[16:41] <psycho> momken, dell xps is good serie of laptops but i dont know if you can order it
[16:42] <psycho> as i remember, you can switch off nvidia gpu and use intels gpu
[16:48] <okieiam> no if your gpu is optimus
[16:50] <momken> psycho, dell 15 with 2kg? yes it is amazing but I guess it is expensive here.
[16:50] <momken> Asus N series is a good balance b/w price and performance
[16:50] <okieiam> sorry i mean not in reverse, mine is 940M and Hd 5500 so noway to off hd 5500
[16:50] <momken> but is heavy with 2.7kg
[16:52] <psycho> momken, if you like asus n series, you need to buy it )
[16:52] <momken> okieiam, optimus is a tech for auto switching gpu. right? I remember there was a problem with it in linux from previous days
[16:52] <momken> psycho, yeah. I more like asus g series, but it is expensive.
[16:53] <momken> okieiam, so what happens in default ubuntu 16.04 (no drivers installed) on your laptop? please answer me
[16:53] <okieiam> yes I have to use new canonical ported driver for 16,04
[16:54] <momken> okieiam, "canonical ported driver"? you mean nvidia's proprietary driver?
[16:54] <okieiam> if you let the system auto detcted and install the driver, it will break x
[16:55] <Kartagis> !find avconv
[16:55] <okieiam> right but there is new ppa for it
[16:55] <momken> okieiam, what if I don't install any driver at all?
[16:55] <okieiam> default driver is i915
[16:55] <ioria>  !info libav-tools | Kartagis
[16:55] <momken> okieiam, would it work? and whether works on nvidia or intel?
[16:56] <okieiam> it will work with intel only
[16:57] <Guest20361> Hi, how was the issue fixed in Ubuntu 12.04 with some external disks not beeing able to mount ?
[16:57] <momken> okieiam, hmmm. thanks. intel is enough for me, but then I have wasted my money on nvidia GPU :))
[16:57] <momken> okieiam, just last question: will the intel graphic detect all hdmi/vga ports?
[16:58] <okieiam> look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1559576
[16:59] <momken> okieiam, hmmm. So in my case the gpu will be bypassed at all (because I don't want to install a driver, because my OS is on external USB3.0 SSD)
[17:01] <Guest20361> Hmm, i am not able to find Ubuntu 12.04 on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?
[17:01] <okieiam> you can try this https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:01] <momken> okieiam, ok, thank you very much
[17:02] <okieiam> nvidia-361 work for me
[17:04] <vahe> hi all
[17:04] <okieiam> If you face back screen boot, then restart to recovery console:
[17:04] <psycho> hi
[17:04] <okieiam> mount -o remount,rw /
[17:05] <okieiam> prime-select intel
[17:05] <vahe> how not to include xorg? ubuntu ,what would work as the server
[17:05] <okieiam>  apt-get purge nvidia*
[17:05] <psycho> vahe, try ubuntu-netinstall
[17:05] <okieiam> you will revert back to intel
[17:05] <whiterabbit> Good evening people.
[17:06] <psycho> vahe, it will install ubuntu without xorgand without DE WM
[17:06] <vahe> psycho: to reinstall the OS?
[17:06] <joe_____> hi
[17:06] <whiterabbit> It's my first time on freenode and your channel.
[17:06] <Guest20361> good evening, whiterabbit ..
[17:06] <whiterabbit> I have a 16years exp of linux.
[17:06] <whiterabbit> Nice to meet you all.I want to learn from the best.
[17:07] <joe_____> is the hibernate issue solved in ubuntu 16.04?
[17:07] <whiterabbit> Thanks buddy.
[17:07] <psycho> vahe, you can remove DE and Xorg
[17:07] <vahe> psycho: no no I know that ,I need to stop ubuntu unity desktop
[17:07] <BogDrakonov> hey. I have a LUKS volume (not /) that keeps unmounting randomly
[17:07] <BogDrakonov> How can I fix that. It locks on its own and thus becomes unmounted
[17:08] <ni291187> I need help to help a friend share video and audio from a laptop and hits TV through HDMI
[17:08] <vahe> psycho: I have a minipc which only works in ubuntu unity
[17:08] <vahe> minipc
[17:08] <ni291187> Nick /sburwood1
[17:09] <psycho> vahe, you can just choose to not start DE
[17:09] <whiterabbit> My apologies i was lagging.
[17:09] <joe_____> is the dell precision m6600 hibernate issue fixed in ubuntu 16.04???????????????????
[17:09] <vahe> psycho: thanks, tell me how?
[17:10] <whiterabbit> Nice meeting you all you guys.Thanks for welcoming me.
[17:10] <whiterabbit> I support canonical w/ purchases wearables etc.I am from Greece.
[17:10] <psycho> vahe, one moment, need to remember how to do it )
[17:10] <whiterabbit> I really love ubuntu.
[17:10] <vahe> psycho:  ok thanks i wait
[17:11] <joe_____> whiterabbit....is the dell precision m6600 hibernate issue fixed in ubuntu 16.04?
[17:11] <whiterabbit> Tbh i have no clue.
[17:11] <whiterabbit> I haven't owned many laptops in my life.
[17:11] <joe_____> sicce you say you have 15 years of expeerience
[17:11] <Guest20361> whiterabbit: I would like to support Canonical with 1 (one) Dollar for supporting eol-distros...
[17:12] <whiterabbit> Yes but i never was a tester really.I am more programmer semi mastering linux and tech support.
[17:12] <whiterabbit> joe_____: you mean the 16.04 LTS?
[17:12] <joe_____> and what does tech support do?...rebuild clu from tron?
[17:13] <whiterabbit> Why don't you give it a try?
[17:13] <joe_____> yes that is the one
[17:13] <joe_____> i was hoping that others tried
[17:13] <whiterabbit> joe_____: noone knows everything.I should test the laptop.You just need to be in mood.
[17:13] <whiterabbit> i never had a laptop other than an acer aspire 5920g and a thinkpad edge e325.
[17:13] <joe_____> how do i enable the hibernate feature
[17:14] <joe_____> ?
[17:14] <whiterabbit> thinkpad edge e325 btw is ubuntu certified as i read.
[17:14] <joe_____> so the dell m6600....and hibernation seems not to work...officially
[17:14] <whiterabbit> hmm
[17:14] <whiterabbit> have you tried to google it?
[17:14] <psycho> vahe, i cant find this on my notes, cant google it because have only ftp and irc here on this pc, maybe somebody can help here
[17:15] <whiterabbit> let me check
[17:15] <psycho> guys how to disable DE in ubuntu
[17:15] <whiterabbit> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1775322.html
[17:16] <whiterabbit> check this out it's the best fit i could find.
[17:16] <vahe> psycho: thanks anyway friend
[17:16] <whiterabbit> but it seems the threaed is for previous releases.
[17:16] <psycho> whiterabbit thanks for helping
[17:16] <whiterabbit> damn
[17:17] <whiterabbit> yaw i am sorry i couldn't be much of a help.
[17:18] <whiterabbit> If you don't seem to find more threads about this issue.Maybe it's not something they are facing it many.
[17:18] <whiterabbit> What laptop is this?
[17:21] <l9> bekks: looks like you where right about the kernel error, rebooted and it came back as it should... thanks
[17:22] <joe_____> i hope i won't be needed to use windows
[17:23] <joe_____> quadro cards should work fine in ubuntu with full support for opengl too
[17:23] <Guest20361> How do i check how a specific problem was solved in 12.04 ?
[17:23] <joe_____> teoreticaly
[17:23] <ash_workz> where would be a good place to ask what this symbol is? http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/16b53/pahawh_hmong_digit_three.png
[17:23] <OerHeks> Guest20361, find the bugreport
[17:24] <joe_____> google..."specific problem"...bug
[17:24] <joe_____> that usually works for me
[17:24] <OerHeks> !google
[17:24] <jatt> ash_workz: http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U16B00.pdf
[17:24] <joe_____> nope...not "google it"
[17:25] <joe_____> i did not said "google it"
[17:25] <OerHeks> i don't think launchpad is indexed completely by google.
[17:25] <joe_____> i said exactly what you should type there
[17:26] <joe_____> only a mo ron would say "google it"
[17:26] <ash_workz> jatt: okay, so I don't know wtf this means, because there's a symbol that stands in place of the character on fileformat.info which is actually what I'm after
[17:26] <browndawg> Hi. I have a noob sysadmin question.  Sticking it in ~/.bashrc seems like the worst idea in history.
[17:26] <browndawg> or typing them out on the shell
[17:27] <ash_workz> jatt: I guess it doesn't come up if your computer supports it, I thought the png would show but :: shrug :: must be a server generated image
[17:28] <ash_workz> jatt: maybe this shows up?: http://i.imgur.com/jj18NPC.png
[17:29] <jatt> you see the symbol in the pdf
[17:30] <jatt> it's an m-like thingie
[17:30] <gosu_> exit
[17:32] <OerHeks> unicode-table.com/en/16B53/
[17:33] <OerHeks> i just used bing with the name pahawh hmong digit three
[17:33] <joe_____> the one with specific bug solving...you still there?
[17:34] <ivantumacay> hello
[17:34] <ivantumacay> hello?
[17:34] <joe_____> hello
[17:34] <Nearoo> Hi
[17:34] <ivantumacay> hey joe
[17:34] <joe_____> ok
[17:34] <Nearoo> ....I'm having trouble with my soundcard. My pulseaudio daemon won't start...
[17:35] <ivantumacay> what's up guys haha
[17:35] <joe_____> this is the irc channel that has some solutions
[17:35] <ivantumacay> what do you mean
[17:35] <joe_____> #ubuntu-bug
[17:35] <ivantumacay> haha
[17:35] <ivantumacay> where are you from dude
[17:36] <joe_____> there you can ask if a specific bug has been solved
[17:36] <Nearoo> ... you are not talking to me, are you? ;)
[17:36] <joe_____> is this a dating channel or hope-to-solve things channel?
