[12:00] <tristanmike> patrick52222: gnome-look.org
[12:00] <TeMagic> hi there!
[12:00] <ernz> gnome-look.org Patrick52222
[12:00] <rem> FYI: http://www.thawte.com/
[12:00] <redguy> sfar-ubu: try running file the_file.tar.bz2
[12:00] <TeMagic> I have an issue, that I need help with
[12:00] <rhythminmind> anyone get smb to work in nautilus in dapper?
[12:00] <ernz> Thanks for your help all.
[12:00] <ernz> Im to bed
[12:00] <mwe> rhythminmind: yeah
[12:00] <kRaKoN> !tell kRaKoN about universe
[12:00] <ernz> Good night
[12:00] <rhythminmind> in broken in all my updated systems
[12:00] <rhythminmind> it's
[12:00] <rebelguys6> ask away TeMagic
[12:00] <Belgain> hi there; quick question - i've got a remote control properly working under breezy, how can i get a certain program to launch on a certain keypress?
[12:01] <TeMagic> how do I run only terminal in ubuntu. I mean how do I close down X, in order to upgrade my display drivers?
[12:01] <rhythminmind> did you have to change anything?
[12:01] <rem> http://www.thawte.com/secure-email/personal-email-certificates/index.html
[12:01] <c0llin> can someone help me with compiling wine(amd64)??
[12:01] <mwe> rhythminmind: I just typed smb:/
[12:01] <Belgain> i'm using the remote in mythtv, but would like to be able to actually use it to launch mythtv as well....
[12:01] <rhythminmind> no go for me.. allot of people are having the same issue as i
[12:01] <mwe> rhythminmind: it's been a while though. might have broken since, I haven't checked lately
[12:01] <redguy> c0llin: wine is not for amd64
[12:02] <mwe> rhythminmind: does it work from CLI or konqueror or something?
[12:02] <TeMagic> anybody know?
[12:02] <c0llin> redguy: is there a way i can use it?
[12:02] <BlueHeron> c0llin, i think you can setup a 32bit chroot
[12:02] <NickGarvey> TeMagic: hold ctrl alt backspace
[12:02] <NickGarvey> that sholud kill x
[12:02] <rhythminmind> mwe - yeah it works with others
[12:02] <BlueHeron> restart X
[12:02] <BlueHeron> :-p
[12:02] <TeMagic> doesn't that just restart X?
[12:02] <BlueHeron> yea
[12:02] <BlueHeron> it restarts it
[12:02] <rhythminmind> i've heard it's a gnome config
[12:03] <mwe> rhythminmind: hmm. sounds like nautilus is broken then :|
[12:03] <TeMagic> I need to shut it down, because I can't upgrade drivers while X is running
[12:03] <NickGarvey> someone told me holding it restarted
[12:03] <rhythminmind> gnome-vfs or something
[12:03] <NickGarvey> killed*
[12:03] <BlueHeron> NickGarvey^ they lied to you :-P
[12:03] <rebelguys6> er no, it kill s
[12:03] <rebelguys6> it kills it,
[12:03] <Belgain> no idea on how to bind IR input events to program launching then...?
[12:03] <rhythminmind> well you fix one thing break anouther
[12:03] <rebelguys6> gdm/kdm restarts it
[12:03] <BlueHeron> no it does not lol, it restarts it :-p
[12:04] <rem> this is what i get when i try to send a signed mail: Enter the password for `NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services'
[12:04] <rambo3> was used to ctrl alt f1
[12:04] <NickGarvey> eh alright, I don't use a gui most of the time
[12:04] <TeMagic> ctrl alt f1?
[12:04] <stegallo> hello
[12:04] <TeMagic> I'll try... thanks!
[12:04] <rem> I searched Everywhere for that @"* NSS user ... :(
[12:04] <mwe> TeMagic: remember alt-f7 brings you back to X
[12:05] <rem> and No One seems to know what it is ... :(
[12:06] <steve_> unable to find printer driver for hp office jet pro k550...not available from hp. ideas?
[12:06] <BlueHeron> steve_^ you tried setting it up in cups ?
[12:06] <mwe> steve_: best bet is to search linuxprinting.org
[12:07] <steve_> tried new printer under administration
[12:07] <BlueHeron> steve_: or set it up in system>administration>printing
[12:07] <BlueHeron> didn't work?
[12:07] <mwe> steve_: that will tell you if any driver works for other people and if so what driver
[12:07] <steve_> nope
[12:07] <rhythminmind> mwe - what smb client would you use
[12:07] <mwe> steve_: go to linuxprinting.org and search the database
[12:07] <BlueHeron> hmm the refresh rate is set to 61hz that's weird
[12:07] <mwe> rhythminmind: smbmount
[12:07] <steve_> linuxprinting.org, here i come!!! thanks!
[12:08] <rhythminmind> ahh yes
[12:08] <flint> Seveas, what up dog?
[12:08] <Seveas> flint, ?
[12:08] <mwe> rhythminmind: smbmount  //HOST/SharedDocs /mnt/share -o password=<secret>
[12:09] <rhythminmind> thanks
[12:09] <flint> Seveas, just passing thru thought I would say hi...
[12:09] <Seveas> hi
[12:09] <Joetheodd> hi seveas!
[12:10] <flint> Seveas, you are on CET eh?  you should get some sleep...
[12:10] <Rayman> Hey, I'm looking for a cheap 54mb wlan card that'll easily work with linux.
[12:10] <Seveas> flint, true, true - I have 3690 bugmails to go though
[12:10] <matute> Hi!..I'm from argentina and I'm newbe in ubuntu...
[12:11] <Matthewv> hi matute
[12:11] <tristanmike> welcome
[12:11] <matute> Hi all just to say that and read something of your help...
[12:11] <flint> Rayman, i like Belkin cards they are very cheap...
[12:11] <L0ch> Hi everyone. I would like to use both Windows 2000 and Ubuntu on my computer. I was able, years ago, to install five different OS on a harddrive, but I can't remember how I did that (probably a multiboot software). Is there a safe and easy way to do this with Ubuntu? If so, where could I find info on this? Any help welcome!
[12:11] <mwe> Rayman: I hear prism2 based cards should work well
[12:11] <matute> thanks for welcome me...I just open the Xchat IRC window and found all you talking...
[12:11] <rem> found this: That's what I thought. Ok, from what I know (and I'm going to keep poking around to find out more) Evolution 2.0.2 has a bug that's preventing you from importing that certificate
[12:11] <rem> ??
[12:12] <Seveas> L0ch, the ubuntu installer woll do that for you automatically if you install windows before linux
[12:12] <matute> It's like another world behind the window...jeje
[12:12] <dj-fu> L0ch, make seperate partitions.. Install windows on one (it must be a Primary partition), install linux after you install windows
[12:12] <Kovecses> L0ch: just make sure you have the partitions set up and you will be fine
[12:12] <flint> Seveas, you ever heard of a network but in breezy that effects the nic on sony viaos?  I just told someone to just invoke networking again... and that seemed to do it.
[12:12] <dj-fu> grub will auto-detect it, and add it to your boot loader
[12:12] <flint> Seveas, speaking of bugs that is...
[12:12] <rambo3> LOch there is a even video on googlevideo for installing ubuntu and windows
[12:12] <matute> well guys...i'll join another day, thanks for be there. chears! --matute
[12:12] <Seveas> flint, too vague - could you be more sepcific?
[12:12] <flint> :^)
[12:13] <natalie> hello all.  I was wondering if anyone had anysuggestions that might be able to help me.  I have tried different installations of 5.10 and none of them seem to work properly.  They all freeze when it gets to the login screen.  I have tried fixing the video driver, but that doesn't work either.  I could really use any help, thank you.
[12:13] <flint> Seveas, na, I am a smart guy who can spell malone as well as you can... thanks anyway for rattling your brain on it anyway.
[12:13] <rambo3> L0ch, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu
[12:13] <Kovecses> natalie: have any other versions worked?
[12:13] <L0ch> Seveas, Kovecses and rambo3: Thanks a lot for the info :) Windows 2000 is already installed, so I guess I'll try right away, but I'll have a look at the googlevideo before. Thanks again! (Thanks Rambo3)
[12:13] <Rdde> found out what syntax i want to use for the cron but I dont know where the cron conf file is? =)
[12:14] <natalie> Kovecses: I have gotten 4.10 to work fine.
[12:14] <mwe> Rdde: crontab -e for the user crontab
[12:14] <flint> natalie, try typing server at the boot prompt.  That will install a command line only version of the product.  If that works then you may get some insight...
[12:15] <Rdde> mwe, thanks
[12:15] <natalie> flint: Are you reffering to the instalation?
[12:15] <flint> natalie, indeed at the boot: prompt type server...
[12:16] <Rayman> mwe: how could I tell what chip it's using?
[12:17] <mwe> Rayman: a card you don't have?
[12:17] <mwe> Rayman: vendors web page I guess
[12:17] <XVampireX> I can't install Ubuntu (I'm on live cd) I've tried everything, it seems as if my CDrom isn't thinking or perhaps it shouldn't at the time... Is there any step by step guide to installing ubuntu?
[12:17] <natalie> flint:  just to make sure before i do this, you want me to type server when I am attempting to do an install, correct.  Sorry, just want to make sure before I do this
[12:17] <BlueHeron> natalie: type serve for server install :_P
[12:17] <BlueHeron> server*
[12:17] <XVampireX> Anyone knows?
[12:18] <Rayman> mwe: I'd guess too. But at least belkin doesn't mention it. Oh well, googling around. ty.
[12:18] <rebelguys6> XVampireX, shouldn't you use the install cd
[12:18] <rebelguys6> ?
[12:18] <flint> natalie, put the cd in power up the computer watch the initial boot up.  The word boot: will appear in the bottom left hand corner.  type the word "server"
[12:18] <Sergi0> XVampireX, install doesnt work with livecd, download the install cd
[12:18] <XVampireX> Yes, I can't install it
[12:18] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: do you get an error?
[12:18] <natalie> flint, thanks, that should help.
[12:18] <XVampireX> I get an error, yeah
[12:18] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: what error
[12:18] <XVampireX> I didn't write it down so I don't really remember what it was
[12:18] <flint> natalie, no problem...
[12:18] <mwe> XVampireX: you can't install ubuntu from the live cd. you need the install cd
[12:18] <flint> sksk
[12:18] <XVampireX> I know it happens right when I have to install the kernel
[12:19] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: well if you tell us the error we can help better
[12:19] <XVampireX> mwe: I am on live cd BECAUSE I can't install it from the install cd
[12:19] <rem> followd this, but doesnt work: http://www.novell.com/documentation/evolution24/index.html?page=/documentation/evolution24/evolution24/data/encryption.html
[12:19] <rem> :(
[12:19] <mwe> XVampireX: I SEE
[12:19] <green_earz>  /join #loosechange
[12:19] <XVampireX> I can't really tell you the error but it doesn't let me install the kernel
[12:20] <XVampireX> And for some reason I can't eject the CD, because it might be because my cdrom drive is messed up
[12:20] <fiendskull9> !bot
[12:20] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:21] <XVampireX> Can't anyone help me? :'(
[12:21] <Sergi0> XvampireX where did the installer fail?
[12:21] <XVampireX> I already said....
[12:21] <XVampireX> Right when I have to install the kernel
[12:21] <XVampireX> I try to select some kernel and it won't let me
[12:22] <Sergi0> hmm could the cd be corrupt
[12:22] <XVampireX> Nope
[12:22] <XVampireX> Most likely the cdrom drive, because I just got the ubuntu cds in mail today
[12:22] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, you dont have to select kenrel in ubuntu install.
[12:22] <Sergi0> oh, ur using the 5.10 version
[12:22] <XVampireX> yes
[12:23] <Sergi0> but there is no kernel choice in the installer?
[12:23] <XVampireX> there is
[12:23] <Sergi0> hmm
[12:23] <rem> it asks Enter the password for `NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services' when trying to import the certificates in Evolution ..
[12:23] <Sergi0> how did u get there?
[12:23] <XVampireX> When it is supposed to install the base files
[12:23] <Matthewv> XVampireX, you cannot eject a cd when running in live cd mode... and 5.10 has a bug that means that the eject key on a cdrom drive mostoften will not work in ubuntu
[12:23] <XVampireX> after the partitioning
[12:23] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, there is no choice of kernel when installing, ubuntu uses one kernel.
[12:23] <tristanmike> XVampireX: yeah, if it's asking you to choose a kernel, there is something wrong...what type of computer do you have ?
[12:23] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, this isnt slackware :P
[12:23] <Sergi0> :)
[12:23] <tristanmike> ;)
[12:24] <XVampireX> Uhm
[12:24] <artur> do you know some channel with gawk gurus ?
[12:24] <rambo3> debian has that too
[12:24] <XVampireX> 1.5ghz p4
[12:24] <fiendskull9> Sergi0, thats the one thing i hate about installing slack, im always afraid im gonna mess up on the choosing of the kernel
[12:24] <redguy> artur: #awk?
[12:24] <BlueHeron> wget is sexy :-P
[12:24] <fiendskull9> !gawk
[12:24] <ubotu> fiendskull9: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:24] <XVampireX> Perhaps I messed up in the earlier stages, specifically in the partitioning...
[12:24] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, hes talking in general, the cpu wont matter uin this case.
[12:24] <BlueHeron> hm
[12:26] <XVampireX> Well, what am I supposed to say then? 256mbram memory, 128 video mbram geforce 5200, etc...
[12:26] <tristanmike> XVampireX: yeah, just wanted to make sure we weren't dealing with some obscure system
[12:26] <fiendskull9> tristanmike, like a p1 with 40 mb of ram :D
[12:26] <XVampireX> Isn't there some kind of installation guide?
[12:26] <tristanmike> fiendskull9: lol, 386 :P
[12:26] <Sergi0> there is ...
[12:27] <XVampireX> Where?
[12:27] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, its pretty basic, just select partition, and baddabing.
[12:27] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: did you make a swap partition ?
[12:27] <mwe> tristanmike: that's fancy. I stick with a modded commodore 64
[12:27] <XVampireX> Well a friend of mine told me to use 3 partitions
[12:27] <XVampireX> Yes I did
[12:27] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: with 128 ram your going to need a swap of like 768MB or more
[12:27] <XVampireX> I got 256 ram
[12:27] <BlueHeron> okay then 512
[12:28] <mwe> 256MB should be enough
[12:28] <XVampireX> and it asks me for 768 swap
[12:28] <BlueHeron> thats fine
[12:28] <fiendskull9> lol
[12:28] <XVampireX> Well, I followed what my friend told me
[12:28] <XVampireX> 3 partitions....
[12:28] <niki> i just installed some games with synaptic, and the sound isn't working on them...however, the sound works fine in gnome (like the little boop sound it makes when you make a selection), and also in amarok.  any ideas?
[12:28] <XVampireX> 1 for boot, 1 for home and 1 for swap
[12:28] <artur> i've problem with for ( index in array ) { print "e" } loop same times as array size  3x ~ "e e e" , but for ( index in array) { print array[index] } gives no output
[12:28] <BlueHeron> that might be your problem
[12:29] <mwe> XVampireX: well whatever. I keep everything on one partition
[12:29] <BlueHeron> the boot partition
[12:29] <Sergi0> XVampireX whats are the sizes
[12:29] <BlueHeron> do it without the boot partition
[12:29] <L0ch> rambo3: Hahaha, funny video but instructive.
[12:29] <fiendskull9> niki, you cant have amarokgaim/or any other sound apps running whilst playing
[12:29] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: not true
[12:29] <fiendskull9> niki, because they all use dev/dcp
[12:29] <rem> PK11_Authenticate failed
[12:29] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: if you use alsa you can
[12:29] <niki> fiendskull9, i thought about that too...i turned off amarok and had the same problem
[12:29] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: amarok can use alsa.
