[07:17] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:20] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:26] <shauno> o/
[07:33] <ali1234> wow i found out how to win at reddit
[07:34] <ali1234> all you have to do is bash republicans apparently
[07:42] <MooDoo> ali1234: something to keep you busy today then :D
[09:10] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:12] <MooDoo> morning
[09:16] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:33] <popey> morning
[09:33] <MooDoo> morning alan
[09:34] <brobostigon> morning
[15:37] <bashrc> is there any way to dismiss notifications before they disappear?
[15:38] <shauno> the only reliable method I've found, is to close your eyes and count mississippis
[15:38] <bashrc> |-)
[15:38] <bashrc> it's a paper cut really
[15:50] <bashrc> have been trying and failing to get a t-mobile usb broadband adapter working
[15:52] <shauno> no help here .. I gave up and got a little 'mifi' gizmo that shares my 3g over wifi.  compatibility issues disappeared
[15:52] <bashrc> like a hotspot?
[15:54] <shauno> yeah
[15:54] <bashrc> I might do the same.
[15:55] <shauno> there's probably much more straightforward solutions.  just saying I've got nothing to offer because I gave up on that one.  wifi made it work on everything in one swoop
[15:55] <bashrc> seems pretty hopeless, and the amount of time I've spent on this is silly
[15:57] <ali1234> bashrc: on xfce there is
[15:57] <ali1234> (notifications)
[15:58] <ali1234> you could probably even just swap out the notifiation daemon
[16:06] <leo_33\> are uk recruters all liars?
[16:06] <shauno> I'm not sure it's specific to the UK.
[16:07] <leo_33\> the UK ones are worst than some of the ones i came accross in europe
[16:13] <bashrc> I don't have experience with continental recruiters, but UK ones are typically rotten
[16:15] <shauno> well, the premise is flawed from the outset, imho.  their best interest isn't your best interest, and the outcome is pretty predictable
[16:15] <bashrc> its the old saying "if you're not the customer you're the product being sold"
[16:16] <bashrc> In the recent past I've found recruiters to be unreliable and sometimes rude.
[16:20] <bashrc> The mifi device looks like a better option
[16:21] <bashrc> then I could set up a wifi hotspot anywhere, in theory
[16:28] <shauno> that's pretty much what I do, yeah.  it was a combination of my modem having exceptionally ancient drivers for osx, and bad 3g reception meaning the desk was a bad place to put the modem
[17:45] <brobostigon> good evening everyone.
[17:48] <popey> yo
[17:48] <brobostigon> evening your popey'ness
[17:50] <popey> Pancakes for tea!
[17:51] <Cloud80> Hi Popey. Nice!
[17:51] <brobostigon> the brobostigon'ator has sausages and rice.
[17:51] <penguin42> roar!
[17:59] <popey> well technically the kids are having pancakeds
[18:58] <ali1234> ok i just got a password reset request email from instagram
[18:58] <ali1234> but i don't have an intragram account
[18:59] <ali1234> but now i do
[19:01] <ali1234> i think i must have pissed someone off as i'm getting a large amount of spam from fake dating sites and so on
[19:06] <popey> yeah, sorry.
[19:06] <popey> is it going to a catch all address, or your real email address?
[19:12] <ali1234> my real email address, except without the .'s
[19:13] <ali1234> maybe they are just making instagram account with like, aaaaaaaa@gmail, <EMAIL_ADDRESS>and so on
[19:13] <ali1234> i would be the 8 billionth spam account under such a scheme
[19:14] <ali1234> i sent a bug report anyway
[19:14] <ikonia> ali1234: send me the IP that it's being relayed from, I'm building a new personal RBL for spamming fools
[19:14] <ali1234> it was sent legit from instagram
[19:14] <ali1234> that's the point
[19:14] <ikonia> ah,
[19:15] <ali1234> someone signed up for an account there using my email, without me knowning
[19:15] <ali1234> which should be impossible
[19:15] <popey> yeah, i had that with xbox live and sky
[19:15] <popey> i still get stuff from both
[19:15] <ikonia> I've never seen that
[19:17] <penguin42> I don't think I've had that; although I keep getting catalogues delivered by post addressed to a 'Rolf Neversyn'
[19:35] <brobostigon> are the stas working fine still ?
[19:35] <brobostigon> stats*
[19:44] <popey> looks like it
[19:46] <daubers> Evening
[19:48] <dutchie> hi daubers
[19:48] <daubers> intellij + github seems to = lots of fun :(
[19:49] <penguin42> intellij?
