[06:14] <pepper_chico> it keeps there after the switch, it may take long or not to hide
[06:14] <[[thufir]]> usr13: I already did that, I'll do it again.
[06:14] <pepper_chico> it hides after a "clear"
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: you mean the black bar from unity itself?
[06:15] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, yes
[06:15] <Laca> Hi All,
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: you cant hide this on fullscreen, this is the way unity works now
[06:15] <usr13> [[thufir]]: sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:16] <Laca> I'd like to ask some help regarding mkfifo
[06:16] <KI7MT> Yep was goign to say that. sounds like a clean is needed.
[06:16] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, it hides, after I type "clear"  goes aways
[06:16] <LinuxGold> should apt-get autoremove work as well?
[06:16] <pepper_chico> s/aways/away/
[06:16] <usr13> [[thufir]]: sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:17] <usr13> LinuxGold: yes
[06:17] <pepper_chico> my problem is that, it should never be there for a fullscreen window, it keeps over the text of the bash window, over the text on the first line
[06:17] <pepper_chico> which sometimes, hides text
[06:17] <usr13> [[thufir]]: Any luck?
[06:17] <pepper_chico> and is completely annoying
[06:18] <[[thufir]]> usr13: no, same results.  I did that and more, I'll do the autoremove.  same error message as the script I pasted.
[06:18] <KI7MT> there not the same, autoremove takes away pkgs that were installed and no longer needed, orphaned if you will,  where autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files.
[06:18] <usr13> [[thufir]]: Yea, try autoremove
[06:18] <Laca> I'd like to controll an mplayer instance, and when I do it from a terminal after I've logged in, everything works fine, but when I put the commands into an init.d script, I can not write to the fifo .
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: im not sure i completely understand you, but i think unity confuses you
[06:19] <lgc> Hi. This is probably an old topic, but I just found out that my touchpad isn't working, either in Ubuntu or in Windows. I noticed that after a live boot. What gives?
[06:20] <usr13> I've  got to leave.... so...
[06:20] <[[thufir]]> nope, same result after autoremove (which removed a few packages)
[06:20] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, maybe you didn't understand, that's is not a global menu for a maximized window, my bash is fullscreen, and that top menu is a defect, because for fullscreen window it should be hidden
[06:20] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, just after putting a bash window in fullscreen, there no such top menu bar, it's just the fullscreen bash
[06:21] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], sudo sh -c "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade;apt-get autoremove;apt-get autoclean"
[06:21] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, only when it looses focus, that annoying top menu shows up
[06:21] <pepper_chico> and take a while to hide, or after I clear the bash
[06:21] <wildc4rd> just had an internal error from module-init-tools 3.16-1ubuntu2, any ideas what this is or how to remedy it?
[06:23] <KI7MT> wildc4rd, paste-bin the error, maybe somebody can help with it if the know more about it.
[06:23] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT:  ok, I think I did all that, but I'll do it again.
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: i dont understand where your going mate, your pic shows black top panel 'terminal' fullscreen and terminal text going under it...whats the problem now?
[06:25] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], after that, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <wildc4rd> KI7MT, where will I find the log please, I can't copy from the error screen
[06:27] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, can you see that that top menu is cutting text, that's because it's over the text, like when you enable auto-hide for the Launcher and sometimes it keeps over some window
[06:27] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, and then, hides afterwards
[06:28] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, my bash is on fullscreen state, it should take all the screen
[06:28] <KI7MT> wildc4rd, pass, depends on what's failing. what is failing and when is it failing ?
[06:28] <pepper_chico> and it does, except when that top menu shows up
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: thats what i wanna try telling you, you can fullscreen without top panel, thats how unity works now
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> cant
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: the terminal text cutting, is text you scrolling above, acting normally
[06:29] <pepper_chico> ..., but that top panel is not fixed
[06:29] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: it still leads back to this:  (old pastie, but same thing)   paste.ubuntu.com/6073556
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: fixed in what way?
[06:29] <pepper_chico> it pops up out of a defect
[06:29] <pepper_chico> it's not part of the window
[06:30] <pepper_chico> putting a bash into fullscreen
[06:30] <pepper_chico> it does not show
[06:30] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], even with --no-install-recommends ?
[06:30] <pepper_chico> I get a fullscreen bash
[06:30] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: yes, the exact same error.
[06:30] <pepper_chico> that thing shows, when I go to other workspace, and then back
[06:30] <wildc4rd> KI7MT, only seems to be module-init-tools 3.16-1ubuntu2, and only once at startup. next time I restart (could be a while) I'll get some further details and pastebin it. Thanks for the help.
[06:31] <Laca> Hi all,
[06:32] <Laca> any advice regarding mkfifo?
[06:32] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: paste.ubuntu.com/6073619   for with --no-install
[06:33] <KI7MT> wildc4rd, module-init is a loader for the kernel, so could be  a bad module, path all sorts of things, let us know when ya got more info.
[06:34] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje,  and that cutting of text is not normal, one common problem I face is when I'm on the first line, at the top of the screen, and then go to another workspace and the back, the top menu now covers my cursor, if I start typing I cannot even see what I'm typing because of the stupid menu that over the bash window
[06:35] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], drop the gnome-icon thing, we can deal with that separately.
[06:35] <KI7MT> AND, use sudo apt-get install. YOu should not be using root
[06:36] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: oh, yeah, I don't care, it's just where it leads to.  I'm just using root at the moment because I'm running lotsa commands through it.
[06:36] <KI7MT> root and sudo are two very different things on a sudo system.
[06:37] <[[thufir]]> heh, I mean, I don't care about the gnome-icon thing, it's just the thing that everyhting else seems to depend upon...ok, I'll try sudo.
[06:37] <KI7MT> Log out of the root account and into a normal user that is in the sudo user group.
[06:39] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: ok.  I did that, and get the same error message about broken packages
[06:40] <marloshouse> how can i give a single network port two IP addresses, one static one dhcp, is that possible? (13.04 server)
[06:41] <KI7MT> [[thufir]],As SUDO user, not Roo, re=run:  sudo sh -c "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade;apt-get autoremove;apt-get autoclean"  .. then ... sudo apt-get -f lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends
[06:43] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: ok.
[06:43] <KI7MT> marloshouse, you can do it, technically, but you'll have routing problems. whay would you want both?
[06:44] <marloshouse> well, i guess i don't really need both, i just need a static ip on the box, i'll just do that.
[06:46] <marloshouse> my concern was i was remoting in to the box, and i didn't want to loose connectivity while i set up a static ip
[06:46] <randmuser> Hello, is there any decent search tool for ubuntu 13.04? I used to run gnome-search-tool but it's not available through repositories.
[06:47] <KI7MT> marloshouse, if you need static, easy enough, assign if from your router, or host files. DHCP not reallt the best option for server IP's, but for those being served IP's by the server, then yes DHCP is good.
[06:47] <Sticks> Hi all, I have Gnome 3 running on Ubuntu 13 and the menus aren't working in Kdenlive. They work fine in Unity. Why could this be happening?
[06:47] <KI7MT> randmuser, what ya searching for?
[06:47] <marloshouse> yea, i'll have to just set up static from the head
[06:47] <marloshouse> but, what does one do when the box is headless?
[06:48] <randmuser> KI7MT: I want to search a folder i remotly connected to. If i search inside nautilus is start searching my local computer (and I dont like the fact that they give you very little on the result)
[06:48] <KI7MT> marloshouse, use allot of terminal programs: Tasksel is your friend :-)
[06:49] <marloshouse> tasksel?
[06:49] <KI7MT> open terminal on your server, type sudo tasksel
[06:49] <marloshouse> randmuser, i use 'mc' when i'm in a terminal for searching for things
[06:49] <marloshouse> KI7MT, oh... my lookie there
[06:50] <randmuser> Well I used to be able to do this in gnome-search-tool, so why is ubuntu removing my features? Or are they avaiable somehow?
[06:50] <randmuser> My workflow is way faster in a decent gui compared to terminal
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> Sticks, gnome 3 is the desktop underneath unity, the fallback and the gnome shell, which might your be?
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> yours*
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> kubuntu to some extent to I believe
[06:51] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: it's still exactly the same error, about broken packages.  I ran all that from sudo
[06:52] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], man .. this one got me stuck too .. I suspect you have a corrupt cache or fail list, but not sure now that this root thing is there, maybe even permission issues.
[06:53] <Sticks> wilee-nilee: I installed gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop similar to the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[06:54] <xtriz> Sticks, is that stable or there are bugs in gnome3 ?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> Sticks, 3.8 is a ppa and not technically supported here in 13.04, I tried it a little while ago and found it a bit problematic, it is in 13.10 howerver.
[06:55] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: ok. on to other things!  I just want to startx.  I have xubuntu-desktop installed on 12.04LTS but startx doesn't work.  I *think* my graphics card bit the dust, but shouldn't I still be able to run something like that from the onboard graphics card?  I tried startx.
[06:56] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], I would think so, yes, but the whole not being able to install thing is an issue. Have you tried to install any other desktops ?
[06:57] <Sticks> wilee-nilee, xtriz: Cheers. It runs pretty well from my experience. This menu not working is the first problem I've really encountered with it. So I'm better off waiting for 13.10 and this might not be an issue?
[06:57] <sponix> Anyone in here used Ksplice and OpenVZ before ?
[06:58] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: I installed, err, xubuntu-desktop and ??jvm?  something like that.
[06:58] <xtriz> Sticks, by 13.10 they wll be using gnome3.8 tll i best remember.
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> Sticks, The main point is that it is not supported here, so you may get help, it may take a long time, and it may be from people who are just willing to help without really knowing any real answer.
[06:59] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], so the original installation was with xubuntu-desktop and are you able to log in there?
[06:59] <sponix> Dropping into this conversation late (Sorry) -- Sticks: What is the issue/problem ?
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> Sticks, There is a #kdenlive channel however small user base on the channel says there it may take awhile, but an option.
[07:00] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: no, it was 12.04LTS which was with unity.  I removed unity (foolishly) and cannot get xubuntu started.
[07:01] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], Oh man .. ok, just for info, how did you remove Unity ?
[07:01] <steve_fi> heya, anyone have any idea if there's decent drivers for the Intel GMA 3650 (PowerVR SGX 545) in 13.04 or 13.10?
[07:02] <[[thufir]]> apt-get purge unity
[07:02] <Sticks> sponix: I'm running Kdenlive in Gnome 3.8 and the menu isn't responding. It appears, but clicking on 'File' for example does nothing.
[07:02] <Sticks> Cheers, wilee-nilee, I'll try there as well.
[07:02] <UndrWater> steve_fi: embedded?
[07:02] <steve_fi> UndrWater, I think so, it's an Atom tablet, so my money is on yeah
[07:03] <sponix> Sticks: You can't fix that ? Seems like a simple kill/respawn to me
[07:03] <UndrWater> steve_fi: atom is not quite embedded...which tablet?
[07:04] <Laca> Anybody with knowledge of FIFOs?
[07:04] <steve_fi> UndrWater, Asus VivoTab ME400C and the Acer Iconia W3 8"
[07:04] <sponix> Sticks: example in gnome(cough 2) you can ps ax|grep panel ... it shows gnome-panel as the process name, and a simple kill -9 gnome-panel forces it to respawn (forces updates to the panel too if you just installed a new program)
[07:05] <KI7MT> steve_fi, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[07:05] <steve_fi> cheers KI7MT  :)
[07:05] <[[thufir]]> am I running startx "correctly" to start xubuntu?  paste.ubuntu.com/6073526
[07:05] <sponix> Laca: First-In-First-Out ?
[07:06] <Laca> yes.
[07:06] <UndrWater> sweet...still looking for something that easy for the igepv2
[07:06] <sponix> Laca: Doing what, firewall rules ?
[07:06] <Laca> not,
[07:06] <sponix> Laca: File Sockets ?
[07:06] <Laca> controlling an mplayer instance
[07:07] <sponix> Laca: Aww, not sure I would have gotten that with 10 guesses :P
[07:07] <Laca> my problem is that when I do it from a terminal, after I've logged in, it works fine.
[07:07] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], normall is: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop / start, restart
[07:07] <Laca> but if I put the initialization commands into an init.d script,
[07:07] <Sticks> sponix: Cheers for that, but I'm not exactly following what you're saying.  ps ax|grep in terminal shows: 13752 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto panel
[07:07] <Laca> later I can not write into the FIFO
[07:08] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: thx
[07:08] <Laca> the question is not related with the mplayer, but the FIFO itself.
[07:09] <Laca> I think.
[07:09] <sponix> Sticks: "ps ax|grep panel" was to find your "*-panel" process name, then you "kill" it ;)
[07:09] <sponix> Laca: for fsck sake, just ask the question and we can see if anyone knows how to help
[07:10] <path0gen> ^
[07:10] <sponix> Sticks: issue is your panel (menu) isn't responding, riiight ?
[07:10] <[[thufir]]> I don't have /etc/init.d/xdm   to run startx
[07:10] <sponix> [[thufir]]: sorry about your bad luck
[07:11] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], that not be good, so sudo restart xdm is no joy ?
[07:12] <Laca> The question is: after I create a FIFO in the init.d with mkfifo -m 0666 /tmp/audio.cmd, and later after logging in, I do an echo mute>/tmp/audio.cmd it is waiting infinitely or till ctrl-c.
[07:12] <Laca> why?
[07:12] <KI7MT> Maybe, if you didn't remove all of Ubuntum, the GDM is still there, sudo restart gdm
[07:12] <iceroot_> [[thufir]]: you are sure you mean gdm and noth lightdm? lightdm is the default since some releases
[07:13] <[[thufir]]> ok, thanks!
[07:13] <[[thufir]]> wait, should I use lightdm?
[07:13] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], normal is: sudo restart lightdm   second would be sudo restart gdm then xdm is all else fails.
[07:14] <Sticks> sponix: Sure is. The problem now though is that searching for the panel process brings up nothing. Maybe it's called something else in 3.8?
[07:14] <sponix> Sticks: You ever used "xkill" ?
[07:14] <KI7MT> iceroot_, he removed Ubuntu desktop, installed xubuntu desktop, and it's failing to install Lubuntu-desktop, Im kinda at the end on this one.
[07:15] <KI7MT> he can't get X to start up at all or lubuntu-desktop to install.
[07:15] <sponix> Laca: seems you are digging in pretty deep for this hour, think its a bit beyond me at the moment. What is your "Overall" goal you are using mplayer for (ripping/encoding ?) ?
[07:15] <[[thufir]]> it's probably precipitated by hardware problem.  yeah, it's unknown job for all those "start lightdm" et. al.
[07:15] <Sticks> sponix: Nope. Is now the time?
[07:16] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: thanks for giving the context.  (I'll buy you a virtual beer :)
[07:16] <KI7MT> Yeah, single malt would do at this point :-)
[07:16] <Laca> I'd like to build a headless audio player controlled by a webpage on it.
[07:16] <sponix> Sticks: "man xkill" ... you can simply run "xkill" in a terminal/console (whatever the kids call the command line these days). then point the magic X (skull&crossbones) at the Menu and Kicks its lily *ss ?
[07:17] <UndrWater> Laca: ices?
[07:17] <Laca> ices?
[07:18] <Sticks> sponix: Well that sounds fun. I'll try that.
[07:18] <Laca> sorry, don't understand...
[07:18] <Flannel> Laca: There's a few choices.  mpd is a popular one, it allows a variety of frontends, including some web page stuff.
