[00:25] <K350> engineer: It starts to look great here:) I ca add applications to teh menu bar. But whatabout the trash can from where can I add it to the menu?
[00:25] <engineer> menubar or taskbar?
[00:29] <engineer> K350
[00:34] <haplo> when I try to do a version upgrade in adept (from 7.10) I get "Could not download the release announcement" anyone know how to fix this?
[00:34] <K350> engineer: uhm..taskbar I guess
[00:34] <K350> engineer: at teh same place where I've teh clock etc...
[00:35] <engineer> K350 right click, add applet
[00:36] <engineer> haplo sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:37] <engineer> replace gutsy with hardy
[00:37] <engineer> save
[00:37] <engineer> sudo aptitude update && sudo dist-upgrade
[00:38] <K350> engineer: Oh, thanks again!:)
[00:39] <haplo> dist-upgrade isn't found, you mean apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:40] <engineer> same thing
[00:40] <haplo> okay thanks
[00:40] <engineer> oops
[00:40] <engineer> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[00:40] <engineer> this should work
[00:41] <haplo> alright, looks like it worked, thanks.
[00:41] <lovre> does any1 here have IEEE Web Account?
[00:42] <engineer> haplo no problem
[00:45] <sebastian> how do i change automatic spell check to swedish in openoffice writer?
[00:55] <sebastian> how do i change automatic spell check to swedish in openoffice writer?
[00:56] <Dr_willis> perhaps ht F1 and check the OOwriter docs/guides?
[00:58] <sebastian> ok thx
[00:58] <sebastian> hehe hi dr willis :P
[00:58] <sebastian> im back on ubuntu now :P
[00:59] <sebastian> i tryed evrything i changed to swedish on evrything i can but it still dont work
[01:01] <K350> engineer: Have you seen those desktop sthat publish system info at the right of the desktop? Do you know wha tI need to do that?
[01:03] <Odd-rationale> !info conky | K350
[01:05] <K350> ubottu: Oh, that's great. I'll download and have a closer look at that one. Thanks a lot!:)
[01:06] <K350> Odd-rationale: Ah...nice command...well I'll have a look at conky. thanks a lot!:)
[01:06] <Odd-rationale> np
[01:06] <K350> !info dpkg | K350
[01:06] <sebastian> !openoffice
[01:06] <K350> Odd-rationale: really good command..super thanks for that one!!!:)
[01:16] <beata|desktop> I'm having a bit of video mode trouble. Where'd be the best place to ask?
[01:20] <ibou_> what is the process NetworkManagerD for ?
[01:26] <beata|desktop> Mmm anyway, trying to define a video mode for my widescreen monitor. Put the mode into the (hopefully) correct location in xorg.conf, but the X server log doesn't mention seeing it.
[01:35] <navetz__> where can I find help with some flash development (actionscript 3)
[01:35] <Ikawe> beata|desktop: by the (hopefully) correct location, do you mean under a 'Section "screen"' on a line begining with "mode" ?
[01:36] <Ikawe> oops, on a line begining with "modes", rather
[01:36] <beata|desktop> Oooh.. I had a typo.
[01:37] <Ikawe> beata|desktop: type in your xorg.conf? or in your irc message?
[01:38] <beata|desktop> In my conf. I had the modeline defined in the "monitor" section, and typo'd the name in the "screen" section.
[01:39] <zabbadapp> sebastian: in the openoffice menu, select File->Wizards->Install new dictionaries ... then follow instructions and select Swedish ... when done, select in the menu Tools->Language->For all text->more...->Default languages for document ... and you should find Swedish (may appear already in language menu)
[01:40] <beata|desktop> Now it should work. But before I restart, how might I go about forbidding a predefined mode? As in, I don't list it in xorg.conf but it shows in the RandR applet and it isn't compatible with my display.
[01:43] <beata|desktop> It's that damn "1280x1024" mode, BTW.
[01:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i terminate a process?
[01:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> firefox is not running for some reason
[01:56] <eduardopl> alt f2, killall -9 firefox will do CostaRicanQuaker
[01:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> and from the shell?
[01:56] <eduardopl> the same thing
[01:57] <eduardopl> with no alt f2
[01:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> no sudo?
[01:57] <eduardopl> :)
[01:57] <eduardopl> no sudo
[01:57] <eduardopl> unless it's not one of your processes
[01:57] <eduardopl> i guess
[01:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> killall -9 firefox
[01:58] <eduardopl> yes
[01:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> um...
[01:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i knowif it did it?
[01:58] <DarthFrog> ps aux | grep firefox
[01:59] <eduardopl> firefox windows shoulda disappeared by now
[01:59] <eduardopl> window*
[01:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> 1000      7725  0.0  0.3   3008   764 pts/2    S+   18:59   0:00 grep firefox
[02:00] <DarthFrog> OK, try "ps auxww | grep firefox"
[02:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> 1000      7776  0.0  0.3   3004   748 pts/2    R+   19:00   0:00 grep firefox
[02:00] <DarthFrog> No more Firefox. :-)
[02:01]  * CostaRicanQuaker reopens firefox
[02:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is the command to run a program?
[02:01] <eduardopl> its name usually
[02:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> DarthFrog; do you use compiz?
[02:05] <Ikawe> CostaRicanQuaker: are you getting any sort of error message?
[02:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do you mean?
[02:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> should i be?
[02:10] <mib_y543qtmb> hello
[02:21] <haplo> I just upgraded to 8.04.01 and now all my mouse clicks are double clicks, I tried three different mice all the same, anyone know anything about this?
[02:22] <Githzerai> haplo: Change it in systemsettings under keyboard&mouse
[02:23] <haplo> change what, the double click timing?
[02:24] <Githzerai> haplo: U use single click or double click interface ?
[02:24] <haplo> single
[02:26] <Githzerai> haplo: Then I missunderstood the problem. ....
[02:26] <haplo> when I click once, the system sees it as a double click
[02:27] <haplo> if I click on a title bar to move the window, it maximizes or minimizes, if I click an application icon, it opens two of them
[02:28] <jals> will i lose data if i convert a drive from ntfs to ext3?
[02:30] <Pici> jals: yes
[02:30] <jals> right
[02:31] <jals> is it a good idea to have ext3 using linux though? obviously i'm an ex windows user
[02:34] <Dr_willis> ive not seen a way to 'convert' ntfs to ext3.. :) one can deleta a partition and remake it as ext3
[02:34] <Dr_willis> but thats not really converting.
[02:36] <Kevin___> Hi, I'm looking to download Kubuntu, and I noticed that on the download page, there's Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 4 Remix). Could somebody explain the difference please?
[02:37] <DarthFrog> Dr_willis_: You don't have to delete the partition, you can just mkfs on the existing NTFS partition.
[02:37] <jals> Dr_willis: yeah guess that's what i mean
[02:37] <jals> will it make any difference?
[02:37] <DarthFrog> Kevin___: The remix has KDE4, the other has KDE 3.5.9
[02:37] <Kevin___> Oh, Ok. Thank you so much!
[02:40] <Ikawe> CostaRicanQuaker: I mean, when you try to start firefox, and it doesn't start, are you getting any error message? Or does nothing happen at all?
[02:42] <Ikawe> jals: well, ext3 has been around a lot longer in Linux than has ntfs, so I would put more faith in it in that regard.
[02:44] <Ikawe> jals: if you google "ntfs vs ext3"  you'll find a lot of information
[02:45] <Dr_willis> DarthFrog,  Hmm.. something seems wrong about formating  somthing fdisk says is a ntfs, as a ext3... :)
[02:45] <jals> Ikawe: actually the reason i thought to mention it is cos i just found this: http://www.ubergeek.org.uk/cpu_usage.png
[02:46] <flaccid> lol
[02:47] <flaccid> i doubt that is accurate
[02:47] <Ikawe> Dr_willis: you would certainly lose all the information on it. But there's nothing wrong with that
[02:47] <Dr_willis> Ikawe,  then why have partition types at all?
[02:48] <Ikawe> no, I've misunderstood. He would change the partition type to ext3. It's just that he wouldnt delete the partition, just change the type of it.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Ok.. that makes more sence then. I forgot that you can just 'change the type' :)
[02:49] <Dr_willis> I just am so used to doing 'd' to delete, n, t ,  in fdisk.. i never even though about just changing the type.
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Of course in most cases the whold drive is 1 ntfs, and i need to delete to make 2 partitions for linux. swap and /
[02:49] <Dr_willis> old habbits i guess.
[02:53] <Ikawe> Dr_willis: actually, I guess I don't understand. What is the relationship between a partition type and the filesystem type that goes on that partition
[02:53] <Ikawe> or are they the same thing?
[02:55] <cyberponix> I need some help making the changes I made in konsole, stay... i know I need to be root but, I am unsure how
[02:55] <flaccid> cyberponix: changes?
[02:55] <cyberponix> yes my wifi set up
[02:56] <flaccid> cyberponix: wi fi is controlled by knetworkmanager
[02:56] <cyberponix> ie sudo -i -H (then, as root) echo ath_pci>>/etc/modules
[02:57] <flaccid> cyberponix: oh. that command only needs to be run once unless something is removing ath_pci from /etc/modules after
[02:57] <flaccid> it already does 'stay'
[02:58] <cyberponix> well I had to restart my comp, when I did my wifi no longer worked so I went through and re did everyeverytimething I do,t want to have to do that
[02:59] <flaccid> you probably have not configured it correctly and something is overriding
[02:59] <Ikawe> the command: echo ath_pci>>/etc/modules, is writing "ath_pci" to the end of the file /etc/modules, so unless something is changing the file, which seems unlikely, it should still be in there.
[02:59] <Ikawe> you could read the /etc/modules file and see if "ath_pci" is in there to be sure.
[02:59] <cyberponix> I get a "Permission denied"
[03:00] <Ikawe> when writing to the file, or attempting to read it?
[03:00] <cyberponix> sudo -i -H (then, as root) echo ath_pci>>/etc/modules, when I type that
[03:01] <flaccid> cyberponix: you only need cat /etc/modules to read it. the perms should be -rw-r--r-- owned by root
[03:01] <cyberponix> right so how do I go root in konsole
[03:02] <flaccid> cyberponix: you don't need to in this case. its readable by all users.
[03:02] <flaccid> we still don't know the actual series of commands etc. you run for your networking. probably good idea to show us what guide you are using
[03:02] <cyberponix> k hold on
[03:03] <Ikawe> cyberponix: "sudo su" would change you to the root user.
[03:03] <Ikawe> go wild
[03:03] <cyberponix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792158
[03:03] <flaccid> sudo su is bad practice. su or sudo -i is what should be used for root shell
[03:05] <flaccid> cyberponix: what is the card's entry in lscpi ?
[03:05] <cyberponix> so then it should be 'sudo -i -H sudo -i echo ath_pci>>/etc/modules'
[03:05] <cyberponix> wow wtf command not found now....
[03:06] <Ikawe> sudo -i   (enter)
[03:06] <Ikawe> then
[03:06] <Ikawe> echo ath_pci>>/etc/modules
[03:06] <cyberponix> k
[03:06] <flaccid> !root | cyberponix probably best to find out what you are actually do first
[03:07] <flaccid> not that the command you mentioned is on the link you showed me but anyway.
[03:07]  * Ikawe agrees with flaccid
[03:07] <cyberponix> I do know the password, I'm just new to command line
[03:09] <cyberponix> like I said before i used the code for the link I posted, it did not stay so i figured the other code would make it all stay, am I wrong?
[03:09] <flaccid> if you add it to /etc/modules and it is still there on boot but doesn't load the module, best to check the log
[03:09] <flaccid> cyberponix: bad assumption
[03:09] <cyberponix> glad i came here first
[03:10] <cyberponix> like I said I am new to command line
[03:11] <cyberponix> I do thank you guys for helpping me out here
[03:11] <flaccid> [12:05] <flaccid> cyberponix: what is the card's entry in lscpi ?
[03:11] <cyberponix> command not found... looks like I need to redo
[03:12] <flaccid> cyberponix: sorry my bad. lspci
[03:13] <cyberponix> lol it's ok
[03:13] <cyberponix> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[03:13] <cyberponix> isyou wanted/ what  that
[03:13] <cyberponix> sorry
[03:14] <cyberponix> is that what you wanted
[03:14] <flaccid> yeah
[03:17] <flaccid> cyberponix: well if ath_pci is in /etc/modules then it should work then you can use knetworkmanager. if you boot up and its in there but not loaded then check logs/ come back here for troubleshoot.
[03:19] <arashi> my tmp folder keeps on blinking as if refreshing and I can't seem to delete some unwanted files... Anyway I can clean them?
[03:20] <flaccid> the temp files are probably in use arashi
[03:20] <ns8> #kubuntu-es
[03:21] <arashi> I'll try restarting again.. Thanks flaccid
[03:23] <ISS_student> I can't get sound to work can anyone help me?
[03:28] <flaccid> lol restarting won't help its used for sockets ah well
[03:36] <cyberponix> flaccid: can you think of why the wireless would not be showing up in knetwork
[03:42] <flaccid> cyberponix: is the kernel module loaded ie. did it load it on startup lsmod | grep ath_pci
[03:43] <cyberponix> I am unsure
[03:43] <KalThaeden[EK]> Hi, i'm having a problem with my sound card. When I initially installed Kubuntu, the sound worked just fine, but after it applied the updates, the sound stopped working. Can someone help me with this?
[03:44] <flaccid> cyberponix: run lsmod | grep ath_pci and find out
[03:45] <KalThaeden[EK]> Hello?
[03:46] <cyberponix> ath_pci               101024  0      /     wlan                  207728  1 ath_pci     /      ath_hal               192592  1 ath_pci
[03:46] <flaccid> cyberponix: pastebin your /var/log/messages
[03:46] <flaccid> and /var/log/syslog
[03:46] <cyberponix> KalThaeden[EK]: we would need more info
[03:47] <cyberponix> I would do what to do that
[03:47] <KalThaeden[EK]> What kind of info? That's basically it.
[03:47] <bdizzle> hello
[03:47] <cyberponix> what kind of sound card you have, did all the updates go through good ect
[03:47] <bdizzle> is there a way to test Kubuntu to see if my DVD-R can read PAL format dvds?
[03:48] <_2> cyberponix open a konsole and type in or paste in;  grep ath /var/log/syslog
[03:48] <KalThaeden[EK]> Its an Intel card. Says that it is "HDA Intel". The updates all successfully installed though.
[03:48] <flaccid> i wont to see the whole logs
[03:49] <_2> oh.
[03:49] <Hydryad> okay, so I have this odd problem when I try to boot up the kubuntu dvd, it gets to the loading screen with the big kubuntu logo etc. but then it finishes loading and my lcd gets "cannot display in analog mode" and my crt gets "out of frequency range, cannot display"
[03:49] <_2> forget the grep
[03:49] <Hydryad> so is it possible to make it boot up in alternate resolutions and such?
[03:49] <flaccid> Hydryad: safe graphics mode from the boot menu
[03:50] <_2> Hydryad f6 before it starts to boot ?
[03:50] <cyberponix> _2:  command not found
[03:50] <cyberponix> ath /var/log/syslog
[03:50] <flaccid> cat /var/log/syslog or kate /var/log/syslog
[03:50] <Hydryad> okay thanks, I needed some idea and that helps majorly ^_^ I was lost
[03:50] <_2> cyberponix it's ok flaccid said he wanted the whole log
[03:50] <KalThaeden[EK]> The only options in Kmix that aren't up are PCM and Front, but i've tried turning both of them up and there still is no sound.
[03:51] <KalThaeden[EK]> Its an Intel Card, and Adept displayed that all updates completed successfully.
[03:51] <_2> KalThaeden[EK] that reminds me.  i want to try to enable some more adjustments in alsamixer on my hda-sound
[03:52] <_2> all i have is main and igain
[03:52] <_2> !hda
[03:52] <cyberponix> flaccid: where do I post the log for you to see/
[03:52] <_2> !intelhda
[03:52] <flaccid> !pastebin | cyberponix
[03:53] <_2> KalThaeden[EK] you saw the link too ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:53] <cyberponix> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25560/
[03:53] <KalThaeden[EK]> yep, i'll try it out.
[03:53] <KalThaeden[EK]> thanks
[03:55] <flaccid> cyberponix: yeah that doesn't look good. can you pastebin iwlist scan
[03:55] <_2> KalThaeden[EK] me too.  welcome.
