[00:00] <Alumin> so the touchpad itself is working, but I need the synaptics driver specifically (to enable this extra scrolling functionality)
[00:07] <adamu> Hello
[00:09] <Rory> adamu: Hello
[00:11] <glitsj16> Alumin: do you have the synaptics driver loaded in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[00:12] <Alumin> I don't have an xorg.conf :)
[00:12] <Alumin> X just auto-detects everything these days
[00:12] <Alumin> do I need to make one?
[00:13] <glitsj16> Alumin: that's true, but you can make a minimal one only for the InputDevice with synaptics yes
[00:14] <Alumin> cool, so I can make one that sets certain things without overriding the rest of the auto-detection?
[00:14] <SASDOE> hi guys a friend uninstalled xserver-xorg-core and is stuck at boot now
[00:14] <glitsj16> Alumin: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad (the section on SHMConfigà
[00:14] <daftykins> Alumin: correct
[00:14] <SASDOE> grub just hangs apparently. he was trying to remove gui
[00:15] <Beldar> SASDOE, Grub shows?
[00:16] <SASDOE> Beldar: yes but hangs
[00:16] <Ben64> SASDOE: need more details
[00:17] <SASDOE> haven't got more sorry, will come back with more when i do.
[00:17] <Ben64> SASDOE: maybe have your friend come here instead of relaying information
[00:18] <SASDOE> he doesn"t speak any english so i'd just end up translating any how
[00:18] <yeyeman> why is transmission dling at like 20kbs when there are thousands of seeds?
[00:18] <Ben64> yeyeman: thats really not a question for here
[00:19] <Beldar> SASDOE, grub is just a call to the OS to boot, so is it getting past grub, you can remove the quiet splash and see text for errors.
[00:19] <bekks> "grub is a call to the OS"?
[00:19] <Administrador> guys, I need some help with ubuntu 13.10 64 bits version. I used it for a couple of weeks but today after a reboot I can only see a black screen and my mouse after login(guest account is the same but with default wallpaper instead of black)
[00:20] <SASDOE> remove the quiet splash? be going to error output on display four with alt f4?
[00:20] <Administrador> I reinstalled both unity and ubuntu-desktop. tried to use dconf to reset configuration but it gave me anerror
[00:20] <Alumin> glitsj16: now I just get an SHMConfig error along with the other error :)
[00:21] <Alumin> that's good to know, though, about being able to make an xorg.conf fragment
[00:21] <Beldar> bekks, not the exact syntax, yes.
[00:21] <Administrador> SASDOE: is that directed at me?
[00:21] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, are you using unity, gnome, or something else as your desktop environment?
[00:21] <SASDOE> Administrador: nope separate "thread"
[00:21] <Alumin> presumably I could make another Section to set up the trackpad
[00:21] <bekks> Beldar: Grub has nothing to do with the OS. :)
[00:21] <glitsj16> Alumin: heh, let's take a closer look, can you pastebin both your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the errors please?
[00:21] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: unity, but I don't think it is the problem
[00:21] <bekks> Beldar: It loads "something" that starts the OS.
[00:22] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, can you hit cntl+alt+f1 and drop to commandline?
[00:22] <SASDOE> bekks: i agree my description, and my friends, is large
[00:22] <Beldar> bekks, you get what the effort is here in questions on a grub hang right. ;)
[00:22] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: yes, that's how I reinstalled unity and ubuntu-desktop
[00:23] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, From there try xinit -- :1
[00:23] <geekmasterflash> when type in unity on the console that pops up
[00:23] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, then try to switch back to graphics with cntrl+alt+f7
[00:23] <Alumin> glitsj16: http://www.fpaste.org/57364/
[00:23] <glitsj16> Alumin: ok, give me a minute
[00:24] <Alumin> haha I guess it's a bit funny using a Fedora-branded pastebin for #ubuntu
[00:24] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: nothing pops up
[00:25] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it said "fatal server error:"
[00:25] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Okay, how about unity --reset-icons ?
[00:26] <glitsj16> Alumin: whatever works for you is okay :) .. i've pasted a new attempt to replace your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for you to try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6487258/
[00:26] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: "seems" to work, buy nothing on ctrl alt f7 changes
[00:26] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Hmm
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, perhaps compiz is the problem...
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, try compiz --display :0 --replace
[00:27] <Alumin> glitsj16: yeah, that looks more like it
[00:27] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: either way, let me try purging xorg edgers ppa, which I added AFTER this happened(a few minutes ago, actually)to see if it changed anything
[00:27] <Alumin> I think the instructions from that other page are more for people who have a functional but misbehaving touchpad
[00:27] <glitsj16> Alumin: yes that would explain things .. or it's my ignorance ;)
[00:27] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: after display an emoticon is showing, what did you type there?
[00:28] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, semicolon 0
[00:28] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, wait, not a semicolon
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, that other thing...
[00:29]  * geekmasterflash fails to remember basic english punctuation
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> Administrador,  :
[00:29] <Alumin> colon
[00:29]  * geekmasterflash feels dumb now
[00:30] <Alumin> it happens to everyone :)
[00:30] <Alumin> actually
[00:30] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it gave 7 lines of line(still running but does give me more logs), nothing changed at ctrl alt f7(tty7?)
[00:30] <Alumin> I've considered starting to call it "full colon" in response to all these people who insist on saying "forward slash" to describe "/"
[00:30] <Administrador> none of the lines display any error
[00:32] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Try dropping to cntl+alt+F6 and typing unity
[00:32] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Then switch back to F7
[00:32] <Beldar> SASDOE, There are many irc channels language orientated having you try to interpret the problem is problematic at best.
[00:33] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: nothing happens
[00:33] <Alumin> glitsj16: that hasn't fixed the problem, but I think I have enough to go on now
[00:34] <glitsj16> Alumin: cool, 'cause that exhausted my knowledge fully
[00:34] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, try sudo service lightdm restart
[00:34] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: I think that unity isn't the on causing the problem
[00:34] <Alumin> I have no problem fiddling around with xorg.conf, I was editing XFree86 config files when most of these youngins were knee-high
[00:34] <Alumin> I just assumed that if Xorg saw xorg.conf that it would override its autoconfiguration
[00:34] <glitsj16> hehe, goodluck
[00:34] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Our options are Unity, Compiz or lightdm... at least so far as I have experienced with similar problems
[00:35] <Alumin> glitsj16: the weird part is that the synaptics package doesn't actually contain a file called "synaptics"
[00:35] <Administrador> this isn't the first time I've had problems with x, but it's been a long time since I had a problem, and I never had to actually modify an file
[00:35] <Alumin> it does have "synaptics_drv.so" but I tried "modprobe synaptics_drv" and it said it wasn't found
[00:35] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, X seems to be working fine
[00:35] <Beldar> Administrador, Did you run the ppa-purge on the ppa?
[00:36] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Your mouse cursor is testament to that.
[00:36] <Alumin> *shrug*  I gotta go run an errand but I'll get to the bottom of this soon enough
[00:36] <glitsj16> Alumin: indeed not, i think it's an Xorg configuration case entirely
[00:36] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it gave me some logs (starting , stopping)etc
[00:36] <Administrador> Beldar: not yet
[00:37] <Beldar> Administrador, Not sure that is the answer, however you want to purge correctly is all.
[00:37] <Administrador> Beldar: or better said, I did, but it's "updating packages"
[00:37] <Beldar> Administrador, Do you know what ppa-purge is?
[00:37] <TeamColtra> how do I find a user group and number?
[00:38] <Administrador> Beldar: yes, for removing ppa and removing whatever was installer with it
[00:38] <TeamColtra> Like I want to set a tmpfs so my php-mysql user can write to the directory
[00:38] <Beldar> Administrador, Cool, it would remove all that and comment out the ppa, so it should not be calling it.
[00:39] <Alumin> TeamColtra: you can get a user's groups and their numbers with "id <username">
[00:39] <Beldar> Administrador, Are you sure it's calling that ppa?
[00:39] <Administrador> Beldar: I have to point out, that the problem started before I added the ppa, and that I only used xor edgers to see if it helped me somehow
[00:39] <Beldar> Administrador, sure.
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, can you pastebin your /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
[00:40] <Administrador> I'm not sure, my internet is pretty slow, it is still at "updating package lists"
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> ?
[00:40] <Beldar> Administrador, Were you using proprietary drivers?
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, also /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[00:40] <Administrador> no, default drivers
[00:41] <Alumin> glitsj16: ok I'm out, thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
[00:41] <glitsj16> Alumin: no problem, hope you get to that bottom
[00:41] <Beldar> Administrador, Cool, sorry for interrupting.
[00:41] <Administrador> tried to use vim, but it seems it doesn't come installed by default
[00:41] <Administrador> any file reading softwarte that ships by default?
[00:42] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:42] <TeamColtra> next question can I update fstab without restarting my server?
[00:42] <Alumin> Administrador: vi?
[00:42] <wheatthin> Administrador, try nano
[00:42] <Alumin> yeah that was gonna be my next suggestion
[00:42] <Alumin> make sure you use "nano -w" or you might destroy your config files
[00:43] <davidavado_> Is this the correct place to ask for help?
[00:43] <Alumin> yes
[00:43] <Beldar> davidavado_, For ubuntu.
[00:44] <Alumin> well...yes.  :P
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, cat /var/logs/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:44] <davidavado_> lol
[00:44] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: first one is empty
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Oh?
[00:44] <Beldar> davidavado_, Many derivative and linux users come here.
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, o_0 there is no xorg log?
[00:45] <Administrador> also, I don't know how to get out of nano
[00:45] <bekks> pastebinit filename
[00:45] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: yes, totally empty
[00:45] <bekks> Administrador: Look at the bottom of your screen, there the main commands of nano.
[00:46] <davidavado_> get out of nano press ctrl+x , then "y" if on putty
[00:46] <Administrador> bekks: I see them, and that it is based on letters, but I can only type in the empty document
[00:46] <Administrador> ok
[00:46] <bekks> Administrador: then press ctrl-x
[00:47] <Administrador> also, I still cant install pastebinit because ppa-purge still isn't done
[00:48] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, in /var/logs can you find any logs that start with Xorg?
[00:49] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: lightdm file has some logs, but doesn't show any error
[00:49] <davidavado_> I have a question, is there a way to reset the group file permissions (my root's group is set to 1003 instead of default 0)? My sudo is really messed up..
[00:49] <bekks> davidavado_: then what happened before?
[00:49] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, At this point I am more concerned about the lack of Xorg logs
[00:50] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: also, how would I look for the files at that folders?
[00:50] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, go to /var/logs and type ls
[00:50] <Administrador> ok
[00:50] <bekks> davidavado_: pastebin the content of "/etc/passwd" please
[00:50] <Administrador> >no such file or folder
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, you can't cd /var/log
[00:51] <Administrador> bekks: I don't have pastebin installed, and I won't be able to untill ppa is finished
[00:51] <davidavado_> I can't no permission. "sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1003, should be 0 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin"
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Woops, put an s there that shouldnt have been
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, cd to /var/log
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, then type ls
[00:52] <bekks> davidavado_: "grep root /etc/passwd"
[00:52] <Administrador> now it works
[00:52] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Any Xorg logs there?
[00:52] <bekks> davidavado_: That should produce one or two lines at most.
[00:52] <davidavado_> Okay got it, sorry. root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[00:52] <bekks> davidavado_: and now please pastebin /etc/sudoers
[00:53] <Administrador> Xorg.o.log    Xorg.0.log.old     Xorg.1.log
[00:53] <bekks> davidavado_: And please pastebin: ls -lha /etc/sudoers
[00:53] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, K, check Xorg.0/log for any (EE) or excessive (WW)
[00:53] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: problem is that the first time the path had the s(logs)
[00:54] <Administrador> there are (==) (**) and (WW)
[00:54] <davidavado_> http://pastebin.com/KvsAWEkF
[00:54] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Pastebin it when you can
[00:55] <ikonia> davidavado_: what happened
[00:55] <Administrador> (WW) ones all talk about the nonexistance of fonts
[00:55] <davidavado_> i tried to give a group full access to "/" and ended up messing my sudo
[00:56] <bekks> davidavado_: "tried to give" - what exactly did you do?
[00:56] <ikonia> davidavado_: you didn't change /'s permissions
[00:56] <ikonia> or do a chown -R /
[00:57] <mbeierl> davidavado_, you might need to reboot in single user (recovery?) mode and change the permissions that way..  Because you cannot sudo chmod it back, you might need to do that
[00:57] <bekks> davidavado_: did you do something like that?
[00:57] <davidavado_> something along those lines
[00:57] <bekks> mbeierl: he cant sudo, so he cant get root privs anymore.
[00:57] <mbeierl> davidavado_, to change back the permissions on /etc/sudoers
[00:57] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: disregard my last message, there is more belows
[00:57] <ikonia> davidavado_: what di dyou actually run
[00:58] <mbeierl> bekks, that's why I said he would have to reboot into the recovery / single user mode.
[00:58] <buntutech> where is the ubuntu equivalent of device manager? (place to update or uninstall and reinstall harware drivers?)
[00:58] <bekks> mbeierl: Even then he needs sudo to get root privs.
[00:58] <ikonia> buntutech: it doens't work like that
[00:58] <ikonia> buntutech: what are you tyring to do
[00:58] <mbeierl> bekks, huh?  Since whne?
[00:58] <wheatthin> buntutech, depends on the hardware. lol
[00:58] <ikonia> he doesn't need sudo in single user mode
[00:58] <buntutech> i was afraid you were going to say that ikonia
[00:58] <wheatthin> some you just unplug
[00:59] <bekks> mbeierl: Since ever. Ubuntu has no valid root pw, so you cant login as root.
[00:59] <geekmasterflash> buntutech, A mix between the command line and hardinfo :P
[00:59] <mbeierl> bekks, single user boot does not drop you to a root shell anymore?
[00:59] <ikonia> mbeierl: it does
[00:59] <quidnunc> How do I list packages available from a particular repository?
[00:59] <buntutech> ikonia, wheatthin geekmasterflash if i want to uninstall a usb port driver and reinstall it...can i do that ?
[00:59] <ikonia> buntutech: why do you want to do that ?
[00:59] <wheatthin> just unplug
[00:59] <bekks> ikonia: it actually does even without a valid pw set?
[00:59] <ikonia> bekks: yup
[01:00] <buntutech> ikonia, because sometimes it fixes a usb port that doesnt work
[01:00] <ikonia> buntutech: how do you know it fixes it, if you don't know how to do it
[01:00] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa      (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modsetting       (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[01:00] <davidavado_> sudo chown -R root:(group) /
[01:00] <wheatthin> buntutech, ahh, you just gotta reload module
[01:00] <mbeierl> ikonia, ok, that is what I thought.  Thanks - I was confused for a second there.
[01:00] <ikonia> davidavado_: ok - so you have more serious problems than your sudoers file
[01:00] <buntutech> ikonia, i DO NOT know it fixes it in ubuntu i do know it sometimes fixes it in windows
[01:00] <bekks> davidavado_: that screwed you system entirely. Sorry for the explicit language.
