[00:01] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: not sure kwin4 is a bit different
[00:01] <szrhawaii> it took a long time to finish my icons and i dont want to have to redo that all over again
[00:01] <szrhawaii> so it woul basically wipe everything out huh
[00:01] <szrhawaii> maybe i need  to save my themes and icon set
[00:01] <szrhawaii> just in cashttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2e
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: i think icons will stand
[00:02] <szrhawaii> will my ccsm and beryl still stand too
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: sure
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> beryl has been merged with compiz
[00:05] <szrhawaii> so the stuff it alters thats the only things it will change
[00:05] <szrhawaii> yeah i know i just like using it as two things cause they are two setting managers
[00:05] <kalorin_> is anyone else having issues with the kde4 desktop and drivers from 8.10?
[00:06] <kalorin_> ie. I can't get the task bar to stay where I tell it between X restarts, the 2nd monitor acts all flaky in twinview for nvidia
[00:06] <kalorin_> just strange stuff that worked great under 7.10
[00:09] <kalorin_> and in the upper right corner of my screen it appears like there is a second one of those cashews that's about 15 or 20 pixels off so that there are two fo them and they look like 1 blurry one, but I can click on one or the other and they behave different
[00:09] <kalorin_> it's really strange
[00:09] <szrhawaii> hey actionrparsnip the thing says it would be able to get into through thesession manager does that mean that i can use that plus my regular settings right now
[00:13] <szrhawaii> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 can anyone tell me if number 3 on this forum means i wont lose my current session and its only adding another session to my kdm session manager
[00:14] <kalorin_> sorry I dumped
[00:15] <kalorin_> if anyone answered anything about weirdness with the xorg driver for nvidia (version 177)
[00:15] <kalorin_> seems like my 2nd screen just doesn't work right at all
[00:15] <kalorin_> it's almost like it's not part of the desktop or something odd
[00:16] <szrhawaii> i guess no ones home
[00:19] <benbloom> what's a good video inspecting tool for linux?
[00:21] <earle> Hullo folks. Are there packages available for KDE 4.2b1?
[00:22] <benbloom> !video
[00:23] <stdin> earle: not yet
[00:24] <mirian_> hola
[00:24] <mirian_> como estas
[00:24] <earle> stdin: okay, thanks.
[00:25] <earle> I can wait for the full release :)
[00:25] <kalorin_> anyone any good with the new org stuff
[00:25] <mirian_> hello habla spaniol
[00:25] <kalorin_> got a really strange issue with a 2nd monitor and trying to do twinview on an 8600GT
[00:25] <stdin> !es | mirian_
[00:25] <benbloom> anyone recommend a good util for inspecting info about video files?
[00:26] <mirian_> hola como estas
[00:28] <mirian_> bueno que te gusta hacer en los tiempos libres
[00:29] <mirian_> a mi me gusta ir al cine i a ti
[00:31] <mirian_> dejenlo co......................................................s
[00:31] <mirian_> m.d.h
[00:32] <mirian_> çç
[00:32] <mirian_> y
[00:32] <lupine_85> hello hello. Running intrepid on an AMD X2 5000+ CPU, and it looks to my untrained eye as though the CPU is being throttled at 1GHz (can go up to 2.6GHz). How do I undo this?
[00:32] <lupine_85> thewolf.
[00:32] <mirian_> nda en lo comun
[00:33] <lupine_85> is asking ;
[00:33] <lupine_85> ;)
[00:33] <lupine_85> stupid keyboard
[00:33] <mirian_> stupid
[00:36] <burn_> anyone know any good torrent program? better than ktorrent?
[00:37] <colin_> rtorrent
[00:38] <colin_> azereus... although it is no longer actively developed
[00:39] <burn_> roterrnt need to be copliled
[00:39] <burn_> compiled*
[00:39] <burn_> rtorrent* :D
[00:39] <colin_> it should be in the aptitude repos
[00:39] <colin_> but its text based
[00:40] <burn_> how about bittorrent?
[00:40] <colin_> never used it
[00:40] <lupine_85> rtorrent is pretty win
[00:40] <lupine_85> I use the kde4 version of ktorrent, which is pretty good although it does tend to suck up CPU
[00:41] <colin_> once you get the hang of rtorrent, it is really sweet, you can make it do anything
[00:41] <burn_> until i learn how to compile ill rather use torrent with .deb extension :D
[00:42] <colin_> aptitude search rtorrent
[00:42] <lupine_85> lupine@nick:~$ apt-cache search rtorrent |wc -l
[00:42] <lupine_85> 1
[00:42] <lupine_85> :p
[00:42] <burn_> why apt-cache?
[00:43] <colin_> that searches the aptitude cache on the local machine
[00:47] <benbloom> anyone know about video codecs? I have some files that are div3 and div4 but I need to try to change the meta-data to divx so that my Xbox will play them. any way to edit meta-data? or do I have to reencode the files?
[00:48] <benbloom> also-- anyone recommend a good kubuntu video encoder for transferring files like mkv to avi etc?
[00:54] <StevenX> Hello. Is there any way to install KDE on ubuntu, without having the kde icons and menus clutter my desktop when I use gnome?
[00:55] <lupine_85> StevenX: clever fuseness with /usr/share/menu?
[00:57] <lupine_85> ah well, bed time
[01:02] <kevman> So.... How do I add a printer in 8.1? The printer configuration thing seems to be busted.
[01:10] <Adola> Hello!
[01:13] <Adola> Hello?
[01:15] <juceki> hi all
[01:17] <juceki> anyone alive??
[01:23] <legodude_> kevman: does it crash on you?
[01:51] <CornholioTR> hi
[01:52] <CornholioTR> how do i set krusader as default file manager?
[01:52] <JontheEchidna> CornholioTR: which version of Kubuntu?
[01:52] <CornholioTR> 8.10
[01:52] <JontheEchidna> System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> File associations
[01:52] <JontheEchidna> Find "directory" under the "inode" section
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> from there you can choose the app that will be associated with folders (and will thus be your default file manager)
[01:53] <CornholioTR> ok
[01:53] <CornholioTR> thanks
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> You're welcome
[01:57] <kevman> legodude_: no, when I go to add a printer, it just sits there with an hourglass.
[01:59] <legodude_> as soon as you click add?
[01:59] <legodude_> you can also try adding a printer via the cups web interface
[01:59] <legodude_> I had a problem where it would hang on me when trying to select the printer driver
[02:00] <linux29684> jj_galvez: i tried a sudo chmod 444 on it, and i have no scripting ability
[02:00] <linux29684> woops, wrong line
[02:00] <linux29684> anyone know how to lock the /etc/resolv.conf from changing upon reboot? kvpnc bug keeps changing it.
[02:00] <linux29684> theres my question
[02:02] <linux29684> no one in #ubuntu could figure it out for the past two days
[02:07] <linux29684> anyone know how to lock the /etc/resolv.conf from changing upon reboot? kvpnc bug keeps changing it.
[02:10] <linux29684> anyone know how to lock the /etc/resolv.conf from changing upon reboot? kvpnc bug keeps changing it.
[02:11] <_2> linux29684 chattr can
[02:11] <linux29684> i tried that _2, didn't work
[02:11] <_2> then you didn't do it right
[02:11] <linux29684> can you provide the command?
[02:12] <linux29684> i'll run it as root on /etc/resolv.conf
[02:12] <_2> chattr
[02:12] <karenlizmty15> español porfas
[02:12] <_2> !es
[02:12] <linux29684> chattr /etc/resolv.conf
[02:12] <linux29684> Must use '-v', =, - or +
[02:12] <_2> yep.
[02:12] <linux29684> # chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[02:12] <linux29684> chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[02:13] <_2> live CD ?
[02:13] <linux29684> nope
[02:13] <_2> what weird fs ?
[02:13] <linux29684> ext2
[02:14] <ibuffy> where is alsaconf typically located?
[02:14] <_2> then you aren't superuser or something
[02:14] <ibuffy> because "find /* -name alsaconf | less" didn't show me much
[02:14] <linux29684> im running as root, as seen above
[02:14] <_2> ibuffy /var/lib/alsa  iirc
[02:14] <ibuffy> my sound isn't working: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory "
[02:14] <linux29684> let me try chmod 777 to it and then the command
[02:14] <ibuffy> thanks _2 i'll take a look
[02:15] <linux29684> still no go
[02:15] <ibuffy> _2 nope
[02:15] <_2> linux29684 i'm running as root too, but i'm not usperuser ;/
[02:15] <kabotage> how do i look for errors? i still cant login after upgrade.
[02:15] <ibuffy> my soundcard is recognized, but i can't run alsaconf :|
[02:16] <linux29684> _2: sudo does nothing different than root for the chattr command
[02:16] <linux29684> _2: any other synatax i should use for chattr, or is there another way to lock it?
[02:17]  * _2 rolls eyes,....    linux29684 maybe the file is opened and locked,    you could press alt+sysRQ+e   login and run the command then run init 6
[02:17] <linux29684> sysRQ button?
[02:17] <ibuffy> isn't there a feature of apt-get which shows where the files it downloads is installed?
[02:18]  * _2 grumbles but locking the /etc/resolv.conf file is not the prefered methood
[02:19] <linux29684> _2: what is the sysRQ button?
[02:19] <_2> ibuffy apt ?     idk.    dpkg -L package-name
[02:19] <linux29684> _2: i can copy a paste a command into terminal; maybe use a command && command so i can copy and paste it
[02:19] <_2> linux29684 depends on the keyboard.  might be with the print_screen
[02:19] <linux29684> _2: ahh, i see it now, nvr used that button b4
[02:22] <_2> ibuffy i wasn't following your issue closely,  i don't think you will find an alsaconf command on ubuntu
[02:22] <_2> !sound > ibuffy
[02:22] <_2> !pulse
[02:23] <linux29684> back
[02:23] <linux29684> thank you, that seems to have worked
[02:23] <linux29684> can you tell me exactly what that command did behind the curtain?
[02:24] <_2> linux29684 make a note of what you did there,  you may need to change it some day and wonder why you can't
[02:24] <CornholioTR> hi
[02:24] <_2> linux29684 which command ?
[02:24] <linux29684> _2: i can do that to change it again? i'll have to post on ubuntuforums.org
[02:24] <CornholioTR> i have a problem with changing the default file manager
[02:24] <CornholioTR> it won't get past applying
[02:24] <CornholioTR> it does it again and again
[02:25] <linux29684> _2: the ctrl+SysRQ+E then init 6
[02:25] <_2> linux29684 you can post what you will, but the idea to make the file immutable was yours, not mine.  i only told you how to do what you wanted to do.
[02:26] <linux29684> _2: is that for good, or can i post an instructions on how to "undo" that command?
[02:26] <linux29684> if it is, i'll go in with a live cd and wipe the file :)
[02:26] <linux29684> (if i ever need to change it in the future)
[02:29] <brunito_> ola
[02:29] <brunito_> alguien x ahi _
[02:30] <_2> linux29684 as per the kernel hotkey "magic sysRQ" there are several of them   alt+sysRQ+ { E R U O B } probably others i didn't think of.   they do things like  "E kill all running provesses" "U unmount and/or remount readonly all filesystems" "B boot"  ... there is plenty of info on the web,     the chattr command can be undone yes.   man chattr   for more on that,  and the init command changes runlevels, same thing that the gui "r
[02:30] <brunito_> alguien x ahi
[02:30] <benbloom> anyone feel like helping me with a quick scripting issue?
[02:30] <brunito_> alguien habla espaniol ???
[02:30] <benbloom> !es | brunito_:
[02:30] <_2> benbloom shell script
[02:30] <cadaverpimp> !es | brunito_
[02:31] <benbloom> yes _2
[02:31] <brunito_> thank you
[02:31] <benbloom> np
[02:31] <_2> linux29684 (power down == init 0)
[02:31] <_2> benbloom say on.
[02:31] <linux29684> awesome, thanx _2
[02:32]  * benbloom says "on"...
[02:32] <_2> benbloom there is only room for one smartass in this channel and i'm it ;/
[02:33]  * benbloom dejectedly kicks the dirt
[02:35] <benbloom> _2: is there a way to make a bash for call respect spaces in a filename?
[02:35] <benbloom> sry _2: is there a way to make a bash "for" call respect spaces in a filename?
[02:36] <_2> benbloom show example
[02:36] <dr_willis> benbloom,  you have to resort to fancy quoteing in many cases dependign onw hat you are doing
[02:37] <benbloom> ok. http://pastebin.com/d2466ae3d _2
[02:37] <_2> benbloom i think you want something like   ls /basedir | while read q ;do blaw with "$q" ;done    ?
[02:37] <benbloom> exactly _2
[02:37] <_2> k,  then yes.
[02:38] <benbloom> well more or less. it's actually for i in `ls *.avi`; do mencoder "$i" -o /home/benbloom/Video/"$i" -mf fps=25 -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidencopts bitrate=1024; done
[02:38] <dr_willis> the problem can get to be how  you get quotes around names.. and one call strips them.. then the next tool gets the unquoted list and spaces get confused :()
[02:38] <benbloom> not sure if my output line is proper
[02:38] <dr_willis> I am not sure that  'ls *.avi' is the proper way to get a list like that.   there may be a better way
[02:39] <dr_willis> you could proberly script it in some way other then a 'for' loop also. with xargs, or find,
[02:39] <benbloom> i borrowed it from an unrar script someone passed to me. not very elegant but I just haven't taken the time to brush up on my scripting
[02:40] <benbloom> I originally had it find. same problem
[02:40] <dr_willis> persobnally... i would just change all file names and remove the spaces. replaceing them with _
[02:40] <_2> benbloom find is handy for weird file names too    find /base/dir -maxdepth 1 -type f -iname *.avi -exec 'your command here with "{}" ' \;  # the '{}'  or "{}" will expand to either  'file names' or "file names" respectively.
