[12:37] <sumguy231> bradsnet: Pardon me if I missed this, the nvidia-glx driver is installed but doesn't work?
[12:37] <bradsnet> But really I've tried at least 10 different xorg.confs at this point.
[12:37] <bradsnet> Yes sum.
[12:38] <bradsnet> At least, that was the first problem.... I guess.
[12:38] <klobster> bradsnet: what is the command you are using to install the driver?
[12:38] <bradsnet> well, the first time I did it I just did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:38] <klobster> bradsnet: is it the same computer you are using now?
[12:38] <bradsnet> No.
[12:38] <klobster> good
[12:38] <sumguy231> Have you tried not selecting the 'glx' extension? Doing so will prevent you from using hardware acceleration, but if it works the problem lies somewhere in there, and you should still be able to load X with the nvidia drivers.
[12:39] <bradsnet> Well, nv works without hardware acceleration, but that's exactly why I want nvidia-glx.
[12:39] <klobster> what happened when you ran sudo apt blah blah
[12:39] <sumguy231> bradsnet: Yeah, I just wwant to know if it works mostly. What kind of card do you have?
[12:39] <bradsnet> Installs it just fine. Then I used the graphical interface in kubuntu to select the driver.
[12:39] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra
[12:40] <cprmpt> I gotta say guys, I'm impressed
[12:40] <klobster> bradsnet: you mean in system settings? yeah that is garbage, you need do it manually.
[12:40] <cprmpt> kubuntu has entirely replaced windows as my desktop OS
[12:40] <bradsnet> Then I rebooted, and came back to a flashing cursor, no video. I could get to the console with c+a+f1 at that point.
[12:40] <cprmpt> the only thing is that my video card drivers are not working properly...  but i dont really care to fix that right now
[12:40] <ScorpKing> nvidia geforce fx5200 gave me the same problem :(
[12:40] <bradsnet> Heh, mine either cpr... otherwise I love kubuntu.
[12:41] <bradsnet> So I checked the Xorg.0.log, and it had some jazz about libglx.so not being found, so I looked where it said it wasn't but it was there.
[12:41] <sumguy231> bradsnet: And is linux-restricted-modules-<the kernel you're using> installed?
[12:41] <bradsnet> No, I think one instruction thing I found made me remove that.
[12:42] <sumguy231> Which instruction thingy? I'm pretty sure you need the restricted modules to use the nvidia driver.
[12:42] <bradsnet> At that point I suspected my problem was this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html but I don't know enough to know if it is or not.
[12:43] <bradsnet> After I couldn't get it to work with nvidia-glx I tried to do it nvidia's way.
[12:43] <bradsnet> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[12:44] <bradsnet> it says "If you use Ubuntu, please also ensure that the linux-restricted-modules or linux-restricted-modules-common packages have been uninstalled. "
[12:44] <sumguy231> I guess I could see that, if you install Nvidia's binaries I guess the module it builds could conflict.
[12:45] <sumguy231> *with the one from the repository, I mean.
[12:45] <bradsnet> That's another confusing thing... conflicting instructions.
[12:45] <klobster> it doesn't sound like you installed the binaries, though
[12:45] <bradsnet> Installed the binaries?
[12:45] <sumguy231> Sorry, I gotta go. A lot.
[12:46] <bradsnet> Thanks anyhoo.
[12:46] <klobster> the proprietary drivers from nvidia
[12:47] <bradsnet> I downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[12:47] <bradsnet> and ran it.
[12:47] <bradsnet> A few times.
[12:47] <bradsnet> That's all it said to do.
[12:47] <klobster> what does it say when you run it?
[12:47] <bradsnet> Well, for the most part it runs fine.
[12:48] <bradsnet> Runs, compiles a kernel, reconfigures xorg.conf...
[12:48] <bradsnet> reboot, same flashing cursor, no video.
[12:48] <bradsnet> But the errors in Xorg.0.log keep changing.
[12:48] <bradsnet> Every time I do it that is.
[12:48] <klobster> what do they change to
[12:49] <bradsnet> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[12:49] <bradsnet> I followed those, and now there are no errors in it at all.
[12:49] <bradsnet> But I still have the exact same behavior.
[12:49] <bradsnet> Boots, flashing cursor, no video.
[12:50] <bradsnet> At several times during this I've changed back to the "nv" driver and it works fine every time.
[12:50] <klobster> what errors do you get with the nvidia driver?
[12:50] <bradsnet> Oh, and the card worked fine in windows.
[12:51] <bradsnet> In Xorg.0.log? With nvidia-glx? Almost exactly this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html
[12:52] <bradsnet> I mean, the only thing different about mine was slightly different directories but it looks like that was generated on a different distro.
[12:53] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone to help me configure my tv card?
[12:53] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone to help me configure my tv card? lspci gives 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[12:54] <bradsnet> Wish I could help.
[12:55] <bradsnet> oh, btw, klobster lspci does list my card.
[12:56] <aguitel> anybody helpme to change the look from my kubuntu ,i have shi.. video card
[12:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Need some help. I'm trying to get 3D working. Don't send me the bot response, as it didn't work. Anyway, I have a nVidia Geeforce 8300GS, but lspci shows "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0423 (rev a1)"
[12:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Anyone know what I can do to get it to recognize the card?
[01:00] <litm89> HOLA
[01:00] <litm89> necesito ayuda
[01:00] <litm89> can somebody help mee
[01:01] <bradsnet> I'm having an issue getting an nvidia card working as well...
[01:01] <bradsnet> Been working on it for a day and a half no with no progress.
[01:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> litm89: It's usually best to just ask your question. If someone knows, they'll respond.
[01:01] <bradsnet> Some regress infact.
[01:01] <litm89> thanks
[01:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> bradsnet: What card is it?
[01:02] <litm89>  i mount a har disk
[01:02] <litm89> and i cant umount it
[01:02] <bradsnet> 6800 go ultra
[01:02] <klobster> !es | litm89
[01:02] <litm89> its on the desk
[01:02] <ubotu> litm89: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:02] <litm89> it's name is "/"
[01:02] <litm89> thank you
[01:04] <lancos> I have kubuntu 7.06 64bit, I can i install and run a 32bit application?
[01:05] <konrad> hello
[01:06] <klobster> bradsnet: what kernel are you using?
[01:06] <konrad> sory ... i have a quest
[01:06] <U238Willy> !java
[01:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:06] <U238Willy> that's for me
[01:06] <U238Willy> ty
[01:06] <konrad> do u now where can i remove some apps from autostart ?
[01:07] <marek_> hello everybody
[01:07] <kcg> !apache2
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <bradsnet> klobster: Dunno.
[01:08] <reldruh> hi marek_
[01:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !lamp | kcg
[01:08] <ubotu> kcg: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:09] <klobster> bradsnet: run uname -r to find out
[01:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> O_O; looks like Envy might be my only solution for my video card problem.
[01:10] <kcg> WhtWolfTeraDyne, thx... but i've got a problem on enabling the php module for apache2
[01:10] <bradsnet> 1 sec, I'm going through those instructions.
[01:10] <klobster> also this looks simple enough
[01:10] <klobster> /msg bradsnet:
[01:10] <klobster>  Looking in the forums again (I'm not the only 8800GTS owner having trouble), I found these instructions:
[01:10] <klobster> 1. wget http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[01:10] <klobster> 2. sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run -x
[01:10] <klobster> 3. sudo cp -f NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[01:10] <klobster> 4. startx
[01:11] <klobster> doh!, that was supposed toi send as private msg, sorry everyone
[01:11] <bradsnet> klobster: 2.6.20-16-generic
[01:11] <marek_> i love kubuntu
[01:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD The "msg" command doesn't like you, klobster
[01:12] <klobster> I know, wtf?
[01:13] <|TraX|> Hi, I updated my system and now x won't start giving me a module version mismatch error (this started today) (And my 8800gts was working just fine with the 100.14.11 driver before now)
[01:13] <klobster> bradsnet: since you already have the driver, just try steps 2, 3 4.  have you been stopping x before running htis?
[01:13] <|TraX|> Any ideas?
[01:14] <klobster> |TraX|: you need to reinstall the propreietary driver every time you update your kernel
[01:14] <|TraX|> That's what I figured
[01:14] <klobster> sorry
[01:15] <|TraX|> S'ok I did it a thousand times with 2 other distros before I tried kubuntu and got it to work
[01:15] <klobster> it's one of the hazards of running closed source drivers
[01:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> It's odd. Wolvix can see the card as an 8300GS in LiveCD mode, but Kubuntu can't see it even when installed.
[01:16] <marek_> it's a new world
[01:17] <konrad> help meee ! how can i control autostart ? :(
[01:17] <bradsnet> klobster: Sorry, already up to step 7... they seem like the might be helpful.... um, yes, I've been stopping x before running the install if that is what you mean, it won't do most things unless it is stopped.
[01:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *sigh* I guess I'll just live without 3D, or use my Windows laptop for such things. I refuse to use envy. Too much breakage.
[01:18] <klobster> bradsnet: just checking.  didja see the steps above?  it's pretty much just the important part from the other link.
[01:18] <bradsnet> Yes, I definately did that.
[01:18] <|TraX|> klobster: I'm guessing I don't have to change my xorg.conf?
[01:19] <klobster> |TraX|: no, it shouldn't have changed since last time
[01:19] <klobster> |TraX|: you are essentially relinking the driver to the new kernel; you aren't actually updating the software.
[01:20] <bradsnet> Moment of truth...
[01:20] <klobster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: that card is too new, gutsy might see it, though
[01:20] <help-me> xorg.conf.fglrx-2 ,xorg.conf.fglrx-1, xorg.conf.fglrx-0 , xorg.conf.20070830233211 , i deleted my xorg.con file but my pc can open 1280x1100 32bit dept but i dont know which xorg.conf opening my pc icant set any parameters my graphic adapter functions on desktop...
[01:20] <bradsnet> Okay, it did something different. Not really better, but different. Now it gave me the kubuntu logo without the status bar for a few seconds before going to the flashing cursor...
[01:20] <bradsnet> yay
[01:21] <klobster> bradsnet: I need to see dmesg  before making any other suggestions.
[01:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> klobster: Ok. I'll just wait till Gutsy goes final, then.
[01:22] <help-me> ??
[01:22] <Phoenix_Fire> hello
[01:22] <klobster> help-me: I am not clear on your question
[01:22] <bradsnet> Now that nv isn't working either I REALLY don't know how to do that.
[01:22] <klobster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: that's what i am doing
[01:22] <Phoenix_Fire> what is the advantage when i configure a aplication in this style "./configure --prefix=/usr"
[01:22] <klobster> !hi | Phoenix_Fire
[01:22] <ubotu> Phoenix_Fire: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:23] <level1> Hi, I ran a wine game that resized my screen, and now systemsettings won't resize it back (it thinks its resizing it but its not)
[01:23] <Phoenix_Fire> should i use ./configure or ./configure --prefix=/usr to compile kaffein
[01:23] <level1> the game is no longer running?
[01:23] <klobster> Phoenix_Fire: it makes sure it links to /usr so that all users can access the app/
[01:23] <level1> !resolution
[01:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:24] <Phoenix_Fire> kobster, thx for your answear :)
[01:24] <klobster> ouf seems shy
[01:25] <bradsnet> klobster: For whatever reason I decided to re-run the nvidia script... that didn't change anything though...
[01:26] <klobster> did you copy that libwf.so file like the above suggesstion?
[01:26] <bradsnet> Yes.
[01:26] <klobster> :/
[01:26] <klobster> nv isn't working?
[01:26] <klobster> are you sure?
[01:27] <bradsnet> It's never complained about that in Xorg.0.log... so I don't think that's the issue. It complained about the symbolic link for libglx... so maybe if I could get it back to that point I could do the same thing to rebuild that link... but I have not been able to get there.
[01:27] <GuyFromHell> feh, how do i get grub to do the fancy "omg there's a windows partition" thing
[01:27] <bradsnet> I'm trying again with nv right now.
[01:27] <klobster> help-me: please re ask your question, I couldn't understand you.
[01:27] <GuyFromHell> the manual way doesn't seem to be liking me right now
[01:27] <bradsnet> Moment of truth...
[01:27] <bradsnet> Flashing cursor.
[01:27] <bradsnet> One of those steps broke nv.
[01:27] <bradsnet> From either what I sent you or what you sent me.
[01:28] <bradsnet> I really don't want to reinstall... I spent hours this morning installing and configuring software... :(
[01:28] <DrWilcock> how do i get my taskbar white on black like in windows
[01:28] <klobster> bradsnet: do you need the newest driver?  I have /NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run and it works perfect for my 6800
[01:29] <bradsnet> Well the instructions you sent me are for the one I have, which isn't that one, but I got it off of nvidia's website...
[01:30] <bradsnet> I'm a little fed up at this point with it. I might just switch to ubuntu... maybe this fix would actually work for it.
[01:30] <bradsnet> I would be glad to try that one, but at the moment don't know how I could even get it on my system...
[01:30] <bradsnet> Suppose I could boot with the livecd now that I think about it.
[01:31] <fignew> bradsnet, you're still trying to get it to work?
[01:32] <klobster> bradsnet: I am guessing the copying of that libwfb file is what is stopping it, althou it could be copmmenting out that  #install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS line
[01:32] <bradsnet> yeah, except now one of these instructions I followed made things even worse.
[01:32] <DrWilcock> does anyone know how to get my taskbar white on black like in windows
[01:32] <bradsnet> klobster: Who knows at this point...
[01:33] <bradsnet> I've done so much...
[01:33] <klobster> DrWilcock: did you try right clicking on the panel?
[01:33] <DrWilcock> i did try it
[01:33] <DrWilcock> i can get black on black
[01:33] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:33] <DrWilcock> but not white on black
[01:33] <Ace2016> how do i run a java jar file?
[01:33] <DrWilcock> there is no choices for text color
[01:34] <klobster> bradsnet: you want me to email this older version to you?  it didn't have any issues when I ran it.
[01:34] <bradsnet> I dunno.
[01:34] <bradsnet><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:34] <bradsnet> I could try it, but I think the problem is deeper now.
[01:35] <klobster> bradsnet: ok, well mv /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/old.libwfb.so should get nv running again
[01:37] <bradsnet> Trying it.
[01:39] <bradsnet> No video, no flashing cursor.
[01:39] <Phoenix_Fire> ciao and have a nice day
[01:39] <bradsnet> Switching to tty1 and back I get the flashing cursor again.
[01:40] <bradsnet> No errors in Xorg.0.log
[01:40] <klobster> that's with nv in your Xorg.conf?
[01:40] <bradsnet> Yes.
[01:40] <bradsnet> I used dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure it.
[01:41] <bradsnet> That has worked in the past.
[01:41] <klobster> ok, what about vim /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and taking the # out of the    #install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS line?
[01:41] <jhonyrod> anybody can help me?
[01:42] <bradsnet> Testing.
