[07:47] <lapion> tgm4883, the repository is allright again
[07:48] <lapion> Jay2k1, repository is fixed again.
[07:50] <Jay2k1> Cool


[06:04] <nhaines> Gareth: pong
[06:08] <Gareth> nhaines: hey.
[06:10] <nhaines> Gareth: heya
[06:11] <nhaines> Gareth: what's up? :)
[06:12] <Gareth> nhaines: just wanted to confirm that we talked about an Ubuntu booth?
[06:13] <nhaines> Gareth: I can confirm that we didn't.  :)
[06:13] <Gareth> ah ha.
[06:13] <Gareth> I would assume that even though we didnt talk about it that you intested in having said booth?
[06:13] <nhaines> Gareth: yup, we should totally do that.
[06:14] <Gareth> okay good.
[06:15] <nhaines> Great. Also we like corner booths better than middle ones. But that might be planning too far ahead. :P
[06:16] <Gareth> everyone likes corner booths...just depends on the briefcases that show up anonymously on the doorstep.
[06:17] <nhaines> haha
[06:19] <nhaines> Gareth: I'll just await the Ubucon discount code for registration then!
[06:22] <bkerensa> Gareth: Next year maybe I will come down for Scale :P
[17:54] <nhaines> YokoZar: you appear to be at the Ubuntu Developer Summit.
[18:03] <nhaines> SCaLE registration just opened: https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x
[18:47] <erichammond> Gareth: Can we get another SCALE promo code for Ubuntu California?  Last year it was UBUCA for 50% off.
[21:02] <BotenAnna> http://i.imgur.com/XU4hf.jpg
[21:23] <BotenAnna> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z0ycfDu52tI/TrRWsHdyF3I/AAAAAAAAIOE/UYwczseGv4I/h301/323459_hedgehog_after_a_bath.jpg
[21:24] <BotenAnna> just going to keep posting cute things until there is discussion! :)
[21:26]  * akk doesn't generally click on random links that arrive with no explanation ... have heard other channel members say similar things
[21:30]  * MarkDude likes the links BotenAnna
[21:30] <MarkDude> Daleks ftw
[21:38] <MarkDude> So last night I met with some friends to practice for an upcoming flashmob. Good news, I think I can learn the dance moves. Downside, there will be some videos made of this- so I DOUBT I will ever be able to live it down.
[21:42] <akk> Poor MarkDude, I know how shy you are about stuff like that. :)
[21:42] <MarkDude> lol
[21:42] <akk> A dancing flash mob sounds pretty fun! Especially if you get to practice beforehand.
[21:42] <MarkDude> Well
[21:42]  * MarkDude is actually a rather shy person
[21:43] <MarkDude> BUT, I like meeting people MORE than being shy
[21:43] <MarkDude> So I force myself to be outgoing
[21:43] <MarkDude> People think I am completely outgoing, so I guess I do a good job of forcing myself to do so
[21:44] <MarkDude> Im tellin' ya, some of the moves are ALMOST the whole *jazz hands thing*
[21:45] <MarkDude> Pure comedy gold.  :)  But not everyone wants to see every type of link.
[21:46]  * MarkDude is part of a few OT channels, that I WONT click links
[21:47] <MarkDude> akk, we should have video next month
[21:47] <akk> I'm not worried about links here being some horrible goatse thing, it's just that if I clicked on every link that ever showed up in IRC I'd go dangerously over my daily limit of cat pictures. :)
[21:48] <BotenAnna> can there be a limit???
[21:48] <BotenAnna> here's a cat picture https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NEKKq1nBu9E/TrDCLfKtlbI/AAAAAAAAfIw/iMY_4ndkjTE/s720/DSCN1854.JPG
[21:48] <akk> And most people are doing other stuff, so if it's just some unlabeled link, it's not clear if it's worth stopping to click, whereas if it's labeled "adorable baby pangolins!" they might decide it's worth it.
[21:54] <MarkDude> Well we dont have a bot announce what links are
[21:54] <MarkDude> Oregon for example has a bot that says what links actually are
[21:54] <akk> I'm not sure that would work for raw jpg links, though.
[21:55] <akk> Unless it was a really really smart bot. :)
[21:55]  * akk is working on an exercise in image recognition for this week's ML class homework, but even once it's working it won't be that smart
[22:44] <BotenAnna> there are bots on synirc that do things like say the title of youtube videos and such
[22:44] <ryaxnb> so i heard foie gras is illegal now in CA
[22:44] <ryaxnb> who wants to bet foie gras sales increase in Vegas?
[22:45] <ryaxnb> "drive to vegas, play the slots, eat foie gras"
[22:45] <ryaxnb> why not?
[22:46] <ryaxnb> another thing NV allows that CA does not, just after gambling, prostitution, etc.
[22:46] <ryaxnb> and formerly divorces...
[22:46] <ryaxnb> foie gras fits in perfectly with Vegas the land of excess.
[22:54] <seidos> hi everybody
[22:55] <ryaxnb> hi seidos i was saying
[22:56] <ryaxnb> so i heard foie gras is illegal now in CA who wants to bet foie gras sales increase in Vegas?
[22:59] <seidos> that's interesting, i wonder if that mat made of faux grass a friend of mine sold is worth more now
[22:59] <ryaxnb> :/
[23:00] <seidos> ah foie gras != faux grass
[23:00] <ryaxnb> foie gras, duck meat
[23:00] <ryaxnb> it has an animal right thing
[23:00] <seidos> sacre bleu
[23:00] <ryaxnb> foie gras is specially fattened duck
[23:00] <ryaxnb> it's tasty
[23:01] <seidos> especially fattened duck liver?
[23:01] <ryaxnb> animal rights issues.
[23:01] <ryaxnb> :(
[23:01] <seidos> yeah, couldn't be good for people animals to eat that
[23:01] <ryaxnb> just get it in NV.
[23:01] <seidos> i mean, especially in large quantities
[23:01] <ryaxnb> no , it tastes good
[23:01] <ryaxnb> and no one eats it  in large quantities - it's gourmet food
[23:02] <ryaxnb> you'll be seeing it at the Wynn in 3.2.1..
