[05:38] <ryanandheather> sauvin: yeah i did, and i was wrong it still is
[05:38] <macogw> dstadulis: 4GB for FAT32
[05:38] <rockets> dstadulis: ndiswrapper -i drivernanme.inf
[05:38] <dstadulis> I have tried that route rockets
[05:38] <sauvin> Grr.
[05:38] <rockets> dstadulis: if that doesnt work the gui wont work magically
[05:38] <sauvin> Hey, folks, how do I get ubuntu to tell me what resolution X is using?
[05:38] <rockets> thats all the gui does
[05:38] <TimeTraveller> any one like to hear a cool song i have it on a  fast ftp.... my friend wrote it
[05:38] <macogw> !ask | Gauntlet
[05:38] <ubotu> Gauntlet: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:38] <victori> hmm I have a 3.0ghz prescott but cpuinfo shows up as 28000mhz ?
[05:38] <Pelo> dstaduli, no idea, I'm not that familiar with ndiswrapper
[05:38] <victori> anyone ever get that?
[05:38] <dstadulis> pelo k thank you
[05:39] <NoobSauce> victori: could be cpu throttling taking effect. Are you running a laptop?
[05:39] <mage> victori: maybe your clock is busted
[05:39] <Pelo> dstaduli,  there is a #ndiswrapper  channel
[05:39] <victori> NoobSauce: nope prescott
[05:39] <Gauntlet> thx, I'm stalling @ 7% on the partitioner during install
[05:39] <victori> hmm well this is the last time I buy intel that is for sure
[05:39] <dstadulis> Pelo thank you for the heads up didn't know
[05:39] <mage> victori: the kernel estimates the clock speed based on the system clock
[05:39] <Pelo> dstaduli,  tehre is a channel for everyting in freenode,  well almost
[05:40] <rockets> Almost everything
[05:40] <Gauntlet> tried reformatting HD to ext3 to fix, but still no luck
[05:40] <victori> can't be throttling since cpu heat is @ 55c
[05:40] <victori> which is well under 80c for a prescott
[05:40] <macogw> victori: where did you get cpuinfo? is that part of the linuxinfo package?
[05:40] <victori>  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:40] <inteliwasp> alfredo|NYC, mythtv cant connect to the db, the server is broke...
[05:40] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  pre partition your hdd before starting the installation program,  make each partition individualy not all at once
[05:40] <EchoBinary> hello - does anyone in here have a Compaq/HP ProLiant (DL580, or other) ? I have one and I am trying to install ubuntu on it. it boots off the CD, but then the installer says ioctl error on the CDROM - ive used 5 diff CDs - and i dont think its the CD Rom drive either. also passed ide=nodma to the installer bootup - any suggestions?
[05:41] <ryanandheather> sauvin: if you still around, enable the extended GUI, and then go to audio tab then set the preamp to like 3.0 dB or under
[05:41] <victori> been using linux for a very long time only until recently switched to osx86, but bah not flexible enough nor per formant in eclipse
[05:41] <macogw> victori: my intel registers correctly
[05:41] <Gauntlet> whats the preferred partitions for ubuntu
[05:41] <Pelo> EchoBinary, does your cd have linux drivers on it ? probably not,  tryi installing your printer using cups in menu > system > admin > printers
[05:41] <macogw> victori: it says 1.6GHz and thats what it is
[05:41] <sauvin> Ryan, I never tinker with the graph eq, which is why I ask. It's the one thing I can think of that can do what you're describing outside a foobar sound card driver.
[05:42] <EchoBinary> Pelo: im trying to install an OS, printer drivers dont help me??
[05:42] <macogw> victori: though on the "cpu mhz" line it says 800...hmm
[05:42] <victori> hmm maybe I need to patch my prescott
[05:42] <victori> I know intel cpus can be patched at runtime
[05:42] <victori> though it isn't persistant
[05:42] <rockets> I've got a macbook pro core 2 duo here
[05:42] <sauvin> Anyhow... anybody know how to determine what screen resolution X is using?
[05:42] <nox-Hand> I get this probem: ldconfig: /usr/lib/libwnck-1.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[05:42] <nox-Hand> Any idaes?
[05:42] <rockets> I'm considering running ubuntu on it, anyody here running ubuntu on an intel mac?
[05:42] <macogw> sauvin: system > prefrences > resolution
[05:42] <pete83> EchoBinary:haha, you mean HP makes more than printers???
[05:42] <nickrud> sauvin, xrandr
[05:42] <victori> anyone know the linux utility that patches intel cpus at boot?
[05:43] <victori> rockets: right here
[05:43] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  you can do well with  5=10  gig for /  (ext3),  2 gig for /swap (linux swap) and the rest for /home  ( ext3)
[05:43] <macogw> rockets: idk about here, but i know that a machine god does :p
[05:43] <rockets> victori: anything i should know?
[05:43] <EchoBinary> HP bough tcompaq.. and yes they make computers, and rackmount servers
[05:43] <macogw> rockets: there are howtos for it
[05:43] <sauvin> macogw, thanks!
[05:43] <Pelo> EchoBinary,  sorry I missread you ,   nvidia or ati vidoe card,  use the alternate install cd , it is text based
[05:43] <victori> osx86 has the shittiest jvm hands down, my workstation at work which is slower by a good measure runs eclipse faster under debian
[05:43] <Gauntlet> I'll give that a try, brb
[05:43] <xtknight> victori, microcode update for intel?
[05:43] <macogw> rockets: i remember brian kernighan saying he followed one to try ubuntu, his first linux....and he was there for helping make the first unix
[05:43] <victori> rockets: expect better performance
[05:43] <EchoBinary> Pelo: ??  video driver?
[05:43] <victori> xtknight: correct!
[05:44] <xtknight> victori, not sure but i remember seeing it at ubuntu bootup
[05:44] <Pelo> EchoBinary,  forget it , apparently I am confusing a bunch of ppl
[05:44] <xtknight> i think.  or maybe it was suse :] \
[05:44] <sauvin> Erm... macogw, that was under gimp, right? I'm using KDE. There is no "preferences".
[05:44] <rockets> victori: im not sure about it though. i run ubuntu on all my PCs . . . but OSX is so great
[05:44] <xtknight> victori, why? TLB problem?
[05:44] <macogw> sauvin: that was under gnome
[05:44] <victori> rockets: ya not so great at java/eclipse
[05:44] <macogw> sauvin: ok then um i dont know hold on
[05:44] <rockets> victori: huh? i dont care about java
[05:44] <sauvin> s/gimp/gnome/; # idiot at the keyboard alert
[05:45] <victori> well some of us need to make money
[05:45] <rockets> Certainly not writing java apps
[05:45] <xtknight> victori,  i think linux isn't affected by the errata.  any way i have no idea how to update microcode.  i do know that default microcode is restored very reboot so you can't screw anything too badly.  there is a linux intel microcode utility (perhaps old?) out there, just ogogle
[05:45] <Pelo> EchoBinary,  do you manage to start the install process ?
[05:45] <rockets> heh
[05:45] <xtknight> victori, the TLB errata that is
[05:45] <rockets> victori: doesnt IBM put out a JVM for mac os x
[05:45] <victori> not that I am aware of
[05:45] <pete83> EchoBinary: so you mean none of the cds you burnt worked?
[05:45] <victori> and no
[05:45] <victori> jvm for linux ppc
[05:45] <victori> not osx
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Help needed opening port for pop3 mail program.. Firestarter installed..  just need help opening up port 110
[05:46] <macogw> sauvin: im asking my friend amy. she uses kde
[05:46] <rockets> victori: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/javaformacosx104release5.html
[05:46] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, it's under Policy iirc
[05:46] <victori> ya the apple jvm
[05:46] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  should be opened by default , what makes you think it is closed ?
[05:46] <victori> that blows goats
[05:46] <macogw> sauvin: system settings -> monitor and display
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: In firestarter
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: wont connect..
[05:46] <victori> no seriously swing and swt run like snails on it
[05:47] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, the policy tab
[05:47] <pete83> EchoBinary: check the iso for a MD5SUM match before burning it
[05:47] <EchoBinary> Pelo: Pete83: yes i get the install process to start on all CDs, also on all CDs in the middle of it the CD IO stops and causes errors
[05:47] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, that may be a problem with the way you setup your email info in the client
[05:47] <fraser> hi guys, i have a TV tuner card in my comp, and i want watch TV on my comp. how do i do it? i know it's possible because SANE can take screenshots of the input
[05:47] <rockets> victori: can i run AMD64 Ubuntu on my mac?
[05:47] <victori> hell jam (an open source jvm, which is a plain interpreter based vm, gets better microbenchmarks than the apple jvm (with JIT)), which is pretty pathetic
[05:47] <EchoBinary> pete83: i suspect this is caused by the fact that the server doesnt really have a BIOS
[05:48] <victori> rockets: core2 uyes
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I am there.. how do I add policy in that screen?
[05:48] <sauvin> I don't have a "system settings" anywhere, either. What the frak?
[05:48] <pete83> EchoBinary: oh. that sounds harcore
[05:48] <Pelo> EchoBinary, check in the forum for installation problems,  it might be covered
[05:48] <rockets> victori: its brand new
[05:48] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, right click on the middle screen
[05:48] <macogw> EchoBinary: could be a messed up disk drive
[05:48] <rockets> Core 2 Duo 3gb ram
[05:48] <macogw> EchoBinary: that gave me issues
[05:48] <victori> rockets: just curious why run ubuntu on that mac?
[05:48] <macogw> rockets: what do you do with that much ram?
[05:48] <Bakefy> what is the command that will match the file permissions from one folder to the one i want to change?
[05:48] <macogw> victori: maybe for software freedom because osx is proprietary ;)
[05:48] <victori> macogw: apparently you have not used osx86
[05:49] <victori> 2gigs of ram here, with 5 gigs swapped out for fun with osx86
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I am there so ip host or network... gmail would be..?
[05:49] <fraser> i have a TV tuner card at v4l:/dev/video0
[05:49] <macogw> victori: or, if you're me, because you hate Aqua
[05:49] <rockets> macogw: I dont NEED that much ram. You're right. But why the hell not.
[05:49] <fraser> how can i view it?
[05:49] <rockets> victori: why NOT?
[05:49] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, you realize thats for an incoming pop connection, not you going out to get mail?
[05:49] <rockets> victori: I like Ubuntu.
[05:49] <victori> no just wondering, bit a of a pita having two operating systems
[05:49] <xtknight> fraser, find  a video/tv program in synaptic
[05:49] <Bakefy> what is the command to change directory access permission?
[05:50] <macogw> victori: im not even one of those "ill get a mac for the hardware then put on ubuntu" because i cant stand their keyboards either :p
[05:50] <bruenig> Bakefy, chmod and chown
[05:50] <Oval> Bakefy: A combination of chown and chmod.
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I havent messed with firestarter in a long time.. just want to be able to send and receive mail with thunderbird
[05:50] <macogw> Bakefy: chmod changes read/write/execute, and chown changes who the owner is
[05:50] <Pelo> fraser,  look up your tvtuner card model and number in the forum  with any luck there is a howto for you ,  and tvtuner in general if not
[05:50] <Bakefy> thanks everyone
[05:51] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, then don't worry about firestarter, that's not the issue.
[05:51] <chikita> hello, what do i do with the gecko-sdk for installing mplayerplugin?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I double checked the setup line by line in thunderbird..
[05:51] <Bakefy> how do i type it?  "chown /var/www/ westjd"?
[05:51] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, like Pelo mentioned, it's a client setup issue, not a iptables one
[05:51] <Pelo> chikita,  ask in #mplayer, they probably know better
[05:52] <rockets> aqua rocks.
[05:52] <chikita> ok, tu
[05:52] <bruenig> Bakefy, chown westjd -R /var/www
[05:52] <Bakefy> thanks!
[05:52] <fraser> Pelo, okay well i managed to VLC to display it, but there's two inoput jacks, an RF and an AV, i want to use the AV
[05:52] <sauvin> I have to be the only ubuntu user in existence who is unable to figure out how to get kde to reveal what resolution it's using.
[05:52] <wolf-hound> why does my ubuntu sound not work sometimes?
[05:52] <Pelo> fraser, I have no idea
[05:52] <Grungebunny> When a new version of Ubuntu is released.. is it possible to upgrade the one you currently have installed or will you have to reinstall the new one?
[05:52] <fraser> Pelo, also, tv tuner does not appear in apt-cache search tvtuner
[05:53] <wolf-hound> my ubuntu sound isnt working
[05:53] <xtknight> fraser, xawtv?
[05:53] <Pelo> fraser, I never said anyting about the repos  I told you to look in the forum   www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:53] <sauvin> wolf-hound, can you play music cds or view movie dvds at all?
[05:53] <Pelo> fraser,  you could also ask the ppl in #vlc for help in picking the right input
[05:53] <kousotu> Pelo: it workds well, thanks
[05:54] <fraser> xtknight, that appears, thankyou
[05:54] <Pelo> kousotu,  which bit ?
[05:54] <kousotu> now if only I could get sound to work...
[05:54] <fraser> Pelo, thankyou
[05:54] <macogw> sauvin: my friend amy may be popping up shortly to help you
[05:54] <fraser> Pelo, is that channel on this server?
[05:54] <xtknight> fraser, i really wish i could hlep you.  i love video but maybe i could help you in the right direction
[05:54] <nextse7en> is there an ssh server enabled with fiesty by default?
[05:54] <kousotu> Pelo: I use NDIS for wifi, and epsxe is working too
[05:54] <Pelo> fraser, should be,  maybe I hve it wrong
[05:54] <macogw> sauvin: if she doesnt (her nick is AmyRose), try #kubuntu
[05:54] <Pelo> kousotu,  and the reboot ?
[05:54] <Oval> nextse7en: Np.
[05:54] <kousotu> was fine
[05:54] <sauvin> I didn't know there was a #kubuntu... THANKS.
[05:54] <macogw> nextsno
[05:54] <Oval> nextse7en: *No.
[05:54] <Ashfire908> where can i get help with openoffice.org?
[05:55] <xtknight> fraser, i dont have a tuner card here.  all i can see is, linux probably has support for it somehow.  dont give u
[05:55] <macogw> nextse7en: no
[05:55] <xtknight> up*
[05:55] <teiwaz> bk
[05:55] <Oval> nextse7en: "apt-get install openssh-server" to get it.
[05:55] <nextse7en> Oval, Thank you.
[05:55] <ectospasm> anyone know how I can install perldoc?  perl is installed, but when I run perldoc it says I need to install the perldoc package.  apt-get install perldoc don't work
[05:55] <kousotu> "Other operating systems" still shows up at the bottom
[05:55] <fraser> Pelo, it's #videolan
[05:55] <Oval> nextse7en: My pleasure.
[05:55] <pete83> fraser, have you looked into mythtv?
[05:55] <sauvin> Ashfire908, it's not on topic, but I gotta ask: what's your OOo problem?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !find perldoc
[05:55] <ubotu> Found: libperldoc-search-perl
[05:55] <Pelo> fraser,  ah there you go
[05:55] <noch> hello all . . . i am trying to remove ubuntu from my pc (this one) and install it on my laptop. how do i delete my boot loader and swap partition that Gparted cant delete?
[05:55] <nickrud> ectospasm, it's perl-doc
[05:55] <Dr_willis> ectospasm,  i would say. do sme apt-cache searching for the proper name of the package
[05:56] <teiwaz> so anyone have any ideas how I can nuke and redo gstreamer
[05:56] <kousotu> noch: what othe os yougot?
[05:56] <teiwaz> ?