[01:43] <bradsnet> What is the question jhonyrod?
[01:43] <jhonyrod> i have a problem with audacity
[01:44] <bradsnet> klobster: Same, dead video.
[01:44] <bradsnet> I think I really hosed something.
[01:44] <bradsnet> :(
[01:44] <sea_4_ever> oh, wheres that guy that lost the taskbar thing?
[01:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhonyrod: Might want to be more specific.
[01:45] <sea_4_ever> ALT + F1.
[01:46] <bradsnet> At this point, I may just go back to windows.
[01:46] <bradsnet> Toss my kubuntu cd down an elevator shaft.
[01:46] <klobster> bradsnet: you can use grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf to tell me what driver is set in xorg
[01:46] <jhonyrod> do you know how can i get audacity working on linux cos i tried everything and its allways the same think, tried to configurate the audio settings and it didn't work, what should i do?
[01:47] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[01:47] <bradsnet> klobster: Well I just opened it in nano, it's nv
[01:47] <tekstacy> Where can I find a list of shortcuts and hotkeys for Kubuntu/kde?
[01:47] <jhonyrod> hey man i need some help
[01:48] <bradsnet> tekstacy: In the system configuration there is a keyboard panel, you can see what they are and customize them in there.
[01:48] <jhonyrod> bradsnet:
[01:48] <tekstacy> cool, thanks.
[01:48] <jhonyrod> did you read my messege
[01:49] <bradsnet> Yeah I dunno what to tell you.
[01:49] <jhonyrod> what?
[01:49] <bradsnet> I've been using kubuntu for 2 days and I'm ready to chuck it down a well so you are asking the wrong person.
[01:49] <jhonyrod> ok well no prob man
[01:49] <NickPresta> bradsnet, why? What
[01:49] <sea_4_ever> tekstacy : download tht little annoying AMOR thing, it tells you some every few minutes.
[01:49] <bradsnet> Good luck though.
[01:49] <NickPresta> bradsnet, What's the problem?
[01:50] <bradsnet> It's a long story, but basically I'm trying to get my video card working.
[01:50] <bradsnet> Yes, I tried installing the binary drivers.
[01:50] <sea_4_ever> bradsnet, do not chuck it, play Ktron!
[01:50] <NickPresta> bradsnet, which card do you have?
[01:50] <klobster> bradsnet: yeah, we reset the options we changed (except for installing the driver), so I am not sure why nv won't run
[01:50] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra.
[01:51] <tekstacy> :)  I saw that, it did look annoying, but I will try it.
[01:51] <NickPresta> bradsnet, is that in a Laptop?
[01:51] <bradsnet> At first nv worked and nvidia didn't, now neither work.
[01:51] <bradsnet> Yes.
[01:51] <bradsnet> I think my first problem was http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html
[01:51] <bradsnet> But I can't even get that to happen again.
[01:51] <bradsnet> But those are the exact errors I had in Xorg.0.log
[01:51] <bradsnet> Now I have no errors.
[01:51] <bradsnet> But no video.
[01:51] <bradsnet> On any driver.
[01:52] <bradsnet> I did this:
[01:52] <bradsnet> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514161
[01:52] <bradsnet> and this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[01:52] <bradsnet> One of those two got me from nv working to nv not working.
[01:52] <klobster> bradsnet: hey what happens if you run startx at the prompt now (without doing anything else)
[01:52] <NickPresta> !nvidia
[01:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:53] <klobster> NickPresta: already been there
[01:53] <NickPresta> klobster, it was for my benefit, not for bradsnet's :)
[01:53] <klobster> heh
[01:53] <bradsnet> Yeah, already told him. :)
[01:53] <elite101> hello
[01:53] <NickPresta> it's been a while since I've had to install drivers. I'm looking at the steps again
[01:53] <klobster> bradsnet: what error do you get when you do startx?
[01:53] <bradsnet> uh, okay, well now it does fatal io error 104 on X server ":0.0" after - reqeusts with 0 events remaining.
[01:54] <bradsnet> er the - sould be a 0
[01:54] <jhonyrod> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ok my problem is that i can't record with audacity and i've been trying with the audio settigs+microphone config. and it isn't working yet, do you know what can i do?
[01:55] <bradsnet> Oh and my card worked fine on windows.
[01:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhonyrod: Unfortunately, I don't. I don't usually use Audacity under Linux. You might want to try asking in #audacity
[01:55] <bradsnet> And kubuntu was working fantastic with the nv driver... I just wanted to try out a game with wine... now it seems I'm stuck.
[01:55] <stoney1> hello gus :)
[01:55] <stoney1> guys
[01:56] <bradsnet> My ubuntu livecd seems to be booting alright.
[01:56] <gaius> is there some magic way to make .runs work in kubuntu ?
[01:56] <NickPresta> bradsnet, lets do a sanity check. Have you installed nvidia-glx? Did you do `sudo nvidia-xconfig`? What are the specific errors?
[01:56] <bradsnet> gaius: sudo sh blah.run has worked for me....
[01:57] <gaius> ./file.run should have worked
[01:57] <gaius> as root
[01:57] <bradsnet> Nick.  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:57] <bradsnet> Dunno, but I know sudo works for me.
[01:57] <gaius> I know
[01:58] <gaius> but, I just used su
[01:58] <bradsnet> klobster: That's what I did.
[01:58] <gaius> and then I have root access without having to type sudo 58996978 times
[01:58] <bradsnet> sudo -i is the recommended way of doing that. Don't ask me why or what is different.
[01:58] <gaius> alright
[01:58] <gaius> I'm trying to install enemy-territory, for old time's sake
[01:59] <gaius> the sound won't work in gentoo :(
[01:59] <bradsnet> huh, my livecd locked up...
[01:59] <bradsnet> klobster: I did that and that is why it has nv now...
[02:00] <bradsnet> But it still doesn't work.
[02:00] <ctesibiusulpius> sigh
[02:00] <ctesibiusulpius> I think linux just hates me
[02:00] <bradsnet> Indeed.
[02:00] <bradsnet> I think nvidia hates me.
[02:00] <ctesibiusulpius> nvidia likes me
[02:00] <knoppix> im mmacking my grub but how do i get my kernel to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-4-486 ?
[02:00] <klobster> bradsnet: I saw that, I am still trying to decipher why that would break it.
[02:01] <klobster> did the livecd really lock up?
[02:01] <NickPresta> bradsnet, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=412797&postcount=6. Check the thread for more information.
[02:01] <bradsnet> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[02:01] <bradsnet> It could have been something from that.
[02:01] <klobster> where did that come from?
[02:01] <ctesibiusulpius> my kernel 2.6.22-7 has some weird issue with playing video files in kaffeine, so I'm forced to use 2.6.21-4 :(
[02:02] <bradsnet> Yeah I've done that NickPresta.
[02:02] <ctesibiusulpius> so, is this a "family" or however you word it channel?
[02:02] <bradsnet> klobster: I've posted that a few times now.
[02:02] <skkeeper> hey people
[02:02] <NickPresta> bradsnet, and you get no errors, etc? How strange. The card is supported and others have had it running successfully.
[02:02] <bradsnet> Okay, livecd working now, might have been dirty.
[02:02] <NickPresta> !hi | skkeeper
[02:02] <ubotu> skkeeper: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:02] <klobster> bradsnet: sorry, I meant when did you run that?
[02:02] <bradsnet> I know nick.
[02:03] <skkeeper> i have a problem with synaptic can anybody help me? im a totaly noob in linux
[02:03] <NickPresta> ctesibiusulpius, yes, this is a "family" channel.
[02:03] <bradsnet> klobster: Right before I ran the ones you sent me.
[02:03] <NickPresta> !ask | skkeeper
[02:03] <ubotu> skkeeper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:03] <ctesibiusulpius> I figured so
[02:03] <ctesibiusulpius> I'll keep it clean
[02:03] <skkeeper> lol
[02:03] <skkeeper> ok
[02:03] <ctesibiusulpius> is there a kubuntu-amd64 channel?
[02:04] <klobster> bradsnet: did you do this DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[02:04] <skkeeper> i installed second life... well the instalation crashed.. so i closed it...later i figure it that my synaptic doesnt open anymore... just pop out second life wasnt installed because it cant find its repository
[02:04] <skkeeper> and closes
[02:04] <halohunter> hello
[02:04] <sash__> hello
[02:04] <bradsnet> klobster: No, because it said to only do that if you have... uh, whatever it says, installed. I made sure it wasn't installed and didn't do that.
[02:04] <sash__> ^^
[02:04] <ctesibiusulpius> you know, this will make the second distro in two days I've just formatted over
[02:05] <skkeeper> :-(
[02:05] <klobster> bradsnet: ok, good, but if you uninstall the restricted drivers, is nv even installed at that point?
[02:05] <bradsnet> Heck if I know.
[02:05] <halohunter> is namol on
[02:05] <bradsnet> I don't know what they are. I'm just following instructions.
[02:06] <bradsnet> I've used kubuntu for only an hour or so longer than I've had this issue.
[02:07] <bradsnet> I used to use freebsd a while back... but that knowledge is pretty much useless except basic commands and such.
[02:07] <bradsnet> Most of these instructions seem to expect you to be at least a little psychic.
[02:07] <TraX> Does anybody know if Mono could be used to develop linux apps?
[02:07] <klobster> bradsnet: an hour!?! way to go for the big issues
[02:07] <bradsnet> Yeah, tell me about it.
[02:07] <klobster> TraX: can and is
[02:08] <bradsnet> Sadly that hour was spent installing and configuring other things.
[02:08] <TraX> Is it command line or could I do it right from MonoDevelop?
[02:09] <klobster> bradsnet: heh.  ok, well I guess you need to apt-get install nvidia-glx to get the nv driver back
[02:09] <TraX> Right now it only compiles for windows
[02:10] <bradsnet> That doesn't seem right.
[02:10] <bradsnet> nvidia-glx isn't nv.
[02:10] <klobster> TraX: mono is in the repos
[02:12] <bradsnet> Do you think I would have any different experience in ubuntu? All the instructions seem to be written for ubuntu, not kubuntu...
[02:13] <bradsnet> At the same time, I know the desktop manager is independent of X, and it's X with the issue... but the people saying it worked are all using ubuntu.
[02:13] <Anonymousguy> i've a problem whit my graphics card
[02:13] <bradsnet> Me too.
[02:13] <Anonymousguy> anybody can help me?
[02:14] <bradsnet> Is it an nvidia card?
[02:14] <Myr> what kimd of card is it
[02:14] <Anonymousguy> no, is a integrated card, is a VIA card
[02:14] <Myr> whats hte problem?
[02:14] <bradsnet> What is the issue?
[02:14] <sea> Theres a bug in Konversation
[02:15] <TraX> bradsnet: What video card are you running?
[02:15] <scheater5> Does anyone know about the state of the real time kernel in the gusty repos?
[02:15] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra
[02:15] <bradsnet> And yes I installed the binary drivers.
[02:15] <Anonymousguy> the resolution that Kubuntu displays is lower than it support
[02:15] <bradsnet> And followed the links on the howto and did that stuff.
[02:16] <screamx> anyone kno how to setup steam with wine i cant get it to wirk all the way
[02:16] <bradsnet> Hmm, I saw something about the resolution...
[02:16] <bradsnet> !resolution
[02:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <TraX> screamx: Did you install the font?
[02:16] <klobster> bradsnet: sorry, making dinner for my daughter.  I meant sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:17] <klobster> I cut and pasted the the wrong line
[02:17] <Anonymousguy> and in the prefferences settings i dont reconfig the resolution, because the graphic card that Kubuntu recognize is different
[02:18] <bradsnet> Running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh may fix that, you can select the appropriate driver, then "check" the resolutions you need it to support.
[02:18] <Anonymousguy> That recognize that i have a 'vesa' card an a 'plug n' play' monitor
[02:18] <bradsnet> Though, you might not want to listen to me I seem to break video settings.
[02:19] <klobster> bradsnet: brb.  btw, did you try the older version?
[02:19] <bradsnet> Of what? nvidia-glx-legacy?
[02:20] <sash__> hellow again guy's how change my graphic card driver. cant set to display parameters!
[02:21] <Anonymousguy> thanks very much
[02:21] <bradsnet> This may or may not work for you: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[02:21] <Anonymousguy> broadsnet
[02:21] <bradsnet> sure
[02:21] <klobster> there isn't a difference between ubuntu and kubuntu as far as this is concerned; we haven't even got to a point in the loader where it would be different
[02:21] <bradsnet> klobster: Yeah, that's what I said...
[02:22] <klobster> bradsnet: no, the older version I mailed you.
[02:22] <bradsnet> What do I know though?
[02:22] <bradsnet> oh, you mailed it?
[02:22] <klobster> yeah, but i wasn't sure if you still had the livecd up or not
[02:23] <bradsnet> looks like I already had that stuff installed you sent me a minute ago.
[02:23] <bradsnet> I do, I just rebooted to check that though, heh.
[02:23] <bradsnet> I gotta go to the grocery store in a few... so I think I have to stop for now.
[02:24] <bradsnet> Maybe I'll reinstall kubuntu again, and try each of these instructions from scratch.
[02:24] <TECKBW> anybody that can help with pppoe setup for adsl connection...there  is more than one Access Concentrator, and I would like to specify which one to use .... is this possible and how
[02:25] <bradsnet> I guess now I know not to install a bunch of software THEN try to get drivers working.
[02:25] <TECKBW> I use pppoeconf to setup, but when it dials, pppoeconf says that invalid username
[02:26] <bradsnet> klobster: The one thing I'm pretty confident of is that if I do reinstall I can get nv working again.
[02:26] <klobster> bradsnet: also, it shouldn't make a difference, but grep Load /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if dri is commented out, or not
[02:26] <klobster> bradsnet: thats true
[02:27] <bradsnet> dri is not commented out.
[02:27] <TECKBW> the username and password provided work on windows box, so it's all got to do with Access Concentrator, do I add a line to the dsl-provider file in /etc/ppp/peers/
[02:27] <TECKBW> and what would the line be??
[02:28] <bradsnet> Sorry teck, wish I knew.
[02:28] <klobster> dri should be commented out when running the nvidia drivers
[02:29] <klobster> sorry, my daughter is having a meltdown, I gotta go.
[02:29] <bradsnet> Thanks for trying.
[02:29] <bradsnet> I'll see what that does.
[02:29] <TECKBW> bradsnet-->many ppl stay with windows because of an issue with pppoe connections on linux, I am lucky as I have wifi router doing the dialing but am not always at home so need a way to connect via pppoe
[02:29] <TECKBW> anyone else that may have a clue
[02:30] <bradsnet> Goodnight.
[02:30] <anthronaut> TECKBW: I used to have issued with pppoe, but I haven't used a ppp connection for _years_...
[02:40] <teguh> hi my brother in all the world
[02:41] <s_> hiya people
[02:41] <s_> anyone know good place for oki drivers for linux
[02:41] <s_> ?