[12:29] <XVampireX> 5gb for boot 35gb for home and 768 for swap
[12:29] <tanuki> can someone tell me what the following means? umount: it seems /dev/sda2 is mounted multiple times
[12:29] <tanuki> eject: unmount of `/media/ipod' failed
[12:29] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, i know, i always set my audio progs to oss out
[12:29] <BlueHeron> 5GB FOR BOOT
[12:29] <BlueHeron> LOL
[12:29] <XVampireX> That's what he told me
[12:29] <Sergi0> :)
[12:29] <BlueHeron> thats terrible
[12:29] <mwe> XVampireX: why'd you even have a seperate /boot partition?
[12:30] <niki> fiendskull9, what should i do?
[12:30] <XVampireX> not boot partition, I mean plain / partition whatever it's called
[12:30] <BlueHeron> here's my setup 5gb for 10gb for /usr 140 gb for /home 5gb for /tmp
[12:30] <fiendskull9> niki, what games are they
[12:30] <Amaranth> /boot does not need 5gb
[12:30] <mwe> XVampireX: and 50MB or so would probably be more thanb enough
[12:30] <BlueHeron> 5gb for /
[12:30] <Amaranth> oh, you mean /
[12:30] <niki> fiendskull9, supertux and bumprace
[12:30] <BlueHeron> yea
[12:30] <BlueHeron> 5gb is good for
[12:30] <BlueHeron>  /
[12:30] <Amaranth> 5gb for / might be too small
[12:30] <BlueHeron> nah
[12:30] <BlueHeron> it works fine
[12:30] <XVampireX> I only got 40gb
[12:30] <BlueHeron> if /usr is on another part
[12:30] <BlueHeron> and /tmp ...
[12:30] <fiendskull9> niki, see if they have audio options in there prefrences, and set them to use oss (if u can)
[12:31] <mwe> XVampireX: I that case I'd go with just one partition
[12:31] <niki> fiendskull9, in supertux, the sound option was completely grayed out :S
[12:31] <davidmoore83> OK next problem - built in Soundblaster 24
[12:31] <BlueHeron> i have /home /tmp /usr and / on dif partitions
[12:31] <fiendskull9> niki, damn
[12:31] <BlueHeron> no swap
[12:31] <fiendskull9> !alsa
[12:31] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[12:31] <mwe> XVampireX: but that's just me. I don't see the point in loads of partitions for a home computer
[12:31] <fiendskull9> !tell niki about alsa
[12:31] <XVampireX> so what should I have?
[12:31] <BlueHeron> i'd go with 2 parts
[12:31] <BlueHeron> one for all system files
[12:31] <BlueHeron> and one for /home
[12:32] <XVampireX> what about swap?
[12:32] <mwe> XVampireX: just one big partition and a swap partition is my advice
[12:32] <BlueHeron> yea and a swap.
[12:32] <BlueHeron> mwe: putting home on a seperate is *always* a good idea
[12:32] <rem> PK11_Authenticate failed -- what is that  ?? thats when it aks for the NSS user ..
[12:32] <void^> i'd go with that BlueHeron recommends
[12:32] <mwe> BlueHeron: why is that?
[12:32] <polpak> XVampireX, I say one small partition < 10GB, one swap, and put the rest on /home
[12:32] <XVampireX> BlueHeron: That's what I did...
[12:32] <rem> in evolution
[12:32] <davidmoore83> BlueHeron: any ideas about built in SB 24?
[12:32] <tanuki> can someone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10932
[12:32] <polpak> mwe, makes reinstalls easier
[12:32] <BlueHeron> davidmoore83: nope
[12:32] <XVampireX> polpak: That's what I did
[12:32] <polpak> mwe, you can format the / partition without mucking up your personal files
[12:32] <fiendskull9> mwe, you dont lose all your documents
[12:33] <mwe> polpak: its easy with once partition as well. you don't have to erase /home because you have just one partition
[12:33] <XVampireX> Also
[12:33] <Sergi0> XvampireX, try to reinstall with another cd (if u have one) and try over, then come back here, and if there is an erro try to remember the info
[12:33] <XVampireX> Am I supposed to use LMV?
[12:33] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: no
[12:33] <XVampireX> or whatever it was
[12:33] <mwe> polpak: you can just rename /home then erase the other stuff from a live cd
[12:33] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: how big is your h
[12:33] <BlueHeron> d
[12:33] <Sergi0> >40gb
[12:33] <tanuki> can someone tell me how to eject my ipod? i already umounted it
[12:34] <mwe> polpak: reformatting should not be necesary
[12:34] <tanuki> but the ipod says do not disconnect
[12:34] <XVampireX> 40gb
[12:34] <void^> it generally helps with fs efficiency if you keep different usage patterns in different fs
[12:34] <BlueHeron> XVampireX: i'd go 10gb / partition and 30gb /home
[12:34] <Sergi0> and a swap ...
[12:34] <XVampireX> what about swap?
[12:34] <BlueHeron> and the swap
[12:34] <XVampireX> how much for swap?
[12:34] <BlueHeron> minuses from the home
[12:34] <BlueHeron> minused*
[12:34] <Sergi0> 512 is fine for u
[12:34] <BlueHeron> umm... 768 should be fine
[12:34] <polpak> XVampireX, supposed to be 2x your physical ram
[12:34] <BlueHeron> 512-768 you make the call
[12:34] <BlueHeron> i have 1gig ram and i never use a swap
[12:34] <BlueHeron> and i never have problems ..
[12:35] <fiendskull9> XVampireX, i have 1 gb of ram, with a 2gb swap.
[12:35] <mwe> polpak: so for 4GB of RAM you should have 8GB swap. I don't think so
[12:35] <void^> 500mb swap is bare minimum with 256mb ram
[12:35] <polpak> mwe, that's what the kernel devs recommend
[12:35] <XVampireX> And what kind of partitioning should I do exactly?
[12:35] <GnarusLeo> how would i go about changing my whole interface from gnome to kde?
[12:35] <XVampireX> You said there is a guide for installation... where?
[12:35] <void^> (unless you never do anything besides webbrowsing)
[12:35] <polpak> GnarusLeo, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <mwe> polpak: who are you refering to here? I never saw linus or andrew or someone like that say that
[12:35] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: that's a waste
[12:36] <BlueHeron> mwe: nope you shouldn't if you have 4gb of ram you don't need a swap lol
[12:36] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, ive got a 500 gb harddrive, lol. waste isnt a word in my case.
[12:36] <mwe> BlueHeron: exactly my point
[12:36] <redguy> BlueHeron: not true
[12:36] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: it can actually reduce performance though
[12:36] <void^> if it's a heavy load db server you might still need swap..
[12:36] <fiendskull9> polpak, kubuntu desktop apt0-get will install all kde programs
[12:36] <BlueHeron> void^: lol but it isn
[12:36] <natalie> hello again, I went ahead and installed the server version of 5.10 and it installed fine.
[12:36] <BlueHeron> :_P
[12:36] <tanuki> can someone explain to me how to eject my ipod?
[12:36] <BlueHeron> all i know is with 1gb of ram i have never needed a swap.
[12:37] <fiendskull9> GnarusLeo, do sudo apt-get install kdebase
[12:37] <BlueHeron> tanuki: sudo umount /dev/ipod
[12:37] <BlueHeron> wherever it's mounted
[12:37] <BlueHeron> use mount to find out
[12:37] <tanuki> i already unmounted it
[12:37] <natalie> is there anyway to change a server version in to a normal version?
[12:37] <BlueHeron> then just pull it out
[12:37] <tanuki> it was mounted twice for some reason
[12:37] <tanuki> but my ipod still says do not disconnect
[12:37] <natalie> without re-installing
[12:37] <BlueHeron> tanuki: it will always say that
[12:37] <polpak> mwe,  http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0101.3/1225.html
[12:37] <tanuki> great
[12:37] <Sergi0> natalie> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <frank23> natalie: yes:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:38] <redguy> BlueHeron: if you would have swap you could use more of your memory. Rarely used memory pages would get swapped
[12:38] <XVampireX> So is there a guide to install or not?
[12:38] <natalie> here is a question though, If I was having problems before with it freezing, is there any way to ensure that I won't have the same problem?
[12:38] <fiendskull9> polpak, whenever someone asks about changing kde interface, confirm they want ALL the kde programs, kubuntu-desktop install all its programs too, if they just want kde interface, then do apt-get kdebase.
[12:38] <mwe> polpak: did you read the post?
[12:38] <BlueHeron> redguy: swap is not needed with 1gb of ram +
[12:38] <XVampireX> Meh, bye
[12:38] <patrick52222> how do i install icon themes
[12:39] <mwe> polpak: linus says "But there really is no "fixed" rule: it can depend a lot on your usage patterns"
[12:39] <patrick52222> /home/patrick/Desktop/32146-glass-icons.tar.gz
[12:39] <patrick52222>  this is the format
[12:39] <polpak> mwe,  he also said ""memory x 2" is probably a good rule.
[12:39] <void^> well, needed, reasonable, useful, there are a few small differences there..
[12:39] <tristanmike> patrick52222: open up the theme manager and install, then select "theme details" to select the icons
[12:39] <polpak> grr
[12:39] <frank23> natalie: trying the live cd is probably the best way to check if ubuntu will work correctly
[12:39] <polpak> I don't know why xchat did that
[12:39] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: how do you imagine your ram spent if 15x kernels spent at 1x time?
[12:39] <nootrope> should BB boot up and automatically find a 10BaseT network connection? i have my laptop plugged into a router but have to "Activate" eth0 everytime i boot into Ubuntu.
[12:39] <BlueHeron> patrick52222: go to theme's and theme details then icons and drag that file into the window
[12:39] <redguy> BlueHeron: as I said: not true. Googling for proof
[12:39] <mwe> polpak: he's been wrong before. 8GB swap for 4GB of RAM is way over dimensioned
[12:40] <BlueHeron> kingspawn: dunno what you are saying
[12:40] <natalie> frank23, what i don't get is why it will work if i run the gdm from recovery mode, but won't otherwise.
[12:40] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, i play UT2004, on high performance, usually with TS in bg, and i have 1 gb of ram. i used to not have swap, and it lagged, i added swap, and it doesnt lag. i feel it nescessary to have swap. its personal usage prefrence/
[12:40] <patrick52222> cheers works now tahnks you all
[12:40] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: i don't play games, but i do burn dvd's .. and i have never had a problem
[12:40] <mwe> polpak: and for 64 MB of RAM you want 256 swap or more
[12:40] <frank23> natalie: not sure what could be the cause
[12:40] <polpak> mwe, well without delving into the details of what the OP was going to be doing with his computer I was attempting to give him a general case.
[12:40] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: how do you image your ram is spent if 50.000 proesses wants resources at one time?
[12:40] <BlueHeron> kingspawn: i run a learn system.
[12:40] <BlueHeron> lean*
[12:40] <natalie> frank23: alright, well, i'll just give it a try.
[12:41] <polpak> mwe, but if you want to know all the backstory and pug it into your magical formula for swap arbitration, don't let me stop you
[12:41] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: meaning?
[12:41] <taotime> hi folks anybody know how to get mp3 files (ringtones) to my motorola V551 GSM phone
[12:41] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, UT2004 on extreme settings is MUCH more demanding then dvd burnig, lol. it uses about 1.5 gb of ram on full settings.
[12:41] <BlueHeron> kingspawn: i don't run stuff for no reason
[12:41] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: stilll, you are on irc.
[12:41] <redguy> BlueHeron: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[12:41] <void^> it seems you buy ram for no reason :P
[12:41] <mwe> polpak: yeah. probably an ok rule of thumb, but a _very_ general rule
[12:41] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: again i don't play games... i just know i don't need a swap, and i have played games on pc's with noswap
[12:41] <polpak> mwe, I simply stated that 2x your ram is what's recommended by the kernel devs. And you claimed that they said no such thing. So I pointed out that they had, etc.
[12:42] <polpak> mwe, I didn't say it would blow up your computer if you used less/more than that
[12:42] <fiendskull9> redguy, you owned him with that link, lol.
[12:42] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: later, swap will be useless -> now it is used.
[12:42] <polpak> mwe, that's just waht they reccommend
[12:42] <mwe> polpak: linus is they?
[12:42] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: owned? grow up please. swap is not needed
[12:42] <polpak> mwe, I've read it elsewhere also
[12:43] <polpak> mwe,  it was just the first thread I could find
[12:43] <BlueHeron> This said, numerous Linux users do report success running a swapless system.
[12:43] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, lol, okay. im gonna make a survey. and run a benchmark :P just to be a smart ass.
[12:43] <mwe> polpak: it's still a very very general rule. just like linus himself suggests in the same post
[12:43] <redguy> BlueHeron: sure, you got more expertise that the guy who wrote one of the i/o shedulers for linux
[12:43] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, the linux users they surveyed must just use it to check there email.
[12:43] <BlueHeron> redguy: i got enough to know what works and i run no swap. period end of story /ignoring the word
[12:44] <BlueHeron> swap
[12:44] <budluva> does anyone here have a working broadcom wireless card (integrated) using breezy????? i have a broadcom 4318 card and was wondering if i have to use ndiswrapper or does the .deb from cafuego work??? im reading from the wiki and there are 2 methods, ndiswrapper and a .deb, just wondering which method people have had more luck with
[12:44] <fiendskull9> !wireless
[12:44] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:44] <polpak> mwe, I didn't say it wasn't a general rule.. I just said that that's the recommedation (which is therefore a general rule). If I wanted to get into the nitty gritty of each individual person's machine and what apps they're going to run etc. I'd never get anything done
[12:44] <budluva> fiendskull9, thanks bro
[12:44] <fiendskull9> lol
[12:44] <fiendskull9> np
[12:45] <Rayman> fiendskull9: I just installed ubuntu dapper with XFCE to a PII 256 ram and it works like a charm.. barely swaps any. The thing is, after upgrading 64mb -> 256mb, windows 98 did not speed up at all.
[12:45] <mwe> polpak: I think it's too general to be a good recomendation, but maybe that's just me
[12:45] <Rayman> and yes, linux does use ram much more efficiently than windows. Of that I'm sure of.
[12:45] <Animole> moo
[12:45] <polpak> mwe, well than what general rule would you recommend?
[12:45] <mwe> polpak: none
[12:45] <Rayman> I've read some posts about microsoft forcing swap for spying purposes etc ;<
[12:45] <mwe> polpak: I'd look at the system in question
[12:45] <BlueHeron> i'd say if you have more then 1gb you don't need a swap.
[12:46] <Animole> Quick question.... I have an old Compaq laptop with a D-Link wireless card, will Ubuntu support that card?
[12:46] <fiendskull9> !wireless
[12:46] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:46] <DBO> Rayman, you can take off your tinfoil hat...
[12:46] <BlueHeron> haha
[12:46] <fiendskull9> 2 wireless questions in less than 2 mins :_/
[12:46] <Rayman> DBO: you never know :f
[12:47] <polpak> mwe, well then you have far more free time than I do
[12:47] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: they never stop
[12:47] <BlueHeron> i dunno why people bother using wireless
[12:47] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, lol.
[12:47] <mwe> polpak: whatever. let's drop it
[12:47] <polpak> I'll just point anyone asking about swap in your direction
[12:47] <niki> hello....i am not getting any sound when i run games (supertux), but sounds work fine in gnome.  i followed the directions given by !alsa, but i'm still having the same problem...any ideas?
[12:47] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, exactly, its slow. ineffecient. goes down alot
[12:47] <DBO> Rayman, yeah, well you can definately disable it if you want... but it will just swap file in RAM then
[12:47] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: yep
[12:47] <Blippe> BlueHeron, cause it is so easy to set up?
[12:47] <BlueHeron> Blippe: wireless is?
[12:47] <fiendskull9> Blippe, not as easy as pluggin in a wire.
[12:47] <BlueHeron> Blippe: not from what i've seen..
