[12:49] <Chousuke> are you in the right directory? :)
[12:49] <Chousuke> type "pwd" in console to find out
[12:50] <Inferno> im in /usr/autodesk/maya2008-x64/bin
[12:50] <Inferno> where i want to be
[12:50] <Chousuke> if you type ./maya<tab>, what happens?
 meaning to press the tab key :P
[12:51] <Inferno> it shows multiple files beginning with maya
[12:51] <Chousuke> then type the correct one
[12:52] <Inferno>  *** Fatal Error: Failed creating directory: /home/matt/maya
[12:52] <Inferno> haha
[12:52] <Gular1> there you go
[12:52] <Chousuke> hmm :P
[12:52] <Gular1> mkdir ~/maya
[12:53] <Gular1> gotta go - good luck.. Chousuke - you'll take it from here, right? ;)
[12:53] <Inferno> i need to cut back on the funny little cigarettes that dont smell like tobacco
[12:53] <Chousuke> Gular1: well, I suppose :P
[12:54] <Gular1> Inferno: nah, those are good for you - without them you'll be without keyboard and screens and whatnot - great way of cooling down ;)
[12:55] <Inferno> haha true
[12:55] <Inferno> why cant i create a maya folder in  /hom
[12:55] <andrewlin> Can anyone tell me how to get my sound working with linux ubuntu?
[12:56] <Gular1> Inferno: your prolly missing some rights in there... "sudo chown matt:matt -R /home/matt/"
[12:56] <Gular1> andrewlin: tried alsaconfig?
[13:00] <Inferno> alright well i got the maya folder in but now i cant make a /usr/tmp folder
[13:03] <andrewlin> gular1: no i havnt, how do i?
[13:03] <Inferno> Chousuke: got any code to do that?
[13:04] <Chousuke> Inferno: sounds like your maya isn't set up at all correctly :|
[13:04] <Chousuke> Inferno: anyway, you need to be root to make a directory in /usr
[13:04] <Chousuke> though why maya wants an /usr/tmp is beyond me.
[13:05] <Inferno> im a complete linux nUb but im trying to learn.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[13:22] <Don_jr333> Would anyone be able to explain to me how to get korean fonts to show properly in a text editor?
 Would anyone be able to explain to me how to get korean fonts to show properly in a text editor? | I think the problem could be the encoding, or the font you use
[13:27] <Kohlrabi> not all fonts have korean characters
[13:28] <Kohlrabi> maybe GNU unifont has the characters, though it uses bitmaps :S
[13:29] <Kohlrabi> Don_jr333: maybe look here, if you are unsure whether your font can display the characters
[13:30] <Kohlrabi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_fonts#List_of_Unicode_fonts
[13:30] <Kohlrabi> though I thought Deva Ju has the needed chars
[13:35] <Don_jr333> Deva ju?  I"ll deffinatly look into that
[13:35] <Don_jr333> I can get korean to whow up in everything accept java IDE's
[13:36] <Kohlrabi> err
[13:36] <Kohlrabi> Deja Vu
[13:36] <Kohlrabi> wtf
[13:36] <Don_jr333> yeah I found it
[13:37] <Don_jr333> how do I get that installed in kubuntu? lol
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> hm, for me it was preinstalled
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> I think
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> not sure, maybe check adept
[13:37] <Don_jr333> ok
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> but the problem can be twofold
[13:37] <Don_jr333> again, I can get the korean text to show up everywerhe but my java IDE
[13:37] <xst> When I go to Administrator Mode in System Settings > Monitor & Display, the Apply and Reset buttons become disabled and it is therefore not possible to apply my modifications? What to do?
[13:37] <Don_jr333> for some reason I can't find an ide that supports euckr encoding yet
[13:38] <Kohlrabi> either the editor can't display the encoding (which I highly doubt), or the font can't show the characters
[13:38] <arko> hi
[13:38] <Kohlrabi> Don_jr333: so, that means there is actually no IDE which supports korean characters?
[13:38] <Don_jr333> I know there is, I just can't find one yet
[13:38] <Don_jr333> and for that matter
[13:39] <Don_jr333> eclipse works fine on my windows box, but I cant' get it to work ehre
[13:39] <Kohlrabi> I never coded Java on Linux, sorry
[13:39] <martijn81> how do i get konversation the default for following irc:// links?
[13:40] <arko> Is there a program like Ubuntu-Synaptic for Kubuntu?
[13:40] <posingaspopular> arko: yes
[13:40] <posingaspopular> add/remove programs should do it
[13:41] <posingaspopular> martijn81: what do you mean?
[13:41] <emilsedgh> !adept | posingaspopular
[13:41] <ubotu> posingaspopular: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[13:41] <arko> posingaspopular: thanx
[13:42] <posingaspopular> ah of course emilsedgh. silly me.
[13:42] <emilsedgh> np
[13:43] <martijn81> posingaspopular: in konqueror you sometimes have these links where you can open an irc server and channel in one go with.
[13:43] <martijn81> posingaspopular: in web pages
[13:43] <posingaspopular> you mean, you can join the irc chan by clicking #kubuntu
[13:44] <posingaspopular> or w/e the chan name
[13:45] <posingaspopular> that should be in setting-> configure konversation, but if never seen that...
[13:45] <martijn81> posingaspopular: yeah, but then in konqueror@html
[13:45] <posingaspopular> settings-> configure shortcuts  maybe
[13:46] <martijn81> posingaspopular: such link for example irc://irc.mytorrent.tv/xxx-devil
[13:46] <posingaspopular> i dont know honestly
[13:47] <martijn81> thanks anyways
[13:49] <RaveBeat> Does anyone know if I can make Konqueror save the icon arrangement (like it does on the desktop)? I.e. make icons stay in the position where I drag them, even after closing konqueror.
[13:50] <martijn81> RaveBeat: no but there are profiles in place for how files can be listed
[13:50] <RaveBeat> I'm guessing that doesn't include a profile that makes them stay where I put them? :)
[13:51] <martijn81> RaveBeat: not that i  no of, unfortunately
[13:51] <RaveBeat> :(
[13:56] <Barbadillo> hi all, i think my kde is broken
[13:57] <Stevethepirate> Your bases are belong to KDE?
[13:57] <Barbadillo> for example, in kopete, when i try opening a chat with someone, the cpe goes 100% and i have to killall kopete
[13:58] <Barbadillo> Stevethepirate: what please?
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> No clue.
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> Its an IRC joke.
[14:00] <Barbadillo> even in kmail, when i try to write a new email, cpu goes 100% but after a while it opens a new mail to write
[14:01] <Barbadillo> i can't use no more kopete!!! help me!!!
[14:01] <posingaspopular> Barbadillo: try uninstalling and reinstalling
[14:01] <posingaspopular> see if that changes anything
[14:02] <Barbadillo> don't like that, i lose al my history
[14:02] <Barbadillo> all
[14:02] <posingaspopular> you can back up your files
[14:03] <Barbadillo> where are my files? in ~/.kde?
[14:03] <posingaspopular> usr/share/apps
[14:06] <arko> How do I abilitate compiz to start during boot?
[14:06] <Tm_T> !autostart
[14:06] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[14:07] <jembouge> hi there
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> !sessions
[14:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> !session
[14:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> fail.
[14:08] <jembouge> anyone can tell me why I can't get full privileges in the settings panel? I mean it doesn't even ask for the admin password when I click the admin mode button...
[14:08] <emilsedgh> jembouge: it doesnt ask password?
[14:08] <jembouge> no
[14:09] <namtaru> good day ;)
[14:09] <jembouge> I tell you the whle story :
[14:09] <jembouge> I go change something
[14:09] <jembouge> it asks for the password and everything goes fine
[14:09] <emilsedgh> jembouge: try to run this: killall kdesud and try again.this happens to me sometimes and its the fix for me
[14:09] <jembouge> then I quit
[14:09] <namtaru> i'm having trouble with my touchpad after suspend.. it doesn't work anymore.
[14:09] <jembouge> decide to come back
[14:09] <jembouge> and it doesn't ask anymore, though I need to.
[14:10] <arko> where is kcontrol-autostart?
[14:10] <emilsedgh> jembouge: run killall kdesud once please
[14:10] <jembouge> emilsedgh: ok trying
[14:10] <emilsedgh> arko: what do you mean that where is it? install it from adept manager
[14:11] <arko> emilsedgh: i have installed... but I can't find it
[14:11] <arko> just found
[14:11] <arko> thanx
[14:11] <jembouge> it says that no processes have been killed
[14:12] <jembouge> emilsedgh: it says that no processes have been killed
[14:12] <emilsedgh> arko: system settings i think
[14:12] <emilsedgh> jembouge: dunno then, sorry
[14:12] <emilsedgh> jembouge: restart X, it should be solved then
[14:12] <emilsedgh> jembouge: alt+ctrl+backspace
[14:13] <jembouge> yeah, that's what I do so far to get it to work, reboot it all... not just X
[14:13] <jembouge> thanks anyway
[14:20] <stanislav> помогите с Kubuntu еле вышел в интерне но что то не работает в браузеру
[14:22] <posingaspopular> is that russian?
[14:23] <MishaJackson> i am russia
[14:23] <MishaJackson> =)
[14:41] <freepenguin> hello
[14:47]  * genii sips
[14:54] <Eicca> in 1280x1024 the 1280 is the x right?
[14:54] <Thylio> How do i watch on dubble screen?
[14:55] <Don_jr333> is there a gui for accessing mysql that works for linux?
[14:55] <victoram> Brazil's someone?
[14:56] <genii> !info phpmyadmin | Don_jr333
[14:56] <ubotu> don_jr333: phpmyadmin: Administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.10.3-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 2711 kB, installed size 9744 kB
[14:56] <victoram> hi
[14:57] <Don_jr333> Thanks, I need to run mysql on my own box and don't know how to do it without navicat or something similar on my windows box
[14:57] <Don_jr333> not sure how to work mysql without a graphic front end...lol
[14:57] <victoram> hi
[14:57] <Don_jr333> will the phpmyadmin work for connecting locally?
[14:58] <victoram> hi
[14:58] <victoram> k
[14:58] <victoram> sometime?
[14:59] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i do this "3. install the theme in KDE Control Center -> System Administration -> kdmtheme"? cant seem to find that
[15:01] <genii> Don_jr333: Yes, it will use apache webserver and then you just point browser at localhost or <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:01] <Eicca> nikita: from finland?
[15:01] <Eicca> in 1280x1024 the 1280 is the x right?
[15:02] <nikita> Eicca: no, from belarus..
[15:02] <Don_jr333> genii okay, I have the server version of ubuntu installed with the KDE desktop on it.  So apache and mysql are already here.  I"ll do some goofin and see what happens
[15:02] <Don_jr333> thanks for the advice
[15:03] <Don_jr333> how do I set/change the root pass for mysql? lol
[15:04] <Dragnslcr> Eicca- yes, resolution is normally written as horizontal x vertical
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  : )
[15:07] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install a kdmtheme
[15:08] <posingaspopular> !theme
[15:08] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:09] <posingaspopular> !changetheme | Jay-Oh-En
[15:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:09] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: that doesnt really help me cause i know where to find them i just dont know how to install them
[15:10] <posingaspopular> !changethemes
[15:10] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[15:10] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[15:10] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: that should do it ;p
[15:11] <posingaspopular> okay i chaned my vlc theme to 'wxwidgets' and now i cant find it anywhere
[15:11] <posingaspopular> help?
[15:14] <posingaspopular> sound works, i can see it running in htop
[15:14] <posingaspopular> just not the gui
[15:14] <Thylio90> how do i cange resolution in terminal?  Can i reset X to defoult whith a command in terminal?
[15:14] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: ok now once i install kdmtheme package i type "kcontrol" then it comes up i then go to system admin...blah and i press administration mode on kdm theme manager and it goes back to the front page of kcontrol it keeps doing it
[15:15] <BluesKaj> !resolution | Thylio90
[15:15] <ubotu> Thylio90: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:16] <Thylio90> BluesKaj: If i restart x, will it still be with the same resolution? or will it go to defualt?
[15:17] <Jay-Oh-En> Thylio90: go to the link he gave you
[15:17] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: oh i dont know, i just know the command to link you
[15:17] <Jay-Oh-En> oh :[
[15:17] <Jay-Oh-En> :(
[15:17] <posingaspopular> yea sorry
[15:18] <posingaspopular> i know there are some people in #ubuntu-offtopic who change their themes all the time but they are all in bed by now
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Thylio90, the default resolution depends on your graphics card & monitor drivers. The best way to change it from scratch is to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the terminal and choose the vesa driver until you have the proper drivers installed
[15:19] <pastor> como hago para ir al kubuntu español?
[15:19] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i change sudo password
[15:19] <Jay-Oh-En> is the command pw sudo?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> !sudo
[15:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:20] <Thylio90> BluesKay: Okay, i'll do that. Fucked up  the settings when tried to watch a movie on my HDTV-
[15:20] <genii> Work, /away
[15:21] <Jay-Oh-En> Thylio90: shh no bad words
[15:21] <Jay-Oh-En> Thylio90: you'll get banned fromt he channel
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Thylio90,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:22] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: sudo passwd
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Jay-Oh-En, use the pw that you logon with
[15:22] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: thanks thats the one
[15:22] <Thylio90> ley-oh-en: sorry, thanks ill try that :)
[15:23] <posingaspopular> anyone know how I can get the vlc gui back after trying to use the wxwidgets interface? i think i turned my gui off somehow, in kubuntu gutsy. it runs fine in terms of sound and i see it in htop
[15:23] <Thylio90> BluesKay: Okay, i'll do that.
[15:23] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: that might have been the problem with kcontrol
[15:24] <Don_jr333> I searched for apache in adept and can't find anything....am I lookin for the wrong ting?
[15:24] <Downix> Don_jr333: look for httpd or apache2 I'd suggest
[15:25] <poison--> hi guys
[15:25] <poison--> is it possible to make or simulate a raid with a mobo without raid support
[15:25] <Downix> poison--: yes, but your performance will suffer
[15:26] <Inferno> I need to make a folder in /usr/ but im getting permissions issues. I figured i needed to be root so i logged out and tried to log in as root but it isnt allowed
[15:26] <poison--> Downix, how can i do it
[15:26] <Don_jr333> what's the console command to search using apt?
[15:26] <Downix> poison--: Can't tell you anymore.   Grazie!
[15:34] <emilsedgh> Inferno: what?
[15:34] <mr_dd> hello
[15:35] <emilsedgh> Inferno: why you want to create a folder in /usr/ ?
[15:35] <mr_dd> i've the following problem with idjc, i cannot add a file to the playlist, someone an idea?
[15:35] <Inferno> emilsedgh - i need to create the directory root/usr/tmp  but when i try to make a new folder it says permission denied. I need to for MAYA2008
[15:36] <emilsedgh> Inferno: 1) the root directory is named '/', so root/user is not right. 2)sudo mkdir /usr/directoryName
[15:37] <Inferno> thx
[15:42] <_Sebulba_> hi guys and gals, am looking for help on a few settings in kubuntu 7.10
[15:44] <_Sebulba_> first, how do I change the dolphin "one click opens something" back to the usual "double click opens it"?
[15:45] <_Sebulba_> i'm sure it was under profiles in konquerer but cant find the same options in dolphin
[15:47] <stdin> _Sebulba_: it's in system settings, under Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse
[15:48] <alessio> hello, what is the irc canal of Ubuntu?? (excuse me for my english)
[15:48] <kalorin> man
[15:48] <BluesKaj> alessio, #ubuntu
[15:48] <stdin> alessio: #ubuntu
[15:48] <_Sebulba_> stdin, thanks so much, got it. I looked there several times and missed that option
[15:48] <alessio> thx!!
