[04:20] <PCGenie> hello, I have been considering shifting to Ubuntu for my webserver; I have been using Mandrake since 1998 and recently upgraded my hardware to AMD64; what is the maximum or RAM that Ubuntu Server runs on?
[04:20] <Quintin> CodyLoco: Samples?  pfft.
[04:20] <CodyLoco> ...
[04:21] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi. I'm wondering where I can find good Open Office fonts.
[04:21] <Quintin> CodyLoco: PM me
[04:21] <Quintin> PCGenie: Probably more than you have.
[04:21] <PCGenie> Quintin, I hope so. I have 512
[04:21] <Quintin> PCGenie: I don't see any issues.
[04:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> Nevermind, I found #openoffice.org.
[04:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks.
[04:22] <PCGenie> Quintin: how well does the ubuntu run on AMD64?
[04:22] <yellow> PCGenie, unless you need more than 4GB/server  64bit does not make big difference
[04:22] <xelados> PCGenie: I'm running Xubuntu 6.06 on an AMD and it works nicely
[04:22] <Quintin> PCGenie: about as well as any other linux distro.
[04:23] <xelados> The only stuff I have to worry about are media codecs and Fx plugins.
[04:23] <yellow> xelados, why is that ?
[04:23] <yellow> i'm thinking about putting it on my laptop
[04:23] <Jordan_U> PCGenie: Everything non proprietary works perfectly, things like flash from companies that won't make a 64 bit port can be made to work but it is a hassle
[04:23] <xelados> Because not all 64-bit codecs or plugins have been made yet
[04:24] <wally> Hi, anyone know how to get 6.10 to recognise a external modem?
[04:24] <Secion8> Does anyone have the flash player tar package they can send me? Adobe does not want to let me download it. keeps timing out.
[04:24] <yellow> xelados, ok, i wasn't thinking about that part
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Secion8: Just get it from the repos
[04:24] <xelados> You can still get'em to work through howtos like firefox32, etc though
[04:24] <xelados> Automatix and EasyUbuntu help, too
[04:24] <Jordan_U> !automatix | xelados
[04:24] <ubotu> xelados: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:25] <Secion8> Jordan_U: I try but it keeps timing out.
[04:25] <xelados> !WorksForMe
[04:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:25] <Jordan_U> xelados: Please don't recommend Automatix
[04:25] <Secion8> Jordan_U: Only on the flash player though so i know it os not my network
[04:25] <xelados> Ah so it's that bad, huh?
[04:25] <Secion8> Very Strange
[04:25] <xelados> What exactly does it screw up?
[04:25] <bowhuntr> What do people here think about CNR, the service from Linspire
[04:25] <proudfoot> !easyubuntu
[04:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:26] <proudfoot> !atheros
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Jordan_U> xelados: Upgrades will completely ruin your Ubuntu install if you have used Automatix, at least it is very likely it will screw it up, if it doesn't then you are lucky
[04:26] <PCGenie> I am now using an ECS RS482-M with integrated ATI Radeon X300 based graphics core, are there any issues with the graphics chips on board?
[04:26] <xelados> Jordan_U: as in, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' style?
[04:26] <Secion8> This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from Macromedia (or mirror). It is useful for mozilla browser variants.
[04:26] <Secion8> Adobe site keeps timing out.
[04:26] <xelados> or changing from dapper to edgy, etc?
[04:27] <davey486> my dvd drive is locatedd at /dev/hdc and im trying to use Varsha that wants it at /dev/scd0, can someone help me fix this
[04:27] <PCGenie> Jordan_U: did you mean Flash Player?
[04:27] <PCGenie> xelados: are you running the Ubuntu Server for the AMD 64 edition?
[04:27] <DiaboluZ> No one got an idea on monitoring trafficspeed on certain ports?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> xelados: No, as in gksu "update-manager -c" style ( don't dist-upgrade to Edgy unless you have read the upgrade notes )
[04:28] <vox754> Jordan_U: how can people "not" recommend Automatix? It's already very popular. I've never used it, though.
[04:28] <xelados> Ubuntu Server? I'm not sure what you mean.
[04:28] <xelados> If you mean the barebones installation, yes.
[04:28] <Jordan_U> PCGenie: Yes, it's available in backports
[04:28] <PCGenie> xelados: there is the desktop and server versions of install
[04:28] <jay> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4679/ having problems with fglrx
[04:29] <metal03> Hello everyone, I have a .msi file I'd like to use...  is there a way in Linux to do so?
[04:29] <xelados> Yeah, when I installed I typed 'server-expert'
[04:29] <PCGenie> Jordan_U: thanks
[04:29] <Jordan_U> vox754: Hopefully new features in Feisty will make Automatix obsolete
[04:29] <Jordan_U> metal03: A .msi file is a windows config file isn't it?
[04:30] <xelados> Regardless, you guys know more about the OS than I do, so I'll make a note to not recommend Automatix.
[04:30] <xelados> What should I do or recommend instead?
[04:30] <vox754> Jordan_U: same thing with EasyUbuntu? I mean, there is a forum dedicated to it; that's pretty big.
[04:30] <bruenig> xelados, figure out what their problem is, how to solve that problem, and recommend that
[04:30] <Jordan_U> xelados: Reading the wiki or if needed easyubuntu
[04:30] <xelados> bruenig: Alright.
[04:30] <bruenig> there is no reason you need to offer a third party app to do something for you, especially some of the things or really a lot of the things automatix does is jokingly easy
[04:31] <Quintin> xelados: use apt, like a normal person?
[04:31] <PCGenie> for someone who has been running Mandrake for almost a decade, what is the learning curve to install and maintain Ubuntu?
[04:31] <bruenig> like fonts, the script does "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[04:31] <xelados> lol Quintin
[04:31] <bruenig> ooooh,  good thing we have might automatix
[04:31] <metal03> Jordan_U: Not sure...  it's a program I ran in windows...  and on the website it says that it's linux compatible...
[04:31] <bruenig> mighty&
[04:31] <hbaigu> davey486, Varsha has a preferences setting for the dvd writer location
[04:32] <Jordan_U> metal03: I know almost nothing about windows but if it is an executable you can run it via Wine.
[04:32] <vox754> PCGenie: right now it is Mandriva, right?
[04:32] <davey486> hbaigu:  all i can find is scd0 - 4
[04:32] <PCGenie> vox754: yes but I am still running Mandrake 10.x
[04:33] <metal03> Jordan_U: No, it's some kind of compressed date used in installation I think...  you use msiexec.exe to extract I think!
[04:33] <Jordan_U> vox754: I have heard that Easyubuntu installs things correctly and safely, but it really isn't necisary IMO
[04:33] <kai> hallo
[04:33] <metal03> data*
[04:33] <LiENUS> but its soooo easy :/
[04:33] <PCGenie> mostly, I might be an Admin but that is not all I do for a living so I do not want to go crazy learning Ubuntu
[04:33] <Jordan_U> metal03: What are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[04:34] <kai> hallo jemad da
[04:34] <SirOSOriS> how do you ignore someone on x-chat?
[04:34] <kai> ok by by
[04:34] <cafuego_> SirOSOriS: right click their nick and choose 'Ignore'
[04:34] <xelados> I need to figure out how to get xdm to load Fluxbox when I login through either the default Xsession or ~/.xsession. I don't know what to do or what to edit, though.
[04:34] <bruenig> SirOSOriS, /ignore
[04:34] <metal03> It's a very complete addon to OpenOffice that does spellcheck and grammar check in french
[04:34] <metal03> trying to install it
[04:35] <vox754> Jordan_U: I guess so. I installed all codecs and so with the "apt-get" line provided in the Restricted Format page. I guess you're right.
[04:35] <Jordan_U> xelados: Can't you just choose it as the session when logging in and then save it as the new default when it asks you?
[04:36] <xelados> Jordan_U: in xdm? I didn't see an option for it anywhere. It's just a login dialog
[04:36] <xcidental> does ubuntu cache the settings of xorg.conf?  asking because i added a resolution to the listing, rebooted and cannot select the new resolution
[04:37] <Jordan_U> vox754: In Feisty when you try and play a video that you don't have the codec for it detects what package you need and offers to install it for you.
[04:37] <kitche> xcidental: well the resolution in xorg.conf is different then the gnome applet at least from what I can see I tend to ignore the gnome applet all together anymore
[04:37] <Jordan_U> xcidental: Do you have the correct drivers installed?
[04:38] <xcidental> xorg says i have the nv driver installed
[04:38] <Mys_Teri> Why would I get this when I click on Adept?  When I try to click on adept to try to use it I get Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory)
[04:38] <Jordan_U> !nvidea | nv is the reverse engineered open source driver get the official nvidia driver here
[04:39] <Jordan_U> !nvidea | xcidental nv is the reverse engineered open source driver get the official nvidia driver here
[04:39] <kitche> !nvidia
[04:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <kitche> :)
[04:39] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, kdesu is the command to get graphical root privileges
[04:39] <rj__> Jordon_U: how stable is Feisty as of now?
[04:39] <hbaigu> xcidental, see what says in the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log about that resolution
[04:39] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try opening a terminal and typing, kdesu adept
[04:40] <YoshiG3> Has anyone installed Limewire on Linux? I need some help :(
[04:40] <At0mic_PC> Would any of you guys know how to DRMify a MP3?
[04:40] <cables> !frostwire | YoshiG3
[04:40] <ubotu> YoshiG3: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:40] <bruenig> frostwire is garbage
[04:40] <YoshiG3> cables: Thanks
[04:40] <YoshiG3> oh
[04:40] <YoshiG3> frostwire sucks?
[04:40] <Brime> why?
[04:40] <bruenig> I don't like java period
[04:40] <GaiaX11> bruenig: I like frostwire
[04:40] <bruenig> but it sucks up a lot of resources for such a small thing
[04:40] <cafuego_> Nothing wrong with Java.
[04:41] <vox754> Jordan_U: do you recommend upgrading to 7.04? I'm currently satisfied with 6.10, and I don't want to break my wireless card. I fixed it, but I don't know if automatic updates or "ndiswrapper" made the trick.
[04:41] <LiENUS> 7.04 is out?1
[04:41] <LiENUS> ?!!
[04:41] <cafuego_> LiENUS: no
[04:41] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I get command not found
[04:41] <bruenig> I mean a browser is one thing, but a p2p client which should run in the background, should not be running like that. Azureus the same
[04:41] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, that is not good
[04:41] <LiENUS> then why would vox754  upgrade to 7.04?
[04:41] <Pelo> bruenig,  what do you recommend instead then ?
[04:41] <SpudDogg> Are there any advantages to using Kubuntu/KDE instead of Ubuntu/Gnome?
[04:41] <xcidental> hysnc out of range...so im guessing update driver, reboot x and all should be solved?
[04:41] <Quintin> vox754: uh, 7 is beta software.
[04:41] <Pelo> SpudDogg,   personnal preference
[04:41] <bruenig> I don't know, gtk-gnutella
[04:42] <LiENUS> whens the next LTS version going to be released?
[04:42] <vox754> LiENUS: just asking, for when it is released. Obviously, there are guys with many CPU's testing all these things.
[04:42] <SpudDogg> Pelo, that's what I thought, but I assumed there may have been something I missed.  Thanks man
[04:42] <hbaigu> xcidental, that mean that the mode is not in the range valid for that monitor
[04:42] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, do "whereis kdesu"
[04:42] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I just installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago, I had it check the disc.
[04:43] <Pelo> SpudDogg,  each comes with its own library of software but you can install the otherone's on it anyway with a few extra files
[04:43] <GaiaX11> bruenig: For some time I used apollon, but after installing frostwire I am better off now
[04:43] <At0mic_PC> Anyone know what audio format that has higher quality and can be played on a samsung t619?
[04:43] <At0mic_PC> 3gp seems low quality.
[04:43] <marlene> i am trying to connect my cell phone to my laptop but it recoginise it as a serial device ttyUSB0...  how can I mount this device??? in ubuntu dapper drake
[04:43] <vox754> Quintin: I know, I know. Maybe we should limit talking about new versions because people get confused easily.
[04:43] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I got kdesu:
[04:44] <vox754> LiENUS: solved your wireless problem?
[04:44] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, that is weird, you didn't do anything with kdesu did you?
[04:44] <xcidental> hbaigu: its my 1080p lcd monitor so it should handle the resolution, maybe the drivers i have currently cant support it
[04:44] <YoshiG3> Is Feisty Fawn much better than Edgy?
[04:44] <Pelo> marlene,  try the ubuntu forum , search for your phones's model ,
[04:44] <Mys_Teri> No, I haven't touched it, shoot I don't even know what it is.
[04:44] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, not sure of kde, but on gnome, they have gksu and gksudo, so try "whereis kdesudo"
[04:44] <LiENUS> vox754, ?
[04:45] <witless> would anyone care to recommend a bittorrent client for edgy?
[04:45] <rj__> vox754: can you confirm that 7.04 will auto-offer codec download&install on attempting to play media for which the codec is not yet installed?
[04:45] <bruenig> witless, utorrent through wine or ktorrent
[04:45] <Pelo> witless,   utorrent on wine
[04:45] <bruenig> rj__, it will auto-offer, there are some screenshots of it doing that in development
[04:45] <Pelo> witless,  but keep an eye out for deluge-torrent,  it looks promessing,
[04:46] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: i get kdesudo:
[04:46] <vox754> rj__: I have NOT tested it. That info came from Jordan_U. #ubuntu+1
[04:46] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, that is unfortunate. You can run adept  by doing, "sudo adept" but that won't do for the menus, you would always have to go to terminal which would become annoying probably
[04:47] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I am brand new to Linux and Ubuntu but I have not deleted anything.
[04:47] <witless> is utorrent in the repositories?
[04:47] <marlene> Pelo: ok thanks
[04:47] <vox754> LiENUS: weren't you the guy that couldn't use "network-manager" in LSU?
[04:47] <IcemanV9> witless: nope
[04:47] <LiENUS> something to that effect
[04:47] <LiENUS> it still dislikes lsu
[04:47] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: All I want to do is run alsaconf so I can get my sound card found.
[04:48] <bruenig> rj__, http://www.flickr.com/photos/28313023@N00/375559390/in/set-72157594510537135/
[04:48] <aestetix> Quick question, trying to get dual monitors working with Edgy, I added the second device/monitor into xorg.conf, it loads but won't initiate the second monitor. Any idea why?
[04:48] <rj__> bruenig: thanks.  I'm excited for that feature.
[04:48] <bruenig> rj__, this channel will become more and more complex
[04:48] <bruenig> because these little things will be solved
[04:49] <IcemanV9> how can I improve the response of network-manager to connect to WIFI with WPA1?? sometimes it takes up from 1 - 4 minutes to connect.
[04:49] <Jordan_U> bruenig: What is the feature? I can't tell from the screen shot
[04:50] <bruenig> Jordan_U, there is a slideshow going through the steps let me get that link
[04:50] <geo-> has anyone gotten SLI to work?
[04:50] <bruenig> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28313023@N00/sets/72157594510537135/show/
[04:50] <Jordan_U> bruenig: Is this the libgimmecodec?
