[00:37] <psykatog> how do I check to see if Kubuntu is recognizing an external cd drive?
[00:37] <psykatog> lsusb & lspci produce the same results whether or not the device is plugged in
[00:40] <iulian_> k3b
[00:45] <iulian_> hmmm that wifi driver dont work with woa2/psk
[00:46] <iulian_> if setup wifi non unsecured np but when setup apssword grrrrr
[01:44] <valorie> !dual-boot
[01:46] <chtipowa> hi
[01:46] <chtipowa> Someone could help me to activate Vsync on Kubuntu 10.10, with an ATI Radeon 4870 please ? My videos 720p are not smooth...
[01:59] <aditirex> hy
[01:59] <aditirex> how to I make phonon to recognize back an usb audio headset  ?
[02:00] <aditirex> I have a MS lifechat , worked when I plugged it yesterday , but now
[02:00] <aditirex> phonon erase it
[02:00] <aditirex> even alsamixer sees it
[04:01] <c2tarun> I installed kubuntu and ubuntu on separate partitions and one partition is common to both as home, now my boot menu entries are flooded, I want to clean it up but there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst file? Can anyone please tell me where is menu.lst file?
[04:05] <creich> which version?
[04:05] <creich> c2tarun: ^
[04:05] <c2tarun> creich: how to check that?
[04:05] <c2tarun> creich: i mean u asking about grub or kubuntu?
[04:05] <creich> kubuntu?
[04:05] <c2tarun> creich: maverick
[04:08] <creich> what is in /etc/grub.d/?
[04:08] <creich> $ ls /etc/grub.d/
[04:09] <creich> that is the new "menu.lst"
[04:10] <c2tarun> creich: http://paste.ubuntu.com/559778/\
[04:10] <c2tarun> creich: http://paste.ubuntu.com/559778/
[04:11] <creich> and you just want to remove unused kernel entries
[04:11] <creich> ?
[04:11] <creich> just making sure I understand
[04:12] <c2tarun> creich: nope I want to use both the of ubuntu and kubuntu, but there are 8 entries in my menu, memtest and all.
[04:12] <c2tarun> creich: i just want to remove those entries, and at some point of time if i need them i can bring them back
[04:12] <creich> the memtest ones?
[04:12] <creich> ok
[04:13] <creich> so then run $ sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+
[04:14] <creich> then $ sudo update-grub
[04:14] <creich> remember that kubuntu and ubuntu  now use grub 2
[04:14] <roccity_> how would I change the passphase on my home folder that is encrypted?
[04:14] <c2tarun> creich:  Ok, thanks :) i have one more problem, when i am trying to update ubuntu i am getting a message that waiting for jockeybinding to end? do this has anything to do with kubuntu?
[04:15] <creich> what are you typing to update
[04:15] <c2tarun> creich: nothing, i was updating by update manager.
[04:16] <c2tarun> creich: my ubuntu and kubuntu share same drive as a home folder
[04:18] <creich> I have to be honest I have no idea
[04:18] <creich> I would try an update from command line
[04:18] <creich> then see what happens
[04:19] <creich> I dont believe it has anything to do with kubuntu
[04:19] <creich> considering they are both on different partitions and package managers dont really touch you /home directories
[04:19] <creich> if you want to try updating on the command line
[04:20] <creich> then going back to package manager it may help
[04:20] <creich> also make you can modify what goes on your bootup menu in GUI as well
[04:21] <creich> go to System > Administration
[04:21] <creich>  and search for whatever you want to remove
[04:21] <c2tarun> creich: i tried to install build-essential from command line but after update only anything from my command line works, dont know why?
[04:22] <creich> what was the command you used?
[04:22] <c2tarun> creich: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:23] <creich> so now nothing on command-line works
[04:23] <creich> errors?
[04:23] <c2tarun> creich: ya some errors like package not found and like that, i don't exactly remember them, I am in kubuntu right now
[04:24] <creich> ok type $ sudo apt-get install build-essential    now
[04:24] <creich> or is it just error in the other ubuntu
[04:24] <c2tarun> creich: in kubuntu?
[04:24] <creich> minus the now^
[04:24] <creich> yea
[04:24] <c2tarun> creich: ok
[04:25] <c2tarun> creich: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:27] <creich> $sudo apt-cache search build-essential
[04:29] <c2tarun> creich: one line definitions of build-essential, devscripts, dh-buildinfo, sbuild
[04:29] <creich> so then its probably already on your system
[04:30] <creich> when you try to install it there is no message explaining that its already on your system
[04:30] <c2tarun> creich: actually i did all these on kubuntu, but problem is with my ubuntu.
[04:30] <creich> oh
[04:30] <creich> hmm
[04:31] <creich> I dont know honestly
[04:31] <c2tarun> creich: :| that's why i asked to do these in ubuntu or kubuntu :(
[04:32] <c2tarun> creich: :| that's why i asked to do these in ubuntu or kubuntu :(
[04:32] <creich> well this is #kubuntu
[04:32] <creich> so i think ppl will be mad if we troubleshoot ubuntu ha
[04:33] <c2tarun> creich: very sorry :( actually i use kubuntu only, the problem with jockeybinding and shared home folder, I thought that it might be due to kubuntu :) anyway thanks a lot.
[04:33] <creich> its probably not. np
[04:48] <greenmang0> hello friends...  i am using kde 4.6 on kubuntu 10.10 ... the problem is my desktop is moved on screen ... here are some screen shots      http://imagebin.org/134952  http://imagebin.org/134953
[04:48] <greenmang0> what can be the reason?
[04:48] <greenmang0> i can't use right click in the darkened region
[04:49] <greenmang0> or any mouse event for that matter
[04:49] <greenmang0> if i maximize window.. it fits to the screen properly
[04:50] <greenmang0> but the default location of any window is moved
[04:50] <greenmang0> i don't want to remove ~/.kde/ folder
[04:51] <creich> greenmang0: go to #kde you will be better able to find the help there
[04:52] <greenmang0> creich: doing that :)
[04:54] <jukas> how to configure my hdmi audio driver?
[04:54] <jukas> i can make it work
[04:55] <jukas> i have an gt36m nvidia
[04:59] <WickedNobODy> this looks fun
[05:00] <WickedNobODy> anybody home?
[05:00] <aditirex> what exactly you need to configure ?
[05:21] <Guest13160> hi, which browser is the best for kde?
[05:22] <Guest13160> hi, which browser is the best for kde?
[05:25] <creich> everybody will tell you soemthing different
[05:25] <creich> Guest13160: ^
[06:06] <senorpedro> hi folks
[06:07] <senorpedro> i have a issue with the nvidia driver on 10.10: when i load it and (re)start X, my screen just stays blank. there are absolutely no (EE) lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. how can i fix this?
[06:16] <valorie> !nvidia
[06:17] <valorie> pishtosh
[06:25] <senorpedro> hi
[06:30] <rbetzen> would anyone know why embedded advanced text editor will not actually edit remote files from within konqueror?
[06:32] <rbetzen> this actuall just happened after the 4.6 upgrade.
[08:21] <lalan> hi
[08:25] <sijo> hi
[09:51] <nlsthzn> just installed Kubuntu 10.10 and upgraded to 4.6, so far pretty slick and sexy, some graphical updating issues but all and all very nice :D
[10:05] <geekosopher> nlsthzn: what kind of issues?
[10:06] <Peace-> i have no issue here...
[10:06] <Peace-> but i am on alpha 11.04
[10:08] <nlsthzn> geekosopher: scrolling in FF the page won't update until I scroll up and down a few times... or opening and closing multiple windows some of the interface of the one will linger on the other until I scroll over it... not to major, just annoying
[10:08] <Peace-> nlsthzn: http://blip.tv/file/4697114?filename=Nowardev-Kubuntu1104PreviewWithKde46882.m4v
[10:08] <Peace-> that is kde 4.6 on natty
[10:11] <nlsthzn> Peace-: Looks about the same as mine :-)
[10:19] <Elssha> hi all
[10:20] <Elssha> ummm, how can i be banned from a channel i never tried to go on before? (#ubuntu to be precise)
[10:21] <nlsthzn> Elssha: You must have done something really really bad :p
[10:21] <nlsthzn> Elssha: Not sure though?
[10:21] <Elssha> but this is the first time i tried to get on this server
[10:21] <Elssha> >_>
[10:21] <Elssha> and it just won't let me join it
[10:21] <Elssha> 0_o
[10:21] <nlsthzn> what is the error?
[10:21] <geekosopher> Elssha: wherever you go, your karma follows, even in to your next birth ;)
[10:22] <Elssha> lol
[10:22] <Elssha> i see
[10:22] <Elssha> nls; * Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[10:22] <Elssha> that's what freenode sent back
[10:22] <Elssha> meh
[10:23] <ct529> Elssha: you need to register to access #ubuntu
[10:23] <Elssha> oooooooh
[10:23] <Elssha> i figured that'd be the first place to go
[10:23] <nlsthzn> Elssha: I got on there fine... and I don't know anything about having to register??
[10:23] <Elssha> how do you register
[10:24] <ct529> !regsiter
[10:24] <Elssha> !register Elssha
[10:24] <Elssha> huh
[10:24] <nlsthzn> I don't think it is needed to register (and if it is this is new)
[10:25] <ct529> Elssha: sorry :-D misspelling
[10:25] <ct529> nlsthzn: you needed to register for a very long time on #ubuntu
[10:25] <Elssha> !register
[10:25] <ct529> nlsthzn: or to answer the question of the both
[10:25] <ct529> nlsthzn: of the *bot*
[10:25] <Elssha> well, either way
[10:25] <Elssha> can someone here help me?
[10:25] <Elssha> i *think* what i need to do is simple
[10:26] <ct529> Elssha: fire away
[10:26] <nlsthzn> K, most probably not an issue for me as I had registered my nic before going on any channels :D
[10:26] <Elssha> i need to rename a ton of files
[10:26] <Elssha> from say blabla_yada_##_name
[10:26] <Elssha> to bla_#_name
[10:26] <ct529> Elssha: do they ahve the same extension?
[10:26] <Elssha> yes
[10:27] <Elssha> they're all vid files
[10:27] <nlsthzn> very easy :)
[10:27] <ct529> Elssha: use rename, read man rename
[10:27] <nlsthzn> highlight all... then hit F2
[10:27] <nlsthzn> you then get the option to tayler make the file names...
[10:28] <nlsthzn> add where the progressive number goes etc.
[10:28] <Elssha> F2 nothing happened
[10:28] <Elssha> that's the problem, the numbers aren't progressive
[10:28] <Elssha> one sec
[10:28] <nlsthzn> Elssha: You are using what distro?
[10:29] <Elssha> ubuntu
[10:29] <ct529> Elssha: open a terminal, and use "rename"
[10:29] <Peace-> ...
[10:29] <Peace-> well
[10:29] <nlsthzn> Elssha: K, this works in Dolphin, maybe not in Nautilus
[10:29] <Elssha> 10.04 to be exact
[10:29] <ct529> Elssha: you can read "man rename" it is the fastest and easiest way
[10:29] <Elssha> okay
[10:30] <Elssha> i'll try
[10:30] <Peace-> Elssha: this is called name expansion or something like that
[10:30] <Peace-> Elssha: for file in *.* ;do ffmpeg -i "$file" -ab 128k  "${file%.*}".mp3 ; done
[10:30] <Peace-> Elssha: this convert all
[10:30] <Peace-> on mp3 files
[10:30] <Elssha> peace
[10:30] <ct529> Peace-: why don't you just use rename?
[10:30] <Peace-> so basically...
