 As I mentioned in the channel yesterday, kernel.org kernels do not build in Edgy, due to problems with the stack smashing protection. Against which package should the bug be filed? gcc-4.1 ?
[08:55] <zul> linux-source-2.6.17 but it might not get fixed but it would be nice to reference it
[09:09] <johanbr> Are you sure that's the right package? Since I got the kernel from kernel.org, I don't quite see what linux-source has to do with it. Does the Ubuntu kernel not compile either?
[09:11] <zul> yes it compiles with -fno-stack-prtoector turned off
[09:12] <crimsun> meaning it compiles with -fno-stack-protector, johanbr.
[09:12] <crimsun> johanbr: so filing a bug against linux-source-2.6.17 is valid, and while it may not be fixed, it'll be a reference point as zul mentioned.
[09:14] <johanbr> Okay, will do. I'm trying to compile 2.6.18-rc2 and I have this in the kernel Makefile:  "CFLAGS          += $(call cc-option, -fno-stack-protector-all,  -fno-stack-protector)", but it doesn't seem to help.
[09:16] <crimsun> erm
[09:16] <crimsun> adjust HOSTCFLAGS
[09:16] <crimsun> according to my $COLUMNS, it's line 210
[09:17] <crimsun> also CFLAGS, which is line 359
[09:18] <johanbr> Alright, I'll give that a try and see if it helps. Thanks.
[11:21] <Keybuk> that's a weird one
[11:21] <Keybuk> this kernel didn't appear in menu.lst
[11:29] <cjb> It's a bug.  Thought it was fixed in latest edgy, though.
[11:31] <Keybuk> it could have been fixed since yesterday
[11:38] <Keybuk> me
[11:38] <Keybuk> h
[11:38] <Keybuk> I cannot find a "clean" way of doing this upgrade without causing initramfs-tools to depend on udev
[12:03] <zul> hey
[12:05] <Keybuk> hihi
[12:05] <zul> hey Keybuk how is it going?
[12:07] <Keybuk> well
[12:07] <Keybuk> yourself?
[12:07] <zul> good
[12:08] <crimsun> Keybuk: Is usbfs not mounted by default in Edgy?
[12:08] <Keybuk> crimsun: no, I'm weening everyone off it
[12:08] <Keybuk> use /dev/bus/usb
[12:09] <crimsun> all right, thanks.
[12:09] <Keybuk> I enabled it for the dapper release, but disabled it again immediately after


[05:57] <ddecator> is firefox supposed to have an option to report an incompatible website? there is a bug saying it's missing, but i haven't noticed it in the help menu before
[05:58] <micahg> hmmm
[05:58] <micahg> there used to be, but idr if it was only upstream version
[05:59] <ddecator> bug 572510
[06:09] <micahg> ddecator: have an old live CD to test with?
[06:09] <ddecator> micahg: hm, let me check...
[06:10] <ddecator> micahg: karmic is the oldest i have at school. i *might* have a jaunty disk at home, but i won't be home for over a week
[06:10] <micahg> ddecator: k, karmic should work
[06:10] <micahg> or I can test in the morning
[06:11] <ddecator> micahg: alright, i'll take a look in a few minutes
[06:11] <ddecator> still trying to find an upstream report for that SVG bug..
[06:13] <ddecator> which i'm still not finding one, but so far the ones i've looked at are closed as "Words for me" if the bug is fixed in trunk
[06:14] <ddecator> s/Words/Works
[06:17] <ddecator> anyway, i'll go test the first bug with my live cd. bbiab
[06:37] <ddecator> micahg: didn't see it on karmic. checked windows while i was at it, and it just had "Report broken webpage" or something like that, which i'm guessing is what the report means...i also tested the SVG bug on karmic and windows and it definitely happens in <ff3.7
[06:38] <micahg> ddecator: k, I'll have to check in the morning if that was removed on purpose
[06:38] <ddecator> micahg: sounds good. do you think the svg problem is worth me reporting upstream?
[06:39] <micahg> ddecator: idk, I forgot they had a bug day today and it would've been the perfect time to ask
[06:39] <ddecator> micahg: upstream has bug days too? is there an irc channel it's in?
[06:40] <micahg> ddecator: different channels depending on which team upstream, but yes
[06:40] <ddecator> oh nice
[06:44] <ddecator> micahg: maybe worth asking in #firefox?
[06:46] <micahg> ddecator: sure
[06:47]  * micahg is going to bed
[06:49] <ddecator> alright, night micahg
[08:26] <BUGabundo_remote> I may be sick, but I'm unbreakable. \w/
[11:03] <BUGabundo_remote> WTF
[11:03] <BUGabundo_remote> restarted chromioum
[11:03] <BUGabundo_remote> and X restarted :(
[11:03] <DASPRiD> (in which way is chromium mozilla related? :))
[11:04] <BUGabundo_remote> DASPRiD: its chromium... fta looks after it
[11:04] <BUGabundo_remote> this hasn't been *mozilla* only # for a long long time
[11:05] <DASPRiD> ah
[11:09] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: and its gmail that's making it crash
[11:10] <BUGabundo_remote> 6.0.396.0 (46428) Ubuntu
[11:20] <BUGabundo_remote> Program terminated with signal SIGKILL, Killed.
[11:20] <BUGabundo_remote> The program no longer exists.
[11:20] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: ^^^
[13:36] <asac> fta: chromium in debian experimental now :) ... seems ftp masters didnt like to cross check all copyright stuff ;)
[13:37] <asac> congrats. great step in right direction
[14:01] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: hey-- so I made one more commit to the tree for bug #570128
[14:01] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I also tried to contact pitti a few minutes ago-- he is travelling
[14:01] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: he'll be back online in a few hours
[14:02] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: if you have to do this *now*, then just push without the apparmor stuff
[14:02] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: otherwise I'll ask him when he is available
[14:04] <BUGabundo_remote> asac instead say: BROKEN chromium in debian unstable :(
[14:11] <asac> heh
[14:11] <asac> BUGabundo_remote: why is it broken?
[14:14] <BUGabundo_remote> Program terminated with signal SIGKILL, Killed.
[14:14] <BUGabundo_remote> The program no longer exists.
[14:14] <BUGabundo_remote> (gdb)
[14:14] <BUGabundo_remote> asac ^^
[14:14] <BUGabundo_remote> even worse. when I restarted it this morning for erratic behaviour
[14:14] <BUGabundo_remote> it restarted X
[14:15] <BUGabundo_remote> we all know google has been beefing their browser to be an OS
[14:15] <BUGabundo_remote> but to crash an X server is tooooooo much :(
[14:45] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[14:55] <chrisccoulson> hi micahg, how are you?
[14:55] <micahg> good
[14:55] <micahg> unfortunately, I have to run soon, but I was thinking, what about a generic mozilla team blueprint/session at UDS
[14:56] <chrisccoulson> we could do, as long as we have some scope for it beforehand
[14:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I'd like to discuss later
[14:57] <chrisccoulson> cool, sounds good
[15:00] <micahg> bdrung: is there anything we can do to eclipse re xulrunner-1.9.1
[15:24] <bdrung> micahg: yes: figuring out why setting MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is not enough
[15:25] <micahg> bdrung: k
[15:25] <bdrung> i couldn't reproduce the issue on my systems (with xulrunner-1.9.1 installed)
[15:59] <chrisccoulson> ccheney, were you planning to backport libsoup to hardy too?
[16:05] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: around? I can't start Ch in debug mode :(
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> Program received signal SIGPIPE, Broken pipe.
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> [Switching to Thread 0x7fffec3dd910 (LWP 20933)]
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> 0x00007ffff3a4296b in write () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> finally something
[16:10] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/428361/
[16:32] <ccheney> chrisccoulson: i had that done, but maybe you should take a look to see if i did it right?
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> ccheney - i wasn't sure whether you considered making webkit work with the old libsoup or not, but i just tried to do that (and it's a lot of work)
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> so, if we're happy to backport libsoup, then that makes life easier
[16:34] <chrisccoulson> but obviously there are a lot more things to test
[16:36] <asac> chrisccoulson: imo the libsoup stuff etc done is all the right approach
[16:36] <BUGabundo_remote> rt @microft: Oh, look. Chromium 6 (svn) just came down the pipes.
[16:36] <ccheney> chrisccoulson: ok
[16:36] <asac> chrisccoulson: or did you get crashes because of that?
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> asac - no, the libsoup stuff is mostly fine, but i wasn't sure whether we wanted to backport the whole of libsoup just for epiphany / webkit
[16:38] <asac> chrisccoulson: no ... right
[16:38] <asac> chrisccoulson: what is left is renaming soname and package
[16:38] <asac> so we can ship that in parallel
[16:39] <asac> chrisccoulson: and .pc files etc.
[16:39] <chrisccoulson> ok, that makes sense
[16:39] <asac> so no update of soup, but rather ship in parallel
[16:39] <asac> unfortunately we couldnt do the same with gtk and glib because of plugins that excpet a specific soname
[16:39] <asac> which is why we are doing all the painful stuff we do atm
[18:24] <micahg> \o/ chrmoium 6
[18:29] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, which version? (add it to the paste next time)
[19:03] <BUGabundo_remote> fta:   Installed: 6.0.396.0~svn20100505r46428-0ubuntu1~ucd1~karmic
[19:03] <BUGabundo_remote> on debian :)
[19:05] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, doing what?
[19:07] <BUGabundo_remote> opening :)
[19:07] <BUGabundo_remote> start having prob this morning after the update
[19:07] <BUGabundo_remote> it was so weird I restarted it
[19:08] <BUGabundo_remote> when I started it, X restarted too
[19:08] <BUGabundo_remote> how weird, right?
[19:08] <BUGabundo_remote> then started Ch with -g
[19:08] <BUGabundo_remote> and I get that
[20:19] <fta> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/05/ie9-platform-preview-2-arrives-with-small-performance-boost.ars
[20:20] <BUGabundo> back
[20:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll have the seamonkey patch I need ready by morning
[20:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you want to chat about a possible mozilla session
[21:36] <fta> micahg, https://edge.launchpad.net/~seamonkey2/+archive/seamonkey2-pre  ??
[21:40] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, we can chat about that in a minute, i'm just going to move my laptop downstairs for the evening
[22:00] <BUGabundo_Chuck> micahg: fta: flash still not fixed in chromium ?? :(
[22:01] <fta> no idea, wfm with 5.0.396.0, but the i386 builders hate me
[22:07] <micahg> fta: not our project
[22:07] <fta> micahg, https://edge.launchpad.net/seamonkey2
[22:07] <fta> yeah
[22:07] <micahg> BUGabundo_Chuck: I don't help maintain chromium yet
[22:07] <BUGabundo_Chuck> micahg: yah but you mention flash the other day
[22:08] <micahg> BUGabundo_Chuck: I did?  idr
[22:08] <micahg> fta: I meant to talk to him about that, I don't think there should be 2 projects for Seamonkey
[22:10] <fta> BUGabundo_Chuck, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCgQDjiotG0
[22:10] <BUGabundo_Chuck> fta: no prob in youtube site, cause I have it set to html5
[22:10] <BUGabundo_Chuck> but embeded fails to use the controls
[22:10] <fta> i meant, watch it
[22:10] <BUGabundo_Chuck> aaahhh
[22:10] <BUGabundo_Chuck> I'm blond!
[22:11] <BUGabundo_Chuck> you have be specifica
[22:13] <BUGabundo_Chuck> lol
[22:13] <BUGabundo_Chuck> I read about it on one of my blogs
[22:13] <BUGabundo_Chuck> but couldn't watch it :)
[22:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ping me when you're ready
[22:20] <fta> BUGabundo_Chuck, seems there's a new UI in youtube/flash, it works for me (32bit)
[22:20] <BUGabundo_Chuck> I don't care about flash
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i've got a few minutes spare now
 fta: yes, it's nspluginwrapper again :~(
 fta: i fixed it on the beta branch
 fta: i noticed that the ubuntu one is obsolete now, i was gonna wait a few more days before asking you about it
[22:21] <fta> BUGabundo_Chuck, ^^
[22:21] <BUGabundo_Chuck> boo
[22:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, I think this general session should focus on any non-apport related stuff for the team
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> yeah, sounds good. we've already got an apport session scheduled anyway
[22:22] <chrisccoulson> have you seen the schedule btw?
