[03:44] <sethk> MyWay, ifconfig
[03:44] <cmatheson> Malachi: slow
[03:44] <MyWay> ok
[03:44] <Malachi> Meh, besides speed.
[03:44] <sethk> MyWay, in a terminal, run ifconfig.  then copy down the ip address and the netmask
[03:44] <liable> BoukenPink: its python, just unpack and run the .pl
[03:44] <Xtradite> toma: whats the command to extract rpm files?
[03:44] <Xtradite> toma: or actually install them
[03:45] <Malachi> cmatheson, I've learned that if you allocate enough ram it goes fast enough.
[03:45] <BoukenPink> liable, sweet beans~
[03:45] <sethk> MyWay, then do route -n, and copy down the gateway address, which is probably <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:45] <liable> BoukenPink: or read the readme :P
[03:45] <Krontabz> cmatheson, would you happen to know which one... and under what key?
[03:45] <ilba7r> xtradite you should install deb files but alien might be what you are looking fo
[03:45] <ilba7r> r
[03:45] <sethk> MyWay, then set static ip, set those parameters, and set the resolv.conf.  set to static, it won't be reset when you reboot
[03:45] <cmatheson> Malachi: ok, then it's probably fine
[03:45] <Unity> where do i go to make mounted stuff not appear on the gnome desktop?
[03:45] <Toma-> you need to use alien to convert it too deb format, then dpkg -i debfile.deb
[03:45] <cmatheson> Krontabz: hmm, i don't know... i don't use gnome anymore
[03:45] <foampeace> hi
[03:45] <Toma-> brb.
[03:45] <Malachi> But sound and video will be fine?
[03:45] <Krontabz> doh...  hehe
[03:45] <Xtradite> like sudo apt-get limewire?
[03:45] <sethk> MyWay, with only one machine on your local network, you'll always get <IP_ADDRESS> (or .1, or whatever it turns out to be)
[03:46] <Xtradite> i dont see any deb files on limewire's site
[03:46] <foampeace> does anyone know what the package junior-programming is
[03:46] <sethk> MyWay, the gateway might be <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:46] <ludovicus> back
[03:46] <BoukenPink> liable, I was going by the download and install page from its site~
[03:46] <ludovicus> ok, that didn't work
[03:46] <MyWay> sethk wait i don't understand something you said
[03:46] <MyWay> you said: set static IP, how?
[03:46] <sethk> MyWay, ok, but what don't you understand?
[03:46] <ludovicus> i'm attempting to read howto on wlan...
[03:46] <sethk> MyWay, where I told you to look and see if it said static ip or dhcp?  and it says dhcp?
[03:46] <Toma-> Xtradite: i do believe if you google search for "Limewire ubuntu" youll find a nice howto
[03:46] <sethk> MyWay, you change it to say static ip
[03:47] <MyWay> how?
[03:47] <MyWay> oh
[03:47] <MyWay> i remember
[03:47] <MyWay> now
[03:47] <MyWay> on the configure
[03:47] <liable> BoukenPink: oh, it's been a while.. i may well be wrong..
[03:47] <ilba7r> ludovicus you should try first dhcp and use the graphical interface
[03:47] <MyWay> settings
[03:47] <MyWay> yes
[03:47] <sethk> MyWay, it's easier to do than to explain
[03:47] <psusi> can anyone explain to me or point me to where I can read about how external media is automagically mounted in ubuntu?  I'd like to modify it to call it by the volume name instead of cdrom0, and use the packet writing device instead for full read/write support
[03:48] <ilba7r> iwlist wlan0 scan will tell you if the card see your network in a terminal
[03:48] <BoukenPink> liable, Nah, I ran the .py file and it seems to have worked. :D
[03:48] <oneseventeen_> If I "PING -c 3 www.google.com" I get a 100% packet loss, but I'm doing it via SSH from home, so obviously the server has network connectivity
[03:48] <oneseventeen_> how do I get it to ping, wget, and all that good stuff?
[03:48] <MyWay> yes thanks you
[03:48] <ludovicus> i did this
[03:48] <flyingfox> hi, have installed wine on ubuntu breezy, and the win application in the emulated drive c, but need to copy 2 files into the directory of the win app of the emulated drive c in order to get the win app working. problem is i don't know where to locate the emulated drive c. have used 'whereis' but only get the same answer
[03:48] <ludovicus> the graphical interface and it is manually set dhcp
[03:48] <flyingfox> thks
[03:48] <twysted> oneseventeen_ if it cannot resolve the ip then it wont ping
[03:49] <twysted> oneseventeen_ try ping'n <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:49] <liable> BoukenPink: cool ;)
[03:49] <psusi> if it can not resolve the address it won't say 100% loss either
[03:49] <oneseventeen_> twysted it says PING ww.1.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data when I ping google.com
[03:49] <HymnToLife> flyingfox > wine configuration tool is 'winecfg'
[03:49] <twysted> oneseventeen_ we can then see if its a dns or network issue
[03:49] <twysted> ok so dns is working
[03:49] <Toma-> bbl.
[03:49] <flyingfox> i could get the wine config tools
[03:49] <ilba7r> ludovicus perhaps you should register
[03:50] <ilba7r> !register
[03:50] <oneseventeen_> twysted pinging the IP didn't work, so yeah, DNS is fine
[03:50] <ubotu> hmm... register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[03:50] <flyingfox> and the win apps to run
[03:50] <flyingfox> but the problem is the apps is an online apps
[03:50] <oneseventeen_> does the Bcast in ifconfig have anything to do with it?  (as I have not set this)
[03:50] <HymnToLife> flyingfox > what exactly do you want to do ?
[03:50] <flyingfox> that needs to connect to particular server. for this to happen, the administrator told everyone to copy 2 files to the win app directory for it to work
[03:51] <flyingfox> i need to locate the window application inside the wine emulated drive c
[03:51] <twysted> oneseventeen_ you need to set broadcast
[03:51] <HymnToLife> flyingfox > then under the "drives" tab of winecfg, you have the path of all your emulated windows drives
[03:51] <twysted> oneseventeen_ usually <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:51] <flyingfox> for me to copy 2 files into the directory of the win apps
[03:51] <googleguy> flyingfox, ~/.wine/drive_c/
[03:51] <flyingfox> only showing drive c
[03:52] <oneseventeen_> twysted that looks like my netmask or Mask
[03:52] <flyingfox> u mean i need only to type "  ~/.wine/drive_c/
[03:52] <flyingfox> thks
[03:52] <oneseventeen_> twysted should my broadcast be my netmask?
[03:52] <twysted> oneseventeen_ yes
[03:52] <HymnToLife> flyingfox > no, this is the default path of drive c
[03:52] <HymnToLife> then you can browse into it just like on windows
[03:52] <flyingfox> yups
[03:52] <flyingfox> i meant that
[03:53] <flyingfox> thks again everyone
[03:53] <fli7e> Anyone know of a screen saver or program that automatically displays RSS feeds? I've seen something of the nature on a Mac before, but I want one for ubuntu.
[03:53] <flyingfox> 2nd question
[03:53] <flyingfox> i have downloaded win32codecs using apt-gget
[03:53] <durt> fli7e: gdesklets
[03:53] <flyingfox> but only sometimes the wmv files is playable
[03:53] <oneseventeen_> twysted: nope, still won't work.
[03:53] <flyingfox> most of the time, it's only audio only
[03:53] <fli7e> thanks durt
[03:53] <twysted> oneseventeen_ you have to take the interface down and bring it back up
[03:54] <oneseventeen_> twysted is /etc/init.d/networking restart enough?
[03:54] <intelikey> !codecs
[03:54] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:54] <twysted> oneseventeen_ it should be
[03:54] <twysted> oneseventeen_ sometimes no
[03:54] <intelikey> !w32codecs
[03:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:54] <twysted> oneseventeen_ why not use dhcp and let your dhcp server assign a ip?
[03:54] <flyingfox> i have already got it under apt-get
[03:55] <flyingfox> but vlc player and totem can't seem to play wmv
[03:55] <oneseventeen_> twysted this is for a webserver at work that actually has 3 static IP's attached
[03:55] <flyingfox> only audio
[03:55] <twysted> oneseventeen_> ah i see
[03:55] <ilba7r> do you have totem-xine installed
[03:55] <ilba7r> flyingfox
[03:55] <oneseventeen_> twysted and the 2 IP aliases have been removed by ifconfig, so I'm pretty sure the networking restart did its thing
[03:56] <twysted> oneseventeen_> yea
[03:56] <flyingfox> totem came built in with breezy
[03:56] <flyingfox> and i have installed vlc also
[03:56] <ilba7r> flyingfox it is most probably totem-gstreamer
[03:56] <Xtradite> Toma: haha installing Limewire is a chore.  whatever happened to "setup.exe" :)
[03:56] <intelikey> that url on w32codecs returns the document can not be viewed unless you install PSM
[03:56] <ilba7r> install totem-xine instead to work with w32codecs
[03:56] <gn0me> Anyone have any experience with setting up a dual display using nVidia card with a television?
[03:56] <gn0me> I've read a few guides and I can't seem to get it.
[03:57] <flyingfox> u mean apt-get totem-xine?
[03:57] <flyingfox> what is xine?
[03:57] <flyingfox> a codec?
[03:57] <intelikey> !restricted formats
[03:57] <ubotu> methinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:57] <twysted> oneseventeen_> did you see my msg?
[03:57] <flyingfox> thks
[03:57] <flyingfox> thks everyone
[03:58] <twysted> oneseventeen_> http://pastebin.com/478853
[03:58] <intelikey> that url gives the same error can not be viewed without PSM
[03:58] <ilba7r> thanx intelikey
[03:58] <intelikey> restricted formats that is ^
[03:59] <fli7e> durt, coolest looking rss aggravator for gdesklets in your opinion? keep in mind im on a laptop with shared video memory
[03:59] <fli7e> *aggregator
[04:00] <durt> fli7e: i dunno, depends what you like (i dont run gdesklets) ;)
[04:00] <flyingfox> anyone knows of any open source cdrom burner that has multisession capabilites
[04:00] <flyingfox> like Nero
[04:00] <intelikey> so what's the deal on these web pages that can not be viewed without PSM ?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> flyingfox > k3b
[04:00] <twysted> k3b
[04:00] <flyingfox> does it run on gnome?
[04:00] <flyingfox> am using gnome only
[04:00] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:00] <flyingfox> heard that only for kde
[04:01] <intelikey> xcdoroast  k3b  gnome-toaster
[04:01] <HymnToLife> but you will have to download quite a lot of extra libraries
[04:01] <Wilf> what command would i type to make the file /home/j/.dmrc owned by the user j and permissions of 644?
[04:01] <JonasNorman> psusi: are you still here
[04:01] <HymnToLife> or you can try gnomebaker
[04:01] <Wilf> chown j 644 /home/j/.dmrc?
[04:01] <flyingfox> tried gnomebaker
[04:01] <HymnToLife> I dunno if it supports multisession
[04:01] <flyingfox> but it does not have multsisession
[04:02] <HymnToLife> then go for k3b
[04:02] <intelikey> Wilf, sudo chown j:j /home/j/.dmrc ;chmod 644 /home/j/.dmrc
[04:02] <HymnToLife> Wilf > is by any chance your /home partition mounted on a FAT32 drive ?
[04:02] <Wilf> HymnToLife, ext3
[04:03] <HymnToLife> then intelikey has it right :p
[04:03] <durt> if i plug 2 pcmcia wlan cards into my laptop, can i get twice the speed? hehe
[04:03] <HymnToLife> but it's weird you get this, the permissions should be ok by default
[04:03] <oveh> i got a very strange problem, the letters "a" and "e" don't work in the terminal
[04:04] <Wilf> thanks intelikey and HymnToLife!
[04:04] <intelikey> wrong keyboard map for your system oveh
[04:05] <oveh> and how du i change it? :)
[04:05] <oveh> sudo dpkg-?
[04:05] <joh> Anyone into nvidia TwinView? I'm trying to set it up with my LCD as the main monitor and my TV as the secondary. Now, how do I set which monitor should be the *main* one when using TwinView? I've gotten everything to work, but it seems X is using the TV as the main monitor rather than my LCD (GDM login screen appears only on the TV, etc.) Any help appreciated.
[04:05] <salah> Is there any guides on net which tells me the difference between ext2, ext3, ntfs, fat16(32) or other filesystems? I have always been wondering what the differences are
[04:05] <fli7e> durt, thanks, but gdesklets isnt quite what im looking for
[04:06] <HymnToLife> oveh > sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[04:06] <fli7e> interesting to try out though
[04:06] <durt> yeah gdesklets is a resource hog
[04:06] <psusi> JonasNorman, yea...
[04:06] <psusi> salah, basically, or in depth?
[04:07] <Wilf> firefox is terribly unstable....
[04:07] <salah> psusi: basically first :)
[04:07] <HymnToLife> salah > ext2/3 are the main linux FS, NTFS is the Win 200/XP FS and FAT is the DOS/Win 9x
[04:07] <odat> why is playing a DVD on linux such a pain in the ass
[04:07] <Agrajag> it's not ?_?
[04:07] <HymnToLife> odat > because you don not have the right packages installed...
[04:07] <salah> HymnToLife: Yes I knew that too, but a little bit more depth than that
[04:07] <HymnToLife> !dvd
[04:07] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:08] <ilba7r> odat is your play back jerky or is it not working at all
[04:08] <HymnToLife> salah > what exactly do you want to know ?
[04:08] <psusi> salah, fat is rather simple and doesn't store any kind of permissions or anything... ntfs stores NT security descriptors and is a more robust FS and uses a transaction log to keep it from being corrupted if the system crashes/looses power
[04:08] <odat> HymnToLife, not true got all that stuff installed put DMA on for jerkyness but its still terrible
[04:08] <n0dl> how do i get a segmentation fault?
[04:08] <n0dl> im trying to play frozen bubble
[04:08] <Zen> Well great.  I popped in the XP CD to do a repair and it ate linux again. =(
[04:08] <n0dl> and im getting a segmentation falt
[04:09] <amonkey> what's a good channel for hotplug questions?
[04:09] <psusi> salah, ext2 is the old conventional linux filesystem because it works reasonably well, and stores the unix permissions linux needs... ext3 is just ext2 with a transaction journal to protect it from crashes/power loss
[04:09] <HymnToLife> Zen > then you might want to reinstall GRUB
[04:09] <ilba7r> odat you have dma on for both /dev/dvd and your dvd drive right /dev/hdc here
[04:09] <psusi> Zen, why did you ask it to do a repair?
[04:09] <n0dl> what is a segmentation fault?
[04:09] <salah> psusi: so I should use ext3 then?
[04:09] <Zen> HymnToLife, I don't think you understand.  When I say "ate" I mean totally wiped out.
[04:09] <psusi> Zen, and yea.. it probably just "fixed" the mbr, which means grub needs reinstalled
[04:09] <twysted> n0dl> program crash
[04:09] <oveh> HymnToLife: is it ok too choose an iso-8859-1 language as default?
[04:09] <n0dl> aa i c
[04:09] <odat> ilba7r, i put it on everything
[04:09] <n0dl> twysted: how would i fix it?
[04:10] <HymnToLife> Zen > how come ?
[04:10] <psusi> salah, that's the de facto standard filesystem for linux systems... yea...
[04:10] <Zen> I didn't even get far enough to repair.  It didn't detect my existing Windows install so I quit setup to find linux missing entirely.
[04:10] <Zen> but XP working again
[04:10] <twysted> n0dl> whats segfaulting
[04:10] <Unity> what was the command to convert images between various formats, was it `convert` ?
[04:10] <psusi> Zen, define "missing entirely"
[04:10] <HymnToLife> n0dl > run it from a terminal and see if you get any error msg
[04:10] <n0dl> twysted: i dunno
[04:10] <twysted> n0dl> lol where did u see it then
[04:10] <ilba7r> odat dvd runs somthely here after enablind dma might by your vedio card
[04:10] <n0dl> twysted: yeah i do run it in terminal and it says segmentation fault
[04:10] <Zen> psusi, as in the partition is gone
[04:10] <psusi> Zen, I'll bet $5 that it just blew away grub trying to "fix" the MBR...
[04:11] <twysted> n0dl> run WHAT in the terminal
[04:11] <HymnToLife> same here psusi
[04:11] <n0dl> frozen-bubble
[04:11] <psusi> Zen, what makes you say it is gone?  windows doesn't normally see it anyhow... unless you checked in disk manager?
[04:11] <odat> ilba7r, i have a 256mb nvidia graphics card
[04:11] <Zen> psusi, I did check with diskmgmt.msc--the partition is no longer in existance
[04:11] <ilba7r> unity the package is imagemagick
[04:12] <psusi> Zen, outch... the free space still there?
[04:12] <Unity> ilba7r, thx
[04:12] <ilba7r> odat i ment the drivers but that is strange
[04:12] <Zen> psusi, just the 25GB windows partition--rest is unpartitioned and free
[04:12] <psusi> Zen, I once had the windows repair feature replace the boot sector of my ntfs partition with a fat boot sector... I was not pleased... but I managed to fix it with a low level disk editor... heh
[04:12] <intelikey> ooops  sorry to bother yall again i just needed the multiverse line.
