[04:00] <nolimitsoya> schlonzo, ive seem one for xfce on the dreamlinux live cd. find out what its called, and you might find a way to install and run it in ubuntu
[04:00] <naylor> any help would be really appreciated guys, i can't run certain programs cos i get errors such as: http://pastebin.ca/284994
[04:01] <nolimitsoya> Gartral, which is? if you dont get any replys your question hasnt been noticed. wait a while, and ask again
[04:01] <Gartral> ok,
[04:01] <Gartral> i have a slight configuration problem... my apps, Places, and System got put on the wrong side of the launch buttons.. any clues as to how to fix it?
[04:01] <Gartral> System menus *
[04:02] <nolimitsoya> Gartral, couldnt you just rightclick them and choose 'move'? i havnt used gnome in a long time...
[04:02] <Gartral> no... thats a KDE function
[04:02] <Invisible_> does postfix has webinterface?
[04:02] <nolimitsoya> Gartral, and xfce, mind you ;)
[04:03] <schlonzo> thank you guys
[04:03] <Gartral> i used X once, i didnt like it
[04:03] <minnmass> I am having problems with apt-get; it fails on "apt-get upgrade".  "unable to make backup link of `./bin/ls' before installing new version: Operation not permitted" (coreutils package)  Any suggestions on where to start?
[04:03] <Gartral> im THAT much of a control freak
[04:03] <un_operateur> Gartral, are you on gnome or KDE now?
[04:03] <Gartral> gnome
[04:04] <un_operateur> Gartal, try this -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low gnome-menus gnome-main-menu
[04:04] <Konnektion> !samba
[04:04] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:05] <Kesman> hey, does anybody know why my cpu usage jumps to 100% immediately when I run any 3d application?
[04:05] <runes> what's the recommended server to allow users to connect remotely and login to the gnome desktop?
[04:05] <Kesman> with fglrx
[04:05] <ScottK> Invisible_ - Postfix does not have a web interface.
[04:06] <Gartral> copy that directly to the terminal?
[04:06] <nolimitsoya> Kesman, id say you probably arent running fglrx at all, but mesa :)
[04:06] <iturk> hi there !! is it ok to remove the /lib/modules/ of the kernels that we have deleted from bootsection ??
[04:06] <un_operateur> Gartral, yep
[04:06] <Invisible_> ScottK> like squiralmail ? so that users can open it using internet explorer?
[04:06] <pike_> runes: on a lan or over internet?
[04:06] <Kesman> nolimitsoya: no way, fglrxinfo gives me correct info and so does glxinfo
[04:06] <Gartral> tym, brb
[04:06] <un_operateur> Gartral, and you probably need a reboot after that
[04:06] <runes> pike_, over the internet
[04:06] <un_operateur> Gartral, or logoff/logon
[04:06] <Rikkimaru> How can I figure out when a file was made? (ls doesn't give me AM or PM)
[04:06] <runes> pike_, all the users are running winxppro
[04:07] <pike_> runes: hands down i like freenx the best. its just snappy when others like regular vnc are unusable
[04:07] <minnmass> Rikkimaru: what does it say?
[04:07] <nolimitsoya> Rikkimaru, then its probably 24h format
[04:07] <Rikkimaru> minnmass: Dec 12 12:51
[04:07] <ScottK> Invisible_ - I believe that Squirrelmail has it's own SMTP engine built in.
[04:08] <Rikkimaru> nolimitsoya: ah, you are correct.  I hadn't seen one of the log files that was over 12:00 :(.
[04:08] <ScottK> What problem are you trying to solve?
[04:08] <runes> pike_,  not listed in the package manager
[04:09] <Gosha> wee, my midi files won't play .. did i mis installing something?
[04:09] <c0ntrol> PreInitDAL Failed (/var/log/X.log) can be fixed with the Options 'ForceMonitors' and MonitorLayout. It appeared that it failed to find the secundary head, and thus gave the DAL error.
[04:10] <Gosha> miss
[04:10] <un_operateur> !codecs
[04:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> I get this "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" everytime i run any 3d app or glxinfo ... what does it mean?
[04:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> btw ... everything jworks just fine... just wondering what it means...
[04:11] <clem> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: I wouldn't pay attention to it.. I get it as well. Just a warning, things work fine.
[04:11] <naylor> can anyone help, some apps aren't working and getting errors: http://pastebin.ca/284994
[04:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> k .. thanks
[04:12] <clem> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: I'm getting this on an Intel 855GM btw.
[04:12] <un_operateur> naylor, is that a bittorrent client you are using there?
[04:12] <scythe128> question: How do I download all the updates to one computer, apply them, and then take the files I downloaded to another computer and apply them. The other computer does not have any net connectivity
[04:12] <DanaG> /var/cache/apt
[04:12] <un_operateur> !clone | scythe128
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <DanaG> /archives
[04:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clem ,i'm 845 GL ...
[04:13] <un_operateur> !cloning | scythe128
[04:13] <ubotu> scythe128: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[04:13] <naylor> un_operateur, yeah amongst other stuff that won't work
[04:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clem ,i just asked cos i'm new to lin and wasnt sure if warnings cause any harm ....
[04:13] <un_operateur> naylor, are you on an older distro like breezy?
[04:13] <clem> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: no problem.
[04:14] <Gartral> un, i pmed you...
[04:14] <un_operateur> Gartral, I pmed you back :)
[04:14] <un_operateur> Gartral, and got no reply
[04:14] <[3B> this is so weird i did install kvirc via apt-get but i dont find where kvirc got installed any1 could help me ?
[04:14] <naylor> un_operateur, no i'm using edgy - had some powercuts and ran fsck and fixed a load of errors but stuff has got corrupted
[04:14] <Gartral> i never recived a reply from you...
[04:15] <clem> you'd expect the PM channel to manage control as well as data :)
[04:15] <un_operateur> Gartral, maybe your PMs aren't open
[04:15] <clem> only kidding folks :)
[04:15] <ken> People, i need some help finding the program "jedit", i cant find it in synaptic/add-remove, where should i get it?
[04:15] <Gartral> i use gaim, and i do have PMs open
[04:15] <un_operateur> ken, i cant find it in my repos either --- doesnt look like a ubuntu package
[04:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,are u the same one tryin to compile ktoon yesterday?
[04:15] <Jussi01> My su password doesnt work... anyone know how to fix this?
[04:16] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: yes
[04:16] <un_operateur> naylor,   at a terminal -- sudo aptitude install -f
[04:16] <clem> Jussi01: what are you trying to do ?
[04:16] <felixfoertsch> Good afternoon - which drivers do I need for an Intel Onboard Graphicscard?
[04:16] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,u managed it?
[04:16] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: And i was horribly unsuccessful at that
[04:16] <un_operateur> Jussi01, su doesnt work on ubuntu -- use sudo instead
[04:16] <clem> felixfoertsch: most likely i810
[04:16] <nolimitsoya> !passwd | Jussi01
[04:16] <ubotu> passwd: change and administer password and group data. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2316 kB
[04:16] <un_operateur> !sudo | Jussi01
[04:16] <ubotu> Jussi01: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:16] <felixfoertsch> clem: Are those in the repositories?
[04:17] <Gartral> Ken, apt-get install <program name>
[04:17] <un_operateur> !jedit
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <clem> un_operateur: su does work.... it's just that root has a weird password that's all :)
[04:17] <naylor> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/285014
[04:17] <Jussi01> ok...how do i get to root then?
[04:17] <ken> Gartral: Can i install a program through apt-get even if i cant find it in synaptic?
[04:17] <clem> felixfoertsch: installed by default
[04:17] <Gartral> sometimes
[04:17] <nolimitsoya> Jussi01, you dont. use sudo
[04:17] <un_operateur> clem, on ubntu -- root login is disabled -- there is no password :)
[04:17] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,heres what i suuggest (never tried it myself though)  http://ktoon.toonka.com/documentation/index.php?title=Compiling_KToon_using_QT4
[04:17] <clem> un_operateur: there is, it's a random one.
[04:17] <Gartral> you know how to get apt-get to work right?
[04:18] <nolimitsoya> un_operateur, yes there is. its set random on install
[04:18] <minnmass> Jussi01: in terminal, use "sudo <command>" to run <command> as root.
[04:18] <ken> Gartral: I will not say that
[04:18] <naylor> un_operateur, what do i do now?
[04:18] <felixfoertsch> clem: So the hardware 3D acceleration should work?
[04:18] <clem> felixfoertsch: yes
[04:18] <Kingsqueak> there is no root password
[04:18] <felixfoertsch> clem: Thanks!
[04:18] <clem> felixfoertsch: glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:18] <Kingsqueak> look at /etc/shadow, if you have a password set for root, something is wrong
[04:19] <Jussi01> minnmass: yeah tried that - i get this message The '/home/jussi' directory does not belong to you.
[04:19] <Jussi01> Point $HOME to your home directory and try again.
[04:19] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: worth a try, but looking at my level of incompetence with linux, theres not much hope left, it simply leaves me more frustrated than ever, when i cant achieve a task in Linux. And i came to linux for peace of mind. What contradiction!
[04:19] <un_operateur> naylor, all i can think of is -- remove and reinstall that application
[04:19] <mjs> nolimitsoya: there seems to be a problem with the burning process.... after burning the disk, and then checking the properties.... it is as if the disk was never burned.
[04:19] <naylor> un_operateur, tried that, i've reinstalled all sorts of stuff but got errors all over the shop
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> mjs, try another burning app
[04:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,i suppose that happens ion the beginning ... ( i'm a newbie too...)
[04:19] <mjs> nolimitsoya: That is what I am downloading as we speak.
[04:20] <ken> So finally how would i get "jedit" in Ubuntu?
[04:20] <clem> ken: what's jedit ?
[04:20] <Kingsqueak> jedit is java, just go download it
[04:20] <frogzoo> ken: no jedit, but gedit yes
[04:20] <naylor> un_operateur, this is what i get when try to run add/remove: http://pastebin.ca/285017
[04:20] <clem> ken: do you mean gedit ?
[04:20] <Gartral> ken, go into terminal, type "sudo su" it will ask for your password, just type it in, it wont show, but its there, after that type "apt-get install jedit"
[04:20] <un_operateur> naylor, it looks like the python libraries need updating
[04:21] <ken> Gartral: "E: Couldn't find package jedit
[04:21] <ken> "
[04:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clem ,there exists a jedit too ....
[04:21] <clem> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: ok
[04:21] <Gartral> right, try "gedit"
[04:21] <frogzoo> ken: also 'jed'
[04:21] <ken> clem: frogzoo: Thats a open source editor written in Java, especially useful for programmers
[04:21] <nolimitsoya> Gartral, that shouldnt be recommanded to anyone who is not fully onboard the risks of running as su
[04:21] <frogzoo> ken: also 'xjed'
[04:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,i dont believe jedit exists in  ubuntu repos
[04:21] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: It doesn't :(
[04:22] <nolimitsoya> !jedit
[04:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,give me a minute and i'll try to figure jedit for u ...
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <naylor> un_operateur, how do i find out what needs reinstalling, tried various python stuff in synaptics but to no avail
[04:22] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: You have all the time in the world at your disposal :)
[04:22] <ken> Whats the next best bet to get a package i want to install if it isn't in ubuntu's repos and is fairly popular?
[04:22] <nolimitsoya> ken, find a deb
[04:23] <un_operateur> naylor, from the look of it -- it is the python_dbus bindings -- at a terminal -- sudo aptitude install python2.4-dbus python-dbus
[04:23] <sunnz2> ANyone know how orca works?
[04:23] <clem> ken: there's a debian package here http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download
[04:23] <ken> nolimitsoya: Is there some popular place where i cant get/find all .debs?
[04:23] <sunnz2> I have installed it.
[04:23] <minnmass> I need help with apt-get; "apt-get upgrade" ... doesn't.
[04:23] <nolimitsoya> ken, not that i know of...
[04:23] <un_operateur> naylor, wait , this first -- sudo aptitude remove python2.4-dbus python-dbus
[04:23] <[3B> this is so weird i did install kvirc via apt-get but i dont find where kvirc got installed any1 could help me ?
[04:23] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, have you tried the dist-upgrade?
[04:24] <nolimitsoya> [3B, just type kvirc in a terminal
[04:24] <un_operateur> [38 -- at a terminal -- sudo updatedb; locate kvirc
[04:24] <MarcN> [3B: what does apt-get say?
[04:24] <minnmass> nolimitsoya: yes
[04:24] <[3B> marcn its all done
[04:24] <[3B> the installacion was finished
[04:24] <[3B> al right
[04:24] <minnmass> "unable to make backup link of `./bin/ls' before installing new version: Operation not permitted"
[04:24] <[3B> but i dont find kfic
[04:24] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, whats the complaint then? from apt, that is... have you tried aptitude?
[04:24] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, ok, is the disk full?
[04:24] <[3B> nolimitsoya,  thanks YA! :D
[04:25] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,get the deb off here ... and install http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=588&package_id=48232
[04:25] <dromer> !ipkg
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <minnmass> no; 4.5G free.
[04:25] <nolimitsoya> [3B, you can launch it by pressing alt+f2 and typing as well. that way you dont have to have the terminal open. you can also create a launcher to just double click
[04:26] <naylor> un_operateur, hi that's definately fixed my add/remove but not bittorrent! but thanks good start
[04:27] <SgtCyrex> how do i copy everything in a folder (including subfolders) to another directory?
[04:27] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, clem, i got the .deb. Now how do we install that thing?
[04:27] <clem> ken: double click on it
[04:27] <clem> ken: or in a terminal "sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb"
[04:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken , use "sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[04:27] <minnmass> SgtCyrex: terminal?  If so, "cp -r <source> <destination>
[04:28] <curs0r>  so...kiba-dock is just a launcher eh?
[04:28] <un_operateur> naylor, can you give me the errors bittorrent are giving you now ?
[04:28] <un_operateur> s/are/is/
[04:28] <naylor> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/284994
[04:28] <ken> clem: GreyGhost-Ubuntu: Thank you, you guys have helped me a lot
[04:28] <clem> ken: you're welcome. merry xmas :)
[04:28] <curs0r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57iIvPB1l0
[04:29] <ken> clem: *hugs*
[04:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,ur welcome .... i help ppl in the hope that i get helped when i need help one day :)
[04:29] <Gartral> un, try iming me again
[04:29] <ski-worklap> arggggggggg
[04:29] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: There not much hope in that logic, unless you believe in direct accountability of God to your good deeds. Anyways thanks :)
[04:29] <ski-worklap> these weird java crashes are starting to piss me off
[04:29] <ski-worklap> SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb0634d02, pid=21147, tid=3085362864
[04:29] <un_operateur> Gartral, I just did
[04:29] <ski-worklap> every time i start azureus
[04:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> bbl .... dinner .... and my fav. toon :)
[04:30] <mc44> !ohmy | ski-worklap
[04:30] <ubotu> ski-worklap: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:30] <SgtCyrex> minnmass: yeah, but lets say /home/user/Desktop/music/(all them files and directories) to /home/user/audio/...
