[00:00] <kyan> Hello ! I've accidentally created an invisible, autohidden panel and can't delete it.
[00:00] <kyan> Any suggestions?
[00:00] <kyan> (Ubuntu 10.04
[00:00] <CyL> DasEi: Sure, I'll google translate it...
[00:00] <bstarek> my ubuntu is great.....unless it doesnt do what i ask it to do!!! :)......i am trying to uninstall mysql server but it wont do it! anybody please?
[00:00] <DasEi> rypervenche: what you could do is to compres that winparty and then split and burn it to dvd's
[00:01] <Galaxor> So my question:  I have a wireless card that's connected to the network.  I'm trying to make this available over a bridge.  I've tried bridging it with my wired card, and now I'm bridging it to a machine in virtualbox.  In virtualbox, if I set the IP manually, it works, but if I try to use DHCP, the DHCP server will not respond to me.  What gives?
[00:01] <Tempus_Fugit> Can someone check my syntax:     mv -t "*fire" >> ~/Documents/intrusion?     intrusion? is a dir ....and I want 3 .txt files to go into that dir
[00:01] <DasEi> cyl : or ask me saurkraut, link : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/USB_ModeSwitch
[00:02] <sjm> bstarek, what does "aptitude purge mysql-server-5.1" do?
[00:02] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: get rid of that >>
[00:02] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: >> is output redirection for files, it means append
[00:02] <wizzle>  hi all. i have printer canon iP1880 and i using lucid, the question is how to set up this printer. i have no problem before with hp printer. but for this time, something like CUSP error when i try to do test print. so anyone help me?
[00:02] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: ok cool ty
[00:02] <smokie> how to find out if the version of ubuntu im running supports IPv6 or not? anyone?
[00:03] <bstarek> sjm, thanks for taking the time to answer.....i think its working just give me 5 minutes please
[00:03] <versuchsanstalt> i have to turn a ubuntu box into a double boot machine. when i set up something like this a few years ago, the way to go was to install the plague first, and my favourite distro afterwards. no brainer, always worked. what do i have to keep in mind when installing the plague after ubuntu? make a grub floppy and... then?
 Thanx 4 ur help it worked!
[00:04] <tgp1994> DasEi: Thank you, that's seemed to work :)
[00:05] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: sudo cp -R *fire ~/Documents/intrusion/
[00:05] <DasEi> tgp1994: nice to hear, have fun
[00:05] <Syniphas> hey, can someone help me with x?
[00:05] <Syniphas> startx returns "no screens found"
[00:05] <sjm> versuchsanstalt, just follow this after you install Windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[00:05] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: then check if it's there, and rm -r the old ones, if you like
[00:05] <versuchsanstalt> sjm: yeah, thank you. that's what i was looking for. great!
[00:06] <DasEi> rm=remove, gone forever, Tempus_Fugit
[00:06] <Tempus_Fugit> DasEi: will cp leave the original file?? cut I pretty much want to just mv them not cp so does that do the same thing
[00:06] <Galaxor> versuchsanstalt: It doesn't have to be a floppy.  I usually dump the bootsector into a file on the drive somewhere.  Then, after installing nonsense, I reboot using a cd or something, and dump the bootsector back.
[00:06] <ugliefrog> does anyone here know how to delete files off a microsd card permanently?....i have tried for the last few days to remove them, however when I reload the card all files are back on it
[00:07] <versuchsanstalt> Galaxor: yup. i think i'll use usb media. thank you.
[00:07] <Tempus_Fugit> DasEi:  ok got it just figured I could do it all in one motion
[00:07] <sjm> ugliefrog, use dd to overwrite them?
[00:07] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: it will, but it's nice to check first if everything worked right, and also rsync and cp have directory (r) functionaltiy whereas mv hasn't
[00:07] <ugliefrog> sjm, what do you mean dd to overwrite them
[00:07] <Tempus_Fugit> DasEi:  ok good to know ty
[00:08] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: you can line single commands by &&, but then have no way to check beforehands
[00:08] <bstarek> sjm, i think it has worked and dont ask how because i have no idea what happened i have trying to uninstall this for 3 days now! :)
[00:08] <sjm> ugliefrog, as in "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your SD card>"
[00:08] <bstarek> sjm, i gonna try to install LAMP now, i will let you know if i have any problem! thank u!
[00:08] <sjm> bstarek, you might also want to try to run "apt-get autoremove" to see if there are any orphaned packages.
[00:09] <bstarek> sjm, sure i will!
[00:09] <sjm> bstarek, but that is one thing that aptitude is better at than apt-get, but they still might be around if installed with apt-get rather than aptitude.
[00:09] <kyan> How can I use the terminal to delete panels?
[00:10] <bstarek> sjm, i always use apt-get i thought i was the same as aptitude
[00:10] <Emanon> hows banshee doing lately havent tried it in like 6 months
[00:11] <xangua> kyan: why do you want to delete the panels¿ if you do you will loss the ability to use menu (alt+f1) and launcher(alt+f2)
[00:11] <xangua> Emanon: why don't you install it and see by yourself¿ looks nice but i have always preffer rhythmbox
[00:11] <kyan> I only want to delete one, on the left. I created it, but it seems a bug has made it invisible. I can't see it or edit it.
[00:12] <kyan> It acts like a 24-px wide area of my desktop where windows won't stay.
[00:12] <sjm> bstarek, do a google search on "apt-get vs aptitude" and you'll see some of the differences.  I usually use aptitude.
[00:13] <taget> Does anyone know how i could run my irc client on a remote machine that is always on and then connect to it from other devices. I would like to have my irc client always running. Any ideas ?
[00:13] <versuchsanstalt> Galaxor: btw, dumping back the old boot sector will not make the newly installed plague bootable... ;-) good suggestion anyways, you reminded me of dd. thanks for that.
[00:13] <bstarek> sjm, allright i do that thanks!
[00:13] <Datz> DasEi: ok.. all old kernel entries still on list. should I just manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfv?
[00:13] <kyan> xangua : It acts like a 24-px wide area of my desktop where windows won't stay.
[00:13] <renedox> taget: use ssh, screen and irssi
[00:13] <CyL> DasEi: I managed to get it workinbg using gnomeppp... thanks very much for your help and effort
[00:14] <xangua> kyan: pkill gnome-panel ; it should start again
[00:14] <versuchsanstalt> taget: renedox's suggestion is good.
[00:14] <taget> renedox: Thanks, ill go do somemore googling
[00:14] <Datz> taget: yep perfect idea, it's what I do too :)
[00:14] <Datz> idea renedox has
[00:14] <renedox> taget: which of the three do you need help with? we can probably help
[00:14] <kyan> Thanks. Works now.
[00:14] <DasEi> Datz: no, one drive only in the box ?
[00:15] <Datz> DasEi: 3, but only two with OS's
[00:15] <th3wind> hello
[00:15] <taget> renedox: Appreciate it. i have ssh up and running already on my server. but not irssi or screen. how do you connect to a specific session when sshing into a server
[00:15] <th3wind> i am triple booting with windows 7, ubuntu 10.04 and osx 10.5.5  - Ever since grub was installed I have not been able to get into my OSX installation. My windows 7 and Ubuntu installations work fine though. Any help?
[00:16] <renedox> taget: "screen -r <sessionname>"
[00:16] <versuchsanstalt> taget: use screen -D -R when you try to reattach (-R) to an old session. -D will detach any other old attached screen you might have forgotten about.
[00:16] <taget> i may be using incorrect terminology, please correct me if im wrong
[00:16] <Datz> DasEi: I had to edit it once already.. to change uuid of a disk.. I don't know if that would be causing problems
[00:16] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/default/grub
[00:16] <Datz> DasEi: ok
 I have just installed ubuntu and its being very very, lets say extremely slow.  I dont have that slow of a computer :(
[00:16] <ems> oops did not mean to type <ems>
[00:16] <versuchsanstalt> taget: login using ssh, then start screen.
[00:17] <ems> Any ideas
[00:17] <dominicdinada> problem, on an external drive. it is saying that the drive is full... as i filled it up. This was like a week ago. I deleted a good 300 mb and emptied the trash in that same session but when i try to copy new files to the flash drive I am still getting No space. Even though on the status bar it reports about 337mb free
[00:17] <taget> versuchsanstalt: ahh, gotcha. where does the session name come from? or is that going to be more apparent as i get this set up
[00:17] <Datz> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/z4ce8D70
[00:18] <renedox> taget: personal preference but I like to assign screen sessions with a name so it's easier to restore
[00:18] <intrader> ems, is it like bug 631130? I as well have slowness issue with 10.04 (actually since trying 9.10)
[00:18] <versuchsanstalt> taget: if you only need one screen session on the machine, you don't need no session names when using -R (and -D if there is an old dangling one...)
[00:18] <th3wind> i am triple booting with windows 7, ubuntu 10.04 and osx 10.5.5  - Ever since grub was installed I have not been able to get into my OSX installation. My windows 7 and Ubuntu installations work fine though. Any help?
[00:18] <renedox> taget: so something like "screen -a -S irc" then just "screen -r irc" to restore
[00:18] <ani__helloo> hello to all,i have installed ubuntu and i had 2 partitions c ,d ,i install ubuntu ,but now i dont know how to open the D partition?
[00:18] <dominicdinada> problem, on an external drive. it is saying that the drive is full... as i filled it up. This was like a week ago. I deleted a good 300 mb and emptied the trash in that same session but when i try to copy new files to the flash drive I am still getting No space. Even though on the status bar it reports about 337mb free
[00:18] <Azjo> hi, how do i install ubuntu from wubi, from my cd drive? i do NOT want to download.
[00:18] <DasEi> Datz: sudo fdisk -l                   , which is the drive where grub shall sit ?
[00:18] <ems> intrader, i have no ideabut it takes me 3 min just to open "Applications"
[00:18] <versuchsanstalt> taget: i use only one session on my machine and always fire up screen -D -R
[00:19] <taget> renedox: Cool, thanks all for the help. Gonna try and give this a shot
[00:19] <renedox> taget: run "screen -ls" to see all screen sessions and their names
[00:19] <versuchsanstalt> taget: (detach old, reattach or start new session)
[00:19] <versuchsanstalt> taget: ... plus the info rededox is offering.
[00:19] <Datz> DasEi: ok, done
[00:20] <DasEi> Datz: device for grub ?
[00:20] <intrader> ems, that is too slow - I have to guess, but perhaps instead of reaching to the local drive, you are going to the cloud
[00:20] <xangua> Azjo: yes, wubi is incluided in the cd; run it from windows session
[00:20] <versuchsanstalt> taget: screen is great. you will love it.
[00:20] <ems> intrader, how is that possible? Its on my hard drive.
[00:20] <Azjo> xangua: it starts downloading after copying content from cd.
[00:20] <Datz> DasEi: sda1
[00:21] <xangua> Azjo: it shouldn't
[00:21] <taget> versuchsanstalt: is screen installed by default, or does it go by a different package name ?
[00:21] <Azjo> well, its useless then ;)
[00:21] <versuchsanstalt> taget: ah, and if you want to leave and keep the session open, just ctrl-a ctrl-d to detach from the current session. then log out as always
[00:21] <imperfect-> Anyone here running 10.4.1 on Asus P6T?
[00:21] <versuchsanstalt> taget: i guess the package is called screen
[00:21] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub* --dry run             , look if other then grub-stuff would be removed
[00:21] <imperfect-> My sound card appears to be detected just fine but I'm not getting any sound and it hurts my feelings.
[00:21] <versuchsanstalt> taget: check it out :-)
[00:21] <Datz> renedox: what am I missing out on but not running -a option in screen?
[00:21] <Datz> DasEi: ok
[00:21] <nullox> hi, how can I find the partition integer for /dev/sda1 for grub configuration
[00:21] <DasEi> Datz: last cmd will just simulate it
[00:22] <intrader> ems, maybe you are still on the CD?, or the mount table is incorrect for some reason? Just guessing.
[00:22] <nullox> (hd0, /dev/sda1 INT)
[00:22] <DasEi> nullox: you mean the uuid ?
[00:22] <DasEi> nullox:sudo blkid
[00:22] <nullox> is that what you call it
[00:22] <ems> intrader, any ideas on how i can remedy this awwful problem
[00:22] <Datz> DasEi: --dry is not understood
[00:22] <nullox> the int for the second argument required by grub
[00:22] <th3wind> anyone know anything about multiple os booting and grub?
[00:22] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub* --dry-run             , typo
[00:22] <intrader> ems, reinstall?
[00:23] <DasEi> th3wind: ask more detailded
[00:23] <th3wind> i am triple booting with windows 7, ubuntu 10.04 and osx 10.5.5  - Ever since grub was installed I have not been able to get into my OSX installation. My windows 7 and Ubuntu installations work fine though. Any help?
[00:23] <Fudge> anyone know how to get dummy video driver to work rightr?
[00:23] <th3wind> there is more detailed
[00:23] <Datz> DasEi: folling packages will be removed: grub* grub-common*
[00:23] <ems> intrader, i guess i will have to try that lol
[00:23] <DasEi> th3wind: try install and run os-prober
[00:23] <nullox> DasEi: that gives a long hex string delimited with -
[00:23] <fluvvell> ems, do you have processes running that need stopped?
[00:23] <nullox> hardly what I consider an integer
[00:23] <renedox> Datz: only a few minor things which you may or may not use, mostly terminal functionality, I believe
[00:23] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub*
[00:24] <thecake> hey guys sorry for the stupid question i googled it already all over. What is the command line command for mouse click and movement controls?
[00:24] <DasEi> !blkid | nullox
[00:24] <Datz> renedox: ah, ok thank.. I'll try with -a option next time :)
[00:24] <intrader> ems, let us know - make sure you save any info you have before formatting
[00:24] <fluvvell> ems, the system monitor can show you if a program is running at 90% of the cpu and taking up all your power
[00:24] <th3wind> DasEi: i looked in synaptec and I have os-prober installed
[00:24] <renedox> Datz: no problem ^^
[00:24] <Crankygeek> Can anyone explain to me how to install a SSL Cert? I have already requested it and have the cert, just not sure how to import it
[00:24] <Datz> DasEi: should I go ahead with it?
[00:24] <DasEi> nullox: grub 2 identifies partitons by this, as fstab does, though still understands devicenames
[00:24] <ems> fluvvell, i dont think so. i just installed ubuntu and it acted like this so i immediately went on the web. and nothing. perhaps it is my video display drivers but i downloaded the drivers.run file but no idea how to run a run file lol. so cant test it
[00:24] <nullox> I'm using legacy 0.97
[00:25] <ems> fluvvell, ill check right now, give me 15 minutes. literally :(
[00:25] <DasEi> Datz: yes
[00:25] <versuchsanstalt> thecake: xev?
[00:25] <Datz> DasEi: I don't want to lose my win7 boot option.. but..
[00:25] <Datz> going ahead
[00:25] <th3wind> DasEi: i also tried running update-grub
[00:25] <Datz> can always be added back
[00:25] <thecake> versuchsanstalt, yes thats it thank you so much.
[00:25] <versuchsanstalt> thecake: you're welcome
[00:25] <DasEi> Datz: or backub the cfg if not too late
[00:26] <rypervenche> DasEi: Hmm, it looks like doing a system clone is going to take a long time. I really only wanted to do it to put on someone elses computer if they wanted, seeing as I payed for the thing. I suppose I could just torrent an ISO for that then use my key, huh?
[00:26] <Datz> DasEi: hehe, too late.. but no prob
[00:26] <DasEi> rypervenche: ask ms..
[00:26] <ems> fluvvell, nope not even clsoe
[00:26] <Azjo> so how do i tell wubi to NOT get the same iso that it has just copied from cd?