[07:18] <sponix> Laca: Ices is a mp3/audio server .. Ya know, the pre-built type that doesn't require all this work
[07:18] <Flannel> Laca: ices is a source client for icecast, which is an audio streaming server
[07:19] <sponix> actually VLC has a lot of remote playing capability as well
[07:19] <Laca> ok, I'll give it a try! :)
[07:19] <Flannel> sponix: I don't think he wants "remote playing", just headless.
[07:19] <sponix> Never _used_ it, but the streaming can do large broadcast, started out by those damm college kids streaming their pirated movies back and forth ! ... Thank them ;)
[07:20] <sponix> Flannel: yeah, umm... I do tend to get carried away
[07:21] <sponix> Sticks: you kill that troublesome menu yet ?
[07:21] <Laca> I don't want to stream media, but would like to play streamed ones and local files as well.
[07:22] <Flannel> Laca: Any media player that provides a web frontend will work.  I'm sure there's a few.
[07:22] <Sticks> sponix: It killed the Kdenlive program just fine, but did nothing for the menu. It's the Kdenlive menu that's buggered, not the Gnome menu.
[07:22]  * sponix looks up Kdenlive to see WTF it is
[07:23] <Laca> As I have no X (ubuntu 12.04 server) I need media player without gui and x dependencies.
[07:23] <KI7MT> It's a free open source vid editor ... or so the website says :-)
[07:23] <sponix> Sticks: Awww.. I'm tracking a bit more now
[07:23] <sponix> Sticks: you got a screen snap of what your menu looks like, and another of what it should look like ?
[07:24] <sponix> KI7MT: I'm so far behind the times I thought Kdenlive was another damm spin-off of ubuntu, like a LiveCD/DVD !
[07:25] <KI7MT> I had to go looky too, thought it was some sorta ThumbDrive spinoff :-)
[07:26] <helmut_> hi
[07:27] <sponix> Sticks: program probably has a .kdenlive preferences directory to store its settings, chances are removing that will return the menu (and everything else about the program) back to the defaults
[07:28] <KI7MT> :-) If it's a smart program, it would.
[07:29] <sponix> might be under .config/kdenlive as well
[07:30] <ASHER1> Hey
[07:30] <sponix> KI7MT: yeah, it looks fairly modern. Should follow the standards
[07:30] <ASHER1> hello
[07:30] <ASHER1> Hello
[07:30] <KI7MT> Several concerns, there UB/Debian sections says, Upgrade to Unstable, Use Root, Dist-Upgrade .. not so good those things.
[07:31] <sponix> KI7MT: You having an issue ?
[07:31] <KI7MT> Oh no, not me ...
[07:31] <Sticks> sponix: The menu's here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sticks38/Screenshotfrom2013-09-07172852_zps36a1f492.png
[07:31] <sponix> Good, because after taking another leak its my bedtime
[07:31] <venus_> hello can anyone tell me how to use audio line  Blue for audio out as it is broken it work with realtek audio manager in windows but how to do this in ubuntu
[07:32] <Sticks> Clicking on a menu item toggles the selected style of the item (it looks to pop out and highlight a bit) but doesn't drop open
[07:34] <sponix> Sticks: Was the Menu _Ever_ Working ? And if so, when was the last time it did, and what recent changes have been made ?
[07:35] <Sticks> sponix: Never working. I've only recently installed the program. It works under the Unity environment, but not when I switch to Gnome.
[07:37] <sponix> Sticks: Oh, now that my friend is odd. Have me stumped at this point
[07:39] <Sticks> sponix: It is odd. Thanks for trying!
[07:40] <KI7MT> Sticks, you may want to post in the Kdenlive or KDE desktop forums, they both seem fairly active on this app.
[07:41] <sponix> Sticks: you can "ldd /path/to/kdenlive" to see what libraries it uses, make sure they are in the ld.so.conf path stuff
[07:42] <sponix> outside of that, I'm at a loss :P
[07:44] <Sticks> KI7MT, sponix: Cheers, I'll check those out.
[07:44] <[[thufir]]> for lightdm, when I look at lightdm.conf I don't want to use the unity greeter.  what can I switch that to for xubuntu or something like that?
[07:45] <[[thufir]]> also, the user session for lightdm.conf is ubuntu, can I make that xubuntu?
[07:45] <KI7MT> xdm if for xubuntu I believe need to run a verify that.
[07:46] <KI7MT> LightDM
[07:46] <[[thufir]]> thufir parse KI7MT fail tries to
[07:46] <KI7MT> sudo apt-get install lightdm lightdm-greeter-example-gtk
[07:47] <karab44> hello
[07:47] <KI7MT> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[07:47] <karab44> I have problem with wacom tablet. It works bad, it's very laggy
[07:47] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: thx
[07:47] <karab44> It's a graphire bluetooth tablet
[07:48] <KI7MT> then sudo stop gdm && sudo start lightdm  .. assuming you an install them all.
[07:48] <ripthejacker> !virtualbox
[07:49] <ripthejacker> !poll
[07:49] <KI7MT> 4.2.16 also has a bad memory leak
[07:50] <KI7MT> Vbox 4.2.16 that is.
[07:50] <karab44> of course there are such apps. Most of apps suffers of poor quality, unstability or lack of functionality. Don't say there are no worse or better  apps
[07:53] <karab44> I experience serious lag using wacom tablet. Is my i7 too slow?
[07:53] <ripthejacker> KI7MT: so which one do you use
[07:54] <ikonia> karab44: visual lag ?
[07:55] <vlt> Hello. Which xserver pkg might be missing when I get error messages about missing a "xv adaptor for this display"?
[07:55] <vlt> How to find out which driver is used currently?
[07:55] <karab44> That's a good question. What kind of lags we distinguish? Hardly to say, but generally yes, I move pen and pointer moves with delay.
[07:56] <viveksingh> Hai friends Today I switched to ubuntu
[07:56] <dino> hey hi
[07:56] <karab44> viveksingh: welcome
[07:57] <viveksingh> I am bored with windows .... But don't what to do after installing ubuntu
[07:57] <ikonia> karab44: I suspect the problem is with your video card config, rather than your cpu/arch
[07:57] <karab44> ikonia: Yes, I am listening
[07:57] <dino> is there any way to access the process task-structure
[07:57] <ikonia> process task structure ?
[07:58] <viveksingh> Karab44: can u please tell me the basic things what to do after installing ubuntu server
[07:58] <ikonia> karab44: what video card do you have in this machine ?
[07:59] <dino> yes process task structure
[07:59] <ikonia> dino: what do you mean ?
[07:59] <karab44> ikonia: GB 570GTX 1024 SuperOverclocked
[07:59] <[[thufir]]> whoot!  I ran "lightdm" from err, what's it called, console mode? it gave me an error about "limited graphics mode".  now, I'm in a messed up unity.  I can move the mouse around, but icons do not respond to clicks. well, some stuff does, but most does not.
[07:59] <karab44> viveksingh: it depends what exactly you want to do. If you want website install apache
[07:59] <KI7MT> ripthejacker, Sorry, I was off reading, I use Vbox, 4.2.18 as of today, was merely stating, it had a bad bug.
[07:59] <ikonia> karab44: ok, so it's possible you may need to use the nvidia xorg modules, or force use of the open nvidia xorg modules, depending on your current state
[08:00] <ripthejacker> KI7MT: have you used kvm?
[08:01] <KI7MT> KVM-IP ?
[08:01] <[[thufir]]> it's very weird.  I can put the mouse on things, they will hightlight.  I can rightclick, but not left click.  this happened literally, all of sudden earlier today.  assuming it's not the mouse, what could this be?
[08:01] <karab44> ikonia: It would be a great tutorial for me, educating myself about X system. Honestly :) . I am still confused about all these X, Xfree86, waylands, GLX, XGL and others... Maybe this task will cast some brightness to this area of my knowledge.
[08:02] <ikonia> karab44: sadly, there is not real 'good' tutorial that I know of,
[08:02] <ikonia> karab44: for your system - all you are interested in is "xorg", which is "X"
[08:03] <ikonia> karab44: the question you need answering is 1.) what xorg module is your machine currently using 2.) what is the module you should be using 3.) what is the best way for me to set it
[08:03] <[[thufir]]> how can I reconfigure lightdm to just use xfce?  xubuntu-desktop?
[08:03] <KI7MT> X is is kinda like Kernel Code .. it's written in Wizard Code :-)
[08:03] <karab44> Does it have something to do with nvidia proprietary graphic drivers?
[08:03] <Aku506> Hello! How can i remap buttons 8 and 9 to scroll screen horizontaly?
[08:03] <KI7MT> xface is the default for xubuntu.
[08:04] <ikonia> karab44: the answers for me will be (without looking into it properly) 1.) noveu 2.) nvidia 3.) install the nvidia properitary modules and use nvidia-settings to force it to be used in your xorg.conf file
[08:04] <karab44> ikonia: it's not an easy task. First I'll have to find out what kind of module do I actually use.
[08:05] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[08:05] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: thanks.  you gonna stay up another five hours to fix this with me?  :)  LOL
[08:05] <KI7MT> Not likely :-)
[08:05] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: do you think this could be bad video card?  can I test it? diagnostic?
[08:06] <student> how to find malware process?
[08:06] <ikonia> karab44: I suspect you're using noveu or "nv" - which is the open nvidia drivers
[08:06] <ikonia> student: why do you think you have one ?
[08:06] <KI7MT> Low Graphics mode points toward HW or Driver, but .. just a guess.
[08:06] <karab44> ikonia: how to check it?
[08:06] <[[thufir]]> student: are you sure that's what you mean?
[08:06] <student> yes
[08:06] <ikonia> karab44: you'll see it in the xorg.0.log
[08:06] <student> is any budy know about it??
[08:07] <ikonia> student: why do you think you have malware
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> student: you do know that it malware (if present) could be masked as something else, finding it manually would take hours
[08:08] <KI7MT> LMD is your frend
[08:08] <student> but how to do this manually?
[08:08] <ikonia> student: why do you think you have malware
[08:08] <aeon-ltd> student: answer ikonia's question first
[08:08] <student> i am doing project on it.
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> student: to show the most inefficient way to find malware?
[08:09] <ikonia> student: there is no such thing as a "standard way" you see symptoms and trace/track the symptoms to the problem
[08:10] <[[thufir]]> in my xorg log I don't see anything about "low graphics mode" I tried grep on low, nothing related.  what can I look for, or where, to find out more?
[08:10] <student> there is any way to differentiate between malware and benign process?
[08:10] <aeon-ltd> student: like a doctor doing a differential diagnosis, or use a malware scanner
[08:10] <ikonia> student: you need symptoms - if you have none, this is a pointless discussion
[08:11] <KI7MT> LDM is a huge subject to think about, refining the scope would probable yield a much better paper.
[08:11] <student> i want to do this using programming ..
[08:11] <ikonia> student: this isn't really anything to do with ubuntu then
[08:11] <dino> hey what is xorg
[08:11] <ikonia> dino: the display server for linux
[08:11] <karab44> KI7MT: pardon mate, what kind of memory leak you mentioned. I have this version of vbox
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> student: you want to build a malware scanner that has a database of one? this is ridiculous
[08:12] <KI7MT> karab44, I don' have the source, what I did have was a machine that could reproduce the problem, windows host, UB VM, ram gust kept growing.
[08:13] <karab44> KI7MT: Is it official bug? Did you report it?
[08:13] <dino> hey is there any  site where i can get the source code for bloGTK
[08:13] <KI7MT> I can't find one, but they up-reved to 4.2.18 today, so I'm watching this one.
[08:15] <student> how can monitor malware??????
[08:15] <[[thufir]]> I really, really, don't think I have a bad mouse.  but, I can't left click anything. in firefox, I can right click a link, the menu comes up, I *right* click "open in new tab".  is that normal?  I'm in unity, somehow, even though I thought I'd removed it...
[08:15] <Hemebond> I have just installed and configured isc-dhcp-server on an Ubuntu server but the server itself can't resolve names (DNS). /etc/resolv.conf has localhost as the nameserver. How do I fix this to properly point to the upstream DNS server?
[08:16] <Ben64> student: how is this relating to ubuntu support
[08:16] <Hemebond> Also, the /etc/network/interfaces file has the correct DNS server.
[08:16] <KI7MT> dino, first item in googgle search: https://launchpad.net/blogtk/
[08:17] <Hemebond> In the dns-nameservers entry.
[08:17] <dry[1]> hi. java is not working on my ubuntu. how to fix it, plz?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> !java | dry[1]
[08:18] <Ben64> !resolvconf | Hemebond, i think you're looking for this
[08:19] <Hemebond> Thanks Ben64, I've already read those.
[08:19] <dry[1]> Dr_Willis: It's working on my browsers only. Related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171255
[08:19] <john_john> How do I erase a dvd with ubuntu so I can install another iso on it? Only half of the space is used.
[08:19] <Hemebond> Ben64: Ah, I rebooted the server again and now /etc/resolv.conf has the correct values.
[08:19] <bekks> john_john: Is it a DVD-RW?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> john_john:  it is a rewriteable dvd?
[08:19] <Hemebond> Very strange.
[08:19] <karab44> KI7MT: I found some documentation about it, probably still not fixed ...
[08:20] <dan123> hello, how can I automatically mount a webdav drive at startup? I am looking to have my Box.com account mounted automatically. I added a line in fstab and added the secret file and added the used to the group davfs2 but it is not mounting it
[08:20] <dan123> when I run mount /path/ it works
[08:20] <[[thufir]]> 1.) should /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults be a non-human readable file?  cat output is strange. 2.)  to configure that for xfce4, xubuntu, what's the syntax:  lightdm-set-defaults <???>
[08:21] <mathfreak> dan123: Is there an "auto" option on the fstab?
[08:21] <KI7MT> karab44, Yeah, it was bad enough that I could watch my RAM monitor increase.
[08:21] <john_john> bekks: It's dvd-r, does that mean I wont be able to use the leftover space?
[08:21] <dan123> mathfreak:  https://dav.box.com/dav /home/pi/box  davfs  rw,noexec,auto,user,async,_netdev,uid=pi,gid=pi  0  0
[08:21] <bekks> john_john: Correct.
[08:21] <dino> john_john:its not possible to write the dvd again if you have writen it has iso
[08:21] <Ben64> [[thufir]]: it's an executable file
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> dan123:  also wheres your end mountpoint? is it in the users home?  -  is your users Homes encrypted?
[08:21] <john_john> fak
[08:21] <john_john> okay
[08:21] <bekks> john_john: A DVD-R can be written to only once.
[08:21] <bekks> john_john: Thats the difference between -R and -RW.
[08:22] <[[thufir]]> Ben64: ok. thx.
[08:22] <dan123> Dr_Willis: no, its not encrypted. The mountpoint is in /var/www/Box
[08:22] <dan123> which I changed in fstab
[08:23] <student> how to check process descriptor???
[08:23] <[[thufir]]> I see:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/179148/set-default-user-session-to-xfce4  but no correct answer for lightdm sessionsyntax.
[08:24] <Ben64> [[thufir]]: what are you trying to accomplish
[08:25] <dan123> Dr_Willis: I added this line in fstab https://dav.box.com/dav /var/www/Box  davfs  rw,noexec,auto,user,async,_netdev,uid=pi,gid=pi  0  0
[08:25] <[[thufir]]> I want to set lightdm to not use unity (would rather just uninstall unity) and strictly use xfce.  I don't know whetherI have mouse or video card or driver problem, but it's hard to click on things and change settings, etc.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> dan123:  so auto mounting fails. but if you later do a sudo mount /var/www/Box it works?