[03:56] <donsdw_> CONNECT SantaAna.CA.US.Undernet.org
[03:56] <cyberponix> lo and eth0 both "Interface doesn't  support scanning"
[03:57] <flaccid> cyberponix: so you don't have a wireless interface yet
[03:57] <cyberponix> this is getting frusterating... what should I do?
[03:58] <flaccid> cyberponix: Jul  6 10:47:43 Inturder NetworkManager: <info>  Deactivating device ath0.Jul  6 11:39:43 Inturder kernel: [   39.666852] ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
[03:58] <flaccid> google the errors and give atheros a slap
[03:58] <_2> !patience | cyberponix fixing some thing will require plenty of
[03:58] <cyberponix> hold on I thinkk i know what i forgot to do
[03:59] <flaccid> cyberponix: which is?
[04:01] <cyberponix> give me just a min... I was very tired when i did it before
[04:01] <cyberponix> I think I have it
[04:01] <flaccid> np
[04:02] <_2> oh my... the intelhda sound page sujests things like ...   sudo ./configure &&  sudo make .... o.O
[04:02] <flaccid> _2: feel like editing it :? o
[04:02] <_2> in a list of ten cli commands two don't start with sudo and they are cd blah
[04:03] <_2> flaccid i'd have to register
[04:03] <flaccid> _2: that won't take long :p
[04:04] <_2> would too.  i'd have to setup an email account first
[04:04] <_2> i don't think they will accept user@localhost
[04:05] <flaccid> _2: hehe. gmail?
[04:06] <cyberponix> flaccid: nvm no change
[04:06] <_2> gmail ?   through google ?
[04:07] <flaccid> cyberponix: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; killall knetworkmanager; sudo modprobe ath_pci; sudo /etc/init.d/networking start; knetworkmanager &
[04:07] <flaccid> _2: get a gmail account
[04:08] <_2> no thanks.
[04:08] <flaccid> cyberponix: and check what it puts in logs when you run that
[04:08] <minhaaj> can you make incremental backups of apt packages using aptoncd ?
[04:08] <minhaaj> heyyyyyyyyyy flaccid  :)
[04:08] <flaccid> howdy
[04:08] <cyberponix> killall?
[04:08] <minhaaj> cool as always
[04:08] <minhaaj> wat aboutcha ?
[04:08] <flaccid> cyberponix: yeah
[04:10] <bdizzle> silly question for anyone
[04:10] <JuJuBee> I just got done formatting my 400GB external drive ext3.  It used to auto mount as /media/400G  How do I make it so that happens again.  It is mounting as /media/disk
[04:10] <cyberponix> ran now what
[04:10] <bdizzle> my DVD player on my laptop won't care whether a DVD is PAL or NTSC format, will it?
[04:10] <minhaaj> is there a rename feature JuJuBee  ?
[04:11] <flaccid> JuJuBee: disks & filesystems in system settings
[04:11] <JuJuBee> Dont know?  Gparted has a disklable
[04:11] <cyberponix> flaccid: I ran it now what do u want me to do7
[04:11] <flaccid> cyberponix: check the logs and knetworkmanager and ifconfig etc...
[04:13] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25562/
[04:13] <cyberponix> no wireless in knetworkman
[04:14] <cyberponix> reboot?
[04:14] <flaccid> cyberponix: so we can't even get it to work now it seems. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25560/ <--- submit a bug with this
[04:14] <flaccid> well it doesn't tell us exactly why it doesn't want to work but it tells us NetworkManager disables it
[04:15] <_2> black list ?
[04:17] <flaccid> you could be right. do you remember where the blacklist stuff is. thing is we need to know the default kernel mod to blacklist
[04:18] <_2> no i don't.   never played with wifi
[04:19] <cyberponix> blacklist?
[04:20] <flaccid> let me research (and goto the little boys room)
[04:32] <flaccid> cyberponix: pastebin /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist please
[04:32]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[04:38] <ns8> #kubuntu-es
[04:47] <cyberponix> flaccid: where do I do that?
[04:47] <cyberponix> flaccid: where do I do that?
[04:47] <flaccid> cyberponix: on the pastebin like you did before
[04:48] <cyberponix> command not found
[04:49] <flaccid> cyberponix: i gave the file only. use kate or cat ..
[04:51] <cyberponix> 	 am unsure what it is that you want me to do
[04:52] <flaccid> cyberponix: kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist <-- pastebin
[04:53] <m0hammed> hi alltogether
[04:54] <m0hammed> i have onlz one question
[04:54] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25571/
[04:54] <m0hammed> will there be any kubuntu 3.5 version with the dropklick men[_
[04:54] <m0hammed> menue _
[04:55] <flaccid> m0hammed: ask in #kde but i doubt it
[04:56] <flaccid> cyberponix: its not blacklisted. you might have to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[04:56] <m0hammed> ok thanks
[04:56] <flaccid> cyberponix: why did you follow that manual install of the kernel mod to begin with?
[04:57] <cyberponix> I tryed that yesterday however as I do not have windows I do not know how to get the driver to work in linux I know ndiswrapper
[04:57] <cyberponix> works windows drivers
[04:57] <cyberponix> flaccid: I am unsure about that as well....
[04:58] <cyberponix> n00b
[04:58] <flaccid> cyberponix: can you pastebin your dpkg -l | grep -i linux-restricted
[04:59] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25573/
[05:00] <flaccid> cyberponix: what is your uname -r?
[05:00] <cyberponix> I dunno
[05:00] <cyberponix> that is prob the issue huh
[05:00] <flaccid> paste it it here
[05:01] <flaccid> um we do not know yet. but this mod comes with the linux-restricted-modules-generic package so no need to d/l it in theory
[05:01] <cyberponix> 2.6.24-19-generic
[05:02] <cyberponix> this is my first laptop.... desktops are no issue with me, it seems laptops are a new ballpark
[05:03] <flaccid> not really
[05:04] <console_jockey> I'm looking for a way to send a message to another user on the same machine assuming I'm logged in via ssh and the user is working with the gui.  Is that possible?  I've looked at wall and rwall
[05:04] <flaccid> cyberponix: what does file /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko return?
[05:04] <flaccid> console_jockey: write
[05:04] <cyberponix> kate/
[05:05] <flaccid> cyberponix: command is this: file /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:06] <cyberponix> no such file or directory
[05:06] <flaccid> cyberponix: ok then please pastebin sudo updatedb && sudo locate ath_pci.ko
[05:07] <cyberponix> it is only four lines... I'll cut it in half
[05:07] <flaccid> np
[05:08] <console_jockey> I've searched apt for talk and found ktalkd, but there is no man page..
[05:08] <flaccid> console_jockey: write is the command to use
[05:08] <cyberponix> /home/cyberponix/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007/ath/.ath_pci.ko.cmd
[05:08] <cyberponix> /home/cyberponix/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007/ath/ath_pci.ko
[05:08] <console_jockey> ok, will check it out
[05:08] <cyberponix> /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/net/ath_pci.ko
[05:08] <cyberponix> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/net/ath_pci.ko
[05:10] <flaccid> cyberponix: ok do this: sudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/net/ath_pci.ko && sudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/net/ath_pci.ko && sudo apt-get install --reinstall  linux-restricted-modules-generic && sudo depmod ath_pci
[05:11] <flaccid> console_jockey: http://www.cs.sun.ac.za/~akruger/guide/network.html <-- use talk or write and ensure mesg says 'y'
[05:11] <cyberponix> it gave me a warning....
[05:11] <flaccid> cyberponix: which warning?
[05:12] <cyberponix> could not read module ath_pci: No such file or directory
[05:12] <flaccid> that could be my bad.  file /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko  <-- what that say now?
[05:13] <cyberponix> same as before
[05:13] <flaccid> not found?
[05:13] <cyberponix> no such file or dirc
[05:14] <flaccid> cyberponix: sudo updatedb && sudo locate ath_pci.ko <-- where does it say it is?
[05:14] <cyberponix> sudo updatedb && sudo locate ath_pci.ko
[05:14] <cyberponix> hold on lol
[05:16] <cyberponix> /home/cyberponix/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007/ath/.ath_pci.ko.cmd
[05:16] <cyberponix> /home/cyberponix/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007/ath/ath_pci.ko
[05:17] <cyberponix> thoughts?
[05:17] <flaccid> cyberponix: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules <-- what does this say?
[05:19] <cyberponix> that went through just fine
[05:20] <flaccid> cyberponix: ok now do this: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath_pci
[05:21] <cyberponix> FATAL: Module ath_pci not found.
[05:22] <flaccid> cyberponix: check again to see where it is: sudo updatedb && sudo locate ath_pci.ko
[05:22] <flaccid> it comes with the package we just installed: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-generic/filelist
[05:22] <cyberponix> should I wget it?
[05:23] <flaccid> no!
[05:23] <cyberponix> k lol
[05:23] <flaccid> dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted-modules will tell you if its installed..
[05:24] <cyberponix> it is there
[05:24] <flaccid> where is there?
[05:25] <cyberponix> /home/cyberponix/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007/ath/.ath_pci.ko.cmd
[05:25] <cyberponix> /home/cyberponix/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007/ath/ath_pci.ko
[05:26] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25583/
[05:27] <flaccid> no. thats something you put in your homefolder. please run sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-generic
[05:27] <flaccid> ^^ reinstall the generic
[05:29] <cyberponix> k completed
[05:30] <flaccid> cyberponix: now what does this say? file /lib/modules/`uname -r`/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:31] <cyberponix> still the same
[05:31] <cyberponix> nothing
[05:31] <flaccid> wtf
[05:32] <cyberponix> i know right
[05:32] <anom01y> anyone here good at configuring alsa ?
[05:32] <cyberponix> hold look at this
[05:33] <anom01y> I just installed kubuntu latest version, and somethings wrong with alsa/kmix. http://pastebin.ca/1064346, I cant seem to figure this out
[05:33] <flaccid> cyberponix: try sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:33] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25585/
[05:34] <ubunturos> if I disable, my IDE / SATA Hdd on a computer, and install Kubuntu on a USB HDD, it wouldn't install GRUB on to my IDE /SATA HDD, but onto the USB HDD, right?
[05:34] <cyberponix> no such file
[05:35] <flaccid> ubunturos: yep
[05:36] <cyberponix> brb
[05:37] <flaccid> cyberponix: looks like it was removed in -19
[05:38] <cyberponix> i need a smoke brb
[05:45] <flaccid> cyberponix: let me know when you are back
[05:46] <cyberponix> back
[05:46] <ubunturos> hmm, the computer has no option in the BIOS to disable the HDD, how do I do it then?
[05:47] <lnx> hello , someone can help me with kubuntu 8.04 ?
[05:47] <ubunturos> !ask | lnx,
[05:47] <cyberponix> flaccid: back
[05:47] <flaccid> cyberponix: its not in that package, but i have it which is weird, give me a few seconds
[05:47] <cyberponix> k
[05:48] <lnx> ok i have installed now and i cang upgrade or update , can set langueage with kde settings and can install software with adept ( sources ) what i can do /?
[05:50] <flaccid> cyberponix: can you let me know what this does? sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic
[05:50] <flaccid> cyberponix: after that is re-installed, let me know what this says: sudo dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:51] <lnx> someone  ?
[05:52] <flaccid> lnx: i don't understand your question
[05:52] <lnx> flaccid , how i can fix the sources and all the apt-get stuff
[05:52] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25595/
[05:53] <flaccid> lnx: you can fix the sources in adept | manage repositories
[05:53] <anom01y> anyone here good at configuring alsa ?
[05:53] <lnx> flaccid , how ?
[05:53] <cyberponix> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:53] <flaccid> lnx: open adept manager and select manage repositories from the menu
[05:53] <flaccid> !adept > lnx
[05:54] <flaccid> cyberponix: now what does /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko say?
[05:55] <cyberponix> even sudoed command not found
[05:55] <flaccid> cyberponix: sorry:  file /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:55] <lnx> sudo: adept: command not found
[05:55] <lnx> this is the output
[05:55] <flaccid> lnx: try reading the tutorial...
[05:56] <flaccid> lnx: the command if you run it manual and not from the kmenu is kdesudo adept_manager
[05:56] <cyberponix> kate/
[05:56] <cyberponix> kate?
[05:56] <flaccid> cyberponix: no the command as above. file is a command...
[05:56] <flaccid> so the command is: file /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[05:57] <cyberponix> k
[05:57] <cyberponix> not stripped
[05:57] <flaccid> cyberponix: good. now do this: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci; sudo modprobe ath_pci
[05:58] <flaccid> cyberponix: after that you can check if its loaded with: lsmod | grep ath_pci
[05:58] <cyberponix> Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter
[05:59] <cyberponix> sudo modprobe -r ath_pci; sudo modprobe ath_pci
[05:59] <flaccid> run the command again and let me know if it gives the error again: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci; sudo modprobe ath_pci
[06:01] <cyberponix> it now says the same thing only now there is a (see dmesg)
[06:01] <flaccid> huh?
[06:02] <cyberponix> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/madwifi/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[06:02] <cyberponix> going to run dmesg
[06:02] <flaccid> yeah paste that
[06:04] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25599/
[06:04] <cyberponix> before warned it is long
[06:05] <flaccid> cyberponix: do a sudo depmod -a and if that doesn't do anything then reboot and come back
[06:06] <cyberponix> looks like I will be rebooting
[06:07] <flaccid> ok np
[06:07] <flaccid> i'll keep researching this as people have reported this problem
[06:08] <cyberponix> ok thank you so much man I have been very frusterated with this little issue bbs
[06:08] <flaccid> ok
[06:08] <cyberponix> oh hey do u need to know what laptop I have?
[06:08] <cyberponix> would that help?
[06:08] <Hydryad> okay is there anything I can do while installing to avert grub error 17, from the partitioner menu anyways?
[06:09] <Hydryad> it keeps coming up after reinstalling
[06:10] <cyberponix> well if you need to know it is a toshiba satellite p205-s7804 with atheros 5007 wifi
[06:13] <flaccid> wb
[06:13] <cyberponix> thnx
[06:13] <cyberponix> I may have found something on the other comp to help hold on a sec
[06:14] <flaccid> Hydryad:  This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[06:16] <Hydryad> so.. I partition some free space at the end of a drive that also has a ntfs partition... would that be why?
[06:16] <Hydryad> partitioned*
[06:18] <flaccid> Hydryad: menu.lst has a wrong root entry
[06:18] <Hydryad> how do I rectify something like that?
[06:19] <flaccid> Hydryad: goto konsole and run sudo grub then in the grub prompt run find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:19] <sigma_12> whats the .ICEauthority file for? sometimes i fail to boot into kde4.1 because of it
[06:20] <Hydryad> this is a non-booting machine period, I installed and it never has booted
[06:20] <Hydryad> and the graphical os doesn't work for livecd
[06:20] <Hydryad> it gives out-of-range errors on my monitor
[06:20] <flaccid> Hydryad: you can do it from grub itself
[06:20] <Hydryad> when the grub error 17 message pops up?
[06:21] <flaccid> Hydryad: does that message pop up straight away or after you select a grub entry?
[06:21] <Hydryad> straight away
[06:21] <flaccid> reinstall grub then
[06:21] <Hydryad> well I am right now... but what should I do differently
[06:21] <flaccid> !grubfix | Hydryad
[06:22] <flaccid> !fixgrub | Hydryad
[06:27] <anom01y> how do I get flash player to work (what is the package) ?
[06:29] <Hydryad> hmm now it gives me error 22
[06:29] <flaccid> Hydryad: google tells you what the errors mean
[06:29] <flaccid> !flash | anom01y
[06:29] <Hydryad> I am googling
[06:30] <Hydryad> "grub error 22" has not actually given me a definition of it
[06:30] <cyberponix> anom01y: go to a webpage that needs flash if u are using firefox a yellowish tab will apper click and install
[06:30] <Hydryad> ah there it is
[06:31] <Hydryad> wait, no partition exists where grub is looking... not good
[06:31] <flaccid> Hydryad: but you can get to grub prompt now right?
[06:33] <Hydryad> trying to at least, but the error pops up too fast
[06:33] <cyberponix> flaccid: have you come up with anything yet?
