[08:53] <arooni-mobile> chasetoys is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. ;;; how do i add that user to the sudoers
[08:53] <Mechdave> Hello barry_
[08:53] <arooni-mobile> oops sorry for repost
[08:53] <candykiller_> Mechdave: K
[08:53] <barry_> got a few questions for all...
[08:53] <uffo> hat is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[08:54] <zeno> how do i add programs to the altf2 launcher? in bash i have PATH="$PATH:"~/src
[08:54] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Stand by I shall google you a good page on the commands of Ubuntu
[08:54] <hmw_> after the / partition was full, i couldnt log in anymore, and my applications menu seems to be empty now. can i restore it without installing the whole system again? *whines*
[08:54] <zeno> i want ~/src to work for other shells and in altf2
[08:54] <hmw_> i cant open the menu editor either. (i freed ~600MB)
[08:54] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Hmm, so I'll need to extract this to the desktop, then copy the contents using sudo cp <source> <destination> ? o.0
[08:55] <barry_> im currently running a mac, powerpc G5, and was wondering what version of ubuntu is right for me.  i am brand new to linux.   i tried downloading / burning to cd and booting a few different versions with little to no success...
[08:55] <ziroday> barry_: unfortunately ppc is no longer officially supported in ubuntu. However there is an unofficial port
[08:55] <Mechdave> candykiller_, That command page -->https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/basic-commands/C/  I recommend you bookmark this page and refer to it often
[08:56] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:56] <Mechdave> candykiller_, You need to extract the file to your home directory
[08:56] <Mechdave> candykiller_, what kind of archive is it?
[08:57] <usuario> O.o
[08:57] <candykiller_> Mechdave .tar.gz from my firefox downloads window
[08:57] <barry_> would i be able to use an older version, say 6.06.1?  somehow i was led there
[08:57] <Mechdave> candykiller_, and it is on the Desktop?
[08:57] <theplastikjesus> does anyone use Awn ?
[08:57] <snowman> I have a problem with establishing a connection to an debian server with ssh public key auth. on windows it works without any trouble, but if i copy the private key to my ubuntu machine, the connection can't be established
[08:57] <panas55s> Please: any body recognise this??? system-tools-backends
[08:57] <panas55s> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:57] <ziroday> barry_: you could however it will probably be easier to use the unofficial community supported port.
[08:58] <candykiller_> Mechdave: No, but it can be there? where would the easiest place to extract and copy it be from?
[08:58] <usuario> fuck all
[08:58] <jonaskoelker> panas55s: yep, it means something went wrong :)
[08:58] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Maybe using the mv command would work better?
[08:58] <jonaskoelker> panas55s: try dpkg --reconfigure -a
[08:58] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:58] <Mechdave> barry_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC
[08:58] <ziroday> barry_: you might want to see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[08:58] <barry_> ty all :)
[08:59] <theplastikjesus> how do i add a icon for terminal in AWN?
[08:59] <panas55s> yes Jonas ,thank u .but what>
[08:59] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Ok first get the file into your home directory using mv if you wish
[08:59] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: as a launcher?
[08:59] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[08:59] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: yes as a launcher plz
[08:59] <Mechdave> no worries barry_
[08:59] <theplastikjesus> i dont know the command to add it i guess
[09:00] <snowman> how can i get support here?
[09:00] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: right click on a blank piece of the dock and select the "Preferences Option"
[09:00] <ziroday> snowman: ask your question
[09:00] <dcider> candykiller: have you tried nautilus as a root? sudo nautilus
[09:00] <jrgp> is this a good card for ubuntu x64 intrepid? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814135193
[09:00] <ziroday> jrgp: what do you mean by "good"
[09:01] <jonaskoelker> >
[09:01] <jrgp> as in works and can play high def mpg's
[09:01] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Alright, they're sitting in the Home folder
[09:01] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: im in the preferences > launcher
[09:01] <Ohmu> how to print my kernel version?
[09:01] <minium_> uname -r
[09:01] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Another more comprehensive list of commands id here --> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[09:01] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: okay Click add, the command is "Terminal" the rest can be anything you like
[09:02] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: sorry the command is gnome-terminal
[09:02] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Just a minute mate gotta go to baby... sorry be right back
[09:02] <ziroday> jrgp: it should be able to, however no promises
[09:02] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: do i have to use the " with the name?
[09:02] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: no, without quotes
[09:02] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok ty
[09:03] <dcider> candykiller_ : have you tried nautilus as a root? sudo nautilus
[09:03] <snowman> ziroday: i have problems with public key authentication to a debian server from my ubuntu desktop. from windows vista it works fine (podrosa / openssh), but if i copy the private key to my ubuntu machine it doesn't work
[09:03] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok i did that is it supposed to put an icon in the awn itself?
[09:03] <hmw_> how can i extract Compiz settings via shell, i dont want to tweak it again after the reinstall, i am about to make
[09:04] <ziroday> snowman: have no idea about that sorry
[09:04] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: yes
[09:04] <candykiller_> hmm, let me try that
[09:04] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: the normal locations for them are /home/<username>/.icons and /usr/share/icons
[09:04] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok i did not get an icon on my awn at the bottom of my screen
[09:05] <hot_wheelz> hi
[09:05] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: you need to restart it
[09:06] <hot_wheelz> anyone running a Huawei · E960 in 8.10?
[09:06] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Does anyone use gnome-do and mpd?
[09:06] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: restart Awn itself?
[09:06] <ziroday> jonaskoelker: the people in #gnome-do would
[09:06] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: yes
[09:06] <jonaskoelker> ziroday: no, not really
[09:06] <candykiller_> Mechdave:  mv zektonbo.ttf ~/etc/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[09:06] <hmw_> where are the compiz settings stored?
[09:06] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok how do i go about that, im new to linux and awn sry
[09:07] <candykiller_> Mechdave: That's what I was typing in, is that correct?
[09:07] <candykiller_> Mechdave: While it was on my desktop
[09:07] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: just trying to get a cool lookin desktop set up here
[09:07] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: sure, you can open a terminal and type in killall avant window navigator and then do avant-window-navigator & disown. You can then close the terminal
[09:07] <ziroday> hmw_: you mean how to edit them?
[09:08] <panas55s> Jon.K  its too complex, maybe an idea of what i should debug?
[09:08] <hmw_> ziroday no, how to copy them away, format and reinstall, then reimport
[09:08] <Looop_> hey have a desktop with ubuntu, how do I set it up so the desk look a like MAC OS X
[09:08] <hmw_> ziroday my desktop is completely unusable now, main menu dead
[09:08] <ziroday> hmw_: you can use the CompizConfig Settings Manager to export the settings
[09:09] <ziroday> Looop: you mean completely like mac os x or just the dock?
[09:09] <hmw_> ziroday i am not sure, if my ubuntu is that usable anymore... it works only partly... i will try... never saw an export button...!?
[09:09] <ziroday> hmw_: it under preferences
[09:10] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: thx man got it working
[09:10] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool.
[09:10] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: great
[09:11] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok another question sry where do i go in there to change the icon for the terminal command i put in
[09:11] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[09:11] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[09:11] <Looop_> ziroday i mean the dock sorry I was not specific
[09:11] <hmw_> ziroday thanks. is it just me, or is 8.10 really that instable? i had many minor and some major issues, 7.10 seemed to be much more stable
[09:13] <pinkster> hello, ubuntu has misidentified my graphics card as the ati fire gl when it is in fact the ati hd 3200. How can I fix this (putting the correct drivers into use? Currently it is unable to set the correct resolution for the display and use 3d effects.
[09:13] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: nm i got it
[09:14] <mavsman4457> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10 my mic doesn't work
[09:14] <dcider> has ne1 else had problems with visual effects set to normal and google earth screwing up using a ati 9600 xt card and the fglrx driver???
[09:14] <Looop> ziroday i mean the dock sorry I was not specific
[09:15] <candykiller_> Mechdave: This shit is killing me, lol, all I want to do is add a @%^%#$^ font
[09:15] <ne2k__> on ubuntu desktop (gnome) , alt-tab works as expected; it brings up a series of miniature versions of the open windows and cycles through them. however, alt-shift-tab doesn't go backwards through the list. I do have alt-shift as my keyboard map switcher. this used to work on windows. can I make it work or do I need to choose another keyboard map switcher combination?
[09:16] <ziroday> hmw_: that depends on your system and what you do to it
[09:16] <B|ackPanther> After installing 8.10 i realise the fonts are now rough,is there a way i can smoothen them up ?
[09:16] <ziroday> Looop: if you compositiing enabled take a look at avant-window-navigator otherwise simdock
[09:17] <ziroday> B|ackPanther: you can try fiddle with the settings in System > Preferences > Appearance > Edit Theme > Font
[09:17] <Looop__> ok thanks just know that my friend has it and i'm normaly use a dock so thx
[09:17] <Looop__> bey
[09:18] <B|ackPanther> ziroday,i dont think its the font,am still using monospace 10 and they were much better in 8.04
[09:19] <ziroday> B|ackPanther: well try the settings in there. What resolution are you at?
[09:19] <B|ackPanther> My eyes go bad if i watch the screen for a while and i think it is something to do with 8.10
[09:20] <theplastikjesus> what is the best .mp3 player for ubuntu? I was looking at xmms but, was wanting some opinions
[09:21] <ziroday> !best | theplastikjesus
[09:21] <hmw_> ziroday: how seriously is a full file system "allowed" to damage the whole sys? i mean, it got unusable. is that to be expected?
[09:21] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: but take a look at banshee, amarok. rhythmbox and audacious
[09:21] <poplar> ~_~
[09:22] <ziroday> hmw_: um well a file file system can very very easily damage your system. Did you boot into the recovery option and run the clear space option?
[09:22] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: i got rhythmbox atm immm not sure i like it
[09:22] <theplastikjesus> i'm*
[09:22] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: well an idea of what you like? winamp or itunes like?
[09:23] <ajuonline> my ubuntu install shows/works for lesser time on battery than windows xp. XP wokrs for 6 hours. Ubuntu for 4.5 hours [all approx]
[09:23] <Joe1> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could help with an audio problem?
[09:23] <hmw_> ziroday no, i switched to the console, when i couldnt log into gnome anymore, and deleted about one gig, but the applications menu was empty and i couldnt mount the windows partitions properly (using the GUI)
[09:23] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: yeh like winamp
[09:23] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: take a look at vlc and audacious
[09:23] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok thx
[09:24] <Mo0oSaH> If I install a deb file because it is a newer version than  repos, will it get updates once repos catchup?
[09:24] <ziroday> hmw_: well try the recovery option. The livecd also has a "recover a broken system" option on it
[09:24] <fosco_> Mo0oSaH: yes
[09:24] <dcider> candykiller_ : did a google search and "http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/10/14/installing-fonts-on-ubuntu/
[09:24] <ziroday> Mo0oSaH: however ubuntu is not rolling release, large updates aren't made
[09:25] <Joe1> I've been running kubuntu for years and upgraded ever 6 months. This time (cos of KDE 4) I upgraded and then installed ubuntu-desktop. I pulled out the kde packages. Now my audio is corrupted, which is a shame since it used to run fine! It's the realtek builtin audio on an nforce2 board. I tried pulling out pulse and just using alsa but that's still borked :-(
[09:25] <candykiller_> Mechdave: So I figured out the move thing, but I don't know the designator for my 'File System'
[09:26] <Mo0oSaH> ziroday, fosco_, thanks!
[09:26] <candykiller_> Mechdave: I put the font in Root and this is what I typed: sudo mv ~/zektonit.ttf /etc/usr/share/fonts/truetype
[09:26] <Joe1> I get "sound" but it's garbled, like a downmix is hosed. Sometimes bits of left and right at low volume sometimes just nothing.
[09:26] <Joe1> Can anyone help?
[09:26] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[09:29] <magic_ninja> anyone know where virtualbox under windows saves its disk image files
[09:30] <Joe1> So any audio geniuses here?
[09:30] <ikonia> magic_ninja: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:31] <magic_ninja> !question | ikonia
[09:31] <ikonia> magic_ninja I didn't ask a quetion
[09:31] <c0mp13371331337> magic_ninja: Try searching for *.vdi'?
[09:31] <ikonia> magic_ninja: don't abuse the bot
[09:32] <oxdot> hi ... anyone knows how to blacklist libata and enable old ide on intrepid ... it's even possible ?
[09:32] <magic_ninja> c0mp13371331337, thanks bro that is the info i was looking for
[09:32] <ikonia> oxdot thats an odd request, for what reason
[09:32] <candykiller_> Mechdave: WOOT! IT WORKED
[09:32] <ikonia> oxdot: keep in mind that everything in ubuntu is setup to use the current libatar model
[09:32] <ikonia> libata even
[09:33] <oxdot> ikonia, ^^' ... cant read an old ide disk on intrepid, but can do it on my ipcop box (2.4) and wanted to ddrescue it ...
[09:33] <ikonia> oxdot well, thats a different kernel - that shouldn't be anything to do with libata
[09:33] <ikonia> oxdot: how are you trying to access the disk in 8.10
[09:34] <magic_ninja> what is it, sudo apt-get upgrade-dist
[09:34] <ikonia> magic_ninja: for what ?
[09:34] <Momentum> Hi guys. I've just installed drivers for my wireless netcard but now I cant connect to any APs..
[09:34] <magic_ninja> ikonia, why to upgrade distrobution of course
[09:35] <magic_ninja> i'm still on 8.02
[09:35] <ikonia> magic_ninja: 8.04 ?
[09:35] <Joe1> After upgrading from Kubuntu 8.04 to Ubuntu 8.10 my nforce2 audio has died - it sounds all corrupt - missing channels, mixing channels, weird levels etc. I tried removing pulse audio and going to plain alsa with no joy. Can anyone help?!
[09:35] <magic_ninja> whichever lol
[09:35] <ikonia> !upgrade > magic_ninja
[09:35] <oxdot> normal (mount) but even fdisk complain about non existent partition ... maybe you know some rescue distro that use an old lib (since nor ubuntu or sysrescue can access it)
[09:35] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Anyone know how to setup X-CD-Roast to discover and use a Sony SATA - DVD/CDR/CDRW  burner - Do I have to modify the " etc " file ? ? ?
[09:35] <ikonia> oxdot what device file are you running it against ?
[09:35] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, it should autoconfigure
[09:36] <jxander> hi there. I'm trying to connect my external LCD. i have an ati x1400 on a dell inspiron 6400 lappy. i tried both in 8.04.1 and 8.10, but ubuntu doesn't always detect the monitor, and when it detects, it doesn't give me the native resolution. The panel is a Samsung SyncMaster 2243nw 22inch. please help :-s
[09:36] <oxdot> device file ? ext3 ?
