[11:40] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, just use the refind-install refind is a bootloader and it installs a file in the EFI folder that allows you to select from most if not all installed osses on the system
[11:41] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I think i'll use the minimal install but pick to install the lxde desktop package
[11:41] <ikonia> TikityTik2: I think thats a very bad idea
[11:41] <ikonia> TikityTik2: as you are proving because things are not working fo ryou
[11:41] <TikityTik2> ikonia: why's that? it's a faster install for me too I think
[11:41] <ikonia> no it's not
[11:41] <lapion> one of the options of refind is that it detects efi-stub kernels and adds them to the "bootlist" so you can select them
[11:41] <ikonia> it's faster because it's missing things you need
[11:41] <ikonia> and you'll need to manually work out all the additional things you need
[11:41] <Ben64> lapion: what does that solve?
[11:42] <ubuntu-user123> laption, refind-install: command not found
[11:42] <ikonia> so you'll end up installing the other stuff anyway
[11:42] <ikonia> why make it hard on yourself
[11:42] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I'm thinking that installing x86_64 made it slow
[11:42] <lapion> Ben64, the refind then boot the kernel as a efi program that gives the kernel full-access to the system hardware
[11:42] <TikityTik2> could that be the case?
[11:42] <ikonia> why did you use 64bit on such a low spec machine
[11:42] <ikonia> it certainly won't help
[11:43] <TikityTik2> ikonia: because someone said my cpu supports 64 bit instruction
[11:43] <Ben64> lapion: makes no sense
[11:43] <ikonia> TikityTik2: it won't slow your machine down that much to be honest, there is an overhead but like %2 something like that
[11:43] <lapion> Ben64, the efi normally starts with the efifb and masks the actual graphical hardware.
[11:44] <TikityTik2> but if i use a regular lubuntu install, won't it make the laptop slower? It's only 512 ddr2 mb  single core 1.7 GH
[11:44] <ikonia> TikityTik2: no
[11:44] <ikonia> TikityTik2: no more than doing a minimal install then installing hte packages
[11:44] <ikonia> TikityTik2: bottom line is - your laptop is to slow
[11:44] <TikityTik2> ikonia: then which lubuntu install do you recommend
[11:45] <TikityTik2> ikonia: that's why trying to make it so it's fast enough to run skype or firefox
[11:45] <ikonia> I recommend lubuntu
[11:45] <TikityTik2> 16.04?
[11:45] <ikonia> TikityTik2: you just have to accept the limitation of your machine
[11:45] <ikonia> TikityTik2: 16.04 is the current lts release, so yes
[11:46] <TikityTik2> some people recommended me older versions implying they were faster
[11:46] <ikonia> they are wrong
[11:47] <ubuntu-user123> Any help please
[11:49] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, are you using another os on the system ?
[11:50] <ubuntu-user123> laption, yes
[11:51] <ubuntu-user123> Windows
[11:51] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, try installing refind from the other os
[11:52] <ubuntu-user123> laption, and grub for dos?
[11:52] <ubuntu-user123> https://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/
[11:53] <lapion> no need ubuntu-user123
[11:53] <TikityTik2> ikonia: lubuntu crashes when it tries to setup
[11:54] <TikityTik2> after i go through all the options like locale, time, erase whole disk
[11:55] <MWM> Hi, I am having trouble with random powerdowns.  I am confident the hadware is OK,but still checking
[11:55] <ikonia> TikityTik2: define crashes
[11:55] <ubuntu-user123> laption, and why grub2 So bad?
[11:55] <MWM> Ive checked apport and the crashlogs, but havent seen anything that stands out to me
[11:56] <lapion> grub2 does not allways work correct..
[11:56] <TikityTik2> ikonia: during the install, the installatin throws an error. but i think i got it working after retrying.
[11:56] <lapion> you could try grub2-efi ubuntu-user123
[11:56] <MWM> this issue sometimes happens within hours, but can be as much as a few days or a week in between instances
[11:56] <ubuntu-user123> laption, no
[11:56] <ikonia> I suspect the actually installer maybe using more ram than you have
[11:57] <TikityTik2> ikonia: I had that problem too with xubuntu
[11:57] <hateball> MWM: Are you confident the hardware is OK because you've actually tested it?
[11:57] <ikonia> TikityTik2: the installer can take up resources as it's displaying a full X11 setup, while running from ram, while also trying to process packages to a chroot to install
[11:58] <MWM> Ive replaced everything but the drives and the drives check out okay in smartmontools.  Im just not 100% about the power supply because I hvent taken a multimeter after it yet
[11:58] <TikityTik2> ikonia: which is why i wanted lubuntu-minimal
[11:58] <MWM> however it is presumed to be good as it is a replacement
[11:58] <TikityTik2> as lubuntu-minimal does it through a bios like menu
[11:58] <ikonia> TikityTik2: I get that, but you're still going to hit the run time problems
[12:00] <ubuntu-user123> Why Ubuntu use this old bootloader if it no always work?
[12:00] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, which one ?
[12:01] <ubuntu-user123> laption, grub
[12:01] <Dead_Office> lol
[12:02] <hateball> MWM: Have you checked your RAM? Could CPU/GPU be overheating?
[12:03] <MWM> RAM, cpu, gpu, and motherboard are all new as well.  Decent cooling on all.  Temps are well inside safe margins while monitoring with psensor.  Basically, I think so :)
[12:06] <_MyStartx_> install centos minimal, ubuntu is big and lazy
[12:07] <MWM> anyone have any advice on what exactly I should look for in the logs?  dmesg is empty and so is the apport log.  syslog and kern.log have alot of stuff and I dont know what I should look at for certain
[12:07] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, grub works on certain older systems..
[12:08] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, grub2 works on newer system
[12:08] <MWM> there arent any big warnings or anything that *looks* out of place though
[12:08] <ubuntu-user123> laption, LVM + NVIDIA = grub sucks
[12:10] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, it's an uefi problem
[12:10] <ubuntu-user123> laption, its grub problem
[12:11] <ubuntu-user123> laption, grub outdated
[12:11] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, every manufactur creates it's own uefi and they tend to try to make it windows compatible and never think about other oses
[12:12] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why grub no solve this problem?
[12:12] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, every day a new manuafacturer makes a new incompatible uefi verion
[12:13] <ubuntu-user123> laption, developers can update code
[12:13] <ubuntu-user123> ok
[12:13] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I can install Legacy
[12:13] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, so grub has to fix uefi bugs ?
[12:14] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why refind work and grub not?
[12:14] <lapion> most of the time grub2-efi should work
[12:14] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why Ubuntu not use it?
[12:14] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, too new hardware
[12:15] <ubuntu-user123> 2013
[12:15] <ubuntu-user123> not new
[12:15] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, try going to manufacturers site and see if they have newer firmware for the laptop
[12:15] <ubuntu-user123> laption, how to install grub2-efi?
[12:16] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I use desktop
[12:16] <sypher> ubuntu-user123: GRUB is written to a standard that many manufacturers choose to ignore. That's not the GRUB developers' problem to fix.
[12:16] <sypher> They write to the standard.
[12:16] <ubuntu-user123> ok
[12:17] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, same applies to desktop see if manufacturer has newer firmware for the mainboard
[12:17] <ubuntu-user123> But LVM work without Nvidia driver, Nvidia driver work without LVM and LVM + Nvidia driver = not work!
[12:18] <ubuntu-user123> laption, I use lastest BIOS
[12:18] <ubuntu-user123> 2016
[12:18] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, do you need encrypted lvm ?
[12:18] <ubuntu-user123> laption, yes
[12:19] <lapion> why not use nouveau ?
[12:20] <ubuntu-user123> laption, nouveau is slow
[12:20] <ubuntu-user123> laption, and have a bugs
[12:20] <ubuntu-user123> laption, why no work LVM encrypted + Nvidia driver?
[12:21] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, see #nvidia
[12:21] <ubuntu-user123> laption, its motherboard?
[12:22] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, no nvidia driver has problems with lvm not linux..
[12:23] <RossoNeroDentro> hello is it still safe to use Windws Xp from VirtualBox and Ubuntu as Host for the programs you need to emulate people?
[12:24] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, try wine ?
[12:24] <RossoNeroDentro> what i need to run dosen't work on wine
[12:24] <RossoNeroDentro> wine is basically mostly useless so far for most programs
[12:25] <RossoNeroDentro> but i been told on virutal machine Xp is still safe is this true?
[12:25] <krabador> RossoNeroDentro, please ask to your friends?
[12:25] <krabador> :D
[12:25] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, does the program need networking
[12:26] <RossoNeroDentro> yes it's Paltalk and ManyCam
[12:26] <krabador> *!
[12:26] <RossoNeroDentro> so one chat and one cam
[12:26] <RossoNeroDentro> my friends use it no problem with Ubuntu just as host and Xp Sp3 but i  want to be sure
[12:27] <RossoNeroDentro> plus im going install vpn on Xp forgott that also lapion  and use Opera as browser
[12:27] <lapion> your virtualbox system can become a distributor of malware without you knowing it.
[12:28] <krabador> lapion, but RossoNeroDentro's friends have all a configuration like that.
[12:28] <lapion> this problem is not related to linux
[12:28] <RossoNeroDentro> so what you advise lapion  to use W7 with slow updates i mean emulate that and turn off updates ?
[12:29] <RossoNeroDentro> or Emulate w10 with anti beacon and all privacy tweeks?
[12:29] <RossoNeroDentro> i got Xp here W7 Home Basic but updates are basically gone since microsoft is pushing W10 and also W10 wich you advise me to emulate lapion ?
[12:30] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, installing a system in a virtual environment on top of linux does not make it as safe as linux or a linux problem
[12:30] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: do you still have the 367 driver installed? you need the kernel parameter "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" to enable kms. not sure if it helps, but it's something to try
[12:31] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, and how to do it?
[12:32] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, add to cfg?
[12:32] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: same way you use nomodeset, edit grub option
[12:32] <ubuntu-user123> ok
[12:32] <RossoNeroDentro> yes i understand what you mean lapion  , since Xp lacks of updates so the solution is either W7 with turned off updates as they take too long to install of W10 all tweaked up to stop the psying from microsoft wich you avise me to emulate between the 2 so i can the programs i need lapion ?
[12:32] <RossoNeroDentro> spying*
[12:33] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, quet splash need to remove?
[12:34] <lapion> RossoNeroDentro, no what I mean to say is that running a system on top of linux does not make it a ubuntu problem or issue
[12:34] <Li> I've tried #umake android android-studio which started fine then throw this error or warning
[12:34] <Li> (process:14792): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/ubuntu/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.
[12:34] <ubuntu-user123> hateball,  quiet splash $vt_handoff
[12:34] <RossoNeroDentro> yes i know but i been told on security room that since Xp lacks of updates even on the virtualmachine could become host for hackers to ddos upload child porn or  malware as you say
[12:34] <Li> why not able to do such task while I've given the command as a root?
[12:34] <RossoNeroDentro> i mean easy target
[12:35] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: yes put it on that line, without the ""
[12:35] <RossoNeroDentro> mabye is best i emulate W10 since updates in w7 are basically gone for the most lapion  as i need to know wich of these 3 you advise me to emulate
[12:35] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: you can keep quiet splash, but it can be useful to remove to see more info
[12:35] <RossoNeroDentro> for the rest i know how to secure windows well :l from a virtual machine
[12:36] <eggggs> what about play on linux or crossover?
[12:36] <eggggs> i have windows office 2010 running like a champ
[12:37] <RossoNeroDentro> for now the psybot anti beacon seems doing amazing on W10 for those who still use it as Host or Emulated lapion  with other few tweeks it makes it super safe
[12:37] <RossoNeroDentro> spybot*
[12:38] <ubuntu-user123> hateball,  and  $vt_handoff ?
[12:38] <hateball> ubuntu-user123: yes keep that
[12:38] <RossoNeroDentro> once we got rid of telemetry and remote host and did disable other tracking and remote connect stuff in w10 we are pretty ok seems ill wait your advise lapion  on what to emulat then thanks
[12:38] <ubuntu-user123> hateball,  ok
[12:41] <RossoNeroDentro> are you still here lapion ?
[12:42] <ubuntu-user123> brb
[12:50] <ubuntu-user123> On nvidia channel said: need disable splashboot or screen idk and need use text boot
[12:53] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, so add: nomodeset nosplash and remove quiet
[12:54] <ubuntu-user123> lapion, and $vt_handoff?
[12:54] <lapion> leave that one
[12:54] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and what is it?
[12:55] <lapion> make sure nouveau is blacklisted and nvidia is not
[12:55] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and nvidia-drm.modeset=1 ?
[12:56] <ubuntu-user123> hateball, ?
[12:56] <daumie> "Talk is cheap, show me code" Linus Torvalds
[12:56] <lapion> if you add that one do not add nomodeset
[12:57] <ubuntu-user123> ro nosplash $vt_handoff nvidia-drm.modeset=1 	initrd	/initrd.img-4.4.0-24-generic
[12:57] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and noquiet?
[12:57] <lapion> something like that
[12:57] <lapion> noquiet doesn't do anything..
[12:58] <lapion> ubuntu-user123, only quiet disables the kernel output
[12:58] <roshan> HI
[12:58] <tatertots> hi
[12:58] <boriseto> is there a history for ubuntu when it has been started/turned off? some timestamps?
[12:59] <roshan> Any one have idea for screen sharing from windows to ubuntu over skype ?
[12:59] <hateball> boriseto: "last"
[12:59] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, and blocklisting?
[12:59] <boriseto> hateball: ty.
[12:59] <roshan> skype screen sharing not working from ubuntu to windows ?
[13:00] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, I afraid it encrypted
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:00] <tatertots> hi blue
[13:01] <ubuntu-user123> lapian, ?
[13:01] <roshan> is there anu solution for skype screen sharing issue from ubuntu to windows ?
[13:01] <roshan> is there any solution for skype screen sharing issue from ubuntu to windows ?
[13:03] <tatertots> if you need to view the ubuntu desktop from the windows desktop there are many solutions...
[13:03] <ubuntu-user123> brb
[13:04] <roshan> tatertots, please guide for this
[13:04] <lapion> roshan, skype has not created a newer version of it's software for linux recently
[13:04] <roshan> lapion, okay. there any other solution for this ?
[13:05] <tatertots> teamviewer, rdp, vnc, just to name a few
[13:05] <roshan> tatertots, okay
[13:07] <CropsUp> Someone know how Can I fix on tty1-6 unusable when I have been used vmware workstation vms?
[13:09] <tatertots> cropsup...in context of using virtual machines....is ubuntu the "host OS" or the "guest OS"? I understand tty 1-6 unusable but is this on the host or the guest?
[13:10] <CropsUp> tatertots, I'm sorry, this is my fault. Host-os has bugged
[13:10] <ubuntu-user123> Ok I inti LVM Ubuntu
[13:12] <tatertots> have they ever been usable or was there a hardware/software change that resulted in them being "unusable"?
[13:13] <ubuntu-user123> But I not see nothing in boot, there just brown screen. Need wait 2 seconds and then enter code. Also in reboot I see top brown panel
[13:13] <ubuntu-user123> But wiyhout icons
[13:17] <ubuntu-user123> Any help please
[13:18] <Powerless> is there a way for me to let my search bar on ubuntu 16.04 full screen?
[13:18] <vekz> You mean the Unity window, Powerless?
[13:19] <Powerless> vekz, yes, the one i use to search my apps and all
[13:19] <vekz> Alright. There should be a Maximize button upper left corner when you open the unity launcher
[13:19] <tatertots> sorry ubuntu-user123 i came in right in the middle of someone helping u ...i just remember seeing u guys blacklisting open nv driver so u could use the proprietary nvidia driver...
[13:20] <tatertots> ur helper will be back soon
[13:20] <Powerless> vekz, found it. thanks man
[13:20] <vekz> Np :)
[13:20] <ubuntu-user123> tatertots, yes i use it
[13:22] <binarydepth> I'm having trouble updating ClamAV virus database
[13:22] <ubuntu-user123> Ben64, ?
[13:24] <ubuntu-user123> What Ubuntu not have a LVM text boot?