[19:49] <popey> pip pip
[19:49] <daubers> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
[19:50] <brobostigon> cool, thank you popey .
[19:50] <brobostigon> if anyone notices any issues please be free to tell me.
[19:50] <penguin42> daubers: What's the UI designer like - I normally spend ages fighting to get layout how I want (although I very rarely do stuff like that)
[19:51] <daubers> penguin42: The little I've used of it, it's ok
[21:49] <smilin> Hi, wondering if anyone can give me a bit of help with connecting windows phone as msd in linux
[21:50] <popey> evening
[21:51] <smilin> hi popey
[21:52] <bigcalm> A quick google says that WP doesn't support MSD but does have MTP
[21:53] <bigcalm> This is a quick google, your mileage may vary
[21:53] <bigcalm> Morning popey
[21:54] <bigcalm> I just ordered a Hudl for Hayley as a wedding present - I hope she realises by now what kind of monster she's marrying
[21:55] <smilin> the problem i have, is that i moved files using mtp in windows, and it corrupted them, and everyone plays the same video. even thought the files are all different sizes. I want to get access to the device as msd so i can use testdisk or similar to recover these very personal videos
[21:56] <bigcalm> directhex: do you still use a WP?
[21:56] <smilin> been scouring the web for the pas two hours with no luck. tried three variants of windows, and now ubuntu
[21:57] <bigcalm> popey: what news from the Southern front?
[22:04] <directhex> bigcalm, no. and you're correct, it's MTP-only
[22:05] <bigcalm> directhex: ta, can't remember who has one now
[22:06] <smilin> damn. wonder if i can get an image of the phone say as a vhd backup and mount that instead
[22:32]  * popey is at his mums house
[22:32] <popey> her silly wifi only seems to work in a very isolated spot
[22:32] <popey> which happens to be my old bedroom
[22:38] <bigcalm> Spooky
[22:42] <Myrtti> I'm still totally surprised that there's an awesome book publishing kickstarter platform
[22:42] <Myrtti> I just learnt about this about half an hour ago
[22:47] <Myrtti> so much for "I'll go to bed before 2am, I promise"
[23:10] <popey> Myrtti: you should listen to the podcast ☻  we mentioned unbound a few times
[23:10] <popey> laura got a book from some UK green car celeb from it
[23:22] <bigcalm> popey: Kryton
[23:22] <popey> thassim
[23:22] <bigcalm> Scrap heap challenge
[23:51] <czajkowski> ello
[23:51] <AlanBell> o/ czajkowski
[23:56] <popey> yo


[02:02] <richie_> hi
[03:39] <Roey> hi
[03:39] <Roey> why does locate not seem to work anymore for me??
[03:39] <Roey> 'updatedb' executes and returns instantly.
[03:39] <Roey> so I don't think it's doin anything
[05:06] <user|38> What format do I need using this app?
[05:25] <user|31> just downloaded kubuntu 20.10 1 question location of power off button thank you
[05:30] <mybalzitch> top right?
[05:30] <mybalzitch> er no
[05:30] <mybalzitch> hit the k button, then you should see a power icon
[05:50] <user|31> thank you
[12:34] <kubuntu> hello
[12:35] <User02> hello
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[20:11] <eduardp> Hi, my name is Eduard, sorry to bother... I am looking for kde 5.26 on kubuntu 22.04. I don't know if it is going to be a thing or once 22.10 is up, there is no backport to 22.04 anymore. Can anyone clarify it?
[20:12] <oerheks> LTS aims to be stable, so no newer versions. just bugfixes.
[20:13] <eduardp> I wouldn't mind to install 22.10 but upgrade paths are a mess, and it happened to me more than once that when I want to upgrade a system without LTS, if it toke some years since the last upgrade, then all are problems.
[20:14] <oerheks> ehm did you encounter problems upgrading 22.04 to 22.10?
[20:14] <eduardp> So I prefer to keep LTS but I want the last KDE... Can wait if its is going to exists...
[20:15] <oerheks> if not, your experience from the past might not apply to the situation today, have fun upgrading!
[20:15] <eduardp> I did not try.
[20:16] <oerheks> there is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta for testing 5.26, but then you are on your own.
[20:16] <oerheks> oh, i see it is empty, sorry
[20:17] <eduardp> I might (surely will), but I wanted to avoid it. It easily happens to me that I don't upgrade a system after a year or so... and then I find that the distro I want to upgrade into don't even exists and I must play with source.list and make all sort of ugly things.
[20:17] <oerheks> then stick to stable LTS.
[20:18] <eduardp> Right now I have stable running 5.25. So I wanted to test stable+kde 5.26...