[12:47] <conn> I'm streaming a dvd with vlc, and the cpu usage is about 20-30% and 70% idle cpu, but moving windows is very choppy. DMA is enabled for the DVD drive, can someone suggest another solution to the choppiness?
[12:48] <Wulstan> please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try.
[12:48] <polpak> niki, one sec
[12:48] <niki> polpak, k :)
[12:48] <BlueHeron> conn: how much ram
[12:48] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, well, linksys is pretty easy. but the routers overheat ALOT.
[12:48] <conn> BlueHeron: 1gb
[12:48] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: i have a linksys router, and a dlink switch both work great
[12:48] <toni_> hi ,,,,, is there a free software for linux which i can read pdf and edit in the same time ?
[12:48] <nootrope> yes no question: should BB boot up and automatically find a 10BaseT network connection? i have my laptop plugged into a router but have to "Activate" eth0 everytime i boot into Ubuntu.
[12:48] <BlueHeron> nootrope: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <fiendskull9> !pdf
[12:48] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[12:48] <fiendskull9> hmm
[12:48] <_mick> i have an install problem, when installing the base system, it stalls at 6%, the machien is a p3 550, with 256m ram. can anyone help me with this?
[12:48] <mwe> toni_: you can convert to pdf from other formats
[12:49] <narg> this is odd. I'm on a breezy box, but there is no /etc/shadow...
[12:49] <nootrope> thanx BlueHeron!
[12:49] <fiendskull9> toni_, i dunno of any editors. you can try wine and adobe acrobat.
[12:49] <toni_> !pdf ?
[12:49] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, toni_
[12:49] <gn0me> Hello! I have a symbolic link in my homedir to a scripts directory on another harddrive. Basically, sometimes my homedir gets cluttered (I try to use a tmp/ dir for almost everything, but things don't always stay clean) and to clean my homedir, I perform a "rm *" in it, it deletes everything except the dirs.. but also takes the symbolic link with it. I have a script to do the cleaning and rebuild the link, but I was wondering if there's a better way to set
[12:49] <BlueHeron> nootrope: do you have auto eth0 in that file somewhere ?
[12:49] <toni_> adobe is not free
[12:49] <Hal9000> how can i see how big the contents of a directory are, in shell?
[12:49] <niki> toni_, i got a pdf reader using automatix
[12:49] <toni_> ok ... i will check it
[12:49] <BlueHeron> Hal9000: ls -l i believe
[12:49] <nootrope> lemme check, BlueHeron
[12:49] <fiendskull9> toni_, gimme a sec, ill look up a pdf editor.
[12:49] <narg> Hal9000: ls -lh dir will do it
[12:49] <toni_> ok
[12:50] <toni_> thx ,,
[12:50] <rebelguys6> du .
[12:50] <BlueHeron> narg: thanks i knew i was missing a letter
[12:50] <BlueHeron> :-P
[12:50] <polpak> mwe, sorry if I came off argumentative. I just take offence when my attempts to inform people is discounted as being "rediculous", and my sources are called into question.
[12:50] <polpak> bah
[12:50] <Hal9000> BlueHeron: i mean something like df -h, but for a directory. i want to know the size of the directory, with all its content and subdirs
[12:50] <nootrope> BlueHeron, nope. no auto eth0
[12:50] <narg> BlueHeron: h isn't needed, but it gives it in kBs or MBs, not in bytes :p
[12:50] <fiendskull9> toni_, sudo apt-get install kword
[12:50] <niki> polpak, did you have an idea for me?
[12:50] <rebelguys6> du -sh Hal9000
[12:50] <fiendskull9> toni_, enjoy :)
[12:50] <Sergi0> Hal9000: du -h name-of-dir
[12:50] <BlueHeron> nootrope: on the bottom add auto eth0
[12:51] <Hal9000> thanks
[12:51] <polpak> niki, yes
[12:51] <BlueHeron> nootrope: save it and reboot see if it works
[12:51] <nootrope> cool. thanks, BlueHeron!
[12:51] <nootrope> ok
[12:51] <Wulstan> please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try.
[12:51] <fiendskull9> Wulstan, hmmmm.
[12:51] <toni_> ....
[12:51] <fiendskull9> !nvidia
[12:51] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:51] <toni_> sudo apt-get install kword
[12:51] <fiendskull9> toni_, yes.
[12:51] <toni_> is stoping and wants a cd
[12:52] <fiendskull9> toni_, what!?
[12:52] <fiendskull9> toni_, thats not right.... hmm
[12:52] <tristanmike> toni_: put the cd in
[12:52] <niki> toni_, don' tyou have the cd?
[12:52] <fiendskull9> tristanmike, its a free program
[12:52] <redguy> gn0me: ls -1 | grep -v the_link_filename | xargs rm
[12:52] <toni_> ok i will do
[12:52] <polpak> niki, try sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-esd
[12:52] <tristanmike> toni_: then comment that line out of your sources.list to avoid that
[12:52] <Bog_> can anyone here suggest a list manager for sending out monthly news letters?
[12:52] <fiendskull9> niki & tristanmike, its a apt-get program. kword. free.
[12:52] <gn0me> redguy: Ooh, thank you. :)
[12:53] <Bog_> and managing subscriptions
[12:53] <tristanmike> fiendskull9: yeah, it wants the ubuntu cd
[12:53] <michael> what channel was for scripters?
[12:53] <fiendskull9> tristanmike, ok.
[12:53] <niki> polpak, trying, ty :)
[12:53] <toni_> ok
[12:53] <toni_> now is working
[12:53] <fiendskull9> michael, as in OO programming?
[12:53] <michael> yea
[12:53] <fiendskull9> michael, any specific language?
[12:53] <nootrope> BlueHeron: sorry, the line *was* there all along. So i guess it's not the problem.
[12:53] <polpak> niki, if that doesn't help you can also try libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[12:53] <michael> .sh file kinda thing
[12:53] <fiendskull9> michael, #sh
[12:53] <niki> polpak, k :)
[12:53] <tristanmike> toni_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   put a # in front of the cd line, and ctrl-x to save
[12:53] <BlueHeron> nootrope: okay do me a favor, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:54] <fiendskull9> michael, one guy there
[12:54] <nootrope> yep. brb
[12:54] <fiendskull9> michael, #scripting
[12:54] <michael> O, i remember #bash  - thanks though
[12:54] <taotime> i m running ubuntu on a dell inspiron 5160 with a wireless network card. i put in the card but how will i know it is working
[12:54] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, here we go again :O lol.
[12:54] <fiendskull9> taotime, umm, open firefox?
[12:54] <toni_> why ?
[12:55] <clemyeats> taotime : type iwconfig
[12:55] <fiendskull9> toni_, itll get kword from the repos instead of cd
[12:55] <toni_>  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list what does it mean
[12:55] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: lol
[12:55] <toni_> ok
[12:55] <BlueHeron> toni_: run it in terminal ..
[12:55] <tristanmike> toni_: me? to avoid that pesky "asks for the cd" thing
[12:55] <fiendskull9> BlueHeron, im gonna keep count
[12:55] <BlueHeron> fiendskull9: lol
[12:55] <toni_> ah
[12:55] <tristanmike> toni_: that edits your "sources.list" file
[12:55] <toni_> but now is working and installing
[12:55] <narg> I'm configuring webmin, and in the miniserv.conf file, it has allow=<IP_ADDRESS>. I changed it to *, but it still denies nonlocalhosters. Do I need to run something?
[12:55] <Wulstan>  please help. i have an onboard nvidia soundcard, i've never used ubuntu before, and i have no sound. i've swapped stuff around in the multimedia system selector, and sound preferences. that's all i can think of to try. it's sound.
[12:56] <toni_> so i will wait ,,, until it finished the work
[12:56] <tristanmike> toni_: yeah, when you install stuff in the future though
[12:56] <toni_> ok ... thats a good tip
[12:56] <tristanmike> toni_: just a suggestion ;)
[12:56] <toni_> yes ... thats goood ,, thanks
[12:56] <nootrope> BlueHeron: http://pastebin.com/625985
[12:56] <redguy> Wulstan: could you paste the output of aumix -c 0 to the patebin?
[12:57] <redguy> !tell Wulstan about pastebin
[12:57] <BlueHeron> nootrope: what kind of connection is it, cable wired or.. ?
[12:57] <taotime> fiendskull9 :  clem_yeats : i tried both but nothing is happening
[12:57] <Wulstan> redguy, i'm afraid that means nothing to me.
[12:57] <redguy> Wulstan: do you know how to open a terminal?
[12:57] <nootrope> BlueHeron: ethernet cable to a Linksys router => DSL modem
[12:57] <Wulstan> redguy, yes
[12:57] <polpak> narg, are you sure that it's webmin that's denyting the access?
[12:58] <niki> polpak, that worked, thank you very much!
[12:58] <polpak> niki, =)
[12:58] <redguy> Wulstan: enter amixer -c 0 in the terminal
[12:58] <narg> polpak: Error - Access denied for <IP_ADDRESS> <- this is all I get.
[12:58] <BlueHeron> nootrope: then it uses pppoe, one second
[12:58] <BlueHeron> !pppoe
[12:58] <ubotu> well, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:58] <polpak> niki, it's cause some of the oss drivers don't work well with certain cards
[12:58] <redguy> Wulstan: copy the output of that command and paste it to the pastebin
[12:58] <redguy> Wulstan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:58] <niki> polpak, gotcha....thanks again....now i can play supertux all night with sound w00t
[12:58] <polpak> niki, and oss is what is installed by default for sdl lib (which is used by most games)
[12:59] <polpak> niki, it'll get solarwolf sound working too
[12:59] <redguy> Wulstan: and give me the link to the pasted output so that I can see it
[12:59] <nootrope> BlueHeron: but the router does the PPPoE connection, no?
[12:59] <niki> polpak, good...thats another i downloaded...haven't played it yet tho :)
[12:59] <echostorm> hi... can anyone assist me in getting my svideo tv-out working with ubuntu? I have the nvidia drivers installed and working properly... and get tv out during post and boot, but nothing until ubuntu begins shutdown.
[12:59] <BlueHeron> nootrope: do you have it set to do the conf?
[12:59] <polpak> narg, hrm.. don't know much about webmin I'm afraid
[12:59] <nootrope> ubuntu doesn't need to login via PPPoE if it's plugged into one of the router's ethernet ports, yes/no?
[01:00] <narg> polpak: does that look like a filewall error to you, or a webmin error?
[01:00] <patrick52222> how do i change the screensplash picture
[01:00] <BlueHeron> nootrope: is the router set to do the configuer of pppoe ?
[01:00] <nootrope> BlueHeron: yes.
[01:00] <polpak> narg, where are you seeing the error? is it in the browser, or a popup, or a log?
[01:00] <Wulstan> redguy, i think it's there, hang on and i'll find the link...
[01:00] <BlueHeron> nootrope: ok do ifconfig -a in a term and pastebin the results
[01:00] <narg> polpak: browser.
[01:00] <toni_> wow .... kword is working ......
[01:00] <patrick52222> how do i change the screensplash picture in gnome
[01:00] <toni_> thanks
[01:00] <nootrope> BlueHeron: ok. brb
[01:01] <Wulstan> redguy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10934
[01:01] <bimberi> !splash
[01:01] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[01:01] <Wulstan> redguy, i really don't know that i've done that correctly...
[01:01] <redguy> Wulstan: you did, wait a sec
[01:03] <Stormx2> eek... how do I symlink again/
[01:03] <nootrope> BlueHeron: http://pastebin.com/625987
[01:03] <XVampireX> I'm back with the error message
[01:03] <redguy> Stormx2: man ln
[01:03] <nootrope> BlueHeron: please note that i'm currently connected but only because i manually activated the Ethernet connection
[01:04] <XVampireX> "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[01:04] <XVampireX> "
[01:04] <XVampireX> Could anyone help me?
[01:05] <giuliano> ok ok ma qualcuno mi vede e mi saluta grazie
[01:05] <Stormx2> I guess... ln -s /path/to/current/directory /path/to/symlink ?
[01:05] <redguy> Wulstan: hmm, everything looks fine. You might try turning off the IEC958 output
[01:05] <redguy> Stormx2: ln -s /path/to/the/target /path/to/symlink
[01:05] <Wulstan> redguy: specifically where? (sorry)
[01:05] <XVampireX> The people I talked to just a few seconds ago....
[01:05] <XVampireX> "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system."
[01:05] <Bog_> anyone know of a preinstalled ubuntu virtual machine?
[01:06] <fiendskull9> does anyone know what "window maker" will be in the repos? will it be apt-get wm?
[01:06] <redguy> Wulstan: in the mixer settings, there should be a speaker icon in top right cornet of your desktop
[01:06] <giuliano> by by
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> How to "disable the check for a default display manager"?
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> fiendskull9: wmaker
[01:07] <fiendskull9> tonyyarusso, thanks man
[01:07] <chavo> Bog there's one for vmware
[01:07] <polpak> XVampireX, my guess is either not enough disk space, or bad cd.. ?
[01:07] <fiendskull9> tonyyarusso, im thinking bout trying it out, they talked about it in tux december 2005 issue.
[01:07] <redguy> Wulstan: if it's not that, sorry I can't help you
[01:07] <XVampireX> Can't be not enough diskspace
[01:07] <XVampireX> most likely bad cdrom
[01:07] <XVampireX> Can't be bad cd
[01:07] <fiendskull9> toots]
[01:07] <Bog_> chavo: I'm looking for server applications, not workstation
[01:08] <Bog_> chavo: I know vmware has an appliance download which is a user desktop
[01:08] <Wulstan> redguy: i see the 'mixer', but nothing with "IEC958 output" to be seen.
[01:08] <redguy> Bog_: you might have luck with xen I suppose
[01:08] <msid> can anybody tell me any video capture applications besides kino which is for i394 devices and xawtv which i am already aware of ?
[01:08] <^Odd^> is there anyone who can tell me why ubuntu will not run my agp bus which is powered by a SiS 746 chipset? it used to but something changed in the updates.....not even vesa works right. can anyone point me in the right direction ubuntu will not see the chipset or the agp bus but suse does O_o....
[01:08] <chavo> yeah I don't know of any
[01:08] <Bog_> redguy: I am looking for a vmware virtual machine with ubuntu preinstalled
[01:08] <Wulstan> redguy: i mean 'volume control'
[01:09] <XVampireX> So there's no fix?
[01:09] <cappiz> someone here that could help me out with some sed?
[01:09] <vladuz976> anybody here know how to use banshee with ipod?
[01:09] <matej_> i have this yellow icons in start menu in icewm if i pick up any of theme but Infadel! Why?
[01:10] <jerware> jerware
[01:10] <polpak> XVampireX, did you run the tests on the CD?
[01:10] <XVampireX> what tests?
[01:10] <polpak> XVampireX, when you first start the install it offers to test the CD
[01:10] <Bog_> is it easy to perform a text mode ubuntu install with just server components?
[01:11] <^Odd^> so know one has any ideas what might be causein my issue with my agp?
[01:11] <XVampireX> It doesn't?
[01:11] <XVampireX> I mean, it doesn't for me...
[01:11] <polpak> Bog_, fairly easy yes
[01:11] <matej_> i have this yellow icons in start menu in icewm if i pick up any of theme but Infadel! Why?
[01:11] <XVampireX> I don't think it's corrupt, I received it today in the mail!
[01:11] <redguy> Wulstan: sorry buddy, don't have gnome here, so I can't check and tell you what to set. Propably someone else in here might help you. By the command output I can tell, that your card is recognized, so all you have to do is to mess with the mixer and/or setup
[01:11] <Bog_> polpak: is there a text-mode software update feature?
[01:11] <polpak> Bog_, yes, apt-get
[01:12] <redguy> Wulstan: setup of sound in gnome
[01:12] <Bog_> polpak: does that tell me what patches are missing?