[13:25] <eggggs> heya guys ,  im on  xubuntu 14.04 64 bit,  when i first start pithos  its plays immediately , but is blank for a couple of minutes.
[13:26] <ubuntu-user123> bye
[13:27] <tatertots> take care ubuntu-user123
[13:28] <damien> spotify is working again ppl
[13:29] <tatertots> I think i'll listen to some music today..all this music app talk reminds me i haven't enjoyed any tunes in a while
[13:30] <damien> what a good idea!
[13:33] <binarydepth> LOL do you get withdrawal symptoms from music ?
[13:33] <damien> in fact tatertots it's a great idea
[13:33] <binarydepth> I do
[13:33] <damien> why didn't anyone think of that before?
[13:34] <tatertots> I'm not sure i get withdraw symptoms, but i do put on music when i cook/clean and work on my car
[13:34] <eggggs> i have a constant ringing in my ears  so i have to have noise going 24/7
[13:35] <eggggs> pithos is pandora on  linux if you never used it
[13:35] <tatertots> I wish all the music services such as pandora/spotify had web browser based players so end users didn't need to install any application to enjoy their muisc
[13:35] <tatertots> music
[13:36] <eggggs> i prefer the app, personally
[13:36] <damien> tatertot: spotify does have a web player!
[13:37] <tatertots> you shouldn't have to muck around with software and it's config just to enjoy some tunes
[13:37] <binarydepth> eggggs I stopped that (ringing) with meditation
[13:37] <damien> their servers were down yesterday, which is why nobody could access spotify
[13:38] <binarydepth> tatertots Sorry to say this but for that you need DRM, I think
[13:38] <tatertots> ouch i bet a ton of spotify users were upset about the outage
[13:38] <damien> yes, including me
[13:38] <binarydepth> That can be a marketing tactic
[13:39] <eggggs> binarydepth, nice  guided or just self practice
[13:41] <tatertots> I think i have spotify and pandora on my phone...i rarely use it though
[13:41] <aristotleaquinas> What advice would anyone have, when you want to install another version of the same ruby package you want. Would there be any issues that I could have as a result?
[13:42] <damien> ok tatertots, how do you listen to music?
[13:42] <aristotleaquinas> Ruby 2.2.1 is the version I want, and the one I have is 2.1
[13:42] <tatertots> youtube
[13:42] <binarydepth> eggggs Self practice, in to phases : Changing state of mood and identifying cognition. That thing you do when you want to calm down and that one when you end up an argument and realize how to win some time after.
[13:42] <tatertots> youtube has something called youtube music now also
[13:43] <binarydepth> Yeah, Gooogle bought a lot of rights to music or something alike some time ago.
[13:43] <damien> somtimes it's nice to just hear the music without videos
[13:44] <binarydepth> damien mostly I would say
[13:44] <ubuntu-user123> hi
[13:44] <damien> yep
[13:44] <SeraphSephiroth> Anyone able to give me a hand with an issue I'm facing?
[13:44] <tatertots> hi ubuntu-user123
[13:44] <ubuntu-user123> stop
[13:44] <binarydepth> I see the videos in special occasions
[13:44] <ouroumov> !ask | SeraphSephiroth
[13:45] <BluesKaj> videos require a lot more attention ,  plain audio frees up your time to do other things and still enjoy the music
[13:45] <damien> i agree
[13:46] <binarydepth> BluesKaj try to give thy same attention as of with videos, ofc with a music you find interesting. XD
[13:46] <tatertots> i remember telling another chatter that it was 2am...it's now almost 9am
[13:46] <tatertots> wow
[13:46] <binarydepth> LOL
[13:47] <SeraphSephiroth> So I'm trying to partition a disk, and when I try to delete the partitions, I get an error saying invalid partition table on /dev/sdc. Error is: Wrong Signiture 0. (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[13:47] <SeraphSephiroth> Tried fdisk and it hangs
[13:48] <binarydepth> eggggs learning those two things at will can take years.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> binarydepth, well, i enjoyed music in analog formats long before video or even digital (cds) came along
[13:48] <ouroumov> SeraphSephiroth, under gparted start by creating a new partition table of type msdos
[13:49] <binarydepth> BluesKaj I started with cassettes
[13:49] <tatertots> blueskaj...you're dating ur self by admitting you enjoyed vinyl and analog music
[13:50] <tatertots> j/k blueskaj lol
[13:50] <vekz> Nobody knows what your issue is, Seraph.
[13:50] <vekz> oops. I was scrolled up. lol
[13:50] <SeraphSephiroth> lol
[13:50] <damien> cassettes broke and cd's got scratched, i liked the minidisk format as the disk was covered, by protective plastic.
[13:51] <tatertots> seraph was advised to use gparted to remove the partition...
[13:51] <eggggs> awe but who has  messed with an 8-track
[13:51] <tatertots> I still have a minidisc player
[13:52] <tatertots> shhh don't tell anyone
[13:52] <damien> i was not that keen on mp3 players as they would break alot
[13:53] <BluesKaj> tatertots, not concerned about dating myself, aamof I'm glad to have had the pleasure of good analog audio equipment .. I miss the "sound"
[13:53] <eggggs> and laser discs
[13:53] <tatertots> ah i remember laser discs
[13:54] <SeraphSephiroth> gparted keeps killing itself
[13:54] <abstradelic> which compiler is used to generate the binaries on 16.04?
[13:54] <eggggs> SeraphSephiroth , can you live cd into the  computer ?
[13:54] <damien> i think they should bring back minidisks they were cool
[13:55] <SeraphSephiroth> I can yes
[13:55] <tatertots> live cd or make a bootable ubuntu USB key and try to work with your hdd/ssd
[13:55] <SeraphSephiroth> I'm trying to format a USB drive
[13:55] <abstradelic> hi guys, can someone tell me which compiler is used to generate the binaries on 16.04?
[13:56] <tatertots> I keep a ubuntu usb on my key chain in case i need to trouble shoot something
[13:56] <tatertots> comes in handy
[13:56] <SeraphSephiroth> The disk is my usual Ubuntu key -.-
[13:56] <SeraphSephiroth> It's also 64gb so I kinda need it
[13:57] <eggggs> SeraphSephiroth, do you have the program called disks on you  system ?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> SeraphSephiroth, fat32?
[13:57] <ouroumov> abstradelic: cat /proc/version
[13:57] <SeraphSephiroth> Was ntfs
[13:58] <SeraphSephiroth> also gparted won't mount it
[13:58] <tatertots> is the disk drive healthy?
[13:58] <SeraphSephiroth> how can I check?
[13:58] <tatertots> or are you working with a drive that is in predictive failure?
[13:58] <SeraphSephiroth> It's a USB flash drive so no SMART
[13:58] <vekz> Have you used dd on it lately?
[13:58] <tatertots> use disk program in ubuntu...it will show the drives health status
[13:59] <eggggs> SeraphSephiroth , the gui way is a program called "disks"   and it will format
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> It will not
[13:59] <abstradelic> ouroumov: thank u. but can you show me the output because I dont use Ubuntu
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> I tried
[13:59] <damien> to get to disks go to launcher system then preferences then hardware
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> gparted is throwing up errors too
[13:59] <damien> there you will see disks
[13:59] <SeraphSephiroth> I'm in disks
[13:59] <damien> cool
[13:59] <ouroumov> abstradelic, http://termbin.com/h0qk
[13:59] <vekz> I had something like this happen to me a day ago after dd froze up in the middle of making a live image.
[14:00] <ubuntu-user123> How to diasble plymouth?
[14:00] <ubuntu-user123> Or remove?
[14:00] <eggggs> xubuntu doesnt install it by default
[14:00] <tatertots> so the linux utilities fail to work on your usb disk that's NTFS...have u tried using windows utilities?....i know that's a sin around here
[14:00] <tatertots> but the guy is in a tough spot
[14:00] <damien> you don't want to disable plymouth your os uses that binary
[14:00] <SeraphSephiroth> Windows just threw up an error and said to reboot
[14:01] <abstradelic> ouroumov: aH... oK. thank you
[14:01] <ubuntu-user123> How to disable it?
[14:01] <damien> what for
[14:01] <SeraphSephiroth> gparted says wrong signiture
[14:01] <ubuntu-user123> for disable brown screen
[14:01] <tatertots> and you've tried working with this NTFS usb on a known good computer or a different computer than the one ur using?...if so just trash the usb and replce it already
[14:01] <damien> you mean the background?
[14:02] <ubuntu-user123> LVM NVIDIA BUG
[14:02] <SeraphSephiroth> Well it's unformatted at the moment but it was NTFS
[14:02] <damien> that has nothing to do with plymouth
[14:02] <damien> as far as i am aware
[14:02] <SeraphSephiroth> I just need to erase the partition table and start over
[14:02] <vekz> have you tried zeroing it out with dd?
[14:03] <damien> you need to really be experienced to use the partitioner on a working system
[14:03] <ubuntu-user123> remove first and last mb
[14:03] <damien> if things are working just leave it
[14:04] <u9d8nd839dn398> What is this? I clicked some icon on my screen and this opened...
[14:04] <ubuntu-user123> What about Plymouth?
[14:04] <tatertots> u9d8 this is the matrix
[14:04] <ubuntu-user123> I want text boot
[14:04] <SeraphSephiroth> hmmm looks like I might have it
[14:04] <damien> Plymouth is a binary code used to work your os
[14:05] <mae_tae> hello guyz, my samba apps no longer work, i really wonder i never change anything, it's been a long time that works very fine but suddenly it stops
[14:05] <ubuntu-user123> damien, can I remove it?
[14:05] <mae_tae> nmbd & smbd is not running, im clueless on what to do pls help me
[14:05] <akik> ubuntu-user123: remove "quiet splash" from /etc/default/grub and then run "sudo update-grub"
[14:06] <tatertots> mae tae you can try manually starting those two daemons
[14:06] <damien> no don't remove it, if you do you may find your os not working
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> I removed in cfg
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> nosplash also
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> Its Ubuntu bug maybe
[14:06] <ubuntu-user123> Dude from nvidia said it
[14:06] <damien> try updating your os for bugs or do a system upgrade
[14:07] <ubuntu-user123> n owork
[14:07] <ubuntu-user123> nomodeset nowork
[14:07] <ThePhoenix47`> Strange... I ghosted someone who took my nick 5 minutes or so ago.
[14:07] <ubuntu-user123> nothing no work
[14:07] <tatertots> mae tae do those two daemons start and run when you start them manually?
[14:07] <ThePhoenix47`> Although it is a mystery why they took it
 then as I say before, ask ubuntu how to get a command line prompt for the encryption passpharse. [16:49] <Hussam> should be something in the initramfs.
[14:08] <damien> just do a released upgrade to fix most common errors
[14:08] <JunkHunk> hello after upgrading to 14.04.5 LTS and after login the desktop shows nothing but the mouse cursor...ctrl+alt+t brings up terminal and right clicking shows a menu with many options terminal internet file manager...when I click on them the system shows the login screen again and after typing password again the empty desktop and a message telling me to report a program problem detected
 this is a ubuntu bug really.
[14:08] <damien> or a software update too
[14:08] <JunkHunk> lapion?
[14:08] <ubuntu-user123> lapion, ?
[14:08] <SeraphSephiroth> Yeah it working now
[14:08] <SeraphSephiroth> Thanks for all your help guys :)
[14:09] <damien> You're welcome
[14:09] <JunkHunk> I am using lubuntu flavour
[14:09] <ubuntu-user123> tell them you need some initramfs function to unlock encrypted root. [16:52] <Hussam> take care of this part first and also check if plymouth can be excluded from initramfs image.
[14:10] <ubuntu-user123> Hey?
[14:10] <ubuntu-user123> So we have bug in Ubuntu
[14:11] <damien> if nvidia is the problem then you will have to wait for a bugfix
[14:12] <ubuntu-user123> damien, need bug report for first
[14:12] <damien> yes
[14:12] <ubuntu-user123> damien, idk how
[14:13] <damien> ok have you got your graphics software installed for your graphics card?
[14:13] <damien> but the software is not working right
[14:13] <ubuntu-user123> damien, yes
[14:13] <ubuntu-user123> damien, stop
[14:14] <ubuntu-user123> damien, no driver
[14:14] <ubuntu-user123> damien, bug in Ubuntu
[14:14] <damien> ok first try to update your os then download the graphics driver for your computer again
[14:15] <tatertots> hmm i thought u had sucessfully install the nvidia proprietary drivers already ubuntu-user
[14:15] <ubuntu-user123> damien, you to me?
[14:15] <tatertots> i noticed someone helping u blacklist the open nv driver earlier ...like wayyy earlier
[14:15] <damien> make sure you remove the nvidia driver first, don't worry you will still see the display
[14:15] <ubuntu-user123> ubuntusucks
[14:16] <tatertots> are you using a supported GPU?
[14:16] <tatertots> supported by the proprietary nvidia linux driver
[14:17] <damien> then after your done updating your os, then install the nvidia driver again
[14:18] <damien> you might need to go to synaptic package manager and install some drivers for ubuntu to make the nvidia drivers work with linux ubuntu
[14:18] <damien> i had to do this with my machine and it worked
[14:19] <tatertots> usually ubuntu handles amd/nvidia proprietary driver installation fairly effortlessly
[14:19] <tatertots> can even be done thru the gui
[14:20] <virtuosoj> When trying to add official PCSX2 PPA and install, I get this error in terminal upon apt update:
[14:20] <virtuosoj> "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gregory-hainaut/pcsx2.official.ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 508A982D7A617FF4
[14:20] <virtuosoj> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/gregory-hainaut/pcsx2.official.ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed.
[14:20] <virtuosoj> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[14:20] <virtuosoj> "
[14:20] <yray> hi fellas. How can I tell ubuntu to use which mirror or repository during installation? Cause ubuntu by default chooses a server on its own during installation. and I want to choose a different server during installation.
[14:20] <ptnecniv> hi, i have a system running 14.04 with kernel 3.19 (with real time linux patch). I want to upgrade to the 4.4 kernel. Will I still be able to boot my old kernel if needed after installing 4.4 from the repo?
[14:20] <damien> yeah but with updates it can cause a problem if you have outdated software
[14:21] <yray> folks?
[14:21] <tatertots> i love dkms
[14:21] <virtuosoj> Did the PCSX2 repo maintainer screw up? Should I contact him or somehow try to install anyway?
[14:23] <lyze> virtuosoj, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubnuntu.com -recv-keys 508A982D7A617FF4
[14:25] <CheeDinski> Hi all, trying get a bluetooth usb adapter working...total noob, please go easy.
[14:26] <CheeDinski> I followed some instructions online, grabbed an hcd file from dropbox
[14:26] <CheeDinski> copied it to /lib/firmware/brcm/
[14:26] <virtuosoj> lyze, tyty
[14:26] <tatertots> Cheedinski is it detected by ur system?.....lsusb...dmesg
[14:27] <tatertots> what is the chipset of this usb bt dongle u have?
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.748090] usb 2-5: new full-speed USB device number 11 using ohci-pci
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972600] usb 2-5: New USB device found, idVendor=19ff, idProduct=0239
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972608] usb 2-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972612] usb 2-5: Product: BCM20702A0
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972615] usb 2-5: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
[14:27] <CheeDinski> [ 2035.972618] usb 2-5: SerialNumber: 98588A06DF24
[14:27] <wuseman> Ey!
[14:28] <wuseman> Use pastebin man you crashing my beep system here
[14:30] <virtuosoj> lyze, actually that did not work :(
[14:30] <lyze> !pastebin | CheeDinski
[14:30] <lyze> virtuosoj, argh ... then sorry, can't help you
[14:30] <wuseman> CheeDinski: do 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'  and then unplug the device and then replug the device
[14:30] <tatertots> anything in the logs about the status of your usb bt dongle?
[14:30] <wuseman> do you get any answer CheeDinski ?
[14:31] <yray> guys was my question unclear?
[14:31] <virgoretti6> "Wine depends on a package, but that package is not going to be installed." Why???
[14:31] <virtuosoj> lyze, if on the launchpad page he provides a key, can I replace the one you gave me with the one he put?
