[00:00] <andreas_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540201
[00:00] <arthurdent> Guest57856: pick a username that isn't unavailable
[00:00] <am27> thanks
[00:03] <hibernatehelp> yo
[00:03] <hibernatehelp> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop but the hibernate is missing, how do I enable it??
[00:03] <TJ-> andreas_: And now can you post "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[00:04] <hibernatehelp> it is ubuntu 14.04 lts
[00:05] <hibernatehelp> also the screen brightness slider doesn't do anything
[00:05] <andreas_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540233
[00:06] <aladin> Hey thankks guys im into the php channel now
[00:06] <TJ-> andreas_: Bashing-om "[   17.865276] init: gdm main process (1013) killed by TERM signal" ... and there are other TERMS of other services earlier
[00:07] <nial74> hibernatehelp: pm-suspend?
[00:07] <agspy1> Alright. I have a question that is probably extremely simple, but its not easy for me. .-.
[00:07] <arthurdent> lol
[00:07] <arthurdent> that might have worked
[00:08] <TJ-> andreas_: Now show us "tail -n 5000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[00:08] <agspy1> Anyone good with windows 8?
[00:09] <bekks> agspy1: Ask ##windows
[00:09] <andreas_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540246
[00:10] <agspy1> My windows will NOT boot off of my disc. Whatsoever. Went into my BIOS menu and changed the boot priorities, and nothing came of it. Any ideas?
[00:11] <nial74> agspy1: What has this to do with Ubuntu? Did you install it?
[00:11] <arthurdent> agspy1: this is #ubuntu
[00:11] <TJ-> andreas_: THat's very helpful, it identifies an issue with the drivers, bear with me
[00:11] <agspy1> My bad. I didnt mean my windows. My computer wont boot my ubuntu disc. (I shouldve prolly said that before)
[00:11] <andreas_> TJ: not a problem
[00:13] <lenswipe> Logan_, they named an airport after you :)
[00:13] <beardtree> Is there any way to reset internet?
[00:13] <beardtree> sudo service networking restart kills x
[00:13] <agspy1> No one? :c
[00:15] <Sachiru> What linux filesystem supports transparent compression?
[00:15] <TJ-> andreas_: Bashing-om I'm looking at "[   18.049873] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x23:0x2f:682)" in syslog
[00:16] <raub> andreas_: errors?
[00:16] <andreas_> raub: with what exactly lol take your pick
[00:16] <raub> andreas_: NVM, that was for agspy1:
[00:16] <andreas_> raub: oh lol oops
[00:17] <raub> beardtree: what do you mean by killing X?
[00:17] <nashant> Hi, I have 2 gpus in my system. Is there a way to tell ubuntu which to use?
[00:17] <agspy1> raub I am not getting any errors. It just wont boot off of the disc. It will only boot my windows 8.
[00:18] <Phlyrox> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu 14 from within windows 7? I do not have a cd/usb i can use atm.
[00:18] <raub> Phlyrox: from within? As in a vm?
[00:18] <Phlyrox> not as vm,
[00:18] <Bashing-om> andreas_: TJ- Dogs lit up outside, had to go see what had them disturbed. playing catch up.
[00:19] <Gallomimia> agspy1: usually you need to get your bios to accept a boot drive other than your OS
[00:19] <Phlyrox> i still want to dual boot. i would of liked to use wubi but i noticed it is no longer supported
[00:19] <TJ-> Bashing-om: See line 4826 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540246/
[00:20] <Phlyrox> i have already looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[00:20] <agspy1> I once tried ubuntu before. But I cant remember if it was while I had windows 7 or 8. I think this may by my first time booting off of something other than my normal OS.
[00:21] <Phlyrox> however it seems that the page is outdated
[00:22] <Gallomimia> agspy1: do you know if this disk will boot on another computer yet?
[00:22] <agspy1> I dont own or have open access to any others.
[00:22] <Gallomimia> cause that can cause a different set of problems than your computer not booting off this disk
[00:22] <Gallomimia> where'd you get the disc?
[00:23] <agspy1> A normal blank DVD that was burned with the extracted .iso files.
[00:23] <Gallomimia> k. pretty tough to know which problem to try addressing. do you have any other dvd's that can boot the computer?
[00:24] <Gallomimia> windows disc, rescue... hardware test... password cracker.
[00:25] <agspy1> The only other thing I can do is make the EXACT same thing, and try to run it. The only problem I have is I only have about 1 more disc, and I would like to not use it.
[00:25] <Sachiru> Anyone using ZFS on Linux for production on limited systems? How much RAM is the minimum requirements for it? Somehow I can't find that in the documentation.
[00:25] <bitblt> why would canonical ship a cobbler package in trusty that can't even recognize trusty?
[00:25] <Gallomimia> well you got a problem then. cause you don't even know if you made the disc right and you have nothing else to test for bootability
[00:26] <TJ-> andreas_: Bashing-om OK, I think I see why that error happened. The *wrong* version of the nvidia proprietary driver is installed. The legacy driver is installed, but the installed device needs the current driver, version 331   "NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  173.14.39"
[00:26] <Gallomimia> there's two things that can cause the disc not to boot. one is that it hasn't been made properly, with boot flag and so forth. (i use usb sticks myself) and two is that your computer is setup to allow booting from dvd's. you don't know the answer to either, nor do you have equipment to test for it
[00:27] <OerHeks> Sachiru,  "If the deduplication feature is used, a general rule of thumb is 5GB of RAM per TB of storage" https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html
[00:27] <agspy1> I dont see how I could make it wrong. I downloaded the iso off of the ubuntu website. I extracted all the files, burned them onto a disk, went into my BIOS, changed the priorities to boot off of a disc as top, and it doesnt even think about it.
[00:28] <Gallomimia> nope. that's not right
[00:28] <agspy1> What isnt right.
[00:28] <Gallomimia> don't extract the files. burn the iso as is
[00:28] <agspy1> I am going to do that. And if it doesnt work, I will be back in here.
[00:29] <Gallomimia> we'll expect you i guess. staying here to talk more would be smarter...
[00:29] <Sachiru> Nah
[00:29] <Sachiru> No intention to dedupe
[00:29] <Sachiru> Just bare needs
[00:29] <Sachiru> I do intend to compress though
[00:29] <OerHeks> Sachiru, then 1 gb/tb storage
[00:30] <TJ-> andreas_: Can you show us "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*' | pastebinit" ?
[00:30] <Phlyrox> come back to say thanks when it works
[00:30] <andreas_> TJ: yerp.
[00:31] <andreas_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540323
[00:32] <Sachiru> Ok.
[00:32] <Sachiru> Is that 1GB including OS, or just for ZFS needs?
[00:33] <OerHeks> that would be ex OS
[00:35] <Logan_> lenswipe: isn't that brilliant?
[00:36] <Sachiru> Ok
[00:36] <tsEliot> hey so I'm partitioning a win7 hard drive to use ubuntu and I have four partitions that came with the laptop I'm using. I have SYSTEM_DRV and Windows 7, which I'm fairly confident are important, and I have a Lenovo and Lenovo_PART partitions. Does anyone know how I can combine these or get rid of one so I can have another partition?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> TJ-: -> we had previously "removed" the Nvidia driver ( thought so !) and installed the nouveau driver. looks like I did not do my work very well.
[00:41] <TJ-> andreas_: Sorry, I got side-tracked. Just looked, that's helpful. Can you remind which version of Ubuntu that is ("cat /etc/issue") ?
[00:42] <TJ-> Bashing-om: looks like the legacy driver is still there, possibly a left-over from the mobo's on-board video which is BIOS-disabled?
[00:43] <agspy1> Look whos back. :)
[00:43] <TJ-> andreas_: "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-173 nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-common"
[00:44] <andreas_> TJ: um... did you mean my version of ubuntu or what the boot_image said from that command
[00:44] <andreas_> ok
[00:44] <TJ-> andreas_: "cat /etc/issue"
[00:44] <Bashing-om> TJ-: -> andreas_ Not to detract your mind, I am mistified why the Nvidia driver is still present, and as well why nouvuea is still blacklisted, will have to address these manually I recon.
[00:44] <lenswipe> Logan_, yes it is :)
[00:44] <lenswipe> Logan_, I fly there every christmas to see my FIancee
[00:44] <lenswipe> :D
[00:44] <agspy1> Gallomimia I am back,
[00:44] <TJ-> Bashing-om: which nvidia package did you delete originally?
[00:45] <Gallomimia> burned another disc?
[00:45] <Phlyrox> it didnt work?
[00:45] <agspy1> Yep. Burned it. without extracting the iso. Nada
[00:45] <Bashing-om> TJ-:  I "think" now maybe only nvidia-current .
[00:45] <TJ-> Bashing-om: that'd explain these legacy drivers remaining
[00:46] <andreas_> TJ: boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-63-generic
[00:47] <andreas_> Bashing-om: hey, whatever it takes, yeah?
[00:47] <agspy1> And I was right, That was my last disc.
[00:47] <TJ-> andreas_: That isn't the output of "cat /etc/issue" is it?
[00:48] <TJ-> andreas_: I'm expecting something like "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l"
[00:49] <andreas_> TJ: ok that last command finished and ended with "ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot" shall I do that?
[00:49] <Phlyrox> so is it possible to install ubuntu14 from within windows7 like wubi once did without having to use a cd/usb
[00:50] <andreas_> TJ: I'm not running 14.04 I'm running 12.04. paste.ubuntu.com/7540201 is the cat one
[00:51] <TJ-> andreas_: thanks, I just wanted to be sure :)
[00:51] <andreas_> should I reboot?
[00:51] <TJ-> andreas_: not yet, no.
[00:51] <andreas_> TJ: ok
[00:51] <andreas_> TJ: glad I asked lol
[00:52] <TJ-> Bashing-om can you take andreas_ through the removal of "blacklist nouveau" entries whilst I research the motherboard in detail?
[00:52] <matty> Hello I am running ubuntu 13.10 on a Dell, I can watch Amazon Prime video but if I switch tabs, the video goes blank and only audio works, what can I do? I tried restarting
[00:52] <TJ-> andreas_: As I understand it, this is the motherboard:  http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1801_2.html
[00:53] <andreas_> TJ: that's the one
[00:53] <agspy1> No one?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> TJ-: an yeah .. I want to do it hands on .. show us -> ls -la /etc/modprobe.d | pastebinit <-.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> andreas_: ^^
[00:54] <andreas_> k
[00:55] <agspy1> Alright, thanks for ignoring me. I guess I wasted my time here.
[00:55] <andreas_> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7540473
[00:55] <TJ-> andreas_: whilst you're pastebinning, can you do "sudo lspci -nnvvv | pastebinit" for me, pretty-please :) ?
[00:55] <andreas_> TJ: not a problem }:)
[00:56] <andreas_> TJ: paste.ubuntu.com/7540474
[00:57] <Bashing-om> andreas_: look'n at 7540473 .
[00:58] <andreas_> where do you change your username on here I've been trying to find it lol
[00:59] <Phlyrox> no idea
[00:59] <TJ-> andreas_: Thanks. That tells me that at some point in the past, you disabled the motherboard's internal GeForce 8200  graphics chipset and only used the external, PCIe, adapter, is that correct?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> andreas_: All I see of interest presently is the 1 file -> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | pastebinit <- .
[01:00] <Gallomimia> username on the chat or on the paste.ubuntu.com site?
[01:00] <andreas_> TJ: yes, because it was not displaying and I remember the first card was having trouble because of it. once I did that everything was fine
[01:00] <TJ-> andreas_: OK, I'm just ensuring that my reading of the info you provide matches reality :)
[01:00] <TJ-> andreas_: gives us more confidence in recommending changes
[01:01] <andreas_> TJ: bitchin~
[01:02] <TJ-> Bashing-om: an aside: I suspect that this may have been why the 'correct' nvidia driver (version 3xx) failed because the older kernel version was loading first. I think it'd be high probability that now andreas has removed those older legacy drivers, re-installing the nvidia-3xx version would give him a fully working, 3D accelerated, system
[01:03] <hibernateme> how do you enable hibernation in ubuntu 14.04?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> TJ-: You recommend the proprietary driver over nouveau ? .. I persoanally have had the better results from open source drivers ( non-gameing) .
[01:04] <TJ-> hibernateme: If I recall correctly, hibernation option was removed because of many problems, so most systems only have access to suspend/resume. I believe there are hibernation solutions that will work though.
[01:05] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I've never had a problem with latest nvidia drivers; I'm using v337.68 here now, on a laptop, with 3 nvidia GPUs
[01:06] <andreas_> gallomimia: the chat. sorry, I didn't see anyone had replied to that, I'm like in 3 places at once lol
[01:06] <Gallomimia> yeah
[01:06] <Bashing-om> TJ-: andreas_  Nothing says we can not try the Nvidia driver and see what results, no need then to non-blacklist nouveau .
[01:07] <Gallomimia> to change username in chat its simple /nick newname
[01:07] <Phlyrox> so from the lack of response, I assume no one knows i maybe able to install ubuntu without a cd or usb?
[01:07] <hibernateme> how do you enable hibernation in ubuntu 14.04?
[01:07] <TJ-> Bashing-om: it looks like precise-updates has 331.38 with package "nvidia-331-updates" from restricted
[01:07] <andreas_> omg that damn simple lol ok, thanks much
[01:08] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I don't disagree with testing with the nouveau driver first though, if you want to go ahead with that. It would give us some good confirmation the card itself works!
[01:08] <TJ-> Phlyrox: you could via a PXE boot, but you'd need to set up a PXE/bootp/NFS environment for it
[01:08] <andreas_> TJ: well, the card must work to some degree, since it's being used to do all this so far lol
[01:09] <debian_dog> Phlyrox: there is a way usung unetbootin
[01:09] <Phlyrox> TJ-, thanks. ill look into it
[01:10] <debian_dog> google it os go to unetbootin, I believe instead of extracting iso to usb, use a partition instead, and then reboot/select from grub menu
[01:10] <Phlyrox> debian_dog, ill also look into that. thanks
[01:10] <TJ-> andreas_: I was meaning for 2D/3D graphics :p
[01:10] <Vivekananda> hey everyone lenovo t61 running ubntu 12.04. today suddenly for some reason my laptop is stuck at 1.2 ghz speed although max is 2.1 . It is not going any higher and I was hoping to find out why
[01:11] <andreas_> TJ: lol yeah Iknow
[01:11] <andreas_> I'm not fixing that
[01:12] <seer-of-void> ahh much better
[01:12] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Better warn Bashing-om !
[01:13] <Sachiru> Query: Is it possible to limit ZRAM on the system?
[01:13] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: it's andreas, I changed my name  just so you know
[01:13] <Sachiru> Specifically set ZRAM to 1/2GB instead of some percentage?
[01:13] <duckchat> HP Pavillion 2004 32-bit trying to install 14.04.  cd runs until the point where it will setup the graphics and show desktop, etc.  screen goes blank.  runs for a while and quits.  nothing.
[01:14] <Bashing-om> andreas_:/ seer-of-void > TJ- May be real happy with the performance of the Nvidia driver. only takes a moment -> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates <- see what happens.
[01:15]  * TJ- nods at Bashing-om
[01:15] <ianorlin> duckhat how much ram?
[01:15] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: k doin it now
[01:15] <ianorlin> !md5 |duckchat if the install is bad
[01:16] <Vivekananda> anyone any clues
[01:16] <Vivekananda> ?
[01:17] <duckchat> ianorlin: I will check the ram.  only one slot filled.
[01:17] <_2_ana> hello:'(
[01:18] <duckchat> btw, 12.10 runs fine.
[01:18] <duckchat> good idea to check the install and i will.
