[11:33] <ricanelite> for some reason i cannot get amarok running right, i just installed Kubuntu and when i installed amarok it opens very slow and runs slow
[11:33] <ricanelite> i just removed it, should i restart my pc and then try to install it amarok again?
[11:33] <Stevethepirate> ricanelite: you ever used Amarok before?
[11:34] <ricanelite> no
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> Hmm.
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> When you say "runs slow" what you mean?
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> Like when you try play a song?
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> Or in general?
[11:34] <ricanelite> well just opening up
[11:35] <ricanelite> well yeah in general
[11:35] <ricanelite> like now it crashed and took forever to close it up
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> How much RAM you got?
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> And CPU?
[11:35] <ricanelite> 2 gig of ram
[11:35] <ricanelite> dual core pentium 2.0ghz
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> Hmm. I have similar
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> but 4 gigs ram, and 2.4 ghz CPU :P
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> um. okay.
[11:36] <ricanelite> yeah i will upgrading my ram in the next few weeks
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> rm -rf ~/.amarok
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get remove amarok
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> Go into it.
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> See again.
[11:36] <Kohlrabi> actually amarok doesn't need 4 gigs :)
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> No, seriously, shame that i bought the extra 3 gigs -just- for amarok
[11:37] <grandi> it doesn't?
[11:37] <atwo1> oi
[11:37] <atwo1> my res is screwed
[11:37] <atwo1> its on native res
[11:37] <atwo1> and the left side is squished over by abnuot 200 px
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> Kohlrabi: its quite obvious. I've used amarok on my 64 meg RAM p2...
[11:37] <Kohlrabi> yeah
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> atwo1: adjust the screen
[11:37] <atwo1> LOL
[11:37] <atwo1> that doesnt work man
[11:37] <atwo1> SRSLY
[11:37] <atwo1> its some drive fk up
[11:38] <Stevethepirate> or, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:38] <Kohlrabi> Stevethepirate: I wasn't the one going to upgrade his RAM :P
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> I was just asking
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> I've had people asking why their PC runs slow
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> and its like 256 meg /ram
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> ugh
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> OK :)
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> running like apache servers, tinyproxy, and liek 100 services
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> still, you could use amrok just fine, if you confi..
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> yeah, OK :)
[11:41] <grandi> well my firefox runs slow
[11:41] <grandi> i think some update messed someting up
[11:47] <dansko> Hi
[11:47] <dansko> can someone help me?
[11:47] <luke_> with what?
[11:47] <dansko> i got a problem
[11:47] <dansko> i used opensuse first
[11:47] <Tw|sT> Atleast it's just firefox running slow, and not a distribution upgrade gone wrong...  A few weeks ago, I came in from work exhausted, not thinking, and ran the Kubuntu Dist. upgrade via synaptic... it worked... at first... but 1/3 way thru the upgrade, it bricked!  I ended up having to backup everything I could via tarballing the directories, and had to reinstall... so I upgraded that way instead
[11:47] <dansko> but i tried kubuntu now
[11:48] <dansko> but the problem is, theres a lot diffrent from opensuse
[11:48] <dansko> i want to install programs like compiz fusion and the themes and stuff
[11:48] <luke_> right
[11:48] <dansko> but i can only install compiz manager
[11:48] <luke_> you use apt
[11:48] <luke_> or adept manager
[11:48] <dansko> ye i tried
[11:48] <dansko> but theres a lot less software then opensuse
[11:48] <Tw|sT> have you installed synaptic
[11:48] <dansko> or can i add repositories?
[11:48] <luke_> yes you can
[11:49] <luke_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <Tw|sT> 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[11:49] <luke_> add repos to that
[11:49] <dansko> oke where can i find a list with all repositories?
[11:49] <luke_> I don't think there is one :)
[11:49] <luke_> there is one for Compiz Fusion
[11:49] <dansko> lolz, where i find the repos then?
[11:49] <dansko> yes but i want community repos
[11:49] <dansko> with lots of craps :P
[11:49] <Tw|sT> search google: Kubuntu Apt repos
[11:50] <dansko> oki
[11:50] <dansko> ty
[11:50] <Tw|sT> ;)
[11:50] <Tw|sT> np
[11:50] <luke_> and enable universe and multiverse repos in sources.list
[11:50] <Tw|sT> absolutely
[11:51] <dansko> sorry, im not familiar with text mode and console
[11:51] <dansko> u just used windowmanager
[11:51] <Tw|sT> you'd like synaptic, alot , I think.  it's totally graphical
[11:51] <luke_> That's Gnome isn't it?
[11:51] <dansko> i dont know, i just use kde
[11:51] <luke_> use Adept Manager
[11:51] <Tw|sT> it works regardless
[11:51] <luke_> :)
[11:52] <dansko> can i ask you something
[11:52] <luke_> I don't like Gnome
[11:52] <luke_> yes
[11:52] <dansko> me neither
[11:52] <Tw|sT> I don't either
[11:52] <Tw|sT> sure
[11:52] <dansko> is kubuntu really the most popular distro?
[11:52] <dansko> and user friendly?
[11:52] <luke_> yes
[11:52] <dansko> lolz oke
[11:52] <luke_> It has been for me anyway :)
[11:52] <dansko> i think i REALLY REALLY REALLY need to get used to kubuntu
[11:52] <dansko> cuz im like holy crap wtf is this
[11:52] <Tw|sT> last I remember, it was... but check http://distrowatch.com
[11:52] <dansko> ok, i used opensuse before, and i liked it alot
[11:52] <luke_> hehe
[11:52] <dansko> lots of software and stuff
[11:53] <johann787> I found out how to enable the root account in the server version Its rather simple and should be documented
[11:53] <dansko> yes i used that
[11:53] <luke_> I don't really like SuSE
[11:53] <dansko> why not?:)
[11:53] <johann787> boot the cd again and choose rescue
[11:53] <ardchoille> johann787: They don't want it documented
[11:53] <johann787> ask for a command shell and change the password for root
[11:53] <luke_> It's really confusing
[11:53] <Tw|sT> personally, and I've used many distros, Kubuntu has been the most friendly distro I've used since 1997
[11:53] <dansko> why's that?
[11:54] <ardchoille> johann787: Please don't post that here, it's neither recommended nor necessary
[11:54] <dansko> ok, well i like kubuntu alot especially its very fast i think
[11:54] <johann787> If I´m setting up a server I want to enebla the root acount , but if im setting up a desktop machine the sudo is fine
[11:54] <dansko> but i need to get used to all the functions
[11:54] <luke_> indeed
[11:54] <ardchoille> johann787: That's fine for your server, but we should follow recommended and supported procedure when advising others.
[11:54] <dansko> do you think there's more software available to (k)ubuntu than for SuseA?
[11:55] <dansko> -a
[11:55] <johann787> Well you need to know about the sudo BUG in the 7.10, I´m unable to do a sudo when I´m finished installing
[11:55] <Tw|sT> best bet... if you want root active, don't use Kubuntu, or Ubuntu... use Debian 4.0r1 instead.  It's more designed for hackers/programmers
[11:55] <luke_> dansko: there is the same ammount
[11:55] <Tw|sT> have you tried using 'sudu su' ?
[11:55] <dansko> ohyeah, its universal aint it?
[11:55] <Tw|sT> yup
[11:56] <dansko> so if i want to use repos from suse i can use them on kubu?
[11:56] <dansko> for exampl
[11:56] <Tw|sT> negative
[11:56] <dansko> e
[11:56] <dansko> i thought so
[11:56] <Tw|sT> the packages are compiled differently
[11:56] <luke_> you can use alien
[11:56] <luke_> but it doesn't always work
[11:56] <Tw|sT> suse uses RPMs, like Fedora/RHEL
[11:56] <ardchoille> Use of alien is also not recommended.
[11:56] <dansko> ok
[11:56] <ardchoille> !alien
[11:56] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:57] <Tw|sT> Kubuntu uses DEB packages, like debian
[11:57] <dansko> aha ok :)
[11:57] <luke_> you can always complie it
[11:57] <dansko> yes but i think compiling is a risk
[11:57] <Tw|sT> now, you *can* use Debian packages natively
[11:57] <dansko> i dont even know what it means exactly ;p
[11:57] <Kohlrabi> dansko: why?
[11:57] <Kohlrabi> It just takes ages
[11:57] <dansko> cuz last time u needed to enable xgl
[11:58] <Kohlrabi> When you need to compile every app
[11:58] <luke_> I think not
[11:58] <Tw|sT> I've had no probs compiling from source, other than getting the dev environment together in the first place...
[11:58] <dansko> i used this command: gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and i forgot one -
[11:58] <dansko> my pc wouldnt boot anymore :P thats only a command
[11:58] <Tw|sT> the problem was that there is no meta-package for it
[11:58] <dansko> when i try to compile amsn the computer trips like hell
[11:58] <Tw|sT> so, ya gotta know what you need.
[11:58] <Kohlrabi> dansko: maybe just x wasn't starting?
[11:58] <dansko> i dont know, im a newbie to linu
[11:58] <dansko> x
[11:59] <Kohlrabi> ok :)
[11:59] <dansko> :p
[11:59] <dansko> ima find some repos
[11:59] <dansko> ty for help :)
[11:59] <luke_> :)
[11:59] <Tw|sT> that's one area where I've found that Fedora's package system was better thought out... but, all distros are constantly improving, and I expect that that will be remedied soon enough... ppl just have to request it and it'll eventually happen
[12:02] <Tw|sT> but, that said, I sucessfully installed a good dev environment, enough to compile UnrealIRCD, espernet IRC services, and bopm onto a Athlon 64 3000+ running Kubuntu 7.10-x64
[12:02] <Tw|sT> it's been running flawlessly now for about 6 weeks on that installation.
[12:04] <Tw|sT> though, I *do* have one complaint... but it's with another vendor... UltraVNC should be ported to Linux.  I say that because it's got the best security model of any VNC server that I've used since VNC arrived on the scene
[12:04] <Kohlrabi> the good thing is that you can "apt-get build-dep" for packages which are present in apt
[12:04] <Kohlrabi> I didn't knew that a while back, gave me headaches compiling mplayer-SVN :)
[12:05]  * Tw|sT works on his Linux & Windows Servers remotely, most of the time, using Xming to make a XDCMP connection to the Xserver itself.
[12:05] <Tw|sT> (rather, uses UltraVNC for windows servers, and Xming for Linux)
[12:08] <Tw|sT> Synaptic, which is a front end for apt, has that option (build-dep).  It also has an option that auto adds recommended packages as if they were deps.  This is really handy.
[12:10] <Tw|sT> btw, synaptic is multi platform.  I started using it on Red Hat 8.0-psyche, and have used it on every distro since.  On a few of them, I did have to add repos (found them via a google search), but overall it's been the best package manager that I've found
[12:11] <Kohlrabi> wasn't synaptic the GNOME-pendant to adept? :)
[12:12] <ardchoille> Kohlrabi: most gnome apps can run quite well in kde and vice-versa
[12:12] <Tw|sT> I'm not sure that it's gnome dependent, but then again, I always install support for gnome apps.  Thing is, I do that only so that I can run gnome apps within KDE
[12:12] <atwo1> wtf just happened
[12:12] <Tw|sT> right
[12:12] <ardchoille> atwo1: Please watch your language in this channel.   After Synaptic is installed, I install the two meta packages 'KDE' & 'gnome'.  This installs all the base packages for both environments.  From there, you can install anything else you need with a much higher level of success of it working.
[12:18] <Mez> atwo, don't make me ban you here too
[12:18] <atwo> Mez: leave me alone please i'm working on this issue, thx
[12:18] <Mez> atwo, then stop making personal attacks against members of the community
[12:18] <atwo> i'm not making personal anythnig on anyone im trying to talk to jay oh en
[12:18] <atwo> you're just hassling me
[12:19] <atwo> and im not even talking to u in here
[12:19] <atwo> Jay-Oh-En: any idea?
[12:19] <atwo> on what to change to make it work
[12:19] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: yes
[12:19] <atwo> it's on native res atm
[12:19] <atwo> but it pushes the left side over
[12:19] <dansko> hi im back again
[12:19] <atwo> for some odd reason
[12:19] <crush_groove> Tw|sT, / what are meta packages ?
[12:19] <Tw|sT> I have an idea... use a query chat.
[12:19] <Mez> atwo, I believe calling me a tosser is consdered an attack
[12:19] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: ill edit your xorg
[12:19] <dansko> twist can you help me again for a sec?
[12:19] <Tw|sT> crush_groove: meta-packages are compound packages that link to several subpackages.
[12:20] <Tw|sT> basically, they install suites of applications
[12:20]  * Tw|sT is about out of time... and has to get ready for work
[12:20] <atwo> Jay-Oh-En: ok
[12:20] <Tw|sT> dansko: I'll send you my email address, and will help out as possible as time allows.
[12:21] <dansko> ok that would be great
[12:21] <kubu> question.. the universe repo is not included on the dvd right? only main and restricted?
[12:21] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: ok i edited it
[12:21] <Jay-Oh-En> http://pastebin.com/m27ff289b
[12:22] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: or just go to system settings
[12:22] <Tw|sT> dansko : see PM.
[12:22] <Jay-Oh-En> monitor and display atwo
[12:23] <atwo> how do i copy it all
[12:23]  * Tw|sT splits to get ready for work
[12:23] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: then set it there
[12:23] <E_mE> ive backed up my home directory to a new drive under /usr/home .. i will be reinstalling kubuntu from afresh onto / and then linking my /home to /usr/home after reinstall.. should all my app configurations remain as before?
[12:23] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: join #mychannel
[12:23] <dansko> can anybody help me?
[12:24] <kubu> hmm.. have i gotten it right? b|cos if i use the dvd only and add universe to it. it wount work, so for using universe you have to use an online repo right?
[12:24] <dansko> i tried to install packages, but when i do its says that it cant connect, cant find source for packages or that when it installs packages it could be that it screws up system...?
[12:26] <crush_groove> sudo apt-get gnome? << will install meta package?
[12:26] <dani_> hi
[12:26] <crush_groove> hello dani
[12:28] <ardchoille> crush_groove: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:28] <atwo> !resolution
[12:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:50] <Ressu^> Suomalaisia ? :F
[12:53] <mib_> i'm searchin for the command to configure my xorg in use of a dialog
[12:54] <mib_> can somebody help me
[12:54] <Riddell> mib_: displayconfig
[12:54] <Riddell> or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <ardchoille> mib_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:55] <mib_> i'll try thx
[12:55] <crush_groove>  does that command replace original config from the primary package .. or is that a way to edit the xconfig file ?
[12:57] <mib_> now what is the newer drv, th "nv" or the "nvidia", or are they the same (have a geforce 4400 ti)
[12:57] <ardchoille> crush_groove: It edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <ardchoille> mib_: You should use the nv (2d) driver unless you have manually installed the nvidia (3d) driver
[12:57] <crush_groove> ty ardchoille  .. just sittin here watchin and learning .. so my questions are kinda random
[12:57] <ruxpin> will kde4 be available for 7.10 release?
[12:58] <ardchoille> crush_groove: Good job, that's how  ilearned so much :)
[12:58] <mib_> have installed it already nvidia-glx-drivers
[12:58] <crush_groove> ruxpin kde4 will be released in jan
[12:58] <mib_> did an tut for this
[12:58] <ardchoille> ruxpin: 7.10 has already been released.
