[00:00] <neverblue> Hazarath, have you installed any drivers/other apps to assist with viewing ?
[00:00] <Hazarath> neverblue: like what?
[00:00] <FactTech> Question: Does anybody have any experience getting a PCMCIA network card up and running on a laptop? I've got one that I can see via "pccardctl info" but which doesn't seem to be coming up as a network device.
[00:00] <barry_> im back and cant fix my sound
[00:01] <barry_> i wanna use my usb audio not my soundcard
[00:01] <neverblue> Hazarath, drivers
[00:01] <rr_lap> ty Dr_willis
[00:01] <neverblue> Hazarath, drivers for your video... codecs to view the movie.... ?
[00:01] <Hazarath> neverblue: All the drivers that mplayer found, yes. All installed.
[00:01] <noon> Im having problems with my wired ethernet. I can dig/ping sites. I did arp, there are no address conflicts. I do not use a proxy; I cannot load any websites in FF. I can SOMETIMES connect to services such as AIM. I can sometimes load a web page if another PC on my network has just loaded it. I am running DHCP. I am stuck.. :(
[00:02] <elPansi> Hola!
[00:02] <nominativo> re
[00:02] <Flare183> !es | elPansi
[00:02] <ubotu> elPansi: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:02] <Hazarath> neverblue: Intel drivers installed. All other AVIs in my collection play, it's just this freggin' 1,200Kbps bitrate that's killing me.
[00:02] <nblracer> hey im looking for docs or walkthough on seting up a Ubuntu user network, so that no matter what computer you sign in you have accses to all your files and settings
[00:02] <neverblue> Hazarath, not able to help you
[00:02] <tarvid> nominativo, i am dropping in in the middle but my guess is that you are having trouble with a wireless connection
[00:03] <neverblue> !pbx
[00:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pbx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <nominativo> pardon?
[00:03] <barry_> i have no sound and my soundcard isent the best in the world so i want 2 use my usb audio and it dosent work idk if i dont have drivers installed or wat. when itry to test the usb audio in system>pref>sound it gets an error
[00:03] <nominativo> sorry, tarvid, i don't understand
[00:04] <tarvid> nominativo, maybe I am confused with a different thread, what was your issue?
[00:04] <nominativo> ok problems with wireless
[00:04] <nominativo> but wireless connection
[00:04] <nominativo> i don't think is the card
[00:04] <nominativo> because it has a driver
[00:05] <nominativo> and it can scan
[00:05] <Hazarath> Can anyone help me with playing back a high quality film? I tried to play it with Mplayer, and VLC, both make the system stammer, VLC more.
[00:05] <tarvid> what does iwlist ap say
[00:06] <zac_> hey guys, for some reason the wireless icon isn't showing up in my system tray so I can't select a network, what can I do?
[00:06] <tarvid> zac_, try the networking applet in the upper right
[00:06] <neverblue> Hazarath, whats the output from 'file movie.avi' ? (put on pastebin to not flood the channel)
[00:06] <neverblue> !pastebin | Hazarath
[00:06] <ubotu> Hazarath: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:06] <nickrud> zac_: alt-f2, nm-applet --sm-disable
[00:07] <nominativo> eth1      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[00:07] <noon> Im having problems with my wired ethernet. I can dig/ping sites. I did arp, there are no address conflicts. I do not use a proxy; I cannot load any websites in FF. I can SOMETIMES connect to services such as AIM. I can sometimes load a web page if another PC on my network has just loaded it. I am running DHCP. I am stuck.. :(
[00:07] <Hazarath> neverblue: What do I put in the terminal?
[00:07] <neverblue> file movie.avi
[00:07] <tarvid> nominativo, looking for the networking entry for your wireless card, mine is ath0
[00:07] <nominativo> mine is eth1 surely
[00:08] <desertc> barry_: should be no reason why you can't use both your usb card and internal one - did you try the instructions that I sent to you before?
[00:08] <cotton> if i have linux 7.04 installed and i pop in a 7.10 cd can i update without losing anything?
[00:08] <neverblue> Hazarath, file is a command, which tells you information about a file, in this case, your movie
[00:08] <tarvid> not for wireless
[00:08] <cotton> ubuntu 7.04*
[00:08] <nominativo> (is the same also for the others..)
[00:08] <falconer> cotton yes
[00:08] <cotton> thanks
[00:08] <falconer> but it is common sense to have backups in case of an emergency
[00:08] <nickrud> cotton: yes, some stuff it will want to get from the net however
[00:08] <zakke> I downloaded drivers for my graphic-card, and I'ts a .run file, how do i open it in the terminal?
[00:08] <zac_> nickrud: that created another instance of the wired network applet, but I still don't see anything about wireless. I know its working, though, because I can list access points by command line
[00:08] <soundray> cotton: you can't update with the Desktop Install CD. Get the Alternate CD if you can't do a network update
[00:08] <cotton> well ya its connected to the internet
[00:09] <tarvid> iwlist scanning?
[00:09] <cotton> whats the alternate cd?
[00:09] <soundray> !upgrade > cotton
[00:09] <Hazarath> neverblue: TheMatrix.mkv: Matroska data <-- That's it.
[00:09] <soundray> !alternate > cotton, please read your private messages
[00:09] <nickrud> cotton: releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , the one you need to do a disk upgrade with
[00:09] <nominativo> it scans
[00:09] <nominativo> on eth1 it founds 2 networks
[00:09] <nickrud> zac_: mis read your post then. right click the applet, make sure wireless is enabled
[00:10] <tarvid> getting closer
[00:10] <pici_juvenile> What does this mean:
[00:10] <pici_juvenile> make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o] Error 1
[00:10] <pici_juvenile> make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
[00:10] <cotton> what do you guys recomend for a virtual machine for ubuntu
[00:10] <nominativo> it seems to be closer
[00:10] <ompaul> cotton, you can use Xen
[00:10] <nominativo> it's closer i know ;(
[00:10] <zakke> I downloaded drivers for my graphic-card, and I'ts a .run file, how do i open it in the terminal?
[00:10] <nickrud> pici_juvenile: the real errors came earlier ....
[00:10] <tarvid> in the network applet those should show in the drop down Network ID
[00:10] <zac_> nickrud: my only options are Enable Network and about. Connection information is grey'ed out
[00:10] <neverblue> Hazarath, http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/codecid/wavpack.html :: happy reading
[00:10] <noon> Im having problems with my wired ethernet. I can dig/ping sites. I did arp, there are no address conflicts. I do not use a proxy; I cannot load any websites in FF. I can SOMETIMES connect to services such as AIM. I can sometimes load a web page if another PC on my network has just loaded it. I am running DHCP. I am stuck.. :(
[00:10] <tarvid> zac_, enable network
[00:11] <nickrud> zac_: you don't have an enable wireless option?
[00:11] <zac_> tarvid: its already enabled
[00:11] <soundray> zakke: don't install a .run file. Ubuntu supplies special packages for most hardware
[00:11] <zac_> no wireless to be seen
[00:11] <soundray> zakke: what graphic card do you have?
[00:11] <zakke> Ati radeon 9600
[00:11] <nominativo> tarvid i don't understand
[00:11] <soundray> zakke: are you on gutsy (7.10)?
[00:11] <zakke> Yes I am
[00:11] <cotton> is there a fedora chat?
[00:11] <CruCio> hmm
[00:11] <Hazarath> neverblue: What does this tell me, besides script looking things?
[00:12] <soundray> zakke: enable the restricted driver (System-Administration-Restricted Driver Manager)
[00:12] <nickrud> zac_: not sure what to say to that
[00:12] <zakke> okay, thanks!
[00:12] <CruCio> kubuntu can work alongside ubuntu right ?
[00:12] <cotton> i went to #fedora and it doesnt seem to be nething
[00:12] <tarvid> the gnome way of selecting the wireless network can be reached either throught the icon in the upper right or through System, Administration, Network
[00:12] <nominativo> ok
[00:12] <Cpudan80> CruCio: You can install the KDE package on ubuntu yes
[00:12] <pici_juvenile> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/869213
[00:12] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Or in theory you could dual boot ubuntu + kbuntu --- but... why?
[00:12] <nominativo> i set up the parameters needed
[00:12] <tarvid> guessing you should select eth1 then properties
[00:12] <aruonoaru> i need to delete a folder thats locked on the desktop
[00:13] <neverblue> Hazarath, i think you will have to actually read it to figure it out yourself
[00:13] <CruCio> Cpuden80 , is it only the KDE package or is kubuntu included ?
[00:13] <tarvid> then thx for Network ID should show you a list of networkse dropdown bo
[00:13] <zac_> nickrud: its listed when I go to Network Settings as well. Says roaming mode is enabled
[00:13] <yogurt> hi there
[00:13] <nickrud> pici_juvenile: install the package libncurses5-dev
[00:13] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Ehhh I don't know exactly what you want -- most people just want the KDE package (so they can use KDE)
[00:13] <tarvid> ah roaming is another matter, deselect it for now
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: You can gksudo nautilus and get it done.. use that command sparringly.. it can get you into trouble.
[00:13] <aruonoaru> removing java
[00:13] <cotton> is it a bad idea to run ubuntu and fedora on the same machine?
[00:14] <Hazarath> neverblue: I can play the file, however, it stammers, hence me having the problem. If I wanted to research and develop my own files, that can come in handy. I need something to decode the files at a better rate, or convert it, not learn how it works.
[00:14] <tarvid> roaming is zeroconf (I think) and depends on Avahi
[00:14] <Cpudan80> cotton: No, why?
[00:14] <neverblue> cotton, on different partitions, I dont see why not
[00:14] <CruCio> i have my ubuntu installed oy my PS3 and though i love it i its impossible to install java on it
[00:14] <nickrud> pici_juvenile: the first error was in line 09, that should fix it.
[00:14] <Cpudan80> cotton: On different partitions should be ok
[00:14] <nominativo> yes i'm not roaming
[00:14] <soundray> CruCio: if you want the full kubuntu desktop, do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[00:14] <Cpudan80> oops looks like neverblue beat me to the punch line
[00:14] <neverblue> Hazarath, your talking to the wrong person then
[00:14] <nominativo> bacause i have static ip
[00:14] <yogurt> I've changed gdm theme and changed my background colour, but still between gdm and my actualy background image coming up there's about 2 seconds of some light brown
[00:14] <yogurt> what is that?
[00:14] <yogurt> I dont understand where it's picking that up, but it obviously belongs to the default theme or something
[00:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[00:14] <CruCio> soundray , and doing this will install kubuntu and delete ubuntu right ?
[00:14] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[00:15] <cotton> ok, does anyone know how to partition a flash drive?
[00:15] <tarvid> then clicking the down arrow next to network id should give you a list of SSIDs
[00:15] <soundray> CruCio: no
[00:15] <Hazarath> Can anyone help me with playing back a high quality film? I tried to play it with Mplayer, and VLC, both make the system stammer, VLC more. It's a MKVformat film. Tried converting to AVI, same issues:the bitrate is too high.
[00:15] <nickrud> zac_: When I do wireless in ubuntu I depend blindly on NetworkManager. It Works for Me™ and I haven't had to learn anything about the underlying stuff. I dread the day it stops and I must.
[00:15] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: oh, I thought that was for the image at boot time
[00:15] <soundray> CruCio: it won't delete anything (and you shouldn't, unless you're really short of space)
[00:15] <nominativo> yes i did
[00:15] <yogurt> not after gdm
[00:15] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:15] <nominativo> there is my network
[00:15] <pici_juvenile> nickrud: that did it. Thanks
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yogurt: Double check.. I think it is the one you want
[00:16] <tarvid> nominativo, click on your network then ok
[00:16] <nominativo> i filled anything there
[00:16] <CruCio> ok then what would be the point in download kubuntu desktop ??
[00:16] <CruCio> will it be running alongside ubuntu ?
[00:16] <exneo> hello
[00:16] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: nope, it's what I thought it was, the image during boot time
[00:16] <soundray> CruCio: you can choose whether to use gnome or kde at login time
[00:16] <Spenser309> Is this the appropriate place to ask about a problem in Hardy?
[00:16] <exneo> I am learning xml by itself and I need a good dev suite for ubuntu 7.04 help
[00:16] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: I'm talking of the time in between gdm going away and your background loading, after login
[00:16] <barry_> i need help getting my Audigy sound card to work
[00:17] <cotton> can anyone help me partition my flash drive?
[00:17] <crimsun> barry_: what do you need?  (describe the symptoms)
[00:17] <Spenser309> cotton: you can use gparted most likely
[00:17] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: but that link will come handy, thanks
[00:17] <barry_> no sound at all
[00:17] <CruCio> and when i decide to use KDE , will i be logged on to kubuntu desktop ?? or only the gnome will be replaced by KDE ?
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cotton: Use gparted and treat it like any other drive
[00:17] <cotton> spenser309: is gparted free?
[00:17] <Spenser309> yes
[00:17] <crimsun> barry_: download http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh and run it, then tell me the url it generates
[00:17] <Spenser309> cotton: sudo aptitude install gparted
[00:17] <nickrud> Ashnal: ping
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> cotton: They even have a stand alone gparted livecd
[00:18] <Cpudan80> CruCio: When you choose to login as KDE - you just the KDE "look and feel" -- your documents and stuff are all carried over
[00:18] <soundray> CruCio: if you choose a kde session, you will have a desktop environment that is exactly the same one as a kubuntu installation would provide
[00:18] <aruonoaru> jack_sparrow can i pm you i need help
[00:18] <cotton> is gparted a distro of linux?
[00:18] <CruCio> ohh
[00:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello all
[00:18] <CruCio> good
[00:18] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Basically when you switch between KDE and gnome, all you do is change the "front end" "look and feel"
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: In channel please.
[00:18] <CruCio> this is what i wanted to hear
[00:18] <barry_> how do i run that file crimsun i save it 2 desktop im new to linux
[00:18] <CruCio> so it will be exactly as if i was running only ubuntu right ?
[00:18] <tarvid> nominativo, dhcp no password for WPA Personal
[00:19] <CruCio> kubuntu*
[00:19] <Spenser309> cotton: it's like partition magic.  It has a livecd but can also be used as a standalone application
[00:19] <tarvid> that should turn encryption off
[00:19] <CruCio> exactly as if i was running KUBUNTU*
[00:19] <CruCio> ?
[00:19] <Cpudan80> CruCio: yes
[00:19] <cotton> anyone have a link?