[05:56] <hmmmsomething1> is there a way to get rid of multiple partitions? because it seems i have created too many....
[05:56] <noch> i have XP
[05:56] <ectospasm> the proper name SHOULD be perldoc... if it's perl-doc I'll be mad
[05:56] <xtknight> !gparted | hmmmsomething1
[05:56] <kousotu> XP can delee pattions
[05:56] <ubotu> hmmmsomething1: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:56] <kousotu> delete*
[05:56] <Pelo> noch,  boot the live cd to delete the swap,  and you'll need to windows repair install to restore your mbr
[05:56] <nextse7en> Oval, is it ready to go once installed, or will it need to be configured?
[05:56] <hmmmsomething1> i'm on vista though
[05:56] <dstadulis> !internet
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <macogw> noch: to replace the original xp bootloader, put in the xp disk and in the repair console on it, run "fixmbr"
[05:56] <kousotu> hmmmsomething1: should work on vista too
[05:56] <Oval> nextse7en: It's ready to go, but for added security I'd personally fine-tune it if you're exposing it to the Internet.
[05:56] <LordDicranius> hello everybody :)
[05:56] <nickrud> ectospasm, don't get mad, just get angry
[05:56] <Smithers> Hello LordDicranius
[05:57] <kousotu> hello LordDicranius
[05:57] <Ashfire908> sauvin: in OOo Base, i get to the end of making a form in the form wizard, but it doesn't do anything if i click finish, and there is no create button.
[05:57] <macogw> hmmmsomething1: there's a GParted Live CD
[05:57] <noch> i cant boot into XP, my boot loader is messedup, i can only boot with my bootCD
[05:57] <ectospasm> nickrud:  I take crazy pills, so...
[05:57] <macogw> Ashfire908: i think that's it
[05:57] <LordDicranius> anybody found a good music notation alternative for linux? :-\
[05:57] <nextse7en> You guys would laugh if you knew what I was trying to do, I'm trying to get a remote session of X to run on a 15 year old Mach Unix box, do I can browse with it.
[05:57] <kousotu> noch: what you mean?
[05:57] <sauvin> Oh, I can't help with forms :(
[05:57] <Pelo> noch,  googl for windows repair install , and foloow the instrucgtions carefully
[05:57] <Gauntlet> Pelo, created the partitions using gparted, but still unable to get past 7% on partitioner... anything I missed? partitioned a 8GB ext3, 2GB linux-swap, and a 9GB or so ext3 for the rest of the HD
[05:57] <kousotu> hm...
[05:57] <nickrud> ectospasm, good reason to stick with angry then :)
[05:57] <macogw> Ashfire908: i use Neo Office (OOo for Mac) at work and after you make a form and can see it, it's there. just save
[05:57] <LordDicranius> a good music notation alternative for Finale is the only thing that's keeping one of my friends from making the switch...
[05:57] <pete83> LordDicranius: just for making sheet music, or with sound like cakewalk?
[05:57] <kousotu> the linux partion is still active?
[05:58] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  did you make them one by one ?
[05:58] <macogw> Ashfire908: oddly, you dont have to save after adding to the db through the form, which i dont quite understand
[05:58] <noch> sorry
[05:58] <LordDicranius> would like sound playback, just like midi
[05:58] <ectospasm> nickrud:  mad == angry in the context in which I used it
[05:58] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  I mean make one , apply it , then mak the other , etc
[05:58] <Oval> nextse7en: It's a worthy task.  Is that GNOME you're running, or are you going for something lighter?
[05:58] <pete83> LordDicranius: I think Rosegarden is one possibility
[05:58] <macogw> yeah i think rosegarden does midi playback
[05:58] <LordDicranius> pete83: hmm, haven't tried that one yet
[05:58] <macogw> i havent used it like 9 months
[05:58] <Gauntlet> yes
[05:59] <noch> my insall was complicated, but my XP is still there. i cannot boot into windows due to a messed up bootloader. i just want to delete my bootloader and my swap partition and start fresh
[05:59] <LordDicranius> I tried Denemo and NoteEdit, didn't like those :-\
[05:59] <nextse7en> I'm actually running Nextstep on top. Oval.
[05:59] <macogw> noch: to reinstall xp's bootloader, put in your xp cd
[05:59] <macogw> noch: go to its repair console and type "fixmbr"
[05:59] <LordDicranius> thanks for the recommendation pete83.  Imma go install it on a spare PC real quick and give it a trial run :-)
[05:59] <pete83> LordDicranius: before you install Rosegarden, you will need to set up timidity++ as a midi sythesizer server... make sure to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:00] <knoppix> I cant seen to get the copy to install
[06:00] <silent-shadow> hhhmm
[06:00] <nextse7en> Oval: Nextstep 3.3 with y2k patch.
[06:00] <Ashfire908> macogw, but it doesn't make the form. it beeps at me if i try to click on the form, and when i click the finish button, noting happens. the wizard stays open.
[06:00] <LordDicranius> thanks pete83 :)
[06:00] <macogw> Ashfire908: oh...lemme try
[06:00] <noch> macogw: why cant i just delete it from my command line
[06:00] <noch> ?
[06:00] <Gauntlet> one at a time, applying in between
[06:00] <noch> brb
[06:00] <nextse7en> Oval: On a 35mhz motorolla architecture.
[06:00] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  when you say the partitioner doesn'T get pass 7% do you mean the installer ?  because once you'Ve pre partitionned before installing wen you get the the partition stuff,  select manual , skip the partitioner bit go straight to where you specify what partitions to use,  do not reformat the swap or the /home one,  but / will need to be formated,    that shoudl have cut down the on any partitionning to be done
[06:00] <knoppix> can i just install straight from a website?
[06:01] <Pelo> Gauntlet, use my nick when talking to me please it makes it easier to follow
[06:01] <ubernoch> ok back
[06:01] <Oval> nextse7en: Hah, that's crazy.
[06:01] <macogw> noch: im talking about putting back XP's bootloader, the original one.  right now, GRUB is on the master boot record of the drive.  to get rid of GRUB, you have to put XP's back
[06:01] <Pelo> !install | knoppix  I think you can, check here
[06:01] <ubernoch> ok
[06:01] <ubotu> knoppix  I think you can, check here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Silly me... I had not clicked save settings in gmail after enabling pop
[06:01] <kousotu> Pelo: where can I find Mp3 and MP4 codecs?
[06:01] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, yes sillly you
[06:01] <macogw> Ashfire908: did you use design form or wizard?
[06:01] <bechemex> mexico
[06:01] <fraser> pete83, nope i haven't, i shall though
[06:01] <knoppix> where i dont see a link
[06:02] <ubernoch> now i just need to find where i put my xp cd . .
[06:02] <Pelo> kousotu,  go in synaptic, and install all the gstreamer 10 stuff,  that shoud cover everthing
[06:02] <nextse7en> Oval: The Mach os and nextstep are actully pretty amazing, WAY ahead of thier time. Some parts of it feel more advanced than fiesty.
[06:02] <macogw> kousotu: go to add/remove and find the ubuntu restricted extras, install that and you should be good
[06:02] <mage> nextse7en: BeOS > NeXt
[06:02] <Gauntlet> Pelo, I'll doublecheck, but I don't remember there being a option to manually choose, just a next button
[06:02] <teiwaz> is there any way I can wipe and redo gstreamer?
[06:02] <mage> actually never used next ;)
[06:02] <teiwaz> I've tried clearing the cache
[06:02] <macogw> nextse7en: yeah but they have that darned menus-outside-the-windows thing.....bleh
[06:02] <Gauntlet> Pelo, I'll check though
[06:02] <Ashfire908> macogw, there's another bug in the wizard. i'll try after i get all the updates installed. this is the first i've been able to get online with this computer
[06:03] <teiwaz> but like any time I try to do somehting with gst
[06:03] <Oval> nextse7en: It looks that actually.  I'm getting nostalgia though, even in spite of the fact that I haven't used it.
[06:03] <Grungebunny> In this gaim program that comes with Ubuntu is there a method to the different colored nicks?
[06:03] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  when I talk about pre partitionning,  I mean before you ht the install icon,  goto menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor and do it there
[06:03] <mage> macogw: universal menu bar would be great for keyboard
[06:03] <Ashfire908> ?
[06:03] <macogw> Ashfire908: maybe try using design view instead of wizard
[06:03] <teiwaz> "I get a "error initializing: Error rescanning registry"
[06:03] <nextse7en> mage, macogw: It takes some getting used to, thats for sure.
[06:03] <macogw> mage: not the way OSX does it
[06:03] <Ashfire908> macogw: wizard
[06:03] <teiwaz> "child terminated by signal"
[06:03] <knoppix> i get about half way through the install and it freezes up. i dont know how to set up the partitions to use all of my hd either
[06:04] <Pelo> knoppix,  will ubuntu be the only os on that hdd ?
[06:04] <knoppix> ive tried two different versions 2
[06:04] <macogw> nextse7en & mage, on OSX, not everything has keyboard shortcuts. the ones that don't, you cant access by doing something like alt+f for File
[06:04] <knoppix> thats what im shootin for
[06:04] <jerkface03> does anyone know how i would create a new user in ubuntu? and to give that user access to development tools like gcc/gdb/etc..?
[06:04] <mage> macogw: press alt, then down
[06:04] <teiwaz> anyone?  bueller?
[06:04] <macogw> mage: will try at work on monday
[06:05] <knoppix> this knoppix works fine
[06:05] <chikita> where do i get gthread?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> jerkface03,  any new user will have access to those  - if they are installed.
[06:05] <pete83> jerkface03: system>>administration>>users and groups
[06:05] <macogw> mage: i still think Address Book is the only nice thing about OSX
[06:05] <jerkface03> pete83: server edition
[06:05] <Pelo> knoppix,   in the deskopt,  under menu < system > admin > gnome partiton editor,  make each partition individualy,   5-10 gig for / (ext3),  2xram for /swap ( linuxswap) the rest for /home (ext3)
[06:05] <jerkface03> Dr_willis: ya i think i already installed them
[06:05] <mage> trying OSX for longer than five mins is still on my todo list
[06:05] <xtknight> is it possible to get a video transport stream from a firewire device such as a motorola pvr, in linux?
[06:05] <Gauntlet> Pelo, thats where I did the partitioning, because after selecting the keyboard settings, the partioner part of the install stalls, and I never get to asking how I want to partition
[06:05] <pete83> jerkface03: man adduser?
[06:05] <macogw> mage: ive been using it at work for 2 months and i hate it
[06:05] <kousotu> Pelo: ty
[06:05] <jerkface03> pete83: i have to run it thru sudo right?
[06:06] <pete83> jerkface03: yeah
[06:06] <macogw> mage: though now im starting to see why people like integration....dragging names to your calendar is handy i guess
[06:06] <Oval> macogw: It depends entirely on what you do.
[06:06] <crazyman> weird problem, if i click on switch user my laptop mousepad stops working is this a common bug
[06:06] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  where it asks where you want to intall, yiou get  on a complete hdd,  largest available space and manual,  pck manual
[06:06] <macogw> mage: i still dont like having things so dependent upon each other though.  if one screws up the rest could too....
[06:06] <macogw> mage: i like the unix "do ONE thing, and do it well" idea
[06:06] <knoppix> pelo i am using knoppix now
[06:07] <Gauntlet> Pelo, I'm not even getting to that part
[06:07] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  are you on the live cd now ?
[06:07] <Gauntlet> yes
[06:07] <chikita> how do i get the gthread package?
[06:07] <Pelo> do you know how to take a screenshot ?
[06:07] <Pelo> Gauntlet, do you know how to take a screenshot ?
[06:07] <macogw> Oval: avoid mice as much as possible.  shun Photoshop in favor of the GIMP which requires installing X11 separately and then is all silly about how hiding works
[06:07] <krammer> what do u guys think of the hacking 9 live cd?
[06:07] <macogw> krammer: never tried it
[06:07] <pete83> Pelo, that's child's play
[06:07] <macogw> krammer: thought about it, but i think i decided the mag cost too much
[06:07] <Gauntlet> Pelo, I do in XP, and if its the same, I can
[06:07] <crazyman> weird problem, if i click on switch user my laptop mousepad stops working is this a common bug
[06:08] <macogw> crazyman: yes
[06:08] <mage> hacking 9?
[06:08] <krammer> yes
[06:08] <hmmmsomething1> alrightm, i think that i got all my partitions back in order :)
[06:08] <crazyman> macogw is there a fix?
[06:08] <krammer> i didnt pay for the cd
[06:08] <kousotu> Gauntlet: applications > accessories
[06:08] <krammer> :)
[06:08] <macogw> crazyman: hit ctrl alt f7 to go back to the first session, then ctrl alt f9 to go back to the 2nd one, and it should start working again, i think
[06:08] <Pelo> Gauntlet, ok meet me in #pelo, I'll do a little hand holding and walk you all the way through it
[06:08] <kousotu> screenshot is there
[06:08] <macogw> crazyman: its a workaround...
[06:08] <mage> oh script kitty cd
[06:08] <Oval> macogw: It is pretty apparent that it is not for you then.
[06:08] <mage> meow
[06:08] <hmmmsomething1> but now i have 20.73GB of free space that idk what to do with? am i supposed to put it in a drive?
[06:08] <macogw> mage: no, it's hackin9....as in the 9 is the g
[06:08] <pete83> Pelo, same as Windows XP, you take your camera in front of the computer...
[06:08] <crazyman> lol thats so random
[06:08] <macogw> Oval: yeah
[06:08] <Gauntlet> Pelo and kousotu, thx
[06:09] <krammer> ok
[06:09] <orbstra> hey I keep getting an ALERT exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has a non zero size, mail system possibly broke... and the mail system is actually broken
[06:09] <dstadulis> pete83 lol
[06:09] <Pelo> pete83, lol
[06:09] <Oval> macogw: I'm not happy with what a pain it can be to use OSS in Mac OS either.
[06:09] <Pelo> Gauntlet,  meet me in #pelo please
[06:09] <macogw> Oval: and to think i considered getting one of those before i found ubuntu!  after i realized "oh yeah...i dont actually know how to use a mac" i decided it wasnt worth spending 2x the money on
[06:09] <Oval> macogw: But for proprietary stuff, and the 3rd party apps the Mac has, they suit my daily productivity well.
[06:09] <kousotu> yw Gauntlet
[06:09] <macogw> Oval: i dont use anything proprietary except java and flash
[06:09] <ChrisF-> Greetings.  Anybody installed WoW in Ubuntu using wine?
[06:10] <macogw> Oval: thatd require not being a cheapskate student ;)
[06:10] <macogw> ChrisF-: plenty of people have
[06:10] <desertc> Oval: I'm glad I don't use the term '3rd party apps', since I started using Ubuntu.
[06:10] <macogw> ChrisF-: which is to say i know it works, so dont go thinking "linux is bad with games and i like WoW so i'll keep an xp partition"
[06:10] <cmlalex> I'm looking for someone who can help me set up a built-in sound card
[06:10] <Oval> macogw: I'm actually so in love with Ubuntu that I kind of want to run only Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro.  Problem being, there's  a lot I'd miss about the Mac, and it feels like a waste of perfectly good money.
[06:10] <ChrisF-> the problem I'm having is that it loads up and gets to the part when I have to put the second CD in.  When I go to eject the CD though, it says the application won't let you eject
[06:11] <ChrisF-> Oval:  it would be.