[04:50] <bruenig> from the same sounds like it
[04:50] <vox754> aestetix: maybe you need to set some "Option" explicitly under your driver name. Can't really help you because I haven't set up Dual monitors.
[04:50] <bruenig> click on a file, it gives you an option to get the codec
[04:50] <zerooninja> wahts the command for superuser?
[04:51] <zerooninja> for terminal?
[04:51] <Jordan_U> zerooninja: sudo
[04:51] <zerooninja> ty
[04:51] <IcemanV9> zerooninja: your username password
[04:51] <IcemanV9> nm :(
[04:51] <maltz> sup
[04:51] <rj__> bruenig: Just viewed slideshow.  Very slick!
[04:52] <aestetix> vox754: I tried "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,CRT" but it didn't work
[04:52] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Thanks for the help, I think I shall give it a rest for a bit.  I am getting a bit frustrated and I don't learn things well if I'm not in a calm mood.
[04:53] <shmeelAway> hi, does any1 know a script that allows me to open things as root with a right click and going to script?
[04:53] <x2mjokada> !java
[04:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:53] <vox754> aestetix: My impression is that it is driver-specific, so you need to read your manual page, like "man nv". Mine is a VIA.
[04:53] <YoshiG3> !frostwire
[04:53] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:53] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, there is something seriously wrong, it is not you being stupid or anything. kdesu not being there is a big problem and a rare one, at least I have never seen it
[04:53] <aestetix> good idea
[04:54] <Mys_Teri> bruenig:  Would my best bet be to download a different copy of Ubuntu and install again?
[04:54] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, worth a shot. I have never seen someone missing kdesu. Can't imagine how it could have gone
[04:55] <Mys_Teri> I'm using a Compaq Deskpro PIII with 256 mb ram and 6 gig hard drive could it be my computer?
[04:56] <xcidental> thanks all for the help, installed drivers and am running at the correct resolution
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, no, this is literally just a single file that is gone for some reason
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this "sudo fine / -iname kdesu
[04:56] <bruenig> \
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this "sudo fins / -iname kdesu
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this "sudo find / -iname kdesu
[04:56] <bruenig> the last one
[04:56] <bruenig> the find
[04:56] <aestetix> vox754: does the identifier actually have to correspond to the specific model? I thought it was just a name for X to use.
[04:56] <vox754> xcidental: you make a donation to any project you like...
[04:57] <IcemanV9> reinstall kubuntu-desktop might do the trick?
[04:57] <shiv> how do I make my desktop an ftp server so that I can connect to it from work?
[04:58] <xcidental> once i get my system all setup and tweaked i just may
[04:58] <xcidental> this is my 3rd go with ubuntu and im hoping this time i stick with it
[04:58] <yellow> shiv get ssh
[04:58] <shiv> ok
[04:58] <QMario> Are there any Linux partitioners that can resize an NTFS Hard Drive?
[04:59] <pesb10> how can i reinstall unbuntu without deleting my data
[04:59] <yellow> shiv, ssh will be useful for a lot of things, not just file trasnfers
[04:59] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Well I think it is doing something I can hear the hard drive working, out put in the Terminal though.
[05:00] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this see if maybe the PATH is messed up, "/usr/bin/kdesu adept"
[05:00] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this see if maybe the PATH is messed up, "/usr/bin/kdesu /usr/bin/adept"
[05:00] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Make that no out put in the terminal
[05:00] <vox754> aestetix: I think it is just a name, as you say.
[05:00] <yellow> QMario, hehe if you know one, i'd sure want to know him/her too
[05:00] <aestetix> ok
[05:00] <marlene> Hi
[05:00] <yellow> hi marlene
[05:00] <pesb10> can someone help me?
[05:00] <shmeelAway> hi, does any1 know a script that allows me to open things as root with a right click and going to script?
[05:00] <rj__> Is it possible to download via 802.11 and simultaneously push the data across Cat-5 to network attached storage?
[05:00] <cables> !can | pesb10
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <pesb10> cables : how?
[05:00] <cables> pesb10, sorry
[05:01] <yellow> pesb10, do you have an extra partition /hard drive to save you data ?
[05:01] <cables> pesb10, ask your question
[05:01] <pesb10> nop
[05:01] <pesb10> cables : no
[05:01] <cables> pesb10, did you already ask it?
[05:01] <rj__> Qmario: Gparted
[05:01] <cables> ok, sorry then
[05:01] <pesb10> my hdd has only 1 partition
[05:01] <yellow> QMario, listen to rj__
[05:02] <pesb10> cables : u mean i will lose my data?
[05:02] <cables> pesb10, i was typing to the wrong person, sorry
[05:02] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I get no such file or directory.
[05:02] <shiv> yellow, I installed ssh now how do I invoke it. Is it a GUI based program. I need to leave my PC running so taht I can access it from work for files. Thats a
[05:02] <QMario> Thank you everyone! :)
[05:02] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <Need_support> cables: Good Morning :)
[05:03] <cables> Need_support, success?
[05:03] <yellow> shiv, edit your config file sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd.config
[05:03] <Need_support> SUCCESS .....^_^
[05:03] <yellow> shiv, then start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:03] <Need_support> Thnaks cables
[05:03] <cables> Need_support, now to get rid of the nvidia logo on startup
[05:03] <x2mjokada> !azeurus
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azeurus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <marlene> I have a fujitsu siemens laptop running ubuntu dapper and i have problem with acpi as giving me kernel panics.. I've google it but I can't find out what's the problem..
[05:03] <bruenig> !azurues
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azurues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Need_support> hmmm
[05:03] <bruenig> !azureus
[05:03] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:03] <x2mjokada> !azuerus
[05:03] <Need_support> let's go private
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azuerus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <vox754> pesb10: I'm sure there is a way to create another partition, so you can copy your files.
[05:04] <x2mjokada> !azureus
[05:04] <TravisivarT> hey does anyone know how to enable "legacy usb" or "usb" support in the awardBIOS so that GRUB can recognize my keyboard?
[05:04] <bruenig> x2mjokada, he already spit it out
[05:04] <cables> Need_support, is private working this time?
[05:04] <marlene>  ACPI-0517: *** Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_ .PCI0.AC0_._PSR]  (Node dffe9620), AE_TIME
[05:04] <yellow> shiv, sorry, edit your config file sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:04] <vox754> pesb10: you need to provide specific information like the output from "/etc/fstab" and "sudo fdsik -l"
[05:05] <x2mjokada> thnx
[05:05] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I accidently ran the find one again and got this result  find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc/4773: this may be a bug in you r filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier r esults may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[05:06] <cables> Need_support, it seems like private isn't working
[05:06] <yellow> shiv, the sshd_config should be straight forward, read the comments as well
[05:06] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, wouldn't worry about it. Your system does seem very messed up. Did you use any scripts or something you weren't sure of. Automatix maybe
[05:07] <Need_support> cables: Do you recieve my Messages ?
[05:07] <Need_support> on private
[05:07] <cables> Need_support, no...
[05:07] <cables> Need_support, the rest is quick.
[05:07] <cables> We'll do it here
[05:07] <shiv> yellow, I do not see anything to be edited in there the defaults seem to be fine.
[05:07] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: No trying that other command now
[05:07] <shiv> yellow, Do I need to add a user in there. If yes How?
[05:08] <yellow> shiv, yes, just so you know where to edit things later on if you need
[05:08] <yellow> shiv, the user name / pass would be whatever you use to log in at start up
[05:08] <Need_support> cables: To sum up the whole process What should I do next time I install ubuntu on my computer ? directly install the driver?
[05:08] <pesb10> vox754, sorry, i'm not good with linux...can you explain more?
[05:08] <cables> Need_support, follow the right guide. Go to wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <kazukisan> Is ubuntu ever gona have easy support for 64bit/32bit side by side installing? without jail shell
[05:08] <yellow> ssh users are users of the computer
[05:08] <shiv> yellow, the init.d says it failed
[05:09] <yellow> what's the message ?
[05:09] <cables> Need_support, open Xorg.conf (sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and find the section "Device". Right under the line that says "Driver "nvidia"", add the line
[05:09] <cables> Option          "NoLogo"
[05:09] <pesb10> vox754, i wan to reinstall my linux without formating ...is it possible?
[05:09] <yellow> sudo it ?
[05:09] <yellow> or try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:09] <cables> Need_support, then save and restart comp/do ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:09] <Need_support> cables: What will this do?
[05:10] <vox754> pesb10: not really, but you don't have to loose your data. You can always keep your data safe.
[05:10] <cables> Need_support, it'll stop the Nvidia logo from coming up every boot
[05:10] <alex_> could anyone give me some advice on how to change the background color the gnome menus?
[05:10] <zak__> i screwed up my users & groups, and now CD's aren't automatically mounted... how do i fix this?
[05:10] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Now it is doing something with lots of text.
[05:10] <Need_support> cables: I see......
[05:10] <xelados> I need to figure out how to get xdm to load Fluxbox when I login through either the default Xsession or ~/.xsession. I don't know what to do or what to edit, though.
[05:10] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, just when that is done, trying opening adept again from the menus
[05:10] <xelados> Jordan_U: in xdm? I didn't see an option for it anywhere. It's just a login dialog
[05:10] <xelados> Hah, oops.
[05:10] <YoshiG3> !VLC
[05:11] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:11] <pesb10> vox754, ic...but my hdd is only 1 partition...and i cant access into linux...can i copy my data into another hdd?
[05:11] <xelados> !xdm
[05:11] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 756 kB
[05:11] <xelados> :o
[05:11] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I will, it's downloading stuff now.
[05:11] <cables> Need_support, it can't break anything... but if it does, use "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in recovery mode to fix it. Then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again when you reboot in order to reinstall the driver.
[05:11] <shmeelAway> hi, does any1 know a script that allows me to open things as root with a right click and going to script?
[05:11] <shiv> yellow,  that worked now I just login via any ftp from any other computer to my IP address? Is that it?
[05:11] <Need_support> cables: I see......Thanks Thanks and Many Thanks :)
[05:11] <zak__> someone should add gmusicbrowser to that audio player list... and/or add it to the repositories if it's not there... i downloaded it and it works great
[05:12] <cables> shmeelAway, you mean like open it in a text editor as root? I have something like that...
[05:12] <vox754> pesb10: you bet, you can. You can run a Live CD Linux, then copy your info to another disk. Kill your old disk, reinstall and you copy back your data.
[05:12] <yellow> shiv, open your firewall and router at the port your set in sshd_config
[05:12] <bruenig> gmusicplayer, wow how generic
[05:12] <shmeelAway> i have the text editor
[05:12] <shiv> yellow, that by default is 22
[05:12] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: How long do you think it takes to know what you are doing in Linux?
[05:12] <pesb10> vox754 , ic...thanks alot...but erm can you teach me the process?
[05:12] <shmeelAway> but i used to have somehting that would actually open it as root
[05:12] <yellow> shiv,  yes
[05:12] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, depends
[05:13] <cables> shmeelAway, in a text editor as root? I have a script that does that, I can pastebin it and tell you where to put it.
[05:13] <Need_support> cables: So there's a new ubuntu release due to Aprill this year ... Is it LTS?
[05:13] <zak__> bruenig: that's what i thought... but it's actually pretty damn good... it's not exactly elegant and stylish - it's just packed with features and seems to "just work". backends to either gstreamer or mpg123/ogg123
[05:13] <shmeelAway> cables, sure, thanks
[05:13] <yellowdart> i have a buddy that i just hooked up with ubuntu.. he asked me if there were any ways he could set his keyboard to type phonetic japanese (i know it can be done on mac)...any ideas??
[05:13] <cables> Need_support, don't think so.
[05:13] <Need_support> cables: So no need to migrate :)
[05:13] <YoshiG3> Why doesn't Rythmbox play music?
[05:14] <bruenig> !quicktime | YoshiG3
[05:14] <ubotu> YoshiG3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <cables> Need_support, your choice
[05:14] <shiv> yellow, I did tha and restarted ssl still wont connect
[05:14] <bruenig> zak__, I don't see gmusicbrowser in the repos
[05:14] <phiqtion> can i install Ubuntu without GRUB overwriting Windows Bootloader? can i tell GRUB to install on Linux's partition?
[05:14] <vox754> pesb10: I can guide you step-by-step right now. You really need to give information about your disk, partitions, operating system, file systems,...
[05:14] <piedoggie> my wife's a system lost its hard drive yesterday.  Using spinritem I think I've been able to rebuild the last partition but unfortunately, it's under LVM and I'm not sure how to recover that partition
[05:14] <yellow> shiv, where are you connecting to it from?
[05:14] <yellow> windows or another ubuntu ?
[05:14] <tracy> whats a good file sharing program to download MP3s for ubuntu (not bittorrent like)
[05:14] <linuxor> hi
[05:15] <Asc__> Is there any way to get GNOME to use no theme?
[05:15] <piedoggie> unfortunately the boot partition is toast so you can't just boot the drive
[05:15] <Asc__> tracy, I think limewire is popular.
[05:15] <shiv> yellow, the same computer as this it self. Is taht a problem?
[05:15] <pesb10> vox754...ok thanks...wat info you need?
[05:15] <phiqtion> can i install Ubuntu without GRUB overwriting Windows Bootloader? can i tell GRUB to install on Linux's partition?
[05:15] <tracy> ah, someone told me limewire wouldnt work - guess they were wrong :) thanks
[05:15] <Need_support> cables: You and many of the guys here seem professionals in ubuntu ....what's the secret? How can I learn?
[05:15] <zak__> bruenig: it's written in perl, and seems to run fine without installation... it not being in the repository sucks a little, but it's not something you've gotta recompile and install
[05:15] <cables> Need_support, just use it for a while... I've only been using Linux for 6 months... you learn fast.
[05:16] <yellow> shiv, you need to get on another machine to test it
[05:16] <bruenig> zak__, yeah I googled it, it looks pretty basic and kind of ugly
[05:16] <Asc__> tracy: it takes a bit of work - I don't think it's in the repositories.
[05:16] <linuxor> I've problems to install ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400 on my labtop DELL
[05:16] <GaiaX11> How do I access a net outsider PC through ssh?
[05:16] <shiv> yellow, I just did that same result
[05:16] <kitche> phiqtion: you can but think you need to use the alternate cd for it
[05:16] <piedoggie> phiqtion: don't worry about the boot loader, it will be detected (usually) and you should be all set to dual boot
[05:16] <vox754> pesb10: "I CANNOT" guide you right now. I made a mistake in the previous post.
[05:16] <bruenig> zak__, what is that context tab?
[05:16] <yellow> shiv, the other machine is also ubuntu ?
[05:16] <Asc__> tracy: never mind, I guess it is.
[05:16] <piedoggie> it meaning the Windows partition
[05:16] <shiv> yellow, no windows
[05:16] <Asc__> things have changed so since I last tried.
[05:17] <pesb10> vox754....erm...aiks...ok...its ok..thanks alot
[05:17] <cables> shmeelAway, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4684/
[05:17] <cables> Save that as text to ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[05:17] <zak__> bruenig: it is kind of ugly, but it seems to be much, much, much more feature rich than others... like, you right click on the song title and in the menu it has other songs of the same name [ie, covers of that song, or live versions]
[05:17] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I take it that this is updating my installation right?  Does this mean that I can upgrade in the future this way?  I don't have a CD Burner on my computer and the family one is always busy.
