[11:58] <jits> buzzkill: I am able to get to the target server from the gateway pc.. the systems behind the gateway are not able to get to the target system ..
[11:58] <jits> joozers: I am able to get to the target server from the gateway pc.. the systems behind the gateway are not able to get to the target system ..
[12:00] <KnitGal> thanks . . .
[12:00] <riqdiiz> what will happen if i manually change my dynamic ip on a dial up connection?
[12:00] <joozers> jits: the can u ping the pc from behind the gateway ?
[12:01] <crimsonmane> hurricanes and earthquakes, riqdiiz. end of the world.
[12:01] <jits> joozers: yes ping is going thru ..
[12:01] <ryao> What changed in 12.10?
[12:02] <crimsonmane> 12.10 introduced some new bugs that you shouldn't bother with.
[12:02] <defekt> jits: are you using a linux PC as the gateway?
[12:02] <riqdiiz> :)
[12:02] <Pici> !floodbots | Cur10u8
[12:02] <jits> defekt: yes, iptables + ubuntu is my gateway :|
[12:03] <MonkeyDu1t> ryao  here's a review http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-released
[12:03] <defekt> crimsonmane: every new release of any OS comes with buys, with help of the community they get fixed
[12:03] <ryao> MonkeyDu1t: Thanks
[12:03] <crimsonmane> defekt: yes, and they also get some of my sarcasm.
[12:03] <defekt> s/buys/bugs
[12:03] <joozers> jits hmm then check ur iptables
[12:03] <crimsonmane> they git it... you don't. don't worry you'll catch on to me.
[12:04] <jits> joozers: :-) .. i have been struggling with it for 4 hours now.. can you point me to some page which explains this scenario
[12:04] <defekt> jits: have you set up NAT rules?
[12:04] <buzzkill> jits:  test by turning off iptables for a short period of time (like one test)
[12:04] <riqdiiz> why crimsonmane?
[12:05] <crimsonmane> why what, riqdiiz
[12:05] <jits> defekt: I have squid proxy running on the same gateway that works, ping works.. ssh doesn't ..
[12:06] <defekt> u git your not funny? please dont troll the channel
[12:06] <jits> buzzkill: I am able to get to the server from the gateway pc,, it is the iptables, I know.. need help configuring it..
[12:06] <joozers> jits i am not sure but check this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ssh-port-forwarding-with-iptables-and-dnat-477002/
[12:06] <KnitGal> jjkinas - i ran sudo apt-get remove fglrx and now i have the unity back
[12:06] <riqdiiz> what will happen if i manually change my dynamic ip on a dial up connection?
[12:06] <buzzkill> jits:  what joozers said.
[12:06] <jits> joozers: that is just opposite .. I want to go out of the lan network via the gateway ..
[12:06] <defekt> jits: ssh from where within the LAN or WAN to box?
[12:06] <KnitGal> except now, i'm getting an internal error having to do with one of the lens
[12:07] <jjkinas> KnitGal: but now it says low graphics mode right ?
[12:07] <jits> defekt: ssh from lan to the a server on internet via gateway thats my question ..
[12:07] <KnitGal> where do I check on that
[12:07] <Cur10u8> Youtube is blocked in our country . how can i access to youtube?
[12:08] <KnitGal> yeah, the icons look bigger - how do i check to see what graphics mode is it in (kinda new to Ubuntu)?
[12:08] <jjkinas> I dont know
[12:08] <crimsonmane> Cur10u8: spys.ru is a starting point
[12:08] <defekt> Cur10u8: check out www.torproject.org or proxies
[12:08] <buzzkill> jits:  can those client machines go out via the gateway box for http?
[12:08] <Magentium> Anyone else here got a Zenbook ??
[12:08] <jits> http is not allowed, only ping is.. http via squid proxy
[12:09] <Seditio> hi, can anyone help with a package problem? http://paste.planet-nexus.net/index.php?1 thanks
[12:09] <defekt> jits: do all other service work eg web browsing from a LAN pc to web?
[12:09] <buzzkill> jits: might be that the gateway box is not set up to route.. so the gateway box can reach the Internet, but it does not know how to forward packets along.
[12:09] <FlyingElvis> is there a way to turn off the ads when you are in the HUD...frickin annoying
[12:09] <jjkinas> I will try this fix, i guess doing so will remove the ati drivers and go back to the open source ones.
[12:09] <dr_willis> !noads
[12:10] <jjkinas> Just have to wait on playing any games until someone fixes this
[12:10] <jits> buzzkill: but ping is working..
[12:10] <dr_willis> FlyingElvis:  under privacy settings somewhere i recall. or you can remove the shopping lens
[12:10] <FlyingElvis> ok ty
[12:10] <FlyingElvis> ill go searching
[12:10] <jits> defekt: web browsing is via squid proxy .. that works fine..
[12:10] <dr_willis> FlyingElvis:  webupd8 has info on it
[12:10] <buzzkill> jits:  ping from internal host to external or from internal host to gateway?
[12:11] <jits> buzzkill: internal lan system to google.com
[12:11] <joozers> idk may be ip forwarding is not enabled
[12:11] <buzzkill> jits:  but proxying does not require the client to go to the Internet.
[12:11] <defekt> jjkinas: why dont you use the prop drivers from ati/amd
[12:11] <alumno> \JAVI
[12:11] <joozers> idk may be ip forwarding is not enabled jits
[12:11] <defekt> jits: what about other services?
[12:11] <buzzkill> joozers:  that is what I think the issue is.
[12:11] <L3top> Seditio: I take it you added a ppa and was trying to install oracle java, and now everything is terribly wrong?
[12:11] <alumno> ...
[12:11] <jits> buzzkill: the ping works, tracepath doesn't .. does that give you any indication?
[12:11] <joozers> jits http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[12:11] <jjkinas> defekt: they break unity on 12.10
[12:11] <Seditio> L3top, correct, I found it in a lifehacker post :/
[12:11] <riqdiiz> ye i see thanks...
[12:11] <alumno> ...
[12:12] <jits> joozers: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[12:12] <FlyingElvis> dr_willis, privacy is where you fix that  ty for the point
[12:12] <buzzkill> jits:  well, kind of... ping is icmp. ssh is tcp. If you do not have forwarding on, tcp connections will not go past the last hop that knows how to forward packets.
[12:13] <defekt> jjkinas: oh unity .. yuk
[12:14] <jits> joozers: thats taken care of .. i don't think squid works without it.. i just double checked and forwarding is all set ..
[12:14] <gone> hi!!!!
[12:14] <ben__> Wtf
[12:14] <KnitGal> okay  . . . looks like i'm going to have to keep an eyes for drivers that have been fixed to work with 12.10, right, jjkinas?
[12:14] <L3top> Seditio: What I would do, if I were you, is figure out the md5sum of the new tarball, un ar the package, fix it in the control file, package it back up, and finish the install. Every other way out of that I know is even MORE hacky, and you don't end up with what you wanted to begin with.
[12:14] <ben__> How do I get Java to work?!
[12:15] <vak> are there any working weather indicator for Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:15] <kroson> KnitGal: what is your trouble?
[12:15] <jjkinas> KnitGal: seems that way to me
[12:15] <defekt> jits: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[12:15] <buzzkill> jits:  http://linuxaria.com/article/how-to-ubuntu-gateway?lang=en
[12:15] <Seditio> L3top, when I saw this error, I removed the PPA and installed openjava from the software center, but it retries to install every time I do an upgrade / install any other package
[12:16] <L3top> correctomundo
[12:16] <defekt> Seditio: try purging and then installing again
[12:17] <KnitGal> apparently AMD drivers are not compatible with 12.10, kroson
[12:17] <Seditio> defekt, tried, doesn't work
[12:17] <KnitGal> I did sudo apt-remove fglrx and was able to get Unity back
[12:17] <jjkinas> kroson, seems KnitGal was having the same trouble as me and others posting in the forums:   Unity not showing up after installing amd/ati propritary drivers,    I guess removing them brings unity back but then you are running off those open source drivers
[12:17] <kroson> KnitGal: if you are using pre-HD5000 cards, then yes
[12:17] <dr_willis> vak:  i alwyas check out --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[12:17] <jjkinas> kroson:  I am using 6550 and 6670 and it happens here too
[12:17] <KnitGal> my laptop is Compaq Presario CQ62
[12:18] <KnitGal> not sure what version of AMD it is using
[12:18] <kroson> jjkinas: KnitGal oh i see. That's probably because 9.000 is catalyst 12.9, which is a beta driver
[12:18] <kroson> you need to wait for 12.10 which should bue out due later this month
[12:18] <KnitGal> umm . . . 12.10 is out now
[12:18] <gonyere> kroson ubuntu 12.10 released yesterday :p
[12:19] <jjkinas> Not only on the beta driver (which worked on 12.04)   but also the 8x driver does the same thing
[12:19] <KnitGal> what is 9.000?
[12:19] <dr_willis> http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/indicator-weather   works for me kak.
[12:19] <jjkinas> knitgal i will get kink
[12:19] <jjkinas> link*
[12:19] <dr_willis> oops. vak. ;)
[12:19] <kroson> KnitGal: gonyere i am talking about the amd driver version, not ubuntu version
[12:19] <ben__> I want to delete Ubuntu how do I do that???
[12:19] <kroson> the driver for fglrx that ubuntu currently provides is a beta one
[12:19] <ben__> How do I delete ubuntu
[12:20] <kroson> ben__: you delete its' partitions
[12:20] <buzzkill> ben__:  install a different OS
[12:20] <gonyere> ben__ you format and re-install whatever you want
[12:20] <dr_willis> ben__:  delet the partitions, reinstall whatever mbr you need.
[12:20] <kroson> But why would you do such thing?
[12:20] <L3top> Seditio: This is the reason PPAs are not recommended unless they are really trusted.
[12:20] <ben__> I hate this thing :(
[12:20]  * buzzkill thinks ben__ is trolling
[12:20] <L3top> ben__: how do you delete windows?
[12:20] <ben__> I'm not trolling
[12:20] <KnitGal> because  . . . ? ben___
[12:20] <jjkinas> KnitGal: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English      the 12.8 and 12.9 beta drivers :   both do not work for me , they leave unity broken
[12:20] <vak> dr_willis: indicator-weather is too crashy for me:-/
[12:20] <ben__> I would like it if it wasn't so hard to install stuff
[12:20] <dr_willis> Then you have gotten your answer ben__ - repartion then fix the bootloader
[12:21] <KnitGal> I have a Mac OS X-Mountain lion laptop, I have a Win7 laptop. so . . .
[12:21] <dr_willis> vak:  havent seen it crash yet.. but its been running for 5 min. ;P
[12:21] <ben__> I just don't like Ubuntu because it's way too hard to install stuff
[12:21] <kroson> jjkinas: because the are not supposed to work with the new xserver, so you have to wait for a new driver where it works
[12:21] <kroson> *they
[12:21] <vak> dr_willis: for a year here :-)
[12:21] <jrib> ben__: well if that's the isseu, I'd suggest taking a few minutes to learn the proper way to install things as I'd say most agree it's much easier to install things on ubuntu.  Have you learned about the Software Center?
[12:21] <gonyere> ben__ ... whats hard to install?
[12:21] <jjkinas> kroson :  thanks
[12:21] <kroson> ben__: i don't know of any OS where it is easier to install stuff than ubuntu
[12:22] <L3top> ben__: How is it hard? You have synaptic, or you can just type sudo apt-get install <package> in a terminal. Nothing easier.
[12:22] <dr_willis> kroson:  perhaps android. ;)
[12:22] <KnitGal> ben__ . . . I was able to figure out how to install stuff in ubuntu and I'm new to it
[12:22] <ben__> Well
[12:22] <Seditio> L3top, removed /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-java7-installer.prerm and purged, works fine now
[12:22]  * buzzkill reiterates his previous thoughtt
[12:22] <buzzkill> s/tt/t/
[12:22] <dr_willis> kroson:  just noticed the use of the apt: type links on many web sites.. makeing things even easier.  easy to install stuff when things like this work ----->    http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/indicator-weather
[12:22] <kroson> jjkinas: the fglrx driver from the repositories should work though, because it was provided by amd with the support for new ubuntu, so i don't know
[12:22]  * ben__ is rethinking this...
[12:23] <KnitGal> where is the driver from the repository?
[12:23] <kroson> dr_willis: android or iOS then xD
[12:23] <kroson> ben__: what are you going to install if you uninstall ubuntu?
[12:23] <L3top> !yay | Seditio  Was just looking for that prior to engaging troll
[12:23] <KnitGal> thanks for the link, dr_willis . . .
[12:24] <ben__> I have a question then; how do I install Java? It's not working...
[12:24] <kroson> ben__: install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:24] <KnitGal> sudo apt-get remove [name of java package]?
[12:24] <jjkinas> Kroson: ,  Would that be the one installed via the Software Sources tab Additional drivers.    After fresh install , it said restart for drivers to activate on that tab and it came back with no unity still
[12:25] <buzzkill> ben__:  "its not working" provides nothing of use... try: "I am having trouble with java, when I try to run <xxxx> it reports <some error>"
[12:25] <KnitGal> kroson, whats the link to the repository for the fglrx driver?
[12:25] <Kvaks> My laptop's wifi-button (enable/disable) is broken, so I'm stuck with wifi disabled. Any way to enable it by software?
[12:25] <ben__> I don't get errors. It just says I don't have it installed.
[12:25] <kroson> jjkinas: that's an issue with the driver it seems, then. Have you checked if the linux-headers package is installed?
[12:25] <buzzkill> ben__:  see. that even tells us more... 'sudo apt-get install java'
[12:25] <L3top> !java | ben__
[12:26] <kroson> KnitGal: it is in the additional drivers tab in "Software Sources"
[12:26] <jjkinas> kroson:  no  I have not checked that
[12:27] <L3top> ben__: chances are you are trying to run something that is sun java specific. Oracle bought sun java, and lawyered up and had canonical remove it from our repos. You will need to uninstall the java you currently have, and install from source from oracle, because they don't want to play nice with linux. Still isn't that hard.
[12:27] <kroson> i think it should be installed, maybe the system doesn't install it automatically. So try it
[12:27] <jjkinas> thanks kroson
[12:27] <kroson> ben__: what java doesn't work for you? applets, web?
[12:27] <akis> i am running a freshly installed xubuntu 12.04 on my desktop after i was disappointed from unity/gnome3. everything is running perfect and smoothly but when i am quiting chromium the system freezes for 35 seconds and then runs as usual. ok thats not a big problem because i am using firefox 16.0 which is smooth and fast (maybe now as fast as chromium it is) but i am wondering why appeared this issue. Under ubuntu 12.04 i run for an month Chromium
[12:27] <akis> without any problem. I am running also chromium in two notebooks under xubutnu 12.04 and nothing is going bad. why i have this problem in my desktop? is there anything to do with my accelarator card (nvidia)? i am using the reccomended form systme driver at additional drivers and everything is ok. any other idea or advise?
[12:27] <Flynsarmy> Trying to install 12.10 on dell xps 15z (nvidia optimus). I set both acpi=off and nomodeset but adding nomodeset just took me to a ubuntu@ubuntu prompt for 10 secs before the screen goes black. any ideas how to install?
[12:27] <KnitGal> hmm . . . i'm seeing "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[12:27] <kroson> jjkinas: if it doesn't work even then, it should be a unity/fglrx bug
[12:28] <kroson> KnitGal: install the one for AMD
[12:28] <L3top> how did you install crhomium akis?
