[00:17] <kinghat> use yakuake or guake or something else for desktop?
[01:46] <eelstrebor> anyone know what causes this: fwupd[3794]: 15:03:34:0049 FuPluginUefi         failed
[01:46] <eelstrebor> it seems that it only happens on ubuntu 20.04
[01:50] <sarnold> eelstrebor: wild guess, try sudo fwupdmgr refresh ; sudo fwupdmgr upgrade   -- maybe that'll emit an error message right there, maybe it'll just work.
[01:57] <eelstrebor> sudo fwupdmgr upgrade
[01:58] <eelstrebor> oops
[02:50] <Intelo> Any irc client for terminal that has channel menu/visibility like hexchat? https://hexchat.github.io/img/screenshot-windows.png
[02:50] <Woet> Intelo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WeeChat#/media/File:Weechat_032_default_config.png
[02:56] <Intelo> Woet, thanks. I think irssi don't have the channel menu
[03:02] <sarnold> worse, I think there's half-dozen scripts you can use to get something similar https://scripts.irssi.org/
[03:14] <shinobi_> how can I add a program icon to Applications?
[03:56] <MannyLNJ> I'm running a Ubuntu 20.04 host. I want to run PfSense on a KVM Virtual Machine. My server has 4 ethernet ports en01 to en04. My cable modem goes into en01 and I have en04 going to an unmanged switch what do I use as my host device in network selection?
[04:08] <isolier> I would bridge the ethernet ports or even pass through.
[04:13] <FattyAcid> anyone have any guesses why in xfce when trying to select a new icon, they turn black when i select them in the icon menu?
[04:13] <FattyAcid> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/481728436/Screenshot_2020-05-28_00-21-12.png
[04:18] <warsoul> 10 packages can be updated.
[04:18] <warsoul> 8 updates are security updates.
[04:18] <warsoul> i did update/upgrade still im getting this message when log in to box
[04:20] <warsoul> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:20] <warsoul>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic netplan.io
[04:20] <warsoul> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[04:20] <warsoul> thats after: apt-get upgrade
[04:37] <TheShagg> Question: I used DD to make an image of a partitioned drive (/dev/sda), and now "fdisk -l" and "losetup" can't see the partitions, yet "testdisk /list" can?
[04:37] <TheShagg> I checked the md5sum of the first 100 sectors in the drive and the image and they are the same
[04:41] <TheShagg> Oh, my dd image may be 1 sector too short
[04:58] <TheShagg> hrm, adding in the last sector of the last partition didn't seem to help
[05:01] <jcb2016> hi all im trying to install windows 10 onto my sons laptop but for some reason the installer dosen't see the hard drive. i ran the ubuntu disk util on the drive and it says DISK IS LIKELY TO FAIL SOON
[05:01] <jcb2016> is this a hardware issue or can ubuntu fix the drive?
[05:09] <aeplus> jcb2016, likely hardware issue... but, maybe you don't care about data loss and would like to proceed... in that case, are you planning to dual boot?
[05:12] <TheShagg> For my issue, it turns out that partition tools get confused if the end of the disk data is missing, because GPT partitions store info at the beginning and end of the disk
[05:13] <TheShagg> not sure if I agree that is a good idea, but so be it :P
[05:26] <aeplus> TheShagg, does the target drive have enough space for the secondary gpt?
[05:37] <TheShagg> aeplus: I was just being stupid and specified the number of bytes to copy (and it wasn't enough to get to the end of the drive)
[05:37] <TheShagg> I fixed it
[05:37] <TheShagg> I'm saving the file to an image file instead of directly to a block device
[06:09] <imi> hi, how do I get the sources for a package that comes from a snap? I think apt-get source won't work
[06:20] <matsaman> imi: the source code for the applications, or just the data that the snap provides?
[06:20] <TJ-> imi: You have to chase up each individual snap publisher for it, if it exists at all.
[06:25] <matsaman> imi: yeah I mean, it's basically just a filesystem full of stupid binaries
[06:25] <imi> Mathisen: the source code. if I want to recompile
[06:26] <matsaman> if you unsquashfs it, you can see what's inside, at least
[06:26] <matsaman> then track down source upstreams
[06:26] <imi> does the package contain the publisher at least?
[06:27] <matsaman> there's no guarantee of that, but it'll probably be lousy with it as a string
[06:28] <imi> ok where do I  find the file I need to unsquashfs?
[06:29] <imi> what does nsfs mean?
[06:29] <matsaman> which snap package are we talking about?
[06:29] <imi> right now we're talking about the minetest snap package :)
[06:29] <matsaman> nsfs? What's the context?
[06:30] <imi> mount|grep minetest
[06:30] <imi> nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/minetest-luk3yx.mnt type nsfs (rw)
[06:30] <matsaman> imi: what, this? https://snapcraft.io/mc-installer
[06:31] <imi> mineTEST not mineCRAFT
[06:31] <matsaman> imi: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/465669/what-is-the-nsfs-filesystem
[06:31]  * matsaman sighs
[06:32] <matsaman> so are you talking about this, then? https://snapcraft.io/minetest
[06:32] <matsaman> or do I have to pry some other information out of you?
[06:32] <imi> matsaman: no thanks
[06:33] <matsaman> imi: curl -sH 'Snap-Device-Series: 16' http://api.snapcraft.io/v2/snaps/info/minetest | python -m json.tool | egrep -i '://'
[06:33] <doomlist3> apt update to check for updates but how does ubuntu check for updates and tell me -it's a nice system
[06:33] <matsaman> doomlist3: the automated update system, you mean?
[06:34] <doomlist3> apt update; and then if that is what it does, then apt install will destroy the thing... matsaman yes but ubuntu merely checks for updates before reminding the user
[06:34] <doomlist3> it's like running apt update??
[06:34] <doomlist3> but what if the user installs pkg then the dep tree is inconsistent?
[06:35] <imi> seems like I have Minetest (luk3yx's unofficial builds)
[06:36] <doomlist3> matsaman: so internally which cmd does ubuntu run to check updates
[06:36] <matsaman> doomlist3: I think there's an apt-get upgrade --dry-run, or apt list --upgradable
[06:36] <matsaman> doomlist3: to know for sure what Ubuntu's actual updater runs, you'd have to look at its source
[06:37] <matsaman> imi: in the snap? Cool
[06:37] <imi> yes
[06:37] <imi> however I want to provide a patch upstream. I have a feature in mind that I'm convinced I would be able to develop
[06:39] <matsaman> well I'd check the open & closed issues/bugs first, y'know, and the upstream trunk, to be sure it hasn't been done already, or shut down, etc.
