[17:50] <|thomson|> yes
[17:50] <tiyowan> norpan: Can you do this for me? Boot into windows, connect to the internet, surf around for a while, boot back into Ubuntu, try connecting to the internet from Ubuntu, open a terminal, type dmesg > pastebin.log, ifconfig > pastebin2.log, route > pastebin3.log, and pastebin the results of those three files please?
[17:50] <Wixicy> |thomson|, which is best; PWR at -31, or -94
[17:50] <linnoob> dalekleader, Not sure how to to do that.... Point me in the right direction ?
[17:51] <sebsebseb> Wixicy: not sure if meant to suppourt that one here
[17:51] <dalekleader> linnoob: http://cazatech.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/adding-a-ntfs-partition-to-fstab/
[17:51] <panfist> silverglade00 if i can enable and configure xdmcp than i can use my usual way of getting an X session over ssh, beyond that i dont know much
[17:51] <Wixicy> sebsebseb, it is for legal things, dw
[17:51] <Frogging101> I needed to install a newer version of gstreamer, I downloaded the latest tarball from the gstreamer site. I compiled and installed it. Now there are two copies of gstreamer, one from synaptic, one from the main site, this is causing problems. how do i remove the synaptic one?
[17:51] <silverglade00> panfist, try xming x server for windows. www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
[17:51] <tiyowan> norpan: If it's something related to the hardware, then it should show up in the logs.
[17:51] <ashmew2> Any help on hanging firefox downloads ?
[17:51] <norpan> tiyowan:  ive done that and im in ubuntu now could i  just do that dmesh thing right now?
[17:51] <renagadex> I installed g++ using apt-get and I dont know where it installed to
[17:52] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: hanging Firefox downloads?  be more specific
[17:52] <panfist> sivlerglade00 yes that's what i would use...if xdmcp was enabled. unless it's enabled that wont work
[17:52] <tiyowan> norpan: Well yes, can you connect to the internet from Ubuntu right now
[17:52] <tiyowan> norpan: ?
[17:52] <panfist> unless i'm badly mistaken
[17:52] <kbrosnan> ashmew2: clear the download list?
[17:52] <dalekleader> linnoob: you will need to identify the partion number of your windows partition.  Do you know how to do that?
[17:52] <silverglade00> panfist, ahhh ok i misread the original question
[17:52] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Could you do dpkg -l | grep nvidia and pastebin the results for me, please?
[17:52] <Raven> how do you list devices connected from the terminal?
[17:52] <norpan> tiyowan:  yes but only with my 3g USB modem, not ethernet
[17:53] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: When downloading with Firefox , sometimes it hangs (like at 20% , 30% , any random %) , dunnot whats causing it
[17:53] <tiyowan> Raven: lspci for PCI devices, and lsusb for USB devices.
[17:53] <renagadex> I installed g++ using apt-get and I dont know where it installed to
[17:53] <soundstream6> wuts dat?
[17:53] <linnoob> dalekleader, I already have Windows on 1st partition - Just want to be able to get files from this partition to copy to my Intrepid folders.
[17:53] <Stargazer> Irrelevant link: http://hell-south.myminicity.com/
[17:53] <ashmew2> kbrosnan: Ive cleared the download list hundreds of times but it repeats itself again and again
[17:53] <tiyowan> norpan: Okay fine, could you pastebin the results of dmesg and route, please?
[17:53] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: try a new profile?    maybe use something else to download  wget is pretty cool
[17:53] <norpan> yes
[17:53] <tomaw> Stargazer: please don't
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !wget |  ashmew2
[17:53] <Frogging101> I needed to install a newer version of gstreamer, I downloaded the latest tarball from the gstreamer site. I compiled and installed it. Now there are two copies of gstreamer, one from synaptic, one from the main site, this is causing problems. how do i remove the synaptic one?
[17:53] <dalekleader> linnoob: so you only want to temporarily mount the windows partition?
[17:53] <wrlssteve> 9.04 : 64-bit or 32 ? new laptop has Core 2 duo
[17:53] <renagadex> !irrelevent
[17:53] <norpan> "dmesg" and "route" just? tiyowan
[17:53] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Open a terminal, type dpkg -l | grep nvidia and pastebin the results for me,
[17:53] <linnoob> dalekleader, Yup
[17:53] <ashmew2> sebsebseb : Wget doesnt work with rapidshare etc etc
[17:53] <tiyowan> !pastebin > soundstream6
[17:54] <renagadex> sebsebseb: I installed g++ using apt-get and I dont know where it installed to
[17:54] <tiyowan> norpan: First dmesg, then enter. Then route, enter.
[17:54] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: ok well you can use another browser to download
[17:54] <kbrosnan> ashmew2: you were not clear about what was happening, now that you've explained further i agree that my suggestion will not help
[17:54] <norpan> tiyowan:  could u private msg me, cus its really to hard to see all this text
[17:54] <sebsebseb> !browser >  ashmew2
[17:54] <ashmew2> kbrosnan : :)
[17:54] <dalekleader> linnoob: ok, first open a terminal.  Type sudo fdisk -l
[17:54] <Stargazer> Tomaw, i did advertise it as irrelevant. :P
[17:54] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: thanks
[17:54] <linnoob> dalekleader, ok
[17:54] <Stargazer> But i do apologise, tomaw.
[17:54] <tomaw> Stargazer: which means you know better.
[17:54] <soundstream6> i can do dat
[17:54] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: sure, but  a new profile may do it, you know how to do that?
[17:54] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: Any suggestion for something like firefox ?
[17:54] <wrlssteve> any advice on whether to try 64-bit versus standard 32 bit ?
[17:55] <scales11> hi all.  is there a difference between installing xubuntu vs installing ubuntu-server and then apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop?
[17:55] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: not really , can you gimme any pointers ?
[17:55] <dalekleader> linnoob: you should see one of the partitions as ntfs file system?
[17:55] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: Epiphany and Galeon, because they use the same rendering engine,  plus they are made for Gnome
[17:55] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: so you don't know about the hidden folders in home?
[17:55] <ryniek> hi
[17:55] <linnoob> dalekleader, yup - If you like I can post screen shot ?
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> scales11:  using server can have some issues.. if you want a desktop system.. use xubuntu cd is best.
[17:55] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: k , ill look into Galeon , ive run Epiphany but didnt really like it for some reasons. I know about hidden folders , do i check .firefox ?
[17:55] <ryniek> i've a problem with synaptic and add/remove programs
[17:55] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: view    >  show hidden files and folders
[17:56] <ryniek> i've googled, but found nothing useful
[17:56] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: in Home.   you can do view list, and press by type, for nice alphabetical order by type
[17:56] <sielk> Again cause I disconnected, can one install a virus over wine? I just thought about it and now I am curious. Is the trade off of being able to use windows programs worth the risk of potential viruses?
[17:56] <kbrosnan> ashmew2: .mozilla
[17:56] <ryniek> i haven't got synaptic in menu
[17:56] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: Yeah , Ctrl + H , ok im inside .mozilla
[17:56] <dalekleader> linnoob: ok, no need, just make a mental note of the partition number  should be something like sda1
[17:56] <soundstream6> tiyowan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/190998/
[17:56] <ryniek> it's gone
[17:56] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: firefox> profiles.ini ?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: .mozilla is your Firefox profile,  you can  more  with cut or delete it,  and then when you  open Firefox again you will be using a new profile
[17:56] <joe__> Seems to be major problems in 9.04 mounting external drives, anyone know how to get one to show on the desktop? It now appears in /media as a folder with the label name, but not on the Desktop, and I have to use GParted to unmount it.
[17:57] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: the whole of .mozilla is your Firefox profile
[17:57] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: it will delete all cookies , saved passes etc etc ?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: yes if you delete it, but you can move it
[17:57] <linnoob> dalekleader, ok - yea it's sda1
[17:57] <scales11> Dr_Willis: i wouldnt just install server.  i just wanted a way to test boot speed vs desktop manager.  i am using vanilla ubuntu for the moment but when i tried xubuntu i didnt see any real speed difference. (i have an eee 1000he)
[17:57] <soundstream6> tiyowan: ok?
[17:57] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: Ok , ill just cut and paste it somewhere else and restart firefox
[17:57] <norpan> tiyowan:  ive send im PM cus i do alot of other things and my name does not get highlighted
[17:57] <dien> bro? why pidgin can't connect with yahoo?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: yep ok
[17:57] <dalekleader> now, you will want to make a folder to mount too.  type sudo mkdir /media/windows
[17:57] <scales11> Dr_Willis: also overall performance vs desktop manager
[17:57] <ryniek> bump
[17:57] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: it will be hidden  wherever you  move it to as well
[17:57] <ryniek> does anybody see me?
[17:58] <scales11> ryniek: yes
[17:58] <dien> yea ryniek
[17:58] <ryniek> thx : )
[17:58] <koichirose> hi, i'm trying to get rid of totem in firefox: if I download some media with downloadstatusbar enabled, and I double click it, it opens totem even if the default player for that filetype is smplayer
[17:58] <arthurh> Is there an apt meta-package of sorts that ONLY applies security updates?
[17:58] <ashmew2> sebsebseb: Yeah , thanks for the info man , ill get back to you if problem persists..Thanks for your time :D
[17:58] <ryniek> does anybody had the same problem with synaptic?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: ok np
[17:58] <ashmew2> cya later guys , ill be back! :)
[17:58] <sebsebseb> bye
[17:58] <dien> what with your synaptic?
[17:58] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Thx, wait one.
[17:59] <ryniek> it has gone
[17:59] <hosified> any recommendations on a usenet reader with nzb support and maybe a good search capability?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> !details |  ryniek
[17:59] <ryniek> ok
[17:59] <dien> dou you try to sudo apt-get update?
[17:59] <hosified> ...and I got the sound thing figured out...
[17:59] <Wunderbar> how do I go about removing all the unused kde apps from my machine- Ive already removed kde btu apparently not the apps...
[17:59] <hosified> f-sakes
[17:59] <ryniek> i've got the same problem as mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-240612.html
[17:59] <ryniek> but that advice didn't helped me
[18:00] <linnoob> dalekleader, Hey - I already got it - Went to < Places/Computer - Clicked on DSK1_VOL1 and asked permission - entered password and let in to copy files - THanks for help.
[18:00] <pfak> Does anyone know how to delay mounting of /boot - I have a problem where I boot this system and it doesn't detect the /boot device until after it's tried to mount it ..
[18:00] <renagadex> I installed g++ using apt-get and I dont know where it installed to
[18:00] <dalekleader> linnoob: np
[18:00] <dien> oke? i give up :) can anybody help me pidgin :D
[18:00] <linnoob> dalekleader, have a good day - cya
[18:00] <anthony2009> français ?
[18:00] <gee9043> good night
[18:00] <renagadex> !french
[18:01] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Wait one, ok, I'm searching on the forums. :)
[18:01] <ryniek> when i try add Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs to the Menu, they're hiding again
[18:01] <dalekleader> dien: wu
[18:01] <soundstream6> ok
[18:02] <renagadex> I installed g++ using apt-get and I dont know where it installed to
[18:02] <dien> i'm using pidgin on cdma but it didn't connect after 2nd login on yahoo... why is that? i'm using Jaunty
[18:02] <sebsebseb> ryniek: so your getting an error message?
[18:02] <ryniek> now i don't get any error message
[18:03] <dalekleader> dien: but i take it, it works on land line or 54g
[18:03] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Okay, we could try this suggestion....but I'm not sure whether it will work.
[18:03] <ryniek> i just haven't got these programs in menu
[18:03] <soundstream6> ok
[18:03] <ryniek> if i turn synaptic from terminal, it works
[18:03] <Norpan> tiyowan:  =/ how bad... now the ethernet works.. that means its not working if i boot into windows
[18:03] <ryniek> but can't pin it to the menu
[18:03] <Norpan> ARGH
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ryniek: so you did exactly what that thread said?
[18:03] <Devilsprey99> can anyone solve this problem for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/191000/
[18:03] <fccf> ryniek: system>preferences>mainmenu
[18:04] <Norpan> This is so annoying
[18:04] <tiyowan> Norpan: Okay, do this then. Boot into Windows, try connecting to the Internet, note down the -exact- error msg, and tell me what it says.
[18:04] <ryniek> yes i did
[18:04] <tiyowan> soundstream6: You have a LiveCD handy right in case this doesn't work?
[18:04] <ryniek> but the checked programs uncheked automatically
[18:04] <ryniek> *unchecked
[18:04] <dien> last time i've read about that, seems my network manager didn't recognize wvdial. is that true?
[18:04] <dien> how can I fix that
[18:05] <Norpan> tiyowan:  well its basicly the same as in ubuntu, the behaivor is exactly the same
[18:05] <sebsebseb> fccf: :)   not sure if I been there before,   also that program is probably pretty new the main menu app,   anyway yeah  that should be easier than telling them to go into .local and find wine there and delete shortcuts like that
[18:05] <tiyowan> Norpan: That's fine, but I need some sort of error msgs in order to diagnose the problem.
[18:05] <dien> gprs cdma.
[18:06] <dalekleader> dien: ok i am a little confused.  You have pidgin working on either a hardline or 54g network but it doesnot work on your cellular
[18:06] <dien> none of those land line or 54g, my connection aka cdma dial-up :D
[18:06] <Devilsprey99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191000/ plz anyone
[18:06] <dien> yeah thats true..
[18:06] <fccf> sebsebseb: he's trying to put synaptic back in the menu - not working
[18:06] <dalekleader> dien: ok, can you open a browser and open a website
[18:07] <dien> sure
[18:07] <ryuk_> hello everyone..
[18:07] <sebsebseb> fccf: yes I know, but I meant other people  that have asked me how to  remove the Wine shorcuts in the past, and there will be more in the future I expect.   I was just saying the app you mentioned could also be useful for that.
[18:07] <Winball> is the keyserver.ubuntu.com down ?
[18:07] <dalekleader> dien: from the cdma?
[18:07] <Paulo39> where is the file with the settings about console? i want to set a different size to the window of console
[18:07] <sebsebseb> fccf: so thanks for that
[18:07] <dien> yeah? cdma
[18:08] <dalekleader> dien: hmm..jus a sec
[18:09] <Mirge> howdy
[18:09] <hosified> doodie
[18:09] <ibuclaw> Devilsprey99, http://knol.google.com/k/ld/apt-get-update-has-problem-with/19udq6l2htdsk/8#
[18:09] <Mirge> lol
[18:09] <fccf> sebsebseb: thank you for recognizing that ... I consider myself an advanced 'user' - while I do some programming - I do more playing around with programs than anything else - and my system is stable - running flumotion for 3 weeks without reboot
[18:09] <dalekleader> dien: are you using network-manager for dialup or another program
[18:09] <sebsebseb> fccf: I consider myself a resaonably experienced user, hence why  I woudn't just notice a main menu app in the menu
[18:09] <dien> dalekleader: wvdial
[18:09] <ryuk_> guys can someone help me out here.. im looking for good software to boost my music output and also a good music player
[18:10] <dalekleader> dien: sorry, you did mention that
[18:10] <sebsebseb> fccf: go back a release or a few, and  I don't think there was one,  anyway this is off topic now
[18:10] <dien> dalekleader: np
[18:10] <fccf> sebsebseb: there in 8.04LTS
[18:11] <PeterOyore> I solved the Lost my "default workspace" Option Had to use Synaptic Pkg Mnger to get another version . And all is well now..Just wated to add that to the brain trust here
[18:11] <sebsebseb> fccf: ok
[18:11] <PeterOyore> THANKS
[18:11] <sebsebseb> !caps >  PeterOyore
[18:11] <dalekleader> dien: try disabling networkmanager
[18:12] <Flannel> sebsebseb, fccf: Alacarte was introduced back in Edgy, I believe.
