[03:20] <toko123>  Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not installable
[03:20] <holycow> tim__, the other thing people forget is that they have 15 years or more of training on windows, you can't replace 15 years of training with 10 days of trying
[03:20] <toko123> wtf
[03:20] <HilBilly> how can I install mplayer using synaptic in ubuntu?
[03:20] <holycow> tafsen, pretty much all your questions can be answered in the wiki.ubuntu.com ... most people have similar questions to yours and usually they also have found a solution / explanation that makes sense to noobs
[03:20] <toko123> trying to intall mplayer
[03:20] <pierre__> someone ?
[03:20] <holycow> HilBilly, search for mplayer, select it, install it?
[03:20] <mr-russ> where can I ask development question/bug question? here?
[03:21] <HilBilly> I search, get no results
[03:21] <pierre__> holycow can you help me ?
[03:21] <tim__> great point holycow im sure my problem is a bit of ego too, i have always been able to do whatever i needed to do and this is a lot more work
[03:21] <holycow> pierre__, go to ubuntu.com search for restricted formats.  go to that page and in tehre you will find info on how to install w32codecs
[03:21] <holycow> mp3 support is in w32codecs ... that should be all you need
[03:21] <tim__> if that makes any sense
[03:22] <adtherat> secondly, during updating, it says that there's a new release of Ubuntu available, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions, but after looking for a bit, I could not find anything for upgrading, just getting a CD image. Mind if anyone could tell where to look at for upgrade instructions or how to upgrade Ubuntu?
[03:22] <Kindred> !w32codecs
[03:22] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:22] <jedi> any x86_64 users get good multimedia support?
[03:22] <pierre__> ok tanks
[03:22] <holycow> tim__, also make sure you uninstall totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine just to be sure
[03:22] <holycow> errr.... last point was for whoever was asking for mp3 info
[03:22] <holycow> sorry tim__
[03:22] <toko123> holy_cow, I try to intall mplaer but the dependendcies are unavailabel?
[03:22] <tafsen> Under Section "Module" In xorg.conf, I need to add Load "drm" to get the drm to load?
[03:22] <toko123> Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable
[03:22] <toko123>  Depends: libggi2 (>=1:2.0.5) but it is not installable
[03:22] <toko123>  Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not installable
[03:23] <Kindred> adtherat, what release do you have?
[03:23] <holycow> toko123, are you running ubuntu breezy?
[03:23] <Toma-> toko123: what are u installing?
[03:23] <toko123> running 5.10
[03:23] <MonsterCookie> holy_cow, i believe you're right and that the w32codecs only work with totem-xine and not totem-gstreamer
[03:23] <toko123> kubuntu
[03:23] <tim__> you have been great i appreciate the help, hopefully next time i come back i will know the right questions to ask
[03:23] <adtherat> Kindred, I'm running breezy, yes
[03:23] <holycow> MonsterCookie, just an fyi, totem-gstreamer has an mp3 plugin all its own, but i don't use it so don't know
[03:23] <damien_> ok, someone please tell me why there's about 13 000 packages missing when i run synaptic?
[03:24] <holycow> damien_, because by default ubuntu only supports 2000 or so
[03:24] <adtherat> Kindred, I'm running breezy, I think, let me double check :P
[03:24] <holycow> damien_, enable the other repos to get the unsupported packages
[03:24] <MonsterCookie> i know that, holy_cow ;) i use it
[03:24] <damien_> oh crap...
[03:24] <Kindred> adtherat, yeah the next release is still in development, you likely wouldn't want that
[03:24] <Eleaf> damien_, what?
[03:24] <holycow> MonsterCookie, sorry :) appologies
[03:24] <damien_> i should've known
[03:24] <tafsen> holycow: I didn't find anything, som maybee you can answer if it's Under Section "Module" In xorg.conf, I need to add Load "drm" to get the drm to load?
[03:24] <adtherat> Kindred, 5.04, I'm running
[03:24] <damien_> holy_cow, i forgot about universe :P
[03:24] <Carl> ok, I have a fat32 partition and I want to read/rite in linux as well as windows, windows recognizes it fine, linux it sees it and displays it as sd1, when I click on it it comes up with "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to vew the contents of "sda1" "
[03:24] <Eleaf> damien_, what?  why are you so 'sad'?
[03:24] <MonsterCookie> i use gstreamer/totem and i have mplayer so's to have the best of both worlds. no probs, holy_cow, you weren't to know :P
[03:24] <toko123> Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable
[03:25] <holycow> tafsen, i forgot what you are trying to solve here sorry ... what are you doing again?
[03:25] <toko123> ?
[03:25] <ubuntubooger> ahh i am rtying to get my buddy hooked up with breezy and the install goes fine but then i get a error 25 on the grub loader
[03:25] <ubuntubooger> Seveas, please help me
[03:25] <Kindred> adtherat, ah okay that's hoary - you'll probably want to upgrade then - have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:26] <tafsen> holycow: Im trying to fix my 3d acc, And I found out that the drm module isn't loaded and that could be an problem. So Im trying to load it :)
[03:26] <Dreamglider> sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <adtherat> ah thanks. Aye. Yeah, got the names mixed up. ^^; Dis-lex-tica does that to you
[03:26] <Dreamglider> adtherat,
[03:26] <deang> Carl:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files
[03:27] <holycow> tafsen, you need to know what video card you are running, and then google the support info.  unless you are running nvidia i have no clue i never buy hardware without nvidia cards if i want 3d acceleration
[03:27] <ubuntubooger> error 25.... bueler bueller
[03:27] <holycow> tafsen, otherwise i settle for plain 2d acceleration using whatever drivers are available
[03:27] <holycow> tafsen, in otherwords, i don't know how to setup your card, sorry
[03:27] <Kindred> Dreamglider, don't just say that, they'll end up with a half completed dapper..
[03:27] <Carl> I've been there but I don't know what 2 do with the discmounter program
[03:27] <dawid> why when i set the permissions of a folder doesnt it set the same for those under it?
[03:27] <tafsen> holycow: I have googled and found out that I need to load the drm
[03:27] <Dreamglider> sorry
[03:28] <sethk> dawid, why would it?
[03:28] <holycow> tafsen, not sure what a drm module is ... :/ sorry, try the wiki maybe.  the nvidia install doesn't require me to know much :)
[03:29] <perrygeo> anyone tried automatix on Dapper?
[03:29] <CookieNinja> no. what does it do, perrygeo ?
[03:29] <holycow> tafsen, as a guess it ought to be under section 'module' add load 'drm' and restart x server
[03:29] <guest666> has anyone else seen this issue at the top of this post http://www.eggheads.org/pipermail/eggheads/2005-June/012086.html ?
[03:30] <dawid> well how can i imply it to do that?
[03:30] <perrygeo> CookieNinja: installs all sorts of "extras" on top of breezy.. java, flash, codecs, etc
[03:30] <Carl> ok, I have a fat32 partition and I want to read/rite in linux as well as windows, windows recognizes it fine, linux it sees it and displays it as sd1, when I click on it it comes up with "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to vew the contents of "sda1" " everybody keeps pointing me to "diskmounter" I've found this file but do not know how 2 use it, please help
[03:30] <CookieNinja> ahh, rings a bell, perrygeo. i've heard of it. i thought it was for versions earlier than dapper
[03:30] <holycow> Carl, you have that drive in a usb cradle?
[03:31] <_jason> Carl, use the umask=000 option
[03:31] <Carl> nope
[03:31] <holycow> Carl, its on the ide chain?
[03:31] <_jason> Carl, umask=0000, four zeros i think
[03:31] <Carl> just a regular hd
[03:31] <perrygeo> CookieNinja: yep. that's why I wanted to ask before I tried it on dapper ;-)
[03:31] <holycow> Carl, sda1 doesn't sound right, it should be more like hda1
[03:31] <Carl> what is that - umask
[03:31] <CookieNinja> be a brave man, perrygeo, and try it
[03:31] <CodenameKT> hold on guys
[03:31] <Carl> ???
[03:31] <Carl> hmm
[03:31] <CookieNinja> then you can tell everyone else, perrygeo
[03:31] <nickrud> perrygeo, you should read the script first, see what it does
[03:31] <guest666> hi,
[03:31] <guest666> I also have an eggdrop on an ubuntu pc but it doesnt either start
[03:31] <guest666> without the -nt switches and i dont even use X... So i believe that the
[03:31] <guest666> problem is at the ubuntu configuration itself... Have you seen an
[03:31] <guest666> eggdrop working at Ubuntu distro?
[03:31] <CodenameKT> Carl: wait a second...is ur hard drive a scsi?
[03:31] <Carl> what is sda?
[03:31] <dawid> sethk : Well how can i recursively set permissions?
[03:31] <guest666> im getting the same shit on my install, lol
[03:32] <_jason> Carl, do you understand chmod permissions?
[03:32] <boxy> I have a problem:  When i try to boot the Ubuntu DVD ISO, it boots and everything but when it trys to detect and mount my dvd drive i get "Can not mount installation cd"
[03:32] <perrygeo> nickrud: fairly simple.. just alot of apt-gets for the most part
[03:32] <holycow> Carl, usually a usb device shows up as sda1 or 2 or 3 or whatever .. depends
[03:32] <sethk> dawid, use the -R flag to chmod
[03:32] <CodenameKT> Carl: nm ur hard drive is scsi instead of normal ide that is why it is under sda1 or an sda
[03:32] <perrygeo> here goes nothing...
[03:32] <George__> hey guys
[03:32] <CookieNinja> my understanding of what's involved, perrygeo, would lead me to believe that it will probably be fine
[03:32] <tuvok302> has anyone managed to get the Intel536EP driver to work? it keeps saying i need to install the kernel source
[03:32] <pinS> how do i update "linux-image-386"
[03:32] <Carl> I have one drive that is scsi but not the one with that peticular partition I want to get at on
[03:32] <holycow> Carl, do fdisk -l, that should show you all your partitions on your ide chains
[03:32] <CookieNinja> but i am guessing, perrygeo
[03:32] <pinS> ??
[03:32] <nickrud> perrygeo, then do them yourself, trust no one :)
[03:32] <CodenameKT> Carl: in order to mount it properly go to /etc/fstab and find the line that is mounting it
[03:32] <Dreamglider> what's the latest ubuntu release ?
[03:32] <George__> I got a annyong problem, and It is making me feel like saying the f word :P, My wireless connection is detected in Ubuntu but not wokring. It's a IBM R40 Laptop
[03:33] <holycow> what CodenameKT said
[03:33] <phreak97> can some help me out? double clicking a link in xchat doesnt open it
[03:33] <dawid> sethk : well i was using nautilus, is there a way to do it in nautilus
[03:33] <George__> How i get ubuntu to do dhcp?
[03:33] <Carl> I'm confused can someone help me in a pm?
[03:33] <sethk> dawid, I have no idea, I wouldn't dream of trying to do it that way
[03:33] <holycow> phreak97, chances are its stuck, your supposed to only single click on icons in the panel
[03:33] <dawid> hehe
[03:33] <George__> I have not used Ubuntu before, there's no dhcpcd or something. There is ifconfig
[03:33] <George__> iwconfig
[03:33] <CodenameKT> Carl: i can't pm but i did this on my comp so i most likely can assist u
[03:33] <dawid> okay no its cool its not a big deal anyways...
[03:33] <ron_> hello all
[03:33] <George__> helpp me thanks!
[03:33] <boxy> I have a problem:  When i try to boot the Ubuntu DVD ISO, it boots and everything but when it trys to detect and mount my dvd drive i get "Can not mount installation cd"
[03:34] <holycow> phreak97, try adding a system monitor applet to your panel, you can then click on that to check for duplicate/stuck processes and kill them visually
[03:34] <George__> boxy: how fast u burn isO?
[03:34] <perrygeo> Automatix on Dapper.. the script is smart enough to detect the version and won't run.. damn
[03:34] <CodenameKT> Carl: i promise i wont give u a bunch of half ansers but let us hurry. go to into your /etc/fstab
[03:34] <boxy> its not a problem with the DVD i've already tryed
[03:34] <George__> Oo :P really...
[03:34] <Carl> ok
[03:34] <phreak97> holy_cow,  XCHAT
[03:34] <ron_> anyone know how to get fglrx working in hoary?
[03:34] <phreak97> the irc client
[03:34] <George__> WiRELESs and linux, what the *@#8213
[03:35] <phreak97> if i type www.google.com and double click it, nothing happens
[03:35] <George__> XCHAT simple and easy
[03:35] <holycow> phreak97, what? is that some type of rendom response to my help suggestion?
[03:35] <sipior> George__: are you looking for dhclient?
[03:35] <boxy> George__, I also already tryed pci=noacpi and noapic noalapic
[03:35] <George__> Sipior No!
[03:35] <George__> man
[03:35] <Carl> ok I found fstab
[03:35] <George__> UMM let me tell u
[03:35] <phreak97> holy_cow, sounded like you thought i just said x
[03:35] <George__> I got everything set up
[03:35] <deang> Carl: Same here.      I saved 'diskmounter' as '~/diskmounter.sh', found it in Nautalis, checked properties and gave it Executable persmissions.   Then went to Terminal, ran 'sudo ~/diskmounter.sh' and all went well.
[03:35] <CodenameKT> Carl: did u open it up with some text editor?
[03:35] <sipior> George__: Okay!
[03:35] <George__> wireless working and stuff but ubuntu won't get me connected to the thing
[03:35] <holycow> phreak97, read my suggestion again *nod*
[03:35] <George__> It is found,
[03:35] <George__> i tried iwconfig and it there
[03:36] <Carl> ya
[03:36] <George__> no WEP ETC
[03:36] <Carl> I opened it with gedit
[03:36] <phreak97> holy_cow,  panel = text area?
[03:36] <CodenameKT> Carl: do u see the line refering to ur fat32 partition?
[03:36] <George__> I RESET THE ROUTER, and set everything up agian! So what ya think I should try??
[03:36] <phreak97> neither ever worked
[03:36] <Carl> ya
[03:36] <holycow> phreak97, nope, panels are the things at the top and bottom that hold all the icons and menues
[03:36] <phreak97> single click does nothing
[03:36] <sipior> George__: how did you invoke iwconfig?
[03:36] <phreak97> thats what i thought
[03:36] <Carl> it says vfat
[03:36] <dawid> so has any1 gotten steam to work with wine/
[03:36] <phreak97> i do only single click those
[03:36] <holycow> phreak97, most likely xchat is stuck with duplicate processes
[03:36] <CookieNinja> can you ping outside world ip addresses via the wireless card, George__ ?
[03:36] <Carl> I mounted it as /osfileshare when I partition it and I see it there
[03:37] <phreak97> i never double click them
[03:37] <George__> no that's the problem
[03:37] <holycow> right click on your top panel and add system monitor applet
[03:37] <George__> RIGHT there
[03:37] <CodenameKT> Carl: can u paste what u have under the options to this chan real quick?
[03:37] <phreak97> and links have never worked ever
[03:37] <George__> I DO not 1 get a IP,
[03:37] <phreak97> from the day i installed
[03:37] <sorush20> why do I keep getting this error?
[03:37] <George__> I set it to dhcp
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda6       /OSFILESHARE    vfat    defaults
[03:37] <holycow> phreak97, once you have a system monitor applet you can bring up the system process list that can show you if you have duplicate/stuck processes
[03:37] <phreak97> they underline when i hover over them
[03:37] <Carl> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:37] <Carl> #
[03:37] <Carl> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:37] <Carl> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda6       /OSFILESHARE    vfat    defaults        0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> Carl: users, owner,rw,umask000
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> no no no
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> stop!
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> stop
[03:37] <CookieNinja> you don't get an ip George__ ? then it's not connecting the wireless access point
[03:37] <CodenameKT> i said just options
[03:38] <CodenameKT> not everything in file
[03:38] <CodenameKT> crap
[03:38] <Carl> ok
[03:38] <Carl> ???
