[00:55] <Tabmow> How do I stop the keyboard shortcuts windows from displaying?
[00:56] <unholymachine> eh? you mean the thing that shows up on first boot and promptly disappears for ever?
[00:56] <sadtaco> Um.. I'm getting an "out of memory" error when booting ubuntu 17.04.  This is after a power outage turned it off.
[00:57] <Tabmow> No, when you press the windows key for instance, then the windows pops up showing you what keyboard shortcuts are available to do certain things
[00:57] <Tabmow> Come up when I'm in VMware workstation and I press windows key on a windows VM and is quite annoying :)
[01:00] <sadtaco> And it says "press any key to continue" which does nothing.
[01:03] <Tabmow> unholymachine, found it - dconf write /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/shortcut-overlay false
[01:03] <Tabmow> :)
[01:05] <Crushing> n
[01:08] <sadtaco> I put in another 8GB stick.. what the heck
[01:11] <fl00fykittry> i have an issue, any assistance would be appreciated. bypassing the router i have a totally functional 12.04 ubuntu install (yay) when connecting wirelessly on my home network, which is comcast, i cannot access 99 % of sites (i get security warnings on anything other than google yahoo and facebook basically) i cant ping and i cannot ssh. i also cant curl most sites. anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[01:13] <leftyfb> fl00fykittry: 12.04 is no longer supported. Regardless, your issue sounds like a router problem or network config.
[01:13] <bazhang> April 28th 2017 was end of support fl00fykittry
[01:13] <bazhang> !eolupgrades| fl00fykittry
[01:13] <fl00fykittry> omfg i meant 16.04
[01:14] <sadtaco> I can't alt+ctrl+f1 or f2 or anything, either
[01:14] <fl00fykittry> i cant do anything right today i cant believe i got it working without destryong all the other partitions on my disk
[01:14] <fl00fykittry> i tried, too, for awhile i was getting the GRUB prompt
[01:17] <bazhang> fl00fykittry, time to get a new version
[01:17] <fl00fykittry> no i have 16.04
[01:17] <fl00fykittry> i had a senior moment
[01:18] <bazhang> fl00fykittry, the live usb has the option to save /home
[01:19] <oerheks> curl sites with https needs a trick
[01:20] <oerheks> curl is not build with ssl support on ubuntu
[01:23] <fl00fykittry> i think i need to do something w dns
[01:23] <hggdh> oerheks: curl --tlsv1.2, etc
[01:23] <fl00fykittry> either that or comcast is doing shadt stuff that ubuntu doesnt like wirelessly
[01:23] <fl00fykittry> shady
[01:25] <oerheks> hggdh, oh thanks
[01:26] <sary> sadtaco: are you able to run the memory test from The GRUB menu!
[01:27] <hggdh> oerheks: actually, curl --tlsv1 should work most of the times (or even curl --ssl)
[01:28] <sadtaco> well I don't have a grub menu. It boots straight into ubuntu
[01:31] <sary> Ubuntu does not display the GRUB menu by default. To see GRUB during boot you need to press the right-hand SHIFT key during boot.
[01:31] <sadtaco> Okay
[01:31] <sadtaco> I'll try that in a moment
[01:31] <sadtaco> keep tapping it or hold it?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: EFI machine, it is the escape key that grub looks for . spam the escape key in that case .
[01:35] <sary> sadtaco │ Um.. I'm getting an "out of memory" error when booting
[01:35] <sary>                       ubuntu 17.04.  This is after a power outage turned it off.
[01:36] <sadtaco> Yes
[01:37] <sadtaco> Er how do I run memtest? I'm in the grub command line. I'm googling and not much is coming up
[01:37] <sadtaco> I don't have a menu entry for it
[01:37] <sadtaco> It's like "grub>"
[01:41] <sadtaco> well I pressed "tab" for a list like it said. Didn't see anything like "memtest" in there.  There was  an "all_functional_test". I put that in and it hung then black screened
[01:43] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: EFI machine ? If so then by default memtest is not available .
[01:43] <sadtaco> Yes
[01:44] <sadtaco> Well~ What do I do? Google isn't doing me much good here.
[01:52] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: If you are to the point that you need to test the ram : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2355358 .
[01:54] <sadtaco> I guess I am? I don't know.
[01:55] <sadtaco> So, saying I need a live image
[01:55] <sadtaco> I mean.. I think the memory is fine.
[01:55] <sadtaco> I've tried different sticks, and it boots windows on another SSD fine
[02:02] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: 'Nother thought then is to run a file system check from a liveDVD(USB) .
[02:03] <sadtaco> Can I use the uh..
[02:03] <sadtaco> desktop image file? The installer. Can that run as a live image instead?
[02:03] <sadtaco> 'cause I'm like out of bandwidth for this month ;/
[02:03] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: Installer ? If a desktop installer, Yes .
[02:04] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: Boot the liveDCD ti " try ubuntu " mide . run ->
[02:04] <sadtaco> mkay~
[02:06] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: ' sudo parted -l ' to know the partiton ; then ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 ' where sda1 to be the target from parted for where the root partition is located .
[02:09] <sadtaco> Oh. I tried to boot into recovery kernel from grub
[02:09] <sadtaco> and it says something like
[02:09] <sadtaco> "end of kernel panic ... VFS: unable to mount roto fs on unknown block(0,0)"
[02:12] <sary> boot with the earlier kernel version.
[02:14] <sadtaco> I think I tried. I'll try again.
[02:14] <sadtaco> burning this usb too..
[02:15] <sadtaco> yeah
[02:15] <sadtaco> it gets the error on "loading initial ramdisk"
[02:18] <sary> is this a new installition of ubuntu!
[02:20] <sadtaco> No. Few weeks old
[02:20] <sadtaco> I booted the live image. Well.. on the menu I'm doing "check disk for faults" or whatever
[02:22] <sadtaco> I keep getting in this disk check uh...
[02:22] <sadtaco> NMI watchdog: BUG: CPU stuck for 23s!
[02:24] <wyth> Having an issue with my server and an lvm I've had set up. I was suddenly having issues where it would not boot up, and would go to emergency mode. (I think that my dog had unplugged the power to one of my externals which makes up part of the lvm). I managed to get booted by commenting out the line in my fstab, but now it seems like the external drives are being given the wrong labels, and I'm
[02:24] <wyth> not sure how to fix it. According to the file in /etc/lvm/backup it should consist of sdc1 (3.6TB), sdd1 (465GB), and sdb1(4.5TB). However, when I do pvdisplay it shows sdb1(3.6TB), sdc1(465GB), and lastly unknown device (4.55TB). So I think I can see what the issue is, but I'm not sure exactly how to proceed, as I'm afraid to rewrite the metadata or something and lose all my data. Thanks in
[02:24] <wyth> advance for any advice!
[02:29] <sadtaco> soft lockup it says on there in addition to being stuck.
[02:30] <sadtaco> and I guess this is going to take a while.
[02:30] <sadtaco> oh uh.. if I boot UEFI image is memtest not going to be available?
[02:43] <Scoop7> how to call lynx command from php using curl ?
[02:44] <BarryIsLost> Greetings. Two days ago I applied Ubuntu ubdates (16.04), and now my laptop will not mount my NAS. I get "No route to host" messages from a "sudo mount -a" command that has always worked before. A ping of the NAS address (<IP_ADDRESS>) tells me "Destination Host Unreachable". Another Ubuntu 16.04 laptop on the network can still access the NAS just fine, both by mounted share, and by ping. Any ideas?
[02:46] <Scoop7> BarryIsLost:  $output = shell_exec("lynx -dump -nolist $url"); <---- It worked !!!
[02:46] <Scoop7> dd($output);
[02:46] <sary> sadtaco: at this point you'd be better of re-installing, make sure to backup your data form the live-cd.
[02:46] <BarryIsLost> @Scoop7, why would that help me? That's your question about lynx.
[02:47] <sadtaco> Well im running memtest86 now
[02:50] <wyth> Anyone have any insights on how to sort out sdb1 to sdc1, sdc1 to sdd1, and etc? Trying to fix my LVM?
[02:51] <BarryIsLost> Greetings. Two days ago I applied Ubuntu ubdates (16.04), and now my laptop will not mount my NAS. I get "No route to host" messages from a "sudo mount -a" command that has always worked before. A ping of the NAS address (<IP_ADDRESS>) tells me "Destination Host Unreachable". Another Ubuntu 16.04 laptop on the network can still access the NAS just fine, both by mounted share, and by ping. I also cannot access the NAS control panel th
[02:54] <sary> sadtaco: OK, just so you now if the issue persists, the cause of it might be the kernel-version, GPU driver, power supply, etcetera! am looking at a similar lock-up issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1530405
[02:54] <sadtaco> Huh.
[02:55] <sadtaco> This is in the live image not the ubuntu install
[03:06] <thewillo> anyone do heavy compilation using ubuntu's gcc/g++ packages on ryzen?
[03:17] <sadtaco> Okay 2048mb of memtest86 passed.  I don't need to keep going, do I? Doesn't it assign memory to the beginning of it first?
[03:20] <sadtaco> sary, sure I can reinstall... but I can't have this be a regular thing. this is scary
[03:20] <sadtaco> I need this system to be stable
[03:21] <sadtaco> Anyway, how can I check the filesystem for errors from the live image?
[03:21] <wyth> Am I only seeing messages from some people?
[03:22] <sadtaco> Nope, the channel is unusually quiet tonight
[03:23] <Bashing-om> wyth: No, you see all messages . in your case, no one ops in for dealing with LVM to this time .
[03:23] <wyth> Ah, ok. I was only here once before and I remember a lot of people being really helpful, so then I was wondering if it was just me
[03:24] <wyth> Oh, Bashing-om it was you who I remember before! heh heh
[03:24] <brocktice> Hi all, anyone had problems with ipv6 in very recent 4.4.0 kernels on 16.04?
[03:24] <brocktice> I'm having an issue where my non-privacy address quits working after an indeterminate but short (maybe 5-10 minutes) time after bringing the interface up
[03:24] <brocktice> Before this started it was working fine for over six months
[03:25] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: ' sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sdXY ' .as in sda1 IF that is the target partition .
[03:25] <BarryIsLost> @brocktice, I may be having that issue. Recently applied Ubuntu updates, and now my laptop won't mount a NAS file share on my network. Problem started right after the updates. It could be an IPv6 issue, maybe. I don't know what my problem is yet.
[03:26] <sadtaco> uhhh I'm getting ""NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s" even trying to boot into the live image
[03:26] <sadtaco> the "try unbuntu without installing"
[03:26] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: hmm OK that's something
[03:26] <Bashing-om> wyth: LVM is out of my range of experience .
[03:26] <BarryIsLost> @brocktice, also, if that's your name, we're probably distantly related (says Barry Tice).
[03:27] <brocktice> Hahahaha could be, I know a Barry Tice but pretty sure it's not you ;)
[03:27] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: are you using IPv6 to connect to the NAS?
[03:27] <wyth> Bashing-om: Gotcha. Seems like the sdX is getting assigned to the wrong drives, so by the time it gets to the last one it just leaves it as unknown device
[03:27] <sadtaco> So.. wtf do I do now?
[03:27] <BarryIsLost> Do you know the one who sails a lot of boats? Wisconsin, maybe, near the great lakes? I'm not him.
[03:27] <sadtaco> this is so weird..
[03:27] <brocktice> Yes
[03:27] <brocktice> dang small world
[03:27] <brocktice> That's my father
[03:28] <BarryIsLost> Yeah, I sometimes used to get his Yahoo mail.
[03:28] <brocktice> oh... I think I know your email address ;)
[03:28] <BarryIsLost> I'd forward it. He has the underscore. I don't.
[03:28] <brocktice> Sorry
[03:28] <brocktice> I'm sure I've sent you stuff lol
[03:28] <brocktice> anyway
[03:28] <brocktice> Are you using IPv6 for the NAS?
[03:28] <BarryIsLost> Not intentionally. :-)
[03:28] <brocktice> then probably that's not it
[03:29] <BarryIsLost> My fstab maps the NAS using ipV4.
[03:29] <sadtaco> I guess I need to try the 17.0.4 live image instead?
[03:29] <sadtaco> That's what I installed initially...
[03:29] <sadtaco> but burned a 16.04 instead which keeps doing that "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s"
[03:30] <deww> seems like a hw issue honestly
[03:30] <sadtaco> maybe...
[03:30] <sadtaco> i mean windows boots though on another ssd
[03:31] <sadtaco> But it won't run more than 5 GPUs on windows.
[03:31] <sadtaco> Ugh this is awful.
[03:31] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | sadtaco
[03:33] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: and now it can't connect?
[03:34] <sadtaco> Where does it list what the checksum should be?
[03:34] <sadtaco> For ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:34] <BarryIsLost> Right. I've been connecting to the NAS just fine for months and months. I applied Ubuntu updates two days ago, and now it won't connect. Another unupdated 16.04 box on the network mounts the NAS without issue, and both 16.04 boxes can ping each other. But, I cannot ping the NAS.
[03:34] <sadtaco> nvm i see it
[03:35] <sadtaco> Checksum is correct. 1400884cec8e40a1a876b2678f81494b
[03:35] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: are you using samba?