[15:48] <emilsedgh> alessio: #ubuntu
[15:48] <kalorin> I really wish that someone would get things down to where you could actaully upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[15:48] <kalorin> this is the second machine that has blown up trying
[15:49] <emilsedgh> alessio: whats your native language? maybe ubuntu has local channel for you
[15:49] <alessio> i' m italian
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !It
[15:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:49] <kalorin> could not install this or that, the upgrade will "continue" but the package may not be in a working state
[15:49] <kalorin> lame
[15:49] <fay_elf> hi i need help on kubuntu gui bluetooth setup
[15:49] <stdin> kalorin: I did it on several machines without a problem, in fact one was dapper > edgy > feisty > gutsy  without a problem
[15:49] <alessio> grazie ubotu!!
[15:49] <emilsedgh> !it | alessio
[15:49] <ubotu> alessio: please see above
[15:49] <_Sebulba_> next, my KDE bugbear, how do I stop the bouncy mini icon appearing to the bottom right of the pointer when a program is loading?
[15:49] <kalorin> this is about the 10th or 15th that are like this error
[15:49]  * genii hands stdin a coffee
[15:50] <kalorin> could not install 'base-files'
[15:50] <kalorin> 'dpkg'
[15:50] <kalorin> you name it
[15:50] <fay_elf> or a command to bind a connection since the pairing is working but the connection keeps breaking up although good signal
[15:50] <kalorin> all kinds of stuff that will obviously result in disaster for me
[15:50]  * stdin connect the coffee to in IV drip
[15:50] <Dragnslcr> Anybody have any experience with Cowon audio players? The reviews I've read online seem to be very positive
[15:51] <kalorin> so I'm burning a cd of 7.10 before it finishes blowing up
[15:51] <kalorin> just so i can actually reinstall
[15:51] <stdin> _Sebulba_: same place "Visual feedback on activation"
[15:52] <kalorin> python
[15:52] <kalorin> adduser
[15:52] <kalorin> passwrd
[15:52] <kalorin> yeah this is going to be "not good"
[15:52] <fay_elf> could someone please help me with binding a bluetooth connection between working adapter and a cell phone anyhow?
[15:52] <_Sebulba_> stdin, do I have to log out and back in for it to kick in?
[15:53] <_Sebulba_> i disabled it, and still get the bouncy icon
[15:53] <stdin> _Sebulba_: probably, I've never bothered to disable it so I'm not sure :p
[15:54] <_Sebulba_> k, I found before it was an "animate" option in the kde settings, which seems to be all changed in kubuntu
[15:54] <_Sebulba_> thats why am here, lost where I used to be ok
[15:54] <emilsedgh> fay_elf: i dunno how to help but my bluetooth works out of the box
[15:54] <emilsedgh> fay_elf: whats your problem?
[15:55] <stdin> _Sebulba_: if that doesn't work, try Appearance & Themes > Launch Feedback  in kcontrol (they should be the same)
[15:55] <fay_elf> emilsedgd yeah mine too but the connection is breaking up without usage of the con and i do not know the device identifier for the kpp dialup
[15:56] <fay_elf> emilsedg i just bought today a prodige 1.2 adapter and it works fine too except..
[15:58] <TimS> How can I chmod a file in /var/www/ so that it has permission to edit and create new files?
[15:58] <TimS> The PHP file is Chmoded to 7777 at the moment
[15:58] <TimS> I want it so the user, mainly me, can make new txt files using it
[15:59] <_Sebulba_> stdn it is in launch feedback, i recognise the setting, the problem now is that the launch feedback button has disappeared in 7.10
[15:59] <fay_elf> damn guess i will just dig the forum
[15:59] <stdin> _Sebulba_: you can still get to in via kcontrol
[15:59] <Dragnslcr> TimS- you'd have to set the permissions on the directory you want to create files in so that the user running the script has write access
[16:00] <TimS> Alright, would that be 7777?
[16:00] <TimS> Yes it would be =]
[16:00] <TimS> Brilliant, thanks
[16:01] <Csigaa> hi
[16:01] <BluesKaj> !hi | Csigaa
[16:01] <ubotu> Csigaa: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:01] <_Sebulba_> stdin, thanks so much, I switched my busy cursor off, and killed that fu#kin bouncy icon
[16:02] <_Sebulba_> will be remembering that one for future
[16:02] <_Sebulba_> its a pet hate I have with kde
[16:04] <Csigaa> how do you think, it is wort upgrading from feisty to gusty?
[16:04] <Csigaa> I have heard of several problems with the kernel and the overall system stability
[16:05] <Csigaa> the latter could be mainly compiz-related which is by default PURGE to me :p
[16:05] <Csigaa> but what about the !compiz bugs?
[16:06] <stdin> kubuntu doesn't come with compiz by default
[16:06] <Csigaa> *huhh* :)
[16:06] <genii> Regular ubuntu does, kubuntu doesn't
[16:07] <Csigaa> and the SLUB/SLAB issue with the kernel modules?
[16:07] <Csigaa> (bt878 100PU/freezing, etc)
[16:07] <Csigaa> *100% CPU
[16:09] <sebuntu> Hey, I'm new to Linux and have been trying to read a brand new floppy disk with no luck. How do I format it and use it? (I'm running Dapper)
[16:10] <Csigaa> sebuntu: man fdformat;man mkdosfs
[16:10] <poison--> Downix, seems G4U will do the job for now
[16:10] <poison--> :D
[16:10] <poison--> cloning the sustem drive will be the way
[16:11] <poison--> system*
[16:11] <webvictim> !compiz
[16:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:12] <Csigaa> ehh but I don't want compiz at all :) Are there any no-compiz-related stability issues?
[16:12] <Csigaa> some say that gusty sucks and they would like to downgrade and so...
[16:13] <Csigaa> this discouraged me from dist-upgrade
[16:13] <Downix> I run Gutsy, but use Kubuntu as I prefer KDE anyways
[16:14] <sebuntu> Thanks Csigaa ^^
[16:15] <fay_elf> can someone direct me with creating a bluetooth connection and dialup phone modem web connection?
[16:15] <Don_jr333> Good grief, I have apache running, I need to restart it, how do I do that?  looking at the apache site, the apachectl command is not found to do it that way
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Csigaa, Gutsy works fine (running 64bit kubuntu), but a clean install is always best, as you prolly know.
[16:16] <Csigaa> okay, thanks :)
[16:17] <Downix> is the SPARC ubuntu running in 64-bit or 32-bit userland?
[16:17] <Csigaa> then the new laptop will get Gusty
[16:17] <Csigaa> (with KDE ofc ;) )
[16:18] <poison--> <Csigaa, not sure if its a compiz issue, but my HD is dying
[16:18] <poison--> 250GB to the garbage
[16:18] <poison--> making a backup atm
[16:18] <poison--> :(
[16:18] <Downix> I saved a HD once I thought was dead
[16:18] <poison--> machine crashed one day messing with compiz and the hd never worked smood again
[16:19] <Downix> sounds like a filesystem issue
[16:19] <Downix> which fs do you run?
[16:19] <poison--> yes, keeps telling me theres tons of inodes damaged
[16:19] <poison--> ext3
[16:19] <Csigaa> poison--: what does SMART say?
[16:20] <Csigaa> can be easily a hw problem
[16:20] <poison--> on boot says nutin
[16:20] <poison--> everything ok
[16:20] <Downix> have you ever forced an fsck?
[16:20] <bazhang> poison--: how much to back up? is it a prohibitive amount?
[16:22] <fay_elf> banging my head against the wall..can someone explain me how to setup/retrieve device identifier for a bluetooth connected phone to use for kppp dialup modem selection???
[16:22] <fay_elf> the connection is working
[16:22] <micman> shivaji?
[16:24] <micman> sivaji?
[16:24] <sivaji> micman who are you ?
[16:25] <ksivaji> micman what
[16:25] <poison--> <bazhang, 60Gbs
[16:25] <poison--> and 140GB of drivers
[16:25] <poison--> for the machines we produce here
[16:25] <micman> open a separate dialog for me
[16:25] <bazhang> wow that is prohibitive.
[16:26] <ksivaji> #offline
[16:26] <poison--> :(
[16:26] <ksivaji> micman click this #offline
[16:26] <poison--> think im gonna backup it all to a 320GB
[16:26] <poison--> :(
[16:26] <fay_elf> or otherways spoken..to create rfcomm device binding for bluetooth, how to retrieve channel number as the forum-stated spdtool is not present?
[16:28] <fay_elf> how do i retrieve the bluetooth adapter+cell phone channel number which is in usage?
[16:29] <Don_jr333> is there a package for mysql server? or ifit's already installed how do I start it and alter the root pass?
[16:30] <fay_elf> great i just glimpsed at the obex push window and it said.. channel 9!!! =)
[16:31] <Don_jr333> okay, loading the server, found that much so far
[16:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> !find mysql
[16:31] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libdbd-mysql-perl, libmysql-java, libmysqlclient15-dev, libmysqlclient15off (and 91 others)
[16:33] <VoksD> I'm on a 100% clean (2 hours old) Kubuntu install, no changes made except I let adept run all the updates it could find.  My build environment is useless, running a simple tarball 'configure' gives me: "error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[16:33] <VoksD> What on earth went wrong?
[16:33] <VoksD> I have the feeling libc6 just didn't finish installing (adept complained about being unable to commit some changes, but didn't specify which or what).
[16:34] <Tm_T> VoksD: you haven't installed anything for compiling, install "build-essential" package?
[16:34] <VoksD> Sec, I'll try.
[16:34] <VoksD> er, yeah, there's that second problem I was wondering about again:  When I do apt-get install something
[16:35] <VoksD> it asks me to insert a CD I don't have..
[16:35] <VoksD> Can't I force it to fetch everything off the mirrors?
[16:35] <Tm_T> VoksD: remove cd from sources.list
[16:35] <Tm_T> !sources | VoksD
[16:35] <ubotu> VoksD: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[16:35] <Tm_T> !compiling
[16:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[16:35] <VoksD> ah
[16:36] <Tm_T> I'm gone, good luck :) ->
[16:37] <_Csigaa> ehh sorry. The Ubuntu IRC == freenode
[16:37] <kalorin> ack
[16:38] <VoksD> Thanks Tm_T ;)
[16:38] <kalorin> upgrade status frozen for over 45 minutes at 44%
[16:38] <kalorin> of installing upgrades
[16:38] <kalorin> so owned
[16:38] <kalorin> going to have to pop in this disk and reinstall aren't I?
[16:39] <VoksD> kalorin: Any idea what it hangs at?
[16:40] <kalorin> says it's preparing libdvbpsi4
[16:40] <VoksD> kalorin: I'm not overly experienced with Ubuntu, but if it's taking forever to download something you can probably tell by running 'tcpdump -qnn' (as root) in a terminal and see if there's any traffic going to/from the mirrors.
[16:40] <kalorin> this is after it's failed to correctly upgrade/update about 25 or more packages that are all the good stuff like dpkg, passwd, add user, files-base, the kernel, some X stuff
[16:40] <kalorin> it's all owned
[16:40] <VoksD> ah
[16:41] <kalorin> no this isn't on the download
[16:41] <kalorin> it's on the install :(
[16:41] <VoksD> Crap, sorry I can't be of help ;)
[16:41] <kalorin> salright, I figured this might happen
[16:41] <kalorin> it happened with my machine at home too, just didn't want to take the time today to format/reinstall at work
[16:41] <VoksD> Had some odd problems with updates myself earlier.  Did a reinstall just this morning, as a matter of fact.
[16:41] <kalorin> lots of stuff going on before the end of the year
[16:41] <kalorin> well I backed up /etc/
[16:42] <kalorin> and I'm going to not let it format /home
[16:42] <kalorin> so most everything should be just magically back when it finishes the install
[16:42] <Csigaa> how can be the lauch feedback and KRFB configuration accessed from "System Settings" (which is not KControl)?
[16:43] <Csigaa> I can't find them not even with the "search" bar
[16:43] <Csigaa> or that dialog intentionally does not include all settings?
[17:04] <interfear> kubuntu is the same as ubuntu except it use's kde right?
[17:05] <bazhang> yes interfear
[17:05]  * [WarMage] smacks interfear
[17:06] <interfear> lol
[17:10] <xaka> hi all! How i can configure installed fonts? I install all possible fonts from repository, but in FireFox its shows so stupid and brutally :( i can't understand why, may be my fonts is broken?
[17:10] <Csigaa> define stupid and brutal :)
[17:11] <Csigaa> (btw don't use that piece of [censored] firefox)
[17:11] <sigma> xaka: did u tell gtk apps to use kde themes?
[17:11] <xaka> sigma: yes
[17:11] <xaka> konquer display all very good, but FF not
[17:11] <sigma> csigaa: theres nothing wrong with firefox
[17:12] <stdin> xaka: firefoz uses its own font settings, Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & Colors
[17:12] <sigma> xaka: what fonts are u using in firefox? i use arial and it works flawlessly
[17:12] <xaka> sigma: and Thunderbird too display all bad if message as HTML
[17:12] <sigma> xaka: your fonts are setup wrong
[17:13] <xaka> sigma: i understand :) but it default settings
[17:13] <xaka> sigma: for example (sorry, pls) when i installed openSuse - all was very very nice
[17:14] <xaka> font settings in openSuse and kubuntu same, but displaying - not. Why
[17:14] <Csigaa> screenshot please...
[17:14] <xaka> ok, wait pls..
[17:14] <Csigaa> can be disabled/wrong/forced antialiasing for example
[17:14] <xaka> i don't use this
[17:15] <kub^> hi my sound suddenly stopped working can i restart the service ?
[17:15] <sigma> oh ya that 2
[17:15] <Csigaa> kub^: feel free ;)
[17:15] <kub^> thanks :D
[17:15] <sigma> yes does anyone have the command
[17:15] <kub^> how can i ? ^^
[17:16] <Csigaa> if artsd is not running, then ALT+F2 and type "artsd"
[17:16] <sigma> google how to restart alsa
[17:16] <uchi> i installed vmplayer but i cant seem to open it now!! does anyone know where i can find the log for that??
[17:16] <Csigaa> alsa can't be restarted...
[17:16] <Csigaa> alsa is THE DRIVER......
[17:16] <uchi> helo
[17:16] <uchi> help
[17:17] <kub^> thanks will try
[17:17] <uchi> it dsnt even report a crash
[17:17] <Csigaa> uchi: try to run it from terminal (xterm or konzole)
[17:17] <Csigaa> it writes some error msg to the output
[17:17] <uchi> k thanks bud
[17:19] <silouck> Riddell: hi
[17:20] <TimS> !americasarmy
[17:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about americasarmy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:22] <silouck> Riddell: hello?
[17:22] <xaka> Csigaa:
[17:22] <xaka> http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot1gp7.png
[17:22] <xaka> http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot2ob3.png
[17:23] <TimS> !mpc
[17:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:23] <xaka> Csigaa: in FF all fonts too large (default settings!!!), in Thunderbird all text too white
[17:24] <Csigaa> xaka: they sould be cyrillic?