[03:38] <CookieNinja> or dhcp isn't working ... but i would go with the 1st guess
[03:38] <phreak97> holy_cow,  im aware, im looking at it now, and theres only one xchat
[03:38] <phreak97> it isnt stuck
[03:38] <kameron> !tell carl about paste
[03:38] <phreak97> i can end it and restarty as much as i like and it wont help me
[03:38] <phreak97> restart*
[03:38] <holycow> phreak97, xchat just wont start?
[03:38] <holycow> phreak97, the only other thing i can suggest is trying to reinstall it
[03:38] <holycow> ;/
[03:39] <phreak97> holycow, itll start, im in it
[03:39] <phreak97> using it
[03:39] <CodenameKT> CarlFK: instead of defaults on that line that refers to vfat put what i wrote above and then umount /OSFILESHARE and then mount /OSFILESHARE
[03:39] <George__> what Ur GUESS COOKIE?
[03:39] <ubuntubooger> Seveas, please help me
[03:39] <holycow> phreak97, ? whats the problem then?
[03:39] <sipior> George__: have you confirmed that the router is providing IP addresses to other machines properly?
[03:39] <ubuntubooger> ahh i am rtying to get my buddy hooked up with breezy and the install goes fine but then i get a error 25 on the grub loader
[03:39] <phreak97> my problem is that web links dont launch firefox
[03:39] <CookieNinja> you set the password right George__ ? if you think you have & can reach the access point to read the logs .. see if it can be seen trying to connect in the logs (i'm hoping it logs this info)
[03:39] <George__> lOL
[03:39] <George__> I GOT 6 COMPUTERS
[03:39] <George__> 3 of LAPTOP
[03:39] <George__> ALL GETTING IP THIS IS WHY I AM FRUSTRATED
[03:39] <George__> my IBM Z60m works fine
[03:39] <sipior> George__: does one of them have a functional caps lock key?
[03:39] <phreak97> holycow, thats my problem.. i just didnt put your name in front to highlight for you
[03:39] <George__> Umm,,, this thing has sticky keys
[03:40] <dawid> how can i setup my keyboard shortcuts?
[03:40] <George__> anyway what u THINK i try?
[03:40] <George__> Duh
[03:40] <George__> it's in System
[03:40] <CodenameKT> johndarkhorse: why u go off and do that?
[03:40] <George__> preferneces orr whatt the heck
[03:40] <dawid> i know the keyboard works cause the volume +/- works but next track and pause dont work
[03:40] <phreak97> holycow,  also clicking a nick on the left does nothing
[03:40] <George__> and keyboard shortcuts
[03:40] <holycow> phreak97, can't help you with an xchat specific question, there are probably xchat channels around or something sorry, don't knkow it well enough
[03:40] <George__> so
[03:40] <phreak97> ok
[03:40] <phreak97> what do you use?
[03:40] <George__> SYSTEM- PREFERNCES = KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS
[03:40] <George__> there u go :P
[03:40] <phreak97> holycow, what do you use?
[03:40] <holycow> phreak97, well left isn't supposed to do anything, right gives you user info
[03:40] <holycow> phreak97, xchat
[03:41] <George__> Ideas on how to get my wireless working??
[03:41] <phreak97> if i type www.google.com and you click it, does it open?
[03:41] <sipior> George__: have you specified the essid correctly?
[03:41] <holycow> phreak97, you don't double click on the link
[03:41] <George__> essid? meaning my router thing yeah?
[03:41] <sipior> George__: yep
[03:41] <George__> yes I did
[03:41] <holycow> you right click and select open in .... whatever options it gives you
[03:41] <George__> linksys
[03:41] <CodenameKT> CarlFK: instead of defaults on that line that refers to vfat put what i wrote above and then umount /OSFILESHARE and then mount /OSFILESHARE
[03:41] <phreak97> holycow,  if you single click?
[03:41] <Carl> i'm back
[03:41] <holycow> phreak97, single right click
[03:42] <phreak97> oh, so you have to choose open in web browser?
[03:42] <holycow> do we need to smack you for not thinking to right click dude?
[03:42] <holycow> c'mon :)
[03:42] <CodenameKT> Carl: users, owner,rw,umask000 thats what u need for options
[03:42] <CookieNinja> has it got a wired connection too, George__ or just a wireless one ?
[03:42] <holycow> phreak97, what do you think? yes of course :)
[03:42] <phreak97> im making a transition from sysreset (mirc) so im still getting used to things
[03:42] <sipior> George__: no, try something like "iwlist eth1 scanning", replacing eth1 with the appropriate device
[03:42] <holycow> phreak97, its okay, but remember there is usually 2 buttons on a mouse :) hehehe
[03:42] <Carl> so enter that instead off "defaults"?
[03:42] <CodenameKT> Carl: oops it's umask=000
[03:42] <George__> ummmm I changed the name to thissucks, and put that as the essid, and now it doing something
[03:42] <CodenameKT> Carl: yes
[03:43] <George__> bah the Network Settings doing something now
[03:43] <CodenameKT> Carl: and then umount and mount again and it will let u read write
[03:43] <holycow> phreak97, note i was kidding :)
[03:43] <George__> nope still getting nothing
[03:43] <fangorious> anyone having trouble with hitting the sleep/suspend button going into suspend instead of hibernate (as specified in /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn, and every power management I've tried in gnome and kde)
[03:44] <sipior> George__: what's the name of the interface? eth0? eth1?
[03:44] <George__> When I click COnnection Properties I dont see ETH0, or eth1
[03:44] <George__> wHY the heck is this?
[03:44] <dawid> okay so i set the shortcuts at system->prefs->kb shortcuts now how can i get xmms to play along?
[03:44] <Carl> I can't seem 2 edit fstab
[03:44] <George__> it's eth0
[03:44] <CodenameKT> make sure u r root first
[03:44] <CodenameKT> sudo gedt /etc/fstab
[03:44] <sipior> George__: then try "iwconfig eth0 essid thissucks"
[03:44] <CodenameKT> Carl: gedit rather
[03:44] <Carl> I'm a reall noob getting a little confused
[03:44] <George__> ETH0 = WIreless, ETH1 = RJ45, PPP0 = Modem
[03:44] <George__> k
[03:45] <CookieNinja> heh, George__ your essid reminded me of the name of mine, which is arsewipe .. because it was a pig to setup due to me not checking what channels everyone else around me used :s
[03:45] <Carl> I"m in gedit
[03:45] <George__> failed
[03:45] <ubuntubooger> George__, could you message me ubuntubooger
[03:45] <George__> operation not permitted
[03:45] <phreak97> holycow,  lol
[03:45] <sipior> need to be root, try sudo
[03:45] <George__> cant message u
[03:45] <CodenameKT> Carl: close gedit and open a terminal in terminal type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:45] <phreak97> its just easier to avoid menus if possible
[03:45] <George__> I anit regerstrered
[03:45] <phreak97> things go quicker
[03:45] <holycow> hey guys ... instead of getting the dude to do the wierless stuff in the text file ...
[03:45] <Carl> ok
[03:45] <holycow> why don't you get them touse wifi-radar?
[03:45] <cafuego> CookieNinja: That's what 500mW transmitters are for :-P
[03:45] <holycow> its a great gui for selecting and easily setting wireless settings
[03:45] <holycow> its a one click wonder
[03:46] <George__> um Dude I got no freaken internet
[03:46] <CodenameKT> holycow: how much are they paying u?
[03:46] <George__> exect on the other ibm thinkpad
[03:46] <ClayG> anyone here know how to change the MAC on a cable modem?
[03:46] <CookieNinja> cafuego, explain ? what are they and can one attach to any wifi card ?
[03:46] <George__> lol fook, u can do that?
[03:46] <holycow> CodenameKT, :) enough to know i shouldn't haveto lif a finger :)
[03:46] <CodenameKT> ClayG: hahahaa u can't
[03:46] <nickrud> holy_cow shills for naught :)
[03:46] <ubuntubooger> someone message me i am showing my freind what will happen when he gets messaged
[03:46] <George__> I cant help
[03:46] <ubuntubooger> please
[03:47] <holycow> ubuntu__, msg your self
[03:47] <holycow> *sheesh*
[03:47] <George__> lol
[03:47] <holycow> :)
[03:47] <cafuego> CookieNinja: No, they're high power access points. Mind you, high power wifi cards are able to be had, too. Probably up to 200mW
[03:47] <Carl> ok what do I enter in there again?
[03:47] <George__> Hey, Who has any ideas what 2 do??
[03:47] <CodenameKT> Carl: enter in what?
[03:47] <CodenameKT> Carl: fstab?
[03:47] <Carl> in options
[03:47] <Carl> instead of "defaults"
[03:47] <dawid> night
[03:47] <CodenameKT> Carl: users,owner,rw,umask=000
[03:48] <sipior> George__: what was the result of running that command under sudo?
[03:48] <Carl> ok entered, what now?
[03:48] <CookieNinja> cafuego, i read that 500mw transmitters create a range of upto 20km ... aint that overkill in a wee house in london lol
[03:48] <George__> I Dont have NO SECURITY SET<>IT WONT CONNECT<> WHY?
[03:48] <CodenameKT> Carl: save and then open a terminal
[03:48] <George__> how do i kick myself?
[03:48] <Carl> ok
[03:49] <CodenameKT> Carl: in terminal do umount /osfileshare or whatever u r calling it and then mount /osfileshare
[03:49] <sipior> George__: were you responding to my question?
[03:49] <George__> yea
[03:49] <CodenameKT> oh do those commands as root again:o)
[03:49] <George__> Still the B and S word
[03:49] <George__> ok
[03:49] <George__> THIS THE PROBLEM?
[03:49] <CookieNinja> George__, does the router even see the card trying to connect ? does iwconfig show that it is connected to the router or not connected to it ?
[03:49] <CodenameKT> Carl: i forgot do the sudo umount /usfileshare and sudo mount
[03:49] <George__> DURING SETup I didn't install dhcp on it?
[03:49] <cafuego> CookieNinja: maybe up to 20KM from the top of a mountain to the next mountain, certainly not in a city. Even 200mW only gets you a 50m radius of decent reception if there's not too many buildings in the way.
[03:49] <Carl> it says that it isn't mounted
[03:50] <CodenameKT> Carl: ok then mount it
[03:50] <ubuntubooger> hey how do i get to the cli with the install  cd?
[03:50] <George__> It shows me sH*** and I dont know how 2 read it
[03:50] <Carl> it says it can't find it
[03:50] <sipior> George__: when you try "sudo iwconfig eth0 essid thissucks", nothing happens?
[03:50] <CodenameKT> Carl: can't find directory?
[03:51] <Carl> it says that it cant find it itn fstab or mtab
[03:51] <CookieNinja> do you know whether the access point should be announcing itself, George__ ? i have a linksys one that by default doesn't do so
[03:51] <Dreamglider> when will Dapper Drake be released ?
[03:51] <fangorious> Dreamglider: April
[03:51] <Ainvar> evening all
[03:52] <fangorious> any acpi gurus present?
[03:52] <Carl> ok, I think I just found it
[03:52] <Dreamglider> good morning Ainvar
[03:52] <CodenameKT> Carl: thnx I didn't want to get angry
[03:52] <iratsu> where can i get a vlc 0.8.4a package for ubuntu?
[03:52] <cafuego> !dapper
[03:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[03:52] <Ainvar> morning to you Dreamglider
[03:53] <Ainvar> hehe 8 days before my birthday
[03:53] <CodenameKT> Carl: now try to save a simple txt file to dir and see if it lets u
[03:53] <Mabus06> At who's risk do we use dapper after April 20th?
[03:53] <cafuego> Mabus06: 'whose'
[03:54] <holycow> *cough*
[03:54] <holycow> :)
[03:54] <Carl> access denied
[03:54] <Carl> I can see it now though
[03:54] <CookieNinja> when's dapper due for official release, anyway ?
[03:54] <Mabus06> APril 20th
[03:54] <Dreamglider> iratsu,  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[03:54] <holycow> rofl!
[03:54] <holycow> :)
[03:54] <cafuego> holycow: They won't learn if you don't teach them.
[03:55] <iratsu> Dreamglider: yea i checked there already
[03:55] <fangorious> what's dapper ? ....
[03:55] <holycow> cafuego, i don't disagree :)
[03:55] <CookieNinja> the next version of ubuntu, fangorious
[03:55] <cafuego> !dict dapper
[03:55] <ubotu> Dictionary 'dapper' marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"
[03:55] <George__> back
[03:55] <Carl> I can't save
[03:55] <CodenameKT> Carl: open terminal and do ls -l in / and tell me if the directory /osfileshare whatever is root:root or user:root or what
[03:55] <George__> hey  SIPIOR
[03:55] <fangorious> CookieNinja: I was joking ;) after repeat questions about the release date
[03:55] <George__> YEAH THATS RIGHT
[03:55] <CookieNinja> o
[03:56] <George__> I got some annoying kids over,
[03:56] <sipior> George__: is there a problem?
[03:56] <cafuego> George__: Tell them to not use caps.
[03:56] <Carl> I don't see anything that says osfileshare
[03:56] <George__> yeah
[03:57] <George__> there's a problem
[03:57] <Carl> just some recently used files
[03:57] <George__> I got a f'ing annoying notebook refusing to connect, a bunch of kids buggging me, and my dog barking
[03:57] <CookieNinja> bleh
[03:57] <George__> plus my other f'ing notebook (IBM Z60m) works fine
[03:57] <Nogimics> Anyone use bittornado on ubuntu?
[03:58] <CookieNinja> no Nogimics, i stick with the built in client
[03:58] <Nogimics> Can the built in client be used from the command line?
[03:58] <George__> what WHAT 2 DO 2 Get THIS NETWORK going!
[03:58] <George__> EVEN SHOVING INTO THE notebook wont work, I think DHCP isn't enabled in the computer
[03:58] <nickrud> George__, not to jump in or anything, but your z60m works just 'out of the box'? (looking for some decent coattails)
[03:58] <holycow> Nogimics, used to until breezy came with gtk torrent or whatnot
[03:58] <fangorious> well that's just mean
[03:58] <George__> LOL yeah!
[03:58] <George__> GENTOO THOUGH
[03:58] <CookieNinja> tried a static ip, George__ ?
[03:59] <sipior> George__: do you generally find that acting like a needy twat encourages people to help you much?
[03:59] <Carl> o, i typed it in wrong, it is root
[03:59] <George__> Na
[03:59] <sipior> George__: good luck with yiyr problem
[03:59] <George__> Yeah Thanks
[03:59] <George__> Pain in the *@#8213
[03:59] <George__> u KNOW what i dont understand?
[03:59] <George__> even my eth1 which is the lan connection doesn't even give me a dhcp thing, so how do I enable DHCP in terminal?
[04:00] <sipior> this will take a while
[04:00] <ClayG> are usb device auytomatically mounted ?
[04:00] <George__> lol sipior a while? more like 3 Hours +
[04:00] <Ainvar> holy smokes
[04:00] <George__> u gonna help
[04:00] <George__> cuz  I am angry
[04:00] <CookieNinja> they *should* be, ClayG. what usb device you goy ?
[04:00] <CookieNinja> got
[04:00] <ClayG> cable modem
[04:00] <CookieNinja> o
[04:00] <Ainvar> I feel cheated
[04:00] <George__> dont need someone bit'in me
[04:00] <George__> I FEEL CHEATED 2
[04:01] <fangorious> ClayG: just curious, do you not have an ethernet card?
[04:01] <CookieNinja> pass on that, ClayG. can't you get one with an ethernet port ?
[04:01] <inc|freaky> hi all, im trying to boot from the kubuntu live CD, but it hangs when trying to start the hotplug subsystem - how can i fix that?