[06:11] <pete83>  ChrisF-:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[06:11] <macogw> Oval: address book is the only thing i miss from osx.  i want to write an address book for linux that uses a similar gui
[06:11] <Adrian_Ancona> cmlalex, private me
[06:11] <cmlalex> will do
[06:11] <macogw> Oval: and links people in the same household so you dont type the address repeatedly, ditto on people who are coworkers
[06:11] <kousotu> !DVDS
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <kousotu> !DVD
[06:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:12] <kousotu> !dvd
[06:12] <Oval> ChrisF-: But it's quality hardware though.  I'd like to see Ubuntu run on that, seeing how it tends to jump into all of my old computers.
[06:12] <macogw> Oval: that part being something i thought of because of having 2 reps at one vendor and then requested by a friend when i mentioned i wanted to
[06:13] <[MMO] Marlo> I've had so many problems today...
[06:13] <[MMO] Marlo> Anyone know how to fix the mic capture problem?
[06:13] <desertc> [MMO] Marlo: :(  That's sad.
[06:13] <desertc> [MMO] Marlo: No problem here.
[06:13] <[MMO] Marlo> I've tried so many things...
[06:14] <desertc> [MMO] Marlo: I bet your mic is muted.
[06:14] <Oval> macogw: One other thing that I'd miss about the Mac is the wonderful interface it has.  I'm not completely satisfied with GNOME's "keep it simple," but they just seem to get it right at Apple.  Then I'm talking about the System Preferences.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Ive never though apples interface was that wonderfull.. seemed i had to work harder to get things done with it..
[06:14] <ChrisF-> just run Ubuntu in Paralells on the macbook pro
[06:14] <crazyman> macogw that worked but its a pain, no other ideas to fix it?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> but im OLD-Skool. :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> give me a xterm + mc !
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <macogw> Oval: i wanted to use GNOME from Fink in X11 on the mac
[06:15] <macogw> crazyman: im sorry, what was the problem again?
[06:15] <[MMO] Marlo> Nahh my mic isnt muted...
[06:15] <desertc> [MMO] Marlo: Have you looked in your alsa-mixer yet?
[06:15] <crazyman> macogw when you switch users the mouse stops working
[06:15] <noch> macogw: to restore my windows mbr, from the command line?
[06:15] <Oval> ChrisF-: I actually run VMWare fusion.  I don't like the speed of VM.
[06:15] <macogw> Oval: the mac at work is bearable because most of my time is spent in Terminal ssh-ing or ftp-ing or both to the web server, and the 90% of the rest is in GIMP
[06:16] <Oval> ChrisF-: To its defense, it's still in beta.
[06:16] <knoppix> can anyone tell me how to download a full iso image through knoppix?
[06:16] <macogw> crazyman: no, sorry. its an outstanding bug, possibly with resource allocation in X11, that i hope will be fixed in Gutsy
[06:16] <desertc> [MMO] Marlo: type "amixer" at your prompt and look for anything that says 0%
[06:16] <macogw> noch: you have to boot from the windows disk to do that
[06:16] <noch> i did
[06:16] <macogw> noch: then type "fixmbr"
[06:16] <Tremitos> Hi
[06:16] <noch> o ok
[06:16] <[MMO] Marlo> OK :)
[06:16] <Oval> macogw: Then again, Apple's Terminal.app sucks.
[06:17] <knoppix> i am trying to get ubuntu to work
[06:17] <crazyman> macogw im kinda of new to this, is gutsy the new release? and when is it coming out
[06:17] <macogw> noch: find the console in it...im sorry i dont know what menu options or whatever to use
[06:17] <macogw> crazyman: oct 18
[06:17] <silent-shadow> !offtopic
[06:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:17] <Oval> macogw: You'll enjoy iTerm if you dont have it already.
[06:17] <desertc> crazyman: september
[06:17] <macogw> Oval: all i ever see of it is "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:P after that i see the debian terminal on the server
[06:17] <macogw> desertc: no, oct 18
[06:18] <desertc> macogw: but I want it sooner!!
[06:18] <macogw> desertc: theyre always april and october, except when dapper was pushed back
[06:18] <desertc> macogw: okay - thanks for enlightening me
[06:18] <Oval> I can't wait for new X.
[06:18] <pete83> [MMO] Marlo:what program are you recording in, anyways?
[06:18] <knoppix> can ne1 help please?
[06:18] <macogw> desertc: http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=h8nhc87h6h195lqj8i4l2jka90%40group.calendar.google.com
[06:19] <Oval> Improved X support is exactly what Ubuntu needs right now.
[06:19] <macogw> desertc: FOSS release dates, conferences, etc.
[06:19] <macogw> desertc: obviously not finishe
[06:19] <desertc> macogw: oh man, that's sweet
[06:19] <macogw> Oval: bulletproof X!
[06:19] <macogw> desertc: i just started working on it a few days ago, so theres only like 8 things in there
[06:19] <pete83> knoppix: are you saying you don't have any OS installed right now, but all you have is 1 live cd?
[06:20] <desertc> macogw If you send me your email address, I will give you some more dates.
[06:20] <macogw> desertc: i was just gonna suggest that
[06:20] <yigenjin> ls
[06:20] <bzak2> how can one scan for a new USB device?
[06:20] <knoppix> pete:i have 2 ubuntu cds 6.06.1 and 7.04 and knoppix
[06:20] <bzak2> Ubuntu doesn't seem to be picking up my phone?
[06:20] <macogw> bzak2: lsusb will list them all
[06:20] <bzak2> thanks! ):
[06:21] <_Sparks_> Question - I am using VM ware with XP.  I would like to print from XP in vmware to my printer on the Unbunto side.  Any ideas of how?
[06:21] <macogw> bzak2: if theres nothing listed, you could have a bad cable or need to turn the phone on
[06:21] <pete83> knoppix: so why do you need to download an iso then?
[06:21] <[MMO] Marlo> OK went to alsamixer and turned everything up, still not working =(
[06:21] <yigenjin> macogw, fdisk -l
[06:21] <knoppix> knoppix works fine the other 2 cd freeze up every time i try to install or update
[06:21] <macogw> bzak2: if its listed but doesnt do anything, then there's more questions to ask
[06:21] <cmlalex> could someone help me set up my sound card drivers, please?
[06:21] <macogw> NonOEM: eh. he said usb..
[06:21] <noch> hey . . . i fixed my mbr, and i rebooted and it said 'reboot and select proper boot devide or insert boot media in selected boot devide and press a key'
[06:21] <pete83> knoppix: so you want the alternate install cd?
[06:22] <knoppix> i guess if it will work
[06:22] <bzaks> is there any reason that ubuntu would not be listing a device  on the desktop that lsusb can ID?
[06:22] <nox-Hand> How would I ls all packages on my system in a lineup so I can just do an apt comman to reinstall them on another system?
[06:22] <knoppix> but pete83 i cant download a whole iso image with knoppix it keeps telling me there is no more space
[06:22] <Pelo> noch,  make sure your hdd is selected as thefrist boot device in the bios
[06:23] <cmlalex> could someone help me set up my sound card drivers, please?
[06:23] <noch> pelo: it is
[06:23] <Pelo> bzak2,  because they are not mounted
[06:23] <Dr_willis> nox-Hand,  i saw just such a example today in the 'ubuntu  hacks' book :)
[06:23] <teiwaz> anyone here real good with gstreamer
[06:23] <bzaks> I thought Ubuntu Automounted USB devices
[06:23] <Pelo> noch, windows repair install
[06:23] <Pelo> google it
[06:23] <pete83> knoppix: use qtparted in knoppix to partition your hard drive, and then make a partition, and mount it, and then download the iso to that partition
[06:23] <Pelo> teiwaz, wrong kind of quesiton,  state the actual problem
[06:23] <Dr_willis> nox-Hand,  a little script makes a list of all installed packages, ya then pipe to another script that uses xargs and installs them on the 2nd box.
[06:24] <teiwaz> gstreamer is dead
[06:24] <noch> i did that, just repaired my mbr after i deleted ubuntu
[06:24] <Pelo> bzak2,  what kind of usb device is it ?
[06:24] <teiwaz> "error re-scanning registry, child terminated by signal"
[06:24] <teiwaz> anything using gstreamer doesn't work
[06:24] <teiwaz> I've tried clearing cache
[06:24] <Pelo> teiwaz,  while doing what ?
[06:24] <macogw> Dr_willis: i think he wants the little script that makes the list
[06:24] <teiwaz> uninstalling and reinstalling, etc
[06:24] <knoppix> where do i find qtparted?
[06:24] <bzaks> pelo: it's a cell phone
[06:24] <teiwaz> that error message happens with any of the gstreamer commands (gst-inspect-0.10, etc)
[06:24] <FDkrew> hello all
[06:25] <dormilon> Hello :-) Anyone who could help me with "changing screen resolution"?
[06:25] <Pelo> knoppix,  qparted is the kde version of parted, you can get it in synaptic
[06:25] <pete83> knoppix: try going to a terminal and typing qtparted ..... it might come with knoppix
[06:25] <Pelo> bzak2,  does it work as a flash drive ?
[06:25] <FDkrew> yes
[06:25] <macogw> dormilon: do you have intel graphics and want to know how to get higher than 1024x768?
[06:25] <bzaks> apparently not, but I'm supposed to just be able to put music on it
[06:25] <Pelo> dormilon,  menu > system > prefs > screen resolution
[06:25] <FDkrew> did u mount the flash drive?
[06:25] <dormilon> yes. macogw
[06:26] <teiwaz> I'm trying to run programs like amarok, banshee, etc though
[06:26] <Pelo> FDkrew,  I wasN'T talking to you,  ( noting personnal )
[06:26] <dormilon> Oops. not intel. But still want to go higher that 1024x768
[06:26] <knoppix> pete83 this is what it saysarning: Unable to open /dev/hdc read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/hdc has been opened read-only.
[06:26] <knoppix> Warning: Unable to open /dev/hdf read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/hdf has been opened read-only.
[06:26] <pete83> Pelo: fine then, i wasn't talking to you
[06:26] <_Sparks_> Dormilon look in your private chat window for help on res
[06:26] <john__> hey all!
[06:26] <Pelo> teiwaz,  look it up in the forum is all I can tell you
[06:27] <teiwaz> I've tried
[06:27] <Pelo> pete83,  how many nicks do you hve ?
[06:27] <pete83> Pelo: one, why?
[06:27] <Pelo> ...
[06:27] <teiwaz> I've also googled my a$$ off
[06:27] <dormilon> I did it so, but it shows only up to 1024
[06:27] <pete83> knoppix: why does it say that? when you type qparted?
[06:27] <nox-Hand> Dr_willis: The thing is, I borked up this system 100% and cant be bothered to fix it. I have done a complete tar of /home and I will then copy it to another PC for storage. Then once I have the list of apps on my PC I can use that to oadd then when installing the next system on this PC
[06:27] <nox-Hand> Dr_willis: Any ifea how?
[06:27] <pawan> wine jet audio cannot acces files and directories from other partition
[06:27] <nox-Hand> idae*
[06:27] <pete83> Pelo: how many do you have?
[06:27] <[MMO] Marlo> i keep getting sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[06:27] <[MMO] Marlo>  returned to me in the terminal :(
[06:27] <nox-Hand> idea**
[06:28] <knoppix> i dont know
[06:28] <_Sparks_> DORMILON - DO YOU STILL WANT HELP ON YOUR RESOLUTION?
[06:28] <pete83> knoppix: did you type "qtparted" at a terminal?
[06:28] <john__> i'm new to Ubuntu (and linux in general). it's pretty cool
[06:28] <nox-Hand> _Sparks_: Could you *please* not use CAPS? :)
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, you there..?
[06:28] <knoppix> pete83 i am completely new to linux and dont know much of anything bout it
[06:28] <BlainN> john -- yes, it is.
[06:28] <GothCloud> Capsy mr.
[06:28] <Pelo> john__, welcome tothe madhouse
[06:28] <Dr_willis> nox-Hand,  sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:] ] install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[06:28] <john__> :)
[06:28] <GothCloud> Caps lock is for hamsters
[06:28] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  yes I am but I am hidding
[06:28] <Dr_willis> nox-Hand,  cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install
[06:29] <knoppix> pete83 yes i did and that error message appeared
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, I have still got the same problem although a little more info
[06:29] <pete83> knoppix: ok, this time type "sudo qtparted"
[06:29] <john__> i'm a software engineer major and i've wanted to dabble in linux in general (ubuntu especially)
[06:29] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  you'lll have to refresh my memory,  I have a tendency to help several ppl at once and I get confused
[06:30] <The_Wiseguy> Can somebody help me please
[06:30] <nox-Hand> Dr_willis: You are my hero! :D
[06:30] <nox-Hand> ;)
[06:30] <pawan> how to access file and folders from other partition using wine
[06:30] <Pelo> john__,  it's a lot of fun,  would you like a few starter links to get you going ?
[06:30] <The_Wiseguy> please
[06:30] <GothCloud> I have a question...
[06:30] <BlainN> The_Wiseguy -- what have you got?
[06:30] <desertc> john__: How is it going for you so far?
[06:30] <pete83> BlainN: not fast enough
[06:30] <dormilon> yes Sparks, I do not know hot to go private
[06:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, it says in the diagnostic output when it fails to start X 'unknow input device cursor in serverlayout'
[06:30] <Pelo> GothCloud, care to share it with the group ?
[06:30] <BlainN> I tried.
[06:30] <desertc> john__: You might consider joining your local linux users group
[06:31] <GothCloud> Can I run Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in wine, so I can use Vista in a virtual PC, and Ubuntu is my primary OS?
[06:31] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  what was the original problem please I donT' remember what you are trying t fix
[06:31] <tom_> Is anyone aware of a mini howto setup jack on a realtime smp 2.6.20 kernel on ubuntustudio?
[06:31] <desertc> GothCloud: Just use Windows in VMware
[06:31] <SeveredCross> Can someone tell me why my screen gets badly discolored sometimes?
[06:31] <john__> linux or my major? in major i have a 3.95 and i've had an internship all summer. i start my sophomore year in a few weeks. as for this attempt at linux, it's all been great - no issues thus far! :)
[06:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, oh sorry, X wont start
[06:31] <Dr_willis> nox-Hand,  that stuff came from the 'ubuntu hacks' book :)
[06:31] <FDkrew> test. cant see my text
[06:31] <GothCloud> I like M$ VPC2K7 better...
[06:31] <FDkrew> nvm
[06:32] <pete83> GothCloud: no, there are better options for linux. Use VMware
[06:32] <Pelo> GothCloud,  no wine isnt for os, I think you will need a virtual machine ,  like vmware
[06:32] <_Sparks_> dormilon --- click on system and then preference ... if in on the list
[06:32] <SeveredCross> I think it's a problem with my fglrx driver but I purged the driver and reinstalled X and all that stuff and it persisted.
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, I did the reconfigure of xorg.conf and reinstall of both ati and fglrx drivers
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, to no success
[06:32] <FDkrew> trying to install beryl?
[06:32] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE, ok , but I have no idea what that error msg means,  did you try searching for it in the forum ?
[06:32] <sauvin> Paddy, what is the problem again, please?
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> sauvin, X suddenly got borked
[06:33] <sauvin> Can I get "borked" in more elaborate form?
[06:33] <BlainN> bork bork bork
[06:33] <GothCloud> Well, can wine run Microsoft Virtual PC?
[06:33] <knoppix> pete83: it did pull qtparted now im messin with that, thanks for that im sure i will have more questions thoough
[06:33] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE, I've given you as much as I can on this,  I donT' think I can realy be of any further assistance
[06:33] <john__> i love coding, but i also have a personal goal to one day own my own business - preferably something software related. i'd love to learn and eventually develop applications for ubuntu/linux, but i have one pitfall: i understand ubuntu/linux is all about free (as in speech and beer), so how do i create a business model that'll be equally satisfactory?
