[04:44] <locodir-user> Wub wub
[04:44] <MartijnVdS> \o
[04:44] <locodir-user> o/
[04:52] <soreau> \o.
[07:18] <jacobw> morning
[07:38] <christel> good morning pretties :)
[07:52] <AlanBell> morning all
[07:52]  * AlanBell wonders off to find breakfast
[07:52] <christel> tis in my kitchen
[09:02] <jacobw> \o/ washing machine delivered
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[09:54] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> morning brobostigon
[10:09] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[10:09]  * MartijnVdS soldered a wire into a MR3220 wifi router
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> and now it has a 1wire bus with a thermometer on it \o/
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> it works!
[10:15] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: :)
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> new doctor tonight \o/
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> well
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> new episode of current doctor
[10:19] <brobostigon> yep.
[10:19] <MartijnVdS> but you know what I mean
[11:28]  * penguin42 drops pin
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: watch out, f1 cars :)
[11:29] <penguin42> ah, need bigger pins
[11:29]  * brobostigon offers penguin42 a box of nails.
[11:30] <MartijnVdS> But.. F1!
[12:03] <oimon> anyone else get the problem where shotwell doesn't show thumbnails of photos it's about to import?, just shows noentry sign?
[12:03] <oimon> shotwell 0.12.3 on 12.04
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> oimon: RAW photos/
[12:16] <oimon> jpegs
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> it does that for me for .cr2s
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> I thought it was because cr2s are hard to parse
[12:16] <oimon> used to work, i'm sure
[12:32] <oimon> MartijnVdS: probably related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/986676/comments/10
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> ah yes
[12:41] <MartijnVdS> I put my CF card in my CF reader, so "Mass Storage" camera
[12:41] <penguin42> possibly - but be careful; some of the photo problems can be camera-specific - especially if it's related to raw
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: it also happens on SD from my other camera (with jpg)
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: so I think it might be that bug
[12:43] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: In which case I'm not sure the upstream one that's linked to is correct
[14:44] <dwatkins> wow, sipdroid is awful
[14:45] <dwatkins> mind you, sipgate's own client isn't much better, sadly
[14:51] <Azelphur> dwatkins: you know android has built in SIP support right?
[14:51] <dwatkins> Azelphur: no, I did not - how do I get to the configuration?
[14:51]  * dwatkins is running CM7
[14:52] <Azelphur> Open the dialer, press menu, settings, scroll to the bottom and you'll find "Internet call settings"
[14:52] <Azelphur> although CM7 is a bit old, I'm not sure if it was in android on that version
[14:52] <dwatkins> fantastic, thanks
[14:52] <dwatkins> ah ok, perhaps yeah
[14:52] <Azelphur> what phone you got?
[14:52] <dwatkins> HTC Desire HD (aka Ace)
[14:53] <Azelphur> is there not a newer CM build for that?
[14:53] <dwatkins> not that I've seen, I think I have either the most recent, or pretty much the most recent, 7.2
[14:54] <dwatkins> no internet call settings option in the dialler preferences, sadly
[14:54] <Azelphur> there should be unofficial prebuilds
[14:54] <Azelphur> like my HTC Desire Z didn't have a released CM10, but I was running it anyway
[14:55] <dwatkins> yeah, I havn't looked into it in a while - when I installed this, CM 7.1 was quite new (I was wrong, it's not 7.2)
[14:55] <Azelphur> dwatkins: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202 looks good and seems to not have any critical bugs
[14:55] <Azelphur> tis a cm10 prerelease :)
[14:56] <dwatkins> ah yes, I just found a thread about CM9 also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754382
[14:56] <dwatkins> cheers Azelphur, will look into these
[14:57] <Azelphur> that's an older version of android and has more broken features :P
[14:57] <Azelphur> dwatkins: you know about nandroid right?
[14:57] <Azelphur> and titanium backup
[14:58] <dwatkins> yeah, I think I used them before for backups
[14:58] <Azelphur> when you upgrade from cm7 to 10, you'll most likely need to do a full wipe
[14:58] <dwatkins> fair enough, makes sense
[14:58] <Azelphur> so use titanium to restore any apps
[14:58] <Azelphur> and take a full nandroid backup just in case it doesn't work so you can rollback
[14:59] <dwatkins> I assume ROM manager just backs up the OS.
[14:59] <Azelphur> yea if you do it with rom manager it will ask you if you want to take a backup, then it'll do a nandroid backup
[14:59] <Azelphur> be careful not to miss it, it's off by default
[14:59] <dwatkins> aha cool
[14:59] <dwatkins> Havn't done one for a couple weeks, actually.