[08:26] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], based on earlier context, you ant to change the greeter ?
[08:26] <dan123> Dr_Willis: yes
[08:27] <dino> hey how do i change the nice value of a process
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> dan123:  err.. im not totally sure but i THINK uid and gid need to be the actual #### not the  name of the user and group also
[08:27] <Ben64> [[thufir]]: just choose xfce when you're logging in
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> dan123:  its possible theres some timeout going on. You could mount the thing from /etc/rc.local after a bit of a delay. that lets the system networking get all setup
[08:28] <john_john> Dr_Willis: Okay so I found a used dvd-rw, how do I erase the content so i can install an iso on it instead?
[08:28] <dino> how do i manually unmount a usb
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> john_john:  the  cd/dvd burning front ends normally have a 'blank disk' option
[08:29] <dan123> Dr_Willis: I think I like that idea better, how can I add a delay there?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> dino:  sudo umount /mountpoint/of/the/device
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> dan123:  of course. its just a script. somthing like sleep 30 && mount whatever
[08:29] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], is you simpley want GTK greeter v.s. unity then: sudo /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and change too: greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> !mount | dino
[08:30] <[[thufir]]> Ben64: I cannot choose xfce4 because the mouse doesn't work properly.  either video card, driver or mouse problem.
[08:30] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], you can also add the default desktop on the .conf also.
[08:31] <student> how to mount usb
[08:31] <[[thufir]]> aha. ~/.conf?
[08:31] <KI7MT> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[08:33] <[[thufir]]> heh, no that's I"m asking. what's "word" to use? xfce? xfce4? xubuntu?  a guy on askubuntu tried the them all.
[08:33] <component> kjhj
[08:33] <component> k.
[08:33] <component> l
[08:33] <[[thufir]]> and I htought I had mouse/keyboard problems!  ;)
[08:34] <karab44> what was this cute command to print output to pastebin?
[08:35] <bekks> karab44: pastebinit
[08:35] <xmetal> i a mnot sure why, but it has been awhile sinec i messed with rewritable stuff
[08:36] <xmetal> oops @ my fingers ... * i am not sure *
[08:36] <bekks> john_john: There is a menu entry in k3b to do so.
[08:36] <john_john> bekka: yes i saw that, thx
[08:37] <xmetal> k3b is one of those programs I make sure is on any distro i am on :)
[08:37] <karab44> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073946/
[08:37] <karab44>
[08:38] <bekks> xmetal: I only need it when having a dvd burning device :)
[08:38] <karab44> ikonia: could you tell me please what do you see?
[08:39] <[[thufir]]> I'm using lynx and, pardon, cannot get the link for the 13.04 dvd (live) download.  what's the link for the torrent, please?  I can wget it.
[08:40] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], I dont have Xubuntu installed, but I believe should be: greeter-session=xubuntu
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[08:41] <reisio> [[thufir]]: what arch?
[08:41] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], ad you can verify what xsession are available by: ls /user/share/xsessions
[08:42] <reisio> links compatible: http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/
[08:42] <[[thufir]]> reisio: 32bit if that's what you mean
[08:42] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], sri, bad command: ls /usr/share/xsessions
[08:42] <reisio> [[thufir]]: see last
[08:42] <[[thufir]]> thanks guys.
[08:42] <Aku506> Ok. My xbindkeys isn't loading at all. I've tried default examples so my syntax should be OK. What's problem?
[08:42] <reisio> ffr: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[08:42] <reisio> Aku506: what's your environment?
[08:43] <Aku506> Unity
[08:43] <john_john> how do I eject my cd/dvd tray with the terminal? It refuses to open
[08:44] <bekks> john_john: Unmount it and then use "eject".
[08:44] <student> how to make proxy settings in ubuntu??
[08:44] <[[thufir]]> 13.04 i386 iso torrent is that for a live dvd?
[08:44] <reisio> john_john: is its medium's filesystem mounted?
[08:45] <reisio> [[thufir]]: IIRC DVD images are a waste of time to download
[08:45] <[[thufir]]> http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[08:45] <john_john> bekks:  there's nothing in the tray, so there's nothing to umount. It just refuses to open.
[08:45] <reisio> just get the ordinary desktop image
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> [[thufir]]:  the desktop edition is a live dvd
[08:45] <KI7MT> john_john, drutil tray eject 0
[08:45] <reisio> and why torrent when you can download over http
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 ubuntu is a dvd. thats the only size it has
[08:45] <reisio> well there's a minimal image
[08:45] <reisio> the ordinary one just doesn't fit on a CD is all
[08:46] <dino> student,configure you apt.conf file in /etc/apt/
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 lubuntu Might also fit on a cd still
[08:46] <[[thufir]]> thx
[08:46] <reisio> silly to think of them in sizes of antiquated media
[08:46] <john_john> KI7MT where do I enter that? It says it can't find the command drutil
[08:46] <KI7MT> commandline
[08:46] <reisio> that's not a Mac OS command? :p
[08:47] <john_john> KI7MT, the terminal? It can't find the command drutil it says. :(
[08:47] <reisio> john_john: eject or eject -T would be the command, but you might need to make sure nothing in it is mounted first
[08:47] <Aku506> reisio: I'm using Unity
[08:47] <john_john> reisio: the drive is empty
[08:48] <john_john> reisio: that command gives me: COuldn't find or open the device for: "cdrom"
[08:48] <reisio> john_john: maybe it's not well
[08:48] <reisio> john_john: if you can pull it open, go ahead
[08:48] <john_john> I can't
[08:48] <reisio> sometimes they get confused about whether they're opened or closed
[08:48] <john_john> without breaking it that is
[08:48] <reisio> so they try to open when they're opened, and close when they're closed
[08:48] <reisio> I bet you can :)
[08:49] <reisio> john_john: I had one that something like this worked on
[08:49] <reisio> john_john: eject; eject -T; eject
[08:49] <reisio> or something like that
[08:49] <reisio> some magical combination that made it wake up
[08:49] <bekks> john_john: Isnt there a tiny hole at the front of the drive? The emergency eject hole?
[08:49] <reisio> the emergency make the firmware work hole? :p
[08:50] <reisio> wouldn't that rely on the same people who made the broken firmware in the first place? :p
[08:50] <reisio> I could see a hole so you could easily pull it open
[08:50] <reisio> or just a finger/nail notch
[08:50] <bekks> reisio: No. Its a mechanical mechanism thats utilized when pushing a paperclip in.
[08:50] <bekks> reisio: Mechanics dont need firmware :P
[08:51] <reisio> really...
[08:51] <john_john> bekks: it's not a laptop, it has a button. But the button doesn't open it either.
[08:51] <reisio> I've never seen a cd tray with a redundant opening mechanism
[08:51] <reisio> but that sounds worthwhile
[08:51] <bekks> john_john: I am not talking about the button.
[08:51] <reisio> or would, if CDs weren't a dead medium
[08:51] <Ben64> every cd driver ever has a paperclip hole
[08:51] <Ben64> drive*
[08:51] <reisio> nah
[08:51] <bekks> Ben64: Which is not true.
[08:51] <Ben64> yes
[08:51] <reisio> nope
[08:51] <bekks> Ben64: No.
[08:51] <Ben64> 100% true
[08:51] <reisio> heh
[08:52] <bekks> Ben64: It isnt true. EOD.
[08:52] <Ben64> too late, i already said 100%
[08:52] <john_john> bekks: there does seem to be a really tiny hole.
[08:52] <bekks> No one cares.
[08:52] <KI7MT> Sri guys, drutils is pretty much BSD only, had my Mac Links open
[08:52]  * xmetal stays out of this
[08:52] <reisio> heheh
[08:52] <xmetal> :P
[08:52] <Ben64> you seem to care
[08:52] <reisio> KI7MT: :)
[08:52] <bekks> Ben64: Nope. But you can tell it to my kill file.
[08:52] <reisio> Ben64: enough to type thirteen chars, anyways :p
[08:52] <bekks> john_john: Thats the tiny hole we are talking about.
[08:53] <Ben64> because every drive has one
[08:53] <reisio> Ben64: sure they have
[08:53] <reisio> I can confirm that, 'cause like you I've personally seen every drive :D
[08:53] <john_john> bekks: will a needle work?
[08:53] <bekks> john_john: Yes, or a paper clip.
[08:53] <Ben64> has to be pretty strong to press it
[08:54] <reisio> don't poke yourself
[08:54] <bekks> Ubuntu has no medical support ;)
[08:54] <ruien> Anyone here familiar with building a kernel from source? I'm trying to do some kernel dev but building using "debian/rules binary-generic" is *slow* -- it tries to rebuild from scratch every change, rather than just detecting modified files and building only the necessary pieces the way `make` does. It requires "debian/rules clean", and even "make deb-pkg" is slow. Question: anyone know how to install a kernel directly after the `make` phase?
[08:55] <Ben64> ruien: that really isn't within the scope of this channel
[08:55] <reisio> ruien: you just want new modules?
[08:55] <bekks> ruien: There is no such way - because thats not the "official" way.
[08:55] <karab44> ruien: try ask on #linux
[08:55] <ruien> no, i'm specifically modifying the kernel source, but i'm changing only one file (fs/namei.c) so it should be relatively quick. Definitely shouldn't need to rebuild everything on each run..
[08:56] <bekks> ruien: It should, since the build instructions tell the rocess to start over, because something changed.
[08:56] <ruien> well this is somewhat debian-specific, so i hesitate to ask in #linux
[08:56] <reisio> I don't see why not :)
[08:56] <xmetal> i just install the repo kernal upgrades in "debain type" distros
[08:56] <reisio> you can use -j# with make, though, might help
[08:56] <karab44> ruien: ask on #linux or #kernel
[08:56] <xmetal> i only modify them from source on other ( ot ) distros
[08:56]  * xmetal karab
[08:56] <xmetal> oops
[08:56]  * xmetal agrees with karab
[08:57] <karab44> -j paralels building processes, nothing more, it will not fix ruien's problem
[08:57] <reisio> his problem stems from the duration required, so sure, it'll help
[08:57] <ruien> yeah i'm using -j5, anyway "make -j5" is about 10x faster than" DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=5 fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic", and therein lies the problem.
[08:58] <ruien> i'll find a more appropriate channel to ask in
[08:58] <dino> is there any proxy settings for wget
[08:58] <karab44> reisio: he's using -j5 :)
[08:58] <KI7MT> Sounds Simple, but it not be: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[08:58] <reisio> dino: man knows
[08:58] <reisio> karab44: which proves my point, not yours :p
[08:58] <karab44> reisio: but it doesn't solve his problem...
[08:58] <dino> reisio: where do i do the proxy settings
[08:59] <reisio> karab44: it could / have :)
[08:59] <reisio> dino: I believe the man page says, do you not see it?
[08:59] <karab44> reisio: don't you understand he's asking for something else?
[09:00] <karab44> His problem is that he doesn't want to rebuild whole kernel and he should ask on #kernel or #linux
[09:00] <reisio> mmhmmm
[09:01] <reisio> which is because he doesn't want to wait
[09:01] <ruien> karab44: you are correct, and that is what i'll do :)
[09:01] <KI7MT> Standard re-builds on kernels are simple, but it's not so simple to install it the Debian . Ubuntu way, so Kernel, is not the right place, Ubuntu-Dev or Ubuntu-Kernel would be better choice.
[09:01] <karab44> ruien: I can't help you because I am tottaly diesel in this matter. Ask me in one month :)
[09:03] <karab44> I just installed 16GB of ram but I don't know is it enough for ubuntu. My wacom tablet is very laggy... :/
[09:03] <dan123> how can I monitor a folder for changes (mostly adding files) and move the changes to another folder? Is it possible with rsync?
[09:03] <marloshouse> dan123, just what rsync is for
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> !info fam
[09:04] <reisio> karab44: with screen or?
[09:04] <aantoon> Hi, I have installed cups and the drivers for my brother usb printer (as far as I can tell perfect) "lpinfo -v" shows "direct usb://Brother/DCP-165C?serial=BR*****" but it is still not printing. The printer seems to get no sinal from my laptop. how can i troubleshoot this?
[09:04] <dan123> marloshouse: can it do it in realtime?
[09:04] <xmetal> uh
[09:04] <marloshouse> dan123, rsync -ax --progress --size-only /source/folder /dest/folder
[09:04] <marloshouse> dan123, what is real-time?
[09:04] <reisio> dan123: with lsyncd yeah
[09:04] <xmetal> 16GB not enough ?
[09:04] <xmetal> lol
[09:04] <reisio> think he means on demand
[09:04] <karab44> reisio: no, it's a graphire wireless bluetooth tablet. ikonia asked me to check xorg.0.log but I don't know what to look for.
[09:05] <KI7MT> aantoon, a good place to start is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[09:05] <dan123> marloshouse: I mean I installed motion and have a webcam and I want to copy the files captured by motion to a server
[09:05] <dan123> so it would need to monitor the folder constantly for file changes
[09:05] <KI7MT> aantoon, Im not a printer guru, so best I can advise is the linky.
[09:05] <marloshouse> lsyncd then
[09:05] <reisio> karab44: what does it have for graphics?
[09:05] <aantoon> KI7MT: been there done that
[09:05] <makara> hi. How can I stop wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager? They keep restarting after I kill them.
[09:06] <marloshouse> or just put rsync on a timer
[09:06] <karab44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074031/
[09:06] <[[thufir]]> I put xfce into the lightdm.conf file, but it didn't go to xfce when I logged in, still goes to unity.  I want switch from unity to anything.  (having videocard/driver/mouse problems of some sort)
[09:06] <reisio> or a cron, yeah :)
[09:06] <karab44> reisio: I don't know, ikonia said so.
[09:06] <reisio> [[thufir]]: hit the little cog icon
[09:06] <marloshouse> dan123, you need to run an rsync command by hand, see how freakin fast it is
[09:06] <reisio> ikonia knows your graphics hardware?
[09:06] <missy> good evening
[09:06] <reisio> 'lo missy
[09:06] <karab44> oh, I pasted some logs
[09:07] <marloshouse> dan123, i have a 60gb drive i sync up in about 4 sec
[09:07] <karab44> reisio: missunderstood
[09:07] <Guest35973> I am curious about something with my linux
[09:07] <reisio> ah
[09:07] <reisio> Guest35973: takes a few weeks for the super powers to kick in
[09:07] <dan123> marloshouse: I need to have it automated so that I just plug and and forget about it... I need no manual command running
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> 'with great power comes great responsability'
[09:08] <marloshouse> dan123, do you know how to set up a cron job?
[09:08] <dan123> marloshouse: no
[09:08] <[[thufir]]> reisio: I can't hit the icon logo.  bad driver, or video card, or mouse or something.
[09:08] <karab44> I know nothing about these AIGLX GLX XGL's waylands Xorg's and Xfree86 and ikonia said problem is somewhere there... :/
[09:08] <ikonia> I said nothing of the sort
[09:08] <ikonia> I said you are experiencing visual lag
[09:08] <marloshouse> dan123, build an rsync command (like i showed you above) and then stick it in cron
[09:08] <coolmouse> where is ubuntu boot messages log ？
[09:09] <ikonia> the problem without any investigation will mostlikely be your xorg configuration
[09:09] <marloshouse> coolmouse, dmesg
[09:09] <reisio> karab44: I don't see any EE's in this paste, those are usually what matter
[09:09] <ikonia> I specifically said xfree86/wayland/etc is not something you should be looking at
[09:09] <ikonia> as your version of ubuntu only uses Xorg
[09:09] <reisio> karab44: besides you said it was sluggish, right? Not failing exactly?