[01:00] <wheatthin> buntutech, just with modprobe
[01:01] <ikonia> buntutech: you're not using windows - so you need to look at the problem from linux, not windows
[01:01] <davidavado_> dang
[01:01] <buntutech> wheatthin, geekmasterflash do you have an idea that you can explain too me?
[01:01] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: Failed to initiate GLX extension /compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[01:02] <wheatthin> buntutech, modprobe -r <module>     removes it
[01:02] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, That could be part of the problem
[01:02] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: though, I don't have a dedicated gpu, I only have an integrated intel G41
[01:02] <mbeierl> ikonia, isn't there some type of dpk repair that will set the perms back?
[01:02] <wheatthin> modprobe <module> enables it.
[01:02] <ikonia> mbeierl: no
[01:02] <buntutech> wheatthin, i dont actually understand what you just said ...but ok ty
[01:02] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Was that a EE or WW?
[01:02] <davidavado_> by the way, thank you ikonia and bekks for support, peace
[01:02] <wheatthin> buntutech, then go into terminal and type  man modprobe
[01:02] <mbeierl> ikonia, must have imagined that I wanted one ...
[01:03] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: I has been years since I had a nvidia in my computer, and twiped and started using this hdd last week
[01:03] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: forgot to add (EE)
[01:03] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, For some reason it seems to think you have an Nvidia card.
[01:04] <ChronicLlama> hi all
[01:04] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: at some point it talks about intel drivers with a list of gpus, it includes my g41
[01:04] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: found another (WW) but it's about my keyboard/mouse bundle
[01:04] <Administrador> ChronicLlama: hello
[01:05] <wheatthin> Administrador, just use pastebin and they can see it all at once
[01:05] <buntutech> wheatthin, the after removing it how do it get it back?
[01:05] <wheatthin> !paste | Administrador
[01:05] <wheatthin> buntutech, with modprobe
[01:06] <buntutech> wheatthin, and is modprobe a software program or something i install?
[01:06] <wheatthin> it's a program, that's already installed. the system depends on it.
[01:06] <Administrador> wheatthin: I don't have it installd and I'm running ppa-purge at the moment
[01:06] <wheatthin> Administrador, you don't have to have it installed
[01:07] <Administrador> wheatthin: thought you meant pastebinit
[01:07] <Runemoro> Hello, does anyone know why find and dd don't follow unix conventions?
[01:07] <wheatthin> Runemoro, and why doesn't it?
[01:08] <Runemoro> weatthin, dd if=... of=... isn't unix syntax
[01:08] <wheatthin> yes it is.
[01:08] <Runemoro> and find uses one dash instead of two
[01:08] <Runemoro> find -name instead of find --name and a single-dash shortcut for it
[01:08] <wheatthin> ahh yeah, it needs absolute paths
[01:09] <zykotick9> Runemoro: not an ubuntu support question...
[01:09] <wheatthin> zykotick9, it is, cause it's the same damn program
[01:09] <wheatthin> same syntax
[01:10] <Runemoro> weatthin, no, in all commands except find you need two dashes
[01:11] <wheatthin> lol not all.
[01:11] <zykotick9> Runemoro: wrong, other "silly" programs use - as well... bad programers
[01:11] <wheatthin> only --syntax= statements
[01:12] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6487383/
[01:12] <wheatthin> which have shortcuts to -syn <option>
[01:12] <wheatthin> or whatever
[01:13] <wheatthin> Runemoro, if you have more questions, just look up the manpages, they'll tell you what the documentation is based from.
[01:13] <Runemoro> but for example in ls, ls -la it interprets the -la as two arguments, and -iname isn't interpreted as -i -n -a -m -e
[01:14] <zykotick9> Runemoro: that's a convention, not a rule... it's up to the person that does the programming
[01:15] <cariveri_> hi. I got a black screen with only the mouse left after an application crash. can I get it all back from here (other tty console)?
[01:15] <pac1> launchpad-dev
[01:15] <Runemoro> zykotick9, that was my original question: "Hello, does anyone know why find and dd don't follow unix conventions? "
[01:15] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, You have nvidia's 319 driver installed.
[01:15] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, [    34.068] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  319.60  Wed Sep 25 14:24:11 PDT 2013
[01:15] <wheatthin> cariveri_, you can try to service lightdm restart
[01:16] <pac1> join #launchpad-dev
[01:16] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, You state the card's been removed?
[01:16] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: years ago, it had a defect so it couldn't be used
[01:16] <zykotick9> Runemoro: ask the people that wrote find and dd... again, this isn't an ubuntu support question...
[01:16] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: we are talking about a 9500 gt, it was a t lesat 2 years ago
[01:17] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Well, either bios still thinks it's there or something wonky is going on
[01:17] <Runemoro> Ok, I will
[01:17] <Guest66419> I'm going to switch over to the ubuntu distro from mint. Should I get 12.04 or 13.10 and why?
[01:17] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, can you give me an lspci and pastebin it?
[01:17] <wheatthin> 12.04 has longer support
[01:18] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: where is the log for lspci stored?
[01:18] <Guest66419> thanks wheatthin
[01:18] <wheatthin> Administrador, you have to store it.
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, It's a command
[01:18] <in_deep_thought> can someone help me understand why I can't java applets can't run in my web browser?
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, you can pipe it to a text file if you like
[01:18] <in_deep_thought> nothing shows up on this page: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, It's probably better to just run the command and send me the results in pastebin
[01:18] <Airia> What browser are you using?
[01:18] <in_deep_thought> despite doing everything here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289745/icedtea-7-plugin-non-functional-in-ubuntu-13-04
[01:19] <in_deep_thought> chrome
[01:19] <in_deep_thought> or firefox, the same result in both browsers
[01:19] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: I knot it's a comman, but I want to make it into a file to use pastebinit with it
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, you can pipe it like so lspci | pastebinit
[01:19] <wheatthin> or pastebinit lspci
[01:19] <wheatthin> either way :)
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> That too
[01:19] <in_deep_thought> is there a standard lists of instructions for getting java to work on ubuntu (it must be a common goal)
[01:20] <wheatthin> in_deep_thought, jre7
[01:20] <Administrador> wheatthin: it says that it can't read lspci
[01:20] <Airia> Give me a sec, I'll give you the directions
[01:20] <in_deep_thought> yeah I installed that
[01:20] <Airia> I gotta dig em up
[01:20] <in_deep_thought> and the icedtea-7-plugin
[01:20] <in_deep_thought> Airia: ok thanks
[01:20] <wheatthin> that's firefox plugin
[01:20] <Beldar> !java | in_deep_thought
[01:21] <Airia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:21] <Airia> Follow that. You need to install the JRE and the plugin for the browser
[01:21] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: although your command did work
[01:21] <in_deep_thought> so can I pick between openjdk, the oracle java, and the icedtea plugin?
[01:22] <in_deep_thought> or can I do all  3, or do I have to pick one and only one
[01:22] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6487405/  everything is intel but the ethernet controller
[01:22] <wheatthin> does it say you can?  lol
[01:22] <Airia> It would just be easiest I think to go with the openjdk
[01:22] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get remove nvidia-319 ?
[01:22] <Airia> but yes, you can choose if you like
[01:23] <Airia> And just choose 1, so nothing conflicts
[01:23] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it says that it isn't installed
[01:23] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get remove nvidia-* ?
[01:24] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Cause I am definitely seeing 319 being loaded in that log
[01:24] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: 2 to install, 20 to remove, there are some 319 thingies
[01:25] <in_deep_thought> Airia: according to those instructions, I need to install both openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin
[01:25] <in_deep_thought> if I have done that, what would be the next troubleshooting step when that verify java page still doesn't respond?
[01:26] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Okay, well I am not sure they are the problem but they are the first graphics drivers being called in the log
[01:26] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: for some reason vlc is also being uninstalled, weird
[01:26] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, and you don't even have the card.
[01:26] <Administrador> yep, already uninstalling
[01:26] <buntutech> is there aa specific email to the folks at ubuntu...an email specifically for issue regarding te ubuntu chat?
[01:27] <Airia> in_deep_thought: it should work. If it doesnt, I would purge the install and try a different.
[01:27] <zeldak> Hi, some devices at /dev don't exist anymore, how could I update it?
[01:27] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: running ppa-purge again as last time it failed (apt-get update couldn't be completed, it said)
[01:27] <bekks> buntutech: that may depend on your specific issue - what is it?
[01:27] <bekks> zeldak: which devices?
[01:28] <buntutech> i am not saying i have an issue bekks just womndered if this chat is ubuntu's or if it is separate?
[01:28] <bekks> buntutech: this is the official english speaking IRC chat of Ubuntu, yes.
[01:29] <amagee> Just wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good ebook-reading app, preferably one with a good search? I'm using calibre and it's ok.. just wondering if there's something better.
[01:29] <buntutech> are the people who make ubuntu in charge of this channel bekks?
[01:29] <bekks> buntutech: yes
[01:29] <buntutech> ok ty bekks
[01:36] <in_deep_thought> Airia: I have purged and reinstalled everything twice now and still no response from the verify java page.
[01:36] <in_deep_thought> any other suggestions?
[01:36] <in_deep_thought> is there an error output somewhere I can read?
[01:39] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: just so you knoe, I'm still here, it's just that ppa-purge is still "updating package list"
[01:41] <Airia> in_deep_thought: Ive never actually used the java page to verify its been installed. Are you trying to run on app online? Id try to see if that works first
[01:42] <in_deep_thought> yeah I am trying to run the chess applet on chess.com play vs computer and the page just freezes and become nonresponsive
[01:42] <MrKeuner> hello, I have a macbook here and a usb prepared with 13.10 64bit, on a 64bit lenovo running 12.04
[01:42] <MrKeuner> How do I boot macbook from this usb?
[01:42] <MrKeuner> some weird key comaibnation i suppose
[01:43] <Airia> Have you tried installing the JRE through the software center?
[01:43] <MrKeuner> no
[01:43] <in_deep_thought> well now I can run java applets through a different site
[01:44] <in_deep_thought> so maybe its the chess.com one
[01:44] <Airia> possibly.
[01:44] <in_deep_thought> but then I can run that on any windows computer I try it on
[01:44] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: ahhhh, failed again. well will reboot and try again
[01:44] <Airia> If other Java sites are working..Id say so
[01:45] <Airia> MrKeuner: what kind of Macbook?
[01:46] <Airia> Press C during startup 	Start up from a bootable CD, DVD, or USB thumb drive (such as OS X install media)
[01:47] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: against what I expected, it's now halffixed. programs load, the only thing missing is unity
[01:48] <DarkGhost`> Hello everyone, so... I've been having major problems with life the past day.. I tried live booting ubuntu to my usb drive and somehow I messed up my boot record for windows 8... now windows 8 doesn't load and I've tried everything but can't seem to get it work. any ideas?
[01:48] <MrKeuner> Airia, I don't know the hardware version, how can I know? there is no OS installed on it
[01:49] <MrKeuner> c does not seem to work, I still see a folder with a question mark on it
[01:49] <MrKeuner> the serial number shows as a vintage macbook
[01:50] <MrKeuner> but no more details
[01:50] <daftykins> DarkGhost`: so you're trying to fix Win8 to start with?
[01:50] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: all right, all done. used dconf to default everything and then setsid unity. thanks for all the help :)
[01:51] <DarkGhost`> daftykins yes
[01:52] <daftykins> DarkGhost`: technically you can't really get Windows support in here, ##windows instead for that
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: when you say vintage? from what year roughly?
[01:52] <abc_harold> DarkGhost': check here http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-fix-windows-8-mbr-master-boot-record/
[01:52] <Airia> MrKeuner: Im not super familiar with Mac. Older machines may not support booting from a USB device, you may need to burn a bootable disk
[01:53] <MrKeuner> cdrom does not work
[01:53] <MrKeuner> hitsujiTMO, 2004 possibly
[01:53] <flandrs> i have a patch to edit a file in package/debian/file_that_needs editing, so i do a dquilt import patch, and it applies cleanly, but some reason the code remains patched so when i do a dpkg-buildpackage, it tries to re-apply the patch even though the code is already patched
[01:53] <flandrs> this is very strange, cna someone give me a clue
[01:53] <flandrs> same thing happens if i manually add the patch to the series file and drop it in the patches directory, with the original code unmodified
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: then its a powerpc architecture and you need to use a powerpc ISO
[01:55] <DarkGhost`> abc_harold I triedthis :(*
[01:55] <MrKeuner> oh no it is x86 I know that much
[01:55] <MrKeuner> the year might be 2005
[01:55] <MrKeuner> not sure, but early times
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> 2006+ for x86
[01:55] <MrKeuner> hmm
[01:55] <MrKeuner> may be 2006 I am really sorry
[01:55] <MrKeuner> must be x86 I am pretty sure
[01:56] <fmmsilva_> hey
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: do you know what processor it has?
[01:56] <MrKeuner> no
[01:56] <MrKeuner> core duo or core2duo
[01:56] <abc_harold> DarkGhost`: Do you get any windows error, or doesn't it even load the bootloader?
[01:57] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Glad to hear that
[01:57] <fmmsilva_> hey guys.. look: http://www.kilibro.com/books/9780470287064-linux-bible
[01:57] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Odd that it was the nvidia driver
[01:57] <daftykins> abc_harold: we do not give Windows support in here, you are welcome to take the discussion to ##windows but not here.
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: that sounds about right at least
[01:58] <MrKeuner> do not blame me :) I do not own this shit. Just trying to -reuse this junk for some useful purpose
[01:59] <abc_harold> daftykins: Sorry! DarkGhost`: Goto ##windows, I'll try and help you there :)
[01:59] <geekmasterflash> !language | MrKeuner
[02:08] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: ping
[02:13] <chrs_> hi i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i want to use a non-stock kernel form a ppa
[02:13] <chrs_> for "phc" support
[02:13] <chrs_> is that safe to do with apt?
[02:13] <DarkGhost`> i can still liveboot ubuntu is ther anything I can do to try and save my windows mbr?
[02:14] <Pyro_Killer> hello chaps, I have sort of an off topic question, but this channel has always been here when I've been stuck with techy stuff, can i ask about an sql statement?
[02:14] <Pyro_Killer> DarkGhost: if you are runnning windows 7 you can do a wubi installment
[02:14] <chrs_> will it automatically update all my modules?
[02:15] <zykotick9> DarkGhost`: beware of wubi...
[02:16] <Pyro_Killer> wubi is nice, and easily revertable
[02:16] <DarkGhost`> i can still liveboot ubuntu is ther anything I can do to try and save my windows mbr?
[02:17] <Pyro_Killer> use Hiren's boot cd?
[02:17] <DarkGhost`> ?