[01:12] <redguy> Bog_: yes, aptitude
[01:12] <polpak> Bog_, not sure what you mean by "patches are missing" ..
[01:12] <Wulstan> redguy: cheers. i'm still lost i'm afraid. i'll keep messing about...
[01:12] <XVampireX> I guess I'll have to try this "test cd" feature or whatever
[01:13] <Bog_> pol: will it automatically detect updates I'm missing?
[01:13] <polpak> Bog_, yes
[01:13] <tristanmike> TeChGuY-Canadian: linuxcommand.org
[01:13] <redguy> !tell Wulstan about sound
[01:13] <CosmoDad> if I reboot my machine, it instead powers down. How'd I fix that?
[01:13] <dyrne> say i have 2 active connections eth0 and eth1 is there a way to have my ftp program use eth1 while regular internet access is using eth0?
[01:13] <polpak> !tell TeChGuY-Canadian about CLI
[01:13] <redguy> Wulstan: see the link ubotu sent you, maybe that will help
[01:13] <Bog_> pol: ok, I'll try creating a virtual machine and installing ubuntu
[01:14] <niki^afk> every time i run apt-get, at the end, it tries to get something called msttcorefonts and it messes up...this happens no matter what i'm trying to apt-get.  any ideas?
[01:14] <CosmoDad> dyrne: you might be able to use iptables
[01:14] <Wulstan> redguy: thanks. i'll try... god this is confusing, but i'm not going back to xp. i swear it.
[01:15] <BlueHeron> where is the best place to add ifconfig eth0 up
[01:15] <BlueHeron> ?
[01:15] <BlueHeron> for loading a network interface on boot
[01:15] <dyrne> CosmoDad: no real experience with iptables guess its time to google :)
[01:15] <BlueHeron> dyrne: use firestarter
[01:15] <BlueHeron> dyrne: it gives it a gui
[01:15] <redguy> Wulstan: try in here later, maybe someone else will be able to help you
[01:15] <Wulstan> redguy: will do. thanks.
[01:15] <dyrne> k
[01:16] <Bog_> anyone in Toronto with an install CD?
[01:16] <redguy> BlueHeron: you might be interested in ifplugd
[01:17] <HOEHAVER> can someone gave me the link for the place you go when you have to type alot
[01:17] <BlueHeron> pastebin.com
[01:17] <redguy> BlueHeron: or, just edit /etc/network/interfaces and put a line with 'auto eth0'
[01:17] <HOEHAVER> thanks
[01:17] <BlueHeron> redguy: yea i'm helping somone and that didn't work
[01:17] <BlueHeron> redguy: it's a deeper problem then that
[01:18] <TheFaction20> can anyone help me with usb drivers?
[01:18] <redguy> BlueHeron: hmm ifconfig eth0 up is kindof a workaround...
[01:18] <BlueHeron> redguy: yea but if it works whats the problem0
[01:18] <BlueHeron> ;-)
[01:19] <BlueHeron> redguy: and it worked so problem solved
[01:19] <nootrope> thanks BlueHeron, and redguy!
[01:19] <corvax> just add a few lines to /etc/network/onterfaces to do that automatically
[01:19] <corvax> inter*
[01:19] <BlueHeron> nootrope: yep
[01:19] <niki> every time i run apt-get, at the end, it tries to get something called msttcorefonts and it messes up...this happens no matter what i'm trying to apt-get.  any ideas?
[01:20] <BlueHeron> niki: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:20] <TheFaction20> can someone help me get usb drivers so i can use my external drive?
[01:20] <polpak> niki, what error does it give?
[01:20] <niki> erm
[01:20] <TheFaction20> it will recognize it when i initially plug it in. but then seems to d/c after a minute or too
[01:20] <redguy> TheFaction20: hmm doesn't it work out of the box?
[01:20] <niki> hold on, trying BlueHeron's solution :)
[01:21] <TheFaction20> redguy: it does when in window
[01:21] <TheFaction20> s
[01:21] <TheFaction20> redguy: but for some reason it isn't beeing recognized my ubuntu on the install unless its named something else. b/c i want to install it on there
[01:21] <niki> polpak, now i'm not getting sound in chromium lol
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> How to take screenshots of X in general?  So I could get ones of the login screen, for instance.
[01:21] <polpak> niki, what is chromium?
[01:22] <niki> polpak, a game i got from synaptic
[01:22] <schloob> anyone care to list some reasons for switching from gentoo to ubuntu? after a little over a year of being a gentoo user, i'm kind of tired of the compile times and such. what does everyone like about ubuntu? :\
[01:22] <niki> polpak, scrolling space shooter kinda game
[01:22] <polpak> !info chromium
[01:22] <ubotu> chromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[01:22] <wermut> tonyyarusso: use a camera (it is impossible as far as i know)
[01:22] <redguy> TheFaction20: "unless its named something else." <- could you elaborate on this?
[01:22] <tristanmike> schloob: "it just works" TM
[01:22] <CosmoDad> if I reboot my machine, it instead powers down. How'd I fix that?
[01:22] <nazty> i have a external hard drive mounted too /media/200gig does anyone know why i cant change to group owner
[01:22] <niki> CosmoDad, i have that same problem
[01:22] <Wulstan> redguy: done it. thanks for the help. i'm not sure what did it, but it works now. cheers.
[01:22] <BlueHeron> CosmoDad: try using sudo shutdown -r now
[01:22] <corvax> hey nice
[01:23] <BlueHeron> CosmoDad: in a terminal
[01:23] <corvax> a new game for the kids to play
[01:23] <corvax> hehe
[01:23] <redguy> Wulstan: yay! :-)
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> wermut: Hmm.  'k.  I thought there was some command-line thing integrated with Gimp that would take an image from a set display.
[01:23] <schloob> tristanmike: eh, that sounds good enough for me :)
[01:23] <TheFaction20> redguy:i was looking for the name of the device "wd mybook" or something like that. but there was nothing like that.  so i was unawre what was what
[01:23] <nootrope> BlueHeron: i closed our priv window and failed to note the name of the file we changed. it was in /etc/init.d
[01:23] <schloob> maybe i'll try it in vmware first, and if i like it i'll just go with it
[01:23] <CosmoDad>  BlueHeron: I did sudo reboot which is supposedly the same
[01:24] <redguy> TheFaction20: it might be called sda.
[01:24] <nootrope> bootmisc.sh?
[01:24] <tristanmike> schloob: i mean, this is a support channel, but I've naught had a problem, well, one that wasn't my own stupidity ;)
[01:24] <nootrope> BlueHeron: never mind. sorry :\
[01:24] <TheFaction20> redguy:is there a way i can see what hardware is connected?
[01:24] <NickGarvey> whats a good media player guys?
[01:24] <redguy> TheFaction20: in the installer?
[01:24] <BlueHeron> nootrope: you get it?
[01:25] <redguy> TheFaction20: we are talking about the installer, right?
[01:25] <TheFaction20> redguy:no, while im using the live cd
[01:25] <Sergi0> NickGarver: vlc plays almost all
[01:25] <wermut> tonyyarusso: I'm not totally sure it it is impossible, but the screenshots of login screens I've seen so far were taken with a camera.
[01:25] <NickGarvey> !vlc
[01:25] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[01:25] <redguy> TheFaction20: are you using it right now?
[01:25] <NickGarvey> !xmms
[01:25] <ubotu> I guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[01:25] <schloob> tristanmike: oh, it is a support channel. i'm kind of used to chatting in distrobution channels :P anyways i'll  give it a try. thanks and bye!
[01:25] <TheFaction20> redguy:yes
[01:25] <corvax> Mplayer  or  vlc
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> wermut: Well, I have that option too, so if I don't hear something else soon, I can go with that.
[01:25] <nootrope> BlueHeron: yep. thanks
[01:25] <nazty> i have a external hard drive mounted too /media/200gig does anyone know why i cant change to group owner
[01:26] <BlueHeron> nazty: what a weird mount spot
[01:26] <nazty> whys that
[01:26] <BlueHeron> 200gig lol
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> wermut: Maybe this is what I'm looking for... 'man import'
[01:26] <BlueHeron> :-P
[01:26] <nazty> :)
[01:26] <nazty> it specifys the drive
[01:26] <corvax> nah you can preview a login screen
[01:26] <nazty> ;D
[01:26] <BlueHeron> hehe
[01:26] <corvax> then do a screenshot
[01:26] <nazty> im trying to chgrp it from root
[01:26] <nazty> and it wont let me
[01:26] <nazty> chgrp: changing group of `200gig': Operation not permitted
[01:26] <BlueHeron> nazty: did you use sudosu ?
[01:26] <BlueHeron> nazty: sudo su first
[01:27] <redguy> TheFaction20: run tail -f /var/log/messages in a terminal, plug in the drive and paste the output to pastebin.com please
[01:27] <nazty> yea
[01:27] <nazty> im su'ed in as root
[01:27] <nazty> root can write to it
[01:27] <nazty> read from ti
[01:27] <^Odd^> i have a question the updated version of ubuntu dosen't see my agp bus or be able to use it....but the live cd can is there a way to figure out why?
[01:27] <nazty> my user cant write jsut read
[01:27] <redguy> nazty: what filesystem is on the drive?
[01:27] <wermut> tonyyarusso: It seems that I was wrong, indeed.
[01:27] <nazty> fat32
[01:27] <nazty> its a vfat
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> wermut: I guess we both learn something :)
[01:28] <void^> you cannot change permissions or owner because fat32 doesn't support permissions or owner
[01:28] <BlueHeron> !ati
[01:28] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:28] <redguy> nazty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> How to install kdm theme from tarball?
[01:28] <nazty> yeah
[01:28] <polpak> void^, you can.. you just have to remount it
[01:28] <corvax> apt-get install kdm
[01:28] <nazty> but i cant change to permissions of the directory?
[01:28] <corvax> instead
[01:28] <BlueHeron> question: if i download the drivers from ati and use those will i get better performance ???
[01:28] <patrick52222> drag them into the window i think
[01:29] <polpak> BlueHeron, follow the wiki..
[01:29] <^Odd^> so does anyone have any idea about what is causeing my agp slot not to work after a fresh ubuntu inastall but the live cd runs it fine?
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> corvax: A theme, not the program.
[01:29] <polpak> BlueHeron, the drivers tend to be pretty well up to date
[01:29] <corvax> ah
[01:30] <corvax> untar it and then open the theme manager or whatever
[01:30] <redguy> nazty: vfat doesn't have ownership, does it?
[01:30] <corvax> and point to it
[01:30] <BlueHeron> polpak: i'm using the fglrx and ic an't do anything i 3ndi t's all very slow
[01:30] <corvax> i forget where the themes a files are located
[01:30] <corvax> you can move it there
[01:30] <corvax> the folder if you want'
[01:30] <polpak> redguy, you can specify which uid and gid to use as the owner and group for the files when you mount it
[01:31] <harm_>  /j #linuxgaming.net
[01:31] <polpak> BlueHeron, what video card, and what app?
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> corvax: Okay, I'll try that.
[01:31] <redguy> polpak: that was a rhetorical question :-)
[01:31] <BlueHeron> polpak: ati x700 pro 256MB pci-express and any 3d game like chromium or tuxracer
[01:31] <TheFaction20> redguy:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10936
[01:31] <polpak> BlueHeron, what is the output of glxinfo | grep -i direct
[01:32] <redguy> TheFaction20: so it's sdc now
[01:32] <redguy> TheFaction20: you should be able to access it
[01:32] <polpak> BlueHeron, you don't have the fglrx drivers installed
[01:32] <redguy> TheFaction20: provided that you have any partitions on it
[01:32] <BlueHeron> polpak: i'm using them... ??
[01:33] <budluva> hey everyone, just got my ati drivers working...8.16.20, was using "ati" driver before and had beautiful widescreen resolution, but am now stuck at 1024x768, tried editing xorg.conf but still wont let me go into widescreen res....anyone have a work around besides running latest ati drivers?
[01:33] <Aaron_Mason> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:33] <CarlF1> where is a description of what "recovery mode" is?
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> corvax: I'm not seeing an add option in the login manager part of kcontrol...
[01:33] <TheFaction20> redguy: now i get this after
[01:33] <polpak> !tell BlueHeron about ati
[01:33] <TheFaction20> redguy:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10938
[01:34] <redguy> TheFaction20: hmmm
[01:34] <redguy> TheFaction20: no idea what this means, sorry
[01:35] <TheFaction20> redguy:damn
[01:35] <polpak> CarlF1, recovery mode (as in from the grub menu) is just booting to a root prompt
[01:35] <whnp> hey anyone got a good resource for making the bcm43xx driver work on breezy?
[01:35] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone know anything about Enemy Territory ?
[01:35] <Seveas> whnp, yes, it goes like this: 1) upgrade to dapper 2) done
[01:36] <whnp> seveas I am on dapper
[01:36] <budluva> whnp, let me know, just got fglrx working on my lappy, broadcom drivers are next for me :p
[01:36] <Seveas> whnp, then why do you ask about breezy?
[01:36] <whnp> when I upgraded it broke my ndiswrapper setup
[01:36] <patrick52222> where can i get an epson stylus photo r300 drivers for ubuntu
[01:36] <whnp> Seveas, opps ... sorry
[01:36] <Seveas> if you blacklist bcm43xx you can use ndiswrapper
[01:36] <nazty> is there a way to reload /etc/ftsab
[01:36] <redguy> TheFaction20: sorry have to go to sleep, kindof late in here...
[01:37] <^Odd^> does the ubuntu live cd allow you to install the i686 kernel from the cd?
[01:37] <TheFaction20> redguy:ok thanks for trying
[01:37] <CarlF1> polpak: thanks
[01:37] <Frogzoo> nazty: reboot
[01:37] <nazty> Frogzoo: besides rebooting
[01:37] <HOEHAVER> ok this really isnt a ubuntu question but it will have to do with it in the end bc im going to have a deul booter and if and one know what room to go to to answer my question that would be great
[01:37] <whnp> Seveas, just did a fresh install of flight5 since my interfaces file was borked beyond repair
[01:37] <Frogzoo> nazty: mount -a
[01:37] <HOEHAVER> lol sorry i didnt know it would that long
[01:37] <HOEHAVER> but yeah heres a link if you can help http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626035
[01:37] <redguy> nazty: unmount /media/200gig && mount -a
[01:38] <whnp> Seveas, I am still getting the ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready error
[01:38] <patrick52222> where can i get epson stylus photo r300 drivers for ubuntu
[01:38] <whnp> I don't know where to take the debuging from there
[01:38] <TheFaction20> can anyone help me getting my western digital external drive to stay active?
[01:38] <Frogzoo> whnp: probly google on that error string
[01:38] <^Odd^> so is it possible to install i686 as the kernel from the ubuntu install cd instead of the i386 kernel?
[01:38] <budluva> Seveas, so broadcom drivers work in dapper?
[01:40] <sredna|konversat> how do i get sound in mpeg files in ubuntu (dapper)?
[01:40] <polpak> !tell sredna|konversat  about restricted
[01:40] <Name141> Any idea where I can get (what is equivlent to) drivers, for: NIC: Microsoft PCI Adaptor MN-130 , Printer: Dell Photo Printer 540 , Modem:  56K PCI Voice Modem SF-1156IV R9A
[01:41] <Pretto> hi guys
[01:41] <whnp> Frogzoo, been there
[01:41] <Pretto> i think that someone here could help me installing gaim2.0 beta
[01:41] <whnp> and in the ubuntu forums
[01:41] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone play ET here ?
[01:41] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat join Ubuntu+1 they will help with dapper
[01:41] <Pretto> i got a .deb packcage from a website.. i installed it, but i have problems about ssl to make it work with msn account
[01:42] <TheFaction20> Can anyone help me in keeping my western digital external drive recognized?
[01:42] <Pretto> anyone could help me?
