[04:01] <dmsuperman> histo: Alsa is selected, and the "test" button for all of them makes a beeping noise
[04:01] <rjr162> yeah
[04:02] <histo> dmsuperman: good thats what its supposed to do then.
[04:02] <rjr162> i read somewhere it doesn't work with the new version of xorg and you'd have to downgrade?
[04:02] <dmsuperman> histo: But if you go to gnome-sound-properties -> sounds tab and hit "play" next to one of the system sounds
[04:02] <cjmaster> !hi | cjmaster
[04:02] <dmsuperman> histo: Then it's supposed to play a sound. Like the login sound.
[04:02] <dmsuperman> histo: Mine doesn't, nor does it when I log in.
[04:02] <bunnyto> rjr162: wrong.. i have the last xorg and the last ATI drivers
[04:03] <martin_> izinucs: yes and tred alot of things, and now i cant even get anything if i enable nvidia driver
[04:03] <rjr162> bunnyto: dang i'm not sure what to do with the --iscurrentdistro
[04:03] <izinucs> martin_, did you install nvidia-settings?
[04:04] <cjmaster> msgbot
[04:04] <martin_> izinucs: yes and when that didnt work i instaled envyng-qt
[04:04] <izinucs> martin_, what nvidia card do you have?
[04:05] <cjmaster> !botsnack
[04:05] <McAfee> can use help me?
[04:05] <kelledin> quick question, should hardy heron have DPMS settings somewhere in KDE control center?
[04:05] <DCPom> !ask | McAfee
[04:05] <Shity_T1> can't pin it down, whenever I google the problem I get hangs on boot, I'm already booted and logged in, then I randomly get *starting anacd(h)ronistic cron anacron
[04:05] <Shity_T1> *starting deferred execution scheduler atd
[04:05] <Shity_T1> *starting periodic command scheduler crond
[04:05] <Shity_T1> *checking battery state..
[04:05] <Shity_T1> *running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[04:05] <FloodBot3> Shity_T1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <martin_> i'm using kubuntu, and tryed everything that guys there could think about and nothing worked so i thought that maybe you guysmight know other stuff
[04:06] <martin_> izinucs: 8800 GTS
[04:06] <kelledin> for some reason, I'm not seeing anything for display power control
[04:06] <McAfee> my ubuntu boot was fried because i had a memory stick go bad, it fried my boot, fsck won't fix it. it tells me it has multiple illegal somethings and i tell it yes then it says inode something 1600 should be 0 <fix>y?
[04:06] <McAfee> i hit y, and it freezes
[04:07] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 it seems like you are going back to the first terminal session. Have you tried alt-f7 to get back to your x session?
[04:07] <izinucs> martin_, there is a new nvidia driver released that I read fixed a lot of issues with the 8800 and up.. it's on the nvidia site.  To install follow the instructions but if it's not mentioned you have to be in a different tty and have gdm stopped.
[04:07] <cjmaster> !anybody | cjmaster
[04:08] <harriseldon> McAfee have you tried fsck from a live cd?
[04:08] <Shity_T1> harriseldon: yes, well I have tried ctrl-f7, it is on that session I think
[04:08] <Shity_T1> harriseldon: or is alt-f7 different?
[04:08] <McAfee> harriseldon,  no, i'm downloading an ISO right now so i could try that
[04:08] <martin_> izinucs: sorry, tty?; gdm? im new to linux
[04:08] <FAJ> Shity_T1:  ctrl alt f7
[04:09] <Shity_T1> FAJ, a sry, that is what I did
[04:09] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 when you are in a current x session, you must use ctrl+alt+F1 for example to goto terminal 1. Once you are in a terminal, you only need to use alt-f7
[04:09] <FAJ> Shity_T1:  ok
[04:09] <bunnyto> how to see the process % ?
[04:09] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 try alt-F1 to goto the first termina
[04:09] <histo> God flash blows
[04:09] <histo> in linux
[04:10] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 then login as your user and check the logs like dmesg or xorg.0.log
[04:10] <kelledin> histo: flashblock is your friend ;-)
[04:10] <hosstest> :P
[04:10] <FAJ> bunnyto:   open up termina>top
[04:10] <bobertdos> histo: You've already tried 10, right?
[04:10] <Shity_T1> harriseldon, yes I've tried that, logged in on the first terminal tried to startx, then that time it just froze on black
[04:10] <FAJ> or alt+f2 gnome-system-manager
[04:10] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 you can also try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to restart X
[04:10] <cjmaster> !exit
[04:10] <izinucs> martin_, k.. a tty is like terminal but a seperate screen.. the gui is located on tty7 .. to get to another tty use ctrl+alt+f2 and login.. it's text based.  GDM is graphics display manager.. to stop it once in a different tty type /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:11] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 look at the comment izinucs. It accurately describes the use of terminals with x.
[04:12] <Shity_T1> harriseldon, ah ok, if it happens again how would I go about checking the logs you mentioned?
[04:12] <kuthux> will there only one GUI (tty7 only), or can we start x on another tty ?
[04:12] <gecko_> Other then my Nvidia controls what other programs are on Ubuntu to fix a screen reselution problem?? got myself in it, maybe i can get myself out :)
[04:12] <kuthux> :D
[04:12] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 use alt-f1 to goto the first terminal. Login and then type the command dmesg
[04:13] <izinucs> kuthux, there are ways of starting a gui on a different tty but I don't know how.
[04:13] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 this will check the main system log
[04:13] <kuthux> hmm..
[04:13] <harriseldon> Shity_T1 to check the xorg log you can use tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log (tail shows the last 10 lines of a file)
[04:13] <jfsc> i installed the server kernel, but when I do the system update its trying to install all the packages dealing with the generic kernel
[04:14] <Shity_T1> harriseldon, thank you I'll try to figure it out from there :)
[04:14] <go_beep_yourself> hello, i am using the default ubuntu config file for configuring the kernel and i see that alsa is not checked off. why wouldnt it be checked off with the default ubuntu config?
[04:14] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: Doesn't work. I add this into my xorg.conf Option		"SHMConfig"		"Enable"
[04:16] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, why when I execute something with sudo I receive this error? sudo: unable to resolve host gaf-laptop
[04:16] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd where did you add it?
[04:16] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd did you log out and log back in?
[04:16] <izinucs> gonzaloaf_laptop, I have the same issue but just continue and it  will work
[04:16] <Narfi> I need to translate a english work to french, but its a PDF. Is there another prog than PDFEdit ?
[04:16] <kuthux> gonzaloaf_laptop: open /etc/hosts
[04:16] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon:or should it be Option		"SHMConfig"		"on"?
[04:16] <hosstest> whats a good app for compressing .ogg files into avi?
[04:17] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd you are correct
[04:17] <izinucs> Narfi, search synaptic for pdf and you'll find one that will convert pdf to ps .. that should be more "manipulatable" if that's a word.
[04:17] <mrpockets> whats the command to delete a direcroty if its fulla shit?
[04:17] <gecko_> my screen reselution is screwed, wont let me put it back to norm, stuck on 640.. can i go through terminal to fix, and how??
[04:18] <Narfi> izinucs:: Thank you.
[04:18] <hosstest> mrpockets:  rm -r
[04:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a way to install a deb package by hand and avoid conflics with  apt-get?
[04:18] <dmsuperman> !ohmy | mrpockets
[04:18] <izinucs> Azhi_Dahaka, conflicts?  have  you double clicked the .deb to install and received errors due to dependancies?
[04:19] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: It doesn't work neither Enable nor On
[04:19] <dmsuperman> gecko_: You can, you might want to check !nvidia or !ati, depending
[04:19] <mrpockets> ...sry
[04:19] <dmsuperman> gecko_: Also" sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" might be of assistance
[04:19] <jfsc> i installed the server kernel, but when I do the system update its trying to install all the packages dealing with the generic kernel
[04:19] <jfsc> how do I fix this?
[04:19] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd I have it enabled for me and it works. Did you logout? changes to xorg.conf do not take effect until you logout. Plus it needs to be in the correct section.
[04:20] <izinucs> jfsc, if you're using the server kernel you might need the other files associated with it.
[04:20] <garrett> Hello ubuntu people
[04:20] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: Should I reboot? Or just ctrl+alt+backspace is enough?
[04:20] <gonzaloaf_laptop> I want to enable the 'Debian' or 'Education' menus but the changes doesnt make effect, why?
[04:20] <bobertdos> !hello | garrett
[04:20] <garrett> I was hoping someone could help me with a video problem
[04:20] <ubuntu_todd> garrett: what's that?
[04:21] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd ctrl-alt-backspace is enough. Try to avoid that because it abruptly closes x. Use the logout instead if you can.
[04:21] <bjb1959> anyone know how to get sound working with a pinnacle pctv hd 800i in hardy?
[04:21] <steezer> i can't open firefox after the update, it shows "Error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser"  what do i do?
[04:21] <garrett> im new to ubuntu- but have made the switch for good- so im smoothing out the edges
[04:21] <central> please i have ubuntu studio and got a problem with language spelling
[04:21] <garrett> my problem is editing VRO (sony cam) files-- how can i do this?
[04:22] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: how to logout?
[04:22] <garrett> steezer: have you tried complete remobal and then install again
[04:22] <steezer> garrett: how do i do that?
[04:22] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: should I close all the windows and applications?
[04:22] <harriseldon> ubunto_todd System-Quit LogOut
[04:23] <garrett> open snaptic and search for firefox -- first save your bookmarks -
[04:23] <ChunkStyle> i can upgrade to 8.10 right?
[04:23] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd you probably made the change in the wrong section of the xorg.conf
[04:23] <five> whats the best free software i can use to write .m files with? they need to be able to load in matlab on a windows pc
[04:23] <izinucs> ChunkStyle, could but it's still beta.. don't until it's officially released.
[04:24] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd it should be in the section labeled Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
[04:24] <ChunkStyle> ok
[04:24] <ChunkStyle> thanks izinucs
[04:24] <gecko_> dmsuperman: tried the terminal thing, pretty useless for me, didn't really understand it.. so joinning nvidia and the ati channel..
[04:24] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, when I install applications the menu entries are not created, why?
[04:24] <garrett> steezer: after you save your bookmarks go into snaptic and click on firefox and select complete removal
[04:24] <izinucs> ChunkStyle, np
[04:24] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57262/
[04:24] <garrett> ubuntu_todd: could you think of a way to edit these VRo files or mabey convert to mpg
[04:24] <theworm> Hello
[04:25] <theworm> Could any one help me please
[04:25] <garrett> whats up worm
[04:25] <theworm> Hey garret,
[04:25] <garrett> hello
[04:25] <garrett> im kinda new but might be able to help
[04:25] <bobertdos> gonzaloaf_laptop: Have you checked to see if the sections you want are enabled in System->Preferences->Main Menu?
[04:25] <ubuntu_todd> garrett: I use ffmpeg to do convert video formats
[04:25] <theworm> I am running Ubuntu 8.10 and would like turf anonymously
[04:25] <izinucs> gonzaloaf_laptop, sometimes that happens and they show up on next boot. the other way is to right mouse click on Applications and "edit"  you'll probably find them entered and checked but to fix just uncheck the box and recheck.. it'll show up
[04:25] <harriseldon> ubuntu_todd that is exactly what I have in my xorg.conf and it works
[04:26] <garrett> ubuntu_todd: worm just boot from the disk-- that way its a live user and complete anonymous
[04:26] <central> please do anyone can help me with world spelling for openoffice under ubuntu studio ?
[04:26] <kuthux> !seen amrik
[04:26] <garrett> ubuntu_todd: thanks todd-
[04:26] <ubuntu_todd>  garrett: No idea
[04:27] <garrett> worm just boot from the disk-- that way its a live user and complete anonymous
[04:27] <wickers> join #ubuntu-server
[04:27] <wickers> lol
[04:27] <wickers> no slash
[04:27] <garrett> ubuntu_todd: sorry meant to type to worm
[04:27] <harriseldon> central what do you mean world spelling? Do you want to use a dictionary for a different language?
[04:27] <theworm> Garret I have already installed it.. I mean don't we have a workaround by which we can hide IP Adrress
[04:28] <theworm> I try to use Tor Privoxy
[04:28] <garrett> oh have you tried peer gaurdian through wine
[04:28] <theworm> Nope
[04:28] <garrett> check it out- thats what i used in winxp im sure i heard it works under wine
[04:28] <steezer> garrett: how do i reinstall firefox after i remove it?
[04:29] <ubuntu_todd> It works after I log out.
[04:29] <harriseldon> central try using Tools->Language then specify for selection, paragraph, document, etc.
[04:29] <theworm> k will try and let you know
[04:29] <central> well i install openoffice suite 2.4 and all the language i need but openoffice can not find any dictionary
[04:29] <harriseldon> central once the language is changed, the dictionary will be changed to match
[04:29] <gecko_> dmsuperman: no one seems to be responding on those channels, do you have any idea how i can fix my reselution issue?
[04:29] <ubuntu_todd> harriseldon: you mean logout is better than ctrl+alt+backspace?
[04:29] <unlink> how do i view a font file?
[04:30] <unlink> like a ttf
[04:30] <central> i did what you say but no result
[04:30] <ethan3> unlink just double click
[04:30] <steezer> i can't open firefox after the update, it shows "Error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser"  again after i just reinstalled it, what do i do?
[04:30] <central> it work with ubuntu but not with ubuntu studio
[04:30] <unlink> ethan3: There is no application installed for this file type
[04:31] <harriseldon> central look in synaptic for the other openoffice.org-I10n for the desired language
[04:31] <ethan3> do you install acdsee or other software
[04:31] <legend2440> unlink: gnome-specimen is a font viewer. its pretty good
[04:32] <unlink> yeah, but that doesn't view arbitrary font files on my filesystem
[04:32] <unlink> which is what i'm looking to do
[04:33] <Chaotic_Descent> Why can't I use this SDcard in my USB adapter? it worked before, and it worked at my mom's house where I installed Ubuntu. why am I getting "unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library." ? Why is my computer working differently than my mom's?
[04:34] <ethan3> normally winvista has the tool to open the ttf file by its own
[04:34] <chicotripa> hey
[04:34] <central> well the package you say are installed
[04:35] <unlink> i'm not using vista though, i'm using ubuntu
[04:35] <ethan3> isee £¬sorry for lunch
[04:35] <Stupendoussteve> unlink, how dare you not use windows in a linux channel
[04:35] <izinucs> unlink, http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=font+viewer+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search
[04:35] <Chaotic_Descent> Also, anyone know how to hide hidden files in the shared app that's used to upload/download/save/load files in all other apps?
[04:36] <unlink> yes, i've been googling
[04:36] <theworm> Hey Garret... I got that sorted out... TorK worked for me thanks for your Help
[04:36] <unlink> oh whoops, this may be an artifact of which version i'm using
[04:36] <theworm> Cheers, The Worm
[04:37] <erwin_> i have a very similar problem as this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188060.html i've managed to apply their solution but still couldnt get my network up
[04:37] <central> openoffice work well with ubuntu desktop but not with ubuntu studio
[04:37] <Kattollikisd> Can someone help me, I erased My USB Drive from my desktop, everytime that I connect the USB drive in the PC, I don't see it in the desktop, who do I put it back?
[04:37] <kuthux> central: how could?
[04:38] <central> i dont know
[04:38] <Chaotic_Descent> anyone know what that app is called that's loaded every time you try to upload/download/save/load files?
[04:38] <kuthux> ubuntu studio is just additional packages to original ubuntu
[04:38] <central> yes but office is not installed like fur ubuntu desktop
[04:38] <harriseldon> Kattollikisd what did you do to erase it? Have you check the system logs? System->Administration->System Logs
[04:38] <histo> Chaotic_Descent: you mena the file browser? like nautilus?
