[09:25] <ActionParsnip> alex____: and so on
[09:25] <alex____> =)
[09:25] <dustofdust> i have a problem with 8.10rc, i have a msi kt3 with geforce2mx and a crt monitor which can do 1280*1024 @100hz. at install i get 1920 or so, i dont get an option with 1280*1024@100hz
[09:25] <nickbooker> I understand acpi-support is now deprecated.  I've got a laptop here whose wireless doesn't come back after resume so where should I put the runes to re-enable it?
[09:25] <nickbooker> (intrepid)
[09:25] <click170> damaltor: Run amarok on the server and forward the x window to your local machine?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | dustofdust
[09:26] <alex____> oh i thought aptitude had the cow ?
[09:26] <damaltor> click170: no x on the server
[09:26] <puff> I'm updating an old system for the openssl issues.  Besides installing the new openssl and libssl packages, what do I need to do to make sure the ssh server has new keys?
[09:26] <alex____> err the snake eating the thing ?
[09:26] <click170> damaltor: gigabit?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> alex____: yeah
[09:26] <alex____> apt-get moo
[09:26] <alex____> aptitude -v moo
[09:26] <damaltor> click170: nice idea =) but hard to put on a notebook
[09:27] <damaltor> click170: do you know wich db system is the fastest/easiest? (sqlite or mysql)
[09:27] <click170> damaltor: I'm no expert there
[09:27] <JonRob> hi, has anyone else here encountered totem crashing when going to full screen on 8.10?
[09:27] <damaltor> click170: ah ok
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> click170: just use xul remote
[09:27] <JonRob> i suspect compiz, but i'm new to ubuntu and don't know where to switch it off
[09:27] <alex____> i reckkon mysql, but I'm no expert either
[09:27] <zeno_> flash sound isnt working
[09:28] <zeno_> firefox, flash 10
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> click170: you can use xul to control the system remotely via firefox
[09:28] <puff> JonRob: System/Preferences/Appearance
[09:28] <JonRob> puff - awesome, thanks
[09:28] <zeno_> it worked before now, and sound is ok in other apps
[09:28] <click170> damaltor: there you go - ActionParsnip
[09:28] <JackWinter_> oops a game changed resolution, what are the hotkeys to change res ?
[09:28] <alex____> jonrow. try avg for video playing. to switch off compiz use "metacity --replace" and to turn it back on "compiz --replace"
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: websearch for amarok xul remote
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: you can then control it with a firefox plugin
[09:29] <puff> damaltor:  For what purpose?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: its the only reason i sue firefox
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> *use
[09:29] <puff> damaltor: Generally I'd suggest mysql is probably more bang for your buck.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> zeno_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[09:30] <damaltor> ActionParsnip, puff, click170: i have no x on the server, so i dont have any amarok to remote-control. i have amarok running locally, and the music on my local server. but it is to slow, updating the db takes 30 mins and more
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> puff: both are free ;)
[09:30] <alex____> i reckon use a gui to manipulate mysql too, command line is too much for me! mysql seems really complex
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: you could run mpd on the remote system and control via web interface
[09:30] <damaltor> alex____: mysql is the worst interface ever. but with a nce qui its no problem
[09:30] <puff> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but his time isn't :-).
[09:30] <dannybuntu> i was just wondering why video playback on ubuntu is so slow  specially if I am running multiple programs.  I don't want to mention it, but  in XP Media Player, video plays just fine even while I am running more than  5  applications at the same time. I have installed libdvdcss2 w32codecs too.  :)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> puff: hence the ;)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !mpd | damaltor
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !info mpd
[09:31] <litb> hi all
[09:31] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: so there is no real possibility to use my beloved amarok, no?
[09:31] <alex____> i love mpd
[09:31] <alex____> and sonata
[09:31] <alex____> they together are great!
[09:31] <click170> damaltor: does it run from command line, as in without the X frontend?
[09:31] <erki> dannybuntu: What software are you using to play the videos?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: you could have your library use the files on a remotely mounted system
[09:31] <_coredump_> moinsen
[09:31] <dannybuntu> erki: both vlc and totem have problems
[09:31] <alex____> *althogh banshee does random for whole library better
[09:32] <erki> dannybuntu: Have you installed proper video card drivers?
[09:32] <klikxx> hio who can helps me?
[09:32] <click170> dannybuntu: whats your proposed problem with vlc?
[09:32] <alex____> me!
[09:32] <aepurniet> hey everybody just wanted to tell you all that i solved my problem.  the installer stalled saying a /dev/blahblah device had an invalid logical cluster size.  solution: unplug your ipod before installing
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> !ask | klikxx
[09:32] <dannybuntu> erki: yes through System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[09:32] <litb> those mates in here say that ubuntu has a bug that can make the harddisk fail
[09:33] <litb> is that true?
[09:33] <erki> aepurniet: Check :)
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: nice one. shouldve had it out anyhoo, who knows what couldve happened to it
[09:33] <puff> damaltor: Actually, I misunderstood the context of your mysql/sqllite question, so nevermind my answer.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: use the KISS method
[09:33] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: this is what i have at the moment. the 100 gb music is mounted via NFS to my machine, and amarok uses the files as if they were on this machine. but it takes way to long to update db and such, and this is what amarok does every few minutes
[09:33] <damaltor> puff: np =)
[09:33] <dannybuntu> click170: video playback is slow on both vlc and totem
[09:33]  * puff gets back to updating ssh keys.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: make it refresh less
[09:33] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: how?
[09:34] <aepurniet> i shouldve unplugged my gamecontroller too, maybe linux would have tried to install itself on that
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: id gues its part of the library options
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: that too, less stuff the better
[09:34] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: a parial update wopuld be great, but it seems to re-write the db every time and re-reads whole musik each time
[09:34] <aepurniet> its not like actively plugged in the ipod before installing, it was just plugged in (tri boot environment now!)
[09:34] <aepurniet> woot
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: flick round the options
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: whatever floats your boat
[09:35] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: cant find such an option. do you think using mysql instead of sqlite qill speed it up a bit?
[09:35] <JackWinter_> please i can't google with this resolution :)  what is the X hotkey for switching resolution ?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: ive never played with it that far. give it a go, see what you get
[09:36] <alex____> there is none jack
[09:36] <alex____> close all apps and tru 'ctrl alt backspace' this will restart X
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> JackWinter_: you need to install video drivers and configure them
[09:36] <aepurniet> aight, i have a new problem now, my second monitor is blank, and im using the proprietery nvidia drivers, any place i should look besides the screen res panel (only one monitor listed there)
[09:36] <alex____> if you are lucky, try xrandr
[09:36] <JackWinter_> hmm, i seem to remember some ctrl-alt-+ or something like that...
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | aepurniet
[09:37] <alex____> aepurniet: you can set nvidia up using nvidia-settings
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama | aepurniet
[09:37] <alex____> try 'gksu nvidia-settings-manager' or something like that (use nvidia-<tab>)
[09:37] <JackWinter_> so, i have to log out/in to get my desktop going again ?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> JackWinter_: cant hurt to try
[09:39] <alex____> Jackwinter: its easy just press crtl alt backspace
[09:39] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: will try. thanks so far.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> alex____: more graceful to log off and on
[09:40] <aepurniet> ubottu: xinerama looks pretty good, im gonna give that a try now
[09:40] <alex____> grace shmace!
[09:40] <aepurniet> damn these bots are smart
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> alex____: its all about grace, or you'd have a system held together with spit and string
[09:40] <ha6i> alex____: i somehow managed to solve by using hd0,0 for windows and hd0,1 for linux. anyway thanx...
[09:40] <alex____> Ubottu: are you smart?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !anything
[09:40] <JackWinter> oh well, worked to relogin.  strange i'm pretty sure there are hotkeys to cycle through x resolutions...?
[09:40] <alex____> heh!
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> alex____: theres loads
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> i love you ubottu
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> watch this
[09:41] <alex____> you can set them yourself if it doesnt know already tho right?
[09:42] <shingo> hello
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> yeah alex____
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> hi shingo
[09:42] <alex____> !moo
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[09:42] <ay^> !cocaine
[09:43] <shingo> i'm on a livecd of ubuntu and i'm trying to do su
[09:43] <alex____> !e
[09:43] <shingo> i don't know the password
[09:43] <ushills> does anyone use jungledisk
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> shingo: no need, just sudo everything
[09:43] <shingo> easy enough
[09:43] <shingo> thanks :)
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !root | shingo
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> bit o matrix for the lads
[09:44] <vallhalla81> hi just a qyuick question i wish to add a new sound card to my system will i need to re install ubuntu or add a program or should it auto detect? (it is a suported card)
[09:44] <ay^> vallhalla81: it should autodetect
[09:45] <vallhalla81> ay^: excelent thank you
[09:45] <ay^> np :D
[09:45] <vallhalla81> back soon wish me luck gl every1
[09:45] <ay^> glhfdd!
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> vallhalla81: install it pysically as normal. id suggest disabling onboard if you have it. if its fully supported it will work, otherwise you'll have to configure it. no need for clean install
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[09:46] <ay^> hehe
[09:46] <shingo> is there a way to try mplayer while on the live cd?
[09:46] <ushills> I need to get jungledisk to run at login, however, it needs to run as root - I have tried modifying permissions but never works
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> clean install for a soundcard would be laughable
[09:46] <rski> shingo: apt-get install it if you got enough RAM
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ushills: try adding it to rc
[09:46] <shingo> well 1gb
[09:46] <shingo> i'll try that now
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> shingo: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:46] <ay^> oh hell, I have to go to an exam now
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> shingo: you coulld always uninstall other apps to make room
[09:47] <shingo> and how can i check how much is used?
[09:48] <Chousuke> top tells you
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> df -h
[09:48] <ushills> Actionparsnip how do i do that the command i need to run is junglediskmonitor
[09:48] <Chousuke> well, that too :p
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> !startup | ushills
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> !boot | ushills
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ushills: you want the second lot
[09:49] <shingo> 491m available, should be enough :p
[09:49] <shingo> thanks
[09:51] <acidsworld> ok anyone know a program with apache allready in it
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: or you can just install apach from repos
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: apache is aprogram itself
[09:53] <shingo> couldn't find package mplayer, is it under a different name?
[09:53] <cloud-ieee> Can anyone help me with a Ubuntu network install?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> shingo: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:53] <acidsworld> i know apache is a program itself
[09:53] <shingo> ah i see thank you
[09:53] <acidsworld> i ant running ubuntu server
[09:54] <acidsworld> reg ubuntu
[09:54] <acidsworld> and wanna host my personal site with it
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: you dont need the server to run apache, you can run apacha on ANY of the buntu range
[09:54] <shingo> hmm
[09:54] <acidsworld> ok
[09:54] <acidsworld> i dont know where to look in add remove programs for it
[09:54] <shingo> even after the update i get E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: use terminal
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> shingo: can you ping websites?
[09:55] <acidsworld> what is link to use in termonal
[09:55] <acidsworld> u know by chance
[09:55] <acidsworld> chance
[09:55] <shingo> yes I can
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | acidsworld
[09:55] <puff> Anybody really familiar with generating SSL certs and keys?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: sudo apt-get install apache<press tab>
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> shingo: hmm strange, maybe you need some new repos
[09:56] <puff> I'm triyng to a) regenerate my SSL keys and b) in the process add several domains as aliases.
[09:56] <shingo> repos?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | shingo
[09:56] <alex____> acidworld and then get your router to forward port 80 (?) to your machines ip
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> shingo: when you use apt-get or synaptic you download fromservers called repositories
[09:57] <alex____> puff: go to #debian , pretend you run debian and ask them. They know
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> alex____: just getting the hhtpd installed and configured is his main worry ;)
[09:57] <alex____> oh! thats easy!
[09:57] <puff> Heh.
[09:57] <dannybuntu> lol @ alex
[09:57] <puff> alex____: Actually, I do run both debian and ubuntu.
[09:57] <acidsworld> Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:57] <acidsworld> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:57] <acidsworld> is only available from another source
[09:57] <acidsworld> E: Package apache has no installation candidate
[09:57] <FloodBot1> acidsworld: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <acidsworld> i get an error
[09:57] <acidsworld> that dont work
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: dont flood
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: did you press tab after typing apache?
[09:58] <acidsworld> yes
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: youo can tab complete packages
[09:58] <alex____> #debian is full of real hackers. ubuntu is full of new folks, running desktop linux. debian runs servers and know what ssl is.
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> try apa then press tab
[09:58] <alex____> sudo apt-get install apache2 whould be fine
[09:59] <shingo> well I know the install worked.. Fetched 2B in 0s.. Reading package lists.... Done
[09:59] <acidsworld> i posted the error i get
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> shingo: hmm, try sudo apt-get install mplay<press tab>
[10:00] <shingo> no good
[10:00] <shingo> doesn't complete
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:00] <alex____> press tab a few times
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> shingo: press it a few times
[10:00] <acidsworld> apache2 works
[10:00] <shingo> did, nothing
[10:00] <shingo> apache works though :p
[10:00] <alex____> how do you get a domain name to point to your ip address?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> nice bit of gratitude there eh
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> "thanks alex____ and ActionParsnip, you guys really helped me"
[10:01] <alex____> how? =)
[10:02] <alex____> oh right! yeah! what about a bit of pleasantries!
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> alex____: get an account with no-ip or dydns
[10:02] <shingo> damn it, bad time for my windows drive to have died... i just want to watch a video
[10:02] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, deluge lets you add multiple trackers to a torrent, but it looks like it only uses one at a time. doesnt utorrent use all the trackers in a torrent at once, gathering peers from all of them?
[10:02] <alex____> use vlc
[10:02] <BezNalogov> Hi people. I have just installed ubuntu 8.04 on a machine, but the default resolution is wrong. After I logged in I changed the resolution via system->preferences->screen resolution. Now it works fine, but only for the current user. How can I make that gdm and other (new made) users use this resolution by default too?
[10:02] <alex____> it will work, i guarantee it~!
[10:02] <shingo> is vlc preinstalled?
[10:02] <rski> no
[10:03]  * dannybuntu will be right back... :)
[10:03] <shingo> apt get vlc doesn't work either :\
[10:03] <alex____> BezNalogov: prolly need to edit xorg.conf a little bit, its complicated.
[10:03] <alex____> shingo: sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:03] <lamego> shingo, you need to have the universe repository enabled
[10:03] <rski> Reading state information... Done
[10:03] <rski> vlc is already the newest version.
[10:03] <rski> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:03] <alex____> vlc is the best thing since sliced bread! I should donate money to them actually...
[10:04] <rski> your sources is broken shingo
[10:04] <rski> fix them and then install it
[10:04] <BezNalogov> ok, is there a guide about changing xorg.conf somewhere?
[10:04] <aepurniet> can i quit x, and go to the command line ?
[10:04] <rski> no other way around it
[10:04] <shingo> lamego: and I do that how?
[10:04] <shingo> i see
[10:04] <BezNalogov> The resolution thqt I want as default is 1280x960
[10:04] <lamego> !universe | shingo
[10:04] <erki> aepurniet: No need to quit X, just press ctrl+alt+f1
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> alex____: i find it bloated, mplayer is much cleaner imho
[10:05] <aepurniet> will that work for installing drivers? well i'll give that a try
[10:05] <erki> Or SMPlayer, which is mplayer+bloat, which I love :)
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: dependson the device
[10:05] <alex____> hmm... vlc bloated... at least it plays _everything_ ! do you know if vlc accepts donations?