[01:18] <_2_ana> fjsklakdkek
[01:18] <_2_ana> :)
[01:18] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: it finished
[01:18] <_2_ana> yesss
[01:21] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: I'm torn on how to see what we have, best course I think is reboot -> sudo shutdown -r now <-.
[01:21] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: welp. let's see.
[01:21] <Megabyte> Guys, what is the manual channel of Ubuntu again?
[01:22] <_2_ana> hdjskslsjdhdhsux:'(:D(L):)
[01:22]  * TJ- prepares the birthday cake
[01:22] <seer-of-void> YOU GUYS
[01:22] <seer-of-void> I HAVE A CURSOR AGAIN
[01:22] <_2_ana> hkdkajshjajs
[01:23] <Megabyte> Hello?...
[01:23] <_2_ana> hello
[01:23] <seer-of-void> JESUS IN A TRAINING BRA, I COULD KISS YOU BOTH
[01:23] <rww> _2_ana: something we can help you with today?
[01:23] <_2_ana> (L)
[01:23] <Megabyte> Guys, do you know what is the irc channel of Ubuntu's instruction manual?
[01:23] <rww> Megabyte: which instruction manual?
[01:23] <_2_ana> noo thanks
[01:23] <rww> _2_ana: then please be quiet and keep the channel clear for support, thanks
[01:23] <Megabyte> rww, its User's Guide
[01:23] <Megabyte> www.ubuntumanual.org
[01:24] <Megabyte> If memory serves me right
[01:24] <_2_ana> ;)
[01:24] <rww> Megabyte: https://ubuntu-manual.org/ is at #ubuntu-manual
[01:24] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: TJ: *mwah* god I've missed my computer. t h a n k y o u both
[01:25]  * TJ- hands out slices of birthday cake
[01:25] <Sway> ._.
[01:25] <Ranieri_> We're such a cute family... #ubuntu
[01:26] <Ranieri_> We got the hot guy (me), the brainiac(TJ-) and the down-to-earth guy(Sway)
[01:27] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Great ! you do good work, ya want to tackle that hard drive now ? - I need to be away for a short to take casre of my dogs.
[01:27] <Bashing-om> *care
[01:27] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: if it's not too much. already kept you on here for what, 5 hours now?
[01:28] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: what kind of dogs
[01:28] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: I am a grown man, If I did not want to, I would not, I will be back shortly.
[01:29] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: nothing to do with age lol just makin sure, I like to be considerate
[01:29] <gartral> what's going on with the Ubuntu-Studio channel, I can't join it
[01:30] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Now-a-days they have been relegated to yard/watch dogs. Bassett hound, bull dog and 3 little yappers.
[01:31] <TJ-> Bashing-om: 2 Siberian Huskies here... slouched asleep in the study behind me!
[01:32] <jetpilotx> i need help canhelp me?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Nothing like the love and devotion of our "man's best friend" .
[01:33] <TJ-> Bashing-om: they're Huskies they have no loyalty! They run off on 10 seconds notice :) Luckily I'm on a large farm so I can intercept them before they leave the grounds
[01:34] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: TJ: I'm a cat person, myself. but there are a few dog breeds that I love
[01:35] <Gallomimia> oh help. i'm having problems using a keyboard at all within any installer after having some bios hiccups. something must be set wrong
[01:35] <TJ-> Gallomimia: Is it a USB keyboard?
[01:35] <Gallomimia> it is
[01:36] <lenswipe> hey guys
[01:36] <lenswipe> installing ubuntu server
[01:36] <lenswipe> i got past the keyboard detection bit
[01:36] <lenswipe> now i just have a purple screen
[01:36] <Gallomimia> nothing on it?
[01:36] <lenswipe> i pressed enter a few times and it filled up with light grey
[01:36] <lenswipe> want a pic?
[01:37] <Gallomimia> its not hard to imagine. just trying to figure out the problem
[01:38] <Gallomimia> did you check the hash of the file before making install media?
[01:38] <lenswipe> no
[01:38] <Gallomimia> i never do that either ;)
[01:38] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, this machine doesn't have an internet connection could that be related?
[01:38] <TJ-> Gallomimia: in the BIOS settings, ensure that "legacy USB" or similar is enabled. Otherwise, the BIOS leaves it to the booted OS... which means the boot-loader and won't have keyboard. If a full kernel starts then that *should* load the correct USB HID drivers though
[01:38] <lenswipe> TJ-, the keyboard works perfectly (PS/2 keyboard)
[01:39] <Gallomimia> it doesn't have a full kernel working at this point. installers only
[01:39] <Gallomimia> lenswipe: he's telling me about keyboard problems
[01:39] <lenswipe> oh
[01:39] <Gallomimia> TJ-: i've fiddled with that setting a lot, and i'm seeing no benefit so far. i'll try some more. i think it's my settings of legacy only or uefi only
[01:39] <TJ-> Gallomimia: OK, I've seen that happen alot... reboot into BIOS settings... do a "load factory defaults", look for and check that "legacy USB" (or whatever it is called) is enabled, make any custom changes you know you need, save the settings, and reboot.
[01:40] <Gallomimia> everything runs ontop of bios, and i have done nothing with mine. not even update it :(
[01:40] <TJ-> Gallomimia: I think the important step, often, is to reload default settings... it seems sometimes the NVRAM config gets corrupted and sets some 'bits' it ought not
[01:40] <Gallomimia> TJ-: so far the field is not titled "custom changes i know i need" it's called "custom changes i think i need"
[01:40] <TJ-> Gallomimia: :)
[01:41] <Gallomimia> yeah that's what's happened. i got a couple messages saying its reloading bios settings from a backup bios, and soon it will boot. i dunno what's changed
[01:41] <Gallomimia> ah. "load optimised defaults"
[01:42] <Gallomimia> the part i get confused with is xhci and ehci hand-off support. looking them up made the problem worse
[01:44] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, imgur.com/0m0yx6R
[01:45] <Gallomimia> lenswipe: as i said its easy to imagine. it's not easy to figure out whats wrong
[01:45] <Gallomimia> the only thing i can suggest is that the install media is broken somehow
[01:46] <Gallomimia> TJ-: trying the desktop livecd gives me a blackscreen now
[01:46] <Gallomimia> i had it working with this hardware setup before
[01:47] <Gallomimia> and i did not try nomodeset
[01:47] <TJ-> Gallomimia: Hmmm!
[01:48] <Gallomimia> odd this yes. legacyopcode or efi?
[01:48] <Gallomimia> the hardware has changed since last i had this system running
[01:49] <TJ-> Gallomimia: I prefer EFI, especially if you plan on a multi-boot setup
[01:49] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, right, i might re-download and install
[01:49] <brontos_> Any body else have issues with Chromium being very large in ubuntu?
[01:49] <Gallomimia> lenswipe: you can double check the hash of the file you downloaded
[01:50] <lenswipe> yh
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> brontos_, Can you define what is large, to the channel.
[01:51] <lenswipe> Gallomimia, it started working again before i got the chance to shut it down
[01:51] <lenswipe> well who kne
[01:51] <lenswipe> knew
[01:51] <Gallomimia> oh well :)
[01:51] <Gallomimia> now i have blackscreen. does any key work?
[01:51] <brontos_> wilee-nilee, The UI is very large compared to all the other apps.  I almost looks like it is displayed at 800x600 resolution.  I can zoom out of the html but not the browser
[01:52] <alfonsojon> Hi
[01:52] <brontos_> wilee-nilee, All other apps look normal
[01:52] <alfonsojon> I'm using Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 14.04 and it's painfully slow
[01:52] <ashley_> hi guys.
[01:52] <alfonsojon> I already went through the usual runaround of disabling plugins & addons
[01:52] <ashley_> i was wondering if anyone can assist?
[01:52] <Gallomimia> !ask
[01:53] <ashley_> alright so i have a pentium D 2GB ram machine and i just put the latest xubuntu, did all the updates but it appears to be sluggish and crashing alot.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Check your hard drive.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> It might be on the verge of failing. I once installed Xubuntu on an old Pentium machine and it ran great at first, only to suddenly become sluggish, slow, and crashy.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> When I checked the HDD with Disks, I found that it had over 200 bad sectors (not good) and that it was failing
[01:56] <JoobusJones> Hey, I've got a graphics issue making my screen be solid black before login. I can't get GRUB to appear, even holding shift at startup, tried USB and PS/2 keyboards. I know it isn't a hardware issue because Windows is working fine.
[01:56] <ashley_> what about it exactly? Its a new 80gb and it was running fine on win vista (slow for obvious reasons) but it ran ok. :/  i'll check it and see the hdd health just incase.
[01:56] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: btw I added you to the friend list, I hope you don't mind. you were just extremely nice and helpful~
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> brontos_, Not me to the channel, more details was the issue. ;)
[02:00] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Can't hurt to check.
[02:00] <alfonsojon> If it continues acting up, I suggest checking your graphics drivers
[02:01] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Looks like I just got back in time to accept that "friends list", OK, Hard drive not recognized. 1st to identify that hard drive -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- with out the drive connected.
[02:02] <ashley_> @Alfonso how do i update to the most recent drivers on linux? sorry im a newbie
[02:03] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: ok. this will be on this computer, btw.
[02:03] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: All of us ubuntu people are nice sorts, TJ- sure was a great help.
[02:04] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: yes he sure was. what was the package to install pastebin again?
[02:05] <seer-of-void> nvm I got it
[02:05] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .
[02:05] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: yeah, I remembered it right after I asked lol
[02:06] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7540756
[02:07] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: look'n /7540756 .
[02:07] <allen> evening folks
[02:08] <JoobusJones> What steps should I try to troubleshoot a failed boot if I can't get into grub, and all I get is a black screen?
[02:08] <jianhe> 14.04, how can I remove window decoration for specified application?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, This a fresh install?
[02:09] <JoobusJones> It was installed when 14.04 came out, so no.
[02:09] <allen> Synaptic Manager is in the repository for Ubuntu, so is it save to install stuff using it as well?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: OK, So far there is but the one hard drive installed into that box, lets see what the system sees when the external drive is connected, Connect the drive and -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- once more.
[02:09] <JoobusJones> Things were fine, then a kernel update came out that broke my system I think
[02:09] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: k let me go get it
[02:10] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Is there a way to temporarily specify a second /etc/fstab?
[02:10] <TJ-> seer-of-void: WAIT!!!!
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Any clue on your part. WE just had a kernel upgrade, if you are running proprietary graphics, they do not follow this upgrade.
[02:10] <seer-of-void> TJ: hrm?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Use nicks here as well, I don't just stare at the screen waiting for your answer, this is free help. ;)
[02:11] <TJ-> seer-of-void: *before* you connect the drive, in the terminal, run "tail -n0 -f /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/kern.log" .... plug in the disk drive... let the kernel messages stop scrolling, press Ctrl+C to stop the 'tail',  then "pastebinit /tmp/kern.log"
[02:12] <Sachiru> Anyone know how to configure memory limits for ZRAM on ubuntu? There's nothing in the official documentations and if there's anything on the forums about it 2 hours of googling apparently isn't enough.
[02:12] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok, sec
[02:12] <TJ-> seer-of-void: that'll let us know what is happening on the driver level
[02:12] <seer-of-void> ok }:)
[02:12] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Oh sorry
[02:12] <JoobusJ> wilee-nilee, sorry, was on my phone which made it difficult to respond
[02:12] <alfonsojon> I was on another channel
[02:12] <ashley_> its ok
[02:12] <alfonsojon> You're on Xubuntu, correct?
[02:12] <ashley_> correct
[02:13] <alfonsojon> 14.04?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> TJ-: seer-of-void Sure has a way of cutting directly do the bone, do he not ?
[02:13] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, I'm running proprietary AMD drivers, and I'd revert to the FOSS Radeon drivers if I could get into a shell
[02:13] <ashley_> yes
[02:13] <alfonsojon> Alright
[02:13] <JoobusJones> Holding shift doesn't get me into GRUB though, trying both USB and PS/2 keyboards.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Have you adjusted the grub timeout?
[02:14] <alfonsojon> Go to the menu
[02:14] <alfonsojon> Then open the settings
[02:14] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, I can't even get into a place where I can adjust that; it's whatever the default is. Even if I hold shift from the second my BIOS start loading I can't get in
[02:14] <alfonsojon> In the settings, look for "Software & Updates"
[02:14] <TJ-> JoobusJones: is the keyboard USB?
[02:14] <JoobusJones> TJ-, I've tried both USB and PS/2 keyboards
[02:14] <JoobusJones> Had issues like that in the past, so now I keep a PS/2 keyboard around
[02:14] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: why, whatever do you mean
[02:15] <ashley_> ok got it
[02:15] <TJ-> JoobusJones: I've found on some systems, you have to repeatedly tap the Shift key for it to be detected - don't understand why, since the keyboard controller is supposed to set a bit when the shift key is down and leave it that way!
[02:15] <alfonsojon> then go to the "Additional Drivers" tab
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, If it is booting you can use a tty, power on wait about the time it took to get to the login than ctrl-alt-f1 login and doo the voodoo you need t do.
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> to*
[02:15] <alfonsojon> It should tell you if any proprietary drivers are available
[02:15] <alfonsojon> If it's empty, then you don't have any driver updates.
[02:15] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: I just admire the style .. direct and to the point.. to KNOW what is going on at the hardware level.
[02:16] <ashley_> ok. seems to say "No drivers available" :(
[02:16] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Is your system up to date?
[02:16] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, Will that give me a shell?
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, Yes
[02:16] <JoobusJones> Fantastic.
[02:16] <ashley_> what do you mean by up to date? i did do sudo apt-get update.
[02:16] <JoobusJones> I came to Ubuntu from Fedora, which has the GRUB menu show up by default, even with only one OS installed
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, TJ- has a good point on the tapping.
[02:16] <alfonsojon> ashley_: After that, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <JoobusJones> wilee-nilee, I'll give that a try, both cases, and I'll get back to you
[02:17] <alfonsojon> If you don't want to use the terminal, you can use "Software Updater"
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:17] <alfonsojon> It's in your applications
[02:17] <Speiros> Is there a method of editing my android phone through any packages on Ubuntu?
[02:17] <ashley_> ok just did it
[02:17] <ashley_> nothing new thou
[02:17] <resno> Speiros: editing like what?
[02:17] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Well, when stuff crashes
[02:17] <alfonsojon> Can you tell me what exactly crashes?
[02:17] <Speiros> resno I'd like to remove the pre-installed apps, such as facebook.
[02:18] <ashley_> its usually only fireforx
[02:18] <alfonsojon> ah.
[02:18] <ashley_> fox*
[02:18] <Speiros> resno also turning off the camera "click" sound
[02:18] <ashley_> but, it freezes the whole computer
[02:18] <alfonsojon> Firefox runs like crap for me too, so it might be a Firefox problem
[02:18] <resno> Speiros: sure if you root it, etc. this is not an ubuntu question though
[02:18] <alfonsojon> I have a Core 2 Quad & 8GB DDR3 RAM
[02:18] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: it's a specialty of mine to be as clear as possible~
[02:18] <alfonsojon> So it should run fine
[02:18] <ashley_> ahh okay, i'll try another browser and see if that works.
[02:18] <alfonsojon> But it doesn't
[02:18] <resno> Speiros: the same tools that windows users have linux has always
[02:18] <alfonsojon> Try Midori if you don't mind third-party browsers.
[02:19] <alfonsojon> It's a little unheard of, but it's a fast and feature packed little browser.
[02:19] <Speiros> resno Ok, any suggestions where to go? I'm very useless with this kind of thing.
[02:19] <TJ-> Speiros: Install the Android SDK Tools and use things like "adb"  see http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/tools-notes.html
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> Speiros, Have you been to #android ?
[02:19] <resno> #android would be a great starting place
[02:19] <Speiros> TJ- Thanks, I'll try that.