[03:35] <BarryIsLost> Yes.
[03:35] <brocktice> Hmmm, although if you can't even ping that's pretty strange.
[03:35] <brocktice> Same subnet?
[03:36] <brocktice> The other box can ping the NAS?
[03:36] <brocktice> the other 16.04 box I mean
[03:36] <BarryIsLost> Same subnet, and yes, the other box can ping the NAS. Here's my fstab entries for it, if they're any help:
[03:36] <BarryIsLost> # NAS
[03:36] <BarryIsLost> //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /mnt/FileServer cifs username=guest,uid=1000 0 0
[03:36] <BarryIsLost> //<IP_ADDRESS>/usbdisk1 /mnt/USB cifs username=guest,uid=1000 0 0
[03:36] <sadtaco> So.. there is no workaroudn for this "soft lockup" bug?
[03:37] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: the fstab doesn't really matter if you can't ping
[03:37] <brocktice> Any firewall on the NAS?
[03:38] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: Boot the liveDVD; spam the escape key for the boot options menu and here " check disk for defects" . If that check passes seems like ya got hardware issues :(
[03:38] <sadtaco> Bashing-om, I get that same error in "check disk for defects"...
[03:38] <BarryIsLost> None that I've configured. It's a pretty standard Buffalo NAS.
[03:38] <BarryIsLost> And, now I couldn't connect to it (at least from this box) to reconfigure if there is one.
[03:39] <Bashing-om> sadtaco: Check the disk ( USB) in a different machine ?
[03:40] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: there were some updates recently around the samba v1 security holes
[03:41] <brocktice> I almost wonder if there's fail2ban on the NAS
[03:41] <brocktice> and somehow that locked you out
[03:41] <sadtaco> im going to try burning a ubuntu 17 one first..
[03:41] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: if you could change your IP address to another one on the same subnet and see if you could ping it that would be instructive
[03:41] <brocktice> hang on
[03:41] <brocktice> you should be able to do it without changing
[03:41] <brocktice> Do you know how to configure an interface alias?
[03:43] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: so if you do ifconfig <interface>:0 <IP_ADDRESS> (for example) and then ping -I <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>, that should do the trick
[03:43] <BarryIsLost> @brocktice, no, I don't. But I take instruction well (even if the instruction is "Go read this man page").
[03:43] <brocktice> of course make sure it's not an address already in use
[03:43] <brocktice> so if it's enp1s0 then it's "ifconfig enp1s0:0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24"
[03:43] <sadtaco> "check disk for errors" on 17 instead gives a blinking cursor and seems to do nothing.. lol
[03:43] <sadtaco> but no soft lock error..
[03:43] <brocktice> and then "ping -I <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:44] <brocktice> you'll need sudo for the first command
[03:44] <BarryIsLost> I'm not sure how to determine my interface. How do I tell if it's enp1s0?
[03:44] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: if you do "ifconfig" you should see a list
[03:45] <brocktice> one will have your current IP address of 192.168.1.X next to it
[03:45] <BarryIsLost> My ifconfig has an wlp3s0, so that would be it.
[03:45] <brocktice> oh is it wireless?
[03:45] <BarryIsLost> Yes.
[03:45] <brocktice> Ah ok
[03:45] <brocktice> I've never seen a wlp name before
[03:45] <brocktice> Anyway that's the one
[03:46] <brocktice> so it would be ifconfig wlp3s0:0 etc
[03:46] <BarryIsLost> OK. I've done the ifconfig blah blah, and then ping blah blah listed above, and I still get Destination Host Unreachable.
[03:47] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: how about "ip route get <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[03:47] <BarryIsLost> @brocktice
[03:47] <BarryIsLost> barry@barry-T430:~$ ip route get <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <BarryIsLost> <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlp3s0  src <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <BarryIsLost>     cache
[03:48] <brocktice> well... that looks kosher
[03:48] <brocktice> And this computer is otherwise networking OK?
[03:48] <brocktice> Is the other machine wireless as well?
[03:49] <BarryIsLost> Yes, and yes.
[03:49] <brocktice> And the buffalo router is the nas... man something is really goofy
[03:49] <BarryIsLost> Clearly I can hit IRC on this box, and it surfs the web fine. It also can get to the modem/router's control panels.
[03:49] <brocktice> wait
[03:49] <brocktice> so you can go to the web interface on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:50] <xjkx> During install, I used to pick Erase Disk and Install ubuntu, then set the option for cryptography. So it configured everything automatic, but, now I have other partitions and cant do a full disk installation, so if I pick Advanced Option, in order to do things myself, how would I get it encrypted ? The easy way, preferable automatic like the other
[03:50] <BarryIsLost> It's actually <IP_ADDRESS>, but yes.
[03:50] <brocktice> oh
[03:50] <BarryIsLost> It's an AT&T fiber modem.
[03:50] <brocktice> Oh... not the buffalo
[03:50] <brocktice> I see
[03:50] <sadtaco> Okay.. I changed which GPU was the primary GPU and unplugged some GPUs
[03:50] <brocktice> I guess that's on .2 anyway
[03:50] <sadtaco> and I no longer get the "out of memory" error and it boots into ubuntu
[03:50] <sadtaco> wtf lol
[03:51] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: can you plug into the network with Ethernet?
[03:52] <BarryIsLost> Plugging in...
[03:53] <BarryIsLost> OK. I'm wired...
[03:53] <BarryIsLost> And, that can ping the NAS.
[03:54] <BarryIsLost> And, that mounted the NAS.
[03:55] <brocktice> BarryIsLost: so... that's pretty strange
[03:55] <brocktice> See if you have some kind of fail2ban on the buffalo
[03:55] <brocktice> or other firewall settings
[03:55] <brocktice> your problem is clearly just the connectivity
[03:55] <brocktice> and only between those two devices
[04:00] <sadtaco> Okay...
[04:00] <sadtaco> I had this problem where windows would boot into recovery mode with 6 GPUs plugged in, but 5 was okay
[04:00] <sadtaco> Now I'm getting the same in Ubuntu even though, previously, I could boot and run Ubuntu fine with 6 GPUs plugged in
[04:00] <c|oneman> gpu detox recovery
[04:02] <BarryIsLost> @brocktice, I can't find any indication of firewall settings on the NAS. Here's another fun one: the laptop is dual boot, and when I boot into Win7, it connects to the NAS just fine over Wi-Fi.
[04:02] <BarryIsLost> (Should have mentioned that one earlier, I guess. :-) )
[04:02] <brocktice> hmmmm
[04:03] <brocktice> that is pretty out there
[04:03] <BarryIsLost> The Buffalo NAS also is not configured for Web access or Web service support. So, I'm not even seeing anywhere to configure any firewall settings.
[04:04] <brocktice> iptables -S
[04:04] <brocktice> but if it can connect from Windows that's not it
[04:04] <BarryIsLost> barry@barry-T430:~$ sudo iptables -S
[04:04] <BarryIsLost> -P INPUT ACCEPT
[04:04] <BarryIsLost> -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[04:04] <BarryIsLost> -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[04:04] <brocktice> so, nothing
[04:05] <brocktice> Well, I'm past due for bed, I'll keep thinking about this
[04:06] <brocktice> If you still have that yahoo email I guess I know where to contact you :p
[04:06] <BarryIsLost> As am I, @brocktice. But I appreciate the help.
[04:06] <BarryIsLost> I don't use the yahoo much these days. Try hotmail instead. :-D
[04:06] <brocktice> will do, goodnight! and good luck
[04:06] <BarryIsLost> Thanks for the help!
[04:14] <sadtaco> Anyone have an idea of what I could check as to why I get that "out of memory" error when booting, and those "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s" errors when I try to boot the live image or check the disk?
[04:14] <sadtaco> that is with 6 GPUs, that is.
[04:15] <sadtaco> I could boot with 6 GPUs fine before.  Now I have to disconnect one of them (and I tried different ones, doesn't matter) so that it's 5 or less to boot.
[04:15] <Nilesh_> hi
[04:18] <singer22> anyone here know how to uninstall the antivirus f-prot on ubunut?
[04:25] <thewillo> sadtaco, were any of the GPU's dual-gpu cards?
[04:25] <sadtaco> Nope
[04:25] <thewillo> There is limitations on how many most UEFI/BIOS will initialize
[04:25] <thewillo> You can initialize the rest with kernel mods
[04:26] <sadtaco> Oh?
[04:26] <sadtaco> It's weird because it worked earlier today...
[04:26] <thewillo> theoretically I mean, I'm not sure there is any public ones, but I know people(specifcally research teams) have done it
[04:26] <sadtaco> then it crashed, power outage or something, and stopped working
[04:27] <thewillo> Well, I can't explain why it stopped working if you didn't change anything
[04:29] <sadtaco> Yeah..
[04:37] <fl00fykittry> so i finally got the bright idea of logging into the router where i found that my machine was considered offline and i think was being recognized as localhost and after clicking around a bit fixed it
[04:37] <fl00fykittry> tho i suspect this will return
[04:37] <Majost> Is there a US based mirror for cloud-images.ubuntu.com?
[04:39] <Majost> I am getting a max of about 200K/s and ipv4 and ipv6 seem to go to a box in London which I suspect is killing my download speeds
[05:50] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[05:52] <thewillo> stuff, and things
[05:52] <psychoticwarrior> yea for real
[06:27] <swensson> About to use sftpd, but what's the difference between local & virtual users? :O
[06:29] <_cc> swensson: I think this answers your question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
[06:37] <supremum> I'm having problem watching you tube videos on ubuntu, both with firefox and chrome. The video gets stuck at one frame and no error messages are given. This problem has been since installation. Using Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS.
[06:38] <supremum> ubuntu-unrestricted-addons installed.
[06:40] <swensson> pureftpd or vsftpd? Secure, lightweight, support alot of users & virtual users... What would you choose? Or is there any better option?
[06:41] <hateball> supremum: are these flash videos or html5 videos?
[06:41] <supremum> hateball: I'll check
[06:46] <hateball> supremum: Do videos play for you on any other given site?
[06:47] <supremum> how to check if html?
[06:47] <supremum> i tried aftonbladet.se also doesn't work either
[06:48] <boblamont> I downloaded an exe file to copy over to a Windows computer, and it won't run, it tries to open the Archive Manager. I looked online and all the questions about it are Wine-related. Is there anything I can do to the file to be able to run it in Windows (my Lubuntu computer is connected to the network, the Windows computer is not)
[06:48] <hateball> supremum: https://vid.me uses html5 for their videos
[06:49] <hateball> boblamont: Why are you trying to open a file if you're going to copy it?
[06:50] <EriC^^> some .exe are zip files btw (self extracting)
[06:50] <hateball> boblamont: Simply copy it to a removable device since the other computer is not connected to the network?
[06:50] <hateball> Maybe I am not understanding the issue here
[06:50] <boblamont> I'm trying to open it on the Windows computer. On my Lubuntu computer, I just downloaded it, threw it onto a USB drive and copied it onto the Windows computer. That's where it's showing up as "open with Archive Manager" and it won't just execute (the permissions give execute to everyone)
[06:52] <supremum> yeah html5 problem
[06:52] <EriC^^> boblamont: that's something related to windows and the software, try asking in ##windows or the software's support
[06:52] <supremum> so browser problem
[06:52] <boblamont> I assume it's a Lubuntu/Ubuntu related problem because all the hits for "exe" "Archive Manager" come up as Ubuntu Wine related (and I do have Wine installed)
[06:52] <hateball> supremum: Does the animation play here? http://get.adobe.com/se/flashplayer/about/
[06:53] <EriC^^> boblamont: not really
[06:53] <hateball> supremum: Sometimes if there's an issue with audio, the browser will halt video playback. Do you have working audio?
[06:53] <supremum> yes
[06:54] <EriC^^> boblamont: lubuntu is just downloading data into a file and you're copying it somewhere else, unless the file is corrupted somehow, can you checksum it?
[06:54] <supremum> ill check audio
[06:55] <boblamont> I don't have a checksum for it, no. But I'll ask in Windows land.
[06:56] <laceylaney> boblamont: what is the file that you downloaded ??
[06:56] <boblamont> EaseBCD
[06:56] <supremum> hateball: any site for testing audio that doesn't use video?
[06:56] <boblamont> sorry, EasyBCD
[06:57] <supremum> hateball: yeah sound is broken, testing from audio settings doesn't work
[06:58] <hateball> supremum: Yeah, so that needs to be fixed then
[06:59] <hateball> supremum: Is this a fresh install?
[06:59] <supremum> i'm using virtual box on osx, but maybe that doesn't affect this. I installed ubuntu quite recently on virtual box for windows and then the sound worked.
[06:59] <hateball> supremum: Oh so this is in a VM?
[06:59] <supremum> yes
[06:59] <laceylaney> boblamont: I take it you registered and downloaded the Non-commercial from the official website ??
[07:00] <supremum> but it worked a few months ago when installing ubuntu on virtual box for windows
[07:00] <boblamont> yes
[07:00] <hateball> supremum: Does the VM have an audio device assigned at all?