[04:39] <histo> browns win
[04:39] <kuthux> central: so themn u install it manually ?
[04:39] <central> yes
[04:39] <Chaotic_Descent> histo: no, not nautilus. nautilus doesn't upload or download or save or load files within applications.
[04:39] <bobertdos> Kattollikisd: and are you sure you actually "deleted" it? It sounds like it just might not be  mounting.
[04:39] <kuthux> central: u install it from repository?
[04:39] <histo> Chaotic_Descent: yeah but its called to specify a location when you hit browse
[04:39] <kuthux> central: what errors do u have ?
[04:39] <central> i installed it with add/remove
[04:40] <kuthux> central u mean synaptic ?
[04:40] <central> well office can not find the language dictionary but it is installed
[04:40] <central> i did it with sympatic install
[04:40] <central> yes
[04:40] <kuthux> central: it's synaptic not sympatic lol
[04:41] <central> nop ...lol
[04:41] <Chaotic_Descent> histo: well Nautilus is set not to display hidden files right now, so why are they displayed whenever I download/upload/save/load files from other applications like FireFox or gedit?
[04:41] <histo> Chaotic_Descent: hit ctrl + h in that dialog
[04:41] <kuthux> central: maybe it's about dependencies
[04:41] <histo> Chaotic_Descent: when the download window is displayed hit ctrl+h will toggle them being displayed.
[04:41] <central> i think so yes
[04:42] <Kattollikisd> bobertdos, the USB Drive is now Mount, the Nautilus detect it, I can send and delete file right now, but I don't see it in the desktop, I erased it like this ( Shift - Delete ) can u help me ? :(
[04:42] <kuthux> then try to find out, $sudo apt-get -f install
[04:42] <izinucs> Chaotic_Descent, then they're not hidden anymore.. check with the terminal... to be hidden the file should have a "." in front of the name.
[04:42] <Chaotic_Descent> histo: thanks. how did that accidentally get turned on, then off, then on again? I don't ever remember knowing about that.
[04:42] <akio> test
[04:43] <chapex> quit
[04:43] <chapex> :D
[04:43] <akio> test
[04:43] <chapex> exit
[04:44] <kuthux> chapex: use slash
[04:44] <bobertdos> Kattollikisd: Do you have it mounted manually right now?
[04:44] <izinucs> akio, yep.. you're really in here with 1300 other people.
[04:44] <central> well i will reinstall ubuntu studio then try to find out what the problem i may come back later thx...
[04:44] <akio> im testing snort izinucs
[04:44] <akio> i can read this conversation in the log
[04:44] <izinucs> akio, k..
[04:44] <Chaotic_Descent> did I somehow lose the rights to mount this NTFS drive because I locked my screen and logged back in again? I can't figure out why I can do this at my mom's house and not here. I don't mess around with account settings.
[04:45] <akio> first time using it
[04:45] <kuthux> Kattollikisd: i added disk mounter on my panel. however, it helps ( like safely remove storage on w****s)
[04:45] <Kattollikisd> harriseldon, what I have to do in the system Logs to put back my USB Drive Icon to my desktop?
[04:45] <akio> izinucs: do you know how to use snort?
[04:45] <izinucs> akio, nope
[04:45] <harriseldon> Kattollikisd depends on the error
[04:45] <kuthux> !google
[04:45] <Kattollikisd> bobertdos, yes I have it mounted right now
[04:46] <Kattollikisd> kuthux, I didn't understand you :(
[04:46] <kuthux> Kattollikisd: why would u have icons of mounted partition on desktop?
[04:47] <mrpockets> k
[04:47] <mrpockets> heres one
[04:47] <mrpockets>  in terminal
[04:47] <mrpockets> instead of CD /directory/here
[04:47] <mrpockets> is there a command to open the directory listing in a window?
[04:48] <Kattollikisd> kuthux, what?
[04:48] <beautifulsnow> Mmmm I'm running compiz + emerald , but I'd like to have the metacity window frame... when i do metacity --replace, compiz goes away too... how can i get compiz+metacity ?
[04:48] <bobertdos> Kattollikisd: You could add an entry in fstab with noauto. That would kind of give you the same effect.
[04:48] <wickers> mrpockets, you mean like #ls -l /path/to/directory
[04:48] <wickers> ?
[04:49] <harriseldon> mrpockets try gnome-open
[04:49] <harriseldon> mrpockets it will open the default gnome app for any file or directory
[04:49] <kuthux> maybe mrpockets wants GUI
[04:50] <the_dude> how do i close an application by the terminal, like close firefox right now?
[04:50] <harriseldon> mrpockets ie gnome-open /directory/here
[04:50] <Kattollikisd> bobertdos, I don't know much about this system, can you tell me more about "fstab"or noauto"?
[04:50] <chaddy> the_dude: killall firefox
[04:50] <wickers> the_dude, #killall -9 firefox
[04:50] <wickers> the_dude, or firefox-bin
[04:50] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, im using gyache improved 1.1.0 on hady heron, when i turn on my webcam i got an error msg. it say "an error occurred at 'ioctl VIDIOCSPICT' Could not set camera properties'
[04:50] <the_dude> chaddy, thx
[04:51] <the_dude> and kill is what for?
[04:51] <chaddy> the_dude: that doesn't make sense
[04:51] <harriseldon> the_dude try man kill
[04:51] <wickers> man killall
[04:52] <the_dude> ive already finished, i just wanna know, and kill is for wat?
[04:52] <bpat1434> I have an eSATA drive I want to automount, what should the fstab file look like?  Or is there an easier way to do it than manually editing fstab?
[04:52] <wickers> the_dude, kill is to end a process
[04:52] <wickers> firefox is the process name
[04:52] <wickers> killall lets you name the process and kill all named
[04:52] <the_dude> wickers, ok thx.
[04:52] <the_dude> thx guys, bye see ya!
[04:53] <wickers> where as just "kill" is used to kill a process by it's process ID, which is a number
[04:53] <wickers> and more exact than just any process by name
[04:53] <mrazv> Hi guys I'm new to UBUNTU just wanted to say hello here
[04:53] <kuthux> !hello | mrazv
[04:53] <bobertdos> Kattollikisd: Well first, you'd need to know the device path for your usb drive. In the terminal, type sudo fdisk -l. Find the line that has vfat in it, and take note of what is says for /dev/....
[04:53] <mrazv> thank you
[04:53] <mrazv> hello kuthux
[04:54] <kuthux> !ask
[04:55] <izinucs>
[04:55] <Nazarah> can someone help me...im tryin to start up on my labtop and it stays at starting bluetooth services...
[04:57] <mrpockets> thanks
[04:57] <beautifulsnow> Mmmm I'm running compiz + emerald , but I'd like to have the metacity window frame... when i do metacity --replace, compiz goes away too... how can i get compiz+metacity ?
[04:57] <[NoN]crazymodder> irc.gtanet.com
[04:57] <snarkster> anyone have one of these video cards? 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[04:57] <[NoN]crazymodder> irc://irc.gtanet.com
[04:57] <histo> beautifulsnow: type in compiz --replace now
[04:57] <chaddy> Nazarah: recovery console, update-rc.d bluetooth remove, will stop bluetooth loading
[04:58] <chaddy> Nazarah: not a perfect solution, but it should let you get into a session to poke at it
[04:58] <Nazarah> ok ty
[04:58] <chaddy> yw
[04:58] <beautifulsnow> histo,  . mmmm.... that gave me the same window decoration i had with emerald
[04:58] <Flannel> [NoN]crazymodder: Can we help you?
[04:58] <beautifulsnow> he's a spammer
[04:59] <histo> beautifulsnow: did you tie emerald in with ccsm?
[04:59] <[NoN]crazymodder> sorry, i was joining the other irc
[04:59] <beautifulsnow> histo,  I might have, though I honestly don't know how I would go about it if i wanted to do it now :P
[04:59] <Flannel> [NoN]crazymodder: No problem
[04:59] <beautifulsnow> I apologize then :P
[05:00] <[NoN]crazymodder> u may just call me crazymodder.
[05:00] <beautifulsnow> If i remember correctly, metacity window manager works with compiz, doesn't it?
[05:00] <histo> beautifulsnow: check under system > preferences > advanced desktop settings
[05:00] <histo> beautifulsnow: under the window decoration settings. What is the Command option set to?
[05:01] <beautifulsnow> /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[05:01] <[NoN]crazymodder> anyone knows a nvidia 6200 driver for linux?
[05:02] <tritium> !nvidia | [NoN]crazymodder
[05:02] <[NoN]crazymodder> im newbie to linux
[05:02] <Guest17700> Whenever I access Hotmail I get a message saying that I need to upgrade my browser .... I am sure I have a latest firefox. Is there something I can do for it to stop asking me to upgrade?
[05:02] <[NoN]crazymodder> thx ubottu
[05:02] <histo> beautifulsnow: hrm.. should work then.
[05:02] <izinucs> [NoN]crazymodder, built in.. enable the restricted drivers.. system/admin/hardware drivers.
[05:02] <chaddy> Guest17700: microsoft play these games
[05:02] <histo> beautifulsnow: I don't know why emerald is starting by default thne.
[05:02] <chaddy> they don't like to admit linux exists
[05:02] <bunnyto> Guest17700: nobody uses Hotmail... get Gmail
[05:02] <legend2440> in a few weeks when i do a clean install of intrepid. if i do dpkg --get-selections >myselections to get a list of all installed packages. how do i use this list to install the same packages in intrepid? so i dont have to install them all individually
[05:03] <tritium> [NoN]crazymodder: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[05:03] <beautifulsnow> Oh snap, histo, i just disabled Window Decorator, then re-enabled it, and it gave me my metacity wm theme :D
[05:03] <beautifulsnow> Yippie ;p
[05:04] <bunnyto> metacity? is it dark
[05:04] <[NoN]crazymodder> who plays manhunt?
[05:04]  * beautifulsnow restarts
[05:04] <beautifulsnow> thank you btw :D
[05:05] <kuthux> anybody experience the nautilus bug, when set show_desktop to true or false via gconf-editor ?
[05:05] <fsanlu> does anyone know, how to turn on the rear speakers? i have a santa cruz turtle beach soundcard.. and only my front speakers are playing :\
[05:05] <beautifulsnow> kuthux,  What bug do you speak of?
[05:06] <hitman1985> hi @ all, how can i unpack rar files in 8.04 hardy ? free unrar wont work :( ? thx for the help
[05:06] <fserve> unrar x file.rar
[05:06] <kuthux> beautifulsnow: when i set show_desktop to false it works, but when i revert to true, it doesn't work
[05:06] <Arcticfox>  type into terminal to find out my hardware info
[05:06] <Arcticfox> *what do i
[05:06] <hitman1985> fserve: is there a way since i do this a lot more hten just once, to get this in my right click menu ?
[05:07] <bunnyto> Charles Bronson rulez!
[05:07] <kuthux> beautifulsnow: it will only works if at least one nautilus window opened during the action
[05:07] <fserve> hitman1985, dont know
[05:07] <hitman1985> i had wine last time and ran winrar that way, but its just tooo much of a hassle :(
[05:07] <kuthux> beautifulsnow: so then i have to open nautilus first before doing things on gconf-editor
[05:07] <hitman1985> fserve: any good archive handler what will do all archives there are ;-) ?
[05:08] <Arcticfox> does anyone know what i needa type into terminal to get my hardware information ?
[05:08] <kuthux> any suggestion ?
[05:08] <Chaotic_Descent> how the hell do I figure out what has stopped allowing me to automatically mount this SDcard in a USB adapter? I went to the URL the error window directed me to. I ran all the commands. apparently it still hasn't fixed the problem.
[05:08] <beautifulsnow> kuthux, oh. I havent seen that. but when you do save your changes, and you close naultilus, the changes youve made stick, riht?
[05:08] <fserve> hmm, dont knwo
[05:08] <Chaotic_Descent> also, why can't I copy the text in the error window like I can in Windows?
[05:08] <fserve> i just use console one, sorry
[05:08] <Arcticfox> anyone at all?
[05:09] <hitman1985> fserve: :( thanks vm anyways :)
[05:09] <holyguyver> How do you tell apt to install all of the debs in a folder?
[05:09] <kuthux> beautifulsnow: the changes aplly only if i open nautilus during the process
[05:10] <decomp> what does the error mean: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXv ? is that a flag or is it actually looking for something?
[05:10] <Chaotic_Descent> Mount is denied because setuid and setgid root ntfs-3g is insecure with the external FUSE library. Either remove the setuid/setgid bit from the binary or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root.
[05:10] <amrik> holyguyver: find . -exec "sudo dpkg -i \{};"
[05:10] <amrik> holyguyver: find . -name "*.deb" -exec "sudo dpkg -i \{};"
[05:10] <Chaotic_Descent> huh... I think I actually made it worse somehow... so... how do I rebuild NTFS etc? (and how the hell did I mess this up to begin with??)
[05:11] <Flannel> holyguyver: assuming there aren't too many of them, `dpkg -i *.deb` will work too
[05:11] <Chaotic_Descent> Why does Ubuntu just randomly change things like displaying hidden files and auto-mounting external storage media?
[05:11] <ezzieyguywuf> i got an external hard drive with two partitions. when it automounts, the partitions mount at /media/disk and /media/disk-1 but they sometimes switch as to which one mounts where. how can i control this?
[05:13] <bruenig> amrik: you don't have to escape the {, just so you know
[05:13] <tritium> Chaotic_Descent: it doesn't.
[05:13] <holyguyver> Flannel, okay I did that & it worked, do I have to do anything now?
[05:14] <Flannel> holyguyver: Now they're installed... so... whatever you were going to do after you installed them
[05:14] <kr00l> Anyone play EVE ONLINE?
[05:14] <holyguyver> Flannel, thank you :D
[05:15] <dink> hey
[05:15] <amrik> bruenig: sorry i just typed the first thing that came to mind
[05:15] <dink> were do i put the blocklist for transmission
[05:15] <Chaotic_Descent> tritium: well it's certainly not because I changed anything that makes sense as having this effect. something got messed up just from normal operation.
[05:16] <bobertdos> When using separate home partitions, are there ever any problems with old settings from previous versions of the OS conflicting with new ones?
[05:16] <holyguyver> Flannel, but if they are installed then how come it still says 2.4 when it is supposed to say 3.0?
[05:16] <dink> anybody help
[05:16] <Flannel> bobertdos: No, because your old home directory isn't /home anymore.
[05:16] <paul68> !anybody |dink
[05:17] <New`Bie> hi
[05:17] <ezzieyguywuf> i got an external hard drive with two partitions. when it automounts, the partitions mount at /media/disk and /media/disk-1 but they sometimes switch as to which one mounts where. how can i control this?
[05:17] <dink> i was just curious where i put the blocklist for transmission
[05:17] <New`Bie> any one here can help me with ubuntu?
[05:18] <holyguyver> Flannel, It seems that it did not install.
[05:18] <kuthux> !ask | New`Bie
[05:18] <bobertdos> Flannel: Does the partitioner create a copy or something to that effect?
[05:18] <Flannel> bobertdos: Which guide did you follow?
[05:18] <powertool08> my window isn't refreshing... anytime somebody says something the previous text moves up however many lines but I can't see what was said. What causes this?
[05:18] <Flannel> holyguyver: did you sudo that? get errors? etc?
[05:19] <Srle> hi guys
[05:19] <bobertdos> Flannel: Well, this is just a general question. I'm just planning ahead.
[05:19] <New`Bie> Just installed ubuntu in my computer. But booting is very slow can any one tell me what can be the issue ?