[00:19] <nominativo> no i've got static ip
[00:19] <CruCio> good
[00:19] <aruonoaru> i cannot delete the file the way you told me
[00:19] <cotton> for the live cd
[00:19] <Spenser309> cotton: for your application the standalone application is all you need
[00:19] <soundray> CruCio: no, because you will still have the choice to log out and use gnome instead of KDE
[00:19] <nominativo> and a wep key
[00:19] <cotton> oh ok
[00:19] <Hazarath> Need help playing back a high quality [1,200Kbps bitrate] film on my laptop. The stream plays with a lot of frame skips, effectively stammering. I tried: Mplayer with all codecs, as well as VLC, both playing the same way. I need to somehow either get a different codec to help compensate, or either a converter that at least has a UI.
[00:19] <cotton> is there a version for windows
[00:19] <Ashnal> crimsun, ive been having some issues with sound lately, crakling in certain games, and I cannot get the module for my sound card to load
[00:19] <Spenser309> umm not sure
[00:19] <Spenser309> cotton: umm not sure
[00:19] <Cpudan80> CruCio: soundray's definition is slightly more accurate
[00:19] <Spenser309> lets see
[00:20] <tarvid> if your router serves DHCP and is open life will be easier\
[00:20] <barry_> do i just double click it
[00:20] <CruCio> hmm ok so what ur saying is that , when i choose KDE my desktop be kubuntu
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: If you cannot delete the file with root/gksudo access, it is in use or something is very wrong.. Are you trying to delete a mounted drive icon perhaps?
[00:20] <CruCio> and when i choose gnome my desktop will be ubuntu right ?
[00:20] <nominativo> yes but i share the router
[00:20] <soundray> CruCio: only if you install the kubuntu-desktop package and all its dependencies
[00:20] <CruCio> yes
[00:20] <tarvid> but the ip setup will not prevent a connection so i would look at the wep key first
[00:20] <CruCio> thats what am planing on doing
[00:21] <cotton> ok...yeah im new to linux...and mines screwed up...first the gnome wasnt working right so i wiped it and reinstalled linux and now my synaptic aint workin
[00:21] <nominativo> ok
[00:21] <crimsun> barry_: open a Terminal, then type:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[00:21] <CruCio> and anyways what if the difference between KDE and GNOME ?
[00:21] <aruonoaru> no trying to delete java to do a reintall with previous version 1.4.2 to run frostwire
[00:21] <soundray> CruCio: you will find out
[00:21] <cotton> so if i put my ubuntu 7.10 in what do i do to update now?
[00:21] <nominativo> i filled with my key almost anything in my pc
[00:21] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Just different "looks"
[00:21] <draeath> testing...
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: two entirely different Desktops managers
[00:21] <rsk> CruCio: gnome uses gtk kde uses qt, not so different else :)
[00:21] <barry_> http://pastebin.ca/869227 there ya go
[00:22] <Cpudan80> They both make the same underlying system calls
[00:22] <CruCio> soundray , am i know tnothing about linux
[00:22] <CruCio> am really new to it
[00:22] <Cpudan80> Although they may go about it in two different way
[00:22] <tarvid> nominativo, by sharing I assume you mean there is someone else connected at this time
[00:22] <Cpudan80> ways*
[00:22] <nominativo> yes
[00:22] <soundray> CruCio: the way to find out things is to try them
[00:22] <Spenser309> cotton: i cant tell but I doesnt look like it.  Anyways heres the live cd http://download.tuxfamily.org/gpartedlive/gparted-livecd-0.3.4-11.iso
[00:22] <tarvid> if any key works then you are not running wep on the router
[00:22] <CruCio> yes exactly , just like no matter what i did i never managed to install java on ubuntu
[00:23] <nominativo> 1 ubuntu user else and 2 wincocks user
[00:23] <tarvid> try wpa personal with no passowrd or key
[00:23] <CruCio> does kubuntu has the sypnatic ?
[00:23] <CruCio> where u can install stuff ?
[00:23] <nominativo> why?
[00:23] <Spenser309> Is this an apporpriate place to get help with Hardy Heron?
[00:23] <fnord123> hi all. I have a problem where my ubuntu gutsy laptop locks up for about 10 seconds periodically. The system monitor has a dark blue background, which I think it means is IO behaviour (?)
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: HAs a different gui package manager....
[00:23] <tarvid> because that will turn off encryotion on your end
[00:23] <Ashnal> crimsun, ive been having some issues with sound lately, crackling in certain games, and I cannot get the module for my sound card to load
[00:23] <soundray> CruCio: you can use synaptic in kubuntu, but you may prefer to use adept
[00:23] <fnord123> Has anyone heard of this issue and if so, do they know where I can look to fix it?
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Spenser309: Yes, you need to go to #Ubuntu+1
[00:24] <nominativo> bu wpa has  a lot of problem
[00:24] <nominativo> anyway
[00:24] <Spenser309> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks
[00:24] <CruCio> Ok.. and anyways is there anyone in here Using kubuntu or ubuntu on their PS3 ?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:24] <nominativo> i tried to take off the key
[00:24] <aruonoaru> Jack_Sparrow no trying to delete java to do a reintall with previous version 1.4.2 to run frostwire
[00:24] <crimsun> barry_: oh, do this:  echo options snd-intel8x0 index=-1|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[00:24] <nominativo> and it's just the same
[00:24] <tarvid> we just want to turn off encryption and I think that is the way to do that
[00:24] <genewitch> soundray, genii: None of those options helped. i think i have to recompile the kernel or dig around and find the exact driver name so i can modprobe it
[00:24] <nominativo> i mean the same as now
[00:24] <barry_> now what
[00:25] <Qwexer> what is that link to paste error msgs as to not spam?
[00:25] <crimsun> barry_: that entire string should be pasted verbatim
[00:25] <solexious> m
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: Downgrading seldom works as planned...  One of the problems people face when they venture outside official repos
[00:25] <crimsun> barry_: it should echo back "options snd-intel8x0 index=-1" to you, then return a prompt
[00:25] <CruCio> soundray,jack_sparrow any hopes in finding a java_plugin for PPC64 ?
[00:25] <barry_> i put wat u said in terminal
[00:25] <rafaelsoaresbr> !real
[00:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:25] <tarvid> nominativo, my router is not encrypted and my ubuntu machine says wpa personal with no password and it works and i am using it right now to connect to freenode
[00:25] <soundray> genewitch: you don't need any special drivers to use a synaptics touchpad.
[00:25] <CruCio> :(
[00:25] <nominativo> my pc thinks it's connected but it doesn't work!!
[00:25] <cotton> is there a way for me to get more than 2 workspaces in ubuntu 7.04?
[00:25] <nominativo> mmmh
[00:25] <crimsun> barry_: what's the output from `tail -1 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base`?
[00:26] <CruCio> i really love ubuntu on my ps3 but unable to install java really suck :(
[00:26] <tarvid> then iwlist ap should show that
[00:26] <soundray> genewitch: you may have to set it up in xorg.conf
[00:26] <Qwexer> what no one knows? I dont want to paste an error and get yelled at for spamming
[00:26] <PriceChild> cotton, right click the workspace switcher, preferences then change it
[00:26] <lix> cottton: create a second user
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: It isnt our project any more.. no idea...
[00:26] <crimsun> Ashnal: download and run the script I mentioned above
[00:26] <minimec> nominativo: what kind of connection?
[00:26] <genewitch> according to the 0.14.6 driver page certain options have to be turned on in the kernel compile... all i know is my kernel doesn't see the synaptics device
[00:26] <barry_> options snd-intel8x0 index=-1
[00:26] <aruonoaru> well then i don't know any other way to make frostwire run and now i installed java directory to desktop and can't remove it
[00:26] <nominativo> wireless
[00:26] <jrib> Qwexer: then use a pastebin
[00:26] <solexious> m
[00:26] <crimsun> barry_: good, now reboot
[00:26] <nblracer> hey im looking for docs or walkthough on seting up a Ubuntu user network, so that no matter what computer you sign in you have accses to all your files and settings
[00:26] <barry_> mmk want me to come back in here
[00:26] <tarvid> iwconfig on mine shows connected to the right ap
[00:26] <nominativo> broadcom4318 ndiswrapper using gutsy
[00:26] <jrib> !paste | Qwexer
[00:26] <ubotu> Qwexer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:27] <Spenser309> cotton: right click on the virtual desktop icon theres a prefrences option click that
[00:27] <tarvid> now if you are connecdted and there is no traffic try dhcp
[00:27] <barry_> what do i do after i reboot
[00:27] <tarvid> most routers serve dhcp by default
[00:27] <aruonoaru> jack_sparrow well then i don't know any other way to make frostwire run and now i installed java directory to desktop and can't remove it
[00:27] <crimsun> barry_: nothing.  Your audigy will be the default audio device.
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: We talked the other day about hda Intel page being wrong.  I was checking into it and I could net even get the -driver section to work..  let me know when you get a sec..
[00:27] <barry_> okay thanks
[00:27] <nominativo> no my router has configured in static ip
[00:28] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: what couldn't you get to work?  1.0.16rc1 works fine here.
[00:28] <Ashnal> crimsun, options snd-ca0106 index=0 model=3stack position_fix=0 single_cmd=0
[00:28] <Ashnal> I recognize this line as one i put in a file the other day trying to fix things, but i forgot which file it was in
[00:28] <nominativo> is configured
[00:28] <nominativo> ^^;
[00:28] <tarvid> if you are connected can you ping your router?
[00:28] <crimsun> Ashnal: uh...
[00:28] <nominativo> no
[00:28] <nominativo> that's the problem
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Let me see what one I dl'd
[00:28] <minimec> nominativo: And you guess that the connection is up? Do you have the blue %-Indication of the wireless connecton or do you see two black screens in your taskbar?
[00:28] <CruCio> what makes you guys chooses Ubuntu over Kubuntu ?
[00:28] <tarvid> are you on the same subnet with the same mask?
[00:28] <nominativo> blue
[00:28] <soundray> genewitch: btw, here the device name is /dev/psaux
[00:28]  * genewitch doesn't like kde
[00:28] <MAKINGYOURXCHATL> hello
[00:28] <crimsun> Ashnal: the model, position_fix, and single_cmd parameters make no sense for that driver.  Those are for snd-hda-intel, not snd-ca0106.  Why did you use snd-ca0106?
[00:29] <jrib> CruCio: personal preference.  But why choose one over the other?  Just install both and choose kde or gnome at the login screen
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: 1.0.9 is the one I saw at the link.. did I miss something?
[00:29] <genewitch> soundray: thanks, i tried that one as well
[00:29] <brobostigon> CruCio: gnome or kde
[00:29] <Qwexer> well hope this works, I tried to open synaptic and got this error  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53092/
[00:29] <Ashnal> crimsun, uh desperate messing with things?
[00:29] <Breakage> CruCio: was speed and minimal desktop, but i have a highish end system and now use xubuntu.
[00:29] <_Codeman_> where does the kernel tree get installed to?
[00:29] <wyclif>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[00:29] <minimec> nominativo: ok.  I thought I got the latest from the ones listed.
[00:30] <CruCio> ohh the mouse ?
[00:30] <Breakage> CruCio: the mouse :)
[00:30] <nominativo> nor 'ping my.rou.t.er'
[00:30] <minimec> nominativo: do 'iwconfig' in that same terminal
[00:30] <Ashnal> crimsun, ah which file are they in so i can erase them?
[00:30] <genewitch> nominativo: give me a pastebin of the console command ifconfig
[00:30] <CruCio> looks pretty much like a Rat to me
[00:30] <Breakage> CruCio: striped down to like 1.5gb but with compiz and emerald ofc.
[00:30] <nominativo> yes, it gives me no parameters of my essid
[00:30] <crimsun> Ashnal: so, first things first, fix them.  Did you use /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?  I have no idea what strange commands you used.
[00:30] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> am i making your x chat line too far to the right?
[00:30] <nominativo> i don't know why
[00:30] <Breakage> CruCio: I think mines a rat its evil.
[00:30] <LjL> yes.
[00:30] <rafaelsoaresbr> i just want to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. how big are the packages?
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Newest one in the list is  File: alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a.tar.bz2
[00:31] <tarvid> nominativo, paste the output if iwconfig
[00:31] <Ashnal> crimsun, i just edited a conf file
[00:31] <minimec> nominativo: So you are not connected...
[00:31] <nominativo> ok
[00:31] <Ashnal> crimsun, somewhere in etc
[00:31] <genewitch> A lot of routers don't broadcast bssid these days
[00:31] <genewitch> so you have to know what it is
[00:31] <tarvid> CruCio, you probably have two versions of apt running, restart may be the easiest way to clean up
[00:31] <nominativo> i'm wired connected right now...^^;
[00:31] <LjL> WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW: this channel is not for jokes, it's for Ubuntu support.
[00:31] <_Codeman_> Can anyone tell me where linux-source gets installed to?
[00:31] <nominativo> paste where?
[00:32] <Breakage> CruCio: also I chose xfce over gnome over kde because of the mouse smoothing issues with the other two. I have a razer deathadder.
[00:32] <nominativo> !paste
[00:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:32] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: the most current one is ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.16rc1.tar.bz2
[00:32] <soundray> _Codeman_: as a compressed file to /usr/src
[00:32] <Breakage> accel*
[00:32] <genewitch> does anyone here have a laptop with a PCMCIA soundblaster audigy working?
[00:32] <CrazyWulf> I'm having problems getting flash player to work in Firefox.    I installed the plugin but the flash videos and such just won't play
[00:32] <CruCio> xfce ?
[00:32] <Spenser309> _Codeman_; somewhere in /usr/
[00:32] <CruCio> ohh yea the mouse right ?
[00:32] <ConstyXIV> anyone have any luck trying to run SC2K?
[00:32] <CrazyWulf> sometimes it will even freeze up the browser
[00:32] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> thanks
[00:32] <ConstyXIV> in wine?
[00:32] <Breakage> CruCio: yeah lol
[00:32] <Qwexer> ty I didnt know where at first it worked
[00:33] <adrock358> Hey guys.  How do you find a USB ID?
[00:33] <soundray> adrock358: with lsusb
[00:33] <nominativo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53094/
[00:33] <tarvid> CruCio, Xubuntu is a good choice for older machines
[00:33] <Breakage> CruCio: Just made me think im using a deathadder to control the mouse :D
[00:33] <brobostigon> xubuntu is lighter, smaller
[00:33] <CruCio> screw the rat , am gonna go with the engine and the dwarf
[00:33] <nominativo> i included also iwlist scan
[00:33] <Breakage> tarvid: and new if you like responsiveness
[00:34] <CruCio> or should i say the gnome
[00:34] <Phenom_> Hello
[00:34] <Phenom_> Is this where I can ask for help with Ubuntu?