[04:01] <Ainvar> on my dell i6000 with an ati card compared to the m70 with the nvidia card is on opposite ends of the scale
[04:01] <nickrud> George__, angry at who?  I figured out
[04:03] <geoffrian> Hello my fellow Ubuntu buddies.
[04:03] <bshumate> Angel-SL: use an alias in ~/.bashrc like alias gcc=gcc-3.4
[04:03] <Krhis> Yes, Angel-SL?
[04:03] <George__> BE HAPPY BUDDY!
[04:03] <Angel-SL> Krhis: bshumate got my answer.
[04:03] <Krhis> Yea, I know. ^^
[04:04] <CookieNinja> Toma-, you remember me asking about my flash problem ? any ideas ?
[04:04] <CookieNinja> i was called monstercookie earlier, Toma-
[04:04] <lostblur> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28635  wow.. *I* am a newbie to linux and i was able to overcome the problems he decsribed in less than an hour of reading ubuntu forum and asking here... so sad that someone in a position to write a well exposed article can completely and unjustly bash such an amazing product
[04:04] <Toma-> CookieNinja: yeh, theres a module that sort of links oss apps (firefox) to alsa. thats what you need :/
[04:04] <jaro> This is more network related problem but I suppose someone could help me with it. I've computer with public ip and another behind the nat running ftp server. I forwarded ftp ports to my ftp server and I can connect it but data connection fails to initiate. I suppose this is because ftp tries to initate connection from within the private network - unsuccesfully though. I'd like to know if there is any way how I can enable the opposite direction of forward (like:
[04:04] <jaro>  send all packets originating from... from what? ... via eth0)
[04:05] <Toma-> CookieNinja: but i cant remember the name! :(
[04:05] <lostblur> that guy with all his claimed background could get it down. kinda pathetic
[04:05] <CookieNinja> aoss Toma- ? because i tried that
[04:05] <Toma-> nah, its a module, not an app
[04:06] <CookieNinja> a kernel module or an alsa module, Toma- ?
[04:06] <Toma-> kernel
[04:06] <Toma-> gimme asec ill do a find
[04:06] <nickrud> lostblur, I haven't read that article, but I can almost certainly tell you his point: it didn't work when he turned it on. A problem with free software, currently
[04:06] <Toma-> CookieNinja: try to load 'snd-pcm-oss'
[04:07] <Toma-> with modprobe
[04:07] <nickrud> s/with/for/
[04:07] <Toma-> its probably not it, but it might be :/
[04:07] <CookieNinja> trying now, Toma-
[04:07] <mikem> Hey
[04:08] <Angel-SL> this is great.
[04:08] <Angel-SL> UnrealIRCD doesnt detect gcc.3.4
[04:08] <puff> How do I disable my screensaver?
[04:08] <Toma-> i bet it doesnt work :/
[04:08] <Angel-SL> How do i revert to gcc3
[04:08] <mikem> I was knowing if you knew if it was posible to get a NetGear Wireless addapter to work
[04:08] <mikem> with ubuntu
[04:08] <Madpilot> puff: probably somewhere in System menu --> Prefs --> Screensaver
[04:08] <Toma-> Angel-SL: compiling from source?
[04:08] <Jared> Does anyone know what repository that the spca5xx webcam driver is on. i just did a fresh install and i can't find it
[04:08] <mikem> wondering
[04:08] <mikem> rather
[04:09] <Angel-SL> Toma-: yes
[04:09] <chet--> hello all, i had wpa2 working with ipw220 on 2.6.12-9, now i upgraded to 2.6.12-10 and eth1 is completely gone.  any ideas?
[04:09] <Angel-SL> Toma-: it wont work with gcc4
[04:09] <Toma-> Angel-SL: 'export CC=gcc-3.4', before configure
[04:09] <nickrud> puff, probably system->pref->screensaver
[04:09] <Madpilot> nickrud: look about a dozen lines up :P
[04:09] <Toma-> Jared: its best to use the source from the website. spca5xx locks up my system hard.
[04:09] <CookieNinja> doesn't work, Toma- :-(
[04:10] <nickrud> I kicked myself 6 lines back ;)
[04:10] <Toma-> CookieNinja: damnit. have you got dmix working?
[04:10] <George__> o my it isn't working
[04:10] <CookieNinja> i forgot to check if it was already loaded, too, Toma-
[04:10] <Jared> it dosen't in mine it worked fine with min plus i'm not good at compiling and stuff like that so do you know which it is.
[04:10] <Toma-> i know u have HW mixing, but oss isnt a friend of mixing
[04:10] <lostblur> nick: nah hes a pc geek like the rest of us, or atleast claism to be with he mention of past experience with other linux and sun OS's. one of his complains is that he couldnt download some componenets from synaptics. without bothering to look into multiverse/universe issue.
[04:10] <CookieNinja> dunno Toma- as >1 play together already thanks to hardware mixing on my audigy2
[04:10] <George__> what should I DO?
[04:10] <Angel-SL> Toma-: great!
[04:10] <bshumate> Angel-SL: you need to set the CC environment variable, using this command : export CC=gcc-3.4
[04:11] <Jared> because i am a webcam freak and i got a real nice creative instant cam and i can't use it without that and before i did a fresh install i had it
[04:11] <mikem> I will reitterate since noone appears to have seen the last time, Is it posible to get a NetGear wireless addapter to work with ubuntu
[04:11] <CookieNinja> >1 apps play together, i meant, Toma- ... it's only flash giving me grief
[04:11] <Toma-> CookieNinja: not 2 oss apps i bet
[04:11] <George__> My wireless inst working
[04:11] <lostblur> his rant is equivalent of installing windows on a box that winxp doenst have all the drievs on the CD for, and then trying to do a windows update without installing a MS validation utility..
[04:11] <Jared> Toma- could you tell me which repository it is in??
[04:11] <George__> LoL
[04:11] <Jared> cause i cna't find it at all
[04:11] <George__> I know how 2 bypass
[04:11] <Toma-> Jared: ...
[04:11] <Toma-> !info spca5xx
[04:11] <Toma-> damn bot
[04:11] <mikem> Does anyone even see what I am typing
[04:11] <holycow> mikem, depends on the netgear adapter ... what model is it? what chipset is it using? google it and you will soon see if its supported under linux
[04:11] <George__> Download lovely firefox
[04:11] <Jared> and i can't find the lime wire package
[04:11] <CookieNinja> i dunno two oss apps to try together, Toma- .... atm i am trying audacity & flash .. or flash and soundrecorder
[04:11] <Toma-> Jared: the drivers come with the kernel
[04:12] <Jared> do you know what it is under?
[04:12] <George__> Could anybody give me a good wireless utility?
[04:12] <mikem> WG111
[04:12] <holycow> mikem,  additionally, if its supported, but ubuntu doesnt have the driver already, one should be able to google instructions on how to build support for it
[04:12] <Toma-> audacity will be using alsa, flash will be using oss :|
[04:12] <Jared> you mean it is already installed Toma-?
[04:12] <CookieNinja> do i still need dmix for playing two oss apps, then, Toma- ?
[04:12] <holycow> mikem, what? you expect me to look it up for you?
[04:12] <holycow> mikem, hahahaha!
[04:12] <Toma-> Jared: yep
[04:12] <holycow> :) really thats rich
[04:12] <Toma-> CookieNinja: oss, i am unsure of.
[04:12] <puff> Madpilot, nickrud:  I checked there first, I don't see anything labeled "Disable screensaver" or the like.  I see "blank after nn minutes" and "cycle after nn minutes" (cycle to a different screen saver image).
[04:12] <George__> WHat software can i use other than iwconfig?
[04:12] <Toma-> id say you need to use aoss, but thats a long shot.
[04:12] <Jared> what is it under in my system cause i need to make it work right ......hm
[04:12] <gwark> hiyas :)   is it possible to use wget to grab a series of webpages ?
[04:12] <mikem> Well, I tried looking for drivers for it, but the only ones I could find were front ends to the windows drivers
[04:12] <George__> aoss?
[04:13] <Toma-> Jared: 'sudo modprobe spca5xx' should load it up fine
[04:13] <holycow> George__, if you are having a hard time connecting to a wireless network, try wifi-radar ... its a gui for your your wireless card
[04:13] <nickrud> puff, under mode, choose disable
[04:13] <puff> Madpilot, nickrud:  ah-hah, found it.  it's one of the display mode dropdown options.
[04:13] <George__> ok thank u
[04:13] <Toma-> George__: no
[04:13] <CookieNinja> i know a game that, last i knew, used oss so i could try flash and that game, which is a penguin themed lemmings clone
[04:13] <puff> nickrud: Thanks.
[04:13] <mikem> one guy actually wrote a utility that was supposed to be able to allow you to run the windows drivers on ubuntu, but that didn't seem like somehting that should work
[04:13] <George__> what?
[04:13] <Toma-> CookieNinja: Pingus :D
[04:13] <Jared> okay thankyou well the one i downloaded was in french is this one?
[04:13] <CookieNinja> that the one, Toma-
[04:13] <George__> well cant dl it
[04:14] <Madpilot> puff: yeah, just found it myself poking around in there :P
[04:14] <George__> not online
[04:14] <Toma-> Jared: the driver is french? ?;/
[04:14] <holycow> mikem, if all you have is windows support then its easier to buy a linux supported card than get a windows one working.  yes there is an ndis wrapper utility you can try that i guess
[04:14] <George__> hmm
[04:14] <CookieNinja> the author was the dude who taught me about oss emulation under alsa and how to enable it to get sound ...quite a while ago
[04:14] <George__> I cant even connect using the onboard LAN
[04:14] <George__> any ideas?
[04:14] <holycow> mikem, i've never used it i find it easier to buy supported cards, but search synaptic for ndiswrappter
[04:14] <Jared> the one i downloaded
[04:14] <holycow> ndiswrapper even
[04:14] <Jared> heh
[04:14] <George__> ok
[04:14] <Jared> sorta annoying
[04:15] <mikem> Then thats probably what I am going to do,
[04:15] <holycow> George__, onboard lan? wtf? is your card supported?
[04:15] <Toma-> ndisgtk is an awesome tool for ndiswrapper u should all look at! :O
[04:15] <mikem> Well, I guess I finally found a use for that 150 dollars worth of christmas money
[04:15] <George__> What ? IT's a IBM R40
[04:15] <George__> Lan, Modem, Wireless all detected
[04:15] <Toma-> click click click install of ndiswrapper + drivers. <3
[04:15] <George__> Doesn't seem 2 want (wireless, lan, etc) to connect to anything
[04:15] <holycow> George__, reinstall?
[04:15] <chet--> is dapper flight2 the latest? i read ipw2200 and wpa work well in dapper?
[04:16] <George__> I did
[04:16] <holycow> George__, wow
[04:16] <Toma-> chet--: flight 2 is the latest
[04:16] <George__> I installed Mandriva, Gentoo, Ubuntu X 2
[04:16] <holycow> George__, you can't ping out?
[04:16] <mikem> George, I am connecting over a network
[04:16] <Toma-> still alpha tho
[04:16] <Toma-> iirc
[04:16] <mikem> right now
[04:16] <George__> HELP MEE pleae
[04:16] <chet--> thanks Toma-, i think i will try it, its just for fun anyhow
[04:16] <George__> I didn't set up dhcp in the setup,
[04:16] <George__> that is the problem?
[04:16] <nickrud> flight 3 is on the wiki, but as of last night, no go from the links
[04:16] <Jared> sudo: moprobe: command not found
[04:16] <Toma-> chet--: if you find any bugs, PLEEEEEEEASE file a bug report!!! :D
[04:16] <Jared> that is the error i got Tome-
[04:17] <chet--> Toma-, you got it
[04:17] <Angel-SL> Jared: modprobe
[04:17] <Toma-> Jared: "modprobe"
[04:17] <Jared> THANKYOU
[04:17] <Toma-> chet--: thx :D~
[04:17] <chet--> should i wait a few days for flight3, ort just do flight2?
[04:17] <Angel-SL> Toma-: beat you
[04:17] <mikem> Well, all I had to do is plug in the machine, then go to system->administration->networking, select the appropiate connection and hit activate
[04:17] <Toma-> that you did.
[04:17] <George__> hmm did u setup dhcp during install?
[04:17] <Jared> what will it do after i type that command?
[04:18] <Toma-> George__: yes
[04:18] <Angel-SL> Jared: what are you trying to do
[04:18] <Toma-> dhcp is setup when you setup the system
[04:18] <holycow> George__, well you need an ip
[04:18] <gwark> i'm attempting to download a page and it's video files ... someone told me its possible to do it with wget .... will someone give me a hand please? much appreciated :)
[04:18] <Toma-> Angel-SL: he's modprobe'ing his spca5xx driver for webcam
[04:18] <George__> I got no ip!
[04:18] <Jared> get my creative instant webcam to work
[04:18] <holycow> either via dhcp or static ... do you have an ip ? are you on the same subment on your network?
[04:18] <George__> yes
[04:18] <jino> hi every one
[04:18] <Jared> then i wil download camorama and start my webcam streaming
[04:18] <George__> Heck I dk
[04:18] <George__> Where 2 find OUT?
[04:18] <jino> i have a problem
[04:18] <George__> I looking at ifconfig, iwconfig, and the gui
[04:19] <Angel-SL> Jared: load it? just modprobe -a modname
[04:19] <George__> IDK help!
[04:19] <Jared> heh......this is chineese to me what do you mean by modname
[04:19] <holycow> George__, when you do ifconfig yourethhere ... what ip address do you get?
[04:19] <holycow> if you get none, you don't have an ip
[04:19] <George__> i dont get a ip
[04:19] <Angel-SL> Jared: module name
[04:19] <jino> when i login to my laptop it doesnt connect to the wifi  , once reactivate it , it does.
[04:19] <George__> i dont even have a IP thing
[04:19] <holycow> George__, what don'tyou try setting up a static ip?
[04:19] <Jared> what, the name of the cam
[04:19] <George__> It's nt static
[04:19] <George__> i made it DHCP
[04:20] <Toma-> Jared: run "sudo modprobe spca5xx"
[04:20] <Jared> is there any other program i have to have for camorama to run.........okay
[04:20] <holycow> so what, make it static to make sure, perhaps yoru dhcp server doesn'twork ... get a ping out first
[04:20] <Jared> already did and it did nothing
[04:20] <Toma-> should be no output from it
[04:20] <George__> static?
[04:20] <holycow> once you can ping then you can resolve everything else
[04:20] <George__> I got firewall
[04:20] <George__> I dk what the ips are 2 be?
[04:20] <Angel-SL> Jared: whats the module name
[04:20] <Toma-> Jared: that means its loaded
[04:20] <Nogimics> Does anyone know with the default installation of ubuntu what the iptable setup is like? for example im having a hard time using a command client for bittornado
[04:20] <holycow> George__, system/admin/networking ... setup static ip first
[04:20] <George__> how
[04:20] <holycow> George__, bring down your firewall (firestarter right?)
[04:21] <holycow> George__, i told you damnit! :)
[04:21] <George__> no no hardware
[04:21] <George__> ipcop
[04:21] <ilba7r> George__, or have ease of mind and install networkmanager
[04:21] <ilba7r> networkmanager!
[04:21] <Toma-> Jared: run "v4l-conf" and some info should popup on what your webcam is
[04:21] <Toma-> unless its v4l2...
[04:21] <Angel-SL> George__: what are you trying to do
[04:21] <George__> get SOME internet in this freaken laptop
[04:21] <George__> I trying with cable now
[04:21] <George__> even cable give me crack
[04:21] <ilba7r> !networkmanager
[04:21] <ubotu> from memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[04:22] <George__> i Cant!
[04:22] <ilba7r> clear
[04:22] <George__> apt-get install networkmanager?
[04:22] <mikem> George first go to system/admin/networking, under connections, select the appropiate connection type, click properties to make sure everything is correct, then close properties, and click activate
[04:22] <Boelcke> Ah, you folks are talking networking.  Help!  My ubuntu installation used to see my shared windows folders (another machine on my network) under places, network servers.  Now it's gone.