[14:31] <wuseman> tail -f is your best friend when troubleshoots such things
[14:31] <lyze> virtuosoj, yeah you can try that one c:
[14:31] <tatertots> wuseman is on the right track i'll back off and let him assist with ur usb bt dongle issue
[14:31] <CheeDinski> I didn't get an answer yet
[14:31] <tatertots> did u check the logs
[14:31] <wuseman> I meant from the syslog?
[14:31] <CheeDinski> Looks like I blew up irc with too many lines posted
[14:32] <CheeDinski> One sec
[14:32] <blut> !pastebinit
[14:32] <yray> !course
[14:32] <tatertots> check logs...make sure u have any firmware that might be needed if applicable
[14:34] <CheeDinski> So it doesn't look like anything happened when i replugged?
[14:34] <CheeDinski> Prompt didn't return
[14:35] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/RTQfuvkF
[14:35] <CheeDinski> There is the sys log
[14:36] <virgoretti6> how can I stop "holding broken packages"?
[14:37] <wuseman> CheeDinski: then you didnt found the device.
[14:37] <wuseman> Try another USB port.
[14:37] <N3sh108> the easy way (doesnt always work) is to run dpkg -reconfigure, the other is to go through the package file and remove them
[14:38] <N3sh108> virgoretti6
[14:38] <tatertots> was just thinking the same thing wuseman :P ....try a known good usb port on system and check logs again
[14:38] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/kyppDeV4
[14:39] <virgoretti6> N3sh108 I don't even know what broken packeges I'm holding...
[14:39] <tatertots> there should be more logs than that Cheedinski....we know it's displayed in the output of lsusb
[14:39] <capum321> i am building a package http://www.monodevelop.com/developers/building-monodevelop/#linux  -> configure http://dpaste.com/2BMBMQN  -> make http://dpaste.com/0ZST5MK what is wrong in this output?
[14:39] <tatertots> let's see your syslog output
[14:39] <CheeDinski> You want the whole thing?
[14:39] <tatertots> why not
[14:40] <virgoretti6> "dpkg: error: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)"
[14:40] <tatertots> I've had 3 cups of coffee
[14:40] <virgoretti6> N3sh108
[14:42] <wuseman> if syslog wont find the usb when its plugged in how you can say its there? Cause the modules are loaded its not necassary the device working properly or the input port
[14:42] <capum321> brb
[14:42] <ouroumov> In a LAN, how to configure a machine so that its hostname won't leak? (Not visible through iftop wlan0 by other computers)
[14:44] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/EnAJ3x13  The entire morning's worth...sorry it's a lot to sort through
[14:44] <wuseman> hey ouroumov
[14:44] <wuseman> you need change the command to readonly
[14:45] <wuseman> you can either make a nice script for that or something like, sec i will make the script for ya
[14:45] <CheeDinski> Thanks for the help, BTW, I know how painful it is to help someone who doesn't even know enough to follow your help correctly
[14:45] <wuseman> readonly -f /bin/command_you_wanna_disable and response with an echo message if you wanna say "Sorry bro this aint allowed for ya "
[14:46] <wuseman> CheeDinski: not painful at all, everyone have been there.
[14:46] <DArqueBishop> ouroumov: this may very well be the wrong answer (and others will say if it is), but if it's that important that said information be hidden and it's only in regards to wireless clients, why not just isolate the wireless clients?
[14:46] <ouroumov> wuseman, what command? I'm not sure you've been answering my question here :x
[14:46] <wuseman> you wanna disable a command for a specifik user,  ya?
[14:47] <wuseman> Then you need to change the flags for the command and mostly default commands under /bin folder
[14:47] <yray> can someone please help me a little bit maybe?
[14:47] <DArqueBishop> wuseman: no, he wants to make it where clients on a LAN can't get information about other clients via the network (if I understand him correctly).
[14:48] <wuseman> Aha, then i missunderstood
[14:48] <wuseman> Sorry
[14:48] <ouroumov> DArqueBishop, I'm on a big LAN (free wifi access point that tracks users through their MAC addresses), when I run iftop <wifi interface> I can see the hostnames of every other machines connected on the net. Some of those don't show hostnames though, only IP addresses. I want to configure my machine to do that
[14:48] <wuseman> yray: whats up?
[14:48] <virgoretti6> whats a shared library file?
[14:48] <wuseman> ouroumov: do you got root access?
[14:49] <yray> wuseman: thanks man I am trying to prevent ubuntu during installation to choose a server automatically. I want to tell ubuntu during installation phase, to use a specific server
[14:49] <ouroumov> wuseman, I'm not admin of the LAN net. I'm just the admin of my own machine on the LAN.
[14:49] <yray> like the Main server only
[14:49] <JunkHunk> hello ater upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 the admin login takes me to an empty desktop with reporting program problem warnings I can ctrl+Alt+t and open a terminal and everything looks okay but the desktop...when I login with a guest account I get a pid error but the desktop is okay...which could be the easiest solution here? I am using lubuntu and non-pae so I cannot reinstall the system
[14:50] <yray> but I don't really know how
[14:50] <wuseman> What kind of server is tihs?
[14:50] <wuseman> this*
[14:50] <UbuntuUser2016> Good morning. I was wondering if it's possible to symlink a non root user file to crontab for that user... I've read in quote a few places that anything under /etc/cron* must be owned by root
[14:50] <yray> wuseman : mine?
[14:50] <wuseman> Sorry i cant help you with that, i cant understand the question properly :/ Where in installation do you choose a server?
[14:52] <yray> wuseman : no where, that is the point. you see, when you give the installation access to internet, Ubuntu tries to get updates for the installation, but instead of using the main server it chooses a server automatically on its own
[14:52] <yray> I want to stop this
[14:52] <nacc> yray: you'd pass it in a command-line option to the installer (preseed syntax), probably
[14:52] <binarydepth> tatertots too late I will mug you at no notice for that mini disc
[14:53] <yray> nacc : can you give me more info on that maybe?
[14:53] <tatertots> lol
[14:53] <wuseman> Aha, you wanna change the mirrorselect
[14:53] <yray> yes
[14:53] <binarydepth> damien, isn't mini disc part of public domain already ?
[14:53] <wuseman> 'sed -i 's%us.archive.ubuntu.com%mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntuarchive/%' /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal
[14:54] <wuseman> sudo also
[14:54] <yray> during installation?
[14:54] <nacc> yray: one sec
[14:54] <binarydepth> brb
[14:54] <yray> nacc: ok, thanks man
[14:55] <wuseman> hum, yes? use "try ubuntu" then open a command type that and then make the installation instead of install ubuntu directly
[14:55] <wuseman> easiest solution for you
[14:56] <nacc> yray: i think you should be able to pass (to the installer) "mirror/http/hostname=<domain>". If you also need to change the path, then you'd also pass "mirror/http/directory=<path>".
[14:56] <wuseman> When you try ubuntu you can choose "install ubuntu" from the desktop. I dunno how the gui installation works but thats gonna work
[14:56] <ptnecniv> hi, i get the following error when i try to sudo: sudo: unable to resolve host VincentNUC
[14:57] <wuseman> ouroumov: i have no idea to be honest, but you can fake your mac adress but i doubt you wanna do that since i guess the wifi connection is binded over the wlan so you wont get access otherwhise
[14:57] <ptnecniv> my /etc/hosts file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/cPGGkTHr
[14:58] <yray> nacc: what about "sed -i 's%us.archive.ubuntu.com%mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntuarchive/%' /etc/apt/sources.list" that wuseman suggested?
[14:58] <ptnecniv> nvm, i see the typo
[14:59] <wuseman> ptnecniv: ;)
[14:59] <nacc> yray: well, it depends on how you install if that's an option
[15:00] <nacc> yray: that will obviously affect the running system, but if you're in the installer already, you'd need to drop to a shell to run that command; or as wuseman said, you might be able to do it by modifying the live system and then installing from that.
[15:00] <yray> What do you mean?
[15:00] <yray> I mean what do you mean it will effect the runing system?
[15:01] <wuseman> ya nacc. yray you can jump the the terminal with alt+ctrl f1 and jump back to the desktop with f7 i belive
[15:01] <wuseman> to the*
[15:01] <JunkHunk> how to reinstall only desktop in lubuntu?
[15:02] <yray> yes, but the problem is if you are in the live session, ctrl + alt + f1 will require you to insert password for root
[15:02] <yray> or at least login using soome username
[15:02] <wuseman> JunkHunk: remove the lubuntu-desktop and jump out x and then just type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.
[15:02] <TheSilentLink> hello I have installed ubuntu mate but I can't change the default terminal
[15:02] <TheSilentLink> anyonehelp?
[15:03] <JunkHunk> wuseman and how do I remove the lubuntu desktop?
[15:03] <wuseman> sudo -s maybe works
[15:03] <wuseman> yray: sudo -s maybe works?
[15:03] <DArqueBishop> ouroumov__: to be honest, I thought I was looking in #openwrt and not #ubuntu when I answered. :-)
[15:03] <nacc> yray: from the live session or the installer?
[15:03] <nacc> yray: from the live session, just open a terminal (no need to drop to tty1)
[15:03] <wuseman> sudo apt-get purge lxde is the meta-package
[15:03] <wuseman> JunkHunk: ^
[15:03] <yray> nacc: the live session
[15:04] <wuseman> but try lubuntu-desktop instead
[15:04] <JunkHunk> wuseman,  removing desktop will delete files and folders?
[15:05] <wuseman> No, but do not forget to make a backup allways if you are afraid to loose data. But no it wont.
[15:06] <JunkHunk> wuseman,  would these commands do the trick for removing desktop? http://askubuntu.com/questions/453841/how-to-remove-lubuntu-desktop-from-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[15:07] <wuseman> JunkHunk: seems fine yes but i never using --autoremove
[15:09] <virgoretti6> can anyone here help me install wine? I'm getting really weird errors when I try to install it...
[15:10] <yray> wuseman : I am going to use "sed -i 's%us.archive.ubuntu.com%mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntuarchive/%' /etc/apt/sources.list" but I am kind of sure that ubuntu is going to use its own automatically found server anyways
[15:11] <wuseman> yray: you can set your own mirrorselect aswell
[15:11] <wuseman> I have no clue wich server you wanna use
[15:11] <capum321> virgoretti6: run wineconfig on terminal
[15:11] <yray> wuseman : you mean in the live session?
[15:11] <yray> I can choose the mirrors?
[15:12] <bildz> anyone seen this error before:  AH01630: client denied by server configuration:
[15:12] <yray> Cause I have done it before, but during installation ubuntu uses its own server select, regardless of my choise
[15:12] <virgoretti6> capum321 command not found
[15:12] <wuseman> Of course you can choose, i belive ubuntu choose the nearest server already
[15:12] <TheSilentLink> hello I am using ubuntu-mate and I changed the default terminal app but it is not changing when I use ctrl+alt+t. Anyone know why?
[15:13] <capum321> virgoretti6: wine --version
[15:13] <yray> ok going to try it tomorrow, thanks anyhows guys
[15:13] <wuseman> Hi TheSilentLink 'gconftool --type string --set /desktop/gnome/applications/terminal/exec <YOUR-TERMINAL>'
[15:13] <wuseman> and it will change the default program for termianl
[15:13] <wuseman> terminal
[15:14] <wuseman> if its gnome i forgot what mate using
[15:14] <virgoretti6> capum321, No command 'wine' found
[15:14] <TheSilentLink> I typed gconftool --type string --set /desktop/gnome/applications/terminal/exec terminator and it is still opening the mate one
[15:15] <CheeDinski> tatertots: You still around?  Can I PM?
[15:15] <wuseman> mate is using Gnome as desktop WM TheSilentLink ?
[15:15] <TheSilentLink> wuseman:well I don't know lol
[15:16] <capum321> virgoretti6: have you follow this page? https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[15:16] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: aha, try this anyhow: sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[15:17] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: the current choice is terminator...
[15:18] <zerowaitstate> I'm having a problem with udev. I have to set mode 0666 and assign the group "plugdev" to an android device when it connects. I have the rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ , but it's not taking effect. udev still assigns 664, group "root" to the device
[15:18] <tatertots> I'm here CheeDinski
[15:18] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17749635/
[15:18] <zerowaitstate> relevant line in lsusb is: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0c2e:0ba3 Metrologic Instruments
[15:18] <capum321> what am i missing here? is this outputs an error? dpaste.com/0ZST5MK
[15:19] <Village> Guys, how i can update TSL to 1.6.7 at Ubuntu 14.04
[15:19] <Village> ?
[15:19] <zerowaitstate> rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules is: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="02ce", MODE="0666", GROUP="plugdev"
[15:19] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: thats fine, its still not working?
[15:19] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Would you mind jumping back into the Bluetooth fight?
[15:19] <wuseman> sudo apt-get install terminator && sudo apt-get remove gnome-terminal && sudo ln /usr/bin/terminator /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[15:19] <ducasse> zerowaitstate: you need to reboot or reload the udev rules with udevadm.
[15:19] <wuseman> try that
[15:20] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: nope it is still loading the mate one
[15:20] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  wuseman has his hands full solving the planet's Ubuntu problems :)
[15:20] <tatertots> sure
[15:20] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: wait, let me check mate wm manager
[15:20] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: ok thanks for helping
[15:21] <tatertots> i have a question about ur bt dongle issue....had you installed "bluez"at any point?
[15:21] <CheeDinski> tatertots: Yes, I did install bluez
[15:22] <CheeDinski> I can't say that I did it correctly, but an attempt was made
[15:22] <tatertots> is the btusb module listed when u look for it in the output of lsmod
[15:23] <wuseman> No idea TheSilentLink tbh if you have fixed so it says so, maybe you can play with your .bashrc file
[15:23] <Village> Guys, how i can update TSL Protocol to 1.6.7 at Ubuntu 14.04
[15:23] <Village> ?
[15:23] <nacc> Village: TSL Protocol?
[15:23] <wuseman> TLS ?
[15:23] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Have a look, I don't want to provide the wrong info  http://pastebin.com/b5jr52QE
[15:24] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: o ok is the file in the home directory?
[15:24] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: yes its hidden in your homefolders. ~/.bashrc
[15:25] <Village> nacc, i have 1.2 <somsip> Village: oh - you want to know what version of the protocol. Try "openssl ciphers -v | grep TLS"
[15:25] <Village> TLS* verry sorry, my mistype:/
[15:25] <virgoretti6> capum321 I just ran all of the commands on the page you sent me a link to.
[15:25] <izmo> Hey , im new here. How to install steam?
[15:25] <Village> wuseman, TLS yes
[15:26] <nacc> Village: i think you might be confusing the protocol version with a pacakge version
[15:26] <izmo> do i use just you apt-get install ?
[15:26] <wuseman> CheeDinski: your device isnt recognized by the syslog, have you tried what i said earlier? 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and replug the device to another port?
[15:27] <nacc> Village: the TLS that has 1.6.7 (in a quick google) is the "OpenSSL Tcl Extension"
[15:27] <wuseman> Keep the syslog up and running when you unplug it the syslog should give you an answer and when you replug the device, give me the output on pastebin
[15:27] <Village> Hm, let me try explaine problem - http://pastebin.com/hU02Gt6u
[15:27] <TheSilentLink> wuseman: it is set as the default one it is just the shortcut doesn't work
[15:27] <Village> I need TLS 1.6.7
[15:28] <nacc> Village: no, you need 1.6.7 of the TLS Extension.
[15:28] <Village> nacc, so how i can update version?
[15:28] <Village> nacc, ok, how i can update?
[15:28] <CheeDinski> wuseman: I'll try again
[15:29] <nacc> Village: you can't, officially, in 14.04
[15:29] <wuseman> TheSilentLink: what about 'mate-terminal' in console and then change it?
[15:29] <nacc> Village: 1.6.7 is only available for >16.04
[15:29] <nacc> *>=
[15:29] <zerowaitstate> i tried rebooting and the udev rule still isn't firing
[15:29] <Village> I need new ubuntu version?
[15:29] <tatertots> out of curiosity what does hcitool dev spit out
[15:29] <tatertots> ?
