cable . bbl
[05:12] <varunendra> okay, it's messed up now :P
[05:12] <sere> KrisHansen: you should be able to just add those from the firefox addons
[05:12] <KrisHansen> sere: how to do that ?
[05:12] <MrKB> varunendra - I'm still connected to AndroidAP BTW which I guess is a good sign
[05:12] <MrKB> let me try Light again anyway
[05:13] <MrKB> nope, not working for Light -_-
[05:13] <sere> KrisHansen: open up firefox  then search firefox addons
[05:13] <varunendra> MrKB, IPv4 should be set to "manual" or "auto"
[05:13]  * MrKB stabs router
[05:13] <MrKB> yes I realize that. How do we go about doing that
[05:13] <KrisHansen> sere: yeah i got it . now i have to select add on type
[05:13] <varunendra> it'll take effect after a down > up cycle I guess (but nm has its own ways to do things)
[05:14] <MrKB> it'll take effect as in it'll D/C me from AndroidAP? XD
[05:14]  * MrKB is still on AndroidAP
[05:14] <KrisHansen> sere: i found it . which adblock version do i get the latest ?
[05:14] <varunendra> MrKB, let's just try the ifconfig commands anyway, we'll see if the syslog returns any errors regarding IPv4
[05:15] <MrKB> ok
[05:15] <KrisHansen> sere: adblock plus 2.2.4
[05:15] <sere> KrisHansen: yea i would stay to date as much as possible with those..
[05:15] <KrisHansen> sere: ok hold up
[05:15] <MrKB> I did try the commands though...
[05:15] <MrKB> [01:10:43 AM] <MrKB> ok varunendra - did down and then .101 <-- there
[05:15] <sere> KrisHansen: ok
[05:15] <varunendra> with no change I guess :(
[05:16] <MrKB> indeed
[05:16] <MrKB> syslog?
[05:16] <varunendra> Yup
[05:16] <MrKB> do you still need me to turn off AndroidAP before doing it? Or is the 80 lines enough?
[05:16] <MrKB> I think I forgot to turn it off last time, too XD
[05:16] <varunendra> leave it on
[05:16] <KrisHansen> ok i am adding adblock edge 2.0.4
[05:17] <varunendra> 80 is enough
[05:17] <MrKB> KrisHansen - edge?
[05:17] <MrKB> ok varunendra
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support
[05:17] <varunendra> heh, that's yet another version of adblock... :P
[05:18] <varunendra> I'm on "Trueblockplus"
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> join #firefox for addons discuss
[05:18] <Guest93466> anyone?
[05:18] <varunendra> :|
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Guest93466: re-ask your question here once in a while mate
[05:18] <Guest93466> gotcha
[05:18] <MrKB> varunendra - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769927
[05:19] <Guest93466> MrKB, when the above is done, do - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" again
[05:19] <Guest93466> Hey guys -  the other day someone here kindly helped me figure out a way to get the features of UbuntuStudio for Ubuntu - one of the things I was told was I needed to be a member of audio group and I gave was given this to type in terminal: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - when I did, it spat this back at me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769898/  .... now, my question is - what do I do here... I was uncertain if the Username/account
[05:19] <Guest93466> was automatically created or if I needed to choose something from the options listed.
