[03:55] <syn-ack> Is there a bug with Xubuntu Lucid where you can't use dual screens with an Intel chipset?
[04:06] <abhifx> please someone help me.. plymouth is eating  60% + 40% cpu...plz
[08:22] <owen1> after the upgrade to lucid i see the desktop and the mouse. but the login screen doesn't show up so i can't do anything (in karmic i used to text-based login). any tips?
[08:24] <gottto> you could   ctrl+alt+f2   login then do   killall v X    and then    startx
[08:25] <gottto> killall -v X I meant
[08:26] <LaPetite> Saliut all :)
[08:26] <owen1> gottto: yeah, another problem i have is i use wireless keyboard. and after the upgrade it's not working so maybe i should get a regular keyboard first..
[08:27] <gottto> that would help... :]
[08:27] <LaPetite> I need a little help with BlueTooth. In my notebook I don't have internet so it's nessecarry to me now. Maybe someone have good manual or can send me somewhere, because google wont help me now :/
[08:27] <gottto> !bluetooth | LaPetite
[08:28] <LaPetite> Thank you :)
[08:28] <gottto> np :]
[08:29] <owen1> i am thinking of replacing xubuntu with ubuntu server + xfce. any thoughts?
[08:30] <gottto> owen1: I did that and I think it is quicker - make sure you d/load the generic kernel if you aren't using server h/ware
[08:30] <gottto> owen1: there is the minimal install as well
[08:30] <gottto> !minimal
[08:32] <owen1> what is this 'generic kernel' and what do u mean by 'server h/ware'?
[08:35] <LaPetite> If I use this "apt-get" I need internet, yes?
[08:36] <LaPetite> Or maybe in CD exist that things?
[08:36] <gottto> servers use specific h/ware and the server kernel is set up to support them - the generic handles the desktop type comps
[08:36] <gottto> owen1: ^^
[08:37] <gottto> LaPetite: you can set up synaptic to use a cd to install stuff
[08:37] <gottto> !synaptic
[08:37] <gottto> !aptoncd
[08:40] <owen1> gottto: all i see is option to choose 64 or 32 bit - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server
[08:41] <LaPetite> gottto, I have change some setting that synaptic use CD not intrenet or it by default using CD for program intall?
[08:42] <gottto> owen1: yep that's right - choose the one that best suits your h/ware
[08:43] <owen1> gottto: sure. why do u think it's faster than xubuntu? i will have x and xfce so it sounds the same.
[08:43] <gottto> LaPetite: you have to set it up for the cd - from the package menu
[08:44] <LaPetite> I found that option, but it fails.. E: Failed to mount the cdrom. (Cdrom is loades, I see cdrom in media. Any ideas?
[08:44] <gottto> owen1: seems to have less things running as default - it uses less mem according to conky
[08:45] <owen1> gottto: great. it might be similar to debian
[08:45] <LaPetite> oziukai2.
[08:45] <LaPetite> wrong channel
[09:32] <Kangarooo> hello. something strange happened to one of updates. I put to update and it says it needs 2gb to dl files or to install. don't remember. so I remove files and got 2.8 gb free then got one update of one file then pressed upgrade. it then tells me it will use 1gb don't remember of what. it installs asked for 3 files to be replaced wifi and copying ability lost (only while updateting). after restart I have no flash working 1.8 gb free and have default xfce and
[09:33] <Kangarooo> splash screen of xubuntu installed but workplace is xfce default.
[09:35] <gottto> Kangarooo: sounds like you upgradedd to the latest release there
[09:35] <Kangarooo> hsould I reinstall xubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-default-settings ? and why after update I've lost 1gb
[09:35] <Kangarooo> ok just now I regained 0.9 gb by pressing delete cahced packages
[09:35] <gottto> yep
[09:35] <Kangarooo> gottto: that's a known bug?
[09:36] <gottto> that you upgraded the distro?
[09:36] <Kangarooo> that xubuntu look is not installed on upgrade but usual xfce <-bug
[09:37] <Kangarooo> gottto: so I reinstall xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-default-settings?
[09:37] <LaPetite> How is called in /etc/network/interfaces DNS address? I can't find it. I writed address, netmask and gateway. Now I have to write two DNS address, but can't find how it's called.. .
[09:37] <gottto> Kangarooo: you could try the xubuntu-desktop reinstall
[09:37] <Kangarooo> ok\
[09:38] <gottto> LaPetite: ifconfig in terminal will tell the address you're using
[09:39] <Kangarooo> gottto: that took only 18kb and dint change anthing :) I reinstalled in synaptic by pressing reinstall and apply
[09:39] <gottto> Kangarooo: I don't understand the issue - it doesn't look right?
[09:42] <Kangarooo> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot685.php yes\
[09:45] <Kangarooo> I made updates in first day the release was available to other 2pcs and they wen fine exept for settings menu lost a lot items and thunar made a lot shortcuts in left side bar with links to home folder contained folders.