[04:12] <HymnToLife> Zen > then maybe you should try some partition recovering tool
[04:12] <intelikey> !repos
[04:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:13] <ilba7r> unity you are right man convert
[04:13] <psusi> Zen, you may be able to recreate the partition with fdisk in linux and mount it fine... providing it gets recreated exactly the same as before..
[04:13] <odat> ilba7r, when attempting to play a dvd it takes forever to get to the menu when it does i have to play around with it to get it to play then the playback is jerky still
[04:14] <Zen> psusi, not sure I understand how--I just create the partition over again and poof the data is still there if I don't format it somehow?
[04:14] <psusi> Zen, bingo
[04:14] <psusi> Zen, most likely the data is still there just fine, it's just windows blew away the partition table...
[04:15] <amonkey> is there anyway to make rm files seekable?
[04:15] <psusi> Zen, so as long as you recreate the partition entry exactly the way it was before... the data should come back
[04:15] <Zen> psusi, sweet
[04:15] <Zen> let me save that
[04:15] <ilba7r> odat all i know is that the howto for nivida driver is to enable 3d. I lost hope in it and do not use them anymore till they are stable (ATI 9600 here)
[04:15] <odat> ilba7r, any idea how to turn off the captions?
[04:16] <Zen> thanks, I'll get on that at a later date
[04:16] <Zen> after some rest
[04:16] <ilba7r> odat am not a dvd guru i run it ocasionally sorry man
[04:17] <foampeace> is there a game that teaches python?
[04:17] <foampeace> im not having any luck
[04:17] <ilba7r> foampeace have you tried diveinto python website
[04:18] <ilba7r> i am learning python right now too
[04:18] <steved> Anyone successfully using an ipod video under breezy?
[04:18] <PoW> Anyone here use their ipod with ubtuntu?
[04:18] <steved> It seems to have serious issues with unmounting (leaving the ipod in limbo)
[04:18] <PoW> ok, i guess so
[04:19] <steved> PoW: I was just asking that. I just got a 30gb ipod for Christmas... doesn't play very nicely.
[04:19] <steved> PoW: What's your status?
[04:19] <PoW> Everything's fine, but I'm just wondering how to unmount it
[04:19] <twysted> are you guys using gtkpod?
[04:19] <PoW> says "Do not disconnect" on the ipod
[04:19] <steved> twysted: Banshee and nautilus
[04:20] <foampeace> ilba7r: ill look again but i need a game to learn
[04:20] <twysted> use gtkpod :)
[04:20] <PoW> unlike windows where it's pretty much always capable of unmounting as long as data isn't being transfered between the two
[04:20] <PoW> So, I was just wondering how I properly unmount my ipod
[04:20] <PoW> I have gtkpod installed aswell
[04:21] <steved> twysted: gtkpod can umount a video ipod without issue?
[04:21] <twysted> it should be able to
[04:21] <twysted> my friend uses it without a problem
[04:21] <durt> pow, eject /dev/sda i think works (i dont really know i just got mine today)
[04:21] <jiangguowei> what does 'nvm' mean?
[04:21] <PoW> nevermind
[04:22] <PoW> Is there an unmount feature/option in gtkpod?
[04:22] <BoukenPink> Can anyone help me with using xmame? :3 Please~
[04:22] <durt> not that ive seen
[04:23] <steved> PoW: I don't see one either.
[04:24] <PoW> ejecting it works
[04:24] <PoW> lol
[04:24] <PoW> as superuser
[04:26] <jiangguowei> what does 'nvm' mean?
[04:26] <PoW> jiangguowei, It means "nevermind".
[04:26] <steved> jiangguowei: 'nevermind'
[04:27] <jiangguowei> PoW,steved:thanks
[04:27] <Wilf> haha, almost like the classic "what's stfu mean?"
[04:28] <cosme> hola, tengo una tarjeta de tv saa7134 e instale con apt-get tvtime, lo malo es que scaneo canales pero simpre me sale pantalla azul en la que me dice "no signal"
[04:28] <Krontabz> durt, I found where to change the splash screen background....
[04:28] <twysted> !es
[04:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:28] <steved> Hmm. It's kind of disappointing that command line eject works and ejecting from nautilus doesn't..
[04:29] <durt> krontabz: where???
[04:29] <Krontabz> was actually really retarded.   Major duh factor.   System > Administration > Login Screen Setup.  Under GTK section... at the bottom.  Background color.
[04:29] <TroyMcClure> i have a problem not related to ubuntu, but i know their are some smart folks in here
[04:29] <Krontabz> check it
[04:29] <Krontabz> hehe
[04:30] <TroyMcClure> or anyone know of a linksys support channel on IRC?
[04:30] <Krontabz> I also just used the wallpaper background of my desktop... so it's started right away.
[04:30] <twysted> TroyMcClure> call linksys they are becoming a tad more compitent as days go by
[04:30] <durt> thanks krontabz (it must really have been bothering you)
[04:30] <Krontabz> thought I'd let ya know... since ya' had the same question I did.
[04:30] <TroyMcClure> well all i really want to know is if the new v5 of the wrt54g will act as a bridge
[04:31] <Krontabz> :-)  np.  yeah it was.
[04:31] <twysted> nope it wont
[04:31] <TroyMcClure> damn
[04:31] <twysted> and they wouldnt tell you
[04:31] <twysted> it doesnt run linux it runs that vx crap
[04:31] <TroyMcClure> i was planning on buying two and setting it up with some of the 3rd party stuff, gues i have to spend money on the GL version :|
[04:32] <twysted> TroyMcClure> yea gl are the only option THOUGh rumor has it sams club has some old ones, all over the country
[04:32] <twysted> TroyMcClure> some v1 and v2
[04:32] <oveh> i still can't get the letters a and e to work in the terminal, any clue?
[04:32] <TroyMcClure> lol, well if i have a chance i may check it out tomorrow (gotta go return presents) but NewEgg's price with the rebate is unbeatable at 40 bucks
[04:33] <twysted> oveh, using a funky keyboard?
[04:33] <oveh> norwegian
[04:33] <TroyMcClure> but i doubt i would get a v4 or earlier from Newegg
[04:33] <twysted> TroyMcClure> $40 isnt bad for the gl series :D
[04:33] <TroyMcClure> 64 for GL 40 for just the G
[04:33] <flyingfox> hi, how do we start totem-xine using console?
[04:33] <flyingfox> thks
[04:33] <durt> "totem"
[04:33] <ilba7r> flyingfox just type totem
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> How can I restart the sound in Gnome?  (Mine seems to not be working this login.)
[04:34] <oveh> twysted: it works by default, but it doesn't work now :(
[04:34] <flyingfox> i can't see any totem-xine in my desktop menu aside from totem
[04:34] <flyingfox> is this the upgraded totem
[04:34] <twysted> oveh, try unplugging your kb and plug it back in
[04:34] <flyingfox> or the old totem
[04:35] <oveh> twysted: its a laptop
[04:35] <twysted> doh
[04:35] <twysted> :D
[04:35] <twysted> reboot? Lol
[04:35] <oveh> hehe ;P
[04:35] <oveh> tried it many times
[04:35] <twysted> bash it
[04:35] <twysted> with a hammer
[04:35] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: has it worked prior?
[04:35] <flyingfox> i did a refresh gnome panel after the totem-xine install
[04:35] <ilba7r> flying fox it is one totem (totem-xine will unistall totem-gstreamer) you can have only one of them
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Yeah, always.
[04:36] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: and if you log out and back into GNOME?
[04:36] <flyingfox> meaning this is the new totem-xine
[04:36] <ilba7r> yap
[04:36] <oveh> is the forum down?
[04:36] <flyingfox> but i did see the about page on totem
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, I think I might have confused it by having the sound card in use with wvdial in tty1 while I was logging in on tty7.
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, I was wondering if I could do it without that, so I wouldn't have to break an IM conversation.
[04:36] <flyingfox> it stated that is is a xine-lib version 1.1
[04:37] <flyingfox> thks
[04:37] <ilba7r> flyingfox try it
[04:37] <flyingfox> it can run wmv
[04:37] <flyingfox> but without audio
[04:37] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[04:37] <Kindred> is firefox 1.5 not going to be in backports? I have read the wiki but seems like hassle..
[04:37] <flyingfox> and it crashes everytime when i tried to change other wmv files
[04:37] <Mez> Kindred - I'll have a look once it's actually in dapper
[04:37] <Unity> how de i make the mounted stuff not appear on the gnome fesktop?
[04:37] <ilba7r> kindred i read that it will not be not for the time being
[04:38] <Mez> I cant do anything till then
[04:38] <TroyMcClure> so, i installed suse for a teacher who wanted to try it out, and after being a deb/ubuntu guy i have decided i hate RPM
[04:38] <Steil> Mez, isn't 1.5 already in dapper?
[04:38] <Mez> but once it is I'll work on it for backports
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Nothing from that.
[04:38] <Mez> Steil, not 1.5 final
[04:38] <Mez> only RC
[04:38] <Steil> ahh
[04:38] <ilba7r> kindred you can always downlad it and run it from your home directory it does not need install. just untar and run it
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Or did you want the output?
[04:38] <Kindred> yeah it just seems like lots of people are having various problems with it
[04:38] <Kindred> and i'd rather avoid any, oh well.
[04:39] <Unity> how do i make mounted filesystems not appear on the gnome desktop?
[04:39] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: only if there's output.
[04:39] <glick> excuse me does anyone here use gtkpod?
[04:39] <ilba7r> kindred i am running it here. just untared it grabbed some plugins and have both firefoxs installed
[04:39] <ilba7r> the diff is not huge though
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, COMMAND    PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> mixer_app 8871 anthony   36u   CHR  116,0      7386 /dev/snd/controlC0
[04:39] <dabaR> Unity: use the Applications>System Tools>Config Editor program. In it, go apps>nautilus>desktop
[04:39] <Steil> Mez, Do you know why Ubuntu distributes it as Deer Park?
[04:40] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: that's fine
[04:40] <Mez> Steil - no clue
[04:40] <Kindred> ilba7r, okay thanks - I just find 1.0.7 really sluggish, it's pretty bad.
[04:40] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: you should still be able to hear sound
[04:40] <glick> damn what the hell
[04:40] <Unity> dabaR, this looks like windows registry...bad memories...
[04:40] <glick> does anyone use gtkpod
[04:40] <glick> ?
[04:40] <dabaR> did anyone answer?
[04:40] <crimsun> Steil: it hasn't been rebranded yet (cosmetics are very low on the priority list)
[04:41] <glick> whenever i unmount my ipod it says unable to mount media
[04:41] <Steil> ahh
[04:41] <Unity> dabaR, thx, it worked
[04:41] <dabaR> Unity: ya, good.
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Check that, it seems to be only a Gaim issue.  I tried a media file and that was fine.
[04:42] <bettong_BOFH> anyone know where i can get the app that does this to your desktop?  http://tinyurl.com/ah6bh
[04:42] <gn0me> I got my dual-display working with nVidia and some "TwinView" option that works perfectly. Now when I run movies in VLC and go fullscreen it goes to the correct display (my television) but it doesn't use the whole window size. Anyone had similar experiences and know how to fix it?
[04:42] <crimsun> gn0me: are you using Breezy?
[04:42] <gn0me> Yeah.
[04:42] <twysted> bettong_BOFH> that looks like enlightenment
[04:42] <twysted> bettong_BOFH> aka e7
[04:42] <flyingfox> hi, how do we start wine from console?
[04:42] <bettong_BOFH> i want it ^^
[04:42] <flyingfox> thks
[04:42] <Mez> crimsun - but mozilla doesnt brand it deer park
[04:42] <cmatheson> flyingfox: wine
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> how do i get it for ubuntu
[04:43] <crimsun> gn0me: ask the backports guys to backport the vlc package from Dapper.
[04:43] <twysted> bettong_BOFH> its alpha and i think you have to build it from source
[04:43] <jgrieves> anyone know how to use a differnet module for a device with hotplug
[04:43] <Mez> crimsun - from dapper?
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> O_o
[04:43] <Mez> oh
[04:43] <Mez> erm
[04:43] <crimsun> Mez: related to the trademark issue.
[04:43] <jgrieves> im trying to find some good docuemtnatnion
[04:43] <Mez> whats from with vlc
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> oh well screw it >.<
[04:43] <Mez> crimsun - trademark issue?
[04:43] <twysted> bettong_BOFH> but i do confirm it works really well :)
[04:43] <gn0me> crimsun: Everything works 100% except that ONE little thing.. it even goes to the right display and stuff, just.. uses about 75% of the screen :P
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> does it
[04:43] <crimsun> Mez: there's a known issue with fullsize with Breezy's vlc. It's fixed in Dapper.
[04:43] <gn0me> Oh.
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> is it worth risking my box for?
[04:44] <TroyMcClure> is the upgrade to dapper worth it?
[04:44] <TroyMcClure> i am still running breezy...
[04:44] <gn0me> crimsun: Would it work if I compiled from source with the newest VLC maybe?
[04:44] <crimsun> Mez: debian-devel list archives for the mozilla-firefox trademark issues
[04:44] <flyingfox> i mean to start wine configuration, thks
[04:44] <twysted> bettong_BOFH> its not a risk if you would like to know more msg me
[04:44] <gn0me> crimsun: Or did they actually tweak some stuff?
[04:44] <crimsun> gn0me: 0.8.4, yes.
[04:44] <Steil> bettong_BOFH, That screenshot looks more like suns 3d desktop technology
[04:44] <Mez> crimsun - link ?
[04:44] <gn0me> crimsun: Okay, I'll try that and get back to you. Thank you very much for your help.  I installed new kernel and then killed old one and the new one wouldn't boot, ok, so I booted installer and used shell and chroot to install older kernel, to get that to boot, and it does boot with it, but it dies soon after loading with "cannot find /dev/hda8" or some such
[04:46] <cmatheson> gn0me: usually you can specify which display you want (e.g. -display :0.1 or :0.0)
[04:47] <psusi> can anyone explain to me or point me to where I can read about how external media is automagically mounted in ubuntu?  I'd like to modify it to call it by the volume name instead of cdrom0, and use the packet writing device instead for full read/write support
[04:47] <twysted> psusi what are you talking about
[04:48] <crimsun> psusi: udev, hal, gnome-volume-manager
[04:48] <psusi> twysted, what part didn't you get?
[04:48] <crimsun> psusi: from the cli, pmount
[04:48] <ilba7r> psusi gnome-volume-manager is the package that automatically mount your external media like cdroms and jump drives
[04:48] <psusi> crimsun, I thought it looked like gnome-volume-manager buisiness, but I can not find any documentation on configuring it... any ideas?
[04:49] <psusi> crimsun, I can manually mount or pmount, but I want it to happen automatically so it doesn't automatically mount it read only, then I unmount, and pmount it right..
[04:49] <crimsun> psusi: gnome-volume-properties(1)
[04:49] <psusi> crimsun, it sounds to me like gnome-volume-manager runs pmount to mount detected media... but I can't figure out how to configure it's behavior
[04:50] <psusi> crimsun, that's a gui tool that doesn't expose nearly enough functionality
[04:50] <JosephSpiros> so yeah I guess my question is... any suggestion as to why it would suck at my /dev/hda8 (my root partition which I pass with root=/dev/hda8)
[04:50] <JosephSpiros> and how to fix that without starting over?
[04:50] <psusi> crimsun, problem is that the drive is /dev/hda... only to write to it you have to bind /dev/pktcdvd/0 to /dev/hda, then mount /dev/pktcdvd/0...
[04:51] <psusi> crimsun, gnome-volume-manager detects /dev/hda and mounts that... and you can't change the device with gnome-volume-properties
[04:51] <crimsun> psusi: then you'll want to ping pitti tomorrow about extending pmount
[04:52] <psusi> crimsun, who is pitti, and why would pmoutn need extended? it seems to me that gnome-volume-manager needs modified to invoke pmount with the right options
[04:52] <psusi> i.e. point it to /dev/pktcdvd/0 instead of /dev/hda
[04:53] <crimsun> psusi: Martin Pitt wrote pmount.
[04:53] <psusi> ahhh
[04:54] <crimsun> psusi: more clearly, you might want to look at how pmount-hal(1) deals with it. There's the -w flag, for instance.
[04:55] <crimsun> psusi: but since pitti knows its guts, he's the guy to ask
[04:55] <synjet> hi I was wondering if somebody could help me address a small issue with samba?a
[04:55] <psusi> crimsun, ok... I assume he will show up here tomorrow as the nick pitti?
[04:55] <brandome> broadcom, dell truemobile 1300 wifi card
[04:55] <brandome> help me install it
[04:55] <brandome> please!
[04:56] <crimsun> psusi: -devel's the better place to ask. The holidays aside, yes, he'll be around in 6ish hours.