[12:28] <KnitGal> not getting a list of drivers
[12:28] <KnitGal> when I'm in "additional drivers"
[12:28] <kroson> KnitGal: so your card is not supported by the newer versions of the drivers, you have to use the opensource ones
[12:28] <L3top> KnitGal: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:28] <kroson> which are already installed on your system
[12:29] <akis> L3top: from ubuntu software center. all the times i used this service to install chromium.
[12:29] <ben__> You know what
[12:29] <ben__> I'm gonna multi-system
[12:29] <carlisle_> akis: does this only happen with xfce on 12.04?
[12:29] <ben__> Windows for games and Ubuntu for everything else
[12:29] <L3top> akis: just checking... a LOT of people install a repo and go at it that way rather than using what is in official repos... often causing problems
[12:30] <KnitGal> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[12:30] <kroson> ben__: that's what i doo, too :)
[12:30] <akis> carlisle: yep. only with xcfe, on this machine. not with gnome/unity, not in other machines running xubuntu 12.04
[12:30] <ben__> Good to know other people do it, thanks :D
[12:30] <kroson> KnitGal: yep, 4xxx series, not supported
[12:30] <compdoc> nee?
[12:30] <L3top> Be forewarned ben__ that installing windows is going to blow up grub, and you will need to fix it after windows stomps on it.
[12:30] <KnitGal> ah, gotcha
[12:31] <CXIV> Can I use Gnome 3 without hardware acceleration?
[12:31] <KnitGal> understandable, since this laptop is about 4 years old or so
[12:31] <KnitGal> i think
[12:31] <akis> L3top: i used the same repo in my previous installation for ubuntu 1.04 and for my other 2 notebooks. is ti possible that somenthing changed in couple of days?
[12:31] <KnitGal> it's one of the low-end laptop
[12:31] <L3top> ben__: if you are starting from scratch... it is easiest just to install windows on the whole drive, then install ubuntu letting ubuntu repartition and write grub loader.
[12:31] <kroson> KnitGal: if you are not using ubuntu for 3d intensive games, you will be fine with those drivers
[12:31] <KnitGal> no big deal since i'm not a gamer, anyway
[12:32] <kroson> https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx?field.series_filter=quantal You could also try this at your own risk. I have not tested this myself.
[12:32] <L3top> KnitGal: what version of ubuntu are you on, sorry?
[12:32] <KnitGal> 12.10 now
[12:32] <CXIV> Is it worth to use Gnome 3 without acceleration?
[12:32] <ben__> How will I fix the Grub?
[12:32] <L3top> Oh I really hope the fglrx version in quantal isn't the one that dropped the hd 2xxx -4xxx series
[12:33] <L3top> KnitGal: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed
[12:33] <KnitGal> nothng instaled
[12:33] <carlisle_> akis: if xfce is the only thing different on your machine you might want to try asking in #xfce to see if they know
[12:33] <KnitGal> i did remove fglrx earlier
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: returns '(none)'    ?
[12:34] <KnitGal> no returns at all
[12:34] <L3top> oh... why did you do that?
[12:34] <of1> Anyone installed snort <IP_ADDRESS> from source please?
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: capital I
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: capital i
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed
[12:34] <akis> carlisle: ok.
[12:34] <KnitGal> because . . . I wasn't getting Unity loaded
[12:35] <KnitGal> once i removed fglrx, i was able to get Unity loaded
[12:35] <auronandace> L3top: or grep -i installed
[12:35] <jjkinas> I had to do the same thing to get unity to load and I am on Radeon HD 6550  /  ubuntu 12.10
[12:35] <L3top> of course ;)
[12:35] <diverdude> I have installed a huawei modem in my machine, and i would like to be able to dial up using that modem. How can i do that ? (terminal only) And first, how do i see what modem it actually is?
[12:36] <L3top> jjkinas: does your additional drivers show anything jjkinas?
[12:36] <of1> I installed snort latest from source but this is not logging any alert to the alert file. The "alert" file is always empty. Anyone can help me please?
[12:36] <jjkinas> Yes It shows the two that showed up in 12.04      one worked and one did not on 12.04                          on 12.10 they both dont work
[12:37] <L3top> of1: were you root when you installed it of1? check the permissions of the alert file
[12:37] <SkippersBoss> Any one else getting restricted hardware recognised by the successor to Jockey ?
[12:38] <L3top> hmmm... well that doesn't bode well KnitGal.
[12:38] <L3top> jjkinas: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep -i candidate
[12:38] <of1> L3top, Yeah . I also tried with -l /home/of1/Documents but same
[12:38] <diverdude> when i insert my usb device i cannot find it in /dev. Why?
[12:39] <KnitGal> just ran that and i get Candidate: 2:9:000-0ubuntu3
[12:39] <L3top> of1: ll /home/of1/Documents/alert  (or whatever the alert file name/path is)
[12:39] <dhanasekaran> How to reload /etc/environment without rebooting?
[12:40] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to reload /etc/environment without rebooting?
[12:40] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to reload /etc/environment without rebooting?
[12:40] <of1> L3top, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 19 08:31 Documents/alert
[12:40] <L3top> !patience | dhanasekaran
[12:40] <jrib> dhanasekaran: what did you change?
[12:41] <L3top> sudo chown of1: /home/of1/Documents/alert
[12:41] <danny> is there a simple program to install .tar.gz files?
[12:41] <dhanasekaran> jrib, HADOOP_CMD="/usr/bin/hadoop"
[12:41] <L3top> danny: tarballs are sort of like zip files. You install their contents in many different ways.
[12:42] <jrib> danny: you generally want to avoid installing .tar.gz yourself. You should try to use the repositories whenever possible.  What are you trying to install exactly?
[12:42] <of1> L3top, i am running the snort as root ... Okay... Doing it
[12:42] <danny> I extracted it now I don't know what to do with it
[12:42] <jrib> dhanasekaran: just log out and back in.  If you only need the variable set for a particular instance of a shell, then you can just source the file
[12:42] <danny> SRWare iron
[12:43] <danny> it is a browser
[12:43] <dhanasekaran> jrib,  it's same like .bashrc correct
[12:43] <dhanasekaran> jrib, It will not take variable
[12:43] <L3top> danny: there is almost always a README file explaining how to install
[12:43] <jrib> dhanasekaran: except /etc/environment is system-wide and is sourced when you login
[12:43] <jrib> dhanasekaran: I don't know what you mean by "It will not take variable"
[12:44] <danny> ok looking in the folder now
[12:44] <of1> L3top, empty!
[12:45] <diverdude> i have installed a ubuntu server, terminal only. is it actually possible to put in a desktop environment like gnome fairly easily?
[12:45] <StevenR> diverdude: yes, what desktop env do you want?
[12:45] <L3top> Ok of1... worth a shot. I am unfamiliar with the program, was just trying to look at it from general terms.
[12:45] <jrib> diverdude: yep, just install it with apt-get
[12:45] <philinux> diverdude: yep just install ubntu-desktop
[12:45] <philinux> for instance
[12:46] <of1> L3top, Okay
[12:46] <iceroot> diverdude: then you could install the desktop version directly, the only difference for server is that the DE is missing
[12:47] <diverdude> iceroot: yeah i know...but now i have installed a lot on the server and i dont wanna redo it...just need to put in DE also somehow
[12:47] <danny> no readme
[12:47] <StevenR> diverdude: do you want the unity desktop? or some other desktop env?
[12:48] <danny> many .pak files
[12:48] <diverdude> StevenR: does not matter so much...unity is fine i think
[12:49] <researcher123> I caqnt upgrade form 12.04 to 12.10 Please HELP
[12:49] <carlisle_> researcher123: you're going to have be more descriptive than that, try describing the problem and providing error messages
[12:49] <StevenR> diverdude: well, it's up to you :) for unity, use "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", for KDE, replace ubuntu with kde, for XFCE replace ubuntu with xubuntu
[12:50] <StevenR> (in the command of course)
[12:50] <k1l_> researcher123: you need to change the upgrade prompt fro LTS to normal
[12:50] <diverdude> stevanr: ok thats nice...and can i disable it again later if i want?
[12:50] <StevenR> diverdude: yes
[12:51] <researcher123> carlisle_: I cant see any button from Upgrade after I check Update manager
[12:51] <Eagleman> Some one knows what the purpose of these files ( 01.pem ) are in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys/  ?
[12:52] <StevenR> Eagleman: they're certificates most likely
[12:52] <researcher123> is there a Command Line for upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04?
[12:52] <Eagleman> Used for?
[12:52] <StevenR> researcher123: do-release-upgrade I think
[12:52] <Eagleman> I have been unable to find their purpose so far. they are just there
[12:52] <carlisle_> researcher123: see k1l_'s response
[12:52] <StevenR> Eagleman: do you use openvpn?
[12:53] <Eagleman> Yes
[12:53] <StevenR> Eagleman: then you might need them, depending on your openvpn settings
[12:53] <Eagleman> I created them with ./build-key client i guess
[12:53] <Eagleman> stevanr thats my question i dont know where i need them for and how to use them
[12:54] <researcher123> k1l_:how to do that
[12:54] <dyd> what distro would you suggest if you want a clean and fast os?
[12:54] <SpaceAviator> dyd debian
[12:54] <dyd> the minimum video effects etc
[12:54] <bazhang> SpaceAviator, this is ubuntu support, lets stay within the ubuntu family on that
[12:55] <bazhang> !lubuntu > dyd
[12:55] <SpaceAviator> oh
[12:55] <k1l_> researcher123: open software-properties-gtk and go to the 3rd tab
[12:55] <SpaceAviator> dyd: lubuntu or xubuntu
[12:55] <k1l_> dyd: as you ask in a ubuntu channel go with some ubuntu taste. like lubuntu
[12:55] <dyd> SpaceAviator: thanks
[12:55] <dyd> k1l_: i'll check it out!
[12:55] <Eagleman> How do i recover items removed with rm ?
[12:55] <naimar> hello all, I am searching for a network analysis tool for a home network but, I found a couple of them but all I can capture is traffic of my own local machine and not a specific host on my network
[12:56] <SpaceAviator> When I boot 12.10 off live usb I get a splash screen and it boots of great but after install the splash screen isnt there. My monitor literally goes into power saving mode for three seconds during the boot process and then the login screen shows up. What gives?
[12:56] <drostie> Have people been reporting that the CD does not boot for them or is it likely that it's just a CD burning error?
[12:56] <L3top> anybody know anything about gnomebuntu, or gnubuntu or whatever it got named? It was supposed to be released yesterday as well...
[12:56] <drostie> Eagleman: you generally don't, but there may be software packages which can scan the disk.
[12:56] <SpaceAviator> drostie: likely cd burnign error
[12:56] <bazhang> drostie, 12.10?
[12:56] <drostie> bazhang: yep.
[12:56] <bazhang> drostie, its 800mb
[12:56] <L3top> drostie: try USB. It is faster and more reliable.
[12:56] <drostie> going to try unity again and see if I like it yet. ^_^
[12:57] <SpaceAviator> bazhang: any idea about my problem
[12:57] <researcher123> k1l_: done
[12:57] <researcher123> k1l_: Successfull.Thanks a lot
[12:58] <joozers> use slow burning so slow for better resualts
[12:58] <Eagleman> I would like to know what these files do: (01.pem 02.pem ) in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys. I think I made them my self with: ./build-key client But I don’t know what those files do.
[12:59] <kush> i am so new here
[12:59] <joozers> dont delete those each use u make or server has a .pem
[12:59] <kush> saying hi to you all
[12:59] <joozers> user*
[12:59] <SpaceAviator> When I boot 12.10 off live usb I get a splash screen and it boots of great but after install the splash screen isnt there. My monitor literally goes into power saving mode for three seconds during the boot process and then the login screen shows up. What gives?
[12:59] <SpaceAviator> actually scratch that
[12:59] <SpaceAviator> people with 12.10 do you see plytmouth during boot?
[13:00] <Eagleman> joozers what?
[13:00] <SpaceAviator> after install
[13:00] <XRS1> Unable to mount USB mass storage device. "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported"
[13:00] <XRS1> mount does not work, umount does not work. desktop icon report volume non existant
[13:01] <L3top> SpaceAviator: you might remove quiet splash from kernel boot params... and replace with text, if you want to see the boot process... or you might dpkg --reconfigure plymouth. I have not seen your specific issue before... so not really sure.
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> L3top: I did try removing quiet and splash from params. Didnt do anything
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> still the black screen
[13:01] <SuperLag> What's the +mac in some of the file names for the Ubuntu downloads?
[13:01] <L3top> replace with text SpaceAviator.
[13:01] <KnitGal> okay . . . how do i trigger web apps in 12.10 - it doesn't seem to be enabled
[13:01] <XRS1> that uh... "hassles of Windows 8" slogan working out for ya?
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> okay
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> L3top: brb
[13:02] <L3top> SpaceAviator: what is your gpu out of curiosity? lspci -nn | grep VGA
[13:02] <SpaceAviator> L3top: ATi 7850
[13:02] <L3top> That isn't the output :P
[13:02] <joozers> Eagleman each user or server you create has a file with .pem stored there if u deleted the pem the user or server wont be able to connect to the vpn server its the certificate for the user or server
[13:03]  * L3top deals mostly with pciids. Ah lika da verbose output
[13:03] <SpaceAviator> L3top: let me reboot back into it :)
[13:03] <r33P33r> hey
[13:03] <r33P33r> need some help please
[13:03] <joozers> r33P33r with what ?
[13:03] <r33P33r> have upgraded to 12.10 but get ugly window bar
[13:04] <r33P33r> googled alot but nothing
[13:04] <r33P33r> all this on gnome 3
[13:04] <elderman> Hello, I am having trouble configuring my touchpad in Lubuntu 12.10.  There are no configuration options as far as I can tell.  The problem's similar to bug 527890, but not the same.  This is the first time I've had trouble with my touchpad on an Ubuntu variant..
[13:04] <elderman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/527890
[13:04] <joozers> lolz thats why i am still with 9.10 xP
[13:05] <naimar> hello all, I am searching for a network analysis tool (ubuntu) for a home network but, I found a couple of them but all I can capture is traffic of my own local machine and not a specific host on my network
[13:05] <gordonjcp> naimar: aha
[13:05] <gordonjcp> naimar: you need wireshark, and a switch that you can configure to have a monitor port
[13:06] <Guest62876> ciao
[13:06] <naimar> this switch can be a linux machine?
[13:06] <yeats> !it | Guest62876
[13:06] <joozers> naimar so u want to do something like mitm attack ?
[13:06] <naimar> no
[13:07] <joozers> then wireshark should do the trick
[13:07] <naimar> ok thank you very much
[13:10] <SpaceAviator> L3top, the text didnt show e any text while booting up. Took me to a login shell.
[13:10] <SpaceAviator> Now what else did you want?
[13:12] <freegrep> The encryption option during installation of 12.10... There is no cipher choice. I assume this means it uses AES128? If I'm building my own custom installation media, where should I be looking in order to change the cipher?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:13] <cire> How do I start a browser on bootup in X, without display manager & user login?
[13:14] <SpaceAviator> L3top, ping
[13:15] <SpaceAviator> anyone else having plymouth problems in 12.10?
