[18:02] <CosmiChaos> hiku, no chance, disabled anything compositing related and set xserver extension compositing to disabled, rebooted and tried again, still black screen with vdpau
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: no, its still firefox just a different codename
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: if you install 4.0 then remove the ppa then reinstall firefox 3.6 it will flip back
[18:02] <kanka_23> can someone help me about my installation on laptop please ?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, what was the command you used to install it , just use remove in it's po
[18:03] <BluesKaj> place
[18:03] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: couldn't find it on apt-get install amarok too :-(
[18:03] <mgolisch> can someone help me setup network sound in PA? it just doesnt work for some reason..
[18:03] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Don't do that... wait
[18:03] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I have a file, which ends in .run.  I just went "sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-254.44.run"
[18:04] <DesiArnez6> kanka_23, What are you trying to install?
[18:04] <KE1HA> DesiArnez6, if you instaled google earth with GoogleEarthLinux.bin then cd~/google-earth then sh uninstall
[18:04] <CosmiChaos> hiku, have you got libvdpau installed by package?
[18:04] <mikebeecham> this started the installtion process
[18:04] <CosmiChaos> hiku, from nvidia ppa?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> CosmiChaos: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[18:04] <DesiArnez6> Can anyone help me uninstall google Earth?
[18:04] <sehaj> hi i am not able to access my mmc in card reader
[18:04] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: "kdedestop --version" - Typr this unquote in terminal
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ok mikebeecham , do you have desktop with 256 driver ?
[18:04] <kanka_23>  DesiArnez6: ubuntu. i know how it works about partittions i did it many times to my pc. but now i have the laptop but i think there is a problem.
[18:04] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: "kdedesktop --version" - Typr this unquote in terminal
[18:04] <CosmiChaos> ActionParsnip, its about black screen and no sound even no playback at VDPAU output
[18:04] <abhijit> DesiArnez6, can you read me?
[18:04] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: yessir
[18:04] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, OK I see
[18:05] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: kdekesktop --version kdekesktop: command not found
[18:05] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, what about resolution etc ?
[18:05] <sehaj> any one
[18:05] <shmengie> Wish to upgrade rdesktop in ubuntu.  The source package is way outdated and keyboard support stinks in the current flavor.
[18:05] <sehaj> who can help with mmc card reader
[18:05] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: do i have to install the kdedesktop to compile this application as well ?
[18:05] <dominicdinada> nice that no one will help with faulty packages when it killed my keyoard ^^^ checked the logs and need a hand
[18:06] <kanka_23> i changed smaller the ntfs part but when refresh the page it seems the old values about the parttitons . i mean i can not change it :(
[18:06] <mikebeecham> all seems fine.  I'm rebooting to see if I get the annoying "low graphics mode" issue....I would say that it's gotten back to how it should be...with the exception of the colour banding, which started this whole mess off in the first place
[18:06] <CosmiChaos> hiku, ActionParsnip btw only me-tv shows black screen, when i select VDPAU in mplayer it crashes
[18:06] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: I simply don't understand how you are using KDE... Have you used KDE before?
[18:06] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: grrrr...low graphics mide
[18:06] <mikebeecham> mode
[18:06] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, so you went to the nvidia site for this driver , aka a proprietary driver not available in the repositories/package manager
[18:06] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Can switch user in KDE mode?
[18:07] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: correct mate
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> CosmiChaos: thats all I know dude. sorry
[18:07] <kanka_23>  DesiArnez6: i can not change the size of ntfs part. i use orjinal windows. i always format it from backup.
[18:07] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: let me try that. brb. gotta mail those letters :-)
[18:07] <hsr> abhijit: ??
[18:07] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: you know what...dont worry about this any more...I'm going to have dinner then wipe and reinstall Ubuntu
[18:07] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: thanks for all the help...ttyl
[18:07] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Sure
[18:07] <BluesKaj> did someone recomend it to you , mikebeecham ?
[18:07] <mikebeecham> I would have everything back the way it was already
[18:07] <mweijts> [19:05:10] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: kdekesktop --version kdekesktop: command not found... that should be kdedestop and not kdekestop
[18:07] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Welcome ciao
[18:07] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: nope, I went and looked for the most recent driver package for my card
[18:08] <abhijit> hsr, yes?
[18:08] <shane2peru> what is the first thing to check when localhost/folder in the browser doesn't work any longer?  Seems to have quit working, been a few weeks since I have looked at my localserver stuff, but none the less should work.
[18:08] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: need dinner...be back soon
[18:08] <dominicdinada>  iptables-restore v1.4.4: Couldn't load target `ufw-user-input':/lib/xtables/libipt_ufw-user-input.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ----- 2 keys stopped workin and nothig external happened WTF
[18:08] <shane2peru> I get the forbidden don't have permission error.
[18:08] <hsr> mweijts: kded --version -  Replace kded with any KDE app name, like kdesktop, kicker, konqueror, etc. That command will show you the KDE version, the Qt version used, and the app's version.
[18:08] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, best to stick with recomended drivers by the ubuntu developers
[18:09] <fagel> I use nautilus to connect to a SSH server to browse a folder of files which easily mounts into nautilus. Now the question is can I access that folder outside nautilus (i want to open a file with MatLab without making a local copy).
[18:09] <hsr> abhijit: Did you try restarting in recovery mode?
[18:09] <majdekalel_> oh god its very hot here
[18:09] <trism> fagel: they get mounted to a directory under ~/.gvfs
[18:10] <majdekalel_> is there any aircondition in ubuntu
[18:10] <majdekalel_> ..........
[18:10] <hsr> LOL
[18:10] <shane2peru> ohh, got it, permissions problem. :)  I don't know when that was changed
[18:10] <abhijit> hsr, yes. it was f-spot. i was first time run f-spot and i was importin around 9000 photos. my both cores of cpu are using 89% and ram 80% thats why that problem. now everything is ok. (atleast for now!!!! :D )
[18:10] <shmengie> look under "Applications/Office/Air Conditioning"  if it's not there, then look under ubuntu software center
[18:10] <majdekalel_> i asked this question before and i will post it again
[18:11] <Visine> can you install office 2007 with WINE or do you need crossover?
[18:11] <hansioux> hi, is this the place where i can ask for support information?
[18:11] <hsr> abhijit: All right
[18:11] <majdekalel_> can i do domain controller in ubuntu as that in windows
[18:11] <abhijit> hansioux, yes support for ubuntu.
[18:11] <abhijit> hsr, :)
[18:11] <Oer> abhijeet, why is it a problem ? at least you don't have full 100% cpu load, so i think that sounds good.
[18:11] <majdekalel_> hi guys
[18:11] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, AC for ubuntu: /etc/init.d/fancontrol start  :-)  sri OT I know
[18:12] <dominicdinada> !ot | KE1HA
[18:12] <majdekalel_> or thank you
[18:12] <abhijit> Oer, it IS not problem. it WAS problem. now it solved. thanks for replying.
[18:12] <hansioux> ok, i have a very newbie question.  I am currently running 10.04, do i get auto update for packages in Ubuntu 10.04.1? or do i have to fresh install?
[18:12] <fagel> trism: Look at that. How handy thank you
[18:12] <dominicdinada> !ot | majdekalel_
[18:12] <majdekalel_> so i can make an active directory ?
[18:12] <shmengie> It's a bit of a bugger, but it can be done
[18:13] <majdekalel_> oh yah you mean air-condition
[18:13] <shmengie> I've found samba simple shares work best
[18:13] <majdekalel_> thank man
[18:13] <c3l> how do I reatach a screen if Im logged in with su user?
[18:13] <shmengie> The simpler, the better.
[18:13] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, you need lm-sensors though
[18:13] <majdekalel_> haaaa
[18:13] <majdekalel_> do you have these sensors ?
[18:14] <shmengie> You also need an open drive bay to install the thermostat control
[18:14] <KE1HA> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors :-)
[18:14] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, then run pwmconfig
[18:14] <majdekalel_> its installed
[18:14] <shmengie> I need a little direction
[18:15] <shadowhywind_> Hay all, I just ran dd to clone a harddrive, however fdisk -l shows that 6 of 8 partitions got copied over, but when I open gparted, the entire drive is unallocated without a partition table.. any thoughts?
[18:15] <shmengie> I want rdesktop upgraded to current rdesktop.sourceforge.net flavor
[18:15] <Pamela69> How to automate the sudo command ?
[18:15] <shmengie> any ideas on where to start on that?
[18:15] <shmengie> su
[18:15] <shmengie> sudo su
[18:15] <shmengie> crontab then
[18:16] <Pamela69> for example I want to do cp t.txt /some/folder/
[18:16] <Pamela69> but I need sudo cause the folder are protected
[18:16] <majdekalel_> root@Phonex01:/etc/init.d# fancontrol start
[18:16] <majdekalel_> Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ...
[18:16] <majdekalel_> Error: Can't read configuration file
[18:16] <Pamela69> When I do the sudo in console mode and enter the password it work
[18:16] <joofl> Guys how do i remove an item from a panel? It lets me drag an item in but i can't figure out how to remove it
[18:16] <shmengie> if you sudo crontab -e
[18:16] <LjL> Pamela69: and why does it need automating?
[18:16] <shmengie> you get root
[18:16] <shmengie> automated
[18:17] <majdekalel_> whats the problem in this ?
[18:17] <shmengie> but you need to figure out cron
[18:17] <majdekalel_> root@Phonex01:/etc/init.d# fancontrol start
[18:17] <majdekalel_> Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ...
[18:17] <majdekalel_> Error: Can't read configuration file
[18:17] <FloodBot3> majdekalel_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <majdekalel_> oh ok sorry
[18:17] <MaximLevitsky> joofl: right click on the item -> remove
[18:17] <JonathanEllis> What email app can has email stationery?
[18:17] <joofl> I don't have that option
[18:17] <hansioux> to remove from panel, right click and click remove from panel, if it's not there, it means you have to close that program
[18:18] <joofl> I'm trying to remove from the admin panel
[18:18] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, hold on, may be diff for Lucid
[18:18] <joofl> system > administration
[18:18] <glassresistor> on the lucid version of netbook remix is there a way to switch from classic to netbook gnome without login/logout
[18:18] <majdekalel_> lucid ?
[18:18] <joofl> Is there a Directory where they are stored?
[18:18] <hansioux> joofl, you mean the main menu?
[18:18] <joofl> Yeah
[18:18] <majdekalel_> so what i have to do now ?
[18:18] <itsux2bu> in top one of the columns is PR.. my task has a PR of 20.. i assume PR is priority.. is that the highest or lowest priority?  how to i make it the highest priority?
[18:18] <joofl> I made a launcher for the nvidia config panel that i no longer need
[18:19] <hansioux> goto system -> preference -> main menu
[18:19] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, the contols / strt / stop etc are diffrent that all : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:19] <joofl> ty
[18:19] <giri> how to check the port for my gsm modem ?
[18:19] <IdleOne> joofl: right click on the launcher and remove it
[18:19] <joofl> Thanks hansioux
[18:19] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, provided your motherboard sensors are in the lm-sensor packages, not all of them are.
[18:19] <ale_> Can I help someonw?
[18:20] <ale_> someone*
[18:20] <IdleOne> ale_: you need help or want to help?
[18:20] <giri> how to check the port for my gsm modem ?
[18:20] <majdekalel_> oh ok
 to help
[18:20] <majdekalel_> its ausus motherboard
[18:20] <blink> i got Rhythmbox as a startup application. How can i keep it from being visible on screen in startup?
[18:20] <glassresistor> also anyone know how to make alt-tab show the window and not just the border when switching windows? the is without compiz
[18:20] <IdleOne> ale_: soon as someone asks a question you know the answer to, give them the answer :)
[18:21] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, follow the how too, you need to install, then sensor-detest etc
[18:21] <KE1HA> detect*
[18:21] <glassresistor> ale_: you should help me
[18:21] <ale_> IdleOne, ok thanks
[18:21] <ale_> glassresistor, yes
[18:21] <majdekalel_> KE1HA talk to me at private plz
[18:21] <giri> ale_ : how to check the gsm modem port
[18:21] <jeremyn> how can i tell seahorse that i want to publish a specific gpg key i just created?
[18:22] <ale_> glassresistor, tell me
[18:22] <hsr> magnetron: KH1HA: Do you have any ubuntu wiki profile?
[18:22] <hansioux> I am currently running 10.04, do i get 10.04.1 related update in update manager (or apt-get update)? or do i have to fresh install?
[18:22] <glassresistor> two things would like to be able to switch from nbr to classic gnome without logging off
[18:23] <DesiArnez6> Can anyone help me uninstall google Earth?
[18:23] <hsr> DesiArnez6: What is the setup file format?
[18:23] <ale_> I don't know if you can do it
[18:23] <IdleOne> hansioux: if you have been keeping your install updated you are already @ 10.04.1
[18:23] <glassresistor> and second id like the alt-tab behavior to raise the window its currently switching to and not just bring the borders to the front
[18:23] <hansioux> IdleOne: thanks
[18:23] <hsr> magnetron: KH1HA: Do you have any ubuntu wiki profile?
[18:24] <majdekalel_> oho ok i had downloaded ksensors and its ok
[18:24] <blink> DesiArbez6: try "sudo aptitude uninstall googleearth-package"
[18:24] <maco> glassresistor: dont think you can. kde can switch between netbook/desktop without logging off, but there's nowhere other than the login screen to choose that for gnome
[18:24] <Magnetro> Ehh..
[18:24] <hsr> DesiArnez6: Did you install from synaptic?
[18:24] <glassresistor> maco: you could do it in 8.10 or something but they said it was unstable
[18:24] <DesiArnez6> hsr, I downloaded the .bin file from the official website.
[18:24] <ale_> try t go System>preference>keyboard
[18:24] <glassresistor> getting alt-tab normal would be really nice though
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> glassresistor: i think if you launch the command which launches the NBR interface
[18:25] <ale_> and schoose your # shortcut
[18:25] <jeremyn> i can sync one key already with seahorse, but i created another key and want to publish that but i can't find the option to say "publish this specfiic new key"
[18:25] <hsr> Open a terminal and log in as root or as an administrator
[18:25] <hsr> Read more: How to Uninstall Google Earth on Ubuntu | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2279483_uninstall-google-earth-ubuntu.html#ixzz0xATygtZ7
[18:26] <blink> could anyone help me with Rhythmbox?
[18:26] <ale_> blink; tell me
[18:26] <glassresistor> blink: problem? describe
[18:26] <giri> thinking to develop an facebook messenger client for ubuntu, Suggest me if the idea is good or not ?
[18:26] <Naznaz> hi, can anyone pls post his or her /etc/grub.d/05_debian-theme? Mine is wrecked
[18:26] <blink> ale_: glassresistor: i got Rhythmbox as a startup application. How can i keep it from being visible on screen in startup?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> giri: there are many around, you could contribute to those
[18:26] <hsr> DesiArnez6: Open a terminal and log in as root or as an administrator
[18:26] <hsr> Read more: How to Uninstall Google Earth on Ubuntu | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2279483_uninstall-google-earth-ubuntu.html#ixzz0xATygtZ7
[18:26] <franki> Hallo, nutze 10.04 mit xfce , habe zwei monitore und möchte dualscreens  wallpaper einsetzen. Aber wie  bzw. womit ?
