[15:19] <TJ-> japro: Can you tell me the PCI ID of the device so I can cross-check ("lspci -nn") ?
[15:21] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Absolutely - I'm building/testing a simple EFI shell bootable USB image here now. I may even be able to write a UEFI shell script for it :)
[15:21] <Bobbo_> \o/
[15:21] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Thanks. :P
[15:21] <japro> TJ-, 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8179] (rev 01)
[15:22] <Bobbo_> I'mma do some work, so I can like... Actually tell my boss I done something today. :3
[15:22] <eeee> mandeep: i guess also /etc/
[15:24] <mandeep> eeee, how to find config files only in /etc
[15:25]  * RedDeath Back
[15:26] <TJ-> japro: So that gives us: "modinfo $(awk '/10EC.*8179/{print $3}' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.*) | grep ^firmware" => "firmware:       rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin" ?
[15:28] <japro> TJ-, indeed
[15:29] <SwissNoob> Hello, my wifi suddenly drops after I load a certain amount of pages, after the drop the router can't be pinged, what commands would help me analyse what's happening ? I can see nothing in /var/log/*.log (I am monitoring it and can reproduce the drop)
[15:30] <TJ-> japro: So either a new linux-firmware package matching the HWE should be included, or the 12.04 linux-firmware package should be updated... the former being the obvious and preferred method
[15:32] <TJ-> japro: I've highlighted this in #ubuntu-kernel. No response so far but you might want to join that channel and monitor it; your input might be useful
[15:34] <TJ-> japro: OK, we have a response, I'll create a bug report now. You should subscribe to it and add your input once I give you the bug number
[15:34] <SwissNoob> Here are some infos I've seen asked when people have similar problems: http://pastebin.com/Xtqhjccm
[15:35] <SwissNoob> I'm really looking for a reason ping suddenly hangs
[15:35] <daftykins> i'd expect to see a network disassociation
[15:37] <mandeep> SwissNoob, I am facing same problem. But then I installed ubuntu alongside the old one. And it's working fine on new one.
[15:40] <SwissNoob> mandeep: that's pretty extreme =O
[15:41] <mandeep> SwissNoob, :)
[15:41] <Joseph_> Hi , I try to hep something related to rsync command , i am not sure this is correct location please advise to go
[15:41] <zap0> how do i get a newer version of PHP installed ?
[15:43] <_486> how to check my gpu core clock speed in ubuntu? im stumped
[15:44] <SchrodingersScat> Joseph_: try asking, what's the issue?  rsync with --dry-run can help prevent certain mistakes
[15:44] <_486> im using Intel(R) Graphics Installer 1.0.6 from 01.org
[15:46] <SchrodingersScat> Joseph_: btw, forgot to mention that just shows you what rsync would have wanted to do
[15:46] <mjrosenb> has anyone put 14.04 on a pandaboard (successfully?)
[15:48] <hasselmm> hi, is it possible to disable xhci_hcd without cooking a new kernel?
[15:50]  * RedDeath Salut/Hello
[15:51] <mjrosenb> hasselmm: is it built as a module? if so, then it should be trivial.
[15:51] <vite> Hi, If I buy a new PC and want to put the harddrive of the old pc on the new one, will it boot up normally from the old HD?
[15:52] <daftykins> vite: depends if you installed any proprietary graphics drivers really
[15:53] <jazzed> quick question: I ran debootstrap to install ubuntu 12.04 32-bit on a 64-bit system. When I chroot into the new rfs and do uname it still shows x86_64 not i386. Is that right?
[15:53] <sakamop> Are there any settings I can use to reduce physical memory usage? I don't want to change DE or application software. I don't mind losing performance to save memory.
[15:53] <circ-user-8fdEt> switch to arch? lol.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> sakamop: use lighter applications then
[15:53] <daftykins> jazzed: chroot uses the currently running host kernel, so that'll probably be inaccurate
[15:53] <mystogan> my ubuntu 14.04 is running in low graphics mode..?how do i get it back to normal?
[15:54] <xikkub> uninstall unity
[15:54] <circ-user-8fdEt> get lxde
[15:54] <mjrosenb> vite: it depends /how/ old.  There is a decent chance that networking won't work properly, as daftykins said, graphics may not work.  if you have an /ancient/ system, you probably won't have sata support...
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: what happened to generate the issue?
[15:54] <jazzed> ty daftykins
[15:55] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, i just installed ubuntu 14.04 but i get the message as  your system is running in low graphics mode?
[15:55] <mjrosenb> jazzed: there is a program called 'linux32', you give it a program to run, and it will change uname.
[15:55] <Igurd> sakamop: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/maximizing_performance#Compcache.2FZram
[15:55] <sakamop> There's no system/kernel setting?
[15:55] <mjrosenb> e.g. linux32 chroot /32-bit-chroot
[15:55] <Igurd> i guess there's a service to do it on ubuntu
[15:55] <mystogan> xikkub,did u address me?
[15:55] <xikkub> mystogan: does ctrl+alt+f7 do anything
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: did you install proprietary video drivers?
[15:56] <sakamop> Nothing I can do in system/kernel like optimise number of allowable open file handles or something?
[15:56] <mystogan> xikkub,doesnt it go to tty7?
[15:56] <xikkub> and no, i was adddressing sakamo
[15:56] <mjrosenb> sakamop: what is your memory usage like now that you want to lower it?
[15:56] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, no
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: can you boot to an older kernel?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: have you ran updates yet?
[15:57] <sakamop> mjrosenb: It's touching 2 GB and I need to get it *under* 2 GB to fit on a specific hardware device
[15:57] <netameta> How can i uninstall something for example, i did sudo make install for NPM, then deleted the folder by mistake, but NPM is still available in the system how can i un install it ?
[15:57] <sakamop> mjrosenb: That's with a browser open etc. The base desktop, no apps, is just about 3/4 GB
[15:57] <daftykins> netameta: find where it is and delete it, then in future don't compile from source again on a packaged distribution (:
[15:57] <xikkub> mystogan: tty7 is where xorg usually runs, assuming xorg is running
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> sakamop: using a lighter DE will help a lot. Gnome + Unity + Compiz is far frmo light
[15:58] <netameta> daftykins how can i find where it is installed ?
[15:58] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, no i did not ,,since i could not log on safely i went through recovery mode,then selected failsafeX and pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and finally pressed ctrl+c which logged me in..
[15:58] <mjrosenb> sakamop: is that before or after deducting buffers + cache?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: do you have web access?
[15:59] <daftykins> netameta: try "which <programname"
[15:59] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, yes i have...
[15:59] <ashadiqi> please help, can i back up all the configuration in ubuntu(including installed apps) and re-apply them after i re-install ubuntu?
[15:59] <daftykins> netameta: oops "which <program name>"
[15:59] <netameta> daftykins, will try thanks
[15:59] <Toadstool2> hello everyone
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <daftykins> ashadiqi: this has already been answered. backup your /home
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: then reboot, may help
[15:59] <mjrosenb> sakamop: you may also want to switch browsers. I've been known to use dillo.
[15:59] <sakamop> mjrosenb: Right now with xchat, chrome, pidgin it's showing 2.3GB + 638MB cache
[15:59] <Toadstool2> im trying to find the best winamp like media player for ubuntu
[16:00] <Toadstool2> any suggestions?
[16:00] <daftykins> Toadstool2: there's no such thing as best, but try clementine
[16:00] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, yes i will try...and thanks
[16:01] <Toadstool2> thanks dafty
[16:01] <mjrosenb> sakamop: as of ~6 months ago, mozilla actually had better memory usage than chrome in a number of tests </shameless plug>
[16:01] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, i will have to try it in recovery mode.Can i?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: as long as there is a web connection, yes :)
[16:01] <mystogan> ok ActionParsnip
[16:01] <mjrosenb> sakamop: and limiting the number of open file descriptors will either have no effect on memory usage, *or* will cause programs to fail spontaneously.
[16:02] <mjrosenb> sakamop: if you can manage to get everything to use hugeTLB, that'll cut down on memory usage.
[16:02] <sakamop> mjrosenb: Fair enough but I'm locked into Chrome due to Google book purchases. :-) I understand what you are saying though - there's no easy way out without changing user apps or DE. I'd prefer to change DE or buy a new laptop.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> sakamop: could switch to Midori
[16:02] <ashadiqi> daftykins: yes i can do the backup, will it be re-applicable after i re-install?
[16:02] <mjrosenb> sakamop: you may also want to investigate x32.
[16:03] <daftykins> ashadiqi: what be reapplicable?
[16:03] <mjrosenb> sakamop: glhfdd on getting it to actuallybuild, but /man/ it'll be nice.
[16:03] <sakamop> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:03] <sakamop> mjrosenb: Also thanks.
[16:03] <ashadiqi> daftykins: all the configuration i made including the apps
[16:03] <mjrosenb> sakamop: n.b. x32 != i686/x86
[16:04] <daftykins> ashadiqi: you'd have to reinstall the software yourself
[16:05] <ashadiqi> daftykins: is there any other way to keep them?
[16:05] <daftykins> ashadiqi: perhaps you should tell us why you're reinstalling, it doesn't make any sense as to why you find these instructions hard
[16:06] <ashadiqi> daftykins: i want to rearrange  my harddisk partition
[16:07] <stefan_np> any girl for descent chat
[16:07] <mjrosenb> ashadiqi: you can likely do that by just booting to a suitable liveenvironment without reinstalling.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> stefan_np: wrong channel dude
[16:08] <stefan_np> then what is proper channel
[16:08] <stefan_np> where
[16:08] <daftykins> none, you're on the wrong network
[16:08] <stefan_np> i see ok tnx
[16:08] <kill_-9_1> Where should the unlucky one which have an Atom PowerVR graphics processor refers?
[16:08] <Toadstool2> lol
[16:09] <Toadstool2> you want chatroulette stefan_np
[16:09] <kill_-9_1> (Intel Atom with PowerVR GPU , Dell system)
[16:09] <Toadstool2> or facebook
[16:09] <AlonzoTG> why do ppl think re-installation is an acceptable thing to suggest someone who just needs to get his sound driver working (why did it break?!?!?! )
[16:10] <mjrosenb> kill_-9_1: i was going to suggest #android :-p
[16:10] <mjrosenb> AlonzoTG: because it'll keep them busy, and not asking questions for a few hours :-p
[16:11] <ashadiqi> mjrosenb: I like my ubuntu just like this, but i made some mistakes in partitioning the hard drive, i made it too small for ubuntu system
[16:11] <kill_-9_1> mjrosenb: For GNU/Linux? (#intel-gfx just made a dialog)
[16:11] <xangua> AlonzoTG: probably because they give little to no information to help them to begin with, just like your question: "why did it break?"
[16:11] <Bobbo_> TJ-: How big is this image?
[16:12] <AlonzoTG> I think someone decided that ALSA was too reliable and decided to replace it with a sack of turd that they could have fun fixing...
[16:12] <mjrosenb> ashadiqi: yeah, you definitely don't need to reinstall for that.
[16:13] <bcvery1> I have '0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/bin/python ~/.i3/i3bg.py' in my crontab; running the command in terminal works, but the crontab is not running it
[16:13] <_486> my sound on laptop has quit a few times... believe it or not closing lid (sleep) and opening again fixed it
[16:13] <AlonzoTG> How is Ubuntu's support for the new AMD HSA processors?
[16:13] <_486> ./shrug
[16:13] <Toadstool2> does anyone know how to specify a port on IRSSI?
[16:13] <ashadiqi> mjrosenb: let my try it, thanks
[16:14] <ashadiqi> daftykins: you too sir, thanks
[16:14] <AlonzoTG> mine does not recognize any audio devices, when it actually is quite well equipped for a $400 bargain barrel model.
[16:14] <helmut_> hi
[16:14] <Toadstool2> i tried "/connect -p 6665 irc.network.net"
[16:14] <Toadstool2> i dont think the syntax is quite right
[16:14] <AlonzoTG> The sound hardware was made by this obscure, no name, 2-bit company called Intel...
[16:14] <Toadstool2> i also tried "/connect irc.network.net:6665"
[16:14] <Toadstool2> that dosent work either
[16:14] <AlonzoTG> so no way that could be supported so that it "just worked"
[16:15] <sage__> put the port number after the server name
[16:15] <sage__> no quotes
[16:15] <sage__> seperated by a space
[16:15] <Pici> Toadstool2: as /help connect says: /connect irc.network.net 6665
[16:15] <Toadstool2> got it
[16:15] <Toadstool2> thanks sage and Pici
[16:16] <hasselmm> mjrosenb: no, it's built into the kernel, unfortunately
[16:17] <sage__> you could write your own driver
[16:18] <Joseph_> Hi   i try to do rysnc from local system itself
[16:18] <urthmover> is unison a good replacement for rsync?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> AlonzoTG: if there are weird bits in the way, like strange ACPI implementations then you may get issues
[16:19] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8320102/
[16:19] <mjrosenb> urthmover: I've heard it tends to slow down a lot on large directories.
[16:19] <Joseph_> i try to get mail alert once its completed
[16:20] <urthmover> mjrosenb: awesome thanks for the heads up, I'll test that before I put it in play
[16:20] <hasselmm> sage__: build a new kernel you mean? well, that's what i try to avoid.
[16:20] <hdtune2k> i wanna know,i use bumblebee to swtich my GPU,(via optirun),it returns "Cannot access 2nd GPU"
[16:20] <hdtune2k> why....