[23:02] <seidos> not sure how something like that would get metabolized by the liver
[23:02] <ryaxnb> dude, i eat beef liver all the time.
[23:02] <seidos> i wouldn't eat it if i could avoid it
[23:02] <seidos> how's your health buddy?
[23:02] <ryaxnb> fine
[23:02] <ryaxnb> beef liver is metabolized like any other fodo
[23:02] <seidos> how do you measure that?
[23:03] <seidos> i could be healthier
[23:03] <ryaxnb> look, the liver part isn't the problem
[23:03] <ryaxnb> liver is still legal; even duck liver
[23:03] <seidos> my mile is pretty atrocious
[23:03] <ryaxnb> it's specially fattened duck liver.
[23:03] <ryaxnb> the problem is the way they raise the ducks
[23:03] <seidos> relatively speaking
[23:04] <seidos> poor quackers :(
[23:04]  * ryaxnb would like some foie gras.
[23:04] <ryaxnb> i like ducks and all, but i luck duck meat more.
[23:04]  * seidos is vegetarian
[23:04] <ryaxnb> i like ducks and all, but i like duck meat more.
[23:04] <seidos> luck=health
[23:05] <ryaxnb> liek
[23:05] <ryaxnb> like
[23:05] <ryaxnb> meat is good for your health
[23:05] <ryaxnb> how's you B12 level? are you taking B12 supplements? or do you eat eggs or milk?
[23:05] <seidos> it certainly beats strict nine
[23:05] <ryaxnb> our bodies need B12.
[23:05] <seidos> i'm vegetarian, not vegan
[23:05] <seidos> those vegans are crazy.  i bet they run around with ak-47s
[23:06] <ryaxnb> good.
[23:06] <seidos> probably chew kat
[23:06] <seidos> or marijuana leaves
[23:06] <seidos> creepy stuff
[23:06] <ryaxnb> you need dairy products because of the B12.
[23:07] <seidos> i drink dairy cuz' i heard it's good for rebuilding mucus
[23:07] <seidos> it is probably possible to get b12 from specific plants, but that's too gourmet for me
[23:07] <ryaxnb> no, it's not.
[23:07] <ryaxnb> . According to the UK Vegan Society, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans because B12 analogues can compete with B12 and inhibit metabolism.[56][57]
[23:08] <ryaxnb> you can get it from supplements
[23:08] <seidos> that's interesting
[23:08] <ryaxnb> but basically, you're admitting that veganness is such a restrictive diet you need supplements to survive
[23:08] <ryaxnb> that's bad :(
[23:09] <seidos> i didn't admit anything
[23:09] <seidos> i guess the UK Vegan Society is
[23:09] <ryaxnb> well, the UK Vegan Society is
[23:09] <ryaxnb> for all they espouse about vegan food being healthier, and naturaler, that's the elephant in the room
[23:09] <seidos> i would have to do a test on myself to know for sure
[23:10] <seidos> i wouldn't know what plants to try though...or seeds for that matter
[23:10] <ryaxnb> Claimed sources of B12 that have been shown to be inadequate or unreliable through direct studies[58] of vegans include laver (a seaweed), barley grass
[23:10] <ryaxnb> B12 :/
[23:10] <ryaxnb> of course, dairy provides a lot of b12.
[23:11] <ryaxnb> and well-cooked eggs provided a small but probably sufficent amount of B12.
[23:11] <ryaxnb> so vegetarians shouldn't have issues.
[23:11] <seidos> apparently alcohol leeches b12
[23:11] <seidos> i'm too young to drink
[23:12] <ryaxnb> don't they make vegetarian cheese?
[23:12] <ryaxnb> or do you just eat  cheese?
[23:12] <seidos> i hope so
[23:12] <seidos> i mean, cheese with meat in it?
[23:12] <ryaxnb> (strict vegetarians don't eat normal cheese)
[23:12] <ryaxnb> most cheese is produced with rennet, which is animal... something
[23:12] <seidos> you mean vegans don't eat cheese?
[23:13] <seidos> ah
[23:13] <ryaxnb> no, rennet is a weird intestinal part of the animal usually used in cheesemaking
[23:13] <ryaxnb> only tiny amounts are used, and it's stuff that would go to waste otherwise
[23:13] <seidos> is it used in jello too?
[23:13] <ryaxnb> but strictt vegetarians are strict.
[23:13] <seidos> strict vegetarians can afford to be strict
[23:13] <ryaxnb> so they only eat cheese made with artificial rennet.
[23:13] <ryaxnb> which luckily exists.
[23:14] <seidos> i've never made cheese
[23:14] <seidos> i've made sour milk, but never cheese
[23:14] <seidos> i do have gratitude for the cows though
[23:15] <seidos> i wonder what would happen if cows ate hemp or marijuana
[23:21] <seidos> hey MarkDude are you using fedora?
[23:22] <seidos> i was trying to use chrome with it, but there's apparently a glitch
[23:22] <MarkDude> seidos, yes, m uch of the time
[23:22] <MarkDude> Well F16 should be great to use
[23:22] <MarkDude> 2 weeks after the release
[23:22] <MarkDude> F17 even better, not just because it is codenamed Beefy Miracle
[23:23]  * MarkDude can show you in person at Scale - if you are making it
[23:24] <seidos> yeah, should be there
[23:24] <seidos> 15 is pretty nice, i like the volume control graphic
[23:24] <seidos> it's a lot like my old macbook
[23:25] <seidos> oh yeah, i met that guy David at a sikh ashram, do you remember him?  the dude with the beard?
[23:25] <seidos> hopefully he makes it this year.  he's cool
[23:30] <MarkDude> Yes, I do remmebr
[23:30] <seidos> so what have you been up to?
[23:30] <MarkDude> Well it is good to remind people ahead of time, Scale is earlier this year
[23:30] <seidos> oh yeah?  is it still going to be in february?
[23:31] <seidos> i should put something on my calendar
[23:31] <MarkDude> January
[23:32] <seidos> ah, good to know
[23:33]  * MarkDude has been busy. Put artistic stuff on hold for a while
[23:33] <seidos> how did you manage to pull that off?