[18:26] <ChogyDan> Naznaz: http://pastebin.com/5nBic4uM
[18:26] <glassresistor> blink: um idk do you want it as a server?
[18:27] <Naznaz> ChogyDan, thanks
[18:27] <blink> ale_: glassresistor: already unchecked "visible" from gconf but didnt work
[18:27] <hsr> DesiArnez6: i hope that helps
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> blink: you could use devilspie to make it run minimised, or use alltray
[18:27] <glassresistor> where are the alt-tab settings? or what program do it?
[18:27] <blink> ale_: glassresistor: I just want it to load on tray
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> glassresistor: if you use compiz, it is configured in CCSM
[18:27] <glassresistor> blink: hum look at the man rhythembox or rythembox --help
[18:28] <DesiArnez6> hsr, ok, terminal is open. I will look at the ehow link now
[18:28] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: no compiz on a netbook
[18:28] <blink> glassresistor: couldn't find anything
[18:28] <glassresistor> idk whys not doing the normal behaviour
[18:28] <hansioux> to the rhythmbox startup minimized question, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-start-rhythmbox-0-9-6-minimized-511601/
[18:28] <giri> ActionParsnip: ya there are many but, i am also thinking to integrate the functions like facebook user parsing, for example, if the user puts the group id it scans all the details of that group and give the output in specific formates and many more features like profile editing and password changing and all other what every u can do in facebook,
[18:28] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: Well everything worked error free. Hopefully that means the GUI update manager will work next time.
[18:28] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: But if not, at least now I know how to do it via terminal.
[18:28] <hsr> magnetron: ???????????/
[18:28] <ale_> blink; you want it isn't open whene you insert a disk?
[18:28] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much!
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: yeah, should be fine
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: no worries duder
[18:29] <blink> ale_: when my system boots up, i have it set as a startup application. along with xchat and empathy. everything is minimized beside rhythmbox
[18:30] <hsr> magnetron:
[18:30] <blink> ale_: i cant even do that through terminal neither. not clearly minimized. rather close since when it launches it will be on tray first.
[18:31] <jimcooncat> in the cli, how do I delete all files in a directory dated before 2010-08-01?
[18:31] <glassresistor> so im assuming metacity handles alt-tab for gnome if there isn't compiz
[18:32] <glassresistor> looking around gconf but don't see anything obvious like hide windows X
[18:32] <hansioux> blink: Within the Configuration Editor, navigate to apps > rhythmbox > plugins > status-icon, then uncheck the "window-visible" box and close the Editor.
[18:33] <maco> jimcooncat: access time or modified time?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> jimcooncat: I'd ask in #bash if nobody replys. They have mad skills
[18:33] <blink> hansioux: done that and didnt work
[18:33] <jimcooncat> maco, I'd guess modified time. Actually created time
[18:33] <blink> lemme restart and see how it goes. be back in a second.
[18:34] <maco> jimcooncat: hmm find doesnt have an option for creation time
[18:34] <jimcooncat> maco, I'd guess modified time, then. I can see it with ls -al
[18:35] <blinkyb> still the same ppl
[18:36] <maco> jimcooncat: find . -mtime +19 -exec rm {} +
[18:36] <maco> jimcooncat:  i think
[18:36]  * jimcooncat bows to the mighty maco and says thanks!
[18:36] <maco> jimcooncat: thatd delete all files in the current directory and downward modified most recently more than 20 days ago
[18:36] <blink> hansioux: nothing changed. still pops up
[18:36] <hiku> maco: jimcooncat try find . -mtime +19 -exec rm {} \;
[18:37] <jimcooncat> maco, that just might save my apt-cacher. thank you too hiku
[18:37] <hiku> jimcooncat: your very welcome
[18:37] <hansioux> blink: can you minimize it once it is up?
[18:37] <Rou> some one here can help me with ubuntu
[18:37] <hiku> !ask > Rou
[18:38] <blink> hansioux: manually, yes. but i want to prevent it from being on screen. since it runs automatically on startup.
[18:38] <Rou> im having a problem with eggdrop
[18:38] <abhijit> !details | Rou
[18:38] <Rou> when i ./eggdrop -m eggdrop.conf
[18:38] <Rou> its an error occured
[18:38] <hiku> Rou: try #eggdrop
[18:39] <IdleOne> Rou: what is the error?
[18:39] <Rou> i restart my server
[18:40]  * Rou as a root .. when trying to ./eggdrop -m
[18:40] <Rou> the error is invalid command when loading
[18:40] <IdleOne> Rou: you need to more specific with the errors you are getting
[18:40] <hiku> Rou: can you pastebin your eggdrop.conf file
[18:40] <TheSmoke> hi all. when using terminal in gentoo, if i type something and press "page up" key, it completes but there's no such feature in ubuntu. how can i make it work like that?
[18:40] <maco> TheSmoke: tab key
[18:41] <Rou> wait
[18:41] <maco> TheSmoke: you need the bash-completion package too, since upstream bash no longer maintains tab completion themselves
[18:41] <abhijit> !tab | TheSmoke
[18:41] <maco> TheSmoke: are you used to ksh by chance? i know it uses something other than tab...
[18:42] <hansioux> blink: i can't find an answer, currently rhythm box starts minimized to tray.  if your rhythm box is up to date then i don't have the solution sorry
[18:42] <glassresistor> still can't figure out how to make alt-tab bring the window its currently on to the front while im switching
[18:42] <bcbc2> TheSmoke: look in /etc/inputrc - you have to uncomment a couple of lines
[18:43] <bcbc2> TheSmoke: or use CTRL+r
[18:43] <blink> hansioux: i dunno whats wrong with this, since i made everything but still. anyway thanks for your help bro.
[18:43] <maco> bcbc2: ctrl+r????
[18:44] <maco> bcbc2: thats for searching through history...
[18:44] <IceD^> hello
[18:44] <ascheel> Is there a way to make Ubuntu mount USB drives with full read capability instead of only readable by the person that plugs it in?
[18:44] <bcbc2> maco: my bad
[18:44] <IceD^> I have ububtu on my wife's laptop
[18:44] <TheSmoke> bcbc2: i'm using ctrl+r but page up is a lot easier :)
[18:45] <IceD^> today wifi (NM) stopped working
[18:45] <abhijit> !details | IceD^
[18:45] <IceD^> just in the middle of the day
[18:45] <IceD^> ok
[18:45] <bcbc2> maco: or maybe not.//
[18:45] <TheSmoke> for example i have written "paster serve --reload development.ini" in my terminal
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> IceD^: please dont use enter as punctuation, use the entire width of the input box
[18:45] <TheSmoke> some time later i want to use it again and i type "paster" and press "page up"  and it automatically brings me "serve --reload development.ini" part
[18:46] <ascheel> Is there a way to make Ubuntu mount USB drives with full read capability instead of only readable by the person that plugs it in?  Reposted the question to specify the external USB drive is vfat
[18:46] <TheSmoke> maco: yay!! it's in /etc/inputrc
[18:46] <edbian> ascheel, How does the system know who plugged it in?
[18:47] <ascheel> edbian: the person logged in at the time.
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> Hey guys, I'm interested in performing some network data transfer and speed tests, can anyone recommend some tools or ideas of how to obtain speed metrics to show management? I really only know of running '$ time {sftp|ftp|svn|git}' commands to show time of transfer downloads. Any thoughts/ideas?
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> I'd like to show transfers with time/speed/bandwidth metrics for things like downloading from a central server from across our global WAN.
[18:47] <IceD^> I got ubuntu 9.10, worked fine last months, today NM stopped working (no icon), when I do /etc/init.d/network-manager restart icon appears, wireless shows as unmanaged, nothing helpful in logs -- (wlan0): supplicant manager state: down -> idle, no updates were installed last weeks, iwconfig shows interface
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: you can add the item to /etc/fstab to specify mount options
[18:47] <ascheel> dot-slaSh: I recommend 'iftop -f tcp -B' and 'bmon'
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> ascheel: thanks I'll check those out.
[18:47] <IceD^> oops, it's 10.04 LTS, not 9.10, sorry
[18:47] <Rou> IdleOne
[18:48] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: this is using the automount stuff with Ubuntu.  Can you specify the mount perms with that?
[18:48] <edbian> ascheel, I'm not sure how multiple users mounting the same fs works but I also suggest you create an /etc/fstab entry and throw in the user,rw   options
[18:48] <IdleOne> Rou: yes?
[18:48] <maco> IceD^: look in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf  and check that it has managed=true
[18:48] <hansioux> blink: if you are still there
[18:48] <blink> hansioux: what?
[18:48] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: I meant, can you specify the mount perms in fstab to be ready by gnome's automount?
[18:48] <hansioux> blink: goto your startup application menu, and change the command of rhythmbox to rhythmbox-client --hide
[18:48] <maco> IceD^: i usually have this happen if i have an improper shutdown
[18:48] <IceD^> maco, managed: false
[18:48] <edbian> ascheel, You specify the mount perms using /etc/fstab.  Usually it follows the permissions of the folder it was mounted into if that filesystem doesn't have user permissions
[18:48] <IceD^> ty
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: make it true then restart NM
[18:49] <ascheel> edbian: but that will only affect this one drive, and while that's not a big deal to do that with this drive, ultimately I'd like it to work with any vfat drive I plug in
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: there may be a nm-system-settings process you have to kill too.... not sure
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: i usually make it true then reboot
[18:49] <IceD^> maco, I told "ty" already - means it worked :))
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: heh ok
[18:49] <dot-slaSh> ascheel: btw, you should always edit your fstab file then test test test with 'mount -a' I only bring this up because yesterday I spent all day trying to troubleshoot a VM hosted machine not booting because I mucked up fstab. Got it resolve after hours... =/
[18:50] <edbian> ascheel, Then you want to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/<something>  I'm not as familiar with that.
[18:50] <ascheel> edbian, thank you.  :)
[18:50] <blink> hansioux: the command is set on "rhythmbox %U". whats that variable suppose to be? do i keep it as is or remove it?
[18:51] <edbian> ascheel, Yep. Good luck!  I tried to add a file into that rule to auto sync a music player and I got frustrated and gave up.
[18:51] <edbian> ascheel, :)
[18:51] <edbian> blink, Most likely that's rhythmbox's way of saying open this file with rhythmbox
[18:51] <ascheel> edbian: not sure if it will apply as it's Gnome that's mounting it in user space and not the kernel
[18:51] <Oliver_> is the sound better in Windows then Ubuntu?
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, I think gnome reads the rules in those files.
[18:52] <ascheel> edbian: thanks again.  :)
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, As I said thought I got frustrated so it's possible I'm wrong.
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, Good luck!
[18:52] <ascheel> edbian: It's a better starting point than where I was at!
[18:52] <edbian> Oliver_, Are you asking the community or a specific person?
[18:52] <blink> hansioux: nothing changed. still the same.
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, :D
[18:52] <abhijit> do i need to samba installed in order to create ad hoc network between win 7 and my ubuntu?
[18:52] <edbian> abhijit, Yes.
[18:52] <Oliver_> edbian: the community
[18:53] <abhijit> edbian, ok
[18:53] <edbian> Oliver_, Sound is the same if not better on Ubuntu.
[18:53] <edbian> abhijit, For file transfers and such.  General TCP/IP is platform independent.
[18:53] <cmpsalvestrini> abhijit: yes, smaba is always needed to interop Windows and linux in a networky way
[18:53] <ascheel> Oliver_: The sound on all of my Ubuntu machine sounds the same as it does in Windows for me.  Still sucks on my eee and still sounds awesome on my desktop.
[18:54] <Oliver_> edbian: alright, thx. but in spotify i feel the sound better in windows? is that because i run it in wine?
[18:54] <ascheel> cmpsalvestrini and edbian, samba isn't needed to run an adhoc network between them, only to actually use Windows' File and Print sharing.  If you use another protocol, samba is not needed
[18:54] <edbian> Oliver_, Probably.
[18:54] <abhijit> cmpsalvestrini, edbian i need to do all transer all types of file between that ad hoc net work
[18:54] <jimcooncat> well, my apt-cacher is hosed from using it for both Debian and Ubuntu. Does anyone have a better alternative?
[18:54] <aeon-ltd> Oliver_:it might just b mixer settings are different
[18:54] <edbian> abhijit, You need samba.
[18:54] <ascheel> Oliver_: Wine is NOT windows.  It's a good replacement of it, but it is NOT windows, so do not expect it to perform as Windows would
[18:54] <abhijit> edbian, ok
[18:54] <cmpsalvestrini> Oliver_: linux sound support has come a long way
[18:54] <Oliver_> edbian: thx
[18:55] <ascheel> abhijit: yes, samba is what you'll want to use.
[18:55] <edbian> Oliver_, Yep.
[18:55] <toter> I came here around two days ago asking about the new ubuntu font... that no one seems to have and it is impossible to download
[18:55] <abhijit> ascheel, yah
[18:55] <Pici> toter: Its not released publicly yet.
[18:55] <ascheel> toter: I have it.  It downloaded in an update.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: if it's in fstab it will override gnome's nonesense
[18:55] <abhijit> now basic question :)
[18:55] <toter> Pici: I got the font!
[18:55] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: yeah, but that has to be done on a per-drive basis.  Oh well
[18:55] <Pici> toter: oh.
[18:55] <Oliver_> ascheel: ok :)
[18:55] <Pici> toter: Maybe I missed the release then ;)
[18:56] <cmpsalvestrini> abhijit: then you really need samba
[18:56] <abhijit> how to install samba? i am now installing a thing called Samba and SMB/CIFS from software center. is that enough?
[18:56] <abhijit> cmpsalvestrini, ^^
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: no, on a per-partition basis. You dont mount drives
[18:56] <toter> Pici: It hasn't been released yet
[18:56] <Oliver_> someone that knows when spotify in linux will be released?
[18:56] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: point ntaken
[18:56] <ascheel> edbian: /lib/udev/rules.d    <--- take a peak instead of /etc
[18:56] <toter> Pici: Finally... It's such a bureaucracy to get the font... You must be a Ubuntu Member and blah blah blah... Geez, it's just a font!
[18:56] <toter> I finally found it
[18:57] <Pici> toter: Its still being tested.
[18:57] <cmpsalvestrini> abhijit: I believe those are the packages you seek, you should read up at ubuntuforums how to configure samba to your needs.
[18:57] <edbian> ascheel, Those appear to be binary programs?
[18:57] <abhijit> cmpsalvestrini, yah sure i wll.
[18:57] <toter> Pici: I know... But why forbid us to download? I don't understand... Anyway... I got the font
[18:57] <cmpsalvestrini> toter: where didja find that font
[18:57] <ascheel> edbian: not on mine.  scripts the same as /etc/udev/.... but far more examples.
[18:58] <toter> Even though I am not supposed to have
[18:58] <toter> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1691694/UbuntuBetaNEW.ttf
[18:58] <Pici> toter: Please don't paste that here.