[04:30] <curs0r> ski-worklap, use bittornado, not as convenient but better for your sanity
[04:30] <ski-worklap> curs0r, my tracker forbids it :(
[04:30] <Gartral> daminit, brb, im not using gain for irc anymore
[04:30] <ken> ski-worklap: i recommend ktorrent
[04:30] <ken> gartral: whats wrong with gaim?
[04:31] <un_operateur> naylor, can you type this command and give me its output --  dpkg -S `which gnome-btdownload`
[04:31] <minnmass> SgtCreyx "cp -r /home/user/Desktop/music /home/user/audio/"
[04:31] <Blake11> what is the xgl channel?
[04:31] <SeamusLP> Gartral: Use irssi, its a good command line client
[04:31] <ski-worklap> mc44, what'd i say? piss?
[04:31] <SeamusLP> oh, he left
[04:31] <mc44> ski-worklap: well repeating it isnt going to help :p
[04:31] <ski-worklap> sorry
[04:31] <ski-worklap> just wanted to verify the language filter is that low
[04:31] <kanzie> I just updated my JRE to using SUNs on my Edgy and now Azureus wont start no more...
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Blake11: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:31] <mc44> ski-worklap: theres no need to swear :)
[04:32] <naylor> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/285024
[04:32] <ski-worklap> Kanafani, what were you running before that?
[04:32] <Blake11> thanks
[04:32] <ski-worklap> err kanzie what were yiou running before? i have the same problem
[04:33] <kanzie> the one that comes with edgy, think it is the GNU version
[04:33] <ken> Is there some place where we have a HUGE list of .debs, from where we can get a package if its not in ubuntu's repos. Something like Download.com for deb-based distributions...or whatever?
[04:33] <kanzie> trying to reinstall azureus now
[04:33] <ski-worklap> Kanzie, oh azureus can run with gcj? interesting
[04:33] <ken> kanzie: Can you do a favour for your PC (do we call it that here?) and not use that resource hog?
[04:33] <kanzie> not to well though
[04:34] <SeamusLP> ken: sometimes the software devs will release debs, and sometimes people will put debs on the forums, but I don't know of any large collection outside of the repositories
[04:34] <kanzie> ken, sorry dude, dont really have any performance-issues with when running SUNs JRE... however on Windows I wouldnt touch it for the world
[04:34] <SeamusLP> ken: you can also use alien to convert rpm to deb
[04:34] <ken> SeamusLP: Thats sad. Than tell me, what do you do to get a package not in ubuntu.
[04:35] <kanzie> ken, also, there are hardly any good alternatives on Linux since uTorrent doe snot exist
[04:35] <ski-worklap> ken - do you have multiverse and universe, for starters?
[04:35] <clem> ken: I usually look in Debian's repo :)
[04:35] <ken> kanzie: Are you castisaging Sun? <frowns>
[04:35] <raghu206> is there any software that can open files with chm format
[04:35] <ken> ski-worklap: Yes, sir!
[04:35] <kanzie> shit... keeps on dying
[04:35] <SeamusLP> ken you either 1) find a deb 2) convert from rpm or 3) compile from source
[04:35] <un_operateur> naylor,  sudo aptitude install gconf2 bittorrent python-gtk2 python-gnome2 python-glade2 python-gnomecanvas
[04:35] <ken> kanzie: A ex-utorrent user like me, should use ktorrent.
[04:35] <naylor> un_operateur, hey just reinstalled everything in synaptics that had python in front of it and now bittorrent is working
[04:36] <un_operateur> naylor, ha ha -- ok :)
[04:36] <Thor> clear
[04:36] <ski-worklap> you got the seveas repos too?
[04:36] <ken> kanzie: Did you try utorrent's web interface?
[04:36] <kanzie> ken, neh... not on gnome
[04:36] <ken> clem: ok
[04:36] <ski-worklap> what about canonical and plf, those are handy too (when they work)
[04:36] <naylor> un_operateur, but few things still not right
[04:36] <kanzie> ken, web interface... nope, never heard of it
[04:36] <ski-worklap> !seveas
[04:36] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:36] <ski-worklap> !canonical
[04:36] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[04:36] <Trixsey> Hey guys.. I just installed ATI drivers (fglrx) but I keep falling back to mesa.. I'm on edgy
[04:36] <ski-worklap> !plf
[04:36] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[04:37] <ken> kanzie: When will people accpet the fact that GNOME/KDE are innocent siblings, and the programs run with no ill-feelings in either environment?
[04:37] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, edit your xorg.conf to use fglrx
[04:37] <Trixsey> done it
[04:37] <ken> kanzie: There exists a web-interface for utorrent, go check it out
[04:37] <un_operateur> ken, you still looking for jedit??
[04:37] <Trixsey> I been searching for like 10 hours
[04:37] <Trixsey> so I tried most tutorials
[04:37] <Trixsey> and stuff :P
[04:37] <ski-worklap> Trixsey, did you disable compositing?
[04:37] <ken> un_operateur: Thank you for your consideration, but the fine fellows here, told me how to do it. And now its working
[04:38] <un_operateur> ken, coolies :)
[04:38] <ken> :)
[04:38] <naylor> un_operateur, automatix was working before the powercut but now i get this when trying to start it up: http://pastebin.ca/285031
[04:38] <ski-worklap> Trixsey, Section "Extensions"  \n  Option "Composite" "false"  \n  EndSection
[04:38] <jatt> !automatix
[04:38] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:38] <ski-worklap> that worked for me (tm)
[04:38] <jatt> naylor: don't use automatix
[04:38] <Thor> test
[04:38] <Stormx2> Agreed.
[04:38] <ski-worklap> there's also easyubuntu
[04:38] <ski-worklap> !WorksForMe
[04:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:39] <kanzie> ken, do you have a link?
[04:39] <ski-worklap> Uboto, does that mean i should go back to debian stable?? ;)
[04:39] <ken> When i click a link that you people provide me, in xchat. Nothing happens, but when i right-click>open in browser, the originial Mozilla browser opens with it (NOT firefox). What to do?
[04:39] <ken> kanzie: let me find it
[04:39] <SeamusLP> Whats wrong with automatix?  I've used it since dapper without problems.
[04:39] <Stormx2> ski-worklap: You're talking to a bot
[04:39] <Stormx2> SeamusLP: breaks systems
[04:39] <ski-worklap> Stormx2, i know :)
[04:39] <nolimitsoya> ski-worklap, yes, you should if stability it toppriority
[04:39] <apokryphos> SeamusLP: we've seen many broken systems which automatix was the result
[04:39] <kanzie> ken, it seems it needs to run a .exe still...
[04:40] <ski-worklap> it's more interesting than talking to myself
[04:40] <SeamusLP> how exactly does it break systems?
[04:40] <Trixsey> ski-worklap, tried it
[04:40] <Trixsey> like I said
[04:40] <Trixsey> been going for 10 hours
[04:40] <SeamusLP> all it does is add some repositories and download software
[04:40] <kanzie> ken, so basically not for me...
[04:40] <un_operateur> naylor, that one is because the URL http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/sos.key is no longer available
[04:40] <Stormx2> SeamusLP: Forcing yes, not creating proper backups... etc. Seriously, take my word for it.
[04:40] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, by passing uncontrolled scripts and breaking the rules for packaging
[04:41] <Stormx2> SeamusL: Basically its really badly scripted and wouldn't be counted as "safe"
[04:41] <naylor> un_operateur, awesome thanks a lot for your help, you're the man
[04:41] <naylor> thanks see ya
[04:41] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, it also disables repo key checking, which is dangerous at best
[04:41] <ken> kanzie: you are right!
[04:41] <SeamusLP> What alternatives are there to automatix, then?
[04:41] <Stormx2> SeamusLP: yes
[04:41] <nolimitsoya> !easyubuntu | SeamusLP
[04:41] <ubotu> SeamusLP: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:42] <kanzie> shit... something is rotten in my Java-install... I think Im leaving Edgy now
[04:42] <ken> kanzie: May i ask the reason for your reluctance to use ktorrent?
[04:42] <kanzie> back to Dapper
[04:42] <kanzie> ken, none whatsoever
[04:42] <kanzie> trying it now
[04:42] <ken> kanzie: than whats stopping you
[04:42] <Stormx2> kanzie: Java is screwed for you?
[04:42] <un_operateur> kanzie, where did you install java from -- the repos or sun's site?
[04:42] <kanzie> un_operateur, repos
[04:42] <malt1> anyone know of any free smtp mail services, i need it to send mail with phpbb....
[04:43] <kanzie> Stormx2, yes... I try to start Azureus and it core-dumps on me
[04:43] <un_operateur> kanzie, are other java applications working well??
[04:43] <kanzie> with reference to Java bugreport-site
[04:43] <PriceChild> !language | kanzie
[04:43] <ubotu> kanzie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:43] <kanzie> PriceChild, what did I say that was offensive?
[04:43] <kanzie> I dont curse so this is kind of puzzling for me
[04:43] <un_operateur> the 4 letter s word :)
[04:44] <kanzie> what? where...
[04:44] <kanzie> "core"?
[04:44] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/080667.html <- check this out for a discussion between devs and the automatix dev
[04:44] <un_operateur> kanzie, s word dude :p
[04:44] <SeamusLP> nolimitsoya: cool, I'll check it out
[04:44] <Stormx2> kanzie: Got the latest version? Seen !java ?
[04:44] <kanzie> oh...
[04:44] <PriceChild> kanzie, have you chosen your default java version?
[04:45] <kanzie> PriceChild, yes...
[04:45] <SeamusLP> and for now I'll recommend easyubuntu over automatix, it seems to be just as functional
[04:45] <kanzie> PriceChild, by editing the /etc/jvm filke?
[04:45] <ken> Thank you people, Long live ubuntu!
[04:45] <kanzie> PriceChild, is there any other way?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, no it isnt. its much more functional, since it doesnt break your system ;)
[04:46] <Wanderer> hmm, the source-o-matic is completely dropped now it seems :<
[04:47] <SeamusLP> nolimitsoya well I meant as far as features go ;)
[04:47] <leobloom> hallo everybody!
[04:47] <Gartra1> im back
[04:47] <PriceChild> !hi > leobloom
[04:47] <kanzie> PriceChild, so... any ideas?
[04:47] <SeamusLP> nolimitsoya: is it feasible to reverse the changes made by automatix?
[04:47] <PriceChild> kanzie, have you chosen your default java verson?
[04:48] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, no
[04:48] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, well, i guess you could do it manualy, but thats not very practical... itll be easier to just reinstall ubuntu
[04:49] <kanzie> PriceChild, by editing the /etc/jvm-file yes, I changed Sun-1.5.0 to top oif the list, is there anything else Im expected to do?
[04:49] <atIantis> Is there a tutuorial anywhere to install Azureues on Edgy? I see that many people are having the same problem as I am, but havent gotten any working solutions.  (sudo apt-get install azureues does not work)
[04:49] <minnmass> I've seen a couple of suggestions to reinstall ubuntu.  Is it possible to do this without losing /home ?
[04:49] <PriceChild> kanzie, please run this:
[04:49] <PriceChild> sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[04:49] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, yes, if /home is on a separate partition, or if you back it up
[04:50] <SeamusLP> nolimitsoya: well what if you removed all of the packages installed by automatix?
[04:50] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, making a separate partition for home should be standard procediure when installing any linux distro...
[04:50] <Gartra1> right, i have "home" on a usb disk
[04:50] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, doesnt fix the breakage
[04:50] <Trixsey> Hey guys.. I just installed ATI drivers (fglrx) but I keep falling back to mesa.. I'm on edgy!
[04:50] <leobloom> uhm is there anyone who could help me ? I have a problem with skype and ubuntu 6.10 and I'm a newby!
[04:50] <Stormx2> minnmass: You could make a backup.
[04:50] <curs0r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57iIvPB1l0 <--my beryl demo needs hits lol
[04:50] <Trixsey> tips!? .8
[04:50] <Trixsey> trix? :(
[04:50] <jatt> !ask
[04:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:50] <nolimitsoya> SeamusLP, if youve been hozed by automatix, reinstall. itll save you time and grief
[04:50] <minnmass> nolimitsoya: true as that might be, ubuntu doesn't by default.
[04:50] <un_operateur> kanzie, sudo  update-alternatives --config java
[04:50] <PriceChild> Trixsey, have you followed a guide to install them?
[04:51] <wijnand> jatt: who was that for?
[04:51] <PriceChild> un_operateur, way ahead of you ;)
[04:51] <Stormx2> For leobloom
[04:51] <Trixsey> PriceChild, yeah I been trying for 10 hours straight
[04:51] <kanzie> PriceChild, done that before
[04:51] <jatt> wijnand: that was for leobloom.
[04:51] <minnmass> where would one go to suggest that it did that?  Or, to suggest the option at install, to not overwrite /home?
[04:51] <Trixsey> tried just about everything it feels like :P
[04:51] <un_operateur> PriceChild, on another plane ;)
[04:51] <kanzie> un_operateur, it is set for java-1.5.0
[04:51] <|cub|> hi people
[04:51] <Trixsey> whats the name of the ATI driver in the repos?
[04:51] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, im aware of that. thats simply becouse such a decision can only be made by the admin, and rule of thumbs dont work. if they did, itd be standard
[04:51] <Stormx2> hey |cub|
[04:51] <PriceChild> kanzie, could you pastebin the terminal ouput of "azureus"
[04:51] <wijnand> jatt: oh right, turns out i block those lines out, sorry! :P
[04:51] <Gartra1> eeegah... to many ppl
[04:51] <un_operateur> kanzie, among which other versions?
[04:51] <leobloom> sorry what was for me? I havent got it!
[04:51] <nolimitsoya> minnmass, you just set the mountboint of /home to be the partition that was previously /home
[04:51] <Gartra1> ive never experienced lag from IRC before
[04:52] <Stormx2> leobloom: Just ask a question :)
[04:52] <kanzie> un_operateur, /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1 & /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[04:52] <Gartra1> lol
[04:52] <|cub|> can anyone tell me why /etc/init.d/networking cat be run at start automatically?
[04:53] <|cub|> cant*
[04:53] <leobloom> I have installed the debian pack of skype for ubuntu and i can use it but I can't talk anymore, the first tiem I've run it it worked perfectly, now it doesnt anymore, I can listen perfectly but the one talking to me hears nnothing at all =o/
[04:53] <kanzie> un_operateur, PriceChild all seems to work now... thank you very much
[04:53] <un_operateur> kanzie, glad to know that :)
[04:53] <PriceChild> kanzie, good to hear :)
[04:53] <leobloom> I'm not good with linux yet and dunno where to look to check what's wrong
[04:53] <PriceChild> leobloom, wha thave you changed ;)
[04:53] <kanzie> maybe someone knows how to get suspend to ram to work on a Thinkpad T60 on Edgy?