[18:12] <Norpan111> tiyowan "network access missing"
[18:12] <Norpan111> tiyowan "unidentified network; networkaccess missing"
[18:12] <sebsebseb> Flannel: well  maybe I have used or opended it before then,  just didn't remember
[18:12] <Norpan111> tiyowan cant get proper DNS i think
[18:13] <Devilsprey99> ibuclaw, thanks
[18:13] <Mirge> ton more people here than I expected
[18:13] <Norpan111> tiyowan also i  cant see the those wireless networks on ubuntu that i see on windows
[18:13] <dien> dalekleader: thanks, it works now.... :D kudos to you
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Mirge: normally about 1500 people here these days
[18:13] <dalekleader> dien: you are welcome
[18:13] <Mirge> wow
[18:13] <Mirge> I honestly expected maybe 200 tops lol
[18:13] <Winball> users: 1479
[18:14] <renagadex2> !sound | renagadex2
[18:14] <fccf> Mirge: not all of them are sitting in front of their computers
[18:14] <flexpb> swe channal :) ?
[18:14] <fccf> !sw
[18:14] <kalvin> Hey, guys~
[18:14] <Norpan111> tiyowan should i try to "solve issue" ?
[18:14] <sebsebseb> Mirge: yeah many of the people here,  don't seem to even chat in the channel
[18:14] <Norpan111> tiyowan then it says its DNS and it cannot be solved
[18:15] <Mirge> ah
[18:15] <koichirose> hi, i'm trying to get rid of totem in firefox: if I download some media with downloadstatusbar enabled, and I double click it, it opens totem even if the default player for that filetype is smplayer
[18:15] <dien> dalekleader: can pidgin show my buddie webcam?
[18:15] <kbrosnan> koichirose: tools > addons > plugins > disable totem plugins
[18:15] <tiyowan> Norpan111: Sorry I was afk, you got these msgs on Windows?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Mirge: yeah they don't chat here at all,   would you like help with something by the way?
[18:15] <Norpan111> tiyowan, "networkaccess missing"
[18:15] <ninjafury> My laptop can't auto suspend properly. It suspend's fully only when I click 'suspend'. Otherwise it just shows a blank screen with a cursor. Can anyone help?
[18:15] <NoiseEee> if im 'upgrading' a package versus installing, do i still use "dpkg -i fileName"
[18:16] <ibuclaw> Devilsprey99, a list of Ubuntu mirrors can be found here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:16] <soundstream6> yes
[18:16] <koichirose> kbrosnan: I have a 'default plugin' is that right?
[18:16] <soundstream6> tiyowan: yes~!
[18:16] <Flannel> NoiseEee: yes
[18:16] <ibuclaw> obviously. choose one that is close to you :)
[18:16] <renagadex> Is there a sound manager I can install?
[18:16] <Devilsprey99> ibuclaw,  do i replace the whole list or some part of it
[18:16] <NoiseEee> Flannel: ty
[18:16] <kbrosnan> koichirose: yes, but it does not handle any media
[18:16] <ninjafury> !suspend
[18:16] <dalekleader> dien: i am pretty sure it does, i do not use webcams
[18:16] <Mirge> nah don't need help, thanks though. was just coming on here to see if I could relieve some boredom
[18:16] <renagadex> !kick
[18:17] <koichirose> kbrosnan: what do you mean?
[18:17] <sebsebseb> Mirge: by helping others :)
[18:17] <Norpan111> tiyowan i private msg you
[18:17] <fccf> Mirge: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <Mirge> hehe
[18:17] <ibuclaw> Devilsprey99, only the security.ubuntu.com lines, as that is the mirror that seems to not work.
[18:18] <dien> dalekleader: thanks again :D by the way. its 12 am here. get sleep now
[18:18] <kbrosnan> koichirose: the default plugin just provides a way to find other plugins
[18:18] <Mirge> need to run & do some finances stuff, bbl
[18:18] <koichirose> kbrosnan: ok, so this wont help me?
[18:18] <dalekleader> dien: ha, its 1PM here
[18:19] <kbrosnan> koichirose: well disabling the default plugin won't change anything but disabling totem based plugins will
[18:19] <omnydevi> soundstream6: when you go to restricted drivers, for the nvidia card is there more than 1 option?
[18:19] <koichirose> kbrosnan: how do I do that? I even uninstalled the mozilla plugin via apt
[18:20] <ninjafury> Can anyone help? I'm running Jaunty amd64/nvidia drivers. My laptop can't suspend properly unless I click suspend. The auto-suspend shows a black screen with a cursor, but the cpu is still running. How can I fix this?
[18:20] <renagadex2> Is there a sound manager I can install?
[18:20] <kbrosnan> koichirose: might be labeled gstreamer, i'm not on ubuntu atm. they are provided by default
[18:20] <Devilsprey99> ibuclaw,  E: Malformed line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) this message returned
[18:21] <koichirose> kbrosnan: ok thanks, i'm going to look for it
[18:22] <sebsebseb> renagadex2: maybe not that helpful, but
[18:22] <sebsebseb> !sound > renagadex2
[18:23] <felix_>  i made a port forwarding so myipaddr:8082 goes to pc1insidemyLAN:8082, i made apache2 listen to <IP_ADDRESS>:8082 port (dunno if its right, or i should put my internal ip address, <IP_ADDRESS>). i checked but still not work. i am missing something?
[18:24] <ninjafury> Google/forums were no help so I'll ask again: Can anyone help? I'm running Jaunty amd64/nvidia drivers. My laptop can't suspend properly unless I click suspend. The auto-suspend shows a black screen with a cursor, but the cpu is still running. How can I fix this?
[18:25] <buddykaru> Hello all, i'm trying to do a persistent ubuntu installation on my usb hard drive .. i've got myself ubuntu 9.04 ISO. Can someone pls. instruct me?
[18:25] <sielk> Ok that I just did
[18:25] <sebsebseb> buddykaru: no, but maybe the guide can
[18:25] <sebsebseb> !usb > buddykaru
[18:25] <sourya> hey i just installed 9.04..the boot time and all seems to have increased a lot since 8.10 but the problem is that i'm having a real slow desktop.like the minimizing/max is very slow....the effects are off
[18:25] <bkraptor> does anyone here have anything against using both aptitude and synaptic on a ubuntu install?
[18:25] <sielk> Buddykaru are you on ubuntu right now or no?
[18:26] <buddykaru> sebsebseb: the guide talks about the 'live' usb installation.. what i want is a persistent installation
[18:26] <ibuclaw> Devilsprey99, you used the word MIRRORURL instead of an actual mirror?
[18:26] <buddykaru> sielk: yes, running 8.10
[18:26] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: aptitude is better for bigger stuff, because it deals better with dependancies.  apt-get  you can use as well, and  yes synaptic the gui for apt-get
[18:26] <goose> wtf
[18:26] <sebsebseb> buddykaru: ok not my area
[18:26] <sebsebseb> !language | goose
[18:26] <goose> who told ubottu to PM  me whinging about an away message?
[18:27] <goose> my away message isn't on announce
[18:27] <sebsebseb> goose: maybe one of the ops
[18:27] <mmcji> howdee..I am running Xubuntu 9.04, sometimes when I insert a CDROM into my laptop, I am unable to remove the cdrom w/o rebooting.  The CD's are old ISO's of ubuntu.  When I am unable to remove the cd without rebooting, I try to force the device to unmount with umount -f /media/cdrom and cdrom0....this does not work and I get a message saying "Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_TS_L632H."  Other cd's eject w/
[18:27] <mmcji> o problem.
[18:27] <goose> and I've been away since I signed on and it's in my connect sequence like, 8 hours ago
[18:27] <ibuclaw> Devilsprey99, probably a more obvious list of Ubuntu mirrors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors   most (if not all) have hardy-security hosted on them. Choose one that is close to home.
[18:27] <bkraptor> sebsebseb: I've been advised by the debian folks over at #debian to not use both aptitude and apt-get
[18:28] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: right, but that's Debian
[18:28] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: apt-get  for smaler stuff,  aptitude for bigger stuff
[18:28] <goose> Flannel, any reason you told ubottu to PM me about my away message?
[18:28] <bkraptor> sebsebseb: define "bigger" and "smaller" please :)
[18:28] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: that's what I do, and it works fine in Ubuntu,   oh yeah and Synaptic for stuff I am not sure the name of :d   yeah I could apt-get cache search or whatever,  but  Synaptic is ok
[18:29] <antibody> Hello I'm having a problem, yesterday night my wireless stopped working(Wpa key on) other free access points in the neighbourhood allow me to connect. In windows I can connect to mine ....(yes...it came with computer ) what can I do?
[18:29] <antibody> I removed the AP preferences and it's still the same
[18:29] <Flannel> goose: Your nick changes when you're away (goose|zZz), If you have an away message above that, we have no qualms with that.
[18:29] <kneer0w> hey
[18:29] <fosco__> bkraptor, aptitude is better for everything, but you can use whatever you want
[18:29] <soundstream6> no
[18:29] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: the big stuff like   kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop   it's probably better to install with aptitude really
[18:29] <Pici> sebsebseb: Why?
[18:29] <buddykaru> has anyone run ubuntu completely from a usb drive? i mean the fully customized installation??
[18:30] <antibody> yes buddykaru
[18:30] <sebsebseb> Pici: ,because it deals with dependancies better than apt-get ?
[18:30] <rt1970> hi everyone...it's my first time here. i hope to be able to help as much as I ask.:-)
[18:30] <bkraptor> fosco__: I'm not asking which is better, I am aware aptitude is more complex, but I am also using synaptic a lot so I was wondering if there is any advice against using aptitude with synaptic
[18:30] <antibody> not 9.04 but I tested once with 8.04
[18:30] <Wixicy> !ask rt1970
[18:30] <mmcji> buddykaru: yes
[18:30] <rt1970> i've got a strange problem. i'm trying to find the twhirl icon
[18:30] <fosco__> bkraptor, nothing to worry about
[18:30] <buddykaru> antibody: i'm referring to a persistent install.. not using usb-creator and stuff
[18:30] <rt1970> but there aren't any icons in the icons file.
[18:30] <bin1010> has anyone found a replacement for something like Dragon Naturally Speaking for Ubuntu?  I have a coworker who could free themselves from microsoft if there was something similarly available.  Thanks
[18:30] <Pici> sebsebseb: Neither should work with dependencies better than the other. They're both fine to use for anything.
[18:30] <antibody> yes buddykaru
[18:30] <goose> the hell with this, then. I didn't realize it was spamming the channel to do a nick change 6 hours after my last nick change. Later.
[18:30] <antibody> the files are kept in usb key
[18:30] <rt1970> has anyone else had this problem?
[18:30] <bkraptor> funny, the debian folks were all paranoid about using both apt-* and aptitude
[18:31] <buddykaru> antibody: can you pls. share some links with me
[18:31] <antibody> I had problems get nvidia drivers to work.. I had to load manually every time
[18:31] <antibody> i'll have to research them
[18:31] <antibody> ehehe
[18:31] <sielk> How long should Gparted take/
[18:31] <sielk> Trying to reproduce an error message to post here
[18:31] <kneer0w> you tell me ;)
[18:31] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: yeah and I  think one of the ideas was to replace  apt-get in Debian with aptitude, but  don't think it happended exactly in the end
[18:31] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Do you have a LiveCD with you?
[18:31] <whatvn> antibody: and publish release one, lol
[18:31] <sebsebseb> !aptitude
[18:31] <rt1970> the icons should be at opt/twhirl/icons/twhirl-48.png
[18:31] <soundstream6> yes
[18:31] <Titan8990> sebsebseb, aptitude is a front-end of apt-get
[18:31] <antibody> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[18:32] <rt1970> or whatever png file, but they're not there. the icon folder is empty
[18:32] <Flannel> Titan8990: No, aptitude is a frontend to apt.  apt-get is also a frontend to apt.
[18:32] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: probably out of the two aptitude is better, but apt-get should do it
[18:32] <Icebreaker> hello
[18:32] <Icebreaker> I have a problem with gDesklets
[18:32] <antibody> so no hints about my wireless problem?
[18:32] <antibody> this is pissing me off badly
[18:32] <bkraptor> sebsebseb: I'm used to apt-get and was wondering whether the effort for getting used to aptitude is worth it
[18:32] <antibody> btw..what's the option to force  fscheck to run in next boot?
[18:33] <ashmew2> HI
[18:33] <sebsebseb> bkraptor: if you type in aptitude in the terminal  you  get a nice little terminal app, but it dosen't really need to be used
[18:33] <ashmew2> omg i need serious help with downloads hanging issue...Firefox was hanging , now wget is hanging as well
[18:33] <whatvn> which thing I can do when my computer freezes, mouse can move, program still runs, but cannot click on any icon, keyboard do nothing?
[18:33] <Flannel> antibody: sudo touch /forcefsck
[18:33] <ashmew2> hey sebsebseb , wget is hanging as well..
[18:33] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Okay, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=742537&highlight=geforce2+%2Bmx400+%2Bfreeze
[18:33] <antibody> ty flannel
[18:33] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: I guess you got some kind of network issue
[18:33] <tiyowan> soundstream6: The thinking on that thread is that you need to install the nvidia-glx-legacy package.
[18:34] <antibody> I guess i'll try a reboot in my pc and AP for the wireless :(
[18:34] <koichirose> is someone still having problems with video tearing and ati cards (ubuntu 9.04 x64, ati latest catalyst)
[18:34] <ashmew2> sebsebseb : any ways to find out what it is ? i mean any way at all.. ?
[18:34] <antibody> I had to go to windows last night, guess that
[18:34] <soundstream6> ok
[18:34] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: well I guess I can't really help, so  try your issue here again
[18:34] <ashmew2> k thx man
[18:34] <Icebreaker> hello?
[18:34] <sebsebseb> ashmew2: repeat the issue
[18:34] <sebsebseb> the question
[18:34] <Icebreaker> I have problem with gDesklets
[18:34] <Icebreaker> it does not open
[18:35] <ashmew2> Downloads dont finish when downloading files through firefox/wget etc , seems to be a problem with network , but it runs fine on Fedora , So im clueless...wHat to Do ?
[18:35] <whatvn> Icebreaker: open terminal and type in GDesklets, enter
[18:35] <tiyowan> soundstream6: If you're willing to take the risk, you could try running the two commands, sudo apt-get --purge remove nividia*, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy.
[18:35] <whatvn> which thing I can do when my computer freezes, mouse can move, program still runs, but cannot click on any icon, keyboard do nothing?
[18:35] <mmcji> apt-get vs. aptitude?  They both work fine, if you are not installing everything under the sun, you will never really have any problems.  In my experience that is.
[18:35] <ctmjr> koichirose, yep getting better but still tearing
[18:36] <soundstream6> on terminal rite?
[18:36] <koichirose> ctmjr: :( seems incredible that they work on 3D and features and they don't solve this immediately
[18:36] <Icebreaker> bash: /usr/bin/gdesklets: /usr/bin/python2.5: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[18:36] <Icebreaker> thats the error i get
[18:36] <Icebreaker> if i type gdesklets
[18:37] <fosco__> whatvn, an emergency solution, hold Alt+PrintScreen and type REISUB, it will do a clean reboot
[18:38] <sebsebseb> fosco__: hummm didn't  know that, maybe i'll try it sometime
[18:38] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Yep.
[18:38] <whatvn> fosco__: if keyboard doesnot take effect
[18:38] <sebsebseb> fosco__: I guess I will, but what does  REISUB mean?
[18:38] <Icebreaker> whatvn?
[18:38] <Icebreaker> :p
[18:38] <fosco__> http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart
[18:38] <soundstream6> tiyowan: is this means ok? --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/191014/
[18:39] <sebsebseb> fosco__: do that and Ubuntu re boots?
[18:39] <whatvn> fosco__: I've try many keyboard shortcut, but hopeless
[18:39] <fosco__> sebsebseb, yes, most of the times
[18:39] <Icebreaker> ah i just got it fixed
[18:39] <Icebreaker> thanks anyway
[18:39] <sebsebseb> fosco__: ok cool
[18:39] <swayed> What is a good website to upload a screenshot etc. ? ?
[18:39] <ctmjr> koichirose, you can install the radeonhd open source driver but if your like me with  a newer card you will not get 3d acceleration
[18:39] <sebsebseb> swayed: imageshack.us
[18:39] <fosco__> swayed, imageshack.us
[18:39] <whatvn> fosco__: will try next time. thank you, bro!