[06:33] <flaccid> cyberponix: im waiting for you
[06:34] <cyberponix> flaccid: oh lol sorry
[06:34] <cyberponix> what do u think about this
[06:34] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25611/
[06:34] <Hydryad> thanks for all the help, unfortunately my monitors not liking the default settings does complicate any sort of recovery operation with the disk
[06:35] <anom01y> anyone here know much about alsa ?
[06:35] <anom01y> #alsa is dead
[06:35] <flaccid> cyberponix: i think its crap. you do not need to manual install. show me the error messages in /var/log/messages after the reboot. thats what i was waiting for.
[06:36] <flaccid> Hydryad: see http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html . i don't know how to fix grub 22..
[06:36] <cyberponix> no such file or direct
[06:36] <flaccid> cyberponix: what?
[06:37] <cyberponix> thats what it says
[06:37] <flaccid> cyberponix: typing something like that means nothing to a helper.
[06:37] <flaccid> what is 'it'?
[06:37] <cyberponix> the var/log/messages
[06:38] <cyberponix> smack me around if i NEED IT LOL
[06:38] <anom01y> cyberponix: isnt there a package I can install
[06:38] <cyberponix> again thnx for the help
[06:38] <anom01y> instead of going through the web site ect
[06:38] <flaccid> cyberponix: it doesn't help. pastebin the log!
[06:38] <cyberponix> for flash?
[06:38] <anom01y> yes
[06:39] <anom01y> mozilla'
[06:39] <cyberponix>  var/log/messages
[06:39] <cyberponix> bash: var/log/messages: No such file or director
[06:39] <flaccid> exact error messages are what helps not, re-typing something else...
[06:39] <flaccid> cyberponix: its /var/log/messages
[06:39] <cyberponix> go to flash.com
[06:39] <flaccid> anom01y: read the guide ubottu pasted.
[06:39] <anom01y> there is no help on that guide for hardy heron
[06:40] <cyberponix> do I do that through kate?
[06:40] <anom01y> just dappy feisty, edgy, and dapper
[06:40] <anom01y> lol
[06:41] <flaccid> anom01y: follow feisty directions
[06:41] <flaccid> cyberponix:
[06:41] <p_quarles> anom01y, it's the same process for Hardy
[06:41] <flaccid> cyberponix: you can copy it from kate /var/log/messages
[06:42] <flaccid> Hydryad: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/749
[06:43] <flaccid> Hydryad: make sure there is not another boot disk in the system on boot eg. cdrom, usb disk etc.
[06:43] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25615/
[06:43] <cyberponix> there it is flaccid
[06:44] <flaccid> cyberponix: run sudo modprobe -r ath_pci; sudo modprobe ath_pci and let me know what it does and puts in dmesg
[06:47] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25618/
[06:48] <flaccid> looks like the one from the pkg is compiled with wrong version or something
[06:49] <cyberponix> ok so what should I do re-install the os and start fresh?
[06:49] <cyberponix> it's pissin me off bout that much
[06:49] <flaccid> cyberponix: you have mixed something up in terms of versions somewhere or ubuntu has. lets try the driver from madwifi again. one sec i give you script
[06:50] <cyberponix> k
[06:50] <anom01y> what is multiverse and how do I enable it ?
[06:51] <flaccid> !repos | anom01y
[06:52] <flaccid> manage repos in adept manager anom01y
[06:52] <flaccid> cyberponix: let me test this first ok
[07:06] <cyberponix> flaccid: not working too well?
[07:16] <dsmith_> how can I reinstall kde desktop? kubuntu-desktop?? anything esle I should include??
[07:17] <dsmith_> I went and installed ubuntu desktop, but when I removed it later, I thnk I removed too mnay things
[07:18] <holycow> *hmm*
[07:18] <dsmith_> hmmm?
[07:18] <holycow> in kde3 i used to have the wireless applet
[07:18] <holycow> is there a similar gui standalone app available for kde now that i'm running kde4?
[07:20] <flaccid> cyberponix: phone call won't be long now.
[07:21] <flaccid> cyberponix: run this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25625/
[07:22] <flaccid> we have to use this driver because it over wrote the other mods before and to reinstall would probably take a bit of time working out what needs to be reinstalled
[07:23] <flaccid> cyberponix: show me tail -n40 /var/log/messages after you have done that
[07:28] <cyberponix> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25626/
[07:29] <flaccid> cyberponix: that are not the commands i pasted
[07:29] <flaccid> cyberponix: run them exactly as per http://paste.ubuntu.com/25625/
[07:29] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25625/
[07:30] <cyberponix> that where I was
[07:30] <flaccid> cd madwifi-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz is a wrong command..
[07:31] <cyberponix> k redoing
[07:32] <cyberponix> ok even copy and past same thing
[07:32] <flaccid> copy and paste is the easiest when available
[07:33] <cyberponix> I am still getting the same results as I just posted
[07:33] <cyberponix> no suchfile or directory
[07:33] <flaccid> not possible, i have tested the script!
[07:34] <flaccid> cyberponix: cd /tmp/madwifi-nr-r3366+ar5007; make && sudo make install
[07:34] <mlody> how i can add to autostart emerald --replace??
[07:34] <flaccid> !autostart | mlody
[07:34] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25628/
[07:35] <cyberponix> could i be missing something a depackage or something?
[07:36] <flaccid> cyberponix: just cd into the madwifi directotry in /tmp ...
[07:36] <cyberponix> I know that a .tar.gz file is compressed maybe I am missing a decompessor
[07:36] <Jucato> cyberponix: try tar xzvf <filename.tar.gz>
[07:36] <Jucato> you can press Tab to autocomplete the filename
[07:37] <Jucato> take note where it decompresses to
[07:38] <cyberponix> that worked
[07:39] <Jucato> afaik, the f in xzf should always be last, and followed by the filename... not really sure, but that's how I do it anyway :)
[07:39] <cyberponix> or not still no file or directory
[07:39] <Jucato> "ls"?
[07:40] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25630/
[07:41] <flaccid> cyberponix: cd madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007; make; sudo make install
[07:43] <dlee> hey guys, anybody else having firefox 3 slowdowns when dragging selections?
[07:43] <cyberponix> ok do i contenue with the script now?
[07:43] <flaccid> cyberponix: did it make and install?
[07:44] <cyberponix> looks like it want me to post it?
[07:44] <flaccid> sure
[07:44] <flaccid> if it did, then you can then do sudo modprobe -r ath_pci; sudo modprobe ath_pci
[07:45] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25631/
[07:46] <cyberponix> wanna make sure first?
[07:46] <flaccid> nope cyberponix, just run sudo modprobe -r ath_pci; sudo modprobe ath_pci
[07:48] <cyberponix> nothing happened
[07:48] <flaccid> thats a good thing cyberponix. now check tail -n15 /var/log/messages to see if it loaded correctly
[07:48] <cyberponix> kate right?
[07:49] <flaccid> no. the above is a command
[07:49] <cyberponix> k
[07:50] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25632/
[07:50] <flaccid> looks good cyberponix. restart knetworkmanager if you need to
[07:51] <cyberponix> wilt it last timel it still work after i reboot? thats where i los
[07:51] <cyberponix> for now it works great!!!!
[07:52] <flaccid> as long as ath_pci is in /etc/modules then it should. if it doesn't then as usual check the log
[07:52] <Jabop> anyone familiar with KVpnc?
[07:52] <cyberponix> thank you, you have been on for a very long time and i thank you
[07:52] <flaccid> cyberponix: i'll wait here if you wanna try a reboot
[07:52] <cyberponix> i am going to reboot just to check bbs
[07:52] <flaccid> cyberponix: also keep in mind if you upgrade kernel you will have to reinstall the driver again
[07:57] <dsmith_> anyone have an idea what would cause KDE to alg opening windows
[07:57] <dsmith_> when there is no drive activity?
[07:58] <dsmith_> *lag
[08:01] <cyberponix> flaccid: dude u frickin rock!!!!!
[08:01] <flaccid> cyberponix: why thank you :)
[08:01] <flaccid> just keep in mind the if you change the kernel..
[08:02] <cyberponix> for real thank you!!! i saved all the code and have it backed up so just in case I can recover
[08:03] <flaccid> cyberponix: sweet y0 np. so its just a case of extracting that driver in /tmp and building it and installing it after a kernel change and it should be sweet
[08:04] <cyberponix> man u rock!!!
[08:04] <flaccid> thanks again!
[08:05] <cyberponix> lol now to get some ahm *cough* tools lol
[08:06] <flaccid> tools?
[08:06] <cyberponix> wifi sniffers and such... I know what I need and where to get em
[08:07] <flaccid> cool
[08:09] <mefisto__> KSystemLog will not start. the window opens, and a "loading progress" window too, but both windows are blank (nothing displayed). No error messages when starting in terminal.
[08:09] <flaccid> mefisto__: report a bug
[08:09] <flaccid> you could also do a strace ksystemlog
[08:11] <mefisto__> flaccid: how do I do that? just type: strace ksystemlog? and what will that tell me?
[08:13] <flaccid> mefisto__: yeah and look for errors etc.
[08:14] <sonoftheclayr> How do I find out what module my network card uses?
[08:16] <flaccid> sonoftheclayr: it will say in lshw
[08:16] <sonoftheclayr> Thanks
[08:17] <flaccid> np
[08:41] <soda> hey can anyone help me set up my g force card so i can use my s vid for my tv
[08:42] <soda> hello
[08:43] <flaccid> soda: #nvidia or http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#TwinView
[08:48] <soda> THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[08:49] <flaccid> np. and you don't need to shout it
[08:55] <soda> hey how do i make the 3d box work and all that cool stuff sorry  am new to Linux
[08:56] <bigcat> :)
[08:56] <bigcat> I'm too
[08:57] <bigcat> how do use effect in kubuntu8.04
[08:58] <bigcat> please tell me!!
[08:59] <flaccid> !effects
[08:59] <flaccid> if you use kde4, goto #kubuntu-kde4
[09:32] <KalThaeden[EK]> I have a question, this is basically a Kubuntu community based room, right. So if someone has a question, anyone can answer?
[09:35] <el-gokulo> yeah
[09:35] <KalThaeden[EK]> cool
[09:38] <cyberponix> has anyone been having isssues with dvd's playing?
[09:39] <flaccid> probably
[09:40] <KalThaeden[EK]> what type of problems?
[09:41] <KalThaeden[EK]> there are the missing codec problems. also the type of problems where your dvd-rom isn't detected or configured right.
[09:41] <KalThaeden[EK]> or properly.
[09:42] <flaccid> its always better to ask about your problem specifically, otherwise there is no point
[09:44] <PecisDarbs> Hi people, Kbabel has aspell support, but only when installed on Kubuntu. On Ubuntu it has only ispell support. Any suggestions for packages (except full blown kubuntu-desktop) to make Kbabel work with aspell?
[09:51] <Maho> set aspell as global used engine in kontrolcenter (somewhere around kde-components or so).
[09:55] <naught101> I have a one page pdf, that I want to double up (2 A5 pages on one A4 page). The scaling and rotating works fine, but the pdf output only has one copy of the original, and one blank half
[09:55] <naught101> anyone have any idea how to fix that?
[09:55] <naught101> I have already tried printing 2 copies - same thing
[09:55] <tuxwulf> is there any way to install soem KDE desktop that is not  plasma?
[09:56] <flaccid> tuxwulf: plasma is a part of kde4, not a desktop environment
[09:58] <tuxwulf> .. I guess I am not clear what is exactly KDE nor desktop environment then, but either way, seems not. BIG pity.
[09:58] <Jucato> tuxwulf: use KDE 3.5
[09:59] <PecisDarbs> Maho: thanks :)
[09:59] <bushwakko> is it possible for a ubuntu user to play around with the newest kde4.1 stuff?
[10:00] <PecisDarbs> bushwakko: #kubuntu-kde4 channel
[10:00] <PecisDarbs> bushwakko: there is PPA in topic, enable it and apt-get kde4 away, just be warned - it is beta, after all :)
[10:01] <bushwakko> yes
[10:01] <bushwakko> but i just want to play anyway ;)
[10:02] <bushwakko> where is the ppa did you say?
[10:02] <flaccid> wrong chan bushwakko
[10:02] <PecisDarbs> bushwakko: see in #kubuntu-kde4 channel topic, there is line 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main'
[10:03] <PecisDarbs> ok
[10:03] <bushwakko> ok.
[10:03] <bushwakko> nvm
[10:23] <binskipy2u> anyone know how to enable fast user switching on kubuntu?
[10:23] <binskipy2u> i have to shut down the computer and restart to get back to log in screen
[10:24] <flaccid> is that after launching another session?
[10:24] <binskipy2u> i click on "log off"
[10:24] <binskipy2u> figured that would take me back to user list in login screen
[10:24] <binskipy2u> i have to do a hard reboot
[10:24] <binskipy2u> just to get back to kde log in
[10:25] <binskipy2u> reason i'm asking, i installed kubuntu 8.04.1 amd64
[10:25] <binskipy2u> and i installed kde4
[10:25] <tuxwulf> Jucato > Yes, that's what I am doing..
[10:25] <binskipy2u> and made up a username jkust to check it out
[10:25] <binskipy2u> i have both enviornments
[10:25] <flaccid> !enter | binskipy2u
[10:25] <binskipy2u> sorry
[10:26] <tuxwulf> Jucato > Which also means, no Kubuntu 8.04 or later for me
[10:26] <binskipy2u> let me try this again. I have both kde3 and 4 and made up a user to check out kde4, when i log off, screen goes black and i cant get to the log in screen
[10:26] <Jucato> tuxwulf: 8.04 has KDE 3 by default
[10:26] <binskipy2u> unless i turn off the power button. is there any way to enable user switching?
[10:27] <flaccid> binskipy2u: oh thats a bug
[10:27] <flaccid> binskipy2u: are you full up to date?
[10:27] <binskipy2u> so now i can NEVER hit ctl/alt/backspace in an emergency
[10:27] <binskipy2u> lol
[10:27] <binskipy2u> yes
[10:27] <binskipy2u> full new installl today
[10:27] <binskipy2u> first week on my new 64bit pc
[10:27] <flaccid> binskipy2u put your response on 1 line!
[10:27] <binskipy2u> after using a 6 yr old computer
[10:28] <tuxwulf> Jucato > It does? Completely missed that. Dowenloaded the first desktop live CD I could find on the kubuntu site: kde 4...
[10:28] <flaccid> binskipy2u: do you have proposed updates enabled?
[10:28] <binskipy2u> let me check.
[10:28] <Jucato> !khardy | tuxwulf
[10:29] <tuxwulf> Jucato > Thanks. I will take another look.
[10:29] <binskipy2u> i seem to have everything enabled in the repos.
[10:30] <Jucato> tuxwulf: and I'm figuring that most of what's keeping you away from KDE 4 will be gone by 4.1 (Kubuntu 8.10) or 4.2 (Kubuntu 9.04)
[10:30] <flaccid> binskipy2u: which video card and driver are you using?
[10:30] <X2683>
[10:30] <binskipy2u> i seen a fast user switch applet , but it seems like thats for Ubuntu proper.. not kubuntu, i'm using an ATI 3200 HD video card
[10:31] <binskipy2u> i'm using the restricted driver that popped up after install, so i installed it
[10:31] <flaccid> binskipy2u: what you are talking about is not fast user switching, it is just logging out. see bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/223445 amonst other reports...
[10:31] <flaccid> binskipy2u: i also use ati restricted driver and crash at least 5 times a day :(
[10:33] <tuxwulf> Jucato >... Well I hope so... I am kind of fond of my kubuntu, it hurts a little to see it go the way that it looks to be going...
[10:33] <flaccid> binskipy2u: can you pastebin this? dpkg -l | grep fglrx; apt-cache madison xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:33] <tuxwulf> Jucato > But eh, on the kubuntu.org site it feeds me kde 4 versions... By default... seems no other available. Guess I have to search special folders again or sth...
[10:34] <binskipy2u> damn sorry to hear that, it seems that after scanning thru those reports.. you just posted, most of'em are regarding compiz, i have that disabled, (only put that on to impress people that think vista is da' bomb) lool
[10:34] <Jucato> tuxwulf: what site does it feed you?
[10:34] <Jucato> tuxwulf: unless you're looking ath Kubuntu KDE 4 Remix
[10:34] <flaccid> binskipy2u: no its nothing to do with compiz.
[10:35] <tuxwulf> Jucato: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[10:35] <tuxwulf> I click Hardy Heron, not kde 4 remix
[10:35] <Jucato> tuxwulf: what country? what mirror are you choosing?