[02:40]  * dr_willis agrees with _2  :)
[02:41] <dr_willis>  creative quoteing around the {} is the trick I think.
[02:41] <_2> yep.
[02:41] <dr_willis> its REAL fun when filenames get ' or " in them
[02:41] <benbloom> yeah' that looks very nice _2
[02:41] <_2> dr_willis i have dir names with both ' and "  plus new lines in them....
[02:41] <dr_willis> and my windows user friends wonder why i HAMMER on them to NEVER use spaces infilenames, or '
[02:41] <_2> tricky isn't the word.
[02:41] <dr_willis>  They then discover why.. once they start using Linux.
[02:42] <benbloom> all I have is spaces. it's a massive collection ov videos
[02:42] <benbloom> got it from a windows user
[02:42] <dr_willis> theres simple scripts that can rename files and remove spaces, replaceing them with _
[02:42]  * _2 knods
[02:42] <ibuffy> how to adjust the digital clock to not go past the 12 hr mark?
[02:42] <DaSkreech> _2: Whhhhy?
[02:42] <ibuffy> no 22:42 for me, thanks
[02:42] <ibuffy> _2: thanks for your help
[02:43] <bdizzle_> hi, I was wondering if there is a way to modify the shape of the bottom panel in 8.10 ?
[02:43] <_2> DaSkreech heh   well it's a long story really
[02:43] <ibuffy> sound is working now
[02:43] <dr_willis> ibuffy,    you mean set it to non-military time. :) and i havent figured it out either
[02:43] <ibuffy> the ubuntu on sound was nice
[02:43] <bdizzle_> I'm thinking of something like a curved cutout
[02:43] <ibuffy> dr_willis: yes, non-military, non-american time :)
[02:43] <DaSkreech> _2: Well you kept the Dir names with a carriage return in there so you must like it
[02:43] <ibuffy> everyday american time*
[02:43] <_2> ibuffy kde3 right click and configure  not sure about kde4   it's a languages... setting
[02:44] <ibuffy> kde4 here
[02:44] <dr_willis> ive anways been annoyed at kubuntu for defaulting to 24hr format.
[02:44]  * ibuffy likes the improvement on kde4
[02:44] <dr_willis> ive not really noticed anything worht liking on kde4 for my needs.
[02:44] <_2> DaSkreech basicly it confonds simple scripts and commands that might be destructive to the content.
[02:44] <dr_willis> having to unlearn/change all my work habbits..
[02:45] <_2> dr_willis here here.    and defaulting to first day of the weak on monday too
[02:46] <_2> i'm like "don't change my calendar bit*!&"
[02:46] <DaSkreech> _2: Protection layer? You just escape the space when yo uare cding to it?
[02:47] <_2> DaSkreech sort of yeah
[02:47] <DaSkreech> _2: Monday being the first day of the Week is an ISO standard
[02:47] <_2> DaSkreech can't help that,  it's wrong.
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Write to the ISO and let them know
[02:49]  * _2 was not mounting a formal protest,  just added a comment to what was already being said...
[02:50] <bdizzle_> yeah, how do we change the clock on KDE 4 back to 12 hr format?
[02:51] <_2> bdizzle_ look for system settings languages something???
[02:51] <_2> it should be part of that area
[02:51] <brunito> demen
[02:51] <kevman> Yeah, its in regional in the system settings
[02:52] <brunito> ubuntu espaniol
[02:52] <brunito> ola
[02:52] <_2> !es > brunito
[02:52] <brunito> thank you
[02:52] <bdizzle_> where?
[02:54] <benbloom> find /home/benbloom/Downloads/Torrents/Disney/Other/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -iname *.avi -exec 'mencoder "{}" -o /home/benbloom/Video/"{}" -mf fps=25 -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidencopts bitrate=1024'
[02:54] <benbloom> find: paths must precede expression
[02:55] <benbloom> sorry. didn't mean to paste the \n's so that's the error i get _2, dr_willis
[02:56] <_2> has to end with   \;
[02:56] <bdizzle_> ok, got it
[02:57] <bdizzle_> so now I'm trying to figure out how to open the K-Menu using a keyboard shortcut
[02:57] <_2> benbloom also you may need to to but the command in a script so that you don't have to specify the -options to mencoder on the command line.
[02:57] <bdizzle_> and what it is listed under in Keyboard shortcuts
[02:57] <dr_willis> work time for me.. byeeeeee
[02:58] <sachith> hai
[02:58] <XN1ghtX> Ok, I have an issue with the graphic interface, since I just downloaded the latest nvidia drivers the graphic interface won't load up anymore, I can still acess all the terminals though
[02:58] <XN1ghtX> anyone can help me out ?
[02:59] <sachith> im also having problem with my nvida
[02:59] <sachith> cant view videos well
[03:00] <XN1ghtX> well for me it's more like I can't load the graphic interface at all
[03:01] <_2> benbloom perhaps http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/20222
[03:02] <_2> benbloom you can test that, on a safe dir.   it will need two arguments both of which are dirs   source dir  and output dir
[03:03] <bdizzle_> is there a kde4 channel?
[03:05] <ibuffy> =should regular users (parents) be included in these groups: adm, dip, plugdev, lpadmin, admin
[03:05] <ibuffy> (they often fall for spam)
[03:05] <benbloom> so when I call it it's scriptname.txt pathtoavis pathforoutputfiles _2?
[03:06] <benbloom> thanks for that. It will go a long way to helping teach me to fish so to speak
[03:06] <_2> benbloom yes and assuming it works   here's a more robust one http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/20230
[03:08] <_2> seeing that the filenames were M$ created i don't think there will be any " in them so i used "" to quote them.    iirc double quote is forbiden in M$ filenames
[03:08] <DaSkreech> bdizzle_: #kde
[03:09] <_2> someone can confirm or refute that, if they know for sure
[03:09] <DaSkreech> ibuffy: Define regular users
[03:10] <ibuffy> DaSkreech: parents who aren't very smart when it comes to using the internet
[03:10] <_2> ibuffy adm/admin   makes one "root jr."   so if they should not have full access to the superuser account, then you don't want them in those groups or you want to adjust /etc/sudoers accordingly
[03:11] <ibuffy> what is dip?
[03:11] <_2> the default sudoers of a ubuntu system is IMO a joke and very little better if any than just giving them the root password.  (and in some cases worse)
[03:12] <_2> ibuffy dip is probably need for dialout
[03:12] <DaSkreech> ibuffy: So... not regular users :)
[03:12] <ibuffy> there is a dialout group
[03:12] <ibuffy> i thought dialout would be somethign like ethernet
[03:13] <ibuffy> internet*
[03:13] <_2> less /etc/group
[03:13] <_2> full list of groups
[03:14] <DaSkreech> _2: They wouldn't be the first user on the system so they would have very limited sudo (none essentially)
[03:14] <_2> as to their use that's another matter.
[03:14] <bdizzle> so I am trying to figure out a new desktop style for the K-menu panel that isn't a perfect rectangle along the edge, but I'm not sure how it could be implemented
[03:14] <_2> DaSkreech the default ubuntu setup  you are either root jr.  or you have NO sudo access at all.
[03:14] <_2> and that's my point.
[03:15] <DaSkreech> _2: Right
[03:15] <_2> and if you are in the admin group you are root jr.
[03:15] <_2> reguardless of uid
[03:17] <_2> su and sudo do nothing on my system anyway, unless you are already superuser.    nosuid
[03:18] <_2> or in other words i have decending privaliges only
[03:19] <PSiL0> after battling with fedora 10 over the weekend, I'm back with kubuntu.  It just works with my laptop
[03:19] <_2> heh and obviously can't spell
[03:19] <PSiL0> fedora 10 is really pretty though
[03:19] <_2> PSiL0 use what works,  eye candy is over rated
[03:19] <cyberponix> what is the command line for formating a hdd?
[03:20] <_2> cyberponix depends on the format
[03:20] <cyberponix> to wipeclean
[03:21] <_2> mkfs.vfat /dev/hda1 # would format to fat#    just to blank a disk use cfdisk and delete the partitions.   to scrub a partition or the whole disk   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda?
[03:21] <mr---t-> ext2 ,ext3?
[03:22] <genii> xfs, jfs?
[03:22] <_2> mke2fs -c /dev/hda1 # add -j for ext3
[03:22] <cyberponix> thnx
[03:23] <genii> cyberponix: You can also use standard type way of: mkfs.<fstype-here> /dev/wherever
[03:23] <_2> plan9 abort; glenda has left the building
[03:24] <mr---t-> followed by elvis?
[03:24] <_2> genii s=standard type way=the scripts=
[03:25] <_2> mr---t- you have obviously never used "plan9"
[03:25] <genii> _2: Nope
[03:26] <bdizzle> so I was wondering if other than KDE, GNOME, and X, along with Aqua and Win32, are there any other desktop interfaces to play around with?
[03:26] <snarkster> has anyone made packages for the beta 4.2?
[03:26] <snarkster> yes
[03:26] <snarkster> windowmaker
[03:26] <snarkster> tem
[03:26] <snarkster> twm i mean
[03:26] <snarkster> fwmn
[03:26] <nogagplz> KDE 4.2 will be in backports for Hardy will it not
[03:28] <_2> genii does not mkfs.ext# call mke2fs ?
[03:28] <bdizzle> windowmaker?
[03:28] <genii> _2: Likely :)    I wonder about mkfs.ext3
[03:29] <snarkster> bdizzle: yup windowmaker
[03:29] <_2> genii i could be wrong but i think that both are just elf wrappers to mke2fs
[03:29] <XN1ghtX> Ok guys, I need some help, I can't launch the graphic interface after having done the Nvidia driver updates, I can still acess all terminals though, anyone could help me out ?
[03:30] <_2> genii dpkg -L e2fsprogs | grep /sbin/
[03:31] <bdizzle> oh, okay, I only wanted to change the shape of the K-menu panel, the rest looks alright in KDE4
[03:31]  * genii gets _2 a cookie
[03:32]  * mr---t- good idea
[03:33]  * _2 just found filefrag  and also found that his fs is highly fragmented  !
[03:34] <_2> example one; /.swap_file: 46 extents found, perfection would be 8 extents
[03:36] <_2> eeek  104 extents found, perfection would be 9 extents
[03:36] <bdizzle> how does .ext3 get fragmented? I thought it couldn't be
[03:38] <_2> bdizzle heh.  this is linux, nothing is impossable.
[03:38] <_2> and if it can be broken i can break it.
[03:38] <nogagplz> _2: except damned winmodems >>
[03:38] <bdizzle> lol
[03:38] <_2> nogagplz actually i even got that to work one time.
[03:39] <nogagplz> _2: same one itme in ages past, a lucent winmodem. but never again :/
[03:39] <_2> nogagplz indeed some are harder than others,
[03:41] <_2> seems the larger the file the more likely it is to be fragmented,     that sounds reasonable.
[03:43] <_2> oh and it might interest you to know that the fs i was looking at does not use a journal
[03:43] <_2> i.e. ext2
[03:51] <loganWHD> anyone using vmware workstation 6.5 in kubuntu?
[04:00] <kalorin_> logan, I use server at work
[04:00] <kalorin_> on kubuntu 7.10
[04:00] <kalorin_> run my XP instance so that I can run stupid outlook
[04:04] <zaldym> hello guys
[04:04] <zaldym> can i ask a question?
[04:06] <Guest4784> Hi, is there a simple way that I can install python 2.6 without breaking my computer?
[04:06] <Blinky_Bill> zaldym: You don
[04:07] <Blinky_Bill> 't have to ask to ask a question. Just ask and someone will answer it if they know the answer or can lead you in the right direction
[04:13] <DaSkreech> !helper | Hey genii
[04:14] <genii> DaSkreech: You called?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> bdizzle: More interfaces than you should have time to experience
[04:15] <DaSkreech> nogagplz: I don't know about hardy
[04:15] <bdizzle> yeah, I am looking into them now
[04:15] <bdizzle> I like KDE, I just need to customize it a bit to make it unique if possible
[04:16] <DaSkreech> XN1ghtX: Can you run startx from the terminal?
[04:17] <DaSkreech> genii: I was trying to give you a Kookie
[04:17] <DaSkreech> bdizzle: THat's not that hard
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Blinky_Bill: Why would it break?
[04:19] <Blinky_Bill> Well there doesn't seem to be a meta package that links to 2.6
[04:19]  * genii munches
[04:20] <DaSkreech> !info python2.6 jaunty
[04:20] <DaSkreech> !info python2.5 jaunty
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Blinky_Bill: That's cause there isn't one :)
[04:20]  * DaSkreech sneaks out the coffee while munching goes on
[04:26] <Blinky_Bill> so no python 2.6 ?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> nope
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Well not from packages
[04:26] <BluesKaj> strange kde4 update in adept wants to remove Kate , what kde4 text editor will replace it ?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> you can install yourself pretty simply
[04:27] <DaSkreech> karen
[04:32] <harolddong> what's the proper way to add an ssh connection to my laptop from my desktop with knetattach?  every time I try it defaults to the sftp protocol and tells me that the address is a folder but a file was expected
[04:32] <harolddong> it works fine if I just type it in the dolphin address bar with the fish:// protocol but knetattach doesnt seem to want to work
[04:46] <Blinky_Bill> DaSkreech: If I install python 2.6 will it overide the previous python(and break the world)?
