[03:41] <vivid> is traditional xorg available as an option for 13.10/unity?
[03:46] <trism> vivid: based on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037401.html that would seem to be the case, but mir hasn't landed yet so hard to say
[03:50] <vivid> oh, well as long as im not forced transition at this point
[03:50] <vivid> because i need nvidia+x11 still and probably will for quite some time
[07:30] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I'm trying to find out which version of BlueZ will be in Ubuntu 13.10. Can anybody indicate which or point me to where I can find that information? I'm not having luck locating the information on the Ubuntu Wiki. Thx in advance.
[07:35] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I found the following comment from earlier this month on a launchpad bug to upgrade to the BlueZ 5.x stack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1162781/comments/3
[07:35] <[Ch4m3l30n]> LOL; jynx
[07:36] <[Ch4m3l30n]> Now I'm responding to bots! I should just go to bed.
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:05] <soc> is it intentional that the release-notes for alpha/beta/... releases don't mention anymore how one can upgrade existing installations?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> anyone who updates and dist-upgrades today might lose VLC if installed , easily solved thought , just re-nstall it
[13:10] <BluesKaj> soc, upgrade to the next OS or just existing packages?
[13:15] <soc> next OS
[15:19] <kdef> ubuntu forums still down?
[15:19] <kdef> they don't use ubuntu servers?   maybe they use windows servers? :D
[16:01] <IdleOne> Did you try going to ubuntuforums.org ?
[16:16] <Ampelbein> IdleOne: It's still down from here.
[16:17] <IdleOne> Ampelbein: indeed. I should have mentioned kdef's nick in my post
[16:17] <Ampelbein> IdleOne: Ah, I see.
[16:21] <penguin42> intresting, personal mounts have moved to /media/username/whatever
[16:49] <penguin42> gah, this is gently confusing lots of stuff - like my gnucash trying to open the file it normally opens that's normally in /media/crypt
[16:49] <penguin42> (but probably is the right things to do)
[19:18] <thetinyjesus> hey guys question for you all, im trying to install ps3mediaserver from backports and not 100% sure how
[19:18] <thetinyjesus> i tried install ps3mediaserver/raring-backports no success
[19:21] <bazhang> raring questions in #ubuntu please
[19:21] <thetinyjesus> its not a raring question im running 13.10 trying to install ps3mediaserver from raring backports
[19:22] <bazhang> !find ps3mediaserver saucy
[19:22] <Daekdroom> thetinyjesus, ps3mediaserver apparently is not even a package in the official repos.
[19:22] <thetinyjesus> ive installed ps3mediaserver for the past 4 years but simply sudo apt-get install ps3mediaserver
[19:22] <thetinyjesus> by
[19:23] <Daekdroom> !find ps3mediaserver raring
[19:23] <Daekdroom> !find ps3mediaserver quantal
[19:23] <jtaylor> installing raring backports on 13.10 makes no sense
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> ah okay its my fault not giving full info
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> is the ppa for it
[19:23] <jtaylor> backports are backported from(!) 13.10
[19:23] <Daekdroom> thetinyjesus, you most likely had a different repo that had it
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> that ppa is for raring not 13.10
[19:24] <thetinyjesus> idk how to use it on 13.10
[19:24] <jtaylor> change the line in your sources.d from saucy to raring
[19:24] <Daekdroom> Although if you were clueless about doing that, I hardly think you should be using 13.10, specially this early in the development.
[19:24] <jtaylor> or ask the ppa to provide a 13.10 package
[19:25] <thetinyjesus> i wasn't clueless to doing that, i simply forgot that it wasnt an offical ppa..
[19:25] <thetinyjesus> official
[19:25] <Daekdroom> I don't see how that it's not an official PPA (most aren't, anyway) affects it.
[19:25] <bazhang> very few are official
[19:26] <Daekdroom> software-properties-gtk, or however it's called, also should allow you to change that
[19:35] <thetinyjesus> well got it to work
[19:36] <thetinyjesus> for some reason it took a few tries ubuntu kept switching it from raring back to saucy  not sure why
[19:42] <thetinyjesus> trying to remove unity-lens-shopping its telling me to remove unity-scope-home are they the same?
[19:43] <Daekdroom> thetinyjesus, unity-lens-shopping is a requirement for unity-scope-home
[19:43] <thetinyjesus> ah so its non removable due to dependencies now?