[16:20] <hasselmm> (although that it might proof to be quicker to just build a new kernel, that googeling endless less for something that might not be possible)
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:21] <thanmustoki> hello
[16:21] <hasselmm> ...why can't new USB host drivers just work?
[16:21] <hdtune2k> arrr.....
[16:22] <thanmustoki> anyone can help how to compile kernel in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:22] <hasselmm> took ages until uhci_hcd was usable....
[16:22] <hasselmm> then ages until ehci_hcd was usable...
[16:22] <hasselmm> ...and once again history repeats with xhci_hcd
[16:22] <hdtune2k> noone can answer my bumblebee problem?
[16:22] <hasselmm> something is fundamentally wrong
[16:22] <sage__> thanmustoki: why are you trying to compile a new kernel
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: I asked you a question....
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: you didnt reply
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: why ask something to then IGNORE replys
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: it makes no sense at all
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | thanmustoki
[16:23] <innocent95> Hi
[16:23] <hdtune2k> sorry
[16:23] <hdtune2k> i
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> [17:20] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:24] <hdtune2k>  i didnt see that reply
[16:24] <innocent95> I'm not able to disable the auto-suspend feature in my xubuntu
[16:24] <hdtune2k> let me see
[16:24] <innocent95> is there anyway to do that
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: I believe its in display, you can tell the screen not to dim after so long
[16:24] <thanmustoki> ubottu: thank you very much
[16:25] <hdtune2k> it seems like /etc/issue only contains this:"Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[16:25] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, settings > Display?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: I guess, its something like that
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: same place as brightness
[16:26] <thanmustoki> sage__: I just want to optimize my linux
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: not used Gnome for a while so I'm losing touch of exactly where junk is
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: have you tried nvidia-prime instead of bumblebee?
[16:26] <hdtune2k> no,
[16:27] <hdtune2k> what is that?sorry i am blue
[16:27] <sage__> thanmustoki: Looking at the kernel might be interesting, but you won't optimize it by any degree that is worth the time
[16:27] <daftykins> hdtune2k: look it up
[16:27] <hdtune2k> i am not very familar with linux
[16:27] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, There is an option to disable that, where brightness exist as you said, but it cannot be done, you cannot modify that
[16:27] <hdtune2k> ok thanks , let me search on the web
[16:28] <hdtune2k> Thanks ActionParsnip and daftykins
[16:28] <hdtune2k> and sorry about the ignoring of your replys!
[16:29] <thanmustoki> sage__: is it take long time? and difficult? wht's difference between installing/upgrading new kernel?
[16:31] <sage__> thanmustoki: The kernel used by Ubuntu has already been customized for Ubuntu. It requires an immense amount of knowledge to compile a kernel that will function beyond what the default provides.
[16:31]  * AlonzoTG huggs his gentoo and it's unmolested kernel.
[16:32] <hdtune2k> :q
[16:33] <Toadstool2> weechat lol
[16:34] <AlonzoTG> so basically the stock kernel was too well engineered so it was necessary to unleash a horde of flatheads on it to add a bunch of bugs and missfeatures.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> AlonzoTG: how do you figure that?
[16:35] <daftykins> this is not the place for your personal insights.
[16:35] <fartface> Are there any decent epub readers available for *buntu that would be comparable to Adobe Digital Editions?  I've tried FBReader, it's...not very intuitive.
[16:36] <badawi-fils> salu
[16:36] <sage__> you can read from the browser using amazon kindle cloud reader
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> fartface: calibre
[16:36] <badawi-fils> salu je suis un news user et je voudrais apprendre les libres
[16:37] <theadmin> !fr | badawi-fils
[16:37] <sage__> firefox also has an addon called EpubReader
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[16:37] <minus1999> I have a question concerning a samba setup that Ive done for my home. I added two unix user, then added them as samba users  and a directory for the first user was created and is accessable. A directory for the second user was never created. I created the directory for such user but I cant see it on a windows machine. Anyone have an  idea why?
[16:37] <theadmin> fartface: Doesn't Evince (the default Ubuntu document reader) handle epub?
[16:37] <fartface> Action: I've used calibre in the past as well, it's good for conversions, but the reader itself isn't too great.  Specifically looking for one that can handle annotations.  I might end up having to use Calibre as I'm pretty sure it'll be the only one that'll handle annotations.
[16:38] <fartface> theadmin:  Evince wasn't on my install, I'll give it a shot one sec
[16:38] <sakamop> fartface: calibre, or you can run something like Foxit under wine
[16:38] <sakamop> fartface: evince is, it's the defautl reader
[16:38] <fartface> sakamop: foxit does epub?
[16:38] <minus1999> Im using the latest ubunu server os
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: did you use smbpasswd -a username   to set the password for the username?
[16:39] <fartface> theadmin: Doesn't look like Evince handles epub
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: are the clients going to be linux based too?
[16:39] <minus1999> yes
[16:39] <sakamop> fartface: dunno about the free one, but they have a reader
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: no windows?
[16:39] <minus1999> windows and mac os x
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: oic
[16:40] <fartface> Though on that note, does anyone know how to have document location persistence with Evince?  Like if I open a PDF, and close it, and then reopen the PDF, it'll be in the same location as when I closed it?
[16:40] <theadmin> fartface: Sorry, I must have confused formats
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: windows is holding you back here :(
[16:40] <fartface> theadmin: No worries, I appreciate the help :)
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: is the 2nd folder defined in /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[16:40] <minus1999> the only differnce i can think of is that i added a -m when i added the first user
[16:41] <minus1999> neither of the folders are in the smb.conf
[16:41] <TJ-> Bobbo_: The UEFI bootable image will be very small; probably around 2MB
[16:41] <sakamop> fartface: evince does that with pdf, but i've not tried epub
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: then how did you make the shares?
[16:41] <daftykins> minus1999: you should be mounting samba shares manually, not relying upon GUIs to 'see' shares
[16:41] <Bobbo_> oh wow
[16:42] <minus1999> Im not sure. The first one was share from the start
[16:42] <minus1999> the second one...
[16:42] <minus1999> well i had to manually create the directory
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: if you want to add folders you need to define them in smb.conf and they will be presented when the server is scanned for shares
[16:43] <minus1999> Ah. Ill add them manually then.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: plase note, trying to get samba to play nice with NTFS is a pain
[16:44] <fartface> sakamop: Was it a setting?  Because it's definitely not behaving like that by default for me.
[16:45] <minus1999> is there a better way to work with windows, file sharing wise?
[16:45] <minus1999> then samba?
[16:45] <daftykins> no
[16:45] <daftykins> depends what you're really doing with the file sharing
[16:45] <daftykins> whether it's regular or not
[16:46] <tongl> Hello, can anyonse help me installing ubuntu??
[16:46] <minus1999> im just wanting to use it as a fileserver for my home
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> tongl: wassup?
[16:46] <minus1999> for both mac and window
[16:47] <sakamop> fartface: Unsure, let me look.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: if you want multiple folders showing when you search the server, you will need to define them in smb.conf and restart the smbd service
[16:47] <tongl> Ive been trying to install it in 1 pc & 1 laptop but same error apeared
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> tongl: what error?
[16:48] <sakamop> fartface: I open a pdf by double-click, go to page 11, close evince. double click pdf again, it comes back on that page. As I said, it does it with PDF but I haven't tried epub.
[16:49] <fartface> sakamop: hmm, strange it's not working for me.  I don't think it can open epub at all.  I'll take a look around the settings
[16:49] <tongl> It starts normally and it shows me optuons : language, try ubuntu, install ubuntu
[16:49] <tongl> It is 8.04
[16:49] <fartface> sakamop: Or maybe I'm just... slow, because I just tried it again and it worked.
[16:50] <fartface> Durrr
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tongl: Hardy is not supported in ANY way.
[16:50] <tongl> What's hardy?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tongl: please grab the ISO for Trusty (Ubuntu 14.04) and install that. Trusty is LTS and supported til April 2019
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tongl: Hardy is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04
[16:50] <tongl> K
[16:50] <TJ-> tongl: 6 years old? I'm surprised the media hasn't started to bit-rot already :)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> 8.04, sorry
[16:50] <tongl> I have 14.04 on Usb
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> tongl: use that it is supported
[16:51] <AlonzoTG> I've seen 10+ year old media work.
[16:51] <AlonzoTG> heck, I even pulled some files off of 23 year old floppies.
[16:51] <TJ-> AlonzoTG: Same here; you maybe missed the subtle irony
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> AlonzoTG: magnetic media is more resiliant than optical
[16:52] <tongl> Wait a min going to translater.. -.- (spanish)
[16:53] <sara_e2> hi
[16:53] <daftykins> hello. please ask your question if you have one.
[16:53] <genii> !hardy
[16:53] <genii> ActionParsnip: 8.04, not 9.04 ;)
[16:54] <sara_e2> when connect to my ubuntu machine using ssh and I login I get the kernel version and hostname how can I delete thati information? I delete the motd but I still get the kernel version
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> genii: yea, was corrected 2 lines later :D
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> genii: 9.04 was awful
[16:54] <genii> Yes, i agree
[16:55] <minus1999> Ive made a folder to be shared using samba, in the smb.conf file i put public = yes, writable = yes, but it still says i need to be a valid user. can i put valid users = all?
[16:55] <tongl> Guys with usb ubuntu starts: Ubuntu and 5 points above
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: list the users you want to be valid for the share
[16:55] <tongl> But nothing more happens
[16:56] <daftykins> !pastebin | minus1999
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> tongl: what GPU do you use?
[16:56] <daftykins> minus1999: share the file, not a tedious explanation please
[16:56] <tongl> Whats gpu?
[16:56] <minus1999> its on a different machine
[16:56] <tongl> Computer?
[16:56] <minus1999> how can i do that using the cli
[16:57] <arun_>  hi guys, I have a Samsung S II and its stuck at the bootloader I only have the CWM Recover Mode, There is an error after I install Ubuntu Touch on it, there is black screen, looks like the phone gets shutdown while booting to ubuntu and I get an error in the recovery mode, Can't Open /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> tongl: your video chip?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tongl: the video card
[16:58] <arun_> checking for autodeploy.zip autodeploy.zip not found
[16:58] <tongl> Is that info on bios??
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tongl: does the system have a make and model?
[16:58] <sara_e2> Hi, when connect to my ubuntu machine using ssh and I login I get the kernel version and hostname how can I delete thati information? I delete the motd but I still get the kernel  version
[16:58] <tongl> I can tell you bios info
[16:59] <YokoBr> hey guys, which one is the best "open source cpanel" with reseller, clients, billing support?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> sara_e2: I believe its the motd in SSH
[16:59] <sara_e2> ActionParsnip: but I change the option to not show it
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> tongl: is the system a Dell?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> sara_e2: yes
[17:00] <rberg_> sara_e2: look into /etc/update-motd.d/00-header
[17:00] <sara_e2> PrintMotd no
[17:00] <tongl> Wait a min pls
[17:00] <sara_e2> rberg_: let me see
[17:00] <minus1999> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8320370/
[17:00] <bfisher-fleig> I'm looking to setup a home vpn. Will ubuntu 14.04 server stay running 24/7 (barring crashes) or will it suspend itself periodic?
[17:00] <sara_e2> rberg_: It doesn't exist that file
[17:00] <sara_e2> it's really weird
[17:01] <daftykins> minus1999: you have a semi-colon ; in your second path
[17:01] <minus1999> there is a typo that isnt in the smb.conf  ';'
[17:01] <minus1999> thats not there
[17:02] <arun_>  hi guys, I have a Samsung S II and its stuck at the bootloader I only have the CWM Recover Mode, There is an error after I install Ubuntu Touch on it, there is black screen, looks like the phone gets shutdown while booting to ubuntu and I get an error in the recovery mode, Can't Open /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command
[17:02] <daftykins> !touch | arun_
[17:03] <daftykins> minus1999: sadly i can't get at my example config right now, but you have passwords configured so there's no need to enable public access
[17:03] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Ready? :P
[17:05] <TJ-> Bobbo_: not yet; more testing and I have to make dinner yet :)
[17:05] <Bobbo_> Okay.
[17:06] <minus1999> whenever i try to create a new folder via windows machine it says forlder access denied, You need permission to perform this action
[17:08] <daftykins> minus1999: you must be authenticated as the wrong user to the /home/hopeforthree/ user path
[17:08] <tongl> You know what is creature feel??
[17:09] <tongl> Bios version 4coredual-VSTA BIOS P1
[17:10] <optraz> this is a general question, what are option you can do when you have a lot of emails in evolution mailclient other than delete them?
[17:10] <tongl> Its not a dell
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> tongl: then what is it?
[17:11] <tongl> Actionparsnip
[17:11] <tongl> Idk
[17:11] <tongl> It jasmt any logo
[17:11] <tongl> Hasnt*
[17:12] <minus1999> daftykins: Ah. So the machine thats view/accessing the file needs to have the same user name as the username i created in ubutu?
[17:12] <tongl> It may be creature feel but idk this name
[17:12] <daftykins> minus1999: well, what i do is have the same user+pass on the ubuntu server as the Windows box so that they auth automatically
[17:13] <daftykins> tongl: you are not making sense in english, what language do you speak?