[09:36] <ikonia> oxdot /dev/$what
[09:36] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, can you, for instance, play a cd in the drive, does bios recognize it
[09:36] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi
[09:36] <oxdot> ikonia, ubuntu/sysrecue /dev/sdx  ... ipcop /devhdx
[09:36] <magic_ninja> jxander, install ati tools and set your resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:37] <ikonia> oxdot: is the device removable or mounted in the chassis
[09:37] <magic_ninja> jxander, i use nvidia myself, so i'm not quite sure how to do it on ati
[09:37] <Momentum> !rmmod
[09:37] <Momentum> !rt61
[09:37] <Momentum> !rt61pci
[09:37] <nite_johnboy> majic_ninja: Yup - have no problems burnin g w/Brasero or watch DVD movies w/Xine or Terminal run " Ogle ".
[09:37] <oxdot> ikonia, internal (on an old nforce2 board)
[09:37] <ikonia> oxdot: is teh forcedeath drivers loaded ?
[09:38] <Momentum> dammit
[09:38] <mclure> anyone here familiar with openoffice drawing? need some help
[09:38] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja:  Yup - have no problems burnin g w/Brasero or watch DVD movies w/Xine or Terminal run " Ogle ".
[09:38] <oxdot> ikonia, appears not (lsmod | grep '*force*') ... it is an WD400GB
[09:39] <ikonia> oxdot worth loading the forcedeath drivers
[09:39] <ikonia> oxdot: also check if dmesg/var/log/syslog shows up the disk at boot time
[09:39] <jxander> magic_ninja: thanks, but do you happen to know the name of the package?
[09:39] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, do you HAVE to use xcd roast, try k3b i find it a very good burner myself
[09:40] <Skry^> agreed
[09:40] <gab3> [01:36] <gab3> stupid question
[09:40] <Ademan> hey is anyone familiar with a "network clipboard" ?  for instance I could copy on my desktop, and paste on my laptop.
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> i need to write a simple shell script that performs the same operation on multiple files
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> java -jar jmac.jar d Track01.ape Track01.wav
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> all the way through 31
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> can anyone help? should be simple
[09:40] <FloodBot1> gab3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> i'm not a programmer
[09:40] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi choices
[09:40] <ikonia> gab3 ask in #bash
[09:40] <ikonia> gab3: that is a good cahnnel for scripting support in #bash
[09:41] <gab3> thank you
[09:41] <oxdot> ikonia, it does ... i can acces other partition on the drive (witch is 'diying') but the 1st and the last are not accessible. I cant test forcedeath right now (its mounted on ipcop, but i take a look ...)
[09:41] <magic_ninja> jxander, i believe its aticonfig but check this link it may be helpful... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353665
[09:41] <gab3> just switched from winxp to kubuntu this weekend--mainly because NTFS is a fucking DOG
[09:41] <ikonia> gab3: stop the language
[09:41] <ikonia> gab3: thats not needed
[09:41] <gab3> ooh sorry.
[09:41] <magic_ninja> !language | gab3
[09:42] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: Will probably just un-install it and continue to Braseo - I run the Gnome desktop - I do have KDE installed as well - When can't burn good w/Brasero - Will just boot into KDE & use K3b - Thanks anyway....
[09:42] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, you can run k3b from gnome...i use gnome myself
[09:42] <ikonia> nite_johnboy it's an overkill to download kdelibs and kdebase for the sake of a ccd burner in my opinion
[09:42] <jxander> magic_ninja: thanks a lot... i'll try it.
[09:43] <oxdot> ikonia, any idea why i cant acces theses partitions on ubuntu, but can copy around on ipcop ?
[09:43] <Ademan> nite_johnboy: there's absolutely nothing keeping you from using KDE application in Gnome (other than kde applications will take a bit longer since they have to load an entirely different set of libraries from Gnome applications, and kde apps in Gnome look uglier than sin)
[09:43] <magic_ninja> jxander, sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:43] <Ademan> functionally they're usually exactly the same
[09:43] <Momentum> How do I blacklist an old wireless driver?
[09:43] <ikonia> oxdot I'd guess (and it is just a guess) that the older 2.4 driver doesn't do any sort of error checking, where as teh new one may do and won't allow you to mount a damaged disk
[09:43] <ikonia> !blacklist > Momentum
[09:44] <Administrator_> so whichone is better between gnome and kde?
[09:44] <jxander> :)
[09:44] <ikonia> Administrator_: personal opinon, try them both see which one you like
[09:44] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: I have had issues with it in the past - but recently added the KDE & Fluxbox - might give it a try again. Thanks
[09:44] <Mechdave> Administrator_, try both and use which one you like
[09:44] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, give me a moment, there was another good application, let me try to remember what it was
[09:45] <Joe1> Guess my problem is too tricky. Thanks anyway people. :-(
[09:45] <oxdot> ikonia, but it tell me that the device does not exist (special device does not exist ... ) even if fdisk -l list every thing ... ???
[09:45] <theplastikjesus> Is there a way to move the Avant Window Navigator other than the default location
[09:45] <Administrator_> but should i install ubuntu or kubuntu
[09:45] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: ok
[09:45] <ikonia> oxdot thats still driver access
[09:45] <Administrator_> i have to pick one of them? or anyone of them is fine for both?
[09:45] <ikonia> Administrator_ either, they are the same, both desktops work on both
[09:45] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, i don't know what its like now (it wasn't that great when i tried it), but there is nero burning rom for linux as well
[09:46] <Mechdave> Administrator_, I would install Ubuntu dvd which has both
[09:46] <oxdot> ikonia, well ... any way thks for the hint ;) gonna look further ...
[09:47] <ikonia> oxdot no poroblem, but I really don't think it has anything to do with libata (to save time wasting)
[09:47] <candykiller> How would I change the brown/orange - highlights/scrollbars/menus ?
[09:47] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi choices
[09:47] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: I have that downloaded in my downloads folder - but hadn't tried it yet - Think I'll stick with the good ol standard K3b.
[09:47] <theplastikjesus> Can i move Avant Window Navigator around other than the default location it comes in?
[09:48] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: What do use for playing DVD movies ?
[09:48] <oxdot> ikonia, ok (thks for save me some time and maybe my conf ;) )... i just finished dl Acc-Knoppix, maybe it use the old one ...
[09:48] <Alexzzz> i need http packet analyzer for ubuntu, something like HTTP Analyzer for windows. Any ideas?
[09:49] <IdleOne> !players > nite_johnboy
[09:49] <D3LTA> someone here knows a distro iso or image with installed ffmpeg flv2tool etc. ?
[09:50] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi http://paste.ubuntu.com/76328/
[09:50] <oxdot> cya ...
[09:50] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: I have been using Ogle - You have to run it from Terminal - but once you remember the commands - it works great - Plays really nice!
[09:51] <goosh> when i click off any title bar in gnome the color disappears and it displays incorrectly until i re-select it. is this a known bug, my fault, or something trivial that nobody but me cares about?
[09:52] <cfedde> it's part of the theme you're using?
[09:52] <goosh> just got the standard intrepid human theme
[09:52] <strygies> bonjour
[09:52] <ardchoille> unfocused titlebars are semi-transparent, how do I make them all solid?
[09:52] <timboy> I need to do a reinstall of intrepid but I want to keep my home dir and user preferences. what's the best way to do this?
[09:52] <goosh> nvidia gfx if that makes any difference
[09:55] <Alexzzz> can I find http sniffer for ubuntu, something like http analyzer for windows?
[09:55] <theplastikjesus> Can i move Avant Window Navigator to another location other than its default
[09:55] <c0mp13371331337> timboy: How big is /home ?
[09:55] <mon^rch> timboy: just reinstall and don't format your /home partition
[09:55] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: How do you use " !players " in Synaptics in a Search window ?
[09:55] <D3LTA> someone here knows a distro iso or image with installed ffmpeg flv2tool etc. ? tried medibuntu
[09:55] <segosa> Alexzzz: wireshark?
[09:56] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, in the search bar of Synaptic type dvd
[09:56] <timboy> mon^rch, that will work?
[09:56] <mon^rch> timboy: I do it all the time
[09:56] <segosa> Alexzzz: apt-cache search sniffer
[09:56] <ardchoille> timboy: is your /home on a separate partition?
[09:56] <Zvezdichko> Hello, is there a good video converter that can convert my own ustream .flv files to .avi files for example?
[09:56] <timboy> mon^rch, sweet thx!
[09:56] <segosa> Zvezdichko: avidemux
[09:56] <timboy> ardchoille, I'm pretty sure it is. i'm going to go check :)
[09:57] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ok - What did you mean by your previous post of " !players " ?
[09:57] <mon^rch> timboy: make sure you have a seperat /home partition before trying that
[09:57] <timboy> ardchoille, let's say for argument sake it's not then just copy it off and copy it back?
[09:57] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, do you have a tab named ubottu ? if so click on it and read the info
[09:57] <timboy> mon^rch, :) yeah for sure
[09:58] <mon^rch> timboy: good!
[09:58] <ardchoille> timboy: if your /home is not on a sep part, then you need to copy it somewhere or it will get overwritten by the partitioner
[09:58] <timboy> ardchoille, ok thx
[09:58] <timboy> thx all!
[09:59] <Skaag> is there some kind of webmin package in ubuntu?
[09:59] <Skaag> or something of the sort
[09:59] <ikonia> ebox
[09:59] <ardchoille> !info webmin
[09:59] <Zvezdichko> I downloaded avidemux... hope this works
[09:59] <ikonia> webmin is not supported on ubuntu
[10:00] <Skaag> good, I didn't like webmin too much
[10:00] <Maveas> How do I safe blacklist in etc/modprobe.d =
[10:00] <Maveas> ?
[10:00] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ah - so when you did the line -" !players > nite_johnboy " then that give's a command to ubottu to give me info correct ?
[10:00] <mon^rch> ardchoille: http://www.webmin.com/download.html
[10:00] <Maveas> It says I don't have permission
[10:00] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, correct
[10:01] <ardchoille> mon^rch: I don't use anything that isn't supported on Ubuntu
[10:01] <Skaag> I don't see an ebox apache module
[10:01] <mon^rch> ardchoille: just trying to help
[10:01] <theplastikjesus> what would be the command to add a launcer for audacious in avant window navigator?
[10:01] <theplastikjesus> launcher*
[10:01] <ardchoille> mon^rch: But, thank you :)
 Wireshark is very good sniffer but i need something different. Something like HTTP Analyzer which displays all http activity with good navigation, so you can easily view all headers POST requests etc. Hope you understand me, sorry for bad English.
[10:01] <cacho> ola
[10:01] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ah ok - noob here sorry - I've seen this posted to other people and did not know what is was for - thanks.
[10:01] <aiai> hello where can i ask for help?
[10:02] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: drag the audacious menu icon to avant window navigator
[10:02] <unix> anyone here can help me solving my problems on my a4tech webcam not working on kopete, but if i try to use ekiga... my webcam is working well. im using 8.10
[10:02] <cacho> alguna mujer q hable español
[10:02] <ardchoille> !es | cacho
[10:02] <segosa> he's asking if there's a spanish-speaking girl
[10:02] <Skaag> ebox has issues....   ebox-services: Depends: ebox (>= 0.11.99) but it is not going to be installed
[10:02] <Skaag>                  Depends: ebox (< 0.12) but it is not going to be installed
[10:02] <segosa> in a _linux_ channel
[10:03] <Maveas> :P
[10:03] <segosa> that's funny.
[10:03] <ardchoille> hehe
[10:03] <Skaag> yes true
[10:03] <Skaag> funnny indeed
[10:03] <Skaag> but at least he's trying
[10:03] <Skaag> I give him points for that
[10:03] <threequarks> does anyone know where the tab icons are gone in the latest Kate editor intrepid.  (kde 4.1.2)
[10:03] <Skaag> imagine if he succeeds
[10:03] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: thx didn not no you could drag and drop into avant
[10:03] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, no problem you can also query ubottu in that same window without the ! prefix. if the bot has info it will return it to you if not it will let you know
[10:04] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: that's one of the nicest features :)
[10:04] <Maveas> Seriously, I don't what to do to get my wireless card to connect to my ap :/
[10:04] <skalka> hi guys, I have a problem with a intel 4965 wireless card
[10:04] <Skaag> ok so ebox is definitely broken in intrepid
[10:04] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: is there a way to move avant other than the defualt location it comes in
[10:05] <pen> !ask
[10:05] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: So could I use the a term for my own information - Like say I used my own login name as follows: " !dvd > nite_johnboy " and give results to myself ? ?
[10:05] <fogel> hi
[10:05] <fogel> where is .conkyrc file in ubuntu?
[10:05] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: I've never looked into that
[10:05] <Savage-{> anybody able to get pulseaudio working with wine for OSS?
[10:05] <ikonia> fogel your home dir normally
[10:05] <threequarks> .conkyrc lives in your home directory. if it isnt there , just create it
[10:05] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, yes but to avoid spamming to the channel you can just enter dvd in the ubottu chat window and get info
[10:06] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: ok thx
[10:06] <fogel> ikonia: an if i doesn't have it where it is to cpoy it from?
[10:06] <Zvezdichko> hmmm.. obviously avidemux doesn't work. is there a .flv to .avi converter which works in console
[10:06]  * chip__ sends greetings
[10:06] <ikonia> fogel the man page tells you how to make one
[10:06] <fogel> ok
[10:07] <fogel> ok
[10:07] <skalka> my problem is that wireless speed connection on ubuntu is much slower than on win xp with a intel 4965 card and only with some router
[10:07] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: do u know if it takes alot of memory to have a bunch of icons in avant?
[10:07] <theplastikjesus> launchers rather
[10:07] <Panarchy> I've got a massive problem, when I installed Ubuntu over 8.04 (8.10) it seemed to work perfectly... but I can't use apt
[10:07] <Panarchy> please help
[10:07] <fogel> and i cant find how to install gcc plugins to recompile my kernel
[10:07] <ikonia> Panarchy what is the problem/error
[10:07] <fogel> (looking on google)
[10:07] <ikonia> fogel gcc are not plugins, why do you need to recopile your kenrel ?
[10:07] <Panarchy> ikonia
[10:08] <ikonia> Panarchy: yes ?
[10:08] <Panarchy> what the paste box thing
[10:08] <Maveas> fogel, i've just used "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:08] <ikonia> !paste > Panarchy
[10:08] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: it doesn't on my machine
[10:08] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ok - I got it - Do not want to abuse the use of this forum... - Will see what I come up with in Synaptics as well - Thanks for your patience.
[10:08] <Panarchy> !past
[10:08] <Panarchy> !paste
[10:08] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: ok cool thx
[10:09] <hmw_> often the volume control does a mean trick to me: i move the slider, and suddenly the link between the left/right channel is opened and the other slider drops to zero volume. i cant find out, why. i would like to "hard link" both channels, this is quite annoying. do you know this symptom?