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Blinky_Bill:
[04:46] <DaSkreech> No
[04:47] <DaSkreech> Python is a symlink to the system python. Your install would likely not be a systemic install
[04:49] <Blinky_Bill> DaSkreech: Thanks for your help : )
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Blinky_Bill: The Bill is in the e-mail (between <blink> tags of course)
[04:54] <Blinky_Bill> I'll pay in hugs
[04:54] <DaSkreech> >:D<
[05:09] <lovre> where do i find compiz settings in kubuntu 8.10
[05:09] <szrhawaii> need help my package manager doesnt work and it doesnt even work in terminal either
[05:09] <mr---t-> !compiz
[05:10] <lovre> mr---t-: how can i tell if compiz is installed? i dont remember if i installed it or not
[05:10] <szrhawaii> my package manager says check apt-get and my terminal says mailformed error
[05:11] <szrhawaii> any help here
[05:12] <lovre> how can i know if i have compiz installed
[05:14] <szrhawaii> package manager says the apt database could not be opened this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some similar problem. try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem then i did that and the terminal says mailformed line 48 in source list etc/apt/sources.list (dist) the source list of source could not be read
[05:15] <szrhawaii> lovre the compiz configure settings is usually in your menu under settings
[05:15] <mr---t-> KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects
[05:16] <lovre> its not there. So what do i install, compiz, compiz fuuion or ?
[05:16] <szrhawaii> you should have a thing in system settings named desktop effects
[05:17] <szrhawaii> you have to turn that on to get the basic if not you have to downloa the package
[05:17] <szrhawaii> i prefer fusion cause it has everything
[05:18] <szrhawaii> but you have to turn that desktop effect on first
[05:18] <szrhawaii> mr-t can you help on the package manager thing
[05:18] <lovre> szrhawaii: ok, i turned it on, and now i have some effects.
[05:19] <szrhawaii> yeah thats only the basic ones
[05:19] <lovre> what next
[05:19] <szrhawaii> you have to get fusion in order to get the good ones
[05:19] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: What are you trying to do ?
[05:19] <szrhawaii> i cant get into my adept manager
[05:19] <szrhawaii> not even through terminal
[05:19] <lovre> :o
[05:20] <lovre> maybe something is using apt?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Right but what are you trying to do?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Oh ok I see it now. Can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:20] <Blinky_Bill> An alternative through terminal is a program called 'aptitude'. It's always been great for me
[05:20] <szrhawaii> oh and lovre when you turn that you can configure the settings under kmenu>settings>simple compizconfig settings
[05:21] <lovre> szrhawaii: thank you
[05:21] <szrhawaii> let me try again then ill let you know
[05:21] <szrhawaii> your welcome lovre
[05:22] <szrhawaii> it says mailformed line 48 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)  the list sources could not be read
[05:22] <Blinky_Bill> szrhawaii:  Give aptitude a try if adept isn
[05:22] <Blinky_Bill> 't working
[05:22] <szrhawaii> how do i get that
[05:23] <Blinky_Bill> In konsole type aptitude
[05:24] <szrhawaii> it still says mailformed 48 in sources list etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <szrhawaii> cannot read
[05:25] <szrhawaii> so how do i fix that problem
[05:25] <szrhawaii> do i need to start all over again
[05:25] <Blinky_Bill> type cat etc/apt/sources.list and copy all of that, then paste it into a paste bin and post the url here
[05:26] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Oh ok I see it now. Can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> ^^^
[05:26] <pjg864> :)
[05:26] <szrhawaii> hold on let me try
[05:26] <pjg864> This is my first time to come here.
[05:26] <Blinky_Bill> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <DaSkreech> pjg864: Welcome!!
[05:27] <Blinky_Bill> Welcome pjg864 : ) . How can we help you ?
[05:28] <Blinky_Bill> Or if you're not looking for help you can join #kubuntu-offtopic for just general chatting
[05:29] <pjg864> I already have four primary partition, how can I change one of them to logic one?( don't format it.)
[05:29] <szrhawaii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/79664/
[05:29] <szrhawaii> there it is
[05:31] <szrhawaii> all i know is it keeps saying restricted on that file
[05:33] <Blinky_Bill> could you post the error you get when you enter 'sudo aptitude'
[05:34] <szrhawaii> blinky bill this is what it said t says mailformed line 48 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)  the list sources could not be read
[05:35] <szrhawaii> i did the pastebin if you know how to help me that way http://paste.ubuntu.com/79664/
[05:36] <szrhawaii> is there a way to remove a ppa that i added that started all this problem
[05:36] <Blinky_Bill> pjg864: this might help you out somewhat http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
[05:36] <pjg864> Thank you!
[05:37] <Blinky_Bill> pjg864: You're most welcome : ) I hope that helps
[05:38] <szrhawaii> tell me i can save it
[05:39] <szrhawaii> from re partitioning
[05:39] <szrhawaii> again
[05:39] <Blinky_Bill> pjg864: You're most welcome : ) I hope that helps/
[05:39] <Blinky_Bill> Woops. Still ggettingg used to typing on the eee's keyboard
[05:40] <Blinky_Bill> szrhawaii: this shouldn't be to hard to fix
[05:40] <szrhawaii> ok well need some clues
[05:41] <szrhawaii> i would delete it thats what i get for running kde 3.5 and kde 4.1 on two different sessions
[05:41] <Blinky_Bill> szrhawaii: Try adding a '#' to the beginning of the last line in your sources.list file
[05:42] <szrhawaii> huh
[05:42] <szrhawaii> that simple huh lets see
[05:43] <szrhawaii> to which one the last ppa
[05:43] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Take out that last line
[05:43] <lovre> i installed compiz, and now in firefox there is no window decoration. everything else has, but firefox not.
[05:43] <DaSkreech>  it has no qualifer for a release
[05:43] <szrhawaii> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu that one
[05:44] <Blinky_Bill> lovre: Have you restarted your computer after installing the desktop effects ?
[05:45] <szrhawaii> so i should delete this file right daskreech deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu
[05:45] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: or put a qualifer or put # in front of it
[05:45] <DaSkreech> either works
[05:45] <DaSkreech>  save the file and you can try again
[05:45] <szrhawaii> k im just gonna erase it
[05:46] <lovre> Blinky_Bill: no i didnt :o
[05:46] <lovre> Blinky_Bill: i will, thank you
[05:46] <szrhawaii> should i restart before trying too
[05:46] <Blinky_Bill> lovre: You
[05:46] <Blinky_Bill> 're welcome
[05:46] <szrhawaii> it works thanks skreech
[05:46] <szrhawaii> daskreech thanks
[05:47] <szrhawaii> is 4.1 done with all the bugs
[05:47] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: It's software it's never done with bugs
[05:47] <szrhawaii> i bet
[05:48] <szrhawaii> i like how it looks though
[05:48] <szrhawaii> with all the widgets but then im not sure if im ready to jump ship from 3.5
[05:51] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Don't then
[05:51] <DaSkreech> hi oggb4mp3
[05:51] <szrhawaii> is it worth it
[05:53] <oggb4mp3> is it just me or does amarok not work on the 8.10 livecd
[05:53] <oggb4mp3> ?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: If it is to you
[05:53] <lovre> my firefox still has no decoration :(
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Amarok 1.4 ?
[05:53] <szrhawaii> what do you mean decoration
[05:53] <oggb4mp3> DaSkreech: I guess
[05:53] <szrhawaii> like the window decoration
[05:54] <oggb4mp3> I run amarok and get "bash: /usr/bin/amarok: Input/output error"
[06:51] <trevor> Just a quick question:  What was the name of that alternative to kMenu?  I think it might have been something similar to Camelot, but I'm not finding anything for that name, and I can't figure out what it is...
[06:52] <trevor> I don't know if anyone would know what I'm talking about...  But, I thought it would be worth a shot...
[07:04] <jussi01> !info lancelot | trevor
[07:04] <jussi01> meh
[07:05] <jussi01> plasmoid-lancelot
[07:05] <jussi01> !info plasmoid-lancelot | trevor
[07:05] <jussi01> there we are :D
[07:05] <trevor> lancelot!  I knew it was something mideval!
[07:05] <trevor> Thank you!
[07:05] <jussi01> no probs - it rocks :D
[07:05] <trevor> Thank you so much!
[07:06] <jussi01> trevor: you know you can make the icon the same as the standard kde one also?
[07:06] <jussi01> (I hated the grail)
[07:07] <trevor> Yes, I believe that the last time that I was running KDE, I figured that out...
[07:07] <jussi01> :)
[07:07] <trevor> The grail is just not...  Full...
[07:07] <trevor> It seems like it's waisting space, ya know?
[07:07] <jussi01> yep.
[07:07] <trevor> Very skinny, and takes up the space of a regular icon...
[07:07] <trevor> Bleh...
[07:08] <jussi01> anything else bothering you?
[07:10] <CCMonster> hey there folks, anyone able to help me with installing the new beta of ktorrent
[07:12] <trevor> Nope, I'm good.  Thanks jussi01 ! :D
[07:12] <CCMonster> there is not ./configure in the download
[07:12] <CCMonster> so I don't really know what to do
[07:12] <CCMonster> kind of annoying
[07:12] <jussi01> CCMonster: is there a readme?
[07:12] <trevor> ./configure is a file, not a directory...
[07:13] <trevor> the . means to look in the current directory, then the /configure means to look for a file named configure.
[07:13] <trevor> If there is no configure, then just skip it, and move on to make.
[07:14] <trevor> BRB.  Switching Desktop Environments...
[07:14] <CCMonster> jussi01, no there is not
[07:14] <CCMonster> not in the tar
[07:14] <CCMonster> there was nothing like a readme or a ./configure
[07:14] <jussi01> CCMonster: can you send me a link to the tar=?
[07:14] <jussi01> i. where you got it from?
[07:15] <CCMonster> yea one sec
[07:15] <CCMonster> http://ktorrent.org/?q=node/26
[07:15] <jussi01> ok, Ill take a look
[07:15] <CCMonster> tar.bz2
[07:16] <lovre> how can i exclude a certain program (in my case a game) from any compiz/emerald or any other decorations?
[07:17] <jussi01> lovre: you cant. use the plasmoid swither to turn the desktop effects off and on when you use it.
[07:17] <CCMonster> you check it out Jussi?
[07:18] <jussi01> CCMonster: I have slow net, waiting for the download
[07:18] <CCMonster> k
[07:18] <jussi01> ok, looking now
[07:20] <alienjon> hi all
[07:20] <alienjon> anyone around?
[07:20] <CCMonster> you see what I mean jussi01 ?
[07:20] <jussi01> yeah
[07:20] <lovre> jussi01: here is no such plasmoid...
[07:20] <jussi01> Im playing around with it
[07:21] <lovre> jussi01: how do i install it
[07:21] <lovre> toggle-compoziting?
[07:22] <lovre> jussi01: this is doing nothing :o
[07:23] <ott0> when you install wine, how does the system know that wine should handle windows executables when you execute them?
[07:23] <CCMonster> so what od you think jussi01_
[07:24] <jussi01> ott0: the command goes: wine executable.exe
[07:24] <jussi01> CCMonster: Ive almost got it, hang on
[07:24] <nogagplz> ott0: run winecfg to configure your audio driver and drive paths also?
[07:26] <ott0> ah
[07:27] <CCMonster> anything jussi01_
[07:27] <jussi01> CCMonster: yeah, Im compiling it, but its asking for alsorts of libs
[07:28] <jussi01> CCMonster: you need to have compiled kdepimlibs also
[07:28] <CCMonster> kdepimlibs?
[07:28] <CCMonster> hmm
[07:28] <jussi01> CCMonster: anyway, how you do the compiling so you know is this:
[07:28] <jussi01> mkdir build
[07:28] <jussi01> cd build
[07:28] <jussi01> cmake ../
[07:29] <jussi01> make
[07:29] <jussi01> simple once you know
[07:29] <CCMonster> so what do i need to get first?
[07:30] <CCMonster> so go to the directory then do the mkdir build and all that?
[07:30] <jussi01> CCMonster: I got torun, but youll need at least: libqca2-dev and libgmp3-dev
[07:30] <jussi01> yeah
[07:31] <CCMonster> do i need to apt-get those
[07:31] <CCMonster> or do something else?
[08:03] <faileas> hmm
[08:04] <faileas> which version of unrar do i need to open cbr files with comix or ocular?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[08:54] <lokai> gah I have a directory with a '&' in it. How do I scp from it?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> lokai: i think you put escapes round it
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> like dumb \people \put \&\s \in \filenames
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> lokai: or you could use "s
[09:03] <lokai> ActionParsnip: It requires both, heh.
[09:04] <lokai> and you're right, its quite annoying.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> i dont thik it needs both, have a play
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> its something along those lines
[09:04] <lokai> it does in my case
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> oh, i didnt know. cool. glad its working :D
[09:22] <g33k_gir1> kde 4 sucks.how do I switch back to kde 3?
[09:24] <Blinky_Bill> You could always try out gnome, or xfce
[09:25] <g33k_gir1> Blinky_Bill: I like KDE, just not the new version :)
[09:26] <Blinky_Bill> Oh oki ^^ http://forum.kde.org/how-get-kde-kubuntu-10-t-11996.html#pid16155
[09:31] <Blinky_Bill> I wish I could get the taskbar to autohide like in KDE 3.x. At the moment I just have a pile of taskbar widgets on my desktop and then an extra desktop which I keep blank to replicate the function of it
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> do you mean plasma?
[09:36] <Blinky_Bill> Umm.... Yep
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> its currently not implemented
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> afaics
[09:55] <Machtin> hi guys, where are the aliases saved?