[18:58] <edbian> ascheel, Perhaps that's because I'm using Debian and you're using Ubuntu.  Ha ha.  Don't tell the ops though!
[18:58] <toter> Pici: I already did
[18:58] <toter> LOL
[18:58] <ascheel> that's not LOL, toter.
[18:58] <ascheel> edbian: I think that's a capital offense, no?
[18:59] <toter> i am so sorry... ops... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1691694/UbuntuBetaNEW.ttf
[18:59] <edbian> ascheel, Sometimes people act like it :)
[18:59] <Laban> Hi! Got some problems with audio in 10.04 using HDMI. Anyone care to take a peek? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/121230
[18:59] <cmpsalvestrini> edbian: debian and ubuntu are copacetic AFAIK...
[18:59] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, copacetic   ??
[18:59] <hansioux> blink: rhythmbox-client --hide works for me in the terminal, so i don't know why it isn't working for you.  hope you find the answer
[18:59] <ascheel> Pici: o/
[18:59] <cmpsalvestrini> adbian: as in, friendly, since ubuntu is based on debian
[18:59] <ascheel> denied...  leavin' me hangin
[18:59] <cmpsalvestrini> edbian: as in, friendly, since ubuntu is based on debian
[19:00] <Spiffydude> Hello All, I am making a thin client media box using an NVidia Ion N330 board. I am using a 4GB class 6 USB drive for  permanent storage. What would be the best way to partion/format?
[19:00] <blink> hansioux: maybe because i am running many applications on startup.
[19:00] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, I don't know what copacetic means.
[19:00] <jimcooncat> edbian: it's more fun when ubuntu users start asking q's in #debian
[19:00] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, Thank you for the friendliness though! :)
[19:00] <edbian> jimcooncat, The people in #debian don't have as much patience as the people here do :)
[19:01] <spirosvii> kalhspera
[19:01] <hansioux> blink: close your running rhythmbox and try that command in the terminal, if it works, it should also work at startup when you change the command for rhythmbox in the starup application menu
[19:01] <delirus> can anyone here give me examples of how to use sfdisk?  the documentation is over my head....
[19:01] <delirus> (and I can't use cfdisk or fdisk)
[19:01] <cmpsalvestrini> adbian: it's lingo for A-OK
[19:01] <cmpsalvestrini> edbian: it's lingo for A-OK
[19:01] <edbian> delirus, What about gparted?  It's very very easy.
[19:01] <blink> hansioux: tried that. yeah it is working fine. it only screws up with system boots
[19:02] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, Thank you.  I see. :)
[19:02] <delirus> edbian:  I'm probably in the wrong place.  But I'm trying to repartition my phone, and it just has sfdisk.  I hear people say cfdisk and fdisk won't round things out properly on this device.
[19:02] <almoxarife> http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/sorting-algorithms-quite-boring-until-you-add-sound-effects-20100819/
[19:03] <almoxarife> sorry
[19:03] <edbian> delirus, Hardcore!  I think someone will help you.  Technically not Ubuntu but the same program would have gotten help if being run on an Ubuntu system.  Maybe just don't tell people and they won't ask.
[19:03] <Spiffydude> lol Good Link
[19:03] <cmpsalvestrini> Spiffydude: There is a page over at the DNA Lounge website that explains how to make what you want to do. Seems to be a hellishly complicated affair however.
[19:03] <Spiffydude> Anyone have an Idea for my question?
[19:04] <Spiffydude> ah
[19:04] <delirus> edbian:  hehe.  I'm doing and ssh *from* ubuntu, if that helps
[19:04] <cmpsalvestrini> Spiffydude: for reference, this is the link: http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/src/kiosk/
[19:04] <edbian> delirus, Ha!  :)
[19:04] <Spiffydude> I've made thin clients on hard drives. I just want understand what the main difference if any is in using a flash drive
[19:04] <Spiffydude> will check it out
[19:04] <cmpsalvestrini> Small OT: DNA Lounge's owner was part of the original Mozilla dev team
[19:05] <edbian> delirus, BTW I have no idea how to use sfdisk :P
[19:05] <delirus> edbian:  I gathered,  but thanks anyway 8)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Spiffydude: one uses a flash based storage locally, the other uses a spindle based storage locally. To the OS there is no difference, it simply sees a block device. The kernel handles the access
[19:06] <charley__> hi, I have this strange problem: i just installed xldm desktop in my lap, and when i rebooted and loged into that desktop the windows are like if i was doing alt+tab constantly. The focus siwtches between windows and desktop.
[19:06] <Spiffydude> Gotcha, my main question was just understanding if they should be formatted any differently than a standard drive
[19:07] <jimcooncat> Spiffydude: What are you storing on it? The whole os, or just your /home?
[19:07] <Naznaz> hi, my grub background is still not displayed although update-grub tells me the image was found
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Spiffydude: ext2 instead of ext3 or 4 will make them last longer
[19:07] <charley__> it looks like if i was switching between work areas nonstop
[19:07] <charley__> and i cant work like that D:
[19:07] <charley__> any ideas what it might be?
[19:07] <abhijit> charley__, do you mean lxde?
[19:07] <Spiffydude> OS, enough to boot into gnome and display boxee or mythtv frontend
[19:07] <blackstar> hello people, anyone knows how to use magic jack un ubuntu?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> charley__: if you log out and into Gnome, is it ok
[19:08] <delac> can't reconnect my 3G connection after manual disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:08] <charley__> ActionParsnip, its normal at start, but then i does the same
[19:08] <jimcooncat> Spiffydude: that doesn't sound too thin to me.
[19:08] <Alonea> hi, I am trying to download everything in this folder with wget, but I am a little confused on how it works. http://www.cs.rit.edu/~sps/Courses/CS4/Lecture/
[19:08] <charley__> in Gnome im able to see a 'new window' terminal like, thats flashing
[19:08] <charley__> like opening and closing
[19:08] <edbian> Alonea, Just give it the recursive flag no?
[19:09] <mgolisch> how do is disable pulseaudio? trying to run it with -vv but its auto respawned by something so it doesnt work
[19:09] <Alonea> edbian: I did, but it just went up the directory instead of down
[19:09] <Naznaz> hi, my grub background is still not displayed although update-grub tells me the image was found, any idea why?
[19:09] <edbian> Alonea, did not.
[19:09] <edbian> Alonea, Really?
[19:09] <charley__> ActionParsnip, any ideas?
[19:09] <IdleOne> delac: can you please part #ubuntu-ops if there is nothing else we can help you with
[19:09] <abhijit> Naznaz, what is the format of the image/
[19:09] <blackstar_> hello, any know's how to make MagicJack run under linux?
[19:09] <Naznaz> abhijit, .tga
[19:09] <sergio__> salve
[19:09] <winmutt> my ati dualhead has stopped worjung can someone look at http://pastebin.com/AdQkSSn1
[19:09] <sergio__> !list
[19:09] <abhijit> Naznaz, listen.
[19:10] <IdleOne> delac: thank you :)
[19:10] <Alonea> edbian: I am not sure what I am doing wrong. i did wget -r http://www.cs.rit.edu/~sps/Courses/CS4/Lecture/
[19:10] <Spiffydude> Thin in the sense that no media will be stored locally all streamed and I was going to remove any other unneccesary programs and boot programs. Pretty much an X session, could be xfce now that I think about it. And run a media client
[19:10] <unsuprise> exit
[19:10] <abhijit> Naznaz, some time ago when i try to do the same, then after some experimenting i found that it only allows some limited image type only. not all. and i guess .tga is not supportd. try with .png or .jpg
[19:10] <edbian> Alonea, The man page says -r is recursive.  Try wget --recursive <file>  instead??
[19:10] <Spiffydude> But you answered my main question in that I need ext2 instead one of the newer ones.
[19:11] <edbian> Or just quit
[19:11] <edbian> god
[19:11] <earthmeLon> Is there a place where you can see what updates have been put into each kernel version.  I'd like to see what updates im getting by upgrading kernels
[19:11] <Naznaz> abhijit, okay, I'll try but the 05_debian-theme says .tga works, too. And the images downloaded by apt-get install grub2-splashimages are also .tga, but I'll give it a try. brb
[19:11] <sergio__> !list
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> charley__: so in gnome its the same?
[19:12] <ChogyDan> earthmeLon: aptitude changelog <kernel>
[19:12] <earthmeLon> thanks ChogyDan
[19:12] <charley__> ActionParsnip, not exactly the same, but after a while its starts doing the same thing yes.
[19:13] <earthmeLon> ChogyDan, aptitude changelog <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>-generic and <kernel> all don't work
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> charley__: ok then shutdown the pc and press every key a few times, they may be stuck down
[19:14] <ChogyDan> earthmeLon: you have to use the package name, ie, linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic
[19:14] <charley__> ActionParsnip, already tried that a couple of times.
[19:14] <edbian> charley__, Try a different keyboard?
[19:15] <earthmeLon> Thanks ChogyDan.  I googled kernel changelog instead of kernel patch notes and got better results.  ty ty
[19:15] <Alonea> edbian: ok, sorry, ubuntu...crashed?
[19:15] <charley__> edbian, its a laptop
[19:15] <edbian> Alonea, That's ok
[19:15] <edbian> Alonea, What were we talking about?
[19:15] <Alonea> edbian: wget
[19:16] <edbian> Alonea, ah right.  Try wget --recursive <file>  instead of -r
[19:17] <charley__> any other ideas anyone?
[19:18] <Alonea> edbian: same as before, it won't go inside any of those folders
[19:18] <c3l> can you get past this message without getting adobe reader? "Please wait... ...your PDF viewer may not be able to disply this type of document.... upgrate lates adobe reader.. blabla" I dont want proprietary software!
[19:18] <edbian> Alonea, What does it do?  Go the wrong direction?
[19:18] <zeltak> hya guys..was wondering if someone could help me with ssh issues..login is ok but when using ssh (for example now in irc) its really laggy and slow..anyone have any idea whats casing this?
[19:19] <ilovefairuz> c3l: use evince
[19:19] <edbian> Alonea, I see.  It's doing the same for me.
[19:20] <Alonea> edbian: ok, at least I am not crazy then. and I could have sworn I did this before when I actually took this class last year
[19:20] <edbian> Alonea, ha ha.  I'm thinking maybe they're links or something?
[19:20] <c3l> ilovefairuz: thanks
[19:20] <ilovefairuz> zeltak: try using the -C option for compressing data
[19:20] <zeltak> ok ilovefairuz will do thx
[19:21] <Alonea> edbian: dont think so. Look at the link in a browser
[19:21] <edbian> Alonea, Yeah I'm trying to figure it out.
[19:22] <delac> can't reconnect my 3G connection after manual disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:22] <rvn> hey, how do i connect to an smb share from nautilus? I tried to do smb:/// and smb:/, both failed due to not being able to retrieve a list of servers. i then tried both with a server's name explicitly, failed to retrieve list of shares
[19:22] <rvn> some of the servers are winxp, the one i want to access is win7
[19:23] <lanos> opa!
[19:23] <lanos> alguem sabe bem como instalar uma impressora no linux?
[19:23] <zeltak> ilovefairuz: still very laggy and slow...i have a N routre dont get it...
[19:23] <almoxarife> rvn: on the win machine, does the folder you want to see elsewhere already show on the network?
[19:23] <Karen_m> this channel is leet
[19:24] <rvn> almoxarife, i'd like to connect to C$, actually
[19:24] <rvn> almoxarife, in which case it wouldn't/shouldn't
[19:24] <almoxarife> lanos: usa #ubuntu.pt
[19:24] <Karen_m> we had 1337 people, back down to 1336
[19:24] <rvn> heh
[19:24] <Karen_m> one more and we're leet again
[19:24] <nitrogoldfish> w00t.
[19:24] <cmpsalvestrini> heh
[19:24] <mmaksimov> rvn, don't know about win7, but in XP C$ may not be available
[19:24] <nitrogoldfish> damn, overshot.
[19:24] <Pici> !ot
[19:25] <lanos> alguem sabe instalar impressora no ubuntu?
[19:25] <rvn> mmaksimov, it's always available on every NT-based windows, it's hidden to windows comps by defaul
[19:25] <Pici> !br | lanos
[19:25] <rvn> t
[19:25] <almoxarife> rvn: you need to first insure that the folder on the win machine is setup as shared,
[19:25] <rvn> almoxarife, it's always shared on every nt-based machine unless explicitly unshared
[19:25] <lanos> a blz
[19:26] <c3l> ilovefairuz: I still cant get past the message, using evince
[19:26] <rvn> almoxarife, it requires login tho, which i dunno how to do via nautilus
[19:26] <mmaksimov> rvn, no you have to uncheck "use simple file-sharing something..." under Tools->Options in explorer to make it available.
[19:26] <trism> Alonea: it is a problem with their robots.txt, they disallow /~ so everything under there won't be automatically fetched by wget since it respects robots.txt (except index.html since you specifically asked for that)
[19:26] <rvn> almoxarife, does smb:/user:password@server/share work?
[19:26] <ilovefairuz> c3l: where do you see the message?
[19:26] <straterra> Hmm..whats the easiest way to install Broadcom STA on 10.04?
[19:26] <Alonea> trism: ah. any way around it or no?
[19:26] <rvn> mmaksimov, that option is only available under xp, and it's available even while checked anyway
[19:26] <redLAW> Hi to all. I have problem with the pppd demon . I can get to VPN to my VPS in USA. This is log from system http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/V4ktRMm6 Anybody kind to help
[19:26] <abhijit> !broadcom | straterra
[19:27] <c3l> ilovefairuz: its instead of the content, well it is the content
[19:27] <ilovefairuz> c3l: in a browser?
[19:28] <mmaksimov> rvn, I just know I had problems connecting to C$ via smb, and unchecking that simple-sharing thing solved it
[19:28] <almoxarife> rvn: the easy way to share and see shares on ubuntu is to right click on a folder (pick one) and set it to share, if you are asked to install packages, do, then see if your nt/folders are visible, at a min you should see the login for the nt machine if you were to click on one of the nt/folders
[19:28] <rvn> that's not available under win7.. perhaps linux requires a public share to be available in order to produce a list instead of enumerating like windows can
[19:28] <edbian> Alonea, I'm thinking about this.  Imagine if you did wget -r www.yahoo.com.  And the recursive went down.  They we wanted it to.  When would it end?  Ever?  You'd have a wget of the entire internet probably.  It makes more sense to go up.  We're getting confused because this particular website is a file tree.  Not a web like the rest of the internet.
[19:28] <c3l> ilovefairuz: in the pdf viewer, evince
[19:28] <ilovefairuz> c3l: take a screeenshot
[19:28] <almoxarife> rvn: that would be a folder on the ubuntu side
[19:29] <Alonea> edbian: wget has a layer limit of 5 unless you specify more
[19:29] <edbian> Alonea, Is that so.
[19:29] <mmaksimov> rvn, did you try smb://<ip-address>?
[19:29] <edbian> Alonea, Did you try chaning it?
[19:29] <rvn> mmaksimov, no i didnt
[19:29] <Alonea> edbian: yes. I did. and I think trism hit it. its robots.txt
[19:30] <edbian> Alonea, Look at -np option
[19:30] <mmaksimov> rvn, try then ;)
[19:30] <cached> Say i have access to N machines, and I have N tasks to run. Is there a good way of distributing all of those tasks?