[10:06] <aepurniet> nope wont work, need to go to tty1, and kill x
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> alex____: any player can play anything if you have the codecs
[10:06] <aepurniet> is there a gui quit button some where here?
[10:06] <alex____> I don't think it is bloated. it is a 10 - 30 mb download, runs a portable app in windows.
[10:06] <alex____> codecs suck. how do you know what codecs are good? on windows codecs are a recipe for diaster
[10:06] <newbe1> got a program that want me to run the uninstall as  root   what is    root
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> alex____: you research
[10:07] <shingo> Where can I see which version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[10:07] <alex____> newbel: sudo == run as root
[10:07] <proteusguy> How can I tell exactly what version of ubuntu I'm running? I've got a 64bit AMD cpu but not sure if I'm running 32 or 64bit Ubuntu.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: put sudo at the start if the uninstall is going to run n console, or gksudo if its graphical
[10:07] <alex____> look up linux documentation. root is superuser, admin. root is boss
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: lsb_release -a
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: you downloaded it, surely you know what architecture your linux is
[10:08] <newbe1> alex>  type    sudo==run as root       just like that
[10:08] <shingo> I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 codename gutsy
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: also uname -a will tell you (i686 = 32bit, X86_64 == 64bit)
[10:08] <newbe1> alex  space between ==
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: whatever command you need root power, type sudo at the start of it
[10:08] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip - Doesn't say if I'm 32 or 64 bit. I didn't install it which is why I'm trying to find out.
[10:09] <newbe1> alex   ok     i will try that
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: can you paste the output of uname -a here, i'll tell you
[10:09] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, uname -a says Linux vai 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:43:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux. Does the i686 mean my CPU or the build's bitwidth?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: 32bit
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: i686
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: if its a desktop pc then 32bit is fine
[10:10] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, thanx. that explains why it's only seeing 3GB out of my 6GB RAM.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> oh, then you NEED 64bit linux
[10:10] <shingo> Alright guys, I'm going to bed. Thanks for the help :)
[10:10] <proteusguy> yep
[10:11] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, can I upgrade to 64 bit without rebuilding the whole machine?
[10:11] <alex____> proteusguy: you can install  the server kernel, it will recognise your ram
[10:11] <alex____> easy
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: you need a whole new setup
[10:12] <proteusguy> alex____, do tell. :) how do I do that/
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: as your apps will be 64bit too
[10:12] <proteusguy> ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: for stability id hit a 64bit OS as much as you can
[10:12] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, I don't really need 64bit apps, just the kernel to get my RAM right?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit kernel
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: right
[10:13] <alex____> 'sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-headers-server' from here: http://samiux.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/how-to-use-4-gb-ram-on-a-32-bit-ubuntu/
[10:13] <alex____> as i understand it ... you are right.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> alex____: hmm, might have to hit that, 64bit kernel + 32bit browser ;)
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> alex____: cheeky
[10:13] <alex____> i have 4 gig ram, but onlly use normal kernel, 32 bit OS, I don;t miss that .4 gig
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> i have 1b, suits me fine
[10:14] <alex____> nono. its not 64 bit kernel
[10:14] <alex____> jsut compiled for more ram
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> oic
[10:14] <alex____> 1b?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> 1Gb
[10:14] <alex____> ah.
[10:15] <alex____> this mac has 512 mb, thats all you need, unless you get multitasking, with windows virtual machine etc...
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> runs unreal tournament and uran terror fine with onboard nvidia gfx
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> *urban
[10:15] <newbe1> alex>   thanks for the info
[10:15] <kylekruchok> Hey-lo!
[10:15] <proteusguy> ok going the server kernel upgrade and will see how that works. thanx.
[10:15] <newbe1> alex>  it work great
[10:15] <kylekruchok> I have a bit of an issue, if anyone's willin' to help.
[10:15] <mysterycool> Hey
[10:16] <alex____> newbel, what works great?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: if you dont like it you can always change
[10:16] <alex____> !ask | knlekruchok
[10:16] <mysterycool> S.O.S help! My resolution went mad and the only option is 800 x 600! How can I fix it?
[10:16] <kylekruchok> Haha, ok. :)
[10:16] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, yeah that's what i figure. the install isn't removing any packages so I presume this will all be selectable via grub.
[10:17] <zackeroo> I am thinking of compiling SSE into my Ubuntu kernel ... any thoughts on this?
[10:17] <kylekruchok> When I click on the Firefox icon, either from the applications menu, or from the shortcut I created, it doesn't completely start the program. It shows up as a process, but disappears from my tray. It stays in the running processes though... Any ideas?
[10:17] <zackeroo> anyone ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: just follow the guide. ive never done it myself
[10:17] <zackeroo> Flannel: you around?
[10:18] <msandbu> Hi all! anyone know of a MSN terminal client ?
[10:18] <CosmicB> zackeroo: doesn't the stock ubuntu kernel stupport sse ?
[10:18] <mysterycool> S.O.S help! My resolution went mad and the only option is 800 x 600! How can I fix it?
[10:18] <kylekruchok> msandbu: If you find one, lemme know. :)
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: run it from terminal after killing all firefoxes, you will get intelligent outputs
[10:18] <msandbu> kylekruchok: will do :)
[10:18] <zackeroo> CosmicB: dunno ... do you?
[10:18] <kylekruchok> Thanks.
[10:18] <CosmicB> msandbu: pidgin (gnome), kopete (kde) f.example
[10:18] <CosmicB> zackeroo: I'm pretty sure the stock kernel supports sse
[10:18] <msandbu> that can be run in CL ?
[10:18] <msandbu> CLI*
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: if all else fails, rename ~/.mozilla to something else and rerun to get stock profile, you will then have to readd favourites etc
[10:19] <zackeroo> CosmicB: ok .. but is it active ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> msandbu: you can run any app from terminal
[10:19] <mysterycool> How can I change my screen resolution?
[10:20] <CosmicB> zackeroo: try "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:20] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: Nope. It asks me if I want to restore, or start fresh. Both terminate the program on the desktop, and tray, but leave it running in System Monitor.
[10:20] <msandbu> ActionParsnip: that I know, but I want to keep running in the CLI, dont want any GUI, just cli :)
[10:20] <zackeroo> CosmicB: what am I looking for?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> msandbu: you can webbrose without an xserver, you just cant have flash embedded
[10:21] <mysterycool> How can I change my screen resolution?
[10:21] <alex____> you can run it in another tty: ctrl alt F1...6 and get back with ctrl alt F7 (usually)
[10:21] <CosmicB> zackeroo: look at the "flags" line, it shows what instructions your cpu supports
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: killall firefox
[10:21] <CosmicB> zackaroo: I'm 99,9% sure that implies your kernel supports it
[10:21] <alex____> mysterycool: no easy way. try nvidia-settings or xrandr or xorg.conf
[10:21] <kylekruchok> No processes killed.
[10:22] <mysterycool> alex____: I am not using nvidia.
[10:22] <zackeroo> CosmicB: well I know it supports SSE ... but does that mean Ubuntu is able to utilize that?
[10:22] <alex____> ati?
[10:22] <mysterycool> Yes
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: ps -ef | grep fire
[10:22] <alex____> xrandr works
[10:22] <alex____> its a CLI app though
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: is it still there
[10:22] <mysterycool> alex____: What should I do?
[10:22] <kylekruchok> Yes.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: then kill its PID
[10:22] <kylekruchok> But a zero counter on the clock...
[10:22] <kylekruchok> kyle      6637  6502  0 03:22 pts/1    00:00:00 grep fire
[10:23] <alex____> read the manual! 'man srandr' after you install 'sudo apt-get install xrandr'
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: thats the command we just ran
[10:23] <CosmicB> zackeroo: I'm also 99,9999% sure the ubuntu stock kernel utilize that, I mean, sse is like 10 years old or something (?)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: try: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: then run firefox
[10:23] <alex____> * actually xrandr
[10:24] <kylekruchok> So, all that did was move my settings folder, and FireFox had to create a new one?
[10:24] <Harts> !fr| Harts
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: bingo
[10:24] <dan> hello
[10:25] <CosmicB> zackeroo: to be 100% sure, download kernel sources, and from source dir. issue "$cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config", then when you do a make menuconfig you're loading your current config, then you can easily check what 's supported and whats not
[10:25] <dan> i am using qvwm and it looks like windows 95 lol
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: if the setttings get malformed, programs go wonky
[10:25] <CosmicB> zackaroo: there might be an easier way to do this, but I can come up with one right now
[10:25] <cloud-ieee> YES!
[10:25] <cloud-ieee> Got the network install to work! :D
[10:25] <mysterycool> !xrandr
[10:25] <zackeroo> CosmicB ... thanks
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee: wt!
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> *wtg
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> In case anyone is interested. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> Great guide! :p
[10:26] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: It still won't load FireFox. I've uninstalled, and reinstalled it twice now. Something tells me it's not just Firefox that is causing the problem. This has happened a couple times before, and naturally fixed itself... not sure why it's not just fixing itself now.
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> Action, thx bro.
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> :)
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee: the wonders of websearches eh
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> lol no doubt man...
[10:26] <CosmicB> zackaroo: come to think of it, just open up /boot/config-$(uname -r) and search for SSE, should be easier, :)
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> I got tired of asking for help :p
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: ok run firefox from terminal and wait for it to crap out, then can you pastebin the outputs you get (if any) and give us the link
[10:27] <kylekruchok> Sure.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee: you should do it the other way, try websearches, THEN ask
[10:28] <milligan_> I want to install freeeradius .. how can I check what version of it is in the ubuntu repos?
[10:28] <cloud-ieee> Action, believe it or not I did. No one was replying to me so I just kept researching :p
[10:28] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: Pastebin = ? Just put screenshots online?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !freeradius
[10:28] <backenfutter> milligan_, apt-cache search freeradius
[10:28] <cloud-ieee> Action, you're right though.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !info freeradius
[10:29] <milligan_> dang, that's old.
[10:29] <mrichman_> I've added a 2nd network adapter...how do I get it to show up as eth1 ?
[10:29] <milligan_> ActionParsnip, any way of checking what version they are shipping in interpid ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: there maybe another repo out there with a newer version
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: you can search the repos on the ubuntu website
[10:29] <david> hello, i need help with vwserver
[10:30] <backenfutter> mrichman_, it should show up as unconfigured eth1 in ifconfig, doesn't it?
[10:30] <Guest17586> i set up a virtual windows xp, and i powered it on. now how do i see it?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: you can view it in the vmware console
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: type vmware & in terminal
[10:30] <mrichman_> backenfutter: not sure how to tell
[10:31] <backenfutter> mrichman_, type 'ifconfig'
[10:31] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: There is nothing to paste...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: gah, ok then check system logs
[10:31] <alex____> virtualbox is better!
[10:31] <mrichman> backenfutter: i see eth0, eth1, and lo
[10:31] <alex____> (actually i haven't tried vmware)
[10:31] <backenfutter> mrichman, ok, the adapter was found, now configure it with ifup - use 'man ifup'
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> alex____: on dual core systems, vmware is way more efficient that vmware
[10:32] <Fauskin> hi! im totally new to ubuntu.. can anyone tell me how i can create a .conf file? When i try in the text editor, i get the answer that i dont have the rights to save to etc.. Would appreciate all help! :)
[10:32] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: orly?
[10:32] <[Si|0]> arghhh
[10:32] <moDumass> hey all, i have somehow lost access to my smb nas
[10:32] <moDumass> just moved machines, nothing else
[10:32] <alex____> mrichman: nah edit /etc/network/interfaces ... much better!
[10:32] <backenfutter> ActionParsnip, ;-) d'oh
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> alex____: plus i found setting up the rdp easer as it has a bridged LAN I can see on my routers dhcp list
[10:32] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, so it is browser based?
[10:33] <[Si|0]> i randomly did an update and i think my distro has chanbged, and now compiz and emerald wont work....Anyone know how i can fix it?
[10:33] <cloud-ieee> Action, I have a quick question for you. A few days ago I installed Ubuntu on a HD that has an NTFS partion. I was able to access it and named it /media/disk-1. I installed VirtualBox and was running Windows inside of it. I ended up having to reboot Ubuntu and came back to that partition going from /media/disk-1 to /media/disk. I was unable to access my Windows hypervisor, but more importantly what would cause Ubuntu to r
[10:33] <alex____> actionparsnip: so the virtual OS can use multiple cores?
[10:33] <benoitc> hi all
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: no, the vmware & will allow you to conect to the local host to view running vms
[10:33] <Gnea> [Si|0]: try making a new account and logging in with it and see if compiz is broken with it or not
[10:33] <[Si|0]> ok thx
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> alex____: yes as well as the system as far as ive seen runs much smoother
[10:33] <benoitc> is there any possibility to reinsyall all base system on ubuntu 8.0.4 ? I tried tasksel but it segfault :/
[10:33] <alex____> I'm not changing, I have had a virtualbox disk image for years now, since I used debian etch in testing. It is still going and runs my windows onlyl apps for Uni.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> alex____: its a case of !worksforme
[10:34] <mrichman> backenfutter: i have /etc/network/interfaces set up, but when i do networking restart, I get SIOCADDRT: No such process\nFailed to bring up eth1
[10:34] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, so everytime i want to start windows i have to login the browser?
[10:34] <backenfutter> [Si|0], using intrepid or hardy?
[10:34] <alex____> oh and seamless mode is cool toO!
[10:34] <[Si|0]> intrepid now it seems :>
[10:34] <[Si|0]> was hardy before tho im sure
[10:34] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: is vbox more efficient than vbox?
[10:34] <bendis_vis> hi all
[10:34] <litb> alex____: yay seemless mode rocks hard!
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: if the system is started i dont believe so, what i do is use alltray and dock it to the system tray
[10:34] <alex____> lol
[10:34] <backenfutter> [Si|0], my compiz.real crashes every once in a while on ibex as well... hope they get it fixed before release
[10:34] <newbe1> need to completely uninstall the  Wine app  got part ie6 in there and it won't reinstall
[10:34] <litb> kwin rocks them all anyway
[10:34] <alex____> seamless chrome in linux is a cool way to show off =P
[10:34] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, can you explain that a little better?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: ive not looked at efficiecy, i just liked how it got setup etc. i find it smoother, maybe its more efficient, maybe its slicker
[10:35] <[Si|0]> backenfutter: I didn't even mean to update to that distro, i just did the updates as usual and bam :|
[10:35] <alex____> copy and pase would be good, and drag and drop
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> alex____: seamless chrome?
[10:35] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: so it's more efficient than itself?
[10:35] <backenfutter> [Si|0], ???
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: that doesnt make sense
[10:35] <Guest17586> AccessExcess, how do i know if it is started on startup? does it mean that every time i start ubuntu it automatically starts windows?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: x > x ?
[10:35] <puff> so, I followed this tutorial to originally set up this server: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[10:36] <alex____> running google chrome in seamless mode in a virtual machine, looks native in linux, runs real fast etc...