[06:34] <FDkrew> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   try this to reconfig ur xorg
[06:34] <ectospasm> john__:  I work for a company that produces GPL software, and turns a profit
[06:34] <sauvin> john_, most folks who make a living with linux do so through contract support.
[06:34] <BlainN> You can write commercial software for ubuntu/linux
[06:34] <ectospasm> john__:  of course, this is also a hardware company
[06:34] <_Sparks_> What is the url for the ubuntu forum?
[06:34] <pete83> knoppix: i'm glad that is working. As long as you save to a partition on your real hard drive and not just your RAM like before, you should not run out of space
[06:34] <Pelo> john__,  sell support
[06:35] <ectospasm> _Sparks_:  http://ubuntuforums.org
[06:35] <ectospasm> _Sparks_:  off the top of my head, that may be wrong
[06:35] <GothCloud> de de de
[06:35] <GothCloud> Ill ask elsewere
[06:35] <Pelo> but john__  this is hte support channel and you are a bit offtopic, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for those inquiries
[06:36] <john__> hardware companies i can see offering open source software and making a profit - in fact, it makes sense. selling support... well, i just wish there was something more than just that, especially since i strive for intuitive practices (in theory, support should be hardly necessary)
[06:36] <charlie_> cni upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[06:36] <BlainN> john__ I like that world you're talking about.  Let me know when you find it.
[06:36] <pete83> _Sparks_: there is a new up-and-coming website that might help you find it. It's now available at http://www.google.com
[06:36] <IdNotFound> !upgrade
[06:36] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:36] <ectospasm> john__:  you gotta fill a niche with your software products such that no one else can fill them, create demand for your product, and you'll do well
[06:37] <_Sparks_> Thanks Pete
[06:37] <IdNotFound> !upgrade | chalcedny
[06:37] <ubotu> chalcedny: please see above
[06:37] <IdNotFound> ops
[06:37] <IdNotFound> chalcedny: sorry
[06:37] <john__> blainkN, why? i'm not trying to start a flame war...
[06:37] <IdNotFound> !upgrade | charlie_
[06:37] <ubotu> charlie_: please see above
[06:37] <charlie_> same as earlier versions?
[06:37] <Pelo> john__,  you can make propriatary software to run on linux,  just know that what ever gpl stuffyou use as a basis needs to remain free,  the propriatary parts needs to be clean
[06:37] <BlainN> john__ Not flaming.  I just would like to see any piece of software that required no support.
[06:37] <IdNotFound> charlie_: should be, i have only updated from 6.10 to 7.04 :P
[06:37] <john__> that makes sense
[06:38] <Patrick__> sauvin, sorry I got disconnected
[06:38] <_Sparks_> john__  do you know how to go to a private chat window?  I have messaged you.
[06:38] <charlie_> thanx, easythen
[06:38] <Patrick__> what did I last tell you sauvin
[06:38] <john__> BlainN, you have a good point, but offering support as the core of your business model just doesn't seem ideal to me, that's all i meant.
[06:38] <john__> sorry, i'm used to mirc...
[06:39] <desertc> john__: you can sell support services around Free Software
[06:39] <FDkrew> anyone have any luck with steam source games under wine?
[06:39] <Pelo> john__,  how do you think redhat and canonical are making a buck ?
[06:39] <sucha215> what are people using for a ftp client that can use ssl
[06:39] <desertc> john__: read eric s. raymond's book
[06:39] <BlainN> john__ I just think it's a sign that you're offering a valuable product that's useful to a lot of people ,and some percentage are going to be willing to pay for some handholding or customization.
[06:39] <desertc> sucha215: secure copy
[06:39] <john__> as somebody mentioned, i am off topic. i can leave and go to the ubuntu-offtopic chat if you guys would rather...
[06:39] <Pelo> sucha215, search for ftp in synaptic and read the descriptions
[06:40] <sauvin> Patrick, if you're Paddy, the last thing you said was "it's borked".
[06:40] <desertc> john__: that would be best - you are going to end up in a long conversation
[06:40] <macogw> john__: its only about free speech, not the beer part.  really, you can make money on doing things like Cedega and ELive does.  it's open source, but you pay if you want a precompiled *stable* easy to install binary.  if you really want to go through the extra trouble  of compiling it from CVS, then you dont pay.
[06:40] <Pelo> john__,  it's a bit of a busy channel here , with all the free support and all, we's appreicaite it
[06:40] <macogw> john__: plus, if you're not incorporating anything already GPL'd into it, you dont need to release code
[06:41] <Pelo> macogw,  it's the other way around,  free as in beer
[06:41] <macogw> john__: most of us happily use binary-only Flash plugins from Adobe
[06:41] <capitalidea> When i try to install a script for greasemonkey on the latest firefox I click the install button but nothing happens
[06:41] <capitalidea> absolutely nothing happens
[06:41] <macogw> Pelo: what?
[06:41] <macogw> Pelo: FOSS is about the speech one, not the beer one
[06:41] <capitalidea> AMD64 Feisty, latest greasemonkey and latest firefox
[06:41] <capitalidea> any advice?
[06:41] <john__> macogw: i was thinking of doing something with a closed core (non gpl, of course) and an open api to offer the customizability that so many people seem to crave
[06:41] <pete83> macogw: hah, we'll even more happily move to Gnash as soon as possible
[06:42] <fraser> guys, i have managed to get TVTIME to show me the composite input in my TV tuner card, but it's black and white and there's not much quality
[06:42] <macogw> pete83: well yes, becaus Adobe's crashes firefox :p
[06:42] <Pelo> capitalidea, maybe you can try asking in #firefox , they might know better
[06:42] <macogw> pete83: and we cant fix it because its closed. but if it closed and doesnt act stupid, then meh
[06:42] <capitalidea> Maybe :/
[06:42] <john__> so #ubuntu-offtopic then? thanks for the initial support with that, and i'll return to here if i have any specific ubuntu related issues :-)
[06:42] <capitalidea> probably not
[06:42] <sauvin> The Adobe flash plugin crashes firefox?
[06:42] <BlainN> I've never used greasemonkey, so I don't know anything about it.
[06:42] <john__> actually, before i go, i do have a question
[06:43] <macogw> sauvin: for some people
[06:43] <_Sparks_> John__ There is a lot to start a technology based business, it is in the same as even 10 years ago.
[06:43] <_Sparks_> in = not
[06:43] <sauvin> YMMV. I had really rotten luck with the flash-nonfree plugin and worse luck with gnash.
[06:43] <_Sparks_> Sorry I am getting tired.
[06:43] <desertc> sauvin: seems to be the case.  looking forward to the Gnash plugin released in Gutsy
[06:43] <macogw> sauvin: not always, but i know some very flash-intensive sites will make firefox freeze for me
[06:43] <Patrick__> sauvin, when X fails to start it gives that error output screen which says unknown input device 'cursor' in serverlayout
[06:43] <Dr_willis> greasemonkey and platypus are one of the first firefox extensions i always install. :)
[06:43] <Kurisutofuaa> Anyone know of any good tools for working with wine?
[06:43] <fraser> does anyone know which television standard is used in australia? there's option like pal-nc pal-60 NTSC SECAM
[06:43] <john__> in firefox, under the Tools menu, what happened to the Options selection (such as to change the settings)?
[06:43] <BlainN> I use flashblock, so I don't get a lot of flash that I don't know I want.
[06:44] <Pelo> Kurisutofuaa,what do you mean ?
[06:44] <macogw> sauvin: actually, my firefox just might hate my cousin's psycho-religious bullcrap as much as i do, because when i think about it, it only does that on his site
[06:44] <Patrick__> Kurisutofuaa, wine-doors is getting much better
[06:44] <IdNotFound> Kurisutofuaa: I read about wine-doors the other day... it is still pretty new, but should be quite an interesting tool for the future
[06:44] <pete83> john__: sure, you CAN develop commercial software for linux... but most personal linux users want Free and open source software. Also, if your business develops custom software for large corporations, they can pay your business to write custom GPL software for them that (legally) steals tons of code from other projects (say, a version of openoffice with tons of company-related features)
[06:44] <sauvin> macogw, LOL
[06:44] <desertc> john__: Edit -> Pref
[06:44] <sauvin> Um... a cursor isn't an input device AFAICR
[06:45] <macogw> sauvin: i like how beryl makes the window dark to warn me that firefox is about to go nuts
[06:45] <Patrick__> sauvin, yeah I know but how would that have even got there
[06:45] <john__> thanks desertc!
[06:45] <sauvin> I can't use beryl because my card doesn't support 3d acceleration :\
[06:45] <tom_> howto setup jack on a realtime smp 2.6.20 kernel on ubuntustudio?
[06:45] <sauvin> Patrick, don't know. Why don't you run off to #kubuntu and ask how to reconfigure X?
[06:45] <pppoe_dude> where can i download keyboard layouts for the onscreen keyboard?
[06:45] <BlainN> john__ that's the way it used to be in Windows back in the day.  They moved it to Tools/Options there, but I don't know why the linux version never followed.
[06:45] <Patrick__> sauvin, why kubuntu
[06:46] <Toma-> tom_: its in the topic of #ubuntustudio
[06:46] <macogw> sauvin: what card?
[06:46] <sauvin> Moment, let me get an exact string...
[06:46] <Patrick__> sauvin, I use gnome
[06:46] <pete83> BlainN: edit>>preferences is a Gnome standard, for all applications on the desktop
[06:46] <Patrick__> ?
[06:46] <fraser> is anyone here familiar with mythtv enough to tell me why the hell is iahve to connect to a server or something just to use it?
[06:46] <john__> pete83: i would never morally be okay with "legally stealing" gpl. that's like stealing from charity in my book. on a side note, i guess i should've mentioned i'm most interested in b2b (business-to-business) applications.
[06:46] <Kurisutofuaa> Patrick__, IdNotFound, I just download it am going to try it out (wine-doors).
[06:46] <macogw> sauvin: my old old rage ii is the only card ive seen that wont do beryl so far
[06:46] <macogw> john__: its not stealing though. thats why the code's out there
[06:46] <tom_> toma thanks
[06:46] <macogw> john__: if you dont close the source, its fine
[06:46] <Toma-> tom_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Feisty
[06:46] <ectospasm> fraser:  I'd guess so you can get channel listings
[06:46] <Toma-> np
[06:47] <john__> oh, not closing the source. sorry, i thought that's what you meant.
[06:47] <Pelo> fraser,   #mythtv
[06:47] <fraser> ectospasm, i don't care about that
[06:47] <fraser> Pelo, thanks
[06:47] <BlainN> pete83 -- Okay.  Thanks.  I guess that makes sense.  My knee-jerk would be to use both, but I guess that might confuse some.
[06:47] <pete83> john__: "stealing" isn't really the right word... it's the whole point of the GPL... you can take GPL software and do what you want with it, as long as your software is also GPL
[06:47] <ectospasm> fraser:  ask in #mythtv-users
[06:47] <macogw> john__: if youre doing it just for a company and not distributing it, it doesnt have to be put out in public either as its not being distributed
[06:47] <ectospasm> fraser, Pelo:  #mythtv is for devs
[06:47] <sauvin> Damn, I forgot how to get that info... moment...
[06:47] <Pelo> dormilon,  please talk to me in hte channel I block /msg
[06:47] <Pelo> ectospasm, my mistake
[06:48] <macogw> john__: like if i write some extension for myself, i dont have to show anybody the code to it because it's only for me
[06:48] <john__> i understand. i thought it was implied by "stealing" to use the gpl stuff and close my own source. that's what i'm uncomfortable with. i am, however, fine with using gpl and making my stuff gpl of course :-)
[06:48] <sauvin>   info.product = 'ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)'  (string)
[06:48] <fraser> ectospasm, i found that out too late lol
[06:49] <macogw> john__: no, if you do that we send angry lawyers at you
[06:49] <john__> lol
[06:49] <macogw> john__: + public shaming
[06:49] <macogw> john__: there's a website for listing gpl violators.  Parallels was on the list for a bit
[06:49] <sauvin> What might even be worse is if those angry lawyers have MS experience and defected :D
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i backed up a lot of stuff.. and some how - the directory structure got made.. but the actual data files dident get copied over.. wonder how  i did that. any ideas? so i DONT do it again?
[06:50] <Outlander> hi :)
[06:50] <Pelo> john__,  as long as the gpl stuff you use is still available and credited you can write your own stuff that works with it and keep it closed,  you can read the gpl 1 2 and 3 licences to see what the exact restrctitions are
[06:50] <macogw> Dr_willis: forgot the -r ?
[06:50] <pete83> john__: yeah, sorry about using the word "stealing." My point was just, you can get a ton of free code byb writing GPL software, and if you are writing software for a corporation, they probably just see it as extra value that it took you 4 weeks to write them a custom office suite
[06:50] <sauvin> Do GPL violators really get taken to court?
[06:50] <Epidemic> hey, by chance, anyone speak french in here?
[06:50] <john__> lol MS claims are funny... i'm by no means a fanboy of any sort, but i always laugh at FUD from MS...
[06:50] <macogw> sauvin: sometimes
[06:50] <macogw> sauvin: well, theres the possiblity, i guess
[06:50] <sauvin> Epidemic, I do, but this isn't the channel for it.
[06:50] <macogw> sauvin: thats why the FSF has lawyers
[06:50] <Pelo> !fr | Epidemic
[06:50] <ubotu> Epidemic: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:51] <varun0> sauvin: http://gpl-violations.org/index.html
[06:51] <Dr_willis> macogw,  i was using mc and smbfuse i think.  missing the -r would not of just grabbed the directory names. and skipped the files.. wondering if it was some odd ownership issue
[06:51] <nhaze> I plan migrating an existing linuxbox to ubuntu. I have a few LVM partitions that I would like to keep through the migration. Do I need to do anything with vgexport/vgimport or should the LVM be seamlessly recognized by ubuntu (once i install lvmtools)?
[06:52] <sauvin> Anyhow, does anobody have any news on supporting an ATI Radeon XPress 200M 5955 (PCIE) for 3D hardware acceleration?
[06:52] <izra> HI
[06:52] <john__> well, thanks for the help guys. i'm off to #ubuntu-offtopic to no longer continue to clutter this chat
[06:52] <Dr_willis> macogw,  i got dircetorys going 10 levels deep all mirrored fine. :) but not a single actual data file got copied also. :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> weird
[06:52] <desertc> izra: hiya
[06:52] <macogw> Dr_willis: ok yes, weird
[06:52] <reya277> How can I get my OpenGL Drivers to work properly
[06:52] <Meyvn> morning people!
[06:52] <Dr_willis> sauvin,  my x200m works on my laptop. the fglrx driver has a few bugs however.
[06:53] <bluebanana> where is the file location of the gimp executuable? I can't find it in /bin
[06:53] <Pelo> bluebanana,  possibly /usr/bin
[06:53] <sauvin> Dr_willis, yes, I have 2d acceleration, but can't use beryl until 3d is supported.
[06:53] <defrysk> bluebanana, /usr/bin/blahblah
[06:53] <pete83> reya277: what are the drivers called, and what is your videocard?
[06:54] <bluebanana> Pelo, you're right. Thanx
[06:54] <Dr_willis> sauvin,  i got 3d with the fglrx stuff. but that thing aint got the power for beryl would be my guess.. not that i plan on using beryl  anyway..
