[00:02] <tomreyn> the ryzen host is doing fine, all threads are active, it's stable thanks to that low power idle  bios setting
[00:03] <tomreyn> so it's not busy at all, nor is the VM in terms of memory or cpu
[00:03] <tomreyn> the target device is just 8 GB, though, maybe that's the problem
[00:05] <Guest71713> Minere BTC enquanto navega e trabalha  sem deixar o pc lentão. https://getcryptotab.com/718967 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzqQN3kL4g&t=166s
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[05:49] <oerheks> :-)
[05:49] <oerheks> HE IS YOURS
[05:49] <oerheks> oops
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> morning trolls are the best :p
[05:53]  * lotuspsychje calls for the ring or sauron
[06:15] <ducasse> good morning
[06:30] <oerheks> ak34 = wiseguy ?¿
[06:30] <oerheks> hi ducasse
[06:32] <ducasse> morning oerheks - how are you and drabber today?
[06:32] <ducasse> finished stripping the bike?
[06:33] <oerheks> lazy .. nearly half way there
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:33] <oerheks> though 2 component underlayment paint
[06:34] <ducasse> morning lotuspsychje - all going well?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah we going to a spring party for kid today
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> they giveout 30c
[06:36] <ducasse> just hiding from the heat here today, over 30°C expected
[06:37] <oerheks> aye, here too, doing shopping early.. 23 minutes till openingtime
[06:41] <ducasse> did shopping yesterday, so hopefully won't need to go today
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> have a nice day guys
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> ttyl
[08:22] <EriC^^> morning all
[10:39] <matso> hi there
[10:40] <matso> is anybody here?
[10:42] <JimBuntu> I am not there, I am here
[10:43] <matso> lol
[10:44] <matso> I want a lightweight ubuntu version setting up on an old laptop
[10:45] <matso> I know lubuntu is lightweight but I need lighter than lubuntu
[11:02] <tomreyn> matso: maybe a different desktop environment than the default ubuntu one would work for you?
[11:03] <tomreyn> i.e. xubuntu, lubuntu etc.
[11:08] <tomreyn> matso: https://linuxconfig.org/8-best-ubuntu-desktop-environments-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:19] <JimBuntu> Hi BluesKaj , I hope all is great and getting better by the day!
[11:20] <BluesKaj> "Morning JimBuntu, thanks for the nice hopeful greeting. I wish the same for you and yours :-)
[11:21] <JimBuntu> Thank you, BluesKaj !
[11:22] <JimBuntu> My favorite wish... which is kinda Ubuntu related in principal, is... May you have all that you want, and want all that you have.
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu Cosmic is running quite well here and I'm happy with it....so far at least  :-)
[11:26] <JimBuntu> Wow, you already made the switch. I guess you like being cutting edge.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu, I've been a Kubuntu "tester" for many yrs
[11:30] <JimBuntu> I didn't realize you stayed in the beta, BluesKaj . That's great, we need as many beta testers as we can get.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> I hang about in #kubuntu-devel, and testing is my contribution to the development , not being a coder I stick with running the OS and reporting bugs, if any, or temporary issues etc
[11:35] <JimBuntu> Each part is important to the whole.
[11:36] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:43] <BluesKaj> and JimBuntu I see you doing very good support work in #ubuntu and your easy going attitude really helps put users, in need of help, at ease, and I'm sure it's much appreciated
[11:44] <BluesKaj> and that can be rare at times from my expoerience there :-)
[11:44] <JimBuntu> Thanks BluesKaj , I don't contribute very much any more, but when I do, I try to be more of a muse with answers than a forceful wind... which reminds me, I have a moment, I should go see if I can help.
[11:45] <JimBuntu> And... now I see that I did look recently... I'm either confused... or they are, lol.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> and I was too late with my suggestion due to my slow typing skills
[11:49] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, is it due to using English or in general? I can only imagine the additional effort of using a non-native language on a regular basis.
[11:50] <JimBuntu> As a child, I spoke German fluently... I can barely remember anything now... as a young adult I could speak traditional/proper Spanish well enough... again, I can barely carry a conversation any more... :-(
[11:51] <BluesKaj> No, I'm a native English speaker, just a lousy typer ...still speak some Swedish and French
[11:53] <JimBuntu> I learned Wolof for a voluntary mission to Africa... about the only thing I remember isn't even Wolof, it's Arabic... lol
[11:53] <JimBuntu> I wish I had learned French, instead of Spanish... and that I remembered it.
[11:55] <JimBuntu> I want to know, and will have to search for... how common Ubuntu is in Sweden.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu, we were basically forced to study French in high school here in Ontario...it was embedded in the ciriculum
[11:57] <JimBuntu> Yeah, such is the way in the South-East of Canada, a lot of tradition there. I was forced to learn some Arabic for the same reasons.
[11:57] <BluesKaj> ubuntu is quite popular in all of Scandinavia afaik.
[11:58] <JimBuntu> That's very interesting to hear!
[11:58] <BluesKaj> think Arabic would be very useful nowadays
[12:00] <JimBuntu> When my wife starting teaching a computer class for middle-school kids (what you might call grade 5 through 8) it seemed like the first time most of the families had heard it existed. She did manage to get a few to convert to it from Windows though... of course, there was one family who already knew of it, since the father had a government IT job.
[12:01]  * BluesKaj nods, interesting
[12:01] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, I don't get to use ANY Arabic on a daily basis any more... I moved from the city and am now in a VERY homogeneous area. I could almost lose my own children amongst the crowd, lol.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> heh
[12:03] <JimBuntu> I grew up in a melting pot, early on moved to an area where I was the outcast ( and paid for it on a daily basis )... I am glad to have had those experiences.
[12:05] <JimBuntu> While I agree, being able to at least speak Arabic has many uses, I found that before I left, the younger generation ( my own age at the time ) often spoke less of it than I did. They were often confused or insulted if I tried to engage them in conversation in what I presumed ( my fault ) was their native tongue. When visiting the houses of friends though, the parents were always delighted by it... again, didn't help wit
[12:05] <JimBuntu> h keeping friends my own age though, as they then were shamed by their parents about it
[12:07] <JimBuntu> An Egyptian family were NOT impressed and they reminded me, bluntly, that they were Persian.  oops.
[12:10] <BluesKaj>  :-)
[12:11] <BluesKaj> well I had to prove myself a few times at new schools as a kid, but I managed ok since i was always a "big kid" so to speak, and proved my abilities in various sports which went a long ways to becoming accepted in the schoolyard.
[12:12] <JimBuntu> If only it was so easy as an adult! or as an OS, for that matter.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> yeah, for sure
[12:50] <BluesKaj> I offered my former employer the chance to stop paying MS their yearly charges, whatever they might still be, by showing them how to install Linux on their Lab pcs, but the guy in charge of the computer services dept said to me that he considered Linux a "hobbyist system" , I laughed and asked him what their system servers at head office ran. Turns out they were all either RHEL or Ubuntu. Never heard back from him tho.
[13:03] <pauljw> heheh...