[13:15] <Tony_Stark> I need some help with a gnome problem.  I updated from 3.2.4 to <IP_ADDRESS> last │ buz
[13:15] <Tony_Stark>                   │                    | night.  Now now matter whether I am in classic mode or regular my menus are  │ cento_
[13:15] <Tony_Stark>                   │                    | not quite right.  The task bar buttons are darker than the rest of the bar   │ clem_
[13:15] <Tony_Stark>                   │                    | and washed out on some themes.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[13:15] <FloodBot1> Tony_Stark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <Tony_Stark> I have a problem with my menus.  I updated gnome last night and now my menus and taskbar buttons are darker than the rest of the bar and some themes have them completely washed out.
[13:16] <L3top> sorry... I am now deep in stuff SpaceAviator... going to be away for a bit. Ping me if you find a solution. Again try dpkg --reconfigure. Seems like plymouth display is barking something your monitor cannot understand so it goes no signal.
[13:16] <excalibr> Is anyone else having problem with not being able to change window titlebar font?
[13:16] <excalibr> in 12.10
[13:16] <Tony_Stark> Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[13:16] <DJones> cire: Sounds like you need something like a kiosk mode, this might help http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/?ALLSTEPS although its for an older version of Ubuntu, but maybe get you started
[13:17] <Braber01> for some reason anthy has defaulted to Katakana, how can I change it back to Hirigana?
[13:17] <indieross> cire, http://uzbl.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbl
[13:18] <Tony_Stark> I have also lost checks in boxes and they are now higlighted.  What can I do to get things back to the way they were?
[13:18] <indieross> cire, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers_for_Unix_and_Unix-like_operating_systems
[13:18] <cire> DJones: indieross: thanksd a lot, IO will dig into that
[13:19] <indieross> cire, and you might want to look at starting one of thos programs as a service in a specific run-level
[13:20] <Tony_Stark> hello eveyone...can anyone give me some advice?
[13:20] <indieross> Tony_Stark, say perhaps to drugs
[13:21] <cire> indieross: Yeah, that's what I am thinking about. Ubuntu Kisosk seems to use display manager and autologin somehow, right? I think I can avoid that. I do not install any ubuntu desktop packages. Just plain installation + xorg + browser
[13:21] <cire> then I have to think where to hook into starzup process
[13:22] <diverdude> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop tajes foreeveeeeeer
[13:22] <diverdude> takes
[13:22] <indieross> cire, http://greeennotebook.com/2010/06/run-your-program-as-a-service-with-upstart-in-ubuntu/
[13:22] <cire> indieross: thank you
[13:23] <basketballstar> how can i use 12.10 web apps in chromium
[13:24] <indieross> cire, http://nixgeeks.com/how-to-enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-server/
[13:25] <akis> which is the recommended driver for xubuntu 12.04? this one which the system provides as recommended or maybe version 173? which is the difference?
[13:25] <indieross> cire, note the tty is the run level, and i believe just as the desktop the server boots you into tty 7
[13:26] <indieross> akis, the nvidia driver?
[13:26] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. when I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again.
[13:26] <akis> indieross: yes
[13:27] <indieross> akis, run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa then sudo apt-get update
[13:27] <basketballstar> anyone
[13:28] <akis> ok thanks. is this repo an official and safe one?
[13:28] <indieross> akis, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and finally sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[13:28] <indieross> akis that ppa has the most up to date xorg and graphics drivers
[13:29] <indieross> akis, sorry i meant sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:29] <akis> ok. thanks. i have already installed a driver in my system recommended from Xubuntu 12.04. is that a problem?
[13:29] <indieross> no
[13:29] <gaetano_> hi everyone
[13:32] <akis> indieross: the system discovered upadates. do i proceed using update manager or do i proceed manually?
[13:32] <ElioT> 5vs5 off
[13:32] <indieross> either or is fine
[13:32] <gaetano_> someone knows how to customize ubuntu studio !!??
[13:32] <akis> indieross: so both have the same result?
[13:32] <ElioT> 5VS5 OFF
[13:32] <indieross> gaetano_, ubuntu tweak
[13:32] <Eagleman> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:32] <Eagleman>     host mail.a******.com [***.***.***.***]:
[13:32] <Eagleman>     550 "Reject:008h"
[13:32] <indieross> akis, yup
[13:33] <Eagleman> Why is it failing?
[13:33] <tomillares> Hello, I have problems setting up ufw to skype, any help?
[13:33] <larseirik> hi. my desktop-icons are all gone after upgrade to 12.10. they are in the desktop-folder, but not on mydesktop.when i right-click on the desktop, nothing happens.
[13:34] <mph_> hey
[13:34] <indieross> akis, actully run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal
[13:34] <indieross> to upgrade
[13:34] <jrib> larseirik: the notes mention some nautilus crash bugs.  Check them out and see if starting nautilus returns your desktop
[13:34] <jrib> !notes | larseirik
[13:35] <akis> indieross: now update manager works and updates. then do i have to run the above?
[13:35] <indieross> i would, just to mnake sure everything updated properly
[13:35] <jpmh> I used to be able to connect to a remote network machine and have a mounted drive over ssh - how do I do this with 12.4?
[13:35] <gaetano_> indierros thanx! im totally new with ubuntu!
[13:36] <indieross> jpmh, look into sshfs
[13:36] <jrib> jpmh: I've always used sshfs for that.  There's probably a gui way too in nautilus
[13:36] <gaetano_> indieross thanx! im totally new with ubuntu!!
[13:36] <akis> ok. when it stops i will run it. i can see that is downloading and installing nvidia-current among many otehr files
[13:37] <Eagleman> 550 "Reject:008h" what does that mean?
[13:37] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[13:37] <akis> indieross: i wish i want loose my freshly installed system!
[13:37] <Wiz_KeeD> scripts that should be ran by apache have the www-data user and www-data group in them, how can i make it so that i can also edit the files with my personal user?
[13:37] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys, what would be the fastest way to display the outgoing connection addresses of a target ip address on a network using ubuntu?
[13:37] <EarlGray> Hello all. I am maintaining a proprietary product with ubuntu installer. The thing I need to do is detecting the firewall configuration and adding my service to it. Is there any hope to cope iptables? How many people do use it without ufw?
[13:38] <jpmh> jrib: found it - forgot about the hidden tabs at the top - just use Home Folder and then File
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[13:38] <truexfan81> when is the laptop overheating going to be fixed in 12.04?
[13:38] <indieross> jpmh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS look at the fstab bit
[13:39] <mindbender1> how can I correct this message from apt-get: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[13:39] <pestilence> bah, why did 12.10 remove my custom keyboard shortcuts :-(
[13:39] <vitimiti> o/
[13:39] <indieross> that will automatically mount the sshfs on startup
[13:39] <indieross> jpmh ^
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:39] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: put yourself into the www-data group?
[13:39] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried that k1l_ :( didn't work
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> used googled tutorials
[13:40] <akis> indieross: finished. i am going for a restart. do i have to do anything before it to be sure that the systme will restart normally?
[13:40] <truexfan81> the overheating i'm referring to is a kernel bug
[13:40] <truexfan81> so i guess i'm asking when it will be updated to a kernel that has the fix
[13:41] <jrib> truexfan81: you should be asking on the bug's page on launchpad
[13:41] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: it's still giving me the message. I'm trying to install php5-curl and I'm getting --The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:41] <mindbender1>  php5-curl : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[13:41] <mindbender1> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[13:41] <vietpham> Sam ?
[13:41] <pestilence> oh this is grand.  when will ubuntu ever have functional 3d graphics with a dual monitor setup?  when I switch monitors, none of my open windows are visible until I click into one of them.  which is hard to do, considering they are invisible!
[13:42] <pestilence> they seem to be "hidden" behind the desktop!  how weird.
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  try sudo apt-get update, first
[13:42] <pestilence> how do you disable the 3d effects in 12.10?  I had them disabled in 12.04 because they don't work.
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  try myUnity
[13:43] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: what is that?
[13:44] <pestilence> and why does firefox keep asking me to "install" websites?  how irritating!
[13:44] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: still happening. does it have anything to do with my sources.list?
[13:44]  * pestilence needs moar coffee to deal with this upgrade
[13:45] <mindbender1> maybe it's not accessing the right repo?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  make sure you don't have old sources, that are no longer used or updated
[13:45] <mindbender1> what the command to clear old cache again?
[13:46] <pestilence> mindbender1: apt-get clean
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  type sudo apt-get update | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[13:46] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: there is no "myunity" in 12.10.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  just noticed, too, it's gone, pity
[13:47] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: ha!  so the question remains, how do you disable these dysfunctional graphics effects?
[13:47] <Eagleman> I would like to know what the purpose of these files are: (01.pem 02.pem ) in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys. I think I made them my self with: ./build-key client But I don’t know what those files do.
[13:48] <pestilence> Eagleman: those are your private keys I believe...
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  i don't like/use unity, but i'll see what i find
[13:48] <wols> Eagleman: they are the encryption keys
[13:48] <Eagleman> pestilence but as far i know they are not being used anywhere
[13:48] <pestilence> Eagleman: you are running a server?  they are used by your clients to connect..
[13:48] <wols> Eagleman: http://serverfault.com/questions/9708/what-is-a-pem-file-and-how-does-it-differ-from-other-openssl-generated-key-file
[13:49] <wols> pestilence: public ones
[13:49] <Eagleman> pestilence no they use .crt files
[13:49] <Eagleman> not .pem
[13:49] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: still happening
[13:49] <pestilence> wols: you're right.
[13:49] <mindbender1> I think I may have mistakenly held broken packages
[13:49] <rich_> Is 12.10 server out yet?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  type sudo apt-get update | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[13:49] <mindbender1> according to the msg
[13:50] <pestilence> Eagleman: mv 01.pem 01.pem.now_openvpn_doesnt_work  and see what happens!
[13:50] <pestilence> (you may have to restart your vpn server)
[13:50] <rich_> http://pastebin.com/dW9CAQJ1  I dont get the option to upgrade :(
[13:50] <Eagleman> pestilence nothing, thats why i am asking about their purpose
[13:50] <Eagleman> In know that the .csr files are used to sign them for a .crt file
[13:50] <pestilence> Eagleman: both of your clients can still connect when you have moved the pem files?
[13:51] <Eagleman> but i am not sure about the .pem files yet
[13:51] <pestilence> (and restarted the vpn service)
[13:51] <Eagleman> pestilence yes becuase they use .crt and .key files, none of them are .pem
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> rich_  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[13:52] <drostie> .pem stands for "privacy-encoded mail" or so, I'd check what's inside the file with a text editor if you can.
[13:52] <drostie> It may well be a private key, which you wouldn't want to delete.
[13:52] <rich_> MonkeyDust: should I not be able to upgrade my existing install?
[13:52] <pestilence> Eagleman: i'm not certain about this.  I think the .crt is your server's certificate.  the .key file is the client's private key, which is needed only on the client.  the .pem is the public key, needed on the server.
[13:53] <teddyp1cker> anyone tested wayland in 12.10 ?
[13:53] <SEtx> can someone help me with setup of samba4 on 12.10 server or is there some other channel for server?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> rich_  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:53] <peto_> Does the new Grub in Ubuntu detect a double boot Windows 7 / Windows 8 and installs Ubuntu 12.10 along both of them?
[13:53] <Eagleman> pestilence they are not used on the server either
[13:53] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: i get the msg -- You will have to enable the component called 'universe' . Do you know which repo I need to have for that?
[13:54] <pestilence> Eagleman: please explain how you determined that
[13:54] <joozers> Eagleman it is used but but bydefualt its not
[13:54] <drostie> mindbender1: it *is* a repo.
[13:54] <Eagleman> pestilence this is all i use with openvpn: http://pastebin.com/8VK50SEf
[13:54] <Eagleman> no easy-rsa created them and i have no idea why and for what they are used
[13:55] <drostie> mindbender1: either look for a "software sources" option or else edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add universe to the deb lists.
[13:55] <joozers> Eagleman for e.g if u made a client and u want to delete him from the vpn so he cant access it u have to do some thing that is going to use the pem files (i dont remember exactly what it was but this is what i use the pem files for)
[13:55] <pestilence> Eagleman: i understand that it is not referenced explicitly in the config file.  but you should perhaps read on how public/private keypairs work.
[13:56] <Eagleman> joozers its called revoking
[13:56] <Eagleman> But also tried that
[13:57] <drostie> Eagleman: open the damn thing up in a text editor, what does it say?
[13:57] <joozers> Eagleman xP yeah that its been a long time since i last used my vpn server
[13:57] <rockit> Hi guys, The lightdm window manager has crashed twice in the past 5 minutes. Is there any way to view the logs?
[13:58] <joozers> tail dmesg
[13:58] <pestilence> rockit: have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[13:58] <gaetano_> wich tweaks i need to download for ubuntu studio!!??
[13:58] <rockit> I've not I will go investigate now, Thanks pestilence
[13:59] <drostie> gaetano_: medibuntu?
[13:59] <gaetano_> thanks!
[13:59] <estaban> i on 12.04 this how u get official nvidia drivers? sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ??
[14:00] <Eagleman> drostie: http://pastebin.com/bCArwPjc
[14:00] <gaetano_> with medibuntu can i customize the desktop in 3d??
[14:01] <pestilence> gah.  why does everything have to break.  why won't empathy connect to gmail anymore???
[14:01] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289369/
[14:02] <drostie> Eagleman: okay, that is a certificate. When you use a protocol like TLS (/SSL) you have to exchange public keys. In theory this requires a chain of trust but it looks like your certificates are being self-signed which is also OK in principle but not always in practice.
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  i see a mix of i386 and amd64, not sure if it could be that
[14:03] <Braden`> Hello
[14:03] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: is there a way to restrict it to amd64 only
[14:03] <Braden`> What version of mysql is on the development apt?
[14:04] <kroson> Hi, is there already a way to make a ubuntu 12.10 bootable usb stick in windows? thanks
[14:04] <diverdude> I have installed a modem on my ubuntu machine....The problem is its REALLY slow....It cannot be the connection since i have tested it on a mac just next to it where the speed is fine. Why is it SO slow, basically not even working on my ubuntu machine?
[14:04] <dr_willis> kroson:  the pendrivelinux web site has numerous tools to do that
[14:05] <Eagleman> drostie but those specific .pem files are not use with my TLS handshake
[14:05] <mindbender1> my sources have not mention of i386
[14:05] <Eagleman> becuase i already have my .crt and .key files
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  there is a way, but i'm not sure how, i guess someone else can help you better with that
[14:06] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: ok thanks you've been of help
[14:06] <drostie> Eagleman: well, try renaming it and see if you can do TLS handshakes without it; if you can then you're right; if stuff breaks then you'll get error messages.
[14:06] <rockit> X.Org X Server 1.11.3
[14:06] <rockit> Release Date: 2011-12-16
[14:06] <rockit> Whoops Sorry
[14:07] <mindbender1> is there a way to automatically undo any holding of a package
[14:07] <Braden`> When will Ubuntu update to MySQL 5.6?
[14:07] <Eagleman> drostie i can like i said they are not specified in my config files, i only want to know why they are created and for what they are being used
[14:08] <pestilence> what did they do to empathy to make it stop working with google jabber chat?
[14:08] <gaetano_> why my 3d blender doesnt open!???
[14:08] <dr_willis> gaetano_:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages
[14:08] <pestilence> it seems like they tried to "integrate" it with the desktop, which i have no interest in doing.  the old "jabber chat" way of doing things no longer works.