[19:30] <Alonea> edbian: tried that too. I think they added something to block wget
[19:30] <delirus> anyone have tips on using sfdisk?
[19:30] <redLAW> Hi to all. I have problem with the pppd demon . I can get to VPN to my VPS in USA. This is log from system http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/V4ktRMm6 Anybody kind to help
[19:30] <edbian> Alonea, RIT added something?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> cached: you can ssh onto each one and launch a task for each
[19:31] <mintux> I need a calendar software with alarm that alert on special date and time I defined . what software can I use ?
[19:31] <cached> ActionParsnip: if i have the list of commands and the list of servers in text files, is there any way to do it without requiring O(n) work on my part?
[19:31] <Alonea> edbian: maybe. I don't quite get what trism was talking about. they did update the system this year. I do see the robots.txt file though
[19:31] <nitrogoldfish> mintux: cron? :)
[19:31] <cached> ActionParsnip: well, technically Omega(N)
[19:31] <it-hero> does anyone know a good monitoring app similiar to conky or gkrellm that i can use to monitor remote servers
[19:32] <mintux> nitrogoldfish: does it has gui ?
[19:32] <rvn> doesn't work by ip either
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> cached: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DistributedComputing
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> it-hero: snmp :)
[19:32] <it-hero> ya i thought of that
[19:32] <cached> ActionParsnip: i was hoping i wouldn't have to go that route, since these are all one-time scripts. oh well, i might as well just write my own distributor
[19:33] <nitrogoldfish> mintux: no : (
[19:33] <it-hero> and also cacti and nagios
[19:33] <c3l> ilovefairuz: http://img5.imageshack.us/i/201008202030401278x1006.png/ actual pdf is at http://polisen.se/Global/www%20och%20Intrapolis/Blanketter/Pass/RPS_531.2_pass_underarig.pdf
[19:33] <mmaksimov> rvn, is that machine's share accessible from other windows machines?
[19:33] <nitrogoldfish> mintux: at least not that i know of
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> cached: there are distros made for it
[19:33] <mintux> hmm
[19:33] <trism> Alonea: if you run the recursive wget with -d (for debug) you will see wget reject the files based on robots.txt, so it is definitely that
[19:33] <Peeteer> Hi everyone!
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> cached: one pc acts as the head adnd the others join
[19:33] <rvn> mmaksimov, on any other windows machine i can authenticate using net share to the generic IPC and then access any folder on the machine via SMB syntax
[19:33] <edbian> Alonea, I'm not sure!    Appears none of them will download recursively like we want.  I'm doing things like: wget --recursive -np www.yahoo.com    or debian.net
[19:33] <mek||malloc> Is there a reason the ubuntu website has the 64 bit edition flagged as, "Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[19:33] <umc> hey guys. I installed ubuntu today, over a mandriva install, but kept my /home partition, including my .ssh folder, but now when I try to ssh into another box, I get "Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive)" any idea why it doesn't use the keys from ~/.ssh ?
[19:34] <trism> Alonea: as for workarounds, I would use a bit of python and wget to grab the files, but may be more work than just manually grabbing them
[19:34] <cached> ActionParsnip: i don't think a distro is what i'm looking for. all i really want is one machine to go through the list, ssh into the other machine, run the command, and download the results it gets. shouldn't be too hard to write.
[19:34] <Peeteer> Wow, i see many questions here, i wonder what are the chances mine will be answered
[19:34] <edbian> Alonea, Yeah.
[19:34] <mek||malloc> umc: You probably just need to clear your ~/.ssh /know_hosts file
[19:34] <cached> ActionParsnip: (doing that for each machine)
[19:34] <abhijit> !ask | Peeteer
[19:34] <Alonea> trism, edbian: GOT IT. wget -e robots=off --wait 1 http://your.site.here
[19:35] <edbian> trism, Do you think something in robots.txt is blocking wget from retrieving the entire thing?
[19:35] <edbian> Alonea, Nice
[19:35] <umc> mek||malloc: thanks for the tip, I'll try that too
[19:35] <Peeteer> okay, thank you :)
[19:35] <berkay_> Hey
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> cached: there is a distro where each cpu command eis sent to a different pc rather than a bulk task afaik
[19:35] <trism> Alonea: ahh didn't know you could do that, excellent
[19:35] <cached> ActionParsnip: that's a bit overkill for my situation, but thanks anyway =)
[19:35] <mek||malloc> Someone care to comment? Is there a reason the ubuntu website has the 64 bit edition flagged as, "Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[19:35] <edbian> Alonea, Do you need the wait?
[19:36] <cached> mek||malloc: increased RAM usage maybe?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> cached: if you go the ssh way you can easily script it
[19:36] <trism> edbian: and yes, the Disallow: /~ is what was blocking it, since all the files were in a user directory
[19:36] <berkay_> Can i ask my questions here? I have a sound problem.
[19:36] <cached> ActionParsnip: that's the plan =)
[19:36] <Alonea> edbian: not necessarily, but its considered polite to not spam the server....especially since they have a robot file in the first place
[19:36] <umc> mek||malloc: didn't work. it just asked me if I want to add it to the list of hosts, but after saying yes I got the same message
[19:36] <abhijit> !ask | berkay_
[19:36] <Peeteer> So my after a few months,  i could get my girlfriend to install ubuntu since it really would fit her needs. She is pretty lazy but after a while she gave in. She installed from Wubi installer, on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j machine, and the thing is that , she can not log in or do anything, because the numbers of her keyboard doesnt work
[19:36] <Peeteer> *my girlfriend
[19:36] <mek||malloc> berkay_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting Take a look at that
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> mek||malloc: 32bit is more supported by 3rd party developers and some hardware manufacturers
[19:37] <edbian> Alonea, Very good!  :)
[19:37] <mek||malloc> ActionParsnip: Ah ha, that seems like a logical explanation.
[19:37] <sergio__> salvve
[19:37] <ozzloy> my window manager won't start.  but i can start vim from a terminal via export DISPLAY=:0.0; gvim
[19:37] <sergio__> !list
[19:37] <edbian> Peeteer, I'm assuming you tried num-lock key?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> mek||malloc: brother seem to only like 32bit on their site from what I've seen, to name one
[19:37] <ozzloy> how do i get my gnome desktop back?
[19:37] <Peeteer> it is a laptop
[19:38] <edbian> Peeteer, It still has a num-lock key...
[19:38] <Naznaz> hi, i got a warning considering my locale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/13Bu4ib8 anyone knowing how to fix it?
[19:38] <Alonea> edbian: and I don't need the files right this second so its free to take a while. I am trying to help out a friend at another uni. they are expected to know c++ without taking any classes on it
[19:38] <berkay_> I have Realtek AC883 sound card . I cant get my front panel sound output working? What should i do?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: press alt+f2 and type: nautilus ,press enter
[19:38] <ozzloy> if i try to start nautilus, or a bunch of other programs, i get "floating point exception nautilus"
[19:38] <edbian> Alonea, Ouch!
[19:38] <edbian> Alonea, Better learn quick!
[19:38] <ilovefairuz> c3l: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20490
[19:38] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you get the current driver installed ?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: run: sudo lshw -C sound ,to find the acual chip
[19:38] <Peeteer> yes, i know, but im pretty sure she did, actually numlock isnt turned on by default, and i dont need it to be turned on for the numbers to work on my sony vaio
[19:39] <ozzloy> ActionParsnip, yeahh... alt+f2 doesn't even work.  i have to ctrl+alt+f1 to even get a terminal
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: yikes, what about if you boot an earlier kernel?
[19:39] <Alonea> edbian: yeah, poor girl. I took this ages ago and knew the professor keeps his stuff up forever. she is trying to learn it asap before her classes start.
[19:39] <berkay_> ActionParsnip  , I did that. Its N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller .
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: ok, that is your sound chip
[19:39] <edbian> Alonea, Good luck!
[19:39] <abhijit> !sound | berkay_
[19:40] <abhijit> bye.
[19:40] <Rou> berkay_ : what is the command to add user in ubuntu terminal
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: check in alsamixer that its not muted and the sliders are cranked
[19:40] <c3l> ilovefairuz: adobe really stands up to their reprutation
[19:40] <c3l> ilovefairuz: thanks
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | rou
[19:40] <mek||malloc> ozzloy: I think I'd try a memory test and or run a live disk and see if you are having similar problems... Unless this is something that recently started happening and once was fine.
[19:40] <berkay_> ActionParsnip: I did that.
[19:40] <berkay_> Rou: I dont know.
[19:40] <Rou> erk
[19:41] <Rou> anyone ?
[19:41] <JK3MP> Is this the best place to ask a question about a LINUX specific programming question?
[19:41] <Peeteer> It took reaaally long to make her install ubuntu since she is pretty lazy about computer stuffs, and it sucks we got stuck at this point, and if i would be present at her computer it would be easier but right now we live in a different country and i have no idea why her numbers dont work. Pretty annoying.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: cool, then copy the product line from the lshw output, see if there are any guides or bugs logged
[19:41] <razass> few qs is 10.04 ready for production webserver use?
[19:41] <Pici> JK3MP: No, a channel for your programming language is probably best.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> razass: yes, its officially released
[19:41] <edbian> JK3MP, Perhaps #linux
[19:41] <razass> great
[19:42] <Rou> Pici : how to add a user in unbuntu ?
[19:42] <Rou> ubuntu*
[19:42] <razass> and can it handle the i7's hyperthreading? or do you only get the 4 physical cores with 10.04?
[19:42] <RingZer0> I changed to ubuntu recently... one of the things I love about kde (vs gnome) was the built-in colorpicker.... is there a widget like that for ubuntu/gnome?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Rou: the factoid tells you all you need to know. Just read
[19:42] <Peeteer> Rou, there is an option for user and groups
[19:42] <Pici> Rou: the command is 'adduser', see its manpage for more help.
[19:42] <nitrogoldfish> RingZer0: you could always use kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE)
[19:42] <Rou> ok
[19:43] <RingZer0> I stayed in the "tray" and remembered the last 30 colors you picked... each had a context and ability to copy the HTML color code, RGB color code, etc...
[19:43] <JK3MP> Pici thank you.
[19:43] <JK3MP> edbian, thank you.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> razass: I don't use multicore but I would imagine it does
[19:43] <edbian> JK3MP, Good luck
[19:43] <JK3MP> edbian, Thanks. lol
[19:43] <Peeteer> Rou or also if you need GUI go with, System - > Administration -> Users and Groups :)
[19:43] <razass> ActionParsnip: ok I just wasnt sure if the multithreading was part of the proc or needed to be OS supported
[19:43] <RingZer0> nitrogoldfish: nah... i really prefer gnome (or LXDE)).
[19:44] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you get the current driver installed ?
[19:44] <RingZer0> but do ya'll have any ideas for a built-in panel-based color picker?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> razass: should be. Boot to livecd and run: cat /proc/cpu | less ,to check
[19:44] <Maletor> Is RAID 0 striped across 6 drives generally a bad idea due to the high risk of failure?
[19:44] <razass> ActionParsnip: I am building the server now so thats why im asking :)
[19:44] <RingZer0> Where do I get more items like "drawer" and "eyes" for the panel?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: there are more points of failure, drives are cheap and the speed will be phenominal. Keep backups up to date and you are laughing
[19:45] <umc> Maletor: yes. if any of the 6 drives fails, you lose all the information
[19:45] <Peeteer> So does anyone have any idea why numbers dont work on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j laptop after a fresh install of ubuntu with wubi installer, apart from the numlock key idea of edbian ?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: could go for 3x2 or raid10
[19:45] <Naznaz> hi, i got a warning considering my locale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/13Bu4ib8 anyone knowing how to fix it?
[19:45] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: How do you mean 3x2?
[19:45] <magicianlord> Peeteer: did you unlock the numlock?
[19:46] <Maletor> RAID 10 seems redundent for me since it's mostly media.
[19:46] <tkinlok> I have a problem with the package manger - I try to install biff, but the package manager removes comsat which biff needs.  I try to install comsat, the package manager removes biff.  Any way around this?  I need both installed for biff to work.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: each drive in a raid 1 but the 3 logical drives in one big super raid 0 "drive"
[19:46] <RingZer0> Maletor: redundancy when used with the word backup is never a bad thing
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: you get the idea
[19:46] <mek||malloc> ActionParsnip: Not that I'm suggesting you read but the resource http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=403064 was also helpful regarding the 32 v. 64 bit distros. Thanks again for the insight. I think I'll stick with 32 bit for now.
[19:47]  * RingZer0 using 64 right now...
[19:47] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: The thing I don't like about RAID 5 is how it can't be a boot drive
[19:47] <RingZer0> I have to take advantage of my i7
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mek||malloc: 64bit helps with sound encoding and video encoding, stuff like that
[19:47] <Maletor> I have to create 3 partitions, boot, swap and root
[19:47] <RingZer0> ActionParsnip: and your cores :)
[19:47] <Spiffydude> raid 5 cant be a boot drive?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: have an sdcard with grub2 on it to then boot the raid
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: huh?
[19:48] <Spiffydude> I have a Raid 5 server running right now.
[19:48] <Peeteer> magicianlord: since mine wasnt turned on by default, i dont think her was, but i will ask her next time she will be around the computer, i just try to gather as many ready options as possible since she is very lazy with computers , and installations, and such, and i really dont think it was the num-lock but i will ask her
[19:48] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: is there a tutorial for that?
[19:48] <stealth_> Hey guys, got a newb question. Basically, I need truecrypt on linux. I got the tar.gz file but so far no matter what guides I have looked at its not working at all for me
[19:48] <stealth_> So how would I install the tar.gz file?
[19:48] <Spiffydude> extract the tar.gz
[19:48] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: or rather could you be more verbose?
[19:48] <mek||malloc> stealth_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149561
[19:48] <Naznaz> hi, i got a warning considering my locale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/13Bu4ib8 anyone knowing how to fix it?
[19:49] <delac> can't reconnect my 3G connection after manual disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this? Connecting after replugging the usb-modem works though.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: ild image its around. If you have an understanding of raid you can setup the drives as you wish
[19:49] <Maletor> Also I have all my data in RAID 5 now so the ONLY way for me to go about changing the RAID number around (since it is software) is to backup everything right?
[19:51] <will> Hi. I keep running into this issue where my X session seems to freeze. The mouse cursor is frozen with some icon (that looks like a word doc), but I can't click on anything/any other window. But the windows themselves are being updated (I have another IRC window open, that is still working, for example)
[19:51] <Oer> yes, you better backup data using software raid, Maletor
[19:51] <will> Just wondering if there's something I can restart to make this all work again...
[19:52] <gladiator> whats would be the location of cache in google chrome?
[19:52] <Atlas> general file permissions question: do services like apache and vsftpd access files with the permissions under "other"?
[19:52] <Atlas> gladiator, app data iirc
[19:52] <Peeteer> So does anyone have any idea why numbers dont work on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j laptop after a fresh install of ubuntu with wubi installer, apart from the numlock key idea of edbian and magicianlord ?