[07:01] <supremum> hmm, enable audio is checked, but greyed out in virtual box
[07:01] <laceylaney> boblamont: From what I can tell it should just be a regular .exe file and not an archive .exe or anything like that. I would suggest that you maybe try re-downloading the file as the one you have be corrupt.
[07:02] <supremum> hateball: my flight is about to take off. Thanks for the help. Now I know it is a problem with the sound at least.
[07:03] <hateball> supremum: Good luck !
[07:03] <EriC^^> boblamont: try to checksum that sucker, it should have a checksum for important stuff like easybcd
[07:03] <supremum> thanks.
[07:24] <thewillo> hi, is there a way for me to see how much of a disks I/O capacity is being used?
[07:25] <EriC^^> thewillo: sudo apt-get install iotop
[07:25] <thewillo> thanks EriC^^
[07:25] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:25] <thewillo> wish htop did it all
[07:26] <thewillo> needs network monitoring and disk i/o
[07:26] <thewillo> someone who isn't as lazy as me should make that happen
[07:26] <EriC^^> :D
[07:26] <thewillo> Lol, I'm not actually lazy, I just have so much coding to do already
[07:28] <alexxey> conky can do this as well
[07:28] <alexxey> pretty handy
[07:29] <thewillo> oh... conky
[07:29] <thewillo> i forgot about that thing
[07:31] <alexxey> http://i.imgur.com/RsrHHig.png
[07:43] <lifeboy> What does it mean when Zesty log in syslog:  Gs automatically prevented from changing origin on system/package/ubuntu-zesty-main...  for various packages?
[07:45] <lifeboy> Here's a snippet of the log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24955005/
[07:46] <imadper> Hey all. Do you know where I can find the live build configurations for building the offical ubuntu aarch64 image?
[07:47] <thewillo> Ubuntu isn't really a recompile everything yourself distro
[07:48] <thewillo> There is gentoo for that if you wanna stay busy for like a week compiling things
[07:50] <lifeboy> It seems it has something to do with automatic updates, since I can manually update the packages with "apt-get upgrade".  I can't find anything on this "automatically prevented from changing origin" log entry
[07:50] <lifeboy> though
[08:13] <gateway12>  I'm trying to generate the Xorg.conf file on ubuntu server 16.04 over ssh. The error is no screens found. is there a way i can generate this file on a headless server.
[08:39] <ij> I'm familiar with package building for arch — rather straight-forward with the PKGBUILDs. How do I build deb pkgs for deploying to private servers? (I want to make use of uninstallability the pkg. mgr. gives me.)
[08:48] <ij> Links welcome, though I think I just found one that showcases simple package creation.
[08:48] <glitsj16> ij: you can build from source and use 'checkinstall' to create a .deb, instead of doing 'sudo make install' step.
[08:49] <ij> glitsj16, Sounds bloody awesome!
[08:49] <ij> Heck yeah!
[08:49] <glitsj16> ij: you'll need to install 'checkinstall', doesn't come pre-installed, but it's in the official repo's. Yes it's very handy and has good documentation
[08:51] <glitsj16> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[09:17] <eoli4n> hi
[09:17] <eoli4n> how many time takes a kickstart install ?
[09:18] <eoli4n> does anyone use it to install a huge number of client simultaneously?
[09:48] <ramsub07> Hi, I have some unwanted paths to a directory in my $PATH. How do I remove them?
[09:48] <ramsub07> I followed the first solution in google from stack  exchange and it doesn't seem to work for me https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108873/removing-a-directory-from-path
[09:50] <akik> ramsub07: which is the wrong path? did you add it yourself?
[09:50] <ramsub07> I added it using bashrc file
[09:50] <EriC^^> linux
[09:51] <akik> ramsub07: you can then remove it from there
[09:51] <ramsub07> the wrong path is /usr/local/cuda/bin and i want to correct it to /usr/local/cuda-8.0/bin
[09:51] <akik> ramsub07: the default paths are in /etc/environment
[09:52] <ramsub07> i actually share an account on a server with one of my colleagues and  I don't want to mess with paths. so I am trying to create a profile file for my own sake
[10:05] <fuser> Hello. Is it possible to switch to a new motherboard without reinstalling?
[10:05] <thewillo> On ubuntu, yes!
[10:05] <thewillo> Unless you compiled the kernel yourself with only the hardware support for your current pc
[10:06] <thewillo> which you probably didn't
[10:06] <xebra> hi, I have two encrypted partitions (real partitions, no LVM!), and at boot I'm only asked for the password one time. Why? Is it because the password is the same? Is ubuntu set up to try the same password for the next partition, and ask for it only if it doesn't work?
[10:07] <vlt> xebra: Do both partitions get mapped to /dev/mapper/...?
[10:08] <xebra> vlt, I don't have it here, but I guess so. I remember checking with lsblk, and both partitions were listed as "crypt" type
[10:09] <vlt> xebra: That doesn't mean they are "opened".
[10:10] <xebra> vlt, but the partitions are for root and home, so they must have been opened when I checked, since I was logged in
[10:10] <xebra> I'll go and get it, let's see if I can investigate further, brb
[10:17] <thewillo> how do I uninstall a package without removing everything that depends on it?
[10:18] <vlt> thewillo: You don't.
[10:18] <thewillo> vlt: I need to, to fix something I broke
[10:18] <thewillo> I messed up compiling binutils now I can't compile anything till i uninstall and reinstall it
[10:19] <vlt> thewillo: Sounds like you want to reinstall everything that depends on it afterwards.
[10:19] <oerheks> How do you remove it without removing the dependencies? sudo dpkg -r --force-all <package name>
[10:19] <xebra> vlt, just tried fdisk -l, I have both partitions listed as /dev/mapper/sda_...
[10:21] <vlt> xebra: What does /etc/crypttab look like?
[10:21] <coamtik> hi
[10:21] <thewillo> I fixed it with removing the binary i installed, and using update-alternative --install to reconfigure the old one
[10:23] <thewillo> I mean, I have a backup of the root partition i made with dd, I can restore it, but that takes longer than fixing it
[10:25] <thewillo> also, sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends works apparently
[10:27] <xebra> vlt, sdaX_crypt UUID=... none luks,discard  ...two lines, one for each partition. I have to say that I'm actually on Xubuntu, so maybe this behavior is something they have changed in the login manager or something. Can't find confirmation online though
[10:27] <xebra> I might try changing the password for one partition, and see if it is then asked two times
[10:28] <flaneur> hello
[10:28] <flaneur> i have a problem with recording audio in lubuntu 16.04
[10:29] <flaneur> it does not record anything via mic, this seems to be a general issue
[10:29] <flaneur> i tried arecord test.wav
[10:29] <flaneur> and the file is just silence. I also tried to reset alsamixer
[10:31] <flaneur> i also tried pavucontrol
[10:36] <Tadassssss> hey #ubuntu, really newb here, trying to launch my first ubuntu server and I think it is a good way to access it remotely with vnc. However, I am using DigitalOcean vps and I am getting a strange error on the very last step http://paste.ubuntu.com/24955689/ could anybody check?
[10:36] <Ben64> Tadassssss: you should use ssh
[10:36] <Ben64> vnc is not secure and there's really no point in using a server graphically
[10:37] <Tadassssss> Ben64, but I want to run bots on this vps and graphically seeing what they are doing would be very beneficial for me
[10:37] <Tadassssss> and easy to access files too
[10:37] <Tadassssss> it is very difficult with all these commands as this is the first time I'm on ubuntu
[10:38] <Ben64> well that's the best way to do it, time to learn
[10:38] <Tadassssss> Ben64, so you do not recommend a vnc? what would be another way of accessing and editing files?
[10:38] <Ben64> ssh
[10:47] <[worksti]> i would care to start a shell script on my ubuntu lts 16, but all i have is access to the file system. is there a place i could copy a shell script where ubuntu will execute it as soon as possible ?
[10:47] <[worksti]> i know i could make a cronjob that runs every 60 seconds but i thought maybe something like that already exists
[10:48] <thewillo> you can place it anywhere you have permission to create files, and then use "chmod a+x <filename>" to make it executable
[10:48] <[worksti]> thewillo: yes, but how do i cause it to be executed ?
[10:49] <[worksti]> like i said, all i have access to is the file system, not a shell
[10:49] <[worksti]> (i do in general have access to a shell, but im trying to set up a maintenance job, and that job will not have access to a shell)
[10:52] <qswz> what's the best way to sync with google drive?
[10:53] <Tadassssss> can anybody help me with the vncserver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24955689/ I'm stuck here for hours.. no information on the web
[10:53] <thewillo> you execute a file by typing it's path, if not starting at root, you prefix the path with a ./ so if the file is in the folder I'm in, and it's called runme.sh I do './runme.sh'
[10:54] <qswz> its
[10:55] <Tadassssss> guys, maybe I can access my ubuntu ssh via filezilla? Because I have no idea how do I transfer files and run them
[10:56] <Scoop7> how to make lynx output text with utf-8 characters ?
[10:56] <Tadassssss> damn you guys must be earning fortune, I haven't faced a more difficult thing than setting up an ubuntu server in my life yet
[10:57] <hateball> qswz: https://github.com/Grive/grive
[10:57] <Scoop7> Tadassssss : Can you rephrase your problem ? You want to upload file to your remote linux server ?
[10:57] <Scoop7> files*
[10:58] <Scoop7> ssh and ftp(filezilla) are different things;)
[10:58] <Tadassssss> Scoop7, yes, I want to access it remotely if possible, been doing this tutorial https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-14-04 and I'm stuck on the last step where I have to connect to VNC. This is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24955689/
[10:58] <Tadassssss> I just want to run python scripts :(((((
[10:59] <Tadassssss> and not having my computer 24/7 every day
[10:59] <hateball> qswz: if you use KDE Plasma there is also kio_gdrive but it's not packaged in 17.04
[11:02] <Tadassssss> ok, whatever I give up on the vnc thing it's too difficult
[11:02] <Tadassssss> so accessing files via ssh
[11:02] <Tadassssss> I just go to the folder
[11:02] <Tadassssss> or I have to do the nano thing?
[11:02] <Tadassssss> nano filename?
[11:03] <Tadassssss> because I want to edit python files somehow
[11:03] <Tadassssss> what's the best way to do that?
[11:05] <vlt> Tadassssss: Can you rephrase your problem? So far there are just too many things involved in your description.
[11:05] <vlt> vnc, ssh, nano, python?
[11:05] <vlt> Tadassssss: What is it you want to achieve?
[11:06] <Tadassssss> vlt, I was trying to access to my server remotely with vnc server, but got error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24955689/ and just cannot access it, now people here said that I should not access my server via vnc, so I'm asking what would be the best way to upload/edit/delete files from server?
[11:06] <vlt> !xy
[11:06] <vlt> Tadassssss: That sounds like a clssic XY problem.
[11:07] <Tadassssss> yes, I know, sorry, total n00b in ubuntu, did not think it will be so difficult
[11:07] <vlt> Tadassssss: Do you really want to access to a VNC session on your server? What is it that you're trying to solve here?
[11:07] <vlt> Tadassssss: WHAT will be so difficult?
[11:08] <Tadassssss> I would like to, because I want to test a few apps on it
[11:08] <Tadassssss> and graphic user interface would be the best way to do it
[11:08] <Tadassssss> the ubuntu itself
[11:08] <Tadassssss> all the commands
[11:08] <Tadassssss> whatever, I will figure it out myself
[11:08] <Tadassssss> thanks
[11:08] <vlt> lol
[11:08] <Scoop7> trying all the commands will result in OS failure...
[11:09] <akik> Tadassssss: the ssh tunneling works like this: ssh -L 1234:hostB:22 username@hostA (that opens a local port 1234 in your client machine that you can use later to access hostB at port 22)
[11:09] <[worksti]> thewillo: sorry, i had to step away. i cant execute a file like that because all i have is access to the file system, not a shell
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:10] <[worksti]> i was hoping that maybe there was some sort of folder where when you put something executable in it linux would gobble it up and run it on its own
[11:10] <gugaua> worst security hole ever
[11:11] <faekjarz> Hi, my Ricoh SP 150 doesn't print anymore - not even a test page; hints, suggestions?
[11:11] <vlt> [worksti]: If you know what you're doing (security wise) you can trigger that with inotify or cron.
[11:11] <[worksti]> i dont see how, presumably if i have root access to the file system, i can already do that if i had nefarious reasons
[11:11] <Scoop7> Tadassssss: you should probably just create a .ssh/config with host  username and port  and a reference to a file where your private key pair is located, the public key pair should be located on the other device and I also recommend you passphrase the session. Good luck. !
[11:11] <[worksti]> i could just overwrite a random init script if i cared to
[11:12] <Scoop7> so about my lynx problem? Is it true that it doesn't support utf-8 chars ???? Anyone knows how to resolve this none sense ?
[11:13] <vlt> [worksti]: /etc/rc.local?
[11:13] <akik> Scoop7: if you want a better lynx experience, you could try elinks. i don't know about lynx's utf support
[11:14] <[worksti]> vlt: i want it executed asap, not on the next boot
[11:15] <Ben64> ssh in and run it man
[11:15] <Ben64> you're making this sooo much more difficult than it needs to be
[11:15] <Scoop7> akik: does elinks has the ability to dump out all the plain text of a page ?