[09:09] <karab44> EE?
[09:09] <karab44> erors?
[09:09] <ruien> karab44: have you tried using something like xubuntu to compare speeds? That information would help delineate the nature of the issue
[09:10] <ikonia> good god
[09:10] <ikonia> you don't need to install different things to "compare speed"
[09:10] <ikonia> work the problem through
[09:10] <karab44> wait a minute, it was working years ago. Even on Debian Etch after 2days of configuration but it finally started to work.
[09:10] <[[thufir]]> how can I remove unity?  I just want xubuntu, or anything else.
[09:10] <reisio> [[thufir]]: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[09:10] <reisio> [[thufir]]: or download the xubuntu image in the first place
[09:11] <karab44> I have i7, 16gigs of ram, don't anybody tells me it's performance issue
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> [[thufir]]:  given how many weird issues you have beenhaving... i have to wonder what sort of a sad state your system is in.
[09:11] <ikonia> karab44: I've already told you it's not
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> oh, yeah, psychocats, forgot about that guy.  thanks.
[09:11] <ikonia> karab44: is there a reason you are not listening to what I told you before
[09:11] <reisio> [[thufir]]: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.04/release/xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso
 dmesg messages is not all
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> lol, I think it's a hardware problem.
[09:11] <ikonia> 08:57 < ikonia> karab44: I suspect the problem is with your video card config, rather than your cpu/arch
[09:12] <ikonia> karab44: I told you that over an hour ago
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> [[thufir]]: test with a live cd. and try a clean install to see i guess. you have been fighting with what should be a trivial thing for several hours now.
[09:12] <karab44> ikonia: I try to look into this log and I see only NVIDIA everywhere but I don't know is this a kind of module you've mentioned
[09:12] <ikonia> karab44: right, so that's the information you should be giving people, not making up things that I said, when I didn't
[09:12] <karab44> maybe it's something else, if I knew linux architecture I wouldn't ask anybody for help
[09:13] <ikonia> why do you think it's something else
[09:13] <ikonia> karab44: I've told you the likely problem - you've not disproved it
[09:13] <dan123> marloshouse: running a cronjob is probably not what I want as I need this to be almost instantaneous when it detects a change. I dont want it to wait as time is critical for alarm systems. The camera can sit for hours without having any changes registered (generating new files). So I was looking for something light to monitor for changes and then copy without delaying more than a few secs
[09:13] <[[thufir]]> I don't what I'm going to do when it's time to burn an image from the CLI.  it'll be interesting, let's say.
[09:13] <ikonia> yet you're saying it's something else
[09:13] <marloshouse> dan123, look at lsyncd then
[09:13] <marloshouse> see if that fits your needs
[09:14] <karab44> ikonia: seems we are missunderstanding each other
[09:14] <dan123> ok
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> [[thufir]]:  i tend to just put the iso files on flash drives these days
[09:14] <karab44> I just said I don't clearly see what's in xorg.0.log. That's what I meant
[09:15] <ruien> i'd be inclined to think ikonia's on the right track, but i'm unsure how to actually go about debugging that directly, which is why i suggested comparing another WM. If there's a better way, great
[09:15] <[[thufir]]> my flash drive is <2GB
[09:15] <[[thufir]]> or, hmm, maybe that's enough.
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> [[thufir]]:  i think any of the ubuntu iso disrtos will fit on a 1gb flash
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> but really i have seen 8gb flash drives in the $5 range all over the place.. time to skip tomorrows big-mac and fries.. and grab one. ;)
[09:16] <karab44> ikonia: And problem is afaik not only visual, because if I grab a window and move it is moved also with lag.
[09:16] <reisio> [[thufir]]: right, they aren't "DVD" images, they just tend to no longer fit on a 700MB CD is all
[09:17] <ikonia> karab44: that is visual
[09:17] <UbuntuUser> I've just installed updates for my Ubuntu 13.04 machine. It was running fine beforehand, but now when I login I get a black screen
[09:17] <karab44> oh ok
[09:17] <ikonia> karab44: moving a window is visual
[09:17] <[[thufir]]> Dr_Willis: downloading (slowly) over wifi.   13.04 desktop.
[09:17] <KI7MT> They all fit on CD, =< 750MB , else there is a waring about oversize ISO image.
[09:17] <UbuntuUser> and half a dozen errors occur
[09:17] <karab44> That's good, because I tought it could be that only pointer is laggy, but actions are on time. Now it's clear
[09:18] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], also, unless you need somethign specific, in 13.04 . 13.10 on xub .. probably best to stick with 12.04.3
[09:18] <john_john> woo, solved the tray problem. But now my computer refuses to boot from the dvd
[09:18]  * [[thufir]] chillaxes a bit.  but, is there a way to test a video card? or test a mouse, see what clicks show up a in a log?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> the new ubuntu releases  COME on a dvd required iso file size.
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu i think still fits on a cd
[09:18] <reisio> KI7MT: no, they used to all
[09:18] <john_john> I pressed f12 and selected cdrom, then it says boot from cdrom and it just stays there and nothing happens.
[09:18] <UbuntuUser> How can I revert the latest updates I've installed, via Terminal?
[09:19] <KI7MT> Hmmm.. I've never used a DVD UB image, so pass on the DVD bit, I take that back, used it on Edubuntu once.
[09:20] <reisio> well, again, it's not a dvd image :)
[09:21] <reisio> and arguably even things that are meant for dvds aren't only usable on dvds
[09:21] <KI7MT> You can see them oversize CD's on cdimage: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20130907/
[09:21] <reisio> the classic "dvd image" took up about 4 gigs, which meant you wasted time downloading at least 3 :p
[09:21] <karab44> ok I'm stuck, this logfile doesn't speak to me in any language.
[09:22] <karab44> I'll go search the net.
[09:22] <[[thufir]]> good grief.  ok, $5 problem. xinput shows clicks for left mouse button don't work.  lol, well, live and learn.
[09:23] <[[thufir]]> but, that doesn't explain why I kept getting messages about "low quality resolution" or something when booting...unless video card went wonky at the *exact* same time as the mouse failed?
[09:24] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], so you say'en you VID is fixed now?
[09:26] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: see, I'm not sure, because the mouse is weird.  it *seems* ok, but earlier it was saying "low quality", so I can't imagine why it would say that unless:  1.) serious system problem 2.) video card failure.  ?
[09:26] <karab44> Day lost on making things that should work, work.
[09:26] <[[thufir]]> I mean, earlier, I couldn't even boot into a GUI.  that has nothing to do with the mouse(?).
[09:28] <xtre_> how can i have customize my boot screen ? so that i get different design of ubuntu on boot up ?
[09:29] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], I don't see how the mouse and effects video, onther than maybe the xconf file, .. but maybe a combination of reloading LightDM, and other thing fixed it. Wish I knew what it was though.
[09:30] <KI7MT> xtre_, customize Grub2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542338
[09:30] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: yeah, well, when I get a new mouse, I'll find out :)
[09:31] <xtre_> KI7MT, thank you :)
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> there is some  use the numpad-as-a-mouse option i recall
[09:32] <karab44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074115/ anybody explain to me what graphic module do I use? Because I see both.
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> if the video drivers or X gets onfused - the system can say its in 'low graphics mode'
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> hmmm
[09:35] <KI7MT> If you installed the Nvidia restricted driver, the NV is the one you use, else nouveau.
[09:37] <lamby> hello guys
[09:38] <lamby> Can somebody help me install tor on ubuntu 13.04 64bit?
[09:39] <bwayne> lamby: i think the recommended way to use tor right now is to use the tor browser.
[09:39] <nightdrever> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/games/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http: [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:39] <nightdrever>  ????
[09:40] <karab44> lamby: why just don't install Tails on your USB drive or second partition?
[09:41] <lamby> hmm this is first time i hear something about Tails but for now i want to use Tor
[09:41] <lamby> i got error message in a console
[09:41] <lamby> for ownership and dont know howto to fix it
[09:41] <karab44> lamby: It is a system based on debian but it's generally for Tor users.
[09:42] <karab44> lamby: it is recommended to use tails when using Tor.
[09:42] <bwayne> lamby: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en#linux
[09:42] <lamby> bwayne i got it from this link
[09:42] <lamby> but
[09:42] <lamby> no idea howto install from archive
[09:43] <lamby> im new
[09:43] <lamby> to linux
[09:43] <lamby> :D
[09:43] <FloodBot1> lamby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <karab44> yes, now we see you're new ;)
[09:43] <karab44> try this instead of tor https://tails.boum.org/
[09:44] <bwayne> tar -xzfv tor-browser-gnu....
[09:44] <bwayne> tar -xzvf, sorry
[09:44] <lamby> thx
[09:44] <lamby> all
[09:44] <lamby> :)
[09:45] <karab44> lamby: tails is already much more secured and configured for tor networking. It has disabled cookies and stuff by default. And it simply - works
[09:46] <bwayne> lamby: be sure that javascript is disabled. install noscript if it's not in there. last i checked, it was.
[09:46] <karab44> yes, this is quite important thing.
[09:46] <bwayne> but i read they had (stupidly) enabled JS now.
[09:46] <lamby> i feel this is gonna be hard :D
[09:47] <karab44> lamby: as much hard as pressing the button could be.
[09:47] <bwayne> lamby: using a dedicated system as karab44 is suggesting is probably the safest. simply using the tor browser is probably the easiest
[09:47] <KI7MT> karab44, here's how you can tell about the Nvidia driver, just tested on my system:  sudo lshw -c video |grep "configuration:" |awk '{print $2}
[09:48] <karab44> wow KI7MT impressive
[09:48] <KI7MT> results:+= driver=nvidia
[09:48] <lamby> usr/bin data is not owner by this user TOR
[09:48] <lamby> error mssg
[09:48] <karab44> so what information contains xorg.0.log I pasted? Is this not sufficient?
[09:49] <KI7MT> LOL no idea, you wanted to know which module was the driver :-)
[09:51] <karab44> KI7MT: it just levitates and nothing... no print, just weird prompt ">" and nothing, ziltch, NULL
[09:52] <KI7MT> Make sure you have the final ' on the end looks like that is missing:
[09:53] <karab44> hahaha that explains a lot
[09:53] <KI7MT> sudo lshw -c video |grep "configuration:" |awk '{print $2}'
[09:53] <karab44> my computer shily whispered... driver=nvidia
[09:54] <KI7MT> Indeed :-)
[09:54] <karab44> So is that it? Does it mean I can not fix my wacom lag?
[09:55] <nightdrever> can someone please help me with sources list
[09:55] <karab44> I guess I need octa core processor and SLI 680gxt hardware to handle it.
[09:55] <karab44> but it was working flawless on ubuntu 6. 5 years ago.
[09:56] <KI7MT> I pass on Wacom requirments
[09:56] <nightdrever> could someone give me their working sources list ubuntu 12.04
[09:57] <karab44> KI7MT: could you tell me what exactly happens on my xorg.0.log?
[09:57] <karab44> I see some things loading, unloading. Is something wrong there?
[09:57] <karab44> what happens if I remove nvoeuea drivers from the system?
[09:57] <karab44> now I know I am using nvidia
[09:57] <KI7MT> nightdrever, source list you mean initial manifest, or current --get-selections ?
[09:58] <nightdrever> iive messed around with it
[09:58] <nightdrever> and i want it back to normal
[09:58] <KI7MT> karab44, no, I dont really understand that log .. too much fluff in it.
[09:58] <karab44> D:
[09:59] <KI7MT> nightdrever, what do you bean normal, back to original install config?
[09:59] <nightdrever> well i was trying to update it
[09:59] <nightdrever> but i followed something online and now i get errors
[09:59] <nightdrever> ive done something wrong
[09:59] <nightdrever> i want a working one
[09:59] <KI7MT> what's the errors, and what were you updating?
[10:00] <nightdrever> i just want to restore to default
[10:01] <KI7MT> Well, anyone that gives you there current manifest /  dpkg --get-selections is going to have mods to the original, so to get the original, reinstall it. There's a way to do it, but it's long and drawn out without a check-point backup.
[10:04] <KI7MT> Case in point, do the following: count=$(dpkg --get-selections | wc -l) && echo "$count"  .. and tell me what it says
[10:04] <bwayne> why not use this Ubuntu Sources List Generator http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ ?
[10:05] <nightdrever> 100% [Connecting to archive.getdeb.net (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[10:05] <nightdrever> stuck there
[10:05] <KI7MT> That still does not give him his original maifest, for his specific install.
[10:06] <nightdrever> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/games/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http: [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:07] <KI7MT> Ok, that's odd, that should have given a local package count.
[10:07] <KI7MT> aka like mine, 1862
[10:08] <bwayne> The default sources.list isn't very complicated, KI7MT.
[10:08] <bwayne> main, security, updates ...
[10:08] <KI7MT> I agree, very simple.
[10:09] <bwayne> The issue is with the software that's installed through all those other repos. No more updates.
[10:10] <KI7MT> Going backwards, to a specific build point, without a restore point, is not so simple.
[10:10] <bwayne> nightdrever: try just commenting out archive.getdeb.net from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <bwayne> KI7MT: you mean like making an image?
[10:11] <KI7MT> He wants a restoration without a backup, or restore point.
[10:12] <Otaku__> I connected my Computer directly to my NAS, cuz my router doen't support Gigabit, how can i access it?
[10:12] <Otaku__> the static IP defined on the NAS and the Name are not working
[10:12] <Otaku__> also if i try to access only smb:// via pcmanfm I get: "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[10:12] <bwayne> It sounded like he just wanted the default sources back.
[10:12] <john_john> okay so my screen settings refuses to open. The program opens in the system tray but I can't see it elsewhere nor use it. WHat do I run in the terminal to open it and see what's wrong?
[10:12] <KI7MT> He's messed something up aand want to go back int time to goodness :-) and asked for a manifest .. wont really help actually.
[10:13] <varun> which utility in ubuntu is capable of converting pdf to doc while preserving data format
[10:13] <KI7MT> Maybe bwayne, what don we just ask him :-) ...
[10:13] <bwayne> well, if it were me, my first step would be to simplyl comment out archive.getdeb.net and see what happens. they may be down right now.
[10:14] <KI7MT> dockbook, Asciidoc LaTeX etc
[10:14] <KI7MT> bwayne, yep,. that sight is timing out here too.
[10:15] <varun> which is best while preserving the format
[10:15] <varun> that pdf have
[10:15] <KI7MT> I no expert, but I've  been told DocBook is the PDF app of choice.
[10:16] <KI7MT> Im sure the TeX guys would have something to say about that thought. The Ubuntu Manual is done in TeX I believe.
[10:16] <dbugger> Hello guys. Im running virtualbox on ubuntu, to use W7, but i have no internet connection. Can someone help me fix it?
[10:17] <varun> thnx KI7MT
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> dbugger  set the network type to bridged, instead if NAT
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> instead of*
[10:17] <KI7MT> Where don't you have Inet, the Host or VM
[10:18] <KI7MT> All my ServerVVM's are Bridged to the switch, and assigned IP's from there.
[10:18] <KI7MT> Server VM's
[10:18] <dbugger> MonkeyDust, I have 2 Network adapters. One set to NAT and another to Bridged
[10:19] <dbugger> Should I have only one?