[10:35] <binskipy2u> im reading these... and i take it, i may have to just wait for a fix? in a future update
[10:36] <flaccid> binskipy2u: yes im waiting for the fix too, although they have no idea what the actual problem is and it affects not just ati people. there are many bug reports..
[10:36] <binskipy2u> its not a big deal, i am dual booting with vista, (only for photoshop cs2, and an all in one printer) and in 2 weeks i've only been in vista for bout an hour
[10:36] <flaccid> [19:33] <flaccid> binskipy2u: can you pastebin this? dpkg -l | grep fglrx; apt-cache madison xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:37] <binskipy2u> what do you mean pastebin?
[10:37] <flaccid> !pastebin | binskipy2u
[10:37] <tuxwulf> Jucato : Taiwan, I tried a couple of many. They may be listed there but are not always online/active or whatever, so whichever one works
[10:37] <binskipy2u> and type that command in a term?
[10:37] <binskipy2u> and pastebin the output?
[10:38] <tuxwulf> jucato : Then kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso  or torrent
[10:38] <flaccid> binskipy2u: yeah
[10:38] <Jucato> hm.. maybe the 8.04.1 Desktop CD is only available as KDE 4?
[10:39] <tuxwulf> YEs, that is what I figured, hence my sadness
[10:39] <binskipy2u> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25646/
[10:40] <tuxwulf> So at least my idea of what is the default in 8.04 is different
[10:40] <Jucato> tuxwulf: well, I'm not really sure. as far as 8.04 is concerned there are 2 separate versions
[10:41] <flaccid> binskipy2u: you don't have proposed enabled, but its in updates now and looks like the same package. so yeah not much we can both do. im using the same driver
[10:41] <binskipy2u> oh well
[10:41] <binskipy2u> just sucks that id have to hard re-boot if x crashes instead of just ctl/alt/bksp and bringing it right back up
[10:41] <tuxwulf> I am glad to find out KDE 3 is still available on this latest kubuntu version, though it seems to be chosen to become obsolete as it is...
[10:42] <binskipy2u> thank God that linux doesnt crash all that much , and this new computer kicks ass.. got a monster(to me, that is, since i dont play any games) of a computer system
[10:42] <flaccid> binskipy2u: indeed. i hard crash over 5 times a day. the weird thing is that i generally don't crash on logout, the fix they put in the proposed update fixed it for me but obviously not you
[10:42] <tuxwulf> got to go, sort of...
[10:43] <jaakkome> so how long 'till kde 4 becomes usable? :]
[10:43] <flaccid> could be quite a long time i reckon
[10:43] <binskipy2u> flaccid, could it be in "restricted backports"?
[10:43] <binskipy2u> main restricted universe multiverse
[10:44] <binskipy2u> thats the only one that i dont have checked off in synaptic
[10:44] <flaccid> i forget what it is called in adept but its http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/restricted and yeah its the same package it seems anyway
[10:45] <binskipy2u> i dont have any of them at all that say the word proposed, should i open up adept instead
[10:45] <binskipy2u> and do it from there, see if that works
[10:46] <flaccid> binskipy2u: just need deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed universe main multiverse restricted (in your /etc/apt/sources.list)
[10:47] <jaakkome> I'm still having trouble with alsa.
[10:47] <jaakkome> anybody know how to get it to play sounds? ;)
[10:47] <flaccid> jaakkome: aplay
[10:48] <jaakkome> don't hear much
[10:48] <jaakkome> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1272:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Unknown field mmap_emulation
[10:49] <flaccid> i guess you have a problem then
[10:49] <jaakkome> oh dear
[10:49] <binskipy2u> flaccid.. i hate to ask a stupid question on that apt source you posted, where do i "stop" in copying
[10:50] <binskipy2u> to paste into sources list, i'm kinda new at a few things or at least getting used to doing things a different way
[10:50] <flaccid> binskipy2u: the line is: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed universe main multiverse restricted
[10:51] <binskipy2u> thanks
[10:51] <binskipy2u> damn i need a key
[10:53] <flaccid> yeah, thats why its better do it with adept
[10:54] <binskipy2u> just did
[10:54] <binskipy2u> 16, updates.. one of them er..2 of'em were x server related
[10:54] <flaccid> adept looks after the keys
[10:55] <binskipy2u> let me try it ill be back
[10:55] <flaccid> cool, that could definately be what you need as i no longer get the on logout hard crash like you..
[10:55] <flaccid> dang
[11:01] <binskipy2u> well flaccid, it didnt work, had to do 2 hard reboots, figured id just log off and it would work, since it didnt figured i had to restart the entire system instead
[11:01] <binskipy2u> then i tried again, and it didnt work that time either
[11:02] <flaccid> binskipy2u: unfortunate.
[11:02] <binskipy2u> is there a service, or package that i could be missing or should be started for user switching to occur?
[11:03] <flaccid> binskipy2u: no. i don't think you get it. its a bug.
[11:03] <flaccid> binskipy2u: you could try the normal driver instead of the restricted. ie. run kdesudo jockey-kde and disable the restricted
[11:04] <binskipy2u>  is atis linux driver from it's website "better" then the restricted one? from synaptic?
[11:05] <flaccid> binskipy2u: its the same
[11:05] <binskipy2u> oh well, this isnt a huge deal, i just set it to save all open apps in session
[11:05] <mefisto__> in konqueror, www.smh.com.au will crash konqueror, but www.theage.com.au (it's sister site with identical design and very similar content) loads fine. Any ideas why? (btw, I tried it in konqueror on an opensuse livecd and it did not crash)
[11:06] <binskipy2u> so if worse comes to worse, and i'm doing something important, everything will open up again the way i left it... so wont be so painfull to have to do a hard reboot
[11:07] <mefisto__> can someone confirm for me that www.smh.com.au does crash konqueror?
[11:07] <flaccid> mefisto__: yep it does for me
[11:08] <pag> mefisto__, doesn't crash here.
[11:08] <flaccid> mefisto__: it doesn't in konqueror-kde4 however. i would submit a bug
[11:08] <fulat2k> hi folks, my desktop is running on a dist-upgraded hardy from feisty.  i installed compiz before i upgraded and now i can't seem to get the nice alt-tab switching plugins.  any idea how to reset the settings and get the defaults for Hardy?
[11:09] <fulat2k> mefisto__: crashes for me here as well
[11:09] <flaccid> fulat2k: compiz fusion help is in #compiz-fusion
[11:10] <djwisdom> Konqueror Version 4.0.5 (KDE 4.0.5) doesn't crash when loading www.smh.com.au
[11:10] <fulat2k> flaccid: thx
[11:10] <flaccid> np
[11:14] <flaccid> bbs
[11:43] <sigma_12> how do i mount a .bin image file?
[11:43] <flaccid> !iso
[11:43] <lakis1982> hiii..  i have downloaded a racing game for linux called    racer .... tha file was  in    .run format and i installed it .... now how can i uninstall the game ????
[11:43] <flaccid> like that if the .bin is an actual iso and not an executable
[11:44] <flaccid> lakis1982: see the doco of the 3rd party vendor
[11:44] <lakis1982> what you mean?
[11:44] <flaccid> lakis1982: the game should of came with uninstall instructions.
[11:45] <lakis1982> there are not any
[11:45] <flaccid> sigma_12: you also may need to convert with http://he.fi/bchunk/ which is probably in the repos
[11:46] <flaccid> lakis1982: not a good 3rd party vendor then
[11:46] <lakis1982> listen listen
[11:46] <lakis1982> i went into the game folder
[11:47] <lakis1982> its in    /usr/local/games/racer    ......  in there there exists a file saying uninstall  .... its a shell script ... can i do something with it in order to uninstall the game?
[11:47] <flaccid> lakis1982: probably, thats probably what it is for
[11:47] <lakis1982> what can i do wiht it ?
[11:48] <mefisto__> lakis1982: what did you need to do to install the game?
[11:48] <flaccid> run it with sudo
[11:48] <flaccid> [20:43] <lakis1982> hiii..  i have downloaded a racing game for linux called    racer .... tha file was  in    .run format and i installed it .... now how can i uninstall the game ????
[11:49] <lakis1982> you mean to type .... sudo /usr/local/games/racer/uninstall   ???
[11:49] <Andy_D_1975> Hi there, when downloading kubuntu-8.04.1-dvd-i386, I repeatedly get a specific MD5 which differs from the one given on the site. The DVD won't start (neither live nor installation nor memory test), and when trying to run the umenu.exe in Windows, I get "invalid cd detected". Any suggestion? Thanks a lot!
[11:51] <flaccid> lakis1982: yeah if thats the location of the uninstall script
[11:51] <lakis1982> ok i went to the games dir   with the    cd command
[11:51] <lakis1982> now i should type what ??? sudo uninstall ?
[11:52] <flaccid> lakis1982: sudo ./uninstall if you are in the pwd
[11:52] <lakis1982> what is pwd?
[11:52] <flaccid> present working directory
[11:53] <lakis1982> it says could not find a usable uninstall programm
[11:54] <flaccid> ah well. this is the problem with 3rd party providers that don't have doco. where do you d/l this thing from?
[11:55] <lakis1982> www.racer.nl
[11:56] <flaccid> lakis1982: and you didn't bother reading the documentation on their site?
[11:57] <lakis1982> no
[11:58] <Dr_willis> Its using the loki installer according to their site.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> neat looking little game.. i may try it later.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Looks like one can just delete the racer directory. and its uninstalled.  :) how old-skool
[12:00] <flaccid> yes but the question is about files outside of that directory it could of installed
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Yep. the 'alternatve' install docs are basicially 'unzip here, run ./racer'   im not on a linux box to test at this time however.
[12:02] <flaccid> someone should complain to them about lack of instructions to uninstall
[12:06] <Dr_willis> the windows versions just unzips to a single dir.  - yea... i am driving a car... :) heh heh..
[12:06] <Dr_willis> back to work
[12:09] <RurouniJones> possibly an unanswerable question but what is the general consensus as to which is better? Qemu or Virtualbox>
[12:11] <Dr_willis> I thought virtualbox was based on qemu.
[12:12] <Dr_willis> Virtualbox has a nice gui, and contrll tools. and so forth. I tend to use it a lot when testing livecds
[12:16] <markit> recent kernel (2.6.24-19)  makes my usb keyboard and mice attached to the laptop not to be recognized, any clue? (with 2.6.24-18 and previous works fine)
[12:16] <markit> I'm using kubuntu 8.0.4
[12:28] <binskipy2u> flaccid thanks for all your help, i found this awesome 'buntu speed tweak site.. i posted the site on the ubuntu forums,many said they used it, and it worked..so i did them all, and noticed a 10sec boot time difference..
[12:28] <binskipy2u> http://www.salatti.net/tweak-ubuntu-for-speed/
[12:30] <flaccid> cool, well sort of cool
[12:31] <flaccid> you would get faster boot time by cutting out unused services, but boot time is nearly irrelevant as performance is judged once you are booted
[12:31] <Dr_willis> 10 sec boot time gain. when one has several month+ Uptimes :)
[12:31] <binskipy2u> yeah but what the heck, just cant find an innitab file.. wher it says it should be in /etc
[12:31] <binskipy2u> i know ive seen that file in other distros in the etc folder
[12:33] <Pici> binskipy2u: Ubuntu doesn't use inittab, see /etc/rc.local and update-rc.d
[12:33] <Pici> !upstart
[12:34] <Dr_willis> ive never heard of that 'profile' tip that site mentions.
[12:35] <flaccid> people are never happy with out of box, they have to try to 'tweak' it
[12:35] <binskipy2u> its that what's linux all about.. tweaking and doing things under the hood
[12:36] <binskipy2u> so to speak.. configuring every lil thing... almost like braggin gentoo users
[12:36] <Pici> binskipy2u: That article is over a year old.
[12:36] <binskipy2u> still works
[12:37] <flaccid> no thats not what linux is about at all :)
[12:37] <Dr_willis> Pici,  i noticed that also...
[12:38] <Dr_willis> the Concurrent booting  - seems to have potential  :)  at least i now that i have new dualcore machines
[12:38] <binskipy2u> i just got my first 64bit and new computer in 6 years
[12:38] <flaccid> i don't get that part as SMP is supported in the generic kernel..
[12:39] <binskipy2u> triple core 8450 amd.. i'm still impressed
[12:39] <Dr_willis> i was thinking that specific services could spawn to the background was what concurrent booting does.. but i will have to test it out later.
[12:50] <toshatosha> опять хрень на русском писать, чтоб на другой какнал переключиться :( вечно забываю в память его занести :(
[12:51] <Githzerai> !ru | toshatosha
[13:34] <JuJuBee> How do I make my external HD automount on /media/400G ?  It is currently mounting as /media/disk.  However when I go to Storage Media using Dolphin, it shows as 400G
[13:36] <flaccid> JuJuBee: how did you go in disks & filesystems?
[13:36] <JuJuBee> System settings crashes when I try to run it.
[13:37] <flaccid> JuJuBee: is this kde3?
[13:37] <JuJuBee> Yes, but I have kde4 installed also
[13:37] <JuJuBee> I am using 3 for now
[13:37] <flaccid> JuJuBee: run it like this kdesudo /usr/bin/systemsettings and then see if it crashes when you click on it
[13:38] <JuJuBee> Crashes after I enter sudo password
[13:39] <flaccid> JuJuBee: ok. run kdesudo kate /etc/fstab then pastebin the contents and leave it open for editing
[13:40] <JuJuBee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25673/
[13:44] <JuJuBee> what is the diff between using sudo and kdesudo ?
[13:46] <JuJuBee> flaccid : now what do I do?
[13:48] <flaccid> sorry JuJuBee one sec
[13:48] <JuJuBee> K
[13:48] <ronr> hi, I run kubuntu on my r1e laptop, sounds works but has near unhearable volume and if I put in headphones, I don't hear anything, any clues?
[13:48] <flaccid> am cooking pasta too 1sec
[13:48] <ronr> btw, r1e is the asus r1e laptop
[13:49] <flaccid> JuJuBee: what is your mount | grep /media/disk ?
[13:50] <psycholic> did something change in kde 4 or the new kernel i'm having problems mounting one of my drives
[13:50] <JuJuBee> flaccid : blank, I manually mounted the volume on /media/400G
[13:50] <psycholic> it says i need to specify a os
[13:50] <psycholic> or filesystem
[13:51] <psycholic> that is in refence to say fat32/16
[13:52] <JuJuBee> flaccid : however mount | grep /dev/sdb1 says /dev/sdb1 on /media/400G type ext3 (rw)
[13:53] <flaccid> thanks JuJuBee
[13:53] <JuJuBee> welcome
[13:54] <JuJuBee> It used to be FAT32 and I named the drive under windows as 400G and it used to mount that way.  However, since I  never use the drive with windows now I reformatted it ext3.
[13:55] <flaccid> JuJuBee: add the extra line to fstab then sudo umount /media/400G; sudo mount -a
[13:55] <JuJuBee> What happens when the disk is not connected?
[13:56] <ronr> how can I increase the volume in kubuntu? I got kmix set to the top and my application as well
[13:56] <flaccid> JuJuBee: it won't mount and when you do connect it hald should respect it. you can take out the auto option and replace with noauto if you want
[13:56] <TheKiNG|Linux> Hello, after updating xorg, my resolutions dont go where they need to be
[13:57] <TheKiNG|Linux> i can no longer get 1024x768
[13:57] <JuJuBee> flaccid : so enter /dev/sdb1    /media/400G    ext3    auto    0  0  ?
[14:03] <flaccid> JuJuBee: yeah
[14:06] <JuJuBee> thanks flaccid
[14:07] <JuJuBee> Enjoy the pasta...
[14:07] <flaccid> mad
[14:07] <ronr> apparently sounds issues are really hard on kubuntu.. I'll reboot to vista :(
[14:08] <Jabop> Is anyone familiar with kvpnc?
[14:13] <pierre__> Hello! can anyone tell me how I can get my original inlog handeling back in kde 3.5
[14:21] <Linutauro> MSG NickServ VERIFY REGISTER linutauro fgxtvitbxbvv
[14:22] <Schorfi> :/
[14:23] <ubunturos> wops, was that an encrypted password?