[14:59] <Azelphur> hehe :)
[15:00] <Azelphur> I had my Desire Z running CM10 for a long time was quite nice albeit a little quirky
[15:00] <dwatkins> cheers for reminding me :)
[15:00] <Azelphur> yw :)
[15:00] <Azelphur> the builtin sip client uses a lot less battery than sipdroid/csipsimple from what I've seen
[15:00] <Azelphur> so should be an improvement
[15:01] <dwatkins> It always makes me smile that the text-based bootloader uses lots of bright colours, probably because I grew up with a BBC Micro.
[15:01] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:02] <Azelphur> I bit the bullet and upgraded a few days ago though, got me a Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 7, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/August/IMG_20120831_205728.jpg
[15:02] <Azelphur> sold my old HTC Desire Z
[15:02] <dwatkins> hmm, no nandroid option in the backup, it's just going ahead
[15:02] <dutchie> i don't see the point in rooting my nexus 7
[15:02] <dwatkins> very nice, I didn't know CM had already been ported to the NExus 7.
[15:02] <Azelphur> dwatkins: the backup option is nandroid, they are synonimous :)
[15:03] <dwatkins> Azelphur: aha thanks
[15:03] <Azelphur> dutchie: I wanted it for DataSync so I can sync appdata between the two
[15:03] <Azelphur> although as of yet the only thing I achieved was wiping my save game \o/
[15:04] <dutchie> Azelphur: haha
[15:06] <kvarley> I want an easy to use secure firewall that will let me restrict access to a set of IP addresses on several different ports. Which applications can do that? I'm am not running an X server on the machine it is destined for
[15:07] <brobostigon> why not just use the inbuilt kernel iptables, and use ufw to configure it ?
[15:08] <brobostigon> i mean, iptables is alrady there, builtin.
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> iptables is good, some apps have internal controls as well
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> but iptables is what you want :)
[15:17] <dwatkins> I hear good things about ipcop, but that's probably for booting a dedicated machine from.
[15:20] <kvarley> brobostigon: I'll check that out, thanks :) I'm setting up an invite-only XMPP network you see so I need the added security :)
[15:20] <brobostigon> kvarley: ah, interesting, :)
[15:25] <Azelphur> trying to use ffmpeg to convert a youtube mp4 to mp3 and it's not happy with me. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/yJDh3x1n
[15:27] <kvarley> Azelphur: Try: ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -vn acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 256k -ar 48000 audio.mp3
[15:28] <kvarley> Azelphur: Or just use VLC to do it :P
[15:28] <Azelphur> kvarley: nope http://pastebin.com/mXiJw66P :(
[15:28] <Azelphur> kvarley: how do you do that? didn't know vlc could do it
[15:31] <kvarley> Azelphur: Yeah, it has been able to do it for ages! :) Open VLC, click on "Media" from the menu, then select the "Convert / Save ..." option
[15:31] <Azelphur> kvarley: ah, I have a lot to convert would prefer to do it from the command line
[15:32] <kvarley> Azelphur: Do you have lame installed?
[15:32] <kvarley> sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-53
[15:34] <Azelphur> nope, installing it now :P
[15:41] <Azelphur> yay now it's working :)
[19:03] <jacobw> evening
[19:21] <christel> hiya jacobw :)
[20:12] <penguin42> anyone know what the 'right' way to add an option to something started by upstart is - is it really to edit /etc/init/whatever?
[20:27] <dutchie> penguin42: /etc/default/whatever
[20:27] <dutchie> i believe
[20:27] <penguin42> dutchie: The init script doesn't seem to read it
[20:27] <dutchie> specifying which package may help :)
[20:28] <penguin42> tgt
[20:29] <penguin42> dutchie: It just has an exec tgtd   - it then also runs as a post-starta /usr/sbin/tgt-admin -e   which is supposed to read stuff from tgt's config files but the docs for those only seem to specify some of the stuff you can do on the command lines
[20:29] <dutchie> odd :/ afraid i'm not hugely familiar with it, hopefully someone else is
[20:43]  * penguin42 is trying to set up iscsi with multiple portals and it's far from obvious
[21:19] <Myrtti> ♥ Wolfram Alpha
[22:17] <Azelphur> you know it's bad when you've done 30GB of youtube in one day
[22:26] <penguin42> Azelphur: what?