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], complete version update should take around an hour or more
[10:36] <[Si|0]> yeh it did
[10:36] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: neither does this: 05:32 < ActionParsnip> alex____: on dual core systems, vmware is way more efficient that vmware
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: add it to your startup guff
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], did it take that long?
[10:36] <backenfutter> kk
[10:36] <tekstacy> Can someone tell me a program in the repos for beginner-level web page design?
[10:36] <[Si|0]> but i didn't realise what it was doing lol
[10:36] <[Si|0]> i just thought it was a run-of-the-mil;l update
[10:36] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, add what, firefox to open localhost:88...?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: gah, i meant vmware more effiecient than vbox
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], that's funny... thought you'd explicitly have to tell it to update to new verion...
[10:36] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: figured i'd point that out before you got too far into the discussion :)
[10:36] <puff> However, I don't remember setting up SSL certs for apache, and there's nothing in the tutorial about that.  Are the self-signed certs set up automatically by the package install?
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], at least that's how it used to be
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: im unsure, i always have the gui app thing churning away in my systray
[10:37] <backenfutter> [Si|0], how did you update? what did you type?
[10:37] <moDumass> !nas
[10:37] <moDumass> !cifs
[10:37] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, whats the name of the gui app?
[10:37] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: This is what I get: Oct 28 03:31:28 Bessy anacron[7075]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2008-10-28
[10:37] <kylekruchok> Oct 28 03:31:28 Bessy anacron[7075]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
[10:37] <alex____> tekstasy: I recmmend htmldog (search google) and gedit
[10:37] <puff> tekstacy: I do it all by hand, but I'm a programmer, not a designer.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: long day and my operations and network guys arent picking up their phones
[10:37] <[Si|0]> didn't type anything, it just came up in the 'software updates available' thing
[10:37] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: I haven't tried vbox on multi-core systems yet, so now I'm interested in trying :)
[10:37] <[Si|0]> an extra 500mb of updates
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: vmware
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: install alltray
[10:37] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: eh, it happens, no worries
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: then have a startup item: alltray vmware &
[10:38] <tekstacy> puff, it's for my 12 year old niece, she would scream and run away from that.
[10:38] <alex____> what is the kde app for html editting? wysiwyg and all?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> alex____: kate
[10:38] <alex____> nope
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !info bluefish
[10:39] <litb> alex____: you want Quanta
[10:39] <litb> !quanta+
[10:39] <litb> !quanta
[10:39] <Gnea> !info quanta
[10:39] <litb> bad ubottu
[10:39]  * Gnea eyes litb suspiciously
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> !info quanta
[10:40] <alex____> i wasn't thinking of quanta either
[10:40] <newbe1> ! uninstall wine
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !info kdewebdev
[10:40] <nenad> hi people. may i ask a question about ubuntu :)
[10:40] <newbe1> need to completely uninstall the  Wine app  got part ie6 in there and it won't reinstall
[10:40] <SlimeyPete> alex____: komposer
[10:40] <litb> !ask
[10:40] <alex____> the little html editing I have done was using gedit anywho. I jsut wanted to recommend it to the poster above.
[10:40] <backenfutter> nenad, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:40] <alex____> KOMPOSER!
[10:40] <Gnea> !ask > nenad
[10:40] <litb> lol
[10:40] <missille> hi, new to ubuntu. Have a problem, I installed it on a usb 2.0 stick. But it only runs on usb 1 so its very slow
[10:40] <emma> is there something from the command line to make a cd eject?
[10:40] <litb> Gnea: ive already done !ask
[10:41] <emma> it's not ejecting for some reason.
[10:41] <Gnea> litb: you didn't direct.
[10:41] <newbe1> ! wine
[10:41] <puff> tekstacy: Idaknow, don't underestimate kids' power to learn.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> emma: sudo eject /dev/<cd name>
[10:41] <missille> does anybody know an command line or anything to fix the problem
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> emma: man eject
[10:41] <nenad> yeah sorry.. as soon i asked to ask I recalled that I read somewhere that I shouldn't do that
[10:41] <kylekruchok> missille: Which problem?
[10:41] <msandbu> !openssh
[10:41] <Gnea> missille: obtain a system with usb 2.0 ports
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> missille: you sure the PC you've plugged it into supports USB2?
[10:41] <alex____> tekstacy: try komposer, or perhaps quanta
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> missille: are you running intrepid?
[10:41] <missille> yeah i got usb 2 ports
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> missille: are you fully updated?
[10:42] <missille> intrepid... no idea
[10:42] <missille> cant fully update
[10:42] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: Dude, there's nothing regarding Firefox in the system log.
[10:42] <Gnea> missille: then it shouldn't be running at 1.1 speeds.
[10:42] <missille> takes like forever
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> missille: lsb_release -a | grep -i code
[10:42] <tekstacy> yeah, I was just looking at quanta, looks cool.
[10:42] <kylekruchok> The last update was like... 3 hours ago.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: there are loads of logs dude
[10:42] <nenad> whasince new ubuntu is about to be released, do you think it's better to install on a freshly formatted partition or to do dist-upgrade... and why..?
[10:42] <kylekruchok> I know. I looked at them.
[10:42] <alex____> I still think gedit and understanding html yourself is best!
[10:43] <emma> It won't eject
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> nenad: try an update, if its good use it, if not, install clean
[10:43]  * Gnea prefers vim over gedit, but yeah, knowing html > using a gui to get it done
[10:43] <missille> btw how can i check if my ubuntu only runs on usb 1 or if the problem is elsewhere
[10:43]  * ActionParsnip agress with alex____
[10:43] <alex____> nedad: intrepid is released on 30th, new install is best IMHO
[10:43] <kylekruchok> These logs, I checked.
[10:43] <kylekruchok> Oct 28 00:17:01 Bessy CRON[1589]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> alex____: may as well try an update first, it might work, if not, clean install
[10:44] <kylekruchok> Whoops. Wrong paste.
[10:44] <ziroday> emma: you can try find a process that is using the cd, that usually prevents it from ejecting
[10:44] <tekstacy> puff, yeah, she's pretty smart. She prefers ubuntu over vista
[10:44] <alex____> vim == lots of typing, modern folks use mice  ;)
[10:44] <[Si|0]> backenfutter: You think im better off reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:44] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: auth, daemon, debug, kern, messages, syslog, user, xorg.0
[10:44] <kylekruchok> Those logs.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> emma: try unmounting the cd, if it says its busy try: cd ~/; lsof | grep <mount point name here>
[10:44] <Gnea> typing code requires lots of typing, not mouse roving ;)
[10:44] <alex____> I like to have 2 OS partitins, one for new ubuntu, one for old!
[10:45] <alex____> install new ubuntu, if it works, I can slowly migrate things I forgot, if it don't I can go back... Oh and have a separate /home partition! very important
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> alex____: i have 1 for linux and one for /sswp; ~/ is mounted to my file server
[10:45] <Gnea> !info vim-gtk
[10:45] <nenad> yeah, i know that nothing beats fresh install, but seems like an awful lot of work downloading all the packages and configuring stuff like azureus, compiz fusion etc etc etc... if i keep my home folder, with all the hidden app folders with settings, will it do good?
[10:45] <alex____> server? surely that slows things down
[10:45] <backenfutter> [Si|0], na, intrepid will be just fine in a few days... not worth the effort
[10:45] <alex____> oh home
[10:46] <alex____> that is nice
[10:46] <[Si|0]> backenfutter: My compiz wont even start
[10:46] <alex____> does having ~ on a server slow things doen at all?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> yeah, saves messing with worrying about backups as they are all done on the server side
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> alex____: 100Mbps is fine for me
[10:46] <tekstacy> Also, is there something in the repos to help a kid learn beginning programming skills?
[10:47] <acidsworld> anyone know how to change apache default to where outside views can see here is what i get http://acidsworld.com go look for urself
[10:47] <backenfutter> [Si|0], just turn it off for a couple of days - I bet you itll be just fine - have you considered opening a bugreport?
[10:47] <OxDeadC0de> I downloaded kubuntu metapackages from the regular gnome, now when I start kde  - Guidance power manager and nm-applet keep starting, I can't figure out where to disable them in favor of the kde versions that are running too, any ideas?
[10:47] <missille> actionparsnip: i tried your command in terminal and it only said no lsb modules are available
[10:47] <Gnea> alex____: i like how a lot of the : commands are menuified - makes learning vim that much easier. so during those times that you get stuck in console and need an editor that can get the job done... ;)
[10:47] <alex____> yep. does the server run ubuntu? where is its home??   =)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> missille: lsb_release -a
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> alex____: its not logged in so no where
[10:47] <alex____> Gnea: i use nano when stuck without x ... I am relatively new to the linux thing though
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> alex____: it runs mandriva
[10:48] <alex____> oh
[10:48] <alex____> no apt-get ? how do you get by!
[10:48] <Gnea> alex____: ah, i used to use pico, went to joe and eventually to vi/vim. nano is just another name for pico :)
[10:48] <acidsworld> anyone good with apache that can help
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> alex____: urpmi
[10:48] <shingo> what are some good alternatives to kde and gnome?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> alex____: debian isnt the only system base
[10:49] <Gnea> acidsworld: not when you're not here
[10:49] <moDumass> sudo mount -1 gives : mount error 113 = No route to host
[10:49] <ikonia> shingo xfce/fluxbox/enlightment
[10:49] <rski> shingo: e17 xfce
[10:49] <OxDeadC0de> shingo: blackbox, fluxbox, xfce,
[10:49] <alex____> ok
[10:49] <moDumass> but i can see the host
[10:49] <Gnea> !lamp | acidsworld
[10:49] <ikonia> moDumass: what command are you using
[10:49] <moDumass> i can log into its admin page
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> shingo: you can use kde or gnome but use a slimmer windows manager on it, like fluxbox
[10:49] <moDumass> ikonia what do you mean?
[10:49] <Ohmu> guys, I had some disk partitioning util on System->Admin on my ubuntu BootCD.  But it's not there on the full install.  What's it called, so I can get it?
[10:49] <acidsworld> no i need to know how to change apache http config
[10:49] <alex____> e17 or xfce
[10:49] <tekstacy> shingo, I use xfce on an older system that sucks w/ kde
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> shingo: same apps, differnt frontend to you
[10:49] <ikonia> moDumass what command generates that error
[10:49] <acidsworld> but cant find httpconfig
[10:49] <acidsworld> installed apache2
[10:50] <acidsworld> and it is working
[10:50] <alex____> Ohmu: gparted
[10:50] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know how to disable nm-applet and guidance power manager when kde and gnome are installed together?
[10:50] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: its in /etc/apache - it's not called httpd.conf in ubuntu
[10:50] <moDumass> ikonia sudo mount -a
[10:50] <Gnea> !gparted | Ohmu
[10:50] <acidsworld> http://acidsworld.com
[10:50] <OxDeadC0de> in kde
[10:50] <ikonia> moDumass: in your fstab do you have any remove hosts
[10:50] <missille> ActionParsnip:No LSB modules are available.
[10:50] <missille> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[10:50] <missille> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:50] <missille> Release:	8.04
[10:50] <missille> Codename:	hardy
[10:50] <FloodBot1> missille: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: fire it at acidsworld
[10:50] <shingo> apt-get installed blackbox, now how do i switch from gnome to it?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> missille: dont flood please
[10:50] <Gnea> !pastebin | missille
[10:50] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry - did that go to you
[10:50] <alex____> gparted live cd is fantastic
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> missille: you are on hardy
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: indeed ;)
[10:50] <moDumass> ikonia nothing should have changed, i only moved my machine about 5 yards
[10:50] <moDumass> gime a sec
[10:50] <OxDeadC0de> shingo gdm should allow you to switch to it by clicking "sessions" before you log in
[10:50] <missille> check, no flooding
[10:51] <OxDeadC0de> blackbox is very lightweight, you'll need to edit all your menus by hand in ~/.blackbox/
[10:51] <ikonia> moDumass: check if you have remote hosts in your fstab
[10:51] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i've just installed mame through apt, where would mame.ini be?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> missille: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgarde; sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade'
[10:51] <CoRnJuLiOx> is there a default directory for .ini files?
[10:51] <acidsworld> ok i guess nobody can help me
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> missille: without the '
[10:51] <ikonia> CoRnJuLiOx: linux doesn't use ini
[10:51] <Gnea> OxDeadC0de: I prefer to edit my menus via gui in e17
[10:51] <tekstacy> ah, back to work. Thanks for the advice guys.
[10:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia, no, mame is asking me to check the rompath defined in the mame.ini file, where would that have been placed since i installed it through apt
[10:52] <tsrepadmin> How can i build drivers for the amd64 arch? I crash my system (libasound.so.2), when make install sound or graphics driver
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> CoRnJuLiOx: sudo find / -name mame.ini
[10:52] <ikonia> CoRnJuLiOx: look at your mame config
[10:52] <Gnea> tsrepadmin: what drivers?
[10:53] <missille> ap: thanks will try those ones out
[10:53] <newbe1> need to completely uninstall the  Wine app  got part ie6 in there and it won't reinstall
[10:53] <RanyAlbeg> i have a file called "jdk-6u10-linux-i586.bin" = java development kit , which i want to install. how do i do that?
[10:53] <ikonia> RanyAlbeg use the java instal out of the ubuntu repo
[10:53] <moDumass> ikonia //<IP_ADDRESS>/PUBLIC\040DISK\0401 /media/NAS200/200Gig cifs auto,iocharset=utf8,uid=evilsherpa,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0
[10:53] <shingo> so to start fluxbox i have to kill gnome?
[10:53] <ikonia> moDumass: thats the problem then
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> RanyAlbeg: chmod +x ./jdk-6u10-linux-i586.bin && ./jdk-6u10-linux-i586.bin
[10:54] <ikonia> moDumass: no route to host 192.x.x.x
[10:54] <moDumass> the ip of my nas is now <IP_ADDRESS> though
[10:54] <alex____> um... is it usual for gparted to take a long time to resize large (600 gig) partitions?
[10:54] <OxDeadC0de> Gnea: I prefer kde now that I have a computer fast enough, and it's polished
[10:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:54] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: you shouldn't, just: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[10:54] <moDumass> im guessing when i moved everything the nas was re addressed
[10:54] <acidsworld> anyone know how to change apache default to where outside views can see here is what i get http://acidsworld.com go look for urself
[10:55] <tsrepadmin> Gnea: for example the actual alsa driver
[10:55] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: Thanks , but for knowing to deal with a similar case in the future what am i supposed to do
[10:55] <Gnea> OxDeadC0de: e17 has become quite polished, and minimum requirements, these days, are as little as a 100mhz cpu and 64 megs of ram.
[10:55] <alex____> I asked gparted live cd to change some partitions, and it has taken a day so far, and is advising me it will take anothe 5o hours!!!!!!! can I cancel it?
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld that looks like file system permissions on your sites content
[10:55] <acidsworld> yeh
[10:55] <acidsworld> how do i change it
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld: I would not advise it
[10:55] <acidsworld> it is the apache
[10:55] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: apt-cache search <for what you want to search for>
[10:55] <backenfutter> acidsworld, chmod -R 755 /path/to/dir
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld: use the file manager to change the permissions or the chmod command
[10:55] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: or use the search function in synaptic
[10:55] <acidsworld> i want people to see it
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld: it could also be an apache "Directory" directive that needs setting depending on the location
[10:55] <acidsworld> it is apache
[10:55] <Oprtz> anybody know how to play streaming video in ubuntu ? i am facing problems, i just install mplayer plugin for  firefox, and it load the video but after that NO VIDEO ....