[06:40] <matsaman> and if not, just submit a bug and your patch and probably people will appreciate it
[06:45] <imi> yes, that's where I'm stuck: in order to do so I need to be able to get and compile the sources
[06:46] <matsaman> oh, well, just type in luk3yx minetest sourc
[06:47] <matsaman> https://github.com/luk3yx/minetest forked from https://github.com/minetest/minetest
[06:48] <doomlist3> man apt-get no such word upgradable? Mathisen
[06:48] <doomlist3> apt list --upgradable ?
[07:02] <imi> how do I know whether libjpeg62 or libjpeg9 is the later version?
[07:10] <InnovAnon-Inc> apt-cache show libjpeg{62,9}|grep Version => 1:6b2-3 and 1:9b-2, respectively. Looks like libjpeg62 is version 1.6 and libjpeg9 is version 1.9
[07:22] <Notum> Ive created a NFS share on a windows server and trying to mount it to my ubuntu VM with 'sudo mount -o nfsvers=3 servername:/ocp /mnt/testmount/'. It seems to work but after mounting i cant access the /mnt/testmount folder, i get cd: testmount/: Input/output error. Any idea why that is?
[08:12] <jmcvaughn>  /away
[08:23] <Mick2160> test
[08:24] <gryffus> Please could anyone review and remove redundant lines from my preseed.cfg? https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/14241239
[08:24] <Mick2160>  Hi, I've installed lateset version of ubuntu for desktop along side with windows and I have got two issues: 1- Not able to control brightness. 2- Screen colors are not as good as windows.. also it doesnt feel smooth as windows. Please advice
[08:25] <gryffus> I am not sure what is the difference between partman-auto/automatically_partition and partman-auto/init_automatically_partition, between partman-auto/disk and partman-auto/select_disk and so on...
[08:27] <Mick2160> Anyone here experienced the same issues?
[08:50] <doomlist3> whatis apt-get install package =target what could be target value
[08:50] <doomlist3> just like version where is target value applicable
[08:52] <doomlist3> $ sudo apt-get install  python3=3.8
[08:53] <EriC^^> Mick2160: maybe some acpi stuff can help?
[08:53] <doomlist3> what's the write way to write the version it says version not found
[08:53] <doomlist3> EriC^^: hi
[08:53] <EriC^^> Mick2160: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[08:53] <EriC^^> doomlist3: the whole version
[08:54] <doomlist3> EriC^^: which whole? 3.8... need autocompletion
[08:55] <doomlist3> don't know what to give
[08:55] <doomlist3> exactly
[08:55] <doomlist3> EriC^^: there is none in 3.8 autocompletion but 3.6... has two versions
[08:56] <doomlist3> python3.8/bionic-updates,now 3.8.0-3~18.04 amd64
[08:56] <doomlist3> upon apt search python3.8 ;
[09:05] <ocean> doomlist3: what is it exactly that you are trying to do? What is your question?
[09:06] <doomlist3> python3.8
[09:06] <doomlist3> python3=versionnumber
[09:06] <ocean> that is not a question
[09:06] <doomlist3> and also how to use target realse optoin
[09:06] <doomlist3> apt-get install python3=target-release.... what's the example in which iit works
[09:06] <ocean> !info python3.8 bionic
[09:07] <ocean> the package/release is 3.8 in bionic
[09:08] <doomlist3> in example how to use python3=xxx
[09:08] <ocean> doomlist3: no, that is not an option. 3.8 is the release in bionic.
[09:09] <doomlist3> in man apt-get if i want to search au*c matches show package word but au is not what is present in my regex
[09:11] <ocean> doomlist3: again, that is not an actual question, tell (the channel) what you are trying to accomplish
[09:16] <doomlist3> user@host:~$ apt-cache madison python3
[09:16] <doomlist3>    python3 | 3.6.7-1~18.04 | http://es-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 Packages
[09:16] <doomlist3>    python3 |    3.6.5-3 | http://es-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages
[09:16] <doomlist3> why can't i see python3.8 there
[09:16] <doomlist3> ocean: why
[09:20] <ocean> doomlist3: because you are searching for "python3", and not "python3.8"   apt-cache madison python3.8
[09:21] <doomlist3> ocean: but how'd i know the various version names in the first place
[09:21] <doomlist3> do i need regex
[09:22] <doomlist3> sudo apt-get install  python3=3.8.0-3~18.04 ;version not found??
[09:24] <ocean> no, the package name is python3.8, sudo apt-get install python3.8
[09:24] <ocean> no target specification needed
[11:05] <pizzaburger> Hi! My speakers connected via AUX cable emit a buzzing noise until any sound is played. This is not present when "live booting" aka. trying Ubuntu without installing. Running 20.04 LTS. Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? Thanks!
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> !sound | pizzaburger start here
[11:11] <pizzaburger> lotuspsychje thanks!
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> pizzaburger: another test could be installing pavucontrol and test your audio issue there
[11:17] <ice9> does Canonical has plans for encrypting /boot with full disk encryption during Ubuntu installation out of the box?
[11:18] <ph88> what's the difference between a dist upgrade and a release upgrade ?
[11:19] <ocean> ph88: a release upgrade results in a new release, a dist-upgrade is a way of updating packages *within* a release
[11:19] <ph88> hi ocean
[11:19] <ph88> i'm on 19.10 and i would like to upgrade to 20.04 ... it it possible to enable 3rd party repositories ?
[11:20] <ocean> a dist-upgrade being a specific option to upgrade: it handles dependencies with new versions of packages
[11:20] <ocean> ph88: well, during a release upgrade, all 3rd party repos are disabled, that's the way it is done. But afterwards you can re-enable the repos and upgrade the packages belonging to that repo
[11:21] <ph88> ok
[11:21] <ocean> you'll find the disabled repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d,  renamed as ".save" (or similar)
[11:21] <ph88> i just remember it was a pain last time to re-enable all those 3rd party repos
[11:21] <ph88> ok
[11:21] <ph88> is there any difference between the command line and the gui for upgrading ?
[11:21] <ocean> ph88: well, not in the result, no
[11:22] <ph88> i'll go upgrade now then, see ya
[11:42] <woenx> Hi. does anyone know if it's possible to search and install flatpak packages from Ubuntu's software center?
[11:42] <raub> About my issue yesterday (could not partition drive during install in ubuntu 16, 18. 20 just did not like me), I was able to get said drive partitioned (/boot and lvm for the rest) in centos8 just now. As soon as it reboots I will be setting it up so I can continue using ansible.
[11:42] <raub> Thanks for all the help!
[11:43] <woenx> I followed these instructions, but I can't seem to find anything https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/02/how-to-install-flatpak-on-ubuntu-flathub
[11:43] <raub> I should be able to achieve what I originally was trying to using ubuntu as a vm guest
[11:45] <woenx> ahh, I just now realized there are two software centers in ubuntu 20.04
[11:45] <woenx> the one from ubuntu and the one from gnome, apparently
[11:46] <woenx> it's confusing, both are neartly identical, and have the same version. but the logo and the layout are different.