[22:27] <Azelphur> penguin42: I've downloaded 30GB of youtube content today, haha
[22:27] <penguin42> Azelphur: No, I mean what magical youtube content have you found that's worth downloading 60GB of
[22:28] <Azelphur> http://www.youtube.com/user/goingquantum
[22:29] <ali1234> wubwubwub
[22:29] <Azelphur> wub indeed.
[22:29] <Azelphur> downloading all of the podcasts and mp3ing them
[22:30] <penguin42> hth is that 60GB just for an audio with a still image - oh it'll be the silly visualisations ?
[22:30] <ali1234> well there is 58 episodes
[22:30] <ali1234> eash one an hour long
[22:31] <penguin42> but an hour of audio shouldn't take a GB
[22:31] <ali1234> no, but an hour of 1080p is much more than 1 GB
[22:31] <Azelphur> indeed
[22:31] <Azelphur> penguin42: 30GB not 60
[22:32] <penguin42> I only looked at the start of that - there was very little movement, so that should encode to very little for the video
[22:32] <ali1234> Azelphur: did you see that 4K TV on slashdot today? you can buy it from korea...
[22:32]  * penguin42 wants a 4K monitor - a nice small 24" one
[22:33] <ali1234> panasonic has a 20" ne according to the story
[22:33] <Azelphur> ali1234: haha I heard about 4k tv's before, they do sound awesome
[22:33] <bigcalm> Good evening slackers :)
[22:33] <Azelphur> and yea I heard about 20", that sounds terrible
[22:33] <Azelphur> 4k at 20" would just be bad
[22:33] <penguin42> bigcalm: Good evening fellow slacker
[22:34] <bigcalm> :D
[22:36] <bigcalm> I'm looking to a wifi router with USB port that will run openwrt. There seem to be lots, but finding a decent one is slow going
[22:38] <bigcalm> Anybody with thoughts on TP-Link?
[22:38] <ali1234> when it comes to openwrt the only thing that really matters is the core chipset
[22:42] <bigcalm> Fugley, but seems to be supported: http://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WR2543ND-450Mbps-Dual-Band-Wireless-Gigabit/dp/B006B3BM9I/
[23:13] <directhex> i have a tp-link wifi stick
[23:13] <directhex> it works
[23:14] <bigcalm> Anybody bought from WAE+ ?
[23:14] <bigcalm> Now looking at the Netgear WNDR3800
[23:20] <bigcalm> Mixed reviews. will pay extra and buy from pixmania
[23:44] <ali1234> Azelphur: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWolompWT8
[23:45] <Azelphur> ali1234: haha :D
[23:45] <Azelphur> that looks fun, so he uploads new content every day?
[23:45] <ali1234> you need to sub that guy, he is amazing
[23:45] <Azelphur> subbing \o/
[23:45] <ali1234> not just dubstep. he does pretty much every kind of music
[23:46] <Azelphur> ah
[23:46] <Azelphur> do you like dubstep?
[23:46] <ali1234> "gravy and toast" is my favourite
[23:46] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:46] <penguin42> Azelphur: How did your windows-tax refund go?
[23:46] <ali1234> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTzTSbc268c
[23:46] <Azelphur> penguin42: they told me to contact lenovo, I gave up at that point
[23:46] <penguin42> Azelphur: Bah!
[23:46] <ali1234> dubstep is ok. i prefer the less wubby kind though.
[23:46] <Azelphur> ali1234: hehe
[23:47] <penguin42> Azelphur: Pity, I started thinking; if it was possible for WIndows, people should start doing it with Mac
[23:47] <Azelphur> penguin42: rofl
[23:49] <penguin42> Azelphur: Well, it would be interesting - Apple claimed some of the features on their mobiles were worth $100/device
[23:49] <Azelphur> haha


[00:04] <cyberanger> hey vychune_
[00:05] <vychune> how u doing
[00:06] <cyberanger> vychune_: good
[00:06] <cyberanger> and you?
[00:07] <vychune> good at work
[00:08] <vychune> u seen linuxman?
[00:12] <cyberanger> not lately
[14:46] <wrst> morning Xpistos
[14:46] <Xpistos> what up homie
[14:46] <Xpistos> why can't wordpress just make sense to me
[15:09] <cyberanger> Xpistos: why can't wordpress just make sense to me?