[12:58] <crush_groove> "supossedly"
[12:58] <crush_groove>  7.10 is released based on gnome
[12:58] <crush_groove>  kde is released based on kde
[12:59] <ardchoille> mib_: Then you can use the nvidia driver
[13:06] <apothus> l
[13:07] <apothus> Hi i am looking to transfer a stack of files, from an ubuntu install to windows yet i cannot get write permissions to the external drive i want to use, any ideas?
[13:08] <maarten> is the external drive ntfs formatted?
[13:08] <apothus> yeah :(
[13:08] <maarten> ok, and do you use the 'new' ntfs-3g driver?
[13:08] <apothus> i dont think so
[13:09] <maarten> hm, you need ntfs-3g to write to ntfs partition, the old driver only supports reading
[13:10] <apothus> ok great, thanks
[13:10] <apothus> ill give it a try
[13:11] <maarten> ok, you can install tne hte ntfs-3g package for the driver and the ntfs-config package to configure your system to use it
[13:11] <maarten> (you have to run ntfs-config and you can check which driver to use i believe)
[13:12] <apothus> ok
[13:12] <maarten> Now i have a question: about KDE4 RC2 build for hardy. Launchpad hasn't build the amd64 version yet and I see some errors in the buildlog for it because of dependancy problems. Does anyone know when the amd64 version will be succesfully build?
[13:13] <onishidato> hey
[13:13] <onishidato> can we scan Window XP virus from Kubuntu?
[13:13] <maarten> @noishidato: yes you can with clam-av
[13:14] <maarten> that is an opensource virusscanner
[13:14] <onishidato> maarten: can you say again th name?
[13:14] <crush_groove>  does linux need an av ? .. or anykind of exploit watch<> program ? or is it fairly safe if its a single user machine with no porn surfin and dlin .. haha
[13:14] <elisiano> clamav
[13:14] <maarten> onishidato: the name is actually clamav (withouth the dash)
[13:15] <maarten> onishidato: you can use klamav as kde frontend if necessary
[13:16] <onishidato> you know
[13:16] <maarten> crhush_groove: it depends on your usage but as workstation usually not. As a server you could use a firewall etc
[13:16] <onishidato> my window has virus
[13:16] <onishidato> but i can't get in to fix it
[13:16] <onishidato> so
[13:16] <mib> i have several problems with my graphic settings, fist i can´t start "nvidia-settings"
[13:16] <crush_groove>  ty maarten
[13:16] <onishidato> i have to use Kubuntu to fix it outside
[13:16] <mib> (nvidia-settings:5454): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:17] <maarten> onishidato: If your windows is really infected i would try to save my files with kubuntu (scan them with clamav to be sure they don't have any viruses) and back them up. next reinstall your windows ;)
[13:18] <dreamcoder> still cant get frostwire to work grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:18] <onishidato> maarten: yeah
[13:18] <onishidato> maarten: i'm trying to do that, thanks :)
[13:19] <onishidato> !clamav
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <mib> @all: can somebody help me, wann start nvidia setting but it wont > (nvidia-settings:5454): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:19] <ruxpin> ardchoille: so? :)
[13:20] <ruxpin> ardchoille: I asked if it will be available for 7.10
[13:20] <mib> also nvidia-glx-enable seems to work but theres no change in the xorg.conf then
[13:20] <ardchoille> ruxpin: 7.10 was released back in October
[13:20] <ruxpin> ardchoille: and is updated frequently, no?
[13:20] <mib> nvidia-glx-config enable of course
[13:21] <ardchoille> ruxpin: I'm not up on kde4, I don't use it. But I have seen the rc updates available in the repos
[13:21] <ruxpin> ardchoille: yeah, that's what the kubuntu web site says .. I just wonder if it'll be officially supported
[13:21] <ardchoille> mib: Try this in a terminal: kdesu nvidia-settings
[13:22] <ardchoille> ruxpin: I'm not sure
[13:23] <mib> adchoille: ok that works thx, but what is about the nvidia-glx-config enable > what does it do?
[13:23] <mib> or what should it do
[13:23] <ardchoille> mib: I'm not sure what that command does exactly
[13:24] <mib> ardchoille: k
[13:25] <maarten> mib: it should switch the driver from nv to nvidia in your xorg.conf
[13:27] <dreamcoder> anyone know how to get kubuntu to work
[13:27] <dreamcoder> sorry
[13:27] <dreamcoder> anyone know how to get *frostwire* to work
[13:27] <crush_groove>  I ran the "tail -f /var/log/syslog" command just to see what it got me .. and I have like a TON of ips hitting my machine .. with nothing running .. any idea ?
[13:28] <cheguevara> dreamcoder, should just work
[13:28] <mib> maarten: k thanks, i read that it should add several option for section modules in xorg.conf but it didn´t do anything, so the nvidia setting was already set manually, nevermind, i do my setting with the nvidia-setting
[13:28] <cheguevara> whats the problem
[13:28] <dreamcoder> it shows in the taskbar then just closes
[13:28] <dreamcoder> i changed which java i was using but to no avail
[13:29] <cheguevara> gutsy>
[13:29] <cheguevara> *gutsy?
[13:29] <dreamcoder> yer gutsy
[13:29] <cheguevara> hmmm should work fine
[13:29] <cheguevara> tried running it from terminal?
[13:29] <dreamcoder> i will now one sex
[13:29] <dreamcoder> sec*
[13:29] <Voyage_> my firewall "firestarter" sys tray icon auto disappears, and i have to run it manually again every time. why.. ? how can i stop it?
[13:29] <cheguevara> :p
[13:30] <dreamcoder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48202/
[13:31] <bazhang> Voyage_: firestarter is merely a front end for iptables; once you set it, you don't need to leave it in the menu bar, like norton or pc-cillin
[13:31] <crush_groove> Voyage_,  .. open firestarter/edit/preferences/minimize to systray'
[13:31] <crush_groove> Voyage_,  IF you just want to see it
[13:31] <crush_groove> bazhang,  is correct
[13:32] <bazhang> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm Voyage_ read that please
[13:35] <Voyage_> crush_groove i have already enabled that option. but despite that. it auto disappears. i wan to see it all the time.  eg. to see alerts (play goes red) when a network intrusion is done.
[13:36] <dreamcoder> any clue?
[13:38] <crush_groove> Voyage_,  firestarter is woefully inadequate for seeing a network intrusion ...  if you just want to watch ips bounce off . its good  any1 who is good enough to intrude your nw is certainly good enough to get around fs.. if you have enabled BOTH the boxes in preferences id google it . cuz mine works fine on gutsy and on fiesty
[13:39] <Voyage_> how will i know for any intrussion has done... any even if i dont need to see the icon. why ... does it auto disappears..?
[13:42] <Voyage_> i want to see the icon changed to red when intrusion occurs. and i can see the blocked ip port in "events"
[13:42] <mohammad> Hello, How can I add all packages of Debian Etch DVD to Kubuntu Software Sources?
[13:44] <mohammad> crush_groove: ?
[13:44] <Lynoure> mohammad: it's not adviced for... But some packages will install fine.
[13:45] <bazhang> mohammad: why would you want to?
[13:46] <mohammad> Lynoure: Why? Kubuntu is debian-based and I think Debian packages should work properly in kubuntu, should they?
[13:47] <mohammad> bazhang: I have 3 DVD of debian and they have many packages, so I want to add them to my resources
[13:47] <bazhang> mohammad: what packages?
[13:47] <ardchoille> mohammad: Yes, kubuntu is debian-based, but there have been many modifications.. and I have seen people mess their systems by mixing distro packages.
[13:47] <Lynoure> mohammad: debian-based and debian are two slightly different things. The versions of software differ, and you might end up with a mess of debian and kubuntu that no-one wants to help you with
[13:48] <Lynoure> If you are capable of helping yourself, and find the risk of breakage worth it - or just interesting - go for it.
[13:50] <mohammad> bazhang: ardchoille: Lynoure: u mean there are special packages (for example Eclipse) for Debian and Kubuntu separately?
[13:50] <ardchoille> mohammad: yes, this is why there are debian repos and ubuntu repos.
[13:51] <bazhang> mohammad: you can search at packages.ubuntu.com; you can also add a firefox plugin to search from your google search window
[13:52] <bazhang> mohammad: alternately, you can open up konsole and type apt-cache search packagename and see if it is in there
[13:52] <mohammad> bazhang:  ardchoille: Oops, I have downloaded 4 un-useful DVDs? :((
[13:52] <ardchoille> mohammad: Useful if you plan to run debian :)
[13:52] <bazhang> mohammad: only if you don't want to run debia
[13:52] <bazhang> n
[13:53] <crush_groove> ardchoille,  is part of the trick to successfully getting a larger package selection to make yourself aware of alternate repositorys ? or is thier a main base that will load to your apt-get and thats it ..?
[13:54] <mohammad> bazhang: ardchoille: Unfotunatelly I dont remeber who told me to download these DVDs to add to Kubuntu repos, so I cant kill him :D
[13:55] <ardchoille> crush_groove: I always stick with the official repositories and add medibuntu. In doing this I have found that everything I need is in the repos. It does little good to add millions of repos if the packages are able to break things.
[13:56] <crush_groove> nodz ., thats what I have . ty
[13:56] <ardchoille> crush_groove: If you're running Gutsy, then all of the good repos shold be enabled by default.
[13:56] <mohammad> bazhang: ardchoille: thx
[13:56] <crush_groove> yessir
[13:56] <ardchoille> yw
[13:56] <bazhang> mohammad: no worries :}
[14:00] <rian> I've got a machine that has a network connection that at random times stalls for a random length of time
[14:01] <rian> I can start a ping and let it run and after X amount of time it pauses and then happily continues.. but in the time that it's pausing the machine is completely unavailable on the network
[14:05] <bazhang> rian: you can stop the ping; control c should do it
[14:06] <rian> well yes, but that's not the problem
[14:07] <crush_groove> sudo update && upgrade? <<< is that right
[14:07] <crush_groove> sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[14:07] <rian> bazhang: my network stalls, the ping is just a way of showing it
[14:07] <rian> crush_groove:
[14:07] <crush_groove> ?
[14:07] <rian> crush_groove: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:08] <rian> hit enter too fast ;)
[14:08] <crush_groove> drats
[14:08] <crush_groove>  ty rian
[14:08] <rian> np
[14:08] <crush_groove>  so with && you still need full path always ?
[14:09] <rian> for as far as I know, yeah
[14:09] <crush_groove> ko
[14:10] <rian> I don't often use &&, if I need to do more than one command I just hit enter first :p
[14:10] <crush_groove>  can you unpack that for me rian ?>
[14:10] <crush_groove>  if I hit eneter first I can run multiple commands with no switch ?
[14:11] <crush_groove> rian .. nm
[14:11] <crush_groove>  I gotcha
[14:11] <rian> heh, no. sorry.  I meant I don't often need to switch or pipe
[14:12] <crush_groove>  Im over here hittin enter again and again
[14:12] <crush_groove>  hahahahaha
[14:12] <crush_groove>  duh
[14:12] <rian> I wish I could figure out whats wrong with my other machine >_<  this network stall thing is really annoying
[14:14] <mikkael> is there a log file created by aptitude ?
[14:16] <neville> Do any of you good people know if it is possible to pick up what comes through S-Video or the Composite connectors in a TV tuner card in Kaffeine?
[14:16] <dreamcoder> i aint starting a row but i only want one OS so does anyone know of a way to use firmware toolbox 4.6 on kubuntu? if any one knows what that is
[14:17] <rian> neville: I'd say it's possible if the tv card is properly installed it should show up as an input device, or no?
[14:18] <rian> dreamcoder: no idea, never heard of it :)
[14:18] <dreamcoder> xbox 360 firmware tool
[14:18] <dreamcoder> it require .net framework to run
[14:19] <neville> It's detected fine by Kaffeine, and as the correct hardware
[14:19] <rian> dreamcoder: well, it might.. depending on which part of the .NET code it needs
[14:19] <rian> neville: but it's not showing output (or input, I guess)
[14:19] <neville> But no options to change input
[14:20] <neville> Yeah, pretty much
[14:21] <rian> neville: have you tried other apps? XawTV maybe? Just to test
[14:21] <neville> It also fails to find any television channels, which I've been attributing to a piddly antennae
[14:21] <neville> Nope, thanks for the idea though
[14:22] <rian> give XawTV a shot to see if you can capture the input there.. if not I'd probably look at the driver
[14:22] <Teixen> fdg
[14:23] <neville> Okay, thanks for the info
[14:23] <Dizzm> hey
[14:23] <rian> hello Dizzm
[14:24] <crush_groove> Im getting a random error in amarok "/lib/security/pam_securetty.sorok/" what is this
[14:24] <crush_groove> nm dont answer that .. imma try to find it
[14:25] <Dizzm> im trying to set up a CS: S dedicated server, except for the desktop enviroment (KDE/Gnome) any difference on preformance ??
[14:25] <Dizzm> of ubuntu and kubuntu
[14:25] <rian> besides the desktop they are the same
[14:26] <Dizzm> desktop doesn't make one have better preformance then the other ?
[14:26] <rian> underneath Ubuntu and Kubuntu (and all the other buntus) are exactly the same
[14:26] <frindou> hello room
[14:26] <Dizzm> alight thanks
[14:26] <rian> hello frindou
[14:26] <frindou> how are you rian
[14:27] <rian> anyone know what could be the reason for kubuntu to stall it's network connection?
[14:27] <I3ooI3oo> is there a setting to delay the input of keystrokes.  cause this morning i can't type on my laptop i feel asleep with it on the bed and pressed some keys too much... I know it't a setting since after a reboot p untill login the keyboard function correctly
[14:27] <rian> I'm good, thanks :)
[14:27] <BrianV> Hi all
[14:27] <rian> I3ooI3oo: try looking for 'slow keys' in keyboard settings
[14:27] <BrianV> I am playing with the KDE4-RC2 install
[14:28] <BrianV> however, whenever I try to launch a KDE4 session, it gives me an error about having to setgid, then sends me back to kdm
[14:28] <frindou> any one help me for compiz
[14:28] <I3ooI3oo> If i hold the keys down for 2 sec it types.
[14:28] <rian> no idea BrianV, I'd guess there are actually support rooms for KDE4
[14:29] <I3ooI3oo> I can't find slow keys in keyboard settings
[14:29] <rian> I3ooI3oo: are you using KDE?
[14:29] <I3ooI3oo> yes
[14:29] <BrianV> rian: could you direct me to a kde4 support room?
[14:29] <rian> I3ooI3oo: lookin', I had this problem a while ago
[14:29] <rian> BrianV: I can google it for you :)
[14:29] <BrianV> I can google it myself
[14:29] <BrianV> however, a brief search brought up no hits
[14:30] <rian> I3ooI3oo: I was wrong, it's in regional & accessibility >> keyboard filters
[14:30] <rian> BrianV: hm
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> ok i think i have it
[14:31] <rian> de #kde4-devel, BrianV
[14:31] <rian> de = try
[14:31] <rian> no guarantees.. they might not be into giving support
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> thanks rian I found it while googleing slow keys
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> i knew it had to be something
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> thanks again
[14:31] <rian> I3ooI3oo: np
[14:32] <BrianV> rian: lol. I was told to leave there and ask here
[14:32] <BrianV> I'll try #kde
[14:32] <rian> BrianV: haha
[14:32] <rian> BrianV: good idea, sorry :)
[14:32] <BrianV> although my issues I think may have something to do with kubuntu
[14:32] <rian> possibly
[14:33] <crush_groove>  I am getting  "/lib/security/pam_securetty.sorok " error from amarok ..what is this ?