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hi pauljw, think the computer services guy drank the mS kool-ade like so many others of his generation
[13:07] <BluesKaj> MS even
[13:07] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj, not surprising.
[13:09] <pauljw> folks get comfortable and don't want to think outside that zone.
[13:09] <tomreyn> when people grow up with microsoft and turn 30, usually all hope is lost. they will dig a hole and sink in it and not accept there can be any better alternatives.
[13:09] <pauljw> :)
[13:10] <tomreyn> luckily, there are exceptions.
[13:10] <BluesKaj> think the unspoken secret why Linux hasn't been adopted in larger numbers in the companies/corporations is the "office suite" and the unfamiliar looking Desktop
[13:11] <pauljw> agreed
[13:11] <tomreyn> if you're talking desktops, then i agree. plus worries about breaking formatting of ms word documents
[13:11] <tomreyn>  / loosing the ability to exchange them with other companies / branches.
[13:13] <tomreyn> i think the major issue is that upper management does not know it, and that there is not enough marketing budget involved in changing that, though.
[13:14] <tomreyn> (yes, sad world, better solutions do not win unless there is enough money behind them)
[13:17] <pauljw> I don't think it's sad, but cost/benefit analysis makes a good case to stay with what you already have in place.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> they're still running MS 2K. Granted it probly was the best MS OS for that environment all those yrs ago, but now there must something better.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> but i've also been out of that loop for a long time too
[13:35] <pauljw> they'll no doubt end up with Win10 on the desktops.  the end-users are nothing like those of us who hang out here.  they would never be able to learn the new os in a timely manor and depending on the business, that could be disastrous.  i gave that idea up long ago when i saw that newbies want linux to change into windows rather than learn how to use linux.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> guess the compromise seems to be tablets in terms of OSs on devices,
[13:53] <pauljw> i guess, but they're not going to replace desktops in a corporate environment any time soon.  it is a painless linux experience i suppose, but most don't have a clue that that's what they're using.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> yup, that's very true...my friend also claims Linux is a hobbyist OS, but he doesn't realize his wife's 'tablet's OS uses the linux kernel
[13:57] <pauljw> :)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> fairly modified , but linux nonetheless
[14:01] <pauljw> for me personally, i'm quite happy to have the world view linux as a hobbyist OS.  i think we should abandon the idea of linux taking over the world and return to the grassroots idea of one user at a time.  only folks who share a love of the machine and a desire to learn are going to expend the required time and energy to make the leap.
[14:05] <chu> Linux has taken over the world
[14:06] <BluesKaj> well, I keep trying to fight the good fight for Linux, and I do realize the odds aren't good due to the fact that most computer users just want it to work out of the box and not be bothered by issues
[14:06] <chu> Ubuntu ❤
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ☻
[14:09] <pauljw> :)
[14:10] <pauljw> chu, only deeply hidden part of the world.  the surface has barely been scratched.
[14:11] <chu> Yeah in a way not anticipated but still
[14:11] <pauljw> :)
[14:14] <pauljw> for years i've heard the argument that we just need to be able to buy systems pre-configured with linux and all will be fine, but how many here have spent their hard earned cash to buy one of those systems?
[14:16] <pauljw> if we don't do so, the companies will see no need to provide the systems and the specialized support and they'll drop them or go out of business.
[14:22] <chu> Dell entered, dropped out, but have re-entered the market
[14:25] <pauljw> i know, i bought one of their systems in 2008(i think) and that's when i moved from pclinuxos to ubuntu.  i've since bought 2 sys76 machines.  not that i can't or don't install linux myself, but i try to support the businesses that are providing pre-installed systems.
[14:26] <chu> Yeah
[14:27] <pauljw> Dell can add or drop linux systems without damaging their business because they're huge and sell many more ms systems than linux.  but someone like system76, a small shop dedicated to linux, they need people to buy their stuff or they go under.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> system 76 seems to be more expensive than equivalent spec'd MS computers
[14:45] <pauljw> yes they are, true of most any specialized products.  they have to be in order to cover the costs of doing business when sell fewer products.
[14:49] <pauljw> *selling
[14:49] <BluesKaj> so they paint themselves into the "specialist corner rather than trying to profit from volume sakes
[14:49] <BluesKaj> sales
[14:51] <BluesKaj> I suppose that's amore realistic approach from their POV
[14:51] <pauljw> what?  they're trying to fill the need that you yourself said needed filling.  however, when the number of people willing to buy a computer with linux pre-installed is next to zero, and the cost of providing support for them must be covered by sales, the cost per unit is naturally higher.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> I said that, where?
[14:58] <pauljw> the need to just work out of the box?
[14:59] <pauljw> or do you really think that these end-users who can't be bothered with issues are at the same time capable of installing an OS.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> I meant most users don't care which OS is installed, only that it works without issue
[15:01] <pauljw> ok, i get that, but how do you propose that happens if not pre-installed and supported?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> marketing strategy, that's the key
[15:17] <pauljw> i don't see a marketing strategy that will convince you to buy a new machine instead of a $100 ebay special and installing a free os onto it.
[15:22] <BluesKaj> heh, i did buy a new machine and put Kubuntu on it immediately , but not form ebay , think amazon would be the place to market linux machines
[15:24] <BluesKaj> I see system 76 laptops there
[15:24] <BluesKaj> i give them credit for that approach for sure
[15:25] <silentchim> Hard to convince yourself to buy a new Linux special machine (Purism, System 76) when the price point is so high. It's a lot more economical to get a dell with Ubuntu, or something else and drop it in yourself. They will generally be limited to those who want to support the cause (or an antenna/camera kill switch).
[15:27] <silentchim> I try to convince pretty much everyone I know that uses a computer to switch from Windows to Linux, but until it is extremely painless and easy, most people won't bother.
[15:28] <silentchim> The biggest thing among the people I talk to is probably compatibility with the MS Office suite.
[15:28] <BluesKaj> some don't have any preference as long as it does what they want and require it to do.
[15:28] <BluesKaj> tru
[15:28] <BluesKaj> true even
[15:30] <silentchim> Yeah. It's not particularly a love for Windows, more of an "it's already there in front of me and does what I want", even if it is awful (see: Windows 10)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> i don't need to see w10 again , it was fugly and clunky
[15:31] <pauljw> for the most part, it's all they know.  computers = Windows to them.
[15:32] <pauljw> and most people don't use an office suite at all, they surf the net and write emails.
[15:33] <BluesKaj> well, see you guys later , gotta go give a friend a hand with a gazebo
[15:33] <pauljw> later BluesKaj :)
[16:29] <JimBuntu> please ignore this test
[16:41] <tomreyn> wefour -> super weirdo


[00:08] <htorque> Trevinho: "This branch has not been pushed to yet." - are you sure it's still uploading? :P
[00:08] <Trevinho> htorque: I've also looked at indicator-appmenu but I can't find something causing that
[00:09] <Trevinho> maybe it's something more related to libdbusmenu...