[00:27] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[00:27] <fluvvell> ems, so when you say slow, what are you doing right now ?
[00:27] <ems> xchat
[00:27] <ems> lol
[00:28] <fluvvell> ems, which video adapter?
[00:28] <DasEi> Datz: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:28] <Crankygeek> Can anyone explain to me how to install a SSL Cert? I have already requested it and have the cert, just not sure how to import it
[00:28] <th3wind> so is there anything I can do (to grub, in ubuntu) to get my osx installation working again from the grub boot menu?
[00:28] <fluvvell> ems. yes xchat :-)
[00:28] <Evil_saltine> th3wind: does OSX appear in the grub menu?
[00:28] <ems> fluvvell, ati radeon x700. i dont think drivers are installed that is why the frames arent coming in so quick i am wrong could be
[00:28] <th3wind> Evil_saltine: yes
[00:28] <Datz> DasEi: ah, perfect -> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[00:28] <Datz> thanks a bunch DasEi
[00:28] <Evil_saltine> th3wind: Does grub give an error when you try to boot OSX?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> th3wind: Try asking in #grub.
[00:28] <fluvvell> ems, have you used the restricted drives program ?
[00:29] <ems> fluvvell, no because i dont know what that is
[00:29] <DasEi> th3wind: sory, I never had a licence for osx
[00:29] <fluvvell> ems, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[00:29] <th3wind> Evil_saltine: yes, I get an error - file not found and also something about the kernel (sorry I didn't write it down)
[00:29] <tgp1994> DasEi: Oh dear :( After trying to mount the cd after I burned an image to it, it still fails to mount.
[00:30] <nullox> DasEi: thanks that uuid string works
[00:30] <Evil_saltine> th3wind: Jordan_U is right, asking in #grub is a good idea
[00:30] <th3wind> DasEi: it's ok, no need to be 'sory'
[00:30] <th3wind> will do
[00:30] <ems> fluvvell,  nothing is listed in there. "No proprietery drivers are in this sytem"
[00:30] <DasEi> Datz: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:31] <versuchsanstalt> th3wind: maybe try again before asking in #grub and write down the error message... ;-)
[00:31] <DasEi> Datz: entries look correct ?
[00:31] <DasEi> Datz: just to check, nothing to edit here
[00:31] <Datz> DasEi: yes, except I like to have win7 boot by default.
[00:32] <Datz> Although I guess changing the order of that list isn't the proper way, but it's what I've done before
[00:32] <ems> How do I run a .run script? Better yet, how do I reset my root password? :(
[00:32] <DasEi> tgp1994: try by a gui then, sudo apt-get install k3b
[00:32] <Datz> I forget proper way now..
[00:32] <ems> fluvvell, i am so dumb with this right now i hate being new
[00:32] <vfw> ems: ./file-to-run
[00:32] <renedox> ems: ./name-of-script.run
[00:32] <Datz> someting about changing order of numbers of items in /boot or something.. ?
[00:33] <DasEi> datz: no problem, which entry is it ? the 2nd.. or .. ?
[00:33] <vfw> ems: But may need to chmod +x file-to-run #First
[00:33] <Datz> DasEi: it's last
[00:33] <DasEi> Datz: we need the number
[00:33] <fluvvell> ems, you won't have a root password, you will have admin permissions on your own user. its better
[00:33] <Datz> DasEi: actually I may be wrong..
[00:34] <vfw> !root > ems
[00:34] <tgp1994> DasEi: Ok, thanks.
[00:34] <fluvvell> ems, any super user (root) commands can be run with   sudo   in front of them
[00:34] <DasEi> !sudo
[00:34] <ems> fluvvell, ok because i do su ad it asks for one
[00:34] <ems> and then it says incorrect
[00:34] <ems> i get so mad
[00:34] <Datz> DasEi: actually I believe it is first somehow.. that's not usual behavior from what I've seen in the past
[00:34] <tgp1994> DasEi: Well, actually, I'd need one for GNOME. Do you happen to know of one that works in gnome, other than gnomebaker?
[00:34] <fluvvell> ems, its your own user password
[00:34] <versuchsanstalt> ems: newly created files are not executable by default, hence the chmod advice. and the current working directory is not searched for executable files, that's why you need to specify the path, like /home/username/script or ./script
[00:34] <renedox> ems: it's "sudo" not "su"
[00:34] <fluvvell> ^^
[00:34] <vfw> ems: you only have user password.  If you really need to login as root do  sudo su -
[00:34] <lapsa> switched from Fedora to Ubuntu. how to mount lvm2? following this (http://bit.ly/XF3zt) guide, but on step 5 'vgscan' returns nothing. any help?
[00:35] <renedox> ems: alternatively, you can do "sudo -i" and you'll stay in root
[00:35] <fluvvell> ems, what they said!
[00:35] <renedox> but it isn't recommended
[00:35] <DasEi> tgp1994: k3b works fine for me under gnome, also there is brasero (which failed me two times)
[00:35] <vfw> ems: But ubuntu is designed in such a way that it is not really necessary.
[00:35] <ems> Ok thanks! fluvvell, back to my original problem, sorry if you dont want to help just tell me to stfu i will understand
[00:35] <Datz> DasEi: I'm going to reboot to get to VM that needs fixing now :).. Thanks for the help regarding grub. ;)
[00:35] <NOMADICUS> Are any of you familiar with ArtistX?  Is it officially supported by Ubuntu?
[00:35] <ems> vfw, thats good then! i was just asking
[00:36] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  no what is that?  and do you have link?
[00:36] <vfw> ems: NP - FYI...
[00:36] <fluvvell> ems, its ok I was just ditto -ing the other guys comments :-)
[00:36] <DasEi> Datz: for changin default grub, edit /etc/default/grub, there entries count from 0 up, change the line default=n to according number, if needed
[00:36] <fluvvell> ems, but before you try installing a .run file,  its worth trying to figure whats broken
[00:36] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  got link and looking at it now
[00:36] <versuchsanstalt> ems: your user is in the "wheel" group. users in the wheel group may use sudo to execute specified commands as root (or other user). if you "sudo su" you use that mechanism to switch to root. that's good enough for almost any circumstance you will face.
[00:36] <fluvvell> ems, before potentially breaking something else
[00:37] <ems> fluvvell, the .run file is the ati drivers. so it worked on windows i was having a slow issue then i installed, and it was fine, so it might be in linux casee too
[00:37] <coz_> NOMADICUS,   actually it looks like most of the artistx components are in  ubuntu-studio
[00:37] <DasEi> Datz: there you can also change gruns behaviour in a way, you see the bootable before it wents on
[00:37] <ems> fluvvell, but.. Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[00:37] <ems> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.32-24-generic; make sure that the version is being
[00:37] <ems> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[00:37] <ems> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.liSHzp
[00:37] <FloodBot4> ems: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <ems> sorry FloodBot1
[00:37] <DasEi> (the difefrent os'es and kernels), Datz
[00:37] <ems> FloodBot4 *
[00:38] <renedox> ems: try looking for an ATI repository first, instead of using the .run file
[00:38]  * DasEi returns to some homework now
[00:38] <foul_owl> i'm having problems with my wireless card. i have a linksys wusb54g. it worked with windows machines. ubuntu finds the drivers and detects my access point, but times out when trying to connect. i have no idea how to even see what the problem might be
[00:38] <renedox> ems: that way, when an updated driver becomes available, it will tell you automatically
[00:38] <Datz> DasEi: thanks, making a note. Hehe, funny thing about boot order.. I was right both times. There are two entries for win7. One first, and one last :P
[00:39] <versuchsanstalt> couldn't anybody program FloodBot4 to say "nevermind" or something friendly? that'd be so nice.
[00:39] <rypervenche> Oh, I have another netbook question for anyone available. I want to use the desktop version of Lucid on my netbook, but I'm not sure if I'll be losing out on anything by not installing the netbook version. Any ideas/comments?
[00:39] <mfz2008> hey friends after I update to ubuntu10 ,it give me "can't open root device uuid=xxxx"
[00:39] <NOMADICUS> coz_; I have installed ArtistX and it seems potentially more appealing than Ubuntu Studio.
[00:39] <tbr> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a friends machine but after the purple screen with the little icons at the bottom I get a message box that pops up with "/casqer/vmlinuz". I have tried three different LiveCDs and two DVD drives. I'm now leaning toward a bad RAM module. Does anyone know anything other than bad RAM that might cause this?
[00:39] <xangua> !maverick > mfz2008
[00:39] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: uhmm
[00:39] <tbr> Oh and I once did make it to the initial cd menu and every selection would pop up the same message box
[00:39] <NOMADICUS> coz_; I have not installed the most recent Ubuntu Studio though.
[00:39] <DasEi> Datz: you can also tell grub howmany entries to keep at all
[00:39] <xangua> mmm were you refering to 10.04 or 10.10 mfz2008¿
[00:39] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: go with the netbook for 10.04, and then I guess upgrade it to 10.10 when thats released and try Unity
[00:40] <tgp1994> DasEi: I think I'd have to download a bunch of KDE libraries that I really don't want.
[00:40] <NOMADICUS> coz_; Last I tried it was years ago.
[00:40] <vfw> tbr: Run mentest
[00:40] <versuchsanstalt> tbr: it's never a bad idea to use memtest.
[00:40] <DasEi> Datz:again in /etc/defalt/grub
[00:40] <ems> renedox, i cant do a ******* thing right now because of this problem let alone look for one. lol no offense im just really mad
[00:40] <Datz> DasEi: by deleting and entry?
[00:40] <mfz2008> 10.04
[00:40] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: What do I get extra in the netbook version that I don't in the desktop version? I heard some people say it's basically the same thing.
[00:40] <versuchsanstalt> memtest is on the install cd, isnt it?
[00:40] <DasEi> Datz:again in /etc/defalt/grub,  option howmany
[00:40] <tbr> There's no memtest in the BIOS and i can't get the livecd menu to run it off the CD
[00:40] <will> I'm trying to do the LiveCD Customization.  Every time I get to this step 'sudo unsquashfs mnt/casper/filesystem.squashfs'   my VM crashes.   I'm guessing it is RAM related.  How much RAM does this command need?
[00:41] <Datz> DasEi: ok, I'll be sure to check it out.. booted to win7 now though.. time for a look at the networking..
[00:41] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: 10.04 netbook and desktop are basically the same thing, but for 10.10 this won't be quite the case, since a new netbook look
[00:41] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  ah ok... if you look at the applications on artistx and compare to ubuntu-studio I think they are quite similar and you can always install them on regular ubuntu or better still Edubuntu
[00:41] <ehcah> Can anyone make a reccomendation on creating an extremely light bootable ubuntu desktop install from USB Pen Drive?
[00:41] <DasEi> Datz:afterwards run sudo update-grub
[00:41] <vfw> rypervenche: It's not the same.  And personally, I would just install normal Ubuntu, (unless you have small HD).
[00:41] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: actsaully the netbook version is in a way nicer than the desktop for 10.04.
[00:41] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  although this version of artistx is aug 2010  so it is recent
[00:41] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: I don't like the interface at all in the netbook version.
[00:41] <mfz2008> xangua: 10.04
[00:42] <vfw> ehcah: CLI only?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: lets go pm, since we'll get a bit off topic
[00:42] <xangua> ehcah: lubuntu ¿
[00:42] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: I plan on using my netbook was my main computer. I like normal usage.
[00:42] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: Ok.
[00:42] <Datz> DasEi: k, thanks, adding that to note. ;)
[00:42] <will> how much RAM does 'unsquashfs' need?
[00:42] <ehcah> vfw: yes.
[00:42] <ems> fluvvell, did you leave?
[00:42] <ehcah> vfw: it for an HTPC install.
[00:42] <foul_owl> i'm having problems with my wireless card. i have a linksys wusb54g. it worked with windows machines. ubuntu finds the drivers and detects my access point, but times out when trying to connect. i have no idea how to even see what the problem might be
[00:43] <kbot6789> hi guys got a question about a game
[00:43] <vfw> HTPC ?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: got the message?
[00:43] <ZekeS> I dont think CLI only would be good for a Home Theater PC
[00:43] <ehcah> vfw: Home Theater COmputer
[00:43] <fluvvell> ems, sorry - phone call in
[00:43] <ems> fluvvell, ok dude its ok np
[00:44] <ehcah> I've been trying to get xbmc live installed, but it won't from USB?
[00:44] <renedox> ems: patience is the key :P what about switching to terminal and doing things from there? at least it'll respond faster
[00:44] <DasEi> Datz: I've got some work to do here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/grub2  tells all , the mega-note ;-)
[00:44] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: did you find some error log messages, like in dmesg or some like that?
[00:44] <coz_> kbot6789,  which game?
[00:44] <mfz2008> kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[00:44]  * Datz looks
[00:44] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: ...beyond "timing out"?
[00:44] <kbot6789> warzone 2100
[00:45] <coz_> kbot6789, oh ok i have never used that one sorry
[00:45] <ems> renedox, well im not being mean, but youre right, but what kind of OS is ubuntu if this happens
[00:45] <kbot6789> i know thare are linux updates i just donot know how to install them
[00:45] <NOMADICUS> coz_; I also recently discovered a distro from Distro Watch called Uber Studet which is apparently not yet officially under the Ubuntu family tree but is built off of the Ubuntu base. http://www.uberstudent.org/
[00:45] <foul_owl> hmm one sec
[00:45] <Datz> DasEi: if I see what you mean, yes.. looks like some work
[00:45] <renedox> ems: it's not the OS, it's a combination of choice of hardware and ATI drivers
[00:46] <renedox> ems: you say it happens under windows too
[00:46] <fluvvell> ems, if the slowness is indeed in your graphics card,
[00:46] <foul_owl> ok i got something here
[00:46] <ems> renedox, i think i really do i just need to get these drivers on here
[00:46] <ems> renedox, but they wont install ~_`
[00:46] <ems> renedox, i get an error
[00:46] <tbr> vfw, versuchsanstalt, holy ball. finally made it to memtest. never seen so many red lines scoll on the screen at once. 100,000 errors and climbing. thanks for the advice
[00:47] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  this looks interesting if just to compare with Edubuntu
[00:47] <jlebar> I'm trying to install Jaunty into a VM (so I can test gcc 4.3.3), and it's hanging at "configuring shared-mime-info".  What's going on?
[00:47] <foul_owl> looks like: "wlan0: deauthenticating from (mac address) by local choice, reason=3"
[00:47] <renedox> ems: can you pastebin the error so we can see what it is?
[00:47] <ems> renedox, that will take awhile but yea i can
[00:47] <versuchsanstalt> tbr: oops. so get new ram!
[00:47] <demonspork> on Ubuntu 10.04, I have a server w/ 700mhz celeron that responds very snappily when I log in via SSH, and then a server with dual 2.4Gz 2 core xeon procs and d it seems to lag when attempting to access it via SSH and it also lags for a few seconds when do other various tasks. Anytithing processing intensive goes at a an expected high rate, but some things just randomly ladelay for about 10 seconds
[00:47] <xangua> jlebar: are you concious that jaunty will stop being supported shortly¿
[00:47] <fluvvell> ems, can you check if you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon   installed?
[00:48] <renedox> ems: great, if I miss it, I'm sure others here won't and may be able to help
[00:48] <ems> fluvvell, how
[00:48] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: i don't know the answer to your question, but google could.
[00:48] <jlebar> xangua, I'm just trying to see if an issue I'm observing is caused by a bug that was fixed between gcc 4.3.4 and gcc 4.3.3.
[00:48] <NOMADICUS>  coz_; From my understanding Edubuntu is for children and Uber Student is target for college accademics.