[04:56] <brandome> i been trying nisdwrapper
[04:56] <brandome> it worked once, but not recognizing the hardware now
[04:56] <brandome> he will be on here?
[04:56] <psusi> crimsun, ok... will do... thanks...
[04:57] <brandome> im really hurting, stuck using XP until i can get this wireless figured out
[04:59] <occy> if I want to get a list of all the packages on one machine, so I can easily install said packages on another machine, how should I do that?
[04:59] <brandome> can no one help me now?
[04:59] <occy> it'd be nice to be able to do something like dpkg -i mypackages.deb
[04:59] <brandome> i m sorry i cant hlpe you occy
[05:00] <occy> and have it go out and install all the necessary stuff.
[05:00] <occy> brandome: np
[05:00] <occy> hmm
[05:01] <BoukenPink> Mmmm. Doctor Who.
[05:01] <liable> occy: dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections
[05:01] <synjet> Could someone tell me how to change Samba passwd? When I accesss wondows n/w, a pop-up asks for my log-in and pw, for which both my ubuntu user and root fields dont seem to work
[05:01] <occy> liable: hmmm ok.
[05:01] <occy> nifty
[05:01] <brandome> no love for the wireless newbie?
[05:01] <cmatheson> synjet: why would your ubuntu password work on your windoze box?
[05:02] <viscount> OMFG >:E
[05:02] <viscount> scim just wont die
[05:02] <synjet> nope its ubuntu system, but the wireless n/w is windows: MSHOME
[05:02] <Malachi> Serious Problem.
[05:02] <synjet> into which I want to login
[05:02] <Malachi> Firefox won't open.
[05:02] <viscount> what kind of evil bastards would make such an unstopble program
[05:02] <Malachi> Could use some help....
[05:02] <cmatheson> viscount: you've gotta kill the daemon and the taskbar-launcher and all that stuff at the same timje
[05:03] <cmatheson> Malachi: ask your question
[05:03] <Malachi> When I try to open firefox, nothing happens.
[05:03] <Malachi> It loads in the taskbar for about five seconds then disappears.
[05:03] <cmatheson> Malachi: what happens if you launch it from the shell?
[05:03] <Malachi> Nothing.
[05:03] <synjet> cmatheson: I have edited samba conf file, but still.. what should I enter as username and pw?
[05:03] <viscount> cmatheson, i didnt know and I killed them one at at time, now the scim-panel-gtk wont die, well.. it dies but comes back
[05:03] <cmatheson> synjet: whatever you would normally log into your windoze computer
[05:03] <Malachi> It doesn't even *hang*
[05:03] <Malachi> It just goes back to the prompt.
[05:03] <occy> liable: hmmm, no way to get a big giant list and output it to a file or something, and then incorporate said file input?
[05:03] <viscount> cmatheson, and its incompatible with ff-1.5
[05:04] <occy> Malachi: we know each other?
[05:04] <cmatheson> viscount: yeah because you're killing them one at a time... kill the daemon and the panel at the same time or they will respawn eachother
[05:04] <occy> Malachi: I used to go by "OctobrX"
[05:04] <Malachi> We might.
[05:04] <Malachi> I think so...
[05:04] <Malachi> I'm not sure....
[05:04] <liable> occy: yes append pkg.txt to both commands
[05:04] <occy> back in the "themes.org" days
[05:04] <occy> heh
[05:04] <Malachi> occy, how long ago would this have been?
[05:04] <occy> Malachi: 8 years?
[05:05] <occy> liable: ahhh
[05:05] <Malachi> Nope.
[05:05] <occy> Malachi: np ;) must have been another Malachi
[05:05] <occy> heh
[05:05] <occy> err
[05:05] <occy> hehe
[05:05] <brandome> please??
[05:05] <Malachi> I haven't been alive 8 years.
[05:05] <occy> Malachi: hah
[05:05] <brandome> im huritng hera
[05:05] <brandome> here
[05:05] <Malachi> Just kidding.
[05:05] <Malachi> BUT, back to the problem at hand.
[05:05] <cmatheson> viscount: do something like 'ps -e | grep scim' and then 'kill -9 pid1 pid2 ...'
[05:05] <viscount> cmatheson, fewf.. ok their stoped
[05:06] <Malachi> What's wrong with my Firefox???
[05:06] <crimsun> brandome: what's the issue?
[05:06] <cmatheson> viscount: cool, why doesn't it work w/ ff1.5?
[05:06] <viscount> cmatheson, how do I stop it from coming back when I restart the computer?
[05:06] <occy> liable: dpkg --get-selections > pkg.txt
[05:06] <glick> scuse me anyone here use an ipod with ubuntu?
[05:06] <cmatheson> viscount: i would just uninstall it if you're not going to use it... ubuntu automatically sets it up to be a gtk input method... mine doesn't start until i hit ctrl+space though...
[05:06] <occy> liable: and then:  dpkg --set-selections < pkg.txt
[05:06] <occy> ?
[05:06] <liable> occy: no need for the >
[05:07] <brandome> i really want to make the wireless work
[05:07] <occy> liable: had to output to a file
[05:07] <brandome> i waant to do it all on ubuntu
[05:07] <brandome> please help me
[05:07] <liable> occy: err, sorry, that was correct actually..
[05:07] <occy> liable: unless my syntax was wrong
[05:07] <crimsun> brandome: what wireless chipset?
[05:07] <occy> :)
[05:07] <brandome> braodcom unfortunatly
[05:07] <occy> liable: remember, no matter what you say, you are liable.
[05:07] <brandome> i tried ndiswrapper
[05:07] <occy> liable: sorry, couldn't resist.
[05:07] <liable> hah
[05:07] <occy> ;)
[05:08] <israel> anyone know how to deal with the message (from checkinstall): package architecture (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)
[05:08] <occy> hmm
[05:08] <brandome> but it says its the wrong driver, or its inaprpriate or something
[05:08] <wolverian> cmatheson, killall scim? :)
[05:08] <occy> the only thing I'm shakey on is the set-selections usage.
[05:08] <cmatheson> wolverian: no... there is no process named scim
[05:08] <wolverian> ah. sorry.
[05:08] <cmatheson> wolverian: it's cool
[05:08] <wolverian> ps aux | grep scim | xargs kill -9
[05:08] <glick> no one eh?
[05:08] <wolverian> (I know this is too late and all, but just for the fun)
[05:09] <viscount> cmatheson, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion says scim 1.0.2 crashes firefox, and it does, well.. I need scim for one user on this computer, it only needs to work for that persont the rest dont need it or want it
[05:09] <crimsun> viscount: backport 1.4.2 from Dapper
[05:09] <viscount> now my firefox-1.5 segfaults
[05:09] <glick> how do i sync my ipod?
[05:09] <viscount> even though scim isnt running
[05:10] <cmatheson> wolverian: hmm, i think that wouldn't work because you get all those extra columns (run-time, parms, memory, etc... you'd have to do a custom ps so that it only displayed the pid column or something.. but then you wouldn't be able to grep it
[05:10] <wolverian> cmatheson, true enough. that's why you use pgrep :)
[05:10] <viscount> use 1.4.2 instead of 1.5? thats a joke right
[05:10] <crimsun> brandome: I need the precise text of your input and what is returned
[05:11] <crimsun> viscount: scim 1.4.2
[05:11] <wolverian> cmatheson, (as in, pgrep scim | xargs kill -9)
[05:11] <brandome> ok, no problem, just a sec
[05:11] <cmatheson> viscount: ok... i'm not sure how exactly to disable for normal people, i use custom scim packages from the ubuntu@tw people which i think are a bit better.  anyway, there should be some file you can edit to stop it from being an input method in X, and then the other person that needs it can just add it in his .xsession or something
[05:11] <cmatheson> wolverian: oh good call, i didn't know about pgrep
[05:11] <occy> crimsun: howdy, you know how to do the set-selections and get-selections stuff?  I was able to do:  dpkg --get-selections > pkg.txt
[05:11] <wolverian> cmatheson, I tend to forget it too. :)
[05:11] <occy> crimsun: do I do this in reverse:  dpkg --set-selections < pkg.txt
[05:11] <occy> ?
[05:12] <cmatheson> wolverian: :)
[05:12] <chrisu> Good evening Ubunteros !!
[05:12] <viscount> I really wish I never even heard of scim, now firefox is segfaulting even though scim isnt running
[05:12] <crimsun> occy: it's read from stdin. cat and pipe.
[05:12] <Mez> viscount - I'll have a look at scim now :D
[05:12] <feria> anyone has experience debugging gnome applications?  i have this problem with ldc++        http://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=5968&group_id=2230   any reccomendations :(
[05:12] <Mez> wanna mail the list and then I'll put a request through
[05:12] <occy> crimsun: for the non-programmer that means?
[05:12] <occy> crimsun: :)
[05:13] <cmatheson> viscount: yeah, there was some discussion a ways back on the list about the buggy implementation in breezy
[05:13] <crimsun> occy: cat foo|dpkg [..]
[05:13] <chrisu> I ahve a question
[05:13] <occy> crimsun: ahhhh
[05:13] <occy> danke
[05:13] <Mez> cmatheson, on which liste ?
[05:13] <glick> whooop i b0rked my ipod!
[05:13] <chrisu> How Can I do edit /etc/fstab using the Live CD ?
[05:13] <cmatheson> Mez: ubuntu-user i think... although i'm on a bunch of them so i'm not positive.. it could have been devel or i18n
[05:14] <viscount> Mez, I dont have any specific information, no real data, but i can say basically what happened
[05:14] <occy> hmm
[05:14] <crimsun> ming hua has pushed the fixed scim packages for Dapper.
[05:14] <brandome> well what text output would you like a response to
[05:14] <viscount> i dont know if that will help or not
[05:14] <Mez> no visount- I mean email the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>asking for scim to be backported, and why :D
[05:14] <gn0me> crimsun: dangit.. I had VLC outputting to my TV (and filling the full screen) and then I undid the fullscreen and tried again and it uses 80% of the window all over again.
[05:14] <occy> cat pkg.txt | dpkg --set-selections && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade didn't do anything
[05:14] <crimsun> brandome: all of it. Everything you typed, and everything in return. On pastebin.
[05:14] <cmatheson> well guys, i'm out.  party on
[05:15] <brandome> i have ndiswrapper-utils installed, and bcmwl5,
[05:15] <chrisu> guys. How can I edit /etc/fstab using the Ubuntu Live CD?
[05:15] <viscount> Mez, do i need to join the list or can I send directly to ubuntu-backports?
[05:15] <brandome> crap all of a sudden it says harware present
[05:15] <liable> occy: copy the file over to the other box; dpkg --set-selections < pkg.txt; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade
[05:15] <brandome> what should i use to manage my networks?
[05:15] <Mez> visoucnt- preferably join so I dont have to go and click buttons to allow it in :D
[05:15] <occy> liable: ok
[05:15] <Mez> visount - uness you have an @ubuntu.com email ? :P
[05:16] <viscount> Mez i can forge one :)
[05:16] <occy> liable: wow, it's working
[05:16] <occy> :)
[05:16] <Mez> visoucnt - no point
[05:16] <Mez> just join or whatever you want
[05:16] <Mez> if it'sa legit email it gets throguh eventually :D
[05:17] <occy> liable: when it's done, I should be able to do: dpkg --get-selections | wc  on both boxes and they should have the exact same info right?
[05:17] <glick> any linux ipod users?
[05:17] <viscount> Mez yeah I will, thanks for the info, but I still dont know how Im going to disable scim, i dont see an .xsession anywhere
[05:17] <pestilence> glick: yes, they exist.
[05:17] <liable> occy: yes
[05:17] <glick> pestilence, no i mean using an ipod with ubuntu
[05:17] <occy> k
[05:17] <Mez> visount - just use the new scim - I believe that doesnt crash
[05:17] <occy> liable: thank you very much
[05:17] <glick> im having some trouble
[05:18] <pestilence> glick: that too
[05:18] <Mez> you can test it :D
[05:18] <occy> liable: do you have a personal site, or a blog?
[05:18] <occy> liable: something I can link to?
[05:18] <occy> :)
[05:18] <glick> it seems like when i plug it in it automounts
[05:18] <glick> the files are on there
[05:18] <liable> occy: heh, nah. :)
[05:18] <glick> but on the ipod itself no songs show up
[05:18] <occy> liable: I post this stuff on my tips and tricks on occy.net and like to give credit.
[05:18] <glick> also i cant unmount it
[05:18] <glick> i right click it
[05:18] <occy> liable: okies.  tx just the same.
[05:18] <pestilence> glick: i think the ipod has a database that must be updated appropriately
[05:18] <liable> np
[05:18] <glick> the ipod icon disappers off the desktop
[05:18] <pestilence> glick: you have to use the correct software
[05:18] <glick> but then it says unable to unmount
[05:19] <glick> pestilence, im using gtkpod
[05:19] <crimsun> occy: you know about debian-administration.org, correct?
[05:19] <askadefull> I'm having trouble with the partitions when putting ubuntu on an old windows comp
[05:19] <sophie__> glick: use amarok (kde) integration of ipod is well done
[05:19] <glick> sophie__, so i have to run kde?
[05:19] <sophie__> glick: nope
[05:20] <pestilence> i would also suggest running the newer versions of amarok... see the kubuntu website
[05:20] <viscount> any firefox guru's know how to uncrashificate my poor firefox install.. its all that nasty scims fault ./run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 11129 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[05:20] <Sly> anyone have problems installing ubuntu on amd xp 2800?
[05:20] <crimsun> brandome: any tool you wish. wifi-radar, network-manager, ...
[05:20] <fli7e> anyone know of any screen savers that display rss feeds? gdesklets was already suggested, but isnt a screen saver
[05:20] <Steil> oh wow
[05:20] <Sly> kernel panics and wont continue
[05:20] <Steil> amarok can write to ipods?
[05:20] <mae> djbdns or bind9 , that is the question...
[05:20] <viscount> fli7e, that would be pretty cool
[05:20] <sophie__> Steil: yep it updates the db
[05:20] <fli7e> ive seen it on a mac
[05:21] <crimsun> mae: the former requires djbdns-installer from Debian. It's not in Ubuntu.
[05:21] <viscount> fli7e, i know you can use a screensaver as your desktop wallpaper, but a screensaver rss aggragator is something i havent heard of
[05:21] <askadefull> Ubuntu has a problem after it starts the partioner, it doesn't do anything can anyone help?
[05:22] <fli7e> viscount, thanks... i will keep googling and get back to you guys
[05:22] <viscount> fli7e, i believe there is one that will cat a text file, you could just append rss data to a file then point the screensaver at that, but no fancy gimics or anything
[05:22] <occy> crimsun: what's this?
[05:22] <occy> crimsun: I'll check it out.
[05:22] <occy> crimsun: tx ;)
[05:22] <fli7e> that would be an option, but i want something that also actually saves my screen.
[05:22] <fli7e> lol
[05:22] <pc22> how do i play midi in ubuntu?
[05:23] <crimsun> pc22: read the midi pages on alsa.opensrc.org
[05:23] <fli7e> even though it is a laptop and therefore not subject to phosphor burns
[05:24] <viscount> if anyone knows howto disable scim by default I would like to know
[05:24] <rjordan> anyone here have ubuntu running with a mobile ati 4xx graphics chip?
[05:25] <FliesLikeALap> askadefull,  you're talking about at install-time
[05:25] <glick> amarok fails to start up for some nice reason
[05:25] <FliesLikeALap> ?
[05:25] <Colin32> hey ive got troubles with ubuntu on my HP laptop anyone can help?
[05:25] <pestilence> glick: perhaps you need the engines too
[05:25] <misfit_toy> glick "ps -ef|grep amarok" and see if it's already running and needs to be killed
[05:25] <pestilence> glick: the xine engine is what you want.
[05:25] <rjordan> I can't seem to get X to start...
[05:26] <occy> http://occy.net/ <-- added them. ;)  (top right)
[05:26] <occy> tx again guys
[05:28] <Mez> scim approved :D
[05:28] <occy> cool
[05:28] <occy> liable, crimsun thanks again, headeed off to bed. :)
[05:28] <occy> peace
[05:28] <chrisu> How can I edit /etc/fstab ?
[05:29] <liable> chrisu: with an editor?
[05:29] <liable> :)
[05:29] <twysted> nano
[05:29] <twysted> :D
[05:29] <chrisu> well, with anything, liable :)
[05:29] <twysted> or gedit
[05:29] <twysted> or vi
[05:29] <_maydayjay_> chrisu - sudo vi /etc/fstab
[05:29] <chrisu> I am running the Ubuntu Live CD
[05:29] <rjordan> so yeah does anyone have an ati card working at all?
[05:29] <twysted> chrisu sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:29] <liable> chrisu: then you need to mount the disk, and then edit it..
[05:30] <chrisu> how do I mount it ?
[05:31] <phreak97> rjordan,  arent there ati drivers in synaptic?