[05:17] <cables> shmeelAway, take out the line numbers first though
[05:17] <shmeelAway> thx
[05:17] <yellow> shiv, get putty and winscp
[05:17] <pesb10> vox : i'll try to troubleshoot around
[05:17] <shmeelAway> alright
[05:17] <phiqtion> piedoggie: but will GRUB be installed to MBR automatically? i want window's bootloader to stay on MBR and from there, i can launch UBuntu's GRUB
[05:17] <zak__> bruenig: context tab gives lyrics, but i think it does other stuff too depending on plugins
[05:17] <yellow> shiv, winscp is for transfering files over ssh, just like ftp
[05:17] <xelados> Does the Ubuntu wiki cover xsession and whatnot?
[05:17] <bruenig> zak__, ah, have you seen listen
[05:17] <vox754> pesb10: I'm terribly sorry. I missed the NOT.
[05:17] <xelados> Or can someone refer me to a resource or channel, or _something_?
[05:18] <zak__> bruenig: apparently not ..
[05:18] <piedoggie>  phiqtion yes  grub  will be installed on the MBR  but you'll have two entries, one for ubuntu the other for Windows
[05:18] <Need_support> cables: hmm it sepends on how much problems you face I think because using the Desktop only teaches you no more than windows does.
[05:18] <Need_support> depends*
[05:18] <shmeelAway> cables, where do i put the file?
[05:18] <phiqtion> piedoggie: can i choose where i want GRUB to be installed?
[05:18] <yellow> shiv, putty is for ssh into your ubuntu box and do whatever from command line
[05:18] <shiv> yellow, I think I am missing something in the config file. Do I need to edit anything else besides port? Do I need to set up any other user or uncomment anything else here
[05:18] <cables> shmeelAway, ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[05:18] <zak__> anyone know how to re-enable automounting if i screwed it up?
[05:18] <linuxor> Please        I've problems to install ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400 on my labtop DELL  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[05:18] <yellowdart> linuxor, are you trying to install with the fglrx (binary) driver, or are you doing AIGLX?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> xelados: You could use gdm instead of xdm?
[05:18] <yellow> shiv, i believe not
[05:18] <linuxor> yeah fglrx
[05:19] <yellow> shiv, did you try winscp ?
[05:19] <GaiaX11> How do I access a computer which is not in my intranet through ssh? Every time that I do ssh username@ipnumber it hangs!
[05:19] <xelados> Jordan_U: I'd prefer to stay away from GNOME and KDE. :\
[05:19] <cables> Need_support, dammit, I forgot to tell you that the driver breaks suspend/hibernate support
[05:19] <Need_support> cables: ?
[05:19] <phiqtion> piedoggie: can i choose where i want GRUB to be installed?
[05:19] <piedoggie> phiqtion: I believe you can.  I just did an install and I seem to remember something about it installing it in a partition as well as mbr.  But seriously, why?
[05:19] <Jordan_U> xelados: It's not gnome, it's just Gnome's DM
[05:19] <zak__> xelados: i've heard about another feature rich login manager that's not related to any desktop and is pretty light... but i forget what it's called
[05:20] <shiv> yellow, not yet wait
[05:20] <cables> Need_support, if you suspend or hibernate the computer, you won't be able to get back from it, you'll have to shut it down again.
[05:20] <GaiaX11> I remember that in debian it was very easy to do that
[05:20] <xelados> Jordan_U: Doesn't it rely on GNOME for its API or libs?
[05:20] <piedoggie> I've been doing this for way too many years (Red Hat 3.03) and whenever I let grub be smart, it usually wins.  If I try to be smart, I do a reinstall
[05:20] <vox754> pesb10: keep asking here, it's not really that hard.  Or you may have better luck on weekends.
[05:20] <YoshiG3> Isn't there a Ubuntu General channel?
[05:20] <shiv> yellow, I am just typing ftp://<IP_ADDRESS> in IE as both machines are on the same router
[05:20] <yellowdart> linuxor, i would suggest using AIGLX
[05:20] <cables> Need_support, there was a hack that was supposed to fix it, but it made my computer really unstable when I tried it. If you want, I'll send you a link.
[05:20] <xelados> I'm willing to learn as long as I have a good resource.
[05:20] <Need_support> cables: Isee..... so you have a nvidia card also?
[05:20] <phiqtion> piedoggie: because now i believe, GRUB doesn't recognize VISTA or MACOSX86. my vista has everything setup in the bootloader to launch XP, LINUX, and MAC
[05:20] <cables> YoshiG3, for discussion about it?
[05:20] <xelados> That's part of why I went with the server installation option.
[05:20] <cables> Need_support, yep
[05:21] <yellow> shiv, http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.zip
[05:21] <piedoggie> so the question is phiqtion, are you smarter than me?  :-)
[05:21] <Jordan_U> xelados: Yea, but I think most of those libs are required for XFCE also, try running apt-get install gdm and see what it says it will need to install.
[05:21] <GaiaX11> How do I access a computer which is not in my intranet through ssh? Every time that I do ssh username@ipnumber it hangs!
[05:21] <linuxor> yellowdart, how can i find it
[05:21] <GaiaX11> I remember that in debian it was very easy to do that
[05:21] <yellow> shiv, this is scp, not entirely ftp
[05:21] <xelados> Jordan_U: I'm also not using XFCE, but will do.
[05:21] <shmeelAway> cables, didn't work =.=
[05:21] <yellowdart> linuxor, try this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX ..just do the first part.. and make sure that your driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is set to "ati"
[05:21] <shiv> yellow, I see wait then
[05:21] <Need_support> cables: I remeber losing my session twice when hibernating ( I mean the computer :)   )
[05:22] <cables> shmeelAway, run this command: killall nautilus
[05:22] <xelados> 'apt-get install gdm' adds a crapload of new packages.
[05:22] <Jordan_U> xelados: Oh, I thought you had mentioned it before, my mistake
[05:22] <cables> shmeelAway, then right click on something and look at the scripts submenu
[05:22] <xelados> I'd wager it's half of GNOME :p
[05:22] <yellowdart> linuxor, just ignore the beryl stuff.. unless you want a really sweet desktop..
[05:22] <piedoggie> phiqtion: I see, it's the Microsoft trying to own the world model.  It looks like they finally got smart to the boot loader issue.
[05:22] <cables> Need_support, before or after Nvidia?
[05:22] <yellow> shiv, brb
[05:22] <xelados> Jordan_U: No problem. I'm sorry if I sound impatient or cranky. Just trying to learn and wade through it all. :)
[05:22] <phiqtion> piedoggie: because when i start Ubuntu it says something about TTY not being found, any thoughts?
[05:22] <piedoggie> I would suggest doing the install up to the point of installing the boot code.  If it doesn't do is you want, then back off until you can find what you need
[05:23] <phiqtion> piedoggie: so im gonna reiinstall
[05:23] <linuxor> yellowdart, thx a lot friend i'll ttry it and come back, thx
[05:23] <piedoggie> as for the TTY message, that must be happening really early in the boot process
[05:23] <phiqtion> piedoggie: yes it is
[05:23] <piedoggie> I would suspect a problem with init
[05:23] <Need_support> before This ubuntu installation , I had edgy running with a driver ...but for some reason I reinstalled it and problems arose :)
[05:23] <piedoggie> which is definitely a reinstall time
[05:23] <cables> Need_support, weird...
[05:23] <piedoggie> which distribution are you trying to install?
[05:23] <phiqtion> piedoggie: yeah, 6.10
[05:24] <Need_support> cables: I know
[05:24] <Need_support> cablers: :)
[05:24] <Need_support> cables: :)
[05:24] <piedoggie> that goes in slick as iced s***  on most of my machines (except for my Compaq laptop)
[05:24] <piedoggie> here's another potential solution for you
[05:24] <shiv> yellow, boy boy boy I love you. This is cooooool
[05:25] <piedoggie> I run XP because I'm disabled and need to use speech recognition
[05:25] <piedoggie> I run Linux as a virtual machine on top of XP
[05:25] <cables> piedoggie, do you use Dragon? Dragon's great. I wish they'd come out with a Linux version.
[05:25] <piedoggie> speech recognition  to the virtual machine doesn't work well because of some unprintable stuff with nuance and Microsoft
[05:26] <piedoggie> but if I use putty, it works okay
[05:26] <Need_support> cables: I have to go now ..... Thanks for helping me ...won't forget it :)
[05:26] <cables> piedoggie, that's not why... it's because the VM doesn't look like a text box, it looks like an image. So the recognizer can't work with it.
[05:26] <shmeelAway> cables, still not there -.-
[05:26] <cables> piedoggie, Nuance and MIcrosoft don't have any secred deals to keep it from working in VM
[05:26] <piedoggie> so instead of trying to install dual partition dual-boot, run a virtual machine.
[05:26] <cables> shmeelAway, i'm going to look into something
[05:26] <shmeelAway> what do i type in exactly to open up the file i want to edit?
[05:26] <shmeelAway> sudo gedit ____
[05:26] <cables> shmeelAway, you don't need to edit anything...
[05:27] <cables> shmeelAway, this script is for making you not have to use that command
[05:27] <shmeelAway> oh
[05:27] <piedoggie> cables: true, there are no secret deals.  It's only that nuance is firetrucking incompetent
[05:27] <Jordan_U> piedoggie: They probably can't help but you might want to ask about accessibility in #ubuntu-accessibility
[05:27] <piedoggie> I am looking for some talent to help with making speech recognition work across the Windows Linux barrier
[05:28] <cables> piedoggie, they're not. It's not possible for them to work in a VM because a VM is a big image. No textbox, no input.
[05:28] <piedoggie> the project is a mediator to transfer keystrokes over and window state back so that the recognition engine will operate properly
[05:28] <cables> piedoggie, that would be good. But don't blame Nuance for this.
[05:28] <m_billybob> there is no motivation for MS to do so, especially since VIsta is their newest prise, with very good speech recognition
[05:28] <shmeelAway> cables, i have that script already aparently, but i just wnated something so that i could open say my external harddrive as root
[05:29] <piedoggie> Jordan_u: we are speaking terms and I am an acquaintance of one of the accessibility developers who is local to me.  In other words, we'll have lunch and speak friendly :-)
[05:29] <m_billybob> prize*
[05:29] <inazad> Allo, j'aimerais savoir s'il est possible de changer la methode du boot de Ubuntu... genre pour en mettre une differente comme ceux de KNOPPIX.. Est-ce possible ?
[05:29] <cables> shmeelAway, then you change gedit to nautilus.
[05:29] <shmeelAway> and some1 provided me with a script eariler that was right click and you open it as root, but when i reinstalled ubuntu it was lost
[05:30] <cables> shmeelAway, make a copy of the script, rename it something different, and edit it so that it opens nautilus and not gedit
[05:30] <root> can someone hav a look at http://www.pastebin.ca/344991 for me please? fglrx not working
[05:30] <GreyGhost> inazad ,u mean work off a live cd?
[05:30] <piedoggie> cables: the image aspect of the display has nothing to do with it.  It's how keystrokes are injected into the system and communicated to the application.  Naturally speaking injects at a fairly low level but apparently VM Ware connects underneath that
[05:31] <shmeelAway> alright, so i just change the last line of the thing you gave me before?
[05:31] <m_billybob> keyboardhook mangling ?
[05:31] <cables> piedoggie, when I think about it, I guess you're right...
[05:31] <shmeelAway> to "sudo nautilus $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_URIS"
[05:31] <shmeelAway> or do i change something else too
[05:31] <piedoggie> which is why the mediator Project.  if we can capture from NaturallySpeaking and inject at the right level as defined by at-spi, we will be in pretty good shape
[05:31] <cables> that looks right. You may want to change the comment to nautilus too, to make it pretty.
[05:31] <heatman> is there a way i can deactivate my onboard videocard since i have a secondary one.. an pci? it is deactivated in my pc's bios but for some reason ubuntu and other linux os can always detect it.
[05:31] <shmeelAway> lol
[05:32] <piedoggie> anyway, I'm still looking for help with recovering my LVM encumbered partition
[05:33] <shmeelAway> aha!, thanks cables =)
[05:33] <piedoggie> m_billybob was that keyboard hook mangling question directed at me?
[05:33] <GreyGhost> errr... Ubuntu got messedup .... It doesnt boot anymore for me :( ... onl thing i remmber is that i deleted one of my FAT32 partitions from within Windows :( and since then Ubuntu loads up (according to the loaderbar.. but the login windows never comes up.... and Ctrl + alt + F1 ... etc doesnt do anything ..
[05:33] <cables> shmeelAway, no problem
[05:34] <root> can someone hav a look at http://www.pastebin.ca/344991 for me please? fglrx not working
[05:35] <stonarmusic> can someone help me with my ipod shuffle?
[05:35] <stonarmusic> for some reason it's not being detected
[05:35] <inazad> GreyGhost, no I want the boot like these of KNOPPIX... http://tyge.sslug.dk/knoppix/knx5/01-knoppix-boot-process.png
[05:36] <Jordan_U> stonarmusic: Not even as a flash drive?
[05:36] <GreyGhost> inazad ,sorry no idea .. :(
[05:36] <inazad> GreyGhost, ok
[05:36] <IcemanV9> root: did u see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ? i followed its instruction and it is up & running w/o a problem.
[05:37] <xerroz> anyone have luck getting radeon dri to work?
[05:37] <stonarmusic> Jordan_U - no
[05:37] <zak__> heh, i'm doing a pretty windows-centric IT course, and it really surprises me how much linux is like windows
[05:37] <noodles12> for sata harddrives. woudl the adapter type be sda instead of ide? or would we put sata? ( for a vmware file edit
[05:38] <stonarmusic> Jordan-U - it doesn't show up in dmesg either
[05:38] <xelados> Awesome! I figured it out.
[05:38] <xelados> Google was actually helpful.
[05:38] <piedoggie> sata noodles12
[05:38] <root> I'm going to try that one
[05:38] <noodles12> piedoggie: thanks. and how would i makea copy of the mbr?
[05:38] <piedoggie> typo
[05:38] <piedoggie> sda
[05:38] <Jordan_U> stonarmusic: Do other USB flash drives work?
[05:38] <xelados> All I had to do was create a link to my ~/.xinitrc with ~/.xsession, make sure both had +x permissions, and restarted X.
[05:39] <noodles12> piedoggie: so it's sda instead of ide?
[05:39] <noodles12> piedoggie: or sata?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> xelados: Great :)
[05:39] <piedoggie> more correctly, a speech recognition error.  Yes, it's sda instead of ide
[05:39] <piedoggie> I hate having to spell acronyms and device names
[05:39] <heatman> lol
[05:40] <piedoggie> I have to apologize for a lot of misunderstandings
[05:40] <xerroz> is there a way to run a session inside a session?
[05:40] <m_billybob> piedoggie: so make some macros ;)
[05:40] <Jordan_U> piedoggie: Can you teach it new words?