[00:34] <CruCio> lol
[00:34] <CruCio> yea..
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun:If you look at this list you will understand my confusion..  ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
[00:34] <CruCio> whenever you log on xubuntu ,the rat starts to run
[00:34] <CruCio> making the thing spin
[00:34] <minimec> nominativo: You are not connected, I guess. No ESSID and no ?Signal Level'
[00:34] <tarvid> nominativo, the router is encrypted, you will have to match the key exactly.
[00:35] <adrock358> You know, I tried that and I got a single set of numbers.  I'm following this guide, where we are editing files, and in that file they have the usb as a pair of ID's denoted {xx@xx, xx@xx}
[00:35] <soundray> CruCio: you're not ontopic any more -- please stop
[00:35] <cobra738> hey anyone is familiar with ruby ?
[00:35] <nominativo> i've got the key
[00:35] <tarvid> i connect to many different aps, all of mine are open - not encrypted by choice'
[00:35] <Phenom_> Ok I have installed Advanced Desktop Effects in Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty and when I go to launch Quake 1 is loads in windowed mode,  but the transparent effect REALLY slows the 3D down, how can I exclude certain applications from using effects?
[00:35] <nominativo> i matched exactly
[00:35] <tarvid> makes life easier for me and I get to share a resource
[00:36] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not sure why you're not using the list on the front page (http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page)...
[00:36] <nominativo> minimec do you see?
[00:36] <CruCio> so soundray ?? what do i type in terminal again ?
[00:36] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: (see the development version column on the trailing side)
[00:36] <CruCio> to get the Kubuntu-desktop ?
[00:36] <nominativo> do you see my network wlan-ap ?
[00:36] <CruCio> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[00:36] <CruCio> sudo*
[00:36] <Breakage> CruCio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:36] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:36] <crimsun> Ashnal: I believe the one you used is stated above
[00:36] <minimec> nominativo: be aware that you often have the choise between ASCII and HEX when you enter the password in the Network Manager
[00:36] <Ashnal> crimsun, okay well that was just a stupid mistake of mine, would you happen to know if the ca0106 module has a power save feature that needs to be turned off? this fixed the sound crackling for my onboard sound
[00:36] <adrock358> soundray.  You know, I tried that and I got a single set of numbers.  I'm following this guide, where we are editing files, and in that file they have the usb as a pair of ID's denoted {xx@xx, xx@xx}.  Hey thanks for the help yesterday.
[00:37] <nominativo> yes i know
[00:37] <CruCio> it wouldn't prompt me for anything ?
[00:37] <nominativo> it's hex
[00:37] <kubitz> Hello. As new user, I don't know if this a Gnome or Ubuntu issue, but when I try to write DVD-Rs it tells me that it only supports DVD+Rs.  I ought to add that the device used to write DVD-Rs
[00:37] <crimsun> Ashnal: yes, but it's not an option per se.
[00:37] <soundray> adrock358: it's probably just reformatted
[00:37] <CruCio> soundray  am using PPC64 wouldn't matter right ?
[00:37] <Ashnal> crimsun, how would i go about doing that? as my sound card crackles when playing some games
[00:37] <CruCio> architecture is PPC64
[00:38] <nominativo> my light brights with a constant frequency
[00:38] <nominativo> it's horrible!!
[00:38] <tarvid> nominativo, interrupt your partner, turn encryption off on both ends and try again, if it works that way, you will be sure it is the password. You are within reach of two aps, both encrypted, the essid and the encryption type and the password must all match
[00:38] <brobostigon> CruCio: dont you mean g5??
[00:38] <minimec> nominativo: what does ifconfig say?
[00:38] <CruCio> No
[00:38] <CruCio> i have a PPC64 = playstation 3
[00:38] <brobostigon> ok
[00:39] <Phenom_> How do I run a program fullscreen? I am trying to get ProQuake(Quake 1) running but it seems to run at 2 frames per second in window mode
[00:39] <CruCio> or do i need g5 in order for the kubuntu-desktop to install properly ?
[00:39] <nominativo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53095/
[00:39] <Breakage> Whats the fastest gtk2-engine out at the moment? I think its murrine but not sure.
[00:39] <crimsun> Ashnal: the poorly documented 'alsactl power off'
[00:39] <tarvid> CruCio, never tried a ps3 but DSL is smaller and faster to install and play with
[00:39] <soundray> CruCio: look, you can either go and use what you've learned, or waste yours and everyone's time here by going on and on and on about it.
[00:40] <brobostigon> CruCio: if you have a ps3, i cant be g5
[00:40] <Ashnal> crimsun, what would i do with that?
[00:40] <CrazyWulf> I'm having major problems with the flash player in firefox.   I installed the plugin and now if I go to a page that has flash video or something of that sort....Not only will the video not play, but sometimes my system will completely freeze up :/     Any ideas please?
[00:40] <nominativo> tarvid i tried yet removing key it doesn't work!
[00:40] <minimec> nominativo: Hmm... You have an IP..... Can you ping the router?
[00:40] <nominativo> no
[00:40] <crimsun> Ashnal: toggle it as appropriate if it's in fact the culprit.
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: ./configure goes through but make..  make[3]: *** [/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.16rc1/acore/info_oss.o] Error 1
[00:41] <Ashnal> crimsun, where is that setting located?
[00:42] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: that's a bit sparse; would you pastebin the entire command and compile std{out,err}?
[00:42] <tarvid> nominativo, wlan-ap looks like plain wep vitelloni is wpa2
[00:42] <crimsun> Ashnal: it's not a setting; it's a poorly documented hidden ioctl.
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: sure
[00:42] <nominativo> mine is wlan-ap
[00:42] <minimec> nominativo: Can you install some software on that machine (Ethernet Connection)?
[00:42] <nominativo> is wep i know
[00:42] <Ashnal> crimsun, where would i toggle it then? in some obscure config file?
[00:43] <nominativo> yes, i wired now
[00:43] <nominativo> what kind of software?
[00:43] <tarvid> nominativo, then make sure the ap selected is wlan-ap
[00:43] <solexious> c
[00:43] <crimsun> Ashnal: at the cli
[00:43] <nominativo> how?
[00:43] <Spenser309> Anyone know how to install xen in hardy?
[00:43] <Ashnal> crimsun, or just enter it straight into the console?
[00:43] <Spenser309> Ubuntu+1 aint cutting it
[00:44] <Ashnal> crimsun, alright will it stick between reboots?
[00:44] <minimec> nominativo: Try to install the software 'wifi-radar' and try to play around with it.
[00:44] <tarvid> the network applet where we started and the dropdown box it should show wlan-ap and vitteloni
[00:44] <nominativo> i've got it ^_^
[00:44] <nominativo> it tells me i'm connected to none
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53099/
[00:44] <kubitz> CrazyWulf the easiest way to fix that I found is to put the libflashplayer.so file into your home directory for Firefox which seems to be /home/user/.mozilla/plugins/ or your equivalent it seems to look there first
[00:45] <crimsun> Ashnal: no.
[00:45] <tarvid> what does the dropdown box say
[00:45] <kubitz> kubitz then I used locate to find any other copies and removed them
[00:45] <nominativo> Connected to None (IP Address <IP_ADDRESS>)
[00:45] <duvnel1> I'm getting the following X error
[00:45] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __glXFindDRIScreen)
[00:45] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[00:45] <minimec> nominativo: Try to establish a connection without encryption first...
[00:45] <julz> how do i use the sudo command to gain admin privelages when starting synaptic from the launcher?
[00:45] <duvnel1> (and it's obviously making everything slow)
[00:46] <nominativo> there is also a non encrypted network
[00:46] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: you must not be compiling against 2.6.24-rc headers.
[00:46] <tarvid> what is in the Network id BOX
[00:46] <Ashnal> crimsun,ashnal@ashnal-desktop:~$ alsactl power off
[00:46] <Ashnal> alsactl: Unknown command 'power'...
[00:46] <Ashnal> it seems it doesnt exist?
[00:46] <nominativo> but it can't have an ip address
[00:46] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: (BTW, no need to `sudo make`.  `make` is sufficient.)
[00:46] <Miron> I've got a network card that isn't working, but it's supposedly plug-and-play for ubuntu
[00:46] <Miron> but it isn't showing up in 7.10
[00:46] <tarvid> if you have static ip it will
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: thanks.. I thought I had the headers right.. let me check,
[00:46] <duvnel1> what happened was that I tried using ATI's driver from their website, but that screwed everything up.. I've sense re-installed the flgrx and ati debs and xorgs debs.. but it's really slo
[00:46] <nominativo> yesterday it had an ip
[00:47] <nominativo> but cannot browse
[00:47] <nominativo> nor ping that router
[00:47] <tarvid> ip is secondary, connection is independent of ip
[00:47] <tarvid> what is in the network id box?
[00:47] <nominativo> is not mine
[00:47] <nominativo> W GBMF
[00:48] <minimec> nominativo: check ifconfig again... 'Connected to None (IP Address <IP_ADDRESS>)' <-- is your ethernet connection...
[00:48] <Miron> Do I need to download drivers for the WDA-2320? Nobody's had a problem with it yet, but it's not showing up on my computer...
[00:48] <tarvid> click the down arrow and see if yours shows up
[00:48] <nominativo> that's the essid
[00:48] <crimsun> Ashnal: it's available in older versions of alsactl
[00:48] <kubitz> Miron wireless or wired what make?
[00:48] <tarvid> click the down arrow
[00:48] <Miron> D-Link and wireless
[00:48] <nominativo> it's just the same
[00:48] <Ashnal> crimsun, i see the documentation page http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Alsactl what would the card number be?
[00:49] <tarvid> the down arrow should drop a list, what's in the list,
[00:49] <tarvid> be explicit
[00:49] <nominativo> there is wlan-ap (mine) and another with wpa
[00:49] <crimsun> Ashnal: whichever is from /proc/asound/cards
[00:49] <tarvid> select wlan-ap
[00:49] <tarvid> then ok
[00:49] <nominativo> yes
[00:49] <Miron> It's supposedly plug-and-play, but it hasn't been for me. Base install from the latest CD, and no updates.
[00:49] <nominativo> i did hours ago
[00:50] <tarvid> do it now
[00:50] <julz> how do i launcg synaptic with admin privelages?
[00:50] <nominativo> i do
[00:50] <rsk> julz: sudo synaptic
[00:50] <tarvid> now what is in the network id box
[00:50] <dracula2> what kind of computer do you own?
[00:50] <nominativo> nothing
[00:50] <nominativo> else
[00:50] <genewitch> anyone know how to disable onboard sound so my creative labs PCMCIA card will take over?
[00:51] <julz> rsk: i do this and get no error msg, but synaptic still won't launch...
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: I checked my kernel uname and I have the headers for that generic kernel installed.. what to check next
[00:51] <crimsun> genewitch: blacklist it.  See /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for the syntax.
[00:51] <tarvid> genewitch, bios
[00:51] <kubitz> Miron is it usb or pcmcia
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> genewitch: bios/cmos
[00:51] <Miron> PCMCIA card
[00:51] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: is it dapper's, edgy's, feisty's, gutsy's, or hardy's?
[00:51] <Miron> or PCI rather
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gutsy
[00:52] <rsk> weird
[00:52] <crimsun> 2.6.22-14-generic?
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: normal updtates
[00:52] <rsk> sounds like a broken system somehow
[00:52] <kubitz> Miron I was just reading about some issues with those http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP
[00:52] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: worked earlier, but I could have been using hardy mistakenly.  I'll look in a few hours.
[00:52] <nominativo> there is nothing else in the box now
[00:52] <Ashnal> crimsun, seems power is no longer an option in this alsactr
[00:53] <genewitch> crimsun: thanks, my bios only has 2 options... boot drive and vram
[00:53] <julz> rsk: it launches fine without the sudo, but then i can't apply changes. im trying to fix this problem-->  http://www.ubuntux.org/gnome-panels-not-working-or-responding
[00:53] <Miron> I don't think my card is on that list
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: THANKS.. NOT NEEDED FOR ME.. BUT WANTED TO LOOK AT IN SINCE WE TALKED
[00:53] <tarvid> tell me what is in the box explicitly
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Sorry for the caps people
[00:53] <nominativo> maybe i will return to bcm43xx driver
[00:53] <kubitz>  It says D-Link DWL-650 [older version, NOT new CardBus ones or 650+]
[00:53] <kubitz> Does you card fall into that class?
[00:53] <Miron> Mine's a WDA=2320 though
[00:53] <nominativo> tarvid: nothing else now
[00:53] <Miron> er wda-2320
[00:53] <kubitz> Ah right
[00:54] <tarvid> nominativo, you mean it is blank and there are no characters of any kind?
[00:54] <nominativo> now two networks but there is still mine
[00:54] <nominativo> yes but it depends
[00:54] <duvnel1> what is AIGLX in the xorg logs
[00:54] <tarvid> nominativo, then click on yours and see if it sticks
[00:54] <nominativo> i clicked on mine
[00:54] <nominativo> ooooh
[00:55] <Bizzeh> hey
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: Having some video card issues?
[00:55] <Bizzeh> how do i enable my scroll wheel on ubuntu?
[00:55] <nominativo> it's not easy as it seems
[00:55] <Flare183> !away > miron_away
[00:55] <duvnel1> Jack_Sparrow: yes.. repeating
[00:56] <tarvid> nominativo, it can be very frustrating
[00:56] <Perdente> since the last update my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG has stopped working and I was wondering if anyone could help me get it back up
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: Which ATI video card?
[00:56] <nominativo> thank you anyway...i will resolve it i know, by myself
[00:56] <duvnel1>  I'm getting the following X error
[00:56] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __glXFindDRIScreen)
[00:56] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[00:56] <nominativo> it's difficult to explain so many things
[00:56] <crwlr> evenin again, everybody.  i am doing a fresh install on my desktop so i can get this twinview deal setup.  got any specialists in here tonight?!?!
[00:56] <tarvid> but did your essid stick?
[00:56] <nominativo> anyway i posted in the ubuntu forum
[00:56] <Flare183> !twinview
[00:56] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[00:56] <duvnel1> what happened was that I tried using ATI's driver from their website, but that screwed everything up.. I've sense re-installed the flgrx and ati debs and xorgs debs.. but it's still messed up
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: Which ATI video card?
[00:57] <nominativo> search for "Annalisa"
[00:57] <duvnel1> it seems that something installed is still looking for that symbol that didn't used to be required
[00:57] <minimec> nominativo: You could try to use the 'iwconfig commands' like 'sudo iwconfig wth1 essid wlan-ag'
[00:57] <nominativo> 'night
[00:57] <kubitz> Miron it suggest here http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link that you need the madwifi driver but then it lists you model as pci
[00:57] <nominativo> i tried!!!