[18:39] <boris]> can some one help me whid mrtg ? l get strange reading from eth0
[18:39] <swayed> fosco__, Any others?
[18:40] <swayed> sebsebseb, any others?
[18:40] <whatvn> Icebreaker: maybe gdesklet's error
[18:40] <sebsebseb> swayed: flikr if you get an account I suppouse,    photobucket maybe
[18:40] <tiyowan> soundstream6: If you're willing to take the risk, you could try running the two commands, sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy.
[18:40] <koichirose> ctmjr: yeah, I have a 4850, actually I don't care that much about 3d acceleration.... will it fix the tearing problem for sure?
[18:40] <whatvn> Icebreaker: I'm not software developer :-p
[18:40] <sebsebseb> swayed: ,but  photobucket and Linux thingey, it's in the FAQ
[18:40] <flexor> hello
[18:40] <DanDan> hello .. I'm reinstalling Ubuntu .. the one im on now is ubuntu 9.04 64bit version im not sure why in the 1st place I've installed a 64bit version .. I have intel Centrino Duo HP Compaq Laptop I'm guessing 3 GHz ... any advices ?
[18:40] <tiyowan> soundstream6: It's sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*, my mistake.
[18:41] <soundstream6> ive done dat
[18:41] <sebsebseb> swayed: one of them didn't supourt Linux properly anymore,  that was Photobucket
[18:41] <soundstream6> here it is... is this means ok? --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/191014/
[18:41] <swayed> sebsebseb, I guess imageshack would be best for a quick screenshot - wouldn't be allot pics .
[18:41] <sebsebseb> swayed: indeed at that
[18:41] <DanDan> how can I know if my Laptop is able to use a 64bit software ?
[18:42] <fccf> swayed: i see alot of people using tinypic
[18:42] <sebsebseb> DanDan: simple by knowing if you  have a 64bit proccessor or not
[18:42] <tiyowan> soundstream6: It's sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*, my mistake. There's an extra i.
[18:42] <DanDan> an intel Centrino Duo is considered as a 64bit im guessing ?
[18:42] <tiyowan> DanDan: No.
[18:42] <ibeekman> Where is the user password and log in information kept?
[18:42] <swayed> sebsebseb, I used another one that was pretty good but real similar to imageshack but can't find my bookmark for it.
[18:43] <tiyowan> DanDan: Only the Core Duo/Core 2 Duo line is 64 bit I believe.
[18:43] <ibeekman> I am trying to recover a system running a RHEL derivative, and migrate it to ubuntu
[18:43] <Titan8990> ibeekman, /etc/passwd /etc/shaddow
[18:43] <DanDan> tiyowan : is there a command I can add to the terminal to know ?
[18:43] <boris]> can some one help me whid mrtg ? l get strange reading from eth0 . send me a msg if you can help me
[18:43] <swayed> fccf, maybe thats the one I was looking for - will check it out.
[18:43] <ibeekman> Titan8990: I am trying to migrate a broken RHEL derivative system to ubuntu
[18:43] <SamCroft> Anyone ever tried to install World of Warcraft using wine?
[18:43] <fccf> swayed: more like a pasetebin for images
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > ibeekman
[18:44] <tiyowan> SamCroft: Check the appdb at winehq.
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > SamCroft
[18:44] <ibeekman> Titan8990: can I just copy the contents of /etc/passwprd and /etc/shaddow directly?
[18:44] <Titan8990> ibeekman, wouldn't that just break it more?
[18:44] <mmcji> nm, i figured the mount thingy out.  Was my own fault...
[18:44] <swayed> fccf, yea that looks like a great one for quick screen shot - thanks
[18:44] <tiyowan> DanDan: sudo lshw -C Processor
[18:44] <kazagistar> is it just me, or have the kernel package dependencies been broken for the past week? all 3 of my Ubuntu computers have conflicts if I try to install updates
[18:44] <ctmjr> koichirose,  yes it has nice video playback http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[18:44] <Titan8990> ibeekman, should, can't confirm as I havn't tried it
[18:45] <SamCroft> Thanks alot
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kazagistar Pastebin your sources list
[18:45] <fidelitas> has anyone experience with pspice under ubuntu?
[18:45] <koichirose> ctmjr: thanks
[18:45] <fidelitas> has anyone experience with pspice under ubuntu?
[18:45] <soundstream6> do i need 2 restart
[18:45] <soundstream6> ?
[18:45] <swayed> fccf, pastebin is pretty much just for text or code - correct?
[18:45] <fccf> !repeat | fidelitas
[18:46] <sky_1> how i can create a rar ?
[18:46] <ctmjr> koichirose,  make sure you do the subpage 2d acceleration also
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fidelitas Please only repeat every few minutes not each time it scrolls off the screen ty
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[18:46] <ibeekman> Titan: Let me be clearer: my RHEL derivative machine won't boot into single user mode and I cannot mount the drive yet using a live cd.  I've been wanting to move the machine to ubuntu, so my plan is to backup the home directory and if possible backup /etc/passwd and /etc/shaddow so i don't have to reconfigure the users etc.
[18:46] <fccf> swayed: yes pastebin is for text/code/errors... there are a number of different places to paste but !ot
[18:47] <sky_1> Jack_Sparrow: dont want unrar i want make rar
[18:47] <DanDan> tiyowan : thnx :) .. thats funny the attached stamp on the laptop is intel centrino duo but in the terminal Inter core .. 64bit
[18:47] <fosco__> sky_1, it is the same command
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sky_1 Please read the link, that will do both
[18:47] <sky_1> ok
[18:47] <tiyowan> DanDan: What laptop do you have?
[18:47] <DanDan> HP Compaq nx7400
[18:47] <renagadex> sebsebseb: Do you know anything about g++?
[18:47] <swayed> fccf, Hey - I just found my bookmark - This another one I like - Check it out < http://bayimg.com/ >
[18:47] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Did you run the two commands?
[18:48] <kazagistar> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/m37ecb17c <- pretty standard, don't know why I keep getting conflicts
[18:48] <swayed> fccf,
[18:48] <DanDan> Tiyowan : HP Compaq nx 7400
[18:48] <swayed> fccf, opps - saying thanks here
[18:48] <tiyowan> DanDan: That's a Core 2 Duo. :P
[18:48] <soundstream6> yes
[18:48] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Can you pastebin the results?
[18:48] <swayed> sebsebseb, This is other site I was looking for < http://bayimg.com/ > - Thanks
[18:48] <sky_1> Jack_Sparrow: dont see there correct command
[18:49] <DanDan> Tiyowan : oh thnx
[18:49] <ooktay> hello. is there a simple proxy, or simple port redirector that will forward 8080 into 80
[18:49] <fccf> swayed: np - please don't use enter key for > :;'"_----<these work great
[18:49] <ooktay> i know it is possible with iptables, mod_proxy etc
[18:49] <ooktay>  but i need a simple proggy
[18:49] <renagadex> Where do I put files to use the g++ compiler?
[18:49] <soundstream6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191019/
[18:49] <soundstream6> here
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kazagistar My first guess as to the source of your issues is that you have enabled the proposed repos.  Not something I would do.
[18:50] <swayed> fccf; What did you mean ? not to use < > ?
[18:50] <DanDan> Tiyowan : ok if I have 2 GHz .. is it recommended to install the 64bit version ?
[18:50] <ibeekman> Are you still there Titan8990?
[18:50] <[CERT]> is there an easy way to install Google earth?
[18:50] <Titan8990> ibeekman, yep
[18:50] <tiyowan> DanDan: I don't see any reason why you can't.
[18:50] <DanDan> Tiyowan : I'm a female so excuse my slowness in understanding the technology :P ..
[18:51] <ibeekman> Titan8990: did you get a chance to look at my previous comment?
[18:51] <Sebboh> [CERT], I heard that the medibuntu repo includes google earth, but I haven't tried it myself.
[18:51] <ibeekman> (The clarification)
[18:51] <tiyowan> DanDan: That's all right - is this going to be your first time trying out Ubuntu?
[18:51] <beagleburt> PROBLEM SOLVED: k-8.04 LTS: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/134771-solved-kaffeine-will-not-work-2.html
[18:51] <Pici> DanDan: I don't see what that would have to do with it...
[18:51] <Sebboh> [CERT], last I checked it was wine-voodoo, dunno if that's changed.
[18:51] <fccf> swayed  to clairfy ... please don't use enter key for punctuation ...
[18:51] <sky_1> Jack_Sparrow: can WinRar unrar tar.gz ?
[18:51] <Titan8990> ibeekman, how do you plan to backup drives you can't mount?
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !info file-roller
[18:51] <ibeekman> haha well thats problem number one is mounting the thing
[18:52] <topgun21> DanDan:IMHO 32 birt is better because It has flash,java and the fluendo mega pack plugins.
[18:52] <DanDan> tiyowan : no I started using it with Feisty Release .. :$
[18:52] <swayed> fccf, ok got ya - thanks for tip.
[18:52] <fccf> [CERT]: there are debs available for google earth to run natively
[18:52] <DanDan> topgun21 : Thank u :) yea I remember suffering from getting all that with a 64bit !
[18:52] <Visualante> lo #ubuntu. i need a flow chart software
[18:52] <tiyowan> soundstream6: The commands are wrong. :) Check carefully, please.
[18:52] <ibeekman> Titan8990: Yeah hopefully with fsck etc. I can repair/mount the filesystem.
[18:52] <soundstream6> ok
[18:52] <soundstream6> sleepy huhuh
[18:52] <rallEy4> I have a driver ~/rt2870sta.ko for my wireless USB adapter. When I load it with "sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko" I can immediately do "sudo ifconfig ra0 IP up" and it works fine. I am trying to make it load at boot time by adding it to /etc/modules and after a reboot "ra0" does not exist... can anyone help with this?
[18:52] <topgun21> Your welcome DanDan
[18:52] <kazagistar> Visualante: Dia?
[18:53] <DanDan> Tiyowan : thank you :D
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Visualante http://linuxappfinder.com/
[18:53] <Visualante> kazagistar: isn't it hard to learn though? the UI didn't seem very friendly to me
[18:53] <ibeekman> Titan8990: and worste cas scenario the home directory is backed up, but it would be great if I could preserve the user and group info
[18:53] <Visualante> i have an assignment deadline in 18 hours :)
[18:53] <tiyowan> DanDan: np - topgun21's suggestion is commendable.
[18:53]  * whatvn sleeps!
[18:54] <Artemis3> topgun21, thats silly 64 bit is better. There is 64 bit flash, there is 64 bit java, and fluendo is pointless when you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:54]  * whatvn says bye bye
[18:54] <fccf> [CERT]: instructions here - sorry it is binary https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !googleearth
[18:55] <kazagistar> Visualante: it took me about 10 min to figure out most of it, and I never used flow chart software before... but if you have advanced needs or are used to a different interface, it might be different
[18:55] <eightyeight> everytime i try 'gpg --keyserver http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371 --refresh-keys', it times out connecting to the keyserver. i've tried it without the port and with hkp:// any ideas?
[18:55] <Visualante> kazagistar: i don't have especially advanced needs. it's for a simple recursive C program. just needs a few tests and loops
[18:55] <Visualante> i'll give it another shot
[18:56] <en1gma> im following the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM and just did the "sudo mksquashfs /casper/chroot /casper/filesystem.squashfs -noappend -always-use-fragments" command (its making it as we speak)
[18:56] <Pici> eightyeight: Can you browse to that site with a regular browser? If not, perhaps that port is being blocked outbound wherever you are.
[18:56] <en1gma> anyhow my question is how do i make it bootabale iso
[18:56] <eurythmia> DanDan, it's entirely up to personal preference ... these days you shouldn't have any problems when it comes to 64 bit aplications ... things have matured A LOT of the past 2 or 3 years as far as that goes.
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> 64bit works great here
[18:56] <eightyeight> Pici: yes. i can browse to it
[18:56] <soundstream6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191025/
[18:56] <en1gma> i see there is a link on how to make a bootable iso but i want to keep the same one it has already dont i
[18:56] <soundstream6> here tiyowin
[18:56] <eurythmia> same here (on my 64 bit laptop, that is)
[18:57] <Artemis3> 64 bits is preferred, if you have more than 2gigs of ram, and it is faster too.
[18:57] <mainstream> hi all :]
[18:57] <fccf> hello mainstream
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Artemis3 4 gigs..
[18:57] <eurythmia> Artemis3, 4 gigs
[18:57] <tiyowan> soundstream6: Ok, restart and see if the problem has went away.
[18:57] <eurythmia> Jack_Sparrow, you beat me to it :)
[18:57] <mainstream> :D
[18:57] <mainstream> hi fccf
[18:57] <Artemis3> :P
[18:57] <soundstream6> ok
[18:57] <soundstream6> tq!
[18:58] <tvoet_> i'm having a weird Remote Desktop experience since my upgrade to Jaunty.  It's as if the screen won't refresh between actions ( i.e. if i do something, close the connection and then reconnect, the action happened ) but i will never see it on the original connection
[18:58] <kazagistar> I'll chime in... 64 bit works fine for me, though not everything can run without the compatibility libraries
[18:58] <mainstream> just a quick question, im using xchat, but i can't see a userlist :S
[18:58] <tvoet_> any ideas?
[18:58] <DanDan> Artemis3 : .. I only have 2GHz of ram .. as I've been told it wouldnt make a difference in my case
[18:58] <en1gma> anyone know that guide im talking about
[18:58] <Artemis3> well only if you need 32 bit binaries, then you can use the compatibility libs
[18:58] <en1gma> ubunto live cd toram
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> mainstream for future ref there is a channel   /join #xchat    but it is in the settings and config
[18:59] <mainstream> ok thanks
[18:59] <DanDan> Artemis3 : .. thank you for urs advise
[18:59] <mainstream> :D
[18:59] <DanDan> again thank you all for the help :D
[18:59] <Artemis3> it should be like 5% faster there DanDan
[18:59] <Artemis3> but thats ok
[18:59] <en1gma> i dont see a /boot/grub/menu.lst file at all in the live cd
[18:59] <Artemis3> i install 64bit even with 1gb, main reason, you can always upgrade your ram and no need to reinstall everything
[18:59] <en1gma> so i dont think i need to make one if it never had one to begin with
[19:00] <boris]> can some one help me whid mrtg ? l get strange reading from eth0 . send me a msg if you can help me
[19:00] <kazagistar> !ask > boris]
[19:00] <fccf> en1gma: there isn't a menu.lst because the live cd isn't using grub
[19:00] <fccf> !enter | en1gma
[19:02] <johnme> How do I connect directly to a playstation 3 ? Using cat6 crossover-cable
[19:02] <fccf> en1gma: the toram command causes the live cd to be copied into ram - eliminating the need for the live disk - also giving access to cdrom -- be sure to have plenty of ram
[19:03] <en1gma> i read that the toram option is broken
[19:03] <en1gma> in 9.04
[19:03] <kazagistar> johnme: either I did not understand your question, or you answered it yourself... what kind of connection do you want?
[19:03] <fccf> en1gma: I wouldn't know
[19:03] <boris]> on my mrtg (eth0 page l get strange reading , only in data and no out data. l am running torrentflux and download and seeding data now. so l know that the reading in mrtg is wrong. so my in and out data is not corrent. l have a w-lan card thats reading correct. by the way
[19:03] <en1gma> that is why im following a guide on 9.04 toram
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> en1gma Please see your PM
[19:04] <razerblk> any one know of a good avi to dvd converter program?
[19:04] <soundstream6> tiyowin how pastebin screenshots... i wanna show u sumtin...
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !info winff
[19:05] <razerblk> thanks jack
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:05] <kazagistar> razerblk: try avidemux
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> razerblk I thought k3b would take your avi and burn it but I dont do much of that sort of thing
[19:06] <jpaisneto> Hello. I just installed a newer version than the one in the repositories, by adding a new repository. If I want to install the ubuntu's repository version, should I just delete the new repositories and run update manager? Or uninstall the application I have, delete the repository and install it again, using the Ubuntu repository version? Thanks.