[10:30] <Elssha> what i want is
[10:30] <Peace-> ${file%.*}.mp3
[10:30] <Elssha> Pathology_Sanchez_Ch01b_Overview.mpg    >>>  Path_Ch1b_Overview.mpg
[10:31] <Elssha> that's one of like 200 files
[10:31] <me__> Hi. Is there a way to install "lighther" more "basic" version of kde? I see that there are some kde-base packages but no meta and I am bit confused.
[10:31] <Elssha> some have a diff name after the first _
[10:31] <ct529> Peace-: do they all start with Pathology? do they all have Sanchez?
[10:32] <ct529> sorry, it was meant for Elssha
[10:32] <Elssha> all start with Pathology, not all have sanchez (one of three or four though, so i can run 4 things fine) then all have Ch#letter and the name of the section
[10:33] <Peace-> Elssha: wait i will try
[10:34] <ct529> Elssha: do a backup first
[10:34] <Elssha> so  Pathology_[1 of 3 names]_Ch[#letter]_[name].mpg
[10:34] <Elssha> i'll do a test folder, there's like 33gigs of them >_>
[10:35] <Peace-> sorry i have no time right now
[10:35] <Peace-> maybe after 12.00
[10:35] <Elssha> no worries peace
[10:35] <ct529> Elssha: try rename 's/Pathology_*_Ch/Path_Ch//' *.mpg
[10:35] <Peace-> but you can do with bash expansion
[10:36] <ct529> Elssha: in the folder, but only after having done a backup
[10:36] <Elssha> idk bash at all
[10:36] <Elssha> backing up now
[10:36] <ct529> Elssha: idk????
[10:36] <Elssha> i don't know
[10:36] <ct529> Elssha: sorry, I put too many /
[10:36] <ct529> Elssha: try rename 's/Pathology_*_Ch/Path_Ch/' *.mpg
[10:37] <Elssha> wait, that won't work, where does the actual name go
[10:37] <ct529> Elssha: the ' are important, do not forget them
[10:37] <ct529> Elssha: rename takes a regex
[10:37] <Elssha> so  Pathology_[1 of 3 names]_Ch[#letter]_[filename].mpg
[10:38] <ct529> Elssha: 's/Pathology_*_Ch/Path_Ch/' is a regex
[10:38] <Elssha> the [filename] part
[10:38] <ct529> Elssha: substitutes Pathology_whatever_Ch with Path_Ch in the file name of all files with extension mpg
[10:43] <Elssha> i did  rename 's/Pathology_*_Ch/Path_Ch/' *.mpg nothing happened
[10:43] <Elssha> rename 's/Pathology_*_Ch/ Path_Ch/' *.mpg
[10:45] <ct529> Elssha: I have just done on mine, it definitively works
[10:46] <Elssha> the one i posted up top?
[10:47] <ct529> Elssha: well, I changed the keywords and renominated all of the video files on my computer, and then back (withut backup ;) ....)
[10:47] <ct529> Elssha: and it works
[10:47] <Elssha> i'll try again
[10:47] <ct529> Elssha: you left one space too many!
[10:48] <ct529> Elssha: there is a space between the / and Path
[10:49] <ct529> Elssha: and there should not be one
[10:50] <Elssha> rename 's/Pathology_*_Ch/Path_Ch/' *.mpg
[10:50] <Elssha>  ran that
[10:50] <Elssha> still nothing
[10:51] <Elssha> here are the filenames in the test folder Pathology_Sanchez_Ch08a_Definition.mpg
[10:51] <Elssha> Pathology_Sanchez_Ch08b_SysTypesAmyloid.mpg
[10:51] <Elssha> Pathology_Sanchez_Ch08c_LocalTypesAmyloid.mpg
[10:51] <Elssha> Pathology_Sanchez_Ch08d_ClinicalFeatures.mpg
[10:51] <Elssha> Pathology_Sanchez_Ch09a_Definition.mpg
[10:51] <FloodBotK3> Elssha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <rork> Elssha: you're using a perl regular expression, * isn't a wildcard but mean 'zero or more repetitions of the previous character' use `.*` instead: `rename 's/Pathology_.*_Ch/Path_Ch/' *.mpg`
[10:54] <rork> . = any character
[10:54] <Elssha> that worked!
[10:57] <rork> Elssha: using .* is potentialy dangerous though, as it will find the longest possible string e.g. Pathology_Sanchez_Ch09b_Characters would be renamed to Pathology_Characters (I always remember that stuff right after sending the command)
[10:58] <Elssha> yeah, it did that to a couple
[10:58] <Elssha> but i did ls before doing it so i can re input the ch #'s
[10:58] <Elssha> ^_^
[10:58] <ct529> Elssha: yes you are right, it does not work on your filenames, I wonder why
[10:59] <ct529> Elssha: it works on mine
[10:59] <Elssha> no clue
[10:59] <Elssha> but rork solved it so all is good ^_^
[11:00] <Elssha> each folder (6) has a slight var so i gotta run it a couple more times after i fix the couple errors (the one rork mentioned above)
[11:00] <ct529> Elssha: try rename 's/Pathology_.*_C/Pat_C/' *mpg
[11:00] <ct529> Elssha: sorry, rename 's/Pathology_.*_C/Path_C/' *mpg
[11:00] <rork> Elssha: is the chapter number standard? You can use rename
[11:00] <ct529> there are a bit too many regex to my taste
[11:01] <rork> `rename 's/Pathology_Ch\d\d\w_C/Path_C/' *.mpg`
[11:02] <rork> \d = numeric, \w = alphanumeric
[11:02] <ct529> rork: it does have a name in the middle, of variable length, hence the need for the .*
[11:02]  * rork needs coffee
[11:03] <ct529> rork: so 's/Pathology_.*_Ch/Path_c' *.mpg :-D
[11:03] <ct529> rork: me too :-D
[11:03] <ct529> rork: (did not put the .)
[11:03] <Elssha> path done
[11:03] <Elssha> on to micro (needs to check what those look like)
[11:04] <Elssha> meh, micro can stay
[11:05] <Elssha> whoever named these was annoying
[11:05] <Elssha> there's a file named micro_ch03b_2_name
[11:05] <Elssha> -_-;
[11:05] <Elssha> why not just 03c
[11:05] <Elssha> anyway, thanks for the help here ^_^
[11:06] <ct529> Elssha: np
[11:06] <Elssha> i'm useless in commandline that's beyond the nice short basic things like cd >_>
[11:06] <Elssha> just curious
[11:06] <ct529> Elssha: man and google are your friend there
[11:06] <Elssha> yeah
[11:06] <Elssha> but i can't always understand man >_<
[11:06] <rork> you're welcome, I can also suggest [^_]*  instead of .*, that will just match zero or more none underscores
[11:07] <Elssha> now to ssh all these into my touch >_>
[11:09] <Elssha> oh, if i wanted to rename say path_something to pathology_something else it'd just be rename path_*/pathology_*
[11:09] <Peace-> Elssha: did you know krename?
[11:09] <Elssha> no clue what that is
[11:10] <Elssha> i am on ubuntu though >_>
[11:10] <Elssha> but the channel won't let me join for some reason
[11:11] <Peace-> Elssha: maybe because the are rules..
[11:11] <Peace-> and you did not respect them ..
[11:11] <Elssha> this is the first time i've gone on freenode
[11:11] <thecaptain2000> hi, I just created a user using the  adduser command I cannot ftp into that system using that user / password (i can using different users) is there a particular group that needs to be added?
[11:11] <Elssha> literally
[11:12] <Elssha> so there's no way i could have
[11:12] <Elssha> since i've never even gone there
[11:13] <Elssha> i've done a few posts on the forum
[11:13] <Elssha> but that
[11:13] <Elssha> s it
[11:13] <Elssha> and i don't think i ever posted anything wrong 0_o
[11:13] <thecaptain2000> hi, I just created a user using the adduser command I cannot even ssh into that system using that new user / password (i can using different users) is there a particular group that needs to be added?
[11:15] <Gnea> Peace-: who?
[11:15] <Peace-> Elssha:
[11:15] <Gnea> Elssha: hi
[11:15] <Elssha> hi Gnea
[11:15] <Gnea> Elssha: have you identified with services?
[11:15] <Elssha> ^_^
[11:15] <Elssha> ???
[11:15] <Gnea> !register
[11:16] <Gnea> Elssha: please follow that link and get registered, then you may join #ubuntu
[11:16] <Elssha> ah okay
[11:18] <Peace-> Gnea: by the way...
[11:18] <Elssha> registered
[11:19] <Peace-> Gnea: why does he need to register
[11:19] <Elssha> just did the verify
[11:19] <Elssha> still getting the cannot join #ubuntu (you are banned). msg >_<
[11:19]  * Elssha = she
[11:20] <Gnea> hrm
[11:20] <Elssha> i honestly have never been on this server before >_<
[11:20] <Gnea> Peace-: it's required for anyone to join #ubuntu and many other channels
[11:21] <Gnea> Elssha: one moment, it's possible someone had your ip or within the range and was doing some bad things
[11:21] <geekosopher> that explains, the channel of geeks allergic to girls :D
[11:21] <Gnea> hardly :)
[11:21] <Elssha> lol
[11:22] <Peace-> Gnea: i guess i never registered my ncik when i was noob
[11:22] <Peace-> xD
[11:22] <Elssha> that's what i get for studying in PL....
[11:23] <Gnea> oh wow
[11:23] <geekosopher> PL for Poland?
[11:23]  * Elssha wouldn't be surprised if they recycled the ip's here
[11:23] <Elssha> yeah
[11:23] <Gnea> Elssha: all of neoplus has been banned.
[11:24] <Elssha> from what i hear it's the land of hackers
[11:24] <Gnea> hackers aren't bad
[11:24] <Gnea> it's the crackers that are the offenders :)
[11:24] <Peace-> Elssha: on #ubuntu-ops they are looking for your problem
[11:24] <Elssha> never said they are
[11:24] <Elssha> gnea said my provider was banned
[11:24] <Elssha> well, i'm with TP
[11:24] <Elssha> but i think neostrada is a subset there of or something
[11:25] <Elssha> not sure how to check what it is atm
[11:25] <Gnea> Elssha: how long have you been with your current isp?
[11:25] <ct529> Elssha: oh come on, that is a bit racist
[11:26] <Gnea> ct529: how is it racist?
[11:26] <Elssha> my friend brags about it ct
[11:26] <Elssha> >_>
[11:26] <Elssha> <_<
[11:26] <Elssha> >_>
[11:26] <FloodBotK3> Elssha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <ct529> Gnea: PL=land of hackers
[11:26] <Elssha> as i said, my friend brags about it
[11:26] <Tm_T> Elssha: you should be able to join #ubuntu now
[11:26] <Tm_T> !ot | also this
[11:27] <Gnea> ct529: that's not racist. racism is when you're talking about people of a certain race, not whether they're hackers or not.
[11:27] <ct529> Elssha: if I had 1Euro for every time someone bragged about IT skills, I would be Richard Branson
[11:27] <Gnea> right.
[11:27]  * Gnea tips hat to Tm_T
[11:27] <Elssha> gnea, this is the 2nd yr i think, though they changed something a little over 3 mon ago
[11:27] <Elssha> yay, it works now ^_^
[11:27] <Gnea> Elssha: aah, well enjoy :)
[11:27] <Elssha> thanks Tm
[11:28] <Elssha> besides ct, me = polish too
[11:29] <Mamarok> Elssha: which is again off topic
[11:29] <Elssha> well, thanks for the help everyone ^_^
[11:30] <geekosopher> Elssha: happy hacking ;)
[11:30] <Elssha> lol, more like studying (hack skillz = 1)
[11:31] <geekosopher> can someone confirm if kde.org site is down?