[14:09] <Braden`> When will Ubuntu update to MySQL 5.6?
[14:09] <dr_willis> !info mysql
[14:09] <Eagleman> !info mysql-server
[14:09] <Braden`> ubottu:  It does.  I looked it up.  Its 5.5 though
[14:10] <Braden`> oh
[14:10] <Braden`> right
[14:10] <pestilence> Braden`: then you'll have to wait for ubuntu+1 at the very least
[14:10] <Braden`> ubuntu+1?
[14:10] <pestilence> Braden`: 13.04
[14:10] <dr_willis> The next release. or use a PPA or source Braden`
[14:10] <dr_willis> since 12.10 just came out. ;)
[14:10] <Braden`> hmm
[14:11] <Braden`> I will just download the binaries
[14:11] <pestilence> are there any good alternatives to empathy for google chat?
[14:11] <Braden`> and then adjust it so it uses Ubuntu's structure
[14:12] <mindbender1> when a package is marked as held is there no simple way of saying stop holding back this package
[14:12] <diverdude> any1?
[14:12] <diverdude> I have installed a modem on my ubuntu machine....The problem is its REALLY slow....It cannot be the connection since i have tested it on a mac just next to it where the speed is fine. Why is it SO slow, basically not even working on my ubuntu machine?
[14:13] <dr_willis> what kind of 'modem' diverdude ?
[14:13] <peto_> bfn
[14:13] <pestilence> diverdude: is it a winmodem (software modem)?
[14:13] <diverdude> dr_willis: its called: zte mf665c
[14:13] <dr_willis> diverdude:  so this is a dial up modem? a cable modem? a 3g/4g modem? .........
[14:13] <diverdude> dr_willis: it should be a 3g modem
[14:14] <pestilence> oh, haha
[14:14] <dr_willis> thats why i asked what kind. its a bit of a broad term pestilence  ;)
[14:15] <gaetano_> dr_willis: ok i found: query version failed
[14:15] <diverdude> dr_willis: do you know what could be wrong?
[14:15] <gaetano_> verify oper gl system
[14:15] <dr_willis> diverdude:  never used one ., no idea.
[14:16] <SnapSnap> If I update to 12.10 from 12.04 is full-disk encryption available to me, or is it only available through the USB/DVD installer?
[14:16] <gaetano_> what sould i do??
[14:16] <dr_willis> gaetano_:  sounds like your 3d drivers are not working properly
[14:17] <gaetano_> dr_willis: ah ok!
[14:18] <Kvaks> How do I access grub at boot time when I don't have a grub menu? It just jumps right from BIOS init to Linux booting.
[14:18] <gaetano_> thanx
[14:18] <dr_willis> Kvaks:  hold shift to make grub not 'hide'
[14:18] <dr_willis> or disable the hidden option inits settings Kvaks
[14:19] <dr_willis> !grub2
[14:19] <Kvaks> dr_willis: Thanks, I will try that.
[14:21] <jaredforsyth> Is there a way to run the "ubuntu installer" not from a CD, but from the normal OS? I want to install 12.10 to a different hard drive than the one I'm running on, so that wouldn't cause problems
[14:21] <jaredforsyth> [I'm on 12.04 right now]
[14:21] <dr_willis> jaredforsyth:  i dont think thats possible.
[14:21] <gaetano_> dr_willis: so thats why even my desktop cube doesnt work! cause the the 3d drives no working properly isn it!?
[14:22] <dr_willis> jaredforsyth:  you could perhaps use 'debootstrap' but thats a big hassle.
[14:22] <dr_willis> gaetano_:  unity effects would need 3d drivers normally. so id say yes.
[14:22] <dr_willis> of course the cube dosent work well with unity. :)
[14:22] <SpaceAviator> Anyone else have plymouth issues on an ATi card?
[14:23] <serban> yep
[14:23] <pablo81> hola alguien habla español?
[14:23] <DJones> !es | pablo81
[14:24] <pablo81> gracias
[14:24] <serban> SpaceAviator: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx it's not working...yet
[14:25] <newbie|4> Hello
[14:26] <HOYGAN> is this ubuntu 12.10 the final or release candidate?
[14:26] <pablo81> en ese canal encontrare mucha ayuda, solo estoy yo
[14:26] <pablo81> jaja
[14:26] <HOYGAN> anyone has installed ubuntu 12.10 in a machine with UEFI active?
[14:26] <gaetano_> dr_willis: so do u suggest do uninstall my 3d drivers and install them again!?
[14:26] <HOYGAN> mine hasnt got the option to dissable it
[14:27] <larseirik> hi again. My desktop-icon's are gone after upgrade to 12.10. I've read the release-notes, but it didn't seem to help. There something about nautilus, but I'm not sure how to fix it..
[14:27] <jaredforsyth> HOYGAN:  final
[14:27] <HOYGAN> thanks jaredforsyth
[14:28] <SpaceAviator> serban: I install fglrx fine using the additonal drivers. Whats not working for you?
[14:28] <bkfitz> Hoygan i did... no problems
[14:28] <HOYGAN> great bkfitz, ^^
[14:28] <HOYGAN> bb
[14:28] <KnitGal> serban, if you're using older AMD, fglrx may not work
[14:30] <xodiak> good morning, afternoon, evening everyone!
[14:31] <bjrohan> Hey there, I need help with ssh. I am trying to set up ssh so I don't need a password when running rsync. I followed a 3 step guide, but now not only does it still ask for a password, but it says my password is wrong
[14:31] <xodiak> Anyone hear of any news for MYUNITY for 12.10 yet?
[14:32] <kevwilde> hi, i see empathy lost its application menu in the 12.10.. How can i get it visible again? I'm using gnome shell and now it is not appearing anymore.
[14:33] <OerHeks> bjrohan, did you copy your public key to that host ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Transfer_Client_Key_to_Host
[14:33] <bjrohan> I believe I did OerHeks I will send a pastebin
[14:33] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  all i tend to  do is 'ssh-keygen' then 'ssh-copy-id' to the server.
[14:34] <dr_willis> not sure how that relates to rsync. :) but it lets me ssh in with no password needed
[14:34] <bjrohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289438/
[14:34] <bjrohan> dr_willis that is what I believe I did
[14:34] <pestilence> how do I get rid of this nonsense:  "Would you like to install %S (%S), for extra features and quicker access?"
[14:34] <relondo> how long should it take to upgrade from 1 2.0 4 to 1 2.1 0?
[14:35] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  using ssh -vv remote (or -vvv) will have more verbose info on why its failing
[14:35] <pestilence> I believe it must be a part of the "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications"
[14:35] <dr_willis> pestilence:  thats the webapps feature. its disabable.. somehow.
[14:35] <KnitGal> i had to leave my laptop running overnight
[14:36] <pestilence> dr_willis: OK.  This just may be the straw that broke the camel's back with my ubuntu experiment (which has lasted ~6 years now)
[14:36] <imgx64> Clicking "Ubuntu Server" and "Cloud infrastructure" on the download page both give me a download called "ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso", is there any difference between the two isos?
[14:37] <relondo> because an unfortunate series of events resulted in me having too upgrade my laptop while on its battery
[14:37] <dr_willis> pestilence:  i recall it not beign that hard to remove.. and i like the webapps feature.
[14:38] <pestilence> dr_willis: it appears that going into "addons" in firefox and disabling "Ubuntu firefox modifications", "Unity desktop integration" and "Unity websites integration" has at least disabled that nonsense
[14:38] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/202631/how-do-i-reenable-webapps-prompts-in-12-10
[14:38] <dr_willis> shows where the check box to turn it on/off is.
[14:39] <pestilence> dr_willis: ok, thanks.  It appears that tickbox goes away when you disable the above addons :)
[14:39] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP <IP_ADDRESS> - it says No route to host, although other non ubuntu computers in my network can connect.
[14:40] <NaZZaX> Dr willis!!! good news
[14:40] <dr_willis> whiskers75:  can you ping the ip? what service are you connecting to? what os is on that machine?
[14:40] <NaZZaX> I found the answer to my corruption issue with apt-get
[14:40] <pestilence> dr_willis: personally I would like a clear boundary between what is "my desktop" and what is "the internet".  I assume that I am not alone in this desire. Ubuntu has made a clear move towards blurring this boundary significantly with this release.
[14:40] <NaZZaX> can we add the solution / answer to the bot?
[14:40] <whiskers75> dr_willis: HTTP and FTP, can't ping, can connect from an iPod Touch 4th
[14:40] <edi> Hi after a reboot a 2nd hard drive hasnt mounted. fdisk sya doesnt contain a valid partition table. I have ran testdisk. Any other options?
[14:41] <TheLordOfTime> NaZZaX, they don't add factoids for everything you know.
[14:41] <pestilence> i was hoping the shopping lens was the only way they had blurred things..but this "unity integration" in firefox is just as bad IMO.  and empathy won't work for google chat anymore without giving it the keys to my google account to upload photos and other such stupidity
[14:41] <whiskers75> edi: well, maybe that HDD does not have a partition table. :D
[14:41] <Kw259> ubuntu rocks!
[14:41] <remsSs> Hi everyone
[14:41] <whiskers75> Kw259: indeed
[14:42] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, do you have any actual support question, rather than complaints?
[14:42] <Kw259> im using xubuntu :P
[14:42] <bjrohan> dr_willis: Here are the results from ss -vvv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289455/
[14:42] <edi> whiskers75: it did previously :) data on it and mounted with an ext3 partition. Getting worried since testdisk hasnt helped.
[14:42] <whiskers75> dr_willis: any idea?
[14:42] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i asked my questions, nobody answered.  I'm left to do nothing but moan.
[14:43] <whiskers75> edi: try again with another computer or reboot your current one.
[14:43] <Kw259> omg i need xubuntu 12.10 :D
[14:43] <dr_willis> actually i think i did answer you pestilence  ;)
[14:43] <Kw259> i have 12.04
[14:43] <dr_willis> bbl off to shopp..
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, there is a thing called patience
[14:43] <pestilence> also, they removed "unity 2d" as a login option, and unity 3d doesn't work properly (still)
[14:43] <Kw259> i got it the day befre yesterday D:
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> !patience | pestilence
[14:43] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i asked my questions like an hour ago. i'm pretty sure they got lost in the interim.
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, continued moaning isnt fit for here, if you have to repeat your support question.  otherwise, i think complaining should be done elsewhere
[14:43] <truexfan81> what package do i have to install to make gtk apps look better in kubuntu 12.04?
[14:43] <Kw259> should i get xubuntu 12.10?
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, you realize you're allowed to repeat?
[14:44] <joeljgarrett> I am trying to install Lubuntu 12.04 to a Dell Inspiron 8000 with 512MB RAM and 20 GB hard disk.  I am able to run Lubuntu off of the install CD, but when I attempt to do an install I get to the point where the install screen is black with lubuntu 12.04 in white letters and the little spinning thing just spins
[14:44] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: ok.  how do you remove 3d effects in 12.10?
[14:44] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, i didnt say i knew your answers, so just ask to the channel, not an individual ;P
[14:44] <pestilence> how do you use empathy for google chat using the jabber protocol?  this worked in 12.04 as well
[14:44] <joeljgarrett> The install doesn't proceed past that point.  Is there a way to debug or check logs for the install process?
[14:45] <pestilence> there used to be a "unity 2d" login option in lightdm.  no longer.  now there is just "ubuntu"
[14:45] <SpaceAviator> what is the plymouth package called in ubuntu?
[14:45] <SpaceAviator> I want to reconfigure it
[14:45] <pestilence> i happen to have gnome installed.  it still has a "2d" option.  that's what I'm logged into right now.
[14:45] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP <IP_ADDRESS> - it says No route to host, although my iPod can connect. I cannot ping, i am trying to access FTP and HTTP on this server.
[14:45] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i'm telling you, the silence is deafening :)
[14:46] <whiskers75> anyone?
[14:46] <whiskers75> !help
[14:47] <whiskers75> !patience
[14:47] <whiskers75> !help ping
[14:47] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: if you wouldn't mind, please try to answer my question in the room
[14:47] <whiskers75> !ping
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, you should be able to answer your question yourself.
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> unity-2d exists in Quantal
[14:47] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: as I just said, there is no "unity 2d" option in the login screen.
[14:47] <whiskers75> !plymouth
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, so install it!
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[14:47] <whiskers75> !plymouth | SpaceAviator
[14:47] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: ok.  there's an answer!  wow.
[14:48]  * TheLordOfTime returns to the now-critical breakage of his network
[14:48] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i upgraded from 12.04, where there was a unity 2d option in the login screen.
[14:48]  * whiskers75 needs an answer
[14:48] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, probably because you had it installed, and it got uninstalled.
[14:48] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: according to dpkg, it is installed still.
[14:49] <elderman> joeljgarrett, have you verified the iso?
[14:49] <whiskers75> !ubottu
[14:49] <SpaceAviator> whiskers75, see above where?
[14:49] <SpaceAviator> !title
[14:49] <kostkon> pestilence, 12.10 doesn't have unity-2d. the unity-2d package is just a dummy package
[14:49] <whiskers75> !plymouth | SpaceAviator
[14:49] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, someone'll have to help you troubleshoot, i have to troubleshoot my network before things explode.
[14:49]  * NaZZaX didnt see if anyone answered about adding the solution for network lab mis-reporting of corruption doing apt-get
[14:49] <whiskers75> SpaceAviator: that
[14:49] <elderman> joeljgarrett, not an answer to your question, but a possible source of your problem
[14:49] <kostkon> pestilence, that points to unity. http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/unity-2d
[14:49] <pestilence> kostkon: aha, thank you.
[14:49] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP <IP_ADDRESS> - it says No route to host, although my iPod can connect. I cannot ping, i am trying to access FTP and HTTP on this server.
[14:49] <ellorenz> Hi to all
[14:50] <altin> Hi all, I am creating a wireless network with my laptop
[14:50] <ellorenz> i'd need help about wifi on ubuntu 12.10 can anyone help me?
[14:50] <pestilence> kostkon: so, how do you do unity 2d in 12.10?  it's not allowed anymore??
[14:50] <altin> but I cant see that in my phone ?
[14:50] <altin> anyone knows why ?
[14:50] <phat> ?
[14:50] <joeljgarrett> elderman, what is the best way to verify the iso on a Windows platform, like Vista?
[14:50] <ellorenz> altin: is the problem hotspot use ad-doc net
[14:50] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP <IP_ADDRESS> - it says No route to host, although my iPod can connect. I cannot ping, i am trying to access FTP and HTTP on this server. Traceroute does not yeild anything but a hop at my own machine.
[14:50] <auronandace> pestilence: unity2d is no longer available, unity should work
[14:50] <kostkon> pestilence, you don't, i'm afraid. unity-2d, that qt based interface, has been deprecated.
[14:51] <mneptok> joeljgarrett: md5sums are provided for each image file
[14:51] <ellorenz> smartphones want's apn wireless
[14:51] <pestilence> auronandace: haha.  i love it.  and what do you do if it doesn't work?
[14:51] <altin> I did ellorenz, I am connected via ethernet port and wanted to create a new wireless network
[14:51] <auronandace> pestilence: what exactly doesn't work?
[14:51] <whiskers75> Is Quetzal out?