[14:23] <White_Lightning> lol
[14:24] <flaccid> i didn't think irc has encrypted passwords :O
[14:25] <ubunturos> hmm, that probably calls for a "feature". Errors such as these should display encrypted passwords
[14:25] <vbgunz> konqueror: WARNING: getJSEventListener: event listener already found but with html=true - please report this, we thought it would never happen
[14:26] <flaccid> huh heh
[14:26] <vbgunz> could this be why I lose all control of stdin? I cannot type anything into any program lately... konqueror freezes and so does kmail... anyone know whats up?
[14:26] <flaccid> vbgunz: submit a bug
[14:26] <Kamugo> HI!
[14:26] <flaccid> !hi
[14:27] <vbgunz> flaccid: I don't know what could be causing not being able to type into any opened program or shortcuts not working
[14:29] <Kamugo> someone know how to display the windows of the current desktop in COmpiz!?
[14:29] <Kamugo> and not all the windows of all desktops
[14:32] <Jucato> Kamugo: you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion to get better answers
[14:46] <malder> SOS!
[14:47] <morvan> Allo ?
[14:47] <morvan> Sa marche ?
[14:47] <malder> Зравствуйте? кто можт помочь с установкой мозилы под Убунту?
[14:47] <Dededede4> >...<
[14:48] <Dededede4> malder est moi on est fait pour se conprendre :°
[14:48] <malder> Утпдшыр здя
[14:48] <malder> English plz
[14:49] <Dededede4> ok
[14:49] <malder> can you help me to install Mozilla??
[14:49] <user1> opdracht niet gevonden polish plz
[14:50] <user1> opdracht niet gevonden polish plz
[14:50] <user1> opdracht niet gevonden polish plz
[14:50] <engineer> !pl
[14:50] <Dededede4> No flood pleaz x_x
[14:50] <engineer> malder sudo aptitude install firefox-3.0
[14:50] <thewhitepelican> does anyone here use wine?
[14:50] <Dededede4> >...<
[14:50] <Dededede4> Y'a des francais :D
[14:50] <Dededede4> ?
[14:51] <Dededede4> Non ?
[14:51] <Dededede4> Ro >;<
[14:51] <thewhitepelican> je ne parle pas francais
[14:51] <Dededede4> COOL
[14:51] <Dededede4> :D
[14:51] <engineer> knock it off will ya
[14:51] <Dededede4> You pseak anglish ?
[14:51] <engineer> !offtopic
[14:52] <Dededede4> >...<
[14:52] <Githzerai> !ru | malder
[14:53] <thewhitepelican> still waiting for an answer
 СПАСИБО!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:55] <engineer> thewhitepelican what question
[14:55] <engineer> oh
[14:55] <engineer> no i don't
[14:56] <thewhitepelican> there isa a procedure to follow prior to using wine, but I don't know what iti s
[14:56] <Dr_willis_> there is?
[14:56] <Dr_willis_> Ive never noticed a procedure.. other then installing wine.
[14:56] <thewhitepelican> as far as I remember from using another distro, yes
[14:57] <Dr_willis_> the old winesetup tool isent really needed these days
[14:57] <thewhitepelican> I think you need to run a procedure to set up a /windows/* folder system
[14:57] <Daisuke_Ido> thewhitepelican: you haven't had to do that in a very long time
[14:57] <thewhitepelican> I just recall that in Gentoo, you had to do something
[14:58] <Dr_willis_> in gentoo you have to do a lot of things..
[14:58] <Dr_willis_> the .wine directory is made for you when you furst run wine in ubuntu
[14:59] <engineer> touche
[15:00] <thewhitepelican> Daisuke_Ido, I had no idea
[15:00] <flaccid> !wine | thewhitepelican
[15:00] <thewhitepelican> so essentially, just install whatever programs you want?
[15:00] <flaccid> ie. run winecfg after installing wine
[15:00] <thewhitepelican> oh ok
[15:00] <flaccid> !appdb | thewhitepelican needs to compat first
[15:02] <Jabop> I'm having an issue with Kvpnc. I can successfully connect to my vpn, but if I restart X and log back in and try reconnecting to the vpn, the authorization is failed. Anyone have any idea what could cause this?
[15:03] <thewhitepelican> I will check that out, thanks
[15:04] <flaccid> Jabop: i don't think somebody can help today..
[15:05] <Jabop> flaccid: umm okay?
[15:05] <flaccid> if someone could of helped then they would of already. you have repeated many many times
[15:06] <joshOvki> hey, how do is schedule a disk check on boot?
[15:06] <flaccid> joshOvki: once off or every boot?
[15:06] <joshOvki> flaccid: one off
[15:06] <thewhitepelican> wow, once more ubuntu impresses me :) it's all in black and white about what to do about wine
[15:07] <joshOvki> easier to boot into safemode?
[15:08] <flaccid> joshOvki: checking the right way to do it
[15:08] <Guest72197> I've an error during compilation of a program, it's the error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:09] <Chrysalis> does yahoo not work with konqueror?
[15:10] <flaccid> kamugo: did you install build-essential or a c compiler?
[15:10] <flaccid> Chrysalis: it should
[15:11] <Chrysalis> doesnt ;/ do i need to change it to identify as firefox?
[15:11] <Chrysalis> i get the 'why miss out' page about supported browsers
[15:11] <kamugo> flaccid: no
[15:11] <flaccid> joshOvki: a few options. the best is probably logout to kdm then goto a tty and restart with shutdown -r -F now which will forcefsk
[15:11] <flaccid> !build | kamugo
[15:12] <joshOvki> thanks flaccid, i will give that a go
[15:12] <flaccid> Chrysalis: ah yeah yahoo does UA sniffing which is not good
[15:12] <flaccid> joshOvki: np
[15:12] <Chrysalis> flaccid: so what do i need to do?
[15:12] <kamugo> ubottu: thanks
[15:13] <flaccid> Chrysalis: goto konv settings | configure and browser identification part
[15:13] <Chrysalis> flaccid: k to firefox?
[15:13] <flaccid> yeah that should be suffice Chrysalis
[15:15] <Chrysalis> flaccid: hmm, i thought there would be a global setting or a drop down menu, seems i can only do it per website
[15:16] <kamugo> new error in ./configure : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[15:17] <Pici> kamugo: install the xorg-dev package
[15:17] <flaccid> Chrysalis: yeah that would be a logical decision on the projects behalf. ie. not good to global UA spoof (for several reasons like incorrect browser metrics, condoning UA sniffing, consistancy etc.)
[15:18] <llutz> Moin
[15:18] <kamugo> thanks
[15:22] <Chrysalis> ok, another question, about installing subversion... probably the wrong place to ask but is there a how to wiki somewhere on installing
[15:23] <flaccid> !subversion | Chrysalis
[15:23] <user1> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[15:23] <user1> Xlib: No protocol specified
[15:23] <user1> (synaptic:8871): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[15:23] <user1> root@linux:/home/user1#
[15:23] <flaccid> !pastebin | user1
[15:23] <flaccid> user1: you are running a root shell in X which is run by the user. you cannot do this.
[15:23] <user1> plz polish
[15:23] <flaccid> !pl | user1
[15:24] <flaccid> user1: do not use a root shell (via su etc.). use sudo instead so you can have access to the X display
[15:24] <Jabop> sorry just came back.
[15:24] <Jabop> [10:05] <flaccid> if someone could of helped then they would of already. you have repeated many many times
[15:24] <Jabop> I believe I asked once before that.
[15:24] <Jabop> once != many times
[15:24] <kwtm> If we want to use Compiz in Kubuntu, do we install the package "compiz" (which is not installed by default)?  Or do we only need to install "compiz-kde" (which *is* installed by default)?  I can't seem to get any Compiz effects with the default config.
[15:25] <flaccid> Jabop: i recall more than once, perhaps it was in other channels too
[15:25] <flaccid> anyway this isn't going to find you someone to help you with your problem
[15:25] <Jabop> Right. I asked in Kubuntu and KDE, both logical areas of interest for this sort of question.
[15:26] <flaccid> !compiz | kwtm
[15:26] <Chrysalis> flaccid: i actually had the same problem as user1 and the problem was the the user dir was owned by root, not sure how it happened but remaking with adduser (i think) fixed it
[15:26] <Jabop> But thanks for your non help.
[15:26] <kkathman> how would I restart arts??
[15:27] <flaccid> Chrysalis: thats a different scenario, but similar. you don't need to re adduser either, but rather just change ownership on ~/
[15:27] <kkathman> for some reason, sound just quit.
[15:27] <flaccid> Jabop: my pleasure :)
[15:28] <flaccid> free support is free support. there are many times when somebody cannot help you.
[15:28] <Jabop> So next time I ask, I don't want you to chime in.
[15:28] <Chrysalis> flaccid: yea, tried that first but didnt work, apparently something went wrong the first time i made the user so i just remade
[15:28] <flaccid> Jabop: stop repeating and maybe i will stop 'chiming'
[15:28] <kwtm> flaccid: Thanks for the help.  On a somewhat related note: I copied over several of my config files from my old Kubuntu installation (7.04), and now I no loinger have "Desktop Effects" on my system settings.  Is there a particular config file (like .kde/share/config/ksystemsettingsrc or something) that I would modify (or restore) to bring back the Desktop Effects icon?
[15:28] <flaccid> Chrysalis: you probably didn't add the user correctly so it had a homedir or something
[15:28] <Jabop> I know that you don't know how to solve it, so I don't need to hear from you.
[15:29] <flaccid> Jabop: too bad.
[15:29] <flaccid> kwtm: not sure what you mean. where was this icon ?
[15:29] <Jabop> Can you change the motd?
[15:30] <Jabop> To "Don't ask questions more than once within 24 hours"
[15:30] <bazhang> Jabop, what is the issue
[15:30] <Chrysalis> flaccid: home dir was there, it just couldnt read .Xauthority even though it had full permissions to do so, anyway, it works now :)
[15:30] <Jabop> bazhang: The issue is, I don't think there should be any carrying on about me asking a question in a help channel.
[15:30] <DrSilent> so drop it already
[15:30] <DrSilent> jeezus
[15:30] <kwtm> flaccid: You said "System Settings -> Desktop Effects" (which I saw before).  But under System Settings, I no longer have the Desktop Effects, just ... you know, Printers, Accessibility, Network, etc.
[15:30] <flaccid> Chrysalis: oh thats a different situation. that file would have a lock on it from current session etc. anyway doesn't amtter
[15:30] <bazhang> Jabop, what was the kubuntu/ubuntu issue
[15:31] <Jabop> kvpnc failing auth after an X restart.
[15:31] <flaccid> kwtm: thats kde4 only
[15:31] <Chrysalis> flaccid: yes, 'couldnt get a lock' or something like that was the actual error i think
[15:31] <flaccid> Chrysalis: yep
[15:31] <bazhang> Jabop, how did you get it going? can you do so again? might this be a bug-->ie have you looked on launchpad
[15:32] <Jabop> bazhang: I can successfully connect to my vpn after a restart. It will work flawlessly up until X is restarted - then once logged back in, the auth fails. There are no other instances of kvpnc running.
[15:33] <flaccid> kde3 does not have desktop effects but you can try the experimental desktop-effects-kde pkg/binary
[15:33] <kwtm> flaccid: Oh.  And, sorry, I said that "you said" but actually that was ubotu.  Thanks anyway.
[15:33] <flaccid> np
[15:33] <bazhang> Jabop, right; what about the questions I just asked
[15:34] <Jabop> bazhang: I got it going by configuring the options properly. I ran the program. It works. If I need to connect again I have to completely restart. Yes.
[15:34] <flaccid> Jabop: also did you check the log on the vpn server. that should verify if its a wrong key etc.
[15:34] <Jabop> It is easily resolvable with a restart but I just dont think that is the best option.
[15:34] <bazhang> Jabop, it is a bug on launchpad then? if not you might wish to file one to make it better app
[15:34] <flaccid> !bugs | Jabop
[15:35] <Jabop> I suppose I could do so bazhang. flaccid - ms-chap fails auth, there isn't much info on the web about it, so I figured I'd ask here
[15:35] <bazhang> Jabop, when you say restart you mean restart the service or the computer
[15:35] <Jabop> The whole system
[15:35] <bazhang> oh
[15:36] <flaccid> i would start by submitting a bug with as much detail log the log entry as possible. if it keeps the config for the vpn connection and fails on a re-connect then that sounds like a bug to me
[15:36] <bazhang> Jabop, in future you may also consider asking in #ubuntu as there are a ton of helpers there as well.
[15:37] <Jabop> I figured I would get directed here as it is a KDE app
[15:37] <flaccid> doubt #ubuntu will won't to help with a k app
[15:37] <flaccid> and they never help me in there anyway heh
[15:37] <bazhang> Jabop, the underlying system is the same
[15:37] <bazhang> flaccid, because we know you :)
[15:38] <flaccid> yes bazhang but its a k application
[15:38] <bazhang> vpn is vpn though
[15:38] <flaccid> well every single time i've gone to #ubuntu and asked a question i never get a response and if i do its a waste of time
[15:38] <flaccid> yes but its being called from a k frontend
[15:38] <bazhang> the power of positive thinking :)
[15:39] <Jabop> What could be a bug in kubuntu may not be a bug in ubuntu :o
[15:39] <bazhang> never can tell :)
[15:39] <bazhang> plenty of kde users in there as well
[15:40] <flaccid> anyway point is submitting a bug report is going to help more than randomly asking here. i know this because not many people use kvpnc etc.
[15:40] <flaccid> bazhang: yeah but its not the right place to ask, here is
[15:51] <vbgunz> anyone know what has happened to the re module for python? I am having some serious re pattern matching problems, has to be the module :/
[15:55] <Guttern> Hi, I've KDE4, all it's correct except one thing, when I restart, all the icons and changes I do dissapear :S
[15:55] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 Guttern
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:57] <BluesKaj> hate to admit this , but samba seems terribly broken on Hardy
[16:00] <azinheira> help
[16:00] <Pici> !ask
[16:00] <azinheira> como registo o meu nick?
[16:02] <Pici> !register | azinheira
[16:02] <BluesKaj> !it | azinheira
[16:05] <azinheira> help
[16:07] <flaccid> BluesKaj: why you think its broken?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> flaccid, cuz it was working fine until I installed hardy, then it was intermittent , now it doesn't see the windows shares at all
[16:09] <flaccid> that doesn't mean anything. samba browsing/election is not simple. its dependant on all the clients and servers on the broadcast..
[16:09] <BluesKaj> tried various smb.conf fixes in the forums but my setup isn't responding at all
[16:09] <BluesKaj> I"m no t wirless
[16:09] <flaccid> define 'see'
[16:10] <azinheira> as
[16:10] <azinheira> as
[16:10] <azinheira> as
[16:10] <azinheira> as
[16:10] <azinheira> as
[16:10] <azinheira> as
[16:10] <flaccid> this has nothing to do with the connection type
[16:10] <Jucato> azinheira: stop that
[16:10] <azinheira> why?
[16:10] <Jucato> because you are flooding
[16:10] <azinheira> haha
[16:10] <Jucato> !pt | azinheira
[16:10] <azinheira> look
[16:12] <BluesKaj> flaccid, the smb:/ MSHOME share on the network doesn't list the windows pc , like it did in Gutsy...is that clear enuff ?
[16:13] <azinheira>  near the sea
[16:13] <azinheira> fuck all americans
[16:14] <flaccid> BluesKaj: yeah i heard you first time. you need to understand smb/nmb browsing/election ie. workgroup and local masters, os level etc..
[16:15] <flaccid> you most likely have an incorrect config or another client is causing a problem in election/browsing
[16:15] <flaccid> i assure you samba is not broken.
[16:17] <dBera> dbus-x11 does not start session dbus at login anymore and KDE does not start session dbus at login either ... is there any official way to rectify this ?
[16:17] <dBera> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beagle/+bug/207157/comments/25
[16:19] <BluesKaj> flaccid, ok then how do we " unwashed " fix the smb.conf file so that you "experts" can help us fix something that wasn't supposed to be broken in the fiorst place
[16:22] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  it does list the other pc's ? just one pc not showing up?
[16:23] <JoshOvki> hey again, ive screwed up Grub, im getting error 17
[16:23] <minhaaj> i can't back up my home through rsync back up
[16:24] <minhaaj> says file operation not permitted to some files
[16:24] <minhaaj> can someone help ?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, it's not listing the windows pc , the linux pc is listed intermittently , sometimes it's there , othertimes it "times out"
[16:25] <Jabop> Does anyone know the option to print wget results to the terminal? I don't want to use curl or lynx
[16:26] <ernesto_> hi! i cant get alsa to start at start up
[16:26] <ernesto_> how do i reconfigure alsa?