[10:09] <Maveas> !blacklist
[10:09] <Panarchy> hang on a second
[10:09] <Savage-{> Is there a way to get OSS to work with Pulseaudio? I am having issues with WoW in wine
[10:09] <Panarchy> ikonia
[10:09] <Panarchy> seems to of fixed itself
[10:09] <Panarchy> though wireless still doesn't wrok
[10:09] <Panarchy> 2 questions
[10:09] <Maveas> How do I edit the blacklist file in etc/modprobe.d?
[10:09]  * Panarchy asks first question
[10:09] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, you are welcome. anytime you need help please ask in here
[10:09] <ikonia> Panarchy still waiting for you to tell me in what way it doesn't work
[10:10] <ikonia> !blacklist > Maveas
[10:10] <Panarchy> how do I take out the power button (smaller) icon from the top menubar once Ubuntu 8.10 is installed?
[10:10] <cens0red> hmmmm. Groovy yacht http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Oberon-Class-Submarine-Ex-HMAS-Otama-Maritime-Museum_W0QQitemZ170280823913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Boats?hash=item170280823913&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1307
[10:10] <Maveas> ikonia: yeah, read it, so I just make a new file named "my_blacklist"?
[10:10] <ikonia> Panarchy right click and hit remove
[10:10] <ikonia> Maveas if you want
[10:10] <Maveas> But cant I just edit the blacklist file?
[10:10] <ikonia> Maveas sure
[10:10] <Maveas> How do I get permission to i?
[10:11] <Maveas> it*
[10:11] <Panarchy> ikonia: Sorry, just did that
[10:11] <ikonia> Maveas use sudo
[10:11] <cacho> sexo
[10:11] <Maveas> I dont now how? :D
[10:11] <Panarchy> ikonia: was not what I wanted, I want it to tell me what user is logged in
[10:11] <ikonia> cens0red thats not needed in here - it's offtopic it
[10:11] <ikonia> Panarchy you want to remove the power button to tell you what user is logged in ???
[10:11] <Panarchy> ikonia: I just wanted to get rid of the icon, so I wouldn't have a big icon next to a small icon
[10:11] <ikonia> Panarchy: then move it
[10:12] <Panarchy> ikonia, I merely wanted to get rid of the ICON
[10:12] <ikonia> Panarchy: and thats what you did
[10:12] <mon^rch> Panarchy: can't you just r-click and remove from panel?
[10:12] <AUTOEXEC> i screwed up my apache. now i want to remove all files, and then reinstall them because apt-get install got it right. but after 'sudo apt-get remove apache2' i still find all the apache files in /etc/apache2 and /usr/sbin - how come??
[10:13] <Panarchy> no, I can't
[10:13] <Maveas> Grr, cant get permission to safe blacklist.. :S
[10:13] <mon^rch> crappy
[10:13] <Panarchy> well I've done that
[10:13] <ikonia> Panarchy why, what happens
[10:13] <Panarchy> but I want the second menu
[10:13] <ikonia> Maveas what command are you using
[10:13] <Savage-{> nm I got it
[10:13] <AUTOEXEC>  i screwed up my apache. now i want to remove all files, and then reinstall them because apt-get install got it right. but after 'sudo apt-get remove apache2' i still find all the apache files in /etc/apache2 and /usr/sbin - how come??
[10:14] <Panarchy> that you get when clicking the smaller 'shutdown' icon
[10:14] <AUTOEXEC> how can i remove ALL apache files?
[10:14] <Panarchy> purge
[10:14] <Maveas> I've opened the blacklist file in gedit
[10:14] <ikonia> Maveas did you use sudo
[10:14] <Maveas> sudo with what command? :S
[10:14] <ikonia> Maveas: sudo $editor $file
[10:14] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get remove apache2
[10:15] <ikonia> Maveas: I told you to use sudo - so if you've not - it's not going to allow you to edit the file
[10:15] <Panarchy> how do I remove the smaller 'shutdown' icon that appears next to my username?
[10:15] <ikonia> Panarchy right click on it ?
[10:16] <Panarchy> that removed the whole bar
[10:16] <ikonia> Panarchy it shouldn't
[10:16] <Panarchy> (BTW: How do I get the bar back?)
[10:16] <mon^rch> lool
[10:16] <transporter> guys unable to play .dat files
[10:16] <bazhang> !resetpanels
[10:16] <transporter> generally vcd files
[10:16] <Maveas> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and then what? :S
[10:16] <Maveas> it wont opben
[10:16] <transporter> can somebody help me plz
[10:17] <ikonia> Maveas what does it sayu
[10:17] <ikonia> say
[10:17] <ikonia> transporter: ask a question
[10:17] <bazhang> transporter, using what app
[10:17] <Maveas> cannot open display
[10:17] <ikonia> Maveas gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:17] <Panarchy> Thanks, all is good again
[10:17] <Maveas> doesnt work
[10:17] <Maveas> :/
[10:17] <Panarchy> (forgot how many things I added to that bar)
[10:17] <Panarchy> Well found the problem
[10:18] <AUTOEXEC> can someone ssh my apache out of trouble? anyone got a minute for a newb?
[10:18] <Panarchy> still has the big shutdown button from 8.04
[10:18] <ikonia> AUTOEXEC what's the issue
[10:18] <hmw_> AUTOEXEC whats the problem?
[10:18] <Panarchy> I'll ssh your apache :P
[10:18] <ikonia> Maveas you need to start saying more than "doesn't work" start saying the error/problem
[10:18] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, don't allow people root access to your machine
[10:18] <Maveas> cannot open display
[10:18] <ikonia> AUTOEXEC do not allow untrusted people access to your machine
[10:18] <ikonia> Maveas type "id" in a terminal and show me the output please
[10:18] <AUTOEXEC> idleone: why not? nothing of value on my machine.
[10:19] <mon^rch> Panarchy: try creating a new user for yourself, and then copy over all your settings?
[10:19] <neao> 很好用啊。
[10:19] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, ask for help be patient and do it yourself
[10:19] <bazhang> neao, english here
[10:19] <mavsman4457> Why doesn't my mic work now that I upgraded to ibex?
[10:19] <hmw_> AUTOEXEC people could place backdoors
[10:19] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, root access gives people the ability to add things not just take
[10:19] <fogel> ikonia: to optimize my system
[10:19] <bazhang> for chinese /join #ubuntu-cn neao
[10:19] <neao> ok.
[10:19] <ikonia> fogel in what way ?
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> yeah i'm aware of that.
[10:19] <Panarchy> okay, autoexec, contact me via 'private chat' and tell me the server location and password
[10:19] <fogel> to make it faster?
[10:19] <ikonia> fogel: how do you think re-compiling the kernel will optimise your sytem, what do you plan to chance
[10:19] <ikonia> change
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> well then, i screwed my apache, how can i remove all the files so i can get it again with apt-get install? cause then it worked.
[10:19] <Panarchy> ah
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC>  sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> [sudo] password for tgf:
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:20] <fogel> include only these drivers i need for example
[10:20] <FloodBot1> AUTOEXEC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <Panarchy> well find the apache directory
[10:20] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, don't come back to us when stuff hits the fan. you were warned
[10:20] <Panarchy> and type in
[10:20] <AUTOEXEC> floodbot: relax am just fast.
[10:20] <Panarchy> sudo rm -r
[10:20] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: close the other program using dpkg?
[10:20] <ikonia> fogel the kernel is modular, so they are not in use anyway unless you load them
[10:20] <AUTOEXEC> piksi: like?
[10:20] <bazhang> AUTOEXEC, close add/remove or other apt front ends
[10:20] <ikonia> fogel so that won't make a difference
[10:20] <fogel> so you see, i prefer drivers compiled in kernel, not as modules :)
[10:20] <ikonia> fogel why ?
[10:21] <bazhang> AUTOEXEC, and next time paste.ubuntu.com (NOT here)
[10:21] <ikonia> fogel: your going to lose ubuntu support for no reason
[10:21] <fogel> ikonia: but i'll still have the original kernel, don't worry
[10:21] <Panarchy> sorry, changed to GUI IRC client
[10:22] <ikonia> fogel yes but you lose support
[10:22] <Maveas> ikonia: I don't need to edit blacklist anyway - the driver I'm using is only for monitor mode
[10:22] <AUTOEXEC> it says ubuntu is not installed anymore so nothing was removed, if thats true how come i still get the very same result with 'whereis apache2'?
[10:22] <fogel> ok, so i will
[10:22] <Maveas> So there is no problem
[10:22] <Maveas> hihi xD
[10:22] <ikonia> fogel ok then,
[10:22] <ikonia> fogel I again suggest you don't as you don't seem confident with what your doing (asking how to isntall gcc) but it's your call
[10:23] <baruch> how to connect with xchat to a server not on the list?
[10:23] <ikonia> fogel: you will get no performance boost
[10:23] <mavsman4457> My microphone doesn't work anymore
[10:23] <fogel> yes i know your opinion
[10:23] <Maveas> Is it possible to use rt61pci for wlan0 and at the same time use rt61 for wlan1?
[10:23] <skalka> my problem is that wireless speed connection on ubuntu is much slower than on win xp with a intel 4965 card and only with some router
[10:24] <ikonia> skalka: it is possible the drivers are not as good
[10:24] <fogel> why everyone has to make problems if i want to do anything with my os and asking how to do it...?
[10:24] <bazhang> Maveas, load balancing?
[10:24] <ikonia> fogel: do it then
[10:24] <Maveas> bazhang: yeah? how does that work?
[10:24] <bazhang> fogel, its not supported here
[10:24] <baruch> how to connect with xchat to a server not on the list?
[10:24] <ikonia> fogel: re-compiling the kernel is not supported - hence why your not getting support
[10:24] <Maveas> add the new one?
[10:24] <bazhang> Maveas, not that simple
[10:24] <IdleOne> baruch, /server irc.server-name.com
[10:25] <Maveas> ups
[10:25] <baruch> thx, IdleOne :)
[10:25] <fogel> ok, so what else is not supported? just in case if i'd like to ask about it...
[10:25] <Maveas> !google
[10:25] <Maveas> !google load balancing ubuntu
[10:25] <bazhang> fogel, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <AUTOEXEC> if apache is not installed, how come all these config files are still here??
[10:25] <IdleOne> Maveas, you do not have the fu yet it seems
[10:26] <skalka> ikonia: I've tried with compat-wireless as suggested somewhere... but the wireless stops workink at all
[10:26] <ikonia> skalka I've no idea what your orginal question was,
[10:26] <fogel> but anyway... thx for help ;)
[10:26] <fogel> but anyway... thx for help ;)
[10:26] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: because apt-get remove doesn't necessarely remove config files removing with purge does
[10:27] <puff> Anyody know if it's feasible to use a zune as a USB drive from ubuntu?
[10:27] <Maveas> bazhang: I'm not sure that it's "load balancing" I need? :S
[10:27] <piksi> that's why it's called purging
[10:27] <AUTOEXEC> piksi: i closed synaptic package manager but still gettin an error.
[10:27] <skalka> ikonia: with some routers my wireless speed is much slower than on windows xp
[10:27] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: see with ps aux if there are some undead instances of update managers or apt running, like ps aux|grep apt or grep update
[10:28] <piksi> then kill the processes
[10:28] <ikonia> skalka: as I've said the drivers may just not be as good
[10:28] <Maveas> I'm trying to learn to use aircrack-ng and I want wlan0 to connect to my AP, so I can use wlan1 to monitor the connection between my ap and wlan0
[10:29] <Maveas> So I need two specific drivers loaded at once - rt61pci for wlan0 and rt61 for wlan1
[10:29] <skalka> ikonia: which kind of drivers i've to use? with compat-wireless the card doesn't work at all, I've backport-modules installed and I heve this problem since gutsy
[10:29] <Maveas> Can't that be done in a "simple" way? :)
[10:29] <AUTOEXEC> piksi: after installing with apt-get, apache2 should by default start automatically right?
[10:29] <mlesniak> Hi, how can I mix the list of directories and files while using ls? By default, directories are listed on top of the list
[10:29] <bazhang> Maveas, you have two wireless cards?
[10:29] <ikonia> skalka if the drivers arn't as good (they mey/maynot be) that may be your limitation
[10:29] <Maveas> Yeah
[10:30] <bazhang> Maveas, that does not sound possible
[10:30] <Maveas> :S
[10:30] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: i don't remember if it does. you can trigger it with /etc/init.d/apache restart iirc
[10:30] <Maveas> Hmm, I've read somewhere that a guy used two cards - one for AP connection and the other for aircrack-ng (at the same time)
[10:30] <Maveas> Hihi
[10:30] <skalka> ikonia: ok, but how can i find the right driver? this card is quite common
[10:31] <Maveas> iwpriv
[10:31] <Maveas> Ups, forget that ^
[10:31] <bazhang> Maveas, /join #aircrack
[10:31] <mclure> what ubuntu software would you recommend to draw simple 2D graphs. I need units on the y and x units. can't fint that in oo-draw
[10:31] <Maveas> I've did, but they don't now anything about it
[10:31] <Maveas> know*
[10:32] <cheeps> Is it possible to recompile current kernel modules? My lirc is complaining that "lirc kernel modules" aint working
[10:32] <hmw_> i exported the compiz settings, but now there is no effect, when i try to reimport
[10:32] <vallhalla81> mclure: blender
[10:32] <bazhang> Maveas, that is your best bet, or a search of ubuntuforums
[10:32] <ikonia> cheeps not advised
[10:32] <cheeps> I dont want to compile a new kernel
[10:32] <Maveas> I'll do then
[10:32] <ikonia> cheeps: better to find out why lirc things tehre is a problem
[10:32] <cheeps> ikonia: ive reported a problem, but noone seems to answer in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/301115
[10:32] <ikonia> cheeps: for example I've used lirc with 8.04 and 8.10 and suspect it maybe a config error over something fatal
[10:32] <vallhalla81> mclure:  or gimp for somthing a little less complex
[10:33] <cheeps> ikonia: no, its not a config error because it works okay with older kernel, ive done fresh install of 8.04 and updated to 8.10 and lirc still gives me the same error
[10:33] <Panarchy> LAST QUESTION
[10:33] <Panarchy> okay guys
[10:34] <ikonia> cheeps log a bug for it (which I see you have done) and get teh developers to push  fix down
[10:34] <Maveas> Hmm
[10:34] <mclure> vallhalla81: yeah. I could use matlab, but its a bit unneccessary. just need the correct scale on the axis. ie starting from 0 to 250 with steps of 50. strange, thought that would be included in openoffice
[10:34] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself
[10:34] <renoork> hello
[10:34] <Maveas> I stop a module with rmmod, right?
[10:34] <renoork> french here ?
[10:34] <Panarchy> how do I get that feature in 8.10?
[10:35] <Maveas> "rmmod rt61" says "Module rt61 is in use"
[10:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr renoork
[10:35] <Panarchy> june ce pa
[10:35] <ikonia> !fe > renoork
[10:35] <cheeps> ikonia: no dev seems to take interest in my problem, at least not yet..
