BUT if the driver goez again try to get all the info about it... that way we could possibly fix it
[00:03] <kimp> ok webnet, thanks for your help
[00:03] <webnet> BernSamson: if you have a flash drive big enough yo could use untebootin
[00:03] <webnet> kimp: no problem :)
[00:03] <BernSamson> closest I have to a flash drive is a cell phone
[00:03] <BernSamson> lol
[00:03] <webnet> BernSamson: *UnetBootin sorry for the typo.
[00:04] <webnet> BernSamson: lol. oh that complicates things :P
[00:07] <enav> some on can help me?
[00:07] <JosephRuby> trying to install ggmud, the 'make' worked without any errors, but when I checkinstall it says make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. and the install fails.  Anyone care to comment?
[00:07] <webnet> LostyJai: sorry no one seems to be able your question
[00:08] <webnet> enav: what is ur question/problem?
[00:08] <pfifo> how can i determine what files a deb package installs?
[00:08] <enav> webnet:   i just tried to change the default msql datadir and the whole thing got screwed, i restored everithing to default but mysql still not working.... some help will be appreciated
[00:08] <gadak> Hello//i by mistake removed myself from sudoers....can any one tell me how can i revert back my adminship
[00:09] <pfifo> i got it nevermind
[00:09] <webnet> gadak: sudo su
[00:09] <webnet> users
[00:09] <killswitchguy> gadak: go to system settings->users
[00:10] <webnet> then user [yourusername]
[00:10] <webnet> see what group you are in.
[00:10] <MonkeyDust> gadak  try sudo visudo
[00:10] <gadak> mokey i get this message kashyap is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[00:10] <MonkeyDust> forget that
[00:11] <webnet> killswitchguy: that cant work because his account doesnt haveprivleges to change his group to sudo... it has to be done in cli
[00:11] <pedja> gadak: what exactly did you do?
[00:11] <killswitchguy> ok
[00:12] <webnet> gadak: um question... why do you want be a sudoer? that is kind of dangerous no?
[00:12] <gadak> MonkeyDust: sudo visudo gave same prob
[00:12] <webnet> you can just run sudo su and do everything
[00:12] <MonkeyDust> gadak  live session and then edit /etc/sudoers is all i can think of
[00:13] <gadak> pedja : i did
[00:13] <gadak> groupadd oe
[00:13] <gadak> usermod -G oe user_name
[00:13] <killswitchguy> gadak: u can also use alt+f2 and then type gksudo nautilus to become super user
[00:14] <moegialsdfj> hello
[00:14] <moegialsdfj> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[00:14] <mystiqueba> hi does anyone here use bitbucket?  I need help getting started with pushing git code for the first time.
[00:14] <pedja> gadak: so you have removed yourself form the admin group.
[00:14] <MonkeyDust> moegialsdfj  wrong channel
[00:15] <pedja> booting from live cd and changing /etc/group comes to mind
[00:15] <webnet> killswitchguy: i second that. hell you can even make a sudo nautilus shortcut on your desktop
[00:15] <webnet> or a root terminal.
[00:15] <gadak> killswitchguy :::that din work
[00:16] <synthetiq> I have a centos 4 isintall on my harddisck, but ubuntu 11 is not detecting it, what should I do? I want ubutnu 11 to be the primary with that non detected centos4 to be on there still
[00:16] <gadak> Pedja is that the reason i was taken away from sudo???
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> gadak  of course not, your sudo and gksudo are disabled
[00:16] <webnet> gadak: ok . open terminal and type sudo su
[00:16] <pedja> members of admin group are allowed to use sudo
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> gadak  i just said that, live session and change it from there
[00:17] <drake1> guess what. my wireless problems was due to limited signal strength. now it works perfect.
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[00:17] <moegialsdfj> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[00:17] <pedja> you are now member of ONLY that group that you created not admin group anymore
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> moegialsdfj
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> moegialsdfj  wrong channel
[00:17] <bj_penn> im trying to set up networking in ubuntu. I set up the /etc/network/interfaces to take an IP of the subnet <IP_ADDRESS> on mask <IP_ADDRESS>, but i cant ping any other 192.168.44.*, or ping this server from any servers in the same network
[00:17] <gadak> so what should i do
[00:17] <webnet> gadakoooo. yeah livedisc is only fix...
[00:18] <gadak> liveCD?
[00:18] <pedja> boot from live CD
[00:18] <webnet> unlesss... Gadak...
[00:18] <pedja> mount your linux partition
[00:18] <pedja> edit /etc/group
[00:18] <pedja> put yourself in admin group again
[00:19] <MonkeyDust> gadak  it's /etc/sudoers
[00:19] <gadak> my ubuntu is on Virtual Machine
[00:19] <pedja> yes Live CD like desktop install
[00:19] <webnet> nvm my idea wouldnt work. lol. duh
[00:19] <webnet> ok gadak you still have the iso right?
[00:19] <gadak> ya
[00:19] <maum> Is there a good way to check ubuntu system infomation on Desktop background?
[00:19] <pedja> gadak: wel boot your VM of a live cd
[00:19] <webnet> ok is the VM on virtual box or vmware
[00:20] <gadak> vm box
[00:20] <killswitchguy> gadak: i have also locked myself out of my admin rights..let me figure this out
[00:20] <gadak> LOL killswwitch
[00:20] <webnet> ok so when you turn on the boot machine, select to use the iso as a virtual drive and boot from it
[00:21] <webnet> gadak ^^
[00:21] <gadak> ok
[00:21] <webnet> then select to try it first
[00:21] <gadak> ok
[00:21] <webnet> and mount the hdd inside the live disc
[00:21] <gadak> ok
[00:22] <webnet> woah Guest86826 why are you running irc in root?!
[00:23] <killswitchguy> gadak: im back as su. try this tut
[00:23] <killswitchguy> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-root-password-default-password/
[00:23] <webnet> whoami why do you run irc as root?!
[00:23] <synthetiq> I have a centos 4 isintall on my harddisck, but ubuntu 11 is not detecting it, what should I do? I want ubutnu 11 to be the primary with that non detected centos4 to be on there still - will proceeding with the custom install use the unused disk space for the new partition?
[00:23] <webnet> synthetiq: it should... if you tell it to.
[00:24] <synthetiq> its not giving me the option when sleecting the drive
[00:25] <wayne87ae> ##hardware
[00:25] <webnet> synthetiq: does it allow you to manually select partitions?
[00:26] <webnet> synthetiq: it should give you a choice to either use whole disc or install alongside other os
[00:26] <dutchlee> webnet: you seem to know what you're talking about... any leads on some must read irc info?
[00:27] <dutchlee> webnet: pretty new to irc... for example how did you know someone was running xchat in sudo mode?
[00:27] <synthetiq> webnet its NOT detecting the other os
[00:28] <dutchlee> webnet: also, why would that matter?
[00:28] <synthetiq> there is /dev/sda1 which has grub, and /dev/sda2 which has the data
[00:28] <synthetiq> also running the cd live i can mount /dev/sda1 but not /dev/sda2
[00:29] <michaeljwjr> Ok so I am trying to get my androidvnc to connect to my desktop, but I keep getting conncetion refused. The guide I'm using is for ubuntu 8.10, is there a more uptodate guide ?
[00:29] <gadak> webnet im in /etc/
[00:30] <gadak> where should the change be made
[00:30] <webnet> gadak, it shoul have a folder called groups. yes?
[00:30] <gadak> yes
[00:31] <gadak> its not folder its a file
[00:31] <webnet> go in there gadak tell me the list of files.
[00:31] <webnet> ok thats sounds more like it. lol
[00:31] <bj_penn> im trying to set up networking in ubuntu. I set up the /etc/network/interfaces to take an IP of the subnet <IP_ADDRESS> on mask <IP_ADDRESS>, but i cant ping any other 192.168.44.*, or ping this server from any servers in the same network
[00:32] <webnet> are you in a terminal or nautilus gadak
[00:32] <gadak> theres lots of stuff writen ther
[00:32] <gadak> eg. root:x:0:
[00:32] <gadak> and so on
[00:32] <gadak> sudo:x:27:
[00:33] <webnet> dutchlee when a user signs on to irc it gives a notification and it says something like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:33] <webnet> dutchlee: i can see he ran as root because the word user was root
[00:33] <gadak> kashyap:x:1000:
[00:34] <dutchlee> webnet: thanks... guess ill be reading tonight
[00:34] <webnet> dutchlee: if you want a good how to about irc check this out
[00:34] <webnet> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[00:35] <gadak> Webnet : should i place user name in front of sudo:x:27:
[00:38] <webnet> gadak, i believe that you place your username after if im not mistaken
[00:39] <webnet> Anyone want to second me on that?
[00:39] <webnet> gadak: for example sudo:x:27:youruser
[00:40] <gadak> webnet: its a read only file
[00:41] <gadak> webnet I ve made the change lets c if it works
[00:42] <webnet> oh are you in vim-nox or nano? gadak?
[00:42] <Commodore1702> Hey, I'm having trouble with my sound, Ubuntu can't identify my sound card properly.
[00:42] <gadak> vm box!
[00:42] <wwb> http://linux520.com/
[00:42] <gadak> i went sudo and changed it
[00:42] <webnet> i mean to edit the file?
[00:44] <gadak> webnet : THANKS ALOT n others TOO
[00:44] <gadak> im SUper MAN Again
[00:44] <gadak> hehe
[00:44] <webnet> so it worked :)
[00:45] <_cb> Where can I find what comes with Ubuntu 11.0 (Ubuntu.com used to list it but current page is mostly a sales pitch for their services)
[00:45] <_cb> Ubuntu 11.0 server that is
[00:45] <blabface> hi
[00:45] <blabface> why does rkhunter require exim?
[00:45] <gadak> ya it did
[00:45] <blabface> I'm paranoid
[00:45] <webnet> _cb you mean packages and stuff?
[00:45] <gadak> you guys are genious
[00:45] <webnet> gadak. good im glad :)
[00:46] <blabface> me's genious too
[00:46] <_cb> webnet what applications come with it. Used to be Apache, MySql, etc,etc.
[00:46] <gadak> webnet: are you an engineer>? what work you do
[00:47] <neersighted> wha!
[00:47] <neersighted> oh lol derp "engi(neer)"
[00:47]  * neersighted slaps irssi
[00:47] <webnet> Commodore1702 proprietary driver perhaps? is it a brand new install?
[00:48] <Commodore1702> webnet: Its a fresh install on an old HP OmniBook 4150
[00:48] <_cb> Actually what I am really interested in is if finally there is something like AD in ubuntu (I know that kerberos can be integrated with ldap but, at least for me, it is hard to do)
[00:48] <Commodore1702> webnet: I'm fairly certain its a NeoMagic, but it's also sound blaster compatible
[00:48] <blabface> who's got rkhunter installed?  Why does that thing install exim?
[00:49] <gadak> its good to know you
[00:49] <kimp> webnet, just reinstalled Ubuntu exactly as before and now drop immediately to GRUB rescue.  That's it for me, I'm afraid.  I might procure another laptop down the track, but this one will needs to remain Win 7
[00:49] <KingPin> ummm what...?
[00:49] <gadak> this community is colorful bcz of you guys
[00:49] <KingPin> it didnt install exim
[00:49] <gadak> really appreciate
[00:49] <blabface> kimp: which verfsion?
[00:49] <webnet> Commodore1702 uh oh, sound blaster is sort of a pain with linux...
[00:50] <blabface> kimp: hrm...
[00:50] <webnet> gadak no problem :)
[00:50] <kimp> blabface, 10.11
[00:50] <kimp> sorry, 11.10
[00:50] <blabface> The following extra packages will be installed: exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light
[00:50] <blabface> kimp: try a more stable version
[00:50] <Commodore1702> webnet: but its not a SB, just compatible, I am fairly certain its a NeoMagic.
[00:50] <webnet> ok that gives me a bit of hope :)
[00:50] <blabface> KingPin: ^^
[00:51] <kimp> thanks blabface, I might give that a shot
[00:51] <blabface> kimp: taker' easy
[00:51] <KingPin> blabface,  spinning up a clean ubuntu vm
[00:51] <webnet> kimp: ummmmm... try formatting the disc?
[00:51] <KingPin> will test in just a few
[00:51] <webnet> its possible that something got screwed up there? :/
[00:52] <kimp> thanks webnet, I'll give it some thought
[00:52] <blabface> KingPin: ty
[00:52] <Moepigsjfhru> Hello
[00:52] <KingPin> np
[00:52] <Moepigsjfhru> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[00:52] <webnet> kimp. ok. :)
[00:54] <StepNjump> Hi, is there a way to decrypt .encryptfs from the terminal using just my password that I used to use to log on to ubuntu (not the passphrase)
[00:54] <KingPin> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[00:54] <KingPin>   libreadline5{a} libruby1.8{a} postfix{a} rkhunter ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} unhide.rb{a}
[00:54] <KingPin> blabface,  ^^^
[00:55] <webnet> StepNjump. Not entirely sure. that is sort of the point of encryptfs :D
[00:55] <Spankbot> most lnx releases are every 6 months.  Any reason why they don't wait at least 2 years to get something more solid and tested?  Some of the releases reminds me of Windows 98 mistakes...  or just tell me, is the volume of releases over a Linux Distro war?
[00:56] <KingPin> 2 years is too long for the average user.
[00:56] <StepNjump> yes I figured webnet.. thanks
[00:56] <webnet> Spankbot: I never use the latest release. i always stay 2 versions behind
[00:56] <blabface> KingPin: do you have exim already?
[00:56] <webnet> StepNjump :P sorry i had to do it :P
[00:57] <djdduty> what download do I use for ubuntu server from a usb drive?
[00:57] <webnet> lol
[00:57] <blabface> KingPin: I see it installs postfix
[00:57] <blabface> so it wants to mail
[00:57] <webnet> djdduty you mean to boot it from usb?
[00:57] <StepNjump> no but I thought maybe I could decrypt using my logon and password ...
[00:57] <KingPin> blabface,  well it does send mail if you ask it to
[00:57] <djdduty> webnet: yes
[00:57] <Spankbot> webnet kingpin  ah, pressure over quality.
[00:57] <KingPin> I get daily emails letting me know of anything suspicious it finds
[00:57] <djdduty> a flash drive
[00:57] <blabface> KingPin: ic, but does it send out 100's of other spam emals?
[00:58] <KingPin> negative
[00:58] <blabface> ty
[00:58] <webnet> djdduty: you can download the standard iso and use software called unetb ootin
[00:58] <KingPin> rkhunter is a very old and known name
[00:58] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: some users want new features, also they do fix bugs just that new ones appear (every OS has these) and they want more users
[00:58] <KingPin> I have never hard of it spamming anything or anyone
[00:58] <djdduty> ok, thanks webnet
[00:59] <djdduty> I did it before without any special program
[00:59] <webnet> djdduty: yep. let me link you a youtube vid with basic instructions for it
[00:59] <KingPin> 6 month release is a very good way to keep interest in an opensource project.
[00:59] <KingPin> especially where users aarent tied to the project via paid licensing
[01:00] <webnet> djdduty: yeah they used to make an image for usb, but now they have made it so that with slight mods you can use a usb with the standard iso, so they dont make a usb specific version anymore
[01:00] <webnet> r u currently on Win or Lin?
[01:01] <djdduty> webnet: I would like to keep my flash drive usable afterwards though
[01:01] <djdduty> windows 7
[01:01] <Spankbot> aeon-ltd >> Here is my concern, I'm a MS developer but have been running LNX Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint.. currently Mint as my host and running VMs of my Windows environment.  I cant get into great detail about my work, but I needed the ability to snapshot and revert my Win environments.  But then comes the names distros with Unity and Gnome3 all having "Amateur Hour" issues with UI and security.