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> woenx: 20.04 uses the snap-store now, gnome-software is optional to install
[11:48] <woenx> ok, snap store is labelled as "Ubuntu Software", right?
[11:48] <woenx> but gnome-software seems to also be installed in my system
[11:48] <woenx> (i might have installed it manually, but I don't remember doing that)
[11:48] <woenx> both are version 3.36.0
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> woenx: that could be due to a bug during the development of 20.04, your system should only have snap-store now
[11:49] <woenx> aha
[11:49] <ioria> i don't think snap-store supports flatpak plugin
[11:49] <woenx> ahm
[11:49] <woenx> too bad
[11:50] <ioria> so, you might need to remove snap-store and user gnome-software +  plugin
[11:50] <woenx> ok. another question. in order to update snap packages, it has to be done through the snap-store, no? (I mean, a simple apt upgrade won't do)
[11:51] <woenx> but if I remove the snap-store I lose access to the snap repository, no?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> woenx: 20.04 now has an auto snap update at the end of update-manager gui
[11:51] <woenx> ok
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> woenx: as long as you have snapd, you can still install snaps commandline
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> sudo snap install ...
[11:52] <woenx> Mmm, so basically, if I don't want redundant software managers, I have either chose if I want to install snap or flatpak manually
[11:53] <woenx> I'll leave things as they are and remove the store support from flatpak. I think it will be cleaner for ubuntu
[11:53] <woenx> but it would be great if the gnome-software-plugin-flatpak worked for the snap-store too
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> woenx: both snap-store and gnome-software dont fight with each other, you can use them togheter?
[11:54] <woenx> yeah, but I just wanted flatpak for one single package. I think it's not worth that much overhead for something I could run on the command line
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> the users choice
[11:55] <woenx> but if flatpak was compatible withe the default software center, then i would not mind
[11:55] <woenx> thanks though
[12:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:43] <admin0> can anyone let me know what to put in the /etc/subuid, subgid if i want a userid 999 of lxd to be able to modify mounted files (where its owner in host is 998) .. so basically allow 999 in lxd  to write 998 of host mounted filesystem
[12:43] <admin0> and what to do after that change is done ? should any host, container needs to be rebooted
[13:01] <viktor_> Hi. i installed ubuntu server 20.04 on a desktop which i'd like to use as a file server but also want to hook up to my tv to watch movies. i installed xubuntu as a GUI with lightdm. but it doesn't detect my tv anymore nor the other way around. any ideas?
[13:05] <vlt> viktor_: Anymore? Did it before? How is the TV connected?
[13:06] <viktor_> vlt, sorry, didn't mention, it's HDMI. worked before with the same desktop, but it had regular linux mint cinnamon installed.
[13:07] <leftyfb> viktor_: why not just install ubuntu from scratch?
[13:07] <leftyfb> viktor_: Not sure why you installed server when you wanted a desktop environment
[13:08] <viktor_> leftyfb, well, planning to use it as a file server as well, and since i haven't set up a server yet i thought it was a good idea to just install the server edition
[13:09] <leftyfb> viktor_: the only difference between server and desktop is the desktop being installed. You want a desktop, so install the desktop release.
[13:11] <viktor_> leftyfb: ok, i'll do that then. but shouldn't it work after i installed the desktop on the server?
[13:13] <vlt> viktor_: What does `xrandr` say about your devices?
[13:15] <viktor_> vlt, xrandr: HDMI is disconnected
[13:28] <mbeierl> If I have an interface (like a ppp) that comes up on demand, can I use netplan to configure a static route when it comes up?
[13:31] <ELFrederich> any way to merge this "Activities" bar with the dock?  I put my dock on the bottom but the activities is on top.  Both of these bars are relatively empty, so they're just hogging vertical space
[13:33] <ogra> ELFrederich, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1160/dash-to-panel/ ?
[13:33] <leftyfb> mbeierl: how does the ppp interface come up?
[13:35] <ELFrederich> ogra: nice... that seems to work.  I really like this Dash to Dock extension, think it looks better with the Intelligent autohide.  But it can't merge the dash.  Seems only Dash to Panel can.
[13:55] <webmind> Saviq: ah thanks, my host however isn't ubuntu
[13:55] <Saviq> webmind: it doesn't have to be
[13:56] <Saviq> we support everything snapd supports: https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snapd as well as Windows and macOS
[13:56] <webmind> Saviq: hmm ok.
[13:57] <webmind> Still a bit snap sceptical and not wanting to keep changing vm enviroments. so I think I'll stick with iso's if I need an ubuntu env.
[14:05] <Saviq> webmind: your call, note that it takes seconds to launch a new instance with Multipass, vs. the time it takes to create and install from ISO
[14:06] <Saviq> webmind: you mentioned you're using virt-manager? FWIW you could just use Multipass to do the launching and everything else through virt-manager
[14:06] <webmind> ok
[14:06] <webmind> I'll consider it next time I run into it
[14:35] <kinghat> is anyone using yakuake on ubuntu desktop 20.04?
[14:46] <leftyfb> kinghat: do you have a support question?
[14:50] <Aktive> hello
[14:50] <Aktive> My ubuntu doesnt remember my screen scaling when I restart
[14:50] <Aktive> it wasnt always like that
[14:50] <Aktive> I use 200% scaling
[14:51] <Aktive> how can I make it remember
[15:02] <warsoul> 10 packages can be updated.
[15:02] <warsoul> 8 updates are security updates.
[15:02] <warsoul> i still see this in my box
[15:02] <warsoul> after i apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[15:11] <kinghat> leftyfb: just wondering what the best way to get yakuake like terminal on desktop. is there a gnome specific one?
[15:12] <leftyfb> kinghat: try #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions
[15:12] <warsoul> lotuspsychje thanks mate :)
[15:17] <n-iCe> hello
[15:19] <shinobi__> My wifi keeps dropping in 20.04 and I need to reselect the wireless network every time. Anyone else?
[15:21] <n-iCe> shinobi__: no, which card
[15:23] <BluesKaj> kinghat,  gnome equivalent of yakuake is guake.
[15:31] <gil> Hi - Can anyone tell me if it is possible that my server hosting provider can override what kernel I use in Ubuntu 18.04?
[15:31] <shinobi__> n-iCe: x570 tai chi onboard
[15:32] <Malgorath> Hey all, I been odd as I wanted to just mess with ubuntu on my laptop so I made a fully working OS on a 64G Usb 3.1 drive and it works fine and all but I want to copy the entire install now to my hard drive, is this more of a I'm suddenly building my own distro and I gotta figure that out or is this something I can just dd or pigz/tar some stuff up?