[02:41] <s_> I have an oki c3300n, cant find a driver listed, been to linux-printing.org
[02:41] <s_> no joy
[02:42] <Q-collective> s_: what is an oki?
[02:42] <s_> its a colour laser printer
[02:43] <s_> www.oki.co.uk
[02:43] <s_> or www.okidata.com
[02:43] <Q-collective> ah
[02:43] <s_> Ive even tried sharing a windows driver on a windows box, I expect driver to come over or at least be visable, but no joy
[02:44] <NickPresta> !enter | s_
[02:44] <ubotu> s_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:44] <s_> k dude
[02:44] <elite101> hello i need help
[02:44] <elite101> with something
[02:45] <elite101> its Ndiswrapper
[02:45] <NickPresta> elite101, hi. What seems to be the problem?
[02:45] <elite101> lol
[02:45] <NickPresta> lol
[02:45] <Arwen> Under Linux I can't increase the priority of a process without being root?
[02:45] <Q-collective> s_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358838
[02:45] <elite101> its not my problem its my friends he is switching to kubuntu and has a dlink and he needs to install Ndiswrapper through a tarball because the Dlink is his internetsource so he cant dowload it threw adpet *takes abreath*
[02:46] <Q-collective> seems your odds are against
[02:46] <elite101> now he has the Tarball and i dont know how to install things from a tarrball
[02:46] <andersin> Awen: Yes, and for a good reason: You do not want to starve the processes that are more important
[02:46] <elite101> how do you install Ndiswrapper from a tarrball?
[02:46] <fkm> elite101: Why didn't he just download the .deb file?
[02:47] <elite101> lol
[02:47] <elite101> well you see
[02:47] <elite101> nvm...where?
[02:47] <elite101> where is the debian file?
[02:47] <fkm> Give me a min
[02:47] <andersin> Awen: so you cannot simply increase your priority
[02:47] <s_> thats the trouble, I looked on usual places, and cant see one for download
[02:47] <elite101> okay thanks fkm, i never used Ndiswrapper b4 and i want him to switch to kubuntu
[02:48] <elite101> i got him into linux :D
[02:49] <NickPresta> I want to use libmtp 0.2.1 in Feisty. Where can I get the deb of libmtp 0.2.1 (for Gutsy)?
[02:49] <hydrogen> just install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:49] <hydrogen> in adept
[02:49] <hydrogen> or with aptitude
[02:49] <elite101> lol he doesnt have internet
[02:49] <hydrogen> gutsy deb's will most likely not work on feisty due to the toolchainges
[02:49] <hydrogen> oh :)
[02:50] <elite101> lol
[02:50] <fkm> elite101: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ <-- Should be the one
[02:50] <elite101> so apt-get is outta the picture
[02:50] <BluesKaj> elite101, what is the tarball's file xtn  .gz or bz2 ?
[02:50] <NickPresta> hydrogen, what do you suggest? libmtp 0.1.3 is quite old and it doesn't work with my device.
[02:50] <elite101> thanks fkm,
[02:50] <elite101> tar,gz
[02:50] <hydrogen> !info libmtp
[02:50] <ubotu> Package libmtp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:50] <NickPresta> libmtp5
[02:50] <NickPresta> !info libmtp5
[02:50] <hydrogen> !info libmtp6
[02:50] <ubotu> libmtp5: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 90 kB, installed size 312 kB
[02:50] <ubotu> Package libmtp6 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:50] <hydrogen> hmm
[02:51] <fkm> elite101: Just be aware that ndiswrapper is not the best way to go. I used it with a D-Link PCMCIA card. I can't really be sure. But I think it slowed down my system
[02:51] <elite101> fkm, errr wich one do i download? he has a 32bit i386 kubuntu 7.04 fiesty
[02:51] <hydrogen> !info libmtp5 feisty-backports
[02:51] <elite101> lol
[02:51] <ubotu> Package libmtp5 does not exist in feisty-backports
[02:51] <BluesKaj> elite101, tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz , then look in the file that's generated and you'll find a reame and an install text file , and follow the instructions
[02:51] <hydrogen> there goes that hope :)
[02:51] <elite101> is there an alternative to ndiswraooer
[02:51] <elite101> wrapper*
[02:51] <BluesKaj> readme file
[02:51] <hydrogen> elite101: are there no native linux drivers for his card?
[02:52] <elite101> err i hate doing work for other people
[02:52] <elite101> no
[02:52] <hydrogen> then there is no alternative
[02:52] <elite101> its a Dlink DWLG32 its a usb one
[02:52] <fkm> Id say: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.43-1ubuntu2_all.deb and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[02:52] <elite101> okay thanks
[02:52] <hydrogen> remember you also need the windows driver package
[02:52] <NickPresta> hydrogen, I'm going to see if I can get libmtp6 working in feisty. The only thing that depends on libmtp5 is amarok and libmtp5-dev.  Does that sound like it should work or are you certain it won't?
[02:52] <Q-collective> BluesKaj: actually, since tar 1.15 you don't need to explicitly say with what protocol to untar anymore. So tar xvf does the trick in any case.
[02:53] <BluesKaj> err elite101 .  If I decide to compile libmtp6 on my own, how would I get m system to recognize it and such? /usr/local/libmtp6?
[02:54] <hydrogen> assuming its a normal package
[02:54] <Q-collective> elite101: basically: apt-get install build-essentials, untar the tarball, cd into directory, ./configure && make, sudo make install
[02:54] <hydrogen> you would just ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[02:54] <Q-collective> done
[02:54] <elite101> lolo okay and how do i get the card working?
[02:55] <elite101> it just does it automatically?
[02:55] <NickPresta> hydrogen, libmtp5 is in /usr/lib. Should I move the .a/la/so files there?
[02:55] <hydrogen> NickPresta: no.. in theory /usr/local/lib should be in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH alreadyh
[02:55] <hydrogen> not sure about that though :)
[02:55] <elite101> i have no clue what to do
[02:55] <NickPresta> hydrogen, ah okay. Thanks
[02:55] <fkm> elite101: WLAN is nice. I've just never gotten the thing to work properly. Even with the integrated WLAN card in my Thinkpad T60 (with native drivers) I can only connect to the network when I'm in close proximity to the accesspoint...
[02:56] <elite101> mhm i should tell him to f*ck it and get Wired internet
[02:56] <elite101> :D
[02:56] <fkm> Heheh. Tell him that it's much faster ;) Just don't mention that this is only within his LAN ;)
[02:56] <sea> THE ANSWER IS 42
[02:56] <elite101> lol
[02:56] <fkm> Heheh
[02:56] <TECKBW> anyone else have any ideas to sort out the pppoe issue ...(needing to specify Access Concentrator)
[02:57] <elite101> he lives in an apt with wireless
[02:57] <swirrel> hi everyone have a webcam5 ? this one : http://i.play.tm/s/130/g/150/1.jpg? NEED help with it...
[02:57] <elite101> :D durr his sisters boyfriend dont know jack about computers
[02:57] <TraX> But what is the question sea?
[02:57] <elite101> there rooms are rite beside eachother
[02:57] <sea> The question is : "What is the ultimate answer?"
[02:58] <sash__> i m download a ati driver on ati.amd.com host. but cant control this graph card how remove this driver / driver name :ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64
[02:58] <fkm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything
[02:58] <elite101> yes
[02:58] <elite101> thanks
[02:58] <elite101> i will give that to him
[02:59] <TECKBW> no one here using pppoe to connect to the internet???
[02:59] <U238Willy> there are instructions for ndiswrapper.. i remember there were two commands after compiling..
[02:59] <NickPresta> hydrogen, now I have libmtp6 in /usr/local/lib and when I tried to install amarok again, libmtp5 is installed. How do I use libmtp6 instead of libmtp5?
[02:59] <NickPresta> aw =(
[02:59] <NickPresta> lol
[03:00] <elite101> i need a tutorial for ndiswrapper so this windows user can use Linux instead of getting screwed over my Microshaft XD
[03:01] <U238Willy> forgive me, but, this was on a suse machine at the time.. there were to commands.. ndiswrapper -l and i think ndiswrapper -m
[03:01] <U238Willy> *two
[03:01] <TECKBW> i take it that no one uses pppoe to connect to the internet!!
[03:02] <elite101> NO
[03:02] <elite101> WE DONT LIKE dsl/dial-up xD
[03:03] <U238Willy> the first was to see if  ndiswrapper had 'wrapped' the driver file.. and the second to place the wrapped driver into the bootup configurations.
[03:03] <TECKBW> so how would one connect to the internet???  when cable and wireless is not available?
[03:03] <U238Willy> there might have been a third.. ndiswrapper -i
[03:03] <arctanx> TECKBW: carrier pigeons
[03:03] <U238Willy> for info on ndiswrapper.
[03:03] <TECKBW> lol
[03:03] <arctanx> TECKBW: don't laugh, it's been done
[03:04] <elite101> !ndiswrapper
[03:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:04] <arctanx> TECKBW: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
[03:04] <TECKBW> i may be a noob, but hell not backwards
[03:04] <elite101> hey
[03:04] <elite101> i got one more question
[03:04] <TECKBW> arctanx thanks for the link, will b checking it out
[03:04] <arctanx> np
[03:05] <elite101> My friends Dlink does not have any power going to it at all in Network manager or anything like Kubuntu isnt powering it on will ndiswrapper even work? it wont turn on without the proper driver? how will you install a driver to a device thats not there? and power it on? can you tell me that my friend is screwed and to tell him to go to wired :D please
[03:06] <TECKBW> looks like i have to eat my hat....lol....didn't think it was a protocol
[03:08] <elite101> yes i told him he was screwed
[03:08] <elite101> no more help from me :D i told him to get wired and that i will drill the holes in his walls myself
[03:09] <BluesKaj> well, I sure hope gutsy 7.10 is more ATI friendly than the x86 version i just tried to install ...no X ! The 64bit version went ok but the email program in kontact is just too clunky and as far as konq goes as browser , there needs plenty of work to speed up loading on encrypted sites ...it was terrbly slow , despite disabling Ipv6.
[03:10] <erov> ... only 1 of my 4 processors is being discovered.. i knew something was up >:(
[03:11] <NickPresta> How can I get amarok to use a compiled libmtp6 over libmtp5? Do I need to compile my own version of amarok?
[03:12] <elite101> erov, only 4? i have 8 :D its a quad/quad MOBO
[03:12] <BluesKaj> which version NickPresta ?
[03:13] <NickPresta> I'm on Feisty and I needed libmtp6. I compiled libmtp6 myself but I also have libmtp5 installed (it's an amarok dependency).
[03:14] <BluesKaj> of amarok ?
[03:14] <NickPresta> 1.4.7
[03:18] <teguh>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  is freeze how to repair my linux in konsole
[03:21] <teguh> and my adept crash hi brother help yahhhh
[03:21] <elite101> !adeptfix | teguh
[03:21] <ubotu> teguh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:22] <|neon|> ? is it safe to use ttrevinos sources?
[03:22] <michael> can someone help me with an ati x1200 problem?
[03:22] <elite101> sorry if that was already said i just came back
[03:22] <elite101> holy problems
[03:23] <elite101> micheal, i can ditch the ATI and but a NVidia :D
[03:23] <r0ck3t3r> anyone rememeber the game pirates gold?
[03:23] <elite101> nope
[03:24] <teguh>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  if i use this command my konsole is freesh for along time
[03:24] <michael> elite101, i have nvidia on my desktop but my laptop has an integrated x1200  :(
[03:24] <elite101> Shhh....
[03:24] <r0ck3t3r> too bad, your all missing out
[03:24] <elite101> lol
[03:24] <BluesKaj> r0ck3t3r, this a kubuntu support channel ...want games ..google it
[03:24] <elite101> i know i have to problems you know why
[03:24] <elite101> Im running off the livecd
[03:25] <elite101> i have no HDD
[03:25] <r0ck3t3r> lol
[03:25] <michael> has anyone gotten kubuntu feisty installed with an x1200 ati card?
[03:25] <r0ck3t3r> ok how to get flash to work on a amd64, that thread i read dont work
[03:28] <BluesKaj> r0ck3t3r, if you want youtube towork on amd64 , try swiftfox browser
[03:29] <BluesKaj> and make sure you have java-common and j2re1.4 installed
[03:29] <ve6a> how can i run a program in another languager other then the default one
[03:30] <BluesKaj> as well as the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:31] <sanzanric> awn rocks!!!!
[03:31] <teguh> ubotu -> sudo fuser not work
[03:33] <BluesKaj> ve6a, system settings/regional&language/select system language
[03:33] <ve6a> i want to run once
[03:34] <modjo> hi, i have one question
[03:34] <modjo> regarding firefox java plugin
[03:36] <ve6a> BluesKaj: i want to run once from konsole or alt + f2
[03:36] <modjo> anybody had that type of troubles?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> modjo, what's your question?
[03:38] <raymond> is there a way to manually configure sound like there is to reconfigure X
[03:41] <BrightEyes`> anyone help me make my tv card work? when i "lspci" i get 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[03:43] <iskaldur> hi, my graphics card right now is an intel gma 3100, and compiz fusion doesn't really work too well on it...any suggestions on a graphics card that works well with kubuntu and compiz fusion? im looking for something pretty cheap, and i don't do graphics intensive stuff like games or anything...i just want compiz fusion working :)
[03:43] <modjo> blueskaj
[03:43] <BluesKaj> here , modjo
[03:43] <modjo> i want to view apps in java on mozilla, but doesnt seems to work, i have tried many things to configure it correctly
[03:44] <modjo> and i do see java apps in konqueror working
[03:44] <modjo> but not in mozilla
[03:45] <modjo> any toughts?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> modjo, have you considered firefox ?
[03:46] <modjo> im using firefox, my java plug in doesnt work for firefox
[03:47] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[03:47] <MarcC> how do I add a binary software package like Sauerbraten to my system so I can run it from anywhere?
[03:47] <BluesKaj> do you have java-common and j2re1.4 , modjo ?
[03:48] <modjo> im not sure due to many thins i added
[03:48] <modjo> lemme check
[03:48] <tekstacy> Somehow I "lost" the KNetworkManager icon from my system tray. How do I get it back?
[03:48] <ubuntu> I need help, O
[03:48] <ubuntu> I'm on kubuntu live, and i need to get some files off of my hard drive
[03:48] <NickPresta> tekstacy, right click > Add Applet > find knetworkmanager
[03:48] <modjo> tekstacy just use katapult
[03:48] <ubuntu> i get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[03:48] <modjo> and launch it again
[03:49] <NickPresta> tekstacy, oh. I was thinking of knetload. sorry about that
[03:49] <modjo> blueskaj: youre right, i dont hhave j2re1.4
[03:50] <tekstacy> How does Katapuly work?