[04:22] <Angel-SL> has anyone here ever Heard Of NDISWRAPPER?
[04:22] <George__> Yeah Did that Mikem
[04:22] <Boelcke> I can ping the IP, and get a response.
[04:22] <mikem> What happened
[04:22] <George__> it says activated
[04:22] <George__> but cant ping nothing ifconfig gives me no ip, subnet etc
[04:22] <Toma-> Angel-SL: is that like, some fort of country or something? ;)
[04:22] <ilba7r> george disable fire wall
[04:22] <Toma-> *fort=sort
[04:22] <bshumate> !tell Angel-SL about ndiswrapper
[04:22] <Jared> Toma- camorama froze up when i tried to use it
[04:22] <mikem> if you don't have an IP you shouldn't be able to connect at all
[04:23] <Jared> my whole computer did
[04:23] <Angel-SL> bshumate: i know about it.
[04:23] <George__> I cant
[04:23] <holycow> George__, does your router only accept access from certain mac addresses maybe?
[04:23] <cafuego> !info scribus dapper
[04:23] <ubotu> scribus: (Open Source Desktop Publishing), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 4836 kB, Installed size: 14748 kB
[04:23] <George__> no,
[04:23] <Angel-SL> bshumate:thank you.
[04:23] <Toma-> Jared: thats because the spca5xx drivers in ubuntu are BROKEN!
[04:23] <ilba7r> George__, check /etc/network/interfaces. make sure you have of the wireless and ethernet with auto
[04:23] <George__> It's a Linksys Wireless W SOmething or another
[04:23] <George__> If I kill firewall, I kill my VPN, VOIP, FTP, and HTTP servers
[04:23] <George__> EEKK
[04:23] <Angel-SL> bshumate: you got my pm blocker to block ubotu.
[04:23] <amicrawler> what is the ubuntu src website or repostitory
[04:23] <mikem> Listen, I am a newbe at linux, but I am prety well versed in this
[04:23] <holycow> well then, i think thats your problem right there
[04:23] <ilba7r> George__, sometimes both eth and wirless are activated in this case network will not work
[04:24] <Jared> no.....before camorama always froze my computer anyway........so........ugh i found the package the other day before i did this and now i can't fin the dadgum thing it was in french
[04:24] <George__> eth1 is killed
[04:24] <ilba7r> George__, at least make sure the firewall is set to use the right network device
[04:24] <George__> it all is
[04:24] <amicrawler> hello
[04:24] <Jared> is there anything other that camorama needs to run?
[04:24] <amicrawler> need help plez
[04:24] <mikem> George, what firewall are you using anyway
[04:24] <George__> IPCOP
[04:24] <Toma-> Jared: follow this howto, and it'll work perfect. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284
[04:24] <mikem> Ok fine
[04:24] <Jared> okay thankkyou
[04:24] <George__> and port sinner
[04:24] <Toma-> Jared: however, use the updated drivers from the website
[04:25] <amicrawler> what is the apt-get command ?
[04:25] <mikem> YOU ARE USING 2 FIREWALLS
[04:25] <mikem> ?!
[04:25] <George__> yes.. and no
[04:25] <mikem> ok?
[04:25] <George__> not 2 firewalls
[04:25] <Jared> is there a way to tell if a certain cam is supported by that driver.
[04:25] <amicrawler> mikem i use 3 firewalls
[04:25] <George__> just other 1 makes sure ports are closed down for good
[04:25] <Toma-> Jared: yep. (also, looks like the howto has the updated driver on it anyway)
[04:26] <George__> This has 2 be installation fault
[04:26] <Angel-SL> amicrawler: apt-get = apt.
[04:26] <Nogimics> Does anyone know with the default installation of ubuntu what the iptable setup is like? for example im having a hard time using a command client for bittornado keep getting tracker connecting error
[04:26] <holycow> George__, i don't think so, i think yoru firewalls are misconfigured
[04:26] <George__> I do not get at all any ip, subnet mask nothing in ipcop
[04:26] <Angel-SL> !tell amicrawler about apt
[04:26] <Jared> heh thats nice
[04:26] <George__> no way
[04:26] <amicrawler> so doi do a apt-get then the pkg i want
[04:26] <mikem> I just had a case of de ja vu
[04:26] <Toma-> Jared: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[04:26] <nickrud> Nogimics, the default iptables is allow anything
[04:26] <Jared> oh i have already been there.okay it is supported
[04:26] <Angel-SL> amicrawler: apt-get install package.
[04:26] <George__> IBM z60m has Gentoo and Ifconfig gives me even when wireless anit working ip and submask
[04:26] <Nogimics> Nickrud thanks for your reply
[04:27] <Jared> yeah Toma- camorama has always froze up my computer
[04:27] <George__> This is giving me no ip subnet
[04:27] <Nogimics> Wonder why my torrent is not connecting then :(
[04:27] <nickrud> Nogimics, sudo iptables -L shows what's current
[04:27] <George__> nada
[04:27] <George__> D
[04:27] <George__> opps
[04:27] <George__> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm what should i try?????
[04:27] <Toma-> Jared: i had the same problem. updating the driver makes it all great. also, the newer driver makes MSN webcam chat on amsn run awesome :D
[04:27] <George__> reinstall?
[04:27] <holycow> George__, another distro?
[04:28] <George__> hellz no
[04:28] <Toma-> George__: try not being a pin in here
[04:28] <Toma-> *pain
[04:28] <George__> Pain?
[04:28] <Toma-> i think about 3 people have told you how to fix it so far right?
[04:28] <George__> I can see the laptop wireless leds going off but no internet
[04:28] <George__> I TRIED
[04:28] <mikem> Hey george, if you are looking for distributions, the next best thing to ubuntu in my oppinion is called MEPIS
[04:28] <ilba7r> Toma-, does amsn support audio chat. I could not manage to find how to work it so was wondering if it has the support or nto
[04:28] <Strat> Hello all - any sound card experts out here tonight?
[04:29] <Toma-> ilba7r: dont think so...
[04:29] <George__> what the hellz is wrong with this! I See the Laptop saying WIRELSS CONEECCTED
[04:29] <Jared> okay that is kewl well i can't wait to get it running, i get on this website it is kewl cause i can turn off some ppls lights they have a script setup with the x module applaince thing and i am planning to save up and do that so i want to get my webcam working before long so thanks muches..............heh
[04:29] <CookieNinja> any other ideas, Toma- ? I'm just browsing for some more atm but still stuck :s
[04:29] <ilba7r> Toma-,  i suspected that thanx
[04:29] <George__> WELL everybody THANKS
[04:29] <mikem> George, if you don't have a connection, how is it you can talk to us anyway
[04:29] <Toma-> George__: you know what all your settinsg should be?
[04:29] <George__> LOL
[04:29] <George__> i said
[04:29] <George__> I have a IBM Z60m and A IBM R40
[04:30] <George__> IBM Z60m I'm Using
[04:30] <George__> I also have a desktop
[04:30] <George__> Duh...
[04:30] <Jared> i think i will hang around in here for a while in case i need some more help on anything, its very helpful see Toma- i am eleven years old and i am still getting used to linux and ubuntu has been a great one to start with and i think i will stick with it
[04:30] <Toma-> !sentences
[04:30] <mikem> O I see, two computers, man I am really not on the ball tonight
[04:30] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Toma-
[04:30] <George__> Mikem I got more than 3
[04:30] <Agamotto> An eleven year-old that can speak with alacrity... most imrpessive
[04:30] <bshumate> !enter
[04:30] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:30] <Toma-> Jared: hehe cool. i gotta go out soon, so ill only be here another few minutes
[04:30] <mikem> We got like 6 or 7 computers in our house
[04:31] <Strat> If no experts in sound cards - can anyone explain the basics to me?
[04:31] <Toma-> George__: that lecture ubotu posted is for you.
[04:31] <Jared> i am a fast typer too i am proud of making myself learn how to type
[04:31] <George__> I got IPCOP, Port snipper, asteriks, samba, dad, sis, mom, me pcs, notebook x 2
[04:31] <kameron> is there a command to tell what repo a package is located within?
[04:31] <George__> my ibm r40 hates me selling this damn thing
[04:31] <Eleaf> lol
[04:31] <Jared> when should the final version of dapper be released?
[04:31] <Eleaf> Jared, you should make them be tomorrow
[04:31] <Madpilot> Jared: April 2006 some time
[04:31] <Eleaf> lol
[04:31] <George__> really should, couldn't get gentoo to work cuz it dont detect a Radeon M6
[04:32] <mikem> Sounds like my desktop, the ATI Video drivers are always crashing at random, drives me crazy
[04:32] <Agamotto> jared:  It will serve you very well in your future, even more if you use an ergonomic keyboard... piano strength training without the carpal tunnel :)
[04:32] <George__> ati sucks
[04:32] <mikem> YOu said it
[04:32] <mikem> But my dad insists I use it
[04:32] <George__> but that's like a lie, cuz i did buy a X600 notebook
[04:32] <Jared> i play pianol, by ear mostly
[04:32] <Agamotto> Ahhh, that would explain your typing as well
[04:32] <mikem> I play piano to
[04:32] <mikem> I am also a songwriter
[04:32] <George__> Reinstall notebook? I play drums!
[04:33] <Jared> i am fast too and i can talk and look away from the keyboard while doing that stuff and i got a nice i maching wireless key board and mouse so i like that.
[04:33] <bradley_> help! my network was working fine all of a sudden i'm not getting out on the net... i'm behind a router and all other comps work fine...
[04:33] <nickrud> ahuman01, a reasonable response, George__
[04:33] <req> Just a question from a newbie.. I installed ubuntu for the first time a while ago but it was an old version.Trying to update I managed to brake it. Can I just pop the new version cd in and install over this one so that my files stay intact? That seems to be the easiest way
[04:33] <mikem> Did you try rebooting
[04:33] <Strat> Anyone know how to troubleshoot a sound card on Breezy Ubuntu?
[04:33] <nickrud> ahuman01, sorry one more time
[04:33] <George__> lol countless imes
[04:34] <holycow> Jared, how did you get to installing ubuntu? you found it on the net and decided to what? you removed windows from your box?
[04:34] <mikem> Anyone here into programming
[04:34] <Agamotto> req:  It can't truly hurt anything
[04:34] <mikem> ?
[04:34] <Jared> mikem i play trombone in the band i wont top mucisian out of the whole 6th grade band
[04:34] <George__> Ok, I gonna reinstall
[04:34] <Jared> large band
[04:34] <Agamotto> A clean install might be a better option.  With the previous install, did you make a /home partition?
[04:34] <mikem> I played marimba in the marching band
[04:35] <Toma-> Jared: im a music teacher :)
[04:35] <Madpilot> req: did you set up a seperate partition for your home directory? If so, reinstalling won't hurt your own files
[04:35] <Strat> Looks like its back to Windoze.  Third try at Linux - still can't get all periphs to work.  Damn frustrating...
[04:35] <bradley_> anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot a networking problem? ;)
[04:35] <Mabus06> CAPS ARE KIND OF ANNOYING GEORGE
[04:35] <req> I don't think I did :& but it's not that serious
[04:35] <Toma-> Strat: linux isnt for defeatists :(
[04:35] <mikem> I don't know what strat is talking about, Linux is way better than windows
[04:35] <Madpilot> Mabus06: too late, he's gone :P
[04:35] <Agamotto> Mabus06:  Chalk it up to enthusiasm
[04:35] <holycow> Mabus06, so was he
[04:35] <holycow> heh
[04:36] <req> I'll try to keep an eye on making /home into it's own partition next time I install
[04:36] <Mabus06> lol
[04:36] <Strat> If Linux is better, how the hell does one get the sound card to work?
[04:36] <Strat> It is driving me CRAZY!
[04:36] <holycow> req, heh you know having home on another partition saved me a few times now
[04:36] <Toma->  /home on its own partion is the greatest thing evar
[04:36] <mikem> The only trouble I had with linux was picking a distribution
[04:36] <Strat> Just works under windoze
[04:36] <Jared> holycow, I had heard good things about linux, almost went with fc3 (fedora core 3 then had a computer mishap on my moms and i had a copy of damn small linux i sorta downloaded a bad versioni of ubuntu and though it was a live cd , then i wasn't that educated in linux as i am now, so i used dsl for a while and hated it but knew other linux would be better so i set out to find more linux that was better than fc3 and i did it was called ubuntu , heh
[04:36] <ilba7r> Strat, did you try the web forums?
[04:36] <ilba7r> !sound
[04:36] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:36] <Agamotto> Strat:  Please be more specific - what sound card with which distro?
[04:36] <ilba7r> !help
[04:36] <Strat> yup, they sent me here
[04:37] <holycow> Strat, generally one makes sure the hardware is supported under linux before instaling, otherwise it gets wacky ... what kind of sound card do you have?
[04:37] <Jared> in linux i like to use the newest, yet most stable distro
[04:37] <leonardo> !sound
[04:37] <req> Strat: I had a problem with digital/analog output being fcked somehow. I have audigy 2 and all I did was upadate alsamixer and try everything. There was a forum post that I found googling for something like "ubuntu audigy 2" or something
[04:37] <Strat> I am using breezy.  Have an old dell with a Cirrus Logic CS4610/11
[04:37] <jino> Somebody please help !
[04:37] <Agamotto> Hmmmm, standard sound chip
[04:37] <Strat> Accordning to ALSA, it is supported
[04:37] <Jared> that is why i was asking about dapper cause i will upgrade to it the day that it comes out "Stabily" and that will be good i love linux
[04:37] <holycow> Jared, very cool dude, welcome, have fun.  looks like you have already tried a number of distros, thats good
[04:37] <mikem> Thats what we are here for
[04:37] <Toma-> Strat: what does "lspci | grep audio" return?
[04:38] <jino> My laptop doesnt connect to wifi initally..
[04:38] <Agamotto> Strat:  No audio at all?
[04:38] <leonardo> same here
[04:38] <jino> later it does when re activated
[04:38] <leonardo> sorry hi all
[04:38] <Agamotto> jino:  That is no so unusual.... tell us more
[04:38] <Strat> lspci returns: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:38] <ubulogger> hey i am in the middle of a ubuntu installation and there is an error with grub
[04:38] <jino> Agamotto : i updated to new 5.10 version
[04:39] <mikem> If theres an error with grub, generally you should reinstall it
[04:39] <Jared> if i can get my cam to work and find a good program to stream audio i will have completely dump windows
[04:39] <mikem> grub is the boot strapper that launches the OS
[04:39] <holycow> bbl
[04:39] <jino> initially everything worked well ..Now i my pc when started connects to the wifi
[04:39] <ubulogger> mikem, i tried to reinstall it again
[04:39] <mikem> and?
[04:39] <jino> but doesnt bring me the we pages
[04:39] <Strat> The sound icon shows audio muted - if I try to turn in on I get an error that it can't find the device
[04:39] <ubulogger> (the whole ubuntu, not just grub
[04:39] <mikem> that has nothing to do with your grub problem
[04:39] <Goldfisch> Jared: Have you tried icecasting? https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/Icecast
[04:40] <mikem> you just need to reestablish your connection
[04:40] <Jared> see i don't get allowance i have a poor family and see i get really good stuff for christmas so i as for ONE expensive thing and that is what i get and i get two really expensive gifts cause my parents are divorced so  like i was saying i don't get an allowance so i like the free stuff, i am going to try ice cast
[04:40] <jino> Agamotto : the browser says connecting...and nothing works untill i reactivate my wifi card
[04:40] <Strat> Error I get is: No volume control elements and / or devices found
[04:40] <mikem> Then reactivate your wifi card
[04:41] <Matthew_W> Hello, I have a little problem... I need to know what the OPTION to put in the etc/X11/xorg.conf file under DEVICE is to make it force DVI, because... xorg kills my monitor.