[17:24] <Csigaa> well, if the size is the only problem, set it to smaller :)
[17:24] <xaka> yeap, i'm from russia
[17:25] <xaka> i can't set to smaller becaues in another site it will set very very smaller :)
[17:25] <Csigaa> ehh... in firefox should be a "minimal size" setting
[17:26] <Csigaa> in Edit/Preferences/Content panel, next to the default font size setting is an "Advanced" button
[17:26] <Csigaa> there you can set the font-related things more precisely
[17:27] <Csigaa> the minimal size also
[17:27]  * remotechief_311 is listening to Have A Nice Day by Bon Jovi on Have A Nice Day [Amarok]
[17:29] <Csigaa> xaka: you can also set a separate font in "GTK Styles and Fonts" in the Appearance settings
[17:29] <Csigaa> if the default size/type is not convenient
[17:30] <xaka> ok, i'm try it. Say me pls - why i don't see Fonts settings in xorg.conf? where is them? in all other linux distr all font setup by xorg.conf
[17:30] <Csigaa> and the "too white" problem can be solved in the same panel, Colors tab, by unchecking "Apply colors to non-KDE apps"
[17:31] <Csigaa> xorg.conf only sets the path's where the font files are, does'nt it?
[17:32] <Csigaa> I've never seen any "use Arial 16 bold for all apps" or alike settings in xorg.conf
[17:32] <xaka> i can't see this is paths :) i'm about it
[17:32] <xaka> no Fonts section
[17:33] <Csigaa> well... it is an "improvement" ;)
[17:33] <Csigaa> xorg finds it by itself...
[17:33] <Csigaa>  /usr/share/fonts, I suppose
[17:33] <mzuverink_> Is there a fix for amarok unmounting removable media everytime it shuts down?
[17:33] <xaka> "Apply colors to non-KDE apps" already checked but text "too white" :)
[17:33] <Csigaa> but this has nothing to do with the font size setting, believe me :)
[17:34] <Csigaa> ehh... then set up custom GTK colors
[17:34] <Csigaa> of course you can't do it even with GNOME... GTK is frugal.
[17:34] <xaka> arrrghhh :)
[17:35] <Csigaa> but handcrafting gtkrc can help
[17:35] <Csigaa> and I have seen recently a 3rd party "gtk color setter" or similar app
[17:35] <xaka> i'm not love handcrafting
[17:36] <Csigaa> https://launchpad.net/gnome-color-chooser
[17:36] <tatsu> hi, does anyone have a good gudie how to install compiz-fusion (ati) ?
[17:36] <Csigaa> hope doesn't require the full GNOME and mono and mozilla and MSVC++ and ... library set
[17:36] <xaka> :)))))))))
[17:43] <emilsedgh> is there any way to upgrade to gutsy with command line? adept's dist upgrade tool is not working, it just stops and 'installing upgrades' section, tha last output from terminal is 'extracting templates'...
[17:43] <Csigaa> of course :)
[17:44] <Csigaa> edit /etc/apt/sources.list (replace all "feisty" with "gutsy"), then apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:44] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: does it install the new gutsy packages like digikam and strigi or i have to do that manually?
[17:45] <Csigaa> dist-upgrade should
[17:45] <emilsedgh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:45] <Csigaa> have youn edited sources.list?
[17:45] <Csigaa> *-n
[17:45] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: yes
[17:45] <Csigaa> and apt-get update?
[17:45] <emilsedgh> yes
[17:46] <Csigaa> then you have gutsy..............
[17:46] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: yes, i know that, i even installed kernels.but adept's dist-upgrade tool tries to install things that are newly entered in gutsy, i want them...
[17:47] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: and...adept still thinks that there is a new version available :)
[17:47] <Csigaa> AFAIK that does the "normal" apt dist-upgrade
[17:47] <Csigaa> then you have done something wrong
[17:47] <Csigaa> are you sure that the sources.list is correct?
[17:47] <Csigaa> and ALL sources are for gutsy?
[17:48] <emilsedgh> yes! man i have restricted manager, kernel 2.22
[17:48] <emilsedgh> and are all for gutsy, kde 3.5.8
[17:48] <emilsedgh> all packages are upgraded
[17:48] <Csigaa> then adept sucks. :p
[17:48] <Csigaa> I am upgrading right now
[17:48] <emilsedgh> hehe
[17:49] <Csigaa> after reboot we'll see how it works in my computer :D
[17:49] <xaka> Csigaa: can you upload your sources.list pls?
[17:49] <silouck> Riddell: hello?
[17:49] <Csigaa> xaka: http://pastebin.com/m3243cd0e
[17:50] <xaka> too small :)
[17:50] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: i found it, thats do-release-upgrade command
[17:50] <Csigaa> ah f... :p
[17:51] <Csigaa> well this is not debian anyway............
[17:52] <xaka> how rebuild installed packages cache?
[17:52] <Csigaa> emilsedgh: it is an apt parameter, or a separate command?
[17:53] <Csigaa> xaka: dpkg should do it before every package install
[17:53] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: seperate command
[17:53] <SpoZen> whats the name of app that creates a bi graphical image of a harddrive?
[17:53] <Riddell> fsview?
[17:54] <hydrogen> filelight
[17:54] <hydrogen> kind of
[17:54] <Csigaa> emil: thx :)
[17:54] <hydrogen> filelight++
[17:54] <SpoZen> fsview doesnt exist in the repos but file light will do fine thx
[17:55]  * hydrogen is still waiting for someone to explain what a "Tutorials Day week" is
[17:55] <Downix> is there any utility to show what is eating up RAM?
[17:55] <Csigaa> top
[17:56] <stdin> hydrogen: what does it sound like it is?
[17:56] <hydrogen> Not sure.. I've never heard of a day week before
[17:56] <Csigaa> or the KDE thing which pops up for CRTL+ESC
[17:56] <SpoZen> htop
[17:56] <stdin> hydrogen: sounds like a typo to me ;)
[17:56] <Downix> a ha, tyvm
[17:57] <hydrogen> :)
[17:57] <Downix> a ha, got it
[17:57] <Downix> explorer.exe was eating up 2GB of RAM
[17:57] <stdin> just poke someone after thursday to remove it from the topic
[17:57] <Csigaa> Downix: lol :D
[17:57] <SpoZen> filelight doesnt show whats takin up the most space :(
[17:57] <Csigaa> SpoZen: 'du -hs' ?
[17:58] <sam64> how does xsnow work? I tried turning it on with run, but nothing happened.
[17:58] <Downix> Csigaa:  .NET app went loco
[17:58] <Downix> I killed it, but didn't think of checking for explorer
[17:58] <Csigaa> sam64: afaik it draws on the root window... yes, it is that ugly "wallpaper" what the desktop overlaps.
[17:59] <SpoZen> ah you had to search the hard drive first :p
[18:00] <sam64> Csigaa: is that a lower layer than kdesktop, or does it matter?
[18:00] <Csigaa> yes, it is the "root" layer... mostly is not visible
[18:00] <SpoZen> omg xsession-errors is takiing up 15gb!!
[18:01] <Csigaa> SpoZen: wrong filesize?
[18:01] <Csigaa> or debug libs? :D
[18:01] <hydrogen> yea
[18:01] <hydrogen> that file gets big sometimes
[18:01] <bazzieb> how do i run a check disk on a stiffy??
[18:01] <sam64> Csigaa: do I need to turn off kdesktop?
[18:01] <hydrogen> I tend to symlink it to /dev/null
[18:02] <SpoZen> so it it safe to delete it?
[18:02] <hydrogen> yes
[18:02] <Csigaa> sam64: better tell XSnow not to use the root window
[18:02] <hydrogen> my .strigi was taking up 20 gigs the other day :/
[18:03] <hydrogen> Iw asn't that happy
[18:03] <Csigaa> sam64: ...or google for "ksnow" or similar... I suppose it exists :)
[18:04] <sam64> Csigaa: that makes sence.. Ill give that a try
[18:13] <hydrogen> I've been getting WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! every time I try to install a package
[18:13] <hydrogen> wuts up with that?
[18:13] <Csigaa> you have not set up apt-key correctly
[18:13] <Csigaa> google for the error and you'll find a howto
[18:13] <Csigaa> it is ~2 commands
[18:14] <hydrogen> but
[18:14] <hydrogen> that doesn't answer why it happened
[18:15] <Csigaa> well, I hardly believe that your ISP or government or any conspiracy is alternating your packages while they're travelling over the net :)
[18:15] <hydrogen> me either
[18:43] <sigma_kubuntu> has anyone used synce with wm5 successfuly here?
[18:49] <alesan> any idea how I can compile in 32bit-mode a program while I am working on kubuntu64?
[18:49] <sigma_kubuntu> jpatrick: have u ever used synce before?
[18:49] <Downix> still, does anyone know if Kubuntu-SPARC has a 32 or 64-bit userland?
[18:49] <Csigaa> alesan: google for "cross compiling"
[18:50] <Csigaa> Downix: "file" a binary
[18:50] <Csigaa> on i386 it displays the arch
[18:50] <jpatrick> sigma_kubuntu: nop..
[18:50] <Downix> Csigaa:  it says "SPARC"
[18:50] <Minataku> There's a Kubuntu for SPARC? :o
[18:51] <Csigaa> Downix: wrong way, sorry "^^
[18:51] <Minataku> I'd imagine that if you had a SPARC machine, you were probably advanced enough for some other distro
[18:51] <Minataku> lol
[18:51] <Downix> Minataku: yup, but I happen to like Ubuntu.
[18:51] <TheFuzzball> Hello, I am running Kubuntu Gutsy relatively fresh install on an IBM Thinkpad X30, and when I close my lid and then open it there is just a black screen and I have to force a halt and start again
[18:52] <TheFuzzball> does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:52] <Csigaa> Downix: try Nexenta
[18:52] <Csigaa> Ubuntu with Solaris kernel
[18:52] <Csigaa> more optimized for SPARC
[18:52] <Downix> Csigaa:  Solaris doesn't support the hardware I have in here
[18:53] <Minataku> Downix: What kinda SPARC you have?
[18:53] <Csigaa> Solaris unsupported SPARC hw??? WTF?
[18:53] <Minataku> I've got 6 SPARC machines, myself
[18:53] <Csigaa> the Fu-Si SPARC-s are also Sun certified
[18:53] <Downix> Minataku: Ultra 10, slow but runs.
[18:53] <Minataku> Four SPARCv8, Two SPARCv9
[18:53] <Minataku> Ah
[18:53] <Downix> Csigaa:  There's a Solaris driver for a Catweasel card?  Didn't think I'd ever seen it
[18:54] <Csigaa> does not that come with Solaris?
[18:54] <Downix> Minataku: Also have a v8 machine, SS10
[18:54] <Downix> Csigaa:  no.  It's an add-on card.
[18:54] <Minataku> I've got two SPARCstation 10s (both MP), a SPARCstation 5/170, a SPARCstation LX, an Ultra 5 and an Ultra 2 (Also MP)
[18:54] <Minataku> One SPARCstation 10 has 2x 36MHz SuperSPARC
[18:54] <Downix> Minataku: I can't find an OS for my SS10
[18:54] <Dr_willis> catweasle card. :) heh.. always wanted one.. never really needed one.. :P
[18:54] <Downix> it has a twin HyperSPARC 150 setup
[18:54] <Minataku> The other has 2x 150MHz HyperSPARC
[18:54] <Minataku> Get NetBSD
[18:54] <Downix> Dr_willis: I worked for an Amiga co, needed it
[18:55] <Downix> Looked at NetBSD, never found a floppy distro for it
[18:55] <Dr_willis> Downix,  the fact you worked for an amiga company.. is scary. heh.. Did you actually get paid?
[18:55] <Minataku> A word of warning, if anything fails to run properly on that SPARCstation 10, the PROM may be too old
[18:55] <poison--> sup Dr_willis
[18:55] <Minataku> I had that issue with BOTH of mine
[18:55] <Downix> Dr_willis: http://www.morphos.net  second from the bottom of that list is me last time I checked.
[18:55] <Minataku> The one was too old to support the HyperSPARCs at all, let alone two of them
[18:55] <Minataku> The other was too old to support MP
[18:55] <Minataku> lol
[18:56] <Minataku> Luckily I was able to erase and reprogram the EPROMs at the Uni
[18:56] <Downix> Minataku: Mine's running it fine with oBSD, but oBSD doesn't support both CPU's.  I had an ancient copy of Debian on there once.
[18:56] <Minataku> I worked on homework while they erased
[18:56] <Minataku> Then programming them was fast
[18:56] <Downix> nice
[18:56] <Downix> Csigaa:  It's not the CPU I worry about there, it's my oddball add-ons
[18:56] <Minataku> One's got 2.25, the other has 2.25R
[18:56] <Minataku> lol
[18:57] <TheFuzzball> It's okay I think I solved the problem by uninstalling acpid
[18:57] <Minataku> My Ultra 2 is a beast, too
[18:57] <Minataku> 2x 300MHz UltraSPARC-II
[18:57] <Minataku> 640MB RAM
[18:57] <Downix> My Ultra 10 is slow....
[18:57] <Downix> mostly due to the HD controller
[18:57] <Minataku> U5s and U10s were cheap-ass machines
[18:57] <Downix> need to find an OF compat ATA controller
[18:57] <Minataku> The UltraSPARC-IIi that's in there is a dog, too
[18:58] <Minataku> They were (failed) attempts at entry-level SPARC machines
[18:58] <Downix> *nods*
[18:58] <Minataku> They were seriously cut back, and as a result are really lousy
[18:58] <Downix> No other CPU options for it tho is there?
[18:58] <Minataku> Nope
[18:59] <Eicca> People, I need help! :D
[18:59] <Downix> well, it's a start
[18:59] <Downix> will do for OS porting
[18:59] <Downix> I want to get AROS onto SPARC
[18:59] <Minataku> If there's a letter after the number in roman numerals, it's a cut down version of the proper chip
[18:59] <Eicca> First of all, why when I use Ctrl + X the irssi closes and says "stopped" how am I supposed to change network?
[18:59] <Minataku> That would be cool
[18:59] <Downix> IIi 440Mhz
[19:00] <Downix> Minataku: AROS is pretty sweet
[19:00] <Minataku> Yeah, that little "i" really ruins things
[19:00] <Minataku> Downix: I _LOVE_ the mascot especially
[19:00] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  you may want to go read the irssi user guides they got at the irssi homepage.
[19:00] <Downix> I figure it on 32 and 64-bit SPARC would be nice
[19:00] <Minataku> No big secret that I'm a furry
[19:00] <Minataku> XD
[19:00] <Downix> give new options to the old hardware
[19:01] <Minataku> Yeah, I could use a smaller OS for some of my SPARC machines with limited HDD space
[19:01] <Eicca> dr
[19:01] <Minataku> By virtue that SCSI HDDs are hard to find
[19:01] <Eicca> Dr_willis: you didnt read the message didnt you?
[19:01] <Eicca> Now can someone say how to turn the Ctrl + X shortcut off in the Konsole?
[19:01] <Minataku> Eicca: Last I checked, Ctrl + Z stops a program
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  to change networks with irssi you can use the /server command  - You dident mention the KONSOLE at all.
[19:02] <Minataku> And you can't turn that off without altering the source code to mask out SIGTSTP
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  you may want to use irssi in a normal xterm.
[19:02] <Minataku> Eicca: Next time it says "Stopped", type fg
[19:02] <Minataku> Then hit enter
[19:02] <Minataku> irssi will come back
[19:02] <Eicca> hmm
[19:02] <Eicca> it wont do it again
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  there are a lot of conflicting keyboard commands with irssi when used under X and different window managers.  Its designed/setup to be used with the Console.
[19:02] <Eicca> nvm and thanks for help! :D
[19:02] <Dr_willis> I found that using Irssi under 'twin' worked a little better at times.