[15:09] <cyberanger> ;-)
[15:10] <cyberanger>  who knows
[15:10] <Xpistos> lol
[15:14] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what is the actual issue
[15:14] <Xpistos> I want to take posts from the "Comics" category and publish them automoatically in the Comics page
[15:14] <Xpistos> but
[15:15] <Xpistos> without the word ARCHIVE in the header
[15:15] <Xpistos> noob posted an article about DMZ today and I want to make sure how it gets posted
[15:33] <cyberanger> hrm, don't think I've ever seen that happen
[15:33] <cyberanger> for wordpress at least
[15:56] <Juzzy> handy *nix script: http://juzzycode.blogspot.com/2011/02/linux-security-wrapper.html
[16:00] <Xpistos> Wow Juzzy, that guy has the same name as you@
[16:10] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what are the odds of that? ;-)
[16:11] <Xpistos> I know, right
[16:22] <Juzzy> hah
[16:22] <Juzzy> just sharing crap
[16:25] <cyberanger> Juzzy: thanks, it's very intresting (your words here) crap
[16:25] <cyberanger> ;-)
[16:46] <cyberanger> Juzzy: really, it's intresting
[18:28] <vychune_> o/
[18:28] <vychune_> got a mac mini 170
[18:28] <vychune_>   \O/
[18:30]  * cyberanger hands vychune_ an ubuntu install disc
[18:33] <vychune_> got one in the mail last week
[18:33] <vychune_> maverick
[18:34] <vychune_> how are you this morning
[18:34]  * cyberanger hands vychune_ another install disc, and a list of uses for it, A) fix a mac ;-)
[18:34] <vychune_> lol
[18:35] <cyberanger> vychune_: doing well this afternoon, how about you
[18:35] <vychune_> good as this sale is going now in a min
[18:35] <vychune_> down even
[18:35] <vychune_> lol
[18:35] <cyberanger> :-D
[18:37] <vychune_> gtg
[18:37] <vychune_> later
[19:14] <starsprout> howdy folks
[19:14] <starsprout> rainy and cool in Memphis :-)
[19:16] <starsprout> anyone know anything about external Seagate HD with NTFS partition errors? I can't write to it today
[19:16] <starsprout> running testdisk now
[19:22] <cyberanger> NTFS errors are a bit rare here
[19:22] <starsprout> When I started using the disk for backup I was running Windows XP
[19:22] <starsprout> Now I've only been writing to it with Ubuntu
[19:23]  * starsprout wondering if I should connect it to my one Windows machine
[19:23] <starsprout> even testdisk eventually loaded the error "unable to mount"
[19:23] <starsprout> and gparted shows errors on it too
[19:23] <starsprout> sigh
[19:23] <wrst> starsprout: what error do you get?
[19:25] <starsprout> http://pastebin.com/hkW5qA22
[19:29] <starsprout> does fsck or e2fsck work on an NTFS partition?
[19:29]  * starsprout thinking I should change my name to n00b
[19:31] <wrst> starsprout: have you tried what it said to do from within windows?
[19:31] <starsprout> no. I'll do that now :-)
[19:31] <wrst> probably where i woudl start :)
[19:32] <wrst> and then if i could I would reformat the drive to ext3/4 :)
[19:33] <starsprout> yeah except I'm using it already as backup for ~500G
[19:33] <wrst> got anyplace you can dump that data ?
[19:36] <starsprout> yeah, another seagate ntfs external disk :-(
[19:36]  * starsprout shakes his fist at Microsoft
[19:37] <wrst> I use ext4 attached to my server and have no issue and use samba to share with winders
[19:52] <starsprout> speaking of my (dual boot) windows machine, any idea why the keyboard won't work in ubuntu (but works fine in windows)?
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e12000.m43.l1123/7?euid=f5fe5094a16f40b5b3aa162d5f01db09&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D110653228305%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A1123
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> wow huge link
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> wrst, I heard u were the coolest guy in here
[20:01] <xTEMPLARx> bet this link is more sane:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110653228305&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123
[20:01] <xTEMPLARx> yup
[20:01] <xTEMPLARx> grr
[20:01] <wrst> what type of keyboard starsprout?
[20:01] <wrst> hey xTEMPLARx i doubt that :)
[20:04] <starsprout> it's a compaq laptop
[20:05] <starsprout> one day suddenly ubuntu keyboard doesnt respond - can't even login
[20:06] <starsprout> like I said - works fine in windows though
[20:06] <xTEMPLARx> and it doesn't work at all?  not a single key?
[20:06] <starsprout> neither mouse nor keys
[20:06] <starsprout> grub keys work (up/down)
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> well it doesn't sound like a keyboard TYPE messup
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> coz then you'd probably see SOMETHING out of it
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> can you get to console, or does that not work either?