[22:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: feedback from people what they'd like to see us accomplish for maverick, what we'd like to accomplish as well
[22:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: not recently, I need to sign up for my sessions tonight
[22:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do I need to ask rick if I want to schedule another session?
[22:23] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think you'd need to speak to rick or jcastro to schedule another session in
[22:23] <micahg> ah, right, he's on european time, will check with him in the morning
[22:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: is there anything you'd like to see in the blueprint
[22:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i haven't really had much time to think about what i'd like to do next cycle yet. do you have much feedback already from the community?
[22:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, I figured that's what the session is for
[22:27] <fta> micahg: 64bit flash?
[22:27] <micahg> fta: if Adobe does it :)
[22:28] <chrisccoulson> heh
[22:28] <chrisccoulson> fta - are you at UDS too?
[22:30] <micahg> fta: unfortunately, we have no control over that one, once it's out, I'll push for inclusion and backport/SRU
[22:30] <fta> chrisccoulson, nope, i don't feel like my contribution was high enough this cycle
[22:31] <chrisccoulson> fta - really? i think other people would disagree with you there ;)
[22:31] <jcastro> chrisccoulson, evmartin will be at uds btw
[22:31] <micahg> fta: apparently sabdfl mentioned that there might be a discussion of chome vs ff as default browser
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - thanks, i noticed that too
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> micahg - there is
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> one second, i'll find the spec
[22:32] <fta> chrisccoulson, for most, i'm evil, just sucking builder resources, i just get complains about broken builds all the time
[22:32] <micahg> jcastro: so, can we have a generic session for the mozilla team?
[22:33] <jcastro> sure
[22:33] <jcastro> we always have plenty of mozilla sessions, I'm surprised it's not on there already
[22:33] <fta> chrisccoulson, so basically, i feel like dropping the ball completely :(
[22:33] <micahg> jcastro: k, I'll write a basic blueprint, should I ping you after I write it tonight or will you see it?
[22:34] <chrisccoulson> fta - no need to feel like that :( who's complaining about broken builds?
[22:34] <jcastro> micahg, make sure it's named "desktop-m-$whatever" and that you set rick spencer as approver and sprint as "uds-m"
[22:34] <fta> chrisccoulson, i get ~5 emails a day
[22:35] <chrisccoulson> fta - i tend to ignore mails from people who complain (unless it's a constructive complaint, of course)
[22:35] <BUGabundoDrHouse> http://mjg59.livejournal.com/122396.html
[22:35] <fta> now, it's "when will lucid will have the new beta", and i don't know how i could make that happen. it's ready in the branch, but i'm out of ideas
[22:35] <jcastro> micahg, if by say Friday it hasn't been scheduled ping me
[22:36] <micahg> jcastro: got it, thanks
[22:36] <chrisccoulson> micahg - https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-desktop-application-selection
[22:36]  * micahg should definitely go :_)
[22:36] <chrisccoulson> subscribe at your peril - i've had a lot of bug spam from someone constantly editing that blueprint today ;)
[22:36] <jcastro> fta, doesn't it take like at least a day or so for it to show up in the PPA builds?
[22:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I have blueprints filtered :)
[22:36] <chrisccoulson> heh
[22:37] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - did you assign evmartin to that blueprint then?
[22:37] <chrisccoulson> s/assign/subscribe
[22:37] <jcastro> chrisccoulson, yes
[22:37] <jcastro> someone did
[22:37] <fta> jcastro, pff, it's disaster at the moment. i386 all broken and for #launchpad, i'm just a moaner :(
[22:37] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages
[22:38] <jcastro> fta, I'll bring it up at UDS with an lp person
[22:38] <fta> all 7h, still counting
[22:38] <fta> expected 2~3h
[22:38] <jcastro> do we still need jaunty?
[22:39] <fta> yes, i often get requests for it
[22:39] <chrisccoulson> i'm surprised anybody still uses jaunty ;)
[22:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you find out if hardy->intrepid->jaunty is still supported
[22:40] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i think mvo is going to make sure that hardy->intrepid updates are no longer offered
[22:40] <chrisccoulson> so we don't need to worry about that upgrade path
[22:40] <fta> in 4h, the bot will kick in, and with those unfinished builds, it will break all the arch all packages, meaning no translation for 64bit users, and no chromium at all for 32bit users
[22:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, good, then we can just test hardy -> lucid 3.6->3.6 upgrades
[22:41] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that should be fine
[22:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you decide where we should stage the stuff for hardy?  transition PPA?
[22:42] <micahg> security PPA?
[22:42] <fta> if it's still like that tomorrow, i will shut down the bot, there's no point losing resources
[22:42] <chrisccoulson> i think we should create a transition PPA for the bulk of the work
[22:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: we have 1 transition PPA that I've been using for the xul rdepends
[22:42] <chrisccoulson> the actual firefox update could go in -security, but i'd need to discuss with jdstrand how he'd prefer to handle that
[22:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson:  there should be enough room for firefox/Seamonkey builds
[22:43] <chrisccoulson> we'd need to also host the ported xulrunner rdepends and updated extensions too
[22:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I create/push the thunderbird-stable PPA tonight?
[22:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll clear out older stuff from the PPA that's no longer needed, we have 4GB of space, should be enough
[22:44] <chrisccoulson> we can always request more space if we need it
[22:44] <chrisccoulson> you want to create a new PPA for thunderbird stable releases (similar to firefox-stable)?
[22:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes
[22:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: unless we're pushing 3.0.x to stable releases soon
[22:45] <jcastro> fta, the -beta shows published 22 hours ago
[22:45] <fta> jcastro, in the ppa, yes, but not in lucid
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that sounds like a reasonable idea for now. i'm not sure exactly when we'll push 3.0.x to stable releases. do you know how much support is left on 2.0.0.x?
[22:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: none
[22:46] <jcastro> fta, OH.
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> ah, bugger ;)
[22:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: asac wanted us to try to backport patches
[22:46] <jcastro> fta, I thought we were just going to SRU them and also switch to -stable
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> so, we're in the same situation as ff3.0 atm then
[22:47] <jcastro> fta, when -stable is ready I mean
[22:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes, and Seamonkey as well
[22:47] <fta> jcastro, what when there's no security fix involved?
[22:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: speaking on Seamonkey, so you need me to do anything with that (PPA-wise)?
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> micahg, how feasible do you think it is to backport patches? do you think it's enough to monitor the security fixes in 3.0.x and then see what is applicable for backporting?
[22:48] <fta> jcastro, it's just an update: http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/05/beta-channel-update.html
[22:48] <jcastro> fta, I remember having this discussion
[22:48] <jcastro> with them at UDS.
[22:48] <jcastro> and I thought the plan was to just follow upstream with little to no modificationsd
[22:48] <jcastro> otherwise, what's the point of putting an old beta in the archive?
[22:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I don't know what's entailed, but 3.0.x is a total rewrite, so I don't think it's feasible
[22:49] <micahg> *almost total
[22:49] <chrisccoulson> so, really we need to get tb3.0.x in too
[22:49] <fta> jcastro, yes, i wanted that too, i filed a request through a bug (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/561510/comments/0) but asac vetoed me
[22:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: unless asac knows something I don't about how much changed (possible)
[22:49] <jcastro> how can that be? it was asac's idea!
[22:50] <BUGabundoDrHouse> ahah
[22:51] <fta> well, i'm not sure, but the fact is there. i can't update lucid.
[22:51] <jcastro> "Lets just upload; for the future we will get a standing FFe from technical-board so this confusion doesnt happen again."
[22:51] <fta> the future is now
[22:51] <fta> i need it
[22:51] <jcastro> ok so do you know if asac asked the tech board?
[22:51] <fta> no idea
[22:51] <jcastro> so let's assume no.
[22:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: another thing on the list for maverick is a seed list for mozilla team :)
[22:52] <jcastro> I take it there's no bug for the new beta for lucid?
[22:52] <fta> right
[22:53] <jcastro> ok so we need to ask the tech board for a standing FFe basically
[22:54] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that makes sense
[22:54] <fta> jcastro, if you say so :)
[22:54] <chrisccoulson> i need to also apply for main upload rights at some point
[22:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do I need wiki pages for the blueprints also, or are teh blueprints enough
[22:54] <jcastro> chrisccoulson, are you basically doing browser stuff from now on?
[22:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson: wouldn't that just be going for -core-dev?
[22:55] <chrisccoulson> jcastro, pretty much, although i'm still trying to fit in some other bits
[22:55] <jcastro> ok so you can help me with this then. :D
[22:55] <jcastro> fta, I'll send a mail to the tech board now
[22:55] <micahg> jcastro:: do I need wiki pages for the blueprints also, or are teh blueprints enough
[22:56] <fta> jcastro, excellent, thanks. feel free to re-use my initial request, and improve it
[22:56] <jcastro> I plan on it. :D
[22:57] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i think you can create the template spec on the wiki for now, but you don't need to fill it in just yet
[22:57] <chrisccoulson> (i'm not sure other people have created them just yet)
[22:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I've seen a few
[22:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: what's the point of both blueprint + wiki?
[22:58] <chrisccoulson> good question ;)
[23:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I just realized, with Seamonkey, if we upload early, we can't list the CVEs in the changelog
[23:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, we normally just specify the USN, but we won't have one for seamonkey
[23:09] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure what to do about that actually
[23:11] <micahg> jdstrand: ^^^
[23:11] <jdstrand> normally we wait unitl seamonkey is public, and list the CVEs in the changelog
[23:12] <jdstrand> alternatively, you could point to the MFSAs (but again, those aren't live until it is public)
[23:12] <micahg> jdstrand: right, but we want to upload to security PPA for testing
[23:13] <micahg> and we usually binary copy from teh security PPA
[23:13] <jdstrand> micahg: sure. upload with ~test1 in the version, then when live strip ~test1 off the version
[23:13] <jdstrand> after updating the changelog
[23:13] <jdstrand> since there is no USN, I don't think we can just bypass the changelog
[23:14] <micahg> jdstrand: k, we still have to build twice then, is that ok
[23:14] <jdstrand> people need to know what is going on
[23:14] <jdstrand> micahg: absolutely-- people need to be able to review the changes
[23:14] <micahg> jdstrand: I don't want to exclude it, just wondering if there's another option besides building twice, but I guess there's not
[23:14] <jdstrand> just ping me when read to pocket copy
[23:15] <jdstrand> micahg: not really-- unless you have all the CVE references, but then mozilla probably wouldn't want you to make them public ;)
[23:15] <jdstrand> it's different with the USN, cause we have a short cut
[23:15] <jdstrand> no USNs for universe, so not really another way
[23:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ^^^ ok by you?
[23:16] <micahg> jdstrand: thanks
[23:17] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that sounds fine
[23:20] <fta> jcastro, fyi, i've added evan to the chromium-team in lp a short while ago, so he can help as upstream. he sometimes helps on bugs, and reviews my changes, which is good
[23:22] <BUGabundo_HIMYM> "wroberts1: to bad facebook didnt buy palm, then it would be facepalm"
[23:22] <BUGabundo_HIMYM> lol
[23:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I think I'll create the thunderbird-stable PPA anyways, we'll need it when 3.1 comes out
[23:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are we going to have any time next week to work on this stuff or do people usually crash after teh sessions?