[20:20] <oerheks> there is no 'stable+kde 5.26' .. that would be 22.10, non LTS.
[20:20] <oerheks> 9 months support.
[20:20] <eduardp> It would be great if kubuntu/ubuntu install path was a little bit different, letting you jump always from an intermediate release to LTS.
[20:20] <eduardp> to the next LTS i mean...
[20:21] <oerheks> one can, if the upgrade starts within the support period
[20:22] <eduardp> I understand the 9 months support and I don't pretend there should be more support. Yet, the problem is that distros are removed from the servers.
[20:22] <oerheks> no, old-releases keeps one server alive.
[20:23] <oerheks> and it is a good thing, old kubuntu servers should not be available to install, it is a security risk
[20:24] <eduardp>  I know... that is how I managed to upgrade the systems other times, yet it is not easy.
[20:24] <oerheks> it is easy.
[20:24] <oerheks> one get notified a newer (non-lts) version is available.
[20:24] <oerheks> lolz
[20:25] <eduardp> I don't agree about the security reason. Nobody is going to download and install an old version if he has a new one available.
[20:25] <oerheks> this conversation is going beyond the scope of support. your arguments are invalid.
[20:25] <oerheks> good luck upgrading or using LTS!
[20:25] <eduardp> Ok, you are right, sorry to bother.
[20:36] <daniele_> Buonasera, ho ripreso un PC fermo da temp con su la 21.10 ... non riesce a fare alcun aggiornaemnto, da errori sui repo. Credo perchè sia EOL, come faccio ad avanzare?
[20:36] <daniele_> Potete darmi qualche link a della DOC?
[20:37] <oerheks> daniele_, upgrade to 22.04 with the eolupgrade factoid
[20:38] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[20:38] <oerheks> see last url
[20:38] <daniele_> Thank you man! I think this is italian chat, sorry for misstake <3


[00:35] <oerheks_> grinn, Ben64, comfy desktop on the server
[00:36] <Ben64> can't help people who don't want it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[00:36] <oerheks_> .. or better, run a steam game over x2go/vnc over ssh
[00:36] <Ben64> he doesn't even want to run games, just game servers
[00:37] <oerheks_> ah right, a gamebot
[00:37]  * oerheks_ drops it like it is hot
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> edited bug #1704409
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> and solved
[07:19] <ducasse> morning all
[07:51] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:53] <oerheks_> :-)
[07:53] <lordievader> Hey oerheks_, how are you doing?
[07:55] <oerheks_> done shopping for food, i am alright now
[08:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[08:47] <oerheks_> heya BluesKaj
[08:48] <ducasse> \o BluesKaj - all well?
[08:49] <BluesKaj> Hi oerheks_, ducasse , some insomnia, but I'll have a nap later, and you ducasse?
[08:50] <BluesKaj> and you oerheks_,?
[08:50] <ducasse> all quiet, getting ready to make some lunch soon
[08:51]  * BluesKaj goes for another coffee
[08:55] <immu> good afternoon gentlemen
[08:55] <immu> gentlemens :)
[08:59] <BluesKaj> Hi immu you were right the first time
[09:00] <oerheks_> insomnia, yeah, lately
[09:01] <ducasse> same here, all the light i guess
[09:01] <immu> meaning BluesKaj :) i added a S
[09:01] <BluesKaj> men is already plural . man is singular
[09:03] <immu> yeah
[09:03] <BluesKaj> unless of course it was a joke or some such
[09:03] <immu> kind offf
[09:03] <BluesKaj> pk, my mistake ;-)
[09:04] <oerheks_> ... girls
[09:04] <BluesKaj> kinda grumpy here, not enough sleep
[09:04] <oerheks_> behave, mark might be reading here too
[09:04] <oerheks_> :-P
[09:06] <immu> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-automatically-switch-sound-bluetooth
[09:09] <BluesKaj> bluetooth speakers are battery kijjers ...a pita
[09:10] <BluesKaj> killers even
[09:11] <BluesKaj> I guess they'll last if they're not played too loud
[09:21] <immu> if you got bluetooth speakers its nice to see the Os switch to it automatically, you use it or don't its upto you
[09:24] <BluesKaj> my friend's JBL BT speaker sounded great, but he compained about the battery needing recharging quite often
[09:27] <immu> always buy with DC power. if you don't want stuff dying on you
[09:28] <ducasse> the whole point with bt is no wires, if you need dc power just buy wired stuff
[09:29] <BluesKaj> the bass response was quite amazing from such a small enclosure. We were away from any power source so it needed the battery..lithium ion I think
[09:31] <immu> mine idea is a bluetooth speaker powered by DC , at some corner in the room and you can njoy the music, video or any audio while working at your desk :)
[09:37] <BluesKaj> I'm an old audio guy so my pc is connected to a fairly large audio system and TV. I've had a simiiar audio setup since the early 70's
[09:39] <BluesKaj> no computer of course, but TV audio thru a hifi audio system was very new then and required a simple line level connection from the audio preamp ion the TV to a hifi amplifier
[09:40] <BluesKaj> mono sound , but it was FM quality
[09:47] <ducasse> 'dopest'?