[04:53] <PriceChild> leobloom, checked your mic isn't muted? - simple things first
[04:54] <minnmass> leobloom: are you sure the microphone is plugged in?  That's bitten me a couple of times...
[04:54] <leobloom> the mic is plugged but dunno if it's muted how can I check it on ubuntu?
[04:54] <atIantis> |cub|, sudo update-rc.d network defaults   <~ i think that shoudl work, check man update-rc.d
[04:54] <un_operateur> leobloom, also verify that mic volume is up
[04:54] <|cub|> thnx
[04:54] <leobloom> again, how?=o9 sorry but I dunnowhere to looj
[04:54] <leobloom> *look for these things
[04:55] <un_operateur> leobloom, errm, i dont use gnome -- but it surely cant be hard to find in the main menu
[04:56] <un_operateur> leobloom, look for anything that resembles a speaker/mixer
[04:56] <minnmass> leobloom: double-click on the volume control to bring up the  mixer
[04:56] <atIantis> has anyone gotten Azureus to work on edgy?
[04:56] <kanzie> atIantis, using it right now
[04:56] <|cub|> atIantis, ill try to re-add...
[04:56] <vyouzhi> lol
[04:57] <leobloom> thanks minmass! the mic was uncheckd now I try to use it and see if it works
[04:57] <minnmass> leobloom: no problem.
[04:57] <leobloom> thanks a real lot it works!
[04:57] <lester_> does anyone know if subversion integration exists for nautilus? something like tortoisesvn on win32
[04:57] <Gartra1> is there anyway to truley kill popus?
[04:57] <Gartra1> popups*
[04:58] <kanzie> lester_, nope
[04:58] <minnmass> Shifting from "helpful" to "looking for help" ... aptitude doesn't upgrade without errors...
[04:58] <minnmass> ...neither does apt-get
[04:58] <SeamusLP> atIantis: I had problems with azureus crashing in edgy, so I downloaded version 5 of the official client
[04:58] <atIantis> kanzie, did you have to do anything sepcial to get it to work? i tried a simple apt-get, but get an error like 'no ssl support'.  ill try the source, i just like the packages because of the auto updates
[04:59] <atIantis> SeamusLP, i cant even get it to run, ill try the official client
[04:59] <assasukasse> hi everyone i have a problem with compiz
[04:59] <lester_> anyone managed to get window borders in beryl on edgy?
[04:59] <un_operateur> lester_, it's quite possible to add scripts to nautilus -- but they are only run when manually invoked -- perhaps not good enough for SVN
[04:59] <Trixsey> I'm running an ATI Radeon X700 Mobility and XGL.. I just installed the fglrx drivers but I keep falling back to mesa. Composite is disabled and I tried a whole lot of stuff like re-compiling fglrx. Tips? Anyone?
[05:00] <lester_> un_operateur, kanzie, ok
[05:00] <SeamusLP> atIantis: you may need to uninstall bittorrent/gnome-btdownload first
[05:00] <paranoia16> anyone here ever tried fedora core 6?
[05:00] <ignazio> bn nb
[05:00] <nolimitsoya_> !anyone | paranoia16
[05:00] <ubotu> paranoia16: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:01] <naylor> hey dudes does anyone know of a repository where i can get fspot updated to 0.3, the newer version is much better and would really like to update it
[05:01] <assasukasse> why i can't activate animation on the compiz settings? when i do, close and open again, is not there anymore
[05:01] <naylor> ps i'm on edgy
[05:01] <PriceChild> assasukasse, please ask in #beryl
[05:01] <PriceChild> assasukasse, or #ubuntu-xgl
[05:01] <nolimitsoya_> paranoia16, its better to ask "what do you think of.../is x compatible with.../how does dualboot work with..." etc
[05:02] <assasukasse> thanks PriceChild
[05:02] <minnmass> coreutils won't upgrade with aptitude or apt-get.  Please help!
[05:02] <un_operateur> naylor, did you mean f-spot ??  - personal photo management application >
[05:02] <gues1> is that nubuntu website expired???
[05:02] <paranoia16> is fedora core 6 as easy to use as ubuntu?
[05:03] <|cub|> atIantis, it helped. thnx
[05:03] <naylor> un_operateur, yeah f-spot sorry that's what i meant
[05:03] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> paranoia16 ,depends from person to person ?
[05:03] <un_operateur> paranoia16, FC6 might be -- but earlier versions had problems with dependancies
[05:03] <nolimitsoya_> paranoia16, as its rpm based, id say no. youll end up in dependency hell in no time at all
[05:03] <zi1> hi all anyone in here use gpsdrive
[05:03] <robin> hello
[05:03] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> but i never found it easy.... atleast Ubuntu is much easier...
[05:03] <un_operateur> !f-spot
[05:03] <ubotu> f-spot: personal photo management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 573 kB, installed size 3396 kB
[05:04] <paranoia16> well, i was thinking of switching to is because i think it supports lightscribe
[05:04] <un_operateur> naylor, pool/main/f/f-spot/f-spot_0.3.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:04] <kupesoft> I'm having trouble finding documentation detailing the installation of a fax server for Ubuntu,
[05:04] <kupesoft> Should I just use HylaFAX with the Debian-style instructions?
[05:04] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !Hi | robin  , zi
[05:04] <ubotu> robin  , zi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:04] <SeamusLP> nolimitsoya_: RPM still doesn't have dependency resolution?
[05:04] <naylor> un_operateur, how do i get to this?
[05:04] <un_operateur> kupesoft, they ought to work
[05:04] <paranoia16> is it supposed to support lightscibe? on the lightscribe.com, it has a .rpm, so fedora supports it, right?
[05:04] <nolimitsoya_> SeamusLP, a very crude one, that more othen than not is broken
[05:04] <robin> #ubuntu-uk on irc.freenode.org
[05:04] <un_operateur> naylor, -- sudo aptitude install f-spot   ought to work
[05:05] <gues1> anyone pz help
[05:05] <robin> #ubuntu-uk on irc.freenode.net
[05:05] <robin> ubuntu-uk on irc.freenode.net
[05:05] <kupesoft> robin: stop.
[05:05] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> paranoia16 ,if it works on FC i don't see why it shouldn't work on Ubuntu though...
[05:05] <fkumro> paranoia16, why not use alien and convert the rpm
[05:05] <naylor> un_operateur, but that just gives me the normal 0.2 version that comes with edgy
[05:05] <lester_> robin dude.. we know..
[05:05] <un_operateur> SeamusLP, the RPM has dependency resolution capabilities -- its just that authors of packages dont verify them or ensure the right ones
[05:05] <CaBlGuY> I'm running 6.10 Edgy and have froze up and had to shut my box down and reboot twice now in the past 2 days...   whats the deal??
[05:05] <Trixsey> I'm running an ATI Radeon X700 Mobility and XGL.. I just installed the fglrx drivers but I keep falling back to mesa. Composite is disabled and I tried a whole lot of stuff like re-compiling fglrx. Tips? Anyone?
[05:05] <zi1> robin type / join first
[05:06] <un_operateur> naylor, the latest version in the pool is  0.3.0-0ubuntu1
[05:06] <SeamusLP> CaBlGuY:  did your entire system freeze, or could you do ctrl-alt-backspace and restart X?
[05:06] <CaBlGuY> SeamusLP:  entire system froze..
[05:06] <naylor> un_operateur, how do i add this repo?
[05:07] <paranoia16> i tried that. but, after i "install", it didn't add anything to the start menu. im new, and i haven't quite figured out the file structure. where do programs "install"
[05:07] <nolimitsoya_> paranoia16, just type the name of the program in a terminal
[05:07] <paranoia16> how can i make a shortcut?
[05:07] <SeamusLP> CaBlGuY you may have some buggy drivers. What are you doing when it locks up? does it appear to happen randomly?
[05:07] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> paranoia16 ,start terminal and type lightscribe
[05:07] <minnmass> paranoia16: have you tried launching from the teriminal?  just type the name of the program you want.
[05:07] <fkumro> paranoia16, tab completion is your friend
[05:07] <atIantis> SeamusLP, i had gnome-btdownload install, but uninstalled, i get an error that seems to be from 'No SSL provider avalible'
[05:07] <nolimitsoya_> paranoia16, they are called launchers. rightclick in the right place :)
[05:08] <CaBlGuY> SeamusLP:  yes, happenes randomly..   I wasn't doing the same thing eather time..
[05:08] <SeamusLP> atIantis you need to uninstall bittorrent too, then run the bittorrent5 deb
[05:08] <minnmass> paranoia16: if it runs, you can type "which <program>" in the terminal, and that will tell you where the program lives.
[05:08] <un_operateur> !repositories
[05:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:08] <un_operateur> naylor ^^^
[05:08] <SeamusLP> CablGuY: have you been through any log files?
[05:08] <minnmass> paranoia16: put that in the luancher
[05:08] <paranoia16> ok, and, can i install gimpshop in ubuntu?
[05:08] <un_operateur> naylor, if you want the package direct -- http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/f-spot/f-spot_0.3.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:08] <zi1> is anyone in here using gpsdrive
[05:08] <gues1> anyone visit the nubuntu web?
[05:08] <CaBlGuY> SeamusLP:  nope..   not yet I wouldn't even know where to look..
[05:08] <nolimitsoya_> !anyone | zi
[05:08] <ubotu> zi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:08] <nolimitsoya_> !anyone | zi1
[05:08] <ubotu> zi1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:09] <robin> does anyone no where to get a dvd decoder for totem
[05:09] <robin> or a command
[05:09] <SeamusLP> CablGuy: Yeah I can't remember which ones would be relevant.  Maybe you could do dmesg | less and look for errors
[05:09] <nolimitsoya_> !dvd | robin
[05:09] <ubotu> robin: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:09] <CaBlGuY> robin:  use Xine player
[05:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> paranoia16 , then if u want it in the menu too , right click on the menu bar ... select edit menu... find where u want it... and click on add item ..
[05:09] <robin> is there an apt for xine
[05:09] <Wayne_> robin> apt-get install xine :D
[05:09] <CaBlGuY> robin:  just use your package manager and DL it through there
[05:09] <paranoia16> does gimpshop work with ubuntu 6.06?
[05:10] <naylor> un_operateur, but i have all my repos enabled in the sources dialog... but it's not finding an update?
[05:10] <SeamusLP> CaBlGuY: there are also log files in /var/log
[05:10] <CaBlGuY> SeamusLP:  ok...  thanks.. I'll look into it...
[05:10] <gues1> anyone plz help
[05:10] <nolimitsoya_> robin, it wont help you. follow the docs link you got before running of installing nonrelated stuff
[05:10] <atIantis> SeamusLP, what is the bittorrent5 deb?
[05:10] <gues1> help on nubuntu
[05:10] <un_operateur> naylor, the latest version might not be added to Edgy's packages yet -- you might have to wait it out
[05:10] <CaBlGuY> gues1:  ask you question..
[05:10] <zi1>  nolimitsoya_ what you on about
[05:11] <PriceChild> !anyone | CaBlGuY
[05:11] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:11] <gues1> nubuntu.org expired?
[05:11] <robin> would sudo aptitude install xine,work
[05:11] <naylor> un_operateur, sorry, but how do i add this pool repository? what's the deb address to add the repo into my list?
[05:11] <SeamusLP> atIantis I believe there is a deb on the official site.  That's the one I'm using
[05:11] <minnmass> robin: "sudo apt-get install xine" - aptitude is an interactive program, though you could also use it.
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> !shutthehellup | PriceChild
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutthehellup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> :p
[05:11] <nolimitsoya_> zi1, ask a specific question. theres close to 1000ppl in here, and we dont want to be flooded with ~500 'yes' or 'no'
[05:12] <un_operateur> naylor, as you can see, that link is pointing to the main repo -- it's already added for you
[05:12] <PriceChild> CaBlGuY, please just ask the question
[05:12] <zi1> ok
[05:12] <robin> i love apt
[05:12] <soothsay> Can anyone tell me how to toggle the behaviour of "less" so that the output of 'less' remains on the screen after quitting 'less'.
[05:12] <CaBlGuY> gues1:  don't ask to ask..  just ask your question...
[05:12] <minnmass> I love apt until it breaks.
[05:12] <PriceChild> CaBlGuY, anyone that knows the answer will reply
[05:12] <nolimitsoya_> !attitude | CaBlGuY
[05:12] <CaBlGuY> PriceChild:  I'm not asking idiot..
[05:12] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:12] <CaBlGuY> :|
[05:12] <un_operateur> robin, are you after the xine media player?
[05:12] <naylor> un_operateur, but just incase it's missing can i add it?
[05:12] <robin> thsis what happened when i typedv
[05:12] <paranoia16> on the lightscribe website, it mentions it doesn't support debian, but will alien make it compatable?
[05:12] <PriceChild> CaBlGuY, whoever you asked in particular earlier may not know the answer
[05:12] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> paranoia16 ,they provide a RPM i believe? so most prolly it "should" work ...
[05:12] <un_operateur> naylor, hold up
[05:13] <robin> aptitude-get: command not found
[05:13] <robin> robin@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install xine
[05:13] <robin> Reading package lists... Done
[05:13] <robin> Building dependency tree
[05:13] <robin> Reading state information... Done
[05:13] <PriceChild> CaBlGuY, and please watch the attitude
[05:13] <robin> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:13] <robin> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:13] <robin> is only available from another source
[05:13] <robin> E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[05:13] <nolimitsoya_> !paste | robin
[05:13] <ubotu> robin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:13] <PriceChild> !paste | robin
[05:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  paranoia16 ,link to the lightscribe site?
[05:13] <CaBlGuY> !blind PriceChild
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blind PriceChild - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <CaBlGuY> annnnyyway..
[05:13] <paranoia16> http://lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx
[05:13] <CaBlGuY> Thanks SeamusLP  o/
[05:13] <nolimitsoya_> !coc | CaBlGuY
[05:13] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:13] <un_operateur> naylor, here you go -- http://pastebin.ca/285071
[05:14] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  paranoia16 ,where does it say that it aint supportin Ubunut?
[05:14] <leobloom> hallo again, I have another problem actualy it's not really a problem just a curiosity, Ihave installed the ekiga and when I opened it I've seen i don't really want it (it's useless tome) but whenI closed it it asked me to send the bug report, now I'd like to unistall it, can i do it without any risk or should i better leave it there? can it depend on the huge amount of updates I've made today (more than 60 mb...)?
[05:14] <CaBlGuY> and eveyone else except SeamusLP can BLOW ME!   ;o)
[05:14] <minnmass> robin: try aptitude; "/<text>" will search for <text> - "/xine" will search for xine, and should find what you want to install.
[05:14] <paranoia16> http://lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx?id=814
[05:14] <paranoia16> Debian-based distributions such as Ubuntu are currently not supported.