[15:33] <Malgorath> Like I spent a week just getting my theme right alone, so I got some time in this and don't want to loose the setup..
[15:34] <gil> copy the /home directory?
[15:35] <Malgorath> I have a lot of applications installed already and not everything is in /home
[15:35] <Malgorath> gil, as I said I want to know if there is an easy way to do this before I reinvent the wheel
[15:36] <gil> All of your configuration stuff will be in /home
[15:36] <leftyfb> Malgorath: there's no supported way of doing this
[15:36] <leftyfb> Malgorath: your time would be better spent documenting or scripting your customizations
[15:38] <Malgorath> leftyfb, my initial reason for this was to have a portable OS presetup for me to be able to just put on most machines and have the ability to do what I need. THe only thing I didn't think through was the USB actual size, its 2.5 inches long off the side of my laptop and I hit it with my leg all the time and I'm worried I'll break the plug ... perhaps I should clonezilla backup the ison and get a new smaller one instead
[15:39] <Malgorath> er backup the one its on
[15:39] <leftyfb> Malgorath: your first post above says you want to copy the install to your hard drive.
[15:39] <shinobi__> n-iCe: It keeps asking for the wifi password every so often. It's defaulted in the password field, but I have to hit ok. That's basically forcing me to use the console as I can't ssh or vnc in.
[15:40] <Malgorath> leftyfb, I do cause its just lovely to me, but I also still need to solve problem 2 but thats not really needed, I just guess it was a random additional info that wasn't needed really.
[15:40] <akik> gil: some hosting providers use technology that shares the kernel from the host to your machine. do you experience that the kernel update you installed didn't match what you have in the boot menu?
[15:41] <n-iCe> shinobi__: what card
[15:41] <leftyfb> Malgorath: again, document/script your customizations. It sounds like that will be the most useful thing to you going forward
[15:41] <gil> akik yes - I think I've put everything pertinent here: https://pastebin.com/iD49sri4
[15:42] <gil> akik it even says<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in the kernel dmesg
[15:42] <Malgorath> I figured, was hoping there was a simple way but I guess time to hit the history file and start looking at copying files and doing a makefile/bash script to install and I guess do it right and put it on git >.<
[15:42] <Malgorath> god, making me do things right... god
[15:42]  * Malgorath rolls eyes
[15:43] <Aktive> My ubuntu 20.04 lts, doesnt remember my screen scaling setting when I restart. It wasnt always like that.I use 200% scaling
[15:43] <leftyfb> Malgorath: You could also look into something like ansible
[15:43] <akik> gil: do you see that kernel in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[15:44] <shinobi__> n-iCe: I don't understand your question. There is no wifi "card". I'm using the MB's onboard wifi. MB is a x570 tai chi
 I run Ubuntu 20.04 on WSL2 how do I enable a GUI ?
[15:45] <gil> akik nope. Not one mention
[15:46] <akik> gil: which ovh product did you buy?
[15:46] <Malgorath> analogical, 2 things, you can not run it natively you must us a remote X server connection (basically RDP)
[15:47] <Malgorath> analogical, 2. Don't do it on WSL2, the drive r/w speed is still incredible slow
[15:48] <gil> akik it's just a cheap kimsufi server that I play with - the product is KS-7 on this list: https://www.kimsufi.com/en/servers.xml . It's not mission critical, more something that I play and learn on. It's surprising to me though that they can completely override my OS on it.
[15:49] <akik> Malgorath: using gui apps on wsl 1 already works fine
[15:49] <leftyfb> akik: only with an X server
[15:49] <akik> i know
[15:50] <akik> gil: can you install virt-what application?
[15:50] <akik> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/virt-what.1.html
[15:51] <analogical> Malgorath, WSL1 is slow but WSL2 is very fast
[15:51] <Malgorath> akik, also install mysql import a 1.5M lines into 230 tables, run queries for 14 hours straight only to find the drive runs about 20-25% speed in WSL, was able to do matching queries in Ubuntu 18.04 and WLS2 18.04 and iotop confirms its about 25% speed compared to live.  Its fine for dabbling, but don't go hard core with it
[15:53] <akik> Malgorath: analogical just wanted to get the gui running
[15:53] <Malgorath> akik, I said how, just also warned about poor performance
[15:53] <akik> using the gui works fine
[15:56] <analogical> akik, I've installed Ubuntu 20.04 app from the microsoft store but that version doesn't have gui support is there a way to enable a gui?
[15:57] <shinobi__> n-iCe: It seems to disconnect and then I have to manually
[15:57] <akik> analogical: microsoft doesn't support it, but if you install a x windows server on windows side and set the DISPLAY variable in wsl, it just magically works
[15:58] <akik> analogical: you should read a guide on how to set it up
[15:58] <analogical> akik, how is the performance?
[15:58] <akik> analogical: the gui works fine
[15:58] <akik> analogical: the guide i followed used xfce in wsl
[15:59] <analogical> could you please link to that guide? :D
[15:59] <akik> analogical: i'll see if i can find it
[15:59] <akik> analogical: it was in my bookmarks: https://solarianprogrammer.com/2017/04/16/windows-susbsystem-for-linux-xfce-4/
[16:00] <akik> as you can see it was already possible in 2017
[16:00] <akik> that guide doesn't include some settings i've seen used after that but you can find them yourself by searachiing
[16:00] <akik> searching
[16:01] <akik> i think it's missing dbus and pulseaudio
[16:03] <analogical> thanks
[16:04] <akik> analogical: i had also bookmarked this video but it's a bit long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKCe9UE-quA (it describes the pulseaudio setup though)
[16:06] <gil> akik I installed it, but not sure how to use it - sudo virt-what provides no output
[16:07] <gil> oh wait - apparently that means it's on bare metal?
[16:07] <akik> gil: well that's a bit surprising then
[16:08] <akik> gil: what does "sudo dmidecode -t 1" say?
[16:12] <analogical> akik, thanks again :)
[16:14] <shinobi__> How can I add a program to the applications menu. I installed electrum via python and it has an icon on the dash when I launch via CL, but I cannot see it in applications.
[16:14] <shinobi__> Sorry Activities menu
[16:18] <akik> shinobi__: you'd need to have the .desktop file for it and install that
[16:19] <akik> shinobi__: system wide directory /usr/share/applications, user directory ~/.local/share/applications
[16:26] <gil> akik apologies.. crashed. What was that last command?
[16:27] <akik> gil: sudo dmidecode -t 1
[16:27] <akik> gil: that'll show what your system sees the underlying hardware where it's running on
[16:28] <gil> akik thank you. https://pastebin.com/EbZWF0Ds
[16:29] <akik> woah empty
[16:29] <akik> i think it's some special setup you have there
[16:29] <gil> akik unless ovh are using some bespoke virtualisation that virt-what can't detect?