[14:33] <crush_groove>  googled it and got nada
[14:34] <rian> crush_groove: is it spelled like that?
[14:34] <rian> crush_groove: it looks like a typoed "pam_security.sock"
[14:34] <ubuntu> HI everybody
[14:35] <rian> hello ubuntu
[14:35] <crush_groove> rian yes
[14:35] <crush_groove>  Ill google other way ?
[14:35] <rian> crush_groove: what's the error say?
[14:35] <crush_groove> exactly that rian
[14:36] <crush_groove>  I cp-ed
[14:36] <crush_groove> wait
[14:36] <rian> nothing else? just that?
[14:36] <crush_groove> yea
[14:36] <crush_groove> 1 sec
[14:36] <rian> :)
[14:37] <crush_groove> the collection scanner was unable to process these files :/lib/security/pam_securetty.sorok/
[14:37] <grul> http://youtube.com/watch?v=RoLV_IkcIQk
[14:38] <I3ooI3oo> that was just a pain in the arse,  try unlocking a PC with slow keys active 10 digit password with upper/lowers/and symbols
[14:39] <rian> I3ooI3oo: I purchased a new keyboard because I thought my keyboard was busted
[14:39] <I3ooI3oo> damn
[14:39] <rian> crush_groove: amarok is indexing your computer and probably didn't have access to that file, I'd uncheck the /lib folder in the preferences for collection scanning
[14:40] <rian> I3ooI3oo: then after hooking it up that one had the same problem.. I hit the keyboard with two hands flat and appearantly pressed shift for about 8 seconds or so and had a 'slow keys setting' window popup
[14:42] <crush_groove> nodz
[14:43] <crush_groove>  is "snort" a good tool for the single user that doesnt have any other boxes ?
[14:44] <JohnFlux> I ran a game that changed my resolution and the game crashed
[14:44] <JohnFlux> so now I'm stuck in 600x480
[14:44] <JohnFlux> how can I change the resolution? :)
[14:44] <rian> JohnFlux: ctr+alt+backspace
[14:44] <rian> beware, you're logging in again
[14:44] <JohnFlux> without killing X :-D
[14:44] <rian> hehe
[14:45] <crush_groove> chuckles
[14:45] <rian> try the settings?
[14:46] <JohnFlux> I was thinking I should be able to do it with xrandr
[14:46] <JohnFlux> but I can't seem to get it to work
[14:46] <JohnFlux> xrandr -s 0    does nothing
[14:46] <rian> my own issue just got even cooler.. I just tried a sdl live cd and then my network connection is fine, but when I boot back into kubuntu it starts stalling and pausing again, hrm
[14:48] <rian> JohnFlux: try using -o instead of -s?
[14:48] <JohnFlux> rian: still nothing hmm
[14:49] <JohnFlux> doing, say, xrandr -s 1280x1024   just does nothing
[14:49] <JohnFlux> i'm stuck in 640x480  strange
[14:50] <rian> LjL is giving people an early christmas it seems, heh
[14:50] <rian> JohnFlux: I'd say you're stuck booting X or the machine as a whole
[14:50] <JohnFlux> yeah i think so too
[14:57] <zvezdichko> how could I shedule a file system check for my next system load?
[14:58] <matflasch> hi
[14:59] <matflasch> i've got a problem: when I want wo manage my package lists in adept, the background color of this dialog is black and the buttons are not labeled or the color is equal to the button color. how could I fix this problem?
[14:59] <rian> zvezdichko: no idea, sorry
[15:00] <rian> matflasch: is this only in adept?
[15:00] <matflasch> I've got this problem in pokerth6 too, this is a sdl app
[15:01] <rian> but other dialogs are fine/
[15:01] <matflasch> yes, rest is very fine
[15:02] <rian> hm, right click the titlebar of adept
[15:02] <rian> maybe check the theme in "configure window behaviour.."
[15:05] <matflasch> I installed last night, the problem was from the beginning, tried to fix it, but no chance... theme is plastik (default)
[15:05] <matflasch> other themes have this problem too
[15:11] <matflasch> this is a screenshot: http://matflasch.sytes.net/sshot.png
[15:12] <matflasch> everything works fine, but the "source dialog" is black
[15:12] <rian> sorry, back.. was someone at the door
[15:12] <matflasch> :)
[15:14] <rian> I have no idea.. it's really weird because the other dialogs do get drawn properly
[15:14] <LjL> Software Sources is Qt4
[15:14] <LjL> so it's different from other dialogs
[15:14] <rian> adept isn't writen in qt4 as a whole?
[15:14] <LjL> no
[15:15] <LjL> adept is a plain KDE application
[15:15] <dansko> hi
[15:15] <dansko> i need help
[15:15] <rian> dansko: whats up?
[15:15] <dansko> when i try to login as root it says verification error, but when i edit system settings in my own account its no problem i use same password
[15:15] <matflasch> could not understand, why only this dialog and the pokerth app are like this
[15:16] <dansko> i dont get it really
[15:16] <rian> LjL: then have him reinstall qt4 maybe?
[15:16] <LjL> rian, doubt that will do anything
[15:16] <rian> does qt4 use themes?
[15:17] <rian> dansko: where and how are you trying to login as root?
[15:17] <LjL> rian, it certainly can, but i think it should just use the default style in a normal Gutsy installation
[15:17] <dansko> i try to login as root
[15:17] <dansko> but it doesnt work
[15:17] <dansko> and when i use su
[15:17] <LjL> perhaps it's something in ~/.qt, but i'm not sure where to look
[15:17] <dansko> it says verification error
[15:17] <LjL> !root > dansko    (dansko, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:18] <dansko> tyvm
[15:18] <rian> is there a qt4 room maybe?
[15:18] <dansko> so there actually is no root?
[15:18] <LjL> dansko: the root account is locked. use sudo, it works fine.
[15:19] <dansko> sudo is the same as root but then only from another account huh? ok i will try that, thanks alot :)
[15:19] <LjL> rian, maybe, but this is certainly an ubuntu specific problem, this is the correct channel really...
[15:19] <robotpoke> what's the command line command to reconfigure postfix?  dpkg-configure ...
[15:19] <robotpoke> something like that?
[15:19] <dansko> i already like kubuntu better than suse now :D
[15:19] <LjL> sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[15:20] <robotpoke> cool, thank LjL
[15:20] <sigma_kubuntu> has anyone gotten the nvidia tv out working with the glx repo drivers here?
[15:20] <LjL> !tv out
[15:20] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[15:20] <emilsedgh> !kde4 -> siavash
[15:20] <sigma_kubuntu> dansko: suse is hopeless!
[15:21] <bazhang> heehee
[15:21] <dansko> lolz, i like it actually but i think kubuntu rox it :D
[15:21] <Jyzygzel-> how do i do a distribution update?
[15:21] <Jyzygzel-> from 7.04 to the newest
[15:21] <jpatrick> !upgrade | Jyzygzel-
[15:21] <ubotu> Jyzygzel-: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:21] <rian> matflasch: I can't find anything on your problem
[15:21] <Jyzygzel-> i read those
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:22] <Jyzygzel-> they were wrong
[15:22] <sigma_kubuntu> LjL: tried that. didnt quite work. how come switching the display in the nvidia control panel doesn't work
[15:22] <Jyzygzel-> "Not all updates can be installed"
[15:22] <rian> Would there be any reason why my kubuntu installation lags/pauses/stalls my network connection?
[15:22] <Jyzygzel-> "Run a partial upgrtade, to install as many updates as possbile"
[15:22] <emilsedgh> !KDE4
[15:22] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[15:22] <matflasch> rian: I'll try to reinstall some things or try a new user to fix it, I'll tell, if I find the problem, thanks =)
[15:22] <rian> thanks matflasch :)
[15:23] <emilsedgh> !KDE4 -> Siavash
[15:23] <LjL> !bot > emilsedgh    (emilsedgh, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:24] <matflasch> see you later ^^
[15:24] <emilsedgh> LjL: I know, thanks :)
[15:24] <Jyzygzel-> looks like the commadnline tool works
[15:24] <LjL> !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[15:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[15:24] <emilsedgh> LjL: i just didnt know its case sensetive
[15:24] <LjL> emilsedgh: it isn't
[15:26] <emilsedgh> LjL: when i asked it to tell about kde4 to siavash, it said that knows nothing about kde4, maybe i did someting wrong, sorry for that :)
[15:26] <LjL> emilsedgh: "->" is not ">"
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, run a sudo apt-get update and watch the speed. Maybe your repos are very busy.
[15:26] <Jyzygzel-> lol is that ur solution
[15:27] <Jyzygzel-> the GUI didn't work but console updrage works
[15:27] <BluesKaj> not a solution , but it could tell when not to upgrade :)
[15:28] <bazhang> Jyzygzel-: yeah, adept is not my favorite either : the cli is so much easier as well
[15:28] <Jyzygzel-> indeed
[15:28] <BluesKaj> I had the same problem here in Canada during the first week that 7.10 was released ,net upgrade failed 3 times
[15:29] <Jyzygzel-> i've upgraded already 2000 packets today
[15:29] <BluesKaj> gave up on adept and did a clean disk install
[15:29] <Jyzygzel-> 1300 more to go
[15:29] <Jyzygzel-> from 6 to the newest ;)
[15:29] <BluesKaj> well, good luck then
[15:30] <Jyzygzel-> but atleast the download is fast
[15:30] <Jyzygzel-> 1MB/s
[15:34] <rian> alright, I'm heading out again, later folks
[15:34] <SatManUK> can you recomend a stock control program for ubuntu there is nothing in package manager afaik
[15:37] <jpatrick> SatManUK: kmymoney2 prehaps?
[15:38] <dreamcoder> is it possible to install .net framwork on kubuntu and then use a program which depends on .net?
[15:38] <dreamcoder> using wine etc
[15:38] <LjL> dreamcoder, there is a free implementation of .NET called Mono
[15:38] <LjL> i don't really know if it can run .NET applications out of the box
[15:38] <LjL> but just FYI
[15:39] <dreamcoder> thanks
[15:41] <SatManUK> i was thinking kmymoney or gnucash
[15:42] <Jyzygzel-> wtf
[15:43] <bazhang> bye rian
[15:43] <Jyzygzel-> the ubuntu upgrade stopped
[15:43] <Jyzygzel-> it said Failed Failed Failed
[15:43] <Jyzygzel-> and now its stuck
[15:44] <Jyzygzel-> the internet stopped wrking :o
[15:45] <I3ooI3oo> the whole internet or just your internet connection
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> internet connection
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> why is this
[15:45] <BluesKaj> SatManUK, do you mean an inventory control app to keep track of stock on shelves and in storage etc ?
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> wwhy would it drop
[15:45] <I3ooI3oo> i would assume different computer then the one you are on
[15:45] <SatManUK> yes
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> i didnt do anything
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, cuz the adept upgrader sucks
[15:46] <SatManUK> i mean initially i don't plan to have that much stock but its good to get something into place now
[15:46] <I3ooI3oo> yum ftw
[15:46] <SatManUK> im putting the business plan together for a new business and i want to include all this into my research
[15:47] <Jyzygzel-> and now i bet when i ctrl -c
[15:47] <BluesKaj> kmymoney is a financial
[15:47] <BluesKaj> It operates similar
[15:47] <BluesKaj> to MS-Money and Quicken,
[15:47] <Jyzygzel-> it removes everything
[15:47] <Jyzygzel-> and starts over
[15:47] <BluesKaj> opps sorry
[15:48]  * genii puts on a new pot of coffee
[15:48] <SatManUK> i have used kmymoney and gnucash
[15:48] <BluesKaj> SatManUK, I've heard od a stock control app used in some large markets called ELVIS , (don't ask what acronym stands for :)
[15:49] <Jyzygzel-> jesus christ its stupid
[15:49] <matflasch> I'm back :)
[15:49] <Jyzygzel-> i had to start it all over again
[15:49] <BluesKaj> but the elvis i see here is just a text editor of some kind
[15:50] <matflasch> I just move my home-dir and created a new one, now I have to reconfigure my apps, but everything works fine now. the error could be in .kde/* or .qt/* or something, couldn't locate it exactly
[15:51] <SatManUK> i found squirrel pos
[15:51] <SatManUK> but its for restraunts
[15:51] <SatManUK> dunno if it could be adapted or not
[15:52] <BluesKaj> SatManUK, the apps on google-linux all cost money
[15:52] <SatManUK> yeah
[15:53] <SatManUK> im looking on sourceforge atm
[15:53] <SatManUK> is it hard to convert a rpm to deb?
[15:53] <SatManUK> maybe i will look on rpm find
[15:54] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[15:54] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:54] <snarkster> good morning all
[15:55] <SatManUK> package alien?
[15:55] <snarkster> brb
[15:55] <SatManUK> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mariposa/
[15:56] <snarkster> so i installed kde4 rc2 live cd the other day and its been kinda an uphill battle. :)
[15:56] <snarkster> but its working and is very pretty.
[15:57] <SatManUK> i couldn't get kdm/kde4 to even load so..
[15:57] <SatManUK> i had to remove it - it broke package management
[15:59] <dreamcoder> so tMono the .net application.. i am just wondering wether i would be able to run a application in wine and make wine use that program
[15:59] <Jyzygzel-> isn't NTFS-3G safe?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> snarkster, congrats , you are one of the few who had a successful kde4 install ...I tried 2wice , kept breaking , stalling , freezing , dumped it :)
[16:01] <snarkster> BluesKaj: I started playing with some setting and my screen went white.. been a fight ever since.
[16:02] <snarkster> with out root access I cant use synaptic.. and since kde4 doent have a user manager im kinda stuck. Im sure I can do it through console but not sure how.
[16:03] <dreamcoder> whats the best version of ubuntu?
[16:04] <genii> !best
[16:04] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[16:04] <dreamcoder> ok thats fair enough
[16:05] <trappist> if that question could be answered objectively, there would only be one version
[16:05] <genii> It's up for debate, 7.10 has many unresolved issues. 7.04 seems stablest at this tiem
[16:05] <BluesKaj> snarkster, can't you login to kde3 ?
[16:05] <genii> Then there are the Hoary diehards
[16:05] <trappist> oh version like release?
[16:05] <snarkster> no Im fully into kde4..
[16:06] <snarkster> of course I understood that Id be in bleeding edge and have issues
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ahh, not a side by side install
[16:06] <salman> http://www.theatremp3.net/Types.php?type=1
[16:07] <SatManUK> this program is only 25k
[16:07] <SatManUK> it can't be finished at that size..
[16:07] <snarkster> BluesKaj: Nope. crazy aint it
[16:08] <crush[A]> 7.10 is workin gr8 for me
[16:08] <crush[A]> not 1 issue .. even with invidea drivers
[16:08] <salman> http://www.theatremp3.net/Types.php?type=1
[16:09] <onishidato> hey guys
[16:09] <onishidato> how can i log in another computer
[16:09] <onishidato> using ssh localhost?
[16:09] <snarkster> ssh -Y user@host
[16:09] <onishidato> is there another way?
[16:10] <onishidato> my friend using window
[16:10] <snarkster> vnc
[16:10] <onishidato> vnc?