[05:14] <dcordes> can i access the shared folders of a windows box with smb over the internet?
[05:14] <minnmass> robin: sudo aptitude
[05:14] <PriceChild> leobloom, you can just remove ekiga, don't worry about it
[05:15] <Blippe> The "Networking"-tool in gnome doesn't show any of the AP's i see with iwlist. Why is that?
[05:15] <un_operateur> robin, you probably wanted -- sudo aptitude install xine-ui
[05:15] <nolimitsoya_> leobloom, toremove software you can use 'sudo apt-get remove <software>'
[05:15] <zi1> im using gpsdrive an am going to zimbabwe on sat maps out there are rubbish so i am trying to user gpsfetchmap.pl with google maps but not having much joy can anyone help as time is important
[05:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  paranoia16 ,ahhh... i dont know what exactly they mean to say by that ....
[05:15] <PriceChild> leobloom, and don't worry about it wanting to uninstall "ubuntu-desktop" - that's just a metapackage needed to update from one distro to the next, e.g. dapper->edgy
[05:15] <leobloom> from the synaptic, right?
[05:15] <Trixsey> I'm running an ATI Radeon X700 Mobility and XGL.. I just installed the fglrx drivers but I keep falling back to mesa. Composite is disabled and I tried a whole lot of stuff like re-compiling fglrx. Tips? Anyone?
[05:15] <un_operateur> leobloom, that was from the command line
[05:15] <leobloom> ah perfect! thanks no limts
[05:16] <PriceChild> Trixsey, did no-one help you in #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl?
[05:16] <TehBigToe> er guys
[05:16] <PriceChild> hey TehBigToe
[05:16] <paranoia16> worth a shot, isn't it? but, if i install,, it doesn't work, how do i uninstall it? is just deleting the folder that it "lives" in safe?
[05:16] <TehBigToe> my PC is broked :(
[05:16] <minnmass> apt-get upgrade fails on coreutils.  Tips?
[05:16] <TehBigToe> already
[05:16] <PriceChild> minnmass, "sudo apt-get -f install" please, then try again
[05:16] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> urgent job... bbiab ...
[05:16] <TehBigToe> when I start up, grub loads and complains it can't find the splash screen
[05:16] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, how's it broken?
[05:17] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, doesn't is still boot?
[05:17] <robin> anyone lke music here
[05:17] <TehBigToe> that's alright though, because I deleted it
[05:17] <un_operateur> robin, dont we all?
[05:17] <SeamusLP> Trixsey: maybe you should post your xorg.conf somewhere, that would help people troubleshoot your problem
[05:17] <TehBigToe> so I press space bar
[05:17] <robin> anyone like trivium
[05:17] <TehBigToe> it says press any key to continue
[05:17] <robin> or avenged sevenfold
[05:17] <TehBigToe> and it says Press ESC to launch menu
[05:17] <un_operateur> robin, never heard of them
[05:17] <TehBigToe> then after that
[05:17] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> someone please takeover helping paranoia16  please ... it make take me a while :(
[05:17] <TehBigToe> it goes back to the BIOS screen
[05:17] <robin> hu u listen to
[05:18] <SeamusLP> !pastebin | Trixsey
[05:18] <ubotu> Trixsey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <leobloom> ok, I'm deleting it, hope I'm just deleting the software and nothing else that is important lol :D
[05:18] <zi1> im looking for someone who have use gpsfetchmap.pl in here
[05:18] <TehBigToe> and if I press esc to go to the grub menu and select any option
[05:18] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, do it again, but don't press Esc when it "suggests"
[05:18] <SeamusLP> this ubotu thing is pretty cool
[05:18] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: I didn't
[05:18] <zi1> some help would be great
[05:18] <minnmass> Pricechild: same error: `unable to make backup link of `./bin/ls` before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[05:18] <TehBigToe> recovery mode, norecovery mode, memtest
[05:18] <TehBigToe> it just goes back to the bios screen
[05:18] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, hmm ok... all of them?
[05:18] <TehBigToe> mhm
[05:19] <BlackHawk> hi
[05:19] <TehBigToe> I'm currently using gaim on the live CD :S
[05:19] <Trixsey>  I'm running an ATI Radeon X700 Mobility and XGL.. I just installed the fglrx drivers but I keep falling back to mesa. Composite is disabled and I tried a whole lot of stuff like re-compiling fglrx. Tips? Anyone? My xorg.conf: http://www.mathbin.net/2536
[05:19] <Trixsey> added the conf now :p
[05:19] <SeamusLP> zil: I'm not sure what that is, but if you're looking for help with a particular piece of software its better to find a forum or irc channel dedicated to it
[05:19] <leobloom> ist it noraml that on my terminal it says "uninstalling ubuntu-desktop" and then "ninstalling ekiga"?
[05:19] <robin> any one like windows aswll as ubuntu]
[05:19] <zi1> there is one person in there not talking
[05:20] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, what have you changed with the grub exactly?
[05:20] <compilerwriter> robin I prefer ubuntu for most things but am forced to use windows for some things
[05:20] <PriceChild> leobloom, that's normal... i already explained :)
[05:20] <un_operateur> leobloom, usually that shouldnt be a problem unless you need ekiga for something else -- you can always install it later
[05:20] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: nothing
[05:20] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, promise?
[05:20] <TehBigToe> promise
[05:20] <robin> at skl i am forced to use windoze
[05:21] <TehBigToe> it might be linked to the fact I had a power cut last night, so the PC didn't shut down properly :S
[05:21] <leobloom> and what about the big amountof updates? a guy on edubuntu chan told me it's normal since I've just installed ubuntu from the iso but I really dunno what I'm installing so I simply trust the things my pc ticks :D
[05:21] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, was it performing updates at hte time?
[05:21] <TehBigToe> nope
[05:21] <robin> NYONE USE CUBUNTU
[05:21] <SeamusLP> Trixsey: that config file looks good to me, maybe you could post your xorg log?
[05:21] <tuxub> what are the names of the kernels in edgy? i can't find a SMP kernel for my AMD 2x CPU :(
[05:21] <robin> my friend programmed it
[05:21] <PriceChild> leobloom, whatever version of ubuntu you have installed ,its been out for months... security updates etc .will be added
[05:22] <PriceChild> !anyone > robin
[05:22] <compilerwriter> robin to you mean Kubuntu?
[05:22] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: I think I broke my file system
[05:22] <TehBigToe> when I try to access it in the live cd
[05:22] <robin> no
[05:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, can you mount it in the live cd?
[05:22] <Trixsey> SeamusLP, where is the xorg log?
[05:22] <TehBigToe> error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable error: could not execute pmount
[05:22] <robin> a command line ubuntu callec ubuntu
[05:22] <TehBigToe> no PriceChild, ^
[05:22] <robin> cubuntu*
[05:22] <bretzel> hi there, I have Intel 945GM, xorg.conf + beryl ok but:"libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b" from beryl and bzflag game... ? any clue ?
[05:22] <leobloom> oh perfect, so as long as I instal the security updates and the reccomended ones I'll have no crashes? I really dunno how to deal with stuff like that on linux yet, I've had it only for 2 days :D (and I adore it :D )
[05:23] <SeamusLP> tuxub: I think the default kernel has SMP support
[05:23] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, sudo mkdir /media/tmp && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/tmp
[05:23] <robin> beryl works fine for me and i have that intel
[05:23] <PriceChild> leobloom, hopefully :)
[05:23] <naylor_> un_operateur, hi added those in manually but it still won't update f-spot to 0.3, if i get deb file directly then dependencies not met.. i'm confused, how come this is not available in synaptics if it's in repos?
[05:23] <SeamusLP> Trixsey /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:23] <compilerwriter> Never tried Cubuntu robin
[05:23] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild
[05:23] <PriceChild> leobloom, whenever there are updates, it'll tell you in your notification area top right with a orange square
[05:23] <tuxub> SeamusLP, model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+  only one...
[05:23] <bretzel> robin, for me too but bzflag runs as if there is no accel ( unplayable)
[05:23] <un_operateur> naylor, you need to do these before you can use those repos --- sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade"
[05:24] <leobloom> yep exactly, I've had it today, double clicked and the synaptic started
[05:24] <SeamusLP> tuxub do cat /proc/cpuinfo | less and see how many processors it shows
[05:24] <tuxub> SeamusLP, already did that : one
[05:24] <robin> can someone give me a link or a dvd decoder for ubuntu/totem
[05:24] <SeamusLP> tuxub are you running dapper or edgy?
[05:24] <tuxub> SeamusLP, edgy (dist-upgraded from dapper)
[05:25] <robin> feisty
[05:25] <PriceChild> !codecs | robin
[05:25] <ubotu> robin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: /me waits
[05:25] <un_operateur> !css
[05:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:25] <SeamusLP> tuxub did you have smp support in dapper?
[05:25] <PriceChild> what'd it tell you TehBigToe ?
[05:25] <PriceChild> un_operateur, even better :)
[05:25] <TehBigToe> ok
[05:25] <tuxub> SeamusLP, i installed this linux-k7-smp and got 2 cpus... but no grahpics because my nvidia driver is for the edgy kernel
[05:25] <un_operateur> PriceChild, :)
[05:25] <tuxub> SeamusLP, yes...
[05:25] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: it did nothing for about 20 secs
[05:26] <robin> come someone else apart from ubotu help me with dvd decoding on totem
[05:26] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, then...?
[05:26] <nolimitsoya_> tuxub, the generic kernel has smp support
[05:26] <mattl> jono: getting much traffic from digg?
[05:26] <leobloom> might I ruin something if I instal the easyubuntu package?
[05:26] <SeamusLP> tuxub yeah I think you need to switch to the generic edgy kernel
[05:26] <TehBigToe> then it gave me the user@thing again
[05:26] <bretzel> robin: automatix(2)
[05:26] <robin> DVD DECODING PLZ!
[05:26] <tuxub> SeamusLP, what is its name?
[05:26] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, cd /media/tmp && ls
[05:26] <TehBigToe> ok
[05:26] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, actually...
[05:26] <nolimitsoya_> !automatix | robin bretzel
[05:26] <ubotu> robin bretzel: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:26] <robin> how do i get automatix 2
[05:26] <jono> mattl: you could say that, the server is getting hammered :P
[05:26] <tuxub> v   linux-image <-- this ?
[05:26] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, cd /media/tmp/home/<<whatever your username is>> && ls
[05:26] <userek> I want to disable cupsys service, is `update-rc.d -f cupsys remove` a proper way to do it?
[05:27] <SeamusLP> tuxub http://www.mathbin.net/2536
[05:27] <SeamusLP> tuxub err
[05:27] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: looks ok
[05:27] <nolimitsoya_> robin, please. i gave you a link before that would have sorted you out. follow links when you get them, stup whining and stop SHOUTING
[05:27] <mattl> jono: i'll host your site, but only if you renounce your proprietary drivers! ;)
[05:27] <SeamusLP> tuxub linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:27] <nolimitsoya_> *stop
[05:27] <bretzel> robin: automatix didnot breaks anything yet for me since dapper
[05:27] <userek> uhm, anyone?
[05:27] <nolimitsoya_> !worksforme | bretzel
[05:27] <ubotu> bretzel: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:27] <robin> can u give me the  command to install it
[05:27] <jono> mattl: heh, I just added a comment in which you were mentioned
[05:27] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, if you can see your files? then nothing's too broken :)
[05:27] <mattl> oh god.
[05:28] <nolimitsoya_> bretzel, weve already had this conversation once in here today, and im not up for it again
[05:28] <tuxub> SeamusLP, already installed... i think its the one I have installed Linux maia 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:28] <naylor_> un_operateur, is there no way to add the pool as a repo?
[05:28] <userek> is this question too dificulit or what
[05:28] <bretzel> robin: but dunnot forget to restore repos before exiting automatix -- for dvd codecs, use automatix... not for all tho
[05:28] <leobloom> ehm nobody answered i suppose there will be no problem if I install the easyubuntu then right?
[05:28] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, you may like to try "sudo umount /dev/hda1 && sudo fsck /dev/hda1" to check the partition
[05:28] <TehBigToe> ok
[05:28] <userek> TehBigToe if /dev/hda1 is your / it won't work
[05:28] <nolimitsoya_> leobloom, shouldnt be, no. but imho its better to know what you are doing instead or running scripts you dont understand
[05:29] <mattl> jono: okay, i can't handle that. you know someone told me i should kill myself yesterday because the fsf has a campaign against Vista?
[05:29] <astronaute> hello
[05:29] <SeamusLP> tuxub well the generic kernel does have smp support, you just need to make it the default kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:29] <tuxub> SeamusLP, i think its the dapper 2 edgy upgrade fault... (passed from 3/4 failure to 4/4 failure) :(
[05:29] <mattl> jono: can handle that.
[05:29] <naylor_> un_operateur, it says dependency i need is libc6
[05:29] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: seems i had to cd / first :P
[05:29] <TehBigToe> but yeah
[05:29] <tuxub> SeamusLP, Its the running kernel (i ran uname -a)
[05:29] <TehBigToe> fsck said it was clean
[05:29] <robin> ik have a p2 in my loft lol
[05:29] <un_operateur> naylor, the pool is added as a repo if you ran the command i gave you last
[05:29] <mpan> i use following command to backup system but sometimes it is not working. the command is 'mondoarchive -Or -F -e -s 4380m -d /dev/dvd' and error messages are glibc detected.. double free or corruption and segmentation fault. gui of mondo has similar problems.
[05:29] <astronaute> can someone tell me if its possible to isntall ubunto on intel core 2 duo MB : Asus P5W DH Deluxe
[05:29] <leobloom> nolimits if I had to understand what I'm doing I think i'd have never scwitched to ubuntu and linux lol :D
[05:29] <mpan> distribution is ubuntu 6.06
[05:29] <astronaute> i have errors on live cd boot, tested with 386 and amd64
[05:29] <un_operateur> naylor, yea, you need that package for quite a few others too -- might as well install it
[05:29] <mpan> do you have similar problems?
[05:30] <SeamusLP> tuxub and it only shows one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo?
[05:30] <nolimitsoya_> leobloom, thats why we have the capability to learn :) learn what it is you need and install it, instead of letting a script do it for you
[05:30] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, hmm ok... could you remount it with the command earlier, then pastebin your /media/tmp/boot/grub/menu.lst to check that's correct
[05:30] <astronaute> please guys, anyone run ubunto on core 2 duo ???
[05:30] <naylor_> un_operateur, sorry my nick changed and i didn't see, i'll check out what you put
[05:30] <PriceChild> !anyone > astronaute
[05:31] <un_operateur> naylor_, you need to do these before you can use those repos --- sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade"
[05:31] <SeamusLP> !anyone | astronaute
[05:31] <tuxub> SeamusLP, yes
[05:31] <ubotu> astronaute: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:31] <un_operateur> naylor, that was the command i posted laste
[05:31] <astronaute> great, but i asked a question actually =)))
[05:31] <robin> i installed automatix and vd still doesnt play on totem
[05:31] <astronaute> here my error : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=634215
[05:31] <astronaute> and hardware
[05:31] <robin> and i can open automatix if its a program
[05:31] <nolimitsoya_> robin, you arent paying the least bit of attention are you?
