[00:00] <david_> sebsebseb, i went to system, administration, login window and removed the "show actions" menu
[00:00] <tesseracter> starfruit, you havent even got the netbook, you really want to argue about this?
[00:00] <dale1v> im new with this ubuntu stuff (installed it last night), but ive installed kde 4.2.1 fine and everything works but im getting a few artifacts on the screen. is it kde or is it the drivers?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> david_: ok I don't know
[00:00] <david_> sebsebseb, but when i go to system quit it doesnt allow me to turn it off
[00:00] <starfruit> ajehals, netbook is only 8 gb
[00:00] <sebsebseb> dale1v: artifacts?????
[00:00] <tesseracter> ajehals, i've been trying to tell him to use a VM, isnt working.
[00:00] <starfruit> tesseracter, on my laptop, dual boot is faster than vmware
[00:00] <mezquitale> dale1v, try GNOME, gnome is a lot faster than KDE and a lot simpler
[00:00] <dale1v> sebsebseb, visual bugs
[00:00] <starfruit> tesseracter, my current laptop
[00:01] <ajehals> starfruit - so? You will need disk space whether it is in a VM or a physical partition.
[00:01] <sebsebseb> dale1v: ok do you have your graphics card driver installed?
[00:01] <rww> LifeIsPain: stab Nytrix. And the general consensus here is that xchat-gnome sucks too.]
[00:01]  * LifeIsPain stabs Nytrix a bit
[00:01] <tesseracter> starfruit, what the heck are you trying to do with this thing?
[00:01] <dale1v> urm yeah i do. when i selected advanced visual effects in settings in gnome it downloaded a set of drivers
[00:02] <starfruit> tesseracter, use two OS
[00:02] <Nytrix> lol
[00:02] <rww> Nytrix: quit sending people to the wrong room. xchat-gnome isn't supported for #xchat, and we shouldn't be sending people to #xchat for xchat problems most of the time anyway.
[00:02] <rww> LifeIsPain: thanks for pointing it out.
[00:02] <Nytrix> my bad
[00:02] <LifeIsPain> I don't mind answering questions related to xchat itself, it is why I contribute there, but it doesn't help with missinformation
[00:03] <needhelp> Is xmms obsolete? Then which player is newer and at least equally good?  I just installed audacious. Looks very like xmms
[00:06] <tesseracter> starfruit left...
[00:07] <donavan01> starfruit: dont get me wrong im all about doing things just for the sake of doing it but I really dont see that point other than bragging rights
[00:08] <donavan01> :(
[00:08] <r33tfux0r> Greetings.  My monitor is no longer showing up properly (unknown) and my resolution choices are incorrect.  I am running 8.10.  I checked xorg.conf and tried to reconfigure the server to no avail.
[00:08] <tesseracter> so, anyone seen someone put one audio stream to the front speakers, and another stream to the rear speakers? or am i off in crazy-land?
[00:08] <ajehals> starfruit: what was the issue initially?
[00:08] <donavan01> ajehals: he ran away
[00:09] <ajehals> donavan01 - huh, didn't see him quit.  My client must be playing up...
[00:09] <donavan01> ajehals: thats ok I had to be told too thats why I passed the message along
[00:09] <ajehals> ta
[00:09] <sidewalk> anyone know how to setup wpa ad-hoc under debian? where can i find a good manual? network-manager doesn't work
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !debian
[00:10] <sebsebseb> sidewalk: try #debian
[00:10] <bazhang> sidewalk, debian has very ample documentation; this is ubuntu support only
[00:10] <donavan01> so I accidentally killed my networkmanager applet and now I dont know how to get it back and its not showing up in the add applet window ... a little help?
[00:10] <sidewalk> anyone know how to setup wpa ad-hoc under ubuntu? where can i find a good manual? network-manager doesn't work
[00:11] <sidewalk> :P
[00:11] <sebsebseb> sidewalk: a quick change of distro?  or you meant to type Ubuntu all along?
[00:11] <mmanders> You could try wicd - an alternative network manager GUI that's pretty good#
[00:11] <sidewalk> sebsebseb: ubuntu ubuntu. 8.10 :PÅ
[00:11] <sebsebseb> sidewalk: why did you put Debian then?  :D
[00:11] <bazhang> sidewalk, how about seeing your sources.list -->paste.ubuntu.com
[00:12] <ajehals> sidewalk - shall I drop my wpa config files from *debian* onto a pastebin for you...?
[00:12] <sidewalk> ajehals: would be nice to see
[00:15] <sidewalk> ajehals: url?
[00:17] <Edbuntu> any plans for the next release of Ubuntu yet?
[00:17] <Edbuntu> I know its a month off
[00:18] <bazhang> Edbuntu, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <_VIM_> try #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <ajehals> msg sidewalk  http://pastebin.com/m290cb65f
[00:18] <LjL> !doesn't work | sidewalk
[00:18] <Rictu> I'm not the brightest bulb in the room but I have a problem that I'm sure you folks can help with. Every time I attempt to run updates fetch fails and the system asks if I want to partial upgrade which never runs complete. Any ideas how I can rectify the problem ?
[00:20] <LjL> !pm | sidewalk
[00:20] <SwissChse> Synaptic, check for broken packages...
[00:21] <LjL> sidewalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[00:21] <Edbuntu> when do you guys suspect that ubuntu will be able toplay windows games like COD and GTA ?
[00:21] <rogue780> I just installed ubuntu on a system with an ide drive as primary master, and then a sata drive as well. the sata drive is mounted at /data/share and the ide drive is the / partition. When it starts to boot it gives me an error 2, which I believe is a partition not found error. I believe this is because ubuntu's installer detects the drives in a different order then grub...how do I edit grub to detect them in the right order?
[00:21] <bazhang> Edbuntu, check the appdb
[00:21] <LjL> sidewalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs for the non-ad-hoc-specific instructions including WPA usage
[00:21] <zash> what the hell, gnome-do totaly locked X, and refused to die
[00:21] <rogue780> I've managed to get bash and my / partition mounted ... not sure where to look
[00:22] <mylisto> trying to rip a movie I own for a backup...
[00:22] <mylisto> the dvd is like 7.9g
[00:22] <LjL> Edbuntu: quite possibly never
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: I think GTA maybe works now
[00:22] <mylisto> my dvd's are only the original kind...4.5g?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: just dual boot for Windows games, that you can't get working in Ubuntu
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: or stop playing them, and use  Linux native games instead :)
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: or play stuff on a games console
[00:23] <Edbuntu> k
[00:23] <danes_> Is Tue Jan 19 03:14:08 GMT 2038 still a problem nowadays?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Edbuntu: why you calilng yourself Edubuntu?
[00:23] <LjL> sebsebseb: i suppose he can figure those out by himself...
[00:24] <_VIM_> danes luckly i'll either be gone, or too old to care :)
[00:24] <mylisto> I would love to rip the entire dvd...is this at all possible?
[00:24] <rogue780> sebsebseb, linux native games are usually fairly lame, with the exception of urban terror
[00:24] <sebsebseb> LjL: I guess one day Desktop Linux will have enough market share, and then the commerical games companies will take it seriously
[00:24] <meshuggah> hello, i only want to know when the new ubuntu ? April 2009 ?
[00:24] <meshuggah> rogue780, what is urban terror?
[00:25] <LjL> sebsebseb: quite possibly, but meanwhile, i don't think you're helping him giving obvious suggestions
[00:25] <rogue780> meshuggah, urban terror is a first person shooter based on the quake3 engine. it's super fun
[00:25] <sidewalk> anyone tried wicd under ubuntu?
[00:25] <rogue780> works on mac, linux, and windows
[00:25] <sidewalk> !wicd
[00:26] <danes_> _VIM_ I just read about it as a geek joke, but got interested in know more about it. So there is no solution up to this day?
[00:26] <LjL> !fishing | sidewalk
[00:26] <sebsebseb> LjL: well there are people that put  Ubuntu on thinking that they can play their WIndows games on it as well
[00:26] <bazhang> sidewalk, no real need, the command line works fine; would you like a guide from the forums?
[00:26] <meshuggah> rogue780, do you think it run on p4 1.5 ghz 256mb ram geforce4 64mb ?
[00:26] <rogue780> works on mac, linux, and windows? I'm having issues booting
[00:26] <vyadmin> is there a how to on how to administrate apach2...  newby on a new install of ubuntu
[00:26] <DrHalan1> hey, i uploaded a package to my ppa with dput and it said that uploading went fine but i didn'T get any email from launchpad nor did the package apear in the ppa
[00:26] <_VIM_> danes to be honest I have no clue sorry.
[00:26] <sebsebseb> !lamp
[00:26] <LjL> sebsebseb: and answering "possibly never" seems enough
[00:26] <mylisto> is it at all possible to compress a 7.5 gig dvd to a 4.5 gig dvd
[00:26] <bazhang> sebsebseb, please /msg ubottu thanks
[00:26] <rogue780> meshuggah, it runs on my mac mini (1.4ghz ppc, 512mb ram, 32mb vram) well enough to play
[00:27] <bazhang> mylisto, no
[00:27] <sebsebseb> bazhang: it wasn't clear, but it was a reply to  the mysql question
[00:27] <meshuggah> rogue780, so i should try, thank for suggestion
[00:27] <meshuggah> mylisto, i did a year ago when i had winshitxp
[00:27] <mylisto> so I need to get agual layer?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: I guess you may want to do LAMP so see above
[00:27] <LjL> !language | meshuggah
[00:27] <meshuggah> lol
[00:27] <bazhang> meshuggah, please keep it family friendly
[00:27] <mylisto> meshuggah: how did you do that?
[00:27] <LjL> !lol | meshuggah
[00:28] <mylisto> laughing out loud :D
[00:28] <meshuggah> mylisto, i dont remember what program, but i ripped dvd, auto-compressing it to about 55-60% average to fit 4.7gig
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !mysql |  vyadmin
[00:28] <mylisto> so not possible in ubuntu?
[00:28] <meshuggah> mylisto, i did a few of it...maybe a hundred
[00:29] <meshuggah> mylisto, i say it is probably possible
[00:29] <armence> OK, I downloaded the installer for the Java SDK. It is a .bin file. How do I run it?
[00:29] <vyadmin> if I just install apache2- LAMP on ubuntu WS so I can test and develop on it, is there a simple way to install the LAMP platform?
[00:29] <juanito_> how can i get this package libdvdcss2 ?
[00:29] <LjL> !libdvdcss2 | juanito_
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: last time I did LAMP on Ubuntu it was very easy
[00:29] <bazhang> juanito_, dl from medibuntu.org
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: that was over a year ago though
[00:29] <meshuggah> mylisto, i am pretty sure you can, but sorry i dont know how, i have linux installed since 1month 1week, 1week of ubuntu and now 1 month of debian
[00:29] <mylisto> hmm...
[00:29] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: yeah you just pretty much install LAMP I think
[00:29] <meshuggah> mylisto, search google for : ubuntu rip dvd
[00:30] <mylisto> anything like dvd shrink for ubuntu?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> vyadmin: pretty much just install it I think
[00:30] <juanito_> thanks
[00:30] <meshuggah> mylisto, it was one of these program i tried
[00:30] <LjL> vyadmin: the "LAMP platform" is just apache, mysql and php. nothing more.
[00:30] <meshuggah> mylisto, try google, he is your friend
[00:30] <sebsebseb> mylisto: maybe you can find an alternative on  these sites  http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[00:30] <vyadmin> what about an apache managementment tutorial.. which files need to be maintained and updated?
[00:30] <meshuggah> mylisto, and when he knows something he answer, he is not like some human
[00:30] <meshuggah> \:)
[00:31] <sam_> I need some help with my iPod.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !ipd
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !ipod
[00:31] <sam_> All of the songs have been "orphaned".
[00:31] <meshuggah> !dvdrip
[00:31] <mylisto> :D dvd95 :D
[00:31] <sam_> So they are on the iPod Hard Drive, but they dont show up in songs- so basically th thing is holding like 30 GB of music but theres nothing i can do to make it play the files
[00:32] <meshuggah> mylisto, you found?
[00:32] <armence> So, more generally, how do I execute a .bin file?
[00:32] <mylisto> just open a dvd ripper program
[00:32] <sebsebseb> sam_: there are itunes alternatives and that for Linux
[00:32] <mylisto> yeah I did
[00:32] <mylisto> get dvd 9 to 5
[00:32] <meshuggah> mylisto, great
[00:32] <sebsebseb> !bin
[00:32] <mylisto> its in the packager
[00:32] <mylisto> only problem...
[00:32] <meshuggah> mylisto, now rip enough dvd to put hollywood to his knee
[00:32] <mylisto> shows the video tracks...
[00:32] <sam_> Yea. I used GTKpod to "Check iPod's files". but that ended up freezing at the same spot like 3 times.
[00:32] <mylisto> :D
[00:32] <mylisto> its a home movie :D
[00:32] <LjL> armence: are you sure you want to? most software should be installed via the package manager, and running random programs like that may be harmful. anyway, ./filename.bin
[00:33] <meshuggah> mylisto, lol :)
[00:33] <ajehals> armence make it executable with chmod and then execute it - open a terminal and type in the filename...
[00:33] <mylisto> and it shows 2 audio tracks, both ac-3
[00:33] <sebsebseb> sam_: ok  check these sites out http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[00:33] <mylisto> one is 6 channels and one is 2 channels
[00:33] <meshuggah> mylisto, take the 2nd
[00:33] <mylisto> ?
[00:33] <ajehals> armence  - is this the java installer? - because there are comprehensive instructions on the sun site for that.
[00:33] <mylisto> can't I do both?
[00:33] <meshuggah> mylisto, yes you can
[00:33] <grymme> heeey, help. :O sudo apt-get install unrar UNRAR DONT EXiST. so I install unrar-free. and that one cant unrar my rars.. :P what do i do?
[00:33] <mylisto> thats for surround sound isn't it?
[00:33] <grymme> !unrar
[00:33] <sam_> But i  need help restoring all of my files back. how else can i do that
[00:34] <meshuggah> mylisto, but me when ripping, i always took the main video + the 2 channel french
[00:34] <armence> ajehals: I didn't see those instructions... thanks though
[00:34] <meshuggah> mylisto, do what you need  :)
[00:34] <sebsebseb> sam_: I don't know, but at least one of those sites mentions a good Itunes alternative
[00:34] <grymme> !info unrar-free
[00:34] <LjL> armence: you're installing java? why not use the package?
[00:34] <armence> LjL: I'm installing the SDK
[00:34] <sam_> it's not the itunes alternative im worried about. its getting my music back to the ipod
[00:34] <webBuilder> Hello friends I am trying to follow this instruction "deb http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu hardy main
[00:34] <webBuilder> deb-src http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu hardy main" it keep telling me deb: command not found is there anyone who is willing to give me a direction
[00:35] <sebsebseb> sam_: don't know maybe there's a ipod channel #ipod  I know theres  #mac
[00:35] <LjL> !info sun-java6-jdk | armence
[00:35] <mylisto> dammit..getting read errors
[00:35] <sebsebseb> sam_: also Ipod is a type of hardare so  #hardware and  #linux is a more general Linux channel
[00:35] <ajehals> webBuilder - I think the instructions are to add that to your sources list. (/etc/apt/sources.list
[00:35] <ajehals> )
[00:35] <webBuilder> ajehals: you are correct but how do I do that
[00:36] <mylisto> error reading NAV packet
[00:36] <webBuilder> ajehals I just need to add that link in to that list ?
[00:36] <meshuggah> damn, this channel is way more busy than the debian one....and one thousand more people
[00:36] <mylisto> the dvd has no scratches
[00:36] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yep
[00:36] <ajehals> either open the file and enter it, or use 'echo'.  that would be $echo "whatever" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:36] <g0tcha> hey guys, whats the best way to see cpu usage durring an installation through terminal?
[00:37] <sebsebseb> !cpu
[00:37] <meshuggah> mylisto, if you copy it to your hard drive first?
[00:37] <ajehals> webBuilder - although you would have to use 'sudo echo' I suppose.
[00:37] <ensay> how come even as root on 8.10 i cant  delete a file with  rm -rf /mnt/filename    where perms is 444 for filename?
[00:37] <willytell> Hello all, I'm trying to select a video conference software for install in a server..... some idea?