[04:41] <Toma-> Strat: open up a terminal, and run alsamixer. what does that show? a mixer?
[04:41] <ubulogger> mike do you know how to fix it?  i was thinking that i could just make a grub 3.5 boot disk but i am in the middle of the ubuntu installation
[04:41] <ubulogger> mikem,
[04:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: I got your message - awesome!
[04:41] <Strat> ok, this is where it starts to drive me crazy - alsamixer isn't there
[04:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (a bit late o_O)
[04:41] <Toma-> oh?
[04:41] <Jared> see no one in my family know how to use linux so my cousins can't get on my comptuer and get me viruses, plus there are a lot less viruses for linux and no spywear, i like that and i don't have to let my cousins on my computer so heh, plus i am a ham radio operator, is anyone in here farmiliar with ham radio?
[04:41] <Toma-> my.
[04:42] <Goldfisch> Jared: I'm a ham
[04:42] <ubulogger> mikem, any ideas
[04:42] <Agamotto> jared:  For various bits of kit, check out your local Goodwill and Salvation Army stores... you might be amazed at what you can find.  There is also a group called Freecycle that has local groups across the country that trade things for free
[04:42] <Strat> brand new install - only thing I have done is install the WMV support drivers
[04:42] <req> it's updating time :) thanks for your help
[04:42] <mikem> If you are in the middle of the installation, I would really recomend just turning the machine off, and starting from scratch
[04:42] <Strat> the error I get when I run alsamixer: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:42] <Toma-> Strat: ok, run "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils"
[04:42] <Toma-> ahh ok
[04:42] <Jared> goldfisch what class
[04:43] <ubulogger> mikem, i allready did that, is there a way to fix it so i can boot up windows
[04:43] <Agamotto> That could be most of the problem
[04:43] <Jared> i am a tech and i tried to get my general today but missed it by three and i am going to take it the first sunday of next month
[04:43] <Toma-> Strat: i gtg, band rehersal :/ good luck with it.
[04:43] <mikem> Ooh
[04:43] <mikem> Well, can you get into windows
[04:43] <mikem> ?
[04:43] <Strat> says its already there: alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[04:43] <Strat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:43] <Agamotto> hrm
[04:43] <Goldfisch> Strat: Do you have alsa-utils installed? dpkg -l | grep alsa
[04:43] <ubulogger> there is some kind of error with the hard drive i guess
[04:43] <ubulogger> mikem, no
[04:43] <Strat> Thanks Toma - sorry to have you go
[04:43] <Jared> Goldfisch i pmed you did it show up?
[04:43] <ubulogger> no windows
[04:44] <Goldfisch> Jared: Huh?
[04:44] <ubulogger> i am trying to get htis set up for a buddy of mine
[04:44] <Matthew_W> I need this quickly, I don't mean to rush, but xorg keeps restarting itself and I don't know how to stop it
[04:44] <Jared> goldfisch i sent you a private message
[04:44] <amicrawler> were do i get the depostitorys for xine and xxms and etc  like suse has
[04:44] <mikem> I am going to have to ask you if you were backed up before started the ubuntu instalation
[04:44] <Korupt> Is there _any_ way in GNOME (besides a farking text editor) to modify the color scheme?
[04:44] <Madpilot> amicrawler: Universe & Multiverse repos
[04:45] <DShepherd> hey anyone upgraded to dapper yet?
[04:45] <Madpilot> !tell amicrawler about repos
[04:45] <Goldfisch> Jared: I didn't appear to get it. Are you registered on freenode? YOu can't unless you are.
[04:45] <mikem> You could try going into the BIOS to see if you the loader for windows is still there
[04:45] <nickrud> Matthew_W, X wil stop restarting itself, and offer some error messages.
[04:45] <ilba7r> Korupt, did you try the theme manager
[04:45] <mikem> but I really doubt it will be
[04:45] <ubulogger> mikem, pretty much,
[04:45] <Jared> ah....crap how do you register?
[04:45] <Matthew_W> nickrud; it's restarted 48 times.
[04:45] <Goldfisch> !register
[04:45] <ubotu> well, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[04:45] <Strat> Goldfisch - says alsa-base, utils, gstreamer0.8-also, libesd-alsa0 and plugins are there
[04:45] <Matthew_W> 49
[04:45] <nickrud> Matthew_W, that's a pretty specific count
[04:45] <Korupt> ilba7r: all it has is the predefined color schemes
[04:45] <Jared> okay yall my new nick will be ki4ikl           that is my call sign
[04:45] <ubulogger> mikem,  where would that be?
[04:46] <kameron> wtf, has anyone played a video in mplayer? how do you get it full screen?
[04:46] <ubulogger> i have never seen a loader in a bios
[04:46] <mikem> Not sure,
[04:46] <Matthew_W> nickrud; it's giving me an error message that tells me that..
[04:46] <Goldfisch> Strat: My system has /usr/bin/alsamixer. You are saying you don't have that?
[04:46] <Madpilot> Korupt: extra themes are really easy to install
[04:46] <ilba7r> korupt you need to install some than. search for gtk2-theme in synaptic
[04:46] <Matthew_W> "The xerver has restarted itself XX times, and ... " and I can't read it, because then it restarts.
[04:46] <ubulogger> kameron, you need to type -zoom 3 owr whatever and then you can resize it all you wnat
[04:46] <nickrud> Matthew_W, hit ctl-alt-backspace. see what happens
[04:46] <ubulogger> mikem, is the windows gone?
[04:46] <Matthew_W> nickrud; anyway, there's some option to add to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I don't know what it is, it's under device.
[04:46] <Matthew_W> nickrud; that's what I'm doing.
[04:46] <ubulogger> it is windows 98
[04:46] <mikem> Unfortunately I believe so
[04:47] <Goldfisch> Matthew_W: If you can ssh into the box, examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:47] <ubulogger> ohhwell
[04:47] <ilba7r> Korupt, and if you stilll do not like what you see google on gnome-themes and install what you like :)
[04:47] <Strat> no - it is there - i read the error message wrong - it says it cant run: ie: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:47] <mikem> Id just wipe the drives, create two partitions, one for windows, the other for ubuntu
[04:47] <nickrud> Matthew_W, um, Goldfisch is right about /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and if the ssh part of his post really matters ...
[04:47] <mikem> and go from there
[04:48] <Strat> the error says no file or directory - not that alsamixer isn't there...
[04:48] <mikem> Do you have partitioning software
[04:48] <Eleaf> what will happen if I put an apg 1x card in an 8x slot? = p lol
[04:48] <ki4ikl> did you get it this time Goldfisch i registered
[04:48] <Matthew_W> nickrud; let me look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <DShepherd> hey anyone upgraded to dapper yet?
[04:49] <nickrud> Matthew_W, that, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf, post those on pastebin
[04:49] <alberkman> 1
[04:49] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  It should work, just not at 8X whatever that stands for these days.    But I don't know if this motherboard does anything other than .8 and can adjust to 1.5 if needed...
[04:50] <mikem> I hope my ubuntu CDs arive soon.
[04:50] <Agamotto> Dshepherd:  Why would you upgrade to a beta version?  What, you like crashing? giggle
[04:50] <Matthew_W> nickrud; I wouldn't be able to get to pastebin, I went through this once before. X_X
[04:50] <Korupt> ilba7r, no such package
[04:50] <Matthew_W> nickrud; it's just some simple option I forget X_X
[04:50] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  Hmmmm, I would find your mobo specs online and double check
[04:50] <ilba7r> korupt ok wait
[04:50] <Varanger> hi!
[04:50] <Eleaf> Agamotto, well it doesn't really say.
[04:50] <Varanger> what is gnome's program for k3b ?
[04:50] <nickrud> Matthew_W, can you dual boot?
[04:50] <Eleaf> Varanger, I just use k3b anyways
[04:50] <BxL> Varanger, GnomeBaker
[04:51] <Eleaf> Agamotto, hmmmmmmmmm
[04:51] <Matthew_W> nickrud; nope.
[04:51] <Varanger> Thanks BxL
[04:51] <Matthew_W> nickrud; not unless I format everything.
[04:51] <Varanger> Thanks Eleaf
[04:51] <Matthew_W> nickrud; I wish I could remember this, it's just some OPTION line to add, because I'm using DVI and it's sending it through the VGA port.
[04:51] <Strat> Goldfisch: the actual error is: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:52] <DShepherd> Agamotto: sometimes.. :)
[04:52] <nickrud> Matthew_W, there's a script out there that will post a file to pastebin. Maybe someone here knows it.
[04:52] <Goldfisch> Strat: I have typed that in to Google.com to see if anyone else has had a similar problem.
[04:52] <Eleaf> Agamotto, well.  If it didn't support older 3.5 volt cards.  Would the card just not work and the end.  Or would it cause damage to the motherboard?
[04:53] <ilba7r> Korupt, sorry the right name is gtk2-engines there are number you can try and than use what you prefer. look at this site too to see how the theme might look like http://www.gnome-look.org/
[04:53] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  Most of the time, it would just not work, but I know that some MSI mobos are very sensitive to voltage changes....
[04:53] <Eleaf> I have a DFI
[04:53] <ilba7r> Korupt, look at this link too http://art.gnome.org/
[04:54] <Eleaf> Agamotto, I can wait.  I have a 6200 on the way to me.  But I can't use my new motherboard/cpu/ram untill I get that.  And I won't get that till next week but I won't be here next week... lol
[04:54] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  Figures, doesn't it?
[04:55] <Eleaf> Agamotto, lol
[04:56] <amicrawler> how to install nvidia drivers and make them work
[04:56] <myke> hey is there a news group reader for linux?
[04:56] <nickrud> !nvidia
[04:56] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:56] <Agamotto> amicrawler:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config
[04:57] <amicrawler> ok then what after that ?
[04:57] <nickrud> amicrawler, the above is supposed to be good advice
[04:57] <Goldfisch> Strat: I did some poking around. NOthing real conclusive. All I can say is, you need to do the same. That is what google is there to help you with.
[04:57] <amicrawler> don't i need to config them?
[04:58] <Strat> Goldfisch - I know.  I have spent four hours on this.
[04:58] <Agamotto> In a terminal, type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:58] <Agamotto> That should do the trick after an X reset
[04:58] <Goldfisch> Strat: Kind of weird, but sometimes you need to walk away from tough problems and stop thinking about them. Then come back and attack them the next day. Sometimes it makes the answer fall right in front of you. :)
[04:58] <Strat> There is no clear guidance.  Not even any vuage guidance.  Every distro is different, yada, yada, yada.  Really frustrating.
[04:58] <Strat> did that too
[04:59] <s_spiff> :P
[04:59] <amicrawler> Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[04:59] <amicrawler> amicrawler@ubuntu:~$
[04:59] <Agamotto> amicrawler:  With most distros, the nvidia drivers configure themselves
[04:59] <Strat> I am stuck.   I'm having problems with alsamixer
[05:00] <Agamotto> amicrawler:  Fire up Synaptic, and search for nvidia, then install the packages.  This will take care of just about everything for you
[05:00] <s_spiff>  in the forums?
[05:00] <amicrawler> Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[05:00] <ppcguy> hey all running 5.10. Have cable internet and went out and bought a linksys befsr41 cable/dsl router.  Looked @ the forum and wiki still nothing. Any ideas?
[05:00] <s_spiff> amicrawler, did you search in Synaptic?
[05:00] <nickrud> tim__, on the surface? not a lot. Both work pretty well
[05:01] <amicrawler> sorry i'm new to deb
[05:01] <CarlFK> amicrawler: the name of the package is nvidia-settings
[05:01] <Strat> Well, I have twenty years of programming, wrote a massive software system, have worked with PCs since they were invented, built one in 1977, wrote the modem drivers, have installed enterprise networks, etc.  Don't know what other qualifications I need.
[05:01] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/nvidia-settings
[05:01] <amicrawler> found no resaluts
[05:01] <s_spiff> ppcguy, I may be able to help, if you're using pppoe
[05:01] <Strat> Just don't know how to get Breezy's sound system to work.
[05:01] <ppcguy> nope dhcp
[05:02] <CarlFK> Strat: so write a sound card driver ;)
[05:02] <s_spiff> ouu ok, nopes then, sorry
[05:02] <BxL> Strat, well, why don't you write your sound card driver
[05:02] <s_spiff> write??
[05:02] <BxL> hehe
[05:02] <Strat> Time vs value.
[05:02] <Goldfisch> Strat: Uhh...patience? Sounds cheesy, I know. :p
[05:02] <ryan76> all the instructions I can find on alsa say you need alsamixer, i install it then I get:   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:02] <CarlFK> wez just kidding
[05:02] <s_spiff> how to do that?
[05:02] <jaro> Strat - i didn't read what your problem was, can you please tell me again?
[05:03] <s_spiff> CarlFK, , but in linux you can actually do it right?
[05:03] <bradley_> arrggg... i can't get my inet to work... i have cable and all other comps on the same router work... just one wont, and for no apparent reason
[05:03] <bradley_> i have checked the network settings in system admin networks
[05:03] <bradley_> but to no avail
[05:03] <amicrawler> pice of shit  ubuntu
[05:03] <CarlFK> s_spiff: kinda - the hard part is getting good specs from the hardware (soundcard) manufacture
[05:04] <amicrawler> dam restrictive arkhives
[05:04] <s_spiff> bradley_, did you ask this on 'Networking' on forums, I think you'll get a more in detail reply there.
[05:04] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[05:04] <Kr0ntab> ppcguy, what router did you have before this one....
[05:04] <jaro> I also had some difficulties with it because I did have two soundcard and intergrated (the poor one) was selected as default upon every reboot. It sucked. I disabled the card ;-/ Quite a hack.
[05:04] <johndarkhorse> amicrawler: please respect us with your language choices
[05:04] <cdubya> bradley_, are you getting a good IP?
[05:04] <bradley_> s_spiff i shall
[05:04] <jaro> (hack = no real solution)
[05:04] <bradley_> cdubya: what do you mean?
[05:04] <Strat> Thanks jaro - Cirrus Logic SoundFusion CS4610/11 won't work with Breezy. Shows up ok in lspci.  Error when I try to use it
[05:04] <amicrawler> will some body pm  me
[05:04] <bradley_> cdubya: how do i check that?
[05:04] <cdubya> bradley_, ifconfig
[05:05] <bradley_> cdubya: yes i'm getting the ip given by the router...
[05:05] <Strat> Jaro - error shows up when I try to unmute - No volume control elements and / or devices found
[05:05] <cdubya> and you're sure it's a good IP in the same subnet, yes?
[05:05] <jaro> bradley_: With inet I had some problems with inet6 being enabled by default. It caused problems in ipv4 networks somehow ;-/
[05:06] <Strat> Jaro also - alsamixer error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:06] <bradley_> cdubya: everything seems to be set up correctly... no settings have been changed that i know off, one night it was working fine, the next morning nothing...
[05:06] <bradley_> i can ping things from the terminal but nothing else....
[05:06] <bradley_> very strange
[05:06] <cdubya> bradley_, can you ping outside the router?
[05:06] <bradley_> yes
[05:06] <bradley_> i can ping google for example
[05:06] <jaro> Strat: and driver for that card is loaded i suppose.
[05:06] <cdubya> bradley_, dns?
[05:07] <blood> can some1 tell me how to get the files from here http://cvs.transgaming.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/winex/ to download?
[05:07] <bradley_> cdubya: sorry... n00b here... dns?
[05:07] <Strat> jaro - how do I know for sure?
[05:07] <Strat> ALSA pages were confusing to me
[05:07] <jaro> lsmod | grep ... somewhat
[05:07] <cdubya> bradley_, I was thinking you're having DNS issues.