[23:33] <seidos> it seems like the artistic stuff is everywhere
[23:33] <MarkDude> Just started making more plans tho... Have a photoshoot for comic book set for next weekend
[23:34] <MarkDude> Zombies and a vampire- ftw
[23:34] <seidos> right on, you win
[23:34] <dragon> MarkDude: I'd be there late. Is that ok?
[23:35] <MarkDude> dragon, yes, unless you need to pick up the backup makeup artisit
[23:35] <MarkDude> we can make other plan if needed
[23:35] <dragon> erm. Who is it?
[23:35] <MarkDude> Pamela, I dont think you met her
[23:35] <MarkDude> She just moved back from Portland
[23:36] <MarkDude> Bring your camera also, we want to try a few effects with it
[23:38] <dragon> I have a phone.
[23:38] <dragon> or two.
[23:38] <dragon> But no camera. I returned it to my family, since I wasn't using it as much.
[23:42] <MarkDude> Hmmm, ok
[23:42] <MarkDude> Will see about getting another for this
[23:42] <MarkDude> My backup plan camera may be in use that weekend
[23:42] <dragon> My camera does well though. You've seen the pics we took at the tech, right?
[23:43] <MarkDude> Yes, well lets see if we can get some effects from it
[23:43] <MarkDude> Maybe use it for old timey looking pics
[23:44] <MarkDude> brb
[23:44] <dragon> alrighty.
[23:50] <MarkDude> back
[23:51] <MarkDude> People are craaaaaaazy in Walnut Creek sometimes
[23:51] <MarkDude> well much of the time
[23:53] <BotenAnna> http://i.imgur.com/GWmlg.jpg
[23:53] <BotenAnna> http://i.imgur.com/Sx4gu.jpg
[23:53] <BotenAnna> more cute pictures!
[23:54] <MarkDude> Yay cat pics
[23:54] <MarkDude> at least 1/3 of the internets consist of kitty pics
[23:55] <MarkDude> Anyone feel like living on the edge and submitting a talk for Scale with me?
[23:56] <MarkDude> A focus on how people should focus on commonalities between Distros
[23:56] <MarkDude> and not find ways to divide. FOSS folks share many common ideals type thing
[23:59] <seidos> that's a good idea
[23:59] <seidos> i'm not really sure what i would say on the topic though


[00:00] <jono> thanks wgrant
[00:00] <jono> what is the best way to check the output of 'membership' to see if the person is a member or not?
[00:03] <wgrant> jono: It's a list of team_membership objects that are either ubuntumembers or subteams of ubuntumembers.
[00:03] <wgrant> They're a member if that list has any items.
[00:03] <jono> right, but if I search using a username that doesn't exist I get a KeyError
[00:04] <wgrant> Right, lp.people['something'] will raise a KeyError if the person doesn't exist. You can use any person object (probably the one you got from getByEmail earlier) in place of lp.people['somebody']
[00:07] <jono> this also seems to work:
[00:07] <jono> try:
[00:07] <jono>         subteams = [team.name for team in lp.people['ubuntumembers'].sub_teams]
[00:07] <jono>         [membership for membership in lp.people[user].memberships_details  if membership.team_link.rsplit('~', 1)[-1] in ['ubuntumembers'] + subteams]
[00:07] <jono>         print membership
[00:07] <jono>     except KeyError:
[00:07] <jono>         print "not found"
[00:07] <jono> sorry for the paste
[00:08] <wgrant> Right, that would work too.
[00:08] <jono> thanks for the help wgrant
[00:08] <jono> I really appreciate it
[00:08] <wgrant> np
[00:13] <jono> I think there is a bug in the code wgrant
[00:13] <jono> oh hang on
[00:14] <jono> yeah, there is a problem
[00:14] <jono>         subteams = [team.name for team in lp.people['ubuntu-core-dev'].sub_teams]
[00:14] <jono>         [membership for membership in lp.people[user].memberships_details  if membership.team_link.rsplit('~', 1)[-1] in ['ubuntu-core-dev'] + subteams]
[00:14] <jono> also returns me as a member...I am definitely not a core-dev :-)
[00:16] <jono> ahh it looks like subteams is not returning anything
[00:25] <wgrant> jono: core-dev doesn't have any subteams, does it?
[00:26] <jono> wgrant, it doesnt look like it, and I worked around that a little
[00:26] <jono> will pastebin
[00:27] <jono> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/843772/
[00:27] <jono> it still says I am a member
[00:29] <wgrant> jono: http://paste.ubuntu.com/843777/
[00:31] <jono> thanks wgrant
[00:31] <jono> just reading
[06:11] <PKHelloNasty> If I want to clone and project, make edits, push to my acocunt whats the commands I need?
[06:16] <wgrant> PKHelloNasty: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/FindingAndDownloading and https://help.launchpad.net/Code/UploadingABranch are probably what you want.
[06:16] <PKHelloNasty> wgrant, thanks.
[06:18] <PKHelloNasty> wgrant, Interesting that GNome-Do is the example they use, its what I am editing. :D
[06:19] <wgrant> Heh
[07:27] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:55] <asa-san> hi! I wonder if anyone could please help me with a launchpadlib login problem?
[09:01] <czajkowski> asa-san: morning
[09:02] <asa-san> czajkowski: morning! so here is my problem
[09:02] <czajkowski> asa-san: whats the problem ?
[09:02] <asa-san> I try to log into launchpad from a python application using login_with('my_app', 'staging')
[09:02] <asa-san> This worked fine for some time, but suddenly stopped working.
[09:02] <asa-san> Seems to be an authorization problem, turning on logs gives me this
[09:02] <asa-san> send: 'GET /1.0/gcc-linaro HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: api.staging.launchpad.net\r\nAuthorization: OAuth realm="OAuth", oauth_nonce="56899489", oauth_timestamp="1329292578", oauth_consumer_key="System-wide%3A%20Ubuntu%20%28asa-laptop%29", oauth_signature_method="PLAINTEXT", oauth_version="1.0", oauth_token="MdzQdNpTgdFntTcJtZZd", oauth_signature="%26qR4gpRp02G4XcVrh4Mk9dnkNs0FcpK7gwPZdfKKvnS1lN4bz5lTvKrzhSSD2ZNDgR6tpZDv5ctbQGB8g"\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r
[09:02] <asa-san> \naccept: application/json\r\nuser-agent: lazr.restfulclient 0.11.1; application="taker"; oauth_consumer="System-wide: Ubuntu (asa-laptop)"\r\n\r\n'
[09:02] <asa-san> reply: 'HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized\r\n'
[09:02] <asa-san> I tried removing ~/.launchpad/* but that did not help.