[00:09] <Trevinho> htorque: I know... I'm sorry, but that branch is too great (due to the fact that it's full of old revisions)
[00:09] <Trevinho> I'll notify you when it should be there
[00:09] <htorque> no problem :)
[00:12] <htorque> Trevinho: downloading now :)
[00:13] <Trevinho> nice, thanks ;)
[00:14] <Trevinho> htorque: it's so strangeusing the default ubuntu version I had the issue, compiling it again no more the problem
[00:14] <Trevinho> however the code could have some issues,that's why I've changed few bits
[00:14] <Trevinho> so I'll wait your feedback
[00:15] <htorque> Trevinho: meh, i need help building it: i get "dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found"  with "debuild -us -uc"
[00:18] <Trevinho> mhmh
[00:18] <Trevinho> debuild binary doesn't work to you?
[00:20] <htorque> that works
[00:20] <htorque> one day i'll learn all that packaging voodoo, i swear ;)
[00:21] <Trevinho> htorque: yes... I know... All the man debuild and dpkg-buildpackage manuals should help
[00:21] <Trevinho> but there are a looot of things
[00:23] <htorque> ** (nautilus:1600): DEBUG: [PRE] progess is 0.000000. [current: 0.000000, total 1]
[00:23] <htorque> ** (nautilus:1600): DEBUG: [POST] progess is 0.000000. [current: 0.000000, total -636860064]
[00:24] <htorque> Trevinho: ^^
[00:27] <htorque> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/683964/ → working case within root partition (part of it, i actually don't want to write that much to my ssd)
[00:28] <Trevinho> htorque: thanks... I was wondering something like that also if I don't really understand why it happens
[00:28] <Trevinho> however... Do you still have the issue right now?
[00:28] <Trevinho> (I mean, with this code)?
[00:29] <htorque> yes, for the first part where progress and current stay at 0.0
[00:30] <Trevinho> Mmhm... And in that period the progress goes on the wrong direction....
[00:32] <Trevinho> htorque: I hardly understand what's going on... Since the value of total changes also if nothing in the code should do that...
[00:33] <Trevinho> Also, I was already checking if that value was invalid
[00:33] <htorque> but as you from the paste, it also does that in the working case
[00:33] <htorque> +see
[00:34] <Trevinho> mh
[00:35] <Trevinho> could you send me the package you built? Maybe I'm building it with a different environment...
[00:35] <Trevinho> Also if that seeems really strange to me
[00:35] <htorque> only nautilus?
[00:38] <Trevinho> yes.... However just wait I'll retry ASAP
[00:39] <htorque> Trevinho: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/673326/trevinho-nautilus.tar.gz
[00:39] <htorque> that's all packages, 7.7mb
[00:47] <Trevinho> htorque: thanks
[00:47] <htorque> Trevinho: will try to reproduce this with a live cd tomorrow. gotta go now, it's almost 3am here. ;-)
[00:47] <Trevinho> please, could you pull the new revision and retry it?
[00:47] <htorque> oh, okay
[00:48] <Trevinho> htorque: if it's too late for you (it's the same time here :P), I can wait...
[00:48] <htorque> no, no problem :-)
[00:48] <Trevinho> however just a little log would be appreciated
[00:48] <Trevinho> thank you :)
[00:50] <htorque> Trevinho: just to make sure, that's revision 242?
[00:50] <Trevinho> yes
[00:55] <htorque> Trevinho: failing one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/683981/ - good one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/683982/
[00:55] <Trevinho> Thank you htorque
[00:57] <htorque> if you need anything else, just post it in the bug report. i'm off now, cya! :-)
[00:58] <Trevinho> ok, thanks htorque...
[00:58] <htorque> yw!
[05:37] <didrocks> good morning
[07:00] <oSoMoN> good morning
[07:55] <andyrock> Trevinho, around?
[08:34] <TeTeT> just upgraded to oneiric yesterday and now I see an indicator for apt slightly out of place: http://people.canonical.com/~tspindler/indicator-weird-place.png
[08:34] <TeTeT> worth a bug report or already known?
[08:41] <Kaleo> Andy80: sorry, I was sleeping :
[08:41] <Kaleo> :)
[08:42] <Andy80> Kaleo: don't worry ^_^
[08:43] <Andy80> Kaleo: I've assigned me a couple of bugs in the mean time, but I'll need your help to understand where to start from... just tell me when you have some spare minutes and I'll ask :)
[08:53] <Andy80> which is the key to zoom in/out the screen? Like You can see at 2:48 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Tn3Z8OklQ
[09:35] <mardy> Kaleo: about bug 809202, do you prefer having one key per component, or a single key for all Unity2D?
[09:40] <Kaleo> mardy: a single key please
[09:43] <mardy> Kaleo: that's my preference too. Will do!
[09:44] <Kaleo> mardy: thanks!
[09:44] <Zhenech>  /wi35
[09:44] <Zhenech> ups
[09:59] <Andy80> mardy: thanks for merging :)
[09:59] <andyrock> kamstrup, hi... i can't find a way to get the mount point from a gvolume
[09:59] <mardy> Andy80: thanks to you for the code :-)
[10:01] <Andy80> mardy: I've a little question about the Unity-2d code: when a user click on a Launcher icon, a specific istance of QMenu is showed. I can find all the code of the menu (where the menu is composed, the text is filled ecc...) but I cannot find the line of code that shows the menu O_o
[10:02] <Andy80> mardy: the method should be popup() but I tried to grep inside the code and it's not available anywhere. How do you show the menu?
[10:02] <mardy> Andy80: let me have a look...
[10:03] <Andy80> I start my VM in the mean time...
[10:03] <andyrock> kamstrup, and if  i don't find it i can't use mount point into the blacklist
[10:05] <mardy> Andy80: see the showMenu() function, in launcher/LauncherList.qml
[10:06] <Andy80> mardy: I knew!!! I knew I should have looked in the QML :P
[10:07] <mardy> Andy80: :-p
[10:07] <kamstrup> andyrock: not sure, but g_volume_get_mount() followed by g_mount_get_default_location() not working?
[10:08] <andyrock> Kaleo, it think it works for mounted volumes... but we need also the mount point of umounted volumes
[10:09] <andyrock> in fact g_volume_get_mount return NULL if volume isn't mounted
[10:11] <Andy80> mardy: what I want to do is to catch also the MouseDown event and not only the MouseClick one... so we can fix the bug #688830 what do you think about?
[10:13] <mardy> Andy80: yes, that's good. But the bug resolution might be tricky, because I don't know if the popup menu will receive the mouse events (it may be that the MouseArea grabs the mouse while the button is pressed)
[10:14] <mardy> Andy80: but I'm just speculating, maybe it will just work out of the box :-)
[10:14] <Andy80> mardy: only trying I will able to know it :P the only good thing is that I don't have to re-compile anything if I just have to modify the qml ;)
[10:15] <mardy> Andy80: yep :-)
[10:55] <sao> I'm just porting my unity lens to the new api available in Oneiric. However I have just noticed the documentation on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses has not been updated. Is there a reason for this (as the API might not be completed yet or so...) or is this a pending issue?