[17:13] <squinty> tongl:  if you install  inxi   it will give you lots of information pertaining to your system including graphics, wireless, motherboard etc
[17:13] <minus1999> Ah. I see. I thought something else
[17:13] <tongl> Spanish
[17:14] <daftykins> !es | tongl
[17:14] <tongl> Ty
[17:24] <rangeles2276> How can I reset the display setting on Ubuntu 14.04 using the Nouveau Driver?
[17:24] <optraz> this is a general question, what are option you can do when you have a lot of emails in evolution mailclient other than delete them?
[17:25] <rangeles2276> I have tried doing the failsafe reset from the recovery but nothing seems to work
[17:26] <rangeles2276> this happened after I removed the proprietary Nvida Driver since for some odd reason it wont work with my 27" Dual Link DVI display
[17:27] <rangeles2276> and now all I get is a 800x600 resolution and I can't fix it
[17:27] <rangeles2276> I've been at this since 10am, can someone please help
[17:27] <eeee> which driver were you using?
[17:28] <rangeles2276> right now I'm using the default that comes with 14.04 Nouveau
[17:28] <rangeles2276> I completely purge the Nvidia drivers
[17:29] <squinty> optraz:  https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution     Online Support   First consult the Evolution Manual.
[17:29] <rangeles2276> @c107 the default driver is install down but I can't get the highest resolution for my display
[17:30] <squinty> rangeles2276:  check to see if xorg.conf is present on system.   rename it (or delete it)
[17:30] <eeee> rangeles2276: when you type xrandr what resolutions do you get
[17:30] <c107> rangeles2276: I use Trisquel GNU+Linux.  My IRC package is programmed to join #ubuntu by default...
[17:30] <eeee> i think you should install nvidia-current
[17:31] <rangeles2276> @c107 I removed it already but nothing, is like the system won't recognize the new driver
[17:31] <rangeles2276> I can't install nvidia-current because I have a Dual Link DVI display and it won't work
[17:32] <Marsoupial> I need help using insmod to load a driver without rebooting. Anyone know how?
[17:32] <rangeles2276> I already tried everything possible when it comes to Nvidia so I gave up. Ubuntu does not support the DualLink DVI hardware for some weird reason
[17:33] <rangeles2276> well it sort of supports it but not with the Nvidia drivers
[17:33] <apathy> alternate v10 ubuntu is great for nvidia
[17:33] <rangeles2276> @apathy never heard of it
[17:34] <apathy> ISo
[17:35] <rangeles2276> @apathy @c107 at this point I just want to revert to the OS default so I can get my 2560x1440 resolution which I had before I installed the Nvidia drivers
[17:35] <rangeles2276> @c107 it seems like the xorg.conf file is cache somewhere in the system or something
[17:36] <rangeles2276> @c107 I looked in the /etc/X11/ for the xorg.conf file and is not there]
[17:36] <unopaste> rangeles2276: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
[17:36] <squinty> sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf
[17:37] <rangeles2276> @squinty running command now
[17:39] <rangeles2276> @squinty ok I got a bunch of files back but none are the xorg.conf which is good news right
[17:40] <squinty> rangeles2276:  should be afaik....
[17:40] <rangeles2276> @c107 @squinty ok I'm going to try and reboot, thanks for the help
[17:44] <rangeles2276> @c107 @squinty No dice guys, still on 800x600
[17:45] <rangeles2276> @squinty No dice guys, still on 800x600
[17:47] <rangeles2276> squinty I also tried reinstalling the xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-nouveau
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: could blacklist the nvidia driver to help stop it loading....
[17:48] <rangeles2276> @ActionParsnip but I have removed and purged the nvidia drivers from my system
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: if yu drop the '@' symbol, it will highlight users.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: see how this isnt highlghting
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> @rangeles2276: see how this isnt highlghting
[17:49] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip right, sorry
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> !away > pumbaway
[17:50] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip ok so right now the noveau driver is installed but is my resolution that wont go higher than 800x600
[17:50] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip my IPS display goes up to 2560x1440
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: have a read of /var/log/Xorg.0.log   may give clues
[17:52] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip not sure what this means "No input driver specified, ignoring this device."
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: time to find out.......
[17:54] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip there is nothing in it about the display driver, that last comment was for an input device(Wacom Tablet)
[17:55] <fabio_> ciao
[17:57] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip hey take a look at this http://pastebin.com/EFep7Hun
[17:58] <rangeles2276> c107 take a look at this http://pastebin.com/EFep7Hun
[17:58] <rangeles2276> squinty take a look at this http://pastebin.com/EFep7Hun
[17:59] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip it looks like something got messed up when I removed the Nvidia drivers, looks like is using something called FBDEV
[17:59] <arun_> hello guys, why doesn't my phone show in lsusb ?
[18:00] <daftykins> arun_: i told you earlier that the channel for touch is #ubuntu-touch
[18:00] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip there has to be a way to reset the display drivers back to the original out the box config
[18:02] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip I have also tried to google this but I get nothing that can help fix this
[18:03] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip if I reinstall the OS will it wipe out my apps that are install in /Opt
[18:05] <hashken> I'm trying to setup a 3 node network (A, B, C) with links A-B and B-C and B acting as the router between A and C
[18:05] <hashken> IP forwarding is enabled in B and the appropriate addresses have been setup in the respective interfaces
[18:06] <hashken> Let's say eth0 of A is connected to eth0 of B and eth1 of B to eth1 of C
[18:06] <hashken> The subnet in A-B is <IP_ADDRESS>/24 and that in B-C is <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[18:07] <hashken> To ensure that A sends packets meant for C through B, I setup the following route in A
[18:07] <hashken> ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[18:07] <hashken> And in C, I added
[18:07] <hashken> ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth1
[18:08] <hashken> But, I'm still not able to ping A from C
[18:08] <hashken> What could be the reason??
[18:18] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip oh I found something weird. This "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe" is wrong
[18:18] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip it could be that I have the wrong driver installed, how can I tell?
[18:22] <mint-88899> hi,i am  chinese man.
[18:25] <ckindley> Hi folks. How can I make lightdm _never_ remember the last-used username?
[18:35] <Baako> w
[18:35] <iampaul83> any reason why a program would not start in boot up. This is a customer application that we developed.  If i a a do /etc/init.d/program start it works i did the update-rc.d program and set the start and stop defaults
[18:36] <Baako> hi guys. when i start up ubuntu. it takes about 2 mins for the keyboard and mouse to stop working and sometimes when i log in after awhile the keyboard and mouse dont work again
[18:36] <Baako> why is that and how can i solve it?
[18:37] <mjrosenb> Baako: is the whole system frozen?
[18:38] <Baako> mjrosenb yes
[18:39] <mjrosenb> Baako: so you can't ssh into the machine from another computer?
[18:39] <Baako> mjrosenb who said something about ssh?
[18:40] <mjrosenb> Baako: I did.
[18:41] <Baako> mjrosenbi dont know about ssh sorry
[18:42] <FunkyELF> hey guys... wondering what is more stable (or supposed to be anyway) Chrome Beta or Chrome Dev?  I want to try to watch Netflix and this thing says I need either Beta or Dev
[18:42] <FunkyELF> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[18:42] <brontos> Hey all, do you know of a good program that will take a directory full of mp3s and identify them, rename them, and correct/insert meta data of the song they are that runs on linux?
[18:44] <mjrosenb> brontos: I've used eastag in the past.
[18:44] <brontos> mjrosenb, thanks!  I will check it out!
[18:47] <Baako> what does this command do sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:47] <aamon> it updates your system
[18:47] <jpds> Baako: upgrades your system.
[18:47] <Baako> how do i update every applications?
[18:48] <Baako> and dependencies?
[18:48] <Pici> Baako: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:48] <jpds> Baako: Just like that.
[18:49] <Baako> Pici The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[18:49] <Baako>   bbswitch-dkms dkms java-wrappers lib32gcc1 libc6-i386 libcommons-cli-java
[18:49] <Baako>   libcommons-lang-java libcortado-java libcuda1-331 libmiglayout-java
[18:49] <Baako>   libvdpau1 linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic screen-resolution-extra
[18:50] <jpds> Baako: Right, read the bit under that.
[18:51] <mdev> how to tell if server is stuck or doing something
[18:51] <jpds> mdev: Does it respond to ping?
[18:51] <mdev> tried installing java been stuck on "preparing" to unpack like 15 minutes
[18:51] <mdev> 21:44   5.19s
[18:51] <mdev> the first is idle time, second is cpu time
[18:52] <mdev> connect via another instance and see it in w
[18:52] <Guest33850> hi
[18:52] <Baako> i did sudo apt-get update
[18:52] <Baako> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:53] <k1l> Baako: comment the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:54] <Baako> k1l comment which line?
[18:54] <DanDare> Hello. Whats the final disk space usage after installing Ubuntu with default params?
[18:55] <k1l> Baako: the lines that direct to the cdrom
[18:55] <Baako> k1l u mean this line deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted
[18:55] <k1l> DanDare: something around 4-6 GB iirc
[18:55] <k1l> Baako: yes
[18:56] <DanDare> k1l, nice. Thank you
[18:56] <Baako> k1l why should i comment it please?
[18:56] <k1l> Baako: because of that: <Baako> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:56] <k1l> Baako: if there is no "#" in front it will search for the ubuntu cd in the cdrom.
[18:59] <hkker> hello, i have this weird problem. i created a wifi hotspot with my android device and windows machines can detect and connect to it. ubuntu however can't even find it. i have tried the hidden network and iwlist scan command but nothing is found. also googling finds me loads of threads about troubleshooting ubuntu created hotspots, but nothing on android.
[18:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how do you do a timed screenshot?
[18:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ie, screenshot the desktop in 5 seconds?
[18:59] <_breakdown> is there a way to hibernate in ubuntu ?
[19:00] <k1l> _breakdown: yes, choose that from the power off menue. but you need a /swap at least as big as your ram
[19:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nvm
[19:01] <Baako> has anyone found a way to play windows games on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:01] <loa> is there any way to change permanently window class name?
[19:01] <loa> for example class name of chromium browser?
[19:02] <k1l> !wine | Baako
[19:02] <_breakdown> kll : is there a command?
[19:02] <loa> i need this to be able to associate icons from unity launcher with application.
[19:02] <Baako> !wine k1l?
[19:02] <Baako> oh wine
[19:02] <Baako> thanks
[19:02] <k1l> !wine
[19:03] <k1l> ah, bot is gone
[19:03] <Baako> lol
[19:03] <Baako> playonline!
[19:03] <_breakdown> k1l : i can't find an option, is there a command ? i think i have enough swap space
[19:03] <k1l> _breakdown: what does "free -m" give you? please pastebin
[19:04] <kafee651> hi friend
[19:04] <k1l> _breakdown: see http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[19:04] <FunkyELF> anybody able to get Netflix working with the Chrome Beta release / user agent switcher?  Apparently you're able to do it now with HTML5 but I'm still getting an error
[19:05] <_breakdown> K1l : 3947 mb of swap space out of 3806 of memory
[19:09] <_breakdown> k1l : thanks!
[19:09] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Here's the recovery image build script for you to test. Image will be 64MB. After running the script, write the resulting image file to a USB flash device with "dd if=<filename> of=/dev/sdX bs=1M", then try booting with it. If you're lucky, you'll end up in the UEFI Tianocore v2 Shell. Start with "help". I'll be back a little later. http://iam.tj/projects/misc/uefi-build-rescue-image.sh
[19:12] <mattxtn> This may be a silly question but when I enable VT-x in bios to run VirtualBox do I get a grub menu on reboot? I can still boot right into xubuntu so it's not a big deal I'm just curious about it.
[19:14] <Bobbo_> TJ-: This script is trying to invoke dd for me? O_o
[19:14] <TJ-> Bobbo_: For creating the image itself, yes
[19:14] <Bobbo_> dd: invalid status flag: `none'
[19:15] <TJ-> Bobbo_: what version of Ubuntu is that on?
[19:15] <brontos> mjrosenb, Do you have a link you can share for eastag?
[19:15] <Bobbo_> Precise, I'm running it on my main computer. :3
[19:16] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Ahhh! You may need to run it from a UEFI installation or Live ISO booted in UEFI mode, so it can also install GRUB-EFI components
[19:16] <mjrosenb> brontos: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/EasyTAG
[19:16] <TJ-> Bobbo_: re-download it, I've removed that status=none option to dd
[19:17] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Hopefully you can make something of it until I come back - be about 30-45 mins
[19:19] <Beldar> mattxtn, tapping the shify key brings up the grub menu on single installs, should work in vbox.
[19:19] <mattxtn> Beldar I ment when I rebooted my computer not a vbox.
[19:20] <Beldar> mattxtn, shift is the key vbox or a regular install.
[19:21] <mattxtn> Beldar, oh I just found it weird because my grub is set to go right to xubuntu and I wasn't holding shift. Only happens when I enable the virtualization in bios.
[19:22] <Beldar> mattxtn, On single installs it does not show, you can set it to if needed.
[19:22] <mattxtn> Beldar, alright I'll tool around with it some. That is till my curiosity kills the cat.
[19:24] <minus1999> is shorewall a good firewall, or is there a better option?
[19:25] <ikonia> shorewall is dead
[19:26] <minus1999> Really? Im following a article on how to set up a web server.
[19:26] <ikonia> ....web server is not shorewall
[19:26] <rww> use ufw
[19:26] <minus1999> its from 2009... So what firewall would you recommend?