[09:03] <czajkowski> has this just started to happen today ?
[09:04] <asa-san> well, it worked last week. When I started working yesterday it did not work
[09:04] <asa-san> so friday was the last time it worked...
[09:04] <czajkowski> ok let me ask and see
[09:04] <czajkowski> just  give me a few mins to find out
[09:04] <czajkowski> thanks
[09:04] <asa-san> thanks a lot
[09:06] <czajkowski> np
[09:08] <czajkowski> asa-san: so it seems staging gets reset over the weekend, so the credentials you used last week are not valid,  you also may need to remove the cached credentials.  hope that helps
[09:10] <asa-san> czajkowski: ok, thanks!  but I thought the credentials were stored in ~/.launchpad (by default)
[09:12] <wgrant> asa-san: On desktops they're stored in your desktop keyring.
[09:12] <wgrant> GNOME Keyring or KDE Wallet, usually.
[09:13] <asa-san> wgrant: OK, that might explain things, I will check
[09:30] <benonsoftware> Hello
[09:31] <benonsoftware> How long can I leave a licence as 'I don't know yet' in Launchpad?
[09:33] <czajkowski> benonsoftware: I'm not sure but I can get back to you as I'll be reivewing them later on with the person who normally does it
[09:34] <czajkowski> and I can get back to you if you like
[09:34] <benonsoftware> czajkowski: Yes please, as I am in charge of choosing a licence for a project but I would like to review each licence in detail
[09:36] <czajkowski> benonsoftware: can you drop me a mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I will get back to you by tomorrow at the latest
[09:36] <benonsoftware> What would you like me to mention in the email?
[09:36] <czajkowski> projects and what licience you think it could be
[09:37] <benonsoftware> czajkowski: Ok, thanks for your help
[09:38] <czajkowski> np
[09:38] <czajkowski> sorry I can't be of more help just right now, but just started so need to make sure I give you the right information
[09:40] <benonsoftware> czajkowski: No worries, thanks :p
[10:00] <jml> Is codehosting down?
[10:01] <wgrant> jml: Launchpad is offline for 90 seconds of scheduled maintenance.
[10:01] <jml> 90s!
[10:01] <jml> I can't wait that long.
[10:02] <jml> actually, it's really heart-warming to hear
[10:02] <jml> so much better than 2hrs
[10:02] <wgrant> It's actually 75 seconds now, it seems.
[10:02] <wgrant> We dropped a replica yesterday which speeds things up.
[10:03] <wgrant> With a bit of luck it will be 30s soon :)
[10:03] <czajkowski> thats rather impressive
[10:40] <StevenK> jml: Your comment reminds me of the Simpsons: Moe: "I got it on loan from the US Army. It can flash-fry a buffalo in 40 seconds." Homer: "Awwww, 40 seconds? I want it now!"
[10:41] <jml> yeah :)
[10:41] <czajkowski> heh
[11:32] <asa-san> thanks czajkowski and wgrant for your help, it works again (sorry for delay in feedback)
[11:32] <czajkowski> asa-san: glad it worked
[18:44] <jaypipes> hello, any LP admins around that could assist with a project ID change? thx in advance!
[18:50] <lifeless> jaypipes: hey, whats up?
[18:53] <jaypipes> lifeless: Hi Robert, thx for response. We (and by we I mean people in marketing) changed the name of the project formerly known as FreeCloud to TryStack... and we were hoping to change the http://launchpad.net/freecloud to http://launchpad.net/trystack.
[18:56] <lifeless> jaypipes: you should be able to do that yourself, no ?
[18:57] <lifeless> https://launchpad.net/freecloud/+edit
[18:57] <jaypipes> lifeless: no, does not give me ability to change the ID, only display name and description.
[18:57] <lifeless> ok
[18:57] <lifeless> could you open a ticket please
[18:58] <lifeless> I will do immediately
[18:58] <jaypipes> lifeless: absolutely. link to where to submit ticket? sorry if I've asked this before :(
[19:00] <lifeless> ^topic :)
[19:00] <lifeless> Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[19:01] <jaypipes> lifeless: doh. sorry mate.
[19:02] <jaypipes> lifeless: cheers: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/187966
[19:02] <lifeless> de nda
[19:03] <lifeless> done, with an alias left behind
[19:03] <jaypipes> lifeless: you rock, as always. thx much!
[19:03] <lifeless> no probs
[19:15] <nati2> Hi folks
[19:15] <nati2> Can we have private mailing list on launchpad ?
[19:18] <lifeless> LP supports them yes; you need a commercial subscription
[19:19] <nati2> lifeless: Thanks!
[21:06] <pabelanger> Quick Q: Is there any was to setup DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS per PPA?
[21:58] <jono> hey all
[21:58] <jono> I am trying to branch and keep getting:
[21:58] <jono> ConnectionReset reading response for 'BzrDir.open_2.1', retrying
[21:58] <jono> Permission denied (publickey).
[21:58] <jono> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[21:59] <jono> I imported my public key after I did bzr launchpad-login
[21:59] <jono> any idea how I fix this?
[22:00] <beuno> jono, sounds like a problem with launchpad
[22:01] <jono> hmmm
[22:03] <beuno> jono, actually, I think it's just you
[22:03] <beuno> works fine here
[22:04] <beuno> jono, try: sftp bazaar.launchpad.net
[22:05] <jono> jono@netbook:~$ sftp bazaar.launchpad.net
[22:05] <jono> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:05] <jono> Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[22:05] <jono> looks like my public key isnt working
[22:06] <beuno> yeap
[22:06] <mwhudson> ssh -v bazaar.launchpad.net -- is it offering the key you expect?