[10:19] <KI7MT> 1x unless you are running a DHCP server off the second NIC or you gang-parallel the two NICS
[10:19] <dbugger> And to which should I bridge it? eth0 or wlan0? Im getting my internet in the host through Wlan
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> dbugger  explore it a bit, see what does what
[10:21] <dbugger> Well, I changed to one adapter only. I configured it to Bridge wlan 0 and didnt work. im going to try eth0
[10:22] <KI7MT> You need eth0, Bridged to the Host. Disable Wlan0 on VM. then all traffic is is through the Host Gateway.
[10:22] <UbuntuUser> How can I move a dir from my local HDD to an SMB share, via terminal?
[10:23] <dbugger> I just tried it that way, bridged to eth0, and the netword still doesnt connect
[10:23] <TNTS> Hi I need help. When I try to install BleachBit, I get a Available from "universe" source then when I press Use this Source nothing happens. Downloading it directly results in Dependency is not satisfiable: menu
[10:24] <raven> how to disable autologin by cmd line? (xubuntu 13.04)
[10:24] <KI7MT> Or, you could run eth0 as NAT, and get an internal IP address, 10.1.10.xx or whatever, but you'd have to port-forward / iptable the Host to tunnel into the VM, which is a pain.
[10:24] <feisar> is someone able to tell me why this rule causes UFW to block ssh access from <IP_ADDRESS>? ufw allow proto tcp from <IP_ADDRESS> port 22
[10:25] <mrdeb> hi
[10:25] <mrdeb> why does kernel sometimes access hard drive for no reason
[10:25] <mrdeb> is this info
[10:26] <uronu> apt-cacher problem err connection failed
 I connected my Computer directly to my NAS, cuz my router doen't support Gigabit, how can i access it?
 the static IP defined on the NAS and the Name are not working
 also if i try to access only smb:// via pcmanfm I get: "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[10:27] <uronu> apt-cacher problem err connection failed. I can't install ldap-utils libpam-ldap libnss-ldap nscd but i can install other tools.
[10:27] <dbugger> Mmmm, so I guess there is no solution :(
[10:28] <KI7MT> If the NIC is enabled. configured to Bridged, selected by device type, it should work.
[10:29] <MrWin98_> Anyone around?
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> 1600+ people in here.
[10:29] <MrWin98_> I have Uberstudent installed and I cannot figure out the password I used.
[10:30] <MrWin98_> I went into recovery - root but the SOB still asks for password
[10:30] <KI7MT> + 3 OPS :-) but they are peoples too :-)
[10:30] <ubuntunoob> Hi there, I have tried to install ubuntu desktop a number of times using cd-roms and bootable usb disks (I have tried version 10 and 11 off the website and both 64 and 32 bit). The most progress I have made is the purple screen which says ubuntu with 5 dots and it freezes at this point. The computer I am trying to install on has an AMD64 3600+ processor. Could this be a compatibility issue?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> No idea what uberstudent is.. if you mean your ubuntu users password. you can reset  the users password via the recovery console.
[10:30] <MrWin98_> Is there another way to reset the damn password?
[10:30] <MrWin98_> NoI CANNOT
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunoob:  a video card/chipset/driver issue.
[10:30] <MrWin98_> Still asks for password
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | ubuntunoob
[10:31] <MrWin98_> Yeah it is a distro based on Ubuntu
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> MrWin98_:  you are refering to the Ubuntu Users LOGIN password? or what exactly.
[10:31] <MrWin98_> Login passowrd
[10:31] <MrWin98_> I had put the PC away for a while and I got it back out and I just cannot remember what I used to login (password)
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> MrWin98_:  recvovery console. remount / to be writeable. 'sudo passwd theuseraname' and enter a new password  is how ive seen it done hundereds of times
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> !resetpassword
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> !password
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> or you can edit the /etc/passwd file and give the user an empty password  then let the user change it.
[10:32] <MrWin98_> I load up and say recovery, then I choose root, but the damn thing asks for a password or predd D to continue
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> you mean its asking for a ROOT user password?
[10:33] <MrWin98_> I guess
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> MrWin98_:  you need to determine.. not guess.
[10:33] <MrWin98_> All I know is it keeps askin for password and I forgot the damn password
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu dosent use a root user password. and the ubuntu recovery definatly does not ask for one
[10:33] <MrWin98_> It does here
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> you can use a live cd, and chroot into the installed system also and try resetting it
[10:33] <MrWin98_> Don't ask me why
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> MrWin98_:  UBUNTU by default does not. so you have done somting to change it.
[10:34] <MrWin98_> I am in another Linux how do I reset from here?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> chroot in, use the passwd command
[10:34] <TNTS> Nevermind, the problem seemed to have fixed itself
[10:34] <john_john> how do I bring up display settings through the terminal?
[10:35] <ubuntunoob> ubottu: Thanks, will give it a shot
[10:36] <ubuntunoob> mindblown
[10:36] <pyalot> so, the last updated trashed my install, I guess I shouldn't have ran the manual nvidia installer, or something.
[10:36] <pyalot> unity shell didn't start anymore
[10:36] <pyalot> didn't get into recovery graphics mode, mouse/keyboard just froze
[10:36] <pyalot> aaaand I did another reinstall
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> you could have just tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers
[10:37] <pyalot> I've got an SSD, it's faster than trying to figure out how to fix stuff
[10:37] <pyalot> yeah I could've
[10:37] <pyalot> but then I'd have to mount the hd writable, go mess with grub settings so I can drop into a root shell and reinstall the drivers
[10:37] <pyalot> would've taken longer than reinstall
[10:37] <pyalot> anyhow
[10:38] <pyalot> made a few notes this time on install
[10:38] <pyalot> https://gist.github.com/pyalot/6474434
[10:38] <pyalot> so thing is, I've been using ubuntu for... a while (since 6.04 or so I think)
[10:38] <pyalot> and it's never been smooth
[10:38] <pyalot> and it's *still* not smooth
[10:38] <pyalot> do you honestly expect "normal" users to be able to cope with that?
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> I find ubuntu very smooth here. even on my netbook
[10:39] <pyalot> Dr_Willis: see what I just wrote and the gist https://gist.github.com/pyalot/6474434
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> pyalot:  i lost intrest after about the 4th line to be honest with you.
[10:39] <pyalot> Dr_Willis: that's more or less my experience for every install, with minor variations, across any machine I install it on
[10:39] <dr0p> hello, i've just installed owncloud from repo and uploaded some files. Where can I find those files? I can't find any clue...
[10:39] <pyalot> Dr_Willis: exactly
[10:39] <jimmythee> hey, after trying to install nvidia driers i have no more unity and no more xorg.conf. How do I download a new xorg.conf? I think that might solve the problem
[10:40] <pyalot> jimmyff: https://gist.github.com/pyalot/6474434
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  you dont need an xorg.conf - the nvidia drivers and X can auto configure if there is none.
[10:40] <pyalot> jimmyff: the nvidia drivers are broken since last update
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  then you can remake one with the nvidia-settings tool.
[10:40] <pyalot> jimmyff: the standard drivers don't work
[10:40] <pyalot> jimmyff: the 304 driver crashes your machine
[10:41] <UbuntuUser> I've connected to a Windows server via smbclient...how can I copy a directory from my local HDD to the remote directory?
[10:41] <pyalot> jimmyff: the nvidia latest from their site will nuke your machine on next update
[10:41] <KI7MT> Iv'e tried downloading Drivers and PPA, and they fail, allot. I run 2x and Quad Card NV Boxes, I've rarely used anything other than the restricted DVR's from UB
[10:41] <pyalot> jimmyff: 310 from x-swat might work
[10:41] <jimmythee> Dr_Willis now I am purging all related to nvidia...because making an xorg.conf with nvidia bugs my computer. I just want to have a pure xorg.conf
[10:42] <KI7MT> This box im on now, NV Motherboard, NV Graphics, never one issue with either.
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  'pure xorg.conf' is rather meaningless.  My nvidia system by default here has NO xorg.conf file at all.
[10:42] <bwayne> Dr_Willis: man ... i remember you from wayback. Just how long have you been around?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> The only time i need an xorg.conf for my nvidia systems these days - is when i enable twinview. then its just like a 6 line Xorg.conf file
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> bwayne:  ages. ;)
[10:43] <bwayne> Dr_Willis: I remember getting help from you, like, back in 2007 or something. Way to stick with it!
[10:43] <jimmythee> Dr_Willis my nvidia is not working, i don't want to have anything to do with it now. All I need is the xorg.conf that you start with when you install 13.04. Or else, tell me how to get unity back
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  and for the 3rd time. by default there IS no xorg.conf
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> so if you rename your existing xorg.conf file to xorg.conf.oldfile    you would be back to the  one a normal install starts with
[10:44] <jimmythee> Dr_WIllis, but i'm stupid and instead of renaming I deleted it...And for some reason it's not in the trash
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> if you remove all the nvidia packages and drivers, then your system should automatically use the open sourced drivers
[10:45] <jimmythee> Dr_Willis, have you got any solution for the unity problem?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  it dosent matter.. you can delete it. or just rename it..  by default Xorg should auto configure.
[10:45] <KI7MT> It's in trash, just not the user's trash.
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  with out 3d driversd working - you really wont be using compiz or unity.
[10:46] <jimmythee> well i've rebooted 5 times and still no xorg.conf in etc/X11. what do you mean KI7MT?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  it dosent MAKE an xorg.conf.  X auto configures as needed.
[10:46] <jimmythee> Dr_Willis, by 3D you mean nvidia? I wasn't using it before and my unity still worked
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> jimmythee:  then you were using the default open sourced nvidia drivers.
[10:47] <jimmythee> Dr_Willis I think I was actually just using the intel ones...
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> if you have an xorg.conf that still was for the Proparaty Nvidia drivers. then THAT wont work.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> intel? thats not nvidia.. or are you FINALLY just now -  telling us you have an Optimus Dual GPU system?
[10:48] <jimmythee> Dr_Willis yes
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> good luck then. I dont deal with Optimus
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> you will want to use Bumblebee i belive to get it working properly
[10:49] <jimmythee> does bumblebee also affect graphics performance?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=bumblebee
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> given its the graphics driver stuff... yes
[10:50] <jimmythee> i read somewhere it was mostly for battery performance
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Bumblebee aims to provide support for NVIDIA Optimus laptops for GNU/Linux distributions. Using Bumblebee, you can use your NVIDIA card for rendering graphics which will be displayed using the Intel card.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Power Management
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> A primary goal of this project is to not only enable use of the discrete GPU for rendering, but also to enable smart power management of the dGPU when it's not in use. We're using either bbswitch (a module) or vga_switcheroo (kernel module, experimental) to do this in Bumblebee.
[10:54] <nobodies> any reason after having added a repository i still wouldnt be able to apt-get the packages in it?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> nobodies:  you frogot to do an 'sudo apt-get update' first ?
[10:55] <nobodies> Dr_Willis nope done an update
[10:56] <KI7MT> package is not actually in the repo you enables, mina uni, milti-uni ?
[10:57] <KI7MT> main .. uni, milti-uni .. ...
[10:58] <nobodies> well i added "ppa:fingerprint/fingerprint-gui" and i'm trying to apt-get "fingerprint-gui"
[10:59] <nobodies> it dosnt come up in aptitude search either
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> are you sure thats the right package name?
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> synaptic can show what packages are in what repos
[11:02] <KI7MT> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:fingerprint/fprint worked for me
[11:02] <szymon> jj
[11:02] <jimmythee> ok let's try this again: I lost my unity after messing with nvidia drivers, trying to install them when I was using my default intel drivers. Now I just purged everything nvidia I have, but I still don't have unity. Any ideas?
[11:02] <szymon> yolo
[11:03] <KI7MT> FOllowed Inst. from here: https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fprint
[11:05] <abramo> can someone help me?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[11:06] <nobodies> KI7MT, thanks, the other one must have been an old repo or something
[11:06] <abramo> i have the last xubuntu, and i'd like to install libreoffice
[11:06] <abramo> how?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> use the libreoffice ppa if you really MUST have the latest versions
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[11:08] <abramo> thanks :)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> abramo, you can also avoid all the ppa mess by downloading the .debs for libre office and installing with sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[11:11] <KI7MT> That works, but caused update issues down the line. By manually installing .deb's, your committed to updating that way also. besy way in through Xubuntu / Package  Manager
[11:11] <cfhowlett> KI7MT, true ...
[11:15] <Guest31296> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 and I have a mildly annoying issue
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Guest31296, details ?
[11:16] <Guest31296> when I'm running firefox in fullscreen (F11) the windows key does not show the unity HUD
[11:16] <Guest31296> to replicate start firefox, press F11 and then the windows key
[11:17] <Guest31296> the same thing happens when running totem in fullscreen.
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a design feature to me
[11:18] <Guest31296> yeah I see why it's designed like that
[11:19] <Guest31296> previously I've been using fluxbox and there it was possible to remove the window decorations
[11:19] <KI7MT> Guest31296, it's not just 13.04, same on 12.04, and not whit just FF, Gedit, Chrome etc. all do same, gotta come out of Full Screen to get Super Key Back.
[11:20] <KI7MT> I don't know if this is by design, or an oversight, but it's consistent.
[11:21] <Guest31296> what is the overlay that appears when pressing the windows key called?
[11:21] <Guest31296> and what is the windows key called in a more "unixy" way? is it super key?
[11:21] <reisio> Guest31296: super, yes, or meta
[11:22] <reisio> Guest31296: compiz has several fancy task switcher alternatives
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> the DASH is on the windows key. the HUD is on the alt key
[11:22] <Guest31296> Dr_Willis, thanks
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> press and hold the windows key = shows  unity key shortcuts
[11:23] <KI7MT> Took me a while to get used to it, but I like it more every day.
[11:23] <Guest31296> ah why didn't I think of that
[11:23] <Guest31296> KI7MT, I love it
[11:24] <KI7MT> Fer us old guys, it's rememebring the "app name" is the problem :-)... gnome-panel spelled them out for us :-)
[11:25] <Guest31296> KI7MT, mm that is annoying
[11:26] <Guest31296> KI7MT, always a problem when you want to run something from the terminal
[11:26] <Guest31296> anyone know of a program that can give you the name of the process owning a window in X11, like xkill or xwininfo
[11:27] <KI7MT> That's where I spend most days, bash scripts, Dialog and Whiptail menus :-)
[11:28] <KI7MT> Guest 31296 - May have a crack at this one: http://wajig.togaware.com/
[11:29] <Guest31296> KI7MT, which is somewhat related to my fullscreen super key issue since I like running terminal in fullscreen
[11:30] <ness> would it work if i mounted a iso file on an install and reinstalled ubuntu that way?
[11:30] <KI7MT> debian-bennies is another one to look at.
[11:30] <john_john> Hey, when I try to add a new PPA, I get an error that says "Cannot add PPA: 'No JSON object could be decoded'"
[11:30] <john_john> I'm trying to install spotify
[11:31] <KI7MT> debian-goodies, not bennies
[11:31] <jrib> john_john: you should say exactly how you are trynig
[11:31] <jimbopea> Guest31296, I like running terminal in full screen and to avoid these issues i use Guake
[11:31] <john_john> jrib: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free"
[11:31] <KI7MT> Guake is awsome ...
[11:31] <john_john> I have added the key so that's not the problem
[11:31] <jrib> john_john: what ubuntu version?