[02:20] <resno> and i would suggest researching what you're intending to do.. its possible to brick you phone Speiros
[02:20] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: That too is an admirable trait, I an sadly lacking in my communications skills. Something I do try and work on.
[02:20] <Speiros> wilee-nilee Yes, but it was another program to download to my phone when I can't find the first one
[02:20] <Speiros> resno what does bricking it mean?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> Speiros, That us a IRC channel
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> is*
[02:20] <resno> Speiros: bricking means, to turn your phone into a brick, aka make it useless
[02:20] <Speiros> resno lol Okay, thanks
[02:20] <lenswipe> hey guys
[02:20] <Speiros> It's almost one already...it'll be a shattered brick soon.
[02:21] <lenswipe> when i installed ubuntu and it asked to configure the network I said "No."
[02:21] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: well thus far you've done well
[02:21] <lenswipe> is there a way to undo that
[02:21] <resno> Speiros: so read guides througjly and stuff. so have fun. and thats all from us :)
[02:21] <lenswipe> i looked in ifconfig and its only showing lo
[02:21] <Speiros> Ok, thanks for your help folks
[02:21] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: TJ: ok I feel like I may or may not have missed something, so just take this & tell me what's what. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540846/
[02:21] <lenswipe> anyone?
[02:21] <resno> lenswipe: youll need to add some stuff to your network config
[02:22] <resno> lenswipe: you going dhcp i suppose?
[02:22] <lenswipe> resno, okay, what and where
[02:22] <lenswipe> and yes
[02:22] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Look'n at 7540846 .
[02:22] <lenswipe> resno, it bothers me that nothing except loopback is showing up in ifconfig
[02:22] <ashley_> just crashed
[02:22]  * DoMPatoneS clear
[02:23] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: Nope, same same as the 'fdisk -lu' output. try again .
[02:23] <resno> lenswipe: if you dont configure the network, what would you expect to show up?
[02:23] <resno> it did as you asked
[02:24] <TJ-> seer-of-void: did you also manage to capture the kern.log output?
[02:25] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: tj said to run that one tail command and something about when the lines stop running or something but when I ran it, it was doing something but it wasn't showing that it was aside from not having the command line again
[02:25] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: so I'm wondering if that's supposed to happen or if I just misunderstood something
[02:25] <alfonsojon> ashley_: Strange.
[02:25] <ashley_> @alfonso idk whats wrong everything just seems very slow
[02:25] <ashley_> like the way windows move, the menu opening etc
[02:26] <lenswipe> resno, fair enough i suppose
[02:26] <lenswipe> resno, i added auto inhet eth0 to my config file and it seems to be working
[02:26] <lenswipe> its doing dhcp discover anyway
[02:26] <lenswipe> :)
[02:26] <resno> lenswipe: ya, i was looking for the config file, and its not were i expected it
[02:27] <lenswipe> resno, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[02:27] <resno> so i was slightly lost :(
[02:27] <lenswipe> i just did that
[02:27] <resno> oh, 10.04
[02:27] <lenswipe> specifically
[02:27] <lenswipe> auto eth0
[02:27] <lenswipe> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:27] <lenswipe> followed by sudo ifup eth0
[02:27] <resno> i think its different in 14.04
[02:27] <lenswipe> oh really?
[02:27] <lenswipe> im on 14.04
[02:27] <resno> seems like it to me
[02:27] <lenswipe> but that seems to be working
[02:27] <lenswipe> :/
[02:27] <resno> what version you using?
[02:27] <lenswipe> its doing lots of dhcpdiscovers though
[02:27] <lenswipe> resno, 14.04
[02:27] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: What we are doing is trying to capture the content of the action to a file "kern.log" and relay that file to us.
[02:28] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Did you press Ctrl+C to stop the 'tail' ? If so, check if the log was captured by doing "ls -l /tmp/kern.log" and checking the size in bytes... it should be non-zero
[02:28] <JoobusJones> Fantastic, thanks for the help, wilee-nilee!
[02:29] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok hang on I'll just do it again
[02:29] <JoobusJones> I was able to restore my old xorg.conf and get rid of fgrlx via command line, I'll be putting ctrl+alt+F1 in my long term memory alongside REISUB
[02:29] <TJ-> seer-of-void: if the file is 0 bytes or doesn't exist, we'll have to do it the hard way, just do "tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[02:29] <seer-of-void> TJ: I press ctrl+c  after I plug it in?
[02:29] <resno> lenswipe: so the wierd thing is, i have loopback only there too
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, that is weird
[02:30] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Only press Ctrl+C once the messages have stopped scrolling... Ctrl+C is the 'break' key that stops the command and returns you to the command line
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, well eth0 is in my config
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, or rather, its appearing in my ifconfig now
[02:30] <lenswipe> but it has no IP :
[02:30] <lenswipe> :/
[02:30] <resno> its all good then
[02:30] <alfonsojon> ashley_: I have an option for you
[02:30] <alfonsojon> It might not fix your problem entirely, but it should help
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, except it cant get an IP
[02:30] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok but what I was saying before was that there wasn't anything scrolling when I did it that first time. I'll do it again now & see if there is anything
[02:30] <lenswipe> resno, it just sits there sending out DHCPDISCOVER requests
[02:30] <resno> do a down then an up
[02:30] <lenswipe> okay
[02:31] <lenswipe> resno, DHCPDISCOVER
[02:31] <TJ-> seer-of-void: OK... that tells us that nothing happened then!
[02:31] <lenswipe> ...and again
[02:31] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Are you connecting the drive via USB?
[02:31] <alfonsojon> Open settings, then go to "Window Manager Tweaks"
[02:31] <lenswipe> loads more
[02:31] <alfonsojon> Uncheck "Enable display compositing"
[02:31] <seer-of-void> TJ: if you mean generally, yes. if you mean did I yet, I just did now
[02:32] <seer-of-void> TJ: no scrolling yet
[02:32] <TJ-> seer-of-void: You'd expect to see about 10-20 lines from the kernel as it discovers and configures the device
[02:33] <lenswipe> resno, still DHCPDISCOVER
[02:33] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Is the device a USB external hard drive? can you tell us the make/model?
[02:33] <lenswipe> resno, this machine has 3 network cards
[02:34] <resno> do you know which one is connected for usre?
[02:35] <seer-of-void> TJ: it's technically an internal rigged to--AH! we have messages
[02:35] <lenswipe> resno, is there a way to check what hardware eth0 is bound to?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> JoobusJones, no problem.
[02:35] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok a bunch of messages scrolled, I press ctrl+c now yes?
[02:35] <resno> lenswipe: sure, i dont konw how tho
[02:36] <resno> lenswipe: maybe lspci might help
[02:36] <wynn_> what is the package for kernel headers?
[02:37] <lenswipe> resno, just got No working leases in persistant database - sleeping
[02:37] <TJ-> seer-of-void: Yes
[02:38] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok and you wanted the readout of which command again?
[02:40] <knob> Hey guys... got an odd question:   I have WordPress installed.   I have a plugin that provides sftp uploads.   I created a user account, and I'm able to ssh into the box with this user account.      Yet when I provide the login details to the plugin, it throws an error.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> seer-of-void: did you - before pligging in the drive do terminal command -> "tail -n0 -f /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/kern.log <- .
[02:40] <TJ-> seer-of-void: "pastebinit /tmp/kern.log"
[02:40] <knob> The odd part is, that the plugin says username/password incorrect... yet when I check the   auth.log       , it actually logged in just fine.
[02:40] <seer-of-void> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7540919/
[02:40] <knob> It logs in, and within the second, logs out.           That's why it leads me to believe maybe it's an environment variable of the user I creatd?
[02:40] <knob> *created
[02:40] <seer-of-void> Bashing-om: yes
[02:41] <DoMPatoneS> you dont have the correct permissions on the foler tha tit logs into
[02:41] <knob> Any thoughts what I could be missing?
[02:41] <TJ-> lenswipe: "lshw -C net" will show you the hardware devices and their "logical name: ethX"
[02:41] <knob> DoMPatoneS, thanks!   What I did was    ... this new user, I added it to a new group.         Then I gave   chown newUser:newGroup directory/
[02:42] <DoMPatoneS> if you are chrooting the base folder needs to be owned by root
[02:42] <TJ-> seer-of-void: OK, those messages are from the wireless LAN rekeying
[02:42] <knob> So I *think* I'm goog?          Any idea what... Well, I'm a n00b at this.        Maybe the plugin gets sent to a
[02:42] <knob> oh
[02:42] <knob> googling chrooting now
[02:42] <TJ-> seer-of-void: So, tell us exactly what this hard drive is, and how it is connected to the system
[02:42] <lenswipe> TJ-, thank you
[02:42] <lenswipe> resno, i changed it
[02:43] <DoMPatoneS> the easiest way that i can think is chown the base folder to root and link the folder u need and chown to the user
[02:43] <knob> DoMPatoneS, ok... and link... a symlink of those?
[02:45] <SuperNoeMan> if I wanted to create my own software and put it on ubuntu repositories so that others could install it with apt-get
[02:45] <dog_> hi
[02:45] <SuperNoeMan> how would I do that?
[02:45] <dog_> when I change my brightness in system settings, it resets to max after a reboot. How can I fix this?
[02:45] <seer-of-void> TJ: it's basically an internal hard drive that's plugged into a thing to make it external, so it can be used by usb. I used it plenty of times back and forth between mine and my father's laptops, and there were never any problems. one day after unmounting and unplugging it from my father's laptop, I plugged it into mine and it just never showed up. it recognizes that it's being plugged in, you feel the drive spinning and everyth
[02:45] <seer-of-void> ing, but it never shows up in the menu.
[02:45] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: upstream is the easiest
[02:45] <DoMPatoneS> knob -> mount --bind olddir newdir chow user:user
[02:46] <knob> 10-4
[02:46] <knob> ok...
[02:46] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: upstream?
[02:46] <SuperNoeMan> what's that?
[02:47] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: debian is upstream
[02:47] <SuperNoeMan> I just started checking out launchpad
[02:47] <SuperNoeMan> ah ok
[02:47] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: the quickest way to get what you are saying..quickest and easiest, is to get your software into debian upstream.. it trickles in, and you apt-get it
[02:47] <TJ-> seer-of-void: " thing to make it external" sounds very suspect to me... so what I will interpret it as is this: You have a SATA drive connected to a SATA-to-USB2 adapter connected to a USB2 port
[02:48] <DrakkenWarr> evening gents, what is the easiest way to block a website with ubuntu
[02:48] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: how do I find out about how to do that?
[02:49] <dog_> DrakkenWarr, you mean like parental controls?
[02:49] <dog_> or in the firewall
[02:49] <SuperNoeMan> "trickles"?
[02:49] <SuperNoeMan> I want to be able to control it real time
[02:49] <resno> DrakkenWarr: easiest is just to do /etc/hosts... but that doesnt really scale
[02:49] <DrakkenWarr> I was trying to do it through the hosts file, but that did not work
[02:49] <seer-of-void> TJ: that's the one. apologies, been at all this for like 6 hours now, I'm getting lazy with names
[02:49] <SuperNoeMan> as in, build it tonight, push it to some apt server somewhere and then download it ASAP
[02:49] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: that will *never* happen..
[02:50] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: unless you are already a MOTU, or a debian developer.. or part of another distro.
[02:50] <TJ-> seer-of-void: I've experienced several of those adapters, and I've had 5 fail so far!  3) I'm a bit suspicious that my father's laptop might've done something to it because there was something going on with his computer at the time, I think it was malware. And I will cry for days if everything is gone, but I don't think it is. (this hard drive has like 12 years worth of my stu
[02:52] <seer-of-void> ff on it)
[02:52] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: you are welcome and encouraged to do what you like with your software
[02:53] <TJ-> seer-of-void: My first check is always cables and controllers, followed by watching the kernel log to see if the device (or its controller) shows up
[02:53] <TJ-> seer-of-void: So I'm 85% confident a direct connection will work
[02:53] <TJ-> seer-of-void: if it does, simply get another SATA-to-USB2 adapter
[02:54] <seer-of-void> TJ: fun... guess I'm opening up the desktop again.
[02:56] <jianhe> 14.04, how can I remove window decoration for specified application?
[02:56] <alfonsojon> jianhe: black magic
[02:57] <alfonsojon> jianhe: Kidding, you can probably do something with CCSM. Not sure though.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> jianhe, Specific details help.
[02:57] <jianhe> alfonsojon: CCSM could not doing this because unity plugin conflict with window decoration plugin
[02:59] <alfonsojon> jianhe: Darn.
[02:59] <jianhe> wilee-nilee: I want to remove the window title for a chromium window
[02:59] <knob> Guys, if I modify the   /etc/hosts.allow       .... should I restart a service?         ssh?
[02:59] <alfonsojon> You can do that on XFCE
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> jianhe, Cool, maybe someone can help, I don't use the browser.
[03:00] <jianhe> alfonsojon: I am using unity ...
[03:01] <alfonsojon> jianhe: I know, I just don't know how to do it in Unity.
[03:02] <prepangolin> Hi guys!
[03:03] <prepangolin> I've something problem during using "apt-get update" command.
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, Run it and pastebin all of it.
[03:04] <prepangolin> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540945/ and http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540967/
[03:04] <Gallomimia> TJ-: still no luck getting keyboard on the fussy bios
[03:04] <seer-of-void> TJ: ok I decided I'm not doin all that tonight. I'll try it tomorrow and see what happens
[03:05] <TJ-> seer-of-void: OK, get some rest :)
[03:05] <utopian> hi
[03:05] <TJ-> Gallomimia: not having it in front of me its hard to diagnose further... I'm have slapped the side of the PC *hard* by now though, just on principle :p
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, That is the sources.list
[03:05] <seer-of-void> TJ: indeed. and thanks again for all your help~
[03:06] <Gallomimia> it's a good idea. maybe i'll reseat the cards and drives and cpu
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, You said apt-get update was the issue
[03:07] <prepangolin> wilee-nilee: The former is the error message after "sudo apt-get update" and later is the content of the sources.list file.
[03:07] <fishcooker> i've done apt-get dist-upgrade but because some reason i cancel it
[03:08] <fishcooker> how to delete the downloaded package?
[03:08] <Gallomimia> TJ-: i did stop trying for awhile while it sat at a black screen. i found a problem elsewhere on the network and moved to look at that. i did nmap on my subnet and found a doom backdoor. and the worst part about it is i can't identify the computer that has it :P
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, I see nothing but your sources list which looks fine, hows about actually running the update and showing every single bit.
[03:08] <prepangolin> I say I saw the askubuntu's Q&A already, but still did't spot this issue.
[03:09] <TJ-> Gallomimia: oh that's easy; just block the target's IP at the firewall and wait until someone complains
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, Ah two links hold on my mistake.
[03:10] <Gallomimia> TJ-: it's my private home network. i can't figure out who knows the password to get in thru wifi and has windows
[03:10] <Gallomimia> all the other computers are off :P
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> prepangolin, Hash sums not matching is, what it is, an apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade would help to show. I suspect it is a held package situation which is a partial upgrade which is not a good idea to run.
[03:11] <TJ-> Gallomimia: cycle the passphrase and make it truly random "pwgen -s 16 1"
[03:12] <utopian> hi
[03:12] <Gallomimia> ah you've tripped on my secretive problem. i changed the password for the isp-provided-router months ago and forgot it :P
[03:13] <Gallomimia> right around the same time i stopped geeking out at home all the time and started working 70h per week 3 out of 4 weeks
[03:13] <utopian> hi
[03:13] <utopian> hi
[03:13] <utopian> hi
[03:13] <cfhowlett> utopian ask your ubuntu questions
[03:13] <Stanley00> utopian: please stop that.
