[16:33] <installationrl> so is 8600/8800 detection by restricted-manager ok after updates?
[16:33] <installationrl> on feisty?
[16:33] <jerem> Y a t'il des french ici?
[16:33] <Jucato> !fr | jerem
[16:33] <ubotu> jerem: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:33] <LjL> osh_: downgrading is not quite supported
[16:33] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it should be enabled  by default. in System Settings ->Advanced -> Session Manager
[16:33] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: or you can use - export XAUTHORITY=/home/<whatever-yourusername-is/.Xauthority
[16:33] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it should be set to "Restore from previous session"
[16:34] <Flats> whats a good place to look for linux/ubuntu apps?
[16:34] <installationrl> look in the repos.
[16:34] <Flats> Tucows seems limited these days
[16:34] <Jucato> Flats: Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[16:34] <Jucato> Flats: Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages (apps + libraries)
[16:34] <Flats> well I mean organized with descriptions
[16:34] <jesse__> Flats: packages.ubuntu.com is also nice for finding the thousands of packages
[16:34] <Jucato> yes  of course they have descriptions
[16:34] <Flats> there we go.
[16:34] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: should 	I restart X
[16:35] <khumba-yo> ctw - have you checked the system preferences for proprietary drivers?
[16:35] <installationrl> ifg you want to go further afield or find inspiration, look in linux format, sourceforge and happypenguin.org  :)
[16:35] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: No should just work - try it
[16:35] <Jucato> Flats: there we go? packages.ubuntu.com is just an online service to view what you can view in Adept Manager
[16:35] <jeroenvrp> doesnt work
[16:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: it is but it still doesnt restore all of my themes :[
[16:35] <armadillo> i need driver for polaroid pdc 3030 for kubuntu, someone can help me?
[16:35] <jeroenvrp> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0
[16:35] <jeroenvrp> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[16:35] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ". For some themes you will also need to right mouse button click and reload the theme at least once after running it so that the config file will get written to your home directory."
[16:36]  * ScorpKing waves..
[16:36] <Flats> yes but it organizes it nice and neat
[16:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: lol i just read that haha
[16:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> let me try that
[16:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: how do i check if it got written into the folder
[16:37] <Jucato> Flats: have you even taken a look at Add/Remove Programs? it's not organized? it's not neat?
[16:37] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: um... I forgot :)
[16:37] <Flats> lemme see.
[16:37] <installationrl> add/remove programs seems exactly what you'd want tbh.
[16:37] <ScorpKing> if i do lshw i get --network UNCLAIMED (RTL-8139). eth0 is not there. how do i setup the card?
[16:37] <jesse__> Jucato : Add/Remove programs is fairly slow (IMHO) and there's a lot to be said for a web browser's "find in page"
[16:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: dang ill try figuring it out
[16:38] <installationrl> Woo!
[16:38] <Jucato> jesse__: true. well whatever..
[16:38] <Argh> re Ihr  .... :-)
[16:38] <Jucato> whatever floats his boat...
[16:38] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: I think it's ~/.superkaramba
[16:38] <Flats> actually it is pretty good.  The good thing about it is I can uninstall the junk I didn't even know was installed
[16:38] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: works fine here with just - sudo -i and then export XAUTHORITY=/home/samw/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:39] <Jucato> Flats: careful with what you categorize as "junk"
[16:39] <jeroenvrp> ah sudo -i
[16:39] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: read about the "mit magic cookie"
[16:39] <Jucato> just because you don't know what it is, doesn't mean it's not needed
[16:39] <VousDeux> so, if I 'sudo lshw' and the results do not show hardware I expected to see, how would I go about correcting that?
[16:39] <mauri_> khumba-yo: sorry, are you able to help me to configure my webcam
[16:39] <xenol> i got a question if i need to install codecs once again after upgrade to gutsy?
[16:39] <drama1981> anybody use radeon xpress 200 graphics?
[16:39] <Jucato> VousDeux: plain lshw doesn't work?
[16:40] <h3sp4wn> drama1981: No noone does (not even the people who use them)
[16:40] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: still doesnt work
[16:40] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - sorry, not sure, whats wrong ?
[16:40] <VousDeux> Jucato: what works better?
[16:40] <Jucato> VousDeux: I don't think you need sudo for lshw
[16:40] <VousDeux> Jucato: oh, that was a question...
[16:40] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: PEBCAK ( I have just tested it and it works 100% with gutsy and xterm )
[16:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: they're all written in there
[16:40] <VousDeux> Jucato: it warns me if I don't use sudo
[16:40] <Jucato> hm...
[16:40] <Jucato> weird
[16:40] <stephen> anyone can tell me how to enable compiz fusion in 7.10?
[16:41] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Uses some stuff in /proc that cannot be read by user
[16:41] <ToHellWithGA> when i run kcontrol things look normal.  when i run VirtualBox things look HUGE and unrefined.  do y'all have any ideas on that? http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/images/VirtualBox_Is_Big.jpg
[16:41] <juan> hello all! can anyone tell me how to configure konqueror as my default file manager?
[16:41] <Azzco> I really need some help here... I have no idea how to get my computer past "ISOLINUX 3.36 Debian-2007-08-30" I want a fresh install of kubuntu but I can't boot =(
[16:41] <VousDeux> "WARNING: you should run this program as super-user."
[16:41] <juan> instead of dolphin
[16:41] <Jucato> VousDeux: I see...
[16:41] <Jucato> !dolphin | juan
[16:41] <ubotu> juan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[16:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: but there isnt anything in my autostart folder
[16:42] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: that's ok
[16:42] <Jucato> session management will handle it automtically
[16:42] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: the Autostart folder is only for things you put in manually
[16:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[16:43] <mauri_> khumba-yo: it simple.....kubuntu didn't recognixe my webcam
[16:43] <claydoh> Jucato: do you ever sleep?
[16:43] <Jucato> claydoh: of course! in an hour or so :)
[16:43] <jesse__> Azzco : have you confirmed that the CD works in another computer?
[16:43] <Jucato> after 2 bottles :)
[16:43] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: I dont think its a PEBCAK
[16:44] <ScorpKing> Jucato: only 2? that's quick. :P
[16:44] <donsdw> How do I get Kubuntu to auto-login.  I am the only one using this computer.
[16:44] <claydoh> Jucato: cool you always seem to be here when I am awakew, and we are on opposite sides of the planet :)
[16:44] <stephen> anyone can tell me how to access network folderes?
[16:44] <VousDeux> it's pebkac
[16:44] <Jucato> claydoh: hehe :)
[16:44] <xenol> why does few things like OOo and video waching doesnt work after upgrade to gutsy?
[16:44] <Jucato> ScorpKing: yeah, I'm not into drinking much
[16:44] <shogun_> whois Jucato
[16:45] <claydoh> hehe
[16:45] <h3sp4wn> VousDeux: Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard
[16:45] <ScorpKing> lol
[16:45] <VousDeux> no, keyboard and chair
[16:45] <sebastian^> :)
[16:45] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - sorry, I never used a webcam :/
[16:45] <VousDeux> just yanking your chain
[16:45] <jeroenvrp> anyhow xhost +localhost is working
[16:45] <mauri_> khumba-yo: ok thanks however
[16:45] <stephen> is this the support channel for kubuntu or what?
[16:46] <buz> as opposed to?
[16:46] <Flats> OK I'm a trillian (windows) user for various IM clients.  Without having to go thru 30 different clients, any recommendations?  Pidgin seems decent but what seems to be the most popular?
[16:46] <khumba-yo> :)
[16:46] <Jucato> stephen: it is
[16:46] <buz> Flats: kopete
[16:46] <jeroenvrp> Flats: kopete
[16:46] <Jucato> Flats: in here? Kopete
[16:46] <Flats> wow
[16:46] <Flats> cool
[16:46] <jeroenvrp> your in kubuntu
[16:46] <Flats> yep
[16:46] <MarkC> i use pidgin
[16:46] <buz> try kopete then
[16:46] <claydoh> kopete for KDe lovers, pidgin is good too
[16:46] <stephen> how do i do to access network folders?
[16:46] <MarkC> popular seems to be just an opinion, unless you'll like to do a poll...
[16:46] <buz> stephen: what kind of network folders
[16:46] <jeroenvrp> you also have SIM
[16:46] <Flats> zZZthats kinda what I hoped for
[16:47] <jeroenvrp> if that is still alive
[16:47] <stephen> i have folders shared from my windows computer
[16:47] <Jucato> !best | Flats
[16:47] <ubotu> Flats: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[16:47] <xehnida> Kopete crashes when logging to MSN
[16:47] <stephen> i want to access from kubuntu'
[16:47] <buz> stephen: google for smb4k
[16:47] <leexgx> before i make an duplicate on bugs launchpad web site how do i move or add it into gusty list of bugs
[16:47] <Jucato> xehnida: that's just a new bug. the fix is already available
[16:47] <buz> or just install it with sudo aptitude install smb4k
[16:48] <stephen> thanks buz
[16:48] <MarkC> how do i know if my pc has bluetooth inside it?
[16:48] <leexgx> most do not
[16:48] <leexgx> MarkC:
[16:48] <buz> stephen: you may also try smb://IPofWindows/sharename but smb4k is more comfortable
[16:48] <MarkC> leexgx: ?
[16:48] <leexgx> MarkC: most do not have blue tooth only some laptops do
[16:48] <stephen> okie
[16:49] <buz> MarkC: try hcitool scan
[16:49] <buz> if it doesnt work you either dont have BT or its turned off
[16:49] <MarkC> oh, thanks buz
[16:50] <boubbin> anyone had proböems with kaffeine in gutsy ?
[16:50] <buz> boubbin: works splendidly for me
[16:50] <xehnida> i install the "fix" for Kopete, it still crashes
[16:50] <ctw> khumba-yo: I don't need a proprietary driver for graphics
[16:50] <ctw> khumba-yo: it runs on the i810 driver
[16:51] <boubbin> buz for me, it just loads and never opens. no error msg's when i run from terminal
[16:51] <buz> mhh thats weird
[16:51] <ccherrett> I recently lost all keyboard functions on my laptop when logged into kde. even on the external board
[16:51] <khumba-yo> ctw - sry, just a guess... ;)
[16:51] <ccherrett> I can type in kdm but in kde it is a no go
[16:52] <ctw> khumba-yo: thanks anyway :)
[16:52] <VousDeux> that's a good point...I should probably enable the bluetooth and the touch pad before running lshw
[16:52] <ccherrett> should I try regenerating the xorg file?
[16:52] <buz> ccherrett: if you're feeling adventureous sure
[16:52] <buz> but make backup of current one first
[16:53] <buz> it does sound like a kde issue though
[16:53] <shogun_> hey everyone, will it be a problem if i install new gutsy packages from adept? the upgrade installation stucked at 0%, so i closed it
[16:53] <stealth_> hi folks, i've installed the new gutsyGibbon release, and have problems with the startup, it takes 5 min. from grub to the login screen, what can it be? the pc is not really slow 2,2Ghz. Can somebody help please?
[16:53] <buz> shogun_: i would not mix feisty and gutsy packages
[16:53] <ccherrett> buz: hmm any thoughts on what to try?
[16:53] <mauri_> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[16:53] <jesse__> ccherrett: are your windows actually loading/drawing correctly?
[16:53] <ScorpKing> will the rtl8150 and rtl8187 modules work on a RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ card? can someone with that card check for me what they have loaded?
[16:53] <ccherrett> jesse__: yes
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> stealth_: take a look at dmesg
[16:54] <scheater6> stealth_: do you get a usplash (the kubuntu logo with a progress bar?_
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: will do
[16:54] <ccherrett> jesse__: I guess I could load flux to see if it is X or KDE
[16:54] <jesse__> ccherrett : damn, then you've got a different problem than me :P
[16:54] <ccherrett> :)
[16:54]  * ccherrett goes to load flux
[16:54] <stealth_> no there are no progress bar and no logo or something....
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: eh..... whats the problem?
[16:55] <khumba-yo> bye @ll
[16:55] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: keyboard stopped working in kde on the laptop
[16:56] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: external as well but only in kde
[16:56] <jesse__> ccherrett : try the "failsafe" session type as well
[16:56] <scheater6> stealth_: ah.  This is actually a common problem it gutsy.  A bug that's being worked on.  When the usplash doesn't show, then your computer goes into suspend before the KDM shows up.  But there's a pretty easy fix
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: odd
[16:56] <ccherrett> jesse__: failsafe works fine
[16:56] <mauri_> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[16:56] <ccherrett> jesse__: even the login scren works
[16:57] <jesse__> ccherrett : what kind of laptop is it?
[16:57] <darkox> how to install drivers for nvidia geforce mx5200?
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: I'm using the 8139too and 8139cp modules
[16:58] <ScorpKing> is there a package for it?
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: its in the kernel....
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> darkox: use the restricted-manager-kde
[16:58] <scheater6> stealth_: sry - trying to find the forum post with the instructions that fixed mine!  brb
[16:58] <ccherrett> jesse__: toshiba satellite
[16:58] <ScorpKing> i'm using xubuntu 7.04 an a box and it's not on the machine
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: you can't modprobe it?
[16:59] <damianos> hi
[16:59] <jesse__> ccherrett : I am sadly out of ideas; did your upgrade go smoothly?
[16:59] <damianos> Is there anybody who uses bluetooth ?
[16:59] <scheater6> stealth_: ah!  Got it, alright, ready?
[17:00] <voicu> if i want to learn about creating simple programs that access the internet, where should i start? i'd like to use C/C++
[17:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: your the best that fixed my problem
[17:00] <damianos> I have issue with pairing my mobile with PC
[17:00] <ScorpKing> nosrednaekim: i did. lshw say the card is unclaimed. i only have rtl8150 and rtl8187 modules on that box.
[17:00] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: great!
[17:00] <stealth_> yeah thanx ready...
[17:00] <VousDeux> enabling the bluetooth and the touch pad didn't seem to make a difference for lshw...they are still not shown
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: try making a new user.
[17:00] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: kde docs are great too!
[17:00] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: so is google :D
[17:00] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: root can type
[17:00] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: so it is a corruption in the .kde dir
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: you have root login enabled for KDE?