[09:57] <Machtin> ah, already got it.. thanks
[10:06] <bobthemil> can someone help me install kubuntu without a cd-rom? I got the intrepid alternate i386 iso, pulled out the vmlinuz and initrd.gz files to /boot/kubuntu/, as well as put the .iso there. I've modified GRUB to properly boot off this initrd and kernel, but the installer fails to locate the ISO. I've tried many tricks, but none of them work.
[10:07] <bobthemil> This website: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html has a very good (i guess not so good?) guide for it that I used to install ubuntu via netboot on a different computer today, but it's not working with this ISO thing
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/925285.html
[10:08] <bobthemil> The step: "ln /dev/loop0 /dev/loop/0" is giving me errors
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: what do you have in /dev/loop ?
[10:11] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: The OP in that thread has the same issue that I do, but he does not find a solution.
[10:11] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: nothing, as far as I know. I don't quite understand what /dev/loop does
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: if you have a usb stick / sd card you can put the installer on there and install from usb
[10:12] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: laptop's CD-ROM is broken, won't boot off USB
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: its so you can mount iso files basically
[10:12] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: I figured it had something to do with that, since that's what the guide I linked above tells me to do
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: are you dual booting?
[10:13] <bobthemil> Technically, yes
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[10:13] <bobthemil> I'm in the process of converting the laptop from Ubuntu to Kubuntu (long story, don't ask)
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: if you have unallocated space you do not have to resize partitions
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> ahh, no windows then?
[10:14] <bobthemil> no
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> ok lemme search again
[10:14] <bobthemil> It has a working version if ubuntu intrepid, but no xwindow
[10:15] <faileas> bobthemil: do you have a network connection and another OS on it?
[10:16] <faileas> (linux or windows)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/install-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-without.html
[10:16] <bobthemil> faileas: It has a working copy of ubuntu on it (no GUI, but ubuntu does work on it)
[10:16] <faileas> bobthemil: and network?
[10:16] <faileas> and do you want to add gui to the one you have, or do a fresh install?
[10:17]  * faileas was thinking unetbootin but that needs gtk i think
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> ^ that guide is much simpler
[10:17] <bobthemil> faileas: es. it has a working network
[10:17] <bobthemil> faileas: Going with a fresh install of kubuntu
[10:19] <bobthemil> Okay. I'm in the shell of the installer, and "ls -l /dev | grep loop" returns nothing
[10:19] <bobthemil> wait
[10:19] <bobthemil> that guide you just linked uses the kernel and initrd from the hd-media version of the install
[10:20] <bobthemil> lemme see what I can do real fast...
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: all you need are those 2 files and the system will come up (albeit in a very limited fashion)
[10:21] <bobthemil> Right. Like I said before, GRUB is properly loading the initrd and kernel, and it's booting up into the install program
[10:21] <bobthemil> also, I'm noticing that the guide you just linked is for ubuntu
[10:21] <bobthemil> is there any significant difference between ubuntu and kubuntu aside from KDE/gnome?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: then modify the grub conf like the guide
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: you get kwin instead of metacity
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: then all kde apps instead of gnome ones
[10:22] <bobthemil> Right
[10:22] <bobthemil> Okay, so here's my current plan of action
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: if you have ubuntu, you can run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and get the same thing
[10:23] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: yeah, I tried that and now X doesn't work
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: oic
[10:23] <tkstka> My video player is not working...
[10:23] <tkstka> it fraps
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you running compiz?
[10:23] <tkstka> compiz?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: cube desktop and all that jazz
[10:24] <tkstka> ya I have some
[10:24] <tkstka> not taht cube
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: does it run ok if you turn off all the desktop effects?
[10:24] <tkstka> how would I do that?
[10:24] <tkstka> what do I type?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: its in the menu under system or maybe settings
[10:25] <bobthemil> so my current plan of action is to grab the kernel and initrd from archives.ubuntu.com/.../intrepid/.../HD-MEDIA/, put them in /boot/, then boot off of that kernel and initrd, and then pray that the installer will find the iso
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you can turn the desktop effects off there
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: sounds like you got some fun ahead of you
[10:25] <bobthemil> However, I'm slightly worried about using kubuntu-8.10-alternate.iso with a mismatched kernel and initrd
[10:25] <bobthemil> Do you think that will present a major problem?
[10:25] <tkstka> well it says no effects
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: ok cool so theres no gloss getting in the way
[10:26] <tkstka> :C but I see video running in youtube when I put my mouse over the icon at my panel
[10:26] <tkstka> so I think they are on
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: have you got decent codecs?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | tkstka
[10:27] <tkstka> just what I got from the install
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: thats why then
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: your codecs are pretty poor
[10:28] <tkstka> i'm now installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:28] <tkstka> is that right?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: sounds good
[10:28] <tkstka> from one of those links
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you may wanna also: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !info w32codecs
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !infor w32codec
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !info w32codec
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !w32codec
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> !w32codecs
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> thats the one
[10:31] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: would there be any end difference between installing from the Kubuntu CD-ROM from installing from the Ubuntu netboot and then downloading kubuntu-desktop and not installing ubuntu-desktop?
[10:31] <tkstka> hmm I have the licence agreement
[10:32] <tkstka> there reads <OK>
[10:32] <tkstka> but I cant press it
[10:32] <tkstka> or press enter
[10:32] <tkstka> so I cant continue
[10:32] <tkstka> :C
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: not massively
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: did you click that you agreed to the license?
[10:33] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: What would the difference be? I'm really a much bigger fan of KDE than gnome
[10:34] <tkstka> hmm so how do I get back
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: time mainly. otherwise the installed app will be the newest after first install, the cd will have to install, then update some apps
[10:35] <bobthemil> So really, it would be in my best interests to do it the netboot way, and not the cd-rom emulation way, yeah?
[10:35] <bobthemil> (assuming I like current versions of apps)
[10:35] <tkstka> lol
[10:35] <tkstka> I had to use tab
[10:35] <tkstka> to select
[10:35] <tkstka> :C
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: then your mouse may need config when you get installed
[10:37] <tkstka> lol
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: as you are downloading from repos, the install will be the latest off the first boot, the cd will have older versions but can then be updated once installed
[10:38] <tkstka> "lets try linux it's easy"
[10:38] <tkstka> ;D
[10:39] <tkstka> anyway now the install got stucked
[10:39] <tkstka> http request sent awaiting ressponce
[10:39] <bobthemil> Okay
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: did you md5 test your iso you downloaded AND test the install cd for defects?
[10:40] <tkstka> no?
[10:40] <tkstka> should I have
[10:40] <bobthemil> there was this one program called..... I don't remember, "ubuntu" something something, that said that it was mandatory for the install
[10:40] <tkstka> my first real linux usage
[10:40] <bobthemil> (this is when i did the net install earlier)
[10:40] <tkstka> I dont know jack sh**
[10:40] <bobthemil> anyway, when i enabled it, it didn't work, but when i disabled it, it did install
[10:40] <tin> anyone having problem with flash plugin in firefox in 8.10?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: YES!
[10:40] <tkstka> :o
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | tkstka
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you may have a bad image which can cause issues. this is CRITICAL. especially with an operating system
[10:41] <tin> or connections in general, it's affecting more apps now that i look
[10:41] <tin> something's doing a lot of uploading
[10:41] <tkstka> hmm I used kubuntu cd
[10:41] <tkstka> 7.1
[10:41] <tkstka> or something
[10:41] <tkstka> then I upgraded
[10:41] <tkstka> it
[10:42] <tkstka> to 7.10 or something
[10:42] <tkstka> and then 8.4
[10:42] <tkstka> or something
[10:42] <tkstka> and now I'm 8.10
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> tin: run ps -ef to see your apps, you can then see whats running
[10:43] <tkstka> hmm I got a huge list
[10:43] <tkstka> of programs
[10:43] <tkstka> how do I know which programs do what
[10:43] <tkstka> ?
[10:44] <tin> whoa, hmm, weird
[10:44] <tkstka> this is like lapdancer learning how to play chess
[10:44] <tin> i had pulseaudio set to be a network sound server
[10:44] <tkstka> hopeless
[10:45] <tin> and that seemed to be eating my upload, and making incoming connections get crazy high latency
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: websearch and research
[10:46] <tkstka> what?
[10:46] <tkstka> :o
[10:46] <tkstka> what do I need to researh?
[10:46] <tkstka> :o
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: if you look, the ps -ef was for tin, not you
[10:47] <tkstka> so I should shut down some of those porgrams
[10:47] <tkstka> ?
[10:49]  * tin likes htop for proccess info
[10:49] <tkstka> sudo apt-get install w32codecs doesnt work
[10:49] <tin> and the viewer in SysGuard was nice
[10:49] <tkstka> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[10:49] <tkstka> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you need to add the medibuntu repos
[10:50] <tkstka> and those are?
[10:50] <user6> hi Action...
[10:50] <user6> hi at all
[10:50] <tkstka> hi
[10:50] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: You might not know the answer to this question, but I figure I'll go for it.
[10:51] <user6> Where's the right chat to have discussion about Kubuntu for Laptop
[10:51] <bobthemil> Georgia Tech (my network) hosts a mirror of the Ubuntu install CD, but I can't seem to find if it hosts a mirror of archive.ubuntu.com as well or not
[10:51] <user6> There's a place like this?
[10:51] <tkstka> ActionParsnip: I tried to sudo apt-get install medibuntu it didnt work
[10:51] <tkstka> :C
[10:52] <tkstka> all I want to do is watch dr house :C
[10:52] <bobthemil> A, found it! http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu/
[10:52] <bobthemil> That should make my download go a good bit faster :)
[10:52] <tkstka> and I cant because the damn thing fraps
[10:52] <user6> ! laptop
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: no, you need to edit your sources and add medibuntu ones, then installing w32codecs will succeed
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | tkstka
[10:54] <tkstka> w00t
[10:54] <user6> I'd like to know if an installation of kubuntu hardy 8.04 on a ASUS notebook like X53SR has knowed trouble... or if it's raccomended
[10:55] <tkstka> so I need to install medibuntu then add codecs?
[10:55] <tkstka> to the medibuntu
[10:55] <tkstka> ?
[10:55] <tkstka> I tried to apt-get install
[10:55] <tkstka> it didnt work
[10:56] <tkstka> sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring?
[10:56] <tkstka> is that right
[10:56] <tkstka> it didnt work
[10:57] <bobthemil> user6: it's probably a safe guess that it will work fine
[10:58] <bobthemil> You might run into some issues with video card drivers, but you'll do that with just about any O/S on just about any video card :S
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: no. you need to add medibuntu repositorys to your package manager so you can use it as a repo, you can then install packages stored there
[10:59] <user6> bobthemil: have you any documentation about?
[11:00] <tkstka> ok I did it
[11:00] <bobthemil> user6: documentation of people succesfully installing kubuntu on an ASUS X53SR?
[11:00] <user6> bobthemil: i can't find features about this laptop, and no scanning program give me information about hardware (it have Vista)
[11:01] <bobthemil> My vista is a bit rusty, but try start menu > right click on my computer > hardware > device manager
[11:01] <bobthemil> that should give you the name of just about every piece of hardware on the system
[11:02] <tkstka> ActionParsnip: I pasted this.. sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[11:02] <user6> bobthemil: no the problem it's more hard
[11:02] <bobthemil> user6: Do you have a problem with installing kubuntu on that laptop?
[11:02] <user6> but in this moment i have no specification about this Notebook
[11:02] <tkstka> but I still have problems
[11:02] <tkstka> :C
[11:03]  * ActionParsnip takes out spoon
[11:03] <user6> bobthemil: no in this moment the owner of this notebook have tried to install Xp PRO to make a downgrading of the Vist
[11:03] <user6> a
[11:03] <user6> but Downgrade of this sistem was not allowed
[11:04] <user6> so i have no information from XP
[11:04] <bobthemil> Oh? I'm sure you can downgrade it from Vista to XP
[11:04] <user6> about that piece
[11:04] <user6> no HE can't
[11:04] <bobthemil> What probably happened was that he attempted to install XP prior to fully removing Vista
[11:04] <bobthemil> XP will absolutely not install on the machine?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <bobthemil> Even if you reformat the harddrive?
[11:04] <user6> Home Premium Can't do this
[11:04] <user6> Or better
[11:04] <user6> Process go fine
[11:05] <user6> but Activation is not allowed
[11:05] <bobthemil> Is it a valid activation key?
[11:06] <user6> I had phone to Microsoft to have a new changing code
[11:06] <bobthemil> What did they say to you about it?
[11:06] <user6> it say to me that this varsion can't have a downgrade
[11:06] <user6> licence is original
[11:06] <bobthemil> Did you fully remove vista prior to installing XP? (i.e. reformatting the harddrive)
[11:06] <user6> but downgrade is not allowed
[11:07] <user6> Not fully...
[11:07] <bobthemil> Do it fully
[11:07] <bobthemil> Otherwise WinXP will tell you that it can't install over a newer version of Windows
[11:07] <user6> but i don't know what he did before he gives me this
[11:07] <bobthemil> well
[11:07] <user6> process is now complete
[11:08] <user6> xp is installed
[11:08] <bobthemil> you could also get some tool such as PartitionMagic (there's free alternatives), and then shrink the current Vista Partition down to a smaller size, create a new partition, and then install Windows XP on that partition
[11:08] <bobthemil> Installing any O/S on a partition that another O/S exists on (or has existed on without being fully removed) will cause issues
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> gparted can shrink partitions
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> its on the install cd
[11:09] <bobthemil> gparted: on the winxp install cd?