[01:42] <sredna|konversat> polpak: well, following those instructions does not work
[01:42] <sredna|konversat> i installed gstreamer-plugins-ugly, acode-mpeg, restarted arts and the video player, no luck
[01:42] <sredna|konversat> then i tried the older gstreamer version, no luck either
[01:43] <polpak> sredna|konversat, are you getting any sound to work?
[01:43] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat "  wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[01:43] <patrick52222>   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i38"
[01:43] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I am trying to run a game that says it requires directx, yet also says it's linux compatible... is there such a thing as linux directx ?
[01:43] <sredna|konversat> and all the yelling about restricted formats are nice, but i have to deal with the idiotic real work
[01:43] <patrick52222> sorry for long code
[01:43] <sredna|konversat> polpak: yes, ogg files works fine
[01:43] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: what game?
[01:43] <patrick52222> thats the mpeg codes
[01:43] <vladuz976> can someone help me connect an i pod so i can use it with gtkpod?
[01:43] <sredna|konversat> Klowner: it does not work, no sound in mpeg files/mp3
[01:44] <vladuz976> what filesystem do i use to mount the ipod?
[01:44] <SpecialBuddy> did the repositories change?
[01:44] <amonkey> is there a program that will let me take a window and put it in the tray?
[01:44] <^Odd^> so nobody knows if the ubuntu cd is capable of installing the i686 kernel from the cd at install? as maybe one of the boot options?
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> How to install kdm theme from tarball?  I don't see that option in kcontrol...
[01:44] <polpak> sredna|konversat, you need to follow the instructions on the wiki.. It does work, if you install everything it says
[01:44] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: what are you using to play your files in
[01:44] <rebelguys6> !ipod
[01:44] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:44] <RemyLaptop> Klowner, Enemy Territory
[01:44] <sredna|konversat> polpak: and then do what with that file?
[01:45] <polpak> sredna|konversat, which file?
[01:45] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: download the linux version, it uses opengl, not directx
[01:45] <vladuz976> rebelguys6: that is what i was following
[01:45] <RemyLaptop> Klowner, I have...  when I start the game I can't see anything though...
[01:45] <vladuz976> but it's not being mounted
[01:45] <RemyLaptop> Only hear sound
[01:45] <rebelguys6> vladuz976, oh ok good
[01:45] <sredna|konversat> polpak: i can't see what i left out
[01:45] <SpecialBuddy> are there any examples of how the repositories configuration file should look?
[01:45] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: it's probably switching to a refresh rate that your monitor hates
[01:46] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: what are you using to play your files in
[01:46] <sredna|konversat> who adviced me to get a deb package?
[01:46] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: i use kaffeine
[01:46] <RemyLaptop> Klowner, probably! (I'm using a laptop...) any idea how to fix it ?
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> can some one help me for real
[01:46] <RemyLaptop> seeing as how I can't actually get into the game to change the settings there :-P
[01:46] <Frogzoo> !tell RemyLaptop about res
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> like do you know what room atleast to go in to get the help i need
[01:46] <HOEHAVER> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626035
[01:46] <Klowner> RemyLaptop: if you can launch it in windowed mode or something
[01:46] <RemyLaptop> hm
[01:46] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  i think i did not sure
[01:47] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: what to do with it?
[01:47] <patrick52222> run it in the terminal
[01:47] <vladuz976> has anybody here successfully connected and mounted an ipod and is using it with gtkpod? please let me know what the trick is. i don't know what filesystem so specify to mount it. it isnot mounting automatically
[01:47] <Joetheodd> Is it possible to schedule a task to begin at a certain time, as a certain user?
[01:47] <patrick52222> just paste the code in a termianl and it should install the codes to rum mpegs
[01:47] <Frogzoo> Joetheodd: -> man cron
[01:48] <Klowner> aaaph, crap I gotta run
[01:48] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: run it?
[01:48] <sredna|konversat> ./<ling file name> ?
[01:48] <Amaranth> vladuz976: try rhythmbox or banshee
[01:48] <SpecialBuddy> did they change the repositories because synaptic is saying there is something wrong with the file?
[01:48] <rebelguys6> HOEHAVER, you need to get either MagicISO or Alcohol to burn mdf files
[01:48] <conn> if dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?
[01:48] <polpak> sredna|konversat, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:48] <conn> if dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?
[01:48] <vladuz976> Amaranth: i tried banshee, how do you make banshee show the ipod?
[01:49] <Joetheodd> Frogzoo: Thanks. Is cron running by default in warty?
[01:49] <conn> sorry for the double post :(
[01:49] <HOEHAVER> thanks man for real
[01:49] <HOEHAVER> you have helped alot
[01:49] <rebelguys6> good luck :)
[01:49] <Amaranth> vladuz976: it should have just showed up
[01:49] <vladuz976> Amaranth: it's not
[01:49] <dj-fu> cron does run by default yea
[01:49] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  just paste the commands from here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10939 ina terminal
[01:49] <Amaranth> vladuz976: sorry, i dunno what else to do as i don't have an ipod
[01:49] <BlueHeron> !ati
[01:49] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:49] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: sure, did that
[01:50] <patrick52222> then it should work
[01:50] <sredna|konversat> i still have no sound though
[01:50] <purple^haze> whats a good newsgroups client software ?
[01:50] <sredna|konversat> sigh
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> does anyone know a working distro?
[01:51] <av8> how can i change the looks of ubuntu to look like kde ?
[01:51] <djk_> sredna|konversat: debian, gentoo :)
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> that does not require me to compile everything?
[01:51] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  can you see the movie
[01:51] <dj-fu> ubuntu, sredna|konversat :]
[01:51] <rebelguys6> fedora sredna|konversat
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: sure
[01:51] <rebelguys6> :/
[01:51] <rebelguys6> av8, why not just download kde? :)
[01:51] <av8> from where?
[01:51] <riddlebox> I just did like 37 updates to my pc and now the second user I have on the machine cannot login to gnome, I can log into the failsafe console  but nothin that involves gnome, once I am in on the failsafe console I can call gui apps and they work?
[01:51] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  have you tried to run it in another media player
[01:51] <sredna|konversat> i did try rpm based distros some years ago
[01:52] <purple^haze> whats a good newsgroups client software ?
[01:52] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: amarok can't play mp3 files either
[01:52] <dj-fu> pan
[01:52] <av8> rebelguy i m kinda new to this
[01:52] <dj-fu> amarok is b0rked
[01:52] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: that is about what i have i believe
[01:52] <rebelguys6> !tell av8 about kde
[01:52] <djk_> dj-fu: b0rked?
[01:52] <dj-fu> yep
[01:52] <dj-fu> I couldn't get it to output sound, on dapper anyway
[01:53] <djk_> dj-fu: meaning 'the greatest app ever'? ;)
[01:53] <dj-fu> sif
[01:53] <dj-fu> riddimbox pisses on it
[01:53] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:   have you enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[01:53] <djk_> lol, sure.
[01:53] <ab0rted> using ubuntu makes u look sexy
[01:54] <dj-fu> only if you have xgl & compiz
[01:54] <dj-fu> ;]
[01:54] <ab0rted> lol
[01:54] <Joetheodd> How do I change my console text editor from vi to pico?
[01:54] <fiendskull9> how do i run shell scripts?
[01:54] <dj-fu> Joetheodd, `pico file` instead of `vi file`
[01:54] <dj-fu> fiendskull9, chmod +x script && ./script
[01:54] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: i enabled universe + the corresponding source ones, which is what the wiki page said to do
[01:54] <Joetheodd> dj-fu I need to change it for things like crontab -e
[01:55] <dj-fu> The -e option is used to edit the  current  crontab  using  the  editor
[01:55] <dj-fu>        specified  by  the  VISUAL  or EDITOR environment variables.
[01:55] <dj-fu> man page ftw
[01:55] <sredna|konversat> artsplay can play them
[01:55] <sredna|konversat> interresting
[01:55] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  ok, what are you running KDE or Gnome
[01:56] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: kde
[01:56] <dj-fu> Joetheodd, if neither of $VISUAL or $EDITOR are defined, it uses /usr/bin/editor.
[01:56] <dj-fu> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2006-03-23 01:40 /usr/bin/editor -> /etc/alternatives/editor
[01:56] <dj-fu> which is of course VIM by default
[01:56] <Joetheodd> dj-fu how do I set $EDITOR to /usr/bin/pico?
[01:56] <dj-fu> export EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico
[01:56] <dj-fu> crontab -e
[01:57] <purple^haze> anybody know any good newsgroups client ?
[01:57] <TheFaction20> can someone help me getting my external drive to say active?
[01:57] <fiendskull9> whats the command to remove a folder
[01:57] <dj-fu> or `EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico crontab -e`
[01:57] <rebelguys6> fiendskull9, rmdir
[01:57] <dj-fu> fiendskull9, rm -rf <dir>
[01:57] <ifr> Hi, Y'all compiling question: I am patching a kernel and need to add a patch to the source following steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 I need to add the patch at some point. Is it as simple as unzipping the source linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 then doing patch -p0 < patch.file then make oldconfig and so on?
[01:57] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat:  have you installed the akode-mpeg package for amarok mp3 problem
[01:57] <rebelguys6> rm -rf is dangerous tho fiendskull9
[01:57] <dj-fu> ifr, yes, it's as simple as doing that.
[01:57] <ifr> dj-fu, thanks
[01:57] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: i installed what looked most like that
[01:57] <fiendskull9> rebelguys6, thanks for telling me after i ran the command :D
[01:58] <rebelguys6> :/
[01:58] <dj-fu> ifr, if the .patch file was generated in the the directory that is created when you intar linux-source, of course
[01:58] <sredna|konversat> the name wasn't exact
[01:58] <polpak> rebelguys6, sudo rm -rf is more dangerous =p
[01:58] <rebelguys6> that's true
[01:58] <dj-fu> It's not really dangerous, only if you use it unwisely
[01:58] <IamEthos> hey
[01:58] <zyellowman2> where can i get PS/2 mouse drivers, my mouse has slow response time
[01:58] <dj-fu> like, rm -rf /* instead of rm -rf ./*
[01:58] <ifr> dj-fu when you say generated you mean I copied that file into the same directory as the linux-source?
[01:58] <RemyLaptop> !opengl
[01:58] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <rebelguys6> dj-fu, that's right, rmdir is completely benign though, much safer
[01:58] <polpak> RemyLaptop, what's the question?
[01:58] <dj-fu> ifr, yes, the patch file may have been made on the directory up or down from the untar directory, you may need to try patch -p1, p0 etc.
[01:59] <bryan> ubuntu-es  please
[01:59] <IamEthos> is there anyway for my workspaces to only show icons on the desktop they were created on?
[01:59] <RemyLaptop> hey friendly ubuntuers, would anyone have any great insights into how I can check whether I have opengl drivers installed?
[01:59] <bryan> in  spanish
[01:59] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: sorry i cant help you any more as im use to Gnome and i only know a little about KDE
[01:59] <Joetheodd> Will cron run for root as well?
[01:59] <ifr> I see. Many thanks dj-fu. You say it's relatively painless?
[01:59] <dj-fu> ifr, relatively
[01:59] <polpak> RemyLaptop, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:59] <ifr> :)
[01:59] <ifr> thanks much. Wish me luck...
[01:59] <Joetheodd> dj-fu, Thanks man, vim was really confusing =p
[01:59] <dj-fu> RemyLaptop, `glxinfo`
[01:59] <polpak> RemyLaptop, will tell you if you have 3d accelleration
[01:59] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: mp3 support isn't related to the toolkit of your apps
[01:59] <dj-fu> Joetheodd, hehe :)
[01:59] <zyellowman2> anyone know where i can get PS/2 Mouse drivers?
[01:59] <bryan> habla algien espaol???
[01:59] <IamEthos> anyone?
[01:59] <dj-fu> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:59] <TheFaction20> does anyone have a usb drive working?
[02:00] <dj-fu> TheFaction20, yes
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> polpak it came back: "direct rendering: yes"
[02:00] <zyellowman2> Hablo un poco
[02:00] <dj-fu> iPod works too
[02:00] <IamEthos> also, window managers... what the heck is going on?
[02:00] <bryan> gracias
[02:00] <polpak> RemyLaptop, then you have 3d accellerated drivers
[02:00] <bryan> bye
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> ahk
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> thanks :)
[02:00] <TheFaction20> dj-fu:did you have to do anything special to keep it functioning? because my usb drive will be recognized then seem to disconnect
[02:00] <polpak> RemyLaptop, bust out the warcraft3, and ut2004 =p
[02:00] <IamEthos> what is the default window manager? I see a lot of utilities for window maker... should I use that?
[02:01] <IamEthos> I installed wmaker from synaptic
[02:01] <dj-fu> IamEthos, gdm ships by default with ubuntu
[02:01] <dj-fu> the gnome desktop
[02:01] <IamEthos> not sure if that was intelligent
[02:01] <patrick52222> sredna|Konversat: im getting all my info from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and you have tried it all ant you
[02:01] <dj-fu> TheFaction20, no, works fine
[02:01] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, you might want to try 'dmesg' to see if there are any errors
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> polpak, are they free?
[02:01] <rishi> heloooo
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> :)
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> ET is ;-)
[02:01] <IamEthos> dj-fu: is Window Maker better/worse?
[02:01] <rishi> Can i Use easyubuntu in dapper?
[02:01] <dj-fu> A whole crapload worse
[02:01] <polpak> RemyLaptop, they're free as in I already payed for them... ;p
[02:02] <dj-fu> unless you really like it over GDM
[02:02] <RemyLaptop> actually, I think I have wc3 somewhere, windows version though...
[02:02] <IamEthos> dj-fu: is anything better?
[02:02] <polpak> RemyLaptop, works great with wine
[02:02] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:can u decipher what i get if i put it on pastebin?
[02:02] <IamEthos> I'm not sure what to look for in these things?
[02:02] <RemyLaptop> cool
[02:02] <dj-fu> IamEthos, gnome, kde?
[02:02] <dj-fu> those are the major ones
[02:02] <RemyLaptop> if I get really desperate I'll go find it :)
[02:02] <dj-fu> even xfce4
[02:02] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, yeah go for it
[02:02] <rebelguys6> well maybe :)
[02:03] <IamEthos> how does kde stackup to gnome?
[02:03] <dj-fu> I like Gnome, the localisation support is excellent
[02:03] <rishi> i like gnome
[02:03] <dj-fu> Personal opinion, IamEthos - both do nearly the same thing
[02:03] <rebelguys6> http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+vs+gnome
[02:03] <rishi> haha
[02:03] <IamEthos> isn't Kubuntu just a KDE-default Ubuntu?
[02:03] <sredna|konversat> patrick52222: thanks for your help anyways ;)
[02:03] <IamEthos> or am I confused...
[02:03] <rebelguys6> IamEthos, yes
[02:03] <polpak> IamEthos, yes it is
[02:04] <IamEthos> do I need to install that to use kde?
[02:04] <rishi> Does anyone know if easy ubuntu will work with Dapper?
[02:04] <rebelguys6> IamEthos, no
[02:04] <patrick52222> no problem i hope you get it sorted
[02:04] <rishi> i asked the other channel but no one is answering
[02:04] <niki> hi, i got sound working in almost every game, but not in chromium.....i pasted my chromium config file, can someone look at it and tell me if i need to change something?  its pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10940
[02:04] <rebelguys6> !tell IamEthos about kde
[02:04] <RemyLaptop> is there any way to check the video specs of my laptop ?
[02:04] <rebelguys6> :D
[02:04] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10941
[02:04] <dj-fu> http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=kde&word2=gnome
[02:04] <dj-fu> ;'(
[02:04] <dj-fu> kde wins ;'(
[02:04] <RemyLaptop> something like the "system" window in windows?
[02:04] <patrick52222> but you should trie the #ubuntu+1 channel they might be able to help
[02:04] <IamEthos> can both be installed at the same time?