[05:31] <astronaute> if someone can take a look on error please i dont know what to do
[05:32] <robin> no!
[05:32] <MenZa> I often get "E: Unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?" even when I'm not using it. Why, and how do I stop it?
[05:32] <MenZa> killall dpg?
[05:32] <MenZa> dkpg*
[05:32] <robin> i o to another window and  when i come bk peoples things have gone
[05:32] <astronaute> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=652419#p652419
[05:32] <astronaute> this one especialy
[05:32] <un_operateur> MenZa, you probably need to run the command as sudo ??? :)
[05:32] <naylor_> un_operateur, it's still not updating it - it's giving me this: http://pastebin.ca/285092
[05:32] <leobloom> ok, you know what? I won't instal it, all in al I don't need it yet =o)
[05:32] <nolimitsoya_> MenZa, are you trying to run two instances of apt/ynaptic/aptitude at the same time?
[05:33] <astronaute> or if it is not posssible to install it just tell me i will switch to windows meanwhile waiting for ubuntu to be compatible
[05:33] <nolimitsoya_> *synaptic
[05:33] <robin> can some dud actually send me a command thgat actually makes dvd's decoded on totem
[05:33] <SeamusLP> tuxub I'm not sure what the deal is, sorry
[05:33] <radar1976_alt> hello
[05:33] <radar1976_alt> can you read this?
[05:33] <PriceChild> !css | robin
[05:33] <ubotu> robin: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:33] <nolimitsoya_> robin, i did. several times. scroll back and take advice not to waste peoples time
[05:33] <PriceChild> radar1976, hello
[05:34] <tuxub> SeamusLP, thanks anyway
[05:34] <MenZa> no radar1976_alt
[05:34] <un_operateur> naylor, it's definitely likely that f-spot at that version has not made it into the Edgy packages -- your only alternative is to instlal the new version manually
[05:34] <radar1976_alt> hmmm thanks
[05:34] <leobloom> can I ask something rahter weird?
[05:34] <MenZa> nolimitsoya_: I start aptitude, but close it when I realise I typed the packagename wrong
[05:34] <PriceChild> leobloom, go for it
[05:34] <astronaute> so noone runs ubuntu on core 2 duo intel here ?? possible / not possible plz guys =)
[05:34] <PriceChild> !anyone | astronaute
[05:34] <ubotu> astronaute: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:34] <lester_> gnomefreak, no result after changing xorg.conf settings
[05:35] <naylor_> un_operateur, i downloaded the deb file you gave me the link for but it says it needs libc6, can i download a deb of this from anywhere?
[05:35] <jordo23> Does EDGY have built in support for sound blasters?
[05:35] <FernandoCordes> is there an irc client which is able to take up dcc advertisements?
[05:35] <nolimitsoya_> astronaute, what your problem? ask that instead
[05:35] <astronaute> PriceChild go wank plz =)
[05:35] <computermc> does anyone know of a mysql admin program that I can use, since the mysql-admin crashes each time you try to change user information?
[05:35] <PriceChild> ping apokryphos
[05:35] <nolimitsoya_> !attitude | astronaute
[05:35] <ubotu> astronaute: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:35] <apokryphos> PriceChild: hi
[05:35] <computermc> looking for one that is open source
[05:35] <computermc> that has a GUI
[05:35] <un_operateur> naylor_, you should be able to -- sudo aptitude install libc6
[05:35] <DjViper> computermc: open office ?
[05:35] <leobloom> I have two os on my pc now ubuntu on one hd and winxp trial on the other, my modem drivers are on the winxp but it'll stop working in 25 days so well, what will happen to my connection? I haven't been able to find a way to install the modem drivers of my adsl modem on linux ubuntu won't even open the exe to install them =o/
[05:36] <computermc> DjViper: for mysql databases?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> lester_: i would wait for someone more experienced in beryl/xgl to help
[05:36] <PriceChild> leobloom, what adsl modem is it?
[05:36] <lester_> gnomefreak, ok
[05:36] <PriceChild> leobloom, is it a usb one?
[05:36] <DjViper> computermc: yup
[05:36] <leobloom> don't remeber the name let me check if they say it on the package
[05:36] <naylor_> un_operateur, that doesn't install it just gives me this: http://pastebin.ca/285096
[05:36] <leobloom> *mi tesi
[05:37] <robin> this command didnt work after i installed libdvd3
[05:37] <mralphabet> leobloom: how does your computer physically connect to the modem?
[05:37] <leobloom> cge libro ?
[05:37] <robin> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:37] <DjViper> computermc: if you're running apache+php and are only doing basic stuff you could use phpmyadmin
[05:37] <radar1976_alt> I'm having a problem with my synaptics touchpad  log output here... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37916/  any ideas?
[05:37] <mralphabet> leobloom: usb? ethernet?
[05:37] <SeamusLP> leobloom: usually you can use an ethernet cable to plug into your modem, no extra drivers required
[05:37] <leobloom> via ethernet, and I used the sudo pppoe conf command to use the connection on linux
[05:37] <computermc> DjViper: can you change the user information with phpmyadmin?
[05:37] <robin> would there be aby reason y sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:37] <robin> wouldnt work
[05:37] <computermc> like passwords
[05:37] <DjViper> computermc: hmm yes
[05:37] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: copying single "pages" from nano is tedious, how do you view the whole file in the terminal?
[05:38] <un_operateur> naylor_, can you tell me what this returns  -- dpkg -l | grep -i libc6
[05:38] <PriceChild> leobloom, if its ethernet, then you shouldn't need any "rubbish software" they make you think they need
[05:38] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, cat <filename>
[05:38] <TehBigToe> ah, thanks
[05:38] <robin> can anyone help me
[05:38] <DjViper> computermc: you can do most things, its just not practical for most things, like inserting large amounts of data
[05:38] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37918/
[05:38] <leobloom> sure? so I could techinically also erase winXP without any problem?
[05:38] <naylor_> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/285098
[05:38] <minnmass> TehBigToe: also, less <filename> - you can scroll a bit more easily.
[05:39] <robin> anyone???
[05:39] <robin> lkuhygipyu
[05:39] <robin> sdef
[05:39] <robin> sergv
[05:39] <robin> resg
[05:39] <robin> g
[05:39] <robin> eragv
[05:39] <radar1976_alt> I shrunk the output
[05:39] <robin> geRvdrse
[05:39] <robin> G
[05:39] <SeamusLP> hey, get off the crack man
[05:39] <radar1976_alt> robin: please stop
[05:39] <robin> well no ones helping me
[05:39] <jrib> !patience | robin
[05:39] <radar1976_alt> so, wait
[05:39] <ubotu> robin: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:39] <robin> i installed
[05:39] <radar1976_alt> I have to
[05:39] <fkumro> robin, no ones going to help you when you act like your 10
[05:39] <minnmass> leobloom: if you erase winXP, you won't be able to boot into winXP.
[05:39] <robin> libdvd3
[05:39] <robin> on synaptic
[05:39] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, it looks alright...
[05:39] <jrib> !enter | robin
[05:39] <ubotu> robin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:39] <radar1976_alt> robin: one line please
[05:39] <robin> the typed this in terminal
[05:40] <robin> vsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:40] <robin> and it diudnt work
[05:40] <computermc> DjViper: is phpmyadmin a secure way to change user setting under the root acount?
[05:40] <radar1976_alt> !kick robin
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick robin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <computermc> If I use ssl?
[05:40] <un_operateur> naylor_, ok, i could suggest something radical -- but first -- is there a specific reason you want f-spot at version 0.3.0 ??
[05:40] <PriceChild> robin: Yeah i found problems with the wiki guide on edgy actually.
[05:40] <SeamusLP> leobloom if you get to a point where you're comfortable in ubuntu you could reinstall using the entire hard drive.  I don't run windows on my boxes.
[05:40] <DjViper> computermc: that depends on if your apache server and/or that dir where it resides is safe
[05:40] <cbx33> howz it going leobloom
[05:40] <FernandoCordes> is there a good irc client special for xdcc client purposes?
[05:40] <PriceChild> robin: please download the deb via the manual method which is documented on that wiki page
[05:41] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, that looks fine....
[05:41] <computermc> DjViper: ok thanks
[05:41] <DanaG> argh, the Linux kernel has some ACPI Video Notify codes defined INCORRECTLY!
[05:41] <robin> guss whos bk
[05:41] <apokryphos> !patience | robin
[05:41] <ubotu> robin: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:41] <jrib> !seveas | robin
[05:41] <ubotu> robin: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:41] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: :S
[05:41] <DanaG> Thus, my brightness control does not work.
[05:41] <cbx33> guys I was goign to do a short screencast on usign the terminal for n00bs - anyone got any suggestions for BASIC concepts
[05:41] <kane77> hi
[05:41] <jrib> robin: seveas' repositories has debs for libdvdcss, use them instead
[05:41] <naylor_> un_operateur, it's just little things like tagging photos etc you can drag and it'll move to tag without having to use scrollbars etc first. i set it up for my dad who is not too good on computers and 0.3 is easier to use
[05:41] <leobloom> but I think I won't need winxp amnymore and all in all the trial i have will be over in january so I either reinstall it for one month or simply erase it all and use the other hd as a skave hd for ubuntu
[05:41] <kane77> why do I always get a message saying that HAL failed to hibrenate??
[05:41] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, what _exactly_ did you change
[05:41] <cbx33> leobloom, best i dea in my opinion
[05:41] <lester_> gnomefreak, i'm not seeing the nvidia splash either.. does this mean that the driver isn't loaded correctly?
[05:41] <DanaG> so...... what can I do to fix it?
[05:42] <narvik86> cbx33: cd, ls, sudo, dpkg,
[05:42] <Invisible_> how do i edit files with vi editor?
[05:42] <cbx33> top
[05:42] <cbx33> vi
[05:42] <cbx33> ;)
[05:42] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: nothing!
[05:42] <cbx33> Invisible_, use nano
[05:42] <Invisible_> to insert any values i need hit Inser or I
[05:42] <Invisible_> but its not happening
[05:42] <narvik86> cbx33: mcedit is easier if you have mc installed :)
[05:42] <jrib> Invisible_: vi /path/to/file     run 'vimtutor' for a quick tutorial
[05:42] <cbx33> it's easier for people new to the command line
[05:42] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, ok then we'll need to reinstall grub i think
[05:42] <DjViper> vi sux
[05:42] <TehBigToe> :/
[05:42] <jrib> Invisible_: if you are just interested in editing a file and don't want to learn to use vi, use nano
[05:42] <cbx33> vi is cool - but nano is easier for a lot of things
[05:42] <DjViper> Invisible_: use gedit if gnome is running
[05:42] <TehBigToe> that sounds like hard
[05:43] <naylor_> un_operateur, why is it libc6 isn't spotted? why do we need to be radical? is it anything to do with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-196988.html
[05:43] <un_operateur> naylor, hmm, well -- you could upgrade to feisty and those packages will become available -- or you have to manually download an install f-spot, lic6 and all it's deps , and they are quite numerous
[05:43] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, not at all :)
[05:43] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, one second
[05:43] <TehBigToe> ok
[05:43] <SeamusLP> cbx33: I recommend going over mv, cp, pwd, ls, cat, find, grep, locate
[05:43] <radar1976_alt> did anyone see my log, any ideas?
[05:43] <Invisible_> i do not have gui
[05:43] <Wooksta> i get this error "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[05:43] <Wooksta> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[05:43] <Wooksta> " when i do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html , can anyone help?
[05:43] <radar1976_alt> I have edgy
[05:43] <Invisible_> just command line
[05:43] <jrib> !paste | Wooksta
[05:43] <ubotu> Wooksta: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub
[05:43] <Wooksta> sorry forgot to remove the new lines :<
[05:43] <SeamusLP> cbx33: redirection of standard input and output is a must in any command line crash course
[05:43] <cbx33> SeamusLP, thanks
[05:43] <cbx33> will do
[05:43] <jrib> Wooksta: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:43] <Wooksta> edgy
[05:44] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild thanks
[05:44] <un_operateur> naylor_, ok, -- here's the first utility you need -- sudo aptitude install apt-cache
[05:44] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, you want to install to hda1 - otherwise known as (hd0,0)
[05:44] <naylor_> un_operateur, what's this for? i don't really wanna update to feisty...
[05:44] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: I'm already stuck
[05:44] <Wooksta> i had the same problem when i was in 64bit and DBO managed to fix it but i cant remember what the first step is :<
[05:44] <TehBigToe> :z
[05:44] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, what's up?
[05:45] <TehBigToe> oh
[05:45] <jrib> Wooksta: do you have the linux restricted modules for your kernel?
[05:45] <TehBigToe> wait
[05:45] <TehBigToe> it said a bracket
[05:45] <PriceChild> :)
[05:45] <TehBigToe> never mind
[05:45] <radar1976_alt> is feisty the new ubuntu coming up
[05:45] <jrib> !feisty | radar1976_alt
[05:45] <ubotu> radar1976_alt: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:45] <apokryphos> radar1976: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[05:45] <un_operateur> naylor_, thats a tool to give you info about packages and their locations within the repositories
[05:45] <radar1976_alt> cool thats all I needed to know
[05:46] <TehBigToe> PriceChild: see ya... in ubuntu proper I hope :P
[05:46] <Jonn`> Good morning
[05:46] <un_operateur> naylor_, I'm not getting you to upgrade to fiesty -- i'd rather you install manually
[05:46] <naylor_> un_operateur, so are we updating f-spot here then?
[05:46] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, good luck :)
[05:46] <un_operateur> naylor_, yes
[05:47] <Wooksta> jrib as far as i know yes (in Synaptic pm i have "Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 generic" installed
[05:47] <naylor_> un_operateur, ok done that then
[05:47] <Jonn`> I need help here. Im trying to move a folder to my external HDD but apparently Ubuntu cant write in NTFS
[05:47] <jrib> Wooksta: what does uname -r say?
[05:47] <un_operateur> naylor_, ok, one sec
[05:47] <Wooksta> 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Jonn`, you have to install a package that will allow you to write to NTFS, by default ubuntu can only read to it
[05:47] <YnG> hi
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> !ntfs << Jonn`
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs << Jonn` - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <YnG> i need help please
[05:47] <naylor_> un_operateur, thanks for this help
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> !ntfs >> Jonn`
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <jrib> Wooksta: I think the command is  just  'nvidia xconfig' now
[05:48] <jrib> Wooksta: I think the command is  just  'nvidia-xconfig' now
[05:48] <YnG> can someone here helpe me on ubuntu ?