[01:01] <webnet> yeah, you can simply delete all the files off of the drive after you install djdduty
[01:02] <djdduty> ok
[01:02] <djdduty> well I will do that then
[01:02] <djdduty> is 11.10 for tablets? someone just told me that
[01:02] <webnet> ok let me send you a link really quick
[01:02] <OldOneEye> anyone know how to uninstall xwin
[01:03] <webnet> djdduty: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/563/unetbootin-windows-563.exe/download
[01:03] <webnet> djdduty: that is win installer for unetbootin
[01:03] <webnet> and you have to back your flashdrive up before you do it btw
[01:04] <webnet> it may erase wht you have on there already
[01:05] <webnet> djdduty: no its not ONLY for tablets. People are saying that because unity was used in 10.04 and 10.10 netbook/tablet edition, but now unity aka resource sucking bloatware is the main GUI for ubuntu now
[01:05] <OldOneEye> anyone know how to uninstall xwin
[01:06] <webnet> OldOneEye have you tried: sudo apt-get uninstall xwin
[01:06] <OldOneEye> i want just consol
[01:06] <webnet> you want to remove your x server completely?
[01:06] <webnet> or do you want the option for a giu still?
[01:07] <OldOneEye> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[01:07] <OldOneEye> b0b@server:~$
[01:07] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: if you really want ubuntu to be like that i wouldn't use desktop, if you've got the time start from server and control everything yourself or look for another distro
[01:07] <OldOneEye> i want to uninstall the gui
[01:07] <webnet> Oh ok.
[01:07] <djdduty> webnet: what about pendrive linux"?
[01:07] <OldOneEye> it loads on startup and wen i type startx
[01:08] <webnet> djdduty: you could use that as well. either will work. if you like pen drive linux better use it. That is the joy of FOSS
[01:09] <webnet> :D
[01:10] <Spankbot> aeon-ltd >> Understood.  I don't guide, architect, code, test any linux distro so who am I to say how often they release versions.  I'm becoming a huge proponent of the progression of LNX desktops over the last 10yrs, but I'm afraid it's following the same path of closed source solutions.
[01:10] <webnet> OldOneEye im sorry uninstall is for automake duh. lol
[01:10] <webnet> OldOneEye: try sudo apt-get remove xwin
[01:11] <webnet> OldOneEye: try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop as well
[01:12] <OldOneEye> Reading state information... Done
[01:12] <OldOneEye> E: Unable to locate package xwin
[01:12] <webnet> try:  sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <OldOneEye> Package ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[01:12] <OldOneEye> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:12] <OldOneEye> b0b@server:~$
[01:13] <OldOneEye> i just want the console only no gui
[01:13] <blabface> KingPin: installed and ran
[01:14] <KingPin> cool
[01:14] <xkws49er> best book for beginners?
[01:14] <blabface> https://gist.github.com/e5bae5425afdb6470b9d
[01:14] <alien2050> Is there a keypad -> mouse emulator that exists for ubuntu ?
[01:14] <blabface> xkws49er: the good book (amen)
[01:15] <blabface> KingPin: ^^ :D
[01:16] <KingPin> the hiddens are fine
[01:16] <webnet> OldOneEye: if you truly want to remove ALL gui components i can give you the command for that, but tread carefully, it will remove ALL the dependancies for gui software as well you would only be able to run Command line tools. ity COULD in theory make the system unstable as well.
[01:17] <blabface> KingPin: ok
[01:17] <blabface> you got them on your fresh install?
[01:17] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: i would say that only applies to those who were up and coming 5 years ago, small dedicated - those who adhere to philosophies - haven't really changed; shameless plug: i've used arch for the last 2 years roughly nothing has changed other than packages updated and more efficient methods being used
[01:17] <KingPin> the hiddens? yes
[01:18] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: *small dedicated distros
[01:18] <alien2050> found it
[01:18] <blabface> KingPin: thanks for help, night
[01:18] <jasmin> alien2050, hii
[01:18] <KingPin> nphase, night
[01:19] <alien2050> hey
[01:19] <fpu> hello again :)
[01:19] <jasmin> hii friend
[01:19] <fpu> does anyone here know insides of gthumb? I have no idea where it keeps it's preferences...
[01:19] <fpu> I delete .config/gthumb, my settings still are there
[01:19] <fpu> the same with .gconf/apps/gthumb
[01:19] <jasmin> how do i use iperf tool pls any one help me
[01:20] <alien2050> ne1 knows how can I call the "system settings" gui from the cli in gnome shell ?
[01:22] <webnet> alien2050 u mean the gnome control panel?
[01:22] <magn3ts> jesus christ its impossible to find pkg downloads on launchpad
[01:22] <magn3ts> that place leads me in circles everytime I go ther
[01:23] <ayrton_> hey guys how do i transfer data with two ubntu machines and an ethernet cable
[01:23] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[01:23] <alien2050> kinda... but it's called system settings (right click on right icon with your username on it) in gnome 3
[01:24] <alien2050> could be same bin though not sure
[01:24] <Xase> Intel 945 GM, 11.10/Oneiric Ocelot... Stuff is REALLY choppy... after looking around something about direct rendering being turned off seems to be the culprit... any clues, or fixes I'm not aware of.
[01:25] <webnet> ok. brb
[01:25] <chelz> i'm trying to setup my ubuntu laptop to print to a shared usb printer that's attached to a mac on the local network and there's a user/name and password for the printer. when i go to the New Printer gui dialog and put in the IP next to "host" it doesn't find anything
[01:25] <alien2050> found it
[01:25] <chelz> is there some magic URI i can put in that'll make it/cups know the IP and that it needs a password and stuff?
[01:26] <alien2050> it's "gnome-control-center" if anyone is interested
[01:27] <Ibis> !6pac
[01:28] <alien2050> and the plus key is the right click... I love linux :)
[01:28] <Crash_O-D>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock -> Enabling NumLock during startup and before login ->  edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default. For older versions of Ubuntu edit /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default  though files dont exist
[01:32] <magn3ts> What should the default set of include directories be for ubuntu?
[01:33] <Xase> You mean your path magn3ts ?
[01:33] <Xase> Not sure ifthat's what you mean
[01:35] <dutchlee> webnet: hey thanks was afk for a while there
[01:35] <Xase> magn3ts: what do you mean by Includes?
[01:36] <buckshot> Can I get some help with my wireless settings?
[01:36] <Xase> buckshot: I may be able to help :D what's the problem?
[01:36] <magn3ts> How can I set a recursive lookup in gcc for includes?
[01:37] <buckshot> Xase: No matter what I try I cant seem to get my laptop to pick up my wifi
[01:37] <pnorman_> My ubuntu box is hanging on such a low level, I wonder if it's unrelated to the drivers. (heavy write IO causes hangs when going through my sata card)
[01:37] <Xase> buckshot: is you card detected properly? and does it see any other Wifi signals?
[01:38] <Xase> buckshot: also have you tried the Additional Drivers menu under More Apps assuming you're using Unity?
[01:38] <buckshot> I have. The only thing missing was my graphics card. ATI Radeon..
[01:39] <Crash_O-D> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock -> Enabling NumLock during startup and before login ->  edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default. For older versions of Ubuntu edit /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default  though files dont exist. please help.
[01:39] <buckshot> It says "device not managed" under my wireless tab.
[01:39] <Xase> Hmm
[01:39] <Xase> Can you run 'lspci'
[01:40] <buckshot> will do
[01:40] <Xase> and tell me what it says for your wireless?
[01:40] <buckshot> 09:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[01:42] <Xase> Crash_O-D:  if you're using a recent ubuntu  i.e. 11.04 and beyond, I'd imagine not, since ubuntu now uses LightDM
[01:43] <buckshot> need anything else? or was that the right info
[01:43] <Xase> buckshot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285 <<< Not very helpful and may still be required even though outdated.
[01:43] <Xase> that was right
[01:43] <Xase> You may not have the correct module for it.
[01:44] <Xase> buckshot: replace the maverick or lucid with whatever you have
[01:45] <Xase> I'd say try that instruction and see if that works, because the driver for your wireless card may still need to be backported =/ though I don't see why it didn't work out of the box.
[01:46] <buckshot> alright
[01:46] <buckshot> lemme see what i can do
[01:46] <Crash_O-D> Xase: thankx thats a big help. found greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on rebooting to see if worked thanks
[01:46] <buckshot> so if im on 11.10 right now, what would i do to get that installing?
[01:47] <Xase> oneiric ;) buckshot but you may also want to try this first http://www.lamnk.com/blog/computer/fixing-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot-wireless-problem-with-atheros-ar9285-and-ralink-rt3090/
[01:47] <Xase> Just found that
[01:47] <FloodBot1> Xase: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <Xase> Man I hate that Floodbot, it's a little hyperactive and oversensitive.
[01:48] <Xase> buckshot: also that blog doesn't mention it... but reboot after adding that line to the blacklist
[01:49] <djdduty> hello
[01:49] <bolo56> hail ! people of the channel !!
[01:49] <djdduty> I wanted to dual boot ubuntu server, but my only option seemed to be to completely re-format the harddrive?
[01:49] <djdduty> also, it seems to need internet even though the iso is on the disk?
[01:50] <pnorman_> djdduty: Do you mean the only option within the installer is to format the drive?
[01:50] <djdduty> yeah...
[01:50] <buckshot> Xase: I went ahead and followed the instructions, gonna reboot now.
[01:50] <djdduty> I want to keep my windows 7 os and files on here
[01:51] <webnet> djdduty, it doesnt NEED internet it just wants it so in can install updates if you tell it to
[01:51] <djdduty> webnet: it wouldn't let me proceed
[01:51] <Xase> Why would you want a dualboot machine if you plan to run Ubuntu Server djdduty ?
[01:51] <webnet> really? thats new O.o
[01:51] <Xase> Just curious...
[01:51] <Xase> Not discouraging you.
[01:51] <djdduty> Xase: only installing ubuntu server on this comp for an experiment
[01:52] <Xase> Ah okay.
[01:52] <djdduty> I am actually going to be using it on a computer I am building when the parts get here
[01:52] <Xase> djdduty: are you using an actual CD or flashmedia?
[01:52] <webnet> you know you can use virtual box to experiment inside of windows right?
[01:52] <pnorman_> I believe you can just wipe one partition. However, if you're just doing some limited testing ubuntu server, consider a virtual machine as an easier option
[01:52] <djdduty> hmmm
[01:52] <djdduty> true
[01:52] <Xase> I second and third the VM option djdduty
[01:52] <Xase> Much easier...
[01:53] <djdduty> will do then
[01:53] <djdduty> I orgot about it completely actually
[01:53] <Xase> While it will suffer a small performance hit, you should be able to get whatever you need to try done in there.
[01:53] <djdduty> best free vm for windows?
[01:53] <pnorman_> djdduty: I've used VirtualBox
[01:53] <Xase> Virtual Box for the win ;)
[01:53] <djdduty> also, where is this "400mgb ubuntu server edition" at?
[01:53] <djdduty> It mentioned 400mgb small in the installer
[01:53] <Xase> VM Ware is too complicated/proprietary.
[01:53] <pnorman_> note that some of the mouse capture stuff may be a bit odd with server since it has no GUI
[01:54] <webnet> i second virtual box
[01:54] <marsha> is there file recovery software for ubuntu that lets you search for a specific file to recover?
[01:54] <Xase> pnorman_:  he could get around that with 'sudo apt-get install gpm' I think.
[01:54] <Xase> Terminal mouse ;)
[01:54] <pnorman_> !info gpm
[01:54] <webnet> thas really the best MS virtual machine is ok and free, but i like Virtual box better
[01:54] <djdduty> pnorman_: ubuntu server has no gui?
[01:54] <marsha> The only recovery tool i know is photorec but it does nothave that option
[01:54] <Xase> It's a mouse which works on terminal pnorman_ :D
[01:54] <pnorman_> djdduty: by default it doesn't. you could install one, but servers don't generally have a GUI
[01:55] <djdduty> I would want one...
[01:55] <Xase> djdduty: if you absolutely require one for your server...  :D
[01:57] <Xase> SYeah it is.
[01:57] <Xase> I use it on my shell :D
[01:57] <Xase> Or my text only builds.
[01:58] <Xase> I hope that fixed worked for buckshot.
[01:58] <Xase> I am going to watch a movie.
[01:58] <webnet> djdduty lxde looks good and is light. but u usually dont want a gui on a server cause it uses valuable resources...
[01:58] <Xase> I hate when people don't come back to report success.
[01:58] <Xase> webnet:  he's gone.
[01:59] <Xase> The best GUI for server... is probably that web interface for ubuntu I saw awhile back
[01:59] <Xase> It looked pretty full featured.
[01:59] <Xase> Webmin or whatever it's called
[01:59] <buckshot> Xase: Still no good.
[01:59] <Xase> buckshot: did it work?
[01:59] <Xase> Neither of them?
[01:59] <webnet> yeah.
[01:59] <buckshot> Well the second didnt.
[02:00] <buckshot> Didnt try the first. :P
[02:00] <Xase> Try the first... you may need the driver.
[02:00] <Xase> :D
[02:00] <buckshot> Resend that link to me please?
[02:00] <Xase> Just replace maverick or lucid with Oneiric
[02:00] <itaylor57> !webmin
[02:00] <Xase> Sure
[02:00] <Xase> buckshot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285 <<< Not very helpful and may still be required even though outdated.
[02:00] <buckshot> Oh, and something else, The laptop doesnt shut it self off, and booting is really long.
[02:00] <buckshot> Im not sure what to make of it...
[02:01] <webnet> i actually like ispconfig personally, is sort of high maintenence tho. lol. it uses specific tools with no flexibility, BUT it does its job for my small hostin company
[02:01] <webnet> :D
[02:02] <Xase> !ebox
[02:02] <Xase> Zentyal then is what someone should point out to djdduty when he returns
[02:02] <pnorman_> well, i guess it's time to crash my ubuntu box.
[02:02] <Xase> buckshot is the laptop REALLY new?
[02:04] <buckshot> Not terribly. Its a Sony Vaio, bought last year.
[02:05] <webnet> ubottu: OHHH! i wondered what happened to ebox! i used them a while back as a beta test when my hosting company was 1 little server doing it all :D but then the Dev went cold and i got bummed out. *checking out zental*
[02:05] <buckshot> When booting, it says it cant find a disk. I let it find that, then it cant find network which I understand that. but when i turn it off it just sits with that ubuntu screen...
[02:05] <webnet> wow im an idiot, i didnt realize ubottu was a bot :P
[02:08] <bolo56> if i type in the command prompt dpkg -l and the list is too long
[02:08] <bolo56> how do i tell it to pause the long list ?
[02:08] <buckshot> Xase?
[02:15] <webnet> OK im back :D just thought i would let you all know :P
[02:16] <somsip> bolo56: dpkg -l | more
[02:16] <bjorkintosh> why would my desktop suddenly forget its inet4 settings?
[02:18] <aj00200> Is there a way to regenerate the list of apps that unity searches for? It seems that this list has been lost or currupted or possibly broken during a reinstall where I kept my home directory on a different partition.
[02:20] <buckshot> Any body know what to do about this"Device Not Managed" on my wireless network?
[02:21] <pnorman_> I'm looking to partition a drive, but all the advice I find assumes you have a GUI or you're using the installer CD. In my case, it's neither.
[02:21] <escott> pnorman_, then use parted
[02:22] <webnet> pnorman_: try burining a live disc of parted magic
[02:24] <pnorman_> escott: Any suggestions for something with an interface similar to partman?
[02:24] <br0adcast> Hello guys
[02:25] <br0adcast> im looking for a little help, is there anybody here able to advise me on a message I have received
[02:25] <br0adcast> its regarding compiling the kernel
[02:25] <br0adcast> any help would be appriciated, thanks :)
[02:26] <escott> pnorman, not familiar with partman but you could probably find a cd with it
[02:26] <escott> br0adcast, maybe, but we won't know unless you tell us the message
[02:26] <pnorman> escott: It's the tool used on the ubuntu server install CD, but they do not recommend using it outside of a debian install CD
[02:27] <br0adcast> /home/br0adcast/compat-wireless-2011-12-08/compat-wireless-2010-10-16/config.mk:196: "WARNING: CONFIG_CFG80211_WEXT will be deactivated or not working because kernel was compiled with CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=n. Tools using wext interface like iwconfig will not work. To activate it build your kernel e.g. with CONFIG_LIBIPW=m."