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !newest
[19:07] <felix__> !backports
[19:08] <fccf> jpaisneto: you can use package>force version in synaptic to use a different version of something if it is in a repository on your list
[19:08] <jpaisneto> Thanks, bye
[19:08] <localgod11> how can I make my mp3 stop skipping!
[19:08] <kazagistar> jpaisneto: you could try "apt pinning" or you can check out the aptitude interface, which makes it easy to select from multiple versions
[19:08] <fccf> kazagistar: he left
[19:09] <jpaisneto> I haven't left yet :s
[19:09] <fccf> oh.. more to learn then
[19:10] <zoli2k> Hi. I m connecting to terminal using 'cu'. Is there any alternative to 'cu' with readline/history support?
[19:10] <jpaisneto> Thanks, I got it now :D
[19:10] <jpaisneto> Bye, you're great
[19:12] <thebishop> server irc.whatnet.org
[19:13] <pajones> Hi, sometimes my wireless card will pause for 15-30s. It doesn't seem to send or receive packets
[19:13] <pajones> Does anyone has any ideas?
[19:13] <kamil> yes:)
[19:13] <kamil> hi
[19:14] <kamil> ime new is enybody here?
[19:14] <grawity> Yes.
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[19:15] <fccf> zoli2k: have you considered ssh?
[19:15] <kamil> what about we can talk?
[19:15] <tunnlrat> I just added a New HD thats currently formated for Fat32 i believe, was using it to run windows, how to i tell Linux to format it so i can make it into a linux drive
[19:15] <Pici> kamil: This is the Ubuntu support channel, if you do not have a support question you may /join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kamil This is ubuntu support only.. please see the link for other irc channels
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !irc
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted > tunnlrat
[19:16] <kamil> ime just like that without reason
[19:16] <felix__> anyone knows whats <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:16] <zoli2k> fccf: it is an embedded device. I need to access a serial communication line.
[19:16] <Vinceman> if you remove boddies from your pidgin can they still see if you're online or not?
[19:16] <zoli2k> fccf: I would like to have the readline/history functionality on the client side.
[19:17] <almost> I needto move a directory with one file with the same ownership and permission is the command line cp -Rp /source/ /destiny?
[19:17] <fccf> zoli2k: you can telnet over serial
[19:17] <deco> Vinceman, block and than delete
[19:18] <fccf> zoli2k: which is like ssh without the encryption - you woulld be able to scroll up in telnet
[19:18] <tunnlrat> Ahhhh i see is now Thank you Jack_Sparrow, i was looking in the wrong place but was using that program
[19:18] <F-3000> Hi! Can anyone help me regarding screen-doubling with laptop? I'm wondering what programs/libraries I should install to make it to work.
[19:19] <doc235> can't get epiphiny to d/l flash player . any ideas as to why?
[19:19] <tunnlrat> Okay problem with this GParted, the drive is currently formated for NTFS and it won't give me the option to delete or format it
[19:20] <fccf> tunnlrat: you need to install ntfs-3g
[19:20] <zoli2k> fccf: Unfortunately not. I call the device via bluetooth /dev/rfcomm device. Its not a IP based communication.
[19:21] <tunnlrat> Okay, I can access the drive and i copied everything off it that i wanted to keep
[19:21] <Elkhorn> had format problems with PC-OS formatting ntfs drive, used DBAN on UBCD to format first then worked fine.
[19:22] <kazagistar> doc235: you should download flash player from the repositories
[19:22] <tunnlrat> Ntfs-3g is already installed on this system
[19:22] <doc235> name to look for?
[19:22] <panfist> is it possible to enable xdmcp from the command line? i have ssh access to my box but i would like to get into an x environment
[19:22] <deco> doc235, after you download flash from the repositories flash should work on all browsers
[19:23] <Elkhorn> Hi folks, just wondering if anyone knows how to get Pocket PC (Win Mob 2003) to sync with PC-OS?
[19:23] <pajones> I'm using Intrepid and my wireless connection (iwlagn) seems to fail intermittently for 15-30s at a time as frequently as every couple of minutes. NetworkManager doesn't report that the connection has failed and there doesn't seem to be anything of note in syslog or wpa_supplicant.log. I have no idea where this bug could be located and I would like some help with debugging. I've looked at various bug reports (303802, 295414 - this bug seems the closest t
[19:23] <pajones> o my problem).
[19:23] <doc235> deco, what should i tell add to look for
[19:23] <deco> doc235, flash
[19:23] <doc235> ok
[19:23] <deco> doc235, download the one that has adobe flash something....
[19:24] <geirha> panfist: do you have an x server on your client? If so, ssh in with x-forwarding and run sudo gdm-setup
[19:24] <doc235> ok
[19:24] <Pici> Elkhorn: PC-OS?
[19:24] <kazagistar> doc235: flashplayer-installer
[19:24] <tunnlrat> To format this Ntfs drive, do i need to unmount it first??
[19:24] <doc235> ty
[19:24] <panfist> geirha i will try that thanks
[19:24] <geirha> panfist: Oops, sudo gdmsetup
[19:24] <kazagistar> tunnlrat: yes :P
[19:24] <Elkhorn> ubuntu heron based livecd.
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tunnlrat yes
[19:24] <tunnlrat> doh >.< maybe that was my problem then lol
[19:24] <fccf> zoli2k: i happen to know that a ppp connection can be setup over bluetooth - might be beyond the abilities of your device - i don't know
[19:24] <F-3000> This laptop has VGA-connector as built-in, I'm wondering what I should install to make the screen-doubling to work. With DSL I don't have to install anything, it works out of the box, but not with Ubuntu. Could someone help me with this? I'm not a beginner with linux, but I haven't been able to find suitable program from Synaptics.
[19:24] <Elkhorn> PC-OS labeled & logoed. but is Ubuntu hardy herron i think.
[19:25] <Pici> Elkhorn: We only support official Ubuntu releases here, moreover, I've never heard of that one.
[19:25] <ircleuser> Hello, I have a question on Auto-updates for Server 9.04.  During the install it asked if I wanted to turn on auto-updates, which I did.  My question is: how can I find out more info about what auto-updates is doing.  For instance, can I check when the machine last updated, or can I manually force auto-update to run?
[19:25] <Elkhorn> ahh, only dloaded it yesterday from distrowatch. looked interesting..
[19:26] <Elkhorn> very pretty, 64bit, running 64bit 2.8ghz single core P4.
[19:26] <pajones> F-3000: Can you not use the program found in System->Preferences->Screen resolution?
[19:26] <TrouserTrout> Hello, does anyone know why ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restart X with 0.04
[19:26] <MikeLOw> ..
[19:26] <Pici> !dontzap | TrouserTrout
[19:26] <sebsebseb> TrouserTrout: yes
[19:26] <TrouserTrout> 9.04
[19:27] <F-3000> pajones: No help from it, I've tried.
[19:27] <deco> TrouserTrout, you need to enable it via xorg.conf , you don't to install additional software
[19:27] <F-3000> pajones: With two different laptops.
[19:27] <rallEy4> cabrey: When I load rt2870sta.ko with "sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko" I can immediately do "sudo ifconfig ra0 IP up" and it works fine. When added to /etc/modules, after a reboot "ra0" does not exist... any ideas?
[19:27] <TrouserTrout> why was it taken away?
[19:27] <kazagistar> TrouserTrout: because people kept pressing it when they didn't mean to and accidentally shooting themselves in the foot
[19:28] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[19:28] <TrouserTrout> so instead of doing all that is there another way to restart x im new to linux
[19:28] <pajones> F-3000: hmm...  that's strange. try this command in a terminal window: xrandr --output VGA --auto
[19:29] <deco> TrouserTrout,  Section "ServerFlags" option "DontZap" "false" EndSection
[19:29] <Elkhorn> Will go get a proper ubuntu, what would you reccommend for 64bit hardware?
[19:29] <davidh38> guys, has anyone experience with linux mint? Is it really thousand times better than ubuntu?
[19:29] <sebsebseb> Elkhorn: the 64bit version of Ubuntu
[19:29] <sebsebseb> Elkhorn: how much RAM you got by the way?
[19:29] <kazagistar> TrouserTrout: logging out and back in restarts X, I think
[19:29] <guntbert> !ot | davidh38
[19:29] <rallEy4> cabrey: When I load rt2870sta.ko with "sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko" I can immediately do "sudo ifconfig ra0 IP up" and it works fine. When added to /etc/modules, after a reboot "ra0" does not exist... any ideas?
[19:30] <fccf> F-3000: depending on what kind of chip (videocard) the laptop  has you may need to install drivers .. can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[19:30] <deco> davidh38, no it just has some codecs pre installed
[19:30] <Elkhorn> running 2Gb of 800mRIMMS
[19:30] <deco> davidh38, almost the same thing really just a nice theme
[19:30] <cabrey> rallEy4, what have you added to /etc/modules exactly
[19:30] <sebsebseb> Elkhorn: ok put the 64bit version on,  oh and if you want things even faster  I suggest the optional Ext4 file system
[19:30] <trippssss> anyone have quick instructions of how to install ocrad on intrepid?
[19:30] <TrouserTrout> k letme try to logg out brb.. i have to fix this overscan problem that i got with new nvidia drivers with hdmi tv brb
[19:30] <Intrepd> Elkhorn, just wondering - you said you had a pentium 4 running a 64bit os?
[19:30] <davidh38> deco: just that? i heard that the menu would even be different
[19:30] <deco> davidh38, uses the same repositories as ubuntu might as well use the real thing
[19:31] <deco> davidh38, yeah thats what i kinda ment by theme
[19:31] <Elkhorn> seems to go well,
[19:31] <rallEy4> cabrey: rt2870sta, which is the file that was copied in /lib/modules/'uname -r'... etc
[19:31] <davidh38> deco: thx i see, is it possible to install the mint theme under ubuntu?
[19:31] <randomn3ss> hey can anyone help me with a weird error I get when mounting my nokia cellphone?
[19:31] <Elkhorn> have tried 6 differnet linux distros for 64bit so far they all better than vista :)
[19:31] <kazagistar> davidh38: it is slightly better configured at the start... nice color scheme, smaller interface, comes with gnome-do and some codecs.... but that is like 10 min to fix in ubuntu, if it comes to that
[19:31] <cabrey> rallEy4, that might be the problem, it is `uname -r` not 'uname -r'
[19:31] <rallEy4> cabrey: it loads the module, but that interface doesn't exist.
[19:32] <deco> davidh38, yeah it should be possible
[19:32] <deco> davidh38, nothing special really
[19:32] <trippssss> or any suggestions for OCR program for intrepid would be helpful
[19:32] <fccf> !anyone |randomn3ss
[19:32] <cabrey> rallEy4, are you relying on that module for network?
[19:32] <rallEy4> cabrey: no, it is my kernel release. The only one that exists.
[19:32] <randomn3ss> I googled it but couldn't come up with anything
[19:32] <randomn3ss> dmesg gives me FAT: invalid media value (0x3b
[19:32] <rallEy4> cabrey: Yes.
[19:33] <davidh38> deco: well i think i am gonna try it
[19:33] <Elkhorn> cheers for help, dloading proper ubuntu64, cheers for fs tip, will give it a go..
[19:33] <cabrey> rallEy4, do you have another computer you can use? because you can remove the module while the system is on
[19:33] <deco> davidh38, yeah try it, than if you like well keep on using it :P
[19:33] <rallEy4> cabrey: I could go back through the process, and document the exact messages if that would help.
[19:33] <sebsebseb> Elkhorn: something you may want to be aware of though is this,  if you resize it might get some issue
[19:33] <sebsebseb> Elkhorn: otherwise with a clean install should be fine,  check out the release notes for a bit more about what I am refering to.
[19:34] <sebsebseb> !notes |  Elkhorn
[19:34] <F-3000> pajones: Nothing happened. fccf: http://pastebin.com/d62603a50
[19:34] <fccf> randomn3ss: does the phone have a microSD in it ... you might have better luck just mounting the SD
[19:34] <Revelation> Hey
[19:34] <randomn3ss> ya it is a microSD
[19:34] <cabrey> rallEy4, ok to remove the module, sudo rmmod rt2870sta, then try sudo modprobe rt2870sta and see if the interface is there
[19:34] <randomn3ss> but I don't have a SD slot on my computer so....
[19:34] <Revelation> Can someone help me on dual-booting ubuntu onto vista 64?
[19:34] <rallEy4> cabrey: Currently, I do not have my laptop with me, so this is my other computer ATM.
[19:34] <kazagistar> davidh38: bad news... it takes a nasty hack to free firefox from the ugly "custom" mint search results page that gives them money per hit
[19:34] <randomn3ss> I tried hexediting it to a real value
[19:34] <randomn3ss> but then it just corrupted the filesystem so I switched it back
[19:34] <Shirakawasuna> hey guys, I'm having a problem right now w/ my eeepc + eeebuntu.  I'm hoping my question will still be reasonable.  Sometimes (I'd say it's 50/50), when I start it up, I get this message: 'Your home directory is listed as: '/home/amy' but it does not appear to exist.' [...] I can switch to VT1 and see that indeed, /dev/sdb1 is not automounted like it should be.  Any ideas on troubelshooting this?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> Revelation: onto Vista?
[19:34] <Shirakawasuna> sometimes it *does* work
[19:35] <rallEy4> cabrey: *only
[19:35] <Oasisbhrnw> Hello.  I just installed Ubuntu Server 9.04.  During the install there was an option to turn auto-updates on, which I did.  My question is, is there anyway to check when auto-updates last ran and/or is there a way to make it run manually?
[19:35] <sebsebseb> Revelation: you mean a virtual machine?  or an actsaul daul boot with a boot loader?
[19:35] <Shirakawasuna> note that I'm using an sd card for /home
[19:35] <cabrey> rallEy4, oh so you can't test anything right now?
[19:35] <fccf> F-3000: you have a radeon see !ati
[19:35] <Revelation> Erm im not sure   Just so I have ubuntu and vista on the computer
[19:35] <Revelation> i believe its called dual-booting
[19:35] <fccf> !ati |F-3000
[19:35] <sebsebseb> Revelation: yep it is
[19:35] <Shirakawasuna> the fstab line for it is: /dev/sdb1 /home  ext3   relatime    0   1
[19:35] <Revelation> mmk
[19:35] <deco> kazagistar, oh yeah the nast search , that was so lame of them to do that
[19:35] <rallEy4> cabrey: not live, I will have to shutdown and go through those steps.
[19:35] <Revelation> sebsebseb gimmie a tut =D
[19:35] <sebsebseb> Revelation: the other  thing that can be done is run the other OS inside a virtual machine, but in that case, really Windows is better as a guest than as a host, unless your 3D Windows gaming or some such
[19:35] <cabrey> rallEy4, why would you have to shut down?
[19:36] <Elkhorn> excellent! many thanks, will read up on it and have a go. :)  I normally use DBAN to wipe drives before new installs, so should be good, will check out FS notes :) many thanks.
[19:36] <rallEy4> cabrey: That will not be a problem though. I will try what you said.
[19:36] <sebsebseb> Revelation: only thing with VIsta is that you need to let it resize itself
[19:36] <Revelation> what do you mean?
[19:36] <rallEy4> cabrey: I may not have to, but that's the only way that I know to simulate the problem.
[19:36] <sebsebseb> Revelation: otherwise  dataloss might happen.  then  dual booting as normal
[19:36] <trippssss> trying to configure ; make a package in intrepid. giving me parser errors/command not found. what's the best toolkit for making binaries from source?
[19:36] <cabrey> rallEy4, you don't have to reboot to remove the module from the kernel
[19:37] <randomn3ss> FAT: invalid media value (0x3b) when mounting a Nokia. Anyone have an idea?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Revelation: are you on Vista right now?
[19:37] <Revelation> yeah
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Revelation: ok good
[19:37] <fccf> randomn3ss: USB SD card adaptors are really really cheap ... like $5 - consider getting one
[19:37] <rallEy4> cabrey: okay, but I will have to disconnect in the mean time.