[17:00] <ccherrett> I will backup and snuff it'
[17:00] <damianos> ?
[17:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: but what about themes that i download from super karamba
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: back up your email and wipe it :)
[17:00] <damianos> where i can find kbluepin ?
[17:00] <spawn57> any of you having trouble logging onto msn using kopete using 7.10?
[17:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i add those to there? Jucato
[17:01] <damianos> for example ?
[17:01] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: you can startx in failsafe
[17:01] <damianos> in which pacage ?
[17:01] <scheater6> stealth_: check /etc/usplash.conf and make sure the x value is 1024 and the y value is 768
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: oh.. thats not root
[17:01]  * ccherrett goes on a snuffing fest!
[17:01] <xehnida> kopete fix = kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:01] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: same way, you just run them once then right-click to close them, run them again, and leave them open when you logout
[17:01] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: it says root
[17:01] <damianos> nobody uses bluetooth here ??
[17:01] <stealth_> yeah i will check...
[17:01] <jesse__> ccherrett : I had moved my .kde directory out of the way, and still couldn't type
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: really? oh ok >:(
[17:02] <LjL> !find kbluepin
[17:02] <jesse__> any other dot directories that might be causing the problem?
[17:02] <ubotu> Package/file kbluepin does not exist in gutsy
[17:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: thats not what fixed it i had to add to the autostart folder :[
[17:02] <damianos> ubotu: ?
[17:02] <LjL> damianos: seems you're out of luck
[17:02] <damianos> why ?
[17:02] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: oh... :(
[17:02] <scheater6> stealth_: then open (you'll have to use sudo) /etc/boot/menu.lst and find the kernel you're booting and add "vga=791" without the quotes to the end of that line
[17:02] <LjL> damianos: because it's not there?
[17:02] <damianos> so how can I pair my pc  and mobile phone
[17:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: its better then nothing
[17:02] <ccherrett> jesse__: did you relogin?
[17:02] <LjL> damianos: pair them to do what?
[17:02] <ccherrett> jesse__: kde rebuilds the dir on login
[17:02] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: they would probably be hiding somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba
[17:03] <damianos> kbluepin is used as pair_helper
[17:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[17:03] <Jucato> brb.. have to go
[17:03] <scheater6> stealth: and then "sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r`" without the quotes
[17:03] <LjL> damianos: are you sure? i don't seem to have kbluepin, but i can pair devices fine
[17:03] <damianos> so if there is now kbluepin so it must be something else
[17:03] <LjL> damianos: is kbluetooth started?
[17:03] <jesse__> ccherrett : I restarted kdm
[17:03] <damianos> yes
[17:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: your correct
[17:03] <aldevaran> hola alguien habla en castellano
[17:03] <damianos> can u help ?
[17:03] <scheater6> stealth_: if you care, or need to find these instructions again later. the bug is listed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/63558
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> !es
[17:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[17:04] <aldevaran> gracias
[17:04] <LjL> damianos: i don't know. i can start the pairing from the other device (don't know how to start it from kubuntu), and then i'm simply asked for the PIN in kubuntu.-
[17:04] <LjL> damianos: i assume you have the "bluetooth" package installed?
[17:04] <damianos> LjL: Kubuntu asking you for pin ?
[17:04] <ccherrett> jesse__: still no change?
[17:04] <LjL> damianos: yes
[17:05] <damianos> LjL: for sure kbluetooth is installed
[17:05] <LjL> damianos: "bluetooth", not "kbluetooth"
[17:05] <jesse__> okay, I just created a brand new user and logged in; cannot type and windows are not finishing loading
[17:05] <damianos> LjL: /etc/init.d/bluetooth is working
[17:06] <ScorpKing> jesse__: do you have any full disks?
[17:06] <LjL> damianos: so if you initiate pairing from your phone (or whatever), what happens?
[17:06] <ccherrett> jesse__: can you test it with an external board or a live cd?
[17:06] <ccherrett> where is kmail hiding it's mail?
[17:06] <damianos> LjL: wait a moment i have never started pairing form my mobile phone
[17:06] <ccherrett> .kde/share/apps/kmail?
[17:06] <ccherrett> empty
[17:06] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: .kde/share/apps/kmail
[17:06] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: empty
[17:06] <LjL> damianos: how do you start it from kubuntu? i never knew of a way
[17:06] <ccherrett> hmm
[17:07] <jesse__> ScorpKing : smallest partition still has 6Gigs free
[17:07] <ScorpKing> ok
[17:07] <jesse__> ccherrett : it's more the windows-not-loading problem for me
[17:07] <mrtimbo> how do i play encrypted dvds?
[17:07] <ScorpKing> maybe hot cpu?
[17:07] <firexdcc> mit kb geht das brennen nicht
[17:07] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: sorry idiot erro on my part :)
[17:07] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: did you set your mailDIR to something else?like ~/mail?
[17:07] <damianos> LjL: I have nokia 6021 it seems that i cannot pair it form my phone
[17:08] <LjL> !de | firexdcc
[17:08] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: looking at roots .kde :( </shame>
[17:08] <mrtimbo> how do i play encrypted dvds?
[17:08] <LjL> damianos: well, what does it say? does it at least discover your kubuntu machine?
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> heh :)
[17:08] <ubotu> firexdcc: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:08] <seriekrock> i have intstalled emerald, but i dont have any themes exept for one, how do i get more themes? i cant find emerald-themes in adept
[17:08] <jim__> Hi all, having some issues on my Dmesg with regards my CDROM which worked fine in 7.04 but in 7.10 I an't access it at all The message I get repeatedly is **hdb: status error: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
[17:09] <mrtimbo> how do i play encrypted dvds?
[17:09] <scheater6> stealth_: according to launchpad, a fix has been released, so check adept and see if you have an update to kubuntu-artwork-usplash or usplash-theme
[17:09] <LjL> !dvd
[17:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:09] <jerem> ya des french ici?
[17:09] <LjL> !fr | jerem
[17:09] <ubotu> jerem: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:09] <mrtimbo> thank you
[17:09] <jesse__> restating my problem: brand new user logs in, mouse is fine.  open Konsole from kmenu, the window is created but the menu/icons/tabs take between 1 and 2 minutes to render and for me to be able to start typing
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: hummmm do you have XGL installed?
[17:10] <VousDeux> it seems like konqueror should be able to switch between file management mode and web browsing mode depending on what has been entered into the address bar
[17:10] <jerem> french?
[17:10] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : dpkg --get-selections says no
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[17:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> VousDeux: I think it can
[17:11] <stealth_> big thanx @scheater i wanna try....
[17:11] <VousDeux> nosrednaekim: that does not seem to be the default behavior
[17:11] <jesse__> my problem occurs for konqueror and I assume all other apps as well
[17:11] <jerem> ya des french ici?
[17:12] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : Installed: (none)
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: hmm ok. could you possibly try installing another WM?
[17:12] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: it worked thanks
[17:12] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : 'failsafe' session type works fine
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ok...sweet
[17:12] <scheater6> jerem: nous parlons l'anglais
[17:12] <ScorpKing> lol
[17:13] <jim__> Actually I may have found the problem, could someone just confirm that this is WRONG - cheers - /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: ah.. right.
[17:13] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : will install/try fluxbox
[17:13] <scheater6> jerem: On parle le français dans *kubuntu-fr
[17:14] <ScorpKing> jim__: i don't think udf should be in there unless you read mac disks.
[17:14] <LjL> jerem has left ages ago, scheater6
[17:14] <scheater6> ljl: yea, just saw that.  I figured if he didn't get the ubot message I'd give telling him myself ago.  Thanks anyway
[17:14] <jim__> ScorpKing: Its the default from my install, it seems strange that it sets hdb as my cdrom and its noauto as well
[17:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ScorpKing:  should i install wine since i like to use adobe photoshop/americas army and other stuff
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: actually, there is a version of America's Army for linux
[17:15] <scheater6> wonder what happened to stealth_?
[17:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> AT0M1CB0MB3R: REALLY omg i loove that game
[17:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: help me out?
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> let me see if I can find it
[17:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> iloveyou
[17:17] <juan> i have a small problem, now when starting desktop effects at startup,it is the last thing it does, so it loads everything and then the screen goes black until it loads compiz and beryl
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/31/1658218
[17:17] <blendtux> yes juan
[17:17] <blendtux> and you want it to first start i guess juan
[17:17] <juan> yes
[17:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: your the best but will adobe photoshop run on linux
[17:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[17:18] <juan> any idea onhow to do this blendtux ?
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: only with wine
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> if then...
[17:19] <blendtux> i dont have no idea how to change it juan, but maybe you can go to the #beryl channel
[17:19] <_thomas> hi
[17:19] <juan> so it is normal, blendtux ?
[17:20] <blendtux> i dont know juan
[17:20] <juan> alroght, thanks for your hlp
[17:20] <_thomas> i've got a dual core cpu and I was testing it a bit, and i saw super_pi only uses one of the 2 cores, how can I set it to use both?
[17:21] <eljefe> hello, how can i charge my Mtotrola Razr off of the USB?  It used to work but now it doesn't, even though dmesg recognizes the plug-in of the phone
[17:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: but thats a oooooooooollllllllllllddddddddddd version
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> eh really?
[17:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: can i run a newer version?
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> prbably
[17:21] <spawn57> does kopete connect to msn on 7.10 for all of you?
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> bug 513500
[17:22] <eljefe> kopete and msn never seem to get along
[17:22] <_thomas> yeah, you just have to install a new kdelibs packet
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> spawn57: there is a bug in the current KDElibs
[17:22] <spawn57> hmm damn...wonder want's happening to me
[17:22] <_thomas> spawn57:
[17:22] <spawn57> nosrednaekim: got a link for me?
[17:22] <_thomas> 1 sec
[17:22] <jesse__> neat.  loaded icewm (new user).  WM starts just fine, xterm loads and can be typed in.  konsole takes >1min to load
[17:23] <jesse__> it appears my kde is somehow borked; how do I go about reinstalling it?
[17:23] <_thomas> the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:23] <_thomas> the thread: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[17:23] <_thomas> spawn57:
[17:24] <spawn57> _thomas: I can't see what you're writing =(
[17:24] <_thomas> [18:23] <_thomas> the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:24] <_thomas> [18:23] <_thomas> the thread: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[17:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: but can i download a new version for linux?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: humm
[17:24] <juli> hello, may sound odd but after a little bit messing around a question, someone running compiz on kubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: hmm doesn't seem like there is a newer version..
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> juli: yup
[17:25] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: any idea how to resore the account settings, incoming and outgoing in kmail from the backup?
[17:25] <_thomas> spawn57: just download the .deb and install it with gdebi
[17:25] <tuco_> Need to make my audigy2 notebook soundcard the default one on the laptop, tried same as for Feisty but it still won't work.
[17:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: its 2.8.2 the one yo gave me was 2.5
[17:25] <_thomas> i've got a dual core cpu and I was testing it a bit, and i saw super_pi only uses one of the 2 cores, how can I set it to use both?
[17:25] <spawn57> _thomas: got a link to this deb?
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: just replace the kmail DIR I would imagine
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yeah... so I see.
[17:26] <_thomas> spawn57: dude read up
[17:26] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: it just restored the mail :)
[17:26] <eljefe> hello, how can i charge my Motrola Razr off of the USB with my Kubuntu 7.04??  It used to work but now it doesn't, even though dmesg recognizes the plug-in of the phone
[17:26] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: left all settings out
[17:26] <_thomas> spawn57: the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:26] <tuco_> I type that: gksudo asoundconf set-default-card example_sndcard
[17:26] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: google time
[17:26] <juli> nosrednaekim installed compiz recently (worked on ubuntu), radeon driver for rs300 mobility radeon alrdy installed and running but dont really know where to activate compiz, typing "compiz" from console didnt work so far...
[17:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: now im sad
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: errr... hmm IDK... maybe it was in the kontact folder..
[17:27] <spimort> hi all
[17:27] <tuco_> and it gives me that:Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequences.
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> juli: do you have xgl installed?
[17:27] <eljefe> well i did nothing but it is working now
[17:27] <spawn57> _thomas: thanks man =]
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> tuco_: don'tworry about it ;)
[17:27] <juli> no, read that aiglx would be better, and alrdy a part of 7.10
[17:28] <juli> nosrednaekim (above)^^
[17:28] <hargibi> hey. I cant find the package beryl... Any update on that?
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yeah... sorry, thats the problem with linux... no big games.
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> juli: but is your card supported by it?
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> hargibi: its compiz-fusion now in gutsy
[17:29] <hargibi> ahh
[17:29] <hargibi> ok =)
[17:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: i wish i didnt have to have windows anymore I HATE IT and its taking up 500gb of space i could be using for linux
[17:29] <vrun> Hi Folks ... I desperately need your help on the upgrade to 7.10 :-(((  ... Distribution Upgrade hangs on "configuring kdeaddons-doc-html ... for 20min now :-(((
[17:29] <tuco_> It is recognized Nos same as in Feisty, only now I can't default it

[17:30] <tuco_> is there any specific commsnd to make it the default one?
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> tuco_: ask on #alsa
[17:30] <tuco_> what do I type?
[17:30] <juli> nosrednaekim should be (at least according to the list of aiglx) though im a bit confused about notebook sticker saying its a "9000IGP" (would not be supported) and lspci saying it would be 9100IGP (supported)...
[17:30] <lovre> hi. i was trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10, but i got some errors, some packages could not be installed for an unknown reason. Now it just stays on 2% of upgrade, and not moving.... why, how, what to do now
[17:31] <vrun> What's going to happen if I cancel the process ?
[17:31] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrive while I am in the livecd?  i need to copy some files over
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> juli: ok,my bro has the same chip, yes its supported by AIGLX
[17:31] <jesse__> what kdelibs version should I have installed after the gutsy upgrade?
[17:31] <vrun> lovre: I am on 61% - but I does hang there too :-/
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> juli: run "compiz --replace"
[17:31] <juli> nosrednaekim ty ill try
[17:32] <RytmenPinnen> is it hard to make /home its own partition?