[16:10] <snarkster> or tsclient
[16:10] <Jyzygzel-> where can i start samba
[16:10] <jussio1> !vnc
[16:10] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[16:10] <casey_> wait try krdc
[16:10] <TameLion> onishidato use putt
[16:10] <onishidato> !krdc
[16:10] <Jyzygzel-> where can i start samba
[16:11] <snarkster> krdc is great.. needs some tihngs installed
[16:11] <casey_> krdc needs krfb i believe
[16:11] <snarkster> rdesktop
[16:11] <onishidato> ok
[16:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <casey_> ~rdesktop
[16:12] <casey_> !redesktop
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <casey_> !rdesktop
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <jussio1> !info krdc
[16:12] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 976 kB
[16:12] <casey_> go look in the package manager
[16:12] <casey_> its there
[16:12] <jussio1> !botabuse > casey_
[16:13] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: you can start samba from a cli.  sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[16:13] <romunov> has Dolphin got "sort by extention"?
[16:13] <Jyzygzel-> NIIICEEE
[16:13] <crookshanks> !botabuse > crookshanks
[16:14] <Jyzygzel-> the upgrade
[16:14] <Jyzygzel-> it broke my APT
[16:14] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: sudo dpkg --configura -a
[16:15] <Jyzygzel-> sub[t]rnl a shitloads of text
[16:15] <Jyzygzel-> i mean A LOOT
[16:15] <jussio1> !language
[16:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:15] <Jyzygzel-> the kind that says "reinstall"
[16:15] <amber_> hello
[16:15] <sub[t]rnl> !hi | amber_
[16:15] <ubotu> amber_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:16] <Jyzygzel-> http://pastebin.com/m502310a2
[16:16] <Jyzygzel-> try recover from that
[16:16] <Jyzygzel-> hah
[16:16] <salman> Meri dua hai tum naik seerat ho ...... Tera dil teri tarhan khoobsurat ho ......... Mil jaye har cheez tujhay dua say
[16:16] <salman> phele...... khud dua ko tere hathoon ki zaroorat ho ...
[16:16] <amber_> hi what???
[16:16] <salman> amber this is for you
[16:16] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: try sud apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update
[16:17] <sub[t]rnl> sud/sudo
[16:17] <jussi01> salman: please keep it to english in here
[16:17] <Jyzygzel-> oh ok :D
[16:18] <onishidato> salman: what does it mean?
[16:18] <salman> plz tell how can i No such nick\channel
[16:18] <Jyzygzel-> sub[t]rnl now its done
[16:18] <salman> means tell
[16:18] <salman> me
[16:18] <salman> plz
[16:18] <Jyzygzel-> am i now 7.10?
[16:18] <Jyzygzel-> how do i know if i am?
[16:18] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: lsb_release -a
[16:19] <onishidato> version
[16:19] <Jyzygzel-> it says im Ubuntu 7.04 but that should change after reboot?
[16:19] <jpatrick> Jyzygzel-: yep
[16:19] <sub[t]rnl> should have changed now
[16:19] <sub[t]rnl> or is it after reboot?
[16:19] <saame> hi
[16:20] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:20] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: just to be sure
[16:20] <Jyzygzel-> ok
[16:22] <Jyzygzel-> sub[t]rnl there is still lot to be done
[16:22] <Jyzygzel-> Need to get 0B/879MB of archives.
[16:22] <ShawnRisk> I am having trouble with GUI, using 7.10, I can't get into the GUI right now.  I have these errors: error: Fatal server error: no screens found.  XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.    Error: Unable to locate/open config file, Error: Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0), Error: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory,
[16:22] <ShawnRisk> any ideas?
[16:22] <SatManUK> funny you should be talking about .net
[16:22] <SatManUK> i just found something called eCity that runs on .net
[16:23] <sub[t]rnl> ShawnRisk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:23] <sub[t]rnl> ShawnRisk: sounds like you need to generate a working xorg.conf
[16:23] <ShawnRisk> :P
[16:24] <savetheWorld> Hi, for 7.10 is there a tool I can run directly to configure X? (X is not currently working)
[16:24] <I3ooI3oo> when trying to configure a src I am told that c compiler can not create executables
[16:24] <saame> aMeri dua hai tum naik seerat ho ...... Tera dil teri tarhan khoobsurat ho ......... Mil jaye har cheez tujhay dua say
[16:24] <saame> phele...... khud dua ko tere hathoon ki zaroorat ho ...
[16:24] <sub[t]rnl> savetheWorld: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:24] <jussi01> saame: English please.
[16:25] <Dr_willis> I3ooI3oo,  you instaleld the 'build-essential' package yet?
[16:25] <SatManUK> saame which language?
[16:25] <savetheWorld> ShawnRisk: got that ? ^^^^^^^^
[16:25] <ShawnRisk> yep
[16:25] <savetheWorld> ShawnRisk: let me know if it works. :-)
[16:25] <I3ooI3oo> i doubt it
[16:25] <ShawnRisk> okay
[16:26] <I3ooI3oo> looking now
[16:26] <Dr_willis> To reconfiguire X -->  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:26] <Dr_willis> I3ooI3oo,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:27] <crush[A]> -phigh?
[16:27] <crush[A]> wassat?
[16:27] <ShawnRisk> I tried that, and now I get errors still
[16:27] <sub[t]rnl> -phigh generates the high end resolutions, it wont prompt you for the rest of the configuration
[16:27] <I3ooI3oo> thats what i was looking for
[16:27] <crush[A]> ty sub[t]rnl
[16:27] <saame> i don;t know english
[16:27] <jussi01> saame: which language?
[16:28] <I3ooI3oo> Dr_willis installing now thanks couldn't find it when looking through adept-installer
[16:28] <I3ooI3oo> damn it wants the install cd
[16:29] <ShawnRisk> Error: Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0), Error: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory, Warning: VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xc0000000, 0x1000000), Error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable  Ideas?
[16:29] <I3ooI3oo> can i make it dl the files?
[16:29] <saame> this is hindi
[16:29] <jussi01> I3ooI3oo: just remove the cd from your source
[16:29] <I3ooI3oo> ko thanks
[16:30] <msemtd> um, I'm in a bit of a fix trying to upgrade a kubuntu feisty to gutsy - my Xclient was killed and the update seems to be stuck doing something
[16:32] <msemtd> htop reports /usr/bin/python /tmp/kde-root/adept_updatera2WqFa.tmp-extract/dist-upgra...
[16:32] <ShawnRisk> anyone know how to fix the errors I have?
[16:32] <saame> Tum Door Sahi Muj Se
[16:32] <saame> Sapnoo Ma Tu A Jao
[16:32] <saame> Bechain Mere Dil Ko
[16:32] <saame> Pal Bar Behla Jao,
[16:32] <saame> Koi Lamha Nahi Kut Ta
[16:32] <saame> Tujay Sochay Bina Jana
[16:32] <saame> Yadon se Nikal Kar Kabhi
[16:32] <saame> Mere Saamanay A Jao,
[16:32] <saame> Bus Itni Se Khawahish Hai
[16:32] <saame> Nadaan Mere Dil Ki
[16:32] <saame> Phir A Key Chalay Jana
[16:32] <saame> Ek Baar Tu A Jao,
[16:32] <bazhang> oy
[16:32] <saame> Bachaini Si Dharkan Ma
[16:32] <saame> Na Aankhon Ma Neenden Hein
[16:32] <saame> Be Kaif Tabbiyat Ki
[16:32] <saame> Koi Waja Bata Jao.
[16:32] <saame> Jan 16
[16:32] <saame> ASSALAM.O.ALIKUM
[16:32] <saame> H r u?
[16:32] <amed> hola
[16:32] <saame> ALLAH THE MAKER
[16:32] <saame> Everything that we see around us,
[16:32] <saame> Allah made it for us.
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the sky and the land,
[16:32] <amed> como estan amigos
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the sea and the sand.
[16:32] <I3ooI3oo> bye bye
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the plants and the trees,
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the birds and the bees.
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the hills and the rivers,
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the beautiful flowers.
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the sun to give us heat and light,
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the moon to brighten the sky at night.
[16:33] <ShawnRisk> spammer
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the twinkling stars,
[16:33] <saame> Allah made us as we are.
[16:33] <saame> Allah bless u and your family
[16:33] <saame> ALLAH HAFIZ
[16:33] <amed> oigan tengo un problema alguien me puede ayudar?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> how come he made an idiot like you ?
[16:33] <bazhang> !es
[16:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:33] <ShawnRisk> :P
[16:33] <msemtd> This Allah bloke is pretty cool - can he fix my system :)
[16:33] <bazhang> stop saame
[16:33] <SatManUK> !ar
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <jembouge> hey there
[16:33] <amed> como entro a esos canales
[16:33] <SatManUK> !pk
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <jembouge> !es
[16:33] <SatManUK> !ur
[16:33] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".   Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[16:34] <yamal> !ops
[16:34] <saame> Ek Baar Tu A Jao,
[16:34] <saame> Bachaini Si Dharkan Ma
[16:34] <saame> Na Aankhon Ma Neenden Hein
[16:34]  * yamal watches saizai leave
[16:34] <ShawnRisk> Error: Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0), Error: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory, Warning: VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xc0000000, 0x1000000), Error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable  Ideas?
[16:34] <SatManUK> ljl thanks :)
[16:34] <jembouge> isn't this channel supposed to be all English?
[16:35] <SatManUK> it is..
[16:35] <bazhang> yes
[16:35] <jembouge> not according to what I saw when I logged in
[16:35] <jembouge> anyway
[16:35]  * BluesKaj shakes his head ...as if we can understand hindi in here
[16:35] <jembouge> nice to "sse" you :)
[16:35] <ShawnRisk> any ideas?
[16:35] <SatManUK> hindi isn't islam..
[16:36] <SatManUK> hindi would be
[16:36] <SatManUK> erm..
[16:36] <SatManUK> i forgot..
[16:36] <jembouge> from India
[16:36] <jembouge> ?
[16:36] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: the type1 module is font rendering I think
[16:36] <jembouge> any way
[16:36] <amed> tks
[16:36] <I3ooI3oo> there are many indian islamics
[16:36] <BluesKaj> yes SatManUK he said it was hindi
[16:36] <LjL> !ot
[16:36] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:36] <ShawnRisk> msemtd: what do I do to fix this?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> heh
[16:37] <SatManUK> ah
[16:37] <amed> what's up?
[16:37] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: uh, no idea - it seems to be saying that the AIGLX driver can't do direcct rendering of fonts
[16:38] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: perhaps there's some ATI users who've seen the samething
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> weird
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ShawnRisk, did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[16:38] <msemtd> does your X work at all?
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> maybe I have to work in CLI which I like, but would like GUI sometimes
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> I tried
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> It did with 7.07 in recovery mode
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> now in 7.10 not at all
[16:38] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: drop back to an SVGA driver in the meantime
[16:39] <waylandbill> anyone using the fish protocol know if there is a way to increase the timeout before disconnecting from the server?
[16:39] <snarkster> fish protocol?
[16:39] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: might be ok with SVGA - no accelleration but should function unless your ATI card has duff onboard memory
[16:39] <amed> somebody help me
[16:40] <ShawnRisk> there is no SVGA selection
[16:40] <waylandbill> snarkster: fish://  (for secure shell connections)
[16:40] <snarkster> oh
[16:40] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: is that when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[16:40] <ShawnRisk> yep
[16:40] <amed> in spanish i don't have help
[16:41] <backpro> when my kubuntu start kde start automatic i install xfce how to rub it >?
[16:41] <backpro> when my kubuntu start kde start automatic i install xfce how to run it >?
[16:41] <waylandbill> snarkster: I guess you'd call it an ioslave if we wanted to get that technical. :)
[16:41] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: that's the limit of my knowledge! any other driver that looks suitable?
[16:41] <ShawnRisk> nope
[16:41] <ShawnRisk> I need to fix the errors first
[16:41] <snarkster> lets not get to technical..
[16:41] <lg188> HI
[16:41] <amed> hi
[16:41] <snarkster> some of us havent had our coffee. :)
[16:41] <ShawnRisk> I will figure out something
[16:41] <pastulio> how do i disable my kde wallpaper so that it never even loads up at startup? i need to do this so that my compiz wallpaper shows, which is behind the kde wallpaper. someone please help
[16:42] <ShawnRisk> I have more details
[16:42] <ShawnRisk> thanks
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> in spanish
[16:42] <waylandbill> !es
[16:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:42] <amed> no hay nadie ahi
[16:43] <backpro> when i start ubuntu X started automatic how to stop it and start console ?????????
[16:43] <amed> ubotu no hay nadie en esse canal o no responden
[16:43] <crush[A]> pastulio,  maybe panel/settings/background/none
[16:43] <pastulio> ive tried that, it only makes my background black
[16:43] <pastulio> but my compiz wallpaper is still behind it
[16:43] <crush[A]>  nodz
[16:43] <msemtd> backpro: log into a vt with Ctrl-alt-f1 for example then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[16:43] <waylandbill> backpro: /etc/init.d/gdm or /etc/init.d/kdm  ... stop the one on your system and you'll only have the console.
[16:44] <amed> i need help
[16:44] <crush[A]>   pastulio /join #compiz_fusion
[16:44] <crush[A]> very good there
[16:44] <trappist> backpro: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove if you want to stop X from starting at boot
[16:44] <amed> hi somebody
[16:44] <SatManUK> !hi
[16:44] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:44] <amber_> hi everyone who like linux
[16:44] <crush[A]>  trappist  is kdm remove part of that line ?
[16:44] <snarkster> at boot up hit enter to get menu and edit the start by changing the 5 to a 3
[16:44] <SatManUK> !anybody
[16:44] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:44] <trappist> crush[A]: yes
[16:45] <crush[A]> ty btrappist
[16:45] <snarkster> is there away to set root password in a console
[16:45] <snarkster> sudo will not let you do that
[16:45] <trappist> snarkster: yes but it's not recommended
[16:45] <msemtd> re-query: I'm in a bit of a fix trying to upgrade a kubuntu feisty to gutsy - my Xclient was killed and the update seems to be stuck doing something
[16:45] <amber_> root passwords r root
[16:46] <trappist> snarkster: ubuntu ships without a root password for a reason
[16:46] <waylandbill> or modify the /boot/grub/menu.lst entry from 5 to 3 to boot to runlevel 3 by default.
[16:46] <bazhang> amed you need help in spanish?
[16:46] <snarkster> trappist: Thanx, but synaptic is requesting root password
[16:46] <crush[A]> waylandbill,  whats runlevel 3 ? no background ?
[16:46] <trappist> snarkster: how are you running it?  you should be giving it your user password
[16:46] <msemtd> bazhang: amed has left
[16:46] <waylandbill> console only
[16:46] <crush[A]> ty
[16:47] <waylandbill> snarkster: synaptic is probably asking for the sudo password.
[16:47] <snarkster> trappist: by clicking the synaptic icon in the new kde4 menu
[16:47] <bazhang> msemtd: thanks--I have joins and leaves blocked :}
[16:47] <amber_> boungour
[16:47] <ibilic> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.g
[16:47] <ibilic> what does this mean?
[16:47] <trappist> snarkster: oh, I've heard that the kde4 packages have an issue with root/sudo like that.
[16:47] <crush[A]> snarkster,  kde 4 is still unstable ?
[16:47] <trappist> ibilic: bad package in the repo, probably
[16:47] <waylandbill> snarkster: if you must know though... sudo passwd  will assign a root password.
[16:48] <trappist> crush[A]: it's not even released yet!
[16:48] <amber_> hello9
[16:48] <crush[A]> trappist,  snarkster,  has it ..