[11:00] <JohnLea> Cimi; compare the screenshot you posted to http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/dash_home_11.10.png
[11:00] <Cimi> JohnLea: I did that, read in #dx
[11:00] <JohnLea> Cimi; the Dash tint should be the same in both as they are both using the same background
[11:01] <JohnLea> Cimi; woops, wrong channel ;-)
[11:01] <Cimi> JohnLea: that's why I have taken the sshot with the wallpaper
[11:12] <Andy80> mardy: it looks like I cannot use the onPressed property: unity-2d-launcher: [WARNING] file:///home/andrea/Documents/development/unity-2d-bug-688830//launcher/LauncherList.qml:149:9: Cannot assign to non-existent property "onPressed"
[11:13] <Andy80> mardy: I really cannot understand why... it's in the documentation...
[11:27] <kamstrup> sao: there are a few kinks to work yet
[11:27] <kamstrup> sao: which langauge?
[11:27] <kamstrup> language, even
[11:28] <sao> kamstrup: vala. I'm currently looking at unity-lens-files to get my lens up and running.
[11:29] <kamstrup> sao: that should be mostly smooth sailing then - we havea few issues with the Python bindings...
[11:29] <sao> kamstrup: OK good.
[11:38] <andyrock> kamstrup, i've talked with gio hackers
[11:38] <andyrock> there is no way to get the mount point
[11:38] <andyrock> from an umounted gvolume
[11:39] <andyrock> because it's generated on request to avoid duplicates
[11:39] <kamstrup> andyrock: ah, right, that's what you meant :-)
[11:40] <kamstrup> andyrock: i've battled with identifying devices in zeitgeist as well... it's really tricky business
[11:43] <andyrock> kamstrup, we can use the same algorithm used to generate mount point but we cannot be sure at 100%
[11:44] <Trevinho> seb128: aroud?
[11:44] <Trevinho> around*
[11:51]  * ogra_ looks for some info on the "add .desktop to launcher" procedure, mainly how to add an entry from a script in a chrooted environment
[11:52] <ogra_> it doesnt seem like that is documented anywhere, we have a few packqges in ubuntu that would need a transition from the g_conf favorites list (which was trivial to append to in the above case) to the "new way" (whatever that is)
[11:52] <seb128> ogra_, it's a gsettings key
[11:52] <seb128> Trevinho, yes?
[11:52] <ogra_> seb128, ah, oh
[11:53] <kamstrup> andyrock: yeah - i am not sure that is going to be more reliable than any other hack though
[11:54] <ogra_> seb128, hmm, all i could find were dbus method to add stuff, where can i find any info about that (i have no dbus running in the chroot)
[11:54] <ogra_> *methods
[11:54] <Trevinho> seb128: I just wanted to know against which package I should have sent the merge request for unity
[11:54] <Trevinho> support for nautilus
[11:55] <Trevinho> but I simply sent it to ~3v1n0/nautilus/branch-name...
[11:55] <Trevinho> seb128: however the merge request is already up right now ;)
[11:56] <seb128> ogra_, gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favoriteS?
[11:56] <seb128> ogra_, gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites?
[11:56] <seb128> ogra_, get -> set to set to a value
[11:56] <ogra_> seb128, doesnt that require a running dbus too ?
[11:56] <seb128> ogra_, get no, set yes, use dbus-launch ... ?
[11:57] <ogra_> i'm operating from initrd ... chrooted
[11:57] <seb128> ogra_, well ask desrt on #ubuntu-desktop, dconf is made to have writes done by a service
[11:57] <seb128> ogra_, you can install a .gsettings-override (similar to old gconf-defaults)
[11:57] <seb128> Trevinho, the new merge request you did is right
[11:57] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
[11:57] <Trevinho> thank you seb128
[11:58] <ogra_> hmm, that will get really complex, isnt there a way like we had in natty, where my package could just drop a gconf override file in place ?
[11:58] <seb128> i.e lp~ubuntu-desktop not lp:ubuntu
[11:58] <ogra_> bah, i type to slow
[11:58] <seb128> ;-)
[11:58] <ogra_> seb128, thanks ! thats what i was looking for :)
[11:58] <Trevinho> sorry for using the bad main-branch, but I used that to test and I wondered it was the right one also for the packaging tasks...
[11:59] <seb128> ogra_, .gsettings-override in the debian dir, they will be installed as .gschema.override on disk, you should have a few examples on disk
[11:59] <seb128> Trevinho, no worry, thanks for the work ;-)
[11:59] <ogra_> hmm, i need to do that different i guess, since i need to parse the existing list first
[12:00]  * ogra_ checks dh_installgsettings
[12:16] <Andy80> mardy: I've tried with this piece of code before the onClicked: http://pastebin.com/LMWqDTAH but, don't know why, it doesn't work at all. The debug message is never printed and of course the menu doesn't popup
[12:22] <mardy> Andy80: the item where the onCLicked handler is defined is a LauncherItem, and LauncherItem doesn't have a "pressed" signal. You should work on that, first
[12:23] <Andy80> mardy: you mean the LauncherItem cpp file or the qml one?
[12:24] <mardy> Andy80: qml
[12:30] <Andy80> mardy: I see... but simply adding onPressed: item.pressed(mouse) to that file in DropItem doesn't work... maybe even DropItem has a cpp part?
[12:31] <mardy> Andy80: did you add it to the MauseArea around line 165?
[12:32] <Andy80> mardy: sorry I forgot this line too: signal pressed(variant mouse)
[12:33] <Andy80> mardy: now the Menu popups ^_^ but I still have to work on it because if I start dragging then I release it has a strange behaviour, but I'm on the good path I think
[12:33] <mardy> Andy80: great!
[12:34] <Andy80> mardy: shortly: when I press the mouse button, the menu appears, but when I start dragging it disappears.
[12:34] <Andy80> I'll continue this evening, I've to go now, sorry :\
[12:41] <htorque> Trevinho: sorry for bringing you bad news after your late night ;-) as for your comment - in all bad cases i reproduced, nautilus *did* show a perfectly fine working progress dialog.
[12:50] <ephan> I'm doing some translation, and I'm wondering, what is "Automaximize value"?
[12:51] <njpatel> ephan, the percentage of the screen a window takes up before we just maximise it
[12:51] <ephan> Ah! So it's not automaximizing the value, but it's the automaximize value
[12:52] <njpatel> right :)
[12:52] <ephan> Thanks njpatel!
[12:52] <htorque> smstacking: hi! you probably cannot explain why compiz' mem usage raised by 40mb within a minute after restarting unity? http://img.xrmb2.net/images/936664.png
[12:53] <smstacking> htorque: nope
[12:53] <htorque> smstacking: too bad. thanks anyway! :-)
[12:54] <njpatel> htorque, I still need to fix a leak in panel-service, right?
[12:55] <htorque> njpatel: that's definitely still there, yes
[12:56] <ephan> Translations are making me nervous. Some guy some time ago translated everything in the unity package to Portuguese, but over 90% of it is wrong...