[05:19] <Flannel> bobertdos: So, you're converting an existing non-separate home to a separate home?
[05:19] <z80ASM> Hey.
[05:19] <holyguyver> Flannel I did sudo it, I did not get any errors, it said everything worked out fine, yet itstill says it is 2.4 when it is supposed to now be 3.0
[05:19] <z80ASM> Do you know what to do, my sudo doesn't ask password?
[05:19] <Flannel> z80ASM: Have you used sudo recently?
[05:19] <z80ASM> Yes, last time it didn't resolve...
[05:20] <Flannel> holyguyver: How are you verifying 2.4 vs 3.0?
[05:20] <z80ASM> But I changed all hosts to same.
[05:20] <Flannel> z80ASM: try sudo -K, then try again
[05:20] <z80ASM> But now doesn't ask password, een I put a one
[05:20] <kuthux> how to change sudo timeout ?
[05:20] <powertool08> nevermind, fixed itself...
[05:20] <z80ASM> Doesn't work.
[05:20] <kernando> something really weird happend to my desktop graphics i donno how to explain it but everything looks more blocky and oldschool or something
[05:20] <holyguyver> Flannel in both the splashscreen & also in the About this app
[05:20] <z80ASM> Thanks!
[05:20] <New`Bie> guys !
[05:20] <z80ASM> It works now. :D
[05:20] <kuthux> how to change sudo timeout ?
[05:20] <sleep_> hello everybody
[05:20] <abchirk> hi
[05:21] <New`Bie> Just installed ubuntu in my computer. But booting is very slow can any one tell me what can be the issue ?
[05:21] <bobertdos> Flannel: Nah, just wondering if, say for example, when Jaunty comes, if I would encounter conflicts between settings in my /home partition from Ibex.
[05:21] <paul68> BlueEagle: goodmorning are you awake ?
[05:21] <Flannel> bobertdos: and you'll be migrating to a separate partition? or reinstalling overtop (leaving your home?) or what?
[05:22] <bobertdos> Flannel: reinstalling overtop, I suppose it would be
[05:22] <Flannel> holyguyver: Hmmm, well, what package did you install?  you can check the package version to see what version(s) your package manager thinks you have
[05:22] <Nazarah> i am having issues getting the wireless internet working : / anyone can help would be awsome (>^_^)>
[05:22] <holyguyver> Flannel I installed 3.0
[05:22] <Srle> just point home to your existing home partition, but not format it when partitioning
[05:23] <BlueEagle> paul68: Just barely.
[05:23] <holyguyver> Flannel, but before that my computer had 2.4
[05:23] <Flannel> bobertdos: If you reinstall overtop with a separate home, then your old settings will survive.  Anything thats changed config file formats will likely know how to automatically convert to the new format.
[05:23] <Flannel> bobertdos: Similar to what would happen if you upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid
[05:23] <New`Bie> Nazarah:  just got my connection working :)
[05:23] <New`Bie> Nazarah:  what problem are you facing?
[05:23] <hhos> will ubuntu run well in vmware?
[05:23] <Flannel> holyguyver: What package?
[05:23] <Nazarah> im at the network screen, but its not showing wireless connection and ive gone through all the help : /
[05:23] <holyguyver> Flannel, Open Office.
[05:24] <histo> god can't play two types of audio at once.
[05:24] <Flannel> holyguyver: Whats the package name?
[05:24] <Flannel> holyguyver: or the deb file name
[05:24] <Srle> hhos - yes
[05:24] <hhos> histo depends which god
[05:24] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok can you have a look at this link, if I implement this that I'm good to go for a router firewall on my server? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[05:24] <bobertdos> Flannel: Yeah, I always kind of assumed most of the frontends would be smart enough to handle that, but I was just wondering if there was much of a history of things going wrong with that.
[05:24] <holyguyver> Flannel, I just told you, & it has about 50 deb files.
[05:24] <brutalchrist> hi
[05:24] <rkvirani> Anyone know if Ubuntu will ever get good power managment for laptops?
[05:25] <holyguyver> Flannel, & as I saidall of the debs say 3.0.0-9
[05:25] <Flannel> holyguyver: the package name wouldn't be "open office" it may be hyphenated, etc.  Likely with a -3.0 at the end or something.
[05:25] <legend2440> if i do a clean install of intrepid. if i do dpkg --get-selections >myselections to get a list of all installed packages in hardy. is there a way to use this list to install the same packages in intrepid? so i dont have to install them all individually
[05:25] <brutalchrist> I have a problem with shell script
[05:25] <brutalchrist> D:
[05:25] <Flannel> holyguyver: Hmm, alright, pastebin the output of this: `dpkg -l | grep office`
[05:26] <kuthux> how much time does it took for sudo to timeout? and how to change the timeout ?
[05:26] <Flannel> kuthux: 5 minutes by default, and you do it in your sudoers file
[05:26] <brutalchrist> alguien que hable español y que sepa shell script?
[05:26] <brutalchrist> xD
[05:27] <kuthux> ok Flannel, i'll check it out
[05:27] <paul68> !esp |brutalchrist
[05:27] <BlueEagle> paul68: The one thing that I worry about is your linksys acting as a router with it's own dhcp server. You might want to investigate the possibility for it to ask your linux box for ip-adresses. Especially if you want to forward traffic to any of the machines connected via wireless. If this is not an issue then it looks good.
[05:27] <Flannel> kuthux: sorry, default is 15
[05:27] <Srle> srdjan@Desktop:~$ man sudo | grep extend
[05:27] <Srle>            extends the sudo timeout for another 15 minutes (or whatever the
[05:27] <Srle> srdjan@Desktop:~$
[05:27] <Flannel> !es | brutalchrist
[05:27] <Srle> so, read man for sudo
[05:27] <holyguyver> Flannel,  here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/57281/ it says 3.0 in that
[05:28] <brutalchrist> ok
[05:28] <kuthux> Flannel:  nothing said about timeout in /etc/sudoers
[05:28] <Flannel> kuthux: correct.  Its got a default value. timestamp_timeout
[05:28] <paul68> BlueEagle: the part of the dhcp is going to be 2 nics instead of 4
[05:28] <Flannel> holyguyver: you have both 3.0 and 2.4, so they have different binaries, you're still running the 2.4
[05:29] <BlueEagle> paul68: Also, the firewall script that is listed there is more easily done with shorewall or even firestarter.
[05:29] <holyguyver> Flannel, so what do I do about that?
[05:29] <paul68> BlueEagle: the part I was interested in was the way the dhcp server is setup for the 2 nics
[05:30] <kuthux> Flannel: so where is the timestamp_timeout ?
[05:30] <paul68> BlueEagle: also have webmin installed if that may be helpfull?
[05:30] <holyguyver> Flannel, sure is a popular guy :p
[05:30] <Flannel> holyguyver: They're likely called different things.  I have no idea what the binary for it is called, looks like ooffice.  so, go to a terminal, type "oo" and hit tab, you'll see a list of things it could be.
[05:30] <legend2440> kuthux: see post #5    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763142
[05:30] <Flannel> holyguyver: I'll bet ooffice3 is the binary, but you'll have to check
[05:31] <Flannel> kuthux:
[05:31] <Flannel> kuthux: Its not set by default.  Its omitted, with a default value internally.  You'll have to set it.
[05:31] <kuthux> Flannel: ok
[05:31] <holyguyver> Flannel,  bash: oo: command not found
[05:31] <holyguyver> O wait I didn't hit tab
[05:32] <holyguyver> Alright it worked
[05:32] <Flannel> holyguyver: do you see some command with 3 at the end?
[05:32] <holyguyver> Flannel,  oo oobase          oodraw          oofromtemplate  ooweb oocalc          ooffice         ooimpress       oowriter
[05:33] <Flannel> holyguyver: Obviously not.  Ok, do this: dpkg -L openoffice.org3-writer | grep /usr/bin
[05:33] <kuthux> Flannel: solved, thx@lot
[05:33] <Flannel> holyguyver: that'll give you the binaries contained in that package
[05:33] <Crusader_tech> Ok, I think i'm completely head over heals for Ubuntu.  There seems to have been some huge improvements in WINE since I last looked, and the few critical windows apps I had are running great, with little setup.
[05:34] <Crusader_tech> So is it true I really dont have to mess with anti-virus software?
[05:34] <sravan> how to install SQL in linux..?
[05:34] <BlueEagle> paul68: the shorewall module for webmin is outdated. Not sure how up-to-date the other modules are.
[05:34] <holyguyver> Flannel, when I did that nothing came up.
[05:35]  * rkvirani has to go study his philosophy
[05:35] <BlueEagle> paul68: I'm not using dhcpd3. I use dnsmasq for my dns requirements.
[05:35] <Stanley^^> please,how to make firefox know ed2k protocol?
[05:35] <Srle> holyguyver what r u trying to do?
[05:35] <Lartza_> how can i fix windows mbr from ubuntu live cd?
[05:36] <holyguyver> Srle to run Open Office.
[05:36] <Srle> insert win-install disk, enter DOS mode and type fixmbr
[05:36] <Flannel> holyguyver: pastebin the output of dpkg -L openoffice.org3-writer
[05:36] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok just thought I'd mentioned it before we are working and you come to the conclusion that it's easier through webmin :-)   ok I will ask my friend here
[05:36] <sledge> I have just finished installing my WInTV HVR 1600 tuner card
[05:36] <Srle> holy.. - so whats the problem
[05:36] <holyguyver> Flannel, there was no output.
[05:36] <sledge> i get this error   75.404890] cx18-0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx23418-dig.fw
[05:36] <Flannel> holyguyver: Without the grep?
[05:37] <holyguyver> Flannel, I typed in this dpkg -L openoffice.org3-writer | grep /usr/bin
[05:37] <Flannel> holyguyver: right, pastebin the output of dpkg -L openoffice.org3-writer
[05:37] <Lartza_> Srle: i cant acceess dos mode in any way
[05:37] <james_dean> hey
[05:37] <mochabcha> I can't get any ports open to use Transmission
[05:37] <mochabcha> does anyone know how in Ubuntu Hardy
[05:37] <james_dean> Question, What does setting the broadcast IP with ifconfig do?
[05:38] <holyguyver> Flannel, /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
[05:39] <sledge> omg
[05:39] <sledge> i i think i just messe dup
[05:39] <holyguyver> Srle, it would seem that I have both oo 2.4 & 3.0 on my system but can  only reach 2.4 & only want 3.0 on my system.
[05:39] <Flannel> holyguyver: Oh, it installed to /opt/?  interesting.  That's unusual.
[05:39] <Srle> hoholyguyver, ok...
[05:39] <Flannel> holyguyver: then there you go.  That's your path to start writer.
[05:39] <james_dean> Has anyone ever ran a steam source server on ubuntu?  I am having some real difficulties accessing the server.
[05:39] <BlueEagle> james_dean: it sets the tcp/ip broadcast address for that interface.
[05:39] <holyguyver> Flannel, I guess so, why did it install there?
[05:39] <james_dean> ok
[05:39] <Srle> hoholyguyver,  go to that dir and search for execurtable
[05:40] <Flannel> holyguyver: Because thats where the package told it to install.  It's third party, could do anything.
[05:40] <airtonix> mochabcha, best way is to use a dedicated port...you need to port-forward a port on your router to your machine and tell transmission to use that port
[05:40] <holyguyver> Flannel, how do I tell it to uninstall that & install it in the correct location?
[05:40] <BlueEagle> james_dean: Are you running a firewall? Is your modem/router forwarding traffic to your server?
[05:40] <holyguyver> Flannel, I got the package from oo.org's website, it is their deb package.
[05:41] <james_dean> NO firewall that I know of, this is a clean hardy server install.  My router is forwarding all ports to it correctly, however I still cant get on my lan....
[05:41] <Srle> hoholyguyver,   ls /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
[05:41] <james_dean> from my windows server to the other.  I can SSH, FTP, HTTP, you name it... just not steam
[05:41] <airtonix> mochabcha, and then you'll need to allow traffic on that port using the firestarter user interface of your choice
[05:41] <Flannel> holyguyver: you don't tell it to uninstall and reinstall in a "correct" location.  That's the location its installing.  It's not wrong, just unusual.
[05:41] <airtonix> mochabcha, i meant firewall ui...usually this is firestarter
[05:42] <holyguyver> Flannel, How do I tell it to install in the place of the 2.4 one?
[05:42] <Flannel> holyguyver: you don't.  Not with those packages.
[05:42] <mochabcha> I don't think there is a firewall active, is there a way to tell
[05:42] <Srle> first uninstall 2.4
[05:42] <BlueEagle> james_dean: How is your network topology set up?
[05:42] <Flannel> Srle: Won't help.
[05:42] <airtonix> mochabcha, i've noticed that in order to get decent speeds you need to also raise the maximum peers per torrent with transmission
[05:42] <mrpockets> k
[05:42] <mrpockets> I need someone who really knows their shizznaazzzz
[05:43] <mrpockets> configuring Amarok's engine
[05:43] <mrpockets> configured to use ALSA
[05:43] <airtonix> mochabcha, ubuntu uses iptables for the firewall...so you have had one since day one. you ccan install firestarter or ufw to control the firewall.
[05:43] <mrpockets> with 6_ channels being on the 5.1 interface
[05:43] <holyguyver> Flannel,  Srle you two argue over this & give me the best solution that you two come up with :p
[05:43] <Srle> sudo apt-get remove openoffice  (old)   then install the .deb package with dpkg -i openoffice.newone
[05:43] <mrpockets> but on the Stereo : default, i want that to use my line-out
[05:43] <Flannel> holyguyver: There is no better solution.  You're installed, they're installed.  Use them.
[05:43] <amenado> mochabcha--> to check firewall rules..  sudo iptables -vL
[05:44] <mochabcha> what am I looking for
[05:44] <airtonix> amenado, which isnt going to mean much to a novice
[05:44] <holyguyver> Srle, there is not one deb, it is around 50 debs
[05:44] <mochabcha> amenado: sry* what am I looking for
[05:44] <holyguyver> Flannel, but there are no menu icons, I cannot reach it.
[05:44] <amenado> mochabcha--> you look if there are any rules, you can paste in pastebin for us to check
[05:44] <holyguyver> Flannel, I can only reach the old one.
[05:44] <mochabcha> amenado: ok holon
[05:44] <kernando> so my graphics look really weird right now...when i right click on the desktop and go to change desktop bkround etc.. it says unable to start the setting s manager'gnome-settings-daemon'
[05:44] <sweetgum> could someone tell me the keyboard command to go from the dos/kernel mode to the login screen?
[05:44] <james_dean> Anyways, my network is setup like this.   I have a tomato router connecting to the internet, connected to that is my windows pc (gaming) and my linux server is on the router too
[05:44] <goat|lappy> holyguyver: you have to redirect the menu to the new location
[05:45] <kernando> how do i fix it just do a restart or something?
[05:45] <Srle> holyguyver,  what's the output of  "ls /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter"
[05:45] <amenado> mochabcha--> you can also use google to look for a sample results of iptables -vL to compare
[05:45] <goat|lappy> system -> pref -> main menu
[05:45] <Flannel> holyguyver: The packages don't have menu items included in them, you'll have to create them yourself.
[05:45] <holyguyver> Srle, there was no output to that.
[05:45] <Srle> holyguyver,  what's the output of  "ls /opt/openoffice.org3/program/"
[05:45] <Srle> sorry
[05:45] <Flannel> holyguyver: You can reach the new ones by typing in their locations, etc.
[05:45] <sweetgum> could someone tell me the keyboard command to go from the dos/kernel mode to the login screen?