[23:28]  * micahg made a mistake with Seamonkey 2...should have built without system cairo as xul191 + cairo 1.8.10 = crash city <-- chrisccoulson
[23:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll look into it more tonight


[01:57] <daryllukas> Noob Ubuntu Developer here. Anyone worked/working on an HTML5 app for Ubuntu Touch? Need help
[01:57] <daryllukas> Noob Ubuntu Developer here. Anyone worked/working on an HTML5 app for Ubuntu Touch? Need help
[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[06:58] <mihir> dholbach: Good Morning :)
[06:59] <dholbach> hey mihir
[07:00] <mihir> dholbach: Hey...:)
[07:23] <dpm> good morning
[07:47] <xqwzts> hello
[07:51] <dpm> hi xqwzts
[10:32] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i just noticed that the current share menu in the mediaplayer-app is a fake one, with hardcoded services. It doesn't pass to share-app the necessary info about the account it should use to share. I also noticed that both gallery and mediaplayer have a copy of the sharemenu and popover. do you think it would be a good idea to factor the working sharemenu and popover out of gallery app into ubuntu-ui-extras an
[10:32] <nerochiaro> d then use it in mediaplayer ?
[10:33] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I think it’d be a good idea indeed
[10:33] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, i'll be on it then
[10:39] <oSoMoN> gusch_: would you have some time for reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-ap-tests-new-event/+merge/180847 today ?
[10:40] <gusch_> oSoMoN: ok
[10:40] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[10:40] <gusch_> nerochiaro: this is still pending from yesterday https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-atest-tap-select/+merge/180877
[10:40] <nerochiaro> gusch_: ah, right, forgot about it. let me take it on now
[10:40] <gusch_> nerochiaro: thx
[10:41] <oSoMoN> gusch_: note that there are a lot of seemingly unrelated changes in there, I initially meant to fix one failing AP test, and the fix uncovered more issues, which I fixed along the way…
[10:42] <oSoMoN> gusch_: the MR is much bigger than initially anticipated, but I needed to fix all the failing tests otherwise jenkins CI would not accept it
[10:46] <nerochiaro> gusch_: all the code seems sensible to me and jenkins likes it. did you already run these tests on the device ?
[10:46] <gusch_> nerochiaro: nope - not on the device yet
[10:47] <gusch_> nerochiaro: well - jenkins did on mako and maguro - but I didn't
[10:47] <nerochiaro> gusch_: oh, right, forgot that jenkins now runs on actual devices. or does it ?
[10:48] <gusch_> nerochiaro: yep - does for some projects (and some devices)
[10:52] <nerochiaro> gusch_: ok, then i'll just approve that one
[10:53] <gusch_> nerochiaro: ok - thx
[10:57] <om26er> bug 1214345
[10:57] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214345 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "opening <IP_ADDRESS> makes that a google search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214345
[10:58] <om26er> oSoMoN, hey ^^ :)
[10:58] <oSoMoN> om26er: I think that’s a duplicate of another bug report, let me find it
[10:59] <oSoMoN> om26er: yep, that’s a duplicate of bug #1166063
[10:59] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1166063 in webbrowser-app "[browser] Should automatically prepend "http://" to IP addresses" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1166063
[11:00] <om26er> ah
[11:33] <gusch_> oSoMoN: I approved, shall I top approve as well?
[11:33] <oSoMoN> gusch_: please do, if there are no tweaks to do
[11:34] <gusch_> oSoMoN: looks good, and it works on desktop and maguro
[11:34] <gusch_> oSoMoN: but ... I'm not able to change the top approval ...
[11:34] <oSoMoN> bleh :/
[11:35] <oSoMoN> gusch_: no worries, I top-approved myself…
[11:35] <gusch_> oSoMoN: ok
[12:52] <dpm> hi WebbyIT! Are you around?
[12:56] <WebbyIT> hi dpm :)
[13:00] <dpm> hey! :)
[13:02] <dpm> WebbyIT, thanks for taking care of all those calculator bugs in your merge proposal
[13:03] <dpm> Looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1179422/+merge/181010 , are you ok with the to-do's you've put in there, or do you think it might be worth separating them into different merge proposals?
[13:03] <WebbyIT> dpm: they are all related, fixing the main one others fixing auto :)
[13:03] <dpm> great
[13:04] <WebbyIT> dpm: I push the code so, if you want, you (and boiko and mihir) can start to test it
[13:04] <dpm> sounds good, thanks!
[13:06] <dpm> WebbyIT, are you ok for writing/updating the autopilot tests or do you need the help from someone from QA?
[13:07] <WebbyIT> dpm, I can write them, I wrote some tests in past... if I need help, I'll ping balloons ;)
[13:10] <dpm> cool, WebbyIT balloons is on holiday for some days, so if he's not around you might want to ask someone else from the QA folks. Perhaps om26er or fginther might be able to help if you've got any questions writing autopilot tests for the calculator app
[13:10] <WebbyIT> thanks for informations dpm :)
[13:11] <WebbyIT> dpm, I hope to finish all functions for tonight, so tomorrow I'll write tests and on thursday we can merge, so calc-app can be finished for the end of the week :)
[13:12] <dpm> rock on
[13:31] <nik90> mefrio: I think the memory app is broken atm
[13:31] <mefrio> nik90, what is wrong?
[13:32] <randomcpp> kalikiana, ping
[13:32] <nik90> mefrio: When I open it, it show me the tab with title "New Memory", but i cannot any input fieds
[13:32] <randomcpp> hi everybody
[13:32] <nik90> randomcpp: hi :)
[13:32] <nik90> mefrio: the toolbar shows the clear and save button, but the save button  is disabled
[13:33] <nik90> mefrio: there is no back button to go back to the main tab
[13:33] <nik90> mefrio: hence I cannot do anythign
[13:33] <mefrio> nik90, let me make some tests
[13:33] <dpm> om26er, it seems some autopilot tests that used to run for Sudoku no longer work. Do you think you give dinkometalac a hand with those?
[13:34] <nik90> mefrio: http://imgur.com/c2Md1It
[13:34] <mefrio> nik90, yeah it's a problem with the password setting key....
[13:37] <nik90> mefrio: ah, but it never asked me a password, nor did I set one
[13:38] <om26er> dpm, sure
[13:39] <mefrio> nik90, I should have fixed now...can you try to pull??
[13:39] <om26er> dinkometalac, can  you point me at the logs ?
[13:39] <om26er> (I was on a call before)
[13:39] <nik90> mefrio: 1 min
[13:39] <dinkometalac> om26er, what logs?
[13:39] <dinkometalac> console output?
[13:40] <om26er> dinkometalac, for the failing autopilot tests ?
[13:40] <om26er> dinkometalac, yes
[13:40] <dinkometalac> sure
[13:40] <dinkometalac> no problem
[13:41] <dinkometalac> the point is it cannot get toolbarbutton right
[13:41] <dinkometalac> so it clicks outside of window
[13:41] <dinkometalac> or something
[13:41] <dinkometalac> i just talked to fginther
[13:41] <dinkometalac> and he proposed a solution
[13:41] <dinkometalac> let me just check if it works
[13:42] <nik90> mefrio: it works now! going to try password setting now :)
[13:42] <mefrio> nik90, great :) it should work too. I started to work on a GridLayout for the home page as you suggested some days ago
[13:44] <nik90> mefrio: how do i restart without having to pull again? Meaning which db files do I delete?
[13:44] <nik90> mefrio: it seems I entered the wrong password
[13:44] <nik90> mefrio: I need to test this password thing again to confirm if there is an issue
[13:44] <mefrio> nik90, the settings database is called "memories"
[13:45] <mefrio> delete this file and you will be able to do what you want :)
[13:45] <nik90> mefrio: nice.. will confirm if there is an issue in 1 min
[13:45] <popey> mhall119: dpm if you get a moment, could you verify this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtlocation-opensource-src/+bug/1214369  (cc:mirv)
[13:45] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214369 in qtlocation-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Examples in qtlocation5-examples don't work" [Undecided,New]
[13:46] <nik90> mefrio: It doesnt work with the password
[13:46] <nik90> mefrio: I entered "test" as my password, and when I try to login it says incorrect password
[13:47] <WebbyIT> dpm: you are right, I'll fix bug #1210082 in an other branch. Now the branch is ready and works,  you can continue calc and change sign to result. Now I'm going to write tests.
[13:47] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1210082 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app- July 2013] Change of sign operation only works from the second operand onwards" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210082
[13:47] <mefrio> nik90, it should be a problem due to the recent commit which added MD5 encryption...let me see
[13:47] <mhall119> popey: on desktop or device?
[13:49] <dpm> popey, trying now on desktop. LP tells me the bug you are referencing on the bug report does not exist
[13:50] <popey> mhall119: dpm desktop
[13:51] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtlocation-opensource-src/+bug/1214369 is public, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtlocation-opensource-src/+bug/1214368 is private
[13:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214369 in qtlocation-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Examples in qtlocation5-examples don't work" [Undecided,New]
[13:51] <ubot2`> popey: Error: launchpad bug 1214368 not found
[13:51]  * dpm installs qtbase5-examples
[13:53] <dinkometalac> om26er, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6006493/
[13:54] <om26er> dinkometalac, looking in
[13:54] <dinkometalac> om26er, it seems
[13:54] <dinkometalac> it cannot see
[13:54] <dinkometalac> toolbarbutton
[13:54] <dinkometalac> feel free to check the lp:sudoku-app
[13:55] <dinkometalac> I mean, I wouldn't mind :D
[13:55] <om26er> dinkometalac, there might be multiple "hintbutton" objects in the tree (even if you see only 1), I'll look
[13:55] <dinkometalac> om26er, don't think so
[13:56] <dinkometalac> nope
[13:56] <dinkometalac> only one objectName with that name
[13:57] <mefrio> nik90, I think this bug was caused by the commit to fix your previous issue xD maybe it's that I am not too familiar with QML....does this code set the string as "" is the funciton returns an undefined value? nullPassword
[13:58] <nik90> mefrio: here is the output i got password => 098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6
[13:58] <nik90> Saving Memories...
[13:58] <mefrio> sorry...wrong paste http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6006509/
[13:59] <nik90> mefrio: undefined is what it returns if the case is true. And "" if it false
[13:59] <nik90> depends on getString()
[14:01] <mhall119> popey: where do I get qt5location-examples?
[14:01] <mhall119> oh, nvm, qtlocation5, not qt5location
[14:02] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: is mumble server working for you ? it seems to be refusing the password
[14:02] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: works for me, I’m connected
[14:03] <dpm> popey, confirmed
[14:03] <mhall119> popey: confirmed
[14:04] <_5m0k3> I can execute my qt/c++ app from the terminal on my phone, but clicking the icon does nothing.  Tips?
[14:05] <kalikiana> randomcpp: pong
[14:05] <randomcpp> oh hi :D
[14:06] <kalikiana> kinda busy atm so I didn't respond very quick I guess :-D
[14:06] <randomcpp> xqwzts and I have still trouble with Index and Query classes in qml
[14:07] <popey> thanks dpm mhall119
[14:10] <WebbyIT> hi boiko :) See https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1179422/+merge/181010 I have only to create new test!
[14:10] <WebbyIT> hi boiko :) See https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1179422/+merge/181010 I have only to create new test!
[14:11] <boiko> WebbyIT: hey, I'm in a meeting right now, I will take that a look afterwards
[14:11] <boiko> WebbyIT: I need to check why autopilot tests are still failing even after my fix
[14:12] <kalikiana> randomcpp: maybe easiest would be if you could file a bug with a bit of a summary; even if "bug" is documentation to make things clearer, and I'll take a look when I have some time https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1db-qt/+filebug
[14:12] <WebbyIT> boiko, sure, on PC I have some problem with tests for size of windows... ping me when finish meeting
[14:13] <randomcpp> ok we'll do that way, because we really need some help :)
[14:14] <kalikiana> randomcpp: right, my gut feeling is if two people don't solve it, something must be lacking, what that is I'll find out. just a bit short on time right now
[14:19] <mefrio> nik90, can you try my last commit please?