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> ctl-alt-2 that is
[20:08] <starsprout> ctl-alt-2 from the login splash screen?
[20:08] <starsprout> or from right after GRUB?
[20:08] <xTEMPLARx> from the login screen
[20:08] <xTEMPLARx> i'm assuming you have a GUI-based login, and not a console one
[20:08] <starsprout> yes gui
[20:09] <starsprout> will try in a moment (in windows right now completing updates)
[20:09] <xTEMPLARx> if that DOES work, ctrl-alt-7 or ctrl-alt-8 will bring it back to the GUI screen
[20:10] <starsprout> ok - at spalsh screen ctrl-alt-2 does nothing.
[20:10] <starsprout> even capslock and numlock don't work
[20:10] <starsprout> (same with "recovery mode")
[20:11] <wrst> starsprout: do you have an xorg.conf file?
[20:11] <starsprout> probably (did I mention it's kubuntu?)
[20:12] <starsprout> I'm wondering if there's an setting in GRUB I can try
[20:12] <starsprout> like disable acpi or something
[20:14] <xTEMPLARx> that I don't know, but one thing you COULD do, is disable the splash at boot... edit the boot line for the kernel you like to boot from, and get rid of the splash business at the end of the line
[20:14] <xTEMPLARx> it should cause it to boot while showing you all the stuff going on during boot
[20:14] <xTEMPLARx> SO
[20:15] <xTEMPLARx> if there's an error somewhere with the keyboard PRIOR to getting to the GUI, you may catch a glimpse
[20:15]  * xTEMPLARx is grasping at straws
[20:16]  * starsprout lol
[20:17] <starsprout> I'm gonna try to get this external drive fixed, back up my files, then re-install :-)
[20:17] <wrst> starsprout: a reinstall shouldn't be necessary
[20:18] <starsprout> alright I believe it, but one thing at a time because right now I'm using Windows to look at the Seagate...(which is working, btw - hooray!)
[20:18] <wrst> starsprout: what version of ubuntu ?
[20:18] <wrst> or kubuntu?
[20:18] <starsprout> I wanna say version 4.xx
[20:19] <starsprout> Installed it about 10 months ago
[20:19] <xTEMPLARx> 10.04
[20:19] <xTEMPLARx> ?
[20:19] <wrst> 10.04?
[20:19] <starsprout> duh yes 10.04 64-bit
[20:20] <starsprout> heh
[20:20] <wrst> and its kubuntu starsprout?
[20:20] <wrst> or ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop?
[20:21] <wrst> what i'm getting at is that you are using KDM?
[20:21] <starsprout> it's a full kubuntu 10.04 64-bit install
[20:21] <starsprout> KDE
[20:21] <starsprout> (I love it)
[20:21] <wrst> ahh well kde is your problem obviously
[20:21] <wrst> :)
[20:21] <starsprout> yah it's a KDE splash screen
[20:22] <wrst> does the mouse work?
[20:22] <starsprout> but it all worked fine for 10 months (the onboard mouse pad does not work - haven't tried an extension mouse)
[20:22] <starsprout> wouldn't matter if mouse worked anyway, I can't type anything
[20:23] <wrst> no that helps out, you could try using the recovery boot up and then startx from the cli and see if that matters
[20:24] <starsprout> with an external mouse?
[20:27] <wrst> no from the console starsprout
[20:28] <wrst> with a sudo startx command
[20:28] <starsprout> oh with a boot disk
[20:28] <starsprout> ok hang on
[20:28] <wrst> no starsprout one of the boot options is a recovery option
[20:28] <starsprout> oh! ok...
[20:28] <wrst> i'm wondering if the problem could be with KDM
[20:28] <starsprout> booting into recovermode
[20:29] <starsprout> it stops after attaching scsi disk - just sits there
[20:29] <starsprout> (I've tried recovery mode before)
[20:30] <starsprout> ctrl-alt-2 nothing. all f-keys, nothing.
[20:31] <wrst> starsprout:  did you select recovery mode at the grub screen?
[20:31] <starsprout> yes
[20:31] <wrst> oh sorry i didn't read well
[20:31] <wrst> no login screen?
[20:31] <wrst> terminal login screen
[20:32] <xTEMPLARx> when you're at the KDM screen, do you see the usual stuff where you'd click or type?