[10:55] <emilien> i know this is only partly ubuntu related but has anyone got any idea on making windows usb installer in ubuntu ?
[10:56] <ikonia> acidsworld: how do you know it's apache ?
[10:56] <Gnea> tsrepadmin: alsa drivers come with ubuntu, why would you need to compile it?
[10:56] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: Yea but if i have a bin file
[10:56] <ikonia> emilien: what ?
[10:56] <acidsworld> i installed it
[10:56] <backenfutter> acidsworld, take a look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default   -   that should give you a head start
[10:56] <ikonia> acidsworld: I've just explained the possible errors, you need to check them
[10:56] <tsrepadmin> I have a ASUS P5E-VM HDMI motherboard and try to use sound and graphics card with actual drivers. Graphics isn't working with two monitors, and I have no sound
[10:56] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: all i'm saying, is that in cases like the JDK, you don't need the bin file - you'll get less errors by installing the packages made for ubuntu
[10:57] <shingo> if i kill gnome is it going to kill all the apps i have running with it?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> tsrepadmin: lspci will tell you what hardware you have, you can websearch from there
[10:57] <shingo> like pidgin for example
[10:57] <ikonia> shingo yes
[10:57] <shingo> or is it like killing explorer?
[10:57] <shingo> damn
[10:57] <emilien> ikonia:  i have no cdRom and i need to install windows using a usb , all tools to do this are windows only
[10:57] <ikonia> emilien thats nothign to do with ubuntu, join ##windows
[10:57] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: :) I understand you , and i did what you said , but yet how do i install this bin file
[10:58] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: if in doubt, search the repository first. then search google for it (i usually throw the search word 'ubuntu' in there with it) to see if someone else has made a package for it or not. they may have a third-party repo setup.
[10:58] <alex____> anyone experienced gparted taking way too long?
[10:58] <OxDeadC0de> shingo: there used to be a "Desktop chooser" tool you could use to switch window managers on the fly without closing everything
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: and if no luck with google, hit up www.ask.com
[10:58] <ikonia> alex____ you've asked and you've been told
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: log out, change session type
[10:58] <OxDeadC0de> yea I know
[10:58] <emilien> ikonia: true , but there going to point me here because im using linux
[10:58] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: you could just chmod 700 file.bin and then ./file.bin, but it won't be my fault if your system gets screwed up as a result :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> alex____: change hard drive setings with hdparm before starting
[10:59] <shingo> too bad I don't have it :\
[10:59] <ikonia> emilien you need to do it on a windows host then - or use trial and error to get linux to make the usb the correct format,
[10:59] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone know how to disable nm-applet and guidance power manager in kde sessions?
[11:00] <emilien> ikonia:  had a feeling would be down to trial and error XD
[11:00] <shingo> SO CTRL ALT backspace will kill genome and goto console?
[11:00] <ikonia> shingo no it will restart X
[11:00] <backenfutter> shingo, will restart x-server
[11:00] <shingo> ah
[11:00] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: why it will get fucked off :D
[11:00] <alex____> actionparsnip: its running now. I was happy for it to take some time, but now 3 days!
[11:00] <OxDeadC0de> that depends on whether or not gdm or kdm is running or some other *dm
[11:00] <ikonia> RanyAlbeg: moderate your language please.
[11:00] <backenfutter> RanyAlbeg, whatch language pls
[11:00] <alex____> *NOT
[11:01] <backenfutter> -h
[11:01] <ikonia> alex____ don't lie - you said it was 1 day before - now your saying 3
[11:01] <RanyAlbeg> sry .
[11:01] <alex____> it has taken 1 day, now that bit finished (reading partition) resizing is gonna take 50 hours!
[11:01] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: what problems can it make? :)
[11:01] <alex____> no lie
[11:01] <ikonia> alex____: thats the tiemm it takes then
[11:02] <alex____> shite... gotta let it go now eh...
[11:02] <ikonia> alex____: you've asked the same question 5 times and you've been told "yes it can take a long time for big partitions with lots of data"
[11:02] <ikonia> alex____: control your language please.
[11:02] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: browser crashes, general instability
[11:02] <alex____> ? I wasn't told at all, just got grumpy old you telling me I ask too much
[11:03] <ikonia> alex____ I told you it could take a long time, and I advised you not to quit it mid-resize
[11:04] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: Thanks, i installed it
[11:05] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: cheers
[11:05] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: :P
[11:05] <alex____> *sigh ... well I hope it doesn't take twice as long as it said it would this time (it did for the last bit)... 100 hours is a lot.
[11:07] <newbe1> sudo  command to remove  wine  please
[11:08] <CoRnJuLiOx> newbe1: sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:08] <newbe1> thanks
[11:08] <sleven> l
[11:08] <ikonia> newbe1 you may find it easier using a tool like synaptic
[11:08] <alex____> newbel: surely you could have thought that out yourself?
[11:08] <ikonia> alex____ he asked a legitate question
[11:08] <ikonia> alex____: gparted presents you with the time yet your still asking how long it takes to finish
[11:08] <ikonia> alex____: people can ask simple questions.
[11:09] <Gorlist> Good Morning, quick question - I just had my desktop crash and return to login prompt, and since then the package manager won't load (it appears on screen for a second then disappears). Any suggestions?
[11:09] <ikonia> Gorlist is anything else that requires root permission to run failing ?
[11:09] <ikonia> Gorlist: more so at a gui level
[11:10] <Gorlist> Will try, one second
[11:10] <Gorlist> Appears to be fine, only the package manager
[11:10] <calwig> anyone know where i can get icecast icegenerator
[11:11] <ikonia> Gorlist ok so from teh command line do "gksudo synaptic" and monitor the output in the terminal
[11:11] <Gorlist> ikonia: nothing
[11:12] <ikonia> Gorlist nothing returned, or nothing happened
[11:12] <Gorlist> nothing returned
[11:12] <Gorlist> it prompts for password, the main gui screen appears then disappears
[11:12] <ikonia> Gorlist: humour me, do "gksudo firefox" - does the same happen ?
[11:12] <Gorlist> (in the taskbar ive also got an error notification of "A problem occurred when checking for the updates")
[11:13] <Gorlist> FireFox loads fine
[11:13] <ikonia> Gorlist interesting
[11:14] <Gorlist> I recently installed alsamixurgui, when I clicked on it the list disappeared for a second before coming back - not sure if thats related
[11:14] <ikonia> Gorlist: lets try this "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal
[11:14] <alex____> Gorlist: try command line: apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:14] <ikonia> alex____ whoaaaaa
[11:14] <ikonia> Gorlist just do the update
[11:14] <Gorlist> Okay thats done a few things, and has completed
[11:14] <alex____> =)
[11:14] <Gorlist> im regards to Ikonia
[11:15] <Gorlist> in..
[11:15] <tanto_> i have 1 data partition which mount on /media/disk. is it okay?, or should be mount on /mnt.
[11:15] <ikonia> Gorlist: so that updated the source file correctly, now, what happens if you try to launch synaptic
[11:15] <ikonia> tanto_: fine on /media
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tanto_: you can mount ANYWHERE except /proc
[11:15] <Gorlist> ikonia: Thank you, thats now working again.
[11:15] <ikonia> Gorlist: cool
[11:15] <VladimirLV> Hello
[11:15] <Gorlist> What do you suspect the problem was?
[11:16] <ikonia> Gorlist: looks like synaptic crashed mid source update, and couldn't recover form the corrupted file
[11:16] <Gorlist> ah right
[11:16] <Gorlist> Okay, well thank you for that :)
[11:16] <VladimirLV> Help me please! Im using postfix mail server and mails from it doesnt reached to gmail.com ?
[11:16] <tanto_> ikonia: actionparsnip: ok. thx a lots.
[11:16] <ikonia> no problem
[11:16] <VladimirLV> Why?
[11:16] <ikonia> VladimirLV: are you on dhcp ?
[11:16] <VladimirLV> ikonia: no
[11:16] <VladimirLV> static ip
[11:16] <ikonia> VladimirLV: home dsl ?
[11:17] <VladimirLV> nooo
[11:17] <xoger> hello all
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV: data center ?
[11:17] <VladimirLV> ikonia: collocation with static ip
[11:17] <VladimirLV> without any dhcp or router
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV ok first thing to do is the postfix log - see if it looks like it's sending
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV: send to other hosts to see if they can get mail
[11:17] <VladimirLV> where is it? can find ;/
[11:17] <VladimirLV> ikonia: yes.. mail.ru - can, inbox.lv - can
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV: check mail black lists to see if your ip is blacklised
[11:17] <VladimirLV> and others - can
[11:17] <VladimirLV> but gmail.com - no
[11:18] <VladimirLV> where is it?
[11:18] <VladimirLV> ikonia: thank you :-)
[11:18] <ikonia> VladimirLV: probably a black list or a r-dns issue
[11:18] <ikonia> VladimirLV: where is what
[11:18] <VladimirLV> black list
[11:18] <ikonia> black list could be on the itnerenet, or internal to google depending on what they use
[11:18] <missille> ActionParsnip: am btw still installing the upgrades, checked out usbview. It gives only an error that it cannot open /proc/bus/usb/devices. could that have to do with my problem?
[11:19] <VladimirLV> ikonia: oh..
[11:19] <VladimirLV> ikonia: some mails is reaching, but some - no
[11:19] <calwig> anyone here know about icecast, icegenerator? please.....!
[11:19] <ikonia> VladimirLV gmail could be queing or blacklisting you
[11:19] <ikonia> VladimirLV: you need to be specific you said no mails where getting to gmail
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !icecast
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !info icecast
[11:20] <newbe1> Help  part of IE6  is still in wine  i need to completely remove the wine app
[11:20] <VladimirLV> ikonia: oh. ok, thank you :-)
[11:20] <Ohmu> GParted says I have a /dev/sda3... and it's an ext3.  but ls /dev/sda3 doesn't work.  how to find whats on it?
[11:21] <filleokus> gday everyone
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: sudo apt-get --pure remove wine
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: also to remove all user settings: rm -rf ~/.wine
[11:21] <filleokus> i have a problem with ffmpeg when im gonna convert movies to my ipod touch
[11:21] <filleokus> http://p.opsat.net/v/1il
[11:22] <tanto_> on m y /fstab, there is an error.  "relatime, errors=remount-ro". what it's mean.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: sudo fdisk -l
[11:22] <ziroday> tanto_: thats not an error, those are mount options
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> relatime needs to be changed to something else
[11:23] <enurien> hello all
[11:23] <clev> ummmm, init is eating 100% cpu
[11:23] <clev> that aint good
[11:23] <Ohmu> ActionParsnip, thanks.  That shows me it's my boot partition.  But how do I see which files are on this partition, and which on my other?  For some unknown reason my ubuntu seems to be spanning 2 partitions. (and thats not counting the swap partitions).
[11:23] <tanto_> ziroday: can you explain, or give me a link related this.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: you need to mount it see the files
[11:25] <newbe1> ActionParsnip>  it said pure is not understood
[11:26] <alexharrington> Any libvirt gurus? Trying to get to the qemu monitor on a kvm setup but having problems
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: --purge
[11:26] <legend2440> newbe1 purge not pure
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: not pure
[11:26] <newbe1> ok
[11:26] <Ohmu> ActionParsnip, its probably mounted somewhere already (else how could it have files in it? ... I started ubuntu with an empty hdd)  Can I list all mounted devices?  /mnt is empty
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: mount on its own will show you what is mounted
[11:27] <dr_willis> Ohmu,  'mount' command shows all mounted media.
[11:27] <useh31337> hi there
[11:28] <newbe1> ok   wine is still in the pull down of applications
[11:28] <dr_willis> Ohmu,  if you some how forget to mount somthing to its mountpoint - you can copy files to the directory.. and sort of not realise the stuff is getting copied to the wrong place
[11:28] <ziroday> alexharrington: you can ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:29] <alex____> wow. I read a post in ubuntuforums, a guy billgoldberg: ran gparted resizing for 70 hours!!!  stopped it and all data were intact! I think I might stop mine, 50 hours of estimated time is too much, recommendations?
[11:29] <alexharrington> ziroday: thanks. Tried in #ubuntu-virt but it's dead atm. I'll try server too
[11:29] <dr_willis> alex____,  what are you resizeing?
[11:29] <alex____> my home partition and some other things
[11:29] <ziroday> alex____: didn't ikonia already tell give you a recommendation?
[11:29] <legend2440> newbe1: you already ran        rm -rf ~/.wine    in terminal?
[11:30] <dr_willis> alex____,  how large? this is ext2/3/ntfs?
[11:30] <alex____> its a 750 gig hdd, wanted room for more space on other partition
[11:30] <alex____> 600 gig p[artition
[11:30] <alex____> could take weeks!
[11:30] <dr_willis> alex____,  50+ hrs... seems way way too long...
[11:30] <newbe1> Lenend2440>  yes it said it is not installed
[11:30] <sibikos> guys, i have an open question
[11:30] <OxDeadC0de> so nobody knows how to at least disable gnomes nm-applet in kde sessions without uninstalling it?
[11:30] <newbe1> Legend2440>  yes it said it is not installed
[11:31] <alex____> seems like its not unexpected, but its a long time! especiall since its a live cd,
[11:31] <alex____> no other apps to use
[11:31] <ziroday> sibikos: what is your question?
[11:31] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  i noticed that gnome and kde's nm applets wehre both running for me under gnome.. so i closed kde's and told the gnome sessions  to not start it.. Perhaps kde's session manager tool has similer thing.
[11:31] <legend2440> newbe1: right click  Applications on top panel choose edit menu and you can remove   the Wine entry in your pulldown menu
[11:32] <newbe1> ok
[11:32] <sibikos> i am wondering how ircd hosting servs ircd shell to its client? we all know that one ircd can run only on one port, how they servs all of their client if everyone want to run ircd at 6667 for example?
[11:32] <OxDeadC0de> I looked through the kde session manager, nm-applet isn't loaded there or anywhere in the default gui's for kde
[11:32] <sibikos> :D
[11:33] <sibikos> like i said, it is an open question. sorry if that kind of question is not suppose to be asked in here ;)
[11:33] <ziroday> OxDeadC0de: you can ask in #kubuntu
[11:34] <simon1245> Hi all :)
[11:34] <VladimirLV> where i can see postfix logs?
[11:35] <useh31337> vladik preved
[11:35] <useh31337> :-D
[11:37] <roy_> im having a keymapping problem - im running an XP virtual machine in ubuntu - it was working fine with hardy heron but on upgrading to RC of intrepid ibex some of my keys are not mapped correctly - any ideas ?