[02:04] <VRWarper> of course kde wins ;)
[02:04] <IamEthos> and just used seperately?
[02:04] <rebelguys6> yes IamEthos
[02:04] <djk_> dj-fu: the better always wins.
[02:05] <dj-fu> djk_, get stuffed ;P
[02:05] <rebelguys6> yeah you choose which one you want when you login
[02:05] <djk_> dj-fu: even wmii owns gnome ;)
[02:05] <rishi> RemyLaptop: try the device manager under system
[02:05] <IamEthos> aah
[02:05] <jadaz87> hello everyone i had a question about the w32 codecs i was wondering hwo do i install them
[02:05] <dj-fu> more hits on google = more people complaining, and I quote, "omg, kde is so buggy and sucky"
[02:05] <IamEthos> I have Linux installed on a 5gb drive
[02:05] <VRWarper> or more people praising
[02:05] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20,does your drive use an external power adapter?
[02:05] <VRWarper> :]
[02:05] <VRWarper> or more people posting about new features
[02:05] <IamEthos> is adding both to play around with for a bit going to cause problems?
[02:06] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:yes
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> can anyone help me out with getting synaptic to work
[02:06] <VRWarper> sure kde may not be as rock solid as gnome
[02:06] <VRWarper> but then again..
[02:06] <VRWarper> im using xgl and compiz
[02:06] <dj-fu> synaptic works out of the box
[02:06] <dj-fu> ;P
[02:06] <VRWarper> so...
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> no
[02:06] <djk_> VRWarper: most likely. what would there be to post about gnome ;)
[02:06] <dj-fu> *cough* kde-window-decorator
[02:06] <VRWarper> stability isnt exactly on my... top prority list
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> I'm having repositories problems
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> did they change or something?
[02:06] <IamEthos> and will I need to reinstall software (or install new software to work with KDE?)
[02:06] <void^> i have 2 small external power supplies for harddisks, and they're both crap. :)
[02:06] <VRWarper> bah, thats only because the guy at novell uses gnome
[02:06] <VRWarper> >:|
[02:06] <polpak> SpecialBuddy, define "problems"
[02:06] <VRWarper> look at composite
[02:06] <dj-fu> VRWarper, what's because it's better :p
[02:07] <VRWarper> kde has a rock solid composite manager
[02:07] <VRWarper> and what does gnome have?
[02:07] <dj-fu> #ubuntu-offtopic to continue this discussion
[02:07] <SpecialBuddy> well it's not accepting what I have so is there an example somewhere that I can copy
[02:07] <polpak> IamEthos, you don't need to reinstall anything, gnome apps work in kde, and kde apps work in gnome
[02:07] <polpak> !sources
[02:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:07] <dj-fu> !easysource is good
[02:07] <ubotu> ...but easysource is already something else...
[02:07] <dj-fu> ;[
[02:07] <IamEthos> I see
[02:08] <IamEthos> sorry about all of these trivial questions
[02:08] <polpak> IamEthos, I'm more sorry for the trivial answers.. ;p
[02:08] <CSWookie> Does the ubuntu live CD come with Gnucash?
[02:08] <ifr> dj-fu, one more question before I do this: does running  sudo dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.10-custom_10.00.Custom_i386.deb automatically update grub so I can reboot and select the standard or custom kernel - provided I don't remove the original?
[02:08] <IamEthos> I'm considering switching to linux on a more permanent basis
[02:08] <jadaz87> does anyone know how to install the w32 codex so i can play the nonfree codec formats?
[02:08] <BlueHeron> !ati
[02:08] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:08] <IamEthos> and I want to know everything I need to before I make a decision
[02:08] <ifr> IamEthos good on ya
[02:08] <dj-fu> ifr, Not sure - You may want to rerun grub-install
[02:08] <IamEthos> how about Pocket PC support?
[02:08] <dj-fu> dj-fu, and/or manually edit the grub file - I hope it would configure it automagically, though
[02:08] <ifr> thanks, is that just sudo grub-install ?
[02:09] <polpak> IamEthos, I made the switch 6 months ago.. Haven't looked back
[02:09] <IamEthos> does it exist?
[02:09] <dj-fu> ifr, yes
[02:09] <tristil> Anyone tracking Dapper have really diminished sound output?
[02:09] <dj-fu> pocket pc works
[02:09] <jadaz87> dj-fu how do you get Pocket PC to work on ubuntu?
[02:10] <sredna|konversat> not working
[02:10] <dj-fu> well, works on dapper ;[
[02:10] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, well, i don't know for sure
[02:10] <dj-fu> my palm works anyway
[02:10] <rishi> tristil: i don't think i have any problems with sound
[02:11] <SpecialBuddy> Is dapper drake coming out soon
[02:11] <polpak> !dapper
[02:11] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:11] <patrick52222> june
[02:11] <jadaz87> dj-fu whould you be able to tell me how to install the w32 codecs so i can play non free formats on ubuntu?
[02:11] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, it maybe that your drive doesn't have complete linux support
[02:11] <polpak> !tell jadaz87 about restricted
[02:11] <patrick52222> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <MrRio> anyone got a usb headset?
[02:11] <tristil> rishi, It started after last reboot. Well, I'll reboot and see if it's a fluke.
[02:11] <dj-fu> jadaz87, if you read that link that patrick52222 just posted, it details how to do it
[02:11] <tristanmike> MrRio: I got a PS2 usb headset that works fine
[02:11] <XVampireX> Mission Impossible
[02:12] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:lovely.....
[02:12] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, its a SATA drive in an external enclosure... right?
[02:12] <MrRio> tristanmike: know anywhere i can find a list of headsets supported under ubuntu/linux
[02:12] <ifr> Great. dj-fu, Manually, I'll be editing /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if it's in? Anm I looking in the automaiz section?>I guess I mean< how can I be sure that my custom will appear as an option in grub manually before rebooting?
[02:12] <tristanmike> MrRio: i have no idea, it took me a bit to set it up here with teamspeak
[02:13] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:no its a western digital mybook essential ehd
[02:13] <Sergi0> XVampireX, u got any step ahead?
[02:13] <tristanmike> MrRio: what are you trying to use it with ?
[02:13] <XVampireX> Sergi0, nope
[02:13] <ifr> dj-fu sorry: s/automaiz/automagic
[02:13] <BlueHeron> !ati
[02:13] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:13] <dj-fu> ifr, just search down for kernel lines, you should be able to see it, alternatively check your /boot folder for the image names etc and check if they appear in the menu
[02:13] <MrRio> tristanmike: ekiga
[02:13] <XVampireX> I tried everything
[02:13] <ifr> Ahhh.
[02:13] <Leotoothpick> hey anybody can gimme a hand here everytime i open synaptic i get this warning:
[02:13] <Leotoothpick>  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:13] <Leotoothpick> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:13] <ifr> Gotchya. Thanks!
[02:13] <MrRio> tristanmike: aka. GnomeMeeting
[02:14] <XVampireX> I posted on the forums
[02:15] <patrick52222> leotoothpick: iv you post it on here we can see it more clearly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:15] <tristanmike> MrRio: hmm, I had to change my settings to use /dev/dsp1
[02:15] <XVampireX> I posted some more info on the forum
[02:15] <Toma-> patrick52222: flooded off. lawl!
[02:15] <aduckie> lollolol
[02:15] <XVampireX> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151363
[02:15] <RemyLaptop> Guys, I've just installed new drivers for my intel chipset, how do I install them ?
[02:15] <MrRio> tristanmike: i havn't bought a headset yet, was looking for a way to save myself some pain and get the right one
[02:15] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, well, i'm sorry, i don't know for sure
[02:16] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: you just did. :D
[02:16] <XVampireX> :P
[02:16] <rebelguys6> TheFaction20, you may want to try again when dapper comes out :/
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> rofl
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> make that "downloaded"
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:16] <Toma-> ahh ok :)
[02:16] <revolutionary> hey
[02:16] <j2daosh> anyone in here know how to encode a movie file from .ogm to .iso?
[02:17] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: if i were you, id get ndisgtk. its an awesome frontend to ndiswrapper that makes loading/swaping drivers a snap
[02:17] <TheFaction20> rebelguys6:yah too bad thats a couple months away
[02:17] <tristanmike> MrRio: oh, I would think they should pretty much work, it's just a simple mic and speaker in one, mine is for the PS2 and it works
[02:17] <Toma-> j2daosh: iso isnt a video format
[02:17] <Toma-> j2daosh: you want a vcd or dvd?
[02:17] <j2daosh> i want to burn it to a dvd from .ogm
[02:17] <biovore> iso is a filesystem
[02:17] <nickrud> Leotoothpick, welcome back, and try hitting the reload button on synaptic as a first step :)
[02:17] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I've installed it, how do i run it?
[02:17] <revolutionary> anyone know how to grab(capture) the audio of a streaming realplayer file? do i just need to use jack and a recorder like audacity or gnome sound recorder?
[02:18] <RemyLaptop> ls
[02:18] <corvax> xvampirex ypu cant eject the cd?
[02:18] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:18] <RemyLaptop> Toma, what do those commands do ?
[02:18] <corvax> did i read that correctly?
[02:18] <Toma-> j2daosh: youll need a dvdauthoring program like qdvdauthor
[02:18] <XVampireX> corvax: No
[02:18] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: unloads ndiswrapper and starts it up again with the new driver
[02:18] <RemyLaptop> ahk
[02:19] <XVampireX> corvax: Yes you did read it correctly
[02:19] <corvax> why cant you eject it?
[02:19] <XVampireX> I can eject it, just not during the setup
[02:19] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: very good questioning the sudo commands :) something everyone should do
[02:19] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I get: ERROR: Module ndiswrapper doesnot exist in /proc/modules
[02:19] <RemyLaptop> when trying to run the first one :)
[02:19] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I've buggered enough things up with random sudo commands in the past ;)
[02:20] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: ahh. did you use ndiswrapper for the drivers before?
[02:20] <XVampireX> I tried partitioning in every way, tried everything....
[02:20] <RemyLaptop> Toma, I've never installed any drivers...
[02:20] <corvax> i dont know why youd need to eject it
[02:20] <RemyLaptop> it's all running off the ubuntu defaults
[02:20] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: i c
[02:20] <Toma-> might wanna read !ndiswrapper
[02:20] <corvax> but ddid you check the cdroms md5
[02:20] <corvax> ?
[02:20] <RemyLaptop> k
[02:20] <Toma-> ubotu: tell RemyLaptop about ndiswrapper
[02:20] <amorphous_> I have a nightmare to solve - any takers?
[02:21] <kai> Can anyone help me with the installation of the new Nvidia drivers
[02:21] <rishi> !ndiswrapper
[02:21] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:21] <amorphous_> (it could be a really simple nightmare...
[02:21] <Toma-> ahhhh wait RemyLaptop. im an idiot.
[02:21] <tristanmike> !nvidia
[02:21] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:21] <XVampireX> corvax, I didn't
[02:21] <batman> anyone know if its possible to install fluxbox for the desktop environment?
[02:21] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: when you say intel chipset drivers, i assumed u ment wireless card.
[02:21] <kai> ya but the precompiled headers arnt there
[02:21] <corvax> well restart the install
[02:21] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: what are these drivers for exactly? :D
[02:21] <corvax> then  check the integrity of the disk
[02:21] <XVampireX> There was no such option for md5
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> Toma, video
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:22] <Prohibited> Hey, can anyone help me out.  I run a DigiChat server and some script kiddies keep flooding my chat with exploits. I need to ban a few ISP's from DigiChat's port...can anyone recommend a good firewall that will allow me to do this?
[02:22] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: ok. forget all the ndiswrapper stuff.
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> :D
[02:22] <Toma->  :|
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> it's ok
[02:22] <Toma-> hey, its 8:22am here
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> the drivers seem to come with some sort of installation...
[02:22] <RemyLaptop> I'll rofl, practically dawn !
[02:22] <Misnix> batman, fluxbox is in the repositories
[02:22] <amorphous_> Does anybody have the same problem? I have (on every ubuntu installation so far - on numerous different machines... had random (and unreadable) mouse pointers... is this common?
[02:23] <Sergi0> corvax: XvampireX has the ship-it cd, should be fine i guess
[02:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: youll probably need "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" to compile them
[02:23] <lwizardl> hi
[02:23] <batman> Misnix, think i could use the graphical ndiswrapper on gnome then install fluxbux and the wifi work still?
[02:23] <XVampireX> Yeah, should be fine... most likely my CDrom
[02:23] <Sergi0> could be
[02:23] <j2daosh> i got dvdauthor but it wont recognize the .ogm format... what program do i use to encode from .ogm to .mpeg/.avi?
[02:23] <Toma-> j2daosh: mencoder
[02:23] <amorphous_> anyone?
[02:24] <Toma-> j2daosh: have you installed transcode? qdvdauthor should be able to use ogm..
[02:24] <Misnix> batman,  no idea, I use utp cables :-)
[02:24] <corvax> sergio NO
[02:24] <amorphous_> am i the only person in the world that gets messed up mouse pointers????  constantly???
[02:24] <biovore> from ogm to avi?
[02:24] <biovore> why?
[02:24] <j2daosh> no i dont even know what transcode is
[02:24] <batman> Misnix, bleh i'll just attempt it i guess >.< hehe
[02:24] <corvax> ive heard alot of people whove gotten bad ship it cd's
[02:24] <amorphous_> on four/five different machines?
[02:24] <XVampireX> So what am I supposed to do?
[02:24] <amorphous_> please???
[02:24] <biovore> DVD to ogm?
[02:24] <j2daosh> because dvd author dont see .ogm files on my comp
[02:25] <j2daosh> no other way around
[02:25] <j2daosh> ogm to dvd
[02:25] <amorphous_> i've hunted it on google loads... but no joy whatsoever
[02:25] <Toma-> j2daosh: avidemux will change it
[02:25] <Toma-> its a frontend to mencoder
[02:25] <amorphous_> and am getting really pi***d off with not being able to see what I'm pointing at...
[02:25] <corvax> in the install menu
[02:25] <j2daosh> by frontend u mean graphical?
[02:25] <corvax> youll see check integrity of disk
[02:26] <corvax> choose it
[02:26] <XVampireX> I don't see that option
[02:26] <amorphous_> and it's not the best of adverts for visitors checking out my ubuntu box!
[02:26] <XVampireX> Where exactly?
[02:26] <amorphous_> anyone? please?
[02:26] <j2daosh> toma... so if i install transcode dvd author will recognize the .ogm file?
[02:26] <corvax> heh im going to have to brak out a disk to go along
[02:27] <corvax> with yA
[02:27] <XVampireX> brak?
[02:27] <Toma-> amorphous_: how do you mean "messed up"?
[02:27] <Toma-> j2daosh: lets hope so. also get mencoder
[02:27] <biovore> mencoder will do DVD to avi then you can go to mkv or ogm from there
[02:28] <corvax> or
[02:28] <biovore> works well for that
[02:28] <Toma-> j2daosh: i havent used ogm before, but since its a free format, transcode and mencoder should be able to support it
[02:28] <corvax> you can even check it from windows
[02:28] <corvax> too
[02:28] <TheFaction20> im trying to get the usb driver located here ---->http://www2.one-eyed-alien.net/~mdharm/linux-usb/    yet idk how i should go about getting it
[02:28] <Toma-> biovore: hes going from ogm to dvd.
[02:28] <amorphous_> just random graphics - loks like it could be a tyremark... there seems to be no order to it
[02:28] <amorphous_> it's just a square mess, Toma-
[02:28] <biovore> well dvd is mepg1..  the main problems is vob container
[02:28] <Toma-> amorphous_: thats just the mouse pointer?