[05:48] <Jonn`> So, any recommendation?
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> !ntfs | Jonn`
[05:48] <ubotu> Jonn`: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:48] <Wooksta> ok i'll try it
[05:48] <YnG> Wooksta: can help-me ? :D
[05:48] <Jonn`> I personally wouldnt want to reformat the HDD =( I have too much music there
[05:48] <leobloom> does any of you know an OS called link? I've checked the website of my provider, I suppose they meant linux and that's just a typo
[05:48] <Wooksta> brb
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Jonn`, that
[05:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Jonn`, that's fine...  there is a package (looking for it now) that will allow you to write to NTFS w/o formatting
[05:49] <YnG> its possible install wine on linux ubuntu? i installing, but i have a error
[05:49] <Jonn`> nice, I really appreciate your help =)
[05:49] <PriceChild> YnG, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:49] <YnG> PriceChild: yea, but this faild because need some files
[05:49] <YnG> *fail
[05:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Jonn`, the package i was trying to think of is called:    libntfs-3g0  (that's a zero, not an O)
[05:50] <PriceChild> Jonn`, FunnyLookinHat, please be aware that its still unstable and may cause dataloss in rare events
[05:50] <killermach> I need to patch the i810 video driver, any hints on how to do this on ubuntu??
[05:50] <BigToe> thanks PriceChild :D
[05:50] <FunnyLookinHat> PriceChild, right, good point.
[05:50] <PriceChild> BigToe, working?
[05:50] <TehBigToe> seems to be :P
[05:50] <PriceChild> YnG, at what point?
[05:50] <mrlinux> how do i mount a cdrom drive on a client machine  i am using LTSP
[05:50] <un_operateur> naylor_, can you bear with me a couple of minutes -- theres something i need to do ?
[05:50] <Jonn`> alright alright.
[05:50] <Jonn`> I will have to try it anyway...
[05:51] <naylor_> un_operateur, ok sure - i'll just go to bathroom!
[05:51] <TehBigToe> I'll stick around... knowing me I'll have lots more problems for you to sort out :P
[05:51] <FunnyLookinHat> Jonn`, he is correct, it is technically not  a stable solution yet, although the company that makes it will say elsewise...   I would check ubuntuforums.og to see if anyone else has installed it and used it , you may just have to install the package & reboot or more configuration may be required
[05:51] <YnG> PriceChild: i'll back later, thanxs
[05:51] <Jonn`> alright
[05:51] <The> hey
[05:51] <The> i'm new to this
[05:51] <mrlinux> how do i mount a cdrom drive on a client machine  i am using LTSP
[05:51] <Jonn`> I started to check in the community documentations but i didnt have much luck
[05:51] <minnmass> coreutils won't update; breaks apt-get and aptitude.  Tips?
[05:51] <PriceChild> FunnyLookinHat, Jonn`, it is VERY unlikely you will lose data... there has been extensive testing on it... but i'm still warning you :)
[05:51] <The> is anyone using chatzilla out ther?
[05:51] <suckamc> whats is the open source project called for the altenative to flash?
[05:51] <Jonn`> hehe, thanks.
[05:51] <robin>  irc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-uk
[05:51] <jrib> suckamc: gnash
[05:51] <killermach> I need to recompile the i810.x.o driver to work-a-round a broken gateway bios
[05:51] <stonarmusic> anyone know if it safe to write to xp shares yet? is there still a chance of corruption?
[05:51] <PriceChild> suckamc, isn't it gnash?
[05:51] <leobloom> ffshow maybe?
[05:52] <The> anyone using chatzilla?
[05:52] <suckamc> thanks
[05:52] <PriceChild> stonarmusic, as in ntfs?
[05:52] <suckamc> Pricechild: think so, just couldn't remember the name.
[05:52] <PriceChild> !gnash
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <suckamc> yup. thats it
[05:52] <stonarmusic> Pricechild whatever WIN XP is, i think thats it
[05:52] <mrlinux> !LTSP
[05:52] <suckamc> thanks guys
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LTSP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <mrlinux> !ltsp
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <FunnyLookinHat> stonarmusic, if you are writing via samba over a network, it works fine...  if you are talking about writing to an NTFS partition on the same computer...  yo ucan try libnfts-3g0      it's technically unstable but most people have had a lot of luck with it

[05:53] <neuratix> !ati
[05:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <DanaG> ntfs-3g works for me as long as I don't force.
[05:53] <robin> hey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey heyhey hey hey
[05:53] <stonarmusic> FunnyLookinHat - yeah it's my roomies xp share
[05:53] <DanaG> And you can NOT write to compressed NTFS.
[05:54] <naylor_> un_operateur, ok i'm back... let me know when ready
[05:54] <DanaG> Oh, wait, if it's a share, then it's networked?
[05:54] <PriceChild> robin please don't
[05:54] <DanaG> That's just samba.
[05:54] <robin> ban/danag
[05:54] <PriceChild> DanaG,  correct
[05:54] <TehBigToe> ban robin already :?
[05:54] <stonarmusic> DanaG - yes, samba share
[05:54] <PriceChild> TehBigToe, one more chance
[05:54] <robin> noooo
[05:54] <Jonn`> ugh, cant find libntfs-3g0
[05:54] <Jonn`> brb
[05:54] <robin> robin is only 13
[05:54] <DanaG> aah, then the fact that it's NTFS is irrelevant as long as the host is using NT/2K/XP
[05:55] <PriceChild> jonathaN, you may need to enable extra repositories
[05:55] <PriceChild> DanaG, correct
[05:55] <robin> he has much more to live for
[05:55] <nolimitsoya_> apokryphos, please dosomething about this robin
[05:55] <stonarmusic> thanks all!
[05:55] <robin> something bout wt
[05:55] <TehBigToe> so am I robin, I was 12 until last month, so shh :P
[05:55] <robin> yey
[05:55] <robin> im in year 9 though
[05:55] <DanaG> hooray for speaking about yourself in the third person -- NOT.
[05:55] <TehBigToe> im in year 8
[05:55] <TehBigToe> hacker
[05:55] <TehBigToe> D:
[05:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[05:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:56] <robin> haha
[05:56] <TehBigToe> yeah

[05:56] <stonarmusic> I'm 21h.
[05:56] <robin> i live in welwyn garten city herts
[05:56] <leobloom> another question (I habve many, I know sorry!!) can you tell me how come I can't install cinepaint?
[05:56] <minnmass> What error do you get?
[05:56] <PriceChild> leobloom, please pastebin the error when you try
[05:56] <leobloom> i says it'd conflict with somethign already installed but I have nothing liek that I think
[05:56] <strabes> leobloom: try using aptitude instead of apt-get
[05:56] <apokryphos> nolimitsoya_: thanks
[05:57] <stonarmusic> 21 hex
[05:57] <strabes> leobloom: and if that doesn't work, we have some problems
[05:57] <DanaG> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[05:57] <nolimitsoya_> thank you in return, apokryphos :)
[05:57] <strabes> DanaG: it has super dependency hell powers though
[05:57] <PriceChild> DanaG, check your code...
[05:57] <PriceChild> DanaG, you've written something wrong somewhere
[05:58] <TehBigToe> hey
[05:58] <Maziar> hey
[05:58] <DanaG> now I've forgotten what you're referring to.
[05:58] <TehBigToe> wait a minute, I live like right next to robin
[05:58] <TehBigToe> :S
[05:58] <TehBigToe> brb
[05:58] <Maziar> does anyone know what is the minimum hard disk space required for installing ubuntu 6.10?
[05:58] <PriceChild> Maziar, a couple of Gb
[05:58] <un_operateur> naylor_, you there?
[05:58] <TehBigToe> 55gb
[05:59] <nolimitsoya_> Maziar, using what configuration?
[05:59] <TehBigToe> 6.06 is 2gb according to the shipit CDs
[05:59] <TehBigToe> 2gb min
[05:59] <DanaG> Google search for 'Linux acpi video brightness' -- the second link from the bottom, about the Dell, is the relevant one.
[05:59] <leobloom> ok can I post the thing it says  that is not satisfied?
[05:59] <Wooksta> jrib got it all working now, thanks :)
[05:59] <DanaG> I have my Edgy on just 10 gigs.
[05:59] <DanaG> Often it helps to just sudo aptitude
[05:59] <DanaG> with no parameters.
[05:59] <jrib> Wooksta: np, may want to file a bug on those docs if there isn't one already
[05:59] <DanaG> It brings up an ncurses interface.
[06:00] <Wooksta> jrib ok will do :)
[06:00] <PriceChild> !paste > leobloom
[06:00] <leobloom> I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
[06:00] <leobloom>   cinepaint: Dipende: libgutenprintui1-1 (>= 5.0.0~rc2) ma non  installabile
[06:00] <leobloom> E: Pacchetto non integro
[06:01] <leobloom> ehm for those of you who don't know Italian it says that the libgutenprintuil is not installable coz it's not complete
[06:01] <jrib> leobloom: what version of ubuntu? what are you trying to install? Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[06:01] <leobloom> I'm using ubuntu 6.10 and have no idea how to post that list you've asked me sorry =o/
[06:01] <leobloom> I?m trying to install cinepaint
[06:02] <LjL> !info cinepaint
[06:02] <ubotu> cinepaint: motion picture image painting and retouching tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20-1-2 (edgy), package size 1125 kB, installed size 3000 kB
[06:02] <LjL> !info libgutenprintui1-1
[06:02] <ubotu> Package libgutenprintui1-1 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:02] <jrib> leobloom: type 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal then copy and paste into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, then give us a url
[06:02] <LjL> leobloom, did you install from a third-party package?
[06:02] <naylor_> un_operateur, yo
[06:02] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i stop open applications that are on different desktops in kde show up only on the task bar of that desktop
[06:03] <naylor_> un_operateur, sorry went out the room for a bit
[06:03] <naylor_> un_operateur, ready when you are...
[06:03] <minnmass> can't apt-get upgrade coreutils or aptitude-upgrade them.  Help, please.
[06:03] <LjL> Paddy_EIRE: right click on the taskbar, "configure". it's right there
[06:03] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: #kubuntu
[06:04] <blue\\> Im having problems installing latest ATI drivers.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37923/
[06:04] <jrib> minnmass: pastebin your errors and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <aanhorn> hi, can anyone help me with adding new screen resolutions to ubuntu 6.10?
[06:04] <malt1> anyone know any host that offers free smtp thats not port 25 and no ssl?
[06:04] <jrib> !fixres | aanhorn
[06:04] <ubotu> aanhorn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <un_operateur> naylor_, ok,  -- here's the search page for packages -- http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/base/libc6
[06:05] <aanhorn> thanks, ubotu, i'll take a look
[06:05] <minnmass> !pastbin
[06:05] <naylor_> un_operateur, ok cool what do i do?
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <minnmass> !pastebin
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:05] <leobloom> sorry guys but the geidt/etc/apt/sources.list doesn't work, should I write the sudo before or what?
[06:05] <DanaG> Damn emu<10k1> doesn't support suspend.  Perhaps I should replace it with a llama.
[06:05] <jrib> leobloom: no, you made a typo
[06:05] <stefg> leobloom, try it with correct spelling :-)
[06:05] <naylor_> un_operateur, ok getting libc6 or whatever now
[06:05] <Wooksta> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-automatix2-in-ubuntukubuntuxubuntu.html  <--- im following this tutorial to try and install Automatix2 on edgy but im having problems with the gpg-import and export lines, can anyone help?
[06:06] <strabes> blue\\: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:06] <un_operateur> naylor_, basically, I've started you off with libc6 there -- download the file (link at the bottom of that page -- I386) .. download it and try and install via -- sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[06:06] <lmosher> Is there a wireless network program that I can get that will detect and connect to a set of ESSID's? I.E. so that if I go to work and home it will automatically connect to whichever network it finds?? It's annoying to switch and in Windows it works just fine.
[06:06] <jrib> Wooksta: join #automatix for help with automatix
[06:06] <DanaG> network-manager-gnome
[06:06] <Wooksta> ok
[06:06] <leobloom>  gedit/etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <leobloom> ? it doesn't work =o/
[06:06] <strabes> blue\\: I believe your card supports the open source ati driver. try it out
[06:06] <jrib> leobloom: space after "gedit"
[06:06] <un_operateur> naylor_, if libc6 complains about missing deps .. search for them -- download, install, etc -- repeat the process
[06:07] <un_operateur> leobloom, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <DanaG> and here's a tip: NEVER EVER REMOVE libc6.
[06:07] <DanaG> I made that mistake once, and not even a chroot could fix it.
[06:07] <blue\\> strabes: i will. thanks for the tip
[06:07] <un_operateur> DanaG, I dont think you can even if you wanted to -- its one of the most vital packages
[06:08] <DanaG> (dpkg with --force-<anything> can be very dangerous, as I found out.)
[06:08] <pike_> Wooksta: isnt automatix a script to make installing things easier? if its hard to install whats the point? just use wiki
[06:08] <blue\\> strabes: uh - acctually i wont be able to use that driver :'(
[06:08] <minnmass> jrbi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37925/
[06:08] <DanaG> Right now I have the Feisty repos enabled, but set to zero priority in /etc/apt/preferences.
[06:08] <strabes> pike_ Wooksta: it's not hard to install - it's four commands www.getautomatix.com
[06:08] <DanaG> I just installed the new NVIDIA drivers from there.
[06:08] <leobloom> thanks ok I'vedone it =o)
[06:09] <MarcN> syncing to my palm pilot (z22) via USB is flakey.  Lately 2 or 3 copies of gnome-pilot-control pops up when I connect the pilot.  Also usb subsystem seems do die the second time the device is plugged in:   [17186357.436000]  8:1:1: usb_set_interface failed, [17186700.024000]  usb 4-4.2.3: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 70, [17186703.112000]  usb 4-4.2.3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 sort of errors in messages.  How to cle
[06:09] <leobloom> the link is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37926/
[06:09] <un_operateur> DanaG,  apt-cache rdepends libc6 | wc -l : 9987    --  thats basically every package on my system depending on it
[06:09] <xenonn31> hello, i want to write ntfs , I have installed ntfs-3g, what should i do now ?
[06:09] <strabes> blue\\: then you'll have to use fglrx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:09] <strabes> xenonn31: is the ntfs drive mounted?
[06:09] <xenonn31> strabes, yes, but I didn't touch fstab
[06:09] <un_operateur> DanaG, you can force anything -- but that's really not how it should work
[06:09] <Spacelvis> strabes: I tried installing Automatix today, but it won't start; it says something about not being able to fetch keys...?
[06:09] <jrib> minnmass: is this a botched upgrade from dapper?
[06:09] <DanaG> s/every package/every single binary in existence/
[06:10] <DanaG> more like.
[06:10] <minnmass> jrib: it is an upgrade from dapper, but it upgraded okay, and was "apt-get update" and "apg-get upgrade" -ing fine for a while.