[14:51] <joeljgarrett> Ok, I will google md5sum and find a tool and try re-checking the iso
[14:52] <auronandace> whiskers75: yes
[14:52] <pestilence> auronandace: for example, when I switch monitors (which I do frequently), all of the windows are gone.
[14:52]  * whiskers75 forgets what version 12.10 is
[14:52] <whiskers75> good
[14:52] <joeljgarrett> Thanks for your advice
[14:52] <ellorenz> altin: wich smartphone do u have?
[14:52]  * whiskers75 is going to update!
[14:52] <altin> ellorenz: SGS2
[14:52] <pestilence> auronandace: they reappear after you alt-tab.  but it is still annoying.
[14:52] <altin> my laptop is a thinkpad t60 (it is probably an old wireless card ??)
[14:52] <altin> ellorenz:
[14:52] <elderman> joeljgarrett, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[14:52] <auronandace> pestilence: sorry i can't help with that, i don't use multiple screens
[14:53] <ellorenz> altin: from android to other device is possible
[14:53] <joeljgarrett> eldernan, thanks for the link
[14:53] <kostkon> pestilence, on low end systems or systems without 3d graphics card driver support, 12.10 uses part of the cpu to render unity.
[14:53] <joeljgarrett> elderman, that is.  Thanks, I am an absolute beginner here
[14:54] <pestilence> kostkon: I have a low end system, yes.  but I have an nvidia graphics card that does 3d just fine.
[14:54] <ellorenz> put phone in thetering,
[14:54] <remsSs> Hi i want know if i can install sublime text without registering
[14:54] <elderman> I'm an intermediate, joeljgarrett, frequently over my head, but with adequate search-fu
[14:54] <remsSs> are there limits
[14:54] <pestilence> kostkon: it's a Geforce 210.  certainly not a gaming powerhouse, but perfectly capable of doing desktop effects.
[14:54] <ellorenz> altin: from linux is the same my problem, i can't do a hotspot with apn
[14:55] <bjrohan> dr_willis from my pastebin I can see some kind of acceptance, and then I see whre it says no such identity? What may have gone awry?
[14:55] <kostkon> pestilence, did you install the nvidia driver?
[14:55] <vak> oh, in Ubuntu 12.10 the copying over network suddenly freezes after about 100Mb copied :(
[14:55] <pestilence> kostkon: for example, i get 60fps in glxgears with unity running.  so, not mind blowingly awesome, but capable.
[14:55] <pestilence> kostkon: yes, nvidia driver is installed.
[14:56] <kostkon> pestilence, so, what problems do you have exactly?
[14:57] <pestilence> kostkon: when I switch displays, all of the windows disappear until i hit alt+tab.
[14:57] <pestilence> meaning i have to switch from my focused window
[14:57] <kona_> hey guys how can I remove unity? i prefer gnome instead
[14:57] <altin> ellorenz: hmm why is that :S
[14:57] <pestilence> kostkon: the reason i used unity 2d in 12.04 is that the 3d version had some bug that caused it to crash periodically when switching displays.
[14:57] <kostkon> pestilence, isn't that a xrandr problem?
[14:58] <pestilence> kostkon: i don't think so.  xrandr worked fine in unity 2d in 12.04.
[14:58] <pestilence> kostkon: i think something in the 3d desktop effects isn't handling the monitor switch properly.  I can see the desktop when I switch monitors, just not the open windows.
[14:58] <kostkon> pestilence, have you tried to setup your monitors in the nvidia settings
[14:58] <pestilence> kostkon: it happens even then.
[14:59] <elderman> kona_, I haven't used the main distro (Ubuntu proper) in a while, but there used to be an option to select your desktop environment on login?
[14:59] <pestilence> kostkon: (if I switch monitors using nvidia-settings)
[14:59] <pestilence> kostkon: so, it happens using xrandr.  it also happens using nvidia-settings.
[15:00] <kona_> elderman ubuntu 12.04 comes with unity and I belive u can remove the repos for it but it messes with your system
[15:00] <jrib> kona_: you can just leave it and just select gnome as your desktop choice at the login screen
[15:00] <pestilence> elderman: there is still an option to select "gnome" when you login
[15:00] <elderman> what they said, kona_
[15:00] <pestilence> assuming you have gnome installed
[15:00] <lazarus_> is there ever going to be new stock of the ubuntu keyboard (uk layout)
[15:00] <kona_> thanks jrib elderman
[15:01] <ellorenz> altin: offically ad hoc network is not sure, for really router seller don't like it, they want sell router
[15:01] <newcomer_> can anyone tell me how I can become 'owner' after installing Ubuntu12?
[15:01] <kostkon> pestilence, the next time you do a switch, you could check your logs, e.g. syslog, Xorg.0.log and if you find any error messages just paste them somewhere and give the link here
[15:01] <jrib> lazarus_: what is "the ubuntu keyboard"?
[15:01] <ellorenz> 	altin: offically ad hoc network is not secure,sorry
[15:02] <pestilence> kostkon: ok, let me try.
[15:02] <jrib> newcomer_: you want to use sudo/ perform admin tasks?
[15:02] <ellorenz> there is a method to do an apn network with ubuntu but i can't do it and i'm here to find help
[15:02] <lazarus_> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=800 jrib
[15:03] <diverdude> I have installed a modem on my ubuntu machine....The problem is its REALLY slow....It cannot be the connection since i have tested it on a mac just next to it where the speed is fine. Why is it SO slow, basically not even working on my ubuntu machine? its a zte mf665c 3g modem
[15:03] <atmark> Hello, I was wondering how to change the framebuffer color during boot process?
[15:03] <jrib> lazarus_: ah, you should contact canonical about that
[15:03] <atmark> In arch, I was able to change it via /etc/rc.d/functions
[15:03] <remsSs> Do you know Sublime Text 2.0.1 It 's great to coding
[15:03] <Matriks404> opera seems glitched on ubuntu 12.10 :D
[15:03] <truexfan81> is there somewhere i can get help with kubuntu?
[15:04] <jrib> truexfan81: #kubuntu
[15:04] <Matriks404> #kubuntu?
[15:04] <truexfan81> ty
[15:04] <ellorenz> To all: somebody can help me to do an apn hotspot  with ubuntu and an integrated intel wirless 100
[15:04] <pestilence> kostkon: here's what shows in the Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289501/
[15:04] <pestilence> kostkon: that's from switching from monitor 0 to monitor 1 and back again
[15:05] <kostkon> pestilence, any errors in syslog or messages?
[15:05] <pestilence> kostkon: nope.
[15:06] <truexfan81> #kubuntu is like a ghost town lol
[15:07] <agrester> Hello everyone hope your day is going well...
[15:07] <SuperLag> I guess no one has noticed what I noticed on the download of the ISO image.
[15:07] <kostkon> pestilence, is this a fresh installation?
[15:07] <SuperLag> What's the +mac in some of the file names for the Ubuntu downloads?
[15:07] <pestilence> kostkon: no, an upgrade from 12.04
[15:08] <kostkon> pestilence, hmm
[15:08] <elderman> #lubuntu, too, truexfan81. You can try asking your question here.
[15:08] <agrester> Have a question: Ubuntu 12.04, after rebooting my cron.hourly is not working anymore, I can execute it directly with the 'cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly' command but for some reason after rebooting it stops working and I have to manually restart it again, any suggestions on how to fix this?
[15:08] <jrib> SuperLag: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ read the description at the top
[15:08] <pestilence> kostkon: and I did mess with settings in 12.04 to try to get the 3d working.  I suppose it is possible there is something residual.
[15:09] <karlog> i have a doubt
[15:09] <SuperLag> jrib: Nice. I wonder if that still matters if it's running in a VM?
[15:09] <karlog> can anyone help
[15:09] <pestilence> kostkon: I have some vague recollection of some optional control panel that I installed to control the desktop effects.  I have no idea what it was called :-/
[15:09] <jrib> SuperLag: I don't know; probably not
[15:10] <Myrtti> karlog: difficult to know without being a clairvoyant, what is your problem? perhaps someone can help if you ask.
[15:10] <newcomer_> i need help installing java it says i am not a owner
[15:10] <karlog> will i be able to run ubuntu along side on my laptop, it already has windows 7 and windows 8 as a native boot vhd i want to have ubuntu along with it
[15:10] <jrib> newcomer_: what says that?  How are you trying to install java?
[15:10] <underweb>  /query Fuchs
[15:11] <agrester> Have a question: Ubuntu 12.04, after rebooting my cron.hourly is not working anymore, I can execute it directly with the 'cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly' command but for some reason after rebooting it stops working and I have to manually restart it again, any suggestions on how to fix this?
[15:11] <pestilence> kostkon: i think it was ccsm
[15:11] <agrester> It's so strange, now it started again...
[15:11] <kostkon> pestilence, you could try resetting unity. you may lose some customisations you have applied to it, but if you want, give it a try.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html  it's obviously a little risky, but not much
[15:11] <jrib> agrester: how are you determining it is not working?
[15:12] <pestilence> kostkon: ok, thanks, i will give that a shot.
[15:12] <overclucker> sudo wget https://www.ubuntulinux.jp/sources.list.d/precise.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-ja.list
[15:12] <overclucker> oops
[15:12] <agrester> jrib: Yes, I put a line at the end of my script to echo to a log file the time stamp, and after shutdown last night it has not worked at all until manually restarted today this morning
[15:12] <overclucker> pasted in wrong window ...
[15:12] <Myrtti> !patience | karlog
[15:13] <pestilence> kostkon: should the package "compiz" be installed in 12.10?
[15:13] <jrib> agrester: well it won't get executed when your computer is shutdown
[15:13] <agrester> jrib: it is now working after being manually restarted again but I don't understand why it didn't work again as normal every hour from boot time....
[15:13] <ThinkT510> pestilence: yes, unity uses compiz by default
[15:13] <pestilence> kostkon: I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager#Install_CompizConfig_Settings_Manager to see how I might remove the compiz settings manager
[15:13] <agrester> jrib: after startup today, it never ended up starting, thats the problem...
[15:13] <pestilence> ThinkT510: ok, thanks
[15:14] <pestilence> ThinkT510: how about the packages "compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins "
[15:14] <jrib> agrester: what's your script do?
[15:14] <agrester> jrib: it seems that cron.hourly gets messed up by shutting the computer down and restarting at a later date
[15:14] <ThinkT510> pestilence: i'd expect so
[15:14] <kevwilde> hi, i see empathy lost its application menu in the 12.10.. How can i get it visible again? I'm using gnome shell and now it is not appearing anymore.
[15:14] <kostkon> pestilence, if you want, before removeing it, run it and try resetting any changes you believe you have made in the past.
[15:15] <agrester> jrib: it's a simple backup script that rsyncs a bunch of files to a GDrive folder and uses 'grive' to upload them to my good docs...
[15:15] <agrester> it's just 4 lines
[15:15] <Matriks404> how i can remove amazon crap from dash
[15:15] <kostkon> pestilence, maybe you loaded some extra plugins, altered some values here and there
[15:15] <jrib> agrester: make it one line.  With the echo statement
[15:16] <jrib> agrester: and use full path for echo.  What is your echo line?
[15:16] <pestilence> kostkon: ok.  good idea.  but i have very little recollection about what I did :)
[15:16] <agrester> jrib: I'll paste bin one moment
[15:16] <pestilence> it appears that the only package that still exists out of that list is compiz-plugins, and it is in universe.
[15:17] <alexfpms> Hi guys, i've noticed an issue while watching videos. The sound  "glitch" sometimes -  that is, it'll replay a tiny sample over and over for about a second or so, and then continue playing. It's the same effect as if you're listening to something and your machine locks up hard, and it plays the same sound ad nauseum until you cut power. However, in my case, it clears after approximately a second.
[15:17] <MMK> Hi! How can I speed up my Ubuntu 12.10? have great CPU, good ram and WD black HDD
[15:18] <alexfpms> Any ideas what can it be ?
[15:18] <pestilence> kostkon: are you running 12.10?  could you pastebin the output of "dconf dump /org/compiz/" for me?
[15:18] <kostkon> pestilence, i think ccsm comes with a reset to defaults button :P
[15:19] <kostkon> pestilence, not at the moment
[15:19] <agrester> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289532/
[15:20] <jrib> agrester: ok so if any of those commands fail, you won't get the echo to execute.  Don't use the "&& \" before the echo line
[15:20] <pestilence> kostkon: you are right.  i pressed that button and logged out and in.
[15:20] <jrib> agrester: also, what are the permissions on this file and is there a reason you are running this as root?
[15:20] <pestilence> kostkon: problem fixed!
[15:20] <pestilence> thanks!
[15:20] <kostkon> pestilence, nice!
[15:21] <pestilence> yea!  i really like the shortcuts to make windows take up half the screen, and those don't work in 2d.  so this is great.
[15:21] <agrester> jrib: running it root because I store the script in my /opt/ folder and because I it grabs data from another drive on the system outside my home folder, I then symlinked the script to the /etc/cron.hourly folder
[15:21] <agrester> jrib: permissions are 0755
[15:22] <MMK> Hi! How can I speed up my Ubuntu 12.10? have great CPU, good ram and WD black HDD
[15:22] <ryao> MMK: Use ZFS
[15:22] <jrib> agrester: ok.  Remove the "&& \" before echo as I said before and change "date" to "/bin/date" just to be safe.  I never remember what the default PATH is in crontabs...
[15:23] <MMK> ryao ty
[15:23] <zykotick9> MMK: using zfs isn't a great idea...
[15:23] <ryao> MMK: https://github.com/dajhorn/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[15:23] <agrester> jrib: could the '\' character be messing it up?
[15:24] <_Ash_> I have problems after install nvidia driver, broken resolution and Unity&Compiz can't start with ERROR: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"
[15:24] <MMK> @zykotick9 why not?
[15:24] <_Ash_> in ubuntu 12.10
[15:24] <kostkon> pestilence, nice. now about your empathy problem. did you check the new online accs utility. Does it list google as enabled on the left and does it list empathy in the right pane as enabled for google/gtalk?
[15:24] <gordonjcp> okay, here's a weird one
[15:24] <zykotick9> MMK: it's a non-gnu/linux native filesystem.  it's kinda like using NTFS...
[15:24] <jrib> agrester: no, but your current script only executes the echo line if everything before it was successful
[15:24] <gordonjcp> programs that segfault aren't generating core dumps - even though ulimit -c is set to unlimited
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> MMK  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289542/
[15:24] <pestilence> kostkon: no, I don't know what "online accs utility" means
[15:25] <agrester> jrib: And with rsync it won't run if there is no file change yes?
[15:25] <kostkon> pestilence, you'll find it in your system preferences ;)
[15:25] <alexfpms> _Ash_, You see desktop and icons but no unity ?
[15:25] <pestilence> kostkon: I have gchat set up as a jabber account, which worked fine in 12.04.  that's what shows up in "Online Accounts"
[15:25] <jrib> agrester: well it will run, but it shouldn't try to copy anything if the files haven't changed.  By the way, in "/home/user/GDrive/grive", should "grive" be "gdrive"?
[15:25] <_Ash_> yes, desktop working
[15:25] <naruto> hy
[15:26] <agrester> jrib: no it's grive that commandline tool
[15:26] <jrib> agrester: ok
[15:26] <alexfpms> _Ash_, so install sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[15:26] <Guest34429> hy
[15:26] <Rodrigo> hello, my pc is a acer aspire 5738zg (laptop) 2.1 ghz intel t4300, ge force g105m 512mb and a 500 gb hd
[15:26] <alexfpms> _Ash_, then re-install graphic drivers
[15:26] <Rodrigo> i have a problem in every linux distro, it is allways slow
[15:26] <jrib> agrester: I'll be back later
[15:26] <_Ash_> alexfpms, thx
[15:26] <agrester> jrib: should I be running each command in it's own script and reporting the status?