[16:48] <WaltzingAlong> the sudo password?
[16:48] <ibilic> trappist: I just wanted to install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:48] <WaltzingAlong> waylandbill: ?
[16:48] <amber_> sudo
[16:48] <trappist> crush[A]: it's available, just not released.  it's basically unstable by definition.
[16:49] <msemtd> anyone know the right way to fix a dist-upgrade that's hung?
[16:49] <snarkster> hmm runs fine on my laptop
[16:49] <ibilic> how do I reinstall a package?
[16:49] <snarkster> but understand things will be changing
[16:49] <waylandbill> WaltzingAlong: the user password to give to sudo. I mean not the root password.
[16:49] <trappist> msemtd: hung how?
[16:49] <WaltzingAlong> msemtd: yes. konsole. sudo aptitude -f install; sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[16:49] <trappist> ibilic: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[16:50] <snarkster> nice
[16:50] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[16:50] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | msemtd
[16:50] <ubotu> msemtd: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:50] <snarkster> ive been trying to get ndiswrapper on this thing since I installed kde4 rc2
[16:51] <crush[A]> what is that snarkster  ?
[16:51] <snarkster> ndiswrapper allows you to use windows NIC drivers for hardware without linux support
[16:52] <crush[A]>   why is that important snarkster  if you have a connection ?
[16:52] <snarkster> im on a wire right now.. I want wifi
[16:52] <abdulla> check out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[16:52] <crush[A]>  << sits and reads to learn so my questions are random ..
[16:53] <crush[A]>  ahh gotcha
[16:54] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: hmm, it seems that each time I kill one of the processes locking the database, another takes its place. Maybe that's kicked off the upgrade again
[16:55] <ibilic> what does it mean when it says in Adept manager under Requested in red letters: "BREAK (install)"?
[16:55] <WaltzingAlong> msemtd: is there still the python script running? if so, then yes it would be doing exactly as you describe
[16:55] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: means that something would be installed but a prereq does not exist for it
[16:56] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: yup - it's using 0% cpu so I guess the front-end death hung its IO
[16:56] <bsander> ibilic: it means that some dependencies for the install can't be met. You'll risk "breaking" your system if you continue to perform the installation
[16:56] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: shall kill the python!
[16:56] <bsander> that's worst case, but still.. you'll at least break one or more apps
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: breaking may be a bit of a stretch - depending on the package - more or less that the package will be installed but it or others may not work as expected
[16:57] <waylandbill> ibilic: as WaltzingAlong said..  and most likely an unsupported repository is causing it.
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> if at all
[16:58] <ibilic> i am just trying to install swf-player after the installation of flashplugin-nonfree failed
[16:58] <Voyage_>  the icon of firestarter turns red when an unauthorised access try is made and if it is visible in the tray always. i can observe that.      and any way. why does it disappears. how can i make sure it doest ?
[16:59] <ibilic> would it be a good idea for me to reconfigure my packages using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"?
[16:59] <Dr_willis> ibilic,  that may ask a lot of questions.. but shouldent hurt anything.
[16:59] <Dr_willis> Unles of course you answer wrong. :)
[16:59] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: but still will not take care of the 'broken' you see in adept
[16:59] <ibilic> i've done it yesterday when Adept crashed
[16:59] <ibilic> right
[16:59] <ibilic> so how do I get rid of the broken thing?
[17:00] <ibilic> how do I at least diagnose the problem?
[17:00] <Dr_willis> whats broken?
[17:00] <ibilic> it shows up when I try to install swf-player
[17:00]  * Dr_willis scrolls up.. Wishes there were irc clients that could color code base on who said what. :)
[17:01] <BluesKaj> I was more successful whn went from dapper to edgy by changing the repos to edgy sources then doing the: apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:01] <Dr_willis> Flash has had issues for the l;ast few days due to some issue.. Not sure what the deal is. I thought it had been fixed by now.
[17:01] <bazhang> adobe has a new version out iirc
[17:01] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: nothing, ibilic just asked what adept meant with big read broken
[17:02] <Dr_willis> bazhang,  yea. and somehting with the md5sum got messed up. I dident pay much attention to it all. :)
[17:02] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a    - can take a lot of time. :()
[17:02] <SatManUK> !cab
[17:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:02] <SatManUK> how to extract .cab files?
[17:03] <Dr_willis> !find cab
[17:03] <ubotu> Found: cabber, cabextract, cableswig, ghc6, ghc6-doc (and 18 others)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> thers a tool called cabextract
[17:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> !info  cabextract
[17:03] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[17:04] <ibilic> doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a :(
[17:04] <TuX_Claudiu> ro
[17:04] <Dr_willis> I do recall some of the pages at the !apt factoid having some common problem/fix's for when your packaing system gets confused
[17:04] <Dr_willis> !apt
[17:04] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[17:04] <msemtd> !aptfix
[17:04] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:05] <snarkster> how is someone to know thats what you do to fix apt when it breaks?
[17:06] <snarkster> going for a smoke
[17:06] <BluesKaj> snarkster, see above
[17:06] <msemtd> snarkster: no idea! mibbee we just gotta trust the bot!
[17:06] <snarkster> well yah, but new people will not know what to do..
[17:06] <BluesKaj> msemtd, read the !aptfix above
[17:06] <ibilic> incidentally, when I try to trash something, my trash button has "_: Verb" at the beginning... it's annoying... anyone else?
[17:07] <Dr_willis> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:07] <Dr_willis> fix's a lot of the probklems
[17:07] <SatManUK> thanks for that cabextract worked like a charm Dr_willis
[17:08] <ubuntu_> can any one help me?
[17:08] <unperson> Hi, has anyone here used Mathematica on Kubuntu Gusty?  I'm having some weird display problem where the window becomes garbled if I scroll.  Anyone had this?
[17:08] <jussi01> !ask | ubuntu_
[17:08] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:09] <dobo> how do i type special characters using their unicode values? ALT+ doesn't work for me :(
[17:09] <ubuntu_> when you boot my computer and select linux it says cannot mount selected partition
[17:09] <ubuntu_> how can i fix that problem
[17:10] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  this is on a new install?
[17:10] <ubuntu_> yes its new
[17:10] <ubuntu_> and when i select windows it run but linux doesnt
[17:10] <ubuntu_> it says cannot mount selected partition
[17:11] <Dr_willis> SO you get the grub menu, select linux. it boots a little bit then says that eh?
[17:11] <SatManUK> night all
[17:11] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:11] <ubuntu_> correct
[17:11] <bazhang> night satmanuk
[17:11] <ubuntu_> error comes up cannot mount selected partition
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Sounds like the installer may of gotten confused. what partition is it not being able to mount?
[17:11] <bazhang> error number ubuntu?
[17:12] <unperson> I suspect this problem may be related to the problem with the X Composite Extension, as mentioned here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mathematica#head-f257f6630497b04601075cc9a92b88a26e60e21b
[17:12] <ubuntu_> 27 erorr
[17:12] <Voyage_> is there a way to make sure that a specific app is running all the time. and making it run when its not running in the sys tray?
[17:12] <unperson> But the work around they mentioned (which has worked for me in the past on other Ubuntu systems) doesn't seem to be working here.
[17:12] <unperson> I'm actually running mathematica on a remote machine in this case, though, and forwarding if over ssh.
[17:13] <ubuntu_> so what should i actually do?
[17:13] <unperson> Voyage_: Can you clarify the second part?
[17:14] <bazhang> grub error ubuntu
[17:14] <Voyage_> unperson i want it to be keep runing in sys tray.
[17:14] <bazhang> firestarter Voyage_?
[17:14] <ubuntu_> so theres no way of fixing it in the command box
[17:14] <ubuntu_> i would just have to reinstall linux again?
[17:14] <Voyage_> bazhang - check this. its a bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firestarter/+bug/174249
[17:15] <Voyage_> bazhang yes
[17:15] <unperson> Well, if no one has any idea about that specific error, can anyone tell me the correct way to turn off the composite extention?
[17:15] <msemtd> ok, the !aptfix info hasn't fixed things - I have thousands of packages held back
[17:16] <WaltzingAlong> msemtd: after aptfix, sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade in konsole
[17:16] <snarkster> ubuntu you get error 27 when trying to mount a partition?
[17:16] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:16] <ubuntu_> error 27
[17:16] <ubuntu_> it says annot mount selected partition
[17:16] <snarkster> ubuntu have you tried to repair the partition?
[17:16] <ubuntu_> but i see windows and linux on the slection menu to run which operating system
[17:17] <unperson> Voyage_: Well, if you just want something to restart if it crashes, you could just have a cron job that checks periodically to see if it's running and, if not, restarts it.
[17:17] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu_: so what changed that you now see this?
[17:17] <snarkster> ubuntu fsck -y /dev<partitons name>
[17:17] <ubuntu_> were do i type that
[17:17] <ubuntu_> command box?
[17:17] <Voyage_> unperson yes. how to do it
[17:17] <unperson> Voyage_: Actually, assuming the process actually exits, you could presumably start it with a script that basically restarts the process any time it exits (i.e. in a never-ending loop).
[17:18] <snarkster> ubuntu there are different words for different things, in linux we have konsole, or terminals not command box
[17:18] <Voyage_> unperson yes. how to do it?
[17:18] <Jyzygzel-> hey where was the ATI help for ubuntu?
[17:18] <Jyzygzel-> how to install ATI card
[17:18] <bazhang> for firestarter, it's a waste of cycles--it's just a front end for iptables
[17:18] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: uuh! fingers crossed some grief with lvm2 but I don't use it AFAIK
[17:18] <ubuntu_> okay so how do i know what partition name do i have?
[17:19] <snarkster> ubuntu_:  if you can get to a konsole or command line interface then yes. being that the partition isnt mounted youll have no issues
[17:19] <unperson> Voyage_: Well, the shell script is probably the more elegent option.
[17:19] <ubuntu_> can u tell me what to type cause its my first time
[17:19] <crush[A]>  so firestrater IS NOT an acceptable replacement for IPtables ?
[17:19] <snarkster> ubuntu_: to find the right partition use fdisk -l that will list all your partitions
[17:19] <unperson> Voyage_: My shell scripting is a little rusty.  Give me a minute.
[17:19] <ubuntu_> okay
[17:19] <ubuntu_> i see a list
[17:19] <unperson> (Or someone else is welcome to give it a shot)
[17:19] <ubuntu_> now?
[17:19] <bazhang> crush[A]: just a way to access iptables, not a replacement
[17:20] <Voyage_> k
[17:20] <bazhang> unperson: this is for firestarter; Voyage_ has it confused with norton/symantec/pc-cillin etc
[17:20] <snarkster> ubuntu_:  since Im assumin you are dual booting with windblows choose the ext3 partiton which should be somehting like sda<#> which partitons is ext3
[17:21] <ubuntu_> Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
[17:21] <ubuntu_> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[17:21] <ubuntu_>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[17:21] <ubuntu_>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[17:21] <ubuntu_>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[17:21] <Voyage_> bazhang its a bug....................
[17:21] <ubuntu_> thats what i see
[17:21] <ubuntu_> when i type f disk
[17:21] <Voyage_> bazhang and even its not. it should stay in systray. even if iptables is running.
[17:22] <snarkster> ubuntu_ you should type fdisk -l thats an L not a 1
[17:22] <snarkster> ubuntu_:  in kubuntus case the command will be sudo fdisk-l
[17:22] <bazhang> perhaps Voyage_, but makes no difference what so ever
[17:23] <snarkster> copy that and paste it in the command line interface
[17:23] <snarkster> use shift insert to paste in the CLI
[17:23] <t1n0m3n> I think I am having a config tug of war issue between "nvidia-settings" and the default KDE application.  I am running dual monitors.  Primary is 1440x900.  Secondary is 1680x1050.  I am running two x-servers.  When I am at KDM the resolution is fine.  When I log in, my secondary monitor goes to 640x480.  I have to reset the resolution to 1680x1050 with "nvidia-settings" to get the resolution correct.  Any idea on where to look would be appreciated.  I a
[17:23] <t1n0m3n> X2500M
[17:23] <ubuntu_> sudo fdisk-l
[17:23] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk-l
[17:23] <ubuntu_> sudo: fdisk-l: command not found
[17:23] <snarkster> right
[17:23] <ubuntu_> it says not found
[17:23] <snarkster> hmm interesting
[17:24] <ubuntu_> so its not installed that means?
[17:24] <ubuntu_> or its messed up installation
[17:24] <bazhang> shouldn't there be a space, fdisk -l ?
[17:24] <snarkster> do you have internet plugged into this computer?
[17:24] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:24] <ubuntu_> thats how im on the convo right now
[17:24] <annam> Kaffeine: How to hide information (time) in the left upper corner in player window during playback?
[17:25] <snarkster> right should be a space between fdisk and the -l
[17:25] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk-l
[17:25] <ubuntu_> sudo: fdisk-l: command not found
[17:25] <ubuntu_> sudo: fdisk -l like that?
[17:25] <bazhang> ubuntu_:  that is fdisk -l  not fdisk-l
[17:25] <t1n0m3n> !pastebin
[17:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:26] <snarkster> !fdisk -l
[17:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk -l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:26] <bazhang> annam: in full screen mode?
[17:26] <annam> bazhang: both modes
[17:26] <ubuntu_> okay
[17:26] <ubuntu_> i see it
[17:26] <ubuntu_> now
[17:27] <ubuntu_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[17:27] <t1n0m3n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48235/
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda1   *           1        4855    38997756    7  HPFS/NTFS
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda2            4856       12613    62316135    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda3           12614       14592    15896286    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda5           12426       12613     1510078+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda6            4856       12237    59295852   83  Linux
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda7           12238       12425     1510047   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[17:27] <bazhang> annam: not sure about both, but in full screen just put the mouse away from the edges (like in the center) and it will disappear
[17:27] <bazhang> !paste | ubuntu_
[17:27] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:28] <ubuntu_> !paste
[17:28] <snarkster> ok now that you see the list of partitions.. sudo fsck -y <the linux partition>
[17:29] <snarkster> but it appears that its mounted if your using linux to talk in here.
[17:29] <annam> bazhang: mouse disappeared; time still shown
[17:29] <ubuntu_> well
[17:29] <ubuntu_> i booted linux with cd
[17:30] <bazhang> annam: configure kaffeine lends no clue?
[17:30] <ubuntu_> inorder to use it now
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: Ok, I don't know what your original issue was.  I also don't know how to make an app show up in the dock, but it may be able to be accomplished via a command-line argument.  But if you want to start a process and ensure that it restarts any time it exits, you can use the following, exceedingly simple script:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48238/
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: And now I actually have to run.
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: If you do use that script, then the only way to actually quit the app will be to kill the script.
[17:30] <ubuntu_> snarkster: it says
[17:30] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -y/dev/hda6
[17:30] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: Hope that helps.  Later.
[17:31] <Voyage_> thanks!
[17:31] <snarkster> right think of fsck as scandisk for windows
[17:31] <annam> bazhang: no
[17:32] <bazhang> annam:  ask in #kaffeine
[17:33] <annam> bazhang: thanks for your help seeya
[17:33] <bazhang> bye annam
[17:34] <crush[A]>  youtube keeps crashing on me in konquerer do we have a pastebin ?
[17:35] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | crush[A]
[17:35] <ubotu> crush[A]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:35] <ubuntu_> a man my computer turned off over heated :S
[17:35] <Jyzygzel-> what THE ....