[05:07] <jaro> I don't know what the module is named like :-/
[05:07] <cdubya> bradley_, dns = domain name service
[05:08] <bradley_> gotcha... well i've only dealt with dns when setting up domain names for my sites... i'm new to the networking/server side of things...
[05:08] <cdubya> bradley_, what's your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[05:08] <amicrawler> need help this os is very stupid
[05:08] <Strat> lsmod shows dozens of sound drivers loaded in the mixer, codec, etc - how do I know what I need to be sure it's working
[05:08] <jaro> Did you try hardware detection (I didn't invoke it manually for year so I can hardly remember what is it's name)
[05:08] <Strat> jaro - don't know about hw detect
[05:09] <jaro> Strat: discover
[05:09] <nickrud> amicrawler, you hurt us to the quick.  I know linux can be frustrating, been there done that
[05:09] <ilba7r> amicrawler, suse is also linux they are all linux
[05:09] <amicrawler> yes i know
[05:10] <amicrawler> deb apt-get
[05:10] <ilba7r> amicrawler, now post your question and i am sure someone will help
[05:10] <bradley_> search clspco.adelphia.net | nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> | nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> | nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:10] <s_spiff> amicrawler, I reccoment one thread, read it, its 'Is ubuntu meant for me'
[05:10] <Madpilot> amicrawler: so what're you actually trying to do, aside from offend the channel?
[05:10] <bradley_> that's what it says cdubya
[05:10] <s_spiff> I would reccomend it to anyone and everyone
[05:10] <blood> how do i compile source?
[05:10] <bradley_> the | being line breaks
[05:10] <dooglus> is there a free video editor which can edit .wmv files?
[05:10] <bradley_> does that look correct?
[05:11] <amicrawler> ok  i need a litte help i don;t want to be restrictive on the deb arc
[05:11] <s_spiff>  hey, I want to install oDC, and I have the link, it offeres me, a .exe, a binary, and source.
[05:11] <nickrud> amicrawler, ah, switching to the weird debian naming scheme is trying. I do remember.
[05:11] <s_spiff> What should I download, and how should I install it?
[05:11] <DShepherd> does anyone know how to, if it is possible (even if you can do it dapper), to change the start date of the calendar to another day other than monday.... like sunday
[05:11] <Agamotto> blood:  Go into the source dir, and type config && make && make install
[05:11] <amicrawler> i seem much like windows they will not let you get what ever app you want to get
[05:11] <Goldfisch> s_spiff: Well, a .exe won't help you much in the world of linux.
[05:11] <s_spiff> yeah,
[05:11] <s_spiff>  what about source?
[05:11] <ilba7r> amicrawler, you just need to enable all your repos ok
[05:11] <s_spiff> can i do something with it?
[05:11] <ilba7r> !repos
[05:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:12] <cdubya> bradley_, and the <IP_ADDRESS> is what?
[05:12] <bradley_> i don't know... it's just the third nameserver ip... what should it be?
[05:12] <ilba7r> follow ubotu link. it is not link window some people run servers they do not need any security hazards as such do not need all repos
[05:12] <ilba7r> !restricted
[05:12] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:12] <Madpilot> amicrawler:  there's something over 15,000 files in the full Ubuntu archives, it's not too restrictive... :P
[05:12] <ilba7r> follow ubotu link for property software too
[05:13] <ki4ikl> what was the website to that driver?
[05:13] <amicrawler> i can't get xine to work with my dvd and can't get mp3 to work
[05:13] <s_spiff> anyways, I'm come back later, have to sit to study :P
[05:13] <blood> what is the source dir?
[05:13] <s_spiff> thanks Goldfisch
[05:13] <blood> or where..
[05:13] <s_spiff>  thanks people.
[05:13] <s_spiff>  cya
[05:13] <ilba7r> amicrawler, so most probably you need too look at the restricted link
[05:13] <Madpilot> !mp3
[05:13] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:13] <jaro> Strat: you could use discover --enable-all -v
[05:13] <jaro> this will print out some infomation about what devices you have...
[05:13] <ilba7r> amicrawler, install totem xine after you install w32codec
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> gee years ago it was people fighting to get software working, now its people fighting to get videos and music to play. :P
[05:14] <ilba7r> and all shall be fine
[05:14] <dooglus> is there a free video editor which can edit .wmv files?
[05:14] <amicrawler> no just xine-ut
[05:14] <Agamotto> amichrawler:  That is relatively easy... the codecs are already in .debs for you, so it is a simple matter of fetching them
[05:14] <ilba7r> amicrawler, by the way in suse have you ever been able to run dvd
[05:14] <Agamotto> Dr_Willis:  Much the same on the Windows side as well
[05:14] <amicrawler> yes no problem
[05:14] <jaro> Spif: oh, sorry, no -v but -d
[05:14] <jaro> Strat: ^ for you
[05:14] <Goldfisch> Free video editor editing Windows Movie Version files. That would be a sign of the apocalypse!
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Agamotto,  in windows now a days its "How to i get rid of this spyware..." :)
[05:15] <ilba7r> amicrawler, it is disabled  by default and cause no one sell property driver for linux they wre in delima last time i checked
[05:15] <amicrawler> why ?
[05:15] <Agamotto> Dr_Willis:  I know.  I have had five phone calls this week about the new exploit/worm/whatever...
[05:15] <ilba7r> amicrawler, cause they can not support it officially
[05:15] <amicrawler> i just went to xine and downloaded the rpms and navdvd libs and wa la
[05:16] <amicrawler> i'm not asking them to support it
[05:16] <ilba7r> amicrawler, for encrypted dvd. last suse i treid was 9.2 so perhaps
[05:16] <Eugman> Is it possible to rename a symlink? I want to know so I might be able to have a different name for a folder on my webserver.
[05:16] <ilba7r> !tell amicrawler about restircted
[05:17] <cdubya> Dr_Willis, that's how I got my neighbor on Linux.....:)
[05:17] <ilba7r> !tell amicrawler about restricted format
[05:17] <Goldfisch> Eugman: rm <originalsmylink> ; ln -s <originaldest> <newsymlink>
[05:17] <ilba7r> !restricted
[05:17] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:17] <Goldfisch> Eugman: That should do it in one fell swoop.
[05:17] <jino> where can i change my splas image?
[05:17] <amicrawler> i use suse 10
[05:17] <jaro> good night to everyone (more likely good morning to people in Europe/Prague TZ) Strat: good luck with your sound card
[05:17] <amicrawler> i'm trying deb i heard it was very user friendly
[05:18] <ilba7r> amicrawler open ubotu link and follow the steps and i am sure everything will run fine
[05:18] <mondi> ey anyone here using dapper?
[05:18] <Eugman> that not what I want goldfisch let me explain my self better.
[05:18] <DShepherd> mondi: hey
[05:18] <DShepherd> mondi: you tried the thing? the calendar thing?
[05:18] <Kolya> Hi there
[05:18] <mondi> DShepherd: I did it
[05:18] <amicrawler> what link
[05:19] <ubuntu> hello
[05:19] <Madpilot> amicrawler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:19] <mondi> DShepherd: so the issue with the alarm closing shouldn't be a problem anymore right?
[05:19] <ilba7r> amicrawler, look at the link posted by Madpilot
[05:19] <tim__> im trying to install opera and im getting this error /Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i 8.51-20051114.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[05:19] <tim__> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:19] <Madpilot> amicrawler: also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:19] <DShepherd> mondi: so you were able to change the beginning of the week from monday to sunday?
[05:19] <anavim> is there a wiki for getting a scanner to work, and/or supported scanners for ubuntu?
[05:20] <Eugman> I don't want to change the symlink to something else I just want to to look like it based on the tree structure. So instead of /localhost/reallylongnametotype/ it would look like /localhost/shortname/ . However it would still be getting the files from /reallylongnametotype/.
[05:20] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah
[05:20] <DShepherd> mondi: alarm? what alarm?
[05:20] <Madpilot> tim__: have you got Synaptic running? if so close it.
[05:20] <Goldfisch> tim__: Do you have synaptic running? It locks up other apt-get jobs.
[05:20] <DShepherd> mondi: great!!!
[05:20] <mondi> DShepherd: oh nothing
[05:20] <tim__> yeah synaptec is open
[05:20] <Kolya> I have a question: When I try to uninstall the gnome-games the uninstaller warns me that ubuntu-desktop relies on them...?
[05:20] <tim__> thanks
[05:20] <mondi> DShepherd: I changed it in evolution
[05:20] <Madpilot> Goldfisch: my point, I believe :P
[05:20] <DShepherd> mondi: great!!!
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Kolya,  yes. desktop is a meta-package.. dont worry about it :P
[05:21] <Agamotto> Kolya:  Yes, they depend on each other as a set of packages, don't wory
[05:21] <Agamotto> worry, even
[05:21] <DShepherd> mondi: so what are the visual changes in gnome?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Be happy.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:21] <mondi> DShepherd: nothing extreme
[05:21] <Kolya> Dr_Willis, so I can uninstall the games anyway?
[05:21] <mondi> DShepherd: some minor graphic improvements
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Kolya,  of course :P
[05:21] <ilba7r> kolya you will most probably need ubontu-desktop for upgrading. for it depends on all other packages but does nothing by itself
[05:21] <Eugman> So is the name of a symlink dependant on what it points to?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Eugman,  no.
[05:21] <mondi> DShepherd: it feels like Im using windows xp with the faded background whenever a system question comes up
[05:22] <DShepherd> mondi: is that a good thing or a bad thing?
[05:22] <Eugman> What would the rename command be in terminal?
[05:22] <Madpilot> anavim: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo
[05:22] <dooglus> someone please try playing http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/rattlebag3.smil with mplayer.  does it work for you?
[05:22] <mondi> DShepherd: its a good thing so long as it doesn't affect performance
[05:22] <Kolya> Thank you guys
[05:22] <DShepherd> mondi: and it doesnt.?
[05:22] <dooglus> it tells me "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll".  any idea where I can get the necessary?
[05:22] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah it doesn't in fact its faster than breezy
[05:23] <Goldfisch> Eugman: You must want to use either an alias, or use the rewrite module in apache.
[05:23] <nickrud> dooglus, no, smil will not work with mplayer
[05:23] <DShepherd> mondi: man.. you tempting me to upgrade. stop staying that :)
[05:23] <mondi> DShepherd: and consumes less memore
[05:23] <anavim> nevermind, I just needed to plug in the scanner before running kooka  :P
[05:23] <mondi> DShepherd: faster and less memory with no tweaks
[05:23] <DShepherd> mondi: my fingers are itching
[05:23] <anavim> whoohoo, that was easy  :D
[05:24] <mondi> DShepherd: hehe
[05:24] <nickrud> dooglus, it's a realplayer format that's not much used
[05:24] <dooglus> nickrud: jusy for you, you mean?  or ever?
[05:24] <CookieNinja> dooglus, that's not the url you want to give to mplayer
[05:24] <dooglus> nickrud: what if I was to find the plugins?
[05:24] <mondi> DShepherd: just edit breezy to dapper and the twitch is gone :-)
[05:24] <nickrud> dooglus, I only got realplayer to ever play that stuff
[05:24] <joshua> any links for help configuring a tv in card?
[05:24] <jared> how can I enable the root user to log into gnome from the command prompt?
[05:24] <mondi> DShepherd: though I don't know about todays updates
[05:24] <DShepherd> mondi: that is superb.. so how is firefox 1.5?? intergrtes well
[05:24] <Eugman> Goldfisch: as it stands I put symlinks in /var/www/ and renaming it would be sufficent as long as that doesn't affect it's target.
[05:25] <mondi> DShepherd: I haven't accepted the new updates yet
[05:25] <dooglus> CookieNinja: what is the URL I want to give to mplayer?
[05:25] <CookieNinja> docta_v,  a .smil file is just a txt file telling windows media player where to play the stream from and a bit more information ... like the actual stream you want to play ....
[05:25] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah surprisingly it works better here than on breezy
[05:25] <mondi> DShepherd: strange
[05:25] <Eugman> And since dr.willis says the name isn't dependant I just need to know the terminal command to rename a file.
[05:25] <nickrud> dooglus, if you ever do get it working, fix restricted formats.
[05:26] <DShepherd> mondi: good.... that very good
[05:26] <CookieNinja> assuming you have the right codecs, dooglus ... you want to try this in the shell or give the url in this line to mplayer -> mplayer rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2004/0803/03082004rte-rattlebag.rm
[05:26] <mondi> DShepherd: but I can't get rhythmbox to play anything ...
[05:26] <dooglus> nickrud: I looked inside that file.  it gave a URL.  I downloaded *that* URL and that gave a different URL.  I'm now trying to play that with mplayer
[05:26] <Goldfisch> Eugman: This is alias/follow symlinks I have on my webserver to lead to my wiki website.
[05:26] <Goldfisch> Eugman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6776
[05:26] <dooglus> it's rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2004/0803/03082004rte-rattlebag.rm - can you play that?
[05:26] <mondi> DShepherd: but I can play using other players
[05:26] <CookieNinja> it didn't work here, for me, dooglus ... and it's too late for me try to work it out
[05:27] <blood> whats the first thing i need to learn on linux? and how do i do it...
[05:27] <dooglus> blood: what do you want to use linux for?
[05:27] <DShepherd> mondi: ok..
[05:27] <BxL> blood, leanr the command: man
[05:27] <Agamotto> blood:  Well, let's see, you have installed, you have figured out how to irc....
[05:27] <nickrud> dooglus, sure, you can do that. but only realplayer really recognizes what a smil file is (or also microsoft's player, I've not really used that much)
[05:27] <ki4ikl> can someone give me the link i reviced earlier from the dude abotu the spca5xx driver
[05:27] <Eugman> It already follows symlinks. I need to know how to rename the symlink that is in place.
[05:27] <blood> i new that from windows
[05:27] <Goldfisch> dooglus: I tried, but didn't hear anything. It was mplayer inside firefox.
[05:27] <CookieNinja> .rm is real player afaik ... you might want to try that program dooglus
[05:27] <ki4ikl> wait let me log in as non root
[05:27] <dooglus> nickrud: I just want to play it.  if picking the smil file apart by hand works, that'll do for me
[05:28] <DShepherd> mondi: anything else impressive in dapper other faster and less memory?
[05:28] <joshua> video card configuration is located where ???????????????//
[05:28] <Goldfisch> Eugman: Use what I initially said. Try it. It should work.
[05:28] <nickrud> dooglus, sure.
[05:28] <dooglus> it's very slowly filling a cache: "Cache fill:  3.22% (270336 bytes)   "
[05:28] <DShepherd> mondi: ahhh question.. what;s the device manager like now?
[05:28] <blood> how do i learn the command?
[05:28] <Agamotto> joshua:  etc/X11/Xorg
[05:28] <amicrawler> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:28] <amicrawler>  realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[05:28] <Agamotto> blood:  which command?
[05:29] <joshua> agamotto tv card is in xorg?
[05:29] <amicrawler> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[05:29] <amicrawler>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:29] <blood> all of them
[05:29] <Goldfisch> blood: man man <--- read the man page on using man pages.
[05:29] <blood> it the terminal
[05:29] <blood> in
[05:29] <dooglus> DShepherd: dapper doesn't look much different than breezy from what I can see.  the "there are new updates" popup is prettier, but badly needs antialiasing.  the shutdown dialog has some pretty graphics, but other than that, I've not notice much difference
[05:29] <Agamotto> joshua:  All video is in Xorg
[05:29] <skon> Could anyone think of a reason why my domain name resolution is really slow but my actual download speeds are as they should be? When I switch pages, it takes about 20 seconds to resolve the name, but once it starts loading, it loads almost instantly.
[05:29] <joshua> is xorg THE driver file for both
[05:30] <mondi> DShepherd: I think its the same . but it did detect my webcam automatically
[05:30] <DShepherd> dooglus: yeah that's look.. I didnt expect much visual changes... what does the device manager look like now? device manager in breezy sucked
[05:30] <Agamotto> joshua:  It is the system for both... your tv/tv card would be in the Xorg.conf file usually
[05:30] <dooglus> DShepherd: where's that?