[03:50] <inaety> whatexactly is katapult
[03:50] <tekstacy> er Katapult
[03:50] <NickPresta> !info katapult
[03:50] <modjo> tekstace pres CTRL + spacebar
[03:50] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 326 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[03:50] <modjo> and type knetwork
[03:50] <inaety> so katapult = alt+f2?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> modjo, I'm not sure that will solve your prob, but it did for me
[03:51] <Biovore> katapult should be alt-space
[03:51] <modjo> bluskaj theress j2re1.4 and j2re1.4 mozilla plug in
[03:51] <kubuntu-live-hal> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu live and the board is on the fritz, I luckliy got it to POST but I can't access the Windows 2000 hard drive. I get this error when mounting. hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[03:51] <modjo> im gonna install the mozilla plug in
[03:51] <Biovore> inaety: shift space.. then type in am
[03:51] <Biovore> (alt space)
[03:51] <anonymousguy> hey, i tried to modify my video config and now i can't see anything when i boot Kubuntu, until the command prompt, what i need to do?
[03:51] <inaety> dang kansas state...
[03:52] <modjo> downloading
[03:52] <anonymousguy> i'm running the live CD
[03:52] <inaety> Biovore: just predicts it for ya
[03:52] <anonymousguy> but in need to solve that
[03:52] <Biovore> yup.. you can also type in number and it acts like a calculator
[03:52] <inaety> anonymousguy: if you are just running the livecd just restart your computer
[03:52] <anonymousguy> no, you understand me
[03:53] <inaety> anonymousguy: you installed kubuntu, but it doesnt start, so you know you put in the cd?
[03:53] <kubuntu-live-hal> i think he is running on live cd because he messed up his video config
[03:53] <inaety> err what was the xorgconfig thing for ubuntu
[03:54] <modjo> blueskaj: installing...
[03:54] <anonymousguy> i was trying to modify my graphic card config, but when i restart the x server i can't see amything, until the command prompt
[03:54] <anonymousguy> and now i'm running the live cd trying to solve that
[03:55] <modjo> testing
[03:55] <anonymousguy> kubuntu-live-hal: you're right
[03:55] <tekstacy> someone type my nick please.....
[03:56] <TraX> tekstacy:
[03:56] <inaety> anonymousguy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <inaety> and then configure it
[03:56] <modjo> blueskaj
[03:56] <modjo> nope didnt work, but now theres something a little bit different
[03:56] <BluesKaj> tekstacy
[03:56] <tekstacy> thanks, vocal works now...
[03:56] <anonymousguy> ok, i'll try that, but i need to restart, thanx
[03:57] <michael> can someone help me with a video card issue?
[03:57] <modjo> theres an app in java with the X
[03:57] <inaety> anonymousguy: okay
[03:57] <tekstacy> Katapult is alt-space, but what do I do with it then?
[03:57] <inaety> tekstacy: type something!
[03:57] <modjo> tekstace: type knetwork
[03:57] <modjo> and then ENTER
[03:57] <BluesKaj> modjo, in the browser addressbar type about:plugins ...check what's installed
[03:58] <anonymousguy> anyone know if this sever has a spanish-speak channel
[03:58] <tekstacy> Ok, I beleive it is running, but it still isn't showing in the tray. any ideas?
[03:58] <Biovore> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:59] <modjo> blueskaj theres a lot of thing installed
[03:59] <anonymousguy> gracias
[03:59] <modjo> Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.2-02
[03:59] <modjo> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0-b105
[03:59] <Biovore> why use blackdown..  use sun's
[03:59] <BluesKaj> flash ?
[03:59] <modjo> also but i dont thinks its relevant
[04:00] <modjo> Shockwave Flash
[04:00] <modjo> File name: libflashplayer.so
[04:00] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree..think i already mentioned that tho
[04:01] <modjo> i dont understand you, i do have the flash plugin
[04:01] <modjo> suffix swl and spl
[04:01] <BluesKaj> the nonfree version
[04:02] <modjo> i dont have that
[04:02] <modjo> do i neet ir?
[04:02] <modjo> it?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:04] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree
[04:04] <modjo> wait lemme request it
[04:06] <modjo> blueskaj: testing
[04:06] <penba> Hi. How could I go about configuring xorg for a monitor that has been rotated 270 or 90 degrees?
[04:07] <MarcC> you just add the xrandrotate or whatever it's called to xorg.conf, then the pref is inside configuration when you restart X
[04:07] <modjo> it WORKED!!!!
[04:07] <penba> thanks
[04:08] <BluesKaj> glad to hear it , modjo :)
[04:08] <modjo> blueskaj: it worked, but i also downloaded some more things i wound quering with mozilla in adept manager
[04:08] <modjo> thaks a lot for the support
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ur welcome :)
[04:09] <modjo> talk you laters :D take care :D
[04:11] <tekstacy> A?nyone know how to restore my KNetworkManager to the system tray
[04:11] <flaccid> tekstacy: run the program knetworkmanager
[04:11] <Aondo> ***MEMORY-ERROR***: firestarter[3020] : GSlice: assertion failed: sinfo->n_allocated > 0, doesnt sound good :P
[04:11] <michael> can anyone help me with ati x1200?
[04:11] <tekstacy> it doesn't do anything. It is already running
[04:11] <wers> for k3b, what package do I install to have the mp3 decoder plugin
[04:11] <flaccid> !ati | michael
[04:11] <ubotu> michael: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:12] <wers> !mp3
[04:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <flaccid> tekstacy: ah well
[04:12] <tekstacy> thanks anyway though.
[04:12] <michael> ubotu: i dont think they could help me, my problem is that i cant install ubuntu feisty cause of my video card... it cant load x server
[04:13] <flaccid> tekstacy: i would help further, but there are numerous problems with knetworkmanager/networkmanager . is your network working?
[04:13] <tekstacy> yup
[04:13] <michael> lol ubotu's a bot
[04:13] <flaccid> tekstacy: that condition seems to be common
[04:13] <tekstacy> Is there something BETTER then KNetwork?
[04:13] <flaccid> tekstacy: do you have wireless?
[04:14] <tekstacy> yes
[04:14] <tekstacy> Seems to be conected
[04:14] <flaccid> um knetworkmanager is actually the best
[04:14] <flaccid> when it works
[04:14] <Arkard> Hola a todos
[04:14] <flaccid> !info kwireless
[04:14] <ubotu> Package kwireless does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:14] <Arkard> Hi everybody
[04:14] <erz-> just a question, i'm formating a primary partition (windows xp) for installing kubuntu (10g), i have a second logic partition on the same disk. Could i read data on it after formating the primary partition ? thx :  )
[04:14] <flaccid> can't remember the other ones, but they are not any better. knetworkmanager is just a frontend to networkmanager but there are lots of issues
[04:15] <Arkard> i need some help please
[04:15] <flaccid> tekstacy: i think there is knetworkstats if you want just an icon
[04:15] <Arkard> i want to install an Nvidia MX 4000
[04:15] <Arkard> But i cant close the X server
[04:15] <Arkard> can anybody help me plz
[04:15] <flaccid> Arkard: ctrl + alt + bckspc to kill X
[04:16] <michael> if i install a video card driver for edgy do i have to install a new one if i upgrade to feisty?
[04:16] <Arkard> let me try plz
[04:16] <MarcC> michael, probably not especially if you use drivers from the repos
[04:16] <flaccid> !find knetstats
[04:17] <ubotu> Found: knetstats
[04:17] <flaccid> tekstacy: http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/
[04:17] <flaccid> !info knetstats
[04:17] <ubotu> knetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB
[04:17] <flaccid> its a monitor only
[04:17] <erz-> i'm not sure about the abilities to read a ntfs locgical partition
[04:17] <flaccid> erz-: ability exists
[04:17] <erz-> i dont want to loose the 180Gb of data on the second partition
[04:18] <michael> MarcC, do i need a certain repo? i have an x1200 card and i cant install feisty on it (x server wont load) so i have to install edgy
[04:18] <erz-> thats just 10Gb 8 for system 2 for swap and keep my data
[04:19] <wers> I have installed libxine1-ffmpeg but I still cannot burn mp3s
[04:20] <flaccid> erz-: np
[04:20] <tekstacy> knetstats looks cool, I will use it, thanks flaccid
[04:21] <flaccid> cool
[04:21] <erz-> flaccid: in fact i have to format the 10gb before creating / & swap ?
[04:21] <flaccid> !format
[04:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:21] <Arkard> Im back
[04:22] <Arkard> Sorry but ctrl + alt + backspace is for restart
[04:22] <flaccid> if you are installing erz- use the installer program it not use qtparted to create new parts/fs
[04:22] <flaccid> Arkard: what do you want to do
[04:22] <Arkard> close the X server
[04:23] <flaccid> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop from a tty
[04:23] <Arkard> i need it to install a Video Card
[04:23] <flaccid> you usually turn off the computer to put a video card in
[04:23] <Arkard> what is a tty, sorry i just start in Linux a few days ago
[04:23] <erz-> i have just only a kubuntu edgy cd, my dvdwiter jus died
[04:23] <flaccid> Arkard: hold ctrl + alt + f2
[04:23] <Arkard> ah, right
[04:24] <Arkard> and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:24] <Arkard> K, let me try
[04:25] <michael> my live cd wont boot to xserver on my laptop. can someone help?
[04:25] <erz-> i fear :q
[04:25] <awake> XD
[04:26] <BluesKaj> michael , which cd ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> version
[04:26] <michael> feisty
[04:26] <erz-> flaccid: i dont understand well your answer i have to use the Kubuntu installer ?
[04:27] <flaccid> erz-: what exactly are you doing
[04:27] <michael> BluesKaj: feisty doesnt work but edgy boots up though. i think its a video card problem. i have ati x1200
[04:28] <erz-> i want to format my ntfs primary partition and wont loose data on the logical disk...
[04:28] <MarcC> michael: you can use the VESA driver if you just need X. It's much easier to get full graphics card support after you've installed the distro to your HD.
[04:28] <elite101> Hey i just went out and bought 2 Nvidia's 8800GTX (im on my PCI card) and it has the SLI clip on them but how do i set it up on kubuntu for both of them to work?
[04:28] <flaccid> erz-: use qtparted and format it. any filesystem you format will loose all data on that partition, but the other partitions will remain intact
[04:29] <elite101> :P obv im just kidding
[04:29] <michael> MarcC: im new to this. i have only used envy to install driver but it didnt work this time. do i install edgy then vesa from repo then try to update?
[04:29] <tekstacy> screw it, I'll just keep stealing the neighbor's wireless for the night....
[04:29] <BluesKaj> ok, the ati cards have been a prob (I have one too) with some kubuntus , it's kinda hit or miss ...wasn't able to use the latest gutsy x86 , but the 64bit version worked.
[04:29] <erz-> i cant use qtparted cause i have just one cd with edgy and my dvd-writer died :D
[04:30] <michael> BluesKaj, what ati card u have. i might try the 64 bit version then
[04:30] <flaccid> erz-: use the edgy cd. all you have to do is install the qtparted package
[04:32] <BluesKaj> michael ,on board X200G...but i don't recommend the 64 bit version, it's not ready for prime time
[04:32] <BluesKaj> I reverted back to x86 fiesty
[04:33] <Arwen> can anyone recommend a system monitor app? On GNOME I had Gkrellm, is there something like that for KDE?
[04:34] <flaccid> !ksysguard
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <flaccid> !info ksysguard
[04:34] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.2 (feisty), package size 508 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[04:34] <Arwen> no, not ksysguard
[04:34] <flaccid> what do you want to monitor?
[04:34] <Arwen> something that floats around on my desktop
[04:34] <flaccid> um there are some, can't remember their names sorry
[04:34] <Arwen> CPU usage, memory, net usage, stuff like that
[04:34] <erz-> its done i'm installing... well i well see =). I have kde on the laptop and i want to try xfce. What i have to do first upgrade to feisty or moving to xfce ?
[04:35] <Arkard> Im back again
[04:35] <Arkard> This is a Headache
[04:35] <tekstacy> ok, I don't have the learning time in my life for this. I'm going back to XP
[04:36] <Arkard> so, at last i can close the X server
[04:36] <Arkard> but i cant install the Driver
[04:36] <Arkard> Tell me something about i dont have kernel
[04:36] <Arkard> or something like that
[04:36] <Arkard> can anybody help me again T_T?
[04:38] <Arkard> a little help please T_T
[04:39] <TraX> Arkard: What driver/card?
[04:39] <MarcC> michael: the way I do it is, I install from the CD, then get at least vesa working (you don't need to install vesa, just type it in under the driver name or select it in the x configurator). Then I run Envy or ideally install nvidia-glx from synaptic (I have nvidia).
[04:39] <Arkard> Nvidia GForce MX 4000
[04:40] <TraX> Which nvidia driver are you trying to install?
[04:40] <BluesKaj> Envy works on fiesty ?
[04:40] <Arkard> let me see
[04:41] <Arkard> one i downloaded from Nvidia website
[04:41] <Arkard> is suppose to be a Linux Driver
[04:41] <Arkard> is .run
[04:41] <Biovore> yup..
[04:41] <TraX> What problem are you having exactly
[04:41] <flaccid> erz-: just install the xfce package
[04:42] <Biovore> Arkard: to install that version of the nvidia driver you will need to install the following packages..  build-essential and kernel-headers
[04:42] <flaccid> erz-: probably install xubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <erz-> and remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[04:42] <michael> MarcC, what do u mean by just type it in under the driver name or select it in the x configurator?
[04:42] <Biovore> erz-: you can have both :-)
[04:42] <flaccid> erz-: have both. select which one you want on login screen for desktop environment
[04:43] <erz-> i have low space :)
[04:44] <flaccid> im on a livecd heh coz my hdd is broken heh
[04:46] <MarcC> michael: when you install Ubuntu it's got an X-server configuration utility, you just tell it to use vesa if you can't get your video card driver to work. Failing that, you can just type "vesa" in xorg.conf under the driver name.
[04:47] <Arkard> sorry TraX, i was DC for a moment
[04:48] <TraX> Arkard: S'ok, what exact problem is the NVIDIA binary giving you right now>?
[04:48] <michael> MarcC, sorry for being noobish but how do i find out what driver to get out of synaptic for radeon x1200
[04:48] <Arkard> that i dont have kernel or something like that
[04:48] <Arkard> that cant found the kernel
[04:48] <TraX> Arkard: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:49] <TraX> Arkard: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[04:49] <flaccid> should follow the wiki for this Arkard
[04:49] <Arkard> let me try
[04:49] <flaccid> michael: fglrx probably
[04:49] <flaccid> !ati | michael
[04:49] <ubotu> michael: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <wckdkl0wn> what would i use to convert xvid to dvd in kubuntu?
[04:52] <flaccid> !dvdauthoring
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdauthoring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <TraX> wckdkl0wn: DeVeDe
[04:53] <flaccid> wckdkl0wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDAuthoring?highlight=%28dvd%29
[04:53] <BluesKaj> tovid
[04:53] <flaccid> options on that page
[04:53] <Arkard> i cant download the kernel-headers TraX
[04:54] <flaccid> wckdkl0wn: also see if any of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dvd&titlesearch=Titles are of any use
[04:55] <michael> flaccid, can i install fglrx from the repos or do i have to do all the command line work?