[15:29] <nacc> Village: or build it yourself
[15:29] <wuseman> either you should be able to change that in System Tools -->Preferences-->System Settings-->keyboard-->shortcut  TheSilentLink
[15:29] <Village> Understand, Thanks, nacc
[15:30] <Village> nacc, one more question, can i update to ubuntu 16.04 by shell?
[15:30] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | Village
[15:30] <wuseman> dist-upgrade Village
[15:30] <nacc> Village: you can, technically, but i'd not recommend it until 16.04.1
[15:30] <wuseman> :P
[15:30] <tatertots> does it show anything when u run "hcitool dev"
[15:31] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  I must be doing something wrong, this is all I see when I follow your instructions http://pastebin.com/gTy2MgZL
[15:31] <Village> nacc, understand, thanks,pleasure guys get the answers, heartly thanks,
[15:31] <CheeDinski> tatertots: no, nothing is listed there
[15:32] <tatertots> ok
[15:32] <Village> nacc, wuseman, thanks
[15:32] <wuseman> CheeDinski: why wrong? keep this log up and running, unplug the device connected to the usb, is it quiet in the log or do it spit out text?
[15:32] <archer121> Hi! I don't want this to be a xy problem, so what I am trying to achive is to install cuda on my laptop. My laptop comes with a NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce 920M] graphics card. Whatever I try to do, I end up with a unbootable system. Can anyone help me with this?
[15:33] <archer121> Can I install nvidia-367 on ubuntu 14.04?
[15:33] <wuseman> Ahh you getting an answer CheeDinski
[15:33] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  the syslog is updated everytime I unplug and replug, if that's what you mean
[15:33] <wuseman> BCM20702A0 is your device?
[15:34] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  I think so...that's what the syslog is spitting out
[15:35] <archer121> to install nvidia-367 on ubuntu 14.04, I added the PPA "ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa", but I can't seem to install it. What did I do wrong?
[15:35] <wuseman> CheeDinski: just wanted to be sure the device is running, so now what is the problem with the device CheeDinski ?
[15:36] <CheeDinski> wuseman: well none of the commands that should show the device seem to be working, for example, tatertots'
[15:36] <wuseman> have you loaded the correct modules(DRIVERS) for the device?
[15:36] <CheeDinski> No device shows in the bluetooth hardware settings
[15:36] <EricBB> Hey guys, I've got a hard drive with 10.04 that I put into a different laptop than the one I installed ubuntu on, and now can't get wireless or lan connections, even though they are enabled. How do I update this thing/fix modules to get an internet connection running on it without whiping it and losing my data?
[15:36] <soee> how snaps are upated after installing ?
[15:37] <CheeDinski> wuseman:  I think I tried, but Im linux stupid, so maybe now
[15:37] <CheeDinski> not*
[15:37] <Village> wuseman, when i updeted by terminal it's compactible with apache , php,, ftpd?
[15:38] <tatertots> I don't think he has the correct modules ...i also don't think he has the firmware
[15:38] <hiniya> ok so every have a day where all hell breaks loose and you cant figure out why. Well that is my day today
[15:38] <ducasse> zerowaitstate: look carefully at the rule, especially the vendor id...
[15:38] <nacc> Village: 16.04 has moved php5 -> php7 (and no php5 support)
[15:39] <Village> it's automatycally moving?
[15:39] <wuseman> CheeDinski: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2262459&p=13215201#post13215201
[15:39] <Village> nacc, i need upgrade it after update?
[15:39] <Village> *
[15:39] <CheeDinski> ok, here is what I did in the meantime  http://pastebin.com/jZDwCaNF  when I tried to install
[15:40] <nacc> Village: you should ensure the 'php' package is installed after you are done upgrading
[15:40] <zerowaitstate> ducasse: yeah, I just saw that
[15:40] <zerowaitstate> ducasse: that was the problem
[15:40] <nacc> Village: and your code is php7 compatible :)
[15:40] <BluesKaj> archer121, are you doing, sudo apt install nvidia-367 ?
[15:41] <ducasse> zerowaitstate: 'sudo udevadm control --reload'
[15:41] <BluesKaj> the cuda cores should install by default, archer121
[15:41] <Village> i have installed apache2, php, vsftpd,,,, so i need now DS run to rescue mode before run upgrade command at terminal?
[15:42] <hiniya> ok so i booted up last night and got to the login page and logged it..... i get the blue ubuntu screen and mouse only. SO I checked my packages and had a dependency issue and gedit would not install
[15:42] <hiniya> so i have everything else fixed but i can not get libpeas-1.0-0-python3loader to work
[15:42] <hiniya> at least with the dependancies
[15:43] <hiniya> but I barely have a gui gnome wont work using fail safe and cant get apt-get to fix anything
[15:43] <hiniya> http://pastebin.com/JTLZVih4
[15:44] <hiniya> any suggestions or idea's?
[15:44] <archer121> BluesKaj: yes, but that would lead to my system getting unbootable.
[15:45] <mjayk> does anyknow know how to detatch a process from the terminal it was launched in
[15:46] <BluesKaj> archer121, what would ?  You asked how to install the 367 driver from the ppa, what I posted is the method to use.
[15:46] <tatertots> what's the contents of your "/lib/firmware"
[15:46] <tatertots> ?
[15:46] <tatertots> @ CheeDinski
[15:47] <tatertots> i'd be interested in seeing your "/lib/firmware"
[15:48] <archer121> BluesKaj: I am sorry, but I did not understand anything. What method?
[15:48] <CheeDinski> tatertots: How would I find that?
[15:48] <tatertots> "ls /lib/firmware"
[15:48] <tatertots> let's see what all firmware you've got going
[15:48] <BluesKaj> archer121, in the terminal, sudo apt install nvidia-367
[15:49] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/q27xEHCE
[15:49] <hiniya> anyone?
[15:49] <archer121> BluesKaj: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-367'
[15:50] <tatertots> ok
[15:51] <tatertots> one more thing
[15:51] <tatertots> let's go in further
[15:51] <CheeDinski> I couldn't get anywhere with wuseman's link suggestion, the file will not extract
[15:51] <tatertots> "ls /lib/firmware/brcm"
[15:51] <BluesKaj> archer121, after adding the ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa did you do sudo apt update ?
[15:51] <tatertots> brcm is where broadcom firmware would be living
[15:52] <tatertots> let's take a look see
[15:52] <CheeDinski> http://pastebin.com/xJYHMCAa
[15:53] <CheeDinski> Nevermend on the extraction issue...I'm an idiot
[15:54] <tatertots> ok
[15:55] <CheeDinski> I still can't get the commands to work, so still no help there...
[15:55] <tatertots> is ur kernel newer or older than 3.16? ......"uname -a"
[15:55] <archer121> BluesKaj: Yes
[15:55] <sirano> hi
[15:56] <hiniya> Linux Darkness 4.4.0-27-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 21 17:44:30 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:56] <CheeDinski> Older....Linux ubuntu-OptiPlex-740-Enhanced 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[15:56] <hiniya> i think it was because I tried to use katoolin
[15:56] <hiniya> because grub thinks I am running kali
[15:57] <tatertots> ok
[15:59] <afedyashov> :q
[15:59] <tatertots> let's get u some firmware for your broadcom bt dongle
[15:59] <tatertots> wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/plugable/bin/fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd
[15:59] <tatertots> sudo cp fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd /lib/firmware
[15:59] <hiniya> lu lu lu
[15:59] <CheeDinski> wget didnt work
[16:00] <CheeDinski> bash: https://s3.amazonaws.com/plugable/bin/fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd: No such file or directory
[16:00] <tatertots> what error?
[16:00] <tatertots> ok standby
[16:00] <CheeDinski> sure
[16:01] <W00dP3ck3r> tatertots, maybe that site works based on session based cookies? How about using Firefox's DownThemAll plugin?
[16:01] <W00dP3ck3r> just a thought...
[16:02] <BluesKaj> archer121, check your package manager software sources to make sure the ppa is actually there and enabled
[16:03] <tatertots> ok this works
[16:03] <tatertots> http://dchua.com/files/fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd
[16:04] <tatertots> make sure that makes it's way into "/lib/firmware"
[16:04] <tatertots> reseat ur dongle and let me know
[16:07] <tatertots> CheeDinski were u able to get the fw-0a5c_21e8.hcd into /lib/firmware ?
[16:08] <CheeDinski> tatertots: One sec...everything I do on this OS takes 10 times would it would elsewhere...the noobs remorse lol
[16:08] <tatertots> lol no worries
[16:09] <CheeDinski> Yes, it's there, now a replug?
[16:09] <hiniya> sorry just a bit of panic from this. I can recover my files but I had a project  i was working on
[16:09] <tatertots> yes now re plug the bt dongle
[16:10] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Doesn't seem to have done anything, still nothing listed for "hcitool dev"
[16:11] <tatertots> we still have modules to fix
[16:11] <CheeDinski> Rgr
[16:11] <tatertots> you have the proper firmware now
[16:12] <CheeDinski> Well then I'm going on break...first step forward lol!
[16:12] <tatertots> ok
[16:12] <tatertots> lol :P
[16:12] <CheeDinski> Kidding...
[16:12] <CheeDinski> Still here
[16:13] <tatertots> ok lmao
[16:27] <Robert__> is the website http://www.ubuntu.com/ being blocked form the united states or something ?
[16:27] <CheeDinski> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'btusb': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[16:27] <tatertots> let's see that dmesg
[16:27] <DArqueBishop> Robert__: it's working for me.
[16:28] <k1l> Robert__: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[16:28] <k1l> Robert__: could be an issue on your netowrk or ISP
[16:28] <Robert__> well when I tried to log on I got a server error, hten when I tried to use a proxy in the united states same thing but when I used a proxy in another country it worked
[16:29] <k1l> Robert__: log on where?
[16:29] <DArqueBishop> Robert__: I've just tried from three different US ISPs. All three worked.
[16:29] <Robert__> hten==when
[16:29] <DArqueBishop> It's probably your proxy.
[16:29] <Robert__>  well I was not using a proxy at first
[16:29] <CheeDinski> tatertots:  Any trick to getting you the important info, or just try and copy the whole thing?
[16:29] <Robert__> will try again
[16:29] <tatertots> yep standby
[16:30] <hiniya> is there anyone who would be willing to help me with an issue?
[16:31] <Robert__> Now it is working
[16:31] <tatertots> yep
[16:31] <tatertots> we'll pipe the output to "grep"
[16:31] <tatertots> and search for "symbol"
[16:32] <Robert__> Ok I have another question, iam thinking about setting up a home webserver someday, How do you hide your website behind a proxy  server ?
[16:32] <tatertots> | grep -i symbol
[16:32] <CheeDinski> That didn't do anything for me
[16:32] <beantaxi> Anyone else just started getting 404s, on apt-get update for trusty?
[16:32] <tatertots> ok
[16:33] <tatertots> standby
[16:33] <CheeDinski> dmesg | grep -i usb maybe?
[16:33] <tatertots> yes
[16:34] <tatertots> try grep symbol w/o the "-i"
[16:34] <Robert__> to busy here latter...
[16:34] <tatertots> usb might bring back too much info
[16:34] <tatertots> let's grep for symbol
[16:34] <CheeDinski> w/o the i and usb or symbol?
[16:35] <tatertots> dmesg | grep symbol
[16:35] <CheeDinski> yeah, nothing happens again
[16:36] <tatertots> if that does't show any info...try modprobe -r bluetooth
[16:36] <CheeDinski> modprobe: FATAL: Module bluetooth is in use.
[16:36] <tatertots> ah ha
[16:37] <tatertots> it needs to use btusb
[16:37] <tatertots> reseat dongle
[16:38] <CheeDinski> ok
[16:38] <tatertots> after reseat of dongle is it still using bluetooth according to the output of lsmod
[16:39] <CheeDinski> looks like it...bluetooth             342263  10 bnep,rfcomm
[16:40] <Yuken> I'd like to set up an absolute basic openbox session on Ubuntu Server 16.04. How would I go about doing this?
[16:40] <tatertots> did u blacklist "btusb" previously possibly when messing with bluez
[16:40] <tatertots> ?
[16:41] <CheeDinski> i wouldn't know how if i did, so Im going to say no
[16:41] <izmo> Hi , my linux partition has become full
[16:41] <CheeDinski> one sec, ill show you the steps i took related to bluez
[16:41] <izmo> how do i use gparted to resize it?
[16:42] <CheeDinski> sudo apt-get install bluez python-gobject python-dbus
[16:42] <CheeDinski> that's it
[16:42] <hiniya> ok now that I have some more time I can stay here. Is there anyone who is willing to help me with an issue
[16:42] <tatertots> ok
[16:42] <tatertots> standb y
[16:42] <thyri> Hi all!
[16:43] <CheeDinski> sure, thanks for your patience, i already want to punch myself in the face...
[16:43] <tatertots> can you reboot?
[16:43] <CheeDinski> I can
[16:43] <thyri> I need to know where to get gstreamer-plugins-base, gstreamer-plugins-ugly and libuuid1...  Anyone have any idea?
[16:43] <nacc> hiniya: ask and see.
[16:43] <CheeDinski> brb
[16:43] <tatertots> reboot but remove dongle
[16:43] <CheeDinski> and keep it out?
[16:43] <tatertots> keep it out yes
[16:43] <nacc> thyri: aren't those already packaged for ubuntu?
[16:44] <izmo> How do i get more space for a created partition??
[16:44] <thyri> nacc I have no idea.
[16:44] <thyri> I"m brand new to Ubuntu
[16:44] <nacc> thyri: use software manager or whatever and search for them
[16:45] <thyri> Uh, software manager?
[16:45] <thyri> Where do I find that?
[16:45] <hiniya> I turned off my computer last night and brought it home from work. When I booted up it went to login screen for the gui . I logged in and it was just the ubuntu screen and my mouse. I thought something might be wrong so I checked my apt-get and made sure everything was up to day. I kept getting this error. http://pastebin.com/JTLZVih4 . As of this time I was playing with katoolin and i am worried something went horribly wrong as grub
[16:45] <nacc> thyri: what version of ubuntu?
[16:46] <hiniya> sense then I have uninstalled everything from katoolin but I can not get a gnome to run and I still have a package issue and nothing I do seems to fix it.
[16:46] <hiniya> I am running 16.04 and linux 4.4.0-27-generic
[16:46] <tatertots> welcome back
[16:46] <CheeDinksi> tatertots:  Why thank you
[16:47] <thyri> nacc I think it's 15-something?
[16:47] <thyri> or 14 something?
[16:47] <thyri> I don't remember
[16:47] <tatertots> before u plug in that dongle
[16:47] <thyri> Nor do I recall how to find out.
[16:47] <nacc> thyri: lsb_release -a
[16:47] <tatertots> try modprob btusb
[16:47] <tatertots> with sudo of course
[16:47] <nacc> hiniya: the libpeas package you have installed (1.18.0-2) is not pacakged in any version of Ubuntu. I think you've broken your setup.
[16:47] <thyri> nacc in a command window?
[16:47] <CheeDinksi> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'btusb': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown
[16:47] <nacc> thyri: yes.
[16:48] <tatertots> darn it
[16:48] <tatertots> plug in the dongle
[16:48] <hiniya> is there a good way to unbreak it?
[16:48] <thyri> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[16:48] <CheeDinksi> Ok, done
[16:48] <nacc> hiniya: reinstall? i don't know what katoolin is, but you didn't fully undo whatever it did.
[16:48] <tatertots> i suspect it's gonna grab that bluetooth module again
[16:48] <tatertots> and that's fine if it does we'll deal with it
[16:48] <nacc> thyri: i think it's called software center then too, but not sure
[16:48] <hiniya> katoolin is an app to install software from kali for pentesting
[16:48] <nacc> thyri: or you can use `apt`
[16:49] <nacc> hiniya: yep, you broke your setup, probably.
[16:49] <nacc> hiniya: kali not supported here, nor is cleaning up trying to use kali.
[16:49] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: Bad question to ask this far into this, but are we sure we have the correct dongle/firmware...I've been going off the data returned in syslog
[16:49] <hiniya> 1
[16:49] <CheeDinksi> But it's a rebrand
[16:49] <thyri> apt?