[11:37] <ikonia> !ibex > roy_
[11:37] <ryanhaigh> Hi all, I have been running a disk check on my new 1TB drive all day (checking for bad sectors) and it has just completed. From what I can see there are no errors however as indicated e2fsck reports that there are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63592/
[11:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that roy_
[11:37] <Ohmu> heh it's mounted as / (duh!).  It's /dev/sda1/ thats confusing me now.  I've mounted it and it sesems to have a complete linux filestructure. must have created it in my sleep.   doh
[11:38] <mohbana> hi when is the next release due
[11:38] <bazhang> 10/30 mohbana
[11:38] <ikonia> mohbana end of the month
[11:39] <dr_willis> I think we need to get the bot to msg everyone on join the aswers to that question.. :)
[11:39] <dr_willis> End of month, support in #ubuntu+1 till then,  'when its done' and ... lets see what else always gets asked...
[11:39] <alex____> or 30/10 if you're not american
[11:40] <alex____> jackalope next right?
[11:44] <newbe1> Need IE 6 or higher  for a windows app in wine    I have a IE 6  disc   wine tells me that a newer version is on system
[11:45] <ikonia> newbe1 thats a wine issue, you'll find support for wine in #winehq
[11:45] <newbe1> ikonia>  is that a irc
[11:45] <dr_willis> newbe1,  for wine - ther is that mozzilla-wine thing that is supposed to fake out the wine apps into using mozilla.. or gecko. also.
[11:46] <ikonia> newbe1 it is
[11:49] <economyx> i have a bit of a beginner question if anyone is available
[11:50] <ziroday> economyx: sure, just ask away
[11:51] <economyx> ok, i am dual booting with vista installed first, and i am trying to decrease the partition vista is using to create a third partition, i have downloaded gparted live cd and burned it, but it won't boot when i restart
[11:51] <economyx> it brings me back to the same menu to choose vista or ubuntu
[11:51] <ziroday> economyx: you are aware that the ubuntu livecd includes the gparted partitioner right?
[11:51] <economyx> yeah, and i tried that one too
[11:52] <economyx> it asked me if i would like to reinstall ubuntu
[11:52] <economyx> but i was told thats not necessary
[11:52] <newbe1_> ok   what to do about this IE 6  version thing
[11:52] <FAFA> HY LEH GAB
[11:52] <ziroday> newbe1_: have you seen ie4linux?
[11:52] <bazhang> !en | FAFA
[11:52] <ikonia> newbe1_ #winehq as suggested
[11:53] <legend2440> newbe1_: did you have ie6 installed before you removed wine?
[11:53] <newbe1_> IE 6  fail before it was installed
[11:53] <ziroday> economyx: so you have ubuntu installed currently?
[11:53] <ikonia> newbe1_ #winehq will get you specialist wine support
[11:54] <economyx> ziroday: yes, an i'm using it now
[11:54] <ziroday> economyx: are you aware that you can install gparted on your current ubuntu
[11:55] <economyx> ziroday: i have that as well, and when i run it it shows one large partition encompassing the entire HD... which of course is mounted and i can't mess with it
[11:55] <legend2440> newbe1_: check in folder  /opt  see if ie6 is already in there
[11:55] <newbe1_> allmost ready to delete ubuntu    how do i find  #winehq
[11:55] <ikonia> newbe1_ type "/join #winehq"
[11:55] <newbe1_> where
[11:55] <dr_willis> newbe1_,  or just click onthe word  #winehq in most irc clients...
[11:56] <ikonia> newbe1_newbe1_ in your current irc window
[11:56] <bazhang> newbe1_, where you type 'where'
[11:56] <dr_willis> newbe1_,  giving up on Linux because wine dosent work properly.. isent a very good reason.. :)
[11:56] <ziroday> economyx: ah okay, and you can't just access the live environment on the live cd?
[11:56] <dr_willis> newbe1_,  there are some 'set up ie under linux' tools out there also...
[11:56] <economyx> ziroday: exactly, i'd rather just boot from my livecd and screw with it there
[11:57] <ikonia> economyx so whats the problem ?
[11:57] <Maeva> I have AMD64 and adobe flash 10 but I can't watch the video's on this site: www.deredactie.be other site like youtube work though. I get a black screen and the video doesn't load
[11:58] <economyx> ikonia: well now i'm not entirely sure. i have vista and ubuntu sharing a HD and i want to decrease the partition for vista in order to use the space for a third partition. i have the livecd for gparted but it doesnt boot when i restart... and now i'm not sure if there are even two separate partitions...? gparted from linux shows one big block that is mounted
[11:58] <ikonia> economyx looks like you've merged the two partitions
[11:58] <economyx> ikonia: uh oh, how did i do that??
[11:58] <ikonia> economyx resized one to the full size of the disk normally
[11:59] <jrib> Maeva: wfm on amd64 with flash10.  It takes a couple of seconds to play after clicking the play button.  Did you try waiting a bit so it can buffer?
[11:59] <economyx> ikonia: in fact i haven't messed with the partitions except when i initially installed ubuntu. and now when i try to add files to ubuntu it says i don't have space...
[11:59] <ikonia> economyx I thought you just said you messed with them when you booted gparted from the livecd
[12:00] <Bacta> Hi, how do I install a .sh file?
[12:00] <economyx> ikonia: livecd won't boot for some reason. i'm using gparted through ubuntu
[12:00] <ikonia> economyx what happens when you try to boot
[12:00] <economyx> ikonia: it asks me to use ubuntu or vista
[12:00] <economyx> ikonia: i don't know how to make it boot from CD
[12:00] <ikonia> economyx thats not booting from the cd
[12:00] <ikonia> economyx: thats booting from the harddisk
[12:01] <Mechdave> economyx, what kind of computer have you got?
[12:01] <Maeva> jrib: YEs i waited nothing happens
[12:01] <economyx> mechdave: hp pavilion dv6000
[12:01] <private_meta> hiho... got a small question: i got ubuntu server in a virtual machine, 4gb disk, but i need to set the swap partition to 1gb... how can i resize the system partition to 3gb to be able to increase swap?
[12:02] <newbe1> looks like i am the only user in winehq
[12:02] <jrib> newbe1: you aren't in #winehq...
[12:02] <newbe1> i know
[12:03] <jrib> newbe1: so how does saying "looks like i am the only user in winehq" make any sense?
[12:03] <jrib> Maeva: right now, does youtube work ok?
[12:03] <paul68> I have 2 ethernet cards in my server, only one is active at this point, if I activate the 2nd is that going to interfear with the original setup or can I do this without any problem?
[12:03] <Maeva> yes it does jrib
[12:03] <newbe1> i may just format the ubuntu partition and be done with it   the IE 6 thing sucks
[12:05] <Mechdave> economyx, to get to BIOS you need to press F10 as the HP logo displays
[12:05] <Jockeo> In OpenOffice.Org Calc, how do I generate a set of random numbers based on the "normal distribution", where I manually set the standard deviation?
[12:05] <economyx> mechdave: and from bios?
[12:06] <jrib> Maeva: don't know then, the site is working fine for me and if you get a play button and then after clicking it just a solid black screen then that's exactly what happens here except the video starts after a few seconds of black
[12:06] <floyd> how do i install comix-3.6.5.tar.gz in ubuntu
[12:06] <Archie> hi, i'm completely new to ubuntu, thinking of getting the new 8.10 release.
[12:06] <Mechdave> economyx, when you are there see if you can change the boot priority, I don't have the details yet... still googling
[12:06] <Archie> I have a core 2 duo processor, which I'm guessing will run the AMD64 version, but considering I'm new, mainly will be using it for web/word processing and the occasional gaming, is the extra hassle of running a 64 OS worth it?
[12:06] <Archie> Also, can I run a 64bit ubuntu OS on a different partition, but on the same hard drive as a 32bit windows system?
[12:06] <bazhang> just downloaded the free crossover office pro; it is a .sh file; is the correct action to move to /usr/bin/ and then chmod +x and ./filename.sh ?
[12:06] <Archie> Thanks
[12:06] <economyx> mechdave: i'm sorry i know that's horribly green of me, i just messed with it for a couple hours though and got absolutely stumped. shouldn't i be able to shrink my vista partition through gparted in ubuntu without booting from cd? it just shows one big mounted partition
[12:06] <FloodBot1> Archie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <Maeva> ok thx jrib it's strange though
[12:07] <jrib> !info comix | floyd
[12:07] <Maeva> can I download the release candidate or should I wait for Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:07] <jrib> floyd: avoid downloading tar.gz as they are usually not necessary.  It is better to install software from the repositories using a program like Add/Remove or synaptic
[12:08] <bazhang> I'm guessing I need to sudo chmod +x; is that about right?
[12:08] <floyd> i went to add/remove and it wasnt in there
[12:08] <floyd> when i typed the name
[12:08] <floyd> ill try again
[12:08] <jrib> floyd: use synaptic
[12:08] <Pici> floyd: It may not be, not everything is in add/remove.
[12:08] <Ujjwol> how to shutdown X window but after restart start as normalk
[12:08] <Mechdave> economyx, you dont need to apologise for being new at this, we all were there once :)
[12:08] <Pici> floyd: Everything is in Synaptic though. See System>Administration
[12:08] <floyd> its weird cuz it was in my buddies and not mine
[12:08] <floyd> okay
[12:08] <jrib> Ujjwol: what do you mean by "normal"?
[12:08] <floyd> thanks guys
[12:09] <jrib> floyd: make sure you've enabled universe in Software Sources as well
[12:09] <Mechdave> economyx, could you please re state your problem for me?
[12:09] <Ujjwol> jrib, i mean same login window and gnome desktop | for now i want to shudown X and work on tty2
[12:09] <Ujjwol> others
[12:09] <ziroday> bazhang: yeah chmod+x it, then do sudo -i and then run the .sh file. The cx stuff puts itself in /opt
[12:09] <floyd> it worked!!! thanks again
[12:09] <floyd> man that makes things alot easier
[12:09] <economyx> mechdave: i have gparted installed in ubuntu but when i open it it shows one big partition labeled '/host' and of course i can't mess with it because it's mounted. i'm not even sure my OS's are on different partitions now...
[12:10] <jrib> Ujjwol: you realize you can work in tty2 and keep X working in tty7 (just hit ctrl-alt-f2 and ctrl-alt-f7 to come back to X).  Why do you need to shutdown X?
[12:10] <bazhang> ziroday, thanks! so no need to mv to /usr/bin/ ?
[12:10] <paul68> I have 2 ethernet cards in my server, only one is active at this point, if I activate the 2nd is that going to interfear with the original setup or can I do this without any problem?
[12:10] <ziroday> bazhang: nope
[12:10] <r0nda> have any of you guys moved from windows Vista to Ubuntu and loved it ?
[12:10] <bazhang> ziroday, cheers :)
[12:10] <ziroday> bazhang: it installs itself to /opt
[12:10] <economyx> r0nda: yes yes yes
[12:10] <Mechdave> economyx, just a minute I am doing some reading on gparted
[12:11] <Ace2016_> http://down.codeweavers.com/   ITS FREE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:11] <Pici> Ace2016_: Please don't advertise  in this channel.
[12:11] <Ace2016_> -_-
[12:11] <Pici> paul68: You will probably need to setup the routes for the new chard.
[12:12] <Ace2016_> its free, not advertising, its completely free to download + license for the pro version
[12:12] <Ujjwol> jrib, i need to shudown X so to save power of laptop when i can manage to work on tty2-7
[12:12] <Ujjwol> jrib, isn;t there any way
[12:12] <Pici> paul68: sorry, 'card'
[12:12] <jrib> Ujjwol: ah, well just logout and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' in tty2
[12:13] <Ujjwol> jrib, when i shutdown and login in next time will the x be normal
[12:13] <Mechdave> economyx, hgow did you manage to install gparted on to the hard drive?
[12:13] <paul68> Pici: I know I need to do that but in order to continue I need to know if I can safely activate both interfaces without interfearing with the current setup
[12:13] <jrib> Ujjwol: yep
[12:13] <economyx> mechdave: synaptic manager
[12:13] <Pici> paul68: I'm unsure of what effects it will have on the current state.  Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server as well?
[12:13] <alex____> how do I boot to a command line form grub?
[12:13] <jrib> alex____: for what purpose?
[12:13] <alex____> init=/ or something right?
[12:14] <Mechdave> economyx, Oh I see, you have Ubuntu installed and you used synaptic to install gparted on to Ubuntu
[12:14] <alex____> uninstall firestarter, which causes freeze on boot
[12:14] <dr_willis> alex____,  append 'single' to the end of the kernel options in the grub menus
[12:14] <jrib> alex____: select "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[12:14] <Ujjwol> jrib, /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[12:14] <dr_willis> or recovery mode. :) if ya look i think it has single on the end.
[12:14] <jrib> Ujjwol: kdm or xdm then
[12:14] <cloud-ieee> What is the command in terminal to update distro?
[12:14] <paul68> Pici: no I didn't but at this point  eth0 is staying like it was no changes there eth1 is going to activate adn gets another range of IP other then that there are no changes yet since I need to work out the firewall part
[12:14] <floyd> can i find plugins for compiz in synaptic?
[12:14] <Ujjwol> jrib, ok
[12:15] <jrib> !upgrade > cloud-ieee
[12:15] <economyx> mechdave: yes. i installed ubuntu through vista to dual-boot. i assigned it 25GB partition space, and installed gparted later. now i can't see the separate partitions, it all shows up as /dev/sda1 and it's labeled '/boot /host' and i can't mess with it because it's mounted
[12:15] <floyd> prolly not
[12:15] <dr_willis> floyd,  fire up synaptic and search?
[12:15] <floyd> lol
[12:15] <floyd> okay
[12:15] <floyd> thanks
[12:15] <Ujjwol> jrib, kdm or xdm both said same as for gdm
[12:15] <Ujjwol> not found
[12:15] <alex____> recovery mode didn't work. gonna try single
[12:15] <fiyawerx> how can i disable xterm not passing through ctrl key?
[12:15] <fiyawerx> it seems like its intercepting it
[12:15] <jrib> Ujjwol: what ubuntu are you using? ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu?
[12:15] <Ujjwol> ubuntu
[12:16] <Mechdave> economyx, can you see the size of this partition?
[12:16] <Ujjwol> jrib, hardy
[12:16] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  its possible its the window manager, or compiz  intercepting it..
[12:16] <jrib> Ujjwol: ps -ef | grep gdm return anything?
[12:16] <economyx> mechdave: yes, i'm using 65.11 GB of 140 max. but it's all on one partition
[12:16] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, ahh do you know where to turn it off in gnome?
[12:16] <ttye0> Easytag and/or both my ID3 related libs are writing tags that are typically malformed on my Pilot MP3 player. Has anyone else experienced this issue? It's only on the player
[12:16] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  i tend to just disable compiz as a #1 thing to test  in such a case
[12:17] <Mechdave> economyx, have you lost vista?
[12:17] <Ujjwol> jrib, yes
[12:17] <economyx> mechdave: nope. i can boot either perfectly
[12:17] <jrib> Ujjwol: what does it return?