[00:57] <nominativo> but
[00:57] <Flare183> Calm down people
[00:57] <nominativo> iwconfig doesn't listen to me!!!
[00:57] <duvnel1> Jack_Sparrow: Radeon Mobility X600.. I had compiz working perfectly prior to trying the driver directly from ATI
[00:57] <agentmarmite> anyone know much about installing Creative XFi drivers in Ubuntu?! I have no sound!!! Thanks.
[00:57] <Flare183> good grief
[00:58] <Perdente> since the last update my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG has stopped working and I was wondering if anyone could help me get it back up
[00:58] <tarvid> trust the applet
[00:58] <tarvid> it works
[00:58] <Perdente> is there anyway to un-upgrade so I can take the last upgrade back?
[00:58] <minimec> nominativo: Wish yo all the best... ;)
[00:58] <Flare183> !repeat | Perdente (can't resist)
[00:58] <ubotu> Perdente (can't resist): Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:58] <Kilroy> Perdente, have you showed it some pron yet?
[00:58] <nominativo> the applet? ok i will ^_^
[00:58] <rsk> agentmarmite: there is only drivers for x-fi under x86_64bit linux (ubuntu) and they are in beta. should be able to get them from their site
[00:58] <nominativo> bye guys!!!
[00:58] <Pici> Perdente: no, downgrading is not supported.
[00:59] <Perdente> pici, ok that's what I thought, plus then I would have to stop forever or figure out which one it is
[00:59] <agentmarmite> rsk: thankyou. i have downloaded the drivers and im fairly sure im using the 64-bit Ubuntu, but i cant seem to get the installer working
[00:59] <agentmarmite> rsk: im somewhat of a noob (second day using ubuntu switching from XP!)
[00:59] <tarvid> Perdente, what is the issue?
[00:59] <histo> Bizzeh: System > Preferences > Mouse
[00:59] <Perdente> kilroy, no I have another comp for that
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700
[00:59] <TheZealot> is there a script I can run for Gnome in Ubuntu to let me make advanced settings to the appearance of my windows? I.E. make windows not Snap-To the top and btotom of my screen?
[00:59] <agentmarmite> rsk: is there a way i can check my OS version/type?
[00:59] <Perdente> tarvid, my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[01:00] <Perdente> stopped working since the last upgrade
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: You may need to go to #Compiz to get that fixed...
[01:00] <duvnel1> Jack_Sparrow: it's not blacklisted, and it was working fine
[01:00] <duvnel1> k
[01:00] <tarvid> Perdente, lets start with the applet
[01:00] <Tomcat_> TheZealot: Some of that should be in "gconf-editor"
[01:00] <kubitz> I ave to go now
[01:00] <tarvid> click on the networking icon in the upper right and then config manually
[01:00] <TheZealot> thanx Tomcat
[01:00] <krucial> ernet.org
[01:00] <duvnel1> I think the www-ATI driver may have replaced some of the GL libs.. I'll reinstall mesa as well
[01:00] <Tomcat_> TheZealot: Check /apps/compiz
[01:00] <Perdente> tarvid, ok umm, nm-applet says that I don't have wireless anymore, only networking
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: What does fglrxinfo  show
[01:01] <tarvid> Perdente, try a depmod
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: The OpenGL vendor string should read ATI and not Mesa
[01:02] <duvnel1> that ATI is the renderer, but the xorg log definately shows (as you can see above) that it dropped to using teh software renderer (apparently within the ATI driver itself)
[01:02] <tarvid> Perdente, then try restarting udev and watch the logs
[01:02] <icesword> hi,body
[01:02] <duvnel1> or AIGLX itself
[01:02] <duvnel1> I'm abou to restart X.. back in a few
[01:02] <grekkos> for what reason would grub stop loading (or load very slowly) and how can I fix this?
[01:03] <Perdente> tarvid, sorry I'm kinda've a noob, how would I restart udev?
[01:03] <Perdente> and where does depmod save to?
[01:03] <ehc> where are icons stored?
[01:03] <grekkos> I thought my hard drive was fried but I can still mount it from my ubuntu install disc
[01:03] <icesword> i want to ask which file controls java ,for fonts failure?
[01:03] <tarvid> Perdente, open a terminal window then sudo bash
[01:03] <grekkos> !grub
[01:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:04] <Perdente> tarvid, ok
[01:04] <druke> what is the plugin to make compiz layer the windows on cube rotate
[01:04] <tarvid> then type depmod
[01:04] <tarvid> it will try and fix missing dependencies in modules
[01:04] <icesword> how to configure java ,for wrong fonts
[01:04] <leprasmurf> hello all.  trying to resize an lvm.  When I try to resize it, I get the following error:  /sbin/e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/vg/myth
[01:05] <TheZealot> Anyone ever have a window maximized and when you hover over the top bar you get this funky pulldown grey bar that gets in the way?
[01:05] <leprasmurf> I know I've umounted the volume, and I've stopped any service I could see in ps that I didn't need
[01:05] <Creationist> I'm trying to watch a DVD (which used to work fine
[01:05] <Perdente> tarvid, ok, it is now on the next line
[01:05] <Creationist> But now VLC just won't load it
[01:05] <Creationist> Grr... stupid enter key.  Let me try again
[01:05] <tarvid> Perdente, ifconfig
[01:06] <tarvid> Perdente, does your wireless connection show up?
[01:06] <Creationist> I'm trying to watch a DVD, which used to work flawlessly, but now VLC won't load it (no messages), MPlayer won't play ANYTHING (and never has), and Kaffeine says I may not have permission.  I've installed the css keys and such already.  What gives?
[01:07] <tarvid> Perdente, then iwconfig
[01:07] <Perdente> tarvid, one sec, I am actually on the same computer that has the fault, but I am using a firends linksys plugin, so I guess I will take it out run depmod again and see if eth0 fixes
[01:07] <agentmarmite> guys any clue how to get my Creative XFi Elite Pro soundcard to work with the drivers I have from Creative? Thanks
[01:07] <veynom> !agpgart
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agpgart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Perdente> tarvid, right now though, eth0 shows up, but it always shows 0 packets, collissions or anything
[01:08] <tarvid> Perdente, iwconfig should show more info
[01:08] <Ette> anyone remember where the file is where i would stick an alias to keep it permaninty
[01:08] <Ette> permanently *
[01:08] <jrib> Ette: ~/.bashrc
[01:08] <eugman> how can I make it so the equivalent of dhclient eth1 happens automatically when my server boots up?
[01:08] <Perdente> tarvid, eth0 right now has no wireless extensions
[01:08] <prodigel2> Hi. Anyone can help with an ubuntu - postgres question?
[01:08] <Ette> jirb: thank
[01:08] <Ette> !anyone
[01:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:09]  * Creationist is so tired of Ubuntu functionality breaking for no apparant reason... probably due to incompetent "updates..."?
[01:09] <Kilroy> Creationist, maybe god has something to do with it?
[01:09] <veynom> whats the difference between NvAGP and agpgart?
[01:09] <ion> usb question: Hey I have a rt73 wifi card and when I plug in my sandisk sansa my wireless disconnects, how can I fix this
[01:09] <tarvid> Perdente, my iwconfig http://pastebin.ca/869265
[01:10] <Creationist> Kilroy: My, aren't you clever?  Shush
[01:10] <icesword> hi,i want configure java,coz font hash,how to?
[01:10] <Kilroy> Creationist, yes master
[01:10] <prodigel2> I've installed postre 8.2 om my ubuntu 7.10 computer, also phppgadmin, all without errors. The problem is that while trying to login with psql from console with some user/pasword I've set up it fails to authenticate, using phppgadmin it succeeds.
[01:11] <Joelito> Hi everyone
[01:11] <soldats> Creationist, that isnt the kind of statement to make on an ubuntu "support" channel
[01:11] <Joelito> does anyone know a linux alternative to create flash animations?
[01:11] <Perdente> tarvid, my iwconfig with eth2 being a plugin linksys wireless and my ifconfig http://pastebin.ca/869267
[01:12] <druke> what is the plugin to make compiz layer the windows on cube rotate
[01:12] <Creationist> soldats: Neither was his attack on my chosen nickname when I requested support.
[01:12] <tarvid> Joelito, take at look at SVGs some offspring are offering some hope
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> druke: Ask in #Compiz and let us know... sounds like fun
[01:12] <power788> How can I change the font color of the Ubuntu Gnome Menu? (Applications, Places, System)
[01:12] <grekkos> Can anyone help me? My grub is taking a very long time to load (a lot longer than usual) and the operating systems on the machine won't start either I get a blinking cursor for a while and then eventually my monitor shuts off
[01:12] <Perdente> tarvid, from what I remember too, my eth0 used to be my wireless as odd as that is
[01:12] <grekkos> druke: it's called rotate cube
[01:12] <druke> ah sure thing Jack_Sparrow
[01:13] <Joelito> tarvid, ok :)
[01:13] <soldats> Creationist, true. i agree. but keep the support chan to support :P, i personally appreciate your opinion
[01:13] <ion> my sandisk sansa mp3 player disconnects my wifi when I plug it in
[01:13] <druke> grekkos, is it "raise on rotate" ? because that doesn't seem to do anything
[01:13] <grekkos> no?
[01:14] <grekkos> druke: there's an option called "Rotate Cube" in the CompizConig manager
[01:14] <ardchoille> I installed ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu (switching totally to know here) and I didn't have window borders. I did System > Appearance > Vis Effects tab and clicked None and got my window border back. Was this the right way to do this?
[01:14] <tarvid> Perdente, you are connected
[01:14] <piranesi> is it normal that with nvidia driver I can only choose between 50 and 54 hz refresh rates?
[01:14] <raj_> help .... i cant see nothing on my screen after installing the 96xx geoforce driver is there anyone that can help me? all i see is lines on the screen
[01:14] <druke> grekkos, yes its enabled, I can rotate my cube fine its, the windows jsut don't layer, they are flat on the cube
[01:14] <Creationist> When trying to play a DVD, I keep getting errors saying "Could not read NAV packet."  What do I need to do to REfix this?   This is yet another example of something that worked one day and not the next.... grr.
[01:14] <grekkos> oh
[01:14] <grekkos> druke: you're talking about the option that makes them pop out of the cube?
[01:14] <soldats> ardchoille, most likely yes since each wm handles win bordoers differently
[01:15] <druke> grekkos, yes!
[01:15] <grekkos> druke: I forgot what that's called but the people in the compiz channel will know
[01:15] <druke> grekkos, thanks a ton :D
[01:15] <kronos> alguien sabe de un canal en español?
[01:15] <Perdente> tarvid, the linksys one is, but when I take it out, gnome gets rid of my wireless option
[01:15] <grekkos> druke: try #compiz-fusion
[01:15] <joeamined> hi
[01:15] <eugman> When I turn on my server, I can login but the login prompt isn't there at first. The bootup list just sits there mocking me.
[01:15] <grekkos> !spn
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <grekkos> bleh
[01:15] <joeamined> i'm having a small problem
[01:15] <raj_> help .... i cant see nothing on my screen after installing the 96xx geoforce driver is there anyone that can help me? all i see is lines on the screen
[01:15] <juso> Is samba or nfs secure enough to have open to the internet nowadays?
[01:16] <agentmarmite> im having a gigantic problem.
[01:16] <agentmarmite> it's monolithic
[01:16] <soldats> !ask | joeamined
[01:16] <ubotu> joeamined: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:16] <agentmarmite> gargantuan
[01:16] <kronos> como puedo instala compiz-fusion en ubunto 7.10?
[01:16] <ardchoille> soldats: ok, that seemed to replace compiz with metacity, which works for me :)
[01:16] <tarvid> Perdente, even so the error rate is high, this is not going to be easy to fix, the linksys card should be fairly inexpensive
[01:16] <grekkos> what's the name of the spanish ubuntu channel? kronos wants to know
[01:16] <th0r> !es
[01:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:16] <soldats> cool :P
[01:17] <grekkos> oh that makes much more sense ;)
[01:17] <kronos> gracias
[01:17] <grekkos> de nada ;)
[01:17] <Perdente> tarvid, the error rate is high?
[01:18] <grekkos> can anyone tell me why my grub takes a really long time to load? It seriously took my computer about 5 minutes to load grub and then another 5-10 to begin loading the kernel
[01:18] <tarvid> Perdente, from the ifconfig etch2 rx errors 207
[01:18] <joeamined> I'm executing a sh file calling java compiler with in its classpath parameters a space (for exple : /home/Chapter 5/). When i launch the command directly from the terminal, it works because i surrounded the string with cotes, but from the shell using EXEC ... it takes the space for the end of the argument
[01:18] <Creationist> When trying to play a DVD, I keep getting errors saying "Could not read NAV packet."  What do I need to do to REfix this?   This is yet another example of something that worked one day and not the next.... grr.
[01:19] <th0r> joeamined place a '\' in front of the space
[01:19] <joeamined> th0r, the problem is that it is a variable
[01:19] <joeamined> i can't hardcode a space
[01:19] <oceanjonesn> I am having trouble keeping my correct DNS names after a re-boot.  How can I manually set my DNS server names and not have my local router step in on boot?
[01:21] <th0r> oceanjonesn place them in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:21] <Perdente> tarvid, well yeah, but that's the linksys usb card that's hooked up to my comp it also has an internally built PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection that worked fine but then stopped working and when I came here last time some op said that it was because of the upgrade and that he had had the same problem but that he had fixed it somehow
[01:22] <Perdente> it=my laptop
[01:22] <soldats> creationsit why did you leave i found a page for you
[01:22] <oceanjonesn> I have using the sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf,  but after reboot the old DNS is back.  I believe DHCP is setting the bad DNS names.
[01:23] <th0r> oceanjonesn I believe you can disable dns update in the same place you mark the card as static or dhcp
[01:23] <raj_> help aNYONE?
[01:23] <tarvid> Perdente, it would be nice if people who fixed problems would leave a message saying how they fixed it. Cleverly worded google search might work. The drupal channels are logged so I can go back and look
[01:23] <raj_> please it is urgent
[01:24] <Cpudan80> Anyone here use ubuntu on an IBM thinkpad (any variety)?