[17:36] <OerHeks> !ot
[17:37] <joe_____> yeah ubottu i was sarcastic
[17:37] <joe_____> oo...i got slammed...by a bot
[17:37] <joe_____> :))))
[17:37] <Nearoo> anyways, someone mind helping me? :)
[17:37] <OerHeks> joe_____, please stop.
[17:37] <joe_____> what is the problem?
[17:38] <joe_____> nearoo?
[17:38] <Nearoo> My pulseaudio daemon won't start.
[17:38] <Nearoo> "Daemon startup failed".
[17:38] <OerHeks> good start to see what is going on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:38] <Nearoo> I don't have any sound on my system.
[17:38] <jemadux> how to make hexchat indicator working ?
[17:38] <joe_____> did it ever start?..with current sound card?
[17:39] <Nearoo> yes, I think it did, about a week ago.
[17:39] <Nearoo> Sound cards etc are listed, but pulsaudio can't start.
[17:39] <Nearoo> I already deleted .config/pulse
[17:40] <Nearoo> and ~/.pulseaudio doesn't exists on my computer, I've read I should delete that too...
[17:40] <joe_____> 0erheks...it seems you are a boss around here...answer this...did the hibernate issue for dell precision m6600 is been solved for ubuntu 16.04?
[17:40] <OerHeks> jemadux, you might need to install hexchat-Indicator manually? its not enabled here by default
[17:40] <joe_____> then i will hapily leave the channel
[17:40] <jemadux> OerHeks: thanks
[17:41] <joe_____> nearoo...some cards do not work with pulse audio
[17:41] <joe_____> remove it from software center
[17:42] <Mathisen> does tails work to install in 16.04 ?
[17:42] <Nearoo> hmmm, but it did work.... I will do that if nothing else works. Any recommondation for an alternative? (is there any?
[17:42] <Nearoo> )
[17:42] <OerHeks> seems not, this one got a tag about bios outdated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302
[17:42] <joe_____> or synaptic if you allready have it installed
[17:42] <Nearoo> ok, thx
[17:42] <Nearoo> I will also look through the SoundTrobleshootingprodecude of OerHeks, I didn't try that yet.
[17:42] <joe_____> and then install jack...with every plugin it has under info....if using software center
[17:43] <Nearoo> kk
[17:43] <Nearoo> thx, bye
[17:44] <joe_____> that is good too....but if it doesnt work ...remove pulse audio...alsa things...and install jaack with it's things and plugins
[17:44] <cschneid_> I'm trying to get a setup of 10.04 in a VM to test some stuff against an older version. I'm having a hard time getting apt sources to work. Is there a guide / listing of working sources? I know it's out of maintenance now, but I need to try some stuff against an older GCC & surrounding libs
[17:44] <OerHeks> cschneid_, 10.04 is dead. EOL
[17:45] <joe_____> you will....at first probably have only basic things like playback only
[17:45] <joe_____> give it a few weeks...and you will have most of devices the sound card has
[17:46] <joe_____> that happened with my creative soundblaster live 24 bit external
[17:46] <cschneid_> OerHeks: I'm aware. I'm not trying to stand up a new system. I'm working on some C code that needs to compile on systems that are that old, and exist.  Stop telling me to upgrade. They don't belong to me, or my company. I just want to confirm that the code I wrote compiles on them.
[17:47] <joe_____> 0erHeks...are you going to pay for the computers needed for the upgrade?..
[17:48] <OerHeks> no o, you can use the repositories, usually meant to upgrade, but for your goal it is oke
[17:48] <joe_____> this is why i hate the current status of linux comunity
[17:48] <tgm4883> cschneid_: I'm not. If you read the link, you'll see how to use the repos
[17:48] <tgm4883> joe_____: why?
[17:48] <OerHeks> but it is 1 server ;-)
[17:48] <dax> cschneid_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replace the contents with the content of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list , replacing CODENAME with lucid
[17:49] <cschneid_> tgm4883: thanks. That wasn't clear :)
[17:49] <cschneid_> I've just been yelled at repeatedly for trying to setup old systems, across several communities. :-/
[17:49] <joe_____> cshneid...something of this nature happened to me when the devs decided to change the "wlan0" to wls1
[17:50] <joe_____> and for 2 months i didnt have wireles
[17:50] <tgm4883> cschneid_: TBF, someone should make a call to stop supporting old unsupported releases, but IDK your business
[17:50] <ash_workz> jatt: no, the pdf shows legit symbols; I'm looking for like a placeholder symbol or something
[17:50] <joe_____> beaccaause of "eol" and "upgrades"
[17:50] <OerHeks> development uses them too, to track regressions.
[17:50] <cschneid_> yeah, I'm writing a tiny piece of an app that customers use. I am not encouraging people to stand up new systems, but I'm also in a spot where I can force people to upgrade
[17:51] <ioria> cschneid_, you can also try a debootstap and schroot , idk if it works with lucid
[17:51] <tgm4883> cschneid_: I know, I'm just saying that someone should be making that call, and it sounds like in your company that isn't happening
[17:51] <OerHeks> heartbleed, oh my
[17:52] <ash_workz> jatt: for example, you know how you might see a box with 4 numbers in it representing "a unicode character with the following code should be displayed here, but instead you're getting *this box symbol* " — well what if you wanted to display a *this box symbol* to people?
[17:52] <cschneid_> we're distributing this to 3rd parties. Our systems are running LTS supported versions of ubuntu.
[17:52] <joe_____> cshneid...what are the configs of the pc's...generaly?
[17:52] <joe_____> like cpu ram...hdd?
[17:52] <joe_____> in the company?
[17:52] <tgm4883> cschneid_: I fully understand, you're clients are running super old versions of Ubuntu. I'm saying someone should say they are no longer supported
[17:53] <cschneid_> tgm4883: I know, I push back every time. But it's currently decided it's worth the money to support them
[17:53] <joe_____> but he can develop the app on the same version as his costumers...couldn't he?
[17:53] <tgm4883> cschneid_: yep, that's usually the case when this happens
[17:53] <razor1101> You should try saying that to XP users
[17:53] <tgm4883> joe_____: yes?
[17:53] <mass> ubuntu touch
[17:54] <mass> there
[17:54] <dax> mass: #ubuntu-touch if you're looking for its channel
[17:54] <cschneid_> hmm? We're a mac shop, writing plugins for ruby on rails - this plugin needs a C extension. So now I have to care a lot more about the environment is all.
[17:54] <cschneid_> Thanks for the help
[17:54] <mass> thanx
[17:55] <mass> thanks
[17:55] <joe_____> then if you get the amount of money he is happy with he has to do that
[17:55] <joe_____> if he is getting
[17:55] <joe_____> the same problem is with the ms os'es
[17:56] <joe_____> you cantt ask a dos prog to run on win 10
[17:56] <joe_____> and ms to help you do that
[17:56] <tgm4883> joe_____: I'm not sure why we're discussing this anymore. He's got the answer he was looking for.
[17:56] <joe_____> oh ok
[17:58] <bones7> hi guys. can you please help? i use xubuntu 16.04 on a samsung ativ book 7 and sometimes the screen resolution kind of "resets" - it changes to a higher resolution (not sharp), i can get the screen down and up with the mouse curser. Why does it happen? Any idea? In between: my ativ book got 2 graphic cards, an onboard and a AMD HD8570M. i had the same problem with xubuntu 14.04 before.
[17:59] <joe_____> what video card do you have?
[17:59] <bones7> AMD HD8570M
[18:00] <joe_____> are you using the proprietary drivers?
[18:00] <joe_____> for the card?
[18:00] <OerHeks> oh, that HD8570 will be supported by the Radeon open driver only in 16.04
[18:00] <OerHeks> not even the AMDgpu :-(
[18:01] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[18:01] <joe_____> he doesnt states what driver is using
[18:01] <OerHeks> i think you need to disable one of them in your bios
[18:01] <bones7> just a sec
[18:01] <OerHeks> he uses the radeon now.
[18:02] <mass> i wont help channel for debian
[18:02] <DJones> mass: That would #debian
[18:02] <mass> the ##debian its unoffical
[18:03] <mass> DJones: #debian its unofical
[18:03] <OerHeks> to show what driver in use:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[18:04] <bones7> it should be the open source driver:
[18:04] <bones7> xubu@Xubu:~$ glxinfo | grep 'OpenGL version string'  >> OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
[18:04] <OerHeks> mass, you need to be registered with #freenode to join #debian.
[18:04] <CodeMouse92> Any recommendations for an app to record audio directly off the "speakers" (sound card, or 'stereo mix' as Windows called it)?
[18:05] <CodeMouse92> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS x64
[18:05] <joe_____> bones7 is yyou use the open source driver try using the prorietary one if available
[18:05] <wasq> Hi. I am unable to automatically execute a script at startup for some reason. The script works fine and I've added it to 'application autostart' in 'session and startup' but it doesn't execute at startup for some reason. Can someone help? The path is fine. (ubuntu 14.04,xfce)
[18:05] <joe_____> if you use...cr ap with this keyboard
[18:06] <bones7> ok, thank you!
[18:06] <OerHeks> lolz, joe_____ read the info, there is no closed prop driver for ATI/AMD in 16.04.
[18:06] <joe_____> you enable the driver from "additional drivers"
[18:06] <OerHeks> even the amd site gives the AMDgpu beta driver
[18:06] <joe_____> realy?
[18:06] <OerHeks> not joking here
[18:06] <joe_____> then why windows work and linux don't?