[02:17] <wheatthin> DarkGhost`, you can use a windows installation cd and run fixmbr
[02:17] <Pyro_Killer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[02:18] <MrKeuner> does startupdisk creator support gpt? I am trying to create a usb disk that could boot a macbook
[02:23] <Ari-Yang> [21:08:55] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: ping ----> yes?
[02:25] <wheatthin> pong?
[02:26] <DarkGhost`> Pyro_Killer I did lilo and it doesn't work
[02:27] <hanasaki> where to get the docs on libc function time(   ?
[02:28] <chrs_> i installed a new kernel image and ran update-grub but i don't see the new image as an option in the grub menu when i boot
[02:28] <Pyro_Killer> DarkGhost`: i feel you hvaen't given enough details, what EXACTLY are you trying to achieve, do you have more then one OS, which windows are you runing?
[02:32] <DarkGhost`> Pyro_Killer I'm trying to get my windows 8 working again, I fucked up something on the mbr and it says missing /efi/boot
[02:33] <Si7> DarkGhost' Easiest solution would be to a windows recovery disk and run repair, it might erase grub
[02:33] <Pyro_Killer> DarkGhost`: Do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader#Via_the_Boot-Repair_graphical_tool
[02:33] <glitsj16> chrs_: depending on how you configured grub it could be hidden under the collapsed 'advanced options' submenu .. good place to start would be checking your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see if it is there i suppose
[02:33] <Pyro_Killer> exatctley how the picture says, see what happens
[02:36] <daftykins> DarkGhost`: i told you earlier that this is the channel for UBUNTU support, go to ##windows
[02:36] <DarkGhost`> windows does'nt know whats going on
[02:36] <daftykins> and you guys - stop enabling him :P you can go there and help but you're in an Ubuntu support channel right now
[02:36] <daftykins> i care not what they're up to
[02:37] <Scip> hey, am I in the right place for asking questions about installing ubuntu on an external HDD?
[02:37] <Scip> it's a WD passport ultra if it matters
[02:38] <geekmasterflash> Scip, What help do you need?
[02:38] <Scip> I have the .iso, I'm just not sure where to go from there
[02:38] <Scip> like when to partition and stuff
[02:38] <xangua> chrs_: what did you exactly install¿
[02:39] <Scip> I'd like to still use the external HDD for backup storage if possible
[02:39] <kangerma_> hey
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Well, I imagine it will present you with the option when you go to install. It will ask you if you want to install Ubuntu/install along side (other os here) or do a manual partition
[02:39] <kangerma_> can i install ubuntu on a macbook
[02:39] <kangerma_> pro
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> Scip, If you want to install it on the external HDD you'd want to the manual option
[02:40] <Scip> geekmasterflash: could I just mount the .iso on Windows and install it to the external HDD?
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Make sure you select the external HDD as the installation location for grub and partition the external HDD for / and /swap if you need it
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> Scip, It's probably better to burn the ISO to a disc or usb
[02:40] <hanasaki> which linux .o lib has the iptables functions?
[02:40] <ianorlindesktop> yes
[02:41] <Scip> ah
[02:41] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Using it as is can require some wonkiness
[02:41] <Scip> does this look good for the USB option? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200124.aspx
[02:41] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Are you in Windows?
[02:42] <Scip> Yeah
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> Scip, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[02:42] <Scip> thanks!
[02:42] <chrs_> xangua: a linux 3.2.0 kernel with phc support
[02:43] <chrs_> i see the kernel image in /boot/grub/grub.cfg but i don't see it when i reboot
[02:45] <darkclown> .105.172.94 31337 clown1141
[02:47] <Scip> geekmasterflash: are there suggested guidelines for how much to partition and the like?
[02:48] <Scip> it's a 1tb HDD, I'm not sure what I really need
[02:48] <Scip> just basic educational coding/dev work
[02:48] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Well
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Scip, How much swap space if any, is determined by how much memory you have and if you want to be able to hibernate to disk
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Scip, which is something people on laptops probably need, while desktops, not so much
[02:49] <tking0036> I have a problem, I have mounted a samba share with fstab, but if I do touch test, it says permission denied, but it creates the file anyways
[02:49] <Scip> I'm on a laptop, 4gb ram/intel i7
[02:50] <Scip> And let's say yes to the hibernate option?
[02:50] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Then you probably want to partition 4gb of swap
[02:50] <Scip> Okay, thanks
[02:50] <Scip> Are there other partitions I should learn about?
[02:50] <geekmasterflash> Scip,  If you are putting all of it on one disk, I generally recommend just formatting the rest /
[02:50] <jbgecko13_> #magic-league
[02:51] <Scip> Okay
[02:51] <Scip> If I'd like to use, say 500GB for just backups
[02:51] <Scip> should I make that a separate partition too?
[02:51] <chrs_> xangua: nvermind i saw the problem
[02:51] <chrs_> there was a "previous linux" submenu in grub
[02:51] <chrs_> i feel stoopid
[02:51] <tking0036> Samba act's like I can't write to the directory, even though I can
[02:52] <chrs_> i "upgraded" from 3.8 to 3.2
[02:52] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: where those 500GB will be? on separate media, disk, mount?
[02:52] <Crell> Hi folks. I have just borked a server and need suggestions on how to fix it. :-)  (Home server.)
[02:52] <Scip> soy: not sure D: I just have a 1 TB external HDD
[02:52] <Scip> and want to use half for storage
[02:52] <Scip> half for ubuntu
[02:52] <Scip> what are the differences?
[02:53] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: ok, so an external disk
[02:53] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Then format 500 GBs as /, and you can leave the rest unformatted or format it as something like /backup
[02:53] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: I asked because sometimes ppl want to store the backups inside the same media they are backing up
[02:53] <Crell> Recently, I had run a normal aptitude update/upgrade.  That inclued a new kernel image.  However, for unknown reasons my /tmp was full.  According to df, it was only 1 MB(!). Not trusting that it was safe to manually empty, I tried restarting.  Now I get a kernel panic, probably due to a borked kernel update.  Suggestions on how to revive it?
[02:53] <Scip> Oh, I see
[02:54] <Scip> As in a backup of ubuntu stuff on the same external HDD?
[02:54] <Crell> I believe it was running Ubuntu Server 13.04.  I've been meaning to upgrade it to 13.10 but haven't yet.
[02:54] <Scip> I guess I don't need that for now
[02:54] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: so this disk is an additional disk or it is where your live OS lives?
[02:54] <Scip> soy: I currently run win7 on a laptop's 128gb ssd
[02:55] <Scip> I have an external 1tb HDD where I just want to install and run ubuntu
[02:55] <crocket> how does ubuntu manage DNS servers fetched from DHCP server on the local machine?
[02:55] <Scip> since I didn't have much space on the ssd
[02:55] <crocket> I want to know where they are saved on the file system.
[02:55] <crocket> Or how I can check them via a command.
[02:55] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: ok, so the external is just for backups, how are you planning to perform the backups? any specific tool?
[02:55] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, The external is not just for backups
[02:55] <Scip> soy: the external is for backups + running ubuntu, ideally
[02:56] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, he is saying that is where is gonna install ubuntu and boot from
[02:56] <Scip> I was thinking of just using windows backup or something, I just need to backup stuff on win7
[02:56] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: ok, I missed that part, just getting the facts straight... ;)
[02:56] <Scip> np :)
[02:56] <ianorlindesktop> ah you will want to install like normal and then select the external on it as the drive you want
[02:58] <Scip> geekmasterflash & soy: okay, so I burned the ubuntu .iso onto a flash drive
[02:58] <Scip> I'll boot into it, install ubuntu on the 1tb external HDD
[02:58] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: I agree with geekmasterflash on the 2 partition (first linux, seccond backups) but th eonly question left is that if you want both OSs to be able to backup there... you need to choose the right FS
[02:58] <Scip> and partition at that time?
[02:58] <Scip> ahh
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> Is there any way to run optirun on gnome?
[02:58] <Scip> soy: I guess I don't have to
[02:59] <Foxhoundz> so that I can use my discrete graphics to accelerate the window manager?
[02:59] <geekmasterflash> Scip, True, I recommend that /backup be formatted ntfs, as windows plays nicest with that.
[02:59] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: from windows partition the drive in two
[02:59] <Scip> okay
[02:59] <Scip> So /backup is ntfs
[02:59] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: and if he wants to do linux backups? he will ran into permission issues if he does file copies....
[03:00] <Scip> and / or /swap are whatever is default?
[03:00] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, NTFS-3G is included in the distro, is it not?
[03:01] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: let's get first ubuntu installed on the first partitions
[03:01] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Also, hasnt linux been able to use ntfs since 2.2?
[03:01] <Scip> okay, sounds good. thanks guys!
[03:01] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: yes, you an access and r/w but if your backup system does file copies, permissions will be "lost in translation"
[03:01] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Fair enough.
[03:02] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: and restoring files from such partition will brin nothing and be defaulted to the directory that contains them
[03:02] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: but, if the backup tool stores like TAR files, permission will be preserved inside the container
[03:03] <crocket> I finally understood how resolvconf works with NetworkManager.
[03:03] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: sometime we overlook those details, I learned the hard way that one! lol
[03:04] <DarkGhost`> how do I mount a dev/sda?
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Yeah, I am actually in the process of reformatting my backup disk right now
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Since I dont want that problem :D
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, What would you recommend instead, ufs?
[03:04] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: that's why at the office we have two backup systems, one for Windows servers and other for my linux boxes
[03:05] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: ext4 I use
[03:05] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Even for a mixed OS backup?
[03:05] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: I go simple, nowadays there are so many different standards to choose from
[03:06] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: we do not mix, windows backup server does only the win boxes, linux backup server does just the linux boxes.
[03:06] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: we use backuppc for the linux boxes, very simple and nice
[03:06] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Well, I only have the one machine
[03:07] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, With a dedicated network backup
[03:07] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, But its a dual boot machine
[03:07] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: if you are planning to do rsyncs keep it simple, ext4 disk will work on any recovery station
[03:07] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: what tool you use for you backups?
[03:08] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: you got me on that one, if you are doing mixed backups, I have no idea... but from linux you can backup your files form the windows partition...
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, It's little FreeNAS server
[03:08] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: nice ;)
[03:08] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: I like FreeNAS
[03:09] <soy_el_pulpo> DarkGhost`: any idea where you want to mount it? /mnt  ?
[03:09] <soy_el_pulpo> DarkGhost`: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I guess I will just partition it in half, and with ntfs for windows and another with ext4
[03:10] <soy_el_pulpo> DarkGhost`: assuming that sda1 is the first partition of your disk
[03:10] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: how you have it now?
[03:11] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, A small partition for the FreeNAS to boot from in ZFS and the rest NTFS
[03:11] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: and if it works, why you want to change it?
[03:12] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: a nice thing of FreeNAS is that you can even boot from an USB and have all the disk for data
[03:12] <linuxlite1969> anyone here knows about pyftpdlib?
[03:12] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I have yet to have catostrophic error where I might need to use it to do a restore, but you said I might have borked permissions?
[03:12] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I'd hate to find that out the first time I do a restore.
[03:13] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: have you cheked them doing a restore? that is the only way to test
[03:13] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: can you restore to a different location? not over your real data
[03:13] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I've got a laptop I don't care about.
[03:13] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Let me find out.
[03:14] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: try that first, if it works, pop a beer and celebrate
[03:35] <Pyro_Killer> Why has not a single guide i have found to make an ubuntu usb stick used LiLi, is there a good reason for this?
[03:36] <Pyro_Killer> It's beautiful, open source and up to date...
[03:36] <Pyro_Killer> this is on windows obviously
[03:36] <Ben64> not really a question for #ubuntu
[03:37] <Pyro_Killer> well, the guide posted earlier features a piece of information from ubuntu
[03:37] <Pyro_Killer> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:38] <Ben64> ok? still not on topic here. this is for ubuntu technical support
[03:38] <Pyro_Killer> fair enough...
[03:44] <Runemoro> I have a question, does rm -rf go into mounted folders too?
[03:53] <rypervenche> Runemoro: Yep.
[03:53] <Runemoro> thank you
[03:54] <Runemoro> Is there any flag to make it unmount the folder instead of deleting it?
[03:58] <rypervenche> Runemoro: You would want to use the find command with -delete
[03:58] <rypervenche> Runemoro: -xdev  Don't descend directories on other filesystems.
[03:59] <Runemoro> rypervenche, thank you :)
[03:59] <rypervenche> Runemoro: Do you know how to use find that way?
[03:59] <Runemoro> rypervenche, yes
[03:59] <rypervenche> Runemoro: Cool. Enjoy :)
[04:00] <diego> 1
[04:01] <Guest11702> 1
[04:11] <rostam> HI I have installed ubuntu 12.04 update 3. when system  boots , I can see the Ethernet MTU size is set to 574 bytes (ifconfig), Is this value set by defaults? thx
[04:16] <Ceninant> Can I format a microSD card to fat (like it's 16gb, only format part of it to fat and leave the rest unformatted)?
[04:18] <DuncanNZ> Ceninant: you would have to partition it then, use gparted
[04:18] <DuncanNZ> sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:19] <chesterlin> hwois ike
[04:24] <Aethrs_> My microphone is feeding sounds into my headset speakers.  This is of course normal so i can hear my own voice and such but in this case it's highly undesirable.  how do i go about turning this off?  I'm using ALSA.  It's not any specific application, happens with no sound applications running.
[04:24] <dyce> is it possible to have a python script (or anything) to force bind to an ipv6 address?
[04:26] <Aethrs> dyce- A python script you're writing ?
[04:29] <Honeyclaw> hi everyone
[04:29] <Guest11702> hi
[04:30] <babinlonston> I Have Installed Ubuntu 12.04 in LVM and if i need to Create a New Virtual machine , How can i take snapshot and what are the steps there to take a snapshot , How can i create a New VM from snapshot
[04:32] <ejv> im sure the process has been well documented online babinlonston; have you tried googling something complex like that?
[04:32] <Aethrs> babinlonston- How is the machine stored?  a LVM volume?
[04:32] <ejv> i think he/she might mean "VM"
[04:32] <babinlonston> ejv: yes i have done , But i don't got a Solution , so what came here :)
[04:33] <Aethrs> Create a LVM snapshot: lvcreate -L10G -s -ntmp_fserver_backup /dev/brace/fserver_root
[04:34] <Aethrs> That'll create a 10G(max) snapshot named "tmp_fserver_backup" from the LVM volume /dev/brace/fserver_root
[04:34] <Aethrs> From there you can make a new logical volume, and dd it in there.
[04:34] <Aethrs> Then make a new KVM machine, and point it at that volume.  You'll want to change the IP address before you bring it on the net live, otherwise it'll collide.. It is a _exact_ duplicate.
[04:36] <MrHacks> So we meet again. The KFHD7 still doesn't connect.  So here's a list of grievances that I hope someone can help me with so I'm not banging my head against the wall in my room for Thanksgiving. http://pastebin.com/xpdF4WcL
[04:36] <nafg_> Can someone help me troubleshoot a udev rules script that's not being run?