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: All you can do is ask your question and wait for someone to answer
[01:24] <soldats> !ask
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:24] <Cpudan80> I need some help with the sound card ----- I want to tie the volume control to *both* the hardware end of things (up/down buttons on the laptop) and the software volume control
[01:24] <Perdente> tarvid, I could research solutions on google if you think its best, my only fear is I found a bunch of errors from ubuntu 6.* etc and I think this error might be to new to have been recorded yet
[01:25] <tarvid> Perdente, nowis alway a good time to back up
[01:25] <Patrickva> Sup Cpudan80
[01:25] <raj_> i installed 96xx driver on my toshiba m10 laptop and now i cant see anything on my screen ... it sis the correct driver but i cant see anything on my screen .. i tried to change the resolution on my desktop using the termina root > video .. no luck ANY HELP would be appreciated
[01:25] <grekkos> !video
[01:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:25] <Cpudan80> Patrickva: howdy
[01:25] <Patrickva> Howdy, Partner.
[01:25] <tarvid> Then the reticence to reload diminsihes. I always use the aloternate CD
[01:25] <Patrickva> I know you from somewhere, Cpudan80
[01:25] <grekkos> Can anyone tell me why my mplayer no longer plays video
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > raj_:
[01:26] <Patrickva> Das nerd.
[01:26] <tarvid> I've reloaded three times before breakfast
[01:26] <Cpudan80> Patrickva: ##windows maybe -- you're no longer banned there btw
[01:26] <Patrickva> I know.
[01:26] <Patrickva> I'm in there right now.
[01:26] <grekkos> I get a message saying "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your Video card available"
[01:26] <Patrickva> I was being sarcastic by the wai.
[01:26] <grekkos> but it worked a few hours ago
[01:26] <raj_> if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated
[01:26] <Perdente> tarvid, is there a backup function in ubuntu or you mean back my data up because I always have a copy of my stuff on an external, I'm just afraid that I'll reinstall gutsy and then when all the upgrades go through I'm in the same boat
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: Did you get a PM from ubotu about res?
[01:27] <ramza3> how do I set up universe, so I can get lighttpd
[01:27] <oceanjonesn> I am using the network administration tool and I do not see that setting in either the static address or DHCP settings.
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos > ramza3
[01:27] <ubuntuo> hey i got a question: when i type "uptime" in terminal
[01:28] <ubuntuo> it sasy 2 users logged in
[01:28] <tarvid> Perdente, hardy?
[01:28] <ubuntuo> but i am the onlyone logged in
[01:28] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, tell raj about trying startx in terminal as well since some people seem to not install xorg
[01:28] <Reilwin> ubuntuo: not that I'm an expert, but wouldn't that be the superuser?
[01:28] <ubuntuo> im not sure
[01:29] <sn00zer> can somebody please help me with vnc? I have realvnc on my xp box and when i try to connect from my ubuntu box it says x connection broken
[01:29] <ubuntuo> reilwin: when you type "users" what appears?
[01:29] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: How do you want to setup your VNC?
[01:29] <Reilwin> ubuntuo: heh, my username is repeated twice
[01:29] <soldats> ubuntuo, if only one user login in only one user should be logged ine. try "who" in terminal
[01:29] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: there are two ways basically -- 1: Must be logged in to machine to use VNC (much like XP Remote Assistance) -- 2: Totally remote (much like XP remote desktop)
[01:30] <ubuntuo> ok
[01:30] <raj_> JACK_Sparrow: i got it from respo YEs .. but it messed up my system
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart when you get done reconfiguring xorg....
[01:30] <Perdente> tarvid, what's hardy?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know of a web interface to ssh, so I could use it from places that had firewall rules to block it normally?  (ie, something I could run on a web server at home)
[01:30] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: i suppose totally remote
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: WHich repo?
[01:30] <Ademan> where do you install fonts to in your user directory? ~/.fonts ?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> !hardy | Perdente
[01:30] <ubotu> Perdente: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> !fonts | Ademan
[01:30] <ubotu> Ademan: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:30] <ubuntuo> soldats: when i type "who" i get this
[01:31] <ubuntuo> ally   tty7         2008-01-22 06:17 (:0)
[01:31] <ubuntuo> ally   pts/0        2008-01-22 20:28 (:0.0)
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: It's not easy to do.... but.... hang on
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: And did you go through troubleshooting on the page I sent to you via Ubotu
[01:31] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, i'll try the easy way
[01:31] <EtteSB> !paste : ubuntuo
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste : ubuntuo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <iBA86> i have to use the rescue cd to fix the partions, what do i set them to?
[01:31] <EtteSB> !paste
[01:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:31] <soldats> ubuntuo, looks like only one user is loggeg in
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Try this
[01:31] <juso> Whats diff between kubuntu and kubuntu, ubuntu can have kde, no?
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[01:31] <raj_> jack_Sparrow: i got it from synatics the 96xx driver for geoforce .. and it messed up my screen
[01:31] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: then if it doesn't fit my needs, go with the hard way
[01:31] <juso> err ubuntu and kubuntu*
[01:31] <ubuntuo> ic
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Just follow the steps, it works in Gutsy
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> juso: It's just which DE is default.
[01:31] <ubuntuo> soldats: look when i type "uptime"
[01:32] <raj_> jack_sparrow: i tried to change resolution using the terminal ... video > no luck
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: Read the !res link I gave you.
[01:32] <Perdente> tarvid, so reboot and wait for hardy?
[01:32] <ubuntuo>  20:30:17 up 14:13,  2 users,  load average: 0.65, 0.54, 0.47
[01:32] <EtteSB> juso: ubuntu = gnome, kbuntu = kde. altho both can use each others progs via QT
[01:32] <juso> Ahh ok, got it, thanks tonyyarusso
[01:32] <raj_> jack_sparrow ... i type that and restart and get back on here?
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[01:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:32] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I use KDE, is that going to be a problem? kubuntu channel didn't offer any help
[01:33] <EtteSB> im making an alias but it keeps saying unexpected end of file (for .bashrc)
[01:33] <soldats> ubuntuo, your name is logged as tty0 and tty7 as far as i can tell
[01:33] <ubuntuo> yes
[01:33] <ubuntuo> okay
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80: as long as it is not KDE specific we dont cre too  much
[01:33] <Patrickva> My name is dongle.
[01:33] <ubuntuo> just wonder soldats, thanks
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> care
[01:33] <tarvid> Perdente, hardy works, always some risk but you have demonstrated that just running upgrades can be perilous
[01:33] <joe_sae> hey eric
[01:33] <Patrickva> Nice to meet you, Dongle.
[01:33] <joe_sae> hey eric_sae
[01:33] <Harkins> I'm trying to install ssh and openssh-server and get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53102/ -- any idea what's wrong here?
[01:33] <DongleDude> Hai.
[01:33] <Perdente> tarvid, what have I got to lose, thanks for the advice, I'll try it out
[01:33] <Perdente> :)
[01:33] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Shouldn't be -- I'd log into gnome (if you can) so the instructions are verbatim...
[01:34] <joe_sae> eric_sae: dude this ltsp setup rocks
[01:34] <tarvid> I had madwifi problems when I first upgraded to gutsy, then they just disappeared
[01:34] <joe_sae> no disks! and woo hoo on a crappy p3 too!
[01:34] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, thanks
[01:34] <EtteSB> when i start terminal i get "bash: /home/ette/.bashrc: line 76: syntax error: unexpected end of file" i tried making an alias for terminal but it didn't work. anyone know where i caoud get a guide or someone to walk me through how to make one?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> joe_sae: What are the specs of the server?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> joe_sae: Glad you finally got it installed..
[01:35] <Perdente> tarvid, and you always have to push forward so might was well find a way to make it work now than cling on to the old version ^_^
[01:35] <joe_sae> yeah! it turns out it is a athlon x2 with 2gb of mem supporting 15 systems
[01:35] <joe_sae> for now
[01:35] <joe_sae> as a test
[01:35] <joe_sae> :)
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> not bad
[01:36] <tarvid> Perdente, but I think you have a driver problem, the fix is never easy, i fixed one because device recognition was wrong, my current setup has one device id problem and works anyhow and I am loathe to fix it
[01:36] <joe_sae> yeah...and the performance (non PG response) f'ing kicks ass!
[01:36] <raj_> jack_sparrow: It gives me nothing only 3 things listed
[01:36] <joe_sae> the kids at the school are going to be so happy...
[01:36] <raj_> jack_sparrow: and asks me for a passwork
[01:36] <ramza3> why isn't lighttpd part of main ubuntu system
[01:36] <soldats> joe_sae, thats awesome
[01:36] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: The syntax is alias <newName>='<old command set>'
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> ramza3: Uh, because it has no reason to be?
[01:36] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: Example :: alias ..='cd ..'
[01:37] <joe_sae> its basically on edubuntu..and we sort have this double nat setup going on....but it works...and works well.
[01:37] <ramza3> tonnyarusso: well, you might as well get rid of Apache
[01:37] <Perdente> tarvid, yeah, I wish I knew how drivers worked a little better...
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> ramza3: Apache's not default either.
[01:37] <EtteSB> cpudan80: so would "alias wsw='cd /home/scott/Documents/DLs/warsow_0.4_unified | ./warsow.i386" work?
[01:37] <Perdente> tarvid, can you fix a driver from inside of ubuntu or do you have to write code to fix drivers?
[01:37] <ramza3> tonyyarusso, oh, sorry, nothing to see here
[01:37] <tarvid> Perdente, the scope of things I don't know expands much faster than the smaller domain that I do know
[01:38] <venger> anyway to add items to the right click menu (when right clicking on desktop) ?
[01:38] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: You need a closing ' after .i386 - but yeah
[01:38] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 help me after installing windows xp pro i cant boot into Ubuntu anymore is there a way to fix it?
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> !grub | Darkmystere
[01:38] <ubotu> Darkmystere: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:38] <StereoMC> :P
[01:38] <EtteSB> cpudan80: ahh, thats what i missed
[01:38] <Darkmystere> lol >.> I like killed Grub lol
[01:38] <soldats> !dualboot > Darkmystere please refer to this for dual boot instructions
[01:38] <tarvid> Perdente, sometimes you can find a thread - launchpad sometimes works, the madwifi thread was on BSD, search launchpad and see if any bugs have been reported.
[01:38] <Cpudan80> Is that a factoid?
[01:39] <tarvid> If not post one.
[01:39] <Cpudan80> !killedgrub
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killedgrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <Cpudan80> Nope
[01:39] <Darkmystere> soldats: Ive had it dual booted before but i had to reinstall windows because it was virus ridden
[01:39] <EtteSB> cpudan80: thanks :3
[01:39] <StereoMC> so...whassup people ?
[01:39] <soldats> Darkmystere, ahh
[01:39] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: np
[01:39] <Perdente> tarvid, sounds good, thanks for all the advice!  I'm off to get Hardy and then search around the interwebs for info, have fun!
[01:39] <tarvid> Perdente, wish you well
[01:39] <Darkmystere> soldats: Annoying i Know and also i wanted to cut off 10GB off windows partion and i did but got lost in Gparted..
[01:40] <Creed> How do I mount everything in the fstab on-demand rather than on boot? mount -o?
[01:40] <Darkmystere> Dunno how to add to partions
[01:40] <raj_> i installed 96xx driver on my toshiba m10 laptop and now i cant see anything on my screen ... it sis the correct driver but i cant see anything on my screen .. i tried to change the resolution on my desktop using the termina root > video .. no luck ANY HELP would be appreciated
[01:40] <Perdente> thnx
[01:40] <EtteSB> creed: just mount isn't it?
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> Creed: add noauto to the options in fstab
[01:40] <StereoMC> dude... thats boring :P
[01:40] <TJjj> hey i need some kelp with my ssh server. I installed ssh-server and changed my port to something in the 6000's then i opened the port on my router. it still will not let me ssh into it from my other computer
[01:41] <EtteSB> creed "mount -a"
[01:41] <Creed> EtteSB / tonyyarusso I have 4 options, -o -f -u and -a. (its a lab assignment)
[01:41] <agentmarmite> anyone here know about installing Creative XFi drivers?
[01:41] <joe_sae> all right guys brb...a little more ltsping...
[01:41] <Creed> EtteSB, Ah thanks :) Couldnt find it in my book.
[01:41] <EtteSB> creed: mount --help (have a look :3)
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Creed: Uh, check the man and see what sounds most like what your prof is asking for.
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: What happened when you typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[01:42] <TJjj> hey i need some kelp with my ssh server. I installed ssh-server and changed my port to something in the 6000's then i opened the port on my router. it still will not let me ssh into it from my other computer
[01:42] <Creed> EtteSB, lol My virtual install has been *trying* to start for the past hour so I could look it up...Think I'll just boot a livecd and work off that.
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> TJjj: Are you indicating that port in your connection attempt?
[01:42] <EtteSB> creed: ouch :S
[01:42] <andresj> What packages should I install to have the minimum in order to be able to change GTK+/Gnome themes? (I use Kubuntu)
[01:42] <genii> TJjj: You ned to specify the new port from the client also
[01:42] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, that only does a manual reconfigure. tell him to do it with -phigh
[01:42] <TJjj> yes
[01:42] <raj_> jack_sparrow nothing
[01:42] <hahahan> TJjj: areboth machines on the same port?
[01:43] <lynx``> Is there a ubuntu live for ppc?
[01:43] <TJjj> im using putty, and in putty i put in the my IP addrtess and the port im using
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> lynx``: Yes.
[01:43] <zakke> hmm, i installed wine and tested WoW, It's working ok till i'm inlogged, i cant see the ground and myself etc, just some random houses and maybe some player... does somebody know what the problem can be?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> soldats: Feel free to help him.. he obviously didnt read the page for !res...
[01:43] <TJjj> both machines are on the same network
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> lynx``: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.10/release/
[01:44] <lynx``> Does anybody know if it includes airport drivers?
[01:44] <genii> TJjj: On the server are you able to: ssh -p 6000 localhost             ?
[01:44] <Rhyolite> how can I install a package that wants me to insert the DVD if I do not have access to the DVD?  Can I force apt-get to install the package from the repository on the Net?
[01:44] <crwlr> none of these configurations are working for my dual monitors...
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[01:44] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:44] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, yea i know how you feel. happened to me before. i tried but he was only responding to you :D im glad you were helping
[01:45] <Darkmystere> Well brb i think
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> Rhyolite: Remove the disc from your software sources.
[01:45] <TJjj> im sorry this is my second day with linux so i dont really understand what you are asking
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> soldats: When they show no interest in helping themselves, it makes it harder to put out the effort to help them when so many others can use my time
[01:45] <TJjj> i typed that in and it allowed me too i think...
[01:45] <RyanPrior> I need help getting my graphics card to recognize direct rendering. It has done so before, but lately fglrx reports that direct rendering is not available.