[05:19] <MrKB> lol Guest93466 - nice paste
[05:20] <Guest93466> keep it calssy.  :)
[05:20] <MrKB> (^.^)b
[05:20] <Guest93466> figured i worded it right the first time... link and whatnot
[05:21] <MrKB> no I meant the fact that you pasted one of varunendra's lines directed at me, right before your post
[05:21] <MrKB> it made me laugh
[05:23] <varunendra> MrKB, it's all AndroidAP again, no references to the "Light" ap. Perhaps we do need to disable it. :(
[05:23] <MrKB> varunendra - I hate you O_O
[05:23] <varunendra> (for a moment I jumped with joy when I saw it getting an IP from DHCP)
[05:23] <GeorgeTorwell> where is the ubuntu server channel
[05:24] <MrKB> lol varunendra
[05:24] <bingoboy> what's this
[05:24] <GeorgeTorwell> and if anyone knows, does LVM mean the same thing as full disk encryption in Ubuntu server Edition
[05:24] <reisio> no
[05:24] <varunendra> MrKB, yeah, I hate myself too .... many times a day. :/
[05:24] <MrKB> lol
[05:24] <reisio> _one_ thing LVM does is help a person utilize full disk encryption
[05:25] <Tylerjd> Full disk encryption is different than LVM - though they can work in unison
[05:25] <MrKB> omg varunendra
[05:25] <reisio> but encryption i sn't really its purpose, right
[05:25] <MrKB> the install just died
[05:25] <GeorgeTorwell> well I didnt see an option for setting up FDE in server edition
[05:25] <varunendra> Means?
[05:25] <varunendra> MrKB,
[05:25] <GeorgeTorwell> how are they different? Either way you ahve an encrypted system followed by a decrypted boot, right?
[05:25] <MrKB> it gave up on trying to connect to Light so I switched over to tty1
[05:25] <MrKB> got a black screen
[05:25] <MrKB> switched back to desktop - black screen
[05:25] <Tylerjd> Generally servers wouldn't be fully encrypted -_-
[05:25] <MrKB> :(:(:(:( varunendra
[05:26] <varunendra> MrKB, Do you feel the need for a forum thread now ? :/
[05:26] <varunendra> where we can make slow but steady progress.
[05:26] <MrKB> I mean it's reacting to the shortcuts. I can see it's flashing to different screens when I try to switch screens but I get black on both screens
[05:26] <MrKB> how's that different from this?
[05:26] <MrKB> I like IRC better than forums :P
[05:27] <Tylerjd> Though I did see a slightly relevant - abit advanced - link on reddit on this http://hashbang.ca/2013/06/15/adding-luks-hard-disk-encryption-on-lvm-after-the-fact
[05:27]  * MrKB is genuinly asking
[05:27] <varunendra> YeahRight, quick but things get lost sometime, need repetition which is prone to mistakes.
[05:28] <MrKB> I'm guessing PM is out of the question?
[05:28] <MrKB> what about #Ubuntu-Beginners?
[05:28] <MrKB> no one talks on there O_O
[05:28] <MrKB> varunendra - what timezone are you on?
[05:29] <varunendra> GMT + 5:30
[05:29] <GeorgeTorwell> can someone tell me how to set up FDE on ubuntu server 13?
[05:29] <varunendra> MrKB,  forum thread will have the advantage of giving proper time to rethink and come up with something that may probably make more sense. Plus, others (better than me) can participate.
[05:29] <MrKB> ok
[05:30] <varunendra> but above all, MrKB I think you shouldn't hesitate from installing. As your card itself is working.
[05:30] <MrKB> 11AM for you?
[05:30] <varunendra> exactly
[05:30] <varunendra> for you?
[05:30] <MrKB> <-- 1:30AM XD
[05:30] <Tylerjd> ^Same
[05:30] <MrKB> varunendra - still having major video issues
[05:30] <varunendra> usual for guys like us :P
[05:31] <MrKB> indeed
[05:31] <varunendra> the time I meant
[05:31] <MrKB> I know what you meant :P
[05:31] <varunendra> Did you also try 12.04? MrKB
[05:31] <MrKB> I did not
[05:32] <MrKB> I mean you did mention something about trying the blob driver...can we do that in live?
[05:32] <varunendra> You should, especially when you are putting so much effort in it.
[05:32] <MrKB> or does it have to be a permanent install?
[05:32]  * MrKB wants to have the latest
[05:32]  * MrKB wants the latest even if he doesn't know what's different about it XD
[05:32] <varunendra> Not necessarily a permanent install. But since restarting nm service is causing trouble, it may fail on live session.