[11:32] <john_john> jrib: 13.04
[11:32] <jrib> john_john: this isn't a ppa by the way
[11:32] <john_john> jrib: it gives me the same error when I try to add a ppa
[11:32] <jrib> john_john: before we move on to troubleshoot,  are you sure the repository is meant for use on ubuntu 13.04?
[11:33] <john_john> jrib: it is supposed to work on ubuntu 13.04, or at least the guide I used was for ubuntu 13.04
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:33] <jrib> john_john: what guide?  Also, is the line you pasted the entire output?
[11:34] <reisio> mornin'
[11:34] <john_john> jrib: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-spotify-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[11:34] <john_john> yup
[11:35] <KI7MT> here's another one: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10
[11:35] <raven> how to disable autologin by cmd line? (xubuntu 13.04)
[11:35] <john_john> KI7MT: yup and when I try to add the apt in the package manager I get the exact same JSON error
[11:36] <jrib> john_john: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list; also pastebin your full input and output when you enter the command (I know you said there isn't more but humor me)
[11:37] <ikrevedko> hi, I need help!
[11:37] <jimbopea> ikrevedko, with?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !details|ikrevedko,
[11:37] <ness> just do spotify in the commandliine
[11:37] <ikrevedko> xubuntu
[11:37] <ikrevedko> please wait 2 minutes
[11:37] <john_john> jrib: here's the input and output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074489/
[11:38] <ness> the easiest way to add the repository is to go into software settings
[11:38] <KI7MT> raven, edit:  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  change : autologin-user=<user-name->
[11:38] <jrib> raven: are you using lightdm?
[11:39] <ikrevedko> I cant show video in chrome
[11:39] <john_john> jrib: here's my huge source list http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074492/
[11:39] <KI7MT> john_john, I dont know what's up with this, getting errors here too.
[11:39] <jrib> john_john: for what it's worth, your exact command works here.  Are you typing out this command or copying and pasting from somewhere?
[11:39] <john_john> jrib: tried both
[11:40] <jrib> john_john: how about the output of « more /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | cat  »
[11:40] <raven> jrib, KI7MT just a moment
[11:40] <Guest31296> hm found a solution I opened unity plugin settings in compizconfig and activated autohide for the launcher
[11:41] <ikrevedko> I can not watch videos and listen to music in your browser, although the flash player installed
[11:41] <tuocuggino> hi, how i can set the mouse velocity on xorg.conf?
[11:41] <john_john> KI7MT I had the error before but there was a command that fixed it. I can't find what command that was now though.
[11:41] <ikrevedko> in my*
[11:41] <jimbopea> ikrevedko, you have the flash plugin installed?
[11:42] <ikrevedko> o yes
[11:42] <jrib> john_john: this is probably because you have an empty sources.list which is very strange
[11:42] <john_john> :(
[11:42] <Guest31296> KI7MT, what is whiptail b.t.w. ?
[11:42] <raven> jrib, KI7MT lightdm.conf does not contain any autologin command. problem is: i changed settings to "do not ask for password at login" and now i cannot login at all any more
[11:43] <ikrevedko> I do not understand what's wrong ((
[11:43] <jrib> raven: are you using lightdm?
[11:43] <KI7MT> ncurses GUI for terminal  .. man whiptail / man dialog  .. open a terminal and type tasksel .. that's dialog I think.
[11:43] <jimbopea> ikrevedko, have you gone to chrome://plugins/ and checked if it is enabled?
[11:43] <raven> jrib, i am not sure i think so because there is no gdm or lxdm
[11:44] <jrib> raven: ps -ef | grep lightdm
[11:44] <raven> jrib, ok its lightdm
[11:45] <jrib> raven: then /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf should be the right place
[11:45] <raven> jrib, should i add this autologin conf?
[11:46] <KI7MT> he can alway dpkg-reconfigure lightdm or gdm I think
[11:46] <jrib> raven: uh, probably not
[11:46] <jrib> raven: pastebin the contents of lightdm.conf
[11:47] <Guest62845> hi
[11:47] <raven> jrib, it only contains [seatdefaults] with greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter and user-session)=xubuntu
[11:47] <jimbopea> Hello
[11:47] <m0x39> this is a really dumb question but im usually a RH user... anyway how do you disable startup services.. i have searched around but it seems the way in which ubuntu starts services is messed up and theres not a general convention.]#
[11:49] <m0x39> do you have to edit the /etc/init.d/ service files ? if so what do you change
[11:49] <john_john> jrib: I fixed it by manually adding deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free to sources.list
[11:49] <KI7MT> m0x39, on server or desktop
[11:49] <jrib> m0x39: kind of a mess.  Some packages are still using sys-v-init-style init scripts.  For those, you can use sysv-rc-conf (you know it is this style if there is *not* an init script in /etc/init for it (note the lack of ".d").  If there *is* an init script for your package in /etc/init, then it's an upstart script.  To disable upstart scripts, read about "manual overrides" in the upstart cookbook (should be
[11:49] <jrib> first hit on google for "upstart cookbook")
[11:49] <jrib> john_john: that's not a fix.
[11:50] <john_john> jrib: nope but it lets me install spotify
[11:50] <m0x39> ubuntu desktop
[11:50] <jrib> john_john: and I urge you to still pastebin the last command I asked for as your sources.list seems broken.
[11:50] <m0x39> thanks for the help i will look now
[11:51] <KI7MT> m0x39, easy way, Desktop Startup Applicaiton, hard way command-line via init.d
[11:52] <john_john> jrib: the "« more /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | cat »" command?
[11:52] <jrib> john_john: yes
[11:52] <john_john> j
[11:52] <KI7MT> :bum an reconf are ok for GUI tools also.
[11:53] <KI7MT> rcconf not reconf
[11:53] <jrib> KI7MT: those tools don't deal with upstart jobs
[11:53] <jrib> KI7MT: do they?
[11:54] <KI7MT> rcconf may do, I've not used it in a long time, let me go check.
[11:54] <m0x39> it doesnt seem to have my
[11:54] <m0x39> mysqld service in there
[11:54] <m0x39> on rcconf
[11:54] <m0x39> or the cups
[11:54] <m0x39> well they are unticed
[11:54] <FloodBot1> m0x39: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:56] <KI7MT> I gotta do com digging on this one, best resource so far on upstart is the cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[11:56] <m0x39> cheers
[11:56] <KI7MT> I sure there's tools, just a matter of getting the right one.
[11:57] <m0x39> seems so much work just to get some services disabled from startup though, bit of a ballache. and yeah just fidning the right way first
[11:57] <jrib> m0x39: you create a single file with a line or two in it
[11:58] <raven> jrib, ?
[11:59] <KI7MT> BUM is ok, but be careful, I've heard it can mess up the scripts.
[11:59] <jrib> raven: yes?
[12:00] <raven> jrib, how to solve the login problem?
[12:00] <jrib> raven: still waiting on a pastebin from you
[12:00] <KI7MT> jrib, is right, you can write your own wrappers easily, and controls just abt whatever you want from your own gui.
[12:00] <raven> jrib, i wrote it here - thats all
[12:00] <ksinkar> how do I uninstall guile on my machine?
[12:00] <jrib> raven: pastebin it
[12:00] <jrib> ksinkar: how did you install it?
[12:01] <raven> jrib, you want me to pastebin 3 lines of a config file i already wrote here?
[12:01] <ikrevedko> ♪
[12:01] <Eagleman> I am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=<IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with <IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
[12:01] <ksinkar> jrib:( $ sudo apt-get install guile ) when I do ( $ sudo apt-get remove guile) I get the following error: Virtual packages like 'guile' can't be removed
[12:02] <jrib> ksinkar: dpkg -l '*guile*' | grep '^ii'
[12:02] <dolanor> Hello
[12:02] <dolanor> Anyone know about lxc and iptables ?
[12:03] <jrib> dolanor: ask your actual question
[12:03] <ksinkar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074564/
[12:03] <dolanor> I have a lxc debian container in a host. I want to reroute all the traffic for postfix from host to container
[12:04] <ikrevedko> Somebody has been creating websites? Write a private message
[12:04] <jrib> ksinkar: so uninstall whatever you don't want from that
[12:04] <dolanor> but it doesn't seem to work. I guess it is some iptables stuff that I'm not aware of
[12:04] <Eagleman> I am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=<IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with <IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
[12:05] <dolanor> it works well for http and https, but not for smtp
[12:06] <m0x39> found it i think just need to echo manual in service.override
[12:06] <m0x39> if its been converted, if not i dont know hwo to disable the old style services
[12:08] <jrib> m0x39: sysv-rc-conf
[12:08] <jrib> m0x39: (if it's sysv-init-style)
[12:09] <jrib> raven: yes...
[12:20] <SupaYoshi> Anyone experience with PyKoto
[12:20] <Eagleman> I am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=<IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with <IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
[12:31] <Eagleman> I am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=<IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with <IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
[12:34] <SupaYoshi> Is it advised to run SNORT on a Server? :D
[12:34] <belkinsa> Is anyone's latest version of Pidgin working on Ubuntu 13.04?
[12:34] <Eagleman> I am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=<IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with <IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
[12:35] <qwerty123> how to disable auto mounting of removable devices??
[12:35] <ikonia> Eagleman: it's not responding quick enough
[12:36] <Eagleman> how to speed mister amavis up?
[12:36] <ikonia> look at why it's slow
[12:36] <Eagleman> yeh, i have no idea where to look
[12:37] <ikonia> test it, see if it does respond slow
[12:37] <Eagleman> ikonia, that is the problem i dont know how to troubleshoot amavis
[12:37] <Eagleman> or how to test
[12:37] <ikonia> then why are you using it
[12:37] <ikonia> if you have no idea
[12:38] <Eagleman> ikonia i am not using it to troubleshoot itself, you only troubleshoot after it stopped working, which it finally did after an half year
[12:38] <ikonia> yes, so you should know how to use it if you've been using it for a year
[12:39] <Eagleman> great...
[12:39] <ikonia> Eagleman: check the obvious stuff, check it's running, check it's listening, connect to it's listening port, look at it's respose time, look at the logs
[12:39] <Eagleman> so where do i get support?
[12:40] <ikonia> re-read what I said
[12:40] <ikonia> ask specific questions related to the ubuntu setup if you want help from this channel
[12:41] <Eagleman> i've always asked question about packages in the repository here, and most of the time i got an answer for that
[12:42] <AlanBell> Eagleman: if it is a bug that you think relates to the Ubuntu packaging then you can file a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amavisd-new
[12:42] <Eagleman> i mean support
[12:42] <AlanBell> sure, you can ask here, but it isn't a package that many people on a saturday know about
[12:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: I've given you an answer
[12:42] <belkinsa> Did you search about it in the Ubuntu Doc's at help.ubuntu.com?
[12:43] <belkinsa> Docs*
[12:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: I'm happy to help you, but if you've been using this for over 1.5 years, you should be able to check/know the basics such as how to check it's running, which log file it logs to
[12:43] <AlanBell> Eagleman: also try the amavis mailing list http://www.amavis.org/#support
[12:44] <AlanBell> but that error sounds like the service isn't running
[12:44] <ikonia> hence time out
[12:44] <ikonia> hence why I told you to check the things I suggested
[12:44] <AlanBell> or you have done some funky stuff with firewalls blocking it from itself
[12:45] <Eagleman> ikonia, lets give some more information the, it is running, i can connect to telnet localhost 10024: 220 [<IP_ADDRESS>] ESMTP amavisd-new service ready, a new error showed up in the log:  amavis[5158]: (05158-06) (!)SMTP: 500 5.5.2 Error: bad syntax; PENALIZE: \377\364\377\375\006\377\364\377\375\006\r\n
[12:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, so the syntax appears wrong in that example of what's being passed to it, check the format it's expecting data in
[12:46] <dosas> i Have the weirdest error with my new bluetooth dongle. I plugged it in it connected absolutely fine with my mobile phone. then i unplugged it and turned bluetooth off. now i cannot get it working again. I have attached a few outputs here http://pastebin.com/9bnMiQCc
[12:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: although that doesn't sit well as I don't see a time out there
[12:47] <Eagleman> ikonia, it seems to work aigan :S
[12:47] <Eagleman> i didnt change a thing
[12:47] <Eagleman> amavis[5157]: (05157-06) Passed CLEAN, [<IP_ADDRESS>]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-><EMAIL_ADDRESS>Message-ID<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mail_id: FqwgZIfaP1Ci, Hits: 0.999, size: 316, queued_as: AC9AF2226A, 21396 ms
[12:47] <belkinsa> @dosas: what model/brand you have?
[12:47] <dosas> it's in the paste Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[12:48] <dosas> but i had it working
[12:48] <dosas> it is a noname product
[12:48] <Guest33912> new broadcom drivers still not working
[12:49] <belkinsa> @donas They seem to work for awhile, but they break after awhile.  I had this issue and just gave up using one.  But I never brothered to look for an answer.
[12:49] <belkinsa> Sorry for saying that.
[12:49] <dosas> so the thing is broken
[12:49] <Guest33912> any one know something about it?
[12:49] <dosas> can you recommend a good one
[12:50] <dosas> i had it working for like 5 minutes
[12:50] <belkinsa> I can't.  All of them have that issue.
[12:50] <Guest33912> every time i update my system i have to downgrad broadcom to " bcmwl-kernel-source_<IP_ADDRESS>"
[12:50] <belkinsa> On ubuntu that is.
[12:50] <dosas> all dongels or all from this vendor
[12:50] <belkinsa> I believe all dongels.
[12:51] <belkinsa> But I maybe wrong here.
[12:51] <dosas> i hope so
[12:51] <belkinsa> Have you asked on ask.ubuntu?
[12:51] <dosas> i would really like to have a bluetooth connection
[12:51] <dosas> no not yet
[12:51] <dosas> do they have an irc
[12:52] <belkinsa> I think they do, but just asking it on the stack exchange is a good idea too.
[12:52] <belkinsa> It could help others.
[12:52] <dosas> mabye but i ave no accounts there
[12:53] <belkinsa> Just create one.  Or use your OpenID if you have one.
[12:54] <belkinsa> And I meant http://askubuntu.com/
[12:55] <belkinsa> @dosas: http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Bluetooth+dongles
[12:57] <belkinsa> I think your problem is this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130435/bluetooth-dongle-not-working-in-12-04
[12:58] <dosas> thanks a lot i will try
[12:58] <neuroquote> show me please ru channel ubuntu
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !ru|neuroquote,
[12:59] <dosas> but i cannot even get an output for  hcitool dev
[12:59] <dosas> Devices:
[12:59] <belkinsa> @Donsas Not a problem.
[13:00] <neuroquote> thank u
[13:01] <xtriz> in tasksel what is the difference between ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu live cd ?
[13:02] <belkinsa> You may not have installed?  try sudo apt-get install [program name].
[13:03] <belkinsa> sudo get-apt install hcitool
[13:03] <neuroquote> i can't connect to the russian channel
[13:03] <neuroquote> what is it?
[13:03] <belkinsa> apt-get*
[13:03] <belkinsa> Er, never mind.
[13:04] <neuroquote> #ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:04] <cfhowlett> neuroquote, #ubuntu-ru
[13:04] <belkinsa> @neuroquote type in "/join #ubuntu-ru" without the quotes.
[13:05] <belkinsa> s anyone's latest version of Pidgin working on Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:05] <belkinsa> Is*
, it's not work
[13:05] <neuroquote> :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:05] <Johnny_Linux> people cant read
[13:05] <neuroquote> how to do it?