[18:07] <joe_____> something deefinitely happens
[18:07] <bones7> i report
[18:07] <tgm4883> joe_____: huh?
[18:08] <joe_____> bones7 when the resolution goes haywire?...is it when you watch movies in full screen?
[18:08] <joe_____> or when randomly?
[18:09] <joe_____> or randomly?
[18:10] <joe_____> beacause my radeon 5650 did that when i switched to a resoultion beyond the drivers "capaablities"
[18:10] <joe_____> or when the aplication did that anyway
[18:12] <joe_____> no one answwered my question anyhow
[18:12] <joe_____> bbye people....take care
[18:16] <Sina_Maleki> Hi all
[18:16] <david__> hi!
[18:18] <Sina_Maleki> We are going to install openstack via autopilot of ubuntu on 8 hp servers , so which cisco switch model do you offer ?
[18:20] <dandels> Sina_Maleki, you'll probably have more luck on ##networking
[18:20] <dandels> There might be other channels but I don't know them
[18:28] <Qpex> exit
[18:28] <Qpex> exit
[18:30] <Vacuum_> does Kubuntu and ubuntu supports touch devices like touch laptops and tabs?
[18:31] <OerHeks> most touch panels yes.
[18:31] <Vacuum_> OerHeks: 'touch panels'?
[18:32] <OerHeks> well, a laptop got a lcd panel, most of them work OOTB
[18:32] <Guest64126> getting a very annoying error when attempting to save partition table w) using fdisk
[18:32] <OerHeks> what you mean with tabs i am not sure
[18:32] <Vacuum_> OerHeks:  latest dell has a laptop that is converted to tab but ignore that as its a laptop in any way
[18:33] <Guest64126> The partition table has been altered!  Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Syncing disks.
[18:33] <Vacuum_> OerHeks:  so the LTS will work with thsoe laptops?
[18:33] <OerHeks> try it with live-usb ?
[18:33] <Guest64126> What possible can this be?
[18:34] <OerHeks> Guest64126, some bios versions can protect the mbr, or that disk is part of raid, or uses gpt ..
[18:35] <EriC^^> Guest64126, try sudo partprobe
[18:36] <EriC^^> the kernel needs to reread the new partition table, or you can reboot
[18:36] <domargan> Hi guys, is this a known bug? My terminals completely freeze after I type "cd ~" + TAB on Ubuntu 14.04. Tried with zsh and bash, on GNOME terminal, Guake, and Terminator.  I tried googling but no results.
[18:37] <kulelu88> Hello
[18:37] <EriC^^> hi
[18:37] <kulelu88> I am looking for this plugin: libpeas-1.0-0-python2loader . I cannot find it in software centre or via apt-get install
[18:40] <OerHeks> it is part of libpaes 1.16.0
[18:40] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas
[18:41] <Guest64126> OerHeks disk is part of raid
[18:42] <oldmanyoung> hi first time
[18:42] <kulelu88> OerHeks: I am on ubuntu 14.04 and it doesn't look like I have that version of libpeas. How do I get python2loader?
[18:42] <oldmanyoung> i'm on Mate, it's pretty nice.
[18:43] <OerHeks> kulelu88, it does, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas/1.8.1-2ubuntu2 but not that package.
[18:43] <OerHeks> don't know how to get it, else by building yourself?
[18:43] <OerHeks> or upgrade
[18:44] <kulelu88> OerHeks: why does libpeas-python2loader not exist in the repos though?
[18:44] <WhiteWabbit> us navy pays to keep windows xp up to date.
[18:44] <kulelu88> it is breaking functionality in my gedit desktop app
[18:44] <WhiteWabbit> how pathetic that might be
[18:45] <WhiteWabbit> someone get bill gates daughter gf and must be a geek so he'll be pissed off.haha.
[18:46] <OerHeks> why should it? kulelu88
[18:47] <kulelu88> OerHeks: because it is a dependency that is included within libpeas in future versions?
[18:48] <OerHeks>  12 may https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.debian.bugs.dist/Mq25RxHy5XQ/kHGbhAjJBQAJ  Hello Barry, > > so, libpeas-1.0-0-python2loader has officially made it into Debian.
[18:48] <OerHeks> it didn exist then, so as it is an LTS too, new functions will not be implented
[18:48] <OerHeks> so what does it break ?
[18:49] <WhiteWabbit> i need a valium, had a hard day, /me pops up a valium out of his pocket.
[18:49] <OerHeks> !ot | WhiteWabbit
[18:49] <WhiteWabbit> okie
[18:50] <kulelu88> OerHeks: see here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20714740/how-do-i-troubleshoot-ipython-listener-and-or-gedits-ipython-plugin . lots of gedit plugins break/don't-work because of the missing python2-loader
[18:51] <WhiteWabbit> from now on if i don't have a solution for someone's problem or something ubuntu related i'll just watch.My apologies.
[18:51] <WhiteWabbit> I already registered.
[18:53] <OerHeks> hard to believe that bugerort  involves 14.04 .. 	your trusty has gedit 3.10.4 or higher ??
[18:53] <Elec_A> Hi,I am "./configure"ing a source, but it needs a library, I have downloaded that library and I have compiled it. it has some .h, .o and .cpp files, how can I give the path of this library to configure ?
[18:53] <kulelu88> 3.10.4
[18:54] <kulelu88> the plugin I used was from software centre also: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gedit-developer-plugins/
[18:54] <kulelu88> the fact that it exists on the software centre but lacks the known bug dependency is interesting
[18:56] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/gedit-developer-plugins does not have that python package as dependencie. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas/1.8.1-2ubuntu2
[18:56] <OerHeks> so file a bugreport then ?
[18:56] <OerHeks> i guess the answer will be: no, that plugin is not going to be ported..
[18:56] <ioria> Elec_A, a library usually has a .a or .so extension ... do you have it ?
[18:57] <Elec_A> ioria: no there is no *.so file in the path.
[18:57] <WhiteWabbit> Elec_A: you may need extra options while compiling
[18:57] <WhiteWabbit> for example include etc
[18:58] <ioria> Elec_A,  well, you first need to have your lib compiled... or you cannot link
[18:59] <Elec_A> WhiteWabbit: How can I see if I need a option. makefile ?
[19:00] <kulelu88> OerHeks: what if I just installed the .deb package of libpeas-python2 ? will that fix it?
[19:03] <Elec_A> ioria: I'm doing make all
[19:03] <Elec_A> and I get no errors
[19:03] <WhiteWabbit> Elec_A: i think you can apply the command right after the ./configure like --includes
[19:03] <WhiteWabbit> and add =/path
[19:03] <WhiteWabbit> it's been a while since i was compiling so my apologies.
[19:04] <Elec_A> WhiteWabbit: I'm doing ./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/home/fa/Desktop/ALMA/CDL" LDFLAGS="-L/home/fa/Desktop/ALMA/CDL"
[19:04] <Elec_A> but still I get the same error
[19:04] <WhiteWabbit> what dependencies it has and what's that you're trying to compile??
[19:04] <kulelu88> Elec_A: you should be careful about compiling software on your work machine. Any mistake (severe enough) could cause complications
[19:04] <WhiteWabbit> can't you use apt-get install?
[19:05] <WhiteWabbit> there isn't on the repositories?
[19:05] <Elec_A> WhiteWabbit: I want to install IRAF CDL
[19:05] <Elec_A> I think there it is not in the repositories
[19:05] <ioria> Elec_A,  if , as i think , it's not in standard-path you need to tell the linker where the lib is ... g++ main.o -o app -L<path>/lib -lmylib
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> yes libraries and headers
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> you need to apply as parameters while compiling.
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> and i suggest you not make install
[19:07] <mrkvic> hi all, i'm new :D
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> try to ln -s the executable to your ~/bin
[19:08] <WhiteWabbit> hello mrkvic
[19:08] <mrkvic> anyone can tell me a channel with italian community of ubuntu?
[19:08] <Pici> !who
[19:08] <ikonia> !it | mrkvic
[19:08] <Pici> !it | mrkvic
[19:08] <mrkvic> thank you - grazie!!!
[19:08] <WhiteWabbit> prego amico
[19:10] <WhiteWabbit> xine is still on the playground?
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> it was the best video player i ever compiled.
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> too much dependencies though.
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> i was back on SuSE back then
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> before it was opensuse
[19:11] <ioria> !info xine-ui
[19:12] <WhiteWabbit> cool
[19:13] <WhiteWabbit> !info aide
[19:14] <WhiteWabbit> nice
[19:15] <WhiteWabbit> but i don't have so much sensitive files to use that.it's just too much.
[19:15] <WhiteWabbit> and it is heavy oh lord
[19:16] <WhiteWabbit> takes forever to initialize
[19:16] <WhiteWabbit> !info rkhunter
[19:16] <WhiteWabbit> sweet
[19:17] <ioria> !bot | WhiteWabbit
[19:17] <WhiteWabbit> huh?
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> sorry my english are not good enough to understand a lot
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> should i do something?
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> ah you mean i should check online at that url
[19:18] <Pici> WhiteWabbit: ioria is telling you that you can /msg ubottu yourself to interact with it instead of sending junk to the channel, or use the website
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> ok
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> okie
[19:18] <Pici> WhiteWabbit: also, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for random non-support chatter
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> sorry buddy
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> ok
[19:19] <WhiteWabbit> my apologies for any troubles i may cause you tonight.
[19:19] <WhiteWabbit> now i know, i just first joined here.
[19:20] <Guest56316> hi
[19:20] <Bashing-om> WhiteWabbit: NP, it is all a process of learning .
[19:20] <WhiteWabbit> ok thanks, you are a great guy.
[19:21] <WhiteWabbit> i always go by the rules, i am a whitehat, i just need to get used to the rules in here.