[00:38] <willytell> some video conference software server, any idea?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> willytell: not sure, but maybe you can find one on http://www.osalt.com  or  http://www.linuxeq.com  also if you search these sites you can find pretty much any type of software, but some you can't just get yet since early development  http://www.sf.net  http://www.freshmeat.net
[00:38] <ensay> willytell-> must see your face or just share the desktop?
[00:39] <meshuggah> rogue780, i am new to linux, which file should i download first?, and do i need some non-free quake3 files first?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: clean install?
[00:39] <willytell> mainly a webcam
[00:39] <webBuilder> ajehals Thank you so much I'm trying to see if ti works
[00:39] <ensay> willytell-> dont know,try skype
[00:39] <ajehals> Macer - morning.
[00:39] <willytell> ensay, a webcam could be nice at first instance.
[00:39] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, installing urban terror
[00:40] <ensay> willytell-> do you really need to show your face?
[00:40] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, http://www.urbanterror.net/page.php?6
[00:40] <willytell> ensay, I've tested skype and it works very good. But, I would like to install something in the LAN.
[00:40] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: native Linux game or wine??????
[00:40] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, native for sure
[00:40] <Free0ne> Well, I just ran sudo visudo and added the timeout line...  I read online that since it opened it through nano and no newline was added it failed... Well here is the problem, now I can't run anything as root. I can't edit /etc/sudoers because I can't get root priviledges. Any help? :(
[00:40] <armence> LjL: thanks. I really need to get used to the idea that if I can't see something in under three seconds, it does not mean Microsoft did not see fit to put it on my system and that I have to download something
[00:41] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok sudo apt-get  install urbanterror  ?
[00:41] <welp> Free0ne: Poor sudo.
[00:41] <willytell> ensay, not really.
[00:41] <rogue780> meshuggah, hold on a sec
[00:41] <ensay> willytell-> then look into vnc based viewers  particularly  x11vnc
[00:41] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, it dont find it, but i am running debian lenny not ubuntu :) dont ask me what i am doing here lol :)
[00:42] <ensay> how come even as root on 8.10 i cant  delete a file with  rm -rf /mnt/filename    where perms is 444 for filename?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok  you want #debian
[00:42] <rogue780> meshuggah, http://dls.urt.voxel.net/q3ut4/UrbanTerror_41_FULL.zip
[00:42] <LjL> ensay: is that filesystem mounted read/write?
[00:42] <ensay> no extra info when  doing a getfacl on the file
[00:42] <meshuggah> rogue780, thank
[00:42] <ajehals> ensay - what is it mounted as?
[00:42] <willytell> ensay, sebsebseb thank you very much.
[00:42] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, no no i am fine here :)
[00:42] <ensay> LjL yes i mounted it as rw
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !debian
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !support
[00:42] <ensay> ajehals-> rw
[00:42] <rogue780> mesh unzip it, and one of the files "iourbanterror" i think is the one for linux
[00:42] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yep not Debian suppourt
[00:43] <LjL> ensay: but is it? it might have been automatically mounted as ro if some problem was detected, check "mount"
[00:43] <mictor> anyone know a good a way to recover data on a ssd?
[00:43] <willytell> ensay, have you tested Ekiga?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: :D   what I will do next is :D
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !ot  |  meshuggah
[00:43] <LjL> !recover | mictor
[00:43] <meshuggah> lol
[00:43] <ajehals> ensay - actual device or something that could have independent r/w control (nfs server/thumb disk with a lock etc..)
[00:43] <ajehals> ensay - also can you chown/chmod it?
[00:43] <ensay> ajehals-> this is linux ext3 filesystem..
[00:43] <sahil> im having a little trouble getting my vga output to work on a dell inspiron 1525 any ideas?
[00:43] <ensay> ajehals-> cant even chmod it
[00:44] <g0tcha> anyone know whats the best way to see cpu usage durring an installation through terminal?
[00:44] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, ok ok :) do you mind if i stay there, i will stop asking question and try to only answer question ? :)
[00:44] <ajehals> ensay - a local file system?
[00:44] <vyadmin> I know what LAMP is... but I am trying to figure out how to add virtual hosts...  where are the instructions on how to do this?
[00:44] <ensay> ajehals-> local in a sense that is /dev/sdb2     here.. /dev/sdb2 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)   mount command results
[00:44] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, cause it is a little more lively here, a little..:)
[00:44] <sebsebseb> meshuggah:  if I was a mod I might boot you out ha ha :D  nah  not really since you seem ok
[00:44] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: indeed  Ubuntu has more users than Debian
[00:44] <ajehals> ensay - yeah local enough. Can you unmount it?
[00:45] <ensay> ajehals-> yeah i can manually mount and unmount /dev/sdb2
[00:45] <sar4j> @g0tcha : look at top
[00:45] <ajehals> ensay  and it makes no difference?
[00:45] <ensay> ajehals-> nope, it does not make a difference
[00:46] <sholeh> join #jakarta
[00:46] <_VIM_> id rather not
[00:46] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, i like ubuntu, but when trying debian on another partition, debian screwed the boot of ubuntu, so i didnt reinstalled ubuntu cause i lend my cd to another one.   I am doing my best to convert people to stop using windows. ;)
[00:46] <ajehals> ensay, so its not write protected media, its mounted rw, permissions are 444 and you can't chown, chmod or remove it as root?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: oh Grub went bad?
[00:47] <FelipeS> hey guys I'm trying to build a program from source, but it's telling me the following when running make:
[00:47] <FelipeS> cc1: warnings being treated as errors
[00:47] <FelipeS> jrb.c:554: error: ‘jrb_print_tree’ defined but not used
[00:47] <ensay> ajehals-> affirmative, thats why am stumped
[00:47] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, yes grub went bad, 2 times lol
[00:47] <Free0ne> *sigh* I have to reboot into recovery mode apparently to re-enable root and fix the sudoers file lol. bye everyone ;) <3
[00:47] <ajehals> ensay - how big is the file? can you read it?
[00:47] <g0tcha> sar4j, where at top?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok Grub can be fixed
[00:47] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, when will the new ubuntu will be ready is it april 2009?
[00:47] <Brad777> Hi is there a file like the rc.conf file in arch that has all of the daemons that autostart in ubuntu?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yep April
[00:47] <_VIM_> late april no doubt
[00:48] <nightrid3r> meshuggah april 23
[00:48] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: end of April, but I will get the beta in a week or so
[00:48] <ensay> ajehals-> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 10224 Dec 29 00:41 extlinux.sys   so its fairly small, and when file extlinux.sys its says its data, binary when displayed
[00:48] <ajehals> ensay - if it's 444 you should be able to do so as your user.
[00:48] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, yes but i didnt minded, i wanted to try a few distribution
[00:48] <mmanders> So what are the major differences between Hardy and Januty (Loving Hardy on my laptop)!?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: Debian is 100%  free software and open source?
[00:48] <LjL> mmanders: that Jaunty is not yet released and may fry your system at any time if you use it.
[00:49] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, we can add repository to download non free
[00:49] <mmanders> LjL: lol fair enough
[00:49] <sebsebseb> mmanders: Hardy is LTS,  Jaunty  will be more cutting edege
[00:49] <sebsebseb> !lts
[00:49] <mmanders> Still, I was pleasantly surprised at how well my upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 went!
[00:49] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, but it is "locked" standard
[00:49] <ajehals> ensay, I'd try a chmod 700 extlinux.sys again, just to be sure, but other than that, as root, I have no idea, even if it was in use you should be able to remove it... can you move/rename it?
[00:49] <Brad777> Hi is there a file like the rc.conf file in arch that has all of the daemons that autostart in ubuntu?
[00:49] <mmanders> So it's best to stick with 8.10 and maybe try 9,04 on KVM
[00:49] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: locked????
[00:49] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, debian is a little faster, but a little more complicated
[00:50] <LjL> !ot
[00:50] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yeah I still haven't tried Debian properly after all this time
[00:50] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, not set to on by default, we need to add some line, or remove some # before some lines
[00:50] <sebsebseb> LjL: indeed
[00:50] <ensay> ajehals-> am not getting very far..it fails.. thats okay, its only a small file
[00:50] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, debian is nice, but ubuntu was easier for a newbie like me, i am using linux since less than a month and a half
[00:51] <LjL> meshuggah: can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[00:51] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: yeah we are off topic hummmmm
[00:51] <meshuggah> LjL, sorry
[00:51] <sebsebseb> LjL: are you a mod?
[00:51] <_VIM_> you cant tell?
[00:51] <LjL> sebsebseb: no, not a mod.
[00:51] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: well Bazhang and Flannel I think, but other mods not sure who they are
[00:52] <sebsebseb> oh yeah
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Jack Sparrow
[00:52] <kattollikisd> Hello, is there is some page to download game for ubuntu 8.10 in .deb (Not getdeb pleases)
[00:52] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: you can /msg ubottu ops  and get a pretty good idea
[00:52] <jrib> !games | kattollikisd
[00:52] <Flannel> sebsebseb: this isn't the place for this conversation.  This channel is dedicated to support.  Please take it elsewhere.  If you'd like to discuss your issue with the operators, feel free to come to #ubuntu-ops, and we can talk about it.
[00:53] <ajehals> ensay - could be indicative of some issue with that media though... you could do a lsattr on the file too...
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Flannel: nah I was just wondering who the mods were that's all
[00:54] <sebsebseb> LjL: you are according  to that command
[00:54] <ensay> ajehals-> off hand you remember this ..   ----i-------------- /mnt/extlinux.sys   what does the i stood for?
[00:54] <_VIM_> you said "mod" not "op"
[00:54] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: ok what's the difference?
[00:54] <Flannel> Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:54] <ensay> ajehals-> thats result of lsattr
[00:54] <_VIM_> anyways we're getting offtopic again *Shutting up now*
[00:54] <meshuggah> lol
[00:55] <ajehals> ensay i = immutable, chattr -i to remove it.  It effectivley makes it read only IIRC
[00:56] <ensay> ajehals-> ahh okay.. thanks
[00:56] <ajehals> ensay - wierd that its set though.
[00:56] <LjL> sebsebseb: no, according to that command, i'm an op.
[00:56] <sebsebseb> LjL: what's the difference?
[00:56] <ensay> ajehals-> yeah, and i dont recall creating that file, i usually only copy from a livecd..
[00:57] <LjL> sebsebseb: there's nothing called "mods" on irc.
[00:57] <sebsebseb> LjL: ok
[00:57] <eseven73> mods is a Forum's term
[00:57] <ajehals> ensay - preserving attributes from a system file on a liveCD during a copy then... Ah well.
[00:57] <sebsebseb> eseven73: right ok, subject droped then, since off topic
[00:58] <ensay> ajehals-> oh, is that what i was?
[00:58] <ensay> ajehals-> oh, is that what it* was?
[00:58] <ajehals> ensay - at a guess.
[00:59] <pluma> How do I tell a program I run from a true terminal (tty1-6) to use my active X session as video/audio output rather than just fail?
[00:59] <ensay> ajehals-> excellent guess.. after i chattr -i  I was able to delete
[00:59] <ensay> thanks
[00:59] <ajehals> ensay - no probs.
[00:59] <sexcopter> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to use regex or wildcards in urls with wget?
[01:00] <softwarejonas> !wget | sexcopter
[01:01] <softwarejonas> sexcopter: i dont think you can.
[01:01] <pluma> sexcopter: There's a Perl tool that does that for you.
[01:01] <a> jemand da? ICH BIN GANZ NEU HIER
[01:01] <_VIM_> !de | a
[01:02] <pluma> sexcopter: I forgot the name, sadly.
[01:02] <sexcopter> pluma: sounds interesting, i'll have a hunt, thanks
[01:03] <alex___> i just installed ubuntu netinst with awesome window manager, how can I get my mouse to work? what package am I missing?
[01:04] <softwarejonas> alex_: what is the "awesome window manager"?
[01:04] <zash> awesome!
[01:04] <zash> is awesome
[01:04] <alex___> http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[01:04] <jrib> softwarejonas: ironically, a window manager that doesn't need a mouse
[01:04] <alex___> jrib: ya, but it doesnt work
[01:05] <alex___> fluxbox is having the same problem
[01:05] <GWild> hello all - thinking of changing from my current distro to Ubuntu
[01:05] <makeitfunky> hello
[01:05] <GWild> ubuntu is modeled after Debian yes?
[01:05] <alex___> jrib: i installed cli only, apt-get installed xorg and awesome so far and thats it
[01:05] <jrib> !debian | GWild
[01:05] <alex___> wondering what package i need ( or dpkg-reconfigure step ) to get mouse support
[01:06] <mylisto> trying to figure out which version of ubuntu I have
[01:06] <mylisto> where can I find out?\
[01:06] <GWild> !kubuntu | GWild
[01:06] <jrib> alex___: does your mouse work on a regular install?
[01:06] <_VIM_> !version
[01:06] <makeitfunky> hello
[01:06] <alex___> jrib: no idea, never tried it, it's a logitech g5
[01:06] <alex___> jrib: there is usb power to it
[01:06] <jrib> alex___: try a live cd
[01:06] <mylisto> thans
[01:06] <Celeron> agggggggggggg
[01:06] <mylisto> thanks
[01:06] <makeitfunky> i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:07] <makeitfunky> can somebody help me?
[01:07] <Celeron> afffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffferrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:07] <Celeron> fffffffrr5rrrrr
[01:07] <anthony> lu
[01:07] <_VIM_> Celeron: please remove the cat or toddler from your keyboard
[01:07] <_VIM_> :)
[01:07] <anthony> ?
[01:07] <makeitfunky> lu
[01:07] <laomi> ？？
[01:07] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:08] <mylisto> tried this
[01:08] <mylisto> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:08] <mylisto> got this
[01:08] <mylisto> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:08] <Flannel> !cn | laomi
[01:08] <mylisto> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:08] <mylisto>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:09] <Flannel> mylisto: You can't use two programs that deal with packages at the same time, you apparently have something else running
[01:09] <makeitfunky> mylisto close synaptic
[01:10] <mylisto> yeah...stupid synaptic
[01:10] <alex___> what's the command to dpkg-reconfigure all of xorg, including setting up the mouse?
[01:11] <jrib> alex___: that makes no sense
[01:11] <mylisto> thans
[01:11] <mylisto> thanks
[01:11] <wolf_> Im trying to mount a terrabyte hard drive as Ext3 in Ubuntu. When mounting im onwly showing 860 gb of free space, it should be around 931.51gb. Do i need to moount with some special options?
[01:12] <alex___> jrib: i remember setting up xorg in ubuntu before and it asked me much more questions, such as screen size, mouse type etc.  now it stops at keyboard input then dumps me to a shell
[01:12] <jrib> alex___: because that's done automatically now
[01:12] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:13] <jrib> alex___: what exactly did you install?
[01:13] <alex___> jrib: minimal cd
[01:13] <jrib> alex___: after that
[01:13] <jilianghou> hello
[01:13] <alex___> jrib: apt-get install xorg, apt-get install awesome
[01:14] <alex___> jrib: my xorg config file is blank
[01:14] <makeitfunky> Monospace 9
[01:14] <makeitfunky> Monospace 9
[01:14] <jrib> alex___: yes, that's normal.  Like I said, the input devices are configured automatically
[01:14] <alex___> jrib: ya, it didnt get my mouse right
[01:14]  * Brad777_away is away: Gone away for now
[01:14] <makeitfunky> i try
[01:14] <_VIM_> !away > Brad777_away
[01:15] <jrib> alex___: try xserver-xorg
[01:15] <alex___> jrib: it is installed
[01:15] <jrib> alex___: did your mouse work with the live cd?
[01:15] <alex___> jrib: yes
[01:16] <bluelightningvid> Hello, I was wondering if there is video editing software compatible, or for the operating system of ubuntu?
[01:16] <nightrid3r> bluelightningvid kino
[01:17] <jrib> alex___: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the install
[01:17] <nightrid3r> !medibuntu
[01:17] <rogue780> anyone here ever had a error 2 with grub?
[01:17] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:17] <bluelightningvid> thanks nightrid3r
[01:19] <alex___> jrib: http://pastie.org/410594
[01:19] <lonna> hey guys what package do i need to run java appplets on web sites (i.e yahoo games etc)
[01:20] <cdm10> !java | lonna
[01:20] <lonna> ty
[01:20] <tony426> are there any font kerning things i can do in linux to improve fonts?