[10:35] <renoork> ok thznks
[10:35] <Maveas> !rmmod
[10:35] <Maveas> !info rmmod
[10:35] <ikonia> !fr > renoork
[10:35] <renoork> ok
[10:35] <ikonia> cheeps how long ago did you log it
[10:35] <kg87> maveas - sudo modprobe -r rt61
[10:35] <ikonia> cheeps:  you may also consider contacting the lirc package maintainer so he can talk with the correct kernel maintainer
[10:36] <cheeps> ikonia: 2008-11-22
[10:36] <Maveas> What does rmmod do then?
[10:36] <renoork> how join french channel please ?
[10:36] <bazhang> renoork, /join #channel
[10:36] <ikonia> cheeps 2 days, give them a chance
[10:36] <kg87> Hi everyone, I've managed to kill my fonts... firefox is only showing images and text appears as "white
[10:36] <renoork> thanks bazhang
[10:36] <ron2nix> is there any way to change my local ip on ubuntu? like it's <IP_ADDRESS>, and i'm looking more for like <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:36] <Maveas> sudo modprobe -r rt61 says the same "FATAL: Module rt61 is in use"
[10:36] <kg87> ron2nix, manually configure your IP
[10:37] <kg87> hmm sorry maveas
[10:37] <mavsman4457> What are the default settings for alsamixer?
[10:37] <ron2nix> just nos sure where to start on linux heh
[10:37] <cheeps> ikonia: I guess its not so long...
[10:37]  * Mustinet yb
[10:37] <kg87> ron2nix 1 sec...
[10:37] <ron2nix> k
[10:37] <ikonia> cheeps still wouldn't hurt to contact the maintainer, introduce yourself and outline the bug you've logged
[10:38] <Misterjos> hey, does anyone has this problem: i have trouble with selecting text in ubuntu, because it seems to regularily double click even if i just hold left mouse button, its a very annoying problem. All help is welcome!
[10:38] <oxr> yo
[10:38] <ron2nix> I wonder if vmware doesn't muck up the local ip like that or something
[10:38] <ron2nix> it's linux and not vmware right?
[10:38] <cheeps> ikonia: synaptic tells me that the maintainer is "Ubuntu Core Developers"
[10:38] <mavsman4457> Can someone just quickly go to the terminal and type "alsamixer" and tell me what your settings are?
[10:39] <ikonia> cheeps if you look on launchad you'll find the lirc package maintainer, or #ubuntu-bugs may know him (he may even be idling in therE)
[10:39] <ron2nix> mavs: no
[10:39] <AUTOEXEC> i used purge to remove apache2, and manually deleted all config files, then i used apt-get install to reinstall, but now whereis apache2 won't show anything?
[10:40] <ron2nix> I was trying to forward ports to linux and noticed my router is lame and only lets you forward within the 192.168.2.* block and linux is using a different one
[10:40] <ron2nix> haha
[10:40] <kg87> is there anyway of rebuilding the fonts in buntu?
[10:40] <AUTOEXEC> when i try to start apache2 it says: no apache MPM package installed?
[10:41] <kieko> can someone help me with adding a jar file to applications menu?
[10:41] <ikonia> kieko: you don't add jar files, they are just java archives
[10:41] <kieko> i specify the path + java -jar GoGrinder.jar but application doesn't launch
[10:41] <ron2nix> I do of course blame the router for being lame, and not the user for buying it, but only in this case i guess
[10:42] <ikonia> kieko: does it need a terminal to launch
[10:42] <kieko> ikonia, when i navigate to file and do java -jar GoGrinder.jar in terminal it launches; i want to add a gui launcher to applications menu though/preferably
[10:42] <ikonia> kieko: then you need to launch a terminal that launches that command, not that command
[10:43] <ron2nix> I hate it when you accidentally forget you "sudo su'd" and make install and then have to go back and change all the permissions
[10:43] <kieko> ikonia, so in app menu i edit and in the dialog window there is a drop down menu i selct terminal?
[10:43] <ikonia> kieko: no, that will just launch a terminal, you need a custom
[10:44] <kieko> ikonia, ok, in that case i don't follow now
[10:44] <ron2nix> and then after that you realize "oops, i make install'd" too
[10:44] <kg87> I have font issues!!!!!
[10:44] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself
[10:44] <ikonia> kieko you need a custom command that launches a terminal, with the command to lauch the java application
[10:44] <Panarchy> how do I get that feature in 8.10?
[10:44] <kieko> ikonia, 1st off is it possible to do what i want?
[10:44] <ikonia> kieko should be
[10:45] <kieko> ikonia, do you know how?
[10:45] <ikonia> kieko I've just told you
[10:45] <kieko> ikonia, ok, but i don't know how to make a custom command
[10:45] <ikonia> kieko there is an option to make a custom launcher
[10:45] <kieko> ikonia, specifically?
[10:45] <ikonia> 10:45 < kieko> ikonia, specifically?
[10:46] <Ximal> how do i look up an isbn number ?
[10:46] <ikonia> oops
[10:46] <ikonia> kieko yes
[10:46] <ikonia> Ximal use a website, nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:46] <lars_bauer> hey there, is there a goggle earth interface for my Hardy Heron ?
[10:46] <ron2nix> wait this IP issue is probably a vmware issue, not an ubuntu issue
[10:46] <ron2nix> vmware's putting it in 192.168.220.*
[10:46] <bazhang> lars_bauer, get it from medibuntu.org
[10:47] <ikonia> ron2nix: your bridging is not setup correctly
[10:47] <lars_bauer> bazhang: thx, ill try that :-)
[10:47] <ron2nix> yeah
[10:47] <Boohbah> Ximal: i hear loc.gov is nice
[10:47] <ron2nix> I'll have to work on that tomorrow. I'm off to bed fairly soon. just winding down
[10:47] <kieko> ikonia, that is what i have been trying to do; create a custom launcher in App Menu... i don't know what to enter in the command dialog though
[10:47] <Ximal> thank's boohbah
[10:47] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[10:48] <ikonia> Ximal please keep offtopic questions out of #ubuntu
[10:48] <Ximal> ikonia ... please stop that..
[10:48] <ikonia> Ximal: stop what ?
[10:48] <bazhang> Ximal, what
[10:48] <Ximal> i ask a MILLION support questions in here and NOONE EVER ANSWERS.. yet if I ask 1 question about another subject suddenly you are all over me..
[10:49] <bazhang> Ximal, it is offtopic.
[10:49] <Ximal> I find it disrespectful and untasteful and very very hard for us..
[10:49] <ikonia> Ximal: that doesn't matter, please control yourselt and not ask offtopic question
[10:49] <kieko> ikonia, iin ~/apps i have an application which launches in terminal when i type java -jar GoGrinder.jar Can you tell me how i can make that run from custum launcher?
[10:49] <bazhang> Ximal, there is a chat channel for that --->#ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <ikonia> kieko I've explained wha tyou need to do
[10:49] <ikonia> kieko: I don't have a gui in front of me to look up the options for you
[10:49] <Boohbah> kieko: just make a new launcher with that line in it
[10:49] <Ximal> I've asked 1 off topic in here since i've been warned in over 3 or 4 months... go warn someone else ikonia
[10:50] <bazhang> Ximal, please stop.
[10:50] <kieko> Boohbah, that is what i did, but it doesn't work
[10:50] <kieko> Boohbah, | ikonia that iw why i came here to ask where i am going wrong
[10:51] <zhaozhou> Boohbah, where did you get that nick? O.o
[10:51] <Boohbah> zhaozhou: i picked it out myself, thanks! http://boohbah.tv
[10:52] <Maveas> :D
[10:52] <zhaozhou> Boohbah, xD goobah.org
[10:52] <Maveas> goobah.org - what is that?
[10:52] <zhaozhou> My unfinished site
[10:53] <Maveas> About what?
[10:53] <zhaozhou> Maveas, It's going to be a javashell, but i havent got around to finish it
[10:53] <zhaozhou> Maveas, javascriptshell, rather
[10:53] <Boohbah> zhaozhou: nice css.. hope you mean js and not java ;)
[10:53] <kieko> tells me it failed to execute child process that ther is no such file or directory ???
[10:54] <Boohbah> kieko: maybe your java binary is not in your PATH
[10:54] <kieko> ikonia, you told me what to do but not specifically how. What you told me to do i had already done but its not working
[10:54] <zhaozhou> Boohbah, Heh, yup, I did.
[10:54] <ikonia> kieko: you had not done what I todl you to do
[10:54] <kieko> Boohbah, it must be because when ido it in a terminal it works
[10:54] <ikonia> kieko: typing that command won't work
[10:55] <kieko> ikonia, well, tell me again then please. It seems i misunderstood you then
[10:55] <ikonia> kieko: you need to launch a termina, that invokes the command you want to use, so it runs within that terminal
[10:55] <kieko> ikonia, and i don't know how to do that
[10:55] <ikonia> kieko: and I explained I didn't have a gui available to walk you through it
[10:55] <ikonia> kieko: that doesn't mean what you need to do has changed, so asking and asking won't change it
[10:56] <Boohbah> kieko: i got kde4 in front of me but i think there is an option in gnome to right click and create a new terminal launcher
[10:56] <ikonia> Boohbah: there is, I just don't have the gui in front of me to point exactly where to him, you are correct rhoguh
[10:56] <ikonia> though
[10:56] <kieko> Boohbah, i'm in the App Menu but don't know what either of you are asking me to do exactly
[10:57] <bazhang> there is Boohbah right click create launcher as you say, and you can specify application, app in terminal, etc
[10:57] <msetim> hello guys
[10:58] <Boohbah> kieko: right click on the blank desktop to create a new terminal app launcher
[10:58] <SpAc> can I choose which kernel to download and install during installation - on the alternate / minimal CD image perhaps?
[10:58] <bazhang> SpAc, what do you mean
[10:58] <ikonia> SpAc no
[10:58] <ikonia> SpAc: it installs teh default kernel
[10:58] <msetim> I'm using beagle in hardy and I would like to update it to version 0.38. How can I do this?
[10:58] <bazhang> like the rt kernel SpAc ?
[10:58] <Boohbah> SpAc: you can always install a custom kernel when the default install finishes before you reboot
[10:58] <bazhang> msetim, why do you need the latest beagle
[10:59] <B|ackPanther> Is there a cheaper way i can get ubuntu training ? something like just buying the material and studying on my own and then going for exams instead of being trained ?
[10:59] <SpAc> Boohbah, ikonia, bazhang: thanks. I want to install the server kernel instead of the generic one. So before reboot would be the best option?
[10:59] <kieko> Boohbah, yes, that is the same dialog that i get in Apps Menu and i don't kknow what else to do with it.. in the top there is s drop down for either Application or Terminal and what i've put in the 'command' section is the path + command that would otherwise launch it in a terminal which ikonia says is not gonna work. what is the correct command
[11:00] <Andy80> hi all, my Firefox looks like "broken": Back, Forward, Reload buttons are always gray, Bookmarks are gone, lot of websites don't work anymore (for example I cannot click on Login button on www.ustream.tv). I've tried to re-install ff3 packages but it didn't help. How can I fix it?
[11:00] <kieko> ikonia, you don't need to walk me through the gui... i just need the right command
[11:00] <msetim> bazhang: to avoid some kind of bug because my beagled-helper is using 100% CPU.
[11:00] <ikonia> kieko I've told you the right command
[11:00] <ryan__> segwaystar
[11:00] <ikonia> kieko: if you can't find where to put it, I do need to walk you through
[11:00] <bazhang> B|ackPanther, training? please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <Boohbah> Andy80: rm -rf ~/.mozilla ro remove all firefox settings, bookmarks, etc.
[11:01] <kieko> ikonia, what is it then? All i hear is that i need a command which will launch a terminal with the command in it. BUt i repeat i don't know how to do that
[11:01] <kieko> ikonia, i know where to put it... i just don't know the command
[11:01] <bazhang> kieko, pay attention then
[11:01] <SpAc> Boohbah: cool, cause I'm using the minimal CD image to run up a server remotely.
[11:01] <bazhang> kieko, right click create launcher
[11:01] <kieko> bazhang, i am. He simply hasn't told me the exact command.
[11:01] <kieko> bazhang, yes
[11:02] <bazhang> kieko, then choose the appropriate launcher and add the command
[11:02] <kieko> i got that part down to a tee
[11:02] <ikonia> kieko: for example "xterm -e" - try it in a terminal
[11:02] <AUTOEXEC> guys, please HELP: i removed apache2 in order to reinstall and just did successfully reinstalled with apt-get install but whereis apache won't show the directories it used to?
[11:02] <kieko> bazhang, you say 'add the command' What command?
[11:02] <bazhang> kieko, to do what
[11:02] <kieko> bazhang, lol, and you're telling me to pay attention?
[11:02] <Oli``> Andy80: I'd NOT remove .mozilla -- move it instead
[11:02] <Boohbah> kieko: add your java command ...
[11:03] <kieko> Boohbah, i repeat - i have - AND it doesn't work, sorry
[11:03] <bazhang> kieko, I have not been following what you are trying to do.
[11:03] <ikonia> kieko xterm -e $command
[11:03] <bazhang> kieko, we are volunteers here.
[11:03] <Andy80> Oli``: too late -.-
[11:03] <kieko> bazhang, me too
[11:03] <Oli``> Andy80: Hope you didn't lose anything too important =\
[11:04] <SpAc> then again, I will probably just use the Server CD to install. If I don't select any extra packages that should be the same as the minimal CD right?
[11:04] <bazhang> kieko, do you need us to guess the command? what precisely do you want to do?
[11:04] <kieko> bazhang, sorry, i was just trying to do what ikonai just gave me
[11:04] <bazhang> SpAc, not so; the minimal is only 9mb
[11:04] <Andy80> Oli``: my bookmarks are synced with Foxmarks, and I only used two extensions: AdBlock and Foxmarks... I'll reinstall them
[11:04] <ikonia> SpAc: no
[11:04] <Oli``> Boohbah: Please be cautious when telling somebody to delete things. I'd be thoroughly annoyed with you if you had just told me to remove my ~/.mozilla dir
[11:04] <ikonia> SpAc: the server setup is aimed at enterprise class ahrdware
[11:05] <SpAc> bazhang: but that is because it downloads the other packages from repo
[11:05] <ikonia> SpAc: it is not the same as the desktop/minimal
[11:05] <kieko> bazhang, i have an applicaiton in ~/apps which i launch in a terminal with java -jar GoGrinder.jar and all i want to do is add it in my Apps Menu
[11:05] <unix> anyone here can help me solving my problems on my a4tech webcam not working on kopete, but if i try to use ekiga... my webcam is working well. im using linux 8.10 entripid
[11:05] <ikonia> SpAc: use the desktop cd and remove what you don't want, or use the minimal cd aqnd build up what you want
[11:05] <Oli``> Andy80: Phew =) Just losing my cookies and saved passwords would kill me.