[05:30] <DShepherd> mondi: the same... are you sure..? cause the device manager sucked.. in breezy..
[05:30] <steve44> Goldfisch, man woman  - no manual entry for woman    BAH  thought I had them figured out finally
[05:30] <joshua> what is the bttv file then?
[05:31] <Goldfisch> steve44: I don't think the HDD on your computer has the capacity to store that man page. :)
[05:31] <DShepherd> dooglus: system -> prefs--> Device manager
[05:31] <Agamotto> That may be the entry for your specific tv card
[05:31] <mondi> DShepherd: it shows a tree view of all the devices
[05:31] <dooglus> ok
[05:31] <joshua> I keep reading that I need it to run a tv in the coak of my video card I can't figure out whats going on
[05:31] <dooglus> DShepherd: it's just a big blank white window (!)
[05:31] <Goldfisch> joshua: bttv is a kernel module supporting a particular type of TV tuner cards based on the Brooktree chip.
[05:31] <mondi> DShepherd: and the details of the hardware are on the right pane
[05:31] <DShepherd> mondi: sounds good
[05:31] <rikai-2> does anyone know what ports need to be forward for remote desktop and ssh?
[05:31] <amicrawler> can i use xine and watch my dvd in it with deb ?
[05:31] <mondi> DShepherd: nothing fancy
[05:32] <dooglus> DShepherd: oh, it's slowly drawing itself.  very slowly.
[05:32] <DShepherd> mondi: yeah I know..but does it work?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> amicrawler,  should be able to.
[05:32] <Goldfisch> rikai-2: sshd typically runs on port 22. remote desktop is a fancy wrapper around vnc, which is usually in the 5900 series.
[05:32] <rikai-2> alrighty, thanks. ;)
[05:32] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah though I didn't do anything xcept look around
[05:32] <joshua> My card isn't recognized by ubuntu, I found a refernence to it in bttv.....any ideas on procedures to get it working?
[05:32] <Goldfisch> rikai-2: Just remember, that vnc connections are not secure, unless you tunnel them through ssh.
[05:32] <DShepherd> mondi: what are your machines specs.. tell me what the device manager tells you
[05:33] <DShepherd> dooglus: how slow?
[05:33] <joshua> so i need to modify ubuntu kernel to recognize and utililize my card?
[05:33] <amicrawler> xine comes up as a old xine will not support dvd
[05:33] <mondi> DShepherd: centrino 768 mb ram 32 shared video 40g hdd
[05:33] <apollo2011> has anyone hooked up their Palm via Bluetooth for internet access?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !restrictedformats
[05:33] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:33] <DShepherd> mondi: ahhh 769 mb ramm <- nice
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> read there yet amicrawler ?
[05:34] <DShepherd> dooglus: what is your hardware specs
[05:34] <DShepherd> ?
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: it took about 5 seconds before anything appeared.  then a big white empty window took about 10 or 15 seconds before anything appeared.  then it all appeared at once, but it doesn't know anything about my system
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: I'm using a 2.2GHz Intel P4 laptop
[05:34] <DShepherd> dooglus: memory?
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: and here's what device manager knows about the Intel P4: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/DeviceManager.png
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: can't remember.  356Mb or something
[05:34] <DShepherd> k
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: funny number
[05:35] <Eugman> Sorry if I'm being annoying but wouldn't your initial advice jjust make a new symlink connecting a different folder?
[05:35] <dooglus>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:35] <dooglus> Mem:        353148     348872       4276          0       3048      81504
[05:35] <dooglus> (according to 'free')
[05:35] <Agamotto> 256 or 384, I bet
[05:35] <dooglus> no, I don't think it's either of those 2.
[05:35] <Techie_dude> okay, i got my cam working there for a little while and then it says can't connect to the  device at /dev/video0
[05:35] <mondi> DShepherd: it gives me some of the names of the manufacturer but it can't detect which model
[05:35] <Madpilot> amicrawler: totem-xine runs DVDs for me...
[05:36] <Techie_dude> you have to get the libcss thing amicrawler
[05:36] <DShepherd> mondi: oh.. :(
[05:36] <mondi> are there any applications in linux where I could test out my webcam?
[05:36] <Techie_dude> amicrawler wait and i will get you the package name
[05:36] <Goldfisch> joshua: Check /boot/config-x.y.z, and see if you have BT848 enabled.
[05:36] <Agamotto> !ubotu tell amicrawler about libdvdcss
[05:36] <dooglus> oh, it's 384.  http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/laptop/7009.htm
[05:37] <joshua> goldfisch ----can you give me syntax ?
[05:37] <DShepherd> dooglus: does dapper feel faster than gnome?
[05:37] <Goldfisch> joshua: grep BT848 /boot/config*
[05:37] <Techie_dude> can someone please help me with my webcam issue
[05:37] <joshua> donka
[05:37] <DShepherd> dooglus: sorry faster than breezy
[05:37] <Eugman> !commands
[05:37] <ubotu> commands is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:37] <amicrawler> i need  to find xinelib-1.1.1.
[05:38] <dooglus> DShepherd: yes.  I remember when I first switched to it I was quite surprised at how much faster if felt.
[05:38] <DShepherd> mondi: what about nautilus.. any changes there>
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> amicrawler,  you seem to be doing all this the hard way. I recall just apt-get installing a few things and it played them
[05:38] <joshua> says bt848=m
[05:38] <DShepherd> dooglus: great
[05:38] <mondi> DShepherd: there is a search option now
[05:38] <Goldfisch> Eugman: If type ls -l /var/www/yoursymlink, you will it has an arrow pointed at your target directory. You can have any number of symlinks pointing to the same name. It is not the destination that changes, but the source symlink.
[05:38] <dooglus> DShepherd: the only thing that seems slower to me is the "open file" dialog.  it takes about 15 seconds to appear.
[05:38] <Goldfisch> joshua: Okay, type "lsmod | grep bttv"
[05:38] <DShepherd> mondi: yeah I heard... any other changes? or additions?
[05:39] <joshua> was that supposed to do something?
[05:39] <mondi> DShepherd: I don't know if it was there before , but there are options now to hide the different panels
[05:39] <joshua> or did it ?
[05:39] <dooglus> hey!  that smil file just started playing.  scared the sh1t out of me!  how long was that?
[05:40] <DShepherd> mondi: cant remember what breezy was like :-D?
[05:40] <Mr_Molez> i have compiled my own kernel using the default kernels config file... but i cant get second hard drive or cdrom drive working.. Anyone else found this problem ?
[05:40] <Eugman> Yes Goldfisch but when you make a new symlink it takes the name of the target folder. That is my problem. I want it to have a different name.
[05:40] <amicrawler> ok
[05:40] <nickrud> dooglus, about 12 minutes
[05:40] <dooglus> about 12 minutes I reckon.  looks like it downloaded the whole thing before starting to play it
[05:40] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah , and coz I am new ubuntu user , I was using mandriva so I was used to kde
[05:40] <Techie_dude> ack, can anyone help me with my webcam issue, PLEASE,
[05:40] <Goldfisch> Eugman: No. If you type ln -s <target>, then by default the symlink will take its name. Add a second argument, ln -s <target> <symlink>, and your symlink will have an alternate name.
[05:41] <amicrawler> i'm looking  for a few things
[05:41] <Madpilot> amicrawler: totem-xine + libdvdread3 plays DVDs fine, it's by far the easiest way to do it...
[05:41] <Goldfisch> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-01-07 23:41 foobar -> /usr/local/src/mythtv/
[05:41] <Goldfisch> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2005-09-25 20:03 mythtv -> /usr/local/src/mythtv/
[05:41] <DShepherd> mondi: k
[05:41] <DShepherd> wanna send me some screenshots and stuff?
[05:41] <joshua> tvtime still has no signal do i need to reboot?
[05:42] <DShepherd> mondi: wanna send me some screenshots and stuff?
[05:42] <mondi> DShepherd: sure , where do I send em
[05:42] <nickrud> I've only ever read a smil file just to see what read it, anyway. Was it worth it dooglus ;)
[05:42] <Eugman> oh ok. But I'd have to be in the www directory for that to work the way you said correct?
[05:42] <dooglus> where do you set up whether you want "follows mouse" or "click to type" focus in gnome?
[05:42] <DShepherd> mondi: check your pm
[05:42] <mondi> k
[05:42] <joshua> hey goldfisch im attempting mythtv    am i even close?
[05:43] <Goldfisch> Eugman. Yeah. mythtv in my case is symlink in my /var/www. I created foobar to demonstrate two different symlinks pointed at the same destination.
[05:43] <DShepherd> mondi: got that?
[05:43] <Goldfisch> joshua: A little extra info --->  https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/MythTV
[05:43] <Goldfisch> joshua: Close is so subjective. I am trying to figure out if you have your TV tuner card in line. First get it working with something like xawtv. MythTV comes later.
[05:43] <blood> how do i install cvs on my computer?
[05:44] <Goldfisch> joshua: type "lsmod | grep bttv" so you can see if the kernel module is loaded.
[05:44] <dooglus> blood: type alt-f2 and then "sudo apt-get install cvs"
[05:44] <stpere> blood: sudo apt-get install cvs
[05:44] <Eugman> ok. The command you had posted didn't make sense because normally the third argument when I make a symlink is where to put it instead of what to name it.
[05:44] <stpere> blood, when asked, insert the install cd
[05:44] <joshua> $ returned no informnation with that command
[05:45] <Goldfisch> joshua: What do you get typing "modprobe bttv"
[05:45] <joshua> tvtime loads butxawtv won't boot
[05:45] <dooglus> blood: oh, and tick 'run in a terminal'
[05:45] <amicrawler> what i'm looking for is  things i can get in suse and regular debian with out complacations and running in to problems
[05:45] <joshua> should i post errors on paste?
[05:45] <Goldfisch> Eugman: I only typed two arguments. "-s" is not an argument, but really a flag, indicating symbolic link as opposed to hard link.
[05:46] <Goldfisch> joshua: Yeah, on pastebin
[05:46] <joshua> k
[05:46] <nickrud> amicrawler, if you only install with apt-get or synaptic, you won't have complications. apt-cache search will help you find the right packages
[05:46] <amicrawler> i do have that
[05:46] <amicrawler> it say  all the time not found
[05:47] <nickrud> what's not found
[05:47] <nickrud> amicrawler, what apps are you wanting to run?
[05:47] <ryan__> Hey all
[05:47] <Techie_dude> i am sitting in my floor with my wireless keyboard using my cmoputer so i can'\ play wiht my sun
[05:48] <Techie_dude> sun=usb
[05:48] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6777
[05:48] <amicrawler> xine unstable  dvd opengl games dvdripping apps and new apps
[05:48] <Goldfisch> joshua: Sorry. My fault. Type "sudo modprobe bttv"
[05:49] <Madpilot> amicrawler: that's not the most exact list... but enable the Universe/Multiverse repos and update, and you should be OK...
[05:49] <joshua> i have so much to learn
[05:49] <nickrud> amicrawler, if you'd post /etc/apt/source.list to a pastebin, that's the place to start.
[05:49] <joshua> nothing comes back...
[05:49] <amicrawler> i did that last night
[05:49] <Agamotto> joshua:  Yep, like anything else, it is just a matter of patience
[05:49] <nickrud> amicrawler, well, that was then. this is now.
[05:50] <Goldfisch> Ahh, but the feeling once you conquer a major application, and your linux servers bow at your command!
[05:50] <Techie_dude> okay i got the spca5xx driver running smooth with my cam but then i restarted my computer and it wont work i tried modprobe again and it wont work
[05:50] <dooglus> when I click on a URL in gaim, if I'm running XFCE, the link opens in firefox, but if I'm running GNOME it opens in a terminal (in w3m).  where is that configured?  I'd like it to use firefox in GNOME.
[05:51] <joshua> nothing comes back...
[05:51] <Goldfisch> joshua: Again, do the "lsmod | grep bttv" and see if you now have an entry.
[05:51] <Agamotto> System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[05:52] <dooglus> Agamotto: is that to me?  if so I looked there and firefox is already my preferred browser.
[05:52] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6778
[05:52] <Agamotto> dooglus:  Hmmmm
[05:52] <dooglus> Agamotto: that's what I thought.  Hmmm.
[05:52] <joshua> it came back with info
[05:52] <Techie_dude> does anyone know how to help me with my cam troubles
[05:53] <amicrawler> ok installed the nv drivers how to make active
[05:53] <Goldfisch> joshua: Excellent. Now type, "dmesg | grep bttv" to examine the syslogs for any bttv module actions.
[05:53] <dooglus> Agamotto: incidentally, I have never configured anything to use w3m - I didn't even know it was installed until gaim started running it!  (And yes, gaim used to use firefox a few months ago)
[05:53] <Agamotto> Techie_dude:  Most likely not, at least with the current crowd.  You might wish to try again in a little while
[05:53] <Agamotto> dooglus:  Interesting
[05:54] <anavim> yeah, gaim likes using konqueror on my system even though I use firefox
[05:54] <Madpilot> !tell anavim about nvidia
[05:55] <anavim> why?
[05:55] <Madpilot> anavim: the bot should have just pm'd you...
[05:55] <anavim> why?
[05:55] <anavim> my graphics work fine
[05:55] <amicrawler> am i speeling streamripper right in apt-get
[05:55] <Madpilot> anavim: usually "nv" means "nvidia" - what does it mean in this case, then?
[05:56] <drcode> any one know if ssh client I can put on deomnd for port forward?
[05:56] <anavim> I am having a problem with apt-get update though.  it fails to hit the server, as does curl and wget.  but ping and firefox work fine.. any way to force it to hit the server?
[05:56] <amicrawler> how do i setup my nvidia drivers
[05:56] <Agamotto> nv is the X.org generic 'free' driver... nivida is the non-free driver supplied by nvidia
[05:56] <dooglus> Agamotto: gaim is running "x-terminal-emulator -e /usr/bin/www-browser" - and that runs w3m
[05:57] <anavim> Madpilot, I don't understand, did I say something about nv?
[05:57] <Madpilot> anavim: ack, my mistake, I got your nick mixed up with amicrawler's... sorry
[05:57] <Agamotto> dooglus:  try changing it to /usr/bin/firefox
[05:57] <anavim> Madpilot, ok
[05:57] <Madpilot> amicrawler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:57] <dooglus> Agamotto: I don't know how it decides to use that
[05:58] <chet--> dapper is installing on compaq v2000, so far so good
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> anavim: pinging the server and actually grabbing things are two differnt things
[05:58] <Agamotto> dooglus:  Must be a simple config text file somwhere in gaim's dir
[05:58] <dooglus> Agamotto: oh, I see.  in gaim's prefs there's a 'browser' section
[05:58] <dooglus> it's set up to run "sensible-browser"
[05:58] <anavim> johndarkhorse, yes, but being able to ping the server and grab the pages with firefox proves they are reachable and that apt-get is indeed broken
[05:59] <anavim> is apt-get using libcurl to grab the files?
[05:59] <anavim> if so, I could manually upgrade libcurl...
[05:59] <Vesh> hmm, Ive got a problem with dual booting, ubuntu works just fine by itself, but if my win xp hard drive is connected, it will refuse to start, any suggestions?
[06:00] <nickrud> dooglus, sensible browser is set by the x-www-browser alternative; sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser
[06:00] <ericmoritz\0> hi
[06:00] <dooglus> nickrud: ls: /usr/bin/x-www-browser: No such file or directory
[06:00] <dooglus> nickrud: what package provides that?
[06:00] <ericmoritz\0> I'm trying to write a custom init.d script that starts a server but I don't want the server running as root.  Does anyone know how I can change that?