[01:20] <cdm10> lonna: more specifically, install sun-java6-plugin
[01:20] <ILoveXP> Yahoo Games? Seriously?
[01:20] <stealth-> is it possible to run 3d programs (such as wine) through a vnc connection?
[01:21] <mgolisch> no
[01:21] <stealth-> ugh
[01:21] <stealth-> thanks
[01:21] <jrib> alex___: your xorg.conf?
[01:21] <stealth-> anyway to get the data somewere else?
[01:21] <alex___> jrib: it's empty
[01:22] <jrib> alex___: pastebin
[01:22] <stealth-> mgolisch: what about watching :0 on a remote machine thats running a 3d program on it?
[01:22] <alex___> jrib: it's empty.. there is no xorg.conf
[01:22] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa
[01:22] <ghang> hi I have a file in trash cannot delete with "empty  trash" I would like to know where is the trash folder path is so then I can manual rm -r
[01:22] <mgolisch> stealth-: that still wont do good, x11 is quite hungry on resources, it wont do good on weak links
[01:22] <makeitfunky>  i have a problem to configure a sound card emu 1616m pci and alsa. can somebody help me?
[01:23] <jrib> alex___: you're being ambiguous.  Is there an empty /etc/X11/xorg.conf or does the file not exist?
[01:23] <mgolisch> stealth-: and i have no idea about 3d stuff, i mean srsrly all stuff would have to go through the wire, i wouldnt expect any performance from that, even if it works
[01:23] <nightrid3r> makeitfunky describe your problem, then maybe someone can help
[01:23] <alex___> jrib: the file does not exist
[01:23] <Gnea> !sound | makeitfunky
[01:23] <cdm10> ghang: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[01:23] <stealth-> mgolisch: well, the connection isnt far. just through my router to another machine
[01:23] <ghang> thanks cdm
[01:24] <makeitfunky> i have read a lot of thing
[01:24] <jrib> alex___: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <stealth-> mgolisch: im trying to put my laptop by my bed so I can run a 3d program my laptop cant handle from my main system
[01:24] <mgolisch> stealth-: try it, but i think it wont work well as the software would use the localy availiable opengl libraries
[01:24] <makeitfunky> alsa is compiled for my two different soud card, but only one is detected
[01:24] <stealth-> mgolisch: okay, thanks.
[01:24] <mgolisch> you wont get more than software rendering
[01:24] <makeitfunky> when i do assound conf list i can only see one
[01:24] <rapt0rjezuz> what is a Nessus Server
[01:25] <makeitfunky> the other is ok with ls pci
[01:25] <makeitfunky> but not with asoundconf list
[01:26] <makeitfunky> and the alsa modul is compiled for the two sound card
[01:26] <makeitfunky> i've read everything i could but i cand find the solution
[01:26] <alex___> jrib: http://pastie.org/410601
[01:27] <jrib> alex___: restart X, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:27] <alex___> jrib: how do i do that, im on a command line (no x running)
[01:27] <makeitfunky> ubottu so what you say now?
[01:27] <makeitfunky> Gnea???
[01:28] <makeitfunky> nightrid3r????
[01:28] <rogue780> has anyone here been able to fix a grub error 2?
[01:29] <jrib> alex___: then start X
[01:29] <makeitfunky> nobody can help me????
[01:29] <alex___> started
[01:30] <alex___> jrib: ^
[01:30] <tekteen> !patience | makeitfunky
[01:30] <jrib> alex___: and pastebin the log
[01:30] <makeitfunky> ok ok sorrry
[01:30] <sebsebseb> !ubottu
[01:31] <sebsebseb> makeitfunky: he is just a bot
[01:31] <tekteen> sebsebseb: yes, but the bot was right to say it. He is sorry to the people, not the bot that said it
[01:32] <makeitfunky> yes exactly!
[01:32] <sebsebseb> tekteen: ok well I scanned up a bit,  and saw some stuff,  so I missed most of it
[01:32] <tekteen> ok
[01:32] <tony426_>  is there a task manager for use with awn?
[01:33] <alex___> jrib: one sec
[01:33] <tashley> tony426, i actually un-installed gnome-panel and installed stalonetray
[01:34] <tashley> tony426, so all i have now is a nice neat dock at the bottom and a transparent tray at the top right :)
[01:34] <funkyHat> rogue780: this might be of use: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151682
[01:34] <remu> Hey folks, I have an HP dv4t notebook which comes with a media remote, which works just fine under Vista, but not with Ubuntu, I don't know how or even if I can get it to work. I used to have an HP dv2700 series laptop, and the remote for that used to work just fine under Ubuntu.
[01:35] <remu> And just for additional info, the remote stuff should be the same as for HP dv5t and HP dv7t.
[01:35] <Brad777> Hi is there a file that i can edit to change which daemons start automatically on Ubuntu?
[01:35] <tekteen> Brad777: no, however the program sysv-rc-conf is useful
[01:36] <Brad777> tekteen: thank you so much :-D
[01:36] <remu> Btw, I've tried to get the codes from the remote using xev but no luck :-(
[01:38] <win2k> alright
[01:38] <Droopsta915> What is the program called that looks like device mangaer for windows?
[01:38] <Brad777> remu: this might be of some assistance http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794493
[01:38] <TheBuzzSaw> Can anyone offer me assistance in getting my microphone to work in Ubuntu?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> !sound
[01:39] <tony426_> tashley: i have that installed now. does it work well with awn? i seemed to look tacky
[01:39] <LjL> Droopsta915: probably some interface to "lshw"
[01:39] <win2k> i have an ATI RAGE 128 Pro AGP card that I can't get 1280x1024 out of on Ubuntu 8.04
[01:39] <win2k> i like that resolution, and i'm trying to figure out how to get it in linux
[01:39] <alex___> jrib: still here?
[01:39] <Aroia> have a question. Does anyone know why i cannot put files on my x-ternal HHD?
[01:39] <LjL> !fixres | win2k
[01:39] <jrib> alex___: yes
[01:39] <tashley> tony426, it works great. it has nothing to do with AWN, but can replace the task bar very well
[01:39] <alex___> jrib: http://pastie.org/410607
[01:39] <remu> Brad777, Thanks, I'll look into it.
[01:39] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:40] <Tetracomm> Is there any way to use Shoutcast to boradcast from my Ubuntu machine?
[01:40] <tashley> tony426, you should read the Man page for stalonetray, put it into transparency, and put in the X-Y cords for where it should be on your desktop
[01:40] <lonna> firefox is freezing every time i open it (i just got done installing sun-java6-plugin)  im sure this could easily be fixed with a reboot, but i know the beauty of linux is that isnt needed.  what is the terminal command to kill firefox all the way, a step deeper than killall
[01:40] <tashley> tony426, looks damn sexy on mine.
[01:40] <Brad777> remu: unfortunately i don't know anything about them i just google'd :-)
[01:40] <Brad777> lonna: pkill firefox
[01:40] <tony426_> tashley: cool. i'll try it. i'm assuming it has an "always stay on top" function?
[01:41] <ILoveXP> lonna: ps -ef | grep firefox, then kill -9 <process id>
[01:41] <lonna> ILoveXP: oh yea! <3 grep
[01:41] <win2k> $ xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
[01:41] <remu> Brad777, yeah, I don't think that applies in my case, thanks for trying though!
[01:41] <Droopsta915> Thanks, I found it, its gnome device manager
[01:42] <win2k> for that to work on VGA do I need to set s-video to VGA or something?
[01:42] <Brad777> remu: sorry... wish i could have helped more
[01:43] <remu> Brad777, its alright, it would be nice to get this remote working, but its not the end of the world
[01:43] <ILoveXP> it's the end of the world as we know it!
[01:43] <Aroia> have a question. Does anyone know why i cannot put files on my x-ternal HHD?
[01:43] <cdm10> Aroia: what happens when you try?
[01:43] <Aroia> nothing
[01:43] <Aroia> just puts the item on my desktop
[01:44] <cdm10> Aroia: how are you trying to get the files on?
[01:44] <Aroia> i can take stuff off but i cant put anything back on
[01:44] <Aroia> with /media/SimpleDrive/aaron
[01:45] <tony426_> how do you exit out of a man page? ctrl+c doesn't work
[01:45] <LjL> tony426_: q
[01:45] <tony426_> thanks
[01:45] <ILoveXP> tony426_: reboot
[01:46] <ILoveXP> Wait, this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[01:46] <ILoveXP> sorry
[01:46] <cdm10> Aroia: can you explain what exactly you're doing to get the files on? Are you dragging them into the folder for the drive?
[01:47] <Aroia> ok. im trying to get a .iso file onto my x-ternal HHD so i can put it on another pc and burn the file
[01:47] <neher> hello everybody
[01:47] <Aroia> and i am dragging the iso from my desktop into the folder
[01:47] <Aroia> but it nothing is happening
[01:47] <Aroia> i can only take files off the HHD
[01:48] <tekteen> hi neher
[01:48] <neher> does anyone here feel like being a hero for a bit, and helping me get firefox running?   Last night I ran the update manager, downloaded the updates, shut the computer down, and today firefox would not open.
[01:48] <cdm10> Aroia: does it give you an error?
[01:48] <tekteen> neher: I had that problem
[01:48] <Aroia> 10> Aroia: how are you trying to get the files on?
[01:48] <Aroia> * DDRBoxman has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[01:48] <Aroia> * elostio<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:48] <ILoveXP> neher: when you run firefox from the command line, does it give any errors?
[01:48] <cdm10> neher: try opening a terminal and running firefox -SafeMode
[01:48] <Tetracomm> broadcast*
[01:48] <Aroia> no
[01:49] <alex___> jrib: any thoughts?
[01:49] <cdm10> Aroia: alright, what happens when you use cp on the command line? ( cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination )
[01:49] <sebsebseb> neher: heh a hero :d
[01:49] <cdm10> neher: or it might be firefox -safe-mode
[01:50] <brack10> Hi
[01:50] <jrib> alex___: sec (busy)
[01:50] <sebsebseb> brack10: hi
[01:50] <ILoveXP> it is firefox -safe-mode
[01:50] <neher> cdm10, when I enter "firefox -safe-mode" it says Segmentation Fault
[01:50] <brack10> I'm trying to get compiz to work on my old 8mb onboard video card..keeps telling me no driver found when I try to enable it
[01:50] <brack10> it's an intel onboard
[01:51] <brack10> that should work, right?
[01:51] <nightrid3r> brack10 wont work
[01:51] <brack10> oh ok
[01:51] <cdm10> neher: ugh :-/ that's not good. Can you run firefox -ProfileManager ?
[01:51] <brack10> intel doesn't work?
[01:51] <JGodbout> I want a movie making program, similar to Windows Movie Maker (not in the sense that it is crap, but in the way that it is easy to use, and good for making movies with music out of just pictures, and no clips). Any ideas?
[01:51] <neher> cdm10, segmentation fault again
[01:51] <nightrid3r> brack10 old hardware
[01:52] <tony426> tashley, you said you uninstalled gnome panel? is it safe?
[01:52] <nightrid3r> !compiz
[01:52] <Aroia>  cp: target `file:///home/aaron/Desktop/xpsp3_5512.080413-2113_usa_x86fre_spcd.iso/path/to/simpledrive' is not a directory
[01:52] <phaedra> brack10, you need a modern card capable of 3D operations.
[01:52] <brack10> I have an optiplex gx260
[01:52] <brack10> dell
[01:52] <brack10> it's got a 3d card
[01:52] <cdm10> neher: alright... let's try reinstalling it. run < sudo aptitude install firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding >
[01:52] <brack10> just small video memory
[01:53] <cdm10> neher: er, use reinstall rather than instal
[01:53] <brack10> I've found people online that say they got it to work, but I can't figure out how
[01:53] <nightrid3r> brack10 get a recent ATI or NVIDIA card
[01:53] <JGodbout> Any ideas for my question above?
[01:53] <JGodbout> Suggestions?
[01:53] <Aroia> is there a way to change a files access?
[01:54] <neer> how to choose the best server for my ubuntu os
[01:54] <neer> ?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !best
[01:54] <Jordan_U> brack10: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !lamp
[01:54] <neer> I mean the  server location
[01:54] <sebsebseb> neer: but yeah Apache is about the only web server for Linux
[01:54] <jrib> alex___: google the last line, see if anything interesting pops up.  looks like something is wrong with hal
[01:55] <neher> cdm10, I reinstalled, but it still will not run
[01:55] <bazhang> neer, do you mean select the best repo to upgrade from?
[01:55] <alex___> jrib: thanks
[01:55] <arvind_khadri> neer, a country nearer to yours
[01:55] <neer> yes
[01:55] <neher> cdm10, I get the same segmentation error
[01:55] <jscinoz> can anyoen recommand a console app for downloading podcasts, preferably something that can be used with cron?
[01:55] <neer> right now I am in China
[01:55] <Aroia> ok im am admin but it is saying i dont have the wrights to move a file... why?
[01:55] <JGodbout> It's just that the things I have seen recommended, they are most for just editing movie clips. I just want one that is good for making simple video out of pictures, not movie. So maybe I should rephrase my question. What are common movie making programs for Ubuntu that are more for making video out of pictures, instead of editing movie clips?
[01:55] <cdm10> neher: try running: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Aroia
[01:55] <jrib> alex___: check if hal is installed
[01:55] <neer> and my server location in the system is the "Main server"
[01:55] <bazhang> neer, the tw are very fast
[01:56] <neher> cdm10, I have tried that trick before, it did not work
[01:56] <Aroia> ty
[01:56] <neer> bazhang: what is tw?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> np
[01:56] <bazhang> neer, taiwan
[01:56] <neer> ok
[01:56] <tashley> tony426, yeah, sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel
[01:56] <neer> bazhang: I will surely try that
[01:56] <alex___> jrib: its not
[01:56] <Jordan_U> brack10: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:57] <alex___> jrib: even when i go through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and set ctrl:swapcaps, it doesn't take
[01:57] <cdm10> neher: I really have no idea why it's not working :-/ unless anyone else has an idea, try using another browser until an update fixes it.
[01:57] <cdm10> neher: if so many people are having this same issue, perhaps they'll fix  it.
[01:57] <neer> bazhang: but there are lot of servers in tw, which one should I choose
[01:57] <jrib> alex___: one thing at a time
[01:57] <sebsebseb> neher: Firefox issues try starting over with a new profile
[01:57] <cdm10> sebsebseb: tried it
[01:58] <neer> bazhang: because last time I selected some server, and it was so slow
[01:58] <bazhang> neer, well in synaptic package manager/add remove you can select best server iirc
[01:58] <alex___> jrib: installed hal, and now the mouse works
[01:58] <melik> is there a difference between "ls" and "dir," if not which would u recommend?
[01:58] <ziroday> neer: if you go to Software Sources > Other Servers > Find the Best Server it will pick one for you
[01:58] <bazhang> neer, the main security ones will still potentially be slow however
[01:58] <cdm10> melik: they're the same, dir is an alias for ls... makes it easier for users coming from Windows/DOS
[01:58] <tashley> melik, i never even knew dir worked in linux, lol
[01:58] <sebsebseb> cdm10: ok the unoffical Ubuntu version of Firefox can screw up
[01:58] <melik> ah thanks cdm10
[01:59] <neher> cdm10, would it appear that a lot of people are having the same problem?  Do you know if there is any support for firefox that
[01:59] <neer> ziroday: I selected  the best one too..but lot of updates related with language couldn't be updated...failed
[01:59] <melik> and yeah tashley, it does haha. i used to use dir, but i just learned about ls and IMO its way better.
[01:59] <ziroday> neer: thats fine
[01:59] <neer> ziroday: lot of updates failed to hit
[01:59] <melik> color is nice :)
[01:59] <LjL> JGodbout: i don't know about one specifically made for pictures, but i do believe most of the "normal" ones could also deal with pictures...
[01:59] <bazhang> neer, but all others will be set to tw.archive etc
[01:59] <cdm10> neher: I know one other person mentioned the same issue... I know that I'm waiting a little while 'till I update.
[01:59] <LjL> JGodbout: what are you looking for, something like a slideshow?