[11:09] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: on the winxp install CD?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> this is kubuntu chat
[11:10] <user6> yes it is probably how you say but information about older installation will be lost... and i think that in this way i'll lost any right on this installation
[11:10] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: the question relates to removing windows vista and then possibly installing kubuntu
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: then the kubuntu installer can remove windows nicely :)
[11:12] <user6> yes I have losed my aim
[11:12] <user6> o
[11:12] <user6> uff
[11:13] <user6> i'll be back in few minutesss
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> user6: yes it will wipe the vista partition completely from existence
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> user6: you can use gparted to srink the vista install (backup data first just in case)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> then that will make space for linux
[11:15]  * cuznt applauds the loss of a window vista...
[11:15] <cuznt> stab bill gates right in the old o/s
[11:15] <user6> ActionParsnip: yes but I'd like to know if an installation of kubuntu hardy 8.04 on a ASUS notebook like X53SR has knowed trouble... or if it's raccomended
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: remember when xp came out and everyone shunned it as much as vista ?
[11:15] <faileas> ActionParsnip: actually no
[11:15] <bobthemil> user6: Any O/S should work fine as long as you remove vista first
[11:16] <bobthemil> or at least reduce its partition size and create a new partition(s) for the new O/S
[11:16] <faileas> XP was quite a improvement over 98 (and certainly ME) ;p
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> faileas: what i read, when xp arrived, it was flamed LOADS
[11:16] <faileas> ActionParsnip: sp2 was
[11:16] <cuznt> i hated xp also
[11:16] <cuznt> it is what started me on kde
[11:16] <cuznt> :0
[11:16]  * faileas still runs it on a few boxen
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> user6: run the system on a live cd and see what lspci says is in the lappy, you can then check how to set it up
[11:17] <faileas> then again, i have a wierdly diverse home lan
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> faileas: sp2 was sweeet, just gotta kill the firewall and redisable all the stuff you previously disabled
[11:17] <user6> ActionParsnip: Clear, Thank you Action
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> faileas: not wildly diverse here but fun all the same. what you got?
[11:18] <bobthemil> ActionParsnip: okay, now my netinstaller is erroring again
[11:18] <bobthemil> "An installstop step failed..... Failing step is: Select and install software"
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> bobthemil: ive never used net install, id websearch and/or wait if anyone has input
[11:19] <bobthemil> the software I have selected to install is "kubuntu desktop" and "Ubuntu Studio desktop (must install)"
[11:19] <faileas> ActionParsnip: one SGI box (well eventually) windows xp, windows 2k, win 98. i'm planning for a windows server box eventually, debian, kubuntu, and probably a solaris VM
[11:19] <bobthemil> Do you know what Ubuntu Studio desktop is? and why it's labelled as "(must install)"?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> faileas: nice, i have xp pro, xp tablet, kubuntu and gentoo
[11:20] <faileas> ActionParsnip: its cause of neccessity ;p
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> faileas: yeah my xp pro is a work lappy
[11:20] <tkstka> so I now installed w32codecs
[11:21] <tkstka> but the problem still is there
[11:21] <tkstka> is I change player
[11:21] <tkstka> is there vlc
[11:21] <tkstka> for ubuntu
[11:21] <tkstka> ?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:21] <faileas> i got one box that won't run anything but debian or 2k well (and it runs 2k better, wierdly). I actually like XP a fair bit so most of my personal use boxen are dualboot
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i use kubuntu most, off my work lappy. gentoo was a bit of fun and runs torrents and fileserves. tablet xp is my girlfriends lappy
[11:23] <faileas> ActionParsnip: my debian box was supposed to be a torrent slower- the client dosen't seem to have protocol encryption so it works as a fileserver for now
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> makes backups easier too ;)
[11:24] <faileas> lol
[11:24] <faileas> i need to get a backup system in place
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> backup is the first thing i get in place
[11:24] <faileas> ya, but i haven't found a cross platform bare metal backup and restore system that i like yet ;p
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> faileas: ive a cron'd cp job
[11:25] <faileas> ActionParsnip: I need it to work on windows too ;p
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> cp /mnt/files /mnt/usb
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> faileas: have the windows machines accessing the fileserver via samba
[11:26] <faileas> ActionParsnip: done ;p
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> then backups are for all your systems
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> and windows never needs to know of it
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> or create an iso over lan
[11:26] <faileas> ideally i also want something that could let me backup and bare-metal restore a system from DVDs
[11:27] <tkstka> Doesnt work
[11:27] <tkstka> it fraps every 2 seconds
[11:27] <tkstka> it's like dia show
[11:27] <tkstka> :C
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: have you installed video drivers?
[11:29] <tkstka> no?
[11:29] <tkstka> I have ATI radeon x1950
[11:29] <tkstka> what do I do
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !ati | tkstka
[11:34] <Apple_cat> What is a good way to mount samba shares, but so that if I'm on a different network it won't raise an error
[11:38] <francisc1701> hi, what's the command to lock the screen in kde3?
[11:40] <eagles0513875> !debfoster
[11:43] <francisc1701> never mind, I remembered I could just google it
[11:43] <tkstka> hmm I have the latest drivers downloaded from the ati's page so how do I install ;;)
[11:45] <ScorpKing> is there a way to set a monitor model and resolution in kde4 like kde3 had in kcontrol?
[11:47] <eagles0513875> Pici can i ask you a question
[11:48] <ScorpKing> also - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg gives me no options on 8.10. any idea why?
[11:48] <eagles0513875> what would i need to remove to remove kde entierly from kubuntu
[11:48] <eagles0513875> !kde
[11:49] <eagles0513875> !kde4
[11:53] <bazhang> !puregnome
[12:14] <ulisse_> slave
[12:14] <ulisse_> salve
[12:16] <uliss3> come trovo altri server?
[12:16] <uliss3> o altre chat room?
[12:17] <eagles0513875> !it | uliss3
[12:17] <uliss3> tnx
[12:17] <hw_> When I open a pgp encrypted attachment within kmail and click on decrypt. Where does kgpg store the decrypted file/attchemnt?
[12:22] <Illusioneer> i installed 8.10 and I am getting the following problem with konqueror's settings panel:
[12:23] <Illusioneer>  you can't change almost any settings because it says "kcm_konqhtml" not found
[12:28] <bobthemil> Can someone help me find the "restricted drivers manager" in intrepid? my video resolution is all out of whack and the GUI is difficult (albeit not impossible) to use
[12:35] <Othbarty> How can i add a action to the dolphin context menu? (I want to be able to mark a number of files, right-click -> create archive) If i'm not mistaken, this worked in 8.04, but not in 8.10?
[12:37] <ku4ve> is it possilbe to open a .zip file with linux ?
[12:39] <Othbarty> ku4ve, yes it is, "sudo apt-get install unzip ark" should give you the necessary libraries methinks
[12:39] <Othbarty> ku4ve, or you could try to open the file with ark directly, it SHOULD work :P
[12:39] <ku4ve> Othbarty, ok, thanks, I'll try that
[12:42] <ku4ve> Othbarty, apt-get says ark installed, but I can't find it to open this file
[12:42] <dr_willis> try 'which ark' in the command line?
[12:43] <ku4ve> cli says "/usr/bin/ark"
[12:46] <ku4ve> ok, thanks guys..got it
[12:53] <fransw> Greetings everyone, I've got a bit of a problem with my wireless card on my laptop. Short 'n sweet, it's broken. Longer version: It's broken and it's intel, which means I could not find any working driver in the first place.
[12:54] <Othbarty> fransw, which card do you have ;)
[12:54] <fransw> Conclusion: I wish to purchase an external USB-wireless device. What type/model of device should I choose that has good support for Kubuntu 8.04
[12:54] <fransw> Othbarty: Used an Intel Wireless 3945 card
[12:55] <Othbarty> fransw, OK, i assume from your seccond string there, that the card is broken. Why not buy a new one to plug into your laptop?
[12:56] <fransw> Othbarty: Cause history told me that me + mechanical laptop repair = trouble. And I haven't got that much money to spend on it.
[12:56] <fransw> So I would prefer a simple USB-wireless device, with good kubuntu-support
[12:57] <dr_willis> Heh... putting in a new mini-pci card should be about as simple. :)
[12:57] <faileas> fransw: well, i used an edimax one for a bit. ralink chipset
[12:57] <dr_willis> Of course finding a 'good' wireless  device - can be the big task
[12:57] <fransw> dr_willis: That's why I come here for advice =)
[12:58] <dr_willis> !hardware
[12:58] <dr_willis> That would be a place to start also. :P
[12:58] <fransw> My level of linux-knowledge is somewhere between noob and uber-noob to be honest
[12:58] <dr_willis> I dont do much wireless.. and enver had a usb wireless gizmo
[13:11] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[13:11] <SkittleLinux18_> hey, how do I reinstall the bootloader in kubuntu 8.04
[13:12] <knusperfrosch> moved to kde4 quite a while ago but for someapps the icons are broken.
[13:12] <knusperfrosch> any way to fix it?
[13:13] <knusperfrosch> SkittleLinux18_: erm can you boot kubuntu?
[13:15] <SkittleLinux18_> with the supergrub disk.... which that alone will get me grub back. but, i'm in Kubuntu now, so i was hoping to just reinstall it while i was in here and save myself a second trip through supergrub. but it's ok, i don't have to be lazy all the time. =D
[13:15] <Othbarty> !grub
[13:16] <SkittleLinux18_> P.S. I keep my SuperGrub disk handy... I never know when I am going to need it. ;)
[13:16] <SkittleLinux18_> in fact, that is a disk ALL Linux users should have handy at all times
[13:16] <fyl0n> how do I remove widgets?
[13:16] <fyl0n> every time I start KDE it starts a widget that I do not want to have
[13:18] <JontheEchidna> fyl0n: you can either right click and remove or hover over it and press the x button on the handles
[13:20] <fyl0n> both won;t work for me but I have found the solution :)
[13:20] <fyl0n> Thanx anyway :)
[13:22] <eagles0513875> JontheEchidna can i ask you a question
[13:22] <JontheEchidna> sure
[13:23] <eagles0513875> JontheEchidna you know how in adept you can edit sources
[13:23] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[13:23] <eagles0513875> i just have a stripped down core version of kde and just installed adept but im missing the pkg to edit the sources from adept
[13:24] <JontheEchidna> Install software-properties-kde
[13:24] <JontheEchidna> Adept basically just launches that if it's installed
[13:24] <eagles0513875> !info software-properties-kde
[13:24] <eagles0513875> JontheEchidna thanks
[13:24] <JontheEchidna> yw
[13:26] <eagles0513875> :)
[13:26] <eagles0513875> lunch time for me
[13:29] <spidla> Hi there I have got a problem .. In GNOME I have used NetworkManager without any problems .. but networkmanager frontend in KDE is horrible.. It doesnt save properly my passwords.. certificate path for WPA is not saved as well... when I click to start the VPN connection.. nothing happens
[13:29] <spidla> is there any alternative ??
[13:30] <spidla> I tried WICD but it doesnt have VPN a connection with wpa-suplicant doesnt work always
[13:36] <vbgunz> how do I get my Gnome themed Gnome apps to to at least take on the same color of my KDE desktop?
[13:38] <sigma_> vbgunz: which kde version?
[13:39] <vbgunz> sigma_: 4
[13:39] <vbgunz> 4.1
[13:40] <vbgunz> Firefox and Komodo look really broken so I am willing to settle on the Ubuntu Human theme... just the color of it is strikingly different than the rest of the desktop :(
[13:41] <sigma_> vbgunz: in systemsettings the appearance tab in gtk styles and fonts you can make gtk apps take on a kde4 style
[13:42] <vbgunz> sigma_: yes I've done that but for the Human theme (Gnome theme)... just the Gnome apps are taking on the colors of that theme...
[13:48] <vbgunz> brb
[13:55] <eagles0513875> hi hannascott
[13:55] <eagles0513875> hi guys how is everyone
[13:56] <hannascott> eagles0513875: hello...
[14:00] <hannascott> eagles0513875: hmm.... who are you (?)
[14:02] <eagles0513875> just a guy who likes to help people out wiht issues
[14:02] <eagles0513875> just saying hi
[14:02] <eagles0513875> makes me happy seeing more women getting into linux :)
[14:03] <hannascott> eagles0513875: hehe... I am so not "getting into linux" :)
[14:03] <hannascott> eagles0513875: been hooked for years :P
[14:03] <eagles0513875> then why are you here
[14:03] <eagles0513875> oh
[14:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:03] <eagles0513875> hahaha
[14:03] <eagles0513875> might want to take this into offtopic since this is for support
[14:03] <eagles0513875> #kubuntu-offtopic]
[14:03] <eagles0513875> #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:04] <user6> having bios password protected ..... resetting bios clear also password?
[14:06] <eagles0513875> O_o
[14:10] <user6> hi eagles
[14:11] <yeara> !gnumeric
[14:12] <eagles0513875> !info gnumeric
[14:12] <eagles0513875> yeara is that what you were looking for
[14:13] <yeara> yes
[14:14] <eagles0513875> :)
[14:18] <ubuntu> !paste
[14:21] <ubuntu> hello I'm in the live CD and i'd like to know if all peripherals are recognized correcly before to install Kunbuntu on Asus Laptop x53sr... what i have to do?
[14:23] <ubuntu> this is what I got doing lspci ..... http://paste.ubuntu.com/79836/
[14:23] <ubuntu> any tips?
[14:28] <ubuntu> !ubuntu
[14:29] <ubuntu> #ubuntu
[14:35] <ubuntu> hello I'm in the live CD and i'd like to know if all peripherals are recognized correcly before to install Kunbuntu on Asus Laptop x53sr... what i have to do?