[09:48] <Kangarooo> but on laptop this I didn't got. thunar didn't made links. that's repaired I think. setings I have all. but I don't have xubuntu look and also some icons of programms changed to maybe their default but I had different icons for some programms like midori and Autokey and Qwit and update manager and sources
[09:50] <Kangarooo> ah but for thouse maybe I had xubuntu beta 2 don't remember
[09:51] <Kangarooo> laptop had xubuntu 9.04 and it was upgraded till now
[09:51] <Kangarooo> gottto: if you saw screenshot can you say what went wrong and how to repair it?
[09:53] <gottto> Kangarooo: I was afk - I'll look at it
[09:54] <gottto> Kangarooo: that looks ok - just a diff theme?
[09:56] <lilkuz2005> hey guys ive just installed xubuntu on my old hp pavilion ze5600. i installed it with text mode, after the first boot the screen is all distorted, i need to know how to fix this, is there any hotkeys to switch the graphics or something ?
[09:57] <_Techie_> !xrandr
[09:57] <Kangarooo> gottto: I didn't change theme. I don't know witch is default theme. ill try to change that but that's not only thing what's different since upgrade. I've upgradet all pcs witch I have acces to work and home and they didn't change theme but they lost some settings items but on this laptop I didn't lost them. so I change in appearance? witch is deault?
[09:59] <gottto> Kangarooo: I'm not on 10.04 now so can't check - someone else know the default theme?
[09:59] <Kangarooo> ah I found correct icons- elementary xubuntu
[10:02] <lilkuz2005> can anyone help me out real quick ?
[10:02] <Kangarooo> lilkuz2005: don't ask to ask just ask
[10:02] <lilkuz2005> ii have
[10:02] <Mantelis> Hey, it's  LaPetite.
[10:03] <Mantelis> I configuredmy network, but FireFox is still not working.
[10:03] <lilkuz2005> i need help with a graphics issue on my laptop, the screen is all distorted and i cant read anything, i need to know how to fix it
[10:03] <lilkuz2005> i installed the 7.10 alt install disk on it
[10:03] <_Techie_> Mantelis, are you using static ip's?
[10:03] <Mantelis> Yes.
[10:03] <Mantelis> My DNS can be wrong?
[10:03] <_Techie_> most likely
[10:03] <Kangarooo> gottto: and here's how looks xfce menu. and its not as it was http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-198.php
[10:03] <_Techie_> try pinging an ip
[10:04] <Mantelis> I edited /etc/resolv.conf
[10:04] <Mantelis> And writed there DNS.
[10:04] <Mantelis> Maybe file is wrong?
[10:04] <_Techie_> Mantelis, h is default theme. ill try to change that but that's not only thing what's different since upgrade. I've upgradet all pcs witch I have acces to work and home and they didn't change theme but they lost some settings items but on this laptop I didn't lost them. so I change in appearance? witch is deault?
[10:04] <Mantelis> I tried ping google, it\s working.
[10:04] <_Techie_> whoops, wrong paste
[10:04] <Mantelis> Anyway, I'm here over my laptop.
[10:04] <_Techie_> Mantelis, www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:04] <_Techie_> ping the ip
[10:04] <_Techie_> hrmm
[10:05] <_Techie_> so pinging the domain name works?
[10:05] <Mantelis> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=389 ms
[10:05] <gottto> Kangarooo: that seems to look ok - it must just be a diff theme
[10:05] <Mantelis> Works, anyway how I said I sitting here over my xubunt.
[10:06] <Mantelis> So internet is working.
[10:06] <Mantelis> I just can't go to WWW
[10:06] <_Techie_> hold up
[10:06] <Mantelis> Maybe it's firefox problem?
[10:06] <_Techie_> was that pinging via the ip or the domain name?
[10:06] <Mantelis> ip
[10:06] <_Techie_> try ping via domain name
[10:06] <Mantelis> www.google.lt
[10:07] <Mantelis> 64 bytes from mu-in-f106.1e100.net (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=52.2 ms
[10:07] <_Techie_> hrmm
[10:07] <Mantelis> And..
[10:07] <Mantelis> In me rigt side near clock
[10:07] <_Techie_> have you restarted your network daemon since you set up your static ip's?
[10:07] <Mantelis> It's network computersshowing X
[10:07] <Mantelis> What?
[10:07] <Mantelis> I just did ifup/down eth0
[10:08] <Mantelis> and ifconfig eth0 down/up
[10:08] <_Techie_> do this
[10:08] <_Techie_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:08] <Mantelis> Did, checking FF
[10:08] <Kangarooo> gottto: I think I found theyr both albatross. in apearance and in windows settings. but menu doesn't change to xubuntu menu.
[10:09] <Mantelis> Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
[10:09] <_Techie_> under the file menu, untick work offline
[10:09] <Mantelis> Ooops.
[10:09] <Mantelis> It's working!
[10:09] <Mantelis> :P
[10:09] <_Techie_> gratz
[10:09] <Mantelis> Sorry, I didin't know that I need do that :o
[10:10] <Mantelis> Thanks for help! :)
[10:10] <_Techie_> no problem
[10:12] <Kangarooo> gottto: I found the menu can be changed- it has properties and correct is in xdg-xubuntu folder menu
[10:14] <gottto> Kangarooo: glad you worked it out :]
[10:15] <Mantelis> Mmm.. How install .deb files?