[02:27] <br0adcast> ./scripts/gen-compat-autoconf.sh config.mk > include/linux/compat_autoconf.h
[02:27] <br0adcast> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.35-31-generic/build M=/home/br0adcast/compat-wireless-2011-12-08/compat-wireless-2010-10-16 modules
[02:27] <br0adcast> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.35-31-generic/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[02:27] <br0adcast> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[02:27] <pnorman> I suppose since I'm dealing with a blank drive, I don't really have to worry about screwing up
[02:27] <br0adcast> that is the error escott :)
[02:27] <FloodBot1> br0adcast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <br0adcast> yes mr floodbot :)
[02:28] <br0adcast> how did I know that was going to happen :)
[02:28] <br0adcast> i am trying to install the compat wireless drivers escott
[02:28] <br0adcast> im using 10.04
[02:29] <br0adcast> I have upgraded the kernel because i want trim support, but when i update kernel, I get this message when i try to reinstall and repatch the drivers
[02:29] <br0adcast> due to the message, I would like to know what i means by compiling with CONFIG_LIBIPW=m
[02:29] <zromayn> hello there, can anybody show me any document showing how to export an encrypted directory? I encrypted my home dir. If I try exporting it, i get "exportfs: /home/usuer1/backup does not support NFS export"
[02:30] <psusi> br0adcast, why don't you just install 11.10?
[02:30] <br0adcast> psusi, I have, well, 10.10 and upgraded from update manager to 11.10
[02:30] <br0adcast> but system hangs
[02:30] <br0adcast> and im too nub to be able to work out why hehe
[02:31] <psusi> br0adcast, just do a clean install of 11.10 ;)
[02:31] <br0adcast> and, if I learned how, fixing it would be another matter im sure
[02:31] <br0adcast> psusi, but it will be the same kernel right?
[02:31] <br0adcast> surely the same issue will arrise
[02:31] <psusi> same as what?
[02:31] <br0adcast> as updating to 11.10 from within 10.10
[02:31] <psusi> which issue?
[02:32] <br0adcast> the system hanging when i install compat wireless 2.6 and 2 patches
[02:32] <psusi> the freeze very well may be because of old stuff left from the upgrade... try the 11.10 live cd and if it works, then just do a clean install
[02:33] <br0adcast> it would be more ideal to install it fresh and try it, not really good for me to try live cd
[02:33] <psusi> well, try to walk before you run
[02:33] <br0adcast> hmmm
[02:33] <br0adcast> well, i cant really patch and change drivers etc on a live cd and be able to test it correctly
[02:33] <br0adcast> it is going to be more certain to try on an install
[02:33] <psusi> what do you need to patch for?
[02:34] <br0adcast> ive installed about 3 different distros 100+ times this week, so its no biggy anyways :)
[02:34] <psusi> hehe
[02:34] <br0adcast> the patch is to release my wifi card in monitor mode from being stuck to a perticular channel
[02:34] <Ryukoji> you guys ever use CrunchBang linux?
[02:34]  * FauxReal installed 48k rhel boxes, and is tired... ;)
[02:34] <escott> !crunchbang | Ryukoji
[02:35] <Ryukoji> no you dont understand escott
[02:35] <Ryukoji> im just saying if anyone has ever tried it
[02:35] <br0adcast> so, any ideas escott?
[02:36] <zromayn> hello there, can anybody show me any document showing how to export an encrypted directory? I encrypted my home dir. If I try exporting it, i get "exportfs: /home/usuer1/backup does not support NFS export"
[02:36] <escott> Ryukoji, and im giving you a channel you can ask people who have
[02:36] <aj00200> zromayn: are you trying to recover it?
[02:36] <escott> br0adcast, no that seems like a different build processs
[02:37] <psusi> zromayn, that kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
[02:37] <zromayn> aj00200: no, it's not for data recovery. I just want to be able to export it over NFS
[02:37] <zromayn> aj00200: unless, you really can't export an encrypted dir at all.
[02:38] <br0adcast> ok thank you anyways escott :)
[02:38] <aj00200> hmm, I'm not sure. There may be other ways to do what you want as well. Does it need to be NFS? For example, could a one time data transfer with scp work, or maybe sync with a free Ubuntu Cloud account?
[02:39] <pnorman_> parted is warning me about non-optimal alignment. How do I do it with the optimal alignment?
[02:39] <marsha> is it possible for nautilus to search for keywords within files?
[02:40] <psusi> pnorman, start parted with -a optimal?
[02:41] <pnorman_> psusi: still warning me
[02:41] <hatch> trying to connect to a windows vpn but all i'm getting is that it failed because it failed to start....ubuntu 11
[02:41] <psusi> pnorman, how are you specifying the partition position?
[02:42] <pnorman> psusi: 0 100%. seems to of worked with 0% 100%
[02:42] <somsip> marsha: not that I know of, but it's easy from the terminal http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-search-find-file-for-text-string/
[02:43] <marsha> somsip thanks
[02:48] <khoover> hey, anyone here who could help me w/ a touchpad problem?
[02:49] <kimp> webnet, I have just installed an earlier version (10.04.3) and it has fixed my woes - nice one...
[02:49] <br0adcast> whats up khoover
[02:49] <khoover> bro0adcast, seems like xorg's picking it up, but it's just not sending events
[02:49] <khoover> even evtest is getting nothing off of it.
[02:50] <semitones> I have 10.10. I know you're not supposed to, but what would happen if I changed my sources.lst to have "oneiric" and just apt-get updated?
[02:50] <kimp> time for lunch!
[02:50] <xangua> semitones: you don't wanna know ;)
[02:50] <xangua> or experience
[02:52] <br0adcast> semitones do you mean kernel wise? oneiric kernel works fine on 10.04
[02:52] <khoover> br0adcast, hit an o and the 0, what i said above
[02:52] <br0adcast> is it a hp laptop khaard
[02:52] <br0adcast> khoover,*
[02:53] <semitones> I wawnt to know :P
[02:53] <khoover> no, acer aspire 5742, ETPS/2 Elantech
[02:53] <airtonix> why would my keystrokes be normal plain everyday normal human normal english one second then FREAKOUT and suddenly! japanese everywhere in my terminal and none of my keystrokes are normal everyday human english?
[02:53] <semitones> br0adcast: not kernel-wise, just what would happen if I didn't update incrementally, but in one giant leap
[02:54] <br0adcast> ahh right hehe.. try it :P
[02:54] <semitones> :p br0adcast for SCIENCE!
[02:54] <br0adcast> of course
[02:54] <br0adcast> i have reinstalled about 100 times this week, easy now heh
[02:54] <N7OKL> Dual boot issue...completely stopped booting from linux, but will boot from a windows disk....help please
[02:55] <khoover> airtonix, あなたは、日本人に問題がありますか?
[02:55] <airtonix> one second : i was typing in english through ssh to my remote ubuntu natty server from my ubuntu natty desktop , the next : characters i type are japanese
[02:55] <airtonix> logging out and back in via ssh terminal changes nothing
[02:56] <WanderingEnder> Hey, does 11.10 minimal's xubuntu installation come with VMWare Client Tools by default?
[02:56] <airtonix> characters i type on a terminal in my desktop are normal english
[02:56] <somsip> WanderingEnder: from experience, minimal install is JEEP
[02:56] <khoover> br0adcast, acer aspire 5742, ETPS/2 Elantech touchpad*
[02:57] <br0adcast> hmm, im not sure i can help you bro, sorry about that
[02:57] <n00bArmy> hey
[02:57] <br0adcast> only really know synaptecs
[02:57] <airtonix> sweeeeeet, now i can't configure anything
[02:58] <br0adcast> escott, sorry to ask you again, but do you have any idea where the argument CONFIG_LIBIPW=m would actually be used when recompilling the kernel, I will research it fully and not at risk of losing anything, but currently, it means nothing to me :S
[02:59] <br0adcast> lol airtonix :)
[02:59] <br0adcast> its fun breaking stuff :)
[02:59] <airtonix> not really
[02:59] <br0adcast> well i enjoy it
[02:59] <N7OKL> help please....dual boot XP/10.04lts...worked fine for several months...now will not boot from any linux media (even live...just a DMA error loop) but boots fine from any windows media...help please
[02:59] <airtonix> i didn't actually do anything to cause this as far as i know
[02:59] <webnet> kimp: glad to heaar. i suspect it was the updated kernel that was giving you trouble. Im not sure what they did or added or took out...
[03:00] <khoover> hey br0adcast, this fix look legit? http://www.daniweb.com/hardware-and-software/linux-and-unix/linux-kernel-and-hardware-setup/threads/206118
[03:00] <|Long|> hi guys, what is the cmd to open a dir?
[03:00] <airtonix> cd
[03:01] <|Long|> david@lcnn:/dev$ cd sdl1
[03:01] <|Long|> -bash: cd: sdl1: Not a directory
[03:01] <khoover> br0adcast, and nvm, file doesn't exist. was working fine before my computer frozen, had to kill the power while some updates were still waiting on a reset.
[03:01] <webnet> |Long| cd /[path]/[to]/[dir]
[03:01] <gizmobay> When I do a "ls" in a directory some of the files are red. Does anyone know why?
[03:01] <br0adcast> i really couldnt say khoover, been playing with lots of so called cosher fixes recently
[03:01] <br0adcast> most of them didnt work
[03:01] <tucemiux_l> someone please yelp!  I just upgraded and now I can't use my video card: Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid.
[03:02] <khoover> br0adcast, thing is, was working absolutely fine before, did everything i wanted.
[03:02] <khoover> i mean, what could've happened in one hard shut-down that destroys all functionality?
[03:07] <khoover> br0adcast, should my xorg.0.d/synaptics.config file be empty save for touchpad catchall?
[03:07] <khoover> xorg.conf.d*
[03:08] <bsmith093> can i safely delete the tmp folder
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> bsmith093, you can empty it
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> but you should keep it nevertheless.
[03:08] <bsmith093> how
[03:08] <khoover> bsmith093, sudo rm -r / should do the trick. :P
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> c'mon khoover
[03:09] <bsmith093> no wait that eill dump everyhting
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> bsmith093, what do you need to do that for?
[03:09] <bsmith093> im out of space literally
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> your system might be configured to do it automatically anyway.
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> ah.
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> remove the pr0n from your machine.
[03:09] <bsmith093> i need to changesome workspaces from tmp to something on the home parttivo
[03:09] <khoover> bjorkintosh, sorry, mildly upset at my system destroying the xorg synaptics.conf file
[03:10] <khoover> only a friggin touchpad catchall in there
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> khoover, a recent upgrade has nuked my nic.
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> i'm not happy either.
[03:10] <bsmith093> sudo rm -r /tmp?
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> bsmith093, rm -rf /tmp/*
[03:10] <khoover> -f?
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> yeah.
[03:10] <bsmith093> ru absolutely sure
[03:10] <philip> there is *no* need to put the f
[03:11] <bsmith093> screw it im opening nautilus in root and going tht way
[03:11] <bjorkintosh> so why does the 'f' exist.
[03:11] <philip> it's unlikely you will even get prompted for anything when typing sudo rm -r /tmp/*
[03:12] <philip> but the -f exists to force "yes" to prompts afaik, and ignore files that don't exist according to man
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> philip, how do you know rm is not aliased to rm -i ?
[03:12]  * khoover goes back to the rm docs...
[03:12] <WzTian> if it's aliased to rm -i, just use rm -I
[03:12] <philip> if you're really woried about that you can type alias
[03:12] <philip> to check
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> or.
[03:13] <bjorkintosh> avoid a discussion
[03:13] <bjorkintosh> and rm -rf /tmp/*
[03:13] <ubuntu1> Hi, is there a way to find out where the grub stage 2 files are located? On which partition?
[03:14] <philip> whatever, sounds like a way to get hosed, no need to force things, rm -f is bad, so is kill -9
[03:14] <bjorkintosh> kill -9 works.
[03:14] <philip> plenty of internet webpages, linux books, and flamewars in here (i am sure) dedicated to this
[03:14] <pnorman_> kill -9 works, but it shouldn't be your first choice
[03:15] <pbink> hey folks...does the Auto-mount feature actually work in the latest vboxadditions version?  if so, is it supposed to somehow determine the guest OS and make it available automatically?
[03:15] <pbink> for shared folders i mean
[03:16] <almoxarife> pbink: so far not for me
[03:16] <pnorman_> pbink: it worked for me. ubuntu 11.04 guest, windows 7 host. Can't remember what I did exactly, and I have a dedicated ubuntu box now
[03:17] <ubuntu1> I need to delete a partition and I would want to ensure that grub files are not located there
[03:17] <pbink> almoxarife:  are you running 10.04?
[03:17] <almoxarife> pbink: nope, 11.10
[03:17] <pbink> i've got xp host 10.04 guest...no luck here
[03:18] <khoover> Stepnjump, not entirely sure on this one, but, iirc, partitions are registered as separate drives in nautilus, righ?
[03:18] <pbink> and what's strange is when i try to use 'mount -t vboxsf SharedFolderName /mnt/shared' mount yells at me like i input incorrect params
[03:18] <pbink> with no descriptive error
[03:18] <almoxarife> pbink: I think there is a bug in the latest virtualbox, it just worked before, now it does not
[03:18] <pbink> hmm
[03:19] <pbink> any clue why my manual mount command wouldn't work?
[03:19] <Stepnjump> khoover: yes I think so
[03:19] <khoover> Stepnjump, well, just check for whichever drive /grub's in, and try not to nuke it
[03:21] <meshuggah> hello, i try to install but it ask me about no root file system defined?
[03:21] <Stepnjump> there has to be a way to know for sure khoover
[03:22] <khoover> Stepnjump, there likely is; all i can say is, if a partition's marked as boot-able, don't touch it. why put grub in a non-boot partition?
[03:22] <escott> meshuggah, if you picked the manual partitioning you need to make a partition with a mount point of / it should be at least 10-20gigs
[03:23] <ovhan> when i installed ubuntu os 11.10 and it asked me what i wanted it for (i.e. mail server, etc) i hit enter accidentally , how can i find that list again after its installed and choose what i want or do i have to reinstall it
[03:25] <wspardaw> s
[03:25] <frogonwheels> ovhan: There's a 'tasks' category of virtual package that I believe will do the trick
[03:25] <wspardaw> hi all
[03:25] <boourns> overdub, "sudo tasksel" i think
[03:26] <boourns> ovhan i mean
[03:26] <frogonwheels> thanks boourns :)
[03:26] <ovhan> ty, i just installed ubuntu, first time use
[03:29] <neuro_sys> http://media.slated.org/albums/userpics/10002/ubuntu.png
[03:29] <maum> how can I enter the root path
[03:29] <maum> ?
[03:30] <emmetea> i was trying to install gparted using "sudo apt-get install gparted" and i get and error about libparted0 being the wrong version
[03:30] <br0adcast> in nautilus gksudo nautilus then navigate to /
[03:30] <ovhan> yes tasksel looks about right ty
[03:30] <frogonwheels> nice trolling from neuro_sys - still funny but :)
[03:31] <ovhan> i dont get it ...
[03:31] <ovhan> oh
[03:31] <ovhan> nvm
[03:31] <emmetea> specifically  gparted: Depends: libparted0 (>= 2.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
[03:31] <garden92>  simple scan quit connecting to my scanner. help.
[03:31] <somsip> maum: cd /
[03:32] <wspardaw> k
[03:33] <maum> somsip, I am not sure it's not working . when I enter "sensors-detect" command, it said "You need to be root to run this script."
[03:33] <pnorman_> maum: sudo sensors-detect
[03:33] <somsip> maum: you asked the wrong question. you need "sudo sensors-detect"
[03:33] <somsip> s/wrong/ambiguous
[03:34] <i2c> yo guys is there anyway to make my mouse wheel scroll more lines throughout ubuntu?