[03:13] <utopian> Alright is there anything other thatn apt-get for ubuntulog_
[03:13] <utopian> ubuntu
[03:13] <Gallomimia> or at least don't continue to do it
[03:13] <utopian> I think debian has aptitutde, does ubuntu have that also
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> yes
 Let's me check it.
[03:14] <utopian> Nice
[03:14] <Stanley00> utopian: yes, and apt also :D
[03:14] <cfhowlett> utopian aptitude is available, but apt is the default.  synaptic is also available.
[03:14] <utopian> Awesome -^.^- aptitude was fairly new when I stopped using debian
[03:14] <utopian> My second distro I ever purchased officially was debian woody
[03:14] <utopian> aptitude seems very nice
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> !ot | utfans05
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> utopian, That offtopic was for you, this is support.
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> "just the facts" Joe Friday
[03:22] <troy_cambridge> I am finding myself unable to update.  It says something like apt-get or synaptic is already running.
[03:22] <holstein> troy_cambridge: ok.. kill or close all but one
[03:22] <troy_cambridge> what should I kill in task manager?
[03:23] <holstein> troy_cambridge: dont overthink it.. just close them
[03:23] <troy_cambridge> them equals ?
[03:23] <holstein> troy_cambridge: you can only use one at a time
[03:23] <holstein> troy_cambridge: choose the one you want to use, and close the rest
[03:24] <troy_cambridge> holstein, I have already tried that unsuccesfully
[03:24] <holstein> troy_cambridge: i suggest, if you dont understand, or know where the error is, just reboot the machine, and before running anything, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors
[03:24] <troy_cambridge> I'm needing actual advice.
[03:24] <dlimuratdj> Does anyone know what time the phone ubuntu sell? There ubuntutouch official version? What time? How to install ubuntu touch app when there is no network, like android apk, ubuntu has app execution files? Phone
[03:25] <troy_cambridge> ah.  thanks holstein  that's what I was looking for.
[03:25] <cfhowlett> dlimuratdj "when it's done"
[03:25] <holstein> troy_cambridge: you can run "ps aux" and see what it running.. but, you may just find it quicker to reboot
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !touch
[03:25] <Tohsh> I have a clean install of server 14.04 on an intel i5 3rd gen based machine. I am unable to boot normally without the nomodeset flag set on the kernel line in grub. It will attempt to boot and then freeze when adding swap. This has never been an issue in the past on previous releases for me. I have verified my UUIDs match in fstab and blkid. Any idea?
[03:26] <agspy1> My windows computer wont boot off of the ubuntu disc.
[03:26] <holstein> agspy1: correct
[03:27] <holstein> agspy1: ubuntu live disc is not made to boot windows
[03:27] <dlimuratdj> Thank you very much! <3
[03:27] <agspy1> Wait what
[03:28] <agspy1> holstein: I think we are talking about 2 different things.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !details|agspy1
[03:28] <DoMPatoneS> highlight test
[03:28] <DoMPatoneS> highlight test dompatones
[03:28] <holstein> agspy1: you stated you cannot boot your windows machine.. the ubuntu live disc is not made to boot windows
[03:28] <holstein> agspy1: you can only boot the live environment
[03:29] <DoMPatoneS> dompatones
[03:29] <cfhowlett> DoMPatoneS ask your ubuntu questions
[03:30] <agspy1> Theres not much to elaborate on. I have windows 8. I just downloaded the iso for ubuntu, burned it to a disc. (Actually I burned it twice, once with the extracted files, one without the extracted files) I set my priority to boot off of the disc, just so I could test it out to see if I like it. But it wont recognize either of the discs. It still jjust boots into windows 8.
[03:30] <ergandon> I have ubuntu
[03:30] <dauntl3ss> hey guys, i am trying to update/upgrade my server and when I login I see 7 new packages 7 are security updates. I do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade but this is what happens : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7541117/
[03:31] <cfhowlett> agspy1 you don't "extract" files to make an ubuntu boot disc
[03:31] <Artemis3> agspy1, "extracted files" sounds really not nice
[03:31] <agspy1> Explain what I did wrong. O.o
[03:31] <Artemis3> agspy1, also usb sticks are good for you :)
[03:32] <agspy1> I cant find mine. D: I think my dad broke it. :/
[03:32] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss it happens.  nothing much to worry about.  Held back packages generally get fixed in fairly quick time
[03:32] <dauntl3ss> cfhowlett: but I only see 3 packages held back the thing says there are 7 -- so that's 4 not being accounted for
[03:32] <dauntl3ss> nothing to worry about too?
[03:32] <dauntl3ss> all are security updates T_T
[03:32] <Artemis3> agspy1, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[03:32] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss run this command:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> oh yeah that's a big one
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> 222MB
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> and all 7 packages
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> thank you :)
[03:33] <dauntl3ss> is it always reccomended to update the distro?
[03:34] <agspy1> But like I said.  So I burned it again on a brand new disc as just the .iso file.
[03:34] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss well, security upgrades certainly.
 you may try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, Assuming the disc is bootable, are you aware of the UEFI issues with W8 factory installs?
[03:34] <dauntl3ss> cfhowlett, thanks a mill :)
[03:35] <he1kki> Anyone else have loooong wait before laptop brightness keys actually do anything? Every now and then it can take > 5min before scren suddenly starts to obey all those commands given before
[03:35] <dauntl3ss> pngo_ thank you
[03:35] <cfhowlett> dauntl3ss happy to help
[03:35] <agspy1> It wasnt a factory install. I did all possible research on this before coming here. This is a windows 7 machine, that I upgraded.
[03:35] <agspy1> So I dont have a UEFI option in my BIOS
[03:35] <holstein> agspy1: i would take the media to another machine. then, you will have a more broad data point
[03:36] <holstein> agspy1: you dont have the option? or you have no restrictions?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, Cool, an important isue 99% of the time with W8. Are you aware of the boot menu outside the bios?
[03:36] <agspy1> Uhhhh... I guess not?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, On the bios boot splash it tells you the keys to hit.
[03:37] <agspy1> holstein: I have the bios for windows 7. I can set the priorities for boot. Thats it. No UEFI
[03:38] <agspy1> wilee: 1.) Mine boots so quick you wouldnt be able to read them. 2.) From the thousands of times ive tried to see which buttons, I dont believe they say anything besides "F12 for Network Boot"
[03:38] <Sohron> agspy1: there is no bios for windows 7, BIOS is universal for all OS's
[03:38] <cfhowlett> agspy1 really suggest you stop; go to the store, buy a 4 GB or larger USB and make your bootable media.  LOT less painful that burning CD's ... and NO EXTRACTION required
[03:38] <holstein> agspy1: if you have another machine, you can see if the media boots there.. you cant just copy the data over to the cd.. you have to do an image copy, using the iso as the source
[03:39] <agspy1> I know.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, A menu you want to know, look it up on the web, it is a per-session boot, I have seen it listed in manuals, which are also on the web.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, This will prove whether it is the disc or not.
[03:40] <cfhowlett> agspy1 look in your computer documentation or on the OEM support site to find your bios menu command
[03:42] <JoobusJones> Hey!
[03:42] <Fuhrmann> Hey
[03:42] <cfhowlett> JoobusJones ask your ubuntu questions
[03:42] <JoobusJones> I'm trying to compile an OpenGL application, but ld is telling me that it can't find -lGL; I have confirmed that libGL.so exists and that I have libgl1-mesa-dev installed and updated.
[03:43] <agspy1> Sohron: Actually there are different BIOS. On a computer that had w8 preinstalled you have the option to mess with the UEFI. On mine it does not. :)
[03:43] <_2_sabrinahotgir> hi
[03:43] <JoobusJones> Every article I've found about my problem (like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18406369/qt-cant-find-lgl-error) have had solutions that are unhelpful
[03:44] <holstein> agspy1: you think its the iso that you downloaded?
[03:44] <Sohron> agspy1: but the basic input/output system is the sam agspy1
[03:44] <holstein> !md5 | agspy1
[03:44] <holstein> agspy1: you think its the DVD you have made? can you get to the integrety check? if not, have you tried booting it on other hardware?
[03:45] <agspy1> There are so many responses I dont know where to start
[03:46] <Sohron> agspy1: forget me then, i've got nothing musch to offer others have already stated
[03:46] <Sohron> much*
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, We all have been there, ask questions if it helps.
[03:47] <cfhowlett> agspy1 start here: VERIFY your downloaded ISO.  YES, verify, YES every time.   THEN verify the boot media you create with the ISO.  holstein sent you md5sum link.
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> agspy1, preface whom your asking with their nick, the tab will complete nicks, tyoe a few letters of one hit the tab.
[03:47] <JoobusJones> Any ideas on why I'd be unable to locate lGL even with libgl1-mesa-dev installed?
[03:48] <holstein> JoobusJones: maybe something hard-coded in ubuntu that is not in the place that is expected
[03:48] <agspy1> holstein: I am currently looking at the md5. It being extremely early in the morning, I am finding it hard to understand. .-.
[03:49] <JoobusJones> holstein: I feel like I had this working not long ago; I just installed the latest fglrx driver and now things are weird
[03:49] <JoobusJones> holstein: libGL.so is in a sane place and properly linked up
[03:49] <holstein> agspy1: you get the sum of the iso you downloaded.. and match it with the sum of the one on the site
[03:50] <holstein> JoobusJones: use the repo version
[03:51] <JoobusJones> holstein: of fglrx?
[03:51] <JoobusJones> That's stuck on like 13.x still, and doesn't even support 14.04, lol
[03:51] <JoobusJones> Only the latest beta release of fglrx supports 14.04 and OpenGL 4.4
[03:52] <agspy1> They are the same.
[03:52] <agspy1> Whoops.
[03:52] <holstein> JoobusJones: 14.04 has a version..
[03:53] <JoobusJones> holstein: AMD's proprietary drivers don't officially support 14.04 until 14.6, which is presently in beta
[03:53] <holstein> JoobusJones: if you want one that doesnt come from ubuntu, you have to seek support where it comes from.
[03:53] <agspy1> holstein: "MD5 Check Sums are the same"
[03:53] <JoobusJones> It's not the driver issue
[03:53] <JoobusJones> It's ubuntu being silly about something
[03:54] <cfhowlett> holstein so you checked BOTH the downloaded ISO and the CD?
[03:54] <holstein> agspy1: ok.. so, now you move on to the media you created.. can you get to the integrity check? have you tried it on another machine?
[03:55] <agspy1> holstein: I dont own another machine. Its only me and my laptop
[03:55] <holstein> agspy1: can you get to the integrity check on the media you created?
[03:56] <holstein> agspy1: you dont have to "own" the machine to boot the media on it.. thats why i didnt ask you how many computers you owned.. i asked if you had tried the live media on another machine.. and that answer is no? correct?
[03:56] <agspy1> holstein: Thats exactly what im saying.
[03:56] <holstein> agspy1: you made the DVD? correct? and *onlhy* tried booting it on your one laptop? correct?
[03:56] <agspy1> Yep
[03:56] <holstein> agspy1: how about this? have you tried the integrity check?
[03:57] <agspy1> No idea what youre talking about. :)
[03:57] <holstein> agspy1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[03:58] <holstein> agspy1: then say so.. or ask.. will you please try running the integrity check on the media and let the volunteers here know if you are not able to run it, or get to that menu?
[03:59] <agspy1> holstein: Ok. I cant get to the menu.
[04:01] <Sohron> agspy1: what boot orded do you have set in BIOS?
[04:02] <agspy1> Optical drive, external, network, hard drive
[04:02] <Sohron> okay
[04:02] <Sohron> no problemo there
[04:02] <Sohron> you should really checksum the dvd agspy1
[04:04] <agspy1> Sohron: I am looking at the BootFromCD page. How am I supposed to checksum if the files look like the first picture?
[04:05] <Sohron> agspy1: if you don't know how to checksum a dvd in windows, i can't help, i haven't used windows for ten years
[04:06] <pantsareoff> Ubuntu 14.04 - Wifi problems - Qualcomm chipset - Keeps disconnecting.
[04:08] <newshound> maybe this isn't the place, but the nicklist in ubuntu is huge for the nicklist buffer in weechat-curses -- any way to resolve this issue?
[04:11] <TARDISGuy> Help. My wifi keeps falling asleep.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> newshound, #weechat maybe
[04:11] <newshound> okay
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> !details | TARDISGuy To the channel
[04:13] <newshound> TARDISGuy: maybe change your power management settings
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> newshound, There is no sleep for wifi.
[04:16] <newshound> maybe he is using a laptop?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> they are gone
[04:17] <alex_> How do I go about installing something from the PPA?
[04:17] <alex_> For isntance, I have this link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> newshound, Maybe, is why I asked the bot to phish for details
[04:17] <alex_> But I don't know how to install it from there. Instructions are not on the page.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | alex_
[04:18] <alex_> wilee-nilee: that doesn't answer my question.  I'd like to install the latest version of tmux from the official PPA.
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> alex_, Cool, go for it, technically we don;t help with that, however someone may, help if you keep a good attitude. ;)
[04:22] <alex_> wilee-nilee: okay, thanks.
[04:25] <Bashing-om> alex_: see if this helps : http://www.sitepoint.com/tmux-a-simple-start/ .
[04:27] <wrenthief> holy smoke thats a lota people in hee
[04:27] <wrenthief> here
[04:28] <Bashing-om> alex_: Found out PPA : https://launchpad.net/~svetlyak40wt/+archive/tmux ...
[04:29] <wrenthief> awfully quiet in here
[04:30] <wrenthief> oh well ,enjoy life folks
[04:32] <syeekick> alot of my executables like mumble, firefox, steam keep crashing
[04:33] <syeekick> i have no idea how to fix these issues, i tried re-installing them
[04:33] <syeekick> ubuntu 14.04
[04:34] <holstein> you can try running them from the command line, and see if there is helpful output.. try running them as another user.. or as the guest user, or whatever to remove your configurtation from the equation
[04:34] <holstein> syeekick: ^
[04:35] <syeekick> thanks dude
[04:35] <syeekick> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:36] <syeekick> google chrome
[04:36] <holstein> syeekick: go with supported applications
[04:36] <holstein> syeekick: or, start there..
[04:36] <syeekick> http://pastebin.com/F5N7pgq3
[04:37] <syeekick> syee@syee:~$ mumble
[04:37] <syeekick> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:37] <syeekick> fack
[04:37] <holstein> syeekick: i would try as another user. and test my hard drive and ram as well
[04:37] <TARDISguy> Google Chrome not playing Audio on YouTube: Easy fix?
[04:38] <holstein> TARDISguy: ask them.. it literally just works here. out of the box
[04:38] <holstein> TARDISguy: maybe you are overriding the included flash
[04:39] <TARDISguy> @holstein 1. Installed 14.04 on MDADM, 2. apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras 3. google chrome through dpkg -i
[04:40] <Kazi_> Hi, I have tried finger command but did not get what I am looking for. I am trying to list servers name that particular user has a access. Is there any commands like that?
[04:44] <syeekick> getting some serious internal errors throughout my system too
[04:45] <Radon_3> hi fellas, can i ask a question about calibre in this channel?
[04:45] <Radon_3> calibre on ubuntu
[04:45] <TARDISguy> @holstein chromium browser works. I guess thats fine. But I was having massive Keyboard lag before reinstall
[04:46] <Radon_3> ?
[04:49] <phunyguy> Radon_3, ifit is on Ubuntu, go forit
[04:49] <phunyguy> for it*
[04:49] <primepie> is there a reason why environment variables set in /etc/environment don't propagate anymore in trusty ?
[04:51] <saeedullah> Hello All friend
[04:53] <Radon_3_> phunyguy: thank you, yes it sorta does, I have set my system proxy settings in ubuntu to use a local proxy, and I expect calibre to fetch the info using that proxy, but it seems calibre is not willing to use system wide proxy cause it is still not capable to fetche the info from some news sources
[04:53] <Radon_3_> what should I do?