[10:15] <Mantelis> (I wanna install Skype)
[10:15] <_Techie_> dpkg -i if i remember correctly
[10:15] <_Techie_> or use gdebi
[10:16] <gottto> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb
[10:16] <Mantelis> Thanks, installing.
[10:16] <Mantelis> :)
[10:17] <Mantelis> Mhmh.. Package libqtcore4 is not installed
[10:18] <Mantelis> What I should do now?
[10:18] <_Techie_> sudo apt-get install libqtcore4
[10:20] <Mantelis> Package libqtgui4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:20] <Mantelis> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:20] <Mantelis> is only available from another source
[10:20] <Mantelis> E: Package libqtgui4 has no installation candidate
[10:20] <Mantelis> I gettint this not first time.
[10:20] <Mantelis> Now I removed CD and still getting that thing.
[10:21] <gottto> apt-cache search libqtcore4   might show what it comes with
[10:23] <Mantelis> nothing
[10:24] <gottto> !find libqtcore4
[10:24] <gottto> !info libqtcore4
[10:25] <gottto> it should be there
[10:26] <gottto> Mantelis: which xubutu version r u using
[10:26] <gottto> ?
[10:26] <Mantelis> newest
[10:26] <Mantelis> 10.4
[10:26] <Mantelis> I think
[10:26] <Mantelis> downloaded yesterday
[10:26] <gottto> lsb-release   should tell
[10:26] <gottto> yep
[10:27] <gottto> Mantelis: do   sudo apt-get update   the look again
[10:27] <Mantelis> o
[10:27] <Mantelis> ok
[10:27] <gottto> then*
[10:27] <Kangarooo1> gottto: what package bug is that on update settings changed? update-manager ?
[10:28] <gottto> Kangarooo1: I would suppose so...
[10:28] <Kangarooo1> ok ill put info about this what I had in LP with screenshots
[10:30] <Mantelis> gottto, thanks now installing missing packages. :)\
[10:30] <gottto> great :]
[10:33] <Kangarooo1> o ouh. another bug- my usb flash not working and in media I see one file I've never seen .hal-mtab
[10:34] <Kangarooo1> light is showing on usb flash but its not popping up in xubuntu
[10:34] <gottto> Kangarooo1: does the usb show in   /etc/mtab   ?
[10:36] <gottto> Kangarooo1: did you do the cd check when booting it?
[10:36] <Mantelis> gottto, now I getting some other missing packages (libqt4-xml, libqt4-network, libqt4-dbus) and no one I can't install like last packages. Maybe I downloaded wrong  package for Skype.? I downloaded for ubuntu. But I using xubuntu.. So maybe it's different. Maybe I should use static?
[10:37] <Kangarooo1> gottto: I installed from cd 1y ago on this laptop and yes chacked and md5sumed iso also. ugraded to 10.04 yesterday.
[10:37] <Mantelis> s/for skype/ of skype
[10:38] <Kangarooo1> gottto: it loks for me that usb flash dongle not showing in there http://pastebin.com/h3a3yMPi
[10:38] <gottto> Mantelis: there is a how to for skype
[10:38] <gottto> !skype
[10:39] <gottto> Kangarooo1: does it show in   sudo fdisk -l   ?
[10:41] <Kangarooo1> Mantelis: my skype is working. I installed it with deb from skype.com you are trying to install it on 10.04 ? the ubuntu package 8.04 or 8.10 (don't remember) is correct from skype page to install on xuubuntu.
[10:43] <Mantelis> Kangarooo1, yes I'm trying on 10.04.
[10:44] <Kangarooo1> gottto: wow this is interesting. when unpluged it shows http://pastebin.com/rCEU2Hnk . when pluged it shows http://pastebin.com/wfNezSxs
[10:45] <Kangarooo1> Mantelis: then just dl that and open and install it will install all required packages
[10:46] <gottto> Kangarooo1: you can do   sudo mkdir -v /media/sdb && sudo mount -v /dev/sdb /media/sdb
[10:46] <Kangarooo1> while flash is in or while out?
[10:46] <Mantelis> Kangarooo1, it don't - Broken dependencies..
[10:46] <Kangarooo1> Mantelis: maybe try update manager to get all latest packages and latest lists
[10:47] <Mantelis> How I should do that?
[10:47] <Kangarooo1> Mantelis: applications settings update manager and then refresh
[10:48] <Mantelis> In settings section not exist "update manager"
[10:49] <Kangarooo1> uo in system my bad
[10:50] <Kangarooo1> gottto: I did that while flash is in and from media/sdb I got In it but on removing folder didn't removed and on putting in again its not auto loading and also not showing in that sdb
[10:50] <Kangarooo1> *eeem on removing flash
[10:51] <gottto> Kangarooo1: is the thunar volume manager installed?