[05:40] <jrib> xerroz: gdmflexserver would be one way
[05:40] <jrib> xerroz: gdmflexiserver even
[05:40] <piedoggie> pastbin of macros in a moment
[05:40] <xelados> What's a good lightweight file manager that's comparable to Thunar but not tied into XFCE?
[05:40] <m_billybob> ru row
[05:40] <xelados> I've heard good things about rox.
[05:40] <m_billybob> ruh row*
[05:41] <xelados> I really like the 'bookmark' feature of thunar.
[05:41] <noodles12> how would u go abotu copying the mbr?
[05:42] <XiCillin> you know what would be cool? an app that shows you all the peripherals attached to your computer
[05:42] <XiCillin> does ubuntu have something like that?
[05:42] <m_billybob> piedoggie: you code ? the latest .NET stuff would work wonders for you, if so, there is supposed to be tons of speech stuff in the framework, if i recal correctly (although i havent 'played' with it personally)
[05:42] <piedoggie> my macros: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4687/
[05:42] <xelados> XiCillin: I have an awesome app for that. It's called 'human-eyes'
[05:42] <xelados> :p
[05:43] <Jordan_U> XiCillin: Yes, can't remember the name for it though
[05:43] <mlalkaka> how come the luxi sans and luxi serif fonts don't appear as options in openoffice.org? they're not in the fonts pull-down menu? is there anything i can do to fix this?
[05:43] <XiCillin> jordan_u, yea eyes work, but not very well under a dark desk
[05:43] <XiCillin> woudl it be in the repos?
[05:43] <piedoggie> m_billybob: I spent 18 years coding, 12 years disabled (became IT consultant), and I've picked up some Python programming by voice over the past five years.  I think I've generated something like eight or 9000 lines of code
[05:44] <piedoggie> the Vista speech recognition may be better but the cost of trying it out is too great
[05:44] <Jordan_U> XiCillin: Device manager sort of does that
[05:44] <m_billybob> piedoggie: something worth looking into, .NET make codinga bit easier
[05:44] <piedoggie> I am so addicted to my Bluetooth headset for speech recognition.  It's the best computer peripheral I've ever had
[05:44] <root> Version: 8.28.8 is the version that xserver-fglrx installed. Where can I get a later version of fglrx? That one apparently won't do. (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[05:44] <piedoggie> only if your hands work
[05:45] <m_billybob> i personally had a hard time doign osme things in C++, C# rolled around, and suddenly, im coding things in hours, that normaly took me weks, if not months before hand
[05:45] <piedoggie> I'm sure.  I've heard quite good things about the environment.  But I spent so many years doing things the hard way that I really like using Python
[05:45] <piedoggie> it's a breeze in comparison.
[05:45] <m_billybob> if you know your libraries sure
[05:46] <m_billybob> .NET however *is* ver OOP
[05:46] <m_billybob> very*
[05:46] <piedoggie> Don't forget, there is this mental resistance to C family languages for me.  That's what I was using when my hands broke and I was fired as soon as they could do so legally
[05:46] <zak__> m_billybob: but ints and stuff still aren't objects, are they?
[05:46] <xelados> piedoggie: How'd you break your hands?
[05:46] <piedoggie> it's an irrational association but I swear to God, every time I try to hack up some C code, I freeze.
[05:46] <m_billybob> zak__: variables are types . . .
[05:46] <zak__> m_billybob: if it has things that aren't objects, i don't consider it object oriented :)
[05:47] <m_billybob> and types can also be object, or, tested as objects :)
[05:47] <piedoggie> xelados: don't really know.  I know that typing made things worse and doctors don't know what's wrong.  It's a neuropathy of some sort but I haven't found anyone that can identify it or treat it
[05:48] <zak__> i like how .NET aims to support several languages... but i wouldn't use it just for C#
[05:48] <piedoggie> under the .net framework, I believe iron Python is supported
[05:49] <cyphase> anyone know what happened to Diva? http://diva-project.org/
[05:49] <m_billybob> piedoggie: you can not even compare C to C++ let alone C#, its completely different, if you're adverse to 'C' use VB.NET, the compiled code comes out the same as C#, and VB.NET is no longer "VB' in that its truely OO, forget abotu the stigma
[05:49] <xcidental> anyone have an idea why dvd playback would crash or where a log file would be with more information on the crash?
[05:49] <m_billybob> piedoggie: keep in mind, i have a high opinion of Phython also
[05:50] <kazukisan> Okay i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and when i reboot for the first time into it i get the ubuntu loading screen then after that i get the screen with the ubuntu color with dark likes and it just sits there looking like its frying my screen ??
[05:50] <piedoggie> it's not a stigma so much as a sensation that I put my hand into it, it willcause me as much pain as putting my hand in boiling water
[05:50] <zak__> m_billybob: i'm sure C# is an improvement over C++, but it [in Mono, anyway]  doesn't run much faster than a decent LISP implementation anyway - and i'd prefer to have something completely dynamic
[05:50] <m_billybob> VB.NET actuall 'speaks' out very simular to english
[05:50] <YoshiG3> Rythmbox is good after you get the right codecs lol
[05:50] <m_billybob> zak__: under windows, .NET apps can be often faster than regular binaries
[05:51] <piedoggie> I used C++ many moons ago, the implementation was cfront.  I get so that it reading the translation of the front-end I could tell the compiler vendor what was going wrong.
[05:51] <m_billybob> i dont claim to be an expert, but it has to do with instruction caching
[05:51] <rich-> need help to install a feisty package on my edgy box, msg me if you can help :)
[05:51] <piedoggie> it could also be a just-in-time compiler
[05:51] <m_billybob> piedoggie: yes, i understand, the sytax can be daunting, one of the things i dont like about it
[05:51] <m_billybob> i think any form oc C, C++ is 'ugly' code
[05:52] <m_billybob> form of*
[05:52] <piedoggie> Microsoft does compilers really well so I wouldn't be surprised if.net made for fast code
[05:52] <Fedge> Has anyone had any luck dual booting vista and ubuntu?
[05:52] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: can u change the background?
[05:52] <kazukisan> no its not even solid its a bunch of lines and it just slowly changes to blackish color back to tanish
[05:52] <m_billybob> piedoggie: well, my 'goal' here, was just to inform, not to 'convert' ;)
[05:52] <kazukisan> and repeats
[05:52] <piedoggie> no problems.  Neither was mind
[05:53] <YoshiG3> Anyone know of some good games for Linux?
[05:53] <m_billybob> simply put, i lost all interrest in coding years ago,  .NET changed that for me big time
[05:55] <m_billybob> piedoggie: oh, just rememberd, i think they even have a Python#, and if i remember that incorrectly i KNOW there is a Perl#
[05:55] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, im trying to boot again with splash and quiet disabled, right now its just sitting on ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0]  bus is 0   and not doing anything from tthere
[05:55] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: strange; never seen it before. did you have that problem with it before you installed Ubuntu??
[05:55] <gerald> can someone help me with dual screen.  I only get a brown screen on my 2nd monitor
[05:55] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, no the live cd even worked
[05:55] <jaydub> fglrx still uses an old driver 8.28 that doesn't match my kernel
[05:55] <jaydub> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[05:55] <jaydub> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[05:55] <GreyGhost> so anyone who can help me? Ubuntu suddenly stopped booting (wont display the login screen...) after i thoink i deleted the FAT32 partition that i've got..
[05:56] <piedoggie> well, m_billybob I am needing some help on a couple of Python projects.  One of them might even be interesting
[05:56] <piedoggie> message me if you're interested
[05:56] <yellowdart> m_billybob, there's way more languages than that: http://www.dotnetpowered.com/languages.aspx
[05:56] <Fedge> Has anyone had success dual-booting vista and ubuntu?
[05:56] <mhiku> why does ncurses isnt on the cvs anymore?
[05:56] <wasabi_> fedge, Should be no different than dual booting XP.
[05:57] <m_billybob> yellowdart: yeah i know, but what i mention could be taken in context, with the 'discussion'
[05:57] <dbglt> has anyone managed to get horizontal scrolling working on a laptop touchpad? According to my xorg config, it should be enabled, but only vertical scroll works
[05:57] <jaydub> I just followed the binary ati install
[05:57] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, If i boot with recovery mode it works
[05:57] <Fedge> wasabi_: after installing ubuntu and creating an emtpy partition for vista, vista won't allow me to install to it
[05:57] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: hmm .. try this command, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, in the terminal. maybe it gives you a better resolution
[05:57] <yellowdart> m_billybob, sorry.. just flipped over to xchat and that caught my eye..no worries
[05:58] <wasabi_> Fedge: vista says what?
[05:58] <YoshiG3> Hey ubuntu guys, I would just like to say that the more I use ubuntu and become familiar with it, the more I like it
[05:58] <m_billybob> none here either :)
[05:58] <YoshiG3> so much more sexy than windows
[05:58] <YoshiG3> wasabi_: lol
[05:58] <slickguy> LinuxMint = my new Ubuntu :p
[05:59] <cables> NetworkManager doesn't connect to my wireless network automatically any more when I start the computer... I have to select it from the list. Any ideas?
[05:59] <zak__> YoshiG3: roadkill is more sexy than windows.
[05:59] <Fedge> wasabi_: "Windows is unable to find a system volume that meets its criteria for installation"
[05:59] <YoshiG3> zak__, lol
[05:59] <m_billybob> wasabi_: yeah, some people actualy use both  ;)
[05:59] <wasabi_> m_billybob: what?
[05:59] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, what ever is going on its with the xserver
[05:59] <m_billybob> windows AND linux
[05:59] <YoshiG3> Is there any way to get more color themes for GNOME? the ubuntu type themes
[05:59] <wasabi_> Fedge: Might try installing vista first. ;)
[05:59] <Fedge> wasabi_: the 50GB NTFS partition i set up is unsatisfactory
[06:00] <Fedge> wasabi_: yeah, i tried that too, and grub corrupted the vista install
[06:00] <wasabi_> Fedge: Oh, what partition is it?
[06:00] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, its a Nvidia card
[06:00] <jaydub> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[06:00] <wasabi_> First one?
[06:00] <Fedge> yeah
[06:00] <jaydub> any one know why?
[06:00] <wasabi_> Hmm.
[06:00] <m_billybob> Fedge: there is a howto floating around on the net, on how to do that
[06:00] <zak__> YoshiG3: there are a lot of themes on art.gnome.org [i think that's it]  - im sure there are some simple colour variations there
[06:00] <m_billybob> dont ask me where, just somethign i ran into like a week ago
[06:00] <Fedge> i've looked at a few, but none address this issue
[06:00] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: ah. no idea about Nvidia card since i use ATI
[06:00] <cables> YoshiG3, try gnome-look.org
[06:01] <wasabi_> Fedge: I'm probably not going to be able to help. Only used Vista on a VM.
[06:01] <YoshiG3> Thanks :D
[06:01] <Fedge> m_billybob: i've looked around, but none cover this problem, maybe you could point me closer
[06:01] <m_billybob> Fedge: the one i was reading specifically said somethign about modifying the boot.ini file
[06:01] <Fedge> wasabi_: no worries, it's not crucial, i'd just like to mess around with both
[06:01] <cris> i need help with beryl
[06:01] <cris> plz
[06:01] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: however, did you use 'nv' in xorg.conf? can you pastebin it?
[06:01] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, yea me nither :( i use ati on my main computer
[06:01] <cables> !beryl | cris
[06:01] <ubotu> cris: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:01] <Fedge> m_billybob: i'll look around, if you remember where you found it, keep me posted
[06:02] <Hmmmm> guys, how do i configure dns on my ubuntu box?
[06:02] <m_billybob> See Sabayon while your at it (beryl) ;)
[06:02] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, its on a laptop and i am in a command prompt so no pasting
[06:02] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: dns server?
[06:02] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, yup
[06:02] <wasabi_> install and configure bind9
[06:02] <cris> i have a problem with it
[06:02] <cables> kazukisan, ctrl-alt-v to paste in command prompt
[06:02] <cris> its so unestable
[06:02] <cables> !beryl | cris
[06:02] <ubotu> cris: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:03] <m_billybob> Fedge: honestly im an info junkie concernign tech,, but it most likely had somethign to do with edgy somehow
[06:03] <cables> cris, go to #ubuntu-effects for beryl help
[06:03] <cris> oh i see, tnxs
[06:03] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, how do i condifure it? i tried and it didn't work
[06:04] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Question ending with "it didn't work" are not answerable.
[06:04] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DNSServerBind didn't work
[06:04] <wasabi_> What "didn't work?"
[06:04] <wasabi_> Explain what isn't working.
[06:04] <cris_> sorry, but what was the addres fo beryl?
[06:04] <cris_> irc
[06:04] <IcemanV9> is it possible to use beryl/compiz from edgy livecd? i just want to see if it works or not.
[06:05] <cables> cris_, #ubuntu-effects
[06:05] <cables> IcemanV9, Sabayon is a good beryl livecd
[06:05] <m_billybob> :P
[06:05] <cables> ha
[06:05] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, well i followed the guide. and now i cant use server.goa.com to see my server from other clients
[06:05] <m_billybob> to be honest, it looks VERY good
[06:06] <YoshiG3> IcemanV9, there's quite a few good live CD's that have XGL and Beryl and whatnot
[06:06] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Do you have any comprehension on how DNS works?
[06:06] <cables> it looks great... but the default minimize and maximize need to be toned down.
[06:06] <IcemanV9> guess edgy livecd couldn't do it. :/
[06:06] <wasabi_> You're going to need that.
[06:06] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, not quite. shud read up on it at wikipedia i guess
[06:06] <wasabi_> Uh huh.
[06:06] <m_billybob> cables: looks too much like VIsta ?
[06:06] <wasabi_> Are your glue records in place?
[06:06] <wasabi_> I see <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:06] <HangTheDJ> hey everyone, i just installed ubuntu on a comp in my house but it wont recognize my wifi card... its a desk top, any suggestion?
[06:07] <cables> m_billybob, no... it's just obnoxious. It's even worse than OS X's genie effect
[06:07] <gerald> how do I restart X
[06:07] <cables> !wifi | HangTheDJ, many wireless cards have driver issues with linux.
[06:07] <ubotu> HangTheDJ, many wireless cards have driver issues with linux.: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:07] <wasabi_> gerald: Log out and press cltr-alt-backspace.
[06:07] <zak__> gerald: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE [not delete]
[06:07] <scabootssca> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:07] <wasabi_> Good as way as any. ;)
[06:07] <m_billybob> cables: ah, i havent tried it yet, its in prgress now (downloading) been reading baout it for a couple opf days though
[06:08] <m_billybob> screenshots ive seen look really good
[06:08] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, im setting up dns for a local machine
[06:08] <scabootssca> hey is there a way to change the permissions on every file and directory in a folder ?
[06:08] <scabootssca> at once
[06:08] <cables> m_billybob, it's really cool... make sure you run beryl-manager to get the beryl options though
[06:08] <Hmmmm> it's not over the web
[06:08] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Then what is goa.com?