[15:26] <Rodrigo> i am not sure why is that, my windows 7 runs fine, and ubuntu runs laggy
[15:27] <alexfpms> _Ash_, try before say thx
[15:27] <jrib> agrester: you don't have to do that
[15:27] <Guest34429> can you use videocall on linux
[15:27] <carlisle_> Rodrigo: have you installed the appropriate graphics drivers for your video card?
[15:27] <pestilence> kostkon: when I open up empathy, it shows the spinning wheel for a while and then it says "(my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>account requires authorisation"  with "Change your presence to see contacts here" below it
[15:27] <Rodrigo> yes of course carlisle_
[15:27] <carlisle_> what brand video card are you using?
[15:27] <Rodrigo> it happens with EVERY distro i try
[15:27] <Calinou> Rodrigo: you mean, in games? might want to use proprietary driver, if you want to trade freedom for performance
[15:28] <Rodrigo> Ge Force G105M
[15:28] <lazarus_> Guest34429: do you mean like skype
[15:28] <Calinou> Rodrigo: "every" distro? there are 140 active distros out there
[15:28] <MMK> MonkeyDust "sed: can't read /etc/default/prelink: No such file or directory"
[15:28] <Rodrigo> Calinou: i use proprietary, the dekstop is slow
[15:28] <kostkon> pestilence, yes, i think you need to give it permission to access your google account in the online accounts app
[15:28] <carlisle_> the open source nvidia drivers aren't that bad from what i understand, you might want to try the propietary ones
[15:28] <Rodrigo> every distro i mean, arch linux, ubuntu, linux mint, debian a bit
[15:28] <Guest34429> yeah
[15:28] <Calinou> Rodrigo: that isn't a very fast graphics card too, but it should run unity fine... strange
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> MMK  did you install prelink?
[15:28] <Calinou> carlisle_: +1, they run quite well, except on kepler/fermi, blame nvidia
[15:28] <Rodrigo> yes, and windows 7 runs fast
[15:28] <kostkon> pestilence, does Google appear as an option in the left pane in your online accounts?
[15:28]  * Calinou has a fermi GPU :<
[15:28] <alexfpms> _Ash_, make sure to completely remove graphic driver and then re-install it
[15:28] <Rodrigo> i am not sure why this happens...
[15:28] <pestilence> kostkon: here's where my problem lies.  I see no reason that I should allow ubuntu to access my google account outside of empathy, which is what it evidently wants me to do
[15:29] <alexfpms> _Ash_, nvidia or Ati ?
[15:29] <Rodrigo> i did a little google search and more ppl posted the problem, but no one replied
[15:29] <Rodrigo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/174320/12-04-running-slow-on-acer-aspire-5738zg
[15:29] <javaJake> pestilence: take a look at Pidgin as an alternative
[15:29] <MMK> Monkeydust not yet. just upgraded ubuntu from 11.10
[15:29] <kostkon> pestilence, no you can specify which apps you want, see this shot for example http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ykifT6g3nBk/UH715PqTtjI/AAAAAAAAK6E/y4JOIOUXQAo/s1600/ubuntu12.10-online-accounts.png
[15:29] <Rodrigo> only differente is that it's a different graphics card, some acer aspire's 5738zg came with ATI and others like mine with NVIDDIA
[15:29] <lazarus_> Guest34429: look in software centre
[15:30] <pestilence> javaJake: ah, ok.  sounds like the best plan.  don't know why they had to go and break empathy.
[15:30] <pestilence> kostkon: but why does it need to do that at all?  why can't it just work as a jabber client?
[15:30] <javaJake> pestilence: they didn't "break" it; it works fine. But I can understand your mistrust of software.
[15:30] <Rodrigo> Calinou: i'd say it's a proprietary driver problem for linux, because the other one works fine
[15:30] <Rodrigo> the other one,, i mean on windows 7*
[15:30] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in 12.10
[15:30] <Calinou> Rodrigo: explain slow? slow when playing games? when using the computer in general (eg. CLI applications), or is it about the desktop?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> MMK  all right, install preload and prelink, then execute the command -- i picked up those tips here on the #ubuntu channel, from a guy who is more skilled than i am
[15:31] <Calinou> Rodrigo: sometimes the NVIDIA driver doesn't like unity
[15:31] <kostkon> pestilence, it will work, if you allow it to access you google account credential
[15:31] <Rodrigo> slow in general
[15:31] <pestilence> javaJake: well, with my setup, they did.  empathy worked fine yesterday in 12.04 and it doesn't work today.
[15:31] <kostkon> pestilence, if you only see jabber listed in your online accs, try adding a new account and select Google
[15:31] <javaJake> pestilence: sounds like all they did is change empathy to use an oauth-esque authentication so they don't store your passwrod.
[15:31] <yogeshthegenius> hi
[15:32] <ArubaDods_> Hi all
[15:32] <Rodrigo> Calinou: slow opening apps, it's laggy
[15:32] <Rodrigo> i don't know how to explain better, sorry
[15:32] <pestilence> javaJake: ah, ok.  what about those using 2-factor authentication?  does it have to cache your credentials someplace?
[15:33] <javaJake> pestilence: it's equivalent in security to 2-factor auth
[15:33] <javaJake> but it's not the same
[15:33] <elderman> Hello, I am having trouble configuring my touchpad in Lubuntu 12.10.  There are no configuration options as far as I can tell.  The problem's similar to bug 527890, except that the touchpad's recognised correctly and has most functions.  I want to get rid of tap to click.  This is the first time I've had trouble with my touchpad on an Ubuntu variant.
[15:33] <never_ever> why won't broadcom wireless work on 12.10?
[15:33] <Calinou> Rodrigo: apps can open quite slowly, but once they're closed, if you reopen them they will quickly be reopened because they're cached in RAM
[15:34] <Rodrigo> i know, but moving stuff is slow, even browsing the web
[15:34] <designbybeck> Uh oh... I had linuxMint Cinnamon installed... I wanted to try to dualboot with 12.10... install finished just fine, restarted and it goes straight to LinuxMint everytime. No Grub
[15:34] <pestilence> javaJake: what I mean is, if you have 2-factor authentication enabled for your google account, how is that handled?  with the jabber client, you just made a "application-specific" password that would be stored by empathy, but that no longer functions.
[15:34] <Rodrigo> this happens in 12.04 12.10, i don't remember 11.10 being slow, i can be wrong thought
[15:34] <carlisle_> designbybeck: have you configured grub?
[15:34] <riqdiiz> How do i get ubuntu to play my mp3 files
[15:34] <delinquentme> hey all ... is there a graphical tool which shows me the files and what takes up size on my hard drive?  Something to assist me in downsizing  / creating more room on my system :P?
[15:35] <carlisle_> riqdiiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[15:35] <Rodrigo> any ideas Calinou?
[15:35] <elderman> delinquentme, try baobab
[15:35] <designbybeck> .
[15:36] <riqdiiz> Im tired of sitting without sound<(
[15:36] <javaJake> pestilence: it means that your app-specific password is no longer used, but you will need to type your time-specific PIN.
[15:36] <kostkon> riqdiiz, you have no sound in 12.10?
[15:37] <pestilence> javaJake: *sigh*, I guess I will try it :)
[15:37] <MMK> @Monkeydust I'm not good in code but this seems to be mostly for internet?
[15:37] <javaJake> pestilence: Google will give GNOME the information it needs to login in the future, but that info is easy for you to invalidate from your Google account later.
[15:37] <designbybeck> Uh oh... I had linuxMint Cinnamon installed... I wanted to try to dualboot with 12.10... install finished just fine, restarted and it goes straight to LinuxMint everytime. No Grub
[15:37] <pestilence> javaJake: you must mean Unity?
[15:37] <carlisle_> designbybeck: did you see me ask if you configured grub?
[15:37] <javaJake> pestilence: yes :)
[15:37] <designbybeck> I can see the 2nd partition in linuxmint, but I can't boot into 12.10
[15:37] <designbybeck> no sorry the other irc program crapped on me how to login again CarlFK
[15:37] <designbybeck> carlisle_:
[15:38] <carlisle_> ah ok
[15:38] <designbybeck> it was a clean install, hadn't touched anything besides restart
[15:38] <kroson> hello, has anyone been able to run ubuntu with fglrx driver?
[15:38] <pestilence> javaJake: here's my issue.  I don't really want "Unity" to be able to access my google account.  So I guess pidgin it is!
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> MMK  swappiness is for swapping, preload to load apps more rapidly, prelink too, the ipv4 things are for internet
[15:38] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in 12.10
[15:38] <kroson> hello, has anyone been able to run ubuntu with fglrx driver??
[15:38] <javaJake> pestilence: yep
[15:38] <Calinou> kroson: no, that is impossible! :D
[15:38] <delinquentme> elderman, you are a stellar human being. TYVMs.
[15:38] <MMK> MonkeyDust okay ty, will reboot now and see if everything is okay :)
[15:38] <designbybeck> carlisle_:  is there a way for me to update grub and not break it from withing linuxmint so that it fixes for 12.10?
[15:39] <kroson> Calinou: you tested it?
[15:39] <a1fa> my lock screen no longer works on ubuntu 12.10 /gnome/
[15:39] <Rodrigo> Calinou: i tryed everything i found, i reinstalled a dozen times etc
[15:39] <Calinou> no
[15:39] <pestilence> javaJake: I used pidgin for years anyways, so I'm good with that.  I had just gotten used to using empathy.
[15:39] <javaJake> pestilence: if it helps, you can turn on and off specific Google features (Contacts, Chat, Calendar) once you've added the account.
[15:39] <Rodrigo> Calinou: the only thing that could be wrong is installing from USB using unetbootin, i doubt it thought
[15:39] <elderman> delinquentme, you're welcome! :)
[15:39] <a1fa> anyone with lock screen issues in GNOME3 /ubuntu 12.10/? works on all other laptops, except this one pc
[15:39] <carlisle_> designbybeck: i'm trying to find you a good guide hang on
[15:40] <pestilence> javaJake: I'd rather just not have such tight integration with the desktop.  Call me paranoid, call me old.  But I guarantee you I'm not alone :)
[15:40] <Guest30873> hi, has anyone else had the following error on trying to install ubuntu 12.10 - installer crashed, could not install on a read-only file system?
[15:40] <a1fa> i removed and reinstalled gnome-screensaver
[15:40] <a1fa> and power management
[15:40] <designbybeck> thanks carlisle_  i'm looking as well
[15:40] <javaJake> pestilence: you are not :)
[15:40] <blackshirt> designbybeck, updatekgrub
[15:40] <Ashael> hi guys, got a little problem with 12.10 - when running the software updater, i get an error msg: "Failed to download repository information". I tried updating apt-get, changing mirrors - at some point the updater somehow worked, but i still get the error.
[15:40] <javaJake> pestilence: and, to be honest, it's not useful yet anyway
[15:40] <designbybeck> blackshirt: would that break my linuxmint booting ?
[15:40] <wols> kroson: state your actual problem instead of asking useless "anyone has..." questions which waste people's time
[15:41] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1052751 <-- this bug is not fixed
[15:41] <kroson> wols: i think you can understand my problem from context, it doesn't work
[15:41] <blackshirt> designbybeck, i don't think so ....
[15:41] <carlisle_> it's update-grub
[15:41] <designbybeck> should that be updategrub blackshirt
[15:41] <pestilence> javaJake: I mean...I don't even trust Firefox to store my credentials for google (hence 2-factor authentication)...what makes you think I'd want my fricken windows manager to store it!
[15:41] <carlisle_> and it SHOULD detect multiple OSes
[15:41] <wols> !doesn't work
[15:41] <carlisle_> but it may not
[15:41] <lazarus_>  designbybeck run sudo update-grub
[15:42] <wols> kroson: your description is utterly useless. come back when you learned to how state a problem. e.g. start with googling "how to get help on irc"
[15:42] <designbybeck> i did lazarus_  and thank you carlisle_  I'm going to restart and see if it worked
[15:42] <BluesKaj> odd, i had to use , sudo do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade my laptop from 12.04 to 12.10 Official release , are the servers that far behind ?
[15:42] <designbybeck> lazarus_:  carlisle_  it did see 12.10 as well as linuxmint
[15:42] <wols> kroson: since you probably need a hint: that first hit from workaround.org is very helpful for you
[15:42] <carlisle_> designbybeck: wooo
[15:42] <designbybeck> so let me see if it boots into those
[15:42] <carlisle_> oh
[15:43] <carlisle_> before you do
[15:43] <blackshirt> blueskaj, thats good for server
[15:43] <carlisle_> run sudo grub-install
[15:43] <elderman> too late, carlisle_
[15:43] <carlisle_> sudo grub-install /dev/sda or whatever your first boot device is
[15:43] <carlisle_> heh
[15:43] <javaJake> kroson: with any graphical problem, posting your Xorg.log.0 and Xorg.log.1 files into a pastebin service is going to be very helpful.
[15:43] <Rodrigo> Calinou: is it possible to downgradae to another version?
[15:44] <javaJake> kroson: "doesn't work" means hundreds of things to us
[15:44] <Ashael> got a little problem with 12.10 - when running the software updater, i get an error msg: "Failed to download repository information". I tried updating apt-get, changing mirrors - at some point the updater somehow worked, but i still get the error.
[15:44] <Ashael> ideas?
[15:44] <jrib> agrester: back
[15:44] <BluesKaj> blackshirt, not it isn't , it's been almost 24 hrs , that's the slowest i've seen it
[15:44] <agrester> ok
[15:44] <kona_> is cinnamon any gd on ubuntu?
[15:44] <MMK> Monkeydust back online :) but doesen't seem to be faster... Ubuntu Software Maneger still takes 5 sec to load
[15:44] <wols> Rodrigo: downgrades are unsupported with apt, dpkg and .deb. it might be possible to do it manually, but again: unsupported
[15:45] <Ashael> kona: it's great, i use it
[15:45] <ThothCastel> I am installing the driver for my ubuntu inspiron 1525 laptop following these instructions ...   I have NO internet connection
[15:45] <kostkon> Ashael, try selecting the main ubuntu server, at least temporarily, until the mirror that is close to you sorts itself out
[15:45] <ThothCastel> http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=5842.0
[15:45] <blackshirt> ashael, usually,that was specific repository sources.what is it?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> MMK  it accellarates in time, preload seed which apps you use more often -- in a terminal, type apt-cache show preload
[15:45] <ThothCastel> and I got the following error on the FOURTH command of the instructions :
[15:45] <Ashael> i got it for several different repositories, including the main server.
[15:45] <ThothCastel> Cannot open input file --unsupported
[15:45] <Rodrigo> brb, need to reboot to try another driver
[15:46] <yahusha> trying to figure something out of file properties
[15:46] <ThothCastel> why is that happenning?
[15:46] <kostkon> Ashael, and did you give sudo apt-get update afterwards everytime
[15:46] <Ashael> kostkon: yes.
[15:46] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in  ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[15:46] <agrester> jrib: so the thing is that how do I ensure that my script will start?