[19:37] <cabrey> rallEy4, lsmod will list all the modules currently loaded, rmmod will remove one
[19:37] <Revelation> sebsebseb ill pm you
[19:37] <phoenixz> Revelation: and on an ubuntu channel... tsk tsk tsk.. ;)
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Revelation: right click computer and go to   disk management
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Revelation: why pm can do this here
[19:37] <F-3000> fccf: I have ATI drivers installed and in use.
[19:37] <Revelation> alright
[19:37] <cabrey> rallEy4, modprobe will load one from its proper place and insmod will load one from an unusual play
[19:37] <cabrey> rallEy4, place*
[19:38] <TrouserTrout> Well i logged out back in and lost x. I had to restart using generic and now when I go to nvidia x server settings I can't use it. does anyone know how to restart x with nvidia x server settings?
[19:38] <Revelation> ok wait what do you want me to do?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> !pm |  Revelation
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Revelation: yeah what the bot put as well, what I am saying could be useful for someone else as well
[19:38] <fccf> F-3000: google ati dualhead ubuntu
[19:38] <rallEy4> cabrey: Oh, okay.
[19:38] <Revelation> ok
[19:39] <sebsebseb> Revelation: right cilck computer on the start menu.   go to  diskmanagement or computer management
[19:39] <trippssss> sudo apt-get install gocr giving me Package gocr is not available, but is referred to by another package. how to install? using intrepid ibex
[19:39] <rallEy4> cabrey: Well lsmod shows: rt2870sta             543064  1
[19:39] <Revelation> umm dude what? lol
[19:39] <Revelation> i dont see diskmanaggerment
[19:39] <cabrey> rallEy4, run ifconfig -a
[19:39] <Revelation> management*
[19:39] <sebsebseb> Revelation: hummm
[19:39] <TrouserTrout> do I need to reinstall nvidia drivers? when I go to nvidia x server settings it says u appear to have lost x server settings. try using root nvidia-xconfig and restart x
[19:40] <Suhail> Why do I have to do eval `ssh-agent`, ssh-add <key> everytime I try to ssh into my server, why isn't it saving these settings?
[19:40] <Revelation> got it
[19:40] <Revelation> Computer Managerment =D
[19:40] <Shirakawasuna> anyone have any ideas?
[19:40] <rallEy4> cabrey: It shows eth0, lo, pan0, ra0
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Revelation: if when resizing and you don't put in a size, it will probably make it as small as it can go
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Revelation: yeah  Computer Management, I am not on Vista right now ;)
[19:40] <sebsebseb> :)
[19:40] <Shirakawasuna> Why a /home partition on an sdcard would someones be listed as 'not found' and not mounted?
[19:40] <djp> does ubuntu keep an installation log of an initial install?
[19:40] <Revelation> sebsebseb should I backup stuff first?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Revelation: no need to
[19:40] <rallEy4> cabrey: but see, after I rebooted trying to let /etc/modules load it, the ra0 interface is gone.
[19:40] <Revelation> ok
[19:40] <cabrey> rallEy4, ok use rmmod to remove rt2870sta (this will disconnect you), run ifconfig -a again
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Revelation: if it goes wrong,  which is unlikely, but if it does you really can blame Microsoft, because then it really is there fault
[19:41] <Revelation> ok
[19:41] <cabrey> rallEy4, then rmmod it again, then insmod rt2870sta.ko to get back here
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Revelation: since it's there tool and everything
[19:41] <rallEy4> cabrey: okay
[19:41] <panfist> geirha thanks that was just what i needed to get started
[19:41] <Revelation> sebsebseb now what
[19:41] <tunnlrat> Alright i am still trying to Format this NTFS partition, when i unmount it, it causes GParted to hang any ideas?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Revelation: when resizing  and  if you don't put in a size as I was saying,   it should  get resized to as small as it will go
[19:41] <the_archit3ct> Im goin, byebye !
[19:42] <Revelation> sebsebseb im in computer managerment
[19:42] <sebsebseb> Revelation: yes resize your Windows partiton, like I just said
[19:42] <sebsebseb> Revelation: well do you need to make space for Ubuntu?
[19:42] <alesan> hi I need help to pair with my bluetoothmouse
[19:42] <Revelation> no
[19:42] <alesan> it worked before installing 9.04
[19:43] <Revelation> I have two harddrvies
[19:43] <Revelation> each 220gb
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Revelation: ok I  thought you needed to
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Revelation: fine you don't need to resize that partition then
[19:43] <fccf> tunnlrat: you might try unmounting from cli ... sudo umount /media/disk-#
[19:43] <Revelation> sebsebseb how long will you be here?
[19:43] <tavi> a aplication where webcam works?
[19:43] <Revelation> i gotta go for 20min
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Revelation: is that why you were like,  what? when I first started saying about that?
[19:43] <Revelation> lol yeah
[19:43] <fccf> tunnlrat: then restart gparted
[19:44] <sebsebseb> Revelation: ok putting Ubuntu on is pretty easy
[19:44] <Revelation> sebsebseb will you be here in 20min?
[19:44] <fccf> tavi: cheese .. camorama .. camstream?
[19:44] <tunnlrat> okay i did try restarting the computer with the ntfs drive unmounted to begin with but it still made GParted hand when i tried to load it
[19:44] <sebsebseb> Revelation: it  can also read  and write to the Windows partition, and yes I will be
[19:44] <tavi> what si teh best
[19:44] <tavi> ?
[19:44] <Revelation> ok
[19:44] <Revelation> ill be back
[19:44] <Revelation> be
[19:44] <ninjafury> I'm running Jaunty amd64 with nvidia drivers on my laptop. I can't get it to auto-suspend properly, it gives me a blank screen with a cursor but doesn't suspend. It does work when I click 'suspend' though. How can I get auto-suspend working?
[19:44] <Revelation> bye
[19:44] <FloodBot2> Revelation: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <sebsebseb> !best |  tavi
[19:44] <RFXCasey> is this the help chat
[19:44] <fccf> !best | tavi
[19:44] <sebsebseb> RFXCasey: yes
[19:44] <Shirakawasuna> gah
[19:45] <sebsebseb> RFXCasey: if you would like help with something, just  ask a question
[19:45] <tavi> they are like messenger
[19:45] <tavi> ?
[19:45] <fccf> tunnlrat: perhaps try from live cd
[19:45] <Shirakawasuna> my /home is on removable media, but it *should* be mounting at /boot due to the settings in my fstab.  Can anyone help me figure out why it isn't loading at boot?  Perhaps because it's an sdcard, it isn't always recognized in time?
[19:45] <Shirakawasuna> df -h shows it as non-mounted at boot
[19:46] <Shirakawasuna> it was working a lot better before, too.....
[19:46] <rallEy4> cabrey: Okay, so when the module was removed the interface ra0 was gone. When load rt2870sta via modprobe, the ra0 is not listed. I have to load the one from ~ before it will show the ra0 interface.
[19:46] <F-3000> fccf: I digged out command "aitconfig", it helped me out. :)
[19:46] <Splex_> how do i check my hdd for bad blocks?
[19:46] <Myrtti> Shirakawasuna: you're mixing /boot with boot...
[19:46] <F-3000> fccf: I mean, "aticonfig".
[19:46] <Splex_> surface scan
[19:46] <Shirakawasuna> Myrtti: sorry, I mean /home
[19:46] <ninjafury> Can anyone please help?
[19:46] <Shirakawasuna> Myrtti: my /home partition is on an sdcard
[19:46] <sebsebseb> !details |  ninjafury
[19:47] <tavi> i do not find this cheese
[19:47] <tavi> where is it?
[19:47] <ninjafury> sebsebseb, I'm running Jaunty amd64 with nvidia drivers on my laptop. I can't get it to auto-suspend properly, it gives me a blank screen with a cursor but doesn't suspend. It does work when I click 'suspend' though. How can I get auto-suspend working?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> tavi: you have cheese maybe in your fridge :)   seriously though  run  this in the terminal.  sudo apt-get install cheese
[19:47] <fccf> !info cheese |tavi
[19:47] <tonii> Anyone know if it's possible to use LG KP500 as a GPRS modem in Ubuntu?
[19:47] <tavi> a meesenger like program that have webcam?
[19:48] <MorbrorFultjack> is it possible to bind mouse3 to close windows?
[19:48] <Shirakawasuna> maybe I'll just hack it and add `mount /dev/sdb1/ to rc.local
[19:48] <sebsebseb> ninjafury: xorg and suspend hummmm   hopefuly someone else will help you with those
[19:48] <swayed> Is there a way to get Kwave Sound Editor to support .mp3 files / ?
[19:48] <tavi> a meesenger like program that have webcam?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> !xorg > ninjafury
[19:48] <fccf> tonii: you will need to use wvdial ... and a custom script .. I can help you with that in pm
[19:48] <sebsebseb> tavi: AMSN
[19:49] <DIFH-iceroot> is it normal that apache2-threads are running with PR 15 or 16(nice)? its killing my system
[19:49] <sebsebseb> tavi: MSN only
[19:49] <ryan__> Hello, im new to ubuntu!
[19:49] <cabrey> rallEy4, did you run ifconfig -a after using modprobe?
[19:49]  * Shirakawasuna kicks the eee pc
[19:49] <fosco__> wellcome ryan__
[19:49] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  ryan__
[19:49] <cabrey> rallEy4, also after running modprobe did you lsmod to make sure it was actually loaded?
[19:49] <ryan__> i need some refreshers anyway... did use ubuntu when it was hardy
[19:49] <tonii> fccf: that would be nice.
[19:49] <RFXCasey> I need to save files from a unbootable ubuntu install ext partition. The grub loader is messed up. I am going to reinstall the whole machine but want to say some files first. I boot from a live cd but and can see the ext partition but when I try to access it it tells me I am not the owner and don't have the proper permission. I have tried logging into the cd as root but it doesn't work?
[19:49] <ryan__> if i listed some of the functions i need for this could people recommend packages?
[19:49] <sebsebseb> !guide |  ryan__
[19:50] <kerlo> Ello. I'm playing a YouTube video in Firefox under Ubuntu, and it sounds like the sound buffer is constantly underrunning or something. Sound plays very slowly but at its normal pitch and choppily, like a crudely slowed-down sound file.
[19:50] <rallEy4> cabrey: Yes, I did both. And lsmod showed the module and it said used by 0.
[19:50]  * cabrey cleans the eee pc
[19:50] <savid> Has anyone noticed that with a dual-monitor setup,  new desktop icons are placed in "dead-space" when the left monitor is smaller  (so they cannot be seen)?  Is there a fix for this?
[19:50] <tavi> can in install that msn whit sudo?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> tavi: no need to pm,  and yes do this   sudo apt-get install amsn
[19:50] <ryan__> !guide
[19:50] <cabrey> rallEy4, after you use insmod and lsmod, does it say used by something?
[19:50] <palin> HI all! Does anyone know when the arm base netbooks are coming out? I have search but can not find a date.
[19:50] <pajones> I'm using Intrepid and my wireless connection (iwlagn) seems to fail intermittently for 15-30s at a time as frequently as every couple of minutes. NetworkManager doesn't report that the connection has failed and there doesn't seem to be anything of note in syslog or wpa_supplicant.log. I have no idea where this bug could be located and I would like some help with debugging. I've looked at various bug reports (303802, 295414 - this bug seems the closest t
[19:50] <pajones> o my problem).
[19:51] <Pici> pajones: ##hardware would be a better place to ask. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only.
[19:51] <noe_adam> help
[19:51] <maco> topgun21, um, so you know, adobe makes 64bit flash available *only* for Linux and not for Windows or OSX...also, there's a 64bit Java plugin, and i'm not sure what you mean about fluendo...I've never had any codec issues on 64bit
[19:51] <noe_adam> #ubuntu
[19:51] <ryan__> I could do with an IDE that supports various languages but specifically vb.net and c++ if anyone knows of some good ones? also could do with a media player :)
[19:51] <rallEy4> cabrey: Yes, it shows a 1 under used now.
[19:51] <ruadh> Can anyone recommend a good irc client for Ubuntu server 9.04?
[19:51] <RFXCasey> I need to save files from a unbootable ubuntu install ext partition. The grub loader is messed up. I am going to reinstall the whole machine but want to say some files first. I boot from a live cd  and can see the ext partition but when I try to access it it tells me I am not the owner and don't have the proper permission. I have tried logging into the cd as root but it doesn't work?
[19:51] <kerlo> noe_adam: if you want an answer to a question, I highly recommend that you ask it. It helps a lot.
[19:51] <RichiH> irssi
[19:51] <cabrey> !best | ruadh
[19:51] <RichiH> and screen
[19:51] <Pici> noe_adam: You're already here. Just ask a question.
[19:52] <pajones> Pici: thanks
[19:52] <tavi> sebsebseb works whit yahoo account?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> tavi: no
[19:52] <palin> ruadh xirc is good I use pidgin
[19:53] <rallEy4> cabrey: which would reflect that ra0 is using it, correct?
[19:53] <F-3000> fccf, but can you tell me why Ubuntu doesn't have doubleheading enabled automatically? Other laptop I got clones the screen without any sort of confing with DSL, but not with Ubuntu.
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tavi: also Yahoo...  now I have a story,   I used to be rather loyal to them untill that,   pm if your interested
[19:53] <tavi> something that works whit webcam and is like pidgin? working whit yahoo accounts?
[19:53] <chiffre> RFXCasey: boot from LiveCD and mount partitions?
[19:53] <palin> HI all! Does anyone know when the arm base netbooks are coming out? I have search but can not find a date.
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tavi: maybe a development version of Pidgin does web cam, but I am not sure
[19:53] <Pici> palin: ##hardware would be a better place to ask. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only.
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> palin That would be offtopic. ty
[19:53] <RFXCasey> I need to save files from a unbootable ubuntu install ext partition. The grub loader is messed up. I am going to reinstall the whole machine but want to say some files first. I boot from a live cd  and can see the ext partition but when I try to access it it tells me I am not the owner and don't have the proper permission. Maybe I could just reinstall grub?
[19:54] <Pici> pajones: I actually meant that message for someone else, sorry.
[19:54] <cabrey> rallEy4, not exactly, when you use modprobe, it could be a different network interface like wlan0
[19:54] <F-3000> fccf: Errr, not doubleheading, but dualheading.
[19:54] <Suhail> Why do I have to do eval `ssh-agent`, ssh-add <key> everytime I try to ssh into my server, why isn't it saving these settings?
[19:54] <rallEy4> cabrey: oh
[19:54] <cabrey> F-3000, do you mean dual screens?
[19:54] <tavi> sebsebseb what is the latest version of pidgin?
[19:55] <RFXCasey> chiffre, I can see the partition I just don't have permission to access the files
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !info pidgin
[19:55] <Shirakawasuna> RFXCasey: you could, but you should be able to access it from the livecd
[19:55] <timostk> hello.. I'm having trouble getting my dns clache to clear on one of my boxes.  I'm using ubuntu 9.04.. I just moved a domain from one host to another.. only one of my boxes 'sees' the change.  any ideas?
[19:55] <rallEy4> cabrey: well, the problem seems to be coming from whether or not I load the driver that's in ~ vs. the one in /lib/modules/...
[19:55] <Shirakawasuna> RFXCasey: if it's necessary, sudo su in the livecd to access the files.
[19:55] <cabrey> rallEy4, thats why when you used modprobe, run ifconfig -a to see if another interface popped up instead of ra0
[19:55] <tavi> i have
[19:55] <tavi> Pidgin 2.4.1
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Shirakawasuna that should not be nneded
[19:55] <tavi> so how i install new versions
[19:55] <tavi> ?
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !newest
[19:55] <sebsebseb> tavi: yeah there's the oen in Ubuntu, but   you can probably get a ppa for even later,  and then of course compile your own
[19:55] <RFXCasey> shira;
[19:56] <rallEy4> cabrey: Yea, it shows the same interfaces, minus the ra0.
[19:56] <cabrey> rallEy4, well we can forego the proper way to load modules if you want ;)
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tavi: ,but  I don't even know if those versions have web cam suppourt
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tavi: I think they might,  ask in #pidgin
[19:56] <tavi> errr
[19:56] <RFXCasey> how do I get this to auto fill in the rest of someones name I forgot?