[19:03] <Minataku> Downix: Feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic so we can chat without getting yelled at
[19:03] <Minataku> lol
[19:03] <Eicca> but I have plenty of questions more, could you help me?
[19:03] <Dr_willis> I am going to work.. If you got Irssi questions.. the irssi web site has OOOODLES of docs/faq/guides... good luck.
[19:03] <Eicca> okay
[19:03] <Eicca> ty
[19:04] <Eicca> the next question is; how can I turn the auto spell checking off in the pidgin?
[19:06] <Eicca> does anyone know?
[19:07] <posingaspopular> Eicca: tools->prefrences
[19:07] <posingaspopular> let me check
[19:08] <posingaspopular> and then tab over to 'conversations' and click the box about "highlight misspelled words"
[19:08] <Eicca> okay thanks
[19:09] <Eicca> posingaspopular: while your at it, could you tell how to turn the icons off the buddy list?
[19:09] <posingaspopular> np hl
[19:09] <posingaspopular> gl*
[19:09] <posingaspopular> hmm you mean the pictures?
[19:09] <Eicca> yea
[19:09] <Eicca> and the green dots could be smaller
[19:10] <posingaspopular> yea one moment while i gurre it out
[19:11] <posingaspopular> erm figure it out*
[19:11] <posingaspopular> tire+babysitting all around me
[19:11] <Eicca> posingaspopular: I found it
[19:12] <posingaspopular> oh did you? where?
[19:12] <posingaspopular> now i want to know
[19:12] <Eicca> posingaspopular: nope, didnt find
[19:12] <Eicca> Buddies - Show menu had something
[19:12] <Eicca> but not that one I'm searching for
[19:15] <posingaspopular> im not seeing those option Eicca. my suggestion is to search for pidgin plugins and try that route.
[19:15] <posingaspopular> im sure someone has a plugin somewhere
[19:16] <Eicca> ok
[19:16] <posingaspopular> http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/PluginPack
[19:16] <acee1235> i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and i have no sound any ideas?
[19:16] <posingaspopular> that should do it right there
[19:16] <posingaspopular> acee1235: did you check alsamixer?
[19:16] <posingaspopular> !alsamixer
[19:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:16] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[19:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:17] <smithw> Hello everyone. I just upgraded kubuntu from feisty to gutsy and can't login on graphical mode. When I try to do that, the screen just keeps the default wallpaper, a cursor and stops.
[19:17] <Csigaa> smithw: rm ~/.kde -rf
[19:17] <Csigaa> all your settings will be lost
[19:18] <Csigaa> if you are familiar with the KDE config scheme, then you can sort the important things (kopete etc) out
[19:18] <andrewlin> Can anyone help me figuring out why my sound isn't working in ubuntu?
[19:18] <smithw> Csigaa, so it's a problem of corrupt settings?
[19:18] <Csigaa> yes
[19:18] <posingaspopular> andrewlin: check alsamixer first
[19:18] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[19:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:19] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: where do i type !alsa? XD, this is only my second day of using linux.
[19:19] <smithw> Csigaa, I'm not exactly familiar, but I think I can figure out. Thank you for the insight.
[19:19] <Csigaa> youre welcome :)
[19:19] <posingaspopular> andrewlin: open up a konsole and type 'alsa' without the quotes
[19:19] <smithw> :)
[19:19] <posingaspopular> kmenu->system
[19:20] <posingaspopular> erm sorry that command is 'alsamixer'
[19:20] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: ok what do you want me to tell you about alsamixer? i see a bunch of controls.
[19:21] <posingaspopular> well looks at the levels
[19:21] <smithw> Csigaa, should "startx" start kde automatically? I just want to know how to test if I corrected it without having to reboot every time.
[19:21] <posingaspopular> and make sure that none of them are low
[19:21] <andrewlin> ubotu: I can't find Sound System in the System folder under K Menu
[19:21] <Csigaa> smithw: xinit -e startkde
[19:22] <smithw> Csigaa, thank you again!
[19:22] <acee1235> alsa is running still no sound
[19:22] <posingaspopular> move between them with the left and right arrows. and up etc
[19:22] <posingaspopular> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:23] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: i turned them all up to high
[19:23] <posingaspopular> andrewlin: alt+f2
[19:23] <posingaspopular> run 'kcontrol'
[19:23] <posingaspopular> and that should get you the soundsystem
[19:24] <posingaspopular> sorry i cant help more i have finals tomorrow
[19:24] <posingaspopular> good luck
[19:24] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: its ok, thnx for help
[19:24] <SGL> Hello. Is there a way to install Xubuntu from the command-line of a working OS?
[19:25] <posingaspopular> SGL: depends on the OS?
[19:25] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop i think
[19:25] <SGL> uhh
[19:25] <Helmholtz> Hey everyone..
[19:25] <SGL> ok
[19:25] <SGL> does that install everything all over?
[19:25] <SGL> It is xubuntu allready
[19:26] <posingaspopular> i *really* love helping people and answering linux/ubuntu questions. unfortunately my final is not about ubuntu/linux and i already paid lots of money for the classes
[19:26] <posingaspopular> bye all
[19:26] <Helmholtz> Please excuse the really noobish question.. but when you install ubuntu with a dvd, why does it require that dvd to install any packages?
[19:27] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: because that dvd contains the packages, you could download those packages from internet too
[19:27] <acee1235> tried instructions still no sound i did do one thing and that was to enable all listed repositories and updated things
[19:27] <acee1235> after that sound=dead
[19:27] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: when you install, just some programs will get installed, many other programs and addons are on the disc
[19:28] <Helmholtz> emilsedgh: Ah.. I'm using Adept package manager to install a package.. shouldn't that download the package from the net?
[19:29] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: look, you have a few software repositories, the physical repositories have more priority, you could disable them by going to Adept->Manage Repositories
[19:29] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: but why you want to downbload when you have the dvd?
[19:30] <Helmholtz> emilsedgh: Because I can find it right now, and it's a pain in the ass for me to redownload the iso :P
[19:30] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: so disable it
[19:31] <Arvid> when I try to play a song in Amarok i get "device is busy". How can I find the other app who is using my soundcard?
[19:31] <Helmholtz> emilsegh: sweet I see it.. thanks, emilsedgh!
[19:31] <Eicca> is there a way for a newbie with linux like me to create own KDE splash screen easily?
[19:32] <emilsedgh> Eicca: take a look at existing splash screens, yes they are easy to create
[19:32] <acee1235> should i just reinstall linux
[19:33] <acee1235> o get the sound back?
[19:33] <emilsedgh> acee1235: reinstall is never the solution...
[19:33] <smithw> There's a program I want to run when KDE starts. On feisty (which I believe was kde 3.5.6), I just put a symbolic link to the binary of the program on ~/.kde/Autostart. When I upgraded to gutsy, this program made KDE hang on startup. After I removed the link, kde started ok. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make it a .desktop file for it to work now, am I right?
[19:33] <Eicca> emilsedgh: is there a tool to make own splash screen or some file to edit or what? =)
[19:33] <emilsedgh> Eicca: you have to add pictures and edit a text file
[19:34] <emilsedgh> smithw: why you do not save the session?
[19:34] <acee1235> emilsedgh: then what might be?
[19:34] <sourcemaker> how can I seek large sound files in juk?
[19:34] <emilsedgh> acee1235: i dunno, but thats not reinstalling
[19:35] <emilsedgh> Eicca: /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes take a look at this place
[19:35] <emilsedgh> acee1235: whats the problem with sound?
[19:35] <smithw> emilsedgh, I really don't remember now, but a long time ago I had some major problem with kde sessions and disabled it. By "major problem" I mean a major annoyance, not a freeze or something. I wish I could remember what it was...
[19:35] <emilsedgh> smithw: saving session works nice, try it
[19:36] <Eicca> emilsedgh: allright, how do I edit them?
[19:36] <acee1235> anyone a sound expert?
[19:36] <smithw> emilsedgh, is there a way to save a session and not make KDE ask me everytime I log out if I want to save it again? (I believe that was the annoyance)
[19:36] <emilsedgh> Eicca: copy one of them to you home folder, change names and edit them and create a .tar.gz and install from systemSetings->appearance->splash screen
[19:36] <emilsedgh> smithw: it never asked me so...
[19:38] <smithw> emilsedgh, I give it a try. thank you. reboot time now...
[19:38] <Eicca> eicca@eicca-desktop:/usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes$ sudo cp /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/kubuntu/ /home/eicca/
[19:38] <Eicca> cp: omitting directory `/usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/kubuntu/'
[19:38] <Eicca> what is the command to copy that kind of file? =)
[19:38] <emilsedgh> Eicca: give it a -r switch
[19:38] <TheFuzzball> has anyone succesfully built Katapult Fast-Track on Kubuntu?
[19:39] <emilsedgh> Eicca: copy ir src dst
[19:39] <emilsedgh> TheFuzzball: i think i tried it once but it didnt compile, i think, thats was some time ago
[19:40] <TheFuzzball> emilsedgh: yeh, It's not compiling for me
[19:40] <andrewlin> If you are editing a file in Konsole how do you save it from console?
[19:40] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: how are you editing it? vim ?
[19:40] <Eicca> oh it is a directory
[19:40] <Eicca> lol :D
[19:40] <TheFuzzball> but I use Compiz Fusion and I need the transparency support
[19:40] <sigma_kubuntu> why note use kate to edit
[19:40] <andrewlin> emilsedgh: vim?
[19:40] <Eicca> thought it was only a file with no .xx
[19:40] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: how are you editing that file? with what editor?
[19:41] <sigma_kubuntu> vim!
[19:41] <andrewlin> oh, through Konsole, if thats possible?
[19:41] <sigma_kubuntu> ok dat neva worked
[19:41] <andrewlin> emilsedgh: through Konsole, if that's possible
[19:42] <sigma_kubuntu> u hav 2use kate in da kde gui
[19:42] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: if you want to edit a file from konsole, you need to open it by an editor.vim is an example...try vim filename
[19:42] <emilsedgh> !vim | andrewlin
[19:42] <ubotu> andrewlin: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[19:42] <andrewlin> emilsedgh: ok thnx
[19:44] <acee1235> after much tinkering open sound works for system sound and sound test but not for amarok or xine any ideas on a fix?
[19:44] <smithw> Apparently, I was wrong. The problem persists. If I try to login in graphical mode, the login controls just disappears and nothing else happens. The mouse is alive, I can switch to text mode if I want (this is how I got here), but KDE (nor Gnome, I have both installed and tried it as well) doesn't start. If I try, from the console, to start KDE with xinit -e kdestart, then it starts.
[19:44] <sigma_kubuntu> try alsa for sound
[19:44] <acee1235> doesnt work
[19:44] <sourcemaker> is there a known bug in juk with large sound files?I can't seek them
[19:46] <Don_jr333> is the wine in the apt work alright? or should I get it from the web site?
[19:46] <smithw> Does anyone have a clue on what may be happenning?
[19:46] <Eicca> what is the command to cut?
[19:46] <sigma_kubuntu> use wine frm da repo
[19:46] <genii> Don_jr333: getdeb has latest package
[19:46] <emilsedgh> Don_jr333: get it from apt
[19:46] <acee1235> anyone know how to troubleshoot alsa ive followed alot of tutorials to no avail
[19:46] <Eicca> and if im in home, how can I copy a directory from there without writing the /home/username/ ?
[19:47] <Don_jr333> sigma_kubuntu will do
[19:47] <genii> I think also wine page has debs for 7.04 and 7.10
[19:47] <Eicca> what is the command to cut?
[19:47] <Eicca> and if im in home, how can I copy a directory from there without writing the /home/username/ ?
[19:48] <smithw> Eicca, to copy a directory, use cp -R (-R stands for "recursive"). If you are in the same directory as the source of your copy, just write the name of that directory, with no slashed before it.
[19:48] <smithw> *slashes
[19:48] <genii> emilsedgh: ver 0.9.41 from repos , current is 0.9.50 and if you go to #winehq for assistance ,not at 0.9.50 they won't even look at you
[19:48] <Eicca> smithw: okay thanks
[19:49] <emilsedgh> genii: so you should try to find a repository for newer wine packages or compile it
[19:50] <alessio> hello, when i entering in the #kubuntu-it canal, it directing me to #ubuntu-it. What can I do? (i' m italian, excuse for my english)
[19:50] <Eicca> smithw: btw, is there a defragmentation tool for kubuntu?
[19:50] <genii> emilsedgh and Don_jr333 http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb for repo instructions
[19:51] <emilsedgh> genii: thanks.sorry first i tought Don_jr333 wants to get the sources, im not a wine user and i havent much experience with it
[19:51] <Don_jr333> genii how can I remove something I installed with apt?
[19:51] <smithw> Eicca, I'm afraid I can't answer that 100% accuratelly, but I *think* there's not, because the format ubuntu uses to its partitions doesn't need to be defragmentated. But I might be totally mistaken.
[19:51] <genii> Don_jr333: If you did: sudo apt-get install <something>    then do: sudo apt-get remove <something>
[19:52] <Don_jr333> thanks
[19:52] <genii> Don_jr333: Additionally to purge config files from system do: sudo apt-get remove --purge <something>
[19:53] <Don_jr333> genii do the --purge at the same time as remove? or after?
[19:54] <genii> Eicca: You mean to defrag windows drives from in linux? Or if there is a similar tool as windows defrag but in linux for linux filesystem. If second thing, no, linux ext filesystem does not need defragging utility.
[19:54] <RobNyc> hello everyone , anyone here is running kde4 ?
[19:54] <genii> Don_jr333: Same time if you want to flush out it's config files. if you wanted to save the configs don't use the --purge
[19:55] <Tokeiito> good evening
[19:55] <Tokeiito> today i upgreided to 7.10 and now have problems with nvidia drivers
[19:56] <Tokeiito> error message is versions missmatch
[19:56] <Tokeiito> i've tryed all ways i found in forums and still dont have any result. any ideas how to fix that?
[19:57] <genii> Tokeiito: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-kernel-common
[19:58] <Tokeiito> i've already reinstalled it. removed and purged all packages for nvidia.
[19:58] <rmaj> why ubuntu shows me some gayass dialog instead shutting down, when I press shutdown power button - and when to configure it?
[19:59] <ardchoille> rmaj: That's in case you made a mistake and it's a kde thing, not a kubuntu thing. Talk to the kde devs.
[20:00] <rmaj> but where can I find appl to manage these?
[20:02] <Don_jr333> genii the direction for gusy arn't working properly for me on this winehq site
[20:02] <Don_jr333> getting a 404 error on the second wget
[20:03] <Don_jr333> I got it, had a typo
[20:03] <Csigaa> re
[20:03] <Don_jr333> now if I do an apt-get install wine, it'll pull the new one?
[20:05] <Don_jr333> good, it's geting the new one, thank you
[20:10] <kraut> moin
[20:10] <genii> don: You add the repo: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list      then you add the gpg key: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -       then you: sudo apt-get update        then you install wine:   sudo apt-get install wine
[20:11] <Eicca> guys! I got my splash screens just the way I wanted :) thanks for that! I still got alot of questions; do you know any dead pixel fixers for kubuntu? (prefer the one that flashes just one pixel) thanks alot! =)
[20:11] <genii> Don_jr333: Yes, after it should put 0.9.50
[20:11] <Don_jr333> genii I got it, thank you, I had a typo in my command.  I'ts running just fine now! =)
[20:11] <Don_jr333> thanks alot
[20:13] <genii> Don_jr333: Glad to help
[20:16] <Csigaa> emilsedgh: I didn't have upgrade-manager-core installed, so did'nt have do-release-upgrade command
[20:16] <Csigaa> but 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' did the work after dist-upgrade :)
[20:17] <rmaj> how to have power button just shutdown my computer
[20:17] <Csigaa> rmaj: configure the ACPI event
[20:17] <rmaj> Csigaa: how
[20:17] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: try adept_manager --dist-upgrade
[20:17] <Csigaa> take a look at /etc/acpi and you will know ;)
[20:19] <Csigaa> emilsedgh: no change. Seems so that I have all required package installed
[20:19] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: there is a new button on the toolbar, isnt?