[11:05] <bazhang> SpAc, easiest would be to install server imo
[11:05] <SpAc> ikonia: ok... so for servers... use the server cd?
[11:05] <SpAc> makes sense :P
[11:06] <zhaozhou> kieko, be sure to add the 'cd ~/apps' though, but you probably know this already
[11:06] <Andy80> Oli``: doh! didn't remember those :(
[11:06] <Boohbah> Oli``: i also told him it would remove all firefox settings, bookmarks, etc. which was the desired effect for fixing a borkked install... i assume he would know to backup if he wanted to keep anything from being deleted
[11:06] <zhaozhou> kieko, 'cd ~/apps && java -jar GoGrinder.jar' (:
[11:06] <ikonia> SpAc: you cracked the code, well done ;)
[11:06] <kieko> zhaozhou, thx
[11:07] <SpAc> thanks
[11:07] <Maveas> Man, I'm in love with linux now :P
[11:08] <kieko> zhaozhou, unfortunately that doesn't work either
[11:08] <Maveas> It's beautiful
[11:08] <ikonia> kieko: what part have I not explained  ?
[11:09] <kieko> ikonia, i need the full command. I tried applying your thing with xterm -e but alli get is a a window that pops up and noapplication
[11:09] <ikonia> kieko so do an xterm -e ls
[11:09] <ikonia> kieko: build up, don't try to do it from attempt one
[11:09] <andy_> hi
[11:10] <Saga> Hmm -- I think I installed Moblock / Mobloquer -- How do I run the GUI?
[11:10] <kieko> ikonia, xterm -e ls ~/apps  java -jar GoGrinder.jar  <--- like that?
[11:10] <Boohbah> kieko: xterm -e your_command_here
[11:11] <kieko> Boohbah,  xterm -e ls ~/apps  java -jar GoGrinder.jar  <--- like that?
[11:11] <ikonia> kieko no
[11:11] <Boohbah> kieko: xterm -e 'java -jar GoGrinder.jar'
[11:11] <ikonia> kieko: just "xterm -e ls" see if your new xterm does ls for you
[11:11] <dmarkey_> does 8.10 have official xen dom0 support?
[11:12] <AUTOEXEC> how is it possible that right after sudo apt-get install apache2 'whereis apache2' wont list anything? (i previously used remove purge to remove apache2 and manually delted config files)
[11:12] <ikonia> dmarkey_: should do, I did work on the beta versions dom0 for testing and there was a few issues, but it did work
[11:12] <kieko> Boohbah, xterm -e 'java -jar GoGrinder.jar that is what i did earlier at ikonia's prompting and which i said didn't work
[11:13] <frith> this idiot here has forgotten his keyring password
[11:13] <ikonia> kieko start at the basics
[11:13] <ikonia> kieko: xterm -e ls
[11:13] <yarborea> AUTOEXEC don't you have to run updatedb before expecting brand new items to be listed?
[11:13] <ikonia> yarborea: nah, it's in /usr/sbin so thats covered
[11:14] <kieko> ikonia, nothing happens when i do that
[11:14] <ikonia> kieko: nothing at all
[11:14] <AUTOEXEC> yarborea: might very well be. how do i do that?
[11:14] <t3mper> hello room, i need help with making my local hosted wordpress blog available online.
[11:15] <yarborea> AUTOEXEC ikonia is probably right but if you want to try anyway just type - sudo updatedb and hit return
[11:15] <kieko> ikonia, apparently not
[11:15] <Maveas> Lol, "Linux has no concept of a "file extension" like legacy operating systems", I didn't know that xD You get smarter everyday, hihi
[11:15] <Maveas> LOVE
[11:15] <deoks> t3mper: Read up on howto install and configure Apache.
[11:15] <gord_> I lol @ file extensions
[11:15] <ikonia> kieko lets try something that doesn't go away, xterm -e xclock
[11:16] <Maveas> gord_: yeah :)
[11:16] <ikonia> kieko: or xterm -e /usr/bin/xclock
[11:16] <AUTOEXEC> how do i manually run updatedb?
[11:17] <kieko> xterm -e xclock launches a clock alrite ikonia
[11:17] <yarborea> AUTOEXEC trouble is I've never had to install Apache and I was only speaking generally.
[11:17] <Chaotic_Descent> I've been trying to learn SQL (and it's web integration) off and on over the years, but never got very far... any recommendations on which LAMP package to go with? Should I switch up PHP for Perl or Python? ... oh. I see XAMPP does both PHP and Perl...
[11:17] <ikonia> kieko ok, so that means xterm -e ls launches ls then exists witht he terminal
[11:17] <skenmon> hi
[11:17] <ikonia> kieko: so you need to do "xterm -e $path/to/java -$options $/path/to/jars"
[11:18] <t3mper> deoks, i already got LAMP up. I have a website up as well but i can't link to my wordpress blog
[11:18] <t3mper> any ideas?
[11:19] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm easily discouraged, so I don't want to get off on the wrong path...
[11:19] <kieko> ikonia, viz. xterm -e ~/apps java -jar GoGrinder.jar ?
[11:19] <deoks> t3mper: What do you mean by "link"?
[11:19] <ikonia> kieko: no
[11:19] <kieko> ikonia, :[
[11:19] <Saga> Hi -- I logged out and signed in -- I installed Moblock / Mobloquer -- How do I run the GUI? ;o
[11:19] <t3mper> better that i show you my site. is it okay to post a url here?
[11:20] <t3mper> or do i get kicked if i do that?
[11:20] <ikonia> kieko: is ~/apps anything to do with the path to java ?
[11:20] <kieko> ikonia, i don't get your last line $/path/to/jars ?
[11:20] <bazhang> t3mper, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:20] <Chaotic_Descent> Maybe I should try a... LAMP IRC channel?
[11:20] <Chaotic_Descent> man... searching for "AMP" on IRC is going to be painful.
[11:20] <kieko> ikonia, its where the application is. In a terminal i would navigat there and to the java -jar ... to launch
[11:20] <ikonia> kieko: xterm -e $path/to/java (where java is) -$java_options (the options for java) $-path_to_jar (path to where the jarfiles are)
[11:21] <ikonia> kieko you need to use absoloute paths
[11:22] <kieko> where the hell is java :/
[11:22] <ikonia> kieko: normally /usr/bin
[11:22] <kieko> k, thx
[11:22] <Chaotic_Descent> ... huh... no AMP channels... how odd.
[11:22] <Saga> Does anybody here know how to start GUI for Mobloquer?
[11:23] <t3mper> bazhang, why there?
[11:23] <bazhang> t3mper, that is for offtopic things; blog posts are offtopic here.
[11:23] <t3mper> ah, ok
[11:23] <kieko> ikonia, so: xterm -e /usr/bin/java /home/livingdaylight/apps java -jar GoGrinder.jar <---- ???
[11:24] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[11:24] <ikonia> kieko NO
[11:24] <t3mper> bazhang, but it concerns my LAMP connection (or at least i think it does)
[11:24] <ikonia> kieko: I can't spell this out any clearer
[11:24] <bazhang> t3mper, then ask a question
[11:24] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko: /home/livingdaylight/apps where in my example did I say put that, why put java -jar when you've already put /usr/bin/java where is the path to where the GoGrinder.jar is located
[11:25] <kieko> ikonia, the path where go grinder is located is /home/livingdaylight/apps
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko: xterm -e /usr/bin/java -gar /home/livingdaylight/apps/GoGrinder.jar
[11:25] <Nimbus_2008> can anybody here help me get an edge modem working in intrepid ?
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko where in the example did I say put that path
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko: 1.) path to java
[11:26] <ikonia> kieko: 2.) java options (in your example -jar)
[11:26] <ikonia> kieko: 3.) path to application
[11:26] <t3mper> okay. I have a LAMP server. I have setup Wordpress as well. I've linked my server to be available to the net (briananthony.serveblog.net). I placed a link there to my wordpress blog. for some reason, it does not work. help?
[11:26] <kieko> ikonia, welli got the first part i.e. xterm -e path to jave (/usr/bin/java)
[11:26] <ikonia> kieko and did totally random things
[11:26] <mclure> getting the annoying message "folder contents could not be displayed" when trying to save a document in open office. how do I solve this?
[11:27] <c0re__> hi, i need a init.d script for pppd
[11:27] <t3mper> mclure, the last folder you saved to was moved or deleted. saving to another folder usually solves that.
[11:27] <mac123> hi!
[11:27] <kieko> ikonia, sorry, i followed your template as best as i could - honestly
[11:27] <mclure> t3mper: it's the first time I'm saving a document. reinstalled ubuntu yesterday
[11:28] <kieko> ikonia, now: xterm -e /usr/bin/java -gar /home/livingdaylight/apps/GoGrinder.jar is this supposed to be the correct solution i should have arrived at?
[11:28] <mac123> is it pssible to dd backup the ubuntu partition from inside itself?
[11:28] <t3mper> what's the default folder?
[11:28] <ikonia> kieko it's -jar !!!!!!!
[11:28] <kieko> ikonia, not -gar?
[11:28] <t3mper> maybe you imported your last settings and OO used those settings
[11:28] <squeakybot> Is it possible to save terminal sessions i.e. save command history, tab name etc.?
[11:28] <ikonia> kieko no
[11:28] <t3mper> bazhang,  okay. I have a LAMP server. I have setup Wordpress as well. I've linked my server to be available to the net (briananthony.serveblog.net). I placed a link there to my wordpress blog. for some reason, it does not work. help?
[11:29] <mclure> t3mper: it tries to access a folder that does not exist. perhaps I should try to reinstall openoffice with purge?
[11:29] <bazhang> t3mper, placed in which folder
[11:29] <t3mper> /var/www/wordpress
[11:29] <kieko> ikonia, i really am trying my best. Are you sure you are making this as easy as you can for  me?
[11:29] <SteveHill> Is this the correct channel to ask about start-up items in Ubuntu?
[11:29] <ikonia> kieko right - your on your own now after that comment
[11:29] <t3mper> mclure, what folder does it try to open?
[11:30] <Maveas> How is the procedure for installing a normal app? Like flashplayer for ex.?
[11:30] <Maveas> What do I do when I've downloaded install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz?
[11:30] <kieko> ikonia, didn't mean to offend. Just curious
[11:30] <Nimbus_2008> extract it
[11:30] <Maveas> Unpak it and then what? And how do I know where it is placed in the filesystem?
[11:31] <t3mper> Maveas, if you're looking for flashplayer, you're better off installing the ubuntu restricted package
[11:31] <kieko> didn't know adding a .jar file to apps menu could be this challenging
[11:31] <t3mper> bazhang, /var/www/wordpress
[11:31] <unix> anyone here can help me solving my problems on my a4tech webcam not working on kopete, but if i try to use ekiga... my webcam is working well. im using linux 8.10 entripid
[11:31] <Maveas> t3mper: which contains?
[11:31] <mclure> t3mper: getting 'error stating file: '/home/ubuntu/Documents' it clearly does not exist
[11:32] <SteveHill> I have two; one is how do I stop mythbunto (or any application) from starting automatically, and ttwo, I have both eth0 and eth1 coming up at boot,  How do I only get eth1 to ufconfig up automatically?
[11:32] <onats> hi, i have a nvidia 7600GS video card. i am not able to get correct resolutions and am unable to activate 3d... anyone know how to fix this?
[11:33] <kieko> ikonia, i was just curious whether you were trying to teach me by showing me templates i had to follow and then beating me up for not following your instructions properly; even though i did as best as i could; when knowing all the components to my question you could have just given me the command line(solution) to begin with; at least that is what i was wondering; hence i asked
[11:33] <Nimbus_2008> what ?
[11:33] <Nimbus_2008> you don't know where u have downloaded it ?
[11:33] <t3mper> mclure, try saving something, browsing to an existing folder. close oo, open it again and see if the problem still there.
[11:33] <t3mper> mclure, also, you're username is 'ubuntu'?
[11:33] <t3mper> Maveas, the package contains a lot of extras such as flash plugin etc. etc.
[11:34] <t3mper> you can find it from 'Add/Remove'
[11:34] <mclure> t3mper: when I try to save it anyway it says it needs openoffice.org-java-common. really neccessary? nope. that's not my username. but I
[11:34] <t3mper> mclure, that's weird. what's your username?
[11:35] <mclure> t3mper: I'm using eeebuntu on a eeepc 901. perhaps something wrong with that system. can be solved if I reinstall openoffice with purge?
[11:35] <t3mper> mclure, probably. is it a fresh install?
[11:35] <t3mper> like totally fresh, you did not have a separate partition for your home files?
[11:36] <mclure> t3mper: yep. btw. installing openoffice.org-java-common didn
[11:36] <mclure> t3mper: didn't change anything
[11:37] <Dusk_> i'm using ubuntu and installed xfce desktop..i want to change to slim from gdm..how can i do this? i couldn't find anything on google
[11:37] <t3mper> mclure, don't really know about an eee-pc setup. what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:38] <mclure> t3mper: eeeubuntu. no problems at all on my other HP laptop running ubuntu
[11:38] <Mechdave> Dusk_, http://slim.berlios.de/
[11:38] <t3mper> it's been my experience that removing OO is difficult, btw.
[11:38] <eye_pee> hello overly enormous channel of people.
[11:39] <Maveas> How do I unpack a zip file with tar?
[11:40] <mclure> t3mper: thanks for the helpp anyway
[11:40] <Mechdave> Maveas, you can't
[11:40] <bullgard4> How to edit the items in the panel menubar?
[11:40] <eye_pee> use unzip for zip files
[11:40] <Mechdave> Maveas, you need to install zip
[11:40] <erUSUL> Mechdave: you use unzip not tar
[11:40] <Mechdave> erUSUL, Yep you sure do
[11:40] <erUSUL> bullgard4: rightclick on the menu bar choose edit
[11:41] <t3mper> mclure, np. sori wasn't so helpful
[11:41] <Mechdave> Maveas, you need to install unzip rather
[11:41] <Maveas> via apt-get?
[11:41] <Maveas> :)
[11:41] <Mechdave> Maveas, Yep sure do
[11:42] <Mechdave> Maveas, you also need to use sudo with apt-get if you are using the terminal
[11:42] <erUSUL> Mechdave: once unzip is installed you can right click the file and choose Extract... or Extract here
[11:43] <Maveas> Thanks guys..
[11:43] <bullgard4> erUSUL: It is 'Edit Menus'.  --  Thank you very much for your help.
[11:43] <Mechdave> Maveas, No worries mate, check back if you still have trouble :)
[11:43] <t3mper> Maveas, what'r you installing, by the way?
[11:43] <erUSUL> bullgard4: my desktop is in spanish so i try to say it in the more general way... ;P no problem
[11:44] <bullgard4> erUSUL: Gracias!