[19:56] <tavi> so is a way to see webcam in linux?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> tab
[19:56] <dajhorn> RFXCasey: You may need to use `sudo -i` at a prompt, or `gksudo` in at the desktop to access the filesystem.
[19:56] <grawity> RFXCasey: You type the beginning, and press Tab.
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tavi: well Yahoo and Linux is hummm,  but  Yahoo  aren't that good anyway
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tavi: I meant web cam and Yahoo
[19:57] <cabrey> rallEy4, put the module in a safe place (or just use the one in /lib/modules/...) and run gksu gedit /etc/rc.local
[19:57] <rallEy4> cabrey: If you have the patience, I would love to learn.
[19:57] <tavi> you meant what? that yahoo and webcam does not udnerstand?
[19:57] <RFXCasey> dajhorn, how to I do it so I have access using the gui?
[19:57] <F-3000> cabrey: I don't know correct term, but what I succeeded with is cloning the laptop's screen on external monitor (TV on this case).
[19:57] <Shirakawasuna> Jack_Sparrow: depends on what kind of session of livecd he's in...
[19:57] <cabrey> F-3000, mirroring displays
[19:57] <Shirakawasuna> blah, bbl
[19:58] <sebsebseb> tavi: webcam and Yahoo is  hummm on Linux,  as in  maybe not really any programs that do it,   also I personally don't like Yahoo that much anymore, but that's something else
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Shirakawasuna sudo su ia almost never needed
[19:58] <rallEy4> cabrey: okay, I have it open.
[19:59] <F-3000> pajones, fccf and cabrey: thanks for your help today. :)
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey try gksudo nautilus
[19:59] <cabrey> rallEy4, ok first put a comment in after the other text, but before exit 0 (like this: # say something here) so that you know what this line does for your future self :)
[19:59] <RFXCasey> Jack_Sparrow, I do this at the terminal I assume
[19:59] <dajhorn> RFXCasey: What Jack_Sparrow said.
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[19:59] <sebsebseb> tavi: why must you have web cam suppourt on Yahoo?
[20:00] <rallEy4> cabrey: okay
[20:00] <cabrey> rallEy4, for example: # this command loads the network/wireless driver
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey That is a very very dangerous tool. it is not forgiving if you make a mistake, shut down that term as soon as you get your work done
[20:00] <tavi> well someone send me a invitation to webcam
[20:00] <tavi> and i cannot accept
[20:00] <rallEy4> cabrey: under the comment, place the rt2870sta line?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> tavi: if  it is so important another solution could be this.   to run Windows in a virtual machine for Yahoo Messenger,  and as long as your computer has enough RAM.   also maybe Yahoo Messenger and Wine if you configure, as far as I know it won't just work in Wine
[20:01] <cabrey> rallEy4, then underneath that put /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/kernel_version_here/kernel/drivers/net/rt2870sta.ko
[20:01] <cabrey> rallEy4, also make sure that gedit doesn't word wrap it to the next line
[20:02] <cabrey> rallEy4, and make sure you replace kernel_version_here with actual running kernel (most likely 2.6.28-11-generic)
[20:02] <tavi> well
[20:02] <tavi> that's
[20:02] <tavi> ugly
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > tavi
[20:03] <sebsebseb> tavi: nah that's clever, and  vm's are pretty sweet really :)
[20:03] <sebsebseb> tavi: Virtualbox is one of the programs that do them, and it's great
[20:03] <Vinceman> so iptables is the firewall, firefox is the gui of the firewall...
[20:03] <RFXCasey> Jack_Sparrow, it's telling me unable to add monitor
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey Did it bring up nautilus?
[20:03] <rallEy4> cabrey: Okay, everything has been complete.
[20:04] <Aiween> hi
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Aiween: hi
[20:04] <RFXCasey> Jack_Sparrow,
[20:04] <Vinceman> my three dots indicated a question
[20:04] <cabrey> rallEy4, ok paste everything that you typed in that file into pastebin so we can be sure i didnt screw anything up
[20:04] <RFXCasey> Jack_Sparrow, yeah
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey see if you can read your hd install
[20:04] <maco> Vinceman, what? firefox is a web browser
[20:05] <Vinceman> I meant firestarter, sorry
[20:05] <RFXCasey> Jack_Sparrow, I don't see it off hand
[20:05] <maco> Vinceman, yes, but i think there's a move toward gufw since it's under more active development
[20:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Vinceman: gufw is much better
[20:05] <Vinceman> !gufw
[20:05] <rallEy4> cabrey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191074/
[20:05] <Revelation> back
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey You should be able to browse your mounted HD system
[20:05] <Vinceman> why would people want to hack your PC?
[20:06] <cabrey> !info gufw
[20:06] <localgod11> how can I make my mp3 stop skipping!
[20:06] <Revelation> hey sebsebseb im back
[20:06] <cabrey> rallEy4, and if you run uname -r in the terminal, 2.6.28-11-generic is the result?
[20:06] <sebsebseb> Revelation: yeah I know you pm'd
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> localgod11 Rephrase your question.. give details about which flavor/release of ubuntu and what sound card and if you have tried with effects off andd so forth
[20:06] <rallEy4> cabrey: correct
[20:06] <grawity> Vinceman: Possible reasons: Unencrypted passwords for your credit card. Ability to use your computer to send spam, without you knowing. Fun. And others...
[20:07] <cabrey> rallEy4, ok then that looks good. remove the entry from /etc/modules, save this & reboot
[20:08] <Vinceman> is it possible to spoof your e-mailaddress if it's not sent from your e-mailaccount?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[20:08] <rallEy4> cabrey: before I do, I have another question... would it be incorrect to place the "/sbin/insmod path_to_driver" in /etc/modules?
[20:08] <maco> Vinceman, http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/05/the_scrap_value_of_a_hacked_pc.html
[20:08] <cabrey> rallEy4, yes
[20:08] <rallEy4> cabrey: okay, just checking.
[20:08] <maco> Vinceman, of course it is. spoofing mail headers is easy. heck, KMail lets you type any ol' random thing into the From header
[20:09] <rallEy4> cabrey: I shall return directly.
[20:09] <RFXCasey_> Jack_Sparrow, Ok let me start over when I gksudo nautilus it say nautilus share message: Called "net usershare info" but failed 'net usershare' returned error 255 : net usershare : cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error no such file or directory please ask your system admin to enable user sharing
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey_ yes, that will always happen
[20:10] <localgod11> 8.10, Intel HDA, no effects, uninstalled pulse audio, have sounf preferences set to HDA Intel (ALSA), HDA Intel (Alsa), auto detect, HDA Intel (Alsa), Alsa mixer, but my mp3's still skip
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> localgod11 Maybe time to ask in   /join #alsa
[20:11] <RFXCasey_> Jack_Sparrow, but I don't see the directory I'm looking for do I have to mount the drive now
[20:11] <RFXCasey_> Jack_Sparrow, it's already mounted as far as I can tell
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey_ mount the drive or browse to it
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey_ How did you mount it
[20:12] <localgod11> Jack_Sparrow: Brilliant
[20:13] <RFXCasey_> Jack_Sparrow, if I use gnome when the live cd starts I can see the drive called media I want to get to
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> localgod11 Run the script that they suggest so it will be available when alsa asks
[20:13] <localgod11> Jack_Sparrow: I dont see a script listed
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey_ ok and if you gksudo nautilus that should get you past the permissions issue
[20:14] <RFXCasey__> Jack_Sparrow, but when I enter nautilus like you described I see root desktop filesystem network and trash
[20:16] <djp> does ubuntu keep a log file of the initial install and if yes, where?
[20:16] <rallEy4> cabrey: All systems are go!
[20:16] <cabrey> rallEy4, it worked?
[20:16] <RFXCasey__> Jack_Sparrow, you still with me?
[20:17] <rallEy4> cabrey: yup yep
[20:17] <cabrey> rallEy4, yay!
[20:17] <pkt> how does the livecd set the timezone?
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey__ yes, but also helping someone else in another channel.
[20:18] <tonii> is wvdail part of the default installation, or will I have to install it separately?
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> RFXCasey__ type mount in term and see if your old os is in there
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[20:19] <rjune_> RFXCasey__: that's a normal thing to see when you do gksudo nautilus
[20:19] <tonii> thanks, I'll look into it
[20:20]  * felix__ has built a homeserver ^^
[20:23] <Jack_Sparrow> rjune_ ty, I am spread kinda thin atm
[20:23] <Amnesia> does anyone know some stuff 'bout grub?
[20:23] <tonii> well, time to try if wvdial likes my phone. bye and thanks :)
[20:24] <zoom> Amnesia, what do you need ?
[20:24] <Amnesia> could someone help me with my problem?
[20:24] <nathan7> theblind: =0
[20:24] <nathan7> zoom: He forgot =p
[20:24] <Amnesia> zoom, after I tried to upgrade to grub2
[20:24] <zoom> :)
[20:24] <Amnesia> zoom, I got the error unrecognized device string
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !info grub2
[20:25] <Amnesia> zoom, I'm sure the UUID''s right, so I havent got a clue whats wrong with it
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Amnesia did you use the version from our repo or another.. sorry I am leaving now but had to ask
[20:25] <zoom> do you have an error number ?
[20:25] <Amnesia> zoom, error 11
[20:25] <Amnesia> Jack_Sparrow: yup the ones from the repos
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Amnesia and please let people know if single or multiple drive system
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[20:26] <Amnesia> okay:p
[20:26] <gabriel> hello
[20:26] <Amnesia> well it's a single drive with 2 partitions on it
[20:27] <Amnesia> zoom, I've already tried to reinstall grub without any success
[20:27] <gabriel> I have a Logitech Connect webcam but i cant make it work in ubuntu, I have the 9.04 Ubuntu, how can I make it work?
[20:27] <Visualante> reinstall Windows
[20:27] <Amnesia> gabriel: already tried cheese?
[20:27] <zoom> have you edited menu.lst ?
[20:27] <sparr> Is there a tool that will try different resolution/refresh rate combos and have me accept/reject them to create an Xorg.conf?  X's autodetection works about 99% of the time for me, but occasionally I end up in a mode that my monitor doesn't support and I have to restart X, I'd like that to not happen any more.
[20:27] <Amnesia> zoom, nope
[20:27] <tavi> someone help me to install gyache?
[20:27] <gabriel> Yes, I already tried cheese but it doesnt recognize it
[20:27] <Amnesia> zoom, Ive checked it for errors though but cant see anything wrong
[20:28] <chocobo-kun> i love ubuntu because is better than windos an a cheap copy  of mac
[20:28] <chocobo-kun> i want to fight
[20:28] <behemoth> agree with chocobo-kun
[20:28] <chocobo-kun> somebody want fight me
[20:28] <behemoth> me me
[20:28] <tavi> someone help me to install gyache?
[20:28] <mutilator> anyone know if the jaunty vlc package will get the same fix as intrepid for the fullscreen overlay?
[20:28] <chocobo-kun> no
[20:28] <chocobo-kun> no
[20:28] <chocobo-kun> nobody helps ya ujajajaja
[20:29] <ftab> How do I make the Panel Icons smaller?
[20:29] <chefkoch2oo9> i have problems getting teamspeak work. nobody can hear me :(
[20:29] <behemoth> mateo yo no quiero un ban
[20:29] <chocobo-kun> nieto apostemos a quien lo bannean primero por molestar
[20:29] <grawity> chocobo-kun: If you don't have a question, this channel is not for you.
[20:29] <behemoth> chocobo-kun: i will help you :p
[20:29] <chocobo-kun> is ubunto funny?
[20:29] <gabriel> I have a Logitech Connect webcam but i cant make it work in ubuntu, I have the 9.04 Ubuntu, how can I make it work?
[20:30] <behemoth> yes it is :D
[20:30] <Amnesia> zoom. any idea?
[20:30] <behemoth> is really funny
[20:30] <zoom> looking
[20:30] <chefkoch2oo9> gabriel: change the permission of the /dev/tt device.
[20:30] <chocobo-kun> is the pinguin funny?
[20:30] <nathan7> grawity: I don't have a question
[20:30] <behemoth> it is cute
[20:30] <nathan7> chocobo-kun: No, cute
[20:30] <nathan7> behemoth: RAAH
[20:30] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[20:31] <zoom> Amnesia, dual boot ?
[20:31] <behemoth> tehn what is the ubuntu symbol?
[20:31] <Andrew__> Did the last update for 9.04 break everyone elses computer, or just mine?
[20:31] <Amnesia> zoom, nope only linux
[20:31] <behemoth> i want to know what is the ubuntu symbol?
[20:31] <chocobo-kun> were can i find a trojan jorce for ubuntu
[20:31] <chocobo-kun> ?
[20:31] <grawity> chocobo-kun: Google.
[20:31] <behemoth> jorse?
[20:31] <Andrew__> what is a jorse?
[20:31] <chocobo-kun> jorse
[20:32] <m4rk> behemoth: it is an upside-down letter "n"
[20:32] <Andrew__> oooooh, do you mean "horse"?
[20:32] <Myrtti> chocobo-kun, behemoth: how about you stop  playing around, I can see you're coming from the same computer
[20:32] <behemoth> is thera a program with virus for ubuntu?
[20:32] <chocobo-kun> no i mean mapache
[20:32] <regeya> jorse?
[20:32] <behemoth> m4rk: thanks
[20:32] <regeya> mapache?
[20:32] <behemoth> mapache :o
[20:32] <zoom> you should past your menu.lst
[20:32] <behemoth> is an spanish word
[20:32] <Andrew__> Okay, so, I've got this problem.  whenever I start the computer, it says there's already an X server running, and it doesn't let me use ubuntu.
[20:32] <behemoth> for racooon
[20:32] <chocobo-kun> serch in googl mapache
[20:33] <regeya> keyboards are so tricks
[20:33] <Amnesia> ahh well zoom, I'm going to try and reinstall it with the ubuntu installation
[20:33] <Amnesia> mapache = mini apache right?
[20:33] <regeya> tricksy
[20:33] <chocobo-kun> no
[20:33] <behemoth> no
[20:33] <behemoth> is a raccon
[20:33] <zoom> yes it must be ok after
[20:33] <behemoth> mapache= raccon
[20:33] <regeya> !mapache > regeya
[20:33] <thierry__> * hola
[20:33] <behemoth> mapache is in spanish!!!!
[20:33] <chocobo-kun> mapache is this http://www.google.com.co/images?q=tbn:DRgvliVY-cr_HM::blogderandy.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/mapache.jpg
[20:34] <Amnesia> zoom, : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2009-April/072146.html
[20:34] <conrad_> I'm having network problems.. how do I open up that tray network thing that lets me connect to wireless networks throught the terminal (i'm on fluxbox and don't have have the standard ubuntu menu to click on stuff)
[20:34]  * regeya can has headache?
[20:34] <voracious> I could not format usb, it says write protect is on! How it is possible to format??I tried to do google and it is not working still.
[20:35] <Andrew__> So, anybody have any help on the problem of "My computer doesn't start thanks to a bad update that shouldn't have even made it to the apt list"?
[20:35] <Pici> chocobo-kun: This is a support channel, please treat it as such.
[20:35] <chocobo-kun> i know
[20:35] <doc_lille> someone here?
[20:36] <cabrey> many people are
[20:36] <zoom> Amnesia, :) so change uuid line
[20:36] <fccf> doc_lille: 1541 people
[20:36] <chocobo-kun> first take yours computer to the batroom an throw it in to the toilet
[20:36] <Amnesia> zoom, yeah but there's no lists.lst file
[20:36] <gabriel> I have a Logitech Connect webcam but i cant make it work in ubuntu, I have the 9.04 Ubuntu, how can I make it work?
[20:36] <nathan7> =0
[20:36] <Amnesia> zoom, what's in your one?
[20:36] <nathan7> Pici: WHo was that?
[20:37] <cabrey> !webcam | gabriel
[20:37] <Pici> nathan7: Someone who doesn't want to treat this like a support channel.
[20:37] <nathan7> Pici: Ah.
[20:37] <doc_lille> j /#usa
[20:37] <nathan7> Pici: I treat this as a channel to have fun looking things up.