[12:17] <Ujjwol> jrib,
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      1989     1  0 03:44 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      2090  1989  0 03:44 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      2091  2090 12 03:44 tty7     00:06:18 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-cookie-XX3B8XJU-for-gdm -nolisten tcp
[12:17] <Ujjwol> gdm       2140     1  0 03:44 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[12:17] <FloodBot1> Ujjwol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      2224  2090  0 03:45 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker
[12:17] <alex____> hmm... I think single is no good too. I wan to stop firestarter from starting, boot to command line (really early) and uninstall firestarter. It conflicts with serialmonkey rt73
[12:17] <paul68> Pici: no I didn't but at this point  eth0 is staying like it was no changes there eth1 is going to activate adn gets another range of IP other then that there are no changes yet since I need to work out the firewall part
[12:18] <alex____> what is the kernel option in grub to boot only to root chell?
[12:18] <Ujjwol> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/63603/
[12:18] <dr_willis> alex____,  single normally works for me.. or init=/bin/bash   perhaps
[12:18] <alex____> thats it!
[12:18] <Mechdave> economyx, right, ok now sounds like you are seeing the Ubuntu partitions /boot and the root directory /
[12:19] <dr_willis> I dont see how firestarter can be doing this.. its a gui front end...
[12:19] <alex____> init=/bin/bash
[12:19] <alex____> thanks
[12:19] <alex____> I thnk I'll remember that from now on
[12:19] <dr_willis> init=/bin/nethack
[12:19] <dr_willis> :)
[12:19] <Mechdave> economyx, and not the vista partition
[12:19] <alex____> lol
[12:19] <jrib> Ujjwol: and what does 'ls /etc/init.d/?dm' return?
[12:19] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, heh, its crawl that im trying to play :) gonna drive me nuts if i can't find this.. cant disable stinkin traps without ctrl
[12:20] <economyx> mechdave: sorry, i'm not sure what you mean. i can only see /dev/sda1 and it's ntfs, i'm thinking somehow they're both there. because i can't be using 65GB of space on my ubuntu partition
[12:20] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  try the game in a dfferent window manager/terminal application also.. as a test
[12:20] <alex____> i guess you hardcore folk always use init=/etc/vim
[12:20] <fiyawerx> turned visual affects off
[12:20] <dr_willis> alex____,  init=/bin/irssi :)
[12:20] <alex____> ???
[12:21] <Kian841> hi guys! i have a problem with aMule... i noticed that my servers didn't work, so i deleted them and downloaded a new list and yesterday i was able to see all the servers i also have on eMule on Windows........... today i reopened aMule and i see the old servers mixed with the new ones.... and if i click on a good server, aMule keeps on connecting to unknown ones... and the downloads don't work..... what can i do?
[12:21] <ne2k__> alex____: are you trying to have a nick that ends with more underscores than mine?
[12:21] <Ujjwol> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/63604/
[12:22] <alex____> nope... limechat chose it for me
[12:22] <jrib> Ujjwol: what is that the output of?  It's not of 'ls /etc/init.d/?dm'
[12:22] <Ujjwol> jrib, pasted here output http://paste.ubuntu.com/63604/
[12:22] <alex____> but i do have a nick with more ___ than you
[12:23] <jrib> Ujjwol: did you just run 'ls /etc/init.d/' instead?
[12:23] <Ujjwol> there is output visit that site
[12:23] <jrib> Ujjwol: right, but I am trying to figure out the command that gave you that output
[12:23] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, tried aterm - don't have another wm to try just using gnome, im pretty sure i've run into this before
[12:24] <fiyawerx> but can't for the life of me seem to find where to tell it to ignore control keys as an app
[12:24] <Mechdave> economyx, ok now I have installed gparted too...  top right hand side make sure the drop down list has /dev/sda visible
[12:24] <steveccc> hi all - i have a usb2 hard disk which I have inserted and can see in dmesg is sdc but its the first time I have used it and it has an ntfs filesystem - what is the easiest way to wipe it and format as ext3
[12:24] <jrib> steveccc: gparted
[12:24] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  ive never seen xterm 'steal' the control key.. its very likely its comiz doing it.. IF you are using compiz.. install  'jwm' and try it in there.. its about as small andminimal a window manger as ya can get.
[12:25] <alex____> I cant remove firestarter... i get 'unable to write to /var/cache/apt/' help!
[12:25] <jrib> alex____: because you are being silly.  Just stop from starting
[12:25] <demontager> how to on or off kernel module? I mean do not use command rmmod
[12:25] <alex____> how
[12:25] <Mechdave> alex____, are you trying to remove it as sudo?
[12:26] <alex____> started as root ... much harder than sudo!
[12:26] <jrib> alex____: well first you have to figure out how it starts.  Then I would use a live cd and stop it from starting
[12:26] <Pici> demontager: Put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist if you don't want it to be inserted on boot.
[12:26] <alex____> ...
[12:26] <Ujjwol> jrib, what to do
[12:26] <demontager> thANKS
[12:26] <steveccc> jrib: thanks installing it now - what is the easiest way to encrypt a whole disk?
[12:26] <jrib> Ujjwol: tell me the command you ran that gave you the output you pastebinned
[12:26] <alex____> if i rm /etc/init.d/firestarter, that should do it right?
[12:27] <jrib> steveccc: don't know about encryption
[12:27] <jrib> alex____: just chmod -x that
[12:27] <Ujjwol> jrib, ls /etc/init.d/ ?dm
[12:27] <dr_willis> alex____,  or just move it.. :)
[12:27] <jrib> Ujjwol: ok.  Did you mess around with gdm settings or something?  You don't have a /etc/init.d/gdm
[12:27] <alex____> read only filesystem
[12:28] <alex____> chmod ?
[12:28] <Ujjwol> jrib, not at all
[12:28] <haluk>  hi guys, got en error "LaTeX Error: File `rotating.sty' not found" but idk what package is missing? Can anyone help me?
[12:28] <jrib> Ujjwol: what does 'apt-cache policy gdm' return?
[12:28] <LjL> jrib, there is a space between / and ? there
[12:28] <Elektrikz> hi, is there a way to return the panels options to default?
[12:28] <jrib> LjL: right, but I just grepped the output myself to save time :)
[12:29] <LjL-Temp> !resetpanel | Elektrikz
[12:29] <Ujjwol> jrib, there is any way kill the X process
[12:29] <jrib> Ujjwol: sure, but I don't see how gdm will be starting without a /etc/init.d/gdm
[12:29] <LjL> Ujjwol: of course there is, but you most certainly shouldn't be trying to do that if you don't have a working gdm
[12:29] <jrib> !resetpanel | Elektrikz
[12:30] <alex____> bloody firestarter. I should log a bug with serialmonkey
[12:30] <dulak> what's a good gnome burner program?
[12:30] <jrib> LjL: Ujjwol just wants to turn off gdm (he's in X now), and somehow has no /etc/init.d/gdm.  ps -ef | grep gdm  returns a bunch gdm stuff too
[12:30] <LjL> !burn | dulak
[12:30] <Elektrikz> tnx! :)
[12:30] <dulak> thanks
[12:31] <jrib> alex____: just use recovery mode, or if that fails because of firestarter too, use a live cd
[12:31] <LjL> jrib: maybe he's asked the same question before, and he's been answered to update-rc.d gdm remove?
[12:31] <LjL> jrib: well no, that wouldn't remove it from init.d anyway
[12:31] <Ujjwol> LjL, i didn't did update-rc or anything like that
[12:33] <alex____> yep i used a live cd to mv /etc/init.d/firestarter to somewhere else
[12:33] <jrib> alex____: then move it back and purge firestarter
[12:33] <alex____> yep!
[12:33] <alex____> great
[12:33] <alex____> booted up fine
[12:34] <alex____> and quitting gparted didn't break anthing!
[12:34] <kasansweat> I have a laptop with an intel video card and a minimal xorg.conf with one screen on top of the other as a large virtual screen for dual head.  This only works in Gnome, other window managers just duplicate the screen -- how can I get this working in other wms?
[12:35] <ziroday> kasansweat: which window manager are you thinking about here?
[12:35] <kasansweat> ziroday - something more minimal, xfce or flux.
[12:36] <ziroday> kasansweat: have you tried asking in #xubuntu or the projects respective rooms?
[12:36] <kasansweat> ziroday - not yet. I am interesting in figuring out how Gnome automatically "knows" how to do this where the others dont.
[12:37] <ziroday> kasansweat: ah, well I am not familiar with xfce or fluxbox sorry, all I can recommend you do is ask in the projects respective rooms about the dual screens :)
[12:38] <Ujjwol> jrib, any updates on howto
[12:38] <kasansweat> ziroday - aha, thanks anyway, I'll poke around and see what i can find.
[12:38] <steveccc> can anyone help me please on the best way to encrypt a whole disk
[12:38] <jrib> Ujjwol: what does 'apt-cache policy gdm' return?
[12:38] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, hmm, think ive narrowed it down a little. It appears its just ctrl-numpad that isn't working
[12:38] <Ujjwol> jrib, it's empty
[12:38] <Ujjwol> just display nothing
[12:39] <jrib> Ujjwol: that's not possible, there has to be output.  The command is: apt-cache policy gdm
[12:39] <Ujjwol> yes
[12:40] <cokerja> halo????
[12:40] <dulak> that can't return empty, even if a package isn't installed it will show the package and just not show it installed
[12:40] <LjL> Ujjwol: ok, so let's try "apt-cache policy sdf", that will definitely display something
[12:40] <cokerja> ngemengepe seh lo???
[12:41] <LjL> !en | cokerja
[12:41] <Pici> !id | cokerja
[12:41] <Ujjwol> Lij now i have to go u know power problem in india
[12:41] <cokerja> emboh lah...........
[12:41] <pawan> hi
[12:42] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[12:42] <ziroday> pawan: end of the month
[12:42] <cokerja> htjrth
[12:42] <cokerja> rthrer
[12:42] <Pici> pawan: October 30th
[12:42] <cokerja> herhr
[12:42] <cokerja> thrth
[12:42] <cokerja> rthwr
[12:42] <cokerja> thwrtj
[12:42] <FloodBot1> cokerja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <pawan> surely
[12:43] <Lovok> I am working on my Conky rc, and I am getting "permission denied" for statfs ; any ideas what I should do?
[12:43] <FloodBot1> cokerja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <Lovok> bump : I am working on my Conky rc, and I am getting "permission denied" for statfs ; any ideas what I should do?
[12:45] <Pici> Lovok: Where are you trying to edit it?
[12:46] <Lovok> Pici: off my /home
[12:46] <dr_willis> Lovok,  you mean  your conly config cis having issues with its statfs feature? or are you havingissues Editing the .conkyrc?
[12:47] <Pici> Lovok: Its possible that you've accidentally set ownership to root if you've been using sudo or gksudo on programs that you don't need to use them against.
[12:47] <yaya> i can't extract .tar.bz2 file. why?
[12:47] <Pici> yaya: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2
[12:47] <intan> yudj6yj
[12:47] <Lovok> dr_willis: when I run my .conkyrc (located in /home), I get "Conky: statfs '/dev/Jupiter/Ganymede': Permission denied"
[12:47] <intan> 78jft7j
[12:48] <humbolt> does anybody know, where and when mark shuttelworth will next be speaking publicly?
[12:48] <Pici> Lovok: Sorry, I misunderstood the question.
[12:48] <Lovok> Pici: No problem :) I might not have been clear enough
[12:48] <ikonia> humbolt check the fridge calander, bit off topic for this channel
[12:49] <Lovok> Should I run my conky using gksudo ?
[12:49] <Pici> Lovok: no.
[12:49] <paul68> Pici: parently everybody is still asleep in the server channel
[12:50] <ikonia> paul68: I'm awake
[12:50] <ikonia> paul68: try waiting longer than 60 seconds for a rezsponse
[12:50] <ikonia> response
[12:51] <paul68> ikonia: understood but was kicked out from the chanel that's why I had to reask my question
[12:51] <Lovok> Any ideas on how I can circumvent the permission issue?
[12:52] <ikonia> Lovok what permissions issue
[12:52] <Lovok> ikonia: when I run my .conkyrc (located in /home), I get "Conky: statfs '/dev/Jupiter/Ganymede': Permission denied"
[12:52] <dr_willis> Lovok,  hmm.. either you are doing somthign weird.. or thats a very odd /dev/SOMTHING/SOMTHING name... normally it wants a Mount Point
[12:53]  * Elektrikz rr -.-
[12:53] <ikonia> Lovok thats a device file system, what is /dev/Jupiter/Ganymede
[12:53] <Lovok> ikonia: It is my partition for (i think) home, using LVM
[12:54] <ikonia> Lovok ok - so it should be monitoring where its mounted, not the device file, look at your conky config
[12:54] <dulak> Lovok: use /home not the /dev
[12:54] <Lovok> Alright, thanks guys :) Will do
[12:55] <dr_willis> Lovok,  which is to say.. it wants a mount point. :)
[12:56] <lucax> how do i configure pidgin auto response when im away?
[12:56] <sleven> how do i make the files on the desktop sort themselves in rows?
[12:56] <jbroome_> how do i find answers for myself?
[12:56] <lucax> ask here
[12:58] <kiamo> hi
[12:58] <lucax> hi kiamo
[12:59] <kiamo> how do i determine what device my cf card reader is? so i can mount it
[12:59] <kiamo> im running ubuntu server
[13:00] <lucax> fs -l
[13:01] <cambridgecow> does anybody know if canonical provides developer support?
[13:01] <rski> how do you mean
[13:01] <kiamo> it says "fs command not found, you can get it by sudo apt get etc. then when i apt get it it says it cant find it..
[13:01] <kiamo> nm i mispelled it lol
[13:01] <Ethos> noob
[13:02] <dimebar> am running into problems with the wifi (Atheros AR5001X) on this laptop: it says the driver is active in the 'Hardware Drivers' window but nothing shows up in iwconfig
[13:02] <Hilton> Okay so, yesterday I install Ubuntu 7.04 mistakenly thinking it was the latest. My bad.
[13:02] <jbroome_> oops
[13:02] <Hilton> Today I get 8.04 (didn't feel like using an RC), burn it, try to install.
[13:03] <rski> 6months release scheduele proving to be rapid
[13:03] <rski> yet again.
[13:03] <ziroday> cambridgecow: what do you mean?
[13:03] <jbroome_> Hilton: the final is released in 2 days.  probably gonna wish you installed intrepid
[13:03] <Hilton> Every time Ubuntu tries to start, it freezes up - the bouncing bar stops at some point (different every time) and just stays there forever. Nothing else happens - I let it run for 15 minutes one of the times.
[13:04] <Hilton> This includes the Try Live and Install options.
[13:04] <kiamo> lucax: whats fs? iv installed it but it says unrecognized operation "-l"
[13:04] <Hilton> Did a Check for CD Defects, it says errors found in 6 files ... on an ISO I just downloaded direct from ubuntu.com and burned to a fresh CD?
[13:05] <ikonia> Hilton check the checksum on th image so you nkow if the problem is the image or the burn
[13:05] <jbroome_> Hilton: re-download, chck the md5sum and burn it again slower
[13:05] <cambridgecow> ziroday, i'm looking to get some help making debs I have spent some time working with the MOTU's but I'd really rather just pay someone to help me, that way they work around my schedule
[13:05] <jbroome_> !md5 > Hilton
[13:05] <paul68> ikonia if you would be so kind to check the server thanks
[13:05] <ziroday> cambridgecow: I have no idea about that, sorry.
[13:05] <cambridgecow> no problem, I emailed canonical and I expect they will get back to me sooner or later
[13:07] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, is thar for an opensource app ?