[11:44] <Maveas> Trying to install AlienArena 2008 :)
[11:44] <t3mper> ah.
[11:44] <erUSUL> bullgard4: no hay de que :)
[11:44]  * eye_pee realizes that after spending enough time in this channel, you feel a certain zen when in the openbsd channel....ponders...
[11:45] <erUSUL> Maveas: openarena is aviable as deb from repositories and from getdeb.net
[11:45] <erUSUL> !info openarena
[11:45] <Maveas> What is deb?
[11:45] <erUSUL> !deb
[11:45] <mib_mvsvci> Anyone knows any way to force an unmount?
[11:45] <Maveas> Sweet
[11:46] <t3mper> remove the usb directly :)
[11:46] <erUSUL> Maveas: the point is just install it from aplications>Add/Remove
[11:46] <mib_mvsvci> Its not a usb
[11:46] <Mechdave> Maveas, you use apt-get to install the debs
[11:46] <Maveas> But I want to learn how to use the terminal and commands :D
[11:47] <Mechdave> Maveas, That is ok, give me a sec to get some reference material for you
[11:47] <erUSUL> !software | Maveas
[11:47] <Maveas> I dont understand how linux just install everything by it self ..
[11:47] <t3mper> Maveas, to install open arena, type in a terminal >> sudo apt-get install openarena
[11:47] <Maveas> And where it goes..
[11:47] <Mechdave> Maveas,  That command page -->https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/basic-commands/C/  I recommend you bookmark this page and refer to it often
[11:47] <Maveas> Thanks for the link
[11:48] <Mechdave> Maveas,  Another more comprehensive list of commands id here --> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[11:48] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:48] <c0re__> Hello. i am looking for a script to connect to internet via ppp on boot. can anyone help me with it please?
[11:48] <eye_pee> maveas> it's magic. let's just leave it at that.
[11:48] <ikonia> c0re__ you can use network manager
[11:48] <erUSUL> c0re__: i think you can automate that via interfaces file... "man interfaces"
[11:49] <Mechdave> Maveas, That will get you started and along the way, please remember that  it takes time as well, I have been playing with Linux for 10 years and I still am learning every day
[11:49] <Maveas> Thank you so much :-)
[11:49] <Administrator_> linux lacks of standard that's why you are learning everyday
[11:50] <eye_pee> lol
[11:50] <Chaotic_Descent> Hey, I'm trying to install XAMPP under Ubuntu
[11:50] <Mechdave> Maveas, No problem, always happy to help
[11:50] <Administrator_> you dont learn new things, you just learn different ways to do same things
[11:50] <Mechdave> Administrator_, why do you say that?
[11:50] <erUSUL> c0re__: something like iface ppp0 inet ppp
[11:50] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: why not just install mysql/apache/php ?
[11:50] <Chaotic_Descent> and the instructions say to type the command "su". ... it doesn't like any of my passwords. normally I use my own password for stuff like "sudo".
[11:50] <erUSUL> c0re__: provider myprovider
[11:50] <Administrator_> i say what i think, that's why
[11:51] <erUSUL> c0re__: something like iface ppp0 inet ppp <newline> provider myprovider in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <Panarchy> Hello! I've got a question about fixing a functionality: as II've noticed that on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:51] <erUSUL> c0re__: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
[11:51] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I don't know... I can't handle really complicated things... it took me many attempts over the years to even get an AMP package up and running...
[11:51] <erUSUL> Chaotic_Descent: use sudo instead of su
[11:52] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: install the package php5, apache2, and mysql-server your done
[11:52] <Chaotic_Descent> erUSUL: ... oh. thanks.
[11:52] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: much eaier than anything else
[11:52] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: it will take you 30 seconds to install those 3 packages
[11:52] <Mechdave> Administrator_, I recommend you read this -->http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB
[11:52] <erUSUL> Chaotic_Descent: do what ikonia says if a lamp server is what you are setting up
[11:52] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: oh... easier than trying to install XAMPP? I mean... I'm also worried about setting them up after they're installed.
[11:52] <erUSUL> !lamp
[11:53] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent MUCH easlier
[11:53] <Panarchy> double Ps
[11:53] <Panarchy> LAPP
[11:53] <Panarchy> LAMPP
[11:53] <Panarchy> now known as XAMPP for Linux
[11:53] <ikonia> Panarchy: no
[11:53] <ikonia> Panarchy: LAMP
[11:53] <ikonia> Panarchy: no
[11:54] <ikonia> Panarchy: they are different products, check the URL that erUSUL posted
[11:54] <Panarchy> yes: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[11:54] <Panarchy> oh, different products?
[11:54] <Yuretsz> How can I add a string to the beginning of file? Just like echo 'string' >> file.txt , but to the beginning
[11:54] <Panarchy> ok then
[11:54] <ikonia> Panarchy different techniques
[11:54] <Panarchy> Hello! I've got a question about fixing a functionality: as II've noticed that on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:55] <Chaotic_Descent> It's going to take me a lot longer than 30 seconds.
[11:55] <fde> Panarchy: you need to turn the desktop effects back on as its a default feature of that
[11:55] <Maveas> i cant find dep with apt-get install
[11:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[11:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: done
[11:55] <Maveas> What is the module/app called?
[11:56] <Mechdave> Maveas, you won't
[11:56] <Maveas> Ah, Ubuntu got it from start? :P
[11:56] <Chaotic_Descent> Sorry, I'm just not very proficient.
[11:56] <fde> Panarchy: right click desktop > change desktop wallpaper > visual effects tab... set to at least "normal"
[11:56] <Nimbus_2008> hello, any modem expert here ? :)
[11:56] <Panarchy> fde:
[11:56] <Panarchy> Thanks
[11:57] <Chaotic_Descent> crap. I think my primary partition is getting too small.
[11:57] <Panarchy> How do I boot into (before creating the iso) the liveCD user?
[11:57] <Maveas> Hmm, I've searched "OpenArena" but isn't that the old version? There is a AlienArena 2008 today?
[11:57] <ikonia> Panarchy you can't you need to boot a livecd to use the livecd user
[11:58] <Mechdave> Maveas, a deb is what the format of the package is called.. eg a program called xyz packaged in deb format would be called xyz.deb
[11:58] <Panarchy> then how do I customise the settings I need before making an ISO (making a custom build of Ubuntu)
[11:58] <fde> Maveas: alien and open arena are two very different projects... alien arena doesn't release the code for the maps etc, open arena does
[11:58] <eye_pee> Yuretsz> maybe "echo 'string'>file2.txt ; cat file.txt>>file2.txt ; mv file2.txt file.txt"   totally butchered way to do it, but it'd work.
[11:58] <Panarchy> Maveas: deb stands for Debian, which is built on linux and is what ubuntu is built on
[11:59] <Maveas> Ok. Is OpenArena as good and up2date as AlienArena?
[11:59] <fde> Maveas: sure
[11:59] <erUSUL> Maveas: AlienArena is not the same game as OpenArena
[11:59] <Finnish> How do I find out what dvd-player is in my laptop?
[12:00] <eye_pee> read the label. :-p
[12:00] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:00] <erUSUL> Finnish: by default totem but you can install vlc; xine-ui mplayer etc
[12:00] <Mechdave> Finnish, lspci in a terminal will sometimes tell you
[12:00] <Yuretsz> eye_pee: I think. I'll use your way but. That's totally mess :) So simple operation
[12:00] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons
[12:00] <Finnish> lspci doesn't tell me that
[12:00] <Mechdave> Finnish, Do you mean hardware or the software
[12:01] <Finnish> hardware
[12:01] <Mechdave> Finnish, lspci in a terminal will sometimes tell you
[12:01] <erUSUL> Finnish: dmesg | grep -i dvd
[12:01] <eye_pee> Yuretsz> yeah, it's a horrible solution, but short of writing a script to do it, I can't think of a bash way to accomplish that. :-p
[12:01] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:01] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons
[12:01] <Mechdave> Finnish, or lspci -v for more info
[12:01] <Finnish> erUSUL: Thanks
[12:02] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise what icons are on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE
[12:02] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:02] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons
[12:02] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise what icons are on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE
[12:02] <fde> Panarchy: stop repeating yourself! can't you just do that stuff after install?
[12:02] <erUSUL> Mechdave: lspci will not tell you the dvd drive is not attached to the pci bus is attached to the PATA, SATA, USB or SCSI  buses
[12:02] <Panarchy> fde: No, sorry, it has to be done before creation of ISO
[12:02] <fde> Panarchy: why?
[12:03] <Panarchy> you see, I'm creating my own distribution built on linux
[12:03] <Panarchy> and I want it to be customised and streamlined perfectly for it's need
[12:03] <fde> Panarchy: other distros have better tools for that end
[12:04] <scopecreep> is there any reason i should use ext2? it seems a good bit faster to me
[12:05] <eye_pee> so, I wrote an abstract story/poem about operating systems. mostly related to linux/openbsd. the bsd guys don't want to read it. :-p anyone in here interested?
[12:05] <scopecreep> *shouldnt
[12:05] <Panarchy> don't use ext2
[12:05] <Chaotic_Descent> what command shows you free space? dh or something?
[12:05] <SlimeyPete> Chaotic_Descent: df -h
[12:05] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:05] <erUSUL> Yuretsz: echo "String" | cat - file.txt
[12:05] <Mechdave> !off-topic > eye_pee
[12:05] <Maveas> Anyways, I'm trying both OpenArena and AlienArena. How do I install AlienArena? Is there a script which does it all for me?
[12:06] <Mechdave> Oops that didn't work LOL
[12:06] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks. I gotta write it down this time.
[12:06] <Mechdave> Oo it did...
[12:06] <erUSUL> Yuretsz: once you verified autput save it → echo "String" | cat - file.txt > newfile.txt
[12:07] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO? The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons. What I need to do is customise what icons are on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE
[12:07] <erUSUL> scopecreep: ext3 is journaled → more resilient to power outages and the like
[12:07] <nillerz> Hello
[12:07] <Bear-Lt> Hello!
[12:07] <nillerz> Can anyone help me get my mic working?
[12:07] <erUSUL> !repeat | Panarchy
[12:08] <scopecreep> erUSUL, i have a ups though, im not worried about that at all
[12:08] <nillerz> I have trouble since it won't record at all. It's as though it doesn't exist
[12:08] <Bear-Lt> Could someone help me about the network issue I have on Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:08] <fde> Panarchy: here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys  but note its not part of Ubuntu, so don't ask here for assistance with it.
[12:08] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact search with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:08] <Chaotic_Descent> ... uhm... is there any GUI for installing PHP, MySQL, and Apache? I don't see anything listed under my Applications pulldown menu...
[12:08] <Mechdave> Bear-Lt, Just ask dude
[12:08] <nillerz> Chaotic_Descent: LAMP
[12:08] <Chaotic_Descent> isn't there a GUI for XAMPP?
[12:08] <Panarchy> sorry, last paste, hope someone can help me out
[12:09] <Wargasm> does photoshop work in WINE?
[12:09] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:09] <nillerz> or XAMPP
[12:09] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is change the wallpaper and the desktop icons.
[12:09] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise which icons appear on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE.
[12:09] <scopecreep> is journaling the only difference though?
[12:09] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <Panarchy> Wargasm
[12:09] <uffo> with last wifi problem with ndiswrapper test i just reinstalled ubuntu, for me it is alot easyer. Now i want know what is wrong with integrated driver that my wifi has poor quality, do not blame router because others has signal quality good even from other floor.?
[12:09] <Panarchy> yeah, pretty sure so
[12:09] <Chaotic_Descent> ... but they told me it was easier to install the parts separately instead of installing XAMPP.
[12:09] <fde> Panarchy: STOP repeating yourself...
[12:09] <Panarchy> also GIMP is the alternative to photoshop
[12:10] <Wargasm> I've been using GIMP, but I like photoshop
[12:10] <scopecreep> Wargasm, check out crossover, it runs photoshop
[12:10]  * Chaotic_Descent gets a sick feeling in his stomach.
[12:10] <Wargasm> ah, thanks for the tip scopecreep
[12:10] <Yuretsz> erUSUL: Yeah, thats looks simpler
[12:10] <scopecreep> i dont have the newest version though
[12:10] <scopecreep> im poor ;]
[12:10] <fde> Wargasm: yes, photoshop works in wine... google invested quite a lot to ensure that
[12:11] <Wargasm> thanks for the info fde
[12:11] <fde> Wargasm: should be no reason to have crossover
[12:11] <nillerz> Anyone have any idea on the whole microphone not working?
[12:11] <nillerz> Is there a quick fix?
[12:11] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact search with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:11] <Wargasm> i'll use WINE if possible, fde.
[12:11] <nillerz> A simple line in the command prompt that makes it work?
[12:12] <Bear-Lt> I have an Acer Aspire One (A110L) laptop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne says, that my wired network should work out of the box, but it doesn't. I have to use static IP adress. When I enter the parameters I can't ping the main PC (I get Destination Host Unreachable), which shares the network. Parameters are correct. Used GUI version of configuration, and via terminal. Always the same. Any suggestions?
[12:13] <Chaotic_Descent> why was I told it would be not only easier to install but to set up Apache, MySQL, and PHP separately, rather than through XAMPP? Is this universally easier, or just easier for certain people who can get around without GUIs?
[12:13] <Bear-Lt> (using same parameters, same cable another PC works with network just great)
[12:13] <uffo> how to install multiple packages at one click? i like offline installing but every time i reinstall ubuntu i must install packages click by click
[12:13] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, This may be silly question.. but have you already tested that IP with another machine?
[12:14] <Bear-Lt> I have tested that IP with anoter machine
[12:14] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, Sorry was typing as you were giving that info...
[12:14] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, Not suer.. Here at work I use dynamic IP and proxy on cabled and works fine.
[12:14] <Bear-Lt> :) that's not a problem.
[12:15] <Bear-Lt> I can't use dynamic IP
[12:15] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: ?
[12:15] <Bear-Lt> on the main PC there are strict firewall parameters. I can't modify them, I'm not root.
[12:15] <huff3r> Brined and smoked... for turkey day
[12:15] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, I know what you mean... I have to use a fixed IP on the machine I'm typing from now. But it's a Windows box
[12:16] <uffo> dynamic ip do not help multiple package install
[12:16] <Chaotic_Descent> .... T_T
[12:17] <Chaotic_Descent> how do you find out what to do with apps after they
[12:17] <Chaotic_Descent> how do you find out what to do with apps after they're installed? I tried "man php5" and it doesn't exist so... like... ... I'm totally lost.
[12:17] <Bear-Lt> any other suggestions about my network issue?
[12:18] <|Osiris> hi
[12:19] <Panarchy> Hello
[12:19] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO? (using remastersys)
[12:19] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is change the wallpaper, programs installed & desktop icons.