[06:54] <reya277> I have the ATI Restricted Dirvers
[06:54] <bluebanana> defrysk, thanks.
[06:54] <pete83> reya277: what, fglrx?
[06:54] <reya277> fglrx
[06:54] <reya277> yes
[06:54] <pete83> reya277: ok, so what have you done so far?
[06:54] <tom_> Toma: That link is only realtime feisty about loading the kernel. I'm needing to setup jack and have tried shotgunning with no success.
[06:55] <reya277> fglrxinfo
[06:55] <reya277> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:55] <reya277> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[06:55] <reya277> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300/X1550 Series
[06:55] <reya277> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[06:55] <pete83> reya277: in other words, they already work?
[06:55] <reya277> well It seems to be running but no OpenGL functionality or Direct Rendering
[06:55] <macogw> reya277: glxinfo | grep direct
[06:56] <reya277>  glxinfo | grep direct
[06:56] <reya277> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[06:56] <reya277> direct rendering: No
[06:56] <pete83> reya277: how about:  glxgears
[06:56] <macogw> reya277: there ya go. you need dri
[06:56] <reya277> ok how can do this
[06:57] <macogw> reya277:  check that its listed in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the modules
[06:57] <reya277> or how can I install DRI
[06:57] <pete83> reya277: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:57] <reya277> Section "DRI"
[06:57] <reya277> 	Mode         0666
[06:57] <reya277> EndSection
[06:57] <sauvin> EDIT THAT FILE WITH CARE.
[06:58] <macogw> figures i type vi /etc/X11/corg.xonf
[06:58] <pete83> reya277: what about at the start of the file, in section "Module"
[06:58] <macogw> reya277: is it also listed in the Modules section?
[06:58] <macogw> oh we both said it
[06:58] <reya277> Section "Module"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "i2c"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "bitmap"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "ddc"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "dri"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "extmod"
[06:58] <drone4four> compiz fusion on ubuntu fucking rox
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "freetype"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "glx"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "int10"
[06:58] <reya277> 	Load  "vbe"
[06:58] <reya277> EndSection
[06:58] <Myrtti> !pastebin | reya277
[06:58] <ubotu> reya277: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <macogw> o its fine
[06:59] <Jcx87> Yeah im using beryl with emerald themes, I love it =)
[06:59] <macogw> reya277: on OpenSuSE i had a problem where DRI was in the wrong spot.  i forget how to fix it though.....i think i just hunted around for it
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[07:00] <reya277> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32576/
[07:00] <macogw> reya277: if you do glxinfo without the | grep direct, itll tell you where its looking for it
[07:00] <Dr_willis> egads.. is kindergarten out all ready?
[07:00] <reya277> ok
[07:01] <charlie_> just picked up my kid from kindergarden
[07:02] <pete83> charlie_: type cat child | grep car >> home
[07:02] <reya277> is this something I can fix through synaptic
[07:02] <ectospasm> pete83:  huh?
[07:02] <charlie_> why?
[07:04] <ectospasm> pete83:  you're searching for the car inside the child...
[07:04] <ectospasm> and appending the results to your home
[07:04] <binMonkey> how do i save my system settings in kubuntu?  everytime i shutdown and reboot they go back to default.
[07:04] <lard-Vader> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
[07:04] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  how are you shutting down?
[07:04] <binMonkey> ectospasm: shutdown -h now.
[07:05] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  that's why.  You need to shutdown using the higher-level software method...
[07:05] <charlie_> pet83: why
[07:05] <binMonkey> ectospasm: it's set up to boot to console.
[07:05] <pete83> ectospasm: right you are... because the child has usually swallowed a toy car, and you should ppend that child right back home as soon as possible in such an emergency
[07:05] <reya277> I'm still getting the Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[07:05] <reya277> direct rendering: No
[07:05] <ectospasm> pete83:  um, wouldn't you take them to the ER in that case, instead?
[07:05] <reya277> how can I fix this
[07:06] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  well you need to quit KDE properly, don't just kill it
[07:06] <binMonkey> ectospasm: do you mean a display manager?
[07:06] <macogw> reya277: do just "glxinfo" and pastebin it and ill look at it
[07:06] <pete83> ectospasm: yeah, but I was assuming your home is an ER because you're a private doctor who works out of his home
[07:06] <binMonkey> ectospasm: i use the logout applet first.
[07:06] <reya277> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32576/
[07:06] <Gimm1eDat> I need some help
[07:06] <BlainN> GimmleDat -- What do you need?
[07:07] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  usually the sessions setting (I use GNOME, not KDE), so I'd look in kcontrol or somewhere where it saves the settings on exit
[07:07] <Jcx87> I used a magical program called Envy to install my video card drivers, it worked magic. No need for restricted drivers anymore.
[07:07] <charlie_> can i upgrade from edgy to feistty if i just change sources and update?
[07:07] <Montaro> cat school | grep child >> car/home
[07:07] <Montaro> ;)
[07:07] <Montaro> sorry bit delayed lol
[07:07] <SrbinoT> hello
[07:07] <ectospasm> Montaro:  the home is inside the car, then
[07:07] <binMonkey> ectospasm: i've been searching for about an hour now.  can't find anythin like that.
[07:07] <reya277> Envy? really I bet you have an Nvidia Card
[07:08] <SrbinoT> i want ask something
[07:08] <SrbinoT> if i can
[07:08] <Montaro> cat school | grep child >> car &>home
[07:08] <IdNotFound> charlie_: I believe the tutorials cover that, can't you use the GUI ?
[07:08] <Montaro> lol
[07:08] <krzee> after a little playing with my dual boot setup on my macbook pro, i just came to say i am loving ubuntu, and if theres any devs here, thank you =]
[07:08] <Jcx87> Actually I have an ATI radeon
[07:08] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  It may be called sessions...
[07:08] <pete83> ectospasm: you're not being very constructive here
[07:08] <reya277> damn
[07:08] <reya277> and it worked for you
[07:08] <charlie_> don't feel like it just want a yes
[07:08] <Jcx87> Yes it did..
[07:08] <reya277> wow, lucky you
[07:08] <SrbinoT> tell me the commands for create psyBNC on linux in terminal
[07:08] <SrbinoT> tell me the commands for create psyBNC on linux in terminal
[07:08] <ectospasm> pete83:  to binMonkey?  Yeah, I know... I don't use kubuntu, so I should just shut up
[07:08] <SrbinoT> pls
[07:08] <SrbinoT> someone ?
[07:09] <pete83> ectospasm: lol, no I meant about the child car home script
[07:09] <ridlo> #kudus
[07:09] <kousotu> !help | SrbinoT
[07:09] <ubotu> SrbinoT: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:09] <krzee> SrbinoT: try the man page!
[07:09] <binMonkey> ectospasm: yeah.  i know how to do it in ubuntu but if it's there in kubuntu i'm just missing it.
[07:09] <kousotu> hm..
[07:09] <SrbinoT> !help
[07:09] <kousotu> !ask | SrbinoT
[07:09] <ubotu> SrbinoT: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:09] <kousotu> there we go
[07:09] <kousotu> lol
[07:09] <kousotu> wrong command
[07:09] <SrbinoT> i want to create a psyBNC on linux
[07:09] <binMonkey> any kubuntu users here?
[07:10] <SrbinoT> and how to start that ?
[07:10] <BlainN> binMonkey -- yes.
[07:10] <reya277> still here macogw
[07:10] <SrbinoT> !help
[07:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:10] <binMonkey> BlainN: how do i save my desktop settings from boot to boot?
[07:10] <macogw> reya277: yes. did you pastebin it?
[07:10] <reya277> yes
[07:10] <kousotu> binMonkey: sessions
[07:10] <reya277> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32576/
[07:11] <charlie_> anyone beside idnotfound know if i can upgrade edgy to feisty by changing sources and upgrading?
[07:11] <kousotu> system pref. sessions
[07:11] <macogw> reya277: not your xorg, the output of "glxinfo"
[07:11] <BlainN> binMonkey -- I don't know.  I've only run from the CD long enough to do an install, and then it's not an issue.  I don't like running from CDs routinely.
[07:11] <IdNotFound> charlie_: :P
[07:11] <ectospasm> kousotu:  I had suggested that earlier
[07:11] <ectospasm> well, not the path to sessions
[07:11] <kousotu> lol
[07:11] <BlainN> Word on the street is that sessions might be helpful, though.
[07:11] <charlie_> P
[07:11] <kousotu> well, I gae it
[07:11] <kousotu> gave*
[07:11] <SrbinoT> hello
[07:11] <SrbinoT> i need help here
[07:11] <SrbinoT> pls
[07:11] <pete83> reya277: what is the option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[07:11] <rodrigo> #ubuntubrasil-orkut
[07:12] <SrbinoT> !help
[07:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:12] <BlainN> SrbinoT -- Hello.
[07:12] <SrbinoT> pls
[07:12] <binMonkey> kousotu: sorry if i missed it but i can't find sessions in ANY menu.
[07:12] <SrbinoT> hello man
[07:12] <rodrigo> ola
[07:12] <SrbinoT> can you help me
[07:12] <kousotu> binMonkey
[07:12] <rodrigo> #ubuntubrasil-orkut
[07:12] <n00dl3> Hey, ive disabled my pc speaker yet whenever I alt+tab or scroll up in term I hear like this high pitched beep(alt+tab), or constat beep(scrolling). Anyone know how to get rid of this, it's driving me nuts D:
[07:12] <rodrigo> hmm
[07:12] <rodrigo> perdido
[07:12] <kousotu> System > preferences
[07:12] <rodrigo> algum br?
[07:12] <reya277> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32577/
[07:12] <kousotu> it's ner the bottom
[07:12] <kousotu> near*
[07:12] <BlainN> I don't even know what a psyBNC is.  Sorry.
[07:12] <charlie_> a simple yes would suffice
[07:12] <reya277> macogw was that it
[07:12] <SrbinoT> okay
[07:13] <SrbinoT> i need help here
[07:13] <binMonkey> DANG DANG DANG DANG DANG.  I'M A FREAKING IDIOT!!!
[07:13] <reya277> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32577/
[07:13] <SrbinoT> hello
[07:13] <SrbinoT> anu body
[07:13] <binMonkey> kousotu: lock sessions, right?
[07:13] <kousotu> no
[07:13] <BlainN> charlie_ -- Back up your crap and try it.
[07:13] <SrbinoT> i need help here
[07:13] <SrbinoT> pls
[07:13] <SrbinoT> help me
[07:13] <kousotu> SrbinoT: shut up
[07:13] <BlainN> I just clicked the pretty boxes when it asked me to upgrade to Feisty.
[07:13] <charlie_> nothing to back up, made it this far from breezy!
[07:14] <contef> .Trying to compile from source, apache 2.2.4 and receiving error:  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:14] <thavorn> how to add launcher to panel for feisty fawn ppc
[07:14] <SrbinoT> kousotu,
[07:14] <SrbinoT> i need help
[07:14] <pete83> SrbinoT: just state your difficulty
[07:14] <kousotu> SrbinoT: obviously, we see that
[07:14] <BlainN> He did.  He wants to build a psyBNC under Linux.
[07:14] <SrbinoT> yeah
[07:14] <macogw> reya277: thats short
[07:14] <SrbinoT> and ... ?
[07:14] <kousotu> binMonkey: lemme find a command for you
[07:14] <pete83> ah
[07:14] <SrbinoT> tell me the commands
[07:14] <reya277> yeah that's all I got
[07:15] <binMonkey> kousotu: lock session isn't it.
[07:15] <BlainN> I know what the question is, but I don't know what it's talking about.  Anybody else?
[07:15] <SrbinoT> thats all i need
[07:15] <binMonkey> kousotu: thanks.
[07:15] <macogw> reya277: there's a website with troubleshooting for it. lemme find it
[07:15] <kousotu> pete83: you know how to open sessions from temina?
[07:15] <kousotu> binMonkey: np
[07:15] <echelon> hey
[07:15] <thavorn> !share folder
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share folder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <BlainN> Have you talked to your good friend Google about this, SrbinoT?
[07:15] <pete83> kousotu: what do you mean?
[07:15] <echelon> atm my laptop has windows installed
[07:15] <thavorn> !filesharing
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <SrbinoT> yeah
[07:15] <pawan1> audacious problem
[07:15] <echelon> i want to reformat my laptop but also this time put ubuntu on so i can dual boot
[07:15] <binMonkey> kousotu: do you see a sessions in any menu in your kicker?
[07:15] <SrbinoT> and always i had the simple problem
[07:16] <echelon> which should i install first
[07:16] <pawan1> i am adding one particular song it is adding some other song
[07:16] <SrbinoT> can make
[07:16] <kousotu> pete83: I mean like to open the sessions control
[07:16] <SrbinoT> a psybnc
[07:16] <contef> Anyone know why "C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:16] <shamoun_> hey all
[07:16] <macogw> reya277: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting
[07:16] <kousotu> binMonkey: yes
[07:16] <pete83> kousotu: gnome-session-properties
[07:16] <macogw> reya277: see if anything there helps
[07:16] <contef> OS=Ubuntu 4.07
[07:16] <Pelo> echelon,  assuming you are also clean installing windows,  use the ubuntu live cd to make seperate partitions,  install windows on one first,  then isntall ubuntu on the other, shold be as simple as that
[07:16] <kousotu> binMonkey: what pete said
[07:17] <kousotu> thanks pete83
[07:17] <echelon> ok
[07:17] <echelon> i have one hard drive
[07:17] <echelon> but i have a C: and D:
[07:17] <echelon> this already means i have two partitions ?
[07:17] <rockets> God Colloquy is so great
[07:17] <BlainN> Have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/psyBNC ?
[07:18] <shamoun_> hmm, i'm trying out the 7.10 release to test compatability for laptop, it has pretty new hardware which i hear works under that release. If I download the iso will it boot like a livecd that i can test first or will i have to install to check compatability?
[07:18] <macogw> echelon: D:\ is usually your CD drive
[07:18] <echelon> its not
[07:18] <kousotu> echelon: what does C and D say?
[07:18] <echelon> its hard drive space
[07:18] <Flannel> shamoun_: the desktop CD is a liveCD, the alternate CD is only an installer
[07:18] <Pelo> echelon, yes,  so you can use c for windows and use the space of d for ubuntu,  but alsays install windows first taht way  ubuntu will pick up the extra os during the installation and make  a boot menu accordingly
[07:18] <kousotu> oh..
[07:18] <macogw> echelon: then yes, you have 2 partitions
[07:18] <BlainN> Then, yes, you have two partitions.
[07:18] <echelon> ok
[07:18] <kousotu> echelon: D is your backup partion
[07:18] <macogw> echelon: D: may be a restore partition though
[07:18] <echelon> awesome
[07:18] <macogw> BlainN: jinx
[07:18] <kousotu> lol
[07:18] <Gimm1eDat> im having a shit-ton of problems installing ubuntu.. after re-burning the CD (I downloaded it from the "get ubuntu" link) I finally got to the desktop.. after about literally 20 restarts..
[07:19] <LordCthulhu> I am a total newb to Linux, I need help
[07:19] <arooni> when trying to boot the live cd:  i'm getting a lot of :   end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0.... and Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[07:19] <BlainN> LordCthulhu -- with what?
[07:19] <shamoun_> echelon, if the machine is an hp computer d: is probably your restore partition and you might not have a physical recovery disk
[07:19] <binMonkey> kousotu: sorry guys.  that's not working/
[07:19] <macogw> arooni: anything in your floppy drive?
[07:19] <Pelo> Gimm1eDat,  and what do you need to do now ?