[16:29] <gil> yeah exactly
[16:30] <gil> so my concern is, if they are able to seamlessly mess with my kernel, what else are they modifying on the fly?
[16:30] <akik> gil: what about /proc/self/cgroup ?
[16:32] <gil> akik https://pastebin.com/GBp7dhxR
[16:32] <akik> gil: sorry i don't know what that is
[16:32] <akik> gil: it would show docker in those lines if it was a docker container
[16:33] <akik> virt-what would show lxc if it was a lxc container
[16:33] <akik> vms on some cloud providers would show kvm
[16:34] <gil> akik np - my main takeaway from this is that I haven't done something funky with the kernels (I was playing around with hwe and live patching ealier and thought I may have borked it)
[16:34] <gil> it's annoying to me because apparently I'm running on a rescue kernel and I can't do anything to fix that
[16:34] <gil> but.... buy cheap, get cheap I suppose :D
[16:35] <akik> gil: why does the kernel version say "rescue" ?
[16:35] <akik> gil: https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/dedicated-servers/systeme_rescue.xml
[16:35] <gil> akik I have no idea. That's what triggered all of this. The version of the kernel is not a kernel that I've installed. Dmesg refers to ovh.com so I'm assuming that's what they are giving me
[16:36] <akik> gil: maybe there's some error that happened and now it's only able to boot into some rescue mode
[16:36] <akik> gil: i'd contact ovh support
[16:36] <gil> akik it's really weird though because it's basically a stock 18.04 installation. I've not really done anything whacky with it at all
[16:37] <gil> akik I appreciate the time you spent walking through this with me. Thank you
[17:05] <StevenJayCohen> Touchpad suddenly stopped working - Ubuntu 20.04 - Dell 7290 - Was working fine, then suddenly stopped
[17:06] <StevenJayCohen> Keyboard works, and external USB mouse works
[17:23] <spagettios> StevenJayCohen, sorted yet
[17:32] <StevenJayCohen> no
[17:32] <StevenJayCohen> sorry for slow reply
[17:42] <spagettios> got a dual boot or anything can you clean install
[17:42] <spagettios> or run the live usb and see if problem persist
[17:46] <BT40> will try downloading sstate files with firefox. In commandline, it failed 5 times after 15-20%. Always started from scratch instead of resuming download. Hope firefox can fix this    :)
[17:52] <spagettios> get a download manager or use wget or curl from terminal
[17:54] <InnovAnon-Inc> ^^^ PAGER=cat man wget | grep -e --continue
[17:54] <spagettios> BT40 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/turbo-download-manager/?src=search
[18:03] <shinobi> any known issues with Intel Wifi 6 AX200? I'm using drive iwlwifi and it keeps dropping and asking for the wifi password again.
[18:06] <spagettios> can you login to the router
[18:07] <shinobi> Is that to me or are you referencing someone previously?
[18:07] <spagettios> shinobi, you mate =), also what band are you using?
[18:08] <shinobi> Spagettios - Yes, I can log into the router.   band?   You mean b,g,n or channel?
[18:09] <spagettios> tried changing the channel perhaps to many other routers devices nearby arps all over the place
[18:10] <spagettios> i meant 2.4GHz and 5GHz
[18:10] <shinobi> I'm running g/n, with 20mhz bandwidth on channel 2.
[18:10] <spagettios> have you got a dual band router
[18:10] <shinobi> All other devices stay connected.
[18:11] <shinobi> interference shows as "acceptable"
[18:13] <shinobi> spegettios - I'm sorry, wifi is not my strong spot.It's got 2.4 and 5 ghz
[18:13] <shinobi> BUT they are both runnning over the same SSID
[18:15] <shinobi> The 5ghz band is on channel 149
[18:15] <spagettios> try connecting to the 2.4 if connection keeps dropping out,if you havn't already
[18:16] <spagettios> supposed to have more range
[18:16] <spagettios> but a little slower,not that you will notice, i didn
[18:17] <spagettios> how you measuring interference
[18:17] <spagettios> some mobile app or linux based
[18:23] <spagettios> when you search for a wifi 'AP' (the name of your wifi connection) there is likely two with nearly the same name you can connect to perhaps 3 if guest mode is enabled
[18:27] <frad> what command could I run to get information about my isp? like the name
[18:30] <younder> uname -a
[18:30] <frad> no, thats my kern
[18:31] <frad> found it, thanks
[18:35] <younder> fraud: yeah sorry. brainfart. I use from the browser whatsmyip.com
[18:38] <StevenJayCohen> More info: Dell 7290 Touchpad on 20.04 suddenly stops working. Found this in log - "i2c_designware i2c_designware.1: controller timed out"  How can I revert to the kernel easily to check if the previous version had this issue? (I think the problem started after the last kernel update. If I can confirm, I'll report the regression)
[18:40] <younder> StevenJayCohen, When booting press the escape key to get the boot menu. Then select the second last kernel.
[18:41] <StevenJayCohen> younder: Thanks, kinda rough day. I'm forgetting stuff and can't sleep. So, I apologize for basic questions. Will do that then report back.
[18:46] <StevenJayCohen> younder: It looks like I autoremoved the last kernel already. What can I do?
[18:47] <supastupid> Hello, I am trying to connect my Xbox controller (via Bluetooth) but when i connect it it says Connected for a brief moment and then disconnects.
[18:51] <younder> StevenJayCohen, Auto-remove doesn't remove all images but the last. In stead of escape try shift repeatedly on boot.
[18:52] <supastupid> Also through Gnome Settings, that's something to note
[18:54] <StevenJayCohen> younder: will do
[18:55] <supastupid> Sometimes it doesn't connect at all
[19:00] <supastupid> Can someone help
[19:01] <n-iCe> supastupid: what's your problem?
[19:01] <supastupid> Hello, I am trying to connect my Xbox controller (via Bluetooth) but when i connect it it says Connected for a brief moment and then disconnects.
[19:01] <supastupid> ^ that's a copy of the message i sent earlier
[19:02] <psymin> supastupid, XBox One?
[19:03] <supastupid> S
[19:03] <supastupid> Xbox One S
[19:03] <supastupid> Tip: S is cheaper than X and its pretty good for it's price
[19:04] <n-iCe> supastupid: try  with cable first
[19:04] <n-iCe> to pair it
[19:04] <StevenJayCohen> younder: Booted from 20.04 install and the touchpad no longer works? I am at a loss.