[20:37] <doc_lille> j #usa
[20:37] <doc_lille> øæå
[20:37]  * nathan7 throws a stone at chocobo-kun
[20:38] <gabriel> Its a Logitech Connect
[20:38] <zoom> Amnesia, grub (GNU GRUB 0.97) for me and it's in /boot/grub/menu/lst
[20:38] <cabrey> wow that irc ajax client lets him get around it
[20:38] <nathan7> cabrey: I can too, usin irssi.
[20:38] <tmetro> In 9.04 I'm seeing...
[20:38] <tmetro> The following packages are BROKEN:
[20:38] <tmetro>   linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[20:38] <tmetro> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:38] <tmetro>   linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic which is a virtual package.
[20:38] <FloodBot2> tmetro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <tmetro> Is this a local prblem, or is there something messed up in the repositories?
[20:38] <nathan7> cabrey: But I accept it if I am banned.
[20:39] <voracious> how to format write protected usb memory?? could any of you tell me?? I did not get solution in google too.
[20:39] <Dist`> does anyone have experience installing privoxy in ubuntu? My first time attempting to install a program like this, and i am having problems even getting it running
[20:39] <voracious> need your help!
[20:40] <cabrey> !tor
[20:40] <nathan7> =0
[20:40] <cabrey> oops not the right response
[20:40] <nathan7> cabrey: Oh =p
[20:40] <fccf> voracious: flip the switch on the chip
[20:40] <cabrey> Dist`, hold on, ubuntu has a guide
[20:40] <conrad_> from a terminal interface, how do I launch the graphical interface?
[20:40] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[20:41] <voracious> I don't see any switch! And it is Kingston flash memory!
[20:41] <cabrey> Dist`, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[20:41] <Jack_Sparrow> conrad_ Do you have ubuntu desktop installed
[20:42] <nathan7> =0
[20:42] <conrad_> more or less
[20:42] <fccf> voracious: there may be a software lock caused by kingston software - this you will have to do from a windows machine
[20:42] <gmone_user69> so i tried to set up a laptop to atuo log in.. i get a dialog box at start up about $HOME/.dmrc is being ignored and needs to be set as 644. I set it as 644 but i still get the error.. anyone know why?
[20:42] <Dist`> cheers cabrey, but unless i have made a stupid mistake, my install/configuration isnt going the same as that guide
[20:42] <conrad_> Jack_Sparrow: I have cruncheee installed, which is based off ubuntu
[20:42] <voracious> could you suggest me how it is possible in windows?
[20:43] <Jack_Sparrow> conrad_ We only support offical releases, not all of the spinoffs and derivatives.
[20:43] <voracious> I tried from disk management, and did not work! Says
[20:43] <voracious> 'write protect is on!'
[20:43] <tmetro> In 9.04 I'm seeing... "linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic which is a virtual package." Is this a local prblem, or is there something messed up in the repositories?
[20:43] <Dist`> i managed to install privoxy, went to /etc/privoxy/ and used mv to make a copy of 'config' as 'config2' just incase i need the default config. I then made the new settings in the 'config' file, but when i type 'privoxy' to get it to run, it says 'no logfile configured. Please enable it before reporting any problems'
[20:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tmetro I saw that once this am but that person had proposed enabled in his source.list repo - list
[20:44] <fccf> voracioius: sounds like write protect - which is usually a tiny switch/slot in the side of the stick - look closely?
[20:44] <conrad_> Jack_Sparrow: but there must be some advice you can give me that would stear me in the right direction?  how would I launch the default graphical stuff? (what is it even called so that I stop sounding as dumb as I am?)
[20:44] <gizmobay> I'm using Jaunty. Can someone tell me which package has watermark.so?
[20:44] <Jack_Sparrow> conrad_ Yes, use a release that has good support.. like ubuntu
[20:44] <Guest3630> Is there a way to change the color of the brownish bar atop of every window?
[20:44] <tmetro> Jack_Sparrow: I think I do have proposed enabled...I'll check that.
[20:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !find watermark
[20:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[20:45] <Sarago> hello new ubuntu user here
[20:45] <mxc> is it possible to get the proprietary intel GMA 950 driver that was optional in 8.04 LTS in 9.04?
[20:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome Sarago
[20:45] <gmone_user69> !find myanswer
[20:45] <marqueed> hello old ubuntu user here!
[20:45] <cabrey> mxc, there is no proprietary intel driver
[20:45] <Sarago> just installed on my dell d600
[20:45] <cabrey> mxc, intel makes all their drivers open source
[20:45] <fccf> gizmobay: there is a watermark plugin ini gimp - is this what you are looking for?
[20:45] <marqueed> Sarago: that is laptop? latitude?
[20:45] <conrad_> Jack_Sparrow: I've been using ubuntu, but when I asked a question about how to setup something else, someone just told me to install a different release (cruncheee) rather than helping me setup the program I wanted, and now I have other programs that aren't set up.  What am I to do?
[20:46] <blake__> hi am having truble with my firevire
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> conrad_ Lok for support for your release.
[20:46] <Sarago> marqueed: correct laptop latitude
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> look
[20:46] <fccf> gizmobay: ini = in not ini
[20:46] <gizmobay> no, I want to add a watermark using ffmpeg. Says I need the watermark.so file
[20:46] <godzirra> Heya folks.
[20:46] <gizmobay> in vhook
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[20:46] <godzirra> I just installed jaunty on my laptop, and my internal speakers don't work but headphones do.  What can I do to fix this?
[20:46] <marqueed> Sarago: go on
[20:46] <gizmobay> I compiled ffmpeg
[20:46] <hacker_kid> is there a simple way to make a persistent live install?
[20:47] <mxc> cabrey: really?  i've seen a proprietary/restricted driver referred to in 8.04   ( http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1114093 )
[20:47] <maglev> Hello people :)
[20:47] <Guest3630> Is there a way to change the color of the brownish bar atop of every window?
[20:47] <conrad_> Jack_Sparrow, I'm sorry.  I was under the impression that linux systems were related to one another and certain standard conventions could be used to accomplish the same sorts of tasks accross these similar platforms.
[20:47] <Sarago> marqueed: you mean what's in it?
[20:47] <fccf> gizmobay: there is probably a plugin for ffmpeg - not sure where
[20:47] <jblombaard> hello, ubuntu user with problems compiling source written for rpm distro. if someone can help plz bug me ;-)
[20:47] <gmone_user69> anyone know how to avoid the warning dialog that i am receiving when i set my login to automatic?? it says i need to set permission of .dmrc to 644.. it IS set.
[20:48] <marqueed> Sarago: i mean, did you have a problem :P
[20:48] <mxc> cabrey : i've had a hell of a time getting the graphics right (have a netbook with a 1366x768 screen)  tried messing with xorg.cong and xrandr and for the life of me, can't get anything besides a stretched out 1024x768
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> conrad_ that is correct.. but understand how we feel when we waste 30 minutes trying to help someone only to find out that they are not using our release and everything we did was a waste of time becuase they use a diff kernel, diff repos andmore.
[20:49] <maglev> Is there any easy way to add Japanese laguage typing to ubuntu without a fresh install of japanese ubuntu ?
[20:49] <Pici> !scim | maglev
[20:49] <fccf> jblombaard:  rpm's are for red-hat - this is the ubuntu support channel , rpm's arn't supported --- what package??
[20:49] <marqueed> gmone_user69: have you tried googling around for that, seems to be relatively common
[20:49] <Sarago> marqueed: no problem, was just introducing myself. The install went fine and network manager recognized my Netgear USB wireless stick with no problems
[20:50] <Dist`> how do i uninstall a program? i guess i must have screwed something up with privoxy so i might as well uninstall and start again
[20:50] <marqueed> Sarago: well that's very disappointing
[20:50] <marqueed> :P
[20:50] <lstarnes> Dist`: sudo aptitude remove package-name
[20:50] <jblombaard> fccf: Thank you. I knoe RPMs are for RedHat, but i have source that are written for that. I'll post the link
[20:50] <marqueed> gmone_user69: does it have the correct owner/group (whatever those are in this case)
[20:50] <lstarnes> Dist`: replace "remove" with "purge" if you also want to remove config files
[20:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Dist` Something from our repos or installed by yourself
[20:51] <godzirra> I just installed jaunty on my laptop, and my internal speakers don't work but headphones do.  What can I do to fix this?
[20:51] <cabrey> !alsa
[20:51] <Dist`> thankyou lstarnes, that seems to have removed it
[20:51] <mikubuntu> having probs with cd/dvd writer ... trying to burn 9.04, but at the end of burn, it stays interminably in the 'finishing write' state ... i interrupted at that point and tried to boot from that disk; machine says 'searching for boot grub' but then boots from hdd.  yes, i set bios to boot from cd first.
[20:51] <mikubuntu> having probs with cd/dvd writer ... trying to burn 9.04, but at the end of burn, it stays interminably in the 'finishing write' state ... i interrupted at that point and tried to boot from that disk; machine says 'searching for boot grub' but then boots from hdd.  yes, i set bios to boot from cd first.
[20:51] <marqueed> gmone_user69: like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=847406
[20:51] <FloodBot2> mikubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <mikubuntu> oops
[20:51] <neurobuntu> what is the program that is launched by $y?  can I get rid of this thing
[20:51] <marqueed> hahaha...
[20:52] <gmone_user69> marqueed yea i found soething similar thanks..\
[20:53] <conrad_> Does anyone know what the terminal command is for opening the network applet found in regular ubuntu?  It sits in the upper right corner on the menu bar, it lets you connect to wireless networks and things.  Thanks.
[20:53] <Myrtti> nm-applet
[20:53] <fccf> conrad_: network-admin
[20:53] <mikubuntu> anybody had such a problem with burning?  never happened before, i have burnd lots of iso's with it
[20:53] <geenna> sucuneddi
[20:53] <Pici> !it | geenna
[20:54] <godzirra> I just installed jaunty on my laptop, and my internal speakers don't work but headphones do.  What can I do to fix this?
[20:54] <cabrey> godzirra, have you looked at !alsa?
[20:54] <Sarago> is anyone in here running ubuntu on an intel motherboard?
[20:54] <godzirra> cabrey: No?
[20:54] <cabrey> !alsa | godzirra
[20:55] <fccf> jblombaard: Link? if you tell me the package you are trying to use - I might be able to tell you an ubuntu alternative
[20:55] <conrad_> Myrtti: Thank you, this is exactly what I needed!  And I'm not even running standard ubuntu.
[20:55] <jblombaard> fccf: http://devzone.mxit.com/libPurple/downloads/3/
[20:55] <jblombaard> There's a 32 bit deb, but im on 64 bit.
[20:56] <Sarago> i've got a desktop i'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on and was wondering how stable the 64bit version would be on an intel dp45sg motherboard with a QX6850 processor
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[20:56] <hatter243> Is there a command to lock the screen from the terminal?
[20:56] <tunnlrat> I finally got this HD to format from Ntfs to EXT3 so um lol dub question but how to i set it so i can access it, i am brand new to linux, i am look at my other driver under place>my computer>filesystem but i can't see this second drive
[20:56] <filosofixit> I get a black screen (mouse cursor showing) after login on a fresh install of jaunty. I have a ati radeon mobility 7500 .. Anyone who could help?
[20:57] <declanpwalsh> Hello. Having problem with read only HD.
[20:57] <hatter243> nevermind, found it through google.  If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash use the noapic acpi=off options before the "--"
[20:57] <declanpwalsh> Anyone able to help? Brand new drive. Just formatted.
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> declanpwalsh did you format it from a livecd
[20:58] <mark23564> :)
[20:58] <declanpwalsh> no from (k)ubuntu but tried it in mint(gnome) too
[20:58] <guntbert> hatter243: nice, would you care to share your findings?
[20:58] <declanpwalsh> Better from livecd?
[20:58] <Dist`> once configured, if i do sudo /etc/init.d/tor start and sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy start, both run, and configure my browser to proxy http through <IP_ADDRESS>, how do i figure out why its not working?
[20:58] <troopperi> Sarago: I have intel chipset
[20:59] <Guest3630> Is there a way to change the color of the brownish bar atop of every window?
[20:59] <fccf> jblombaard: I am not sure the 64 bit version of ubuntu has a 64bit version of pidgin/purple - if that is the case using the 32bit deb won't matter
[20:59] <hatter243> guntbert, I am trying to write a script that will pause music when I lock the screen and unpause it when I unlock. Step 1) gnome-screensaver-command --lock      will lock the screen from the terminal
[20:59] <godzirra> cabrey: I'm going through troubleshooting now.
[20:59] <godzirra> cabrey: thank you.
[20:59] <Dist`> i know my question was more of a tor question then a ubuntu question, but i am still new to ubuntu so not sure how to diagnose the problem with tor myself
[20:59] <nathan7> hatter243: Use mpd.
[20:59] <guntbert> hatter243: thanks, good to remember :-)
[20:59] <mark23564> Guest360: Right-click on the desktop and choose themes
[21:00] <godzirra> cabrey: not sure why I'm having so much trouble.  It worked out of the box when I installed jaunty before.
[21:00] <hatter243> nathan7, nah, I'm just using rhythmbox for now and rhythmbox-client --pause does what I need it to. No need to look into new players
[21:00] <cabrey> godzirra, thats interesting, did you install anything?
[21:00] <filosofixit> After a fresh install I get a black screen after login, but the mousecursor is showing. It works with a livecd. I have a laptop with a ati radeon mobility 7500
[21:00] <Bram_P> hello, when I start thunderbird it closes automatically again, when I try to do it with terminal it does the same and says "segmentation fault" what can I do?
[21:00] <tunnlrat> Once you format a new Drive using GParted, how do you gain access to it, i only see my original HD thats running the Ubuntu OS
[21:00] <Wixicy> How may I change the channel used on a wireless network card under Ubuntu?
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> declanpwalsh http://paste.ubuntu.com/191107/ May be of help
[21:00] <nathan7> hatter243: =0
[21:01] <nathan7> hatter243: Nice.
[21:01] <mark23564> Guest360:  Right-click on the desktop - choose change desktop background* - then theme
[21:01] <ryanakca> Is there a utility that I can install to monitor network usage? vnstat is showing transfers (Rx) of roughly 2GB/day, but the only network apps I have running are mutt, w3m and ssh...
[21:01] <godzirra> cabrey: I formatted and did a fresh install.  After that, I added boxee, ran the apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and installed the ATI restricted driver it suggested.  Thats it.
[21:01] <nathan7> tunnlrat: Hmm, reboot.
[21:01] <nathan7> ryanakca: Ifconfig?
[21:01] <tunnlrat> Good Idea nathan7 lol i'll try that
[21:01] <wereHamster> leave
[21:02] <ryanakca> nathan7: ... ifconfig, doesn't that only configure my network interfaces instead of printing usage information? I don't care about how much is being used in total, I want to know what is using how much.
[21:02] <jblombaard> fccf: I kinda tried everything. "dpkg -i --force-architecture" installed it, but the program didn't work. It looks like the app was ported to deb with alien. The makefile is RPM specific :-( I will just keep googling
[21:02] <nathan7> ryanakca: It does show stats
[21:02] <Sarago> troopperi: are you running 32bit or 64bit
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot > jblombaard
[21:02] <ryanakca> nathan7: But not per application
[21:02] <aaditya> ryanakca: use `netstat` to see the list of open network connections
[21:02] <troopperi> Sarago: 32-bit
[21:02] <nathan7> ryanakca: Yeah.
[21:02] <Bram_P> hello, when I start thunderbird it closes automatically again, when I try to do it with terminal it does the same and says "segmentation fault" what can I do?
[21:02] <guntbert> ryanakca: you want to have a look at iptraf
[21:02] <ryanakca> guntbert: thanks
[21:02] <Sarago> should I go with 32bit or is 64bit stable
[21:03] <ryanakca> aaditya: Yes, I usually use -plant as an option, si there a way to show how much each app is using though?
[21:03] <guntbert> ryanakca: welcome :-)
[21:03] <aaditya> !64bit | Sarago
[21:03] <tmetro> Jack_Sparrow: I disabled the proposed repository, removed the three meta packages that were broken (reinstall failed), and installed them again, which seemed to fix it. Thanks.