[07:19] <arooni> macogw: nope
[07:19] <Pelo> LordCthulhu,  jsut ask your question if anyone can help they will try
[07:19] <Gimm1eDat> I got it to install.. or at least the installer to run.. it ran.. I got through the whole thing i believe.. it dumped me onto the desktop, when I restarted.. i took the CD out and it said "error loading operating system"
[07:19] <kousotu> binMonkey: run gnome-session-properties in terminal
[07:19] <LordCthulhu> BlainN: Whenever I try to start it up, it gets stuck on a screen that says 'Decompressing Linux... Booting the kernel'. And nothing happens
[07:20] <arooni> now i'm gettin gstuff like :  'buffer i/o error on device hda, logical block 293767' .....
[07:20] <arooni> are these things normal?
[07:20] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: can you hit Esc on GRUB when it boots ?
[07:20] <BlainN> LordCthulhu -- you might need to tweak some of your display settings.
[07:20] <echelon> i dont have an hp
[07:20] <pete83> LordCthulhu: I don't think that's supposed to happen
[07:20] <macogw> arooni: no...dont think so...
[07:20] <Pelo> Gimm1eDat,  boot the live cd again and run the cd integrity check
[07:20] <macogw> arooni: check the cd for errors
[07:20] <macogw> Pelo: he could have a fscked menu.lst
[07:21] <Gimm1eDat> i restarted, with the CD in again.. and tried to goto "start or install ubuntu" and it does one of a few things.. it either errors out with various error codes..  or it gets to the little status bar.. it gets.. 1 50th in and just freezes
[07:21] <BlainN> It might be loading just fine, but your display settings could be keeping the desktop from showing.
[07:21] <thavorn> I am using ppc for feisty fawn, no right click. any way to add a launch to panel beside right click on panel?
[07:21] <LordCthulhu> BlainN: Well to give you some background info my screen is pretty much huge, and it displays everything fine.
[07:21] <Gimm1eDat> i ran the integrity check one and it got through without any errors
[07:21] <BlainN> It's not that there's anything wrong with your monitor, just that the default settings might not talk to it properly.
[07:21] <LordCthulhu> BlainN: It might be because my PC is very new, it came pre-installed with Vista
[07:21] <shamoun_> LordCthulhu, did you burn the disk dao at a slow speed?
[07:21] <Pelo> macogw,  can you take care of him I'm needed in another channel
[07:21] <BlainN> That could have something to do with it.
[07:21] <macogw> Pelo: will try
[07:21] <LordCthulhu> shamoun_: No, I burnt it at 48x speed
[07:21] <Gimm1eDat> its a 160gb drive, i gave it all to the ubuntu partition.. do you think that will cause a problem cause of the large drive size?
[07:21] <charlie_> what's integrity?
[07:22] <contef> How does one find version number?
[07:22] <binMonkey> kousotu: i tried and no go.  bash replies:  gsm is gnome client.  session manager does not support gnome extensions.
[07:22] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: o...yuck
[07:22] <LordCthulhu> Also, the disk drive I have to boot from is a Slave drive, if that is relevant at all
[07:22] <BlainN> contef command -v
[07:22] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: no the size wont hurt anything
[07:22] <shamoun_> LordCthulhu,try burning it at a slow speed in dao mode, that normally gives me perfect disks, sometimes faster speed disks work but they are slower to read than the ones  that i burn slower
[07:22] <LordCthulhu> shamound: OK, I'll try re-writing the disk.
[07:22] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: on the installed one, can you try hitting Esc on GRUB and then e on the first line and see what its set to?
[07:22] <BlainN> contef where "command" is the command you want the version of.
[07:23] <charlie_> that's not what she said
[07:23] <contef> BlainN, Ubuntu version
[07:23] <Retnuh> i have a game I am trying to install, it is for Linux, the Read me says to :::"Simply extract the compressed file into a directory and run"::; Which I have extracted it already, but how do I run it
[07:23] <reya277> How can I remove multiple versions of libGL.so this is causing my system to act up
[07:23] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  it's not in kcontrol?  er, KDE Control Center?
[07:23] <reya277> I should only have 3 yet I have I bunch
[07:24] <Gimm1eDat> so, sorry to have to be spoonfed.. I get to the menu that says "Install or start ubuntu".. and you want me to press esc?
[07:24] <reya277> reya276@reya276-desktop:~$ locate libGL.so
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/xorg/libGL.so.1
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/xorg/FGL.renamed.libGL.so.1.2
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/xorg/libGL.so.1.2
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/xorg/libGL.so
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[07:24] <Gimm1eDat> then type the letter E ?
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/FGL.renamed.libGL.so.1.2
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[07:24] <ectospasm> reya277:  don't flood
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/libGL.so
[07:24] <reya277> /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa
[07:24] <kousotu> binMonkey: you sure you're not on KDE then?
[07:24] <SrbinoT> Initializing Menu-Configuration
[07:24] <SrbinoT> [*]  Running Conversion Tool for older psyBNC Data.
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:27:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:28:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:29:24: error: sys/socket.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:30:19: error: netdb.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <IdNotFound> !paste | reya277
[07:24] <ubotu> reya277: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:31:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:34:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:35:19: error: fcntl.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:36:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory
[07:24] <SrbinoT> why ?
[07:24] <binMonkey> ectospasm: i don't have a menu option for kde control center.
[07:24] <reya277> sorry
[07:24] <SrbinoT> tell me why
[07:24] <SrbinoT> just thios
[07:24] <ectospasm> binMonkey:  try typing kcontrol from a terminal window
[07:24] <binMonkey> kousotu: yes.  i am running kde, Kubuntu.
[07:25] <bzak2> Can anyone help me hook up my Chocolate? BitPim doesn't seem to work with it
[07:25] <BlainN> contef -- Ask whoever did the install what version they installed from.
[07:25] <SrbinoT> hello
[07:25] <ectospasm> SrbinoT:  don't flood
[07:25] <contef> How can one make a Ubuntu system display version number?
[07:25] <SrbinoT> pls help me
[07:25] <kousotu> oh..
[07:25] <SrbinoT> tell me man
[07:25] <SrbinoT> why
[07:25] <Retnuh> i have a game I am trying to install, it is for Linux, the Read me says to :::"Simply extract the compressed file into a directory and run"::; Which I have extracted it already, but how do I run it
[07:25] <kousotu> try #kubuntu
[07:25] <SrbinoT> i cant create psyBNC
[07:25] <Gimm1eDat> bzak2.. chocolate is primarily a verizon phone
[07:25] <ectospasm> SrbinoT:  looks like you don't have the standard C library headers installed
[07:25] <bzak2> true
[07:25] <SrbinoT> and ?
[07:25] <Gimm1eDat> your going to have a hell of a time using anything.. bitpim.. motorola phone tools whatever..
[07:25] <SrbinoT> what i must to do
[07:25] <Gimm1eDat> because they lock their phones up pretty tight
[07:25] <bzak2> GimmieDat: Yes it is... but it should still work right? I mean it's mounted to ttyACM0
[07:26] <SrbinoT> ectospasm
[07:26] <Gimm1eDat> ive seen flash's work.. where you have to flash the phone but thats risky
[07:26] <ectospasm> SrbinoT:  you need to google for it...
[07:26] <Gimm1eDat> you could brick it just as easyly
[07:26] <SrbinoT> and.. ?
[07:26] <Gimm1eDat> ok..
[07:26] <reya277> can anyone show me how to remove multiple versions of "libGL.so"
[07:26] <BlainN> Retnuh,  use './<filename>'
[07:26] <ectospasm> SrbinoT:  I'm not sure why Ubuntu doesn't include them...
[07:26] <SrbinoT> 6.1
[07:26] <Retnuh> BlainN: Trying now
[07:26] <SrbinoT> its mine
[07:26] <SrbinoT> ubuntu
[07:26] <BlainN> If that doesn't work, you might need to do 'chmod +x <filename>'
[07:26] <SrbinoT> and i cant create psyBNC
[07:26] <bzak2> IS there a tut on flashing it?
[07:26] <reya277> it says I should only have 3 files so that my OpenGL drivers work correctly
[07:26] <bzak2> anywhere?
[07:27] <kousotu> ectospasm: the headers are in synaps
[07:27] <macogw> !paste | SrbinoT
[07:27] <ubotu> SrbinoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <kousotu> at least I thought I saw them
[07:27] <SrbinoT> !paste
[07:27] <macogw> SrbinoT: that shouldve been at you earlier.
[07:27] <macogw> SrbinoT: dunno why reya was targetted
[07:27] <BlainN> They were both flooding at the time.
[07:27] <sp1nter> where do i goto change the somputer name
[07:27] <SrbinoT> i cant create psyBNC
[07:27] <sp1nter> computer
[07:27] <SrbinoT> that i like
[07:27] <SrbinoT> just that
[07:28] <Retnuh> BlainN: I tried that and I am trying the exe file right? It says ./thenamehere Permision denied
[07:28] <BlainN> Retnuh -- try 'ls -l <filename>'
[07:28] <Retnuh> BlainN: K
[07:28] <Gimm1eDat> ok..
[07:28] <bzak2> GimmeDat: so chances are that my phone is inusable with linux unless I void the warranty?
[07:28] <Gimm1eDat> i press escape
[07:28] <BlainN> And paste the one line that has the file name back here.
[07:29] <contef> e.g. other distros will have /etc  /redhat-version  or   /etc/slackware-version etc.    What does ubuntu use ?  [to show version number]
[07:29] <Gimm1eDat> it exits the gui
[07:29] <Gimm1eDat> and gets me to text mode
[07:29] <Gimm1eDat> im at a boot: screen
[07:29] <macogw> BlainN: oh ok i didnt see reya's because it was littler
[07:29] <Gimm1eDat> now what?
[07:29] <BlainN> Sad, isn't it.
[07:29] <Retnuh> BlainN: It said this:  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-09 15:53 <filename>
[07:29] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: whats it say? PM me if you like
[07:29] <david_> anyone know if ubuntu installer copies all kernel modules to hard drive during installation?  I just recompiled my kernel using oldconig and the debian package created was 218MB.  Is all this installed during installation?
[07:29] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: to avoid flooding that is
[07:30] <david_> s/oldconig/oldconfig/
[07:30] <BlainN> okay, 'sudo chmod +x <filename>'  then './filename' should work.
[07:30] <Retnuh> BlainN: Trying now
[07:30] <phrozen77> hi - can someone explain me why, after a failed suspend-to-disk, firefox and thunderbird wont start anymore?
[07:30] <phrozen77> im really at a loss
[07:30] <phrozen77> google turned up nothing :|
[07:30] <Flannel> contef: lsb_release will list things.  Which gets it's data from /etc/lsb-release
[07:31] <LordCthulhu> phrozen77: Try reinstalling them
[07:31] <macogw> phrozen77: because weird stuff happens?
[07:31] <phrozen77> LordCthulhu, i tried that on an earlier occassion and it didnt work
[07:31] <macogw> phrozen77: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[07:31] <ectospasm> SrbinoT:  try "sudo apt-get install libc6"
[07:31] <arooni> hey everyone
[07:31] <phrozen77> and no
[07:31] <david_> phrozen77: are those processes still running?  d
[07:31] <macogw> phrozen77: purge, not just uninstall
[07:31] <phrozen77> i wont go shoot flies with a cannon
[07:31] <Fructose> How do you extract files from a .bin/.cue?
[07:31] <SrbinoT> hm...
[07:31] <SrbinoT> wait
[07:31] <rockets> Fructose: you need AcetoneISO
[07:32] <arooni> i finally got ubuntu live cd to boot..... but now i need to fix grub ... before when it was booting up, itd give me an error 17.  i also have the super grub disk.  what should i do?
[07:32] <rockets> Fructose: google it, the site has a .deb
[07:32] <Retnuh> BlainN: Um, yeah, now it says::  unable to find an interpreter for ./<filename.exe>
[07:32] <david_> phrozen77: will those apps start if you reboot?
[07:32] <BlainN> Is this a windows program?
[07:32] <macogw> Retnuh: why is it a .exe?
[07:32] <phrozen77> david_, nope - also, theyre not running
[07:32] <n2diy> Fructose: from a .bin you don't, I never heard of a .cue
[07:32] <Gimm1eDat> is there any advantage to going through the text version of the installer, IE, the non livecd version?
[07:32] <Retnuh> macogw: which one should I try using?
[07:32] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: more configuration stuff available
[07:32] <ectospasm> Gimm1eDat:  you can install LVM
[07:32] <macogw> Retnuh: something not made for windows
[07:33] <macogw> Retnuh: .exe is a windows program
[07:33] <david_> phrozen77: what happens if you try to run them from the commandline?  do you just get another prompt and nothing happens?
[07:33] <albert> Hi
[07:33] <phrozen77> david_, firefox starts until the session restore screen
[07:33] <cbx33> Gimm1eDat, often it'll work better on lower end machines
[07:33] <albert> hi
[07:33] <Fructose> n2diy: From a .bin you don't what?
[07:33] <BlainN> Retnuh -- if you're trying to run a windows program, you can try running it with wine, and it might work.
[07:33] <arooni> i finally got ubuntu live cd to boot..... but now i need to fix grub ... before when it was booting up, itd give me an error 17.  i also have the super grub disk.  what should i do?
[07:33] <cbx33> I've had some laptops espcially which can't boot the CD but can run Ubuntu fine once it's installed
[07:33] <Retnuh> macogw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32579/
[07:33] <macogw> Fructose: yank bits out
[07:33] <phrozen77> but no matter if i choose to restore or start a new session it just does some more on hdd and stops then
[07:33] <Retnuh> BlainN: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32579/
[07:33] <albert> How do I edit my sources list...  what's the terminal comand?
[07:33] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks!!
[07:33] <Retnuh> How do I get Wine
[07:33] <macogw> Retnuh: so why's it end in .exe?
[07:34] <david_> albert: vi /etc/apt/sources.list (as root, or sudo)
[07:34] <n2diy> Fructose: do what you just asked.
[07:34] <ectospasm> arooni:  you never stated your current problem
[07:34] <david_> albert: assuming you want to use vi as editor
[07:34] <Nolroz> phrozen77 you dont have an Optiplex 320 do you (I missed the beginning of the chat)
[07:34] <arooni> ectospasm: oops!
[07:34] <Gimm1eDat> macogw.. i PM'd you
[07:34] <macogw> albert: you probably want nano, not vi
[07:34] <phrozen77> Nolroz, nope, acer extensa 3000
[07:34] <Retnuh> macogw: I guess both options are in the folder, I just dont know how to install or what I am looking for to use.... I guess
[07:34] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> I am looking for the best way to find certin programs ... how does one go about doing this
[07:34] <Nolroz> ahh
[07:34] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: youre not registered so i didnt get it
[07:34] <albert> how to I use nano?
[07:34] <macogw> Retnuh: what all is in there?
[07:34] <albert> just changing vi for nano in the comando?
[07:34] <albert> comand..
[07:34] <Flannel> albert: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, yeah
[07:34] <david_> albert: it's very intuitive. just try it
[07:35] <macogw> albert: it gives directions at the bottom.  just remember that ^ means the ctrl key
[07:35] <Gimm1eDat> oh
[07:35] <macogw> albert: yes
[07:35] <contef> Flannel, Thanks
[07:35] <deathblooms> Need Help with window boarders !