[09:47] <ducasse> lol
[09:52] <immu> oldschool
[09:54] <BluesKaj> dopest'???
[09:55] <immu> dope tech for newer stuff and dopest might be for older stuff
[09:56] <ducasse> then what am i? he sounds like a kid to me.
[09:57] <oerheks_> 4 weeks to go to see abraham
[09:57] <immu> who? BluesKaj
[09:59] <BluesKaj> nevermind immu, i don't know what dopest means
[09:59] <ducasse> i just thought it sounded silly :)
[10:01] <BluesKaj> I suppose it might if I knew what it meant
[10:12] <immu> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dopest BluesKaj :)
[10:16] <BluesKaj> that word isn't found in my dictionary :-)
[12:49] <andy19888> hello / Hallo
[14:24] <immu> hi BluesKaj ducasse lordievader ???? hi
[14:58] <ducasse> greetings and salutations, EriC^^ - enjoying summer?
[14:59] <EriC^^> ducasse: greetings, yup it's pretty hot though, how about you?
[15:00] <ducasse> about 25°C here, i think? dunno, but it's not unpleasant yet :)
[15:00] <EriC^^> nice 25'c is perfect
[15:01] <EriC^^> which country are you from again?
[15:01] <ducasse> norway, so 25c is pretty hot for here
[15:06] <immu> 25 should be best temp for s*x
[15:06] <immu> ducasse, temp in AE are hovering at around 43 degree C
[15:14] <immu> any comments? ducasse EriC^^ ?
[15:14] <ducasse> good thing they have a ski slope, then. /s
[15:14] <immu> EriC^^, where are you from?
[15:14] <EriC^^> lebanon
[15:15] <EriC^^> you?
[15:16] <immu> are you lebnany?
[15:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:16] <immu> i am from UAE/AE, currently resident
[15:16] <EriC^^> which country?
[15:17] <immu> India/Indian
[15:17] <immu> IND
[15:17] <EriC^^> you mean you're from india originally, residingin the uae now?
[15:17] <EriC^^> or the opposite?
[15:18] <immu> from India residing in UAE
[15:18] <EriC^^> aha
[15:18] <EriC^^> which country in the uae?
[15:20] <immu> dubai
[15:20] <EriC^^> ah nice
[15:24] <immu> whats your realname EriC^^ you can PM me :)
[15:25] <EriC^^> i was born in the us
[15:25] <EriC^^> my parents are lebanese though
[15:25] <EriC^^> raised here since i was 5-6years old
[15:45] <EriC^^> there are 400+ users in #ubuntu-unregged
[15:46] <EriC^^> i guess those are people who have their irc clients like irc cloud and such autojoin
[15:46] <EriC^^> and they're not on their accounts right now
[15:51] <ducasse> there's always a *ton* of people in #ubuntu who never seem to follow the channel anyway
[15:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:51] <EriC^^> we used to joke that most of the users are bots
[15:52] <EriC^^> 1/3 are confirmed, i guess the rest in the channel 1/2 aren't on the pc but the irc client is properly configured
[15:56] <BluesKaj> heh, autojoin is still enabled, but the users don't realize it
[15:57] <BluesKaj> runs in the taskbar on windows so they don't notice
[15:57] <BluesKaj> like skype
[15:57] <ducasse> in general, users aren't well-known for their technical insight ;)
[16:00] <BluesKaj> I had to use a hack to get rid of unwanted skype on wife's pc since it's enabled by default at boot and was clearly using needed resources.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> wifes pc has W7
[16:05] <ducasse> seems obvious to me that things like skype should definitely not be running unless you tell it to, and disabling should be doable with a single click
[16:24] <BluesKaj> ducasse, skype in now a default enabled app on windows, which runs ready to be launched but using resources for no reason
[16:25] <BluesKaj> bloatware
[16:27] <BluesKaj> anyway we defeated it by removing it from windows update then uninbstalling from add removr programs
[16:33] <BluesKaj> we use the update the hosts file method and so far it's working, if anyone is interested, https://superuser.com/questions/730791/prevent-a-windows-update-from-ever-installing
[16:35] <BluesKaj> also it was preventing wife's pc from shutting down, some kind of bug
[16:37] <immu> Updates from Windows should not be blocked
[16:39] <BluesKaj> it only blocks skype from being reinstalled, she had a windows update yesterday, and she's been skype free for over a week'
[16:40] <immu> why block skype?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> we don't use it
[16:41] <BluesKaj> and it's buggy
[16:42] <immu> no its not, i use it. on Windows, iphone, android.