[06:08] <m_billybob> and from what ive read, the LiveCD install is just as easy as Edgy's
[06:08] <HangTheDJ> yo thanks for the help
[06:08] <FantasticFoo> i'm trying to compile and install a program that crashes with gtk+ version 2.8 and higher. so i compiled gtk+ 2.6 and installed it in /usr/local, now how do i tell the program i'm trying to compile to use my older gtk in /usr/local instead of my newer gtk in /usr ?
[06:08] <cables> m_billybob, I didn't install it... just ran from live.
[06:08] <aidanr> scabootssca, chmod -R, -R means recursive
[06:08] <m_billybob> and i must say Edgy's liveCD install, is bliss
[06:08] <scabootssca> cool thanks
[06:09] <YoshiG3> Where do I go to change my icon sets?
[06:09] <TravisivarT> hey, i'm not new to ubuntu but I just installed edgy on my friend's computer and it automatically found and added his ntfs partition, it seems i even have read access, how can i get write access easily?  should i use ntfs-3g or is there another option?
[06:09] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, goa.com how i want to access my local server
[06:09] <cables> Does anyone know where NetworkManager sticks its configuration? I need to reset it 'cause it's acting screwy.
[06:09] <Hmmmm> i can call it something else if needed
[06:09] <HangTheDJ> and does anyone know if beryl will run with an nvidia card on ubuntu... i just dont feel like useing fedora 6 and the knoppix 5.1 dvd with beryl wont recognize nvidia
[06:09] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: I don't follow, goa.com is a real domain.
[06:10] <zak__> how do i add commands to start when i log in with gdm/gnome? like, .bashrc - but that's executed in gnome startup [to set desktop-wide environment variables]
[06:10] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, have you tried using wine with it? I've found that if you use wine to extract things, it won't work on a ex3 partition
[06:10] <m_billybob> well IF you are concerned about your data that is
[06:10] <YoshiG3> or whatever the partition is called lol
[06:10] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, so i need to pick something that doesnt exist on the web, is it?
[06:10] <cables> zak__, go to System>Preferences>Sessions and go to the Startup tab
[06:10] <YoshiG3> Where do I go to change my icon sets?
[06:10] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: That would certainly make it easier. ;) Pick foo.local or something.
[06:10] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, hah, that was actually exactly what i was doing, i ran WOW off of his ntfs partition, so i don't have write access?
[06:10] <Hmmmm> ah okay, wasabi_
[06:10] <spike723_> anyone know how I can get a program that that it can use the root window in ubuntu?
[06:10] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: The thing is each level has to point to the next.
[06:11] <wasabi_> To find goa.com, the clients talk to the server, which finds the server for .com.
[06:11] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, Well I would imagine that WOW writes
[06:11] <wasabi_> And looks up the records for goa.com, and then goes and talks to that server.
[06:11] <zak__> cables: thanks... can i just run .bashrc from that - or will that screw anything up?
[06:11] <cables> spike723_, root window? You mean root terminal? run sudo -i for that
[06:11] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, i see
[06:11] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, So you should be able to get a file browser and things like that for wine and do things
[06:11] <cables> zak__, no idea... try it.
[06:11] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, so would i haha, so what's the "best" way to get write support?
[06:11] <YoshiG3> !icons
[06:11] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: And unless the clients talk specifically to your server, they'll go find goa.com someplace else.
[06:11] <Hmmmm> so i should prolly try with goa.local
[06:11] <zak__> cables: will do, thanks
[06:11] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, Well I'm kinda new, but what exactly are you trying to write?
[06:11] <wasabi_> They will need to talk to your server anyways, but masking out some legitimate TLD is wrong.
[06:11] <XiCillin> i have a UPS and ubuntu autodetected it! and the power manegement is using it
[06:11] <XiCillin> awesomee
[06:12] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: And all the clients need to have their local DNS configured to point to your new DNS server.
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> anyone on the beryl question i asked?
[06:12] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, well i'd need write support to run most things off of the ntfs partition wouldn't i?
[06:12] <Hmmmm> wasabi_,  can i call my server server.goa ?
[06:12] <aidanr> YoshiG3, gnome-theme-manager
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> l
[06:12] <cables> !beryl | HangTheDj, this isn't the place for beryl questions.
[06:12] <wasabi_> TravisivarT: What do you play to "run" off the NTFS partition?
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> and does anyone know if beryl will run with an nvidia card on ubuntu... i just dont feel like useing fedora 6 and the knoppix 5.1 dvd with beryl wont recognize nvidia
[06:12] <XiCillin> Ubuntu should have better gamepad support
[06:12] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: You can. .local is better. It's pretty much recognized as "for this stuff"
[06:12] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, I think you do have write support if you can run wow FROM the NTFS partition
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> oh sorry
[06:12] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, okay
[06:12] <m_billybob> from what ive read, NTFS writting, under linux,  you need the file you're writting to , to be in existance already, and the file size needs to stay the same size
[06:12] <cables> HangTheDJ, go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <wasabi_> m_billybob: ntfs-3g has full read/write support.
[06:13] <wasabi_> ANd it works pretty good.
[06:13] <cables> ubotu appears to be down...
[06:13] <m_billybob> wasabi_: thats heartening
[06:13] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, well i didn't do too much, i just launched the launcher, that's about it
[06:13] <HangTheDJ> cables: do you know of a # that would anwer beryl questions?
[06:13] <cables> Is it just me or is Ubotu down?
[06:13] <m_billybob> wasabi_: the part that bothers me, is the 'works *pretty* good' part
[06:13] <cables> HangTheDJ, like I said, #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <TravisivarT> wasabi_, is ntfs-3g the way to go? i was pretty sure there was an alternative, any preference between the two?
[06:13] <HangTheDJ> thanks
[06:14] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, yeah, and I'm sure the patcher has to do it's things, as well as whatever else WoW saves to the HD(I know it saves things, I forget what it is)
[06:14] <wasabi_> m_billybob: Well, if you can find a known bug, then point it out. But it's pretty clean at this point.
[06:14] <m_billybob> wasabi_: if it worked 100% , i wouldnt have a problem with it at all
[06:14] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, so i should go throug hthe same tutorial using local, eh?
[06:14] <wasabi_> TravisivarT: The alternative is the ... captiventfs driver I believe. It runs NTFS.SYS
[06:14] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Yeah, also, the clients have to point to the server, and use 'dig' to test.
[06:14] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, wokay sir. thanks a ton
[06:14] <Hmmmm> wasabi_,  will check and revert
[06:14] <spike723_> cables: I mean the desktop root?
[06:15] <spike723_> like if you run xphoon or xsnow
[06:15] <spike723_> it replaces the desktop with that program
[06:15] <cables> spike723_, no idea... sorry
[06:15] <TravisivarT> wasabi_, so ntfs-3g is the way to go then?
[06:15] <m_billybob> wasabi_: its not that i like to be a nay sayer, just that my data usually is pretty important to me, id really hate to lern the hard way
[06:16] <wasabi_> m_billybob: Sure... but at some point you need to get over it. ;)
[06:16] <Bakefy> do I have to enable something to use an FTP client?
[06:16] <Bakefy> I cant connect to shit
[06:16] <bean-oh> Bakefy, you shouldn't need to
[06:16] <tvgm2> I've never had a problem with NTFS-3G, just mounting them.
[06:17] <Bakefy> hmmm, it must be my xbox only allowing flashfxp
[06:17] <Bakefy> thanks
[06:17] <axisys> !tell about kvm
[06:18] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, Now the live CD is doing the same thing ....
[06:18] <axisys> !kvm
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <m_billybob> sounds like someones hardware is actuing up.
[06:18] <TravisivarT> m_billybob: #gamedev?
[06:18] <m_billybob> acting up*
[06:19] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: like the screen is dying? ;)
[06:19] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: what about it ?
[06:19] <TravisivarT> << Ademan :-)
[06:19] <m_billybob> heya
[06:19] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, only does it on boot up splash screen looks perfect and everything like text and stuff does too
[06:20] <m_billybob> ademan: yeah, i hardly pay attention in there any more, seems to have gone downhill somewhat, in the last couple of years
[06:20] <HangTheDJ> does anyone know a # for knoppix users?
[06:20] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, if i dont boot in recovery mode but disable splash and quiet mode it still freezes up just in the text mode
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> How do I get DHCP working
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> ??
[06:20] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, yeah i just kinda lurk there
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> I have the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file configured
[06:20] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: noapci ?
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> However, dhcp won't start
[06:21] <m_billybob> DigitalNinja: DHCP HOW ? DHCPD or just DHCP connection ?
[06:21] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, im trying to boot again with splash and quiet disabled, right now its just sitting on ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0]  bus is 0   and not doing anything from tthere
[06:21] <DigitalNinja> DHCPD
[06:21] <unop> DigitalNinja,  what happens when you try and start the server?
[06:21] <m_billybob> err sorry about caps
[06:21] <DigitalNinja> dhcp3-server
[06:21] <DigitalNinja> unop: it syas "fail"
[06:22] <m_billybob> DigitalNinja: first of all, do you already have a DHCP server on your netork ?
[06:22] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: includes "noapci" for boot option
[06:22] <m_billybob> network*
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> m_billybob: Yes and no
[06:22] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, okay trying
[06:22] <unop> m_billybob,  that shouldnt make a difference
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> I'm build an LTSP server
[06:22] <m_billybob> it can
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> It's got two network cards
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> I want thin clients on another subnet
[06:23] <DigitalNinja> It should work
[06:23] <caturOK> i have one ethernet with virtual alias
[06:23] <TravisivarT> !ntfs-3g
[06:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:23] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, APCI or ACPI ?
[06:23] <caturOK> and use shorewall
[06:23] <DigitalNinja> I've done this before but every time I do a new one I have trouble with DHCP
[06:23] <caturOK> but
[06:23] <caturOK> why
[06:23] <unop> m_billybob,  multiple dhcp servers can coexist quite well - just as long as they are able to ping the addresses they lease out first
[06:23] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: acpi
[06:23] <unop> DigitalNinja,  I'm afraid we'll need an exact error message to work on -- "fail" just wont do
[06:23] <DigitalNinja> unop: that's all I get
[06:24] <caturOK> interfaces eth0:0 not detect on my shorewall
[06:24] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, Still froze in same spot when adding noacpi
[06:24] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, hi, i have gone throug hthe guide again
[06:24] <nrot> hi all, i had a question, i have been looking for hours on the subject, but i cant find a clear cut guide to setting up ubuntu sysklog or syslog-ng to work with my dd-wrt firmware flashed wrt54g
[06:24] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, i have one question
[06:24] <wasabi_> ?
[06:24] <DigitalNinja> unop: * Starting DHCP server:                                                 [fail]
[06:24] <DigitalNinja> unop
[06:24] <TravisivarT> wasabi_: ubotu tells me that to install ntfs-3g you need to add a bunch of repos, but it seems to be in the main repos, is it just a newer version in those repos?
[06:24] <DigitalNinja> unop: hold on
[06:24] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, on the client machines, shoudl i remove the original isp's dns server from resolv.conf?
[06:25] <unop> DigitalNinja, right, check syslog for any messages dumped there -- usually /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg
[06:25] <slyfox> Can anyone help - I cannot Log in to Console, Ctrl+alt+F1 only gives me a black screen
[06:25] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, or should i just add the local along with them?
[06:25] <m_billybob> DigitalNinja: i assume you've already checked to make sure it wasnt already running ?
[06:25] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: i dunno what else to say .. i used noacpi option on HP laptop with Duron and it worked.
[06:25] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Remove the original.
[06:25] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Otherwise the ISP's servers will respond with NXDOMAIN; no domain exists.
[06:26] <sivik> how do i recompile a .deb package to work in edgy, the latest one is only for dapper
[06:26] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, but then how will i access the web from the client machines?
[06:26] <FantasticFoo> what version of python does ubuntu use?
[06:26] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, actually tried again and it went past that part this time
[06:26] <mindstate> wassup everyone
[06:26] <Asc__> 2.4 I think
[06:26] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, i use the client machines from home and office
[06:26] <DigitalNinja> unop: I love setting up "all.log"
[06:26] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, but it still does that screen dieing thing lol
[06:27] <unop> DigitalNinja,  heh, what a nightmare it must be weeding through all that is dumped there? :)
[06:27] <Asc__> FantasticFoo: Yes, it uses 2.4 by default.
[06:27] <DigitalNinja> unop: Here's what I got in all.log: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[06:27] <quaal> could anyone help with mounting a raid-0 partition ?
[06:27] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: what about this one --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, in the terminal.
[06:27] <unop> sivik,  the package should work on edgy too
[06:27] <quaal> not having much luck finding support on the issue
[06:28] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: You will need to configure your DNS server to forward to upstream DNS servers.
[06:28] <DigitalNinja> unop: I grep it for things. It beats not haveing a log of what happend.
[06:28] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, i tried that, i even tried changing rez and changing to the nv driver
[06:28] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, okay
[06:28] <sivik> unop: ok
[06:28] <m_billybob> quaal: elaborate
[06:28] <DigitalNinja> unop: How do I tell dhcp what interface to listen to
[06:28] <nixnub> hello
[06:28] <sivik> unop: its a gaim plugin, xfire
[06:29] <quaal> m_billybob, well.. this is the guide i've tried to use http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557
[06:29] <linuxor>  HOW DO I START AND STOP INTERNET BY COMMAND-LINES?
[06:29] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: what about horizsync & vertrefresh ?
[06:29] <m_billybob> quaal: tell me your problems
[06:29] <quaal> my post is the last in the thread stating my problem.. cannot find anything in /dev/mapper
[06:29] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, yep
[06:29] <unop> DigitalNinja, well, it should listen on all interfaces -- but it needs to provide addresses for specific subnets -- i suspect that you have some sort of error in your dhcpd.conf
[06:29] <IcemanV9> !shout | linuxor
[06:29] <ubotu> linuxor: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:29] <quaal> m_billybob, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2115877&postcount=38
[06:30] <nixnub> can anyone help me with mounting windows drives...I have tried using guides but i must have gone wrong somewhere
[06:30] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: ha. dunno any more. :/
[06:30] <linuxor> sorry
[06:30] <unop> linuxor,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:30] <m_billybob> quaal: be patient, im seriously downloading atm :)
[06:30] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, im gona try and upgrade from command prompt see if that fix's anything
[06:30] <buchan> But internet != network :O
[06:30] <quaal> m_billybob, any help is greatly appreciated. i am stumped.
[06:30] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, Thanks for trying to help :D
[06:30] <DigitalNinja> unop: I'll check
[06:30] <linuxor> unop yhx
[06:30] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: hope it works!
[06:30] <slyfox> Can anyone help - I cannot Log in to Console, Ctrl+alt+F1 only gives me a black screen
[06:31] <unop> DigitalNinja,  pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and dhcpd.conf  -- i'll have a look
[06:31] <m_billybob> quaal: fake raid, or MD raid ?
[06:31] <m_billybob> fake raid being  onboard RAID
[06:31] <quaal> m_billybob, i'm not too sure
[06:31] <quaal> its the Sil3112a chipset
[06:31] <DigitalNinja> unop: I'm not sure how to past them. Do you want me to do it in this channel?