[02:29] <polpak> wb niki
[02:29] <void^> TheFaction20: that's what the kernel uses
[02:29] <Prohibited> Hey guys, I need to ban a few ISP's (eg. shawcable) from a server a run on, does anyone know any good firewalls that can let me do this? When I was using Windows to host the server, there was a program called "BlackIce", I need a firewall like that...
[02:29] <j2daosh> so how do i do it without trouble then bio
[02:29] <j2daosh> ?
[02:29] <Toma-> biovore: hence the dvdauthor :) without it you have no menu
[02:29] <niki> polpak, thanks...check this out...when i launch chromium from term, sound works...when i launch it from gnome menu, it doesn't...what gives?
[02:29] <TheFaction20> void^:mean the kernel already has that driver?
[02:29] <Toma-> Prohibited: firestarter
[02:29] <task> help!
[02:29] <task> my cursor is gone!
[02:29] <task> :(
[02:30] <polpak> niki, check the launcher that the menu is using, what args (if any) does it pass?
[02:30] <void^> TheFaction20: not only are a few kernel devs listed on that page, it notes "The source code is provided with the standard linux kernel distribution"
[02:30] <XVampireX> corvax: check pm
[02:30] <Toma-> amorphous_: can you plz run "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[02:30] <amorphous_> yeah - only the mouse pointer, Toma-  - and sometimes it's ok in some states (ie eggtimer sometimes... standard arrow poiter other times, but always most states are just a square mess
[02:30] <Prohibited> Toma, how do I start firestarter up by SSH and add ips though?
[02:30] <niki> polpak, i'm new with gnome...how do i check?
[02:30] <task> :(
[02:30] <task> my cursor is gone!
[02:30] <TheFaction20> void^: o cuz im trying to get a mass storage device to work
[02:30] <Toma-> Prohibited: youll need X tunneling, as its a gui...
[02:31] <polpak> niki, right click and add the launcher to the desktop
[02:31] <void^> TheFaction20: try rmmod ehci-hcd, see if it works better (just slow)
[02:31] <Kritical> With a proxy server... is the client computer restricted in any way?
[02:31] <Toma-> Prohibited: i dont actually use it, but its a pretty tight firewall
[02:31] <void^> TheFaction20: (disconnect before rmmod)
[02:31] <polpak> niki, then you can right click it on the desktop and go to properties
[02:31] <j2daosh> is there a graphical one?
[02:31] <Prohibited> I can't use that. (It takes up more resources, and DC + the amount of users  I get.. that will be laggy and crash DC)
[02:31] <Toma-> j2daosh: one of what?
[02:31] <polpak> niki, go to the launcher tab
[02:31] <task> is there a way for bringing back my cursor?! :(
[02:31] <niki> polpak, the command is just the same as i send from term, : chromium
[02:32] <j2daosh> encoder/decoder... i dont know what option im supposed to chose from the transcode thing
[02:32] <Toma-> Prohibited: well you can add iptables settings from command line... the kernel has a builtin firewall called iptables
[02:32] <corvax> press f1
[02:32] <niki> polpak, could it be the permissions?
[02:32] <Toma-> j2daosh: qdvdauthor has it built in
[02:32] <niki> polpak, nevermind...just checked, its not :P
[02:32] <Toma-> !iptables
[02:32] <polpak> hrm... it could be, but in both cases it'd be running as your user
[02:32] <Prohibited> Okay thanks. :-)
[02:32] <TheFaction20> void^:it says its not permitted
[02:32] <amorphous_> Toma-, (EE) MGA: Failed to load module "mga_hal" (module does not exist. 0)
[02:32] <void^> TheFaction20: ... add a sudo before the command
[02:32] <j2daosh> but dvd author dont recognize .ogm files..... thats what i need to change the movie from
[02:33] <Toma-> amorphous_: interesting...
[02:33] <void^> mga_hal is required for 3d accel only, provided with matrox' binary drivers
[02:33] <amorphous_> Toma-, yeah
[02:33] <amorphous_> ?
[02:33] <PuMp> hi everyone
[02:33] <amorphous_> could this be another shipping issue?
[02:33] <TheFaction20> void^:nothing....
[02:33] <polpak> niki, it must be something with your environment variables or some such
[02:34] <PuMp> it's me again
[02:34] <amorphous_> I've installed on a few machines, Toma-
[02:34] <void^> TheFaction20: now connect the device and see what it does.
[02:34] <Toma-> amorphous_: possibly a bad install of the mouse graphic
[02:34] <Toma-> amorphous_: same media?
[02:34] <niki> polpak, any idea what i should read or look at?
[02:34] <amorphous_> Toma-, on 5 separate machines?
[02:34] <polpak> niki, as a workaround you could make a bash script in your ~/bin directory that just runs the chromium command, then point the launcher at that
[02:34] <PuMp> I've installed flight 5, but i have a problem with the screen resolution
[02:34] <niki> polpak, i've never written a script before...
[02:35] <amorphous_> 4 from a hoary shipped disk, but the latest from a d/loaded breezy disk????
[02:35] <Toma-> !find ogmtools
[02:35] <polpak> niki, I'll pastebin it for you
[02:35] <ubotu> ogmtools: (Tools for manipulating Ogg multimedia streams), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:1.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 160 kB, Installed size: 468 kB
[02:35] <amorphous_> Toma-, 4 from a hoary shipped disk, but the latest from a d/loaded breezy disk????
[02:35] <jd_> re. lirc sous dapper, a parle  quelqu'un ?
[02:35] <Toma-> j2daosh: there you go
[02:35] <Toma-> grab that package
[02:35] <niki> polpak, thanks!
[02:35] <Toma-> amorphous_: all different installs?!
[02:35] <XVampireX> Here's another person having the same problems
[02:35] <XVampireX> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initrd-tools/+bug/31627
[02:35] <amorphous_> Toma-, any idea how I load them up? it's not a file i can apt-get :(
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, yes!
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, that's why I'm so stumped with it
[02:36] <lampshade> I recently uninstalled laptop-mode and installed laptop-mode-tools in an attempt at getting better power management, well, in the process I took out my ability to hibernate, etc, does anyone know what package I need to reinstall that laptop-mode took with it so I can get hibernation back?  Is anyone with a laptop here brave enough to apt-get remove laptop-mode but then just cancel it but give me the names of the packages it will also be
[02:36] <lampshade>  removing?
[02:36] <amorphous_> I've upgraded aswell
[02:36] <Toma-> amorphous_: are all these machines equipped with a matrox card?
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, and different machines
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, yes
[02:36] <amorphous_> Toma-, i think they have been
[02:36] <polpak> niki, http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=626127, save that as something like start_chromium.sh
[02:36] <corvax> its eaither a bad cd or a bad cdrom
[02:37] <PuMp> I've just installed flight 5, on the gnome panel i can only select 1280*1024, though i selected other modes on the xorg.conf. Any idea?
[02:37] <Toma-> amorphous_: i dare say there is the achilles heel of the problem...
[02:37] <amorphous_> Toma-, impressive shot!!!!
[02:37] <corvax> we want to find out
[02:37] <JayBachatero> Hello.
[02:37] <Toma-> amorphous_: lets see what google has to say. brb
[02:37] <amorphous_> tom - i felt the rush of success as it came up on my screen...
[02:37] <TheFaction20> void^:nothing
[02:37] <corvax> xvampirex what os are you in right now
[02:37] <XVampireX> Another one: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2005/10/msg00035.html
[02:38] <XVampireX> Live CD ubuntu
[02:38] <JayBachatero> I tried to install Fedora Core 5 and it messed up my GRUB.
[02:38] <corvax> ah
[02:38] <corvax> ok
[02:38] <PuMp> this is ubuntu support
[02:38] <void^> TheFaction20: similar errors in dmesg?
[02:38] <TheFaction20> void^:actually says ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo rmmod ehci-hcd
[02:38] <TheFaction20> ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:38] <JayBachatero> I know it's Ubuntu.
[02:38] <JayBachatero> I want my Ubuntu back.
[02:38] <XVampireX> so what am I supposed to do?!
[02:39] <JayBachatero> I checked everything and all my Ubuntu stuff is there.
[02:39] <Toma-> amorphous_: using pastebin, can you put up a copy of your xorg.conf file?
[02:39] <Toma-> ubotu tell amorphous_ about pastebin
[02:39] <ifr> anyone know where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:39] <PuMp> what problem does amorphous_ have?
[02:39] <ian_> !format
[02:39] <ubotu> ian_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:39] <ian_> !formatting
[02:39] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ian_
[02:40] <polpak> niki, then put it in your bin directory under home and chmod +x the file
[02:40] <ifr> !kernel
[02:40] <lampshade> Any brave souls?
[02:40] <Toma-> PuMp: mouse pointer is garbage. suspect it is the video driver as hes installed on all sorts of different machines but theyve all got matrox's
[02:40] <ifr> Where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:40] <ian_> Anyone able to walk me through formatting my second HD (which has XP on it)?  I want to be rid of XP permanently...
[02:40] <Leotoothpick> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:40] <polpak> niki, then you can change your launcher using the Applications->System Tools->Applications Menu Editor
[02:40] <Leotoothpick> anybody know why i keep getting this warning
[02:40] <Leotoothpick> after i open synaptic
[02:41] <liable> Leotoothpick: run update again
[02:41] <TheFaction20> void^:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10943
[02:41] <Toma-> ian_: do you know what /dev entry it has?
[02:41] <useruser> ian_: do you know the device name
[02:41] <niki> polpak, doing all that now :)
[02:41] <TheFaction20> void^:its what i get under usb when i do dmesg
[02:41] <ifr> Leotoothpick because the listing in /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be checked for typos then run sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <LinuxJones> Anybody know offhand how to get spell checking working in gnome apps by default ?
[02:41] <ian_> Toma- and useruser: You mean like "Maxtor Blah Blah"?
[02:41] <ifr> Going thrice: Where I can get Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:41] <PuMp> I have a problem with the screen resolution and gnome
[02:41] <niki> polpak, didn't work :(
[02:42] <Toma-> ian_: no, like /dev/hdb
[02:42] <PuMp> can anybody please help me?
[02:42] <useruser> ian_: no, like in the output of the command dmesg|grep hd[a-f]
[02:42] <niki> polpak, still no sound
[02:42] <soundmaster80> i have a network question
[02:42] <ifr> PuMp what is the problem?
[02:42] <PuMp> i can only select 1280x1024
[02:42] <polpak> niki, that is most peculiar.. but you say it does work when you run it from a terminal?
[02:42] <liable> !packages
[02:42] <ubotu> [packages]  You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  It also has a nifty file search feature.
[02:42] <PuMp> though i add several modes in the xorg.conf
[02:42] <liable> ifr: ^^
[02:42] <ifr> You want higher or lowes?
[02:42] <Toma-> ubotu tell PuMp about fixres
[02:42] <corvax> vampire  i think its under f1
[02:42] <PuMp> lowe
[02:42] <soundmaster80> i have dual nics on my motherboard, both are enabled with dhcp...can this cause problems browsing the internet?
[02:42] <corvax> when you boot
[02:42] <ian_> Toma- I'm a total n00b.  I do have an icon for it in Place> Computer....I think.
[02:42] <corvax> there are more options
[02:43] <niki> polpak, yeah...i just double checked to make sure, sound still works fine if i run it from term
[02:43] <Toma-> ian_: whats the icon called?
[02:43] <corvax> and one is to check disk
[02:43] <touji> does ne1 know a gif making program?
[02:43] <touji> for linux
[02:43] <polpak> niki, I've never heard of that before
[02:43] <JayBachatero> I tried to install Fedora Core 5 and it messed up my GRUB.  I had Ubuntu 5.10 to start with but now Ubuntu is not on the list.  I tried editing FC5's grub to load Ubuntu but it wont load.  I tried grub-install /dev/hda but didn't fix the partitions.
[02:43] <useruser> touji: doesn't the gimp do it nowadays?
[02:43] <void^> TheFaction20: ok, it seems it's not a problem with the usb driver.. does the device usually work, on windows or other pcs?
[02:43] <ian_> Toma- Floppy1...
[02:43] <PuMp> when it loads it uses 1280x1024 too
[02:43] <Toma-> touji: gimp is a fully featured one...
[02:43] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I think it's gnome-spell
[02:43] <XVampireX> I checked under f1, there was only help index
[02:43] <Toma-> ian_: thats not the windows drive.
[02:43] <ifr> PuMp you need to look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and search for the monitor section; there you will find resolution settings. If it doesn't have lower resolutions you can re-run the xorg config script....one sec
[02:44] <useruser> ian_: load a terminal and type dmesg|grep hd[a-f]  into it and press enter
[02:44] <PuMp> i did that already
[02:44] <corvax> yes
[02:44] <touji> ill look around gimp for a while
[02:44] <TheFaction20> void^:yes it does work fine on windows
[02:44] <PuMp> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:44] <ian_> useruser- Ok, hold on a sec, plz.
[02:44] <corvax> it tells you what to inter
[02:44] <corvax> enter
[02:44] <corvax> ugh ill have to find the command
[02:44] <XVampireX> ok
[02:44] <XVampireX> But how would it help me?
[02:44] <jilocasin> evening all
[02:44] <LinuxJones> nickrud: yeah it's installed but I don't know how to enable it :D
[02:45] <jilocasin> can anyone point me in the correct direction to securely delete files in linux?
[02:45] <void^> TheFaction20: did you actually power off the device before the last test?
[02:45] <XVampireX> I'll try it again and I'll be right back unless it somehow performs a miracle and it starts working
[02:45] <useruser> jilocasin: try shred
[02:45] <XVampireX> brb
[02:45] <ifr> That;s it PuMp
[02:45] <TheFaction20> void^:yes
[02:45] <amorphous_> Toma-, pasted - under amorphous
[02:45] <ifr> It didn't take?
[02:45] <useruser> jilocasin: although the standard response is to vaporize the hard disk drive :)
[02:45] <ian_> useruser- No resonse.  Just an identicle command line opening below it.
[02:45] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I think you need to do it on a per app basis, and while you're at it, how about a plugin for xchat :)
[02:46] <useruser> ian_: hmm, you typed that exactly as I had it?
[02:46] <amorphous_> Toma-, sorry about the delay - I not too good with all this - and my pointer is hardly visible at the mo... :(
[02:46] <useruser> ian_: can you copy and paste the command you typed?
[02:46] <ifr> Sorry about this: dumb question PuMp, are you trying to set the res at Systenm -Admin - Screen resolution/
[02:46] <ian_> useruser- I copied and pasted it directly.
[02:46] <void^> TheFaction20: strange - i'd try with a different kernel version, they've messed around with the usb code a lot recently.. but i can't tell you how to do that on ubuntu
[02:46] <useruser> ian_: ok, that's odd
[02:46] <Toma-> np
[02:46] <lampshade> Hey,  I was trying to tweak out battery stuff on my laptop, so I uninstalled laptop-mode and then installed laptop-mode-tools, however when I did I lost Hibernate, Suspend, etc from the logout menu.  What do I need to install to get them back?
[02:46] <PuMp> yes ifr, but it's the same
[02:46] <touji> okay i cant find something that makes gifs in gimp
[02:46] <PuMp> i can only chose one resolution
[02:46] <jilocasin> useruser shred does not work with journalled filesystems.
[02:46] <PuMp> *choose
[02:46] <ifr> Bummer. Did you look in the xor.conf file for those other resolution values?
[02:46] <useruser> jilocasin: ok
[02:47] <useruser> ian_: try this instead: grep 'hd[a-f] ' /var/log/syslog
[02:47] <liable> touji: of course it makes gifs.. just make it, save it as foo.gif...
[02:47] <LinuxJones> nickrud: I had fedora core 5 installed for 5 minutes before re-installing Ubuntu. It was setup as default in all gnome apps including Gnome-Xchat. It was spectacular, something Ubuntu ought to consider as a default.
[02:47] <Leotoothpick> thanx guys
[02:47] <PuMp> yes
[02:47] <PuMp> want to have a look at my xorg.conf?