[05:33] <Tylerjd> Indeed, MrKB try 12.04. My HTPC is running - and has to stay - at 12.04 because AMD dropped legacy driver support for installs of X later than what is on 12.04
[05:33]  * MrKB stabs AMD
[05:33] <varunendra> MrKB, 12.04 will be supported till april 2017, while 13.04 only till Jan. next year.
[05:34] <MrKB> I never understood why that worked like that?
[05:34] <varunendra> oh march,, not jan.
[05:34] <Tylerjd> Why the support worked like that?
[05:34] <MrKB> is it cause 12.04 is more of a milestone and 13.04 is a steppingstone release?
[05:34] <MrKB> Tylerjd - some releases are LTS
[05:34] <MrKB> 12.04 is one of them
[05:34] <varunendra> MrKB, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[05:34] <Tylerjd> 12.04 is a long-term support edition, used for more enterprise support
[05:35] <MrKB> my question was what decides which ones gets LTS
[05:35] <Tylerjd> Every 4 releases I believe
[05:35] <MrKB> I see
[05:35] <varunendra> and 13.04 is indeed dying in jan :/
[05:35]  * MrKB wonders why he needs support though
[05:35] <MrKB> and?
[05:35]  * MrKB will update to newer version as soon as it's out and stable lol
[05:35] <Tylerjd> You don't. Servers and enterprisesdo
[05:36] <MrKB> :) ^
[05:36] <Tylerjd> Enterprises don't want to be re-installing every 6 months
[05:36] <MrKB> stop trying to sway me to old software varunendra O_O
[05:36] <Tylerjd> And I like my servers on a stable edition
[05:37] <Tylerjd> I mean Debian 7 was just released. And it contains practically the same software as 12.04
[05:37] <varunendra> MrKB, LTS is meant to provide stability, while a rolling release like 13.04 is meant to provide cutting edge (or bleeding edge) support. Can be more buggy.
[05:37] <MrKB> I see
[05:37] <clcto> varunendra: 13.04 is not rolling release
[05:37] <varunendra> And you can always install the latest kernel if necessary.
[05:37] <MrKB> varunendra - what do you want to do next then? 12.04? blob driver? or install 13.04 and continue troubleshooting (which would probably be blog driver install lol) then?
[05:37] <MrKB> if I install, my main concern will then turn to video driver
[05:38] <MrKB> once that's done, then wifi
[05:38] <Tylerjd> When I am running 30+ servers. It is a pain in the arse to update and fix all of them every 6 months. I like to do it at my leisure
[05:38] <MrKB> so I guess install is a good option. gives us a break from wifi
[05:38] <MrKB> Tylerjd - I see
[05:38] <varunendra> clcto, to be honest, I don't even understand the proper meaninh of "rolling release" yet. So yeah, that could be misleading. Sorry.
[05:38] <Tylerjd> Arch is a rolling release type distro
[05:38] <wheatthin> unless there's a major update, then there's no point in a production environment
[05:38] <thechris> Is there any way to have ubuntu avoid using a partition marked as swap for swap?
[05:38] <clcto> rolling release doesnt have versions, just always the newest packages
[05:38] <Tylerjd> swapoff
[05:39] <thechris> Or, on a related question, is there anyway to determine why an unused partition is "busy"
[05:39] <Tylerjd> lsof
[05:39] <varunendra> MrKB, so far I couldn't notice any problem with the driver. It seems more like a configuration or NM issue to me.
[05:39] <Tylerjd> lsof /dev/deviceid
[05:39] <MrKB> so the blob driver probably wouldn't fix it? :(
[05:40] <eCurrency> ok - Im back everybody... still need some help with rebooting and bitcoin daemon - please check out http://pastebin.com/6DTggf57
[05:40] <x5ives> Should install an app with a .deb or tarball binary?
[05:40] <thechris> right now, the installer fails when it tries to bring up the swap partition, and a manual mkswap doesn't work either
[05:40] <varunendra> oh, thanks for that clcto ^^
[05:40] <iceroot> x5ives: deb
[05:40] <x5ives> iceroot: Why?