[16:49] <hiniya> i understand just wasnt sure if yall could help with issue is all
[16:49] <thyri> where do i find this thing?
[16:50] <CheeDinksi> tatertots:  Insignia NS-PCY5BMA
[16:50] <nacc> !apt | thyri
[16:50] <nacc> thyri: you may want to read the ubuntu manual a bit
[16:50] <Tin_man> CheeDinksi, is this a wifi dongle?
[16:50] <tatertots> yeah u have correct firmware
[16:50] <tatertots> lsusb
[16:50] <CheeDinksi> Tin_man:  Bluetooth
[16:50] <Tin_man> ahh ok
[16:50] <hiniya> 1
[16:51] <tatertots> for that chipset
[16:51] <thyri> >.<
[16:51] <CheeDinksi> http://pastebin.com/J1auMzGA
[16:52] <nacc> thyri: or just use the software center as i said earlier (GUI)
[16:52] <tatertots> that lsusb output looks as if the dongle is NOT inserted yet
[16:52] <tatertots> insert dongle
[16:52] <thyri> nacc I'd love to use the software center but I don't know how to *get to* the software center.
[16:53] <CheeDinksi> I think it's the dynex, if i look in syslog it shows the device as #4, and the dongle is inserted
[16:53] <tatertots> ok ok this is good
[16:53] <nacc> thyri: are you running stock Ubuntu?
[16:53] <CheeDinksi> unless im reading the syslog incorrectly, but when I reseat, that is the usb #
[16:54] <thyri> nacc, I have no idea.
[16:54] <thyri> A friend of mine installed Ubuntu for me on this laptop
[16:55] <kshenoy> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu mini and have reached the point where it  asks me to select a kernel. Can someone pls suggest one and if possible explain the differences?
[16:55] <thyri> and didn't give me any info about it.
[16:55] <thyri> So I'm really flying blind here.
[16:55] <tatertots> plug dongle into different usb port and lsusb again
[16:55] <Tin_man> thyri, do you see a orange shopping bag on the left that's the Store for ubuntu
[16:55] <Tin_man> software center
[16:56] <nacc> Tin_man: thanks, i don't have 14.04 in front of me so wasn't sure what the icon was
[16:56] <thyri> Tin_man no, the only thing I see is the, uh, ubuntu symbol?  Upper left corner.
[16:56] <thyri> Blue circles-looking thing.
[16:56] <thyri> I guess it's the "start menu"
[16:56] <CheeDinksi> Dynex is now #5, which matches the syslog again
[16:56] <thyri> AHA!
[16:56] <tatertots> lsusb -v
[16:56] <thyri> Success!
[16:56] <tatertots> shows more verbose info
[16:56] <thyri> Ubuntu Software Center, right at the bottom :)
[16:56] <tatertots> ok cool
[16:57] <thyri> ok so doI just search for the little thingies I need?
[16:57] <CheeDinksi> I can't copy the entire output, run out of room to scroll up
[16:57] <vm096_> why my ubuntu network device is called eno1 and not eth0 on ubuntu 16.04?
[16:57] <tatertots> no worries
[16:57] <beantaxi> Anyone else getting 404s on apt-get on 14.04 (trusty)?
[16:57] <tatertots> standby
[16:57] <Tin_man> thyri, yes, or a name of the software
[16:58] <CheeDinksi> tatertots:  Ok...hey I'm really sorry, but I'll have to step away for a lunch meeting and can be back in ~1 hour...any chance you'll still be around?
[16:58] <genii> beantaxi: If you have PPAs, Launchpad is currently experiencing problems.
[16:58] <beantaxi> genii: Yes, it's definitely for PPAs. So basically just try again later?
[16:59] <genii> beantaxi: Yep
[16:59] <beantaxi> genii: Thanks very much for that
[16:59] <nacc> vm096_: predicate interface naming
[16:59] <beantaxi> genii: Also ... what is launchpad, anyway? Just a place that hosts PPAs?
[16:59] <genii> beantaxi: no problem.
[17:00] <tatertots> I'll be around most likely
[17:00] <CheeDinksi> Awesome...thank you so much again, tatertots!
[17:01] <CheeDinksi> Be back asap
[17:01] <genii> beantaxi: It's a resource for developers to work together, with additional things like personal package archives for those that want specific apps or different versions than what is in the regular repositories
[17:02] <vm096_> why my ubuntu network device is called eno1 and not eth0 on ubuntu 16.04?
[17:03] <nacc> vm096_: i just answered you?
[17:03] <jteppinette> Hey everyone, any updates on https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ being down?
[17:04] <beantaxi> genii: That's pretty cool. I didn't know any of that ... I'd just note 'launchpad.net' from time to time when doing updates
[17:05] <Bayam> excume me
[17:05] <Bayam> how can i use notepad in my ubuntu?
[17:05] <kshenoy> Bayam: notepad the editor?
[17:06] <kshenoy> Bayam: Do you specifically want to use notepad or any easy-to-use text editor? If the latter, then try gedit
[17:06] <Bayam> in windows
[17:06] <Bayam> sorry
[17:06] <Bayam> notepad which is usually used in windows
[17:06] <nacc> Bayam: you want to use a windows application in ubuntu?
[17:06] <nacc> Bayam: don't do that, use the ubuntu equivalent tool (gedit, kate, etc.)
[17:07] <kshenoy> ^
[17:07] <Bayam> nacc: don't?
[17:07] <jteppinette> vim
[17:07] <nacc> jteppinette: i figured that's a step too far :)
[17:07] <Bayam> then what is the application that resembles a notepad in ubuntu?
[17:07] <jteppinette> :)
[17:07] <kshenoy> Bayam: gedit
[17:07] <nacc> Bayam: you were just told, twice. gedit, kate, etc.
[17:07] <Bayam> i'm sorry :)
[17:07] <Bayam> thanks
[17:08] <nacc> or learn to use emacs/vim (gvim, if you must)...
[17:08] <kshenoy> Bayam: If you're going to be doing a lot of text-editing, it'll  be prudent to invest some time learning how to use a powerful text editor like vim/emacs. The learning curve is steep but the rewards are well worth the effort
[17:08] <jteppinette> Looks like https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ is back up.
[17:09] <Bayam> kshenoy: oke thanks i'll try sometime :)
[17:09] <beantaxi> genii: fyi apt-get update just succeeded, though I did need to add a public key from the keyserver to get it to work. I am assuming that is normal(ish) w launchpad from time to time
[17:10] <Jrmin> I'm having an issue where x fails to start sometimes after a reboot (like 20% of the time) with an error of no screens found. Anyone know how I should go about fixing this or troubleshooting?
[17:13] <sailingteam4> d
[17:13] <sailingteam4> qui est la
[17:13] <tatertots> With some kernel versions, you may have to rename the file to BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd
[17:14] <tatertots> we'll deal with that once u return from meeting
[17:17] <Amm0n> Jrmin, check syslog, kernel.log, Xorg.0.log for errors, or depending on your distro "sudo journalctl -b 3" to get messages for the last 3 boots
[17:18] <thyri> Ok so another really-super-newbie-to-Ubuntu question...
[17:18] <thyri> The "readme" file for Singularity says, "Run ./singularity from the installation directory to start Singularity."  How on earth do I do that?
[17:18] <Bayam> i'm a super-newbie hahaha
[17:18] <Jrmin> @Amm0n intel(0) [drm] failed to set drm interface version: permission denied [13] seems to be the first error
[17:23] <Amm0n> Jrmin, sounds like a driver issue to me, if the problem occurs only random
[17:24] <beantaxi> I have a server, onto which I load some bash and python scripts which get run via cron
[17:24] <beantaxi> Where should these files live? Reading about the FHS but I'm a bit lost
[17:26] <jteppinette> beantaxi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[17:28] <Bayam> i need a opinion
[17:29] <Bayam> what vpn nice to use?
[17:29] <cyberme> an opinion about what?
[17:30] <cyberme> I know nothing about vpn, sorry
[17:30] <jteppinette> they are all the worst
[17:30] <Bayam> sorry?
[17:30] <nacc> Bayam: use #ubuntu-offtopic for polling questions, please
[17:30] <Bayam> nacc: oke
[17:31] <carambas> hello. 16.04.01 is late. Anybody knows why is that?
[17:31] <beantaxi> jteppinette: Thanks ... I'm not sure that speaks to where to put my files though. Specifically /opt vs /usr/local/bin vs a folder under /usr/local/bin (I am assuming none of the other bin-ish options in the default PATH are good choices
[17:31] <nacc> beantaxi: they're your custom scripts? usually those would go in /usr/local/{bin,sbin} depending on if they are admin or not
[17:31] <Pici> carambas: its not July 21st.
[17:31] <carambas> oh no, it's not late, i'm just really bad with dates. sorry
[17:31] <Pici> carambas: my calendar still says June ;)
[17:31]  * nacc agrees with Pici :) [or at least my calendar does]
[17:32] <jteppinette> agree with beantaxi
[17:32] <jteppinette> *sorry, I mean nacc
[17:32] <nacc> beantaxi: /opt is rarely in the PATH by default; so you'd need to add it or use an explicit path to your executable in your cronjob (possibly advisable anyways)
[17:32] <beantaxi> nacc: Thanks ... from what I'm reading, officially anything under usr is supposed to have used package manager or something proper, and /opt is for non-standard stuff
[17:33] <beantaxi> nacc: however it also seems no one (on ubuntu) really uses opt and usr like that
[17:33] <thyri> Sooo, anyone?
[17:33] <beantaxi> just wanted to doublecheck I was being a good boy
[17:33] <beantaxi> nacc: Thanks for the explanation of bin vs sbin ... I've wondered about that
[17:34] <wiehan> Hi, I installed a fresh copy of 16.04. Usually I could do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell. Now, that doesn't work. Neither does another suggestion I found online help, that is: sudo apt-get install ubunt-gnome-desktop. How do I install the gnome shell?
[17:34] <nacc> beantaxi: might also clarify a bit: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11544/what-is-the-difference-between-opt-and-usr-local
[17:34] <nacc> beantaxi: *often*, /usr/local is meant to override what's in /usr
[17:34] <nacc> as the path search order (by default) puts /usr/local first
[17:34] <wiehan> How do I install gnome shell on 16.04
[17:35] <robert45> hi guys, I need to install PHP with ZTS support but the official ubuntu repo doesnt have this, do you guys know by chance if there is any repository with this PHP package?
[17:35] <nacc> robert45: for php7? not yet built for debian or ubuntu afaik
[17:35] <robert45> nacc any version, PHP 5.5 ideally
[17:35] <nacc> thyri: did you install the singularity package?
[17:35] <thyri> I can't figure out how to install it, nacc.
[17:35] <thyri> The Singularity Linux client can entirely run from the directory you have unpacked it into - no installation step is required.  If you wish to perform a separate installation step anyway, you may run './install.sh'
[17:35] <thyri> Run ./singularity from the installation directory to start Singularity.
[17:35] <beantaxi> nacc: Thanks ... I'd read that; it was the Kevin Wheeler comment on the accepted answer, that led me to thinking I needed an Ubuntu specific answer
[17:36] <thyri> "from the installation directory"...  i'm like, what?
[17:36] <robert45> nacc what you mean? what singularity package?
[17:36] <robert45> oh sorry I thought that was for me
[17:36] <thyri> nacc was talking to me, robert45.
[17:36] <nacc> thyri: use the software cetner and intstall it
[17:36] <nacc> thyri: don't build it yourself unless you know waht you're doing
[17:36] <vm096_> #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:37] <nacc> beantaxi: fair enough; i think you're fine
[17:37] <thyri> uh, yeah, I don't even know where to begin with "building"...
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: right, so don't :)
[17:37] <thyri> So how do I install it with Software Center?
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: same way you installed the others? search and install
[17:37] <thyri> Others?
[17:37] <thyri> I didn't install "others".
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: didn't you just aask about libuuid and other packages?
[17:37] <nacc> thyri: and were just told how to install those?
[17:37] <k1l> !register | vm096_
[17:37] <thyri> I typed in each of the things the site said I needed and Software Center couldn't find them.
[17:37] <thyri> No I wasn't told how to install them I was told to open Software Center and look for them.
[17:37] <thyri> Which I did.
[17:38] <thyri> And they didn't show up in the search.
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: you need to learn to search for packages. It won't be the exact name
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: so search for substrings. I found all 3
[17:38] <thyri> what the heck is a substring?
[17:38] <Marty1881> i have lxd setup on an ubuntu 16.04 host and my VMs are not respecting the limits.memory setting (2gb), they are given the hosts max memory (32gb). anyone have any suggestions?
[17:38] <thyri> You're acting like I've used Ubuntu before...  and I haven't.
[17:38] <wiehan> how do I install gnome
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: please read the ubuntu manual, before you start, then.
[17:38] <nacc> thyri: or the online documetnation, i think there's a getting started guide somewhere
[17:39] <nacc> Marty1881: lxd != VMs.
[17:39] <nacc> Marty1881: containers != VMs :)
[17:40] <wiehan> goodness. This place used to be helpful. Been here since 7.04
[17:40] <nacc> wiehan: you mean the gnome desktop?
[17:40] <Pici> wiehan: because you didn't get a response in 2 minutes?
[17:41] <beantaxi> wiehan: I've been here since about an hour ago and it's been pretty helpful
[17:41] <robert45> nacc so do you know if this is viable for PHP5 ?
[17:41] <nacc> robert45: looking, sorry
[17:41] <wiehan> good for you. How do I install gnome-shell as in the old days
[17:41] <robert45> nacc sure, appreciate your help
[17:41] <k1l> wiehan: besides you insulting all the volunteer helpers: what about you install the gnome-shell package?
[17:41] <nacc> robert45: php7 definitely doesn't have a zts build, checking on older
[17:42] <nacc> wiehan: apt-get install gnome-shell.
[17:42] <robert45> nacc I found this https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php-zts but it seems its for PHP7 only
[17:42] <SamF> Hey I'm getting a weird bug where my game pad is detected and works with some steam games but not others.  I checked the hardware tab in Logs and it shows that upon booting it is recognized by Ubuntu. It is kernel device c189:385
[17:42] <nacc> robert45: and highly highly experimental
[17:42] <wiehan> nacc does not work
[17:42] <nacc> robert45: don't run that in production :)
[17:42] <k1l> !details | wiehan
[17:42] <robert45> nacc understood
[17:42] <nacc> robert45: both ubuntu (16.04) and debian (stretch) are moving to php7 only, fwiw -- but still looking on the older packages
[17:43] <robert45> nacc ok standing by, tx for the help
[17:43] <majikman> in xenial, how can i get the applicaiton switcher to show up on all screens?
[17:43] <minas114> I know that ubuntu uses the GPU for Unity. My PC has the optimus technology -- will it be faster when using the NVIDIA card instead of the Intel one, when NOT playing games?
[17:44] <nacc> robert45:i think you'd need to rebuild yourself, unfortunately
[17:44] <robert45> nacc ugh :(
[17:44] <wiehan> nacc. As with previous iterations of 'buntu - you could run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and then select your preferred login manager and bob's-your-auntie you can use a full gnome shell DE instead of unity instead of installing ubuntu-gnome iso. Now, in 16.04 sudo apt-get intsall gnome-shell yields: E: Package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate
[17:44] <wiehan> Elaborate enough??
[17:44] <nacc> wiehan: alright, less attitude would help. And yes, that's enough information.
[17:44] <k1l> wiehan: did you enable universe?
[17:45] <k1l> wiehan: ans you should drop that attitude asap.
[17:45] <nacc> wiehan: it's in universe as k1l said
[17:45] <robert45> nacc what do you think about this one? https://launchpad.net/~scribeinc/+archive/ubuntu/php5-zts
[17:45] <k1l> !info gnome-shell | wiehan
[17:45] <nacc> !ppa | robert45
[17:45] <wiehan> that would have sufficed, instead of trumpeting from some RMS ivory tower
[17:46] <k1l> wiehan: stop that drama. last warning.