[11:16] <vlt> [worksti]: inotify
[11:16] <[worksti]> Ben64: im not sure how to ssh in without shell access. i get that this is super easy with a shell. which i dont have.
[11:17] <[worksti]> vlt: ill read up on that, thanks
[11:17] <Ben64> so get shell access
[11:17] <vlt> [worksti]: If you have root access to the file system you should get shell access.
[11:18] <Scoop7> akik: with elinks I GET SSL ERROR! does it or does it not support https pages ??
[11:20] <akik> Scoop7: yes it can dump formatted papge
[11:20] <akik> Scoop7: yes it supports ssl/tls
[11:21] <Scoop7> but why then I get a ssl error when trying to fetch a https page ?
[11:21] <akik> Scoop7: to save a page, press esc, followed by enter on the file menu, then select "save formatted document"
[11:21] <akik> Scoop7: it probably warns about a certificate problem
[11:21] <akik> Scoop7: tell me which page so i can test
[11:22] <Scoop7> chrome,firefox.opera.safari, edge, ie are ok with that page's ssl
[11:28] <Scoop7> if anyone is interested  w3m >  lynx and elinks
[11:34] <qswz> hateball: ah, thanks
[11:57] <dystant> hi can anyone help me remove unwanted locales
[11:57] <dystant> I followed this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/477974/how-to-remove-unnecessary-locales#477981
[11:57] <dystant> but I still see wrong locales when I do locale -a
[12:11] <michael_mbp> hey all jushur
[12:12] <michael_mbp> anyone here familir with CMake to compile dependencies?
[12:13] <michael_mbp> I was able to compile a dependency in its own folder (by modifying the sub CMakeLists.txt file.  However, when attempting to build the entire project, it errors out with no log in, just the same cryptic "Error generating <path>/foo.cu.o" file
[12:13] <michael_mbp> and that's the file that I had to some changes to the dependency's CMakeLists.txt to get it to compile.
[12:19] <de-facto> michael_mbp, /JOIN #cmake
[12:27] <coamtik> hi
[12:27] <coamtik> how do i change my saturation,colors in linux?
[12:28] <thewillo> throw your shoe at the screen, that should fix it
[12:29] <thewillo> stand back though, saturation can be deadly
[12:29] <Mathisen> coamtik, ask arch as you using arch
[12:29] <coamtik> I use ubuntu. arch in vm.
[12:29] <vlt> coamtik: You can use an image editor like gimp or imagemagick.
[12:29] <coamtik> also it's a linux question and has nothing to do with arch.
[12:30] <coamtik> vlt: screen output lol
[12:30] <guest> coamtik: What desktop environment are you using?
[12:30] <coamtik> unity
[12:30] <guest> coamtik: honestly why not just adjust your monitor... lol
[12:30] <coamtik> on laptop no saturation,contrast, so ruled out. only brightness.
[12:30] <guest> Try System Settings -> Color
[12:30] <coamtik> ?? does linux provide drivers?
[12:31] <guest> yes
[12:31] <thewillo> Yes, they are included in the kernel
[12:31] <thewillo> well, most of them
[12:31] <guest> you might want to ask a more specific question in a channel full of engineers and autists
[12:31] <coamtik> yes but how
[12:31] <guest> what do you want a driver for?
[12:31] <guest> for your printer?
[12:32] <coamtik> saturation of monitor
[12:32] <guest> what laptop is it?
[12:32] <coamtik> contrast.
[12:32] <guest> you could check in Additional Drivers tool
[12:32] <guest> If there's nothing there, you already have whatever drivers are needed
[12:32] <coamtik> intel core i5. lenovo.
[12:32] <guest> However, do check System Settings -> Color first
[12:33] <coamtik> which is the additional drivers tool
[12:33] <coamtik> I did check in color
[12:33] <coamtik> oh sorry hp
[12:33] <coamtik> hp pavillion notebook, it has add profile option
[12:34] <coamtik> still can't change
[12:34] <coamtik> sorry how
[12:34] <guest> try xgamma command
[12:34] <coamtik> no not that
[12:35] <coamtik> is there a program...
[12:35] <guest> sudo xgamma -gamma 1
[12:35] <guest> that will set gamma to 1 (which it is already)
[12:35] <guest> sudo xgamma -gamma 1.5
[12:36] <guest> that will increase it
[12:36] <guest> sudo xgamma -gamma 0.5
[12:36] <guest> that will decrease it
[12:36] <guest> You get the picture
[12:36] <coamtik> no not that, is there a software tat has a bar. for contrast,saturation,etc.
[12:37] <coamtik> that would be easy.
[12:37] <coamtik> and flexible
[12:37] <guest> no
[12:38] <guest> did you try that command?
[12:38] <coamtik> there is none?
[12:38] <coamtik> I don't like it.
[12:38] <guest> well. sorry.
[12:38] <coamtik> color? some one said that. and then skipped it
[12:38] <coamtik> windows has one.
[12:38] <guest> cool
[12:38] <coamtik> i gave up windows long ago.
[12:39] <guest> seriously try that command, experiment with different values
[12:39] <coamtik> what did you mean color ?
[12:39] <coamtik> in settings, it doesn't do shit
[12:39] <guest> I don't have a Unity machine right now to validate the exact steps, sorry
[12:40] <coamtik> I don't like command line.
[12:40] <guest> It won't bite
[12:40] <guest> you're essentially typing on a command line right now :P
[12:40] <coamtik> I am a simple user. who prefers simplicity. no those are sentences.
[12:40] <guest> This is the solution.
[12:41] <guest> Will you try it?
[12:41] <guest> it is not going to blow up your computer
[12:41] <guest> it will ask for your password as it needs elevated privileges to change that gamma setting
[12:41] <coamtik> ehh. ok. but increasing saturation, is a precise ratio. so can't figure out that. rgb values increase in a ratio,that is fixed.
[12:42] <coamtik> in some unique combination.
[12:42] <guest> if you need to, you can control the r/g/b gamma values separately
[12:42] <guest> however, first try simply using -gamma flag to change all the same amount
[12:42] <coamtik> I know
[12:42] <guest> why am I using this nick
[12:43] <coamtik> got pains of linux.
[12:43] <coamtik> god
[12:43] <coamtik> god. oh god. bash, and what not to learn.
[12:44] <coamtik> pains it hurts me. programming in particular. like bash.
[12:44] <rory> nobody is asking you to do any programming
[12:44] <coamtik> bash *is* programming.
[12:44] <rory> you can run this program "xgamma" which does not have a graphical interface
[12:44] <rory> bash is simply the shell you are using to launch that program
[12:45] <coamtik> is front end for xgamma or some shit
[12:45] <rory> I suspect you are baiting me however, and I'm happy I've given you the answer you need, so I'm done.
[12:45] <coamtik> graphical one. GUI
[12:46] <xebra> coamtik, what are you trying to do? If you need to change saturation/color/etc. you'd better adjust the settings directly on your monitor
[12:46] <coamtik> rory oh you are the same as guest. ok. anyway cool graphical things are beyond linux. it's so ...ewww 70s crappy UNIX like. I hate that crappy unix. and X server is hideous.
[12:47] <xebra> otherwise your graphics card might have a driver that allows you to do it, like nvidia if I'm not mistaken, some settings from a GUI
[12:47] <coamtik> xebra: I don't have them in my laptop monitor. moreover it's possible via software, windows does it
[12:47] <coamtik> i have nvidia. then how which option
[12:48] <coamtik> oh it has profiles in color, but not that "bar" control bar. it's still bad.
[12:50] <xebra> coamtik, I had nvidia some years ago and I remember I could play with several settings accessing a tool directly from a config panel (GUI). With official driver (closed-source). Not sure of the details now
[12:50] <coamtik> unix is hideous. it's like 70s. don't you hate that lack of graphical crap,as it's all command line. so nasty, and hideous.
[12:50] <EriC^^> !topic | coamtik
[12:50] <coamtik> I know linux is unix.
[12:51] <coamtik> but advanced, in the sense cool gui stuff.
[12:51] <coamtik> much better than unix.
[12:51] <xebra> coamtik, that's what's cool about linux.  I love minimalism. No graphical effects, flat interface, my wallpaper is almost a single color
[12:52] <xebra> anyway, with linux you can almost always configure everything the way you want. The problem is knowing how, lol
[12:55] <scottjl> lol. unix had graphics long before linux existed. and a gui doesn't make something "cool"
[13:05] <rory> "This is a UNIX system... I know this!"
[13:17] <anchnk> hi, anybody behind a corporate proxy witn NTLM authentication in here ?
[13:18] <anchnk> I am running cntlm as a daemon which runs in the background, configured apt to use it in apt.conf but for some reason I do have bunch of 407 while fetching repositories ?
[13:18] <zer0def> quick question - how do kernel packages differ between `generic`, `lowlatency` and `virtual`?
[13:19] <flats> Hello running ubuntu Zesty kernel 4.10.  My laptop looks best when running 2048x1152 however after i made all the changes and rebooted.  Now they are gone.  How do I get the xserver to hold and keep the addmode to xrandr?
[13:19] <flats> They are not even in xrandr anymore
[13:20] <flats> There are so many different tutorials, I just want to be sure i'm using the right one
[13:28] <darkblue_b> hi - where would I go to ask about Launchpad use ?
[13:28] <ducasse> darkblue_b: try #launchpad
[13:28] <darkblue_b> thx
[13:34] <roy_> hi
[13:34] <roy_> i have a bluetooth issue in my ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[13:35] <roy_> i am unable to fix it
[13:35] <roy_> lcpi shows me the bluetooth modules
[13:35] <roy_> lspci
[13:35] <roy_> but as its my laptop i am unable to unplug and plugin the bluetooth adapter
[13:36] <hateball> What's the issue, and why do you think disconnecting and reconnecting the bluetooth chipset would solve it?
[13:37] <hateball> If it's that you simply cannot connect, make sure that it's not blocked. Check with "rfkill list"
[13:42] <pakcjo> hello, does dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration makes the changes to xorg permanent?
[13:44] <pakcjo> I also have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf with my configuration, but it doesn't take effect
[14:37] <Tadassssss> hey #ubuntu, why can't I install unzip via sudo apt-get unzip? Error: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[14:37] <akik> Tadassssss: did you try that?
[14:37] <edwinksl> is that a typo? did you mean `sudo apt-get install unzip`?
[14:38] <Tadassssss> https://thepasteb.in/p/lOhO4j9KEA4hB
[14:38] <Tadassssss> this happens
[14:38] <genii> Tadassssss: Make sure you're running sudo apt update beforehand. Your list of packages may be out of date
[14:39] <Tadassssss> genii, all packages are up to date :(
[14:39] <Tadassssss> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[14:39] <Tadassssss>
[14:39] <Tadassssss> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:39] <Tadassssss> maybe I need to be root?
[14:39] <geirha> yes, you should run that with sudo
[14:39] <genii> Tadassssss: Looks like automatic updates are currently running in the background. Wait 5-10 minutes and try again then
[14:40] <Tadassssss> genii, having this problem for 2 hours now
[14:40] <Tadassssss> geirha, yes I am running with sudo
[14:40] <Tadassssss> I have access to root, maybe I should try installing it from root?
[14:40] <geirha> so ''sudo apt-get -f install''  gave the output you pasted?
[14:40] <genii> Tadassssss: If the lock file is being used, dpkg/apt is already running somewhere right now. Just let it finish
[14:41] <Tadassssss> geirha, thx for solving this out for me :D first day on ubuntu
[14:41] <Tadassssss> genii, thx too :)
[14:41] <Tadassssss> I was doing just apt-get -f install instead with sudo
[14:41] <genii> Tadassssss: This is normal when you have unattended upgrades enabled.
[14:42] <hipp> i see that error when dpkg is not active  ....  'rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'   as root to fix
[14:43] <geirha> could be an idea for apt-get to include sudo in the example command it suggests, at least if it finds SUDO_USER in the env
[14:43] <Tadassssss> geirha, that would be helpful. because for me ubuntu looks so damn difficult so far
[14:44] <Tadassssss> and I only want to run python scripts on it
[14:44] <Tadassssss> but still have to install and do so much stuff >.>
[14:45] <geirha> there are graphical apt frontends if you prefer that
[14:46] <Tadassssss> you mean remote access?
[14:48] <geirha> no, apt-get is just one of many APT frontends. apt-get can only be used on the command line, but there are several GUI applications that can do the same.
[14:49] <Tadassssss> mm okay, thanks, I will keep that in mind
[14:56] <ubuntu622> hi everyone!
[14:56] <ubuntu622> I wanted kinda confused between KDE neon and Kubuntu
[14:57] <ubuntu622> Considering the fact that my computer has shitty specs (i3-5th with 4 GBs of RAM)
[14:59] <genii> ubuntu622: Firstly, please try to cut down on the profanity, our channels are supposed to be family-friendly :) ... Neon is a rolling release of KDE which you can use under Kubuntu. Regular Kubuntu is a point release like Ubuntu is
[15:00] <ubuntu622> genii: I apologize
[15:00] <ubuntu622> I guess I would have trouble finding a better adjective though
[15:01] <ubuntu622> apart from being more on the cutting edge for KDE software, there's no difference between Kubuntu and Neon?