[04:38] <vocx> What do you recommend to completely blank a hard drive? I think I can use a fancy tool, or just "dd" somehow. I want to erase a Windows hard drive completely.
[04:38] <ejv> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<windows-partition> bs=4096K
[04:39] <babinlonston> Aethrs: yes its LVM
[04:39] <Aethrs> babinlonston- Taking a break, read above for instructions on how to duplicate a machine.
[04:40] <Aethrs> babinlonston- Best if it's off when you take the snapshot, and make sure to remove the snap after.
[04:40] <vocx> ejv, thanks man.
[04:41] <ejv> vocx: use wisely, one slip up, you could wipe out something important; also `man dd`
[04:41] <babinlonston> Aethrs: let me try your Advice and ill be back :)
[04:41] <Aethrs> babinlonston- Remember the new machine will have the old machine's IP address(!)
[04:41] <ejv> vocx: bs=4096 (no "K") sorry
[04:42] <Aethrs> afk :)
[04:42] <vocx> ejv, for this specific task, I want to destroy something important.
[04:42] <babinlonston> Aethrs: yes i need to change the ip , ill
[04:44] <isosceles> currently the abiword website offers 2.8.6 as most stable. ubuntu software center offers 3.0.0.
[04:44] <vocx> ejv, as far as I know, I would be setting all the blocks to zero, therefore the information there is no longer recoverable, is it?
[04:44] <isosceles> is ubuntu SC behind?
[04:44] <isosceles> or is the development version particularly preferable to the ubuntu user?
[04:46] <__raven> keyboard shortcut does not disable the wireless device any more on 13.10 - any ideas?
[04:46] <isosceles> and my question is general... trust the outdated or beta version that ubuntu SC offers, or go with the version advertised at the developer's website?
[04:47] <Beldar> isosceles, Ubuntu SC?
[04:47] <isosceles> software center
[04:48] <Beldar> isosceles, behind what?
[04:48] <isosceles> behind the developer
[04:48] <Beldar> isosceles, What is in the ubuntu repo is what is supported here.
[04:48] <semitones> 'ello. Is there an easy way to ask the computer what kernel options it booted up with (like no1apic?)
[04:50] <willbradley> what's people's preferred server backup strategy?
[04:50] <Beldar> isosceles, Di you have a link to the developer? use nicks here, you can tab complete them.
[04:50] <zykotick9> semitones: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[04:50] <willbradley> tar -> rsync -> rotation script is kinda lame
[04:50] <Beldar> willbradley, Number of ways to backup, preferred is a personal subject.
[04:50] <isosceles> Beldar -- alright, then you would recommend using the version of an application from the ubuntu repo even if it was not what the developer tells you to install?
[04:51] <isosceles> http://www.abisource.com/
[04:51] <Beldar> isosceles, I don't use the software center, and don't generally need the support I give support primarily
[04:52] <Hormel_Chavez> hi, what is good way to show system stats nicely formatted
[04:52] <Hormel_Chavez> also any good temperature monitoring utility?
[04:52] <Beldar> isosceles, You can use what you want you just have to be aware of what is supported here if needed.
[04:53] <isosceles> beldar, gotcha
[04:53] <isosceles> thanks
[04:53] <Beldar> no problem isosceles
[04:53] <MrHacks> http://pastebin.com/xpdF4WcL
[04:54] <isosceles> i am also interested in backup strategies. not a huge fan of the default ubuntu program, but it works.
[04:54] <shanahan> is it possible to make launcher icons smaller than 32px in 12.04?
[04:55] <Beldar> MrHacks, posting a link with swearing is a rude and against channel policy as directly swearing is.
[04:55] <Beldar> !ops | MrHacks see link
[04:57] <Beldar> isosceles, Personally I have all my stuff on externals and clone the OS's
[05:00] <isosceles> yeah, i also back up to external. guess i'm wondering about alternatives to deja dup. i had an issue with a backup failing when the external was full. i was under the impression that the app would delete old to make room for the new.
[05:01] <MrHacks> What the hell is this thing? "Oh no! He used swears!  WHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" Complete over reaction consdering I'm tired and It took me over an hour to address all the half-complete grieveances that haven't been completed.
[05:01] <MrHacks> This is why Mint is taking over Ubuntu
[05:02] <Beldar> !backup
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !language | MrHacks
[05:03] <Flannel> MrHacks: Please be polite.  The people in this channel are volunteers.
[05:03] <isosceles> MrHacks, thanks for the laughs. glad i don't use a kindle though.
[05:03] <botch> ...Could I ask an "open" question concerning an Ubuntu 13.10 / Gnome Panel issue?
[05:03] <xmetal> oops i forgot i was on IRC
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> botch: yes ask away in channel mate
[05:05] <botch> It's an issue with what I think is no longer the Gnome Panel but part of Ubuntu...  using my laptop a few times where I close the laptop and go back on a few minutes later (usually only once or twice)...after that the wifi disconnects
[05:05] <botch> My touch pad shows wifi is still connected though
[05:06] <botch> I spoke with a tech support guy at work today from Missouri who uses Lubuntu and he referred me to the forums but ...wow...I was overwhelmed
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> botch: it might be related to power settings, your wifi also disconnects
[05:07] <botch> That sounds like it could be related for sure...any advice?
[05:07] <willbradley> Beldar: there should be an EnterpriseUserBackup wiki page :P
[05:07] <MrHacks> isosceles: I just want to take back control of a problem that I know doesn't require me to go out and buy stuff I already have.  And secondly, I know I can do this, it's just that something happened with Ubuntu right before the 13.10 upgrade where MTP/FUSE devices don't want to enumerate.
[05:07] <Beldar> willbradley,  EnterpriseUserBackup? NOt sure what you mean.
[05:07] <kongthap> my ubuntu 13.10 is messed up now, i want to backup firefox's bookmark, but i cannot launch firefox what can i do?
[05:07] <chsados> guys i am in desperate help I keep getting this error with GPA http://i.imgur.com/xJmw2oF.png
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> botch: doublecheck your power settings, and check /var/log/syslog for any related issues
[05:07] <willbradley> one of your links was HomeUserBackup which is the opposite of what I need (and the BackupYourSystem link didn't tell me much I didn't already know)
[05:08] <willbradley> tar + rsync it is, i guess...
[05:08] <xmetal> hmm would the (i forgot what it is) Firefox "safe mode" command be the same in Linux?
[05:08] <fishcooker> is there simple way to connect automatically to a wireless network  after the box is up?
[05:08] <xmetal> (i am asking "for" the person with the firefox issue.. .not myself)
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> chsados: whats the name of this package plz?
[05:08] <xmetal> i never had to start FF in "FF Safe mode" in Linux before
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | fishcooker
[05:09] <Beldar> kongthap, bookmarks are in the .mozilla file it is hidden
[05:09] <chsados> lotuspsychje: GPA 0.9.4 is this what you need?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> chsados: i mean the key manager app
[05:09] <xmetal> personally i use FF to back stuff up ahead of time (in case of a problem)
[05:09] <xmetal> oops that made no sense
[05:09] <chsados> seahorse
[05:09] <zykotick9> !info gpa | lotuspsychje
[05:09] <kongthap> xmetal, i cannot open both firefox and chrome, i can open nautilus. is it posible to copy bookmark files ?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: tnx mate
[05:09] <xmetal> lol ... i meant the FEBE Firefox Addon
[05:10] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i'd recommend, not using it!
[05:10] <willbradley> xmetal: http://linux.die.net/man/1/firefox
[05:10] <kongthap> Beldar, where is the .mozilla located???
[05:10] <willbradley> "man firefox" suggests `firefox -safe-mode`
[05:10] <kongthap> Beldar, in the home directory???
[05:10] <Beldar> kongthap, in the bookmarks backup folder, loo around.
[05:10] <tacheny> I have a quick question I use Ubuntu on a daily basis I have been for about 4 years but I would like to know how to access netflix on Ubuntu I usually use my Playstation because Netflix is not compatible for Linux?
[05:10] <Beldar> look*
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: so the error for chsados could be related to unstable package?
[05:10] <xmetal> your home directly i'd say
[05:11] <kongthap> willbradley, you meant go to the terminal and type 'firefox -safe-mode'???
[05:11] <chsados> would it be wise to unisntall gpa and reinstall?  doesnt GPA come with ubuntu by default?
[05:11] <botch> lotuspsy.... (i haven't figure out this XChat software just yet, just installed it) ... I'm not sure how to access that log file.  Is that in the home folder?
[05:11] <willbradley> xmetal: err, that link doesn't say it unfortunately. but when i type man firefox i get a safe-mode entry
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> chsados: you might wanna search alternatives then like zykotick9 sugested
[05:11] <Beldar> kongthap, .mozilla it is hidden hit ctrl-h to un hide any file preceded with a period is hidden.
[05:11] <willbradley> kongthap: yup
[05:11] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i suggested a while ago that chsados should use the terminal gpg - they disagreed ;)  i didn't even check what the error was this time...
[05:12] <chsados> i dont want terminal :P
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> chsados: its wise to follow advice in chat here mate...
[05:12] <xmetal> to get it working you would need to
[05:12] <chsados> tails has a beautiful gpgApplet gpgApplet
[05:12] <chsados> https://tails.boum.org/doc/encryption_and_privacy/gpgapplet/
[05:13] <kongthap> xmetal, i've looked for bookmark backup or sync solution, FEBE is good right???
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> botch: you can use the logviewer also
[05:14] <isosceles>  what room do stupid bring their questions to?
[05:14] <Beldar> kongthap, firefox has a built in sync
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !language | isosceles
[05:14] <isosceles> what that's hilarious
[05:15] <kongthap> Beldar, i used to look for the built-in sync, i thought i made for sync between desktop and mobile, i was wrong right???
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-tweak-tool | botch maybe this will help tweak power settings
[05:15] <isosceles> my was a serious question. i have novice (i.e. "stupid") questions
[05:16] <Beldar> kongthap, THe firefox sync is for sync from any firefox to another.
[05:16] <kongthap> Beldar, thanks for that :)
[05:17] <kongthap> ok, thanks for all you guys suggestions, i will reboot into ubuntu and try those :)
[05:19] <botch> I really appreciate the help but I've noticed I'm terribly non-versed in Linux.  I have contributed to the Ubuntu os as well as the Ubuntu phone just because I want the freedom to choose something other than Windows, Blackberry, Android or Apple.  I do think I need a lot more training / studying of how to navigate around Linux and understand what things are in Linux, and more specifically Ubuntu.
[05:19] <botch> You guys are wonderful, thank you for the advice.  I'm going for a drink......
[05:31] <tux_1> will nmap work thru proxychains?
[05:32] <bhavesh> How can I get back my last clipboard data after I do ctrl + c again? Do I lose it forever?
[05:32] <hurdorbsd> I installed ubuntu with encrypted installation and even encrypted my home folder .. it asked me created a passphrase which i enter everytime I login .. But also asked me to save a auto gen pass phrase to future
[05:32] <hurdorbsd> Would some1 explain me the situation?
[05:34] <hurdorbsd> bhavesh bhavesh .. tame nathi pata?
[05:39] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, I don't encrypt, however here is a reference page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
[05:40] <hurdorbsd> When I mount an external HDD I get Error when getting information for file '/media/bud/New Volume/xubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso': Input/output error.
[05:40] <hurdorbsd> It still has data .. what 2 do ??
[05:44] <babinlonston> Aethrs: Created a Snapshot , where will the Created Snapshot stored ?
[05:44] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, If the last four posts you have made are related, you might explain this in more detail to the channel.
[05:44] <babinlonston> Aethrs: and how can i Use it for Creating a New VM ?
[05:45] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, There are multiple ways to mount HD, be specific there, and what type of partitioning on the external HD is helpful.
[05:46] <wheatthin> hurdorbsd, in other words run   sudo parted -l and paste it @ pastebin
[05:47] <_joey> is there software to control smartphones?
[05:47] <Beldar> not hardly in other words but you go, hehe
[05:48] <eg0x> _joey: ask them - www.nsa.gov *scnr*
[05:49] <Beldar> _joey, Control in what way?
[05:51] <_joey> the way they are controlled in ms windows  organisation of phone book, sending sms etc
[05:52] <_joey> maybe wine could be a solution?
[05:53] <Beldar> _joey, never seen a sms sending in windows, but you can mount it most likely or use airdroid if android.
[05:53] <_joey> nokia suite has the feature
[05:55] <Beldar> _joey, This is neither MS or nikia support, so you will somewhat have to be real specific, not everyone here uses any of thise are even a smart phone.
[05:55] <calinba> Hi all
[05:55] <Beldar> those*
[05:55] <calinba> Dexter what up
[05:56] <_joey> I asked a direct question if there is a software on linux to control smart phones
[05:56] <_joey> Beldar:
[05:57] <_joey> if you don't know the answer, then stay quiet
[05:57] <_joey> you contribution about ubuntu being a linux specific chanel is worthless in the context
[05:58] <wheatthin> _joey, then leave, this is an ubuntu support channel only.. go get a life.
[05:59] <_joey> < _joey> is there software to control smartphones?
[05:59] <_joey> on ubuntu
[05:59] <wheatthin> that's not support for ubuntu, that's support for smartphones
[05:59] <wheatthin> k thanks.
[06:00] <_joey> ubuntu has a large repository which people discuss here including GNU packages
[06:00] <wheatthin> and, you weren't being specific, and instead you go off about staying quiet. lol
[06:01] <wheatthin> What do you need to control on the phone? lol
[06:01] <wheatthin> that would be something more specific.
[06:03] <mastershake> hey, i just put a fresh xubuntu 13.10 install on my netbook but the sound icon is broke and I don't know how to fix it, any ideas?
[06:13] <Beldar> mastershake, I see this issue on the #ubuntustudio channel and at other times seems to be a problem for more than just you.
[06:14] <mastershake> i see. has there been a fix yet?
[06:15] <Beldar> mastershake, I'm not seeing any bug with a search on that release and sound icon, seems like there might a time for one.
[06:15] <Beldar> bug report that is
[06:18] <mastershake> hmm. whats the command that displays sound levels in terminal again? maybe that'll work
[06:18] <mastershake> mix something, i think?
[06:18] <zykotick9> mastershake: alsamixer
[06:18] <mastershake> that's the one
[06:19] <semitones> hello
[06:19] <mastershake> yeah that works perfectly fine lol
[06:19] <semitones> I tried starting up ubuntu, and got the dots, but now I have a garbled screen.  Should I go to a virtual terminal, or restart using a special boot mode?
[06:21] <Beldar> !nomodeset | semitones might be worth a try
[06:21] <Beldar> semitones, This is using a usb on a virtual?
[06:21] <semitones> Beldar, thanks! Is that something that I can disable once I have the correct drivers?