[17:46] <nacc> robert45: so it might work, but you're on your own (support wise)
[17:46] <nacc> robert45: i'd be hesitant to use that in production, as well, unless you knew the scribe folks and knew what their support was like
[17:47] <nacc> robert45: they are out of date relative to debian, e.g. (unstalbe has 5.6.22)
[17:47] <robert45> nacc got it, thanks
[17:47] <nacc> robert45: which also might imply missing security fixes :(
[17:48] <wiehan> goodbye, "friendly bunch" of Linux hipsters, and the exact reason why everybody hates you
[17:48] <beantaxi> I genuinely wonder what is wrong with that guy
[17:49] <nacc> moving on ... :)
[17:54] <stephanketterer> hello :)
[17:54] <stephanketterer> i have 16.04 and it has gcc version 5..xxxx.. for cuda installation i need gcc version 4.xx... is there a way to downgrade that ?
[17:56] <SamF> Hi, my game pad is detected and works with some steam games but not others.  I checked the hardware tab in Logs and it shows that upon booting it is recognized by Ubuntu. It is kernel device c189:385
[17:57] <zykotick9> stephanketterer: note, changing the gcc version of a release probably isn't a good idea...  good luck.
[17:57] <ripper> bad idea
[17:57] <stephanketterer> so change the release then ?
[17:57] <stephanketterer> i mean i need to install the software :)
[17:57] <beantaxi> stephanketterer: Can you do a parallel install of gcc 4.x.x, and then build using that?
[18:01] <nacc> stephanketterer: gcc-4.9 ?
[18:01] <nacc> it's packaged in 16.04
[18:01] <stephanketterer> when i type gcc-v
[18:01] <stephanketterer> i get 5 something
[18:01] <nacc> !info gcc-4.9 | stephanketterer
[18:02] <stephanketterer> did i maybe update it
[18:02] <stephanketterer> without knowing what i am doing ?
[18:02] <nacc> stephanketterer: yes, that's the 'gcc' metapackage's result, most likely (the default gcc is gcc-5
[18:02] <bigpic> can someone take a look at my /etc/network/interfaces?  For some reason the post-up route add is not working
[18:02] <bigpic> http://pastebin.com/G85mDu3F
[18:02] <bigpic> if I copy n paste the line into the cli after reboot
[18:02] <bigpic> the routes will persist
[18:03] <bigpic> but the routes don’t get created as a result of the interfaces file
[18:03] <bigpic> =\
[18:03] <nacc> stephanketterer: so `apt-get install gcc-4.9` if you really need 4.x
[18:03] <bigpic> gotta be something dumb
[18:03] <stephanketterer> i did that
[18:03] <stephanketterer> but when i use
[18:03] <stephanketterer> gcc -v
[18:03] <stephanketterer> still says 5 something
[18:04] <stephanketterer> can i tell when i install a file... "use gcc 4"'
[18:04] <nacc> stephanketterer: uh, that's becuase it installed /usr/bin/gcc-4.9
[18:04] <nacc> stephanketterer: you don't want to change the default compiler, usually
[18:04] <nacc> but you can install other compilers, as you ddid
[18:04] <nacc> stephanketterer: so you'd invoked it with /usr/bin/gcc-4.9
[18:05] <stephanketterer> simply after ./filename ?
[18:05] <stephanketterer> or how do i invoke it
[18:05] <nacc> stephanketterer: huh? i just told you
[18:05] <Tadgy> I've got a bug with cachefilesd - it won't start at all from systemctl or invoking /etc/init.d/cachefilesd directly (it seems to call systemctl, but systemctl calls the init.d file to start it...) - can anyone replicate the issue on a test box?
[18:05] <nacc> stephanketterer: you can also just run gcc-4.9, probably
[18:05] <nacc> stephanketterer: rather than gcc
[18:06] <stephanketterer> what does ./user/bin/gcc-4.9 mean
[18:06] <stephanketterer> where do i use that
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: right now you run `gcc -v`
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: instead run `gcc-4.9 -v`
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: or `/usr/bin/gcc-4.9 -v`
[18:06] <stephanketterer> ok thats it ?
[18:06] <nacc> stephanketterer: i don't know what you're doing, i'm just telling you that's how you invoke the 4.x gcc compiler :)
[18:07] <gollak> Hi all
[18:07] <stephanketterer> i am trying to install a file
[18:07] <stephanketterer> cud
[18:07] <stephanketterer> cuda
[18:07] <stephanketterer> that apparently does not run with gcc 5
[18:07] <nacc> stephanketterer: you're trying to install something? why do you need a compiler?
[18:07] <gollak> how could i set up my ssh-agent to my ubuntu lightning
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> gollak  ubuntu lightning?
[18:08] <gollak> MonkeyDust, oups, i mean lightdm
[18:08] <gentoouser3> hi
[18:08] <gentoouser3> can i ask for help about what command do?
[18:08] <nacc> !ask | gentoouser3
[18:08] <gentoouser3> or do i need to do my own research?
[18:08] <nacc> gentoouser3: although if you're on gentoo, may not get help in this channel :)
[18:08] <gentoouser3> im not
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> gollak  lightm is a display manager, what exactly do you mean
[18:09] <gentoouser3> http://prntscr.com/bk4gc0
[18:10] <gentoouser3> nacc:
[18:10] <nacc> gentoouser3: uh...
[18:10] <nacc> gentoouser3: what do you want to know?
[18:10] <gentoouser3> what is that do
[18:10] <CheeDinksi> looks like I missed all the good drama...what is wrong with some people...free help from friendly people and you still can't get along...oh well :)
[18:10] <nacc> gentoouser3: also, if you don't knwo what a command does, don't run it and don't *ever* use sudo to run it.
[18:11] <stephanketterer> because it says
[18:11] <stephanketterer> unsupported compiler
[18:11] <gentoouser3> what does it do
[18:11] <stephanketterer> when i want to install cuda
[18:11] <nacc> stephanketterer: please pastebin the exact output from whatever you're doing
[18:11] <nacc> gentoouser3: it wants to run that script as root
[18:11] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: Hey tater, still around?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> gentoouser3  if you want to focus your questions on scripts, better ask in #bash
[18:12] <gollak> MonkeyDust, i would like to save in memory my private key at computer starting
[18:12] <gollak> any idea ?
[18:12] <nacc> gentoouser3: so it checks you have sudo rights first (sudo -v); then it downloads linux-installer.py (wget ...) and sends the file over a pipe (|) to python (run as root (sudo)) which just runs the script read over stdin
[18:13] <nacc> gentoouser3: but as MonkeyDust said, if you don't know all those bits, probably ask in a shell channel
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> gollak  yes, it has name, have to look it up, moment
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> a name*
[18:15] <gollak> MonkeyDust, thanks
[18:15] <robert45> nacc trying to remove php with apt-get Im getting this error, any idea how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17758838/
[18:16] <gentoouser3> what is shell channel?
[18:17] <nacc> robert45: this is on 16.04?
[18:17] <robert45> nacc yep
[18:17] <stephanketterer> it says
[18:17] <mulletdeath> I'm in the process of upgrading to 16.04 as we speak, and also backing up 1.2 TB of data to a drive. Will the update process interrupt my backup, or will I prompted if it needs to restart?
[18:18] <stephanketterer> Error: unsupported compiler: 5.3.1 Use --override to override this check
[18:18] <gentoouser3> hi
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> gollak  you mean this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17759083/
[18:19] <gentoouser3> i want to do it to install calibre
[18:19] <gentoouser3> so should i do that?
[18:19] <reisio> hi gentoo
[18:19] <nacc> !paste | stephanketterer
[18:19] <reisio> gentoouser3: do what to install calibre?
[18:19] <k1l> gentoouser3: ubuntu already ships a calibre package. use that
[18:19] <nacc> mulletdeath: i would have backed up *before* upgrading, probably :)
[18:19] <gentoouser3> i jut dont know what is wget-nv and main=lambda:sys.stderr.write('download failed ...
[18:19] <stephanketterer> i can't , because i am writing from another machine.. somehow irc does not install on my ubuntu
[18:20] <stephanketterer> and there is nothing more to paste than that line
[18:20] <reisio> gentoouser3: sounds like some python
[18:20] <k1l> gentoouser3: no, dont load stuff from other websites and run that as sudo. use the ubuntu package.
[18:20] <nacc> gentoouser3: i told you quite explicitly what that all does, but as k1l says, you should just use the packaged calibre
[18:20] <nacc> stephanketterer: then c&p...
[18:21] <nacc> stephanketterer: i need to see what you're running to cause that line to be printed, you're not giving enough context
[18:21] <gentoouser3> im in raspbian :)
[18:21] <nacc> stephanketterer: as in 'it' is undefined in your sentence
[18:21] <stephanketterer> sudo sh cuda_7.5....run
[18:21] <gentoouser3> this: https://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux
[18:21] <k1l> gentoouser3: so stop asking in here for non ubuntu support then. ask #raspbian
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> gentoouser3  try   sudo apt install calibre
[18:21] <gentoouser3> MonkeyDust: how is it different from it?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> ah, missed the rpi part
[18:22] <nacc> stephanketterer: are you on 16.04?
[18:22] <gentoouser3> MonkeyDust: ?
[18:22] <stephanketterer> yes
[18:22] <nacc> stephanketterer: i think cuda 7.5 is packaged
[18:22] <gollak> MonkeyDust, no..
[18:22] <k1l> gentoouser3: we cant focus on the others distros issues. please ask the support channel for the distro you use. thanks
[18:22] <reisio> gentoouser3: downloading random installers is something for people on other OSes
[18:22] <stephanketterer> that means what exactly ? :)
[18:22] <gentoouser3> well i just want to install calibre to read pdfs
[18:22] <gentoouser3> is it safe? https://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux
[18:22] <reisio> stephanketterer: in the repos, no .run required, he means
[18:23] <stephanketterer> how do i install it then ?
[18:23] <stephanketterer> i know i am a noob
[18:23] <reisio> gentoouser3: not really what calibre is for, FYI; try evince
[18:23] <gebbione> my pc shutdown today for no apparent reason, what are the best logs to look for any errors?
[18:23] <nacc> !info libcudart7.5 | stephanketterer
[18:23] <gollak> i would like to avoid to launch this command at each start of my computer : ssh-agent && ssh-add /home/...my.key
[18:23] <nacc> stephanketterer: one sec, searching
[18:23] <reisio> stephanketterer: apt-cache search cuda | less
[18:23] <reisio> gebbione: laptop?
[18:23] <gollak> MonkeyDust, ssh-agent && ssh-add /home/
[18:23] <robert45> nacc any hint? Im in a serious trouble
[18:23] <gebbione> also Xorg logs are a bit strange.
[18:24] <gebbione> gollak, desktop
[18:24] <gollak> gebbione, sorry ?
[18:24] <gollak> i have a desktop yes
[18:25] <k1l> gebbione: look at /var/log into the syslog. maybe you need the older syslog if its already cycled
[18:25] <nacc> robert45: looking one sec
[18:25] <gebbione> reisio, i have a desktop. not a laptop
[18:25] <gebbione> xorg shows an error but timestamps are missing
[18:25] <gebbione> there are some strange numbers
[18:25] <nacc> stephanketterer: apt-cache seems to indciate the cuda packages are in multiverse (in particular libcudart7.5, maybe)?
[18:26] <stephanketterer> i am sure you are right
[18:26] <stephanketterer> i just don't know what that means
[18:26] <reisio> gebbione: not sure I've ever seen X cause a reboot (force one by freezing the whole system and leaving you personally no other option, yes)
[18:27] <nacc> stephanketterer: do you have multiverse enabled on your system?
[18:28] <nacc> robert45: i just spun up a container, and ran `apt-get install libglib2.0-dev` which put on the same version as you had an issue with, and no problem. Did you muck with your system ptyhon?
[18:28] <stephanketterer> since i do not know what it is,.. i have the default settings ? :)
[18:28] <robert45> nacc Well I tried the PPA repository, installed few things and then removed the repo because it didnt suceed
[18:28] <nacc> !repositories | stephanketterer
[18:28] <nacc> robert45: the scribe one?
[18:28] <gebbione> reisio, i blame it on all these updates ... i get errors like [    10.827] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file:
[18:29] <reisio> gebbione: hrmmm, never actually had a proprietary graphics driver fore a shutdown, either
[18:29] <stephanketterer> ok looked it up
[18:29] <stephanketterer> so if i enable it
[18:29] <stephanketterer> does that get me closer ?
[18:29] <reisio> gebbione: I'd start monitoring temperatures
[18:29] <robert45> nacc nope, the ppa:ondrej/php one
[18:29] <reisio> stephanketterer: to installing something in multiverse, yes
[18:29] <nacc> stephanketterer: yes, then you'd apt-get install the right pacakge
[18:30] <gebbione> reisio, well we had a very hot/wet day in the uk but i doubt my room temperature was that hot
[18:30] <stephanketterer> and how would i do that ?
[18:31] <nacc> robert45: i don't think ondrej's ppa has any glib stuff, are you using other ppas? that error seems unrelated to the ppas
[18:31] <robert45> nacc nope, not really. Just official ones
[18:31] <nacc> stephanketterer: you find the pacakge you need, although perhaps you should use the software center
[18:31] <reisio> gebbione: right, but computers aren't supposed to turn off on their own, so we're already in the realm of out of the ordinary
[18:31] <stephanketterer> i go in the software center and type in cuda?
[18:31] <nacc> stephanketterer: right
[18:31] <nacc> stephanketterer: once you have multiverse enabled
[18:31] <stephanketterer> hmm i will try :)
[18:31] <stephanketterer> give me second :D
[18:32] <gebbione> reisio, is there a structured way to monitor temperatures?
[18:32] <robert45> nacc how should I fix this?
[18:33] <nacc> robert45: can you pastebin `python --version`?
[18:33] <stephanketterer> it says no application found
[18:33] <stephanketterer> when i search for cud
[18:33] <stephanketterer> cud
[18:33] <robert45> nacc shows: Python 3.5.1+
[18:34] <reisio> gebbione: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:35] <KidnappedVictim> hello i have a wallpaper which i would like to move up a little bit
[18:35] <superguest> I am having trouble a saving the current xserver configuration for my multi-monitor setup to xorg.conf
[18:35] <superguest> http://termbin.com/4miu
[18:35] <KidnappedVictim> how can i do it
[18:35] <nacc> stephanketterer: which tool are you using?
[18:36] <superguest> In the current/running X session, I have configured and applied the desired settings via nvidia-settings
[18:36] <stephanketterer> tool ?
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> to illustrate this, i shall use an example: there's an image containing 10 numbers upside down like 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on. however, the desktop wallpaper shows only 3 and 4 since its zoomed in
[18:36] <stephanketterer> i clicked on software center and typed in cud
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> i want to raise it and show 1 and 2 instead
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> i don't want to change the zooming
[18:36] <KidnappedVictim> superguest, nacc any idea?
[18:37] <nacc> KidnappedVictim: don't ping random people, those that can answer will.
[18:37] <superguest> but on reboot, it doesn't load the desired settings which I expect to be saved to xorg.conf (http://termbin.com/4miu)
[18:37] <Jordan_U> KidnappedVictim: Is the aspect ratio of the image the same as the aspect ratio of your screen?
[18:37] <KidnappedVictim> Jordan_U, no
[18:37] <nacc> stephanketterer: i think software center maybe isn't capable of seraching all packages (it seems to want to show me applications). I've never used it
[18:38] <nacc> stephanketterer: try the ubuntu software centre instead
[18:38] <reisio> KidnappedVictim: wouldn't it be simplest to crack it open in GIMP and crop it to the specific dimensions of your resolution?
[18:38] <Jordan_U> KidnappedVictim: Ok. What do you want to fill that missing space instead then? Do you want the image stretched or do you want bars on the top and bottom/ sides?