[11:31] <Fredd> Yep
[11:32] <ct529> geekosopher: yep
[11:32] <Tm_T> it's (quickly) scheduled mainteance
[11:32] <geekosopher> ok
[11:33] <geekosopher> I just wanted to have a quick look at the difference between 4.5 and 4.6
[11:33] <ct529> does any know how to get krunner to stick onto the desktop, and not to disappear after a search?
[11:33] <Tm_T> geekosopher: you might like to see if google cache serves
[11:33] <geekosopher> Tm_T: good idea
[11:35] <ct529> (on kubuntu 1004 lts 64 bit)
[11:40] <geekosopher> will maverick get backport love when 4.6 gets monthly updates?
[11:40] <geekosopher> (no pun intended)
[11:40] <Tm_T> geekosopher: no, backports will be only bugfix releases
[11:41] <Tm_T> geekosopher: but PPA is another story
[11:41] <geekosopher> Tm_T: sorry, yes I was referring to ppa/backports
[11:41] <Tm_T> I would expect that to happen
[11:42] <talespin_kit> I am using kubuntu distribution, I have both gvim and vim(which runs on console) installed. I use vim(console) for c++ programming. Should i use gvim or vim(console) ?. Does gvim has any advantage using vim ?.
[11:43] <Tm_T> talespin_kit: you can use Kate too, it has vim mode
[11:43] <Tm_T> talespin_kit: but IIRC the difference is mostly just GUI
[11:44] <ct529> talespin_kit: kate is pretty good, have you tried it?
[11:45] <talespin_kit> Tm_T: which of IIRC in this did you mean http://www.acronymfinder.com/Slang/IIRC.html
[11:46] <Tm_T> talespin_kit: the recall correctly one (:
[11:48] <ct529> how unstable is nepomuk on kubuntu 1004 at 64bit? I cannot believ it has crashed again ....
[11:48] <thecaptain2000> does a user need to belong to a particular group so that you can ssh or ftp into a system using that user id/pwd?
[11:49] <talespin_kit> ct529: i all try one day, right now i want to master vim and emacs for some time.
[11:50] <ct529> talespin_kit: then I suggest you stick to the text mode
[11:50] <talespin_kit> why? what advantage it has over gui?
[11:51] <ct529> talespin_kit: I though you sayd you wanted to master vim .... sorry, misunderstood
[11:51] <thecaptain2000> my question ahs to be either too intelligent of too dumb since it gets consistently ignored, I wonder which one it is...
[11:52] <Tm_T> thecaptain2000: could be that noone who is active just now knows the answer
[11:53] <ct529> thecaptain2000: the reason it that it depends on your system setup
[11:53] <ct529> thecaptain2000: so there is no answer to yur question
[11:53] <ct529> thecaptain2000: but google is your friend
[11:53] <thecaptain2000> Tm_T: it could possibly be
[11:53] <ct529> thecaptain2000: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html
[11:55] <thecaptain2000> I did google for it but I did not find that page, I apreciate it could be dependent upon my configuration but the fact that I could not either ftp or ssh into that system made me suspicious it was a founfamental misunderstanding from my part of what it's going on
[11:55] <ct529> thecaptain2000: could it be firewall'd?
[11:55] <thecaptain2000> no, I can do it with an existing user, just the newly created cannot be used
[11:56] <thecaptain2000>  I mean, I can ssh and ftp with an existing user but not with a newly created one
[11:56] <thecaptain2000> I am using openssh and proftp
[11:57] <ct529> thecaptain2000: you have to check the system setup first, how the permissions are set
[11:57] <ct529> thecaptain2000: there may be a statement allowing only certain groups (admin are often excluded)
[11:58] <thecaptain2000> let me check
[11:58] <ct529> sorry, I have to go
[11:59] <thecaptain2000> ok, thanks anyway
[12:01] <franta> Hi! I'm trying to build kip-upnp-ms on Kubuntu 10.10 with no success it keeps asking for cmake configuration file for HUpnp (I've built latest svn version...) Does anyone know where to find that file?
[12:01] <tusrguhyr> join #drupal
[14:03] <madrazr> Hello all. I installed KDE SC 4.6 from Maverick backports yesterday and the moment I login I start getting segfaults
[14:03] <madrazr> and seems like it segfaults in an infinite loop :D
[14:04] <madrazr> I think it is krunner which is segfaulting
[14:04] <madrazr> is this a known issue?
[14:05] <madrazr> I am not even able to send the error report, the crash screens coming so fast that it interrupts anything I attempt to do
[14:05] <madrazr> http://i.min.us/icgxyW.png is a screenshot
[14:06] <james147> madrazr: first make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[14:06] <madrazr> james147: that is how I installed :)
[14:06] <madrazr> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:07] <madrazr> I did not have kubuntu before, I was running on Ubuntu 10.10
[14:07] <madrazr> I thought KDE SC 4.6 is a cool release and thought will make another attempt to switch to KDE this time
[14:07] <james147> ^^ make sure its still ingstalled :)
[14:07] <madrazr> james147: Ok. Let me send you a screenshot
[14:07] <madrazr> :)
[14:09] <madrazr> james147: http://i.min.us/ieswfw.png
[14:11] <james147> madrazr: ^^ re run the update just to make sure everything is fully uptodate :)
[14:12] <james147> and try a apt-get install -f   as well :)
[14:15] <madrazr> james147: sure, let me run that as well. I have run apt-get update and upgrade at least 8-10 times ever since I installed kubuntu-desktop yesterday
[14:15] <madrazr> just in the hope that, this embarassing bug will be fixed
[14:15] <madrazr> :P
[14:15] <james147> (just making sure)
[14:15] <madrazr> let me run again
[14:16] <madrazr> james147: done http://paste.pocoo.org/show/328706/
[14:16] <james147> ^^ you still ahve 5 upgrades
[14:18] <madrazr> james147: how will I upgrade them?
[14:18] <madrazr> first of all, how do I list them?
[14:19] <james147> madrazr: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[14:19] <james147> that should list them before instlling them
[14:22] <madrazr> there is nothing like full-upgrade
[14:22] <madrazr> :D
[14:22] <madrazr> james147: there is nothing like full-upgrade :D
[14:22] <madrazr> E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[14:22] <james147> dist-upgrade sorry :) full-upgrade is aptitude
[14:23] <madrazr> james147: 47.6 MB to be downloaded!
[14:23] <madrazr> thats a lot!
[14:25] <james147> madrazr: probally means your missing somehting kde needs
[14:25] <james147> what packages are being upgraded?
[14:25] <madrazr> james147: libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 linux-headers-2.6.35-25 linux-headers-2.6.35-25-generic linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic plasma-scriptengine-declarative
[14:26] <james147> hmm, dont think any of them are required, but i would installthem anyway and see
[14:26] <madrazr> james147: I have put them for installation too
[14:26] <madrazr> james147: bandwidth here is too low
[14:26] <madrazr> so will let you know once I am done
[14:33] <dtcrshr> how do i change kde login screen?
[14:34] <Peace-> systemsettings
[14:34] <Peace-> dtcrshr:
[14:34] <dtcrshr> im there
[14:36] <james147> dtcrshr: "kdesudo kcmshell4 kdm
[14:36] <dtcrshr> peace, looked at the appearence options, cant find where specifically
[14:36] <Peace-> dtcrshr: there is a filter
[14:36] <Peace-> dtcrshr: screen login
[14:36] <james147> dtcrshr: its under login manager in system setting
[14:37] <dtcrshr> if I type screen login in the filter all options go grey
[14:37] <james147> ^^ the above command will execute it directly as root (needs to run as root for get new stuffs button to be able to install stuff)
[14:37] <dtcrshr> maybe my user cant do that, ill try james147 suggestion
[14:37] <sercan> selamun eleyküm
[14:37] <sercan> bir sorum olacak
[14:38] <Peace-> dtcrshr: infact the only you can pick is login screen
[14:38] <Peace-> xD
[14:38] <Peace-> dtcrshr: ...
[14:38] <sercan> ubuntu kurdum 11.04 sürümü olup olamadığını bilmiyorum
[14:38] <james147> sercan: should be here: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/29/plasma-desktopPH6629.jpg
[14:39] <james147> dtcrshr:  even ^^
[14:39] <Peace-> james147: wth dark scheme
[14:39] <Peace-> xD
[14:39] <james147> Peace-: :D
[14:39] <sercan> james147 anlamadım bu resmi
[14:39] <sercan> türkçe bilen yokmu
[14:39] <Peace-> LOL
[14:39] <dtcrshr> that worked james147
[14:40] <dtcrshr> ill reboot the session to test
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:40] <Peace-> dtcrshr: you can test it
[14:40] <Peace-> without reboot
[14:40] <ox3a> I installed kde and removed gnu in Ubuntu , So can i ask any questions here please?
[14:40]  * james147 notes that you just need to restart kdm
[14:40] <Peace-> ox3a: ask
[14:40] <sercan> unity ubuntu sürümünü nasıl kurabilirim
[14:40]  * Peace- +1 james147
[14:40] <ox3a> Peace-, thanks
[14:40] <Peace-> !english | sercan
[14:41] <james147> ox3a: you can ask any general ubuntu questions here :) we are just likly to give you the solution using kde
[14:41] <sercan> How to install Ubuntu version of unity
[14:41] <dtcrshr> another question: im trying to record my desktop for a video tutorial. when i try to choose a window in recorditnow the box is sticked to the app , so i cant select a full screen, im using 2 monitors, i wish only to record one of them
[14:41] <james147> sercan: ask in #ubuntu
[14:42] <ox3a> I installed only kdebase-workspace,kdebase-apps. I am trying to install nvidia but when i press cont+alter f1 it is not starting console mode
[14:43] <james147> ox3a: what is it doing?
[14:43] <sercan> I did the upgrade but nothing changed as I installed the new Ubuntu
[14:43] <sercan> but did not change anything as I did the upgrade I installed the new ubuntu
[14:44] <ox3a> james147, It just output some txt and not starting then
[14:44] <james147> ox3a: what text?
[14:44] <ox3a> i was tried recovery mode but it also not doing anything
[14:45] <ox3a> james147, debuging
[14:45] <JediMaster> hi guys, I've upgraded this laptop from older version of kubuntu in the past, just installed KDE 4.6, but I can't seem to get the network-manager applet on the panel
[14:45] <Peace-> JediMaster: mm
[14:45] <Peace-> JediMaster: it look like grey?
[14:45] <JediMaster> I've got a network icon, so I can connect to the wireless etc, but I can't seem to get the nice new network manager applet that shows the signal strength graphs etc.
[14:46] <JediMaster> Peace-, yes
[14:46] <ox3a> james147, What is the problem?
[14:46] <Peace-> JediMaster: but you got the connection i mean
[14:46] <james147> JediMaster: are you running knetworkmanager?
[14:46] <james147> ox3a: not entirly sure
[14:46] <JediMaster> I've tried to add applets but it's not listed there, but I can see it on the Kubuntu 10.10 live usb stick
[14:46] <JediMaster> Peace-, yes, I'm conneccted
[14:46] <JediMaster> james147, I believe so
[14:47] <Peace-> JediMaster: ok so... it's a plasmoid i guess
[14:47] <james147> JediMaster: the  kill it, you cant have kentwork amanger and the network widget running at the same time
[14:47] <JediMaster> james147, network-manager-kde is installed
[14:48] <JediMaster> I can see NetworkManager running as root and knetworkmanager running as my user
[14:48] <Peace-> JediMaster: you mean this stuff ? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/29/plasma-desktopgC1461.jpg
[14:48] <james147> JediMaster: what happens whtn you click on the widget?
[14:48] <JediMaster> Peace-, yes, that's the one I want
[14:49] <ox3a> then how can i install nvidia?