[12:19] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise which icons appear on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE.
[12:19] <Panarchy> Please tell me how to do these two things.
[12:19] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance,
[12:19] <egberto> hi
[12:19] <Chaotic_Descent> I... try. but... there was nothing in any Linux beginner tutorials about where to find info on applications you've installed.
[12:20] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=391932
[12:20] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, can you be a little more specific?
[12:20] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, I know what you mean... I have to use a fixed IP on the machine I'm typing from now. But it's a Windows box
[12:20] <|Osiris> can someone help me with cronjobs?
[12:20] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: PHP5, MySQL, Apache. I was told to install it instead of XAMPP. I have no GUI. I have no idea how to set them up.
[12:20] <|Osiris> I have some custom scripts in the /etc/cron.daily but they are nog executed
[12:20] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact match with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:21] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I was told it would be easier to set up than XAMPP. not just easier to install.
[12:21] <Panarchy> Chaotic_Descent
[12:21] <Panarchy> XAMPP will be one of the most easy things to install on ubuntu
[12:22] <Panarchy> there are only two things that are easier to install than XAMPP on Ubuntu
[12:22] <Panarchy> that is;
[12:22] <Panarchy> apt-get
[12:22] <Panarchy> and
[12:22] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <Panarchy> .deb files
[12:22] <Chaotic_Descent> great. I guess they were playing a trick on me then. :(
[12:22] <jrib> !lamp > Chaotic_Descent
[12:22] <Chaotic_Descent> never even heard of .deb files.
[12:22] <jrib> Chaotic_Descent: they are setup after you install, nothing else to be done.  see ubottu
[12:23] <Panarchy> deb stands for debian
[12:23] <Panarchy> it's the default installer thing for ubuntu
[12:23] <Panarchy> it's like the exe or msi from windows, but for ubuntu
[12:23] <fde> Panarchy: stop with the misinformation
[12:23] <Panarchy> apt uses them, I think
[12:23] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, wow, ok you need to go to apache.org and read up on the apache server especially with php5 then you need to read up on mysql http://www.mysql.com
[12:23] <Panarchy> fde, I know it was an over-simplification
[12:24] <Chaotic_Descent> should I uninstall PHP, MySQL, and Apache before I install XAMPP, or it's all the same?
[12:24] <uffo> how to install multiple packages at one click? i like offline installing but every time i reinstall ubuntu i must install packages click by click.
[12:24] <fde> !clone > uffo
[12:24] <jrib> Chaotic_Descent: it's recommended that you install LAMP from the repositories
[12:24] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I have set up a LAMP server before, it takes a lot of reading and a lot of time to understand it and make it reasonably secure
[12:24] <Panarchy> I think you can put them on many lines
[12:24] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: what? wouldn't that be kind of disjointed reading about those things independently?
[12:25] <fde> uffo: keep the resulting file on google docs or something  :)
[12:25] <Panarchy> by that I mean
[12:25] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install irss sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:25] <mikethk> hi there. Im want to use chatzilla instead of xchat for irc. can someone gives me the information i need to use? I tried what i can find out
[12:25] <uffo> fde: please simple GUI way
[12:25] <Chaotic_Descent> I searched for AMP in the synaptic package manager and found nothing.
[12:25] <fde> Panarchy: no... just sudo apt-get install this that and something else
[12:25] <Panarchy> yeah, what fde said
[12:25] <Panarchy> lol
[12:25] <fde> uffo: there is no simple gui method...
[12:25] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, No not really, you will tie it all together once you start running your applications on your server, eg. like wordpress for example
[12:26] <fde> uffo: its two commands, even if there was a gui method, it'd be more difficult
[12:26] <Panarchy> anyways, if anyone has any ideas on how I can fix my distro, please don't hesitate to post
[12:26] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=391932
[12:26] <Panarchy> (oops wrong link)
[12:26] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6241304
[12:26] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance,
[12:26] <Panarchy> Panarchy
[12:27]  * Panarchy thinks it's time for bed
[12:27] <uffo> fde: i hope later it will be fixed in 9.04, ubuntu must be same simple as windows or maybe later ReactOS is more simple
[12:27] <Panarchy> uffo
[12:27] <Panarchy> do you understand the versioning schema of ubuntu?
[12:27] <fde> uffo: huh? Windows doesn't let you remember additional software either  :/
[12:27] <ikonia> Panarchy: are you sure you posted teh right forum url?
[12:28] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Also PHP5 and Apache are sort of tied together, the documentation for both is on http://www.apache.org
[12:28] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: well ... I tried to read about SQL... many times over the years... and it was hard to put into practice... because it didn't really do anything. ... ... I don't know. maybe people in depression can't learn to make databases.
[12:28] <mikethk> can someone give me this URL for this channel?
[12:28] <ikonia> mikethk there isn't one
[12:28] <ikonia> mikethk: it's an irc channel
[12:28] <Wargasm> how do i run programs in WINE?
[12:28] <ikonia> !wine > Wargasm
[12:28] <Panarchy> ikonia: yes
[12:28] <fde> Wargasm: wine whatever.exe
[12:29] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact match with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:29] <Wargasm> thank you, fde
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy thats posted by a guy in brazil and your in austrailia
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: the thread about learning python ?
[12:29] <adac> Hmm somehow my borders of the windows have dissapeared... I cannot make a window bigger or smaller anymor and I cannort close it. Any ideas what is wrong?
[12:29] <uffo> fde: is that works if i try to make mplayer portable with extracting deb files and keeping file structure, maybe there is some launcher script to link dependencies from other locations?
[12:29] <mikethk> ikonia, I want to use chatzilla instead of xchat how to connect to this channel?
[12:29] <Panarchy> what
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=624130
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: did I copy it wrong
[12:29] <Panarchy> thread about learning python?
[12:29] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I went to university to learn about SQL and it still doesn't make too much sense, although if you have a large database you can get information out of it really well if you know how to write SQl queries
[12:29] <Panarchy> no, this
[12:29] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6241304
[12:29] <ikonia> mikethk /server irc.freenode.net channel #ubuntu
[12:29] <fde> uffo: that's what I just told you how to do  :/
[12:29] <Panarchy> ah
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: missed off the 4 - sorry
[12:30] <Panarchy> 4 must've got deleted somehow
[12:30] <Panarchy> lol
[12:30] <Chaotic_Descent> there's no LAMP in Synaptic Package Manager... so rather than try and drive myself crazy looking for it, I'm just going to download and install XAMPP... I can't handle all these complications with people telling me to use stuff without giving me a reason why I should all of a sudden change what I was doing before.
[12:30] <sinuc> which variable is that thats perl checking for its .pm files there?
[12:30] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent php5/apache2/mysql-server thats just the packages you need
[12:30] <fde> uffo: well, if I am understanding that ramble well enough
[12:30] <Panarchy> #perl
[12:30] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, What were you doing before?
[12:30]  * Panarchy says Good Night (before midnight!)
[12:30] <Tazsta-LN> gday all just woundering if anyone can help me get a realtek RTL-8185 wireless card working
[12:30] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: XAMPP
[12:30] <nachi_> hey. i got a user cook1 and i want to put a bash script into /bin so the user can execute it from anywhere on the shell, i know its unsafe, so how can i restrict the script to run only for that user?
[12:30]  * Panarchy leaves
[12:30] <Panarchy> exit
[12:31] <uffo> fde: but is there some deb package editor to merge all deb packages in one giant .deb
[12:31] <Chaotic_Descent> Neither XAMPP or LAMP are in the package manger.
[12:31] <nachi_> put it on /user/sbin?
[12:31] <Chaotic_Descent> manager. god damn.
[12:31] <dr_willis> nachi_,  why not make a bin directory in cook1's home dir..
[12:31] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent php5/apache2/mysql-server - install those 3 packages
[12:31] <dr_willis> nachi_,  thats the normal way to add a script to a users path/
[12:31] <fde> uffo: no... look up how to create a meta-package though... or just do what I said  :/
[12:31] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: I even gave you the exact command line to do uit
[12:31] <jrib> Chaotic_Descent: you are lost because you didn't read the link I had ubottu give you
[12:31] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I did.
[12:31] <mikethk_> ikonia: im using it now writing to you :D thx.
[12:31] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, If that is what you know and you are under time pressures, by all means stick with it :)
[12:31] <fde> uffo: creating the .deb would be more difficult than what I suggested to you
[12:31] <nachi_> .. /bin/userpath ?
[12:31] <ikonia> mikethk_: no problem
[12:31] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and what's the problem ?
[12:31] <nachi_> anyone can execute it no?
[12:32] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I don't know what to do after installing them. I can't find where they went or how to set them up.
[12:32] <dr_willis> nachi_,  bash basics and PATHbasics..  the directory /home/USERNAME/bin if seen is added to the users default PATH.
[12:32] <adac> Can somebody tell me how to restor the window decoration? Smaller, greater and close...those window decorations have dissapeared here
[12:32] <adac> *restore
[12:32] <dr_willis> nachi_,  that will do exactly what you are wanting.. keep your own commands in  the users  own 'bin' directory
[12:32]  * fde wonders why n00bs argue with experienced users like they know better?
[12:32] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://lamphowto.com/
[12:33] <dr_willis> fde,  ive noticed  the less people know on a topic the more they inssist their oponion matters.. :) in more then just pc's
[12:33] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: it's not time pressure. it's stress pressure. trying to make sense out of too many things. switching gears constantly.
[12:33] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[12:33] <Rekreativc> how do I find out what charecter table Im using in emacs?
[12:33] <uffo> fde: but i might accept that harder way if i can merge all deb files in one because i must often reinstall ubuntu and if i install it to other then it would be simple to install with one deb pack
[12:33] <nachi_> yeah so other users cannot execute it
[12:33] <fde> dr_willis: heh... true... only been using Debian based for about 12 years... what do I know?  :S
[12:34] <dr_willis> nachi_,  my own user, has proberly 400+ scripts in their bin directory. :)
[12:34] <sunrise987> what is a 802.11 header?
[12:34] <fde> uffo: you can't, you'd just make a .deb that depends everything else... and you'd still need to use half of my method to get the list of packages you want added
[12:34] <Tyrath> sunrise987: 802.11 sounds like WiFi
[12:34] <nachi_> so just put it on /bin ?
[12:34] <tomahowk_> goodafternoon
[12:34] <dr_willis> nachi_,  NO.. as i said  /home/USERNAME/bin
[12:34] <Chaotic_Descent> I've only been told XAMPP is easy. is LAMP as easy?
[12:34] <dr_willis> nachi_,  each user can have their own bin directory
[12:35] <tomahowk_> i have problems sharing files from my Xubuntu pc, to my windows Vista
[12:35] <nachi_> how ? i got to my user i dont see there
[12:35] <B|ackPanther> How can i obtain the installation path of firefox ?
[12:35] <dr_willis> nachi_,  or you could put it in some other directory and alter the .bashrc or .bashprofile to set the proper PATH variable.
[12:35] <uffo> fde: ok i just install them with my easyest way like i always do with installing one by one until mplayer has all dependencies ok
[12:35] <dr_willis> nachi_, ... err... make the directory? :) logical eh?
[12:35] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Everything is hard at first, it just gets easier with knowledge ;)
[12:35] <AUTOEXEC> after installing apache2, mysql and php _separately_, i screwed my apache2 and when nothing helped installed xampp. however now xampp will not startup neither proftpd nor mysql (saying correctly that both are already running). i'm a newbie: should i rather a) implement mysql & proftpd to xampp b) remove proftpd & mysql & reinstall xampp or even c) reinstall ubuntu and manually install apache2, mysql and php? i found this to be easy as lo
[12:35] <AUTOEXEC> ig.
[12:35] <fde> Chaotic_Descent: XAMPP sounds like its X-based LAMP... there is an apache configuration tool that would make it easier, but just dive in if you know what you're doing
[12:36] <fde> !clone > uffo
[12:36] <Chaotic_Descent> XAMPP is multiplatform.
[12:36] <fde> uffo: or just use the easy method  :/
[12:36] <AUTOEXEC> how do i start this xampp config tool=
[12:36] <AUTOEXEC> ?
[12:36] <fde> uffo: selecting everything individually in synaptic or wherever is NOT the easiest way... but a LONG shot
[12:36] <c0re__> anyone know BASH scripting here?
[12:36] <Tyrath> I have a problem with wireless. I've configured wireless to start on boot so I don't have to fire up the GUI in order to use wireless but as a result I can't connect to the internet wired and when I remove the cable I can't connect to wireless unless I reboot. could someone give me a fix to this?
[12:36] <c0re__> !bash
[12:36] <tomahowk_> join #Xubuntu
[12:36] <tomahowk_> owh...
[12:36] <dr_willis> !abs | c0re_
[12:37] <fde> s/but/by/
[12:37] <enzotib> c0re__, what is your problem?
[12:37] <c0re__> dr_willis,  i already create an init.d script...
[12:37] <AUTOEXEC>  MySQL is accessible by the network - what does this exactly mean?
[12:37] <c0re__> enzotib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/76374/
[12:38] <Tyrath> anyone?
[12:38] <B|ackPanther> Is there a better command of locating a file other than "locate" .I want to find the installation path of mozilla .
[12:38] <dr_willis> B|ackPanther,  try 'which mozilla' ? perhaps
[12:38] <fde> B|ackPanther: you can just dpkg -L <package> to see where its files went
[12:38] <Tyrath> AUTOEXEC: that you can access your database via MySQL?
[12:38] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, There is a web based tool for LAMP too... called myphpadmin -->http://www.phpmyadmin.net/
[12:39] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: did you install the 3 packages I suggested ?
[12:39] <uffo> fde: i do not even understand this way what you offer, i only can use GUI ways. i have folder mplayer where is all debs and i click then i install and install by clicking debs, i use wheather synaptic only for uninstall
[12:39] <Tyrath> dr_willis: would you know how to fix my wireless problem?
[12:39] <c0re__> enzotib, you there? can i pm you?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:39] <mohsin_> Nvidia dual head with ubuntu 8.10: http://pastebin.com/mc7161a1
[12:39] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  not a clue. i rarely use wireless
[12:39] <Chaotic_Descent> I think maybe... I just can't handle this right now. I don't know if that's... for the foreseeable future or just because I need to go to bed...
[12:39] <Tyrath> dr_willis: do you use wired?
[12:40] <C0p3rn1c> hi ActionParsnip,wb :)
[12:40] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, for the database side of things, you still need to get the PHP and Apache going tho
[12:40] <Tyrath> dr_willis: actually don't answer that
[12:40] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: did you install the 3 packages I suggested ?
[12:40] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  :) if im not using wireless... what else is there.. :P
[12:40] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: jesus christ I told you I did!