[14:38] <ku4ve> !hardware
[14:39] <genii> You may also want to ssee the laptop testing team wiki for your model
[14:40] <genii> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam
[14:42] <genii> Hmm. Any ideas on why ksensors ses both cpu temps and can monitor them on the bar but not display both in the panel?
[14:54] <pode1> is there a linux command to see how much power my system is drawing?
[14:55] <Copelia> !fr
[14:58] <stdin> !info powertop | pode1
[15:03] <chris062689> Hello :D
[15:13] <dimonjik> Where am i O_0
[15:16] <dimonjik> Is this channel for discussing the kubuntu only?
[15:18] <faileas> yes
[15:19] <chris062689> how many active developers are in the Kubuntu team?  Is there anyway I can get in contact with them?
[15:19] <dimonjik> #ubuntu
[15:19] <jpds> chris062689: /join #kubuntu-devel
[15:27] <reanimation> how to ugrade ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
[15:27] <reanimation> please help
[15:27] <jpds> !upgrade | reanimation
[15:28] <reanimation> can we upgrade 8.04 into 8.10
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:48] <jorge__> hola?
[15:48] <jpds> !es | jorge__
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> !es | jorge__
[15:50] <jorge__> hi, help me, after reconf. my xorg.con kubuntu can't load mi nvidia driver and soun card drivers
[15:51] <jorge__> the spanish channel is until¡¡¡
[15:52] <Pici> !es | jorge__
[15:52] <jorge__> im write in english¡¡¡¡
[15:54] <jorge__> hey please help me¡¡¡
[15:55] <jorge__> bah yakees¡¡ ¬¬
[15:57] <Tm_T> er?
[15:59] <RurouniJones> That went well
[16:18] <janorcutt> lo ppl
[16:18] <thomas> hi
[16:18] <thomas> schöne wetter hab wir
[16:18] <thomas> in wien
[16:18] <faileas> !de
[16:19] <jorge__> españooool
[16:19] <faileas> ...
[16:20] <jorge__> shit¡¡¡¡   please link to spanish cnnel
[16:20] <jorge__> channel
[16:20] <thomas> ich pc ich arbeite
[16:20] <bazhang> jorge__, no cursing please
[16:20] <bazhang> jorge #ubuntu-es
[16:20] <bazhang> thomas, english here
[16:21] <bazhang> thomas, or /join #ubuntu-de
[16:21] <jorge__> #kubuntu-es
[16:21] <thomas> nein ich kann nicht english
[16:21] <bazhang> thomas, stop
[16:21] <bazhang> !de | thomas
[16:21] <thomas> ich mus mit was in pc
[16:21] <thomas> mama
[16:32] <e-head> Having locale problems after a fresh 8.10 install.
[16:32] <e-head> Anyone know how to fix this?  It appears to be a fairly ubiquitious problem, but nobody seems to know how to fix it.
[16:38] <blubb> after upgrading to intrepid, file associations are broken in kde4. When opening a pdf for example I get the open with dialog, but its list of apps is empty.. nor does it remeber my setting
[16:44] <blubb> whats the best way to update openoffice to version3, which repo can I use?
[16:44] <noaXess> can i recover a file, that is deleted over a samba share?
[16:48] <vbgunz> can anyone tell me how to get a "PROPERTY" from dbus? I can call methods but getting a property is literally throwing me into endless loops :(
[16:48] <vbgunz> qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/MainWindow_1 com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.visible ... I keep getting no such method visible... but its not a method... so how do I get the property???
[16:50] <guille> hola buenas tardes : )
[16:50] <nogagplz> guys, which is the config file I modify to change the gateway in 8.04?
[16:51] <guille> algun spanish en la sala plis?
[16:52] <faileas> !es
[16:52] <faileas> i wonder..
[16:52] <faileas> !en
[16:52] <faileas> ahh ;p
[17:15] <bhaskark> hi, digikam is missing in kubuntu 8.10, is it safe to install digikam package from adept?
[17:18] <janorcutt> or synaptic, just make sure all the dependancies are met
[17:23] <bhaskark> ok
[17:24] <user6>  and another pc is saying goodbye to Micro$oft
[17:31] <janorcutt> windoze sucks! bring on the buntu
[17:32] <blubb> after upgrading to intrepid, file associations are broken in kde4. When opening a pdf for example I get the open with dialog, but its list of apps is empty.. nor does it remeber my setting
[17:43] <janorcutt> did you upgrade with adept?
[17:43] <alarm> hey there. anyone knows how to solve the issue between nvidia/xorg/firefox ? that xorg needs so much cpu usage whn using firefox (my scrolling for example , or watching a flash movie )
[17:47] <andres_> Ayuda :'(
[17:47] <andres_> help
[17:52] <winterelf> hi all :) i need help with something, i have a laptop that i plugged to a big screen, it's working in the highest ressolution and i have conpiz working on it, but when i use the cube to rotate i can see a wierd brake in the screen as if i have a small screen+ big screen in the same screen... something wierd, like it cut itself like a wierd mirror or shadow of the same thing or something
[17:54] <winterelf> i have intel x3100 graphic card , and don't realy know if this is the problam cause when i unplugged the big screen and use only the laptop then everything works fine
[18:21] <thomas> hi
[18:41] <RatTub> I installed kubuntu on a computer, but decided to remove everything KDE and use it as a command-line machine only ...but now when I boot, the screen stays black and I can't login
[18:41] <RatTub> ssh works fine tho
[18:41] <RatTub> any ideas?
[18:42] <MR-S> did you remove kde stuff and simply reboot ?
[18:42] <RatTub> yes
[18:42] <RatTub> using this tip http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[18:42] <MR-S> you nee to change the runlevel in /etc/inettab to level 2
[18:43] <MR-S> than reboot
[18:43] <MR-S> you can do that by ssl
[18:43] <MR-S> * sorry type /etc/inittab
[18:44] <RatTub> I don't have a /etc/inittab
[18:44] <MR-S> wired I do
[18:45] <MR-S> open a konsole and typ ls /etc/init* What comes up ?
[18:46] <RatTub> init.d/     initramfs-tools/      inputrc
[18:47] <mihai__> hello, is anybody who knows how to install amarok 2 around ?
[18:47] <MR-S> oh .. i am on the wrong OS here. Open teh find dialog and try to find the file "inittab"
[18:47] <mihai__> somebody ? anybody ?
[18:47] <MR-S> or just type whereis inittab
[18:48] <RatTub> gives me "inittab:"
[18:48] <MR-S> that means it does no know the file. one moment I need to check
[18:48] <RatTub> ok thanks
[18:48] <dinofly> hi
[18:49] <dinofly> does anyone knows how to configure a vpn connection in kubuntu ?
[18:49] <MR-S> take a look at this
[18:49] <MR-S> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099510.0
[18:50] <mihai__> can anyone help me with amarok ?!?!?!?
[18:52] <MR-S> got the answer : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Change_the_default_runlevel
[18:54] <robinr> hi, how do I find man-pages in kubuntu, for the fnmatch library call
[18:54] <MR-S> for cli startx : id:1:initdefault:
[18:55] <RatTub> MR-S: thanks, I'm rebooting to see if it works
[18:55] <uman> Hi. Anyone know how to make a script or something thats says IF cerntain port/ip connection activated= true THEN do something, like send an email Thanks
[18:55] <mihai__> Helooo.....can anyone help me out here ? :(
[18:56] <RatTub> aaaaw crap... runlevel 2 is "no networking" right?
[18:57] <MR-S> runlevel 2 is default one ( GUI Lgging )
[18:58] <MR-S> networking should not be a problem
[18:58] <uman> Hi. Anyone know how to make a script or something thats says IF cerntain port/ip connection activated= true THEN do something, like send an email Thanks
[18:58] <RatTub> ok, but I don't want a GUI login.. I want a command-line login
[18:58] <MR-S> change 2 to 1
[19:01] <RatTub> still nothing on the screen
[19:02] <ibuffy> how do you switch tabs in konsole?
[19:02] <ibuffy> w/out the mouse
[19:02] <Tm_T> ibuffy: shift-left ?
[19:02] <Tm_T> for example
[19:02] <ibuffy> wow, that was easy
[19:02] <Tm_T> ctrl-pgup
[19:03] <Tm_T> etc
[19:03] <ibuffy> any other ones?
[19:03] <ibuffy> shift < or > would like konqueror would be nice
[19:03] <Tm_T> ibuffy: see  settings -> configure shortcuts
[19:03] <ibuffy> :)
[19:04] <Tm_T> it's KDE, it's configurable =)
[19:04] <MR-S> thats not good .. mhh try installing the kde packages and see if you can reboot as normaly ( dont forget to change inittab to 2 )
[19:10] <ibuffy> how to access the konsole menu from the keyboard?
[19:10] <ibuffy> (didn't see a shortcut for that)
[19:20] <bobbo85> When using compiz as a window manager, what should I use as a window decorator?  In the compiz icon menu, my options are kwin window decorator and emerald
[19:30] <bobbo85> Alt+F2 is not working for me, what can I do to fix this?
[19:35] <blubb> after upgrading to intrepid, file associations are broken in kde4. When opening a pdf for example I get the open with dialog, but its list of apps is empty.. nor does it remeber my setting
[19:45] <lakis1982> i want to ask something.. i have kubuntu intrepid  and when i go to get into my second local disk which i have as storage disk it prompts me for password.. i type the password and it cant get into the local disk ..it cant get into ..... most of the items this happens ..a few times a can get without problem itno my disk ... what should i do ??
[19:45] <user6> hi guys ... i need an answer...
[19:47] <user6> when an application said to install QT3 library.... i had to install libqt3-headers?
[19:47] <user6> what i had to install
[19:47] <user6> ??
[19:59] <user6> noody can say to me what is the meanning of install QT3 library ...? What should I install
[19:59] <user6> ?
[20:01] <user6> #kubuntu-it
[20:02] <comedit> I was used to use dolphin in 8.04 with commands like open as root, edit as root
[20:02] <comedit> in 8.10 they are gone
[20:03] <comedit> or is there a way to activate them
[20:18] <uman> Hi. Is it normal for there to be constant internet traffic (according to firestarter firewall) in my ubuntu box about 10 KB/s? I have all applications closed but there is always some traffic according to firestarter. i use a usb cable modem thanks
[20:18] <noaXess> if i run tar from command line like this: tar -czvf /home/use/outputfile.tar.gz /home/user/inputfile.log it works..
[20:19] <noaXess> if i run the command in a shell script.. like this: $outputfile=/home/user/outputfile.tar.gz $inputfile=/home/user/inputfile.log
[20:20] <noaXess> then: tar -czvf $outputfile $inputfile it get Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[20:20] <noaXess> need i create first the $outputfile?
[20:21] <PhilRod> noaXess: you don't need the $ when setting a variable
[20:21] <PhilRod> more specifically, you mustn't have one
[20:22] <noaXess> yes correct..
[20:22] <noaXess> wrong explaination here ;)
[20:22] <noaXess> i have it without $ if i define it..
[20:25] <sgh> Hi all. Just a question - where is kde 4.2 beta1? People are talking about bad KDE-integration in kubuntu. I'm guessin that it is not true since it will remove the reason for having a "K" in Kubuntu.
[20:25] <noaXess> PhilRod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79984/
[20:25] <noaXess> PhilRod: if i do that over a shell script it won't work
[20:28] <drmacsoft> hi all
[20:31] <snikker> how can i check the cpu fan speed?
[20:33] <didi> buonasera se possibile volevo fare due domande
[20:33] <Pici> !it | didi
[20:34] <lakis1982> how do i make kubuntu start dvd movie automatically when i insert it inot the dvd drive???
[20:34] <didi> scusate
[20:48] <noaXess> anybody an idea why my tar script won't work if i do it over a shell script? i get: file.tar.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[20:49] <genii> noaXess: Does it work if you just normally run it?
[20:49] <noaXess> genii: jep.. thats my problem
[20:50] <noaXess> thats the code.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/79984/
[20:50] <noaXess> in a #!/bin/sh script
[20:50] <genii> noaXess:You have first line of script reading as:    #!/bin/sh         then?
[20:51] <noaXess> genii: jep
[20:51] <noaXess> all other function works.. wait i will send all the code
[20:51] <snikker> how can i check the cpu fan speed?
[20:51] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/79998/
[20:53] <noaXess> genii: intresting part line 22-23 and 44-49
[20:54] <genii> noaXess: And it's in root's crontab or so?
[20:54] <noaXess> genii: i run the script with sudo script
[20:56] <noaXess> i don't know what's wrong.. the logfile_winsoft will be created cause i fill it with <&3 and it is there..
[20:57] <hoonteke> where are the kubuntu screen savers?  I finally got around to personalizing some settings and noted that I have not screensavers other than blank screen.  I'm not immediately seeing a package to install either.  suggestions?
[20:57] <noaXess> with.. >&3 ^
[20:57] <genii> noaXess: Perhaps "logfile_in" is not existing when you go to tar it
[20:58] <genii> Or null, etc
[20:58] <noaXess> genii: have you seen the other code? http://paste.ubuntu.com/79998/
[20:59] <noaXess> genii: logfile_in is there logfile_winsoft and it is there it will be filled with >&3
[20:59] <noaXess> genii: or should i close this log before taring it?
[20:59] <noaXess> with exec 3> i open it.. ow to close it?
[20:59] <genii> noaXess: Good practice, since it may be locked
[20:59] <noaXess> aha..
[21:00] <noaXess> how to close it?
[21:01] <genii> noaXess: Not sure, but in #bash they'd know
[21:02] <noaXess> genii: ok..