[14:49] <Peace-> !nvidia
[14:49] <Peace-> ox3a: anyway if you type
[14:49] <Peace-> ox3a: driver on the search bar of kde
[14:49] <Peace-> ox3a: should get this
[14:49] <JediMaster> james147, it comes up with the two wireless networks I have configured, connect to other networks, enable wireless (ticked), and manage onnections
[14:50] <Peace-> ox3a: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/29/plasma-desktoplF1461.jpg
[14:50] <Peace-> ox3a: that program should help you to install the nvidia driver
[14:50] <james147> JediMaster: you want "plasma-widget-networkmanagment in stalled
[14:50] <james147> ^^ installing taht will remove knetworkmanager though
[14:50] <JediMaster> that's the one, it uninstalls knetworkmanager
[14:51] <ox3a> Peace-, thanks but i am trying to install it manually (downloaded from nvidia site)
[14:51] <james147> JediMaster: install it, close knetowrk manager and add the  widget to you panel or systray
[14:51] <james147> ox3a: its not advised to install it directly from the nvidia site
[14:52] <JediMaster> james147, thanks, I can see it on add widgets now
[14:52] <JediMaster> thanks guys, this will likely kill my wifi, so bbiab =)
[14:52] <ox3a> james147, is it using latest nvidia repo?
[14:53] <james147> ox3a: no, but they tend to work beter in kubuntu then the one from the nvidia site
[14:54] <james147> i would advise looking for a more uptodate repo then installing directly fdrom nvidia
[15:01] <aeslava> good morning
[15:03] <kt_> Hello all
[15:04] <kt_> james147:  hi buddy
[15:04] <james147> kt_: hey
[15:04] <kt_> how are you, im finally using the latest version now :)
[15:04] <ox3a> Peace-, I can't search my driver; how can i search it?
[15:06] <Peace-> ox3a: ?
[15:06] <madrazr> james147: miraculously, it works!!!
[15:06] <madrazr> after dist-upgrade
[15:06] <Peace-> ox3a: you mean where?
[15:06] <madrazr> james147: thank you very much
[15:06] <madrazr> james147: just one help. What package should I install or settings I must change to make my GNOME apps look better?
[15:06] <madrazr> I use Pidgin and it looks horrible :D
[15:07] <Peace-> madrazr: you shoudl load the script
[15:07] <kt_> james is very helpful guy, despite of being a noob he's been trying to help me non-stop for last 48 hours
[15:07] <ox3a> Peace-, It should notify me that nvidia driver available
[15:07] <madrazr> Peace-: which script?
[15:08] <Peace-> madrazr: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/29/plasma-desktopDc1461.jpg
[15:08]  * james147 was sure he was passed during at least part of the last 48 hours :p  ...
[15:09] <ox3a> Peace-, I am looking that but i can't understand how you get this
[15:09] <james147> ox3a: do you have ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ?
[15:10] <james147> (or the -kde4 version?)
[15:10] <ox3a> kde4 latest
[15:10] <james147> ox3a: sym link it to the other
[15:12] <ox3a> ?
[15:13] <james147> ox3a: run "ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[15:14] <ox3a> done
[15:14] <james147> also check the settings in system settings > application appearence > Gtk styles
[15:14] <madrazr> Peace-: thank you very much
[15:14] <dthacker> how do I add a repository to kpackagekit.    I have used kdesudo to start it, and I do not see an add button on the settings page
[15:16] <ox3a> james147, done . and?
[15:16] <james147> ox3a: does it work?
[15:16] <ox3a> james147, yeah
[15:16] <ox3a> james147, i did what you told
[15:17] <ox3a> james147, But nvidia?
[15:18] <james147> ox3a: did you install the drivers in jocket-kde?
[15:19] <james147> jockey-kde even
[15:19] <ox3a> no
[15:19] <ox3a> do i need it and why?
[15:21] <ox3a> jockey-kde
[15:21]  * james147 is confused... he should stop trying to help so many people at once :S
[15:21] <BluesKaj> dthacker, usually you add a repos by either copy and pasting to /etc/apt/source.list or using this command in the terminal : sudo add-apt-repository "deb name of repositoru url" , without the quotes .
[15:21] <ezra-s> Is it possible to hide joins and parts in Quassel? I can't find it :P
[15:22] <james147> ezra-s: right click the chat
[15:22] <BluesKaj> correction : /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:22] <ezra-s> james147, thank you very much ;)
[15:22] <ezra-s> it's my first time using it
[15:23] <ezra-s> Im giving kde another try, this time Im enjoying it much more
[15:23] <james147> ox3a: why are you trying to get the drivers from te nvdia site? are the ones in teh repo not working?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> I gave quassel a chance , but I dont like sidebars ...prefer the chatroom tabs at the bottom , guess it's a habit/preference from my old mirc days
[15:25] <ox3a> james147, if it is latest version then i do not have problem
[15:25] <james147> ox3a: ^^ why do you have a problem if it is not? have your tried it?
[15:25] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, well all I care is how the messages of the channel show up and different network nick customization and things like that, that's my habit :)
[15:26] <ox3a> james147, I did not try it yet
[15:26] <james147> ox3a: then try it, if it works then its not really worth the hassel of trying to manually install them
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ezra-s,yeah I like konversation because on can have everything on one page
[15:27] <BluesKaj> one
[15:27] <ox3a> james147, Which package(the name)?
[15:28] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, good layout?
[15:29] <ezra-s> is there a way in quassel to show whois info in the active window?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, look in the freenode text
[15:32] <ezra-s> you mean the status window?
[15:32] <ezra-s> I prefer to see my whois in the active channel
[15:32] <james147> ox3a: either run "jockey-kde" (called hardware drivers in the menu) or install "nvidia-current"
[15:32] <james147> ^^ jockey is the prefured way
[15:34] <james147> ezra-s: check its settings, there is an option to redirect some text
[15:34] <ezra-s> alright, on it
[15:34] <ezra-s> going to give a quick glance to konversation before I check any further, brb
[15:36] <ox3a> james147, Don't i need to configure anything manually(Just apt-get install nvidia-current)?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> james147,ok so the gnome equivalent is jockey-gtk ?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ox3a, best to take james147 advice, apt won't configure the driver properly unles you drop to a tty and stop kdm first
[15:37] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm jockey-kde
[15:38] <ezra-s> hello again from konversation :P
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I'm talking about gnome/ubuntu
[15:41] <ezra-s> mmm... both have interesting things, don't know which one to pick
[15:42] <james147> BluesKaj: -gtk is the gnome interface
[15:43] <ezra-s> BluesKaj: do you know how to disable join/part messages in active window with Konversation?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, click on settings/configure konversation/ behavior/chatwindow/hide join/part/nick events
[15:48] <ezra-s> thanks! :)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> np :)
[15:50] <ezra-s> I'd like to find a weather plasmoid kind of like the android mobile ones , anyone know if there is something similar and where?
[15:51] <james147> ezra-s: best place to look is kde-look.org
[15:51] <ezra-s> I will take a look thank you
[15:51] <james147> thats where most plasmoids end up getting posted
[15:51] <ezra-s> sorry Im so buggy im adapting to kde
[15:52] <BluesKaj> ezra-s,also click the cashew in the panel , add widgets , there a couple od weather applets theretoo
[15:52] <ezra-s> I checked those but I dont like them much, they seem to be based on a site that is giving me bogus info about where I live
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, yeah, I never found them useful Canada , so I didn't bother with them
[15:53] <BluesKaj> for
[15:54] <ezra-s> hehehe
[15:55] <james147> ezra-s: can you configure them to use diferent serrvers?
[15:55] <ezra-s> I think not
[15:55] <ezra-s> all I see is a search option for my city
[15:55] <ezra-s> when I select it one is saying -273º in my city and the other does not seem to be loading any useful data either
[15:56] <ezra-s> but anyways it is not very important thank you :)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> -273 Kelvin ...heh that's as cold as it gets
[15:57] <james147> BluesKaj: isent 0K the coldest you can get?
[15:57] <james147> -273C  == 0K
[15:57] <james147> if i remember correctly
[15:58] <ezra-s> well im not frozen yet :)
[16:00] <ezra-s> is there any way to graphically map a smb share from another box in my network under kde? only option is trying to browse the network and I just want to map it, and add it is as a place in dolphin in the left column if possible
[16:00] <BluesKaj> james147, it may be ..always found the degrees kelvin / celcius  conversion confusing in terms of the way it's expressed
[16:00] <james147> ezra-s: network > add network folder?
[16:01] <james147> BluesKaj: basically kelvin starts at absalute zero  (aka -273.15C)
[16:02] <ezra-s> james147: in dolphin? all it seems to allow me is browse my network but it is not giving results, in fact dolphin is trying my default smb domain (but it is just a machine sharing no samba domain or anything)
[16:02] <ezra-s> nevermind
[16:02] <ezra-s> its asking me for user and password but the window was minimized automatically so I didnt see it
[16:03]  * james147 sets a window rule so password windows are set to always on top :D
[16:03] <ezra-s> :D
[16:04] <ezra-s> Im so used to gnome, it takes some time to swithc some little habbits
[16:04] <BluesKaj> james147, that's it I'd forgotten about the "absolute zero " ..thanks for the clarification :0
[16:05] <BluesKaj> :)
[16:07] <ezra-s> in celsius 0º is when water freezes
[16:08] <james147> which is 273.15K  :D
[16:09] <ezra-s> hehehe
[16:14] <ezra-s> I tried to play a song from the smb share and now the panel and all plasmoid related stuff is frozen...
[16:14] <ezra-s> :P
[16:15] <ezra-s> they keep working but I can't move them or interact with the panel or add any more plasmoids to the desktop
[16:18] <BluesKaj> ezra-s,  I have a chat buddy who lives in New Mexicoin the US and he pirates satellite signals and frequently watches Canadian TV ..we use the celcius scale here and metric measure for everything else except height and weight descitions of ppl wanted by the police. He couldn't understand why it only gets up to 35 or so degrees in the summer :)
[16:18] <BluesKaj> descriptions
[16:19] <BluesKaj> oops , forgot that should have been for offtopic I guess
[16:20] <ezra-s> HEHE, LOL
[16:20] <BluesKaj> 35 degrees F is only +1C :)
[16:20] <ezra-s> wops
[16:21] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, are you using samba or smb client
[16:22] <BluesKaj> they do the same thing , but sometimes samba freezes when using samba shares
[16:23] <BluesKaj> the GUI is clunky
[16:27] <ezra-s> Im using default kde graphical environment to access the smb share
[16:29] <BluesKaj> default kde graphical environment ...what else could it be  :)
[16:34] <kt_> ok so whats a good compiler for kubuntu
[16:34] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, what I mean is if wish to use smb without samba GUI , one sets up the shares by using "add network folder' in dolphin / network
[16:34] <kt_> when i want a IDE
[16:36] <kt_> hey when i do uptime it shows 2 users online
[16:36] <kt_> while im the only user online on my root, what is this?
[16:36] <ezra-s> BluesKaj: thats what i did
[16:36] <james147> kt_: first: a compiler for what language?
[16:36] <kt_> C, C#, Java, c++
[16:36] <kt_> i use these 3
[16:36] <kt_> should support windows programming
[16:37] <ezra-s> oh well, gf is pressuring to do something, gotta go, have fun people! and thanks for the help james and BluesKaj!
[16:37] <james147> well, openjdk-6-jdg (if i remember correctly) contains a good java compiler (javac)
[16:37] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, good !
[16:37] <kt_> ok james we will sort this out later
[16:37] <kt_> first tell me why is it showing 2 users
[16:38] <james147> for c and c++ its best to use gcc (or g++) easier way to get that is to install "build-essentials"
[16:38] <james147> kt_: which two users?