[05:31] <chrisu> my linux partition is in /dev/hda4  [ext3]
[05:31] <liable> i am not sure how the ubuntu cd treats disks, so i will leave to those that do. look for /dev/hda if its your first ide drive, if not look in /dev/ide, which one do you see?
[05:32] <chrisu> I see hda
[05:33] <liable> chrisu: this is a graphical environment you are in now?
[05:33] <DoctaBu> Hello!
[05:33] <DoctaBu> This may seem like an entirely newbieish question (well, it is) but how could I mount a hard drive to ubuntu using the live CD?
[05:33] <chrisu> umm? Well, I see that my Linux partition is in /dev/hda4 using gparted
[05:34] <erosgol> hey guys i was wondering how i go about switching from gnome to kde
[05:34] <tewk> just did a upgrade and got svn: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/librt.so.1: symbol __pthread_clock_settime, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libpthread.so.0 with link time reference
[05:34] <Malach1> GAH! Stupid wireless..
[05:34] <rjordan> phreak, I'm checking.
[05:34] <Malach1> Didn't mean to leave.
[05:34] <phreak97> i think there are
[05:34] <chrisu> Doctabu has the same question as me ;)
[05:35] <liable> chrisu: mkdir /rescue; mount /dev/hda4 /rescue; vim /rescue/etc/fstab
[05:35] <Malach1> Anyway, if anyone has some tips for me getting Firefox back up and running, I'd appreciate it (before my wireless goes out again)
[05:35] <heidi> hey guys, Men seem to know this stuff, I am new to ubuntu/linux and I have a bin/cue file I need to extract into an ISO? any idea with ubuntu?
[05:35] <rjordan> phreak97, I'm in CLI though and therefore don't have synaptic. at least I have aptitude though :)
[05:35] <chrisu> liable: all of it mkdir /rescue; mount /dev/hda4 /rescue; vim /rescue/etc/fstab  IN ONE LINE ?
[05:35] <pestilence> Malach1: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-broken
[05:35] <crimsun> heidi: install bchunk
[05:35] <chrisu> ahh no
[05:36] <Wilf> any adobe audition closes for 'nix?
[05:36] <heidi> crimsun, Is there a way to do it with rar or some cli app?
[05:36] <phreak97> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[05:36] <phreak97> rjordan,
[05:36] <Wilf> clones even
[05:36] <phreak97> thats for you
[05:36] <chrisu> ok, let me try it Liable :)
[05:36] <crimsun> heidi: bchunk is the package that will create an iso from the bin/cue
[05:36] <DoctaBu> Anybody?
[05:36] <DoctaBu> How do I mount my hard drive in ubuntu live?
[05:36] <phreak97> hmm.. i forget what cli is...
[05:36] <heidi> crimsun, is it CLI or Gui?
[05:36] <Malach1> Thanks.
[05:36] <crimsun> heidi: cli
[05:36] <Malach1> What'll it do?
[05:36] <crimsun> heidi: alternately, you can use (cli) cdrdao
[05:37] <phreak97> rjordan, are you using ubuntu?
[05:37] <heidi> crimsun, what is the syntax for the app?
[05:37] <pestilence> DoctaBu: mkdir myharddrive && sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever myharddrive
[05:37] <rjordan> phreak97, I don't have Xorg burrently but thanks for the link
[05:37] <crimsun> heidi: I don't have the package installed, so I don't know offhand. Execute it with --help, or see the man page.
[05:37] <DoctaBu> pestilence: how do I know what my harddrive's name is for "hdwhatever," etc.
[05:37] <pestilence> well
[05:37] <pestilence> is it on the IDE bus?
[05:37] <rjordan> Command Line Interface that is.
[05:37] <phreak97> i want to make xchat so when i double click a name it opens a new dialogue window to that person
[05:38] <DoctaBu> Yes, it is.
[05:38] <pestilence> is it the master?
[05:38] <DoctaBu> Yes.
[05:38] <pestilence> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[05:38] <phreak97> rj, youre probably going to have a fun time working things then:P
[05:38] <DoctaBu> found it.
[05:38] <DoctaBu> so /dev/hda?
[05:38] <pestilence> no
[05:38] <phreak97> whats the command to open a new diologe window to someone?
[05:38] <phreak97> gue*
[05:38] <pestilence> it will be a number
[05:39] <rjordan> pheak97, at least I have this freebsd system and my ubuntu laptop next to me
[05:39] <heidi> crimsun, bchunk blah.bin blah.cue blah creates a blah.iso
[05:39] <pestilence> i.e. /dev/hda1
[05:39] <phreak97> dia*
[05:39] <DoctaBu> hmmm
[05:39] <vbgunz> ji
[05:39] <DoctaBu> it seems to have read it.
[05:39] <digirat> where is the file that you put startup things in?
[05:39] <chrisu> Liable
[05:39] <crimsun> heidi: sounds reasonable
[05:39] <chrisu> liable: check this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6180
[05:39] <pestilence> DoctaBu: fdisk should tell you what partitions you have.
[05:39] <Dreamglider> how do i install a deb package ?
[05:39] <manny> hello all
[05:40] <crimsun> Dreamglider: in a Terminal, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:40] <DoctaBu> pestilence: Ah. I tried /dev/hda1, and I got four partitions... one much larger than the others.
[05:40] <Dreamglider> crimsun thanks mate
[05:40] <pestilence> DoctaBu: /dev/hda1 is a partition.  perhaps you meant /dev/hda
[05:40] <DoctaBu> It being "/dev/hdalp4"
[05:40] <DoctaBu> oh
[05:40] <DoctaBu> ummm.
[05:40] <DoctaBu> oh, now it's different.
[05:41] <DoctaBu> There is only one... /dev/hda1.
[05:41] <freebird`> why wasn't I prompted to set a root password during installation?
[05:41] <pestilence> freebird`: ubuntu uses sudo
[05:41] <pestilence> freebird`: root password is set to unguessable
[05:41] <askadefull> Does anyone know why ubuntu stops installing on my Windows machine after the partitioner starts?
[05:42] <liable> chrisu: so if i understand you right, just change the hda3 to hda4 etc..
[05:42] <digirat> where can i find the startup file that runs things once ubuntu starts?
[05:42] <Dreamglider> anyone using ubuntu and fluxbox ?
[05:42] <chrisu> liable: DO I have to change mount point and others ?
[05:42] <DoctaBu> pestilence: I seem to have mounted /dev/hda1, however, it's telling me I don't have permission to access it. If it helps, this is on a windows PC. We had a problem with spyware and whatnot, so I'm trying to save all of the pictures stored on it.
[05:43] <SpudDogg> can anyone help me get apache working?
[05:43] <pestilence> DoctaBu: easiest fix -- sudo -s
[05:43] <pestilence> DoctaBu: then you can do whatever you want.
[05:43] <DoctaBu> ok
[05:43] <DoctaBu> YES ultimate power.
[05:43] <DoctaBu> Only ubuntu  can give me this feeling.
[05:43] <liable> chrisu: your / is currently on hda3 which is an extended partition, you want it on hda4
[05:43] <chrisu> Liable.. I can't seem to edit it.
[05:43] <digirat> spuddogg: try #apache
[05:43] <heidi> merry christmas guys
[05:44] <SpudDogg> digirat: isnt apache included in ubuntu?
[05:44] <pestilence> SpudDogg: doesn't it pretty much just work?
[05:44] <chrisu> I can erase with backspace, but cannot add anything.
[05:44] <ChimaeraX> hello everyone.  I have the frequent system freezes during high i/o times.  Anyone know of a fix for this?
[05:44] <askadefull> 	Does anyone know why ubuntu stops installing on my Windows machine after the partitioner starts?
[05:45] <liable> chrisu: you need to press 'i'
[05:45] <SpudDogg> pestilence, i dont know...i cant even figure out how to open it
[05:45] <chrisu> ohh !
[05:45] <pestilence> SpudDogg: /etc/init.d/apache start
[05:45] <liable> then when finished hit esc, the ctrl + ZZ
[05:45] <chrisu> Thank liable :)
[05:45] <chrisu> what dooes "i" mean ?
[05:45] <digirat> can anyone tell me where i can find the startup file that runs things once ubuntu starts?
[05:45] <pestilence> SpudDogg: but most likely it's already running if you installed it.
[05:45] <liable> chrisu: err shift zz
[05:45] <DoctaBu> pestilence: how can I open up the mount I made in ubuntu with authentication?
[05:45] <mac> how do I get to reconfigure my network card setup in Ubuntu?  I skipped over the step in the install since I didn't have the network cable connected...
[05:45] <liable> chrisu: the i key...
[05:45] <pestilence> freebird`: it's unguessable, not "unguessable", meaning you'd never guess it.
[05:45] <encompass> what are groups in gnome?
[05:45] <SpudDogg> pestilence, do you know of a way to check that? see if its running?
[05:46] <pestilence> SpudDogg: ps aux |grep apache
[05:46] <encompass> like how it can show me different groups with the lights of the keyboard
[05:46] <pestilence> DoctaBu: i'm not sure i understand.
[05:46] <askadefull> Does anyone know why ubuntu stops installing on my old windows machine after the partitioner starts?
[05:46] <chrisu> yeah, putting i worked. but I was curios abotu what "i" meant.  like app is application...
[05:46] <chrisu> well, that's off-topic :D
[05:46] <DoctaBu> Pestilence: Ok. I want to open up the folder "myharddrive" now through the visual interface as opposed to using the terminal. However, it's telling me I don't have access.
[05:46] <liable> insert
[05:47] <encompass> digirat: there are many files that run when Linux is loading, what are you wanting to do?
[05:47] <ChimaeraX> anyone else have a problem with frequent system freezing?
[05:47] <chrisu> ahhh
[05:47] <pestilence> DoctaBu: oh.
[05:47] <chrisu> ok. :) learning new things each day ;)
[05:47] <digirat> encompass: trying to put proftpd server to start when ubuntu starts
[05:47] <pestilence> DoctaBu: remount it, but this time try tacking on -o uid=1000,gid=100
[05:47] <encompass> if you install proftpd it should just start
[05:47] <DoctaBu> Just doing mount again?
[05:47] <digirat> it doesn't
[05:47] <viscount_> well I now know two ways to instantly hardlock my system as a regular user
[05:47] <pestilence> DoctaBu: yea, unmount and then remount
[05:48] <DoctaBu> pestilence: do I need to unmount it... ok. How do I do that? :/
[05:48] <ChimaeraX> it seems to only occur during high i/o times but having to continually cold boot is getting frustrating
[05:48] <pestilence> DoctaBu: the command is umount :)
[05:48] <DoctaBu> pestilence: got it.
[05:48] <encompass> otherwisw if you are having a problem with it starting look to see if it is started in System administration services
[05:48] <DoctaBu> pestilence: /umount /dev/hda1?
[05:48] <pestilence> DoctaBu: umount myharddrive
[05:48] <tyler_> Question: Is it possible to change the size of icons on my desktop?
[05:49] <DoctaBu> pestilence: tried it
[05:49] <encompass> digirat: and last if it is not there.... I think it is in inittab
[05:49] <ChimaeraX> not a linux noob here.  I believe the issue has something to do with my ata drivers but does anyone know of a fix?
[05:49] <chrisu> liable
[05:49] <liable> chrisu:
[05:49] <DoctaBu> pestilence: DOY.
[05:49] <encompass> I would google proftpd that is much better then looking here for an answer
[05:49] <pestilence> DoctaBu: ?
[05:49] <chrisu> liable: when I'm done. Do I ahve to do soemthing? or do I only need to close the terminal ?
[05:49] <DoctaBu> pestilence: (I was being stupid)
[05:49] <encompass> tyler_: yes,
[05:49] <pestilence> heh
[05:50] <liable> chrisu: after editing?
[05:50] <chrisu> yep
[05:50] <encompass> tyle rigth click on the icon and select stretch icon
[05:50] <tyler_> encompass, how do i do that?
[05:50] <tyler_> oh.
[05:50] <liable> chrisu: press esc, then shift + zz
[05:50] <chrisu> ok :)
[05:50] <encompass> tyler_: did it work?
[05:50] <liable> then i spose you should umount it.
[05:50] <Wilf> can you install rpm's?
[05:50] <tyler_> encompass, so i need to do it to each icon individually, theres no way to just "make all icons _blank_ size"?
[05:51] <pestilence> Wilf: yes, using alien, but it can be a pain.
[05:51] <encompass> oops
[05:51] <chrisu> Thank you so much Liable !!
[05:51] <ChimaeraX> fc4 runs fine on this system, so I believe something that is in 2.6.15 and not in 2.6.12 fixes the issue.  Anyone know of a fix for system freezing?
[05:51] <chrisu> Love ya !!
[05:51] <Wilf> hmm...
[05:51] <encompass> tyler_: did it work?
[05:51] <DoctaBu> pestilence: you are truly amazing. One last thing- what about other (secondary) drives?
[05:51] <tyler_> encompass, yes, it works, but is there no way to make all of the ones on my desktop a certain size by default?
[05:51] <crimsun> ChimaeraX: can you confirm with a Flight 2 live cd?
[05:51] <pestilence> DoctaBu: the primary slave is /dev/hdb, secondary master is /dev/hdc, etc
[05:51] <pestilence> DoctaBu: rinse and repeat.
[05:51] <encompass> tyler... I would select the zoom level then
[05:52] <encompass> open a file browser
[05:52] <digirat> encompass: proftpd is not in services. where do i find the inittab?
[05:52] <encompass> tyler places homefolder
[05:52] <encompass> etc/inittab
[05:52] <encompass> but like I said, google that
[05:52] <Dreamglider> gnome on a amd k6 500mhz with 64mb ram is slow as h*ll
[05:52] <encompass> there is more to it then what you think
[05:52] <encompass> tyler_: now ...
[05:53] <encompass> tyler_: edit preferences
[05:53] <pestilence> Dreamglider: did you try xfce4?
[05:53] <Dreamglider> pestilence no
[05:53] <encompass> I con default zoom levels
[05:53] <pestilence> Dreamglider: give it a shot.  it's not too bad.
[05:53] <encompass> tyler_: did you find it?
[05:54] <Dreamglider> i only used gnome, and kde a litle
[05:54] <drcode> any one know how I can use vnc  in xfce , on the same scree that I use?
[05:54] <encompass> Dreamglider: I know how you feel
[05:55] <encompass> tyler_: ?? anything
[05:55] <tyler_> encompass, yeah, sorry
[05:55] <encompass> tyler_: is it what you wanted?
[05:55] <tyler_> encompass, where do i edit prefrences
[05:55] <encompass> in the homefolder you opened
[05:56] <encompass> there is file... and next to file is edit
[05:56] <encompass> click on edit then at the bottom is preferences
[05:56] <DoctaBu> pestilence: Hmmm. It's telling me I must specify the filesystem type...
[05:56] <pestilence> DoctaBu: ok, what kind is it?
[05:57] <encompass> can anyone tell me what this groups thing is in gnome?
[05:57] <DoctaBu> pestilence: I believe NTFS.
[05:57] <DoctaBu> pestilence: And how do I rid of myharddrive2 (that I just made?)
[05:57] <pestilence> DoctaBu: hmm... well, mount -t ntfs ...
[05:58] <pestilence> DoctaBu: if it is umounted, you can rm -rf myharddrive2....but i would make sure it's umounted...
[05:58] <pestilence> DoctaBu: mount by itself shows you what is mounted
[05:58] <encompass> tyler_: ??
[05:58] <DoctaBu> pestilence: Well hdb or hdb1 aren't working
[05:58] <ChimaeraX> well, thanks Crimsun.  I tried to update to the vanilla kernel 2.6.14, but of course my system freezes when I compile it.  I use redhat all day at work, was hoping to play around with this distro for a bit, but all the system freezes are frustrating
[05:58] <Dreamglider> pestilence do you use xfce4 on ubuntu ?
[05:58] <twysted> encompass> its your user groups so u can see whos in what group, kinda like the users/power user/administrator in windows
[05:59] <pestilence> Dreamglider: yup.
[05:59] <crimsun> ChimaeraX: have you tried testing the Dapper Flight 2 live cd, though?
[05:59] <Dreamglider> how do i install it in terminal ?
[05:59] <encompass> twysted: so what is with the options on your scroll lock and other lock lights then?
[06:00] <pestilence> Dreamglider: sudo aptitude install xfce4
[06:00] <ChimaeraX> crimsun:  no not the dapper live cd.  Just breezy
[06:00] <encompass> tyler_: ?? need some feed back
[06:00] <brenner> wouldn't xubuntu-desktop be the recommended package?
[06:00] <tyler_> encompass, i got it, thank you
[06:00] <DoctaBu> pestilence: Ok. The other myharddrive's are gone, but now I'm unable to find the other harddrive
[06:00] <chrisu> I'm back
[06:01] <DoctaBu> pestilence: The second one is the secondary master
[06:01] <chrisu> Liable
[06:01] <twysted> brenner> xubuntu-desktop is recommended
[06:01] <chrisu> :( I need thy help.
[06:01] <pestilence> DoctaBu: should be /dev/hdc ...