[06:10] <un_operateur> DanaG, well, not if the binary was compiled in something other than C/C++
[06:10] <xenonn31> strabes, is mounted, but I can't write, maybe i should change fstab options, but I don't know what
[06:10] <jrib> minnmass: apt-cache policy coreutils
[06:11] <strabes> xenonn31: sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/mount/location
[06:11] <strabes> Spacelvis: that means you didn't paste the commands on the automatix website for fetching the keys: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_on_.28K.2CX.29Ubuntu_6.10_i386.2Camd64_.28Edgy.29
[06:11] <minnmass> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37927/
[06:11] <jrib> leobloom: apt-cache policy cinepaint
[06:11] <sharperguy> Whats a good text editor that highlights with a GUI that isn't gvim or emacs?
[06:11] <strabes> Spacelvis: paste those four commands then try updating
[06:12] <Spacelvis> ok... checking! Thanx!
[06:12] <leobloom> ehm yes, should I type that into the terminal?
[06:12] <lmosher> Is there a wireless network program that I can get that will detect and connect to a set of ESSID's? I.E. so that if I go to work and home it will automatically connect to whichever network it finds?? It's annoying to switch and in Windows it works just fine.
[06:12] <un_operateur> Spacelvis, the automatix servers are down -- as we found out earlier today
[06:12] <jrib> leobloom: yes, then pastebin the output
[06:12] <MarcN> lmosher: network-manager
[06:12] <Spacelvis> ah, ok, that explains it!
[06:12] <jrib> minnmass: you have the dapper version of that package
[06:12] <strabes> lmosher: i believe network-manager-gnome will do that
[06:12] <xenonn31> thanks a lot strabes
[06:12] <strabes> xenonn31: did it work?
[06:12] <lmosher> MarcN, strabes Ok I'll check that out.
[06:13] <strabes> lmosher: it runs it your notification area so once you install it it will start up with gnome, but for now just run network-manager-gnome &
[06:13] <minnmass> jrib: I suppose I could see that causing problems.  Any suggestions for fixing it?
[06:13] <xenonn31> strabes, oh no, I thought so, but it doesn't work.
[06:13] <leobloom> ok done it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37928/
[06:13] <xenonn31> strabes,  i put sudo mkdir hello
[06:13] <xenonn31> strabes, mkdir: cannot create directory `hola': Read-only file system
[06:13] <lmosher> strabes, thanks very much! What's the one currently running? it has an icon of two monitors and then a green bar for signal strength (it's the default Edgy wireless manager)
[06:14] <xenonn31> strabes,  i think i have to change fstab but i don't know what i have to change
[06:14] <strabes> lmosher: i dunno but it sux lol
[06:14] <DanaG> There's the gnome panel thingy
[06:14] <jrib> minnmass: sudo apt-get install coreutils  to pastebin.  This way we can concentrate on that
[06:14] <DanaG> and there's nm-applet
[06:14] <jrib> leobloom: try to put my name in your replies or I'll miss them
[06:14] <strabes> DanaG: nm-applet is network-manager
[06:14] <strabes> DanaG: network-manager is the package name
[06:14] <leobloom> ok, sorry
[06:14] <lmosher> strabes, yeah. I guess my question is, do I need to remove this existing applet or should I just remove it from the panel?
[06:14] <minnmass> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37929/
[06:15] <leobloom> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37928/
[06:15] <jrib> leobloom: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinepaint
[06:15] <strabes> lmosher: no you don't have to remove it, just remove it from the panel cuz it's annoying lol
[06:15] <naylor_> un_operateur, ok cool thanks man
[06:15] <DanaG> Oddly, my nm-applet shows "no connection" even though I'm on wired.
[06:15] <lmosher> strabes, yes, yes it is. Thanks :)
[06:15] <strabes> xenonn31: crap sorry then. cheeck here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[06:15] <un_operateur> naylor_, hows it coming along?
[06:15] <xenonn31> strabes, thnkas a lot
[06:15] <strabes> DanaG: try clicking on the applet in your notification area and re-clicking the wired network
[06:15] <Spacelvis> seems like the automatix-server should be back on track again: http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=290&pid=1698&st=0&#entry1698
[06:15] <strabes> DanaG: don't know, just a thought
[06:16] <strabes> Spacelvis: were you able to fetch the keys
[06:16] <strabes> ?
[06:16] <Spacelvis> not yet, I'm not on the Ubuntu PC as we speak... Booting it up again now
[06:17] <leobloom> jrib I've  typed that and it always tells me that the problem is with that lib
[06:17] <archi660> gada tu ktos po polsku ??
[06:17] <jrib> !pl | archi660
[06:17] <ubotu> archi660: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:17] <jrib> minnmass: searching, see if you can spot anythign on google with that error about bin/ls
[06:17] <un_operateur> minnmass, just a thought -- have you tried doing that same command as normal user -- sudo aptitude install coreutils
[06:17] <archi660> dzieki
[06:18] <un_operateur> jrib -- more importantly ./bin/ls -- which is odd
[06:19] <jrib> leobloom: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cinepaint/+bug/75020
[06:19] <minnmass> jrib: un_operator: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37930/
[06:19] <leobloom> jrib should I do something else? Dunno, what if I tried to manually install that lib? do you think it'd work?
[06:19] <jrib> minnmass: what's this command?
[06:19] <minnmass> jrib: I've tried googling, but haven't found anything...
[06:20] <naylor_> un_operateur, hi i can't install libpango cos it needs libpango-common but that won't install either cos that needs libpango!!
[06:20] <minnmass> jrib: that was "sudo aptitude install coreutils"
[06:20] <jrib> leobloom: find out if cinepaint really needs that dependency.  If it doesn't then i would download the source pacakge, remove the deb, and rebuild it
[06:20] <minnmass> jrib: as an administrative user
[06:21] <leobloom> eheh you now you are talking to a newby don't you?=o) I have no idea how to rebuild a package lol
[06:21] <webben> Is anyone using (regularly) OOo 2.1 ?
[06:21] <Spacelvis> Strabes: Yep, the keys for automatix can be fetched now! They discovered that the "keys"-folder (www.getautomatix.com/keys) was missing, but now they've restored it!
[06:21] <naylor_> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/285148
[06:21] <jrib> leobloom: I'll walk you through, it's simple.  But find out if it really requires that dependency first
[06:21] <Spacelvis> thanx for the help! :-)
[06:21] <webben> (and if so, how have they found it? okay? better? worse? buggy?)
[06:21] <lmosher> strabes, I installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome, but "network-manager-gnome" isn't a command. (using tab completion only network-admin shows up)
[06:21] <strabes> Spacelvis: np
[06:21] <un_operateur> naylor-- you can always force one to install  -- sudo dpkg --force-depends filename.deb
[06:22] <DanaG> aah, I had to comment out the lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:22] <strabes> lmosher: network-manager-gnome is only the package name. run nm-applet with an & sign after it to run it in the background
[06:22] <un_operateur> minnmass, have you tried this command as a normal user?? not as root?
[06:22] <DanaG> I had it on DHCP, but with the static info still there.
[06:22] <strabes> lmosher: so it wolud be "nm-applet &"
[06:22] <nolimitsoya_> !automatix | Spacelvis
[06:22] <ubotu> Spacelvis: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:22] <lmosher> strabes, ah thanks :)
[06:22] <strabes> lmosher: it starts up with gnome btw
[06:22] <un_operateur> naylor_, oops,  dpkg -i --force-depends filename.deb
[06:22] <slicslak> !easyubuntu Spacelvis
[06:22] <lmosher> strabes, there we go. cool thanks.
[06:23] <minnmass> un_operateur: Do you mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37935/ ?
[06:23] <strabes> leobloom: cinepaint has broken dependencies for me also and i can't seem to resolve them. sorry.
[06:23] <strabes> lmosher: cool glad i could help
[06:23] <slicslak> mmm, not as smart a bot as i would have thought
[06:23] <un_operateur> minnmass, no , not quite   --   sudo aptitude install coreutils
[06:24] <DanaG> Now, if only I could get Nautilus not to pop up ~ at every login.....
[06:24] <Gibbste2> Has anyone had any success with VPN with pptp? I keep on getting a string of errors
[06:24] <minnmass> un_operateur: that was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37930/
[06:24] <nolimitsoya_> slicslak, you need a | between command and name
[06:24] <strabes> DanaG: just add nautilus to gnome-session-properties startup programs tab
[06:24] <leobloom> strabes I'm trying to see if someone has already posted a solution somewhere, if not nevermind, I was just curious to see how this software is, I've read it's extremely good
[06:25] <DanaG> The problem is that it DOES open at login, and I want it to NOT open at login.
[06:25] <strabes> leobloom: have you tried finding a .deb online and instaling that?
[06:25] <lmosher> strabes, oops sorry I still need something. Its running but it just says "no network connection" ...
[06:25] <slicslak> !easyubuntu | Spacelvis
[06:25] <ubotu> Spacelvis: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:25] <DanaG> No matter what I do, even if I add "--no-default-window" to both ends of the Natilus string, it doesn't fix it.
[06:25] <strabes> lmosher: click on the little icon - it should bring up a list of wired and wireless networks
[06:25] <slicslak> nolimitsoya_, ah, thanks.
[06:25] <lmosher> strabes, hm, nope :(
[06:25] <DanaG> lmosher: as root (with sudo), edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:26] <Gibbste2> LCP terminated by peer.... ;-(
[06:26] <DanaG> you may need to comment out some stuff.
[06:26] <strabes> lmosher: are you trying a wireless connection? run sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[06:26] <leobloom> strabes nope, I don't even know how to look for it, I've had linux ubuntu only for 2 days
[06:26] <lmosher> DanaG, ah ok yeah it only has loopback I need to enable eth1
[06:26] <strabes> lmosher: if that doesn't work just restart your computer lol
[06:26] <jrib> leobloom: here's a better bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cinepaint/+bug/65457
[06:26] <DanaG> I know my eth1 doesn't show up if my hardware wireless kill switch is on (wireless LED is off)
[06:27] <lmosher> strabes, hehe well my wireless network is already up :)
[06:27] <strabes> lmosher: then what's the problem?
[06:27] <lmosher> DanaG, Yeah I see eth1 stuff, I'll uncomment that
[06:27] <jrib> leobloom: that one is "fix released" :)
[06:28] <CotRo|eR> how to make shared folders between ubuntu and windows xp ?
[06:28] <strabes> leobloom: not sure but try this http://sourceforge.net/projects/cinepaint
[06:28] <nolimitsoya_> !samba | CotRo|eR
[06:28] <ubotu> CotRo|eR: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:28] <DanaG> then you may need to sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:28] <lmosher> strabes, the problem is nm-applet isn't recognizing that i have wireless networking. It's just showing a greyed out "wired network".. I don't need to ifup eth1 because I'm on eth1 right now.
[06:28] <strabes> CotRo|eR: on 2 different computers or on the same computer
[06:29] <CotRo|eR> on 2 different pcs
[06:29] <nolimitsoya_> CotRo|eR, good, then my link is the right way :)
[06:29] <strabes> lmosher: i dunno; try restarting
[06:29] <lmosher> DanaG, I uncommented the eth1 lines, is there some service I need to restart now?
[06:29] <leobloom> strabes jrib I've foudn a forum with a guy who posted a "solution", now I'm going to check yours http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288646
[06:29] <CotRo|eR> cheers tnx strabes
[06:29] <CarCase928> !rpm | CarCase928
[06:29] <ubotu> CarCase928: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:29] <Spacelvis> slicslak: ok, will chek out easyubuntu. I'm just preparing a computer to give away to someone computer illiterate, and want things to be as easy as possible for them.
[06:29] <strabes> CotRo|eR: yeah you're going to have to use samba if you want it on 2 different pcs
[06:30] <DanaG> that's the one -- 'networking'
[06:30] <nolimitsoya_> CotRo|eR, if you want to share on a dual boot system, try ext2ifs from www.fs-driver.org for reading ext2/3 from windows, and ntfs-3g for reading ntfs from ubuntu
[06:30] <strabes> fs-driver = ownage
[06:30] <DanaG> I concur.
[06:30] <Gibbste2> I know the VPN server works: I had it working with windows. I really wanted it to work, otherwise I'll be forced to go back to windows ;-( At first I got a MPPE error, so I tried disabling 'require mppe', but now it simply says: 'LCP terminated by peer'
[06:30] <CarCase928> why is the "alien package so dangerous?
[06:30] <DanaG> Though make sure you never have folders with spaces directly under /
[06:30] <strabes> CarCase928: i dunno but i've never had any problems with it
[06:31] <DanaG> I usually make the drive letter L:
[06:31] <nolimitsoya_> CarCase928, it often breaks
[06:31] <CarCase928> oh
[06:31] <DanaG> spaces will break initramfs-tools
[06:31] <DanaG> s/will/may/
[06:31] <CotRo|eR> Let me show you my full problem strabes: I have 2 pcs, one with win xp and one with ubuntu. Now with the ubuntu I have a 250gb hard disk and I would like to make eg. 100GB to be shared over the network (since I have a router). Thats using samba right?
[06:32] <Jonn`> hmm... I installed libntfs8 but it doesnt seems to work
[06:32] <CotRo|eR> btw I have ubuntu server (text mode) not gui
[06:32] <strabes> CotRo|eR: yeah i guess you could make a 100gig partition and share it over samba or something. I don't really know anything about samba cuz I have no need for it
[06:32] <CarCase928> !APT
[06:32] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:32] <xzu_> CoolFox: you can smbmount and what not
[06:32] <strabes> CotRo|eR: i don't know if you would even have to make a partition - you're asking the wrong person lol
[06:33] <Spacelvis> CotRo|eR: Your'e right, samba it is.
[06:33] <tomix> anyone recommend a backup utility other than sbackup
[06:33] <tomix> ?
[06:33] <xzu_> CotRo|eR: that was for you: you can mount samba drives
[06:33] <DanaG> fubackup
[06:33] <DanaG> er,
[06:33] <DanaG> faubackup
[06:33] <CotRo|eR> strabes: cheers man, tnx for the help
[06:33] <DanaG> but I don't know the command to restore.
[06:33] <CarCase928> how do i share my internet connection?
[06:33] <CotRo|eR> + tnx anyone else
[06:33] <DanaG> perhaps just rsync.
[06:33] <strabes> CarCase928: a router...
[06:33] <strabes> or hub
[06:33] <Gibbste2> Can anyone advise a vpn client other than pptp?
[06:34] <tomix> DanaG will that handle backing up to a remote host?
[06:34] <Jonn`> Well, how can I convert NTFS to... vFAT?
[06:34] <Jonn`> I dont want to lose the data
[06:34] <zdl> Hi! Anyone succeed installing the flexcam webcam from conceptronic?
[06:34] <tomix> yeha not in the mode for writing a load of scripts and im pretty fed up with sbackup
[06:34] <Spacelvis> CotRo|eR: when you install samba, you get a file called /etc/samba/smb.conf; in that one you decide what directories to share.