[16:42] <BluesKaj> well it is here
[16:42] <immu> whats the issue?
[16:43] <immu> i am using it on Windows10 but i don't like the newer version, i like the classic one .
[16:43] <BluesKaj> I'm not advising you to remove it, I'm merely relating our experience with it
[16:43] <immu> but yes the new update on mobile platform is confusing , they should have kept it simple but they are trying to imitate snapchat and instagram all in one
[16:44] <immu> i am also relating my experience :) isn't it.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> ducasse, skype in now a default enabled app on windows, which runs ready to be launched but using resources for no reason, and preventing wife's pc from shutting down
[16:45] <BluesKaj> oops immu^
[16:45] <BluesKaj> I posted that earleir
[16:47] <immu> its ok
[16:47] <immu> i am not so of a stiff person
[16:49] <BluesKaj> i didn't mean to highlight du-casse nick tho
[16:51] <immu> but you can always keep apps from auto starting at boot time
[16:52] <immu> its your PC afterall
[16:53] <BluesKaj> it's done , not worried about it anymore
[16:53] <immu> don't you use skype to keep in touch with your family?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> she didn't want it on her pc, she asked me to get rid of it so I did
[16:56] <immu> i rest my case then :)
[16:56] <BluesKaj> my family doesn't use skype, we use google talk if needed but we mostly use the phone
[16:58] <BluesKaj> we all use voip phones , so there are no worries about long distance charges
[17:01] <immu> oke
[17:02] <immu> brb rebooting into windows to perform maintenance and updates
[17:13] <immu> i am back on Windows, did i commit blasphemy here ? :)
[17:16] <immu> hey BluesKaj ducasse hi :)


[00:00] <mdlpe> Scooty: thanks, works. It's because i din't unlock the widgets. I created a new one it goes itself to the bottom.
[00:01] <mdlpe> Scooty, but I tried to move by cliking on the right item, but I can move the panel
[00:12] <dbrom_> anyone using ddclient with no-ip
[00:43] <mdlpe> bye
[01:28] <ussher_> during a distro upgrade i got to the point of "configuring phpmyadmin" and stupidly used "ctrl+c" thinking 'copy' to copy the mysql username, but it broke out of the package configuration screen.  any way to get it started again?
[01:30] <ussher_> alternatively, where are the backups of the databases stored. if I can copy them off I'll do a clean install /var/lib/mysql is empty.
[04:21] <Guest4504> i tried to make it so i could open a directory with smplayer, which made every directory open with it. trying to change it back to dolphin causes kde connect to start opening infinite dolphin windows. what did I break?
[05:15] <JuanR> hi
[05:21] <JuanR> hi
[07:15] <deavid> hi :-)
[07:15] <deavid> Hi! we installed a fresh kubuntu 16.04 yesterday and this morning we noticed "kate" doesn't show any editor. Is very weird; we open files and they show up in the project but we can't see the contents
[07:15] <deavid> seems a bug on sessions
[07:15] <deavid> but I don't know where kate stores its sessions
[07:16] <deavid> i tried on .config/kate* and deleted those files, but still the same problem
[07:16] <james> s
[07:21] <deavid> found it: some bug saves something in the session that can't be read later. I removed .local/share/kate and now it works again.
[07:45] <mrabhi> hey!
[07:45] <mrabhi> the kubuntu 16.04 torrent iso link doesn't work.
[07:45] <mrabhi> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/kubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:46] <mrabhi> any other links?
[07:47] <mrabhi> I wish to download torrent as my internet breaks in btw
[07:48] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/kubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:49] <Fritigern> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/kubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:49] <valorie> mrabhi: ^^^
[07:49] <Fritigern> LOL!
[07:49] <valorie> 123 you own me a coke!
[07:50] <Fritigern> Own or owe? :-)
[07:50] <mrabhi> Fritigern, valorie thanks!
[07:50] <mrabhi> cheers!