[06:01] <pestilence> DoctaBu: what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc tell you
[06:01] <chrisu> I got the classical Error 17
[06:01] <encompass> tyler_: great good
[06:02] <DoctaBu> pestilence: Ok. everything is mounted beautifully.
[06:02] <Ophiocus> where can i find a good link for wine how to?
[06:02] <Dreamglider> pestilence: sudo aptitude install xfce4 only remowed fluxbox !
[06:02] <pestilence> DoctaBu: good
[06:02] <ChimaeraX> crimsun:  I will check out the dapper Flight 2 live cd and see what happens.
[06:02] <pestilence> Dreamglider: strange...i don't think there is a conflict there.
[06:03] <pestilence> Dreamglider: dpkg -l xfce4* shows it's installed?
[06:03] <Dreamglider> pestilence hang on, ill have to start gnome (could take a minute or two)
[06:04] <heidi> Andrew, I bet any guy here would want a blow job for a birthday gift, my bf is no exception
[06:05] <pestilence> heidi: do you need help mounting your hard drive too?
[06:05] <hypernewbie> lol
[06:05] <heidi> pestilence, hehe
[06:08] <mae> what do you guys think about powerdns?
[06:08] <Dreamglider> pestilence: no packages found matching xfce
[06:08] <Fixion> does anyone know why sound would not work for a user, and work for admin?
[06:08] <pestilence> Dreamglider: xfce4
[06:08] <pestilence> Fixion: they are not in the audio group
[06:08] <Dreamglider> xfce4
[06:08] <Dreamglider> sorry
[06:08] <Fixion> if I add a user to the audio group, gnome hangs at login
[06:08] <Fixion> ^when that user logs in
[06:08] <pestilence> Fixion: sudo vim /etc/group
[06:09] <pestilence> Fixion: hmm
[06:09] <glick> how can i restore an ipod?
[06:09] <glick> what the hell
[06:09] <crimsun> Fixion: where in the login sequence does it hang?
[06:09] <Fixion> and when I do add a user to the group (after gnome starts), xmms can't find the pcm device, or the soundcard... nothing
[06:10] <Fixion> or the mixer...
[06:10] <rjordan> phreak97 thanks, I'm on my desktop looking at gnome thanks to you.,
[06:10] <Fixion> crimsun: a blank screen with the background color...
[06:10] <crimsun> Fixion: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:10] <Fixion> crimsun: ... and a cursor
[06:10] <Fixion> crimsun: 0 [CS46xx         ] : CS46xx - Sound Fusion CS46xx Sound Fusion CS46xx at 0x50100000/0x50000000, irq 10
[06:11] <crimsun> Fixion: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' work?
[06:11] <Fixion> right now its working (because I started xmms as root)
[06:11] <Fixion> but not for any users
[06:11] <glick> does anyone know how to restore an ipod?
[06:11] <twysted> glick
[06:11] <youngcoder> heya
[06:12] <twysted> hook it up to a pc
[06:12] <Fixion> crimsun: as a user... no
[06:12] <twysted> with itunes
[06:12] <pwn3r> hi :)
[06:12] <Fixion> auido open error: permission denied (after some cryptic errors)
[06:12] <crimsun> Fixion: which output plugin is xmms using?
[06:12] <Fixion> alsa
[06:12] <glick> twysted, and then
[06:12] <Fixion> crimsun: or it's supposed to be, I'm using alsa as root and it works
[06:13] <pestilence> Fixion: what does "groups" return
[06:13] <twysted> glick and itll give you the option to fix your ipod
[06:13] <Fixion> as what user?
[06:13] <crimsun> Fixion: have you created your own /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?
[06:13] <pestilence> yes
[06:13] <Mabus06> How does a  RADEON 9800XT work with ubuntu? and is it a good deal at 140 US?
[06:13] <Ophiocus> maybe the group audio has too many restrictions for a user from it to boot properly?
[06:13] <Fixion> crimsun: no...
[06:13] <twysted> mabus06 itll work if u can get the ati drivers setup
[06:13] <Fixion> crimsun: I don't think they exist
[06:14] <twysted> mabus06 decent card as well :)
[06:14] <Mabus06> twysted, a good deal or not?
[06:14] <twysted> mabus06 good deal if it has at least 256mb of ram
[06:14] <Mabus06> twysted, if you had to make another reccomendation what would it be (yes, it has 256MB)
[06:14] <twysted> mabus06 nvidia geforce 6600
[06:15] <youngcoder> Mabus06, i always go with nvidia
[06:15] <twysted> mabus06 perferrably the pny brand, it plays like sex
[06:15] <Dreamglider> i have a RADEON 9800 pro here, it works fine
[06:15] <glick> twysted, where does it give you that option
[06:15] <twysted> mabus06 and installing it in any linux is easy
[06:15] <crimsun> Fixion: please confirm that they don't exist
[06:15] <trans_err> I plug in my ipod and it appears on my desktop, where is it mounted to?
[06:15] <twysted> glick Read your damn ipod manual
[06:15] <twysted> glick this isnt ipod support
[06:15] <pwn3r> installing java from the wiki; "Couldn't find package java-package
[06:15] <pwn3r> "?
[06:15] <Shadyman> rofl
[06:15] <pestilence> trans_err: /media/something
[06:16] <Fixion> crimsun: they don't
[06:16] <pestilence> trans_err: maybe /media/ipod
[06:16] <trans_err> I know its supposed to be /media/something, but I don't have a /media
[06:16] <pestilence> trans_err: type "mount"
[06:16] <Fixion> crimsun: locate couldn't find them, and I could find either myself
[06:16] <crimsun> Fixion: ok, pastebin the output from ``ls -l /dev/dsp* /dev/snd''
[06:16] <youngcoder> pwner do you need the JRE or LDK?
[06:16] <intelikey> or look in  /mnt/   rather than  /media/
[06:16] <pwn3r> just the jre
[06:16] <youngcoder> pwn3r, err JRE or JDK?
[06:16] <oveh> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[06:17] <youngcoder> ok
[06:17] <brenner> twysted: yeah, if you use the fglrx driver in the repo that is ... using the installer can be a bit fiddly
[06:17] <trans_err> oveh: not for me
[06:17] <oveh> hmm
[06:17] <twysted> brenner i havent had a problem with getting nvidia drivers working in linux, with ati is always been one thing or another
[06:17] <youngcoder> pwn3r, did you try to install it through synaptic?
[06:18] <glick> it says 362 MBs are being used but there is nothing on the damn ipod
[06:18] <Fixion> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/478926
[06:18] <Mabus06> twysted, thanks... I'm finding it at about 160US, is that good?
[06:18] <twysted> for the GF6600?
[06:18] <Mabus06> yeah
[06:18] <pwn3r> youngcoder, the only package i seen relevent was java-common, i read the wiki about restricted formats
[06:18] <twysted> thats not bad
[06:18] <twysted> check amazon
[06:18] <twysted> i think it was like $130
[06:18] <Mabus06> the pny you said as well
[06:19] <digirat> i'll sell you a gf6600gt pci express for $125
[06:19] <Mabus06> Need agp, sorry.
[06:19] <digirat> hah
[06:19] <youngcoder> pwn3r, did java-common not work?
[06:19] <twysted> i have a agp :P
[06:19] <crimsun> Fixion: what precisely are the error messages that you get when running xmms (with the alsa plugin) as a normal user?
[06:19] <pwn3r> youngcoder, i would like to install the sun java
[06:20] <Dreamglider> what can i do about this, apt-get update gives me W: GPG error: http//www.os.works.com testing release: the following signatures couldnt be verified becaus the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CF455A0A8AC2C0A6 & you may want to run apt-get update to correct there problems. wich again gives me the gpg error!
[06:20] <tkup> is there any other plugin that can handle realplayer's *.ra?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> Dreamglider: you can ignore it, as long as you trust that repo..
[06:20] <Fixion> crimsun: couldn't open audio; please check that; your soundcard is configured properly; you have the correct output plugin selected; no other program is blocking the sound card
[06:20] <liable> Dreamglider: you need to get the key, if there isnt one, just ignore it i guess..
[06:21] <intelikey> Dreamglider nice loop error    :)
[06:21] <pwn3r> youngcoder, but im not sure how to install the decompressed files from the sun self extracting file.
[06:21] <digirat> i added pureftpd::boot:sudo /usr/local/sbin/./proftpd -c /usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf
[06:21] <Dreamglider> will i still get the updates from that repo ?
[06:21] <digirat> into my /etc/inittab but its not running
[06:21] <crimsun> Fixion: as a user, what is the output from ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*'' ?
[06:21] <Fixion> crimsun: but... when I go to configure it, there is nothing under "mixer card" and there aren't any sound devices under "audio device"
[06:22] <digirat> however, when i run the command myself, it runs fine. how do i get it to run on system startup?
[06:22] <Fixion> crimsun: I messed up, let me pastebin the stuff again
[06:22] <Hobbsee> Dreamglider: yes
[06:22] <intelikey> Dreamglider a warning is not an error.   it finishes the task but tells you that something didn't check out correctly.
[06:22] <youngcoder> pwn3r, what type of file did you download?
[06:22] <pwn3r> youngcoder, limewire?
[06:23] <youngcoder> oh lord
[06:23] <pwn3r> LOL
[06:23] <youngcoder> java.sun.com.. go to the linux part of tat site and download a tar file and ten use console to install it
[06:23] <digirat> can someone help me get one command running at boot?
[06:23] <Fixion> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/478928
[06:23] <Fixion> crimsun: that includes both outputs
[06:23] <pwn3r> youngcoder, thankyou ;)
[06:24] <youngcoder> pwn3r, ur welcome
[06:24] <Shadyman> Hey guys. Here comes the inevitable question, and before I get told off, owning MP3s are legal in Canada. That said, where do I get the codec to play them?
[06:24] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[06:24] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:24] <ElitePete> when i boot up i get an error, setting sensor values or something - Failed
[06:24] <ElitePete> any ideas?
[06:24] <Shadyman> Hobbsee: Thx.
[06:24] <Hobbsee> no problems
[06:25] <pestilence> Shadyman: i think owning mp3's is legal in every country, no?
[06:25] <Hobbsee> Shadyman: scroll down to 'the codecs"
[06:25] <youngcoder> i think so as well
[06:25] <twysted> i think he means its legal to pirate mp3s in canada
[06:25] <brenner> digirat: add it to sys > prefs > sessions > startup progs perhaps?
[06:25] <pestilence> twysted: ;)
[06:25] <crimsun> Fixion: see the problem yet?
[06:25] <twysted> i guess hes gotten yelled at before for asking how to play mp3s
[06:25] <Shadyman> pestilence: It is also legal to download them in Canada.
[06:25] <Shadyman> pestilence: Just not upload.
[06:25] <youngcoder> well if you pay for a napster subscription i think itis legal in the states too
[06:25] <Fixion> crimsun: yeah, but I have no idea how to fix it
[06:26] <crimsun> Fixion: as root, pkill xmms
[06:26] <pestilence> youngcoder: what if you use lame and encode your own wav's?
[06:26] <twysted> napster isnt mp3s, its wma
[06:26] <twysted> but anyways
[06:26] <twysted> back on topic :)
[06:26] <kakei> any one knows a client who connects to yim and be able to watch a cam
[06:26] <Fixion> crimsun: done
[06:26] <digirat> brenner: is it possible to run that command as root?
[06:26] <crimsun> Fixion: now restart xmms as a normal user
[06:27] <ElitePete> !sensors
[06:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[06:27] <pestilence> kakei: i think that is possibly a future feature in gaim...but right now i know of none
[06:27] <Fixion> crimsun: done
[06:27] <brenner> digirat: i'm not too sure to be honest. :-/
[06:27] <twysted> kakei, there are none that i know of
[06:28] <crimsun> Fixion: you should be able to play audio as a normal user
[06:28] <erosgol> how do u switch from gnome to kde?
[06:28] <kakei> twysted =(
[06:28] <Fixion> crimsun: I still can't, in the configuration alot of the stiff is still missing that apperas as root
[06:28] <twysted> kakei, i know i am saddend as well, how else am i suppose to see naked women on cam when in linux?!
[06:28] <crimsun> Fixion: what error do you get?
[06:29] <kakei> twysted yes no wetcams on linux =(
[06:29] <brenner> erosgol: install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[06:29] <Fixion> crimsun: the same thing, there is nothing under "mixer card" or "audio device" in the alsa configuration.
[06:29] <erosgol> ty
[06:29] <slew> hi, im trying to make an avi into a dvd i can view in a regular dvd player. how do i do that?
[06:30] <crimsun> Fixion: did you say that you removed your current user from the audio group?
[06:31] <Fixion> crimsun: to get gnome to run yes, but I thought I added the user to audio again (after gnome started), let me check.
[06:31] <glick> anyone here use an ipod with their ubuntu desktop?
[06:31] <Fixion> crimsun: yeah, the user is already part of audio
[06:31] <crimsun> Fixion: changes to groups require logging back in to take effect.
[06:31] <Fixion> crimsun: although I don't know if I'll be able to start gnome again... could this be a permissions problem?
[06:32] <crimsun> Fixion: yes, it appears to be a permissions problem
[06:32] <oveh> the letters "a" end "e" don't work in gnome terminal anymore, anyone know what i should do to fix it?
[06:32] <Shadyman> oveh: Get a new keyboard.
[06:32] <Fixion> crimsun: I'll log in and out (and change irssi to an other console), brb
[06:32] <Shadyman> :)
[06:32] <oveh> Shadyman: its a laptop
[06:32] <Shadyman> oveh: get a new laptop.
[06:32] <cyphase> oveh, do they work everywhere else?
[06:32] <oveh> yes, aeaeaeae
[06:32] <cyphase> lol
[06:32] <cyphase> oh, yea
[06:33] <slew> hehehe
[06:33] <oveh> ;P
[06:33] <cyphase> "the letters "a" and "e"..."
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hehehehe
[06:33] <cyphase> :D
[06:33] <brenner> slew: hit the forum.  i'm sure someone would've asked that one
[06:33] <Fixion> crimsun: yeah, now gnome won't start :(
[06:33] <rjordan> just got a new laptop :D
[06:33] <Dreamglider> damn
[06:33] <cyphase> that's like "what's your name oveh?"
[06:34] <Hobbsee> i'd check if something else is using those keys, maybe as an alias or something...
[06:34] <slew> brenner-> which forum?
[06:34] <Fixion> crimsun: it just hangs with a brown screen and a cursor (and won't respond to anything but ctrl-alt-bkspace)
[06:34] <cyphase> Fixion, i had that problem a while back..
[06:34] <oveh> someone please help me, its 06:30 in norway and i'me really want to go to sleep ;P
[06:34] <crimsun> Fixion: can you reproduce this symptom with a new user? (Make sure to add the user to the audio group.)
[06:34] <brenner> slew: ubuntuforums.org
[06:34] <slew>  thanks
[06:34] <Fixion> crimsun: I'll try
[06:35] <cyphase> Fixion, a few days after i installed breezy
[06:35] <cyphase> so i just reinstalled it :P
[06:35] <cyphase> hasn't haappened since
[06:35] <cyphase> happened*
[06:35] <ElitePete> can anyone help me get my sensors working, i have followed the guide... but no luck
[06:35] <liable> dpkg-reconfigure console-data??
[06:35] <liable> oveh: ^^
[06:35] <oveh> done that
[06:36] <oveh> still the same
[06:36] <brenner> do they work in other terminals e.g. xterm?
[06:37] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/console* restart
[06:37] <cyphase> oveh, try pasting 'a' and 'e' from somewhere else into the terminal
[06:37] <Fixion> crimsun: yeah same problem
[06:37] <oveh> cyphase: doesn't work
[06:37] <Fixion> cyphase: I reinstalled 3 times... same problem
[06:37] <crimsun> Fixion: so it persists after a reboot?
[06:37] <cyphase> Fixion, any idea why?
[06:37] <cyphase> all i got was that gnome hangs on starting
[06:37] <oveh> brenner: gonna try, just have to install it first
[06:37] <Fixion> crimsun: so far, as many times as I've tried, yes
[06:38] <cyphase> startup*
[06:38] <Fixion> cyphase: it has something to do with the user being in the audio group
[06:38] <ElitePete> can anyone help me get my sensors working, i have followed the guide... but no luck
[06:38] <crimsun> Fixion: reproducible with a Dapper Flight 2 live cd?
[06:38] <brenner> oveh: should be installed already
[06:38] <Wilf> how do you excecute a bin file?
[06:38] <cyphase> Fixion, that's it?
[06:38] <Fixion> cyphase: or the audio itself (which only works as root)
[06:38] <Fixion> crimsun: never tried
[06:38] <cyphase> if you remove someone from the audio group, it works?
[06:38] <Fixion> cyphase: apparently
[06:38] <intelikey> Wilf sh file.bin
[06:38] <Fixion> cyphase: yes
[06:38] <cyphase> hmm
[06:38] <crimsun> Fixion: it would help debug the issue
[06:38] <Fixion> crimsun: where would I get that cd?