[19:23] <Bashing-om> WhiteWabbit: This channel is support . and it gets busy .. anything not support related takes away from support . Thus #ubuntu-offtopic .
[19:23] <WhiteWabbit> I understand.
[19:23] <WhiteWabbit> Next time i will join that offtopic for offtopic things.
[19:24] <WhiteWabbit> Have a wonderful evening, i am running low on juice on laptop.
[19:24] <WhiteWabbit> Be safe.
[19:40] <mrkvic> is there any software like skype for ubuntu?
[19:41] <_cake> ... skype?
[19:41] <_cake> google hangouts?
[19:42] <OerHeks> there is a skype package in the partner-repo, and there is a newer beta skype somewhere
[19:42] <OerHeks> !skype
[19:43] <OerHeks> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[19:43] <OerHeks> sorry, alfa ( not even beta )
[19:49] <hdon> hi all :) what is a simple command-line utility to view images in common image file formats?
[19:49] <hdon> oh right, imagemagick comes with one i think... display?
[19:51] <ioria> hdon, you mean open image from terminal ?
[19:52] <sikun> have a LVM fs I'm trying to 'recover' it's part of a RAID 5 array from a NAS device. I'm able to mount the volume, but it is showing an 'empty' file system, versus mdadm showing a decent utilization of the supposed array.
[19:55] <allamoox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22728443/
[19:55] <b-yeezi> hdon, from the terminal (particularly xterm) you can use the ranger file manager. If you have w3m installed, it will show the image inline
[19:55] <allamoox> Hello I reinstalled for the 3rd time.
[19:55] <arooni> i have a ubuntu laptop that i've set up both AFP connections to as well as SAMBA connections... and both work fine. i'm doing this to let arq backup agent as well amazon cloud drive backup my files  questions 1) should i be using AFP or SAMBA ? i've heard conflicting reports.  2) is there a way to auto connect/reconnect to the laptop when it goes to resume?
[19:55] <allamoox> I try to install webmin but it doesn't complete...
[19:56] <arooni> (connecting to mac os x)
[19:56] <allamoox> and every time Im trying to install something I got this erro
[19:56] <hdon> b-yeezi, xterm supports pixmaps?
[19:56] <hdon> wow i never knew...
[19:56] <b-yeezi> yup
[19:57] <b-yeezi> man ranger
[19:57] <Bashing-om> !info webmin
[19:57] <hdon> thanks b-yeezi
[19:57] <b-yeezi> hdon, np
[19:58] <allamoox> ubuntulog:  but I downloaded the file.deb and I tried dpkg --install file.deb
[19:58] <allamoox> but It hangs..
[19:58] <allamoox> and I dont know what to do .
[20:00] <allamoox> ubottu:  How can I let this error go aaway
[20:01] <allamoox> dam.
[20:01] <allamoox> ok
[20:01] <tyler_d> arooni: AFP will eventually be turned off, and has known issues with mtu.
[20:01] <tyler_d> arooni: and yes.
[20:01] <arooni> tyler_d: so sounds like samba is the right way to do it;  how can i auto resume a samba connection after my laptop suspends?
[20:02] <tyler_d> arooni: you would want to set it up in your fstab and work from there
[20:02] <tyler_d> allamoox: try `sudo dpkg --install file.deb`
[20:03] <arooni> tyler_d: right now; i'm connecting from mac os x to my ubuntu samba share... how would i set up a fstab entry?  i'm a bit confused.  would i be connecting from my laptop to my mac ?
[20:03] <allamoox> tyler_d:  Im root already
[20:03] <tyler_d> allamoox: tail the logs while trying it
[20:03] <tyler_d> arooni: you are talking from your laptop to the samaba share automagic?
[20:04] <tyler_d> arooni: if that'
[20:04] <allamoox> http://www.webmin.com/deb.html Im follwoing this "how to setup"
[20:04] <allamoox> but they ask me to add their rep into my /apt/source.list
[20:04] <allamoox> is it safe if i did so?
[20:04] <arooni> tyler_d: i'm conecting from my mac os x to my ubuntu laptop (i want to run the backup programs available for mac on my ubuntu data)
[20:04] <tyler_d> arooni: if that's the case tehn I'm unsure how to get your osX to autoconnect
[20:05] <OerHeks> allamoox, that is an unsafe guide for 16.04
[20:05] <tyler_d> arooni: yah, you've have to ask an osx guy
[20:05] <OerHeks> allamoox, and webm in is not suitable for debian/ubuntu anyway, how does your postfix come up with webmin errors???
[20:05] <tyler_d> allamoox: I have no idea, I tend to default to 'not safe'
[20:05] <arooni> tyler_d: so theres not a way to have the laptop sort of reping mac os x after resuming from suspend?
[20:05] <Terminus_> I have a bit of pickle here guys, if any1 can help that would be awesome. I have a win8 on dev/sda1 (boot) and dev/sda2 (OS), i installed Ubuntu after that - dev/sda3 (/), dev/sda5 (swap) and dev/sda6 (EFI)... I couldn't see OS selection screen so I ran a grub repair tool, now I have grub on start but it's not detecting windows
[20:06] <allamoox> OerHeks:  I didnot install postfix
[20:06] <allamoox> I will install webmin , as its much easier
[20:06] <tyler_d> arooni: there is likely a way, I'm simply not versed in it.
[20:06] <OerHeks> allamoox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22728443/
[20:06] <OerHeks> allamoox, then you are on your own, good luck!
[20:07] <allamoox> OerHeks:  but because I got this error, I decided to go with webmin.
[20:07] <allamoox> its too complicated.
[20:08] <allamoox> and Im in a hurry to setup the mailserver
[20:08] <Terminus_> I managed to add a  menu item to grub for windows, but i have no idea how to config it to point to windows boot - this is what i added for menu item http://pastebin.com/piFJw9dc
[20:08] <gebbione> hi folks, i have upgraded from 14 to 16 and my monitors are not detected and video resolution is not great, what should i look into to fix it
[20:08] <gebbione> ?
[20:11] <gebbione> very helpful :/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[20:12] <OerHeks> not only ubuntu, linux global
[20:13] <OerHeks> AMD uses the radeon driver, or for newer GPUs the AMDgpu driver
[20:13] <gebbione> well i didnt have these huge problems on 14
[20:14] <OerHeks> oh there are more changes, init > systemD
[20:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[20:14] <arno_> Hi there. When I login, I always have to type my username and password in lightdm. I'd like to set the default user on lightdm, so that I only have to type my password. I don't know to do. Oh, and my user infos are stored remotely (LDAP maybe?), so my username is not in /etc/password. Has anyone an idea?
[20:15] <OerHeks> arno_, external, no. internal one could tweak lightdm login
[20:23] <gebbione> are radeon cards supposed to work right out in ubuntu 16?
[20:23] <gebbione> how can i config it?
[20:23] <OerHeks> "radeon" cards would be the cards that are not supported by the AMDgpu driver
[20:24] <OerHeks> yes, by the radeondriver.
[20:24] <OerHeks> the beta AMDgpu on their site supports:
[20:24] <OerHeks> beta driver Radeon™ RX 480 RX 470 R9 Fury/Fury X/Nano
[20:24] <OerHeks> R9 M395X 390X M385 380X 360 290x 285 m270x 260x
[20:25] <arno_> OerHeks: what do you mean? (internal/external)?
[20:25] <gebbione> well i have a HD 5770 and it is all wrong, but i just cant figure out what to configure if possible to fix it
[20:26] <Ascavasaion> Bashing-om: I found out partially what the problem was the other day.  Upgrade from 14LTS to 16LTS broke desktop... had to reinstall gnome desktop.  but that just got me into X Windows, and that is riddled with other errors. Segment faults with console commands, popups for errors all the time.  Decided to do a fresh install from ISO.  Busy backing up stuff ands creating bootable USB stick.  Just wanted to let you know what the issue was, and to
[20:26] <Ascavasaion> thank you for trying to help me the other night.
[20:26] <OerHeks> arno_, with ldap i don't know howto tweak that
[20:26] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, what broke on ur desktop?
[20:26] <OerHeks> arno_, i would consider that as a security issue.
[20:26] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Where do I begin :)
[20:27] <gebbione> well ok i can tell u what is wrong on mine
[20:27] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: It froze on bootup with a waiting for UID 118 ... which I discovered was gdm.
[20:27] <OerHeks> i think the radeon driver only supports 2 screens, iirc
[20:28] <gebbione> ok i m not that blocked
[20:28] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: When I run anythign in console I get segmentation fault and notified that it did a core dump.
[20:28] <gebbione> OerHeks, i have two screens but they are mirroring not extending
[20:28] <gebbione> OerHeks, also resolution is rubbish
[20:28] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: I am continuously getting pop up windows warning me that Ubuntu had an error and to ask me to report it
[20:29] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: screen lock has borken, it does not come back from locked screem
[20:29] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: When I eventually manage to get it back, only sometimes, the mouse stops working.
[20:29] <Elec_A> Hi, How can we know where is ./configure looking for libraries? because I have installed libcfitsio packages but It still gives me the error "CFITSIO is required.
[20:29] <Elec_A> "
[20:30] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Sometimes the boot hangs, sometimes not.
[20:30] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: All in all the upgrade from 14 LTS to 16LTS was dreadful and something I would not wish on my worst enemy.
[20:31] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, that is really annoying ... still i am also stuck. I wish they had a prompt to say that ubuntu is stopping supporting radeon drivers and created new ones that dont really work
[20:31] <gebbione> i would not have progressed with upgrading
[20:31] <gebbione> and this is version 16.4
[20:32] <xangua> gebbione: by Ubuntu you mean Nvidia?