[15:01] <genii> Well, "crappy" is an acceptable substiture here
[15:01] <ubuntu622> I tend to use the ubuntu driver manager often in Mint
[15:02] <ubuntu622> but I heard it's not there in Neon
[15:02] <ubuntu622> is that a game changer? Can I achieve similar results using the CLI version?
[15:03] <genii> ubuntu622: I don't know what driver manager Mint uses. Kubuntu uses default KDE one from kdesystemsettings
[15:03] <genii> work, afk
[15:03] <ubuntu622> It does not use the default Ubuntu driver manager?
[15:05] <ubuntu622> one last thing: if I install neon alongside Mint, can I later swap it with Kubuntu in case I want to?
[15:15] <genii> ubuntu622: Ubuntu and Kubuntu used to use both have a common base of "jockey" for proprietary hardware driver detection but now Ubuntu uses ubuntu-drivers-common package. I do know Kubuntu's default one picks up any additional drivers in PPAs you may have added, like xorg-edgers or graphics-drivers
[15:17] <genii> ubuntu622: I would *suspect* that Mint's driver manager might just be a rewrite or fork of the original jockey
[15:17] <genii> But you'd have to ask them about that
[15:22] <hdon> hi all :) i'm wondering why on xenial service(8) and system v init scripts are still part of the system even though xenial uses systemd. i had assumed that they were just wrappers to offer compatibility. is this the case? or...?\
[15:25] <scottjl> because a lot of software out there doesn't use systemd and installs init scripts.
[15:25] <scottjl> init isn't going away for a long long time.
[15:30] <genii> hdon: Systemd scans for old Upstart and SysVinit scripts that still exist on the system and runs them as well as it's own jobs
[15:33] <hdon> genii, ohhh, thanks.
[16:09] <pavelz> hiya, i have external monitor connected to thinkpad t420 and after upgrade, it seems not to recognize the monitor configuration and xorg.conf get removed for some reason
[16:10] <Eli-5dce> pavelz, Newest Version?
[16:10] <pavelz> it used to be I could reboot and monitor rez would be correct
[16:10] <pavelz> yes
[16:10] <pavelz> Eli-5dce: yes
[16:11] <Eli-5dce> hmph
[16:11] <pavelz> there are a bunch of xorg.conf.DATE files in /etc/X11 too.
[16:11] <Eli-5dce> pavelz, what graphics chip/hardware?
[16:11] <pavelz> lenovo t420/nvidia
[16:12] <pavelz> i think I had proper xorg.conf but it got wiped for some unknown reason
[16:12] <Eli-5dce> hmph
[16:12] <pavelz> and I got dir full of these xorg generated configs
[16:13] <DexterF> hi
[16:14] <pavelz> and been using xrandr to set proper settings
[16:14] <DexterF> I read JeOS was an install option in ubuntu server since long, but I cannot find it. what's the JeOS status?
[16:15] <Eli-5dce> do you know the actual graphics chip pavelz?
[16:25] <pavelz> Eli-5dce: Quadro NVS 4200M/GT 520M
[16:26] <Eli-5dce> ok
[16:30] <Tadassssss> #ubuntu, could somebody explain me this step of setting up VNC on windows? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/m5f01lGdYsC7xrXebKY7/ Where do i have to put this ssh command line? on putty?
[16:32] <blkadder> Tadassssss, Are you trying to forward your linux session to your Windows box?
[16:32] <Tadassssss> blkadder, Yes I would like to control the linux with my windows machine
[16:33] <Tadassssss> not sure where should I input the ssh line
[16:33] <blkadder> On your Linux box.
[16:33] <Tadassssss> you mean putty?
[16:33] <Tadassssss> im sorry, im very new on this
[16:34] <genii> X forwarding to a Windows X server like XMing works not bad
[16:34] <blkadder> Tadassssss, How are you accessing your Linux box? Via Putty?
[16:34] <Tadassssss> yes
[16:35] <blkadder> So then yes, login to your Linux machine via Putty and then put the command there
[16:35] <Tadassssss> ok trying
[16:36] <Tadassssss> blkadder, getting error https://paste.pound-python.org/show/PHnV02qsLzjPEBWmAnIJ/
[16:36] <Tadassssss> been struggling for 8 hours with this already
[16:37] <blkadder> Well that error indicates the port is already in use I believe
[16:37] <blkadder> netstat -a | grep 5901
[16:37] <Tadassssss> but I killed it before...
[16:37] <Tadassssss> it shows that it is in use, blkadder
[16:38] <Tadassssss> but I can kill it with vncserver -kill :1
[16:38] <Tadassssss> ok now I succeded
[16:38] <crc32> I'm on ubuntu 16.04 and I have a 7700K intell processor that has a GPU with device id 8086:5912. I can't seem to get the graphics to work with GL mode. Any one know where the right drivers are? I tried installing the intel drivers? Its like I'm stuck in software rendering mode.
[16:41] <Tadassssss> cant get the vnc viewer work... getting error: connection could not be made, target machine actively refused it
[16:41] <crc32> supposedly I should be ale to get away with useing a driver "HD Graphics 630" but how would  get that installed?
[16:41] <blkadder> Tadassssss, How are you trying to connect?
[16:41] <Tadassssss> through tight vnc viewer, tried localhost:5901, tried to connect via my server's ip:5901, neither works...
[16:44] <blkadder> Tadassssss, Is the ssh tunnel up?
[16:44] <Tadassssss> blkadder, I guess no, where do I set it up?
[16:44] <blkadder> netstat -a | grep 5901
[16:45] <blkadder> That ssh command establishes the tunnel
[16:45] <Tadassssss> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/KiQmW9QesZpuN69upmDd/ showing this
[16:45] <blkadder> k
[16:45] <Tadassssss> still the same...
[16:45] <Tadassssss> Is it even possible to connect to a linux machine with windows?
[16:46] <crc32> What is the module name for diver for ""HD Graphics 630"?
[16:46] <blkadder> Tadassssss, YUes
[16:46] <blkadder> Err yes...
[16:46] <crc32> Tadassssss: Yes with Putty If that ssh client is still around
[16:47] <Tadassssss> been trying since 8am to connect, now its 8 pm at my place :)
[16:47] <blkadder> Oh.
[16:47] <blkadder> I see the problem.
[16:47] <crc32> sorry I mean putty
[16:47] <Tadassssss> I think I will give up
[16:47] <Tadassssss> and just give away
[16:47] <blkadder> Tadassssss, Apologies I had it backwards.
[16:48] <blkadder> The instructions are confusing...
[16:48] <blkadder> One sec.
[16:48] <Tadassssss> ok :(
[16:49] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, what are you trying to do ? get X with putty from win ?
[16:49] <Tadassssss> Get ubuntu screen on my windows machine
[16:49] <Tadassssss> so I can control it with GUI
[16:49] <Tadassssss> not with the commands
[16:50] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, well first you need a local xserver i sugest vcxsrv then just export display on your linux machine and set x forwarding option in putty and done
[16:50] <Mathisen> not so hard
[16:51] <Tadassssss> Mathisen, yes I've done all that and I'm stuck at the connection point, dont know what to do with https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Bvd9sfQ0wK7XLPacJgRt/ because I get connection refused
[16:51] <blkadder> Tadassssss, You do have a VNC server up don't you?
[16:51] <Tadassssss> yes
[16:52] <blkadder> On the Linux box?
[16:52] <Tadassssss> yes on putty, vncserver is running
[16:52] <blkadder> Putty is a ssh client.
[16:52] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, just set this in putty http://www.geo.mtu.edu/geoschem/docs/images/putty_4.jpg
[16:53] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, then make sure you have exported display on linux machine
[16:53] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, make sure your sshd_config has "X11Forwarding yes"
[16:54] <Mathisen> then restart sshd if you change it
[16:54] <Tadassssss> ok, wait a sec trying all that
[16:56] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, that all you have to do, and export it by doing this export DISPLAY=<your_win_machine_ip>:0"
[16:56] <Mathisen> im off to my coffee again
[16:57] <Combined2857> If I make a normal ubuntu instalation (no encrypted partitions or home folders) someone with a live USB will be able to access my home folder ?
[16:57] <Mathisen> Combined2857, yes
[16:57] <crc32> In ubuntu how do I select a newer kernal and install it? It seems I'm still on 4.4.0.
[16:57] <genii> Yes
[16:58] <Tadassssss> Ok, Mathisen, I've done all that do I need to do https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Bvd9sfQ0wK7XLPacJgRt/ this too yes?
[16:58] <ducasse> crc32: which ubuntu version?
[16:58] <Combined2857> dammit, I dont want to make a luks partition, luks sucks
[16:58] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, no
[16:58] <Combined2857> its vulnerable and cannot be resised
[16:59] <Tadassssss> Mathisen, so now I just connect via the VNCviewer with localhost:5901?
[16:59] <Tadassssss> or my linux machine ip?
[16:59] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, you just connect with putty to your linux machine yes, and if everthing is right it works
[17:00] <Tadassssss> still not getting anything
[17:00] <Tadassssss> w/e
[17:00] <Tadassssss> I give up
[17:00] <Tadassssss> anybody who wants a 60$ digitalocean account pm me
[17:00] <Tadassssss> first comes first served
[17:00] <Mathisen> Tadassssss, maybe sleep on it instead of gicing 60$ away
[17:00] <blkadder> Tadassssss, It's definitely possible to set up.
[17:00] <Mathisen> giving
[17:01] <blkadder> Did you set the forward in Putty to 5901?
[17:01] <Tadassssss> yes, everything...
[17:01] <blkadder> The instructions you are using are a bit confusing.
[17:01] <blkadder> http://www.linuxtopia.org/HowToGuides/VNC_setup_Linux_Windows.html
[17:01] <blkadder> Those are a bit simpler.
[17:01] <blkadder> Or rather clearer...
[17:02] <Tadassssss> ok, blkadder, trying these, thanks
[17:02] <blkadder> I've set it up before but has been a while...
[17:03] <hdon> genii, is it possible that there will be init scripts and systemd services with the same name? will systemd still start both in such a case?
[17:03] <genii> hdon: It runs it's own first, then Upstart's then SysVinit
[17:03] <blkadder> Tadassssss, My guess is that you haven't set up the tunnel on Putty itself.
[17:05] <genii> hdon: And Upstart will soon not be a thing ( in the next couple Ubuntu releases) so in that case it will just be that systemd runs it own stuff then sysvinit stuff
[17:08] <Tadassssss> blkadder, I was succesful with this tutorial, but now on connecting via TightVncViewer I get 'Connection gracefully closed'
[17:10] <Tadassssss> I googled it might be a problem of the vncviewer itself
[17:10] <Tadassssss> will try another one
[17:11] <blkadder> Tadassssss, Progress...
[17:25] <Tadassssss> any idea what this could mean? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/LQKS7q0fJSADXJd88tBE/ Still cant connect with vnc
[17:27] <blkadder> Tadassssss, Yes
[17:27] <blkadder> There are lock files present.
[17:28] <Tadassssss> I should remove them?
[17:28] <Tadassssss> or maybe restart the server?
[17:28] <blkadder> What that message is saying is that it created a desktop on:3
[17:28] <blkadder> Which would be port 5903 I believe...
[17:28] <Tadassssss> yes, that is correct, tried to connect localhost:5903, but same error
[17:29] <blkadder> Did you set up the tunneling in Putty?
[17:29] <Tadassssss> yes, everything like in your provided tutorial
[17:30] <blkadder> As far as removing the lock files assuming those sessions aren't active you are fine to remove them.
[17:30] <blkadder> Also, why are you issuing kill commands to vncserver?
[17:30] <Tadassssss> to try and stop them? the first tutorial provided offered that
[17:30] <blkadder> You only want to stop it if there is a problem.
[17:31] <Tadassssss> oh okay
[17:31] <blkadder> So what port have you set up tunneling under in Putty?
[17:32] <Tadassssss> 5901
[17:32] <blkadder> Because right now it needs to be 5903 and not 5901.
[17:32] <Tadassssss> but yes
[17:32] <Tadassssss> yes
[17:32] <Tadassssss> one sec
[17:33] <blkadder> I'd also make sure that vncserver is running.
[17:35] <Tadassssss> Ok, I finally managed to connect, but all I am seeing is the linux terminal and nothing else
[17:35] <blkadder> Yay
[17:36] <Tadassssss> yeah, thanks, but still cannot see the actual desktop
[17:36] <Tadassssss> only the terminal for cmd lines
[17:36] <Tadassssss> but I think I got the solution
[17:37] <pavlos> Tadassssss: look at the .vnc/xstartup file, it starts a term
[17:38] <Tadassssss> pavlos, Should I restart the server after chaning xstartup file? or atleast make a new Putty connection?
[17:39] <pavlos> Tadassssss: I'd say yes
[17:40] <blkadder> Tadassssss, Pay attention to which port it gets attached to as if it changes you need to adjust the tunnel to match
[17:40] <blkadder> Personally, I'd go remove those extraneous lock files.