[10:51] <Kangarooo1> yes and working for all other
[10:55] <Kangarooo1> WOW. wiat. maybe not. ill try dvd. at least in settings it shows its enabled and nothing has changed there after update but dvds are not opening in vlc as I have set them to do
[10:56] <Kangarooo1> ah ok I thing volume manager is working but nothing is mounting to media
[10:57] <Kangarooo1> couse maybe volume manger check media folder and if there noting new it doesn't show. (just guessing)
[10:58] <Kangarooo1> bug I got dvd playing with vlc from vlc play and selecting dvd and it in vlc shows it opened dvd:///dev/sr0/
[10:58] <Kangarooo1> and in media/cdrom dvd can't be seen
[10:58] <Kangarooo1> not showing up
[11:09] <dahaic> hi, is it somehow possible to setup xfce to not switch focus on popuped windows?
[11:09] <dahaic> for example update manager usually steals focus, just as I am writing something, and its quite annoying :(
[11:15] <Mantelis> Thanks Kangarool for update manager.
[11:15] <Mantelis> Skype Installed sucessful.
[11:15] <Mantelis> :)
[11:18] <mr_pouit> dahaic: in the "window manager tweaks" settings' dialog, try to enable "focus "stealing prevention" (second tab), and selects "do nothing" in the radio button
[11:19] <dahaic> ah, thanks very much :)
[11:28] <Mantelis> !camera
[11:28] <Mantelis> !cam
[11:29] <Sysi> you can talk to ubottu on query too
[11:31] <Mantelis> In public is better because some people can say some aditional information for that
[11:31] <Mantelis> But if that is problem I can speak in private.
[11:32] <Mantelis> :)
[11:58] <Mantelis> Go to main menu, System, Preferences, Menus: Applications, Internet, Items: Skype, Properties, and replace the Command with
[11:58] <Mantelis> Where is that?
[11:58] <Mantelis> "Main menu"
[12:00] <gottto> top left corner
[12:05] <Mantelis> Didin't find, any  way VLC streaming my cam!
[12:07] <Mantelis> Next mision - Connect that with Skype. (Skype finds  device, but showing nothing on test.)
[12:07] <gottto> there's #videolan - they might know
[12:08] <Mantelis> I don't need VideoLan. In VLC my camera works fine. Only in skype no. :)
[12:13] <gottto> Mantelis> Didin't find, any  way VLC streaming my cam!   gottto> there's #videolan - they might know
[12:18] <Mantelis> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[12:18] <Mantelis> Solution found
[12:46] <Mantelis> gottto, help me. Can't still find how to editskype shourtcut which are in Applications, Network.
[12:47] <bkw> I have problems with moving objects on my panel. I'm running 10.04.
[12:48] <bkw> I right-click and move, but the icons doesn't seem to move. Am I doing anything wrong?
[12:55] <Mantelis> !bluetooth
[15:04] <Mantelis> Damn, my Xubunut see Bluetooth fine, but still not work. Maybe someone can loo here - http://paste.org/pastebin/view/18242 - and give some advice?
[15:04] <Psilocybin_Elf> Hmmmmmmm..how do I request to join an invite-only channel?
[15:06] <hatake_kakashi> Psilocybin_Elf, ask the op in that channel
[15:06] <bazhang> register and identify
[15:07] <bazhang> !register > Psilocybin_Elf
[15:56] <Psilocybin_Elf> cheers
[15:57] <Psilocybin_Elf> How do  i read a private message?
[16:01] <simplicity-> excuse me?
[16:01] <Psilocybin_Elf> wrong channel sorry
[16:42] <arthurjohnson> I have a tough one for you, whats the service that puts notifications in the black box in the middle of the screen?
[16:42] <arthurjohnson> For some odd reason one of my Xubuntu boxes is showing notifications at the bottom right
[16:43] <charlie-tca> notify-osd ?
[16:43] <arthurjohnson> notify-osd: command not found
[16:43] <arthurjohnson> aha!
[16:43] <arthurjohnson> notification-properties
[16:44] <arthurjohnson> Hm. Nope, thats not it.  Just has options for the corners
[16:45] <knome> afaik there's no gui way to modify that
[16:48] <charlie-tca> what version you have installed on that box?
[16:49] <charlie-tca> Yay! #ubuntu+1 is back for maverick today
[16:52] <arthurjohnson> haha
[16:53] <arthurjohnson> 10.04, but it was upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 with Xfce4 only to Ubuntu 10.04, then xubuntu-desktop was installed.
[16:53] <arthurjohnson> Its seen lots play
[16:53] <charlie-tca> If that is 9.10 or 10.04, you need to install notify-osd package to have the notices display in the top right
[16:57] <arthurjohnson> meh. I've been considering reloading this box anyway.
[16:58] <arthurjohnson> I can't figure it out.  notify-osd is at the latest version.
[16:59] <charlie-tca> Some applications will still override the new notifications.
[16:59] <charlie-tca> Do all notices show up in the wrong corner, or just some?
[17:00] <arthurjohnson> They all show up in the lower right corner
[17:09] <ochosi> arthurjohnson, are you sure you don't use xfce's notification system?