[06:22] <semitones> Beldar, no it's on real hardware. I thought I could press ctrl alt f1 to get the virtual terminal, and fix the graphics that way maybe
[06:22] <babinlonston> Hi all How can i start installing Ubuntu in CLI mode
[06:23] <semitones> babinlonston, download the alternate cd image from the 'more downloads' area of ubuntu.com
[06:23] <zykotick9> babinlonston: use the mini.iso
[06:23] <Beldar> semitones, Ah, try the nomodeset option, it is per boot.
[06:23] <zykotick9> semitones: i thought the alternate image was discontinued...
[06:23] <Beldar> semitones, what release?
[06:23] <semitones> Beldar, ok. One thing I've noticed with that though, if I use nomodeset, will I always have to boot with it?
[06:24] <babinlonston> zykotick9: now way to setup using 12.04 Disc ?
[06:24] <semitones> zykotick9, you're probably right -- I haven't been following too closely
[06:24] <zykotick9> babinlonston: the regular one - NO
[06:24] <babinlonston> okay
[06:25] <Beldar> semitones, nomodeset is a low graphic boot hard to say as future use without specific graphic hardware info. My guess would be no.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> is there a command i can use to measure how much memory a program eats?
[06:25] <zykotick9> !alternate
[06:25] <semitones> lotuspsychje, do you know about top?
[06:26] <semitones> Beldar, ok, good :)
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> semitones: i was looking for one program only, like firefox start from terminal example
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> then measure its memory usage
[06:26] <semitones> oh like graph it?
[06:26] <Beldar> I think the alternate is still there for 12.04 is all.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> semitones: not nescesary, but one program
[06:27] <semitones> why don't you just search that one program in top?
[06:28] <babinlonston> zykotick9: can i install in CLI mode using Server ISO ?
[06:29] <zykotick9> babinlonston: yes, but i'd still recommend mini
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> semitones: checking man top, ill find maybe to monitor a single pid tnx
[06:30] <babinlonston> zykotick9:  Why i'm Need it , cos i need to setup LVM in CLI so what
[06:30] <semitones> lotuspsychje, good luck! I think there are other similar programs to top as well that might be helpful -- does pgrep sound familiar?
[06:30] <zykotick9> babinlonston: ? then try server
[06:30] <semitones> I forget if that's a real program
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !info pgrep
[06:30] <babinlonston> zykotick9: ok
[06:31] <semitones> definitely got the wrong name :P -- there are some other versions of top that  might be useful, just can't remember them
[06:31] <zykotick9> htop is good!
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> semitones: egrep, fgrep, rgrep maybe?
[06:31] <purplesunshine> I'm running Raring and I'm trying to execute an SH script, but it just opens GEdit. I've run chmod +x, edited the properties, but it still just opens gedit.
[06:32] <purplesunshine> How can I make this SH script ask me what I want it to do?
[06:32] <semitones> lotuspsychje, it's not anything to do with grep -- ptop maybe
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> semitones: ok tnx
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:36] <purplesunshine> Hello? Can anyone assist me with my SH troubles?
[06:37] <hurdorbsd> how to install ttf in ubuntu
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> !fonts
[06:41] <purplesunshine> This is why late-night support doesn't work. Because there's never anyone available.
[06:42] <guest-OUYTDq> #ubuntu studio
[06:43] <guest-OUYTDq> #ubuntustudio
[06:46] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, If you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras you get tty, flash and other codecs/
[06:47] <guest-OUYTDq> #ubuntu
[06:48] <Beldar> purplesunshine, In the US it is thanksgiving evening, waiting ten min and complaining is not productive.
[06:49] <Neozonz> any logrotate guru out there? need some help...
[06:49] <semitones> Beldar, do you know, once I install the proprietary driver, how do I make it take effect?
[06:49] <uzer23> hey does anyone know why debconf-get-selections | grep "phpmyadmin" returns nothing? I thought it would show me the variables for phpmyadmin questions
[06:49] <purplesunshine> Beldar, I am in the US and it's almost 1AM CST
[06:50] <uzer23> 12.04 lts
[06:50] <uzer23> btw
[06:51] <semitones> !graphics
[06:51] <semitones> !gfx
[06:51] <semitones> !nvidia
[06:53] <GrendelT> which runs first udev or /etc/init scripts?
[06:54] <GrendelT> init?
[06:55] <wheatthin> Umm udev is populated first.
[06:56] <guest-OUYTDq> in u studio v13.10.  don't see 'restricted drivers' or 'nVidia Xserver settings' menu. if, it downloaded geforce 610 1 GB card driver, where might it be?
[06:56] <A1Recon> Is there a way to know if Geany compiles the C code in C99 or some other mode?
[06:56] <motheus> hello
[06:56] <GrendelT> wheatthin: so if i have a daemon that expects a udev-named device, it's okay to put that in init?
[06:56] <wheatthin> guest, please use the repo, sudo apt-get nvidia-current
[06:57] <GrendelT> wheatthin: i see a udev.conf in /etc/init...
[06:57] <motheus> hey ppl, there is any mixer for ubuntu? i mean, to mix frequencies, not app volume
[06:57] <guest-OUYTDq> ok thank you. i'll check Synaptic to see if nvidia-current is installed.
[06:57] <wheatthin> right, it's the first to load, then the rest of the init
[06:57] <GrendelT> motheus: where are the freq coming from?
[06:58] <wheatthin> no, if there's a device, you need to add it to modprobe.d
[06:58] <motheus> audo frequencies, the system
[06:58] <motheus> to customize bass, treble
[06:58] <motheus> etc
[06:58] <allstarsnorks2> HI guys, how do I install themes on Ubuntu GNOME 13.10?
[06:58] <semitones> How do you restart X?
[06:59] <GrendelT> oh - look in the software center for alsa tools
[06:59] <wheatthin> motheus, please use one line online... And there are called equalizers or synthisizers
[06:59] <wheatthin> use on one line* lol
[06:59] <semitones> found it sudo restart lightdm
[06:59] <GrendelT> wheatthin : for example, i want to name a USB-to-serial device "radio" instead of ttyUSB0
[06:59] <GrendelT> did that in udev
[06:59] <GrendelT> with a rule
[07:00] <GrendelT> then after it gets the alias, i want a daemon to be launched that utilizes that device
[07:00] <guest-OUYTDq> dang it. can't get 'sudo' logged in as Guest.
[07:00] <wheatthin> why?
[07:00] <chsados> hey guys, remember me with the GPA error?  I found out if I run sudo gpa from command it works!  why is it forcing me to use sudo?
[07:00] <hurdorbsd> Beldar I can't get my ttf working in Abiword
[07:00] <motheus> ok
[07:00] <GrendelT> and since i'll know the alias i gave it, that'll be more specific than trying to guess if i'ts ttyUSB0 ttyUSB1 etc
[07:01] <wheatthin> GrendelT, so why not hardlink it?
[07:01] <motheus> downloading alsa tools tranks GrendellT
[07:01] <GrendelT> because it's not always hooked up
[07:01] <motheus> one more question
[07:01] <wheatthin> Umm that's now how usb works.
[07:01] <GrendelT> and that device and another USB-to-serial convertor flipflop
[07:02] <GrendelT> i could hardlink it, but what would i hardlink to? *any* ttyUSB?
[07:02] <motheus> does proprietary ATI drivers are being installed by default? do i have to do something to install them as i want to play with steam?
[07:02] <GrendelT> steam should work
[07:02] <motheus> i had gentoo and radeon had no 3d accel
[07:03] <wheatthin> motheus, propriety drivers aren't by default.   sudo apt-get install fglrx
[07:03] <wheatthin> motheus, you have to configure gentoo for it. but this isn't the channel.
[07:03] <motheus> i had gentoo, now im trying ubuntu
[07:03] <wheatthin> should have worked just fine either way, but ok.. welcome to ubuntu.
[07:04] <hurdorbsd> You had gentooooo and now you want ubuntu ??
[07:04] <hurdorbsd> What went wrong with gentoo?
[07:04] <GrendelT> well, at any rate hardlinking would NOT be a good solution because the target keeps moving. (it's not the same ttyUSB on each plugin, because... that's how USB works)
[07:04] <wheatthin> hurdorbsd, anything can go wrong with gentoo :P
[07:04] <GrendelT> that's what udev accomplishes... it does name regex and assigns symlinks for you
[07:04] <motheus> because i need to code and dont have the time for my gentoo T_T im buyind a new hard driver for my gentoo anyway
[07:05] <Jordan_U> motheus: Proprietary drivers are not installed by default, you can use the "Additional Drivers" portion of Ubuntu Software Center to install them (which will also properly configure them).
[07:05] <wheatthin> GrendelT, So what makes you think renaming or moving the device when it's populated randomly?
[07:05] <hurdorbsd> Ubuntu is the most popular GNu/Linux
[07:05] <wheatthin> will even work that is*
[07:05] <GrendelT> udev?
[07:05] <wheatthin> yup.
[07:05] <GrendelT> are you familiar with udev ?
[07:06] <motheus> every KDE update was like 1 day compiling with gentoo, lets check ubuntu
[07:06] <GrendelT> like, that's what udev is for
[07:06] <GrendelT> identifying random USB devices and naming them accordingly
[07:06] <GrendelT> that's how your system knows a keyboard from a tty
[07:06] <wheatthin> GrendelT, umm it's basically a device library that is generated from the kernel... it's not just for USB, but ok.. it's for all plug in play devices
[07:07] <GrendelT> yeah --- dynamic device config
[07:07] <hurdorbsd> Guys I install a few local fonts manually .. I did it .. but it is not showing my fonts in AbiWord .. I mean it shows them but won't show preview of the fonts and neither would it show when I type em
[07:07] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: You should be able to write an upstart configuration file that will be triggered when the device becomes available, or simply check for existance of the device in the existing start script for that service.
[07:07] <GrendelT> but udev rules allows you to match based on the USB id
[07:08] <GrendelT> jordan_u well, original question was... at what point in the boot process does udev begin
[07:08] <wheatthin> at boot.. lol
[07:08] <GrendelT> i want to fire off a daemon to use the device after it's received it's new name
[07:09] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: In the initramfs, but that doesn't neccessarily tell you when the device will become available, for example some devices are very slow to initialize and so the machine may be completely booted by the time the device is ready to be used.
[07:09] <GrendelT> hmm
[07:10] <motheus> so... any equalizer using pulseaudio?
[07:10] <Defender__> :3
[07:10] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: Hence why you should have an upstart configuration that is triggered when the device becomes available (under the name you need).
[07:11]  * Defender__ is writing :3
[07:11] <GrendelT> gotcha
[07:11] <GrendelT> i think another idea just dawned on me
[07:11] <GrendelT> udev can run scripts it seems
[07:12] <GrendelT> and that'll be when the device is detected either at boot or device insert
[07:12] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: In fact you could probably add starting the service to the udev rule.
[07:12] <GrendelT> if i can find a way for it to kill that daemon when the device is unplugged... that'd be neat
[07:12] <GrendelT> yeah
[07:12] <GrendelT> that's what i was just reading
[07:13] <GrendelT> good times
[07:21] <semitones> There's a problem with ubiquity
[07:22] <semitones> i click it, and it blinks the icon a bit, but nthing happens
[07:23] <semitones> i try to start it from terminal maybe that will work... hmm
[07:23] <semitones> not doing anything
[07:23] <semitones> wthat's wrong
[07:24] <hurdorbsd> y is linux upto 15% faster in copying files
[07:24] <trelane> I'm having issues with 13.10 and a radeon 4250... apparently it's not being detected
[07:24] <hurdorbsd> ok
[07:25] <hurdorbsd> trelane use fglrx-updates then
[07:25] <GrendelT> that fixed it. using the RUN+=" " in the udev rules
[07:26] <GrendelT> so now it identifies the device, starts the daemon and even cleanly shutsdown on removal
[07:26] <GrendelT> so elegant. i likes.
[07:30] <trelane> hurdorbsd, installing now
[07:31] <hurdorbsd> okay good it would make your system detect it but performance is not as good as on Windows
[07:31] <hurdorbsd> Are you using a Laptop?
[07:31] <trelane> yeah, trying to fix up an old laptop for a friend
[07:31] <semitones> how do you kill a zombie process (ubiquity)
[07:31] <trelane> semitones,  kill -9 ?
[07:32] <trelane> err kill -9 <PID>
[07:32] <semitones> i'll try
[07:32] <trelane> you can get the pid from 'ps aux'
[07:32] <trelane> :)
[07:32] <semitones> it's still there -- I did pgrep to get the PID
[07:33] <trelane> hurdorbsd, installed it still getting the "your system is running in low graphics mode" "how would you like to reconfigure it".  Attempted to use generic, no joy.
[07:33] <trelane> semitones, hit it with a few more -9's, check 'dmesg' and syslog
[07:33] <semitones> hmm k
[07:33] <semitones> what's -15?
[07:33] <trelane> kill -9 should end a task, PERIOD, if it's not you have a larger problem (reboot)
[07:34] <hurdorbsd> ok
[07:34] <buu> kill -9 *does* end a task
[07:34] <buu> Its a zombie now
[07:34] <a4343> I visited this club tonight that I have not seen in several years. They closed it down. it is a dark, empty, dead building.   No more cinnamon,  no more school girl outfits, no more mini dresses.  No someone deemed it to be a threat to their control and subjugation over the people here.  They must have decided we cant have skimpy outfits. Not that is a threat. we cant  have that becuase, it is just I guess not acceptable to them.   Sad
[07:34] <trelane> SIGTERM
[07:34] <trelane> -15 is SIGTERM
[07:34] <buu> semitones: You can't kill a zombie because it's already dead, duh
[07:34] <buu> semitones: That's the whole point
[07:34] <buu> semitones: If you want the process to go away you have to either convince its parent to "reap" it or just kill its parent
[07:35] <semitones> buu, but how do I find it's parent?
[07:36] <buu> *its
[07:36] <buu> I think its in /proc/pid someplace or perhaps htop or similar
[07:36] <semitones> I don't want to restart b/c it took so long to get the drivers correct.  You allowed this to happen.
[07:37] <buu> That was a really, really odd troll.
[07:38] <Levex> buu: $ cat /proc/self/status
[07:38] <Levex> buu: Here PPID is the parent's process id
[07:38] <Levex> buu: Obviously, replace self with your zombie's pid or whatever
[07:39] <buu> Levex: Please address semitones
[07:39] <semitones> thanks
[07:40] <Levex> buu: Ah yes, thank you :D
[07:49] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MYDf4b6yg
[07:51] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFESxQ4lkI
[07:51] <Beldar> !spam | tUCKER
[07:51] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFESxQ4lkI
[07:51] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFESxQ4lkI
[07:51] <FloodBot1> tUCKER: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <v_y> is there a live usb image with chrome installed?
[07:57] <trelane> so I ended up completely deleting the fglrx driver, it loads into xorg, or whatever it is no but there's no unity, no panel, and no top bar, the icons and background do appear.  Unity panel service is running
[07:57] <trelane> trying to start unity gets me opengl not loaded
[07:59] <v_y> is there a live usb image with chrome installed?