[17:40] <Tadassssss> Yes, I think I have to remove these lock files
[17:42] <Tadassssss> I think I will just delete my server and start everything all over
[17:44] <genii> !aptlock | Tadassssss
[17:44] <Scoop7> $url = 'https://website.com';
[17:44] <Scoop7>     $output = shell_exec("w3m -dump $url");
[17:44] <Scoop7>     dd($output);
[17:44] <Scoop7> my utf-8 char drops when I get the content to php - how to resolve this ?
[17:44] <Scoop7> when I execute the command to terminal I can see the utf-8 chars present
[17:47] <blkadder> genii, Different lock files....
[17:49] <pavlos> Scoop7: maybe set default_charset = "utf-8"; in php.ini
[17:52] <Scoop7> ini_set('default_charset','utf-8');  <-- seems it doesn't make a difference . pavlos
[17:53] <geirha> in case that doesn't add LANG to the environment that w3m will inherit, add putenv("LANG=en_US.UTF-8")  (or whatever your locale is)
[17:53] <geirha> w3m might also have an option to force utf-8 regardless of locale
[17:54] <Tadassssss> Ok, I reinstalled my whole server, started from scratch and cannot connect to the vnc again
[17:54] <Tadassssss> srsly
[17:54] <blkadder> LOL
[17:55] <blkadder> Check those port numbers....
[17:55] <Tadassssss> checking, getting a new unseen error now
[17:55] <blkadder> Make sure your tunnel in putty matches
[17:56] <blkadder> Because if you started from scratch my guess is you are now back on port 5901
[17:56] <Tadassssss> yes, but accidentally killed it
[17:56] <Tadassssss> now on port 3
[17:57] <Tadassssss> OMG
[17:57] <Tadassssss> I am succesful
[17:57] <blkadder> Yay
[17:57] <Tadassssss> ubuntu master here
[17:57] <Tadassssss> thx blkadder !
[17:57] <Tadassssss> finally...
[17:58] <Tadassssss> but I cannot upload files via vncviewer right?
[17:58] <blkadder> I don't believe so.
[17:58] <Scoop7> geirha: you're a fucking genius !
[17:58] <Tadassssss> okay, thanks for the help!
[17:58] <blkadder> Sure.
[18:00] <blkadder> Tadassssss, So apparently if you are using RealVNC you can. It depends on the client & server.
[18:00] <Tadassssss> yes, the problem was with the ports, I believe the connection can be made only on port 5901, I've read it somewhere
[18:00] <genii> Scoop7: Please watch the profanity. Channel is family-friendly here
[18:01] <Scoop7> genii: sorry, was just happy about the result :)
[18:01] <RBoreal_Frippery> Should I bother trying to upgrade from ubuntu 14 to ubuntu 17 or just back up and reinstall? How well does the procedure usually work?
[18:02] <genii> Scoop7: Understandable :)
[18:05] <shadow98> https://pastebin.com/uvKFN22j
[18:07] <blkadder> shadow98, Need to add the key probably
[18:07] <blkadder> https://askubuntu.com/questions/766883/there-is-no-public-key-available-for-the-following-key-ids-1397bc53640db551
[18:10] <DJones> RBoreal_Frippery: I've upgraded from 12.04 to to 17.04 without issues, but I did them one release at a time, if you're going to upgrade I'd suggest 14.04 to 16.04 and then maybe stick with that until 18.04 is released for upgrade
[18:10] <DJones> RBoreal_Frippery: No matter what, backup anything important before upgrading
[18:11] <ducasse> RBoreal_Frippery: you would need to upgrade 14.04->16.04->16.10->17.04, so a reinstall is probably quicker
[18:22] <shadow98> blkadder: what key?
[18:22] <shadow98> pps missed your post :_
[18:22] <blkadder> shadow98, The key ID that you posted.
[18:23] <blkadder> shadow98, 611B903CAB97EA77
[18:23] <blkadder> Use the command referenced in the link I set and replace the key ID in that post with the one you posted.
[18:24] <blkadder> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 611B903CAB97EA77
[18:33] <ax562> does ubuntu 16.04 utilize hyper threading?
[18:42] <genii> blkadder: I think you only need the last 8 bytes of the key, not all of it
[18:43] <blkadder> ax562, Yes.
[18:44] <ax562> blkadder thanks
[18:46] <CodeMouse92__> MATE question - possible to set multiple keyboard shortcuts for the same action?
[18:46] <CodeMouse92__> For example, I don't want to break my laptop's play/pause buttons, but I also like having an alternative keyboard combination for when I'm hooked up to my external keyboard.
[18:54] <guttume> hi i uninstalled apache on ubuntu and removed apache folder from /var/lib and /etc
[18:54] <guttume> now when i am trying to reinstall apache, it is unable to start
[18:54] <trif55> So I kinda forgot I was VNCed into a 16.04 upgrade to 16.10 using update manager, when I connected in on the CLI, it said reboot system so I just kinda automatically sudo rebooted without thinking, now I can't remotely access, do you think update-manger had finished or have I bricked it?
[18:54] <guttume> the config files are not getting generated while reinstalling it
[18:55] <genii> guttume: Because it knows it was installed before and those folders weren't removed automatically unless you used --purge with apt. Install it again from apt but with --reinstall flag
[18:55] <guttume> genii: i tried that but it gives the same result
[18:56] <genii> guttume: Start it with sudo service   and not /et/init.d/apache
[18:57] <genii> */etc/
[18:58] <nemo> So... my coworker has this machine.  https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201606-22367/  and it's far worse than implied - any attempt to suspend corrupts the file system - I have no idea why.  He did note that a 4.9 kernel fixed, so I guess something has been corrected upstream.
[18:58] <guttume> its ubuntu 16
[18:59] <guttume> thanks anyway i got it running
[19:01] <trif55> So have i broken it totally?
[19:02] <mutsy> Hi there. I run ubuntu on a mac, but for some reason when I close the lid it does suspend and wakes up again after 3~5 seconds ... anyone knows how to fix this? It's really annoying ;/
[19:02] <genii> trif55: The outlook is not good, no
[19:03] <trif55> hmm, I wonder why the cli prompted a reboot
[19:04] <CodeMouse92__> Okay, fine, different question. Where is the config file for keyboard shortcuts on Ubuntu MATE?
[19:05] <blkadder> trif55, Can you ssh into it and/or do you have another means of access to it?
[19:05] <trif55> yea I can physically access
[19:05] <trif55> it's booted but doesn't seem to have found the NIC
[19:06] <trif55> I started update-manager and much configuring is occuring
[19:06] <blkadder> Well it is unlikely to update much without a connection.
[19:06] <genii> Will timeout eventually
[19:06] <blkadder> Depending on where it is at in the process...
[19:07] <blkadder> trif55, Sounds like you need to focus on getting the nic back up first.
[19:10] <fuser> I'm trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 17.04 but apt-get update and dist-upgrade doesnt find a new version, despite selecting notify me for any new version in Software & Updates.
[19:10] <fuser> What can I do?
[19:11] <ioria> fuser, do-release-upgrade , maybe
[19:13] <genii> fuser: Check to see if it has Prompt=lts in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   ..if so, change it from lts to normal
[19:13] <Pici> fuser: keep in mind that 17.04 is not an LTS release
[19:13] <Ben64> fuser: yeah why would you want to leave lts
[19:14] <fuser> because I like packages that are not 10 years old
[19:14] <Ben64> they aren't 10 years old
[19:14] <fuser> well we can debate this all day
[19:14] <fuser> kidding
[19:14] <fuser> but they are too old, i develop and like the packages being rather new
[19:14] <genii> fuser: Also, as Pici points out. Normally you would go 16.04 to 18.04 directly after the 18.04.1 point release. Now you'll have to go 16.04 to 16.10 to 17.04 to 17.10 to 18.04
[19:15] <Ben64> good non-answer
[19:16] <fuser> Ben64: I've had huge troubles in the past with packages that were simply too old for them to be usuable for me. Installing new gets me in all kinds of trouble. Even putting stuff in /usr/local/lib can screw your system over as this dir is looked in before /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu for one example
[19:17] <fuser> all of the sudden gsettings isnt working and craps over the whole fucking system just because you installed a local lib, so thanks but i prefer new packages
[19:17] <Ben64> ok but none of that is a reason
[19:17] <Ben64> "i like newer packages" doesn't make sense
[19:17] <genii> fuser: Please, no profanity. The channel is family-friendly here
[19:18] <fuser> Ben64: "i like newer packages" is short form for you dont get to dictate what I'm doing for the next 30 minutes. Good bye rude person.
[19:18] <trif55> ok, success, couple of reboots and nic sorted itself out
[19:18] <trif55> award for robustness! lol
[19:18] <blkadder> Heh
[19:19] <blkadder> Yay non-deterministic behavior?
[19:19] <Ben64> yep, i'm the rude one
[19:19] <hipp> fuser: if you need bleeding edge packages, why are you on ubuntu?
[19:19] <genii> fuser: Anyhow, if you need to go to 17.04, probably a clean install is going to be faster than 16.04 to 16.10 to 17.04
[19:19]  * blkadder adopts his "Not this argument again look."
[19:20] <hipp> fuser: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-operating-systems-bleeding-edge-updates/
[19:20] <ppf> can i verify the microcode version of my cpu?
[19:22] <blkadder> ppf, dmidecode?
[19:24] <rodney77> Hey, did something recently change with the way ubuntu mounts ftp and sftp servers from within nautilus?
[19:24] <rodney77> I can't open remote files in geany anymore
[19:24] <rodney77> and I can't find mounted servers at /run/user/(userid)/gvfs anymore
[19:26] <rodney77> in fact, if i try to cd to it, it says 'permission denied'
[19:26] <rodney77> even when i'm root
[19:28] <trif55> ok I'm going to upgrade this broken 16.10 to 17.04, except boot is fill, uname -r says 3.13.0-83 can I delete the initrd files with 4.0 and 4.8 in their names?
[19:29] <ioria> trif55, are you sure you are on yakkety ?
[19:29] <blkadder> That's old...
[19:29] <trif55> erm, uname says so
[19:30] <ioria> trif55, cat /etc/issue
[19:30] <blkadder> So no, don't delete the newer kernels...
[19:30] <trif55> yea pretty sure I'm on yakkety, looks like the upgrade kinda worked
[19:30] <trif55> what can i delete to make room for 17.04?
[19:30] <blkadder> Are you out of space?
[19:30] <trif55> yea boot says it's full
[19:30] <trif55> when i try 17.04
[19:31] <blkadder> Joy.
[19:31] <trif55> lol
[19:31] <blkadder> Clear apt cache is one way of freeing up space
[19:31] <trif55> my main drive is ok
[19:32] <trif55> i've got liek 200 gb
[19:32] <trif55> like*
[19:32] <blkadder> I'd try to figure out why you are booting to an old kernel.
[19:32] <trif55> hehe
[19:32] <blkadder> Because you ideally want to boot to a current one and then you'd be ok to remove some of the older ones.
[19:32] <pavlos> trif55: if /boot is full, you need to remove some old kernel
[19:32] <trif55> I see
[19:32] <trif55> how do I change that?
[19:33] <blkadder> trif55, Should be a boot option in grub
[19:33] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[19:34] <EriC^^> removes old kernels and leaves you with the last 2
[19:34] <blkadder> EriC^^, Right now he's booting into an old kernel.
[19:34] <ioria> trif55, why your system is using a  3.13  kernel  ?
[19:34] <trif55> i'm not sure
[19:34] <EriC^^> ah
[19:34] <trif55> I tried sudo update-initramfs -u -k all and it tried to unpack 4.8 and ran out of space
[19:35] <trif55> hang on, might have got it
[19:35] <ppf> blkadder: where does it tell me the microcode version?
[19:36] <ioria> ppf, maybe i'am wrong , but it's about your motherboard
[19:37] <blkadder> ppf, Actually dmesg | grep microcode is all you need
[19:37] <ioria> ppf,  it gets updated with your mb upgrades, so usually the driver suggested it's not necessary
[19:38] <blkadder> If you actually need CPU microcode version...
[19:41] <ppf> i have a skylake
[19:41] <ppf> :)
[19:42] <trif55> hmm, buhtched it, just deleted most stuff out of boot without my current kernel version and am letting 17.04 do it's thing
[19:42] <trif55> assume it'll update the kernel if it can
[19:42] <trif55> now there's space
[19:44] <rodney77> can someone tell me if the mount point has changed for gvfs-based connections in nautilus?
[19:44] <rodney77> or if the protocol has changed somehow?
[19:45] <Bashing-om> ppf: " sysop@x1604:~$ dpkg -l amd64-microcode >> ii  amd64-microcod 2.20160316.1 amd64" For an old no-longer-supported main board .
[19:49] <Jordan_U> rodney77: Can you access the filesystem as the same user that mounted it?
[19:50] <rodney77> Hi Jordan, I can still access the mounted file system just fine
[19:50] <rodney77> Jordan_U
[19:51] <Jordan_U> rodney77: So, as the user that mounted the filesystem you can "ls /run/user/(userid)/gvfs/" ?
[19:54] <rodney77> hi Jordan_U, I can but nothing comes up
[19:54] <rodney77> it shows as an empty directory
[19:55] <ioria> rodney77, does it works from terminal ?