[17:32] <lovre> vrun: but its done "Fetching the upgrades", its stuck on "Installing the upgrades"
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: no
[17:32] <lovre> vrun: wouldnt it be easy to install
[17:32] <lovre> im dissapointed
[17:32] <RytmenPinnen> k, I'd like to do that now, after lots of hassle, I ended up formating after all :/
[17:32] <vrun> Yup ... fetching was not problem ... and I wouldn't have worried
[17:33] <RytmenPinnen> so now I want to have /home as a separate partition
[17:33] <vrun> I am "scared"
[17:33] <LEE986321> hello
[17:33] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrive while I am in the livecd?  i need to copy some files over
[17:33] <davio> why whwn start beryl my dektop is white?
[17:33] <lovre> vrun: what to do now?
[17:33] <tuco_> Nos anything I need to do try to make the audigy2 the default card on my laptop?
[17:33] <juli> nosrednaekim there a paste service? getting an error message from the console...
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[17:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:33] <LEE986321> is Genii in here?
[17:33] <davio> why when start beryl my desktop is white?
[17:33] <lovre> i cant believe this could happen, a simple upgrade. I thougt that only windows have big problems with small operations
[17:33] <vrun> lovre: I simply do not know ... I am too scared to cancel the whole process... never happened to me before (and this is my third upgrade)
[17:34] <NickPresta> lovre, having bad luck with the Gutsy upgrade?
[17:34] <vrun> my third KUBUNTU update I should add
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> vrun: ah... all the fetching is done?
[17:34] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: do I do it in disk & Filesystems?
[17:34] <vrun> YES fetching went OK
[17:34] <lovre> NickPresta: yes, it stopped after some error messages.
[17:34] <NickPresta> lovre, mine did too...
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: are you on the livCD?
[17:34] <lovre> NickPresta: what did you do
[17:35] <vrun> Installing hangs at 61% and "kdeaddons-doc-html"
[17:35] <tuco_> Vrun...connect using a network cable, go get Wireless assistant from adept, configure it and then remove Knetwork manager. This is how I solved exactly the same problem.
[17:35] <juli> nosrednaekim http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41355/
[17:35] <NickPresta> I close the upgrade window, unlocked apt, and then ran `sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade` a few times until all upgrades were done.
[17:35] <RytmenPinnen> nope I ended up formating after all, turns out most of the /home folder had dissappeared when I tried to do some partitioning on my own through the installation program
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> vrun: then you can cancle that safely and run from the terminal "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:35] <LEE986321> hmm sounds like a bad cd try recording one at a slower speed
[17:35] <tuco_> Me now I just need to sort my sound card out.
[17:35] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: you got that? I allways forget puttin the name first
[17:35] <vrun> tuco: I am using a cable ... network is OK (as you can see me typing on THAT PC) ;-)
[17:36]  * LEE986321 puts a pot pie inthe micro
[17:36] <lovre> NickPresta: why is this happening?  Simple stuff that goes berserk when least expected. Now im dealing with the same shit on linux too :( :(
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: so you have it installed?
[17:36] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim:  yup
[17:36] <RytmenPinnen> fresh and clean
[17:36] <vrun> nosrednaekim: The warning I get  when trying to cancel is quite scary ...  :-/
[17:37] <NickPresta> lovre, despite this problem, this is a fairly isolated incident. I've upgraded from Dapper > Edgy > Feisty and now to Gutsy and this is the first time something like this has happened.  I wish I would've stayed with feisty.
[17:37] <vrun> OK .. so let's do it
[17:37] <lovre> NickPresta: there is no going back at this point?
[17:37] <LjL> lovre: wait, a distribution upgrade is a "small operation"? please reduce your expectations :) is upgrading from windows 2000 to XP a small operation?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> juli: hmm pastebin the results of "glxinfo" for me
[17:38] <vrun> nosrednaekim: "Configuring kdeaddons-doc-html"  ... time is not counting anymore ... or wait ... you mean the message ?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> vrun: yeah
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> the message
[17:38] <LEE986321> o who here wants to  help me set up my ati drivers now taht I have the PC seeing the ati card as a vessa?
[17:38] <tuco_> Ok Vrun. You have a wireless card on your pc?
[17:38] <lalalande> hi to the room.. i've rcently installed kubuntu and guarddog.now im having problems with konversation kopete korrent some help?
[17:39] <juli> nosrednaekim hmm shouldnt be, its what im getting when im doing "compiz --replace" in console
[17:39] <lovre> LjL: well, its not a small operation, ill give you that. But it is something that should go rather smoothly. Shouldnt it? I mean, doesnt every user want to be able to be up to date without having to spend sleepless night every time a new version is released?
[17:39] <vrun> The system could be in an unusable state if you cancel the upgrade. You are strongly adviced to resume the upgrade  ... "adviced" sic> _:-(
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> juli: no... I know... please pastebin the results of "glxinfo"
[17:39] <vrun> tuco_: NO WIRELESS on that PC
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> vrun: ah..ok... don't worry about it then... cancel it
[17:39] <juli> nosrednaekim on the way..
[17:40] <LjL> lovre, a new version is released only every six months. sure, we would all wish that upgrading were always smooth - but that's just not always the case as everyone's system is set up differently and there is plenty of things that may go wrong
[17:40] <vrun> OK ... I'll go for it
[17:40] <eljefe> lalalande: you can try using IPTraf (graphical-command-line app) to see which ports you need to open in Guarddog
[17:41] <tuco_> Ah OK. Well I could have helped you with wireless sorry.
[17:41] <vrun> lovre: Don't worry ... I have to work with win ... lotsa problems... KUBUNTU went fine ... until this incident ... I am hoping this is a freek one
[17:41] <vrun> THANKS GUYS
[17:41] <vrun> 'n gals
[17:41] <juan> what happened to the kbuntu forums?
[17:41] <lovre> LjL: i realise that. And if i were on linux for a long time i would probably be ok with it. But im just getting to know linux, and now this. A version upgrade that goes wrong. It sets me of, saying: linux is not at all that great.....
[17:41] <eljefe> juan: ??
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> vrun: ummm you know what you have to run now?
[17:41] <juli> nosrednaekim output of glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41356/
[17:42] <eljefe> lovre: windows upgrades stank too, it just that they were less often
[17:42] <mulander> lovre: people would tell you the same about xp to vista upgrades :)
[17:42] <LjL> lovre: if you thought linux was "great", then again, reduce your expectations. it's a decent free system.
[17:42] <tuco_> anyone who can lighten my solution to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158
[17:42] <eljefe> i prefer th e reinstall anyways, it makes me feel like everything is a bit cleaner
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> juli: no direct rendering.. there is your problem. run the restricted-manager-kde and see if it says there is a ATI driver available
[17:42] <juli> btw there a faster way putting peoples names in front of what you r saying when u want to adress someone specifically?
[17:42] <juan> when i try to access the kubuntu forums, i get :
[17:42] <juan> ERROR: Database error.
[17:42] <juan> Cannot execute the query: SELECT m.posterTime, m.subject, m.ID_TOPIC, m.ID_MEMBER, m.ID_MSG, m.ID_BOARD, IFNULL(mem.realName, m.posterName) AS posterName, t.ID_BOARD, t.numReplies, b.name AS bName, m.body, m.smileysEnabled, m.Icon, mem.avatar, av.filename FROM (smf_topics AS t, smf_messages AS m, smf_boards AS b)
[17:43] <vrun> norednaekim: Will run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  ... that OK ?
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> !tab | juli
[17:43] <ubotu> juli: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:43] <LjL> lovre: now anyway, what are you stuck at right now?
[17:43] <tuco_> Please someone help with my sound card. It is driven me banana!
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> vrun: yeah... and if that fails... just run it again and again
[17:43] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open...why
[17:43] <juli> nosrednaekim should i take the proprietary driver instead of radeon for sure?
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> juli: you can try it...
[17:43] <eljefe> juli in Konversation, you can type a few letters and hit [tab]
[17:44] <juli> tyvm all, makes life a lot easier ^^
[17:44] <lovre> Well, the problem is that i know windows suck. It sux so bad, and its update sux even worse! Its so bad i dont want to have anything to do with it anymore. So i look at my alternatives. There comes kubuntu. LInux. Is  there NO os that could just work? Is it much that im asking?
[17:44] <lovre> LjL: im stuck with installing the upgrades
[17:44] <vrun> norednaekim: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"   ... do I need to reboot ?
[17:45] <LjL> lovre: i don't think there is any usable operating system that give you 100%, or even 95%, certainty of a successful distribution upgrade without manual intervention, no.
[17:45] <eljefe> lovre: use the LTR (long term release) and just stick with the apps, but they do get outdated in the fast-moving world of FLOSS
[17:45] <juli> radeon driver supports graphics card according to lspci...
[17:45] <RytmenPinnen> lovre: you could allways try updating from CD Thats what I would've done if I knew what was going to happen to me when I did the network update :)
[17:45] <lovre> :)
[17:45] <LjL> lovre: can you give me a screenshot?
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | vrun
[17:45] <ubotu> vrun: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:45] <lovre> yes, wait
[17:46] <Jucato> claydoh: you still there?
[17:46] <claydoh> Jucato: yes i am
[17:47] <tysonsw> can someone give me a tip were I can get a good windows app?
[17:47] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: lets get down to bussiness with that partitioning :) if you got time I'm not in a hurry
[17:47] <Jucato> claydoh: what happened to kubuntuforums?
[17:47] <vrun> nosrednaekim: merci  - works ... or better "dist-upgrade has started again now"  :-)
[17:47] <juli> nosrednaekim: there is no other driver available for my card, initially he recognised the graphics card as RS300 but put "ati" driver in xorg.conf
[17:47] <claydoh> Jucato: dunno (as usual)
[17:47] <vrun> Anyone know what "package: ggzd" is ... it faild to install or upgrade
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: it would probably be easier if you just did it from the liveCD and installed again.
[17:47] <newsense07> i have vista installed on another partition :( and wnat to run ie in linux, will wine run ie ?
[17:47] <Jucato> claydoh: hehehe! it's down (which is surprising...)
[17:47] <RytmenPinnen> :o
[17:47] <claydoh> was down, looks like it is being recovered as I get some pages, but some bd errors
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> juli: huh. well seems you are stuck with no direct rendering... thank ATI
[17:48] <lovre> LjL: it showd some errors, it couldnt install some packages. Then its just like this: http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc86/kDevious/snapshot11.png
[17:48] <LEE986321> ok i am installing the river using this method how ever I was told to use guttsy when ever feisty pops  some on e want o help me through this?
[17:48] <Jucato> claydoh: Can't open file: 'smf_members.MYI' (errno: 145)
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: yes, it will
[17:48] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/
[17:48] <Jucato> claydoh: hm.... ok.. thanks anyway :)
[17:48] <Jucato> peace
[17:48] <tysonsw> can someone give me a tip were I can get a good windows app?
[17:48] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: thanks
[17:48] <tuco_> Anyone having issues with audigy2 sound card in gutsy?
[17:48] <LjL> lovre: uhm, pastebin /var/log/dpkg.log (at least the last 100 or so lines of it)
[17:48] <juli> nosrednaekim: :-(( grrr ATI, ill try to look around for a solution tyvm so far!!!
[17:49] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open...why
[17:49] <claydoh> Jucato: yeah, i get that currently, earlier I got nothing, then a page or 2, then a more detailed error. I hink files are being re-uploaded
[17:49] <vrun> tuco_: Will let you know once I get there :-)
[17:49] <LjL> lovre: i assume now the HD doesn't seem to be crunching at all?
[17:49] <lovre> no
[17:49] <Jucato> claydoh: I hope everything's ok :)
[17:49] <LEE986321> juli if its ati x300 look at my bin also make sure if there in 64 bit mode that they have vessa in place of ati
[17:50] <LEE986321> juli http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/
[17:50] <tuco_> Ok Vrun thanks for that
[17:50] <claydoh> Jucato: me too
[17:50] <LEE986321> juli does hat help? I just need help folowing the directiosn
[17:50] <claydoh> sat is one of the few times I can try some actual forum mod work/tech support
[17:50] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: do you know how i could get wine to use my vista dlls rather than creating a ~/.wine folder and copying its own dlls there ?
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: no... and don't ever use vista dll's with wine
[17:51] <lovre> LjL: here is the whole day: http://pastebin.com/m6927678b
[17:51] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: lol i had a hunch that wpould be the answer , cool thanks
[17:51] <[ifr0g]> So any one who did not have a successful upgrade ?
[17:51] <Hamra> can i like add a folder to apt-get's path? so that it would search it first for packages then download if the pack. isnt there?
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> vrun: is the upgrade still going?
[17:52] <vrun> yup
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: probably a good idea to never use Vista period ;)
[17:52] <LEE986321> hmm I have the upgrade but my PC keeps trying to upgrade  lol
[17:52] <vrun> YES... stay away from VISTA as long as you can !!!

[17:52] <jesse__> Hamra: odds are you want to use dpkg -i somepachage.deb instead
[17:52] <juli> LEE986321: no notebook sticker saying its a mobility radeon 9000, lspci saying rs300 mobility radeon 9100 IGP
[17:52] <LjL> lovre: so it stopped doing anything after 17.34?
[17:52] <LEE986321> Vista is the apittamy of all software
[17:52] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: used it about ten times since i bought it, i need ie for some sites though and was planning on gaming on it but i need more ram or something
[17:52] <jesse__> Hamra : or whatever the right-click action is in kubuntu these days
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: lol
[17:53] <seriekrock> anyone knows where i can find addon for xfire in pidgin or kopete?
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: yes, and it is 18:53 now
[17:53] <seriekrock> !xfire
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <LjL> lovre: kill it
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: long time
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: ok
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: killed. what now...
[17:53] <ariane> hi. i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and the nvidia drivers for graphic acceleration and i wanted to know how do i activate compiz fusion ? it is supposed to be installed by default with the 7.10 right ? could someone help me with this please ?
[17:53] <LjL> lovre: do you have any third-party repositories enabled, or third-party packages installed? if unsure, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: should i format my disk and install again?
[17:53] <LEE986321> juli ergles sorry hmmm, may this can work wi th other drivers just substitue th x 300 for the others
[17:54] <[ifr0g]> so does gutsy dvd come with compiz ?
[17:54] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open..