[14:20] <nik90> mefrio: I just pulled your latest branch
[14:20] <nik90> mefrio: what should I be testing?
[14:21] <mefrio> nik90, delete you memories database file. Add a password and restart. Then let me know if it works or not :)
[14:22] <nik90> mefrio: :( nope it does not work
[14:23] <nik90> mefrio: although looking at your commit at https://github.com/Mefrio/Memories/commit/fec1f28917dfb8759cecfa944e8fb7adc8fa87f6, it doesnt have to do with password
[14:24] <nik90> you just hid the grid view
[14:24] <mefrio> nik90, damn git...let me see
[14:29] <mefrio> nik90, commit 38 should be good.
[14:29] <nik90> mefrio: already onit
[14:29] <nik90> mefrio: it works!!
[14:30] <nik90> :)
[14:30] <mefrio> nik90, yeah :) thanks!
[14:30] <nik90> mefrio: oh yeah regarding the coverflow, nice..good lucl
[14:30] <mefrio> nik90, what coverflow?
[14:31] <nik90> mefrio: I meant gridflow
[14:31] <mefrio> nik90, oh yes :)
[14:50] <mefrio> iBelieve, hey :) someone should push your Sidebar widget in Ubuntu.Components
[14:50] <iBelieve> mefrio, I'm planning on filing a bug in the toolkit to include it.
[14:51] <iBelieve> mefrio, especially since a lot of apps are starting to use it
[14:51] <iBelieve> mefrio, I'll create a bug request for it right now.
[14:53] <mefrio> iBelieve, great. should I use a lighter color for the sidebar so? https://github.com/Mefrio/Memories/issues/8
[14:53] <iBelieve> mefrio, lighter compared to what? What you're currently using, or what is in my screenshot?
[14:54] <mefrio> iBelieve, compared to the rest of the app
[14:55] <iBelieve> mefrio, I kind of like having a darker sidebar, but do whatever you think looks best. I think the important thing is making sure it looks transparent enough so you can see the Suru theme through it a little to give a nice impression to the user.
[14:57] <iBelieve> mefrio, Here's the bug if you wanted to mark it as affecting you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1214442
[14:57] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214442 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Add Sidebar component" [Undecided,New]
[14:58] <mefrio> iBelieve, sure
[15:20] <randomcpp> kalikiana, is possible for you to make Database::putDoc return the last saved id if a new Document is created?
[15:26] <kalikiana> randomcpp: hmm it is supposed to give you the revision for sync
[15:26] <kalikiana> both can be useful in different cases
[15:27] <kalikiana> randomcpp: can you give some more context how you use it?
[15:28] <randomcpp> when I create a new doc, I need to store it in a variable that automatically updates other widgets
[15:29] <randomcpp> I mean I need to pass the docId, so the last saved Document can be loaded
[15:31] <kalikiana> randomcpp: how about using the signal docLoaded or docChanged
[15:31] <kalikiana> it gives you the "docId"
[15:33] <kalikiana> in fact docChanged is the one that comes immeditately after saving
[15:57] <gatox> hi! i'm trying to create an application in qt creator using: qml extension library + tabbed touch ui... but i'm not being able to execute that in any way..... is that working?? //cc dpm
[16:00] <dpm> gatox, about to enter a call, perhaps kalikiana timp or bzoltan can help in the meantime ^^
[16:00] <gatox> dpm, ack, thanks!
[16:05] <gatox> kalikiana, timp bzoltan hi, do you know guys if: new project -> ubuntu -> qml extensions library..... is working in qt creator (with the things that the sdk add)??
[16:33] <bzoltan> gatox: the whole qml plugin development, on device build and packag deployment is under a refactoring due to the click packaging and changes in the platform... lots of open questions
[16:57] <xqwzts_> hy kalikiana: it appears the u1db indexer fails on large/nested documents - trying to narrow it down to find what exactly the problem is.
[17:08] <xqwzts_> kalikiana: actually it looks like for an index to match, all the fields in the document must be listed in the expression?
[17:17] <wellsb> Is there a reason I have to type the phablet password a million times to build and install on device?  Can't we just open one su shell
[17:18] <jasonamyers> after the initial tutorial at developer.ubuntu.com where is a good follow up resource for QML?
[17:19] <xqwzts_> jasonamyers: this is a pretty decent intro http://mhall119.com/tag/building-sdk-app-series/
[17:19] <jasonamyers> xqwzts, thank you
[17:20] <randomcpp> nik90, the list view will look like this http://i.imgur.com/9Vfclq8.png
[17:22] <xqwzts> looks nice randomcpp
[17:22] <randomcpp> xqwzts, thanks
[17:24] <nik90> randomcpp: looks cool!
[17:24] <randomcpp> xqwzts, I would like to add an outline color on the image to indicate the recipe difficulty, what do you think?
[17:24] <randomcpp> thanks nik90 :)
[17:25] <nik90> randomcpp: one minor thing, the subtitle text needs a sliightly darker color
[17:26] <randomcpp> nik90, that's ubuntu.components default, I think I'll add another workaround
[17:26] <xqwzts> randomcpp: cool idea - could be an outline on the image or possibly an icon next to the title [1 onion = easy, 3 onions = medium, 27 onions = makes you cry]
[17:26] <xqwzts> like the way they do in menus for spicy food
[17:27] <randomcpp> xqwzts, wonderful idea!
[17:27] <xqwzts> :)
[17:27] <randomcpp> maybe should I use star ?
[17:28] <nik90> xqwzts: that's a nice idea :)
[17:28] <nik90> why 27? lol
[17:28] <xqwzts> arbitrarily large number
[17:28] <nik90> hehe
[17:29] <xqwzts> randomcpp: personally i get so used to associating stars with ratings or favorites
[17:29] <xqwzts> because of the app stores/youtube etc
[17:29] <randomcpp> yeah right
[17:50] <randomcpp> nik90, xqwzts in the meantime I find a correct symbol, is the placement ok? http://i.imgur.com/FG91g0m.png
[17:53] <xqwzts> randomcpp: looks good there, you could also compare with having it directly after the title Pasta al Pesto✯ ✯
[17:54] <xqwzts> so the all the info the user needs is concentrated in 1 area
[17:54] <xqwzts> but I think you'd have to see both and compare to decide, it might just crowd it too much having it there
[17:55] <randomcpp> that's what I thought, I chose to put the stars there for 2 reasons, 1 easier implementation, 2 less clutter
[18:10] <nik90> randomcpp: can you also add an icon for veg(green icon) and non-veg(meat icon)
[18:10] <nik90> that would be ideal to quickly decide if the dish is for vegetarians or not
[18:11] <nik90> randomcpp: for dishes like pasta it is not easy to say this by looking at just the title
[18:11] <nik90> randomcpp: and one last thing, pls give the list some top margin. It seems stuck to the header
[18:12] <kalikiana> xqwzts: I'm just passing by; is your finding related to the issues randomcpp was mentioning? the index expressions and query need to match at least - I'm not sure about all fields, might be a bug you're hitting. would be awesome if you have a test case to check; and feel free to file as a bug thrn I'll give it a try when I have some time
[18:17] <xqwzts> kalikiana: yup I think this is the root of what randomcpp and I were having problems with, will open a bug report in a few.
[18:40] <_5m0k3> Question.  When your device rotates into landscape mode, the root.height and width properties stay the same (from portrait mode) instead of swapping.  Is this the expected behavior, or is it a bug that will be addressed later?
[18:45] <_5m0k3> Actually, it better be a bug, to be consistent with converging onto a desktop w/ resizable window.  The height and width should transposed on orientation change.
[18:47] <randomcpp> nik90, is it ok if I only put a symbol for veg recipes?
[18:53] <_5m0k3> nevermind, must be my implementation
[18:56] <_5m0k3> Nope I was right.  The mainView's height/width are not updated
[19:01] <_5m0k3> Easy enough to just not reference root, though
[19:06] <xqwzts> kalikiana, randomcpp: I've opened a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1db-qt/+bug/1214538
[19:06] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214538 in U1DB Qt/ QML "Not indexing documents unless all fields are in the index expression clause" [Undecided,New]
[19:07] <xqwzts> included a number of examples that I think explain it well
[19:07] <randomcpp> thanks xqwzts
[19:07] <randomcpp> :)
[19:13] <randomcpp> xqwzts, do you add new documents in your database dynamically with db.putDoc(contents[, docId]), right?
[19:39] <randomcpp> nik90, just an idea http://i.imgur.com/ai8dbvv.png
[19:39] <randomcpp> what do you think=
[19:39] <randomcpp> ?
[19:45] <iBelieve> Is there an API for showing notifications at a set time for Ubuntu Touch?
[19:46] <iBelieve> nik90, ping
[20:15] <randomcpp> :( tomato unicode symbol isn't available in Ubuntu font family
[20:15] <randomcpp> xD
[20:16] <xqwzts> │22:13:56    randomcpp | xqwzts, do you add new documents in your database dynamically with db.putDoc(contents[, docId]), right?
[20:16] <xqwzts> randomcpp: yes
[20:16] <xqwzts> I just created them with Document{create: true, default{}} for the examples
[20:16] <xqwzts> and testing quickly
[20:17] <xqwzts> but I'm creating the ones in the app with js so db.putDoc()
[20:19] <randomcpp> ok thanks for the info
[20:19] <xqwzts> np
[20:20] <randomcpp> I checked what you wrote in the bug report, I have the same issue, if I put all the contents index in the Index and in the Query some docs are returned
[20:20] <randomcpp> but in the delegate the "contents" object has only one value :/
[20:24] <randomcpp> does it happen to anyone of you that the Flickable gets stuck and this message is written in the console: Binding loop detected for property "height"
[20:29] <xqwzts> 23:20:55    randomcpp | but in the delegate the "contents" object has only one value :/
[20:30] <xqwzts> yup, I suppose that should be another bug - but I was reading the c++ code and it looks like that is by design
[20:30] <xqwzts> the query returns both the exact match and the docId
[20:30] <xqwzts> but it doesn't return the whole document
[20:31] <xqwzts> so we're supposed to be getting the list of docIds from the queries, iterating and pulling the docs
[20:31] <randomcpp> yeah
[20:31] <xqwzts> but if you just plug it into a view [like they do in the examples] it only gets query.results
[20:31] <xqwzts> which is useless in this case :/
[20:32] <randomcpp> I need to use queries to implement category filtering I need a whole document to display in the index view
[20:32] <nik90> iBelieve: pong
[20:33] <nik90> if you are still there :P
[20:33] <nik90> randomcpp: that looks cool, but what happends in the phone interface?
[20:34] <randomcpp> there's only one column
[20:34] <nik90> randomcpp: if that is for the tablet interface, I think it is a good direction in go in
[20:34] <randomcpp> as you saw in previous screenshots
[20:34] <iBelieve> nik90, since you're one of the Clock developers, I was wondering if you know if there's an API for notifications to be generated at a specific time.
[20:34] <nik90> randomcpp: that would be perfect
[20:34] <iBelieve> nik90, such as for the Alarms feature, or in my case, notifications of upcoming tasks
[20:34] <nik90> iBelieve: yup that's been worked on at the moment. Sort of like an alarm
[20:34] <randomcpp> photos are now above the directions
[20:35] <iBelieve> nik90, is it in a usable state yet?
[20:35] <nik90> iBelieve: the alarm api just landed in the sdk 2 days ago. I am planning to integrate it to the clock app. Despite the SDK API being available, the platform side has *not* been implemented yet.
[20:35] <nik90> iBelieve: meaning you can set an alarm but the platform will nto show the notification yet
[20:35] <nik90> that will land soon enough
[20:36] <nik90> iBelieve: so it is a timed notification yes but not sure if it can be used for other purposes other than alarm.
[20:36] <nik90> randomcpp: yeah that would be much better. I want to suggest it earlier, but slipped my mind
[20:37] <iBelieve> nik90, okay, thanks. Anyway, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to show notifications for upcoming events or not, since all I have is a due date, not a specific time.