[17:09] <ochosi> arthurjohnson, that would be xfce4-notifyd
[17:17] <charlie-tca> Good point, ochosi
[17:18] <ochosi> i think it was default in 9.04 or smthg
[17:25] <netharis> hey guys, does any of you know what is the matter with fglrx @ 10.04?
[17:27] <cevin> I'm trying to reistall Kubuntu but when I get to set up partition there is nothing in the box to install it to. How do I  fix so I can reinstall?
[17:27] <charlie-tca> netharis: AFAIK, nothing
[17:28] <charlie-tca> cevin: might try #kubuntu
[17:29] <Mantelis> Bluetooth fixed - Working very well with BlueMan.
[17:30] <Mantelis> Maybe someone can tell me a program name for Wireless, Wi-Fi?
[17:30] <bazhang> wicd?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> Network manager ? is default
[17:30] <netharis> @ charlie-tca i can't seem to run any 3d apps
[17:31] <charlie-tca> netharis: maybe you have a problem, then. But overall, it is fine
[17:31] <charlie-tca> netharis: have you installed any hardware drivers?
[17:32] <Mantelis> charlie-tca, how tostart network manager? I can\t find that in applications
[17:32] <charlie-tca> It is installed by default, should be an icon in the panel.
[17:33] <Mantelis> Hmm.. I can\t see that...
[17:33] <charlie-tca> it is called 'network-manager-applet' in 9.10
[17:34] <charlie-tca> try 'network-manger' in 10.04
[17:34] <Mantelis> not found
[17:35] <charlie-tca> what version of Xubuntu?
[17:35] <Mantelis> 10.04
[17:35] <charlie-tca> apt-cache policy network-manager
[17:35] <Mantelis> It writes that I have it
[17:36] <Mantelis> Installed: 0.8-0ubuntu3
[17:36] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[17:36] <Mantelis> Much more text is, but maybe I don'p paste here
[17:36] <charlie-tca> back to bazhang's suggestion?
[17:37] <Mantelis> mmm
[17:37] <Mantelis> What?
[17:37] <Mantelis> :)
[17:37] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get install wicd
[17:37] <Mantelis> Ok :)
[18:39] <Mantelis> !wireless
[18:39] <Mantelis> !wi-fi
[19:38] <Mantelis> I can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:38] <Mantelis> Maybe is other file?
[19:38] <Mantelis> For grub edit?
[19:41] <TheSheep> Mantelis: /etc/default/grub
[21:08] <lilkuz2005> hey guys i need some help with a graphics driver issue on a hp pavilion ze5600. ive installed xubuntu 7.10 alt install, the picture was all distorted, so i tried to change some things in the xorg.conf and now i cant get startx to work
[21:14] <Sysi> 7.10 is out of support propably
[21:14] <charlie-tca> as of 2010-04-30
[21:15] <lilkuz2005> well i was trying to run an older distro on an older/slower laptop
[21:15] <charlie-tca> no, 2009-04-30
[21:17] <lilkuz2005> im getting fatal error noscreens found
[21:27] <charlie-tca> Have you tried the 10.04 desktop cd to see if it will work?
[21:27] <charlie-tca> oops, gone
[22:55] <Arpad2> how can be made a multisession disk in brasero?
[23:06] <linuxn00b> hello everyone
[23:06] <linuxn00b> anyone present?
[23:07] <linuxn00b> (as in not afk)
[23:07] <Sysi> !ask
[23:07] <linuxn00b> oh great
[23:08] <linuxn00b> ok it's just a small question regarding downloading xubuntu via torrent
[23:08] <linuxn00b> I noticed there is a desktop folder and an alternate folder
[23:08] <linuxn00b> what's the difference?
[23:12] <linuxn00b> ah wait I think I found the answer: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/
[23:13] <linuxn00b> I'm going to an ubuntu install party tomorrow, but I'm wondering which one to download
[23:14] <linuxn00b> can I possibly go wrong with any one of them?
[23:15] <linuxn00b> (I have 2GB RAM so RAM will certainly not be an issue)
[23:17] <knome> linuxn00b, i'd go with desktop, definitely.
[23:18] <linuxn00b> ok, thx!
[23:19] <linuxn00b> so I assume the automated deply thing is not good for anything?
[23:19] <linuxn00b> *deploy
[23:19] <linuxn00b> (or at least not relevant for me)
[23:22] <linuxn00b> voila! downloading allready :)


[01:05] <AppAraat> hi, suppose you have minimal install of Ubuntu. How do you install only MATE without any additional apps? For example with XFCE it's "sudo apt install xubuntu-core^"
[01:41] <mate|89388> hello i am trying to update the sotware repositories on mate and get  a no net connection and when i try and download software i cant.  I get this msg     W:The repository 'cdrom://Ubuntu-MATE 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719) xenial Release' does not have a Release file., W:Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and
[01:41] <mate|89388>  is therefore potentially dangerous to use., W:See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details., E:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu-MATE 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719)/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be us
[01:41] <mate|89388> ed to add new CD-ROMs, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:56] <jack_herer> how do i install linux drivers on my laptop?