[19:55] <rodney77> hi ioria, it does not
[19:55] <ioria> rodney77,  sftp user@ip
[19:56] <ioria> rodney77,  drop root ....
[19:57] <Jordan_U> rodney77: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[19:58] <rodney77> ioria, sftp connects with no problems
[19:59] <rodney77> Jordan_U, https://pastebin.com/jDPavRj8
[20:01] <ioria> rodney77,  nautilus -> connect to server -> sftp://user@ip/folder   ?
[20:03] <rodney77> ioria, that works fine too
[20:03] <ioria> rodney77,  mount again
[20:03] <Enissay> I want to move files having a specific pattern (using regex, no issue here) and move them to another folder, what is wrong with this syntax please as it's not working: find . -regex '(3|2[3-9]).*' -exec mv {} MyFolder/ \;
[20:04] <ioria> rodney77, i mean, pastebin the output of "mount".
[20:06] <rodney77> ok ioria, but i was already connected to a server when i ran mount before
[20:06] <rodney77> i'll connect to another server and run mount again
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Enissay: What are some example filenames you're trying to match? What happens when you run that command now?
[20:07] <Enissay> 30.json 30.db .... 23.json 23.db ....
[20:07] <Enissay> Jordan_U, nothing happens
[20:08] <blkadder> It doesn't seem to be mapping UID to user name.
[20:09] <blkadder> gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
[20:09] <blkadder> If I am reading this correctly...
[20:09] <blkadder> Which I may not be. :-)
[20:09] <Enissay> Jordan_U, adding -regextype posix-egrep fixed it xD
[20:36] <plujon> I have an Ubuntu server and I'm interested in understanding how it uses memory over time on a per-process basis.  What's the normal tool one uses for this?
[20:44] <blkadder> plujon, You could use something like atop.
[20:45] <CodeMouse92__> How can I run an entire bash command in a keyboard shortcut?
[20:47] <blkadder> CodeMouse92__, System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts
[20:48] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Maybe I should clarify. I know that part...but I can only execute a single program or script. NOT an entire command with args
[20:50] <genii> CodeMouse92__: You'd need a different shortcut for every argument that it was possible to give the script
[20:51] <plujon> blkadder: Thanks; I'll take a look at atop.
[20:52] <CodeMouse92__> genii: Well...I really just need the command "xdotool key XF86AudioPlay"
[20:52] <CodeMouse92__> That command works in the terminal, btw. So, if I get that line bound to a keyboard shortcut, that'll mean I have TWO shortcuts per command
[20:53] <genii> Hm
[20:53] <CodeMouse92__> genii: But, sticking just that line in for the command on the keyboard shortcut screen? No dice. It does nothing
[20:53] <blkadder> Just create a script out of it?
[20:53] <genii> Tell it to run it in a termina
[20:53] <genii> work, afk
[20:54] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Thought of that, still hates it.
[20:54] <CodeMouse92__> genii: Hm, there's a thought.
[20:54] <tomreyn> plujon: atop is a small and simple solution which can do what you're looking for. if you're rather thinking of graphs on a web interface you would be looking for a system monitoring software such as netdata, munin, cacti, icinga, nagios instead.
[20:55] <blkadder> CodeMouse92__, How did you do it?
[20:55] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Well, the script is just your typical shebang (#!/bin/bash), followed by that line I have above. Saved, ran 'chmod +x play' on the file
[20:55] <CodeMouse92__> Then set the command for the shortcut to '/home/jason/.scripts/keyboard_hack/play'
[20:55] <blkadder> And that didn't work?
[20:56] <CodeMouse92__> Which is indeed where it is. And, no, didn't work
[20:56] <CodeMouse92__> But...running that in the terminal DOES work
[20:56] <blkadder> Because it has a tty I imagine.
[20:56] <CodeMouse92__> Hm?
[20:57] <plujon> tomreyn: Thanks; small and simple sounds good.  Maybe I'll try {netdata,munin,etc.} sometime if atop doesn't do what I need.
[20:59] <tomreyn> ;)
[21:00] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: What do you mean?
[21:05] <blkadder> CodeMouse92__, Pretty sure that should have worked. Can you try putting something like echo "test" as the script and see if it runs at all?
[21:05] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Sure, stand by
[21:07] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Yeah, that's working.
[21:07] <blkadder> Hmm...
[21:08] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Also, 'xdotool get_desktop > /tmp/testfile' is writing '0' to the file, as I'd expect
[21:09] <CodeMouse92__> (In the script)
[21:10] <thewillo> Anyone know how to properly compile glibc/binutils/gcc-7.1 for multiple target architectures? I think I'm doing something wrong related to the order and way I compile them
[21:11] <prodigel> hey all.    I'm looking for a bloody ubuntu setup that works with checkpoint Personal VPN that being <IP_ADDRESS>+ firefox 51 + custom java version
[21:12] <prodigel> unfortuntely all my attempts to install <IP_ADDRESS> failed
[21:12] <prodigel> I've tried older ubuntu iso's like 16.04 (which magically is now called 16,04.2) and 15.10, no success
[21:12] <thewillo> prodigel there's a guide to compiling the mainline kernel for ubuntu somewhere easily findable on google
[21:12] <prodigel> what's up with <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:12] <thewillo> I've found it many times, and it works
[21:13] <thewillo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[21:13] <thewillo> there
[21:13] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: HAHA! Found the problem: https://askubuntu.com/a/766220/23786
[21:13] <thewillo> i found it again
[21:13] <prodigel> thewillo, the problem is that installing that particular kernel give me no functional networking and/or bluetooth\
[21:13] <thewillo> did you configure it to enable the modules for your hardware?
[21:14] <blkadder> CodeMouse92__, What was the issue?
[21:14] <prodigel> thewillo, does it need custom configuration?
[21:14] <blkadder> Path?
[21:14] <thewillo> yes prodigel, unless you copy the .config from your already working ubuntu installation
[21:14] <thewillo> even then, it may require some messing with
[21:14] <prodigel> thewillo, is that in the guide?
[21:14] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Well, it WAS working just fine, actually. It's just that, when executing xdotool FROM a keyboard shortcut, you have to give the fingers time to leave the keyboard....
[21:14] <blkadder> LOL
[21:14] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Otherwise, the real and virtual key presses get all tangled up
[21:14] <thewillo> I don't remember... and I'm too busy putting together my new pc to care about reading it
[21:14] <thewillo> Yay new PC!
[21:15] <thewillo> no more dual-core broadwell, got me a 8 core HT Ryzen @3.5ghz
[21:15] <prodigel> thewillo, point taken. I feel like there's a conspiracy around that build... anything above it works, anything below + included doesn't
[21:15] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: So, basically, just 'sleep 0.5'
[21:15] <prodigel> thewillo, I'm just too lazy to figure it out I suppose...
[21:15] <thewillo> prodigel, you can upgrade ubuntu, or install the hwe kernel
[21:16] <blkadder> CodeMouse92__, Ack.
[21:16] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Or, in my case, 'sleep 0.3' before the command. pretty simple
[21:16] <prodigel> thewillo, if only I had time to hack around ...
[21:16] <thewillo> prodigel, but Ubuntu will ALWAYS be behind mainline linux kernel, because they test very throughly for a long time before they release a kernel version
[21:16] <CodeMouse92__> The path to the script itself is fine, I just needed to lead off the script with the sleep
[21:16] <thewillo> prodigel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[21:17] <thewillo> that's the guide i meant to give you(next result after the first one i posted)
[21:18] <thewillo> you gotta learn to make good google search strings that narrow down and prioritize the results in a way that benefits your searching... google is a skill... people laugh at me when I say i'm good at googling but most people suck at google searches
[21:18] <thewillo> also, be prepared to try many different search strings, and learn the macros google supports to make words required, required to be missing, etc
[21:19] <thewillo> if you put a + as a prefix to a word, it must be there, a - before a word, it must NOT be there
[21:19] <prodigel> thewillo, I get you, I was looking for a silver bullet. I'll try the guide for now, hopefully it will work
[21:19] <thewillo> and there's like AND and OR, not sure if those are still supported
[21:19] <thewillo> prodigel, highlight me if it doesn't work
[21:19] <thewillo> I may be able to provide assistance... with my google skills
[21:19] <thewillo> lol
[21:20] <thewillo> anyways, back to assembling the new beast - i mean pc
[21:20] <thewillo> 8 core HT 3.4ghz with 3.8ghz turbo, ryzen 1700x
[21:21] <prodigel> ah ... amd rebel
[21:21] <prodigel> good luck!
[21:21] <thewillo> at first everyone told me not to get ryzen because it has problems with compiling... I read all the reports on the forums and such... only one problem, you can't compile gcc for ryzen specific optimization until the make a workaround, every other persons issue was clearly user error
[21:21] <thewillo> Besides, I can return it for 15 days
[21:21] <thewillo> so, I feel safe
[21:22] <CodeMouse92__> blkadder: Or, apparently, instead of sleeping, I can just add the "--clearmodifiers" arg to the 'xdotool' command.
[21:23] <CodeMouse92__> Hah. Don't even need the scripts. Just the full command: "xdotool key --clearmodifiers XF86AudioPlay"
[21:23] <lavinho> good night
[21:23] <CodeMouse92__> Works perfectly in a keyboard shortcut. BOOYA!
[21:23] <ThePortWhisperer> hi, what command shows all mounted and  unmounted drives, ubuntu?
[21:23] <lavinho> hoe to put works correctly tp link ue300
[21:23] <lavinho> ????
[21:24] <blkadder> CodeMouse92__, Good deal.
[21:24] <CodeMouse92__> yay hacking!
[21:24] <blkadder> "Beat on it until it works."
[21:26] <plujon> grep ENABLED /etc/default/sysstat # ENABLED="false" # huh?
[21:27] <blkadder> plujon, What are you trying to do, use sar?
[21:27] <plujon> blkadder: Yes.
[21:27] <blkadder> I thought you wanted per process info.
[21:27] <plujon> I want both.
[21:28] <plujon> I have 3 DO droplets, and I noticed that on 2 of them, even though I thought sysstat was installed and enabled, it was in fact not enabled.
[21:28] <plujon> I don't know if this is DigitalOcean's doing or Ubuntu's default.  In either case, it is weird (to me).
[21:29] <blkadder> What is a "DO droplet"?
[21:29] <plujon> Digital Ocean.
[21:29] <blkadder> It's default
[21:29] <plujon> Default for Ubuntu?
[21:29] <blkadder> sar consumes some resources.
[21:29] <blkadder> Yes
[21:29] <blkadder> And you need to configure it.
[21:29] <blkadder> So it isn't something that is enabled by default AFAIK
[21:30] <plujon> apt-get install atop # atop automatically starts collecting data AFAICT
[21:30] <plujon> apt-get install sysstat # sysstat does not automatically start collecting data ..?
[21:31] <blkadder> I could be mistaken but I think what you are attempting is overkill. What doesn't atop provide that you want from sar?
[21:31] <blkadder> I know that sar doesn't give you some of what you want, but I am not certain the reverse is true.
[21:33] <blkadder> And there is even an "atopsar" command.
[21:33] <blkadder> https://www.atoptool.nl/systemreports.php
[21:35] <ThePortWhisperer> i added a new hard drive to an ubuntu VM
[21:35] <ThePortWhisperer> is there anyway to know what the default name would be? i'm guessing the original drive is sda and this would be sdb?
[21:35] <plujon> Well, I'm not sure what I want.  I usually want historical data when a problem surfaces.  So I thought I'd use sar since it seems to be common and there are probably tools to help process its data.
[21:38] <plujon> blkadder: Doesn't atop use *more* resources than sar?
[21:39] <pavlos> ThePortWhisperer: dmesg will tell what devices are plugged in, dmesg | grep sd
[21:41] <blkadder> plujon, I doubt it and/or it would be negligible.
[21:41] <ThePortWhisperer> pavlos, thanks, here is the output: http://imgur.com/a/aAsGp
[21:41] <blkadder> atop will provide you with historical data and with more granularity than sar.
[21:41] <ThePortWhisperer> do i need to add this to /etc/fstab to access it
[21:41] <blkadder> Since you wanted per process info
[21:43] <blkadder> plujon, Ultimately though you might want to look at a proper monitoring system.
[21:43] <blkadder> Depending on your use case, the scale at which you need to do this, etc.
[21:44] <plujon> blkadder: I have a web server and I want to have some historical data so if something changes (like the amount of RAM used goes way up), I'll be able to tell when that happens.  I'm not sure what I want.
[21:45] <pavlos> ThePortWhisperer: sdb is 40GB, 3 partitions, https://askubuntu.com/questions/154180/how-to-mount-a-new-drive-on-startup
[21:46] <blkadder> plujon, That is typically something you'd use a monitoring system for.
[21:50] <thewillo> yay my gcc build is working finally with the new glibc and binutils... the only thing I did differently is specify each stage manually one make command at a time and it's working unlike using make without arguments
[21:51] <thewillo> oh... I forgot to specify march and mtune... guess it's back to the drawing board
[21:54] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[21:54] <CountryfiedLinux> Does AMD officially support the AMD e2-7110 for Ubuntu or is there only the free driver?