[04:55] <flaccid> michael: either
[04:55] <raynerd> guys, noob question - when I install a program, where does it show up?
[04:55] <raynerd> i.e where can i access it from?
[04:56] <michael> so i just click on fglrx from the repo and thats it?
[04:56] <raynerd> I`ve installed gchemical, but cant see it to open it anywhere
[04:56] <flaccid> michael: you will need to configure X to use that drive once its installed
[04:56] <sumguy231> raynerd: Try using KAppfinder, it finds new applications and lets you add them to the K menu
[04:57] <flaccid> raynerd: probably need to run the command gchemical
[04:57] <michael> flaccid, how do i do that. sorry, im a noob
[04:57] <flaccid> michael: please follow the wiki, thats what it is there for
[04:57] <raynerd> in terminal?
[04:57] <flaccid> Arkard: maybe its sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[04:58] <flaccid> raynerd: or from kmenu | run
[04:58] <michael> ill give it a try
[04:58] <sumguy231> raynerd: I should also mention that if you want to add it to the menu manually you can right-click on the k menu button and click' menu editor'.
[04:58] <raynerd> sunguy: will try
[04:59] <raynerd> whats K menu ?
[04:59] <sumguy231> The main menu, with a K on it.
[04:59] <sumguy231> on the button I mean
[04:59] <Arkard> flaccid what is `uname -r`?
[05:00] <TraX> Arkard: Go to console and type uname -r
[05:00] <sumguy231> Arkard - it's a command that displays your kernel version. the backticks insert it into the apt-get command so to speak
[05:00] <raynerd> ahhh bummer , i`m in kbuntu , im running edubuntu
[05:00] <flaccid> Arkard: kernel version
[05:00] <flaccid> i have to go, cyas
[05:00] <encom> hola
[05:00] <sumguy231> raynerd: Err, which desktop are you using? Could you clarify a bit? If it's Gnome you can still edit the menu with alacarte.
[05:00] <encom> hola
[05:00] <Arkard> it says 2.6.20-15-386
[05:01] <Arkard> que onda encom
[05:01] <encom> hola pana y o de venezuela
[05:01] <encom> testeandeubuntu
[05:01] <encom> OSEA MI PRUIMERA VEZ EN LINUX  JEJEJE
[05:01] <Arkard> ah
[05:01] <raynerd> sumguy231: i`m running edubuntu but not sure which desktop interface!! i`m new, only installed yesterday and learning
[05:01] <encom> ARKARD
[05:01] <Arkard> still cant download that header
[05:02] <encom> DE DODNDE ERES
[05:02] <Arkard> encom, permiteme que tengo problemas para instalar mi tarjeta de video
[05:02] <Arkard> soy de Nicaragua
[05:02] <encom> OK
[05:02] <encom> BIEN
[05:02] <michael> raynerd, sumguy231 left channel
[05:02] <sumguy231> raynerd: what does it look like? If there are applications, places, and system menus it's gnome. If there's a K it's kde.
[05:03] <sumguy231> And I'm back.
[05:03] <michael> or not
[05:03] <Arkard> i read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto but did not help
[05:04] <encom> UNA PREG PARA CUANDETSES  DESOCUPADO  ARKAD
[05:04] <raynerd> sumguy231: it GNOME then
[05:04] <Arkard> claro
[05:04] <encom> TENGO  UN  USB  WIRELES   LINKSIS
[05:04] <Arkard> TraX this is a big Problem or im very stupid
[05:04] <raynerd> so just added loads of software but cant see any of it
[05:04] <sumguy231> Press alt+f2 and run 'alacarte'. This will let you edit the menu and add an entry for whatever you installed. I'm sure there's a nice way to do it like with kappfinder, but I don't use Gnome so I wouldn't know. If you want mroe gnome help try #ubuntu
[05:05] <encom> Y BUENO COMO SOY NUEVO    EN LINUX
[05:05] <raynerd> ok cheers
[05:05] <TraX> Arkard: It's a very annoying problem, I'm looking up the exact syntax you need to get this going
[05:05] <sumguy231> or #edubuntu
[05:05] <encom> Q PROGRAMA ME RECOMIENDAS
[05:05] <Arkard> Thanks TraX
[05:05] <sumguy231> alright, I'll be back later.
[05:05] <Arkard> Programa de que?
[05:05] <encom> Q MANEJE
[05:05] <encom> EL WIFI
[05:06] <Arkard> Mmmm, desde linux Supongo
[05:06] <encom> SIP
[05:06] <Arkard> Permiteme, ya te digo
[05:06] <encom> LEY POR ALLI Q HAY UNO Q DESBLOQUEA LAS SENALES Q ESTN EN WEP
[05:06] <encom> OK
[05:06] <Biovore> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:07] <Arkard> encom kwifimanager
[05:07] <Arkard> wifi-radar
[05:07] <encom> OK
[05:08] <encom> OK OTRA CISITA  MAS
[05:08] <encom> AVECES BAJO  UN PROGRAMA Y  NO SE COMO INSTALARLO
[05:08] <encom> TODOS LOS PROGRAMAS DE LINUX
[05:08] <Arkard> mira, hay un programa que se llama Adept
[05:08] <encom> SE INSTALAN POR CONSOLA
[05:08] <Arkard> esta en sistema
[05:08] <Arkard> ahi busca adept
[05:09] <encom> OK
[05:09] <Arkard> y desde ahi instalas todo de manera facil
[05:09] <Arkard> Hey TraX, have to go for now
[05:09] <DrWilcock> no para todos
[05:09] <Arkard> can you send me an email?
[05:10] <TraX> Arkard: I just found it
[05:10] <Arkard> really?
[05:10] <Arkard> tell me
[05:10] <TraX> Arkard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:10] <Arkard> im going to save it an readi it later, thanks TraX
[05:10] <Arkard> encom, me voy
[05:10] <Arkard> te veo luego
[05:11] <encom> OK GRACIAS
[05:11] <TraX> Arkard: Hasta luego
[05:11] <encom> MAN
[05:11] <encom> ESE ADEP Q HACE
[05:11] <TraX> Arkard: Be sure to read it, it will help a lot
[05:11] <Arkard> K, thanks again
[05:13] <encom> ALGUIEN  Q ME DIGA  Q HACE EL ADEPT
[05:15] <encom> HOLA
[05:16] <encom> ALGUIEN AQUI
[05:16] <encom> HEYYYYYYYYYYYY
[05:17] <encom> I NEED HELP
[05:18] <encom> HOLA
[05:19] <encom> HOLA
[05:19] <encom> HELP
[05:19] <encom> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[05:20] <NickPresta> !patience | encom
[05:20] <ubotu> encom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:21] <bionic> how do you use john the ripper
[05:22] <encom> OK  THNAKS  UBOTU
[05:22] <milardovich> jtr suks :S
[05:22] <milardovich> it gives u a lot of "possible ways"
[05:22] <milardovich> and no one is the right :P
[05:25] <encom>    K
[05:32] <bionic> can someoen tell me how tot install and use john the ripper
[05:35] <sea> How do I put sourceforge on synaptic?
[05:38] <erz-> lol i go in 1280x1024 and nothing apperas on the screen
[05:50] <josiah> im in remote places -> samba shares... i see the network.. i go into the network and i see the computer i want to access but when i try to go into that it gives me a connection error? what am i doing wrong?
[05:51] <josiah> never mind it was firewall
[05:52] <vbgunz> how do you encrupt a password using md5sum? without passing it a file?
[05:55] <vbgunz> currently, I say md5sum <enter> write out text and before hitting enter hit Ctrl+D twice... is this how it should be done? the returned password is correct when compared to pythons hashlib md5 method
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Is KDE.org down?
[05:55] <vbgunz> I just dont understand what passing a single - to read from stdin mean. "md5sum - text" produces nothing :/
[05:57] <sumguy231> DaSkreech: No.
[05:58] <encom> #kubuntuesp
[05:59] <encom> #kubuntues
[05:59] <DaSkreech> sumguy231: Ah My ISP sucks then
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !us
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:00] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: - is a special file
[06:00] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: which means the keyboard
[06:00] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: not sure how to use it :/
[06:01] <vbgunz> I thought it would read what I wrote after it, e.g., md5sum - hi -> 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b
[06:02] <Biovore> echo "hi" | md5sum
[06:03] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: No not like that at all :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Biovore is on the right track
[06:03] <vbgunz> Biovore: that doesn't work, I tried it :(
[06:03] <Biovore> echo "hi" > md5sum ?
[06:04] <vbgunz> not that
[06:04] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: it's used for commands that expect a file but you want to use stdin instead
[06:04] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: What are you trying to do?
[06:04] <vbgunz> Biovore: that second one returns nothing
[06:04] <Biovore> rgr
[06:04] <Biovore> I done it before.. I forgot what it is..
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Biovore first one was right
[06:05] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: What are you trying to do?
[06:05] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: I just realized I cannot do it, am trying to password protect grub and thought I needed md5crypt but it turns out it is available within interactive grub
[06:05] <Biovore> oh yeah..  forgot the -
[06:05] <Biovore> echo "hi" | md5sum -
[06:05] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: So problem solved?
[06:05] <vbgunz> Biovore: thats not it either
[06:06] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: yeah :)
[06:06] <vbgunz> I didn't realize to create the password, I needed to go into interactive grub first, I thought I needed to download something but knew about md5crypt
[06:06] <vbgunz> sorry, md5sum*
[06:07] <vbgunz> it turns out, md5scrypt churns out completely different data so it's not really turning it into an md5 hash
[06:07] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Learnign is fun
[06:07] <jcs7778> I have a file that i need to execute in the terminal. I cd ed into the directory it is in and ./myfile -many many options and got a return of unable to execute ./myfile: permission denied. I already checked to make sure that i have execution privleages andI think i do. My ls -l lists -rwxrwxrwx for the file in questiono.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> speeling is too!
[06:08] <vbgunz> Biovore: btw, when you get the md5 hash to hi it should be 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b ;)
[06:08] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: thanks :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> 764efa883dda1e11db47671c4a3bbd9e
[06:08] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: it should start with the 4
[06:08] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: Righto what's the name of said file?
[06:08] <Biovore> 764efa883dda1e11db47671c4a3bbd9e <-- I get that as the md5sum for hi
[06:09] <vbgunz> hi without quotes
[06:09] <Biovore> that is..
[06:09] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: the shell strips the quotes
[06:09] <jcs7778> make_fw it's used in putting ipod linux on an ipod
[06:09] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: and it's permissions are 777 ?
[06:09] <vbgunz> md5sum <enter> hi <Ctrl+D> <Ctrl+D> -> 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b
[06:09] <vbgunz> pythons hashlib md5 also returns the same
[06:10] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: yeah, i ran a chmod 777 make_fw
[06:11] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Silly
[06:11] <vbgunz> ?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: it's md5sum <enter>hi<enter><Ctrl+D>
[06:12] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: that too returns something different ;)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: try sh make_fw
[06:12] <vbgunz> I think it adds in the new line :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Yes I think it returns our answer which makes us right :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Join the majority !! :)
[06:13] <vbgunz> heh, as long as it is the above ^49.+3b$ version, yeah, we're right :)
[06:14] <vbgunz> heh
[06:14] <jcs7778> DaSkreech:  that just output another error "make_fw: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[06:15] <DaSkreech> hmm
[06:15] <DaSkreech> ./make_fw gives you the same error?
[06:16] <jcs7778> DaSkreech:  no, ./ gives me a permission denied error
[06:16] <DrWilcock> if i get a link to youtube may i get sued on MPAA?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> DrWilcock: You can be sued by the MPAA For getting up this morning
[06:17] <DrWilcock> that sucks
[06:17] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: funky Who owns the file?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hiya!
[06:19] <jcs7778> DaSkreech:  If it's any help i'm trying to follow this how to "http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux" I'm at the part Kernel Instellation. I also just ran chown myusername make_fw. I should own it.
[06:21] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: does it have any pictures?
[06:21] <jgoss> jcs7778, try chmod +x on the file. maybe it doesn't have executable permissions. sorry if thats already been suggested.
[06:22] <jcs7778> I've also tried executing the file as root using sudo. After running chmod +x make_fw I still get the same error
[06:23] <anonymousguy> listo
[06:24] <vbgunz> brb, need to test grub :|
[06:25] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[06:25] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:26] <soulrider> hello :)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: try sudo su then run it
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hi soulrider
[06:28] <jcs7778> Nope.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> blast
[06:28] <soulrider> hi DaSkreech
[06:28] <soulrider> !xorg
[06:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:28] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: are you sur the file isn't corrupted
[06:29] <jcs7778> I have no idea, i can try downloading another copy. But actually I know i've had this problem with other executibles on this system
[06:30] <DaSkreech> ...
[06:30] <DaSkreech> NEVER RESOLVED THEM?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Whoops
[06:32] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: I think i'm gonna log off and re-boot into debian perhapse a different operating system would do it?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: Maybe come back and let me know that sounds like your bash needs to reinstall
[06:34] <tekstacy_> 'lo all
[06:36] <DaSkreech> hi
[06:36] <tekstacy> How does Fedora comare to Kubuntu?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: too broad a question
[06:37] <tekstacy> er compare even
[06:38] <tekstacy> Does Fedora use KDE?
[06:38] <sumguy231> tekstacy: Nope, Gnome by default.
[06:39] <tekstacy> Do you think Fedora is worth the hassle to try?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> sumguy231: not true
[06:39] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: starting with 7 you can download the KDE Cd or the Gnome CD
[06:40] <DaSkreech> so there is no default just like debian or Gentoo you build it as you see fit
[06:40] <sumguy231> Oh, my bad. I didn't know that about Fedora 7.
[06:40] <tekstacy> still kind of new to this "build it" is sketchy for me
[06:40] <DaSkreech> however to back up sumguy231 They really really like Gnome so the last time I saw fedora (two relelases ago) the KDE desktop looked exactly like a Gnome desktop
[06:41] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: you make the choice when you install
[06:41] <DaSkreech> If you want KDE you click and you have KDE instead of GNOME
[06:41] <nixternal> DaSkreech: and the KDE desktop still does...with their retro 1980 bluecurve icons :)
[06:42] <sumguy231> It seems like they always use Gnome for their demo screenshots. Heck, I don't think I've even seen any KDE Fedora users around. :)
[06:42] <sumguy231> Do they even exist?
[06:42] <nixternal> yup
[06:42] <sumguy231> Or are they some kind of myth?
[06:42] <nixternal> probably just their developers :)
[06:42] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hi!
[06:42] <nixternal> oi oi Hobbsee
[06:42] <Hobbsee> hiya nixternal
[06:43] <drkfce> I have a dual boot machine, with windows and Kubuntu, and while the router works properly in windows, ubuntu will not recieve an IP, static or not.  I've tried ifconfig down and dhclient.  Is there anything else I can do?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> nixternal: You are running 7 ?