[04:54] <phunyguy> some apps simply cannot use a proxy without being tricked into doing so.
[04:54] <phunyguy> I can't remember the names of them, but there are some socks proxy wrapper apps out there
[04:54] <phunyguy> basically runs the app within a wrapper that redirects all traffic from it through a socks proxy of your choosing.
[04:55] <Bsims> hey phunyguy, I just set up alpine with a zenburn theme just to read gmail... I can't decide if thats geeky or just lame
[04:55] <phunyguy> oh...k...?
[04:55] <Radon_3_> yeah, I have read in the calibre manual that I should use the http_proxy switch but I just don't know how. I am trying to figure it out...
[04:55] <Bsims> heh a text based email client
[04:55] <phunyguy> oh, so it is in the Calibre docs...
[04:55] <Radon_3_> by the way I have been almost a month off windows, thank you ubuntu
[04:56] <Radon_3_> <3 I am so proud this is the best day of my life
[04:56] <phunyguy> Radon_3_, typically in Ubuntu the proxy settings do all that for you
[04:56] <newshound> Radon_3_: *claps*
[04:56] <phunyguy> can you pastebin the output of `export | grep http`?
[04:56] <newshound> Bsims: have you tried mutt?
[04:57] <Radon_3_> phunyguy: yeah that is whatI hoped would happen like it has happened in the past, but I think a restart might do the trick, I am goiung for it
[04:57] <phunyguy> this conversation is becoming a bit offtopic
[04:57] <phunyguy> ok
[04:57] <Saeedullah_> Hello All friend how r you
[04:57] <phunyguy> hello!
[04:58] <Saeedullah_> is ubuntu linux demage the viruse?
[04:58] <phunyguy> I don't know what that means :(
[04:58] <Saeedullah_> i mean other operating system need Anivirus for OS
[04:59] <Saeedullah_> linux need for Aniviruse Installation?
[04:59] <phunyguy> Saeedullah_, typically antivirus programs on Linux are mainly to scan windows drives.
[04:59] <phunyguy> there aren't many virus for Linux, no.
[05:00] <Saeedullah_> it linux Operating system demage the virus or not?
[05:00] <phunyguy> I don't know what "demage" means
[05:00] <Saeedullah_> demage means destory
[05:01] <phunyguy> ok, I still don't know what you are trying to asl.
[05:01] <phunyguy> ask*
[05:01] <Saeedullah_> my question is that
[05:01] <phunyguy> Saeedullah_, what is your native language? maybe there is a LoCo channel that would be better suited?
[05:01] <Saeedullah_> when some time the win xp have virus
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> then win xp is not  working correctly
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> is it linux have virus?
[05:02] <phunyguy> so you want something that won't catch a virus? Or do you want to use Linux to clean Windows XP?
[05:02] <Sachiru> Not to be a grammar nazi, but it's "damage"
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> my native language is pashto
[05:02] <Sachiru> Not "demage"
[05:02] <Saeedullah_> yes
[05:03] <phunyguy> Sachiru, there is a definite language barrier here. Let's not do that.
[05:03] <Sachiru> And although linux has viruses, they are very rare and very limited in what they can damage.
[05:04] <phunyguy> Saeedullah_, I think Ubuntu is what you want.  Install it and try it out!
[05:05] <Sachiru> Anyhow, viruses do not cross-infect
[05:05] <Sachiru> A virus that is designed for windows will not do anything when placed on a Linux system, and vice versa
[05:06] <Sachiru> And since 95% of all viruses out there are designed for windows, using Linux means that by default you are protected from 95% of all viruses, even without antivirus software.
[05:07] <Sachiru> Of course Antivirus software for linux exists (ClamAV), but it exists mainly for servers where data is shared with Windows machines, so that if a virus somehow gets onto the Windows share it doesn't affect everyone attempting to access the share (that and other similar use cases).
[05:07] <phunyguy> and we lost him
[05:07] <Sachiru> And yep
[05:07] <Sachiru> Must be bad afghan internet
[05:07] <phunyguy> probably.
[05:08] <phunyguy> you are 100% correct by the way.
[05:08] <phunyguy> well said.
[05:08] <vilambit> afghan internel LOL
[05:08] <vilambit> internet*
[05:09] <phunyguy> ok, let's move on.
[05:10] <Sachiru> WEll
[05:10] <Sachiru> I'd contend the 95% figure
[05:10] <Sachiru> I'm thinking more along the lines of 99%, but I don't have citations
[05:11] <phunyguy> unimportant in this topic.
[05:11] <Sachiru> Aargh
[05:12] <Sachiru> Two 8GB flash drives configured as RAID1 mirror, LVM on top of them, installing Ubuntu to LVM
[05:12] <Sachiru> No swap space allocated on drives
[05:12] <Sachiru> Still erroring in installation
[05:12] <phunyguy> have you checked your source media for defects?
[05:13] <phunyguy> and is 8GB enough?
[05:13] <phunyguy> RAID1 with two 8 gig drives, still makes 8 gigs of space.
[05:13] <Sachiru> Source media md5 sum checks OK
[05:13] <Sachiru> And it's Lubuntu. Source media is only 600MB in size and official documentation says that the minimum requirements is 4.7 GB
[05:13] <Sachiru> So theoretically it should work.
[05:14] <Barrin6> anyone know of any truecrypt alternatives that works across all platforms? Windows, linux, osx?
[05:14] <vilambit> what's the problem with truecrypt again?
[05:14] <phunyguy> website got hacked
[05:14] <phunyguy> (I think)
[05:14] <vilambit> oh, so its not real?
[05:15] <phunyguy> anyways, Sachiru not sure man.
[05:15] <Barrin6> no one knows yet. It may be hacked, or a dead-man’s switch
[05:15] <vilambit> LOL
[05:15] <Barrin6> their website makes no sense. Telling people to use bitlocker as an alternative lol
[05:15] <phunyguy> yep, and this topic is offtopic.
[05:15] <phunyguy> :)
[05:15] <phunyguy> except for maybe an alternative on ubuntu
[05:16] <Barrin6> yea it is, but I don’t know where else to ask.
[05:16] <phunyguy> well is it for Ubuntu?
[05:16] <phunyguy> What does TrueCryot accomplish?
[05:16] <phunyguy> Crypt*
[05:17] <matux> everyzone
[05:17] <Sachiru> @Barrin: Google "GnuPG" and "GPG4Win"
[05:17] <bazhang> !truecrypt | phunyguy
[05:17] <phunyguy> thanks bazhang
[05:22] <Sachiru> @Barrin: Anyhow the consensus is that only the 7.2 version is suspect
[05:22] <Sachiru> The 7.1 version appears to be clean.
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> #truecrypt vilambit
[05:23] <Sachiru> Current theories is that "We believe that there is either a power conflict in the dev team or psychological issues, coersion of some form, or a hacker with access to site and keys."
[05:24] <Saeedullah> what is GNU Stand?
[05:24] <phunyguy> Saeedullah, you mean what does it stand for?
[05:24] <phunyguy> as in what is the acronym?
[05:25] <Saeedullah> yes
[05:25] <phunyguy> GNU's Not Unix
[05:25] <Saeedullah> GNU's Not Unix ok but what is GNU?
[05:25] <hunt> hey guys, im trying to install amd drivers for my card, but the catalyst control center (administrative) fails immediately after the prompt for password no matter what i input
[05:26] <hunt> the regular catalyst ontrol center runs fie
[05:26] <Ben64> Saeedullah: http://www.gnu.org/
[05:26] <phunyguy> Saeedullah, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[05:26] <ben14> Saeedullah:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU
[05:26] <vilambit> Saeedullah: GNU's Not Unix
[05:27] <phunyguy> hunt, where did you get the amd drivers?
[05:27] <hunt> apt-get
[05:27] <ben14> Saeedullah:  G = GNU , N = Not , U = Unix
[05:27] <Saeedullah> thanx dear all of you now i am checking about GNU
[05:27] <phunyguy> hunt, hmm, maybe a bug report needs to be filed.
[05:27] <Sachiru> It's a recursive acronym
[05:28] <ben14> No problem :)
[05:28] <Sachiru> Kinda like PHP
[05:28] <Sachiru> Means nothing at all.
[05:28] <Saeedullah> ben14 dose it right
[05:28] <phunyguy> so much offtopic....
[05:28] <Saeedullah> G = GNU , N = Not , U = Unix
[05:28] <Sachiru> As I sad
[05:28] <Sachiru> *said
[05:28] <hunt> phunguy: that sucks! i mean i honestly am not going to change anything at the moment but damn i wish i had the option! also the entire catalyst system is very not-unixy
[05:28] <Sachiru> Recursive acronym
[05:28] <phunyguy> can we please keep the discussion ubuntu support related?
[05:29] <mchid> sometimes aptitude is needed to resolve dependency issues for amd (nvidia) graphics I don't know if that applies
[05:29] <Saeedullah> recursive acronym  means?
[05:29] <phunyguy> Saeedullah, please, enough.
[05:30] <vilambit> Saeedullah: lol
[05:30] <ben14> Saeedullah: Google is your friend, please use it :)
[05:30] <vilambit> Saeedullah: now research WINE and you'll start to get it :P
[05:30] <Saeedullah> dear i want to know about Ubuntu
[05:30] <Saeedullah> i interst to learne it
[05:30] <phunyguy> so ask your Ubuntu question please.
[05:30] <Ben64> Saeedullah: you've not asked a single ubuntu related support question yet. please keep this channel clear for that purpose
[05:30] <phunyguy> please keep in mind this is a support channel.
[05:31] <Saeedullah> ok
[05:32] <phunyguy> Everyone: There is an offtopic channel at #ubuntu-offtopic for general banter.
[05:33] <Saeedullah> what is the ubuntu command syntax for command?
[05:35] <mahesh_> I want to install cadence in ubuntu
[05:35] <mahesh_> any one know that
[05:35] <hunt> so now that i have this new driver my games are broken :'(
[05:35] <hunt> the whole catalyst situation is far too sketchy
[05:35] <mahesh_> ritesh, hi
[05:36] <holstein> mahesh_: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories for ubuntu sources to kxstudio having cadence and others. try #opensourcemusicians
[05:36] <holstein> hunt: the games are fine.. the new driver is not supporting the 3d that the games require
[05:37] <hunt> holstein: how is that my previously driver free computer has better 3d support then the proprietary one
[05:37] <mahesh_> holstein, i am not getting any thing on that website
[05:37] <mahesh_> where i can download
[05:37] <holstein> hunt: the open driver can provide 3d
[05:37] <holstein> mahesh_: you can download wherever the creator provides a download. but the site i linked has sources, PPA's, that have cadence and others
[05:38] <gomaaz> hi threre
[05:38] <hunt> holstein: 3d still works but gmod crashes
[05:38] <hunt> holstein: how do i get the open drivers btw? are they better than the standards?
[05:38] <holstein> hunt: the open ones are just in the kernel.. they are not "better" or "worse".. they are different
[05:38] <mahesh_> holstein, thanks for your copertion
[05:38] <mahesh_> am getting
[05:39] <hunt> holstein: the open ones are already installed? the problem with the open ones is there very inefficient and seem to run my gpu fan at max always
[05:39] <hunt> holstein: the problem with the proprietary one is that it fucks up a lot of the graphics
[05:39] <phunyguy> please watch the language
[05:40] <hunt> phunyguy sorry forgot this was an official channel
[05:40] <holstein> hunt: not really.. the problem with proprietary graphics and hardware that do not promise linux support is that they can be not all that great
[05:40] <phunyguy> hunt, no worries :)
[05:40] <hunt> holstein: im telling you based on whats happening
[05:41] <hunt> holstein: this is literally whats happenning
[05:41] <holstein> hunt: im not doubting you one bit
[05:41] <hunt> holstein: ... "not really" ...
[05:41] <holstein> hunt: im just explaining why the driver can be not providing you 3d support.. you werent promised 3d support
[05:41] <holstein> hunt: if the open driver works better for you, i suggest using it
[05:42] <N300ZX> Is there a way to get CPU temp in Ubuntu without installing LM-sensors
[05:42] <N300ZX> NIC isn't working so I need something built in
[05:42] <phunyguy> N300ZX, you need software to interact with the sensors.
[05:43] <mahesh_> holstein,  i getting tar.xz file for Cadence how can i install in ubuntu
[05:43] <hunt> holstein: i dont know ... either way im getting lower fps then on windows as far as i can tell. ideally i just want a fast driver that works. how frequently are the open drivers updated?
[05:43] <phunyguy> mahesh_, read the readme that comes with the tar
[05:43] <phunyguy> mahesh_, they are all different.
[05:44] <holstein> hunt: sure. you were promised windows support for the hardware.. so, windows performance will likely be better
[05:44] <holstein> hunt: if you say the open one worked better, use it.. they are updated as needed.. and when changes come
[05:45] <holstein> hunt: i understand that you want a fast driver that works, and ubuntu nor linux are preventing AMD from providing you with that
[05:46] <hunt> holstein: if only the open driver didnt misuse my electronics!!!
[05:46] <holstein> hunt: you said it worked
[05:46] <wols> hunt: the "gpu fan at max always" isn't true anymore
[05:46] <phunyguy> hunt, maybe you can get a full refund for what you paid for that driver :(
[05:47] <phunyguy> (the free one)
[05:47] <hunt> wols: how do i update it? it still sounds like its at max to me
[05:47] <phunyguy> the point is, you paid for the AMD hardware, AMD should provide you the proper driver to make it work, or the ability for the Linux kernel devs to write a proper driver
[05:48] <hunt> phunyguy: true, they should, but im trying to be practical here, im not going to get that from amd. im really just looking for a solution for my own problems
[05:48] <phunyguy> hunt, well, that is where we stand.
[05:48] <holstein> hunt: practical is the company that makes the hardware supporting it.. ubuntu is not blocking that
[05:48] <phunyguy> the drivers are closed source.  That is the best we can do.
[05:49] <hunt> i mean personally practical, i have no influence over what amds doing, im just trying to work with what i can get
[05:49] <holstein> hunt: your problem is just that.. amd is doing what they promised you.. providing windows support, not linux
[05:49] <phunyguy> hunt, then you are stuck with broken 3d, or a high speed fan
[05:49] <hunt> side not, screen shots?
[05:49] <holstein> hunt: you'll routinely make compromises to run systems that are not supported
[05:49] <hunt> (of fullscreen processes)
[05:50] <phunyguy> or give your money to companies that provide proper support for linux
[05:50] <holstein> hunt: i suggest something like system76 in the future, where they take care of this for you
[05:50] <wols> hunt: since kernel 3.13 it's already in the kernel. google for "radeon dpm" to see how it works or how you can enable it
[05:50] <phunyguy> wols, good suggestion if it works
[05:50] <hunt> wols: how do i check my kernel version?
[05:50] <phunyguy> uname -r
[05:50] <phunyguy> (at command line)
[05:51] <phunyguy> if you are on 14.04, then you are on 3.13
[05:52] <hunt> i am on 14.04... it says dpm is enabled by default. why would my fans appear to me running at max or at least far higher then they are with the proprietary driver? if it changes anything the only drivers ive installed so far are the amd ones
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: i have several boxes like that..
[05:52] <hunt> holstein: does dpm just not work properly?
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: i make compromises based on the situation i need
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: ?
[05:52] <holstein> hunt: its the hardware, friend.. its not intended to support linux
[05:52] <wols> hunt: if you have fglrx installed then they are running and not the free ones
[05:53] <holstein> hunt: thats the issue.. i wasnt promised linux support for them.. nothing is broken. .everything is working as intended
[05:53] <shunya_chakra> hi is youtube-dl available in gui?