[13:07] <Hilton> jbroome_: Perhaps I should wait until the final is released before I play around any more. It's going to be 2 days before I get to actually play with the OS anyway.
[13:07] <cambridgecow> yes
[13:08] <GleepGlop> curious, i've had to compile a kernel module for an onboard nic, will I have recompile the module and insmod and depmod -a every time I update the kernel?
[13:08] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, buf you just need working .debs, or plan to have them include on the official repositories ?
[13:08] <jbroome_> Hilton: you can download and install now to beat the rush.  if you keep the machine updated with apt-get dist-upgrade it'll be the same as if you downloaded on release day
[13:08] <joaopinto> including on the repositories is a stricter process :\
[13:08] <kiamo> how do i determine what device to mount to access my cf card reader?
[13:08] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, i don't anticipate that they will ever be in the repos, but i want to make sure they are correctly built debs... I'm going to be shipping them as part of a suite of applications we're selling
[13:09] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, so they need to be professional quality
[13:09] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, you can also try requesting at getdeb
[13:09] <cambridgecow> what is getdeb?
[13:09] <lukasthum> kp
[13:09] <lukasthum> who is german in here?
[13:10] <lukasthum> g
[13:10] <lukasthum> e
[13:10] <lukasthum> r
[13:10] <lukasthum> m
[13:10] <lukasthum> a
[13:10] <FloodBot1> lukasthum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <lukasthum> n
[13:10] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, a software portal for ubuntu, www.getdeb.net
[13:10] <torgrim> fail
[13:10] <ziroday> !de | lukasthum
[13:10] <chombee> If I use the 'Print' function in gedit to print to pdf then it outputs my source code text files all nicely line-wrapped and syntax-highlighted. Does anyone know of a way to do this en-masse, if I have a lot of text files I want to convert to nice PDFs?
[13:10] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, cool thanks I was unaware of getdeb.net
[13:10] <mikebeecham> hi guys...wonder if I can ask a question:  Will Ubuntu 8.10 have greater support for Windows shared folders over a dual boot system, or will SMB be easier to implement.  I have a windows system that I'm thinking about dual booting, but my media center accesses media from windows shared folders over SMB
[13:11] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: you wouldn't use smb to share on a dual boot system
[13:11] <scunizi> chombee, you might be able to use imagemagic and it's convert function
[13:12] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: you'd mount the other partition or drive in Ubuntu
[13:12] <mikebeecham> GleepGlop: it's difficult to explain everything in my first post!! :D  I have a mac mini in another room, which utilises SMB to access the media from the PC.  If I turn my pc into a dualboot system I want my media center to be able to access those shares irrespective as to whether I am logged into PC or Linux
[13:12] <Hilton> Did it get really quiet or am I lagged?
[13:13] <dulak> mikebeecham: you can use samba to smb share it from the linux boot
[13:13] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: ahh, I see. I 've never had a problem networking my mac, linux, and windows boxes using samba
[13:13] <pawan> whats samba
[13:14] <mikebeecham> dulak: GleepGlop, can I use samba with IP address....it makes sense to do it this way?
[13:14] <dulak> mikebeecham: what do you mean with ip address?  as in accessing the share by ip?  yes
[13:14] <mikebeecham> I'm using software called Plex, which is a derivative of XBMC
[13:14] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, so I donm't think getdeb will be the best bet for me... the main thing I need built is dc1394 support for the version of gstreamer distributed with hardy, do you think the people at getdeb would know how/want to do that/
[13:14] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: instead of hostname? yes, ip is preferred. If i'm sharing on a LAN I always use statics
[13:15] <dulak> mikebeecham: plex works great with a linux smb share, I have it setup from my file server here at home
[13:15] <tanto_> pici: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2 ="cannot open:no such file or directory"
[13:15] <mikebeecham> dulak: YAY...someone who knows what I'm talking about when I say PLEX :D
[13:15] <mikebeecham> I created the mediastream skin, by the way :D
[13:15] <Next1> Is it normal to have unauthenticated apt updates?
[13:15] <Sephiroth> I'm trying to manually update the m4 installation in Heron to 1.4.12, how would I do this from source? I've already got the source tarball to use and already configured it once.
[13:15] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: too bad you have to share to a windows box, because NFS is so much faster.
[13:15] <tparcina> instructions on http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p5 tell me to install cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data but I get message "E: Package cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data has no installation candidate" can you recommend me what to do?
[13:15] <dulak> mikebeecham: very nice, but that skin effs with my playback for some reason
[13:15] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, that would mean changing a core library (gstreamer), we don't do such packaging, stability concerns
[13:16] <mikebeecham> GleepGlop: yeah, but I also use Photoshop CS3, which does not work in Ubuntu at present
[13:16] <tparcina> or, if someone can recommend me better instructions how to install print server
[13:16] <dulak> mikebeecham: with that skin enabled, if I FF, audio goes WAY out of sync, it's weird
[13:16] <mikebeecham> dulak: what machine do you use it on?  Mini?
[13:16] <dulak> mikebeecham: yes
[13:16] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: I know, that sucks, maybe one day Adobe will listen
[13:16] <mikebeecham> dulak: new plex release is about to drop...hold yer breath for that resolution!
[13:16] <mikebeecham> I now work with Plex
[13:17] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, well so dc1394 ships with bad10.6 which is the version that ships with hardy... hardy is missing libdc1394-22, also are you sure that the version of dc1394 in the newer version of bad isn't compatible with the current gstreamer-core in hardy?
[13:17] <mikebeecham> GleepGlop: hence why I need dualboot
[13:17] <mikebeecham> to make matters worse, I've just gotten CS4...theres' NO way that's going to run!!
[13:17] <GleepGlop> anyone? custom kernel modules should be recompiled and installed after a kernel update?
[13:17] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, hardy doesn't have libdc1394-22 which is required for dc1394src so its not included with hardy
[13:17] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: never underestimate the wine community
[13:17] <dulak> mikebeecham: you can even use the same ip, same hostname, and same share/workgroup names between linux boot and windows boot, though it might make more sense to use 2 sources to avoid confusion
[13:18] <Sephiroth> I'm trying to manually update the m4 installation in Heron to 1.4.12, how would I do this from source? I've already got the source tarball to use and already configured it once.
[13:18] <mikebeecham> dulak...might have to hit you up when I dual boot the PC to know how thats done, if thats ok?
[13:18] <ronnie> !m4
[13:18] <Sephiroth> In other words, where would I tell m4 to install to?
[13:18] <Next1> Why do I have pending apt updates that are unauthenticated?
[13:18] <stever> hello, why my gedit is so slow every time?
[13:18] <dulak> mikebeecham: I'm around a lot
[13:18] <jjdiamond> will i be able to upgrade from 8.04LTS to 8.10?
[13:19] <jrib> jjdiamond: yes
[13:19] <mikebeecham> dulak: thanks mate....will wait till 8.10 drops then will d/l and install
[13:19] <jjdiamond> cool.
[13:19] <GleepGlop> stever: launching gedit or just general use is slow?
[13:20] <stever> every time i start gedit with sudo , it is so slowly that will takes more than 5 mins to start, why ? how can do?
[13:20] <domas> why would people strip symbols from packages? :(
[13:20] <GleepGlop> stever: but it starts ok as a regular user?
[13:20] <dulak> domas: symbols only necessary for devel debugging, unstripped binaries take up more space on the drive as well as more ram for no gain in production
[13:20] <mikebeecham> one other question, if I can....how easy will it be to implement dual-screen?  I have an Nvidia card
[13:20] <cambridgecow> stever, have you tried starting it with gksudo/
[13:20] <cambridgecow> ?
[13:20] <domas> dulak: on-disk bit is true, in-memory is false
[13:21] <lucax> domas: if u are using intrepid ibex the same happen to me
[13:21] <dulak> domas: absolutely not, try an unstripped apache and compare ram usage with a stripped version
[13:21] <GleepGlop> stever: I second starting it with gksu
[13:21] <domas> dulak: on the other hand, symbols can be used in daily system administrator work (like oprofile usage :)
[13:21] <cambridgecow> gksu? or gksudo?
[13:21] <cloud-ieee> How can I switch over to a Gui boot in Ubuntu? Right now it is all text at login.
[13:21] <GleepGlop> I always use gksu
[13:21] <domas> dulak: you're probably not seeing the difference between VSIZE and actual memory use :)
[13:22] <domas> dulak: the page is on disk, it doesn't have to be in memory unless referenced
[13:22] <tanto_> cannot extract using tar xjvf, why?
[13:22] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, did you install the server or desktop client?
[13:22] <stever> just take sudo with gksu?
[13:22] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, can you start the gui with "startx"
[13:22] <cambridgecow> stever, use gksudo
[13:22] <cloud-ieee> Cambrigde, I installed the client through a network install.
[13:22] <Sephiroth> Where would I tell m4 to install to, so the cli comes up with my version instead of ubuntu's version?
[13:22] <GleepGlop> stever: hit alt+F2: gksu gedit
[13:22] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, but did you install the server or desktop edition?
[13:22] <dulak> domas: again, run apache side by side and get back to me on that ram usage thing
[13:23] <Cephisus> Using 8.04 if I lock the screen I can't unlock it unless I switch user. I get an unknown user in my logs, but the user exists in /etc/passwd
[13:23] <lucax> does any one knoe how to delete the arrow uppon gnome-menu?
[13:23] <KDB9000> hey everyone. I am having some trouble installing 8.10 into my Hardy system after a kernal update (not to Intrepid). I have an install log and it has "Failed to build fglrx-8.542 with DKMS". Any thoughts?
[13:23] <KDB9000> Sorry, 8.10 is the for the ATi Driver
[13:23] <domas> dulak: do you sum up data in top/ps columns too? :-)))))
[13:24] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, are you doing a clean install or an upgrade?
[13:24] <stever> sorry, but it do nothing while i do so
[13:24] <cloud-ieee> Cambridge, I installed the Desktop client
[13:24] <cloud-ieee> Should I run this in the terminal? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, what happens when you type: startx
[13:24] <stever> stever: hit alt+F2: gksu gedit.... i did it, but return nothing
[13:24] <cloud-ieee> Cambrigde, currently I am running this command : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, I removed the old version from DKMS so I would say clean. I had an old version for one of my other kernals but it broke after the kernal upgrade.
[13:24] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, if you don't have a desktop installed the, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install it for you, but if you installed the desktop edition it should already have been installed
[13:25] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, so you want to upgrade to intrepid/
[13:25] <cambridgecow> ?
[13:25] <domas> dulak: even if those pages would be read into memory, they'd be released after any system work, due to LRU policies ;-)
[13:25] <domas> dulak: and symbol tables have great locality :)
[13:25] <Cephisus> Does anyone have any thoughts about the following: using 8.04 if I lock the screen I can't unlock it unless I switch user. I get an unknown user in my logs, but the user exists in /etc/passwd and it's getting pretty annnoying
[13:25] <domas> dulak: what the heck would apache comparison tell me?
[13:25] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, not right now. Right now I just want to get my ATi card working with direct rendering again.
[13:25] <cloud-ieee> Cambridge, the network install gave me the option to install the desktop or the desktop suite. I chose the desktop install. For some reason it lead me to the text interface and not the desktop gui.
[13:26] <benzss> what would you use to transcode .vob to .avi? (xvid or whatever)
[13:26] <chombee> If I installed the cups-pdf package, anyone know how I can print to PDF from the command line, e.g. using lpr? It looks like I need t oset the $PRINTER environment variable, but I don't know what to. The device name of the printer seems to be cups-pdf:/ but that doesn't work
[13:26] <cambridgecow> so I'm not sure what you want to do, why did you want to upgrade to 8.1
[13:26] <cambridgecow> 8.10
[13:26] <jarussi> hi, can anyone help me with instalation of ubuntu 8.04 x64 ?
[13:26] <cambridgecow> jarussi, what is the problem?
[13:26] <cambridgecow> !ask | jarussi
[13:27] <stever> gksu is as slowly as sudo? my god!!
[13:27] <jarussi> sorry =)
[13:27] <stever> who can help me
[13:27] <cambridgecow> stever, do you have the same problem when using sudo with other commands?
[13:28] <stever> no,just gedit
[13:28] <cambridgecow> stever try changing your password
[13:28] <stever> sudo gedit is very slowly
[13:28] <cambridgecow> stever, never mind
[13:28] <krokodilerian> ok, I was stupid last night to upgrade to interpid and seems like that they killed xserver-xgl from it. My problem is that now when firefox loads a big page everything just stops for a while, as the X server is eating all the CPU possible and everything else is waiting (that wasn't happening with xgl). I'm using nvidia, compiz, x86_64 machine, any ideas ot should I open a bug in launchpad?
[13:28] <stever> chang my root passwd?
[13:28] <LjL> !intrepid | krokodilerian
[13:28] <cambridgecow> stever, you shouldn't have a root password only a userpassword
[13:28] <LjL> !root | stever
[13:28] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, one, it isn't fully released and isn't fully released till the 31 of this month plus I already have 8.04 and haven't seen the upgrade button yet, second, it won't solve my problem, I will still need to install the ATi drivers.
[13:29] <nurv101> hey
[13:29] <dulak> domas: I have seen the differences in real ram usage from stripped apache vs. non-stripped.  You can argue it all you like, but I have SEEN it. Whether it's an issue with apache specifically or symbols, I don't care, I just know my servers run leaner if I strip.
[13:29] <jarussi> i've instaled it on a particion of my hd, c: - formated the particion and stuff .. created the swap, and the / particion too .. installed and when I restarte, gets te DISK BOOT FAILURE thing .. anyone knows what it can be?
[13:29] <nurv101> does any one here have problems connecting to an wpa protected network using ipw2100?
[13:29] <domas> dulak: how do you see 'real ram usage'?
[13:29] <dulak> domas: also, imo if you are to the point where you need symbols, you are probably already gonna be rolling your own packages for production
[13:29] <Sephiroth> Where is Ubuntu's m4 1.4.10 package installed to?
[13:30] <ronnie> dulak: just used the top command
[13:30] <domas> dulak: oh, we have all custom packages for our site ;-)
[13:30] <calvino> stever, thats a known bug of sudo
[13:30] <domas> dulak: but here I'm deploying my private server :)
[13:30] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, right above you said "hey everyone. I am having some trouble installing 8.10 into my Hardy system after a kernal update (not to Intrepid)" I have no clue what you are trying to do b/c 8.10 is INTREPID
[13:30] <schoft> hey anyone fimilair with airodump
[13:30] <jjdiamond> is there an app for network file sharing?
[13:30] <domas> dulak: anyway, there's no good tool telling how much memory does stuff like apache use
[13:30] <cambridgecow> stever, looking around on the forums its looks like most people have been able to fix this problem by doing a clean re-install
[13:30] <schoft> yes, jjdiamond, try konqueror
[13:31] <cloud-ieee> Cambridge, I found this....apt-get install gnome-core
[13:31] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, and then i send another message clearing that up, saying 8.10 for the ATi driver
[13:31] <jjdiamond> schoft thanks.
[13:31] <stever> re-install what? gedit?