[03:35] <maum> I could check the temperature but in conkyrc file it's not working
[03:35] <maum> something like this :    ${color6}Core 1: $color $alignr ${execi 10 sensors | grep 'Core 0' | grep -o '\+.*)'}
[03:35] <robin0800> maum: preface the command with sudo
[03:36] <somsip> i2c: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/27270/increasing-scroll-speed
[03:37] <pbink> anyone help me figure out why when i'm trying to use 'sudo mount -t SharedFolderName /media/windows' my mount command just gives me the Usage:... information?
[03:37] <ovhan> how do i find out how much my server is taking up ram
[03:37] <ovhan> is there a command
[03:37] <somsip> ovhan: free
[03:37] <i2c> wow I can't change it systemwide? I'm sorry, but for as great as linux is, I miss the little things from windows
[03:37] <ovhan> what somsip
[03:38] <somsip> ovhan: that is the command to show memory usage
[03:38] <ovhan> ah
[03:38] <ovhan> cool ty
[03:38] <ovhan> ya it worked ty
[03:38] <webnet> i2c i actually think you can... hold on
[03:38] <maum> I did like this :    ${color6}Core 1: $color $alignr ${execi 10 sudo sensors | grep 'Core 0' | grep -o '\+.*)'}
[03:38] <maum> but it's not working
[03:38] <ovhan> 309000 neat =D
[03:38] <ovhan> its using less then i thought it was gonna :D
[03:41] <wspardaw> f
[03:41] <emmetea> if it try to install the lib it says libparted0: Depends: libparted0debian1 (= 2.2-5ubuntu5) but 2.2-5ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[03:44] <emmetea> its the lts release so i figured things like that wouldnt be broken
[03:45] <webnet> i2c i cant find it.... it may not be there as i thought
[03:47] <almoxarife> emmetea: the ppa broke it
[03:49] <tepedibi13> hii
[03:51] <wsparda> help
[03:52] <almoxarife> the jpg is a keeper, nice wallpaper
[03:52] <Arcademan> wsparda, what is it you need?
[03:54] <emmetea> is there anyway i could just force gparted to install even though it says there are broken dependencies?
[03:54] <bzrk> hi there, does anyone know how to install ubuntu 11.10 without ubiquity? only cli?
[03:55] <somsip> bzrk: use the minimal install cd
[03:56] <bzrk> somsip: kthx
[03:56] <wsparda> hi all
[03:56] <antipragmatist> my at&t wireless modem works with windows7,
[03:56] <antipragmatist> but it disconnects from ubuntu 11.10
[03:56] <antipragmatist> is there a know problem?
[03:56] <somsip> emmetea: keep forcing individual upgrades until gparted stops complaining. It's worked for me in th past
[03:57] <emmetea> somsip: it keeps hiccuping when i try and force libparted0debian1
[03:57] <djdduty> hello ubuntu!
[03:57] <djdduty> I got ubuntu server installed
[03:57] <somsip> !libparted0debian1
[03:57] <djdduty> now...  If anyone would care to look over my scripts, they can be found here: http://ottilaptop.ottifantsir.operaunite.com/Warzone/
[04:01] <djdduty> LXDE any good?
[04:01] <djdduty> that is the one someone reccomended
[04:01] <WanderingEnder> somsip: you mean the one that says preface each line with someone's name so we know what the heck you're talking about?
[04:01] <WanderingEnder> !polls | djdduty
[04:02] <somsip> WanderingEnder: yeah - what's the ! for that again?
[04:02] <antipragmatist> WanderingEnder, perhaps, however, it is the general consensus among 11.10 users
[04:02] <WanderingEnder> somsip: I forget myself.
[04:02] <somsip> WanderingEnder: heh :)
[04:02] <WanderingEnder> antipragmatist: If you're bitching about Unity, get in line, but that isn't really a support request or supporting others. They decided to use it, so we either adapt or use something else. I'm liking xubuntu.
[04:03] <somsip> antipragmatist: I just posted a list of 21 alternative WMs for djdduty. Try one?
[04:03] <emmetea> somsip: if i try and upgrade libparted thats when it tells me  libparted0debian1 is the newest version
[04:04] <somsip> emmetea: what version og ubuntu? And you're trying to install parted or gparted?
[04:04] <emmetea> somsip: gparted, but install gparted breaks with libparted0 dependecies. i believe the version is the lts release
[04:04] <somsip> emmetea: erm...lsb-release for the release?
[04:05] <phenrique> hello, the update manager shows 40 updates but when i try to install show "Need installation of untrusted packages" and it is not possible continue....
[04:05] <somsip> emmetea:  or cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:05] <emmetea> somsip: returns with no LSB modules available
[04:06] <emmetea> 10.04.2 lts
[04:06] <emmetea> somsip: catting it worked
[04:06] <phenrique> what i can to do?
[04:06] <somsip> emmetea: and how are you install gparted?
[04:06] <somsip> emmetea: translate that?
[04:07] <emmetea> somsip: originally "sudo apt-get install gparted" however the same error happened with synaptic also
[04:07] <skilz> Hey im trying to play the classic minecraft in firefox, I have the icedtea6-plugin installed, I see the java applet load and it displays Minecraft quickly then leaves me at a blank screen
[04:07] <somsip> emmetea: so is it working now or not?
[04:07] <emmetea> somsip: trying cat /etc/lsb-release worked, but trying lsb_release said there were no modules
[04:08] <skilz> Do I need something else installed or what?
[04:08] <emmetea> somsip: negative, it is not working
[04:08] <OttifantSir> phenrique: I think the reason is that the repos has been updated, and the authentication file has somehow been "lost" or not updated. It's happened before, and usually resolves within a few hours or a day or two when the repos get updated again
[04:08] <skilz> I can't even right click on the black box to bring up a menu
[04:08] <somsip> emmetea: so you're on 10.04, you can't install gparted using apt-get or synaptic due to libparted errors, yes?
[04:09] <emmetea> somsip: yes.
[04:09] <somsip> emmetea: could be of interest and marked as solved - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1594111.html
[04:10] <_Tristan> Hey, how can I record pulseaudio output to an mp3 file? I've done a bunch of research but everything I find is outdated/doesn't work
[04:10] <emmetea> somsip: thank you checking it out
[04:10] <sdjf> brassero is a serious mess, it's one of the things that get me disappointed of linux sometimes. Hard to believe that after all this time a major linux distribution can't burn cd's properly.
[04:10] <ovhan> how do i check for updates on my ubuntu 11.10 server
[04:11] <gizmobay> When I do a "ls" in a directory some of the files are highlighted red. Does anyone know why?
[04:11] <MrCleanWithHair> ovhan, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:11] <somsip> emmetea: other suggests appear to include fix broken packages, or remove libparted and install gparted to see if it pulls it in. Not sure what else that might break though
[04:11] <MrCleanWithHair> gizmobay, do the files end with .tar
[04:11] <ovhan> ty mrclean
[04:11] <gizmobay> no
[04:11] <somsip> sdjf: fine here as long as i use low speeds, but you could try xfburn
[04:12] <PPPPPPP> Does running "ping my_server.com -f" really slow down a server at all?
[04:12] <gizmobay> S02nxserver
[04:12] <gizmobay> I removed the package, nxserver
[04:12] <antipragmatist> hi
[04:12] <gizmobay> The files show in red but there isn't a file
[04:12] <antipragmatist> what is fbi surveilance van #24?
[04:13] <ovhan> MrCleanWithHair: so are those 2 commands the same thing
[04:13] <MrCleanWithHair> ovhan, no. update updates the list of packages and upgrade prompts you to upgrade to newer versions
[04:14] <BobDull> I have looked around the internet and have found most topics discuss using either expect/send, or editing the sudoer's file to have the ability to run a bash script as any user. I have had no luck. Can someone help me run a sudo command from a bash script even if a password is required?
[04:14] <MrCleanWithHair> gizmobay, generally files show up red (or green or blue) because you have color output for ls enabled in your .bashrc file
[04:14] <ovhan> MrCleanWithHair:  so update updates my package lists?
[04:14] <somsip> antipragmatist: it's possibly someone with a wifi access point and a sense of humour
[04:14] <gizmobay> I see
[04:14] <skilz> How can I install apt-get sun-java6-jre
[04:14] <BobDull> I know the password, and I don't have any real security concerns for the specific task, unfortunately I can't just echo "passwordhere" | sudo command here
[04:14] <MrCleanWithHair> ovhan, yes. and upgrade will tell you what can be upgrade and ask you if you want to do so
[04:15] <BobDull> because that doesn't work. It always pauses by script at the password prompt.
[04:15] <somsip> BobDull: you need a tee..
[04:15] <nac-godfather> If someone says their goal is to purchase a laptop that is linux friendly;  They don't know enough about computers to deserve to install linux, and neither deserve the money to purchase said laptop, and should provide me with the funds to equip a Sager NP8150 with a GTX 485M and the works (16GB RAM etc.)!
[04:15] <skilz> DO I need to enable non-free?
[04:15] <fearlesspancakes> whats the command to install/setup an init.d script?
[04:15] <BobDull> somsip: I don't know what a tee is.
[04:15] <skilz> !tell skilz about non-free
[04:15] <OttifantSir> PPPPPPP: pinging a server once doesn't slow down a server, but incessant pinging several times a second from multiple locations might (Distributed Denial Of Service)
[04:15] <somsip> BobDull: last example of first answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/82256/how-do-i-use-sudo-to-redirect-output-to-a-location-i-dont-have-permission-to-wr
[04:15] <nac-godfather> omg OttifantSir, no probably not.
[04:16] <BobDull> ok, I'll check it out. Thanks.
[04:16] <nac-godfather> that's a botnet with ping flooding.
[04:16] <nac-godfather> not a single ping from multiple locations, otherwise there would be no internet worth looking at.
[04:16] <OttifantSir> nac-godfather: OK. Thanks for the correction.
[04:16] <gizmobay> Thanks MrCleanWithHair
[04:17] <OttifantSir> I've written some scripts to help (de)activate mods in Warzone2100 and would appreciate someone looking them over: http://ottilaptop.ottifantsir.operaunite.com/Warzone/
[04:17] <emmetea> somsip: thanks i think that will have solved the problem, just have to head over to that computer to try it
 does addint the " -f" make it ping several times a second?
[04:18] <almoxarife> skilz: there is a ppa for sun-java, install it
[04:18] <Flatlined> Anyone using " Ndiswrapper " if so what chip ?
[04:18] <ovhan> ubuntu server 11.10: how do i check how much space i have on my hdd , or info on it or something
[04:18] <somsip> ovhan: du -h
[04:19] <OttifantSir> PPPPPPP: I just have basic understanding of pinging, and have already been proven wrong in my assumptions, so I don't know
[04:19] <skilz> almoxarife, ppa? what do I have to do?
[04:19] <somsip> ovhan: er... df -h
[04:19] <ovhan> oh , k was gonna say it didnt work =P ty
[04:19] <BobDull> somsip: not sure if I understand, when it sudo tee's, does that take what is in test.out and use that to fill in the password?
[04:19] <somsip> ovhan: it worked, just told you want you didn't want to know :)
[04:19] <ovhan> is tmpfs temporary files?
[04:20] <ovhan> -facepalm- lol thanks for that som =P
[04:20] <ovhan> so what DID du -h do ?
 ok well thanks! According to the man page "-f" is the "flood" command so i THINK it will work.
[04:20] <ovhan> nvm , ill check
[04:20] <somsip> BobDull: it allows the echo (which does not have sudo rights) to be written to a program that ius given sudo rights. The explanation on the URL I gave is better than that. But I don't know what you want to use it for so YMMV
[04:20] <almoxarife> !info ppa | skilz
[04:20] <bsmith093> what does this mean?
[04:20] <bsmith093> GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[04:20] <somsip> ovhan: current directory disk usage
[04:20] <almoxarife> !ppa
[04:21] <Flatlined> Anyone using " Ndiswrapper "
[04:21] <ovhan> ty som , but manual told me =P
[04:21] <somsip> ovhan: good move
[04:21] <ovhan> so wait what is this info then , file space?
[04:22] <skilz> almoxarife, whats the ppa url?
[04:22] <ovhan> "du - estimate file space usage"
[04:22] <skilz> to add in sources.list
[04:22] <BobDull> Oh. somsip, I don't want to be rude but I think that *may* be more than the purpose of this script. It is just a 5 line script that just needs to run Synergy Client and connect to a localhost, but the client needs sudo. So, when the computer boots up I have it automatically run, and since it is on-boot, it is the first time sudo is used, so I am trying to automate password entry.
[04:22] <ovhan> the output is 4.0k    ./. cache
[04:22] <ovhan> 24k                            .
[04:22] <ovhan> so whats that mean somsip
[04:22] <BobDull> Maybe I'm missing how easy it is :-/
[04:23] <somsip> BobDull: And I was missing the point. Can you copy the script to pastebin as I don't get what you're needing to do
[04:23] <BobDull> Yup.
[04:23] <MrCleanWithHair> BobDull, yeah a pastebin would be really helpful
[04:23] <skilz> almoxarife, im on some launchpad site is that correct?
[04:24] <somsip> ovhan: total usage of the current directory is 24k, 4k of that is used by cache directory
[04:24] <ovhan> wait, so your saying im using 24 mb of space? on my hdd?
[04:24] <somsip> ovhan: since when has k meant mb?
[04:24] <skilz> !addppa
[04:24] <almoxarife> skilz: some? you need the specific ppa for sun-java, that's what you want? not the built in open java, right?
[04:25] <ovhan> simsip i thought it meant k as in thousands of killo bytes
[04:25] <ovhan> so its using 24 kilobytes?
[04:25] <ovhan> that sounds even less right
[04:25] <skilz> almoxarife, Yes I want sun-java
[04:25] <almoxarife> skilz: using server or desktop?
[04:25] <skilz> server
[04:25] <somsip> ovhan: kilo bytes (thousand bytyes) mega bytes (really good bytes), or 1024 kilo bytes
[04:25] <ovhan> and somsip , i just started using this today
[04:26] <MrCleanWithHair> whats the going rate for a kilo now a days?
[04:26] <ovhan> yes somsip i know this
[04:26] <ovhan> and 1024 mb's is a gb
[04:26] <somsip> ovhan: you asked. I'm out
[04:26] <MrCleanWithHair> but don't get your bytes confused with your bits
[04:26] <_Tristan> Does anybody know how to pipe pulseaudio output to an mp3 file?
[04:26] <kmthein> On Ubuntu, which open source project management software have you ever used, and which one would you recommend?
[04:26] <OttifantSir> somsip: Not technically correct. A Kilobyte is 1000 bytes, wheres a Kibibyte is 1024 bytes
[04:26] <somsip> _Tristan: you want to record from your soundcard?
[04:26] <_Tristan> somsip: the output, yeah
[04:27] <pnorman_> OttifantSir: Only if you're a revisionist drive maker
[04:27] <somsip> OttifantSir: I'm happy to be inaccurate in situations where accuracy is not important
[04:27] <emmetea> somsip: damn i was hoping that would have worked :(
[04:28] <BobDull> http://pastebin.com/ZLaxsMxX
[04:28] <OttifantSir> pnorman and somsip: I know the term is used like somsip did, I am just nitpicking and it is a teaching point.
[04:28] <SlayersZ> hmmm, what is a good laptop to buy xD
[04:29] <somsip> OttifantSir: fair enough. I ahve no argument
[04:29] <almoxarife> skilz: on your machine interacting with the server assuming it's a linux machine install y-ppa manager, great for hunting down ppas
[04:29] <_Tristan> SlayersZ: one of those ugly black boxes lenovo makes. They last forever.
[04:29] <Flatlined> IBM levtro
[04:29] <somsip> SlayersZ: is this something to do with ubuntu?