[17:35] <ubuntu_> so i had to boot from the cd again
[17:35] <Jyzygzel-> oh sudo
[17:36] <crush[A]> never used a patebin .. whats my syntax ..?
[17:36] <crush[A]>  paste
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> crush[A]: don't worry about the syntax
[17:36] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[17:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:36] <Dr_willis> :) just cut/paste and go for it!
[17:36] <Dr_willis> I need to find a pastebin script to make getting stuff easier
[17:37] <snarkster> pastebin is a website that you paste large quantities of data in then yu paste the website and article nukber here so we can all go look at it.
[17:37] <Dr_willis> somebigcommand | pastebin
[17:37] <Dr_willis> would be handy
[17:37] <crush[A]> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48240/ << paste on backtrace for youtube crash
[17:37] <Dr_willis> of course if its flash crashing.. well theres not a lot we can do about it.
 im sorry can we continue
[17:38] <snarkster> yah sure i guess..
[17:38] <BluesKaj> crush[A],  you can try installing flashplugin-nonfree, then open konq /configure konq/ plugins/scan for new plugins
[17:38] <snarkster> where did we stop
[17:39] <ubuntu_> well im so sorry i had to open konsole
[17:39] <ubuntu_> again
[17:39] <ubuntu_> and i typed in fdisk -l
[17:39] <crush[A]> BluesKaj,  I did that .,., from medibuntu
[17:39] <crush[A]>  wait
[17:39] <crush[A]> where is kong ?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> konqueror
[17:39] <crush[A]> ack
[17:40] <bazhang> crush[A]: konqueror has issues with flash at times--firefox is much better atm
[17:41] <BluesKaj> bazhang, dunno why ,perhaps my flashplugin-nonfree is the older version that works
[17:41] <bazhang> BluesKaj: that might be it :}
[17:41] <snarkster> ubuntu_: so then run fsck -y partition> "without the brackets"
[17:42] <ubuntu_> how do i get the partition listings again
[17:42] <ubuntu_> sudo fdisk -l
[17:42] <snarkster> yes
[17:42] <bazhang> yes
[17:43] <crush[A]> bazhang .. is that just in 7.10 ?
[17:43] <snarkster> cd /home
[17:43] <crush[A]>  was workin in 7.04
[17:44] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fsck -y/dev/hda6
[17:44] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:44] <bazhang> crush[A]: I think it may be the recent trouble with flash for everyone
[17:44] <BluesKaj> well, BBL..gotta push some snow ...cool but beauty day here today...fresh air is on the menu   : )
[17:44] <ubuntu_> i says that now
[17:44] <crush[A]> nodz ./. ty bazhang .. I think I heard that sumwhere else too
[17:44] <crush[A]> completely 4got about it and upgraded my flash
[17:44] <crush[A]>  doH
[17:44] <crush[A]>  be well BluesKaj  ty
[17:45] <bazhang> crush[A]: just a guess, so take with a huge grain of salt :}
[17:45] <snarkster> ubuntu_ need spaces between the command and the partition
[17:45] <crush[A]>  how do I tell version of flash Im running ?
[17:45] <Jyzygzel-> how do i mount NTFS in Read Only?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> You can use the ntfs filesystem instead of ntfs-3g and it should default to read only
[17:46] <snarkster> Jyzygzel-:  mount -t ntfs-3g -o r
[17:46] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:46] <ubuntu_> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:46] <ubuntu_> fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/hda6
[17:46] <ubuntu_> You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[17:46] <ubuntu_> it says that now?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you must be root/use sudo to do system wide things.
[17:46] <ubuntu_> wachu mean?
[17:46] <Jyzygzel-> snarkster and where does the source and destination come?
[17:46] <ubuntu_> use the linix swap drive?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> sudo SYSTEMTYPECOMMANDS
[17:47] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[17:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[17:47] <ubuntu_> so okya in this case what would i type?
[17:48] <snarkster> Jyzygzel-: mount -t ntfs /dev/windows partition /mnt/windows
[17:48] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: prefix your command with 'sudo '
[17:48] <ubuntu_> wat do you mean prefix?
[17:49] <ubuntu_> type in sudo?
[17:49] <crush[A]> prefix = start with
[17:49] <waylandbill> I mean sudo do and then the command you want to run as root. I guess I meant prepend rather than prefix.
[17:50] <waylandbill> s/sudo do/sudo/
[17:51] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -y /dev/hda6
[17:51] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:51] <ubuntu_> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:51] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda6: clean, 90811/7421952 files, 756492/14823963 blocks
[17:51] <snarkster> trying to get mp3 support for amarok and its not going
[17:51] <ubuntu_> it says that now
[17:52] <snarkster> ima go smoke again
[17:52] <Dr_willis> looks like it finished.
[17:52] <bazhang> snarkster: kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:52] <ubuntu_> so what should i do now?
[17:53] <snarkster> installing it now
[17:53] <Dr_willis> No idea what you were trying to do.. you just checked the filesystem... it says its ok.
[17:53] <ubuntu_> well im tryin to get linux to work
[17:53] <ubuntu_> cause wheni boot it without cd it says cannot mount selected partition
[17:55] <Dr_willis> whates the exact error message perhaps? and when is it saying this? it could be your /etc/fstab is  incorrect. - If this is a clean install. It may be easier to just try reinstalling.
[17:55] <jim__> What is the package name for openGL header files. Does this depend on my video card?
[17:56] <ubuntu_> so your basicly saying
[17:56] <ubuntu_> reinstall linux?
[17:56] <ubuntu_> and how do i format the drives to make sure nothing happens (erorr)
[17:56] <ubuntu_> left click un parition?
[17:57] <Dr_willis> The installer should ask. or use the gparted tool to just delete the existing linux partitions, leaving part of the drive 'unallocated' the installer will ask to use that part of the drive
[17:58] <Dr_willis> its proberly possible to trouble shoot your problem. But theres so many things that could be incorrect it may take a lot of time.
[17:58] <ubuntu_> okay ll just reinstall
[17:58] <ubuntu_> hopefully it works
[17:58] <ubuntu_> cause yesterday i did it i had a grub problem
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Its possible your hard drive layout is confusing the installer also.
[17:58] <ubuntu_> it was a headache and i dont even remember how i fixed it
[17:58] <Kingzar> Niceeeee
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Grub can be a bit over whelming at first.
[17:59] <ubuntu_> ye i was soo lost
[17:59] <Dr_willis> so many new concepts - and things to learn
[17:59] <ubuntu_> what a grub was
[17:59] <ubuntu_> and how it all worked
[17:59] <ubuntu_> i didnt even know what a grub was
[17:59] <ubuntu_> i had to google it
[17:59] <Dr_willis> The grub homepage has very well done docs. :) and is worth reading some time.
[17:59] <ubuntu_> alright i gues i shall reinstall
[17:59] <ubuntu_> thanks for your help
[17:59] <ubuntu_> ill be back though
[18:02] <snarkster>  upon installing sun java 6 will java stuf work in firefox or do i need to install jre1.4?
[18:02] <Dr_willis> it should work snarkster
[18:02] <bazhang> from the extras snarkster?
[18:02] <snarkster> yep
[18:02] <bazhang> should do
[18:03] <snarkster> wow this kde4 is pretty cool
[18:03] <bazhang> snarkster: be sure to get the medibuntu.org packages libdvdcss2 and win32codecs as well
[18:03] <snarkster> does kubuntu offer mach64 chipset drivers?
[18:04] <snarkster> what is the url to the medibuntu.org repository
[18:05] <bazhang> www.medibuntu.org :}
[18:05] <bazhang> snarkster: you can just grab the two packages
[18:05] <bazhang> no need to enable repos, unless you want acroread, google earth etc
[18:06] <Kingzar> My kopete doesnt allow me to send messages on MSn
[18:06] <jim__> What is the package name for openGL header files. Does this depend on my video card?
[18:06] <crush[A]> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:06] <crush[A]> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[18:07] <crush[A]>  will add to repos
[18:07] <jim__> I tried xorg-x11-devel but this doesn't work
[18:08] <Wanderer> Anyone have the url of the 'how to co-install kde4' ?
[18:13] <snarkster> crush[A] thank you
[18:13]  * msemtd thanks the channel
[18:13] <crush[A]> ye snarkster
[18:13] <bazhang> heh
[18:13] <Dr_willis> !find opengl
[18:13] <ubotu> Found: cl-sdl-opengl, gambas2-gb-opengl, gambas2-gb-qt-opengl, libghc6-opengl-dev, libghc6-opengl-doc (and 9 others)
[18:14] <Dr_willis> jim__,  search the package manager for anything with opengl and -dev at the end. :)
[18:14] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[18:14] <Dr_willis> !find opengl-dev
[18:14] <ubotu> Found: libghc6-opengl-dev
[18:14] <Dr_willis> Hmm. wonder if thats it.
[18:14] <snarkster> that bot is awesome
[18:14] <Dr_willis> !info libghc6-opengl-dev
[18:14] <ubotu> libghc6-opengl-dev: Haskell OpenGL binding for GHC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1988 kB, installed size 17752 kB
[18:15] <Dr_willis> IS the stuff even called opengl any more?
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Yep the bot is handy.
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Hay Minataku
[18:15] <crush[A]> unfortunately not alot know how to use it effectively
[18:15]  * snarkster had no idea
[18:15] <Kingzar> is there in compiz fusion an option to send a window to another Virtual desktop?
[18:15] <Kingzar> a shortcut?
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> how does something exceed simple?
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> Wanderer: topic? /topic
[18:16] <Dr_willis> Kingzar,  check the cssm tool theres so many settings/keybindings in there.. its scary
[18:16] <crush[A]> Kingzar,  #compiz-fusion will help ya tons
[18:16] <Kingzar> toooo much
[18:17] <crush[A]> thats all them guys and gals do
[18:19] <Wanderer> WaltzingAlong: thanks, it had run off the side
[18:21] <snarkster> now im installing the kdenetwork manager for kde4.. lets hope this doesnt kill my computer
[18:22] <Manyfold> is kde4 fully functional?
[18:23] <snarkster> no not really.
[18:23] <snarkster> as this next post by me will show
[18:23] <snarkster> http://pastebin.ca/816218
[18:24] <jim__> Dr Willis __ Thanks I'll try that package.
[18:24] <snarkster> how do i get around that issue?
[18:25] <snarkster> do i uninstall kget
[18:25] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove kget
[18:26] <crush[A]> snarkster arent you usin kde4?
[18:26] <snarkster> yes I am
[18:26] <crush[A]> why would you be removing stuff on an unstable distro ?
[18:26] <Dr_willis> why would one be using an unstable disrto. :)
[18:26] <snarkster> cause Im trying to install kdenetwork manager
[18:27] <crush[A]> nodz at Dr_willis
[18:27] <Dr_willis> well..  i guess people still use windows.. so thats old-habbits. :)
[18:27] <snarkster> eh Im bored and i want to see how stable it really is
[18:27] <Dr_willis> I test out kde4 with live cd's - much safer
[18:27] <Kingzar> ANyone know hoow to make a screenshot in kubuntu? While using cube or shift switcher?!
[18:29] <dundukas> hi there ;)
[18:30] <TimS> Where can I enable/disable startup process such as bluetooth which i dont use?
[18:30] <stdin> snarkster: 3.93.0? that's nowhere near recent
[18:30] <dundukas> TimS:  system settings?
[18:30] <TimS> Couldn't find it
[18:31] <emilsedgh> TimS: i think service manager in system settings
[18:31] <emilsedgh> TimS: in advanced tab
[18:31] <TimS> Ah, thankyou.
[18:31] <dundukas> I want to ask about kde4 live
[18:32] <dundukas> is it possible to establish pppoe connection?
[18:32] <dundukas> or it is only live cd without this kind of connection?
[18:33] <dundukas> sudo pppoeconf is not responding
[18:33] <lingard> how do i install a webcam on kubuntu?
[18:33] <amber_> hi everyone
[18:33] <lingard> its not been auto detected but it shows up in info centre
[18:33] <bazhang> !webcam | lingard
[18:33] <ubotu> lingard: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[18:34] <lingard> thanks
[18:34] <dundukas> bazhang:  what about me?
[18:34] <dundukas> !pppoe
[18:34] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[18:34] <bazhang> dundukas: not sure as I use dsl
[18:34] <dundukas> ubotu:  is it valid about live cd?
[18:35] <bazhang> dundukas: he's a bot
[18:35] <dundukas> okay :)
[18:35] <peck_> pour ceux qui n'ont pas de son, quelqu'un sais quelquechose?
[18:35] <snarkster> Im using 4.3.97
[18:35] <bazhang> !fr | peck_
[18:35] <ubotu> peck_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:36] <dundukas> pppoe is not working, anyway, I'll use kde :)
[18:36] <peck_> merci
[18:36] <pastulio> what do i type to install firefox?
[18:36] <nick__> Hey everyone, I just got a new hard drive (external plugged in thru USB) and when I try to mount it, it says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" Can anyone help me?
[18:36] <dundukas> pastulio:  sudo apt-get install firefox?
[18:36] <dundukas> pastulio:  u can even try ff3
[18:36] <Dr_willis> nick__, Hmm.. i recall seeing that HAL bug befor. BUt never did see/hear of the right fix. THe forums may have what to do.
[18:36] <dundukas> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[18:37] <dundukas> pastulio:  it depends on you ;)
[18:37] <dundukas> so my suggestion
[18:38] <dundukas> plz insert rp-pppoe into kde4 live cd :(
[18:38] <dundukas> lots of toys, no connection :|
[18:38] <nick__> Dr_willis: It is password protected (in Windows) but I disabled it before I logged onto Kubuntu do you think that has something to do with it?  Searching the forums now...
[18:39] <snarkster> brb
[18:39] <Dr_willis> nick__,   No idea there. If it has data on it. You may want to backit up under windowsm, and reformat it.
[18:39] <dundukas> gg
[18:40] <dundukas> I hope somebody heard me :)
[18:40]  * TuX_Claudiu .
[18:41] <Dr_willis> in here - i doubt it. :)
[18:41] <dundukas> even in minuscoulous puppy linux distro it's easiear to establish network connection
[18:41] <Dr_willis> go put kde4 in puppy then.
[18:41] <dundukas> :D
[18:41] <dundukas> good idea
[18:41] <Dr_willis> use the command line tools to enable the connection.
[18:42] <alesan> any idea how I install the java plugin for firefox in 64bit mode? I already have sun jdk installed.
[18:42] <dundukas> criticism is good sometimes
[18:42] <dundukas> alesan:  automatix?
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Thers no need for automatix these days
[18:42] <Dr_willis> install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start.
[18:42] <dundukas> really?
[18:42] <dundukas> okay
[18:42] <Dr_willis> dundukas,  there never was much of a need for it.
[18:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:43] <nick__> Dr_willis: Got it working...so simple, thanks so much
[18:43] <t1n0m3n> I think I am having a config tug of war issue between "nvidia-settings" and the default KDE application.  I am running dual monitors.  Primary is 1440x900.  Secondary is 1680x1050.  I am running two x-servers.  When I am at KDM the resolution is fine.  When I log in, my secondary monitor goes to 640x480.  I have to reset the resolution to 1680x1050 with "nvidia-settings" to get the resolution correct.  Any idea on where to look would be appreciated.  I a
[18:43] <t1n0m3n> X2500M
[18:44] <Wanderer> blah, kde4 blows up, no errors
[18:44] <t1n0m3n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48235/   < xorg.conf
[18:44] <Dr_willis> X2500M is ati aint it?