[00:48] <demonspork> The faster server also is afresh install
[00:48] <foul_owl> thanks for the dmesg tip, i will now defer to google! :)
[00:49] <fluvvell> ems, right. In a terminal  type     dpkg -l |grep radeon
[00:49] <imperfect-> Hey, is there a pieceof software that will allow me to telnet to a serial port?
[00:49] <jlebar> xangua, if there's a way to install gcc 4.3.3 on Lucid, I'd be all ears.  (the gcc-4.3 package installs gcc 4.3.4.)
[00:49] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: yeah, dmesg is a great way to find out about problems. always.
[00:49] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  mm   yeah this is partially true  edubuntu has primary  seondary and tertiary packages that should go up to college level although I use Edubuntu and not sure that is particularly accurate :)
[00:49] <ems> fluvvell, , i will paaste that too within the pastebin
[00:49] <Datz> DasEi: sudo ifup eth0 -> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device. eth0: ERROR while getting interface flages : No such device. Bind socket to interface: No such device
[00:49] <fluvvell> ems, still reading http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/radeon.4.html
[00:49] <ems> www.pastebin.com
[00:50] <fluvvell> ems, you particular pastebin link ?
[00:50] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  I am going to download both uberstudent and artistx to compare
[00:50] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  however...if you are into graphics  you can set up ubuntu with just a few extra applications that will round it off and certainly meet up to most artistic expectations easily
[00:51] <DasEi> Datz: I need some time for working myself now and will be back in 2 hours, try to check the type of nick (try different) and list them by lspci
[00:51] <ems> fluvvell, , renedox, http://pastebin.com/EcPWd6gj
[00:51] <kholzer> imperfect-: minicom
[00:51] <DasEi> Datz: also #virtualbox
[00:51] <imperfect-> kholzer: I can get it to let me telnet to the serial port?
[00:51] <kholzer> imperfect-: a serial terminal emulator, right?
[00:51] <Datz> DasEi: ok thanks for the tips, I'm in VMware though
[00:51] <ems> DasEi, its #vbox not #virtualbox. :)
[00:51] <DasEi> datz°
[00:51] <kholzer> imperfect-: do you want to aces a serial port on your computer?  or what?
[00:51] <DasEi> Datz:  ^see ems
[00:52] <NOMADICUS> coz_; It is difficult, because I still call myself a noob, but I am by far more knowledgable than most of my friends who are not so os savvy.  They are all interested in having Linux as their os, but each person has different usage habbits and want their system to do different things.
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: I want to telnet to the ip of my box and have it connect me to the serial port.
[00:52] <renedox> ems: run that .run file again but with sudo in front of it
[00:52] <vfw> ehcah: See: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:52] <kholzer> imperfect-: ssh into your box.  then run minicom there.
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: Or more accurately, to four of them
[00:52] <NOMADICUS> coz_; before I am willing to install something on their machine I want to have tried it and know it myself.
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: I've got 4 of them, and for this application I can actually use screen
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: I wonder if there is a way to get a screen session to attach to all four instead of just the one
[00:53] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  understood... and that is an excellent approach .. I try to convert most of my clients over to ubuntu and so far NO complaints regardless of their habits :)
[00:53] <ems> renedox, same thing my man
[00:53] <kholzer> imperfect-: there definitely is...but I've never remembered how to use screen long enough to tell you how to do it ;[
[00:53] <fluvvell> ems, paste last result ?
[00:53] <imperfect-> kholzer: I use screen constantly.
[00:54] <versuchsanstalt> kholzer, imperfect- there is #screen, btw
[00:54] <imperfect-> blah.
[00:54] <ems> fluvvell, huh? you mean the sudo command?
[00:54] <fluvvell> ems,yep
[00:54] <zorael> Is there any way to make a route persistent? As soon as my network interface renews its ip, the routing table gets cleared.
[00:54] <kholzer> versuchsanstalt: I just now figured out that was what he was trying to do...thought he just wanted to talk to a serial port...
[00:54] <ems> www.pm
[00:54] <ems> oos
[00:54] <ems> www.pastebin.com
[00:54] <FloodBot4> ems: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <versuchsanstalt> yeah, but it's four of them. in a row, i suppose. (i am kidding, think you noticed...)
[00:55] <sjm> zorael, fix the routing in your DHCP server.  It's sending out the new information.
[00:55] <ems> FloodBot4, did not :(
[00:55] <ems> fluvvell, http://pastebin.com/JYU9hEEB
[00:56] <glick> hey does magic jack work for linux/ubuntu and if not is there something similar to it, that does work in 'buntu
[00:56] <glick> ?
[00:56] <vfw> ems: did you try ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --iscurrentdistro ?
[00:56] <ems> vfw, yes but not with the sudo command
[00:56] <sjm> glick, last I heard, no.  but you can look into freeswitch or asterisk or some other such thing.
[00:57] <glick> sjm, heh that all sounds hard to set up
[00:57] <mistergibson> I can't get desktop edition to boot properly for install on my laptop - but server edition boots into the installer ... anyone else run into this?
[00:57] <ems> vfw, it brings up a wide varity of commands ?
[00:57] <glick> im looking for something plug and play
[00:57] <zorael> sjm: I'm trying to override that, sort of. I'm connecting to a vpn on this machine and freenode.net doesn't really like me connecting through a proxy - it complains about identification via SASL (which is my real issue that I'm working around). So it's 'route add leguin.freenode.net gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlan0' after each vpn reconnect and/or wlan reconnect.
[00:57] <glick> might magic jack work with wine?
[00:58] <vfw> ems: How wide?  What are they?
[00:58] <fluvvell> ems, you *are* running a 64 bit os?    uname -a
[00:58] <sjm> glick, I don't think so.  You can look into a standalone box similar to ooma.
[00:58] <ems> fluvvell, no 32bit
[00:58] <vfw> vfw: But does not do what with the sudo command?
[00:58] <glick> ooma?
[00:58] <ems> fluvvell,  i wish 64
[00:58] <str1k3r> Hey guys, I want to set up sendmail or exim, but they ask me my domain... can I just put what I want ?
[00:58] <renedox> ems: try sudo ./driver-file.run -listpkg
[00:58] <fluvvell> ems, you've just downloaded the wrong driver thats all.
[00:59] <fluvvell> ems, maybe.....
[00:59] <renedox> ah
[00:59] <ems> fluvvell,  Linux kaos 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:24:04 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:59] <sjm> zorael, you can set things up more statically and not use networkmanager (I assume you are using network manager?)
[00:59] <vfw> ems: I suppose you will need to run this via sudo (at your own risk).
[01:00] <vfw> ems: Yes, as fluvvell says, make sure you have correct driver software for your device.
[01:00] <renedox> ems: I think fluvvell might be right, you've downloaded the 64 version when you need the 32 one
[01:00] <fluvvell> ems,   wait guys,  I think its all in one...
[01:00] <vfw> ems: What does  lspci |grep VGA say?
[01:00] <MTec007> hello all! I'm trying to get some help here, I have set up OpenSSH for windows, and I can connect fine. I'm trying to figure out how I can, or what I have to do, to create a file on the remote machine.. can this be done from the terminal or... ?
[01:00] <ems> it says x86 though
[01:00] <ems> vfw,  checking
[01:00] <fluvvell>   https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[01:00] <ems> that is what i downloaded
[01:01] <zorael> sjm: I am, yes. It's a Kubuntu installation though I'm using pppd directly to call the vpn. KDE's networking widget (via NetworkManager) sets everything up otherwise. I guess I could make an if-up.d script, hm. Thanks.
[01:01] <sjm> zorael, sorry, been a while since I set up a vpn directly on a linux machine.  I'd assume in the vpn up/down scripts you could find where the routes are set and fix it there.
[01:01] <ems> vfw, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)]
[01:01] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: if you want to create a file on the windows machine, this might be the wrong place to ask. if you are trying to create a file on a linux machine, try the touch command.
[01:01] <fluvvell> ems, can you also  apt-get install dkms
[01:01] <fluvvell> sudo
[01:01] <MTec007> well im SSHing from ubuntu to window
[01:02] <MTec007> s/window/windows
[01:02] <fluvvell> ems, site says :  Kernal Sources package is no longer required if Kernel Header package is installed.
[01:02] <ems> fluvvell, done but what does this do
[01:02] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: i don't know how to create a file in a windows terminal, i am sorry.
[01:03] <MTec007> I tried edit but i couldnt get the program to show in the terminal
[01:03] <vfw> ems: This looks interesting:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ati-driver-not-working-after-update-585410/
[01:03] <sjm> MTec007, are you in cygwin?  try the linux commands.
[01:03] <MTec007> cygwin is currently downloading and installing
[01:03] <vfw> versuchsanstalt: What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:03] <fluvvell> ems, sometimes helps with .run installables.
[01:04] <fluvvell> ems,  now sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <versuchsanstalt> vfw: MTec007 is trying to create a file on a windows machine he is accessing using ssh
[01:04] <sjm> MTec007, I assume you're not on the same LAN?
[01:04] <vfw> versuchsanstalt: O
[01:04] <MTec007> sjm yes, same router even
[01:05] <ems> fluvvell, done
[01:05] <sjm> Do you need ssh or could you use RDP or VNC?
[01:05] <sjm> MTec007, Do you need ssh or could you use RDP or VNC?
[01:05] <MTec007> i prefer ssh
[01:05] <fluvvell> ems, a slightly complex instruction manual is here:  https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat92-inst.pdf
[01:06] <fluvvell> ems, but knowing things are running slowly for you....
[01:06] <sjm> MTec007, me too, but with linux on the other end.
[01:06] <fluvvell> ems, it could be a bit tricky.
[01:06] <MTec007> i prefer going by terminal for anything
[01:06] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: you could use the windows md command to create a directory, then list the current directory using dir. but alas, i don't know the plague good enough to know every itch and pain of it.
[01:06] <fluvvell> ems, perhaps just try the sudo .run  thing again and paste results
[01:06] <MTec007> versuchsanstalt, lol :)
[01:07] <ems> fluvvell, same result :(
[01:07] <ems> fluvvell, im in deep doodoo
[01:07] <King_Arthur> Does Empathy have email notification?
[01:07] <fade_> hi. Anyone have experience with QNAP NAS devices? I'm trying to connect a couple of disks (Linear array) - that was earlier used in my NAS - to my computer to copy over a ton of files. However, as the disks are encrypted, it's asking for a password to mount the volume. And my password doesn't work.
[01:08] <MTec007> maybe i shall wait for cygwin and go from there. im just impatient
[01:08] <fade_> I tried making a new encrypted volume on my NAS with a set of other disks, and sure enough, I couldn't mount them on my desktop
[01:08] <sjm> fade_, no experience at that level.
[01:08] <collabra> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx <--- ems,... are you sure you have the x86 and not the x64 driver?
[01:08] <sjm> fade_, try the qnap forums?
[01:08] <renedox> ems: don't give up yet, it looks like the ubuntu wiki may have the answer you're looking for
[01:09] <fade_> yeah been searching my ass off. guess i'll have to make a post
[01:09] <sjm> fade_, you can't put them back in the NAS to do the copy?
[01:09] <renedox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:09] <collabra> ems: 32 instead of 64,... or is it the same file.
[01:09] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: can you imagine? everytime i boot the plague it asks me about daylight savings time. and i'm not kidding. (doesnt apply for my work situation)
[01:10] <fade_> i guess i could, but i was hoping to avoid an all-night process of copying 3tb of data via LAN
[01:10] <renedox> it is for 9.10 but I found things generally work in future versions when it comes to video drivers
[01:10] <fade_> also, there's the issue of "i want to be able to do this"
[01:10] <ems> collabra, same file
[01:11] <vfw> ehcah: See: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/slax/
[01:11] <fluvvell> renedox, yes I was just worried it didn't make a lot of clarity with lucid.
[01:11] <Tweaky> oh no someone instlled the proprietary ati driver?
[01:11] <renedox> fluvvell: yeah, I did consider that but probably wouldn't hurt to give it a try, I guess :S
[01:11] <renedox> Tweaky: someone trying to ;)
[01:12] <shiv_> Hi folks, I have 2 partitions one with Win7 and other with ubuntu. I need to format the Win7 and reinstall. I know I will lose grub with this. How do I get the grub back after I am done reinstalling win7 on win partiton leaving ubuntu alone
[01:12] <sjm> fade_, I might try to stick them in the NAS and look at the config there with mdadm and such to see if I could replicate the config on my box (but realistically, I'd probably be done sooner with the copy over the LAN).
[01:12] <MTec007> versuchsanstalt, yeah windows is pretty bad but its good enough for my 3 year old to play on.. its an old laptop
[01:12] <jrib> !grub2 | shiv_
[01:12] <fluvvell> renedox, other forums suggest that the open source drivers are ok.  Hmm, just worried his slowdown might be elsewhere
[01:12] <Tweaky> i would recommend against installing the propriatary ati drivers they ar nothing but trouble
[01:12] <fade_> yeah, i guess LAN copy is the way to go :)
[01:12] <sjm> !grub | shiv_
[01:12] <renedox> fluvvell: yeah.. me too
[01:13] <renedox> fluvvell: video drivers might be a good place to start though, cause ems is also getting the same thing on windows and a driver install fixes it
[01:13] <fluvvell> renedox, however the pdf is saying there are quite a few libraries that need to be there before the .run works.
[01:13] <fade_> on a more ubuntu-related note: How would i go about setting up networking in ubuntu such that i can access my server via LAN whilst being able to stay connected to the net (via wireless)? I've heard someone talk about subnet mask and such, but i'm pretty clueless
[01:14] <Andorin> Seahorse is being a bit of a pain. I got tired of having to enter a password on login to unlock my keyring, so I set the password to match my login password hoping it would automatically unlock... now neither the new password nor the old password works.
[01:14] <renedox> fluvvell: what's the link to the .pdf again? I didn't open it
[01:14] <shiv_> sjm, jrib sounds good. Thanks a lot!
[01:14] <fade_> atm if both connections are active, none of them work
[01:14] <kavurt> can you guys recommend me a charting software? openoffice calc is not doing what i want
[01:14] <fluvvell> renedox, XFree86-Mesa-libGL,libstdc++, libgcc, XFree86-libs, fontconfig, freetype, zlib, gcc
[01:15] <sjm> fade_, if it's all on the same network, it should just work.
[01:15] <renedox> fluvvell: oh damn.. lol -_-;
[01:15] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: there is gnumeric, for example
[01:15] <fluvvell> renedox, would envy-ng be an easier solution - does it still do ATI ?
[01:16] <fade_> well it's not. The internet is only reachable via wireless. My server is connected to a "offline" lan: My Computer <-> Router <-> server
[01:16] <kavurt> versuchsanstalt: is gnumeric better than calc?
[01:16] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: define "better".
[01:16] <undecim> What's the proper way to have a file included in the initramfs so that it's there every time it's updated?
[01:16] <renedox> fluvvell: not sure, I use nvidia and only troubleshooted ATI once but it wasn't this problem :S
[01:17] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: also, are you sure that calc can not do what you want it to do?
[01:17] <fade_> this is to avoid Wifi speeds when migrating to new disks on my server *quake*
[01:17] <fluvvell> renedox, me too - but I have a couple of clients with ATI, again as you say, it wasn't this particular problem
[01:17] <porqueeeee> I've just upgraded to lucid lynx and my usb ports are acting very badly, file transfers to usb drives never finish
[01:17] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: you could ask about that in an openoffice channel
[01:17] <ugliefrog> whats a good simple webcam app
[01:17] <sjm> fade_, does your server (qnap?) do dhcp?