[18:38] <KidnappedVictim> i think gimp is probably the best idea
[18:38] <KidnappedVictim> thanks Jordan_U and reisio
[18:39] <stephanketterer> ok its a bug have to reboot it says
[18:39] <stephanketterer> one sec
[18:39] <robert45> nacc any idea how to fix this /usr/bin/pyclean thing? Im willing to pay for you time if you help me fixing this
[18:40] <nacc> robert45: i really have no idea what state you're in, or how it got there, unfortunately. as I said, i couldn't reproduce it. Possibly someone else can help
[18:40] <nacc> robert45: if it is a real syntax error, i guess you could try fixing it, but not sure why only you'd be seeing it
[18:40] <stephanketterer> it says i have to use apt-get install f
[18:41] <stephanketterer> to get it going
[18:41] <stephanketterer> but package not found
[18:41] <nacc> stephanketterer: please use pastebin, it's next to impossible to follow or help right now
[18:41] <nacc> stephanketterer: using 'it' over and over again, means i don't know what you're referring to
[18:42] <C_minus> I installed the CUDA 7.5 toolkit and graphics driver. Now hangs on 5 dots screen. I tried running the uninstall .pl script provided. Still hangs at boot.
[18:42] <stephanketterer> it says 16.04 has a bug so you cannot see the ubuntu software center, it is solved by changing the language settings... i tried to open it.. and it told me i need to use apt-get update install f
[18:45] <robert45> anybody else willing to help? Im getting a apt-get error, any help is aprpeciated http://paste.ubuntu.com/17758838/
[18:46] <nacc> robert45: figured it out
[18:46] <nacc> robert45: you've got python3 as your default python interpreter
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: and in python3, you must use 'as' for exceptions
[18:47] <C_minus> I can't run in failsafeX recovery mode either. I can't see the cursor.
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: it's a bug in that file, i guess, because 16.04 should be python3 safe
[18:47] <robert45> nacc oh, I see
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: but a quick fix, would be to edit /usr/bin/pyclean
[18:47] <nacc> robert45: go to line 63
[18:47] <C_minus> How can I edit grub to see which specific line I'm getting an error on?
[18:47] <nacc> and change the ',' to ' as'
[18:48] <C_minus> I remember the last time this happened, there was some problem with the xorg configuration file...
[18:48] <nacc> robert45: i would also file a bug, if you don't mind
[18:48] <nacc> against python-minimal
[18:48] <daumie> Everytime i log in I encounter  "system  problem detected"    how can i  revert this.
[18:49] <robert45> nacc Line 63 is: except (IOError, OSError), e:
[18:49] <nacc> robert45: can you also tell me what `which python` says?
[18:49] <robert45> nacc which python returns /usr/bin/python
[18:49] <ioria> daumie, can you paste   ls /var/crash   ?
[18:50] <nacc> robert45: ok, was just dobule-checking that there wasn't a local python
[18:50] <nacc> robert45: ok, change the ', e' to ' as e'
[18:50] <nacc> robert45: sorry, there were two commas in the line :)
[18:50] <robert45> nacc like this? except (IOError, OSError) as e:
[18:51] <nacc> robert45: yes
[18:51] <nacc> robert45: then run the apt-get again
[18:53] <robert45> nacc same error :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/17760989/
[18:54] <nacc> robert45: different error, as in different file
[18:54] <nacc> robert45: it might be faster to just switch back to python2
[18:55] <robert45> nacc I just found the PPA did replace some python files, see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761078/
[18:55] <robert45> nacc can I just go back to the previous package?
[18:56] <Jordan_U> !ppa-purge | robert45
[18:56] <nacc> Jordan_U: thanks
[18:56] <nacc> robert45: i dn't see any python pacakges from the ppa, fwiw
[18:57] <Jordan_U> nacc: You're welcome.
[18:57] <nacc> robert45: it seems like possibly your install was a bit messed up alrady (the dpkg warnings)
[18:58] <robert45> nacc ouch :( should I still try the ppa-purge thing?
[18:58] <nacc> robert45: yeah, it can't hurt
[18:59] <nacc> robert45: it was proably a mistake (however you did it) to make python -> python3
[19:01] <robert45> nacc ouch I cant install ppa-purge because the Unmet dependencies
[19:01] <robert45> nacc robert45: it was proably a mistake (however you did it) to make python -> python3 --> what about re-setting the python interpreter?
[19:02] <nacc> robert45: yeah, do you know how you did it?
[19:02] <nacc> robert45: to confirm, /usr/bin/python2 exists?
[19:02] <robert45> nacc by the way http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761474/
[19:03] <robert45> nacc yes /usr/bin/python2 works
[19:04] <nacc> robert45: ok, so how did you change python to be python3 (that's not ubuntu standard and violates PEP)
[19:04] <robert45> nacc probably the PPA did?
[19:05] <ioria> python --version  should tell you
[19:05] <reisio> he already knows it's python 3
[19:05] <reisio> he wants it to be python 2 again, if that is indeed what it should be for his Ubuntu version
[19:05] <nacc> robert45: i doubt it, that would violate the python policies for both debian and php (and ondrej is a debian developer)
[19:05] <lonix> So in a ubuntu server scenario ubuntu 16.04, is /etc/network/interfaces not the correct location to configure dns ?
[19:05] <robert45> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761639/
[19:05] <ioria> there was an update-alternatives somewhere  ...
[19:05] <nacc> robert45: can you pastebin `ls -ahl /usr/bin/python*` ?
[19:06] <nacc> ioria: yeah i can't find it on my system anymore (for python)
[19:06] <ioria> i see
[19:06] <robert45> nacc here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17761689/
[19:07] <nacc> robert45: ok, i think it's just a symlink issue. DId you happen to `sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python` ?
[19:07] <nacc> it would have been about a week ago by that output
[19:07] <nacc> (well, maybe)
[19:07] <robert45> nacc I dont recall doing so no
[19:08] <reisio> robert45: but do you recall doing "something" about a week ago? (installing your ppa?)
[19:08] <robert45> reisio I installed the PPA today
[19:08] <robert45> thats when all started
[19:08] <nacc> robert45: presuming you did, a fix is to `sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python`, but I'm not 100% that's going to undo whatever did that step
[19:09] <nacc> the above link is how it is supposed to be in ubuntu & debian for the time being
[19:09] <nacc> anything else will lead to errors like you saw
[19:09] <robert45> nacc as far as I can start using apt-get Im good, thats my main issue
[19:09] <reisio> I'd say that's something to go ahead and try
[19:09] <reisio> it's easily undone, anyway
[19:11] <robert45> reisio nacc so does symlinking this will fix the apt issues ?
[19:11] <robert45> I still want to install the ppa-purge thing to make sure nothing is broken
[19:11] <reisio> robert45: shouldn't hurt to try
[19:11] <reisio> you can always undo it
[19:12] <robert45> reisio nacc ooooh that did it !!
[19:12] <reisio> gj
[19:13] <reisio> now what you might do is make sure you don't have anything else that is expecting 'python' to be python _3_
[19:13] <reisio> any important things
[19:13] <robert45> reisio how should I proceed to do that?
[19:15] <reisio> robert45: just consider what the important applications on the server are, the point of the server
[19:15] <reisio> robert45: consider if they utilize python, make sure they are still functioning
[19:15] <CheeDinksi> would anyone enjoy the pain of helping me continue to troubleshoot a usb bluetooth adapter issue?  tatertots and wuseman were assisting before I was called away.
[19:16] <robert45> reisio understood, one last thing how can I check if there are no other packages installed from the PPA repo?
[19:17] <reisio> ask the channel
[19:17] <wuseman> CheeDinksi: is modules loaded?
[19:18] <wuseman> What was the device product model number?
[19:18] <CheeDinksi> Product: BCM20702A0
[19:19] <CheeDinksi> Right before I left, tater seemed to suggest we were unto something
[19:19] <CheeDinksi> We verified that the device was listed with 'lsusb'
[19:23] <nacc> robert45: ppa-purge will handle that (or shuld)
[19:24] <robert45> nacc well it doesnt show anything but Im pretty sure there are some other packages installed
[19:25] <chalcedony> my husband seems to have a file corruption problem on ubuntu his libre office says it can't save a document, because the disk is full. . he says the disk is not full! .. something is wrong. How can i trouble shoot this?
[19:26] <Ben64> chalcedony: disk is probably full. "df -h" will show disk usage
[19:26] <chalcedony> Ben64, thanks sure doesnt look full
[19:27] <Ben64> pastebin output of that command
[19:27] <TrentH> I'm unable to control my brightness on my laptop until I log off and log back in?
[19:29] <hamed_> hamed
[19:30] <bizancio> Hello. I want to type caron (inverted ^) above letters in Ubuntu (actually, Xubuntu). Is there a way to do that like I do with accents? (e.g. á)
[19:30] <chalcedony> ok Ben64
[19:32] <chalcedony> Ben64, 1 hour paste http://pastebin.com/J01hSKBD
[19:32] <ioria> bizancio, like this ˇ  ?
[19:32] <Ben64> bizancio: the unicode character for the combining caron is 0x030C
[19:33] <Ben64> chalcedony: notice line 5
[19:33] <chalcedony> ah
[19:33] <ioria> ! T 100% wow....
[19:33] <chalcedony> so Ben64 his sda1
[19:34] <Ben64> chalcedony: doesn't really matter what device it is, the important part is on the right, it's the root filesystem and it's totally full
[19:34] <chalcedony> i see
[19:35] <Ben64> doesn't even look like the standard root reserved part is there on the filesystem, no good
[19:36] <FMan> btw, does Ubuntu support setting disk space usage quotas for users?
[19:37] <bekks> FMan: Yes.
[19:37] <ioria> !info quota
[19:38] <ubuntu-confused> Can someone help me with boot issues - trying to set up Ubuntu on existing Win10 HomeEd laptop
[19:38] <chull> Ben64, this is chalcedony typing from hubby's computer.  he's been running something i thnk it's called f3write that is supposed to test and check usb drives
[19:39] <tatertots> back
[19:39] <tatertots> CheeDinkski u here
[19:39] <chull> f3write/media/ and f3write/media/FIRMWARE  - maybe it filled up his root directory with junk?
[19:40] <Ben64> chull: possible
[19:40] <bizancio> Ben64: thanks! But what's the shortcut for typing that.. I'm trying Ctrl + hift + U + <combination> + letter but it doesn't seem to work
[19:41] <Ben64> bizancio: works here. ǐ
[19:41] <chull> 2015-11-19dmesg.txt  DEADJOE  driver.tar.bz2  sdc1
[19:41] <chull> 2015-11-19lshw.txt   Desktop  r8168-8.040.00
[19:41] <tatertots> How's everyone doing this afternoon? Hope everyone is doing well.
[19:42] <chull> Ben64, i can't pastebin on his computer atm.
[19:42] <Ben64> chull: f3 normally creates files like "1.fff"
[19:42] <ioria> bizancio,     ctrl+shift+alt    02c7
[19:42] <Ben64> look for a bunch of 1GB files
[19:42] <chull> Ben64, yes it was
[19:42] <ioria> bizancio,     ctrl+shift+u    02c7
[19:43] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: I'm back!
[19:43] <tatertots> ah cool
[19:43] <bizancio> ioria: ctrl+shift+u 02c7 worked! thanks.. I'm gonna try the combining one
[19:43] <ioria> bizancio,     oky
[19:43] <tatertots> I'd like to know what modules you have blacklisted CheeDinksi
[19:44] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: Sure thing
[19:44] <Ben64> bizancio: on my system, i have to do the letter first... like a, then do ctrl+shift+u (then let go of shift) then hit 030C, then let go..... result ----> ǎ
[19:44] <tatertots> "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[19:44] <bizancio> Ben64: it works.. thanks! That's what I needed :)
[19:44] <tatertots> that's the location
[19:44] <Ben64> bizancio: :D
[19:45] <tatertots> you can "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" to see what's blacklisted
[19:45] <tatertots> I wonder if u blacklisted btusb
[19:45] <Ben64> bizancio: you might be able to set up a shortcut that will give you the character and avoid the whole ctrl+shift thing
[19:45] <nacc> Ben64: at least here, you don't need to hold down anything after hitting ctrl+shift+u
[19:45] <CheeDinksi> cat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: No such file or directory
[19:46] <nacc> Ben64: entered 030c, then hit enter and it changed the a for me
[19:46] <Ben64> nacc: :O that works for me too
[19:46] <nacc> Ben64: TIL! :)
[19:46] <tatertots> try looking in "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"
[19:46] <eelstrebor> how does one change locale back to english - i don't know how my pc got set for spanish but i can't seem to get back to english - the odd thing is that some stuff is in english and some in spanish
[19:46] <Ben64> used to be i had to hold ctrl+shift the whole time, then on 14.04 i had to let go of shift... apparently i didn't have to hold anything the whole time
[19:47] <ubuntu-confused> I'm looking for a bit of help on a boot issue, I have a pastebin file for anyone who can help.
[19:47] <tatertots> with cat of course
[19:47] <nacc> Ben64: i call that progress! :)
[19:47] <Ben64> yep
[19:48] <chalcedony> Ben64, hes got a file in root sdc1 that is huge! he isnt sure what it is, is it something important? "appears to be a binary file"
[19:48] <Ben64> chalcedony: what is it? run "file" on it
[19:48] <CheeDinksi> http://pastebin.com/kpkKeQzp
[19:50] <tatertots> ok i don't see btusb and that's good
[19:50] <tatertots> means it's not blacklisted
[19:50] <CheeDinksi> One less thing to worry about :)
[19:50] <chalcedony> Ben64, thanks
[19:51] <chalcedony> chull:~# file sdc1
[19:51] <chalcedony> sdc1: x86 boot sector
[19:51] <nacc> seems like a dd outfile
[19:51] <chalcedony> Ben64, heh.. so
[19:51] <Ben64> yeah, drive image
[19:52] <chalcedony> what do we need to do?
[19:52] <Ben64> you should try to find the f3 files
[19:52] <tatertots> can you pull any info about btusb from your system with "modinfo btusb"
[19:53] <Ben64> chalcedony: find / | grep fff$
[19:54] <tatertots> did it show any info?
[19:54] <chalcedony> Ben64, is that the command or ?
[19:55] <chalcedony>  grep "fff"  sdc1  returned 0
[19:56] <CheeDinksi> one sec, sorry
[19:57] <CheeDinksi> filename:       /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.ko
[19:57] <CheeDinksi> modinfo: ERROR: could not get modinfo from 'btusb': No such file or directory
[19:57] <tatertots> ah ok
[19:58] <tatertots> you don't even have the module at all it seams...
[19:58] <tatertots> seems
[19:58] <CheeDinksi> Possible...remember I'm *nix 'special'
[19:59] <tatertots> we need to load that module so we'll work on obtaining it
[19:59] <CheeDinksi> Sounds good
[20:00] <tatertots> that's so weird that it's not on ur system already, it usually is
[20:01] <Archeus> hello ppl
[20:01] <CheeDinksi> I can guarantee one thing, I didn't manually remove it
[20:03] <Archeus> my wifi is not working properly
[20:03] <Archeus> it shows I am connected but am not able to use it
[20:04] <tatertots> do you have linux headers ? if not install them with "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[20:04] <nacc> tatertots: don't have the full history handy, but are you sure the running kernel matches the above path?
[20:05] <CheeDinksi> Doesn't look like I had it...
[20:05] <nacc> tatertots: if not, might need to pass -k
[20:06] <tatertots> :P thanks nacc
[20:08] <tatertots> CheeDinksi you were on like a 3.12 kernel if i'm remembering correctly from this morning correct?
[20:08] <CheeDinksi> yes
[20:09] <CheeDinksi> Linux ubuntu-OptiPlex-740-Enhanced 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[20:09] <tatertots> I want to share a link with you, however there's only a portion of it that's applicable or important in your situation
[20:10] <CheeDinksi> 3.13, we were close!