[12:59] <njpatel> htorque, dammit, will take a look
[13:00] <njpatel> htorque, I still approach bugs with the optimism that they will magically get fixed by someone else ;)
[13:36] <nerochiaro> mardy: https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/unity-2d/unity-2d-exclude-filter-proxy-model/+merge/73836 should be good to go
[13:36] <nerochiaro> mardy: fixed the comment nitpick
[13:37] <htorque> njpatel: hehe, as long as not all work with the same optimism... :P we pinpointed the panel leak  to be in or be caused by the appmenu indicator, but my valgrind wasn't helpful, so i've no idea how to help.
[13:37] <njpatel> htorque, oh, so it was in appmenu
[13:37] <njpatel> htorque, I'll try and take a look today, see if some fresh eyes help
[13:38] <htorque> njpatel: well, the mem increase showed when using the indicator-loader with appmenu.so
[13:38] <njpatel> right
[13:38] <htorque> plus, applications with more top-level menus cause more memory raise
[13:44] <davidcalle> kamstrup, ping
[13:45] <davidcalle> About : AttributeError: 'gi._gobject.GProps' object has no attribute 'categories'
[13:47] <davidcalle> Will it need a new libunity release to be fixed or is there something I could do to workaround it?
[13:47] <davidcalle> kamstrup ^^
[13:48] <njpatel> davidcalle, I believe kamstrup is working on a update to libunity that fixes the categories/filters setting for python
[13:49] <davidcalle> njpatel, ty
[13:50] <kamstrup> davidcalle, njpatel: there's no workaround in Python i am afraid - I'll try to get the api fixes out by tomorrow, but there are a few places that need forward porting because we break libunity, so I can't get it out today
[13:52] <davidcalle> kamstrup, ok, if you need testing on python <-> lenses , I will be happy to help
[13:56] <kamstrup> davidcalle: if you are on ayatana-devel i'll throw a mail up there when things shape up
[13:57] <davidcalle> kamstrup, ok
[14:33] <nerochiaro> mardy: i noticed that i had set the oneiric branch as the target for the MR you recently approved (invertMatch in the proxy model). can it be backported to natty please '
[14:33] <nerochiaro> ?
[14:34] <mardy> nerochiaro: sure, just make a second request
[14:34] <nerochiaro> mardy: same code, just different target branch ?
[14:34] <mardy> nerochiaro: yep
[14:36] <nerochiaro> mardy: done: https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/unity-2d/unity-2d-exclude-filter-proxy-model/+merge/74443
[14:38] <mardy> nerochiaro: and approved :-)
[14:38] <nerochiaro> mardy: thank you
[15:02] <njpatel> Kaleo, I'm testing Trevinho's panel-service branch, it seems pretty robust so far, would appreciate if you could do some testing of the unity-2d side please so we can figure out if we can merge it for tomorrow
[15:02] <andyrock> JohnLea, ping
[15:04] <JohnLea> andyrock, pong
[15:06] <andyrock> I'm sorry but identify a cd from the other is not possible...
[15:06] <andyrock> using Label drive IMHO is not a good solution
[15:07] <andyrock> so we should add the difference between
[15:07] <andyrock> filesytem (removable or unremovable) and physical devices
[15:08] <andyrock> a filesystems have an uuid and physical devices  have a syslink
[15:09] <andyrock> power use can specify to blacklist LABEL
[15:09] <andyrock> i will try to add this to the code
[15:09] <andyrock> but use it by default it's not cool
[15:11] <Kaleo> njpatel: understood
[15:11] <njpatel> ta
[15:19]  * Andy80 is back!
[15:51] <Andy80> mardy: I cannot understand why if I move the mouse the menu is canceled :\
[16:12] <Andy80> Kaleo: ping
[16:27] <Andy80> I want excuse me if in the next 2 minutes I could: 1) make noise, 2) make spam, 3) seems crazy, but......
[16:27] <Andy80> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[16:27] <Andy80> OOOOOOOOOOHHHH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:28] <Andy80> F************************ YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :D
[16:41] <jcastro> Andy80: got the email I take it?
[16:43] <Andy80> jcastro: yeah :D
[16:44] <Andy80> please let me celebrate for at least 1 hour then I'll get back to coding :D
[16:49] <andyrock> jcastro and all other guys, thx :)
[16:51] <Andy80> Italian Stallions II - the revenge! :D
[16:51] <Andy80> omg I'm too happy!
[18:21] <Trevinho> njpatel and Kaleo it's nice to see you're looking at my stuff :P
[18:22] <Trevinho> jcastro: thanks for the sponsorship ;)
[18:22] <Trevinho> Your Italian Stallions won't leave you alone!
[18:33] <Trevinho> htorque: I'm sorry about that...
[18:33] <Trevinho> I've to check that branch better
[18:33] <Trevinho> but I' hardly understand what's going on.
[18:34] <Trevinho> htorque: maybe I'd need some more help on your side
[19:08] <htorque> Trevinho: back, whatever you need :-)
[20:29] <kscloud> Can anyone point me to a bug about Qt apps crashing Compiz/not working in Oneiric?
[21:19] <davidcalle> Hey jono
[21:19] <jono> hey davidcalle!
[21:20] <davidcalle> jono, the libunity fix for python lenses should land tomorrow, so I should be ready on monday to spread the word about the Books lens.
[21:24] <ajmitch> davidcalle: there's documentation about how lenses are done now? :)
[21:25] <davidcalle> ajmitch, nope. But there will be an AppDev Week session on python lenses on friday. Documentation should come next week.
[21:25] <ajmitch> davidcalle: great, I need to rewrite my horrid code to work for oneiric
[21:26] <davidcalle> ajmitch, what's your lens?
[21:26] <ajmitch> it's a launchpad lens, I didn't release it for natty
[21:26] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-launchpad, code isn't particularly useful
[21:27] <davidcalle> https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-lens-sample/unity-place-python is the best Oneiric python lens to date. But it doesn't work, it's waiting for a fix in libunity.
[21:28] <davidcalle> *looking at your code*
[21:31] <davidcalle> ajmitch, do you have a screenshot? I'd love to see how bugs are presented.
[21:33] <ajmitch> no I don't
[21:33]  * ajmitch doesn't have a natty system available just at the moment
[21:58] <jono> davidcalle, hey
[21:58] <jono> sorry was on the phone
[21:59] <davidcalle> jono, :)
[21:59] <jono> awesome, can't wait to spread the word!
[21:59] <jono> if you can send me a screenshot I will blog it
[21:59] <jono> when you are ready
[21:59] <davidcalle> jono, I will
[21:59] <jono> :-)
[22:00] <davidcalle> jono, have you seen the mockups for the new dev site?
[22:00] <jono> davidcalle, which site?
[22:01] <davidcalle> The one your new designer, john Oxton, is doing!