[20:32] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: he shouldn't have hit KDM in recovery should he unless kubunt is on crack? :)
[20:32] <xTEMPLARx> i have a machine (this one) that sometimes "hangs" on teh Gnome login, and I have to hit C to continue some process that's underneath
[20:34] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: have you tried natty out?
[20:34] <xTEMPLARx> not fairly
[20:35] <wrst> its certainly a work in progress
[20:35] <wrst> starsprout: any luck ?
[20:35] <starsprout> no luck
[20:36] <wrst> so you hung at trying to boot up?
[20:36] <starsprout> xTEMPLARx, yes, I see the normal login screen and graphics
[20:36] <wrst> starsprout: tried booting using an older kernel from grub?
[20:36] <starsprout> yeah tried that too
[20:37] <wrst> starsprout: i might be tempted to check and see if i had an xorg.conf file if i did i would rename it and try booting without it
[20:37] <wrst> as a quick attempt at something
[20:37] <starsprout> yeah, older kernels hang after the scsi disk attach too
[20:38] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: shoudln't that be done ^^ by the time he gets to KDM?
[20:38] <starsprout> booting now with ubuntu startup disk
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> yeah, it SHOULD be beyond attaching to disks by the time KDM arrives
[20:43] <wrst> but xTEMPLARx as you know anything related to KDE can really be a mess :)
[20:43]  * wrst shouldn't make fun of starsprout when he is down
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> KDM has some great ideas in the way things look
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> i just had a problem with how it accessed (or rather, didn't) my samba shares via the file manager
[20:46] <xTEMPLARx> it kept me from being able to use it here at work
[20:47] <starsprout> :D
[20:48] <starsprout> I don't know where to begin with this boot disk
[20:48] <wrst> yeah xTEMPLARx kde looks great but functionaly its just a big turd for me
[20:48] <wrst> starsprout: does it work?
[20:48] <starsprout> I'm "trying ubuntu" now and it's loading
[20:48] <starsprout> the mouse and keyboard are responsive
[20:49] <xTEMPLARx> so we know its possible
[20:49] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[20:49] <wrst> starsprout: see if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf on your kubuntu partition
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> i don't believe they use xorg.conf anymore
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> deprecated n such
[20:50] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: no, but if you use nvidia drivers or ati they create one
[20:50] <starsprout> how do I mount the internal disk?
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> ah so
[20:51] <xTEMPLARx> it should show up under your PLACES menu
[20:51] <wrst> just go to places and clicke it
[20:51] <starsprout> :-)
[20:52] <wrst> starsprout: what type of video card do you have?
[20:52] <starsprout> there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[20:52] <wrst> ok cancel what i thought starsprout that's as it should be
[20:52] <starsprout> it's an ATI Mobility Radeon according to lspci
[20:53] <wrst> ok you ever installed drivers for it? i'm guessing not since the open ones work decent enough
[20:54] <starsprout> I might have installed them in KDE, but then there would be a xorg.conf file wouldn't there
[20:55] <wrst> to cause the issue i'm thinking it would have
[20:55] <wrst> what model is the laptop?
[21:01] <Xpistos> Stupid Windows 7 update
[21:01] <starsprout> it's a compaq... is there a command to learn the model number with bash?
[21:02] <wrst> doubtful starsprout
[21:10] <xTEMPLARx> model number should be printed on one of the labels on the bottom
[21:12] <starsprout> Presario CQ81
[21:12] <starsprout> is there a way to login to the KDE user with a boot disk?
[21:16] <starsprout> dang - I can't even see the files because it's ecryptfs
[21:17] <xTEMPLARx> that'll learn ye!
[21:17] <xTEMPLARx> all the time encrypting yer files
[21:18] <starsprout> :-) this was the first time I ever tried, on this here box. #fail
[21:18] <starsprout> lol
[21:18] <starsprout> it won't accept the login passphrase
[21:20] <xTEMPLARx> hrm
[21:25] <starsprout> fun.
[21:25] <starsprout> there's gotta be a way to get back into KDE
[21:28] <wrst> i just don't have any files that are that important
[21:28] <wrst> starsprout: its a sign, KDE hates you ;)
[21:29] <wrst> hmm you could loginto a root shell and install gnome
[21:29] <wrst> but that's not the most desierable thing to do
[21:31] <starsprout> how can I login to root from grub? if I get in there I can at least access my home directory I think
[21:31] <xTEMPLARx> well, grub just dictates boot params
[21:32] <xTEMPLARx> i think the trick is, you need to boot up in a different runlevel, and one which doesn't boot to KDE by default
[21:32] <wrst> starsprout: you would want to use the recovery console, but that doesn't seem to be working...