[19:27] <ikonia> shorewall is just iptables
[19:27] <ikonia> it's an interface to iptables
[19:27] <ikonia> use iptables, as rww the ufw is what ubuntu uses
[19:27] <minus1999> huh.
[19:28] <minus1999> Im going to assume ubutu server has a firewall already
[19:28] <minus1999> ... right?
[19:28] <ikonia> I've just said it....
[19:28] <compdoc> not enabled
[19:29] <ikonia> it's just a front end to iptables, ubuntu has the same concept, a front end to iptables called ufw
[19:29] <pellota> why do you need firewall?
[19:29] <Pici> It is enabled, it just doesn't have any rules.
[19:29] <compdoc> same smae
[19:29] <compdoc> same
[19:29] <minus1999> does anyone have a more recent article on using ubuntu as a webserver?
[19:29] <pellota> that would make you suspicius
[19:29] <ArronKader> :)
[19:29] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:30] <ikonia> there is pretty much offical docs on every ubuntu topic
[19:30] <Bobbo_> I use UFW on my vps, much easier than iptables.
[19:30] <minus1999> ok thanks
[19:30] <soee> how can i replace a bunch of files extension ?
[19:30] <Bobbo_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[19:31] <eeee> soee: man rename, or apt-get install pyrenamer
[19:31] <eeee> soee: actually what exactly do you want to do, you could do it with find and -exec mv
[19:31] <eeee> ?
[19:37] <internet_> how do I know if a ubuntu desktop dvd is 32 or 64 bits?
[19:37] <internet_> without having to boot it
[19:40] <Bobbo_> so many ping outs
[19:41] <pellota> its the botz
[19:42] <pellota> a friend of mine tells me you can DoS IRC using lots of bots loggin in and parting
[19:43] <Bobbo_> Well, yeah.
[19:43] <chili555> Maybe this is the start of the robotz taking over the world.
[19:43] <Bobbo_> =/
[19:44] <Bobbo_> gunna be choosing pills sooner or later.
[19:44] <ArronKader> better take them both ..
[19:45] <Bobbo_> That's when they realise what's going on, and add a purple one to fuck with your head.
[19:45] <Bobbo_> Wait... You can't get purple tictacs, can you?
[19:47] <Baako> hi guys my mouse aint moving
[19:48] <Baako> the keyboard is working but the mouse as freezw
[19:48] <Baako> please help
[19:48] <Baako> am using Roccat kova+
[19:52] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Um Either I done something wrong or it dun work.
[19:52] <Bobbo_> TJ-: I'm thinking cut losses and go CSM.
[19:53] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Hmmm, it is looking that way. Time to ask Toshiba to give your money back too!
[19:53] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Not my laptop, borrowing it from a friend for uni, lol.
[19:53] <eeee> Bobbo_: if you can get a recovery usb
[19:54] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Not an auspicous start!
[19:54] <eeee> you can restore windows in a few mins
[19:54] <Bobbo_> eeee: I don't have any USB thingy big enough. My USB flash drives are really freaking weird (they have two physical partitions) and the laptop will only check the first (annoyingly smaller one).
[19:54] <Bobbo_> I've been installing ubuntu from an SD card in a usb sd card reader.
[19:55] <TJ-> eeee: The issue is, the firmware won't accept/keep the non-Windows entry. The recovery of Windows Recovery was simply to be able to install updated firmware in case that solves the issue :) Maybe not worth it!
[19:55] <eeee> Bobbo_: idea
[19:55] <eeee> Bobbo_: why don't you use vm, and use a raw disk image
[19:55] <Bobbo_> eeee: wat?
[19:55] <eeee> with the iso loaded you could modify the hdd
[19:55] <eeee> TJ-: would this work?
[19:56] <TJ-> eeee: I'm a bit lost as to what you're suggesting... expand please?
[19:56] <Bobbo_> Unless... Running the bios thing in wine ain't gunna work is it? :P
[19:57] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I tested the bootable UEFI image built by my script in a Virtual Machine here, and it works as expected
[19:57] <TJ-> Bobbo_: No - the Flash update tools need Windows device drivers
[19:57] <eeee> Bobbo_: TJ- virtualbox can modify the hard disk with full access to it, using a raw disk image file
[19:57] <eeee> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[19:58] <eeee> if he loads the iso in the vm, and uses the raw disk image file as the hdd, then he could use diskpart and dism to extract the image to the hdd
[19:58] <eeee> ( the recovery image )
[19:58] <TJ-> eeee: We don't want to modify the HDD, we want to re-flash updated firmware that just may fix the issue, but there's no changelog against the newer UEFI firmware releases for that Toshiba laptop, to indicate it would
[19:58] <Bobbo_> eeee: This laptop is fully enclosed like some ridiculous thing. To get the HDD out I'd need to pull it apart (and I would of put in the new HDD I bought if that weren't the case, avoiding basically all of these issues).
[19:59] <TJ-> eeee: Possibly yes, but I think Bobbo_ is trying to cut his lost time; a CSM install will work fine
[19:59] <Bobbo_> TJ-: I can just use the normal image and set the bios to csm boot for that, right?
[19:59] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Yes
[19:59] <eeee> Bobbo_: there,s no need to pull anything out, it's just a file you create in the terminal, and you select it in virtualbox
[20:00] <Bobbo_> eeee: On my desktop? O_o
[20:00] <eeee> what do you mean?
[20:00] <Bobbo_> Where am I suppose to run this vm?
[20:01] <eeee> liveusb
[20:01] <RobertJDohnert> what are some peoples thoughts on Unity?
[20:01] <TJ-> Bobbo_: You could do it from the Live ISO - it is possible to create virtual machines and run them from that environment
[20:01] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: It's poopy, both of them. :P
[20:01] <Bobbo_> TJ-: oh.
[20:03] <RobertJDohnert> Bobbo what do you use?
[20:03] <TJ-> Bobbo_: So you'd do PC > boot USB > Try Ubuntu > Download Windows Recovery ISO Image > "apt-get install virt-manager" > create VM with Windows Recovery ISO image > Attach PC's HDD as a raw device to VM > Start VM > boot from CDROM > do recovery
[20:03] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: I'm on Gnome2, admittedly. But I'm still using Precise.
[20:04] <RobertJDohnert> Ahhh OK
[20:04] <eeee> TJ-: he wouldn't download the recovery iso file, he says he has an iso of win7 but no way to boot it
[20:04] <RobertJDohnert> So you planning to move to Mate?
[20:04] <innocent95> Hi
[20:04] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Why would I?
[20:04] <innocent95> I can see my usb drive in lsusb, but can't mount it
[20:04] <innocent95> what to do?
[20:05] <Bobbo_> eeee: Because I don't have anything big enough to put it on.
[20:05] <RobertJDohnert> Well why would you not?
[20:05] <RobertJDohnert> If thats the approach you like
[20:05] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Laziness and I'm happy as it is?
[20:05] <innocent95> anybody have an idea?
[20:05] <RobertJDohnert> So you plan to stay with precise until precise is dead
[20:05] <eeee> Bobbo_: i know, i'm just explaining that you wouldn't have to buy a recovery iso
[20:06] <squinty> innocent95:  look in menu for Disks
[20:06] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Um, what, I thought you were takling about gnome?
[20:06] <innocent95> squinty, What menu, I'm on xubuntu
[20:06] <ArronKader> fdisk -l
[20:06] <innocent95> ok
[20:06] <innocent95> ArronKader, Nothing
[20:06] <rberg_> innocent95: does 'blkid' report any partition or filesystem?
[20:07] <RobertJDohnert> I was asking what you guys thought of Unity and if you didnt like Unity which desktop system do you prefer
[20:07] <innocent95> rberg_, No partitions are there
[20:07] <innocent95> But i do have partitions in the internal HD
[20:07] <rberg_> any file system reported?
[20:08] <RobertJDohnert> But when Precise dies you will have to move to something so what will you move too?
[20:08] <eeee> RobertJDohnert: trusty is the current release
[20:08] <baako> Hello guys
[20:08] <innocent95> rberg_, It was FAT32
[20:08] <baako> my mouse pointer is missing
[20:08] <baako> please help
[20:08] <RobertJDohnert> I know that Bobbo said he was still on precise
[20:08] <eeee> baako: try to restart
[20:08] <baako> i have eeee
[20:08] <TJ-> baako: One of my Huskies probably ate it :p
[20:09] <RobertJDohnert> so Im asking him when Precise dies what will he move too
[20:09] <RobertJDohnert> Im just curious
[20:09] <squinty> innocent95:  look in settings > removable drives and media    make sure things are toggled on correctly
[20:09] <RobertJDohnert> since he said Unity was crap
[20:09] <innocent95> rberg_, I was trying to change its filesystem to NTFS, i lost it when i unmounted it
[20:09] <gino39> * abc_harold1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>è entrato in #ubuntu
[20:09] <baako> last time the mouse freeze i reboot and not it disappeared
[20:09] <gino39> http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[20:10] <EiriksUbuntu> eeee when you guys told me to get trusty going I thought it was going to be like going from 10.04 to 11.04 (messy) but it as a breeze
[20:10] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Not when it dies, just when I get around to backing up stuff so that if running do-release-upgrade breaks my system I won't be screwed.  Gnome still?
[20:11] <baako> :D
[20:11] <RobertJDohnert> Ok thats what I was asking LOL
[20:11] <innocent95> squinty, How do i know, some options are toggled some are not
[20:11] <adac> how can i create a public/private keypar with ssh-keygen so at the pub key file I have a custom identifier instead of the standarad host name?
[20:12] <baako> r1l u r here bro
[20:13] <squinty> innocent95:  personally I think the options under Storage are pretty self explanatory  :)
[20:13] <innocent95> squinty, Yes i see ...
[20:14] <gino39> :http://www.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <gino39> http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[20:15] <gino39> ciao
[20:15] <innocent95> squinty, Everything is fine
[20:15] <DJones> gino39: Do you have an Ubuntu support issue? Just posting random links doesn't help anybody
[20:15] <innocent95> squinty, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table, i got this in the fdisk -l
[20:16] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> hey
[20:17] <squinty> innocent95:  probably need to reformat it then
[20:17] <gino39>  #sdx-developers  9       Welcome to SDX-Developers
[20:17] <gino39>  #daedalusx64     3       Daedalusx64 a N64 emulator for PSP | ヘ(゜Д、゜)ノ
[20:17] <gino39>  #Piraten-Recklinghausen 2
[20:17] <gino39>  #wikipedia-ja-abusefilter 2
[20:17] <gino39>  #linuxchile      5       Comunidad Chilena de Linux // Falta Poco ;)
[20:17] <gino39>  #puias           2       PUIAS Linux: http://puias.math.ias.edu/
[20:17] <unopaste> gino39 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:17] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> comcast noob
[20:18] <innocent95> squinty, lets see
[20:18] <john38> Can somebody tell me how to flash player in google chrome for Precise pangolin
[20:18] <john38> Can somebody tell me how to  enable flash player in google chrome for Precise pangolin
[20:19] <squinty> innocent95:  might want to consider installing    gnome-disk-utility  (or see if similar package for xubuntu).   can format and un/mount and check the specs for removable media with it.
[20:19] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> whats up john38
[20:20] <innocent95> squinty, Gparted?
[20:20] <john38> XxxMossyHacksxxX, do you know how to enable flash player for google chrome in precise
[20:20] <john38> XxxMossyHacksxxX, can it be done?
[20:20] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> No sorry dude
[20:20] <squinty> innocent95:  well you can use that too
[20:20] <eeee> !flash | john38
[20:21] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> Have you tryed the thing called google
[20:21] <squinty> john38:  iirc, google chrome already comes with pepper flash (maybe mistaken though)   are you asking about chrome or chromium?
[20:22] <john38> squinty, i guess chromium
[20:23] <RobertJDohnert> john38
[20:23] <squinty> john38:   google for pepper flash and "google chrome".  there is some method of pulling pepper flash from chrome to use with chromium etc
[20:23] <john38> squinty, i've installed pepper flash plugin nonfree but i still cant watch any pages with that require flash
[20:23] <RobertJDohnert> Google cut support for NPAPI plugins from Chrome and Chroium
[20:24] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> Who all is using blackbuntu
[20:24] <arthurfiggis> Google Chrome (the closed-source version you download from their website) actually has flash integrated, you don't need to install it separately :)
[20:24] <arthurfiggis> if you're using chromium i'm not sure what you would have to do
[20:24] <john38> arthurfiggis, so just download google chrome for ubuntu?
[20:24] <squinty> XxxMossyHacksxxX:  taking a survey?  not really on topic for this channel   :P
[20:25] <rberg_> the sooner we can be done with flash videos the better for everyone
[20:25] <arthurfiggis> john38: that's what i did...they have an ubuntu package that you can download, that adds  a repository that keeps it updated :)
[20:25] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> :D okay
[20:26] <john38> arthurfiggis, i switched from firefox because adoble stopped support for flash then i switched to chromium becuase its stable but now i cant watch flash plugins players
[20:26] <drox> i have a problem whit Spyder2
[20:26] <Bobbo_> eeee / TJ- : Is there any point in me keeping this windows recovery partition around or should I just remove it?
[20:27] <arthurfiggis> john38: there should be a link for a .deb file for chrome there, and then from a console you can just sudo dpkg -i install ./filename.deb in the usual way...hmm, the plugin for firefox seems to still be updated as far as i know? but if you want to make sure you're up to date and you don't mind using the closed-source version of the browser, chrome works great
[20:27] <squinty> Bobbo_:  if you have no need to reinstall windows (or have separte install disks) then there is no need to keep it
[20:27] <arthurfiggis> i use firefox and the official flash plugin, that seems to be updated and i haven't had a site not work :) but
[20:27] <john38> arthurfiggis, im installing chrome now.....