[06:43] <nixternal> not any more
[06:43] <DaSkreech> nixternal: KDe of course
[06:43] <nixternal> umm, ;p
[06:44] <nixternal> my only gnome system right now is foresight
[06:44] <tekstacy> Gnome seemed a bit childish-like, like osx
[06:44] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: If you are iffy I would say hang out at both IRC chans and forums and see which one is friendlier and more in tune with you
[06:44] <nixternal> and I don't even boot it anymore
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Although if you strongly want KDE I would think that Kubuntu is more your stepping stone
[06:44] <nixternal> drkfce: you are using ethernet or wifi?
[06:44] <drkfce> ethernet
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Course I'm >slightly< biased
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[06:45] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:45] <DaSkreech> that's right ubotu that's right
[06:45] <drkfce> well, wifi can be ethernet, so wired would be a better answer :P
[06:45] <nixternal> drkfce: odd, do you know what the net card is?
[06:45] <drkfce> onboard
[06:45] <sumguy231> drkfce: Do an lspci and see if you see your ethernet card there.
[06:45] <drkfce> nic
[06:45] <sumguy231> drkfce: Or in this case onboard chipset.
[06:46] <drkfce> Wish I could copy and paste the answer, but it seems taht lspci sees the port
[06:46] <drkfce> ifconfig shows the port too
[06:46] <nixternal> drkfce: what does knetworkmanager show in the system tray?
[06:47] <demonspork> the P key isn't working at all in ubuntu unless I use it with Shift+P.  I need helP, and I have tried USB, and PS/2 keyboards, changing the X keyboard settings, everything, but it just won't work
[06:47] <drkfce> it has wired network, but it is grayed out
[06:47] <nixternal> I wouldn't put it past networkmangler
[06:47] <sumguy231> drkfce: What exactly happens when you try ifconfig eth0 up? No dhcp offers received? What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[06:47] <tekstacy> how do I check hdd usage?
[06:48] <sumguy231> tekstacy: df -h
[06:48] <drkfce> it tries dhcp 3 times, then it sleeps
[06:48] <drkfce> when i do dhclient
[06:48] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: df -h if you aer a human
[06:48] <DaSkreech> are
[06:48] <drkfce> when I do ifconfig eth0 up, it says nothing, acting like it worked
[06:48] <sumguy231> But don't use the '-h' option if you're a robot or something. ;)
[06:48] <tekstacy> :)   human = uses cli?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[06:49] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: Ha ha :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Is worth making into a "ShowDisks" alias
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: after about a year you will love teh CLi
[06:50] <DaSkreech> it's fast and does what you want it to with very very little compromise
[06:50] <drkfce> I love keyboard shortcuts
[06:50] <sumguy231> drkfce: I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around that.  Never mind that request.
[06:51] <drkfce> actually, I just changed it from static to dhcp, and I'm getting a 169.254 address
[06:51] <drkfce> isn't that the default address given when it isn't working?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> drkfce: yeah
[06:52] <DaSkreech> cause you know you need 12 million Ips just to say you are not on the internet
[06:53] <flaccid> if dhclient doesn't get an offer, it will sleep and it usually indicates the dhcp server not responding if network is correctly connected
[06:53] <drkfce> Maybe I can directly connect it from my modem, update the OS, and maybe there will be a fix
[06:54] <drkfce> for me
[06:54] <drkfce> unfortunately, that would boot me off of irc
[06:54] <flaccid> !dos
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <flaccid> !emulator
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <flaccid> !emulation
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <flaccid> !info dosbox
[06:55] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[06:55] <flaccid> ah sweet
[06:55] <DaSkreech> DrWilcock: Do you read ars?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Guess now
[06:56] <DaSkreech> not
[07:04] <flaccid> heh dosbox rules
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:05] <Dr_willis> dosbox is fun. :) that scummvm program is nice also. :)
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Been playing "Sam and Max Hit the Road" all week
[07:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:05] <flaccid> !info scummvm
[07:05] <ubotu> scummvm: free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1 (feisty), package size 1692 kB, installed size 4260 kB
[07:05] <flaccid> hmm
[07:05] <flaccid> yeah im playing commandeer keen series heh
[07:05] <Brad_> Okay... I reinstalled kubuntu... things are looking up, but something is still wrong...
[07:06] <DaSkreech> bradsnet: whazzat?
[07:06] <bradsnet> Hello again doc and flaccid.
[07:06] <bradsnet> Okay, I'm trying to get nvidia-glx working.
[07:07] <bradsnet> Previously I was getting odd errors in Xorg.0.log.... sometimes no errors, crazyness... but now it's more stable.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> what video card exactly?
[07:07] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra
[07:07] <bradsnet> Now i've got no errors in the logs.
[07:08] <bradsnet> I used the graphical config to set up xorg.conf... the display settings deal. And it nearly worked. It loaded all the modules that were failing to load before... but still no video.
[07:08] <bradsnet> But I noticed it was saying it was using CRT-0... but I need it to use DFP-0.
[07:09] <bradsnet> There was a screen setting in xorg.conf, so I changed it from 0 to 1... and it said no screens available.
[07:09] <bradsnet> I'm so close I can taste it now, I just need to figure out how to make it want to use my dfp....
[07:09] <Dr_willis> To default to the dfp - i belive theres  some other settings to tweak.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> there are some  example xorg.conf's that have such setups
[07:10] <bradsnet> It doesn't seem to be working with the crt either, but it's trying to set the resoution to 640x480 which I know it doesn't support.
[07:10] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: yep I can execute on debian just fine
[07:11] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: Something may be funkadelic with your shell
[07:11] <bradsnet> So... tell me if this makes sense though, I just went back to my working xorg.conf, the one that works with the nv driver, and all I changed was nv to nvidia... but it still doesn't work? Should it have the right screen settings since it works with the other driver?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> ive seen the 'nvidia' drivers default to the wrong monitor befor.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> it tries to be 'smarter' i guess. :)
[07:12] <bradsnet> Agh! The log still says "Assigned display device: CRT-0"
[07:12] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: well, I don't feel like doing any more tonight so thanks for all the help and putting up with this retarded situation with my shell have a good nigh.
[07:13] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: see you tomorrow
[07:14] <bradsnet> But this time it tried to set the res too high for the crt... prolly because that is what I was using for the dfp.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Option "UseDisplayDevice" "string" #replace 'string' with either 'DFP' (Digital flat panel connected via DVI port), 'CRT' (any monitor that is connected via VGA ports), or 'TV'
[07:14] <Dr_willis> are you using that option in the xorg.conf?
[07:14] <bradsnet> Hey, just what I was looking for.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> it pays to google/read the guides/wiki pages. :)
[07:15] <bradsnet> No, that may work. I knew someone mentioned a setting like that to me but I couldn't remember.
[07:15] <tekstacy> how is xfce compared to kde?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584
[07:15] <Dr_willis> tekstacy,  like blogna comapred to steak. :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: light
[07:15] <Dr_willis> low-fat bologna
[07:15] <bradsnet> I've been working on this problem for over 12 hours and the guides have mostly screwed me over so....
[07:15] <DaSkreech> and again you ask really broad questions :)
[07:16] <Dr_willis> bradsnet,  this is when it pays to read, and learn whats going on. :)
[07:16] <tekstacy> which is the steak?
[07:16] <tekstacy> (haven't tried xfce yet)
[07:16] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: KDE
[07:17] <bradsnet> I've learned heaps more from talking in here than reading any of the forums/wikis/etc... because they mostly expect you to be somewhat psychic. If I don't know what most things are referring to i can't really learn from them.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> xfce would be ok for a low end machine..
[07:17] <DaSkreech> I think that's safe to say
[07:17] <Dr_willis> or if ya want somthing for your wife to use. :)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Older more mature more specific apps better workflow
[07:17] <tekstacy> ahhh
[07:17] <Dr_willis> little woman got confused by kde.. so i set her up with xfce
[07:18] <DaSkreech> are you serious?
[07:18] <flaccid> bradsnet: ask specific questions here, we will give you specific answers to your questions to help you on the path
[07:18] <DaSkreech> what threw her?
[07:18] <tekstacy> I set my grandmother up with Gnome   (ubuntu)
[07:18] <brian_> I set my grandmother up with garden Gnomes...
[07:18] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  shes not very bright. :)
[07:19] <Dr_willis> and i know better then to say any more.. :)
[07:19] <bradsnet> flaccid: I have been, and I've gotten a ton of good information. It's difficult because I've been working on this so long I can't remember who I've told what, and I certainly don't know what you remember about the issue. I've talked to you about this before, for example.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> of course all she needs is a browser icon, and a  pysol icon.. but she saw all the other stuff...
[07:19] <bradsnet> And holy moly it just worked.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> bradsnet,  remarkable. :)
[07:20] <melkor> How do I kill a program from the terminall window?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> killall programname
[07:20] <Dr_willis> or xkill, then click on the program
[07:20] <Dr_willis> or use 'ps ax | grep programname' get its pid, and use 'kill pid'
[07:20] <Dr_willis> :) or............. hmm lets see...
[07:20] <brian_> Hey flaccid, how did you come by your nick - is it a reflection of your sexual prowess or just your attitude?
[07:21] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i just reinstall feisty 7.04 kubuntu,but i dont see my hdd nor my media storage on my desktop.i created a new folder to see if i can get in in the red folder to the left name root in red there's nothing.is this normal?
[07:21] <josiah> how do you change the resolution in kde?
[07:21] <flaccid>  brian_: grinspoon
[07:21] <melkor> thanks that awesome
[07:21] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Sorry what? You want to mount a hard drive?
[07:22] <bradsnet> josiah: In the system configuration there is a display settings panel you can use.
[07:22] <bradsnet> Dr_willis: Thank you for your help.
[07:22] <tekstacy> ahh, thx Dr_willis
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !info xrand
[07:22] <ubotu> Package xrand does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm !find xrand
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !find xrand
[07:22] <ubotu> Found: libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, libxrandr2-dbg, xrandr
[07:22] <josiah> bradsnet: oh.. lol i was looking in the system window and the whole time it was right in front of me
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Theres some Kde, systray thing that lets ya change the res as needed on the fly,
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !info xrandr
[07:23] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:23] <maryen> hello, would anyone be willing to help me?
[07:23] <brian_> I thought grunge was waaaaaay dead...
[07:23] <flaccid> maryen: yes
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[07:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:23] <adenicio> DaSkreech: no lol.on my desktop when u install linux im sopose to see my hdd and media storage that look like my computer from xp
[07:23] <maryen> I'm looking for someone to help me test a video feed I'm setting up
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:24] <flaccid> maryen: this is support channel for kubuntu
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: You know how to do that?
[07:24] <bradsnet> And that sounds fishy anyway.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  do what?  its going on 2 am here.. :)
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !info krandrtray
[07:24] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: get a drive icon on the Desktop
[07:25] <brian_> Does "Dr" stand for doctor Mr. willis or just "derrrrrrr"?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i just make a soft link from /media/whever to the users desktop
[07:25] <tekstacy> oops
[07:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:25] <Dr_willis> or use the media:/ address in konqueror
[07:25] <Dr_willis> that should show them also
[07:26] <Dr_willis> media:/ shows all mine.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:26] <Dr_willis> isent there a kde settings area thast selects what gets shown on the desktop also?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> I tend to NOT want them there.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> never bothered with Desktop Icons
[07:26] <tekstacy> sorry, what was the command for hdd usage again?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !find krandrtray
[07:26] <DaSkreech> df -h
[07:26] <tekstacy> er, to check usage
[07:26] <tekstacy> thanks
[07:26] <DaSkreech> du -h
[07:26] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kdebase-dbg
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[07:27] <Dr_willis>
[07:27] <Dr_willis> is MY fave. :)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> df tells you free space
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  Du tells you how much you have used
[07:27] <DaSkreech> ducks is my fave
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !find ducks
[07:27] <tekstacy> man df
[07:27] <ubotu> File ducks found in r-cran-boot
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: it doesn't exist outside my office i think
[07:27] <tekstacy> :)   time to clip nails....
[07:27] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[07:28] <Dr_willis> use ------> watch 'df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs'    in a little terminal window.
[07:28] <bradsnet> Okay, it's working at a slightly lower res that I know it can support, but it still looks darn good now, and is really FLYING performance wise... so I guess I'm okay with the slightly lower res for the moment.
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: does nothing here
[07:29] <Dr_willis> edit the proper mode lines..  Modes           "1024x768"      "800x600"       "640x480"
[07:29] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  should  show the ouitput of the command every 4 sec or so.. a poormans 'drive monitor' applet. :)
[07:29] <brian_> Do all of you command line guys watch the Discovery Channel and get a chuby when the show photos of the glyphs (I do)?
[07:29] <tekstacy> Dr, what should it do.
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: yeah but the data is  blank :)
[07:30] <Dr_willis> what data?  its showing mine.
[07:30] <tekstacy> all I see is   >
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ah well
[07:30] <Dr_willis> You did a typo then tekstacy
[07:30] <Dr_willis> and left an open '
[07:30] <bradsnet> The proper mode is definately there, and when I set it I get no errors... just no video.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: You forgot a '
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ducks is a hog hunter
[07:30] <Dr_willis> I used that command/montior ages ago with the 'roottail' stuff that was popular for a while
[07:30] <Dr_willis> !find roottail
[07:30] <DaSkreech> alias of the command du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11
[07:31] <ubotu> Package/file roottail does not exist in feisty
[07:31] <bradsnet> Maybe this is why it wasn't working before... cause it WAS trying that mode... maybe it doesn't support it for some reason and the reason it's working now is because I have the slightly lower mode in there when I didn't before....
[07:31] <tekstacy> ok, what is the fastest way to bring up a terminal window?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> tekstacy,  leave one open all the time. :)
[07:31] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: alt+space -> kon -> <enter>
[07:31] <Dr_willis> !info yakuake
[07:31] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[07:31] <Dr_willis> then run   yakuake  and hit F12
[07:31] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: or if you have much sense yakuake
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:32] <DaSkreech> then it's F12
[07:32] <DaSkreech> which by the way is 1/4 kg less addicitive than herion
[07:32] <DaSkreech> I keep pressing F12 on gnome and windows and mac :(
[07:32] <DaSkreech> alt+space too
[07:33] <brian_> I'm guessing you've never really used heroin have you?
[07:33] <tekstacy> ahh, the drive usage command is cool.
[07:33] <tekstacy> heroin sucked
[07:33] <DaSkreech> though nothing is drummed into my DNA more than Alt+ctrl+a :-(
[07:33] <brian_> that means you paid for shitty heroin
[07:34] <tekstacy> ok, heroin was good, watching friend turn blue sucked
[07:35] <brian_> forgot to breathe?
[07:35] <tekstacy> something like that I guess.