[07:51] <valorie> I seed them all, so you'll have decent speed
[07:51] <valorie> all=all ubuntu releases
[07:51] <mrabhi> do you guys suggest installing kde-neon on kubuntu?
[07:52] <mrabhi> I am using 15.10 right now, I am a bit curious of the stability of latest release.
[07:55] <valorie> Neon has made ISOs now
[07:55] <valorie> I don't think a partial install of Neon is now advised
[07:56] <valorie> I've had few to no bugs with 16.04
[07:56] <valorie> and I've been running it since beta
[07:56] <yossarianuk> found a bug with network manager
[07:57] <yossarianuk> you cannot change an existing wired interface settings - you have to remove and re-add
[07:59] <valorie> yossarianuk: did you report the bug?
[08:00] <yossarianuk> valorie: not yet
[08:01] <yossarianuk> I shall do..
[08:01] <yossarianuk> to see it - just try to change a setting on an existing wired interface
[08:02] <yossarianuk> May  5 09:01:36 mcox-N552VW NetworkManager[810]: <info>  [1462435296.8551] audit: op="connection-update" uuid="c91931f0-15d1-4d29-9b76-e80ef5a4abcd" name="Wired connection 1" result="fail" reason="connection.gateway-ping-timeout: can not set property: value "34163392" of type 'guint' is invalid or out of range for property 'gateway-ping-timeout' of type 'guint'"
[08:02] <yossarianuk> thats is you change dhcp to dhcp address only, or add a dns server, etc (any change)
[08:03] <valorie> not sure if that is a kde bug or ours
[08:03] <yossarianuk> (not sure if same on wifi)
[08:03] <valorie> just do `ubuntu-bug network-manager` in the cli
[08:03] <valorie> easiest, best
[08:03] <yossarianuk> will do
[08:03] <valorie> !info network-manager
[08:03] <valorie> yeah, with the dash in the middle
[08:04] <yossarianuk> its happenening on multiple machines also...
[08:05] <valorie> it would be good to report that as well
[08:09] <yossarianuk> my only other issue with 16.04 was on my work laptop with hybrid graphics - the livecd (usb) would only boot  randomly once in about 5 times.
[08:09] <yossarianuk> once it did thoough and I was able to install it once I got rid of the nouveau driver and replaced with nvidia/intel i was fine.
[08:10] <yossarianuk> my desktop (same usb stick) had no issues.
[08:15] <yossarianuk> bug report filed : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1578533
[08:16] <yossarianuk> its really easy to test this bug - can someone do so and let the bug report know if it effects you ?
[08:18] <yossarianuk> looks similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574826
[08:35] <chuck__> morning guys, is there any way to install propriatary drivers via GUI on kubuntu? I get flickering when closing/opening windows and have tearing while scrolling. 9600M GS. Driver manager just displays "Collecting information about your system" forever
[08:38] <yossarianuk> chuck__: yes there is
[08:38] <yossarianuk> chuck__:  can you repor this bug though (happened to me to)
[08:39] <chuck__> yossarianuk: So actually this would have been the right way?
[08:39] <yossarianuk> chuck__:   best to go to a tty
[08:39] <yossarianuk> (ctrl + alt + f2)
[08:39] <yossarianuk> do a  'sudo service sddm stop'
[08:39] <yossarianuk> (you may need to re-login to tty
[08:39] <yossarianuk> then
[08:40] <yossarianuk> sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
[08:41] <yossarianuk> I would also install intel-microcode update too
[08:41] <yossarianuk> sudo apt-get install intel-microcode
[08:42] <chuck__> yossarianuk: Thank you! I'll copy that instructions and try them after I'm done working!
[08:43] <yossarianuk> (reboot after installing the driver)
[08:43] <chuck__> Okay, thanks :) Can't reboot right now. I'll send you a PN and let you know if it worked though later
[08:46] <yossarianuk> good stuff
[09:10] <chuck__> yossarianuk: Thanks! It worked :)
[09:54] <yossarianuk> chuck__: glad to hear that - enjoy !
[10:43] <rd_> hey is there a date for RC?
[10:43] <soee> RC ?
[10:44] <rd_> oh the lts is out?
[10:44] <rd_> 16.04?
[10:45] <soee> yes it is out like 2 weeks already
[10:46] <rd_> oh ok lol
[10:46] <rd_> I havent expected LTS versions so close togther in kubuntu for sometime
[10:46] <rd_> 14 & 16
[10:47] <rd_> google bring up the beta first....
[10:47] <rd_> soee: you running it?