[04:30] <pnorman_> SlayersZ: define what you're going to be doing with it, figure out your requirements, then come up with options and look at hardware compatibility lists
[04:31] <cliff_> I am currently using backtrack4, and copied the /etc/sources.list file from ubuntu to the backtrack4 sources.list, because the offensive-security repos were down.  Now i'm having some issues
[04:31] <emmetea> somsip: essentially libparted wants 2.2-5ubuntu5 and it has 2.2-5ubuntu5.1
[04:31] <almoxarife> cliff_: you broke ubuntu?
[04:31] <WanderingEnder> !backtrack | cliff_
[04:31] <almoxarife> :)
[04:32] <cliff_> okie dokie
[04:32] <WanderingEnder> cliff_: they'll be happy to help you in #backtrack-linux, or you can wipe your backtrack installation, use a supported derivative and we can help.
[04:32] <somsip> emmetea: have you tried forcing gparted?
[04:32] <Flatlined> !rtl8187l
[04:32] <somsip> emmetea: then fix packages. Could be bad advice that.
[04:32] <Flatlined> !rtl8187
[04:32] <WanderingEnder> !vmware
[04:32] <emmetea> somsip: that was my original question: how could i force gparted or libparted0 to install?
[04:33] <WanderingEnder> Not quite what I wanted, but that mway do.
[04:33] <Flatlined> !ndiswrapper
[04:33] <emmetea> somsip: so no i havent tried forcing it, not really sure of the command
[04:34] <somsip> emmetea: --force-yes but man recommends this is a Bad Thing
[04:34] <emmetea> somsip: outside of downloading the .deb and dpkg'ing it which i havent tried
[04:34] <somsip> emmetea: have you tried fixing broken with -f?
[04:34] <emmetea> somsip: oh, yes then i have tried that and it did not work. and yes i tried with the -f also
[04:35] <ovhan> ubuntu server 11.10: is there a DOS directory kinda command for this? like the old dir command
[04:35] <somsip> emmetea: rebuilt source lists? Again it may not be something you want to do
[04:35] <somsip> ovhan: ls
[04:36] <somsip> ovhan: called the bash prompt. There are many simple tutorials
[04:36] <emmetea> somsip: yeah just tried rebuilding the source list. thinking about just burning a gparted disc and working it that way for now
[04:37] <ovhan> kk somsip ill lookit up thanks
[04:37] <somsip> emmetea: with reports of others with the same problem I'd hope there is a simple fix out there, but short of googling I have no specific idea
[04:39] <ovhan> can ubuntu server 11.10 have multiple hdd's? just checking before i do it trial and error style =P lol
[04:40] <skilz> ovhan, Yes
[04:40] <emmetea> ovhan: all unix oses should allow for multiple hds
[04:41] <ovhan> kk
[04:41] <ovhan> ty
[04:41] <Flatlined> Anyone using " Ndiswrapper " if so what chip ?
[04:41] <WanderingEnder> Anyone familiar with open-vm-tools, and if it works "as well" as VMWare's own VMWare Client Tools for Linux?
[04:41]  * pnorman_ has 8 HDDs in his server
[04:42] <ovhan> D=
[04:42] <ovhan> lucky
[04:42] <ovhan> im making a server out of a old pc and some old parts
[04:42] <ovhan> >.>
[04:42] <ovhan> ugh is there any way to have the date command show am/pm time instead of the 1-24 hour army time thing
[04:42] <Flatlined> <-- runs on usb
[04:42] <WanderingEnder> ovhan: It can support hardware RAID controllers, software RAID, SATA, IDE/PATA, and some other exotic HDD controllers. My 1U runs Server, and it has 5 UDDs.
[04:42] <WanderingEnder> HDDs, even.
[04:43] <pnorman_> If using it for files or media, do not try that unless it has SATA support. I found it was cheaper to buy a new motherboard than to buy IDE drives
[04:43] <ovhan> no i have them lieing around
[04:43] <WanderingEnder> pnorman_: Try 10k USCSI3 drives. :)
[04:44] <ovhan> 10k uscsb drives?
[04:44] <skilz> Is there a sun-java web browser plugin?
[04:44] <WanderingEnder> Ultra SCSI 3.
[04:44] <somsip> ovhan: date - when/where/why do you want to do this?
[04:44] <skilz> firefox
[04:44] <ovhan> yes skilz i believe so
[04:44] <ovhan> somsip because im more comfortable reading the am pm time , =P
[04:45] <somsip> skilz: icedtea-web
[04:45] <pnorman_> WanderingEnder: SATA has been around for a long time, so I'd question using a motherboard that doesn't support it anyways.
[04:45] <ovhan> skilz one moment ill look for the link i jsut read
[04:45] <somsip> ovhan: where is it displayed?
[04:46] <ovhan> somsip when i type date it displays it
[04:46] <WanderingEnder> pnorman_: Most of my rackmounts are Generation 2 to Generation 3 servers.
[04:46] <ovhan> output is thu dec 8 23:41:30 est 2011
[04:46] <ovhan> last time i did it
[04:46] <nac-godfather> any news on a eye-candy solution for gnome-shell yet?
[04:46] <ovhan> skilz:  are you using the ubuntu server?
[04:46] <somsip> ovhan: bash commands all take parameters. You need to change the output of date to do what you want. type "man date"
[04:47] <ovhan> oh dur , i didnt try manual
[04:47] <ovhan> fudge
[04:47] <ovhan> ty
[04:48] <somsip> ovhan: that will lead you onto alias. This would be where you set an alias of "date" to actually run "date -s "my date format string" so it works transparently
[04:48] <ovhan> ahh i see
[04:48] <somsip> *not -s, but whatever it should be
[04:48] <robin0800> nac-godfather: there is now an extensions site
[04:50] <ovhan> sry i know this isnt he place to ask but, im using a desktop pc with room for only 1 hdd , is it alright to just leave the other hanging around like , ontop?
[04:50] <pnorman_> ovhan: bad idea
[04:50] <ovhan> figured so =\
[04:51] <ovhan> hmmmm
[04:51] <ovhan> maybe i can get a usb cdrom since the 1 in there is sucky anyways and then put a hdd where the cdrom is
[04:52] <pnorman_> You can do it and under ideal conditions it works
[04:52] <ovhan> god i hate these things for personal computers
[04:52] <ovhan> they belong in the office/school and thats it
[04:53] <nac-godfather> of course, that's what I'm doing right now.
[04:54] <nac-godfather> what's the difference between a sata/ide hdd and a usb besides the interface?  nothing.
[04:54] <pnorman_> It's just if you touch the PCB, knock the drive, spill something on it, it'll screw it up, and you'll lose data
[04:55] <nac-godfather> two cords instead of one.  It's probably safer to drop your hdd than those cheaply made and insanely expensive external hdds
[04:55] <ovhan> nac-godfather: i agree
[04:55] <pnorman_> nac-godfather: it's safer to drop the external one, since it's an internal + a case.
[04:55] <ovhan> i hate those
[04:56] <ovhan> pnorman
[04:56] <ovhan> ive dropped hdd's in the past and they worked
[04:56] <ovhan> i got a 1tb external hdd from seagate
[04:56] <ovhan> thing sucks big  hairy ones
[04:56] <ovhan> dropped it once and lost everything
[04:56] <ovhan> Q_Q
[04:56] <ovhan> wasnt even that big a fall , onto carpet i might add
[04:57] <ovhan> i read reviews and multiple people hav esimilar issues with it >.>
[04:57] <nac-godfather> I'm actually surprised, I had a mint install (11 amd64) brick two of my internal hdd recently.  The installer quit during the write of the bootloader, so I couldn't repartition or anything (wasn't recognized by any disk utility software).  I was pissed.
[04:57] <somsip> ovhan: I know it's quiet in here right now, but it is a support channel rather than a chat channel. Feel free to take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <zaltekk> nac-godfather: you can just recreate anything that was messed up
[04:58] <zaltekk> there is no such thing as a "bricked" harddrive
[04:58] <nac-godfather> so instead of a 350 sata ii drive, I'm now working with a 30GB ide.
[04:58] <ovhan> sry som
[04:58] <nac-godfather> yeah, i used to think so too, but these were.
[04:58] <zaltekk> you're wrong
[04:58] <nac-godfather> not even win98 cd could restore the mbr.
[04:58] <skilz> ovhan, no, just fluxbox
[04:59] <skilz> ovhan, whats the url?
[04:59] <ovhan> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/how-to-install-java-7-on-ubuntu-1110.html
[04:59] <ovhan> you can try it i guess
[05:00] <nac-godfather> It was funny, one of my old bosses, didn't know about gparted and there was a mega pile of hdd's the department was tossing, because the manager didn't know what a bootloader was.  So I just rewrote the partition tables and reformatted and restored the bootloaders and got like 30 bucks a piece for each drive.  It was a nice weekend.
[05:00] <skilz> I installed 6 and updated alternatives and disabled icedtea plugin in firefox now it not even picking up java installed on the system...
[05:00] <zaltekk> "restored the bootloaders?" lol..
[05:01] <nac-godfather> install regular java (google on amd64 if you have to).
[05:01] <skilz> When I say '6' I mean 'sun-java6-jre'.
[05:01] <zaltekk> skilz: did you log out and back in to get your paths updated?
[05:01] <SlayersZ> how big were the drivs?
[05:01] <skilz> nope
[05:01] <nac-godfather> it's not that hard to symlink the plugins to firefox
[05:01] <zaltekk> that's why it isn't found.
[05:01] <skilz> zaltekk, perhaps I should try that
[05:02] <skilz> nac-godfather, how do I do it?
[05:02] <skilz> one moment please
[05:02] <nac-godfather> hold on
[05:02] <zaltekk> skilz: log out and back in
[05:02] <zaltekk> then try again
[05:02] <skilz> ok
[05:02] <dreadyc> looking for help diagnosing faulty hardware that keeps crashing my sytem
[05:02] <nac-godfather> Let me see if I can find the tut I followed this last time.  COuldn't get java to work at all forever.
[05:02] <nocturnal_> if i am running x without a window manager can i resize a window?
[05:02] <mouse> I just installed a nvidia gtx 560 card I'm trying to install the proper driver.  The driver needs x to close before it can install but when I do /etc/init.d/gdm stop the screen stays black and I don't see any login prompts.  Can anyone help?
[05:02] <zaltekk> nocturnal_: you do have a window manager. it's probably just twm
[05:03] <somsip> nocturnal_: you are in x with no WM? How did you maange that?
[05:03] <ovhan> how do i shutdown my ubuntu 11.10 server, i tried shutdown -P and shutdown -p 1
[05:03] <ovhan> oh
[05:03] <somsip> ovhan: sudo shutdown -h now
[05:03] <ovhan> oj nvm
[05:03] <ovhan> oh*
[05:03] <nocturnal_> zaltekk: then how can i resize?
[05:04] <skilz> Still doesnt work
[05:04] <ovhan> somesip i think i got it
[05:04] <somsip> nocturnal_: in TVM don't you click in the top left and get a dropdown that's resize, then the mouse turns into a crosshair?
[05:04] <ovhan> i did shutdown 1 -P
[05:04] <ovhan> and it looks like its working ....
[05:04] <zaltekk> somsip: something like that
[05:04] <skilz> zaltekk, * 2            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java is selected but when I load the page it doesnt think java is installed
[05:05] <dreadyc> shutdown ubuntu 11.10> sudo reboot -p
[05:05] <nocturnal_> somsip: no i have no window borders, just a terminal where i can run commands and it will open in a window
[05:05] <somsip> nocturnal_: the terminal is full screen?
[05:05] <ovhan> somsip:  k the 1 -P params worked , ty tho
[05:05] <ovhan> good night all
[05:06] <ovhan> im done with this for now =)
[05:06] <dreadyc> looking for help diagnosing faulty hardware that keeps crashing my sytem
[05:06] <pnorman_> dreadyc: Is it repeatable?
[05:06] <nocturnal_> somsip: no its a tiny terminal in the top left corner
[05:06] <nocturnal_> and my cursor looks like an X
[05:06] <somsip> nocturnal_: then it's in a window, so you must have a wm
[05:07] <nac-godfather> well before, I fixed the issue by replacing all the symlinks to the java plugin with actual copies of the files.  Downloaded java package, installed in opt, then symlinked libjavaplugin_jni.so and the other libnpjp2.so to the proper plugins directory (identify with dpkg -L firefox).
[05:07] <ovhan> dreadyc try #hardware ?
[05:07] <nocturnal_> somsip: well i cant move the terminal
[05:07] <somsip> nocturnal_: cat ~/.xinitrc
[05:07] <djdduty_> on ubuntu server, how do I run and configure my lampp server?
[05:07] <ovhan> they can probably help more
[05:07] <djdduty_> =/
[05:07] <djdduty_> <total nub
[05:07] <nac-godfather> this time, I installed aurora and corrected the plugin directory items.
[05:07] <pnorman_> dreadyc: try the files in /var/log. it's hard to say any more without information
[05:07] <somsip> djdduty_: that is a very big question. what specifically?
[05:07] <coolstar> I have this plan for new software for ubuntu that will reduce the barriers from switching from win/mac to linux
[05:08] <djdduty_> like, the aopache web server
[05:08] <coolstar> who wants to hear it?
[05:08] <vicky__> Hi guys., I want to change my login screen to slim in ubuntu 10.04.But after installing it hangs at plymouth? I reconfigured gdm ans set slim as default but the same exists.Any ideas?
[05:08] <somsip> djdduty_: still a big question
[05:08] <coolstar> its not like wine, but more specific
[05:08] <djdduty_> =/
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: go on
[05:08] <djdduty_> how do I run the server?
[05:08] <coolstar> it will be an open source implementation of adobe shockwave
[05:08] <nac-godfather> so no emulation layer, no porting?
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: in one line
[05:08] <somsip> djdduty_: sudo service apache2 start
[05:08] <coolstar> no emulation
[05:09] <coolstar> it will use opengl, gtk, gdk, and gstreamer
[05:09] <djdduty_> somsip then how do I get to the configuration options?
[05:09] <nocturnal_> somsip: it says no file
[05:09] <nac-godfather> so what, your just going to recode the closed software in java or another friendly languaga?
[05:09] <somsip> djdduty_: cd /etc/apache2 and they're in there
[05:09] <coolstar> i'm coding it in C++
[05:09] <coolstar> without any code from adobe
[05:10] <nac-godfather> anyone know how to setup password protected files with apache2?
[05:10] <djdduty_> I don't know the directories it installed in >_<
[05:10] <djdduty_> it has no gui...
[05:10] <nac-godfather> I've been trying to edit htaccess, but that isn't working for me, for some reason...
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: in short how would this help?
[05:10] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: shockwave is not available for linux
[05:11] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: and many linux users want to be able to play shockwave games (a lot of 3d online games are shockwave)
[05:11] <nac-godfather> what r u coding coolstar?  clone's of software?  or some type of emulation layer/whatever?
[05:11] <zaltekk> is this a troll or an idiot?
[05:11] <coolstar> clone. just like linux is a clone of unix
[05:11] <somsip> nocturnal_: what does right click do
[05:12] <Lasivian> what's a good .stl viewer or editor for ubuntu?
[05:12] <Lasivian> or hell, a bad one even, right now I got nothing :S thanks
[05:12] <nocturnal_> somsip: nothing
[05:12] <ovhan> zaltekk
[05:12] <ovhan> who ?
[05:12] <nac-godfather> no, just don't understand what you mean by break the barrier between os x windows and liux
[05:12] <zaltekk> is it not obvious?
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: but really how about this adobe shockwave only developers just drop it, google already kinda does this - they are pushing for native code(in a conainer) for chrome
[05:12] <ovhan> oh u mean him ya i dunno
[05:12] <ovhan> over zealous geek possibly?
[05:13] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: if you look at miniclip.com (a gaming site I use a lot), there's a lot of shockwave games on there
[05:13] <somsip> djdduty_: you may have to start with a basic tutorial on setting up LAMP http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: i don't see shockwave games as a turning point for OS switches
[05:13] <zaltekk> obv. doesn't know what he is talking about
[05:13] <somsip> nocturnal_: how did you install ubuntu and what version
[05:13] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I hate booting into windows to play shockwave games, and wine can't install the latest version
[05:13] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: even then, people won't open a windows browser just to play a shockwave game.