[05:53] <hunt> wols: my fglrx drivers (which are running right now) are far quieter then the free ones from before i installed this driver
[05:53] <holstein> hunt: one is using the openchrome driver which has gotten *much* better
[05:54] <holstein> !info youtube-dl
[05:54] <wigirc> shunya_chakra, I didn't see this
[05:54] <Gallomimia> error: failure reading sector 0x0  from hd0
[05:54] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, did you drop your computer?
[05:54] <Gallomimia> no
[05:55] <Gallomimia> i'm making a fresh install on a raid5 of 3 drives
[05:55] <Gallomimia> haven't got it to boot yet
[05:55] <shunya_chakra> ok wigirc, yesterday one youtube-dlg sees in some blog... I'm just concern is it official available.
[05:55] <phunyguy> hmmm... do you get any errors during the install?
[05:55] <Gallomimia> but i'm in the middle of working on it and the damn keyboard won't work in basic installer. works fine in grub
[05:55] <holstein> shunya_chakra: ?
[05:55] <Gallomimia> oh yeah dozens
[05:55] <holstein> shunya_chakra: its from the repos, install and use it if you like
[05:56] <Gallomimia> the latest run of installer seemed to work out. i was shocked. i felt naked
[05:56] <shunya_chakra> holstein, youtube-dl gui version
[05:56] <holstein> shunya_chakra: i dont use it.. a web browser is a gui..
[05:56] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, if you are asking for support, some of the errors your are getting would help a ton.
[05:57] <holstein> shunya_chakra: look at the source of what you are talking about and see if you trust it..
[05:57] <pentagonpie> shunya_chakra: youtube-dl allways breaks
[05:57] <Gallomimia> right now, i'm in a grub commandline. i can't even get an installer to run. keyboard stops working soon as anything more complicated than bios control or grub starts
[05:57] <shunya_chakra> holstein, ok
[05:57] <shunya_chakra> pentagonpie, it works good for my unstable itnernet
[05:57] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, but what about in the ubuntu installer?
[05:57] <shunya_chakra> internete
[05:58] <Gallomimia> phunyguy: no it never gets past language selection
[05:58] <Gallomimia> i had it working yesterday
[05:58] <pentagonpie> shunya_chakra: what i meant was, google updates youtube so you wont be able to use youtube-dl
[05:58] <Gallomimia> then i got some bios reset error and it stopped doing that
[05:59] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, have you checked the integrity of the install source?
[05:59] <helmut_> hi
[05:59] <Gallomimia> i guess it might have gotten broken since
[05:59] <wigirc> shunya_chakra, what about flashgot? Does it support?
[05:59] <shunya_chakra> pentagonpie, is there any good alternative
[05:59] <Gallomimia> but i've got two different installers here that fail at the same point, and they've both worked before
[05:59] <phunyguy> weird.  Wish I knew.
[05:59] <shunya_chakra> wigirc, flashgot, i haven't used it.. it got funny name.. :)
[05:59] <Gallomimia> so thats two of us
[06:00] <Gallomimia> 3 or 4 if you count the other people who have examined this problem
[06:00] <pentagonpie> shunya_chakra: from what I understand, youtube-dl developers always update to fix that :)
[06:00] <Gallomimia> im ready to reflash the bios
[06:00] <Ben64> don't do that
[06:00] <Gallomimia> but from all i can see, its the same version as the one i've got already
[06:00] <phunyguy> Gallomimia, it can't hurt.... unless you aren't careful ;)
[06:00] <Gallomimia> yeah
[06:00] <Gallomimia> then it can really hurt :P
[06:00] <Gallomimia> oh well. new mobo i guess
[06:00] <shunya_chakra> yup pentagonpie i also read it in some blog.... always use updated youtube-dl.
[06:00] <phunyguy> ok folks, I need to go to bed.
[06:00] <phunyguy> goodnight
[06:00] <gomaaz> n8
[06:00] <Gallomimia> the one i have now has a dual bios. it claimed corruption
[06:00] <Ben64> try a different keyboard and/or change bios settings
[06:01] <Gallomimia> and copied from the 2nd setup
[06:01] <Ben64> dual bios? is it a gigabyte?
[06:01] <Gallomimia> yeah
[06:01] <Ben64> turn off fast boot
[06:01] <phunyguy> (I have one of those on order)
[06:01] <Gallomimia> oh yeah
[06:01] <phunyguy> ok night
[06:01] <Gallomimia> where the hell is that again?
[06:01] <Gallomimia> they're pretty good boards
[06:01] <Ben64> idk, but it boots so fast it often forgets to enable things like usb
[06:03] <Gallomimia> wait. i just downloaded pdf of manual
[06:03] <Gallomimia> search it ><
[06:05] <vilambit> how do i get mplayer to show the OSD by default?
[06:08] <wigirc> vilambit, if you use nautilus right button, preferences as I remember
[06:11] <vilambit> wigirc: huh?
[06:11] <vilambit> wigirc: what's nautilus have to do with it
[06:11] <vilambit> anyway i found it "--osdlevel=3"
[06:12] <slipperynick> hi, what settings would prevent byubo keyboard shortcuts from working in one terminal program over another?
[06:14] <guest-PMljDO> hello
[06:14] <guest-PMljDO> can you speak german
[06:15] <wigirc> vilambit, oh i read it incorrectly
[06:17] <allen> can i change the window border color in unity, like i can in say Mate or XFCE, or do i have to apply a theme and thats all i have for choices?
[06:24] <bencc> what happens when I put "&" at the end of a line like:
[06:24] <bencc> Xvfb :2 -screen 0 1024x768x24 &
[06:26] <kcbme_> hello, need help with black screen after startup. splash screen is fine, yet no desktop after loading
[06:26] <mdunc_> bencc: that runs the command in the background
[06:27] <bencc> mdunc_:  thanks. this is what I'm using http://dpaste.com/0DH4Q5Z/
[06:27] <mdunc_> bencc: if you wanted to bring that command back to the foreground, use the ‘fg’ command
[06:27] <kcbme_> much praise and worship to the one that makes my life livable again! ;)
[06:27] <bencc> it works and now I'm trying to understand how to use it
[06:28] <bencc> mdunc_: can I run multiple commands in the background?
[06:28] <mdunc_> bencc: yep :)
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, power on and after grub hit the esc key to see the text.
[06:28] <bencc> mdunc_: thanks
[06:29] <pentagonpie> bencc: google linux job control
[06:29] <mdunc_> bencc: another tip, if you forget the &, instead of doing CTRL-C and quitting it, you can use CTRL-Z to pause it and then the ‘bg’ command to run it in the background
[06:29] <kcbme_> i have a black screen after boot up, can anyone help?
[06:30] <bencc> pentagonpie: reading
[06:30] <bencc> mdunc_: thanks
[06:30] <gabinonerdvader> hola alguna chica con culo sediento de sexo
[06:30] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, What?
[06:30] <kcbme_> i see lots of loading text,
[06:31] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee what should i look for?
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, Look for errors and or where it stops. Is said you see a splash, is this right after grub?
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> is=you
[06:32] <gabinonerdvader> i want crack wifi wpa in grapick mode, someone know this????
[06:32] <kcbme_> yes, it shows the xubuntu logo with blue background then all balck and the usb drive is done loading
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, I only gave you an option, this does not mean I have any answers.
[06:34] <bencc> on ubuntu server, can I use X server 1 with xvfb or is there something else that use it? "Xvfb :0 -screen 0 1024x768x24 &"
[06:34] <sunil_> helo
[06:35] <gabinonerdvader> vamos putos escriban en español
[06:35] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee ok. well im at that desperate point. :( it started after installing skype, then skype would not let me log in cause it said i was already logged in on the comp. and i installed some i386 libs, then decided to uninstall sype. then on reboot no screen
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> !es | gabinonerdvader
[06:35] <benoror>  Hi! I want to migrate from gpg4usb to gpg command line in ubuntu. I already have a pubring, secring and trustdb generated. any resources on how should I proceed?
[06:36] <sunil_> I need know to that how can i find which one computer is downloading in my office.
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, That would cause a little frustration. ;) Not the end of the world though, so relax a little, this is a slower time on the channel, but sounds fixable.
[06:37] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee i hope so.
[06:37] <kcbme_> i believe upon first ubuntu install many months ago i had similar issues. and the text for the fix is on the desktop which i cant see but i do have access to root and tty
[06:37] <gabinonerdvader> i want crack wpa someone have anything sample to do for this case
[06:38] <sunil_> I need know to that how can i find which one ubuntu computer is downloading in my office
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> gabinonerdvader, wrong channel for that. ;)
[06:38] <pentagonpie> gabinonerdvader: chech kali linux
[06:39] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee thank you, i am a bit flustered. and yes it is probably fixable. sorry for the intensity
[06:39] <wilee-nilee>  kcbme_ This a ssh or on line computer?
[06:40] <Sachiru> @Sunil: I'd recommend that you consult gateway logs for that.
[06:40] <Sachiru> Or use something like pfSense/Zentyal for your gateway
[06:40] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee its my local laptop on an external usb drive
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, If your at the computer boot the live to get to the desktop on the install.
[06:41] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee tried that. doesnt like it. i will get a usb stick and try it again though
[06:43] <ryan___> hello
[06:43] <Guest63073> hi
[06:43] <benoror> hello
[06:43] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee i remember the first time i installed, it gave me similar issues. cant remember the fix for intel graphics chipset.
[06:44] <benoror> someone with GPG expertise? I have a question :)
[06:44] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee but if i can boot up from stick, what are my options?
[06:44] <ryan___> i'm having trouble booting ubuntu, something w/ can't mount
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, You said you had that fix on the installs desktop
[06:44] <Guest63073> hi there
[06:44] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee yeah. so it will let me see the files. ok cool. :)
[06:45] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee hopefully its the same issue...
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> kcbme_, Yeah, if it is a command needed you are not running the install from you desktop so if you get there tell us what the fix is if you like.
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> your*
[06:46] <jackbrown> could anyone help me with Docky? IT often crashes expecially when I suspend and resume my machine then I launched it with debug option here is the output http://dpaste.com/3C5DWFS/
[06:46] <kcbme_> wilee-nilee of course i will.
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:50] <Gallomimia> hey! i always hear about installing mdadm for using software raid. but when i go to install that it's a mailserver
[06:52] <Loshki> Gallomimia: google "HOWTO: Linux Software Raid using mdadm". That should get you started...
[06:54] <Gallomimia> Loshki: thanks that's the readup i'm working from. its the one that says install mdadm which is a mail client ><
[06:54] <Gallomimia> mail server! sorry
[06:55] <Gallomimia> no it's not. it just installs a mail server for you :/ whats up with that
[06:56] <Loshki> Gallomimia: dunno, never used it myself. Sounds like you're unstuck for the moment.
[07:13] <prabath>  #modsecurity
[07:15] <prabath>  #modsecurity
[07:18] <Pr0jectRec0n> If I updated to a backported kernel froim precise (to trusty) by doing 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty inux-image-generic-lts-trusty & linux-headers-generic-lts-trusty', how easily do I go back to the orig kernel verison?
[07:22] <leomark> hey guys, Im trying to install apache2 in ubuntu.. I got an error saying "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so"
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Pr0jectRec0n, You might look at this for another option. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[07:26] <Alder> Guys! How do I verify that the exact same .iso that sits on my desktop was transferred to my USB drive? How do I verify the SHA-1 AFTER transferring it? Do you understand?
[07:26] <Pr0jectRec0n> Alder, md5sum <file>
[07:26] <Alder> Pr0jectRec0n: That has nothing to do with what I asked. :S
[07:26] <ciurkut> hello i have weird problem... after reboot my wallpaper and lockscreen theme changes in gnome shell... any idea?
[07:27] <wols> Alder: shasum /dev/sdb or shasum /dev/sda1 wherever you copied it to
[07:27] <Alder> wols: Are you 100% sure? Does this work on Mac too?
[07:28] <slimjimflim> hi, randomly my screen freezes and i get flashing boxes all over it and the only way to get any response is to do a hard reboot.  running trusty tahr 14.04 (3.13.0-24-generic), this also happened running 12.10.  from lspci: "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"
[07:28] <slimjimflim> on a del inspiron n5110
[07:28] <wols> Alder: why do you care? do you think your PC is maliciously writing the wrong imagefile to the stick?
[07:28] <slimjimflim> *dell
[07:28] <slimjimflim> also i get this weirdness from dmesg:  http://pastie.org/9233781
[07:29] <slimjimflim> also, running xubuntu
[07:29] <slimjimflim> but i doubt that has anything to do with it
[07:29] <Alder> wols: Making sure never hurts? :)
[07:29] <wols> Alder: it does hurt. wasting time is wasting time.
[07:30] <Alder> wols: I don't see it as wasted time. :S
[07:30] <wols> cause if the above were true you were already compromised and it'd be a waste of time: the malware would corrupt your shasum :P
[07:30] <Alder> :O
[07:31] <slimjimflim> ...also from lsmod "video                  18903  1 i915
[07:31] <slimjimflim> "
[07:32] <slimjimflim> can anyone help?
[07:32] <leomark_> how can I install the lists of apache module?
[07:33] <slimjimflim> leomark_: the lists?
[07:33] <somsip> leomark_: exactly what do you mean? sudo a2enmod?
[07:33] <leomark_> @somsip Im installing apache2 but I got some error saying "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so"
[07:34] <somsip> leomark_: how are you installing apache2? What version of ubuntu>
[07:34] <slimjimflim> leomark_: does that file exist?
[07:34] <leomark_> @slimjimflim the file dont exists..
[07:35] <somsip> leomark_: did you upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 recently?
[07:35] <leomark_> Maybe I need to install some module in apache..
[07:35] <leomark_> yes..
[07:35] <somsip> leomark_: http://serverfault.com/questions/386687/update-to-apache-2-4-missing-modules
[07:35] <wols> slimjimflim: pastebin the output of "lspci -nn" and "dpkg -l|grep bumb"
[07:38] <slimjimflim> wols: http://pastie.org/9233805 http://pastie.org/9233809
[07:39] <wols> slimjimflim: you have no nvidia card installed but you have bumblebee installed. remove it
[07:40] <slimjimflim> wols: hrm, yea it didn't look like lspci was talking about me having a nvidia card
[07:40] <slimjimflim> wols: bumblebee is a nvidia driver or something i take it?
[07:41] <wols> no. bumblebee is a tool to switch between discrete and igp videocards, mainly for nvidia but not exclusively
[07:41] <slimjimflim> wols: what are the odds of complete annihilation if i do this?
[07:42] <slimjimflim> have you tried this before...did it fix something?
[07:44] <slimjimflim> k guess ur afk.  fuckit here we go...
[07:50] <uc_dude> hi. i'm trying to update devede to 3.23 but it stays at 3.21 can anybody help?
[07:50] <somsip> !info devede
[07:51] <somsip> uc_dude: so you are running 14.04 are you? And devede is not pinned on installed via a PPA?
[07:51] <uc_dude> 12.04
[07:51] <somsip> !info devede precise
[07:52] <Wizard> Hi. Since 3D on my system is broken since about 9.10 and since there is probably no option for running 3d with KMS on this laptop I have a question. Would it be tricky to install for example 8.04, cut it to bare bones of kernel/base system/xorg and than debootstrap 14.04 and run desktop from chroot?
[07:52] <somsip> uc_dude: so you're on the up to date version for 12.04
[07:52] <Wizard> Have somebody tried such a strange setup? :P
[07:52] <uc_dude> far as i know
[07:52] <Wizard> Sounds crazy, but may work.