[08:05] <hungnv> hello guys, when mouting ntfs with ntfs-3g driver using default option, I use application download file from internet and store in mount point of ntfs drive, forr example /mnt/ntfs . ntfs-3g buffer write to large chunk before writing data to disk. How can I prevent this?
[08:06] <Beldar> hungnv, This a stand alone ntfs partition, your loading using ubuntu?
[08:06] <hungnv> Beldar, yes
[08:08] <Beldar> hungnv, Isn't the mount point the partition, not sure I understand.
[08:08] <muxdemux_> I have a faulty graphics card. It's NVidia GeForce GT 430. Is there a utility or something similar in Ubuntu, which will compare the output from the graphics card with the output that should be given, if it was not faulty? The graphics card had one of it's chips soldered in a service center. I get those messy lines on my screen, like the signal picks up noise from somewhere, but that's not the problem, as i've previously mentioned. Any ideas? Thanks in
[08:08] <muxdemux_> advance.
[08:11] <hungnv> Beldar, for example, I have sda disk with sda1 format as ntfs partition, and use ntfs-3g to mount it as mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs -o rw
[08:11] <hungnv> i write an download application to download data from internet and store data in /mnt/ntfs
[08:13] <Beldar> hungnv, Not sure.
[08:13] <hungnv> ntfs-3g driver buffer data in memory into large chunk, let say about 50Megabytes, and write that buffer to disk at a time, I dont want it as like that, I want if my appkication download speed as 2MB/s, 2MB will be written to disk immediately, no buffer
[08:13] <muxdemux_> I have a faulty graphics card. It's NVidia GeForce GT 430. Is there a utility or something similar in Ubuntu, which will compare the output from the graphics card with the output that should be given, if it was not faulty? The graphics card had one of it's chips soldered in a service center. I get those messy lines on my screen, like the signal picks up noise from somewhere, but that's not the problem, as i've previously mentioned. Any ideas? Thanks in
[08:13] <muxdemux_> advance.
[08:15] <muxdemux_> Why the up/down volume button on the taskbar won't give me the [0 - 100] graphical slider line?
[08:16] <muxdemux_> Why the up/down volume button on the taskbar won't give me the [0 - 100] graphical slider line?
[08:16] <dibs> I'm trying to set my mbr to dual boot again after I upgraded windows to 8.1 and lost my ubuntu 13.10 but am not sure which partition is mbr
[08:17] <Beldar> dibs, The mbr is not a partition.
[08:17] <dibs> ah..
[08:18] <kyloth> is there a free valid windows program that emulates an unbuntu terminal. i have been practicing from "THE LINUX COMMAND LINE" and i dont want to fall behind on my practice but i am not allowed to put linux on this computer so i was wondering if there was a windows emulator for a linux termanl ubuntu based
[08:18] <Beldar> dibs, This a gpt W8.1 and ubuntu still there, but your booting straight to windows?
[08:18] <dibs> Beldar: Could you help at all? I have an ubuntu 12.10 which when selected at boot gives me acces to my old boot menu with ubuntu and windows but I don't know how to make it stick without the bootdisk
[08:18] <dibs> Yeah straight to windows
[08:19] <dibs> It's like I'm being sent to hell everyboot
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> kyloth: ask in ##windows please
[08:19] <kyloth> make a live disk or get some burnable cd's atleast one gig and make a bootdisk to install you new os
[08:19] <Beldar> dibs, For me it would help to to the bootscript, you familiar with the bootrepair app?
[08:19] <Beldar> see*
[08:19] <dibs> I have the url
[08:20] <Beldar> dibs, If a fresh read post that.
[08:20] <kyloth> lotus psychje... i came here because windows users are fucking retards and i wanted an ubuntu geek to let me know what windows program best emulates the ubuntu terminal
[08:20] <Beldar> !language | kyloth
[08:21] <kyloth> so no... i wont go to #windows because even though i was looking for a windows program. im looking for linux programming available on windows
[08:21] <Levex> kyloth: Cygwin?
[08:21] <muxdemux_> I won't get any sound output from the speakers. What could the problem be?
[08:21] <kyloth> is there a free valid windows program that emulates an unbuntu terminal. i have been practicing from "THE LINUX COMMAND LINE" and i dont want to fall behind on my practice but i am not allowed to put linux on this computer so i was wondering if there was a windows emulator for a linux terminal ubuntu based
[08:21] <muxdemux_> Why the up/down volume button on the taskbar won't give me the [0 - 100] graphical slider line?
[08:21] <dibs> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6488438/
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> kyloth, just use a VM
[08:22] <kyloth> levex... cygwin is an emulator for a linux terminal? what is VM?
[08:22] <muxdemux_> I won't get any sound output from the speakers. What could the problem be?
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> VIRTUAL MACHINE
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> oops left caps on
[08:23] <gr33n7007h> download ubuntu iso and load it up into the VM
[08:23] <kyloth> well i was asking for a hyperlink to a good emulator. like i said its not my comp but i am gonna be working on it so i can install linux but i can install a program that emulates linux.... she doesnt want me partitioning her drive
[08:24] <kyloth> VM sounds like a decent idea i already have the iso
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> kyloth: how about installing ubuntu on your machine, and loose windows once and for good :p
[08:24] <kyloth> i wish i could lotus but as i stated 3 times... its not my machine
[08:25] <kyloth> im jsut staying with my friend for a couple weeks and dont want to fall behind on my CLI practice
[08:25] <Sven_vB> hi! there's this one config file that i'm asked to replace on every upgrade. is there a way to specify that this file, i always want to keep my way? nad maybe instead write the new maintainer's version ro /etc/program.conf.maint so i gave the latest defaults always nearby?
[08:25] <Beldar> dibs, Did you run the repair on the bootrepair?
[08:26] <kyloth> well greentooth sof ar has the best idea so thanks for that
[08:26] <kyloth> i think im just gonna run a VM it sounds like the most calid idea so far
[08:26] <kyloth> Valid*
[08:26] <Sven_vB> (also, please excuse my typing. i overestimated how awake my hands would be.)
[08:29] <muxdemux_> I won't get any sound output from the speakers. What could the problem be? I am using Xubuntu 13.10. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !sound | muxdemux_
[08:32] <dibs> Beldar: Yeah I did but still booted to windows. I got a message about being in eufi mode but if I change that in bios nothing boots
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> dibs: dod you disable secure boot in bios?
[08:35] <dibs> lotuspsychje: yeah it's off
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> dibs: and you cant boot into ubuntu?
[08:35] <lloowen_> Hello all. Just messing aroun with run levels. When I use the command 'runlevel' in the cli. I see N 2 what does the 'N' mean?
[08:35] <Beldar> dibs, I would post that url with your description here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[08:35] <dibs> It's like the cd ubuntu see's the original grub too, I don't even get a chance to boot to the live cd
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> !runlevel | lloowen_
[08:36] <dibs> baardsf: I posted it before http://paste.ubuntu.com/6488438/
[08:36] <dibs> doh
[08:36] <dibs> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6488438/
[08:37] <Beldar> dibs, here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[08:37] <BlackDalek> Help!! my eog (image viewer) is crashing instantly every time it is started, either by opening (any) image file or starting the program from terminal or dash icon. I am using Ubuntu 13.04 GNOME Image Viewer 3.6.2
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> dibs: did you follow the uefi guid to install?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: any errors when you start eog from terminal?
[08:39] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, yes - "g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting. Terminated"
[08:39] <lloowen_> lotuspsychje: Didnt understatnd what you meant with !runlevel
[08:39] <Sven_vB> found it, --force-confold and friends
[08:44] <Scip> hey, I just installed ubuntu on an external HDD partition
[08:45] <Scip> I want to be able to use the rest for windows backups, is there a best way to format that?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: sounds like a bug to me
[08:45] <Beldar> Scip, There has to be a ntfs and it has to be the first partition
[08:45] <helmut_> hi
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Scip
[08:46] <Scip> !info gparted
[08:46] <Scip> it has to be the first?
[08:46] <Scip> I have gparted
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Scip: you can format partitions with gparted in any format you like
[08:47] <Scip> lotus: okay, I think I just did that
[08:47] <Scip> but it's /sdb5
[08:47] <BlackDalek> Does anyone else have eog (image viewer) crashing instantly problem?
[08:47] <Scip> /sdb1 and /sdb2 are swap and ext3 for ubuntu, respectively
[08:48] <Scip> does that mean I need to change something?
[08:48] <Beldar> Scip, By windows backups you mean with it's restore function>
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: maybe try a reinstall of eog? if not work i would bug it
[08:48] <Scip> Doesn't have to be, I just need to back up important ifles
[08:48] <Scip> so even copy/paste is okay
[08:48] <Scip> @Beldar
[08:49] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok - I've already purged and re-installed eog. That still failed. In the mean time, what is an alternative I can install as replacement to eog so that I an view my image files again?
[08:50] <BlackDalek> *can
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: shotwell is installed by default
[08:50] <Beldar> Scip, I beleive if there is not permissions involved or specific ntfs needed partitioning you could just store them in the ubuntu with a copy and paste from it. How is ubuntu running in that external?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, risetto
[08:51] <Scip> Beldar: ubuntu is working
[08:51] <BlackDalek> I mean a lightweight, simple thing, like document viewer or eog... not a full fledged photo organiser/viewer
[08:52] <Scip> What I mean is, say I filled up the ubuntu partition with stuff
[08:52] <Scip> could I still use the other half of the external like a usb flash drive?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !info gpicview | BlackDalek
[08:52] <Scip> Either from windows to that half, or from ubuntu
[08:53] <Beldar> Scip, I believe as far as windows reading that hard drive it would have to be a ntfs and a first partition, but ubuntu can read windows.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you might wanna check /var/log/syslog for eog errors aswell to help debug
[08:53] <Scip> Beldar: oh, shoot. does that mean I'd need to reinstall ubuntu?
[08:53] <Scip> and parition so that it's at the end
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: can you eog --version in terminal?
[08:54] <Beldar> Scip, I would check the web or the ##windows channel on that really just to be sure, I know it's that way with usb flash.
[08:54] <Scip> okay, thanks
[08:55] <Beldar> Scip, You can use gparted to copy and paste whole partitions, so depending on what is there and space you could move and reassign partitions.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: seems like we at version 3.8.2 now
[08:56] <Scip> Beldar: ah that helps, I'l look into it. thanks!
[08:57] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, the one which installs from the repository is 3.6.2 for eog
[08:57] <jellow> can I mount a printer using sshfs and use it instead of samba ?
[08:57] <Beldar> Scip, No problem if you move ubuntu just has to be an equal or bigger partition, but you can resize it smaller if needed, the ntfs for this can be in an extended if not needed to boot windows.
[08:57] <lionrouge> hi !
[08:57] <enbergj> please educate me for I am obviously missing something: to set up Java SDK it is not enough to just install some files somewhere, you also need to set up the JAVA_HOME environment variable .. now if you install openjdk-7-jdk, it does not set up this environment variable .. why?
[08:57] <lionrouge> my Ubuntu 13.10 doesn't let me switch keyboard layouts when the screen is blocked
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !info eog | BlackDalek
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: try update maybe?
[08:59] <lionrouge> enbergj: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:59] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, Do I have to upgrade to Saucy to install that?
[09:00] <enbergj> lionrouge: that doesn't seem to answer my question .. why doesn't openjdk-7-jdk installation finish installing the JDK, which includes setting up the environment variable?
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: not sure, maybe its possible from 13.04 also
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i had one bug once on a system with eog, showing pictures with green on 13.04
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: we will soon have to upgrade anyway
[09:04] <BlackDalek> I'll upgrade when I have time. Just needed a working image viewer now while I am working. gpicview is doing the trick, so I will leave it at that for now. Thanks.
[09:05] <muxdemux_> What should i do, in order to install the NVidia drivers? I've downloaded them as a .run file.
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: Switch to another console (Ctrl-Alt-F2), then stop the x server with "sudo service lightdm stop"
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: then make it executable with "chmod +x filename.run"
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: Then run it "sudo ./filename.run"
[09:06] <blognewb> hey guys since when has the market channel been off?
[09:06] <blognewb> or turned off
[09:06] <cfhowlett> blognewb, market what?
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: However, be aware you can just install it from the repository instead: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:06] <muxdemux_> Rory: And after that, should i start the x server again?
[09:07] <Rory> muxdemux_: No you should reboot after
[09:07] <geirha> enbergj: It doesn't set up JAVA_HOME because it gets installed in the location where java will look if JAVA_HOME is not set
[09:07] <blognewb> cfhowlett, #bitcoin-market
[09:07] <Rory> blognewb: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[09:07] <cfhowlett> blognewb, wrong channel.  This is #ubuntu.  Move on.
[09:07] <blognewb> Rory, sorry i apologize
[09:07] <muxdemux_> Rory:Thanks a lot, i will try to install it with the repository :)
[09:07] <muxdemux_> from*
[09:07] <generalster> hello all, can anyone guide me to a room to discuss the development of a kernel module? I've found some stuff about hp acpi fan control not implemented anywhere
[09:08] <Rory> muxdemux_: Great, it's a lot safer that way because it's easier to uninstall again in future (and keep up-to-date through system updates)
[09:08] <Rory> generalster: Perhaps ##linux ?
[09:08] <enbergj> geirha: well after setting up openjdk-7-jdk, I tried to compile something and it complained that JAVA_HOME is not set .. after I manually fixed the environment it worked
[09:08] <generalster> Rory: Cheers. I'm pretty new to this sort of stuf.
[09:08] <muxdemux_> Rory: Yup, and i still don't feel pro enough to mess with those manual things :)
[09:09] <kongthap> i want to backup firefox's bookmarks, i cannot launch firefox now because my ubuntu is messed up, which files in .mozilla  contains the bookmarks???
[09:10] <enbergj> kongthap: you could consider checking firefox channel/forums/documentation instead of a random linux channel
[09:10] <geirha> enbergj: have you had different versions of java installed? if so, you might need to use  update-java-alternatives  to set the correct symlinks
[09:11] <Rory> kongthap: places.sqlite
[09:11] <enbergj> geirha: not as far as I know, I just installed javajdk-7-jdk, also if there were multiple versions, I assume one of them would've be set as the default without manually having to run update-java-alternatives etc.
[09:11] <enbergj> *openjdk
[09:11] <Beldar> kongthap, go to .mozilla open the firefox folder and use the search with bookmarkbackups
[09:12] <kongthap> beldar, i just found that folder
[09:12] <geirha> enbergj: Ok, well, I haven't had any problems with an unset JAVA_HOME
[09:12] <kongthap> Beldar: if i just copy those .json files, i can use firefox in the new machine to import them back right???
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> enbergj: tried Oracle Java? Webupd8 has a PPA for easy install
[09:13] <Beldar> kongthap, as far as I know yes.
[09:13] <kongthap> Beldar: thanks :)
[09:13] <Beldar> kongthap, save that whole .mozilla file just to be safe.