[17:54] <lovre> LjL: im not sure, so here you go: http://pastebin.com/m5d44ca49
[17:54] <juli> LEE986321: hmm trying perhaps or seeing around who else having the notebook card and probs with it
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> ariane: its not instaled by default, get it with "sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager"
[17:55] <ariane> nosrednaekim: oh well, thanks a lot.
[17:55] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: let me guess, vistas version of ie doesnt work in wine does it ?
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: nope.
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> on 4 and 6 I think
[17:55] <Kr4t05> Okay... For some reason, when I upgraded to Gutsy, I didn't get Dolphin as my default file manager.
[17:55] <Kr4t05> It still opens Konqueror...
[17:55] <LjL> lovre: i strongly suggest that you remove like 44 (gutsy-proposed). then "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:56] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: can i dl ie and install it using wine ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> !ie4linux | newsense07
[17:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:56] <lovre> LjL: why is this: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[17:56] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: i appreciate all your help, i never had a use for windows till now and i dont want to run it
[17:56] <ubuntu__> does anyone know how to access folders of a previous installation from the kubuntu livecd?  i am trying to copy over kmail email and korganizer settings from my previous installation
[17:56] <LjL> lovre: because not having kubuntu-desktop installed may seriously harm your upgrading - so, best to make sure it's installed, just in case.
[17:56] <[ifr0g]> newsense07, pls dont. Use ies4linux instead.
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> !info ie4linux
[17:56] <ubotu> Package ie4linux does not exist in gutsy
[17:57] <newsense07> oh man
[17:57] <lovre> LjL: sory for being dumb, but what is kubuntu-desktop? and why dont i have it installed :S
[17:57] <LjL> !kubuntu-desktop | lovre
[17:57] <ubotu> lovre: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> !info ies4linux
[17:57] <ubotu> Package ies4linux does not exist in gutsy
[17:57] <[ifr0g]> !compiz-fusion
[17:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[17:57] <newsense07> guess i could load an iso of vista in vmware right
[17:57] <LjL> lovre: i didn't say that you don't have it installed - i'm just saying it *might* not be, so better make sure
[17:57] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open..
[17:57] <LjL> !bot
[17:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:57] <LjL> !ies4linux
[17:57] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[17:57] <[ifr0g]> awesome.
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> thanks LjL
[17:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: can you help me with something else?
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: depends...ask :)
[17:58] <[ifr0g]> :)
[17:58] <Kr4t05> Gee, I forgot the kubuntu-desktop part of upgrading. :P
[17:58] <newsense07> cool, thanks everyone, im gonna give ies4linux a try than delete the vista partition all together
[17:58] <LjL> Kr4t05: if you use the update manager, that shouldn't be an issue as it's done automatically
[17:58] <tysonsw> kan someone help me with how I should install firefox on kubuntu???
[17:58] <Kr4t05> LjL: I couldn't... I kept crashing on me.
[17:59] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, adept
[17:59] <Kr4t05> tysonsw: What he said.
[17:59] <K7> hi! i've intel pro wireless 3945 , and alice w-gate plus 2 as modem/router! can someone help me to connect ?
[17:59] <tysonsw> ifr0g adept??
[17:59] <tysonsw> ifr0g sorry linux newbie
[17:59] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, k-menu > system > adept
[17:59] <Dr_willis> !adept
[17:59] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[17:59] <ubuntu__> does anyone know how to access folders of a previous installation from the kubuntu livecd?  i am trying to copy over kmail email and korganizer settings from my previous installation
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: mount the drive..
[18:00] <vrun> tysonsw:  use ADEPT ... i.e. klick Kubuntu icon klick SYSTEM, klick ADEPT
[18:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: my firefox crashes when i try to watch a video with mplayer is there a way to make VLC player default player for mpeg/wmv files
[18:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[18:00] <[ifr0g]> lol
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: there MAY be...I don't use VLC so i'm not sure
[18:00] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: i have mounted the drive... but certain hidden folders are locked and say i do not have permission.... such as ~/.kde
[18:00] <LjL> !mount | ubuntu__
[18:00] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[18:01] <LjL> ubuntu__: use sudo.
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> ubotu: use sudo -i
[18:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about use sudo -i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__:  use sudo -i
[18:01] <LEE986321> eh can some one help me with the follwing direction?
[18:01] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/
[18:01] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: is there a way to sudo the dolphin manager?
[18:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: if i uninstall every other player would that work?
[18:02] <LjL> !kdesudo | ubuntu__
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: "kdesu d3lphin"
[18:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesudo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:02] <LjL> !kdesudo is <alias> kdesu
[18:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[18:02] <LjL> nosrednaekim: kdesudo in gutsy
[18:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !kdesu
[18:02] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesu » to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: no
[18:02] <tuco_> Let me know when you can help me Vrun ok!
[18:02] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: i get "command not found"
[18:02] <lovre> LjL: i get this error when trying to install kubuntu desktop: http://pastebin.com/m423494cc
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: "kdesudo d3lphin"
[18:03] <LjL> !no kdesu is <reply> In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[18:03] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[18:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !mpeg
[18:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:03] <newsense07> ies4linux worked great for me, man i love this channel
[18:03] <vrun> norednaekim:  I'M DONE ... only error remaining ist "ggzd"  ... GOING TO REBOOT now  x-ing fingers !!!
[18:03] <vrun> bye
[18:03] <LjL> lovre, you have not killed everything. pastebin "ps aux"
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> vrun: good luck!
[18:03] <vrun> :-)
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: we try :)
[18:04] <tuco_> Anybody having a problem with their sound card in Gutsy! I am trying to have my audigy2 the card by default but I can't.
[18:04] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim hey they there I fonaly figuresd out that issue
[18:04] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[18:04] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: it worked.... thank you.
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: yeah?
[18:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: OMG I LOVE YOU
[18:04] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: man your batting 100 today
[18:04] <lovre> LjL: here: http://pastebin.com/meee02c9
[18:04] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, i love you too
[18:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: :]
[18:04] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim yeah I had to change the ati drover to vessa in the 64 bit mode, but I still need help with the directions
[18:04] <giuseppe> hi all anybody knows how to install ubuntu on raid 0?
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: lol
[18:05] <tysonsw> ifr0g thx for the help with adept.. love that program
[18:05] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/ <<<<<those direcions
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: instructions for what..
[18:05] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, yup, me too. But try to learn about apt-get too..
[18:05] <tuco_> Please kind people...this is doing my head in!
[18:05] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim for my ati I was told to replace gutsys with fiesty
[18:05] <[ifr0g]> :)
[18:05] <tysonsw> ifr0g ok.. what is the difernce beetwn them+
[18:06] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, do you like typing commands ?
[18:06] <LjL> lovre: it got cut off... use a bigger terminal, or do "ps ax" instead
[18:06] <tysonsw> ifr0g not wo mutch.. but it could be good to learn
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: may I ask why you are not using the packages in the repositories?
[18:06] <lovre> LjL: http://pastebin.com/m5463578b
[18:06] <Dr_willis> learn the shell.. JUST do it! :)
[18:07] <Dr_willis> your patience will be rewarded
[18:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: it says its installed already
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: its useful if you want to install something from the command line (i.e. if KDE crashes)
[18:07] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim because of the ill fated BLOSD
[18:07] <tuco_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:08] <tuco_> I am going crazy damn it!
[18:08] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim or should it work now that I hcanged to vessa?
[18:08] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, huh, ok then uninstall  mozilla-mplayer
[18:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i just did
[18:08] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim okej..
[18:08] <LjL> lovre: sudo kill -s 9 7683 7837 10166
[18:08] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, i know this channel can be bad..
[18:08] <LjL> !adept crash fix | lovre, and if it still doesn't work
[18:08] <ubotu> lovre, and if it still doesn't work: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:08] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim and then the other question is how do I get the repos?
[18:09] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, its cause no one likes sound problems.. cause most of us dont have it. :D
[18:09] <tuco_> :-(
[18:09] <inaety> Hello I just installed Gutsy, however, Kopete doesn't have smooth scrolling before? on Feisty it was nice and smooth scrolling, now it's boring
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: what repositories?
[18:09] <lovre> LjL: done, what now
[18:09] <tuco_> It was working fine in feisty not there is no sound coming out of the speakers
[18:09] <mic> since my update to gudsy my kopete crash if a try to connect MSN network. It's the amd64 version, any suggestions?
[18:09] <tuco_> I have checked everything
[18:09] <LjL> lovre: now see if the apt-get stuff works
[18:09] <lovre> ok
[18:09] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, try giving more info on your card type and the problem in detail.
[18:09] <LEE986321> the ones for my ati drivers
[18:10] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim the aaati
[18:10] <tuco_> I have an duo core laptop...with intel onboard sound and an audigy 2 notebook sound card. I want the audigy 2 to be the default one not the intel onboard one.
[18:10] <Pete^_> I can't get my multimedia buttons to work in Toshiba Equium A100 Laptop, any ideas?
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: for the ones you are installing, there IS no repository
[18:10] <apollo2011> hi everyone. I ran through the procedure to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using the Update Manager, and it downloaded everything it needed, started applying the packages, and I checked on it every once in a while to make sure no messages had come up and the progress bar showed it was about halfway when I got a bunch of messages saying programs quit unexpectedly and then a message saying the update had been aborted. Now I can't get apt to show that any
[18:10] <apollo2011>  more packages need to be installed, but I presume the update manager was only half done. Anyone know what the problem is or what I need to do to complete the update?
[18:10]  * seriekrock is away: Borta för tillfället.
[18:11] <tuco_> The card is recognized so far
[18:11] <rand_acs> mic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29
[18:11] <ariane> all compiz fusion plugins are running except the cube. is it a bug or did i made a mistake while configuring compiz fusion ?
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: BTW... what model of graphics card do you have?
[18:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know a website with mpeg videos on it
[18:11] <rand_acs> mic: that fixes the Kopete problem I believe
[18:11] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim x 300
[18:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so i can test out this plugin
[18:11] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, maybe if there is some way you could disable the onboard on in the bios. it might switch.
[18:11] <mic> rand_acs: thanks
[18:11] <tuco_> I can't it is a laptop frog
[18:11] <Dr_willis> I still dont see how the cube makes  things more efficnent. :)
[18:11] <tuco_> but it was fine with Feisty
[18:11] <rand_acs> does anyone have access to ubotu?
[18:12] <rand_acs> that link should be added imo
[18:12] <LEE986321> after kicking in the vessa the screen flipped to a way better pitcture then  i restared
[18:12] <[ifr0g]> !sdkfsjdhf
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdkfsjdhf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <LEE986321> im running in 64 bit mode
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: ok
[18:12] <tuco_> I use the follow this step: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_change_the_default_soundcard
[18:12] <[ifr0g]> raddy_, http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi they have inst there..
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> rand_acs: lol
[18:12] <lovre> LjL: im getting this error when trying to dist-update: http://pastebin.com/m628099f8
[18:13] <lovre> LjL: :(
[18:13] <Stonki> hello, I just install kubunto 7.10 to replace my former gentoo installation. How do I enable compiz by default ?
[18:13] <rand_acs> nosrednaekim: hey it get's asked like every 15min :)
[18:13] <LjL> lovre: do as it says, sudo apt-get -f install
[18:13] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:13] <[ifr0g]> Stonki, cool so it comes by default ?
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: can't you just stay with vesa?I doubt manually installing will get you anywhere
[18:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:13] <lalalande> how can i erase a cd-rw from k3b?
[18:14] <apollo2011> Can I reboot safely if the update manager appears to have crashed halfway through the upgrade procedure but apt doesn't show any packages that need to be updated?
[18:14] <Stonki> ubotu: thanks
[18:14] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: do you know a website with mpeg/wmv videos on it
[18:14] <mic> rand_acs: yes it's working now, thx
[18:14] <rand_acs> mic: awesome :)
[18:14] <[ifr0g]> lovre, they have given you tips there.. try them
[18:14] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, regarding ?
[18:14] <mic> yes...
[18:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i want to test the plugin
[18:14] <mic> now i've just to get gudsy working on my ps3
[18:14] <tysonsw> I need some help with my aticonfig.. after I installed the program it sais that I should do a aticonfig. when I do that I only get a error:
[18:15] <joaquin30> hey there -- Beryl was super fast in Feisty, but now it all goes so slowly ...
[18:15] <Kr4t05> Okay... I've upgraded as properly as I can, but Konqueror is still acting as the default file manager.
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> apollo2011: run a "apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure
[18:15] <mic> ubuntu installation breaks at 82%... "cannot reach / find the mirror server releases". seems that it does not bring eth0 up
[18:15] <ardchoille> I open kate as user and make a change to the config. Then I open kate with kdesu and noticed that same change has been made. Does kate not separate user account?
[18:15] <tuco_> anybody who want to help: here is this error message I get in the terminal http://pastebin.com/m595299a1
[18:15] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, http://www-eng-x.llnl.gov/documents/tests/mpeg.html
[18:15] <lovre> LjL: its working now. ill be back later with report :) i hope everything will go right. Thank you very much, i owe you a beer!
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: eh... you  should install the ATI drivers from the restricted-manager
[18:16] <johey> So, I frecked up my Feisty to Gutsy upgrade and now I'm about to do a fresh install. Is it anything to think of? I have backed up /home and /etc. How about my mySQL databases?
[18:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: tells me to install missing plugins
[18:16] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim where can i find it?
[18:16] <apollo2011> nosrednaekim: yeah i did that and it doesn't come back with anything that it needs to do
[18:16] <lovre> LjL: i have a problem allready
[18:16] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim eh I kinda need the 3d stuff
[18:16] <lovre> LjL: http://pastebin.com/m5feb35a5
[18:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: nvm i think i fixed it
[18:16] <lovre> LjL: what to do
[18:16] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, i would sugest not to run as root cause it says soo..
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> apollo2011: then you should be good
[18:16] <tuco_> How can I do that Frog?
[18:16] <apollo2011> nosrednaekim: k i'll give it a shot
[18:16] <[ifr0g]> :)
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: was it working on fiesty?