[05:45] <mochabcha> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d1e55f171
[05:45] <Srle> startx
[05:46] <Srle> sweetgim - startx
[05:46] <Flannel> holyguyver: They're not Ubuntu packages, you should be happy they installed (and hopefully work) at all.
[05:46] <james_dean> is there a default firewall on hardy server?
[05:46] <sweetgum> srle: it isn't installed
[05:46] <indian_munnda> sweetgum: ctrl+alt+f7
[05:46] <airtonix> mochabcha, just install ufw : sudo apt-get install ufw , then : sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw status.
[05:46] <paul68> amenado: can you check for me if the dhcp part of the next link (in my case 2 nics) is the correct way to set it up with a dns server thanks in advance http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[05:46] <sweetgum> indian_munnda: thats what im looking for
[05:46] <amenado> mochabcha--> yep, you have rulez , therefore your firewall is active
[05:46] <sweetgum> indian_munnda: thanks.
[05:46] <indian_munnda> sweetgum: mention not
[05:46] <airtonix> james_dean, yes... its called iptables, you can use firestarter or ufw to control it
[05:46] <Srle> i think your version 3 is not installed corectly
[05:47] <james_dean> what is the easiest way to control it from comand line
[05:47] <holyguyver> Srle, I agree with you there.
[05:47] <BlueEagle> james_dean: also, by default all traffic is allowed trough the firewall unchecked.
[05:47] <airtonix> james_dean, , just install ufw : sudo apt-get install ufw , then : sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw status.
[05:47] <BlueEagle> james_dean: However, the firewall does allow for some nice logging features.
[05:47] <airtonix> james_dean, to allow traffic on port 80 to enter your machine : sudo ufw allow 80
[05:47] <Srle> can you tell me the source to that 3.0 package so I can see what it is
[05:47] <Srle> and what architecrture u use
[05:48] <airtonix> james_dean, take some time to read this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[05:48] <BlueEagle> james_dean: oh, and don't try to set up a firewall if you have got no physical access to the box. You will almost certainly lock yourself out during the process.
[05:48] <james_dean> Blue, I just cant figure out why my source server isnt accepting pings or anything from my client.  I try under hlsw too
[05:48] <holyguyver> Srle, I got it from the oo.org website & it was the deb 385 or whatever archutecture
[05:48] <Srle> 385?
[05:48] <sweetgum> Srle: are you talking to me?
[05:48] <airtonix> mochabcha, you also take some time to read this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[05:49] <Srle> you mean 386?
[05:49] <Flannel> holyguyver: It's installed correctly.  It's a third party package, they can tell it to install whereever they want.  It's installed.  Use it. Please stop wasting Srle's time.
[05:49] <Srle> i386?
[05:49] <amenado> paul68--> those are the tutorials i referred you to, for your case you only need to activate the serving of dchp on your eth1, as I recall I suggested you use eth0 towards your ISP and eth1 towards your lan
[05:49] <BlueEagle> james_dean: If your server has got more than one NIC then you might be listening on the wrong one.
[05:49] <Srle> Flannel - it;s ok
[05:49] <james_dean> hmm
[05:49] <holyguyver> Flannel, shut up, if Srle wants to help that is his choice.
[05:49] <DigitalFiz> when i plug my camera in it doesnt mount the 2 drives does anyone know how i can debug this and fix it?
[05:49] <BlueEagle> !tab | james_dean
[05:49] <Flannel> holyguyver: there's nothing he can help you *with*
[05:50] <james_dean> I have an lo and an eth0
[05:50] <Srle> give me the exact link of what u downloaded to install
[05:50] <holyguyver> Srle, Yes 386, I guess I am one point short of an archutecture in my head :p
[05:50] <Srle> holyguyver give me the exact link of what u downloaded to install
[05:50] <amenado> james_dean--> same for you,  sudo iptables -vL   to see if rules are active
[05:50] <mochabcha> amenado: ufw is active and it seems that the port 21376 is active http://pastebin.com/d71995ea7
[05:50] <james_dean> sudo: iptables: command not found
[05:50] <Srle> and give me the output of "uname -a" command
[05:51] <james_dean> Linux hellcat 2.6.24-19-server #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 18:43:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:51] <mochabcha> amenado: however, when I choose this port in Transmission, it tells me the port is closed
[05:51] <airtonix> amenado, the output of that command is gibberish to a novice... compare it to the output of : sudo ufw status
[05:51] <Think_Differentl> does ubuntu keep building CD images for ppc, even though it's not supported officially?
[05:51] <Srle> holyguyver - give me the output of "uname -a" and the exact location of what you downlaoded to isntall
[05:51] <holyguyver> Srle, uname -a Linux jack-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:51] <amenado> mochabcha--> if you dont know iptables, i can not help you much
[05:51] <BlueEagle> james_dean: sudo apt-get install iptables
[05:51] <airtonix> mochabcha, its becuase you need to port forward that port and open it. like i said easiest way is with ufw, unless you want to spend couple months learning how to use iptables directly
[05:52] <Srle> holyguyver - now give me the exact link of what package you downladed
[05:52] <amenado> james_dean--> you dont have iptables?   on command line type    which iptables
[05:52] <paul68> amenado: oeps my mistake got so many links and reading them first before taking action, but the first part of the dhcp config it lists out all the subnet and stuff, if modify my dhcp conf will it be sufficient for the dhcp part
[05:52] <james_dean> nope
[05:52] <holyguyver> Srle, http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxinteldeb&lang=en-US&version=3.0.0
[05:52] <james_dean> let me try
[05:52] <Srle> holyguyver - ok, wait a min..
[05:52] <airtonix> BlueEagle, there is no need to install it...its already there
[05:52] <lastdays> asd
[05:52] <james_dean> If I install iptables, wont it just start blocking things?
[05:53] <BlueEagle> airtonix: then why does he get a command not found?
[05:53] <amenado> james_dean--> nope, you have to create the rules first
[05:53] <james_dean> ah thank you amenado
[05:53] <airtonix> sigh
[05:53] <holyguyver> Flannel, then let me put it this way, if he wants to waste his time helping me needlessly tweak my system, then that is his choice.
[05:53] <james_dean> which iptables returns no results
[05:53] <airtonix> james_dean, locate iptables | grep bin
[05:54] <airtonix> james_dean, but as i said...unless you already know how to manipulate iptables with awesome proficiency...you should just stick to ufw
[05:54] <amenado> paul68--> what have you done yet? guessing from the tutorial is not my way of assisting, perhaps you can paste in pastebin the dhcp config file you have
[05:54] <Flannel> holyguyver: there's no tweaking to be done.  I have no idea what you think you're going to accomplish.  Packages install to pre-determined locations.  the OOo people want that to install to /opt/ and don't include .desktop files for icons.  It's simple as that, there is no more.  you'll have to hand-configure your menu entries.
[05:55] <amenado> james_dean--> i think airtonix knows your situation well, giving you commands regarding iptables will not help if you do not understood what they do
[05:55] <airtonix> james_dean, which leads me to my next point, if your new to networking security then all of this isnt going to be obvious with out some time set aisde to read stuff
[05:56] <amenado> james_dean--> so bottom line, read up more tutorials
[05:56] <holyguyver> Flannel, did you not see my word "Needlessly" that means that no tweaking needs to be done, but if I choose to tweak my system I may, that is the whole thing about Free Software.
[05:56] <airtonix> james_dean, heck *i* dont even know how to manipulate iptables...its a nightmare
[05:56] <james_dean> Dang airtonix!
[05:56] <Srle> holyguyver - so it was one "something.deb" file?
[05:56] <airtonix> james_dean, so have a look at installing ufw. sudo apt-get install ufw
[05:56] <james_dean> Its frustrating,  I am on a lan and the stupid server wont see it.  I can ssh, ftp, http, you name it
[05:56] <james_dean> Do I need iptables or ufw to run a lan server?
[05:56] <holyguyver> Srle,  no I already told you it was 50 or so .deb files.
[05:57] <amenado> james_dean--> wait a minute, the problem is the destination or your localhost?
[05:57] <backslash7> Good morning
[05:57] <airtonix> james_dean, you *should* have iptables as part of the default install....
[05:57] <james_dean> ok I have two computers on one router.
[05:57] <Srle> and how did you installed them?
[05:57] <airtonix> james_dean, this command will tell you if this is true or not : locate iptables | grep bin
[05:57] <james_dean> One is a windows client, running windows xp 64 bit.  The other is a pretty clean install of hardy server
[05:57] <james_dean> 64
[05:57] <holyguyver> Srle, ask flannel, he told me, it was dpkg something
[05:58] <james_dean> I just installed ufw and iptables
[05:58] <airtonix> james_dean, on your hardy run : locate iptables | grep bin
[05:58] <james_dean> UFW is disabled
[05:58] <airtonix> james_dean, sudo ufw enable
[05:58] <james_dean> Firewall started and enabled on system startup
[05:58] <amenado> james_dean--> okay, so you are pinging which? from where? and what command you use to ping?
[05:58] <backslash7> I screwed up my Ubuntu installation but I'm not able to uninstall it, I just can't. The problem is that Gnome is pretty fucked up, meaning that I have no options in "Connect to server", the themes are uncomplete and so on. An even bigger problem is that I can't install stuff using apt-get, e.g. xchat depends on libperl 5.8 but 5.10 is installed "but is not going to be installed" I get those confusing error messages all the time.
[05:58] <backslash7> Any help really appreciated!
[05:58] <backslash7> I don't know what to do anymore.
[05:59] <james_dean> I can ping the server just fine, like I said, I ssh to it alot, from work behind a corporate firewall
[05:59] <airtonix> james_dean, now when you want to open a port, say for example , port 9999 you would use : sudo ufw allow 9999
[05:59] <james_dean> ok
[05:59] <james_dean> how do I define udp or tcp?
[05:59] <backslash7> It's probably because I messed around with libgtk and gtk(+) to develop in C, so Gnome is not working anymore.
[05:59] <Srle> then u allready installed it
[05:59] <Flannel> backslash7: Sounds like you have mixed repositories.
[05:59] <airtonix> james_dean, it will pay to read this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[05:59] <backslash7> Flannel: Yes, I once modified the sources.list but I changed it back
[05:59] <amenado> backslash7--> you have the liveCD ? use that to re-install
[05:59] <james_dean> Thank you airtonix
[06:00] <backslash7> amenado: I can't reinstall it, it's not my computer. I just have to FIX it, not reinstall.... Or what do you mean?
[06:00] <airtonix> james_dean, and this one for general rundown on how security is handled in ubuntu : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[06:00] <indian_munnda> backslash7: do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <Srle> holyguyver,  what's the output of  "ls /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter"  --  or if you can run "mc" in terminal - use it to browse through that oo3 folder and see what was actually installed there
[06:00] <Flannel> backslash7: When you modified (and installed/upgraded the new stuff), changing it back in the sources.list won't help.  You'll have to downgrade each package that was upgraded, etc.
[06:00] <backslash7> amenado: Can I reinstall just the Gnome stuff but keep /home data and settings ?
[06:00] <backslash7> indian_munnda: I did that, it's still all messed up and uncomplete
[06:00] <james_dean> got any info on runlevels?
[06:01] <Gnea> backslash7: could be the ~/.gnome* and/or ~/.gconf* directories have malformed data in them
[06:01] <backslash7> Flannel: Hmm... and how would I do that?
[06:01] <holyguyver> Srle, I am talking to you in PMs
[06:01] <indian_munnda> backslash7: do u have sufficient space on hdd
[06:01] <backslash7> Flannel: I went to console modus and removed everthing gnome* after changing source.list back
[06:01] <Gnea> backslash7: does the problem persist if you make a new account and log into it?
[06:01] <amenado> backslash7--> umm, listen to indian_munnda --he's got good ideas
[06:01] <backslash7> Gnea: I could try if you want me to, may it help?
[06:01] <backslash7> indian_munnda: Yes, I do. Why? Create backup of /home and reinstall ?
[06:02] <Gnea> backslash7: it would help determine where the real issue is
[06:02] <backslash7> Gnea: Okay, I'll give it a shot then
[06:02] <Flannel> backslash7: perl would be one thing, etc.  probably a number of other lower level packages as well.  I agree that a reinstall would be easiest.  And yes, if you move /home to a separate partition, you'll be able to reinstall without affecting it.
[06:03] <Flannel> backslash7: the other alternative would be to complete the upgrade
[06:03] <backslash7> Flannel: The second option would be better for me....
[06:03] <backslash7> Since I don't really wanna change big things on this computer
[06:03] <backslash7> Like messing around with data and partitions....
[06:04] <backslash7> May I solve the problem with apt-get stuff only? Downgrade everything and so on....
[06:04] <paul68> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/1226545
[06:04] <Gnea> backslash7: i agree with Flannel that an upgrade is probably in order. what results from lsb_release -r
[06:04] <amenado> james_dean--> what do you meant by ", I just cant figure out why my source server isnt accepting pings or anything from my client.  I try under hlsw too"  but you also said I can ping the server just fine, like I said, I ssh to it alot, from work behind a corporate firewall..conflicting infos
[06:04] <airtonix> It seems that some of the new helpers here have some fairly advanced experience with linux, but are not aware of the more simple approaches to the situations many new users a facing. it would pay to become familiar with those aspects so we dont create fear amongst the newcomers trying to get to grips with ubuntu...
[06:05] <backslash7> Gnea: 8.04
[06:05] <ledenby> airtonix: amen!
[06:05] <Flannel> backslash7: downgrading is tedious, etc.  But technically doable.
[06:05] <backslash7> Flannel: I'd try it if I can....
[06:06] <Gnea> backslash7: have you looked at the system logs yet to see if maybe there's a problem with the hard drive?
[06:06] <airtonix> and conversly many new users seem to be new to the idea of providing concise and clear information about their situation, when we can both stop trying to sidestep important information for the sake of speeding things up...then we can all help each other with quality support
[06:06] <backslash7> Gnea: No, the problem just started after I messed around with gtk stuff
[06:06] <Gnea> backslash7: what do you mean, exactly, by "messed around"? installing/uninstalling or..?
[06:06] <indian_munnda> backslash7: i think u need to install gdm agian
[06:06] <amenado> paul68--> can you change your nick to something else, another paul keeps popping up when i tab twice
[06:06] <james_dean> amendo, I meant when I am on my windows pc and I try to connect via steam to the server, it will not connect.  It does not show the server in the lan browser, which on a windows server, there is no problem.
[06:07] <backslash7> Gnea: All sorts of stuff, uninstalled gtkxxxxx and libgtkxxxx reinstalled ,compiled from source... It was stupid....
[06:07] <james_dean> amendo,I dont know what I did wrong to my server, something must have gone wrong.
[06:07] <xjohnthomasx> hi there, i have a very difficult problem -- gnome doesn't seem to store my wireless password settings, and it thus keeps me from being able to connect to any encrypted/secured wireless network.. i can connect to my network fine when it's unsecured, and my laptop which is running ubuntu 7.10 can connect to my wireless network  fine even when it's secured, but this desktop with 8.04 ubuntu just won't!! please anyone help!!!
[06:07] <backslash7> indian_munnda: Gdm seems to be working fine, actually.... Why do you think so ?
[06:07] <amenado> james_dean--> what does it mean by connect via steam?  what application is that?
[06:07] <Gnea> backslash7: oh! so you uninstalled things just to see how the system works?
[06:07] <paul1968> amenado: better like this
[06:07] <indian_munnda> backslash7: you said that your gnome is not working fine
[06:08] <james_dean> amendo, steam is a application suite that runs halflife, counter-strike, and a bunch of other games.
[06:08] <backslash7> Gnea: No, I couldn't get it working with C. I wanted to develop something in C using gtk+
[06:08] <backslash7> indian_munnda: It isn't. True. Why ?