[20:27] <Bobbo_> I was just wondering if they tell me there's some fancy thing I could try if /this/ fails.
[20:28] <squinty> arthurfiggis:  same here.
[20:28] <arthurfiggis> john38: great...it should create an icon and all so depending on what you're using it'll be in the menu there somewhere
[20:28] <squinty> biab....
[20:29] <baako> please help invisible mouse ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[20:29] <john38> arthurfiggis, how do i export bookmarks on chromium again
[20:30] <arthurfiggis> squinty: the only thing i use flash for any more is youtube...it's kind of like java, the relevance of it (in my own case, not everyone's!) has gotten very, very low :) if everything on youtube was available in html5 compatible video i'd just not bother with flash
[20:30] <arthurfiggis> john38: ah...to be honest i'm really not sure, sorry, i've never used chromium :( someone else here might have though...or there might be a channel for it here?
[20:30] <john38> arthurfiggis, ok thanks arthur
[20:30] <qwerty> hi
[20:31] <Guest95976> help me
[20:31] <arthurfiggis> john38: no problem :) hopefully someone more familiar with chromium will be around
[20:32] <DJones> Guest95976: Until you explain your Ubuntu issue in the channel, we can't help you
[20:33] <Guest95976> help me
[20:34] <rww> Guest95976: probably best to ask your actual question and see if anyone answers
[20:34] <EiriksUbuntu> how do I show hidden files in terminal
[20:34] <Bobbo_> EiriksUbuntu: ls -a
[20:34] <malkauns> EiriksUbuntu: ls -la
[20:34] <mattxtn> EiriksUbuntu, ls -al
[20:34] <malkauns> lol
[20:34] <mattxtn> :D
[20:35] <Guest95976> I just launched the linux live i found lubuntu lxle
[20:35] <Guest95976> malfunction
[20:35] <EiriksUbuntu> rofl I really need to learn these commands, where is the best place I can d/l something like that?
[20:36] <Bobbo_> EiriksUbuntu: http://ss64.com/bash/
[20:38] <Bobbo_> EiriksUbuntu: or man pages.
[20:38] <Dr_Dan> Q:  are there any tweaks for getting ubuntu 14 to run faster on older asus netbooks?   Btw,  is anyone making a distro for asus netbook anymore?
[20:38] <Bobbo_> Dr_Dan: use a lightweight desktop environment.
[20:39] <Dr_Dan> Like xcfe\
[20:39] <baako> hi guys
[20:40] <Dr_Dan> That  \  should be a  ?
[20:40] <baako> my mouse aint showing i have reboot 9 times
[20:40] <baako> and still mouse aint showing
[20:41] <Dr_Dan> Is it wireless?
[20:42] <genii> baako: What kind of mouse? USB, Bluetooth, serial?
[20:42] <Dr_Dan> Baako:  or wireless?
[20:42] <baako> usb mouse
[20:42] <baako> its a roccat kova+
[20:43] <baako> oh its working now
[20:43] <genii> Hm.
[20:44] <baako> why aint steam working anymore?
[20:45] <Nitrophysix> Can anyone help me regarding a DNS issue and a domain name?
[20:47] <Dr_Dan> Nitrophysix: whats the question
[20:49] <marabu> ciaooo
[20:49] <marabu> msg FuSiOn|MuSiC|AsTrA|09 xdcc send #65
[20:49]  * rww facepalms
[20:50] <Nitrophysix> Hi, Basicly, Ive pointed my domain to my linix server using custom dns records with namecheap, but it doesnt seem to be working
[20:50] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: what domain?
[20:50] <Nitrophysix> penguinmedia.co.uk
[20:50] <Nitrophysix> Ive setup bind9 as the dns server, apache as the webserver
[20:51] <Nitrophysix> for the first time in my life i feel useless :P
[20:51] <Nitrophysix> Im a bit rusty with linux its been a while
[20:51] <Nitrophysix> Thanks in advance.
[20:51] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: firewall blocking port 53 UDP inbound?
[20:51] <genii> What do your zone files look like?
[20:51] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> Give me a second, I don't think iptables is installed by default...
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> I'm pretty sure there is no firewall installed
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> Ill pastebin
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> give me a sec
[20:53] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: did you have the domain's DNS server(s) added to the registry?
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> http://pastebin.com/78ud68yb
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> thats my zone file
[20:53] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Your bind server isn't responding.
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> http://pastebin.com/LmwBdz2w
[20:53] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: "dig +short -t SOA  penguinmedia.co.uk @ns1.penguinmedia.co.uk" => "dig: couldn't get address for 'ns1.penguinmedia.co.uk': not found"
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> Hmmm..
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> Ohh
[20:54] <Nitrophysix> I managed to get this working on a windows server, but moved over the linux for the speed
[20:54] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: Is bind even listening on port 53?
[20:54] <Nitrophysix> Yes
[20:54] <jwr__> is there any tool that will let me scan a server and see if any of my installed packages have known vulnerabilities?
[20:55] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Your webserver appears to work though.
[20:55] <Nitrophysix> Yh, webserver is on... :)
[20:55] <Nitrophysix> give me a sec
[20:55] <busch> I am on 12.04 right now and want to upgrade to the latest LTS. I edited the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and changed Prompt to lts. When i enter "do-release-upgrade -c": No new release found
[20:55] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: "sudo netstat -nlup | grep 53"
[20:56] <gsvitron> anyone else having issues getting flashplayer to work? have a shitload of homework and cant do it without flash
[20:56] <Nitrophysix> Definatly listening to port 53
[20:56] <ikonia> gsvitron: tone down the language
[20:56] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Even if it were responding, you don't have any entries.
[20:56] <busch> Whoops. Im on 12.10, not 12.04
[20:56] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: yr doin it rong.
[20:56] <ikonia> gsvitron: depending on flash on linux is a bad move,
[20:56] <mjrosenb> Nitrophysix: *definitely
[20:57] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Are you going to have multiple external addresses?
[20:57] <Nitrophysix> just penguinmedia.co.uk
[20:57] <gsvitron> well right now linux is my only option
[20:57] <Nitrophysix> I figured im doing it wrong, as said a little rusty :)
[20:57] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: It's not listening to 53 on  <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:57] <gsvitron> no alternative. so i need help getting it working if anyone can. it would be very appreciated
[20:58] <Nitrophysix> Possible firewall installed by default, let me search the system
[20:58] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Ok, you don't need a custom DNS then.
[20:58] <ikonia> gsvitron: what sites do you need to view ?
[20:58] <gsvitron> www.explorelearning.com
[20:58] <Nitrophysix> I want custom DNS address's :)
[20:58] <mjrosenb> gsvitron: how is it not working?
[20:58] <gsvitron> i need to access a gizmo
[20:58] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: All you need to do is use their nameservers, and add an A (and possibly MX) record for *.penguinmedia.co.uk at <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:59] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: No, you don't want custon DNS servers, that's overkill.
[20:59] <gsvitron> well in the software center i downloaded flash but every time I try and use something that requires it, it says plugin needed
[20:59] <gsvitron> ive tried firefox and chromium
[20:59] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: You only want that if you hvae multiple external IPs and multiple public hostnames.
[20:59] <Nitrophysix> Id still like to use custom DNS servers :)
[20:59] <ikonia> gsvitron: looking at that site I suspect you maybe out of luck
[20:59] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: They serve no purpose.
[20:59] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: nmap says: "53/udp    closed        domain"
[20:59] <ikonia> gsvitron: it looks like it needs flash player 12 or greater for the videos or "gizmos"
[21:00] <Nitrophysix> Thanks TJ, taking a look now :)
[21:00] <gsvitron> well, it would be nice to have flashplayer for other reasons as well
[21:00] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: nmap doesn't show it open either, and it doesn't respond to queries, and a blank zone file isn't going to respond anyway.
[21:00] <gsvitron> captchas dont load...neither does youtube
[21:00] <ikonia> gsvitron: depending flash on linux = failure
[21:00] <ikonia> gsvitron: flash on linux is dead,
[21:01] <ikonia> so even getting it working on 1 site, there will be 10 more that it won't work on
[21:01] <Nitrophysix> The zone file has penguinmedia.co.uk
[21:01] <genii> Nitrophysix: For line 6 I would put something more like:<PHONE_NUMBER>     instead of 2
[21:01] <Nitrophysix> ok no worries
[21:01] <Nitrophysix> Give me a sec, trying to keepup here and there :p
[21:01] <gsvitron> so basically I'm screwed?
[21:01] <genii> ( eg: the current year-month-day-latest change number )
[21:02] <drox> drox@DragonFly:~$ dispcal -v -q h -y l -G 2.4 SM245B
[21:02] <drox> Setting up the instrument
[21:02] <drox> dispcal: Error - new_disprd() failed with 'Instrument Access Failed (No PLD Pattern - have you run spyd2en ?)'
[21:02] <drox> WHY?
[21:02] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: THe purpose of DNS is to translate the human-readable name to the IP address.  You don't have any IP addresses in the zone file.
[21:02] <ikonia> gsvitron: depends on your perspective, but from my chair, trying to use flash on linux is a dead end,
[21:02] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: Are you sure the IP address of ns1. terminates on a Linux host? It looks suspiciously like a Windows host
[21:02] <stv> hi
[21:02] <jhutchins> TJ-: I got the Ubuntu default page for apache on port 80.
[21:02] <Nitrophysix> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:02] <gsvitron> well I've done it before. I used to have Ubuntu on my old laptop and there was never any issues
[21:02] <ikonia> why are you trying to run a dns server when you don't know what you're doing
[21:02] <Nitrophysix> is the server itself
[21:02] <ikonia> why not use your ISP's name servers
[21:03] <Nitrophysix> I will run whatever i like, when i like thank you.
[21:03] <jhutchins> ikonia: No, he needs to use the registrar's nameserver, with an A record for his web server and maybe an MX record.
[21:03] <busch> I am on 12.10 right now and want to upgrade to the latest LTS. I edited the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and changed Prompt to lts. When i enter "do-release-upgrade -c": No new release found
[21:03] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: I do this with about a dozen domains right now.
[21:03] <Nitrophysix> awsome :)
[21:03] <ikonia> jhutchins: then why are we looking at port 53 ??
[21:03] <ikonia> I don't understand why he's installed bind ?
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> any suggestions ikonia
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> ?
[21:04] <jhutchins> ikonia: Because he has misunderstood the process and believes he needs to run his own DNS, which really won't work the way he thinks it will.
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> It worked fine with Windows Server 2008
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> Ive oviously configured something incorrectly with linux.
[21:04] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Windows is broken.
[21:04] <ikonia> if you can't run dns infrastructure - don't do it
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> Please.
[21:04] <ikonia> trust people who do, eg: your isp
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> If you can shutup, do it.
[21:05] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: drop the attitude
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> You drop the attitude
[21:05] <ikonia> running insecure/miss-configured dns servers is a bad thing for the internet
[21:05]  * Pici sighs
[21:05] <ikonia> so if you really don't understand it, trying to actually run on is a bad move
[21:05] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: Have you actually checked by testing on localhost that bind is listening on port 53 and returning answers?
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> I don't care, Im still learning with linux.
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> You didnt learn from thin air did you?
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> Im running tests now to see if i can find the problem.
[21:06] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: how many name servers are you currenting running
[21:06] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: You're probably better off in #ubuntu-server for this kind of issue
[21:06] <ikonia> currently
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> 20,000
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> 12
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> 1
[21:06] <BerenBarahir> I can't install Google Chrome
[21:06] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: any chance of a serious answer please.
[21:07] <jhutchins> ikonia: He doesn't need to fix anything, he needs to do it right in the first place.
[21:07] <Nitrophysix> Yes, I bought a VPS with a dedicated IP
[21:07] <BerenBarahir> Is it possible to run Google Chrome with Kubuntu 14.04?
[21:07] <Nitrophysix> Im a php programmer building a few apps with require a bit of power, now I have windows server skills, but linux is a little rusty for me.
[21:07] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: how many name servers are you actually running for this domain ?
[21:07] <Nitrophysix> 1
[21:07] <BerenBarahir> I could not find Google Chrome in the Muon software Centre either
[21:08] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: a lot of registrars won't update the dns records unless you are running more than 1
[21:08] <Nitrophysix> Well, they did because as said it was working with windows server, with an active dns service.
[21:08] <Nitrophysix> As said, I moved to linux for speed.
[21:08] <ikonia> there will be no speed improvement
[21:09] <Nitrophysix> I'm out, your useless.
[21:09] <iShaggy> nice guy
[21:09] <ikonia> I appear to be running multiple dns servers just fine
[21:09] <rww> on Windows Server 2008?
[21:10] <ikonia> no
[21:11] <EiriksUbuntu> i think I mv my .xchat2 folder and now I can't find it
[21:11] <syntroPi> BerenBarahir, either use the open source chromium-browser or download the .deb from google to add their repo for chrome
[21:11] <loa> what i need to install under ubuntu if i have such type of errors when i compile my programm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.09.12-01%3A10%3A58.png
[21:11] <busch> Please somebody help me with this fucked up system. I want to upgrade my 12.10 to 14.04 LTS. How?