[16:27] <flaccid> BluesKaj: samba is not simple. nothing is broken. you need to learn samba.
[16:28] <kkathman> flaccid:  how many bugs are logged in launchpad on samba?
[16:28] <flaccid> also you might wanna check the firewalls on the client to make sure the samba ports are not filtered
[16:28] <flaccid> kkathman: i have idea, why?
[16:29] <kkathman> flaccid:  being in software for almost 30 years - I tend to always know that software is always broken, just that people havent found the bugs yet :)
[16:29] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Pici, get life !
[16:30] <Pici> BluesKaj: This channel is for support, if you feel like arguing, do it somewher else.
[16:30] <minhaaj> i can't back up my home through rsync back up
[16:30] <minhaaj> says file operation not permitted to some files
[16:30] <wyginwys> hi to anybody
[16:30] <minhaaj> can someone help ?
[16:31] <wyginwys> I have a question about kde socks proxy configuration
[16:31] <wyginwys> I want to make all requests from kde through socks proxy
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Pici, who asked you to be a cop anyway ? lighten up
[16:31] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: now now ;)
[16:32] <kkathman> howdy Tm_T :)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[16:32] <wyginwys> any help,reference will be appreciated
[16:32] <Tm_T> hi kkathman and BluesKaj
[16:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: please calm down. he doesn't have to be asked to be a cop. he is one already
[16:33] <Jucato> (and so am I...)
[16:33] <Tm_T> I'm not!
[16:33]  * Tm_T hides
[16:33] <Jucato> :P
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Jucato, offtopic cops....bah humbug ! :)
[16:37] <Bonner> I was wondering, does anyone have experience with running Kubuntu on a HP 6720s laptop? or any laptop with a Broadcom 802.11 a/b/g WLAN wireless card?
[16:37] <bazhang> Bonner, the 43xx chipset?
[16:38] <Bonner> I'm not sure actually, how would I find that out?
[16:38] <bazhang> lspci in the terminal (konsole) Bonner
[16:38] <bazhang> Bonner, just the one line (dont paste the rest here)
[16:39] <Bonner> I'm not running Kubuntu at the moment, i'm running Vista. I'm looking to switch you see
[16:39] <bazhang> Bonner, yes it will work, though some fiddling will be necessary
[16:40] <Bonner> Ahh good, I tried Ubuntu with this and was never able to get the wireless card to work, s i'm looking around at other Distros
[16:40] <bazhang> Bonner, best to try out the live cd first
[16:40] <Bonner> I will, thanks :)
[16:40] <bazhang> :)
[16:40] <fonscho> Bonner: Normally, same problem with wireless cards
[16:40] <fonscho> under Kubuntu
[16:41] <fonscho> it's the same kernel etc.
[16:41] <bazhang> he's gone :)
[16:41] <fonscho> not good ;-)
[16:41] <martijn81> distro does not matter afaik for wifi
[16:42] <Jucato> martijn81: it does a bit... specially on the kernel, drivers, and patches
[16:42] <martijn81> ok :)
[16:42] <fonscho> i don't think KDE is better for his wifi ;-)
[16:43] <Jucato> now I'd have to say that DE doesn't matter for wifi :)
[16:43] <Jucato> (of course it helps a lot)
[16:43] <martijn81> well, i do not even know what GU
[16:43] <martijn81> well, i do not even know what GUI gnome uses for wifi connections
[16:43] <fonscho> in my opinion...he should test to work his card with ndiswrapper
[16:44] <Jucato> martijn81: Ubuntu uses network manager as well
[16:44] <fonscho> martijn81: well, IMHO networkmanager
[16:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff for broadcom
[16:44] <martijn81> i see
[16:44] <Jucato> !bc
[16:44] <fonscho> Jucato: sorry, you were faster ;-)
[16:44] <Jucato> er..
[16:44] <Jucato> !broadcom
[16:44] <martijn81> someoone lately helped to get my wifi under kde4 working
[16:44] <Jucato> bazhang: ^^^^ ?
[16:45] <fonscho> my notebook doesn't work with kernel under 2.6.25 :-( broadcom 43
[16:45] <martijn81> now i can use the rocking kde4-beta2
[16:45] <fonscho> so, now debian sid works on it ;-)
[16:45] <bazhang> Jucato, that can work too
[16:45] <fonscho> martijn81: kde4-beta2 is really cool
[16:45] <fonscho> and amarok-nightly is great
[16:46] <parkin__> whats new with amarok nightly?
[16:46] <martijn81> only dolphin does not seems to work as it should
[16:47] <fonscho> parkin__: amarok 2.0 alpha
[16:47] <fonscho> for kde4
[16:47] <parkin__> oh ok
[16:47] <fonscho> new is a new style.....using widges in the middle of the windows
[16:48] <fonscho> like for wikipedia etc.
[16:48] <Jucato> martijn81: how is it not working as it should?
[16:49] <martijn81> Jucato: any shortcut to start it up does nothing
[16:49] <Jucato> that's weird..
[16:49] <anomaly> hey
[16:49] <martijn81> it only works from inside bash
[16:49] <wyginwys> any ideas about using socks proxy with kubuntu from system settings
[16:49] <Jucato> martijn81: you can ask the people in #kubuntu-kde4 if they have any ideas about it
[16:50] <ernesto_> hi, i have a big problem this is what i get when i try to load the sound server "unable to connect to sound server" any ideas on how to fix this problem?
[16:51] <flaccid> kkathman: thats a bad generalisation for someone in software for that long
[16:52] <kkathman> its just true tho :)
[16:54] <flaccid> kkathman: generalisations are never true entirely, thats why they are a generalisation. and if you knew how samba works..
[16:54] <BluesKaj> ernesto_, open a terminal and type or copy & paste this : cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:54] <flaccid> BluesKaj: pastebin findsmb and smbtree please
[16:54] <flaccid> i've finished watching rambo so i can help now BluesKaj
[16:55] <Schorfi> now you know what to do? :)
[16:55] <ernesto_> i get 3 rsults
[16:55] <kkathman> flaccid:  which is exactly why your statement that "its not broken" was generalistic in nature also - why not help someone diagnose the issue than offer a blatent "its not broken"?   Enough of this - come to #k-o if you'd like to continue the discussion, sir.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> flaccid, I removed samba and deleted the text in the smb.conf file ...thinking of a different approach
[16:56] <ernesto_>  VIA8233 - VIA 8233,  ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI and MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
[16:57] <flaccid> kkathman: i am helping so back off. go read up on what a proof of concept is. its better to prove something then guess that something is broken.
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ok ernesto_ try this : lspci | grep audio
[16:58] <flaccid> BluesKaj: well that aint going to fix samba :) believe me if you knew how smb browsing works, you would know that its dependent on ALL samba clients on the network which includes windows machines etc.
[16:58] <ernesto_> BluessKaj Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) IA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30)
[16:59] <BluesKaj> uhmm yes flaccid , I'm aware of that
[16:59] <ernesto_> what bothers me is that it was working 15 minutes ago
[16:59] <kabil> hi all
[16:59] <flaccid> BluesKaj: let me know if you want to give it another shot.
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ok ernesto_ asoundconf set-default-card "Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI"
[17:01] <kabil> beni duyan varmı
[17:01] <ernesto_> BluessKaj ok, now what? :)
[17:02] <DarthFrog> Is it just me that can't see something hiding in plain site or does KDE 4.1 beta 2 Kopete not do IRC?
[17:02] <flaccid> DarthFrog: #kubuntu-kde4
[17:03] <DarthFrog> flaccid: Yeah, I'm asking there, too.  Not a very lively channel, though. :-)
[17:03] <donsdl> If you get Amarok nightly, do you wind up with two Amaroks? (If you have an older version.)
[17:04] <ubuntu__> hi alll
[17:04] <flaccid> yes i noticed, you Just asked there
[17:04] <chx> is it possible to time out windows? after a few days , there are an unbearable amount of skype / kopete windows lying all around :)
[17:04] <flaccid> donsdl: yep
[17:04] <donsdl> flaccid: Thanks.
[17:04] <flaccid> chx: not that i know of. but kopete should have option to not automatically open a popup
[17:05] <donsdl> Are both Amaroks in the K menu?
[17:05] <chx> flaccid: not popups, i chat with joe for ten minutes then the window stays there idle.
[17:05] <flaccid> donsdl: yep
[17:05] <flaccid> chx: thats what closing is for. i don't believe there is auto close window function
[17:05] <donsdl> flaccid: Thanks again.  I guess I need to re-subscribe.
[17:05] <flaccid> np
[17:07] <BluesKaj> flaccid, my problem may stem from a new XP install on wife's pc , a clue is that my router used to list the wife's windows pc in the "workgroup" Domain , now it's listed as "unknown " altho the IP address is correct.
[17:07] <BluesKaj> I have to reboot the router again ...wife is having email send probs ..brb
[17:09] <solifugus> What's an easy to use program for writing up a quick drawing (freehand, yet able to add text)?  This is for rough designs of physical objects..
[17:11] <nado> hi
[17:11] <nado> how do i remove all files with a certain extension out of a directory and all its subdirectories?
[17:12] <donsdl> What is the repository that begins with Medi?  I don't have it any more.
[17:12] <DarthFrog> medibuntu
[17:12] <Jucato> !medibuntu
[17:12] <Pici> find . -iname "*.ext" -execdir rm {} \;    run it without the execdir part first to make sure that you have the right files.
[17:12] <donsdl> Thanks guys.
[17:13] <Pici> nado: where . is the directory you want to delete stuff out of
[17:13] <ubuntu__> ikonia http://pastebin.com/d13d8ced4
[17:14] <nado> pici: thanks, that worked :)
[17:18] <rickest> solifugus: maybe 'dia'
[17:20] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm connected to an ubuntu box (krfb) that automatically logs in, but I need to make sure that krfb starts again after a reboot. how would I do that?
[17:20] <Jucato> solifugus: Inkscape, Dia, Kivio
[17:22] <Pepcok> hi, does anybody know how can I "connect" Audacious with Last fm? I've downloaded the newest pludgins for Audacious but it didn't help me
[17:27] <flaccid> BluesKaj: would be good to look at this soon as i have to get some sleep soon
[17:29] <Doryian> how to install a .deb package in kubuntu?
[17:29] <llutz> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[17:29] <Doryian> ooooo thanks
[17:31] <Doryian> and after i installed it i dont have a shortcut in my menu
[17:31] <engineer> make one
[17:31] <Doryian> :))
[17:32] <Doryian> how?
[17:32] <engineer> right click the submenu where you want it to go
[17:32] <Jucato> Depends on what the package is, what it does, and how it was packaged (if it was packaged correctly, it should appear in your menu)
[17:32] <flaccid> there will only be a shortcut if the package has one in it. sometimes you need to restart kicker to refresh the kmenu
[17:32] <engineer> or just launch jmenuedit
[17:33] <Jucato> engineer: I'm sure you meant 'k' :)
[17:33] <engineer> ye k
[17:33] <engineer> kmenuedit
[17:33] <jpds> Jucato: The keys are right next to each other.
[17:33] <Jucato> undeed
[17:33] <engineer> he's picky
[17:33] <Jucato> er.. indeed :)
[17:33] <flaccid> no, jindeed :p
[17:33] <Pepcok> so does anybody know how to connect audacious and lastfm?
[17:34] <Jucato> jpds, engineer: when you're giving out commands, you have to be extra picky :)
[17:34] <Doryian> thanks for the help guys
[17:34] <flaccid> Pepcok: if someone did know they would of responded
[17:34] <flaccid> Pepcok: how do you know its possible?
[17:34] <jpds> sudo -u jucato ./get_me_a_sandwich
[17:35] <Pepcok> because on one website some guy helped onother and there was a picture
[17:35] <Jucato> bash: get_me_a_sandwich: command not found
[17:35] <engineer> Pepcok either noone knows or noone cares
[17:35] <Pepcok> ok  sorry
[17:35] <Jucato> "no one cares" is a bit too much of a presumption (though it can happen)
[17:35] <flaccid> Pepcok: have you got a link?
[17:36] <engineer> hey i was kidding
[17:36] <Pepcok> yes but it's in Polish
[17:36] <Pepcok> http://forum.dobreprogramy.pl/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=225273
[17:37] <Pepcok> look at the last link
[17:38] <flaccid> ok Pepcok i'll look
[17:38] <Doryian> Something went wrong with FrostWire.
[17:38] <Doryian> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[17:38] <Doryian> (FrostWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)
[17:38] <Doryian> The version of Java in your PATH is:
[17:38] <Doryian> java version "1.6.0"
[17:38] <Doryian> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
[17:38] <Doryian> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode)
[17:39] <Doryian> now i must install 1.4 java if i want it to work
[17:39] <Doryian> cool
[17:39] <Doryian> and i have 1.6
[17:40] <el-gokulo> Java 1.4+ means java 1.4 and greater. so also 1.6
[17:40] <flaccid> !enter | Doryian
[17:40] <Doryian> aaa
[17:40] <flaccid> Pepcok: it tells you how here: http://duyfkenstudios.com.au/last.fm/
[17:40] <Doryian> ok man i hear ya
[17:40] <Doryian> :)
[17:40] <Pepcok> thanks very much flaccid
[17:40] <flaccid> np
[17:40] <gute> elgokulo
[17:40] <flaccid> Pepcok: google does wonders
[17:41] <Doryian> and what's wrong with frostwire on my machine?
[17:41] <Doryian> if it's not java, then ?
[17:41] <flaccid> Doryian: you havnt told us the actualy problem
[17:42] <Jucato> flaccid: he did
[17:42] <Jucato> scroll up a bit. I don't wanna multiline paste and get scolded :P
[17:42] <el-gokulo> did you tried the latest version from http://www.frostwire.com/?id=downloads
[17:42] <flaccid> i can read Jucato, did you know that?
[17:42] <gute> el-gokulo
[17:42] <flaccid> Jucato: is it frostwire that says 'Something went wrong with FrostWire" ?
[17:43] <gute> el-gokulo sos español ?
[17:43] <Doryian> yes 4give me , the problem is : i open the terminal(because i don't have a shortcut) and type frostwire and enter and the message ...
[17:43] <el-gokulo> nopes. german :)
[17:43] <gute> pero hablas no ?
[17:43] <el-gokulo> nu mui :)
[17:43] <el-gokulo> ;)
[17:43] <el-gokulo> no
[17:43] <Jucato> flaccid: maybe, or maybe not. but the 4 lines that follow are definitely from frostwire
[17:43] <Doryian> yes
[17:44] <Jucato> anyway, all yours. bed time
[17:44] <Doryian> Loading FrostWire:
[17:44] <Doryian> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/motif21/libmawt.so
[17:44] <Doryian> so i reinstall java?
[17:45] <flaccid> Jucato: yeah well i didn't know that, which is why describing behaviour initially is important.
[17:45] <el-gokulo> Doryian, try sun java instead of openjava
[17:46] <el-gokulo> but version 1.6 should be ok
[17:46] <flaccid> Doryian: yeah sun java is probably what you need/want for frostwire. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire also
[17:47] <Doryian> thanks
[17:47] <flaccid> Doryian: the above page has your problem and solution which is sun java
[17:48] <Doryian> ok i will find it in adept
[17:48] <slow-motion> hi
[17:48] <Doryian> hi
[17:50] <Doryian> i didnt have java installed...
[17:50] <Doryian> just a base
[17:51] <flaccid> ah well too late
[17:51] <Pepcok> which movie player do you think is the best for ubuntu 8.19?
[17:53] <flaccid> whats 8.19 ?
[17:53] <Pepcok> updated hardy heron
[17:53] <Pepcok> updated 8
[17:54] <flaccid> you probably mean Ubuntu 8.04.1. there is no best i guess but kaffeine is good
[17:55] <Pepcok> in grub when I start my system I can see Ubuntu 8.19
[17:55] <flaccid> ok then, not sure how that got there..
[17:56] <gute> doryian...
[17:57] <Lupus-SLE> Hey peoples - I have a .mpg file I want to put onto a video DVD... how do I do that?
[17:58] <gute> lupus-sle
[17:58] <gute> hablas español ?