[01:59] <JGodbout> Sort of
[01:59] <JGodbout> With like transitions
[01:59] <JGodbout> zoom in
[01:59] <JGodbout> zoom out
[01:59] <JGodbout> stuff like that
[01:59] <FloodBot2> JGodbout: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <neher> cdm10, any suggestions for a browser?
[02:00] <tashley> cdm10, i upadted my ff3 without any issues. is that what you're reffering to?
[02:00] <cdm10> tashley: yep, neher's having issues with it
[02:00] <cdm10> neher: wait, forgot one thing... are there any newer updates?
[02:00] <cdm10> neher: there are lots, try Epiphany
[02:00] <tashley> cdm10, neher, i updated ff3 on three boxes, two 64bit and one 32bit without any problems
[02:01] <Jordan_U> neher: Have you tried running an fsck / re-installing firefox / downloading from mozilla.com ( the binary may be corrupted somehow )
[02:02] <tashley> Jordan_U, neher, never thought of that, good idea. but i thought that synaptic did md5 checks on updates?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> neher: Have you also tried running firefox in safe mode?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> tashley: It does, I was thinking it might have been corrupted after install ( hence why re-installing might fix it )
[02:03] <tashley> Jordan_U, gotcha
[02:03] <gotcha> tashley ?
[02:03] <neher> Jordan_U, what is the command for the fsck?
[02:03] <gotcha> sup?
[02:03] <cdm10> Jordan_U: neher has reinstalled, as well as tried in safe mode and with a blank profile... nothing :-/
[02:03] <tashley> gotcha ?
[02:03] <gotcha> You highlighted me
[02:03] <tashley> oh lol
[02:03] <tashley> i was saying "gotcha"
[02:03] <tashley> wasnt saying your nick
[02:04] <cdm10> neher: it can't be done while the OS is booted... so I'd think of that as a last resort. I doubt that's the problem. Have you checked for new updates?
[02:04] <tashley> thats like someone having the nick "install"
[02:04] <tashley> and saying sup everytime someone said install
[02:04] <tritium> !enter | tashley
[02:04] <gotcha> Not when u are a german :-)
[02:04] <neher> cdm10, this is probably relevent
[02:04] <Jordan_U> neher: Reboot into "recovery mode" ( single user mode ), it should give you a menu with doing an fsck being one of the options
[02:05] <cdm10> neher: sorry, what are you referring to?
[02:05] <neher> Jordan_U, after the updates were finished something froze, the update manager I think, so I had to do a force-quit
[02:05] <tashley> tritium, ironically i use that on others, sad to see it used on me, but i forgot to add that last part. thanks tho
[02:05] <tashley> gotcha, what does that mean in german?
[02:05] <tashley> Jordan_U, you win :)
[02:05] <Jordan_U> tashley: What do I win? :)
[02:06] <tashley> Jordan_U, im still debating on that
[02:07] <neher> cdm10, as I was saying to Jordan_U, after I did a force quit, I shut it down, then this morning the package managers were giving me errors, saying I needed to do something like reconfigure -a or something to that effect (can you guess I am still rather new to linux), then after a restart, I did something with fsck
[02:07] <cdm10> neher: oh, that is relevant
[02:07] <cdm10> neher: open a terminal and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:07] <gotcha> tashley nothing, this is why I chose thbe nick back in a while
[02:08] <neher> cdm10,  nothing really happens
[02:08] <tashley> gotcha, gotcha. (see what i did there? lol)
[02:08] <TheFunkbomb> Does anyone here have experience with PPC?
[02:08] <gotcha> :D
[02:08] <jcapinc> in what directory is all the code stored for user-installed applications?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> TheFunkbomb: Try asking your question and you'll find out :)
[02:08] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, i dropped my PPC install because it didnt have flash support. That was years, ago. How is it now?
[02:08] <tarriop> can anyone tell me how to get java working in 64bit ibex? I installed sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre but sites with java still won't work
[02:09] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, wish I could tell you.  It couldn't find my CD rom.  Fixed that.  Now it can't find my HDD
[02:09] <neher> cdm10, I followed some instructions to get synaptic running again and all that, but the problems with firefox remain
[02:09] <jrib> tarriop: use icedtea
[02:09] <Jordan_U> tarriop: You need to install the browser plugin
[02:09] <TheFunkbomb> I think the HDD is trashed
[02:09] <glenrock> tarriop: sun-java6-plugin
[02:09] <tashley> tarriop, java works fine on my 64bit, install the mozilla plugin
[02:09] <cdm10> neher: can go go to Synaptic , and go to Edit>Fix Broken PAckages?
[02:09] <jrib> glenrock: doesn't exist on amd64
[02:09] <tarriop> ah, thanks guys
[02:09] <glenrock> ahh, thanks jrib
[02:10] <tashley> cdm10, ive never had to fix broken packages before, this is new to me :)
[02:10] <jcapinc> in what directory is all the code stored for user-installed applications?
[02:10] <tashley> jcapinc, /usr/bin
[02:10] <cdm10> tashley: it makes sure all the dependencies are satisfied.
[02:10] <tarriop> jrib, so i should install the icedtea plugin?
[02:10] <tashley> tarriop, icedtea is nice, yes :)
[02:10] <jrib> tashley: yeah, that should work ok
[02:10] <jrib> erm, tarriop
[02:10] <jcapinc> tashley, thats where the executables are, but not all the code
[02:10] <tarriop> great, thakns
[02:11] <tashley> jcapinc, oh i read your q wrong. sorry
[02:11] <jrib> jcapinc: what makes you think such a directory exists?
[02:11] <jrib> !source > jcapinc
[02:11] <jcapinc> tashley, np, thanks for the effort
[02:11] <Marsol0> Is there a way to force a driver to load at startup? Or unload and reload?
[02:11] <TheFunkbomb> I think I'm just gonna drop the mac off at the dump lol
[02:11] <stealth-> ugh. Im trying to log into my kubuntu machine remotely through vnc, but the kde desktop sharing program asks my connecting client for a password, and I dont know what it is :|. Any help?
[02:12] <jcapinc> jrib, the code has to be somewhere, and I figure ubuntu would have one file for it
[02:12] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, i still have mine :(
[02:12] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, I can't get it to run the partitioner
[02:12] <jrib> jcapinc: see ubottu
[02:12] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, weird.
[02:12] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, it asks for the driver and depending on which one I pick, it allows me to do certain things
[02:13] <neher> cdm10, nothing much happened with the "fix broken packages"
[02:13] <tarriop> gedit
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> sometimes I can get to the partitioner but it says the partitions are too small to work with
[02:13] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, what ver?
[02:13] <tarriop> oops
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> g4
[02:13]  * tashley claps for tarriop
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> I picked it out of the dump
[02:13] <fjas> hi
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> I think next weekend it's heading right back to the dump
[02:13] <TheFunkbomb> although, I do have to say the case is awesome.
[02:13] <cdm10> neher: ugh :-/ I really don't know what's going on then.
[02:13] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, still hanging onto mine. Maybe PPC will come through in the end :)
[02:13] <tarriop> jrib, i'm getting this: icedtea-gcjwebplugin: Depends: icedtea6-plugin but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[02:14] <jrib> tarriop: pastebin your sources.list
[02:14] <TheFunkbomb> I'm wondering if I could put a PC ATX board in the mac case
[02:14] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, lol! whats the point?
[02:14] <neher> cdm10, do you know how I can check for problems with my HD?  My instincts tell me that I may have some corrupted sectors or something to that effect
[02:14] <evilGUI> How would I undo these commands? sudo groupadd -g 5000 vmail and sudo useradd -m -u 5000 -g 5000 -s /bin/bash vmail ?
[02:14] <TheFunkbomb> I just think the case is cool tashley
[02:14] <TheFunkbomb> how it flips down
[02:14] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, you could theme out ubuntu to look exactly like OSX
[02:14] <jcapinc> how well do makes work w/ linux?  I figure as good or better than the average PC, mac's based on FreeBSD
[02:15] <tashley> TheFunkbomb, sounds like a neat idea actually :)
[02:15] <TheFunkbomb> tashley, that's a cool idea
[02:15] <joetromondo> hi, how do I mount my ntfs drives and keep them on startup?
[02:15] <tarriop> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m591e7884
[02:15] <TheFunkbomb> Then I can be like one of those mac fanboys except cooler
[02:15] <cdm10> neher: I doubt that's the issue... but I think it has something to do with the command "badblocks." Don't take my word for it, though... see if someone else knows.
[02:15] <TheFunkbomb> and likable
[02:15] <jcapinc> joetromondo, look up the commands to mount the ntfs drive then open your session manager and add that command as a start-up command
[02:15] <chilli0> Hey, im trying to connet to a windblows computer in network would the domain be the Workgroup?
[02:16] <chilli0> its not working im trying every thing
[02:16] <neher> cdm10, yes, something about that came up after I restarted, I was getting some errors about badblocks etc.   Ugh, I hate being so vague and all about this, feeling dumb about it.
[02:16] <lokoabreu> hello.. yesterday i install xubuntu-desktop.. i didnt like it so today i did apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop but seems that is not working for me.. because the log in screen is xubuntu and not ubuntu. how can i remove everything of xubuntu??
[02:17] <cdm10> neher: hey, at this kinda stuff, I'm a total noob, so don't feel too bad :)
[02:18] <tashley> lokoabreu, i dont really know, but it does sound like the GDM for xubuntu is still installed
[02:18] <tashley> lokoabreu, after you login is it gnome or XFCE?
[02:19] <jrib> tarriop: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin      on pastebin
[02:19] <zash> lokoabreu: sounds like you still have the xubuntu theme for gdm
[02:19] <rww> lokoabreu: what were you using before? Ubuntu/GNOME?
[02:19] <tashley> zash, so i was right about the GDM? lol
[02:19] <tarriop> jrib, I just tried it again and it worked... weird?
[02:20] <neher> cdm10, thanks for trying.  ANYONE ELSE does anyone here feel like being a hero for a bit, and helping me get firefox running?   Last night I ran the update manager, downloaded the updates, shut the computer down, and today firefox would not open.
[02:20] <funkyHat> chilli0: there's probably not a domain at all, try setting the workgroup to either workgroup or mshome
[02:20] <zash> tashley: yep
[02:20] <jimi_hendrix> command to add a user to wheel?
[02:20] <jrib> tarriop: jrib's magic touch
[02:20] <chilli0> i tryed ms home
[02:20] <tarriop> jrib, haha
[02:20] <ajehals> neher - what have you tried so far?
[02:20] <tashley> jrib can touch me anytime then
[02:20] <funkyHat> chilli0: or look at my computer properties on the windows machine to see what workgroup it's actually in
[02:20] <jrib> jimi_hendrix: you probably want some other group.  What do you want to do exactly?
[02:20] <jimi_hendrix> add a user to sudoers
[02:21] <chilli0> funkyHat:  would it not work if i wasnt in the same work group , the work group of his is MShome mine is workgroup
[02:21] <rww> jimi_hendrix: sudo usermod -aG admin USERNAMEHERE
[02:21] <jrib> jimi_hendrix: it's the "admin" group you want in ubuntu
[02:21] <jimi_hendrix> ok
[02:22] <funkyHat> chilli0: I'm not sure, it's probably most likely to work if they both have the same workgroup
[02:22] <chilli0> k
[02:22] <chilli0> how do i change the work group on this?
[02:22] <neher> ajehals, I tried reinstalling firefox, I tried fixing broken packages (as earlier I was having some problems with package manager), basically trying to run any firefox related stuff in the terminal gives me a segmentation error
[02:22] <Lando-SpacePimp> Show me your moves!!!
[02:23] <lokoabreu> rww: i was using ubuntu/gnome
[02:23] <lokoabreu> zash: yeah it seems like that how can i remove it?
[02:23] <Lando-SpacePimp> lokoabreu: Show me your moves!!!
[02:23] <Lando-SpacePimp> zash: Reboot
[02:24] <rww> lokoabreu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:24] <kushalone> are we supposed to personally use / ignore commands or kick naggers?
[02:24] <lokoabreu> tashley: after i login is gnome, but xubuntu appears as the login screen
[02:24] <ajehals> neher - what I would do is can you drop the output from the terminal into a pastebin?  also move yor .mozila folder in your home directory somewhere safe for the time being (rename it to .mozilla.old or something... whilst you work on it to ensure your settings/bookmarks remain in one piece
[02:24] <lokoabreu> rww: thanks
[02:24] <bruce89> lokoabreu: you can change the GDM theme
[02:25] <bruce89> lokoabreu: System>Admin.>Login Screen
[02:25] <tashley> lokoabreu, yeah then its definitely the GDM (login theme)
[02:26] <vyadmin> i am trying to setup a local apache web server just so I can develope with drupal.  but I can not figure out how to change and add local virtual hosts.  is there a trick?
[02:27] <neher> ajehals, I am really new to this business, can you kind of go step by step with me, sorry
[02:27] <ajehals> neher - sure.
[02:27] <ajehals> neher - first off open a terminal window.
[02:27] <ogre_> i just get static when audio is supposed to be playing. how can i check to see what the problem is?
[02:27] <Dreamglider> Can anyone tell me how i could salvage some data on a 60Gb NTFS partition where some 40Gb of data had been written on it (The data has been written from the very beginning of the partition out to about 40Gb)
[02:28] <tekteen> ogre_: I had that at one point. It was my sound card :-(
[02:28] <neher> ajehals, yeah, that's open
[02:28] <ajehals> neher - then as your normal user type 'mv .mozilla .mozillaold' - this essentially moves your firefox settings out of harms way, we will move it back once firefox works.
[02:28] <ogre_> tekteen,  ouch, its a laptop
[02:28] <tekteen> Dreamglider: what happened to it?
[02:29] <tekteen> ogre_: my mom's old windows machine had issues. We narrowed it down to the sound card as the prob
[02:29] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i dd'd is and messed up on the soure destination
[02:29] <Dreamglider> source*
[02:29] <Dreamglider> is-it
[02:29] <jeeves> is there a way to import a meeting invite into evoulation from an e-mail that was sent from outlook?
[02:29] <tekteen> Dreamglider: so you used dd to do what?
[02:29] <neher> ajehals, I have moved it already, so I think that's cool
[02:30] <ConstantineXVI> Does Ubuntu have any sort of 'graceful' panic screen (sorta like OS X?)
[02:30] <bruce89> Dreamglider: it's likely to be knackered
[02:30] <sparta00> wii
[02:30] <Aroia> can someone tell a noob how to change file permissions?
[02:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> OS-X panic? But its perfect?
[02:30] <Dreamglider> tekteen, the ntfs is 60Gb after that there was a ext3 of about 15Gb which i managed to save (the Ubuntu installation im on now :) )
[02:30] <usser> Aroia, chmod
[02:30]  * bruce89 has never seen a Ubuntu kernel panic
[02:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> !chmod
[02:30] <tekteen> Aroia: cli?
[02:31] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i saw gone clone a disk
[02:31] <lokoabreu> but it seems that is for people who remove gnome and install xubuntu instead..
[02:31] <Dreamglider> gona*
[02:31] <Aroia> xubuntu
[02:31] <lokoabreu> because its installing gnome-desktop all over again
[02:31] <lokoabreu> i dont know if thats what i need
[02:31] <anatashinu> Hi I need some help changing the controls with xpad, please
[02:31] <ajehals> neher - OK, if you could start firefox from the terminal window with the -safe-mode flag and tell me what you see - if there is a lot of text drop it into a pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) and give me the url of your post
[02:31] <tekteen> Dreamglider: you tried to clone a disk and did what? I am sorry that I do not understand
[02:32] <jeeves> is there a way to import a meeting invite into evoulation from an e-mail that was sent from outlook?
[02:32] <bruce89> jeeves: should be automatic
[02:32] <ajehals> neher - to start firefox in safe mode, simply type firefox -safe-mode
[02:32] <neher> ajehals, I get an error, Segmentation Falut
[02:33] <jeeves> bruce89, I have the e-mails where I've been invited, and it dosen't work.  is there a setting I should check?
[02:33] <bruce89> don't think so
[02:33] <neher> ajehals, segmetation fault*
[02:33] <xavier2677> real quick,  what would cause a usb drive that has been loaded with the usb boot from ubuntu 8.10 to read, error with partition?  second time i have formated and loaded it with it? can anyone help
[02:33] <ajehals> neher - is that literally all the output you are getting? nothing else at all?