[05:40] <iceroot> x5ives: but you should have a look first if the package is in the repos instead of downloading it from the web
[05:40] <x5ives> iceroot: It's not as far as I can tell.
[05:40] <iceroot> x5ives: because ubuntu is based on deb-files and not self compiled stuff
[05:40] <varunendra> MrKB, I don't think so. But we can try that if everything else fails. Not a good idea on a live session 'with problems' though.
[05:41] <wheatthin> thechris, and you've created a swap partition?
[05:41] <MrKB> I see
[05:41] <Tylerjd> thechris: Can you elaborate - swapoff will turn off swapping to a device and swapon will turn it on - unless I am misunderstanding
[05:41]  * MrKB wonders what's causing the problems
[05:41] <MrKB> we already checked the md5 :(
[05:41] <MrKB> should I maybe try another flash drive? You think that's it?
[05:41] <x5ives> iceroot: The tarballs I'm referring too isn't the source
[05:41] <MrKB> or once Ubuntu is loaded into memory, it's loaded?
[05:42] <thechris> wheatthin: Tylerjd: I just found my issue.  I made a md-raid array from those two partitions, but because they are listed as type "swap" the installer assumes they can be formmated as such
[05:42] <x5ives> iceroot: Just clarifying if you know that
[05:42] <varunendra> MrKB, it seems like a network configuration or firmware memory/compatibility issue to me. Nothing else. USB itself is fine as far as I can tell.
[05:42] <wheatthin> thechris, I was about to say something like that
[05:42] <Tylerjd> thechris: Ah yes. The absolute joy of mdadm and lvm
[05:43] <MrKB> [01:42:41 AM] <varunendra> .... USB itself is fine as far as I can tell. <-- Are you refering to usb wifi antenna or usb flash drive in this sentence?
[05:44] <thechris> wheatthin: Tylerjd: yes, and really, I don't think I even want swap.  8GB of RAM for a light-use home file server seems like plenty.
[05:44] <varunendra> the flash drive , the one you are booting from.
[05:44] <MrKB> ok
[05:44] <wheatthin> thechris, if you plan on doing live conversions, you still might want it
[05:44] <MrKB> thechris - there's no such thing as enough RAM. ever.
[05:44] <MrKB> <.<
[05:44] <Tylerjd> thechris: Naw, you need all of your hardrive as swap. What are you thinking */sarcasm
[05:44] <wheatthin> thechris, I have 6gb of ram, and still use a bit of swap, depending on which programs are in use
[05:45] <MrKB> varunendra - so what now?
[05:45] <x5ives> iceroot: Did you realize that I meant a tarball binary, and not source? Just clarifying.
[05:46] <Tylerjd> thechris: It is always a good idea to have some swap though, like wheatthin said
[05:46] <varunendra> MrKB, I'd suggest my regular thing - create a thread on ubuntuforums.org, and pm me (my id is same there - varunendra). I really come to IRC rarely.
[05:46] <Tylerjd> also, wheatthin, you are making me hungry with your username considering that is my favorite snack
[05:46] <wheatthin> lol
[05:46] <varunendra> and meanwhile, give 12.04 a spin. Who knows if it magically fixed everything :) MrKB
[05:47] <MrKB> :-\
[05:47] <iceroot> x5ives: always use the deb instead
[05:47] <eCurrency> It looks busy in here, and I'm sorry to bother, but can somebody please help me with ubuntu - I get errors witht he instructions at https://github.com/kyledrake/coinpunk/blob/master/docs/install-ubuntu.md - starting with "sudo gem install bundler" - it returns and error...
[05:47] <MrKB> varunendra - as soon as I get 12.04 up and running, I'll want to update XD
[05:47] <varunendra> Not a problem.