[20:32] <xangua> And there are release notes, so yes it did
[20:32] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: It should ahve been nbackwards copatible.
[20:33] <gebbione> xangua, ubuntu removed Catalyst/fglrx in 16
[20:33] <gebbione> on 14 there is no prob
[20:33] <OerHeks> and not only ubuntu ..
[20:33] <gebbione> or at least not as bad as on 16
[20:33] <Ascavasaion> now I have spent the last hour or more writing ISO to USB.
[20:34] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, going back to 14?
[20:34] <tgm4883> gebbione: uh, no. That's not the whole story
[20:34] <arno_> OerHeks: I'm talking about just the username. I still want to continue to enter my password every time
[20:35] <mcphail> Elec_A: the ./configure script looks wherever the writer of the script has asked it to look. Many of them are generated by autoconf, and use pkg-config. Remember to add the -dev versions of any libraries you need
[20:35] <tgm4883> gebbione: IIRC, AMD dropped support for FGLRX on newer xservers, which 16.04 ships
[20:36] <Elec_A> mcphail: you mean the writer has specified it in configure.ac file ?
[20:36] <martinSue> Is this the right place to ask a usb-live ubuntu question?
[20:36] <OerHeks> arno_, nope i think it cannot be done, maybe someone else in this channel knows a tweak ?
[20:36] <gebbione> tgm4883, i read some stuff from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:37] <gebbione> but still my question is 1) how to fix it and 2) if reasonable a warning on install would have kept me away from upgrading
[20:37] <arno_> OerHeks: ok, thanks
[20:38] <OerHeks> arno_, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[20:38] <Murii> hey fellows
[20:38] <mcphail> Elec_A: if that is what they have used to make the configure script, yes
[20:38] <bekks> arno_: maybe you can tweak that in the config of lightdm.
[20:38] <Murii> I want to come to ubuntu after getting sick of arch linux
[20:38] <tgm4883> gebbione: how to fix what? What card do you have?
[20:38] <Murii> I need a good program to write to usb
[20:38] <Murii> any ideas?
[20:38] <mcphail> Elec_A: usually they ask pkg-config to find a library
[20:38] <bekks> Murii: dd. Same as on archlinux.
[20:39] <gebbione> tgm4883, Radeon HD 5770 with a small resolution now and no dual screen detection
[20:39] <Murii> I'm kinda in a hurry so an GUI app would be appreciated bekks
[20:39] <Elec_A> mcphail: it is using "AC_CHECK_LIB([cfitsio], [ffvers], [], AC_MSG_ERROR([CFITSIO is required.]))"
[20:39] <bekks> Murii: So open a terminal and use dd in there :)
[20:39] <tgm4883> gebbione: hmm, 5770 is old enough it should work with radeon I think. I'd have to check what my laptop has, but I think it's roughly that
[20:39] <bekks> Murii: you could have been done with that already.
[20:39] <martinSue> I'm wondering if it is possible to add a small data partition to my live-usb, and use that from within the live-booted system. The trouble i'm experiencing is that I can't mount it, it says "already mounted", I'm guessing because /dev/sdb is mounted ro at /cdrom ? Any ideas?
[20:40] <Murii> what do I need to type? bekks
[20:40] <Murii> not really that familiar with the command
[20:40] <bekks> Murii: That depends on what you want to do.
[20:40] <gebbione> tgm4883, so in the case where it is not working what is the best i can do?
[20:41] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: No, going to try a fresh install of 16 instead of the upgrade.
[20:41] <mcphail> Elec_A: that simply tries to link against the library
[20:41] <Elec_A> mcphail: in the documentation says : "These days it is normally better to use AC_SEARCH_LIBS([gethostbyname], [nsl]) instead of AC_CHECK_LIB([nsl], [gethostbyname])."
[20:42] <Elec_A> I mean documentation of "autoconf"
[20:42] <tgm4883> gebbione: well you can either A) check your logs, see if it's throwing errors on something and try to fix that, B) try creating a custom xorg.conf file that specifies the correct info (since it sounds like it's not detecting your stuff correctly) or C) go back to 14.04
[20:42] <Elec_A> mcphail: but I don't know how to convert it.
[20:42] <gebbione> how easy is c?
[20:43] <tgm4883> gebbione: reinstall
[20:43] <tgm4883> gebbione: well, backup and reinstall
[20:43] <mcphail> Elec_A: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:43] <Elec_A> mcphail: oh, Sorry then. thank you for your help.
[20:44] <OerHeks> gebbione, maybe writing a proper xorg.conf can do the trick, expanded virtual desktop.
[20:44] <mcphail> Elec_A: First port of call should be the Ubuntu repos, to see whwther the package exists already. Next port of call should be the developer, to ask why the libs aren't linking
[20:45] <gebbione> OerHeks, unfortunately i know nothing about writing a xorg file for my card config
[20:45] <martinSue> No ideas?
[20:46] <mcphail> Elec_A: if the package already exists in Ubuntu, but you want to compile a different version, running "apt-get build-dep packagename" will often install all the needed packages to compile
[20:47] <Elec_A> mcphail: unfortunately it is not in Ubuntu.
[20:47] <OerHeks> to create an standard xorg.conf http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there and the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:48] <MY123> Secure Boot is dead
[20:50] <Elec_A> when we say #include <something.h>,  something.h is in /usr/include ?
[20:50] <Elec_A> what places can a header file be ?
[20:50] <Elec_A> I mean without giving its address to compiler
[20:50] <MY123> Elec_A: also /usr/local/include, /usr/include/<triplet>, /usr/include/<arch>
[20:51] <Elec_A> MY123: so /usr/local/include is already known by compiler by default, yes ?
[20:52] <MY123> Elec_A: yes
[20:52] <Elec_A> MY123: thanks :)
[20:53] <gebbione> ok it looks like ubuntu installation created a xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:53] <Elec_A> How can we uninstall a package when there is no "uninstall" option in "make" ?
[20:54] <martinSue> I had no trouble doing this with Debian live, is it not possible in ubuntu?
[20:54] <gebbione> and i dont see a xorg.conf
[20:54] <gebbione> should i copy mv to xorg.conf?
[20:54] <genii> Elec_A: use distclean/dist-clean
[20:55] <MisterLeafy> am I in the room ?
[20:55] <MisterLeafy> I think I am
[20:55] <MisterLeafy> YAY
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> MY gosh Wireless is hard to get around here
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> Hello minksy
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> S
[20:56] <Elec_A> genii: thanks :)
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> so I havent installed ubuntu in a very long time
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> It looks all new
[20:59] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Fresh install has begun. :-)
[20:59] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, at least u have hope :p
[21:00] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Always hope.. without it I would be using Windows :)
[21:00] <MisterLeafy> I just found out that if I press this Caps-lock key that EVERYTHING TURNS big
[21:00] <tgm4883> !ot | MisterLeafy
[21:00] <MisterLeafy> I got a nifty laptop !
[21:00] <MisterLeafy> its a scrap laptop from work
[21:01] <MisterLeafy> but I am ecstatic
[21:01] <Ascavasaion> MisterLeafy: Very nice... always nice to get new toys.
[21:01] <tgm4883> MisterLeafy: if you have a support question then ask it, otherwise take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:02] <gebbione> Segmentation fault at address 0x0
[21:02] <MisterLeafy> will do
[21:03] <MY123> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12250830
[21:04] <bekks> MY123: Do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[21:04] <MY123> bekks: yep
[21:04] <bekks> MY123: So ask it then.
[21:05] <martinSue> Can I config live-usb persistence to store only the files I choose?
[21:08] <gebbione> so if i run `sudo X :1 -configure`
[21:08] <gebbione> i get in my xorg log
[21:09] <gebbione> http://pastebin.com/7wyak24R
[21:10] <Ascavasaion> So, fresh install of 16.04.1 LTS done, and no WiFi, sigh sigh sigh
[21:14] <gebbione> any takers on the xorg troubleshooting?
[21:14] <gebbione> apart from running -> sudo X :1 -configure and getting  error http://pastebin.com/7wyak24R what can i do
[21:16] <rangergord> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04. /etc/network/interfaces doesn't contain anything for eth0, only for "lo". And yet I have eth0 working fine according to ifconfig. How is Ubuntu doing this? Does it have an alternative network configuration system?
[21:19] <OerHeks> gebbione, maybe this is a better howto
[21:19] <OerHeks> http://zeroset.mnim.org/2013/01/07/dual-head-monitor-setup-on-ubuntu-linux-with-xorg-and-radeon/
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Ascavasaion: Was away from the keyboard . Pleased ya have the means of forward progress .. even if it is that nuclear thing of RE-install . :)
[21:20] <NSABear> lets say I want to setup a email server. Do I have to worry about it getting put on a spam list if it's just for friends and I?
[21:20] <timyp> NSABear yes
[21:20] <NSABear> timyp, Hwo would I prevent this
[21:21] <cimbakahn> Hello Everyone!
[21:21] <timyp> an IP rep is something you will need to build up overtime, and most residential ISP's submit there IP blocks to spam filters by default
[21:21] <NSABear> timyp, this is in a datacenter.
[21:21] <cimbakahn> Say that i want to install slingscold from this PPA ppa:noobslab/apps ...... This is one of those PPAs that have alot of packages in it (239).  It is not just a repository for 1 item.
[21:21] <gebbione> OerHeks, my xrandr doesnt have bigger resolutions
[21:21] <timyp> https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
[21:21] <cimbakahn> Now, playonlinux is in there.  I already have playonlinux installed.  Is it going to cause problems with the one i already have installed?
[21:22] <gebbione> i can try to force a xorg file but as far as i know it should detect hardware capabilities on its own
[21:22] <tgm4883> NSABear: when you say it's just for friends and you, are you sending email to external addresses?