[18:44] <Kingzar> What's the better version karamba or superKaramba?!
[18:45] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: Are you talking to me?
[18:46] <lingard> my taskbar's gone funny
[18:46] <Dr_willis> yes t1n0m3n  Unless thers some nvidia cards ive never heard of. :) that sounds like an ati card.
[18:46] <lingard> i can't see the Kmenue
[18:46] <lingard> *Kmenu
[18:46] <Dr_willis> each user can also have their own video-res  settings under kde
[18:46] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadrofx_go.html
[18:46] <dundukas> So can I ask?
[18:46] <amber_> how old is everyone
[18:47] <lingard> 20
[18:47] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,    You are running nvidia-settings with a sudo?
[18:47] <dundukas> Plz include pppoe in to next kubuntu kde4 live
[18:47] <amber_> i am 11
[18:47] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: Yes
[18:47] <dundukas> young one :)
[18:47] <Dr_willis> dundukas,  sicne this is not a kde4 support channel..  :) you may want to go to the forums.
[18:47] <dundukas> sry then :)
[18:47] <ziggy_> bunch of babies in this room, how does an eleven year get involved in Kubuntu?
[18:47] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  not sure then.  The xorg.conf may need tweaking.
[18:48] <amber_> i do not want to be called  that is for sure who are you calling that
[18:48] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48235/   < xorg.conf  I tweaked it already
[18:48] <paul_the_muso> 37, god I feel old
[18:48] <ziggy_> yeah
[18:48] <ziggy_> im 29
[18:49]  * dundukas 35
[18:49] <ardchoille> !ot
[18:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:49] <dundukas> !ot
[18:49] <dundukas> not working :|
[18:49] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: The problem is that the KDE "Monitor & Display" is changing my xorg.conf setting upon login.
[18:49] <ziggy_> Is there going to a KDE4 live cd released by ubuntu?
[18:50] <Wanderer> I installed kde4 from the URL in the topic, logged out, set my session to kde4 and logged it, it exited right back to kdm...  anyone have ideas?
[18:50] <lingard> my task bar has nothing on it, how do i get it all back?
[18:50]  * genii feels older than everyone else so far, so he sips his coffee
[18:50] <dundukas> Wanderer:  ziggy_ channel kde4 ;)
[18:50] <ardchoille> lingard: right click the panel, choose "Add applet to panel" and add some items
[18:50] <Kingzar> does anyone know if superkaramba or karamba is better or are they the same?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  let me paste mine. then you can compare. of course Mine is for a tv out.
[18:51] <Dr_willis> Its possible its not detecting the moniotrs properly
[18:51] <dundukas> ziggy_:  there is
[18:51] <pteague_work> is there a way to get kdesvn to use an already checked out working copy?
[18:51] <lingard> it adds nothing
[18:51] <pteague_work> nm, finally got it
[18:51] <amber_> is there any girls
[18:51] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: Thanks
[18:51] <lingard> when i move the taskbar to the left side of the screen some of the tings come up on it
[18:51] <Wanderer> dundukas: since I'm running kubuntu, they keep telling me to come here
[18:51] <dundukas> amber_:  there are plenty of girls, everyboy's looking for you ;)
[18:51] <lingard> though none of the first 3 icons nore the quick access bit
[18:52] <lingard> *nore
[18:52] <lingard> **nor
[18:52] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  Mines rather simple   http://pastebin.com/m16b6a89b
[18:52] <t1n0m3n> is it possible to ignore someone in this IRC thing?
[18:52] <ziggy_> what is your hardware?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  right click on their name
[18:52] <dundukas> t1n0m3n:  use kvirc for kde
[18:52] <Dr_willis> of coruse xchat for some idiotic reason removed that menu item
[18:52] <dundukas> lots of things
[18:53] <t1n0m3n> /ignore
[18:53] <dundukas> kvirc is good :)
[18:53] <t1n0m3n> k, thanks
[18:53] <amber_> no i do not want a guy friend
[18:53] <ziggy_> kicker is a buggy little program, i'm glad they're ditching it.
[18:53] <crush[A]>  good afternoon amber
[18:53] <t1n0m3n> amber_: can you go somewhere else please.
[18:54] <t1n0m3n> oh cool, thanks
[18:54] <crush[A]>  nodz at ziggy_
[18:54] <crush[A]>  yea kicker sux
[18:54] <alex__> Hi
[18:55] <ziggy_> althoug part of it depends on the distro, when i was using kubuntu or mint kicker seemed to have more problems than under mandriva
[18:55] <genii> Heh I was going to refer amber_ to #ubuntu-women
[18:55] <alex__> i have a new installed version of kubuntu and i don't know the root password... could anyone help me?
[18:55] <genii> !root
[18:55] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:55] <ziggy_> the root for livecd? otherwise it should have asked you to enter one
[18:56] <ardchoille> ziggy_: There is no root password
[18:56] <t1n0m3n> use "sudo" for commandline and "kdesu" for the run dialog box
[18:56] <alex__> and su doesn't work?
[18:56] <dundukas> ziggy_:  sudo su
[18:56] <ziggy_> but the password for sudo IS the root password
[18:56] <dundukas> sudo su
[18:57] <alex__> ah that works
[18:57] <dundukas> then you'll become root
[18:57] <t1n0m3n> hehe
[18:57] <alex__> are there any problems, if i change the root pw?
[18:57] <ziggy_> only if you forget it
[18:57] <alex__> hehe
[18:57] <t1n0m3n> I changed mine, no problems
[18:57] <alex__> ok thank you very much
[18:57] <ardchoille> !sudo | alex__ Read this page to see some advantages with sudo
[18:57] <ubotu> alex__ Read this page to see some advantages with sudo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[18:57] <alex__> do anyone of you know, if wine is installed by defauld?
[18:57] <t1n0m3n> But you will most likely not use it
[18:58] <ziggy_> not if your using kde
[18:58] <t1n0m3n> it is not installed
[18:58] <ziggy_> kubuntu
[18:58] <ziggy_> i mean
[18:58] <dundukas> alex__:  no
[18:58] <dundukas> alex__:  no problems to install wine
[18:58] <alex__> hehe :-)
[18:58] <alex__> using apt-get is best, i think?
[18:58] <ziggy_> synaptic is easier
[18:58] <dundukas> alex__:  nope, using winehq.org
[18:59] <ziggy_> or adept
[18:59] <ziggy_> whichever
[18:59] <dundukas> alex__:  there are packages for (k)ubuntu
[18:59] <alex__> i don't know adept :-)
[18:59] <dundukas> alex__:  nobody knows ;)
[18:59] <dundukas> apt-get rulz
[18:59] <ziggy_> it pretty straightforward, uglier than synaptic though
[19:00] <ziggy_> apt-get is pretty nice
[19:00] <ziggy_> i use urpmi and its alot slower and the documentaions worse, but it seems to have more current repositories
[19:00] <genii> alex__: dundukas is right, the current version 0.9.50 is at winehq website for debian/ubuntu they have a deb package there which you can use dpkg on, or follow the instructions given to add winehq to your repositories
[19:00] <Dr_willis> learn  the apt-get tools  - it will save your backside at sme time. :)
[19:01] <ziggy_> you might try getdeb.com too
[19:01] <ziggy_> they have alot of more up to date packages for ubuntu
[19:01]  * dundukas sometimes right
[19:01] <alex__> so
[19:01] <alex__> is it easy to run a game wich needs windows?
[19:01]  * genii hands dundukas a coffee
[19:01] <dundukas> genii:  thx ;)
[19:02] <ziggy_> depends on the game, wine has a list of programs that will run and the degrees of how well they run at their website
[19:02] <dundukas> alex__:  often it is not hard
[19:02] <genii> alex__: The best thing is to check the wine website which has a compatability list of windows applications
[19:02] <dundukas> alex__:  my suggestion, do it from command line
[19:02] <alex__> i saw the game on the website its dark age of camelot
[19:03] <dundukas> alex__: cd /way/to/game, wine game.exe
[19:03] <sigma_kubuntu> whats a good linux substitute to midtown madness?
[19:03] <ziggy_> i dont know the game, sorry
[19:04] <dundukas> alex__:  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=443
[19:05] <dundukas> it works
[19:05] <alex__> so
[19:05] <dundukas> so
[19:05] <alex__> works it, if its on a ntfs partition?
[19:05] <dundukas> I'm playing aom, warIII
[19:05] <dundukas> from my ntfs partitions, no problems
[19:05] <sigma_kubuntu> its a microsoft game. like gta but without the violence. i like driving the bus around town
[19:06] <dundukas> the newest games aren't good for my pc :|
[19:06] <adi> hi all
[19:06] <dundukas> hi there
[19:06] <alex__> sounds good
[19:06] <alex__> but what about savegames?
[19:06] <adi> can anyone help with some kde/kubuntu probs
[19:06] <dundukas> alex__:  no problem
[19:06] <dundukas> just save them
[19:06] <sigma_kubuntu> i have seen transport sims in linux but they arent quite the same
[19:06] <adi> fresh install of kubuntu 7.10
[19:07] <dundukas> adi:  so?
[19:07] <adi> first time I do sudo apt-get update
[19:07] <alex__> but were are they safed...? i though linux couldn't write on ntfs?
[19:07] <dundukas> I'm using this shit also :D
[19:07] <adi> and it is stuck at 27%
[19:07] <dundukas> alex__:  they can
[19:07] <sigma_kubuntu> adi: wats da prob?
[19:07] <dundukas> adi:  some problem
[19:07] <waylandbill> !info ntfs3g
[19:07] <ubotu> Package ntfs3g does not exist in gutsy
[19:08] <alex__> so ^ next problem ^ how do i find out were my windows partitions are? :-)
[19:08] <dundukas> it is :O
[19:08] <adi> and no update manager can work
[19:08] <DaSkreech> !info ntfs-3g
[19:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[19:08] <dundukas> alex__:  they should be mounted
[19:08] <DaSkreech> !info ntfs-config | waylandbill
[19:08] <ubotu> waylandbill: ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[19:08] <waylandbill> thanks DaSkreech
[19:09] <adi> dundukas:nevermind
[19:09] <dundukas> alex__:  there was risky to write into ntfs old days, but not now
[19:09] <adi> it works now
[19:09] <adi> thanks anyway
[19:09] <alex__> cool
[19:09] <dundukas> okay ;)
[19:09] <alex__> how do i find them? :-)
[19:09] <DaSkreech> dundukas: It's still risk but within reasonable parameters
[19:09] <dundukas> alex__:  ntfs partitions?
[19:09] <alex__> yes
[19:09] <lingard> there are some iconst that have appeared in the top right corner for applications i have open, how do i get rid of them?
[19:10] <dundukas> alex__:  /media/(h)sda..
[19:10] <alex__> ahhhh
[19:10] <alex__> i am a fool
[19:10] <adi> what is the command to know what versione of kubuntu or kernel linux I have installed??
[19:10] <dundukas> alex__:  :D no, you aren't
[19:10] <alex__> i tried to mount hdc ^ but i think, its sdc :D thanks
[19:10] <dundukas> sda
[19:11] <alex__> mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt busy
[19:11] <adi> what is the command to know what versione of kubuntu or kernel linux I have installed??
[19:11] <dundukas> lingard:  right mouse click on the icon
[19:11] <_da61_> Waylandbill, where's Jisao ?
[19:11] <dundukas> adi:  uname -a
[19:11] <Kingzar> !ntfs
[19:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:12] <Kingzar> !NTFS-3g
[19:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:12] <lingard> i close the icon and it closes the app
[19:12] <adi> ok
[19:12] <dundukas> lingard:  what do you want to do?
[19:13] <lingard> get rid of the icon but not the app
[19:13] <lingard> i was having a play around and they came up
[19:13] <alex__> hm
[19:13] <lingard> no i can't get them to go
[19:13] <alex__> i have spaces in the foldernames... .-/
[19:13] <alex__> ah got it
[19:13] <awag> !kde4
[19:13] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[19:13] <dundukas> alex__:  cd /Program\ Files
[19:14] <DaSkreech> !tab | alex__
[19:14] <ubotu> alex__: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[19:14] <dundukas> alex__:  got it? okay
[19:14] <Taggnostr> http://tabrobot.com/cgi-bin/tsearch.pl?terms=|+alex__&mode=group
[19:14] <lingard> oh, sorted it
[19:14] <lingard> it was called the kasbar
[19:14] <dundukas> trashbar :D
[19:15] <lingard> lol
[19:15] <Kingzar> does anyone know how to keep the widgets on all sides of the cube?
[19:15] <alex__> so :-) push thumbs that it will work :D
[19:15] <awag> anyone else get an "error 1" on a package when trying to install kde 4?
[19:15] <alex__> yes, thank you dundukas :-)
[19:16] <pastryness> how can i make firefox my default web browser instead of konqueror when i click on links?
[19:16] <arrrghhh> pastryness: goto edit -> prefs
[19:16] <Kingzar> widgets!
[19:17] <arrrghhh> on the main page there, look at the bottom (system defaults)
[19:17] <alex__> one more question:
[19:17] <dundukas> alex__:  remember, launch programs from terminals, often they don't work, when launched from gui
[19:17] <alex__> i have 2 workplaces
[19:17] <dundukas> yep
[19:17] <alex__> any options to switch between them?
[19:17] <alex__> like alt-tab?
[19:17] <arrrghhh> hey does anyone have experience connecting to a shared folder on a virtual machine running within ubuntu
[19:17] <dundukas> moouse
[19:18] <arrrghhh> alex__: you can setup global shortcuts like alt-shift-right arrow
[19:18] <dundukas> yep
[19:18] <alex__> ah ok... thank you
[19:18] <arrrghhh> the vm is winxp...
[19:19] <arrrghhh> or i guess i should ask if anyone has experiencing printing to a win-only printer from linux... the method i found was to setup a ghostscript and capture the output with redmon.  i also found a way to do it with setting up a shared folder and having cups print to that shared folder... either way, i need to access the windows machine with samba and i cannot.
[19:20] <alex__> Lol... runs in windowed mode pP
[19:20] <alex__> oO
[19:20] <Kingzar> how do you edit widgets?
[19:20] <alex__> is this normal or maybe a bug of the game? :-D
[19:20] <dundukas> alex__:  not always
[19:21] <dundukas> alex__:  also try to install wine-doors
[19:21] <alex__> wine-doors?
[19:21] <dundukas> alex__:  they will help you to install directx
[19:21] <alex__> daoc crashed :-((((
[19:22] <dundukas> :O
[19:22] <alex__> hm
[19:22] <alex__> so i need to install directx? :-)
[19:22] <dundukas> alex__:  look here: http://wiki.winehq.org/ThirdPartyApplications
[19:23] <dundukas> you'll find
[19:23] <Kingzar> where can i find more informations about widgets
[19:23] <Kingzar> or who can tell me more about it
[19:24] <arrrghhh> Kingzar: there's tons... and several apps for it, gdesklets, screenlets, superkaramaba or whatever
[19:24] <Kingzar> what's the best one? i just tried superkaramaba but it doesn't allow me to edit widgets..
[19:25] <Kingzar> and you can't find much on it
[19:25] <dundukas> alex__:  what kind of games are you playing?
[19:26] <alex__> mmorpg
[19:26] <alex__> :)
[19:26] <Jyzygzel-> why wont NTFS-3G work
[19:26] <Jyzygzel-> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[19:26] <Jyzygzel-> FUSE mount point creation failed
[19:26] <dundukas> alex__:  would you like fps with strategy?