[21:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm this close |  | to buying a new laptop. I just need to know if it's officially supported on Linux by AMD.
[21:58] <kenrin> You are asking a ubuntu support channel what AMD supports?  I don't think we would have any idea beyond what is listed on their website
[21:59] <akik> if there just would be a place where this kind of information could be gathered, like a wiki
[22:00] <kenrin> If I were you, I would probably check the AMDGPU-PRO release notes
[22:02] <CountryfiedLinux> I see only Radeon. Nothing about e2 cards.
[22:02] <CountryfiedLinux> Maybe there's a different name for it, but if there's not it's not on the list.
[22:03] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: in cursory googling, amd e2-7110 is an apu, not a gpu
[22:04] <ThePortWhisperer> i would like to add sdb to my etc/fstab, but i can't figure out what sort of filesystem it uses. is it lvm2? screenshots of output of relevant commands: http://imgur.com/a/aAsGp
[22:04] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: fwiw, the first hit on google for 'amd e2-7110 linux' is: https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/component/dmi/4458/dmi%3AAMDE2-7110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/
[22:04] <ThePortWhisperer> really i just want to access the drive and change a single file on it.
[22:04] <kenrin> lvm2 isn't a filesystem
[22:05] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: if all you want is to access the drive (once) and change it, then you don't need to add it to fstab
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> oh i see it now..ext4
[22:05] <kenrin> ext4 would be
[22:05] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: fstab is for (semi-)permanent mounted filesystems
[22:05] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: just run `sudo mount` (or `mount`, depending) with the correct options on the command-line
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> nacc, how can i do this? if i try to cd /dev/sdb5 it fails, what's the proper way?
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> hm
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> okay
[22:05] <ThePortWhisperer> it did complain about not having anything in /etc/fstab when i tried that last time
[22:06] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh R2 thanks nacc . R7 and R9 are officially supported, but not R2. :( Oh well.
[22:06] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: if it's a ext4 filesystem, something like `sudo mount /dev/sdb5 -t ext4 <path to mountpoint>`
[22:06] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: hrm? The R2 is what is listed on that page.
[22:07] <CountryfiedLinux> nacc, This page? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver–Release-Notes.aspx
[22:07] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: right, if you just run `mount` without any options, it looks in fstab -- but if you just need to quickly mount a disk and do something to it, you can just tell `mount` what to do
[22:07] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: no, the ubuntu certification page i pointed to
[22:07] <CountryfiedLinux> nacc, Oh ok. What does Ubuntu certification mean?
[22:08] <kenrin> Means it probably works with the open driver
[22:08] <CountryfiedLinux> But is the open driver as good as the proprietary driver? Or better?
[22:08] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: it means that Ubuntu is asserting that Ubuntu works on those machine listed (effectively Ubuntu-certified)
[22:09] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: you asked if the cpu was supported by Linux. It clearly is.
[22:09] <nacc> CountryfiedLinux: if you want to know if your *gpu* is supported by amdgpu-pro, you can refer to their page, as you did.
[22:09] <CountryfiedLinux> Graphics is what I was getting at.
[22:09] <CountryfiedLinux> Yes
[22:10] <CountryfiedLinux> Now I'm curious how the proprietary driver compares to the free one.
[22:10] <ThePortWhisperer> sudo mount /dev/sdb -t ext4 /tmp/sdb >>> mount: /dev/sdb is already mounted or /tmp/sdb busy <<<<< mount | grep sdb  <no results returned>
[22:10] <CountryfiedLinux> For 16.04 that is. If the free driver is really good I might get it and install a newer version.
[22:10] <Bashing-om> CountryfiedLinux: Currently there is no AMD proprietary driver . For the lastest generation cards there is a blop on top of the open source driver, however .
[22:10] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: not /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb5 if that is the partition you are trying to mount.
[22:10] <ThePortWhisperer> i tried that too, same results
[22:10] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: wait, your command makes no sense
[22:11] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: mount <dev path> -t ext4 <mount path>
[22:11] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: you can't mount a dev on itself
[22:11] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: e.g., you should use something like `sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/sdb5 -t ext4 /mnt/tmp`
[22:11] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: I do not recommend trying to guess (e.g., changing sdb5 to sdb) with sudo commands. Just ask here next time.
[22:15] <ThePortWhisperer> nacc, i had the same results with the precise command you sent
[22:16] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: can you pastebin the exact command you ran and output?
[22:17] <ThePortWhisperer> nacc, i can't copy and paste from this device because it has no mouse support enabled, but i've added it to this imgur post: http://imgur.com/a/aAsGp
[22:17] <ThePortWhisperer> it's at the very bottom
[22:17] <nacc> !pastebinit | ThePortWhisperer
[22:18] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: looking
[22:18] <kenrin> why are you trying to mount something that is already mounted
[22:18] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: mount in a pastebin (or imgur)
[22:18] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: as in the command `mount`
[22:19] <ThePortWhisperer> nacc, added to the same imgur link
[22:19] <ThePortWhisperer> if you refresh
[22:19] <crc32> How do I install Ubuntu Desktop onto a software raid 5. I'm asking cause the installer doesn't have the option for me to setup raid like the server iso does.
[22:19] <crc32> ?
[22:20] <kenrin> Just go to /dev/web/root it is mounted there already
[22:21] <thewillo> I gotta get some RAID going on.. the kind that mirrors 2 drives with 1 drive and can use the backup drive+the remaining drive to restore the failed drives data to a new drive
[22:21] <thewillo> which RAID is that one?
[22:21] <crc32> I use raid 5 so that I don't have to waste 2x disk space.
[22:21] <thewillo> I don't know anything about RAID other than that it uses multiple redundant drives in certain configurations which is good for data retention
[22:21] <crc32> thewillo your talking about raid 1. Mirror mode
[22:21] <thewillo> Yeah, that's what I want
[22:21] <nacc> thewillo: RAID is not a backup solution
[22:22] <thewillo> nacc I back up to 2 local pcs with 2 drives each, and rsync them with an off-site vps
[22:22] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: Looks from earlier output like sdb5 is a swap partition, and is currently in use. Do you know what swap is?
[22:22] <thewillo> I'm covered for backups, I just don't want to lose anything at all, what if I backed up an hour ago and did something amazing since then?
[22:23] <crc32> Anyways I usually set up Raid 5 for Servers and I have 3 drives on my Desktop. But ubuntu 16.04 for some insane reason doesn't allow me to configure raid install.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: Sorry, that was sda5. Never mind.
[22:23] <kenrin> crc32: It does if you use the alternate install disc
[22:23] <kenrin> As it says in the wiki
[22:23] <crc32> I mean the Desktop iso doesn't allow raid.
[22:24] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: seems like an odd situtation. It does appear that /dev/sdb5 itself isn't the disk you want, it's the PV containing two LVs (I think that's the right terminology).
[22:24] <ThePortWhisperer> Jordan_U, this is the HD from another VM, i'm just trying to change the IP in the  /etc/network/interfaces file
[22:24] <crc32> Is alI'll check again but l could have sworn alternate install only applied to Server installs.
[22:24] <ThePortWhisperer> i would like to edit that file and then pop this back in the other VM.
[22:24] <ThePortWhisperer> I added it to another VM and am having trouble accesssing it now.
[22:25] <kenrin> Well could be this page I'm looking at is out of date
[22:25] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: sdb5 doesn't directly contain a filesystem, it contains an LVM Physical volume. You need to mount the *logical* volume containing the fileystem, most likely /dev/mapper/web-root.
[22:25] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: what about the output of `ls -ahl /dev/disk/by-id` ?
[22:25] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: or as Jordan_U said, /dev/mapper might be the rigth spot
[22:26] <nacc> ThePortWhisperer: sorry for misleading you earlier, I didn't realize until I looked at your output that sdb5 was a PV
[22:26] <crc32> lvdisplay should show you if you have any file systems configured.
[22:26] <nacc> crc32: true
[22:28] <kenrin> Ah yeah,  the alternate cd ended with 14,  guess you'll have to setup raid before you do the install
[22:29] <ThePortWhisperer> nacc, Jordan_U thanks,  mounting /dev/mapper/web-root allowed me to access it
[22:30] <ThePortWhisperer> :) :) :)
[22:30] <Jordan_U> ThePortWhisperer: You're welcome :)
[22:30] <thewillo> I need alternate install CD... My SSD doesn't get detected properly because my UEFI firmware is not UEFI-compliant and it crashes libparted which crashes ubiquity and throws errors in gparted
[22:30] <thewillo> but I need 14.04 so I had one:D
[22:30] <thewillo> well, I don't need 14.04, but setting up my environment the way I need to is easy on 14.04
[22:31] <crc32> kenrin: \\ I did set up raid before I installed it but when I try to install the ISO I don't get any /deb/md partitions to install too.
[22:31] <trif55> oh, just make the boot volume a bit bigger he thought, plenty of space for it if I move the main partition right, well, no, KodiBuntu installed with LVM and even with the file system shrunk and the LV shrunk the PV wont shrink or move, gg
[22:31] <thewillo> I could use a newer version and have before but it takes a lot of messing around and googling for help
[22:34] <trif55> is there a way to upgrade one kernel at a time if my boot is too small?
[22:34] <crc32> Is there a way to get to a comand prompt during when I'm installing of the bootable Desktop ISO. I'd like to see if I can cat /proc/mdstat
[22:35] <crc32> These Install ISOs make me feel closterphobic
[22:35] <kenrin> Wow you are right crc32
[22:35] <kenrin> You should just do what I and probably everyone else does.  Use the server iso and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[22:36] <thewillo> trif55 yes, manually select that kernel version for install, then reboot and remove the previous one... apt-get install and apt-get remove
[22:36] <thewillo> don't forget to reboot before uninstalling the previous one... I'm not sure it actually matters, but since I don't know I suggest it as a precaution
[22:37] <crc32> I did that initially and my HD Graphics i630 driver borked out and everything I did GL wise seemed to be rendered in software mode. :(
[22:37] <trif55> oh, so I can just install 4.10? I'm on 3.13 and it keeps trying to install everything inbetween and flooding /boot
[22:38] <thewillo> oh, that's unfortunate, I've done it with the proprietary nvidia drivers and intel drivers installed... takes forever to generate the initramfs file for each kernel version installed when you add or remove a kernel
[22:38] <crc32> I was hoping a Desktop install would fix that. Also note that I had to disable the linux frame buffer just to get my display to work after the kernel loaded.
[22:38] <trif55> how do i tell which kernels I have installed?
[22:39] <crc32> why did ubuntu take away the ability to install Desktop on a raid system?
[22:39] <thewillo> yay, finally latest glibc, binutils, and gcc are all co-operating with eachother
[22:39] <thewillo> I've literally been trying different orders and build methods for over a day
[22:39] <trif55> well done!
[22:39] <thewillo> without sleeping
[22:40] <thewillo> I wish I made notes of how I made it work... Now I gotta go through my scrollback buffer a long way
[22:40] <thewillo> because, well, I need to be able to reconfigure the setup again
[22:40] <thewillo> I should dd an image of my root partition to prevent user error from ruining all my efforts
[22:42] <thewillo> there, imaging now... That should make it trivial to restore if I mess it up
[22:43] <thewillo> gotta love dd, I think it's one of the most useful commands in ubuntu's repo
[22:43] <thewillo> that and netcat
[22:44] <zeekhuge> on ubuntu16.04, I want to remove vim completely. I tried apt-get purge vim-* and then apt-get autoremove I am still able to use it
[22:44] <zeekhuge> how to remove it completely ?
[22:44] <crc32> so installing server then installing ubutu-desktop is the official way to install the desktop onto raid?
[22:44] <thewillo> is vim aliased to vi ?
[22:44] <zeekhuge> nope. its vim
[22:44] <zeekhuge> the executables are vim
[22:45] <zeekhuge> thewillo: ^
[22:45] <thewillo> interesting, well, I got no suggestions
[22:45] <crc32> this won't bork out the graphics drivers cause I really can't play any games when I do that. I get every bit of 4 frames per second.
[22:47] <trif55> oh dear, I tried the install of 4.10 straight and it ran out of space making the initramfs thingy
[22:48] <thewillo> trif55, how small is your /boot partition?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> trif55: ' df -h ' say where ?
[22:48] <crc32> will kernel 4.10 eventually get backported to ubuntu 16.04?
[22:48] <thewillo> I usually make mine 2gb, which is excessive but I've been on the other side of the fence where I have it too small and that's worse
[22:50] <trif55> like 200mb
[22:50] <trif55> blame KodiBuntu
[22:50] <thewillo> that's tiny
[22:50] <Bashing-om> !hwe | crc32
[22:50] <trif55> yea it's getting wiped tomorrow, I've got 17.04 on a usb at work that'll sort it tomorrow night
[22:52] <crc32> scary the instructions are different for hwe between server and desktop. If I initially intsall off server then switch to desktop will this break my system?
[22:53] <crc32> IE use hwe desktop on an initially installed server?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:57] <thewillo> hi sebsebseb
[22:57] <thewillo> what's up?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> nm u
[22:57] <thewillo> About to put the cpu cooler on my new computers CPU and boot it up
[22:57] <thewillo> excited
[23:19] <malkauns> godspeed!