[06:34] <strabes> Jonn`: you'll have to back it up first, and then format the drive as vfat
[06:34] <DanaG> well, for remote backup, I've heard the term 'bacula' thrown around.
[06:34] <CarCase928> i have that, but my broadband internet modem broke down, and i'm stuck with dial-up, and i have many computers in my house, and i would like to use linux instead of windows to share my net connection
[06:34] <DanaG> it's a networked backup utility of some sort.  I haven't tried it.
[06:34] <strabes> Jonn`: you can't "convert " drives without formatting them
[06:35] <Jonn`> T_T
[06:35] <Spacelvis> CotRo|eR: so you don't need specific partitions, just mounted directories.
[06:35] <Invisible_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/40ECF242.html this is what i have in my /etc/network/interfaces
[06:35] <Zodiac`> i cant connect to internet with eth1 (Wireless) without giving Ubuntu my ESSID :/
[06:35] <minnmass> un_operateur: any ideas?
[06:35] <Zodiac`> but yesterday i could connect without ESSID
[06:35] <sig> Jonn`: do a backup of all your stuff and then reformat it
[06:35] <tomix> well take a closer look seems to be more for handling a network of computers rather than single workstation
[06:35] <CotRo|eR> tnx Spacelvis, I will try it :D
[06:35] <Zodiac`> someone know how to find ESSID? Or how to fix this shit?
[06:35] <strabes> Jonn`: are you trying to share a drive between windows & linux on the same pc? if so you can use fs-driver.org for reading/writing ext3 in windows and ntfs-3g for reading/writing ntfs in linux
[06:35] <Spacelvis> nice!
[06:35] <Jonn`> ok, brb I will make a folder for the files meanwhile
[06:35] <DanaG> Or if you have half the hard drive space free, you can resize the partition,
[06:35] <DanaG> make a new partition,
[06:35] <CarCase928> !ICS
[06:35] <DanaG> move the stuff,
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ICS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <zspada15_> Zodiac`: its your routers thing
[06:36] <Invisible_> when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart it says can not access file /etc/network/interfaces linemissplaced:6:
[06:36] <Jonn`> No, what I want is to write in the external HDD
[06:36] <zspada15_> !language | Zodiac`
[06:36] <CarCase928> !Internet Connection Sharing
[06:36] <ubotu> Zodiac`: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:36] <Invisible_> what may be the problem?
[06:36] <DanaG> delete the old partiton and create a new one of the new type,
[06:36] <DanaG> then copy the stuff back, delete the temp partition, and resize the new one.
[06:36] <Zodiac`> shit aint bad <.<
[06:36] <minnmass> Jonn`: buy an external drive, copy everything to that, reformat the existing drive, and copy everything back.  It's the easiest way, really.  Plus, you have an external drive to which you can backup data.
[06:36] <CarCase928> !Internet Connection Sharing
[06:36] <Jonn`> what I want is to write files in the external HDD
[06:36] <Zodiac`> zspada15_, why did it work yesterday, but not now?
[06:36] <strabes> Jonn`: and the external is ntfs right now? if you take the external places then i would recommend you convert it to vfat so that other windows pcs can read it
[06:36] <DanaG> Oh, anything in /etc/init.d has to be sudo'd
[06:36] <Jonn`> minnmass: I only use Ubuntu in my laptop =)
[06:36] <zspada15_> Zodiac`: what chipset do you have?
[06:36] <strabes> Jonn`: or you could install ntfs-3g in linux to get read/write support of ntfs in linux
[06:37] <strabes> Jonn`: the latter requiring less work
[06:37] <Jonn`> alrighty
[06:37] <Zodiac`> Intel pro wireless 1000g or something
[06:37] <CotRo|eR> I'm getting this when i try to install samba :
[06:37] <CotRo|eR> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[06:37] <CotRo|eR> 'Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)'
[06:37] <CotRo|eR> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:37] <cmt^^> what's a good dc++-client? (not linuxdc++)
[06:37] <zspada15_> Zodiac`: open up a terminal and type "lspci | grep intel"
[06:37] <Gibbste2> Ubuntu thinks my wireless adapter is wired. Anyone know how to fix that?
[06:38] <DanaG> perhaps the numbering is backwards.
[06:38] <Invisible_> anyhelp for me?
[06:38] <DanaG> If you go to the regular Gnome network thingy, what does it show?
[06:38] <nolimitsoya_> Jonn`, be aware that writing with ntfs-3g is reasonably well tested, but still experimental. especialy on other platforms than 386
[06:38] <Zodiac`> zspada15_, what should happend?
[06:38] <strabes> Gibbste2: what does network-admin say
[06:38] <zspada15_> Zodiac`: it should have displayed a line with your wireless card, paste ONLY THAT LINE into the chat
[06:39] <dv5237> anyone here got second life running on ubuntu?
[06:39] <nolimitsoya_> Jonn`, my suggestion would be having ext2ifs from www.fs-driver.org on a memorystick, for installation on windows pc:s you might visit, and using ext3 on your external drive
[06:39] <Zodiac`> zspada15_, kk
[06:39] <Zodiac`> someone know how to find ESSID? Or how to fix this shit?
[06:39] <minnmass> CotRo|eR: it seems you need to remove the CD from the install repos.  In advanced "add/remove software", you can change those.  Or, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly: put at "#" in front of the CD repos.
[06:39] <Zodiac`> lawl wrong paste
[06:39] <Zodiac`> soz
[06:39] <PriceChild> !language | Zodiac`
[06:39] <ubotu> Zodiac`: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:39] <jrib> CotRo|eR: you have the cdrom repository in your sources.list, disable it
[06:39] <Zodiac`>  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connect
[06:39] <CotRo|eR> tnx ppl
[06:39] <Jonn`> I will try with the ntfs-3g first, I only want to move one folder..
[06:39] <Zodiac`> thats my card.. zspada15_
[06:39] <strabes> nolimitsoya_: it's on an external HDD so he'll probably have to be able to r/w on other windows pcs
[06:39] <jrib> CotRo|eR: you can use the edit menu in system > administration > synaptic to edit your sources.list by the way
[06:39] <zspada15_> Zodiac`: by any chance is this a dell inspiron B130?
[06:40] <Jonn`> that's the name of the library, no? ntfs-3g ?
[06:40] <Gibbste2> strabes: it lists eth0 (wired) eth1(wired), modem connection
[06:40] <nolimitsoya_> strabes, hence the memorystick with ext2ifs, as i said, for windows pc:s to be visited ;)
[06:40] <Zodiac`> zspada15_, HP Pavilion dv1000
[06:40] <strabes> Jonn`: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[06:40] <DanaG> I pity the foo' (dang, so overused....) who uses ntfs-3G on a non-Windows-installed PC's internal drive.
[06:40] <Gibbste2> strabes: of course, I only have 1 wired connection, and 1 wireless connection
[06:40] <Jonn`> it's just that I had problems earlier with that
[06:40] <Invisible_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/40ECF242.html this is what i have in my /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:40] <lmosher> Can someone help met set up network-manager? I've just rebooted after doing "sudo install network-manager network manager-gnome" and that's it. On the network-manager website it says it will show all the wireless networks - it's not....
[06:40] <strabes> Gibbste2: that's correct then. eth1 is wireless and eth0 is wired
[06:40] <strabes> generally
[06:40] <nolimitsoya_> Jonn`, what sort of problems?
[06:40] <Gibbste2> strabes: (and 1 modem connection)
[06:41] <strabes> Gibbste2: yeah
[06:41] <Gibbste2> strabes: well, why does it list the wireless adapter as wired?
[06:41] <Jonn`> I heard it was libntfs-3g0
[06:41] <DanaG> eth1 is standard for ipw drivers.
[06:41] <strabes> Gibbste2: i dunno
[06:41] <Gibbste2> strabes: and how do I get it to do wireless type things
[06:41] <dfcarney> dist-upgrading to edgy completely hosed my system -- now, it won't even boot because it hangs at various init scripts.  Can one perform a "clean" install from CD?  I.e. I just care to preserve what's in my homedir, but it's all on the same partition...
[06:41] <Gibbste2> stabes: like scan for ESSIDs
[06:41] <dooglus> how do I stop a module being loaded at boot time in edgy?
[06:41] <strabes> Gibbste2: like what??
[06:41] <nolimitsoya_> Jonn`, apt-get ntfs-3g, and mount th partition with '-t ntfs-3g'
[06:42] <zspada15_> !ipw2200 | Zodiac`
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <CotRo|eR> minnmass: is this the cd repos? : deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted
[06:42] <CarCase928> how do i exec alien?
[06:42] <DanaG> dfcarney: you can copy the home to somewhere else.  That's about it.
[06:42] <nolimitsoya_> CarCase928, 'alien <package>'
[06:42] <DanaG> Oh, and save any custom configs, like GDM or Xorg and such.
[06:42] <minnmass> CotRo|eR: Yes.  The "cdrom" part...
[06:42] <DanaG> And sources.list
[06:42] <noobie> hi does anyone knows why my ubuntu no longer detects my ps/2 keyboard?
[06:42] <strabes> Gibbste2: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome && sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[06:42] <Jonn`> well, looks like I lack of repositories or something... it cant find the package
[06:42] <CarCase928> nolimitsoya_: thanks
[06:42] <DanaG> !ntfs-3g
[06:42] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:42] <darkrider01> lmosher: i have/had the same problem with the network manager, however it still doesn't show any networks but i managed to set up my wireless with the use of iwconfig etc.
[06:42] <strabes> CarCase928: you do sudo alien -i /path/to/.rpm
[06:43] <jrib> dooglus: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:43] <zspada15_> Zodiac`: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=ipw2200
[06:43] <belter> My ubuntu keeps loosing it's resolution and defualting to 640*480 using a dell 15 inch trinitron
[06:43] <CarCase928> strables: ok, thanks
[06:43] <strabes> belter: add teh resolutions you want into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:43] <nolimitsoya_> belter, have you tried checking the xorg.conf?
[06:43] <nolimitsoya_> CarCase928, be aware that that command willinstall the rpm directly. mine will convert it to a deb
[06:43] <noobie> when i'm going to acces the computer's BIOS keyboard works fine but when edgy loads up... won't detect a keyboard input
[06:43] <Ignite_> How do I set the default language for my account to spanish? I can install language packs but I can't find where to change it pre-user instead of just the default language.
[06:44] <DanaG> hmm, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8680
[06:44] <belter> it's in the xorg.conf
[06:44] <DanaG> "         Easy Backup and Restore"
[06:44] <hikenboot> hello all anyone know any gui utility for backing up data to dvds?
[06:44] <skreet> I've got a 44 GB partition showing up as 44 MB is `df -h`. Theres a ton of missing data. Any ideas?
[06:44] <zodiac__> why is there no ESSID to choose in the dropdown-menu in wireless network settings?
[06:44] <lmosher> darkrider01, My wireless network is working fine, but it's really annoying to have to log into root to switch networks when I go from work to home.
[06:44] <jrib> Ignite_: system > administration > language
[06:44] <nolimitsoya_> hikenboot, tried hubackup?
[06:44] <strabes> CarCase928: yeah if you want it to convert to a .deb first, remove the -i flag and it'll put a .deb in your home dir
[06:44] <hikenboot> thanks nolimitsoya_
[06:44] <DanaG> Is your SSID set to not broadcast?
[06:44] <Ignite_> jrib, that just lets me install language packs.
[06:44] <zodiac__> DanaG, dont think so
[06:45] <DanaG> Hmm.
[06:45] <belter> it will not let me use another resolution till i boot with a diffrent monitor
[06:45] <noobie> ubuntu edgy will only going to detect my keyboard if I will press and hold a key from the keyboard until the GDM shows up
[06:45] <earthian> hello any english people here? is this "understandment" word correct in english???
[06:45] <earthian> :)
[06:45] <noobie> no
[06:45] <Ignite_> Nope
[06:45] <zspada15_> !offtopic | earthian
[06:45] <ubotu> earthian: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> earthian, you might want
[06:45] <darkrider01> lmosher: right, what wireless do you have? maybe you can help me out then...
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> * 'understatement' or 'understanding'
[06:45] <CarCase928> nolimitsoya_ and strables: oh, ok, thanks for the info
[06:46] <Gibbste2> strabes: thanks. Since you are wise in the ways of networking, have you successfully used VPN under ubuntu?
[06:46] <belter> how do i get install the system > admin > display  tool ?
[06:46] <zodiac__> no, its brodcasted, DanaG
[06:46] <DanaG> aah.
[06:46] <DanaG> Then I don't know what to do...
[06:46] <dooglus> how do I stop a module being loaded at boot time in edgy?
[06:46] <zspada15_> zodiac__: go to this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=ipw2200
[06:46] <strabes> Gibbste2: i have not. sorry. :(
[06:46] <strabes> dooglus: i think you can use boot up manager
[06:46] <zspada15_> !blacklist | Doodluv
[06:46] <ubotu> Doodluv: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[06:46] <DanaG> PLEASE, PAY ATTENTION: This HowTo was intended for Hoary. If you are running a higher version of Ubuntu, please take a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[06:47] <DanaG> copy and paste.
[06:47] <zspada15_> !blacklist | dooglus
[06:47] <ubotu> dooglus: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[06:47] <zodiac__> zspada15_, i use wep.
[06:47] <Gibbste2> strabes: damn. back to windows I guess ;-(
[06:47] <strabes> network-manager supports wep and wpa
[06:47] <lmosher> darkrider01, I have an intel centrio 3945
[06:47] <DanaG> I have ipw3945 also.
[06:47] <Doodluv> blacklist?
[06:47] <strabes> Gibbste2: noooo!!!!! i'm sure there's lots of howtos on ubuntuforums.org for that
[06:47] <Gibbste2> strabes: I tried. and failed
[06:47] <dooglus> what's "my_blacklist" - is that the actual name of the file?
[06:47] <skreet> I've got a 44 GB partition showing up as 44 MB is `df -h`. Theres a ton of missing data. Any ideas?
[06:47] <DanaG> I've had issues with not-broadcast WPA connections.
[06:48] <zspada15_> Doodluv: sorry i sent that wrong
[06:48] <noobie> so this channel wont support ubuntu edgy?
[06:48] <Doodluv> zspada15: np
[06:48] <DanaG> Edgy is no longer +1
[06:48] <jrib> Ignite_: maybe edit /etc/environment  .  I thought there was some gui way :/
[06:48] <strabes> Gibbste2: oh that sux. keep asking - there's bound to be someone on here that knows what they're talking about
[06:48] <Gibbste2> strabes: they all suggest pptpconfig, but that doesn't seem to work...
[06:48] <strabes> bbl
[06:48] <nolimitsoya> skreet, tried any partition recovery tools?
[06:48] <Gibbste2> strabes: snif
[06:48] <DanaG> Feisty is +1.