[02:33] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i did a dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda to clone a disk right? And messed up on the sda and sdb part and copied 40Gb of a new empty drive to the drive i was gona clone. (is this better, Sry but my native language is not English)
[02:33] <bruce89> jeeves: what does the e-mail look like in evo?
[02:33] <chilli0> why cant i get onto anything? im trying to get into network but  i cant it wont log in i have to correct password
[02:33] <chilli0> but not workin
[02:34] <bruce89> Dreamglider: there's not much you can do with that
[02:34] <anatashinu> Does anybody know how to get xpad to work better? I need to be able to get the cursor to everywhere in the screen as well as change the controls
[02:34] <neher> ajehals, it only says Segmentation fault
[02:34] <jeeves> bruce89, it's an attachment called winmail.dat
[02:34] <bruce89> Dreamglider: you could try photorec
[02:34] <tekteen> Dreamglider: yeah, now I understand
[02:34] <Aroia> can someone explain how to change file permissions so i can move a file?
[02:34] <bruce89> jeeves: must be some new fangled thing
[02:34] <tekteen> Dreamglider: you can not get anything from the first 40GB of the disk
[02:35] <jeeves> bruce89, yea, it came from 2007
[02:35] <chilli0> brb
[02:35] <tekteen> Dreamglider: unlike a normal delete, this actually made your disk zeroed out
[02:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  details?
[02:35] <bruce89> jeeves: another example of non-free formats being bad
[02:35] <jeeves> bruce89, lol, I know, but I'm the "odd ball" in the office, so I have to "conform"
[02:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  use the chmod command properly .. is the normal way
[02:35] <Dreamglider> tekteen, yea i know that, i was thinking about the last 20Gb of the partition whitch should be there
[02:36] <tekteen> Dreamglider: you can use programs like photorec to try to recover data from there
[02:36] <ajehals> neher - OK, you say you already re-installed firefox, so lets not do that again just yet, - do you happen to know if you have 'scim' installed?
[02:36] <Aroia> trying to move an iso file onto a x-ternal HHD but i cant move it cuzs is read only
[02:36] <joetromondo> Hi
[02:36] <joetromondo> how do I list my NTFS partitions
[02:36] <Aroia> im a noob and dont know commands
[02:36] <bruce89> jeeves: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/247396
[02:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  is it READ only or it it just not write accessable by the user.. You could try to copy it over as root.
[02:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  sudo cp whatever /media/whever
[02:37] <ajehals> neher - or rather whether you are using multi language input wih your account?
[02:37] <SnoFox> Woo.
[02:37] <SnoFox> Where are the Kernel headers located in Jaunty?
[02:37] <bruce89> jeeves: install evolution-plugins-experimental, then activate the tnef-attachment plugin
[02:37] <_VIM_> !jaunty | SnoFox
[02:38] <SnoFox> -.-
[02:38] <bruce89> SnoFox: the usual place
[02:38] <SnoFox> bruce89: And I don't know where that is. :p
[02:38] <bruce89> /usr/include/linux
[02:38] <SnoFox> Ooh. Okay.
[02:39] <SnoFox> Thank you. :)
[02:39] <neher> ajehals, I don't know anything about scim
[02:39] <jeeves> bruce89, thanks.  doing it now
[02:39] <Dreamglider> tekteen, i know the NFTS begins at the very beginning of the disk and goes out to 60Gb CHS 7648-254-63 (Where the EXT3 stars at 7649-0-1)
[02:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys
[02:40] <rabbit_ubuntu> Gnight all
[02:40] <bruce89> Dreamglider: you've written 40 GB of stuff on top of your disk, nothing can be done to sort it
[02:40] <jeeves> bruce89, I SERIOUSLY hope this works
[02:40] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: Hi girl
[02:40] <tekteen> Dreamglider: there are some programs online. photorec can find your photos. There are also other programs out there. I do not remember any of them
[02:40] <ajehals> neher - and you are not using any of ubuntu's alternate language support?
[02:41] <neher> ajehals, not that I know about
[02:41] <jeeves> bruce89, nope, still not seeing it
[02:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> Having a slight problem at the moment. Other than the fact that I was just called a girl...(-__ -"). Whenever I play a .mov file in Movie Player, I get no sound
[02:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Ay friend lol
[02:41] <rabbit_ubuntu> Im pretty sure sound should be there, can anyone issue a diagnosis?
[02:41] <bruce89> jeeves: hmm
[02:41] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: ha ha yeah I know your probaby not a girl, but  put that anyway :)
[02:42] <Aroia> Dr_willis_AAQ can i you type it up for me? idk it is supposed to look... file is xpiso and it is going to simpledrive
[02:42] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: nothing wrong with rabbits
[02:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: lol, Im no bunny. Just a Rabbit
[02:42] <rabbit_ubuntu> lol
[02:42] <steveo> hello people
[02:42] <Dreamglider> bruce89, i wish to think otherwise, i wrote 40Gb from the very first sector out to 40Gb, so the remaining 20Gb of data should be there
[02:42] <jeeves> bruce89, normally, I wouldn't care, but this is for work
[02:42] <steveo> can anyone help me out with getting wvm formats working on my ubuntu 8.10? I've read and followed everything about it and still no go
[02:42] <ajehals> neher - OK in your terminal again, I'd like you to type 'mkdir firefox-temp' hit return, and then 'firefox -profile firefox-temp' and tell me what happens.
[02:42] <bruce89> Dreamglider: whatever was on the last 20 GB will still be there
[02:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> Aroia,  i got other things going on.. you know the basics.. sudo cp , its worth learning some bash basics. spoend an 1/2 hr reading some bash tutorials
[02:43] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: ,but you woudn't expect a guy to put a name such as  rabbit_ubuntu as for sound well  have you triend another player?
[02:43] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Download VLC
[02:43] <sebsebseb> steveo: yes  that's easy
[02:43] <steveo> ive downloaded the win32 codecs, libdvd, installed VLC, totem, xine, mplayer and nothing
[02:43] <bruce89> jeeves: you did restart evolution I assume
[02:43] <steveo> still no go :(
[02:43] <sebsebseb> steveo: you can get wmv and  avi and all that propritary stuff suppourt by:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:44] <Dreamglider> tekteen what was that program u mentioned again ?
[02:44] <steveo> sebsebseb : ive done that too but still no go
[02:44] <jeeves> bruce89, yes
[02:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Rabbit vs Bunny. I;d expect bunny to be female. And I have tried VLC but it doesn't support it.
[02:44] <steveo> sebsebseb : i'll try it again gimme a tic
[02:44] <RoastedTiresX> Question - if I have an rsync script to synchronize my home directory on drive A to be synced to drive B, and drive B fails during the night and the next morning I run my rsync script, what happens? Some people are telling me that data would try to get written to my root partition. Other people are telling me it would simply fail the process. What happens if I try to rsync to a drive that is dead and I dont know it?
[02:44] <tekteen> Dreamglider: photorec finds pictures
[02:44] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: which sound codec is it?
[02:44] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Have you restarted?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: what about Banshee?
[02:44] <steveo> sebsebseb : The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required
[02:44] <bruce89> Dreamglider: or anything else
[02:45] <bruce89> sebsebseb: no difference, they both use gstreamer
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Its a video
[02:45] <steveo> rabbit_ubuntu : yep restarted it and all but nothing yet
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !multimedia
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Banshee plays videos?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> heh that one needs updating
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Remove the repos and install them again
[02:45] <Zap> oi
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Then restart
[02:45] <Zap> tem algum brasileiro?
[02:45] <Aroia> can someone tell me how to type up a sudo? im trying to move a file to my x-ternal HHD
[02:45] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: Its Quicktime video
[02:45] <neher> ajehals, Sementation fault
[02:45] <anatashinu> hello? can somebody PLEASE help me with xpad?
[02:46] <bluelightningvid> Hello, does anyone know of a screen recorder for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Zap> i'm brazilian...
[02:46] <Dreamglider> bruce89, come again ?
[02:46] <steveo> rabbit_ubuntu : which ones should i reinstall?
[02:46] <tekteen> Dreamglider: photorec can find these files http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/File_Formats_Recovered_By_PhotoRec
[02:46] <ajehals> neher - Ok, so the problem really is with firefox and not your profile....
[02:46] <Sylphid> could anyone recommend a terminal emulator similar to konsole but lighter on memory
[02:46] <torc> is there a username/password for the liveCD? because that's where I'm stuck at
[02:46] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Its Quicktime
[02:46] <tekteen> Sylphid: for gnome?
[02:46] <bruce89> Dreamglider: photorec recovers most files
[02:46] <JPSman> How do I access my various GTK+ 2 themes?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: ok  mplayer can  do  like everything, once you got the codecs
[02:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:47] <unop> RoastedTiresX, rsync would fail - obviously. data wouldn't get written anywhere else.
[02:47] <tekteen> Sylphid: xterm is a light one
[02:47] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: that's a container
[02:47] <Dreamglider> Allright ill give it a spinn see what i can find
[02:47] <bruce89> steveo: don't install that
[02:47] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Oh...Well I suppose Im not sure how to answer that then :S
[02:47] <neher> ajehals, I googled my symptoms and I think I may have cfound something worthwhile, and it does have to do with scim
[02:47] <Sylphid> tekteen, either gnome or no dependencies
[02:48] <sebsebseb> bruce89: don't install that why?  that's the easiest way to get the propritary stuff
[02:48] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: So I should try getting ALL the codecs from synaptic?
[02:48] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: that package depends on non-free things I don't like
[02:48] <ajehals> neher.  Lets try reinstalling it again: if you could, in your terminal, type 'sudo dpkg --purge firefox' that should remove firefox and all it's configuration files.
[02:48] <Sylphid> tekteen, im looking for an emulator that supports tabs
[02:48] <tekteen> Sylphid: gnome-terminal is for gnome
[02:48] <molly> hi no wht im hAVING TROUBEL DOWNLOADING THUNDERBIRD IS IT COMPATABLE WITH UBUNT?
[02:48] <bruce89> and it makes no difference codec-wise
[02:48] <JPSman> I geuss, my GTK theme engines?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> rabbit_ubuntu: you did ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:48] <Sylphid> multi-aterm didnt look bad but the tabs didnt work well
[02:48] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: lol, Well what would you suggest?
[02:48] <bruce89> !shout | molly
[02:48] <RoastedTiresX> unop - The thing that is scaring me is these people on the forums are telling me that rsync would try to re-route the data to another source, which the first one to try would be my root partition. But my root partition is 20gb and my data is 175gb+, so we'd have a serious problem by maxing out my root partition...
[02:49] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: I believe I had to do that for Vbox at one point
[02:49] <ajehals> neher - there is a problem with scim and firefox - but If you are not using alternate inputs it shouldn't be a problem.  If you think you are, then this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556321 deals with it.
[02:49] <steveo> bruce89 : why not?
[02:49] <torc> is there a username/password for the liveCD? because that's where I'm stuck at
[02:49] <Sylphid> tekteen, gnome-terminal is heavier on memory than knosole
[02:49] <bruce89> steveo: I don't like it
[02:49] <ajehals> s/is/has been
[02:49] <tekteen> Sylphid: I do not know one with tabs
[02:49] <tekteen> molly: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[02:49] <unop> RoastedTiresX, that's nonsense - if rsync fails at writing data to the intended destination, it will just stop writing and return an error status to its parent process.
[02:50] <RoastedTiresX> unop - even if crontab is controlling rsync to start?
[02:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> sebsebseb: And I just did it, and it told me I already have it. So yeah
[02:50] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: I don't know because I don't know what codecs are used
[02:50] <steveo> ok done
[02:50] <steveo> i'll let ya know
[02:50] <steveo> after reboot
[02:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> steveo: Alrighty
[02:50] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: hmm....
[02:51] <unop> RoastedTiresX, this process of writing data to devices is controlled by the kernel - it wouldn't make sense for the kernel to just start writing data to random unintended places, it would make it unusable for most realistic cases (and that is not the case).
[02:51] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: How would I be able to find that out though? Referring to the type of codecs in the video
[02:51] <RoastedTiresX> unop - Not that I don't believe you, but I think it's time I conduct my own little experiment where I unplug my drive and run rsync.
[02:51] <torc> Does the LiveCD have a username/password?
[02:51] <unop> RoastedTiresX, it doesn't matter where rsync is run from. if it fails, it just fails.  no magic happens.
[02:51] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: indeed, that's the snag
[02:51] <Amara_Emerson> strange thing, when using the latest 8.10 live CD, sound works with pulseaudio i guess. Sound preferences show autodetect x3 and alsa. default sound card chosen
[02:52] <sebsebseb> !livecd
[02:52] <sebsebseb> !password
[02:52] <Flannel> torc: the username is ubuntu, the password is blank.  You shouldn't need to log in when you boot it though.  If you do, it may be a bad burn.
[02:52] <RoastedTiresX> unop - thanks for your time. I just have to see this for myself so I can post back to forums to prove them wrong if what I think is going to happen indeed happens
[02:52] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: nothing in the media bit in nautilus's properties thingy
[02:52] <Amara_Emerson> i installed 8.10, updated system which updated pulseaudio and no sound
[02:52] <JPSman> is there some kind of GUI involved with my GTK2+ theme engines that I dont know about?
[02:52] <molly> sorry about yelling did not no caps lock was onI
[02:52] <torc> Flannel: interesting. I was getting some weird Buffer I/O errors and stuff, but it finally got around to the login screen. Should I just re-burn then? at slow speed or something?
[02:53] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: I shall check
[02:53] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Aha! Apple Graphics (SMC)
[02:54] <_jet__> Hi, how can I share my internet connexion with a zaurus over USB ?
[02:54] <r33tfux0r> Greetings!  I'm looking for help on how I can access 16:10 resolutions in 8.10 running Intel865G chipset.  The very first time i booted after installing it did work correctly but ever since all the 16:10 resolutions are gone.  I checked the xorg.conf and it looks practically empty compared to earlier versions of X.  I cant seem to find 915resolution or the other tools I had used in the past either.  Any help would be  greatly appreciate
[02:54] <r33tfux0r> d =)
[02:54] <nightrid3r> molly thunderbird is compatible with ubuntu and can be installed useing synaptic
[02:54] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: no wonder, they'll be no chance
[02:54] <Flannel> torc: When you first boot, choose the verify the integrity of the CD option, see if that works out.
[02:54] <bruce89> some weird anchient nonsense
[02:55] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Yikes
[02:55] <neher> ajehals, I do have scim installed, is that a problem?
[02:55] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Any specific reason for that?
[02:56] <The-Compiler> Hi there, I have a server and want to collect mails and forward them to another mail adress, I installed postfix and put "compiler<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in my /etc/aliases. Now if I do "mail compiler" I get it on my mail adress, but if I send mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it doesn't do anything, any ideas?
[02:56] <MHz128> hello world!
[02:56] <mezy> whats the thing the controls volume leves?
[02:56] <bruce89> rabbit_ubuntu: I've never heard of that codec
[02:56] <bob9281988> hello all
[02:57] <sebsebseb> bob9281988: hey
[02:57] <sebsebseb> MHz128: hello
[02:57] <MHz128> I am looking for an 'everything' disc, something similar to what Fedora has...does Ubuntu have one? ie. kde + gnome + all packages
[02:57] <bob9281988> can i ask a question
[02:57] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: Ahh...Of course not. I have been royally rayped it would seem
[02:57] <MHz128> bob9281988, hurry up
[02:57] <nightrid3r> MHz128 that would be around 5 DVD's
[02:57] <sebsebseb> MHz128: no, but it's pretty easy to install  KDE and  Gnome and XFCE and loads of good programs,  in one installation
[02:57] <lonna> just picked up a new dell studio 17 laptop.  this is NOT an ubuntu edition.  first thing i did was wipe the drive clean and am now running 8.10.  issue is that theres 2 headphones jacks.  plug into one, and sound works for both speakers and headphones, plug into other and there isnt sound for either. ideas?
[02:57] <bruce89> bob9281988: !ask
[02:57] <shawn-p> hello.  I am doing "sudo apt-get install build-essential",  Ubuntu is prompting me to insert the Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon CD. I don't have the CD handy.  Can it somehow just download what it needs?