[16:38] <kt_> i tried command "who"
[16:38] <kt_> it shows 2 users, uptime also show 2 users online
[16:38] <kt_> while im only user online
[16:38] <james147> kt_: yes, what does it output?
[16:39] <james147> kt_: so its showing your user 2 times?
[16:39] <james147> thats just that you ahve a terminal or somehting open
[16:39] <james147> one is you loged into the gui, the others are any terminals you have
[16:39] <dthacker> I've lost my second monitor after upgrading to 4.6.      Installing and configuring Nvidia drivers does not seem to help.   Ideas?
[16:39] <kt_> well i used terminal yesterday also, it was showing 1 user
[16:39] <kt_> now it shows two
[16:40] <james147> the second column tell you where they are loged in, something like :0  means display 0 (the gui)  tty1-6 bean the tty consoles and pts/0 are any terminals you ahve running inside x
[16:40] <kt_> kt@kt-computer:~$ who
[16:40] <kt_> kt       pts/0        2011-01-29 20:01 (:0)
[16:40] <kt_> kt       pts/1        2011-01-29 20:06 (:0.0)
[16:41] <dthacker> when I attempt to save my nvidia configuration I get "failed to parse existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:41] <kt_> james : who command gives that output
[16:41] <james147> kt_: yeah, that dosent sound like anything to worry about
[16:41] <BluesKaj> dthacker, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:42] <kt_> but why was it showing 1 user yesterday
[16:42] <kt_> and now 2?
[16:42] <james147> dthacker: stop X and run "sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview"
[16:43] <james147> (assuming you want twinview_)
[16:47] <james147> kt_: http://linux.die.net/man/4/pts  << that explains what the pts can be
[16:50] <BluesKaj> dthacker, check this method http://paste.ubuntu.com/559957/
[16:53] <kt_> kt@kt-computer:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[16:53] <kt_> Reading package lists... Done
[16:53] <kt_> Building dependency tree
[16:53] <kt_> Reading state information... Done
[16:53] <kt_> E: Unable to locate package build-essentials
[16:53] <FloodBotK3> kt_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <kt_> gives that error james :o
[16:53] <BluesKaj> kt_, it's build-essential
[16:54] <kt_> k
[16:54] <dthacker> yay! second monitor is back
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dthacker, good, btw , which nvidia card do you have?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> bbl
[17:04] <kt_> ubuntu has pico ?
[17:04] <kt_> i dont like using nano, pico is much better
[17:06] <kt_> btw are there any firewalls for linux?
[17:06] <kt_> like zonealarm for windows
[17:37] <lumos_> hey, when I type "pacman -S kdebase-workspace" it tells me no display possible, do I need to reinstall everything to get this working or what..I'm new to Linux and very confused :P
[17:41] <lumos_> Hello?
[17:41] <Daskreech> lumos_: Why are you using pacman?
[17:42] <claydoh> lumos_: pacman? using arch?
[17:49] <Peace-> hahahaha
[17:49] <Peace-> lumos_: kubuntu is not arch
[17:49] <Peace-> kubuntu uses apt
[17:49] <Peace-> arch packman
[17:50] <Peace-> ...
[17:50] <Peace-> #arch should be your channel
[17:50] <steffen_> thanks
[17:51] <steffen_> what is a rpm package?
[17:52] <lumos_> Sorry, and yeah...that was dumb of me, but i was getting desperate, startx and nothing else will work anyway
[17:53] <Tm_T> !rpm | steffen_
[17:55] <Peace-> lumos_: omg only expert should work with arch
[17:56] <Peace-> the others should start with buntu family
[17:56] <Peace-> then with time... you can even think to get other distro
[17:56] <Peace-> less intuitive...
[17:56] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, i hate to say this but alien was the only way i could install google earth on maverick..it would fail to launch using the default install methos
[17:56] <Peace-> BluesKaj: xD
[17:56] <Peace-> i used a lots of time aline
[17:56] <Peace-> alien
[17:59] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: blame google (;
[18:00] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, yeah , I could have installed libcore by itself instaed of letting alien do it but it was too late
[18:10] <kt_> how can i see total space of my box and total space free and used?
[18:12] <rtdos> is there an alternative to virtualbox ?
[18:14] <kt_> ?
[18:18] <rork> kt_: `df -h` shows that information for each partition
[18:19] <kt_> each partition?
[18:19] <kt_> but i guess i have only 1
[18:29] <Guest3093> hi, I'm using kubuntu 10.04 & can't open kmess
[18:29] <Guest3093> always disconnects
[18:31] <c2tarun> sorry to ask this but what is kmess?
[18:31] <kt_> hey
[18:34] <Guest3093> c2tarun mseenger client
[18:35] <bajk-tragbar> mh kubuntu's setup partitioner is so bad, I cant dscribe it
[18:35] <bajk-tragbar> it is slow as hell, it crashes frequently...
[18:36] <bajk-tragbar> eh, lol, it crashes all the time... I cannot even get the system running, the usb live medium
[18:37] <bajk-tragbar> I always end up on the kdm login screen and typing ubuntu and no passwords throws me to a garbled screen and then back to the login
[18:38] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar kubuntu's setup partitioner it's teh same gnome
[18:38] <bajk-tragbar> I don't care if it's the same as Windows', the fact is, it crashes frequently
[18:39] <bajk-tragbar> hm but there seems to be something terribly wrong
[18:39] <bajk-tragbar> I cannot even get the live desktop to start
[18:39] <bajk-tragbar> nh, maybe I#ll just boot into the normal kubuntu and use a DECENT partition manager :)
[18:44] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar maybe is because ur media doensn't support format type?
[18:44] <Guest3093> I mean some smicro sd only supports fat 32
[18:44] <Guest3093> etc
[18:44] <bajk-tragbar> ?!
[18:44] <bajk-tragbar> 1. it is no SD card, 2. it shouldnt crash anyway
[18:45] <bajk-tragbar> well, just partitioned the drive using my kubuntu installation, maybe just assigning mount points and then hitting enter works
[18:45] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar
[18:45] <Guest3093> it works, but then u need to put root privilegies in the partition
[18:46] <iulian_> hi all
[18:48] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: I think you have no idea what I am talking about or what youre talking about yourself
[18:48] <bajk-tragbar> but well, it is instralling now
[18:48] <Guest3093> well
[18:49] <Guest3093> u said u can't create partition in kde
[18:49] <Guest3093> because it crashes
[18:49] <bajk-tragbar> Man, FUCK THIS! "ubi-usersetup failed with exit code 10."
[18:50] <bajk-tragbar> okay, sorry, but I dont know who programmed this installer but he did a really bad bad bad jon
[18:50] <bajk-tragbar> job
[18:50] <bajk-tragbar> I could to a better job just using bash scrpts and kdialog command
[18:50] <james147> bajk-tragbar: what problem are you having?
[18:50] <bajk-tragbar> james147: I just want to install kubuntu on my newly bought Solid State Drive
[18:51] <james147> bajk-tragbar: what version and whats going wrong?
[18:52] <bajk-tragbar> starting the live cd dsktop results in a garbed desktop and then I find myself back at kdm
[18:52] <bajk-tragbar> partitioner crashes frequently
[18:52] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar maybe ur iso is corrupted
[18:52] <bajk-tragbar> and now the part where it asks for user name crashed
[18:52] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: nope it isnt, i verified that
[18:52] <bajk-tragbar> i installed my notebook with the same thing recently and it worked fine (except for the partitioner of course)
[18:52] <bajk-tragbar> and the check did say no errors
[18:52] <Guest3093> welll
[18:53] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar
[18:53] <Guest3093> is 10.10
[18:53] <Guest3093> or 10.04
[18:53] <bajk-tragbar> 10.10
[18:53] <Guest3093> mmm
[18:53] <Guest3093> why don't try 10.04?
[18:53] <Guest3093> is lts
[18:53] <Guest3093> and exactly the same
[18:53] <bajk-tragbar> it is not exactly the same
[18:53] <bajk-tragbar> and I dont need an LTS
[18:53] <bajk-tragbar> I want more recent software
[18:53] <bajk-tragbar> AND: the installer of 10.04 is even worse
[18:54] <Guest3093> well
[18:54] <Guest3093> bajmk-tragbar, i used 10.10 & 10.04
[18:54] <Guest3093> & 10.04 works better
[18:54] <bajk-tragbar> MAN ... ubi-partman failed with exit code 141
[18:54] <bajk-tragbar> whats this
[18:54] <bajk-tragbar> I usd 10.04 as well
[18:54] <bajk-tragbar> and it annoyed me
[18:55] <bajk-tragbar> hm, so the files themselves were copied to the other drive
[18:55] <bajk-tragbar> but no user created, no password set and no grub installed
[18:55] <bajk-tragbar> I can maybe fix the grub thing but the rest, dunno
[18:55] <bajk-tragbar> cant this thing just WORK?
[18:55] <bajk-tragbar> KDE is so great, but the Kubuntu team jus ruins it
[18:56] <iulian_> mno
[18:56] <yofel> kubuntu runs fine here, but I do agree that the live installer is a bit unstable..
[18:57] <bajk-tragbar> a bit.. good joke^^
[18:57] <iulian_> if you have live cd just put it on drive  restart your pc and test it
[18:57] <james147> bajk-tragbar: i suggest you try the alternitive installer then
[18:57] <bajk-tragbar> james147: this thing is broken as well
[18:57] <bajk-tragbar> it cannot even declare a partition bootable which renders it *completely* useless
[18:58] <bajk-tragbar> and I dont have an alternate install
[18:58] <bajk-tragbar> and I cannot download it
[18:58] <bajk-tragbar> since my internet is working
[18:58] <bajk-tragbar> (online with tethering mobile phone)
[18:58] <bajk-tragbar> is *not* working
[18:58] <bajk-tragbar> so, I'll give it another try, reset the partitions on the SSD and trying to install again
[18:59] <bajk-tragbar> you cannot even set the time yourself in this installre
[18:59] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar ur laptop/cpu is new?
[18:59] <Guest3093> maybe is a buss trouble
[18:59] <bajk-tragbar> my computer is from March 2010, the notebook from December
[18:59] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: I managed to install kubuntu once in marc
[18:59] <bajk-tragbar> october
[18:59] <bajk-tragbar> when I installed 10.10 the first time
[19:00] <bajk-tragbar> you cannot even resize the installer window in sake of a shiny air theme..
[19:00] <Guest3093> bajk tragbar, u can do this, install another ubuntu version.
[19:00] <Guest3093> then re instal kubuntu on ur install
[19:01] <bajk-tragbar> I have kubuntu already installed
[19:01] <bajk-tragbar> on my normal disk
[19:01] <bajk-tragbar> drive
[19:01] <Guest3093> just format the / partition when install new kubuntu
[19:01] <bajk-tragbar> I want to install Kubuntu on my new hard drive ..
[19:01] <bajk-tragbar> and now loading the partitioner takes forever in this setup..
[19:02] <Guest3093> bajk tragbar, if it's an external hd it's easy
[19:02] <bajk-tragbar> man I would really recommend people using Kubuntu but I will NEVER EVER allow ANYBODY to install it his/herself
[19:02] <bajk-tragbar> lol now the installer recognizes no drives whatsoever
[19:02] <bajk-tragbar> because 1. the installer is just [insert bad wors here], 2. the default configuration is just [insert more bad words here], 3. nothing works out of the box..
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> ubi-partman failed with exxit cod 10.
[19:03] <cac> hello world
[19:03] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar how are u installing it?
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> wtf
[19:03] <dmatt> bajk-tragbar: I do not remember such problems, are you sure your setup is 100% ok and functional
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> dmatt: it is.