[01:17] <Andorin> ugliefrog: Cheese
[01:17] <porqueeeee> which is frustrating as I've just got venture brothers ep 9 and I can't watch it on my divx player ;__;
[01:17] <fluvvell> ems, can you do a    ps aux    and paste the output to the pastebin ?
[01:18] <ugliefrog> Andorin, ty ill try it out
[01:18] <shiv_> kavurt, wine is always there to help with ms exel for really heavy duty stuff R can help as well
[01:18] <Marine> Marine is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[01:18] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: or maybe even here, depending on how specific and super gnarly specialistic the problem is.
[01:18] <fade_> it receives dhcp (ip address yes?) from the router, i think
[01:18] <ems> fluvvell,  i sure can hold one
[01:18] <fade_> and aye, it's a qnap
[01:18] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: and like shiv_ says, wine has come a long way
[01:18] <sjm> fade_, the router is also the AP?
[01:18] <fade_> no
[01:18] <porqueeeee> please, I need to be able to use usb
[01:19] <fluvvell> ems,  *one*  ;-)
[01:19] <ems> fluvvell, one?
[01:19] <renedox> lol
[01:19] <fluvvell> ems, sry  lol
[01:20] <fade_> our main network (with inet access) is in a different room. I don't have cables set up to this room, so connecting via wireless.   I temporarily have my qnap set up in my room next to my desktop to migrate files.
[01:20] <Andorin> Hey guys, I changed the password on my keyring in Seahorse, and neither the new nor the old passwords are working. Any idea what to do?
[01:20] <kavurt> versuchsanstalt: i can do charts with calc. but i can't give the shape i want. i want to see the values vertically. but it shows only horizontaly
[01:20] <fluvvell> this job needs humour
[01:20] <sjm> fade_, setup the router to be on a different network than the wireless (e.g. if wireless is <IP_ADDRESS>/24, then set the router to <IP_ADDRESS>/24).
[01:20] <collabra> fluvvell: he has all those prereqs you mentioned earlier,... or,... ?
[01:20] <fade_> ok cool
[01:21] <ems> fluvvell, http://pastebin.com/ptwyQcaW
[01:21] <renedox> fluvvell: what job?
[01:21] <fluvvell> collabra, good question - but does he really need proprietory drivers, - or is his slowdown elsewhere ?
[01:21] <fluvvell> renedox, lol !
[01:21] <shiv_> kavurt, in that case I think you just need to put the original data in diff ways like change rows to colums and vice versa if I understand right. Just play around harder I guess
[01:21] <sjm> fade_, then, if they are on different networks it should just work, but don't put in a gateway in the router config.
[01:22] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: maybe ask in #openoffice.org?
[01:22] <fade_> thanks a lot, sjm! I'll try this out! :)
[01:22] <fluvvell> renedox,  process might be a better phrase
[01:22] <fluvvell> *word*
[01:22] <renedox> fluvvell: haha sure does :P
[01:22] <kavurt> shiv_: i'll try thanks. versuchsanstalt: thanks
[01:22] <enth> Hello, all. Is this channel about Ubuntu?
[01:22] <renedox> GNU/Linux iz srs bsns
[01:23] <carandraug> hi! I'm trying to untar a file into another user home directory but I don't have permissions to cd into it. I can sudo as that user but the working directory is my. I've tried tar with -C but that also doesn't work. Anyone knows how I work around it? Also, that account has no password (as the root account) so I can't log in as that user
[01:23] <sjm> fade_, just check (with "route -n") that your default gateway points to your wireless gateway.
[01:23] <collabra> !hi | enth
[01:23] <vfw> carandraug: Copy that file over there first.
[01:23] <enth> Ok, here is my question: Is this channel about Ubuntu?
[01:24] <Saguaro> nope
[01:24] <carandraug> enth, this this support channel for ubuntu. To just chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:24] <Saguaro> it's about CentOS
[01:24] <enth> Ok, thanks!
[01:24] <collabra> yes,... enth,...go ahead and ask
[01:24]  * tddirc has an important question
[01:24] <Saguaro> wtf was that all about
[01:24] <tddirc> who here all cares about their freedom?
[01:24] <renedox> tddirc: 42
[01:24] <tddirc> lol that too
[01:24] <renedox> :P
[01:24] <Saguaro> are you glenn beck irl
[01:24] <tddirc> no.
[01:24] <vfw> carandraug: Copy that file over there and then login as that user and untar it.
[01:24] <tddirc> not trying to spam
[01:24] <carandraug> vfw, the tar file is already where I want it to be uncompressed, on that user home directory. But tar uncompresses on the current working directory which is MY home
[01:25] <fluvvell> ems,   can you do a   top       then ctrl-c and paste what shows ?  You might be able to recycle the same paste location
[01:25] <tddirc> not trying to spam, but everyone should sign this http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/acta-declaration
[01:25] <vfw> carandraug: You need to login as the other user.
[01:25] <carandraug> vfw, I can't log in as that user. It has no password (as the root account)
[01:25] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: or cd into directory as root, untar, then chown -R username directory
[01:25] <vfw> carandraug: What do you mean "It has no password (as the root account)
[01:26] <vfw> ?
[01:26] <carandraug> vfw, I've tried sudo -u username jxvf file name -C destination but it doesn't work
[01:26] <carandraug> vfw, I mean that the account was set without a password, the same way as the root account in ubuntu. It's disabled
[01:26] <fluvvell> enth,   UBUNTU!!!
[01:27] <vfw> crescendo: sudo su - other-user-name
[01:27] <fluvvell> ems, top command ?
[01:27] <Andorin> Yeah, even after a reboot, Seahorse refuses to open my keyring. Says that both the old and the new passwords are incorrect. So basically I'm locked out of Evolution, Gwibber, and whatever other apps use a keyring. Help?
[01:28] <renedox> fluvvell: seems he went afk
[01:28] <ems> fluvvell, ,its being so slow rigght now one sec
[01:28] <renedox> maybe not
[01:28] <ems> fluvvell, http://pastebin.com/idjMA3zf
[01:28] <fluvvell> ems, thats fine.
[01:28] <shiv_> gn everybody
[01:29] <carandraug> versuchsanstalt, but how do I cd into that directory as root? There's no root password.
[01:29] <carandraug> versuchsanstalt, duh! I can use sudo su. Thanks
[01:29] <prince_jammys> carandraug: use ''sudo -i''
[01:29] <prince_jammys> this will give you a login shell as root.
[01:29] <fluvvell> I think I'd knock compiz on the head
[01:29]  * renedox agrees with fluvvell
[01:30] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: :-) you spared me a long search for an explanation from a few minutes ago... ;-)
[01:30] <Firefishe> I have a laptop with an external slide-type switch for the wi-fi.  I'm running ubuntu 10.04.  When I boot up, if the switch isn't in the ON position, I can't get the nm-applet to initialize the radio.  Is there a way to initialize the wi-fi radio without having to reboot the entire computer?
[01:30] <fluvvell> cpu is doing next to nothing.
[01:30] <fluvvell> ems, disable all desktop effects in your appearance menu
[01:30] <ems> I know this
[01:30]  * versuchsanstalt is still not drunk enough to reboot and install the plague.
[01:31] <carandraug> versuchsanstalt, I know this stuff. I should have tought about. Instead I spent half an hour reading tar's man page
[01:31] <ems> ok
[01:31] <ems> hold
[01:31] <Andorin> So what, do I have to delete the whole keyring and start over from scratch because this one won't work at all? >_>
[01:31] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: but that's a good way to spend your time. tar is great.
[01:31] <renedox> versuchsanstalt: it's easy, just type "sudo install plague --black" :P
[01:31] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: (i'm getting your point though)
[01:32] <ems> sorry
[01:32] <eppa> official 10.04 EBS EC2 image doesn't seem to come back after a reboot :( and I have checked that SSH is running and access allowed by security group ;)
[01:32] <fluvvell> its ok ems,  its just we're all volunteers here - trying to help.
[01:32] <versuchsanstalt> renedox: :-)
[01:33] <eppa> anyone else get this poblem?
[01:33] <ems> fluvvell,  OH HEY ITS FIXED
[01:33] <ems> I disabled no visual effects
[01:33] <ems> whatever that is
[01:33] <tgp1994> eppa: Like from the grub bootloader?
[01:33] <vfw> ems: very good...
[01:33] <ems> What has happened
[01:34] <ems> What went wrong
[01:34] <fluvvell> ems, seriously ?
[01:34] <ems> yes fluvvell
[01:34] <ems> lol
[01:34] <eppa> tgp1994: I don't even know if it gets that far.. the AWS EC2 console is blank, shows no sign of normal boot output
[01:34] <fluvvell> renedox, ems,  WOOT!
[01:34] <ems> cool dude
[01:34] <ems> but maybe the devs should look intot hat
[01:34] <ems> i dont know maybe not
[01:34] <tgp1994> eppa: Hrm... I don't know what AWS is, but, do you have a normal monitor connected to what ever machine this is?
[01:35] <fluvvell> ems, the problem might revolve more around  the whole ATI  proprietory thing
[01:35] <eppa> tgp1994: hehe, no, AWS == Amazon Web Service. EC2 == Elastic Compute Cloud
[01:35] <fluvvell> ems, and its a bit political.
[01:35] <ari_stress> morning
[01:35] <ems> fluvvell, oh
[01:35] <collabra> fluvvell: do you think ems ought to try and load this driver
[01:35] <fluvvell> collabra, not if he wants to stay stable :-)
[01:35] <tgp1994> eppa: Ohhhh. Wow, you can install your own OS there?
[01:36] <fluvvell> ems, collabra,  I think what might happen is this will get sorted over a few months
[01:36] <fluvvell> updates will come out
[01:36] <collabra> yeah
[01:36] <eppa> tgp1994: yah dude, as many as you want
[01:36] <tgp1994> eppa: Interesting. You may want to have their team check on it.
[01:37] <eppa> tgp1994: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/release/  Canonical provided AMI's you can boot
[01:37] <ems> fluvvell,  i still cant get over that was the easiest fix in the world and we're sitting here trying to figure it out. by we i mean you and rend, lol
[01:37] <ems> thanks guys
[01:37] <tgp1994> eppa: Huh. But this looks awfully close to a hardware problem, on Amazon's end.
[01:37] <fluvvell> ems, your welcome.   Diagnosis is always the hardest part
[01:37] <fluvvell> fixes can be quite easy
[01:37] <eppa> tgp1994: nah, what it'll be is some installed update has broken the kernel for use in AWS is all
[01:38] <eppa> maybe I need to 'hold back' the kernel update, was just hoping someone had encountered the same problem
[01:38]  * fluvvell   is so hungry he could eat his hand, better head off for some lunch
[01:39] <j3rg> hey anyone uses dreamcast emulator
[01:39] <j3rg> on Ubunru?
[01:40] <j3rg> lxdream to be specific
[01:40] <j3rg> Ubuntu*
[01:41] <undecim> How can I include a file in the initramfs?
[01:42] <ems> fluvvell, you dont know how happy you have made me
[01:43] <taget> Screen + Irssi is way cool, thanks for the help earlier
[01:47] <bstarek> hello guys, i have a couple files in a folder i want to delete but i cant. isnt the   chmod 777 folder     right command line?
[01:48] <ems> be right back
[01:51] <Cesar> What captcha? No such thing. :I
[01:51] <ems> #ubuntu-unregged (before i ID'd my nick)
[01:52] <thune3> bstarek: depends on what you want to do ultimately, to remove a few files I would just use sudo rm, being very careful.
[01:53] <bstarek> thune3, thanks, how about a non-empty folder?
[01:55] <thune3> bstarek: you want to remove everything including the folder? because I don't like to suggest recursive delete here as root, i would suggest changing all files in that dir to be owned by your user. chown -R bstarek:bstarek dirname , but that is only if you want to remove/change everything. Again, must be careful
[01:57] <bstarek> thune3, it is not a important folder dont worry :)
[01:57] <thune3> bstarek: sudo chown ..... and then you can delete as user
[01:57] <ems> guys how do i check if my sound is working
[01:57] <Scunizi> what command can I give on cli to find out what video driver is being used?
[01:57] <thune3> bstarek: i forgot the sudo
[01:57] <ems> any ideas?
[01:57] <bstarek> thune3, thank you
[02:01] <Eclectic>  I was looking at this laptop but I understand Ubuntu dosent play well with ATI TRUE or FALSE Toshiba Satellite L675D-S7013
[02:01] <The_Paco> Lucid Lynx seems to be killing my laptop's dvd-rom a minute or so after boot. If I reboot without powering off, even the BIOS doesn't seem to see it. Completely shutting down and restarting works. Just did some stress testing of it under Vista, works fine. Anyone know where I could start searching for help/info?
[02:03] <ems> Are there any Instant Message programs that can support webcam through the AIM protocal ?
[02:03] <tensorpudding> Eclectic: I know plenty of people who use Ubuntu with ATi.
[02:04] <Eclectic> tensorpudding: ok worth a try
[02:04] <fluvvell> ems, ubuntu is a good place to be ;-)
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> ems: gyache can
[02:04] <Guest34371> quick question: just got new ipod touch, with 4.1 installed. ubuntu 10.04 doesn't recognize it. should it?
[02:04] <scj> Scunizi: lspci -k | sed -n '/VGA/,/modules/p'
[02:04] <The_Paco> Note that my dvdrom when it stops working stops responding completely, button doesn't work, can't be found on dev/sc0 where it previously was, etc, no lights, no power
[02:04] <fluvvell> The_Paco, /dev/sr0  ?
[02:05] <The_Paco> sr0, too
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-your-iphoneipod-touch-with-ubuntu/
[02:05] <harovali> hi , I have a 9.10 system whose root partition needs manual recover. I'm on the phone with the user, who finds in trouble to press a key precisely in the very short span when the "GRUB Loading" message shows. I'd like the span to be longer, but what I'd need the most right now is a "deterministic" key sequence that shows the GRUB menu depending as little as posible on the short span there given. Has  anyone had to deal with
[02:05] <ems> fluvvell, yes. except i dont wanna go read it on the internet, i want a book to learn linux. any good ones you recommend?>
[02:05] <acovrig> how do I background apps, then send cmds to the app from a different terminal
[02:05] <tensorpudding> harovali: i think holding the shift key should do it
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> harovali: if its grub2, hold shift and you will see the grub2 menu
[02:06] <tensorpudding> harovali: so long as the bios doesn't use the shift key
[02:06] <fluvvell> ems, whats you're previous experience and what kind of proficiency are you after ?
[02:06] <harovali> tensorpudding: ActionParsnip: thanks , I'll try
[02:06] <ems> fluvvell, 0 experience. haha, i shouldnt say that outloud. and the profciency day to day without having to go to windows to do anything except play my games
[02:07] <The_Paco> it doesn't mount or recognize, trying to force mount results in a 30-second delay and unknown device error
[02:07] <ems> fluvvell, web hosting
[02:07] <ems> fluvvell, if i had a preference
[02:07] <Guest34371> so is that a "no" on the ipod touch syncing? isn't 10.04 supposed to sync "out of the box"? isnt that what everybody is saying?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> ems: i'd just use the OS for now, get used to it
[02:08] <fluvvell> ems, thats in the deep end. ;-)
[02:08] <ems> ActionParsnip, gyache isnt in the software manager. should i aptitude for it?
[02:08] <ems> fluvvell,  oh damn well im a newbie lol
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: i always advise that link, seems to make ipod work nice. Not tested it as I am not an iSheep
[02:08] <ems> fluvvell,  i dont even know how to use grep hehe
[02:08] <The_Paco> I try to hdparm -I /dev/sr0 and get "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid exchange"
[02:09] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: an iSheep heh :) :D
[02:09] <fluvvell> ems, its not too hard to get a web page
[02:09] <The_Paco> iCount iSheep iSleep
[02:10] <fluvvell> ems, grep is very cool. It looks for things within files or output streams. For the geekier linux stuff there are o'rielly books that are pretty mean.