[07:35] <bradsnet> Dr_willis: Thanks again, I'm off.
[07:36] <tekstacy> He was on coke too.
[07:36] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: >_<
[07:37] <tekstacy> the folly of youth and all that good shit....
[07:37] <brian_> software response lagging means big brother is watching...
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Adding `diversion of /usr/bin/bsetroot to /usr/bin/bsetroot.blackbox by fluxbox'
[07:38] <Dr_willis> wwhat is a 'diversion' in the apt-get installing 'meaning' of the term. :)
[07:38] <Dr_willis> just installed fluxbox and it said that.. never seen that sort of message befor.
[07:38] <brian_> Diet Coke or regular?
[07:38] <tekstacy> :)
[07:39] <tekstacy> I STILL feel gaps in my space-time continum from those days
[07:40] <Dr_willis> travling at the speed of light can do that to ya.
[07:40] <peters_> I'm having a small issue. When I launch Firefox, the little working cursor (bouncy firefox logo) stays there long after firefox is open. How can I get rid of it?
[07:40] <tekstacy> So what about Windows drivers, like for my SIM reader, can they be made to work in linux?
[07:41] <brian_> Just remember:  re-hab is for quitters...
[07:42] <tekstacy> well, most
[07:42] <DaSkreech> !offtopic | tekstacy and brian_
[07:42] <ubotu> tekstacy and brian_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:43] <tekstacy> :
[07:43] <tekstacy> er:   :(  sorry
[07:43] <Dr_willis> simreader?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> That sounds like a Dull Game. :)
[07:43] <Dr_willis> SimWatchingPaintDry
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: SimIRCChanSupport
[07:44] <DaSkreech> now with less repeating questions!
[07:44] <tekstacy> SIM cards like from mobile phone
[07:44] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: do you know who made the SimReader?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !kmobiletools
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !info kmobiletools
[07:44] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Might work :)
[07:45] <tekstacy> I got tht just an hour or so ago but haven't set it up yet
[07:45] <brian_> hey there DaSkreech -- you didn't get enough hugs as a child?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> brian_: No I didn't but in any case if you want to keep up the conversation please feel free to do so but do it in #kubuntu-offtopic thank you
[07:47] <brian_> (grin) ok then - I'm hugging you.  At first it feels good.   When I launch Firefox, the little working cursor (bouncy firefox logo) stays there long after firefox is open. How can I get rid of it?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> peters_: Totally or just for Firefox?
[07:49] <peters_> DaSkreech, it only happens to firefox.
[07:49] <andresj> peters_, right click it (in the K Menu?) and select Edit. in the dialog uncheck the "Enable launch feedback."
[07:49] <DaSkreech> System settings -> Keyboard and mouse -> mouse -> Visual feedback
[07:49] <mike_moose> Hello?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> G'Bye mate!
[07:50] <peters_> andresj, that was already checked.
[07:50] <peters_> andresj, oops you said uncheck.
[07:50] <andresj> yep
[07:51] <peters_> andresj, thanks that did it.
[07:51] <peters_> One more question for the night. How can I get the trash bin icon back on the desktop?
[07:51] <tekstacy> right click on the panel
[07:51] <tekstacy> then Add Aplet to Panel
[07:52] <andresj> right click on the desktop > Create new > Link to location... ; put trash:// in the URL box and then click on the icon button to select the trash icon if it doesn't appear already.
[07:52] <peters_> thanks
[07:53] <Tidus> quick question.  what's the quick/dirty way to set up a kubuntu machine to act as a NAT router?
[07:54] <tekstacy> crap, sorry, misunderstood question
[07:54] <DaSkreech> gah kNetworkmanager sucks!
[07:54] <Tidus> DaSkreech: yeah, i figured that one out
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !router
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !gateway
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Tidus> i had to use iwconfig manually
[07:55] <DaSkreech> hmm
[07:55] <Biovore> Tidus: you cna do a simple nat with a few commands on the cli..
[07:55] <Tidus> Biovore: i'm used to doing it by hand on gentoo
[07:55] <Tidus> but i'm looking for a simple script
[07:55] <tekstacy> well, 02:00 here, goodnight all.
[07:55] <Biovore> Tidus: there is a gui tool called kmyfirewall..
[07:56] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[07:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:56] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: night
[07:56] <tekstacy> Thanks for all the help guys
[07:56] <tekstacy> quit
[07:56] <tekstacy> DAMN, really must clip nails
[07:57] <Tidus> i'll look into that one
[07:57] <Tidus> i remember a debian script that did the job fine
[07:57] <Tidus> but i cant remember what its called
[07:57] <adenicio> DaSkreech: how do i get to the root?
[07:57] <Tidus> adenicio: sudo -i
[07:57] <Biovore> people write little shell scripts that do all kinds of thing.. just google for stuff..
[07:57] <Biovore> the debian on should work on ubuntu.. There basicly the same thing..
[07:57] <LaW> i need some help
[07:58] <brian_> Hey Tidus, I bet you do every thing by
[07:58] <LaW> can someone please help me
[07:58] <Tidus> brian_: ?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> !someone
[07:58] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:58] <brian_> Hey Tidus, I bet you do every thing by "hand" dont' you?
[07:58] <adenicio> Tidus: lol not that.i want to get in my root folder
[07:58] <DaSkreech> adenicio: cd /
[07:59] <Tidus> adenicio: sudo -i then cd ~
[07:59] <herbie> hi! installed kubuntu 7.04 yesterday.. i know, that there is no root password.. so what i must write to login as root? trying to install hplip
[07:59] <Tidus> i'm used to working from shell, not gui
[07:59] <mike_moose> Installing the latest gcc package causes a kernel oops in gutsy for me. What can I do?
[07:59] <LaW> i can't get ubuntu to start i get this error msg about /bin/sh:can't  access tty job control turned off
[08:00] <Tidus> herbie: hplip installed by default
[08:00] <herbie> aa
[08:00] <herbie> ok
[08:00] <herbie> :D
[08:00] <Tidus> !sudo_root > herbie
[08:00] <Tidus> gr...
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !root
[08:01] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:01] <vbgunz> anyone know what happened to libapache2-mod-security ? is it not in any of the feisty repos?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> mike_moose: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:01] <Tidus> basically, root is disabled, log in as you, then to run commands as root, just prefix the command with 'sudo'
[08:01] <adenicio> Tidus: dont understand.i have to put it in a konsole right?do i have to do that everytime i want to go in my root folder?
[08:02] <LaW> help!
[08:02] <Tidus> adenicio: i'm not quite that familiar with any linux distribution that has root disabled
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !hidden
[08:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:02] <LaW> i can't get ubuntu to start i get this error msg about /bin/sh:can't  access tty job control turned off
[08:02] <DaSkreech> LaW: has it ever booted before?
[08:02] <LaW> no
[08:03] <LaW> i have tested the cd for problems it says everything is ok
[08:03] <DaSkreech> sounds like you should reinstall
[08:03] <LaW> how to i do that
[08:03] <LaW> i am new to linuz
[08:03] <LaW> linux*
[08:03] <DaSkreech> LaW: Were you using the system>
[08:03] <DaSkreech> or has it literally never booted
[08:03] <DaSkreech>  oh wait this is the Live CD you are talking about?
[08:04] <LaW> all i did was insert the cd and clicked start ir install unbuntu
[08:04] <LaW> yes
[08:04] <LaW> yes its the live one
[08:04] <DaSkreech> LaW: try the safe graphics mode
[08:04] <LaW> didn't work
[08:04] <DaSkreech> LaW: laptop?
[08:04] <LaW> 2 laptops and a destop didn't work on none
[08:05] <tekstacy> 'lo again
[08:05] <LaW> the desktop is giving me the error that it wrote tho
[08:05] <tekstacy> another question, where in the file system can I find KTorrent?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: go ot bed!
[08:05] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: you want where it's installed?
[08:05] <Tidus> tekstacy: it's in the K menu
[08:05] <Tidus> installed by default
[08:06] <tekstacy> IE: Firefox wants to know where to find the "helper application" (for a torrent)
[08:06] <andresj> tekstacy: and the program itself is /usr/bin/ktorrent
[08:06] <DaSkreech> LaW: Hmm where does it do that
[08:06] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: on the command line type where ktorrent
[08:06] <tekstacy> AH HA! Thank you, now I can start the DL and go to bed
[08:06] <Tidus> Biovore: kmyfirewall is saying firewall not installed, but iptables is there
[08:07] <DaSkreech> LaW: when rather
[08:07] <tekstacy> bash: where: commad not found
[08:07] <LaW> it seems to be loading
[08:07] <LaW> then i get this error
[08:07] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: whereis ?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: which ktorrent should also work
[08:08] <herbie> Tidus: printer works fine! printed test page and its perfect
[08:08] <LaW> its say starting and then i get the process bar and then the next screen is that error
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Can you press alt+Ctrl+F1 and see if there are any other messages?
[08:09] <Tidus> herbie: cool
[08:09] <Tidus> brb
[08:10] <tekstacy> ahh whereis worked.
[08:10] <tekstacy> Thanks guys, this has been a very educational night    :)
[08:11] <tekstacy> goodnight
[08:11] <LaW> i did the alt+ctrl+f1 and its say's loading, please wait...
[08:13] <LaW> i did the alt+ctrl+f1 and its say's loading, please wait...
[08:13] <DaSkreech> That's it?
[08:13] <LaW> yep
[08:13] <DaSkreech> strange
[08:13] <adenicio> Daisuke-Ido: u know when u open a folder to the left there are shortcuts names of folder to tell u where u are?i dont have that
[08:13] <LaW> yeah thats what i was thinking
[08:13] <DaSkreech> normally it would spit a bunch for Kernel info
[08:14] <adenicio> #kubuntu-fr
[08:14] <LaW> on my laptop it get to a but father but then go's to a blank screen and doens't go any father then that i don't get anything on the screen
[08:15] <DaSkreech> what laptop?
[08:15] <LaW> i have an HP
[08:15] <LaW> dv series
[08:15] <DaSkreech> can look at A URL and see if it help
[08:15] <DaSkreech> s
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !laptop
[08:15] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[08:16] <DaSkreech> First Link
[08:16] <tlyoungb> Hi Folks. Well I think I made switch. I got Ubunto running on my Compaq Laptop.
[08:16] <tlyoungb> Works great.
[08:16] <LaW> i really wanna run it on my desktop tho i was just gonna try it on my laptop because it wasn't working on there
[08:17] <Tidus> DaSkreech: you can count kubuntu working on an old pentium2 compaq armada 1750 ...
[08:17] <daniele_> !list
[08:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:17] <daniele_> ciao
[08:17] <DaSkreech> LaW: I think that we can get it there but a few steps at a time :)
[08:17] <DaSkreech> LaW: I would try the noapci cheat though
[08:18] <Tidus> with acpi enabled even...
[08:18] <Tidus> works just peachy
[08:18] <Tidus> although i gotta figure out how to disable the automatic suspend
[08:18] <LaW> the boot cheat that the help menu gives
[08:18] <Tidus> since this thing is acting as a wireless bridge for the desktop in the bedroom
[08:18] <LaW> it ain't work for me
[08:19] <Tidus> any help on that one?
[08:20] <arun> is there anything similar to cocoamysql or mysql administrator for ubuntu?
[08:21] <NickPresta> arun, kmysqladmin
[08:22] <LaW> i have a dell c600 and i get a different error on there it tell me [   124.944000]  buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[08:23] <DaSkreech> LaW: Means it can't read the Cd
[08:23] <Tidus> LaW: fd0 is the floppy disk ....
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Oh wait yeah it is
[08:25] <arun> NickPresta: thanks. i found that the mysql administrator is in the ubuntu repos as well, but on the mysql website they've only listed tarballs for redhat and suse
[08:26] <arun> does anyone here use gui clients to backup their databases?
[08:26] <adenicio> DaSkreech: my navigation panel is not there.it just got white blank folders
[08:27] <arun> um, i know this is offtopic, but if my hostname is 'localhost', should i enter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as my server hostname?
[08:32] <LaW> is there a place where i can download the full version of ubuntu
[08:32] <Tidus> LaW: www.kubuntu.org
[08:33] <hangthedj_server> does anybody know what version of alsa feisty uses?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !info alsa
[08:37] <ubotu> Package alsa does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:37] <ubuntu> hangthedj_server: 1.0.13
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !find alsa
[08:37] <ubotu> Found: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa (and 34 others)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !info alsa-base
[08:38] <ubotu> alsa-base: ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.13-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 163 kB, installed size 344 kB
[08:39] <adenicio> ubotu: how to i modify a picture.i dont see the tools to draw
[08:39] <Karti> Hi all, got a 32 bit install on a 64 bit motherboard, but my USB ports are not recognised. Is there a way to add 64 bit drivers as I need them for my usb wireless and usb hard drive. Thanks in advance
[08:39] <adenicio> DaSkreech:  how to i modify a picture.i dont see the tools to draw
[08:39] <Tidus> !pkginfo gimp
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkginfo gimp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Tidus> gr.
[08:40] <pag> !info gimp | Tidus
[08:40] <ubotu> tidus: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[08:40] <Tidus> that works
[08:40] <Tidus> !info gimp | adenicio
[08:40] <ubotu> adenicio: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[08:41] <ubuntu> !info krita | adenicio
[08:41] <ubotu> adenicio: krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB
[08:42] <DaSkreech> adenicio: krita works nicely
[08:42] <DaSkreech> adenicio: alt+space -> krita -> <enter>
[08:43] <adenicio> DaSkreech:  ubuntu:  i dont see gimp neither krita
[08:43] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Oh my apologies
[08:43] <DaSkreech> adenicio: I'm sorry how familar are you with Linux/kubuntu ?
[08:44] <adenicio> DaSkreech: good enought to know about the alt+space
[08:44] <DaSkreech> adenicio: :-)
[08:44] <DaSkreech> so you know how to install krita?
[08:45] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i tink kubuntu was install bad.i dont even see my navigation pannel.and my media in the pannel
[08:45] <DaSkreech> adenicio: press F9
[08:46] <adenicio> DaSkreech: krita doesnt come with kubuntu 7.04?for the moment im upgrading so i cant install anything
[08:47] <DaSkreech> adenicio: apparently not I installed it so long ago I thought it was by default silly me
[08:47] <DaSkreech> adenicio: It's part of the KDE Office Suite which I use instead of OO.o
[08:47] <adenicio> DaSkreech: f9 hides the navigation panel it's not that the prob.it's whats sopose to be in it not there.how can i send u a picture to see?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> tinypic ?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> .com
[08:52] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the upload is takin long
[08:52] <DaSkreech> adenicio: ok
[08:52] <DaSkreech> yuo are the last thing on my help list for tonight
[08:54] <DaSkreech> adenicio: If I am not mistaken you can use OO.o draw to do pics as well
[08:54] <adenicio> DaSkreech: lol i didnt see what time it is lol it just that my xp gone bad then i need linux to corect it but linux went bad so i reinstall linux now it look like it install bad
[08:55] <DaSkreech> adenicio: just mount the drive manually
[08:55] <prak> Biovore: are you there
[08:56] <adenicio> DaSkreech: MOUNTing the drives is not the problem.my problem with xp when i get to the desktop 20second after it sticks and hardly moves
[08:56] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Sounds driverish
[08:57] <DaSkreech> adenicio: does the same in safe mode?