[21:22] <timyp> you can monitor your IP rep and see if you are on any block lists with that link
[21:22] <NSABear> tgm4883, yes
[21:22] <timyp> also make sure you setup DKIM and spf records
[21:22] <mahdi-sh> hi !
[21:22] <NSABear> We're not doing anything on the scale of cock.li
[21:23] <timyp> what the fuck is cock.li?? never mind I don't want to know
[21:23] <NSABear> timyp, go to the link
[21:23] <tgm4883> !ohmy | timyp
[21:23] <mahdi-sh> hi every body
[21:23] <NSABear> It's a email provider based out of romania with complete respect for privacy
[21:23] <timyp> no you lost my interest at cock sorry
[21:23] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: After the upgrade I did from 14 to 16 the only way I got back into GUI was to re-install the gnome desktop environment.  I am not suggesting you do it, I am just saying.  My system was so buggered that even that never fixed anything else but the GUI access I lost.
[21:23] <NSABear> It's a email provider based out of romania with complete respect for privacy timyp
[21:24] <NSABear> Here, I'll ruin it more. They also provide @horsefucker.org iirc
[21:24] <timyp> oh kind of link the old Lavabit
[21:24] <NSABear> not quite.
[21:24] <timyp> link=like
[21:24] <timyp> oh
[21:24] <NSABear> they do co-operate with the law
[21:24] <NSABear> They don't track you though
[21:24] <tgm4883> where's dax when you need him
[21:24] <timyp> is it for internal messages only?
[21:25] <NSABear> no, you can email outside of cock.li
[21:25] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, can i do that from synaptic?
[21:25] <NSABear> tgm4883, who's dax?
[21:25] <tgm4883> NSABear: don't worry about it
[21:25] <timyp> email is inherently  not secure by default, unless you use PGP. Once you cross domains its all unecrypted, SSL can only take you as far as your own domain
[21:25] <NSABear> tgm4883, You want to call ops on us because you're triggered by a email provider i presume.
[21:25] <OerHeks> NSABear, stop it.
[21:26] <tgm4883> NSABear: I'm not triggered by anything, I'd just like to adhere to channel guidelines
[21:26] <mahdi-sh> join #5hit
[21:26] <NSABear> OerHeks, stop what? tgm4883 We're talking about a email provider but aok!
[21:26] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: I did it command line... but you should be able to.  again.. I am not suggesting you do it.  What I know about Linux is frightening./
[21:26] <NSABear> I'll refer to them by their other email: tfwno.gf
[21:27] <timyp> Anyway NSABear if you want to monitor your email/IP reputation use this https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
[21:27] <timyp> and if you want to setup a bad ass email server use this http://iredmail.com/
[21:27] <gebbione> well at the moment the guides OerHeks is giving me look like they fix someone else problem :)
[21:28] <gebbione> when i do xrandr -q i only get one monitor
[21:28] <NSABear> OerHeks, btw can you not nick alert me telling me to stop doing things without specify what I'm doing that you don't like.
[21:28] <NSABear> timyp, ty for the link.
[21:29] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: OerHeks is the one to listen to.  He showed me how to get back into GUI when Screenlock refused to unlock.
[21:29] <NSABear> Ascavasaion, can't you just pkill -9 the lock daemon?
[21:29] <gebbione> well i guess my problem requires a lot of trial and error
[21:29] <Ascavasaion> NSABear: Each time?
[21:29] <NSABear> oh
[21:29] <gebbione> i knew however i should have not upgraded
[21:29] <NSABear> That's a bad issue ; - ;!
[21:30] <OerHeks> gebbione, odd, here i get 2 screens perfectly
[21:30] <anom> Hai
[21:30] <anom> Which is the best phone that I can use as a full OS, connect to a monitor and plugin keyboard and mouse?
[21:30] <Elec_A> hi, I have a library and I have *.so file in it. there are some header files and *.o files too. how can I install these files?
[21:31] <k1l> anom: sounds like you want to look at #ubuntu-phone
[21:31] <k1l> anom: sorry, the channel is #ubuntu-touch
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: Gernerally, you don't. What is it you're actually trying to install?
[21:31] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/a/XLXlf
[21:31] <anom> cheers k3l
[21:31] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: It is a socket library.
[21:31] <anom> k1l*
[21:32] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: so how can I give its address to ./configure ? I have exported CFLAGS and LDFLAGS but still it cannot be found
[21:32] <rangergord> k1l: you using ubuntu touch? if so how is it?
[21:32] <NSABear> anom, Like I said if you didn't recieve it
[21:32] <NSABear> Windows Phone is the best option for what you want sadly.
[21:33] <NSABear> anom, you might be able to get Ubuntu Phone on a Nexus
[21:34] <OerHeks> !touch
[21:34] <zerowaitstate> it looks like aws cli no longer installs on ubuntu 16.04
[21:34] <NSABear> Ubuntu Touch is more of a failure than anything.
[21:34] <cimbakahn> Say that i want to install slingscold from this PPA ppa:noobslab/apps ......
[21:34] <cimbakahn> This is one of those PPAs that have alot of packages in it (239).  It is not just a repository for 1 item.  Now, playonlinux is in there.  I already have playonlinux installed.  Is it going to cause problems with the one i already have installed?
[21:34] <anom> oh cheers nsabear
[21:34] <gebbione> OerHeks, the thing is that those tutorials assume xrandr -q shows the monitors but i see only one
[21:34] <NSABear> The Ubuntu Phone was too ambitious and never happened sadly.
[21:34] <gebbione> and it is called default
[21:35] <c0l0ny13_> When you are defining paths in *.conf files, is there a default path that is assumed?
[21:35] <OerHeks> .. NSABear if don't give supportive answers, please be quiet.
[21:35] <gebbione> so not much of a match
[21:35] <k1l> NSABear: stop that FUD.
[21:35] <anom> i just want a phone that I can run vim and chrome off
[21:35] <anom> then i can dithc me laptop
[21:35] <NSABear> k1l, what FUD? OerHeks I am giving supportive answers.
[21:35] <NSABear> He was a phone that can double as a computer on the go and Windows 10 is the only one currently targeting that usccessfully.
[21:35] <NSABear> You can't really buy ubuntu touch devices.
[21:36] <NSABear> BootToGecko has been retired.
[21:36] <NSABear> anom, Looks like Ubuntu Touch isn't completely dead yet.
[21:37] <k1l> NSABear: just stop your rantings and offtopic and offensive language in here. there are ubuntu touch phones and tablets on the marked. so saying "it never happend" is just plain a lie.
[21:37] <NSABear> anom, There's the Meizu Pro 5
[21:37] <NSABear> k1l, ...
[21:37] <NSABear> k1l, Don't put words in my mouth and lie.
[21:38] <gebbione> OerHeks, this is what i start with http://pastebin.com/gpp6BMuE
[21:38] <NSABear> k1l, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[21:38] <timyp> https://itsfoss.com/best-command-line-games-linux/
[21:38] <NSABear> It never happened. The fundraiser fell short.
[21:38] <gebbione> and the fact that only one monitor is visible and called default tells me something is not detected
[21:38] <gebbione> i wonder why#
[21:38] <NSABear> So before you get all "I"M A OP BAH ABH BAH!!1 LISTEN TO ME >:(!!" and throw a temper tantrum learn what you're defending.
[21:38] <NSABear> Ubuntu Edge, sorry not phone.
[21:38] <timyp> how did drugwars not make it on the list?
[21:38] <gebbione> also what name do i use for the second screen?
[21:38] <NSABear> It failed to meet the fundraising goal becuase it was too ambitious.
[21:39] <tgm4883> NSABear: you're comparing a hardware project to a software project
[21:39] <k1l> NSABear: that is not the only ubuntu touch device. and that is what you made it look like. but as said before, there is a channel for talk about the touch devices and this is all oftopic in here.
[21:39] <NSABear> tgm4883, I'm talking about the hardware side.
[21:39] <OerHeks> gebbione, me too, as you claim they mirror, not extend the desktop.
[21:39]  * NSABear rolls his eyes
[21:39] <CodingCookie> how can i update the atom editor ? just reinstall or is there a command
[21:39] <Elec_A> I'm trying to compile a code and I get fatal error: wx/gizmos/ledctrl.h: No such file or directory
[21:39] <NSABear> Moving targets are moving Targets. Anyways timyp you where usggesting a mail server for Ubuntu
[21:40] <tgm4883> NSABear: Then apparently you're confused, because the feature that he was talking about (being able to plug in a keyboard/mouse/monitor and use it like a computer) is a function of the software, not hardware
[21:40] <NSABear> tgm4883, he asked for a phone that could do that so you're clearly confused.
[21:40] <OerHeks> troll gets trolled :-D
[21:40] <NSABear> I told him a viable answer for a device that could do that.
[21:40] <k1l> we are done talking that offtopic in here
[21:40] <NSABear> You can do it with Android and Ubuntu touch but that's not the topic of this channel.
[21:40] <tgm4883> NSABear: he asked for a phone that could do that and you started talking about the ubuntu edge that didn't happen. That sure was helpful...
[21:41] <NSABear> tgm4883, I'm asking you kindly to please stop nick alerting me and trying to bring the discussion back.
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: Again, what are you actually tryong to install?
[21:41] <Simbaclaws> does anyone know how I can open up my google drive documents through libreoffice? I have added a "online-account" through gnome and I can open up docx files but I can't open up the excel files.
[21:41] <NSABear> I'm trying to repsect k1l's orders but you're making it quite difficult by bringing it back.
[21:41] <OerHeks> gebbione, is this a laptop?