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> can I install kubuntu from another kubuntu?
[19:03] <Guest3093> I mean did u create partitions or automatic
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: MANUALLY of COURSE! I dont trust this setup and so I decide which partitions to formatt and which not
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> is it possible to install Kubuntu from another Kubuntu?
[19:03] <dmatt> bajk-tragbar: how can it be when you are not able to login
[19:03] <cac> How can I turn the time into 12 hours set time instead of using 24 hours format??
[19:03] <bajk-tragbar> so that I start my already working installed Kubuntu on my PC and use it to install Kubuntu on the other drive?
[19:04] <bajk-tragbar> cac: learn to count to 24 :) 12 hour clock is only good for analog clocks
[19:04] <bajk-tragbar> dmatt: ?
[19:04] <bajk-tragbar> dmatt: the live desktopp doesnt work, but going to the installer directly works
[19:04] <Guest3093> k-menu>system prefferences>personal
[19:04] <coles> cac: system settings -> locale -> date & time tab
[19:05] <jussi> cac: in the panel clock?
[19:05] <bajk-tragbar> so, can I install kubuntu from inside another kubuntu?
[19:05] <dmatt> bajk-tragbar: troubleshoot live desktop first
[19:05] <cac> thanks a million
[19:05] <bajk-tragbar> dmatt: I click on "Test kubuntu" in the welcome screen, then the screen gets garbld and I get to the kdm screen, when I enter ubuntu and no password there, the screen garbles again and then I am back at kdm
[19:06] <dmatt> bajk-tragbar: boot intpo command line and run startx
[19:06] <james147> bajk-tragbar: if yopu ahve kubuntu already installed on a nother dtrive you can copy the files across and edit some like /etc/fstab and reinstall grub
[19:06] <bajk-tragbar> I want a fresh installation
[19:06] <bajk-tragbar> since my kubuntu installation is broken as hell
[19:07] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar maybe u can  said better information
[19:07] <bajk-tragbar> so I bought this SSD and took the chance to install it fresh
[19:07] <Guest3093> processor
[19:07] <james147> bajk-tragbar: then i suggest you get the alternitive install
[19:07] <Guest3093> grafic card
[19:07] <Guest3093> etc
[19:07] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: I dont think this will lead to any results
[19:07] <bajk-tragbar> james147: I dont have the alternate and I dont have a way of getting it, this is out of the question
[19:08] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar, when i was noob i fucked  my ubuntu/kuvbuntu/xubuntu like 10 times
[19:08] <Randy_T_> you were asking how to install kubuntu from inside kubuntu so james probably assumed you had a good working one
[19:08] <jussi> !language | Guest3093
[19:08] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: super, that doesnt help me in any case
[19:09] <bajk-tragbar> I want a working fast fresh kubuntu install
[19:09] <bajk-tragbar> Randy_T_: I do have a working kubuntu install, that is right
[19:09] <bajk-tragbar> Randy_T_: it is just broken in cases that it is slow as hell, kmix crfashes, kmail isnt working properly, etc
[19:09] <bajk-tragbar> but it is starting and you can work with it
[19:09] <bajk-tragbar> but I want a fresh install
[19:09] <coles> bajk-tragbar: I had one machine where the 32-bit version wouldn't work but the 64-bit version did, try that?
[19:09] <bajk-tragbar> I use the 64 bit
[19:10] <coles> hm, try 32-bit? ;)
[19:10] <bajk-tragbar> I wont
[19:10] <bajk-tragbar> and I have no way of getting to an iso of 3 bit
[19:10] <Guest3093> ...
[19:10] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar u should skip to windows thne
[19:11] <Guest3093> it's easier for  noobs
[19:11] <jussi> Guest3093: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[19:12] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: the most stupid answer I hve ever heard.
[19:12] <Guest3093> jussi then how u call people unexperienced?
[19:13] <bajk-tragbar> Guest3093: you said your self "unexperienced"
[19:13] <aditirex> bajk-tragbar  - did you googled it about the error you get ? it might be a problem with sdd 64bit driver or something
[19:13] <bajk-tragbar> vI wont give up the comfort and advancedness of Linux just because of some broken installer
[19:13] <jussi> Guest3093: inexperienced people?
[19:13] <james147> bajk-tragbar: not sure i can help with the installer, but you could try a new user ( and thus s clean profile) on the current install to see if that clears up any of the issues, then you could copy the install across
[19:13] <Guest3093> well english is not my 1st kanguage, so i don't know how to say properly some ideas i have
[19:13] <Guest3093> sry
[19:14] <bajk-tragbar> james147: hm, maybe I can just copy the / from my current install over, since I think the broken things are more related to my configs in ~ than to the install itself
[19:14] <bajk-tragbar> but I will give the installer another try
[19:14] <james147> Guest3093: either way, suggesting to people to "use  windows instead" is not a very good answer...
[19:15] <Guest3093> james147 it is good idea when ur laptop isn't compatible, like unichrome pro igp, or whatever
[19:16] <james147> bajk-tragbar: yeah, its normally problems in ~ break the most things, cleaning it out (or copying everything but that) might work if the installer fails again
[19:17] <Randy_T_> I want to install the latest version of grub2(1.99rc1) so that i can install it to a usb, but i dont want to override my current grub2 buntu package(1.98). I'm guessing i could just use a different prefix in ./configure, then make, checkinstall.  Install grub to my usb, then remove the new grub package with kpackagekit.  I just want to confirm that this wont overrwite/screwup my current grub installed package.
[19:17] <bajk-tragbar> james147: how do I copy it the best way?
[19:17] <iulian_> hmmm is took me weeks to take my laptop to work before with nvidia g105m and kubuntu 9.04
[19:17] <bajk-tragbar> but well the installer says "Copying almost done.. 77%"
[19:17] <james147> Guest3093: but windows is not a comaptable os.... its most likly that the other pwerson wants a linux baised OS, suggesting windows jsut beacuse they are having some problems is not an accepted answer.... at the very worst suggesting a nother distro might be...
[19:17] <bajk-tragbar> but I think it will crash again when I click next to enter my username and password
[19:18] <bajk-tragbar> james147: YaST is a quite decend installer :P
[19:18] <bajk-tragbar> so, it says Ready when you are, i will click on next
[19:18] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar are u installing using usb?
[19:18] <james147> bajk-tragbar: I would create the partitions yo need then copy the files over, edit /etc/fstab for its new location and chroot into the new root to install grub
[19:18] <bajk-tragbar> ubi-usersetup failed with exit cod 10.
[19:19] <bajk-tragbar> james147: I think I will do this approeacj
[19:19] <james147> bajk-tragbar: (^^ just a stright copy, i would probally use rsync)  you `could` try doing a stright dd, but i am not sure what happens if you try that on a smaller disk :)
[19:20] <bajk-tragbar> there is NOTHING good at this kubuntu installer, nothing, nothing, nothing
[19:20] <james147> bajk-tragbar: although i would test a new user first to comfirm that the problems are not with your system before you wasit your time :)
[19:21] <bajk-tragbar> I want to install it anyway, so ..^^
[19:21] <bajk-tragbar> what is wrong with the installer: it doesnt work with WiFI (doesnt let you specify a password),  it doesnt let you manually change time, you can only specify a time zone, it crashes all the tim
[19:23] <Guest3093> bajk-tragbar model of ur hd?
[19:23] <james147> bajk-tragbar: well i ahve never had it crash on me... so its probally something wierd with your hardware configuration :S
[19:23] <bajk-tragbar> mom
[19:26] <joebob6625> anyone know a good way to set up samba shares for a xbox with xbmc on it
[19:27] <james147> joebob6625: a samba share on the xbox or for it to connect to?
[19:27] <joebob6625> for the xbox to connect to
[19:28] <james147> !samba
[19:28] <joebob6625> cool thanks i will try these
[19:29] <james147> joebob6625: basically install "samba" and configure /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:29] <surex> Hi all.. I have just now installed kubuntu10.10. Now I am trying to build trunk following this link http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian  . Is this sufficient or its better to use kdesrc-build?
[19:29] <james147> there is a gui frontend to configureing samba in kde, but its quite heavy
[19:31] <joebob6625> yeah the kde one i could not get to work i can see all the other comuters on the network but they can not see the kubuntu box
[19:31] <joebob6625> that could be a win 7 thing i dont know i am just starting to look into it
[19:32] <james147> joebob6625: i would learn howto configure samba manually, i find it easier then using the kde interface :p
[19:33] <Randy_T_> I want to install the latest version of grub2(1.99rc1) so that i can install it to a usb, but i dont want to override my current grub2 buntu package(1.98). I'm guessing i could just use a different prefix in ./configure, then make, checkinstall. Install grub to my usb, then remove the new grub package with kpackagekit. I just want to confirm that this wont overrwite/screwup my current grub installed package.
[19:33] <joebob6625> thanks for the links james147 i will try to get it working i am new to the command line but i think i am getting the hang of it it seems to
[19:33] <joebob6625> work better
[19:34] <james147> Randy_T_: you wont beable to install it from kpackagekit
[19:34] <james147> uninstall ^^
[19:34] <Randy_T_> doesn't checkinstall make it show up in the packagemanager?
[19:34] <james147> "make uninstall" form the build dir might...
[19:35] <Randy_T_> thats how it works with other stuff i install
[19:35] <james147> Randy_T_: building from source isent aware of the packagemenegment system... you would need to build a .deb and install taht
[19:35] <james147> ^^ never used checkinstall though
[19:36] <Randy_T_> well i guess worst case scenario woudln't be anything that bad, i'll just do it
[19:36] <james147> ignore what i said :) look like checkinstall will do that sorry
[19:37] <james147> Randy_T_: worst case is you reinstall grub from a livecd
[19:37] <james147> !grub2
[19:37] <t2zhu> hello? This is my first time on irc...
[19:37] <james147> Hello t2zhu
[19:38] <t2zhu> Can I ask questions about my KDE desktop here?
[19:38] <james147> yes
[19:39] <james147> any questions regarding kubuntu then just ask (hell, if they are not then ask them anyway, worst thing that will happen is someone will tell you which chanel you should ask on)
[19:39] <t2zhu> Okay.. Well, I believe my desktop was recently updated to KDE4.6. I can't sleep my computer anymore... Whenever I try to sleep, it wakes back up immediately.
[19:40] <james147> bah, sleep has always been a pain :p
[19:41] <t2zhu> ~.~'
[19:41] <t2zhu> So any idea about what's going on?
[19:44] <yofel> hm, it's obviously stuck somewhere... but I only get that when I don't unmount an NFS mount before suspending...
[19:46] <t2zhu> NFS mount? How do I know if I have one?
[19:47] <james147> t2zhu: then you probally dont :)
[19:48] <t2zhu> Is there any way I can get more information about what's going on? Is there a log file I can look at?
[19:50] <t2zhu> Aah, I have to go...
[19:53] <bajk-tragbar> james147: ah i got the alternate install
[19:53] <bajk-tragbar> on my external hdd since I needed it so make kubuntu run on an usb drive
[19:53] <bajk-tragbar> can I use this iso with that rescue wizard as well to create a bootable usb stickß
[19:54] <james147> i think so though i have never tried
[19:54] <james147> if not unetbootin should be able to
[19:55] <bajk-tragbar> seems to be working
[19:57] <lumos> hey, i'm new to Linux and my normal gui stuff seems to have disappeared, typing startx doesn't gives me the error message: fatal server error: no screens found, is there anything I can do to sort this out?
[19:57] <lumos> doesn't do anything, it gives*
[19:58] <bajk-tragbar> lumos: what do you mean by "normal gui stuff"?
[19:58] <bajk-tragbar> when/does it drop you to the console?