[20:19] <Csigaa> I even have an annoying network config applet on my tray
[20:19] <genii> Don_jr333: You can check which version is installed after by: sudo apt-cache policy wine
[20:20] <rmaj> how to have cool 3d desktop? im on nvidia
[20:20] <Don_jr333> genii thanks alot, it also showed durring the install which version it had.  But I appriciate the info
[20:20] <Csigaa> rmaj: install Project Looking Glass (by Sun)
[20:20] <Csigaa> now that is 3D
[20:21] <Csigaa> like an FPS game :D
[20:21] <Csigaa> but if you need useless vomit-triggering effects, you need compiz
[20:21] <rmaj> why kubuntu is so broken>
[20:21] <rmaj> every thing I trie - sucks
[20:21] <Csigaa> have a nice crash ;)
[20:21] <rmaj> try
[20:21] <Csigaa> broken?
[20:22] <rmaj> yes
[20:22] <Csigaa> how?
[20:22] <thorns> Csigaa: Excuse me, I don't think Looking Glass is true 3D, it's 2D looking 3D.
[20:22] <Eicca> how come this wont work? > http://i.servut.us/i/snapshot4.png
[20:22] <rmaj> in example, I want stupid gksudo to ask me for root password, not for user password, how to
[20:23] <ScorpKing> !root | rmaj
[20:23] <ubotu> rmaj: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:23] <Csigaa> thorns: well, you need a real 3D display, not a "flat" CRT or LCD, to have real 3D
[20:23] <Csigaa> but LG is the closest to 3D
[20:23] <rmaj> ScorpKing: I know ubuntu is for noobs, therefore it doesnt have a real root account
[20:23] <rmaj> but I de-noobified ubuntu by simple  sudo passwd root
[20:23] <rmaj> so now I want to be asked the _root_ password, as in other distros
[20:24] <thorns> Csigaa: Oh, you're right. But OpenGL is more promising.
[20:24] <bacli1> hello
[20:24] <rmaj> on denoobifies ubuntu, how to have gksudo asking for root password
[20:25] <Csigaa> rmaj: tried to install Debian intead? :)
[20:25] <Csigaa> de-noobify lol :D
[20:25] <rmaj> Csigaa: debian sucks probably even more
[20:25] <bacli1> can anyone suggest a compositing window manager that isn't Compiz?  something more stable perhaps?
[20:25] <Csigaa> rmaj: oh sorry, then you have to use text installer xD
[20:25] <Csigaa> that is noob
[20:25] <Csigaa> i see xD
[20:25] <rmaj> I had debian for long time, it is grave-old
[20:25] <ScorpKing> rmaj: i don't think anyone will be happy to help with that. most people here try to stick to sudo.
[20:26] <Csigaa> rmaj: then my debian is deviant
[20:26] <thorns> bacli1: Enlightment :D
[20:26] <Csigaa> it has KDE 3.5.8 and 2.6.22 kernel
[20:26] <Csigaa> glibc 2.7
[20:26] <Csigaa> etc
[20:26] <Csigaa> I think I have done something terribly wrong
[20:26] <rmaj> Csigaa: and 1 year old gnome?
[20:26] <Csigaa> gnome sucks, sorry :)
[20:26] <t3ch13> I can't get sound to work on my laptop with Kubuntu Gutsy anybody have any ideas?
[20:26] <sub[t]rnl> gksudo isn't going to ask for a user password, it is asking for the super user password... hence gk"su"peruser-"do"
[20:26] <rmaj> and how horrible old is gnome in debian?
[20:27] <rmaj> sub[t]rnl: it was asking me for user password
[20:27] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- um, that is completely wrong
[20:27] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- sudo requires your user password, not the root password
[20:27] <Csigaa> rmaj: use Mandrake or something
[20:27] <Csigaa> Fedora
[20:27]  * ScorpKing nods..
[20:27] <Csigaa> then you get your not-noob distro with recent hor^H^H^HGNOME
[20:28] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- sudo requiring the root password would completely defeat the purpose of sudo
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> i didn't say root password did i?
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[20:28] <Csigaa> rmaj: and consider looking at the channel name... kubuntu channel... and you are asking about gksu :)
[20:28] <rmaj> Csigaa: in oldbian, the Boost lib is 1 year old, and people need that lib to develop c++ apps
[20:28] <genii> yes
[20:28] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- root is the "super user" in Unix
[20:28]  * genii sudo passwd's sub[t]rnl!
[20:29] <ScorpKing> hi genii! ;)
[20:29] <Csigaa> rmaj: SID?
[20:29] <rmaj> Csigaa: oldbian testing
[20:29] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- you always use your own user password with sudo
[20:29]  * genii slides ScorpKing a coffee
[20:29] <Csigaa> well, I have used SID for years
[20:29] <Csigaa> everything recent
[20:29] <Csigaa> tooo recent (Xorg 7.3 sucks)
[20:29]  * ScorpKing takes a sip and pass genii some doughnuts..
[20:29] <rmaj> Csigaa: how old is libboost?
[20:30] <Csigaa> I don't know
[20:30] <Csigaa> this box has Kubuntu
[20:30] <rmaj> Csigaa: its over a year old
[20:30] <rmaj> recent version is 2 months
[20:30] <ScorpKing> rmaj: most likely not as old as the kernel
[20:30] <ScorpKing> that was invented in 1991
[20:30] <Csigaa> but if you are such great developer why don't you use su in xterm?
[20:30] <sub[t]rnl> um, my root password is different from my user password
[20:30]  * genii munches
[20:30] <Csigaa> why do you need all the GUI horror?
[20:31] <rmaj> Csigaa: Im not nerd
[20:31] <Csigaa> rmaj: yes.  But when you are coding in linux, I can't believe you can't use console
[20:32] <Tm_T> rmaj: erm?
[20:32] <Tm_T> Csigaa: behave
[20:32] <Csigaa> sorry.
[20:32] <Csigaa> he was arrogant first :p
[20:32] <rmaj> Tm_T: Csigaa think GUIs are for idiots, and he is always right
[20:32] <Tm_T> !guidelines | Csigaa and rmaj:
[20:32] <ubotu> Csigaa and rmaj:: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:32] <Tm_T> rmaj: he isn't
[20:32] <rmaj> I tink he is, he looks smart
[20:33] <Csigaa> you too :) you de-noobified an Ubuntu, omg
[20:33] <Csigaa> youre great ;)
[20:33] <rmaj> anyway, how to have GUI apps ask me for root passwrod to execute su commands
[20:33] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- you don't
[20:33] <rmaj> Csigaa: something wrong with denoobifing lack of root account?
[20:33] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- that would defeat the purpose of sudo
[20:34] <rmaj> so sudo is defeated on most other distros, that ask for root password?
[20:34] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- if you want to be root, login as root to begin with
[20:34] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- I don't know of any *nix that requires the root password for sudo
[20:34] <misticwarrior> hey
[20:34] <misticwarrior> wazup ?
[20:34] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- FreeBSD certainly doesn't
[20:34] <rmaj> no, I want to be an user, that executes administrator command after authorisin using some password, other then his own password
[20:35] <rmaj> Dragnslcr: debian asked for root passwrod in this situations
[20:35] <ScorpKing> rmaj: if you enable the root account and get rid of sudo you will run into a lot of problems with GUI and so on.
[20:35] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- are you sure it was using sudo? That seems rather suspicious that it would ask for the root password
[20:35] <rmaj> I am in KDE Controll, I click administrative mode and I am asked for user's password, I like to be asked here for root password. How to?
[20:35] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, the whole point of sudo is that you don't need to know the root password
[20:36] <rmaj> Dragnslcr: see above use case
[20:36] <Csigaa> man sudoers
[20:36] <Csigaa> (or visudo)
[20:36] <eroticon> hello
[20:36] <eroticon> anyone around?
[20:36] <Csigaa> or copy /etc/sudoers from "oldbian" to "noobuntu"
[20:36] <misticwarrior> yep
[20:36] <eroticon> when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it does not try to autodetect my video card
[20:36] <eroticon> what could be wrong?
[20:36] <rmaj> Csigaa: if I would be nerd I would use some text mode only distro or cook up LFS.  The goal of ubuntu was to free users from reading tons of mans afair?
[20:37] <Csigaa> rmaj: you are messing with low-level thing
[20:37] <Csigaa> even Windows does not have a GUI for that
[20:37] <Csigaa> you are all looking at it wrong
[20:37] <rmaj> I hoped that Ubuntu would be better then windows
[20:37] <eroticon> help?
[20:37] <rmaj> eroticon: there was agair some option
[20:37] <misticwarrior> I have a little problem. I want to start mplayer in shell mode before kdm or gdm... So It would play without starting x... like starting it in tty1, as well I could stop it when I want... but I don't know where to write my script... I tried in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.h but it does anything..
[20:38] <rmaj> eroticon: to set level of details of questions in (re)configure
[20:38] <eroticon> huh?
[20:38] <rmaj> misticwarrior: asciiart or framebuffer?
[20:38] <eroticon> how can i tell it to autodetect my video card
[20:38] <rmaj> (just curious)
[20:38] <rmaj> eroticon: not sure... ask also #ubuntu
[20:38] <Csigaa> rmaj: do you want to set up something, or do you want to depreciate everything? :)
[20:38] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: put your script in /etc/rc.local
[20:38] <misticwarrior> rmaj: it's just music, not a video ;)
[20:39] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: and then will it start in tty1 ?
[20:39] <rmaj> Csigaa:  I am in KDE Controll, I click administrative mode and I am asked for user's password, I like to be asked here for root password. How to?
[20:39] <Csigaa> rmaj: I have written down.
[20:39] <rmaj> Csigaa: without digging up tons of manuals, some people try to have life
[20:39] <misticwarrior> rmaj: where you speaking about the -caca library ?
[20:39] <Csigaa> If you don't desire to use console, then you can install... ehrm... MacOS?
[20:39] <Csigaa> well, that wont prompt for anything
[20:40] <rmaj> macos looks like designed for retards, even mouse is 1 buttoned
[20:40] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: any commands in that script should start. not sure if you'll have to log in on tty1 first or something
[20:40] <misticwarrior> rmaj: +1 :P
[20:40] <Csigaa> rmaj: if nothing is good for you, then get a life :D
[20:40] <rmaj> Csigaa: but I need at least one good distro
[20:40] <kalorin> I don't know there's a lot of fun stuff that the mac os does that seems pretty reasonable
[20:40] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: in fact I want to have the possibility to stop mplayer... so how to do it when it has start in rc.local ? :P
[20:41] <Csigaa> rmaj: but your definition of "good" is not too realistic ;)
[20:41] <rmaj> kalorin: like making you iBitch by dissallowing to skip commercialls in DVDs
[20:41] <kalorin> I'm running linux mostly because I wouldn't pay that kind of cash for a computer
[20:41] <rmaj> Csigaa: with simple change gksudo would meet my standards of good
[20:41] <kalorin> however I really like their styling and interface stuff
[20:42] <kalorin> how can't you lust after the 30" cinema displays?
[20:42] <Csigaa> rmaj: you don't want to click the second button, but you rebel against one-button mouse ;)
[20:42] <rmaj> btw, some christains on ubuntu kicked me for using the making-love word, how to ask them to lift ban
[20:42] <Csigaa> rmaj: this is pointless
[20:42] <kalorin> rmaj: well, this _IS_ a family show
[20:42] <trpr> rmaj: i think what you are describing is a side-effect of ubuntu's way of dealing with root. ubuntu doesn't have the root acct enabled by default. everything is done through sudo, which explains why you are asked for your user password and not the root password... there shouldn't be a root password. not unless you purposefully added it
[20:43] <rmaj> kalorin: well mac was nice to look at, but not so comfortable
[20:43] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: that's where i keep all my custom scripts. i have no idea how you can do what you're trying though. there are other small cli apps for playing music btw
[20:43] <Csigaa> rmaj: dude, you sure have something else to do, instead of this pointless arguing
[20:43] <rmaj> trpr: yes, I already debnoobified ubuntu by enabling root account as written in wiki; Now I would like to be asked for that password instead users password when users executes admin command
[20:43] <kalorin> 7.10 fresh install didn't seem to know what to do with my quadra video card
[20:43] <mikes1> trpr, Needed for "admin" kcontrol/
[20:43] <kalorin> took a few minutes of picking and trying to find all the various packages to install to get startx to start x
[20:43] <rmaj> Csigaa: I REALLY want to be asked for ROOT passwd instead user's
[20:44] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ok, i'll try then :) thx for tip :)
[20:44] <Csigaa> you even contradict yourself, your "needs"
[20:44] <kalorin> rmaj, that's not sudo
[20:44] <trpr> rmaj: well, if you put it that way, you need to continue to denoobify the tools you have, because they have been configured to work in the system you just broke
[20:44] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: do we say "tip" in english ?
[20:44] <ScorpKing> rmaj: we can't help you with that here. please stop complaining.
[20:44] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:44] <rmaj> trpr: yes, this is my question: how to denoobify ksudo
[20:44] <kalorin> sudo asks for the users password and compares that user account (if they authenticate correctly) against what that user is allowed to do in the sudoer's file
[20:44] <rmaj> ScorpKing: isn't it kubuntu related question?  if not then where to ask
[20:44] <kalorin> that's just how it works
[20:44] <kalorin> type sudo su - if you want to bypass that
[20:45] <stdin> rmaj: kdesu/kdesu work the way sudo does
[20:45] <kalorin> but there's simply no root account password
[20:45] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: not sure. i think tip is correct. and you're welcome. ask in ##linux as well.
[20:45] <stdin> *kdesu/kdesudo
[20:45] <rmaj> kalorin: I thought on other distros it is asking for root password, how to have that on kubuntu
[20:45] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:45] <kalorin> that's su, not sudo
[20:45] <rmaj> kalorin: I have root password
[20:45] <kalorin> you can always type "su -"
[20:45] <Csigaa> rmaj: your incompetence in setting up sudo is NOT the bug of the OS :p
[20:45] <rmaj> kalorin: no, on other distros _sudo_ also asks for root password, the same as su
[20:45] <kalorin> and type the root password and become root
[20:45] <rmaj> omfg
[20:45]  * ScorpKing pulls on his hair..
[20:45] <rmaj> jesus
[20:46] <sigma> how can i check that ports 5678, 5679 and 990 are not blocked by a firewall?
[20:46] <kalorin> rmaj, none of the other distributions that I've used, including debian, ubuntu/kubuntu, redhat and so on
[20:46] <Daisuke_Ido> rmaj: if you have such a stick in your rear about "denoobifying" ubuntu, use another distro that's pre-"denoobified"
[20:46] <ScorpKing> !wtf > rmaj
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> sigma: iptables -L
[20:46] <sigma> also how can i check which usb port my cellpnone is connected to?