[18:17] <apollo2011> thanks
[18:17] <jesse__> woot, fixed my problem!  turns out that during the upgrade, the `scim` package got uninstalled
[18:17] <tuco_> I used to do the same in feisty and it worked
[18:17] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim eh I kinda need the 3d stuff
[18:17] <LjL> lovre: that's ok
[18:17] <jesse__> reinstalling it has restored KDe to working condition.
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: ah!
[18:17] <lovre> LjL: how do i do what it says?
[18:17] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim yes how ever with the minor glitch that it was only using 32 mb of my cards ram
[18:17] <LjL> lovre: a reboot will do when you're finished, or « sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart » from a linux terminal (but don't do it now)
[18:17] <wesley> how can i best install compiz? sudo apt-get install comiz ?
[18:17] <lovre> LjL: ok, thanx
[18:18] <Kr4t05> wesley: That's about all there is to it. :)
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: then *I* would go back to fiesty
[18:18] <mic> wesley: yes
[18:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: fixed thanks
[18:18] <lalalande> how can i erase a cd-rw from k3b?
[18:18] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim where can i find restricted-manager?
[18:18] <LEE986321> hmmm
[18:18] <Kr4t05> lalalande: Tools -> Erase CD-RW
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: system setting-> advanced
[18:18] <[ifr0g]> johey, like your bookmarks or etc dir if you did any manual changes..
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: in the kmenu
[18:18] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim hates 32 bit
[18:18] <installationrl> Considering the DRASTIC things people change their power management settings to avoid, is it strictly wise to switch them back on, on the quiet, with updates?
[18:18] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, np
[18:18] <LEE986321> lol
[18:18] <lalalande> ..oh
[18:19] <jesse__> anyone know if laptop-mode is actually enabled by default in gutsy?
[18:19] <Kr4t05> lalalande: It's okay. :)
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: but uninstall those drivers that you were manually installing...
[18:19] <installationrl> I mean it's easier to just ignore it, unless you're the girl whose computer gets fried.
[18:19] <RytmenPinnen> jesse__: I'd say most likely not
[18:20] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: what does laptop mode entail ?
[18:20] <johey> [ifr0g]: I have backed up /home and /etc. I think I have backed up what I need except my mySQL databases.
[18:20] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: running the ondemand governor and changing it back if you are not logged into X ?
[18:20] <jesse__> h3sp4wn : it's tweaks for power management, mostly
[18:20] <don_> Hi, having a problem with the new Gutsy 7.10..
[18:21] <RytmenPinnen> don_: lets hear it
[18:21] <tuco_> I am giving up...going back to feisty.
[18:21] <bojan> hello, I just installed Gutsy (clean install from CD) on my slave drive. How do I mount my NTFS partition on my primary drive?  If I try to do it using Dolphin I get an error: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused UID 1000"?
[18:21] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: 5.10 has better power management if you leave the default config than gutsy
[18:21] <installationrl> Even a big on-screen dialog saying ****YOUR CHANGES TO POWER MANAGEMENT SETTINGS HAVE BEEN RESET**** wouldn't be going too far tbh.
[18:21] <mic> hmm very friendly channel
[18:21] <mic> just a liittle bit too fast for me
[18:21] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: sry I am a real noob.. how do I unistall?
[18:21] <don_> OK< first, I did the upgrade thing, thru the net, after getting all 7.04 updates ( I read the instructions)  restarted after upgrade, was missing the kernel xx.22..  somehow
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: you ran the .run file, right?
[18:22] <bojan> by primary I meant master I'ts my windows install. I used to have Breezy before this, and I was able to mount my windows drive as Read only, although I forgot how I got it to work.
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> mic: sorry
[18:22] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: yepp
[18:22] <don_> so I downloaded and burned a CD of 7.10 Kubuntu from website, just installed it, all seemed fine, except my menuing
[18:22] <don_> for example, when I click on System, it gives a bunch of info, besides the name of the App
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: when it finished,it should have printed out a message about a location from which you could uninstall it... something like /usr/bin/ati or something
[18:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> How do i uninstall win
[18:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wine
[18:23] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  how did you install it?
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> don_: that sounds like GNOME
[18:23] <don_> "Entries in K-Menu Adept Package Manager".   stuff like that for every app
[18:23] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, apt-get remove --purge wine
[18:23] <mic> nosrednaekim: ?
[18:23] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, better answer Dr_willis .. first
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> mic: sorry its too fast.... did you get lost in the scrollback?
[18:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: btw whats --purge meen
[18:23] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: no.. it only stated were I colud get the config file
[18:24] <mic> nosrednaekim: no ;)
[18:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: im ignoring him
[18:24] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: if I remember correct
[18:24] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, remove the config files as well.
[18:24] <mic> (not yet) - indeed
[18:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: Oh
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: hmmmm I think it has something else... run it again,
[18:24] <velvetfinchen> nabend zusammen
[18:24] <lalalande> every time i boot up kubuntu a get a message like: ..801] PCI:Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000 :00 :1c.0
[18:24] <don_> Gnome?     I doesn't like Gnome, LOL
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: it may be printed to the command line
[18:24] <lalalande> what is this?
[18:24] <don_> that's why I got Kubuntu
[18:24]  * Dr_willis loves being ignored...
[18:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what did Dr_willis say?
[18:24] <[ifr0g]> Awwee.
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> lalalande: don't worry about it... normal kernel messages
[18:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: im not ignoring you anymore :[
[18:25] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  how did you install it?
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> don_: could you give a screen shot?
[18:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: you were jsut being meen yesterday
[18:25] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: Want a cookie ? (mit-magic-cookie)
[18:25] <velvetfinchen> oha deutsch gehört hir gar nidd her als sprachen *gg
[18:25] <Dr_willis> I was? never noticed..
[18:25] <[ifr0g]> lol
[18:25] <don_> I'll sure try, one sec.....
[18:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: from the system settings menu
[18:25] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know some of the... people i was having a heated discussion with in other channels. :)
[18:26] <Dr_willis> Fire up the package manager and 'unselect' it - should work.
[18:26] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: the installation only state were the log file is
[18:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: [ifr0g] helped me already
[18:26] <lalalande> but it takes about 2 min to boot up.. is this normal my pc is not old
[18:26] <lalalande> ?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: hmm ok, could you run "cat <path to log file>"in the terminal and pastebin it?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> lalalande: are you sure tats the only error?
[18:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: the reason i uninstalled it is cause it doesnt notice my other harddrive (the one with windows on it)
[18:27] <tysonsw> cat /usr/share/ati
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> lalalande: do "alt-f2" on boot and see what it hangs on.
[18:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Why does it need to notice the windows hard drive? wine dosent need a windows drive.
[18:27] <lee__> eh ok whats the comand line  for getting Xine ?
[18:27] <lalalande> hangs on?
[18:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: yes it does
[18:28] <tysonsw> nosrednaekimhow do you mean pastebin?
[18:28] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, which guide did you follow ?
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ah..there we go... in the terminal type "cd /usr/share/ati"
[18:28] <don_> OK< got it, finally...
[18:28] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  Huh? you trying to run a windows app from the windows drive? or what?
[18:28] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  you can run wine with no windoes installed at all.
[18:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i didnt i just installed from system settings advanced menu
[18:28] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, Dr_willis is right ^
[18:28] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: ok..
[18:28] <tysonsw> now what+
[18:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: it made a fake windows drive when i already have a windows drive which i rather have it use
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: run "ls". there should be a file in there called "uninstall.sh" or something like that
[18:29] <serega> Hello, guys! I'm just from HelpingKubuntu wiki. I wish to help kubuntu with my programming skills. I'm senior C++ developer with some experience of Qt
[18:29] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: yes.. fglrx-uninstall.sh
[18:30] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  theres a wine config file then that you should change . by default wine uses the 'fake windows drive' in .wine/windows_drive or somthing like that.
[18:30]  * Dr_willis installs wine to check
[18:30] <Kr4t05> Can anyone help me figure out why Dolphin didn't step in as the default file manager when I upgraded.
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: run "sudo sh fglrx-uninstall.dh"
[18:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: yeah it does
[18:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: but i dont want a fake one i rather have it use my real one
[18:30] <Dr_willis> but it all depends on the specifics of what you are doing I guess.
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: you have to associate dolphin with the inode/folder MIMEtype
[18:30] <Dr_willis> using the 'real one' has totally trashed windows on me in the past.
[18:31] <don_> OK, how do I send it to you, nored?
[18:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: oh :[
[18:31] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  you are proberly better off  by reinstalling the windows apps you wish to use with wine.
[18:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: i dont really care i guess
[18:31] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: .dh didn't work but sh did
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> don_: hmmm good question.
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: sorry... typo :)
[18:31] <ardchoille> How come making a change to an app's config as user automatically makes the same change the that app's config for root?
[18:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: im just going to copy the stuff i need from windows to my linux partion
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: it ran and uninstalled it?
[18:31] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Thanks
[18:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: its a 500gb harddrive being wasted by windows being on it :[
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: if you use kdesudo... it uses your config
[18:32] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: "restore of system enviroment complete" " Uninstall fglrx driver complete"
[18:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: can you do me a favor?
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: cool, now install the other driver
[18:32] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  Heh.. :)  more space for.. err.. vacation pics.
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what is it?
[18:33] <serega> looks like "Introduce yourself" step was failed ;)
[18:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: ask ardchoille to unignore me
[18:33] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: that did I in the restricted manager or.. what it was called?
[18:33] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Well, that's new. I also noticed that /root/.kde/* are symlinks to my user's configs. That wasn't so in Feisty.
[18:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> tell him to unignore little jon nosrednaekim
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: oh... maybe thats why :)
[18:33] <mbenedi> #kubuntu_offtopic
[18:33] <[ifr0g]> dhq, hi
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: LIL-Jon wants you to unignore him
[18:33] <dhq> [ifr0g], :) lol hi
[18:33] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: I don't have anyone on ignore
[18:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: so you can see this text?
[18:34] <ardchoille> yes
[18:34] <[ifr0g]> dhq, upgraded already ?
[18:34] <dhq> [ifr0g], did you find the bluetooth app
[18:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> oh
[18:34] <dhq> [ifr0g], well yes
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: run "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde" from the terminal
[18:34] <[ifr0g]> dhq, naa..
[18:34] <don_> I tried messaging, it won't let me..  LOL
[18:34] <[ifr0g]> dhq, but i did find some source
[18:34] <dhq> [ifr0g], well then help me out here
[18:35] <nosrednaekim> don_: make a thread on the ubuntu forums.
[18:35] <[ifr0g]> dhq, bluetooth-alsa
[18:35] <keoni86> anyone know where i can get a copy of the kubuntu dvd at a relativly decent speed
[18:35] <dhq> [ifr0g], so what do we do with that
[18:35] <don_> AH,   ok... one sec......
[18:35] <keoni86> im getting only 10k/sec on bittorrent
[18:35] <[ifr0g]> dhq, compile it.
[18:35] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  what torrent?
[18:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: will bluetooth work with my phone which has bluetooth
[18:35] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: "bash: kdesudo: command wasn't found"
[18:35] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  i was getting 1000k/s yesterday on the ubuntu iso torrent. :)
[18:35] <dhq> [ifr0g], but will it work
[18:36] <keoni86> im trying to get dvd tho
[18:36] <serega> tysonw: kdesu
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: oh... you're not on gutsy?
[18:36] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, That is what i was guessing. if your phone has a hands-free profile
[18:36]  * keoni86 is looking for which torrent it is
[18:36] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: no.. kubuntu
[18:36] <PolitikerNEU> I got a problem with an old kubuntu (7.04) live cd - I tried it on my Notebook, but it held with a blinking "_"
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: what does "lsb_release -a" say about your code name
[18:36] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, dhq  http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/
[18:36] <dhq> Dr_willis, your so lucky
[18:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i have a razr v3
[18:37] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, wow,
[18:37] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: feisty
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ah... ok. then run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[18:37] <dhq> [ifr0g], will it work
[18:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille holds grudges
[18:38] <Dr_willis> dhq,  i dident even think my cable could go that fast.
[18:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: why do you say wow?
[18:38] <[ifr0g]> dhq, i guess
[18:38] <martoya> tysonsw: the correct command is "kdesu" not "kdesudo"
[18:38] <tysonsw> martoya: thanks
[18:38] <adlisyakir> PolitikerNEU : why u don't try kubunt 7.10
[18:38] <claydoh> Jucato: kubuntuforums is back up :)
[18:38] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, v3 thats  new in the market
[18:39] <Jucato> claydoh: yay thanks!!
[18:39] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: not im america
[18:39] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: now it is installed.. and you are my god know becurse you know a lot of things :P
[18:39] <dhq> Dr_willis, you must thank god you have that download speed ... here the max download speed we get is like 33lb/sec
[18:39]  * ardchoille drags out his ignore list *sigh*
[18:39] <[ifr0g]> oh
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: I can't be your god.. sorry.
[18:39] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: to bad :p
[18:39]  * AT0M1CB0MB3R thinks some people don't know how to forgive and forget
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: now run "kdesu restricted-manager
[18:39] <Dr_willis> dhq,  the most id ever seen befor on my connection was 400k/s - perhaps the isp has upgraded  for me.
[18:40] <Dr_willis> because i sawit was over 1000 and was like. 'that cant be rigth' then the download was done. :)
[18:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: so could v3 connect to my computer with bluetooth
[18:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[18:40] <dhq> Dr_willis, lucky you aint i rite [GuS]
[18:40] <dhq> Dr_willis, lucky you aint i rite [ifr0g]
[18:40] <keoni86> Dr_willis: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:40] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, basically it should, with supported services in kbluetoothd
[18:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dhq: to type [ifr0g]'s name just type "if" then hit tab
[18:41] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: so now is the driver aktivated.. see you in a sec.. restart is law
[18:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: so i dont have to have bluetooth hardware
[18:41] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: you told it to enable it?
[18:41] <dhq> AT0M1CB0MB3R, i have to type [ and tab as [ifr0g]  has the brackets :P
[18:41] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: yepp
[18:41] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, :P.. you need to have a bluetooth dougle
[18:41] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ok... yeah... reboot
[18:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i dont have that :p
[18:42] <tyler_mauthe> Hello all
[18:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> :[
[18:42] <dhq> [ifr0g], well so we both could compile it togeather
[18:42] <ubunturos> !hi | tyler_mauthe
[18:42] <ubotu> tyler_mauthe: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:42] <dhq> [ifr0g], will be fun
[18:42] <the-erm> I'm having a weird problem.  I get sound, but no video on all my videos.   I used to be able to watch videos before I upgraded to gusty.