[06:38] <Fixion> crimsun: google for it?
[06:38] <cyphase> speaking of which, i need to burn the flight 2 cd
[06:39] <intelikey> Wilf ./file.bin
[06:39] <cyphase> thanx for reminding me crimsun :D
[06:39] <cyphase> lol
[06:39] <crimsun> Fixion: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html
[06:39] <brenner> oveh: what input method are you using? right-click in gnome-term
[06:39] <intelikey> either or
[06:39] <Wilf> hmmm i've been trying ./foo.bin
[06:39] <Wilf> nothing, but sh worked
[06:39] <brenner> it might have something to do with that
[06:39] <brenner> chmod +x maybe?
[06:39] <liable> is it +x?
[06:39] <Fixion> crimsun: I'm downloading it
[06:39] <intelikey> Wilf that means the permissions were not executable on it.
[06:40] <ElitePete> can anyone help me get my sensors working, i have followed the guide... but no luck
[06:40] <Wilf> permissions are annoying :(
[06:40] <intelikey> you could have chmod +x file.bin    and then ./ will work
[06:40] <oveh> brenner: its on default
[06:40] <Fixion> crimsun: is this an ubuntu bug?  I've had audio working on this laptop under debian (minimalist net install)
[06:40] <brenner> oveh: did you try xterm?
[06:40] <oveh> brenner: yes, doesnt work in xterm either
[06:41] <Fixion> crimsun: I installed off the 5.10 cd (breezy I believe) is there anything newer?
[06:41] <liable> Chrisu: get it sorted?
[06:41] <brenner> weird
[06:41] <oveh> mm!
[06:41] <cyphase> Fixion, nothing stable
[06:41] <cyphase> there's Dapper flight 2, but that's a long way from final release
[06:41] <brenner> oveh: that's all i have sorry :-/
[06:42] <crimsun> Fixion: it's difficult to say whether it's a config issue or an ALSA issue, which is why I'm asking you to test a Flight 2 live cd
[06:42] <Fixion> cyphase: I ran unstable for over 3 years in debian, I can live with unstable releases
[06:42] <intelikey> oveh i haven't kept up with you did you say no 'e' or 'a' in console  or not in terminals  or both ?
[06:42] <Chrisu> liable..
[06:42] <Chrisu> No
[06:42] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, is there a file I can add to my home dir to enable composite estensions to just my sessions?
[06:42] <Chrisu> I cannot run Ubuntu nor WIndows anymore :(
[06:42] <liable> Chrisu: did you check your menu.lst?
[06:43] <Chrisu> I've got Error 17
[06:43] <Fixion> cyphase: whats the ubuntu unstable version?
[06:43] <ludi> has anyone tried the latest ubuntu dapper live CD?
[06:43] <oveh> intelikey: in terminals, not tried it in console yet
[06:43] <Chrisu> menu.lst ? no, I didn't check that.
[06:43] <liable> Chrisu: run grub-install /dev/hda
[06:43] <tsawyer> dapper = eww
[06:43] <ElitePete> can anyone please help me with a sensor program
[06:43] <Chrisu> I did that.
[06:43] <cyphase> Fixion, Dapper Flight 2
[06:43] <liable> Chrisu: then paste the menu.lst
[06:44] <Chrisu> It it said some like "error loading grub"
[06:44] <glick> excuse me does anyone know why when i plug in my ipod it wont umount properly when i hit unmount on the icon?
[06:44] <Chrisu> how do I open menu.lst ?
[06:44] <liable> Chrisu: in an editor. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:45] <Chrisu> ok.. wait a second... :)
[06:45] <ludi> has anyone tried the latest ubuntu dapper live CD?
[06:45] <davfigue> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:45] <ludi> I received errors when booting this environment
[06:45] <oveh> intelikey: i think its something involving utf-8 and iso-8859-1, because i fooled around alot getting  to work in irssi
[06:46] <intelikey> well there you go oveh  you know what you did to break it.  so fix it.  :)
[06:47] <digirat> how would i run something as root at system boot?
[06:47] <Chrisu> liable
[06:47] <Chrisu> Here it is the outcome: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6181
[06:47] <youngcoder> digirat what are you trying to run?
[06:47] <digirat> one command to start up pureftpd but it must be ran as root
[06:48] <digirat> or rather. proftpfd
[06:48] <michael_> can someone pls help me how to install firefox  1.5 for linux'
[06:48] <intelikey> digirat as a script in the /etc/init.d  dir   called via a symlink in /etc/rc2.d
[06:48] <oveh> intelikey: doesn't work in terminals and in the console
[06:48] <glick> does anyone know why it might be doing that? when i try to unmount my ipod it says problem unmounting ipod
[06:48] <ElitePete> i think that guy needs to update his tutorial for sensors
[06:48] <liable> Chrisu: change where it says hda3 to hda4 and (hd0,2) to (hd0,3)
[06:49] <digirat> intelikey: will that get ran as root though?
[06:49] <liable> Chrisu: how did you get into this state anyway?
[06:49] <Chrisu> hda3 to hda4 and (hd0,2) to (hd0,3)
[06:49] <Chrisu> ohh.
[06:49] <intelikey> glick got a window or terminal open in the ipod ?
[06:49] <Chrisu> I was partitioning, I mean resizing my partition.
[06:49] <glick> intelikey, no
[06:49] <glick> i didnt
[06:49] <intelikey> digirat that's what you asked for isn't it.
[06:49] <Chrisu> ><
[06:49] <glick> intelikey, the icon on the desktop disppears
[06:50] <glick> and so does the entry in /media/ipod
[06:50] <Faithful> Hey guys I am getting really cross with my X performance on breezy... my mplayer used to work fine on fedora 2 on my laptop ... but since I moved it to breezy I cannot watch my divx files... they are so slow and xorg is maxing out my cpu
[06:50] <glick> but its still not properly unmounted
[06:50] <digirat> so... how do you create a script?
[06:50] <intelikey> glick idk.
[06:50] <michael_> fire fox 1.5?
[06:51] <Faithful> is it just an xorg vs xfree86 issue?
[06:51] <Chrisu> liable
[06:51] <Chrisu> I can't seem to find hda3 and the others...
[06:51] <Chrisu> maybe I am getting blind.
[06:51] <Chrisu> :(
[06:52] <intelikey> digirat the commands you issue from the command line you put them in a file just like they appear on the command line  except leave off the 'sudo '    then do a chmod 700 your_script.sh   and put it in the init.d/
[06:52] <liable> Chrisu: the bottom half of the file.. kernel                /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[06:52] <ElitePete> i downloaded sensors-applet but i cant' seem to find it?
[06:52] <Chrisu> ok, let me take a look.
[06:52] <donkeybeliever> Hi, Im looking for a live cd Linux distribution that is built for AP Computer Science students, specifically I want a good IDE (perhaps eclipse) and the latest Java and SDK with documentation included. Is it possible to modify an Ubuntu distribution to fit my needs or is there a better solution? Thanks!
[06:53] <sethk> donkeybeliever, it wouldn't be hard to modify the live cd.  I don't know of a live cd that has it, but I haven't tried all the live cds
[06:53] <liable> -686
[06:53] <digirat> and how do you symlink from /etc/rc2.d ? just put in your_script.sh anywhere?
[06:54] <donkeybeliever> Yea, I would like it to be a live cd since most people would be too scared to switch from Windows at this point
[06:54] <donkeybeliever> Is there an FAQ or guide on modifiying a live cd to include these packages?
[06:55] <intelikey> digirat  ln -s /etc/init.d/your_script.sh /etc/rc2.d/S57your_script
[06:55] <Chrisu> ok, I'm ready, Liable :)
[06:55] <crimsun> man update-rc.d
[06:55] <Chrisu> do I need to change anything else?
[06:56] <intelikey> only use update-rc.d if you want all runlevels to be the same....
[06:56] <liable> Chrisu: did you change all of them?
[06:56] <ElitePete> is 107F hot for a p4 ?
[06:56] <aeon17x> ElitePete: no.
[06:56] <kevinix> PCMCIA gurus, i have a PCMCIA Fax/Modem card on my laptop. i run tail -f /var/log/syslog and i see that the card is picked up and the serial_cs.o driver loaded and i'm told it's given ttyS0. however, when trying to setup the modem in my network preferences it doesn't auto-detect the modem and /dev/ttys0 has nothing. any ideas?
[06:56] <ElitePete> aeon17x, :-)
[06:56] <Chrisu> yep, all that you told me, hda3 to hda4 and hd,2 to hd0.3 ;)
[06:56] <crimsun> intelikey: when would they differ?
[06:56] <Dreamglider> pestilence: ill try to download xfce4-<IP_ADDRESS>-installer.bin
[06:57] <aeon17x> That's pretty cool (pun unintended), my Duron is playing around 50 celsius.
[06:57] <ElitePete> aeon17x, i have vmware xp pro running also so i think that temp is good
[06:57] <liable> Chrisu: now run grub-install /dev/hda just to make sure
[06:57] <ElitePete> aeon17x, i remember it used to idle at 150F on windows even with nothing on
[06:58] <Dreamglider> how do i install a bin file
[06:58] <Chrisu> I couldn't save it... it says that I don't have permission ><
[06:58] <Chrisu> I am using knoppix Live CD BTY.
[06:58] <ElitePete> Chrisu, use sudo
[06:58] <liable> Chrisu: you need to remount the partition rw
[06:58] <intelikey> mine always do crimsun.  if you have different configurations setup for different things, that is what runlevels are for.   makeing all runlevels the same except 1 and 0  is only for those that never want their box to do anything except what it is doing right now......
[06:59] <liable> Chrisu: mount -o remount rw /dev/hda4
[06:59] <ElitePete> i need to talk to the guy who wrote the sensors tutorial
[06:59] <Chrisu> ok
[07:00] <batman> hey does anyone know of a port scanner i can get?
[07:00] <intelikey> nmap
[07:01] <crimsun> intelikey: that's interesting, but many packaged applications make global assumptions about Debian's sysvinit structure
[07:01] <intelikey> and ?
[07:01] <Chrisu> the hda4 is already mounted, and I cannot unmount again to I can mount is with rw
[07:01] <kevinix> /var/run/stab gives "0 serial serial_cs 0 ttys0 6 64" but ls -l /dev/ttys0 comes up as a dead file.. any ideas?
[07:01] <Chrisu> it says that it is busy
[07:01] <Dreamglider> how do i install a *.bin file
[07:01] <Chrisu> device is busy
[07:01] <intelikey> Dreamglider run it ?
[07:01] <liable> Chrisu: shut any windows that are looking in the partition..
[07:02] <Chrisu> oh. forgot to do that.
[07:02] <Dreamglider> intelikey how
[07:02] <digirat> intelikey i love you. thanks
[07:02] <crimsun> intelikey: suggest what you wish, of course, but keep in mind that we maintainers have to clean up for people who inadvertently have dangling symlinks
[07:02] <intelikey> sh file.bin   maybe ?
[07:03] <Chrisu> it says: # mount -o remount rw /dev/hda4
[07:03] <Chrisu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:03] <intelikey> kangling symlinks are not much to call a problem.  imo
[07:03] <liable> Chrisu: hrm that doesnt bode well, but put a -t ext3 in there..
[07:04] <intelikey> digirat welcome.
[07:04] <Chrisu> like    mount -o remount rw /dev/hda4 -t ext
[07:04] <crimsun> intelikey: they are when bug reports are filed on packages, because we have no idea that they were created outside of update-rc.d
[07:04] <Chrisu> ?
[07:04] <RON2255> HI
[07:04] <liable> Chrisu: mount -o remount,rw -t ext3  /dev/hda4
[07:04] <muchmusic> no comma iirc
[07:05] <Dreamglider> intelikey: sh file.bin opens the file in gedit!!
[07:05] <liable> prolly, i always get mount an fstab confused..
[07:05] <RON2255> I am new to ubuntu. Help me. I just need to know everything about it
[07:05] <Chrisu> I get this Liable:
[07:05] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6182
[07:05] <ElitePete> how do i get more add to panel options for gnome?
[07:06] <RON2255> Any one there to help me?
[07:06] <fli7e> Anyone familiar with Macintosh's "RSS Visualizer" screen saver? Is there a linux screen saver that does that?
[07:06] <crimsun> RON2255: "everything"?
[07:06] <RON2255> hi crimsum
[07:07] <Faust> is there is a reason why breezy doesn't respond to reconfigure-xserver-xorg nor does apt-cache search find the package?
[07:07] <Chrisu> weird...
[07:07] <RON2255> few moment ago i had install this becasue to learn
[07:07] <intelikey> lol well i'm not one to be trying to cause you any problems crimsun but if it is that important to ubuntu to sync all runlevels  why don't they drop all but 0 1 2   the 3 4 5 & 6   are useless on a synced system  will 6 may be reboot in place of power down  but  why have they not depreciated them if they insist on uniformity ?
[07:07] <Faust> dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:07] <RON2255> But very complecated
[07:07] <crimsun> RON2255: there's fairly good documentation; try beginning with the documentation in System> Help, then take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <radiator> anyone have a second to explain to me how to get a NTFS secondary drive to be accessible to Ubuntu?
[07:08] <RON2255> is that for the beginer?
[07:08] <crimsun> intelikey: we maintain compatibility as much as possible with our upstream (Debian)
[07:08] <liable> Chrisu: ok, i dunno what knoppix mount it on, so just umount it, mkdir /rescue and mount /dev/hda4 on rescue. (although i am sure i have just done the remount trick with knoppix before)
[07:09] <fli7e> RSS Visualizer for linux, anyone?
[07:09] <pilgrim> I have HT CPU and I'm using the non smp kernel right now because when I installed the SMP kernel and tried to boot it it took about 5mins. to _boot_. Anyone know why this would be?
[07:09] <muchmusic> fuk7e no I haven't, I like the os X one tho..
[07:09] <intelikey> hmmm   ok.   well that's off topic i guess so i'll move on.
[07:09] <Chrisu> ok :)
[07:09] <RON2255> Thank u very much Crimsun I do for that right now
[07:09] <fli7e> thanks muchmusic, anyone else ever seen anything similar?
[07:10] <crimsun> pilgrim: no idea without further diagnostics provided by you.
[07:10] <Chrisu> liable.
[07:10] <Chrisu> Maybe I should boot Ubuntu Live...
[07:10] <liable> Chrisu: not really necessary
[07:10] <Chrisu> knoppix is such a foreign distro...
[07:11] <Chrisu> well..
[07:11] <pilgrim> crimsun: well. where do i start this diagnostic process?
[07:11] <Chrisu> I can mount it my clicking the hda4 device. but, I cannot modify anything...
[07:11] <liable> Chrisu: umount /dev/hda4 && mkdir /rescue && mount /dev/hda4 /rescue && vim /rescue/etc/fstab
[07:11] <crimsun> pilgrim: dmesg in the SMP kernel
[07:13] <slide> Can anyone recommend a good full featured audio manager? It can manage all the music, look up cd info etc etc?
[07:13] <slide> oh and NOT KDE
[07:13] <Chrisu> ok.
[07:13] <pilgrim> crimsun: thanks for your suggestions.
[07:13] <jasonkb> hehehe
[07:13] <crimsun> slide: try quodlibet
[07:13] <Amaranth> slide: banshee or amarok
[07:13] <Chrisu> ok! liable it worked !
[07:13] <slide> crakrjak, ok :)
[07:13] <slide> Amaranth, i tried amarok, it keeps crashing all my sh*t heh
[07:13] <Chrisu> ohh no..
[07:13] <Chrisu>  not what I though ><
[07:14] <Chrisu> anyway, fstab is open now
[07:14] <glick> does itunes work with wine?
[07:14] <liable> Chrisu: um, doh! sorry..
[07:14] <Chrisu> hahaha :D
[07:14] <muchmusic> haha take off the vim /rescue/etc/fstab chris and it will just mount it
[07:15] <Chrisu> I though it was a neat trick ;)
[07:15] <muchmusic> I mean the && vim* etc
[07:15] <muchmusic> =p
[07:15] <liable> Chrisu: :q   vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:15] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6183
[07:16] <kaffeend> aloha :)
[07:16] <Chrisu> cliable!! something weird happend.
[07:16] <Chrisu> the menu seems to be EMPTY  :(
[07:17] <liable> Chrisu: typo, you have made a new file.
[07:17] <Chrisu> ohh.
[07:17] <kaffeend> how do I get my soundcard to work?
[07:17] <Chrisu> hahaha ::D
[07:17] <liable> Chrisu: :q
[07:17] <Chrisu> :)
[07:17] <liable> Chrisu: use tab completion :)
[07:18] <kaffeend> !audio
[07:18] <ubotu> kaffeend: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:18] <kaffeend> no
[07:18] <Chrisu> New root shell ?
[07:18] <liable> Chrisu: no, just shut the file with :q and open it up again, with the right spelling..
[07:19] <kaffeend> I have a creative soundblaster that I don't think is the default audio device... anyone know how to make it so?