[19:05] <psymin> Some XBox One controllers need a firmware update
[19:05] <ioria> supastupid, ls /sys/module/bluetooth/parameters/disable_ertm
[19:05] <supastupid> wired doesn't connect
[19:05] <supastupid> just vibrates
[19:06] <supastupid> also
[19:06] <supastupid> ioria: /sys/module/bluetooth/parameters/disable_ertm
[19:06] <ioria> supastupid, sudo sh -c 'echo 1 > /sys/module/bluetooth/parameters/disable_ertm'
[19:07] <supastupid> ioria: did it, but what does it do? i like to learn and know what i'm doing
[19:07] <ioria> supastupid, pair it
[19:07] <supastupid> i know it echoes something into a file
[19:08] <supastupid> but still nope
[19:08] <ioria> ah
[19:09] <supastupid> oh..
[19:09] <supastupid> i see what it does
[19:09] <supastupid> it uses bourne shell as root and echoes 1 into that file
[19:09] <ioria> supastupid, yeah, but if no use ...
[19:10] <supastupid> i used it
[19:10] <supastupid> what if i change to 0
[19:10] <ioria> supastupid, it's not persistent
[19:11] <ioria> supastupid, https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/14/linux-gaming-tip-how-to-pair-your-xbox-one-s-and-switch-pro-controllers-via-bluetooth/#366060bc101e
[19:11] <supastupid> you don't need sh -c
[19:11] <supastupid> that's why it isn't persistent
[19:12] <supastupid> using su and running the command does the job
[19:12] <supastupid> thank you
[19:12] <ioria> supastupid, ok
[19:15] <jrgilman> hey there, NFS noob here, reading this guide from digital ocean: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-nfs-mount-on-ubuntu-16-04, in part 3 they add /home with the option no_root_squash, this seems insecure is it not?
[19:16] <akik> jrgilman: it just means root is root on nfs
[19:16] <shinobi> is openjdk-11-jre-headless the correct package for openjdk 11 ?  I don't want just the runtime. I need the full sdk.
[19:16] <jrgilman> maybe this goes into a deeper misunderstanding of linux permissions akik
[19:17] <jrgilman> but it seems like
[19:17] <akik> jrgilman: no it just means that. by default root is not root on nfs
[19:17] <sarnold> jrgilman: is root on all machiens the same root?
[19:17] <jrgilman> okay just to backup for a second
[19:17] <jrgilman> sarnold: uh is it
[19:17] <jrgilman> i thought it all depends on the user's id number
[19:18] <jrgilman> so like in /etc/passwd
[19:18] <jrgilman> root is 0
[19:18] <sarnold> jrgilman: are *you* root on all machines/ are *only* you root on all machines?
[19:19] <jrgilman> I'm gonna sound stupid here, but I've reread that 8 times now and I'm still unsure what you mean
[19:20] <akik> jrgilman: the client machine that mounts the nfs share, that client machine's root account is the subject. can it access the nfs share as root or not, i.e. do whatever he wants
[19:21] <akik> jrgilman: if you set the mount option no_root_squash, root can do whatever on the nfs share
[19:21] <jrgilman> i assume with no_root_squash it can
[19:21] <jrgilman> gotchya okay
[19:22] <jrgilman> but if i don't
[19:22] <jrgilman> and i try to do stuff as root on the client machine
[19:22] <jrgilman> the NFS server converts that into some other user
[19:22] <akik> jrgilman: then root user can't do "anything" on the nfs share
[19:22] <jrgilman> and i'll get permission denied
[19:22] <codepy69> Hello :)
[19:22] <jrgilman> okay
[19:23] <jrgilman> is the benefit of that so that if I have a client machine and i connect to the NFS I can't just sudo su and mess with pretty much any file?
[19:23] <jrgilman> the purpose of the flag that is
[19:23] <jrgilman> no_root_squash
[19:23] <jrgilman> well i should say, the default behavior
[19:23] <jrgilman> without no_root_squash
[19:37] <mmlj4> what kernel does 20.04 have, please?
[19:38] <blb4393> 5.4.0-33
[19:38] <sarnold> mmlj4: 5.4.x derived kernels on most of the 20.04 lines
[19:38] <mmlj4> is there a bleedier version that has 5.6?
[19:39] <younder> mmlj4, Ubuntu doesn't do beelding fresh kernels as they are not proven. Perhaps you want fedora.
[19:40] <younder> bleeding
[19:40] <oerheks> LTS does not get 5.6 or up.
[19:41] <mmlj4> you have LTS, and something that isn't long-term, right? I'm asking about that, and does it have 5.6 yet.
[19:41] <mmlj4> and Fedora can DIAF
[19:43] <sarnold> mmlj4: there is a linux-oem-5.6 source package, but that may or may not be suitable for "standard" use https://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/dashboards/web/kernel-stable-board.html
[19:43] <mmlj4> thanks
[19:45] <oerheks> !mainline
[19:45] <oerheks> but that ppa gives no upgrades.
[19:46] <younder> mmlj4, Anything particular you miss in the 5.4 kernel?
[19:48] <mmlj4> wireguard
[19:48] <sarnold> oh
[19:48] <sarnold> you should have said :) wireguard is built in
[19:48] <sarnold> just run it
[19:48] <mmlj4> yes, DKMS will build, but doing that remotely after an upgrade isn't reliable
[19:49] <younder> I have often had problem with programs running in a distribution wich are not up to date, but never problems connected to the kernel version.
[19:49] <mmlj4> unless wg has been backported to 5.4, it's not built in
[19:49] <sarnold> mmlj4: no, like, literally, run sudo modprobe wireguard
[19:49] <sarnold> mmlj4: then check dmesg | tail
[19:49] <mmlj4> hmm...
[19:51] <mmlj4> I'll have to spin up a VM and test that (then try it on a Pi)
[19:53] <mmlj4> I'm trying to develop and sell a line of IoT gear, and my app depends on wireguard (the little things call home, and are verified via wireguard keys)
[19:54] <mmlj4> ...and as you know, the S in IoT stands for security...
[19:55] <sarnold> :D
[19:55] <younder> mmlj4, I use ubuntu core which has a different approach to security. Basically it's all snaps.
[19:56] <Haled> what kernel will 20.10 ship with?
[19:56] <mmlj4> there's an echo in here
[19:56] <sarnold> I don't think I've seen an announcement yet
[19:57] <Haled> sarnold: any estimation? what's likely?
[19:59] <mmlj4> I've beat my head against a wall for probably 8 months now... FreeBSD? it has wireguard, except it won't connect if you put it behind NAT. Slackware is my weapon of choice, but getting wireguard to rebuild after a kernel upgrade would involve clever scripting, as would straight debian. A distro with 5.6 would make all those headaches go away (and if your suggestion works, that too would work)
[20:00] <mmlj4> and Slackware 15 will have 5.6, but it's probably a year or so away :-/
[20:00] <sarnold> mmlj4: the wireguard author backported wireguard for our 5.4 kernel, I think he did something similar for a debian 10 kernel; you could probably steal the sources from either one and patch up slackware's current kernel
[20:01] <mmlj4> right, a backport, as I mused
[20:02] <mmlj4> I'd pondered simply compiling/packaging a kernel, but I dont' want to get into the OS maintainer game, that's what distros do best
[20:03] <mmlj4> oh, and RPis don't make things easy for a a dev... proprietary firmware and a busted bootloader, so'd you can't easily load your own kernel
[20:03] <lunaa> hello can someone help me with the new WSL?