[20:37] <randomcpp> ;)
[20:38] <nik90> iBelieve: true, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to provide a reminder feature for users at a specific time
[20:39] <nik90> randomcpp: I have personally not used a recipe app before, but as I continue to see the improvements made, it makes me more convinced to use it.
[20:39] <nik90> randomcpp: Although I certainly would not add my own recipes, so looking forward to that online API integration
[20:39] <nik90> that would be my sweet sport
[20:39] <nik90> spot*
[20:40] <randomcpp> as soon as I implement the c++ module :)
[20:42] <iBelieve> nik90, that's a good idea! Then users could get notifications about upcoming tasks for the day ahead of them
[20:42] <iBelieve> nik90, speaking of not having times, just dates, do you think that is a good idea, or should I allow due times, instead of just due dates?
[20:43] <randomcpp> nik90, what did you mean for "veg"? vegetarian or vegan?
[20:43] <nik90> randomcpp: vegetarian not vegan...people who do not eat meat
[20:43] <nik90> like my parents
[20:44] <nik90> iBelieve: due times...that would be nice to have..think of it as a deadline having a time like for instance report submission for the university
[20:44] <nik90> by 12:00 PM
[20:44] <nik90> or something
[20:44] <nik90> but it doesnt have to be mandatory
[20:45] <nik90> so users can choose to add it or not
[20:45] <randomcpp> but vegans  have more restrictions, for example they don't drink milk or eat foods made with milk/eggs
[20:45] <randomcpp> I may add both flags at this point :/
[20:45] <nik90> randomcpp: true, if you want sure
[20:46] <nik90> wouldnt be so bad to add that option :P
[20:46] <randomcpp> there will be two checkboxes at the end of the editing page
[20:46] <iBelieve> nik90, thanks for the input. I'll try to come up with a nice UI for adding due times. (and a better name too, "due times" sounds funny)
[20:47] <nik90> randomcpp: why not a listitem value selector showing 3 options non-veg, veg and vegan instead
[20:48] <nik90> iBelieve, randomcpp: btw to both of you, the cross icon to delete a checklist (tasks app) and delete a ingredient (saucybacon) is terrible (in the most friendly way)
[20:48] <nik90> pls fix that :)
[20:48] <randomcpp> I need a good value selector title in this case
[20:49] <iBelieve> randomcpp, "Restrictions", then instead of "non-veg", use "None"
[20:49] <randomcpp> nik90, do we need to change the background or the X?
[20:49] <randomcpp> ok perfect
[20:49] <nik90> randomcpp: the color of the X (gray) looks weird
[20:49] <randomcpp> the iBelieve
[20:49] <iBelieve> nik90, hmm... not using a cross, I'm using a garbage can
[20:49] <nik90> iBelieve: oh..let me try the latest build
[20:49] <iBelieve> nik90, oh, you mean the red color, or the color of the icon?
[20:50] <randomcpp> nik90, on orange backgrounds it's difficult to have some contrasts :/
[20:50] <iBelieve> nik90, I haven't changed it in a while. If you try the latest build, you'll need some extra dependencies now
[20:51] <iBelieve> randomcpp, you could also allow the user to add custom restrictions, like "Gluten Free" or whatever
[20:51] <nik90> randomcpp: why not change the background color? Gray on orange does not look nice
[20:51] <nik90> iBelieve: yes I just noticed
[20:51] <nik90> iBelieve: reading your readme.md
[20:53] <nik90> iBelieve: can you help me out with code-units pls
[20:53] <nik90> so I cloned it using git clone and have it downloaded on my comp
[20:53] <nik90> what do i do now?
[20:53] <randomcpp> iBelieve, but in this case valueselector supports multiple selections?
[20:54] <iBelieve> nik90, add it too your path, or link the file `code` into your path.
[20:54] <iBelieve> nik90, then run code install ubuntu-ui-extras && code use ubuntu-ui-extras
[20:54] <nik90> how do i add it to my path?
[20:55] <iBelieve> nik90, just add the folder to your $PATH variable
[20:56] <iBelieve> nik90, or you could just run it using the full path to the `code` file.
[20:57] <nik90> iBelieve: I told code to download the extras folder and then I moved it to the task-app folder
[20:57] <nik90> it works now
[20:58] <nik90> I will look up stuff on how to add it to my path
[20:58] <nik90> but anyways even you have a gray trashicon on a red background
[20:58] <nik90> not really ideal
[20:59] <iBelieve> nik90, yeah, it doesn't look the best. I don't think I can change the icon color, so either I manually change the icon color, or change the button color
[20:59] <nik90> iBelieve: why do you have a background in the first place? Why not just use the icon?
[20:59] <iBelieve> nik90, because then it doesn't look like a button.
[21:00] <iBelieve> nik90, maybe I could just get rid of the button and swipe the items to remove them... that might be cool
[21:00] <nik90> I guess yes
[21:00] <nik90> iBelieve: also for the click package, I am guessing you will have to include the extras folder in your package and not as an external dependency
[21:01] <iBelieve> nik90, right, the reason I'm not including it in the Git project is so the user always gets the most up-to-date version, but the click package will just include everything
[21:02] <_5m0k3> If somebody gets a chance to test my app on their device, please feel free.  I'd like to see screenshots, particularly on tablets.  https://plus.google.com/110587021591787005452/posts/SBTpHmXn3sn
[21:03] <nik90> _5m0k3: shouldn't tablet interface essentially be simulated by increasing the width of the app by manually resizing it?
[21:03] <nik90> btw I did test your blackjack app
[21:03] <nik90> looks really cool
[21:03] <_5m0k3> In theory, yes
[21:03] <nik90> _5m0k3: may need some design tweaks, but hoping lucas will help you there
[21:03] <_5m0k3> Great!  Thanks
[21:03] <_5m0k3> Yes, I hope somebody does.  That's not my forte
[21:04] <iBelieve> _5m0k3, don't some of your pictures show it running on a device?
[21:05] <iBelieve> _5m0k3, or have you figured out how to run it in unity8 on the desktop?
[21:05] <_5m0k3> I have it running on a phone.  I actually have an N7, but I have to get my phone back to android before I can flip that one to ubuntu
[21:05] <nik90> I got to go
[21:05] <_5m0k3> I don't want to lose my google authenticator and be locked out of my accounts!  lol
[21:05] <iBelieve> _5m0k3, oh, I was hoping you knew how to run apps in unity 8 on the desktop :)
[21:05] <nik90> see you guys
[21:05] <nik90> iBelieve: just reported a bug
[21:06] <iBelieve> nik90, bye, thanks for all the advice
[21:06] <nik90> iBelieve: np. Nice work!
[21:06] <nik90> randomcpp: nice work!
[21:06] <iBelieve> nik90, thanks for reporting the bug
[21:06] <iBelieve> nik90, I'll take a look
[21:06] <randomcpp> iBelieve, if I include ubuntu-ui-extras as a git submodule should work, right?
[21:06] <randomcpp> nik90, thanks :)
[21:07] <randomcpp> are you trying my branch? some of the last commits aren't pushed yet, which contain some good improvements
[21:07] <iBelieve> randomcpp, no idea how git submodules work. The only reason I suggest using code-units is to keep it up-to-date and out of the app. So I assume it will work fine with submodules
[21:08] <randomcpp> but I've just found a critical bug I want to fix first
[21:08] <randomcpp> ok that's  what git submodules are for, perfect :)
[21:10] <iBelieve> randomcpp, I guess I'll have to look up how git submodules work :)
[21:11] <randomcpp> they are very very very easy to manage


[07:11] <luna_> Got the latest NVIDIA driver working now with Kernel 5.10 on Ubuntu today :) and ZFS so 5.10.4 is fine
[14:39] <fling> luna_: which ubuntu version?
[19:00] <luna_> fling: Hirsute


[12:58] <shadeslayer> hi, i have a AMD Radeon HD 6400M Series graphics card and i installed the fglrx driver on Oneiric, and now i have a "AMD Unsupported hardware" watermark at the bottom left, but on natty the driver worked prefectly, any ideas how to fix this?
[15:51] <shadeslayer> i also get this while installing fglrx : update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken.
[15:51] <shadeslayer> any ideas?
[20:11] <ricotz> bjsnider, hi, did you tried to reupload the nvidia driver yet?
[20:28] <bjsnider> well
[20:28] <bjsnider> the thing is
[20:29] <bjsnider> once a source tarball has been uploaded another one by the same name can never be uploaded. so, even if i delete the packages it doesn't change that
[20:30] <shadeslayer> is there a way i can report a bug against the xserver-xorg-video-ati package from the xorg edgers ppa?
[21:06] <ricotz> bjsnider, hmm :\ , so you are waiting for the next version now ;)
[21:07] <bjsnider> that's about the size of it
[21:12] <bjsnider> i expect a stable 280 will be the one
[21:14] <ricotz> yeah probably -- 280.11 seems to feel better than 280.04
[22:45] <RAOF_> afiestas: Monday pong.
[22:47] <afiestas> RAOF_: 00:37 pong
[22:47] <afiestas> xD
[22:48] <RAOF_> Mmm.  Refreshingly morning :)
[22:48] <afiestas> I'm about to start the work on renewing the RandR support in KDE-Workspace
[22:48] <afiestas> and I remembered that we talked about sharing a library to save configuration relating edid information to it
[22:51] <RAOF_> Yeah, that's right.
[22:51] <RAOF_> I've not actually *written* that library yet, though :)
[22:51] <afiestas> but you're planning to?
[22:52] <afiestas> if so, when ? for this cycle?
[22:52] <RAOF_> It probably won't be this cycle.
[22:54] <RAOF> What sort of makeover does the KDE RandR code need?  Will it be easy enough to factor out such code later?


[07:39] <duflu> anpok: Did you check if the integer/float precision fix was required for touchpad scrolling?
[07:39] <duflu> It would be awesome if that's all we're missing
[07:40] <duflu> I didn't  :)
[07:54] <anpok> nope... we cannot just switch.. or we decided not to switch
[07:55] <anpok> so we need a separate axis.. for whell ticks and scroll motion
[07:55] <anpok> then we wont run into the problem of needing to rescale values in downstream code
[07:55] <anpok> but I found some errors in batching/resampling of relative mouse motion
[07:56] <anpok> it should have caused awkward additional acceleration in unity8-like setups
[09:14] <duflu> anpok: I thought floats could let us use one scroll value to rule them all? Given that a mouse wheel tick in Mir is 0.1f, we are free to then represent high-res touchpad scrolling as smaller values than 0.1f
[09:14] <duflu> Like 0.005f
[09:15] <duflu> Only Mir clients would need to be updated to support accumulation...
[09:15] <duflu> which is fine
[17:13] <om26er> Hi! the cursor on my thinkpad moves the pointer on screen very slowly in unity8 session, while the touchpad is quite responsive. How can I increase the pointer sensitivity for thinkpad's cursor ?
[17:36] <slvn> om26er, I have the same issue ... In "Mouse & Touchmad", the "Mouse Pointer Speed" setting controls both the mouse speed and the (red) TrackPoint
[17:38] <bschaefer> sounds like a libinput thing... anpok any ideas ^
[17:47] <slvn> though, it would be nice to  have something to set the TrackPoint speed ...
[19:26] <anpok> slvn: we are working on something to allow a per device setting
[19:26] <anpok> so that should be only a temporary limitation
[19:29] <slvn> anpok, ok, thanks for the info!
[19:41] <anpok> as in .. the client api that does that configuration will have all the bells and whistles..
[19:42] <anpok> but i currently do some other bugfixing work that seems to be more important..
[19:42] <anpok> patches welcome..


[14:57] <peer> I cant.. create an account/login to lp, and to file a bug about it requires me to login
[14:57] <peer> does it take some time to populate a new user?
[15:00] <cjwatson> peer: Is it giving you an OOPS ID?