[17:58] <Tm_T> !es | gute
[17:59] <Tm_T> hablas no espanol
[18:01] <Lupus-SLE> Tm_T: Sense... you make none.
[18:02] <gute> lupus-sle
[18:03] <gute> lupus-sle You need a program: devede
[18:06] <gute> Lupus-SLE ¬¬
[18:11] <Lupus-SLE> gute: Seems to be working
[18:11] <Lupus-SLE> Cheers
[18:12] <gute> thanks
[18:12] <BluesKaj> flaccid, strange when uninstalling samba-common, wine goes too
[18:13] <flaccid> BluesKaj: samba-common is the client etc. not the server thats why. you don't uninstall that
[18:13] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  hmm that is rather odd.  Perhaps a common library between the two?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> well, I was trying to generate a new smb.conf file
[18:14] <kkathman> flaccid:  what is the smbclient then? Just curious?
[18:15] <flaccid> kkathman: smbclient ?
[18:15] <flaccid> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get purge samba && sudo apt-get install samba
[18:16] <kkathman> flaccid:  samba-common has files used by both the client and server I believe,  smbclient is the client aspect IIRC.
[18:16] <flaccid> kkathman: yes that is why it is called samba-common
[18:17] <BluesKaj> wow, lots of failed to fetch messages
[18:17] <kkathman> flaccid:  there is also smbfs - it used to be mandatory back in the early days of *buntu, but not sure thats the case anymore unless you want to mount a samba volume?
[18:20] <flaccid> kkathman: yeah. cifs is better and used now, but smbfs can be used if you want
[18:20] <BluesKaj> ok flaccid , I have a new smb.conf
[18:20] <kkathman> flaccid:  I always get confused on what shows up in smbtree also. It should show all workgroups and shares but there is something that triggers that
[18:21] <flaccid> depends on the lan's config of each smb server
[18:22] <flaccid> [01:54] <flaccid> BluesKaj: pastebin findsmb and smbtree please
[18:26] <BluesKaj> http://www.pastebin.ca/1064806
[18:27] <lnx> how i can remove the pop icon near the cursor when i start some application ?
[18:28] <flaccid> lnx: launch behaviour in system settings i think
[18:29] <BluesKaj> flaccid, http://www.pastebin.ca/1064806
[18:30] <flaccid> yeah i got it first time BluesKaj
[18:30] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:30] <flaccid> which computer is den?
[18:30] <mil_> hi how do you transfer your home directory to another partition?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> the linuxbox
[18:31] <DarthFrog> mil_: Carefully.
[18:31] <flaccid> BluesKaj: what else do you have the network that aint showing? which OS are they and which workgroup and subnet?
[18:31] <Jabop> DarthFrog: lol.
[18:31] <Jabop> Darth Chauncey?
[18:31] <mil_> really dart? why?
[18:31] <Jabop> mil_: so you don't mess anything up.
[18:31] <DarthFrog> mil_:  Cuz if you  screw it up, your data is toast.
[18:32] <mil_> yeah I can see that.  hmmm might not want to take the risk then
[18:32] <DarthFrog> mil_:  First make the new home directory,  call it home_new.
[18:32] <mil_> thanks for the warning
[18:32] <DarthFrog> Then "rsync -avv --progress /home/mil_/ /home_new/
[18:33] <Jabop> why two v options DarthFrog
[18:33] <DarthFrog> mv /home/mil_ /home/mil_.saved
[18:33] <DarthFrog> Jabop: habit
[18:33] <DarthFrog> mv /home_new /home/mil_
[18:33] <DarthFrog> if it's on a new partition, you'll have to also update /etc/fstab.
[18:34] <DarthFrog> Once you're sure things are working, you can delete /home/mil_saved.
[18:34] <BluesKaj> flaccid, dunno what the subnet is on the windows pc , the hostname is livingroom and computer name is margaret
[18:35] <mil_> wow that  looks tricky! Thanks so much Darth!
[18:35] <Jabop> mil_ it's a pretty simple concept, don't overanalyze it :P
[18:37] <mil_> thanks both of you jabop and Darth
[18:38] <flaccid> BluesKaj: is the computer name pingable/resolvable?
[18:40] <DarthFrog> mil_:  Actuall, I made a mistake.  Instead of /home_new, use /home/new. :-)
[18:42] <mil_> Got you Darth am noting it down.  Thanks
[18:43] <BluesKaj> err hostname flaccid wife's pc : Workgroup = WORKGROUP, Full Computer Name = maragaret, PC Description = Livingroom. and no the pc isn't pingable cuz i can't see it in smb:/
[18:44] <BluesKaj> oops = margaret , gawd she hates that :)
[18:45] <flaccid> BluesKaj: whether you can see it in smb:/ or not is irrelevant. can you ping it ? regardless you need to try an smbclient -NL //margaret and smbclient -NL //ipaddressOfMargaret
[18:45] <flaccid> BluesKaj: you should make sure windows is configured to repond to icmp echo
[18:47] <BluesKaj> flaccid, smbclient -NL //margaret, Connection to margaret failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[18:47] <flaccid> now do it with the IP
[18:49] <BluesKaj> flaccid, smbclient -NL //192.168.#.# Error connecting to 192.168.#.# (Connection refused), Connection to 192.168.#.#failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
[18:49] <flaccid> hehe, just like i said initially. check firewalls on the clients...
[18:50] <BluesKaj> of course that's not the IP that I used
[18:50] <flaccid> yeah but the port seems closed. you can verify this with a port scan
[18:50] <BluesKaj> WXP FW is not being used, the router has one
[18:51] <flaccid> your problem is with the windows machine and its smb server or the firewall
[18:51] <flaccid> BluesKaj: well the box is refusing smb connections atm
[18:51] <BluesKaj> could be the NOD32 at work then
[18:51] <flaccid> nod32?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> anti virus,I'll disable it for a few moments
[18:52] <flaccid> ok
[18:56] <flaccid> BluesKaj: and as a sidenote, you don't need samba server installed to browse smb :)
[18:56] <BluesKaj> flaccid, same message with antivirus and FW disabled
[18:57] <BluesKaj> flaccid,kkath and the another thing is, my router doesn't see the windows pc in the WORKGROUP Domain
[18:58] <flaccid> BluesKaj: well the problem is with this windows machine. you might also like to check if sharing is enabled on it. in windows its disabled by default
[18:58] <flaccid> BluesKaj: i wouldn't expect it to because of the problem!
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Sharing is turned on
[18:58] <njal> heei
[18:59] <flaccid> maybe you got infected, who knows. anyway off to ##windows it is for you :p
[18:59] <njal> hello  everyone
[18:59] <flaccid> !hi
[18:59] <njal> kubuntu is  ze nice
[18:59] <flaccid> BluesKaj: run an nmap -v -A //ipaddressofMargaret and see which ports are open and closed
[19:02] <BluesKaj> Invalid character in  host specification.  Note in particular that square brackets [] are no longer allowed.  They were redundant and can simply be removed.
[19:03] <flaccid> BluesKaj: oops i accidently put in the // ....
[19:03] <flaccid> nmap -v -A <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:04] <Agent_bob> heh i was just testing that command to see if the // worked  :)
[19:05] <flaccid> hehe
[19:05] <flaccid> kkathman: see samba is not broken at all :)
[19:07] <BluesKaj> flaccid, seems to see the pc , post output on pastebin ? , but it doesn't show any open ports , just the tcp 135 and "1713 closed ports"
[19:08] <tim_> hey does anyone know anything about sound cards? I have a Sound Blaster Live 5.1, ideally I'd like to make it output on both the front and reer jacks, so I can plug a microphone into it...
[19:09] <flaccid> yeah i'd like to see please. that confirms your problem but, only RPC open which is actually one that should be closed by a firewall.
[19:09] <flaccid> tim_: did you try playing with kmix ?
[19:10] <tim_> yes, I have turned up all the 'channels', but hear nothing. idealy, I'd like normal sterio to both jacks...
[19:10] <tim_> *hear nothing on rear, front is fine
[19:10] <flaccid> im not sure what you have to do to fade it to the rear as well sorry
[19:11] <Agent_bob> alsamixer mith have options
[19:11] <tim_> I'll take a look
[19:13] <BluesKaj> flaccid, http://www.pastebin.ca/1064847
[19:14] <flaccid> BluesKaj: yeah i'd be suspicious on that computer for sure, particularly because it didn't even respond to rpc correctly. i'd be doing a process analysis with security task manager or equivalent. at least you know the problem and its mr gates :o
[19:15] <BluesKaj> interesting , the scan doesn't see the TiVo either
[19:15] <Agent_bob> iptables -L   ?
[19:16] <flaccid> tivo listens on a port?
[19:16] <flaccid> Agent_bob: windows box
[19:16] <BluesKaj> yup, it's on my network
[19:17] <flaccid> the -A scan may not include the tivo ports. BluesKaj install nmapfe for the frontend and use that to do further scanning
[19:17] <BluesKaj> ahh, now it does
[19:17] <flaccid> now it does?
[19:17] <Pici> nmapfe doesnt have any options that nmap doesnt have.
[19:17] <Agent_bob> flaccid yeah i just looked at the nmap out   should have looked first.    but still the same idea presists  check the firewall
[19:17] <BluesKaj> yup it sees the 2 tivo ports
[19:18] <flaccid> BluesKaj: how, what did you change/do?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> just waited , the TiVo was prolly busy ...I DL stuff off the net with it
[19:20] <flaccid> fair enough. anyway you know what to do now, good luck.
[19:20] <BluesKaj> hmm flaccid apt installed zenmap instead of nmapfe
[19:20] <flaccid> BluesKaj: yep thats right
[19:31] <flaccid> ok im crashin cyas
[19:31] <Jabop> Cya flaccid
[19:31] <BluesKaj> flaccid, you said I know what to do , but I don't :P
[19:32] <flaccid> BluesKaj: ##windows and process analysis (as i mentioned)
[19:34] <BluesKaj> ok flaccid , appreciate the help ..I'll try the ##windows guys :)
[19:39] <jorgia> hello...may i ask for some help as a new Kubuntu user please?
[19:40] <dwidmann> !ask
[19:40] <jajabinker> jorgia go ahead
[19:41] <jorgia> thank you jajabinker
[19:42] <jorgia> i have installed 8.04 as a way to (hopefully) get away from Windows entirely...but as this is entirely new to me, there are a number of issues i need to resolve
[19:43] <jorgia> the first one i think being that i cannot access the NTFS external hard drive  (USB) that i was using as backup
[19:43] <dwidmann> !ntfs
[19:44] <jajabinker> you have to mount that manually
[19:44] <jorgia> Kubuntu sees it, but when trying to access it, it says that it was not shut down properly from windows (i removed it instead of uninstalling it)
[19:45] <jorgia> i think there's some kind of read/write protection in place
[19:45] <dwidmann> You can fix that with ntfsfix (part of the ntfsprogs package)
[19:45] <dwidmann> Or so I've heard
[19:46] <jajabinker> do you know the name of the hard drive?
[19:46] <jajabinker> jorgia
[19:46] <nzk> What a weird problem. I rebooted and it seems that something happened with my home folder or something. Firefox's extensions aren't working even though they show up, my irssi config didn't run (luckily I had a backup but that doesn't work either)
[19:47] <jorgia> just a moment jajabinker
[19:48] <jorgia> it's a Western Digital MyBook
[19:49] <jajabinker> jorgia okay lol do you know the name as kubuntu sees it eg./dev/sda1
[19:50] <jorgia> Dolphin calls it an "sdc1
[19:50] <jorgia> sdc1
[19:51] <jajabinker> did you try mounting it through commandline?
[19:51] <jorgia> haven't tried anything yet...was just now trying to copy the error message to post here but it doesn't copy
[19:52] <jorgia> says "mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use" becuase of an "unclean shutdown"
[19:53] <jajabinker> open your konsole and try "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[19:53] <dwidmann> "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs" "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1"
[19:53] <Agent_bob> nzk  is it mounted ro ?    and own your home
[19:55] <jorgia> hmmm...command window closed when i ran that
[19:56] <jajabinker> hmmmmmm
[19:56] <jajabinker> try what dwidmann is telling
[19:57] <jorgia> same thing happened with dwidmann's suggestion
[19:58] <jorgia> dolphin suggested (as choice 2) to type:
[19:59] <jorgia> "mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sdc1 /media/External -o force"
[19:59] <jorgia> sound okay?
[19:59] <jajabinker> ya try it
[20:00] <jajabinker> jorgia do you have partition editor or qtpqrted?
[20:01] <jorgia> i don't know really...i used a "how to" guide to get started and installed the packages that were suggested to "emulate" Windows (sorry) so i could migrate more quickly
[20:01] <semistud2354> quick question...im trying to connect to my router via wpa...but it wont go past 28%
[20:02] <nzk> Agent_bob: I have no idea. I didn't change anything when I rebooted. I'll try another reboot to see if it'll work, and I'll update everything before that.
[20:02] <semistud2354> ive checked the pass phrase on my g/f's windows machine and it works fine
[20:02] <semistud2354> anyone had similer problems
[20:03] <jajabinker> okay chekcin kmenu>system
[20:03] <beatriz> hola
[20:03] <semistud2354> me?
[20:04] <beatriz> algien ke me ayude x faaa
[20:04] <semistud2354> anyone else had problems connecting hardy to there router via wpa?
[20:05] <beatriz> x faaaaa un español ke me ayude
[20:06] <goshawk> !es
[20:06] <goshawk> beatriz: there :)
[20:06] <beatriz> ok
[20:07] <beatriz> hola
[20:07] <beatriz> ahi alguien
[20:07] <nzk> Hmm
[20:07] <Agent_bob> nzk    you would be well advised to leave the "reboot will fix anything" M$ mentality with M$       to see if it's mounted readonly.  open a terminal and issue the command "mount"   to own your home.  >>> sudo chown -R $USER:`groups | tr ' ' ':' | cut -d':' -f4` $HOME  <<<
[20:08] <nzk> I can't do an upgrade because it says that the "user's Xauthorization file was unable to be copied"
[20:08] <jorgia> jajabinker i don't think i have either partition editor or qtpqrted
[20:08] <nzk> Agent_bob: It's a general computing mentality
[20:08] <Schorfi> beatriz: sí, pero:
[20:08] <Schorfi> !es
[20:09] <nzk> Agent_bob: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[20:09] <Pici> Agent_bob: Do you mind joining us in -ops regarding your factoid submissions?
[20:10] <jajabinker> jorgia can you download either because it has a nice view of all your drives, if it doesnt help here it will in the future
[20:11] <jorgia> preference to either? remembering that i'm newbie please?
[20:12] <jajabinker> partitioin editor
[20:15] <nzk> Agent_bob: Any ideas?
[20:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> hey there, i have a problem i ahve a mounted ntsf partition, the icon that shortcuts to the file where i download stuff when i'm on windows is there
[20:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> but there are some new files that aren't showing up
[20:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> what's the issue?
[20:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check if the partition's mounted properly or whatever?
[20:23] <dwidmann> CostaRicanQuaker: see if it's listed in /etc/mtab
[20:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> type /etc/mtab into the terminal?
[20:28] <Gat0rvean> does Kubuntu come with compiz?
[20:35] <kkathman> whats the approved way of changing the workgroup in kubuntu?
[20:35] <jorgia> jajabinker is this one of them you suggested? http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[20:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, how do i a)check for which /dev/hda*  is the ntsf partition on, b) how do i mount it c)mount it meaning that everytime i reboot it will be there and i will be able to open it regardless of which desktop environment i log in, gnome, kde, or xubuntu
[20:41] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker fdisk -l     and edit fstab
[20:45] <ybit> how can you tell what's using the audio driver?
[20:45] <sparr> can anyone recommend free photo management software that can organize multiple versions (resize, crop, edit, etc) of the same photo in some way?
[20:45]  * Agent_bob still wonders why linux by default messes up his hardware clock
[20:46] <ybit> sparr: digikam?
[20:46] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  often is how the bios is set, vs the timezone, vs utc/vs localtime ;)
[20:46] <Agent_bob> ybit lsmod
[20:46] <Yidskki> oh wow, i really need some help here
[20:46] <Yidskki> i just fucked up mah kubuntu screen
[20:46] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  i had windows once adjust my clock for DST  every time i rebooted. :)  ended up like 12 hrs off in 1 day.