[09:13] <enbergj> ActionParsnip: no, nor do I want to really
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> enbergj: ok no worries
[09:14] <kongthap> Beldar: thanks for the warning :)
[09:14] <Beldar> kongthap, NOt sure why your firefox is broken, but that .mozilla file can just be put in home replacing another and run, if it's not it that is actually broken.
[09:16] <kongthap> Beldar: actually firefox is not broken, my ubuntu is broken i cannot launch both firefox and chrome, but i still can launch many apps such as x-chat, gedit, etc
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: launch them from terminal, the output may be useful
[09:17] <Beldar> kongthap, Ah just save the .mozilla and before you run firefox on the install paste it to home and you will have the same FF.
[09:18] <Beldar> kongthap, Save the .config file as well it will have the configs of apps.
[09:18] <Beldar> some apps anyway
[09:19] <kongthap> it seems like i got read only on my ubuntu, for cannot create a new folder, i think, that's why i cannot lunch some apps which require writable
[09:19] <Rory> kongthap: Is it possible you have run out of disk space?
[09:19] <kongthap> i've planned to  re-install my ubuntu
[09:19] <Rory> kongthap: Might as well just back up your entire /home/username directory then
[09:20] <generalster> kongtap: look if you've chmodded /
[09:20] <kongthap> Rory: nope, this used to happen before, i ran the fsck, then things have been fine, until i upgrade to 13.10
[09:20] <Rory> kongthap: I always advocate a clean install over an in-place upgrade if possible
[09:21] <kongthap> generalster: i just have one thing left to backup which is the bookmark so i'm lazy to run into fsck because i partition is quite big
[09:21] <kongthap> Rory: yeah, everyone has to buy their own experience :P
[09:22] <cfhowlett> Rory, agreed.
[09:22] <kongthap> i think, i just have to run fsck now, i have no other choices after backup everything i will do clean install for 12.04 LTS :)
[09:24] <kongthap> after upgrading to 13.10 i cannot use shutdown and restart from the panel menu, i always have to type the command in the terminal :P
[09:25] <kongthap> well, thanks all you guys with tons of help :)
[09:41] <olivier_bK> i have installed mysql on my ubuntu
[09:42] <olivier_bK> but when i try to start it i get that
[09:42] <olivier_bK> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[09:42] <olivier_bK> utility, e.g. service mysql start
[09:42] <Rory> olivier_bK: use the command "sudo service mysql start"
[09:42] <olivier_bK> i m in root
[09:42] <Rory> olivier_bK: then just "service mysql start"
[09:43] <olivier_bK> if use service mysql start
[09:43] <olivier_bK> i get nothing
[09:43] <Rory> olivier_bK: What's the output of "service mysql status" ?
[09:43] <olivier_bK> nothing
[09:44] <Rory> olivier_bK: How did you install mysql, and what Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:44] <gambi> I'm trying to setup my Wireless Touchpad on 13.04, which channel is the right one for questions related to "InputClass" settings?
[09:44] <olivier_bK> i 've installed mysql by apt-get install
[09:44] <Rory> gambi: Probably this one if you're on Ubuntu
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> gambi: does it have its own reciever, or is it bluetooth?
[09:44] <olivier_bK> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:44] <Rory> olivier_bK: Can you try "service mysql stop && sleep 2 && service mysql start"
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: use TAB to complete the service name
[09:45] <gambi> it's bluetooth and already connected but way too sensitive. I'd also like to have 3 finger-click-drag working.
[09:45] <johnm> olivier_bK: if you're after the server, is the package not called "mysql-server"?
[09:45] <Rory> gambi: Can you lower the sensitivity in the Input options ?
[09:46] <Rory> olivier_bK: yes if you just install" mysql" you will only get a client
[09:46] <gambi> @ActionParsnip which driver should I use in the X11 settings?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> gambi: not sure, usually the one loaded by udev is ok, check that out
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> gambi: lsmod   may show you
[09:46] <gambi> great thx
[09:46] <Rory> olivier_bK: apt-get install mysql-server
[09:47] <m00xdem00x> Why won't Chromium always start in full maximized screen? Every time i start it, i have to click the "+" button, so it will maximize. Any ideas?
[09:47] <sanji> hello
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Rory: if you close all Chromiums and run:  chromium-browser -start-maximized     is it ok?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Rory: if it works, run:   gksudo gedit /etc/chromium-browser/default    and add: CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--user-data-dir -start-maximized"
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Rory: source: http://www.canbike.ca/information-technology/2013/03/03/precise-puppy-5-4-3-chromium-browser-run-as-root-and-start-maximized.html
[09:52] <Nanor> Hi, why won't Ubuntu play through my USB headphones?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Nanor: its not configured right
[09:53] <Nanor> ActionParsnip, Found the problem
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Nanor: ahhh sweet
[09:54] <sandman> has anyone tried Elementary OS?
[09:54] <Nanor> sandman, no, looks interesting though
[09:54] <Nanor> Was thinking of putting it on my dad's laptop if it was any good. Haven't heard any reports though
[09:54] <sandman> currently downloading the iso let's see what it looks like?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> sandman: its not supported here
[09:55] <sandman> okay ActionParsnip
[09:56] <onenine7> kan er iemand helpen
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !english|onenine7,
[09:57] <onenine7> ok np anyone who can help with 13.10 wifi problem
[09:58] <Beldar> onenine7, Can you name the wifi hardware if internal look at lspci if external lsusb.
[10:02] <motz> hi, on which tablets is it possible to install ubuntu?
[10:03] <sec_> how use 7za? 7za a rom.zip "slimtmp/*" , it include slimtmp folder too, how avoid that?
[10:03] <Rory> motz: You want #ubuntu-touch not here
[10:04] <cfhowlett> !touch|motz,
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> sec_: does unp extract it how you desire?
[10:04] <sec_> ActionParsnip: no, my files are in slimtmp folder
[10:05] <sec_> ActionParsnip: slimtmp/files , i want it is /files
[10:08] <duoi> hi all, how can i wget from an ip address directly without resolving the domain?
[10:11] <Levex> duoi: wget <IP> maybe?
[10:12] <duoi> Levex, do I include the http portion?
[10:12] <Levex> duoi: Yes
[10:12] <duoi> great, thanks
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> sec_: may need to tell the extracter to only extract that folder then
[10:14] <damoo> hello, can someone help me with Tails please? im wanting to connect to a VPN before i connect to TOR.
[10:14] <sec_> ActionParsnip: i can't tell rom extracter
[10:14] <sec_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i will use cd
[10:15] <Rory> damoo: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[10:15] <cfhowlett> damoo, see tor or tails for support.
[10:16] <impradeepy> how can we link math library to standard C library?
[10:16] <impradeepy> am using gcc compiler
[10:19] <impradeepy> hello
[10:19] <impradeepy> ???
[10:29] <Bray90820> Is there a way to make the mouse pointer shoer then what the sitting will allow
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, restate in English
[10:30] <Bray90820> the lowest setting for the mouse point is still to fast
[10:30] <Bray90820> how can i make it shower
[10:30] <Bray90820> *slower
[10:32] <Beldar> Bray90820, Have you checked you mouse for a dpi switch?
[10:32] <Bray90820> you mean phisicly on the mouse?
[10:32] <Beldar> Bray90820, Yes.
[10:32] <Bray90820> there is no dpi switch it's a apple magic mouse
[10:35] <grahamsavage> hi, i need to add 200 vpn's too my vpn configurations
[10:35] <grahamsavage> is there a directory of configurations i can edit?
[10:35]  * cfhowlett resists urge to query what the heck he's running over there.
[10:36] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: you should have the same problems :)
[10:36] <grahamsavage> it's us vs GFOC
[10:37] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: which vpn provider are you using these days?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, technically VPN use is illegal in China so ...
[10:37] <Bray90820> coudl i do somethging like this to slow down the pointer
[10:37] <Bray90820> xinput --set-prop 10 "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.8
[10:37] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: no it's not
[10:37] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: there's no law against using vpns
[10:37] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, eh ... conflicting stories.    Tried to the use the VPN at the embassy, but that one IS throttled to single digit throughput.
[10:40] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: yes.. i don't give a crap about social media.. but pretty much the entire internet doesn't work
[10:40] <cfhowlett> :)  yeah.
[10:40] <grahamsavage> API websites, stackoverflow, github (for 2 weeks) + many many other work only related resources
[10:40] <Sh1G3rU> good news everyone vpns are not illegal in china
[10:40] <grahamsavage> Sh1G3rU: not going to help much.. most of them don't work
[10:40] <grahamsavage> and if they do only for a short period
[10:41] <Sh1G3rU> i stayed for a week in a hotel in beijing and as usual my laptop connects to the internet to my vpn and it worked fine
[10:42] <grahamsavage> good for you
[10:42] <Sh1G3rU> from my vpn*
[10:42] <Bray90820> How woudl i find the hid of a bluetooth mouse
[10:43] <grahamsavage> but.. i can assure you, if you lived here longterm... you'd find it hard to have any stable solution..  We currently have 3 different VPN providers and our own.. we run over ipsec / pptp / openvpn (and an astrill varient), we change port numbers and protocols from udp/tcp... it's impossible to get a long term stable connection
[10:43] <Beldar> Bray90820, along the lines similar to your command. http://patrickmylund.com/blog/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[10:44] <grahamsavage> additionally, they do turn it up and off.. for example around polictically sensitive times.. all the vpns stop working
[10:44] <Bray90820> Beldar: i already showed down the pointer
[10:44] <Bray90820> but now i need to incress the scroll wheel
[10:44] <Beldar> Bray90820, cool, good job.
[10:44] <Bray90820> or the equivlint of on my mouse
[10:45] <nineTHe> is it possable to add middle mouse click scrolling functionality?
[10:46] <navin> everytime i update ubuntu i see +1 ubuntu option in the boot menu
[10:46] <Beldar> nineTHe, I have it on my mouse.
[10:46] <navin> whats the propblem?
[10:47] <nineTHe> Beldar: are you using 13.10?
[10:47] <navin> no 12.04 LTS
[10:47] <faulter> Hey all
[10:47] <Beldar> nineTHe, What is your definition of "click scrolling functionality"
[10:48] <nineTHe> Beldar: when you click your middle mouse button and then can scroll up and down by moving your mouse, like in windows
[10:49] <Beldar> nineTHe, Hmm, it is working in all my ubuntu installs precise, 13.10 and 14.04
[10:49] <Sh1G3rU> nineTHe, you probably need to buy a new mouse because they have invented a mous with two buttons and a scrolling wheel in the midle
[10:49] <nineTHe> Sh1G3rU: lol
[10:49] <Sh1G3rU> :P
[10:50] <navin> is any body there who can listen me?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> navin, no, we can't listen.
[10:50] <Teleport> navin grub
[10:50] <faulter> navin: Hey
[10:50] <Beldar> navin, Have you modified grub?
[10:51] <navin> beldar : no i havent done anything like that
[10:51] <navin> i am new to ubuntu
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett found the net solution
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett bluetooth!
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Teleport, fixed?
[10:51] <Beldar> navin, Can we see what this looks like?
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett yeah ;))
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Teleport, good work!
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett tnx
[10:52] <navin> sorry, i observed it on boot menu
[10:52] <Teleport> navin try to config your grub
[10:52] <Beldar> navin, try sudo update-grub and see if it is there.
[10:53] <navin> thanx teleport but can u plz tell me how to do that?
[10:53] <Teleport> navin follow Beldar 's instruction
[10:54] <navin> its showing the list
[10:54] <Bray90820> is  /etc/modprobe.d/magicmouse.conf still around in 13.10
[10:54] <navin> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[10:54] <FloodBot1> navin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <navin> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[10:55] <Beldar> navin, is the +1 the multiple kernels?
[10:55] <navin> no +1 means whenever i update it the options increment
[10:55] <k1l_> navin: remove the old kernel packages, if you don want that much options at grub
[10:56] <vocx> Beldar, yes, he means he has one more row. It basically means the new kernel was installed, but the old kernel is still there. I guess people didn't get the question.
[10:56] <k1l_> navin: yes, that are new kernels
[10:56] <Beldar> navin, when ever you get a new kernel it is added to the boot menu.
[10:56] <liam> hola amigoes
[10:57] <navin> k1l ,ok as i told i dont know too much how to remove old kernel?
[10:57] <faulter> guys what do you use to connect to IRC?
[10:58] <Beldar> navin, find the ubuntu tweak ppa and install it and the janitor function will clean our kernels, bet to keep two sets is all.
[10:58] <wedr> faulter: irssi
[10:58] <wedr> best client ever
[10:58] <nineTHe> faulter: irssi
[10:58] <Beldar> s/your/best
[10:58] <k1l_> navin: see "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"  that will list all installed kernel packages.  after that you remove the "linux-image-....." packages from the old kernels. but keep at least one kernel on your system :)
[10:58] <faulter> ok me too, is not anything better?
[10:58] <navin> ok please tell me will it effct if i have windows too
[10:59] <k1l_> Beldar: i dont think ubuntu tweak is a good advice
[10:59] <k1l_> navin: no. that is just ubuntu kernels
[10:59] <maxvi> hi everyone! how can I change keyboard layouts in ubuntu 13.10?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> maxvi, of course.
[11:00] <k1l_> faulter: use xchat if you are on GUI and not kde
[11:00] <Beldar> k1l_, That is your opinion it is suggested here by other ops, for a new user unable to even understand why they are there it is failproof.
[11:00] <faulter> k1l_: I hate Graphical User Interface...
[11:00] <nineTHe> maxvi: have you tried system settings > text entry
[11:01] <Guest8621> HI guys, I just got ubuntu 13.10 and im trying to set some icons, ive downloaded them, installed them and went on to use the tweak tool to update them however they didnt change at all, am i doing something wrong or is there a way to do this manually
[11:01] <Beldar> anyway night all happy thanksgiving to those celebrating
[11:01] <maxvi> nineTHe: Super+Space but it doesn't work (
[11:03] <navin> k1l: i have list of all linux image in front of me now how to remove the kernel.
[11:03] <navin> and how would i know which should i remove
[11:03] <k1l_> navin: "sudo apt-get remove package" for package put the old linux-images there you see in that list
[11:04] <k1l_> navin: remove all old ones but keept least one.
[11:04] <navin> i dont know which one image is "the cuplrit"
[11:05] <Bray90820> Can someone explain to mw what Device Accel Velocity Scaling is
[11:05] <soman> how to diagnose why opera works slow after about 1-2min of work every time a run it? Xubuntu 12.04, Opera 12.16 1860, Linux i686, 3.2.0-56-generic. No updates were installed and only tineye plugin is enabled. 2 days ago all worked well.
[11:05] <vocx> navin, what do you mean by culprit? Is there a problem with one of them?
[11:06] <vocx> soman, open Opera from the command line and see the messages for a clue.
[11:06] <frog_> hello, I just wanna know if it is possible to run KDM (login screen) inside Xephyr session, and if it is possible anyone know how to do it?