[06:01] <joshua> tvtime says cannot open capture device /dev/video
[06:01] <joshua> sry /dev/video0
[06:01] <crimsun> ericmoritz\0: in the initscript, explicitly use the user and/or group as parameters
[06:01] <Agamotto> joshua:  try changing it to video0
[06:01] <DShepherd> mondi: thanks
[06:01] <Goldfisch> ericmoritz\0: Well, "su - <newuser> -c "/my/command <arg1>..." is one way
[06:01] <dooglus> nickrud: I see.  you need the "--config" argument in there too
[06:02] <nickrud> dooglus, it's not in any package, it's an alternative, which is alterable by more than one package... if I could paste here I'd show mine existed
[06:02] <Agamotto> Does jesus save?
[06:02] <joshua> also says Format unsupported by Labtec Webcam Elch2 (my usb webcam) Im focused on tv card though
[06:02] <DShepherd> Agamotto: I hope so
[06:02] <DShepherd> Agamotto: or I am lost
[06:02] <joshua> xawtv crashes ubuntu
[06:02] <Goldfisch> joshua: Did it correctly detect your card and put it in the right tuner mode? (NTSC or PAL). This should be seen in your "dmesg | grep bttv" output. If not, you may to adjust a couple bttv module parameters.
[06:03] <dooglus> nickrud: the symlink existed, but the target of the link didn't
[06:03] <dooglus> nickrud: it's a link like this: /usr/bin/x-www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
[06:03] <nickrud> dooglus, exactly
[06:03] <dooglus> but /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser didn't exist.
[06:03] <alesco> Is anyone running 5.10 on a laptop ?  I'm having a couple of issues.....
[06:03] <nickrud> do the sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, and create one
[06:04] <dooglus> it used to, but somehow got deleted.  I'd report it as a bug, but I've no idea how it got deleted, so it's not much use.
[06:04] <joshua> dmesg | grep bttv no output from that command
[06:04] <dooglus> nickrud: I did.
[06:04] <dooglus> nickrud: and that worked - thanks
[06:04] <Goldfisch> joshua: I found this stack of bttv parameters. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6779
[06:05] <Goldfisch> joshua: To get my card properly recognized, I have an /etc/modprobe.d/bttv file containing "options bttv card=78 tuner=2" These options are used when doing "modprobe bttv" to properly configure it.
[06:06] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6778 did you see this....?
[06:06] <Goldfisch> joshua: I got this from my machine.
[06:07] <Agamotto> I would stick around, but I need to take my eyeballs out
[06:07] <Agamotto> Chat with you all later
[06:07] <Goldfisch> joshua: Yes, and I said excellent, because it showed that the modules had loaded.
[06:07] <Goldfisch> joshua: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6780
[06:08] <Goldfisch> joshua: Also, /etc/modules has a line with "bttv" in it, so at boot time, it knows to load that module automatically.
[06:08] <joshua> way over my head
[06:09] <Goldfisch> joshua: What model TV tuner do you have? I had to search to figure out which card I card and figure out the tuner setting. That is the only way. Simple research.
[06:09] <joshua> aitech wavewatcher pci
[06:10] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6780 should i copy this into something?
[06:10] <joshua> changing what i find in research
[06:10] <joshua> ?
[06:10] <joshisscifi> can anyone help me with getting java sdk up and going with an IDE as well to program with?
[06:10] <sethk> joshisscifi, use eclipse
[06:11] <anavim> does anyone know the name of the ubuntu base networking lib?
[06:11] <joshisscifi> sethk: ok, I have a bunch of listings for eclipse in Adept now, which do I need to install?
[06:11] <joshua> by the by Goldfisch are you a Turner?
[06:11] <joshisscifi> eclipse-jdt?
[06:11] <sethk> joshisscifi, I don't know, I never installed it that way.  I would probably just install them all rather than worrying about which I need
[06:11] <Goldfisch> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/BTTV.html says "AITech WaveWatcher TV-PCI = can be LR26 (Bt848) or LR50 (BT878)"
[06:12] <crouton> how do you take care of spaces within a command? e.g. scp user@host:file with spaces
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> crouton,  try single quotes
[06:12] <nickrud> crouton, correct placement of quote marks
[06:12] <crouton> Dr_Willis, where exactly? i've tried a lot.
[06:12] <Goldfisch> ...and "card=8 - Lifeview FlyVideo II (Bt848) LR26" according to my bttv spec listings.
[06:13] <Goldfisch> joshua: So create a file called /etc/modprobe.d/bttv with one line "options bttv card=8"
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> scp 'user@host:foo bar' would be my guess
[06:13] <crouton> hmm. don't think so
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> scp "'user@host:foo bar'"
[06:13] <Goldfisch> joshua: Then, "sudo rmmod bttv" and then "sudo modprobe bttv" again.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> with a " and a ; :)
[06:13] <joshua> eeeee how do I do that? Im a total newb ...... create the file?
[06:13] <nickrud> ortner, scp user@host:"foo bar" ?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> oops a " and a '
[06:13] <Goldfisch> To handle spaces, escape them with a backslash.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Goldfisch,  good answer.. :P
[06:14] <nickrud> argh
[06:14] <egkamp> how about something like scp user@host:foo\ bar
[06:14] <joshisscifi> has anyone had problems installing the cisco vpn client in ubuntu?
[06:14] <Goldfisch> egkamp: ;)
[06:14] <nickrud> Goldfisch, wins
[06:14] <crouton> ok, backslash i hadn't though of
[06:14] <Goldfisch> An unfortunate skill one must learn when mounting legacy Windows system, filled with space-laden files.
[06:15] <crouton> hmm
[06:15] <nickrud> who cares where the winning hand comes from :)
[06:15] <Goldfisch> I like OpenVPN. Set it up on my ubuntu laptop, and my home server in no time.
[06:15] <spect3r> !azureus
[06:15] <ubotu> somebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:15] <cappicard> good evening all. I have tried to install Breezy Badger, but after I run the installation, I keep getting "cannot find /sbin/init" when attempting to boot into it after installation.
[06:15] <joshisscifi> Goldfisch: but will the client connect to a cisco vpn server?
[06:15] <Goldfisch> Oh, well...my guess is that they are probably IPsec based, which openvpn is not for.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cappicard,  yopu are saying the isntall worked? or is the installer the thing giving the error?
[06:16] <Contamination> Anyone think they can help me with a 5.10 install on a iMac?
[06:16] <Goldfisch> joshua: You are going to have to learn how to edit text files, whether through vi, emacs, nano, gedit, or something. I can't walk you through editing files.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  :P what part do you need help with?
[06:16] <cappicard> well, the installer completes, it's when I  try to reboot my system to go into Ubuntu
[06:16] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: X says it all
[06:17] <irc> i pretty much figured out how to do it I just can't get sudo authority in the gui
[06:17] <cappicard> also, I can't get it to install grub. I have hda and hdb. I boot from hda's MBR normally
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  Huh? :P
[06:17] <cappicard> so I have to resort to LILO
[06:17] <Contamination> Complete sluggish performance to a near halt when X window system loads.
[06:17] <chet--> is wpa_sup installed with dapper? i see some on the forums saying wpa worked out of the box?
[06:17] <chet--> but i dont see it
[06:17] <crouton> oy. double quotations *and* backslashes.
[06:17] <Goldfisch> Isn't gksu the GNOME tool to gui-wrap sudi?
[06:18] <Madpilot> Goldfisch: gksudo
[06:19] <kameron> madpilot, why wouldn't you just sudo command, instead of gksudo command? what's the diff?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  odd.. what your specs on the imac?
[06:19] <Contamination> 500MHZ 640MB RAM G3
[06:19] <irc> my gui wont give me root permission to save file in /etc/modprobe.d/bttv
[06:19] <Madpilot> kameron: to run GUI stuff, gksudo is recommended - I can't remember the technical details, though
[06:19] <kameron> eh
[06:19] <Contamination> When I cancel X from loading during boot time everything flies until it starts up Gnome which needs X
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  I got an iMAC DV - with  like 256mb. and it ran 'ok' on mine..  not sure what the cpu is.. (500mhz i think)
[06:20] <nickrud> irc, gksudo gedit, if you do it that way: and sudo cp <file> <file> otherwise
[06:20] <garry> irc, from terminal sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bttv
[06:20] <smog> d
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  may want to check the ubuntu wiki/forums - there maybe a mac support section.
[06:20] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: I did and they all could not find the solution :)
[06:20] <malubankudi> hey
[06:21] <smog> Can anybody recommend a good firewall for ubuntu?
[06:21] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  heh - do like I did.. put osx back on (or os9) and use it  for a SSH box. :P
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  i had other 'issues' with ubuntu on my imacDv
[06:21] <nickrud> smog, shorewall is the one supported by ubuntu, and firestarter is the easiest one.
[06:22] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:22] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: So basically you know nothing about the problems with X on the iMac for the 5.10 dist?
[06:22] <smog> Should I do a get apt for shorewall?
[06:22] <amicrawler> ok thanx guy for the info
[06:22] <nickrud> smog, probably firestarter would be better. It works very well
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  I had no issues with it.
[06:22] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:22] <amicrawler> one more thing
[06:23] <garry> malubankudi, If a hard drive is secondary, it can never be considered as master.
[06:23] <Contamination> Dr_Willis, what dist is installed on that iMac?
[06:23] <DShepherd> what;s the difference between abiword and abiword-gnome
[06:23] <DShepherd> ?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  the issues i had was with a off set on the Monitor.
[06:23] <amicrawler> how do i get all the things added to my menus in kde or gnome
[06:23] <tim__> i am trying to install opera Unpacking replacement opera ...
[06:23] <tim__> Setting up opera (8.51-20051114.5) ...
[06:23] <tim__>  then it returns me to the prompt but i dont see opera in any menus
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  i think it was 5.10 i had on it a few mo ago.. Its back to OSx now.
[06:23] <smog> What's the command to install software?
[06:23] <smog> get something
[06:23] <amicrawler> apt-get
[06:23] <smog> thanks
[06:23] <irc> wow that was counter intiuitive but neat
[06:23] <amicrawler> sudo apt-get install
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> tim__,  try typing 'opera' ?
[06:24] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: Alright and how did you correct this off set on the monitor?
[06:24] <garry> or use /system/administration/synaptec
[06:24] <cappicard> ah... found the howto on how to install from the knoppix live CD
[06:24] <amicrawler> knoppix i tryed allready
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  I dident.. it was a real PAIN.. aparently the 'fix' was to boot to OS-X and use its tools to adjust the monitor.. well i had no dualbooting. so i couldent fix it from within linuix
[06:24] <amicrawler> not mipressed
[06:24] <joshisscifi> why does kubuntu not come with synaptec?
[06:24] <Goldfisch> joshua: I saved that BTTV information here ---> https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/BTTV <-- contains a link to a BTTV howto, along with card options.
[06:24] <tim__> ok that worked do i have to do that everytime i want to run it?
[06:25] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: Alright thanks anyway
[06:25] <alesco> aimcrawler, go to Applications, System Tools, the select Applications Menu Editor
[06:25] <amicrawler> so how do i get all the multivers app add to my gome menus?
[06:25] <irc> you rock gold i got the file saved could it work now?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  yea over all - i was not impressed much with it on the imac.. but my imac is a old box now a days.
[06:25] <Madpilot> tim__: opera doesn't add itself to the menus automatically, but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for how to get it there
[06:25] <nickrud> amicrawler, install menu-xdg, it will add a debian submenu, with most everything
[06:25] <Goldfisch> irc: Uh...are you joshua?
[06:25] <alesco> smog, try synaptic package manager.  Its a gui front end for apt-get
[06:25] <garry> The Kubuntu analog for synaptec is adept
[06:26] <irc> yes
[06:26] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: Yes it is but I prefer to bring back some life into it by running ubuntu.
[06:26] <joshisscifi> garry: thanks
[06:26] <spect3r> !totem
[06:26] <ubotu> spect3r: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:26] <garry> joshisscifi welcome
[06:26] <irc> my system crashed when i opened xawtv
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  yea.  I got several linxu box's so i jsut got the imac in the corner and use it as a ssh to the linux box machine. (or vnc)
[06:26] <Goldfisch> irc: Okay..."sudo rmmod bttv" followed by "lsmod | grep bttv" (proving it is removed), and finally "modprobe bttv".
[06:26] <spect3r> !totem-plugin
[06:26] <ubotu> spect3r: No idea
[06:26] <Goldfisch> irc: Don't forget sudo on those rmmod/modprobe commands. :)
[06:27] <amicrawler> how to ?
[06:27] <amicrawler> menu-xdg
[06:28] <amicrawler> i got the nvidia drivers working cudos to the help
[06:28] <smog> What do you have to do to enable ssh access on a ubuntu machine?
[06:28] <Xenguy> smog: install and configure ;-)
[06:28] <nickrud> amicrawler, sudo apt-get install menu-xdg (or use synaptic)
[06:28] <amicrawler> k
[06:29] <smog> is ssh in apt-get?
[06:29] <Xenguy> smog: apt-get will fetch ssh
[06:29] <amicrawler> all redy installed
[06:29] <Xenguy> apt-get install ssh
[06:29] <irc> it says error module bttv does not exist in /proc/modules
[06:29] <smog> ok thanks
[06:29] <alesco> smog, apt-get install ssh
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> the ssh server is called somthing else isent  it..
[06:30] <HappyFool> ssh or openssh ?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ssh is the client. (or am i confused)
[06:30] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: dependencies get pulled in IIRC
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy,  i dident think the client puilled the server.
[06:30] <Goldfisch> irc: After which command?
[06:30] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:30] <alesco> I just tried it and it installes openssh server
[06:30] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: maybe it's the other way around
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy,  yea i think so that mazkes more sence
[06:31] <irc> sudo rmod bttv
[06:31] <HappyFool> you can install openssh-client to get the client only; ssh is a metapackage
[06:31] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second hd as the slave
[06:31] <irc> sudo rmmod bttv
[06:32] <Goldfisch> irc: "lsmod | grep bttv" is your check if the module is loaded. If it isn't loaded, then there is no use for trying to remove it (rmmod). Press on the next step.
[06:32] <spect3r> !gstreamer
[06:32] <ubotu> Not a clue, spect3r
[06:32] <irc> next step had no return info from system, proceed?
[06:33] <smog> After you install ssh how do you configure it
[06:33] <malubankudi> Hod do i get ubuntu to read my second hd set as slave
[06:33] <Goldfisch> irc: Yep. The goal is to try and reload the kernel module with those new bttv options.
[06:33] <HappyFool> !tell smog about ssh
[06:34] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second hd set as slave
[06:34] <HappyFool> malubankudi: please don't repeat yourself
[06:34] <Madpilot> !tell malubankudi about mount
[06:34] <irc> ok i did modprobe bttv got errors
[06:34] <Goldfisch> irc: sudo?
[06:34] <tim__> ok i got it, thanks madpilot. are all applications this hard to install, i mean it seems like there was a lot of steps that i had to do manually are all the aplications like this?
[06:35] <irc> now as sudo got no feedback from system
[06:35] <Goldfisch> irc: Okay, sounds good. "dmesg | grep bttv"
[06:35] <yancheng> 1 is stdout, 2 is stderr, may i noe how about 3??
[06:35] <ubuntu> d
[06:35] <ubuntu> ls
[06:36] <irc> says it's loaded
[06:36] <kairu0> can i change my downloading directory in Bittorrent official to another without losing my incomplete download?
[06:36] <ubuntu> out
[06:36] <spect3r> i've incountered a bit of a problem when trying to compile something fomr source... it get an error saying
[06:36] <spect3r> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:36] <paulproteus|lapt> kairu0: Yes.  Simply stop the torrent, move the partially-downloaded file, and restart the torrent.
[06:36] <Goldfisch> irc: Can you send me some pastebin of that dmesg command?
[06:37] <paulproteus|lapt> spect3r: Install the package called 'build-essential'.