[06:08] <airtonix> amenado, steam is a platform for valves games, like half-life...its how they distribute and authenticate valid users
[06:08] <amenado> paul1968--> nope, that other paul keeps popping up
[06:08] <backslash7> The whole system is just pretty wasted
[06:08] <backslash7> ..
[06:08] <Gnea> backslash7: ah ok... are you able to update the repository information?
[06:08] <backslash7> yes
[06:08] <backslash7> update and upgrade
[06:08] <paul1968> amenado: darn your difficult lol
[06:08] <backslash7> all done
[06:09] <Gnea> backslash7: i may have missed it above, but were there any errors in regards to that?
[06:09] <amenado> paul1968--> i am trying to make it easy for me, so i dnt have to type much
[06:09] <backslash7> Gnea: No, it seemed to work fine. All up-to-data and complete. But it isn't, I'm missing all sorts of stuff
[06:09] <backslash7> e.g. trying to install xchat it say libperl5.8 is missing
[06:09] <Gnea> backslash7: okay, do you have pastebinit installed?
[06:09] <backslash7> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   xchat: Depends: libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.8) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[06:09] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: like this
[06:09] <backslash7> Gnea: No, what is it
[06:10] <amenado> james_dean--> are you running that steam services on ubuntu?
[06:10] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> much better, no confusion
[06:10] <ljsoftnet> how will i know what packages have been installed, when installing from a .deb file?
[06:10] <Gnea> backslash7: it's a simple program that allows you to pastebin massive amounts of text without having to select it all
[06:10] <backslash7> oka
[06:10] <Gnea> see if you can install it
[06:10] <backslash7> Gnea: Why, what do you want me to pastebin
[06:10] <xjohnthomasx> aargghhhhhhhhh where are all the super ubuntu geniuses? where is agent_bob and intuitive nipple?????
[06:10] <Flannel> backslash7: Now you manually install that package (sudo apt-get install libperl5.8) and see what error it gives, if its "but is not going to be installed" follow it one step further, etc.  Eventually you'll get an actual error message.
[06:10] <Flannel> ljsoftnet: dpkg -L package
[06:11] <Gnea> backslash7: well, you may need to pastebin some of the full errors - it would make troubleshooting much easier
[06:11] <FuDGe2> xjohnthomasx: I'm no super ubuntu genius, but mebbe try wicd as your network manager?
[06:11] <backslash7> Gnea: okay
[06:11] <amenado> james_dean--> if your ubuntu server is also sealed tight to block those protocols (by steam) then you'd have a problem,
[06:11] <Rezagrats> I need to shut off my computer in about an hour or after Devede creates the *.iso ... is there a way ?
[06:11] <backslash7> Flannel: I tried that long time before, i got until perl-baes (is already newest version)
[06:11] <backslash7> Keep getting errors
[06:12] <backslash7> Gnea: pastebinit is here.
[06:12] <ljsoftnet> Flannel, when am i going to use it?
[06:12] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> that paste you provided, that was the contents of which file again?
[06:12] <Flannel> ljsoftnet: what?
[06:12] <backslash7> Gnea: Am I gonna need pipes and stuff like that? Because my Alt-Gr isn't working for the pipe sign
[06:12] <backslash7> :P
[06:12] <`r0ot> Hello...,
[06:12] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: of my dhcp server and the network interfaces
[06:12] <Gnea> backslash7: yeah, can you do a shift-\  ?
[06:13] <ubuntu_todd> when I was watching yahoo music video in firefox. There would a  flv file in /tmp lasting no more than 1 sec? why?
[06:13] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> line 1 should not be in those files..
[06:13] <backslash7> Gnea: I'm on Swiss German keyboard, the backslash is not even reachable.... Since Alt-Gr isn't working
[06:13] <backslash7> Alt-Gr <> key is backslash here
[06:13] <airtonix> Rezagrats, i dont think devede supports 'auto shutdown when finished tasks' does it?
[06:13] <Gnea> backslash7: oh wow... are you stuck in console?
[06:13] <backslash7> Gnea: No, I'm in Gnome
[06:13] <Gnea> backslash7: here:  |
[06:13] <backslash7> Can't get AltGr working
[06:13] <backslash7> ok thx xD
[06:13] <backslash7> hahahaha
[06:13] <Gnea> lol
[06:13] <backslash7> Copied
[06:14] <FloodBot3> backslash7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <backslash7> Yeh sorry :P
[06:14] <geremy> does anybody know if there is an equivalent to zenity for e17?
[06:14] <backslash7> botty bot
[06:14] <airtonix> !enter | backslash7
[06:14] <Rezagrats> Airtonix, it doesn't. that's why im asking if there's an automated way of doing it. maybe a delayed hibernate function ?
[06:14] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: you mean the auto lo and Inet lo?
[06:14] <backslash7> Gnea: Okay, got the pipe. What now?
[06:14] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> also, I do not see your dhcp config file, thats just your interfaces file
[06:14] <Flannel> ljsoftnet: Yes, after installing it.
[06:14] <FPtje> hi
[06:14] <ljsoftnet> Flannel ah ok
[06:15] <FPtje> I've got some problems with my ubuntu
[06:15] <airtonix> Rezagrats, possibly i tried this awhile ago with a update of packages but, i did it wrong...im not sure what the cli command for hiberation without user input is
[06:15] <Gnea> backslash7: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep gtk | pastebinit
[06:15] <FPtje> When it starts up It gives an error where I have to enter my pass
[06:15] <`r0ot> how i can protect myself from Arp Spoofing ?
[06:15] <FPtje> and itś not the login screen
[06:15] <FPtje> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorta0.png
[06:15] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> per this http://pastebin.ca/1226545  line 1 is  dhcp server
[06:16] <backslash7> Gnea: "filename or pipe"
[06:16] <Taxyx> hi
[06:16] <airtonix> Rezagrats, in any case, you can schedule a shutdown with the shutdown command, have a look at the manual for the shutdown command
[06:16] <backslash7> Gnea: Error no arguments specified!
[06:16] <airtonix> Rezagrats, man shutdown
[06:16] <Gnea> backslash7: hrm... try this then:  pastebinit | dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep gtk
[06:17] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: true it was only the dhcp server and the network interfaces the dhcp.conf didn't adapt this since I was not sure how to modify the config file like the howto is indicating
[06:17] <backslash7> Gnea: Is it uploaded now ?
[06:17] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: ok
[06:17] <Gnea> backslash7: i don't know, did it give you a url?
[06:17] <backslash7> no
[06:17] <Gnea> hrm
[06:17] <geremy> `r0ot: just hardcode your allowed MACs
[06:18] <backslash7> Gnea: Well, I got the output.
[06:18] <airtonix> Rezagrats, i think that if you know how long it will be before you can safely shutdown then : sudo shutdown -P 1h  (which would shutdown in an hours time)
[06:18] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> kindly separate the two files when you paste, or clearly delineate where one file ends and the other begins
[06:18] <Gnea> backslash7: aaah... i see
[06:18] <mage__> for some reason when i switch to console (ctrl+alt+f1) music stops, how can I track this down?
[06:18] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: sorry me still learning
[06:18] <amenado> Rezagrats--> you can also use cron to shutdown,
[06:19] <Rezagrats> Airtonix, i rarely 'shutdown,' i usually just hit hibernate so that everything is still there.
[06:19] <Gnea> backslash7: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep gtk > gtk-stuff.txt && cat gtk-stuff.txt | pastebinit
[06:19] <airtonix> Rezagrats, i could be wrong though....it a pity that devede doesnt at least have an option to exit itself after tasks have completed because then you could chain the shutdown command after it
[06:19] <`r0ot> geremy: how i can do that ?
[06:19] <airtonix> Rezagrats, we woulld need to find out what the cli command for hibernate is then
[06:19] <backslash7> Gnea: :O Naise!!! http://pastebin.com/f3933c120
[06:19] <Gnea> :)
[06:19] <airtonix> Rezagrats, surely there is one...
[06:19] <amenado> Rezagrats--> you are able to make the hibernate work okay on ubuntu? you are the lucky few that have..most i see complain that it does not work when awakened
[06:20] <geremy> use the arp command
[06:20] <geremy> `r0ot: use the arp command
[06:20] <jim_p> hello!
[06:20] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: can I use the config file like its mentioned in the howto you send me
[06:20] <amenado> Rezagrats--> its not a big deal, write a scripts that checks the exist status of a command then execute another command based on that
[06:20] <airtonix> Rezagrats, here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[06:20] <anden> hey
[06:20] <geremy> `r0ot: arp -i <interface> -s <ip> <mac>
[06:20] <Rezagrats> Amenado, yeah, it works.. but there's this annoying sound that goes off when i get the login part.
[06:21] <mage__> !pulse
[06:21] <mage__> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:21] <`r0ot> oh that more easy from man :)
[06:21] <xjohnthomasx> FuDGe2, where do i get wicd? it isnt in the repo..???
[06:21] <geremy> `r0ot: you probably also want something like snort or arpwatch
[06:21] <backslash7> Gnea: So?
[06:21] <Gnea> backslash7: checking...
[06:21] <backslash7> k
[06:22] <FPtje> Guys
[06:22] <geremy> `r0ot: snort is more general, arpwatch better against the specific threat you're looking at
[06:22] <geremy> fptje: yes?
[06:22] <airtonix> amenado, that would be ideal, except that devede only quits when a user clicks exit...something Rezagrats wont be around to do when required.
[06:22] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> lets back up a little, have you tried to connect your ubuntu directly yet to the isp/modem ? did the static ip address you set 213.x.x.x worked?
[06:22] <FPtje> I 've got an error on startup geremy
[06:22] <FPtje> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorta0.png
[06:22] <Srle> Rezagrats - go to system prefereneces sounds and disable sound on login event
[06:23] <airtonix> amenado, unless you are aware of some way to make devede quit when running tasks have completed ?
[06:23] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: like I said did not change anything yet before I'm sure the changes that I want to make are the right ones, this to avoid the wife getting mad and yelling there is no internet
[06:23] <backslash7> Gnea: Can I help in a way?
[06:23] <`r0ot> geremy: i got syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[06:23] <geremy> fptje: ich sprechen nicht deutch
[06:23] <Rezagrats> Srle, this is when i start up from hibernate. just before the login window/box appears some incoherent sounds goes off (and it's not consistent, it's random. comes on often but not 100% of the time)
[06:23] <amenado> airtonix--> oh well, that is a limitation then if it has no way to pass status of what it is doing to the shell
[06:23] <FPtje> ITS DUTCH!
[06:23] <FPtje> Hurr :P
[06:24] <backslash7> ^^
[06:24] <supertanker> Is there any good text/terminal mode word processor?
[06:24] <supertanker> Besides, say, nano or vim >_>
[06:24] <FPtje> I cant have the english version
[06:24] <Gnea> backslash7: okay....
[06:24] <geremy> fptje: i don't speak that either- I can barely manage english
[06:24] <FPtje> but you get the program names
[06:24] <backslash7> yes?
[06:24] <chaddy> supertanker: emacs?
[06:24] <airtonix> amenado, sometimes i think that recently created linux software ignores many of the concepts held dear for a long time.
[06:24] <supertanker> chaddy: Besides emacs
[06:24] <FPtje> which language do you speak then, french?
[06:24] <carrebeanpirates> Fptje Dutch is a good language I speak it like a charm
[06:24] <Srle> Rezagrats - dunno then... :(
[06:24] <Flannel> supertanker: text editors + LaTeX (and then some utilities to make them happier together, like aspell, etc) are probably your best bet
[06:24] <supertanker> I mean that I could use to write my books, etc.
[06:24] <supertanker> Flannel: Thanks.
[06:24] <Gnea> backslash7: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common
[06:24] <mtraven> Help, I killed my Ubuntu trying to upgrade to 8.04....now it won't boot, stops at /scripts/init-bottom....what can I do?
[06:24] <FPtje> Anyway can anyone help me with this error?
[06:24] <FPtje> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorta0.png
[06:25] <amenado> airtonix--> i know, all these bleeding edge crap that forgets the basic tenets of kiss... hehe
[06:25] <geremy> `r0ot: don't type the chevrons
[06:25] <airtonix> Rezagrats, its unfortunate that devede doesnt have this kind of feature, since it is very good at what it does
[06:25] <backslash7> Gnea: Done.
[06:25] <kelvin911> hi
[06:25] <kelvin911> how come i cant export to eps or jpg in xfig?
[06:25] <FPtje> anyone?
[06:25] <Rezagrats> Srle, it's ok. the people that tried to help on ubuntuforums were baffled as to why this happens.
[06:25] <FuDGe2> xjohnthomasx: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[06:25] <geremy> fptje: sorry, i can't help you if I can't read the error message.
[06:25] <Gnea> backslash7: okay, try to run gimp now
[06:25] <kelvin911> did i miss some lib file?
[06:25] <airtonix> supertanker, what have you tried using so far?
[06:25] <`r0ot> geremy: what is chevrons :( ?
[06:25] <geremy> `r0ot: <>
[06:26] <backslash7> Gnea: Running.
[06:26] <backslash7> Gnea: Although I believe it was already before..... hmm
[06:26] <Gnea> !nl | FPtje
[06:26] <backslash7> Whatever.
[06:26] <FPtje> The program 'nm-applet' wants access to the standard keyring(?) but it is closed
[06:26] <Srle> Rezagrats - are you hearing some recognizable sound clips or just some unarticulated cra_P? :)
[06:26] <Gnea> FPtje: can't read that, can only read english :/
[06:26] <FPtje> thatś the error
[06:26] <Rezagrats> Airtonix, it does miss a couple features. maybe. but an anime i used in devede didn't have the subs on them. (though the portable dvd player _was_ old.)
[06:26] <carrebeanpirates> FPtje: you have to enter your password for the keywallet there
[06:26] <FPtje> in english
[06:26] <FPtje> yes
[06:26] <Gnea> backslash7: what about other gtk programs?
[06:26] <FPtje> but I get it every time I start up
[06:26] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> you probably need to set a time, where you swap your router with your ubuntu to test if you ubuntu is at least minimum can test the assigned static ip address
[06:26] <backslash7> Gnea: What would that be...
[06:26] <FPtje> every single time
[06:27] <Gnea> backslash7: whatever's been giving you problems
[06:27] <backslash7> Gnea: Could I try to install Xchat now? The libperl, perl-base problem stuff
[06:27] <FPtje> I dont want that to pop up
[06:27] <Gnea> backslash7: hrm... sure, try it
[06:27] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: ok understood
[06:27] <backslash7>   xchat: Depends: libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.8) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[06:27] <airtonix> Rezagrats, do you know if devede is made using python or not?
[06:27] <Rezagrats> Srle, it's like few beeps from the speakers... but slurred-like.
[06:27] <backslash7> => So I try to install libperl5.8
[06:27] <FPtje> Does anyone know how to disable that error?
[06:27] <FPtje> or password question
[06:27] <backslash7> Gnea: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   libperl5.8: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.8-12) but 5.10.0-15 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[06:28] <Gnea> backslash7: okay.. dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep libperl
[06:28] <Rezagrats> Sorry airtonix, idk. i never really dug to see.
[06:28] <Srle> Rezagrats - ok, just asking for the record not able to help you, thou
[06:28] <DrDabbles> What GUI backup programs do people use around here?
[06:28] <tarelerulz> Have any of you had problems with none-free flash player ?  I have problems with it all the time.  running up my cpu
[06:28] <backslash7> Gnea: libperl5.10 is installed
[06:28] <Flannel> !backup | DrDabbles
[06:28] <geremy> does anybody know if there is an equivalent to zenity for e17?