[05:47] <varunendra> update is different than "Upgrade" :D
[05:48] <iceroot> x5ives: because then you can manage the installation and removing part with dpkg/apt-get
[05:48] <MrKB> it is a problem, though varunendra. it's gonna cause problems like it is now, won't it? :-\
[05:48] <MrKB> varunendra - which one is which?
[05:48] <x5ives> Thanks much.
[05:48] <eCurrency> can someone look at: http://pastebin.com/6DTggf57 - please
[05:48] <iceroot> x5ives: so you are not using software which is not known by dpkg/apt-get  you can easily update the software, also the dependencies will be checked
[05:48] <varunendra> MrKB, since you'll be on a fresh install, trying is better than guessing..
[05:49] <Saik> does 12.04 install openssh-server by default?
[05:49] <x5ives> I see, thank you.
[05:49] <MrKB> ok so 12.04 it is. do you recommend I try it before I install it?
[05:49] <SwedeMike> Saik: I don't believe it does.
[05:49] <sere> Saik: no
[05:49] <wheatthin> since it's by GIT, I don't think it's covered in this channel
[05:49] <wheatthin> eCurrency,
[05:49] <eCurrency> yes?
[05:49] <varunendra> MrKB, sure!
[05:49] <wheatthin>  ^
[05:49] <MrKB> are you leaving IRC soon? I'm going to try this now.
[05:50] <Saik> SwedeMike, sere: it's not openssh-server anymore though?
[05:50] <eCurrency> :( - I got sent here by people in #bitcoin
[05:50] <eCurrency> because it's a ubuntu os install
[05:50] <varunendra> MrKB, I can leave it on. Just ping me when you have something (it is past midnight at your part not mine :P)
[05:50] <MrKB> :P
[05:50] <varunendra> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:51] <MrKB> thanks for the link varikonniemi
[05:51] <MrKB> varunendra*
[05:51] <wheatthin> eCurrency, You'll have to follow their uninstall instructions, and then install it through apt-get or software-manager
[05:52] <eCurrency> whose uninstall instructions? I have not seen any
[05:52] <Guest98535> hey guys
[05:52] <Guest98535> i need to add a user to the audio group, cant seem to get it
[05:52] <Guest98535> sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER
[05:53] <Guest98535> that gives me the following options:
[05:53] <Saik> SwedeMike, sere: does openssh-server have a new name? I can't find it in the software manager
[05:53] <Guest98535> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769974/
[05:54] <SwedeMike> Saik: openssh-server perhaps? "apt-cache search ssh" should make you find it.
[05:54] <wheatthin> eCurrency, I'm not sure, but I'd look for the launchers and /etc/rc.x and remove all known instances of the bitcoin launcher
[05:55] <eCurrency> This is the ubuntu channel and know one can tell me how to get a program to start upon reboot ?!?!
[05:55] <wheatthin> then go to the installation directory of bitcoin and delete the root of the installation
[05:55] <reisio> eCurrency: once?
[05:55] <eCurrency> If the server goes goes down - when it goes back up
[05:55] <tking> hi
[05:55] <Saik> SwedeMike: searching the package manager ofr SSH gave me a lot of GUI apps for other servers
[05:56] <thechris> eCurrency: is this a GUI or CLI application?
[05:56] <eCurrency> CLUI
[05:56] <wheatthin> by deleting the entries in /etc/rc.x it'll stop it from launching at boot
[05:56] <eCurrency> CLI
[05:56] <tking> i notice my sound is not as good on ubuntu as it is on windows any solution?
[05:56] <reisio> tking: not as good?
[05:57] <wheatthin> eCurrency, then you can go ahead and delete where you installed it to
[05:57] <wheatthin> eCurrency, once that happens, then you can install it using apt-get, and it'll setup all the launchers
[05:57] <thechris> eCurrency: you should be able to add it to an init script in /etc/init.d/ or such.