[03:44] <jose> hey mhall119, you think you can edit something little on the ubuntuonair page at community.u.c? I'm no longer JoseeAntonioR on freenode, I'm jose now
[03:44] <mhall119> that's still confusing to me
[03:44] <mhall119> :)
[03:45] <mhall119> still not sure how, in all of freenode, you managed to get the nick jose
[03:46] <mhall119> jose: done
[03:46] <jose> mhall119: didn't get to register it as the owner wouldn't drop it, but I'm using it anyways (unused for ~140+ weeks)
[03:46] <jose> thanks!
[12:18] <cjohnston> JoseeAntonioR: exists!
[13:03] <SergioMeneses> morning!
[18:46] <JoseeAntonioR> cjohnston: yes, I'm back as while ZNC dropped the other user managed to get it. by tomorrow jose will be back :)
[18:46] <cjohnston> no!
[18:47] <JoseeAntonioR> yes!
[18:47] <JoseeAntonioR> cjohnston: you still need a hand with summit? I can pitch in during my vacations (starting next week)
[18:48] <cjohnston> I have quite a few projects going on that can always use extra hands
[18:49] <JoseeAntonioR> just let me know
[18:49] <JoseeAntonioR><EMAIL_ADDRESS>is the right one now
[18:50] <cjohnston> JoseeAntonioR: why don't you just ping me when you have free time and I'll see what's going on at that point
[18:50] <cjohnston> :-)
[18:50] <JoseeAntonioR> works for me, will do!
[18:50] <JoseeAntonioR> expect a ping by next week
[18:51] <cjohnston> thanks!
[18:59] <JoseeAntonioR> hey mhall119, quick thingy, just wanted to know if you could please do future ubuntuonair streams from the ubuntuonair account (I can give you the credentials again if you need them)
[19:00] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: ah, sorry, I thought we could use any account now
[19:01] <JoseeAntonioR> not yet
[19:01] <mhall119> I stil have the credentials, if they haven't changed, I'll remember that for next time
[19:01] <balloons> jcastro, marcoceppi is there a good recent video of juju showing of the latest stuff?
[19:01] <JoseeAntonioR> they are the same :) I need dholbach to give me an update on the summit thing so we can start with the django project
[19:01] <marcoceppi> balloons: there's a video of the juju gui being used the deploy openstack (not in production, in demonstration) somewhere around here
[19:02]  * marcoceppi should start making more videos
[19:02] <balloons> marcoceppi, well is this still up? http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/
[19:02] <marcoceppi> balloons: http://jujucharm.com/
[19:02] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: my advice to daniel was that we make a new Django app, but borrow code heavily from Summit
[19:03] <marcoceppi> balloons: well, the demo is now http://jujucharms.com/sidebar/
[19:03] <balloons> marcoceppi, that works ty!
[19:03] <marcoceppi> "Build" is the "gui", "browse" is the store, they're both one in the same now
[19:03] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: great, I'll talk to him and see what can we do in the near future
[19:50] <Taggg> hello, if I've found a wiki page that duplicates a page from developer.ubuntu.com, what's the right way to suggest it's removal?
[19:50] <Taggg> should i just delete it?
[20:21] <airurando> Taggg I don't know but keep faith in here and someone should answer
[20:40] <balloons> Taggg, which page?
[20:41] <Taggg> balloons, airurando: already set up a refresh :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[20:42] <balloons> Taggg, perfect.. that was my suggestion over deleting
[20:42] <Taggg> balloons: cool
[21:26] <airurando> nice one balloons
[21:26] <airurando> :-)


[09:25] <ikonia> Linuxnut: hello
[09:25] <Linuxnut> How do i get unbaned
[09:25] <ikonia> Linuxnut: you start by following the rules you've been warned about many times
[09:25] <Linuxnut> I was just asking
[09:26] <ikonia> Linuxnut: how many times over the past 2 days have I warned you about your offtopic conversation
[09:26] <ikonia> Linuxnut: I answered a question about projecthugo the other day informing you it was down and that it was offtopic for this channel
[09:26] <Linuxnut> Sorry for not listing to you
[09:26] <ikonia> I am tired of warning you, I've given you 3 "final warnings" - so enough
[09:27] <Linuxnut> I will be good
[09:27] <ikonia> Linuxnut: you've had 2 days to be good
[09:28] <ikonia> you've kept ignoring the requests to stop
[09:28] <ikonia> I shouldn't have to ban you to get you to obey the channel rules
[09:28] <ikonia> you should have stopped after the first/second request, not 10 requests down the line and 3 "final warnings"
[09:29] <Linuxnut> Im a hard head i guess but if you let me back in ill just talk ubuntu
[09:29] <ikonia> no
[09:29] <ikonia> not at this time
[09:29] <ikonia> I've asked you many many times to "just talk ubuntu", you've ignored it
[09:29] <ikonia> it's not fair on the other users of the channel
[09:29] <ikonia> !guidelines > Linuxnut
[09:30] <Linuxnut> how do i see a pm
[09:30] <ikonia> ubottu has just sent you a pm with a set of guidelines on how to behave in the channel. Take a day or two to read and absorb them
[09:30] <ikonia> !guidelines | Linuxnut
[09:30] <ikonia> Linuxnut: there you go, there is the URL ubottu has pm'd you
[09:30] <ikonia> Linuxnut: take a day or two to read/digest them and come back here and we'll look at removing your ban
[09:32] <Linuxnut> Is that you scaning my server
[09:32] <ikonia> what
[09:32] <Linuxnut> Never mind guess not
[09:33] <ikonia> Linuxnut: ok, so please read that URL, and come back in a day or two
[09:33] <Linuxnut> Ok
[09:33] <ikonia> thanks
[09:33] <ikonia> bye, speak to you in a day or two
[09:45] <ikonia> Linuxnut: if you don't need anything more from the operator team, we request you leave the channel so that others may get help. Thanks
[10:13] <ikonia> 10:12 -!- ikonia-fanboy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:13] <ikonia> I wonder what this guys intention is
[10:17] <elky> to be your BFF, clearly
[10:19] <Myrtti> blunt, but possibly effective
[10:22] <elky> aren't you feeling endeared to them?
[10:23] <ikonia> more fanboys
[10:23] <ikonia> gee, I wonder where this is coming from
[10:31]  * Myrtti walks away
[10:58]  * Myrtti facepalms
[12:01] <muhqu> hey, Is here someone in charge of http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:02] <muhqu> It's like one of its assigned IPs (<IP_ADDRESS>) doesn't serve the package repository… it's empty
[12:12] <popey> muhqu: I'd ask in #ubuntu-server or #canonical-sysadmin
[12:14] <muhqu> ok, popey, thx
[12:36] <muhqu> fyi: the issue with http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ is solved
[12:37] <Myrtti> great, thank you
[12:41] <Myrtti> muhqu: can we help you with anything else?
[12:42] <muhqu> Myrtti: no, thanks  ;-)


[16:04] <dupondje> Correct that Nvidia driver (the closed source one) doesn't support Wayland atm?
[21:09] <dobey> dupondje: correct