[15:01] <cjwatson> peer: if so, ilasc is help contact today and should be able to fix that sort of thing for you given the OOPS ID
[15:01] <peer> many. OOPS-1adb15b78e11a8a89d365eb4885e28a0
[15:01] <cjwatson> ilasc: ^
[15:02] <ilasc> cool, peer: looking into it now
[15:02] <peer> np, no rush
[15:12] <ilasc> peer: that's solved now for you
[15:12] <peer> out of curiosity, what went wrong?
[15:13] <peer> oh, i can see what went wrong
[15:14] <ilasc> you ended up with 2 accounts (historical migration issue)
[15:14] <peer> yeah, i can see that, wow
[15:14] <cjwatson> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1607242 is about LP needing manual babysitting by staff to handle this
[15:14] <cjwatson> but at least it's a routine thing we can deal with quickly when it happens
[15:15] <peer> this feels like the time i broke bugcrowd with a username, hah
[15:15] <peer> thanks, folks
[15:16] <ilasc> :-) no problem, glad we could help


[09:35] <opencode_> hi al..i need help....since some days I can't push/pull/branch nothing from launchpad...the system show me this message: Enter passphrase for key '/home/opencode/.ssh/id_dsa.pub':
[09:35] <opencode_> Permission denied (publickey).
[09:35] <opencode_> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist
[09:35] <opencode_> I've changed my public key from rsa to dsa but the problem is the some
[09:36] <Daviey> Maybe i am being daft, but i just tried to create a public blueprint and it refused to accept that i had answered a required question.  I changed it to embargoed, and got an OOPS..  OOPS-51c8161b2e479d7ed62ba67c1000bd19
[09:36] <czajkowski> Daviey: oh not good
[09:37] <Daviey> czajkowski: please be a fixing.  Not yet raised a bug.. thought i might be being dumb
[09:37] <czajkowski> so orange have been working on bp
[09:37] <czajkowski> adeuring: ping you about ?
[09:46] <mgz> opencode_: you just have a problem with your ssh setup. debug by doing `ssh -vv bazaar.launchpad.net` and if you don't understand the output, pastebin it here
[09:47] <opencode_> oh..the problem was in the .ssh/config file
[09:48] <mgz> what specifically, for my list of problems-people-have-had-with-ssh?
[09:55] <opencode_> mgz, in the config file, the voice IdentityFile was "~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub"  but it must be "~/.ssh/id_dsa"
[10:58] <czajkowski> rick_h_: aloha
[10:58] <rick_h_> howdy czajkowski
[10:58] <czajkowski> rick_h_: Daviey is having issues with BP
[10:58] <czajkowski> was anything changed yesterday to them
[10:58] <czajkowski> 10:36 < Daviey> Maybe i am being daft, but i just tried to create a public blueprint and it refused to accept that i had answered a required  question.  I changed it to embargoed, and got an OOPS..  OOPS-51c8161b2e479d7ed62ba67c1000bd19
[10:58] <czajkowski> 10:36 < ubot5> https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-51c8161b2e479d7ed62ba67c1000bd19
[10:59] <rick_h_> let me check out the oops.
[10:59] <czajkowski> rick_h_: thanks
[11:01] <rick_h_> czajkowski: I'll ask abel about it. He's been working on the private blueprints stuff and the security backend
[11:03] <czajkowski> ah yes I pinged him earlier on but no reply
[11:04] <adeuring> Daviey, czajkowski: looks like a genuine bug we introduced recently.
[11:04] <czajkowski> adeuring: morning
[11:04] <adeuring> czajkowski: sorry for missing your ping
[11:05] <czajkowski> adeuring: thats ok if it was very urgert I'd have pinged more :)
[11:19] <Daviey> czajkowski, rick_h_ & adeuring: 1062207
[11:19] <Daviey> err, bug 1062207 .. thanks
[11:20] <adeuring> Daviey: thanks
[11:20] <Daviey> I might suggest that based on the part of cycle we are in now, this is a Critical bug
[11:20] <Daviey> (but i guess you knew that)
[11:22] <adeuring> yeah
[11:25] <Daviey> adeuring: is it two different issues?
[11:25] <adeuring> Why doy ou think so?
[11:26] <Daviey> adeuring: Well Information Type: Public bounces back with Required input is missing.
[11:26] <Daviey> and Embargoed, raises an OOPS.
[11:27] <adeuring> ah, now I understand. Yes, might be two issues. ANyway, did you try another info type, like "proprietary"?
[11:28] <adeuring> I see meanwhile several possible issues there...
[11:28] <Daviey> adeuring: proprietary == oops-8d3d5cbf192e0c643602efa4bf6608f8
[11:29] <adeuring> ok, same as embargoed...
[11:33] <adeuring> Daviey: as an ugly workaround: (1) click the pencil icon for information type and select embagoed or proprietary. (2) click the icon agaion and select "lublic".
[11:34] <adeuring> s/lublic/public
[11:34] <adeuring> ..the submitting the form should work
[11:34] <Daviey> adeuring: confirmed, that worked, thanks
[12:45] <mlankhorst> can I get a bump on https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ppa/+packages ?
[12:57] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: not the channel to request it , in -ops
[12:57] <mlankhorst> k
[12:58] <mpt> grarrrr
[12:58]  * mpt tries and fails to change a bug report's project to Ubuntu
[12:58] <czajkowski> mpt: please dont break things, it's friday
[13:00] <wgrant> mpt: You need to use the expandy thing
[13:00] <wgrant> The AJAX widget merely allows switching between projects, sadly.
[13:00] <mpt> Looking for the bug report about that
[13:02] <XavB> Hi all, TI OMAP trunk PPA and TI OMAP release PPA are both almost full. Is it possible to increase both please? Is it the right place to ask?
[13:03] <czajkowski> XavB: can you please file a question https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[13:04] <XavB> czajkowski: ok, I will, thx
[13:05] <czajkowski> np
[13:06] <mpt> thanks wgrant, reported bug 1062272
[13:07] <czajkowski> mpt: where would we be without you :p
[13:08] <mpt> czajkowski, I seem to recall you asking me that question on Tuesday
[13:11] <lifeless> mpt: o/
[13:11] <mpt> \o
[13:24] <ahasenack> hi, I'm getting timeouts when trying to view this bug, anything going on? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/523896
[13:24] <ahasenack> oopses:
[13:25] <ahasenack> OOPS-8a43a2ec51e6e294639cf74e8ff83155
[13:25] <ahasenack> another one: OOPS-4cbdd7d701d18d94e02c14d775a4c779
[13:27] <lifeless> not in the known bugs list
[13:27] <lifeless> ahasenack: please file a bug, I smell a regression.
[13:27] <czajkowski> wow thats a lot of duplicates.
[13:28] <ahasenack> lifeless: ok to call it "timeout in subscription lookups"?
[13:29] <lifeless> ahasenack: timeout on Bugtask:+Index in subscription lookups, please.
[13:29] <ahasenack> ok
[13:30] <lifeless> its a Time: 4273.351 ms
[13:30] <lifeless> query, hot, on production.
[13:30] <lifeless> -> something v wrong, as it only returns 1 row
[13:31] <lifeless> ahasenack: let me know the bug id, I'll paste an explain in.
[13:31] <ahasenack> lifeless: #1062291
[13:31] <lifeless> bug 1062291
[13:33] <lifeless> ahasenack: if you're lucky wgrant or another of the purplers will look tomorrow
[13:34] <ahasenack> lifeless: thanks
[13:34] <lifeless> ahasenack: for now, try repeatedly trying, it seems to have high variance so may well work if you persist
[13:37] <czajkowski> ahasenack: it's worked for me each time I've tried in the last few mins, I know that's annoying to hear so if you dont get in now try refresh
[13:37] <ahasenack> czajkowski: i got a few more oopses, and just now it worked
[13:40] <wgrant> THat's a dupe
[13:43] <wgrant> Huh
[13:43] <wgrant> This is an odd coincidence
[13:44] <wgrant> The most recent previous OOPS I'd noted for this bug is https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops/?oopsid=OOPS-3c62882fd39e38d4091213cbf0270da5
[13:44] <wgrant> User: Andreas Hasenack
[13:44] <wgrant> From June
[13:45] <wgrant> Er, February, actually
[13:45] <wgrant> So even older
[13:45] <wgrant> I wonder if you are in a pathologically large number of teams
[13:45] <wgrant> Hm, no
[14:57] <yofel_> could someone check if he can open: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+packages please?
[14:57] <yofel_> I only get timeouts: Error ID: OOPS-ad0589415d9e2c68ccc42cb348ada4c3 (query timeout?)
[15:01] <tsimpson> I too get a timeout, OOPS-5c85409062f58db7ab2c010f789a1f93
[15:02] <yofel_> it's probably something basic as even batch=1 times out
[15:07] <Guest32015> account deactivation is broken
[15:09] <czajkowski> Guest32015: can you elaborate?
[15:09] <Guest32015> it times out when you press the deactive button
[15:09] <Guest32015> every time
[15:11] <czajkowski> Guest32015: what account ?
[15:11] <Guest32015> jassmith
[15:11] <czajkowski> Guest32015: launchpad.net/~/+deactivate-account
[15:11] <czajkowski> can you just try again there ?
[15:12] <Guest32015> timeout error
[15:12] <Guest32015> oh wait
[15:12] <Guest32015> yeah timeout error
[15:12] <Guest32015> czajkowski: ^^
[15:14] <czajkowski> Guest32015: whats the oops ID please
[15:14] <Guest32015> (Error ID: OOPS-1359d968da56d7b91612d937a4df23df)
[15:14] <czajkowski> sinzui: large number of timeouts on LP everything ok ?
[15:19] <sinzui> we see that one often
[15:19] <Guest32015> should I just keep going?
[15:20] <sinzui> I have had to try as many as 55 times to merge profiles because there were a lot of disconnects that must be done before the actual merge
[15:21] <sinzui> Guest32015 you can keep trying, you can also do some of the work before trying to do the merge.
[15:21]  * sinzui looks at what can be done
[15:21] <Guest32015> Im trying to delete my account
[15:21] <Guest32015> not merge anything
[15:22] <sinzui> Guest32015 you maintain several projects and are a member of several teams
[15:22] <Guest32015> yeah
[15:23] <sinzui> You can give the projects to registry so that step is not needed
[15:23] <Guest32015> what steps?
[15:24] <sinzui> Someone has to own everything you are giving up because they are linked to things that will remain
[15:24] <Guest32015> so?
[15:24] <sinzui> If you give up the project and delete your branches, they do not need to be given away while your account is being deactivated
[15:24] <Guest32015> I have hundreds of branches...
[15:25] <Guest32015> erm 24 now
[15:25] <Guest32015> sweet
[15:25] <Guest32015> still dont want to have to do all that :/
[15:25] <Guest32015> this should be automatic
[15:25] <sinzui> I think your first remark was correct. I bet Lp is hiding the merge ones.
[15:26] <Guest32015> yeah I have 107
[15:26] <sinzui> Guest32015, yes it should, but you got a timeout, meaning that there was more work than aniticipated
[15:26] <Guest32015> can you increase the timeout?
[15:27] <sinzui> I can ask, but given that webops are away this week, I don't think it will happen today.
[15:39] <sinzui> Guest32015, I have approval to increase the time out. I am looking for an admin now
[15:40] <Guest32015> sinzui: awesome
[15:45] <sinzui> Guest32015, try again. the flag is in place
[15:45] <Guest32015> trying
[15:45] <Guest32015> timeout error
[15:45] <Guest32015> trying again to make sure nothing stale was there
[15:45] <Guest32015> yep, still timeout
[15:46] <sinzui> try again, because it should be getting more into the db cache
[15:48] <sinzui> Guest32015, I think leaving these teams will help: https://launchpad.net/~jassmith/+participation
[15:48] <Guest32015> k
[15:55] <Guest32015> sinzui: still timeouts
[15:59] <sinzui> :(
[16:04] <Guest32015> sinzui: how long is teh timeout now?