[05:58] <eCurrency> When I'm at the CLI I type "bitcoin --daemon" - but yesterday I came back and it was not running - seems the server went down - I had to run bitcoin --daemon again - in centos - I had no problem - I even did it with webmin... ubuntu seems to be a problem
[05:58] <wheatthin> that's because you didn't run it as a service
[05:58] <wheatthin> which installing it as a repository package, will set it up to use
[05:58] <eCurrency> can I uninstall it via webmin?
[05:59] <thechris> eCurrency: and yes, if the package has its own scripts for this purpose, those would be preferred.
[05:59] <wheatthin> eCurrency, I'd first issue updatedb (as root if it's your own server)
[06:00] <eCurrency> yes
[06:00] <wheatthin> eCurrency, then I'd go and delete the rc scripts, and then delete the main path
[06:00] <wheatthin> eCurrency, you can find the main path after updatedb and using   'locate bitcoin'
[06:00] <tking> reisio i get some unclear sound
[06:00] <tking> reisio the sound quality
[06:01] <eCurrency> I'll give it a shot
[06:01] <reisio> tking: run 'alsamixer' from a terminal, make sure PCM isn't too high
[06:01] <Guest98535> anyone have a second?
[06:01] <eCurrency> don't use Anything that says "sudo" if I'm root?
[06:01] <Guest98535> i need some help
[06:02] <reisio> eCurrency: hrmm?
[06:02] <Sir-Litepool> whats up
[06:02] <Guest98535> hey man
[06:02] <Guest98535> i need to add myself to the audio group
[06:02] <Guest98535> ive been using the following command
[06:02] <Sir-Litepool> just ask i probably won't be able to help you but someone may
[06:02] <wheatthin> eCurrency, sudo is so you can become root momentarily
[06:02] <eCurrency> I keep getting told that I didn't have to use sudo even though the instructions say "sudo blah blah blah"
[06:02] <Guest98535> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769984/
[06:02] <reisio> eCurrency: and?
[06:03] <eCurrency> just askin
[06:03] <reisio> Guest98535: I'd use gpasswd
[06:03] <eCurrency>   <---- stinkin newb
[06:03] <Guest98535> could you explain?
[06:03] <Guest98535> not well versed in all this just yet
[06:03] <reisio> eCurrency: invariably you are going to see examples of commands that use sudo which don't strictly require it
[06:03] <wheatthin> eCurrency, just use it if you run into permission problems while trying to delete the files
[06:04] <wheatthin> use 'sudo updatedb' so it can find ALL files within /
[06:05] <wheatthin> eCurrency, it'll need it, cause with normal permissions, it won't index all the files
[06:05] <reisio> well, you can use the package manager to find files outside of /home/, usually
[06:06] <reisio> not that there's any harm indexing them
[06:06] <wheatthin> reisio, he didn't use package manager to install
[06:06] <eCurrency> ok... what about this command that always errors: gem install bundler
[06:06] <reisio> huh?
[06:06] <reisio> eCurrency: what error?
[06:06] <eCurrency> 1 sec
[06:06] <eCurrency> "gem: command not found"
[06:06] <wheatthin> reisio, he used GIT to install
[06:06] <eCurrency> from the # CLI
[06:07] <reisio> wheatthin: to install what?
[06:07] <wheatthin> bitcoin
[06:07] <reisio> oh
[06:07] <reisio> well, obviously he should have used a package manager :p
[06:07] <wheatthin> obviously, but he's newb
[06:07] <reisio> :p
[06:07] <eCurrency> followed instructions at https://github.com/kyledrake/coinpunk/blob/master/docs/install-ubuntu.md
[06:07] <reisio> eCurrency: gem is an executable provided by a ruby implementation
[06:08] <eCurrency> their kinda bogus
[06:08] <eCurrency> they're kinda bogus - I followed step by step - even went out and got the exact OS
[06:08] <eCurrency> *they're
[06:08] <wheatthin> eCurrency, ehh, if you used the package manager, it would have worked
[06:09] <eCurrency> https://github.com/kyledrake/coinpunk/blob/master/docs/install-ubuntu.md did explain anything about a package manager
[06:09] <eCurrency> *didn't I mean
[06:09] <wheatthin> that's github's version not ubuntu repo
[06:11] <wheatthin> eCurrency, now do what I said, and then use apt-get or package manager to install bitcoind
[06:11] <eCurrency> ok - starting
[06:13] <wheatthin> eCurrency, then you'll be able to use webmin, or ubuntu's "service" script to stop/restart the daemon
[06:13] <dhart> hi. any ubuntu cloud users here experienced with resizing filesystems in qcow2 images?