[07:35] <Gimm1eDat> i just said that when I press escape.. I get to a screen that says boot:
[07:35] <david_> albert: yes
[07:35] <arooni> i have previously installed ubuntu 7.04... but when i try to boot up normally, grub gives me an error 17.  what should i do to fix this?  right now i have the ubuntu live cd started up.  what should i do next?>
[07:35] <charlie_> flannel sucks
[07:35] <albert> alright
[07:35] <ectospasm> deathblooms:  you've got pirates boarding your windows?  suckage
[07:35] <albert> thanks!!
[07:35] <albert> i'll try that
[07:35] <Gimm1eDat> and regardless of what i type I get a message that says "could not find kernel image"
[07:35] <BlainN> 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[07:35] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: what does it say for like (hd0,1) or whatever?
[07:35] <Fructose> n2diy: Are you actually trying to avoid helping? I don't want to waste your time or mine.
[07:36] <phrozen77> david_, running it from the commandline yields the same result - it _is_ still running (ps aux) but just wont finish starting up it seems
[07:36] <Retnuh> macogw: dat exe nfo usr isu dll txt log
[07:36] <arooni> i also have the super grub disk
[07:36] <arooni> ectospasm: is that more clear/
[07:36] <macogw> Retnuh: names of the files please?
[07:36] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> anyone got a few mins?
[07:36] <victori> what is the unstable branch name for ubuntu? and does it have the sun jdks like debian lenny?
[07:36] <deathblooms> Windows what you talking about ?
[07:36] <n2diy> Fructose: you asked a question, and I answered it.
[07:36] <charlie_> i got a few hundred mins
[07:36] <macogw> victori: theoretically, "grumpy groundhog" but it doesnt exist
[07:36] <Fructose> n2diy: Not well enough for me to understand, unfortunately. Do you mind paraphrasing for me?
[07:36] <Flannel> victori: There is no 'unstable branch', just the upcoming development version.  And youcould check at packages.ubuntu.com, gutsy
[07:36] <BlainN> Vsop -- Perhaps.  What's your question?
[07:36] <macogw> victori: current unstable is gutsy gibbon
[07:36] <ectospasm> arooni:  um... "i also have the super grub disk" doesn't sound like a problem to me, just a mere statement of fact
[07:36] <victori> thank you
[07:37] <Gimm1eDat> what do I type to get that information
[07:37] <ectospasm> Unless the "super grub disk" is something I'm not understanding
[07:37] <victori> should I just go with debian sid?
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:142: error: FILE undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:142: error: handle undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:143: error: fconfif undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:155: error: NULL undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:37] <Flannel> !paste | SrbinoT
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:158: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[07:37] <ubotu> SrbinoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:37] <charlie_> waiting for install
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:163: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:178: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function sprintf
[07:37] <victori> I pretty much just track debian unstable, works well
[07:37] <ectospasm> SrbinoT:  STOP FUCKING FLOODING.  I'd kick you if I could
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:185: error: too many arguments to function convertlists
[07:37] <david_> phrozen77: my only guess is that those mozilla apps have some funny behavior when they are interrupted/killed unexpectedly.  I suspect the problem you are having is isolated to just those apps
[07:37] <n2diy> arooni: what is a grub 17 error?
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:189: error: too many arguments to function convertlist
[07:37] <Flannel> !ops
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[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:195: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:199: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function fprintf
[07:37] <Flannel> !language | ectospasm
[07:37] <ubotu> ectospasm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:37] <NeVerSafe> bad SrbinoT  bad
[07:37] <arooni> ectospasm: right i'm just stating the toosl that i have
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:209: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function fprintf
[07:37] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:214: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit
[07:37] <SrbinoT> make: *** [all]  Error 1
[07:37] <Retnuh> macogw: I guess I need that wine, because I dont see anything that says Linux, but what is in the read me
[07:37] <SrbinoT> assailant@assailant-desktop:~/psybnc$ ./psybnc
[07:37] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: when you hit esc and the grub menu shows and has the regular one and recovery mode, if you hit "e" on the regular one, whats it say?
[07:37] <SrbinoT> bash: ./psybnc: No such file or directory
[07:37] <SrbinoT> assailant@assailant-desktop:~/psybnc$
[07:37] <macogw> Retnuh: what are you trying to install?
[07:37] <Retnuh> macogw: all the names of the files are just names associated with the game
[07:37] <Amaranth> !pastebin | SrbinoT
[07:37] <ubotu> SrbinoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:38] <Retnuh> a game
[07:38] <ectospasm> arooni:  you never stated your problem
[07:38] <phrozen77> david_, yeh, its pretty funny behaviour - esp. considering i have no clue how it fixed itself the last time
[07:38] <macogw> ectospasm: yes they did
[07:38] <macogw> ectospasm: grub error 17
[07:38] <n2diy> Fructose: Sure, you can't extract files out of a .bin.
[07:38] <BlainN> SrbinoT -- have you looked this over: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/psyBNC
[07:38] <macogw> ectospasm: and they got the grub disk in hopes that it would help fix it
[07:38] <Retnuh> macogw: thanks for your help, I will go read up on wine and try that
[07:38] <ectospasm> No, they said the had been getting that... implying that they don't now
[07:38] <Gimm1eDat> mac.. I dont have that option.. i get to a screen that gives me alot of options.. check CD integrity "start or install ubuntu" start in something graphics mode..
[07:38] <SrbinoT> yes
[07:38] <Dimensional-Door> how do i untar a .tar.b2z file?
[07:38] <phrozen77> david_, also, no matter if im going to reboot it 10 times now, it wont work
[07:38] <Gimm1eDat> when I press escape..
[07:38] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: no no not on the cd
[07:38] <SrbinoT> BlainN,
[07:38] <ectospasm> macogw:  I must've misinterpreted
[07:38] <SrbinoT> and nothing
[07:38] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: just regular
[07:38] <Retnuh> macogw: can i install wine through synaptic?
[07:39] <Gimm1eDat> i dont get anything
[07:39] <david_> Dimensional-Door: tar -xvjf filename
[07:39] <Dimensional-Door> david_ thanks
[07:39] <Gimm1eDat> it says "Error loading operating system"
[07:39] <ectospasm> Retnuh:  search for 'wine'
[07:39] <macogw> Retnuh: i think wine has its own repositories which you have to add in system > admin > software sources, but then yes
[07:39] <BlainN> SrbinoT -- then I think that's all you're going to get here.
[07:39] <SrbinoT> i cant
[07:39] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: right, before it gets to that
[07:39] <arooni> ectospasm: i basically dont know how to get past the grub error 17
[07:39] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: when it says "loading GRUB"
[07:39] <SrbinoT> i dont know
[07:39] <SrbinoT> why
[07:39] <ectospasm> arooni:  Oh, OK
[07:39] <SrbinoT> but i need that
[07:39] <Gimm1eDat> i get something that says "boot from cd"
[07:39] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: hit esc, and itll take you to a menu
[07:39] <Gimm1eDat> then it says that
[07:39] <SrbinoT> and pls help me
[07:39] <ectospasm> !google grub error 17
[07:39] <Fructose> n2diy: Well, I was using the term extract loosely, but I'm certain a .bin is a collection of files and that it is possible to break up the .bin into it's component files. I'm just trying to figure out how to do that in Linux in an efficient way.
[07:39] <SrbinoT> all off you
[07:39] <BlainN> Flooding the channel with your error messages is only going to get you kicked -- I'm surprised you haven't been kicked yet.
[07:39] <Gimm1eDat> I dont think I even get to the option to get to grub
[07:40] <Amaranth> SrbinoT: pastebin the error so i can see it
[07:40] <Gimm1eDat> it's boot from CD then right under that it says "error loading operating system"
[07:40] <macogw> BlainN: me too
[07:40] <n2diy> Fructose: Good luck.
[07:40] <arooni> any suggestions?
[07:40] <Retnuh> macogw: Is it called Wine Windows Emulator?
[07:40] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> whats the best way to search for certin progys one may be interested in?
[07:40] <phrozen77> Retnuh, nope
[07:40] <macogw> Retnuh: maybe
[07:40] <BlainN> Retnuh -- yes.
[07:40] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: that's a BIOS message
[07:40] <Gimm1eDat> right
[07:40] <Gimm1eDat> i understand that
[07:40] <astro76> Fructose, convert it to iso then you can open it with archive manager http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#bin2iso
[07:40] <phrozen77> Retnuh, wine == wine is not an emulator
[07:40] <SrbinoT> Amaranth,
[07:40] <bruenig> wine == Wine Is Not an Emulator
[07:40] <david_> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: apt-cache search 'text of interest'
[07:40] <ectospasm> Retnuh:  WINE Is NOT a Windows Emulator
[07:40] <macogw> Retnuh: technically WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator
[07:40] <SrbinoT> can you help me man ?
[07:40] <macogw> ok then...everybody types faster than me
[07:40] <Retnuh> okay
[07:40] <Retnuh> thanks
[07:40] <phrozen77> heh
[07:40] <Amaranth> SrbinoT: pastebin the error
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:142: error: FILE undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:142: error: handle undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:143: error: fconfif undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:155: error: NULL undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:158: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:163: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:178: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function sprintf
[07:41] <Amaranth> damnit
[07:41] <SrbinoT> tools/convconf.c:185: error: too many arguments to function convertlists
[07:41] <bruenig> !ops
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[07:41] <bruenig> woops
[07:41] <david_> SrbinoT: please stop that
[07:41] <Amaranth> He is gone now
[07:41] <n2diy> woops?
[07:41] <phrozen77> Amaranth, lol, was that something like /sapart ?
[07:41] <BlainN> He was warned.  I don't think English is his native language, though, so I don't think he understood.
[07:41] <phrozen77> heh
[07:41] <kousotu> Amaranth: do you find that posting under 4 lines is flodding?
[07:41] <bruenig> he speaks in gcc errors it appears
[07:42] <NeVerSafe> srbinot hey
[07:42] <macogw> heh
[07:42] <Amaranth> kousotu: under 4 lines, no
[07:42] <faileas> he was told clearly enough ...
[07:42] <BlainN> bruenig -- fluently
[07:42] <macogw> NeVerSafe: he's gone
[07:42] <charlie_> whats floddoing
[07:42] <NeVerSafe> ah good
[07:42] <BlainN> Floodingly even.
[07:42] <david_> charlie_: 'spamming' the channel with tons of text
[07:42] <ectospasm> charlie_:  posting too many lines at once into the channel
[07:42] <n2diy> ! flooding | charlie
[07:42] <ubotu> charlie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:42] <macogw> charlie_: posting freaking amounts of text from a copy and paste into the channel so what we're reading flies off the screen faster than we can read
[07:42] <faileas> charlie_ p: posting a lot of lines of things... prevents conversation from fllowing
[07:42] <Gimm1eDat> when i get to the screen that says error loading operating sysrtem
[07:42] <kousotu> charlie_: 5+ lines in a few seconds
[07:42] <Gimm1eDat> system
[07:42] <Gimm1eDat> it goes no further
[07:42] <Gimm1eDat> i have to control alt delete to go back
[07:42] <macogw> charlie_: read that as "posting freakish" not "freaking"
[07:42] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: grub isn't installed
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> should I do something preemptivley?
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> Ok
[07:43] <Amaranth> !grub | Gimm1eDat
[07:43] <ubotu> Gimm1eDat: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> im thinking that is correct
[07:43] <arooni> does anyone know how i can fix grub?  i can now see all the grub boot options, but when i select any of them i get an 'error 15 file not found'
[07:43] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: it doesnt get to "loading GRUB" at all?
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> this was a fresh install
[07:43] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: check out the one for after installing windows, it's the same thing
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> none
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> no
[07:43] <macogw> arooni: heh went from 17 to 15?
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> it doesnt say loading grub
[07:43] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> dave: i understand that.. but if i want a list like a discription of what i am looking at b4 i get it...
[07:43] <arooni> macogw: yes i'm getting better ;p
[07:43] <david_> Gimm1eDat: is this a system that was working and then all of a sudden started doing this? or is this on a new installation?
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> this drive is fresh.. nothing on it
[07:43] <Gimm1eDat> new install
[07:44] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: you did install ubuntu on it though, right?
[07:44] <Flannel> arooni: error 15 after choosing a menu entry?
[07:44] <macogw> arooni: file not found....hmm.....
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> yes
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> it ran through the install
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> or appeared to
[07:44] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> then dropped me back to the desktop
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> i restarted
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> it wouldnt load without the CD
[07:44] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: that shows you have to reinstall grub
[07:44] <Gimm1eDat> i never had grub installed
[07:45] <Gimm1eDat> this hard drive had a sun OS on it
[07:45] <BlainN> Then you need to install grub.
[07:45] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: ok, it shows you how to install it to begin with too
[07:45] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Dave : know what i mean
[07:45] <Gimm1eDat> I need grub installed before I can do the ubuntu install?
[07:45] <bullgard4> How to build the executable file 'acpiexec'? I have got in a directory 'acpiexec' the files aecommon.h, aeexec.c, aemain.c, Makefile, osunidir.c. Should I do iasl followed by all these filenames?
[07:45] <david_> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: have you tried searching on packages.debian.org?
[07:45] <BlainN> You need grub installed to load your ubuntu install.
[07:45] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: no, the ubuntu install was supposed to install it
[07:45] <Fructose> n2diy: Well, I at least confirmed that my inefficient method works. You can just convert it to an .iso, mount, and copy.
[07:45] <Gimm1eDat> because as it stands right now
[07:45] <BlainN> If your ubuntu install is viable.
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> I cant even get back to the unbuntu live cd
[07:46] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: you can't?
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> it screws up.. gives various errors or freezes
[07:46] <n2diy> Fructose: you said .bin, not .iso.
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> nope
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> i boot from the cd
[07:46] <david_> does anyone here remember dselect?  I loved that program
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> goto start or install unbuntu
[07:46] <macogw> david_: still exists
[07:46] <Amaranth> Gimm1eDat: that's a more serious problem with your system then
[07:46] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> david: thank you thats what i was gettin at...
[07:46] <nextse7en> Alright, I've got a kind of far out there q, that deals with linux like os's in general.  I downloaded an un-gzipped an app, it decompressed the app a nxmp3play*  it does not appear to be executable, what would the unix ommand be to make it executable?
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> ive checked the cd
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> even burned a new one
[07:46] <david_> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: sounds like you can still install it
[07:46] <Gimm1eDat> this is a brand new hard-drive
[07:47] <Gimm1eDat> and, i had another drive in there.. same result
[07:47] <macogw> nextse7en: chmod +x filename
[07:47] <BlainN> nextse7en and that's if it's a compiled binary that's ready to run (or a script that's ready to run).
[07:47] <Gimm1eDat> it tries to boot and does one of a couple things.. it either, fails out with various errors.. some infinite loop some just single line..
[07:47] <david_> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: aptitude (with no arguments) will also work
[07:48] <Gimm1eDat> or, it begins to go.. gets to the status bar thing.. gets 1 50th or so of the way and does one of two things.. freezes... or eventually goes into an error screen
[07:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> David: thanks for your attention.. i know its hard here at times.. just needed a list of how or what i was looking for in general
[07:48] <Gimm1eDat> once again, sometimes repeating, sometimes just a single line
[07:48] <Gimm1eDat> often I see a tty yada yada
[07:48] <Gimm1eDat> is there something I need to disable in the bios?
[07:48] <defrysk> Gimm1eDat, sounds like hardwareprobs
[07:48] <Gimm1eDat> this is an AMD chip, should that be an issue?
[07:49] <pretender> can anyone help with a mythtv problem where the sound cuts out every couuple of seconds
[07:49] <david_> Gimm1eDat: no
[07:49] <ectospasm> pretender:  #mythtv-users
[07:49] <Gimm1eDat> hmmmm..