[06:31] <quaal> comes on the Abit NF7-S motherboard
[06:31] <m_billybob> quaal: well MD raid would be linux software raid
[06:31] <quaal> m_billybob, hmm
[06:32] <unop> buchan,  if the internet is not a network (or an internetwork), what is it? :)
[06:32] <m_billybob> yeah quaal, i actuall have dapper + edgy on a ABIT NF7-S2G
[06:32] <m_billybob> it wont be recconised in hardware, you'd have to set it up in linux software
[06:32] <unop> DigitalNinja,  post to http://pastebin.ca and give us the URL you are given there
[06:32] <quaal> m_billybob, and you can mount a raid-0 partition with no problem ?
[06:32] <quaal> m_billybob, i am trying to mount an ntfs partition
[06:32] <quaal> not install ubuntu on it
[06:32] <m_billybob> quaal: software RAID, yes, onboard hardware raid, no
[06:32] <m_billybob> ah
[06:32] <sivik> how do i get the xfire plugin to work for gaim?
[06:33] <m_billybob> thats a big problem
[06:33] <quaal> m_billybob, i dont mind which, i just want to access the ntfs drive contents
[06:33] <DigitalNinja> unop: give me 2 seconds
[06:33] <quaal> m_billybob, as stated in my post, i also have a standalone sil3112a pci card, running 1 SATA drive, which i have mounted and am using fine
[06:33] <m_billybob> quaal: well if you can find driver modules, you MAY beable to get it to work, however, i never tried as MD raid is much faster than most fake raid anyhow
[06:33] <quaal> m_billybob, so it appears to be an issue with the raid array
[06:33] <davin> How do I chown all sub-directories in a folder?
[06:33] <davin> i.e. /home/davin/Pics/*
[06:33] <unop> davin,  use the -R flag to chown
[06:34] <nixnub> can anyone help me with mounting a windows drive?
[06:34] <davin> unop thanks!
[06:34] <quaal> m_billybob, i remember getting it mounted fine in mandrake..
[06:34] <quaal> m_billybob, my fstab is posted in the thread also. not sure if that helps
[06:34] <m_billybob> quaal: you followed that tutorial exactly ?
[06:34] <quaal> to the T
[06:34] <unop> davin, i dont know why you didnt refer to the man/help pages -- man chown and chown --help .. they both list it
[06:35] <DigitalNinja> unop: here it is http://pastebin.ca/345031
[06:35] <high-freq> i did a apt-get dist-upgrade  and now sound doesn't work.  any suggestions?
[06:35] <m_billybob> quaal: what does 'fdisk -l' say ?
[06:35] <sivik> has anyone used the gaim plugin xfire?
[06:35] <phiqtion> why can't i select 1280x1024 for my screen resolution? my monitor supports it just fine. maybe it was because i installed Ubuntu in safe graphics mode? any thoughts?
[06:35] <m_billybob> thats L lower case
[06:35] <quaal> m_billybob, thats what i have in my post... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2115877&postcount=38
[06:35] <Flannel> !fixres | phiqtion
[06:35] <ubotu> phiqtion: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:36] <DigitalNinja> high-freq: That's for upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu/Debian. What version did you start with?
[06:36] <high-freq> was dapper
[06:36] <high-freq> to edgy
[06:36] <high-freq> now on 6.10
[06:36] <DigitalNinja> Upgrades don't always work
[06:36] <nixnub> Anybody feel like helping a newbie?
[06:36] <high-freq> ya
[06:36] <high-freq> guess this one did it ;(
[06:36] <high-freq> worked on the laptop just fine..hehe
[06:37] <m_billybob> quaal: if what im seeing there is correct, it looks as though its already setup
[06:37] <yellowdart> linuxor, did AIGLX work?
[06:37] <peanutb> high-freq, consider yourself very lucky
[06:37] <m_billybob> '/dev/sdc1'
[06:37] <high-freq> is there a fix for it yet?
[06:37] <quaal> m_billybob, /dev/sdb is one of the drives, /dev/sdc is the other drive
[06:37] <quaal> those are the 2 in the raid-0 array
[06:37] <quaal> both the same size
[06:38] <peanutb> high-freq, did you try reconfiguring alsa?
[06:38] <m_billybob> wuaal read the code you linked me to
[06:38] <m_billybob>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:38] <DigitalNinja> unop: Did you see my post?
[06:38] <m_billybob> ./dev/sdc1   *           1       39858   320159353+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:38] <high-freq> peanutb: only alsa commands i have is alsactl and alsamixer now
[06:38] <Flannel> !anyone | nixnub
[06:38] <ubotu> nixnub: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:38] <quaal> m_billybob, so you're saying just mount sdc1 ?
[06:39] <m_billybob> quaal: i could be wrong, but that looks like a 320 GB partition to me on sdc1
[06:39] <m_billybob> or 2x 160
[06:39] <quaal> you're totally right
[06:39] <quaal> m_billybob, why did i not see this before ?
[06:39] <m_billybob> fristration ?
[06:39] <quaal> m_billybob, 1 sec, attempting mount
[06:39] <m_billybob> frustration*
[06:39] <TravisivarT> !sound
[06:39] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:39] <nixnub> ubotu, i did ask the first 2 times...anyway i am looking for help mounting a windows drive...tried the tutorial but its still not working corectly
[06:40] <cables> mixnub, ubotu is a bot
[06:40] <Flannel> nixnub: what problems you having?
[06:40] <m_billybob> quaal: you've actuall gotten further with onbaord raid than I have, however, my onbaord RAID is NV raid :/
[06:40] <cables> nixnub, ubotu is a bot
[06:40] <phiqtion> how can i make changes to DNS servers PERMANENT???
[06:40] <peanutb> high-freq, id try reinstalling alsa-base
[06:40] <high-freq> did ;(
[06:40] <unop> DigitalNinja,  yep -- can't seem to find anything that might be wrong -- what i would do now is backup this copy and start again by including only very basic directives e.g. ranges, lease times, routers, etc
[06:40] <quaal> m_billybob, ah.. you say you had the NF7-Sversion 2 ?
[06:40] <phiqtion> !xserver
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <nixnub> lol ok...i tried mounting using the tutorials but its still not showing up and when i go to the folder through the browser it says unreadable in the prperties
[06:41] <m_billybob> NF7-S2G, no sil3112, but has GbE
[06:41] <noodles12> i got vmware running and see the computer starting up and i can choose windows for the boot from grub. But then the screen turns black, adn then gets bigger as if it is done loading but stays black. I believe Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":1.0". is the problem. any suggestions and getting my display to work in vmware?
[06:41] <PCGenie> bye all
[06:41] <DigitalNinja> unop: Well, now I know there aren't any issues with the dhcpd.conf file.
[06:41] <Flannel> nixnub: which tutorial(s)?
[06:41] <unop> phiqtion, why dont they stick  now?
[06:41] <m_billybob> quaal: how'd the mount go ?
[06:41] <DigitalNinja> unop: Thansk for look at it. Now I can check other parts of the system.
[06:41] <phiqtion> unop: what do you mean?
[06:41] <nixnub> it was in the ubuntu forums
[06:41] <quaal> m_billybob, getting sidetracked.. trying to find my fstab
[06:42] <quaal> where the hell is it again
[06:42] <quaal> i thought /etc/fstab
[06:42] <Flannel> !ntfs | nixnub, try this one
[06:42] <ubotu> nixnub, try this one: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:42] <m_billybob> quaal
[06:42] <Fedge> Is there a way to install ubuntu desktop from the edgy cd without installing grub?
[06:42] <m_billybob> quall: quick test, mkdir /home/test | mount /dev/sdc1 /home/test
[06:42] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[06:42] <unop> DigitalNinja,  well, i didnt say that  -- i said i cant find anything just by a quick glance -- but you seem to have a few directives that are potential problems, like the filename and root-path directives
[06:42] <Flannel> Fedge: yeah, you can choose to install without a bootloader.
[06:42] <m_billybob> quaal: then just cd /home/test
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> unop: Those are for LTSP
[06:43] <m_billybob> ls whatever, but i wouldnt write to it
[06:43] <Fedge> flannel: i don't remember ever seeing that option, where do I do so?
[06:43] <unop> DigitalNinja,  it's better to ensure that the very basic directives work before adding on the ones for other services
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> unop: Ture
[06:43] <Flannel> Fedge: you have the Desktop CD or the alternate one?
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> True
[06:43] <Fedge> Flannel: desktop
[06:43] <m_billybob> quaal: that would be /etc/fstab btw :)
[06:44] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[06:44] <peanutb> high-freq, hmm i cant find anything, at what point does it fail?
[06:45] <unop> phiqtion,  you said "changes to DNS servers" werent permananent, i was trying to find out what about them changed and how/when?
[06:45] <high-freq> seems like...hmm hold on sec
[06:45] <nrot> so no one has any experience with syslog and a wrt54g router that could help me?
[06:45] <phiqtion> unop: i want to select what DNS servers mi ip connects to, but the changes are temporary in the session, unpon reboot, they are gone and i have to select them again
[06:45] <nixnub> that tutorial isnt working for me either
[06:45] <Flannel> Fedge: something liek this: http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=755&fullsize=1  and then you click (on that image) the hd0 and it'll ask.  Or at least, that's how I believe it works.
[06:46] <high-freq> peanutb: looks like alsalib prob
[06:46] <unop> phiqtion,  you mean the settings in /etc/resolv.conf?
[06:46] <unop> nrot,  whats the issue?
[06:46] <phiqtion> unop: no, SYSTEM - ADMINISTRATION - NETWORKING - DNS
[06:46] <newbieme> hello everyone! what application that caters divX video or simply a dvd video?
[06:46] <Fedge> flannel: ooh you're right! i forgot that step.  thanks very much
[06:46] <Flannel> nixnub: "doesn't work" doesn't tell us a whole lot, does it give you specific errors? or what?
[06:46] <nrot> i cant figure out where its saving the log file to, my /var/syslog is just system stuff, nothing from my actual router
[06:47] <TravisivarT> I can't get my Intel 82801G onboard sound to work, any suggestsions?  Do i have to recompile ALL of alsa?
[06:47] <xerroz> anyone have luck getting radeon dri to work?
[06:47] <unop> phiqtion,  i believe they are settings pulled from /etc/resolv.conf  -- what happens when you try to remove the resolvconf package?
[06:47] <gerald> can anyoone help me with dualhead?
[06:47] <phiqtion> unop: nevermind, forgot to save as profile
[06:47] <gerald> i'm reallyc lose
[06:47] <m_billybob> Ademan: you did a debian-reconfigure and tried the sound configure stuff ?
[06:47] <beoba> http://goat.se/cx/ surprisingly safe for work
[06:48] <caturOK> how about my ques
[06:48] <quaal> ha
[06:48] <caturOK> help me plz
[06:48] <nixnub> the tutorial says to get diskmounter, so i do the wget....  but when i try 'sudo bash diskmounter'  it says "no such file or directory"
[06:48] <m_billybob> quaal: works i take it ?
[06:48] <unop> nrot,  errm, i assume you have configured the router to use this syslog server?
[06:48] <joe___> hey there, im new to linux in general and have just installed ubuntu, though ive noticed ubuntu seems to lag a bit, overlapping of text, and 'jaggednis', ive used the partition tool so ive also got windows xp,  how can i possibly speed ubuntu up? ive got 1gig of ram
[06:48] <phiqtion> any info on beryl?
[06:48] <jstarcher> Does anyone know what this means? "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8774, but this client has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
[06:48] <aalhamad> how can i know the speed of my dsl with a command line??
[06:48] <nrot> yep, i am using dd-wrt firmware, and i can see Firestarter blocking the packets, but i set my router to be accepted, but im not sure where to go after that
[06:48] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: tried debian-reconfigure, and reconfigure the sound part
[06:48] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, nope, can i avoid doing a huge reconfigure and just do sound?  debian-reconfigure alsa or something?
[06:49] <enat> hi, i'm trying to use a pub/private key combo for ssh'ing into boxes at work, but when i try to ssh in .. it asks for the identity passphrase
[06:49] <enat> which i don't know
[06:49] <m_billybob> try*
[06:49] <davin> Sometimes my monitor goes idle (signal-less) and the audio stops, but my PC stays on all of a sudden (like 30 mins after boot up) but it does not happen every time, any explanation? im on Dapper x86
[06:49] <enat> when i was at work it didn't ask for it (using securecrt on windows)
[06:49] <enat> any ideas?
[06:49] <unop> nrot,  if your router has a log file -- it's likely those very same messages in the log were also sent to syslog -- if i were you, i'd take a few keywords from the log and grep all the files in the /var/log directory
[06:49] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: im not sure what you've done, but it is possible, yes
[06:49] <joe___> can anyone give me a good link to desktop themes for ubuntu?
[06:49] <high-freq> peanutb: hey i'm outty...i need sleep....i'll figure it out tomorrow...thx for help tho bud...
[06:49] <nrot> how do i grep an entire dir for a keyword?
[06:49] <sear_yoda> i'm wondering if it's possible to run a copy of windows installed to another partition from a VM within linux...know if this is possible?
[06:49] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: cant really hurt to try
[06:50] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: just dont touch the other options
[06:50] <enat> joe___: www.gnome-look.org ?
[06:50] <unop> nrot,  sudo grep -inHR 'keywords' /var/log/*
[06:50] <nrot> sear_yoda, yes it is, it was just on digg.com
[06:50] <sear_yoda> fancy that
[06:50] <davin> like I was just running Listen Media Manager, Gaim and Firefox and all of a sudden a black screen [signal-less]  and no sound, but PC stays on
[06:50] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, what command would i run exactly?  dpkg-reconfigure wants an exact package, and alsa-base doesn't have anything to configure apparently
[06:50] <quaal> m_billybob, http://pastebin.ca/345035
[06:51] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: 'debian-reconfigure'
[06:51] <aalhamad> PLzzz help --------- how can  i know the speed of my ADSL ? with a command line ?
[06:51] <enat> anybody know what ssh is asking for the identity passphrase when securecrt on windows didn't?
[06:51] <enat> helo? heh
[06:51] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, says it doesn't exist
[06:51] <enat> s/what/shy
[06:51] <enat> s/shy/why
[06:51] <enat> :/
[06:51] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: apt-cache search debian-reconfigure
[06:51] <nrot> /var/log/syslog:228:Feb  1 22:35:50 Torn-WRT kernel: klogd started: DD-WRT VeryBusyBox v1.2.1 (2006.09.15-18:40+0000) is all i can find of my router, and thats from a week ago
[06:52] <jay> If I blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted.... and cp /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/volate I get dri working. BUT the .ko is always deleted on reboot
[06:52] <m_billybob> quaal: ok, thats a FS error, you need to do a mount -t <fstype> /dev/sdc1 /mountpoint
[06:52] <m_billybob> quaal: not sure how yo uspecify 'NTFS'
[06:52] <m_billybob> Im not sure
[06:52] <unop> nrot,  well, it's quite likely that the router has not logged anything to syslog since
[06:53] <gerald> can anyone help me with dualhead.  I got the 2nd screen to work, but i can only get my mouse to move at the edge of the 2nd monitor
[06:53] <m_billybob> quaal: however, man mount will tell you
[06:53] <quaal> m_billybob, it is ntfs in fstab. when i did your test command i get mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:53] <gerald> and both my monitors do not have identical resolutions
[06:53] <cris> hindi?