[20:46] <sigma> thanks
[20:46] <trpr> rmaj: i have no idea; i don't know what they have done to it to make the whole sudo scenario work. imho it would be easier to start with plain old debian than to take apart ubuntu. you could try recompiling the tool with different options though
[20:46] <kalorin> I'd suggest going out and trying that one that compiles all the packages for you
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> lsusb
[20:46] <kalorin> the name escapes me at the moment
[20:46] <Daisuke_Ido> gentoo
[20:46] <kalorin> yeah gentoo thanks
[20:47] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that would be a much better option than deconstructing a working system and complaining when it no longer works
[20:47] <kalorin> I personally don't care if I get an extra 2% performance out of it
[20:47] <ScorpKing> sigma: dmesg | tail should show when you plug it in. also run sudo wvdialconf to do most of the work for you if you gonna use it as a modem
[20:47] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:47] <Daisuke_Ido> !repeat
[20:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:47] <Csigaa> Eicca: hamachi works out-of-the-box, as far as I know
[20:47] <kalorin> I'll take the generic i386 packages, I'm happy they're solid and run well
[20:47] <Csigaa> well, it has no GUI
[20:48] <Eicca> Csigaa: do you know how to operate it?
[20:48] <roland> Anyone have any tips for copying large (5+ GB) files? I keep getting a "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)"
[20:48] <Csigaa> Eicca: are you familiar with the console environment?
[20:48] <roland> I did a
[20:48] <Eicca> my ./hamachi-init doesnt work
[20:48] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: it says "policy accept" for all the iptable stuff, does that mean that the ports are not blocked?
[20:48] <Eicca> Csigaa: depends on what do you mean by familiar
[20:48] <Csigaa> Eicca: okay then you are :)
[20:48] <roland> ulimit -f<PHONE_NUMBER>, but i still get it
[20:48] <Csigaa> Eicca: did you get any errors?
[20:48] <Eicca> not at all
[20:48] <Csigaa> strange...
[20:48] <sub[t]rnl> sigma: in a default installation everything is accepted by your firewall
[20:48] <Eicca> where am I supposed to run the ./hamachi-init?
[20:48] <Csigaa> where it is...
[20:48] <Daisuke_Ido> roland: what are you copying them *to*?
[20:48] <roland> to a external HD
[20:49] <Eicca> Csigaa: where is it then?
[20:49] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: ah i see, well lemme give synce another go
[20:49] <Daisuke_Ido> formatted with what FS?
[20:49] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: heh, good question
[20:49] <Csigaa> Eicca: it is where you have untar'd the archive
[20:49] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: sorry for noob me
[20:49] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries
[20:49] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: I guess you are suggesting I need to format it it to some fs?
[20:49] <Daisuke_Ido> it's likely formatted fat32, which cannot handle files above 4gb at all
[20:49] <Csigaa> Eicca: ./hamachi-init means that the shell should run the "hamachi-init" file in the present directory
[20:50] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: I guess you are right
[20:50] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: I just got it out of the box
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> tep, 90% chance it's fat32 then :)
[20:50] <Csigaa> Eicca: it has to have execute privileges (type: chmod +x hamachi-init)
[20:50]  * ScorpKing agrees with Daisuke_Ido
[20:50] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: thanks! I'll reformat and try again.
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> !format | roland
[20:50] <ubotu> roland: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> qtparted should take care of your problem :)
[20:51] <Daisuke_Ido> !qtparted
[20:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, ubotu: thanks guys!
[20:51] <Eicca> Csigaa: yea I know
[20:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[20:51] <Csigaa> Eicca: then, what's the problem, again :)
[20:51] <Eicca> Csigaa: I was trying to locate it but I forgot the updatedb :D
[20:51] <Csigaa> ehh :)
[20:52] <Eicca> Csigaa: I did this sudo /usr/bin/hamachi-init
[20:52] <kalorin> anyone played with vmware2?
[20:52] <kalorin> server is free and out now
[20:52] <Csigaa> Eicca: and what happened?
[20:52] <Eicca> but the ./hamachi still wont work..?
[20:52] <Eicca> nothing appeared to the screen
[20:53] <Csigaa> Eicca: if hamachi-init was in /usr/bin then hamachi should also
[20:53] <Csigaa> but you won't get any GUI
[20:54] <Csigaa> it is menu or parameter-based (or at least it was when I played with it)
[20:54] <rmaj> sigh
[20:54] <rmaj> apparently sudo is indeed not denoobified also in other distros, so only fix would be to use PAM
[20:55] <Csigaa> rmaj: it was all we said...... :)
[20:55] <Eicca> Csigaa: I wont get anything at all
[20:55] <Eicca> sudo /usr/bin/hamachi wont say anything _at__all_?!
[20:55] <rmaj> so in ubuntu basicly an user can destroy other user account / steall his files / destroy system?  without need to know any speciall password other then his own password?
[20:56] <Csigaa> Eicca: is hamachi running, or listening on any port?
[20:56] <Csigaa> Eicca: I remember that it provides some text UI... it should ask for the network or anything
[20:56] <Eicca> Csigaa: how do I check if its running?
[20:56] <rmaj> where can I set that I want monitor to power down after 20 minutes?
[20:57] <XceII> Will DEVEDE work in jubuntu?
[20:57] <XceII> kubuntu
[20:57] <Csigaa> Eicca: 1. 'ps -A|grep hamachi' 2. 'netstat -tuaep|grep hamachi'
[20:57] <Csigaa> XceII: of course :)
[20:57] <XceII> k..thanks.
[20:57] <Tokeiito> it seems that my problems with nvidia driver are cose i dont have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic. but when i try to install, im getin message: E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic has no installation candidate
[20:57] <Tokeiito> how to solve that problem?
[20:57] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: feisty?
[20:58] <Tokeiito> was feisty, upgreided to 7.10
[20:58] <Csigaa> then gutsy
[20:58] <Tokeiito> after that i have problems with nvidia
[20:58] <Tokeiito> yes - gutsy
[20:58] <Eicca> Csigaa: nope, not running
[20:58] <Eicca> why wont they do a GUI to linux :/
[20:58] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[20:59] <Csigaa> but I think nvidia is in nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx (package)
[20:59] <Csigaa> restricted modules are for WLAN and bluetooth and so (FIXME)
[20:59] <Tokeiito> same error: E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic has no installation candidate
[20:59] <Eicca> Csigaa: ::(:(:((( im getting frustrated
[20:59] <Csigaa> Eicca: I don't know... :S
[20:59] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: you are using the old kernel
[21:00] <Tokeiito> ok. how to chek what kernel i'm on now?
[21:00] <Csigaa> reboot, and press ESC in grub (it asks), then select 2.6.22
[21:00] <rmaj> where can I set that I want monitor to power down after 20 minutes?
[21:00] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: uname -r
[21:00] <ubuntu_> hola
[21:00] <Csigaa> rmaj: go and read something...
[21:00] <Tokeiito> Csigaa: ist new one: 2.6.20-16-generic
[21:00] <Csigaa> or just right-click on the desktop....................
[21:00] <Tokeiito> *its
[21:00] <rmaj> Csigaa: what?
[21:00] <bascule> I am having trouble installing ubuntu to an external drive cause I can't get grub to go on, not a BIOS drive it tells me, any suggestions?
[21:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !coc | Csigaa
[21:00] <ubotu> Csigaa: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[21:01] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: if it's gusty, then you should reboot
[21:01] <Tokeiito> ok. will try.
[21:02] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: I haven't any /etc/rc.local file ?!
[21:02] <Tokeiito> thank you Csigaa, but i think that i'll be back :|
[21:02] <Csigaa> and when you're running the new 2.6.22 kernel, then install the appropriate restricted-modules package
[21:02] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: create it
[21:03] <Csigaa> rmaj: display properties... right-click on Desktop
[21:03] <misticwarrior> Ok I rebooting... :S c ya soon :P
[21:03] <misticwarrior> (I hope)
[21:03] <Csigaa> (in KDE. Gnome- don't ask me sorry)
[21:03] <LimCore> Csigaa: it's empty
[21:03] <Csigaa> LimCore: what is 'it'? :S
[21:04] <LimCore> Configure Display window - it's empty
[21:04] <Csigaa> LimCore: did you get any error message?
[21:04] <LimCore> Csigaa: how to start that form console
[21:05] <Csigaa> LimCore: kcmshell displayconfig
[21:05] <Csigaa> (in Kubuntu ofc)
[21:05] <LimCore> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'displayconfig'.
[21:06] <Csigaa> LimCore: something is wrong with your install and the module is missing
[21:06] <Csigaa> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:06] <Csigaa> this should install any missing component
[21:06] <misticwarrior> Ok it does nothing...
[21:07] <Tokeiito> after all reboot and so on, i'm get the same error: E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic has no installation candidate
[21:07] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: you have 2.6.22 kernel
[21:07] <Tokeiito> yes
[21:07] <Csigaa> Canonical is shipping that.
[21:07] <Csigaa> 2.6.20 modules are no longer present, because it is not feisty anymore
[21:07] <Csigaa> install the version in 'uname -r'
[21:08] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: one sec..
[21:08] <Csigaa> (2.6.22-14-generic, I suppose)
[21:08] <Tokeiito> but when i;m typing in console i'm geting that i'm using 2.6.20-16-generic
[21:08] <Csigaa> ehh
[21:08] <Csigaa> how did you upgrade?
[21:09] <sigma> i don't understand why my synce isn't working, i followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile to the tee, when i connect my device the pc picks it up because it creates a new ip address in network connections but synce refuses to see it, funnily enough if i enable my wireless modem synce picks up the device but obviously cannot sync to it, any help?
[21:09] <LimCore> Csigaa: KDE is broken in this respect
[21:09] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: is 2.6.22 is even installed?
[21:09] <Tokeiito> user Adept Manager
[21:09] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: apt-get install linux-image-generic
[21:09] <Bauldrick> how can i get dvd:rip to see my installed divx6
[21:09] <LimCore> Csigaa: indeed, it wants to pull in 47 modules
[21:09] <Tokeiito> "linux-image-generic is already the newest version."
[21:09] <Csigaa> LimCore: then install :)
[21:10] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: no problem
[21:10] <LimCore> Csigaa: I do, still I think it's a bug that should be reported? I seen it on serveral computers
[21:10] <ryppka> hi
[21:10] <regolo> hello
[21:10] <misticwarrior> hey
[21:10] <ryppka> testing kubuntu and have problem with ntfs usb/sata drive:(
[21:11] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: dpkg --status linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic |grep Status
[21:11] <Csigaa> it should say "install ok installed"
[21:11] <LimCore> Csigaa: hm?
[21:11] <Tokeiito> "Status: install ok installed"
[21:12] <ryppka> it doesn't get mounted due to hal-something rejected uid 1000
[21:12] <Tokeiito> so 2.6.22-14 is newer then 2.6.20 damn.. i'm stupid as.. as chiken
[21:12] <ryppka> kernel status is install ok installed
[21:12] <Csigaa> LimCore: I have a non-fresh install Gutsy. It is upgraded from Feisty and has the module. So I haven't encountered with the bug :(
[21:12] <Tokeiito> thank you Csigaa
[21:12] <vito_> dantonia
[21:12] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: np :)
[21:12] <|bulletxt|> vito_: vito srivi /server irc.azzurra.org
[21:12] <ryppka> no ideas?
[21:13] <Tokeiito> too little sleep in these days :)
[21:13] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: create a link to /etc/rc.local from /etc/rc5.d/S<unused_number>rc_local so it starts at boot. look at the scripts there to see in which order they start and decide what the number should be.
[21:13] <Tokeiito> ok. rebooting.
[21:13] <|bulletxt|> vito_: e poi scrivi /j #ubuntu
[21:14] <limac> hey
[21:14] <stdin> ScorpKing: rc5?
[21:14] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ok but... /etc/rc.local or /etc/init.d/rc.local ? Cause I have a /etc/init.d/rc.local...
[21:14] <limac> I'm new to kde, so can anyone tell me how to get sound on it?
[21:15] <ScorpKing> stdin: is that wrong?
[21:15] <stdin> ScorpKing: default is runlevel 2
[21:15] <ScorpKing> oh ok.
[21:15] <misticwarrior> so rc2... ?
[21:15] <Csigaa> limac: your user should be in the "sound" group. Then you should start KMix and set the volumes LOUD :)
[21:15] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: rc2 yes
[21:15] <Csigaa> (the mixer is set to NULL by default)
[21:15] <misticwarrior> k
[21:16] <limac> what do u mean by sound group?
[21:16] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i have my script in /etc/rc.local but it should still work i think
[21:16] <misticwarrior> i never know the order... ln -n /etc/rc.local /etc/rc2 etc or not ?
[21:16] <Csigaa> limac: user management in System Settings
[21:16] <limac> Csigaa: How can I change the NULL?
[21:16] <sigma> what kernel version does kubuntu 7.10 have?
[21:16] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: if the order is wrong it will say the file exist
[21:17] <misticwarrior> kk
[21:17] <Csigaa> limac: by drawing the potmeter with the mouse? :S
[21:17] <misticwarrior> ln -s* sry :D
[21:17] <Csigaa> sigma: 2.6.22
[21:17] <limac> Csigaa: what?
[21:17] <Csigaa> limac: you have started kmix, right?
[21:18] <limac> Csigaa: yeah
[21:18] <Csigaa> and you can see some mixer lines like PCM, Master, etc
[21:18] <sigma> how would i apply this patch to my kernel? - http://www.synce.org/index.php/Connecting_your_Windows_Mobile_2005_device_via_USB_%28usb-rndis-lite%29
[21:19] <limac> Csigaa: not really
[21:19] <Csigaa> limac: what type of sound card do you have?
[21:19] <stdin> sigma: by downloading the kernel source, following that guide, then recompiling it
[21:19] <limac> Csigaa: it says current mixer and nothing in there
[21:20] <limac> Csigaa: I thing hda intel
[21:20] <sigma> stdin: is that patch command what i must enter into konsole? also how do i update the kernel config?
[21:20] <Csigaa> limac: I have no experience with that :(
[21:21] <limac> Csigaa: can u tell me some link or anything like that
[21:21] <sigma> stdin: do i have to install any other packages prior to patching the kernel?
[21:21] <Csigaa> limac: alsa-project.org. The one and original source
[21:22] <Csigaa> sigma: if the kernel doesn't have the required modules (read /boot/config-`uname -r`), then you should recompile it :(
[21:22] <limac> so if I install alsamixer that'll work?
[21:22] <stdin> sigma: you don't need to, just do "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" to get the source, then replace "cd /usr/src/linux" with the directory created
[21:22] <limac> Csigaa ^
[21:22] <Csigaa> limac: alsamixer is kinda "console version" of kmix
[21:22] <Cannoli> does anyone know a way to hide kopete. like with msn messenger, if u had msn plus, you could press a hotkey and it would lock and the convos and stuff would dissaprear. i think its called boss protection or boss mode
[21:22] <Csigaa> limac: they do the very same things
[21:23] <sd32_> how do i change my mouse  cursor in kubuntu?
[21:23] <Csigaa> limac: try alsamixer, but if kmix didn't work.........
[21:23] <SGL> I use putty to Ssh over to my Kubuntu box. My putty sessions keep randomly freezing for half a minute before continuing. Does anyone know what that could be?
[21:23] <limac> but will that work if I install few drivers and stuff for alsa?