[21:02] <noaXess> thanks
[21:02] <salvo> hello
[21:03] <genii> noaXess: http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2007/10/24/bash-tip-closing-file-descriptors/comment-page-1/
[21:04] <noaXess> genii: aha thanks
[21:05] <genii> noaXess: np
[21:10] <snikker> someone know how monitor che cpu fan speed?
[21:15] <Nannu> holas
[21:15] <Nannu> hi
[21:17] <Nannu> what version of ubuntu uses Ubuntu ultimate 8.10???
[21:20] <sigma_> !java
[21:28] <Guest91468> hello my kde4 crashed and doest go up anymore so I'm using textbase client now.. Need help for recovery. I tried to install ati drivers latest from the ati.com 8.11
[21:28] <Guest91468> and I did like the instructions told me but I failed somehow because im now with out kde4
[21:36] <tkstka> hello.. My graphic workstation went down KDE4 doesnt work.. :C I tried to install Ati drivers the new ones in the ati.com page 8.11 and now it doesnt work.. I need help please I'm now using textbase operating system so if someone could guide me
[21:36] <tkstka> please
[21:36] <tkstka> :c
[21:37] <willis__> Hmm
[21:37] <willis__> well using the ones  from ati.com would be the LAST thing  i would of tried..
[21:37] <willis__> has the video card/X ever worked?
[21:37] <tkstka> yes
[21:37] <tkstka> it worked
[21:37] <willis__> and then after some update it stopped? or when exactly?
[21:38] <tkstka> but when I tried to watch videos my desktop was flashing in the background
[21:38] <tkstka> so I got some advises to upgrade my graphic card from here
[21:38] <tkstka> :)
[21:38] <willis__> You mean upgrade the video drivers - using the ones from  ati.com ?
[21:38] <tkstka> yes
[21:39] <tkstka> well how should I have upgraded them
[21:39] <tkstka> ?
[21:39] <tkstka> Like I said before here I'm noob at linux
[21:39] <tkstka> I've learned a lot these couple of days
[21:40] <tkstka> but I dont have the skills to crack this buzzle
[21:40] <willis__> using the ones from ati.com was proberly not the best thing to do..
[21:40] <tkstka> yea I figured that much by now
[21:40] <tkstka> :)
[21:40] <willis__> I tend to 'use the ones in the repos' - if that fails. 'use envyng' and if that fails' try the one from the nvidia/ati sites.
[21:41] <tkstka> well how can I install old drivers
[21:41] <tkstka> back?
[21:41] <willis__> to get a workable X setup back. You may have to get it set to use the ati drivers.  What does 'startx' tell you if you try to start up X ?
[21:42] <willis__> at one time you would edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change the Driver 'fglrx' line - to read  Driver 'ati'
[21:42] <willis__> thats IF your xorg.conf even has such a line these days
[21:45] <fortu> hola
[21:46] <jim_p> hi boys and girls

[21:46] <jim_p> what is the best kde color scheme that is easy on the eyes?
[21:47] <Barackuse> blue
[21:47] <jim_p> blue?
[21:47] <Barackuse> its the most common
[21:47] <Barackuse> yes
[21:47] <Barackuse> blue is suppose to be soothing, easy, calm
[21:47] <jim_p> do you mean the default kde theme ?
[21:48] <Barackuse> you can use that or you can tweak it bit (thats what I did)
[21:48] <Barackuse> I dont use KDE any more, now I use gnome
[21:49] <Barackuse> Is there ANYONE out that there that is using Ubuntu as a guest on VBOX over a XP Host?  Anyone
[21:50] <BluesKaj> Barackuse, perhaps a query in #ubuntu would serve you better or even #windows
[21:50] <jim_p> Barackuse, any specific problem i can help?
[21:51] <Barackuse> bah  ok well Ubuntu dump me into this channel by default <shrugs>
[21:51] <tkstka> OK.. so the error goes "DL open: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx-drv.so: undefined symbol: mizerolinescreenindex; Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so; Failed to load module "fglrx" (load failed, 7); no drivers available; fatal server error; no screen found"
[21:52] <Barackuse> jim_p:  Well I trying to access the web/ftp servers on my guest (Ubuntu) using virtualbox on XP
[21:52] <jim_p> Barackuse, well tell me the problem and i promise to help. i know vbox fairly well
[21:52] <tkstka> in the instruction I used said I had to upgrade fglrx drivers and I did like it said
[21:52] <tkstka> willis__: you there?
[21:53] <Barackuse> jim_p: ahh sweet, well right now Ubuntu is running smoothly on VBOX over XP, I only have one small issue - getting my XP and the world to acceees my web/ftp servers
[21:54] <Barackuse> jim_p: Any ideas?
[21:55] <jim_p> Barackuse, how does the guest os connect to the internet?
[21:55] <Barackuse> jim_p: well I'm on it now :)  It connects nicly
[21:55] <jim_p> Barackuse, lol
[21:55] <jim_p> Barackuse, through nat?
[21:56] <tkstka> is there a white knight who would save me
[21:56] <tkstka> ?
[21:56] <tkstka> :o
[21:56] <Barackuse> jim_p: yep  using the default <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:57] <jim_p> Barackuse, do we axclude port forwarding issues?
[21:57] <jim_p> *exclude
[21:57] <Barackuse> jim_p: you mean with using vboxmanager?
[21:58] <Barackuse> For the most part, Vbox runs Ubuntu 8.10 very nice over XP...  so far it is very smooth
[21:58] <jim_p> Barackuse, no. if I want to connect to that server, i connect to some ip. my request reaches your router. Does the router forward my request to the host os and from there to the guest os?
[21:58]  * willis__ is in and out all day
[21:59] <tkstka> willis__:
[21:59] <tkstka> can you help me
[21:59] <tkstka> before you go out all day
[21:59] <Barackuse> jim_p: yep it sure does
[21:59] <jim_p> tkstka, can you tell us the problem?
[21:59] <tkstka> OK.. so the error goes "DL open: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx-drv.so: undefined symbol: mizerolinescreenindex; Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so; Failed to load module "fglrx" (load failed, 7); no drivers available; fatal server error; no screen found"
[21:59] <Barackuse> jim_p: my host uses <IP_ADDRESS> and the guest is <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:59] <willis__> tkstka,  you may want to try the envy-ng tool to  try to get it going. since you have used the drivers from ati.com - theres no telling what they have done
[21:59] <tkstka> i tried to install drivers for ati
[22:00] <jim_p> Barackuse, then you need to forward to <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:00] <willis__> or you could try to reinstall the ati drivers from the repos. - not sure what the package name is fro those
[22:00] <Barackuse> jim_p: ok, where?  in Vobx?  If so how
[22:00] <jim_p> tkstka, how did you try? there are 2 ways of installing. the repo way and the ati way.
[22:00] <willis__> jim_p,  and the envyng way. :)
[22:01] <tkstka> the last way
[22:01] <marcondes> alguem aqui fala portugues?
[22:01] <tkstka> the first was easy
[22:01] <tkstka> it didnt work
[22:01] <jim_p> willis__, that counts as an ati way because it gets atis installer. in the same manner the restricted drivers manager counts as repo way
[22:01] <Barackuse> jim_p: Also I cant not ping to ether boxes from ether box
[22:01] <tkstka> I couldnt get apt-get to work
[22:01] <tkstka> :C
[22:01] <willis__> tkstka,  actyally You said they DID work.. you just had video playback issues.
[22:02] <tkstka> so I downloaded the updates from ati.com and did like in the instructions
[22:03] <tkstka> yes it did work and someone here said I should upgrade my graphic drivers so I did
[22:03] <tkstka> :D
[22:03] <marcondes> hi
[22:03] <tkstka> but I
[22:03] <tkstka> 'm so noob
[22:03] <tkstka> and accidently my pc
[22:04] <marcondes> please somebody help with this : Stopping DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail]
[22:04] <marcondes> what that?
[22:04] <tkstka> is there a way to get new drivers with apt-get install
[22:04] <tkstka> or something
[22:04] <tkstka> something easy
[22:04] <tkstka> :)
[22:04] <willis__> tkstka,  theres awyas a way..
[22:04] <willis__> you could try the envyng tool as i said earlier
[22:04] <tkstka> what does it do
[22:04] <willis__> jim_p,  says that gets them from ati.com - so it MIGHT install them properly
[22:04] <tkstka> and how do I use it
[22:04] <willis__> !envyng
[22:05] <willis__> Im not sure how you use envyng from the terminal. :) but  to isntall it 'sudo apt-get install envyng-qt'
[22:05] <willis__> thenperhaps try running 'sudo envyng'
[22:05] <tkstka> ok thx
[22:06] <willis__> I was thinking EnvyNG dident alsyas have the 'latest' drivers.. but ive rarely used the tool
[22:06] <jim_p> willis__, no. i always say use the repo and a proper xorg.conf
[22:07] <willis__> You said that the Tool gets them from ati.com. :) i missed an IT.
[22:07] <tkstka> so I installed envyng
[22:07] <willis__> as in 'that tool gets them from ati.com' :P
[22:07] <tkstka> what now?
[22:07] <willis__> thenperhaps try running 'sudo envyng'
[22:07] <willis__> as i said 20 sec ago. :P
[22:08] <tkstka> ohh ok
[22:08] <tkstka> didnt see
[22:08] <jim_p> i said that ENVY takes the installer from ati
[22:08] <jim_p> anyway
[22:08] <willis__> thats what i said you said.. :) i did NOT say you said it was the perfered method.
[22:09] <jim_p> oh ok
[22:09] <willis__> and I was thinking it did not always get the Latest drivers...
[22:09] <willis__> which is why i said it was 'differnt' from the ones at ati.com  -  it could be a little out of date
[22:10] <willis__> of course hes going through allthis because of video playback issues with the ones in the repos.. theres no guarentee that the new drivers will fix that problem
[22:11] <tkstka> so I'm installing new drivers now.. I will boot soon then come back here to report my findings :)
[22:11] <tkstka> brb
[22:14] <unix> hi
[22:14] <unix> i need help
[22:15] <tkstka> SO it worked
[22:15] <tkstka> :)
[22:15] <tkstka> but the same problem with the videoplay is there
[22:15] <tkstka> :C
[22:15] <unix> somebody pleae help me install adobe flash in kubuntu
[22:16] <willis__> tkstka,  now ya know why people tend to dislike ati.
[22:16] <HappySmileMan> unix: There's a package called Kubuntu-restricted-extras in the package manager
[22:16] <willis__> unix,  i tend to install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package and igets them and more.
[22:16] <tkstka> well in windows it's fine. I think it's little better then nvidia in some games
[22:16] <unix> where will i get it
[22:16] <HappySmileMan> That includes flash, MP3, Java (I think) etc.
[22:17] <HappySmileMan> In the menu under applications there's an "Add/Remove Software option", load that in and search for restricted
[22:17] <unix> ok...
[22:18] <unix> it says no matches
[22:18] <willis__> or do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[22:18] <unix> happysmile
[22:18] <unix> ok..lemme see
[22:18] <willis__> note to 'accept' the java license agreement in the terminal window.. use the TAB key to get to the 'ok' button
[22:19] <unix> but where is the terminal window?
[22:19] <willis__> !terminal
[22:20] <tkstka> willis__ I've already downloaded kubuntu-resticted-extras so what next when I want to upgrade my video codecs
[22:20] <tkstka> ?
[22:21] <willis__> 'downloaded' how?
[22:21] <willis__> video codecs for mplayer at at the medibuntu repo.
[22:21] <unix> its giving error
[22:21] <unix> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:21] <willis__> !medibuntu
[22:22] <willis__> unix,  did you run the command as root with sudo?
[22:22] <unix> lemme see
[22:22] <willis__> are you runnign OTHe rpackage manager tools? only one can run at a time
[22:22] <HappySmileMan> unix: Close the package manager (Add/Remove Software) and then try the command
[22:22] <unix> but what is the rooot password?
[22:22] <willis__> Just like the error message says... :)     another process using it
[22:22] <willis__> there is no root password
[22:22] <HappySmileMan> Should be your password
[22:22] <willis__> sudo wants YOUR user password thats not the same as a root password
[22:22] <unix> ok..1 sec
[22:23]  * willis__ notes its been more then 1 sec...
[22:23] <willis__> :P
[22:24] <unix> again error
[22:24] <HappySmileMan> Same error?
[22:24] <unix> yes
[22:24] <roger_> install kuser and give root a password maybe
[22:24] <HappySmileMan> Are you sure there is no package manager running?
[22:24] <unix> its running
[22:25] <willis__> logout/back in. :) and see for sure..perhaps..
[22:25] <HappySmileMan> You should close the package manager before using the command, only one can be used at a time
[22:25] <unix> should i close package manager??
[22:25] <willis__> "there can be only one!'
[22:25] <HappySmileMan> (Which i think is a bit stupid)
[22:25] <unix> ok
[22:25] <willis__> Yes.. we said you need to close otu ALL other package manager tools befor using that command
[22:25] <unix> another error
[22:26] <willis__> Better stupid and safe..  :)
[22:26] <unix> Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extrassudo
[22:26] <willis__> Ive noticed that under Vista now a days - you cant get more then 1 installer going
[22:26] <willis__> unix,  what command did you use ExACTLY? sounds like a typo on your part.
[22:26] <HappySmileMan> Remove the "sudo" at end of the line, should be only at the start
[22:27] <willis__>  'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[22:27] <unix> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extrasudo
[22:27] <HappySmileMan> willis__: Well running a package manager is not the same as running an installer, sure you should only be able to install one thing at a time, but you should be able to browse packages while installing
[22:27] <HappySmileMan> Yeah the sudo at end shouldn't be there, sudo always comes at the start
[22:28] <unix> but again error
[22:28] <willis__> I want to know how i can do a Clean new install of Ubuntu, not connected to the internet.. and it will STILL say theres 'updates' when the thing has never been on the internet to see updates..