[20:10] <tatertots> but i feel u should see this
[20:10] <ikonia> tatertots: who are you talking to
[20:10] <CheeDinksi> As long as it's nothing that can't unseen :)
[20:10] <tatertots> lol
[20:11] <CheeDinksi> can't be*
[20:11] <ikonia> tatertots: if the link is related to ubuntu support thats fine, if not, please don't share
[20:11] <tatertots> I was talking to CheeDinksi ikonia....sorry for not using names consistently guys :P
[20:11] <ikonia> tatertots: not a problem
[20:11] <tatertots> ok here goes
[20:11] <tatertots> http://plugable.com/2014/06/23/plugable-usb-bluetooth-adapter-solving-hfphsp-profile-issues-on-linux
[20:12] <tatertots> just the part in "BOLD" CheeDinksi
[20:12] <CheeDinksi> Ok
[20:12] <tatertots> I'd like for you to have both naming conventions
[20:12] <tatertots> to cover our bases
[20:13] <ikonia> that doesn't looks like the same bluetooth device he's using
[20:13] <CheeDinksi> cp: cannot stat ‘/lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A0-0a5c-21e8.hcd’: No such file or directory
[20:13] <ikonia> well no, it woudn't be
[20:13] <tatertots> ikonia did u see my DISCLAIMER...about applicable section for him
[20:13] <ikonia> tatertots: what applicable section ?
[20:13] <tatertots> so don't read too far into it idonia
[20:14] <tatertots> ikonia
[20:14] <ikonia> tatertots: it's totally different hardware ?
[20:14] <CheeDinksi> ikonia: This is from the syslog
[20:14] <CheeDinksi> ubuntu-OptiPlex-740-Enhanced kernel: [  699.713095] usb 2-5: Product: BCM20702A0
[20:15] <tatertots> feel free to find and read all the history going back to this morning and read all his pastebins
[20:15] <tatertots> I'll wait
[20:15] <CheeDinksi> Seems to be the same, no?
[20:15] <ikonia> tatertots: I'm just asking how that links relates to him
[20:15] <ikonia> as the hardware looks totally different
[20:16] <ikonia> (I'm asking not telling)
[20:16] <tatertots> broadcom chipset is what they have in common
[20:16] <ikonia> ok, so you're working from the chipset
[20:17] <tatertots> for example "ralink" makes tons of net adapters wired and wireless from various vendors i.e netgear, dlink ect ect...
[20:17] <tatertots> so the box might say netgear or dlink
[20:17] <ikonia> yes, I see what you're saying, I didn't see the chipset was the same
[20:17] <tatertots> but the chipset
[20:17] <ikonia> hence why I was asking
[20:18] <CheeDinksi> If I knew more, I'd be able to help you helpers...in <gasp> Win, I would just hit the pcidatabase with the hardware id and be in business...here, I'm clueless
[20:18] <tatertots> no worries
[20:18] <binarydepth> I'm having trouble with the configuration of a digitizer, it is working but the click actions are inverted
[20:19] <tatertots> we've just about ruled it down to you not having btusb at all Cheedinksi
[20:19] <CheeDinksi> I'll take your word for it ;)
[20:20] <binarydepth> Where could be this digitizer configured ?
[20:21] <OerHeks> CheeDinksi, i think it is a wifi/BT combo, that BCM20702A0\
[20:22] <CheeDinksi> Possible, but there is no mention of wifi on any of the packaging, cd's, etc
[20:23] <CheeDinksi> The rebrand is Insignia NS-PCY5BMA
[20:24] <CheeDinksi> The biggest pain in the ass $13 will get you :)
[20:26] <tatertots> lol
[20:27] <tatertots> CheeDinksi I know ur on like a 3.12 kernel ...i know if i scroll up i'd see it but what ubuntu version u running ?
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> CheeDinksi  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[20:28] <tatertots> wow got active in here all the sudden
[20:28] <CheeDinksi> 14.04 LTS...that what you mean?
[20:28] <tatertots> yes
[20:29] <CheeDinksi> wow...what the heck just happened
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> CheeDinksi  paste the outcome here
[20:29] <tatertots> would u happen to have access to or be able to download the ISO for a newer/older ubuntu release
[20:29] <CheeDinksi> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:30] <tatertots> the reason i ask is that i'd like to see if btusb is available to u when booted from live cd/live usb
[20:30] <CheeDinksi> Yeah, I can go dl a newer version
[20:30] <CheeDinksi> Did you have one in mind, specifically?
[20:30] <tatertots> I have it on my 14.04 not sure why u don't have it on your 14.04
[20:32] <nacc> is it possible that linux-image-extra got uninstalled?
[20:32] <tatertots> it's like btusb just got up and walked out of your box
[20:32] <nacc> it seems unlikely
[20:32] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: I'll have to head back to my office to dl/burn, so if I'm not responding for a bit
[20:32] <barhum2013> I managed to lock myself out of the server and can no longer login via ssh, only through a console online.  I deleted all the ssh keys from the authorized_keys file,  I tried to edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file to PermitRootLogin yes  but I still get a Permission denied (publickey) error and no password prompt for root.  Any ideas, please?
[20:33] <tatertots> ok
[20:33] <SirTimesOutALot> barhum2013: do you have physical access to the server or is it in a datacenter / off a cloud provider
[20:34] <barhum2013> SirTimeOutAlot: no, it is a digitalocean droplet, I do have a console in digitalocean
[20:34] <SirTimesOutALot> barhum2013: make sure that Password authentication isnt disabled in VNC I forget the exact config
[20:35] <tatertots> anybody else running 14.04 in here ?....
[20:36] <tatertots> can any other 14.04 users in here get anything from "modinfo btusb"
[20:36] <tatertots> I have it on my 14.04 rig
[20:36] <tatertots> this things been up and running for years though
[20:37] <barhum2013> SirTimesOutALot: https://postimg.org/image/chwfgr7wx/
[20:38] <ubuntu__> Does anybody know where this driver is located 0 inteldrmfb its for /dev/fb0  cann't find it under lsmod so not a module and cann't find it in kallsyms so doesn't look like its a built in kernel function so where the heck is this driving program for the framebuffer?
[20:38] <barhum2013> These are my settings sshd_conifg
[20:38] <nacc> ubuntu__: drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_fbdev.c:
[20:39] <nacc> ubuntu__: as i've told you in the past, you will need to read the kernel source, a grep showed that immediately.
[20:39] <ubuntu__> what is the /proc/fb info its misleading?
[20:39] <OerHeks> misreading*
[20:39] <FMan> Firefox refuses to show that: postimg.org uses an invalid security certificate.
[20:39] <ubuntu__> what
[20:40] <nacc> tatertots: ok, just spun up a trusty lxc container, installed linux-image-generic, `modinfo -k 3.13.0-88-generic btusb` works
[20:40] <ubuntu__> i didn't misread it says   0 inteldrmfb
[20:40] <bekks> FMan: There is nothing we can do about it. Only the maintainer of the website can.
[20:40] <ubuntu__> which from what i take it is  for /dev/fb0  "0" and the name of the driver
[20:40] <nacc> ubuntu__: please re-state your question? you're claiming /proc/fb is wrong?
[20:41] <nacc> ubuntu__: that's not how driver names work.
[20:41] <tatertots> sweet
[20:41] <ubuntu__> yes it says this  0 inteldrmfb
[20:41] <nacc> ubuntu__: please read about the linux kernel, development, the source, something. Your questions don't make any sense.
[20:41] <ubuntu__>  so lsmod doesn't so anything for that name so its not an LKM
[20:41] <nacc> ubuntu__: what says this?
[20:41] <k1l> ubuntu__: and what is wrong with that output of /proc/fb ?
[20:42] <ubuntu__> what is  inteldrmfb ?
[20:42] <bekks> ubuntu__: lsmod shows how many other devices, etc. are use that one particular module currently.
[20:42] <bekks> ubuntu__: "inteldrmfb" is the name of a kernel module, aka "a driver".
[20:42] <ubuntu__> inteldrmfb is not a module
[20:42] <nacc> ubuntu__: inteldrmfb is the 'pretty string' for the intel FB driver
[20:43] <FMan> Intel's DRM for Facebook?
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu__: as i said, just grep the kernel source and you can see this
[20:43] <tatertots> :P
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu__: strcpy(info->fix.id, "inteldrmfb");
[20:43] <k1l> ubuntu__: can you please say again what the exact issue is?
[20:43] <ubuntu__> so is  inteldrmfb a c program file or the name of the function that drivers the fb or something else
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu__: please read the source.
[20:44] <nacc> ubuntu__: it is none of those things.
[20:44] <ubuntu__> i just want to understand what the string info means  0 inteldrmfb
[20:44] <bekks> ubuntu__: I just told you. It is up to you to read what I wrote.
[20:44] <k1l> ubuntu__: inteldrmfb is a framebuffer driver by intel
[20:44] <nacc> ubuntu__: i believe the number is an index, and the string is the fb driver for that index
[20:44] <nacc> ubuntu__: a driver's name != source file name != module name, to be clear
[20:45] <k1l> ubuntu__: again: what exact issue do you have?
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu__: at least, not necessarily
[20:45] <ubuntu__> where is it located in memory or /proc i don't see it any where  forgetting the source it must compile directly into the kernel , be an LKM
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu__: you need to read the source.
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu__: please, just do that.
[20:46] <bekks> ubuntu__: Can you read what I am writing to you?
[20:46] <ikonia> it's been the same for days
[20:46] <k1l> ubuntu__: last time now: what is your exact issue?
[20:46] <ikonia> random questions with no understanding
[20:46] <ikonia> while people try to get the problem out of him
[20:46] <ubuntu__> not in proc/modules either
[20:46] <k1l> ubuntu__: or is it you just seeing things and asking in the wrong places.
[20:46] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what is the problem you are trying to fix
[20:46] <ikonia> ubuntu__: please state it clearly
[20:46] <ikonia> we are not doing your meta-discussion stuff again
[20:46] <OerHeks> we are doing his homework, i guess.
[20:46] <ubuntu__> yes but what is the  0 inteldrmfb is it the name of the module , file , function , what
[20:47] <bekks> ubuntu__: I told you.
[20:47] <nacc> ubuntu__: i literally just told you.
[20:47] <nacc> as did bekks
[20:47] <ikonia> ubuntu__: I'm going to send you a pm - you can't speak at the moment in the channel
[20:48] <k1l> ubuntu__: i dont think you understand what you are asking here. but i suggest you start here:http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/fb/intelfb.txt?id=HEAD
[20:48] <nacc> tatertots: so i'd assume it's an installation issue
[20:48] <tatertots> yeah that's what i'm thinking too nacc
[20:48] <CheeDinksi> tatertots: ubuntu.com must be having issues, i can barely load a page much less dl an image
[20:48] <nacc> tatertots: i'd check the status of the -extra packages on CheeDinksi's machine
[20:49] <nacc> tatertots: make sure it's installed and lists the right files are included (dpkg -L)
[20:50] <CheeDinksi> nacc: was the above installation issue in regards to my mess?
[20:51] <tatertots> hmmm
[20:51] <tatertots> this page pulled up pretty fast for me   http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[20:51] <CheeDinksi> Maybe on our end then...that would make sense, considering the IT roll I'm on...
[20:51] <CheeDinksi> A plane should be crashing into out building in 3, 2, 1...
[20:52] <CheeDinksi> our*
[20:52] <tatertots> lol
[20:52] <CheeDinksi> Before I make the walk back across the plant...i noticed 16.xx, 14.xx and 12.xx available, were you suggesting 16 or 12, or a newer 14.xx version
[20:53] <tatertots> a newer 14.x or 16 would be ideal
[20:53] <CheeDinksi> Ok
[20:54] <vivekp> Just wanted to share this from first hand experience for people who might be interested -- Ubuntu 16.04  (vanilla) is  faster than every other flavour you could try. Take my word for it.
[20:54] <louiz> faster, when?
[20:54] <ikonia> thats just nonsense
[20:55] <vivekp> But high RAM usage issue still persists
[20:55] <ikonia> nope
[20:55] <vivekp> No nonsense
[20:55] <ikonia> vivekp: how did you measure this
[20:55] <louiz> same question
[20:55] <ikonia> vivekp: how have you accounted for hardware and confiuration varidation
[20:55] <tatertots> faster is subjective
[20:55] <nacc> vivekp: that's an opinion, offtopic.
[20:55] <vivekp> I've tried most of the flavour by myself on the same machine
[20:55] <ikonia> vivekp: thats not a measure
[20:55]  * nacc sighs
[20:55] <tatertots> the porche only beats the ford f-250 in the race when 2 tons isn't attached to the back of both vehicles
[20:55] <nacc> CheeDinksi: yeah, was a suggestion to see why btusb is msising
[20:56] <tatertots> sorry for the analogy
[20:56] <tatertots> attach a 2 ton weight to the back of both cars and the ford f-250 wins that race
[20:56] <vivekp> I know it's off-topic thats why I said "for people who might be interested"
[20:56] <makinen> How do I install the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[20:57] <k1l> !ot
[20:57] <nacc> vivekp: that's why there is an #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:57] <vivekp> And I just wanted to share what I experienced
[20:58] <vivekp> nacc: oh, okay. Never knew about that channel.
[20:58] <makinen> I've installed nvidia-304 package but 'grep nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log' gives me nothing
[20:59] <k1l> makinen: rebooted?
[20:59] <makinen> I killed sddm
[21:00] <tatertots> some of u guys have really cool screen names.....i feel like my screen name isn't that cool...it's just tatertots....i do like tater tots though :P
[21:00] <danileigh79> during dist upgrade, info box came up regarding restarting services with new packages and gives me choice of yes or no. I can't select select yes due to left cursor key not working (faulty keyboard), and mouse won't work in infobox. are there any alternatives? (Dell Latitude D530 without Numpad)
[21:00] <makinen> it killed the x server but he new nvidia driver isn't recognized automatically
[21:00] <makinen> the*
[21:01] <cspack> danileigh79: tab key?
[21:01] <vivekp> tatertots: !ot
[21:01] <vivekp>  !ot | tatertots
[21:02] <danileigh79> cspack: thanks, didn't work though
[21:03] <makinen> according to arch wiki I need add a section for nvidia to xorg.conf :F
[21:03] <k1l> makinen: usually you dont on ubuntu
[21:04] <k1l> please try a reboot first to be sure
[21:05] <cspack> danileigh79: do you have a usb keyboard you can plug in? otherwise, just reboot after upgrade is done
[21:06] <danileigh79> cspack: No, no usb keyboard. I'll just reboot after upgrade as you say. Thanks for the help
[21:16] <CheeDinksi> Be right back with 16.04 Live...
[21:18] <steven_> is there a way to force install the base system?
[21:18] <steven_> or a list of packages ?
[21:18] <steven_> my installation is completely broken and I was thinking maybe there was a way to force install the core rather than reinstalling the OS
[21:19] <ikonia> define whats wrong with it
[21:19] <steven_> its completely broken
[21:19] <ikonia> define completely broken
[21:20] <steven_> dpkg throws errors on pretty much every action because "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration"
[21:20] <bekks> steven_: that just one line out of a lot of lines.
[21:21] <steven_> that is the error line bekks :)
[21:21] <bekks> steven_: Pastebin the entire output and provide the URL please.
[21:21] <bekks> steven_: Provide the entire output please.
[21:21] <ikonia> steven_: first tell us the problem, eg: can it not boot, does it crash, you can't install something, you can't remove it
[21:21] <ikonia> then put the details if it's a long set of lines in a pastebin and share the url
[21:22] <steven_> sure, gimme a sec
[21:22] <steven_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17768703/
[21:22] <steven_> apt-get install toilet ^
[21:23] <ikonia> so that doens't look fatal,
[21:24] <bekks> But outdated I guess.
[21:24] <ikonia> and to be honest, how would you do "base reinstall" if you can't use the pacakge manager
[21:24] <ikonia> 3.13 kernel jump to 4.4
[21:24] <ikonia> seems odd
[21:24] <bekks> Yeah.
[21:24] <nacc> steven_: lsb_release -a?
[21:24] <ikonia> I'd do an autoclean and see where that errors
[21:25] <steven_> given that dpkg throws a dependency error I'd assume at some point it messed up dependencies. so one would think reinstalling the base system would reinstall all dependencies
[21:25] <ikonia> then I'd query what release and no doubt what PPA has been installed
[21:25] <ikonia> steven_: how can you re-install if the package manager is blocked
[21:25] <steven_> its xenial
[21:25] <k1l> the question is what happened when the kernel install didnt work
[21:25] <ikonia> it can't be xenial can it ?
[21:25] <makinen> k1l: no luck. now this just fallbacks to 640x480 vesa driver or something like that :P
[21:25] <ikonia> it had a 3 kernel