[21:11] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: history | grep xchat2 ?
[21:12] <ikonia> loa: what are you trying to build
[21:12] <mjrosenb> loa: you probably need to add -lX11 to your link arguments, along with like 20 other X libraries.
[21:13] <marandi> hey guys , how can i program my ubuntu to run this command (as root) ( sudo apt-get upgrade -y && shutdown -h now ) exactly at 2.05 AM ?!
[21:13] <loa> mjrosenb, i have this already.
[21:13] <loa> mjrosenb, i am trying to build this thing
[21:13] <TJ-> !eolupgrade | busch
[21:13] <EiriksUbuntu> mjrosenb  153  sudo mv /home/goodin/.xchat2 /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts
[21:13] <eeee> marandi: sudo -i , crontab -e
[21:14] <BerenBarahir> The file I downloaded is called  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb .....but I can't install it
[21:14] <jhutchins> ikonia: Windows developers, sheesh.  He not only wants a wrong answer, he wants a specific wrong answer.
[21:14] <loa> mjrosenb, lol i fogot about one thing)
[21:14] <marandi> eeee: sorry im really beginner on ubuntu command , can u hint me with the full command ?!
[21:14] <BerenBarahir> syntroPi  the same installation file works with Xubuntu 14.04, but not with Kubuntu 14.04
[21:14] <EiriksUbuntu> my first pipeline :)
[21:15] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: there you go!
[21:15] <loa> mjrosenb, first command was gcc -lX11 wm_class.c -o wm_class but it need to be like this gcc wm_class.c -lX11 -o wm_class
[21:15] <mjrosenb> loa: yup.
[21:15] <BerenBarahir> I'm running KUbuntu 14.04 off a live CD, syntroPi
[21:15] <EiriksUbuntu> mjrosenb !cookie
[21:15] <EiriksUbuntu> darn i tried
[21:16] <eeee> marandi: 5 2 * * * apt-get upgrade -y && shutdown -h now
[21:16] <BerenBarahir> syntroPi When I ran Xubuntu 14.04 off a live CD, I had not problems installing the same installation file for Google Chrome
[21:16] <BerenBarahir> syntroPi:  just right clicked on the file and opened it with the Software Centre, but that does not work with Kubuntu 14.04
[21:17] <gavin__> having issues with flashplayer. can anyone help?
[21:18] <gavin__> anyone?
[21:18] <EiriksUbuntu> how do i move  /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts to /home/goodin/.xchat2
[21:18] <TJ-> eeee: shouldn't that be "shutdown -P now" ?
[21:18] <EiriksUbuntu> i must have been missing something
[21:19] <eeee> TJ-: -h will also poweroff, right? just leave's it up to the system to decide
[21:19] <genii> !details | gavin__
[21:19] <BerenBarahir> Could you recommend a terminal command to install Google Chrome?
[21:19] <TJ-> eeee: "-h" may leave the system running; I don't think that's the expectation
[21:19] <BerenBarahir> Since I cannot install Google Chrome using the software Centre
[21:20] <EiriksUbuntu> isnt it called chromium in linux?
[21:20] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: "sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>"
[21:20] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: there are both: chrome and chromium
[21:20] <BerenBarahir> thanks TJ, I"ll try it
[21:20] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: chrome also exists, but why would you want to use it?
[21:20] <gavin__> Flash player was installed from software center. No websites that require flash will work. I need it for homework. All I get it "Plug-in needed"
[21:20] <jhutchins> BerenBarahir: http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts-or-linux-mint-17.html
[21:20] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: The < > are my markers; don't include them :)
[21:20] <EiriksUbuntu> lol i don't
[21:21] <mjrosenb> gavin__: have you re-started your browser since you installed flash?
[21:21] <EiriksUbuntu> i do want to move  /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts to /home/goodin/.xchat2
[21:21] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: then do move them
[21:21] <jhutchins> TJ-: I think dpkg -i only works if you have the .deb downloaded.
[21:22] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: you probably don't.
[21:22] <EiriksUbuntu> i tried and got rejected, maybe i'm not doing something right
[21:22] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: mv
[21:22] <jhutchins> mv is also used to rename.
[21:22] <BerenBarahir> I did download it, TJ, this is the file I downloaded:  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[21:23] <gavin__> mjrosenb: Yes. I've tried with chromium and firefox several times over the past week. even tried uninstalling and reinstalling hoping that it would get rid of the bug on its own.
[21:23] <EiriksUbuntu> i tried but it don't want to move
[21:23] <jhutchins> BerenBarahir: Then as TJ said, dpkg -i
[21:23] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu:  did you use sudo?
[21:24] <EiriksUbuntu> yes
[21:24] <k1l> no sudo needed to move inside the home
[21:24] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: It helps a lot to tell us what happened rather than just "it didn't work".
[21:24] <mjrosenb> gavin__: ok, uhh, you should find out what files were installed by it.
[21:24] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: Sorry, mixing nics.
[21:24] <EiriksUbuntu> 152  sudo mv /home/goodin/downloads/scripts /home/goodin/.xchat2
[21:24] <mjrosenb> gavin__: you'll first want dpkg -s flash to find out the actual name of the package that was installed.
[21:24] <EiriksUbuntu> nothing happened
[21:24] <gavin__> mjrosenb: how do I do that?
[21:25] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: if it printed nothing that does'nt mean nothing happened.
[21:25] <jhutchins> erobinson_: Both folders still there?
[21:25] <erobinson_> what folders?
[21:25] <mjrosenb> *doesn't
[21:25] <EiriksUbuntu> i looked at both folders, they are both in the same spot
[21:26] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: did you use tab-completion to make sure there are no typos?
[21:26] <ukiwi> Greetings! I'm having a really hard time mapping the four colour buttons on my Logitech Harmony Smart Control Remote to scan-codes. I can see that the kernel is receiving these events when I 'cat /sys/kernel/debug/hid/events' (03 f5 01 00 00). I'm then editing my /lib/udev/hwdb.d/custom.hwdb with the right USB vendor/model (keyboard:usb:v046DpC150*) and my entries should be like other similar events - e.g.  'KEYBOARD_KEY_c0069'.
[21:26] <ukiwi>  After running 'udevadm hwdb --update && udevadm trigger && udevasm control --reload' they're still not working. I suspect my raw events (03 f5 01 00 00 etc) aren't the same as 'c009a' etc. Can anyone help?
[21:28] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: Aren't you trying to move "scripts/" inside ".xchat2/" ? "sudo mv /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts /home/goodin/.xchat2/"
[21:29] <BerenBarahir> That command did not work.  Kubuntu could not find the file and says there were errors
[21:29] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: So you want scripts to become a subdirectory of .xchat
[21:30] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: mv scripts .xchat/
[21:30] <BerenBarahir> Do I need to go to the directory where the file is stored using "CD" command, and then try that dpkg -i command again?
[21:30] <jhutchins> BerenBarahir: Not if you use the full path to the file.
[21:30] <EiriksUbuntu> jhutchins thanks
[21:30] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: Worked?
[21:31] <marandi> guys i run apt-get upgrade -y via crontab , how can i export the result of it into a file ?!
[21:31] <marandi> guys i run apt-get upgrade -y via crontab , how can i export the result of it into a file in realtime ?!
[21:31] <jhutchins> !redirect
[21:31] <jhutchins> Really?
[21:31] <BerenBarahir> I"m not sure how to write the full path, but I know where the file is located: it's in my downloads folder
[21:31] <eeee> marandi: apt-get upgrade -y > /path/to/file 2>&1
[21:31] <eeee> marandi: that will report the errors as well
[21:31] <marandi> eeee: what is &1 ?
[21:32] <jhutchins> marandi: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[21:32] <mjrosenb> marandi: it tells standard error to go t othe same place as standard out.
[21:32] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: "sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb"
[21:32] <eeee> marandi: use >> instead, that will append it to the file instead of overwritting
[21:33] <BerenBarahir> Yeah, sorry TJ, I should have known that, thanks
[21:33] <kurt2014> is vi the commonly used editor on ubuntu
[21:34] <TJ-> kurt2014: "commonly" no , minimal, yes
[21:34] <mjrosenb> kurt2014: there is also emacs, gedit, nano, kate, scite
[21:34] <kurt2014> is emacs the most popilar
[21:34] <eeee> marandi: apt-get upgrade -y >> /path/to/file 2>&1
[21:34] <zerick> Anybody here using Ceph? I'm trying to mount a block using CephFS on a remote client but always get "mount error 5 = Input/output error"
[21:34] <eeee> use that
[21:35] <mjrosenb> kurt2014: I'm not sure it is possible to answer that question.
[21:35] <EiriksUbuntu> jhutchins with some modifications yep :)
[21:35] <bng> hi all, please dont you know how to change the libreoffice save/open file dialogs to use the system one?
[21:35] <marandi> eeee: cool , its working , but can u tell me whats the difference between ">>" and ">" because i use ">" and its working fine
[21:36] <EiriksUbuntu> Fehler beim Speichern /home/goodin/.xchat2/scripts/tts/chanlist: No such file or directory
[21:36] <kurt2014> primarily a solaris unix guy.. ubuntu is just a cut down version od solaris right..
[21:36] <EiriksUbuntu> now it's in the right place, but there isn't a chanlist folder, so I'm making one
[21:36] <eeee> marandi: if you use > , every time the command runs it will overwrite the existing file with the results, (so you'll only have the last command's results there), if you use >> it will continue the file, adding the new results to it
[21:37] <mjrosenb> swin 25
[21:37] <Ben64> Kurko: not at all
[21:37] <Ben64> kurt2014: ^*
[21:38] <BerenBarahir> TJ- It worked, but I got some errors during the installation because of the following problem.....
[21:38] <BerenBarahir>  google-chrome-stable depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0); however:
[21:38] <BerenBarahir>   Package libpango1.0-0 is not installed.
[21:38] <ukiwi> Greetings! I'm having a really hard time mapping the four colour buttons on my Logitech Harmony Smart Control Remote to scan-codes. I can see that the kernel is receiving these events when I 'cat /sys/kernel/debug/hid/events' (03 f5 01 00 00). I'm then editing my /lib/udev/hwdb.d/custom.hwdb with the right USB vendor/model (keyboard:usb:v046DpC150*) and my entries should be like other similar events - e.g.  'KEYBOARD_KEY_c0069'.
[21:38] <ukiwi>  After running 'udevadm hwdb --update && udevadm trigger && udevasm control --reload' they're still not working. I suspect my raw events (03 f5 01 00 00 etc) aren't the same as 'c009a' etc. Can anyone help?
[21:38] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:38] <BerenBarahir> dpkg: error processing package google-chrome-stable (--install):
[21:38] <BerenBarahir>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:39] <BerenBarahir> Is this problem related to the fact that I am running Kubuntu on a live CD?
[21:39] <marandi> eeee: good to know buddy , thanks alot
[21:39] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: no, because you're missing the package it just told you you are missing. why are you installing from a deb anyway instead of like... the google PPA
[21:39] <eeee> marandi: no problem
[21:40] <BerenBarahir> Probably because I was using Xubuntu when I downloaded and saved that installation file
[21:40] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: no
[21:40] <BerenBarahir> I used the installation command TJ- gave me
[21:41] <kurt2014> inux is an offshoot of Unix. Ubuntu is an offshoot of Linux.
[21:41] <Mrono> I'm looking for a good laptop that works well with ubuntu
[21:41] <BerenBarahir> the install package is a deb package
[21:41] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: When you use 'dpkg' you're responsible for ensuring all dependencies are also installed, whereas apt-get does it for you.
[21:41] <Mrono> I have a thinkpad TS400 but the wireless chipset doesn't even have drivers in 14.04
[21:41] <k1l> kurt2014: i think you discussions suit better into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:43] <BerenBarahir> What should I do next?  ....INstall the LibPangol package?
[21:43] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: yes, or use the google PPA
[21:43] <BerenBarahir> Or uninstall Google Chrome?
[21:44] <netlar> Is the recoll lense still available in Unity?
[21:45] <Bobbo_> TJ- / eeee : Installed under legacy mode, seemed to of worked. so I'm just going with that. Thanks for the help anyways, I've learnt some stuff!
[21:45] <BerenBarahir> Package libpango1.0-0 is not installed.
[21:45] <BerenBarahir> Package libappindicator1 is not installed.
[21:45] <TJ-> Bobbo_: haven't we all!?
[21:45] <Bobbo_> Yes.
[21:45] <Bobbo_> Avoid Toshiba like the plague.
[21:45] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: just use the google ppa, this will be much easier
[21:46] <BerenBarahir> Are those the two packages I need to get my Google Chrome working?
[21:46] <netlar> I tried to install it, but says that it is unable to locate the recoll-lens
[21:46] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: Why don't you install "chromium-browser", the open-source package that is in the archive?
[21:46] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: good luck, you seem to be ignoring all advice
[21:46] <BerenBarahir> I don't know the commands for google PPA and I already installed the deb file
[21:47] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: "sudo dpkg -r google-chrome-stable" to remove it
[21:47] <BerenBarahir> thanks TJ-
[21:49] <evaryont> Is there any likelyhood of precise ever getting officially supported openssh 6.6 packages?
[21:49] <k1l> evaryont: precise gets only backport-patches
[21:53] <BerenBarahir> How do I use the sudo apt-get install command to install Google Chrome using the google ppa?
[21:55] <BerenBarahir> Did this channel become inactive?