[07:49] <Gimm1eDat> ive got another video card
[07:49] <Gimm1eDat> i guess ill try that
[07:49] <Gimm1eDat> that is the only thing on this box I can change
[07:49] <Gimm1eDat> everything else is integrated
[07:49] <pretender> no one appers to be logged into mythtv users
[07:50] <Fructose> n2diy: Yeah, I said .bin/.cue. What of it?
[07:50] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: i dont think the video card would be it....could be chipset or the bios, at least in my head those make sense
[07:50] <ectospasm> pretender:  I'm in there now, and I see 174 people/bots
[07:50] <Gimm1eDat> hmmm.. let me power up the windows install and Ill find out that info
[07:51] <Gimm1eDat> they are on differnt hard-drives, fyi.. im not running both at the same time
[07:51] <defrysk> Fructose, just do cdrdao write blah.cue to burn the files
[07:51] <defrysk> Fructose, on the command line interface
[07:52] <Fructose> defrysk: I already solved my problem, and I wasn't trying to burn any files.
[07:52] <defrysk> Fructose, ok
[07:52] <macogw> ectospasm: i think he's saying theyre all afk
[07:52] <nextse7en> macogw: No good. I did that, it seemed to complete, but still will not execute.  Its like I have to qualify something in the command line, When I double click in the gui, it executes, when I type it in the shell, it says Command not found.
[07:53] <BlainN> nextse7en './<filename>'
[07:53] <macogw> nextse7en: did you do ./filename or just filename?
[07:53] <sdouble> I have a system stats desktop applet that sayd I'm downloading around 20 KB/s  but I don't think I'm downloading anything.  Is there a way to see what's doing this?
[07:53] <nextse7en> just filename.
[07:53] <MSIGuy> So, i"m having problems with my network, wireless.
[07:53] <BlainN> YOu need the dot slash first.
[07:53] <macogw> sdouble: maybe its downloading the people chatting with on here
[07:53] <Jaikkanen> anyone know software good for video compression?
[07:53] <macogw> MSIGuy: what card?
[07:54] <MSIGuy> Whenever I go to put my wep key in, it says I need to input my root password for the nm-applet
[07:54] <sdouble> If it uses up 20-30 KB/sec, I'd be very surprised
[07:54] <nextse7en> WORKS, thank you blainN, macogw
[07:54] <BlainN> You're welcome.
[07:54] <MSIGuy> The problem is, I use my password, that works for everywhere else, but it says its wrong.
[07:54] <LordCthulhu> MSIGuy: Mindless Self Indulgence?
[07:54] <macogw> MSIGuy: root password, or keyring password?
[07:54] <MSIGuy> keyring yeah!
[07:54] <BlainN> Give me an easy question and I'm your guy.
[07:54] <macogw> MSIGuy: it uses a keyring to store your wep & wpa keys
[07:54] <MSIGuy> LordCthulhu: MicroStar International.
[07:55] <macogw> MSIGuy: just make one up and itll store them all so when you switch to different networks you dont need to memorize all the keys
[07:55] <macogw> MSIGuy: you didnt already set the keyring password to something else accidentally?
[07:55] <Caplain> hey
[07:55] <BlainN> Caplain: what?
[07:55] <lumgwada> hey I've upgraded from dapper to feisty and notice the splash screens gone during boot. Is that the case generally?
[07:56] <Caplain> BlainN, just saying hi
[07:56] <BlainN> Oh.  Hi.
[07:56] <MSIGuy> macogw: I might have.
[07:56] <etzerd> hello all
[07:56] <BlainN> lumgwada: Are you wanting more splash screens?
[07:56] <Flannel> lumgwada: no.  And it could be caused by you upgrading from dapper to feisty without going through edgy.
[07:56] <macogw> MSIGuy: so the actual question is "how do i delete my old keyring password?"
[07:56] <Caplain> is there such a thing as speech recognition for ubuntu?
[07:56] <arooni> can someone helop me get grub working
[07:56] <MSIGuy> I guess that would be the question...  lol
[07:56] <etzerd> ?
[07:56] <Pelo> g'night folks
[07:56] <Caplain> arooni, whats wrong with it?
[07:56] <Caplain> cya Pelo
[07:57] <BlainN> Gnight Pelo
[07:57] <macogw> Caplain: i believe there is speech recognition for linux, but i dont know if ubuntu's repos have it
[07:57] <etzerd> I cannot play video in internet, site like www.foxnews.com
[07:57] <sp1nter> how do I change the computer name
[07:57] <etzerd> I have sound but not video. Can anyone help
[07:57] <Gimm1eDat> might have something to do with flash etz
[07:57] <arooni> basically ubuntu is already installed... and grub comes up when i boot.... but when i select any of the options.... i get a 'file not found' error.  i think i might need to edit my grub conf file?
[07:57] <BlainN> etzerd, have you installed VLC or Mplayer?
[07:57] <MSIGuy> So, does anyone know how to reset my keyring password?
[07:57] <kousotu> etzerd: be glad you have sound?
[07:57] <lumgwada> Flannel: BlainN I did go via edgy...all 700 megs worth... not really fussed as long as it boots quicker
[07:57] <macogw> arooni: its menu.lst, not grub.conf
[07:57] <macogw> arooni: you can do it by booting a live cd and mounting your hard drive and editting it
[07:58] <etzerd> not I do not install VLC nor Mpalyer
[07:58] <nextse7en> macogw, One more question if you don't mind I downloaded doom for my specific architecture, when I unzipped it, I got doom.binary, what do I do with that file in unix to make it executable?
[07:58] <Flannel> lumgwada: Well, As far as I know, all the screens are there.  But, I suppose I've never really noticed.
[07:58] <astro76> MSIGuy, this link will tell you how to reset the password, in addition to installing libpam-keyring so you'll never have to enter a keyring password again
[07:58] <BlainN> lumgwada:  Just checking.  I generally loathe splash-screens.
[07:58] <etzerd> what's the command to install VLC?
[07:58] <unagi> is there a way to save my current state of ubuntu and save it do a cd so that if i have to reinstall ill come back to here?
[07:58] <macogw> nextse7en: i assume the "chmod +x filename" thing again
[07:58] <MSIGuy> astro76: nice.
[07:58] <arooni> macogw: ok u knwo more than i do... ;p... and heres my output from sudo lshw: http://pastie.caboo.se/85008
[07:58] <sp1nter> how do I change the computer name
[07:58] <macogw> arooni: i dont think lshw will have anything to do with it
[07:59] <macogw> !hostname
[07:59] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[07:59] <BlainN> 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[07:59] <macogw> sp1nter: read what ubotu said
[07:59] <etzerd> BlainN: what is the command to install VLC?
[07:59] <BlainN> 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[07:59] <Flannel> !cloning > unagi
[07:59] <Gimm1eDat> alrighty.. chipset is via kt133a, processor is duron 1800.. bios is phoenix technologies, version 6.00 PG.. any other info needed?
[07:59] <etzerd> I just did that it doesn't work
[07:59] <acoustic> !hostname
[07:59] <MSIGuy> astro76: What link?
[07:59] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:00] <macogw> etzerd: mozilla-plugin-vlc may also be needed
[08:00] <wtvrd> etzerd: 'vlc' might not be the package name
[08:00] <BlainN> etzerd -- what happened?
[08:00] <Lucios> !squid
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <macogw> wtvrd: it is
[08:00] <BlainN> I think VLC might not be available from the out-of-the-box repos.
[08:00] <astro76> !info vlc
[08:00] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[08:00] <macogw> BlainN: ooo
[08:00] <JDLimbo> manny_, every tutorial on uninstalling vista assumes you're using XP
[08:00] <JDLimbo> wahooooo, I said man not manny_
[08:00] <macogw> etzerd: go to system > admin > software sources
[08:01] <astro76> MSIGuy, sorry..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2776815
[08:01] <etzerd> thanks macogw
[08:01] <wtvrd> etzerd: what does apt-cache search vlc' give you?
[08:01] <Gimm1eDat> macogw.. do those specs look acceptable?
[08:01] <wtvrd> etzerd: what does apt-cache search vlc' give you?
[08:01] <MSIGuy> astro76: Thank you!
[08:01] <wtvrd> oops
[08:01] <macogw> etzerd: and enable the "community maintained open source software" one
[08:01] <wtvrd> tried correcting my quotations
[08:01] <lumgwada> one other thing... I can only stick icons on half of my desktop... I've deleted .nautilus and gconf but that hasn't fixed it... anyone seen this?
[08:01] <etzerd> it gives me a bunch of error like depend so many time
[08:01] <macogw> etzerd: then run "sudo apt-get update"
[08:02] <Gimm1eDat> im looking through the install guide.. and I never got to the last part.. where it asks you to restart or remain in livecd
[08:02] <BlainN> wtvrd -- it's okay.  repeating comments to etzerd is what all the cool kids are doing.
[08:02] <Gimm1eDat> anyways.. im at a standstill..
[08:02] <BlainN> Gimm1eDat:  That's what I was thinking might have happened.    You should have more luck with it
[08:04] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: so youd want to try again and do it from the command line to see if any errors show up.  squashfs means an error reading the disk.  either bad disk (but you checked you said) or your drive is bad
[08:04] <etzerd> yes
[08:04] <Gimm1eDat> but i tell you what.. when i went to the screen where it says like "go to limited graphics mode install" or whatever
[08:04] <etzerd> dpkg
[08:04] <Gimm1eDat> that is what got me to the desktop
[08:04] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: "it's dusty" falls under the category of "bad drive"
[08:04] <macogw> Gimm1eDat: safe graphics mode
[08:04] <Gimm1eDat> might have been a fluke however cause now I goto the same thing and it does ths same bull.. just freezes, errors out, etc
[08:05] <BlainN> etzerd -- tell me about your system -- when was it installed, what version of ubuntu do you have, etc.
[08:05] <hysteriamania> where is the best place to hot chick wallpaper
[08:05] <arooni> i was following the howto... recover ubuntu after installing windows.... but hwen i did this:  To make sure it was the correct one, run ls /mnt/root/boot, which sould output something like this : ..... i got no parititon that had the desired folders........ question:  should i reinstall ubuntu?
[08:05] <Gimm1eDat> mac.. i got alllll night, so if you have the patience, i have the time, ill do command line
[08:05] <BlainN> hysteriamania: google
[08:05] <wtvrd> hysteriamania: that's just slightly offtopic
[08:05] <wastedfluid> hey guys.  having problems with network manager.. after i hibernate, it won't reconnect to my wireless network.  my windows computer disconnects/reconnects fine, and i never had this problem until 7.04.  Any ideas how to restart the wireless networking in Ubuntu?
[08:05] <etzerd> I just install it tonight. and it is version 7.04
[08:06] <hysteriamania> it will keep my interest while i'm trying to upgrade ubuntu
[08:06] <leale> HI
[08:07] <BlainN> etzerd:  So you enabled the repositories, and then, when you tried 'sudo apt-get update' it barfed, is that right?
[08:07] <leale> I'M ITALIAN
[08:07] <leale> AND YOU?
[08:07] <Flannel> !caps | leale
[08:07] <ubotu> leale: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!   This channel is support only, thanks.
[08:08] <macogw> hysteriamania: yeah pretty much
[08:08] <macogw> hysteriamania: as far as i'm aware
[08:08] <macogw> hysteriamania: though not out of the box
[08:08] <leale> Flannel, I need support
[08:08] <Gimm1eDat> how do I go about doing the command line install?
[08:08] <lumgwada> hysteriamania: probably not beta
[08:08] <leale> my girlfriend left me
[08:08] <wtvrd> Gimm1eDat: do a 'text-mode' install
[08:08] <Flannel> Gimm1eDat: use the alternate CD.  It'll ask the same questions the other installer did
[08:08] <Flannel> leale: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <Gimm1eDat> oh
[08:08] <BlainN> leale: Not that kinda support in this channel.
[08:08] <Gimm1eDat> alright
[08:09] <BlainN> Sorry to hear that, though.
[08:09] <leale> OH
[08:09] <hysteriamania> beta was what i was hoping for
[08:09] <Gimm1eDat> i guess that is dependent on the alternate CD huh
[08:09] <hysteriamania> conversion prog?
[08:10] <macogw> hysteriamania: ffmpeg does transcoding....
[08:10] <wckdkl0wn> can direct draw video drivers be installed on innotek virtual box?
[08:10] <leale> but I've a real question
[08:10] <hysteriamania> work for most beta?
[08:11] <sciboy> Hi, which web development environment do you recommend? I need templating and so far Quanta Plus and SCREE
[08:11] <sciboy> SCREEM popped up*
[08:11] <node86> anybody know how to use imagemagick to convert a gimp file to a jpg that has multiple layers?
[08:12] <Malachi> What's a good note-taking/task program that will automatically remind/update me?
[08:12] <bruenig> gimp has a file format?
[08:12] <khermans> node86, jpg doesnt have multiple layers right/
[08:12] <Malachi> Tomboy is great, but I forget to restart it, and it doesn't remind me.
[08:12] <macogw> sciboy: you can use Eclipse
[08:12] <khermans> Malachi, google calendar?
[08:12] <BlainN> node86:  Why not just save as jpeg from gimp?
[08:12] <macogw> sciboy: for development in pretty much anything
[08:12] <Malachi> khermans: Yeah, but I'm looking for something that integrates into Ubuntu
[08:12] <hysteriamania> what is the best video and audio software for ubuntu?
[08:12] <macogw> Malachi: i put that into my calendar. i use sunbird
[08:12] <Malachi> Google Calender is awesome, though.
[08:12] <khermans> Malachi, add tombot to startup
[08:12] <linux__alien> A very long Fedora Core user going to convert to Ubuntu
[08:13] <bruenig> hysteriamania, mplayer for both
[08:13] <khermans> hysteriamania, vlc
[08:13] <node86> khermans, right, jpg doesn't have multiple layers...
[08:13] <Malachi> khermans: Then there's the reminder thing.
[08:13] <macogw> Malachi: evolution is the built in outlook-type-thing in ubuntu
[08:13] <BlainN> hysteriamania: Probably VLC and Mplayer (although I like Totem for dvd playback).
[08:13] <hysteriamania> looking for video format soft
[08:13] <wtvrd> node86: I'm not sure imagemagick can do that
[08:13] <leale> If I spinturase the super-casuled with left-right *scape-lament*, and - even if I respect the autority - I write "writily prefaline" on a public wall, Ubuntu will help me?
[08:13] <Malachi> macogw: I use Thunderbird, though. If Evolution can remind me without being started, that'd work.
[08:13] <linux__alien> I ve been a long time fedora core user so i am going to install Ubuntu 7.04 .
[08:13] <macogw> Malachi: ah!
[08:13] <BlainN> Kaboodle has been pretty annoying from here.
[08:13] <lumgwada> is launchpad.net down for everyone?
[08:13] <macogw> Malachi: well then get Lightning
[08:13] <Flannel> lumgwada: yes
[08:13] <linux__alien> anything that i ve to take care of while installing
[08:13] <lumgwada> k
[08:13] <Malachi> macogw: Hm...
[08:13] <Flannel> linux__alien: nope, it's pretty straight forward
[08:13] <leale> ...emh?
[08:13] <macogw> Malachi: it's mozilla's calendar for thunderbird
[08:13] <node86> BlainN saving each image in gimp would take forever- i have several hundreds or maybe even thousands of images i need to convert
[08:14] <macogw> Malachi: sunbird is the standalone mozilla calendar
[08:14] <Malachi> macogw: Does it do reminders? That's the big thing I'm looking for.