[02:10] <ZekeS> ... ok, now for my stupid question: mplayer w/ SMplayer suffers quite a bit of frame skip playing HD video, even with VDPAU enabled.  (works fine in Windows) - what sorta things can I do to try to fix it? :|
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: they are rubbish, but people wjo like shiny over functionality buy them. What can I say
[02:10] <ZekeS> ems: command_that_outputs | grep foo
[02:11] <Guest34371> yeah, actionparsnip: that link is for older ubuntu
[02:11] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the Apple vender lock in is rather strong, just like Microsoft,  and yeah stuff from cowen would be more  Desktop Linux friendly, since the open formats and so on
[02:11] <fluvvell> hey irc channel -  whats the best ubuntu paperback book around?
[02:12] <Izinucs> !manual | fluvvell
[02:12] <Izinucs> fluvvell: it's free
[02:12] <fluvvell> he he. Thanks Izinucs, I've heard of it too :-)
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: Banshee can proably sync your Ipod
[02:13] <Guest34371> ok?
[02:13] <The_Paco> I guess my question should be where should I submit a bug-report and what would they want in it to get an idea of what's going on? This is a driver/kernel issue I'm thinking.
[02:13] <fluvvell> ems, do you have a laser printer ?
[02:13] <Paddy_NI> fluvvell, If you are looking for something more in-depth I would recommend asking on the forums to get a good general poll
[02:13] <undecim> How can I include a specific file in the initrd?
[02:13] <Guest34371> sebsebseb: installing now...
[02:13] <Izinucs> The_Paco: how do you know .. what package was effected?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: also in the future it is a good idea when using Desktop Linux in particular to buy players that support open formats and that are also Linux distro friendly such as,  what cowen sell
[02:13] <Guest34371> what is cowen?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: thats all I got. I'd just add the PPA and update what is offered.
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: a company who sell good players, that work well with Desktop Linux :)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> it's cowon ;)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: did you buy the ipod yourself?
[02:14] <Guest34371> i just wanted something to read books on and do some light internet
[02:14] <ZekeS> http://www.jetaudio.com/
[02:14] <Guest34371> music is secondary but yeah i listen to audio books too
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: ah yes ebooks, they have stuff for that even,  if I remember correctly, been a while since I looked at their site
[02:15] <fluvvell> ActionParsnip, do you know how to unbreak an ipod touch I told lucid to initialise (new)
[02:15] <Guest34371> ipod touch seemed like the perfect fit. nice interface, nice screen, nice price; i just need to dump some files on it from linux without booting up the windows bullshit
[02:15] <ems> fluvvell, might you know how to check if my sound is working. Apparently it is not.
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: Apple stuff doesn't always just work with Linux distros, because Apple doesn't support them
[02:15] <The_Paco> Izinucs: The dvd-rom completely stops working/responding within a minute or two of ubuntu accessing/mounting it.  Restart means the bios won't find it. I'm running vista dualboot and it has no problems like it, I just got done testing it over there.
[02:15] <Izinucs> The_Paco: file bugs directly on launchpad.(net? org?)
[02:16] <ems> ActionParsnip, gyache isnt in the software manager. should i aptitude for it?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: as far as I know you can have a Touch working, but might have to do something first, before it works
[02:16] <The_Paco> kay, thanks
[02:16] <NOMADICUS> I am just wondering what this will look like after I send it.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> ems: its not ni the repo but there are repos for it, or you can compile
[02:16] <The_Paco> I'll idle here a bit, try to soak up some experience thru osmosis.... plus I'll probably also have questions there too
[02:16] <Izinucs> The_Paco: yea.. check launchpad and search for your model.. you could also search on ubuntuforums.org by your model cd/dvd and see if there are issues with it.
[02:16] <Guest34371> sebsebseb: from all the docs it looks like it is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody mentions the 4.1 ios that just came out. i think 4.1 broke all the syncing software
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: sure but its made by one of the most shortsighted, ignorant companys around (Apple inc.)
[02:16] <fluvvell> ems, try sound preferences, you might find its muted.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: ah right yeah bingo
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: thats probably it
[02:17] <The_Paco> Izinucs, will do. bbiab
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: used to work, untill Apple broke the support
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: that was expected though, that they would eventually brake the support
[02:17] <ems> lol fluvvell . you're flawless tonight
[02:18] <Guest34371> sebsebseb: i'm just trying to confirm that that is what happened
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: Apple support Mac OS X, and sometimes Windows,  and they don't really care about other OS's, even though Mac OS X was based on FreeBSD
[02:18] <ems> ActionParsnip, well if im a newbie at this, i wont even attempt to compilelol
[02:19] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: may be able to run a Windows virtual machine, and use Itunes in that for it
[02:19] <Guest34371> yeah i know steve jobs is a dick, blah blah blah. but i also know the linux guys outsmart them all and eventually everything works just fine
[02:20]  * ZekeS resumes beating mplayer w/ a sledgehammer
[02:20] <ems> ah. ppa is just like aptitude for debian
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> ems: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html   has a directory for Lucid too
[02:20] <ems> same thing i think
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> ems: no, a ppa is a 3rd party repo
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> ems: you can install apps off of a ppa using aptitude
[02:21] <ZekeS> or synaptic for that matter
[02:21] <gdb> Mac OS X isn't based on FreeBSD.
[02:21] <fluvvell> ems, ubuntu has all debian commands
[02:21] <sebsebseb> gdb: no? well loads of people say it is
[02:21] <gdb> Nope, it sure wasn't.
[02:22] <tensorpudding> It has borrowed some FreeBSD code, but it's not based on FreeBSD
[02:22] <Guest34371> it was originally a MACH microkernel with BSD shit on top of that
[02:22] <gdb> Mac OS X is based on NeXTSTEP, the kernel is mach, and some portions of the userland come from FreeBSD, other parts from NetBSD.
[02:22] <ems> ActionParsnip, I got it all except: sudo apt-get install gyachi (result: couldnt find package gyachi)
[02:22] <tensorpudding> NeXTSTEP borrowed from 4.3 BSD and Mach, with a lot of brand new stuff on top
[02:22] <IdleOne> Guest34371: Please keep the language clean
[02:22] <gdb> Interestingly enough, the operating system on the Apple Time Capsule *is* NetBSD.
[02:22] <gdb> What tensorpudding said. ;-)
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> ems: did you run: sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <tensorpudding> For instance, the widget and graphics stuff is completely unique.
[02:23] <ems> ActionParsnip,  correct
[02:23] <Guest34371> IdleOne: what is clean? I'm not a native speaker sorry I don't know your customs
[02:23] <gdb> Now I can understand FreeBSD and/or FOSS fans taking some pride in having some of their work in Mac OS X, but it wasn't based on FreeBSD.  Anyway, this is all terribly off topic, but I find the power of this myth interesting.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> ems: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466864
[02:24] <ems> well now that i am not slower then 5 turtles. i can go tosites
[02:24] <ems> one second
[02:24] <IdleOne> Guest34371: words like shit and other swear words are not acceptable in Ubuntu irc channels
[02:25] <Guest34371> for the record, whoever suggested banshee: no it does not recognize the ipud
[02:25] <The_Paco> ah HA
[02:25] <psusi> hehe, OSX is based on freebsd the way windows NT is based on VMS... which is to say, not really at all... yet for some reason often is described as such
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: I think it might have some  kind of config or another program, might have to just use Windows in a vm for it or something
[02:25] <marvin> vms?
[02:25] <peepsalot> where can i find the md5 sums for the iso images?
[02:26] <gp5st_> i have an eeePC running netbook remix.  The wirless icon in the top bar has a red exclamation point , and when clicked just says networking disabled. any ideas of how to fix this? the led for the wireless is on. when plugged in it doesn't seem to get a dhcp addy either
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: uh above, might work  after some kind of config,
[02:26] <Izinucs> The_Paco: ah ha?  did you find an answer?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marvin: Virtual machines :)
[02:26] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | peepsalot
[02:26] <marvin> thanks
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marvin: lets you run an OS inside an OS
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marvin: for example you could run Windows inside Ubuntu, and it would work fine for most apps, 3D games for example would be an issue though
[02:26] <peepsalot> thanks Jordan_U
[02:26] <gp5st> sorry got kicked on that computer, on another now
[02:27] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: You're welcome.
[02:27] <The_Paco> Izinucs,  asus runs the dvdrom on my model laptop in an enhanced RAID-capable/emulated design. I can set to a standard IDE-style emulation in the BIOS and that SHOULD work... about to test
[02:27] <gp5st> i really can't find a way to enable networking.  ifup doesn't know about an eth0 or en0 interface:-\
[02:27] <rypervenche> gp5st: which eeePC is it?
[02:27] <tensorpudding> Virtualized hardware is limited, unfortunately.
[02:27] <peepsalot> last attempt to burn the image failed.  i guess i'll just try again.
[02:27] <marvin> yea i've been trying to get wine working for a while
[02:27] <psusi> no, not V.M. pl, VMS was an old unix like OS
[02:27] <marvin> no luck
[02:27] <gp5st> rypervenche 1005HAB
[02:27] <sebsebseb> marvin: oh right what you trying to run in Wine?
[02:28] <Izinucs> The_Paco: cool.. glad you found an answer
[02:28] <marvin> homeworld
[02:28] <rypervenche> gp5st: how long have you been using Ubuntu on it?
[02:28] <The_Paco> fyi Izinucs it's a G50VT if anyone else comes in with this problem, but it's a relatively rare system. Was overshadowed by eeepc's
[02:28] <sebsebseb> marvin: a game?
[02:28] <marvin> rts game
[02:28] <marvin>  old
[02:28] <The_Paco> brb, rebooting
[02:28] <sebsebseb> marvin: ok so 2D?
[02:28] <psusi> MS then hired one of its principal architects to design winnt
[02:28] <gp5st> rypervenche: i installed it a few months ago, used it, and it sat for a while, and now i'm using it again
[02:28] <marvin> no 3d space combat
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marvin: ok  well 3D games, well good luck getting them working in Wine as well, not just vm's
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marvin: I mean Wnidows games
[02:29] <gp5st> rypervenche: it's 10.04 in /etc/issue
[02:29] <tensorpudding> virtual machines don't get native graphics hardware access, so they'll be terribly slow
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !info playonlinux
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marvin: playonlinux might help some how, but probably not quite
[02:29] <marvin> hmm... what about java?
[02:30] <tensorpudding> Is Cedega still around?
[02:30] <ems> ActionParsnip, they dont have it for 32bit :(
[02:30] <tensorpudding> You might consider that if you really want to game on Linux
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: indeed, its not free in any way
[02:30] <sebsebseb> tensorpudding: yep and Codeweavers Crossover games, those are meant to be bought though
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> ems: dig around, you'll find something
[02:30] <marvin> cedega?
[02:30] <tensorpudding> !java | marvin
[02:30] <rypervenche> gp5st: Check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Asus%20Eee%20PC%201005HA
[02:30] <sebsebseb> marvin: yeah there are paid for versions of Wine basicalley
[02:30] <ems> ActionParsnip, ok but before i begin. will it work for AIM the webcam?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> marvin: that can be better sometimes
[02:31] <tensorpudding> Cedega is a pay service that provides a special version of Wine that supposedly works a lot better with games
[02:31]  * ZekeS burns his Ubuntu media playback >:(
[02:31] <marvin> ah
[02:31] <sebsebseb> marvin: also Codeweavers Crossover Games is paid for, but meant to work better with games
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> marvin: cedega is a paid for wine equivelant and its not bad, if it suits your needs then shell out for it
[02:31] <gp5st> rypervenche: i can't install anything since i don't have a network
[02:31] <sebsebseb> marvin: and theres a Codweavers Crossover Linux that can also run games
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> ems: aim, i thought you said yahoo. not sure about aim
[02:32] <marvin> interesting
[02:32] <gp5st> rypervenche: i guess i could find a deb and install it off removable media, i hate doing that because of dependencies:-\ maybe i should reboot it a few times and see if i can connect and then install it?
[02:33] <marvin> what else is wine bad at?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> marvin: Wine is a great program, but
[02:33] <gp5st> marvin: being an emulator :: ducks ::
[02:33] <sebsebseb> marvin: the program support it has has been reverse enginnered
[02:33] <sebsebseb> gp5st: if you mean the Wine is not an emulater thing, marvin won't understand that yet
[02:33] <gp5st> oh, sorry:(
[02:33] <sebsebseb> gp5st: and now i'll explain it
[02:33] <marvin> i read up on that already
[02:34] <sebsebseb> marvin: the developers of Wine call it a compatability layour,  so yeah they say WIne is not an emulator
[02:34] <rypervenche> Oh gp5st
[02:34] <sebsebseb> marvin: also the program support Wine has, has been reverse enginnered,  so thats very impressive
[02:34] <sebsebseb> marvin: however as a result, it means loads of Windows apps still won't just work properly with it
[02:34] <rypervenche> gp5st: You mean you can't update anything since the driver isn't working for wifi?
[02:34] <renedox> fluvvell: ems went afk - i'm at work - but congratulations on getting the problem fixed :D
[02:35] <sebsebseb> marvin: and  put simpally they can't just support Windows apps 100% properly, because of Microsoft
[02:35] <gp5st> rypervenche: yes, and wired networking seems to not be working either
[02:35] <ems> renedox, i am not afk just getting angry again hehe. and thank you!
[02:35] <marvin> i'm self taught so expect big gaps
[02:35] <renedox> ems: sorry, I went afk
[02:35] <rypervenche> gp5st: Hmmm...you need to use a wired network to be able to install the driver for your wireless card.
[02:35] <sebsebseb> marvin: so its luck really, when an app works well in Wine, without needing to be configured to first
[02:35] <Paddy_NI> sebsebseb, They do a damn good job though I think they get way to much negativity
[02:35] <ems> renedox,  no proble
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Paddy_NI: indeed
[02:36] <fluvvell> ems, try empathy an all in one instant messaging client
[02:36] <marvin> luck? wonderful
[02:36] <gp5st> rypervenche: well, it worked before...and i havn't updated it since. if it's flakey sure. it's also possible the wired networking is a local issue (sometime between last month and next month dhcp support was due to be cancled in favour of registered computers)
[02:37] <ems> fluvvell,  ya they all have video but not for aim. hehe. i am sol and so is family
[02:37] <edbian> marvin, Yes but it's skill when any app you want works well in Wine
[02:37] <gp5st> i was hoping to get love on the wirless
[02:38] <fluvvell> renedox, thanksems, sol ?
[02:38] <fluvvell> ems, sol ?
[02:38] <ems> fluvvell, s*** out of luck
[02:38] <sebsebseb> marvin: when a program works well in Wine, that is useually, because the developers of Wine, have put a lot of work into making that program work well in it
[02:38] <fluvvell> ems, I have skype working happily for vid chat - but don't use aim -
[02:39] <The_Paco> back, DVD-Rom appears to be working, yay.
[02:39] <Firefishe> I have a laptop with an external slide-type switch for the wi-fi.  I'm running ubuntu 10.04.  When I boot up, if the switch isn't in the ON position, I can't get the nm-applet to initialize the radio.  Is there a way to initialize the wi-fi radio without having to reboot the entire computer?
[02:39] <marvin> any advice on configuring programs
[02:39] <marvin> ?
[02:39] <rypervenche> gp5st: Yeah, sorry I can't help anymore than that.