[07:52] <somsip> uc_dude: it's a staement. You *are* on the up to date version for 12.04. So you can't upgrade to a newer version from the up to date version
[07:53] <somsip> Wizard: sounds crazy, probably wont work. Just install 14.04 if that's what you want
[07:53] <uc_dude> i'm talking about the latest version of devede
[07:54] <somsip> uc_dude: the latest version of devede for 12.04 is the version you have - 3.21. You could try a PPA though
[07:54] <somsip> !ppa | uc_dude
[07:54] <uc_dude> ok. how do i do that?
[07:55] <somsip> You see the URL just after 'Looking for a PPA?' in the sentence above. Follow it
[07:55] <Wizard_> Shimpu:
[07:55] <Wizard_> somsip: No option
[07:55] <Wizard_> No 3d = no unity, no gnome shell
[07:55] <somsip> Wizard_: I can't help you then
[07:55] <somsip> Wizard_: so use a diffeent wM?
[07:55] <Wizard_> Sure thing, don't worry
[07:55] <Wizard_> somsip: Not an option ;D
[07:55] <somsip> Wizard_: EOT for me
[07:56] <Wizard_> Not for me. I'll try chroot
[07:56] <Wizard_> :)
[07:56] <slimjimflim> why is my dpkg wrong? ...anyone? http://pastie.org/9233852 and http://pastie.org/9233854
[07:56] <slimjimflim> wols: even
[07:56] <dfrank> hi guys. Is that technically possible to add some apt repository with _many_ versions of _the_same_ package?  Say, repository with several versions of firefox, or any other package.
[07:56] <uc_dude> giving it a try.
[07:57] <slimjimflim> dfrank: you could compile from source
[07:57] <somsip> dfrank: PPAs can do this. Example is deadsnakes for Python. See !PPA
[07:58] <dfrank> slimjimflim: I know I can, I also can download deb package and install it with dpkg. I'm asking exactly about apt repository with _many_ versions of _the_same_ package.
[07:58] <dfrank> somsip: each PPA version can contain only one version of each package, as far as I see
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> dfrank, look closer they probably are release specific.
[07:58] <somsip> dfrank: no. An example of this is the deadsnakes PPA for python, like I said.
[07:58] <dfrank> somsip: is there some PPA repository with at least two versions of the same package?
[07:59] <dfrank> somsip: ok thanks will look now
[07:59] <slimjimflim> somsip: dfrank: interesting  ... https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[08:00] <MarkCn> 有木有人
[08:00] <somsip> !zh | MarkCn
[08:01] <slimjimflim> utf ftw
[08:01] <dfrank> somsip: actually there are different packages: python2.6 , python2.7 , etc.
[08:02] <dfrank> somsip: so the question is still relevant: is there possible to have some repository (maybe PPA or any else) that would contain many versions of the same package
[08:02] <somsip> dfrank: define what you mean by 'different versions' if you don't mean different version numbers then
[08:03] <slimjimflim> dfrank: depends on the package tho.  ie, there's only one php package...5.4 for trusty
[08:03] <somsip> dfrank: maybe it's all a moot point. What is your real question?
[08:04] <dfrank> somsip: I mean exactly version number.   "python2.6" is a package name. Say, when I want to install firefox of version 11, I can type:  sudo aptitude install firefox=11.0+build1-0ubuntu4
[08:04] <somsip> dfrank: so you want to install an old version of FF?
[08:04] <dfrank> somsip: version number can be specified after '=' sign
[08:05] <somsip> dfrank: only candidates can be installed. Current candidates for FF and current and about 3.5 from memory
[08:05] <slimjimflim> dfrank: it doesn't work like that
[08:05] <slimjimflim> there are dependencies
[08:05] <dfrank> somsip: I want to have general way to install old versions of any package.  I've already found deb package of firefox, so right now I don't need to install older firefox
[08:05] <slimjimflim> it would be awesome if it did tho
[08:06] <slimjimflim> dfrank: you can always find the  ubuntu version that the package you want was built for and run it in a vm
[08:06] <MonkeyDust> dfrank  i haven't followed, but here's a howto, try if it's possible http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-how-do-i-create-a-ppa-71510.html
[08:06] <somsip> dfrank: I've never heard of such a thing, so EOT for me
[08:07] <slimjimflim> dfrank: i went off on a similar tangent recently and eventually gave up and made a vm
[08:07] <dfrank> somsip: sorry my English isn't perfect, what is "EOT"?
[08:07] <MonkeyDust> eond of topic
[08:07] <somsip> dfrank: End Of Thread. I'm out of the discussion as I can't help.
[08:08] <dfrank> somsip: i see, thanks for your time
[08:08] <slimjimflim> dfrank: virtualbox is your friend
[08:09] <dfrank> slimjimflim: well, this is so dirty hack. I like ubuntu and debian but I hate its total dislike of downgrading anything.
[08:10] <slimjimflim> dfrank: there's always arch and gentoo
[08:10] <slimjimflim> dfrank: or you could compile from source and replace the bin in /usr/bin
[08:10] <dfrank> slimjimflim: i know. they have their own troubles. well, thanks for your time too.
[08:11] <slimjimflim> np
[08:12] <dfrank> slimjimflim: i know i can, but it is all dirty hacks. I believe it's not so technically hard to implement, say, an automatic way to undo 'aptitude upgrade', it would save a lot of time for me. but, it isn't supported and most likely never will be, because it's agains ubuntu (and debian) philosophy
[08:12] <dfrank> *against
[08:12] <slimjimflim> yep
[08:12] <slimjimflim> dfrank: it's all about the dependencies
[08:13] <slimjimflim> dfrank: honestly, if you really want to test an old version of ff, just do it in a vm
[08:13] <slimjimflim> that's the easiest way
[08:13] <dfrank> slimjimflim: no. It's all about philosophy. If I have repository with old version of, say, firefox, then aptitude will resolve all the dependencies
[08:14] <dfrank> slimjimflim: if I specify, say, 'sudo aptitude install firefox=11.0+build1-0ubuntu4'
[08:15] <slimjimflim> dfrank: yea, but if your repo is for an older version of ubuntu, the dependencies for your ff version might conflict with other packages on the machine
[08:15] <dfrank> slimjimflim: it will warn me of course, but if I agree, then it will remove/install/downgrade/upgrade everything that needs to
[08:15] <slimjimflim> that's why repos are version specific
[08:15] <slimjimflim> it's an all or nothing kind of thing
[08:15] <dfrank> slimjimflim: if we have repos with ALL versions of ALL packages, then all the dependencies can be resolved
[08:16] <slimjimflim> dfrank: you'd have to fork ubuntu to do that :P
[08:16] <slimjimflim> good luck
[08:17] <slimjimflim> in the meantime, use a vm
[08:18]  * slimjimflim runs off to watch youtubez of ppl shooting guns and hopes his video card finally stops teh failz...l8rzzz
[08:39] <Md_> hi
[08:39] <Guest21663> I am installing bugzilla on my ubuntu machine
[08:40] <Guest21663> please help me to install DBD::Oracle module
[08:40] <Guest21663> for that
[08:41] <Guest21663> hi
[08:41] <Guest21663> anyone there
[08:42] <MonkeyDust> !info bugzilla
[08:43] <wigirc> What difference between background and foreground job of processes?
[08:44] <wigirc> bg and fg
[08:44] <MonkeyDust> wigirc  foreground shows output, basically
[08:45] <wigirc> MonkeyDust, background doesn't?
[08:45] <Versudo> background should, unless you're redirecting output to a file
[08:46] <Versudo> but the job's
[08:46] <Versudo> in the background, so you can interact with the shell
[08:48] <wigirc> thanks, try to understand in examples now)
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> wigirc  ctrl-z sends jobs to the background... 'jobs' shows what's running and fg [number] brings them to the foreground
[08:50] <llutz> ctrl-z stops a job, bg brings it in background
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> just tried it with htop... it's ctrl-c that stops a job
[08:51] <wigirc> oh ok. Now I see, thanks
[08:51] <llutz> MonkeyDust: ctrl-c terminates a job
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> llutz  ok, then it must be grammar, to stops = terminates
[08:51] <sledgeDJ> hey guys... I am tryig to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> to me*
[08:52] <Ben64> sledgeDJ: you can try asking in #winehq and  you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine
[08:53] <llutz> MonkeyDust: stops as in suspend process but keep it in memory waiting for ...
[08:53] <vinou33> hello, is there someone who can explain me how i could work on .doc, .xls, .xlsx, .docx files on my laptop which OS is ubuntu ?
[08:53] <benoror> vinou33: LibreOffice
[08:54] <vinou33> benoror: yes, but it doesn't seem to appear like on word or excel
[08:54] <benoror> because is not word nor excel
[08:54] <Guest88491> !list
[08:55] <vinou33> benoror: People who are going to read the files will open them thanks to word or excel. It will not create a problem ?
[08:55] <llutz> MonkeyDust: from bash man-page (Job Control): " ... Typing the suspend character (typically ^Z, Control-Z) while a process is running causes that process to be stopped and returns control to bash...."
[08:56] <benoror> vinou33: they won"t have major issues, probably only little compatibility details, but they will be able to open the files afterwards
[08:56] <vinou33> benoror: it is a CV... I am a bit lost...
[08:58] <bcvery> vinou33, why not save it as a PDF; LibreOffice can do that once you've created the document
[08:59] <sledgeDJ> hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[09:00] <Arahael> Hey guys, can I ask what udisks are used for?
[09:00] <Arahael> (Why don't we just use, for instance, udev+pmount?)
[09:01] <vinou33> bcvery: yes, it is a good idea. Nevertheless, companies sometimes send files which format is .doc or .docx. I must add data and send back to them...
[09:02] <vinou33> should i use a vm ?
[09:02] <bekks> vinou33: Yes.
[09:02] <Marfu> hello
[09:03] <Marfu> where is channel for polish people ubuntu?
[09:03] <vinou33> is there someone who use this method ?
[09:03] <Arahael> vinou33: You might be able to use the free word viewer MS gives, and run it in wine...  But running a separate VM is by far less frustrating.
[09:03] <llutz> !pl | Marfu
[09:03] <wigirc> vinou33, use xp with word 2003+patch 2007 compatible
[09:03] <Arahael> vinou33: I do most of my work in VM's.
[09:03] <Marfu> Anybody can help me to put my package to ubuntu? (freeware font)
[09:04] <vinou33> Arahael: i work on Oracle Linux thanks to an Oracle VM which is free. Nevertheless, windows is not really free ^^.
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> vinou33  i have win xp as a virtual machine, only for ms office, because it's the standard
[09:04] <Arahael> vinou33: Almost every computer comes with a copy of windows.
[09:05] <vinou33> So, i should try to retrieve the windows copy but will the key be usable ?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> i recently installed lubuntu 14.04 on a laptop and had to manually add nm-applet to startup items to see wifi networks, is this a known issue to lubuntu or could something else cause this?
[09:05] <Arahael> vinou33: Why wouldn't it be?
[09:05] <Arahael> vinou33: Did you give it away to someone else?
[09:06] <vinou33> Arahael: no, i didn't.
[09:06] <Arahael> vinou33: (Oh, that remidns me... You might have some difficulty with OEM versions)
[09:06] <vinou33> Arahael: OEM ?
[09:06] <Arahael> vinou33: Still, give it a go.
[09:06] <Arahael> vinou33: At worst, it'll be good for 30 days.
[09:06] <Marfu> Where I can fount maintenacer for packeges font?
[09:07] <pentagonpie> dpkg -l still showes apps I removed, what can I do?
[09:08] <vinou33> Arahael: i am going to see.
[09:08] <llutz> pentagonpie: shown as "rc package..."? sudo aptitude purge '~C'
[09:10] <vinou33> Thank you for your help (everybody)
[09:11] <Arahael> vinou33: (btw, don't mix virtual machines. Pick one and then use only that one)
[09:12] <Arahael> vinou33: (ie, pick either vmware, or virtualbox, or the like)
[09:12] <thecha> hi what is the difference between vi and vim?
[09:13] <llutz> thecha: vim is "more improved", mostly vi is only a symlink to vim nowadays
[09:13] <Arahael> thecha: Sometimes vi is a smaller version of vim.
[09:13] <thecha> when i type "vi filename"  into ubuntu terminal does vim or vi open
[09:13] <thecha> and what is the diference
[09:13] <Arahael> thecha: But they are infact the same application, then calling vim using 'vi' will cause it to open in vi-emulation mode.
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: So you get a more restricted, more compatible set of features.  If you actually prefer the full functionality, then use 'vim', not 'vi'.
[09:14] <thecha> what does vim have that vi doesnt
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: Everything. :)
[09:14] <thecha> because i was able to work with vi out of the box
[09:14] <thecha> everything?
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: word completion. tabs for files.
[09:14] <thecha> can you list all things included in "everything" ? thanks
[09:14] <thecha> ewww
[09:14] <Arahael> thecha: No.
[09:15] <thecha> word ompletion while i am writing bash files isnt that dangerous?
[09:15] <thecha> tabs sounds gfood though
[09:15] <bekks> why would that be dangerous?
[09:15] <Radon_3> I want to change the (default) theme of my ubuntu 12.04 instllation, how can i get a different look and feel out of the system without messing it up?
[09:16] <thecha> it might autocomplete some key command btu doing it wrong and thus creating a bash virus that will destroy the world
[09:16] <thecha> or maybe even my computer
[09:16] <bekks> thecha: honestly, thats nonsense.
[09:16] <Arahael> thecha: You have to explicitly set word completion, it's ^p unless I'm mistaken.
[09:16] <thecha> :(
[09:16] <llutz> thecha: open vim, type ":h vi-differences", read
[09:16] <Arahael> thecha: It also has syntax highlighting.
[09:16] <thecha> so no world destruction by accident?
[09:16] <thecha> wow
[09:16] <Radon_3> any ideas folks
[09:16] <bekks> thecha: No nonsense by accident.
[09:16] <Radon_3> ?
[09:16] <thecha> syntax highlighting sounds pretty neat
[09:17] <Arahael> thecha: No. But it also doesn't have M-x bufferfly
[09:17] <Arahael> thecha: (For THAT, you need emacs)
[09:17] <thecha> ok so now that i understand the difference between vi and copycat vim what is the difference between vi/m and emacs?
[09:17] <bekks> thecha: different editors.
[09:17] <thecha> is there an advantage to use emacs over vi/m
[09:17] <somsip> !atroll | thecha (not a question for this channel)
[09:17] <Arahael> thecha: Of course. vim does not have M-x butterfly.
[09:17] <thecha> but whne i only code in c+++ is there any benefeit to learn emacs?
[09:18] <thecha> if i nevr use lisp
[09:18] <somsip> !ot | thecha
[09:18] <bekks> thecha: how is all that related to Ubuntu?
[09:18] <thecha> ok i am new to linux
[09:18] <thecha> i wont ask any questions liek those anymore
[09:18] <thecha> but i thought i would ask other ubuntu users these basic  noob questions
[09:18] <thecha> my bad
[09:19] <thecha> :(
[09:19] <bekks> thecha: these arent ubuntu related questions, thats all.
[09:19] <Radon_3> is my question also noobish?
[09:19] <bekks> Radon_3: More important, it is ontopic.
[09:20] <gsilva> Good morning. Does anyone here has installed Spotify recently?
[09:20] <thecha> offtopic gsilva
[09:20] <thecha> >:(
[09:20] <bekks> gsilva: How does that poll help you?
[09:20] <gsilva> poll? which poll?
[09:20] <Radon_3> bekks: hey bekks, I hope you got my message about appologizing and stuff a weak or so back. any ways, do you have any suggestions for me?
[09:21] <bekks> gsilva: "does anyone..." is considered to be a poll.