[05:14] <nac-godfather> yeah, you could have said, hey I'm working on a directx type solution to linux, and end the gaming monopoly ms has on that industry.
[05:14] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: dude what could they not do with html5/javascript and flash that they can with shockwave?
[05:14] <tMH> ppl, how can I convert "01.11.2011 6:12" data/time to unix time and back?
[05:14] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: hardware accellerated 3d graphics
[05:14] <tMH> using 'date' utility
[05:14] <nac-godfather> i don't think gamers who use windows still, actually care about flash games, or shockwave, they use windows, because they're real games that use real gpus'
[05:15] <fearlesspancakes> coolstar: sounds cool, I say go for it.
[05:15] <nocturnal_> somsip: ubuntu server 10.11
[05:15] <coolstar> I'm already starting to code it. It will be called OpenSWave. if you can think of a better name, go ahead and tell me. I'll be glad to listen.
[05:15] <ovhan> zaltekk:  thbis reminds me of a post i read on a minecraft forum once , , where somone suggested they add a place where they can type something like "create tank" and it suddenly pops up ,
[05:15] <nac-godfather> I'm all for it though, if I could run my games on linux and get the same fps, then I wouldn't touch another ms os again.
[05:16] <fearlesspancakes> nac-godfather: I hear ya
[05:16] <coolstar> Does the GPL licence sound okay?
[05:16] <coolstar> or should I go for LGPL?
[05:16] <rabbi1> how to install a D-LINK Wireless NIC on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[05:16] <somsip> nocturnal_: either 10.10 or 11.10. Which one? And does it go to the screen you describe immediately on login or anything else first?
[05:16] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: heh, a small niche but if you've got time go ahead; but i expect eventually this will be much more than a one man project - as soon as adobe changes you have to react
[05:17] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: the kernel should automatically detect and use it, as long as you plug it in the pci slot
[05:17] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: that's the whole point of open source. the whole community can help :)
[05:17] <skilz> Hey I installed sun-java6-plugin and loggout out and in but I can't see it in the firefox plugins options nor can I use java
[05:17] <mouse> How do I get to runlevel 3?
[05:17] <ben__> init 3
[05:17] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: it's done, i set up the network config also under wireless tab, restarting now.... brb :)
[05:17] <mouse> At boot I mean.
[05:18] <nocturnal_> somsip: i installed the bare minimum, it doesn't have gnome or kde or anything just a tty on startup
[05:18] <somsip> nocturnal_: so you get a full screen console at boot, you ahve to enter a user and pass. What happens then?
[05:18] <nac-godfather> skilz, use dpkg -L firefox and see where your firefox version is installing those two symlinks I mentioned.
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: this is big though, the opensource flash version doesn't seem to be doing well, i'm not even sure gnash is around anymore
[05:18] <nac-godfather> usually in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[05:18] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: it's not detecting :(
[05:19] <ben__> i would say just type in 3 when it asks the run level.
[05:19] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: when you type 'lspci' do you see it listed?
[05:19] <nocturnal_> somsip: then i login and i can type commands, so i type startx or xinit and i get a screen with a tiny terminal that i can start a browser in and click and stuff
[05:20] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I think they abandoned it cuz flash is available for linux from adobe
[05:20] <nac-godfather> but some version have different sections.  Go to java website, download jre or jdk, find libjpnp2.so and libjavaplugin_jni.so and use "sudo ln -s /<source_directory/libjavaplugin.jni /<target_directory/libjavaplugin.jni" etc.  You get it?
[05:20] <somsip> nocturnal_: so you startx?
[05:20] <nocturnal_> somsip: yeah
[05:20] <ben__> does anyone know anything about imac27 sound cards working with ubuntu?
[05:21] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: nope, its not
[05:21] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: is it a pci card or usb stick or...?
[05:21] <rabbi1> PCI
[05:21] <AD80HD> which version ben?
[05:21] <somsip> nocturnal_: so what is your actual issue? You want to use a wm?
[05:21] <AD80HD> of ubuntu
[05:22] <ben__> 11.10.
[05:22] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: hrmm, what model card?
[05:22] <rabbi1> DWA 525
[05:22] <nac-godfather> the chipset is all that matters, see if you can find out what it is.
[05:22] <nocturnal_> somsip: no when i start a browser, the window is really small now and i cant see anything so i need it to open bigger
[05:23] <AD80HD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[05:23] <coolstar> I'll have only one thing to say about the open source shockwave port i'm making
[05:23] <somsip> nocturnal_: so install a wm...
[05:23] <nocturnal_> somsip: isn't there a command to just start it with a certain resolution?
[05:23] <coolstar> Since my hardware only supports 32 BIT, I can't test on 64 bit. however, if anyone wants to test, you can compile the source code
[05:24] <nac-godfather> I'll test it, is it a firefox plugin, or some type of gui?
[05:24] <ben__> i've already tried that. force restarted alsa and everything. it still puts sound through the internal analog card.
[05:24] <somsip> nocturnal_: you want X to open a browser window at startup that has a set geometry?
[05:24] <coolstar> nac-godfather: It is a plugin for almost any browser that supports plugins (firefox, chrome, webkit-gtk, etc.)
[05:24] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: DWA 525
[05:24] <nocturnal_> not on startup, i want say chromium-browser to open at a certain size
[05:25] <Random832> i'm pretty sure that the browser plugin interface was standardized by netscape way back in the day
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: heh this'll be difficult with you not being able to review minute by minute changes; how close is this to being functional?
[05:25] <nac-godfather> create a simple bash script nocturnal_
[05:25] <Random832> and that all browsers do the same thing
[05:25] <nocturnal_> nac-godfather: i don't know the command to open it at that size
[05:25] <nac-godfather> I'm sure you can pass dimensions with the terminal, no?
[05:25] <ben__> i'm in a unix class now and the teacher knew nothing about sound cards lol.
[05:25] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I'm starting to code. It will be ready soon, but i can't give you any ETA's though
[05:26] <somsip> nocturnal_: http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/
[05:26] <nocturnal_> nac-godfather: that's what i thought but my browser window is too small to look
[05:26] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: It will depend on how many people join in, and how much people contribute.
[05:26] <nocturnal_> somsip: no browser, that's what i'm trying to resize so i can see
[05:26] <somsip> nocturnal_: so drop to cli and use links2
[05:26] <nac-godfather> no file browser or web?
[05:27] <somsip> *links
[05:27] <nocturnal_> nac-godfather: neither
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: start a git or svn
[05:27] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: which do you think is better?
[05:28] <coolstar> I could use github, or google code (svn)
[05:28] <somsip> nocturnal_: the thing is, when you do that, the text sizxe will still re reltive to the X display. So maybe go full screen and use the zoom functions to make the screen bigger? If chromium does that. Or install a simple WM
[05:28] <nac-godfather> pretty much the same, but i like svn - but I don't know which is newer
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: i've never personally used them, i would say use whatever is the easiest to set up to save time
[05:28] <nac-godfather> there's hg/mercurial too
[05:28] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I think i'll use google code, since I like it better
[05:29] <somsip> nocturnal_: does F11 do anything?
[05:29] <nac-godfather> You probably wouldn't find as many open-source coders looking to contribute w/ google-code, but I could be wrong.  Just seems the norm to use svn or git in linux
[05:29] <somsip> nocturnal_: in chromium
[05:29] <DjMadness> Xase: no problem
[05:30] <coolstar> nac-godfather: google code is svn
[05:30] <nocturnal_> somsip: no
[05:30] <nac-godfather> they typically already have the tools needed to commit their changes n' stuff ya know
[05:30] <nac-godfather> ah my bad then
[05:30] <SlayersZ> is open source really a good thing through
[05:30] <mrpink57> of course it is
[05:30] <coolstar> SlayersZ: for these type of projects, yes
[05:31] <somsip> nocturnal_: install a wm
[05:31] <coolstar> SlayersZ: it is too much work for one person to track adobe's changes per version
[05:31] <ben__> could anyone help with imac27 ubuntu 11.10 sound card configuration?
[05:31] <godofmischief> with 11.10 how can i add my user to vboxusers group?
[05:32] <nocturnal_> somsip: how can i install something extremely light and only used when i startx or xinit
[05:32] <SlayersZ> same here.  I alwyas have troubles with ubuntu
[05:32] <SlayersZ> always something wrong
[05:33] <somsip> nocturnal_: when at a very early testiong stage with X, I have used twm to get the basic functins
[05:33] <mrpink57> godofmischief: gpasswd -a USERNAME vboxusers
[05:33] <SlayersZ> my problem is that both my video card are on with ubuntu and thus destorys batterly life
[05:33] <SlayersZ> at least wireless works xD
[05:34] <ben__> my problem is my sound card only plays analog. sounds like it's coming from a set of headphones at high volume.
[05:34] <coolstar> ben__: same here
[05:34] <ben__> i'm in a unix class and i can't even figure it out.
[05:34] <godofmischief> im running 11.10 host, xp guest, i need to add my host machine linux user to the vboxuser group to have access to the usb drives via my xp guest machine
[05:35] <ben__> and i have a box at the bottom right of my screen saying "amd unsupported hardware" and it points to the monitor lolol.
[05:35] <mrpink57> godofmischief: gpasswd -a USERNAME vboxusers did this not do it via cli?
[05:35] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: try this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799715&highlight=DWA-525&page=1
[05:35] <coolstar> does anyone have any other names to suggest for an open source shockwave player? I'm thinking of OpenSWave. I'd be happy to hear of more names
[05:36] <coolstar> I'm gonna create the svn repo on google code, so I want to know what to name it
[05:37] <SlayersZ> icecube
[05:37] <coolstar> SlayersZ: sounds good. I'll consider it
[05:39] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: thank you, checking out
[05:39] <coolstar> I found out google code has git, and svn. So we're good on those.
[05:39] <godofmischief> mrpink57, indeed, thanks very much that worked
[05:39] <mrpink57> !next
[05:41] <djdduty_> anyone direct me to a centos channel?
[05:41] <tensorpudding> have you tried #centos?
[05:42] <tensorpudding> i don't know if that's actually there, but it'd be logical to check
[05:42] <mrpink57> thats the channel #centos
[05:42] <mrpink57> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8
[05:42] <nocturnal_> somsip: i just used javascript to open a new window in the browser a certain size and that stuck
[05:42] <somsip> nocturnal_: clever idea that
[05:43] <randen> i am so confused about how the filesystem works for my mounted drives
[05:43] <ben__> what is your question?
[05:43] <nocturnal_> somsip: thanks for the help though. much appreciated
[05:43] <somsip> nocturnal_: np
[05:43] <root_> 1
[05:44] <randen> for some reason i cant change owner:group of my mounted drives, even if im root
[05:44] <randen> why is that?
[05:46] <mrpink57> randen: can I assume you are using chown?
[05:46] <randen> you can
[05:46] <mazda01> anyone know an easy way to show transfer speed of file transfer within gnome-terminal?
[05:46] <Folklore> im getting error in ssh
[05:46] <Folklore> says not in gzip format
[05:46] <Folklore> but the file ends in .tar.gz
[05:46] <Folklore> this for ubuntu
[05:46] <Folklore> when I try to use tar
[05:46] <ben__> alright. got my sound working.
[05:47] <randen> Folklore: just b/c a file has a .gz doesnt necesarily mean it is a gzip file
[05:47] <Folklore> so how I extract it then
[05:48] <randen> maybe its just tarballed only? try removing the .gz extension
[05:48] <randen> then untar
[05:50] <Folklore> I tried that didn't help
[05:50] <Folklore> don't get how that would help anyway cause linux doesnt care about file extensions
[05:50] <mrpink57> randen: have you tried for chgrp?
[05:50] <Folklore> http://www.psybnc.info/download/psyBNC-2.3.2-7-auto.tar.gz
[05:50] <Folklore> thats the link
[05:51] <mrpink57> randen: chgrp -Rv usergroup somedir
[05:52] <randen> Folklore: try file -f filename.tar.gz
[05:52] <randen> it should tell you if it is actually gzipped
[05:53] <Folklore> oh lol
[05:53] <Folklore> it's a file filled with error script
[05:53] <Folklore> html and php looks like
[05:53] <Folklore> guess it doesn't exist
[05:53] <Folklore> thanks randen
[05:54] <randen> mrpink57, it appears to be changing the group
[05:54] <mrpink57> hooray
[05:54] <vijvij> HI how do I resolve this. GLIBC_2.11 not found
[05:54] <randen> so why cant i change owners?
[05:55] <mrpink57> randen: I'm not exactly sure but I would just chmod it
[05:56] <randen> mrpink57, so it says that it changed the group, but when i do ls -l it didnt
[05:56] <randen> still the old group
[05:56] <dr_willis> randen:  what fs is this
[05:56] <soreau> vijvij: What is giving you that message?
[05:56] <randen> dr_willis, ntfs
[05:56] <mrpink57> that might be why
[05:56] <randen> i dual boot with windows 7
[05:56] <dr_willis> randen:  you dont chown or chmod on ntfs or vfta
[05:57] <vijvij> soreau : I built firefox in lucid. I am running it in hardy. ./firefox is giving me that saying libxul.so requires that
[05:57] <dr_willis> vfat
[05:57] <randen> so it is impossible to view these drives with other users?
[05:57] <soreau> vijvij: You probably should rebuild it in the new environment
[05:57] <OlaRune> vijvij: try apt-get install libc6
[05:57] <dr_willis> you use rhe proper mount options for ntfs3g
[05:58] <randen> ubuntu just auto mounted them
[05:58] <vijvij> soreau : that is the constraint I am working with. OlaRune : let me try that thatnks.
[05:58] <soreau> vijvij: but actually, why would you not just use the latest version of ubuntu or the packaged version of ff in hardy?
[05:58] <ranjan> hi all, how to setup password for grub 2 in ubuntu
[05:58] <dr_willis> randen:  its doable. byt you dont use chown or chmod
[05:58] <mrpink57> randen: you need to make sure ntfs-config installed then mount specifically a user and group
[05:58] <vijvij> soreau : I am doing a little bit of firefox devlopment. I have changed a little bit of code
[05:58] <dr_willis> !ntfs3g
[05:58] <randen> cool thanks
[05:59] <mohammadtiti> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10. When trying to install it, surprisingly I saw that it didn't detect my Windows 7 HP SP1.what should i do to not harming my windows and having ubuntu?
[05:59] <vijvij> OlaRune, soreau : libc6 is already the newest version
[05:59] <soreau> vijvij: That's even more of a reason to build the code you're working on, in your working environment
[05:59] <OlaRune> mkay, now we know that at least :P
[06:00] <dr_willis> randen:  the umask. or fmask or dmask options i think are needed
[06:00] <dr_willis> i see this ntfs question about once a month :-)
[06:00] <vijvij> soreau : ok I will try that. Thanks.
[06:00] <soreau> vijvij: If you've built a package in lucid, the resulting binary is not likely to run on hardy even if you satisfy the dependencies
[06:00] <maum> what is the best dictionary on ubuntu?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !best
[06:01] <glitchd> so im running 10.04 still and am thinking about going to 11.10, im wondering if my existing burg install will transfer or will i have to reinstall it? and the same question again for all my other programs that are currently installed.
[06:01] <rumpel> maum, some use stardict, but they seem to have legal issues regarding their dictionaries...
[06:01] <dr_willis> !info burg
[06:01] <mohammadtiti> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10. When trying to install it, surprisingly I saw that it didn't detect my Windows 7 HP SP1.what should i do to not harming my windows and having ubuntu?
[06:01] <vijvij> soreau : ok.. I guess u are right.. let me try building it in hardy and check.. thanks..
[06:02] <glitchd> ubottu, so i would have to manually configure and install it then?
[06:02] <glitchd> wtf..