[02:58] <bob9281988> how would i uninstall mysql apache and php5 form terminal
[02:58] <MHz128> sebsebseb, oh ok. are there 're-spins'?
[02:58] <torc> Flannel: the ISO MD5 matched up. Is there a way I can do the CD integrity check from the grub boot screen? I'm not getting that option right now.
[02:58] <ajehals> neher - it seems to have been in Hardy and Gutsy, I can't find a reference to it having been fixed.  If so, there are instructions on how to sort it out on the page that details the problem.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> MHz128: no you install one,  and then can have the others just like that to
[02:58] <bruce89> shawn-p: Software sources -> untick the CD thing
[02:58] <MHz128> sebsebseb, 10 4, thanks
[02:58] <rabbit_ubuntu> bruce89: I'll try playing it in my virtual machine. See what happens there. Speaking of which, would you OR ANYONE know how to make a folder shared? SO I can access that folder from the vbox?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> MHz128: 10 4  what?
[02:58] <ajehals> shawn-p - remove the line that references the CD from /etc/apt/sources.list of do what bruce89 said...
[02:59] <tpw_rules> hi
[02:59] <sebsebseb> MHz128: only thing is you can't have KDE3 just like that in Intrepid Ibex 8.10  :(   only KDE4 hum
[02:59] <lonna> !oss
[02:59] <lonna> !alsa
[02:59] <bruce89> that's a more interesting way to do it
[02:59] <ajehals> neher - those instructions are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757070 if they seem to appy, give it a go.
[02:59] <bob9281988> how would i uninstall mysql apache and php5 form terminal
[02:59] <Sylphid> tekteen, i think i found my winner  ..... mrxvt
[02:59] <sebsebseb> MHz128: actsaulyl you can have KDE3, but I am not sure about having both KDE3 and 4 in Intrepid Ibex 8.10
[03:00] <shawn-p> bruce89 / ajehals: thank you!
[03:00] <gnrfan> anyone trying out the HP MiniMI GUI in Intrepid? I did.. glassy-bleu theme + backgrounds + font works but I don't know in which package(s) comes the initial fullscreen app launcher..
[03:00] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[03:00] <sebsebseb> MHz128: sudo aptitude install  xubuntu-desktop   for example for XFCE :)
[03:00] <papapep> bob9281988: sudo aptitude remove (or purge, depending what you want) package_name
[03:01] <bob9281988> thak you
[03:01]  * bruce89 is pleased to see aptitude
[03:01] <bob9281988> •papapep• thank you
[03:01] <papapep> ;)
[03:01] <bob9281988> :)
[03:01] <ILoveXP> apt-get is better
[03:01] <RoastedTiresX> unop - you still here?
[03:01] <bruce89> ILoveXP: I wonder why
[03:01] <sebsebseb> !apt
[03:01] <sebsebseb> !aptitude
[03:02] <bob9281988> i looked all over google no luck there
[03:02] <bob9281988> :/
[03:02] <torc> I'm also having a Ethernet issue with another PC. It refuses to connect to the network using a LAN cable. Cable is fine, hardware is fine (both work in windows).
[03:03] <MHz128> sebsebseb, 10 4 means 'ok' in radio slang... hehe
[03:03] <sebsebseb> MHz128: 10 4
[03:05] <tpw_rules> i just upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-23 on my acer aspire one, along with a bunch of other updates, and now it continually spews error messages to the console. in recovery mode it panics because it tried to kill init
[03:06] <tpw_rules> it boots fine with other kernels
[03:06] <H3l1c0pt3r> I have a problem with my wifi, when i use WPA or WPA2 encryption, my connection cuts out frequently and reconnects, if i use WEP, it is fairly stable but the connection is usually less than %50, in hardy heron i used WPA/WPA2 and it was almost always 100% and worked perfect. is this a bug? will it be fixed soon?
[03:06] <tritium> tpw_rules: can you boot successfully into earlier kernels?
[03:07] <neher> ajehals, I just followed those directions, so I'll restart, and get back to you if its still screwy
[03:08] <tpw_rules> tritium: yes
[03:09] <tritium> tpw_rules: ok, good
[03:09] <sam_> I need some help with my iPod. In the middle of updating, my computer hiccuped, causing it to "orphan" 20GB of songs.
[03:09] <_VIM_> ouch
[03:09] <sam_> When I try to fix this using GTKPod or Amarok, both programs freeze
[03:09] <archangelpetro> hi, i have a problem, i'm getting a problem resolving a shared library (libOIS) it says it's not there.. in ld.so.conf i have /usr/local/lib and other 3rd party libraries resolve ok... but.. for some reason it cant find libOIS-1.2.0.so  when i have both that file and libOIS.so (options are -L/usr/local/lib -lOIS), can anyone help?
[03:09] <ajehals> neher - no need to restart, just log out and back in!
[03:10] <sam_> I'm so angry/sad!
[03:10] <bruce89> archangelpetro: ldconfif?
[03:10] <ajehals> Oh.  Mussed him.  What is the obsession with rebooting in between fixing things?
[03:10] <bruce89> *ldconfig
[03:10] <ajehals> *Missed
[03:11] <rabbit_ubuntu> Hey guys, Thanks again for the help sebsebseb and bruce89
[03:11] <rabbit_ubuntu> I appreciate it
[03:11] <archangelpetro> bruce89: what about it?
[03:11] <bruce89> archangelpetro: I assume you've run it
[03:11] <rabbit_ubuntu> Later all
[03:11] <bruce89> night
[03:12] <archangelpetro> bruce89: from ldconfig -v | grep -i ois  ->>  libOIS-1.2.0.so -> libOIS.so
[03:12] <cajun> I'm running Intrepid and I am unable to reawaken my laptop by moving the mouse after the screensaver comes on.  Has anyone else encountered this?
[03:13] <cajun> I have to press a key on the keyboard.  The touchpad gets the same response.
[03:13] <vyadmin> is there a way to do a filemanager as root?
[03:13] <usser> cajun, same here on hardy, mouse movement has no effect, i have to click a button
[03:14] <usser> vyadmin, gksudo nautilus --browser
[03:14] <vyadmin> a gui file manager...
[03:14] <archangelpetro> bruce89: as far as i can tell, it's all there?  libOIS-1.2.0.so -> libOIS.so
[03:14] <bruce89> archangelpetro: does ldd on the program that links to it say anything interesting
[03:14] <tpw_rules> tritium: if it helps its running 8.04, because of the wireless issue in 8.10
[03:14] <ideamonk> Has any one tried installing Mooshak - http://mooshak.dcc.fc.up.pt/ Over Ubuntu ? I'm trying to install it over Ubuntu 8.10, but I've failed to do so the whole day yesterday - http://ideamonk.blogspot.com/search/label/mooshak
[03:15] <archangelpetro> yea, when i ldd the binary file, it says libOIS-1.2.0.so not found
[03:15] <cajun> i don't remember if I had that problem on hardy.  has anyone heard of a fix?
[03:15] <nightrid3r> vyadmin mc might be usefull
[03:15] <archangelpetro> oh wait
[03:15] <_VIM_> nightrid3r: :)
[03:15] <archangelpetro> bruce89: it seems to work now.
[03:15] <linux206830> anyone know how to pause a ./configure during run?
[03:15] <bruce89> control + z
[03:15] <linux206830> that sleeps it, how do i undo sleep?
[03:15] <ideamonk> press the pause button maybe
[03:15] <_dean_> ^Z (ctrl-z)
[03:15] <_dean_> fg
[03:15] <bruce89> fg
[03:16] <H3l1c0pt3r> I have a problem with my wifi, when i use WPA or WPA2 encryption, my connection cuts out frequently and reconnects, if i use WEP, it is fairly stable but the connection is usually less than %50, in hardy heron i used WPA/WPA2 and it was almost always 100% and worked perfect. is this a bug? will it be fixed soon?
[03:16] <bruce89> out of interest, what is Control+Z called?
[03:16] <linux206830> bruce89: thank you, i think sleep
[03:16] <_dean_> suspend
[03:16] <linux206830> _dean_: ok, thanks, learn something everyday, goodbye
[03:16] <bruce89> thanks
[03:17] <_dean_> it sends SIGTSTP == tty stop
[03:17] <Zeroyez> i just spent 3 hours doing a web install and i accidentally skipped user creation
[03:18] <Zeroyez> do i have to reinstal?
[03:18] <_dean_> zeroyez: log in as root and type useradd
[03:19] <Zeroyez> that's the problem
[03:19] <Zeroyez> it made root, but didn't ask me to enter a password
[03:19] <_dean_> zeroyez: you don't have physical access so you can enter single user mode
[03:20] <TimewornShadow> Is it possible to install ubunto onto a 40 GB external HD and run it from there?
[03:20] <_dean_> zeroyez: the root account is 'locked' so if you login in single usermode there is no password
[03:20] <Delvien> TimewornShadow: depends if the PC you have supports USB boot
[03:20] <Delvien> TimewornShadow: it is possible though
[03:20] <TimewornShadow> ok
[03:20] <Zeroyez> i chose "allow root login" on the install
[03:20] <vyadmin> I am looking for a MYSQL gui tool... any sugestions?
[03:21] <bruce89> phpmyadmin if you can spare apache too
[03:21] <_dean_> zeroyez: what happens if you enter single user mode then
[03:21] <_dean_> zeroyez: does it ask for a password
[03:21] <nightrid3r> vyadmin webmin
[03:21] <vyadmin> ahh I would like to use something other than that
[03:21] <Zeroyez> dunno i'll see
[03:22] <gnrfan> googling around I see the home screen app I'm looking for is named "harbour launcher" it seems
[03:22] <_dean_> what is 'web install' of ubuntu anyway?
[03:23] <nightrid3r> _dean_ its actualy a netinstall
[03:23] <torc> Does anyone have an idea why I can boot to a LiveCD of 64bit on my PC but not to a 32 bit? and after I get to it, it try's to connect to the internet, but simply tgries for a while and disconnects?
[03:23] <_VIM_> i think the alternative cd has a "Web install"
[03:23] <gnrfan> vyadmin: In the repos you have mysql-navigator, mysql-admin and mysql-query-browser.. I use none to be sincere
[03:24] <_dean_> Do you mean that it is the minimal cd which downloads files from the Internet?
[03:25] <Zeroyez> alright, i booted into recovery mode and used drop to root shell
[03:25] <Zeroyez> then used passwd
[03:25] <nightrid3r> _dean_ yes
[03:25] <_dean_> So you set the root's password now
[03:25] <Loggia> Hello! Is PostgreSQL compatible with Ubuntu?
[03:25] <_dean_> So then now create a user
[03:25] <nightrid3r> Loggia yes
[03:26] <Loggia> sudo apt-get install PostgreSQL rite
[03:26] <bruce89> !tab
[03:26] <Zeroyez> nah i login as root always, i ain't a security believer
[03:26] <_dean_> adduser works for this
[03:26] <meoblast001> how do i make swfdec my default flash player in mozilla?
[03:27] <Flannel> _dean_: Please don't recommend people set a root password here.
[03:27] <usser> Zeroyez, you will be, once you screw up once or twice :)
[03:27] <torc> Does anyone have an idea why I can boot to a LiveCD of 64bit on my PC but not to a 32 bit? and after I get to it, it try's to connect to the internet, but simply tgries for a while and disconnects?
[03:27] <Flannel> Loggia: Of course.
[03:27] <Zeroyez> funny every time someone says "i login as root", everyone in a freenode channel is amazed and tell me to stop lol
[03:27] <bruce89> meoblast001: sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[03:27] <Zeroyez> or whoever says it
[03:27] <nightrid3r> torc bad cd maybe?
[03:27] <gnrfan> uhm.. no sources for harbour launcher available... it's a restricted package
[03:27] <Flannel> Zeroyez: You need to choose "recovery console" at your GRUB prompt.  Then you can use useradd to create a user, and useradd to add that user to the admin group.
[03:27] <Aroia> can someone help me? i dont know how to move a file onto my x-ternal HHD and i need to know if i give you the file name and where i want it to go if u can type it up for me
[03:28] <Zeroyez> yeah i already did, thanks for the help guys
[03:28] <meoblast001> bruce89: thanks
[03:28] <Loggia> thanks :)
[03:28] <_dean_> Zeroyez: of course on Ubuntu it is usual to have root locked and use sudo
[03:28] <torc> nightrid3r: quite possibly, although once I installed the 64 bit version, it worked fine but still had the ethernet issue, which I was finding a lot of results for on the forums and such but no solutions.
[03:28] <Dreamglider> Aroia, copy,n'paste  :)
[03:28] <sebsebseb> !root
[03:28] <nightrid3r> Aroia cp source.file /path/to/destination/
[03:29] <silentContender> Can someone help me with login woes?  KDM and console login keeps kicking me out.
[03:29] <Crshman> I have an MFC420cn that's connected via lan and it prints VERY slow (like 2 minutes per page) any ideas?
[03:29] <meoblast001> bruce89: there is a blank 0px gap
[03:29] <_dean_> Aroia: cp file directory to copy
[03:29] <_dean_> Aroia: or mv file directory to move
[03:29] <Zeroyez> well, i'm so used to debian i simply must turn my ubuntu install into a super up-to-date debian style install heh
[03:29] <bruce89> meoblast001: where?
[03:29] <meoblast001> bruce89: on youtube
[03:29] <meoblast001> the player isnt there
[03:30] <meoblast001> there is no "download adobe flash" pront
[03:30] <_dean_> Aroia: see 'man cp' and 'man mv'
[03:30] <bruce89> that's swfdec for you
[03:30] <meoblast001> it's just not there
[03:30] <_dean_> !man
[03:30] <Aroia> i cant... i dont have the permission
[03:30] <torc> Crshman: I would guess a slow print would be due to the printer
[03:30] <bruce89> have you got the non-free one installed too?
[03:30] <_dean_> Aroia: do it with sudo or remount with different commands
[03:30] <nightrid3r> Aroia sudo cp source.file /path/to/destination/
[03:30] <_dean_> !sudo
[03:30] <aphixe> can someone help me figure out orca.. i want it to read a pdf.. and it would be nice if it could highlight words.. it doesnt have to be a pdf reader i can convert stuff to a txt file..
[03:30] <jeeves> is there a channel for evoulation?  I'm trying to get the e-mail client to import meeting requests sent from outlook 2007
[03:31] <bruce89> jeeves: #evolution on gimpnet
[03:31] <torc> How do I burn at slower speeds than 10x? or would it be better to just install from a USB drive? I'm using CD-RWs
[03:31] <silentContender> My login keeps kicking me out, but the auth.log does not log me attempting to log in.
[03:31] <jeeves> bruce89, thanks.  this thing is pissing me off
[03:31] <Aroia> nightrid3r will you type it up so i can just copy and paste it? file i want to move is xpiso and its on my desktop to my x-ternal HHD called simpledrive
[03:31] <penguincentral> hi.  out of the following three file systems, what would you use and why: ext2, ext3, reiserfs
[03:31]  * penguincentral is formatting a new hard drive
[03:31] <jeeves> bruce89, what's the server address?
[03:31] <meoblast001> bruce89: why is the + still on the non-free plugin?
[03:32] <bruce89> jeeves: irc.gimp.org
[03:32] <jeeves> bruce89, nm, found it.  thanks
[03:32] <_dean_> Aroia: sudo mv ~/Desktop/xpiso /media/simpledrive
[03:32] <bruce89> meoblast001: you need to change it to swfdec
[03:33] <nightrid3r> Aroia sudo cp xpiso /media/simpledrive <--- but first check if /media/simpledrive exists
[03:33] <meoblast001> bruce89: i did.. that moved the * but not the +
[03:33] <meoblast001> http://rafb.net/p/k1xxxz55.html
[03:34] <tritium> tpw_rules: which "wireless issue" in 8.10?
[03:34] <_dean_> !rofl
[03:34] <ammagendut> hi morning all
[03:35] <ammagendut> does ubuntu have other browser ?
[03:35] <bruce89> meoblast001: not sure what that means
[03:35] <_dean_> !ammagendut: yes
[03:35] <cdm10> ammagendut: check out Add/Remove Programs, see what you can finde. There are some others.
[03:35] <rambo3> is there a way to repair ntfs from ubuntu ?