[22:01] <jono> ahhh yeah
[22:01] <jono> it is looking good
[22:01] <davidcalle> jono, I was in a testing session on tuesday. It's gorgeous :)
[22:01] <jono> developer.ubuntu.com
[22:01] <jono> davidcalle, sweet :-)
[22:02] <jono> yeah I am excited about the work going on there
[22:02] <davidcalle> The elementary guys are raising the bar, though
[22:02] <davidcalle> http://elementaryos.org/developers


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[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coinor-dylp [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1.10.4-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coinor-dylp [s390x] (focal-proposed) [1.10.4-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted csound [arm64] (focal-proposed) [1:6.13.0~dfsg-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted csound [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [1:6.13.0~dfsg-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-smartystreets-go-aws-auth [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lammps [arm64] (focal-proposed) [20190919+dfsg2-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lammps [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [20190919+dfsg2-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtorrent [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.13.8-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtorrent [armhf] (focal-proposed) [0.13.8-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coinor-dylp [arm64] (focal-proposed) [1.10.4-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted csound [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1:6.13.0~dfsg-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted csound [s390x] (focal-proposed) [1:6.13.0~dfsg-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lammps [armhf] (focal-proposed) [20190919+dfsg2-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtorrent [arm64] (focal-proposed) [0.13.8-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtorrent [s390x] (focal-proposed) [0.13.8-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxcrypt [s390x] (focal-proposed) [1:4.4.10-9]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: net-snmp [s390x] (focal-proposed/main) [5.8+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
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[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lammps [amd64] (focal-proposed) [20190919+dfsg2-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtorrent [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [0.13.8-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: net-snmp [i386] (focal-proposed/main) [5.8+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted csound [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1:6.13.0~dfsg-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxcrypt [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [1:4.4.10-9]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lammps [s390x] (focal-proposed) [20190919+dfsg2-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxcrypt [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1:4.4.10-9]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxcrypt [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1:4.4.10-9]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ndpi [armhf] (focal-proposed) [3.0-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openturns [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1.14-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-backcall [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-demgengeo [arm64] (focal-proposed) [1.4-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-demgengeo [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [1.4-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-envisage [amd64] (focal-proposed) [4.9.0-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-socksipychain [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2.1.0-1]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-ggraph [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0-2]
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxcrypt [arm64] (focal-proposed) [1:4.4.10-9]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openturns [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.14-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-demgengeo [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.4-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-demgengeo [s390x] (focal-proposed) [1.4-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-wsproto [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.15.0-2]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-ggraph [armhf] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0-2]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-ggraph [s390x] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0-2]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-boxfnonce [s390x] (focal-proposed) [0.1.1-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-derive-builder-core [s390x] (focal-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ndpi [amd64] (focal-proposed) [3.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-demgengeo [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1.4-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-ggraph [arm64] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0-2]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-boxfnonce [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.1.1-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmnx [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.11+ds-2]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-ggraph [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0-2]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-psycogreen [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cargo-platform [s390x] (focal-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-boxfnonce [arm64] (focal-proposed) [0.1.1-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-boxfnonce [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [0.1.1-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cargo-platform [arm64] (focal-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cargo-platform [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-derive-builder-core [arm64] (focal-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-derive-builder-core [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-gstreamer-audio-sys [s390x] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-1] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-tls-parser [s390x] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.9.2-1] (i386-excludes)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-trust-dns-proto [s390x] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-1] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-boxfnonce [armhf] (focal-proposed) [0.1.1-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cargo-platform [armhf] (focal-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-derive-builder-core [armhf] (focal-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-tls-parser [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.9.2-1] (i386-excludes)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cargo-platform [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-gstreamer-audio-sys [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-1] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-derive-builder-core [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-trust-dns-proto [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.8.0-1] (no packageset)
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[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-servo-freetype-sys [amd64] (focal-proposed) [4.0.5-1]
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[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-tui [arm64] (focal-proposed) [0.8.0-1]
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[15:44] <billybigr> hey all anyone alive?
[17:36] <billybigr> anyone alive?
[17:37] <billybigr> i need to report an error in the 12.04 server guide
[18:44] <SJUDGE> Can someone please tell me how you can find the pages you have subscribed to in the Ubuntu Community Wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[19:03] <billybigr> anyone alive?
[19:03] <billybigr> i need to report an error in the 12.04 server guide
[20:29] <head_victim> billybigr: if you can't find anyone around I'd suggest filing a bug report tonotify them
[20:31] <head_victim> billybigr: a link to do it with is - https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+filebug


[12:15] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[12:52] <Riddell> Mez: hi
[12:52] <Riddell> fromoze: KDE stuff isn't in rosetta yet
[12:53] <Mez> Riddell: i've just noticed that debian have added a couple of things on k3b, that we havent't like musepakc support etc
[12:53] <Riddell> eek!  that'll never do
[12:53] <Riddell> what's musepack?
[12:53] <Mez> It's a type of aido codec
[12:53] <Mez> they also have
[12:53] <Mez> libhal-storage-dev, libpopt-dev
[12:54] <Mez> do we need them - hal support works fine without them
[12:54] <Riddell> what is popt?
[12:55] <Mez>  lib for parsing cmdline parameters
[12:56] <Riddell> strange, should be needed by a KDE program
[12:57] <Mez> actually, onely kde app that dpeends on it is kino
[01:01] <Mez> to be fair Riddell we're still ahead of them
[01:01] <Riddell> phew, you had me worries there
[01:01] <Mez> they're on 0.12.1
[01:01] <Mez> we;re on 0.12.2
[01:02] <Mez> but, still, shall I add resmgr and musepack support (and not too sure about libhal-storage
[01:02] <Mez> or libpopt
[01:03] <Mez> plus, they don't have k3b-mp3
[01:03] <Mez> Riddell, I'll leave libpopt and libhal-storage for now
[01:05] <Riddell> Mez: libmpcdec-dev should be fine, resmgr is in universe so we can't really do that
[01:05] <Mez> ok
[01:05] <Mez> though to be fair, the build wont work until X is fixed
[01:06] <Riddell> and we should dig deeper to find out what popt is for and if hal-storage adds anything
[01:06] <Riddell> Mez: they don't have k3b-mp3 becau
[01:06] <Riddell> Mez: they don't have k3b-mp3 because debian doesn't have mp3 issues
[01:06] <Mez> Riddell, they dont include mp3 suppor at all
[01:07] <Mez> Riddell, shall i email kelbert?
[01:07] <Riddell> Mez: they don't?
[01:07] <Riddell> I wonder why not
[01:07] <Mez> not as far as I can see
[01:08] <Mez> oh, sorry they do
[01:08] <Mez> I didnt notice it
[01:08] <Mez> Riddell, shall I email kelbert
[01:08] <Riddell> depends libmad0 MPEG audio decoder library
[01:08] <Riddell> Mez: sure good idea
[08:51] <pef> hi !
[09:37] <JRe> hi
[09:40] <pef> JRe: hi :)
[09:42] <JRe> pef: hi
[11:46] <JRe> is it the same bug than the one of Kubunt: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61850
[11:46] <JRe> ???
[11:53] <Riddell> JRe: looks like it
[11:53] <JRe> Riddell: should i give a link to the bug in the ubuntu report ?
[11:54] <Riddell> JRe: yes please
[12:21] <JRe> pef: better power now ;) ?
[12:21] <pef> JRe: quiter :)
[12:21] <pef> s/quiter/quieter/
[12:21] <JRe> pef: ow cool!