[13:06] <Johnny_Linux> the man pasted he cant join cuz of non registration
[13:06] <Johnny_Linux> !register | neuroquote
[13:06] <belkinsa> Thank you, Johnny.
[13:06] <neuroquote> oh, thank u
[13:06] <Johnny_Linux> np
[13:07] <JimboPea> !register | JimboPea
[13:08] <belkinsa> @dosas ARe you there?
[13:09] <Nothing_Much> Does Wine for Ubuntu armhf exist?
[13:09] <schreber> anyone playing around with 13.10 Beta 1 (Xubuntu specifically) and having some issue(s) with settings [adding a printer]?
[13:09] <karab44> ikonia: ! I have to show off! :)
[13:09] <dionisio> ciao
[13:10] <Nothing_Much> Does Wine for Ubuntu armhf exist?
[13:10] <karab44> Guys I changed the Bluetooth dongle and my wacom tablet works marvelous
[13:10] <info_guy_34> fine morning/night people..I have a little question, how can i get a windows xp running online. And even if i log off or close the browser it continues working. Is there a free website or something, thx
[13:11] <Nothing_Much> info_guy_34, I think you should update to Windows 7 or 8, Windows XP has less than a year before it dies, but I'm unsure as to what you're asking, do you mean a sleep mode?
[13:11] <ikonia> info_guy_34: it's not really anything to do with this channel.
[13:12] <info_guy_34> no i just mean is there a way i can have a windows in cloud?
[13:12] <ikonia> info_guy_34: you're in the ##windows channel already, that is the right place to ask
[13:12] <cfhowlett> info_guy_34, ask in #windows
[13:12] <info_guy_34> ok
[13:12] <Nothing_Much> Does Wine for Ubuntu armhf exist?
[13:12] <ikonia> no
[13:12] <belkinsa> This is a Ubuntu support channel, nit Windows.
[13:12] <belkinsa> not*
[13:13] <Nothing_Much> Is there a wine support channel so I can figure out if Wine for arm exists?
[13:13] <Nothing_Much> *ubuntu arm?
[13:13] <ikonia> Nothing_Much: "it doesn't"
[13:14] <Nothing_Much> Oh okay
[13:14] <Nothing_Much> Thanks
[13:15] <smw__> test
[13:15] <karab44> It's even more strange than I thought. I just removed and add again my tablet and it finally works.
[13:15] <xtriz> in tasksel what is the difference between ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu live cd ?
[13:15] <karab44> It works good on new and old bluetooth now.
[13:16] <ikonia> xtriz: what do you mean, what's the difference ?
[13:16] <xtriz> ikonia, how can i check what packages would be install if i select ubuntu live cd and when i select ubuntu desktop
[13:16] <ikonia> xtriz: what do you mean "select ubuntu livecd" and select ubuntu desktop
[13:17] <ikonia> xtriz: what are you trying to do
[13:17] <xtriz> ikonia, i am doing minimal installation, and fired tasksel.
[13:18] <ikonia> xtriz: right....so what is your question ?
[13:18] <xtriz> in tasksel there are two options, 1. ubuntu desktop and 2. ubuntu live cd
[13:18] <ikonia> xtriz: what are you actually trying to do
[13:18] <daniel_fr> hi
[13:19] <xtriz> xtriz, i am just learning things. i was experimenting by  starting installing ubuntu with minimal packages.
[13:19] <xtriz> ikonia, ^
[13:19] <xtriz> i want to setup unity
[13:19] <ikonia> xtriz: right....so why are you looking at the livecd ???
[13:19] <ikonia> xtriz: just install the desktop
[13:20] <xtriz> ikonia, i was curious so wanted to know what was the difference between ubuntu desktop and live cd.
[13:20] <ikonia> xtriz: pretty much "the installed desktop" and the live media package kits
[13:20] <daniel_fr> I just finish a fresh install full HD formated and black screen, by pressing esc I have this /dev/disk/by-uuid/8280A25C80A25687 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[13:20] <ikonia> daniel_fr: it can't find your disk device
[13:21] <daniel_fr> But if i press exit
[13:21] <ikonia> daniel_fr: not using raid by any chance are you ?
[13:21] <daniel_fr> it boot normaly
[13:21] <daniel_fr> no
[13:21] <ikonia> daniel_fr: look in /etc/fstab and see what that uuid matches
[13:21] <xtriz> ikonia, ok got it now :)
[13:22] <daniel_fr> I think when i change for default params in bios i make somthing wrong
[13:22] <daniel_fr> I try Fail-safe default
[13:27] <daniel_fr> ikonia: 1/ I startup PC (black screen) I press ENTER, i got the message, then I have prompt (initramfs) I put exit And it startup on system
[13:27] <xtriz> ikonia, how can i check under each category which list of applications will get installed for example 1. publishing application 2. photograph touchup and editing suite.
[13:28] <ikonia> xtriz: they are just meta packages as I recall, so check the depends
[13:28] <rickyc> Hi, is Unity 8 testable for desktop yet
[13:28] <ikonia> daniel_fr: so do what I told you to do
[13:29] <daniel_fr> I don't understant how it boot on it after puting exit
[13:29] <daniel_fr> -t+d
[13:29] <ChogyDan> daniel_fr: if you are able to start, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[13:29] <ikonia> daniel_fr: I've just lost interest as I've told you the first step in debugging it
[13:29] <xtriz> ikonia, how can i check the depends ?
[13:29] <ikonia> daniel_fr: and you've not done it and keep talking about other things
[13:29] <daniel_fr> I go to do this
[13:29] <ikonia> xtriz: you're meant to be learning
[13:30] <daniel_fr> but I was on bios features
[13:30] <xtriz> ikonia, ok sir :)
[13:31]  * xtriz googles out
[13:31] <ChogyDan> xtriz: you should check `man tasksel`   there is a tasksel --task-packages thing
[13:31] <ikonia> ChogyDan: that's useful, didn't know that
[13:31] <danielfr> re
[13:32] <danielfr> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/fahfKu4N
[13:32] <ikonia> danielfr: I'm not interested
[13:32] <ikonia> I didn't ask for a pastebin
[13:32] <danielfr> oh
[13:33] <danielfr> Its ok
[13:33] <ChogyDan> danielfr: the next step would be to pastebin your `sudo blkid` output
[13:33] <xtriz> ChogyDan, correct but for example the task is mail server, when doing tasksel --task-packages mail server  it doesn't works
[13:34] <danielfr> http://pastebin.com/Wtq5SQXg
[13:35] <ChogyDan> xtriz: from tasksel --list-tasks it is mail-server.  Make sense?  you need the - fwiw
[13:35] <danielfr> same results
[13:36] <xtriz> ChogyDan, awesome :)
[13:37] <Rallias> So... I'm using ZNC 1.0+deb2ubuntu1 on a brand new ubuntu install in a xen container... and it's randomly disconnecting from the IRCd... what all can I do about this?
[13:38] <ChogyDan> danielfr: yeah, I dunno. :( sor
[13:38] <Fra_Supercar83> Hi everybody
[13:38] <danielfr> I don"t know where is my pb :/
[13:39] <alnr> I'm getting an error from apt-get update, "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 29B2064E7DF49CEF". I added the key with "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 3E5C1192 && gpg -a --export 3E5C1192 | apt-key add -"  and apt-key list then shows "1024D/3E5C1192 2010-09-20    Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key" but I'm still getting this
[13:39] <alnr> error. any ideas?
[13:39] <desnaike> linuxmint
[13:43] <ChogyDan> alnr: are you sure it is for the ubuntu server?
[13:45] <xtriz> ChogyDan, for packages having long names it doesn't work, eg virtual machine host
[13:46] <xtriz> i tired virtual-machine-host
[13:46] <ChogyDan> xtriz: check again, it is virt-host
[13:46] <xtriz> how did you find that ?
[13:47] <ChogyDan> xtriz: tasksel --list-tasks
[13:47] <xtriz> ChogyDan, ok got it now.
[13:48] <xtriz> thank you so much for making it easy :)
[13:48] <ChogyDan> np
[13:48] <alnr> ChogyDan: i am not, now. when i googled for 29B2064E7DF49CEF, there was one hit, giving me 3E5C1192 but that looks like it is not for key 29B2064E7DF49CEF.
[13:49] <ChogyDan> alnr: I think it says in the apt-get update output.  These errors are ignorable btw
[13:52] <alnr> ah ok, it says the following signatures couldnt be verified but then there are no following signatures. I had other key errors that were stopping upgrades before but maybe this one is harmless
[13:52] <alnr> just did oneric > precise > raring
[13:54] <hillary> i have just install ubuntu 12.04 in my laptop. it install successfully but it is not showing desktop items  what could be the issue?
[13:55] <hillary> The screen is blank without any items to display
[13:56] <hillary> anybody to help/
[13:56] <Johnny_Linux> maybe you burned the disc to fast
[13:56] <Johnny_Linux> try burning it slower than 12x
[13:57] <hillary> The same cd i have used to install in my desktop and it worked well
[13:57] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[13:58] <ahmed_> d
[13:58] <ahmed_> df
[13:58] <zileara_>  Burn it at 1x, just to be sure.
[13:58] <ahmed_> how to chat in nimbuzz
[13:59] <zileara_>  While it burns, you can meditate about your life and the choices that brought you there.
[13:59] <schreber> anyone having a similar issue trying to add a printer to 13.10 beta ?
[13:59] <zileara_>  I am having issues with skype, but my imaginary printer is doing ok.
[13:59] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 > schreber
[14:04] <hillary> so it could be the speed i used to burn it?
[14:05] <Johnny_Linux> not if it worked before
[14:06] <hillary> so any suggestion?
[14:06] <decci> I am trying to follow http://www.mappian.com/blog/hadoop/using-hadoop-to-analyze-the-full-wikipedia-dump-files-using-wikihadoop/
[14:06] <user82> is there something like a "up" key in nautilus that goes to the folder ../?
[14:07] <decci>  -inputformat : class not found : org.wikimedia.wikihadoop.StreamWikiDumpInputFormat Streaming Command Failed!
[14:07] <decci> Any idea how to fix this?
[14:09] <hillary> my laptop just stop reading cd but it reads dvds. What could be the issue ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:11] <zileara__>  There is a leak in my flat, so every time the neighbour takes a bath, it floods my kitchen. Can I ruin some valuables and sue the building owner for that?
[14:12] <majorJ> zileara__: do you have root priveleges?
[14:13] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[14:17] <funky1> hi there could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU
[14:18] <info_guy_34> how can i have a ubuntu running always online working for me...i mean is there a way for me to have a cloud ubuntu?
[14:19] <ikonia> info_guy_34: what are you talking about "cloud" ubuntu
[14:19] <ikonia> info_guy_34: there are many cloud host providers, just use one of them
[14:20] <santi_2010> hello
[14:20] <majorJ> so the entire debian packaging system will be thrown out and replaced with a myriad of tiny python scripts?
[14:21] <santi_2010> Does anyone now where to download Ubuntu 13.04 iso from a fastest server?
[14:21] <ChogyDan> santi_2010: maybe try bittorrent
[14:21] <bwayne> info_guy_34: you could simply run ssh only your machine and either have your IP address handy or use no-ip.com to setup a dynamic dns.
[14:22] <santi_2010> Thanks ChogyDan
[14:22] <zileara__>  Did we ever have skype on the repository , or am I imagining things?
[14:22] <majorJ> so my applications will be able to run sandbox python from 13.10 on?
[14:22] <info_guy_34> bwayne i see sound bit difficult..
[14:23] <bwayne> info_guy_34: not really. it's just a couple of steps. install openssh, run sshd, open port 22, and away you go.
[14:24] <bwayne> info_guy_34: there are lots of tutorials on internets
[14:24] <info_guy_34> bwayne ok i'll search on those ..thx dude
[14:24] <bwayne> info_guy_34: no prob. i think you'll find it's pretty simple.
[14:24] <majorJ> bwayne: sounds like a networking issue
[14:25] <bwayne> majorJ: how so?
[14:25] <bwayne> majorJ: info_guy_34 : the port forwarding in the router is thoroughly explained in any tutorial.
[14:26] <bwayne> it's trivial.
[14:26] <majorJ> bwayne: right
[14:26] <funky1> could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU
[14:28] <zileara__>  If you are having trouble with samba, the best thing to do is imagine a large "square" for your steps, and then slowly make it smaller as you get better.
[14:28] <user82> majorJ, waht do you mean?
[14:28] <zileara__>  Eventually, you will be fit for a brazilian carnival.
[14:28] <majorJ> user82: i dont understand the question actually. cloud Ubuntu running always online wroking for me? what ?
[14:29] <user82> majorJ, about debian package system
[14:29] <majorJ> oh
[14:30] <majorJ> user82: I heard that python scripts will run along side apps now not requiring them to install from root access or whatever and that means that maybe running mobile apps sandbox?
[14:31] <zileara_>  Why xchat wont let me in as root?
[14:31] <gvo> zileara_Is it giving you an error message?
[14:32] <mrrcp> zileara_: prob your username
[14:32] <mrrcp> ~root
[14:33] <smw94> let in as root ?
[14:33] <Bonanza> gvo, yes.
[14:33] <user82> ah majorJ thanks for explaining
[14:33] <Bonanza> "Running xchat as a root is stupid, you should create an user account, bla bla bla"
[14:33] <mrrcp> ahh
[14:34] <gvo> Bonanza: running most anything as root unless you have to is stupid, I agree.
[14:34] <majorJ> user82: i actully have no clue sorry mate. its like. debian stays but there is another script
[14:34] <mrrcp> yep
[14:35] <zileara__> "Running xchat as a root is stupid, you should create an user account, bla bla bla"
[14:35] <mrrcp> zileara__:  why run as root anyways
[14:35] <mrrcp> ?
[14:37] <majorJ> am i missing something or do i have to tinker with the light.dm to change my login screen wallpaper? in essence. how do i easily chang emy login screen wall paper? what is the command line for editing the lightdm file that contains the loginscreenwall paper if i need to?
[14:39] <majorJ> is it the same file as the unity-greeter?
[14:41] <trijntje> hi all, I'm trying to use wine in windowed mode, but once I interact with the window I cannot escape any more
[14:45] <HypnotiX> where are the terminal shortcut commands stored?
[14:45] <HypnotiX> because i have a command that its not returning anything and i want to know what the linked path is
[14:45] <bwayne> HypnotiX: try 'which <command>'
[14:46] <funky1> could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU
[14:46] <bwayne> funky1: I ran a smb server some time back. I can't be of help. Don't understand your logs.  Sry.
[14:47] <HypnotiX> bwayne: ok it seems that the command is linked to a file that is a shortcut, but i dont think it leads to anything
[14:47] <bwayne> HypnotiX: what does the which command output?
[14:48] <HypnotiX> /usr/bin/yo
[14:48] <bwayne> try 'file /usr/bin/yo'
[14:48] <HypnotiX> and that yo file is a shortcut
[14:49] <HypnotiX> /usr/bin/yo: symbolic link to `../lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo'
[14:49] <bwayne> OK. 'file ../lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo'
[14:50] <hewei> How to enable the global menu of eclipse?
[14:50] <hewei> I'm using eclipse kepler
[14:50] <HypnotiX> well with the .. its not working
[14:51] <HypnotiX> but with the correct path it returns /usr/lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo: a /usr/bin/env node script, ASCII text executable
[14:52] <neopsyche> Strange. Wireless manager keeps saying it cant add a new network
[14:53] <hillary> Am still unable to figure out why my ubuntu 12.04 could not work on my laptop.It does not load desktop items
[14:53] <neopsyche> anyone help with wireless manager
[14:53] <hillary> But it install nicely
[14:53] <bwayne> HypnotiX: OK.  Perhaps try relinking it to the correct path.