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> tmetro Glad you are back up and running
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks for letting me know
[21:04] <godzirra> cabrey: I'm booting with the linux cd to see if I get sound fresh off.
[21:04] <godzirra> From the boot cd.
[21:04] <cabrey> godzirra, good idea
[21:04] <guntbert> Bram_P: are there any messages (apart from seg fault)?
[21:04] <aaditya> ryanakca: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-traffic-analyzers-for-ubuntu-system.html
[21:04] <tmetro> Must be something off in proposed...but I gets that's to be expected on occasion.
[21:04] <resno> I am trying to scp a file into a certain directory. Is this right? scp filename host:folderdir ?
[21:05] <aaditya> resno: yes
[21:05] <Bram_P> guntbert: no there aren't
[21:05] <resno> aaditya: sweet, i am getting better with termianl commands :)
[21:05] <aaditya> resno: that's good
[21:05] <ryanakca> aaditya: thanks
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> tmetro Are you still here, could you restate the original symptoms so I can make a note for it
[21:06] <godzirra> cabrey: no sound. :/
[21:06] <aaditya> ryanakca: you're welcome
[21:06] <cabrey> godzirra, blah this sounds like an ALSA issue, so try bringing it to #alsa
[21:07] <tmetro> Jack_Sparrow: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/191097/ for full statement of the symptoms.
[21:07] <godzirra> I don't know why a reinstall from the same cd would cause problems.
[21:07] <godzirra> Its very odd.
[21:07] <godzirra> i'm going to boot into win7 to make sure its not a hardware speaker issue
[21:07] <guntbert> Bram_P: a quick test: rename your profile, and try again
[21:08] <aaditya> Bram_P: the problem could be caused by the presence of scim
[21:08] <Dist`> how do i view a processing running in the background?
[21:08] <traemccombs> hey guys, what's a good RSS feed reader for Ubuntu - GTK/Gnome based
[21:08] <aaditya> Bram_P: try uninstalling "scim"
[21:08] <MiGri> hi
[21:08] <Dist`> i tried top but the process i am looking for is not listed, so i assume top doesnt show background stuff
[21:08] <resno> Dist`: top? from terminal
[21:08] <gleg> Hello.  I just upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy, 8.04.  Everything worked fairly well expect the sound.  I have searched for approximately 2 full days now, so I have looked for a solution already posted.  It seems like my box isn't detecting a sound card.  When I run " lspci -v | grep -i audio" I get " Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller", so it seems the Hardware is there, but when I run "asoundconf list" I g
[21:08] <gleg> et nothing listed.  I have a Nvidia graphics card, though I don't know why that should matter.  Thanks for any help.
[21:09] <resno> Dist`: ctrl - esc
[21:09] <godzirra> Okay.  Not a hardware problem at least.
[21:09] <resno> Dist`: Mean ctrl + esc
[21:09] <godzirra> cabrey: Thakns.  i'll try in #alsa.
[21:09] <MiGri> anyone here, who can help me getting conky running on 9.04? I cannot get any wlan stats
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tmetro ty
[21:10] <guntbert> Dist`: on the console type ps aux|less
[21:10] <aaditya> Dist`: background as in?
[21:11] <puchacz> hi, is there an up-to-date Tablet PC compatibility guide for (K)Ubuntu?
[21:11] <syn-fin> Hello, I have a bunch of txt files, how do I make one big txt file by joining all the txt files?
[21:11] <Dist`> background as in, i started tor and privoxy, it said its running, yet its not working, and when i try look at running processes i cant see it even listed as running
[21:11] <Dist`> ctrl esc didnt seem to do anything
[21:11] <aaditya> Dist`: ps -ef | grep tor
[21:11] <puchacz> syn-fin: for i in *.txt; do cat $i >> result.all; done
[21:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a package manager for TeX/LaTeX I can get from the ubuntu repositories? Or does synaptic have such packages in there somewhere?
[21:12] <cankoy> any idea why this happens at every boot?   -->  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[21:12] <resno> puchacz: is that a bash command?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> 64bit computers with 4GB RAM, how much SWAP  should they have?
[21:12] <puchacz> resno: yes
[21:13] <mark23564> 8GB
[21:13] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: there are a lot of tex/latex related packages in the repositories, i'm not sure what you're thinking about specifically though
[21:13] <syn-fin> puchacz: thanks, will try in a minute
[21:13] <resno> puchacz: ah, thanks.
[21:13] <frostburn> sebsebseb, 8g if you want to hibernate
[21:13] <sebsebseb> mark23564: why?
[21:13] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: "apt-cache search latex" shows quite a bit.
[21:13] <sebsebseb> frostburn: ok yeah the double the RAM for hibernate thing
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sebsebseb generally I would say 4
[21:13] <Mike_lifeguard> LjL: Well, I found a metapackage with a bunch of crap in it... but I want to specifically install/uninstall/whatever individual latex packages
[21:13] <mark23564> sebseb: read up on it yesterday - swap 2 x RAM
[21:13] <aaditya> syn-fin, puchacz: make sure you quote $i, like "$i"
[21:13] <tunnlrat> Back again with another noob question, how do i set permissions on my new drive so i can copy files to it???
[21:13] <Mike_lifeguard> I used to have a graphical package manager that came with MiKTeX on Windows, but I can't find anything similar for linux
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mark23564 up to 4 gig is a rule of thumb
[21:14] <resno> tunnlrat: chmod
[21:14] <aaditya> tunnlrat: `chmod`
[21:14] <nathan7> Mike_lifeguard: ?
[21:14] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: so do it? "apt-cache depends name-of-that-metapackage" will show every package it depends on, then you can handle those separately.
[21:14] <aaditya> tunnlrat: and `chown`
[21:14] <fccf> !man
[21:14] <Guest3630> Is there a way to change the color of the brownish bar atop of every window?
[21:14] <syn-fin> aaditya: thanks
[21:14] <nathan7> !man woman
[21:14] <Dist`> thanks for the help everyone. still having problems i cant seem to solve so ill just have to use windows for this. good thing i decided to keep my windows install as a dual boot :D
[21:15] <nathan7> ubottu: man woman is <reply> Segmentation fault.
[21:15] <nathan7> !man woman is
[21:15] <sebsebseb> !women >  nathan7
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tunnlrat First, check the ownership: Open a terminal and type cd /media ...then type... ls -la ...then, do the following, replacing “yourPartition” with the name of the partition (e.g. /sdb1)... sudo chown -R username:username /media/yourPartition  (On a live system you must create a user name first) followed by... sudo chmod -R 755 /media/yourPartition ... Finally, check to see if it worked by doing another ls -la to verify the
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow>  permissions are set
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> drat
[21:15] <Mike_lifeguard> LjL: thanks - that helps for this metapackage I guess
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry to all
[21:15] <deco> is the awesome wm really awesome?
[21:15] <Guest3630> !bot abuse | nathan7
[21:15] <nathan7> sebsebseb: That a date channel?
[21:15] <nathan7> =p
[21:15] <sebsebseb> Jack_Sparrow: yeah 8GB  seems a lot for 4GB RAM computers
[21:16] <nathan7> !yourmom | Guest3630
[21:16] <nathan7> DARN
[21:16] <Myrtti> nathan7: STOP IT
[21:16] <nathan7> I meant it not to trigger
[21:16] <nathan7> It ignored ^F
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tunnlrat http://paste.ubuntu.com/191114/
[21:16]  * nathan7 slaps ubottu
[21:16] <gleg> Is there some way that I can force my computer to recognize my sound card?
[21:16] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: another trick might be "apt-cache rdepends tex-common", i think that should give you the name of most text-related packages.
[21:16] <bin1010> !pakages
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> nathan7 Please stop
[21:17] <tunnlrat> Thank you jack, I am not sure it has any permisions or ownership yet i formated it from ntfs to ext3 rebooted and i can browse to it just not read or write to it
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bin1010 what were you looking for
[21:17] <Guest3630> !irritating | nathan7
[21:17] <aaditya> !ops | nathan7
[21:17] <nathan7> ...
[21:17] <LjL> ...
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> aaditya We are on it
[21:17] <felix__> can anyone test if http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8082/ works?
[21:17] <Guest3630> Is there a way to change the color of the brownish bar atop of every window?
[21:17] <puchacz> anybody? heard of an up-to-date Tablet PC compatibility guide, please?
[21:17] <LjL> Guest3630: you aren't helping anything by abusing the bot yourself.
[21:18] <aaditya> Guest3630: System > Preferences > Appearance
[21:18] <Guest3630> LjL: I meant for it to tell nathan not to be irritating but, it wasnt in the database
[21:18] <fccf> felix__: It Works!
[21:18] <Guest3630> aaditya: thank you very much
[21:18] <felix__> thanks fccf
[21:18] <resno> aaditya: sweet. i was wondering how that was done.
[21:19] <bin1010> Jack_Sparrow: sorry. I am looking for someway to manage the required packages for a .deb package I am working on.  For now I only need to add
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !packaging > bin1010
[21:19] <Bram_P> guntbert: sorry, bit late... Do you mean the profile I also use to login?
[21:20] <Guest3630> bin1010: I will call you dec10
[21:20] <bin1010> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is that the deb file already exists...most of what I have seen is for when you make the package from scratch
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bin1010 I dont deal with any packaging thanks
[21:21] <guntbert> Bram_P: np :), no I mean the thunderbird profile (though I must admit not to know where it resides)
[21:21] <resno> To compress a folders do you use. tar -xvf filename?
[21:21] <bin1010> Jack_Sparrow: cool, np.  No one seems to.  Its like webpages, everyone copies from someone else and no one knows how to do it.  LOL
[21:22] <maco> guntbert, its in ~/.mozilla or ~/.mozilla-thunderbird, i think
[21:22] <uzr> how do i install flash
[21:22] <fccf> bin1010: mvo did a really good job at expalining packaging a few days ago in #ubuntu-classroom - you might look at that log
[21:23] <troopperi> !flash >uzr
[21:23] <uzr> !GNASH
[21:23] <uzr> !RESTRICTED
[21:23] <fccf> !caps |uzr
[21:23] <guntbert> maco: thanks, yes,  but Bram_P is away it seems
[21:23] <uzr> !cap FCCF
[21:23] <uzr> !caps FCCF
[21:24] <sebsebseb> Jack_Sparrow: swap shoudn't be bigger than 4GB?
[21:24] <LjL> !bot | uzr
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> sebsebseb Generally I 2x up to 4
[21:24] <maco> uzr, fccf was trying to tell you to stop shouting
[21:24] <uzr> maco how do you shout on irc
[21:24] <omnydevi> caps
[21:24] <LjL> uzr: by writing in UPPERCASE.
[21:24] <uskrewed> is there a fix to the lockups that happen when deleting files on ext4?
[21:24] <maco> uzr, the same way you shout in email and IM...caps
[21:24] <resno> uzr: THIS IS SHOUTING. This is talking. :)
[21:25] <uzr> how do you ignore joins/parts
[21:25] <maco> uskrewed, not in jaunty yet, i dont think...though i'm beginning to feel i'm the only person who hasn't experienced them
[21:25] <uzr> to many people leaving
[21:25] <maco> uzr, depends on your client
[21:25] <uskrewed> womp womp
[21:25] <uskrewed> do I have to switch to ext3?
[21:25] <uzr> epic?
[21:25] <uskrewed> is there any way to switch without losing all my data?
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> uskrewed: switch from what to what?
[21:26] <maco> uskrewed, i think downgrading's possible
[21:26] <uskrewed> from ext4 to ext3
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, there's no way to convert ext4 -> ext3, so far as I know
[21:26] <sylvanus_> Hello! is it possible to burn mp3's to a dvd?
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> unless it's new
[21:27] <Mike_lifeguard> there wasn't back at fosdem
[21:27] <uskrewed> the lockups are killing me... I've just switched from windows with high expectations and now my computer locks up almost everytime I delete a file
[21:27] <puchacz> hello, how to check what version of ubuntu I am running?
[21:27] <ikonia> puchacz: lsb_release -a
[21:27] <puchacz> ikonia: thanks
[21:27] <uzr> i accidentally ran sudo rm -rf /. but cancelled it right after can i reboot my box to get it back
[21:28] <fccf> uskrewed: if there is room on the ext4 ... shrink it ... then make a ext3 to copy onto... although I haven't tried - could be super experimental
[21:28] <LjL> !danger
[21:28] <LjL> uzr: no.
[21:28] <uskrewed> is ubuntu stored on the swap or ext4 partition?
[21:28] <uskrewed> because I don't want to lose the OS part of the hardrive, everything I can move to another HD to backup
[21:29] <Mike_lifeguard> uskrewed: ext4 is /very/ new - I wouldn't recommend using it yet
[21:29] <Mike_lifeguard> uskrewed: swap is for swap - ext4 is for your filesystem
[21:29] <uskrewed> hehe, all the people in #ubuntu on efnet suggested it >_<
[21:29] <IamDaveMyers> how do you accidentally run sudo rm -rf ??  if you ran sudo, then you would have been askded for your password... or was it placed maliciously into a set of command you copied and pasted?
[21:29] <macvr> uskrewed: i'm having a lot of probs... dont use ext4...
[21:30] <Mike_lifeguard> IamDaveMyers: If you just did sudo then it won't ask for your password again for a while
[21:30] <uskrewed> okies... well thanks I guess I have to fresh install now
[21:30] <bin1010> fccf: I see where he taught, but I can't find the scripts...any ideas?  I am probably just missing something.
[21:30] <uskrewed> le sigh
[21:30] <Guest3630> Are there better drivers than those that come with the ubuntu installation cd?
[21:30] <IamDaveMyers> That is why I thought it may have been maliciously inserted into a set of commands that uzr was cutting and pasting.
[21:30] <Scunizi> Guest3630: depends on what you're talking about.
[21:31] <theclaw> hi
[21:31] <IamDaveMyers> if uzr keeps his "personal" data on a separate partition would that have protected it? or would the partition be blighted also?
[21:31] <uzr> OH NO I FUCKING DELETED MY SYSTEM
[21:31] <LjL> Iamyou are already making an assumption here - that he is not just a troll.
[21:31] <Guest3630> Scunizi: My torrents are not downloading at appropriate rates but, direct downloads are. Could this be a driver related issue?
[21:31] <macvr> uzr: !language
[21:31] <LjL> IamDaveMyers: ^
[21:31] <DBO> uzr, time for a fresh start on life
[21:32] <IamDaveMyers> ... fair point....
[21:32] <macvr> !language | uzr
[21:32] <Mike_lifeguard> uskrewed: you can always create an ext3 filesystem and mount it as ext4 temporarily or semi-permanently to get some performance benefits
[21:32] <resno> Guest3630: could be your internet. some block that stuff
[21:32] <theclaw> when I try to install any package with aptitude, it tries to remove a package I built with 'checkinstall' because it says it's "unused" - how do I configure that my custom package isn't any longer unused?
[21:32] <uskrewed> Okay, since I am going to have to reinstall ubuntu is there any way I can save the programs/configs I have set up now? I've had to do a bunch of googling to get the settings right and just don't want to have to go through that again
[21:32] <Mike_lifeguard> I don't know if that'd affect the lockups you refer to
[21:32] <Scunizi> Guest3630: not neccessarily.. could just be the torrents, how many are serving them up, you're connection to the torrent servers etc.. if a direct download works fine then it's not drivers
[21:32] <sylvanus_> is it possible to burn mp3's to a DVD?
[21:32] <KhaaL> hi, i'd like to apply a patch to 2.6.8-rc8 kernel and I'd like to have help in the process since I never done it in ubuntu
[21:32] <bin1010> fccf: I am asking on #ubuntu-classroom...hopefully
[21:32] <uskrewed> how aboult I go about that?
[21:32] <uzr> itssssssssssssss gonnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:32] <LjL> theclaw: sudo aptitude unmarkauto packagename
[21:32] <uzr> fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[21:33] <resno> sylvanus_: i wouldnt see why not, but why would you want to?