[01:23] <\sh> i think we found one issue on hp 6120 and kubuntu install cd
[01:23] <\sh> (hoary)
[01:23] <\sh> the germany keyboard layout behaves differently between kubuntu and ubuntu hoary install
[01:23] <\sh> on hp 6120
[01:47] <JRe> the good is pef or pef2 ?
[01:49] <pef> JRe: pef
[01:49] <JRe> :)
[02:11] <JRe> Riddell: oh BTW have you investigated about the possibility to integrate KFtpGrabber or Kasablanca in Breezy, or is it imopssible due to libssl-dev ?
[02:19] <Riddell> JRe: no, I'm still unclear on that
[02:19] <JRe> Riddell: ok
[02:20] <Riddell> are they linked or dlopened?
[02:21] <JRe> Riddell: linked
[02:21] <JRe> Riddell: and have GPL + exception
[02:21] <JRe> Riddell: apparently dlopen is impossible
[02:23] <Riddell> aparantly KDE does dlopen
[02:23] <Riddell> it all sounds a bit dodgey to me
[02:24] <JRe> Riddell: okay but it's not good with the GPL + exception ?
[02:24] <JRe> Riddell: because it's linked to QT which is GPL, right '
[02:24] <Riddell> JRe: no because Qt... yes
[02:24] <JRe> Riddell: aaaarg!
[02:26] <JRe> Riddell: tough there is many packages GPL and depending on libssl-dev in official repo, no ?
[02:27] <JRe> Riddell: i don't think that all are dlopened it
[02:48] <jjesse> just wanted to say i reloaded my laptop over the weekend w/ hoary kubuntu (it was an upgrade from warty to hoary and the i added kubuntu instead of just installing kubuntu)
[02:48] <jjesse> and the installation was a breeze and it works great so good job :)
[02:48] <jjesse> it works wonderful on my laptop and i've had no issues
[02:49] <Riddell> woo!
[02:50] <jjesse> waiting now for breezy
[02:51] <JRe> jjesse: ;)
[03:22] <\sh> anybody using actual Xorg -43 and kde?
[03:31] <Riddell> \sh: would you recommend it?
[03:37] <\sh> aehm...keyboard is working (in a strange way but) with kde
[03:37] <\sh> but not with gnome ,-)
[03:37] <\sh> changing to X ,-)
[03:42] <\sh> Riddell: you're scaring me now
[03:42] <\sh> what u did to the control center
[03:44] <Riddell> \sh: system settings?
[03:44] <\sh> yes
[03:44] <Riddell> made it usable :)
[03:45] <\sh> windows web style...
[03:45] <Riddell> ?
[03:46] <\sh> ah...
[03:46] <\sh> ok..kcontrol is old style...and system_setting should replace it?
[03:50] <Riddell> it's not like windows at all (it's a rip-off of MacOS)
[03:56] <JRe> Riddell: fvisibility issue comes from the GCC version ?
[03:57] <Riddell> JRe: how do you mean?
[03:57] <Riddell> fvisibility is turned on by KDE compile if it detects a good version of GCC
[03:58] <JRe> Riddell: because on Mandriva, they have GCC 4.0 and there is no fvisibility issue compiling KDE
[03:58] <Riddell> they have gcc 3.4 I think
[03:58] <JRe> Riddell: ok!
[03:59] <JRe> Riddell: no apparently they have GCC4 with cooker
[03:59] <JRe> Riddell: and it works fine
[04:00] <JRe> Riddell: (i am talking with a mandriva developper)
[04:00] <Riddell> JRe: ask him if they had to change anything (such as qt)
[04:01] <JRe> Riddell: it say me that it probably come from gcc
[04:03] <Riddell> what does?
[04:04] <Riddell> JRe: who are you talking to?
[04:04] <JRe> Riddell: ok i'll ask to the madriva gcc maintainer
[04:05] <JRe> Riddell: i'm talking with Laurent Montel which is programming Kat but also working for mandriva
[04:05] <Riddell> aah
[04:05] <JRe> Riddell: I gave me the email address of gcc maintainer so i can ask him how he made gcc4 running out of fvisibility issue
[04:06] <JRe> s/i/He/
[04:33] <\sh> Riddell: libopenext-dev can't be isntalled because of glu stuff
[04:34] <\sh> liopenexr even
[04:35] <Riddell> ah, glu.  what fun
[04:37] <\sh> yes...and tomorrow is the last date for MOM fixes btw
[04:37] <\sh> merges even
[04:38] <JRe> MOM ?
[04:38] <\sh> MergeOMatic
[04:38] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/
[04:55] <\sh> Riddell: can u fix the deps?
[04:56] <Riddell> \sh: just libopenexr you think needing done?
[05:26] <JRe> Riddell: okay i have mandriva gcc maintainer response
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: the bug is here http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19664
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: and he uses this patches:
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/gcc/gcc40-visibility1.patch
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/gcc/gcc40-visibility2.patch
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: it does not resolve everything
[05:28] <JRe> but it resolves KDE issues
[05:28] <JRe> Riddell: hope that will help
[05:28] <Riddell> JRe: thanks
[05:42] <\sh> Riddell: libarts1-dev: depends on  libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3.3.3) but will not be installed :(
[05:48] <Riddell> time for a new chroot
[05:48] <\sh> pbuilder login
[10:12] <seth_k> Riddell, any timeframe you know of for KDE stuff building again? Is it dependent on Xorg still?
[10:13] <seth_k>   kdelibs4-dev: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <seth_k>                 Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <Riddell> seth_k: I need to get my head around it then I'll upload kdelibs (and qt?)
[10:13] <crimsun> yeah, still waiting on xbase-clients afaik
[10:13] <Riddell> I'll just remove xbase-clients since there's nothing in there and probably won't be ever again
[10:35] <\sh> Riddell: can u get rid of xbase-clients during this evening? so I can upload a bunch of MoMs tonight ,-)
[10:36] <Riddell> \sh: I'm expeciting it to arrive in breezy-changes any second
[10:38] <\sh> Riddell: you rock
[10:43] <Riddell> kdelibs_3.4.1-0ubuntu9_source.changes ACCEPTED  there she is
[10:44] <\sh> petting kdelibs..compile honey...compile
[10:46] <\sh> seth_k: w8 for the archives;)
[10:46] <seth_k> yep, just noticed :P
[10:47] <\sh> and check http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html
[10:47] <Riddell> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/


[01:01] <handsome_feng> tsimonq2: Hi, by any chance, could you help upload the ukwm? I have updated the package and the PPA. :)
[01:04] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: Got a link?
[01:04] <handsome_feng> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-members/+archive/ubuntu/newpackages
[01:05] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: You've checked Lintian, copyright, etc.?
[01:05] <handsome_feng> Yes
[01:05] <tsimonq2> Alright, cool.
[01:06] <handsome_feng> lintian -i -I --pedantic and licensecheck -r . | grep -v "KNOWN"
[01:06] <tsimonq2> I'll run it through my usual checks but in the meantime, please update bug 1740252 with a Feature Freeze Exception, just in case it's decided that it does break Feature Freeze.