[22:06] <mwhudson> e.g. i see
[22:06] <mwhudson> debug1: Offering RSA public key: mwh@localhost
[22:06] <mwhudson> debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 149
[22:06]  * thumper high fives beuno
[22:06] <beuno> o/ thumper
[22:07] <jono> it pasted a lot of output and then says perm denied (public key)
[22:07] <jono> mwhudson, ^
[22:07] <mwhudson> jono: not useful :)
[22:07] <mwhudson> jono: pastebin it
[22:08] <jono> mwhudson, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/845053/
[22:09] <jono> I think I might just need to add my key again
[22:09] <jono> maybe create a new key
[22:12] <jono> mwhudson, any idea?
[22:14] <jono> I am going to create new keys and try that
[22:15] <wgz> have you double checked the permissions on ~/.ssh ?
[22:15] <wgz> that can catch people out.
[22:15] <StevenK> No, that's not the problem
[22:15] <StevenK> Your username on LP is not jono
[22:16] <wgz> that's also true.
[22:16] <jono> StevenK, where does it get jono from?
[22:16] <jono> my email address?
[22:16] <wgz> bzr takes it from what you gave lp-login
[22:16] <jono> I set my bzr launchpad-login to jonobacon
[22:17] <StevenK> jono: ssh uses $USER by default
[22:17] <wgz> but testing with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is what you want
[22:18] <wgz> it would be nice if bzr was more user-friendly than plain ssh for debugging permissions errors, but that's alas not the case
[22:18] <jono> hmmm so what do I need to do?
[22:18] <StevenK> First, confirm that<EMAIL_ADDRESS>works
[22:19] <wgz> you want the "No shells on this server." when sshing to that
[22:19] <StevenK> What I do is edit ~/.ssh/config to add 'Host bazaar.launchpad.net\nUser jonobacon\n'
[22:21] <lifeless> jono: 'ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:21] <jono> it looks like my new key is not in the keyserver yet
[22:21] <jono> so LP won't take it
[22:21] <lifeless> jono: gpg keys have nothing to do with this
[22:21] <mwhudson> wrong kind of key
[22:21] <lifeless> jono: you're going off in all kinds of wrong; slow down and be guided :P
[22:21] <mwhudson> if your key appears in launchpad.net/~/+sshkeys it's good
[22:22] <jono> lifeless, I am getting a little confused here - I create a key using gpg, added it to the keyserver and then I am using https://launchpad.net/~jonobacon/+editpgpkeys to add the key
[22:22] <lifeless> jono: yes you are confused :)
[22:23] <jono> so what do I need to do?
[22:23] <lifeless> jono:  'ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:23] <jono> <-- idiot
[22:23] <lifeless> jono: pastebin the output
[22:23] <mwhudson> jono: understand that gpg keys and ssh keys have nothing to do with each other
[22:23] <jono> permission denied
[22:23] <lifeless> jono: this is not pastebin.
[22:23] <jono> I am doing this on another machine other than my computer
[22:23] <lifeless> jono: pastebin is where you copy the entire output and put it on paste.ubuntu.com
[22:23] <jono> lifeless, it was one line: Permission denied (publickey)
[22:24] <lifeless> jono: thank you
[22:24] <jono> I have no ssh keys set up on this new machine
[22:24] <lifeless> so, you need to do so.
[22:24] <jono> can I use my ssh key from my main computer?
[22:24] <lifeless> you can either copy your ssh private key over
[22:24] <lifeless> or you can make a new one and add it to LP
[22:25] <jono> ok I copied my other key over
[22:25] <lifeless> try again
[22:25] <jono> now I get the no shells message
[22:25] <lifeless> great
[22:25] <lifeless> now
[22:25] <mwhudson> victory
[22:25] <lifeless> try bzr again
[22:25] <jono> success!
[22:26] <jono> so how does gpg fit into this?
[22:26] <jono> I was obviously confusing this
[22:26] <StevenK> It doesn't
[22:26] <StevenK> It is utterly seperate
[22:26] <jono> gotcha
[22:26] <jono> what are gpg keys used for?
[22:26] <jono> out of curiosity
[22:27] <StevenK> In LP's case, signing source packages and archives
[22:27] <jono> gotcha
[22:27] <jono> thanks, folks, for all your help :-)
[22:27] <StevenK> Oh, and the CoC
[22:27] <StevenK> Always forget about that
[22:28] <lifeless> it does not
[22:31] <lifeless> jono: you need a badge for this
[22:38] <jono> :-)
[22:39] <maco> i'm surprised you didn't get the badge for this back when you used a gpg key to sign the coc
[23:25] <sinzui> StevenK, I am back
[23:52] <jono> hey folks
[23:53] <jono> I am getting an SSLError: The read operation timed out error on a script I am using
[23:53] <jono> have you folks seen this error before?
[23:53] <jono> strangely the script works fine on one of my machines, but not the other


[00:05] <jbicha> rocky: the answer is no, but web browsers are special
[00:07] <jbicha> in Chromium, you can click File>Create Application Shortcuts, check Application Menu, and drag the new shortcut from the dash to the launcher
[00:07] <jbicha> that might work
[00:08] <jbicha> or you can just use multiple web browsers or learn to love the Alt + ~
[00:08] <rocky> jbicha, yeah that works for launching it but once i launch that shortcut app it groups the new icon with the running google chrome icon
[08:47] <gogo_> unity 5.2 will land in alpha 2 or after that?
[08:53] <crizzy> https://twitter.com/#!/VUPEN/status/164993177579814912
[09:04] <gogo_> i am getting confused...unity 5.2 will land in alpha 2 or after that?
[11:50] <iceroot> crizzy: any cve about that?