[06:13] <MrKB> varunendra - 12.04 is working fine as far as video. still not getting connection to Light though.
[06:13] <MrKB> (live, not installed)
[06:16] <MrKB> varunendra - after failing to connect to Light, I turned on AndroidAP. It didn't show up in the list of APs so I turned off Wifi and turned it back on. Now I see no APs. Not even [ iwlist wlan0 scan ] shows any APs! :-\
[06:16] <Global_Radio> hi
[06:17] <Global_Radio> is there a way to view a live clock in terminal/cli?
[06:17] <wheatthin> type date
[06:17] <Global_Radio> thats not live
[06:17] <SwedeMike> Global_Radio: "watch date"
[06:17] <Global_Radio> thanks for your reply
[06:17] <varunendra> MrKB, give me 10 min.. keep tryig in the meanwhile
[06:17] <Global_Radio> ok swede, going to try it
[06:18] <MrKB> ok
[06:18] <wheatthin> SwedeMike, nice call
[06:19] <jordanrx123> i'am not speak english
[06:19] <wheatthin> SwedeMike, learning something new every day :p
[06:20] <jordanrx123> i'am from indonesia, where you from ?
[06:21] <Global_Radio> SwedeMike, is there a way to view the date and time as a simple line of text instead of a big page in the terminal?
[06:21] <jordanrx123> hei wheatthin ?
[06:23] <SwedeMike> Global_Radio: not easily that I know of.
[06:23] <MrKB> I get what wlan0 and eth0 are, but what's lo?
[06:24] <Global_Radio> thank you SwedeMike
[06:24] <wheatthin> MrKB, it's for loopback
[06:24] <MrKB> ok thanks wheatthin
[06:24] <SwedeMike> MrKB: a virtual interface network application can talk over even if there is no active network interface. It's called "loopback".
[06:25] <Limit_> When talking about sources.list they mean sources.list.d or sources.list.save because I do not have sources.list file in /etc/apt/ ?
[06:25] <Limit_> or is there a sources.list file?
[06:26] <varunendra> MrKB, okay I'm back. Good to know you have a working GUI now. That's a progress! (thanks to LTS I guess)
[06:26] <MrKB> indeed thanks to LTS varunendra. I didn't do anything special. Just popped in the USB drive and clicked on boot from USB lol
[06:27] <MrKB> btw I just restarted the live install, hopefully wifi is working again
[06:27] <varunendra> MrKB, if still no ap in "sudo iwlist scan", Check "rfkill list"
[06:27] <MrKB> ok
[06:28] <varunendra> Limit_, have you lost your /etc/apt/sources.list file? the ".save" file is just a backup of it that you can use in that case.
[06:29] <Limit_> varunendra: thanks :) I was thinking same but was not sure!
[06:29] <varunendra> Limit_, make sure to keep it as backup. Just create a copy from it.
[06:30] <Limit_> varunendra: sure!
[06:30] <Limit_> a question though. How was apt-get update working without sources.list?
[06:31] <varunendra> Limit_, perhaps through the other files in sources.list.d directory?
[06:32] <Limit_> Not sure because those in the sources.list.d are the ppas that I added while those updated were ubuntu sources
[06:33] <MrKB> varunendra - 12.04 fails
[06:33] <MrKB> it won't even connect to AndroidAP :(
[06:33] <Limit_> varunendra: sorry my bad! I read it wrong. You are right. It is files from sources.list.d