[01:46] <TJjj> since im on the same network, do i need to use the network IP address?
[01:46] <genii> TJjj: Wehen you are at the computer which is running the openssh-server. And in Terminal you type in: ssh -p 6000 localhost              does it connect? (6000 will be the port you changed openssh-server to run on there of course)
[01:47] <Darkmystere> brb..
[01:47] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, so true. i totally understand. no worries :) i enjoy seeing your kowledge put to good use
[01:47] <Darkmystere> hopefully
[01:47] <lynx``> Does anybody know if the PPC version of ubuntu live has airport usability
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: What does fglrxinfo  from cli show you
[01:47]  * Nikki85 is away: Gone away for now.
[01:47] <zakke> hmm, i installed wine and tested WoW, It's working ok till i'm inlogged, i cant see the ground and myself etc, just some random houses and maybe some player... does somebody know what the problem can be?
[01:47] <TJjj> since im on the same network, do i need to use the network IP address?
[01:48] <TJjj> it looks like it connects
[01:48] <genii> sigh
[01:48] <k1gwb> I have a guest account on my laptop that is used by about 10 other people, I want it to revert the entire guest home directory to a preconfigured state on or after each login. What's the best way to do that? I know I can make a script that tars the directory and another to untar it but how do I make it run and when is ideal?
[01:48] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53103/
[01:49] <Creed> Whats the command to edit certain users quota?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: Which ATI card is it?
[01:49] <Rhyolite> tonyyarusso: thanks
[01:49] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: ryan@ryan-laptop:~$ lspci | grep Radeon --> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[01:50] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: are you still here?
[01:50] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here familiar with nessus?
[01:50] <genii> TJjj: OK, if it works from the server to ssh into itself locally, then openssh-server indicates it is operating correctly. So check again your port forwarding setup in the router. Also make sure you are not trying to ssh in to an IP address of the machine which has been changed if it uses dhcp.
[01:50] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: yes?
[01:50] <nickrud> RyanPrior:  does   lsmod | grep fgrlx  show it's loaded?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: And you have always used fglrx?
[01:51] <TJjj> thank you, i will try that
[01:51] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I don't think I want to use XDMCP, most tutorials say its insecure and to use ssh
[01:51] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: as far as I know, yes. I have always used whatever the restricted manager provided.
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: What is the exact problem you are having?
[01:51] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here familiar with registering nessus? i used the command in the email and it said path not found
[01:51] <RB2> Is there a reason that items do not show up in Synaptic, but can be retrieved with apt-get?
[01:52] <RyanPrior> nickrud: lsmod doesn't show any lines associated with fglrx
[01:52] <joe__sae> hey...guys i have question about locking down the desktop background from being changed for a user....how do I do that?
[01:52] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I very poor 3D performance and glxinfo reports that direct rendering is not enabled, whereas in the past direct rendering has worked and I've gotten better 3D performance.
[01:52] <nickrud> RyanPrior: try  sudo modprobe fgrlx  , the log out and back in. I've had problems occasionally with the fglrx module not getting loaded.
[01:52] <joe__sae> specifically..I have a user logining in via ltsp..but I want to lock down their ability to change the desktop background.
[01:53] <nickrud> RyanPrior: also, if you did the kernel upgrade recently, you might not have linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) installed
[01:53] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for being helpful, I'll be back if Nickrud's suggestion doesn't work.
[01:53] <bullgard4> RB2: The range of functions of apt-get is larger than that of Synaptic.
[01:53] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I get this error from modprobe: Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <lynx``> Can ubuntu read/write HFS?
[01:53] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: been looking over your notes, they look like they are gonna be the complete bomb
[01:54] <crwlr> does anybody here actually have TwinView setup?  i don't want any wikis, I just want to know if anybody is successful with TwinView
[01:54] <RB2> bullgard4, ok, I was just checking. I assumed if it was in the repo list, that synaptic would see it
[01:54] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: That part is required, get a firewall and lock out hits on the VNC port
[01:54] <nickrud> RyanPrior: then you are using the ati driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , edit it from Driver "ati"  to Driver "fglrx"
[01:54] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: I have my computer only accept hits on port 22
[01:55] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok
[01:55] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I don't see any video driver line at all in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <bullgard4> RB2: Be more specific. What do you mean by 'it'?
[01:55] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone have their Windows based Smartphones syncing with Ubuntu by chance?
[01:55] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I think I need to add a new section. Something must have wiped out my configuration.
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Thanks.. I am trying to pull more of it together and be finished with the Ubuntu-ATI side of things
[01:56] <nickrud> RyanPrior: wow.  Sounds like it.   run sudo-dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ,  accept the defaults for just about everything, and select fglrx for the driver
[01:56] <RB2> bullgard4, I was referring to the packages in the repositories, no specific one.
[01:57] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here familiar with using nessus?
[01:57] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Should I use the kernel framebuffer interface?
[01:57] <kyleBAKED> can someone please help me, I am looking for the package gstreamer0.10-faad. it is not in my repos and i cannot find a download source anywhere else. i know it exists though
[01:57] <nickrud> RyanPrior: whatever the default is
[01:58] <penars> what's a good fast terminal? i'm using the default that came with xubuntu but it's slow
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Would you mind testing this bash script for me...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53104/
[01:58] <AaronMT> Is anyone using Ubuntu on an Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop?
[01:58] <bmk789> is there a good gnome file manager other than nautilus?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> penars, you mean the konsole/xterm/gnome-terminal type terminal?  if thats slow.. well.. You got either a slow system.. or some serious issues going on.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> bmk789,  theres several '2 pane' file managers out.  depends on your needs.
[01:59] <bmk789> Dr_willis: is there a list somewhere?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> penars,  rxvt would probery be the fastest/lightest xterm terminal
[01:59] <Dr_willis> !info gentoo
[01:59] <ubotu> gentoo (source: gentoo): a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (gutsy), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[01:59] <sexymikey> im new to ubuntu and i am havin problems wit my videocard can anyone help me out its really gettin frustrating
[01:59] <luckyone> can anyone help me bridge eth0 to ath0 which is connected to my wifi network
[01:59] <Dr_willis> bmk789,  do a apt-cache serch filemanager   perhaps :)
[01:59] <RyanPrior> nickrud: there was no option to include fglrx during that process, and I got this output after it was done: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration (newline) file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080122195852
[01:59] <bmk789> ok
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: What type of video card
[02:00] <kyleBAKED> !info gstreamer
[02:00] <ubotu> Package gstreamer does not exist in gutsy
[02:00] <Dr_willis> There used to be a 'file managers for X' web siute that had a summary of them all.. but not seen that in ages.
[02:00] <sexymikey> geforce 6600 gt
[02:00] <kyleBAKED> !info gstreamer0.10-faad
[02:00] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-faad does not exist in gutsy
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: I run a 6600, what is the problem
[02:00] <TJjjj> hey. my ssh server still will not work when i try ssh into it from another computer.. the ports are open on my router and the IP address is correct... what else could it be?
[02:00] <Alyxander> guys, I have an evolution question. Is it possible to group by thread also showing my messages to who ever?
[02:01] <Alyxander> kind of like a message board style so i can see the entire conversation
[02:01] <luckyone> Alyxander: View > Group By Thread
[02:01] <zakke> hmm, i installed wine and tested WoW, It's working ok till i'm inlogged, i cant see the ground and myself etc, just some random houses and maybe some player... does somebody know what the problem can be?
[02:01] <nickrud> RyanPrior: ok, that message was just a notice that a backup was being made.  install    linux-image-generic , it should pull in linux-restricted-modules
[02:01] <Alyxander> right I got that far. But it doesnt sho my replies
[02:02] <Alyxander> luckyone:
[02:02] <sexymikey> when i install the nvidia drivers as soon as the login screen comes up after it loads its just black but the vesa drivers and nv drivers work they just look shitty i tried the drivers off of the nvidia site and the glx
[02:02] <nickrud> RyanPrior: also install   xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zakke: You will have better luck asking that in #Winehq
[02:02] <zakke> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: You HAVE been reading my notes...
[02:02] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Both those are already at their latest versions.
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: from our repos or from outside official repos
[02:03] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: it pulls in a lot of stuff, you are right about putting it in one file as much as possible. (and I already knew that stuff, I assumed it was why you wanted me to look ;)
[02:03] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I have main, universe, and multiverse enabled. Plus the winehq repo, but that should have nothing to do with this.
[02:04] <ploom> kudos ubuntu-people!
[02:04] <nickrud> RyanPrior: put your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , along with the output of   dpkg -l '*fglrx*'
[02:04] <sexymikey> Jack_Sparrow do you know that that could be?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: stuff we knew but in one place...  just split for the two card catagories fglrx and aiglx
[02:05] <Cpudan80> So about my Thinkpad with ubuntu --- anyone have a thinkpad running ubuntu?
[02:05] <Cpudan80> I've got a problem with the sound card
[02:05] <chimp> My housemate does cpudan
[02:05] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: no there's a lot of stuff I didn't know in there, I'm still learning from it and checking refs. I'm going to spend some more time on it tonight
[02:05] <grekkos> Cpudan80: me too what's your problem?
[02:05] <kyleBAKED> does anyone know how to get .m4a files to play with rhythmbox?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: If you installed the drivers from our repo and got a black screen, you should have then only needed to reconfigure xserver xorg...  but with everything else you tried.. you may need to start from the basics..
[02:06] <ramza3> how do I add a sudo user.  I want to do it by name, I cant edit the /etc/sudoers file
[02:06] <Cpudan80> grekkos: Well everything works -- but the volume control buttons on the laptop seem to control some other volume from the regular software volume mixer
[02:06] <kyleBAKED> gst-inspect-0.10 | grep faad gives me the following -> faad: AAC audio decoder.
[02:06] <crwlr> kyleBAKED: prolly have to install codecs for it from the add/remove > sound
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Run that script, I think you will see where I am going with it.
[02:06] <nickrud> Cpudan80: for the thinkpads http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki is the bomb
[02:06] <poli> I have a gutsy box inside a VMWare. All was fine when I just installed it and before the first update. After the update, everytime I try to access a DVD VMWare tells me "Your virtual machine has sent an ATAPI (CD-ROM) command that is supported only when programming the drive via DMA. You will need to confogire your guest operating system to use DMA" and I am unable to play a DVD. I tried hdparm but not good. Any ideas?
[02:06] <RyanPrior> nickrud: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53107/ and http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53106/
[02:06] <Flannel> ramza3: you want to do it on the command line?
[02:06] <Alyxander> anyone have any ideas as to how to view bot sent and received messages in evolution in the same window. Like in a thread that has both parts of the conversation?
[02:06] <ramza3> Flannel, yea, no xwindows
[02:06] <Cpudan80> grekkos: Basically, I am looking for a way to mute/unmute the internal speakers via some command
[02:06] <Flannel> ramza3: sudo usermod -G admin -a username
[02:06] <grekkos> Cpudan80: oh I'm not sure about that... my sound problem is a bit different
[02:07] <ploom> ramza3, go for manual page of sudoers
[02:07] <RyanPrior> !m4a | kyleBAKED
[02:07] <ubotu> kyleBAKED: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <Flannel> ramza3: all you have to do is add them to the admin group, no mucking around in sudoers
[02:07] <nickrud> RyanPrior: there's something seriously wrong with that, you should have some wacom stuff there at the least.  run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , and pastebin that
[02:07] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: I have, I got a _lot_ of files in that dir
[02:08] <Eyemean> hi i was thinking of getting 4 gig ram installed, wil gutsy recognise the full 4 gig?
[02:08] <grekkos> Cpudan80: you can try what I'm doing though, I'm buildin the latest kernel from source, but I'm not even sure if that will help me
[02:08] <ploom> Eyemean, why dont you just try it yourself?
[02:08] <sexymikey> Jack_Sparrow ok so if i get the glx from the repo and then what do i have to reconfigure in the xorg cause i tryin reconfigurein as well several times unless im missing something
[02:09] <Eyemean> ploom, i said i was thinking of getting, i havent purchased it yet
[02:09] <Darkmystere> Can Some 1 help me I got lost in GParted idk how to Extend a Ubuntu partion ive gotten 10GB off my windows partion but dont know how to add it to Ubuntu
[02:09] <Cpudan80> grekkos: lol that sounds like a bit of overkill
[02:09] <|chiz|_> I'm having trouble getting suspend to work in Gutsy, I think it has something to do with fglrx but I can't seem to figure it out.  Anyone farmilliar with this one?
[02:09] <RyanPrior> nickrud: when I run that command, all that happens is: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuratio file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080122200852
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: Pastebin your xorg for me please
[02:09] <nickrud> RyanPrior: yes, it creates an xorg.conf without asking questions
[02:10] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Ah. So, you want the new xorg.conf?
[02:10] <crwlr> eyemean: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-471721.html
[02:10] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: you have some duplicate info there, the lspci covers the stuff in the nvidia and ati files, for example
[02:11] <nickrud> RyanPrior: yes
[02:11] <Darkmystere> nickrud:Err Is there a guide to extending a Ubuntu partion with GParted?
[02:11] <RyanPrior> nickrud: latest xorg.conf at http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53108/
[02:11] <Darkmystere> I have a 10GB partion lying around that i want to add to Ubuntu But the wording of gparted is confusing >.>
[02:11] <ploom> Eyemean, I would be interested if someone donates some ram. Any time.
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: agreed...  I kept adding everying I could find.. add anything you can think of as well.
[02:11] <nickrud> Darkmystere: not that I know of. I haven't needed to find one. But the general rule is you can move the end of an ext3 partition, not the end the last time I checked
[02:11] <sexymikey> Jack Sparrow: paste the whole thing into here?
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[02:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <ploom> Eyemean, there are so many different producers of ram that by me - in case ubuntu cant use it, its not ubuntu's fault, but an hardware issue
[02:12] <Darkmystere> nickrud: Huh not the end the?
[02:12] <hjhfi__> yo do you take shower/shave at night or morning?
[02:12] <Eyemean> ploom, ram is kinda cheap these ddays
[02:12] <RyanPrior> !ot | hjhfi__
[02:12] <ubotu> hjhfi__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:12] <ploom> Eyemean, and you can detect any ram errors with MemTest
[02:12] <Darkmystere> Well is there a way to make my Ubuntu partion Bigger will lvpm Work?
[02:13] <Flannel> !afk > ajmorris|AFK
[02:13] <Darkmystere> i thought it was just for Wubi but could it work with a Dedicated partion?
[02:13] <nickrud> Darkmystere: heh. not the beginning :)
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ploom: I did cartwheels the day ram fell below $100 a meg...