[13:31] <domas> dulak: so I have no idea how you could get the 'leaner' thing ;-)
[13:31] <angryuser> join #bash
[13:31] <cloud-ieee> I think this is what I need. Thank you for your assistance!
[13:31] <schoft> Uhm, anyone familiar with airodump ?
[13:31] <schoft> i can't get it to work
[13:31] <jjdiamond> schoft, konqueror is a web browser, no?
[13:31] <schoft> no,
[13:32] <cambridgecow> stever, which luckily only takes about 30 minutes, plus if you have a /home partition you won't lose your data
[13:32] <schoft> file sharing for linux & windows
[13:32] <Kottizen> hello
[13:32] <Kottizen> ubuntu is very nice
[13:32] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, so you want to install the ATI driver in hardy right?
[13:32] <schoft> o wait its a webbrowser aswell
[13:32] <schoft> hehe
[13:32] <cambridgecow> ubottu you are the man!
[13:32] <Kottizen> vad gör alla här inne?
[13:33] <Kottizen> kan någon svara?
[13:33] <ronnie> Kottizen: english plz
[13:33] <jjdiamond> schoft, i don't think i have a K desktop environment.  or do i.....
[13:33] <Kottizen> Ronnie: OK.
[13:33] <Kottizen> Bye :)
[13:33] <cambridgecow> Kottizen, what is your native language
[13:33] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, yes. I know ATi driver 8.10 has a GUI install and used that but I get an error. I also tried building the deb but I get an error.
[13:33] <dulak> domas: VSZ is code+stack+data, and RSS is simply resident in ram right?
[13:33] <schoft> you can get the program by typing this: sudo apt-get install konqueror
[13:33] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, have you tried envy?
[13:33] <Kottizen> cambridgecow: Swedish
[13:33] <cambridgecow> !swedish
[13:34] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, envy?
[13:34] <cambridgecow> !envyng
[13:34] <stever> ok, i will read the guider carefully
[13:34] <cambridgecow> !envy
[13:34] <Kottizen> Ubottu: Can you speak Swedish?
[13:34] <jjdiamond> schoft, i use the add/remove applications manager
[13:34] <LjL> !se | Kottizen
[13:34] <dulak> domas: VSZ gets a big reduction, RSS gets a much smaller reduction
[13:34] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, you can use EnvyNG to install the driver for you
[13:34] <Kottizen> OK. Bye.
[13:34] <stever> besides can i user RTX under ubuntu?
[13:35] <dulak> domas: I have gone from being able to run 300 apache processes to closer to 400 simply stripping binaries on a heavily loaded client's server
[13:35] <domas> dulak: all of those RSS pages are shared...
[13:35] <ronnie> !rtx
[13:35] <stever> use RTX
[13:35] <nevans> question about a version number: 1.3.0~RC1really1.2.0-2ubuntu3 ... what does that mean?  is it 1.3 or 1.2?  :)
[13:35] <cambridgecow> stever, what is rtx?
[13:35] <nevans> that's from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/rubygems ... I'm just looking into certain packages before I upgrade.
[13:35] <stever> because our company use rtx insides
[13:35] <ronnie> can somebody tell me what is rtx
[13:35] <stever> tecent rtx
[13:35] <domas> dulak: simply the fact that you are running 400 apache processes tells something bad about you :(
[13:36] <jrib> nevans: try #ubuntu-motu
[13:36] <nevans> jrib: thanks.  will do.
[13:36] <dulak> domas: as opposed to running what on a web server?
[13:36] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, will it install the ATi drivers or the generic one?
[13:36] <cambridgecow> nevans, that means it is version 1.3.0-RC1really1.2.0-2
[13:36] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, it will install the LATEST ATI drivers
[13:36] <domas> dulak: proper apache?! :)
[13:36] <cambridgecow> nevans, that means it is version 1.3.0-RC1really1.2.0
[13:37] <dulak> domas: proper apache?
[13:37] <domas> dulak: see, you allocate lots of memory in all other places to idle
[13:37] <nevans> cambridgecow, yeah... but what upstream version does that correspond to?
[13:37] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, I will give it a try and see what I get.
[13:37] <cambridgecow> 1.3.0-RC1really1.2.0
[13:37] <Tobbytus> anyone know if those 3G stuff mentioned in 8.10 release notes. Will I be able to use it with on my kubuntu since it's the same thing or is it for gnome?
[13:37] <domas> dulak: well, reduce blocking. major issue with apache is blocking when writing to user
[13:37] <cambridgecow> the -2ubuntu3 is what is added by the packager
[13:37] <domas> dulak: lingerd + big kernel write queues help a lot
[13:37] <cambridgecow> so check out 1.3.0-RC1
[13:38] <domas> dulak: lots of big sites set maxclients to 50 or so
[13:38] <cambridgecow> Tobbytus, the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the Window Manager, the core code is the same, so you will be able to use 3G with Kubuntu if you can use it with Ubuntu, but the GUI will be different
[13:38] <jarussi> ok ... i'll change my question, can anyone help me do a dual-boot?
[13:38] <cambridgecow> !dualboot
[13:38] <dulak> domas: lingerd looks nifty
[13:38] <jarussi> tkz! =)
[13:38] <domas> dulak: of course, it is possible to use squid/etc for client-side serving
[13:38] <cambridgecow> !google
[13:38] <Info73> Erm... I've no idea what to search for. Use !google keyword(s)!
[13:38] <Tobbytus> cambridgecow, how will the gui be diffrent? will it just look uglyer? or?
[13:39] <cambridgecow> Tobbytus, Kubuntu is KDE and ubuntu is Gnome
[13:39] <Tobbytus> ok, Thanks for the answer:)
[13:39] <cambridgecow> Tobbytus, I've never used Kubuntu and "Uglier" is a matter of opinion, if you're asking for mine then yes KDE is uglier then gnome
[13:39] <domas> dulak: if you have brave soul, you can set nolinger sockopt inside apache ;-)
[13:40] <domas> thats most efficient :)
[13:40] <domas> just broken clients may be more broken
[13:40] <dulak> domas: lingerd looks like it will make a huge difference, I never heard of it
[13:40] <iyk_iri> has anyone used asterisks on ubuntu
[13:40] <redwhitewaldo>  hi, folks. i can't submit a bug report for "skype" under ubunu ditrubution. it says "There is no package name 'skype' published in Ubuntu"
[13:40] <iyk_iri> ?
[13:40] <zylche> Question: If I install the 8.10 RC, will it update itself to the official release when possible or will it stay with (possibly) outdated code within?
[13:40] <domas> dulak: don't forget to increase write queue, default is tiny :)
[13:40] <stever> no RTX?
[13:40] <domas> dulak: anyway, in any proper performance model, symbols is 0.000001% of cost
[13:40] <jrib> redwhitewaldo: because there isn't a skype package in the ubuntu repositories
[13:41] <domas> dulak: though, if you have them, you can resolve all 99.99999% costs better
[13:41] <schoft> airodump Unsupported hardware link type 803  << anyone familiar with this error
[13:41] <redwhitewaldo> jrib: so what can i do if i think i've found a bug with skype's relationship wiht ubuntu?
[13:41] <geev> hellow friends am looking for you help i installed my usb network card twe444ub using ndiswrapper but it does not to the access point what is help you have
[13:41] <joaopinto> redwhitewaldo, what is exactly the bug ?
[13:42] <neo_chan> I have a question about ubuntu 8.10
[13:42] <redwhitewaldo> joaopinto: terminal says "segmentation fault"
[13:42] <jrib> redwhitewaldo: "skype's relationship"?  what does that mean?  If it's a bug in the package, file it against the place you got the package from (medibuntu)?  If it's a bug with skype, file a bug with skype
[13:42] <geev> hellow friends am looking for you help i installed my usb network card twe444ub using ndiswrapper but it does not associate to the access point what is help you have
[13:42] <neo_chan>  I would like to know 'apt-get update and upgrade'  to 8.10 from 8.04, Can I?
[13:42] <dulak> domas: what are the write queues you are talking about?  a sysctl setting?
[13:42] <jrib> !upgrade > neo_chan
[13:43] <domas> dulak: net.ipv4.tcp_wmem and net.core.wmem_max
[13:43] <redwhitewaldo> jrib: well, by "skype's relationship with ubuntu", i mean that perhaps the problem only arises on ubuntu computers
[13:43] <neo_chan> thank you for jrib. I will look at that.
[13:43] <joaopinto> redwhitewaldo, that is a skype *only* problem you need to report it to the skype company, not to ubuntu
[13:43] <redwhitewaldo> joaopinto: i see.
[13:45] <dulak> domas: thanks for the info, you just made my job so much easier on at least 3 clients
[13:45] <jadams__> I can't log in to my X session because once compiz starts it goes white.  I'd like to disable compiz from starting with X.  How can I do that?  Failsafe GNOME works just fine.
[13:45] <powlr93> Hello?
[13:45] <domas> now you will be able to run 500 apache children! :)
[13:45] <redwhitewaldo> if i install a package that is "static", does that mean that the program is more likely to work? what does "static" mean? Is it preferred to get static packages?
[13:45] <aboSamoor> where can I find a channel for ns2 ?
[13:45] <domas> dulak: there're more tricks around. like kernel-level connection filters, etc
[13:45] <jadams__> I think it's because I just started using Direct Rendering maybe?
[13:45] <cambridgecow>  what is the difference between ssh user@hostname -X  and  ssh user@hostname -Y
[13:46] <domas> cambridgecow: one is -X and other is -Y
[13:46] <frogscott> can someone help me fix video and audio everytime I run a vid in mozilla it closes
[13:46] <powlr93> 안녕하세요?
[13:46] <LjL> !ko | powlr93
[13:46] <cambridgecow> domas, thanks that very helpful....
[13:46] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: it's preferred to get Ubuntu .deb packages from the official repositories
[13:46] <cloud-ieee> I did this command: apt-get install gnome-core, and I am still in text mode. Someone please help me get into gui mode?? :(
[13:47] <dulak> domas: lingerd will make the biggest difference there I think, enough so we can cut back on apache processes and extend the server life, I have been pushing for a new beefier server but this should fix it right up
[13:47] <powlr93> Is it easy to hack ubuntu?
[13:47] <redwhitewaldo> Ljl, yes  i usually do. but one program i need is not in official repos.
[13:47] <LjL> cloud-ieee: gnome-core doesn't install X. why don't you just install "ubuntu-desktop"?
[13:47] <frogscott> powlr93, no it is not easy at all
[13:47] <domas> dulak: you can get more performance with apache2.2 or lighttpd and fastcgi processes too
[13:47] <cambridgecow> does anybody know what the REAL difference between -X and -Y in ssh are?
[13:47] <jrib> powlr93: sure, apt-get source PACKAGE, hack away
[13:47] <domas> dulak: if thats your problem :)
[13:47] <cloud-ieee> LjL, okay I will try that. :)
[13:48] <domas> dulak: we have hundreds of servers with MaxClients 50 here ;-)
[13:48] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: well, a static binary simply means that all (or at least most) of the required libraries are built right into the binary itself. so yes, that will make it more likely to work generally speaking (and also less cooperating with the rest of the system, sometimes)
[13:48] <frogscott> jrib, lol
[13:48] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, well it isn't completely up to date. ATi released 8-10,envy only shows 8-6
[13:48] <dulak> domas: it's just an over loaded box and they won't spring for a second one to distribute the load
[13:49] <domas> dulak: overloaded as in cpu overloaded?
[13:49] <redwhitewaldo> LjL do you think a static deb will fix a "segmentation fault" problem when i use a non-static deb?
[13:49] <opken_> Àú±â¿ä?
[13:49] <cloud-ieee> LjL, ran: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in terminal. Installing now. Thx!
[13:49] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: a static *deb*?
[13:50] <frogscott> can someone help me fix video and audio everytime I run a vid in mozilla it closes
[13:50] <dulak> domas: no cpu is good, it's ram, constantly full, constantly swapping
[13:50] <domas> hehe
[13:50] <domas> hehehe
[13:50] <domas> sadĄ
[13:50] <domas> !
[13:50] <redwhitewaldo> LjL yes, skype-static VS skype
[13:50] <FloodBot1> domas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <domas> sorry! :)
[13:51] <cloud-ieee> At least the bots ask nicely before booting you :p
[13:51] <domas> dulak: slide#13 at http://dammit.lt/tech/velocity-wikipedia-domas-2008.pdf (titled: "don't overload" :)
[13:51] <frogscott> bots dont ask anything
[13:51] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: i suggest you try the Skype from medibuntu instead, if you haven't
[13:51] <domas> cloud-ieee: I think the bot sucks! my both 'hehe' and 'hehehe' had lots and lots of insight in there :)
[13:51] <LjL> !medibuntu | redwhitewaldo
[13:51] <cloud-ieee> bwehehehehe
[13:51] <ashmeetsingh> hey I installed grub in the wrong partition and the file system is now corrupt in that how to rebuild it and uninstall the grub
[13:51] <dulak> domas: I can't force a client to pay for hardware, but it's what I recommend everytime they call me out
[13:52] <redwhitewaldo> LjL i've tried the skype from medibuntu to no avail. Does medibuntu have a static skype?
[13:52] <tparcina> I can't access my_ip_addr:631 CUPS web interface. How to trouble shoot the problem?
[13:52] <dulak> domas: anyway, thanks much for the info, I'm gonna do some reading
[13:52] <ziroday> tparcina: is cups running?
[13:52] <tparcina> ziroday: how to check that?
[13:52] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: yes, it does
[13:52] <LjL> !skype | redwhitewaldo, other alternatives here
[13:53] <ziroday> tparcina: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys status
[13:53] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: anyway yes, a static build is likely to fix the segmentation fault
[13:53] <tparcina> ziroday: it's not running :(
[13:53] <tparcina> root@cisco13:/home/tomo# /etc/init.d/cupsys status
[13:53] <tparcina> Status of Common Unix Printing System: cupsd is not running.
[13:53] <ziroday> tparcina: then you can start it with, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[13:53] <LjL> !pm | ashmeetsingh
[13:53] <Shanix_> hi all, if I have a program that is taking 100% of CPU usage, what kind of debug program/step that I can use to find out what it's doing?
[13:54] <ziroday> Shanix: what program?
[13:54] <LjL> Shanix_: i fear that if the program wasn't compiled with debug symbols, any debugger won't give very meaningful output
[13:54] <cambridgecow> Shanix, what is it?
[13:54] <Shanix_> ziroday, it's a cluster program call fenced
[13:54] <cambridgecow> Shanix, have you tried running the program from the command line?
[13:54] <Shanix_> LjL, and it is not compiled with debug symbol
[13:55] <domas> damn, takes ages to rebuild php5 packages
[13:55] <ziroday> Shanix: you could possibly use strace to see where is gets up to, but I am really not to sure
[13:55] <Shanix_> cambridgecow, it is run the command line
[13:55] <domas> ah, I guess all the tests add up
[13:55] <cambridgecow> Shanix, if there isn't an output to the command line then your stuck up creek
[13:55] <Shanix_> ziroday, done that, but doesn't really tell me anything
[13:55] <Shanix_> um,,,
[13:55] <frogscott> Hi, my video and audio are closing mozilla everytime it runs a video
[13:56] <LjL> Shanix_: i really can't think of anything useful unless you can recompile the program with debug/profile information