[06:53] <quaal> i'll just try to copy my current fstabs
[06:53] <reach> if you wanner ntfs ,recompiler the kernel or download the module patch
[06:53] <joe___> hey i downloaded the glass icon theme for ubuntu, and tried to intstall it with the theme, but its not working?
[06:54] <quaal> reach, what.
[06:54] <m_billybob> quaal: you need to do mount -t <insert type for NTFS> /dev/sdc1 / /mounpoint
[06:54] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, turned up nothing
[06:54] <quaal> m_billybob, NTFS = ntfs
[06:54] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: Edgy or dapper ?
[06:54] <quaal> m_billybob, /dev/sda1	/mnt/winxp	ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[06:54] <aliasgherman> I need help on network booting
[06:54] <sear_yoda> gerald, this may sound dumb, but are you sure the screens aren't set up on the wrong side of each other? try going off the other edge of the screen
[06:54] <m_billybob> quaal: working now ?
[06:54] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, edgy
[06:55] <reach> for ntfs rw ,there are 2 methods ,one to reconfig you kernel ,the other is to download the kernel module patch according to you kernel version
[06:55] <m_billybob> Ademan, give me a minute
[06:55] <Roscar> does anybody here know of a mspaint clone?
[06:55] <unop> nrot, well, from that error message - it looks like the router there just booted up or something -- you could try restarting the router to see if syslog picks anything up
[06:55] <aliasgherman> Is there any utility that can supply the clients with network boot + KDE Desktop
[06:55] <yellowdart> my laptop seems to hang on boot when it's initializing network devices.. this probably has to do with my wifi.. any suggestions on helping it not "stick"
[06:55] <m_billybob> quaal: anyjow, ive never mounted NTFS in linux, so maybe someone else can help you from here
[06:55] <nrot> i should just rm all those logs, and start fresh, so i know where everything is being put at
[06:55] <quaal> ok
[06:55] <m_billybob> as i have zero experrience with that specifically
[06:55] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[06:55] <matheuu> Hi is there anyone out there who could help me fix an error in my  ..apt/source.list file....I seem to have a ...wget... problem  and it is stoping me from downloading from any place
[06:55] <quaal> m_billybob, i appreciate your time
[06:56] <joe___> hey ive just recieved an error "the application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly, what does this mean?
[06:56] <unop> nrot,  dont rm them -- move them elsewhere
[06:56] <m_billybob> quaal: glad to help
[06:56] <m_billybob> Ademan, ok, give me a minute
[06:56] <jay> If I blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted.... and cp /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/volate I get dri working. BUT the .ko is always deleted on reboot
[06:56] <reach> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/c
[06:56] <reach> just like that
[06:56] <quaal> reach, yea thats what i just tried
[06:56] <m_billybob> isnt that what i just said without the 'ntfs' ?
[06:56] <quaal> maybe it needs the uname=0222 though
[06:56] <quaal> like in the fstab
[06:57] <reach> but does you kernel supports the ntfs file system?
[06:57] <jetsaredim> is it possible to change the dhcp client on my kubuntu edgy install from dhclient to dhcpcd??
[06:57] <unop> jay,  i dont know much about fglrx -- but why dont you just install the appropriate package and do things the normal way?
[06:57] <Roscar> so if you guys want to draw a shitty drawing, do you use the gimp? cause that seems like overkill.
[06:57] <unop> jetsaredim,  dhcpd is not a dhcp client -- its a dhcp server
[06:57] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: internet slow, looking for a link, give me a few
[06:58] <reach> if not ,you should recompile your kernel.
[06:58] <jetsaredim> unop: no not dhcpd - dhcpcd
[06:58] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: you ARE root, or uysing sudo no ?
[06:58] <unop> !language | Roscar
[06:58] <ubotu> Roscar: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:58] <Roscar> ah, sorry, I'm a sailor.
[06:58] <ubuntusucks> ubuntu can't even install itself properly, its so gay!
[06:58] <Roscar> we sail the mighty seas.
[06:58] <quaal> reach, i currently have 3 ntfs drives mounted and working properly.
[06:58] <davin> thanks ubuntusucks, thats really valuable to us </sarcasm>
[06:59] <Roscar> ubuntusucks: language!
[06:59] <quaal> so i think its working
[06:59] <unop> Roscar,  that depends on what's to be drawn -- i use gimp for the odd diagrams -- dia for technical stuff
[06:59] <reach> are you sure they are working well?
[06:59] <quaal> or ntfs is supported
[06:59] <quaal> reach, dont know what you mean by 'well'
[06:59] <quaal> i can read from them
[06:59] <yellowdart> quaal, try ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubuntusucks> davin: as much as your answer actually
[06:59] <quaal> thats all i need to do
[06:59] <unop> Roscar,  seriously, why the language -- kids and people offended by that sort of language walk in here all the time
[06:59] <Roscar> but nothing on the low level of paint eh? internet searching seems to agree with this.
[06:59] <davin> ubuntusucks #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:59] <jetsaredim> unop: see the difference?
[07:00] <enat> ANYBODY KNOW WHY SSH IS ASKING FOR this private keys passphrase? when it doesn't using securecrt on windows?
[07:00] <enat> :-S
[07:00] <enat> sorry for the initial caps heh
[07:00] <ubuntusucks> so now that i got some attention, is some guru gonna help me out or what
[07:00] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, i sudo when i need it, was there a command i NEEDED to be sudo for?  (apt-cache i was)
[07:00] <MindFreak> How do I go about downgrading from BitTornado 0.3.18 to 0.3.17 ( keep uninstalling it, and it never changes versions)
[07:00] <Roscar> unop: hey, I said one swear word, was corrected, and didn't say another. No big deal.
[07:00] <reach> what's you kernel version?
[07:00] <davin> ubuntusucks not if you change your attitude, your nick and your language
[07:00] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[07:00] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: my bad . . its 'configure-debian'
[07:00] <m_billybob> i rarely use it, so i forgot :/
[07:00] <unop> jetsaredim,  aye -- i should imagine that you remove dhclient and substitute it with dhcpcd
[07:01] <m_billybob> only time i have used it, is on a bootstrap to be honest
[07:01] <enat> phiqtion: most likely isn't in your xorg.conf
[07:01] <davin> ubuntusucks I find it offensive
[07:01] <jzlP> hello, I just mounted to NTFS drives within my ubuntu server via ntfs-3g.  I names of the drives were Media 1 and Media 2.  ntfs-config created the folders within /media/ for me and mounted the drives... I would like to rename the drives to media1 and media2.  but keep getting errors. can someone help?
[07:01] <m_billybob> davin: good
[07:01] <reach> and what are your ntfs drivers ? in my words ,they are just some kernel modules
[07:01] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, thanks
[07:01] <phiqtion> enat: how to enable? with a refresh rate of 85hz
[07:01] <davin> m_billybob: what do you need help with?
[07:01] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: let me know if that works
[07:01] <yellowdart> quaal, you have to apt-get ntfs-3g then put this in your fstab: /dev/hda1       /media/winxp    ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8      0       0
[07:02] <m_billybob> davin: nvm, was thinking you were saying 'ubuntusuck' . . .
[07:02] <enat> add "1280x1024" to modes under depth of 24?
[07:02] <quaal> yellowdart, what does that do for me?
[07:02] <reach> i often support ntfs by recompile the kernel ,then it will work well just by mount the proper ntfs blocks
[07:02] <m_billybob> didnt realize there was a nick in here 'ubuntusucks'
[07:02] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, i'm installing a few packages with synaptic right now i figure configure-debian conflicts with dpkg and apt
[07:02] <quaal> yellowdart, i've read very little about ntfs-3g
[07:02] <LinX>  nah there a  x restat comand
[07:02] <Fedge> flannel: for grub, when you click that little (hd0) button, it ask where you want to install grub. I definitely don't want to install in on the MBR so where else can I specify?
[07:02] <quaal> yellowdart, its the new ntfs support or something right? allows read/write ?
[07:02] <davin> anybody know how to update from firefox <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> in Dapper?
[07:02] <yellowdart> quaal, that gives you read/write on ntfs
[07:03] <davin> (replacing not installing another one in /home)
[07:03] <enat> (i.e. open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your favourite text editor and check to see if near the bottom there's something like what i;
[07:03] <enat> 'm about to paste
[07:03] <jzlP> quaal, yeah ntfs-3g
[07:03] <enat> )
[07:03] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: well PM me here, oor on the other server, let me know how it works
[07:03] <enat> heh
[07:03] <enat>     SubSection     "Display"
[07:03] <enat>         Depth       24
[07:03] <enat>         Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[07:03] <Jordan_U> reach: the NTFS support built into the kernel is not stable ( writing at least )
[07:03] <Akuma_> davin: better than ubuntusucks? so, any chance to get some help now?
[07:03] <jetsaredim> unop: yea - but there must be something in the config that needs to be changed
[07:03] <enat> @ phiqtion
[07:03] <quaal> yellowdart, from what i remember it is still under development and not very stable. i dont think i want to risk writing to it, i dont really need to.
[07:03] <unop> !paste | enat
[07:03] <ubotu> enat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <davin> Akuma_: ?
[07:03] <MindFreak> How do I go about downgrading from BitTornado 0.3.18 to 0.3.17 ( keep uninstalling it, and it never changes versions)
[07:03] <quaal> yellowdart, thanks though
[07:03] <reach> yellodart, why not compiler the kernel ,and let it support the ntfs rw direct?
[07:03] <phiqtion> enat: what command to open that
[07:03] <gerald> sear_yoda, i tried moving my mouse around
[07:03] <enat> :\ it was three lines , i thought it'd be okay ..
[07:03] <quaal> reach, i'm not very comfortable with compiling a kernel at this point.
[07:03] <gerald> when i move it to the far left, i see the cursor on the edge of the 2nd screen
[07:03] <gerald> but i can' tmove it over
[07:03] <joe___> hey im completely new to linux, ive got ubuntu, how do i install themes?>im in theme preferences now, but dont know where to go from there
[07:03] <Flannel> Fedge: is there not a "nowhere" option?
[07:04] <yellowdart> quaal, i havent had any problems using it thus far.. but i understand your concern
[07:04] <reach> :)
[07:04] <Fedge> flannel: no, it's just a simple text field
[07:04] <enat> phiqtion: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:04] <davin> joe___: look on gnome-look.org, download a .tar.gz and drag them into the theme manangement app
[07:04] <Jordan_U> davin: There is a howto @ wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:04] <Akuma_> davin: i changed my nick now - im showing some respect, good? - now, help please..?
[07:04] <phiqtion> enat: thank you
[07:04] <enat> my pleasure
[07:04] <mikejanssen> hmm. how do i get "My Computer" to show up on my desktop?
[07:04] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:04] <davin> Akuma_: ah sorry I didnt know you where that  my apologies
[07:04] <Fedge> flannel: if I leave it blank, it defaults to /dev/
[07:04] <m_billybob> lol
[07:04] <davin> Akuma_: So how can I help you?
[07:04] <joe___> where is the the theme management app located?
[07:04] <enat> anybody know why ssh is asking for this private identity key's passphrase?
[07:04] <A10n> Hi, I installed the recent version of ubuntu and the bootloader now doesn't have my windows partition in the list. How do i correct this problem with minimum risk
[07:04] <enat> it doesn't when using securecrt on windows
[07:05] <quaal> the only way to reload fstab is to restart X right ?
[07:05] <m_billybob> mikejanssen: boot into windows ?
[07:05] <davin> joe___: top menu: System > Administration > Themes
[07:05] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:05] <mikejanssen> no no
[07:05] <davin> sorry
[07:05] <unop> jetsaredim,  from what i can gather from a quick look at the manpage -- dhcpcd is a dhcp client daemon that configures network interfaces itself, i dont see much configuring (outside of dhcpcd) needed really .. but again, i could be wrong
[07:05] <m_billybob> qual: i think you need to restart period
[07:05] <davin> joe___: System - Preferences - Themes
[07:05] <Jordan_U> A10n: Run: sudo update-grub
[07:05] <Akuma_> davin: i tried installing both ubuntu server and now xubuntu on old hardware, and i keep getting a grub error 15 message
[07:05] <quaal> m_billybob, oh.
[07:05] <quaal> hmm
[07:05] <joe___> cool, ty
[07:05] <Flannel> Fedge: do you have a second harddisk?
[07:05] <mikejanssen> theres some 'hidden preferences' application i can do, and i can see trashcan and my computer icons on desktop
[07:05] <davin> Akuma_ you got windows on it?
[07:05] <Pntkl> hey
[07:05] <Fedge> flannel: no, not at the moment
[07:06] <enat> just a line in /etc/network/interfaces @ jetsaredim
[07:06] <jzlP> what's the command to rename a directory?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> Akuma_: Maybe try LILO, it is available as an option frome the server and alternate install CD's
[07:06] <Pntkl> that's a secret
[07:06] <Akuma_> davin: from google i gather its because grub can't find vmlinuz. i checked the path and its fine though. no, the disk is completly empty
[07:06] <davin> Akuma_: give me some info, 1 hdd, size, IDE/SATA etc
[07:06] <Flannel> Fedge: hmm.  I'm sure there's a way.  You could... I suppose, install /dev/null.  No idea if that'll work.
[07:06] <yellowdart> quaal, if you want to do it the other way (mount your ubuntu partition in windows) you can try this: http://fs-driver.org/
[07:06] <A10n> Jordan_U,  Thank you
[07:06] <MindFreak> Anyone have an idea?
[07:06] <unop> jzlP,  mv it -- mv -R oldname newname
[07:06] <Akuma_> davin: 1 hdd, 6 gigs, IDE
[07:06] <enat> (iface $interface inet dhcp)
[07:06] <Fedge> flannel: as long as it doesn't go to the mbr i think i'm safe, so i'll try /dev/null
[07:06] <m_billybob> quaal: i could be wrong, but since here, i run nothing that anyone else NEEDs on linux, and uptimes mean nothing to me, i just restart when in doubt
[07:06] <enat> i.e. iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:06] <Flannel> Fedge: Why are you worried about installing to the MBR?
[07:06] <enat> in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:07] <shatrat> MindFreak, if you installed it in Synaptic you can use the Package -> Force Version menu to change its version
[07:07] <Akuma_> Jordan_U: that'd be interedting. somehow i didn't see it as an option though, much have missed it.
[07:07] <davin> Akuma_: So hows your partition setup? I recommend you choose the 'default partition layout' (/ and /swap)
[07:07] <Fedge> flannel: i'm trying to dual boot with vista, and i've tried everything else =\
[07:07] <jzlP> unop, its within my /media/ directory (a shared ntfs-3g mount).. does that matter
[07:07] <mikejanssen> i just tri-booted last night
[07:07] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:07] <Lord> is there a way to boot ubuntu from the winxp bootloader? i reallllly want to keep it if i can.
[07:07] <enat> anybody know why ssh is asking for this private identity key's passphrase?
[07:07] <enat> :/
[07:07] <enat> plz?
[07:07] <Flannel> Lord: no.  But grub can boot to windows just fine.