[15:46] <kostkon> Ashael, hmmm
[15:46] <MMK> MonkeyDust got 3
[15:47] <yahusha> what does it mean when under a file properties it says owner 1000 group 1000 and there is no such user on the comp
[15:47] <agrester> jrib: I should remove the '&& \'
[15:47] <kostkon> Ashael, maybe the error is for a 3rd party repo or ppa?
[15:47] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: paste the full command giving you the error
[15:47] <FlyingElvis> im having a slight problem...im trying to install msttcorefonts. kubuntu says they are installed, but that little confirmation window did not come up during the install process...how do i get these installed
[15:47] <carlisle_> (from your terminal)
[15:47] <blackshirt> yahusha, you should learn some basic linux file permission
[15:47] <ThothCastel> sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o
[15:47] <ThothCastel> carlisle_
[15:47] <lazarus_> kostkon: would sudo apt-get install - f help Ashael at all
[15:47] <jrib> agrester: you should remove the last one, yeah.  That way the echo should execute even if the commands before failed.  So you should be able to determine that cron IS executing your script
[15:47] <kostkon> lazarus_, don't think so
[15:47] <ThothCastel> all the 3 commands above that one worked fine
[15:47] <Ashael> kostkon: that is possible, although i think i got it before i re-enabled them. i'll check
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> MMK  did you type apt-cache show preload ?
[15:48] <lazarus_> sounds like broken sources list
[15:48] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: the error indicates that it's trying to open a file named '--unsupported' i would check to make sure it has support for that particular flag
[15:48] <agrester> jrib: ok, I added a line before that says "the job started" and one at the end "the job stopped"
[15:48] <MMK> MonkeyDust just apt-cache
[15:48] <carlisle_> though it is confusing it even thinks that a command prefaced with '--' is a file
[15:48] <jrib> agrester: ok
[15:48] <carlisle_> err, file
[15:48] <agrester> jrib: so that no matter what something is always echoed to log
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> MMK  no, type the complete command i just gave
[15:48] <yahusha> i understand that user is the owner of the file so why would it say user 1000 though there is no such user
[15:48] <kostkon> Ashael, if you want, try again and paste the whole generated output from apt-get update at pastebin and give the link here.
[15:49] <kroson> wols: since you seem to dictate the rules here, like telling me what i have to say and how, just for your information, i didn't offend you, or offtopic at all, or went against the rules.  I certainly know more than you what means helping someone else in a IRC channel, so i am not really looking for your advice on that.
[15:49] <Ashael> kostkon: will do
[15:49] <ThothCastel> carlisle_:   right, appreciate your help, but being new to Linux I am not sure of what to do from here
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> MMK  *apt-cache show preload*  (without the asterisks)
[15:49] <MMK> MonkeyDust did. can u write me an email or I post info here?
[15:50] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: i am not familiar with this particular firmware, but what i mean by 'flag' are the options prefaced with either one or two hyphens
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> MMK  it's for you, so you know what it does :)
[15:50] <a1fa> lightdm is a disaster
[15:50] <carlisle_> usually you can find usage information by invoking the command with -h
[15:50] <ArubaDods_> is there a way to get to a network file using ?
[15:50] <Calinou> a1fa: gdm is a disaster -- FTFY
[15:50] <blackshirt> yahusha, i don't know what you mean
[15:50] <carlisle_> in this case it would be sudo b43-fwcutter -h
[15:50] <MMK> "Note that installing preload will not make your system boot faster  and that preload is a daemon that runs with root priviledges."
[15:50] <a1fa> at least lock works in GDM
[15:50] <ArubaDods_> is there a way to get to a network file using krusader?
[15:50] <carlisle_> and see if --unsupported is listed there
[15:50] <ThothCastel> carlisle_: ok, thank you...
[15:50] <a1fa> i cant lock my PC with lightdm
[15:50] <ase> I have a ATI Radeon Mobility 3650 video card, and Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't recognize it. Any way to enable my video card?
[15:50] <a1fa> i have to shutdown
[15:50] <javaJake> kroson: we can't help you if you don't give us the information we're asking for
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> MMK  it's for loading your apps more rapidly
[15:51] <a1fa>     JS ERROR: !!!   Exception was: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
[15:51] <a1fa> supoosadly the bug wa sfixed
[15:51] <a1fa> but its not fixed
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> MMK  if you want to boot faster, consider disabling some services
[15:52] <ThothCastel> help please!
[15:52] <ArubaDods_> is there a way to get to a network file using krusader?
[15:52] <ThothCastel> lol
[15:52] <a1fa> i am on the lates 12.10, all patches upto date
[15:52] <MMK> MonekeyDust okay. do u know any app that would make my Firefox use less ram? after some days uf use, it uses 3GB RAM... and the rest of the system 1GB. I want to use the power I get from i7 920 CPU :)
[15:52] <a1fa> everything working except the damn suspend and lock
[15:52] <Ashael> kostkon: i disabled ppas I've added and changed back to the main server, and i no longer get the message. guess it was the additional ppas. thanks!
[15:52] <a1fa> switch to gdm
[15:52] <lazarus_> i like the 2 step login features in ubuntu 12.10
[15:52] <a1fa> it works fine
[15:53] <kostkon> Ashael, no prob
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> MMK  no, i use chromium, not FF
[15:53] <ArubaDods_> Hi all, is there a way to get to a network file using krusader?
[15:53] <MMK> MonkeyDust chromium did the same
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !boot > MMK maybe this is usefull
[15:53] <a1fa> and there is no way to configure lightdm
[15:53] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: it depends on the network protocol you're trying to access, do you know the protocol?
[15:54] <ThothCastel> on the fourth command of these instructions,   does it mean I should replace the '--unsupported' with something else?
[15:54] <ThothCastel> http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=5842.0]
[15:54] <wkhan113> Hi, I am trying to connect to wireless, using wicd. It says connection failed: bad password
[15:54] <MMK> MonkeyDust bash: !boot: event not found
[15:54] <wkhan113> Can someone help
[15:54] <agrester> jrib: thanks for the help, i'll be back if anything else should arise
[15:54] <blackshirt> a1fa, you can change it
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !boot | MMK
[15:55] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, nope, I have install ubuntu server on a old laptop for sharing files
[15:55] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, that's all I know
[15:55] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: what happened when you ran 'sudo b43-fwcutter -h'
[15:55] <carlisle_> instead of -h it might also be --help, or -? if -h didn't work
[15:55] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, I also install samba
[15:55] <carlisle_> ok so it's an smb share probably
[15:56] <kroson> javaJake: i didn't say i wouldn't give you that information, but when you are looking for support, you don't expect to find such morons  treating you like you were a totally retarded n00b, like i probably didn't know what IRC was at all. So the stupid, unhelpful behaviour was his, if instead of me it had been an user coming from windows and not being able to make his graphics card work, with this kind of "support" he called it, would ru
[15:56] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: if you know the path of the file, you can browse to smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/path/to/file
[15:56] <blackshirt> samba was for sharing files between your linux and windows :d
[15:56] <carlisle_> replace <IP_ADDRESS> with the appropriate IP
[15:56] <a1fa> i'd like the problem fixed
[15:56] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, Ok thanks a lot, carlisle_ !
[15:56] <ThothCastel> carlisle_: it shows me the following options:  -l      -i    -w    -v    -h
[15:57] <ThothCastel> short for  --list
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --identify
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --target-dir DIR
[15:57] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: i would say to try without the '--unsupported' flag
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --version
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --help
[15:57] <FloodBot1> ThothCastel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <ThothCastel> FloodBot: sure, sorry
[15:58] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: try without '--unsupported'
[15:59] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, it works! a million thanks
[15:59] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: happy to help! :)
[16:00] <ThothCastel> carlisle_:  it throuws me a different error:    Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5Sum asdfrsdajsaklclas2as156d4as5dsa123
[16:00] <Asham> saludos a todos
[16:00] <lazarus_> i like the 2 step login features in ubuntu 12.10 any help
[16:01] <lazarus_> woops
[16:01] <lazarus_> lol
[16:01] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, is ssh also a protocol, that's what I use at first to configure my server
[16:01] <blackshirt> lazarus_ what you mean with 2 step?
[16:01] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in  ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[16:01] <wols> kroson: the little fact that ubottu has a nice !doesn't work  factoid and a !details factoid should very much clue you in that behaviour like yours is happening about 100 times per day in here by, you guessed it, total noobs without a clue. and by your behaviour you have proven a) you are a noob  b) you don't want a solution to your problem but rant. and every time you continue this ranting proves it more
[16:01] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: you can't use ssh for file transfers, ssh is for getting a shell on a remote computer
[16:01] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: there are other protocols like nfs and afp
[16:01] <carlisle_> but smb is most commonly used
[16:02] <blackshirt> arubadods_, use scp to secure copy
[16:02] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: im not sure what to tell you here because this seems like a specific issue with that utility
[16:02] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: did you give me the full output of -h before FloodBot1 mentioned using paste.ubuntu.com
[16:03] <ThothCastel> carlisle_: I understand, thanks anyway, I am just trying to use Ubuntu as my main OS on my laptop inspiron 1525 but it doesn't come with the wireless driver   which it will probably be an issue as I need internet to work
[16:03] <lazarus_> blackshirt: ubuntu 12.10 allow filesystem encryption so u have to enter a password to boot os then one to login
[16:03] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, ok thanks. I just tried it and give me en error protocol. : ))
[16:03] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: yeah broadcom is a huge pain in the ass on linux
[16:03] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: :)
[16:05] <ArubaDods_> blackshirt, Thanks blackshirt
[16:05] <a1fa> hmm
[16:05] <a1fa> so caveman
[16:06] <a1fa> reinstalled gnome-shell and lightdm, and lock option still not working
[16:07] <caddoo> I've got a Apache Solr .jar to run on the server
[16:07] <bobop> ubuntu remote desktop, how do you set it up?
[16:07] <caddoo> how can I make sure this is always running
[16:08] <blackshirt> lazarus_ thats not specific 12.10 ... Ecryptfs was stand  long a go with linux kernel
[16:08] <a1fa>     JS ERROR: !!!   Exception was: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
[16:08] <a1fa>     JS ERROR: !!!     message = '"Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag"'
[16:08] <a1fa> thats the error when i click on the "LOCK"
[16:08] <carlisle_> bobop: you have a couple of options, vnc or x11 forwarding
[16:08] <carlisle_> on linux remote system management is most easily accomplished with ssh
[16:08] <Heniut> gi
[16:08] <Heniut> *hi
[16:09] <bobop> well I am trying to set it up on a laptop which means it will not have a static ip
[16:09] <tingtong> is it possible that 12.10 is installed without it coming near my MBR ?
[16:09] <carlisle_> bobop: you can configure your laptop with a dynamic dns provider
[16:09] <carlisle_> dyndns is pretty popular and you can get a free domain to use
[16:10] <lazarus_> blackshirt: yes but its the 1st time options have shown in ubuntu setup along with LVM partion setup (without using manual partitioning)
[16:10] <ubuntufan> Hi
[16:10] <carlisle_> tingtong: you should be able to install it without grub/lilo and that should do the trick, but let me confirm
[16:11] <carlisle_> tingtong: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132116/installing-ubuntu-12-04-without-installing-grub
[16:11] <tingtong> carlisle_: I heard that grub 2 causes problems if it is installed to a PBR
[16:11] <carlisle_> PBR?
[16:11] <tingtong> carlisle_: thansk
[16:12] <tingtong> PARTITION BOOT RECORD
[16:12] <carlisle_> ah i know that one by volume boot record
[16:12] <kostkon> a1fa, unrelated errors possibly. but is it supposed to work? i saw the comments on the bug report, and it seems that it still doesn't work for some people.
[16:12] <carlisle_> afaik grub can only be installed to the MBR
[16:13] <carif> does anyone know if there's a way to "single step" through upstart jobs when booting or shutting down? I want to debug a service. thanks
[16:13] <carlisle_> but i am not 100% about that
[16:13] <HOYGAN> Hi
[16:13] <blackshirt> carif, more detail please ...
[16:13] <tingtong> er ALternate discs have been killed! http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/canonical-drops-alternate-cds-from-ubuntu-12.10-120831062000.html
[16:13] <HOYGAN> guys, can one put the unity bar down on 12.10? without plugins?
[16:13] <blackshirt> carif, what you mean with single step
[16:14] <carlisle_> tingtong: oh that's right i forgot about that :(
[16:14] <carlisle_> tingtong: i am not sure how to install 12.10 without grub then, I'm sorry :(
[16:15] <rocky_> ok... so i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and now my laptop keyboard is dead (i'm using an external keyboard right now which works fine)
[16:15] <mangozy> HOYGAN such a choice is made by groups , and individual requests cannot be fullfilled
[16:15] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, last but least questions, is there a way to get to a network file throught the file system e.g. going to /etc/samba/bla bla bla?
[16:15] <carif> blackshirt, I mean have some way of viewing the steps in the various <type> script/end script blocks
[16:15] <carif> blackshirt, say using bashdb
[16:15] <HOYGAN> ok mangozy, and the colour of unity?
[16:15] <HOYGAN> can it be changed?
[16:15] <carif> blackshirt, but even logging would do
[16:16] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: you mean like setup a directory that when you navigate into it it shows you the contents of the remote filesystem?
[16:16] <krofna> When I switch from proprietary drives to X.Org open source drivers, it hangs on Applying changes (for past hour)... Need help, proprietary drivers break the boot...
[16:16] <Asham> HOYGAN,  hablas español?
[16:16] <ThothCastel> well, It seems that I will have to choose a different Operating System then ubuntu as my wireless internet connection is not working
[16:16] <bobop> dyndns cut the free offering off new register's
[16:16] <carlisle_> booo
[16:16] <carlisle_> there's some other ones out there i think
[16:16] <HOYGAN> si Asham
[16:16] <EuroNerd> Is there an easy way to install 12.10 without unwanted apps?  (Removing after full installation doesn't count :-P )
[16:16] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, yes something like that
[16:16] <Asham> HOYGAN, veo que tienes problemas con los plugins
[16:16] <carlisle_> EuroNerd: the network installer should allow you to pick and choose what you want to install
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:17] <HOYGAN> Asham: ven aqui #ubuntu-es
[16:17] <blackshirt> carif, youe mean some tool with support to upstart job editing?
[16:17] <EuroNerd> carlisle_, can I run that from the CD or USB?  Since I don't have another laptop to network with the target one.
[16:18] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, sorry I just love to know more about ubuntu linux as posible. I sometimes prefere doing this search than playing my ps3 black ops
[16:18] <carif> blackshirt, i don't think so, I'm thinking of something that will show me each command as its executed
[16:18] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: you'll need to update your /etc/fstab file, i'm looking for some good info
[16:18] <carif> blackshirt, i've started here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[16:18] <carlisle_> EuroNerd: it can run from either/or
[16:18] <EuroNerd> carlisle_, thanks.
[16:18] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to configure sudo user environment variable please guide me guys..
[16:19] <dhanasekaran> I tried /etc/environement and /etc/sudoers file not work please guide me
[16:19] <ubuntufan> EuroNerd.
[16:19] <rocky_> hrm... actually it isn't just my keyboard ... neither my laptop keyboard or touchpad are working when in ubuntu (but work fine in the windows dual-boot)
[16:20] <dhanasekaran> How to configure JAVA_HOME for sudo users
[16:20] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, oh...ok. I will search it online for editing the fstab for a network share
[16:20] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: this guide is designed for windows shares, but it has the gist of it. You'll want to replace 'servername' with your IP address
[16:20] <carlisle_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[16:20] <Guest94859> Is there really no alternate ISO for 12.10?