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: rmmod then modprobe the driver module
[02:39] <sebsebseb> marvin: also really LInux distros are meant to replace something called Unix not Windows, but now days for many they can replace Windows as well, depending on what they want to do on a computer, but  loads of people will still keep WIndows around as well, because of apps they want
[02:39] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[02:40] <sebsebseb> marvin: as for configuring programs, I have tried before, and sadly it is not an easy thing to do for Wine
[02:40] <gp5st> ryervenche: it's ok, thanks for trying:)
[02:40] <disappearedng_> how come ubuntu keeps asking me to upgrade aka "partial upgrade" when 10.10 is not even out yet? I am on 10.04 lucid
[02:40] <sebsebseb> marvin: hence why I would useaully if I wnat a Windows app and Wine didn't work,  virtual machine of WIndows, or pshyical install of Windows
[02:40] <The_Paco> I plan to keep my windows in a virtualbox when I feel comfortable with linux :D, easy-peasy if it works
[02:40] <fluvvell> ems, apart from the o'rielly book on apache webserver,  and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html    -  there are probably heaps of books but the web pages give the low down on ubuntu specifics.
[02:40] <marvin> i just have it on my netbook
[02:40] <sebsebseb> disappearedng_: thats not abou 10.10
[02:40] <sebsebseb> disappearedng_: thats just saying that it coudn't install all the updates for some reason,  should do those later though
[02:41] <acovrig> I can't add myself to the audio group, why?
[02:41] <disappearedng_> how should I go about fixing it ?
[02:41] <marvin> so no big loss
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> disappearedng_: 10.10 beta is out. Partial upgrades are not advised nor supported
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !wine | marvin
[02:41] <disappearedng_> then how do I tell it to stop bugging me
[02:41] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the second part what?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: it will say about partial upgrade, when can't install all the security updates from the repo
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: partial upgrades are not advised as yuo can break your OS
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> !partial
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> hmm, though
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> thought she did
[02:42] <TuxOtaku> I'm having some trouble with a USB bluetooth dongle. lsusb reports it as follows:
[02:42] <TuxOtaku> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[02:43] <fluvvell> disappearedng_  , I think you'll find you havn't completed a previous upgrade
[02:43] <The_Paco> mavin: if the wine project is like it was a year and a half ago, if you're not proficient in linux, it's frustrating. Oracle Virtualbox is closed(ish) but free. I've been running distros in it inside windows for a while and am tonight starting/trying running an XP install inside ubuntu with it
[02:43] <acovrig> nevermind, I have to relogin ssh for group changes to show lol
[02:43] <TuxOtaku> I keep telling blueman to turn bluetooth on, but it just turns itself back off again
[02:43] <fluvvell> disappearedng_,   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade,   sudo apt-get --fix-missing,  sudo apt-get install -f
[02:43] <tensorpudding> There is an open-source version of VirtualBox
[02:44] <fluvvell> tensorpudding, and its pretty crappy
[02:44] <tensorpudding> as well as the closed version which is available from Oracle.
[02:44] <The_Paco> I saw that in the apt-list... I was concerned it might suck... lol I guess I was right
[02:44] <marvin> familiar with v box for xboxes
[02:44] <fluvvell> the full one from oracle has an increasingly scary license, but it works really well
[02:44] <The_Paco> the oracle one was pretty easy, hardest part was finding an x64 build of it
[02:46] <marvin> ??
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | marvin
[02:47] <The_Paco> now all I need is a way to import all the radio stations from Radio?Sure! into Rhythmbox...
[02:47] <disappearedng_> ok I did fix-missing, but then when I open up update manager it still asks me to do partial upgrade (which I *don't* want to do)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> marvin: both versions are free as in price, it meant free as in freedom the bot facotid
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[02:48] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, please help me with this error: "serial8250: too much work for irq19" http://pastebin.com/stXTj3Ks
[02:48] <sebsebseb> marvin: Virtualbox would allow you to run Windows   inside Ubuntu
[02:48] <marvin> also an african philosophy
[02:48] <marvin> ubuntu
[02:48] <sebsebseb> marvin: with enough RAM  would work well for most stuff, not 3D games though.
[02:48] <sebsebseb> marvin: and yes about the Ubuntu name
[02:49] <marvin> curious about the other builds though
[02:50] <rsr> Gwibber decided not to start anymore
[02:50] <marvin> suse?
[02:50] <rsr> has anyis?one else experienced th
[02:51] <cgroza> Hello, I have a question: Is bash_login executed at startup?
[02:52] <cgroza> anyone
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> marvin: suse is a different distro but is still linux like ubuntu, linux general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: should be ran at login, not startup
[02:53] <cgroza> ActionParsnip, whats the difference?
[02:53] <The_Paco> no one has to be logged in when the computer starts?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: the startup stuff starts before the login screen. There is a list of use apps which run at logon too, the startup stuff runs as root
[02:54] <fluvvell> disappearedng_,  do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  It does *not* take you up to 10.10
[02:54] <fluvvell> disappearedng_,  do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  It does *not* take you up to 10.10
[02:54] <The_Paco> almost
[02:54] <disappearedng_> someone warns me of NOT dist-upgrading
[02:54] <cgroza> ActionParsnip,so if i have a script to be executed in there it would be run after i enter my password?
[02:55] <IdleOne> cgroza: this might explain a little more https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[02:55] <fluvvell> disappearedng_, they mean  dont do a    do-release-upgrade
[02:55] <neil_d> I am having trouble with my laptop and wi-fi... I had some smbfs mounts for my login in /etc/fstab  with the options "user=neil,password=xxx,uid=1000,gid=1000"  after login the wi-fi comes up (but not before).... then the system auto mount the smbfs partition (thats ok).... but when I turn the laptop OFF... at logout it seems that the wi-fi is disconected before the smbfs partition are unmounted... causing the computer to take an age to s
[02:55] <neil_d> hutdown... what can I do about this?
[02:55] <cgroza> IdleOne, Thanks
[02:56] <fluvvell> disappearedng_, if all your sources are still set to lucid, its not going anywhere towards meercat
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: if it needs root then add it to /etc/rc.local    above the exit 0 line. If its a command to run after login add a reference to it in System -> preferences -> Startup items
[02:56] <karbak> I ended up having to install Maverick (command line only) on a Thinkpad W510 using the alternate installer since the normal installer wouldn't complete booting.
[02:56] <acovrig> I have user1 logged into Ubuntu 9.04 in IceWM, how/can I use rawplay to play audio without /dev/dsp errors?
[02:56] <waaade> hi guys :)
[02:56] <karbak> I've installed the ubuntu-desktop meta-package .. but I still only have a vanilla Gnome install ...
[02:56] <disappearedng_> ok
[02:56] <acovrig> in other words, can I have 2 apps use /dev/dsp at the same time?
[02:57] <cgroza> ActionParsnip, no , it must be run as regular user. Thanks. You Helped me a lot.
[02:57] <karbak> Any idea what I need to install to get the standard Maverick desktop ?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: i have that too
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: no worries duder
[02:57] <karbak> A theme package ? Or something else ?
[02:57] <fluvvell> acovrig,  its pulseaudio that allows multiple apps to access the sound
[02:57] <IdleOne> !10.10 | karbak
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> karbak: maverick is offtopic here, #ubuntu+1 for maverick support
[02:57] <marvin> general linux chat?
[02:57] <acovrig> fluvvell: how do I use it in IceWM?
[02:57] <waaade> does anyone know where I can find more information on the dd command?  i saw something on the opensuse site about using it to create live CDs and i want to know more about how that works...
[02:57] <IdleOne> marvin: ##linux
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> marvin: could try #linux#
[02:57] <karbak> ubottu, ActionParsnip : Thanks for the pointer !
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> waaade: man dd
[02:58] <neil_d> ActionParsnip: it is a real pain... if you manually umount there is no problem.
[02:58] <fluvvell> acovrig,  its probably turned on in 9.04, which apps do you need at once - I seem to recall things were a bit sticky...
[02:58] <Richie086> http://bit.ly/b6J03X /quit
[02:58] <majorscurvy> hi all
[02:58] <watisdis> Since I've upgraded from karmic to lucid my transfers to USB drives have started to fail.. Large files never finish copying.. Smaller ones hang at the end but then finish
[02:58] <majorscurvy> i have a question about compiz/desktop effects if anyone has a second
[02:59] <acovrig> fluvvell: a standard login (not activly playing anything) and rawplay, `rawplay` returns 'could not open /dev/dsp for writing: Device or resource busy'
[02:59] <watisdis> I tried to copy a 175 mb avi file to my thumbdrive.. it's hanging at 169mb out of 175
[02:59] <NOMADICUS> I am trying to figure out how to install from svn.  I can't seem to find a proper tutorial.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[02:59] <IdleOne> majorscurvy: #compiz can help with compiz specific questions
[02:59] <watisdis> i tried googling for this but I couldn't figure anything out
[02:59] <waaade> man dd
[03:00] <watisdis> it's done this to a bunch of files, doesn't seem to matter if it's an external hard drive or thumbdrive, everything hangs
[03:00] <watisdis> usb mouse freezes up too
[03:01] <watisdis> have to force reboot
[03:01] <waaade> ActionParsnip, sorry about that
[03:01] <fluvvell> acovrig, heard of but not used rawplay.  What about mpg321 ? its console based
[03:01] <waaade> ActionParsnip, it's been awhile since I used irc...
[03:01] <acovrig> fluvvell: lol, just realized mpg123 and mpg321 are the same program
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> waaade: np man
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> waaade: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:02] <waaade> honestly, i'm just curious about the way it works and what kinds of things you might use it for
[03:03] <fluvvell> waade, to completely wipe your hard drive lol
[03:03] <fluvvell> waade, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[03:03] <crucialhoax> is there a reason why startup disk creator wont install Fedora on a flash drive?
[03:03] <fluvvell> acovrig, yeah
[03:03] <IdleOne> crucialhoax: many have better results with unetbootin
[03:03] <ems> Is there a way I could minimize these tabs on the bottom to my taskbar? and then minimize them again to the task bar when I am done with the programor no?
[03:04] <TurtleSoup> "unrecognised disk label" when trying to use gparted on a 2TB disk. Ideas?
[03:04] <plouffe> How can I install w32codecs? And what else is needed to play DVDs on ubuntu?
[03:04] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: Didnt work either..
[03:04] <waaade> fluvvell, perfect!  exactly what i was looking for
[03:04] <IdleOne> crucialhoax: :/ got me
[03:04] <xangua> !medibuntu
[03:04] <xangua> plouffe: you need libdvdcss2, you can get if from medibuntu
[03:04] <fluvvell> waade, but its better at reading a cd than writing.
[03:04] <ems> plouffe, relieve your headaches. download VLC
[03:04] <neil_d> is there a way to get the wi-fi to connect at bootup not after login?
[03:04] <ems> plouffe, it should be in the software manager
[03:04] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: I even followed `dd` instructions, still a no go
[03:04] <plouffe> ems , VLC doesn't play my DVDs either
[03:04] <waaade> thanks guys
[03:04] <ems> plouffe, well it should
[03:05] <ems> plouffe, weird. sorry man i cant be more help
[03:05] <fluvvell> waade, I'd make an iso then use brassero to write it
[03:05] <IdleOne> crucialhoax: try asking in a fedora channel ?
[03:05] <Kane_hart> wait wait am I running 32bit java >.< java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:05] <Kane_hart> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.6) (rhel-1.13.b16.el5-i386)
[03:05] <Kane_hart> OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)
[03:05] <TurtleSoup> Nevermind. Problem solved.
[03:05] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: Ha, I was gonna but the software is ubuntu based...
[03:05] <IdleOne> plouffe: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:06] <plouffe> IdleOne, yes have that one
[03:06] <DAGr8> hi
[03:06] <davefromcamp> does anyone know where a good mpd help place is? or can anyone help me?
[03:06] <DAGr8> whats the diffrence between mount -o bind and mount --bind ?
[03:07] <dku> Hi all! I'm running Lucid, how can I get the microphone input to play through the speakers as well?
[03:08]  * scott_ino loves how many people are still in ubuntu-unregged
[03:08] <IdleOne> DAGr8: I believe they are the exact same command, -o == option
[03:08] <watisdis> Lucid is seriously pissing me off, going to go back to karmic
[03:08] <renedox> davefromcamp: what's your problem with mpd?
[03:08] <DAGr8> IdleOne why is that non t working then ? http://pastebin.com/mnJb15LW
[03:08] <watisdis> would have thought by now things would be working in this release
[03:09] <Kane_hart> hello
[03:09] <tensorpudding> watisdis: what's broken?
[03:09] <watisdis> i'll repeat myself
[03:09] <watisdis> Since I've upgraded from karmic to lucid my transfers to USB drives have started to fail.. Large files never finish copying.. Smaller ones hang at the end but then finish
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> watisdis: karmic is equally supported waaay into next year
[03:09] <Kane_hart> Does this mean im running 32bit java? java version "1.6.0_0"  OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.6) (rhel-1.13.b16.el5-i386)  OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)
[03:09] <watisdis> it's done this to a bunch of files, doesn't seem to matter if it's an external hard drive or thumbdrive, everything hangs
[03:09] <scott_ino> is there a way to disable my volume control in notification area, It's already in indicator applet
[03:09] <watisdis> usb mouse freezes up too
[03:09] <majorscurvy> i still have jaunty lol
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> majorscurvy: jaunty dies next month
[03:10] <IdleOne> DAGr8: no idea, make sure there is no typo in the path
[03:10] <watisdis> i should have never upgraded...
[03:10] <renedox> watisdis: could it be your usb ports that are failing?
[03:10] <majorscurvy> i know lol, i have a wubi install so i have not gotten around to upgrading, Lucid won't install on my system
[03:10] <DAGr8> or rather IdleOne why is this not being mounted then ? http://pastebin.com/mnJb15LW
[03:10] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: are you running x86_64 Ubuntu?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> watisdis: fine, can you cease spamming the channel
[03:10] <watisdis> I guess.. I've never had that happen before though
[03:10] <majorscurvy> gotta go, bye all
[03:10] <DAGr8> ok sorry for repeating
[03:10] <renedox> watisdis: doesn't mean it'll never happen
[03:10] <watisdis> I was answering tensorpudding, he asked what is wrong
[03:11] <acovrig> fluvvell: yea, rawplay is the culprit, not /dev/dsp; mpg123 works fine, but rawplay doesn't, I tried `mpg123 -s *mp3|mpg123` and doesn't work so I tried `mpg123 -s *mp3|aplay` and got sound, but not the right thing
[03:11] <crucialhoax> watisdis: Try booting a livecd of a different distro and see if it does the same thing
[03:11] <watisdis> I have karmic still on a cd, I'll try that
[03:11] <IdleOne> DAGr8: same link but again I have no idea.
[03:11] <Kane_hart> tensorpudding yes I am
[03:11] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: and you installed Java through the software center?
[03:11] <crucialhoax> watisdis: If it does the same thing I might propose usb ports failing. stuff happens dude
[03:11] <Kane_hart> I use ssh and not sure what I did <3
[03:12] <DAGr8> yea IdleOne sorry for repeating
[03:12] <IdleOne> DAGr8: no worries
[03:12] <Kane_hart> I wonder what performance im missing besides just the ram increase :S
[03:12] <watisdis> not too big a deal cuz this pc sucks :)
[03:12] <DAGr8> IdleOne if no typo this should mount right ?
[03:12] <watisdis> thanks
[03:13] <IdleOne> DAGr8: looks right
[03:13] <kkkkkkkkk> hello
[03:13] <DAGr8> IdleOne I m not missing any chmod
[03:13] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: you're using 64-bit Java then
[03:13] <julio> hi, i'm having trouble using wireless BCM4322(sta) <--> WRT54G
[03:13] <kkkkkkkkk> how do I install AcetoneISO?