[09:21] <somsip> gsilva: just ask your real question and if it's on topic and someone can help you, maybe they will
[09:21] <gsilva> well, my idea is to ask if someone has installed it in Ubuntu 14.04 since I can't install it
[09:21] <bekks> Radon_3: I'm sorry I never needed/wanted to change the 12.04 theme.
[09:22] <Radon_3> oh forget it Ubuntu looks good already.
[09:22] <bekks> gsilva: And which error do you get...?
[09:22] <gsilva> I believe the repositories are wrong
[09:22] <bekks> gsilva: Why do you think so?
[09:22] <somsip> gsilva: how did you install it? PPA?
[09:22] <Arahael> gsilva: Do you believe that nobody else can install Ubuntu?
[09:22] <gsilva> I read people weren't being able to install in 14.04
[09:23] <gsilva> I tried command lines and putting the address on system settings
[09:23] <bekks> gsilva: And...? State the error messages you get please
[09:23] <bekks> gsilva: Until now, you did not provide any information someone is able to help you with.
[09:23] <gsilva> "The information about available software is out-of-date"
[09:24] <Marfu> hello where I can found sponsor of package?
[09:24] <bekks> gsilva: when doing what...?
[09:24] <somsip> Marfu: launchpad usually
[09:24] <gsilva> Dude, take it easy. I'm not that comfortable with Linux anyways so ask something. If I knew how to diagnose the problem, I wouldn't be here
[09:24] <Marfu> somsip, ? please cleary
[09:25] <somsip> Marfu: the maintainers for packages are usually listed on Launchpad
[09:25] <gsilva> bekks, when putting the address of the repository via system settings
[09:25] <Marfu> somsip, I have a font and would like to put it to repo
[09:25] <somsip> gsilva: is this a ppa?
[09:25] <gsilva> I did as this article suggests: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10
[09:25] <sledgeDJ_> hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[09:25] <gsilva> I believe it is a ppa, yes
[09:25] <sledgeDJ_> can anyone please help?
[09:25] <Marfu> somsip, Can You show me where exactly?
[09:25] <bekks> gsilva: dude, tone down and look out for someone else still wanting to help you. I dont want to help you anymore. Good luck.
[09:25] <somsip> !packaging | Marfu
[09:26] <Radon_3> so my clamav antivirus says that it is out dated cause a new version is out, is the new version going to be provided by the repositories or I have to get it from the clamav website and install it myself?
[09:26] <gsilva> sledgeDJ_, try Wine. I believe it's the best option
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav
[09:26] <Ben64> sledgeDJ: you can try asking in #winehq and  you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine
[09:26] <wigirc> Does synaptic write his logs in /var/log/apt/history.log?
[09:27] <somsip> gsilva: PPAs are not supported here, though from that link it's not entirely clear if it's a PPA or an official client. I can't help either way
[09:27] <gsilva> it's not an official client, otherwise you could download it from Spotify's website
[09:28] <gsilva> Anyways, thanks for helping. I guess the repository is out-of-date
[09:28] <somsip> gsilva: official as in 'official to Ubuntu'
[09:29] <gsilva> it's official, somsip: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/spotify-linux-preview-update-new-design
[09:29] <somsip> gsilva: I can't help you. Maybe someone else casn
[09:29] <somsip> *can
[09:29] <gsilva> alright, seems fair
[09:29] <gsilva> thanks though
[09:34] <thecha> how can i compile a file in ubuntu?
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !compile
[09:35] <thecha> thaks cfhowlett
[09:35] <cfhowlett> thecha happy to help
[09:38] <basiclaser> hey guys where/when can i get my hands on a ubuntu tablet?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !touch | basiclaser
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> basiclaser: its already possible to install ubuntu-touch on some devices, oem phones comming this fall
[09:40] <moldy> hi
[09:40] <moldy> any idea how to get wifi working on a macbook pro with 14.04?
[09:44] <MO_Handes> I want my squid proxy server to keep log files from know till ever and does not remove them, is it done by default or should I configure it?
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> !squid | MO_Handes
[09:45] <cfhowlett> basiclaser presently there IS no ubuntu tablet ...
[09:45] <llutz> MO_Handes: you have to check logrotates config for squid too
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: some devices should have touch support on ubuntu desktop 14.04
[09:47] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje true but so far as I know, no OEM's are being sold with ubuntu pre-installed - which is my response to the question I thought he was asking.
[09:47] <basiclaser> cfhowlett: thanks
[09:47] <basiclaser> lotuspsychje: thanks
[09:48] <cfhowlett> basiclaser happy to help
[10:01] <receptionist> 有说中文的吗
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !cn | receptionist
[10:01] <DJones> !cn | receptionist
[10:01] <sledgeDJ> can anyone please help?
[10:01] <sledgeDJ> can anyone please help?
[10:01] <sledgeDJ> hey guys... I am trying to get a few windows programs... bing ads editor and google adwords editor to work on ubuntu. does anyone know how to do this and can show me how. or can anyone do it for me? I will pay.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> sledgeDJ: wine or virtualbox windows
[10:02] <cfhowlett> sledgeDJ these ^^^
[10:03] <Ben64> sledgeDJ: stop asking the same question over and over again without listening to the answer. I replied with this twice already, read it. You can try asking in #winehq and you should check the AppDB to see if it works in Wine
[10:04] <bekks> sledgeDJ: Install virtualbox, create a vm, install windows, and run your software.
[10:06] <Fly80> hello, i have a vpn client (FortiClientSSLVPN) that I have to launch to connect to a VPN. Is it possible to integrate it in the network-manager connections in some way?
[10:21] <user123321> Ubuntu which has been installed through Windows 7 suddenly stopped booting. When I choose Ubuntu and it freezes on a "purple" background. Pressing ctrl+alt+del and choosing Ubuntu again had no luck. Please help. :|
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> user123321  "through windows 7"... you mean wubi?
[10:22] <user123321> MonkeyDust: Umm, not sure what's it called. I installed Ubuntu while on Windows 7. No virtual machine.
[10:22] <sr71black> Yes, through wubi so
[10:22] <user123321> Maybe it's wubi.
[10:23] <sr71black> yes
[10:23] <cfhowlett> user123321 wubi is dying, dead, no longer developed or supported.   consider your options
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> user123321  such installation is supposed to be used for testing reasons only
[10:24] <sr71black> user123321: but... I have doubts, user123321, whats version of Ubuntu are you using for wubi? It's strange if it is in 14.014
[10:24] <sr71black> sorry, 14.04
[10:25] <sr71black> for testing only is a dvdlive
[10:25] <Sohron> wubi is not supported anymore, not for a while in fact
[10:25] <sr71black> yes, but, please, user123321 are you using 14.04 version?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> user123321 start windows.  install virtualbox.  download 32 bit lubuntu or xubuntu.  Install x/l/ubuntu into the virtualbox.    OR you could do a proper dual boot
[10:26] <user123321> It's 12.xx latest, LTS.
[10:26] <sr71black> the latest LTS is 14.04
[10:27] <user123321> Oh, maybe then it was released recently? hmm.
[10:27] <sr71black> I recommend you install on another disk or a partition with Ubuntu 14.04
[10:27] <bekks> user123321: It was released in April.
[10:27] <sr71black> or their familiar like Lubuntu, Xubuntu, whatever you want
[10:29] <user123321> Oh, mine seems yo be old, downloaded around jan it seems - ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[10:29] <user123321> to be old*
[10:29] <sr71black> yes, it's old
[10:29] <cfhowlett> user123321 it's still supported, but current version is 12.04.4
[10:30] <user123321> cfhowlett: Would it have been updated to that version through update manager? Because I make sure it's updated. That file name, I got it from what's inside my Windows.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> user123321 depends on the command you gave.  apt-get update would not change the version.  apt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade all packages to the latest available in the distro, i.e. 12.04.3 to 12.04.4
[10:31] <user123321> So, wubi is out? I should either, 1. VM, OR, 2. dual boot?
[10:31] <sr71black> user123321: I suggest you to make a clean install, because through an update could make some problems by the sources
[10:31] <bekks> user123321: Use a VM. Wubi never was "in" besides for testing purposes.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> user123321 yep.
[10:32] <user123321> cfhowlett: I did through GUI update manager :|
[10:33] <cfhowlett> user123321 easiest thing to do:  choose the distro you want (14.04 is LTS).  download the correct ISO.  choose your install method.  clean install.
[10:34] <sr71black> : I'm agree with cfhowlett, I suggest you a clean install. Is the best option
[10:34] <user123321> Cool. Thanks.
[10:34] <wigirc> cfhowlett, but before backup all important stuff
[10:35] <wigirc> user123321, but before backup all important stuff
[10:35] <cfhowlett> wigirc user123321 EXACTOMUNDO!  backup ^3
[10:35] <sr71black> yes, of course, backup is better thing to do before a clean install
[10:35] <user123321> Cool. Umm, if I don't have a DVD atm to write, how can I dual boot?
[10:36] <sr71black> if you don't have a dvd, so, you can install through usb
[10:36] <cfhowlett> user123321 USB?
[10:37] <sr71black> in 12.xx, there is a USB application to make write an iso image to an usb device
[10:37] <user123321> Cool, I'll try.
[10:37] <sr71black> I don't remember, I think it's called "USB Creator"
[10:37] <wigirc> user123321, if you use windows ultraiso makes boot-usb
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !usb|user123321
[10:37] <sometux> anyone could recommend a monitoring tool to remotly monitor 40 mixed windows/linux servers?
[10:38] <bekks> sometux: nagios or icinga.
[10:38] <user123321> Thanks everyone.
[10:38] <sr71black> user123321: Not at all
[10:41] <user123321> Right now I have this NTFS partition on which I have installed wubi Ubuntu, so would I be able to dual-boot install Ubuntu on that partition (by formatting to Linux partition type, ofc), without messing up my Windows?
[10:42] <bekks> user123321: BAckup everything, install Ubuntu as dualboot.
[10:42] <user123321> bekks: backup even my Windows?
[10:42] <bekks> user123321: Sure.
[10:42] <sr71black> And then, remove the Ubuntu installed via Wubi
[10:42] <sr71black> or so you will get two Ubuntu
[10:43] <user123321> sr71black: Oh, how can I do that?
[10:43] <jimi_> After upgrading, my gnome desktop now has this area between the bottom of my app, and the bottom bar that shows my running apps. And next to the switcher there is a number like (1) (2) etc and that shows the apps that are running that have some attention needed, but for instance xchat only flashes if i look there. how can i  fix this behavior?
[10:43] <sr71black> Wubi is like an program, you can remove it in add-remove programm of windows
[10:43] <sr71black> like another one in windows
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> user123321  backup your ubuntu documents somewhere, then remove wubi in Windows 'add or remove programs'
[10:44] <user123321> MonkeyDust: Cool.
[10:45] <user123321> MonkeyDust: Oh gosh, I just realized I can't login to Ubuntu at first instance :O o.O
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> user123321   did you have any importants docs in ubuntu?
[10:48] <gry> files, perhaps - not always docs
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> yes, files, rather
[10:48] <user123321> Hmm, it's alright. I can let them go away.
[10:49] <user123321> I wish WUBI installation told me "for testing purposes only" :/
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> user123321  the wubi project is dead, so it won't be updated anymore
[10:54] <profe_valle> hello
[10:54] <alumno211314> hola
[10:54] <profe_valle> hola chula
[10:54] <alumno21314_> hola
[10:54] <profe_valle> hola alberto
[10:54] <alumno211314> alberto feoooooooooooooooooooo
[10:54] <alberr> hola profe
[10:55] <alberr> july feaaa
[10:55] <user123321> I'm downloading 14.04 LTS. Hoping to make a nice dual boot. Wish me luck.
[10:55] <alumno21314_> luck
[10:55] <alberr> luck
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> me luck
[10:56] <profe_valle> si
[10:56] <DJones> alumno21314_: alberr profe_valle Please stop that, this a support channel, not a chat channel
[10:56] <profe_valle> i am sorry
[10:56] <costelacionX> hello
[10:56] <alumno41314_> jaja
[10:56] <alumno21314_> sorryyyy
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> !es | profe_valle
[10:56] <profe_valle> bie
[10:57] <anonimo> jaja+
[10:57] <user123321> So, thanks everyone! Hoping to login here again with freshly installed Ubuntu. see ya :)
[11:08] <Droidz7> Hey guys. I need help with something. How do I make a usb drive automount as a folder on startup?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | Droidz7
[11:09] <Droidz7> i tried editing fstab
[11:37] <metamorpy> Hey guys, I'm having an annoying issue with 14.04. The wireless dies when screen goes to sleep, even though the machine is still on. I can see slight wireless activity, but when pinging the machine i just get 100% packet loss. Anyone else experienced similar issues?
[11:38] <metamorpy> Actually it happens randomly even when the screen is still on.
[11:39] <mantas> is zen.spamhaus.org down?
[11:39] <philinux> metamorpy;~ hang on i'll test it
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> mantas  yes
[11:41] <philinux> metamorpy;~ just tested and wireless stayed on
[11:42] <Pessimist> metamorpy: dmesg output ?
[11:42] <philinux> metamorpy;~ although i dont have screen lock on that may be it
[11:42] <metamorpy> it drops out when screen is on too now. so might not be related to that at all ..
[11:43] <metamorpy> i suspect it might be a realtek chip wireless. :(
[11:43] <bekks> metamorpy: So check that then.
[11:44] <Pessimist> metamorpy: so what's the output of dmesg?
[11:44] <metamorpy> the entire thing in the chat?
[11:44] <Pessimist> paste it...
[11:44] <Pessimist> in a pastebin
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> metamorpy  use a pastebin
[11:46] <metamorpy> http://pastebin.com/5y5DPARz
[11:49] <kalohr> quit
[11:49] <metamorpy> It's very strange, i can sometimes ping it into responding again, and sometimes not.
[11:50] <Pessimist> metamorpy: rt2800usb is pretty buggy: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62781
[11:52] <metamorpy> that explains it ^^, got any recommendations for a wireless card or brand i can buy for a linux based machine?
[11:52] <bekks> metamorpy: Get some Intel chipset.
[11:55] <metamorpy> ok, thanks :) i'll see what i can find
[11:56] <metamorpy> has it gotten worse with later ubuntu versions btw? i think 13.04 or something was very stable.
[11:58] <shunya_chakra> hi can be open a file manager directly from terminal?
[11:58] <philinux> shunya_chakra;~ type in nautilus in terminal
[11:58] <shunya_chakra> cool, thanks philinux
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> metamorpy: 14.04 is nice and improved alot, stable as 13.04
[11:59] <philinux> shunya_chakra;~ check out man nautilus for all terminal options
[12:00] <shunya_chakra> philinux, i like this it got lot of options... my hands get hurt when i move to mouse :P
[12:01] <philinux> metamorpy;~ I've got this chip on my lappy and its wifi is rock solid Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)
[12:01] <philinux> shunya_chakra;~ glad to be of assistance
[12:02] <shunya_chakra> philinux, thanks! a lot!!!
[12:02] <shunya_chakra> :)
[12:04] <metamorpy> thanks philinux
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> metamorpy: did you try ralink website for latest drivers?
[12:05] <metamorpy> not yet.
[12:07] <RamiC> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu on my HP DV6 laptop and it is overheating
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: wich ubuntu version plz?
[12:09] <RamiC> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:09] <compdoc> RamiC, seems to be a common problem with some laptops
[12:14] <metamorpy> thanks for the help guys! i have to run, but i'll look into getting a new driver or wireless card.
[12:14] <RamiC> I have 2 graphics card, one Intel 3rd Gen Core & one Nvidia GEforce GT 630M
[12:14] <RamiC> Anything to do with that?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: yes some graphics drivers/cards can influence heating problems
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: maybe check your additional driver setion to see if other drivers show up?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> RamiC: doublecheck if your bios has powersettings maybe