[06:29] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> then we can work one step at a time to create a router out of your ubuntu.. best way is to make a backup of files you are modifying to easily go back n forth
[06:29] <steven__> hey, I need to reformat a jump drive.
[06:29] <steven__> Can anyone help me out?
[06:29] <Gnea> backslash7: can you remove it?
[06:29] <FPtje> Theres noone online on the dutch channel
[06:29] <backslash7> This AWESOMELY SUCKS!
[06:29] <backslash7> ffs
[06:29] <FPtje> prolly cos its still early in the morning
[06:29] <amenado> steven__--> use fdisk
[06:29] <Gnea> backslash7: calm down - this can be fixed without reinstalling :)
[06:29] <FPtje> so how do I disable this?
[06:29] <Srle> !Wireless | Intel
[06:29] <Srle> !Wireless | Atheros
[06:30] <backslash7> Gnea: I removed 5.10 installing 5.8 => error 5.10 is going to b einstalled
[06:30] <DrDabbles> Flannel, I'm not asking how to back up my system. I'm well aware of that. I'm polling people to see what they personally use. I figure I would use this avenue versus popcon, as this is typically a more connected group.
[06:30] <geremy> DrDabbles: rdiff-backup
[06:30] <kc8pxy> if i dd if=/dev/mypartition of=/home/me/mybackup , can i mount -o loop -t fstype /home/me/mybackup /mnt ??
[06:30] <backslash7> Gnea: lol, listen
[06:30] <amenado> DrDabbles--> this is not a survey room..so you may not get much responses
[06:30] <Gnea> backslash7: okay... could you please pastebin the whole output:  sudo apt-get remove libperl | pastebinit
[06:30] <Srle> DrDabbles - i just use dd to image whole partition
[06:30] <backslash7> Gnea: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 900 to remove and 0 not upgraded. After this operation, 2972MB disk space will be freed. You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'  ?]
[06:30] <backslash7> 3 GB stuff
[06:30] <backslash7> perl-base
[06:31] <Gnea> i see.
[06:31] <legend2440> DrDabbles: partimage
[06:31] <FPtje> Guys please help me
[06:31] <xjohnthomasx> FuDGe2, still doestn work
[06:31] <backslash7> Gnea: Couldn't find
[06:31] <Gnea> !patience | FPtje
[06:31] <xjohnthomasx> Agent_bob, i really need help!
[06:31] <backslash7> I already removed it as I said
[06:31] <`r0ot> i try that rarp -i eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>  00:30:4f:34:95:e4 and got bad -i :s
[06:31] <kc8pxy> FPtje: i just walked in. what's the issue?
[06:31] <xjohnthomasx> Agent_bob,  hi there, i have a very difficult problem -- gnome doesn't seem to store my wireless password settings, and it thus keeps me from being able to connect to any encrypted/secured wireless network.. i can connect to my network fine when it's unsecured, and my laptop which is running ubuntu 7.10 can connect to my wireless network  fine even when it's secured, but this desktop with 8.04 ubuntu just won't!! please help!!??
[06:32] <FPtje> kc8pxy: : The program 'nm-applet' wants access to the standard keyring(?) but it is closed
[06:32] <Gnea> backslash7: okay - but libperl 5.10 is still installed, and it says it's going to take down the whole system if you do uninstall it, because it's going to take out perl-base, correct?
[06:32] <FPtje> I translated it from dutch
[06:32] <Agent_bob> can anyone tell me how to do this in /etc/network/interfaces  ???   "ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> promisc up "
[06:32] <FuDGe2> xjohnthomasx: hmm? :(
[06:32] <xjohnthomasx> kc8pxy, i could be having a very similar issue, possibly..
[06:32] <chaddy> Agent_bob: man interfaces
[06:32] <backslash7> Gnea: No, I remove libperl5.8. I tried to remove perl-base and it said it would remove 3 gb of stuff
[06:32] <backslash7> hold on
[06:32] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> compare the /etc/network/interfaces file of 7.10 and 8.04 they ought to be the same
[06:33] <chaddy> Agent_bob: it's fairly easy if you can do ifconfig
[06:33] <xjohnthomasx> they are basically
[06:33] <backslash7> Gnea: No "libperl*" installed anymore
[06:33] <Agent_bob> xjohnthomasx sorry. i have no wifi so totally ignorant there.
[06:33] <Gnea> backslash7: okay - sudo apt-get clean
[06:33] <kc8pxy> FPtje: i don't mess with keyrings unless there is no way to avoid it.
[06:33] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, they are basically..
[06:33] <`r0ot> and with arp i got SIOCSARP: Operation not permitted :s
[06:33] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> basically what?
[06:33] <FPtje> I get it every time I start up
[06:33] <Gnea> backslash7: time for a clean slate :)
[06:33] <backslash7> Gnea: Done :P
[06:33] <FPtje> I have to enter my password every time
[06:34] <Agent_bob> chaddy  sounds like a real good advice to a newbE
[06:34] <DrDabbles> legend2440, srle, geremy Why do you personally use full imaging systems versus a file-based backup?
[06:34] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, the same
[06:34] <Gnea> backslash7: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep perl-base
[06:34]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: <work>
[06:34] <backslash7> Gnea: You think we'll be able to get this shit done?
[06:34] <Gnea> backslash7: i've recovered from worse ;)
[06:34] <Srle> for file based backups, I use tar to archive stuff and burn it on disks :)
[06:34] <chaddy> Agent_bob: I normally wouldn't point people to man pages, but that one is fairly straightforward if you compare it to your existing interfaces file
[06:34] <backslash7> Gnea: ii  perl-base                                  5.10.0-15                                            minimal Perl system
[06:35] <airtonix> Rezagrats, i spose you could just leave devede open and hiberante with : echo 'pmi action suspend' | at now + <insert-estimated-timeframe-here> minutes
[06:35] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> including the passwd for your AP ?
[06:35] <`r0ot> any help  plz ?
[06:35] <backslash7> Gnea: Awight :P I go get myself a cup of tea.... k? I'll be back in 2-3 minutes... Please stay with me!
[06:35] <airtonix> Rezagrats, hibernate/suspend
[06:35] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, i dont set the password in that file
[06:35] <Gnea> backslash7: okay -  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[06:35] <Gnea> backslash7: okay :)
[06:35] <backslash7> Gnea: I can bring you one too if you want :P
[06:35] <Agent_bob> chaddy heh.  but promisc goes where ?
[06:35] <backslash7> Gnea: okay
[06:35] <Gnea> backslash7: lol appreciated
[06:35] <DrDabbles> Srle I'm the same way, but I've got some vacation time this week, and I'd like to dedicate some time to development of a good backup utility that is possibly installed by default.
[06:36] <backslash7> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f6665fd74 ;)
[06:36] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> well thats where they should go for auto connection to encrypted ap
[06:36] <backslash7> brb
[06:36] <Agent_bob> chaddy it's not even mentioned in the man page
[06:36] <Srle> DrDabbles - ok, then search for options not covered by other tools
[06:36] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, where is networkmanager storing them then, as it has in the past? it worked the other day.. nothing has really changed in between..
[06:36] <amenado> DrDabbles--> have you looked at fedora's  Amanda? that seems an enterprise level backup system
[06:37] <chaddy> Agent_bob: you had to look first to be sure ;-P
[06:37] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> same /etc/network/interfaces file as always
[06:37] <chaddy> I'll have a poke
[06:37] <Srle> DrDabbles - make ur program able to backup partitions and files, and make a easy frontend
[06:37] <Gnea> backslash7: okay, let me know when you get back.. we need to have a little chat :)
[06:37] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, false.. it does not store them there..
[06:37] <DrDabbles> Srle Well, one thing I'm thinking of is the ability to remind users through a panel applet (which can be removed for users that do things manually)
[06:37] <airtonix> Rezagrats, another article here about cli hibernate/suspend : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329902
[06:37] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> you can store them there, please man interfaces and you will see the sample
[06:38] <legend2440> DrDabbles: i use partimage i guess because i was used to using driveimage in windows. i wish partimage had a way to restore individual files like driveimage could
[06:38] <DrDabbles> amenado I've used Amanda in the past. It's good.
[06:38] <geremy> DrDabbles: if you're a programmer, just set an inotify watch to sync via rdiff-backup, and use zenity for reminders
[06:38] <Srle> DrDabbles - to remind them to do backup on some set basis?
[06:38] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: I can live with that
[06:38] <Agent_bob> chaddy no i had to re-look incase i missed something that was so simular that i should have noticed it.
[06:38] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, i know you can, but that's not where networkmanager is storing them! where is network manager storing them, and why would it work the other day, but not today? why won't it work with the nm-applet in the top right of the screen?
[06:38] <Srle> DrDabbles - you could do something like TimeMachine on MacOS - kinda copy it :)
[06:39] <amenado> DrDabbles--> right, so you want to recreate Amanda? or take out some of its features perhaps?
[06:39] <DrDabbles> Srle Exactly. With more users coming over from Windows, I think it's important for me to remind my mom to back up her digital photos. :-)
[06:39] <sluimers> Where should I go for hardware related questions?
[06:39] <backslash7> Gnea: Back in black.
[06:39] <Nallep> how can I get /dev/sdd8 (on a removable usb drive) to always mount on /home/user/backup/  ?
[06:39] <amenado> xjohnthomasx--> i have not dig into keyring manager, perhaps it has hooks to it -- stores in some kind of temp file
[06:40] <sluimers> Which channel deals with hardware related questions?
[06:40] <chaddy> Agent_bob: is it for bridging?
[06:40] <geremy> DrDabbles: I wrote a solution to this in response to a recent askSlashdot entry. If you want to make a feature request I'm listening
[06:40] <DrDabbles> geremy This would be geared toward new users that would like a GUI.
[06:40] <Srle> DrDabbles - the applet could be a part of a program (an option) and offered by default to be set on certain days or something
[06:40] <legend2440> sluimers: ##hardware
[06:40] <Agent_bob> chaddy yes
[06:40] <geremy> DrDabbles: that's the goal.
[06:41] <Srle> DrDabbles - u sure won't want to miss usual stuff - options to backup files, folders, and whole file-systems
[06:42] <Gnea> backslash7: alright - i need to know about this perl 5.10 that you've somehow gotten to install on the system. did you install it via apt or as a downloaded package?
[06:42] <Srle> DrDabbles - and as a backend for all of this, use already good programs like dd, tar... etc.
[06:42] <chaddy> Agent_bob: I think you need this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man5/bridge-utils-interfaces.html
[06:42] <geremy> DrDabbles: are you interested in making some feature requests, or are you wanting to build your own?
[06:42] <backslash7> Gnea: I sure haven't done anything with perl, as far as I can tell.
[06:42] <chaddy> seems to be an extension of sorts for interfaces
[06:42] <backslash7> Gnea: Perl should be all default
[06:43] <Gnea> backslash7: okay - well, i'm running hardy on a few systems, and on each of them, perl 5.8 is what's current.  5.10 is simply not there.
[06:43] <Agent_bob> chaddy looking
[06:43] <backslash7> Gnea: Okay :O
[06:43] <carrebeanpirates> amenado:thats also the reason I put a # before I integrade these modifications in the files I showed you in the pastebin
[06:43] <backslash7> Gnea: That's weird....
[06:43] <DrDabbles> Srle Well, the good thing with Linux is that you don't typically need disk images. The installer can usually take a list of packages to be installed, which could be made at backup time, and .deb files usually ( though not always) contain MD5's of the files they install, so with debsums you can easily find modified config files and whatnot, so restoring a system from bare metal isn't too too hard
[06:43] <supertanker> airtonix: I've tried Nano for my main work
[06:43] <supertanker> I just remember the old MS WOrks for DOS and wonder if there's anything like it for Linux
[06:43] <backslash7> Gnea: perl.org => current release: 5.10.0
[06:43] <nycity> hello Noob here
[06:44] <xjohnthomasx> amenado, there are no examples in man interfaces... thanks tho..
[06:44] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> good idea, but sometimes having them on same file gets a bit confusing, i suggest a separate file for test and production
[06:44] <chaddy> Agent_bob: if it's not the right thing: sorry for wasting your time ;)
[06:44] <xjohnthomasx> can anyone else help?  hi there, i have a very difficult problem -- gnome doesn't seem to store my wireless password settings, and it thus keeps me from being able to connect to any encrypted/secured wireless network.. i can connect to my network fine when it's unsecured, and my laptop which is running ubuntu 7.10 can connect to my wireless network  fine even when it's secured, but this desktop with 8.04 ubuntu just won't!! please an
[06:44] <xjohnthomasx> yone help!!!
[06:44] <Gnea> backslash7: this tells me that you installed 5.10 explicitly by some other means, either by finding a .deb file and installing it via firefox or something simliar, or starting to upgrade to intrepid and then cancelling it, or something else i don't know
[06:44] <DrDabbles> geremy I'd love to join in on a project. But, because I'm new to python, it would take a while to ramp up. I have selfish goals here too. :-)
[06:44] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: ok
[06:44] <geremy> DrDabbles: let me know what you're thinking -<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:44] <backslash7> Gnea: Well, I'm really sure I didn't touch perl. I touched gnome* and *gtk* stuff but nothing perl
[06:44] <Agent_bob> chaddy looks like what i was missing. i'll give it a go.  ty.
[06:44] <airtonix> supertanker, thats generally what i use in the cli too...but i find the cli abit unweildly for long term file editing...
[06:45] <backslash7> Gnea: So I need  to get rid of that perl 5.10 right?
[06:45] <Gnea> backslash7: well, it's at where it's at now... can you install libperl5.10?
[06:45] <nycity> I am trying to learn how to partition my hd. I am using VIsta. Can someone assist me?
[06:45] <airtonix> supertanker, if you still have that lying around you could run it in dosbox maybe ?
[06:45] <supertanker> airtonix: I have a server that's running dialup wit no GI
[06:45] <Gnea> backslash7: negative, perl-base is 5.10 and that's tightly integrated into the base system
[06:45] <DrDabbles> geremy what are you developing it in?
[06:45] <backslash7> Gnea: Package libperl5.10 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package libperl5.10 has no installation candidate
[06:45] <Agent_bob> chaddy i learned how to do this stuff manually some time ago and been using a script i wrote so it won't hurt anything to experiment.  :)
[06:46] <airtonix> supertanker, ah ok
[06:46] <Gnea> backslash7: apt-cache search libperl | pastebinit
[06:46] <lufthanza_> hi
[06:46] <Srle> DrDabbles - hmmm - but what if user scattered his custom files all around the file-tree, so it is not only the .deb and other installation files you have to think of
[06:46] <airtonix> supertanker, have you looked through sourceforge & gnomefiles? maybe something there takes your fancy?
[06:46] <geremy> DrDabbles: python
[06:46] <backslash7> Gnea: no arguments :S
[06:46] <xjohnthomasx> anyone???
[06:46] <lufthanza_> how do I remount my root fs read-only?
[06:47] <aoeu> can anyone tell me how one goes about autoloading modules when the device is inserted or system boots?
[06:47] <backslash7> Gnea: but libperl5.8 is the only libperlV.V
[06:47] <Gnea> lufthanza_: mount -n -o remount,ro /
[06:47] <geremy> aoeu: /etc/modules
[06:47] <DrDabbles> Srle There are certainly corner cases that are difficult, but a user savvy enough to create custom configuration files in custom places should also be savvy enough to select that location for backup as well.
[06:47] <lufthanza_> Gnea: thanks
[06:48] <lufthanza_> Gnea: what's the -n for?