[03:13] <Kane_hart> tensorpudding how can you tell?
[03:13] <julio> i'm not able tu use it
[03:13] <kkkkkkkkk> how do I install it is what i'm asking
[03:13] <julio> does anyone have similar issues or ideas to solve this?
[03:14] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: because the packages will use the 64-bit version
[03:14] <imperfect-> Anyone know of anything like gkrellm that looks a little more modern?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkkkk: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images-using-acetoneiso-gui-tool.html#more-213
[03:14] <julio> kkkkkkkkk, in a terminal do... sodu aptitude install acetoneiso
[03:14] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: if you absolutely want to be sure, what does 'file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac' return
[03:14] <Kane_hart> tensorpudding I don't think I did it by package hehe is there no way to actually tell for sure?
[03:15] <julio> kkkkkkkkk, sudo*
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkkkk: found that in 2 seconds, literally
[03:15] <Kane_hart> ./usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac' (No such file or directory)
[03:15] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: Are you sure you have OpenJDK's Java 6 installed?
[03:15] <IdleOne> DAGr8: you might need to chmod +x switch.sh but it shouldn't run until mounted. I feel like I might be wasting your time here.
[03:15] <Kane_hart> I'm running a big scalled game server thats written only in java with 50 people on it
[03:15] <Kane_hart> lol
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: wait a minute
[03:16] <Kane_hart> omg wait
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: that thing was compiled for RHEL
[03:16] <Kane_hart> wrrrong ssh window :S
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: also it is 32-bit
[03:16] <Kane_hart> im a idiot haha
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: You should install OpenJDK from the packages if it's the Java you want to use
[03:17] <Kane_hart> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode
[03:17] <Kane_hart> java version "1.6.0_20"   Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
[03:17] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: oh, that's Sun's Java there.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> all the stuff you do iin acetoniso you can get nautilus scripts for
[03:17] <Kane_hart> what jave performance the best
[03:17] <Kane_hart> I was told the sun one
[03:17] <tensorpudding> The Sun one is the officialest one.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkkkk: is it working ok?
[03:18] <Kane_hart> the software I use sucks a lot of resources
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: its the cl;osed source proprietary one, thats all
[03:18] <Kane_hart> I pretty much die to tweak it to the best of its abilitity
[03:18] <tensorpudding> It's the one the vast majority of people use.
[03:18] <kkkkkkkkk> I'm trying the code right now
[03:18] <kkkkkkkkk> Thank you everyone, i'm trying now
[03:18] <kkkkkkkkk> will let you know
[03:18] <Kane_hart> and the one you use is called?
[03:18] <tensorpudding> At least, those targetting desktop Java.
[03:19] <Kane_hart> this is a server enviroment
[03:19] <tensorpudding> OpenJDK is an open-source version of the Java runtime that has some Sun parts and some open parts.
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: there are open javas available too, they are just made by a different company
[03:19] <abhijit> hi
[03:19] <Blue1> tensorpudding: c/Sun Parts/Sun don't shine Parts/
[03:19] <afeijo> hi guys, resolution problem here... I just installed ubuntu 10.04 in a philco notebook, and the higher res is 800x600, its a wide screen, how to fix it?
[03:20] <Blue1> abhijit: howdy tex
[03:20] <tensorpudding> If you don't mind the restrictions of Oracle/Sun's license you should use the Sun one.
[03:20] <crucialhoax> Acer 532h Netbook randomly notifies me that the battery is discharged, any fixes?
[03:20] <abhijit> Blue1, good! :)
[03:21] <Blue1> afeijo: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=325
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: unplug the power then push it back in
[03:22] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Huh? It does it constantly but randomly. I tried a proposed fix to no avail
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: log a bug then is all i can suggest, check hardware first though
[03:25] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: As embarrassing as it may be, I dont know how, never done it before..
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> !bug | crucialhoax
[03:25] <jk__> !nick
[03:26] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Cool, thanks. One more question, would the package be gnome-power-manager?
[03:26] <jk__> !register
[03:26] <afeijo> didnt work
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: hmm, makes sense. If its wront the admins will move it
[03:26] <Tinman_usa> ok, my Ubuntu cant detect wifi after I used "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-server"
[03:26] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Alright.
[03:26] <Tinman_usa> please help
[03:26] <afeijo> I try with xrandr to fix my resolution, but I dont know the id to my video, it isnt LVS
[03:27] <afeijo> *LVDS
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Tinman_usa: remove the package maybe.
[03:28] <Tinman_usa> ActionParsnip, how do I remove it ? sudo apt-get uninstall ?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> Tinman_usa: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[03:29] <ems> Is there a way I could minimize these tabs on the bottom to my taskbar? and then minimize them again to the task bar when I am done with the programor no?
[03:29] <Tinman_usa> ActionParsnip, ok lemme reboot and check
[03:29] <afeijo> argh, 800x600 sux
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: my servers monitor only goes that high :)
[03:30] <afeijo> lol
[03:30] <Four2zero> hello everyone, i just setup a samba server for file shareing a specific directory, and i am able to access on one machine, but as for wireless access im not able to access the samba shared directory " Windows cannot access \\media-server\movie library" How can i trouble shoot this ?
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: what version windows is it?
[03:31] <Four2zero> windows 7
[03:31] <afeijo> my old 5 years notebook, all work fine and automatic... now this new notebook dont?? bah :)
[03:32] <Blue1> Four2zero: this article pointed to here:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=309  may help as always - -YMMV applies
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: thought so, you will need to run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and set the password the same as your logon. Win7 has a weird smb stack which authenticates diffrent to previous windows versions
[03:32] <abhijit> afeijo, old is gold
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: i also recommend you remove the space from the share name of the folder
[03:33] <kkkkkkkkk> will let you know
[03:33] <kkkkkkkkk> yes it worked actionparsnip
[03:33] <Four2zero> ActionParsnip i did that for one machine and access was good, but on another such as net book i will need to do same for all "3" other machines running windows ?
[03:33] <kkkkkkkkk> thank you julio and actionparsnip
[03:34] <afeijo> how can I check my video chipset?
[03:34] <toolbear> hello. how can one resolve a bsd-style partition table in ubuntu?
[03:34] <Blue1> afeijo: lspci | grep VGA
[03:34] <afeijo> thanks Blue1
[03:35] <afeijo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[03:35] <ems> Anyone know?
[03:35] <afeijo> is it a good one??
[03:35] <Blue1> afeijo: looks old
[03:35] <afeijo> really!??
[03:35] <abhijit> !hardware | afeijo
[03:35] <Blue1> afeijo: yeah pci video isn't exactly state o' the art
[03:36] <afeijo> damn
[03:36] <tensorpudding> it said PCIE
[03:36] <ZekeS> Blue1: PCIE is tho
[03:36] <afeijo> but winxp run fine here
[03:36] <tensorpudding> wouldn't that be PCI-Express?
[03:36] <tensorpudding> Windows XP is oooold.
[03:36] <Blue1> ZekeS: yes but pci ain't agp
[03:36] <Tinman_usa> using Ubuntu 8.04 wifi stoped working after installing  linux-restricted-modules-server, removed it, but wifi still not working
[03:36] <SubCool> hey- what Folder Browers will give folder sizes?
[03:36] <OriginalMVP> How do I install the Liquorix Kernel to Ubuntu? they have a nice tut here but I don't have debian http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/158
[03:37] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello is there a way to separate Amarok 2.3.1's widgets from context menu?
[03:37] <afeijo> winxp, from 2002, run video fine... ubuntu dont, I have no luck lol
[03:37] <Tinman_usa> please help
[03:37] <ZekeS> afeijo: maybe this will help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-sis-771671-mirage-3-video-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid.html
[03:37] <ZekeS> :D
[03:37] <Blue1> asdfasdfasdfasdf: not that I know of.  I have moved to guayadeque
[03:38] <ng0n> my windows BCD file configures Wubi incorrectly.
[03:38] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Blue1, ew no, i like amarok the most.
[03:38] <Tinman_usa> iwlist eth0 scan
[03:38] <Tinman_usa> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:38] <Blue1> asdfasdfasdfasdf: I needed an eq, and they stripped that from amarok.
[03:39] <ng0n> need help fixing a wubi boot from win 7.  anyone ?
[03:39]  * Blue1 is not the wubi guy, sorry
[03:39] <afeijo> ZekeS, ouch, that page has a invalid link for the driver... time for google
[03:39] <ng0n> perhaps i need to find #wubi.
[03:40] <ZekeS> afeijo: sorry I didnt check the link :|
[03:40] <ZekeS> Just the guide
[03:40] <ZekeS> looks fun ^^
[03:40] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Blue1, get a pro one. don't really thin amarok 1.4X eq was that great ^^, though yes it would be cool to put one down there, and add the possibility of moving buttons down too.
[03:40] <cklabe> I need help getting this USB VGA addapter to work for dual monitors.
[03:41] <cklabe> Could anyone help me?
[03:41] <ZekeS> err
[03:41] <Blue1> asdfasdfasdfasdf: you can check out guayadeque http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174  supposed to be standard issue in next 10.10
[03:41] <ZekeS> seems fine to me afeijo
[03:41] <ZekeS> http://estebanordano.com.ar/sis-m671m672-driver-for-xorg-xserver-7-5-on-debian-sidux/ and MegaUpload seems to be up
[03:41] <afeijo> zekes hey np, it helped! I found another site in portuguese... yay, downloaded and now I'll do the files cp
[03:41] <cklabe> I have searched and read and searched, and I cant seem to get any lead.
[03:41] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Blue1, nice but i'm not trying it ^^ though i appriciate =)
[03:42] <kneaux> i'm getting an error trying to install chrome in wine
[03:42] <ZekeS> Hmm, should I use Guayadeque or Exaile ...
[03:42] <kneaux> (i know there's a linux version now, i need it in wine so i can get adobe digital editions, so i can pirate books)
[03:43] <tensorpudding> kneaux: Maybe check out the appDB
[03:43] <rallias> how do i remedy the error of Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11.
[03:44] <j3rg> anyone does programming in here ....sepcifically for linux?
[03:44] <kneaux> tensorpudding: well i'm googling the answer (so meta) and apparently there's a standalone installer, i just can't figure out where the latest version is supposed to be :\
[03:44] <Ivanrad> hey all
[03:44] <tensorpudding> j3rg: you should probably check out one of the language-specific channels on freenode
[03:44] <Ivanrad> anyone familiar with wubi?
[03:44] <kneaux> the error i'm getting has to do with google being incapable of installing something from the file you actually download
[03:44] <j3rg> ok thanks tensorpudding
[03:44] <Ivanrad> ?
[03:45] <demonspork> how do I access a currently running "screen" instance of another user without originally initiating the login (via SSH) as that user. I can su as the user running the screen, but it says "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check."
[03:45] <frobisher> Ivanrad:windows ubuntu installer
[03:45] <Ivanrad> ya
[03:45] <Tinman_usa> please help, using Ubuntu 8.04 wifi stoped working after installing  linux-restricted-modules-server, removed it, but wifi still not working
[03:46] <Ivanrad> @frobisher so i have an ssd ZIF hooked up externally to my windows
[03:46] <rallias> Tinman_usa: try rightclicking the wifi icon
[03:46] <mast`> I have a bit of an issue after updating to Maverick. I'm using an ATI card with the propriatery drivers and after the first reboot I got stuck in text mode, so I purge'd the drivers and rebooted in safe mode then reinstalled the Ubuntu/maverick drivers downloaded from the ATI website but no luck. Anyone has an idea what to do?
[03:46] <Ivanrad> and im using wubi to install the netbook Os of ubuntu
[03:46] <Ivanrad> will this work
[03:46] <tensorpudding> !ubuntu+1 | mast`
[03:46] <mast`> okay thanks
[03:46] <Blue1> mast`:  you might want to /join #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 issues
[03:47] <Tinman_usa> rallias, huh ? it doesnt say anything, do I need to install ndiswarpper or something, the wifi suddenly stopped working after I installd that
[03:47] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: Wubi installs Ubuntu inside Windows
[03:47] <OriginalMVP> Anyone know how to put the Liquorix kernel on Ubuntu?
[03:47] <Ivanrad> no but i directed it to my SSD
[03:47] <Ivanrad> will that work?
[03:47] <ZekeS> It should be fine
[03:47] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: directed what?
[03:47] <rallias> tinman_usa: i am guessing you should try a system wide update
[03:47] <Ivanrad> the install of wubi to my SSD
[03:47] <ZekeS> Wubi creates the entire linux file system inside a container file
[03:47] <frobisher> Ivanrad: too complicated for me<I just go to the website and download it.
[03:47] <Tinman_usa> rallias, the new Ubuntu hang my system
[03:47] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: I guess it should be fine?
[03:47] <rallias> tinman_usa: or a dist-upgrade
[03:47] <ems> fluvvell, still around?
[03:47] <ZekeS> (don't delete that container)
[03:47] <ZekeS> (;)
[03:47] <Ivanrad> ya
[03:48] <Ivanrad> the comp will boot to the SSD
[03:48] <ng0n> anyone know how to edit BCD boot menu in Win 7 ?
[03:48] <rallias> tinman_usa: try try again
[03:48] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: There might be issues if you try booting without the SSD attached
[03:48] <Ivanrad> so im sure its installing it as an operating system
[03:48] <Ivanrad> it will be attached
[03:48] <tensorpudding> ng0n: there is a program EasyBCD which does it
[03:48] <kj4> i'm back to see how it goes here. been gone for long time
[03:48] <abhijit> !windows | ng0n
[03:48] <Tinman_usa> rallias, which system you using ?
[03:49] <rallias> tinman_usa: ubuntu 10.04.1
[03:49] <Blue1> Ivanrad: this is how I put a working ubuntu onto a flash drive:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[03:49] <Tinman_usa> rallias, ok this is the second time I am upgrading to that version, last time it froze my mouse, my graphics card and much more
[03:50] <rallias> is there any sensitive data on the machine?
[03:50] <Tinman_usa> rallias, even now it shows This computer is currently using the AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[03:50] <ng0n> tensorpudding.  tried that.  it's wubi entry doesn't call /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr
[03:50] <Ivanrad> so basically here is my situtation...i have an hp mini 1116nr .. i just got my runcoreSSD i connected the RUNCore ssd to my windows comp...and i opened WUBI and im installing ubuntu netbook onto the SSD.. my question is once its done installing the OS on the SSD will it boot up properly on the netbook
[03:50] <imperfect-> Is lmsensors the way to go to get cpu temp's and such?
[03:50] <ng0n> thanks use all.
[03:50] <rallias> tinman_usa: is there any sensitive data on the machine?
[03:50] <ng0n> will try # widows.  uggg.
[03:50] <Tinman_usa> rallias, no, I have all backup
[03:50] <afeijo> IT WORKED
[03:50] <rallias> tinman_usa: do you have a spare cd?
[03:50] <ZekeS> afeijo: nice!
[03:51] <afeijo> thanks ZekeS :D and all that msg me
[03:51] <Tinman_usa> rallias, you wnat me to do a fresh install ? I want 64 bit if possible I have 4 gig
[03:51] <|devicenull|> I'm trying to do a netinst, and I'm seeing "Installation step failed" while installing the base system.  console reports an error related to LIBDI_4.7 not found (related to archdetect)
[03:51] <|devicenull|> how exactly would I go about debugging that one? I'm not really sure where to start
[03:51] <rallias> tinman_usa: when was your computer built?
[03:51] <Ivanrad> ?