[19:52] <FBP> Hi. I have a 64 bit pentium. Do I download amd64 or i386?
[19:52] <will> amd64
[19:52] <will> FBP: --^
[19:52] <Atlas> it doest list them as a files though, its one gigantic blob
[19:53] <FBP> Thanks!
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> gladiator: I believe $HOME/.config/ someplace or $HOME/.google
[19:53] <gladiator> ActionParsnip, ok thanks. let me try
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> FBP: if you want a 64bit OS, grab them AMD64 iso
[19:53] <Peeteer> by the way i did try to google it :)
[19:53] <Nijverheid> in ubuntu 10.something, I do a2enmod php5 (to get php5 working with apache and it says ERROR: Module php5 does not exist! even though it's clearly in mods-available... help? plz :)
[19:54] <mek||malloc> I think it would probably be .chromium or some such, rather than .google
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> FBP: if you have less than 3Gb RAM and only need web browsing and desktop stuff like that then 32bit is great
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: if its 10.10 then your support isn't here so the something is important
[19:55] <mek||malloc> Nijverheid: sudo apt-get install php5 ?
[19:55] <sergio__> salve a tutti
[19:55] <Nijverheid> mek||malloc: already installed
[19:55] <Nijverheid> ActionParsnip: I'll check now
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[19:55] <berkay_> Hey! I still cant get any sound from my front panel. my sound card chip is "N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller" I think i actually get sound from both Front and Rear ,but sound is very low from front. and I cant serparte them. It says only one output.
[19:55] <sergio__> !list
[19:56] <Nijverheid> ActionParsnip: Lucid
[19:56] <mek||malloc> Everyone should: emacs -nw ~/.bashrc -> + alias install='sudo apt-get install ' -> source ~/.bashrc
[19:56] <Atlas> berkay_, use the back then :)
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: good, you are fully supported here :)
[19:56] <Nijverheid> ActionParsnip: good to know ;)
[19:56] <xmad> Nijverheid, I had the same problem, you just have to add php5 manually on apache
[19:57] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: How would I install grub2 onto a SD drive? I mean, how would it know where to look for my drives, how it mount my drives? Would I point it at /dev/md1? So many questions...
[19:57] <xmad> I don't remember exactly how I did it but it was too simple
[19:57] <cranil> hey guys how good/bad is Ubuntu on Dell Studio?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> cranil: depends on the exact hardware
[19:57] <Nijverheid> xmad: haha, I'll google it. Cheers for the tip though :)
[19:58] <Atlas> cranil, depends
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> cranil: check the hcl
[19:58] <mek||malloc> ^ ?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: use the ubuntu livecd and the grub2 doc and you can install it there
[19:58] <flux_> hi there. my laptop is kind of broken, but when i manage to get ubuntu working, it is a charm! the problem is, it only boots 1 / 2 times and since i updated after lucid default install, it always breaks when x is started. how can i failsafeX, since the live CD ALWAYS manages to boot? i tried removing "quiet splash", even adding single user boot - but then it breaks when the framebuffer is loaded (all my computers do then)
[19:59] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: I can't use the liveCD if I want to set up RAID, I would need alternate.
[19:59] <flux_> i tried searching for it and googling for it - i even managed to do so before, but after grub2 got introduced i cannot even disable x at startup at all
[19:59] <flux_> which would be enough
[19:59] <mek||malloc> I've been pretty well supported for ubuntu on every dell I've tried...  back to a dell latitude c400 laptop
[19:59] <Nijverheid> uggg, I just remembered I installed php5 from source >_< this is going to be fun lol
[19:59] <xmad> Nijverheid, I tried adding how to do that here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP but it was blocked couldn't add it and now I forgot how :(
[19:59] <cranil> I'm buying the one which is Rs. 48,400:
[19:59] <cranil> http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/notebooks/laptop-studio-1555/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-1555&s=dhs&cs=indhs1&~ck=mn
[19:59] <flux_> the live cd somehow understands my laptop's difficulties, thus starting failsafeX, but unfortunately the desktop does not
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: sure, I think you MAY be able to have the sd card in the system at install and set it to mount as /boot and install grub to it in one move :)
[20:00] <Atlas> flux, are you sayng you dont want/need x at all?
[20:00] <DormantOden> hey, is it possible to run multiple kill commands in bash?
[20:00] <flux_> would be a charm for debugging purposes, but i cannot find gdm anymore...
[20:00] <mek||malloc> flux_: So you've tried changing your /etc/inittab or whatnot to boot into multi-user mode with no X and then manually startx / initx?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> DormantOden: sure: kill pid1; kill pid2; kill pid3....
[20:00] <flux_> since upstart got introduced i do not have a inittab
[20:00] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: Also, can I remove a partition if I want. I have a swap in md2 in RAID 0 across 4 drives. Can I get rid of this and throw it onto the RAID5?
[20:00] <mek||malloc> DormantOden: You can write a bash script
[20:01] <jrendil> hello
[20:01] <flux_> so i can set my machine to run in runlevel 4 using inittab?
[20:01] <mek||malloc> #!/bin/bash
[20:01] <DormantOden> ahh, I did somthing silly with my script. Thanks =P
[20:01] <Atlas> does apache2 access file with root privaledges?
[20:01] <jrendil> is anybody here knowledgeable about dmraid ?
[20:01] <maco> flux_: runlevels, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are all the same in ubuntu...
[20:01] <mek||malloc> Or, I believe you can use && @ DormantOden
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: should be ok. I'm too tired to make a call like that dude
[20:01] <flux_> oh i see
[20:02] <mek||malloc> That's what I was thinking, at least until you can update whatever libs are causing your problems
[20:02] <mek||malloc> Or see if the problem is your xorg.conf, something with xrandr
[20:02] <BluesKaj> !who | flux_ , mek||malloc
[20:02] <mek||malloc> Or if it's gnome, (or fluxbox) whatever window manager you're using.
[20:02] <mek||malloc> Sounds like an X problem to me, though
[20:03] <flux_> cannot i mv /etc/init/gdm* to prohibit gdm?
[20:03] <stealth_> K guys, i tried following the instructions for installing truecrypt on 10.04 but its still not working, anyone mind guiding me through it/
[20:03] <mek||malloc> BluesKaj: Sorry about that. Will do.
[20:03] <mek||malloc> flux_: You also may wish to see what kernel you're using versus what kernel is loaded on the live cd
[20:04] <alkisg> Usually in ubuntu apt-get is suggested instead of aptitude, but I couldn't find any reason for preferring apt-get in google. Any pointers?
[20:04] <flux_> i tried booting the cd kernel already
[20:04] <dawning_> Howdy - I've just set up a Mirrored LVM - anyone have experience with how sturdy these things are?
[20:04] <DormantOden> mek: I'm writing it in a #!/bin/sh script, and although using ';' or '&&' works for everything else, it dosen't seem to work for kill commands :/
[20:05] <BluesKaj> alkisg, apt-get in google ?
[20:05] <DormantOden> mel: but if it really should, I guess there's somthing i've missed in the scipt
[20:05] <DormantOden> *mek:
[20:05] <Nijverheid> it must be said, the most frustrating thing is that all these websites have threads which say "do this to httpd.conf" or whatever, but in Ubuntu, it all works completely differently >_> why?
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> alkisg: type less
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> alkisg: saves time
[20:05] <alkisg> BluesKaj: yes, apt-get in google didn't tell me why people use it instead of aptitude...
[20:05] <ninjai> Has anyone else noticed that ubuntu 10.04 is kind of randomly slow for seemingly no reason?
[20:05] <ablyss> greycat, tonights winning lotto number?
[20:05] <alkisg> aeon-ltd: a different tool just for less typing? ok, but it sounds strange..
[20:06] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | alkisg
[20:06] <aeon-ltd> alkisg: yeah i know it could have just been aliased
[20:06] <mek||malloc> DormantOden: Ah, I understand. You can try a little for loop with a kill by regex pattern? Would be really easy to do in perl as well... But depends what exactly you're trying to do.
[20:06] <alkisg> BluesKaj: I'm just curious about the "apt-get vs aptitute"  "debate", I do know how to use both of them...
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: aptitude gives more (pointless) information about the package like if its been installed before and other stuff, aptitude also gives a console based gui
[20:07] <cranil> I heard that Ubuntu doesnt work very well with ATI-graphics cards is it still that bad?
[20:07]  * Nijverheid stabs PHP5 and Apache server
[20:07] <kermit> how do i use network manager with a bridge device?  it makes me pick wired or wireless
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: you can use them interchangably
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, FYI aptitude isn't installed by default in the upcoming 10.10
[20:07] <headkase314> cranil, my Ati Radeon HD 4670 is working fine here.
[20:07] <cranil> what about the 5470?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> alkisg, personally I prefer aptitude , was told by some ppl "in the know" that it resolves dependencies more thoroughly than the apt-get comand
[20:07] <alkisg> ActionParsnip, ZykoticK9: e.g. how would I do "aptitude changelog package" with apt-get ?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> cranil: there are proprietary drivers. Www.ati.com will show you what is supported. Old cards work too with the open driver
[20:08] <nitrogoldfish> ZykoticK9: why? my understanding was aptitude was preferred overapt-get apt-cache apt-[whatever else it has]
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, sorry i don't know/use the changelog stuff (and i should)
[20:08] <maco> BluesKaj: i was told by the kubuntu developers (including a core-dev) that aptitude resolves more poorly than apt-get
[20:08] <flux_> mek||malloc, ty. mentioning inittab made the trick. i man'ed for the rest. /etc/init/gdm.conf should be enough for me
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: I don't know. I only use apt-get
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> nitrogoldfish, in Debian yes, in ubuntu no.
[20:08] <iElectric> guys, what's the procedure purging a package that fails to do so?
[20:08] <maco> BluesKaj: "braindead" was the word they used
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: sudo apt-get --purge packagename
[20:09] <nitrogoldfish> ZykoticK9: at risk of sounding like a 5-year-old....why?
[20:09] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: that fails
[20:09] <edbian> nitrogoldfish, ZykoticK9 I was under the impression it was more opinion than anything. Is there something that doesn't work right about aptitude in Ubuntu>
[20:09] <edbian> ?
[20:09] <alkisg> Thank you guys... still wondering though, developing a whole new series of tools that do the same things like an existing tool still seems strange... :)
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> nitrogoldfish, i'm not sure???
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: can you give a pastebin of the output please
[20:09] <alkisg> Maybe the decision was based on their developement team members
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> edbian, "sudo aptitiude safe-upgrade" is required if you're getting a paritial update situation - so i'm not sure why it was removed from default install
[20:10] <^cheeky> hi, i have windows 7  installed already and i  am trying to install ubuntu 10.4 , but iam trying to create my partition of /home different from the / partition . i am at the prepare partition section of the ubuntu installation but i cant create my home partition. I think because i have more that 4 primary partition already and i need to know how i can get around this, here is a pic of partition setup in the ubuntu installer
[20:10] <^cheeky> http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/2624/img0540x.jpg. i thought i wold be safe installing windows first and the ubuntu as the windows would just mess up the bootloader
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: can't really since it's in a terminal without internet
[20:10] <philinux> alkisg: Have a read there are lots. http://www.google.com/search?q=aptitude+vs+apt-get&hl=en&prmd=df&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:y&sa=X&ei=5tJuTIiVHsiOjAf0yoj7CA&ved=0CAwQpwU
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: basically postrm is failinf
[20:10] <iElectric> failaing*
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: athough the script is empty
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: the package is nvidia-173
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: copy the text, paste to a text file. Whack the file on a removable media
[20:11] <alkisg> philinux: I did, and they all say that aptitude is better, so I'm wondering why ubuntu is prefering apt-get...
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: access it on a web enabled system and pastebin there
[20:11] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: it's bascially: error on exec formatting at postrm script
[20:11] <philinux> alkisg: I dont think there is any diif now really. In fact in 10.10 aptitude is no longer a default install
[20:11] <BluesKaj> alkisg, aptitude seems more conservative / cautious in it's approach to bringing in otherapps that are required as dependencies
[20:12] <maco> alkisg:  i've had it happen a few times that aptitude wants to remove or hold back half my system from updating but apt-get works fine
[20:12] <joiner> hi
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: neither is better, they are both better in different ways. If one was outright best, the other would not be added
[20:12] <mek||malloc> flux_: Glad you had some luck with your problem. Everyone needs some from time to time.
[20:12] <joiner> can HDMI works with ATI free driver?
[20:12] <alkisg> OK, thank you guys
[20:12] <maco> alkisg: every time i mention something about "hey guys the thing you uploaded isnt updating right for me" in #kubuntu-devel, they tell me to stop using that braindead aptitude and use apt-get..
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: is there a bug report for this? If you move the .postrm file for the package, it should uninstall clean
[20:13] <philinux> When I'm in my maverick install I always use this. aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> maco: weird
[20:13] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: no bug report yet, I'm guessing it's because I overriden with manual nvidia installation
[20:13] <iElectric> or jockey is hoding it back somehow
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> maco: good film though
[20:13] <ZykoticK9> philinux, with a development release safe-upgrade is important - less important in final releases though
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: most likely then
[20:13] <maco> ActionParsnip: film?
[20:13] <JoshuaL> What application can I use best to convert my videos to the format iPad accepts?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> maco: its a b horror movie. Its the sequel to Bad Taste
[20:14] <philinux> ZykoticK9: agreed.
[20:14] <muzo> hi every1
[20:14] <philinux> ZykoticK9: I only use apt-get in lucid
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: there is no best app for anything
[20:15] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, your right ;-) any application you recommend? :p
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: there are options and preferences and abilities, none are outright best. Each one may excel in a different way
[20:15] <peter___> can someone help me please? my gwibber account will not add my facebook account for some reason, i did check launchpad and reinstall and reboot but still not working
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> JoshuaL, i don't know what format iPad uses/accepts - but i'm going to guess MP4 (with AAC audio) - so Handbrake is probably your best bet on Ubuntu right now
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: handbrake or mencoder
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: won't it play the files as they are?
[20:16] <muzo> i have a free space. but i can not format it as any format to use it as storage. it gives this error : It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions. can you please help me.
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> JoshuaL, ffmpeg on ubuntu doesn't support AAC right now
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: what format are they?
[20:16] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, usually mkv. it has to be MP4 (with AAC audio) like ZykoticK9 said
[20:17] <BluesKaj> JoshuaL, don't forget ffmpeg can be very effective in the cli
[20:17] <JoshuaL> ill give handbrake a try :)
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: wow that's pretty poor, thought the ipad was meant to be amazing...
[20:17] <Peeteer> So does anyone have any idea why numbers dont work on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j laptop after a fresh install of ubuntu with wubi installer, apart from the numlock key idea of edbian and magicianlord ? By the way, i did try to google it, even forums
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, except for the AAC handycap
[20:17] <duffydack> my ffmpeg supports aac :)
[20:17] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, i hoped it would support more formats too
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: maybe ffmpeg can do it
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, non-repo based ffmpeg can
[20:18] <duffydack> yup
[20:18] <JoshuaL> ZykoticK9, said ffmpeg doesnt support AAC, so ill give handbrake a try :)
[20:18] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, hmm , never had a prob with ffmpeg , but I don't bother with aac
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: more rasons for folks not to buy one "by the way we don't support too many formats cos we're dumb so you'll need to convert ALL you stuff to fit around the lack of features"
[20:18] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, it's a "bug" legal issue (upstream however)
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> They should put that in the advert
[20:18] <JoshuaL> Thanks for the tips!