[06:48] <Gnea> backslash7: yeah - that's the thing, it shoudln't be at 5.10
[06:48] <aoeu> geremy: thanks a million
[06:48] <Gnea> lufthanza_: man mount  will explain it all
[06:48] <backslash7> wtf... That's really weird
[06:48] <geremy> aoeu: np
[06:48] <airtonix> geremy, lol can you make sure you put a "exit program automatically when all tasks have completed sucsesscully" please ? so those of use who wish to run it can then use hibernate cli commands after it exits
[06:48] <Gnea> backslash7: yeah... please try to cut down on the swearing bits... it's a family channel :)
[06:48] <Flannel> airtonix: command1 && command2
[06:48] <Flannel> airtonix: That'll run command2 only if command1 exits successfully
[06:48] <FuDGe2> xjohnthomasx: what happened when you used wicd?
[06:48] <airtonix> Flannel, some programs do not quit unless the user is there to interact with the program
[06:48] <lufthanza_> i see
[06:49] <backslash7> Gnea: Sorry :P wt* is just a reflex xD
[06:49] <Srle> DrDabbles - yeah the thing is if you don't take that corner cases, someone is going to be very mad missing his file on some obscure location :))
[06:49] <lufthanza_> thanks, bye
[06:49] <xjohnthomasx> FuDGe2, didnt work.. same thing really
[06:49] <geremy> airtonix: I'm not sure what you mean, could you clarify please?
[06:49] <backslash7> Gnea: Package libperl5.10 is not installed, so not removed
[06:49] <airtonix> geremy, i am assuming you are creating a piece of backup software?
[06:49] <backslash7> Gnea: apt-get install libperl5.8 => libperl5.8: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.8-12) but 5.10.0-15 is to be installed
[06:50] <backslash7> Gnea: So my perl-base is at 5.10 ? :O
[06:50] <Gnea> backslash7: at this point, i can see only 2 options: a) reinstall hardy. b) attempt to upgrade to intrepid ibex (which is due out as the next stable anyday now)
[06:50] <Nallep> When I plug in my usb drive, how can I always have /dev/sdd8 mount on /home/user/backup/ ?
[06:50] <FuDGe2> xjohnthomasx: so the wicd manager doesn't save your password either
[06:50] <geremy> airtonix: yes
[06:50] <DrDabbles> Srle I think we've all been that user from time to time.
[06:50] <xjohnthomasx> FuDGe2, it doesnt let me connect to the secured wireless network
[06:50] <Gnea> backslash7: yes. it is possible that intrepid is running 5.10 and won't give you nearly as much grief about it
[06:51] <airtonix> geremy, it would be good if the program would quit when its finished doing backups
[06:51] <backslash7> Gnea: Hmm.... So I'd like to try intrepid first if possible
[06:51] <Kartagis> how do I tell by looking at ps aux whether Synaptics is performing operations?
[06:51] <airtonix> geremy, but ofcourse this would be an option that you would provide in program -> preferences
[06:51] <backslash7> In the worst case I'll reinstall, backing up and stuff like that
[06:51] <Gnea> backslash7: i would make sure /home is safe first
[06:51] <Reaverbot> Hello
[06:51] <Agent_bob> Kartagis use top ?
[06:51] <backslash7> Hmmm
[06:51] <Reaverbot> I am new in Linux system
[06:51] <r2s1> link for the fix on Samsung SCX-4200 is now gone.. anyone knows how can I fix the SCX-4300's libmfp.so.1.0.1 .. scanner not working well.
[06:51] <mrpockets> Where are the icon files for Avant Window manager kept?
[06:51] <FuDGe2> xjohnthomasx: what encryption are you running?
[06:51] <backslash7> Gnea: How do I resize my root partition the most comfortable way ?
[06:52] <Agent_bob> Kartagis then if it's active it moves near the top to top to top off the top output.
[06:52] <airtonix> geremy, i mean that is if your program is the type to leave a gui window open while it does its job
[06:52] <xjohnthomasx> FuDGe2, either wep or wpa.. same difference..
[06:52] <Kartagis> Agent_bob, thanks
[06:52] <Agent_bob> shoot  one of those 'to's was an 'of' /
[06:52] <airtonix> geremy, just athought, i guess its not nessecary if its a daemon
[06:52] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[06:52] <geremy> airtonix: right now the goal is that it operates silently when the difference between the archived version and the current copy reaches a certain degree of importance
[06:53] <Gnea> backslash7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning  has a few methods
[06:53] <maddy> i have installed tomcat5.5 on ubuntu-8.04 hardy. it is running fine. the page http://localhost:8080/ is also responding. i also installed hudson on ubuntu, but when im trying to open the URL http://server-name/huson/ is not responding. can one help me??
[06:53] <geremy> airtonix: I'm taking suggestions though
[06:53] <airtonix> geremy, nice one. i assumed that it would operate like a generic gui app...:)
[06:53] <xjohnthomasx> is there a ubuntu wireless channel anywhere?????
[06:53] <backslash7> Gnea: Is gparted a good way?
[06:53] <Gnea> backslash7: yes, preferably from livecd
[06:54] <Gnea> you can't resize what you have mounted
[06:54] <supertanker> Okay, I know this is probably going to start a holy war, but would emacs or vim be better for a newbie to CLI?
[06:54] <backslash7> Gnea: Yeh, sure
[06:54] <backslash7> Gnea: Okay.... Guess I'll do a reinstall then anyway.....
[06:54] <Gnea> supertanker: neither: nano
[06:54] <kelvin911> when i type lpr example.ps in terminal i got this error: lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[06:54] <kelvin911> how to fix it?
[06:54] <backslash7> Gnea: Thank you so much for your time, really appreciate it!
[06:54] <DrDabbles> backslash gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:54] <Nallep> supertanker: vim
[06:54] <Gnea> backslash7: good luck :)
[06:54] <airtonix> supertanker, yeah i find both quite intimidating
[06:54] <backslash7> DrDabbles: I got already one, thanks anyway
[06:55] <backslash7> Gnea: :D
[06:55] <backslash7> G'bye
[06:55] <Oxygenfad> Hey guys. I burned a CD in ubuntu. I am trying to copy thw files onto a windows machine. All is well but the names are bonkers. How do I get the real names back ?
[06:55] <supertanker> All right, thanks, I'll try weither VIM or NANO
[06:55] <supertanker> Proably NANO
[06:55] <xjohnthomasx> is there a wireless channel for ubuntu on this irc?????
[06:56] <Gnea> !wireless | xjohnthomasx
[06:56] <geremy> airtonix: the original request came from an askSlashdot posting, and their request was that it sync all of their family photos, so I felt that silent would be best. A gui is an option, although I will be the first to admit my UIs usually look like they escaped from Windows 95
[06:56] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, i've read that. i dindt see an irc.. just an ndiswrapper channel...?
[06:56] <amenado> Oxygenfad--> you should burn with rockridge format  -R and -J options i believe
[06:56] <airtonix> geremy, how does it differ from unison?
[06:56] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: you can ask your wifi questions in here.
[06:56] <xjohnthomasx> i have!!! no one answers!@!!!
[06:56] <xjohnthomasx>  hi there, i have a very difficult problem -- gnome doesn't seem to store my wireless password settings, and it thus keeps me from being able to connect to any encrypted/secured wireless network.. i can connect to my network fine when it's unsecured, and my laptop which is running ubuntu 7.10 can connect to my wireless network  fine even when it's secured, but this desktop with 8.04 ubuntu just won't!! please anyone help!!!
[06:57] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, there
[06:57] <Oxygenfad> xjohnthomasx : The damage has been done. The cd has already been burnt. How do I convert ?
[06:57] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: then you'll have to be patient
[06:57] <mrpockets> yo
[06:57] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, i dont think anyone was even really reading mine..
[06:57] <mrpockets> so where are the toolbar icons kept?
[06:57] <Srle> Oxygenfad - cannot convert
[06:57] <Oxygenfad> crud
[06:57] <Srle> Oxygenfad - it's already burned
[06:57] <mrpockets> like if i wanted to change the icon for Firefox on the tool bar when its opened?
[06:57] <DrDabbles> Oxygenfad You will need to copy the files on Linux or MacOS, and create a new CD
[06:58] <Srle> Oxygenfad - burn another with options told above
[06:58] <Oxygenfad> I made a VM on this comp with ubuntu. But now Im running into samba problems
[06:58] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: saying things like "please help!" or "help!!" only makes people NOT want to help so much - of course, sometimes people are already in the middle of something else, so asking again every 5 mins or so tends to work better than repeating all the time.
[06:58] <Oxygenfad> anythnks guys
[06:58] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/1226589  are the modifications I have so far and did put them in new files
[06:58] <moveax1> hi
[06:58] <geremy> airtonix: unison doesn't do multipoint to point sync, and is not importance-sensitive; this uses a bounding algorithm to determine whether the changes that have occurred in the directories being watched are important enough to merge right this very second
[06:58] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: has it not been storing passwords from the time you installed or did it just stop working one day?
[06:58] <moveax1> are there any apt sources for open office 3?
[06:58] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, i have asked every five minutes or so.. and i'm sorry i ask for help -- but quite frankly, that's what this forum is for.. so why should i not express the frustration some? i've been trying to solve this problem for days now..
[06:58] <geremy> airtonix: that's about it
[06:59] <xjohnthomasx> it stopped working two days ago
[06:59] <airtonix> geremy, :)
[06:59] <geremy> moveax1:  its on the openoffice page
[06:59] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, it was working fine with the original installation
[06:59] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: was that gutsy?
[06:59] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, though i hadn't really changed much of anything about the wireless settings..
[06:59] <xjohnthomasx> no, it was a fresh install, clean hd, and hardy
[06:59] <moveax1> geremy, but no sources.list entry. only the pakages
[06:59] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: have you tried making a new user account and see if it saves the passwords in that one or not?
[07:00] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, laptop has 7.10 on it, and that works fine.. this one, the desktop, is completely new and fresh, and has 8.04..
[07:00] <geremy> moveax1: correct
[07:00] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, i will go do that right now
[07:00] <moveax1> geremy, do you know how long it will take to find it in the backports?
[07:01] <`r0ot> any one have dell 1525 laptop ?
[07:01] <geremy> moveax1: no idea, honestly
[07:01] <wartalker> i install the dirver ipwraw, so when reboot, it is the default. how i can change the iwl3945 to default
[07:01] <Agent_bob> chaddy you still around ?
[07:01] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> on dhcp server -- you only need to serve on eth1
[07:01] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, same thing happens.....
[07:02] <`r0ot> i can make my web cam work any one know how i can make it work ?
[07:02] <chaddy> Agent_bob: yeah
[07:02] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: okay - and this is on the laptop?
[07:02] <Agent_bob> chaddy yes,  that was what i wanted.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/7642   thanks.
[07:02] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, no, desktkop. 8.04. the laptop runs 7.10 and is fine.
[07:02] <dhng> how do I restore my x server settings after it's borked when I upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu?
[07:02] <chaddy> Agent_bob: glad it worked, I was just whistling dixie ;)
[07:03] <geremy> dhng: did you back it up?
[07:03] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> on interfaces file,  wrong entries for lines 25-27, eth0 is facing the ISP, those subnet you referred to are wrong, not 192.x.x.x
[07:03] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: ugh, i'm not sure... someone else might know
[07:03] <dhng> geremy: I'm not sure, I just ran the upgrade program
[07:03] <geremy> dhng: did you have a lot of custom configurations?
[07:03] <Agent_bob> chaddy i knew that there was a way to do it,  just couldn't find anything pretenant in the doc0s      and google hates me.   heh.
[07:03] <dhng> geremy: I think it's backed up, I'm just not sure where
[07:03] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, whom can you recommend in here that's more expert and can poissibly??? : (
[07:03] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: sorry :(
[07:03] <dhng> geremy: I don't think so
[07:04] <geremy> dhng: if you can find it, that would be best, else, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
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[07:04] <mzuverink> hhhhhhhhhhhhh                                                                                I need some advice, I would like to purchase a new PCIE vid card one that has 512 ram of its own, do not care the manufactuturer, just stability and stunning performance?
[07:04] <mzuverink>
[07:04] <Gnea> xjohnthomasx: no one specific... but like i said, dropping the "please help me!" bit will get you a better response, overall
[07:04] <chaddy> Agent_bob: feel free to call again if you are short that last little bit of google-fu
[07:04] <dhng> geremy: where is the config file located?
[07:04] <airtonix> mzuverink, i would think about buying a new keyboard first
[07:04] <maddy>  i have installed tomcat5.5 on ubuntu-8.04 hardy. it is running fine. the page http://localhost:8080/ is also responding. i also installed hudson on ubuntu, but when im trying to open the URL http://server-name/huson/ is not responding. can one help me??
[07:04] <Srle> mzuvernik 8800GTX shold do
[07:04] <Srle> :)
[07:04] <geremy> dhng: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <Agent_bob> chaddy heh.   10-4
[07:05] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: what do I need to put instead?
[07:05] <xjohnthomasx>  hi there, i have a very difficult problem -- gnome doesn't seem to store my wireless password settings, and it thus keeps me from being able to connect to any encrypted/secured wireless network.. i can connect to my network fine when it's unsecured, and my laptop which is running ubuntu 7.10 can connect to my wireless network  fine even when it's secured, but this desktop with 8.04 ubuntu just won't!! it was working after the initia
[07:05] <xjohnthomasx> l install, but stopped two days ago.... ??????
[07:05] <airtonix> mzuverink, but i also second Srle's advice
[07:06] <Srle> i just run glx gears on my 8800gtx/768 bm and its about 15000 with comiz enabled
[07:06] <dhng> geremy: so do I just rename one of my backup files to xorg.conf?
[07:06] <losher> xjohnthomasx: did you change something else two days ago?
[07:06] <geremy> dhng: then restart the x server, yup
[07:07] <mzuverink> airtonix, that was my fault, I fell asleep, pain meds, please eccept my humbler apology and overlok my fopa and answer the question if you have an opinion, i will rewrite it if you wish.
[07:07] <airtonix> mzuverink, the nvidia 8800gt series are good
[07:07] <xjohnthomasx> Gnea, and in factttttttttttttttttttt, you want to know something strange?? i clicked to connect to the new user's secured wireless network, and it just seemed to be stalling, but when i went back into the old user's account, what i found was the "wireless key" login popup had popped up there instead of the new user's account!!!! wtf??
[07:07] <mzuverink> airtonix, that is what I heard
[07:08] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> on eth0 -- network <IP_ADDRESS> , broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>,  gateway you should have copied that from the router settings
[07:08] <airtonix> mzuverink, i also have a coreduo e6550 2.3ghz... combined they run beautifully...compiz is great...wow under wine ie great
[07:08] <xjohnthomasx> losher, i tried installing mythtv. it didnt work. i had to remove it.. also, when i login, i keep getting the error home/.dmrc must have user's permissions and home folder..... so i did sudo chown 644 file and sudo chown 700 the folder.. and that was supposed to fix it, but it keeps coming back???
[07:09] <geremy> airtonix: my friend is a WOW addict, framerate went up 10 FPS under wine
[07:09] <blankthemuffin> Wondering if there is a command to dump the systems environment variables?
[07:09] <mzuverink> airtonix, I got hit by a car on my bike doing my job as a currier, broke my femur and I had to have a wrist fused
[07:09] <supertanker> Is there any reason I should NOT run Samba and NFS at the same time on the same directory?
[07:09] <supertanker> [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~Assuming I'm hte only one using it?
[07:09] <B3z3rk3r> hey all
[07:09] <supertanker> ....
[07:09] <supertanker> What is it with keyboards tonight?!
[07:09] <mzuverink> airtonix, Oxycontin is hard to stay awake on if you are not used to opiates
[07:09] <geremy> supertanker: besides the fact that neither is terribly secure?