[11:07] <navin> yes the problem is why too many options coming there to select ubuntu
[11:07] <navin> vocx
[11:07] <soman> vocx: thanks I will try now
[11:08] <vocx> navin, that in itself is not a problem.
[11:08] <k1l_> navin: just delete the old kernels
[11:08] <k1l_> navin: it is not a real problem
[11:09] <navin> vocx:no brother,actually i can see more than one options on my boot menu for choosing ubuntu...
[11:09] <k1l_> navin: that is not a problem. just choose the latest one
[11:10] <navin> K1l : then whats the problem? i m scared if it creates any big problem in my PC
[11:10] <vocx> navin, the Linux kernel is the backbone of Ubuntu. When there is a major upgrade, there is usually a new kernel added. The old kernel is left as a fallback in case the new kernel doesn't work. If you are sure the new kernel works, then you can safely uninstall or remove the old kernels. The old kernels will have smaller numbers than the most recent one.
[11:10] <k1l_> navin: i dont know why you are scared?
[11:11] <Guest8621> I just got ubuntu 13.10 and I'm trying to change the icons, I've downloaded the ones i want, i have also installed them and after that I went on to use the tweak tool to change them however they didn't change at all, am I doing something wrong or is there anyway to do this manually?
[11:11] <navin> ok let it be.. please tell me here ii  linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae       3.2.0-23.36                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[11:11] <navin> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-54-generic-pae       3.2.0-54.82                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
[11:11] <navin> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-56-generic-pae       3.2.0-56.86                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
[11:11] <navin> ii  linux-image-generic-pae                <IP_ADDRESS>.66                             Generic Linux kernel image
[11:11] <FloodBot1> navin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <navin> which one should i remove?
[11:12] <fault3r> ...
[11:13] <vocx> navin, in this case -23 and -54 are smaller than -56
[11:13] <navin> k1l : I am ubuntu is totally new for me
[11:13] <navin> means i have to remove 23 and 54
[11:13] <navin> ?
[11:14] <navin> am i correct vocx?
[11:14] <vocx> navin, you can do that.
[11:14] <urielvigilant> I did this question in Lubutu Channel. In Lubuntu 13.10 , i went to Session Definitons, then i put a signal on Aplet impression to manage files impression and in the energy manager, both open, but then when i Terminate computer and switch off after Switch on it don t open atStartUp. How to do that permanetly ?
[11:14] <k1l_> navin: keep "linux-image-generic-pae " and "linux-image-3.2.0-56-generic-pae "
[11:14] <navin> ok
[11:14] <k1l_> navin: but you not have to remove them. only if you dont need them or dont want them to show in the grub menue
[11:15] <navin> yes thats the thing i dont want them to be shown in grub if they will not create any kind of problem in future
[11:17] <vocx> navin, k1l_ I say removing the old kernel is fine in this case, because navin seems to not use them nor cause any other problem.
[11:17] <adv_am> hi
[11:17] <navin> ok m removin them now
[11:18] <fault3r> is anyone from Iran?
[11:18] <fault3r> is anyone from Iran?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> fault3r, this isn't a social channel.
[11:19] <fault3r> cfhowleet: no matter, i cant speak english. i want just an iranian...
[11:20] <nineTHe> i am trying to add a beeping noise when my nick is mentioned. Can someone type my name to test if this worked?
[11:21] <fault3r> cfhowlett: no matter, i cant speak english. i want just an iranian...
[11:21] <cfhowlett> fault3r, OK
[11:21] <cfhowlett> !farsi
[11:22] <fault3r> cfhowlett: np
[11:22] <fault3r> ubottu thanks a lot... then bye
[11:22] <navin> done with removing thanx K1l and vocx
[11:22] <navin> have a nice day
[11:22] <fault3r> cfhowlett: thanks
[11:23] <mrobinsonuk> Hi, has anyone had any success setting up 13.10 on encrypted lvm (I've been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto) - I can only get as far as update-initramfs but this step fails with warnings and errors, e.g. proc already mounted, /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 33: .: Can't open /conf/arch.conf
[11:26] <Bray90820> How would I set an applaction to run on startup in 13.10
[11:27] <Bray90820> nevermind
[11:27] <Bray90820> i just wasn't thinking
[11:27]  * Bray90820 needs to go to bed
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mrobinsonuk: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:30] <mrobinsonuk> ActionParsnip:
[11:30] <mrobinsonuk> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:32] <scrxw> whats the name of the program again, the one in which you can set the a window as a background on part of your desktop?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mrobinsonuk: are there any bugs reported?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mrobinsonuk: is this using the default Ubuntu ISO?
[11:35] <frog_>  hello, I just wanna know if it is possible to run KDM (login screen) inside Xephyr session, and if it is possible anyone know how to do it?
[11:35] <mrobinsonuk> ActionParsnip: From the live CD I have created an encrypted volume, setup lvm partitions on this, then installed Ubuntu 13.10 into those. After installation and rebooting I am left at a busybox prompt. Grub/init isn't aware of the encrypted volume so cant find / - I've search for reported bugs, IRC is a last resort - yes it is the default 13.10 cd - in the past I would have used an alternate cd
[11:36] <mrobinsonuk> ActionParsnip: Normally I would be confident that I would be able to fix this by chrooting into the installation and updating initramfs - but this doesnt work
[11:39] <scrxw> Conky!
[11:41] <mangrovejack> hi
[11:41] <gstaniak> hi
[11:41] <mangrovejack> who's good with canon printer drivers please?
[11:42] <mangrovejack> MG5460
[11:42] <mangrovejack> running ubuntu desktop 13.10
[11:45] <Rory> mangrovejack: Have you got the driver from Canon's site?
[11:45] <k1l_> mangrovejack: im not good with printers. but giving more details would help to help you
[11:46] <mangrovejack> i will ask canon tomorrow, it's canons problem
[11:46] <mangrovejack> thanks anyway
[11:46] <mangrovejack> have a good day or night
[11:46] <mangrovejack> bye
[11:47] <gstaniak> i need some dns help, or a referral to a better place to ask the question: i'm using 12.04 and i need to 'overshadow' or 'mask' dns quesries going outside to my default dns servers. let's say i'm on <IP_ADDRESS>, my dns servers that i gog through dhcp are <IP_ADDRESS> and .21, dnsmasq runs configured by network-manager using those external dns servers, and i get from them names for, say, domain.com (for which they're authoritative) -- i need a cnam
[11:47] <gstaniak> e for A.domain.com, like e.g. test.domain.com, visible only to my machine. can this be done using dnsmasq?
[11:47] <sebas_> Does anyone know how to solve the skin error of qmmp?
[11:48] <Rory> !details | sebas_
[11:48] <sebas_> Ubuntu 13.10 deafult qmmp start the program and get a weird looking skin
[11:49] <sebas_> I see the skin twice overlayed
[11:50] <sebas_> When I do a win+D the skin goes better but then the playlist bugs too
[11:52] <mtree> hey, im wondering why xfontsel dont see my truetype fonts. Any ideas?
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:01] <adamu> Hello
[12:02] <eunir> hey
[12:09] <sahil__> hello people
[12:09] <eunir> hey
[12:10] <sahil__> my plymouth is not working
[12:10] <Guest29038> Hola a todos.
[12:10] <Rory> !es
[12:10] <sahil__> not even the fallback mode
[12:18] <chillibite> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an hp 255  g1 - it has windows 8 installed and it has something i've never seen before, there's no bios options at boot, there are some options in the winows 8 settings to boot from a live cd or boot disk, though when i did i wasn't sure if i did do the install it would boot normally?
[12:19] <chillibite> also, once i booted the live cd from the windows 8 options to restart and boot from a cd, the wifi card wasn't working, yet i have read that this laptop sometimes comes with ubuntu pre-installed alongside windows 8?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> chillibite. doubt that there would be a dual boot available in a retail store
[12:23] <chillibite> BluesKaj: in Europe this laptop is shipped with two OS's installed, windows 8 and Ubuntu
[12:24] <chillibite> BluesKaj: I ordered it from France (I am in Zimbabwe) and for some reason mine came with only Windows 8 installed, which is a real let down - but anyway - since it ships with Ubuntu in other places- why doesn't the wifi card work?
[12:24] <chillibite> I need wifi - a lot of the time i cannot use an ethernet cable
[12:24] <fault3r> gi
[12:24] <fault3r> hi
[12:24] <BluesKaj> chillibite.  then the retailer must be installing ubuntu , probly against the rules wiih MS in NA
[12:25] <fault3r> is anybody help me?
[12:25] <k1l_> !details | fault3r
[12:25] <fault3r> how can i register in IRC?
[12:26] <Lareneg> chillibite: i purchased an usb stick with wifi. works perfect.
[12:26] <k1l_> !register | fault3r
[12:26] <k1l_> fault3r: if you have problems with that please ask in #freenode
[12:29] <kongthap> i'm installing ubuntu 13.04, after finished installing the files and reboot i'm stucking at "grub rescue" prompt what to do???
[12:29] <kongthap> the error is '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mode not found
[12:30] <faulter> ..
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:33] <kongthap> i used to use this usb installer before, but my ubuntu got messed up i just want to re-install again
[12:34] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, i found some answer on google it said to remount "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" is this command correct???
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: sure, why not. Doesn't hurt anything
[12:36] <fault3r> hi
[12:36] <koka> есть кто с москвы??
[12:37] <aliendough> a
[12:37] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" or "mount /dev/sda5 /" ????
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: what does sda5 represent in your OS
[12:39] <fault3r> how can i see persian characters in terminal or irssi?
[12:39] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, sda5 is the partition where ubuntu exists
[12:40] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, i got some other partitions for winxp and win7
[12:40] <phutchins> good morning
[12:40] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, so i should mount sda5 to /mnt or mount to / ??? i don't quite understand much about this
[12:41] <phutchins> Anyone experienced with running kvm vm's on 13.10? I'm having trouble after trouble and wondering if its worth it or if i should just jump back to 12.04 before I spend too much time on this...
[12:41] <fault3r> how can i see persian characters in terminal or irssi?
[12:43] <tasab_> hi every1
[12:45] <jony_easyrider> how can I reset the wallet in Krusader?
[12:45] <Guest22> anyone here
[12:45] <fault3r> how can i see UTF-8 in terminal or irssi?
[12:45] <fault3r> Guest22: hey
[12:46] <dry[2]> Could anyone explain me this, please (permissions): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190292
[12:46] <sahil__> hello ppl
[12:46] <sahil__> my plymouth is not working,not even the fallback text mode
[12:46] <sahil__> any help reguarding this?
[12:46] <Guest22> sahil__ need help
[12:47] <fault3r> Guest22: what is your problem?
[12:48] <Guest22> i will pm you
[12:48] <k1l_> !details | Guest22
[12:49] <altin_> do you guys know what could be the problem that it takes sooo long to login (loading for long time) on my laptop ?
[12:49] <altin_> I have a i7 with 8GB of RAM
[12:49] <altin_> could it be a compatibility issue or maybe a defect in my HDD ?
[12:50] <kongthap> i got same error as "http://askubuntu.com/questions/266429/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found" but i don't know about mounting... should i mount my sda5 to /mnt or mount to / ???
[12:52] <Kruppt> kongthap:sudo mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5  <-from term/console
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> sahil__: does the system show the login screen eventually?
[12:53] <sahil__> yes..
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> altin_: have you tested RAM using metest86 from grub?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> sahil__: then why care?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> altin_: you can run:  dmesg | less     you can look for large gaps in time on the left hand colomn
[12:54] <sahil__> everything is normal...execept the fact that i get old screen like redhat 5 or so...
[12:54] <kongthap> Kruppt, do i have to boot into the installer????
[12:55] <sahil__> i was playing with the packages in synaptic when this happened
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> sahil__: could reinstall the plymouth package, may help
[12:55] <sahil__> tried...not working
[12:56] <Kruppt> kongthap: are you booted into a live environment or a install on a flash...what?
[12:57] <altin_> ActionParsnip: how can I actually test with dmesg
[12:57] <kongthap> Kruppt, i use usb flash drive instead of cd
[12:58] <altin_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/h5WPC5Hx
[13:00] <Kruppt> kongthap:when booted into the OS you installed ubuntu from (usb flash or drive) run the command I posted earlier.
[13:02] <Kruppt> kongthap:before installing you should run "sudo fdisk -l" from terminal to be sure you know what block devices are which partitions before you hose something
[13:06] <osubuntu> What do the flood bots do?
[13:06] <LjL> flood
[13:06] <k1l_> osubuntu: they help manage the channel
[13:07] <osubuntu> why are them named flood
[13:07] <osubuntu> they control flood?
[13:07] <LjL> yes
[13:07] <k1l_> osubuntu: to prevent floods.
[13:07] <osubuntu> i wonder why there are 3
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> altin_: scroll down looking for large gaps in time on the left
[13:07] <Brandano> is there a way to ensure that the local dnsmasq instance will forward all dns requests to the dhcp assigned dns server? Using Ubuntu Server 12.4 LTS
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> osubuntu  in case of netsplit, there's always one available
[13:08] <osubuntu> Is 12.10 LTS btw?
[13:08] <osubuntu> Quantai
[13:08] <DJones> osubuntu: No
[13:08] <Brandano> AFAIK the last LTS is 12.04
[13:08] <DJones> !lts | osubuntu
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> osubuntu  no 12.04 is alt, 14.04 will be the next
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> lts*
[13:08] <osubuntu> alt!
[13:09] <osubuntu> good replacement
[13:09] <osubuntu> alt is a good replacement for lts? lol
[13:09] <osubuntu> (Was off-topic, sorry)
[13:09] <Brandano> only off by one letter
[13:10] <bcuraboy> hey guys.i got a question.hw to enable extra resolutions on a fullhd tv with ubuntu 13.04 and a Nvidia G105M graphic card? what i want is extra reslutions besides the 1920x1080 and 1280x1024 and under..cause between these two there's no more choices.. :(
[13:10] <Brandano> should come pretty close if you use levenstein distance
[13:10] <Brandano> bcuraboy: the card should read the available resolution from the monitor, in this case the TV, via the hdmi cable
[13:11] <altin_> ActionParsnip: these are the last ones http://pastebin.com/evKwjSs2
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> altin_: it's not about the last ones
[13:12] <g0d> ActionParsnip: I have a question...if you have enough manly-balls to answer this specific and clearfully-structured question of mine; How did you, get this such superior Linux knowledge?
[13:12] <bcuraboy> yes,but i've been dealing with some hd tv's for a while and my on my own tv i don't get the resolution like 1366x760 ...
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> altin_: you need to READ the alues on the left, if you se a large gap in the number, that is where your slowness is
[13:12] <g0d> everybody stay quiet.
[13:12] <g0d> let ActionParsnip answer.
[13:12] <LjL> g0d: please.
[13:12] <g0d> altin_: let him speak, goddamnit.
[13:12] <g0d> sorry LjL.
[13:12] <fault3r> how can i close a private chat in irssi?