[14:53] <HypnotiX> how
[14:54] <bwayne> sudo rm /usr/bin/yo ; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo /usr/bin/yo
[14:54] <mrrcp> hillary: what do u mean does not load desktop items?
[14:55] <smw94> what is the lightest Dsktp Manager ?
[14:55] <HypnotiX> bwayne: still the same results running the command returns nothing
[14:55] <HypnotiX> meh
[14:55] <hillary> when it boots up the screen just remain blank without anything. I mean desktopis just orange with mouse pointer only
[14:56] <JimboPea> Hi, having a problem on xubuntu 13.04. have a rtl8188ce wireless card and the speeds are low with it dropping out often. tried installing the driver off the realtek website which just disabled it. had to reinstall to fix. Can anyone help?
[14:56] <bwayne> HypnotiX: try running it directly with '/usr/lib/nob_modules/yo/bin/yo'.
[14:57] <HypnotiX> yeah same results
[14:57] <HypnotiX> i guess its broken
[14:57] <bwayne> paste yo to a pastebin for me.
[14:58] <HypnotiX> http://pastebin.com/yTeP4R3T
[14:59] <john_john> Is it ok to ask for help with Linux Mint here since it's based off ubuntu or is it prohibited?
[14:59] <funky1> thx anyhow bwayne
[14:59] <funky1> anyone else maybe?
[14:59] <funky1> could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU
[14:59] <BluesKaj> john_john:  no
[14:59] <john_john> blueskaj ok :<
[15:01] <justinpeel> wow.. made it here. anyone else's video all screwed up after the last set of updates?
[15:01] <john_john> yes, mine
[15:01] <mrrcp> john_john: just ask
[15:02] <justinpeel> I just started up after installing updates last night. no menu bar on top. no dash on left
[15:02] <mrrcp> no one really cares
[15:02] <justinpeel> system is super slow
[15:02] <houser> I really cannot understand how people can say linux is the most stable system...seriously....ubuntu is the most unstable system i have ever used...it crashes minimum 3 times a day and i have to reboot...pretty much a joke. Also it cannot control the cooling fan so computer is awfully hot...and then there is the problem with my optimus graphic card...also dont work on ubuntu...most stable system...not really...sorry i just had to get t
[15:02] <houser> hat of my chest...
[15:02] <john_john> mrrcp: okay, err so whenever I'm trying to add a ppa or install certain programs the terminal spits out that there is "no json object could be decoded"
[15:03] <mrrcp> houser: linux is the most stable slick
[15:03] <houser> mrrcp, slick?
[15:03] <mrrcp> your computer is just junk or not configured
[15:04] <john_john> mrrcp: how do I configure it?
[15:04] <john_john> Oh you didnt answer me, sorry
[15:04] <houser> mrrcp, its not junk its a lenovo w520...call that junk and you dont really know much about computers...Configured?? I installed ubuntu...that should be configuration enough if ubuntu should have any chance at all against osx and windows
[15:05] <Daedric> I have Ubuntu 13.04 with VirtualBox, but VirtualBox is not detecting my USB, I want to transfer some data from my system to my virtualbox.
[15:06] <gvo> daedric: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html
[15:06] <majorJ> houser: you have the wrong iso installed maybe? thinkpads run ubuntu fine. what distro are you running ? did you install from cd or live usb etc?
[15:06] <Daedric> gvo, tried that, doesn't work.
[15:06] <justinpeel> okay.. another screwed up update. maybe I'll switch to fedora or centos.
[15:06] <mrrcp> no you john_john
[15:06] <mrrcp> not
[15:06] <mrrcp> lol
[15:07] <john_john> yeah i realized lol
[15:07] <houser> majorJ, running 12.10 ubuntu desktop edition. installed from usb stick
[15:07] <yeats> john_john: have you tried just manually adding that line to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list (or as a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/)?
[15:07] <mrrcp> houser: linux isnt worried about osx or windows.. never has been and never will..
[15:07] <john_john> yeats: yes, and it works but it doesn't really fix the bug though.
[15:07] <mrrcp> w520
[15:07] <yeats> john_john: and this is Linux Mint, yes?
[15:08] <john_john> yeats: yes
[15:08] <yeats> john_john: okay - then you'll need to report that to them
[15:08] <momin90909> Hey everyone Ubuntu cant display Urdu correctly in firefox
[15:08] <momin90909> how can I fix it
[15:08] <majorJ> houser: use Unetbootin and create a new live usb with a good iso of 13.04 and you should be good. do a clean install
[15:08] <houser> mrrcp, well...those are in fact the competitors which normal users are using ;) and will keep using as long as linux dont really work
[15:08] <john_john> yeats: yeah I know, their channel is dead :/
[15:08] <yeats> !mint
[15:09] <houser> mrrcp, so maybe linux should start worrying...
[15:09] <mrrcp> houser: lol sure
[15:09] <majorJ> houser: am running 13.04 desktop on a x220 no probs
[15:09] <gvo> houser for every one of you there are 100s that get it working just fine.
[15:10] <houser> gvo, every one of me?
[15:10] <mrrcp> houser NORMAL USER
[15:10] <mrrcp> houser.. what version do you have loaded
[15:10] <bwayne> HypnotiX: is this a node.js script?
[15:10] <mrrcp> let see if we can figure out the prob
[15:10] <houser> mrrcp, 12.10
[15:10] <HypnotiX> bwayne: yes
[15:10] <gvo> houser for every one of you guys that have problems ...
[15:10] <mrrcp> ok
[15:11] <mrrcp> have you attempted the new version?
[15:11] <mrrcp> to use
[15:11] <momin90909> Linux works fine as long as you dont try to get into root
[15:11] <HypnotiX> bwayne: i installed yeomen the same at work on ubuntu and it worked, i have no idea why it doesnt work at home
[15:11] <Daghdha> When i open software center i get 'package operation failed' i can't install anything it seems. ANy magic commandline to fix this?
[15:12] <mrrcp> houser: you should use 12.04
[15:12] <mrrcp> and see how that works out for you
[15:12] <houser> mrrcp, why would 1204 be better? because its lts?
[15:12] <mrrcp> yep
[15:12] <momin90909> houser: latest is best
[15:12] <bwayne> HypnotiX: well, I'm not familiar enough with JS to really parse it accurately. I'm supposing that console.log means to print to the screen.  But i'm not sure. Maybe there's a node.js irc channel?
[15:13] <mrrcp> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS is a long-term support release. It has continuous hardware support improvements as well as guaranteed security and support updates until April 2017.
[15:13] <HypnotiX> bwayne: yeah, that channel is dead im afraid
[15:13] <blub1> Hi guys got some trouble with my touchpad on Macbook3,1 on Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 where can i get help? thanks
[15:13] <mrrcp> houser: even i had issues with the new 13.04 out of the box.
[15:13] <mrrcp> 12.04 works with zero issues right out of the box
[15:13] <houser> mrrcp, on which machine?
[15:14] <mrrcp> houser i have multiple computers
[15:14] <mrrcp> Dell e4300 and a Lenovo t430
[15:14] <mrrcp> are the two laptops
[15:14] <houser> mrrcp, when is the next lts due?
[15:14] <bwayne> HypnotiX: try mailing list then.  or re-installing. perhaps there are environmental variables that must be set. I just don't know. Definitely not a symlink error. Sorry. :(
[15:14] <HypnotiX> bwayne: thats anyway for trying
[15:14] <bwayne> My opinion: LTS always the best.
[15:15] <bwayne> HypnotiX: no prob. we eliminated one possibility. that's always a good start.:)
[15:15] <mrrcp> houser: im not sure
[15:15] <houser> mrrcp, which lts was the last one before 12.04
[15:16] <momin90909> but anyone know how to fix Urdu language rendering in firefox
[15:16] <houser> ah 14.04 will benext lts
[15:16] <momin90909> and also are Ubuntu users increasing or decreasing over time
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> momin90909  what country is urdu language from?
[15:17] <houser> sweet...only 7more months b4 next lts :)
[15:17] <mrrcp> Releases 6.06, 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 are the LTS releases
[15:17] <momin90909> @MonkeyDust: Pakistan
[15:18] <Daghdha> how can i force apt get to throw stuff away even if there are depndancy issues?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> momin90909  #ubuntu-in would be closest to ask for help on Urdu, i guess
[15:19] <vlt> Hello. What command will just show a completely black terminal screen without any cursor? Any quick idea?
[15:19] <houser> MonkeyDust, dist upgrade
[15:22] <Daghdha> Can someone help me repair the ubuntu packages? I ran an update and now it is broken. http://pastebin.com/wurqKVSV
[15:22] <streulma> hello, sometimes I feel me sic working with Mac OS X, I like more and more Linux, and in our Community we use Ubuntu on the notebooks
[15:23] <streulma> I'm the only one with Mac OS X, and feel me sic that I'm not working with Ubuntu :)
[15:23] <netlar> streulma: I have OS X too
[15:23] <mrrcp> ?
[15:23] <streulma> netlar: I will come in to the Ubuntu Community :)
[15:24] <streulma> netlar: tried Ubuntu on my Mac native, but I have the overheating problem, the notebook is very hot !
[15:24] <netlar> streulma: I have an Ubuntu box too, not sure I will want to buy another Mac
[15:24] <mrrcp> why buy a 1000 paper weight
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> netlar  streulma please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat
[15:24] <mrrcp> when u can run ubuntu! for cheap lol
[15:25] <Daghdha> how can i FORCE packages to be uninstalled despite dependancies?
[15:25] <rodrigo> Could some one help me with steam?
[15:25] <Daghdha> It's l ike i have circulair dependancies or something
[15:26] <Daghdha> apt-get
[15:26] <streulma> this is not offtopic, I would know how that I can reduce my hot Macbook
[15:26] <blub1> Hi, Cant load Synaptics Driver on Ubuntu13.04 Macbook3,1 Tauchpad not Working and Touchpad missing in SystemSettings. Anyone got idea how to fix?
[15:26] <coolstar> just moved my ubuntu install to my SSD... and whoa
[15:26] <coolstar> instant boot
[15:26] <smw94>  how to remove duplicate package list ? i've checked source list, nothing is duplicated
[15:26] <smw94> http://ubuntuone.com/1kPxu1yvG9QfIBFiNSsqEj
[15:26] <rodrigo> In Amnesia there is an option to change the sound to alsa. That solved my problem in that game. But there is another game where there is no such option. Is there a way to force using alsa?
[15:30] <brainhead> i haven't been on irc since 2003. wow. anyway, is there a way to create folders on the desktop? i can do it in terminal, but i don't see the folder appear on the desktop
[15:30] <brainhead> i am running ubuntu 12.04 lts
[15:31] <ekiwok> brainhead, I'm pretty sure tou have to change settings and it will display all from your desktop folder
[15:31] <brainhead> maybe i need to 'downgrade' to gnome 2?
[15:31] <ekiwok> brainhead, do you have gnome 3?
[15:31] <ekiwok> or unity? :>
[15:31] <brainhead> my ubuntu is running unity
[15:32] <deav> Can I swap to a 64 bit kernel after installation of 32 bit Ubuntu Desktop?
[15:32] <brainhead> i prefer a messy desktop
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> deav, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever :|
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> if you install a 64-bit ubuntu distro, stick with 64-bit kernels
[15:33] <deav> Ari-Yang, I am asking if it's possible to perform an in-place migration from Ubuntu 32-bit (32-bit binaries, libraries, kernel, etc) to Ubuntu 64-bit
[15:33] <brainhead> deav, sounds logical
[15:34] <ekiwok> brainhead, it is the matter of settings in unity and gnome3, have you googled? you may install myunity from sources and then check show desktop icons
[15:34] <BluesKaj> deav:  yes if you install the OS to / ,and save you /home without formatting
[15:34] <ekiwok> brainhead, it was asked before: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126540/how-to-add-a-show-desktop-icon-to-the-launcher
[15:34] <BluesKaj> you must format / of course. deav
[15:34] <deav> yes I get that BluesKaj
[15:34] <jackw411> hey guys. i run ubuntu12.04 as my main development rig. i don' know alot about hardware support. basically, I want to purchase an external usb soundcard (preferably with some kind of volume knob to change volume) that will work with ubuntu12.04
[15:35] <parapan> hi fellows, can someone help me upgrade evolution in ubuntu 12.04 pls ?
[15:35] <jackw411> where would I find compatibility guides? everything I've found so far looks dated
[15:35] <BluesKaj> deav:  do you have / and /home partitions on the install ?
[15:35] <brainhead> ekiwok, when i last tried to access askubuntu.org (from a google search) i got a message that the web site was down for maintanance.
[15:35] <ekiwok> BluesKaj, are you sure deav have to format / ? here is thread about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6176/how-do-i-upgrade-from-x86-to-x64-without-losing-settings
[15:35] <ekiwok> brainhead, works fine for me now
[15:35] <brainhead> i'll revisit the site. thanks!
[15:36] <BluesKaj> ekiwok:  I just did it 2 days ago as an experiment , no problems so far
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> [11:33:02] <deav> Ari-Yang, I am asking if it's possible to perform an in-place migration from Ubuntu 32-bit (32-bit binaries, libraries, kernel, etc) to Ubuntu 64-bi---> ah, I see what you mean. Good luck~
[15:36] <rodrigo> When I play a game using pulse I hear a lot of clicks. If I knew that name of this problem I could Google that.
[15:36] <agyzone> Ubuntu 12.10 is very unstable ?
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> agyzone, I'm still using it and have no problems....
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> agyzone: ** OS: Linux 3.11.0-996-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10 **
[15:37] <brainhead> i like to stick to the LTS releases
[15:37] <deav> I was in a rush setting this machine up (so much so that I didn't notice that I was installing 32 bit Ubuntu) so no there's only one partition for /
[15:37] <deav> Backup /home, and back to the drawing board for me. Thanks for your time Ari-Yang, ekiwok, BluesKaj
[15:38] <BluesKaj> deav: then you have to do a clean install
[15:38] <agyzone> I had the most basic of Wireless Network card issue ... This issue was not shown when I has installed Ubuntu 10
[15:38] <brainhead> deav, you might save more time by rushing through a reinstall to 64 bit rather than trying to convert from x86 to x64
[15:38] <ekiwok> deav please notice some settings may be different for the same programs running on different architectures even x86 and amd64
[15:39] <deav> I am going to do that brainhead, backing up my home dir as we speak
[15:40] <Ari-Yang> agyzone, if you're upgrading from 10.... then you might as well install 12.04
[15:40] <Ari-Yang> no reason to install 12.10 now
[15:40] <jackw411> 12.04lts -> Creative SB1300 Recon 3D V0.3 <- will this work?
[15:40] <Ari-Yang> and you'd be upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 in several months
[15:40] <BluesKaj> deav:  make separate / and /home partitions , suggest using the manual partion method in Ubuquity
[15:40] <agyzone> I am not upgrading .. i had previously installed ver 10, untill i realize that the updates were not avaiiable
[15:41] <deav> yeah, got no problem with that BluesKaj and I never usually use auto-installer. Was just rushing really
[15:41] <agyzone> so i uninstalled it and installed ubuntu 12.10
[15:41] <BluesKaj> deav:  ok , good