[12:02] <crizzy> iceroot: http://thexploit.com/sec/critical-php-remote-vulnerability-introduced-in-fix-for-php-hashtable-collision-dos/ here's more
[12:05] <iceroot> crizzy: thanks, i applied the patch (which is causing that) two days ago on squeeze where it was backported :(
[12:05] <iceroot> and i think the fix was also fetched on ubuntu
[12:05] <crizzy> there also was a nasty nasty sudo bug
[12:05] <crizzy> with instant rooting
[12:05] <iceroot> %n
[12:06] <crizzy> good thing i have 10.04 at servers, old enough not to have it
[12:06] <crizzy> yes
[12:06] <iceroot> only 12.04 was affected by that
[12:06] <iceroot> and its fixed already
[12:06] <crizzy> good thing
[12:06] <crizzy> other distros might have it around.. 1.8 isn't that new release
[12:06] <iceroot> crizzy: opensuse, fedora and ubuntu 12.04 were affected
[12:07] <iceroot> there was also a local root-exploit with some /proc/foo
[12:07] <iceroot> for every linux 3.x
[12:08] <iceroot> crizzy: as it seems the patch from debian for php5 did not reach ubuntu yet
[12:09] <iceroot> ah great we are using php 5.3.8 and not 5.3.9
[12:09] <crizzy> for once good that security updates are late ;)
[12:09] <iceroot> and debian backported it but it was not needed for there version
[12:10] <iceroot> so ubuntu is not affected by the old or new exploit
[12:38] <astraljava> Hey guys, thought I'd check your flavor out as well, but I have a spare machine that I can install to by CD only. What is the way to do that now while the image is oversized?
[12:39] <astraljava> Err... sorry, I could have sworn I tried joining #kubuntu+1. Or is there a redirect?
[12:39] <astraljava> Ahh yes there is.
[12:40] <astraljava> Well, anyway, talking about kubuntu, do I need to install oneiric, and do-release-upgrade -d ?
[12:40] <Daekdroom> astraljava, the ISO default will now be 750MiB
[12:41] <Daekdroom> That is, no more CD
[12:41] <astraljava> Ok. When has that changed occurred? cdimage still talks about CDs.
[12:42] <Daekdroom> It's supposed to start for 12.04 LTS
[12:43] <Daekdroom> On the other hand, I have yet to find somewhere saying it's official.
[12:43] <astraljava> Daekdroom: Ok. Thanks for the info!
[12:44] <astraljava> I'll go the oneiric route, then.
[12:50] <snadge> would anyone happen to have any ideas off hand.. how to disable pulseaudio for a specific session using lightdm?
[12:50] <snadge> i run xbmc from a custom session.. using a seperate username
[12:50] <snadge> and pulseaudio messes up the audio latency.. so i'd like some way to be able to not run it
[13:05] <BluesKaj> morning folks
[13:20] <airtonix> snadge: i run xbmc too and don't need to disable pulseaudio.
[13:22] <airtonix> but that's because i'm just plain awesome
[13:22] <astraljava> Some people just have it.
[13:24] <airtonix> yes well when someone suggests removing pulseaudio i question their sanity
[13:24] <astraljava> Nooo... I meant the awesomeness. :)
[13:36] <BluesKaj> airtonix,  I used to run my system just fine without pulseaudio with my onboard audio , after installing a m-audio pci card , I needed pulse for webaudio like youtube/flash etc , so it depends on alsa / soundcard combination that determines whether pulse is required or not
[13:42] <BluesKaj> unfortunately there's nothing awesome about pulseaudio , it adds another layer of processing which results in more distrotion and sound quality degradation for those using the analog outputs to their speakers . Fortunately for me the digital pass thru works and the digital conversion/processing takes place on my audio amplifier
[14:51] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 (last day) starting in 8 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:31] <mokoloko> will aliased window borders arrive with this 12.04? I read about it somewhere and now i can't keep staring at em :D DEM JAGGIES
[18:35] <moo-> anyone noticed the font is different?
[18:37] <moo-> why is applets in gnome-panel not skinned?
[19:10] <roothorick> So, if icedtea-plugin doesn't work for me, then what? I can't find any other Java browser plugins in the repository......
[19:27] <micahg> roothorick: what do you mean by "doesn't work"
[19:28] <micahg> that's the only plugin we can ship
[19:31] <FernandoMiguel> evening <3
[19:34] <roothorick> micahg: I filed a bug recently. Keyboard input doesn't reach the applet. Kinda a BFD when you use VNC a lot.
[19:34] <roothorick> gotta reboot...
[19:49] <iceroot> can someone confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/925678
[20:08] <rocky> has anyone come up with a workaround or fix for the no-sound issue that seems to be plaguing many people in precise right now?
[20:15] <iceroot> rocky: bug?
[20:16]  * rocky digs it up
[20:17] <rocky> iceroot, well the issue is discussed in a bunch of forum threads... this is one i just found:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903214
[20:18] <rocky> but i know i saw a couple bug reports too
[20:18] <iceroot> rocky: ok
[20:18] <rocky> fwiw, the "fixes" there don't fix it for me :(
[20:37] <melter> what great timing, i just came here to check if alpha 2 was released :)
[21:22] <h00k> woah, right now is a bad time to dist-upgrade, it wanted to remove just about everything.
[21:22] <h00k> I'll do an upgrade instead.
[21:27] <guntbert> h00k: strange, just ran a dist-upgrade - the process seemed fine - only my graphic system won't start any more (in a VM, that is)
[21:30] <h00k> guntbert: ah. Yeah, mine wanted to bork everything, unity, nautilus, etc, all kinds of libs
[21:30] <h00k> I'll only assume it's in the middle of some packages getting thrown in ;)
[21:32] <guntbert> h00k: yes, immediatley after running the dist-upgrade another dist-upgrade was necessary, so things seem pretty in the flow right now - a little strange *after* alpha2, isn't it?
[21:34]  * h00k srugs
[22:12] <Diyar> How can update 11.10 to 12 alpha 2 ?
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> !upgrade | Diyar
[22:13] <Diyar> Yes
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> !update-manager
[22:13] <Diyar> How
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> Diyar: have you read that?
[22:14] <Diyar> no .. I will read it now .. thanks
[22:14] <FernandoMiguel> yw
[22:17] <Diyar> FernandoMiguel: in both not talk about 11.10 to 12 alpha 2  and in software update not show update/upgrade to 12
[22:18] <Diyar> other way please
[22:18] <FernandoMiguel> $ update-manager -d
[22:18] <Diyar> without download fresh
[22:19] <crizzy> Diyar: sudo update-manager -d
[22:19] <Diyar>  know I wrote this one not show any update /upgrade available
[22:20] <Diyar> I know*
[22:20] <FernandoMiguel> Diyar: make sure you haven't updates set to LTS
[22:20] <FernandoMiguel> !lts
[22:21] <Diyar> wait wait not show is
[22:21] <Diyar> thanks
[22:21] <FernandoMiguel> ?