[05:58] <jticket> What drivers?
[10:18] <lynxlynx> Hi :D.
[10:18] <lynxlynx> I can ask something?
[10:19] <lynxlynx> I leave /home, /usr, /var, /tmp, etc as Linux Filesystem.... Is there any problem?
[10:20] <lynxlynx> I just install Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu Mate 16.04.1 (both UEFI and x64) on my 120gb SSD....
[10:20] <lynxlynx> With extends on my 1TB HDD.
[10:22] <lynxlynx> Sooo. is Ok?
[10:50] <mate2016> hi.is there any way to fix this issue? https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/cant-change-developer-options-settings/7132
[10:52] <ouroumov> Yes.


[07:25] <AlanBell> there are some changes you need to do to get it running on python 2.7
[08:15] <AlanBell> just figured out what is wrong with the header on summit, the Today link is actually supposed to be part of the main nav and it wraps onto a second line pushing down the subnav
[08:17] <AlanBell> and on the daily schedule it gets hidden behind the page-related <aside> tag
[08:18] <AlanBell> or . . . I could reset my font size and it jumps up to the top level
[08:20]  * AlanBell frowns at websites that break at non-default font sizes
[10:03] <cjohnston> AlanBell: i think your the only one that the today wraps
[10:04] <AlanBell> yeah, I had the font size up one level, didn't notice it
[10:05] <AlanBell> firefox remembers your preferred font size per site so I have been running summit like that for months
[13:08] <cjohnston> nigelb: can you please fix the crew links
[13:09] <nigelb> cjohnston: what's broken?
[13:09] <nigelb> url?
[13:09] <cjohnston> the link to the crew
[13:09] <cjohnston> on the schedule pages
[13:09] <nigelb> ah, the same problem
[13:09] <nigelb> cjohnston: fix in 1 hour is fine?
[13:09] <nigelb> starting commute home
[13:09] <cjohnston> k
[13:09] <cjohnston> ty
[13:45] <johnoxton> Hello!
[13:45] <cjohnston> hey johnoxton !
[13:45] <cjohnston> mhall119: ^^^^
[13:46] <cjohnston> nigelb: new guy from design who wants to help with summit ^
[13:46] <cjohnston> johnoxton: your help would be awesome
[13:46] <johnoxton> I must say, this is something I will do in my spare time, not as part of Canonical and my wife is going to help too
[13:46] <cjohnston> ya.. we understand
[13:46] <johnoxton> do you want to get together today/tomorrow work some stuff out?
[13:47] <cjohnston> mhall119 is also canonical
[13:47] <cjohnston> johnoxton: we can try
[13:48] <johnoxton> cjohnston: I am fairly free tomorrow and very willing, so just grab me :)
[13:49] <cjohnston> as of right now my only free spot is tomorrow at 4
[13:51] <johnoxton> cjohnston. Good for me.
[13:51] <cjohnston> ok..
[14:01] <nigelb> cjohnston: \o/
[14:02] <cjohnston> be awesome to have a design guy on our team
[14:02] <cjohnston> nigelb: we are going to meet tomorrow at 1600 est.. that doesnt fall into any sort of awake area for you does it?
[14:03] <nigelb> cjohnston: Not so bad. 1:30 am.
[14:03] <nigelb> If we can wrap up within an hour, I'm good.
[14:04] <cjohnston> ya.. it will be right before the end kenote
[14:05] <nigelb> cjohnston: cool, np.
[14:37] <mhall119> cjohnston: do you want to make an actual meeting and reserve a room?
[14:38] <cjohnston> mhall119: thats what my plan is
[14:38] <cjohnston> i just havent gotten to it
[14:38] <cjohnston> I guess i probably should
[14:38] <mhall119> cool
[14:39] <cjohnston> will you be able to go?
[14:39] <mhall119> should be
[14:39] <nigelb> cjohnston: I think it would be more productive to skype me in for this one. As long as you sit huddled near the laptop skyping me in, it should be great
[14:40] <cjohnston> blah
[14:40] <cjohnston> :-P
[14:41] <cjohnston> svwilliams: tomorrow at 4 we are going to do a summit hack session
[14:42] <svwilliams> cjohnston, I think you right about my issue being launch pad
[14:42] <svwilliams> shoot ... I have to head to a party at my in-laws before then ...
[14:42] <svwilliams> is 4 the only time?
[14:42] <cjohnston> for me yet.
[14:42] <cjohnston> yes
[14:42] <cjohnston> mhall119: can you review the crew mp please
[14:46] <cjohnston> the session is up
[14:47] <cjohnston> bonaire 6
[14:48] <nigelb> cjohnston: can we bribe elmo to connect one of the sessio mikes to your laptop?
[14:48] <cjohnston> for better pick up from the laptop?
[14:48] <nigelb> Yeah
[14:48] <cjohnston> umm
[14:48] <nigelb> the session mikes are *amazing*
[14:49] <cjohnston> mics btw
[14:49] <nigelb> cjohnston: lol. I cak skype to your phone.