[03:35] <Aroia> it says it does not exist
[03:35] <_dean_> rambo3: yes
[03:36] <rambo3> _dean_, explain
[03:36] <bruce89> fsck
[03:36] <silentContender> !login
[03:36] <silentContender> !kdm
[03:36] <silentContender> !gdm
[03:36] <bruce89> !fsck
[03:36] <tritium> ammagendut: also, search in the Synaptic Package Manager
[03:36] <rambo3> Bruce, standard fsck doesnt have ntfs support
[03:36] <tpw_rules> tritium: on an acer aspire one, i couldnt get the drivers to work and the ubuntu wiki advised installing 8.04
[03:36] <tritium> silentContender: you can query ubottu in private, you know...
[03:36] <rambo3> Bruce89, standard fsck doesnt have ntfs support
[03:36] <_dean_> ntfsresize -fi /dev/hdXY
[03:37] <bruce89> so I hear
[03:37] <bruce89> !tab
[03:37] <silentContender> tripps, sorry
[03:37] <rambo3> !info ntfsresize
[03:37] <silentContender> tritium, sorry
[03:37] <_dean_> it is in ntfstools
[03:37] <_dean_> sorry ntfs-progs
[03:37] <Aroia> nightrid3r: it says it does not exist but im in the file
[03:37] <_dean_> !ntfs-progs
[03:37] <jeeves> bruce89, any other ideas?  I can't get anyone to reply in that channel
[03:37] <_dean_> !info ntfs-progs
[03:37] <bruce89> jeeves: nope
[03:38] <jeeves> bruce89, damn
[03:38] <_dean_> !info ntfsprogs
[03:38] <_dean_> ntfsprogs with no hyphen
[03:38] <_VIM_> !msgthebot | a few of you...
[03:38] <rambo3> !find ntfs-progs
[03:38] <nightrid3r> Aroia then simpledrive is mounted somewhere else
[03:39] <bruce89> jeeves: gimpnet is usually quiet
[03:39] <rambo3> !find ntfsresize
[03:39] <jeeves> bruce89, hummm
[03:39] <nightrid3r> Aroia type mount to see where it is mounted
[03:39] <centaurus> hi
[03:39] <centaurus> how are you
[03:40] <cumanzor> Anyone with Mediatomb experience?
[03:40] <_dean_> !rtfm | your mom
[03:40] <_dean_> !man
[03:40] <bruce89> jeeves: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/22051
[03:40] <tritium> silentContender: no worries
 ntfsresize -fi /dev/hdXY , I doubt it,
[03:41] <JPSman> To quote my friend from last night "The kernel has his secret recipe and I dont want to know what it is"
[03:42] <aragilar1> Does anyone know how to auto-detect a specific wired network with NetworkManager?
[03:42] <sam_> where is the default vimrc?
[03:43] <mgolisch> sam_: /etc/vim/vimrc ?
[03:43] <andrewfree> Is there a command to print hardware specs like cpu and ram, graphics and such
[03:43] <_dean_> sam_ in /etc/vim
[03:43] <_dean_> andrewfree: yes
[03:43] <_dean_> andrewfree: but not the UNIX yes command
[03:43] <andrewfree> _dean_: care to share?
[03:43] <nightrid3r> andrewfree lshw
[03:43] <mgolisch> lshw?
[03:43] <_dean_> andrewfree: lshw
[03:44] <_VIM_> sam_:  mines at /usr/share/vim/vim71/vimrc_example.vim
[03:44] <kanzak> Hello! I have trouble installing a software...
[03:44] <sam_> mgolisch, _dean_ , thx, I find a /etc/vim/vimrc, but when I modify some setting, It can't work.
[03:44] <_VIM_> sam_:  but of course (look at my nick) I have every single VIM package you can imagine, so heh, i can paste mine if need be
[03:44] <pupk> hi
[03:45] <JPSman> So i want to start writing code and a GUI in ubuntu linux, is the primary GUI API gnome/GTK or what?    Should I learn GTK or wxwidgets?
[03:45] <_dean_> kanzak: use the apt-get for t3h win
[03:45] <kanzak> I am trying to install gnuworld and it won't work...
[03:45] <roy_hobbs> Hey how can I reconfigure PAM?  I someone screwed it up so that I only need to enter a username to login.  Passwords are not required (including root).
[03:45] <sam_> I must start vim with paramter "vim -u /etc/vim/vimrc"
[03:45] <sam_> ?
[03:45] <roy_hobbs> s/someone/somehow
[03:45] <kanzak> _dean_: i tried and apt-get has no gnuworld.
[03:45] <bruce89> JPSman: GTK+ is what GNOME and Xfce use
[03:45] <oberdada> greetings. i would like to connect 2 pc's both using ubuntu with a crossover cable. can anyone explain how to do it as if for a 4 year old?
[03:45] <ghoti> sam: or copy the rc file to ~/.vimrc
[03:45] <_VIM_> what ghoti said
[03:45] <_dean_> kanzak: try google to seef if you can find an rpm and convert it with alien
[03:46] <sebsebseb> oberdada: 4 year olds don't do that kind of thing yet
[03:46] <_dean_> kanzak: if not then compile from source
[03:46] <oberdada> i mean, how do i setup the network so that i can share files and stuff
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !samba
[03:46] <sebsebseb> whoops
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !scp
[03:46] <bruce89> !ssh
[03:46] <_dean_> !ftp
[03:46] <_dean_> !FTPd
[03:46] <_dean_> !sftp
[03:47] <keres> is it 'sudo chmod 777 ~/folder' to set ownership to nobody?
[03:47] <sancho21> I have a relationship of 3 models: Book.Author.Mother.  How to use query builder to search "Search a book where it's author's mother's name is Cherry?
[03:47] <kanzak> _dean_: gnuworld is a IRC services software...
[03:47] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  keres
[03:47] <kanzak> I put everything it needed to configure and the make crashes.
[03:47] <bruce89> keres: someone has to own everything
[03:47] <oberdada> my knowledge of networking is 0
[03:47] <oberdada> can anyone help¡
[03:48] <keres> bruce89: i mean, set read/write to a folder
[03:48] <sebsebseb> oberdada: depends on what you want to do
[03:48] <wolter> i'm having file sharing problems with a mac (from an ubuntu machine, obviously)
[03:48] <kanzak> theres a redhat package
[03:48] <sebsebseb> wolter: oh didn't know you had a Mac
[03:48] <oberdada> just connect 2 pc's together with a crossover cable
[03:48] <_dean_> bruce89: there is a nobody user actually
[03:48] <wolter> sebsebseb, i dont.. im in a friend's house.
[03:48] <_dean_> bruce89: so sudo chown nobody would work
[03:48] <ghoti> SCP should work fine mac to linux; SSH is SSH after all
[03:48] <sebsebseb> wolter: ah right
[03:48] <bruce89> _dean_: I knew it'd be wrong
[03:48] <silentContender> Can someone explain why my auth.log does not log my login activity
[03:48] <oberdada> and browse through files from one pc to the other
[03:48] <frenchy> can anyone explain to me why apt-get stopped asking me to choose y or n when installing something, now it just does it without asking
[03:49] <bruce89> *I'd
[03:49] <Stingray> Hey all from Turkey.
[03:49] <ghoti> frenchy: there might be an alias mapping 'apt-get' to 'apt-get -y'.  type 'alias' to see if that's it.
[03:49] <oberdada> that's what i want to do. is that possible or not?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Stingray
[03:49] <jrib> frenchy: it only asks you if there are deps to install
[03:49] <Bruce> i have ubuntu desktop, where can i change the treble and bass on the sound card?
[03:49] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that's a bit mean
[03:50] <keres> dang, i forgot how to rm a directory.
[03:50] <Tomu> buenaaaaaaaaaaas
[03:50] <keres> rm ~/folder/*?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> bruce89: maybe that was the idea :D
[03:50] <frenchy> jrib: im not 100% sure but i think the last think i installed had deps
[03:50] <_dean_> keres: rm -rf
[03:50] <frenchy> jrib: ill check something else though
[03:50] <bruce89> rm -fr /blah
[03:50] <keres> _dean_: thats it, thanks
[03:50] <ghoti> rm -rf is angerous
[03:50] <joaogerardo> alguém aí sabe a solução de um problema com gráficos NVidia, mx100/200
[03:50] <nightrid3r> wolter netatalk or samba
[03:50] <ghoti> I'd advise rmdir /path/to/directory instead
[03:50] <joaogerardo> geforce2?
[03:50] <bruce89> I know, it should be rm -fr
[03:50] <wolter> nightrid3r, samba
[03:51] <crdlb> it's safer than rm with * though
[03:51] <sancho21> Ups, wrong channel
[03:51] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Stingray
[03:51] <ghoti> rmdir is safer-er as it only removes empty directories
[03:51] <kanzak> Thanks anyways
[03:51] <wolter> nightrid3r, well, the mac just detects my samba server (plus a vnc server)
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Stingray: what some help with something?
[03:51] <_dean_> kruce89: aren't they the exact same thing just with recurse and force in a different order
[03:51] <_dean_> s/kruce89/bruce89/g
[03:51] <marine1> sebsebseb, what up kid back agian
[03:51] <bruce89> _dean_: yes, but I like alphabetical order
[03:52] <sebsebseb> marine1: who ware you?
[03:52] <Stingray> i can only Look:P
[03:52] <joaogerardo> anyone knows how to solve a ubuntu problem with nvidia graphic card mx100/200 geforce2?
[03:52] <wolter> nightrid3r, at first all the songs copy, but there is something in my computer that kills the transfer and deletes everything..
[03:52] <oberdada> how do i setup a network in ubuntu with 2 pc's? can i just plug in the crossover cable on both pc's?
[03:52] <oberdada> help plese
[03:52] <Dreamglider> Testdisk is Dreamglider new best friend :)
[03:52] <nightrid3r> wolter hmmm never had a problem like that before
[03:52] <marine1> sebsebseb, good i have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:52] <jeeves> bruce89, that's a no go.  I can't belive this is such a pain
[03:53] <wolter> nightrid3r, also, my ftp server is weird. It changed password somehow..
[03:53] <sebsebseb> marine1: ok  I don't know
[03:53] <bruce89> it is a non-free format you see
[03:53] <wolter> nightrid3r, how can I see it?
[03:53] <marine1> sebsebseb, ok you dn't know what
[03:53] <rambo3> !find ntfsck
[03:53] <nightrid3r> wolter an ftp server will never change passwords
[03:54] <ghoti> usually FTP passwords are the same as the user passwords
[03:54] <_dean_> it is also in ntfstools
[03:54] <wolter> nightrid3r, then i guess someone changed it for me.. its normally the same password as my login account, right?
[03:54] <marine1> I have a issue with acpi after i reflashed my bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:54] <oberdada> how do i get two ubuntu pc's connected with a crossover cable?
[03:54] <ghoti> so if you changed your login password, your FTP password would have changed as well
[03:54] <nightrid3r> wolter yes
[03:54] <wolter> ghoti, i didn't.
[03:54] <bruce89> Dreamglider: just as well
[03:54] <wolter> nightrid3r, hm..
[03:55] <frenchy> jrib: thanks you are right! i guess i should pay more attention
[03:55] <nightrid3r> !info netatalk
[03:55] <braddcadd> oberdada, i think that is called "ad hoc"
[03:55] <Dreamglider> bruce89,  ?
[03:55] <marine1> sebsebseb, i have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:55] <bruce89> Dreamglider: I assume testdisk worked
[03:55] <wolter> nightrid3r, i'm installing netatalk...
[03:56] <sebsebseb> marine1: already told you that I can't help you
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !
[03:56] <Dreamglider> bruce89, it's copying right now, best part is, that "Documents and settings" seems to be all there :)
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !guru
[03:56] <nightrid3r> wolter i have never used a mac so i can't help you with the netatalk
[03:56] <oberdada> i plug in the cable on both pc's- nothing happens, no network. how do i get the pc's "talking" in ubuntu?
[03:56] <Dreamglider> bruce89, it's copying right now, best part is, that "Documents and settings" seems to be all there :)
[03:57] <oberdada> just answer the question please
[03:57] <nightrid3r> oberdada you have to use static ip's on both pc's
[03:57] <bruce89> Dreamglider: no need to repeast yourself
[03:57] <ghoti> Oberdata: you need to set the computers' IP addresses so that they know how to talk to each other, for starters.
[03:57] <bruce89> Dreamglider: but that is lucky
[03:57] <marine1> need  help I have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:57] <oberdada> ok. how do i go about using static ip's?
[03:57] <oberdada> how and where do i set the ip's
[03:57] <Dreamglider> bruce89, Sorru i must have pressed up key i saw the line in xchat and didnt think i had pressed enter.
[03:58] <oberdada> and to what do i set the ip's?
[03:58] <C-S-B> oberdada, first id get rid of network manager if your using static ips
[03:58] <bruce89> Dreamglider: ah,
[03:58] <bruce89> thanks for telling me of a feature
[03:58] <bruce89> !repeat | oberdada
[03:59] <marine1>  i have a issue with acpi after i reflashed y bios due to upgrading cpu my system doesn't shut down properly anymore
[03:59] <C-S-B> oberdada, what is your ips subnet ?
[03:59] <C-S-B> normally 192.168.1.*
[03:59] <oberdada> C-S-B - i dont know
[03:59] <oberdada> how/where do i look that up?
[03:59] <C-S-B> then you need to know your  router ip. for your gateway
[03:59] <C-S-B> try ifconfig
[03:59] <Dreamglider> bruce89, lets say i get everything of the partition, could i copy it to a new partition and boot it?
[04:00] <bruce89> Dreamglider: no reason why not, but not all files are going to be there
[04:00] <Out_Cold> does anyone here use Luks encryption??
[04:00] <nightrid3r> C-S-B he doesn't have a router
[04:00] <oberdada> this?: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  direcciónHW 00:13:20:78:7a:6d
[04:00] <C-S-B> switch?
[04:00] <nightrid3r> C-S-B croosover cable between 2 pc
[04:00] <wolter> can i give more than 1 uid to a partition in fstab?
[04:00] <C-S-B> cheers nightrid3r
[04:01] <pHreaksYcle> can someone explain in regular english for me how public keys work?
[04:01] <C-S-B> oberdada,  for your setup, i would do the following
[04:01] <pHreaksYcle> like the idea behind them, and then how i find mine and give it to someone??
[04:01] <bruce89> pHreaksYcle: yikes
[04:01] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: yeah i know
[04:01] <bruce89> you need to generate your key
[04:01] <bruce89> then upload the public part to a keyserver
[04:01] <ghoti> pHreaksYcle: to generage keys, use ssh-keygen
[04:01] <bruce89> or indeed seahorse for a GUI way
[04:02] <ghoti> your public keys will be in ~/.ssh/ wiht a .pub extension
[04:02] <_VIM_> seahorse is nice
[04:02] <nightrid3r> pHreaksYcle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
[04:02] <C-S-B> set PC one to <IP_ADDRESS>, subnet <IP_ADDRESS>, GW <IP_ADDRESS>. PC two to <IP_ADDRESS> subnet <IP_ADDRESS> GW <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:02] <pHreaksYcle> seahorse
[04:02] <pHreaksYcle> okay
[04:02]  * bruce89 finds encryption magic
[04:02] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: so everytime i run the keygen, it will put a new one into that folder??
[04:02] <bruce89> you only do it one
[04:02] <oberdada> ok C-S-B. where do i do the setting? also, could u private msg please? cos its hard to read
[04:02] <bruce89> as long as you keep a hold of it
[04:03] <ghoti> you should only need to run it once
[04:03] <ghoti> but if you need more than one keypair
[04:03] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: ghoti: okay.
[04:03] <ghoti> it asks you for the name for your keay when you run it
[04:03]  * bruce89 is on to my 4th key, thanks to not backing up
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: okay, so if i have my key generated, and i have my buddy put this key into his seahorse
[04:04] <TaG^> what is the command to see what driver i have install on wlan0?
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: can we then SSH together?
[04:04] <bruce89> pHreaksYcle: ssh is something else
[04:04] <bruce89> it needs ssh keys
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> christ
[04:04] <pHreaksYcle> well
[04:04] <ghoti> once your keys are generated, copy the contents of your .pub keyfile into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the box you are SSHing into
[04:05] <tech0007> TaG^: dmesg | grep wlan0
[04:05] <pHreaksYcle> if it helps, im trying to VNC over SSH
[04:05] <ghoti> and you will be able to SSH in without using your password.