[18:42] <ubunturos> hey dhq
[18:42] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, Then sadly you wont be able to make the connection.. sorry :(
[18:42] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  it could be a lot of people are not seeding that torrent also. I dont see much need for the 'dvd'
[18:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: its ight
[18:42] <dhq> ubunturos, hey
[18:42] <damianos> hello
[18:42] <keoni86> whats even on it?
[18:43] <[ifr0g]> huh ?
[18:43] <keoni86> all the packages?
[18:43] <dhq> keoni86, i dont find anything on the dvd
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> AT0M1CB0MB3R- you can buy USB Bluetooth adapters fairly cheap
[18:43] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  ive never seen a good answer to whats on the dvd.. :) so i never use it
[18:43] <tyler_mauthe> During the upgrade from feisty to gutsy I decided to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu.. I re-formatted everything so it was a clean/fresh install, but I am regretting making the switch now, because I am having trouble with almost everything...
[18:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dragnslcr: thanks ill pick one up
[18:43] <keoni86> humm
[18:43] <ardchoille> keoni86: The dvd is only a combination of the alternate and desktop cd's
[18:43] <Dr_willis> thers only 133 seedrs for that  dvd version. I would say stick witht eh cd.
[18:43] <damianos> Is it possible to connect via bluetooth from pc to mobile phone ?
[18:43] <keoni86> and that takes up 4gigs?
[18:43] <damianos> in new kubuntu ?
[18:44] <dhq> keoni86, well i downloaded couple of the previous version on the dvd and i alwaays use net to install packages
[18:44] <Dragnslcr> damianos- if you have a bluetooth adapter on your computer, yes
[18:44] <ardchoille> keoni86: 2 cd's at 2gb each? ;)
[18:44] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  i was getting about 13k/s with that torrent also.
[18:44] <dhq> damianos, well ofcousre it is possible
[18:44] <tyler_mauthe> I can't play any movies in Kaffeine I guess would be the first issue I'd like to work on
[18:44] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   shows the torrents and the # of seeders/leachers for each.
[18:45] <keoni86> lol, well i think ima just get the regular iso
[18:45] <rock_`> cant install 7.10 on my sata drive ?
[18:45] <Dr_willis> rock_`,  it isntalled on my sata drive fine.
[18:45] <dhq> [ifr0g], still waiting for your answer
[18:45] <rock_`> k
[18:45] <dhq> ubunturos, you called :P
[18:45] <Dr_willis> rock_`,  unless you are having some sort of issues it should work on it.
[18:45] <Road_kill> Hey, I upgraded via the console. However, the Adept Manager still has the "Upgrade Version" button. How do I get rid of it?
[18:46] <[ifr0g]> dhq, Not in the mood to compile..:D
[18:46] <tyler_mauthe> rock_`: fine on mine as well
[18:46] <rock_`> i have some kind of problem installed ok on ied drive
[18:46] <ubunturos> dhq: just wanted to say "Hi" :)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> Road_kill,  its a buglet.. ignore the button. :)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> the shiny jolly button!
[18:46] <rock_`> bbl
[18:46] <ardchoille> does the kdesu gui have a cache timeout feature? If so, how can I change that timeout?
[18:46] <dhq> [GuS], please
[18:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: yeah i have that button too
[18:47] <dhq> ubunturos, well nice of you to say hi to me so i will be nice to you and say hi to you
[18:47] <dhq> :p
[18:47] <Dr_willis> I recall some factoid that mentions the bug. basicially if your console sayss you are up to date then you are.
[18:47] <Road_kill> Ok good, at least we are not the only ones
[18:47] <ubunturos> dhq: hehe ...
[18:47] <tyler_mauthe> When I first installed Kubuntu my menu's were all corrupted as well, I had to take the Description field out of all the icons in Kmenu for them to display properly..
[18:47] <ubunturos> dhq: btw, are you going to FOSS.IN/2007 this year?
[18:47] <tyler_mauthe> Should I just try re-installing.. maybe my install is half-broken?
[18:48] <[ka]killer> bah im having some problems -_-
[18:48] <Dr_willis> tyler_mauthe,  try making a new user. see if the issue happens with them also.
[18:48] <[GuS]> dhq: ?
[18:48] <[ka]killer> mainly with video play back
[18:48] <don_> OK<  thread posted, with attached screenshot :)
[18:48] <tyler_mauthe> Dr_willis: ok.. brb
[18:48] <dhq> [GuS], buzzed you by mistake sorry
[18:49] <Dr_willis> off to edit a wiki page..
[18:49] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:49] <don_> post name is        wizzard7
[18:49] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:49] <[ka]killer> ok so whats going on is im using kaffeine as i have been since i switched to kubuntu on festy with no problems, after i upgraded to gusty kaffeine will not play avi files at all, and mkv files only give me sound
[18:49] <don_> oh, did nored leave?
[18:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: how do you edit a wiki page so that means anybody can edit a wiki page?
[18:49] <[ka]killer> both file types play in VLC but i dont like how VLC renders subtitles (cant make it better ive tried) and any other player the sound does not work
[18:50] <ardchoille> I"m having trouble with Kopete connecting to my MSN messenger account. Any help with that?
[18:50] <dhq> ubunturos, where in india will it be held
[18:50] <ubunturos> dhq: Bangalore, India - You aren't far away (are you?)
[18:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know why pidgin doesnt have any noise when people im me
[18:50] <[ka]killer> can anyone give me a hand? ive tried askign on the kaffeine forum but no one has responded to that thread yet
[18:51] <dhq> ubunturos, i guess mangalore is not to far
[18:51] <tyler_mauthe> Dr_willis: I just created a new user and the menu's are screwed up
[18:51] <away> ubunturos: huh?
[18:51] <ubunturos> dhq: right
[18:51] <saizai_> Anyone know if there's an easy way to throttle CPU freq based on temp? Right now I use i8kctl+gkrellm to set fan speed, and cpufreq to set cpu depending on load, but since I still have major overheating issues I'd like to throttle by cputemp too...
[18:51] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: I am having the same issue, kaffeine will not work
[18:51] <ubunturos> away: your nick is a common word in english, you'll probably have to change it ;)
[18:51] <dhq> ubunturos, well 6 hours away... will you come
[18:51] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: I think it's related to the xine lib
[18:51] <[ka]killer> tyler_mauthe: have you tried anyother players?
[18:51] <ubunturos> dhq: I'm not likely to make it this year :(
[18:52] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: I have not tried vlc yet
[18:52] <[ka]killer> i tried reinstalling the xine lib and now everything else is f**ked up
[18:52] <dhq> ubunturos, your in india arent you
[18:52] <ubunturos> dhq: yes, in Mumbai
[18:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !ohmy [ka]killer
[18:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy [ka]killer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !ohmy | [ka]killer
[18:53] <ubotu> [ka]killer: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[18:53] <[ka]killer> tyler_mauthe: i tried the xine-ui player, which gives me video but no sound, kaffeine gives me a video codec error now -_- and VLC does a really crappy job rendering subs
[18:53] <dhq> ubunturos, i finish my exams by20 nov and i will be back in mumbai by 23 i guess
[18:53] <[ka]killer> ?
[18:53] <ubunturos> dhq: ah, would be glad to meet you, if we both can co-ordinate :)
[18:53] <tysonsw> anyone have a tip on how I could get my wireless to work? I have tried alot of things but wont connect.. even if I got the right password
[18:53] <dhq> ubunturos,  well i have to see if i can extend for foss
[18:53] <[ka]killer> hey im censoring my self more then normal >=O
[18:53] <ubunturos> DHq
[18:53] <Dr_willis> Yea. i edited the compiz wiki entry with a kubuntu specific bit.
[18:54] <Assid> sup
[18:54] <[ka]killer> im just getting really anoyed at this not working
[18:54] <dhq> ubunturos, yes
[18:54] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: OIC .. mine just crashes, the backtrace always implicates the xine libraries
[18:54] <ubunturos> dhq: FOSS.IN/2007 is from 4th to 8 Dec 2007
[18:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: help me with pidgin please :]
[18:54] <[ifr0g]> awee. :(
[18:54] <[ka]killer> yah, i tried reinstalling the xine lib (1.1.8, then 1.1.7)
[18:54] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  my use of pidgen is very limited. whats the issue?
[18:54] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Why would you use pidgin when you could use Kopete??
[18:54] <[ka]killer> and that just screwed it up worse
[18:54] <dhq> ubunturos, this is the official channel for kubuntu could we take this topic to #dhqifx
[18:54] <[ifr0g]> Why dont we have foss in kuwait :*(
[18:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> tyler_mauthe: cause its acting up closes on msn
[18:55] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: I think alot of people are having issues with kopete after upgrading 7.04 -> 7.10
[18:55] <tysonsw> anyone have a tip on how I could get my wireless to work? I have tried alot of things but wont connect.. even if I got the right password
[18:55] <tyler_mauthe> Hmm I haven't tried it yet come to think of it
[18:55] <wesley> compiz does not work i got a intel card
[18:55] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: personally I guess just recreating its config would be fine but thats just a though
[18:55] <h3sp4wn> t
[18:55] <[ka]killer> tysonsw: is knetworkmanager displaying your wireless connection?
[18:55] <tysonsw> no
[18:56] <Tm_T> h3sp4wn: issues? msg me about it and i'll look at it when i get home thanks
[18:56] <tyler_mauthe> The reason I switched to Kubuntu from Ubuntu was because KDE has better programs, namely Kopete and Amarok
[18:56] <[ka]killer> i know this problem i had it in 7.04
[18:56] <ThePianoGu1> is it normal that .deb installer for kde crashes in default gutsy?
[18:56] <wesley> where can i get beryl now?
[18:56] <ThePianoGu1> (eats all ram)
[18:56] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: ok.. how do I fix it?
[18:56] <[ka]killer> go to the manual configure disable your wireless and reenable it
[18:56] <[ka]killer> that should let it connect
[18:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: it doesnt have a noise when people im me or i im people
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> Ah yep
[18:57] <[ka]killer> beyond that the only solution i came up with (mind you it was an on-the-fly fix on vacation) was to write a script to disable/re-enable it for me
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> Kopete crashes on MSN for me too
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> great.
[18:57] <[ka]killer> have you tried pidgin?
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> Ubuntu here I come I guess..
[18:57] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, kopete sux as it uses alot of resources
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: If I'm going to use Pidgin I might as well switch back to ubuntu :|
[18:57] <wesley> tyler you can fix that theres a bug fix out
[18:57] <[ka]killer> =/
[18:57] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, pidgin is good but you have to risk for its limited features
[18:58] <[ka]killer> kopote was giving me problems so i switched to pidgin
[18:58] <[ifr0g]> Any one here from kuwait ?
[18:58] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: I got plenty of resources, let it suck!
[18:58] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, and memory :P
[18:58] <wesley> tyler do you use 32 bit or 64?
[18:58] <tyler_mauthe> 32
[18:59] <[ifr0g]> :)
[18:59] <[ka]killer> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jonjim9096/errorkaffeine.png
[18:59] <wesley> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[18:59] <ThePianoGu1> does deb installer in kubuntu work for you guys?
[18:59] <wesley> tyler thats the bug fix for kopete
[18:59] <tyler_mauthe> wesley: thank you sir :)
[18:59] <wesley> yes the deb installer works
[18:59] <[ka]killer> thats the error i receive when i try to open any video file in kaffeine
[18:59] <tyler_mauthe> Now if only Kaffeine would play movies ..
[18:59] <ThePianoGu1> the gdebi installer I mean with kde frontend?
[18:59] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  odd. i know my stepdaughter was using it on Yahoo and it beeped at her last night when she got messages.  Check/explore all the settings is about all i can suggest.
[19:00] <wesley> tyler i had the same problem so i did google it a few days ago
[19:00] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, wats the problem with kaffiene
[19:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: i think im gonig to use kopet or whatever but whats the fix for the bug
[19:00] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: it crashes when I try to play a movie
[19:00] <[ka]killer> dhq: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jonjim9096/errorkaffeine.png
[19:01] <ariane> hello. i just installed compiz fusion and the cube plugin isn't working. i found out it was because xgl wasn't "present" and i wanted to know how to enable it ? could someone give me a hand on this please ?
[19:01] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i didetn fix anything.  It beeps at her when she gets a message. could be uits trying to use a sound file that dosent exist.
[19:01] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: that's not my error.. my error is that kaffeine causes signal 11
[19:02] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, try reinstalling the xine engines
[19:02] <wesley> i wanna have beryl does anyone know how to get beryl
[19:02] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: After I hade activated it.. it deactivates itself
[19:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: no im talking about the fix for the bug with kopet
[19:02] <[ka]killer> o_O
[19:02] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: how to do ?
[19:02] <Dr_willis> I dont use Kopete sorry. no idea about its bugs.
[19:02] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: did you try the bugfix that wesley suggested?
[19:02] <Dr_willis> I use xchat for my irc needs. i dont do yahoo or the other stuff. any more. :)
[19:03] <[ka]killer> im using konversation for now
[19:03] <[ka]killer> i used to use xchat
[19:03] <h3sp4wn> Why not just use bitlbee and irc
[19:03] <Dr_willis> Hanging out in the Yahooo Linux chat room  - is a whole different Zoo. :)
[19:03] <h3sp4wn> e.g irssi
[19:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wheres the bug fix
[19:04] <dhq> Dr_willis, it sux
[19:04] <tyler_mauthe> do you have a 32bit or 64bit?
[19:04] <tysonsw> can anyone hlp me with my wireless?? it keps to deactivate itself O.o
[19:05] <h3sp4wn> AT0M1CB0MB3R: deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
[19:05] <[ka]killer> um... do youhave the right drivers installed?
[19:05] <h3sp4wn> AT0M1CB0MB3R: (Almost certainly the fix is there)
[19:05] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: were
[19:05] <noam> well, there's konversation
[19:05] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: I have an understanding of apt.. I just don't know the package names for the xine engines..