[19:58] <lumos> as soon as i boot up, and i mean my desktop i guess :P
[19:58] <james147> lumos: what graphics card and drivers?
[20:00] <lumos> gtx260
[20:00] <Randy_T_> that happens to me when i use nvidia's install and not the buntu install. heh. i have that card too
[20:00] <bajk-tragbar> james147: ok, the alternate install is working
[20:00] <james147> lumos: ^^ did you do that?
[20:00] <bajk-tragbar> :)
[20:00] <bajk-tragbar> trying with this
[20:01] <james147> bajk-tragbar: :D
[20:01] <iulian_> what resoltion is your screen ?
[20:01] <lumos> It was all working fine earlier :S
[20:01] <james147> lumos: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[20:02] <bajk-tragbar> james147: how do I mark a partition as bootable
[20:02] <bajk-tragbar> ?
[20:02] <bajk-tragbar> there is "Boot flag" option
[20:02] <bajk-tragbar> but pressing enter just results in the dialog disappearing and reappearing and hitting space does nothing
[20:02] <lumos> james147,  yes
[20:02] <bajk-tragbar> bu twll I can do this manually afterwards in the existing kubuntu
[20:02] <james147> bajk-tragbar: not sure, fdisk can do that i think
[20:03] <james147> lumos: try renaminf it so you use the default drivers again
[20:04] <james147> lumos: (then "sudo start kdm" to try to start kdm)
[20:04] <bajk-tragbar> james147: Installing system base :)
[20:05] <lumos> james147, Says it's already running kdm
[20:05] <james147> then "restart" instaead of start
[20:06] <sh1ft3d> can you open a "explorer" window by using a command?
[20:06] <lumos> It runs, but no desktop
[20:06] <james147> sh1ft3d: you mean dolphin? the file browser?
[20:06] <james147> lumos: what happens?
[20:06] <Randy_T_> yea. can just type dolpin in cmd
[20:06] <sh1ft3d> ah
[20:06] <sh1ft3d> alright, thnx
[20:07] <lumos> james147,  It just like..refreshed the screen and said " kdm start/running, process 1491"
[20:07] <james147> sh1ft3d: or alt+f2: dolphin   tio launch it::)
[20:07] <bajk-tragbar_> yeah, internet is working again :)
[20:07] <james147> lumos: press alt+ctrl+F7  ... if not then try aalt+ctrl+F8 .... alt+ctrl+F1 to get back to the terminal
[20:08] <lumos> james147,  it never left the terminal :P
[20:08] <james147> :S afraid i cannt debug that now, as i have to go
[20:08] <lumos> Np, thanks anyway ^^
[20:08] <james147> lumos: althogh someone else might beable to
[20:09] <lumos> james147,  Thanks alot for the help anyway
[20:09] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: is it a clean install or did you fuzz around with drivers/configs or so? :D
[20:09] <lumos> bajk-tragbar,  I probably messed it up somehow as it was working fine earlier, but I have no idea what I did :(
[20:09] <Randy_T_> like. did you let kubuntu install your nvidia drivers or did you download the drivers from nvidia website.
[20:09] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: sorry to ask again, what is your graphics card?
[20:10] <lumos> bajk-tragbar, gtx260
[20:10] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[20:10] <lumos> bajk-tragbar, before it went funny, yep, everything was installed and working fine.
[20:11] <bajk-tragbar_> hm, maybe try deleting/renaming your x config
[20:11] <iulian_> that is screen resolution error
[20:11] <bajk-tragbar_> this should make it fallback to the default auto-detected config
[20:12] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: so did you install them from the webpage or from repositories?
[20:12] <lumos> bajk-tragbar_,  HURRAY, renaming it worked ^^
[20:12] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: :)
[20:12] <lumos> bajk-tragbar_, Thank you :P
[20:13] <bajk-tragbar_> you may now re-configure your config using the nvidia-settings tool
[20:13]  * james147 though he ahs already suggested that :p
[20:13] <bajk-tragbar_> so, remember this: Whenever your graphical environment does not start up, FIRST try removing your xorg.conf this solves 90% of the issues :D
[20:13] <bajk-tragbar_> james147: :)
[20:13] <bajk-tragbar_> james147: I was wondering why you didnt *g*
[20:13] <lumos> xDD Sorry James
[20:13] <lumos> O.o everything seems to be gone...
[20:14] <james147> [20:03:15] <james147> lumos: try renaminf it so you use the default drivers again       :D   fraught will spelling errors
[20:14] <bajk-tragbar_> james147: yay, install complete :) so now I just have to set /dev/sdb bootable and install grub there and then its all set :)
[20:14] <lumos> james147,  Lol, sorry about that, :P
[20:14] <james147> lumos: dont worry :)
[20:14] <lumos> Eerrm, is there some way I accidentally deleted everything on my pc?
[20:14] <lumos> xD
[20:14] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: the main thing is that it is working again :)
[20:15] <lumos> Everything i had installed/downloaded is gone :P
[20:15] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: eh, possibly, fuzzing around with dd makes it easy^^
[20:15] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: eh
[20:15] <james147> lumos: its possible :) though unlikly
[20:15] <bajk-tragbar_> hm
[20:15] <bajk-tragbar_> concerning everything gone.. now all I get is a blinking cursor on startup
[20:15] <lumos> Ouch >.<
[20:15] <james147> lumos: user of system stuff?
[20:16] <lumos> james147, Yep
[20:16] <james147> or ^^
[20:16]  * james147 fails at typing again
[20:16] <lumos> Lol xDD and user
[20:16] <bajk-tragbar_> huh? lol? please, pleas dont tell me the alternate install was Ubuntu not KUbuntu
[20:17] <bajk-tragbar_> ah okay
[20:17] <bajk-tragbar_> just a bug in plymouth splash
[20:17] <bajk-tragbar_> it was purple
[20:17] <Randy_T_> if it says ubuntu durring booting than thats normal
[20:17] <james147> bajk-tragbar_: heh, you can install kubuntu-desktop then uninstall gnome to convert it
[20:17] <bajk-tragbar_> Randy_T_: it used to say Kubuntu with blue background
[20:17] <bajk-tragbar_> even in text mod
[20:18] <bajk-tragbar_> james147: how do I install grub?
[20:18] <bajk-tragbar_> grub-install /dev/sdb ?
[20:18] <bajk-tragbar_> ah, right :D
[20:18] <james147> !grub2
[20:19] <james147> ^^ you need --root-directory=/path/to/mount  to install it with taht drive
[20:19] <lumos> Is there no way I can recover all my deleted/missing stuff? D:
[20:20] <Randy_T_> when i install grub2 to usb i do: grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/usb/mount/path /dev/sdx
[20:21] <bajk-tragbar_> Randy_T_: what is that nofloppy option for?
[20:21] <bajk-tragbar_> lumos: what stuff is gone?
[20:22] <bajk-tragbar_> ah okay
[20:22] <bajk-tragbar_> makes sense, since i dont have a floppy drive
[20:23] <bajk-tragbar_> what the... WT... :O
[20:23] <bajk-tragbar_> i knew SSDs are quick
[20:23] <bajk-tragbar_> but
[20:23] <lumos> bajk-tragbar_, my sister is off my laptop now
[20:23] <bajk-tragbar_> my gosh
[20:23] <FloodBotK3> bajk-tragbar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <Daskreech> lumos: what happened?
[20:24] <Randy_T_> yea. i'd think sdds woudl be much faster for booting. and mabye some apps would open faster. but they r expensive and have limited amount of writes.
[20:25] <Daskreech> Randy_T_: HDDs have a limited amount of drop kicks in them too :)
[20:25] <lumos> Daskreech, my sister was using my laptop but i kicked her off
[20:25] <lumos> Daskreech, she is just going to have a clean start :)
[20:25] <Randy_T_> i'd like to get one just for boot files but. kubuntu has updates almost every other day.
[20:27] <Daskreech> Randy_T_: you are aware you don't have to update  that often?
[20:31] <geras1m> hi
[20:32] <bajk-tragbar_> I knew that SSDs were quick.. but from pressing Enter at GRUB to select the system to the log in screen takes less than a SECOND
[20:36] <Daskreech> hi
[20:41] <geras1m> any recommendations on irc client on ubuntu ? we've recently moved all of office computers to ubuntu and since we use irc a lot.. you get the point..
[20:43] <bajk-tragbar_> geras1m: for kubuntu quassel or konversation
[20:43] <bajk-tragbar_> (but there may be plenty others and better ones^^)
[20:43] <bajk-tragbar_> I think konversation is the official kde irc client
[20:44] <geras1m> yea i'm trying it out as we speak
[20:45] <geras1m> long time ago i've used xchat on a home computer but not sure others will adapt to it.. thanks
[21:04] <Daskreech> geras1m: Konversation is nice once you don't have heavy scripting needs
[21:27] <TheBobber> Hi. How do I recover a damaged dvd or scan a dvd for errors under kubuntu?
[22:01] <francisco_> hi, how to back to kde default?
[22:01] <jonah> hi guys, i wondered if anyone could please help. I have a NAS and I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but I can only transfer files at 1.5mb/s speed, never seem to get any faster than that. is there something in kubuntu that needs setting or changing for faster transfer speeds - i think it uses samba. thanks for help....
[22:02] <francisco_> hi, how to back to kde default?
[22:06] <rethus> on 10.10 kubuntu i have no microphone shown in the pvumeter-panel
[22:07] <rethus> how can i activate it.
[22:08] <dmatt> jonah: what connection to NAS do you use?
[22:10] <jonah> dmatt: well I'm going through wireless router. so the nas is connected via ether net to router and then my laptop/pc connects wirelessly to the router to get access to nas
[22:11] <jonah> dmatt: i did a broadband online speed test and i get over 8mbps so my broadband to router connection is awesome but why can't i get good transfer speeds from nas to pc through router?
[22:12] <dmatt> jonah: wifi is limiting your transfer speed, i have the similar situation here with speed over cable 5 times better
[22:13] <jonah> dmatt: really? but i thought wifi could do 54mbps speed? isn't that what most wifi cards run at?
[22:13] <jonah> dmatt: 1.5mbps seems very very low even for wifi?
[22:14] <dmatt> jonah: that is theoretical maximum, you might get lower connection speed and jamming with other wifi or users nearby
[22:15] <jonah> dmatt: is there any way to optimise it a little higher? also is cat5e the right ethernet cable to use from nas to router?
[22:15] <markit> hi, I've upgraded to 4.6, but I put username/password, screen flashes briefly, and I'm back to login. I've checked and I have kubuntu-desktop and also dbus running, any clue?
[22:15] <dmatt> cat5e is ok
[22:16] <markit> (btw, I had the 4.6 rc before, and worked fine)
[22:20] <Daskreech> markit: check your ~/.xsession-errors file?
[22:21] <markit> I was looking at kdm.log, let me see
[22:22] <dmatt> jonah: maybe there is a way to optimise it over wifi, but i did not find it, I think the problem lies in router
[22:22] <markit> Daskreech: no errors there during the login test (tail -f)
[22:23] <Daskreech> markit: what happens if you login failsafe and run kdeinit4
[22:23] <Daskreech> ?
[22:23] <markit> Daskreech: http://paste.kde.org/3663/
[22:23] <markit> Daskreech: let me try (for failsafe, esc during boot?)
[22:24] <Daskreech> markit: no from KDM choose a failsafe session
[22:24] <markit> Daskreech: I'm back to login again :(
[22:25] <Daskreech> after running kdeinit4 ?