[21:41] <k1l> CodingCookie: you need to reinstall it if there is no updater in that program. it isnt shipped by ubuntu repos
[21:42] <tgm4883> lol
[21:42] <timyp> yes NSABear check out Iredmail.org its script that will install postfix, dovecot,  amavisd, sogo, roundcube, coupled with a nice webUI for user management in about 15 mins.
[21:42] <gebbione> OerHeks, it is a full desktop with 24 inch monitors
[21:42] <NSABear> timyp, damn :O!
[21:42] <Simbaclaws> I tried ooo2dg but this seems to not work with the current Oauth from google
[21:42] <jemadux> can i use mutiple mirrors at once ? cuz in debian in my sources.list i have http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/
[21:42] <timyp> here the script in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAdt2l1aDc
[21:43] <NSABear> timyp, another important question for you. I'm looking into getting away from Googl eservices as much as possible. What would you suggest for running on a Ubuntu box to replace things like Google calender syncing
[21:43] <timyp> sogo
[21:43] <NSABear> I want to sync to my own dedicated server hosted proffessionally so I can keep all my devices in sync. I'd also love to integrate with LXDE
[21:43] <timyp> uses active sync for most mobile OS's also included in iredmail
[21:43] <leonardo_> Hi guys
[21:44] <NSABear> timyp, So I can just passivley sync everything from my nexus?
[21:44] <timyp> Its an MS exchange killer https://sogo.nu/
[21:44] <timyp> works great on android
[21:44] <NSABear> No apps required?
[21:45] <leonardo_> i need a midi keyboard software
[21:45] <timyp> not for andriod once the Sogo server is setup you just configure the mail account on the phone as if it were an exchange server
[21:45] <NSABear> perfect
[21:45] <timyp> there is also a nice webUI for cals, contacts, and email
[21:46] <NSABear> timyp, what don't you do?
[21:46] <timyp> what you mean NSAbear?
[21:46] <timyp> what don't I do what?
[21:46] <NSABear> timyp, you've answered all my questions quickly and frinedly.
[21:46] <NSABear> timyp, You're like the customer support we want but don't deserv.e
[21:47] <timyp> thats what the community is for!
[21:47] <Ascavasaion> So, fresh install of 16.04.1 LTS done, and no WiFi.  lspci shows the wireless card is there.  Any pointers?  It worked perfectly in 14.04.1.
[21:47] <timyp> lol
[21:47] <timyp> thanks for the kind words
[21:47] <NSABear> timyp, timyp the community i run is quite offensive.
[21:48] <NSABear> We harden our ubuntu boxes whereever we can think of to prevent unauthorized access.
[21:48] <timyp> yea thats the internet for you
[21:50] <ohlolz> so in 16.04 right when it shows the login screen it goes black for like 1-2 and then reappears. is this normal?
[21:51] <ohlolz> does that happen to you?
[21:52] <NSABear> What's with the 60FPS cap on AMDGPU drivers?
[21:54] <ohlolz> hi ikonia
[21:58] <cimbakahn> Say that i want to install slingscold from this PPA ppa:noobslab/apps ......
[21:58] <cimbakahn> This is one of those PPAs that have alot of packages in it (239).  It is not just a repository for 1 item.  playonlinux is in there.  I already have playonlinux installed.  Is it going to cause problems with the one i already have installed?
[21:58] <tgm4883> cimbakahn: possibly
[21:59] <cimbakahn> I don't know how to get a PPA or a DEB for jut that 1 package.
[21:59] <cimbakahn> jut is just
[22:00] <bomek> cimbakahn, just use pinning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[22:00] <k1l> cimbakahn: install that ppa, run apt update, install that package, deactivate ppa
[22:01] <timyp> cimbakahn if you are concerned about dependence issues see if you can't use snap packages
[22:01] <timyp> that way all dependencies 's will be self contained
[22:02] <tgm4883> Or copy the package to your own PPA
[22:04] <ohlolz> tgm4883: are you on 16.04? does your screen goes to black for like 1 or 2 seconds right after it shows you the login screen?
[22:05] <tgm4883> ohlolz: I've got lots of systems on 16.04
[22:05] <tgm4883> ohlolz: I don't believe it does that, but I'd have to check one of them
[22:05] <ohlolz> tgm4883: it's when it shows you the first login screen
[22:05] <tgm4883> So before login, just after the login screen loads?
[22:06] <cimbakahn> I just found this PPA ppa:flexiondotorg/slingscold ...It only has slingscold and looks like it has a newer version.
[22:07] <ohlolz> tgm4883: it asks for my password, goes to blank right away like it updates the wallpaper then it comes back
[22:07] <ohlolz> goes to black tgm4883 *
[22:07] <tgm4883> ohlolz: let me fire up my laptop
[22:08] <cimbakahn> Thanks guys!
[22:09] <Elec_A> I install libwxgtk3.0-dev and it installed some header files in /usr/include/wx-3.0 . now I purged it but the header files are still there.
[22:09] <Elec_A> how can I remove wx3 header files
[22:10] <Elec_A> The reason is I have installed wx2.8 and I don't want wx3
[22:10] <Elec_A> wx3 is not back compatible
[22:11] <tgm4883> ohlolz: nope, I don't have that issue
[22:12] <ohlolz> ok tgm4883 thank you very much for taking your time and helping me
[22:12] <ohlolz> tgm4883: will search on the web
[22:14] <trism> Elec_A: the headers are in wx3.0-headers
[22:16] <Adam^work> okay, so... I'm running a mail server and a web server... neither can I access from LAN but I can access from WAN... I don't get it...
[22:17] <Elec_A> trism: Thank you :)
[22:18] <Jordan_U> Adam^work: Are you using the LAN ip or the public ip from the LAN?
[22:18] <Adam^work> anyone know a setting that would block connections from lan from doing a... http://www.example.org but if you are out there on the net and do the same it works?
[22:18] <Adam^work> if example.org is hosted in house
[22:18] <Adam^work> same network
[22:19] <Adam^work> everyone on the lan gets their ip from the router's DHCP server
[22:19] <Adam^work> the server is wired into the router, the rest are wireless clients
[22:20] <brmmm3> Hi. I've got a general question on uid and gid generation. On Linux uids are generated by finding the next free uid when a user is created. Same with gid. So on Ubuntu the first user gets uid 1000 and gid 1000. The second user gets uid and gid 1001. So now if we look at a very common situation where a family has several computers. Each member has it's own computer so it's own installation. So for example John's computer has the first user
[22:20] <brmmm3> john. Mary's computer the  first user mary. Each have the same uid 1000. Now John buys an external drive and formats it with ext4. On this drive he puts some private files. Then Mary connects this drive on her computer and she sees all files with mary's user name and group and she can read all the files. Isn't this a major design bug or am I completely wrong?
[22:20] <brmmm3> turtleon1on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[22:21] <Adam^work> [internet]->[static ip cable modem]->[router]->[wired ubuntu server]/[wireless clients]
[22:21] <Adam^work> I'm thinking it's the router, I've never seen anything like this before, of course I've never had a static ip before either so...
[22:22] <arooni> hey folks; what are files/directories safe to ignore (in my home directory) during backups?  (ubuntu 16.04)
[22:26] <para000> hi guys
[22:26] <para000> very beginer in linux, need little help with setting up a VPN using OpenVPN, anyone good at this?
[22:32] <lordcirth> arooni, well, the cache dir ~/.cache
[22:32] <pam> I'm trying to transfer some MP3s to my phone via the usb cord...tried to connect via MTP...every few seconds a popup on my phone (samsung note 4) asks if I want to allow or deny the MTP connection.  This keeps on screwing up the file transfer.  What can I do to stop this from happening?
[22:33] <k1l> pam: sounds like a broken cable
[22:33] <pam> kll: this happens with a couple of different cables
[22:33] <para000> can anyone help me? so i manage to install OpenVPN and connect to it from another PC, but on my server i have multiple IPs and i want to asign 1 ip to individual conexion
[22:34] <pam> it'll be transferring files and then stop halfway through
[22:34] <k1l> or the usb ports on phone/pc?
[22:36] <craigbass76> We're homeschooling this year, and I wanted to be able to set up a sheet with some math problems for the kids to do. Can't seem to figure out how to get 5, new line, +5, new line, horizontal equals sign. Anyone familiar with LibreOffice Math, or some other program that will let me make worksheets?
[22:36] <pam> kll: it only stops when I'm transfering files.
[22:36] <k1l> hmm
[22:37] <ubuntu405> hi, any ubuntu based pbx distros?
[22:38] <smurfendrek123> Hey guys does anyone know of an alternative where i can easily plot functions by typing something similar to plot(y=x) and integrating functions and stuff
[22:38] <ubuntu405> with a nice gui
[22:38] <pam> k1l: is there anyway to debug the usb connection while the phone is connected?
[22:38] <k1l> pam: look at dmesg
[22:38] <trism> smurfendrek123: maxima is pretty good
[22:38] <pam> just type dmesg?
[22:39] <k1l> pam: yes
[22:39] <smurfendrek123> trism, but you can't plot with maxima right?
[22:39] <trism> smurfendrek123: yes you can in integrates gnuplot
[22:39] <smurfendrek123> oh cool
[22:39] <trism> smurfendrek123: if you get wxmaxima you can see it right in the window
[22:40] <smurfendrek123> what's wxmaxima?
[22:41] <trism> smurfendrek123: it is a gui for maxima
[22:41] <trism> !info wxmaxima
[22:41] <smurfendrek123> does it offer advantages, because i don't mind typing in plot and int
[22:41] <smurfendrek123> how do i exit maxima lol
[22:42] <trism> smurfendrek123: ctrl+d
[22:42] <smurfendrek123> thanks
[22:43] <smurfendrek123> does the gui just offer buttons that pretype some of the syntax for you?