[20:19] <muzo> i have a free space. but i can not format it as any format to use it as storage. it gives this error : It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions. can you please help me.
[20:19] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, i can live with it, but it would have been nice if it did support more formats indeed
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> if only there was format neutrality
[20:19]  * BluesKaj seldom burns to dvd anymore
[20:19] <JoshuaL> the device is not that amazing imo
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: +1, ogg preferably :)
[20:20] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: There exists nothing outside quicktime --Apple
[20:20] <Atlas> is there a way to read file permissions in the octal format?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: true, the religion of Jobs
[20:20] <Scunizi> Is there a way to unpack a .dmg file (it's a mac file)
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Atlas: sure: read = 4, write = 2 execute = 1
[20:21] <aeon-ltd> Scunizi: its a iso basically try mounting it
[20:21] <Atlas> ActionParsnip,  i mean a command to display them
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Atlas: not sure personally, maybe someone else knows
[20:21] <kermit> aeon-ltd: i htought you had to convert it to hfs first
[20:21] <kermit> Scunizi: if that doesnt work, apt-cache search dmg  .. then install that package
[20:21] <tembrae> !gwibber
[20:21] <Scunizi> aeon-ltd: ah.. ok.. but wouldn't mounting it try to run it? I don't want that.  I just want to extract a file from it.
[20:21] <kermit> Scunizi: then mount the hfs.. if you cant just mount that dmg
[20:22] <kermit> Scunizi: no mounting doesnt run things
[20:22] <muzo> please someone help me :( why i can not use my free space :(
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Atlas: if you use: ls -la file ,you can manually calculate it, the first character is a special one, so miss that
[20:22] <Scunizi> kermit: k..
[20:22] <aeon-ltd> !details | muzo
[20:22] <tembrae> help pls my gwibber does not add facebook, i reinstalled it like launchpad recommend but not working..
[20:22] <earthling_> How do I open an .odt file in Abiword?
[20:22] <ZykoticK9> Atlas it's an interesting question, i was hoping someone had an answer - but i think ActionParsnip is correct, the person needs to do the conversion mentally ;)
[20:23] <^cheeky> hehe
[20:23] <Scunizi> kermit: apt-cache returns "dmg2img".. " Tool for converting compress dmg files to hfsplus images" ... does that mean it will convert to an .iso?
[20:23] <bcbc2> muzo: you can't have more than 4 primary partitions. You'll have to delete a primary partition, create an extended partition and then you can create multiple partitions within that
[20:23] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: hi mate...I ended up reformatting and starting again....this time round I installed "current", then installed 195 over the top...all is well so far :D
[20:23] <Peeteer> Well, okay, im not gonna flood this channel with my question, thank you for the help both of you edbian and magicianlord. Ill try the numlock, maybe she didnt notice the problem.
[20:24] <kermit> Scunizi: no, hfs.. you can mount the hfs though.. (assuming you couldnt just mount the dmg like aeon-ltd suggested)
[20:24] <Peeteer> Good night for everyone, (it is night time for me :) )
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[20:25] <Leif> Oh joy not again. :(
[20:25] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: thanks for all your help earlier on.   I have a plantronics wireless USB headset. The question is, how the hell do I install the drivers for it, as I have not found one tutorial that explains how to do it or where to find the drivers to install?
[20:25] <DrGrov> This channel is screwed
[20:25] <^cheeky> lol
[20:25] <Pici> Please stop comenting on the spam.
[20:25] <jpds> DrGrov: Not really.
[20:25] <tembrae> can someone help me please? my gwibber account will not add my facebook account for some reason, i did check launchpad and reinstall and reboot but still not working
[20:25] <DrGrov> Pici: What? I can not comment on the spam?
[20:25] <kthomas_vh_> DrGrov, only happens occasionally
[20:26] <iElectric> how to boot into terminal in lucid?
[20:26] <vect> everybody ignore the man behind the curtain
[20:26] <DrGrov> Pici: Who are you to tell me what to comment and not?
[20:26] <jpds> DrGrov: An op?
[20:26] <maco> stealth_: shouldnt need to..
[20:26] <kthomas_vh_> and usually the complainers are the largest part of the problem
[20:26] <stealth_> Maco
[20:26] <maco> DrGrov: an op
[20:26] <LjL> !offtopic | DrGrov
[20:26] <ThomasB2k> Commenting on the spam won't make them think they've reached their goal. If they're banned, then they won't see the commenting.
[20:26] <iElectric> can't seem to find a way to remove gdm from upstart
[20:26] <vect> ##comment-on-spam
[20:26] <noatime> does anybody know how to turn off the insanely annoying notifications in gnome?  they pop up even on top of video games.
[20:26] <stealth_> I plug the usb device in, turn the wireless headset on and then it does nothing maco
[20:26] <maco> ThomasB2k: however it /is/ offtopic
[20:26] <DrGrov> kthomas_vh_: Oh, big words there.
[20:26] <muzo>  bcbc2:  ubottu:  aeon-ltd: i use ubuntu 10.04 (updated). i have gparted. i dont know the command to give you my partition list. please tell me to give you the details. i want to make the last parttion as ext but i cant.
[20:26] <feydr> having to poweroff through a button in maverick ... what log file should I look for to see what is going on?
[20:26] <rww> feydr: maverick support in #ubuntu+1, not here
[20:26] <ThomasB2k> there should be a channel for commenting on spam then :p
[20:27] <noatime> TheFuzzball: whoever's spamming probably has a host that's staying in channel so they can see what goes on
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> iElectric, see my steps at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[20:27] <noatime> I mean ThomasB2k
[20:27] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, well, there were some suggestions which probly put things offtrack and it seems there was something screwey with the drivers .
[20:27] <squirrel_labs> does commenting on spam become spam?
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> muzo: take a screenshot and upload it
[20:27] <TheFuzzball> :)
[20:27] <squirrel_labs> hmm
[20:27] <feydr> rww: thnx
[20:27] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: yeah I guess
[20:27] <DrGrov> But my legitimate Ubuntu question is actually the following: Why the hell is not the new kernel on Ubuntu 10.04 working out very well? .... The old kernel did not give any major problems at all. The stock that came with 10.04
[20:28] <iElectric> ZykoticK9: clever
[20:28] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: anyway, all seems to be well.  I have my outstanding "duplicate SMB shares under Places" issue...but that can wait for another day UI guess
[20:28] <maco> stealth_: all existing alsa (linux audio) drivers are installed by default, i believe... so if its not working, it lacks support
[20:28] <stealth_> maco, so what you are saying is my headset is useless on ubuntu?
[20:28] <^cheeky> if i want to install home on a different partition even thought i have windows installed .. and when i try create a separate partition .. i create fifth one which ubuntu does not let me install , so do i have to remove the windows partition .. and re-do it all over again ?
[20:28] <maco> stealth_: likely, yes
[20:29] <jpds> DrGrov: Have you tried asking #ubuntu-kernel ?
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: i mean, check mixer settings in "alsamixer" to be sure....
[20:29] <DrGrov> jpds: Actually this is the first place I thought to ask in
[20:29] <DrGrov> I head over there
[20:29] <stealth_> How do I do that maco
[20:29] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you do a manual install without formatting to preserve your app config files ?
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: by typing "alsamixer" in a terminal and hitting enter
[20:29] <tembrae> this should have been an easy question for u, i guess gwibber is not a good app since no one use it i guess
[20:29] <stealth_> Ok, and what should that bring up maco
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: oh and check whether pulseaudio is set to output to the built-in sound card or the USB sound card...
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: it brings up a volume thing..
[20:30] <jlab> could someone help me figure out why amarok wont find my itunes music, its on a sperate partition and i have the box checked to it so it'll search that folder but nothing shows
[20:30] <maco> stealth_: use arrow keys to raise/lower volumes and M to mute/unmute
[20:30] <muzo> aeon-ltd:  http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4767/screenshotqx.jpg
[20:30] <OmegaPhil> Random question: On GNOME, does anyone know an applet that allows you to create and display an arbitrary graph of data?
[20:30] <OmegaPhil> Kind of like compa (http://code.google.com/p/compa/) displays the text output of a script, but in this case feed that into a graph
[20:30] <stealth_> Yeah maco, i put in alsamixer and it comes up with a bunch of settings
[20:30] <maco> stealth_: to change whether pulseaudio uses onboard or usb, run "pavucontrol" (which i dont think is installed by default)
[20:30] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, delete one of your unused partitions and format that one
[20:30] <stealth_> Ok let me check maco 2 mins
[20:30] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: nahhh...I just wiped.  I had backed up a load of important files from the first format yesterday
[20:30] <muzo>  bcbc2:  ubottu:  aeon-ltd: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4767/screenshotqx.jpg
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> muzo: sorry to point out the obvious but you ca't create more than 4 primary partitions you need to create it as extended/logical
[20:31] <bcbc2> muzo: you should be able to resize the extended partition, and then create a new logical
[20:31] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, ok , good call
[20:31] <maco> stealth_: sorry when i went to driver bit, i was assuming you'd already checked volume and set the system to use the headset
[20:31] <stealth_> Got it maco, I just had to press f6 and select the soundcard
[20:31] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I'm nothing, if not thorough!
[20:31] <muzo> bcbc2: aeon-ltd: please tell it easy. i dont know english.
[20:31] <muzo> aeon-ltd: just tell me move sda xx ... bla bla...
[20:32] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, ffmpeg from repo with medibuntu extras supports aac with libfaac
[20:32] <stealth_> wait
[20:32] <yashi-> when i draw something in gimp my the line follows extremely slow the mouse cursor...is that normal?
[20:32] <stealth_> maco its still not working
[20:32] <flux_> mek||malloc, sorry for highlight, in case you are interested: the only problem was the framebuffer. funnily it gets loaded with the livecd after x starts, which seems to be fine (an egg dropped on my laptop, so it behaves weirdly). anyhow, rm /etc/init/gdm.conf makes ubuntu boot to terminal instead of starting X. the best thing is: i do not have to fall back to vesa! all i have to give up is the framebuffer
[20:33] <stealth_> in alsamixer6 i selected the wireless usb device as a soundcard but its still coming out the speakers
[20:33] <bcbc2> muzo: click on the line for /dev/sda4, then click on Partition, then Resize
[20:33] <maco> stealth_: does pavucontrol show the headset?
[20:33] <stealth_> let me check
[20:33] <neri> hi what`s the difference btw apt-cacher and apt-mirror if i want to create a repo server in my lan
[20:33] <bcbc2> muzo: you should do this froma live CD if /dev/sda5 is mounted
[20:33] <neri> ?
[20:33] <stealth_> gotta install it first maco, give mea min
[20:33] <maco> stealth_: for each application that's using sound, you can specify in pavucontrol whether it should use speakers or headset, so you can have skype on headset and music on speakers or whatever
[20:33] <jlab> amarok isnt finding my itunes music, does anyone know why
[20:33] <muzo> bcbc2: hmm from live cd...
[20:33] <stealth_> ok
[20:34] <flux_> i am sorry i was mistaken, livecd never started fb
[20:34] <gnomefreak> jlab: did you try in #kubuntu?
[20:34] <VincentSnijders> hi, I have a problem with my 6 year old laptop running ubuntu 10.4: if I suspend or hibernate, I get disk read errors after wakeup and I need to reboot to get a working computer. Does any body have an idea how I can make 'suspend' work?
[20:34] <muzo> bcbc2: i will restart now the computer. but please tell first. i will reise the sda4 and then ?
[20:34] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: see iam in a mess the copy win7 i have is given to me through my college with strong attacjed like i am only allowed to install it once and only updates as long as i remain in college taking classes , so if i remove that partition i wont be able to install windows 7 andi have to wait till schools starts to get another copy or what ever so i need to know if i can dual boot this machine with both OS without sacrificing the
[20:34] <^cheeky> windows partition, here is an image of where i am stuck at http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/2624/img0540x.jpg
[20:34] <flux_> so da** you fb! you awful culprit
[20:34] <maco> flux_: obfuscated swearing is still swearing
[20:34] <flux_> i apologize
[20:34] <earthling_> How do I open an .odt file in Abiword? it says error importing file
[20:34] <jlab> gnomefreak, should i ask it there? It seemed like a popular program in ubuntu as well
[20:34] <^cheeky> attatched
[20:35] <stealth_> Maco i got the headset working using pavucontrol
[20:35] <maco> stealth_: great
[20:35] <stealth_> thanks so much mate
[20:35] <gnomefreak> jlab: yes start there
[20:35] <stealth_> Apart from one thing
[20:35] <gnomefreak> jlab: its not a GTK app but a QT app
[20:35] <stealth_> the volumes stuck to nearly ful even when i turn the sound down
[20:35] <bcbc2> muzo: first, backing up data before playing with the partitions is recommended. Then you can boot from a live CD, run gparted. Select /dev/sda4, resize it to take up remaining space, then create a new logical partition in that space.
[20:35] <stealth_> NVM maco I got it
[20:35] <stealth_> Thanks again for your help
[20:36] <muzo> bcbc2:  ok thanks i will do it.
[20:36] <stealth_> (Finally getting ubuntu working for me, TrueCrypt and My headset are working, good stuff good stuff)
[20:36] <binni> I want to backup my home folder, it's about 64gb, there may be some files not owned by the user who owns the home folder, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04, I'm thinking maybe create "home.tar.gz" file somehow, any tips?
[20:37] <neri> hi what`s the difference btw apt-cacher and apt-mirror if i want to create a repo server in my lan?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, what other OS's are on the drive ?...you can use windows to download and burn gparted live cd , a really good partition editor which you canuse to format and setup ext3/4 for ubuntu, without losing windows
[20:37] <VincentSnijders> !nl
[20:38] <BluesKaj> !gparted | ^cheeky
[20:39] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: well only windows and ubuntu , i was just thnking choose the option where you can tell ubunut installer to have both os side by side, but it wont have a different home tho
[20:39] <sensae> Hello. How can I kill empathy over SSH? Every time I kill the process /usr/bin/empathy -h it respawns with a different process ID
[20:40] <E3b> hello, is it possible to connect esata to esata between ubuntu(PC) and windows7 (Laptop) ? when I connect the esata cable, nothing change in dmesg... someone can help me please?
[20:40] <^cheeky> i could install side by side and the move home partition .. to a seprate partition later /.
[20:40] <Muscovy> sensae: you could always killall empathy.
[20:40] <sensae> Muscovy: It respawns.
[20:40] <Muscovy> Is it set to autostart?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky,  that's not such a terrible sacrifice , just one partition for ubuntu isn't the end of the world :)
[20:41] <sensae> Muscovy: No, I just happened to leave it running on my desktop.