[01:06] <tsimonq2> Oh
[01:06] <tsimonq2> I see that you did that :)
[01:07] <tsimonq2> Well, so the bug title was updated, but in the bug description, please provide a short description for why the Release Team should let it in.
[01:07] <tsimonq2> (Not that there are any problems with it, but still :) )
[01:08] <handsome_feng> fine, I will do it now
[01:10] <tsimonq2> Awesome.
[01:11] <tsimonq2> slangasek: If you're around, does the Release Team object to me uploading ukwm? (It'll sit in the NEW queue anyways, but it'd be good to get your thoughts.)
[01:23] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: One very minor Lintian thing you might want to either look into or override is this:
[01:23] <tsimonq2> libukwm-1-0: shlib-calls-exit usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libukwm-1.so.0.0.0
[01:23] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, lgtm
[01:24] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: Oh, and I would also see if you should continue to disable s390x testing or if that no longer applies (see debian/control)
[01:24] <tsimonq2> s/control/rules/
[01:27] <handsome_feng> emmm, I think we don't need it anymore
[01:32] <tsimonq2> OK cool.
[01:32] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: Anything else?
[01:32] <handsome_feng> tsimonq2: Hi, How did you get the info of "libukwm-1-0: shlib-calls-exit usr/lib/xxxx", I run lintian but didn't get that
[01:33] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: Here are my Lintian args: -i -EvIL +pedantic --verbose
[01:34] <tsimonq2> I got it using those.
[01:35] <handsome_feng> Got it! Thanks! :) and BTW, Is it possible to help upload the other kylin packages during the following days? :P
[01:35] <tsimonq2> I can upload them now. :)
[01:37] <handsome_feng> Oh, Fantastic!
[01:37] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: Which ones?
[01:37] <tsimonq2> And do you have FFe bugs for them?
[01:38] <handsome_feng> Yes, LP: #1740465
[01:38] <handsome_feng> LP: #1741209 , LP: #1738680 , LP: #1743554
[01:39] <tsimonq2> Sure, I'll do a review on each, just be sure to put in the bug description why the Release Team should let these in :)
[01:39] <handsome_feng> And all this packages have uploaded the the PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-members/+archive/ubuntu/newpackages
[01:40] <tsimonq2> Right
[01:43] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: I don't consider this a blocker, but in peony-extensions's debian/copyright, the spacing is off
[01:43] <tsimonq2> In some places, tabs are used instead of spaces
[01:43] <tsimonq2> Please fix the formatting on the next upload
[01:44] <handsome_feng> oh, I will
[01:44] <tsimonq2> You also don't need DHFLAGS=--parallel in debian/rules because that's the default from debhelper 10 (I think?) and beyond.
[01:44] <Unit193> 10+, yeah.
[01:45] <tsimonq2> Ah, right. I knew it was either 10 or 11.
[01:47] <handsome_feng> Ok, I have update this in the github, but didn't update to the ppa, should I update it now?
[01:48] <tsimonq2> It's no problem, I'll upload this as it is, just upload an ubuntu2 revision once it's accepted with the changes :)
[01:49] <tsimonq2> A couple non-blocking Lintian things to look at:
[01:49] <tsimonq2> peony-extensions source: autotools-pkg-config-macro-not-cross-compilation-safe configure.ac (line 30)
[01:49] <tsimonq2> peony-extensions source: insecure-copyright-format-uri http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/
[01:50] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, this is good. Uploading now.
[01:50] <handsome_feng> Thanks, I will fix that in next version
[01:51] <tsimonq2> Cool :)
[01:52] <tsimonq2> Standards-version on ukui-window-switch is outdated.
[01:53] <tsimonq2> Some comments in the debian/rules file aren't needed, you might want to clean that up.
[01:55] <tsimonq2> Hm, so ukui-window-switch is depwait on libukwm-1-dev:amd64 (>= 1.1.0) -- so I guess I'll have to wait to upload this until ukwm has been accepted.
[01:56] <handsome_feng> Fine, and I will update the ukwm during the time
[01:57] <tsimonq2> OK cool :)
[01:58] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: On kylin-burner, I would check if some of these build dependencies are needed. Maybe gnome-common is needed, but if you haven't done a review of these, on next upload it might be good to remove what isn't needed. :)
[01:58] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, Standards-version is outdated.
[02:00] <tsimonq2> I would also be careful that none of these binary package names conflict with anything else. They don't seem to, but it might be good to be explicit :)
[02:01] <handsome_feng> Thanks, I will pay attention next time
[02:02] <tsimonq2> OK, no problem :)
[02:03] <tsimonq2> I have to go eat dinner, but when I get back, I'll finish reviewing these.
[02:05] <handsome_feng> OK, :)
[02:13] <tsimonq2> OK, back.
[02:17] <handsome_feng> Oh, So fast
[02:17] <tsimonq2> :)
[02:18] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: kylin-burner is actually FTBFS, here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5XHVXhZZtg/
[02:18] <tsimonq2> So you're missing a build dependency there I think.
[02:19] <tsimonq2> I'll review kylin-video while that's fixed.
[02:20] <handsome_feng> emmmm, thanks, I will info you when it fixed
[02:21] <tsimonq2> OK
[02:27] <tsimonq2> kylin-video looks good, uploading.
[02:27] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: One thing I would recommend is to add Vcs-* headers in debian/control on the next upload for all of these packages
[02:28] <handsome_feng> Ok, got it!
[02:29] <tsimonq2> Cool :D
[06:55] <slangasek> tsimonq2: release team doesn't care about new packages in the queue
[06:55] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ok cool
[22:57] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Dibs.
[22:58] <Unit193> Stop subbing to mail! :P
[22:58] <tsimonq2> :P
[22:58] <Unit193> tsimonq2: Was just about to file a sync for ophcrack too, switching to Qt5 might be of interest.  You want that too or should I file?
[22:59] <tsimonq2> Unit193: I'll take care of that.
[22:59] <Unit193> \o/
[22:59] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Get upload access already. :P
[22:59] <Unit193> Now I'm just waiting for xserver-xorg-video-ati.
[23:00] <tsimonq2> Unit193: For future ref, please build yer stuff against -proposed.
[23:02] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Should ophcrack have an FFe bug?
[23:03] <tsimonq2> Unit193: It isn't seeded, and Qt 5 is Cool And All, but also, you know, Feature Freeze is a thing. :P
[23:04] <tsimonq2> Unit193: xca> Make sure to send to Debian.
[23:10] <tsimonq2> Unit193: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xca/1.4.1-0ubuntu1
[23:18] <Unit193> Yeah, though with qt5 migrated and openssl1.1 not in -proposed... :P  Yeah that's more why I was going to go the bug route, FFes are usually pretty easy for unseeded.
[23:18] <Unit193> Also yes, but the meetings are at awful times. :/
[23:19] <tsimonq2> Then do it over email.
[23:20] <Unit193> Thanks for the upload, pre-releases aren't great for LTSes!