[20:04] <lunaa> https://pastebin.com/wKRxmPAK
[20:04] <mmlj4> and the Go userland implementation simply will not build on a Pi
[20:04] <oerheks> lunaa, for wsl, discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or #ubuntu-server
[20:05] <lunaa> okay thanks
[20:05] <housecat> ##windows, not #ubuntu-server
[20:05] <sarnold> ConnectionRefusedError: [Errno 111] Connection refused
[20:05] <lunaa> yes
[20:05] <sarnold> are you sure the thing you're trying to connect to actually wants to talk?
[20:05] <housecat> anyway, from the look of those errors it's not a WSL issue, it's a "trying to connect over HTTPS to a site that doesn't do HTTPS" issue
[20:05] <lunaa> yes its working normally.
[20:05] <housecat> line 34 has the host on it, and that host has no HTTPS
[20:06] <lunaa> also netstate has an empty list.
[20:06] <housecat> (did you typo the hostname?)
[20:06] <Hamilton> I executed `apt-cache rdepends --installed suckless-tools` and the result was Reverse Depends:  i3-gaps . Does it mean that i3-gaps is dependent on the suckless-tools package
[20:06] <lunaa> sure housecat.
[20:06] <lunaa> also the netstate return an empty list.
[20:07] <lunaa> I just updated v2004 to tryout the wsl bash.
[20:07] <younder> mmlj4, Tried a Jetson or a NXP I.MX 8
[20:07] <sarnold> mmlj4: hmm -- even lxd builds on aarch64, eg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SNKFGN2mtQ/
[20:07] <housecat> lunaa: yeah, that on the other hand *is* a WSL issue, so it'd go in #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. but there's already a bug report for it, at https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2249
[20:08] <housecat> tl;dr: use windows' netstat instead
[20:08] <sarnold> mmlj4: lxd does quite a lot of go things.. it'll be a fairly complicated go user, I think
[20:10] <lunaa> housecat: at the moment, netstate is working but return an empty list. and the rejection for https is coming through 443, so its some kind of firewall. my windows is fresh and by even turning off the windows defender. i still get the same result
[20:16] <mk14> hi! i'm trying to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 but encountered an error, * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu. Please use the tool 'ppa-purge' from the ppa-purge package to remove software from a Launchpad PPA and try the upgrade again. If i edit sources.list (add # in front of ppa) will it be enough?
[20:18] <leftyfb> mk14: you need to follow the instructions and purge the ppa and the packages installed from it
[20:19] <leftyfb> or not
[20:24] <oerheks> add-apt-repository -r , not sure that reverses packages as ppa-purge does
[20:25] <younder> or just go into /etc/apt and remove them manually
[20:49] <lunaa> okay any idea how to link my localhosts from windows to be the same as wsl?
[20:50] <sarnold> what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:51] <lunaa> https://pastebin.com/wKRxmPAK
[21:04] <sumagna> any help in here regarding snapcraft
[21:04] <sumagna> or is that in another channel
[21:04] <sarnold> sumagna: indeed #snapcraft is more likely to have experts
[21:04] <oerheks> sumagna, applications and permissions?
[21:04] <sarnold> but it's not off-topic here, anyway
[21:05] <sumagna> ok
[21:05] <sumagna> while building a snap, it gives me an error, more specifically MemoryError
[21:05] <sumagna> what should i do  then?
[21:06] <oerheks> oh building snaps, #snapcraft is a better place i guess
[21:06] <sumagna> why is it even giving that?
[21:06] <sumagna> oh ok
[21:06] <sarnold> my guess without any further context is that you've probably run out of ram
[21:06] <sarnold> watch top or vmstat 1 -w output while building, and see if that looks like a good quess?
[21:07] <younder> sumagna, Be spesific. What snap. what memory error
[21:07] <sumagna> mine has 4gb ram
[21:07] <sumagna> i was trying to build my own snap
[21:08] <sumagna> i might have run out of ram
[21:08] <sumagna> *ran
[21:09] <younder> Sounds unlikely, what does your snap do?
[21:10] <sumagna> nothing much
[21:10] <sumagna> its a python application
[21:10] <sumagna> using qt
[21:11] <sarnold> iirc snapcraft fires up a VM as part of the build process
[21:12] <sumagna> i ran snapcraft again and was looking at the ram using system monitor
[21:12] <sumagna> i had 42% used
[21:12] <sumagna> and still it failed with MemoryError
[21:13] <sumagna> https://termbin.com/6nh2q
[21:13] <sumagna> this is the traceback
[21:16] <sarnold> sumagna: hmm. yeah, probably best to ask in #snapcraft, or perhaps try again on a machine with more memory?
[21:16] <sumagna> already asked
[21:16] <sumagna> and i might try on another machine with 8gb ram
[21:18] <younder> Maybe an other option is to increase the memory heap size. In the ‘etc’ folder of the installation directory you’ll find a file named snap.conf. Open it in a text editor.There is the line which starts with 'default_options='In this line you’ll find an option like -J-Xmx5G. Increase the value. You could use something like -J-Xmx3G,
[21:22] <sumagna> where should i  find snap.conf
[21:22] <client35> I'm getting a login loop when logging into what I believe is the default desktop. I tried some steps including switching to another tty and checking for permissions on .Xauthority but that hasn't helped. Not sure what to do next :/
[21:22] <client35> Password works b/c I can login with same user/pass in another tty
[21:22] <sumagna> i had a login loop once and fixed it
[21:22] <sumagna> but dont remember how :p
[21:23] <sumagna> younder: where should i find snap.conf
[21:24] <client35> could there be a conflict between the default window manager/desktop env and another?
[21:25] <sarnold> client35: try looking around for xsession errors, perhaps ~/.xsession-errors, perhaps it's somewhere else..
[21:25] <sarnold> client35: also try running a journalctl -f  in another virtual console while trying to log in via the graphical mechanism
[21:28] <client35> nothing in either /root/ or /home/user/ for .xsession-errors
[21:28] <client35> checking journalctl now
[21:29] <matsaman> client35: does it happen with a different/new user?
[21:32] <client35> I don't have another user but when I'm in another virtual terminal, I start to see the window manager bleed through; which I think is very strange.