[20:41] <jimcooncat> sensae: must be a way to get the parent id of it
[20:41] <^cheeky> blue
[20:41] <ozzloy> mek||malloc, memtest86 came back clean
[20:42] <Muscovy> sensae: What version are you in?
[20:42] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: you mean just utilize the rest of teh free space .. and not have home on a different partition ?
[20:42] <ozzloy> haven't tried an earlier version of the kernel though
[20:42] <sensae> Muscovy: Lucid. Is that what you mean?
[20:42] <Muscovy> Yes.
[20:43] <Muscovy> Hmm, I don't know.
[20:43] <^cheeky> *teh == the
[20:43] <Muscovy> Maybe get the PID and file a bug report on it?
[20:44] <mek||malloc> ozzloy: I'd suggest that.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> exactly, ^cheeky , if you need to reinstall ubuntu for some reason just use the manual partition option without reformatting and once installed , some non default apps may be missing but the config files will be reatined so all the settings for those apps will revert to settings on the previous install.
[20:44] <constantin_mike> hello. i have a small problem. mysql starts as service on boot, although i have disabled it from rcconf. what can i do to prevent it to start on boot?
[20:45] <ninjai> uninstall it?
[20:45] <E3b> hello, is it possible to connect esata to esata between ubuntu(PC) and windows7 (Laptop) ? when I connect the esata cable, nothing change in dmesg... someone can help me please?
[20:45] <ninjai> or just from boot
[20:45] <ninjai> ?
[20:45] <constantin_mike> ninjai: i need it :)
[20:45] <constantin_mike> just from boot
[20:45] <ninjai> okay
[20:45] <constantin_mike> i want to "service mysql start" it, but only when needed
[20:45] <ninjai> it must be in one of the rc.X folders..
[20:45] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: You can either look at your /etc/init.d/mysql script... Or you can add a killall mysql in your /etc/rc.local.
[20:46] <ninjai> i think you can remove it from there but im not sure..
[20:46] <ninjai> you could make a startup script: service mysqld stop
[20:46] <jimcooncat> sensae: what's the PID?
[20:46] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: Someone may have a better suggestion than that, but those are potential solutions.
[20:46] <jramsey> trying to get a usb gps working (garmin); when i plug it in i get this in dmesg: [ 2806.180081] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2[ 2806.341288] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[20:46] <jramsey>  my question is what's the assigned /dev device name?
[20:46] <antagomir> EXIT
[20:46] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: My suggestions still holds, I believe.
[20:47] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: so just choose the option ""install  them side by side choosing them each startup" even though windows is installed first and it wont mess up the bootloader after the installartion:S
[20:47] <antagomir> hmm
[20:47] <constantin_mike> ninjai: yes but ... it will always ask for sudo passwd
[20:47] <kitply> hi, i am trying to login into my university server ravikumj<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using ssh. but i am getting message 'ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host'
[20:47] <kitply> can you help me resolve the issue
[20:47] <jimcooncat> sensae, this will give you the parent: ps -ppid PID
[20:48] <jimcooncat> sensae, oops, that's with two hyphens: ps --ppid PID
[20:48] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, do you mean the package aacplusenc in medibuntu by chance?  i'm having difficulties confirming medibuntu allows ffmpeg to use aac.
[20:49] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, yes , you said windows is alrady installed , so installing ubuntu will also install grub2 which will ses the windows partition and include it in the boot menu
[20:49] <ninjai> constantin_mike: no, if you run the script from the rc.X directories it wont, that's all run as root when the system is booting
[20:49] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, no, libfaac.  I just tested it.  I knew it supported it but it wasnt 100% as i not used it in forever
[20:49] <gnuskool> allo allo
[20:49] <mek||malloc> kitply: Maybe they use a port other than 22? Also, make sure the IP is right? Finally, you may need cVPN to get within their network?
[20:50] <jramsey> if it doesnt show up in dmesg, how do i know what /dev device is assigned to a usb device?
[20:50] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: nice
[20:50] <iElectric> is there a way to run jocket in single mode?
[20:50] <mek||malloc> jramsey: If you want the device name in /dev, you can always: sudo fdisk -l to list available devices
[20:50] <duffydack> ZykoticK9,  I never bother with repo ffmpegs, they are horribly out of date and crippled
[20:50] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, "apt-cache policy libfaac0" shows ubuntu
[20:50] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: ffmpeg -formats 2>/dev/null | grep aac --> EA    libfaac         libfaac AAC (Advanced Audio Codec)
[20:51] <jramsey> mek||malloc, no the garmin usb gps doesn't show up in an fdisk partition list
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL,  D  aac             raw ADTS AAC
[20:51] <mek||malloc> jramsey: Ah, misunderstood.
[20:51] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, let me rephrase that , grub will include windows in the boot menu , if you use the alternate install then the install procedure will ask you if you want o install grub and then it will ask if yo want windows included in the grub/boot menu
[20:52] <Doyle> Anyone here an airmiles member? I'm wondering if the site works well for other linux users.
[20:52] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, well all I did was add medibuntu, and install ffmpeg libavcodec-extra-52
[20:52] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: that with medibuntu one i got three outputs. that one you paste the one i pasted and D A    aac             Advanced Audio Coding
[20:53] <guntbert> jramsey: have a look at /var/log/syslog   -- not everything shows up in dmesg in my experience
[20:53] <sensae> Figured it out if anyone is interested. Telepathy is the parent process.
[20:54] <mek||malloc> jramsey: There's a program called GpsDrive which may be able to identify the device.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> Doyle, probly depends on the browser
[20:54] <Doyle> BluesKaj: Both FF and Chrome - horrible slowness.
[20:55] <BluesKaj> Doyle, airmiles.com ?
[20:55] <ozzloy> mek||malloc, that didn't work either T_T
[20:55] <jramsey> guntbert, mek||malloc i get msgs in syslog like dmesg shows; it starts with "usb 4-1" but no /dev device. when i insert, e.g., a PharOs usb gps it shows in syslog a device like /dev/ttyUSB0
[20:55] <Doyle> BluesKaj: airmiles.ca
[20:57] <mek||malloc> ozzloy: If you can get to a command line, perhaps trying to update your graphics cards drivers?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> Doyle, hmm, a bit slow , maybe 3 secs here
[20:58] <Doyle> BluesKaj: ok thanks for checking. Must be me
[20:58] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I have an idea... Check your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file
[20:58] <BluesKaj> Doyle, got flashplugin installed?
[20:58] <noatime> How do I turn off notifications in gnome?
[20:58] <constantin_mike> mek||malloc, ninjai thank you for your support. i'm rebooting my system to check if it worked
[20:58] <guntbert> jramsey: if I remember correctly it gets only assingned a /dev/tty... if the system recognizes it as something like a modem (there was this problem with 3G modems which appear as a CD on plug in)
[20:58] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: Good luck
[20:58] <Doyle> BluesKaj: yep
[20:59] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I'd consider guntbert's comment, also make sure the device isn't blacklisted under /etc/modprob.d/blacklist (#comment out blacklist garmin_gps -- if it exists)
[20:59] <BluesKaj> hmm Doyle , i'm on bell dsl as well , seems ok to me
[20:59] <ThomasB2k> Are there any good GTD applications like Tasque or Getting Things GNOME that allow you to specify a time.
[21:00] <ThomasB2k> I've tried GTG and Tasque, but I can only set a date.
[21:00] <jramsey> mek||malloc, yeah i think i saw garmin in there but not sure why usb wouldn't recognize it unless the blacklist thing prevents it
[21:00] <jramsey> mek||malloc, if i comment out the black list line, do i have to restart anything?
[21:01] <Doyle> BluesKaj: Ahhh it is me. Man. Going to setup dual boot with XP now...  The only downside for me.
[21:01] <_DGM_> Doyle: i have no problems with flash under linux (anymore)
[21:01] <Doyle> _DGM_: anymore?
[21:01] <_DGM_> it used to be crappy about a year ago but since i run karmic i have no problems
[21:01] <Doyle> _DGM_: what version of flash are you using?
[21:02] <_DGM_> Doyle: chrome build-in
[21:02] <BluesKaj> Doyle,  flash is fine here , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  ...see what happens
[21:02] <mek||malloc> jramsey: Good question. One second
[21:02] <_DGM_> i use google chrome which has flash build-in so that works fine anyway
[21:02] <jramsey> mek||malloc, that was it
[21:02] <jramsey> it's not ttyUSB0
[21:02] <undecim> When using strace on a certain program, I find the system call that I'm looking for, but instead of listing the arguements to the call, it just says "/* 40 vars */" Is there any way to see those arguments?
[21:02] <jramsey> now
[21:02] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I'm glad.
[21:02] <Doyle> BluesKaj: _DGM_ I'm under lucid. I've tried the newest flash .so files and it just doesn't fly for me
[21:03] <duffydack> Ive heard the chrome one built in is supposedly very good..
[21:03] <turt1e> noatime:  well the notifications are handled by notify-osd  you could always run a script to kill it on startup
[21:03] <mek||malloc> jramsey: Did you have to restart?
[21:03] <noatime> turt1e: ooh, good to know, thanks
[21:03] <white_magic> anyone here have an x-fi card?
[21:03] <jramsey> mek||malloc, no, just pulled the gps out and back in and it now assigns a tty dev; thanks a lot for your help
[21:03] <_DGM_> Doyle: you could try google chrome and see if its your pc/system or flash as a whole
[21:03] <_DGM_> Doyle: google chrome doesnt use the dynamic flash libs
[21:03] <MaJic_NinJa> to me google chrome beta works better with the flash
[21:03] <BluesKaj> Doyle, "newest flash" and that's from adobe website or the ubuntu repos ?
[21:04] <mek||malloc> jramsey: My pleasure. Happy gps hacking
[21:04] <turt1e> noatime:  check this link out if you just want to change the settings to make it less annoying http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/gui-to-configure-notifyosd-in-ubuntu.html
[21:04] <jramsey> mek||malloc, if you ever have the need to mess with gps beware ... they all have proprietary extensions and gpsd is a huge pain with certain devices
[21:04] <Doyle> _DGM_: BluesKaj: chrome is slightly better. I try the beta flashplayer.so files wehenver they're released
[21:04] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I'll keep that in mind. Sounds like hell.
[21:05] <jramsey> the gps protocol is a mess
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Doyle, flashplayer isn't a good idea, use the flashplugin installer from the repos or package manager
[21:06] <Doyle> BluesKaj: either way gives me about the same level of performance. Think a 2yo laptop with built-in intel gma graphics is just too slow?
[21:06] <white_magic> no one here has an x-fi card?
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Doyle, nope my acer laptop - elcheapo works fine with the flashplugin , I neber use the flashplayer proprietary apps
[21:07] <BluesKaj> neber-never
[21:07] <eax> Hi there - Is it possible to try out the new Unity-shell somehow?
[21:08] <Delvien> _DGM_ what version of chrome are you using?
[21:08] <MaJic_NinJa> white majic i have one but not on my ubuntu machine :(
[21:08] <Delvien> _DGM_: because my chrome internal flash doesnt work : (
[21:08] <Doyle> BluesKaj: well, that's good. I'm going to try a clean install and see what happens. Thanks BluesKaj _DGM_
[21:08] <_DGM_> Delvien: 5.0.375.126
[21:08] <white_magic> majic_ninja: i see
[21:08] <nikitis> Why would an ntfs mounted drive mount, but not show the file conents?
[21:09] <nikitis> It's not encrypted
[21:09] <BluesKaj> Doyle, no need for a clean install , just remove the flashplayer , then install from the repos
[21:09] <_DGM_> is there a working lucid chroot package? apparently karmic has a too old kernel-package
[21:09] <Doyle> BluesKaj: I'll try that first, thanks
[21:10] <Doyle> BluesKaj: I'm a big fan of clean installs  ;P
[21:10] <hiexpo> to old kernal
[21:11] <_DGM_> nevermind i think i got it
[21:11] <SamekhMem> hi all - I hope you can help me. I've got an ubuntu box set up with ntop and I'm going to be using it for traffic monitoring. only issue - i can't find my switch's web interface to set up port mirroring
[21:12] <SamekhMem> any ideas guys? please?
[21:12] <jramsey> mek||malloc, my test python script works ... thanks again
[21:12] <Atlas> SamekhMem, what kind of switch?
[21:12] <SamekhMem> Atlas: a dlink des-3010
[21:13] <Atlas> ¯\(°_o)/¯ sorry
[21:14] <SamekhMem> oh :(
[21:14] <Atlas> i dont even know what port mirroring is :D
[21:14] <LinuxFetus> Hey I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 32 bit and Windows XP on my laptop.  When I'm running Windows XP, my battery lasts for around 2 hours.  When I'm running Ubuntu, it's closer to an hour.  I just installed Ubuntu on a friend's computer that had XP and his Ubuntu lasted longer than his XP... I am trying to figure out what's different with his.  When I execute "top" I see compiz -- I'm thinking maybe the 3-d graphics are detrimental to
[21:14] <LinuxFetus> my battery life?  Any thoughts?  Thanks!
[21:14] <guntbert> SamekhMem: I'd say that question would get better answers in ##networking
[21:15] <mek||malloc> Cheers, I'm going to make some dinner. Back in a few.
[21:15] <Oer> LinuxFetus, 2 different laptops, 2 different state of battery.
[21:16] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, im curious, what processor is it? i know an atom +gma 945 has gigantically differing power modes
[21:16] <LinuxFetus> His is older than mine :X
[21:17] <_DGM_> you probably need some kernel module for your powersaving
[21:17] <Atlas> lenovo laptops in my experience have excelent battery life compared to others
[21:17] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: It's a Dell Inspriron 1300-something I think.  Mine's a HP Compaq nw8440.
[21:17] <Freeaqingme> Atlas, in fact, with windows 7 my battery lasts shorter than on ubuntu (lenovo t400)
[21:17] <Jordan_U> LinuxFetus: "powertop" is a good utility for determining what is using the most power.
[21:18] <LinuxFetus> I'
[21:18] <LinuxFetus> Jordan_U: I'm installing it right now... thanks.
[21:18] <Atlas> Freeaqingme, blasphemy!
[21:18] <Atlas> but completely rational
[21:18] <RingZer0> so, where is 'places' in the file system... see, i mounted a windows share
[21:18] <jramsey> Freeaqingme, lol that is a great comment
[21:19] <_DGM_> RingZer0: places?
[21:19] <RingZer0> And I would like to be able to access the files via ffmpeg
[21:19] <RingZer0> _DGM_: yeah, "places"
[21:19] <Atlas> i thought ffmpeg was a codec, not a protocol
[21:20] <guntbert> RingZer0: "places" is just a menu item
[21:20] <jramsey> ffmpeg is a converter/streamer
[21:20] <RingZer0> I right clicked on a windows share (samba from ubuntu-server), then mounted smb://rico/share
[21:20] <RingZer0> how can i access smb://rico/share via the shell or absolute path?
[21:20] <LinuxFetus> Jordan_U: Alright I'm running it.  http://pastebin.com/Yp4EZSna
[21:21] <c_oKIE> hi
[21:21] <rotham> hey... what are my choices for a windows emulator
[21:21] <_DGM_> hi
[21:22] <_DGM_> rotham: wine.