[21:23] <rmaj> sd32_: KDE menu -> settings -> controll center - search tehre... probably perphelias -m ouse\
[21:24] <sd32_> maj, nope
[21:24] <rmaj> sd32_: yes
[21:24] <sd32_> rmaj, not in there
[21:24] <rmaj> sd32_: how come not
[21:24] <rmaj> sd32_: perhaps you also hit the bug about broken KDE controll center? if so then please report it!
[21:24] <stdin> sigma: after you apply the patch just do "sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r)" and you can run "fakeroot debian/binary" or "sudo debian/binary" to create some .debs you can install
[21:25] <kalorin> ok now this is way messed up
[21:25] <sd32_> rmaj, no control center under settings
[21:25] <kalorin> I just did a format and reinstall of 7.10
[21:25] <sigma> ok i managed to get ahold of someone in the synce room, hopefully he can walk me through it
[21:25] <kalorin> then I did an upgrade on the packages, and now it's saying that a new version is available
[21:25] <kalorin> I kept my old home directory
[21:25] <rmaj> sd32_: KDE menu (the big icon in panel) tehre there is (on the bottom!)  Settings - and there first item is Control Center
[21:25] <stdin> sd32_: have you looked in System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse > Cursor Theme ?
[21:26] <kalorin> should I do another install move my old home out of the way and then move something back in there?
[21:26] <kalorin> this is too wacky
[21:26] <Tokeiito> as i said i'm back. now i'm gettin error that my x server cant load cose it cant intilise NVIDIA kernel modules
[21:26] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: doesn't do anything :(
[21:26] <kalorin> Tokeiito: I had that issue too
[21:26] <kalorin> jsut today
[21:26]  * rmaj hugs Csigaa it worked
[21:26] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: I think (as I said before) that nvidia module is not in restricted modules
[21:26] <Tokeiito> kalorin how you fixed it?
[21:26] <Csigaa> but it has a separate package
[21:26] <misticwarrior> I even tried rc-update... so now I can do /etc/init.d/mplayer_wakeup start
[21:26] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: try sudo ./<your_script>
[21:26] <Csigaa> apt-cache search nvidia
[21:27] <kalorin> I kept banging away at packages that I felt would help, then I was able to start x
[21:27] <Tokeiito> csigaa i've installed nvidia-gfx-new
[21:27] <kalorin> module-assistant
[21:27] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: not enough
[21:27] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: kk
[21:27] <Csigaa> you should have a kernel module too
[21:27] <kalorin> xserver-xorg-video-vn
[21:27] <Tokeiito> also nvidia kernel
[21:27] <Csigaa> nvidia-glx is only the OpenGL lib
[21:27] <kalorin> nvidia-glx
[21:28] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: ah. and run sudo chmod +x /etc/<script>
[21:28] <kalorin> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-generic
[21:28] <kalorin> nvidia-xconfig
[21:28] <misticwarrior> I did it ScorpKing
[21:28] <rmaj> how to set exact refresh rate of my monitor? 50, 58, 59  all work not so good, I think it should be 59.9 or 60 or 60.1
[21:28] <ardchoille> apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[21:28] <misticwarrior> sudo ./helloworld.sh says "command not found" ScorpKing :S
[21:29] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: are there errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? What do they say?
[21:29] <Tokeiito> chm.. its interesting cose with nvidia-glx i can lounch x server, but cant get normal resolution..
[21:29] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: can you pastebin it?
[21:29] <ScorpKing> !paste > misticwarrior
[21:29] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: resolution => dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:29] <Tokeiito> Csigaa 1 sec, will lounch x with nv
[21:29] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Try: sudo sh helloworld.sh
[21:29] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ho sorry, in fact sudo ./ works... I pastebin it now
[21:30] <ScorpKing> np
[21:30] <sd32_> stdin, rmaj, ok got it thanks
[21:31] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47739/
[21:31] <alesan> hi, I have just connected an external monitor to my laptop (thinkpad t61 with intel graphics)
[21:31] <alesan> what is the preferred waht to setup dual screen preferably not having to restart X or the system?
[21:32] <Tokeiito> k. back in normal irc client
[21:32] <Csigaa> alesan: xrandr
[21:32] <Csigaa> or something GUI :)
[21:32] <alesan> Csigaa: ok. any example to use xrandr?
[21:32] <Csigaa> alesan: no clue :)
[21:32] <Tokeiito> what i need to reconfigure for resolutions?
[21:33] <Csigaa> alesan: manpage... :)
[21:34] <alesan> the problem's that xrandr says: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1280
[21:34] <alesan> so I cannot basically add another monitor
[21:34] <ardchoille> Tokeiito: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:34] <Tokeiito> thank you
[21:35] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, ubotu: heh, ok - got it...of course I needed to get in trouble first for insisting It should be formatted as ntfs so I can read it on windows
[21:35] <Cannoli> does anyone know a way to hide kopete. like with msn messenger, if u had msn plus, you could press a hotkey and it would lock and the convos and stuff would dissaprear. i think its called boss protection or boss mode
[21:36] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: run which mplayer and put the full path in there. do that for all the commands like asoundconf as well
[21:36] <Daisuke_Ido> well, you can do ntfs, but i personally don't trust ntfs support in linux yet :)
[21:36] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's probably because i got burned once
[21:36] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: which <app> will give you the full path
[21:36] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, thanks for the tip
[21:37] <misticwarrior> which mplayer ? I don't understand... there is no path with "asoundconf" command ?!
[21:37] <Csigaa> Cannoli: switch desktop
[21:37] <misticwarrior> ho scuse me
[21:37] <misticwarrior> which is a command ;)
[21:37] <misticwarrior> Ok thx I try
[21:37] <Cannoli> no the kopete msgs still show in the bar down here vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[21:38] <Csigaa> Cannoli: then configure kicker to show only one desktop's windows
[21:38] <misticwarrior> ok i'm going to reboot to test now :)
[21:38] <Csigaa> Cannoli: look around the settings :)
[21:38] <Cannoli> oh
[21:38] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Wait
[21:38] <misticwarrior> k
[21:38] <Cannoli> good idea
[21:38] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Why are you rebooting?
[21:38] <misticwarrior> ardchoille: I'm here :D
[21:39] <misticwarrior> ardchoille: I want to test if my script starts at bootup
[21:39] <misticwarrior> so I must have a bootup :D
[21:39] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: just run the script to see if it works
[21:39] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Ah, ok
[21:39] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: if it does then reboot
[21:39] <Cannoli> thanx alot csigaa
[21:39] <Cannoli> :)\
[21:39] <misticwarrior> Yeah... thx ScorpKing, I'm back in a minute ;)
[21:39] <ScorpKing> righto
[21:40] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, ok - starting to see what you mean...I can't unmount the drive properly...I guess this means I can't trust everything is flushed to disk, correct?
[21:41] <Daisuke_Ido> no, just that ntfs support is still somewhat new, and with MS changing it every so often, it's like trying to hit a moving target
[21:42] <misticwarrior> re
[21:42] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: doesn't work...
[21:42] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: how does MS change his filesystem often?
[21:42] <Csigaa> okay that there are 2 or 3 NTFS versions (like extfs has too)
[21:42] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: but I have in idea that it should start in a shell... like tty1, shouldn't it ?
[21:42] <Csigaa> but it is not true that it "changes"
[21:43] <Csigaa> perhaps the new Vista-formatted NTFS can be trouble
[21:43] <Csigaa> *can be*
[21:43] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: in fact now nothing about my script happens...
[21:43] <Daisuke_Ido> Csigaa: minor things change
[21:43] <Daisuke_Ido> and yeah, it's trouble.  ntfs is a moving target
[21:44] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: then an older, not-so-often-updated XP can not read a new XP SP2-formatted partition?
[21:44] <Csigaa> I don't think so :S
[21:44] <raul> hola a todos
[21:44] <Tokeiito> ok it seems i resolved problem with resolution. thank you all. chm.. its just all view very sharp :(
[21:44] <Tokeiito> now have other problem, my sound doesnt work
[21:44] <Daisuke_Ido> The NTFS versions as installed on the last-named operating systems are sometimes referred to as v5.0, v5.1, and v6.0, after the version of Windows NT with which they ship. Each newer version added extra features, for example Windows 2000 introduced quotas while Windows Vista introduced Transactional NTFS, NTFS symbolic links, and self-healing functionality.[6]
[21:44] <Tokeiito> KMix is not runing
[21:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i *did not say that*, please do not put words into my mouth.
[21:45] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: now I understand :)
[21:45] <Tokeiito> also there is no mixer choise in KMix options
[21:45] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i'm out of ideas. have the script make a blank file with touch so you can see if it does get run. the link in /etc/rc.2/ should start with S so it starts
[21:45] <Csigaa> I thought the same that you have writtená
[21:45] <Csigaa> .á
[21:45] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: what is the link called btw?
[21:46] <Daisuke_Ido> they keep adding stuff that, when trying to use the older ntfs drivers on the linux side, can break things on the windows side, at least that's how i understand it
[21:46] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: I used rc-update... so it did it automatically
[21:46] <Daisuke_Ido> as it stands right now, if you have xp on the windows side, you should be just fine using ntfs-3g
[21:46] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: # update-rc.d apache_exemple defaults 20
[21:46] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: I have no problems reading/writing a non-compressed non-encrypted NT 5.1 (XP) NTFS.
[21:47] <Csigaa> but compressing is a problem :S
[21:47] <Csigaa> (and file access rights)
[21:47] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: and I see it used links with "etc/rc*"
[21:47] <misticwarrior> etc...
[21:47] <misticwarrior> it did something like :
[21:47] <Tokeiito> chm.. it seems that alsa is broken, cose even cant laounch alsamixer: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[21:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Csigaa: yeah.  for the most part, a typical user should have no issues using ntfs-3g
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> compression and encryption aren't fun
[21:48] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: oh ok. can you paste the relevant line from ls -l /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[21:48] <misticwarrior> kk
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i got burned trying to write to ntfs
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> reading's easy enough
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> granted, it was some time ago
[21:48] <Csigaa> the old NTFS kernel code?
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> but i haven't used windows in quite a while either :)
[21:48] <kalorin> ok
[21:49] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not sure
[21:49] <kalorin> can anyone tell me why apt is all out of sync after doing an install?
[21:49] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47743/
[21:49] <kalorin> is there some way to sync the repository
[21:49] <kalorin> of packages?
[21:49] <Flare183> sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: I remember when menuconfig wrote for NTFS writig support that it was dangerous
[21:49] <Csigaa> arout 2.6.8
[21:49] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[21:49] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:49] <Csigaa> *around
[21:49] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: but there doesn't seem to have a "mplayer_wakeup"... O_o
[21:49] <Flare183> talking to you kalorin
[21:49] <kalorin> no this isn't a crazh
[21:50] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ho : lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  24 2007-12-10 22:22 S20mplayer_wakeup -> ../init.d/mplayer_wakeup
[21:50] <kalorin> right
[21:50] <kalorin> this just keeps saying a new version is available and all these packages are ready to be upgraded
[21:50] <Flare183> bring up konsole type in sudo apt-get update
[21:50] <kalorin> but I just did a clean install (except for keeping my /home)
[21:50] <Flare183> doesn't matter
[21:50] <Flare183> i guess
[21:51] <kalorin> yeah the updater keeps telling me that there are packages that are messed up
[21:51] <ardchoille> kalorin: Right, the packages in the repos are newer version of the packages on your system, even if you just installed kubuntu today. you need to: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:51] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i see this one - S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local
[21:51] <Flare183> and upgrade every single one of them
[21:52] <kalorin> yeah
[21:52] <kalorin> I've got to do them 1 at a time from the command line
[21:52] <kalorin> ok
[21:52] <kalorin> welp tomorrow
[21:52] <kalorin> what a mess
[21:52] <Tokeiito> how to fire up sownd? it seems that alsa is down.
[21:52] <ardchoille> kalorin: No, you can upgrade all your packages at one time
[21:52] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: yeah... and ? :P
[21:52] <ardchoille> !sound | Tokeiito
[21:52] <ubotu> Tokeiito: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:53] <Tokeiito> thank you
[21:53] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: one thing though - your script does not log into tty1 so i'm not so sure if mplayer supports that. look in /var/log/? to see if there's anything usefull
[21:53] <Csigaa> bye
[21:54] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: in tty1, I can start my script..... manually...
[21:55] <mark__> hello
[21:55] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: oh i see. hmm.. grep the logs for mplayer ;)
[21:55] <mark__> can anyone help me with kaffeine?
[21:55] <misticwarrior> grep ?
[21:55] <mark__> ?
[21:56] <misticwarrior> how to ?
[21:56] <ScorpKing> oh
[21:56] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: find /var/log/ mplayer | grep mplayer ?
[21:57] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: sudo grep -r mplayer /var/log/ - IIRC
[21:57] <mark__> i've never used kubuntu before
[21:58] <ScorpKing> hi mark__
[21:58] <mark__> hello scorpking
[21:58] <mark__> how are you?
[21:59] <ScorpKing> good thanks. a few guides..
[21:59] <ScorpKing> !ask
[21:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:59] <ScorpKing> !ot > mark__
[21:59] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47744/
[21:59] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: mplayer_wakeup at line 37...
[21:59] <mark__> how do i get the shound working in kaffeine?
[22:01] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: that's not it.
[22:01] <ScorpKing> !sound | mark__: try this -
[22:01] <ubotu> mark__: try this -: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:01] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: and so... no idea ? :P
[22:02] <mark__> timeout on server
[22:02] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: that was when you manually started it with sudo. did you make the script touch a file so you can see if it runs at boot?
[22:02] <mark__> are you talking to me?
[22:03] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: no.. but I can... like "hello world > helloworld.txt" ?
[22:03] <mark__> eek
[22:03] <ScorpKing> touch /home/you/somefile.txt
[22:03] <mark__> i feel like i'm 12 again
[22:03] <misticwarrior> kk
[22:04] <mark__> not having a clue what to do
[22:04] <ardchoille> mark__: What do you need help with?
[22:04] <mark__> well, everything
 how do i get the shound working in kaffeine?
[22:04] <misticwarrior> ok I reboot
[22:04] <mark__> i download something to install and it comes in an archive
[22:04] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: ^
[22:04] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: ty
[22:04] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[22:05] <mark__> i unpack it and have no idea what to do with it
[22:05] <ardchoille> mark__: Did you check to see if the app was in the repos before downloading a package?
[22:05] <mark__> the what?
[22:05]  * ScorpKing thinks he needs some usefull guides..
[22:05] <mark__> for beginers :)
[22:05] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: first time user
[22:05] <ardchoille> mark__: Always check the repos before installing something as the app may be as easy to install as "sudo apt-get install app_name"
[22:05] <rmaj_> kubuntu fails to start X
[22:05] <rmaj_> wtf
[22:06] <mark__> how do i check it
[22:06] <ardchoille> mark__: You can cehck the repos by launching adept_manager
[22:06] <rmaj_> how to reinstall my nvidia propertriary driver
[22:06] <stdin> rmaj_: watch the language in here
[22:06] <mark__> that only has very few things in it
[22:07] <ardchoille> mark__: Which Kubuntu release did you install?
[22:07] <mark__> i downloaded a file called xine-lib-1.1.8.tar.bz2
[22:07] <mark__> erm.... 6.06?
[22:07] <ardchoille> mark__: xine is in the repos: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[22:08] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: it did nothing but...
[22:08] <ardchoille> mark__: fwiw, 6.06 is quite old.. 7.10 is the latest stable release
[22:08] <mark__> is it a simple upgrade?
[22:08] <misticwarrior> if I try "touch file" in a shell now, it does nothing too...
[22:08] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: if I try "touch file" in a shell now, it does nothing too...