[06:02] <maum> rumpel: stardic is using japanise? chinese + english. I am from korea
[06:02] <glitchd> so im running 10.04 still and am thinking about going to 11.10, im wondering if my existing burg install will transfer or will i have to reinstall it? and the same question again for all my other programs that are currently installed.
[06:02] <dr_willis> !bot
[06:02] <rumpel> maum, yes
[06:02] <glitchd> nope not a bot.
[06:03] <dr_willis> glitchd:  burg is unofficial so we dont really know
[06:03] <dr_willis> glitchd:  ubotu is a bot....
[06:03] <glitchd> dr_willis, right i got that it was a bot after my initial respones to it..lol
[06:04] <glitchd> dr_willis, so if i do the upgrade and not reinstall to get 11.10, will burg even still be working, or do u think it will crash grub?
[06:04] <dr_willis> stuff in the repos should get updatedon a upgrade to a new release
[06:04] <soreau> vijvij: Since there is a two year lapse between the two versions, you probably need to build the ff code from hardy as well. I'd be surprised if the lucid ff built in hardy with no problem
[06:04] <mrpink57> I do not think it will crash
[06:05] <glitchd> because i have seen tutorials about how to install burg in 11.10
[06:05] <dr_willis> glitchd: no idea. thw brug ppa will get disabled i imagine
[06:05] <mohammadtiti> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10. When trying to install it, surprisingly I saw that it didn't detect my Windows 7 HP SP1.what should i do to not harming my windows and having ubuntu?
[06:05] <glitchd> mrpink57, but will it still boot?
[06:05] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, i think u would have to put it in grub manually
[06:05] <mrpink57> glitchd: It should just fine since it just maps to the boot drive on your partition.
[06:05] <SlayersZ> how do you gys like unity?
[06:06] <glitchd> hate it.
[06:06] <mrpink57> things like syslinux, grub, grub2, and lilo all boot newer kernels just fine
[06:06] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  ive seen windows systems with 4 primary partions confuse the installer
[06:06] <Besogon> Hi I have no idea how to use "pastebinit" to paste into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> How can I do that, glitchd?
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> Aha
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> ok what should I do now?
[06:06] <Besogon> I get an error by the time cairo dock paste into pastebin well
[06:06] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, i dont know the exact specifics of how to do it but gimme a sec and im sure i can find some place telling how to do it.
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> I want both of them.
[06:06] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  you cant even do an install correct?
[06:07] <Besogon> Any suggestion?
[06:07] <dr_willis> #1thing to do.. is always make backups....
[06:07] <mohammadtiti> I didn't try that. since i'm somehow new to Linux world, I didn't take the risk of losing my stuff.
[06:08] <polardude1983> I am having problem opening up ted.jar a java program that can find episodes of any TV Show. Help would be appreciated. I do have sun java 6 runtime installed
[06:08] <dr_willis> make a windows rescue dvd set also for your install
[06:08] <mohammadtiti> I Just don't know how to manually partiotioning it to make it run with windows, Properly.
[06:08] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[06:08] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, it wont
[06:08] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, it has nothing to do with the partitioning
[06:08] <Besogon> polardude1983: Official java?
[06:09] <polardude1983> besogon, I believe so
[06:09] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  pastebin your sudo fdisk -l     output
[06:09] <mohammadtiti> ok. so the so-called grub doesn't detect the windows bootloader?
[06:09] <glitchd> polardude1983, whats the error?
[06:09] <polardude1983> glitchd, it doesn't open at all. i tried also opening it in the terminal and i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/764617/
[06:09] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, ok, but you are in ubuntu right now?
[06:10] <Besogon> polardude1983: Ubuntu repository don't provide official Java. You shoud add separate ppa to install it
[06:10] <Besogon> repositary
[06:10] <mohammadtiti> yes I'm in it, but with the live cd
[06:10] <dr_willis> !java
[06:10] <randen> dr_willis, so the NTFS config tool did the trick, but now al my drives are root:root
[06:10] <glitchd> polardude1983, so your trying to run this program "ted" from inside the live cd?
[06:10] <vicky__> slim ???
[06:11] <mohammadtiti> yes glitchd, i'm in ubuntu but by booting the live cd
[06:11] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, is there a reason u havent installed it?
[06:11] <dr_willis> randen:  dit fstab and make a ntfs3g entries with the options you need.
[06:11] <polardude1983> I tried to open the ted.exe in wine, and it says requires Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0. NO i am running ted.jar from an actual installation
[06:11] <glitchd> polardude1983, ok now im confused..
[06:12] <glitchd> polardude1983, your on a live cd trying to run a program thats installed on the actual hd?
[06:12] <mohammadtiti> yes glitchd. I afraid that after installing ubuntu, my windows doesn't boot
[06:12] <polardude1983> glitchd, no. I never said i was on a live cd :)
[06:12] <mrpink57> mohammadtiti: I would suggest doing a windows backup before anything.
[06:12] <Besogon> polardude1983: Ah... winetricks? may be
[06:12] <glitchd> polardude1983, lol sry man too many conversations
[06:12] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  make a restore dvd set for your hp. :-)
[06:12] <polardude1983> glitchd, lol its ok :)
[06:12] <dr_willis> just in case
[06:13] <rumpel> polardude1983, have you installed the windows-jre for wine?
[06:13] <glitchd> polardude1983, i would right click the file and check to make sure that its executable
[06:13] <polardude1983> I am trying to get the ted.jar to open, but it won't. So i thought i would try the windows version. but the windows version gave me the jre 1.5.0 needed. But i really want to try to get the ted.jar to open
[06:13] <randen> dr_willis, for some reason i have double the amount of entries, almost like symlinks to the drives (e.g. drive names & mount names)
[06:13] <dr_willis> here should be a natve ted app for linux.
[06:13] <polardude1983> glitchd, it is executable :) i checked
[06:14] <glitchd> polardude1983, hmm....whats the exact error it gives u?
[06:14] <polardude1983> dr_willis, There are more then one TED apps in linux. This one finds TV shows
[06:14] <dr_willis> randen:  extra fstab entries perhaps
[06:14] <polardude1983> glitchd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/764617/
[06:14] <randen> dr_willis, its ok to remove them?
[06:14] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, would u be interested in getting teamviewer?
[06:14] <dr_willis> randen:  chech fstab and see what it has.
[06:15] <randen> thats where im looking
[06:15] <dr_willis> !fstab
[06:15] <randen> /dev/sdc1	/media/Tiny	ntfs-3g	defaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[06:16] <randen> /dev/sdc1	/media/sdc1	ntfs-3g	defaults,users,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[06:16] <glitchd> polardude1983, i would suggest redownloading the program in  linux and trying it again. possibly one thats made for linux?
[06:16] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, pm me
[06:16] <randen> those are the same drive
[06:16] <polardude1983> glitchd, unfortunately the linux version is the ted.jar from www.ted.nu
[06:16] <polardude1983> boo jaava
[06:16] <dr_willis> comment out  one if you want.  #  the front.
[06:16] <glitchd> polardude1983,  so its the same version then, or older?
[06:17] <randen> k
[06:17] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, do u know if u have grub or grub2?
[06:17] <ztag100> hey, I'm helping my cousin setup WUBI... all his files are gna be safe right?
[06:17] <polardude1983> glitchd, when i download the linux version from ted.nu it is a zip file that contains ted.jar and other files
[06:18] <glitchd> polardude1983, ok so extract it and try to run the .jar file and see if it works
[06:19] <polardude1983> glitchd, nope does not work
[06:19] <glitchd> polardude1983, pm me
[06:20] <dr_willis> check the ted docs on  how it should be  ran?
[06:20] <dr_willis> it may have some script to launch it or extra options needed
[06:20] <dr_willis> java -jar foo.jar       also may work
[06:22] <polardude1983> dr_willis, yeah i did that which is what came up with what i have in the terminal which is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/764617/
[06:23] <mohammadtiti> no dlitchd
[06:23] <mohammadtiti> no glitchd
[06:23] <mohammadtiti> All i know is that I have ubuntu 11.10 right beside me
[06:23] <glitchd> what do u mean right beside u?
[06:24] <dr_willis> there are some forum  posts i see  on ted not working in 11.10
[06:24] <gagzilla> question: in USB startup (live) disk creator- does the reserved space get used by packages updated?
[06:25] <polardude1983> dr_willis, i still have 10.04 LTS :)
[06:25] <gagzilla> or phrased another way- question: what happens to the unreserved space in Live USB disk?
[06:25] <dr_willis> gagzilla:  yes. but ive found that doing a live cd + persistant save with a lot of updates can get unstable after a while
[06:26] <dr_willis> polardude1983:  check the other guides i saw then on setting ted up i guess.. there were a dozen on doing it in 10.04
[06:26] <mohammadtiti> guys can this link and its contents help me with this issue?
[06:26] <dr_willis> )
[06:26] <mohammadtiti> https://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[06:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:26] <polardude1983> k
[06:26] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  the installer is not seeing your hd?
[06:26] <gagzilla> dr_willis, thanks!
[06:27]  * gagzilla wishes there was a good way to get the latest Ubuntu in live form (without requiring update/upgrade)
[06:28] <dr_willis> gagzilla:  i set up grub2 to boot the iso file.. to update it.. i replece the iso..
[06:28] <gagzilla> dr_willis, so you just update the packages in the mounted iso?
[06:28] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis, the installed is seeing my hd, but not my windows partition. it doesn't detect that i have windows 7 HP SP1 preinstalled
[06:29] <dr_willis> the live cd+save file is good for light ussage. or i do a full install to flash drive
[06:29] <gagzilla> interesting. Perhaps I should give that a try.
[06:29] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:   clarify what 'not seeing it' means...
[06:29] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  cant access the data? grub not adding an entry for it?
[06:30] <pnorman_> Do you think it's possible for a software problem (including kernel and driver problems) to crash the system to the extent that the power and reset switches on the front of the computer fail to do anything?
[06:30] <Mr_Queue> pnorman_: doubtful.
[06:30] <Mr_Queue> pnorman_: probably a bad mb or your bios are shot.
[06:31] <Mr_Queue> blow up the power supply?
[06:31] <dr_willis> pnorman_:  very doubtfull.. mouse chewed the wires more likely..
[06:31] <OlaRune> if i have a lvm partition spanning three HDD:s, will the whole thing get corrupted if one disc fails?
[06:31] <pnorman_> Mr_Queue: It's either the SATA card, the SATA card bios, or the drivers. I'd like to rule out the drivers so I can focus on the hardware issues.
[06:31] <Mr_Queue> OlaRune: Yes, you need raid.
[06:31] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis my problem is:when trying to install ubuntu, it does detect my hd. But it doesn't detect my windows. in the installation procedure there come a window saying installing alongside windows or repartitioning the whole disk
[06:31] <Mr_Queue> pnorman_: start ripping stuff out.
[06:31] <OlaRune> okay, i was just wondering
[06:32] <OlaRune> i'm still going to use lvm though, since it's not that important data i will be keeping there
[06:32] <OlaRune> and the discs vary greatly in size
[06:32] <OlaRune> :
[06:32] <OlaRune> :>
[06:32] <mohammadtiti> that window doesn't come for me, instead it says: Delete the whole disk or manually partition it
[06:33] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:   if you have 4 primary partitions on the hd to begin with .. the installer will stop. it must be able to make more partitions... so... pastebin the output of  'sudo fdisk -l' for us to look at . to verify if this is the issue
[06:33] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis, i just booted the live dvd, I can access my windows data and its contents. But as I told u before i didn't dare installing it
[06:34] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis you mean I have to type that phrase in the terminal
[06:34]  * dr_willis waits for the pastebin output..
[06:34] <mohammadtiti> ?
[06:34] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:34] <mohammadtiti> what should I do? what is "pastebin"?
[06:34] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebin
[06:35] <Mr_Queue> !pastbin | mohammadtiti
[06:35] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit   (typo)
[06:35] <mohammadtiti> gotcha
[06:35] <Mr_Queue> !pastebin | mohammadtiti
[06:35] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:35] <pnorman_> Mr_Queue: I could easily fix it by removing the SATA card - the problem only occurs with in, and only when doing io to the drives connected to it. I'm just hoping to avoid debugging driver issues if it has to be a hardware issue
[06:36] <Mr_Queue> could be, sounds ful.
[06:36] <Mr_Queue> /ful/fun/
[06:37] <pnorman_> Mr_Queue: the crash leaves nothing in /var/log either, and it can take awhile at heavy IO to crash
[06:37] <dr_willis> its so nice these days how many new machines come with 4 primary partitions....
[06:37] <krokzak> hi folks
[06:39] <mohammadtiti> I'm on it
[06:39] <mohammadtiti> i just can't find the terminal window to open
[06:39] <mohammadtiti> I'm new in linux world
[06:39] <ztag100> Is WUBI a smart way to introduce my couson to Ubuntu?
[06:40] <dr_willis> ztag100:  most in here hate wubi
[06:40] <jonathon_> I can't play MP3's D:
[06:40] <ztag100> really?
[06:40] <yuvateja> how to connect LBP2900B printer in ubuntu 10.04?
[06:40] <jonathon_> VLC can, But clementine can't
[06:40] <ztag100> This is the first time he is using any linuc
[06:41] <dr_willis> ztag100:  vbox or a full install to a flash drive is what id do.
[06:41] <ztag100> I thought it was a good way to introduce him
[06:41] <ztag100> well
[06:41] <dr_willis> wubi is fragile.
[06:41] <ztag100> he is about to reboot for the first time
[06:41] <ztag100> If it doesnt run well... then I'll have him try out a live CD
[06:41] <ztag100> or USB
[06:41] <dr_willis> which is a nice way to say its unstable :-)
[06:42] <dr_willis> i do a full install to my 32gb flash drive
[06:42] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, press alt+F2 then type in terminal and it will bring it up for u to click
[06:42] <ztag100> well.. Its to late nowe
[06:42] <jonathon_> Anyone? D:
[06:43] <sdeobald> Apologies if this isn't the place to ask, but is there a straight-forward way to display battery percentage rather than time-remaining in oneiric?
[06:43] <krokzak> jonathon_ are you tried with totem ?
[06:43] <jonathon_> Idk what totem is
[06:44] <jonathon_> Ahh, Nope, Haven't tried it, Trying to use Clementine
[06:45] <dr_willis> sdeobald: ive seen alternative battery indicator applets as askubuntu.com
[06:45] <krokzak> the default player for movies and such, the point is he can download the codecs
[06:46] <krokzak> do it first with totem and then try wit Clementine
[06:46] <jonathon_> k, Totem is DLing, So one moment
[06:46] <sdeobald> dr_willis: Cheers, thanks.
[06:49] <jonathon_> Totem will load the MP3, But no sound
[06:50] <krokzak> dont you get a message for download the codecs ?
[06:50] <jonathon_> ** (totem:31972): WARNING **: Could not create element 'gconfaudiosink'
[06:50] <jonathon_> ** (totem:31972): WARNING **: Could not create element 'gconfvideosink'
[06:50] <jonathon_> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[06:50] <jonathon_> Cannot connect to server socket
[06:50] <jonathon_> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[06:50] <FloodBot1> jonathon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <jonathon_> No, No message came up
[06:51] <krokzak> never seen that kind of error
[06:51] <jonathon_> Figures :P
[06:51] <krokzak> open synaptics and make a search with mp3 codecs
[06:51] <jonathon_> Gstreamer error: "Failed to connect: Connection refused"
[06:51] <jonathon_> Also get that error
[06:52] <jonathon_> Synaptic didn't turn up anything useful
[06:53] <Sidewinder1> jonathon_, Did you download it through the repositories? Are you sure you downloaded the correct version for the version of ubuntu, that you are using?
[06:53] <krokzak> are you sure ? did you install the gstream ugly and bad ?
[06:54] <jonathon_> sidewinder1, Yea, through the repositories, and it is the correct version. krokzak, Yes I do have gstreamer installed
[06:54] <krokzak> all of them ?
[06:55] <jonathon_> I have the ugly, not the bad one though, installing it now
[06:55] <krokzak> are you google it about the clementine player ?