[07:09] <airtonix> mzuverink, considering its a form of morphine
[07:09] <supertanker> geremy, I don't care much about this data
[07:10] <supertanker> It's only on my local network
[07:10] <airtonix> mzuverink, getting offtopic though...
[07:10] <Agent_bob> thats odd,  using that interfaces configuration i get a 74 second timeout in the boot process, using a script it's almost instant.   heh.  i guess i'll keep using my script for now.   but at least i learned how to get there both ways.
[07:10] <geremy> supertanker: its the whole "gaining access to raw disk sockets" I worry about
[07:10] <supertanker> I'm not transferring Butch's Top Secret Family Recipie or anything, I just want to move music, documents, movies, etc, off my main computer.
[07:10] <supertanker> geremy: What?
[07:10] <mzuverink> airtonix, exactly, so I spend day and night the last week falling asleep while typing, it annoying
[07:10] <supertanker> Asuume I'm the only person in the entire neighbhorhood that knows wtf Linux is, geremy
[07:11] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: question concerning the network since the IP adress from my ISP is changing from time to time don't I get into trouble when putting a fixed IP there?
[07:11] <airtonix> mzuverink, you might like espeak : dmesg | tail | espeak
[07:11] <supertanker> And that this computer isn't connected to the internet
[07:11] <geremy> supertanker: <shrugs> hey, *I* don't have to fix it
[07:11] <airtonix> mzuverink, for those times when keeping your eyes open is too much
[07:11] <supertanker> Haha
[07:11] <mzuverink> airtonix, not off topic, you said consider a keyboard, i answered your question as it pertained to my keyboard...
[07:11] <xjohnthomasx> losher, you see my reply? ?
[07:11] <supertanker> So seriously, how else should I share my files, geremy? (On my local network)
[07:11] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> wait a minute, you said static eh? changing from time to time is dynamic, get your info straight, or else i'll give you wrong advise
[07:11] <Cosmo-san> heyo.  my webcam seems way too zoomed on Ubuntu.  On Windows it's fine, but here I can't seem to adjust the zoom.  any suggestions?
[07:11] <geremy> supertanker: ssh mounts
[07:12] <supertanker> ...SSH mounts?
[07:12] <mzuverink> airtonix, thank you
[07:12] <apathadeus> has anyone here ever played around with the files in /dev/?
[07:12]  * supertanker googles
[07:12] <airtonix> mzuverink, it was a jibjab at your huge stream of characters...now i know its just you applying face to keyboard....nevermind im just being silly
[07:12] <geremy> apathadeus: yup
[07:12] <losher> xjohnthomasx: my .dmrc is u=rw only (I don't run gnome though). Consider deinstalling/reinstalling the wireless stuff?
[07:12] <apathadeus> geremy, what did you do? :D
[07:12] <Agent_bob> apathadeus yep
[07:12] <xjohnthomasx> losher, did that
[07:12] <airtonix> mzuverink, wow joke : faceroll did not produce win!
[07:12] <geremy> apathadeus: umm everything involving devices ever?
[07:13] <amenado> supertanker--> look for  sshfs
[07:13] <apathadeus> i see
[07:13] <mzuverink> airtonix, exactly
[07:13] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: the modem from my ISP is changing IP's on regular bases so the server should be able to pick this up to right?
[07:13] <losher> xjohnthomasx: did what, exactly?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> apathadeus they are mostly device nodes and some symlinks to device nodes.
[07:13] <xjohnthomasx> losher, reinstalled wireless stuff
[07:13] <mzuverink> , key marks on forhead daily
[07:13] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> only if yo set the eth0 to dynamic
[07:13] <dhng> is there plans to make changing x config more user-friendly?
[07:13] <PoisonArrow> how can I kill the Network Manager process?
[07:13] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> only if yo set the eth0 to dynamic-- rather  as dhcp client
[07:13] <supertanker> Oh, geremy, also asume I need a Windows computer to access my data >_>
[07:13] <dhng> geremy: thanks, x is fixed
[07:14] <yell0w> PoisonArrow: ps -faux
[07:14] <supertanker> Much as I dislike using Windows
[07:14] <amenado> PoisonArrow--> why would you want to?
[07:14] <apathadeus> how come when i play a song, and capture the data from /dev/audio, and pipe it back again, it won't play?
[07:14] <yell0w> PoisonArrow: ps -faux | grep Network , find pid, kill them
[07:14] <PoisonArrow> yell0w: thanks
[07:14] <geremy> supertanker: putty
[07:14] <PoisonArrow> amenado: sometimes it hangs while connecting and freezes my comp
[07:14] <Agent_bob> apathadeus what can you do with a device node ???    access it. change it's perms and ownership, delete it, write to it, rename/move it...  that's about it.
[07:14] <geremy> dhng: great, glad to help
[07:14] <waan> PoisonArrow: ps ax | grep NetworkManager
[07:14] <losher> xjohnthomasx: sorry, you've exhausted the little I know about it. Some people seem to report wicd works for them when the default stuff fails
[07:15] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: ok sorry for the confusion so the eth0 should change in iface eth0 dynamic and skip everything that's comming below or am I wrong here
[07:15] <unlink> what's a good video card for dual-head on ubuntu?
[07:15] <amenado> PoisonArrow--> umm, that i have experienced, ubuntu seems to be very sensitive to i/o errors and freezes
[07:15] <xjohnthomasx> losher, can you recommend any ubuntu super genius in here who might be able to help??
[07:15] <PoisonArrow> amenado: ya
[07:15] <PoisonArrow> waan: thanks
[07:15] <mrpockets> where does Ubuntu store the current Wallpaper fiule?
[07:15] <waan> PoisonArrow: no probs, just find the PID's and kill them
[07:15] <apathadeus> why cat /dev/audio > file, then cat file > /dev/audio, won't play the same thing?
[07:16] <losher> xjohnthomasx: sorry, I'm relatively new here myself. irc is pretty hit & miss...
[07:16] <PoisonArrow> waan: with just   " kill pid 5105"
[07:16] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> think of your ubuntu as a host using dhcp, so eth0 will be set as dhcp
[07:16] <waan> PoisonArrow: kill 5105, 501x....
[07:16] <waan> PoisonArrow: without the ,
[07:16] <apathadeus> anyone?
[07:16] <PoisonArrow> waan: thanks OK :P
[07:16] <dhng> geremy: it was premature...x loads but gnome doesn't, so I'm stuck with  my desktop background and nothing else
[07:17] <losher> xjohnthomasx: since it's not working, you don't have much to lose by trying wicd. Sounds like if all else fails you're going to have to reinstall from scratch in the end anyway...
[07:17] <unlink> i want to drive a 1920x1200 display and a 1280x1024 display, and watch 1080p movies... i'm looking for a video card that works well with ubuntu
[07:17] <Agent_bob> apathadeus heh. i made a symlink like this.  ln -s /dev/fd0 ~/floppy_disk.tgz     and access it with "mc"  and "tar" dirrectly.   i have some floppy disks that have tarballs writen dirrectly to them now.   :)))         and as to the Q cat////  use /dev/dsp and see what happens.
[07:17] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: the line whould be iface eth0 dynamic right ?
[07:18] <snails> hi
[07:18] <snails> lol --->   www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gvw73U_VpU
[07:18] <PoisonArrow> !irc | albert748
[07:18] <apathadeus> yea, i tried the same thing with dsp
[07:18] <losher> xjohnthomasx: on a total tangent, I got mythtv working find on 7.10 after a struggle with mysql. Never tried it on 8.04 tho'
[07:18] <apathadeus> Agent_bob, it won't work with dsp either
[07:18] <losher> xjohnthomasx: find -> fine
[07:18] <geremy> dhng: I'll be honest, I have to get up in 5.5hrs, I'm not going to be alert long enough to fix this- let me phone a friend
[07:18] <Agent_bob> apathadeus does here.   permissions issue ?
[07:19] <apathadeus> not permissions, i just don't get the audio that i captured in the file
[07:19] <amenado> carrebeanpirates--> its iface eth0 dhcp    man interfaces to confirm please, i dont have an ubuntu up right now.. also am off to bed..the partner is giving me the look
[07:19]  * amenado  off to bed.
[07:20] <carrebeanpirates> amenado: ok thanks sweet dreams and give a nice look back at your partner :-) thanks for your help
[07:20] <Reaverbot> Excuse me, I have an integrated webcam, ¿how I can install it?
[07:20] <waan> Does anybody have an xps 1530?
[07:21] <Agent_bob> apathadeus you sure it's not perms ?   ls -l `readlink -f /dev/dsp`
[07:21] <Sindacious> Anyone know how to make ubuntu detect a mybook external hard drive?
[07:21] <apathadeus> Agent_bob, nope, nothing in the terminal is restricting me from piping stuff around
[07:21] <geremy> Sindacious: usb?
[07:21] <chaddy> Sindacious: plug it in then do dmesg|tail, see if it is detected
[07:21] <JayFM> When I run "sudo apt-get install bind9" to install dns, I get an error: "E: Package bind9 has no installation candidate"
[07:22] <geremy> dhng: nothing but message
[07:22] <apathadeus> Agent_bob, when I pipe back the data i captured, i either get garbled crap or silence depending if I use audio or dsp
[07:22] <geremy> dhng: srry
[07:22] <dhng> geremy: thanks anyways
[07:22] <supertanker> So it's not safe to use Samba on a private network with no outside access to the ports SMB uses/no access to anyone outside the LAN ips?
[07:22] <supertanker> I'm the only person on the network who knows how to use computers
[07:22] <bobbin> How do I recover my nick on this server?
[07:22] <Flannel> JayFM: have you updated (sudo apt-get update) since installing?
[07:22] <bobbin> I crashed ages ago and it's still not pinged out...
[07:22] <Flannel> bobbin: /msg nickserv help ghost
[07:22] <bobbin> Thanks
[07:22] <Agent_bob> apathadeus odd.  must have something to do with pulse audio    i'm using alsa here.
[07:22] <dtech> there's a 'low-resolution' warning when I boot ... and a configuration option ... can I run that from the desktop, how?
[07:22] <jlmaque> hello
[07:23] <Sindacious> geremy, fire wire, usb on the mybook is messed up
[07:23] <apathadeus> Agent_bob, i use alsa also
[07:23] <Agent_bob> bobbin   /msg nickserv ghost <pass>
[07:23] <JayFM> Flannel: That might be why. I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to setup a server. Way to be put in the deep end!!!
[07:23] <Agent_bob> bobbin   /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pass>
[07:23] <Sindacious> chaddy, http://pastebin.com/mb298f70
[07:23] <Bobbino> Got it thanks :)
[07:23] <airtonix> supertanker, that would be safe i guess
[07:23] <Flannel> JayFM: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:23] <JayFM> Thanks :)
[07:24] <supertanker> What are the main dangers of SMB?
[07:24] <B3z3rk3r> Daft_Punk, hey man
[07:24] <Flannel> JayFM: That goes over some basics, and then there's also a server section, with server specific stuff.
[07:24] <airtonix> supertanker, even safer if you only allow access to your machine via the smb ports per ip in the lan
[07:24] <Daft_Punk> B3z3rk3r, pm
[07:24] <Serway> hey, does anyone know how to change the color of the CPU-Frequency-applet in Gnome???
[07:24] <Serway> like the text
[07:24] <Serway> thanks
[07:24] <JayFM> Yeah, I was already on there... I just overlooked the update packages :|
[07:24] <zhanx> fun fun whats up with the playdeb mirror not working ne1 know i had to manually set it
[07:24] <Bobbino> Anyone here have any experiences with Songbird? My install randomly crashes the entire OS and I have to hard reboot...
[07:25] <jlmaque> Ubuntu is not free?
[07:25] <wartalker> my wirelesss card have two driver, iwl3945 and ipwraw, when i reboot, the default is ipwraw, how i change the default to iwl3945
[07:25] <Flannel> jlmaque: What gave you that idea?
[07:25] <zhanx> last time it check it was
[07:26] <chaddy> Sindacious: possible solution http://kerneltrap.org/node/2963
[07:26] <jlmaque> Ubunto is not free distribution GNU/Linux
[07:26] <jlmaque> Ubuntu*
[07:26] <airtonix> jlmaque, lol define "free"
[07:26] <airtonix> jlmaque, its free in all aspects btw
[07:26] <chaddy> jlmaque: if you want Free-er try gnewsense
[07:26] <jlmaque> libre
[07:27] <jlmaque> freedom*
[07:27] <EruditeHermit> jlmaque: for the most part it is
[07:27] <jlmaque> I'm using VRMS package
[07:27] <losher> wartalker: google "ubuntu HOWTO: Prevent (blacklist) modules from loading"
[07:27] <zhanx> that is true for everything almost. btw what part of ubuntu do you have to pay for oro cant get the code for
[07:28] <dhng> I just updated to Intrepid but it borked my computer, how do I start the upgrade process over again?
[07:28] <wartalker> losher: but i want change the ipwraw to iwl3945
[07:28] <Flannel> zhanx: Some of the drivers are the most common thing.
[07:29] <airtonix> jlmaque, lol Virtual Richard Stalman Package....is that a joke?
[07:29] <Flannel> airtonix: Nope
[07:29] <zhanx> k, guess i have be getting lucky and not hit one yet on the 4 pcs i have
[07:29] <bullgard4> Clicking in Nautilus on /usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/de/user-guide.xml, Firefox 3 shows the XML source code. How can I display the formatted document?
[07:29] <Sindacious> chaddy, I'm not sure what I'm looking for on that page
[07:29] <losher> wartalker: you do it by blacklisting ipwraw so that it wont load, and then you tell the system to load iwl3945 instead
[07:30] <jlmaque> using:
[07:30] <jlmaque> apt-get install vrms
[07:30] <airtonix> Flannel,  is it like the oss version of Trusted Computing ?
[07:30] <Flannel> airtonix: No
[07:31] <EruditeHermit> jlmaque: I have 7 non free packages on my system according to it. most of those are kernel packages which I don't use any modules from
[07:31] <airtonix> Flannel, ok i see what it is now...audting package
[07:31] <airtonix> auditing*
[07:31] <EruditeHermit> jlmaque: its almost completely libre if you want it to be
[07:31] <wartalker> losher: thanks
[07:31] <EruditeHermit> jlmaque: and you can remove the packages that don't make it fully libre if you want
[07:32] <EruditeHermit> jlmaque: only restricted modules which you don't necessarily have to use and the human and tangerine icon themes are deemed nonfree for me
[07:32] <compu73rg33k> I'm trying to get my scanner to work .I have a Canon MP310, and it worked perfectly with the Canon MP180 drivers in 8.04. I've upgraded to 8.10 already and xsane doesn't autodetect the scanner. I ran sane-find-scanner and I got a result: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9, product=0x1728) at libusb:001:006 but running scanimage -L says No scanners were identified.
[07:32] <chaddy> Sindacious: it's all there, I don't know what more you want, second comment onward
[07:32] <jlmaque> I have already done
[07:33] <Sindacious> chaddy, insmod sbp2 sbp2_max_speed=1 returns "insmod: can't read 'sbp2': No such file or directory
[07:33] <Sindacious> "
[07:33] <chaddy> if you are having bother with it try googling the error you pastebinned, Sindacious; you might find a link that's more appropriate
[07:33] <enzotib> bullgard4, yelp /path/user-guide.xml
[07:35] <losher> compu73rg33k: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid help
[07:36] <Theeb> hello, everytime I log in, I have to reload the windows manager manually, its not in the startup list i think, how to do it?
[07:36] <jim_p> ok back
[07:37] <Theeb> I use compiz icon to reload the manager