[14:49] <nigelb> That's probably more efficient ^-^
[14:51] <svwilliams> Wohooo! cjohnston it installed finally
[14:52] <svwilliams> guess I hit the server at the right second to get through
[14:52] <cjohnston> yay
[14:52] <svwilliams> off to find some bitsize bugs to get my feet wet
[14:52] <svwilliams> well off to the next session first
[14:59] <nigelb> FML.
[14:59] <nigelb> render.py cleaning up is going to be EPIC.
[18:28] <cjohnston> svwilliams: change the bug status to in progress and the asignee to you
[18:28] <cjohnston> plz
[18:44] <svwilliams> cjohnston, will do
[18:44] <svwilliams> actually I may not have the permissions to ...
[18:44] <svwilliams> never mind
[18:44] <svwilliams> cjohnston, its done
[19:01] <mhall119> nigelb: don't worry about cleaning it up, just write new code to replace all it's functionality
[19:01] <nigelb> mhall119: checkout the etherpad
[19:02] <mhall119> no
[19:02] <mhall119> which etherpad?
[19:02] <nigelb> mhall119: I linked you in PM or private channel.
[19:24] <cjohnston> svwilliams: i sent you an email
[19:24] <svwilliams> ok


[01:21] <smspillaz> Trevinho: yeah I did, but I haven't had time to look into that yet :/
[05:19] <didrocks> good morning
[07:01] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:54] <ephan> At what time will Alpha 3 be released?
[09:41] <JohanSJA> hi
[09:43] <ephan> hi
[10:05] <seif> who else is watching the mubarak trial
[10:05] <seif> kim0, ?
[10:12] <andyrock> didrocks, present?
[10:13] <andyrock> i think this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/813359 has been solved in trunk
[10:13] <didrocks> hey andyrock!
[10:13] <andyrock> whit last commits...
[10:14] <didrocks> andyrock: indeed, I saw the merge requests, normally people doing the fix should set at fix committed, seems they didn't, can you please do it? :)
[10:14] <andyrock> didrocks, of course :§
[10:14] <andyrock> :)
[10:15] <didrocks> thanks andyrock! :)
[10:15] <andyrock> yw
[11:19] <kim0> seif: yeah I was
[11:19] <seif> kim0, why was?
[11:19] <seif> is it over
[11:20] <kim0> seif: http://www.aljazeera.net/channel/livestreaming?GoogleStatID=32 yeah it's analysis now
[11:21] <seif> kim0, but it will continue right
[11:21] <seif> else i am wasting my time
[11:21] <kim0> I dont think so
[11:21] <kim0> next session ba2a isA
[11:22] <seif> when is the next session
[11:22] <seif> ?
[11:22] <seif> kim0, ^
[11:22]  * kim0 says .. let's take this private
[11:35] <jjardon> mpt: hey, could I have your input about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-power/+bug/811777 ? Show the percentage is not in the indicator specification, but I can add it if the design team thinks is needed
[12:02] <om26er> jjardon, Hi! seen bug 820273 ?
[12:03] <jjardon> om26er: yeah, Its already fixed in 0.5
[12:04] <om26er> jjardon, ah great then. thx
[12:57] <om26er> kenvandine, Hi! is there a way I could remove gwibber from the messaging menu permanently , I have it in the launcher and also have the gwibber lens I dont need it in the messaging menu
[12:59] <jjardon> kenvandine: hey!, thanks for your fixes :), if you have some time: https://launchpad.net/indicator-power/trunk/0.5
[12:59] <kenvandine> jjardon, woot
[12:59] <kenvandine> next week
[13:00] <kenvandine> jjardon, frozen for alpha 3 right now
[13:00] <kenvandine> om26er not really
[13:00] <kenvandine> you could remove the launcher... but it will still update the counts there
[13:00] <jjardon> ok, sorry for the delay, I was on holidays ;)
[13:01] <om26er> kenvandine, alright, no problem
[13:04] <kenvandine> jjardon, no worries
[13:44] <mterry> Heyo, folks.  The unity lightdm greeter has indicators, but they'll need to have menu items that launch apps hidden.  Would ya'll prefer me to propose patches that do that via an environment variable or a gsettings key?
[15:00] <ephan> Hm, I'm having an issue while making an appindicator here. I can add menus to it (i'm using Python, gtk, appindicator module), but how do I make the appindicator applet itself a button and add an event to it
[15:03] <Amaranth> ephan: you don't
[15:08] <API> jaytaoko, did you see my mail?
[15:08] <API> jaytaoko, hi, btw ;)
[15:11] <ephan> Amaranth, as in it's not possible?
[15:11] <ephan> Too bad, but thanks ;)
[15:17] <jaytaoko> API: Hi
[15:18] <API> jaytaoko, in summary that mail asks two things
[15:18] <API> if it is normal that sigVisibleViewWindow are a private signal
[15:18] <API> and if I should still use that
[15:18] <API> but my mail is more complete ;)
[15:19] <jaytaoko> API: I am going to make the correction so the signal are public.