[21:34] <client35> I'll create another user here shortly but I'm seeing gkr-pam: the password for the login keyring was invalid even though I'm using the same user/pass in my virtual terminal
[21:34] <client35> thanks for your help btw
[21:35] <sarnold> client35: hmmmm. did you perchance install something like virtualbox guest additions on your computer?
[21:35] <client35> nah, haven't done that. The last thing I did before this issue was try to allow xforwarding or gui to load over ssh
[21:36] <client35> Will have to try and see what steps I made to make that happen as that could have messed something up?
[21:36] <client35> Don't even have virtualbox installed
[21:37] <client35> Before the gkr-pam error, I see "Couldn't open /etc/securetty" no such file or directory. Authentication failure: logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=/dev/tty1 ruser= rhost= user=groot
[21:38] <sarnold> the /etc/securetty is harmless
[21:38] <sarnold> annoying but harmless
[21:38] <client35> Is it needed? I saw this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1239503/20-04-etc-securetty-no-such-file-or-directory
[21:39] <client35> trying a new user now
[21:39] <oerheks> what guide did you follow, for " try to allow xforwarding or gui to load over ssh " ??
[21:39] <client35> hmm, new user works...
[21:40] <oerheks> is the ssh-service running?
[21:41] <client35> yep, active(running) since I booted my computer
[21:42] <client35> Trying to find that guide I followed
[21:43] <nbusrone> I have a question , normally when you backup Home directory , which files must exclude ? all the hidden file ? I plan to backup .bash and some .config file but when I restore those hidden file , the ubuntu OS unable to boot.What is the reason it goes wrong ?
[21:43] <nbusrone> Is there some hidden files conflict and much not be replace with new OS installed ?
[21:45] <oerheks> cp -a to preserve permissions and such,..
[21:45] <oerheks> or cp -rp
[21:46] <client35> What is the desktop environment on Ubuntu 20.04?
[21:46] <oerheks> standard ubuntu-desktop is now gnome3
[21:48] <vbalage> oerheks yes it is
[21:49] <client35> thank you.
[22:00] <client35> I followed this guide https://mohanjith.net/blog/2008/01/using-gnome-remotely-via-ssh.html but also followed a few others. I mainly remember adding XForwarding to my `/etc/ssh/sshd_config` file. Looking through bash history for my user, I ran export DISPLAY=0, but that was only temporary
[22:01] <client35> The answer on this is also what I ran: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17255/is-there-a-command-to-list-all-open-displays-on-a-machine but that was only to see which displays I had
[22:02] <virmaha> Hello. I've a /home/some/foo binary but I want to ensure that whenever it is invoked, it is SOME_ENV=1  foo. how do I do that?
[22:04] <sarnold> virmaha: rename it to /home/some/.foo and write a script /home/some/foo that runs SOME_ENV=1 /home/some/.foo
[22:05] <virmaha> sarnold, won't the script have .sh suffix?
[22:05] <sarnold> virmaha: if you want it to have one, sure
[22:07] <oerheks> client35, old info from 2008 . nowadays we use systemD
[22:11] <client35> true, but wasn't having luck with ssh -X working so though to try something else
[22:27] <pavlos> client35: it should be export DISPLAY=localhost:0 ... I frequently test with ssh -X <host> and then run xclock. If clock appears, display is set
[22:44] <client35> My login issue still continues - it seems like something in gnome might be causing it b/c virtual terminal works just fine. I enabled Nvidia drivers over Ubuntu's default, could that cause issues with login?
[22:45] <client35> Don't think that's the case b/c another user logs in just fine
[22:52] <client35> wow this worked: https://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it
[22:52] <client35> Didn't have to run the session manually but switching from quiet splash to text, updating and then rebooting allowed me to get in
[22:53] <sarnold> oh weird
[22:54] <client35> Yea, very. I don't have a PW login for when I boot my computer (not really safe but not too concerned about that atm).
[22:55] <client35> but I booted right into my desktop without a fuss. Maybe it was the update-grub part? I'll have to test it out here shortly to see.
[23:08] <rjcarr> I’m trying to do a recursive rsync with specific permissions on the destination and it will work for the directory in the root but not apply to any of the created files and directories that are recursively created.  Is this expected?  My options are: -zrltvh --perms --chmod=D2775,F664
[23:14] <sarnold> rjcarr: what do you mean by "not applied"?
[23:15] <rjcarr> sarnold: Thanks, I mean they items don’t have the permissions I specified.
[23:15] <sarnold> rjcarr: skimming the rsync manpage I think it does NOT set umask at startup
[23:15] <sarnold> rjcarr: so if your receiver rsync's umask is set too restrictively, perhaps the umask is clearing bits you expected to be set
[23:18] <rjcarr> sarnold: Could be, but I haven’t modified the umask on the destination (although the directory does have setgid), and wouldn’t it be consistent for all items, including the root (i.e., first one created)?
[23:19] <sarnold> rjcarr: hmm, good question.


[18:14]  * penguin42 comes to you via the medium of mobile broadband, since my VM has crapped out
[18:14] <daftykins> uh oh, again!
[18:15] <zxmpi> what's it like out there... in the... you know... world? :-P
[18:15] <penguin42> daftykins: Held to gether by rubber bands and dry tape I'm sure of it
[18:16]  * penguin42 is fairly sure it doesn't like cold/damp weather
[18:16] <daftykins> shhh that's their secret sauce! ;)
[18:17] <zxmpi> there's another kind of weather?!
[18:18] <penguin42> zxmpi: Well, sometimes it's only cold or only damp
[18:18] <zxmpi> ah... summer
[18:20] <penguin42> hey now don't get ahead of things
[18:21]  * penguin42 wouldn't mind trying a 5G device for a while to see what's possible here
[18:23] <zxmpi> if you someone with one borrow it for a weekend?
[18:24] <daftykins> i still think we need to invoke the plan of snipping your lines in the dead of night
[18:24] <zxmpi> or on launch day of a big game :-P
[18:25] <penguin42> daftykins: I heard of one datacentre near here, way the locals thought they wanted to cut off before robbing a bank; they went after the nearby manholes with wheelybins full of petrol
[18:26] <daftykins> o0
[18:26] <zxmpi> radio link for security at bank?
[18:26] <penguin42> not sure
[18:27] <zxmpi> be a piece of piss to have a 4g or even a 3g modem to send notifications and data
[18:59] <davef> Never did I think I would be writing Python code to control my humidifier.
[19:00] <davef> I want to integrate it into my Home Assistant, it has support for VeSync (the thing it uses to control it) but not my specific device. So I figured I'll try and add that functionality myself.
[19:00] <davef> So far it's working. I can change the humidity target, mist level, turn on/off.
[19:00] <davef> Now I just got to get that into HA.
[19:08] <daftykins> one false move and you wake up in a swimming pool for a home!
[19:09] <zxmpi> that was his ferns hacking the system to get better living conditions :-P