[02:47] <TheFaction20> void^:any direction you can point me in to look for an answer?
[02:47] <ifr> Someone more skilled than I do will certainly want a look at the monitor section. You should put it into a pastebin and come back and ask again.
[02:48] <soundmaster80> my apologies for bothering everyone. could someone help me with my question again?
[02:48] <soundmaster80> i have dual nics on my motherboard, both are enabled with dhcp...can this cause problems browsing the internet?
[02:48] <ian_> useruser: Again, no response.  Jsut the same prompt line as before...
[02:48] <ifr> And Now my question again: where can I download Ubuntu kernel sources and patches for kernel 2.6.10 ?
[02:48] <crimsun> ifr: linux-tree-2.6.10
[02:48] <useruser> ian_: ok. you said it was a maxtor?
[02:48] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?
[02:48] <void^> TheFaction20: sorry, no further ideas.
[02:48] <useruser> ian_: try dmesg|grep -i maxtor
[02:48] <liable> soundmaster80: yes, why are both configured? your kernel will be trying to route through both.
[02:48] <soundmaster80> thank you liable
[02:48] <purple^haze> anybody know any good newsgroups client ?
[02:48] <soundmaster80> well, one was up for vmware
[02:48] <crimsun> purple^haze: Pan
[02:48] <nickrud> LinuxJones, amazing. I've only seen it used in evolution & gedit before. Maybe I'll give gnome-xchat another look
[02:49] <purple^haze> crimsun,  thank u
[02:49] <ifr> crimsun that you!!
[02:49] <ifr> THANK YOU I mean
[02:49] <ian_> useruser: I -think-
[02:49] <soundmaster80> that's what dawned on me today...I've been having problems, i just wanted to nail that as the cause
[02:49] <Toma-> amorphous_: problem solved i think.... mga driver doesnt like alpha cursors, and the ubuntu default is alpha... lets get a new cursor theme to test... hang tight
[02:49] <useruser> ian_: alright, another strategy
[02:49] <ian_> useruser: Samsame.
[02:49] <useruser> ian_: ls /proc/ide
[02:49] <liable> soundmaster80: check the output of 'route' if you see to UG then thats your problem
[02:49] <PuMp> now that i see the gnome panel again it just let me choose 60hz, and i configured the xorg.conf with higher values
[02:49] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:49] <amorphous_> Toma-, i shall be a model hanger...!
[02:50] <liable> two
[02:50] <LinuxJones> nickrud: it was putting the red line under the misspelled words, right click and select the correct spelling. I have to get this working for xchat if nothing else. My typing skills are so bad :)
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> I need some help installing a KDM theme.  How's that work?
[02:50] <lampshade> soundmaster80, you should be able to see in /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the card you don't want to auto start up
[02:50] <touji> ne1 know where i can get the gimp help files?
[02:50] <ian_> useruser: New response.... "hda  hdb  hdc  hdd  ide0  ide1
[02:50] <ian_> "
[02:50] <Toma-> !info gcursor
[02:50] <ubotu> gcursor: (gnome cursor theme managing software), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.061-ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 152 kB
[02:50] <soundmaster80> yeah, i did that and things are working solid again....it was driving me nuts
[02:50] <useruser> ian_: good. it's going to be one of those :)
[02:50] <Toma-> grab that package amorphous_
[02:50] <_jason> touji: apt-cache search gimp help
[02:50] <soundmaster80> i just wanted someone smarter than me to verify it :-)
[02:50] <purple^haze> crimsun,  is it a gui ?
[02:51] <purple^haze> it is!
[02:51] <lampshade> anyone with a laptop with hibernation?
[02:51] <ian_> useruser <nods>
[02:51] <taotime> hi folks i need help with a non ubuntu problem.
[02:51] <amorphous_> Toma-,  !info gcursor? apt-get it?
[02:51] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:51] <PuMp> how can i do to choose 1024x768?
[02:51] <Toma-> amorphous_: you bet. 'sudo apt-get install gcursor'
[02:51] <PuMp> i hate this resolution
[02:51] <soundmaster80> thank you all for your help, have a great night or day where ever you are :)
[02:51] <useruser> ian_: find /proc/ide/ -name model -exec cat {} ';'
[02:51] <NeighborhoodNer1> touji: apt-get install gimp-help-en
[02:52] <useruser> ian_: oh, wait
[02:52] <Marcin_> Evening. Seeking help with WPA with wpa_supplicant.
[02:52] <amorphous_> Toma-, on it's way... ;)
[02:52] <PuMp> somebody can help me please?
[02:52] <useruser> ian_: find /proc/ide/ -name model -ls -exec cat {} ';'
[02:52] <PuMp> if you want to take a look to my xorg.conf i'll pastebin it
[02:52] <Toma-> PuMp: did you read the fixres i showed you?
[02:52] <taotime> does anybody know how to email to a cell phone?
[02:53] <lampshade> If anyone has a laptop, and would like to apt-get remove laptop-mode, but not actually uninstall it and just tell me what packages it wants to remove, that would be awesome.  I removed them at one time and now I need them back for hibernation support
[02:53] <amorphous_> Toma-, mbox seems to be the only theme avail - i try that?
[02:53] <PuMp> but they are for hoary, aren't they?
[02:53] <useruser> ian_: look for your hard disk model. the device should be the hda/hdb/hdc/hdd bit in the previous line
[02:53] <Toma-> amorphous_: try anything
[02:53] <ian_> useruser Ok, that listed every type of drive I have.  It's either my Maxtor or My Quantum Bigfoot.
[02:53] <nismo> I seem to have a problem with Firefox and amarok, if i have both of these programs running, one of the usually shuts down, this happens once every 10-20 mintues and its quite annoying, any1 have any ideas?
[02:53] <lampshade> Marcin_, I'm using it right now, I might be some help but I'm usually not much
[02:53] <amorphous_> Toma-, i am - trust me!
[02:53] <useruser> ian_: you don't know which one you want to nuke?
[02:54] <Marcin_> lampshade: I'll take any help I can get :) Did you go by this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto or some other source?
[02:54] <ian_> useruser I have no idea which of the two it is that's got XP on it without switching over to XP and checking.
[02:54] <useruser> ian_: heh
[02:54] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:54] <PuMp> Toma- Aren't thoses fixes for hoary?
[02:54] <Toma-> PuMp: nope
[02:54] <PuMp> it says This Howto is intended for those who have installed or upgraded to Hoary,
[02:54] <nismo> ?! :(
[02:54] <nismo> I seem to have a problem with Firefox and amarok, if i have both of these programs running, one of the usually shuts down, this happens once every 10-20 mintues and its quite annoying, any1 have any ideas?
[02:54] <useruser> ian_: ok, type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d]
[02:54] <Toma-> PuMp: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will fix up your problem
[02:54] <ian_> useruser Sorry, just switched to Linux 3 days ago...I could easilly perform this in Windows, but I'm having to relearn in this vastly superior OS. ;)
[02:54] <majd> Hey, this is awkward, i have a link in my menu that runs cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin && sudo ./ZDE     but the terminal pops up for a second and then disapears...then when i copy the command and paste it, it works
[02:54] <PuMp> i have tried that
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: if only one of them has ntfs or other windowsy partitions on it, then that's the one you want
[02:55] <Toma-> PuMp: tried hitting ctl-alt-+ or - on the keypad?
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: nah, that's ok
[02:55] <PuMp> nothing happens
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: note: be careful to get that command exactly right!
[02:55] <useruser> ian_: fdisk is a scarily powerful beast
[02:56] <Toma-> PuMp: how odd. a copy of xorg.conf and 'tail -50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' on pastebin
[02:56] <Toma-> plz!
[02:56] <ian_> useruser I'm copying directly so as to avoid accidents. ;) I believe, based on that last response, it's hdb2
[02:56] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:56] <useruser> ian_: ok, just one partition then? not the whole of /dev/hdb?
[02:56] <ian_> useruser Which reads: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d]
[02:56] <ian_> useruser Eek.  Opps.
[02:56] <Marcin_> lampshade: I guess more speciically, how di dyou find out what your network driver is? Or did you install a new one? And if so...how do I do it? :D
[02:56] <lampshade> Marcin_, somewhere else, but I still might be able to help you.  Some of the biggest pitfalls that I ran into some stuff along the way.  I use WPA with Intel Centrino on my laptop so I followed the guide in the forums, but even with that there was some minor glitches I had to overcome
[02:57] <ian_> useruser It reads: /dev/hdb2              32        1057     8241345    5  Extended
[02:57] <useruser> ian_: what else does it say is on /dev/hdb?
[02:57] <Toma-> useruser: might have been quicker to 'cat /etc/fstab | grep windows' or something :)
[02:57] <Marcin_> lampshade: guide in the forums? Link?
[02:57] <ian_> useruser the others read Linux or Linux DVM.
[02:57] <PuMp> ok, Toma-
[02:57] <useruser> Toma-: yeah, probably :) i don't know my way around ubuntu so well yet
[02:57] <useruser> ian_: ok, you probably want to keep that one then
[02:57] <lampshade> Marcin_, the network driver is whatever yoru card is using, do you have wireles in a non encrypted area even?  The guide was for Intel Centrino, I think but yeah I'll see if I can find it.
[02:58] <Toma-> ian_: can you put a copy of fstab on pastebin?
[02:58] <PuMp> here is my xorg.conf Toma-
[02:58] <PuMp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10945
[02:58] <fortunato> hello
[02:58] <JayBachatero> Can someone giv eme a hand on fixing GRUB?  I tried fixing it from the live cd and nothing.
[02:58] <Marcin_> lampshade: the wpa_supplicant thing only lists like uh, 6 drivers. I have a Belkin card, and Ubuntu just autodetected it. I didn't have to do anything so I'm not sure what the driver is :D
[02:59] <lampshade> Marcin_, this one is what I used.  Got me going very nicely once I stopped making typos and shit
[02:59] <ifr> Okay I asked this before but now I am asking again specifically: KERNEL CONFIG QUESTION:  I downloaded the source tree for the kernel.  I am going to do make oldconfig to get me halfway there. BEFORE I do make oldconfig should I apply the patch by doing p0 < patch-name.patch in the source directory of the kernel I'm compiling?
[02:59] <GTroy> anyone think this is a bad idea?
[02:59] <useruser> ian_: yeah, let's have a looksie at /etc/fstab on pastebin
[02:59] <GTroy> http://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/03/26/how-to-back-up-your-dvds-in-ubuntu/
[02:59] <ian_> useruser Ok, wait.  Two of the 3 listed on that last response have similar ammount of blocks.  Almost identicle.  Both my HD's are almost exactly same size.
[02:59] <useruser> ian_: it's not the number of blocks that are interesting, it's the partition types
[02:59] <fortunato> hm
[02:59] <ian_> useruser XP-drive is not partitioned.
[02:59] <lampshade> Marcin_, what type of card?
[03:00] <Toma-> PuMp: are they your monitors Hsync a Vrefresh?
[03:00] <fortunato> yay
[03:00] <nickrud> LinuxJones, it seems that libsexy is what gives spell checking to xchat-gnome
[03:00] <useruser> ian_: what does df / say?
[03:00] <useruser> ian_: that'll be a partition you want to keep :)
[03:00] <PuMp> yes
[03:00] <ian_> useruser DF?
[03:00] <PuMp> and in the panel it just let me choose 65hz
[03:00] <Toma-> PuMp: having wrong values there can often lead to xorg not letting you change res, simply because it can blow your monitor
[03:00] <LinuxJones> nickrud: I a looking at that right now, it's installed by Dapper by default but into on how to enable it are rather sparse
[03:00] <useruser> ian_: yes, in lowercase (run that command)
[03:00] <fortunato> HEY! does anyone know of a program thats easy to use that can limit bandwidth over a router?
[03:00] <Marcin_> Belkin PCMCIA wireless G
[03:01] <fortunato> ive found one.. but costs. and another i dont understand.
[03:01] <chuckyp> Marcin_, what chipset is it using?
[03:01] <LinuxJones> nickrud: see why I need a spell checker :(
[03:01] <Marcin_> chuckyp: how do I tell?
[03:01] <useruser> or better still, paste the output of df -T somewhere I can take a look like pastebin
[03:01] <nickrud> LinuxJones, I wouldn't be suprised it linking was disabled in the ubuntu build. I'm in breezy at the moment, but you could get the source and look at the debian directory, see what's up
[03:01] <chuckyp> Wasn't there an issue with the broadcomm chipsets something they needed to rem out before they could just ndiswrapper
[03:01] <PuMp> Toma-, before they were both values on 60 and it was the same
[03:01] <ian_> useruser I can paste you the text, but I don't remember the url for pastebin..
[03:02] <useruser> ian_: neither do i , but i'm certain google has a pretty strong opinion on the matter
[03:02] <ian_> useruser ;)
[03:02] <CSWookie> Can someone direct me to a page on making my own ubuntu livecd?
[03:02] <nickrud> LinuxJones, into and info are equal to a spell checker ;P
[03:02] <fortunato> can
[03:02] <fortunato> someone help me find a program that can limit the bandwidth over my router?
[03:03] <chuckyp> Marcin_, I know you need to use the ndiswrapper driver's but you need to stop the default broadcomm module from loading can't remember how right now.
[03:03] <LinuxJones> nickrud: yeah well I'm on strong medication for a few more days ;(
[03:03] <PuMp> Toma- should i put smaller values?
[03:03] <Toma-> PuMp: try setting Hsync to 30-70 an Vrefresh to 50-160 then remove all the modes under the 24bit Depth section to have only "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:03] <ian_> useruser Ok, gimme a sec, opening pastebin now...
[03:03] <fortunato> the other computer (windows) is using all bandwidth
[03:03] <useruser> ian_: ok
[03:03] <Toma-> PuMp: thats going from the offical spec sheet of your monitor
[03:03] <PuMp> ok
[03:04] <chuckyp> fortunato, What do you want to do now?
[03:04] <fortunato> stupid gnutella clients left on.. i keep getting kicked off and having to use dhclient all too often.
[03:04] <wafei> hello
[03:04] <PuMp> i remove all the dephts, and i just leave 24?
[03:04] <Toma-> PuMp: if that doesnt fix anything, a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log will be required
[03:04] <useruser> fortunato: wikipedia suggests this: http://www.mastershaper.org/tiki-index.php
[03:04] <fortunato> ok
[03:04] <fortunato> thanks
[03:04] <XVampireX> yo
[03:04] <PuMp> ok, i did that
[03:04] <lampshade> Marcin_, if your wireless works out of the box on unencrypted stuff, I would just do a dmesg | grep -i wireless and see if you can see which driver nabs it
[03:04] <XVampireX> I did the integrity check
[03:05] <Toma-> PuMp: NO. leave all the other depth sections, just change the selectable options under the 24bit section
[03:05] <PuMp> should i reboot or just with CTRL+ALT+BSPACE its ok?
[03:05] <XVampireX> It indeed is defective
[03:05] <ian_> useruser http://pastebin.com/626166
[03:05] <useruser> ian_: ok, got it
[03:05] <jepler> How does Ubuntu do with nforce chipset systems?  I'm shopping for a socket 939 system, and the majority of them seem to be nforce.  Here's one example: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA21473
[03:05] <Toma-> PuMp: ctl-alt-bkspce
[03:05] <PuMp> ok
[03:05] <PuMp> i'll be right back
[03:05] <lampshade> mine says ipw2200 and that's what I use then with ipw in the command to get WPA working
[03:05] <XVampireX> All I can do now is get a cdr working, lol
[03:05] <useruser> ian_: ok, it's /dev/hda
[03:05] <useruser> ian_: it's got the ntfs partition on it
[03:06] <useruser> ian_: and as you say, there's just one partition on that drive
[03:06] <PuMp> same thing Toma- :S
[03:06] <ian_> useruser If you say so. ;)  You know better than I!