[21:57] <RobertJDohnert> sudo apt-get install google-chrome
[21:57] <k1l> if its a PPA it should provide packages. install those packages
[21:57] <RobertJDohnert> Just realize you get no flash or Java support
[21:58] <QuaxEros> BerenBarahir: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[21:58] <BerenBarahir> thanks QuaxEros
[21:58] <boris1> my cdrom is not working how can i test to see if it is working
[21:59] <RobertJDohnert> open a terminal and type eject
[22:00] <RobertJDohnert> if the CD-ROM opens it means its working
[22:00] <RobertJDohnert> if it doesnt you have an ioctl problem
[22:01] <squinty> boris: or look for Disks in Installed Software
[22:01] <boris1> ok its working, now i got to find out how to mount a cd
[22:02] <RobertJDohnert> It should automount
[22:02] <squinty> boris:  Disks and check System Settings > Removeable Media etc
[22:02] <squinty> if ua
[22:03] <squinty> if automount is toggled on
[22:03] <RobertJDohnert> The only time I have experienced where it doesnt is if you insert an Windows install CD or a solaris install CD
[22:03] <boris1> no ive try differnt aplcations and nothing works yet
[22:04] <netlar> I am trying to add lenses to the dash, but they are not showing up.  Can anyone help me?
[22:05] <boris1> i have a dvd movie and it wont start
[22:05] <EiriksUbuntu> boris1 you need the codecs
[22:05] <k1l> !codecs | boris1
[22:06] <netlar> I added the Recoll lense and I logged out and logged back in, but that lense still does not show up
[22:06] <EiriksUbuntu> thanks k1l I'll learn it with time :)
[22:07] <netlar> Its shows up in the sources, but I thought a lense would show up at the bottom of the dash
[22:10] <netlar> Do you have the ability to add lenses in 14.04?
[22:12] <netlar> Did they take that out of 14.04?
[22:15] <netlar> Or maybe that is what scopes are for now
[22:16] <k1l> netlar: yes there changed a lot. see the http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/
[22:17] <netlar> k1l: That appears to be more for the mobile area
[22:17] <netlar> k1l: I just remember in 13.04 you could add lenses to the dash
[22:18] <samthewildone> So I recently purchased a bluetooth usb dongle for my computer and, it works. The problem is every time I try to connect to it for use on my headset it glitches.
[22:18] <netlar> k1l: Now those lenses appear to be fixed and unchangable
[22:18] <netlar> k1l: Just those standard 7 lenses
[22:18] <samthewildone> Glitches by it takes about 2 minutes of tinkering with the connect / disconnect settings to get it to work. Is there a way around this because I'm going to find this very annoying in the future.
[22:19] <samthewildone> The headset will connect but, no sound will output unless I change sound settings from telephony to high fidelity. When I select HF it grays out so I have to reconnect the headset and attempt to get it working.
[22:19] <k1l> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=lens+unity&searchon=names them are in the repos
[22:20] <samthewildone> Eventually it works but, it seems like a pain to get it connected.
[22:20] <samthewildone> !bluetooth
[22:20] <netlar> k1l: So that are all the available lenses in 14.04?
[22:21] <k1l> netlar: they are in the repos. you could look out for PPAs
[22:21] <boris1> I finaly got ubuntu to install on my labtop and every thing is working Great but one thing the dvd drive
[22:21] <netlar> Well I tried Recoll, and it says it has a lense for that in a ppa and I installed it, but still not showing up in the dash
[22:22] <boris1> can any one give me some pointers
[22:22] <netlar> point point
[22:22] <netlar> there are two for you
[22:22] <k1l> netlar: did you relogin?
[22:22] <boris1> some help
[22:22] <netlar> k1l: yes, still nothing
[22:23] <boris1> i have tryed some simple like braso to do a copy but that dont reconise it ether
[22:23] <netlar> k1l: Also do not wnat to mess things up, if additional lenses are not available that is ok too, just be nice
[22:25] <k1l> netlar: what gives you "dpkg -l |grep -i recoll"? please in pastebin
[22:26] <samthewildone> how do I find the mac address of my bluetooth headset
[22:27] <netlar> k1l: Here http://pastebin.com/LxkZPk1M
[22:27] <BerenBarahir> Could you please tell me if the following 3 steps would properly install Google Chrome, and automatically include the following 2 packages I had problems with earlier, because I'm not using the google ppa:
[22:27] <BerenBarahir> Package libpango1.0-0
[22:27] <BerenBarahir> Package libappindicator1
[22:28] <BerenBarahir> http://pastebin.com/vDPAtDwn
[22:28] <BerenBarahir> those are the 3 steps
[22:28] <k1l> netlar: you need to start "recoll" first and let it set up its database
[22:28] <k1l> when that is  finished there should be the lense after relogin
[22:28] <netlar> Yes, did that, but let me do that again
[22:29] <netlar> k1l: I did that before installing the lens, maybe I need to do after installing the lense
[22:29] <daftykins> BerenBarahir: you can find out for yourself by doing all but the final command, then run "apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb" instead
[22:30] <BerenBarahir> thanks daftykins
[22:30] <k1l> BerenBarahir: 1st: just get the google chrome .deb  package and install that. 2nd: why are you doing that on a live system?
[22:30] <BerenBarahir> because this PC has Windows XP installed
[22:31] <samthewildone> can anyone help me find the mac address of my bluetooth headset which is already paired ?
[22:32] <BerenBarahir> daftykins  Should I prefix the last command you gave me with sudo?
[22:32] <samthewildone> nevermind got it
[22:34] <daftykins> BerenBarahir: no
[22:35] <BerenBarahir> ok, thanks dafty
[22:36] <netlar> Now it appears I need to restart unity and compiz
[22:37] <k1l> logout.
[22:37] <netlar> I did
[22:37] <netlar> But the desktop is not working anymore
[22:37] <k1l> did recoll run through and did its database?
[22:37] <k1l> o_O
[22:37] <netlar> yes, but unity and or compiz looks messed up
[22:38] <netlar> Forgot how to restart those
[22:38] <netlar> Never mind got it, just needed to click on it
[22:38] <netlar> Stupid me
[22:38] <netlar> Anyway, the lens is still not there
[22:39] <netlar> It is in the sources when I look at the sources for Dash
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> ........apt-cache policy ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> daftykins, I used the above command
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> But Kubuntu could not locate the package
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> It's in my Downloads folder
[22:41] <netlar> k1l: it is alright, not a deal breaker
[22:42] <daftykins> BerenBarahir: that's not how you run it, apt-cache comes from an added PPA as per the instructions you linked, not on a downloaded package
[22:42] <netlar> k1l: I saw articles on how to add lenses for 13.04, got excited, but none of those articals are for 14.04
[22:42] <daftykins> 'cache' refers to the downloaded cache of having run "apt-get update"
[22:42] <k1l> BerenBarahir: you want to install that .deb package?
[22:42] <BerenBarahir> I did what you said, daftykins, but the last command did not work
[22:42] <k1l> BerenBarahir: yes or no?
[22:43] <BerenBarahir> yes
[22:43] <BerenBarahir> Everything worked except the last command
[22:43] <k1l> BerenBarahir: then do: "sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb"
[22:43] <BerenBarahir> thanks k1
[22:44] <netlar> k1l: Are you on Unity?
[22:44] <k1l> netlar: yes
[22:45] <netlar> k1l: Have you successfully installed any additional lenses?
[22:45] <k1l> did not try
[22:45] <netlar> cool cool
[22:46] <camtron> Does the Nintendo 3DS really run Linux? Although it says citation needed, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming#Supported_hardware lists it among GP2X and Neo GeoX as a Linux-based console.
[22:47] <BerenBarahir> I got more errors and dependency problems
[22:47] <BerenBarahir> the last command did not work
[22:47] <k1l> BerenBarahir: !paste them, we dont see what you see
[22:47] <BerenBarahir> the problem is no one here knows how to install the google ppa version of Google Chrome
[22:47] <k1l> camtron: either in #ubuntu-offtopic or ask the 3ds community
[22:49] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  the link that someone posted to you before seems pretty sta
[22:49] <squinty> raight forward    did you try them  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[22:50] <BerenBarahir> But they told me the last command needed to be changed
[22:50] <k1l> i dont know what BerenBarahir is doing there anyway?
[22:50] <ido_> french here?
[22:50] <daftykins> !fr
[22:51] <daftykins> non.
[22:51] <BerenBarahir> they told me the last command in the following 3 steps is wrong  http://pastebin.com/vDPAtDwn
[22:51] <k1l> BerenBarahir: the HowTo is really really really all inclusiv. its just in the last command where you need to use your brain and set <package name> with the actual package name
[22:53] <BerenBarahir> these are the results of my last two commands....http://pastebin.com/mqJcrJhC
[22:54] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you could also just use the software installer after adding the PPA    open up your software installer (Synaptic or whatever ) and then search for Chrome.
[22:54] <Mike9863> I have two monitors that are 1920x1080 however one is much smaller than the other. On the larger monitor, fonts are too large and on the smaller monitor fonts are too small. How can I set it so the fonts are readable on both monitors?
[22:55] <BerenBarahir> I don't know how to add the ppa
[22:55] <BerenBarahir> A lot of people here talked about adding the google ppa for chrome, but no one here knows how to do so, apparently
[22:56] <eeee> Mike9863: you can set the resolution for each monitor , settings > display
[22:56] <BerenBarahir> the people here know a lot more about the deb package than the ppa.  I don't even know what a ppa is
[22:56] <BerenBarahir> all the commands I was given or linked up to use the deb package
[22:57] <eeee> BerenBarahir: the first couple commands add the ppa
[22:57] <BerenBarahir> yeah, but they say the last command is wrong
[22:57] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  copy  and paste the  "wget...." and then the "sudo...."  lines into a terminal.  if no errors reported then either do the " sudo apt-get update" command in the terminal or open your software manager and refresh the sources list.  after it has finished refreshing, search for chrome in the listings.  once found install it via the software manager.
[22:57] <eeee> your rendition of it is
[22:58] <daftykins> !ppa | BerenBarahir
[22:58] <eeee> package name means the package name, not the filename
[22:58] <k1l> BerenBarahir: what is your problem with following this "http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome" howto?
[23:00] <BerenBarahir> ok, so that means the above instructions from k1 all work, but instead of running the last command, I open up my software centre and look for Chrome?
[23:01] <eeee> or, apt-cache search chrome
[23:03] <BerenBarahir> using the software centre sounds easier, because I would not know what to do if I found the package using the apt-cache search chrome command
[23:03] <daftykins> honestly i don't understand why people pursue chrome as if it's like the second coming in browser form =|
[23:04] <eeee> BerenBarahir: the last command in your guide maybe ?
[23:05] <squinty> daftykins:  neither do I and am miffed that firefox decided to pretty much adopt their layout.
[23:05] <k1l> BerenBarahir: you seem to much confused with the terminal and cant follow straight howtos using the terminal. i would suggest you to only use the software-center for now
[23:06] <eeee> squinty: daftykins same here
[23:08] <BerenBarahir> Ok, so daftykins was wrong about my 3 steps.  I posted them here and he was apparently the only one who read them.  He  told me to change the last command,  And I did.
[23:08] <daftykins> no i wasn't
[23:08] <daftykins> i said follow them, then run my command
[23:08] <daftykins> then you suddenly started saying you had a .deb downloaded instead
 BerenBarahir: you can find out for yourself by doing all but the final command, then run "apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb" instead
[23:09] <squinty> BerenBarahir: well he meant you have to change <package name>   to the actual package name which in this case is google-chrome-stable
[23:10] <squinty> BerenBarahir:   in a terminal type or copy/paste the following      apt search google-chrome      see if you get anything returned
[23:10] <daftykins> ah, forgive me i didn't recall putting in the .deb filename
[23:10] <daftykins> truth be told i shouldn't really be assisting here just yet, i'm not long out of hospital :(
[23:11] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you should see   google-chrome-   either beta  or stable or unstable
[23:12] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  if you do see output similar to that then type or copy/paste the following    sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[23:13] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  if you don't see any of that output then your PPA hasn't been added correctly (if you had previously done the "sudo apt-get update" command listed on that web page
[23:14] <joilson> Boa noite galera, alguem fala portugues?
[23:14] <eeee> !portugal | joilson
[23:14] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you should be able to also do this via your Software manager or Synaptic package manager (which personally I prefer over the bling type software manager programs)
[23:15] <BerenBarahir> I got Muon Discovery
[23:15] <BerenBarahir> Software Centre
[23:15] <eeee> !pt | joi
[23:16]  * Luyin uses apt-get [update | upgrade | dist-upgrade | remove | purge] ;) all I ever need
[23:16] <theadmin> Luyin: apt-cache search is helpful too, also apt-get autoremove
[23:18] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you can use the Software Center to install too.   open it up and then check to make sure that the PPA has been added to the sources list.   you can do that by clicking on the top panel and then Edit > Sources
[23:19] <BerenBarahir> I got a lot of errors  and wrong packages installed now, so I think I need to reboot before I try anything else
[23:19] <skinux> Is there a known reason why firefox.com would say my browser is out-of-date, but Firefox doesn't think it is?