[16:20] <carlisle_> the 'cifs' option is correct, think of it as a synonym for smb
[16:20] <carlisle_> Guest94859: yeah i heard about that a few weeks ago forgot until now
[16:20] <carif> blackshirt, i guess increasing the log-priority might be a good step
[16:21] <bazhang> !alternate | Guest94859
[16:21] <a1fa> so dissapointed with this new update
[16:21] <jrib> Guest94859: why do you want the alternate iso?
[16:21] <jiffe98> for some reason there seems to be something very wishy washy about networking, given a number of reboots of a couple virtual machines I have sometimes networking will come up sometimes it won't
[16:21] <jiffe98> no reason, everything looks like, eths are up but it just doesn't work
[16:21] <wols> Guest94859: use a netinst ISO or a server ISO http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[16:22] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, oh...ok. I am going to do that
[16:22] <javaJake> bazhang: bummer :(
[16:22] <blackshirt> carif, i think you can configure it through syslog daemon
[16:22] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: :)
[16:22] <Guest94859> wols: Does the netinst provide all the options the alternate iso did?
[16:22] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, thanks alot
[16:22] <carlisle_> np!
[16:22] <wols> Guest94859: since I never ever used an "alternate" iso, I dunno. which options do you need?
[16:23] <blackshirt> or auditd framework
[16:23] <FliPPeh> Anyone else having problems connecting to Windows Live with the new accounts?
[16:23] <yugnoswam> how do i install flash player? (im new to linux)
[16:23] <mamed> how can i close lighgdm jimmy voice
[16:23] <FliPPeh> I thought they'd have fixed this by now
[16:23] <FliPPeh> But it will not connect, at all
[16:23] <FliPPeh> "no reason given"
[16:23] <Guest94859> wols: Needing manual partition encryption, 12.10 Live ISO can do encrypted auto-partitioning but not manual
[16:23] <toast__> Hey everyone.  I just upgraded from PP to QQ, but am experiencing desktop/unity issues.  From my reading, it's looking like my ati 46xx video isn't/may not be supported?  is that accurate?
[16:23] <bazhang> FliPPeh, what accounts
[16:23] <mamed> how can i close lighgdm jimmy voice
[16:23] <FliPPeh> 12.10 online accounts
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> Guest94859, This site gives a layout where the support has been moved. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/ubuntu-alternate-cds-could-be-dropped.html
[16:24] <yugnoswam> how do i install flash player from a yum file?
[16:24] <bazhang> yugnoswam, you dont
[16:24] <jrib> !flash | yugnoswam
[16:24] <riqdiiz> Hello anybody  know where i can get ffmpeg codecs  for ubuntu 9.04?
[16:24] <a1fa> who wrote light dm?
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> yugnoswam, If you are running a yum distro you are on the wrong channel.
[16:24] <jrib> !9.04 | riqdiiz
[16:24] <FliPPeh> Google doesn't work with the new accounts either
[16:24] <FliPPeh> Keeps dropping
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> a1fa  guess you can find developper info in launchpad
[16:24] <Guest94859> wilee-nilee: Thanks, sounds like the netinst should be okay
[16:24] <mamed> hello
[16:24] <FliPPeh> The only solution is pidgin, which will connect in a split second
[16:24] <Lafiir> After updating to 12.10 my Sound-system broke. It's only crackling when trying to play something, the Master-volume gets repeatedly reset to 100% and the entries in Device-list in Sound-settings are resetting/flickering? rapidly. Any ideas what went wrong?
[16:25] <FliPPeh> Why did they push a broken account system?
[16:25] <mamed> how can i close ubuntu gdm voice jimmy talks
[16:25] <yugnoswam> wilee-nilee: im just runing ubuntu. the top download on flash was yum for linux. i dunno which i want
[16:25] <bazhang> mamed, what is jimmy talks
[16:25] <deadmund> FliPPeh: in the name of progress!!!
[16:25] <riqdiiz> so no more life support for it?
[16:25] <FliPPeh> deadmund: I guess
[16:25] <jrib> riqdiiz: for a long time now, yes
[16:25] <bazhang> !behelpful | deadmund
[16:25] <MujiTo> CiAo Ci SoNo AnCh'IoOoOoOoOoOo!!
[16:25] <mamed> bazhang: i did some changes and when i restart my machine and type my pass someone says it . it is i think text to speech
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> yugnoswam, YOU can install the restricted-extras and get flash other codecs ans some ms fonts.
[16:26] <fooblargh> After upgrading successfully to 12.10, aptitude now wants to install several foreign-architecture (:i386) packages for no apparent reason. Asking with "aptitude why" shows foo:i386 providing foo, and foo being (correctly) required. However, the native foo (amd64) is already installed.
[16:26] <deadmund> :P
[16:26] <fooblargh> I'm *not* seeing the same behavior with apt-get
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> and*
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> fooblargh:  did you install ia32-libs?
[16:26] <bazhang> !aptitude | fooblargh
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> fooblargh:  if you installed ia32-libs or equivalent, its pulling the 32bit libraries.
[16:26] <fooblargh> TheLordOfTime: Nope
[16:26] <Assid> hey is there a way to get rid of the unity bar
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | Assid
[16:27] <fooblargh> ubottu: Ah! Ok, I didn't know that was the case! Thank you
[16:27] <fooblargh> Oh... *blush*
[16:27] <javaJake> :)
[16:27] <Assid> also hows the support for ati radeon cards?
[16:27] <deadmund> Assid: It's pretty good.
[16:27] <toast__> assid: I'm running an ati radeon, and having massive issues with Unity
[16:27] <rocky> hrm... actually it isn't just my keyboard ... neither my laptop keyboard or touchpad are working when in ubuntu (but work fine in the windows dual-boot) ... doesn't work in the console either so it's not an X problem... any ideas?
[16:27] <deadmund> Assid: they 'work' but don't get the performance they would on windows
[16:28] <Assid> hmm.. considering im mostly watching tv / youtube.. i really dont wana have " tearing " issues
[16:28] <deadmund> I'm running an ATI Radeon 9550 (from a long time ago) and an HD 5600
[16:28] <jrib> fooblargh: in theory aptitude in 12.10 should be fixed.   She would like to find an app that, upon right click on the desktop, a ring of icons pops up from which she can select from user-configurable apps. Does such a thing exist?
[16:29] <deadmund> ardchoille: appwall
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> a1fa  nice to share your opinion with us
[16:29] <gaben> Was Ubuntu 11.10 worth the weight?
[16:29] <deadmund> ardchoille: It's a square, not a ring, and you can set any button to set it
[16:29] <a1fa> you are welcome
[16:29] <deadmund> gaben: maybe one 1 ago
[16:30] <a1fa> at least my pc locks now
[16:30] <deadmund> 1 year* ago
[16:30] <gaben> thatsthejoke.jpg
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> gaben  not here please
[16:30] <ThothCastel> can I use my android phone and use it as an access point in order to install the wireless card driver on ubuntu?
 Maybe not quite what you're after, but look at gnome-pie
[16:30] <Assid> hmm i guess will play with what i have instead :P
[16:31] <ardchoille> deadmund: is that for Linux? I see search results for mobile phone apps
[16:31] <ThothCastel> cI mean, if I connect wired to the ubuntu, can I use its internet?
[16:31] <ThothCastel> how?
[16:31] <deadmund> ardchoille: I am very sure.  I use it on debian.  lemme look for the package name
[16:31] <javaJake> gaben: lol, that was funny :)
[16:32] <ThothCastel> hahahaha!!!!  it is working!!!
[16:32] <ThothCastel> ;)
[16:33] <jiffe98> this might be a vmware problem too
[16:33] <cygnuskk_> can someone help me boot into grub?
[16:33] <Wuchichichu> Hi all, I would like to install ubuntu on my dos system
[16:33] <blackshirt> cygnuskk_, whats your grub problem?
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> !install | Wuchichichu start here
[16:34] <cygnuskk_> when i boot i used to get the grub menu, i don't anymore
[16:34] <Lafiir> Since updating to 12.10 the usual Ubuntu-logo while booting is gone and I see nothing until the Loginscreen gets loaded. What broke?
[16:34] <Wuchichichu> MonkeyDust: thanks
[16:34] <javaJake> Wuchichichu: you should try to rephrase it so it's a question. For example: "I've got an old Dell that doesn't have a CD drive. How should I install Ubuntu?"
[16:34] <blackshirt> cygnuskk__ you can press shift key when boot
[16:35] <Wuchichichu> javaJake: i dont have a dell
[16:35] <Wuchichichu> its a acer
[16:35] <javaJake> Wuchichichu: just an example :)
[16:35] <Wuchichichu> oh
[16:35] <deadmund> ardchoille: I'm having trouble finding it too.  Hang on... I will find it.
[16:35] <cygnuskk_> blackshirt: at which stage?
[16:35] <awolf> Hi, problem: I have two folders in /home, one is my original folder that I renamed when someone suggested this for fixing something, The other is the right name and functions with default settings
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> Wuchichichu  i have acer too, works like a charm
[16:35] <ardchoille> deadmund: ok, and thank you very much for your efforts
[16:35] <javaJake> Wuchichichu: good luck :)
[16:35] <awolf> I need to know how to set my permissions correctly for the original folder to then rename and work again
[16:36] <awolf> or to set the permissions normally for the working folder and for accessing the old content to move back
[16:36] <carlisle_> awolf: have you changed anything other than renaming the original directory?
[16:36] <designbybeck> woah! Hold the Phone...the Additional Drives looks much different I
[16:36] <carlisle_> did you change permissions on the home directory you moved or make changes to it?
[16:36] <designbybeck> which do I pick for my NVIDIA... I don't see ..."recommend"
[16:36] <awolf> I think permissions got changed when I tried to get things working again, but I only changed permissions for those main directories
[16:36] <awolf> not for any other files or internal stuff
[16:36] <kostkon> designbybeck, it now resides in software sources, last tab on the right :P
[16:36] <designbybeck> kostkon:  I finally found it, just don't know which one to pick ;)
[16:37] <designbybeck> kostkon: pretty nice intergration!
[16:37] <awolf> btw, how do I address a comment to someone here?
[16:37] <kostkon> designbybeck, yes, i guess
[16:37] <carlisle_> awolf: just prefacing your message with their name and a 'colon' is usually enough
[16:38] <awolf> carlisle: thanks
[16:38] <brosto> having trouble getting the nvidia driver to be recognized on my laptop after installing 12.10
[16:38] <ssedano> Hi, where does ubuntu stores the bridges and vlan data (in centos is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts)
[16:38] <carlisle_> awolf: do you remember the exact files and directories you changed permissions on?
[16:38] <awolf> carlisle: did that work?
[16:38] <brosto> nvidia 460M
[16:38] <carlisle_> awolf: yep :)
[16:38] <carlisle_> oh i see what you mean
[16:38] <awolf> carlisle: I know that I only changed the main directory
[16:38] <jetjanoli> hello world
[16:38] <fooblargh> jrib: Hmm, doesn't seem like it to me :/  I'll read through the bug careful and see if it's referring to the same thing I'm seeing
[16:38] <carlisle_> awolf: can you show me the command you used to change the permissions?
[16:39] <maw> hi, after I upgraded to the latest distro using the GUI, latex broke, ALSA started play crackling sounds, emacs broke and the AMD/ATI Catalyst stuff broke. I have no idea where I should begin fixing this. Any ideas?
[16:39] <jetjanoli> :-D
[16:39] <kostkon> designbybeck, choose the "recommended" driver btw :P
[16:39] <ssedano> I mean, at /etc/network/interfaces
[16:39] <designbybeck> it didn't say it until I clicked on it kostkon
[16:39] <Wuchichichu> im a bit bored of windows world, i found it difficult, i would like to have a ubuntu since its a user friendly linux, but i dont have a usb key
[16:39] <ssedano> but I'd like to write bridges by saving files
[16:39] <designbybeck> but it installed
[16:39] <ase> I have a ATI Radeon Mobility 3650 video card, and Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't recognize it. Any way to enable my video card?
[16:39] <MarioMey2> Hello, everbody. I have a strange problem. One of my HDD partition has Ubuntu 12.04 (boot fail) with no home dir (home is in another partition). Now, I'm in another partiton, Ubuntu 12.04 fresh install. From here, using Gparted, I see that Ubuntu (boot fail) has 197GB used. But Baobab tells me that there are only 9GB used... what is more credible. Why this difference? I analized with Gparted and e2fsck, but they return no errors...
[16:39] <ubuntuuser8888> Is it possible to get plain Xfce in Ubuntu? Not Xubuntu, just plain upstream Xfce.
[16:39] <designbybeck> and didn't tell me i had to even restart i guess kostkon
[16:39] <awolf> carlisle: unfortunately, I tried several things at different times, at one point changing owner, but I KNOW that the owner is back to correct
[16:39] <designbybeck> but i suppose i should
[16:39] <kostkon> designbybeck, hmmm
[16:39] <L3mce> Wuchichichu: do you have a blank DVD?
[16:39] <awolf> carlisle: last thing I used was chmod 0700
[16:39] <carlisle_> awolf: but you didn't run something like chown -r ?
[16:39] <brosto> anyone else having similar issues?  I tried reinstalling, but no luck.  The opensource driver works (kinda), but it's a bit buggy
[16:39] <carlisle_> or chmod -r
[16:39] <Wuchichichu> L3mce: how you know that..
[16:40] <javaJake> carlisle_: chmod -R
[16:40] <carlisle_> that's the one
[16:40] <javaJake> carlisle_: iirc, -r only works on cp
[16:40] <awolf> carlisle: yes, I ran chown -R to make it back to me as user
[16:40] <carlisle_> yeah i can't remember which utilities have their recursive flag capitalized or not, everybody does it different :(
[16:40] <vicky_> my internet is not working in ubuntu 12.10 just installed..help?
[16:40] <carlisle_> awolf: oooh, so there's an issue
[16:41] <carlisle_> if you have other users in that directory besides your own it would have changed their permissions too
[16:41] <awolf> carlisle: I am the ONLY user
[16:41] <carlisle_> additionally there are some programs that may automatically create files with different users
[16:41] <awolf> carlisle: this is just my personal laptop
[16:41] <carlisle_> by users i mean owner
[16:41] <rickb> hello. I am trying to setup a pptp vpn so i can connect to my home network when i am away.. does anyone know if the localip and remote ip have to be on the same subnet as my lan or is this just some sort of passthrough to my lan?
[16:41] <L3mce> ase: I am sure it recognizes it, however it appears that quantal uses 12-6+ CCC version of fglrx, so you will not be able to use a prorprietary driver, as they have dropped support for all HD2xxx -4xxx cards
[16:41] <javaJake> vicky_: if you specify the wireless or ethernet card you are trying to use to get online, someone here might know what to do.
[16:42] <awolf> carlisle: you mean different groups like audio and such?
[16:42] <vicky_> carlisle_: my internet is not working in ubuntu 12.10 just installed..help?
[16:42] <ase> L3mce, does that mean I have to use the free/open source driver for ATI?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> rickb  there's also ##networking, conider asking there
[16:42] <L3mce> correct ase.
[16:42] <carlisle_> awolf: there are system users that might have files and directories owned by them