[08:57] <adenicio> DaSkreech: but i had to reinstall linux because of a problem i had going for 4 days.i could install anything with adept,or apt-get install
[08:57] <DaSkreech> >_<
[08:57] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i cant get in the safe mode
[08:58] <DaSkreech> ##windows
[08:58] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the upload for the picture is taking to long how can i shore u another way?
[08:59] <adenicio> file:///home/adenicio/Desktop/snapshot1.png
[08:59] <adenicio> lol
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Yeah that'll work :)
[09:01] <adenicio> DaSkreech: what will work
[09:01] <DaSkreech> the file:/// link
[09:02] <adenicio> DaSkreech: and how are u sopose to get there to see the pic?
[09:02] <DaSkreech> I can't
[09:02] <DaSkreech> :-)
[09:02] <DaSkreech> that's why it MUST work
[09:03] <DaSkreech> hi ompaul
[09:03] <adenicio> lol
[09:03] <DaSkreech> adenicio: So other than your reinstall anything pressing?
[09:04] <ompaul> morning
[09:05] <adenicio> DaSkreech: check see if u cant see my pic http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4yirllf if u can u will have to zoom in
[09:06] <DaSkreech> adenicio: the images at the side?
[09:06] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the navigation pannel id there but it look corupt
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Yeah just needs to find the right images
[09:07] <DaSkreech> the reinstall should groovy that up
[09:07] <raynerd> anyone know how I can convert a jpeg to png
[09:07] <raynerd> ?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> if not just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <adenicio> DaSkreech: on the side?its white with circles look like kubuntu logo
[09:08] <adenicio> DaSkreech: try this http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i13.tinypic.com/4yirllf.png" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
[09:08] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the png
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm looking at it
[09:09] <adenicio> to the left got just blank files
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Yeah sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should fix hat
[09:09] <DaSkreech> that
[09:11] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok i'll try that after the upgrade thing finish.just one thing befor u go
[09:13] <DaSkreech> adenicio: sure
[09:13] <adenicio> DaSkreech: isnt there a way to see what your cd havec got true to install?because the first time i buy the cd with a book i check for default on the cd it had none.i check 1hour ago it told me it didnt get true to check 460 stuff
[09:14] <DaSkreech> what
[09:14] <DaSkreech> the Kubuntu Cd has a sefl check if that's what you mean
[09:14] <adenicio> DaSkreech: sorry for my bad english im not that good at riten
[09:14] <DaSkreech> adenicio: what do you mean have got true to install?
[09:15] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i want to know what all my cd didnt get true to install
[09:15] <adenicio> DaSkreech: if possible
[09:15] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Umm not sure
[09:16] <DaSkreech> but I know that if you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it will install all you need
[09:16] <hangthedj_server> if the channel #bash for the Born again shell?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> adenicio: If you have an alternate CD it helps the upgrade stuff much faster
[09:16] <DaSkreech> hangthedj_server: Yes it is
[09:16] <hangthedj_server> thanks ;)
[09:16] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok
[09:17] <DaSkreech> night!
[09:17] <DaSkreech> !windows | adenicio
[09:17] <ubotu> adenicio: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:17] <DaSkreech> That chan should help
[09:18] <hangthedj_server> does anyone know how to get the console to not blank?
[09:18] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok tanks
[09:19] <adenicio> DaSkreech:
[09:20] <adenicio> DaSkreech: where can i download the lates kubuntu and how big it is?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> adenicio: http://kubuntu.org
[09:21] <DaSkreech> One Cd
[09:21] <DaSkreech> 700 Megs
[09:21] <DaSkreech> 698
[09:21] <DaSkreech> but who is counting?
[09:21] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok i taugh it was like 3go or something :-p
[09:22] <DaSkreech> naw :)
[09:22] <adenicio> DaSkreech: and how can i copy the iso to a cd on linux?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> !iso
[09:22] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:23] <DaSkreech> adenicio: in KDE use K3B
[09:23] <kkathman> compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable
[09:23] <kkathman> E: Broken packages
[09:23] <kkathman> anyone know the reason for this when in stalling compiz ?
[09:23] <kkathman> I followed the wiki
[09:23] <adenicio> ok
[09:24] <kkathman> or at least this wiki:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[09:24] <hangthedj_server> !effects
[09:24] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[09:24] <DaSkreech> kkathman: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:24] <kkathman> ok
[09:24] <hangthedj_server> kkathman: i only say that, cause i don't have a clue.
[09:24] <hangthedj_server> ;)
[09:25] <JCDG> 26031987
[09:26] <kkathman> eh as I suspected no answer :(
[09:27] <hangthedj_server> kkathman: go to #compiz-fusion and tell them beryl is way better.
[09:27] <kkathman> lol
[09:27] <kkathman> probably true
[09:28] <kkathman> I guess I'll go back to beryl then :(
[09:28] <blekos> hi, if I'm nt mistaken linux used to have smg like a database to increase search. This database could be updated by the user
[09:29] <blekos> any ideas what i'm talking about>
[09:29] <blekos> ?
[09:30] <Tcsdomain> huh? beryl is still better?
[09:30] <Tcsdomain> oh mans
[09:30] <adenicio> blekos: no speek spanish to see lol
[09:30] <redfive> does compiz fuzion have emeerald themes like beryl does?
[09:30] <adenicio> redfive: maybe
[09:31] <redfive> maybe?
[09:31] <blekos> hahahaha
[09:31] <redfive> i know beryl, not sure on compiz fuzion
[09:34] <adenicio> Daisuke-Ido: i dont understand this thing with cd 1,2,3,4 gusty etc.i just want  kubuntu-feisty later than 7.04 beta. what is gusty?
[09:34] <adenicio> http://kubuntu.org/
[09:35] <pag> !gutsy | adenicio
[09:35] <ubotu> adenicio: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:36] <hangthedj_server> compiz fusion is still kinda buggy, i'm constantly trying to get it to work again.
[09:36] <adenicio> pag: is it like kubuntu feisty?
[09:36] <hangthedj_server> although, compiz is much prettier.
[09:37] <adenicio> !feisty
[09:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:37] <pag> adenicio, it's newer and far less stable... You should download Feisty
[09:38] <redfive> i could get beryl working no problem
[09:38] <adenicio> pag: i bought the cd kubuntu 7.04 beta is there anymore that came out after that that i can download.i dont want ubuntu
[09:39] <redfive> and i caint find emerald theme manager in compiz fuzion
[09:39] <pag> adenicio, http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[09:40] <hangthedj_server> redfive: you have to install emerald and use the emerald theme manager.
[09:41] <Tcsdomain> hi, does anyone know which driver works best for an ati radeon 9600 xt? thanks.
[09:42] <adenicio> pag: how big is the dvd's and whats the differents if i choose cd or dvd?does it comes with less things or it only come with more language?
[09:43] <pag> adenicio, I've never used DVD... I guess it has more packages, and it can be used as local repo...
[09:43] <Biovore> Tcsdomain: none..  ATI's binary driver comes the closest.. but it sucks hard still..
[09:43] <adenicio> pag: the kubuntu i have is 4.7gig's
[09:43] <adenicio> pag: does the cd version can do a cd-live?
 can you explain? how do you install emerarld after compiz fuzion?
[09:44] <hangthedj_server> redfive, what repository are you using?
[09:44] <clau85> hello. which is the mixer device in kubuntu. and what is the software mixer. asking because I can't control volume with tvtime (I selected /dev/mixer as the mixer)
[09:44] <pag> adenicio, there are live-cd verison (which contains an installer too) and alternate version, which is text-based installation cd
[09:45] <pag> adenicio, they both are around 700MB in size
[09:46] <redfive> hangthedj_server i havent started yet
[09:46] <Tcsdomain> Biovore: so that means I don't have much of a choice but to switch video cards? also, the opensource drivers worked once before with tis card, but that was with a different motherboard. now they freeze before Kubuntu finishes loading. thanks anyway
[09:46] <hangthedj_server> redfive, what distro?
[09:46] <redfive> feisty
[09:46] <redfive> amd64
[09:47] <hangthedj_server> i've heard download.tuxfamily.org has a repository for fusion thats pretty good.
[09:47] <hangthedj_server> in gutsy, you can install fusion in the default repositories.
[09:47] <redfive> wow, these repos are everywhere
[09:47] <hangthedj_server> but fusion is far from stable.
[09:47] <redfive> every guide says to use a different one
[09:47] <adenicio> pag: can the cd do the option cd-live? if there both 700 why my kubuntu is 4.7gigs?
[09:48] <maverick> any one knows of places where i can know how to customize my kde taskbar panel ...i'd like to make it a lot like gnome's one...??
[09:48] <hangthedj_server> i don't know of any different ones.
[09:49] <pag> adenicio, livecd has a live session - yes. 4.7GB: is that installed size or the DVD?
[09:50] <adenicio> pag: i tink its just the dvd
[09:51] <adenicio> pag: but im lookin in the dvd and its like it have nothing
[09:52] <pag> adenicio, I'm not familiar with *buntu DVD-versions..
[09:52] <adenicio> pag: when u upgrade does it install like a new version of kubuntu?
[09:53] <pag> adenicio, if you upgrade, your system will be upgraded to most recent (stable) version
[09:54] <adenicio> pag: ok
[09:55] <adenicio> pag: and update is for what is install like amarok etc?
[09:56] <pag> adenicio, pardon?
[09:56] <adenicio> lol
[09:56] <adenicio> pag: and update is for what is install like amarok etc?
[09:57] <adenicio> pag: and update is to update amarok etc
[09:57] <pag> adenicio, it upgrades all installed packages, if that's what you mean..
[09:58] <adenicio> pag: no i mean the updates
[09:58] <adenicio> not upgrade
[09:59] <pag> adenicio, sorry, I don't understand the question then.
[10:00] <adenicio> lol is my english that suck lol
[10:00] <adenicio> !ohmy
[10:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:00] <adenicio> lol
[10:01] <clau85> hello. which is the mixer device in kubuntu. and what is the software mixer. asking because I can't control volume with tvtime (I selected /dev/mixer as the mixer)
[10:03] <Cyprene> Hihi! My kubuntu seems to have um, broken. >_>
[10:03] <Biovore> clau85: the volume control for the tv might be on another channel and not pcm or master..
[10:04] <clau85> and what can I do then?
[10:05] <GoodHabit> Cyprene, how broken? What he does now? Where is error?
[10:05] <Cyprene> The program crashed, and when I restarted and logged in no programs will load.  Not even konqueror or a terminal.  When I run in failsafe mode I can run programs, though.
[10:06] <Cyprene> erm, logged into KDE
[10:06] <word> Cyprene: "The program crashed" which program?
[10:07] <Cyprene> Erm, the whole system crashed, sorry.  I was unraring a file and it failed because it ran out of disk space, and then all the programs I was running went unresponsive.
[10:08] <word> oo
[10:08] <word> i'm surprised the x server starts
[10:08] <word> Cyprene: can you boot into kde at all?
[10:09] <Cyprene> I can, yeah.  It boots OK.  The sound icon and the knetworker manager icon come up
[10:09] <Cyprene> *knetwork manager
[10:09] <word> Cyprene: many programs in order to work need to write to files ect. when there isn't enough space to do it, they freak out...apparently the one where X server wouldn't boot when it didn't have enough space has been fixed though hehe.
[10:10] <Cyprene> I booted into failsafe and rm'd a bunch of old AVIs.
[10:10] <word> Cyprene: since then does it boot correctly?
[10:10] <Cyprene> lemme try again
[10:11] <Cyprene> It looks like it didn't. :(
[10:12] <Cyprene> Is there a unix command to tell how much free space I've got on my drive?
[10:12] <Jucato> df -h
[10:12] <Cyprene> thx
[10:12] <Jucato> although that lists per partition (mounted)
[10:13] <Cyprene> rm wipes a file totally right? It doesn't move it to a trash folder somewhere?
[10:13] <word> Cyprene: another thing that may have happened, while it was writing it stopped suddenly and your disk might have errors on it :-/
[10:13] <Jucato> Cyprene: yep. totally gone
[10:13] <word> rm erases completely (and doesn't leave crap behind like windows *cough*)
[10:14] <Cyprene> I can check using... what's the program? fsck?
[10:14] <Cyprene> right?
[10:14] <word> yup
[10:14] <word> or you can reboot until the 20time check kicks in
[10:14] <Cyprene> yeah its still got 2.5 gigs free
[10:14] <Cyprene> Let me try upping that a little, that's not very much
[10:14] <word> it's more than enough
[10:15] <word> either reboot a bunch, or go into recovery console..i'm pretty sure it doesn't mount any partitions then..so then you can fsck the drive
[10:15] <Jucato> I thought it was 30 times?
[10:15] <zorg_the_false> the partition is the root one ?
[10:15] <Cyprene> how do I get into a recovery console?
[10:16] <Jucato> actually it's not the number of reboots that is counted. it's the number of times the partition is mounted
[10:16] <adenicio> pag: when i install linux my navigation pannel is there but with blank white folders.how do i get back the pannel?i tyr sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop nothing.it maybe when i was playing in the option etc i maybe deactivate it.if it does have that option do you know where i can find it?
[10:16] <word> it's an option in grub
[10:16] <pag> adenicio, sorry, I don't know.
[10:16] <word> Cyprene: if it's just the times it's been mounted...repeat the command mount *drive* && umount *drive* a bunch..that is if recovery console doesn't mount any partitions
[10:16] <zorg_the_false> the amount of mount before forcing a fsk is tunable by "tune2fs -c myamount" and default to 30
[10:17] <word> otherwise you'll have to get a live cd like knoppmyth..which i've always had trouble with detecting x server settings..
[10:18] <zorg_the_false> why not umount + fsck ?
[10:18] <Cyprene> so if I type tune2fs -c 1
[10:18] <Cyprene> well, lemme try that
[10:18] <zorg_the_false> :)
[10:18] <zorg_the_false> you will get a LOT of fsck if you keep it :)
[10:18] <word> Cyprene: in the meantime..when you say programs don't run..do you mean they never start? also..can you get into a terminal and see if there's any debug output when they run?
[10:19] <Cyprene> They never start. NOTHING starts.  Konquerer windows won't open.  I can't get into a terminal because terminal doesn't start.
[10:19] <word> zorg_the_false: it's the partition he's booting off of umount wouldnt work :P
[10:19] <zorg_the_false> word: ah ok :)
[10:19] <word> Cyprene: tried starting something in virtual terminal?
[10:19] <mm_202> Good morning guys, quick question.