[07:07] <enat> it doesn't when using securecrt on windows
[07:07] <aalhamad> im trying to configure my wireless conection .. or my wirelss card. how cani know that its working ...
[07:07] <enat> lol
[07:07] <joe___> odd,  it says its detected the theme, and now i can use it, but its not on the install list?
[07:07] <shatrat> Lord, why bother.
[07:07] <unop> jzlP,  in that case - mv -R /media/oldname /media/newname
[07:08] <Akuma_> davin: i chose the erase entire disk option (the non-lvm one)
[07:08] <aalhamad> as i tried to search in the device manager i cna;t find it..
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Lord: Yes but it is still very Beta
[07:08] <Flannel> Fedge: Is grub not able to boot vista?
[07:08] <aalhamad> plz if somebody can help me
[07:08] <Fedge> flannel: no, i've tried a few times and each time it's corrupted the vista install
[07:08] <davin> Akuma_: then it should work, youre using Edgy or Dapper?
[07:08] <shatrat> !wireless|aalhamad
[07:08] <ubotu> aalhamad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:08] <Akuma_> davin: edgy
[07:08] <MindFreak> shatrat, I have uninstalled it and reinstalled 1000x, but it still shows as .18, I will try your method
[07:08] <aalhamad> thanks
[07:08] <Akuma_> davin: the path to vmlinuz in menu.lst is fine, too
[07:08] <davin> Akuma_: Hmm I myself am on Dapper because Edgy cant recognise 5 of my mice
[07:09] <Flannel> Fedge: interesting.  Vista... shouldn't have anything important in the MBR (well, except it's bootloader), how... very odd.  What a dumb thing.
[07:09] <unop> enat,  just a guess -- maybe ssh doesnt talk this fancy thing securecrt uses
[07:09] <davin> Akuma_: hold on
[07:09] <shatrat> MindFreak, well if you uninstall and reinstall of course it will install the same version
[07:09] <zen2> Hi
[07:09] <MindFreak> but the REPO shows it as .15 but when I open it, it says .18
[07:09] <aalhamad> plus plzz how can i know my speed of connection ?
[07:09] <Fedge> flannel: Yeah, all the reading i've done comes to the same conclusion.  Vista is just a pain...
[07:09] <jzlP> unop,  "mv: invalid option -- R
[07:09] <jzlP> "
[07:09] <aalhamad> i mean is it 1mb or .5 mb?
[07:09] <enat> maybe, but you'd expect one to ask for the pass if the other does
[07:09] <enat> or vice versa
[07:09] <MindFreak> shatrat, but the REPO shows it as .15 but when I open it, it says .18
[07:10] <Flannel> Fedge: well, yeah, /dev/null should work.  unless the installer checks something.
[07:10] <unop> jzlP,  hmm -- try without the -R then
[07:10] <jzlP> ok
[07:10] <davin> Akuma_: go to pastecode.com and paste the outcome of 'sudo fdisk -l' and send me the link
[07:10] <Fedge> flannel: yeah, the install should be done soon, i'll let you know how it works
[07:10] <shatrat> MindFreak, just try the Package / force version menu, you can change it to anything available.
[07:10] <Lord> shatrat, Jordan_U : my lappy (presario v6000) has "quickplay" which is really windows xp embeded, and the one-button boot will not work with grub. you have to select it from the grub menu, like any other os
[07:10] <Akuma_> davin: i can't even get to the command line though...
[07:10] <Flannel> Fedge: thanks, please follow up.  I'm sure we'll get that question a lot soon. (and I've never used the liveCD, heh)
[07:10] <jzlP> unop, can I PM you?
[07:10] <zen2> How can get the new source list
[07:10] <MindFreak> ok.
[07:10] <Fedge> flannel: i'll keep you posted
[07:10] <davin> Akuma_: Use a LiveCD
[07:11] <unop> jzlP,  you could, i dunno if you'll get a reply -- in any case, its better to ask it in here, others could help
[07:11] <m_billybob> ah XP embedded
[07:11] <shatrat> Lord, you could pu tgrub on a floppy or usb stick or something and use that when you want to boot linux I guess.
[07:11] <n2diy_> ! sources | zen2
[07:11] <ubotu> zen2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:11] <zen2> apt-get install kile dnt works
[07:11] <Akuma_> davin: wait up
[07:11] <MindFreak> shatrat, just tried it, and it still shows BitTorrent 0.3.18, after I force version to the only one available in edgy 0.3.15
[07:11] <davin> Akuma_: sure thing
[07:12] <shatrat> MindFreak, did you apply and everything?
[07:12] <Flannel> Lord: the other solution is to have (assuming you have multiple HDDs) one bootloader per drive (on the MBR of each drive), and then you select by changing your BIOS.
[07:12] <unop> jzlP, does this not work? mv /media/oldname /media/newname
[07:12] <Erealz> hey can some one tell me how I can get totem and mplayer to play avi .wma files
[07:12] <Flannel> Lord: that is, the other solution to a boot floppy/CD
[07:12] <MindFreak> shatrat, I reinstalled it with FORCE VERSION, is their a cache anywhere... it is really annoying me, I havent had an issue like this ever...
[07:12] <shatrat> Flannel, how many laptops have multiple harddrives?
[07:12] <Flannel> shatrat: More than zero
[07:12] <unop> Erealz,  install the w32codecs package
[07:12] <shatrat> Flannel, that might still be less than 1
[07:12] <Erealz> unop using synaptic?
[07:12] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: check PM on other server
[07:12] <zen2> ./configure kile has a error "No X include"
[07:13] <n2diy_> oh no, zero wars?
[07:13] <unop> Erealz,  whatever you are comfortable with :)
[07:13] <Flannel> shatrat: Nah, I know of a least a few that do.  So, I figured I'd throw it out there.
[07:13] <jzlP> unop, ok.. here is the isssue.  I installed ntfs-config and it automatically created the directories to mount the 2 NTFS drives.  they were named "Media 1" and "Media 2" in the windows 2003 install.  Well ntfs-config created the directories with the space in there and now I am trying to share them via samba...
[07:13] <shatrat> MindFreak, well if you cant use force version to choose the version you want, maybe it isnt available, or maybe there is something specific to that program that makes the versioning confusing
[07:14] <MindFreak> shatrat, it is really ridiculous...
[07:14] <jzlP> unop, ... and now having a fun time deciding if I need to share them as "Media\0401", "Media 1" or "media1"
[07:14] <unop> jzlP,  ahh, better to avoid spaces -- but i have a feeling this is more than just a simple issue of renaming the folders -- you probably need to edit the /etc/fstab file too
[07:14] <Lord> shatrat, Flannel : it sounds easier to just select it from the grub menu =)
[07:14] <Erealz> I just did you serch unop in synaptic bro and it didn't find any?
[07:14] <Lord> jordan_U: what about this very beta method?
[07:14] <jzlP> unop, exactly.... that is what I am trying to do
[07:14] <Jordan_U_> Erealz: You need to enable multiverse
[07:15] <unop> !seveas | Erealz
[07:15] <ubotu> Erealz: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:15] <Flannel> Lord: you can always have that be the "default" boot, with a timeout of 1s or something, so that by default (when youre doing your quickboot... lid closed, whatever thing), it boots to that.
[07:15] <Flannel> Lord: default boot in grub, that is.
[07:15] <unop> jzlP,  you should be able to share them as "media 1" ..
[07:15] <shatrat> Lord, Sounds easier to boot linux and use mplayer.  That way you dont have to worry about getting r00ted by some south korean botnet while watching The Waterboy
[07:15] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, haha, unfortunately i'm at a friends' house
[07:15] <Akuma_> davin: it says "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[07:15] <TravisivarT> sorry :-/
[07:16] <unop> jzlP,  i gotta go, will be back in about 10 minutes -- the others in here will be able to help
[07:16] <Jordan_U_> Lord: It installs grub to the boot.ini and Ubuntu to a .iso file on your NTFS partition, so no repartitioning required, and it is NOT virtualised, it is a true dual boot
[07:16] <jzlP> unop, even with the NTFS name being "Media 1" and the directory in /media?
[07:16] <davin> Akuma_: While booting up?
[07:16] <jzlP> unop, thanks for trying :)
[07:17] <Akuma_> davin: i put the cd in and chose "recover a broken system", then found a shell
[07:17] <unop> jzlP,  ahh, quick suggestion -- you could create a "spaceless" directory in /media that is a link to "Media 1" and share that .. so you dont have to go through this hassle :)
[07:17] <A10n> Jordan_U, About my grub problem, update-grub doesn't find my windows parition. I think that the Ubuntu installation might have over written my MBR
[07:17] <Lord> Flannel, theres a button on the lappy that when pressed boots quickplay, very fast abd no other user input. press a button, pop in a dvd and watch
[07:17] <phiqtion> i need help adding 1280 to my X11 configuration!! please
[07:17] <tracy> hey im trying to get gedit to run, any tips? this is what im getting:
[07:17] <davin> Akuma_: ok, now type 'sudo fdisk -l'
[07:17] <unop> jzlP,  sudo ln -s "/media/Media 1" /media/media1  ... for example
[07:17] <tracy> cannot open display:
[07:17] <tracy> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[07:18] <jason__> Are you running from the GUI or from the terminal tracy?
[07:18] <lan56> hello; I am trying to install xubuntu, and when I run ntfsresize off of the livecd to try and partition to have a dual boot computer, ntfsresize crashes and aborts with the error message "*** glibc detected *** double free or corrupted"
[07:18] <Akuma_> davin: yeah it says "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[07:18] <tracy> terminal, jason__
[07:18] <phiqtion> i need help adding 1280 to my X11 configuration!! please
[07:18] <jason__> Do you have a GUI running, or are you only in the terminal?
[07:18] <Lord> shatrat, lol...fortunately quickplay it totally clueless of the network hardware....in fact, windows xp pro can't even assign a drive letter to the partition....so i'm confident its safe.
[07:18] <tracy> imnot sure about a gui, how do i find out?
[07:18] <Lord> Jordan_U_, where can i learn more?
[07:19] <davin> Akuma_: You sure your HDD jumper is set to Master?
[07:19] <aalhamad> hi all i've check the wiki but still my wirelss card is not reconized
[07:19] <Flannel> Lord: Just... don't think that means your quickplay is safe (although, its probably firmware on a separate thing somewhere), Linux can do a lot of stuff XP can't do.  Because Linux assumes the user knows what theyre doing.
[07:20] <Akuma_> davin: yeah, sure
[07:20] <jason__> Well can you use your mouse at all tracy?
[07:20] <Akuma_> davin: it also appears as master in the bios
[07:20] <davin> Akuma_: Then I have no idea :/ Sorry
[07:20] <tracy> yes, jason__
[07:20] <davin> Akuma_: wait
[07:20] <aliasgherman> Is there any utility that can supply the clients with network boot + KDE Desktop
[07:20] <Fedge> flannel: well, grub didn't like /dev/null
[07:20] <davin> Akuma_: type 'grub', do you get a GRUB> prompt?
[07:21] <jason__> Ok, well normally to run gedit try typing
[07:21] <csg> excuse who can help me configuring my wireless netgear card please
[07:21] <jason__> "sudo gedit" in the terminal
[07:21] <aliasgherman> Oh Please, Is there any utility that can supply the clients with network boot + KDE Desktop
[07:21] <Akuma_> davin: i get "error opening terminal: bterm"
[07:21] <jason__> That will run gedit with super user priverlages so be careful what you edit
[07:21] <davin> Akuma: I think your CD is damaged
[07:22] <Lord> Flannel, i just think that it is a cool feature to have and i'd like to keep it in place as much as i can. the first version of quickplay actually was linux...too bad hp want to the dark side with winxp embedded...
[07:22] <vh18> can anyone point me to an walkthrough of installing ubuntu on my windows machine?
[07:22] <tracy> jason__, this is what ive typed:
[07:22] <tracy> sudo gedit /usr/bin/runLime.sh
[07:22] <Akuma_> davin: i checked the image it was fine. plus i tried with two cds, ubuntu server and xubuntu
[07:22] <tracy> and i got the error
[07:22] <tracy> cannot open display:
[07:22] <tracy> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[07:22] <davin> Akuma_: Sorry I cant imagine anything wrong =[
[07:23] <Akuma_> davin: its ok then. thanks for you help, i apreciate
[07:23] <m_billybob> tracy: are you in X, if so, are you running th command as sudo or root ?
[07:23] <csg> excuse who can help me configuring my wireless netgear card please
[07:23] <shatrat> vh18, http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-desktop-installation-with-screenshots.html
[07:23] <davin> whoops
[07:23] <phiqtion> i need help adding 1280 to my X11 configuration!! please
[07:23] <vh18> cool, thanks
[07:23] <davin> Akuma_: Glad to help
[07:23] <TravisivarT> hey, i just tried nexuiz and the graphics were all distorted, i've got an NVIDIA 8800gtx with the latest NVIDIA drivers
[07:23] <jason__> I'm not sure why you're getting that erorr tracy
[07:23] <tracy> m_billybob, ive ran as root and sudo, and im assuming i am in X
[07:23] <jason__> As a temporary alternative you can try using nano
[07:24] <shatrat> TravisivarT, you have the 9746 drivers?
[07:24] <m_billybob> tracy: pretty colored screen or black and grey terminal ?
[07:24] <TravisivarT> shatrat: yes
[07:24] <jason__> sudo nano /user/bin/runLime.sh
[07:24] <tracy> pretty screen
[07:24] <shatrat> TravisivarT, you  might want to check the nvnews.net linux foren, I doubt there are too many 8800s in this channel yet.
[07:24] <m_billybob> as jason said there try nano instead
[07:24] <tracy> jason__, whatever that was brought me to something
[07:25] <tracy> im not sure what to do with it though
[07:25] <jason__> Well you should be in a text editor that sits inside of the terminal
[07:25] <TravisivarT> shatrat: well the changelog mentioned that 8800gtx support had JUST been added in this version, so is it possible that the support is just shaky?
[07:25] <jason__> You can use that to edit that file as well.
[07:25] <tracy> yeah i think thats it
[07:25] <jason__> nano is a text-based text editor, lol
[07:25] <tracy> lol
[07:26] <shatrat> TravisivarT, quite possible.  You might find a workaround though, disable something or other in your nvidia settings and it works, that sort of thing
[07:26] <tracy> thanks for the help, im gonna try and work with this now
[07:27] <shatrat> TravisivarT, if you can reproduce it though, the nvidia devs are very good about checking into these sorts of things if you can put up the information the need for a bug report
[07:27] <jason__> No prob Tracy, good luck.
[07:27] <tracy> hm ok so im looking at the options in the text editor, how do i .. make one work. (i know that sounds incredibly stupid)
[07:27] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: you have to realize something, Windows support  right_now for the 8800 series card is rather lacking so . . .
[07:27] <tracy> i typed the letter of the option, hit enter and it just went to a new line
[07:28] <m_billybob> Linux definately isnt goign to be better
[07:28] <Flannel> Fedge: Hmm.  I don't know.  I'm googling like nobodys business though ;)  You might have to go alternate CD, I guess.
[07:28] <Jordan_U__> Fedge: What's the question?