[07:19] <nak> I <3 Ubuntu
[07:19] <crimsun> kaffeend: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[07:19] <Chrisu> what's the correct spelling ?
[07:20] <kaffeend> crimsun to the rescue again! :P
[07:20] <kaffeend> thanks mate
[07:20] <liable> Chrisu: vim /re<tab>bo<tab>gr<tab>men<tab>
[07:20] <Chrisu> BRB
[07:20] <blanky> !java
[07:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:20] <kaffeend> crimsun - I managed to get the ATi drivers working at last :D
[07:21] <glick> heh this blows i guess i cant use ubuntu or linux rather with my ipod
[07:21] <crimsun> kaffeend: excellent. Now output from that command?
[07:21] <Chrisu> ok, here I am
[07:21] <glick> does itunes work with wine at least?
[07:21] <Chrisu> it says
[07:21] <Chrisu> vim /re<tab>bo<tab>gr<tab>men<tab>
[07:21] <kaffeend> got the damn onboard AC97 drivers
[07:21] <crimsun> glick: an older version of iTunes works with Crossover, yes.
[07:21] <Chrisu> vim /re<tab>bo<tab>gr<tab>men<tab>
[07:21] <Chrisu> ??
[07:21] <Chrisu> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:21] <crimsun> kaffeend: cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:22] <glick> short of installing windows to use my ipod is there any other way i can get the damn thing to upload songs
[07:22] <glick> ?
[07:22] <liable> Chrisu: vim /re (hit tab) bo (hit tab..)
[07:22] <glick> gtkpod keeps screwing up my ipod and corrupting it
[07:22] <Chrisu> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:22] <kaffeend> 0 [V8237          ] : VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[07:22] <kaffeend>                      VIA 8237 with ALC655 at 0xdc00, irq 22
[07:22] <kaffeend> oops
[07:22] <liable> gah!
[07:22] <kaffeend> ah, hope Seveas didn't see that
[07:23] <Chrisu> ? now I'm lost. haha....
[07:23] <liable> Chrisu: vim /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <kaffeend> crimsun - should I check the creative site for linux drivers?
[07:24] <crimsun> kaffeend: what's your sound blaster?
[07:25] <kaffeend> SB Live! 5.1
[07:25] <kaffeend> that's all I know
[07:25] <Chrisu> liable
[07:25] <Chrisu> I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6184
[07:25] <crimsun> kaffeend: then it should be listed in ``lspci -v|grep -i audio''
[07:26] <kaffeend> all I get is: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[07:26] <kaffeend>    Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-7VAX Onboard Audio (Realtek ALC650)
[07:26] <pussfeller> is FUSE support in the kernel?
[07:26] <liable> Chrisu: yes, thats the one, now change the hda3 to hda4 and (hd0,2) to (hd0,3)
[07:26] <Chrisu> ok :)
[07:26] <crimsun> pussfeller: yes
[07:26] <pussfeller> ty
[07:26] <glick> do you guys have any idea what i can/should do?
[07:26] <crimsun> pussfeller: grep FUSE /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[07:27] <kaffeend> !pastebin
[07:27] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:27] <crimsun> kaffeend: are you positive it's an sb live 5.1?
[07:27] <kaffeend> thanks ubotu
[07:27] <kestas> is it? I thought fuse was a loadable module you had to install
[07:27] <kaffeend> crimsun - lol - yes
[07:28] <pussfeller> its there, it loads
[07:28] <liable> Chrisu: when you have fixed all this, take a look here   http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/316  (very handy when working with bash)
[07:28] <kestas> when I installed it I had to add it to /etc/modules myself
[07:28] <kaffeend> I put this box together myself ;)
[07:28] <Chrisu> ok liable. thank you so much!! :) I am still editing the menu.lst
[07:29] <crimsun> kaffeend: yet it's not showing up in lspci. Does the device enumeration listing after POST list it?
[07:29] <pussfeller> what kernel you got kestas
[07:29] <pussfeller> i got <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:29] <kestas> 2.6.12-10-686
[07:29] <pussfeller> 3-6
[07:29] <kestas> oh, arent you using ubuntu?
[07:29] <kaffeend> crimsun - idk
[07:29] <pussfeller> no that 3 is a 6
[07:29] <kestas> or an old version?
[07:29] <crimsun> kaffeend: please reboot and find out
[07:29] <kaffeend> doh
[07:29] <kestas> oh okay
[07:29] <pussfeller> its the same one
[07:29] <kaffeend> what am I looking for?
[07:30] <crimsun> kaffeend: the device listing for the sb live
[07:30] <pussfeller> excpet mines 386
[07:30] <glick> ubuntu anyone?
[07:30] <crimsun> kaffeend: you just need to know that your motherboard recognizes it
[07:30] <kaffeend> yes but when does it show up?
[07:30] <crimsun> kaffeend: after POST
[07:30] <nak> glick: pour me a cup
[07:30] <kaffeend> ok
[07:30] <kestas> I didnt know fuse came as default
[07:30] <kaffeend> brb
[07:30] <glick> ubuntu and ipod?
[07:30] <Chrisu> It came to my attention that there is one that says:            (hd1,2)
[07:30] <kestas> when you say FUSE you're talking about Filesystem in USErland right?
[07:31] <Amaranth> glick: gtkpod
[07:31] <Chrisu> Should I live it as it is ?
[07:31] <Amaranth> !info gtkpod-aac
[07:31] <pussfeller> glick: or amarok, the recent svn has decent support at least
[07:31] <glick> Amaranth, gtkpod for some reason isnt syncing my ipod correctly and i cant unmount it for some reason, which always ends up corrupting my thing
[07:31] <liable> Chrisu: is that the windows one?
[07:31] <pussfeller> i couldnt get my hands around gtkpod, myself
[07:31] <Amaranth> glick: banshee
[07:31] <glick> i cant even unmount it correctly
[07:31] <glick> banshee?
[07:31] <andrew22> i tried installing ubuntu on a Dell P3 with 512 ram but the partioner gets stuck on making the ext3...when i manually made the changes, it worked but gave me a red screen in the middle...any ideas why?
[07:32] <Chrisu> I don't know. It's in the first one
[07:32] <kestas> andrew22, is there an error message?
[07:32] <glick> whats banshee
[07:32] <andrew22> i.e, it gets stuck at 3% when "Creating ext3 file system"
[07:32] <Amaranth> http://www.banshee-project.org/Main_Page
[07:32] <liable> Chrisu: just change the hda3 ones and (hd0,2) ones
[07:32] <pussfeller> banshee is a mono app ( i think) for ipods
[07:32] <kestas> andrew22, did you switch tty and check for errors there?
[07:32] <Chrisu> ok :)
[07:32] <andrew22> i dont know of the error msg...since i cant read the log
[07:33] <andrew22> i tried 2 hd's
[07:33] <andrew22> lol
[07:33] <andrew22> could it be a bad cd burn?
[07:33] <Chrisu> ok. if I put ctrl zzz it will save it automaticaly ?
[07:33] <kaffeend> well, that's strange
[07:33] <kestas> andrew22, ctrl-alt-F1, F2, F3 etc and check for error messages
[07:33] <andrew22> k one sec
[07:33] <kaffeend> I was shown nothing after POST
[07:33] <liable> Chrisu: esc, then shift +zz
[07:33] <Chrisu> oh! sorry. Forgot about the escape one.
[07:33] <kaffeend> black screen with the cursor in the top-left corner
[07:33] <liable> Chrisu: i dont see in youre previous paste where there is a (hd1,2)
[07:33] <intelikey> andrew22  anti-virus protection in the bios.... althought i don't think any bios calls last that far into a linux boot.....
[07:33] <andrew22> kestas....its just stuck at 3%, no shortcuts do anything
[07:34] <pussfeller> shift + zz?
[07:34] <andrew22> its P3...what protection lol
[07:34] <kaffeend> crimsun: I've lost my dual-boot
[07:34] <Chrisu> alright! done :)\
[07:34] <kestas> andrew22, hmmm
[07:34] <andrew22> bad cable?
[07:34] <kestas> andrew22, is this a new pc?
[07:34] <slew> hi, whats the command to make a tgz file into a .deb file?
[07:34] <andrew22> OLDDD
[07:34] <pussfeller> u sure it burned right?
[07:35] <andrew22> well it did boot :)
[07:35] <kestas> andrew22, any problems with it recently?
[07:35] <andrew22> havent used it recently lol
[07:35] <andrew22> 6 months ago..it ran fine
[07:35] <pussfeller> i got a p3 and it works fine
[07:35] <kestas> andrew22, might be somehow kerput, anyhow I doubt v much this is a problem with ubuntu
[07:35] <Chrisu> ok.
[07:35] <liable> Chrisu: now, grub; root (hd0,2); setup (hd0); quit
[07:36] <andrew22> likewise but could it be that its not reading the cd correct?
[07:36] <kestas> Ive got it installed on a p2 with 128mb ram (jukebox) , so its not too slow for ubuntu (even desktop ubuntu)
[07:36] <liable> Chrisu: seperate commands errr, (hd0,3)
[07:36] <intelikey> andrew22 sounds hardware-ish  not linux-ish to me.
[07:36] <Chrisu> what ? ><
[07:36] <andrew22> well i got 2 more pc's if anythin :-P
[07:36] <liable> Chrisu: /j #flood
[07:36] <andrew22> thx guys
[07:36] <Chrisu> so. it's root (hd0,3)
[07:37] <kestas> andrew, not likely, if there was a problem like that it wouldnt freeze, besides the program to format ext3 is very small so it wouldnt be reading from the cd after writing to the hdd
[07:37] <crimsun> kaffeend: does the sound card appear in the listing?
[07:37] <intelikey> andrew22 there is a cd test option on the install cd.  boot server-expert and test it.
[07:37] <holycow> wow
[07:37] <holycow> quod libet is one frickin wicked music player
[07:37] <Toran> Hey guys, how can I get my Philips Aurilium usb 5.1 channel external soundcard working in Ubuntu?
[07:37] <kaffeend> crimsun - there IS no listing - the system goes from POST to Ubuntu boot via a black screen :s
[07:37] <crimsun> holycow: 0.16-1 rocks
[07:37] <glick> this blows
[07:37] <andrew22> ok thx
[07:38] <slew> so im trying to compile 'tovid' and it needs dependencies, how do i make it so apt gets those depenencies?
[07:38] <holycow> crimsun, why didn't someone tell me about this earlier?
[07:38] <holycow> :)
[07:38] <Chrisu> liable, should I put root (hd0,3) instead of root (hd0,2) ?
[07:38] <liable> Chrisu: yes
[07:38] <holycow> crimsun, .13.1 is in the repo, is there a packaged .16?
[07:38] <Chrisu> ok :)
[07:38] <crimsun> holycow: in Dapper, yes
[07:38] <kaffeend> crimsun: don't even get to see the OS screen
[07:38] <holycow> ah! nice
[07:38] <holycow> danke
[07:39] <Packing_Kaiser> hi holycow
[07:39] <Toran> Does quodlibet support submitting tracks to last.fm?
[07:39] <crimsun> Toran: yep
[07:39] <Toran> nice.
[07:39] <Toran> Ok, how about my sound card question?
[07:39] <holycow> hey Packing_Kaiser
[07:39] <holycow> moving?>
[07:39] <Packing_Kaiser> :)
[07:40] <Packing_Kaiser> holiday. Tas then new zealand for linuxconf
[07:40] <kaffeend> what's PCMCIA?
[07:40] <holycow> :)
[07:40] <holycow> how long are you away for?
[07:41] <slew> has anyone gotten dvdstyler to install?
[07:41] <Packing_Kaiser> holycow: untill 9pm 31st of january :O
[07:41] <crimsun> Toran: just plug it in
[07:41] <holycow> have fun dude :)
[07:41] <Chrisu> liable.
[07:41] <Packing_Kaiser> kaffeend: a laptop card interface
[07:41] <Toran> crimsun: I did, lol, what do I do after that?
[07:41] <Chrisu> I get this:             bash: /j: No such file or directory
[07:41] <Toran> Will it just work?
[07:41] <intelikey> kaffeend that's what wikipedia.com is for
[07:41] <kaffeend> ah ok - thanks Packing_Kaiser :)
[07:41] <Packing_Kaiser> :0
[07:41] <Packing_Kaiser> np
[07:42] <kaffeend> intelikey do you ever smile?  LOL now I laugh out loud rally
[07:42] <crimsun> Toran: did an audio notification appear in the bottom right corner?
[07:42] <Toran> Well, I'm sorta on kubuntu :(
[07:43] <Toran> Do I have to log into gnome?
[07:43] <Chrisu> Now I see why it had "/"
[07:43] <Toran> lol, I'm playing the newbie here.
[07:43] <kaffeend> I don't absolutely need to know what PCMCIA is - was just curious... no need for wiki
[07:43] <crimsun> kaffeend: it'll be difficult to troubleshoot if we can't even tell that the motherboard recognizes the card
[07:43] <Chrisu> Why did you wanted me to type that ? :D
[07:43] <kaffeend> crimsun - this mobo recognised my card before now
[07:44] <holycow> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31717  <-- neato
[07:44] <crimsun> Toran: I don't think KDE has an audio notification dialog, but I don't know offhand since I don't have a KDE system to test
[07:44] <skar> hi, i've got a directory of images, is there any slide show kind of s/w to see all the pics one by one?
[07:44] <kaffeend> can we just assume that it can?
[07:44] <Chrisu> anyway, liable.
[07:44] <sethk> kaffeend, why assume?  It is easy enough to check
[07:44] <kaffeend> sethk - how so?
[07:45] <slew> does anyone burn dvd movies in here?
[07:45] <sethk> kaffeend, tell me the details, I just picked up the end of the conversation...
[07:45] <crimsun> Toran: check /proc/asound/cards
[07:45] <liable> good, reboot
[07:45] <ike_> Can anyone tell me how to disable the console beep in non-X mode and xterm clone terminals?
[07:45] <pussfeller> dont eog do slideshows?
[07:45] <kaffeend> well, when I reboot, after POST I get a black screen until Ubuntu loads up
[07:45] <intelikey> slew no we all burn them on disks, not in here....  :)
[07:45] <glick> damn
[07:45] <slew> niiice
[07:45] <crimsun> pussfeller: yes
[07:46] <Toran> crimsun: Yeah, it's listed there :D
[07:46] <Toran> crimsun: so how do I change over to it?
[07:46] <slew> when you guys decide to burn them on discs, what program do you typically use?
[07:46] <kaffeend> sethk: I miss the option to boot the "other" OS altogether
[07:46] <skar> hi, i've got a directory of images, is there any slide show kind of s/w to see all the pics one by one?
[07:46] <crimsun> Toran: tell programs to use /dev/dsp1 (oss) or hw:1 (alsa)
[07:46] <sethk> kaffeend, you mean that grub doesn't wait?
[07:46] <kaffeend> sethk exactly
[07:46] <pussfeller> skar, eog
[07:47] <crimsun> kaffeend: this screen appears before GRUB.
[07:47] <pussfeller> or kuickshow
[07:47] <sethk> kaffeend, let me look up that syntax, you have to add a line to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:47] <andrew22> hey guys...i got the following error "libc detected *** free(): invalid next size(fast): 0x080f6940 ***"
[07:47] <pussfeller> or the slideshow screensaver....
[07:47] <skar> pussfeller:ok will try it
[07:47] <kaffeend> crimsun - I'm telling you, I don't even see the "boot from cd" message
[07:47] <sethk> kaffeend,  add a line:    timeout 30
[07:47] <sethk> kaffeend, that waits 30 seconds
[07:47] <crimsun> kaffeend: it appears before that.
[07:47] <slew> heh seems the preferred dvd movie burning program is a closely guarded secret. i cant find anything that works anywhere
[07:47] <kaffeend> sethk it's at 30 now I believe
[07:48] <sethk> kaffeend, then crimsun's point is correct
[07:48] <one> does anyone know how to turn off the clock syncronization that checks for time during boot process?
[07:48] <glick> anyone here have an ipod nano?
[07:48] <glick> and using it successfully with ubuntu?
[07:48] <sethk> one, just install ntp.  the installation makes the configuration modifications for you
[07:48] <crimsun> kaffeend: this has nothing to do with GRUB. By then it's too late. You should see your system POST (quick scan of RAM, enum of mass storage, etc.).
[07:48] <intelikey> one remobe the symlink in /etc/rcS.d
[07:48] <Toran> crimsun: Hmm, my programs? Is there some global place I can set my sound device?