[10:48] <soee> 14 was released 2 years ago
[10:48] <soee> rd_: yes i am running it for a long time already - since first betas
[10:49] <rd_> nice? any strong complaints
[10:50] <soee> almost none :)
[10:50] <rd_> nice, look good for a rushed LTS then
[10:50] <rd_> I havent been on plasma 5 yet
[10:52] <rd_> love kde hate how little traction it gets in distros, although this seems to be changing
[10:53] <soee> ;]
[10:55] <rd_> HATE THERE ISNT A QT version of chrome, ff and disks utility that has SMART controls built in
[10:55] <rd_> WISH upon a star that would happen
[10:59] <kevin123> rd_ https://github.com/papylhomme/diskmonitor
[10:59] <kevin123> unless you mean a tool that can partition and has smart in it?
[10:59] <kevin123> then I'm not sure
[11:00] <rd_> kevin123: can this set smart controls
[11:00] <kevin123> not sure, never tried it, sorry
[11:01] <rd_> https://github.com/papylhomme/diskmonitor/commit/1f1711880716350033969386b96f459446fe2c25
[11:03] <rd_> how do I find out more about this and if it available?
[11:04] <kevin123> doesn't look like there's any compiled builds other than for arch linux
[11:05] <rd_> grrr
[11:06] <rd_> also looks like it is just the monitor and scrubber for RAIS
[11:06] <rd_> d*
[11:06] <rd_> so close, I dont know how kubuntu has gone without a proper SMART utility for so long
[11:08] <kevin123> KDE Partition Manager supposedly has smart capabilities
[11:08] <kevin123> according to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179266#c2
[11:12] <rd_> kevin123: not that I can see
[11:13] <rd_> kevin123: like gnome disk utility is boss
[11:14] <rd_> spindown, smart test, all kinds of things,
[11:37] <yossarianuk> rd_: shame about the rest of the gnome-desktop....
[11:37] <yossarianuk> rd_:  you can always use cli smart tools
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:38] <rd_> yossarianuk: right, but man the ink kevin123 sent is so close....
[11:41] <markit> hi, just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, something went wrong because now I've the old theme at login and desktop background, and not task/whatever panel shown, any idea about what are the crytical packages that I could be missing? plasma-desktop is there and with the right version
[11:42] <BluesKaj> markit, run, sudo apt install plasma-desktop, then update and upgrade agian
[11:43] <markit> BluesKaj: of course says "plasma-desktop is already the newest version (4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1)."
[11:43] <BluesKaj> also , sudo systemctl enable sddm ..then you may have to reboot
[11:43] <markit> also reinstall did not solved
[11:44] <markit> the upgrade process in 14.04 -> 16.04 migration stuck at 100% cpu for 20 minutes in libreoffice reconfiguration, so I rebooted
[11:44] <BluesKaj> systemd is now the replacemenr for init and upstart
[11:45] <markit> systemctl enable sddm seems that wants to connect with.. .upstart!
[11:45] <markit> initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[11:46] <BluesKaj> maybe you don't have sddm installed , it replaces kdm and lightdm
[11:47] <markit> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/h3gam1mV
[11:47] <markit> let's look for those packages
[11:48] <markit> I still have lightdm, let's remove
[11:48] <BluesKaj> markit, sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:49] <markit> done but already, I'm here after 1 hour of temptatives, sigh
[11:49] <markit> but maybe the lighttdm stuff is the key
[11:49] <BluesKaj> markit, I'll bet you didn't update and upgrade your 14.04 packages before upgrading to 16.04
[11:49] <markit> I did
[11:49] <markit> seems that a lot of config stuff fails due to upstart errors
[11:50] <BluesKaj> remove lightdm and install sddm if needed
[11:52] <markit> it's a pity that if you reinstall a metapackage, it does not install all is missing but just itself :(
[11:52] <markit> I'm rebooting the other pc, let's cross the fingers
[11:54] <markit> BluesKaj: great! Now it woks, thanks a LOT! Has been very slow in recreating some cache stuff I guess, but now I've the desktop
[11:55] <markit> BluesKaj: are you involved in kde development, by chance? I've old problems with LTSP and kde...
[11:55] <BluesKaj> markit, cool :-)
[11:55] <BluesKaj> markit, no just an old tester
[11:57] <markit> BluesKaj: well, thanks  a BIG thank again, you saved my day
[11:57] <BluesKaj> yw markit
[11:57] <markit> (next option would have been reinstlal from scratch...)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> markit, do you have separate / and /home partitions?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> you may want to consider such a setup for convenience sake
[12:00] <BluesKaj> but it would mean doing clean install if you decide to do so
[12:07] <markit> BluesKaj: never understood that kind of setup, when I tried to use multiple separate partitions I ended up often to be short of space in some of them, and have plenty of unused in others
[12:07] <markit> i.e. I remember a separate /tmp of 2 GB, that seems even too much, but was not enough when I cloned a dvd and the program used /tmp to save temporary image!