[16:05] <Guest32015> I mean I can go through and delete all my teams but that would fuck some projects over
[16:15] <sinzui> Guest32015, I may have a hack that will do what Lp is trying to do.
[16:16] <Guest32015> I've deleted as much stuff as possible
[16:23] <sinzui> Guest32015, This python script will do some of the prepwork that the deactivation is failing to complete http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1262199/
[16:26] <Guest32015> okay will try
[16:27] <XavB> czajkowski: thanks !
[16:27] <czajkowski> XavB: np
[20:06] <lifeless> wgrant: perhaps overly toasted rows?


[03:25] <darkxst> taharqa, btw bug 918252
[05:58] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Isn't libedataserverui-1.2 get dropped? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/199774763/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.evolution_3.15.91-0ubuntu1~vivid2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[07:11] <darkxst> Noskcaj, it was dropped on Jan 26, bought back on Feb 2
[07:12] <darkxst> (from configure.ac)
[07:12] <darkxst> maybe just a bad rebase pulling them back into configure.ac though (if the code is actually gone)
[07:17] <darkxst> Noskcaj, from a quick glance it logs like a new lib with the same name of the removed one
[07:18] <darkxst> s/logs/looks/
[09:19] <taharqa> darkxst: thanks for the last bug
[09:20] <darkxst> taharqa, if you want to backport the fix, I can sponsor it for you ;)
[09:20] <darkxst> (into trusty)
[09:20] <taharqa> ^^
[09:21] <taharqa> I admit this can be a good training
[09:21] <taharqa> but it seems the bug fix will occur on 14.04.3 ?
[09:21] <darkxst> its likely a fairly easy bug to fix
[09:22] <darkxst> taharqa, that is for live images
[09:22] <taharqa> knowing that I never develop for gnome before ^^
[09:22] <taharqa> darkxst: ah ok
[09:22] <darkxst> the fix usually take a week or two to land in trusty-updates (once uploaded they need to go through sru verification stage)
[09:23] <darkxst> taharqa, but you have done development right? and the fix is there in the upstream report
[09:23] <darkxst> you just need to apply it as a quilt patch to the ubuntu packaging for trusty
[09:24] <taharqa> so the fix is in gnome upstream, the goal is apply it on ubuntu fork right ?
[09:25] <darkxst> ubuntu is not a fork, its just trusty has older gnome-shell
[09:25] <darkxst> so backport patch from upstream, to trusty gnome-shell (I think that 3.10)
[09:25] <darkxst> and then  package it, for upload
[09:28] <taharqa> I am interested to work on this , but I'll need a little help to understand repo code organisation
[09:28] <taharqa> ^^
[09:29] <darkxst> taharqa, have you ever done any debian/ubuntu packaging?
[09:30] <taharqa> darkxst: hum well ... no ..
[09:30] <taharqa> I read about it
[09:30] <taharqa> but there is always a first time ^^
[09:40] <taharqa> darkxst: do you think it will be too hard for a first time ?
[09:40] <darkxst> taharqa, perfect for first time
[09:40] <taharqa> can you mentor me on this one ?
[09:41] <taharqa> "mentor"
[09:43] <darkxst> I can help you if you get stuck etc, so can Noskcaj and a few others in here
[09:45] <taharqa> cool then, so where can I start right now ?
[09:51] <darkxst> taharqa, first step would be setup build enviroment
[09:52] <darkxst> have a look at sbuild-launchpad-chroot
[09:52] <darkxst> set that up, then try and build the current trusty shell package
[09:53] <darkxst> then see http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html
[09:54] <darkxst> then read up on quilt and try and add that patch to the package and build
[09:55] <taharqa> will do this this evening , 10:55 here
[09:55] <taharqa> am
[09:56] <darkxst> 9pm here
[11:23] <cyberalex4life> Hello! I need a little advice on something.
[11:28] <cyberalex4life> If I am not disturbing, my problem is as follows: I currently run on my laptop Ubuntu Gnome Trusty 14.04.2 upgraded with packages from  ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 . I usually remove gnome-online-accounts evolution and empathy from my system. The very little problem I have now is that, when launching gnome-control-center from terminal, the title is "Gnome-control-center.real". Is there a fix/workaround for this?
[12:45] <LinDol> hi all :)
[13:10] <l3on> here, 15.04 + gnome3-staging - cannot run gdm
[13:10] <l3on> I updated yesterday to systemd .. everything is fine if I exec lightdm
[13:11] <dz0ny> l3on: works for me, but had to install wayland
[13:12] <dz0ny> as is it forces to wayland for gdm even if you don't have it installed
[18:48] <l3on> dz0ny, odd.. I have xwayland installed
[20:47] <Noskcaj> darkxst, some random changes to ppa-versions from unit193: http://paste.openstack.org/show/9oiszkh46m7F0wO45stX/
[20:48] <Noskcaj> Do we want any of them?
[21:33] <darkxst> Noskcaj, the xfce changes are up to you guys
[21:36] <darkxst> ubuntu links and time changes seem fine
[21:38] <darkxst> I'd probably stick with the new debian tracker though


[00:10] <MeXTuX> I'm using command line svn client and everytime I enter a command this warning appears ---> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-lm7o0e/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[00:33] <Unit193> MeXTuX: Answer in Bug #932177
[00:37] <MeXTuX> i will check it :D thank you
[00:43] <Unit193> Sure, annoyed me enough, so I fixed it and commented because someone made me. :(
[00:43] <Unit193> ;)
[03:22] <asterismo> hey people
[03:22] <asterismo> i need to customize a Xubuntu 12.04 live CD but i do not know how to edit default panel layout
[03:22] <asterismo> does anybody knows how to edit this?
[03:23] <asterismo> or where this setting is stored in the squashfs ?
[04:44] <Moakki> hello, I would like some help on xubuntu 12.04
[04:44] <Moakki> I looked around to change my sound theme to maybe make my own and add it but I don't know how to do this
[04:45] <Moakki> Now I know my system sound volume is activated but it didn't change a thing
[04:50] <Moakki> can anyone help?
[07:19] <Guest11504> how do i stop the firefox download window from blinking when a file being downloaded is complete?
[07:43] <Marzata> Guest11504: http://superuser.com/questions/63762/is-there-way-to-disable-download-bar-blinking-in-firefox
[07:46] <Guest11504> marzata: thanks
[10:23] <roshambles> Heya, does compiz work on xubuntu? Because I got it and I'm trying to enable zoom but no matter what key combination I use it won't work
[10:24] <roshambles> at first i thought my button between ctrl and alt wasn't configured to work but I found out it did, forgot the command though. Was it xev? Either way, if anyone has got compiz working with xu I'd like to hear from you
[13:02] <JohnDDD> hello people, i have screwed my fstab. I can boot in recovery mode, but it is read only. How can I correct my fstab in writeable mode?
[13:03] <hobgoblin> do you have the backup in the same place?
[13:03] <hobgoblin> or do you have no backup
[13:03] <JohnDDD> no, I don't, but i rememer what I have changed
[13:03] <JohnDDD> i have tried to add optimisations for ssd and, did exactly as told, but it does not work
[13:04] <hobgoblin> k - use one of the other things in the recovery menu - like grub or something - it'll mount the drive read/write then enter then root terminal
[13:04] <hobgoblin> then you can nano /etc/fstab
[13:05] <hobgoblin> no idea why they made it readonly
[13:05] <crond> JohnDDD, mount -n -o remount,rw /
[13:05] <JohnDDD> will try, thank you very much both of you
[13:05] <hobgoblin> crond: thanks - knew there was a way, just never remember it
[13:05] <hobgoblin> still think it's a stupid idea :)
[13:08] <JohnDDD> mount -n -o remount,rw / gives me not mounted or bad option
[13:11] <JohnDDD> the grub option does not work too
[13:11] <JohnDDD> i have added extra options for mounting / and one of them is bad
[13:12] <JohnDDD> can i mount fstab manually?
[13:12] <hobgoblin> JohnDDD: do it the long way - boot the livecd/usb - mount the drive and then edit the file from there
[13:13] <JohnDDD> but I don't have usb key by hand now and notebook is nebook, so i cannot use cd :(
[13:14] <JohnDDD> if it's best possible option, maybe i can borrow some, the one i used for installation i lost somewhere
[13:21] <hobgoblin> I don't know how to mount it if it's not working - sorry
[13:22] <JohnDDD> ok, never mind, will borrow some usb pen. thank you anyway
[13:27] <JohnDDD> hurray, found anther usb flash disk :)
[13:27] <hobgoblin> :)
[13:27] <JohnDDD> it even boots :)
[13:27] <hobgoblin> even better
[13:27] <JohnDDD> i had linux on all my flash drives as i'm looing them frequently :)
[13:28] <JohnDDD> after that boot, what shall I do?
[13:28] <JohnDDD> i guess there will be /etc/fstab from sda1 on some other place
[13:29] <hobgoblin> gksudo thunar - click on the drive so it mounts - find fstab and right click - open in leafpad and edit it - save
[13:29] <hobgoblin> or you could mount it yourself if you know and edit it from the terminal
[13:31] <JohnDDD> thanks. how i can mount that from terminal?
[13:31] <JohnDDD> with gksudo i see only flash filesystem
[13:32] <hobgoblin> I'd sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt
[13:33] <JohnDDD> yup, working like a charm :)
[13:33] <JohnDDD> now i can fix that, many thanks!
[13:33] <hobgoblin> cool
[13:33] <JohnDDD> oh no, it is readonly :(
[13:33] <JohnDDD> can i force mount in rw?
[13:34] <JohnDDD> sorry, forgo sudo ;)
[13:34] <hobgoblin> you can't sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab ?
[13:35] <GridCube> in any case gksu leafpad
[13:36] <GridCube> but he should really man mount
[13:36] <GridCube> and man fstab
[13:38] <JohnDDD> it seems that my xubuntu not recognizet nodirtime option :(
[13:39] <JohnDDD> but I removed that and it works ok now. many thanks, guys
[13:39] <JohnDDD> i'm booted back in my lovely xubuntu :)
[13:41] <JohnDDD> btw. have you by hand some *working* optimizations for ssd to fstab?
[13:41] <GridCube> !ssd
[13:42] <JohnDDD> ?
[13:42] <GridCube> no, ubottu doesnt know about ssd
[13:42] <GridCube> :)
[13:43] <JohnDDD> i think it does, because it is pretty fast even on my old acer aspire one, comparing to windows ;)
[13:43] <JohnDDD> but i wanted to get rid of unnecessary writes
[13:48] <hobgoblin> GridCube: I know gksudo leafpad - but I still had my in recovery mode head on
[13:48] <GridCube> :)
[13:48] <GridCube> i install mc and use the embebed editor
[13:48] <hobgoblin> I just use nano :p
[14:09] <JohnDDD> have fun guys and thanks again for helping me, bye
[14:34] <martinphone> how do I redirect all traffic trhough localhost:8118?
[14:35] <martinphone> and whats the shortcut to open a terminal?
[14:36] <holstein> control+alt+t ? does that work?
[14:36] <holstein> i always set it to super+t ala #! :)
[14:37] <martinphone> are these instructions outdated?
[14:37] <martinphone> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2007-June/000755.html
[14:37] <martinphone> gksu /etc/environment doesnt opne anything
[14:37] <holstein> gksudo is what i would use
[14:38] <holstein> gksudo nano /path/to/file
[14:38] <holstein> gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[14:38] <holstein> sudo nano will work fine actually
[14:38] <martinphone> nothing, instructions must be outdated
[14:39] <holstein> martinphone: if the file isnt there, it'll try and make an empty one
[14:39] <martinphone> sudo nano opened a file with just one line
[14:39] <holstein> yup.. thats it then
[14:39] <GridCube> mmhm
[14:40] <GridCube> martinphone, gksu leafpad /etc/enviroment
[14:40] <GridCube> should do the same
[14:40] <martinphone> can anyone please confimr that https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2007-June/000755.html is not outdated?