[15:19] <API> jaytaoko, ok, so first question answered ;)
[15:19] <API> and the second?
[15:19] <API> should I still use that
[15:19] <API> ?
[15:20] <API> Im answering due all this changes on the event infrastructure
[15:21] <API> jaytaoko, ^
[15:22] <jaytaoko> API: yes, you should still use those signals
[15:23] <jaytaoko> API: these signals will be renamed also, but I will keep them as macros pointing to the new names
[15:24] <API> jaytaoko, ok thanks
[15:24] <jaytaoko> API:  no problem, let me know how it goes please
[15:25] <API> jaytaoko, well, I need first to wait until those signals get public ;)
[15:27] <jaytaoko> API: sure :-D
[15:27] <jaytaoko> API: I will ping you in a bit
[16:03] <jaytaoko> API: the signals are now public.
[16:04] <API> jaytaoko, ok thanks
[16:35] <olzhas> hey guys
[16:37] <jcastro> andyrock: Trevinho: hey you guys want to meet later on today in here, get some blockages out of the way if you have them?
[16:37] <olzhas> there is no like a counterpart for the gtk_status_icon_set_from_pixbuf function in libappindicator
[16:38] <andyrock> jcastro, no problem but i should not have any blockages, but i have some question about google test and nux dnd
[17:18] <jcastro> I seem to have lost the ability to drag and drop apps to the launcher, any ideas?
[17:20] <mpt> jjardon, done
[17:20] <jjardon> mpt: thanks!
[17:22] <andyrock> jcastro, from dash to launcher?
[17:22] <jcastro> I have some custom launchers in a folder in nautilus
[17:22] <jcastro> it looks like an update removed all my custom launchers basically
[17:23] <andyrock> well, nux dnd is broken at the moment, DBO is working on it
[17:23] <jcastro> ah ok


[01:55] <jtatum> Meeting starting soon :)
[01:55] <jledbetter> yay
[01:57] <jtatum> Is there actually a netsplit happening now or is it just services?
[02:00]  * jtatum rubs his hands together..
[02:00] <jtatum> #startmeeting
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[02:00] <jtatum> Evening all! Who is here for tonight's meeting?
[02:00] <icarus81> here
[02:01] <akk> me
[02:01] <jtatum> Cool! Here's our agenda for tonight:
[02:01] <jtatum> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12July1
[02:01] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12July1 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:02] <jtatum> It's.. empty :)
[02:02] <jtatum> So, we'll move straight to the usual standing agenda
[02:02] <jtatum> #topic Upcoming events
[02:02] <jtatum> Does anyone have any upcoming events to share?
[02:03]  * jledbetter is here.
[02:04] <jtatum> There will be a Mountain View Ubuntu Hour on Thursday, 7/19. Details to be announced on-list soon.
[02:05] <jtatum> No other events? Summer months do tend to be rather quiet.
[02:05] <Corey> I will be in the bay area the week of the 9th should anyone come up with an event.
[02:06] <jtatum> That's awesome, Corey! Might want to ping the ML.
[02:07] <jtatum> OK. Moving along..
[02:07] <jtatum> #topic Any other comments, questions, suggestions or ideas
[02:08] <jtatum> Anybody? :) Everyone just outside enjoying the weather?
[02:09] <jledbetter> Yep ;)
[02:09] <icarus81> It was nice today. I didn't do much outside though.
[02:10] <akk> I went for a hike, lovely weather!
[02:10] <jtatum> It really is lovely weather, here in the bay area, anyhow.
[02:10] <akk> (a hike that required driving the convertible a fair distance to get to the trailhead :)
[02:11] <icarus81> My brother wants to go hike Mt Baldy this summer.
[02:11] <eps_> Corey: SF Ubuntu Hour on the 11th: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1829/detail/
[02:11] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[02:12] <jtatum> Thanks, eps_!
[02:12] <Corey> eps_: Yoink.
[02:12] <jtatum> And thanks for coming, folks :)
[02:12] <jtatum> #endmeeting
[02:12] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Jul  2 02:12:46 2012 UTC.
[02:12] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2012/ubuntu-us-ca.2012-07-02-02.00.moin.txt
[02:12] <jledbetter> Thanks for runnin it, jtatum
[02:25] <scientes> jledbetter, ruining what?
[02:26] <scientes> oh, runnin lol
[02:27] <jtatum> a little of both? :)
[06:35] <scientes> wait was there a meeting in here?
[06:35] <scientes> oh i see the log, pretty simple
[06:36] <scientes> can i get the bot to highlight me when meetings start?
[06:37] <scientes> ok done :)
[17:02] <jtatum> hope you had an awesome weekend, pleia2 :)
[17:03] <pleia2> jtatum: it was busy! thanks for chairing last night :)
[17:05] <jtatum> Any time.
[17:24] <kdub3_> hola channel
[17:28] <pleia2> g'day kdub3_
[18:31] <philipballew> hello kdub3_ as well