[22:25] <markit> mmm maybe I misinterpreted your instructions
[22:25] <Daskreech> maco: ping. have some time for a DBus error? I'm running out the door
[22:25] <markit> I'm at the graphical login, I selecf "fail safe" and enter username and password
[22:25] <Daskreech> markit: that should give you terminal
[22:25] <markit> then I've the screen flash for a microsecond and I'm at login screen again
[22:26] <Daskreech> markit: Hmm do you know how to get a tty terminal?
[22:26] <markit> Daskreech: no, btw I'm at the terminal with ctrl+alt+f1, but not through failsafe
[22:26] <Daskreech> markit: ok that's at the tty terminal :)
[22:26] <markit> yes, tells display is not found
[22:27] <Daskreech> markit: do you have KDM running?
[22:27] <markit> kdeinit4 aborting: $DISPLAY is not set
[22:27] <markit> yes
[22:27] <markit> in f7console I've the graphical login
[22:27] <Daskreech> markit: ok type this sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[22:27] <Daskreech> that should close X
[22:28] <Daskreech> then type X& on tty1 (alt+ctrl+F1)
[22:28] <Daskreech> That will start Pure X
[22:28] <Daskreech> You'll see a lot of text go by
[22:28] <markit> service kdm status says stop/waiting
[22:28] <markit> but the $DISPLAY error still is there
[22:29] <markit> oh, let me read your last instructions
[22:29] <markit> X& gives me a copletely black screen, no cursor or whatever
[22:29] <Daskreech> markit: correct
[22:29] <Daskreech> markit: back on tty1 type this
[22:30] <Daskreech> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[22:30] <Daskreech> notice the colon
[22:30] <markit> done
[22:31] <Daskreech> markit: type kdeinit4
[22:31] <markit> one long message and a "building ssyscoca4 running"
[22:31] <markit> then $ again
[22:32] <markit> reboot and try login again?
[22:33] <Daskreech> markit: go to alt+ctrl+F7
[22:34] <markit> black screen there
[22:35] <Daskreech> markit: hmm
[22:35] <Daskreech> type xterm& on alt+ctrl+F1
[22:36] <Daskreech> markit: Does it turn up on alt+ctrl+F7 ?
[22:37] <markit> no
[22:37] <markit> maybe in f8
[22:37] <Daskreech> Maybe
[22:37] <markit> (black screen like with f7, but with xterm open)
[22:38] <Daskreech> that's F8 ?
[22:38] <markit> alt+ctrl+f8
[22:38] <Daskreech> Ok mousing over xterm activates it?
[22:39] <Daskreech> i.e. you can type commands in it?
[22:39] <markit> no, seems like I've no cursor
[22:40] <markit> (mouse cursor is absent)
[22:41] <Daskreech> markit: Ha :) not sure how that happened. Ok jump back to tty1 and type kwin&
[22:42] <Daskreech> that should give you alt+tab and so on
[22:43] <markit> ehm, f7 or f8 black
[22:43] <markit> since 4.6rc worked fine, isn't possible that I'm missing some necessary packages? I've kde.-desktop, but maybe some other is missing
[22:44] <markit> btw, I'd better reboot the netbook I think
[22:45] <markit> seems that kdemain does not find DBUS session (see my previous pastebin)
[22:48] <markit> has hal been removed or something odd in packaging?
[22:56] <Daskreech> markit: Don't think so
[22:57] <Daskreech> markit: Yes i saw the dbus error
[22:57] <markit> Daskreech: I've rebooeted, aptitude -f install, removed a ton of xpackages, but I've no solved the problems
[22:57] <markit> I've created a new user, same problem
[22:57] <Daskreech> markit: apt-get install kubutu-desktop
[22:58] <markit> already there
[22:58] <markit> (I use aptitude...)
[22:58] <markit> I've also tried dpkg-reconfigure
[22:58] <markit> or reinstall
[22:59] <markit> in any case is a sort of metapackage, so if dependencies are there, reinstalling it makes no difference
[22:59] <markit> (I've kubuntu-desktop v.1.205)
[22:59] <Daskreech> markit: I know
[23:00] <Daskreech> Jsut checking if something brokw
[23:00] <Daskreech> what does qdbus say?
[23:01] <markit> ehm, I'm rebooting again, wait some seconds
[23:01] <markit> (I ssh in teh netbook, does qdbus run from ssh be ok?)
[23:02] <markit> from ssh: Could not connect to D-Bus server: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[23:07] <Daskreech> markit: Should
[23:08] <Daskreech> dbus as I understand it shouldn't rely on x
[23:10] <Daskreech> markit: I guess dbus-launch by itself works?
[23:12] <markit> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-jyvwOntDda,guid=e517c58392469960301789040000028b
[23:12] <markit> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=1744
[23:12] <markit> $
[23:13] <Daskreech> markit: what does qdbus say now?
[23:13] <markit> Could not connect to D-Bus server: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[23:13] <Daskreech> Hmm
[23:13] <markit> I'm running in ssh, remember
[23:13] <markit> I could try from ctrl+alt+f1
[23:13] <Daskreech> I think qdbus just hasn't been started
[23:14] <markit> (same error from F1)
[23:16] <Daskreech> markit: Sorry I have to go. Perhaps you can ask in #kde ?
[23:16] <markit> Daskreech: thanks a LOT for your time, I will try but seems a kubuntu problem
[23:17] <Daskreech> yeah seems like some package is having issues.
[23:17] <Daskreech> try this from alt+ctrl+F1
[23:18] <Daskreech> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && X& ; export DISPLAY=:0.0 && sleep 3 && (xterm& ; kwin&)&
[23:21] <markit> syntax error near the symbol ;
[23:24] <veluxes> hi im trying to install openjdk6 via get and remove software but it says subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2 ...what do i have to do to fix this?
[23:27] <markit> Daskreech: aptitude reinstall plasma-netbook did the trick
[23:27] <Daskreech> markit: serious ? :(
[23:27] <markit> and switching from failsafe to normal plasmsomething
[23:27] <Daskreech> OH wait it's a netbook!
[23:27] <markit> Daskreech: yes, even if I was NOT using plasma-netbook
[23:27] <Daskreech> >_>
[23:27] <Daskreech> did you hve plasma-desktop ?
[23:27] <markit> I had installed, but not used
[23:28] <markit> (at least, not my user )
[23:28] <Daskreech> markit: What were you using then?
[23:28] <markit> 4.6 seems removed and was trying to use anyway
[23:28] <markit> I use "normal" kde desktop
[23:28] <Daskreech> that's plasma-desktop
[23:28] <veluxes> when i type sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk i get http://paste.kde.org/3667/ and apt-get -f install wont work either
[23:29] <markit> Daskreech: ah, not plasma netbook...
[23:29] <markit> so that package was removed sigh
[23:29] <Daskreech> right
[23:29] <Daskreech> does it work now though?
[23:29] <Daskreech> veluxes: try sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre-headless ?
[23:29] <markit> yes, except from mouse, that seems seriously broken, but probably because of all that xorg remove
[23:30] <Daskreech> markit: you removed xorg?
[23:31] <Daskreech>  I did that once
[23:31] <Daskreech> took out drivers for all the stuff I wouldn't need
[23:31] <Daskreech> (Why does it still ship with trident drivers?)
[23:31] <markit> lol
[23:31] <Daskreech> anyway that broke slowly over a few weeks till I installed everything back
[23:32] <Daskreech> then it went back to peachy
[23:32] <markit> aptitude -f install removed some xorg related packages, but the essential are still there
[23:32] <markit> wondering why mouse seems so sluggysh...
[23:32] <markit> it jumps around when I move
[23:32] <veluxes> returns subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2...same as in the get/remove window
[23:33] <markit> works fine now
[23:33] <Daskreech> that is non sluggish?
[23:33] <markit> Daskreech: no, now fast as normal, maybe netbook was overheating
[23:33] <markit> or something strange... too strange to try to figure out
[23:33] <markit> let's see tomorrow
[23:34] <markit> I've wasted a LOT of time with this issue and I'm tired of troubles, lol
[23:34] <Daskreech> markit: I've hit that before
[23:34] <markit> Daskreech: thanks again for your suggestions and help
[23:34] <Daskreech> :)
[23:34] <Daskreech> Get some rest
[23:35] <markit> the funny thing is that I upgraded to 4.6 before shutdown, and the day after I was talking with someone about software
[23:35] <markit> and I wanted to show him how cool is kde and GNU/Linux
[23:35] <markit> (he is an apple-addicted)
[23:35] <markit> and was unable to login
[23:35] <markit> is so rare that I have to show GNU/Linux to someone ...
[23:36] <markit> and in one of these rare occasions, was broken
[23:36] <markit> I told him I changed the paswrod and I don't remember it, but...
[23:38] <Daughain> Anyone here work with android under 10.10?
[23:39] <Daskreech> markit: :-( yeah part of the fun of Linux means that things won't be perfect
[23:39] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, am here
[23:42] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: Hello. Haveyou installed any applications in Ubuntu?
[23:44] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: ok open the Ubuntu App Center
[23:45] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech,  yes i had install xchat and also i update it from Internet after installation finish.
[23:46] <Daskreech> ok the same way you installed kchat
[23:46] <Daskreech> install KDE
[23:46] <Walzmyn> will KDE 4.6 be coming to Kubuntu 10.04?
[23:48] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech,  i open Synaptic Package Manager  and found KDE Desktop Environment
[23:48] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: You searched for it?
[23:48] <evilmole> make sure it says "kubuntu-desktop"
[23:48] <evilmole> search for kubuntu
[23:48] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: search for kubuntu-desktop
[23:49] <evilmole> not kde
[23:49] <veluxes> i cant even remove openjdk-6-doc
[23:49] <Daskreech> That will setup a subset instead of everything that KDE has
[23:49] <veluxes> which i have for some reason..
[23:50] <evilmole> you must have installed -restricted-extras
[23:50] <FarhanBuriro> found kubuntu-default-settings
[23:50] <FarhanBuriro> Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop
[23:50] <evilmole> veluxes: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:51] <evilmole> (i think)
[23:51] <veluxes> but dont i need this package? or should i uninstall and then reinstall it?
[23:52] <evilmole> i dunno
[23:52] <evilmole> why are you trying to remove or uninstall it
[23:53] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, i found kubuntu-default-settings
[23:53] <FarhanBuriro> Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop
[23:53] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: Hmm no kubuntu-desktop is what you are looking for
[23:55] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, then what to install first KDE or Kubuntu?
[23:55] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: Just Kubuntu. It will get a small portion of KDE
[23:55] <Daskreech> Ideally just what you need
[23:55] <Daskreech>  KDE is huge
[23:56] <veluxes> i cant install it...and i didnt have it...http://paste.kde.org/3670/
[23:57] <veluxes> im actually trying to install openjdk and jre..
[23:58] <BajK_> where do I see how big a ramdrive in ram currently is? I have in KInfocenter Applicatiomn data (42%), hard drive buffer (11%) and hard drive cache (37%) and free (8%) but where is the ramdrive itself?
[23:58] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: There is a faster (geekier) way :)
[23:58] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, i search kubuntu and found too many packages should i install of them?
[23:58] <Daskreech> BajK_: Where is it mounted?
[23:58] <BajK_> Daskreech: /
[23:58] <BajK_> h
[23:58] <BajK_> eh
[23:58] <BajK_> no :D
[23:58] <FloodBotK3> BajK_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: search for kubuntu-desktop
[23:58] <BajK_> the ramdrive is /tmp
[23:58] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: or just look for it in your list
[23:59] <Daskreech> du -sh /tmp
[23:59] <Daskreech> or mount
[23:59] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, found 4 items with kubuntu-desktop
[23:59] <BajK_> Daskreech: thx
[23:59] <BajK_> hm sad that the kinfocenter doesnt show this directly
[23:59] <evilmole> heh