[22:21] <Diyar> now is show*
[22:22] <Diyar> I mean upgrade is appear now at update manager
[22:22] <Diyar> Thanks guys :-)
[22:23] <swat_> hmmm, precise upgrade wants to remove a lot of packages...
[22:24] <crizzy> bah, 'unresolvable error' :( i wants percise
[22:24] <Diyar> not problem my problem just be faster
[22:31] <FernandoMiguel> swat_: DON'T
[22:35] <zzecool> Hello guy i have precise Alpha 1 installed  and right now my update manager ask me to remove almost the whole system  (unity  , nautilus , gnome shell ... all the libraries..... etc )  and only updates about 5 7 random packages....
[22:36] <zzecool> i know that Alpha 2 is out  but if i continue i will left with no system
[22:36] <zzecool> instead of an updated one
[22:36] <zzecool> any  clues?
[22:36] <swat_> FernandoMiguel: i wasn't going to :)
[22:36] <swat_> zzecool: just run into the same problem
[22:37] <zzecool> omg
[22:37] <FernandoMiguel> swat_: apt-get or aptitude?
[22:37] <zzecool> swat_, strange thing i have a virtual machine with precise on
[22:37] <zzecool> and it doesnt happening there....
[22:38] <zzecool> FernandoMiguel,  it doesn matter   apt-get aptitude    update manage synaptic
[22:38] <zzecool> its the same everywhere
[22:38] <FernandoMiguel> actually it does
[22:38] <FernandoMiguel> since aptitude has some known bugs with multi arch
[22:38] <swat_> FernandoMiguel: apt-get
[22:39] <FernandoMiguel> I did my upgrades 2h ago an all was ok
[22:40] <swat_> hmm
[22:40] <swat_> something has gone wrong now
[22:40] <swat_> :-/
[22:42] <jtaylor> wait a while
[22:42] <jtaylor> some package need to be upgraded at the same time or bad things will happen
[22:42] <jtaylor> probably one of them ahs not reached your mirror yet
[22:46] <hggdh> jtaylor: dependencies on the update of libglib
[22:46] <hggdh> expected, right now
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> that's why I'm on the Main Archive and a local mirror :)
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> hey hey hggdh
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> long time not see
[22:46] <hggdh> yo FernandoMiguel
[22:46] <hggdh> indeed
[22:47] <hggdh> the lesson here is: be careful, be *VERY* careful when using apt-get, synaptic, aptitude on development versions
[22:48] <hggdh> either be selective on what you want to update, or do not update, or use update-manager (which will propose a partial upgrade)
[22:50] <zzecool> swat_:  my friend i think we have to wait  or we gonna end up playing with a brick :)
[22:55] <swat_> aye
[22:56] <zzecool> FernandoMiguel: im also using the Main Archive  but....
[23:00] <hggdh> oh, and add libxb* and evolution-data-server to the mix... the three of them together (libglib2.0, libxb*, and the e-d-s packages will propose to remove half the system right now
[23:00] <iceroot> hggdh: or just read the text in the screen before hitting yes
[23:00] <hggdh> indeed :-)
[23:01] <hggdh> but the lesson is still dist-upgrade with care...
[23:02] <iceroot> maybe something like that in the topic would be a good idea
[23:07] <hggdh> yes, but I do not have op rights here
[23:09] <yofel> uhm, just point them to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859240
[23:10] <yofel> and mention that dist-upgrade does the same thing
[23:10] <FernandoMiguel> swat_: zzecool pro tip from a long time +1 user:
[23:11] <FernandoMiguel> NEVER EVER DO UPDATES on fridays lolol shame we are still a few hours away from that
[23:11] <yofel> oh right, that rule was there too :D
[23:11] <zzecool> hehe
[23:11] <zzecool> :
[23:11] <zzecool> :)
[23:12] <iceroot> for us (german) its a friday update :)
[23:12] <FernandoMiguel> there you go
[23:13] <FernandoMiguel> still 23:12 here
[23:13] <iceroot> FernandoMiguel: then what are you waiting for? its not friday to fire up the dist-upgrade :)
[23:13] <yofel> same for the channel if we talk UTC
[23:13] <iceroot> s/to/so
[23:13] <FernandoMiguel> I would love to use my laptop this weekend
[23:14] <GTRsdk> Is there a bug in some networking thing that prevents ssh and using some ports to connect locally?
[23:15] <GTRsdk> looks like there is an update
[23:17] <FernandoMiguel> no update here
[23:17] <FernandoMiguel> just power down
[23:17] <FernandoMiguel> as I was saying
[23:17] <FernandoMiguel> already spent 4 weekends without a system
[23:17] <FernandoMiguel> this cycle
[23:18] <GTRsdk> times like these make me think that Debian Wheezy is more stable
[23:18] <yofel> well, what do you expect 2 weeks before feature freeze...
[23:19] <zzecool> So i wonder what precise im running right now
[23:20] <zzecool> Alpha 1   ot Alpha + something ;p
[23:20] <iceroot> issue is fixed on german mirrorsy
[23:20] <iceroot> -y
[23:20] <zzecool> o rly?
[23:20] <zzecool> let me try main again
[23:21] <yofel> alpha2 + x**(num_of_broken_pkgs)
[23:21] <iceroot> zzecool: here it is fixed
[23:21] <yofel> something like that
[23:21] <GTRsdk> yofel: well what "features" could be added that are broken? Especially when they are using ports and ssh?
[23:22] <yofel> no idea. a) ssh works fine here b) I'm on KDE
[23:22] <zzecool> iceroot: the main archive is still broken
[23:22] <iceroot> zzecool: ok
[23:22] <yofel> mirror being fixed while main being broken doesn't make sense o.O
[23:23] <GTRsdk> I'm using LXDE on one computer while Fluxbox is in use on the other
[23:23] <iceroot> zzecool: stupid question, used apt-get update first?