[12:40] <enzotib> c0re__, ok, but i don't know if i can help you
[12:40] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: I missed that,
[12:40] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  8.10 for the first time actually has wireless working for me on my 2 laptops
[12:40] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i tried to sneak in a don't answer that, not sure if you got it :P i realised my mistake
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> wifi out of the box here :D
[12:40] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: ok, so if you have installed the 3 packages, you should now have "lamp" working, what exactly is the issue ?
[12:40] <Tyrath> dr_willis: that's awesome
[12:40] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I understand you are getting frustrated, but please mind your language
[12:40] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I have no idea where anything is.
[12:41] <fde> uffo: dpkg --get-selections fetches a list of packages currently installed, this is then redirected at a file.... it then uses dpkg --set-selections ... and takes the file as an argument ... the last part then applies these selections
[12:41] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent such as, ? what are you expecting ?
[12:41] <Tyrath> dr_willis: what does your /etc/network/interface file read?
[12:41] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I'm expecting something at least as easy as XAMPP. -_-;
[12:41] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent what are you looking for ?
[12:41] <fde> !cloning > uffo
[12:41] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: what don't you know where "it" is  ?
[12:41] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Did you have a look at the sites I suggested?
[12:41] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: a button. a starting point. anything.
[12:41] <fde> uffo: same result, but maybe that makes more sense?
[12:41] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i'm trying to work out why if i'm happily running on wireless, if i attach a wire, i loose connection
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent a button ???? you have not wrote an application yet
[12:42] <Tyrath> dr_willis: then if I detach from the wire i don't get my wireless connection back :/
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: lamp is "apache/mysql/php" running together, you have that, you now need to install/write a website
[12:42] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: right then. this was a trick then. it's not easier to set up than XAMPP.
[12:42] <uffo> fde: how do i use that thing you sent
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent of course it is, 30 seconds to setup
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and it's running now
[12:42] <dr_willis> Tyrath,   just 2 lines..   auto lo
[12:42] <dr_willis>                  iface lo inet loopback
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and it's on a platform we can support
[12:43] <Tyrath> dr_willis: gah. i was afraid you'd say that. thanks anyhow
[12:43] <fde> uffo: you just type in in Applications > Accessories > Terminal ...
[12:43] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, what is your eventual aim to do with a LAMP server?
[12:43] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  thats because its the network manager tool/sustem, that handles it.. you are bypassing network manager totally it seems
[12:43] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i'm trying but failing :/
[12:43] <KingOfDos> is there some general known problem with the nl.archive.ubuntu.com repository?
[12:43] <uffo> fde: i pasted all that text in terminal but nothing
[12:43] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i'm trying to loose my dependency on the GUI
[12:43] <KingOfDos> I'd get a 403 Forbidden while doing a do-release-update
[12:43] <fde> uffo: not all of it... ugh
[12:44] <fde> uffo: did you actually read what the factoid said?
[12:44] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I wanted to learn databases... although my biggest goal seems to have been tackled by someone else already. I guess I can only do other small projects or maybe learn to contribute to his... it's a Transformers (those robot toys) database.
[12:44] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i still will need the GUI for most graphical things, just shouldn't need it for basic things like wireless
[12:44] <KingOfDos> When i'd dig the nl.archive.ubuntu.com it seems that it's resolving to ubuntuarchive.bit.nl, and there i'd get the error.
[12:44] <uffo> fde: i am GUI user of windows and reactos so i can only know GUI
[12:44] <Tyrath> does anyone run straight off console mode and use wireless?
[12:44] <fde> uffo: its not rocket science, you just refuse to do things the quick way
[12:44] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent you can learn databases, you have an emtpry database instance up and running, ready to go
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: I can,
[12:45] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I'm sure there were other projects I wanted to do... I just don't remember... I think I wanted to learn how to format the database data into really nice output.
[12:45] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: so when you boot does your comp automatically connect through wireless? or do you need to fire up te GUI?
[12:45] <uffo> fde: then make me text that i can just paste to terminal
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: I manually edit /etc/network/interfaces so it is configured automatically
[12:45] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: you've got a great environment %100 ready to go for that
[12:45] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I did the same thing, but as a result I can't use wired internet
[12:45] <fde> uffo: just read the factoid... it says exactly what to copy and paste
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: so all i have to do is sudo ifup ath0 and i have connectivity
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: you've got a lamp install ready and waiting for you to install and learn php/mysql based applications
[12:46] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: doesn't there need to be user accounts set up and stuff? which isn't ... I mean... where do I plug stuff in?
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: it's a great tool sat ready to go
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: do you have lines in the file for the wired connection as well?
[12:46] <uffo> fde: you mean that aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent already done
[12:46] <syslogd> Hi
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: web root is /var/www
[12:46] <syslogd> How do I install ntfsck on Ubuntu?
[12:46] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: really? where do I put my MySQL commands?
[12:46] <syslogd> ntfsprogs is already installed.
[12:46] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I do, and it works, only when I detach a wire the comp doesn't reconnect through wireless
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: type mysql and your in the client shell
[12:46] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Ok then you need to learn some programming in PHP so you can format the output nicely and you need to use myphpAdmin to put the data into the database. This means yo need some tutorials on writing PHP and tutorials on MySQL
[12:47] <KingOfDos> Ah, it seems that the be.archive.ubuntu.com is working nice. Is here someone that manages the repositorys?
[12:47] <ikonia> !lamp > Chaotic_Descent
[12:47] <fde> uffo: that goes on the first machine... yes... then you need to get the resulting my-packages file to the other machine, or the new install ... I suggest via docs.google.com
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: read the docu ubottu's just sent you for an overview
[12:47] <fde> uffo: then you can copy and paste the latter part on the new Ubuntu install
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: do you restart networking when you attatc the cable
[12:47] <KingOfDos> And that one that manages the repository, please call BIT that there host is down
[12:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ie, off boot i get wireless. if i connect a cable i loose wireless, if i disconnect the cable i stil don't have wireless
[12:47] <Chaotic_Descent> Yes I KNOW what LAMP is! *groan*
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: no-one said you didn't
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: ty running it from terminal, you will get intelligent outputs
[12:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: how do I do that?
[12:47] <syslogd> Is there a .deb for ntfsck?
[12:47] <Chaotic_Descent> I mean at least what the letters stand for.
[12:47] <uffo> fde: synaptic should include open .deb and esolve all dependencies
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: those documents show you how to use it, which you don't know
[12:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ifconfig?
[12:47] <frith> hello, I am thinking about dual booting, ubuntu 64 and 32 with a shared /home
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: actually read the documents
[12:48] <dr_willis> !find ntfsck
[12:48] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, The reason I point you to phpMyAdmin is because it will run on your lamp server and it is reasonably simple to put a database together with
[12:48] <fde> uffo: it does... but that's not what you're trying to do... you want to have the same package sets across distros...
[12:48] <ikonia> frith: pointless unless you have a need for 2 seperate distros, but go for it
[12:48] <Chaotic_Descent> I was trying to figure out if they were the right documents for me to read.
[12:48] <fde> uffo: or rather, across installs
[12:48] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: they are
[12:48] <Tyrath> !find xrandr
[12:48] <kingriver> 有没有会说中国话的？
[12:48] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Hang on about those documents... I shall give you a start
[12:48] <frith> ikonia, not pointless if you are comparing the two
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:48] <ikonia> frith as I said unless you have a specific reason to run the two
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: you will see messages
[12:49] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: why LAMP instead of XAMPP though?
[12:49] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'll try it now. If i can't reconnect after disconnect you'll know why :P
[12:49] <frith> i was more interested in if people had found issues with sharing fs's between 32/64,
[12:49] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent because xampp makes it's own internal "platform" to run which conflicts with the ubuntu packages, (or any other distro)
[12:49] <frith> some years ago i mounted an ext3 from a 32bit distro to a 64bit and it smashed the fs
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !xampp
[12:49] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://www.php.net/tut.php http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/627 <-- for PHP
[12:49] <fde> uffo: you really shouldn't be scared of terminals though, it makes everything about a million times easier and quicker when you learn it... most GUI tools just use the command line for you...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !info xampp
[12:49] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: there is no need for that when the 3 packages are made by ubuntu and ready to go
[12:49] <uffo> fde: i just want install faster but my ubuntu 8.10 synaptic do not have option "open .deb file"
[12:50] <fde> uffo: gdebi does that... but for one package at a time... and it doesn't do deps
[12:50] <frith> can you make encrypted partitions from the gui installer now?
[12:51] <st3ph> ActionParsnip, my 8.10 works fine now without errors
[12:51] <ikonia> frith from the alternative cd, sure
[12:51] <fde> uffo: if you want to remember everything you've installed manually every time you install Ubuntu, that's fine... I'm telling you a quick way to get things back the way you want
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: sweet
[12:51] <frith> or should i grab the alternative
[12:51] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql_intro.html <-- to get started with MySQL
[12:51] <frith> ah
[12:51] <sunrise987> what is eth0?
[12:51] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: ok... so I got half a dozen website bookmarks.
[12:51] <fde> sunrise987: the first NIC
[12:51] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: the fact that I'm here means what you said works
[12:51] <sunrise987> why there is many NICs?
[12:52] <Acedip> guys kindly look here and tell me what does the ubuntu entry mean http://pastebin.com/m49eb017e
[12:52] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: the only thing is that wired internet still doesn't work
[12:52] <uffo> fde: i mainly use gdebi for one by one install but it should load other packs too what is in same folder. i try to make feature request to synaptics to include deb open possibility
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> sunrise987: eth0 is usually an alias for your first ethernet port
[12:52] <fde> sunrise987: many network setups require multiple NICs... your router likely doesn't have just one port, does it?
[12:52] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Cool, start reading my friend :) you will need time and patience... It took me ages to do a small blog website
[12:52] <mohsin_> i bootup i get "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" in my Xorg.0.log, how can i fix it? where is nvidia module so i can do a mod probe
[12:52] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: additionally I was wondering if there was an aliased version of /etc/init.d/networks or will I have to alias it manually - b/c remembering that location is tough :P
[12:52] <zeno> did sudo rsync -P -v -r -t -h --ignore-existing "$1" "$2", computer crashed in mid, then redid and now the result uses double the space, why? nautilus reports correct ammount but du -hs reports double
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: ok now check logs / dmesg to see whats what. Tyrath can i see you interfaces file? you can obsure any security keys etc
[12:53] <Vinceman> how long before all the MS-applications cloned in linux are finetuned so that the MS-user won't notice the difference?
[12:53] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: over pm?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: pastebin
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Tyrath
[12:53] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I'm sure I'll be thoroughly confused for too long to make any progress... like always.
[12:53] <Tyrath> ahhh ubuntu has a pastebin cool
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/networking /usr/bin/netwoking
[12:53] <fde> sunrise987: some high end router companies like Cisco use Linux on their routers...
[12:53] <sunrise987> fde: yes, it has two, but why do I need two?
[12:54] <fde> sunrise987: two boxes connecting to it?
[12:54] <Chaotic_Descent> I really hate tutorials that leave you absolutely clueless and confused for too long... I just can't endure.
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: any irc people can use any pastebin, its not exactly specifically for ubuntu
[12:54] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: as opposed to a simple alias? for example I aliased swkotor2 because typing in wine <file path> was a nuisance
[12:54] <fde> sunrise987: kinda hard to plug 10 or 100 network cables into one NIC
[12:54] <mohsin_> When i boot my machine, i get "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" can anyone tell me how can i fix it? how can i locate the nvidia module and load it?
[12:55] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I know. I usually use pastebin.ca. what i meant was i didn't realise the ubuntu site had its own pastebin
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: the symlink will put a copy in your path, makes it easier to run
[12:55] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  reinstall the nvidia drivers - would be what i would try
[12:55] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: did you symlink it?
[12:55] <sunrise987> fde: no, when I say: "iwconfig -a" I find two NICs eth0, and eth1
[12:55] <mohsin_> dr_willis: how?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: use whatever you feel like, i use the pastebinit command to create pastebins from command line
[12:55] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I get that way as well... It is best to take it easy and small steps, remember that you first have to learn a new language (PHP) and then learn SQL and then learn how to tie the two together, it is not a five minute job, take it easy and usually joining a forum or two often helps too.
[12:55] <dr_willis> !nvidia | mohsin_
[12:55] <fde> sunrise987: one is wired, one is wireless, probably
[12:55] <fde> sunrise987: eth1 will be the wireless
[12:56] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: now I would really like to know what you aliased that to
[12:56] <gigabytes> hello
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:56] <gigabytes> can the live cd of ubuntu 8.04 write on HFS+ partitions?
[12:57] <ikonia> gigabytes I think so
[12:57] <ikonia> gigabytes: I think hfs write support is enabled
[12:57] <gigabytes> ikonia: reliably?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> gigabytes: as long as the kernel has the module, yes
[12:57] <fde> gigabytes: apt-cache search hfs-plus
[12:57] <ikonia> well, thats a different matter
[12:57] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I just wish the tutorials were different...  I don't know why that's too much to ask for. To see progress while you're learning instead of stumbling around blind smashing things together... it's just not my style.
[12:57] <mohsin_> dr_willis: i don't even have the menu called Hardware Drivers.
[12:57] <gigabytes> fde: I'm talking about the live-cd.. I don't think I can install packages on the livecd...
[12:57] <fde> gigabytes: sorry, without the -
[12:58] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent we can't help you with that, I hope you've got enough information now
[12:58] <gonzalo_> hello, maybe its a silly question, but how can i "downgrade" my kernel version.. i need to install the same kernel "kind" i have, but a different version. (i have 2.6.26 and i need 2.6.22 or 2.6.20)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: you can also pipe text into the pastebinit app to give you a link
[12:58] <ikonia> gigabytes: you can install stuff on the livecd
[12:58] <fde> gigabytes: you can, they just won't stick around if you aren't using a USB stick
[12:58] <ikonia> gigabytes: why do you want to do that
[12:58] <ikonia> gigabytes: sorry - not you
[12:58] <fde> gigabytes: they won't be there after you reboot livecd session is all
[12:58] <gonzalo_> i want to do that the "ubuntu" way
[12:58] <ikonia> gonzalo_: why do you want to do that
[12:58] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, problem is that with these languages an overview does get rather involved due to the complexities of the language
[12:59] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: do you know how to pipe out of vim?
[12:59] <gonzalo_> ikonia, becouse i want to compile a cisco vpn client, and it doesn't work with kernel > 2.6.22
[12:59] <ikonia> gonzalo_: ubuntu packages it's kernels against the versions of the products it uses, why do you want to change that to an unsupported version
[12:59] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  could try getting to X in one of the failsafe modes, and running the  jockey-gtk
[12:59] <dr_willis>   command..  or figure out what nvidia package you need and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'  or whatever oneis appropoate for your video card
[12:59] <ikonia> gonzalo_: areyou %100 it won't work, or it just doesn't currently work
[12:59] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'm in console mode and having difficulty trying to figure out how to Copy Paste, even when I execute elinks from within vim