[06:55] <Sidewinder1> jonathon_, 'Twas just a thought; I've never seen error messages like that before. :-(
[06:57] <jonathon_> It has an IRC Channel, So I might go ask around there in a moment
[06:58] <Laibsch> I'm currently in an area with very poor connections to the outside world.  One of the two phone providers just went down.  The funny situation with the other one is that I can make a GPRS connection with both of my mobile phones but not with one of the Huawei 3G dongles. Explanations?
[06:58] <SlayersZ> that
[06:58] <SlayersZ> s coool
[07:00] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis u there?
[07:00] <Sidewinder1> !sound | jonathon_
[07:00] <mohammadtiti> I finally managed to do that
[07:01] <Soath> !fglrx
[07:01] <dr_willis> im in and out all day. m at my real job. :-)
[07:02] <dr_willis> gotta love android phones with irc clients
[07:02] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis i did what u told me
[07:02] <mohammadtiti> for the pastebinit thing
[07:03] <dr_willis> and the pastebin url is ?
[07:03] <Laibsch> mohammadtiti: what is that?
[07:03]  * Laibsch is pastebinit maintainer
[07:03] <mohammadtiti> the only url i found is this:
[07:03] <yuvateja> i add printer to my lap. but paper was not printing from printer
[07:04] <yuvateja> what can i do for printing paper?
[07:05] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit                should spit out a url we want to see..
[07:06] <mohammadtiti> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe pastebinit all
[07:06] <mohammadtiti> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/oneiric/universe pastebinit all
[07:06] <Sidewinder1> yuvateja,  Have you checked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[07:06] <mohammadtiti> where can i find that url?
[07:07] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  ive no idea what you were doing with that.. all you needed to do from the live cd was run 2 commands..and pastw the url it gives  here
[07:08] <mohammadtiti> it doesn't give me any url
[07:08] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit             for command 1. to install the pastebinit command.
[07:08] <dr_willis> then
[07:08] <mohammadtiti> i did what u told me
[07:08] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[07:08] <mohammadtiti> i did that
[07:08] <dr_willis> for the 2nd com mand.
[07:09] <dr_willis> or just copy/paste the fdisk  -l output by hand to the pastebin web site
[07:09] <Laibsch> dr_willis: I believe pastebinit is in universe, that's not enabled by default on the CD, right?  Maybe that's the issue mohammadtiti is having.
[07:10] <dr_willis> Laibsch:  ive seen others install it this way. no idea whats onwhat cd's these days
[07:10] <mohammadtiti> dear dr_willis u didn't tell me about the 2nd command
[07:10] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  i did..... ;) several times
[07:11] <mohammadtiti> anyway the url is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/764645
[07:11] <mohammadtiti> so i'm sorry i didn't see that 2nd command
[07:11] <mohammadtiti> sorry
[07:11] <Laibsch> OK, I'm out. See you later.
[07:12] <yuvateja> sidewinder: yes canon lbp2900b not in the list
[07:12] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  what brand compter is this that came with such a default layout ?
[07:12] <dr_willis> thats a hidious disk layout ;)
[07:13] <mohammadtiti> that's asus
[07:13] <dr_willis> this is a laptop or desktop?
[07:14] <ztag100> so far no trouble
[07:14] <mohammadtiti> according to my preferences i partition it that way. one more thing is that it has windows 7 preinstalled, a partition for the backup which is hidden and a partition which it says ERP
[07:14] <mohammadtiti> a laptop
[07:14] <dr_willis> you partioned it that way?
[07:16] <mohammadtiti> some of them. I told u. it has some partitions on it. a 100GB, a 350 GB, a 15GB (hidden, primary, backup drive for the windows)
[07:17] <Sidewinder1> yuvateja, LBP2900 is listed but not LBP2900b; hmm.. Well you might try here, it's for the LBP2900, but probably couldn't hurt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[07:17] <dr_willis> partition 3 contains the logicals sda5,6,7,8   - no idea why you need so many. but you could rezise/remove unneeded ones to make some unallocated space for linux to install to.
[07:18] <dr_willis> i would backup anything imporntant. and be sure to have a dvd restore set made.. just in case
[07:18] <mohammadtiti> ur looking for an unpartitioned space? I've already have one....it's about 30GBs
[07:19] <dr_willis> i see no unallocated space there.. but the numbers are all out or order.
[07:19] <mohammadtiti> let me check it out
[07:19] <polardude1983> now it opens with double click
[07:20] <ztag100> is skype in the default repositorys?
[07:20] <ztag100> so my friend can type in
[07:20] <ztag100> sudo apt-get install skype ?
[07:20] <prince_jammys> !skype
[07:20] <dr_willis> may be some between sda5 and sda6 ;)
[07:21] <prince_jammys> ztag100: that ^
[07:21] <dr_willis> i never use such a complex disk layout
[07:22] <dr_willis> if theres some unallocated space gparted should be ablr to make a ext4 partition there.
[07:22] <ztag100> hthanks
[07:23] <ztag100> I installed it using the USC, but his wont open right
[07:23] <ztag100> it stays at a white screen
[07:23] <dr_willis> run it from terminal, look for error messages ztag100
[07:26] <bolo56> guys.. i want to compile gnome 2.32. do you know where i can start ?
[07:26] <inashdeen> hi, how do i use lowratevoip on ekiga??
[07:27] <ztag100> alright
[07:27] <ztag100> I thik he wants to sleep
[07:27] <ztag100> I'm giving him support through facebook chat until he gets to skype
[07:28] <ztag100> we're gna continue tomorrow
[07:28] <ztag100> gnight
[07:28] <ztag100> I have school tomorrow
[07:28] <ztag100> and I have to do a presentation
[07:28] <ztag100> so
[07:28] <ztag100> pce
[07:28] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis u there?
[07:28] <FloodBot1> ztag100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <ztag100> Lol, no more flooding
[07:29] <ztag100> night night everybody
[07:29] <prince_jammys> adios
[07:29] <ztag100> exit
[07:29] <ztag100> pce
[07:34] <rijndael> i cant get my old Nvidia TNT2 card to work
[07:35] <rijndael> damn it!
[07:35] <share> is there any player capable of using both cores of a core2duo processor?
[07:35] <pnorman_> share: what kind of player?
[07:35] <share> like VLC player
[07:35] <mohammadtiti_> dr_willis u still there?
[07:35] <pnorman_> music, videos, or both?
[07:36] <share> pnorman_: videos
[07:36] <mrpink57> share: mplayer
[07:37] <share> pnorman_: Im playing a full HD video that kinda freezes in a scene where is a lot of detail. only 1 core uses 100% the other core only uses 20%
[07:37] <share> isnt strange?
[07:37] <share> cpu and gpu are set to Performance
[07:37] <eigar> Hi. Im running Ubuntu 11.10 and having some problems when i start X. The machine goes in deadlock. Have tried with all the desktops. (Ubuntu, Ubuntu 2D, Gnome, Gnome Classic and Gnome classic (no effects))
[07:38] <eigar> tty works fine
[07:38] <eigar> (here I am now)
[07:38] <eigar> How / where do i log so that I can track the problem?
[07:39] <eigar> Can i enable some verbose loging for ie Gnome Classic (no effects)?
[07:39] <pnorman_> share: most recent computers do decoding in hardware (i.e. on the video card). decoding on the CPU, as you've seen, can be fairly intensive
[07:39] <eigar> Thats the profile I usually use.
[07:40] <share> pnorman_: but I dont think the problem is the graphic cards
[07:40] <share> pnorman_: when 1 core reaches 100 the video freezes
[07:40] <share> 100%
[07:41] <eigar> The machine goes into deadlock after about 2 seconds. Desktop does not get to get fully loaded
[07:42] <andrew_46> share: Do you have an nvidia card?
[07:42] <share> yes
[07:42] <andrew_46> share: vdpau output shuld offload the load onto the graphics card
[07:43] <share> what
[07:43] <share> OO
[07:43] <pegler> hi all.  I just installed 11.10 on my macbook pro, but can't get an external monitor working fully.  I can get my cursor on the second screen, but the cursor is a X.  not quite sure how to search for a solution
[07:43] <share> andrew_46: what do you mean?
[07:43] <pnorman_> share: if it's using 100% CPU then it's not using the video card to decode. My desktop uses about 5-8% CPU to play a 1080p movie, it's all on the GPU
[07:43] <staff_nowa> hello, how normally test file system errors in ubuntu. Than i try fsck -F /dev/sda6 i get this WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[07:44] <pnorman_> staff_nowa: test or repair?
[07:44] <share> pnorman_: damn :|
[07:44] <staff_nowa> test, if have error try repair :)
[07:44] <staff_nowa> but if mounted get this errors
[07:44] <andrew_46> share: share A while back NVidia released some code which allows software o offload video processing load onto certain NVidia cards
[07:44] <share> pnorman_: i set both cores to the minimum and now video is always freezing
[07:45] <pnorman_> for repair, it has to be unmounted. i believe there's a way to tell fsck to do it on the next startup
[07:45] <share> not always
[07:45] <andrew_46> share: Under MPlayer, SMPlayer r UMPlayer this is set by utilising a -vo of vdpau
[07:45] <share> "o offload video processing load onto certain NVidia cards" english please :P
[07:45] <share> what is offload?
[07:45] <Sidewinder1> staff_nowa, Never run fsck on a mounted file system; instead, boot to livecd and run fsck on your HDD from there.
[07:45] <pnorman_> share: have the video card do it instead of the cpu.
[07:46] <share> pnorman_: shouldnt vlc player do it?
[07:47] <andrew_46> share: It makes your nvidia card work instead of your core2duo processors :)
[07:47] <pnorman_> share: either the CPU or the GPU has to do the work. The GPU is just far faster at it.
 an recovery console can do fsck check, in virtual pc i have ubuntu, and that run fsck in mounted hdd linux down to not working. And now i don't whant will be with normally system :)
[07:47] <share> ye
[07:47] <share> I always thought the GPU was doing the work -.-
[07:47] <pnorman_> not if your CPU is at 100%.
[07:47] <Sidewinder1> ?
[07:48] <share> pnorman_: it only reaches 100% in scenes with very high bitrate
[07:48] <r3v0> Is there a kubuntu room
[07:48] <share> #kubuntu
[07:48] <share> andrew_46: mplayer -vo file?
[07:49] <pnorman_> share: turning compressed video into pixels takes a lot of calculations. video cards do these calculations faster than CPUs
[07:50] <share> nice
[07:50] <share> andrew_46: I found this nano ~/.mplayer/config then add vo=vdpau
[07:50] <eigar> Where is the config for user auto load on Ubuntu 11.10? (Config of what get automatically run on login - desktop environment)
[07:51] <andrew_46> share: To check your available vo try: mplayer -vo help
[07:51] <eigar> no gui-app. Im on tty only.
[07:51] <share> andrew_46: it listed many stuff
[07:51] <andrew_46> share: or better: mplayer -vo help | grep -i vdpau
[07:51] <share> vdpauVDPAU with X11
[07:51] <share> whats this
[07:52] <share> does it mean it supports?
[07:52] <kimp> Have just installed Ubuntu 10.04.3.  Firefox is Version 3.6.  How do I upgrade it?  (Since it's provided by the package manager...?)
[07:53] <share> kimp: you have to use a PPA
[07:53] <share> if you want firefox 8.0
[07:53] <kimp> share: how do I do that?  apt-get install firefox
[07:53] <bolo56> is firefox 8 stable ?
[07:53] <bolo56> i heared to many problems with it
[07:54] <share> if it wasnt stable it wouldnt be released :P
[07:54] <share> bolo56: it uses less memory etc
[07:54] <share> new features
[07:54] <share> kimp: wait a sec
[07:55] <andrew_46> share: Not sure as my own computer has no nvidia card :). What happens with: mplayer -vo vdpau <file> ?
[07:56] <share> kimp: if you want firefox 8 type this in terminal:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[07:56] <share> then: sudo apt-get update
[07:56] <share> and then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:56] <share> andrew_46: let me try
[07:57] <kimp> share: do I need to do anything to remove V3.6 first?
[07:57] <share> no
[07:58] <share> andrew_46: I think it's doing the same
[07:58] <share> and still freezes when bitrate is high
[07:59] <share> "Your system is too SLOW to play this!"
[07:59] <andrew_46> share: computer or mplayer?
[07:59] <andrew_46> share: oic
[07:59] <share> andrew_46: it's still using the CPU a lot
[07:59] <share> so it's not using GPU?
[08:00] <andrew_46> share: Can you pastebin the mplayer output?
[08:01] <quixotedon> all: do you have any issue of not able to send email using Thunderbird on gmail client?
[08:03] <kimp> thanks share, seems to be proceeding nicely.  If I want Thunderbird, is is a similar process?
[08:03] <share> andrew_46: http://pastebin.com/kmzVRH70
[08:03] <bolo56> anyone in here compiled gnome ?
[08:09] <mrpink57> bolo56: I have not compiled gnome but I have compiled a few windows managers
[08:11] <andrew_46> share: One last try: mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau VIDEO.mkv
[08:11] <share> btw VLC has an option to use GPU
[08:11] <share> but it's using cpu too much
[08:12] <share> andrew_46: -vc doesnt exist
[08:13] <andrew_46> share: ffh264vdpau does not exist?
[08:14] <share> andrew_46: how can I fast forward the video
[08:15] <andrew_46> share: right arrow key will jump
[08:15] <share> maybe the GPU is weak?
[08:15] <share> but why would the player use 100% of cpu core
[08:15] <share> :P
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> hi
[08:16] <andrew_46> share: I am not sure what to suggest, there is a nice guide on he forums for building a newer version
[08:16] <share> andrew_46: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo#Table_of_PureVideo_.28HD.29_GPUs mine is GTS 250
[08:17] <share> it's not listed there
[08:17] <share> (thats for VLC)
[08:17] <andrew_46> share: perhaps you are in trouble then :(
[08:18] <share> andrew_46: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_250_us.html
[08:19] <pnorman_> I believe the GTS 250 supports H.264 decoding but the software side may not be there on linux.
[08:21] <share> :(
[08:22] <linuxcooldude> colloquy
[08:22] <andrew_46> share: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.18/README/supportedchips.html
[08:22] <share> it's listed
[08:23] <andrew_46> share: but check out the A and B sections
[08:23] <share> andrew_46: so, do I have to use the drivers from the website?
[08:24] <andrew_46> share: NVidia drivers are not my area I am afraid but someone here will know
[08:24] <pnorman_> andrew_46: A looks like it'd support H.264 which is the most common format for HD videos
[08:24] <maum> how can I install moonlight on firefox 8.0
[08:25] <somsip> maum: what version of ubuntu?
[08:25] <maum> 11.10
[08:25] <andrew_46> pnorman_: share's video is in fact h.264: http://pastebin.com/kmzVRH70 and the vdpau driver loads without error
[08:26] <maum> somsip, I couldn't install moonlight it's not compatible with firefox 8.0
[08:27] <somsip> maum: maybe you need to install Chromium and use that plugin. It still appears to be available
[08:27] <share> maum: #firefox
[08:28] <somsip> maum: or build from source. Could be fun... http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[08:28] <share> my Ubuntu is using nvidia driver version 260.19.06
[08:29] <share> website provides 290.10 Certified
[08:29] <share> o.o
[08:29] <antony_> Hello All, I have installed ubunutu 11.10 in my latop. Also installed lot of sotwares. Is there a way to take a image of that? like live cd ?
[08:29] <somsip> !backup | antony_
[08:29] <pnorman_> !sbackup
[08:30] <antony_> thanks .. i will try out
[08:30] <maum> somsip, ok I see
[08:31] <andrew_46> share: sorry I can't help with driver, no experience at all there :(
[08:32] <share> ah andrew_46 -vc <missing>
[08:32] <share> :P
[08:33] <share> andrew_46: it's slow
[08:34] <andrew_46> share: I presume you have this: sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 ?
[08:34] <share> yep
[08:35] <andrew_46> share: last idea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542240