[21:32] <xTEMPLARx> assuming KDE is the problem
[21:32] <xTEMPLARx> and not something else underlying
[21:32] <wrst> starsprout: you have a usb keyboard and mouse?
[21:32] <wrst> yes and it could be something else as much as i wish to blame it on kde
[21:33] <starsprout> booting grub with "noacpi" did nothing :-(
[22:11] <starsprout> oh well I give up for now (kubuntu channel no help either)
[22:11] <starsprout> thanks y'all for your help! :-)


[00:40] <user|75> Hi my positivo duo q 432A not working, stopped at startup screen where does the kubuntu logo appear
[02:59] <mybalzitch> fixed, still broken, thrown out the window? we'll never know
 Any command to restore all audio settings back to default??
[11:39] <user|2> Hi Nick, shot question?
[11:40] <user|2> Kubuntu and 32 bit Atom n270, 1 GB RAM / should it work?
[12:36] <mparillo> I predict pain.
[12:45] <user|65> Hello guys, I have a question regarding geforce rtx 3060. Currently I have kubuntu 22.04 and on my acer nitro 5 laptop with has rtx 3060mobile (as a laptop) gpu i am trying to connect to external display with hdmi, however no video signal error appears, any ideas?
[12:46] <user|65> O:3
[12:59] <skir> I saw other having the same issue:
[12:59] <skir> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1403882/since-upgrading-acer-laptop-to-22-04-external-moniter-is-not-recognized/1405762#1405762
[13:00] <skir> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1421022/ubuntu-22-04-external-monitor-getting-no-input-from-laptop
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:09] <skir> Hey!
[13:27] <skir> I have a question regarding geforce rtx 3060. Currently I have kubuntu 22.04 and on my acer nitro 5 laptop with has rtx 3060mobile (as a laptop) gpu i am trying to connect to external display with hdmi, however no video signal error appears, any ideas?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> skir, run xrandr in the terminal to check if the monitor is listed
[14:01] <skir> nop, not listed
[14:01] <skir> i tried that using manjaro, kubuntu, ubuntu etc ;D
[14:06] <BluesKaj> check this out, never used it myself but it might help in your case https://kfocus.org/wf/displays.html
[14:06] <skir> thank you!
[14:07] <BluesKaj> thank me if it works :-)
[14:08] <skir> in the display settings, i can not find external monitor
[14:08] <skir> and my external monitor does not show any indicators that it's been connected to pc
[14:08] <skir> i was thinking this is issue due to rtx 3060 gpu
[14:09] <skir> and nvidia closed drivers
[14:09] <RikMills> my focus has a RTX 3060 and the HDMI -> external monitor works, but only with Nvidia
[14:09] <skir> hmm interesting
[14:09] <BluesKaj> does nvidia still supply a  gui/settings?
[14:09] <skir> is your rtx 3060 stationary or laptop?
[14:10] <RikMills> laptop
[14:10] <skir> i am not sure about gui
[14:10] <skir> gotcha RikMills
[14:10] <skir> perhaps do you have acer nitro 5?
[14:10] <RikMills> skir: nope. by focus I mean I have this: https://kfocus.org/spec/spec-m2.html
[14:11] <skir> also, i am thinking about buying extra 1tb ssd to boost only kubuntu.
[14:11] <skir> okay, got it.
[14:11] <skir> gotta go, see u later!
[14:11] <skir> thanks for the help
 On my Lenovo Legion laptop, the HDMI port is tied directly discrete graphics card and does not work unless On-demand or NVidia (Performance Mode) PRIME profiles are selected (NVidia Setting menu or prime-select from command line).
[14:23] <RikMills> same
[14:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> @DarinMiller RikMills : That means that your Nvidia chipset "owns" your HDMI ports and your intel graphics cannot access the hdmi ports alone.
[14:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> Imagine in a desktop computer the HDMI ports on a Nvidia PCI card vs the ones on the mainboard. The mainboard ones would be your integrated graphics, while your PCI ones would be your Nvidia ones.
[14:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> Similar situation.
 Correct, but in my case the integrated graphics are AMD. 😊
[14:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> @DarinMiller Yeah, semantics. :)
[14:33] <BluesKaj> no more nvidia added graphics here. the intel onboard graphics work great on my HDMI connected large screen tv
[14:35] <BluesKaj> actually display port to HDMI adapter cable :-)
[14:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> BluesKaj: There's good reason for having Nvidia graphics, not only for gaming performance, but also for deep machine learning and for artificial intelligence-based workflows. That's something that intel CPUs with integrated graphics can't do efficiently on their own.