[22:28] <unix> Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:28] <roger_> dude i just did that and it worked
[22:28] <willis__> this is Kubuntu 8.10 you are using unix ?
[22:28] <roger_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras i'm installing that now so mayb reboot your pc and see if it works
[22:28] <HappySmileMan> Oh man no idea why it can't find it
[22:28] <unix> yes
[22:28] <willis__> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, then try it again...
[22:29] <willis__> whenin doubt, update, upgrade, try again. :)
[22:29] <unix> ok
[22:29] <roger_> what's the program to view ms sql databases, mdf viewer
[22:30] <unix> its taking a long time to upgrade
[22:31] <willis__> sounds lik eyou havent upgraded in a long time then
[22:31] <unix> lol
[22:31] <unix> first time
[22:31] <unix> yahhooooooooooo
[22:31] <unix> now its working
[22:32] <willis__> so rember kiddies.. "update, and upgrade regularrary, for proper system hygeine!"
[22:32] <willis__> "_
[22:32] <willis__> 'Duck and Cover!"
[22:32] <unix> thanks wills
[22:33] <unix> and happysmile
[22:33] <HappySmileMan> np
[22:33] <unix> can i install sun viryual box?
[22:33] <unix> virtual*
[22:34] <willis__> !vbox
[22:34] <tkstka> how do I change resolution
[22:34] <Samuel-NotAFK> How do I set my powerbutton to suspend to RAM?
[22:34] <HappySmileMan> Oh and when you get to Java license agreement (if that's still there), use tab and space to press OK, I've gotten stuck on that every time thinking it wasn't letting me continue
[22:34] <willis__> it may bein the medibuntu repos.. or get the packaes from the vbox homepage.
[22:34] <lesergi> hi all
[22:34] <willis__> HappySmileMan,  :) i said that earlier.. heh...
[22:34] <unix> is gutsy a package?
[22:35]  * willis__ still wonders why these comanies use these lame license agreements that dont really do much
[22:35] <willis__> other then annoy people with click-here--annoyacvnes
[22:35] <HappySmileMan> Gutsy is an older version of (K)ubuntu, presumably that just hasn't been updated yet :P
[22:35] <stdin> gutsy is the codename for version 6.10
[22:35] <roger_> any programs for kubuntu to look at ms sql databases
[22:35] <tkstka> how do I change resolution?
[22:35] <willis__> !fixres
[22:36] <willis__> I thought the KDE settings tools had a resolution tool also.
[22:36] <gtx> hi all, i installed kubuntu today on a acer aspire 6935. everything else works, but there is no sound. it is a ALC889 soundchip. is there a way to get it working? other users with a aspire 6935?
[22:36] <unix> how can i avoid password prompt while accessing ntfs volumes?
[22:37] <unix> how can i avoid password prompt while accessing ntfs volumes?
[22:37] <willis__> put a proper entry for them in the /etc/fstab file unix , that way they automount at boot.. not 'automatically' by the file manager
[22:37] <willis__> !ntfs-3g
[22:38] <willis__> This can be done by instlling/running the  ntfs-config tool. or other ways
[22:40] <unix> how can i extent my '/' partition size on the fly?/
[22:40] <willis__> You can use gparted to resize partitions..  but thats not 'on the fly'
[22:40] <unix> fdisk?
[22:41] <willis__> fdisk does NOT resize
[22:41] <unix> can u please explain
[22:41] <unix> ??
[22:41] <willis__> at least it dosent resize and keep current data.
[22:41] <willis__> fdisk partitions disks..  gparted does that and more.
[22:41] <unix> but how to use gparted?
[22:41] <willis__> install it, run it.. use it...
[22:42] <willis__> slide the little sliders, hit apply.. :)
[22:42] <roger_> i had alot of node errors when i tried gparted
[22:42] <willis__> and have a lot of patience.
[22:42] <unix> ok
[22:42] <willis__> and of course BACKUP IMPORNTANT stuff!
[22:42] <willis__> i tend to use gparted, from a gparted live cd.
[22:43] <willis__> you can NOt reisze a mounted /in use partition.
[22:44] <unix> oh
[22:44] <unix> gparted cd?
[22:44] <roger_> why did i have alot of node errors after i resized ext2 partition
[22:45] <roger_> oops ext3
[22:45] <unix> in fstab...while giving the nffs volume....whats this dump and pass?
[22:46] <willis__> man mount, and man fstab to seee. :) i normally use  0 1 or was it 1 0 - i even for get what they do exactly.. somthing to do with the ofer they are checked, when booted.. and somthing else..
[22:47] <willis__> roger_,  sounds like the filesytem needs tobe checked.
[22:48] <roger_> i reinstalled linux again, but still like to know what happened on resizing that caused all them errors
[22:48] <unix> and..i installed the extras package...but still i cant play youtube videos
[22:48] <unix> and..i installed the extras package...but still i cant play youtube videos
[22:49] <HappySmileMan> You restarted firefox?
[22:49] <unix> im not using firefox
[22:49] <unix> using konqueror
[22:50] <HappySmileMan> Oh I think that needs konqueror-nsplugins to work, since the plugin only works by itself with a few browsers
[22:50] <HappySmileMan> That should probably be included in the restricted extras packages actually
[22:51] <tkstka> hmm everytime I restart my pc the resolution is 1024x768  but  when It loads shows my desctops it automaticly changes to some very low resolution
[22:51] <tkstka> why does it do this?
[22:51] <tkstka> and how can I fix this
[22:57] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to send files to the trash in KDE4? kfmclient no longer moves anything :(
[23:00] <benbloom> is there a good way to have bash trim the first char of output in a script?
[23:01] <willis__> sed/awk can do that  I imagine.
[23:01] <willis__> depends on exactly wha tyou are trying to do.
[23:02] <PhilRod> benbloom: you want to get rid of the first character on every line, or just the very first character of the whole output?
[23:02] <PhilRod> (or something else?)
[23:03] <benbloom> PhilRod: I'm using find -execdir and I want to trim the ./ off the biginning of each "{}" or just the .
[23:05] <benbloom> so PhilRod, for now, I have: find /home/benbloom/Downloads/Torrents/Disney/  -type f -iname "*.avi" -execdir echo /home/benbloom/Videos/encoded/"{}" \;
[23:06] <benbloom> using echo as a tester for the time being. but output looks like /home/benbloom/Videos/encoded/./filename1 /home/benbloom/Videos/encoded/./filename2 etc
[23:08] <benbloom> if I could trim the . off the beginning it would be perfect. I remember most programming languages have easy functions for this (c++, perl, php) but I can't remember what they're called, so searching bash docs is not helpful PhilRod
[23:08] <PhilRod> sorry, got distracted
[23:08] <PhilRod> I'd pipe it to "sed -e 's,^.,,'"
[23:09] <PhilRod> (ie, replace the first character on the line with nothing)
[23:09] <benbloom> ah! sed very nice
[23:10] <PhilRod> although trying to get pipes in the -exec part of a find command is asking for a world of pain
[23:10] <leo_> any braziliam here ?
[23:11] <benbloom> i don't like pain very much. :(
[23:11] <leo_> where does a ubuntu 8.10 beginner could get some help ?
[23:12] <HappySmileMan> #ubuntu if you're not use KDE (kubuntu)
[23:13] <PhilRod> benbloom: xargs might be your friend then.
[23:13] <leo_> vielen danke
[23:15] <benbloom> !brazil | leo_
[23:16] <PhilRod> benbloom: find . -type f -iname '*.root' | sed -e 's,^.,,' | xargs  -L 1 echo foo
[23:18] <PhilRod> benbloom: that'll print "foo filename" without the leading . for all the "*.root" files
[23:19] <benbloom> ok! i'm not clear on the use of xargs. pretty new to this stuff I'll see if I can get it to work for my purposes. thanks
[23:20] <PhilRod> benbloom: the "-L 1" tells it to run the command once for each line - otherwise it runs the command once, with all the lines as the command line arguments
[23:21] <noaXess> !backup
[23:22] <benbloom> ah. ok. only problem here is I have to run it from the source directory (execdir was key here) or it prints the entire path to file. I need just the filename.
[23:22] <unix> how can i record my voice ?
[23:23] <benbloom> PhilRod: I didn't mean to come here scrounging your skills. I hope you don't think I'm trying to get you to write my script for me
[23:23] <unix> how can i record my voice ?
[23:23] <unix> how can i record my voice ?
[23:23] <unix> how can i record my voice ?
[23:23] <benbloom> !patience | unix
[23:24] <unix> sorry
[23:24] <PhilRod> benbloom: not at all. I like shell scripting :-). And this is one of those things that sometimes it's easier to just see an example
[23:25] <benbloom> I don't have the answer for you unix. wish I did. I'm sure there's a program just for that (provided you have an input device :)
[23:26] <benbloom> well PhilRod I agree. it's how I learn quickly. my problem is I have a faulty memory (brain) and can't remember the stuff I learned over the past few years. took a 5 year break from computers and programming and now I feel like a total noob
[23:28] <zanberdo> ok, I've just installed kubuntu 8.10.  I see it defaults to kde 4.1 and was wondering if there is a way to install kde 3.5?
[23:29] <PhilRod> benbloom: well, shell scripting is the worst, since there's not really any rhyme or reason to it - it's just a bunch of random apps that do different things
[23:29] <PhilRod> programming in a proper language is at least more logical :-)
[23:29] <PhilRod> unix: try krec
[23:29] <unix> ok..thanks
[23:29] <BluesKaj> !audacity | unix
[23:30] <BluesKaj> !info audacity
[23:31] <zanberdo> !info kde
[23:31] <benbloom> true PhilRod. I'm working my way back in through python. hopefully will be proficient enough by the end of the winter. and that I can use instead of bash scripting right? or at least make simple bash calls to python
[23:33] <PhilRod> benbloom: yeah, depends on what you want to do. If it's reducible to the shell paradigm ("take one line at a time as input, mung it, and output it again") then shell is often easier, but any more complex processing, and python is usually more appropriate
[23:34] <PhilRod> well, that's MHO - I'm sure you'll work out your own preference soon enough
[23:38] <PhilRod> benbloom: I'm off now, but have fun with your scripting, and good luck!
[23:44] <unix> while editing fstab.....wht should i enter under type?
[23:44] <unix> for ntfs
[23:44] <unix> ?
[23:44] <astromme> ntfs-3g?
[23:45] <unix> i dont know
[23:45] <unix> what is ntfs-3g?
[23:45] <brunito> ola
[23:45] <astromme> !info ntfs-3g
[23:46] <brunito> hola a todos
[23:46] <unix> no...im just editing fstab
[23:46] <unix> i dont know what to give under <type>.
[23:46] <astromme> ntfs-3g
[23:46] <brunito> hablan espaniol??
[23:46] <unix> ok'
[23:46] <astromme> !es
[23:46] <unix> si
[23:47] <astromme> Pero, si, hablo espanol
[23:47] <cuznt> !es
[23:48] <unix> after editing fstab   i cant access ntfs volumes
[23:48] <unix> it says only root can
[23:48] <cuznt> ooops wrong function in the wrong window
[23:49] <unix> ?
[23:50] <BluesKaj> astromme, if you have intrepid installed , you should see the ntfs partition as Volume NTFS in the Dolphin Sidebar
[23:50] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[23:51] <unix> i can see the volume ntfs on dolphin...but i cant open it
[23:51] <unix> it says only root has the permission
[23:52] <xp-killer> im in a hury can someone please tell me how i can convert video on kubuntu?wat programme i need? i want to convert to a compatible avi so my ps3 can read it
[23:53] <estres> ·kubuntu-es
[23:53] <estres> #ubuntu-es
[23:54] <estres> #kubuntu-es
[23:54] <contrast> I was messing with the Sound module in System Settings (trying to get the HDMI output working), and now my sound seems to be borked - the only device listed is PulseAudio, and I can't get sound from anything but MPlayer. Can someone please help me out? (I already tried moving ~/.kde, ~/.pulse and ~/.pulse-cookie, no dice. :-\ )
[23:55] <contrast> xp-killer: I *think* AcetoneISO (not in the repos but available on getdeb.net) and Avidemux has presets for making PS3-compatible files.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to map inputs so if i press mouse1 + mouse2 it can make an input that can be assigned to a shortcut
[23:56] <xp-killer> im in a hury can someone please tell me how i can convert video on kubuntu?wat programme i need? i want to convert to a compatible avi so my ps3 can read it
[23:56] <contrast> xp-killer: ^^
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: ffmpeg and mencoder
[23:57] <contrast> ActionParsnip: Pretty sure it could be done via Xmodmap, not 100% positive though.
[23:57] <xp-killer> contrast: i dont like files like that i dont know how to install it and run it
[23:57] <contrast> xp-killer: Ermm... You download a .deb, go to it in Dolphin and click on it.
[23:58] <contrast> Pretty straightforward. Just because there's no .exe and it's not in the repos doesn't mean it's hard to install. ;-)
[23:58] <charm911> hello!  I've been breaking my head on a the firefox flashplayer-nonfree flickering on some sites and playing ok on other sites... anyone have a solution for that?
[23:58] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: how do i run ffmpeg?its not in the K menu
[23:58] <contrast> charm911: Which version of Flash?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its a cli converter
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> contrast: i'll look into it man
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg mencoder
[23:59] <charm911> <IP_ADDRESS>