[21:22] <guntbert> RingZer0: try and type: mount
[21:22] <rotham> ok cool ill check it out
[21:22] <RingZer0> basically I want to mount a share
[21:22] <_DGM_> rotham: its pretty much your only *free* choise
[21:22] <LinuxFetus> _DGM_: Wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[21:22] <RingZer0> i've done it in centos via mount.nfs
[21:22] <c_oKIE> I have a continuing question...
[21:22] <rotham> :P
[21:22] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...in sound preferences, theres a change that keeps resetting...so i was wondering what file those preferences are saved to because i would like to edit it
[21:22] <_DGM_> LinuxFetus: ..
[21:22] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, what are your power mgmt preferences set to?
[21:22] <Atlas> it really isnt _DGM_
[21:22] <RingZer0> i got it
[21:23] <RingZer0> thanks guntbert , _DGM_
[21:23] <_DGM_> Atlas: i know.. but does it matter :P
[21:23] <RingZer0> i have to restart session and im not running screen.... :( brb guys.
[21:23] <darth_tux71> ok I have a slight annoyance I installed KDE but I cannot select it from the login screen
[21:23] <guntbert> LinuxFetus: chromium uses a lot of power (especially with flash on an open page)
[21:23] <_DGM_> Atlas: you answer questions with what he wants to know.. not with the exact facts
[21:23] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: System > Preferences >Power Management?
[21:23] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, yeah
[21:24] <darth_tux71> I used to be able to switch desktops on the fly from the login now there is no way to do it unless I am totally blind
[21:24] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: There's 3 tabs would you like the settings for each or just "On Battery Power."
[21:24] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, go thru those settings and sanity check them; battery power is the key
[21:25] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, it's coarse ...
[21:25] <c_oKIE> I am not sure if the #ubuntu proxy servers better to ask on but, I want to keep the ...\Documents and Settings\ Folder on a seperate partition for backing up purposes so C:/ has program files  and systems but I can backup just the docs and settings partition and wipe out where the os is stored
[21:25] <Oer> darth_tux71, did you reboot, after install KDE or logout ?
[21:25] <darth_tux71> loged out i have to reboot duh me sorry
[21:26] <c_oKIE> If I mount say partition W:/ to C:\Documents and Settings this does not store the folder on a seperate partition correct?
[21:26] <darth_tux71> i never think reboot unless i get a new kernel
[21:26] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: I have "Spin down hard disks when possible", "Reduce backlight brightness" "Dim display when Idle" all checked.
[21:26] <darth_tux71> ok rebooting ill be back =)
[21:26] <rooks> if i wanted to tunnel ldap via ssh, then what ports should i forward?
[21:26] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: I wouldn't be worried if it was like give or take a few minutes... but half the batter life than Windows tells me I may be doing something wrong.
[21:27] <Oer> darth_tux71 i'm not sure , logging out should be my first choice too.
[21:27] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, i wouldn't be too concerned about chrome ... here's something useful http://www.favbrowser.com/battery-life-internet-explorer-8-vs-firefox-3-5-vs-chrome-2-vs-opera-9-and-10-vs-safari-4/
[21:27] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, do you hear your disks spin down periodically?
[21:28] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: My disk isn't loud.  I've never really noticed it spinning unless I am copying large files.
[21:29] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, i can hear mine, but mine is a pos dell inspiron
[21:29] <bcbc2> LinuxFetus: have you looked at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9388766&postcount=31
[21:29] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: I have an HP business laptop...
[21:29] <jramsey> hps are way better than dell but you shouldn't have that much a diff in battery life
[21:29] <jramsey> something is going on
[21:30] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, => http://www.dvhardware.net/article38069.html
[21:30] <dogmatic69> hi all
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, duffydack with non-free-codecs and libavcodec-extra-52 installed from medibuntu still getting "Unknown encoder 'libfaac'" from the simplest of ffmpeg commands (ffmpeg -i C-unETR_9J4.flv -acodec libfaac -vcodec copy -y output.mp4") as described in bug 374900.  I'm rebooting to test in Lucid now, had to laugh, 10.10's winff (GUI) really did fixed my bug/suggestion 527548 to remove MP4 as an output option, due to this "bug".
[21:31] <tasslehoff> !mplayer
[21:31] <dogmatic69> im having problems with apache giving me this when trying to start: Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[21:31] <dogmatic69> cant figure out what it is
[21:32] <jramsey> dogmatic69, have you checked httpd.conf
[21:32] <Oer> !apache
[21:32] <debianix> greetings
[21:33] <dogmatic69> jramsey: tbh im a noob with *nix and related... fresh from m$
[21:33] <jramsey> dogmatic69, you installed apache right?
[21:33] <dogmatic69> i have checked it but would not know what is right or wrong
[21:33] <debianix> just wondering if anyone could help me out with evolution email client plz
[21:33] <dogmatic69> jramsey: ye it was working and then i restarted
[21:33] <debianix> just deleted my trash and forgot there was an important email in there
[21:34] <xmad> dogmatic69, ps -ef | grep apache
[21:34] <jramsey> dogmatic69, if you installed apache you are no longer a noob
[21:34] <xmad> paste output
[21:34] <debianix> is there a chance of retrieving it back
[21:34] <debianix> ? is there an extension in particular i should look out for?
[21:34] <Oer> edit /etc/apache2/apche2.conf ?
[21:34] <dogmatic69> jramsey: about 10 things
[21:34] <Seveas> debianix, look in your backups
[21:34] <LinuxFetus> Is there a linux utility that explains how power usage is being dissipated throughout one's machine?
[21:34] <spazmi> why do I get the following errors on my Torrentflux installation? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/554kXGK9
[21:35] <jramsey> dogmatic69, google httpd.conf and check yours ... theres a bind address for it
[21:35] <spazmi> it still works but I get all these errors
[21:35] <dogmatic69> sorry, xmad 10ish things
[21:35] <d4c> Hardware Drivers Inquiry: I use an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro. In Ubuntu 8.04, I was notified that I could install restricted drivers for this hardware. I am now using Ubuntu 10.04, and anything with detailed graphic effects (games, compiz, etc.) lags. Are there any solutions for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:35] <jramsey> but if it worked it shouldnt matter that you restarted
[21:35] <debianix> Seveas, if i had backup of my trash i wouldn't ask
[21:35] <xmad> dogmatic69, http://pastebin.com/
[21:36] <dogmatic69> jramsey: httpd.conf is empty, but /etc/apache2/sites-available/default has stuff
[21:36] <Poker> hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[21:37] <dogmatic69> xmad: http://pastebin.com/uA30nnbN
[21:38] <xmad> Poker, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:39] <Poker> xmad, thanks :)
[21:39] <xmad> dogmatic69, pkill apache and try starting it again
[21:39] <dogmatic69> xmad: it is working o.0
[21:40] <d4c> Hardware Drivers Inquiry: I use an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro. In Ubuntu 8.04, I was notified that I could install restricted drivers for this hardware. I am now using Ubuntu 10.04, and anything with detailed graphic effects (games, compiz, etc) lags. Are there any solutions for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:40] <dogmatic69> xmad: even though the error is there it is working?
[21:41] <xmad> dogmatic69, if you get make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80 it's because there is something else running that listens port 80
[21:42] <dogmatic69> that is what i thought
[21:42] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: Oh I'm sorry I forgot about your question!  I have an Intel Duo 2 Core T7600, 2.33 GHz
[21:42] <dogmatic69> and using a port scanner on 80 said free...
[21:42] <Atlas>  kk
[21:42] <dogmatic69> http://pastebin.com/RZCE8udu
[21:42] <dogmatic69> xmad: what you make of that ^
[21:42] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, i'd imagine its more of the chipset thats hogging power then
[21:42] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: What do you mean?
[21:43] <dogmatic69> xmad: i can browse localhost 100%, (phpmyadmin)
[21:43] <MaJic_NinJa> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/stupid-geek-tricks-watch-movies-in-your-linux-terminal-window/  this is pretty cool using your terminal
[21:44] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, all the integrated things like the north and south bus / graphics chip tend to use more power than modern laptop cpus when they are not throttled power-wise
[21:44] <LinuxFetus> bcbc2: The link to the bug you gave me appears to be of the same series of processors that I have.  (T7600 instead of T6500).  Additionally, the "[kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick" thing is high on my powertop readout.
[21:44] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: Oh.  How does one throttle these things?
[21:44] <Atlas> but powertop probably tells you more information than that. also no idea. maybe kernel modules?
[21:45] <Atlas> i dont understand that concept though, or where to find them
[21:46] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: So I may have to modify my kernel?
[21:46] <debianix> :/
[21:46] <debianix> anyone ?
[21:46] <xmad> dogmatic69,
[21:46] <xmad> dogmatic69, try to run those same commands but using sudo
[21:46] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, not recompile or something that major, but if i understand it right, it should be as simple as plopping a .ko file somewhere
[21:47] <Oer> debianix, no, deleted trash is gone :(
[21:47] <djshotglass> anyone know of a command line download manager (https) that uses multiple connections to get the file?
[21:47] <Atlas> but i'd ask someone else, because im probably spewing nonsense right now
[21:47] <debianix> :/
[21:47] <xmad> dogmatic69, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop        sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[21:47] <d4c> Hardware Drivers Inquiry: I use an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro. In Ubuntu 8.04, I was notified that I could install restricted drivers for this hardware. I am now using Ubuntu 10.04, and anything with detailed graphic effects (games, compiz, etc) lags. Are there any solutions for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:47] <duffydack> playing movies with ascii plugin is old news.
[21:47] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: I've never messed with my kernel before.  I do need to leave though.  Hopefully some of you will be back on as I try to sort this thing out (I just remembered that I get a "System failed to hibernate" message every time my battery gets critically low.  Additionally... I get laptop battery low messages every few seconds... :/)
[21:48] <debianix> Oer, what file does it store the imap emails to ?
[21:48] <debianix> in evolution ?
[21:48] <sailerboy> hey, if i have a user account (craig) which doesnt have access to the killall command, but i want it to be able to launch a script that contains "killall supybot" or "kill -9 `pgrep supybot`", how would i do that?
[21:48] <debianix> ? .evolution/mail/imap/user_name ?
[21:49] <sailerboy> im sure i have to edit visudo
[21:49] <sailerboy> also d4c, you should be able to install restricted drivers with 10.04
[21:49] <bcbc2> LinuxFetus:  that link had some other links to workarounds.
[21:49] <sailerboy> i believe it's under administrative
[21:49] <i2c>  look at how freaking gay ubuntu is, I click on places, and instead of, downloads, music, and those other folders, I get 'version="1.0"?>' and stuff like 'name=currentmtime' and other crap, windows has never renamed stuff for me, and when I click on them it throws me an error  message, so it doesn't even work!
[21:49] <c_oKIE> Ok let me put my question like this, if partition, G: ( a log drive )  is mounted to W: ( a primary partition ), this doesnt mean that if G is deleted W: still points to the data does it
[21:49] <rww> i2c: "Gay" is not a pejorative. Don't use it as one.
[21:50] <i2c> ubuntu is trash I'll put it that way
[21:50] <sailerboy> ic2, no one is forcing you to use it
[21:50] <sailerboy> but i think that it somehow got corrupted
[21:50] <Muscovy> i2c: Why are you coming here to tell us this?
[21:50] <sailerboy> it can happen with windows as well
[21:50] <i2c> would someone help me fix it?
[21:50] <d4c> sailerboy, indeed you can. but, should the operating system notify me as to which ones are available?
[21:50] <sailerboy> there should be 1 availible
[21:50] <sailerboy> afaik
[21:50] <i2c> no windows doesn't change the start menu text, or it hasn't in the multiple years I'm using it
[21:51] <kevinSJ> I need some help. Is it possible to open a SWF for editing in Ubuntu?
[21:51] <sieson> I am trying to change my laptop's brightness from the terminal but I keep getting permission denied! Anyone know what I should do?
[21:51] <sailerboy> ubuntu hasnt changed it for me in the multiple years i have been using it, and windows have
[21:51] <kevinSJ> Like a .SWF extracter?
[21:51] <i2c> well you know what
[21:51] <kevinSJ> Need to modify it a bit
[21:51] <i2c> can someone help me fix this or do I need to reinstall ubuntu *again*
[21:52] <Muscovy> i2c: Could you describe what's wrong in more detail?
[21:52] <i2c> let me get a camera and show you because, I don't know if it's ubuntu's fault or my laptops, I can't click on 'applications' or 'places' and take a screenshot
[21:52] <sailerboy> type scrot in the terminal i2c
[21:52] <sailerboy> "scrot"
[21:52] <sailerboy> and in your home folder, you should see a screen shot
[21:53] <Muscovy> Press "print screen" on your keyboard.
[21:53] <sailerboy> or that
[21:53] <sailerboy> that works
[21:53] <i2c> I did it doesn't work
[21:53] <Muscovy> WHich method?
[21:54] <sieson> any help for my problem?  sudo echo -n 7 > /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness says permission denied... Why is that?
[21:54] <i2c> oh darn you are right
[21:54] <i2c> so i just got my camera for nothing, rubbish
[21:54] <Muscovy> sieson: It's because you're running sudo on the first command only.
[21:54] <rww> sieson: because the shell redirection is happening with your user's permissions. Try echo -n 7 | sudo tee /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[21:54] <MaJic_NinJa> sieson can you as sudo?
[21:55] <Muscovy> sieson: I think it's command | sudo tee file
[21:55] <i2c> http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1356/screenshotsi.png
[21:55] <sieson> rww: thanks a lot bud.. fixed :D
[21:56] <Muscovy> i2c: DO you know what version of Ubuntu you are running?
[21:56] <Muscovy> do*
[21:56] <i2c> ugh now I just messed up xchat, the panel on the left is gone
[21:56] <i2c> 10.04
[21:56] <dogmatic69> xmad: ye that works, no errors :)
[21:56] <edbian> i2c, view
[21:56] <dogmatic69> thanks for the help
[21:56] <xmad> dogmatic69, no proble, get used to use sudo a lot
[21:56] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[21:56] <i2c> now what edbian
[21:57] <dominicdinada> how to force ubuntu to take any password i set ?
[21:57] <dominicdinada> 10.04
[21:57] <dogmatic69> xmad: should i just use it *all* the time?
[21:57] <Muscovy> i2c: What happens with you click the weird text under your bookmarks there?
[21:57] <Seveas> dominicdinada, set it as root. You can't make it set passwords with less than 6 characters though.
[21:57] <xmad> dogmatic69, it's not always needed, but for some admin stuff it's needed
[21:57] <i2c> could not display 'part of the line of code' nautilus can't find that area
[21:58] <i2c> or that location whatever
[21:58] <xmad> dogmatic69, for example, starting apache needs to be run with sudo
[21:58] <dominicdinada> no i have 6 random characters it was my old pw i just changed today due to a keyboard input driver failure so i changed it to another and now i was to set it back and i keep getting to simple
[21:58] <i2c> hold on I have to reinstall xchat I'll be back in a second
[21:58] <xmad> dogmatic69, pretty much if you see an output saying "permission denied" try using the same command but with sudo