[12:08] <markit> I've to leave this computer, have a good day and thanks again
[12:08] <BluesKaj> markit, for / (root), 12-15G is plenty . the rest for /home is large as you need, even the rest of the drive
[12:09] <BluesKaj> markit, take care
[15:15] <jason_> alguem ai
[15:16] <genii> !br
[15:22]  * clivejo bit the bullet and upgraded the entire system to yakkety
[15:23] <clivejo> grrr, wrong room
[15:29] <MoPac> I've noticed an odd piece of behavior with touchscreen tapping, and I'm not sure if it's by design. Generally, when a window (or panel, etc) does not have focus, the first touchscreen action I do in it only moves the cursor there (and may raise the window or give focus). This is different than the touchpad behavior.
[15:30] <MoPac> E.g., if I'm typing here in kvirc and I tap the calculator app launcher in the task manager with the touchscreen, the cursor moves over to the panel, but the launcher doesn't activate until I tap it again. Whereas if I tap the launcher using the touchpad in the same situation, it opens immediately
[15:32] <MoPac> Same thing with moving a scrollbar in a non-focused window -- with mouse/touchpad, I can grab any non-focused window's scrollbar and immediately start using it, but with the touchscreen I have to tap, release, and then tap-hold-drag
[15:36] <Pici> whisker/25
[17:18] <user|26329> mi escritorio parpadea y deja rastros al minimizar, alguna solucion?
[17:25] <soee_> !es user|26329
[17:25] <soee_> !es | user|26329
[17:26] <MoPac> I've noticed an odd piece of behavior with touchscreen tapping, and I'm not sure if it's by design. Generally, when a window (or panel, etc) does not have focus, the first touchscreen action I do in it only moves the cursor there (and may raise the window or give focus). This is different than the touchpad behavior.
[17:26] <MoPac> E.g., if I'm typing here in kvirc and I tap the calculator app launcher in the task manager with the touchscreen, the cursor moves over to the panel, but the launcher doesn't activate until I tap it again. Whereas if I tap the launcher using the touchpad in the same situation, it opens immediately
[17:27] <viewer|34469> hi
[17:27] <MoPac> Same thing with moving a scrollbar in a non-focused window -- with mouse/touchpad, I can grab any non-focused window's scrollbar and immediately start using it, but with the touchscreen I have to tap, release, and then tap-hold-drag. In fact, with scrollbars, I can even have the application focused -- be poking around in a Firefox window. But I still have to tap the scrollbar before I can use it.
[17:29] <viewer|34469> can anyone tell me a keylogger kubuntu
[17:29] <viewer|34469> for kubuntu
[17:31] <soee_> not sure
[17:31] <soee_> !keylogger
[17:31] <soee_> viewer|34469: better ask on #kde
[17:31] <viewer|34469> someone with practical skills
[17:40] <viewer|34469> ok
[18:05] <ventoso> qualcuno mi può dare una mano su lsb-core?
[18:05] <ventoso> devo installare google-earth
[20:28] <valorie> !es
[20:28] <valorie> !pt
[20:28] <valorie> unsure which, sorry
[20:55] <DevNope> Hi
[20:59] <soee_> hiho
[20:59] <DevNope> Wenn ich Kate öffne erscheint folgendes Fenster: http://up.picr.de/25448305sv.jpg
[21:01] <DevNope> Was kann ich tun, dass es nicht mehr erscheint?
[21:03] <DevNope> Ziemlich lame hier: War ein Rechte-Problem: sudo chown -R devnope:devnope /home/devnope
[21:15] <irctc437> In Windows 8 muss man rechts in die Taskleiste klicken und alle Fenster werden minimiert. Wie installiere ich mir einen solchen Button in die Taskleidte von KDE?
[21:16] <irctc437> ?
[21:20] <irctc437> Warum antwortet keiner?
[21:21] <krytarik> !de | irctc437
[21:22] <irctc437> Oh Sorry I have found the false channell!
[21:24] <irctc437> How can I add a button in my task bar to minimize all Windows?
[23:05] <mparillo> Unlock widgets (if necessary) Right click > Panel Options > Add Widgets > Show desktop
[23:09] <JeZxLee> having major issues with 16.04 and Intel "Bay Trail" GPU - any ideas when the Linux Kernel will support this?