[22:08] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: man touch
[22:08] <stdin> misticwarrior: "dose nothing" ? you sure
[22:08] <ardchoille> mark__: No, you have to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.01 to 7.10 :(
[22:08] <mark__> Package xine-ui is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:08] <mark__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:08] <mark__> is only available from another source
[22:08] <mark__> E: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate
[22:09] <stdin> misticwarrior: it would create a file called "file"
[22:09] <ScorpKing> !paste > mark__
[22:09] <mark__> ?
[22:09] <stdin> mark__: read the message from ubotu
[22:09] <misticwarrior> shit... I used it with an existing file...
[22:09] <misticwarrior> :D
[22:09] <misticwarrior> I re-try then :)
[22:09] <misticwarrior> brb
[22:09] <mark__> sorry
[22:10] <stdin> misticwarrior: touch won't overwrite a file, just update it's timestamp
[22:10] <sMonk> Hello
[22:10] <mark__> it says the file is missing
[22:11] <ardchoille> mark__: Since you are new, I'd recommend launching adept_manager and searching for xine
[22:11] <snikker> i've got a problem with k3b... when i verify a cd, it fail everytime, but all data are ok. can you help me?
[22:11] <sMonk> I have a question about removing a poblem when someone has a free min.
[22:12] <mark__> searching brings up no results
[22:12] <ardchoille> mark__: You may need to edit your sources. Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[22:12] <misticwarrior> GOOD NEW !!
[22:12] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[22:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:12] <misticwarrior> it created a file, stdin & ScorpKing :P
[22:12] <mark__> how do i do that?
[22:13] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: so the script run. :D
[22:13] <misticwarrior> stdin, ScorpKing : yeah and it works cause when I start it in a shell it works...
[22:13] <misticwarrior> but not at bootup...
[22:14] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: if it creates a file at boot then the script runs. maybe there's a problem with running mplayer like that
[22:14] <ScorpKing> S/runs/is correct
[22:14] <misticwarrior> stdin, ScorpKing : but if I run the script in tty1, it works perfectly !
[22:15] <Daisuke_Ido> what exactly are you trying to *do*?
[22:15] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: remember you're not logged in during boot
[22:15] <sMonk> I have been trying to install Java for Firefox, but with no luck. So I D/L a .bin file off the site for the Java plug in, saved it to my desktop, went and read the instructions on how to install this file, and did it. Now Firefox still has no Java support, and now I have a "globe" on my task bar that just comes up with "new server" when I click it, and I have the folder "jre1.6.0_03" that will not delete because it says "Access
[22:15] <sMonk> denied to /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/README" Any idea?
[22:16] <Daisuke_Ido> sMonk: did you look in the repositories
[22:16] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: but a server can start during boot... isn't it possible with a musicplayer ? :(
[22:16] <stdin> sMonk: you just install "sun-java6-plugin" to get java for firefox
[22:16] <sMonk> Under Kpackage
[22:16] <ScorpKing> sMonk: sudo chown dale:dale -R /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/
[22:16] <stdin> sMonk: and if you ran the .bin as root, then you need to delete the directory it created as root too
[22:17] <sMonk> ok, but did I mess anything up? (yes I installed as root)
[22:17] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i have no idea. you'll have to try some other player i think
[22:17] <misticwarrior> ok
[22:17] <misticwarrior> thanks for your help...
[22:17] <ScorpKing> yw
[22:17] <misticwarrior> I'm going to sleep now :)
[22:18] <ScorpKing> nite
[22:18] <misticwarrior> have a good night !
[22:18] <maduser> were is the off topic channel
[22:18] <stdin> sMonk: if you install "sun-java6-plugin" with adept/apt-get and it works in firefox, then it should be ok
[22:18] <rmaj_> how to have module foo loaded before mouting filesystems?
[22:18] <sMonk> I mean, should I be "un-installing" this .bin file some how? rather than just deleting the folder?
[22:18] <mark__> how do i register on this?
[22:18] <ScorpKing> !register
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[22:18] <sMonk> stdin: I'm doing that now
[22:18] <stdin> maduser: #kubuntu-offtopic
[22:18] <sMonk> stdin:  thanks
[22:19] <maduser> cool
[22:19] <maduser> where is arocholie?
[22:19] <stdin> rmaj_: add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[22:19] <rmaj_> stdin: just by hand, it will not be overwritten on upgrade?
[22:20] <mark__> where do i type the /msg nickserv?
[22:20] <rmaj_> mark__: right here
[22:20] <stdin> rmaj_: no, dpkg always asks when trying to overwrite config files
[22:21] <sMonk> I mean, should I be "un-installing" this .bin file some how? rather than just deleting the folder?
[22:21] <stdin> mark__: if it contains your password it's best to do it in the server tab, incase you accidentally add an extra space
[22:21] <mark__> thanks
[22:22] <stdin> sMonk: if it all works after installing the package, then you don't need to bother. just make sure you run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java" after you install
[22:22] <lingard> woo
[22:22] <rmaj_> how to have cool 3d desktop effects
[22:23] <lingard> thats the first thing i've been able to do since installing kubuntu
[22:23] <stdin> !compiz | rmaj_
[22:23] <ubotu> rmaj_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:23] <rmaj_> how stable is it?
[22:23] <stdin> not very
[22:24] <sMonk> WOW! I had 4 of them to choose from
[22:24] <andrewlin> What's a good program to use in replacement of Amarok?
[22:25] <lingard> how do i install the greyed out things in adept?
[22:25] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) why would you want to replace amarok, and 2) if you MUST, check out audacious if you want that old-tyme winampy feel
[22:25] <stdin> replace amarok? what are you insane? :P
[22:25] <stdin> !media
[22:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:25] <rmaj_> andrewlin: perhaps xmms, but why
[22:25] <sMonk> I selected the correct one, but when I go to "java.com" or what ever to "verify" installation, it still telling me I need to d/l Java plugin
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> sMonk: did you restart firefox?
[22:26] <stdin> sMonk: have you restarted firefox ?
[22:26] <sMonk> You mean close it, then re-open it?
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that's generally the definition of restart
[22:26] <andrewlin> I've been using Linux for two days now, and I just don't like using Amarok. I would prefer something more .. "windowies".
[22:26] <stdin> sMonk: yes
[22:27] <hydrogen> theres something "windowsy?"
[22:27] <sMonk> then yes
[22:27] <hydrogen> I can think of three completely different approaches on windows to media players
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: none of them good.
[22:27] <georgeb> andrewlin: what did you use on windows ?
[22:27] <hydrogen> well, foobar is pretty good if you spend half your life configuring it
[22:27] <andrewlin> WMP rofl
[22:27] <sMonk> Still no good
[22:27] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: i have to say that you are the first one that i have seen that doesnt like Amarok
[22:27] <stdin> sMonk: hmm, tell me. are you in 32bit or 64bit ?
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> you used windows media player?
[22:27] <sMonk> 32
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, oh no son, you need help :P
[22:28] <andrewlin> Well..I could just use wine to work with WMP but...I really don't want to.
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> give amarok a shot, read up on it.  see why it's the premier music software
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and it is
[22:28] <andrewlin> -.-'  fine =P
[22:28] <hydrogen> there is nothing closer to wmp on linux really
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> windows users are eager to get their hands on amarok 2.0 when it's released for windows :D
[22:29] <hydrogen> most of the big featured music apps on linux are Amarok clones
[22:29] <hydrogen> except for rhythmbox, which cloned itunes
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and not well
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> rhythmbox made me cry
[22:29] <sMonk> stdin: 32 bit
[22:29] <stdin> sMonk: try doing "sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so" and make sure "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" is selected
[22:29] <emilsedgh> while windows people are dying to get Amarok in win, you want wmp on wine!
[22:30] <sMonk> it wasn't, it is now
[22:31] <stdin> sMonk: ok, restart firefox (again), and let's see if it works
[22:31] <andrewlin> XD, I'm sorry I don't like Amarok!
[22:31] <sMonk> Whoraaayyy it does
[22:31] <sidrun> Kas siin on kedagi kes räägib eesti keelt???
[22:31] <jpatrick> !ee | sidrun
[22:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <hydrogen> yea
[22:32] <hydrogen> I'm not surprised ubotu.. neither do I :(
[22:32] <limac> hey i just tried to upgrade thru the update manager sort of thing for the upgrades that came and there it said the a new version available but i am using kubuntu gutsy?
[22:32] <andrewlin> One of the features that I'm going to have to get used to...single-click, not double.
[22:32] <ScorpKing> andrewlin: you can change it
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> andrewlin: that can be changed
[22:32] <stdin> andrewlin: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse
[22:32] <rubax> Hiya folks.
[22:32] <andrewlin> woot haha
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> in fact, i changed that real quick
[22:33] <rubax> Need help installing barry here
[22:33] <ScorpKing> yeah me too
[22:33] <rubax> I tried the.deb files, it installs
[22:33] <rubax> but I cant find it anywhere
[22:33] <henrik_> guys, i've got a problem with my KDE splash-screen, when it loads, after a while, it gets white, and only the loading iconbar shows... any ideas?
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it annoyed the #$^@# out of me when they tried it with win98's active desktop, and it annoyed the #$%@ out of me when kde did it :)
[22:34] <rubax> I also tried to install it from the tar file
[22:34] <ScorpKing> !find barry
[22:34] <ubotu> Package/file barry does not exist in gutsy
[22:34] <rubax> but when I try to do make, it shows some errors
[22:35] <rmaj_> !find cure for cancer
[22:35] <ubotu> Found: libroxen-secureinsert, seccure, secure-delete, zope-securemailhost
[22:35] <ScorpKing> rubax: looks like you'll have to compile it. what's the errors?
[22:35] <stdin> rmaj_: don't abuse the bot
[22:35] <rubax> let me show them, wait a sec
[22:35] <jpatrick> !abuse > rmaj_
[22:35] <georgeb> rubax: try dpkg -L barry (or what is the name of the package) to see what files are in that package and where they are unpacked
[22:35] <ScorpKing> !paste > rubax
[22:36] <BluesKaj> !estonia
[22:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about estonia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:36] <hydrogen> !es
[22:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:36] <hydrogen> I don't think so
[22:37] <henrik_> anyone got a tip for me regarding my splash-screen?
[22:37] <ScorpKing> henrik_: what size computer do you have?
[22:37] <BluesKaj> hydrogen, the country domain for estonia is .ee but there is no chat with language (in some ways similar to finnish)
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, bout 9" x 12"
[22:38] <BluesKaj> that language
[22:38] <henrik_> 1800 pentium processor, 512 mb ram, nvidia FX5900
[22:38] <sMonk> Ok, tyring to get rid of that folder, using the "sMonk: sudo chown dale:dale -R /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/"
[22:38] <ScorpKing> henrik_: oh. that's enough. tried another theme?
[22:38] <sMonk> I get, "command not found"
[22:39] <ScorpKing> sMonk: try sudo rm -r /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/
[22:39] <henrik_> ScorpKing: yes, and they all do the same, ended up using none of them, but i'd like to get one back..
[22:39] <andrewlin> Let's say that I want to burn songs off a CD while using Linux.  I'm guessing that first I just load the CD into the computer, select to run through Amarok, then select all the songs I want, hit Playlist -> Save Playlist As.. -> [Select a folder] and then take out the CD, select that playlist I created, go to Playlist -> Burn to CD -> [Follow instructions from there on out].  Correct?
[22:39] <sMonk> Yay! it's gone
[22:39] <ScorpKing> henrik_: sorry, no idea
[22:40] <henrik_> ScorpKing: ok, thank you anyway. :)
[22:40] <ScorpKing> np
[22:40] <stdin> andrewlin: or, you can just open audiocd:/ in konqueror and choose the format you want then copy and paste to where you want
[22:41] <sMonk> Ok, now I need to get rid of this "globe" on the toolbar
[22:41] <andrewlin> stdin: ok thnx
[22:41] <sMonk> When I click on it (right or left) it just says "create server..."
[22:42] <rubax> !paste
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[22:43] <sMonk> when I click that is says "New server - kpf" and some crap about not recommending sharing the root folder
[22:43] <rubax> ok ScorpionKing, here it is the output. I go to ./configure, does it without errors, then make
[22:44] <sMonk> Any ideas???
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> that appears to have nothing to do with java...
[22:44] <rubax> and I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47757/
[22:44] <rubax> Let me check the dpkg
[22:47] <andrewlin> stdin: Hey stdin, when I saved the Playlist I noticed it's just saving order of songs, etc...so I loaded the CD again and picked the option to use K3b, but in the options to download the songs it won't let me start..know how to fix?
[22:48] <stdin> andrewlin: have you tried going to audiocd:/ in konqueror? it's probably the easiest way of ripping a cd you'll ever use
[22:49] <alesan> hey my MIRCOSOF mouse is way too fast, I always have problems to aim it correctly
[22:49] <alesan> what can I do to reduce its speed and make it more accurate
[22:49] <alesan> Mircosoft
[22:49] <andrewlin> stdin: wow...so i just click and drag those files into the burn list?
[22:49] <alesan> it's a USB mouse and I also tried the bluetooth variant
[22:50] <alesan> way too fast
[22:50] <stdin> andrewlin: you just drag the files where ever you want to save them
[22:50] <andrewlin> stdin: wow, that is the easiest way of ripping, thnx for tips
[22:51] <stdin> andrewlin: no problem (and yes, that feature rocKs :)
[22:51] <bascule> alesan: in kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse
[22:51] <alesan> bascule: there is nothing about mouse speed that I can see
[22:51] <bascule> advanced tab
[22:52] <bascule> alesan: alt+f2 'kcontrol' go that way
[22:54] <alesan> bascule: I can see no mouse speed control sorry
[22:54] <bascule> ?
[22:54] <jac0b> Hello all, I need some help with samba and setting up a printer
[22:55] <nyork> jacob: what happened?
[22:55] <jac0b> I got a Win XP box that the printer is connected to and I can see it in the printer setup dialouge but when I click the computer I get nothing
[22:55] <alesan> bascule: if you can, open up kcontrol and tell me which option controls mouse speed because as far as I can see there is no setting for mouse speed.
[22:55] <alesan> anyway, it seems that
[22:55] <alesan> xset m 14/10 0
[22:55] <georgeb> alesan: accelaration
[22:55] <alesan> does a good job
[22:56] <nyork> jacob: you can browse the winxp box in your kubuntu?
[22:56] <alesan> thanks
[22:56] <sMonk> OK, I foundout that this icon is KPF (some file server for KDE) anyone know how to turn it off or get rid of it?
[22:56] <jac0b> umm
[22:57] <andrewlin> alesan: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> [In the left area] Mouse -> Advanced -> Pointer threshold
[22:57] <bascule> alesan: sorry, It seemed obvious to me ... :)
[22:57] <nyork> jacob: is your problem printing from kubuntu to xp
[22:57] <jac0b> yes thru konqueror and the printer setup but they are both blank once I select the computer w/ the printer
[22:57] <sigma> are there any equivalents to gwenview in the repo?
[22:57] <sMonk> nm... figured it out
[22:58] <sMonk> I'm dumb some days
[22:58] <jac0b> nyork: yes I want to print from kubuntu to XP
[22:58] <funkja> What channel would I want to join to ask questions about SMTP?
[22:59] <georgeb> jac0b: is the printer shared on XP ?
[22:59] <bascule> funkja: more specifc? a mail server or client or just general understanding?
[23:00] <jac0b> if I type smbclient -L localhost in term I get "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[23:00] <jac0b> yes the printer is shared on the xp box