[20:46] <Yidskki> its stuck at 800x600
[20:47] <Yidskki> halp
[20:47] <el-gokulo> Agent_bob, bit annoying with windows on same pc
[20:47] <el-gokulo> ntp helps :)
[20:47] <Yidskki> c'mon, how do i change my screen size back?
[20:48] <Agent_bob> dr_willis  no.  i mean if linux runs the hardware clock doesn't keep acurate time.  if nothing runs (computer off) or if M$ runs (dos or windows) the clock keeps accurate time.
[20:48] <ybit> Agent_bob:  that confuses me :P
[20:48] <Agent_bob> el-gokulo doesn't help
[20:49] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  so after an hr or 2 of running.. you mean to say the clock will be 1 hr 45 min..  ahead or so...?
[20:49] <ybit> http://dpaste.com/61202/
[20:49] <Agent_bob> ybit command    lsmod will display inserted modules as well as what is using them.
[20:49] <liveoutloud2day> Yidskki: System Settings | Monitor & Display should do it unless you hosed the xorg settings completely.  If so someone else will have to help you...
[20:49] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  or more likely a few min, off for every hour of uptime?
[20:49] <Agent_bob> dr_willis   exagerated but yes.
[20:50] <Agent_bob> <-- lagging right now.
[20:50] <Yidskki> yeah, i cant change the settings from there
[20:50] <sparr> ybit: unfortunately no  :(
[20:50] <Yidskki> the bar wont move
[20:50] <Yidskki> stuck at 800x600
[20:50] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  my laptop had a similer issue.. it got fixed by some bios update.  My clock would run at like 3x normal speed.. every sec.. 3 sec would tick by..  set screen saver to go off in 10 min.. it would go off in 3
[20:50] <Yidskki> will sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?
[20:50] <Agent_bob> few seconds/hour dr_willis
[20:50] <ybit> Agent_bob: i pasted the contents of the command, but i'm still kind of loss, not able to pinpoint what's using what (causing me to have no audio)
[20:51] <Dr_willis> a few secs.. Hmm.. thats interesting. Not severe. Ya could set ntp to  update the clock every hr I guess..
[20:52] <Agent_bob> dr_willis it's hard to believe that it's a bios issue on several boxen and that it only affects linux  ...
[20:52] <Agent_bob> more like a linux bug
[20:52] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  kernel timing can be tricky. I wonder if the RT kernels would have similer effect.
[20:52] <Dr_willis> Time to test out all the kernels! :)
[20:52] <Agent_bob> !sound | ybit check the troubleshooting page here
[20:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: how do i a)check for which /dev/hda*  is the ntsf partition on, b) how do i mount it c)mount it meaning that everytime i reboot it will be there and i will be able to open it regardless of which desktop environment i log in, gnome, kde, or xubuntu
[20:53] <Agent_bob> dr_willis but why does linux mess with rtc ?
[20:54] <Agent_bob> there is no reason for it to affect rtc at all
[20:54] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker a)fdisk -l     b)edit /etc/fstab
[20:54] <ybit> thanks Agent_bob, hopefully i can figure it out. i don't want to restart my system
[20:54] <leomar> hola
[20:54] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker answer has not changed sense you last asked.
[20:54] <leomar> thhhhht
[20:54] <leomar> ddddddddddddddddddddd
[20:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: nothing happened after i entered fdisk -l
[20:55] <leomar> holaaaa
[20:55] <Agent_bob> ybit restart should NOT be needed.
[20:55] <leomar> hola deci
[20:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: what do i do now?
[20:56] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker run it as root then
[20:56] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker sudo fdisk -l
[20:56] <Agent_bob> only reason that root might be needed is if you are not in the disks group
[20:57] <leomar> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25771/
[20:57] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker i'm lagging to badly to be hand holding right now.   when i'm caught up i'll get back to you.
[20:58] <Agent_bob> !es | leomar
[20:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> lagging?
[20:59] <Agent_bob> !lag
[21:00] <bogo> hello everyone :)
[21:02] <ybit> hmm... so the problem has been that the sound is only coming through my earphones
[21:02] <ybit> i can't seem to get it to come through the speakers (laptop)
[21:02] <ybit> i could restart and i know it would work
[21:02] <ybit> but i'm not wanting to do that since i have a temp java app running that needs to run until finished
[21:03] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker echo "/dev/hda1 /media/wINDARz ntfs dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab ;sudo mkdir -p wINDARz ;sudo mount -a # drop that line in a konsole.
[21:03] <ybit> got it
[21:03] <ybit> it was a combination of muting while my headset was plugged in and then unmuting when i unplug them
[21:04] <ybit> that sounds like a bug to me
[21:04] <ybit> thanks for the link Agent_bob, it has good info
[21:04] <Agent_bob> ybit sounds more like a hardware switch in the box to me
[21:05] <ybit> perhaps so
[21:05] <ybit> it's never had that problem before though
[21:06]  * Agent_bob was just remembering the 4mm sterio plugs that have the switch built on...
[21:09] <Agent_bob> i guess CostaRicanQuaker couldn't wait whill i had a full pipe...
[21:09] <Agent_bob> oh well
[21:13] <Agent_bob> i have all of xubuntu-desktop installed execpt for mozilla-thunderbird    and i have no desire to dl 10m package that i will never even look at...
[21:15] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d251c61
[21:17] <Agent_bob> looks like a repos issue doesn't it ?
[21:23] <kaminix> More of a Firefox question perhaps, but does anyone here know where the greasemonkey configuration files lie?
[21:32] <ZZZZ> Hi all. I have some problem with squidGuard. Could anybody help me with it here?
[21:33] <FoxIII> Hi all. Having trouble with my wireless network. I've managed to set everything up, it sees the network fine, but when I try and connect using the given password, it just hangs. Anyone able to help?
[21:42] <pete-r> hi people! i've just installed kubuntu and i want to try skype
[21:42] <pete-r> i've downloaded the .deb package but how do i install it?
[21:42] <FoxIII> pete-r, To install .deb files, in CLI type: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[21:43] <rickest> pete-r: you shouldn't do it that.  Run 'Adept Manager' and install the skype that's specifically built for your distro & version
[21:43] <pete-r> and how do i do the adept manager thing?
[21:43] <FoxIII> hmm. That's not being in kubuntu that is :( Thanks rickest :)
[21:44] <Dr_willis> i was thinking skype was on the medibuntu repos.
[21:44] <FoxIII> pete-r, system, adept manager
[21:44] <a_> question: when i try to boot from the latest livecd, fairly late in the booting stage i get a kubuntu logo, an empty blue bar below it, and nothing else after that. why?
[21:44] <rickest> pete-r: I don't know the name in the menus, but... ah thanks FoxIII
[21:45] <FoxIII> a_, Did you wait a while? It can take a little time for it to get going. Other than that, have you checked the chksum to see if it burned okay?
[21:46] <a_> i checked the chkksum. no, i didn't wait :p how long should i wait, do you think? it seemed like a while, but i get paranoid when something doesn't seem to be working, so it may have been a short while
[21:46] <pete-r> richest: shouldn't I add some repos or somthing?
[21:47] <FoxIII> hmm. Well I know when I installed a few days ago (yes I messed my system up! :P ) I think it took like 30 secs.
[21:47] <FoxIII> pete-r, Have you enabled the multiverse repositories?
[21:47] <a_> thanks, FoxIII. i'll try to wait
[21:48] <pete-r> how do i do that?
[21:48] <FoxIII> In CLI, type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:49] <FoxIII> Then use the arrow keys to scroll down and you will see two lines with 'multiverse' in them and a # in front of them. Remove these # and then press CTRL+X, press Y and press enter.
[21:51] <rickest> (it can also be done from Adept->Manage Repositories if you'd prefer not to have to use the cmdline and editor)
[21:51] <pete-r> i have checked the line with multiverse
[21:51] <pete-r> still i can't get skype
[21:52] <FoxIII> Have you updated pete-r ? You need to do that for kubuntu to get the new packages available.
[21:52] <FoxIII> in CLI: sudo apt-get update
[21:52] <Githzerai> pete-r: skype is is not in oficial ubuntu repo ;)
[21:52] <pete-r> and how do i find it's repo?
[21:52] <pete-r> i didn't get anything on www.skype.com
[21:53] <Githzerai> pete-r: google for medibuntu ;)
[21:53] <FoxIII> I can't see any major problems on pete-r using the deb he has. Am I wrong here?
[21:54] <Githzerai> pete-r: how exactly did u try to install that deb ?
[21:54] <pete-r> wel i didn't
[21:54] <pete-r> i don't know how
[21:54] <FoxIII> pete-r, you can use: sudo dpkg -i <nameofpackage>
[21:54] <Githzerai> pete-r: double slick on it or open with gdebi
[21:54] <Githzerai> *click
[21:55] <Githzerai> pete-r: gdebi i better way, as it resolves deps ;)
[21:55] <Githzerai> *is
[21:55] <pete-r> ?
[21:55]  * FoxIII has learned something new :)
[21:55] <micko_> What's up folks?
[21:56] <Githzerai> pete-r: double click on .deb package
[21:56] <FoxIII> micko_, not my wireless network, that's for sure ;)
[21:57] <micko_> Just wondering if there is any "Adobe Photoshop" typr software for Ubuntu???
[21:57] <FoxIII> micko_, Tried gimp?
[21:57] <FoxIII> !gimp | micko_
[21:57] <micko_> Nope, is it any good?
[21:57] <FoxIII> ^^ :)
[21:57] <micko_> Fair play, cheers
[21:57] <FoxIII> Very good actually.
[21:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> help
[21:58] <patrick> Hey everyone, new to Kubuntu. I am trying to paste some files on my hard drive(not personal folders) and it keeps saying access denied any suggestions?
[21:58] <tester_> I am trying to figure out what package installs apr_dbd_mysql.so ... Anyone know?
[21:58] <micko_> Where are you trying to paste the files?
[21:59] <micko_> Patrick?
[21:59] <patrick> sda1/usr/share/apps/kicker/tiles   it's for a theme
[21:59] <FoxIII> patrick, that's root so you will need to use sudo to copy them.
[21:59] <FoxIII> !sudo patrick
[21:59] <FoxIII> !sudo | patrick
[22:00] <Githzerai> tester_: go  to packages.ubuntu.com and search packages by content ;)
[22:00] <patrick> ahh kk thanks for help
[22:00] <FoxIII> Any probs, just shout :)
[22:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> apparently my upgrade to hardy wasnt well performed i get some error when i choose 8.04 ubuntu kernel on grub that says busybox (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) built in shell (ash)enter help for a list of built in commands, anyway, not to be family unfriendly, but to be supportive of the friendliness in ubuntu-s community that is to say that you dont have to study two months in advance before actually installing the thing, the guys at #ubuntu are a
[22:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> bunch of...you know, so my problem is, i am not seeing the new files in the my stuff folder which is  on my ntsf partition, why is this? it's still there and it still opens the files so it must mean that the partition is stillmounted however i dont see the new files
[22:01] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, What version have you upgraded from?
[22:02] <tester_> Githzerai, what if its not listed?  do i have to recompile stuff?
[22:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> i upgraded(although it apparently didn-t work) to hardy from dapper
[22:02] <a_> help! i'm trying to boot the latest amd64 kde4 cd, and it freezes with kubuntu logo and an empty bar below it. i'd waited 6 minutes. checksums are ok.
[22:02] <FoxIII> a_, You definitely have a 64bit machine?
[22:03] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, Have you done the normal apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade to see if it will resolve your issues?
[22:03] <a_> FoxIII: i think so. it's an athlon 64 x2
[22:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope? i wanted to upgrade from the terminal but someone told me to do it from the software manager or whatever you call it so i did that so it did everythign it said it had to do but it didn-t work apparently
[22:04] <FoxIII> Definitely 64bit then. Just checking. You'll be surprised... Anyhoo. hmm. Not sure then.
[22:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i do? open terminal and type in those commands you just mentioned?
[22:04] <a_> FoxIII: with the marketing these days, i wouldn't be surprised if it's called 64 but not actually 64 bit
[22:04] <zanberdo> I'm runnig kubuntu gutsy on my laptop and I'm pretty lean on memory. I'm looking at top and see several entries for kio_http - 16 in total.  Question: what is kio_http for and why would I have so many processes sitting idle?
[22:04] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, yes: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:05] <Dr_willis> CostaRicanQuaker,  if this is a new install, you may be much better off getting a  Newer version/release cd then messing with upgrading all the way up.
[22:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> this will fix my system?
[22:05] <Githzerai> tester_: Why do you need it? It just may be named differently
[22:05] <ahmos> hi , i get this message after while kubuntu 8.04 kde4 starts up:
[22:05] <ahmos> No command arguments supplied!
[22:05] <ahmos> Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>
[22:05] <ahmos> KdeSudo will now exit...
[22:05] <FoxIII> I would have to agree with Dr_willis. But you can give those commands a try to see how you get on.
[22:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> FoxIII: I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25790/
[22:06] <FoxIII> a_, 64 bit kubuntu is definitely 64 bit. Unless you got it off an obscure site.
[22:06] <patrick> FOxxlll: I read the page but still pretty confused mind walking me thru sudo commands?
[22:06] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, Looks okay. Try the other command.
[22:07] <FoxIII> patrick, sure. In CLI type: gksudo dolphin
[22:08] <ahmos> how i can fix my problem plz!
[22:08] <FoxIII> patrick, You will be asked for your root password, enter this and then you'll be using a 'root' file manager. You can then copy all the files required.
[22:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> FoxIII: I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792/
[22:08] <patrick> says gksudo is currently not installed
[22:08] <FoxIII> patrick, okaly. Well it's a good one to have, so type: sudo apt-get install gksudo (I think)
[22:08] <a_> FoxIII:  yeah, i don't doubt it. i meant AMD was being dodgy. but yeah, that's not it, of course
[22:08] <patrick> installing it really quick
[22:09] <patrick> gksu not gksudo :) close enough
[22:09] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[22:09] <jussi01> FoxIII: patrick no!!!
[22:09] <jussi01> kdesudo, for kde  apps
[22:09] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, Okay. And what happens when you type: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:10] <FoxIII> jussi01, Thanks for jumping in there!
[22:10] <patrick> lol well I installed it I suppose it won't hurt anything?
[22:10] <jussi01> patrick: if you dont use it for kde apps its fine
[22:10]  * jussi01 has it installed :)
[22:11] <patrick> k thanks
[22:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> FoxIII: I got this now http://paste.ubuntu.com/25794/
[22:11] <lucianocatt> alguien speak español
[22:11] <lucianocatt> ???
[22:11] <jose> #kubuntu-es
[22:12] <ahmos> can any body help me now
[22:12] <ahmos> plz!
[22:12] <patrick> I want to give myself root so I can paste into sda1/usr/share/apps...etc. How would I go about doing that now? sudo?
[22:12] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, hmm There's nothing there that's going to help with your problems. As was mentioned before, it probably would be best to download the latest version and install from fresh.
[22:12] <jussi01> patrick: kdesuod dolphin
[22:12] <jussi01> patrick: kdesudo dolphin
[22:12] <jussi01> even...
[22:13] <FoxIII> ahmos, what's the problem?
[22:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> FoxIII: will ordering less disks make them ship faster? (from shipit)
[22:13] <ahmos> while kubuntu 8.04 loading i get that error message
[22:13] <ahmos> kdesudo [-u <runas>]
[22:13] <ahmos> No command arguments supplied!
[22:13] <ahmos> Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>
[22:13] <ahmos> KdeSudo will now exit...
[22:13] <FoxIII> CostaRicanQuaker, I can't see it should, but maybe you could contact them and find out. I'm sure they'll be happy to help
[22:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> sheiss
[22:14] <FoxIII> ahmos, Does this happen every time you start kubuntu?
[22:14] <ahmos> yes
[22:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> anyway thank you for your help FoxIII i;llbrb later
[22:14] <tim_> ahmos: do you mean when the desktop has appeared
[22:14] <patrick> thanks jussi01 for help worked great
[22:14] <ahmos> yes
[22:14] <FoxIII> ahmos, when you shut down or reboot, do you have any programs open?
[22:14] <tim_> ahmos - but it doesnt break anything?
[22:15] <tim_> ahmos - me too, I think its because kde tries to launch the apps you already had running, and some of them have su privelages
[22:15] <ahmos> some programmes might be opened
[22:15] <jussi01> patrick: great. be careful with it - its easy to break stuff like that