[03:51] <afeijo> its nice to have a bigger screen and 4gb against my old note that have 1 gb lol
[03:51] <Tinman_usa> rallias, its T60, few years ago I guess
[03:52] <Tinman_usa> Centrino duo laptop
[03:52] <Blue1> Ivanrad: it should since wubi runs UNDER windows
[03:52] <Ivanrad> ya but the netbook doesnt have any OS
[03:52] <rallias> tinman_usa http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[03:52] <Ivanrad> its just booting from the SSD
[03:53] <Blue1> Ivanrad: so explain to me once again, what it is you want to do, install wubi or install linux?
[03:53] <frobisher> Ivanrad: It would be doutful as there is isssues with Grub.
[03:53] <devicenull_> I found a debian bug related to it, nothing about it in ubuntu
[03:53] <Scunizi> How do I kill X .. sudo service gdm stop kills part of it.. but the nvidia binary compains something is still running.. logs show the pid but when I kill that gmd starts again..
[03:53] <Tinman_usa> rallias, whats wrong with 32 version of 10.04 ? it cant detect 4 gigs ?
[03:53] <Tinman_usa> 32bit
[03:53] <imbezol> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/partimage/download
[03:54] <rallias> tinman_usa you wanted it
[03:54] <tensorpudding> Nothing wrong with 32-bit Ubuntu.
[03:54] <Ivanrad> im installing ubuntu netbook remix from wubi onto my usb which is connected thru the USB of my other laptop.. when i put this SSD into the netbook will it work
[03:54] <ZekeS> Scunizi: enable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in System > Keyboard Shortcuts :3
[03:54] <imbezol> when i do a search i don't see partimage.. is it because it's i386 only?
[03:54] <v1valdi> 32bit cant detect more than 3.2gigs of ram
[03:54] <Ivanrad> Grub?
[03:54] <imperfect-> PAE bitches!
[03:54] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, does 64 bit Ubuntu run all 32 bit software ?
[03:54] <maco> !language | imperfect-
[03:54] <Blue1> Ivanrad: wow that's way more complicated.  I'd put ubuntu onto a flash drive, then boot the flash drive.
[03:54] <frobisher> Ivanrad Grand Unified Bootloader.
[03:55] <Scunizi> ZekeS: that just reboots gdm.. it doesn't stop X and only on older systems.  like you said you have to enable that key combination.. but .. it doesn't kill
[03:55] <Scunizi> X
[03:55] <ZekeS> ohhhh
[03:55] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: It can run 32-bit software if it has 32-bit libraries to go with them.
[03:55] <ZekeS> sry :|
[03:55] <Ivanrad> isnt wubi installing grub onto the SSD tho?
[03:55] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, so its better for me to keep it 32 bit ?
[03:55] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: 64-bit linux can read 32-bit ELFs just fine, but they have to be linked to 32-bit libraries
[03:55] <ZekeS> Ivanrad: Wubi is intended for you to dual boot Windows and Linux easily with minimum install fuss
[03:55] <Blue1> Ivanrad: wubi makes NO changes to the boot block
[03:55] <Ivanrad> fuk
[03:55] <ZekeS> It's NOT intended for any other purpose
[03:55] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, I think I like 32bit OS, so it will detect more than 3 gig RAM ?
[03:56] <Ivanrad> so what do u think i should do
[03:56] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: there might be problems with programs that have handcoded 32-bit assembler in them
[03:56] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, yes thats what I am thinking too
[03:56] <Blue1> ZekeS: incorrect - -wubi does NOT dual boot.  It runs under windows.  dual boot is somehing else.
[03:56] <rallias> Tinman_usa: only with a specially compiled kernal
[03:56] <v1valdi> if you want to use more than 3gigs of ram, use 64bit
[03:56] <ZekeS> Blue1: sorry, it's been a while since I used it >.>
[03:56]  * ZekeS hides
[03:56] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: I've only run into one program that just didn't work on 64-bit at all.
[03:56] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, should I reinstall 10.04 or upgrade 10.04 from 8.04 ?
[03:57] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: some proprietary software will have issues if it is old
[03:57] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: the 8.04 to 10.04 upgrade is well-documented, it should be fine
[03:57] <IdleOne> Grub?
[03:57] <Tinman_usa> ok here goes
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> hope I get my wifi back
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> or else I come after rallias
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> :D
[03:58] <Blue1> Tinman_usa: did you install a back port?
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> Blue1, whats that ?
[03:58] <wrektjet> hey all. im having some difficulties getting a router to play nice with 10.04. im using the pretty popular netgear wgr614 and it used to work fine before i moved, but since i got into my new place i have no luck. not sure what the problem is as ive followed all instructions for configuring eth0
[03:58] <ems> where would i be able to download drivers for my speakers to be able to work? any ideas.
[03:58] <Blue1> Tinman_usa: if you don't know what that is, then you didn't install it. nvm
[03:58] <ZekeS> Ivanrad: this link seems relevant to your interests: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-ubuntu-netbook-remix-10-04-on-flash-drive-in-windows/
[03:59] <ZekeS> :)
[03:59] <Blue1> ZekeS: yea that is a good link
[04:00] <frobisher> Ivanrad: too keep you're conversation going till someone figures this out,What input "S do you have Cdro,flash ,usb.
[04:00] <Ivanrad> i luv u
[04:00] <Ivanrad> thank you
[04:00] <Ivanrad> soo much
[04:01] <ems> So anyone ?
[04:03] <paulo> Hi, people. I am new to this Xubuntu and I'm having trouble with my 3G connection. It freezes after a random while/ or will it be data? The last time I had 23Mb download. How can I diagnose it?
[04:03] <afeijo> ouch, no visual effect works lol
[04:03] <wrektjet> does anyone have any idea why the wired conex would work but not when plugged in via the router?
[04:03] <ruffleS> hey guys maverick's new default wallpaper's been released http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TI_B7w4vI9I/AAAAAAAAB7Y/hgywOYAWBW4/s400/warty-final-ubuntu.jpg :d how'd ya like it?
[04:03] <Blue1> wrektjet: the router is not setup to supply dhcp?
[04:04] <devicenull_> how's the upgrade path from 10.04 -> 10.10? edit apt/sources.list && aptitude dist-upgrade?
[04:04] <tensorpudding> 10.10 isn't out yet
[04:04] <Blue1> devicenull_: I dont recommend upgrading, it is problematic.  backup /etc/ and /home/ and do a clean install followed by a restore
[04:05] <devicenull_> Blue1: if I could get netinst working on 10.10, that wouldnt be an issue
[04:05] <ruffleS> devicenull_, alt + f2 then type update-manager -cd
[04:05] <SpockVulcan> tensorpudding: it is in beta stage
[04:05] <wrektjet> blue1 well i was trying static ip to match the ipv6 settings i entered bia the networking tool
[04:05] <devicenull_> but as the installer dies when I try netinst, there's not much I can do except use 10.04 and upgrade
[04:06] <tensorpudding> devicenull_: try using a full install? where does the installer die?
[04:06] <Blue1> wrektjet: iirc ubuntu defaults to dhcp -- I use static dhcp reservations in my router via mac address so the same computer always gets the same ip.
[04:06] <devicenull_> can't use a full install, no CD drive.. have to do it via PXE
[04:06] <devicenull_> the installer dies at 'installing the base system'
[04:06] <IdleOne> !10.10
[04:07] <devicenull_> get an error in console with: LIBDI_4.7 not found (related to archdetect)
[04:07] <Blue1> devicenull_: I've only played with the 10.10 livecd so far it looks like, I'll be waiting a few more weeks
[04:07] <tensorpudding> devicenull_: what about USB?
[04:07] <devicenull_> don't have a USB drive available for it
[04:08] <wrektjet> blue1 well the mac address is set to that of this computer. still wont function. but even when set to dynamic it wont connect. sorta driving me nuts
[04:08] <tensorpudding> devicenull_: it might well be a problem with the PXE image
[04:08] <Blue1> devicenull_: you can create a install usb drive for ubuntu
[04:08] <devicenull_> Blue1: right, but I don't have the physical hardware to do that
[04:09] <Blue1> wrektjet: what type of router, and what software ru running?
[04:09] <devicenull_> tensorpudding: right, I'm gonna try the 10.04 netboot image and see what happens
[04:09] <Blue1> devicenull_: scotty's disease -- I don;t think I've got the pow'r
[04:09] <wrektjet> blue1 pretty mainstream netgear wgr614 and ubuntu 10.04
[04:10] <Blue1> wrektjet: no what software is the router running?
[04:11] <wrektjet> blue1 laterst firmware from netgear. no tomato or wtvr that stuff is called
[04:11] <fluvvell> ems, away then back again.
[04:11] <Blue1> wrektjet: so stock software then (supplied from the manufacturer?)
[04:11] <wrektjet> blue1 yes
[04:12] <ems> fluvvell,  ok. np. still having an issue here trying to find a instant msgr client that can handle aim webcam video
[04:12] <devicenull_> yea the 10.10 netboot stuff definitely isn't ready
[04:12] <Blue1> not fam. enough with that manu. anyone good with netgear router software?
[04:12] <devicenull_> the pxelinux.cfg/default file is just empty, leading to all sorts of cryptic errors
[04:12] <wrektjet> blue1 do u think a firmware update w/ some other software would help
[04:12] <acovrig> does anyone know of a rawplay alternative (rawplay doesn't work) I need to pipe raw audio and have an app play it (like `mpg123 -s *mp3|rawplay` but rawplay doesn't work for me)
[04:13] <Blue1> wrektjet: I am checking to see if dd-wrt would work on it atm
[04:14] <Ivanrad> ok universal usb installer didnt work
[04:14] <Blue1> wrektjet: looks like the site is down..
[04:14] <SubCool> hey- what Folder Browers will give folder sizes?
[04:14] <elijah> Is the partition manager the Kubuntu installer uses the same as Ubuntu?
[04:15] <elijah> SubCool: Good question, I would like to know that too.
[04:16] <devicenull_> well
[04:16] <SubCool> elijah, your answer, is yes. Kubunt is ubuntu- just with a KDE front
[04:16] <devicenull_> 10.04 netinst seems to be working
[04:16] <devicenull_> so something got broken in 10.10
[04:16] <Blue1> wrektjet: nope not wgr614 not supported by dd-wrt
[04:16] <SubCool> My system is telling me its full- and i dont know where to search to start deleting things, or resizing things.
[04:17] <glebihan> SubCool: use the disk usage analyser
[04:17] <tensorpudding> SubCool: what does df -h say
[04:17] <Blue1> SubCool: try du -hs *
[04:17] <elijah> SubCool: Great, do you know the name of the partition manager? I want to be able to access the GUI to shrink a partition in my Kubuntu install.
[04:17] <tensorpudding> elijah: try gparted
[04:17] <Ivanrad> can anyone help me install ubuntu netbook remix
[04:17] <Ivanrad> onto my SSD
[04:17] <davefromcamp> has anyone been successful in controling mpd over your network?
[04:18] <Ivanrad> with a bootable Grub
[04:18] <Gnea> Ivanrad: it won't install?
[04:18] <Blue1> Ivanrad: you'd need to create a bootable usb device you can do that off the livecd
[04:18] <tensorpudding> davefromcamp: what do you mean by "over your network"?
[04:18] <elijah> SubCool: My system ran out of space yesterday and the whole thing crashed, I suggest using apt-get clean to get rid of all downloaded packages
[04:18] <Ivanrad> i have a windows pc
[04:18] <Ivanrad> if i burned a live cd
[04:18] <Fudge> startup disk creator
[04:19] <davefromcamp> well I have the server running and my client on my mpd computer works fine
[04:19] <Ivanrad> booted from that... then selected the SSD would it install to it?
[04:19] <Blue1> Ivanrad: okay so what prevents you from booting the livecd disc?
[04:19] <Ivanrad> omg
[04:19] <davefromcamp> I want to play from my droid
[04:19] <ZekeS> Or the bootable flashdrive
[04:19] <Ivanrad> do u not understand....
[04:19] <ZekeS> for that matter
[04:19] <Ivanrad> I have a netbook .. i just took out the SSD
[04:19] <gstarx90> how to do i get docky to use a custom icon instead of the default?
[04:19] <tensorpudding> davefromcamp: there is a webserver-based control thing, but it's kinda mungy
[04:19] <Ivanrad> i have a blank SSD formatted
[04:19] <Ivanrad> no data
[04:19] <elijah> tensorpudding: It says Gparted isn't installed, is this the same one Kubuntu uses in the installer?
[04:19] <tensorpudding> davefromcamp: i usually used ssh
[04:19] <Blue1> Ivanrad: indeed I do not understand.
[04:19] <Ivanrad> its connected to my windows pc whihc im on now... i want to install netbook remix onto the SSD
[04:19] <Blue1> Ivanrad: my netbook has 3 usb ports.
[04:19] <elijah> tensorpudding: Does Kubuntu just not install the partition manager it uses on install?
[04:20] <ZekeS> Ivanrad: if the netbook has a USB slot, put the Ubuntu netbook livecd on a flash drive - like on that page - then install it ON THE NETBOOK ITSELF
[04:20] <Ivanrad> i dont have a USB drive
[04:20] <Ivanrad> all i have is the SSD
[04:20] <Ivanrad> why cant i just install ubuntu onto the SSD from my windows
[04:20] <Blue1> Ivanrad: and I've give you directions on how I did that with a usb drive - it's the same idea
[04:20] <Ivanrad> i did that
[04:20] <Ivanrad> it said
[04:20] <Ivanrad> plz insert bootable media
[04:20] <Ivanrad> it diddnt install it as bootable media
[04:20] <julian-> Ivanrad/Blue1: I've missed the context, but Wubi?
[04:20] <ZekeS> julian-: noooooo
[04:21] <Blue1> Ivanrad: no one knows how to do that - -you normally boot off the livecd and go from there.
[04:21] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: what do you mean by "install ubuntu onto the SSD"
[04:21] <Ivanrad> ok
[04:21] <Ivanrad> i have a netbook
[04:21] <Gnea> Ivanrad: did you go into your bios before it attempted to boot?
[04:21] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: you want to make a partition on the SSD for Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Ivanrad> no
[04:21] <Ivanrad> no i didnt
[04:21] <Ivanrad> lemme try
[04:21] <Gnea> Ivanrad: you have to enter the bios to get it to make sure it sees the usb drive - it won't just automagically see it, you have to explicitly go to bios
[04:22] <Ivanrad> gnea but it had an ssd b4?
[04:22] <Ivanrad> why wouldnt it recognize this ssd
[04:22] <Gnea> Ivanrad: doesn't matter, I have a netbook
[04:22] <Malvoro> hi everybody someone of El Salvador
[04:22] <Gnea> Ivanrad: it uses a SATA connection, so it will think SCSI
[04:22] <Blue1> well this is how I put a bootable working ubuntu (not a livecd install) onto a flash drive -- YMMV http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[04:22] <julian-> Ivanrad: You want to replace Windows on your netbook with Ubuntu, but lack an optical/USB drive to run the installer?
[04:22] <tensorpudding> Malvoro: there's a spanish-language channel if that is what you want
[04:23] <elijah> It says parted is installed and I did a search that suggests using kparted or qtparted, but parted isn't a GUI.
[04:23] <tensorpudding> !es | Malvoro
[04:23] <davefromcamp> mmm I don't know how to do that
[04:23] <davefromcamp> tensorpudding
[04:23] <elijah> kparted and qtparted don't come up in package search either
[04:24] <Ivanrad> pl
[04:24] <Ivanrad> im in the bios
[04:24] <Blue1> julian-: i think he's saying his netbook has no usb, and no nard drive - just ssd - and that would get him there.