[23:23] <zzecool> yes
[23:23] <zzecool> always
[23:23] <GTRsdk> well on both computers I had a lot of updates
[23:23] <iceroot> zzecool: hm, here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  it is fixed (i thought i am using german mirrors)
[23:24] <zzecool> GTRsdk:  be very carefull because my update manager asks me to remove my whole system
[23:24] <GTRsdk> zzecool: I only ran upgrade, not dist-upgrade
[23:24] <zzecool> ok
[23:24] <zzecool> You are lucky ;p
[23:24] <zzecool> i was too
[23:26] <GTRsdk> what really sucks is that I was using them as miners, so one not being able to connect to the other is a major issue
[23:30] <zzecool> iceroot: for me archive.ubuntu.com still ask me a partial update
[23:30] <zzecool> probably i have more packages or different packages than you
[23:31] <iceroot> zzecool: maybe, this is "just" a lubuntu system
[23:31] <zzecool> oh
[23:31] <zzecool> maybe
[23:31] <zzecool> im using ubuntu
[23:32] <GTRsdk> but then there must be a bug in the ubuntu-desktop meta package?
[23:32] <iceroot> but i was facing the same issue here before
[23:32] <zzecool> lubuntu is the lightweight one  right ?
[23:32] <iceroot> zzecool: yes
[23:32] <zzecool> i c
[23:32] <zzecool> one thing is sure
[23:32] <zzecool> many ppl will  experience the smae
[23:32] <zzecool> and cant be unoticed
[23:33] <zzecool> they gonna fix it
[23:33] <zzecool> sooner or later
[23:33] <GTRsdk> well let's hope it gets fixed sooner than later, or better yet, now
[23:33] <zzecool> lol
[23:33] <zzecool> true
[23:34] <zzecool> bad thing is that you cant find here ppl that driving the whole situation to give you a better thought about what is happening
[23:35] <iceroot> the best is
[23:35] <zzecool> its a bit unlike that you gonna find a dev here to help you
[23:35] <iceroot> sleeping and tomorrow everything is fine
[23:35] <zzecool> hhH
[23:35] <zzecool> i remember last year
[23:35] <zzecool> when waiting here to irc
[23:35] <zzecool> with many others
[23:35] <zzecool> for unity to land
[23:35] <zzecool> :)
[23:36] <zzecool> i was so bored
[23:36] <zzecool> that felt for sleep
[23:36] <zzecool> and when woke up tha same ppl were still waiting
[23:36] <zzecool> for the release
[23:36] <zzecool> lol
[23:36] <GTRsdk> this Debian system doesn't have ssh upgrades, so I'm guessing it must be an old version in Ubuntu or something?
[23:37] <GTRsdk> although, I still don't know which one is the culprit. ssh or something else?
[23:37] <zzecool> in my system the culprit must a shitload of pachages and not only one ;p
[23:38] <zzecool> packages*
[23:41] <zzecool> iceroot: why not using ubuntu  ?  Cause of resources  or you just dont like Unity ?
[23:42] <GTRsdk> The sources in the recent versions of Lubuntu are the same, so basically only the installation disc and the packages installed 0 minutes after installation are the only real differences
[23:43] <zzecool> yeah but with compiz + unity you have a ton more packages and libraries as dependencies
[23:44] <iceroot> zzecool: the mainreason is because i wanted to be part of an oss-project. unity/ubuntu have already a lots of good people (mostly from canocial), i was searching for something "new" which is not that big, so its easier for me to understand how everything is working (organisation, testing, developing)
[23:44] <iceroot> zzecool: so i decided to install lubuntu and be part of the lubuntu-team
[23:44] <GTRsdk> zzecool: sure, but those can be installed with "apt-get install unity compiz"
[23:47] <GTRsdk> just like how they can easily be removed
[23:48] <iceroot> i dont see the problem, in the last weeks hdds are very expensive so its a great feature that ubuntu is cleaning the hdd so you dont have to buy a new one for 400% of the costs
[23:50] <GTRsdk> cleaning the hard drive meaning removing critical packages?
[23:50] <iceroot> :) yes
[23:50] <iceroot> it was also removing bugs and security issues
[23:51] <iceroot> and everyone was saying that he dont like unity, it was also removing unity
[23:52] <GTRsdk> well since I use Debian and Ubuntu, consistency is fairly important. Since Unity exists only in Ubuntu, I use LXDE. Though, I am beginning to like Fluxbox.
[23:52] <iceroot> of course only joking. we are using 12.04 which is still an alpha, so things like that are not impossible and normally 12.04 should only be used for testing and to see what ne new ubuntu version will look like
[23:53] <GTRsdk> yeah
[23:53] <GTRsdk> but 12.04 is supposed to sync with Debian Wheezy and be a LTS
[23:54] <iceroot> GTRsdk: debian sid
[23:54] <iceroot> GTRsdk: ubuntu always syning with sid
[23:54] <GTRsdk> Wasn't Sid for non-LTS versions?
[23:55] <iceroot> never heard of that


[05:44] <jac1d> Need some lirc help please.  I have an older commandir that I had working with a much older Mythbuntu release.  I have a fresh 14.04.01 install and I have moved over the various config files.  I can see the button presses correctly when I run irw but I can't seem to get any response when I am running the frontend
[05:44] <jac1d> I noticed in my lircrc file that the program is listed as "mythtv" but the binary is actually mythfrontend
[05:45] <jac1d> do I need to rename anything to get it to work?
[13:04] <g44> hi
[13:06] <g44> is it possible to make mythtv listen on all interfaces or is there at least an easy way to set the ip to the current network interface ip address. i might want to give a mythtv backend machine to a novice user and it should be ready to use out of the box without fiddling with backend/network config
[23:43] <qwebirc66352> Hi all, I'm trying to install mythbuntu 14.04 on a new PC build with an H97M motherboard. The installer isn't able to find my network connection.
[23:45] <qwebirc66352> After installation there's no Eth0 interface, however if I run lspci -v it shows an eth0 controller on the bus and that a kernel module is loaded.