 Been asking for help on my headphone port not recognizing, and I'm pretty sure it's a driver problem.
 I'll be really grateful if one can assist me on this, I've tried so many options
 I'm running kubuntu 22.04
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Eickmeyer[m], no kidding, but I'm a user not on the job or a dev so...
[14:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> BluesKaj: Right, but there's a lot of detractors. :)
[14:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> @PJTunes: Have you tried other channels for help? If you open Konversation and type "/join #ubuntu" they might be able to help too. It's likely not a driver problem.
[14:40] <Eickmeyer[m]> @PJtunes: The reason I say this is because if you're not getting an answer it's because nobody in here likely knows the answer.
 Ok I'll check this (re @IrcsomeBot: <Eickmeyer[m]> @PJTunes: Have you tried other channels for help? If you open Konversation and type "/join #ubuntu" they might be able to help too. It's likely not a driver problem.)
 Oh yh
 Alright I understand (re @IrcsomeBot: <Eickmeyer[m]> @PJtunes: The reason I say this is because if you're not getting an answer it's because nobody in here likely knows the answer.)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> @PJtunes, which audio chip?
[14:44] <oerheks> joining #ubuntu means you need to use a normal irc client
 PulseAudio
 Headphone device (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> @PJtunes, which audio chip?)
[14:46] <BluesKaj> pulse is an app, run aplay -l in the terminal for playback device(s)
 To enable sound on my Lenovo Laptop, I had to use a 5.18 kernel (or newer) and the pipewire ppa with wireplumber. Directions here: https://pipewire-debian.github.io/pipewire-debian/ (re @PJtunes: Been asking for help on my headphone port not recognizing, and I'm pretty sure it's a driver problem.
 I'll be really grateful if one can assist me on this, I've tried so many options
 I'm running kubuntu 22.04)
 Okay (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> pulse is an app, run aplay -l in the terminal for playback device(s))
 Okay thanks (re @DarinMiller: To enable sound on my Lenovo Laptop, I had to use a 5.18 kernel (or newer) and the pipewire ppa with wireplumber. Directions here: https://pipewire-debian.github.io/pipewire-debian/)
[14:50] <BluesKaj> gawd that damn telegram is annoying..all that repitition
 Oh mine? (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> gawd that damn telegram is annoying..all that repitition)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> wish telegram users would use a real irc client
 Command not found (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> pulse is an app, run aplay -l in the terminal for playback device(s))
[14:55] <BluesKaj> aplay -l
 I got this response
 Playback:3431 (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> aplay -l)
 :you need to specify 1 files
[15:00] <DarinMiller> use lowercase "L" in aplay -l
[15:01] <BluesKaj> thanks DarinMiller, I suspected that :-)
 Ok
 Now showing list of playback hardware devices
 Thanks (re @IrcsomeBot: <DarinMiller> use lowercase "L" in aplay -l)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> @PJtunes, look for the analog device
 Sorry but it isn't displaying any (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> @PJtunes, look for the analog device)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> nothing?
[15:13] <oerheks> maybe share us the laptop moder, and lspci output for your sound device? in a pastebin
[15:13] <oerheks> c/moddel
[15:17] <BluesKaj> waqs going to suggest copy and paste here using the command, sudo lshw -C sound
[15:17] <BluesKaj> here, https://bpa.st/
 Okay
[15:42] <BluesKaj> @PJtunes, I have to leave you in the helpful hands of DarinMiller and oerheks ... later
[16:12] <iomari891> greetings, my clipboard has one mad. Any selection I make oes to te clipboard immediately even tough I ave tat feature turned off. I also cant run klipper directly. I et te error "kf.dbusaddons: Couldn't register name 'org.kde.klipper' with DBUS - another process owns it already!"
 That one gets shared by default :)
 NTD9
[22:43] <valorie> Colti: please change your /part message. This is a family-friendly channel
 Hi, I think I have malicious code getting through when installing from live environment, despite having verified checksum creating the usb, I get this
 CasperMD5CheckMismatches: ./pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-470_470.141.03-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb
 with lots of issues following
 Does anyone know something about this?
 kubuntu kernel: [    0.135531] Unknown kernel command line parameters "maybe-ubiquity splash --- BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed", will be passed to user space.