[14:40] <GridCube> xubuntu never used gedit
[14:40] <holstein> yeah.. but nano will work fine
[14:41] <holstein> martinphone: you can confirm.. add the line, test... know how to revert
[14:41] <GridCube> yep thats pretty much about right
[14:44] <martinphone> what am I doing wrong? I tried both <IP_ADDRESS>:8118 and localhost:8118 and other apps are not proxied
[14:45] <GridCube> martinphone, edit also /etc/bash.bashrc
[14:47] <GridCube> martinphone, add http_proxy=proxy:port to the end of that file
[14:47] <martinphone> thanks GridCube , I was already googling...
[14:47] <GridCube> save are sudo apt-get update  to test it
[14:49] <martinphone> GridCube, update works, but chromium is still out of proxy
[14:50] <GridCube> mmhhm
[14:50] <GridCube> martinphone, launch chromium like this:
[14:50] <martinphone> what if I follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=d5efb7bc812cbc987bf05227c42f06fb&p=8508643&postcount=7
[14:51] <GridCube> http_proxy=proxy:port chromium
[14:52] <martinphone> chromium: command not found
[14:53] <GridCube> http_proxy=proxy:port chromium-browser
[14:53] <GridCube> martinphone, :/
[14:53] <GridCube> in any case that link says the same that you just did
[14:54] <martinphone> [14726:14763:16406384501:ERROR:nss_ocsp.cc(588)] No URLRequestContext for OCSP handler.
[14:54] <martinphone> and no, still out of proxy
[14:58] <GridCube> martinphone, try this, change it accordingly /usr/bin/env http_proxy="http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8118" no_proxy="localhost,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>/24" /usr/bin/chromium
[15:00] <GridCube> ooooooooor
[15:01] <martinphone> GridCube, adding  http_proxy="http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8118" no_proxy="localhost,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>/24" /usr/bin/chromium to the end of that file
[15:01] <GridCube> martinphone, use chromium-browser --proxy-pac=///path/to/proxy.pac
[15:01] <GridCube> no
[15:01] <GridCube> just launch it like that
[15:02] <martinphone> where do I find proxy.pac?
[15:02] <GridCube> you have to make it
[15:03] <martinphone> ok..
[15:04] <GridCube> martinphone, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxProxyConfig
[15:28] <martinphone> can I use ubuntu system service (synaptic) with xubuntu?
[15:36] <baizon> martinphone: yes
[15:37] <martinphone> baizon, please instruct the noob, I dont see any GUI, command line only?
[15:38] <baizon> martinphone: http://linux.about.com/od/xubuntu_doc/a/xubudg13t02.htm
[15:41] <martinphone> baizon, I know what synaptic is, what I dont know is how to access ubuntu system service to edit proxy settings
[15:41] <baizon> a ok
[15:42] <baizon> martinphone: so install it
[15:42] <baizon> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-system-service
[15:45] <martinphone> ok, now what? I dont see any new icon
[15:46] <GridCube> alt-f2: ubuntu-system-service
[15:49] <martinphone> ailed to execute child process "ubuntu-system-service" (No such file or directory).
[15:49] <martinphone> f*
[15:50] <GridCube> welp
[15:50] <GridCube> martinphone, you still insist with the chromium ?
[15:51] <martinphone> GridCube, no, Im not going to change just proxy settings for a browser, I need it for all apps that use internet, and it must be an easy and fast way (college)
[15:52] <GridCube> martinphone, well, what other programs are not connecting now?
[15:53] <martinphone> that ubuntu-system-service from synaptic
[15:55] <dreamtraveler> hi i had just installed ccsm but for some reason i dont see the effects of it even though i have enabled wooby effects on windows
[15:55] <dreamtraveler> any suggestion ?
[15:57] <GridCube> dreamtraveler, kill xfwm and start compiz
[15:57] <GridCube> compiz --replace
[15:57] <GridCube> if im not mistaken
[15:58] <GridCube> martinphone, maybe you will get better help at #ubuntu-servers
[15:58] <GridCube> :/
[15:58] <GridCube> #ubuntu-server
[16:00] <martinphone> ok
[16:09] <drc> clear
[16:13] <GridCube> /clear drc
[16:13] <GridCube> :D
[16:13] <hobgoblin> I prefer opaque
[16:14] <drc> It's ok...I cleared all my weapons before I came inside.
[16:15] <nanotube> my nemesis nano the text editor strikes again.
[17:00] <lsa> Does anyone know where I can find an up to date package for rdesktop?
[17:01] <GridCube> !info rdesktop
[17:01] <GridCube> what is rdesktop for lsa?
[17:02] <lsa> rdp client
[17:02] <lsa> connecting to windows systems
[17:04] <GridCube> lsa, see what ubottu said, thats the one in the repos
[17:04] <GridCube> lsa, i've heard this is a good client: http://remmina.sourceforge.net/
[17:04] <lsa> GridCube: I wonder why I am not getting that version, that is the one I want
[17:05] <lsa> I just did a dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade
[17:05] <GridCube> lsa, are you using precise?
[17:05] <lsa> 11.04
[17:06] <GridCube> !info rdesktop 11.04
[17:07] <lsa> is there a file in /etc that says, or something?
[17:07] <lsa> not my system, ha
[17:07] <GridCube> !info rdesktop maverick
[17:08] <lsa> that what it is giving me, 1.6.0.  Also looks like it's installing an amd64 package.  Might be the explanation.
[17:08] <lsa> "Unpacking rdesktop (from .../rdesktop_1.6.0-3ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb) ...
[17:08] <GridCube> lsa, thats the one availabe on your sistem
[17:08] <GridCube> the newest version is available on precise
[17:09] <GridCube> lsa, thats the one available for maverick, as ubottu said
[17:09] <lsa> I guess I'll be reinstalling then.
[17:09] <lsa> Don't want to mess around with recompiling packages
[17:09] <lsa> Thanks for the help
[17:10] <GridCube> :)
[17:58] <asterismo> hi people
[17:58] <asterismo>  i need to customize a Xubuntu 12.04 live CD but i do not know how to edit default panel layout
[17:58] <asterismo> can anyone help me?
[17:59] <asterismo>  or where this setting is stored in the squashfs ?
[17:59] <asterismo> can settings be exported with gsettings as well as gnome 2 desktop settings?
[18:00] <GridCube> !customlivecd | asterismo
[19:40] <P-Chan> Hey Guys my Xubuntu works very bad. Is very unstable. I am on MATE desktop now and Gnome 2 and MATE are lightweight
[19:41] <P-Chan> My XFCE is bugged?
[19:41] <P-Chan> Is my XFCE bugged?
[19:41] <pleia2> if you're more specific about the problems you're having we may be able to help you
[19:42] <P-Chan> pleia2: Well I can't open two tabs or more with youtube because my XFCE slowdown
[19:43] <P-Chan> Mouse lag, XFCE stop. I solved the stop problem with zramswap enabler
[19:43] <pleia2> and this doesn't happen with other desktop environments?
[19:43] <P-Chan> pleia2: no
[19:43] <pleia2> same browser?
[19:43] <P-Chan> since XFCE 4.6 and 4.4 I have this problem
[19:43] <P-Chan> pleia2: no. In chrome, Firefox, firefox forks and chromium
[19:44] <P-Chan> If I open libreoffice too
[19:44] <pleia2> you mean xfce slows down with all browsers?
[19:44] <P-Chan> pleia2: yes + libreoffice
[19:45] <hobgoblin> what specs is the machine P-Chan ?
[19:46] <P-Chan> hobgoblin: http://filebin.ca/4NdzTKom7fi
[19:47] <pleia2> those specs are very similar to my mini9 running xubuntu 12.04, it can't really playback youtube smoothly or run libreoffice very fast, but that's just because the machine is slow
[19:48] <pleia2> if you add more ram you'll probably have better luck
[19:49] <pleia2> I mean, it works ok :) just wouldn't expect it to be super fast or anything
[19:50] <P-Chan> pleia2: But XFCE is more lightweight than gnome or MATE
[19:50] <pleia2> it's lighter than gnome3, but isn't MATE gnome2-based?
[19:51] <pleia2> the later benchmarks put gnome2 and xfce at about equal with defaults in ubuntu
[19:51] <P-Chan> pleia2: Ok guy. XFCE is heavier than Mate, Gnome 2, Mate
[19:51] <P-Chan> ok bye
[19:52] <pleia2> odd
[19:52] <drc> Well, that was...entertaining.
[19:52] <hobgoblin> that wasn't the answer they wanted then
[19:52] <drc> never is
[19:52] <pleia2> flash is pretty much a disaster on those old atom-based netbooks
[19:53] <pleia2> (as if it's not a diaster everywhere :))
[19:54] <hobgoblin> :)
[19:55] <Unit193> It's bad on everything, best you can do is either be forced to install Chrome, or try for adobe-flashplugin in the partner repo.
[20:38] <martinphone> I have a downloaded a movie, I have changes its filename, but in vlc it appears named as a website, how do I change that? demuxing?
[20:40] <drc> place movie in vlc...open playlist...right mouse click on movie...information...make changes, be sure to "save metadata".
[20:42] <martinphone> drc, I dont see any open playlist in media
[20:43] <drc> Is the playlist open?
[20:44] <drc> nevermind
[20:44] <martinphone> its not a playlist, its just one mkv file of 8gb
[20:44] <drc> ctr-h will toggle vlc in and out of minimal mode (no menu/controls).
[20:45] <drc> Toggle so that the menu and controls are showing.
[20:45] <drc> In Menu...View>Playlist
[20:46] <drc> when playlist is showing, highlight the video and go through the steps I outlined earlier.
[20:47] <martinphone> many thanks drc
[20:47] <drc> working?
[20:48] <martinphone> crap, i changed and saved metadata and closed the movie, but the web address still apeears as the title...
[20:49] <drc> do it again...sometimes it seems like vlc doen;t take the changes (but is probably all my fault)
[20:49] <drc> Also, it may be hard coded into the video.
[20:49] <martinphone> it seems is protected... redid it twice and everytime i click on the movie it reverts from what I wrote to that darn webpage address
[20:49] <drc> :(
[20:49] <martinphone> if its hard coded in the video, what do I do?
[20:50] <drc> get used to seeing the web adress
[20:50] <martinphone> lol
[20:50] <drc> i.e., I have no idea :)
[20:50] <drc> check the permission on the file
[20:50] <drc> ok, so I had one idea
[20:51] <martinphone> drc, what if I demux it?
[20:51] <martinphone> mkvmerge
[20:51] <drc> I admit to ignorance here...what is demuxing?
[20:52]  * drc is a av consumer not producer :)
[20:52] <martinphone> a tool to transforma cideo to mkv format, or to append several 20 min sections into a 2 hours movie
[20:52] <martinphone> video*
[20:52] <martinphone> synaptic or software center are your friends too
[20:52] <drc> ah...like pitivi?
[20:53] <drc> try it it might work.
[20:53] <martinphone> now im the noob who doesnt know what pitivi is
[20:53] <drc> an app to do some of that stuff.
[20:53] <drc> take several pron videos and make a longer porn video :)
[20:54] <drc> not that I've ever done that...but I've heard tell of doing that somewhere on the 'net
[20:56] <martinphone> me neither, but i liek delicious pron
[22:02] <Azelphur> just did a fresh install of XUbuntu and kept my /home, but it won't let me login. Brand new user lets me login fine. I assume something in /home is messing it up. Any ideas?
[22:52] <Ariel_Calzada> hi, i'm trying to use muy bluetooth headset with xubuntu 12.04 but it lets me connect the headset but the sound pass throught the internal speakers any idea?
[22:55] <holstein> Ariel_Calzada: i usually try pavucontrol first, assuming the device shows up in the terminal when you run aplay -l