[02:13] <Griz|Chembook>
[02:13] <hjhfi__> petition to ban RyanPrior
[02:13] <ploom> dear Eyemean - good ram is not cheap at all - good old edoram days are over pretty much forever
[02:13] <Eyemean> ploom, i've been looking to build a pc for first time, so wanted to know wat maximum ram ubuntu and windows would see, that why i asked
[02:14] <sexymikey> Jack Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53109/
[02:14] <Darkmystere> nickrud: oh ok i was like  hmm you can add to the end but not to the..
[02:14] <ramza3> I reinstalled my os, I need to ssh into it, is there a way to refresh the .ssh/known_hosts file
[02:14] <Darkmystere> lol
[02:14] <passbe> how do i create a .log file under /var/log/ that procmail / fetchmail can access ?
[02:14] <Griz|Chembook> Hey Channel. Just built ubuntu server and i'm NOT finding webmin in the available packages. Is this a known issue??
[02:14] <iBA86> my install failed, and it went back to windows. is the system rescue cd the only way around it?
[02:14] <grekkos> Cpudan80: hey what do you know i fixed the problem the plug was hanging half-out ^^;
[02:14] <ploom> Eyemean, I cant remember, for 64 bit machines - the max amount - its enough
[02:14] <crwlr> hjhfi__: I think you need to rethink why you are asking those questions in a support room.
[02:14] <Cpudan80> grekkos: ha
[02:14] <grekkos> Cpudan80: what was your problem again?
[02:14] <ploom> and even for 32 bit ones - its just max per process to address
[02:15] <prometoys> hi, gutsy didnt boot from my raid1 with crypt and luks and a lvm . is it possible to do a setup like this??
[02:15] <Flannel> Griz|Chembook: webmin hasn't been in Ubuntu in... a long time
[02:15] <ploom> Eyemean, IMHO its the motherboard (mem chipset on it) that sets the limit
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[02:15] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[02:15] <prometoys> my raid1 is with mdadm and a software-raid
[02:15] <hjhfi__> petition to ban <crwlr>
[02:15] <joni> !ebox
[02:15] <grekkos> no we do this
[02:15] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[02:15] <grekkos> !ebox
[02:15] <Eyemean> ploom, someone tole me 32bit windowns, max u see is just over 3 gig, OCZ 4GB Kit (2xGB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory is £70
[02:15] <grekkos> lol
[02:16] <Eyemean> but im not sure if thats wat u would call good ram though ploom
[02:16] <crwlr> hjhfi__: not even gonna fight it with you.  if i were op, u'd be out the door.
[02:16] <Darkmystere> Will Lvpm Work?
[02:16] <Griz|Chembook> Flannel, is there another package replacing it?
[02:16] <nickrud> RyanPrior: that is very odd, it not creating the default xorg.conf.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53110/  is mine, for a express 200. You can't use this one directly, because it has some custom stuff for the latest ati, but I'm wondering why you don't have the wacom stuff
[02:16] <ploom> Eyemean, edoram needs no constant refreshing in order to keep things remembered
[02:16] <Flannel> Griz|Chembook: believe the factoid said ebox, see !ebox
[02:17] <zenwhen> !help
[02:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:17] <ploom> Eyemean, and your right - depends on POV
[02:17] <hjhfi__> stop bannin gme
[02:17] <RyanPrior> nickrud: It's definitely weird. Something must have changed to screw things up on a pretty fundamental level, hey?
[02:17] <zenwhen> !op
[02:17] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[02:17] <AaronMT> !ubotu inspiron
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inspiron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <hjhfi__> NO
[02:17] <nickrud> RyanPrior: it's hard to believe that the configurator has changed that much
[02:18] <hjhfi__> ey
[02:18] <hjhfi__> why?
[02:18] <Griz|Chembook> Flannel, cp the ebox. installing it now to check it and THANK YOU!
[02:18] <passbe> can anyone help me setup 2 log files please ?
[02:18] <Eyemean> ploom, pov? sorry my knowledge is kind alimited, lol
[02:18] <hjhfi__> ...
[02:18] <ploom> Eyemean, Point of view
[02:18] <Flannel> hjhfi__: You're welcome to talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, but please keep #ubuntu to support only.  Thanks
[02:19] <sexymikey> Jack Sparrow: Any Ideas?
[02:19] <ploom> Eyemean, I googled out also http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.development.system/2004-08/0040.html
[02:19] <Eyemean> ploom, LOL
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: Hold for a sec...
[02:19] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Should I file a bug, or try reinstalling some packages, or waht? Any suggestion as to where to go from here would be welcome.
[02:19] <thedjatclubrock> Can someone help me, I am at the language selection screen of the install app, I picked english and now???
[02:20] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: It should continue on with the installation. If you're on an old machine, it may take awhile for the next screen to come up.
[02:20] <nickrud> RyanPrior: I'm wondering why you don't even get a serverlayout ....  Are you running hardy? or have any hardy sources?
[02:20] <thedjatclubrock> RyanPrior: How long?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: Did you post your xorg for me?
[02:20] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: Completely depends on the hardware. A friend and I tried installing xubuntu graphically on an old laptop with 64mb of RAM and each screen was taking an hour and a half to load, so we used the text-mode installer instead.
[02:21] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: I'm assuming you tried to click next a few times
[02:21] <Eyemean> ploom, oh well so its just about 3 gig then, thats cool for now
[02:21] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I did. The latest xorg is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53108/
[02:21] <thedjatclubrock> |chiz|_: :P No, I don't see next.
[02:21] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I am running the Hardy kernel and some supporting packages.
[02:21] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: what is your resolution?
[02:22] <nickrud> RyanPrior: ok, you best be asking this on #ubuntu+1 . I have a feeling that is your issue
[02:22] <thedjatclubrock> |chiz|_: IDK, I am new to Linux, How can I find out?
[02:22] <crwlr> !twinview
[02:22] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:22] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Just upgrading to those packages didn't break the 3D support immediately, though. It happened awhile afterwards.
[02:22] <crwlr> !dualhead
[02:22] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:22] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I will ask in #ubuntu+1 and see if they have some Hardy-specific advice though.
[02:22] <nickrud> RyanPrior: did you pin, or do some other thing that would ensure you don't get anything else from hardy?
[02:22] <ploom> Eyemean, you could enter "Memory management in Linux" into google and read about it
[02:23] <Darkmystere> Does anyone know if LVPM Will work to Resize my Ubuntu partion?
[02:23] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: I'm not even too sure on the one, if you hit crtl+n that might get you to the next screen
[02:23] <Eyemean> cool will do ploom, cheers
[02:23] <crwlr> this is a nasty tater...dual lcds...anybody running twinview, dualhead or xinerama?
[02:23] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: assuming that your resolution is just too small to see that part of the screen
[02:23] <Dr_willis> If using twinview. you dont want to enable xinerama
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: It should look more like mine..   http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53112/
[02:23] <thedjatclubrock> |chiz|_: It is working, I can hear it
[02:23] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: he has some packages from hardy ...
[02:23] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: good stuff
[02:23] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I know, but it's way more minimal than that.
[02:23] <thedjatclubrock> RyanPrior: Is the text-based on the normal CD
[02:24] <crwlr> dr_willis: i realize this, but i have tried them all with a fresh install each time and nothing has worked.
[02:24] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: As far as I know, you need the Alternate Install CD to use the text-mode installer.
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: Stuck going into +1..
[02:24] <nickrud> RyanPrior: that xorg.conf would make sense with a later version of xorg, it's supposed to autoconfigure a lot more
[02:24]  * thedjatclubrock says Oh noes
[02:24] <Dr_willis> crwlr,  No idea what you are tring to do exactly. On my dual moniotopr system with a nvidia 8800 card. I enable the nvidia drivers. then run the nvidia config tool to enable the 2 displays
[02:24] <ploom> Eyemean, and remember that mail archive is since year 2004 - nowadays modern computers are 64bit
[02:25] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Perhaps that's what I've got, then.
[02:25]  * nickrud envies Dr_willis
[02:25] <steveny> Hi:) does someone have a spare minute to look at my USB problem...the ports aren't working....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53111/
[02:25] <crwlr> dr_willis: i have an nvidia 6600 trying to do the same thing.  where's you get the nvidia config tool?
[02:25] <crwlr> where'd*
[02:25] <Dr_willis> crwlr,  type nvid<tab> :)
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !find nvidia-settings
[02:25] <RyanPrior> nickrud: What do I do if the newer xorg were configuring it wrong?
[02:25] <ubotu> Found: nvidia-settings
[02:25] <Eyemean> ploom, yeah im looking to get e2140 but wasnt sure about get 64 bit operating system or sticking to 32bit
[02:25] <Dr_willis> nvidia-settings  and nvidia-xconfig
[02:26] <InGunsWeTrust> does anybody know of a good tutorial for installing dotproject on ubuntu gutsy
[02:26] <thedjatclubrock> RyanPrior: How do I know if it is working, and not frozen
[02:26] <nickrud> RyanPrior: talk to the dudes on #ubuntu+1. If you added those repos, you're at +1 or at least a bastardized mix
[02:26] <crwlr> thx, dr_willis.  i am doing a fresh install now, so i will give that a shot.  maybe you solved my problem.  if you did, then ur a god in my book
[02:26] <|chiz|_> does anyone know what command gutsy uses to suspend to ram?
[02:27] <Caplain> does the ubuntu livecd have sambafs?
[02:27] <ploom> Eyemean, why not AMD?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> crwlr,  fresh install? why do you need to do that.
[02:27] <prometoys> can somebody help me with raid+crypted lvm?
[02:27] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: That can be hard to tell.
[02:27] <unop> Caplain, yes
[02:27] <Caplain> thanks
[02:27] <sexymikey> i need help with a video card problem anyone got a sec???
[02:28] <Eyemean> ploom, for one thing this e2140 can be easily overclocked to 3GHz
[02:28] <crwlr> dr_willis: because i change stuff and just feel like a clean install would do fine.  only takes me 10 mins
[02:28] <poli> prometoys: I can try. Tell me what's your problem.
[02:28] <prometoys> ..thanks poli
[02:28] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: what is your problem?
[02:28] <prometoys> i installed gutsy
[02:28] <Eyemean> ploom, i've got amd now so now that im upgrading i wanted to try intel
[02:28] <InGunsWeTrust> does anybody know of a good tutorial for installing dotproject on ubuntu gutsy
[02:28] <prometoys> its a software raid managed by mdadm. in the raid1 is crypted partition with lvm
[02:28] <ploom> Eyemean, ok, all the best
[02:29] <Eyemean> cheers ploom
[02:29] <ploom> Eyemean, one last link: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html
[02:29] <prometoys> poli: installation was no problem, but during boot the raid partition isnt decrypted
[02:29] <sexymikey> chiz: i am running a geforce 6600 gt in fiesty and when i try to install the nvidia drivers and i resart after it loads it just goes black at the login screen
[02:30] <prometoys> poli: i can decrypt it manually from busybox, but how it ask me automatically to decrypt the partition?
[02:30] <BananaMon> Hi guys
[02:30] <poli> prometoys: busybox? are you running that from the liveCD or something?
[02:30] <craigbass1976>  sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/SharedDocs /mnt  Can anyone see an error in this command?
[02:30] <Caplain> sexymikey: ...someone with that nick? sure
[02:30] <BananaMon> I needed some help with ubuntu, I had heard this is the right place....
[02:30] <prometoys> no, because during boot it couldn find / (its inside the crypted lvm) it jumps to busybox
[02:31] <craigbass1976> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock....
[02:31] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: sorry dude, I thought that you were going to ask about the fglrx driver.  You could try a new xorg.conf by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <BananaMon> I guess I'll go after thye current issue is resolved
[02:31] <prometoys> poli: i am not a irc pro.. did you see my answer?
[02:31] <Darkmystere> What program can i use Besides GParted To Entend my Ubuntu install?
[02:31] <poli> prometoys: hm that's a problem. You need initrd to do the encrypted mount for you
[02:31] <robdig> BananaMon: go ahead and ask your question...if someone knows they'll probablby answer
[02:31] <prometoys> poli: great, but how :D
[02:31] <craigbass1976> I have the newest version of smbclient installed.  I know fedora now uses cifs, but I though debian/Ubuntu still used smbfs to mount up windows shares
[02:32] <golem_> let's discuss heath ledger's untimely passing
[02:32] <poli> prometoys: yes I did. just put my nick in front of your reply and it gets pretty yellow when you talk to me
[02:32] <BananaMon> lol....I was just discussing that with a friend....anyway...
[02:32] <sexymikey> chiz i tryed reconfiguring but the only way it will work is with the vesa or nv driver not the nvidia
[02:32] <prometoys> poli: i try to remember this, its really fast here :D
[02:32] <nemilar> I just woke up from a nap, and I swear I was coding python in my sleep.
[02:32] <golem_> sleeping pills? pls.
[02:32] <thedjatclubrock> From #freenode --> <hjhfi__> unfar ban in all of Ubuntu channels requesting a sue. Ubuntu sucks
[02:33] <poli> prometoys: when you install Ubuntu from the alternate CD (I suppose from the server CD also) it will give you the option to get a full disk encrypted LVM, if you chose that option, the installer will do all the necessary steps for you
[02:33] <hever_> Where can I read what PC configuration I need to run ubuntu ?
[02:33] <BananaMon> my ubuntu is stuck in a weird mode....everytime I try to log in, all I see is a black screen, but with my pidgin window and cursor intact
[02:33] <hever_> How muc RAM do I need ?
[02:33] <BananaMon> I can use the pidgin and cursor fine, but nothing else
[02:34] <ThreeFingerPete> hello. how do I correct my tty1 keyboard settings? i have my WM settings correct, but tty1 isnt.. i have no / key!
[02:34] <golem_> pubuntu?
[02:34] <prometoys> poli: i didnt use this option, because i want also a software raid and some space for.. you know win...
[02:34] <poli> BananaMon: in the upper left part of the screen?
[02:34] <BananaMon> I can't log into the failsafe gnome....same thing occurs there but with the human theme instead.....
[02:34] <BananaMon> poli: It just shows up regularly....it's a regular window
[02:34] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: did you install a new kernel since installing the nvidia driver (doesn't explain why nv doesn't work but...)
[02:34] <craigbass1976> Duh... must install smbfs first...
[02:34] <craigbass1976> Someone slap me
[02:35] <poli> prometoys: did you try this option? I imagine it will give you the option to configure the parameters yourself.
[02:35] <poli> prometoys: It is, in my opinion, the easiest way of getting what you want working fine.