[19:26] <alex__> fps?
[19:27] <alex__> ah
[19:27] <dundukas> first person shooter
[19:27] <alex__> maybe ^
[19:27] <alex__> why? :)
[19:27] <dundukas> try tremoulous
[19:27] <dundukas> dunno why :D
[19:27] <Jyzygzel-> why why why
[19:27] <dundukas> alex__:  look linuxlinks.com, hope u'll find something interesting
[19:28] <JontheEchidna> Does anyone know of a way I can rezise my root partition without reformatting?
[19:28] <arrrghhh> JontheEchidna: if gparted or qparted doesn't do it, the only thing i found that works *well* is partitionmagic....
[19:28] <JontheEchidna> qparted had the resize option greyed out :/
[19:29] <alex__> hm
[19:29] <arrrghhh> hrm... have you tried gparted?
[19:29] <alex__> i play daoc with my gf :)
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> haven't heard of that one
[19:29] <alex__> but atm it doesn't work
[19:29] <arrrghhh> it's the gnome gui for uhm... i forgot what it's the frontend for.
[19:29] <arrrghhh> i'm guessing mkfs
[19:30] <arrrghhh> amoung other things
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> heh
[19:30] <t1n0m3n> FYI, I fixed my monitor resolution issue...  I deleted .KDE dir
[19:31] <Kingzar> My adept manager is messed up how do i fix that? there was a command for it
[19:32] <t1n0m3n> Kingzar: sudo apt-get update
[19:32] <awag> i thought that i should have a .kde4 directory in my home after installing kde 4
[19:32] <awag> but there is none
[19:32] <t1n0m3n> Kingzar: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:32] <Kingzar> thanks
[19:33] <alex__> ok, trying an update for wine
[19:33] <Jyzygzel-> how do i mount NTFS?
[19:33] <awag> !ntfs
[19:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:33] <Kingzar> doesn't fix it
[19:33] <Kingzar> !apt
[19:33] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:33] <Kingzar> !apt-get
[19:33] <Kingzar> !adept
[19:33] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:34] <dundukas> I had some problems with it
[19:34] <Jyzygzel-> thats automatic mounting
[19:34] <Jyzygzel-> i just neet to mount once
[19:34] <dundukas> It won't find the fastest server :|
[19:34] <lingard> how do i run an app from the terminal?
[19:35] <dundukas> doesn't matter :)
[19:35] <dundukas> lingard:  name of command
[19:35] <lingard> is that it?
[19:35] <lingard> no sudo or anything like that?
[19:35] <dundukas> lingard:  try "kate"
[19:35] <dundukas> sudo as super user
[19:36] <Kingzar> what's the command to fix, that apt-get is in use by something else
[19:36] <lingard> it opened kate :)
[19:36] <Kingzar> there's no program open that uses apt-get now
[19:36] <dundukas> lingard:  nice ;)
[19:37] <lingard> in synaptic ate the only programs the ones with the ubuntu logo next to them?
[19:37] <Kingzar> !apt
[19:37] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:37] <awag> Kingzar, dkpg --update -a
[19:37] <awag> with a sudo
[19:38] <alex__> damn :(
[19:38] <alex__> doesn't work
[19:38] <awag> eer
[19:38] <dundukas> alex__:  what kind of problem?
[19:38] <alex__> daoc crashes
[19:38] <awag> it might be dpkg --configure -a
[19:38] <awag> yeah thats it
[19:39] <alex__> it starts normaly, i can login, but when i come to charakter choise or directly in game (with grafics) then the window closes...
[19:39] <Kingzar> still not work
[19:39] <dundukas> alex__:  is it new game?
[19:39] <alex__> no
[19:39] <Kingzar> sudo dkpg --update -a <--- doesn't work
[19:39] <alex__> on winehq is written, that it works...
[19:39] <dundukas> alex__:  is directx installed?
[19:39] <dundukas> alex__:  try first wine doors
[19:40] <ibilic> what does the little kubuntu symbol mean in Adept manager next to a package?
[19:40] <dundukas> and open the game from command lin
[19:40] <alex__> do i have to install directX and wine doors or only one of it?
[19:40] <t1n0m3n> what is the best way to change the hostname on kubuntu?
[19:40] <t1n0m3n> /etc/hosts?
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> t1n0m3n: edit /etc/hosts
[19:40] <t1n0m3n> k, thanks
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> t1n0m3n: there are other ways... but thate one off the top of my hear
[19:40] <dundukas> edit /etc/hosts
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> *head
[19:41] <dundukas> tpfu :D
[19:41] <alex__> get wine doors via apt-get? or from the page?
[19:41] <dundukas> alex__:  package
[19:41] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: means that it is an officially supported kubuntu (ubuntu) package
[19:43] <alex__> ok installing
[19:43] <Kingzar> how do i fix the adept occupied problem?
[19:43] <dundukas> wise guy
[19:43] <crush_groove>  If I am in a directory and I am looking at a jpeg that is there .. how do I open it ?
[19:43] <alex__> dundukas: then directx?
[19:43] <Jyzygzel-> how do i mount NTFS?
[19:44] <ardchoille> crush_groove: double-click it?
[19:44] <awag> Kingzar,
[19:44] <dundukas> alex__:  run from konsole
[19:44] <alex__> or first try it?
[19:44] <awag> Kingzar, did you try what i told you?
[19:44] <alex__> ok
[19:44] <Elgordo123> Hello all.  I can't get a cube on compiz.  when it ctrl-alt-leftmouse I just get a wall with 2 sides.   wall is unselected and cube and rotate cube is selected. even restarted.   anyhelp?
[19:44] <crush_groove>  in the directory ?
[19:44] <alex__> direct x or the game?
[19:44] <ardchoille> crush_groove: In konq or dolphin?
[19:44] <crush_groove> no
[19:44] <crush_groove>  Im talkin dorectly from the term
[19:44] <Elgordo123> Jyzygzel-   do a sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/whatevter /media/whatever
[19:44] <Kingzar> Yes it didn't work
[19:44] <dundukas> Elgordo123:  --#compiz
[19:45] <lingard> has anyone been sucessfully able to set up streaming with kaffeine?
[19:45] <awag> Kingzar, sudo dpkg --configure -a <-- you did that?
[19:45] <Kingzar> yes
[19:45] <awag> hmm
[19:45] <Kingzar> with run command
[19:45] <awag> not sure
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> Elgordo123
[19:45] <lingard> or broadcasting
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> FUSE mount point creation failed
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> Unmounting /dev/sdb1 ()
[19:45] <ardchoille> crush_groove: kfmclient exec name_of_file
[19:45] <Kingzar> or should i do it in terminal?
[19:45] <crush_groove> cd /home/bill >> ls >> foo.jpeg   <<>> how do I open
[19:45] <awag> yeah
[19:45] <awag> try it at a terminal
[19:45] <crush_groove> nodz
[19:45] <alex__> ah ok
[19:46] <Elgordo123> Jyzygzel-  are you mounting a hard drive in your computer that is ntfs
[19:46] <alex__> so i have to download directx and run the setup with winedoors?
[19:46] <Jyzygzel-> Elgordo123 yes
[19:46] <awag> Elgordo123, go to compiz settings and make sure that the virtual width of the desktop is set to 4
[19:46] <Elgordo123> awag- thanks i'll try that
[19:46] <awag> Elgordo123, also make sure your number of virtual desktops is set to 1 within kde
[19:46] <ardchoille> crush_groove: or "kucikshow file"  or  "gwenview file"
[19:46] <Elgordo123> ok
[19:47] <ardchoille> *kuickshow
[19:48] <crush_groove> kuickshow was for me ?
[19:48] <ardchoille> crush_groove: if you have kuickshow installed
[19:48] <polywaffle> Ive tried that KDE4 liveCD, pretty disappointed really.
[19:49] <crush_groove> ardchoille, bill@Tester3:~$ ls
[19:49] <crush_groove> Desktop    index.html         lp and jake.jpeg  Public     Videos
[19:49] <crush_groove> disp       ld.so.conf.save    Music             result
[19:49] <crush_groove> Documents  LimeWireLinux.deb  Pictures          Templates
[19:49] <ardchoille> crush_groove: kfmclient exec simply opens the file in the default app for that file type
[19:49] <crush_groove>  goes to past bin
[19:50] <Elgordo123> Jyzygzel-   does it give you a warning about -o force?
[19:50] <Kingzar> Hmm i too want to know how to mount ntfs
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> !ntfs
[19:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:52] <alex__> how do i install directx?
[19:52] <awag> ...
[19:52] <Elgordo123> awag - thanks you the man! I got my cube finally
[19:52] <Jyzygzel-> Elgordo123 not anymore
[19:53] <dundukas> alex__:  in konsole type wine-doors
[19:53] <awag> Elgordo123, cool, yeah that confused me for a while too
[19:53] <Jyzygzel-> i got the error and checkdiscked my HDD
[19:53] <alex__> and then?
[19:53] <dundukas> works?
[19:53] <Kingzar> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 i got this error
[19:53] <Elgordo123> jyzugzel- try it with that -o force command at the end, it shouldn't need the -o force if you exited windows cleaninly but sometimes it still does it
[19:53] <dundukas> look for directx
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: no permissions.
[19:53] <alex__> no
[19:53] <alex__> there is written:
[19:54] <Kingzar> how do i add permissions
[19:54] <alex__> Traceback (most recent call last)
[19:54] <arrrghhh> user accounts Kingzar
[19:54] <arrrghhh> system -> users and groups
[19:54] <alex__> File "/usr/bin/wine-doors", line 21, in <module> from wine import wine
[19:54] <alex__> and some other lines
[19:54] <alex__> :(
[19:55] <WaltzingAlong> Kingzar: right mouse click on the icon for the drive/partition; uncheck mount as user
[19:55] <Kingzar> ok
[19:56] <Kingzar> that should give me write permission too?
[19:57] <alex__> dundukas? :/ any suggestion?
[19:57] <Kingzar> I'm getting this text: $logfile indicates unclean shtudown (0,0) failed to mount. Operation not supported mount is denied because ntfs is marked to be in use.
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: its already mounted, you have to unmount it.
[19:58] <Kingzar> shut it off?
[19:58] <delecti> hey guys/girls i gut a quick question.   Should be easy.
[19:58] <delecti> under file sharing i get a message SMB and SNF servers are not installed.
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: no, run "mount" and find where it is mounted, then run "sudo umount <location that tis mounted>"
[19:59] <delecti> i am trying to share things with my windows networks
[19:59] <delecti> printers included.   how do i turn these on?
[19:59] <stdin> install the package "samba"
[19:59] <stdin> !samba
[19:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:59] <delecti> ok its a package>?
[19:59] <stdin> yes
[19:59] <delecti> usually its already installed i guess
[19:59] <delecti> thanks
[20:00] <Kingzar> It's not in the list nosrednaekim
[20:00] <stdin> the "samba" package is the sever, the client is the only one installed by default
[20:00] <bin4ry> hey zusammen
[20:00] <Kingzar> i can only see sda in the list
[20:00] <Kingzar> no sdb
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: hum.
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: and that is mounted as / ?
[20:01] <bin4ry> some1 got time for a short support on azureus and incoming tcp/udp connections?
[20:01] <Kingzar> i have no clue
[20:01] <Kingzar> i just plugged it in
[20:01] <Kingzar> and turned it on
[20:01] <delecti> whats your issue with azureus
[20:01] <bin4ry> delecti: i configured my router to have to forward port xyz for tcp as well as udp connections
[20:02] <bin4ry> whenever i do the nat-test in azureus i got an error
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: eh? could you pastebin the results?
[20:02] <bin4ry> even online tests report that the ports arent open
[20:02] <bin4ry> i have no fw
[20:02] <Kingzar> can tell you about what is in the mounting tab: read only offquiet offsynchronous offacces time updates onmountpoint /media/mount automatically offutf-8 charset onmount as user off
[20:03] <Kingzar> !paste
[20:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:03] <delecti> hrm all i did was open the ports in router.  this install seems to work fin4 me
[20:03] <bin4ry> hm strange
[20:03] <delecti> what is your isp
[20:03] <Kingzar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48258/
[20:03] <bin4ry> congstar
[20:03] <delecti> are they playing with your torrents?
[20:03] <bin4ry> maybe they block the ports?
[20:03] <bin4ry> i have no clue
[20:03] <delecti> could be... or throttle
[20:03] <bin4ry> tried some random ports above 49000
[20:04] <delecti> i know its an issue with some isp right now..  throttling down bittorrent traffic
[20:04] <bin4ry> hm
[20:04] <bin4ry> ok
[20:04] <bin4ry> but even though the nat test should report a positiv result
[20:04] <bin4ry> shouldnt it?!
[20:05] <delecti> ya i guess the nat would look fine if it were the isp.   your speeds would just be reduced
[20:05] <alex__> anyone could help me with wine-doors?
[20:05] <Kingzar> what do i have to add in the users part for it>?
[20:05] <bin4ry> hmm
[20:05] <delecti> im not sure how the isps mess with  the protocol.. sry
[20:05] <Kingzar> i think disk
[20:06] <bin4ry> hm well i'll check the router config again
[20:06] <bin4ry> must missed something
[20:06] <delecti> try bypassing it if you can
[20:06] <delecti> see if that changes antything
[20:06] <bin4ry> but how?
[20:06] <delecti> direct to your modem?
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: where are you?
[20:06] <Kingzar> here
[20:07] <bin4ry> uhm
[20:07] <bin4ry> switch the router to external mode, so i'll connect to internet through dfü?
[20:07] <Kingzar> what do you mean nosrednaekim?
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: never mind
[20:08] <Kingzar> :o no solution?
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> to what?
[20:09] <alex__> dundukas: please don't leave me alone :-)
[20:09] <SonicChao> !edutainment
[20:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edutainment - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:09] <SonicChao> Ok
[20:09] <SonicChao> I chose to edit my KMenu, and wtf is edutainment? |:
[20:09] <alex__> !wine-doors
[20:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine-doors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:09] <SonicChao> A misspelling of entertainment?
[20:09] <SonicChao> Or education?
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: of both
[20:11] <SonicChao> nosrednaekim, ok, and why don't I see it in the normal menu?
[20:11] <alex__> hm... is there an option to make amarok playing mp3s from an smb sharing?
[20:11] <SonicChao> alex__, #amarok could probably help better c:
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: you proabbly didn't have edutainment apps
[20:12]  * smcintyre wonders how long it takes for #amarok to send alex__ back here
[20:13] <BluesKaj> !info winedoors
[20:13] <ubotu> Package winedoors does not exist in gutsy
[20:13] <SonicChao> nosrednaekim, ok, I know I don't. I just thought it was kind of funny. And what exactly are edutainment apps?
[20:13] <alex__> !info wine-doors
[20:13] <ubotu> Package wine-doors does not exist in gutsy
[20:13] <alex__> damnn :D
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: look up "tuxcommand" and that preciely the brand
[20:14] <Kingzar> nosrednaekim:  to my mounting problem
[20:14] <SonicChao> !info tuxcommand
[20:14] <ubotu> Package tuxcommand does not exist in gutsy
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: its something liek that.
[20:15] <SonicChao> !info tuxcommander
[20:15] <ubotu> Package tuxcommander does not exist in gutsy
[20:15] <SonicChao> >:
[20:15] <BluesKaj> !tuxkommander
[20:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxkommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> !info tuxtype