[22:44] <pam> k1l: here is the dmesg output if you can take a quick look at it http://pastebin.com/0DWg7j5w
[22:44] <pam> k1l: if you search for samsung it'll take you to the part
[22:45] <trism> smurfendrek123: yes, there are menus and dialogs and such to simplify plotting and other things
[22:45] <k1l> pam: this looks like disconnect issue. does the phone work on other OS/pcs?
[22:46] <pam> I haven't checked
[22:46] <trism> smurfendrek123: but I'm pretty sure it all converts to maxima syntax so I don't think it really does anything maxima doesn't do
[22:46] <smurfendrek123> cool thanks trism
[22:46] <k1l> pam: check another usb port. and try to put out other usb devices at the same time.
[22:47] <smurfendrek123> any idea on how i get multiple figures in the same graph?
[22:47] <trism> smurfendrek123: you can use a list, say, plot2d([sin(x), cos(x)], [x, -%pi, %pi]);, but I don't really think general maxima support is appropriate to the channel
[22:48] <jjasinski> Hi all, I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 from the live cd. I went through the entire install process, but when I reboot, Grub doesn't seem boot.
[22:48] <smurfendrek123> okay that's it for those questions, huge thanks trism
[22:48] <jjasinski> I've tried running the disk repair tool
[22:48] <jjasinski> boot-repair
[22:49] <jjasinski> but I admit, the UEFI boot process is new to me
[22:49] <catbeard> hey guys, chrome with foxyproxy isn't respecting my hosts file, running ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[22:49] <jjasinski> I'm not trying to dual boot
[22:49] <jjasinski> but
[22:49] <catbeard> chrome 52
[22:49] <jjasinski> I have a second partition of ext4 data that I'm trying not to erase
[22:49] <jjasinski> so I don't want to just do the full install
[22:49] <pam> k1l: looks like its happening on the other usb port as well
[22:50] <catbeard> resolv.conf is set to <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>, host.conf is set to order hosts,bind
[22:50] <timyp> jjasinski what Os's are you trying to dual boot?
[22:50] <gldvvtr> jjasinski, im having the same problem, errors with UEFI..
[22:50] <catbeard> ping gets the right ip in the hosts file, but chrome doesn't pull the same ip, dns prefetching is disabled (managed by ublock)
[22:50] <tH3G3nTl> hi there
[22:50] <jjasinski> timyp, not trying to dual boot.
[22:50] <jjasinski> but have a second parition that I don't want to erase
[22:50] <timyp> maybe try to enable legacy boot in UEFI
[22:50] <catbeard> trying to pull it up in incognito mode where ublock is disabled, can only access the ip via foxyproxy though
[22:50] <pam> k1l: thanks for everything so far.  going to look at this later.
[22:51] <catbeard> chrome://dns says prefetching and tcp-preconnect is disabled
[22:51] <jjasinski> timyp, is that a BIOS setting?
[22:51] <timyp> yea
[22:51] <timyp> maybe you will see something about secure boot, try to disable it and see if the OS boots
[22:51] <k1l> catbeard: sounds more like you need to ask the chrome and/or foxyproxy guys to get an answer on theat
[22:51] <gldvvtr> jjasinski, checkout this ubuntu help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:52] <jjasinski> gldvvtr, thainks looking at that link now
[22:52] <jjasinski> timyp, I have an HP Envy
[22:52] <jjasinski> It's a bios that's a bit different from what I've seen, but I'll look for that option
[22:53] <jjasinski> There is a boot order section that has a section for legacy device
[22:53] <jjasinski> (were I can rearrange the boot order of the devices, but I can't move the legacy stuff above the UEFI stuff)
[22:54] <timyp> maybe http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03653226, so many implementation of UEFI
[22:55] <timyp> there was nothing wrong with good old bios don't know why they had to f* it up
[22:55] <jjasinski> Thank you timyp, I'll take a look at that
[22:55] <ohlolz> is there a date when legacy boot will be a thing of the past?
[22:56] <timyp> now these UEFI boards can access the internet directly it's a recipe for disaster.
[22:56] <timyp> thats up to the hardware vendors I suppose
[22:56] <timyp> Ubuntu is suppose to have all the required signing keys for UEFI to boot correctly.
[22:57] <jjasinski> Good to know.
[23:01] <ohlolz> my update from 14.04 to 16.04 officially released on July 28th was a total disaster; after installing couldn't boot and etc. had to reinstall 16.06 from zero. just letting you guys know :D
[23:01] <ohlolz> 16.04*
[23:01] <timyp> yea http://askubuntu.com/questions/493409/is-disabing-secure-boot-needed-for-ubuntu-14-04-dual-boot-with-windows-8-uefi
[23:02] <ohlolz> disabling secure boot also helps with wifi problems, from what i've read.
[23:02] <timyp> I have gone out of my way to by hardware with traditional bios to avoid having to deal with secure boot.
[23:02] <ohlolz> using legacy because destiny
[23:09] <barnex> hey, I'm having an issue at work. Seems something went wrong and now kernel has no modules during boot.
[23:09] <barnex> I recognize this by the fact that the USB keyboard isn't working after grub
[23:09] <barnex> net isn't working
[23:09] <barnex> etc
[23:09] <rangergord> Hi. If I run   sudo echo "#" > /etc/snmp/snmp.conf   , I get permission denied. But if I do "sudo nano /etc/snmp/snmp.conf", I can edit it. How is that possible? What am I missing about permissions
[23:09] <barnex> and when I lsmod after booting, the keyboard module isn't loaded.
[23:09] <k1l> barnex: what did you do before?
[23:10] <barnex> k1l: I think I was removing old kernels with some bash loop from serverfault
[23:10] <barnex> because the /boot was getting full
[23:10] <k1l> barnex: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[23:10] <barnex> 14.04
[23:10] <k1l> is there an older kernel to boot in grub?
[23:11] <ProfessorKaos64> Does anyone here play quake on Linux? namely using FTE?
[23:11] <barnex> well, it's 1 am here and the net module isn't working as well, so hard to tell for sure. But there might be some left.
[23:11] <k1l> barnex: make sure "linux-generic" is installed.it will pull in the latest kernel and headers (which is needed to build modules with dkms)
[23:11] <CHVNX> ProfessorKaos64: Ask your question. Please do not preface it with audition questions.
[23:11] <barnex> ok, so just installing linux-generic and maybe dpkg-reconfigure should fix this?
[23:11] <barnex> assuming the /boot partition is correctly mounted?
[23:12] <k1l> barnex: no need for dpkg-reconfigure. and yes, /boot needs to be mounted if its a seperate partition
[23:12] <barnex> cool, thanks a lot.
[23:12] <ProfessorKaos64> If anyone uses FTE for quake, have you had trouble saving your video settings or loading them on next start?
[23:13] <barnex> Now the only issue I have is getting lan drivers so I can install, but I guess that's googlable with some lspci.
[23:13] <CHVNX> ProfessorKaos64: https://www.reddit.com/r/quake/comments/4vmjpz/cant_load_saved_video_settings_in_fte_any_help/
[23:14] <CHVNX> This issue?
[23:14] <ProfessorKaos64> Yes... seems as if I am the only one in the world :)
[23:14] <CHVNX> https://sourceforge.net/p/fteqw/tickets/32/
[23:15] <CHVNX> Honestly, the only thing I can think of, which probably isn't correct, is that you moved the game to /usr/share... suggesting potential permissions issues?
[23:15] <ProfessorKaos64> the binary is /usr/games the data is /usr/share/quake
[23:15] <ProfessorKaos64> the config file is read from $HOME/.fte/id1/fte.cfg
[23:18] <CHVNX> Is SteamOS an Ubuntu distro? I thought it was based on Debian.
[23:18] <k1l> it is debian
[23:19] <ProfessorKaos64> It's Debian Jessie , with some tweaks, such as a standalone compositor
[23:20] <ProfessorKaos64> I do have another quake 2 client I packaged, but it would be nice ot use FTE. If I have to, maybe for now, I'll keep my hack in the config file
[23:20] <ProfessorKaos64> if you change the settings, they will saved, then put the hacky "vid_restart "1"" in config file
[23:25] <Ascavasaion> Goodnight.
[23:25] <Ascavasaion> Oops, wrong room.
[23:34] <bubble_mood> Hi
[23:41] <Gallomimia> i seem to have choked on a kernel update come out today. any others seen that?
[23:42] <Gallomimia> oh. it's fixed now... or is it?
[23:44] <fxdf> oh maybe, did a new install of gnome today and it crashed out after i updated lol
[23:44] <Guest28793> Hi i have a problem i was wondering if anyone could help me with. I'm trying to create a LiveDVD using Geniso image and squashfs. I was able to get almost to the very end of the process but then it complains that the iso file size is over 4.1 GB in size and it stops there. I ran the command mksquashfs --help and it showed that XZ was NOT my deafult compression method which i believe is what caused my ISO file to be larger than 4.1 GB. How do i set my
[23:44] <Guest28793> compression to be XZ by default on Ubuntu? Any help would be great
[23:45] <Gallomimia> i installed new kernel packages. it complained that it didn't complete properly. i ran autoremove... seems to have fixed the problems. very concerning
[23:52] <fckfreen1> anyone have a thinkpad x240 with a 6 Cell battery?
[23:58] <netham45> Hi, I have two GPUs in my desktop, a GTX970 and an Intel card. I would like to load a VM and pass the Intel card through to it. I can do this using a paravirtualized guest in Xen but nvidia's drivers don't cooperate with Xen at all. Is there another option for passing a GPU through that'll let me keep my nvidia card working on the host?
[23:58] <netham45> I don't have VT-d either, I was using Xen's option for PCI passthrough on a non-VT-d CPU.