[02:35] <sexymikey> chiz no its a fresh install ive tryed 2 fresh installs already ive been workin on this since 9 this morning lol
[02:35] <prometoys> poli: i have a debian etch server with crypted lvm, but couldnt find something useful, expect /etc/crypttab
[02:36] <htns> What's a good newsreader for ubuntu?
[02:36] <poli> prometoys: if you have your root (/) file system encrypted, you will need something "special" in your initrd file to be able to mount it as root.
[02:36] <prometoys> poli: no, i didnt try it. i have a complete installed ubuntu, so i would prefer to fix it
[02:36] <ploom> ThreeFingerPete, I would be interested in the solution too once you find it. The best I can google is http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/keymap.html
[02:36] <poli> htns: rss? thunderbird.
[02:36] <ploom> ThreeFingerPete, but there has to be some nice "debian" or "ubuntu" way
[02:36] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: hmmmm.....
[02:36] <htns> poli: not rss, like usenet.
[02:37] <Eyemean> ploo its suggested to just tick with 3gig for now
[02:37] <htns> I need to connect to a newsgroup server
[02:37] <Eyemean> ploom
[02:37] <htns> Like outlook express does
[02:37] <ploom> Eyemean, yes?
[02:37] <BananaMon> any ideas? I can't access/use anything there...I have had to revert Vista, which totally sucks
[02:37] <Eyemean> ploom, thats a very intresting read still reading though
[02:37] <prometoys> poli: right.. so my initrd-image is messed up.. mhh another question: how can i activate the lvm, after i decrypted it manually?
[02:37] <poli> prometoys: you will have to generate a new initrd with support for what you want.
[02:37] <ploom> Eyemean, was for mee to - nice to remember things
[02:38] <poli> prometoys: that should also be done in the initrd, considering your root partition is there.
[02:38] <Eyemean> ploom,, only problem is 64bit drivers arent really out there, hahah
[02:38] <sexymikey> Chiz: i tryed the glx drivers i tryed the ones off of nvidias site and i tryed a scripy called envy and all of themdo the same thing no problems installin its only after i restart
[02:38] <poli> prometoys: I have only the slightest idea of how do to that, but initrd used to be VERY DAMN HARD to do last time I did it.
[02:39] <ploom> Eyemean, thats Vistas problem more - I have one 64 bit linux machine up and running with no driver problems any more
[02:39] <prometoys> poli: thank you for your help. i will try to find out, how to solve this... now i have a direction
[02:39] <Darkmystere> is there a guide to Using Gparted to Add room to a Ubuntu dedicated partion
[02:39] <poli> prometoys: debian/ubuntu way may have made that somewhat easier these days, I can't tell.
[02:39] <prometoys> poli: good night/day/morning :D
[02:39] <poli> prometoys: good luck
[02:39] <Eyemean> oh well life is life, i would only be saying about £25 ploom, so i might aswell get 4gig, and once 64bit drivers really kick off then i'll be ready
[02:39] <prometoys> poli: thanks...
[02:40] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: really strange, I have the same card in my desktop and I didn't have any trouble installing gutsy
[02:40] <BananaMon> lol, good to see someone's problem was solved....any leads here poli?
[02:40] <Eyemean> nice one ploom, yeah cause im looking to stay with win xp for gaming and stuff and ubuntu of course
[02:40] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:40] <prometoys> poli: if i figure it out, maybe it takes longer, but later i hope to have more knowledge about lvm and crypt/luks
[02:40] <mattholimeau> is there any way to harden the current boot status?
[02:40] <prometoys> poli: thanks again and bye, i am offline now...
[02:40] <mattholimeau> i.e. - it seems like every time i boot this thing, i get different results. i just rebooted and my sound finally came back on...
[02:40] <ploom> Eyemean, speaking of linux drivers - just try ubuntu live cd first - and I bet you will be amazed
[02:40] <mattholimeau> i want to make sure it will the next time i reboot it
[02:41] <sexymikey> chiz: im running 64bit feisty everything else works great its just that
[02:41] <sexymikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53109/
[02:41] <iBA86> should i partion the entire disk or just the free space?
[02:42] <poli> BananaMon: you might have screwed up your window manager's configuration. Try selecting something else in "Options" at the login screen, and, as a last resource, probably deleting the preferences dirs in your home dir will solve it. (actually rename it something else and get a fresh from skell)
[02:42] <Eyemean> im using gutsy now ploom, or do u mean once i upgrade?
[02:42] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: there is the difference, and someone scoffed at me for running the 32bit version today
[02:43] <noonan> hi, I followed this tutorial but had to reboot right before the last step - "depmod -ae" - can anyone tell me if I should just enter that command or if I'm borked? http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing
[02:43] <sexymikey> chiz do you think running the 32 bit might fix it?
[02:43] <BananaMon> poli: that sounds good, but I've tried everything else from my options menu....I guess I'll go and rename the prefs thing from the terminal, so it is /home/myname/Prefrences?
[02:43] <craigbass1976> exit
[02:44] <craigbass1976> oops.
[02:44] <craigbass1976> Not a terminal
[02:44] <craigbass1976> :)
[02:44] <BananaMon> lol yeah
[02:44] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: maybe, I just know that my experiences with 64bit linux has all been bad
[02:44] <hever_> Where can I read what PC configuration I need to run ubuntu ?
[02:44] <hever_> How muc RAM do I need ?
[02:45] <Scunizi_> hever_: ubuntu 256meg min.  xubuntu much less
[02:45] <KNYlaptop> hever_, how much do you ahve?
[02:45] <KNYlaptop> have*
[02:45] <poli> BananaMon: I am a complete n00b in graphical mode, I usually only care about server stuff. I suppose you might want to try to rename the .gnome2 directory.
[02:45] <sexymikey> chiz haha well considering ive been tryin to get this to work since 9 this morning mine has too
[02:45] <noonan> hever_, try http://ubuntu.com
[02:45] <sexymikey> Chiz i guess ill just give that a try then thanks
[02:45] <ploom> Eyemean, I just told you in case there are any doubts in whether ubntu (or linux) will have drivers - just ask for an hour from a friend with some nice 64bit machine to boot up livecd and try it all out (without any installings and formattings) first
[02:45] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: good luck
[02:46] <BananaMon> poli: k, thanks poli...I'll try that out, if not, I'll research about the windows manager thing
[02:46] <hever_> noonan: I found there no infos.
[02:46] <Darkmystere> LjL: What program can i use to move a 10GB Partion to the Dedicated Ubuntu Partion Im lost with Gparted..
[02:46] <noonan> anyone know how to undo an attempted wireless driver install?
[02:46] <Eyemean> oh right i get u, cheers ploom
[02:46] <BananaMon> poli: thanks again, tc guys, keep up the good work
[02:46] <poli> BananaMon: or .gconf sorry, I have little clue about it
[02:46] <LjL> Darkmystere: didn't udnerstand the question
[02:46] <weiner1> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[02:46] <hever_> KNYlaptop: I'm going to buy a new old laptop for my girlfirend ;)
[02:46] <|chiz|_> So it seems Gutsy+Fglrx=No Suspend To Ram :(
[02:46] <poli> BananaMon: of the hidden dirs in your home :)
[02:46] <Darkmystere> LjL: How can i add more space to my Ubuntu partion?
[02:46] <noonan> hever_, click on documentation, then "new to Ubuntu?"
[02:47] <hever_> What about Ubuntu on a iBook ???
[02:47] <BananaMon> lol k, I'll look that up...thanks again, bye
[02:47] <noonan> hever_ I know it can be done
[02:47] <LjL> Darkmystere, should be a matter of dragging the slider for that partition in gparted... of course, you can't run it from your live system. you need a live cd.
[02:47] <Darkmystere> Im trying Gparted But i dont really know how to work it..
[02:47] <Darkmystere> LjL: Err theres no space left really on this partion
[02:48] <hever_> noonan: so there are no problems with PPC?  But I think 64MB are tooooooo less
[02:49] <hever_> noonan: there are no informations about requirements
[02:49] <Darkmystere> Omg no 1 can help me i dun want to reinstall i just got Everything fixed..
[02:50] <noonan> hever_, i never said no problems .. buut
[02:51] <Flannel> hever_: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition  at the very bottom
[02:52] <Breebo> Question about aterm: I have tried to use transparency by running aterm with the +tr and +trsb options, but there is still no transparency. Any ideas?
[02:52] <LjL> !away > SuPeRhOmEm[off]    (SuPeRhOmEm[off], see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:52] <CrazyWulf> Anyone know what would cause Frostwire not to start up at all?    I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a laptop to run Ubuntu 7.10.  The things i'm looking for are: Core 2 Duo CPU, 4 GB RAM, ATI discreet graphics, DVD burner, and screen at least 1000 pixels high (don't really care if it's widescreen or not).  Any suggestions?
[02:54] <un0p> Breebo, i don't think you read the manpage right (always do that) -- aterm -tr -trsb -sh 60
[02:54] <nickrud> CrazyWulf: you have java installed?
[02:54] <jason__> I've known ATI to have problems with ubuntu
[02:54] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: don't get ati graphics
[02:54] <nickrud> CrazyWulf: sun java , that is
[02:54] <jason__> yeah
[02:55] <jason__> especialy if you want a 3d desktop
[02:55] <blahdeblah2> jason__, |chiz|_: OK, let's say without the ATI graphics.  I care almost zero about 3D.
[02:55] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: I've run ubuntu on intel graphics and its great
[02:55] <blahdeblah2> I've had excellent results with my ATI X1300 on Debian etch.
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I have intel, ati and nvidia.. all decent effects..
[02:56] <mzracer360> I flashed the BIOS of my Mirra backup device to get into the CMOS w/o the manufacturers password and enable a cdrom drive.  I am now having trouble installing Ubutnu server.  I get: Loading /install/vmlinuz.........
[02:56] <mzracer360> Loading /install/init.gz............
[02:56] <mzracer360> Ready
[02:56] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: ATI's drivers are just not where they should be
[02:56] <mzracer360> but then it just sits there with a blinking  _ character
[02:56] <jason__> some ATI has no problems.  If it ran there my guess is it will run here.  Ubuntu is a Debian
[02:56] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 please help me i just want to add space to my Ubuntu Partion
[02:57] <blahdeblah2> Anyway, about laptop recommendations... ;-)
[02:57] <un0p> Darkmystere, use a partitioning program from a live CD
[02:57] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: yeah I would recommend intel everything
[02:57] <Meshezabeel> greetings, I am trying to move a selection in GIMP, in the manual it says to hold ALT+SHIFT+Left Mouse, but when I do this, it moves my whole window. Is ubuntu somehow taking control away from GIMP with this shortcut? And if so, how can I disable it so I can use it in GIMP?
[02:57] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: no problems and you'll save money
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: NOt that simple of a request,  Sort of like wanting to just move your house across the street...
[02:57] <jason__> Honestly, I haven't seen a computer that didn't run ubuntu.  Is it compatibility your conserned with.
[02:57] <Darkmystere> un0p: Theres no more space on this partion i want to add another partion at the end
[02:57] <blahdeblah2> |chiz|_: I'm asking for brands and models here, not chipsets.
[02:58] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: i Know but i made 10GB Free and i want to add it to my Ubuntu partion i have around 150mb left..
[02:58] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: don't get a toshiba, I hate this thing I'm typing on
[02:58] <genii> Meshezabeel: I'm pretty sure that is a compiz shortcut
[02:58] <blahdeblah2> jason__: No, just knowing what brands & models are out there that are known to work.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Nvidia 6600 is nice as is my older ati 9200
[02:58] <Dr_willis> Darkmystere,  there are also limits to the # of partitions you can have on a drive. (4 primaries)  or make a extended partition to hold locgicals if you need more.
[02:59] <Ademan> does anyone know if the "xorg-dev" package is xlib?
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: Start by posting your fstab -l
[02:59] <Dr_willis> !find xlib
[02:59] <ubotu> Found: libglu1-mesa-dev, libosmesa6-dev, libxcb-xlib0, libxcb-xlib0-dbg, libxcb-xlib0-dev (and 9 others)
[02:59] <jason__> I know HP Emachiene Viao Compaq.  I've run it fine on all of those
[02:59] <un0p> Darkmystere, all you really have to do then is format the free space at the end and move /usr over onto it
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Ademan: dont think so.
[02:59] <Meshezabeel> genii, hmm, how do I disable compiz, I went to system -> Preferences -> Appearance and set the Visual Effects to "NONE". I assumed this disabled compiz, but maybe not.
[03:00] <User2005> anyreason my browser keeps closing early when I'm using my browser ?
[03:00] <Ward1983> any ideas about this?
[03:00] <Ward1983> Checking for zr ... yes (libavcodec (static) is required by zr, sorry)
[03:00] <Darkmystere> un0p: Will it still use the space i have and sec Jack
[03:00] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Command not found
[03:00] <jason__> The only one that has problems is my Emachien.  That is because of ATI
[03:00] <crdlb> Meshezabeel: by default, that should only happen if you don't hold down shift (at least with compiz, perhaps metacity is different)
[03:00] <Meshezabeel> Darkmystere, get GParted on a live CD
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> User2005: Which browser and how did you install flash, java and what plugins are you running
[03:00] <crdlb> Meshezabeel: you can change that key at System > Preferences > Windows though
[03:00] <un0p> Darkmystere,  if you were to move /usr over -- then you will free up space under /  (in the order of atleast 2-3 gigs)
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: Start by posting your sudo fstab -l   last letter is L
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wait.. fdisk -l
[03:01] <un0p> Darkmystere, Jack_Sparrow  -- it's  fdisk -l
[03:01] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: i copy pasted it it says fstab command does not exist..
[03:01] <nickrud> Ademan: xorg-dev will pull in all the X development headers, probably will give you what you're looking for
[03:01] <Darkmystere> lol
[03:01] <Ademan> nickrud: thanks
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: Sorry, trying to eat dinner and type with half a brain working
[03:01] <mzracer360> anyone here installed Ubuntu onto a Mirra backup device?
[03:01] <psyber> hello all
[03:02] <duvnel1> well, I fixed it finally.. after digging around in .so file symbols I discovered that the ati driver had place some .so files  that were being picked up before the .deb's files were.. then I found an uninstall script for the ati driver.  I ran that and then reinstalled all xorg, mesa, and fglrx packages and now it's working again! phew
[03:02] <Darkmystere> It just returns command prompt Jack_Sparrow
[03:02] <osxdude|mac> Restarting colloquy, brb
[03:02] <Meshezabeel> crdlb, okay, thanks, I changed the key to super, strange that option just can't be disabled as ALT+F7 does it anyhow