[19:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> no somebody was saying they had the fix like 2 days ago
[19:06]  * away is back.
[19:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> and they posted it like every half hour
[19:06] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: the problem is that I dodn't know the creator.. so its a little problem there.. its a acer laptop
[19:06] <[ka]killer> humm
[19:06] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: so you need to know the regexp's for apt-cache ?
[19:06] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, adept or synaptics would be a good place to start
[19:06] <noam> שש
[19:06] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: The aptitude regexp's are much easier to use
[19:07] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: aptitude search xine~nengine
[19:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i have 29 acheivments
[19:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wow wrong box
[19:07] <tyler_mauthe> h3sp4wn: that returned nothing
[19:07] <Kr4t05> Guh... Is there a working fusion-icon package for Gutsy?
[19:08] <bartsan> greetings
[19:08] <[ka]killer> is it normal for adept to still show the version upgrade after ive done the upgrade?
[19:08] <bartsan> eartsomes
[19:08] <NickPresta> I've backed up /home, is there anything else I should backup that has important settings or anything similar? /etc?
[19:08] <King_Jere> My KDM screen is using what I think is called virtual screen size. i.e. move the  mouse to the edge of the screen to pan left and right. Are the settings for this in xorg.conf or elswhere?
[19:09] <lalalande> any download good manager for kubuntu?
[19:09] <_StefanS_> lalalande: kget ?
[19:09] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: thanks.. I was wondering what the Kubuntu equivalent of Synaptic was.. I'll be able to manage with this
[19:09] <NickPresta> lalalande, kget..
[19:09] <NickPresta> tyler_mauthe, Adept
[19:09] <_StefanS_> lalalande: I believe there's some java ones as well
[19:10] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: just get libxine1-plugins (or look at its dependancies) if the gnome one pulls in too much junk
[19:10] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, no problem
[19:10] <[ka]killer> i have libxine1-plugins installed and mine still does not work
[19:12] <kaminix> If I just aptitude remove the files I installed KDE 4 with I'll be okay, right?
[19:13] <[ka]killer> should be
[19:13] <h3sp4wn> [ka]killer: have you got the ffmpeg plugin (should be a dependancy of that)
[19:13] <[ka]killer> yes
[19:14] <[ka]killer> kaffeine-xine                                   install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1                                        install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-console                                install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-ffmpeg                                 install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-gnome                                  install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-plugins                                install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxinerama-dev                                 install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxinerama1                                    install
[19:14] <stdin> !paste | [ka]killer
[19:14] <ubotu> [ka]killer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:14] <ubunturos> !pastebin | [ka]killer:
[19:14] <ubotu> [ka]killer:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:14] <[ka]killer> ok...
[19:14] <tyler_mauthe> lol
[19:15] <[ka]killer> im new to this channel/network give me a break
[19:15] <tyler_mauthe> they just did ;)
[19:15] <[ka]killer> good point
[19:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you're still expected to read the topic
[19:15] <Daisuke_Ido> no matter though
[19:15] <[ka]killer> i didnt see the thing about large pastes
[19:15] <tyler_mauthe> I reinstalled everything that looked like it was to do with xine engine or xine plugins or whatever and Kaffeine still crashes, signal 11
[19:17] <noam_> anyone having troubles connecting google talk with kopete on gutsy?
[19:17] <stdin> nope, works here
[19:18] <noam_> argh
[19:18] <King_Jere> How do I change the screen resolution for kdm?
[19:18] <stdin> !resolution
[19:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:18] <owner_> I downloaded Kubuntu alternate version and did not see an upgrade option....I am on Kubuntu 7.04
[19:19] <kaminix> Why are there no i686 architecture for Ubuntu?
[19:19] <Zeelot> hey guys, I just installed kubuntu 7.10 on a machine and installed KDE4, but when I try starting a kde4 session its completely unusable, the start menu is blank basically the- -only thing that shows is something at the top left, any ideas?
[19:19] <kaminix> Zeelot: That's KDE 4 Beta 3 for you.
[19:19] <stdin> kaminix: because "i386" just means 32bit
[19:20] <kaminix> stdin: But a bunch of other distros use i686 architecture?
[19:20] <tyler_mauthe> The backtrace of the crash that Kaffeine causes says it's "from /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.7/xineplug_vo_out_xcbxv.so"
[19:20] <Dr_willis> I think they are missleadign terms. :)
[19:20] <Zeelot> kaminix yea I know, jus wondering if it was a simple problem before I gave up and waited for kde4 to actually come out...really wanted to try it
[19:20] <stdin> kaminix: the "i386" packages are actually i486 packages
[19:20] <owner_> How do I upgrade from the alternate version Kubuntu CD when there is no option there? I run Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.04
[19:21] <Dr_willis> i686 means a Pent+ dosent it?
[19:21] <Jaearess> kaminix: I believe the core devs tested the speed gained from compiling for 686 compared with 386/486 and found practically no difference so they only go with 386 now.
[19:21] <stdin> kaminix: it's like that so the packages will run on most/all CPU's
[19:21] <tysonsw> anyone know a way to make my wireless stop deactivating itself?
[19:21] <kaminix> Zeelot: Try rightclicking the desktop and run some cool apps :)
[19:21] <kaminix> I see...
[19:21] <stdin> owner_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-93ac2e597b9e0c5ff78111d4fd2bbe34a35799c7
[19:22] <tyler_mauthe> Ooook.. No point barking up the Kaffeine tree I guess.. next problem..
[19:22] <Jaearess> Dr_willis: 686 means Pentium 3 & 4
[19:23] <Dr_willis> Jaearess, ok. :) i never could rember that.
[19:23] <NickPresta> is there anything I should backup besides, all of /home (my documents, etc), xorg.conf, menu.lst, and any other configuration files I wanted to keep?
[19:23] <h3sp4wn> Things can make a difference its just software being inefficient
[19:23] <owner_> Do you upgrade to 7.10 from bootup?
[19:23] <tyler_mauthe> My volume control on my keyboard was working up until about an hour ago, now it just allows me to pick between 0% and 11% and it's in a different GUI than before.. before it just flashed the Kmix dialogue as it changed.. now it's just a grey box in the centre of the screen that says Volume: and then a bar with the % in it
[19:23] <stdin> owner_: no, from the installed system
[19:23] <h3sp4wn> (e.g mplayer, imlib2, openssl) do make differences by being optimised or running 64 bit
[19:24] <owner_> oh-ok-I was trying to insert cd before turning it on
[19:24] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: VLC did work to play my movie.. but it's choppy
[19:24] <owner_> Will it ubgrade Ubunu as well?
[19:24] <[ka]killer> yah
[19:25] <tysonsw> anyone know a way to make my wireless stop deactivating itself?
[19:25] <[ka]killer> VLC plays mine also, but its choppy and teh subs are rendered verry poorly
[19:25] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: is there a green strip at the top as well?
[19:26] <[ka]killer> not on mine
[19:26] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: probably just the specific movie I was playing caused that
[19:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> whats the fix for kopete
[19:27] <tysonsw> how do I zoom out in compiz?
[19:27] <dvayanu> hi
[19:27] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: do you have 32bit or 64bit?
[19:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 32
[19:27] <dvayanu> i asked yesterday already and trying to re-ask, how can i make the fonts under gutsy look same way as they looked under edgy and feisty?
[19:28] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[19:28] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[19:28] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: that got it working for me
[19:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> tyler_mauthe: thanks
[19:28] <tysonsw> how do I zoom out in compiz?
[19:28] <tyler_mauthe> tysonsw: should be the opposite of how you zoomed in
[19:28] <stdin> tysonsw: compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[19:29] <tyler_mauthe> and what he said :P
[19:29] <martin_> help please.. i installed a new theme and now my taskbar screwed up... it sits at the right side of the screen and looks totally irky.. if i move it to the bottom, all buttons just disappear.. what can i do?
[19:29] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  windows key/ mouse wheel i thought.  Check the compiz settigns manager tool and see what bindings it has setup
[19:29] <tyler_mauthe> Anyone help with volume control issue??
[19:30] <Dr_willis> compiz really needs a nice 'show me all the shortcut keys'  tool.
[19:33] <kousotu> what packages do I need for compiz-fusion?
[19:33] <redshadowhero> sooooo... the user of this computer has managed to lock it in 640 x 480 resolution... how would I fix this?
[19:34] <kousotu> what packages do I need for compiz-fusion?
[19:35] <stdin> !compiz
[19:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:36] <kousotu> ty
[19:37] <kousotu> um....
[19:37] <kaminix> Do I have to register my nick? :(
[19:37] <tyler_mauthe> Anyone help with volume control issue in Kubuntu 7.10???
[19:37] <kousotu> there's something missing in those instructions
[19:37] <[ka]killer> how about general xine screwed upedness
[19:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !register
[19:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[19:37] <Admiral_Chicago> kaminix: well you do /msg nickserv register YOURPASSWORD
[19:37] <kousotu> kaminix: /ns register <password> <email>
[19:37] <kaminix> What are these folders in the Amarok shared scriptfolder? common  ruby_debug  templates
[19:37] <kaminix> I know how I do it, but why? :p
[19:38] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, well you don't
[19:38] <Admiral_Chicago> its useful only if you plan to private message someone
[19:38] <kaminix> I was sent or invited to #ubuntu-unreg...
[19:39] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't know anything about that
[19:39] <Dr_willis> stdin,  i even edited that wiki page. :) with a Kubuntu note. Not sure what other notes to make on it for Kubuntu.
[19:39] <HomeRoey> HI!
[19:39] <[ka]killer> anyone else having problems with xine?
[19:39] <Roey> I have a Logitech MX-1000 mouse; I'm on Gutsy Gibbon.  WHy doesn't GG set up all the mouse buttons correctly?
[19:40] <Dr_willis> Roey,  theres way to much varity/quirks with those multibutton mice.
[19:40] <[ka]killer> i have a razor copper head, and no matter wht i try it refuses to map 2 of my buttons
[19:40] <noam_> define correctly
[19:40] <Dr_willis> I do recall some Mouse tools out that might help.
[19:40] <Roey> Dr_willis:  ah
[19:40] <BluesKaj> the quebec repos for canadian users should be dumped in favour one that can handle a bit of a load ...it's terribly slow and has been for months
[19:40] <Dr_willis> correctly for me = set Quake to use buytton 4 for grenades and 5 for medpacks.
[19:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:40] <stdin> Dr_willis: looks fine, I'd rather someone who uses it edit's it :p (rather than me)
[19:41] <Roey> Dr_willis:  well the basic thing is this:  now it seems that even my trusty .xbindkeysrc doesn't seem to work.
[19:41] <Roey> arg.
[19:41] <[ka]killer> atleast it still lets 5/6 control dpi on the fly
[19:41] <dvayanu> btw will GG recognize ipods?
[19:41] <Dr_willis> stdin,  i just recall that when enabling that flatfile option. the 'focus' options that give people issues - seem to 'get fixed' automaticially.  Not sure how detailed i should get on every little thing.
[19:41] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: the US one is slow too...
[19:42] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, 10 mins to install samba ?
[19:42] <Dr_willis> [ka]killer,  the dpi button on my mouse ONLY set the dpi. :) no way to change them since its in the hardware of the mouse.
[19:42] <[ka]killer> yah, with the software i can change it, but i like having them
[19:42] <[ka]killer> lets me jump from 800 to 2k =P
[19:42] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, thats too slow
[19:42] <Dr_willis> These new mice are getting WAY WAY too many 'things' on them.
[19:42] <[ka]killer> lol
[19:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: you sound very old saying that....
[19:43] <[ka]killer> i have 2 dpi buttons and 2 buttons on teh left i want to use for forward/backwards when browsing
[19:43] <gameforge> I'm trying to install Kubuntu Gutsy on an IBM Thinkpad T42, and it gets to about 60% and it shuts down (I hear a beep, switch to a console and see "System Going Down Now" message).  I see no error.  Any ideas?  Should I try the alternate CD?
[19:43] <[ka]killer> but i cant get them to bind correctly >_<
[19:43] <Admiral_Chicago> when I was a kid, we didn't even have mice, and forget a graphical system
[19:43] <Dr_willis> That new 'free wheeling' scroll wheel - thats out is 'ok' but left/right scrolling tilt wheel. is a bit annoying. :)
[19:43] <lee986321> !pastebin
[19:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:43] <[ka]killer> i <3 my copper head
[19:44]  * runlevelten wishes s african and english rugby fans good luck and watches :)
[19:44] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  i rember when a 'wheel on the mouse' was a fancy new thing that had to be set up manually under linux
[19:44] <[ka]killer> xD
[19:44] <kousotu> what packages are needed for Compiz-fusion (including setup packages)
[19:45] <Jucato> !compiz | kousotu
[19:45] <ubotu> kousotu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:45] <stdin> kousotu: the link ubotu gave has a list
[19:45] <kousotu> Jucato: I read that
[19:45] <Dr_willis> COmiz is the new faq #1 :)
[19:45] <kousotu> there's a package I know is missing for the instructions
[19:45] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:45] <Dr_willis> kousotu,  whats not clear about  it? been editing that page a little.
[19:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[19:45] <Dr_willis> !find compiz
[19:45] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)
[19:45] <Dr_willis> !find kde-compiz
[19:46] <ubotu> Package/file kde-compiz does not exist in gutsy
[19:46] <stdin> !info compiz-kde
[19:46] <ubotu> compiz-kde: OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 228 kB
[19:46] <the-erm> Has anyone had problems playing video since they upgraded to gusty ?
[19:46] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:46] <Dr_willis> compiz-kde and emerald - i THINK are the only 2 needed.
[19:46] <kousotu> Dr_willis: it thatone package I got nabed about when I tried on T5
[19:46] <gameforge> What's the difference between the regular and "alternate" CD images?
[19:47] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:47] <steinerhippo> hi everybody, is it normal, that when i cut a file from my kubuntu desktop and place it in a other directory, that it still exists on the desktop? i have to delete it manually, but when i do the whole cut operation in dolphin, it works, i use kubuntu 7.10. thanx for every help
[19:47] <dvayanu> dr_willis: is reboot or x-server restart needed
[19:47] <the-erm> gameforge: if you insert the alt cd it should update
[19:47] <kousotu> gameforge: reg: shows graphical install interface - alt. does not
[19:47] <[ka]killer> ok besides my xine problems
[19:47] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  for compiz - you run the compiz --replace option to enable it.