[07:48] <kaffeend> crimsun: please believe me when I say that I don't have more than a second or 2 to read the whole screen
[07:48] <sethk> kaffeend, some recent mobo's have a prompt like "tab to see POST messages"
[07:48] <crimsun> Toran: set-default-soundcard, or the KDE multimedia settings
[07:49] <sethk> kaffeend, if you don't see something like "hit DEL for setup", then you may have to press a key early in the boot to get the message screen
[07:49] <kaffeend> sethk I could try "pause break" on post
[07:50] <sethk> kaffeend, whatever gives you the opportunity to view the post messages, or to go into setup
[07:50] <sethk> kaffeend, you can use setup for viewing as well as changing
[07:50] <sethk> kaffeend, sometimes you need to go into setup and turn off "quick boot" to get the messages
[07:50] <kaffeend> sethk I'll go into BIOS then
[07:51] <sethk> kaffeend, k, then look for what crimsun was talking about
[07:51] <intelikey> he's gone
[07:51] <sethk> intelikey, :)
[07:51] <one> thanks seth and intelli
[07:51] <one> :))
[07:52] <intelikey> np
[07:52] <gn0me> Hey, I installed the new nVidia drivers but every time I reboot X won't start because the "nVidia kernel module is version <<old version>>".. I uninstalled the previous nvidia package and stuff, any idea how I can make it load the new kernel module at boot?
[07:53] <gn0me> I can run the installer again and startx to get in.. but I don't want to do that every time I reboot :-\
[07:53] <crimsun> you probably didn't uninstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:53] <Wilf> ust never reboot your computer
[07:53] <intelikey>  /etc/modules
[07:54] <gn0me> crimsun: If I remove that, will it get rid of more than just the nvidia driver?
[07:54] <crimsun> gn0me: yes
[07:55] <intelikey> me thinks it will
[07:55] <andrew22> kestas........thx for ur help..it was my RAM, thats what  i get for using my friends memory
[07:55] <intelikey> /
[07:55] <Toran> crimsun: Ok, I tried "set-default-soundcard 1", but it didn't seem to change anything. Do I need to reboot/log out/anything?
[07:56] <liable> Chrisu: didnt work huh?
[07:56] <Chrisu> Liable !
[07:56] <Chrisu> I'm back
[07:56] <Chrisu> ahhh
[07:56] <anir> hello friends
[07:56] <Chrisu> yeah, didn't work at all.
[07:56] <anir> how are you all doing
[07:56] <intelikey> anir
[07:57] <liable> Chrisu: and the error was?
[07:57] <Chrisu> I felt for a minute that I was runni g Windows 98 and had a Virus
[07:57] <Chrisu> And the error was "none"
[07:57] <crimsun> Toran: you'd need to log back in, yes, or you'd use /dev/dsp1
[07:57] <Chrisu> I mean, tehre were no text at all
[07:57] <anir> how can i change the directory from the command prompt??
[07:57] <Chrisu> there were only symbols
[07:57] <anir> intelikey, hello
[07:57] <Toran> crimsun: looking in /dev, there is no dsp1 x_x
[07:57] <sethk> Toran, /dev/dsp  (without the 1) is common
[07:57] <intelikey> anir cd dir/
[07:58] <Chrisu> symbols such as faces, and cards...    wierd symbols
[07:58] <docgnome> Is there a page which talks about how to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy?
[07:58] <liable> Chrisu: paste your menu.lst again, and you're output from fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:58] <anir> intelikey, for exam ple if i have to go to home.. what will be the command
[07:58] <intelikey>  cd
[07:58] <anir> intelikey, cd/home,..??
[07:58] <Chrisu> ok
[07:58] <sethk> anir, cd with no arguments.  Alternates include   cd $HOME   and cd ~
[07:58] <intelikey> no just cd
[07:58] <sethk> anir, there is no command cd/home.
[07:58] <anir> okay thank you
[07:59] <sethk> anir, without a space, cd/home is a single command which doesn't exist
[07:59] <sethk> anir, plus remember that a unix filename cannot have a forward slash
[07:59] <sethk> anir, and in real computers the switch flag is -, not /
[08:00] <Chrisu> ok, this is my menu.lst:          http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6186
[08:00] <anir> whay is this error.."Details: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)"
[08:00] <Karina18> my fotolog http://www.fotolog.cl/Senicienta/1851858
[08:00] <Toran> How do I get quod libet to play mp3s?
[08:00] <Karina18> posteen thank you
[08:00] <Toran> All my other stuff can play them.
[08:01] <intelikey> but file names can have back slach in them.
[08:01] <sethk> anir, you ran something (which you didn't tell us) which in turn tried to run a process called realplay, but did not find the program realplay in the search path
[08:01] <Chrisu> liable.     I personally have no real desire to put a backslash into a file name   :)
[08:02] <anir> sethk, .:) ye si have i have made some mistake whjile installing.. let me try again.. i am amature..lol
[08:02] <blanky> i bet taht's porn, what she gave
[08:02] <docgnome> When I want to upgrade to Breezy from Hoary, do I just change the distrobution to breezy, then reload the sources and mark all upgrades?
[08:02] <Chrisu> What was the command to open menu.lst and be writeble ?
[08:03] <blanky> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:03] <Chrisu> From nwo on, I should take notes of every command I'm using.
[08:03] <liable> Chrisu: write this down for future reference
[08:03] <blanky> Chrisu, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:03] <kaffeend> :D
[08:03] <blanky> sudo = root power, gedit = text editor
[08:03] <liable> Chrisu: mkdir /rescue && mount /dev/hda4 /rescue
[08:03] <blanky> sudo allows you to write to the file
[08:04] <intelikey> and all the newbeez did a /exec -o cat /dev/urandom
[08:04] <anir> sethk, i have followed the steps as given .. but why is the error message.. how can i rectify?
[08:04] <liable> Chrisu: vim /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:04] <rob1> nope.. not porn by the looks
[08:04] <kaffeend> crimsun I managed to pause the screen at what I hope is the right place
[08:04] <liable> Chrisu: you have to umount it first though!
[08:04] <sethk> anir, my first guess is that it was installed in /usr/local/bin, and /usr/local/bin is not in your PATH
[08:04] <sethk> anir, do    "type realplayer"  (I think it is realplayer; whatever the file is called) and see if it is found
[08:05] <Chrisu> alright
[08:05] <sethk> anir, if not, try    ls /usr/local/bin/realplayer
[08:05] <sethk> anir, do   echo $PATH  to look at your search path
[08:05] <Chrisu> man! vim /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst is for creating a new one !! ><
[08:05] <Chrisu> haha... ******** taking note of that *********
[08:06] <crimsun> kaffeend: as long as your motherboard recognizes it
[08:06] <kaffeend> crimsun I dunno about that, but I wrote down some details anyway
[08:06] <crimsun> kaffeend: shoot.
[08:07] <kaffeend> well, I only found 1 device on the PCI Bus that was Multimedia
[08:07] <kaffeend> Vendor is 1106
[08:07] <anir> sethk, while specifying the path while installing do i have to use "[ ] "
[08:07] <sethk> anir, no
[08:07] <anir> ok
[08:07] <kaffeend> crimsun: Device is 3059
[08:07] <Chrisu> liable. I;m lost again..
[08:07] <anir> sethk, i have installed in /usr/bin/RealPlayer
[08:07] <Toran> How do I get quod libet to play mp3s? All of my other music players play them...
[08:08] <Chrisu> How do I open menu.lst ?
[08:08] <kaffeend> crimsun: am I heading in the right direction here?
[08:08] <sethk> anir, then either you mistyped the error message, or you ran realplay instead of RealPlayer
[08:08] <liable> Chrisu: did the mount command work?
[08:08] <Chrisu> it seem like it
[08:08] <sethk> kaffeend, there is only one device on the PCI bus.  A PCI bus device might list "unidentified", but it will never be missing
[08:08] <liable> Chrisu: ls /rescue/boot/grub
[08:08] <sethk> kaffeend, so could the device be disabled in the bios?
[08:08] <anir> sethk, i am trying to open it from appliction>sound & video> realplayer
[08:09] <kaffeend> sethk not that I could see
[08:09] <sethk> anir, then right click on that menu, select properties, and see where it is trying to find it
[08:09] <Chrisu> ls: /rescue/boot/grub: No such file or directory
[08:09] <sethk> kaffeend, lspci _will_ show every device on the PCI bus, regardless of whether the kernel can identify it, or not
[08:09] <liable> Chrisu: then the mount command didnt work..
[08:09] <sethk> kaffeend, so if it isn't listed, you have to figure out why
[08:10] <crimsun> kaffeend: that's a bit vague, but we can shoot in the dark
[08:10] <Chrisu> ..
[08:10] <liable> Chrisu: mount
[08:10] <Chrisu> how was it ?
[08:10] <crimsun> kaffeend: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[08:10] <skar> pussfeller: thanks eog is what i needed
[08:10] <liable> Chrisu: does it say /dev/hda4 is mounted on rescue?
[08:10] <Chrisu> I mean, wha do I need to do ?
[08:10] <anir> sethk, while right clicking .. no properties..:(
[08:10] <Chrisu> no, it dpsn't say that.
[08:10] <liable> Chrisu: mkdir /rescue
[08:10] <kaffeend> well that did nothing
[08:11] <liable> Chrisu: mount /dev/hda4 /rescue
[08:11] <Chrisu> mkdir: cannot create directory `/rescue': File exists
[08:11] <liable> Chrisu: ok, then just the mount command bit then
[08:11] <kaffeend> sethk: what if I disable the AC97 controller?
[08:11] <Chrisu> ccalright
[08:11] <Chrisu> alright
[08:12] <sethk> kaffeend, if it is disabled in the BIOS, then lspci will not list it
[08:12] <Chrisu> :)
[08:12] <crimsun> kaffeend: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:12] <liable> Chrisu: now try ls /rescue/boot
[08:12] <kaffeend> 0 [V8237          ] : VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[08:12] <kaffeend>                      VIA 8237 with ALC655 at 0xdc00, irq 22
[08:12] <Chrisu> alright
[08:12] <crimsun> kaffeend: lsmod output onto pastebin
[08:13] <kaffeend> ok
[08:13] <kaffeend> !pastebin
[08:13] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:13] <docgnome> Does anyone know of a webpage that describes how to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[08:13] <liable> Chrisu: vim /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:13] <sethk> I just installed a printer and printed a file in less than 2 minutes.  :)
[08:13] <Chrisu> ok
[08:13] <liable> sethk: gotta be a first on linux :P
[08:13] <Chrisu> got this
[08:13] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6187
[08:14] <anir> ok tell me how do i remove the installed realplayer sethk
[08:14] <anir> not the bin file..
[08:14] <liable> Chrisu: now the vim one..
[08:14] <mrkoje> sethk,  I also installed a printer and within minutes it was printing on Ubuntu.... that never happened for me before
[08:14] <Wilf> why doesn't rhythmbox let you change the artist and title of songs?
[08:14] <kaffeend> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6188
[08:14] <Chrisu> ok.
[08:14] <Chrisu> Here it is:         http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6189
[08:14] <holycow> http://www.hamachi.cc/download  <-- wow,this looks cool
[08:14] <liable> Wilf: because you didnt write/sing it! :P
[08:15] <Wilf> itunes did :|
[08:15] <Wilf> and winamp
[08:15] <Wilf> and everything else windows :|
[08:15] <RON2255> Hey Any one there I got problem with samsung scx 4216f printer
[08:15] <liable> Chrisu: so go to the start of your kernels, and change (hd1,2) to (hd0,3)
[08:15] <sethk> mrkoje, once you have a CUPS server up and running, the linux clients are a breeze.  Change one line in /etc/cups/client.conf, and the system finds the printer for you.
[08:16] <crimsun> kaffeend: cat /proc/asound/devices --> pastebin
[08:17] <Chrisu> o
[08:17] <jenda> Is there an easy way to edit pdfs in Ubuntu
[08:17] <Chrisu> ok
[08:17] <Chrisu> got it.
[08:17] <Chrisu> now ? :)
[08:17] <liable> save and reboot
[08:17] <Chrisu> ok.
[08:17] <Chrisu> I'll be back ;)
[08:18] <Amaranth> jenda: Not really.
[08:18] <paulproteus|lapt> jenda: The only way I know is to open them up in The GIMP.
[08:18] <paulproteus|lapt> That's not an "easy way", sadly.
[08:18] <Amaranth> jenda: Unless Acrobat works in WINE I don't know of any editors.
[08:18] <Amaranth> jenda: And Acrobat is _expensive_.
[08:18] <jenda> Amaranth: I know... :(
[08:18] <kaffeend> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6190
[08:18] <jenda> paulproteus|lapt: GIMP is fine :)
[08:19] <jenda> I know.
[08:19] <crimsun> kaffeend: you need to make sure the bios is assigning the sb live an irq, because it's not being recognized.
[08:19] <kaffeend> :s
[08:19] <Packing_Kaiser> jenda: do you need to edit the pdf, or get the text out?
[08:20] <crimsun> kaffeend: you can either force that physical slot to be assigned a particular irq in bios, or you can try physically moving the card
[08:20] <RON2255> How do i install Samsung scx 4216f is there is any driver for that
[08:20] <kaffeend> crimsun: I'm ot of my depth already
[08:20] <Packing_Kaiser> RON2255: check what it says at linuxprinting.org
[08:20] <kaffeend> I'll move the card to another slot
[08:20] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone help me set up my mircophone in ubuntu?
[08:20] <RON2255> Thanks
[08:20] <sethk> kaffeend, did you do  lspci   and verify that it is listed?
[08:20] <crimsun> kaffeend: sorry, but I need to go to bed. If someone else isn't able to help you resolve it, ping me later this evening (Mon Dec 26)
[08:21] <kaffeend> crimsun: no worries - and thanks mate :D g'night
[08:21] <kaffeend> sethk yep and it said AC97
[08:21] <jenda> Packing_Kaiser: Edit the text in rather complex presentations. It doesn't necessarily have to be pdf - I can ask them to  make it a different format. Is there any such software for Ubuntu (free)?
[08:21] <sethk> kaffeend, ok, that verifies that it's enabled in the BIOS
[08:22] <kaffeend> sethk - that's the onboard tho
[08:22] <sethk> kaffeend, and it isn't an IRQ Issue
[08:22] <sethk> kaffeend, ok, you don't want the on board?
[08:22] <DjDarkman> how can i use my microphone in ubuntu?
[08:22] <kaffeend> hell no :P
[08:22] <Packing_Kaiser> jenda: hm. not sure. you can export with openoffice, but not edit
[08:22] <kaffeend> I have a Creative SB Live! 5.1
[08:22] <sethk> kaffeend, in that case, go into the BIOS and _disable_ it
[08:22] <kaffeend> why would I use onboard?
[08:22] <jenda> Packing_Kaiser: Ah well
[08:22] <kaffeend> sethk ok
[08:22] <kaffeend> brb
[08:23] <Packing_Kaiser> :|
[08:23] <DjDarkman> how can i use my microphone in ubuntu?
[08:23] <sethk> DjDarkman, plug it into the little hole
[08:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> as a curious paperweight, perhaps
[08:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> ;-)
[08:23] <DjDarkman> sethk, ok next?
[08:23] <sethk> DjDarkman, :)  turn up the level.  do you know how to set the level?
[08:24] <Chrisu> okkk. Now I feel like an idior ><
[08:24] <Chrisu> aha
[08:24] <holycow> jenda, you dont 'edit' pdf files, you 'create them'
[08:24] <sethk> DjDarkman, I installed skype on mine yesterday and used the mic for the first time, and that's all I needed to do
[08:24] <holycow> and yeah as Packing_Kaiser said, openoffice is the standard way to create them
[08:24] <Chrisu> I'm back again. :)
[08:24] <DjDarkman> yes ,but it doesn`t seem to work and i`m confused ,i don`t understand wich sound system is ubuntu using
[08:24] <sethk> holycow, you can edit a pdf file is you have the right program
[08:24] <DjDarkman> that`s my provlem sethk ,my skype doesn`t work
[08:24] <sethk> DjDarkman, disable everything that you don't want ubuntu to use.  It will make your life much easier.
[08:25] <Chrisu> liable. I'm back
[08:25] <sethk> DjDarkman, if you only have one sound system enabled, then you only have one little hole to plug the mic into.  :)
[08:25] <DjDarkman> how can i disable esd?
[08:25] <liable> Chrisu: yes, and what was the error now?
[08:25] <Chrisu> Hoe you didn't get tired of me. You are the most helpful plp I've found voer here :)
[08:25] <Chrisu> well, the same error
[08:25] <Chrisu> only symbols
[08:25] <DjDarkman> brb
[08:25] <liable> Chrisu: ok, paste the file again :)
[08:26] <Chrisu> Maybe I didn't save the manu correctly...
[08:26] <jenda> I know about OO.org, no prob. But I need a good format to communicate with the print-works... and a good 'nix prog to create and edit.
[08:26] <liable> prolly
[08:26] <Chrisu> mount /dev/hda4 /rescue
[08:26] <holycow> jenda, you are exporting print related material to pdf?
[08:26] <Chrisu> oops
[08:26] <sethk> jenda, there are more free programs that manipulate ps than pdf
[08:26] <holycow> if that is the case consider scribus
[08:27] <kaffeend> okies, sethk I've disabled AC97 onboard in the BIOS
[08:28] <sethk> kaffeend, ok, now verify that you can see the sound blaster with lspci
[08:28] <kaffeend> tried that
[08:28] <sethk> kaffeend, it is there, or it isn't?