[04:05] <bruce89> seahorse can do ssh key generation and setup too
[04:05] <john_> hey does anyone if ubuntu will change for DST
[04:05] <crdlb> john_: it will
[04:06] <sebsebseb> DST??????
[04:06] <sebsebseb> what's DST?
[04:06] <crdlb> john_: it's encoded in your timezone
[04:06] <bruce89> john_: !info tzdata
[04:06] <mezy> whats the thing the controls volume levels?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> !sound
[04:06] <ghoti> john_: If you have it set to a timezone that observes DST, it should adjust for you
[04:06] <sebsebseb> ah yes
[04:06] <sebsebseb> dayligh savings time
[04:06] <sebsebseb> of course
[04:06] <john_> thanks crdlb, Bruce ghoti
[04:06] <bruce89> !tab
[04:06]  * ghoti tips his cap
[04:07] <Zlogger> i love tab
[04:08] <ghoti> So do I. The key, not the soft drink.
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> ghoti: is seahorse "Authorizations" in System->Admin in Ubuntu??
[04:08] <bruce89> no
[04:08] <bruce89> Applications>Accessories>Seahorse
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: i dont have it
[04:08] <bruce89> sorry, passwords and encryption keys
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> bruce89: got it
[04:09] <bruce89> 3FA30F0A
[04:09] <mezy> ello?
[04:12] <unop> RoastedTiresX, i just got your PM
[04:13] <wolter> how do i make a ssh share on my computer?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> !ssh
[04:13] <ghoti> wolter: what do you mean by 'SSH share'?
[04:14] <unop> RoastedTiresX, in your test - your disk wasn't mounted and sure enough, rsync will write to the directory that you assumed was the mount point - but that's not the same as a disk failing half-way through a rsync,
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, i really don't know.. I just know that mac, linux and windows can easily share files via ssh
[04:14] <ghoti> Very true
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, how do I share then?
[04:14] <ghoti> do you have SSH servers on each of the computers you wish to access files on?
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, a gui would be awesome.
[04:14] <nottaken> hi everyone. I'm about to do a clean install of ubuntu. I've been using gnome for a long time but am considering going kubuntu instead. as there are several things about gnome which bug me or things i think it needs
[04:14] <wolter> ghoti, i want to make a one on my machine so i can, from a mac, copy files to it.
[04:14] <ghoti> What OS do you wish to use a GUI with?
[04:15] <nottaken> how does KDE stack up against gnome? (NOTE: hope this doesn't turn into a flame war)
[04:15] <usser> nottaken, you'll find that kde will bug you even more, there's alot of things that just dont work right with kde4
[04:15] <wolter> ghoti, ubuntu
[04:15] <unop> wolter, File/Connect To Server - choose SSH there
[04:15] <ghoti> so you want oto access files on a Ubuntu box from a mac, correct?
[04:15]  * ghoti points at what unop said
[04:15] <nottaken> does kde have the same graphics support?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> nottaken: Yes, they both use Xorg
[04:16] <bruce89> yes
[04:16] <nottaken> ok
[04:16] <wolter> unop, i need to make a share on my computer and connect to it from a mac.
[04:16] <wolter> ghoti, correct.
[04:16] <unop> wolter, through ssh right?  just install the openssh-server package
[04:16] <ghoti> wolter: apt-get install openssh-server if you haven't already
[04:17] <Jordan_U> wolter: To "make a share" just install openssh-server, to access it from the mac use sshfs
[04:17] <xxx> hello
[04:17] <ghoti> there's no 'making a share' with SSH/scp
[04:17] <unop> wolter, i'm not sure how you mount a remote share on Mac OS X .. but I guess there's a mac channel somewhere if you don't know how.
[04:17] <sebsebseb> xxx: hi
[04:17] <wolter> Jordan_U, yeah but how do I connect to my share? I can't install anything on the mac, its not mine.
[04:17] <sebsebseb> wolter: yeah #Mac
[04:17] <Guest14876> whats program can i use to open a .bin file? i got .iso mounted with giso and gmount but i need to view the videos insde the .bin
[04:18] <JONT> ce_imut
[04:18] <unop> wolter, you shouldn't need to install anything on the Mac, i don't think.  just figure out how to use ssh on it.
[04:18] <wolter> Ok.
[04:18] <Jordan_U> wolter: If you can't install anything on the mac then you need to use the scp command to copy files, or use samba instead of ssh
[04:18] <tech0007> Guest14876: if its a video, mplayer can
[04:20] <Blade> Hey are there some of you there knows how you can make your pidgin look cool ?
[04:21] <bruce89> you can't
[04:22] <TaG^> Hi, when I type sudo apt-get install build-essential I ge this error msg E: Couldn't Find Package build-essential
[04:22] <unop> TaG^,  sudo apt-get update  # first
[04:22] <disappearedng> hey how do I initiate a sleep on command?
[04:23] <inteliwasp> so, i managed to score a second video card and have an extra monitor around... and to no surprise, after installing the nvidia drivers, xorg did not like the setup, said no screens, can someone point me to a nice guide to reset up xorg with 2 cards and 2 monitors?
[04:23] <disappearedng> sudo shutdown -s it not it
[04:23] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: there is also this graphical program you will find useful I expect    gshutdown
[04:23] <Othor> I set up something so that when i move my mouse to the upper left hand corner of the screen it show the desktop, I need to turn that off but can't remember where i turn that on at. anyone have any ideas where i should check?
[04:24] <Guest14876> tech0007: its not a video
[04:24] <disappearedng> is there a suspend though for command line
[04:24] <jrib> Othor: compiz or brightside
[04:24] <Bigjalowos> hello how do i mount a .bin file ?
[04:24] <jrib> disappearedng: try: pm-<TAB>
[04:24] <jrib> !iso | Bigjalowos
[04:24] <Othor> jrib: i have compiz installed... do you know what plug in to check?
[04:24] <disappearedng> what?
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> jrib, : am talking about bin
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> not iso
[04:25] <jrib> Othor: no, check its preferences
[04:25] <bruce89> !bin
[04:25] <jrib> Bigjalowos: me too
[04:25] <tech0007> Bigjalowos: what's that bin?
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> its a torrent file.. with .bin and iso of courses
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> cisco courses
[04:25] <jrib> Bigjalowos: if you click the link ubottu gave you, it should tell you about bchunk (in the repositories)
[04:25] <Bigjalowos> aah i was tryign to avoid converting
[04:25] <Othor> jrib: i have been looking though it for ever now and can't seem to find it...lol
[04:26] <jrib> disappearedng: what do you mean by "suspend"?
[04:26] <jrib> Othor: it's pretty obvious in simple-ccsm
[04:27] <datapolitical> is it possible to install ubuntu if your machine refuses to boot from a CD?
[04:27] <Othor> jrib:  thanks i'll try that i have been looking in CompizConfig Setting Manager
[04:27] <jrib> !install | datapolitical
[04:28] <brandon_thomson>  suddenly i have a lot of disk io, how can i tell what process is responsible?
[04:28] <jrib> brandon_thomson: iotop would be one way
[04:28] <Dreamglider> bruce89, i seem to be gettin everything of the partition, im copying one folder at a time with testdisk to a ext3 partition, after im done(If i get that far) can i copy everything to a ntfs and boot it ?
[04:29] <Othor> jrib:  that worked thanks for the help!
[04:29] <bruce89> Dreamglider: depends what you mean by "boot it"
[04:29] <brandon_thomson> jrib: perfect! thanks
[04:29] <Dreamglider> bruce89, starr windowsXP
[04:29] <bruce89> I doubt that'll work
[04:30] <wolter> Jordan_U, what is scp ?
[04:30] <bruce89> I thought you ran dd with the if and of the wrong way round?
[04:30] <bruce89> !scp
[04:30] <wolter> Jordan_U, source copy I guess?
[04:30] <Dreamglider> bruce89, what if all the stuff on the ntfs was at the end of the partition !
[04:30] <jrib> my guess would be "secure copy"
[04:30] <bruce89> wp says secure copy
[04:31] <wolter> Jordan_U, bruce89 well, mac doesn't have ssh installed by default.
[04:31] <ghoti> yes it does
[04:31] <bruce89> Dreamglider: you've been lucky
[04:31] <wolter> bruce89, yeah.. i hadn't read the !scp
[04:31] <ghoti> (assuming OS X)
[04:31] <jrib> ghoti: not enabled by default though, right?
[04:31] <ghoti> the *server* is not
[04:31] <ghoti> but you can SSH from the terminal at any time
[04:31] <wolter> !who | ghoti
[04:31] <jrib> yes, you are right
[04:32] <ghoti> I don't know if the 'connect to server' tool speaks SCP/SSH though
[04:32] <ghoti> If it does not
[04:32] <ghoti> you could look into FileZilla
[04:32] <Blade> wolter:  Hey Wolter .. do you know what i need to write in Terminal to install this "72611-PidginScreenlet-0.3.3" ?
[04:32] <ghoti> which is a great FTP/SCP/SFTP GUI tools
[04:32] <bruce89> my general principle is to direct things at people only if there is someone else talking at the same time
[04:32] <ghoti> http://filezilla-project.org/download.php
[04:32] <wolter> ghoti, well, the mac apparently recognizes the ssh command from the terminal.
[04:32] <Blade> wolter:  Hey Wolter .. do you know what i need to write in Terminal to install this "72611-PidginScreenlet-0.3.3.tar.gz" ?
[04:33] <wolter> lets remember mac is unix under the hood, like they say.
[04:33] <bruce89> !repeat | Blade
[04:33] <wolter> Blade, well, you have to extract it to begin with.
[04:33] <jrib> Blade: you would have to read the documentation.  Start by extracting it and looking inside for a README or INSTALL file
[04:33] <wolter> Blade, rclick, extract here
[04:33] <wolter> Blade, what jrib said.
[04:33] <Blade> wolter:  yes i have done that :)
[04:34] <Blade> wolter:  okay ill chekc
[04:34] <Blade> jrib:  alright :)
[04:34] <bruce89> wolter: there's no need to relay messages
[04:34] <wolter> bruce89, what do you mean?
[04:35] <bruce89> jrib directed it at Blade, so saying "what jrib said" has no effect
[04:36] <jrib> bruce89: I think he just meant that wolter and I were giving the same advice
[04:36]  * bruce89 really should count to ten before launching into a tirade
[04:36] <ghoti> or just use /msg :)
[04:37] <Blade> jrib:  Well, there are no readme or installation file, there are only those files " themes, PidginScreenlet.py, ThemeParser.py, menu.xml and Screenlet.package"
[04:37] <jrib> hrmm, this channel is dead
[04:37] <jrib> Blade: sorry, I don't know anything about screenlets.  Is it some sort of compiz thing?
[04:37] <usr13_> What is the name of the network manager?
[04:37] <ghoti> Blade: do you have a screenlets tool installed?
[04:37] <jrib> usr13_: network-manager?  nm-applet?  What do you mean?
[04:38] <wolter> bruce89, i managed to connect to my computer and succesfully loged in from the mac.
[04:38] <Blade> jrib:  its okay, i dont understand it either ;)
[04:38] <usr13_> network-manager
[04:38] <wolter> bruce89, now, how do I mount folders to the mac's desktop, do you happen to know?
[04:38] <Blade> ghoti:  Hm .. no, do i need that ?
[04:38] <ghoti> Blade: such as "screenlets" for example?  If you run that, there might be a way to install the screenlet package within it.
[04:38] <bruce89> wolter: nope
[04:38] <bruce89> !screenlets
[04:38] <ghoti> Blade: yes, screenlets are applets that are run my a sort of..
[04:38]  * ghoti points up
[04:39] <usr13_> network-manager: command not found
[04:39] <bruce89> that's a bit wrong, any composting manager will work
[04:39] <job_> i don't get sound while playing totem but i get sound with mplayer.  any idea???
[04:39]  * bruce89 didn't mean composting manager
[04:39] <ghoti> job_: it's possible totem speaks (for example) pulseaudio, whilse mplayer only speaks ALSA
[04:40] <jrib> !screenlets =~ s/have/have a compositing window manager such as/
[04:40] <job_> is totem also tied to audacious and xmms?  because those two don't play either
[04:40] <ghoti> I'm unsure
[04:40] <jrib> bruce89: better?
[04:40] <bruce89> jrib: indeed
[04:40] <jrib> job_: not really.  What's the issue?
[04:41] <Blade> ghoti:  i have tried "sudo apt-get install screenlet-package" but it cant find anything :(
[04:41] <ghoti> Blade: try apt-get install screenlets
[04:41] <usr13_> nm-applet, that's it.
[04:41] <malikyoda> if I format an ssd card on my eeepc with a swap space, does that count as having a swap space on my internal ssd?
[04:41] <bruce89> !info screenlets | Blade
[04:42] <b1n42y> malikyoda, you dont need swap space if you have lots of memory
[04:42] <jrib> job_: tried playing a simple file like a .wav?
[04:42] <Blade> ghoti:  Then it just says "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:42] <Blade> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:42] <Blade> "
[04:42] <bruce89> b1n42y: unless you want to suspend
[04:42] <job_> well i get sound with player only.  audacious, xmms and totem dont give me anything
[04:42] <malikyoda> II have 1gb of ram on my eee pc
[04:43] <job_> mplayer only
[04:43] <b1n42y> Bruce, you can suspend to memory
[04:43] <ghoti> Blade: you need to use sudo for apt-get
[04:43] <jrib> !who | job_
[04:43] <bruce89> hibernate, sorry
[04:43] <ghoti> Blade: so more fully, sudo apt-get install screenlets
[04:43] <b1n42y> malikyoda, ah well than its probably a good idea
[04:43] <malikyoda> if I upgraded to 2gb then I'm ok to not have one?
[04:44] <job_> jrib, mplayer only gives me the sound.  audacious, xmms and totem don't.
[04:44] <Blade> ghoti:  YEarh now somethings happen
[04:44] <b1n42y> malikyoda, i have 2gb on my oldish tablet pc, and i havent had problems
[04:44] <bruce89> malikyoda: if you are to hibernate, you need to have swap at least as big as the ram
[04:44] <jrib> job_: tried playing a simple file like a .wav?
[04:45] <job_> jrib i will try that now
[04:45] <lucax> hey guys, i cant start mplayer--- im on ubuntu intrepid and it gives me some error saying mplayer bad cpu usage or soemthing like that... any ideas how to solve this?
[04:45] <Blade> ghoti: Thank you for your help, really !
[04:45] <ghoti> Blade: That'll be US$8.00 :)
[04:45] <malikyoda> so will a removable ssd give me the ability to hibernate?
[04:45] <jrib> lucax: be precise.  Use pastebin for exact error messages
[04:45] <tech0007> job_: u need to configure ur apps to use alsa or pulse
[04:45] <b1n42y> malikyoda, to answer your initial question, yes if you can format your card to swap then it should be fine
[04:45] <Othor> ghoti: lol
[04:45] <malikyoda> ok
[04:45] <Blade> ghoti: Hahaha .. mr funny guy :P
[04:46] <ghoti> Blade: I'm told I have my moments :)
[04:46] <technologiclee> i was trying to set a PATH=.:$PATH
[04:46] <bruce89> with the Pound where it is
[04:46] <malikyoda> I've installed crunch bang without a swap space as suggested, was just curious
[04:46] <Blade> ghoti: Haha yes you have, indeed ;)
[04:46] <b1n42y> malikyoda, whats crunch bang
[04:46] <bruce89> !hibernate | malikyoda
[04:46] <job_> tech0007, how do you do that
[04:47] <malikyoda> its a variant of ubuntu
[04:47] <technologiclee> then i tried PATH=.:PATH - which has altered the PATH - what is the easiest was to put it back like it was?
[04:47] <b1n42y> ahh
[04:47] <malikyoda> it runs on openbox
[04:47] <mezy> ello?
[04:47] <malikyoda> it's lightweight
[04:47] <b1n42y> thanks
[04:47] <pythagorean23> thank you....
[04:48] <tech0007> job_: ex. in audacious, preferences->audio..look at current output plugin
[04:49] <pythagorean23> hey can anyone help me with a printer problem??
[04:49] <bruce89> !ask | pythagorean23