[19:47] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:47] <the-erm> [ka]killer: what are your xine problems?  I'm having playing video in general problems
[19:47] <kousotu> Dr_willis: can I pm you?
[19:47] <[ka]killer> its only seeing my usb cd bruner
[19:47] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41380/ >>>>>>>>>>>will it work<<<<<<<<<<yes or know>>>>>>>>
[19:47] <Dr_willis> Not sure of the 'proper' way to get compiz to start at login however with kde.
[19:47] <[ka]killer> the-erm: thats the general problem
[19:47] <gameforge> so if the regular one gets to 60% copying files and shuts the computer down with no error (only a "going down now" msg on console) should I try the alternate image?
[19:48] <[ka]killer> as a mass storage device, not a cd burner
[19:48] <Dr_willis> kousotu,  you can try. :) i gotta run real soon to the post office.
[19:48] <lee986321> eh oops typo
[19:48] <the-erm> [ka]killer: so are you seeing videos with vertical lines?
[19:48] <dvayanu> aehm
[19:48] <[ka]killer> for me all programs that rely on xine are all screwed up and wont play anyhting
[19:48] <kousotu> Dr_willis: I'm sure it won't take all day ;P
[19:48] <dvayanu> i have no window-titles anymore :-)
[19:48] <[ka]killer> the-erm: no im not seeing video at all >_<
[19:48] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:48] <the-erm> odd same here [ka]killer.
[19:48] <[ka]killer> its an xine problem
[19:48] <Dr_willis> !universe
[19:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:49] <yendor> I'm trying to configure my laptop to support dual screen with desktop extension...my laptop is widescreen while the second monitor is 4:3... but it won't let me...can you help me please?
[19:49] <steinerhippo> am i the only one who has this failure?
[19:49] <moofoo> hello, is there something like Treviño's repo for gutsy? (eg. with a recent avidemux 2.4 snapshot)
[19:49] <tysonsw> Dr_willis event not found
[19:49] <the-erm> yet in fiesty it worked fine.  Odd thing is I can play .flv videos fine in firefox via a flash player.
[19:49] <[ka]killer> same
[19:49] <[ka]killer> have you tried VLC?
[19:49] <Ashex> !xchat > me
[19:49] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  !universe is a BOT command.. not a command you put in the shell
[19:50] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41380/ will it work..preparing to restart system
[19:50] <Dr_willis> !universe | tysonsw
[19:50] <ubotu> tysonsw: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:50] <[ka]killer> for me VLC plays the videos but i dont like how it renders subtitles (and 90% of the things i have are subed)
[19:50] <Ashex> anyone ever had the issue of the channels not changing colors with activity in xchat?
[19:50] <dvayanu> de_willis: compiz obviously started, but my windows have no title anymore
[19:50] <lee986321> lol
[19:50] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  thats why emerald needs to be installed i belive
[19:50] <dvayanu> will it be active automatically next session? or can i select it as session?
[19:50] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  it will NOT get started automaticially.
[19:50] <dvayanu> emerald is already the newest version.
[19:50] <gameforge> Is there a way I can watch the console output of the Kubuntu setup (setting up from CD)?
[19:50] <dvayanu> dr_willis: i did
[19:50] <lee986321> fine restaarting
[19:51] <maverick> is there a way to increase the size of my ubuntu installation
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, I exaggerated ...it only took 9 mins :)
[19:51] <maverick> ?!
[19:51] <Dr_willis> I followed the docs at !compiz - not sure what else was needed.  let me check
[19:51] <Dr_willis> !compizx
[19:51] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[19:51] <keoni86> ew/quit
[19:51] <lee986321> i am guessing its ok...won't be any different then befo
[19:51] <dvayanu> i installed compiz, compiz-kde and emerald
[19:51] <lee986321> BLSOD coming up
[19:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:51] <[ka]killer> wakarimasen
[19:51] <lee986321> see ya all after  the reformat
[19:51] <kousotu> lee986321: blsod?
[19:51] <stdin> lee986321: why did you install restricted-manager and not restricted-manager-kde ?
[19:52] <steinerhippo> hi everybody, is it normal, that when i cut a file from my kubuntu desktop and place it in a other directory, that it still exists on the desktop? i have to delete it manually, but when i do the whole cut operation in dolphin, it works, i use kubuntu 7.10. thanx for every help
[19:52] <lee986321> stdin eh be cause no one said i neede to?
[19:52] <[ka]killer> i should have stayed on festy -_-
[19:52] <yendor> I need to setup my primary screen on 1280x800 and the second sreen to 2048x1024 with desktop extension...it wont let me..can you help me?
[19:52] <lee986321> and this was my first atempt
[19:53] <maverick> Is there a way to increase the size of my -already installed- ubuntu drive??
[19:53] <stdin> lee986321: restricted-manager is the gnome version, restricted-manager-kde is the kde one, and puts an entry in system settings
[19:53] <maverick> without having to reformat
[19:53] <maverick> like using Partiton magic for example
[19:53] <lee986321> kousotu "Black Screen O Death
[19:53] <gameforge> stenerhippo: I just tried it, and it worked for me... created a new file on my desktop, right click -> Cut, then went to my home folder in Konqueror and pasted it - it removed it from the desktop.  Using fresh upgraded Gutsy/7.10.
[19:53] <kousotu> ah...
[19:53] <lee986321> stdin ehrgh
[19:54] <WaltzingAlong> maverick: black screen of death is only true for those who know nothing about ctrl+alt+f1
[19:54] <lee986321> can it be fixed?
[19:54] <dithi_> maverick: yes
[19:54] <steinerhippo> gameforge: and if you use the standard file manager dolphin? like me?
[19:54] <moofoo> what are aptitude-create-state-bundle  aptitude-run-state-bundle  used for? they just annoy when tab-completing aptitude so i wonder if its safe to delete/rename them?!
[19:54] <lee986321> stdin can it be fixed?
[19:54] <dithi_> maverick: did you delete another partition? or do you want to shrink a partition too?
[19:54] <stdin> lee986321: remove restricted-manager then install restricted-manager-kde, simple
[19:54] <lee986321> I treid and treid to get help earlier buit...
[19:54] <gameforge> wait, so go the desktop in Dolphin and cut a file, then paste it somewhere else (in Dolphin)?
[19:54] <steinerhippo> no
[19:55] <lee986321> stdin ok how do i do that?
[19:55] <maverick> dithi_: my ubuntu partiton is only 8.2 GB and it got filled up i just want to increase the size to like 20 GB or so...
[19:55] <lee986321> everyhings been keyed in
[19:55] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[19:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:55] <steinerhippo> gameforge cut it on desktop without dolphin (strg+x) and then paste it in dolphin somewhere else
[19:55] <dithi_> maverick: there is another partition in the same hard drive?
[19:55] <stdin> lee986321: sudo apt-get remove restricted-manager && sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde     (if you're on gutsy)
[19:55] <livingdaylight> i was reading documentation on kubuntu.com it says i can install kubuntu-desktop from my gnome environment. but isn't a fresh or clean install from kubuntu cd different than adding kubuntu desktop from ubuntu??
[19:55] <livingdaylight> i have ubuntu on desktop and laptop but i'm considering kubuntu for laptop to see what kde looks like
[19:56] <livingdaylight> is Kubuntu basically an iferior os to Ubuntu? the Ubuntu homepage looks soooo much more profesisional than the kubuntu homepage
[19:56] <maverick> dithi_: how can i do it without risking my existing ubuntu installation ?!
[19:56] <tysonsw> Dr_willis I cant find a way to use it
[19:56] <gameforge> stenerhippo: ah ok, lemme try
[19:56] <livingdaylight> would somene like to answer any of my questions?
[19:56] <maverick> dithi_: yeah
[19:56] <livingdaylight> if i want to check out kde should i rather go to pclos?
[19:56] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  use what?  im chatting in other channels. :)
[19:56] <lee986321> yeah i am
[19:56] <livingdaylight> i was reading documentation on kubuntu.com it says i can install kubuntu-desktop from my gnome environment. but isn't a fresh or clean install from kubuntu cd different than adding kubuntu desktop from ubuntu??
[19:56] <maverick> dithi_: 3 other NTFS partitions
[19:56] <yendor> I need to setup my primary screen on 1280x800 and the second sreen to 2048x1024 with desktop extension...it wont let me..can you help me?
[19:56] <gameforge> stenerhippo: Ah hah!  Nope, it didn't remove it from the desktop.
[19:56] <dithi_> livingdaylight: ubuntu and kubuntu has the same base system, the only differences are the desktop and some apps for them
[19:57] <dvayanu> dr_willis: hmm.... killing x switched off the system... i found out i was missing the config package
[19:57] <livingdaylight> i have ubuntu on desktop and laptop but i'm considering kubuntu for laptop to see what kde looks like
[19:57] <livingdaylight> is Kubuntu basically an iferior os to Ubuntu? the Ubuntu homepage looks soooo much more profesisional than the kubuntu homepage
[19:57] <steinerhippo> gameforge: ok thanx, so i think it's a general bug -.-
[19:57] <tysonsw> Dr_willis use universe.. I am trying to use compiz.. but it wont work.. in the compiz channel it said that I needed to activate universe.. but I don't know how
[19:57] <steinerhippo> gameforge:  i hope the fix it
[19:57] <livingdaylight> dithi_, no... already i haer that kubuntu doesn't come with compiz by default like ubuntu does
[19:57] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  fire up the package manager, under the repiositories settings is a check box.
[19:57] <stdin> livingdaylight: that's because we put more effort in to the software than the website ;)
[19:58] <livingdaylight> stdin, but ubuntu manage to put effort into both?
[19:58] <gameforge> steinerhippo: indeed... that's annoying - Dolphin's kinda new, so I'm sure they'll fix it soon
[19:58] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  should be some check boxc's some where.. they seem to always get moved around.
[19:58] <dithi_> livingdaylight: ubuntu already has everything, it's just that the cd contents don't include everything in the repository
[19:58] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: yes it is different just in that other software would not be installed
[19:58] <yendor> ok thanks for not noticing
[19:58] <lrw> I ran the version upgrade from within Adept Manager.... it downloaded all 1406 packages, but then crapped out. is there anyway to finish the upgrade without re-fetching all the packages?
[19:58] <dhq> livingdaylight, well ubuntu+kde=kubuntu so double the features
[19:58] <steinerhippo> gameforge: i also think so, it will part of kde4, they can't let it unfixed
[19:59] <livingdaylight> the question if i add kubuntu desktop it will mess up how my gnome ubuntu looks if i choose to remove it later
[19:59] <dithi_> livingdaylight: it's easy to install compiz fusion in kubuntu
[19:59] <stdin> livingdaylight: canonical designed ubuntu.com, they don't pay for kubuntu.com design
[19:59] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, you wany eye candy like windows , try compiz-fusion
[19:59] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: not necessarily
[19:59] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ stdin like this?
[19:59] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  gnome and kubuntu both will share the same compiz settings. thats somthing to watchout for.
[19:59] <dithi_> livingdaylight: each desktop saves its appearance options in a different place
[19:59] <bourgois> You no longer need to go back to gnome once you try KDE
[20:00] <stdin> lee986321: that's a link to pastebins main page...
[20:00] <livingdaylight> dithi_, i'm sure a long time ago i tried kubuntu desktop and then it messed up my gnome desktop when i removed it
[20:00] <dhq> boeroe, your rite gnome sux
[20:00] <livingdaylight> has that changed?
[20:00] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, what not necessarily?
[20:00] <lee986321> stdin oops corecting it
[20:00] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: not sure what happened before but sure you can run 'ubuntu-desktop' without 'kubuntu-desktop'
[20:00] <livingdaylight>  BluesKaj in ubuntu cd compiz comes with live cd by default, not in kubuntu?
[20:01] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41384/ is this betterreading lol stdin
[20:01] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, so you assure me 100% i can add kubuntu desktop from Ubuntu and kubuntu will come separate from ubuntu without messing or interfiring with it?
[20:01] <stdin> livingdaylight: install "kubuntu-desktop" with aptitude, the if you want to remove it, use aptitude to do it. aptitude keeps track of dependencies better, so when you remove a package with aptitude it'll remove the packages that were installed because of it
[20:02] <dithi_> maverick: you must resize or remove another partition in order to enlarge your ubuntu partition
[20:02] <livingdaylight> i just thought maybe better to do a clean install of kubuntu if i want to try it rather than going the add kubuntu desktop route
[20:02] <ctw> Hi!
[20:02] <lee986321> 12 oclock and it like its 4 pm...erg its getting dark out side
[20:02] <livingdaylight> stdin, thx, that is a good tip
[20:02] <ctw> Does anybody else here have problems with a dual monitor setup in Gutsy?
[20:02] <maverick> dithi_: i know... the question is using what tool?!!
[20:02] <Dr_willis> ctw,  thats a bit vague. :)
[20:02] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: for me it helps to think of them as ubuntuG ubuntuK and ubuntuX (with the others like EDU) but the ubuntu flagship is centered around GNOME. canonical supports kubuntu which is the same base but with kde as the front end
[20:02] <ctw> It worked fine in Feisty, but broke in Gutsy
[20:02] <livingdaylight> ctw, yes
[20:02] <dithi_> maverick: did you try qtparted or gparted?
[20:02] <lee986321> stdin eh I created a thing taht said correction made kinda like a book mark
[20:02] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, not that I'm aware...i wouldn't use it anyway
[20:02] <Dr_willis> ctw,  I have my nvidia cards set with twinview working decently well.
[20:03] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: whichever you installed latest will set the defaults i think so you will then see the 'kubuntu' name when booting
[20:03] <dithi_> ctw: which card do you use?
[20:03] <maverick> dithi_: no, but am using Kubuntu (sorry for not mentioning before) i guess i can use qparted
[20:03] <ardchoille> I cannot seem to find the package: libxine-extracodecs. Has the name changed?