[23:20] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  first check in the Software Center for  the ppa entry under  "Other Software"  if it is not there you need to add it
[23:20] <theadmin> skinux: Firefox on Ubuntu checks for updates via Ubuntu's repositories, I think
[23:20] <theadmin> skinux: Basically, check for updates via the Update Manager
[23:21] <squinty> skinux:  probably a newer version available that hasn't come into the repo's yet
[23:21] <theadmin> skinux: If there aren't any, don't worry about it and just wait a couple of days till the Ubuntu devs test the new FF on Ubuntu
[23:21] <BerenBarahir> I"m using a live CD, so doing that will not be saved
[23:21] <skinux> Oh, that explains it. It seems Ubuntu repositories are always a version or two behind official software releases.
[23:22] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  DVD or usb.  if possible (if you can't do a full install) set up persistence on a usb stick to save settings and download files
[23:22] <blkpower> theadmin: that's the beauty of Linux. If its downloaded through repository. An update updates all programs. Not just ubuntu operating system like windows does.
[23:23] <squinty> BerenBarahir: you could also do a full install on a usb stick (with sufficient capacity)
[23:23] <theadmin> blkpower: Many things could be said to be the beauty of Linux ;)
[23:25] <netameta> i have ubuntu 13.10 "saucy" how can i upgrade it// do i need to upgrade it ?
[23:25] <daftykins> !eol | netameta follow the last link here
[23:25] <theadmin> netameta: Yes, you do, it's EOL by now! You should hurry and update soon
[23:25] <eeee> netameta: sudo do-release-upgrade, and yes
[23:25] <daftykins> oh yeah direct would be fine
[23:25] <daftykins> dooooh, i really need to stop coming in here for a while XD
[23:25] <proshotz> netameta: if its not broken don't fix it.
[23:26] <theadmin> netameta: Also, I recommend staying on 14.04 because it's an LTS release (so you will have to upgrade less often)
[23:26] <theadmin> proshotz: 13.10 is EOL.
[23:26] <theadmin> proshotz: Could very well be "broken"
[23:26] <BerenBarahir> Wow, I got a 4 GB USB stick with Kubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso on it, would that work, squinty?
[23:26] <squinty> is it my old brain that can't find a refresh button in the Software Center or is it just missing?
[23:27] <netameta> daftykins thanks again, theadmin how can i update to 14.04 ?
[23:27] <theadmin> netameta: Run the update manager and follow it's instructions, there should be a huge "Upgrade" button on the top
[23:27] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you could use that along with   unetbootin    to use the iso plus a persistence area
[23:27] <netameta> theadmin i dont have it on my machine i am ssh connected
[23:28] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: always wanted wanted it to work. And it did sorta. But had problems upgrading while on USB.
[23:28] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  4 gig is too small to do a full install.  16 gig is what i use
[23:28] <eeee> squinty: i don't think there's a refresh button, but im intrigued by the file > sync between computers
[23:28] <eeee> seems cool pretty cool
[23:29] <squinty> eeee:  :-)
[23:29] <netameta> theadmin, is it even possible throw terminal ?
[23:29] <eeee> *seems pretty cool
[23:29] <theadmin> netameta: Ah right, then "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[23:29] <netameta> i see
[23:29] <netameta> well i will read the link first and see
[23:29] <netameta> thanks, theadmin, eeee and proshotz
[23:29] <wbgvewgbw> how to copy an entire folder to a flash drive from the terminal?
[23:30] <theadmin> wbgvewgbw: cp -r your_folder /media/your_flash_drive/
[23:30] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: cp -r /path/to/folder /path/to/flashdrive
[23:31] <BerenBarahir> But my live CD probably only uses about 1GB, so why do I need more than 4 GB to run Kubuntu live off a USB stick?
[23:31] <wbgvewgbw> Yes, but as I discover the "path"?
[23:32] <squinty> BerenBarahir:   pendrivelinux.com and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ for info on usb stick setups.   unetbootin can be installed via Software Manager or grab a copy off the website for installing with Windows
[23:32] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: you should know the first path, the second is where ever the flash drive is mounted, if you used the button in nautilus it would be under /media/<your username>
[23:32] <theadmin> wbgvewgbw: Browse /media
[23:32] <jcorgan> what is used to create initrd (note: not initramfs) on the ubuntu installer/live dvd?  12.04 had cryptsetup inside it, now 14.04 does not, and i'd like to recreate it with cryptsetup and libraries installed on it.
[23:32] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: you can run it. But my problem happened with upgrading a USB based Ubuntu.
[23:32] <spearhead> BerenBarahir, you don't really need more than 4 gb to do the install, it will pretty much fill up the thumb drive though... so not very useful
[23:33] <jcorgan> that is, what program is used to create the /casper/initrd.lz contents on the installer ISO?
[23:34] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: I am not sure the difference is. But a live CD put on a 1gb USB will work. But you want a full install onto a USB.
[23:34] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  running a full install from a usb stick does have performance hits (ie slower access).. personally I would not be running Kubuntu from a usb stick.
[23:36] <proshotz> Don't you need two USB sticks to install Ubuntu from the live USB to the target install usb
[23:37] <squinty> proshotz: that is one way to do it.
[23:38] <squinty> anyways... have to run.  back later
[23:38] <proshotz> squinty: what's the other way
[23:39] <jcorgan> does anyone know how the contents of the /casper/initrd.lz are determined when the installer live DVD is created?  14.04 is missing cryptsetup and i'd like to add that back.
[23:40] <eeee> proshotz: i guess you could dd an installation, another way would be to use virtualbox, and create a raw disk image file of the usb, load the iso in the vm, and install to the usb
[23:40] <SchrodingersScat> proshotz: agreed with eeee, virtualbox with usb passthrough is good if you don't want to reboot into another install stick
[23:41] <wbgvewgbw> My system broke, I can only access my files via the shell and must pass only one folder (very important to me) and then format. Can someone help me?
[23:41] <proshotz> eeee: so any other way basically creates a live USB with persistent storage.
[23:41] <eeee> proshotz: no, it creates a standalone installation
[23:41] <eeee> as you'd install on a hdd
[23:42] <eeee> grub as a bootloader and everything
[23:42] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: you can use scp -r remote-machine:/home/wbgv/very/important important
[23:42] <wbgvewgbw> I have a USB stick, but I have no idea how to copy the files over the shell.
[23:42] <proshotz> eeee: I am talking about them windows apps that make a bootable USB.
[23:42] <rufianw> Ah.
[23:42] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: Yes
[23:42] <rufianw> I understood you had a remote shell.
[23:42] <rufianw> Then disregard what I said.
[23:43] <rufianw> mount the stick, copy and umount then.
[23:43] <proshotz> eeee: like pendrive for example.
[23:43] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: How? That's the question.
[23:44] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: it should not be difficult if you search in Google, but anyway...
[23:44] <SchrodingersScat> also don't copy the files into something non-persistant..
[23:44] <rufianw> You connect it, search the device name (e.g. sudo fdisk -l and search for a device with the same capacity, it should be something like /dev/sdb1) and then mount it to a folder
[23:44] <rufianw> e.g. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[23:45] <rufianw> Then you can copy files with cp -r source destination
[23:45] <rufianw> (where source and destination are the origin and destination folders)
[23:45] <rufianw> Finally you unmount with umount /dev/sdb1 (that's not a typo) and get your pen.
[23:46] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: Yes /dev/sdb1 *
[23:46] <jcorgan> i'd like to customize the contents of /casper/initrd.lz on the installer DVD to include cryptsetup. it used to be there in 12.04 but is now missing in 14.04.
[23:46] <rufianw> You can explore directories using cd directory to enter in a directory and ls to list files in the current directory
[23:46] <rufianw> cd .. goes to the parent directory
[23:47] <jcorgan> is there a better place to ask my question than #ubuntu?
[23:48] <rufianw> jcorgan: uh? Did they remove cryptsetup? Latest Ubuntu version support encryption in the default installers.
[23:48] <proshotz> jcorgan: maybe a spinoff has it.
[23:48] <jcorgan> i'm not talking about the cryptsetup that can be installed as part of the regular destination filesystem
[23:49] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: For example, the command to copy, it would be: cp / home / important / media / pen?
[23:49] <jcorgan> the initrd.lz that gets booted into pre-installer used to have cryptsetup on it, now it doesn't
[23:49] <jcorgan> proshotz: interesting.  a spinoff is some derivative distribution, or am i misunderstanding
[23:49] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: almost, spaces are important. Also, you need to use -r (recursive to copy directories)
[23:49] <rufianw> cp -r /home/important /media/pen/
[23:50] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: For example, the command to copy, it would be: cp /home/important/media/ pen?
[23:50] <rufianw> see above ^
[23:50] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if you mounted the flash drive to /mnt, you have to cp to /mnt.
[23:50] <rufianw> yes
[23:50] <wbgvewgbw> cp -r /home/important/media/pen?
[23:50] <proshotz> jcorgan: I guess. Like Mint.
[23:50] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: cp -r /home/important/media /mnt
[23:50] <wbgvewgbw> ok
[23:51] <eeee> ^^ run that if you used mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt , earlier
[23:51] <rufianw> jcorgan: so you can't read dm-crypt filesystems in Ubuntu live media?
[23:51] <jcorgan> ok, worth checking out, thanks.  i'd still like to know how canonical creates their iso contents, though
[23:51] <jcorgan> rufianw: once you boot into the live media root filesystem, yes, you can read dm-crypt stuff
[23:52] <spearhead> wbgvewgbw, you need to know the full path to the directory you are wanting to copy and also the folder you mounted your flash drive to.
[23:52] <jcorgan> but i'm talking before that
[23:52] <rufianw> jcorgan: oh, so it is a module.
[23:52] <rufianw> but you need it in the initramfs.
[23:52] <jcorgan> it's a binary and a couple of .so's in the *initrd*
[23:52] <jcorgan> which is not what is created by initramfs as far as i can tell
[23:53] <netameta> how logn does an update usually date ?
[23:53] <rainbowwarrior> hello , can anyone recommend any decent laptop to tv streaming device for Ubuntu please ?
[23:53] <netameta> 13.10 - 14.04
[23:53] <theadmin> netameta: Depends on your network speed
[23:53] <jcorgan> if you look at the kernel command lines on the DVD they all have initrd=/casper/initrd.lz
[23:53] <theadmin> netameta: If everything's downloaded, then about an hour
[23:53] <netameta> well its done downloading
[23:53] <netameta> bah an hor..
[23:53] <theadmin> Well... if you have an SSD, may go a lot faster
[23:53] <proshotz> jcorgan: there are many Ubuntu spinoffs. Probably 10 or more.
[23:53] <netameta> started this in wrong time
[23:54] <theadmin> netameta: You can keep using your machine while it's updating
[23:54] <wbgvewgbw> I tried -r cp /home/important /mnt/pen and is taking, is he copying?
[23:54] <rufianw> theadmin: I'm not sure that's a very good idea.
[23:54] <netameta> i need to go off, for a little bit, and i am afraid the session will time out if there will be any prompt
[23:54] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: yes.
[23:54] <theadmin> netameta: Should have ran it under screen.
[23:55] <jcorgan> proshotz: hoping to avoid downloading and inspecting the live dvd isos for all those spinoffs, but it is a good idea that i may have to resort to, thanks
[23:55] <netameta> whats that?
[23:55] <theadmin> netameta: A tool that allows you to retain terminal sessions even if you disconnect from SSH
[23:55] <spearhead> wbgvewgbw, first of the -r needs to be after the cp and second do you know where the directory is that you want to copy?
[23:55] <theadmin> netameta: Among other things
[23:55] <rufianw> That only applies to remote sessions.
[23:55] <theadmin> rufianw: He is on a remote session
[23:55] <rufianw> Oh, boy.
[23:55] <netameta> theadmin, ah wow
[23:55] <netameta> thats good
[23:55] <rufianw> Never do that again.
[23:56] <theadmin> Actually, yeah, a remote update might be a bad idea in case something decides to börk up
[23:56] <theadmin> Unlikely, but still
[23:56] <rufianw> Which usually does in home Internet connections.
[23:57] <BerenBarahir> Could you please tell me if the following 4 steps would properly install Google Chrome onto Kubuntu 14.04?
[23:57] <BerenBarahir> http://pastebin.com/DJc8GvN5
[23:57] <theadmin> rufianw: Uh, the update doesn't really rely on an Internet connection. Once everything's downloaded you can unplug it
[23:57] <rufianw> theadmin: but the ssh connection does.
[23:57] <theadmin> rufianw: That is true.
[23:57] <wbgvewgbw> Oh, i'm sorry. Actually I tried cp -r /home/important /mnt/pen
[23:57] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: just download google chrome and run it.
[23:58] <rufianw> And if it dies, the update may die too.
[23:58] <spearhead> wbgvewgbw, ok, where is the directory you are trying to copy?
[23:58] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: that will copy the files to a folder called pen on the flash drive
[23:58] <wbgvewgbw> how can I know if it's copying?
[23:58] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: after it's finished type cd /mnt/pen
[23:58] <theadmin> wbgvewgbw: Is it hanging or is it back to the prompt?
[23:58] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if no error returns, then it probably went through
[23:59] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: type cd /mnt/pen , then ls -la to see all files
[23:59] <jcorgan> ooh, i may have gotten lucky
[23:59] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: don't make it more complicated. Just download it from google and run it.
[23:59] <mattxtn> How would a view a log of cron jobs already run?
[23:59] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if you want to see all the files type find /mnt/pen in the terminal, it will list them all
[23:59] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: it will install
[23:59] <jcorgan> i didn't think to look at the standard /boot/initrd.img* that gets installed on a normal system