[02:10] <zipper> enry, i havent followed the discussion, but as far as i can tell you have a problem with your connection "dropping" once in a while yes?
[02:10] <enry> when i shutdown through kde
[02:10] <enry> zipper
[02:10] <enry> it doesn't really drop
[02:11] <enry> it's like frozen for some seconds
[02:11] <enry> and then it comes back ok
[02:11] <zipper> enry, if it also happends in windows, you might want to consider trying lowering the MTU on your router. At least that helped for me (dropped it from 1500 to 1300)
[02:11] <zipper> no guarantee that it will work, but i guess its worth a shot
[02:11] <enry> i have a modem
[02:11] <zipper> oh
[02:12] <zipper> hmm, it might have a MTU setting anyway
[02:12] <enry> mtu?
[02:12] <zipper> google
[02:12] <bjwebb> where would there be a list packages on kubuntu feisty default install
[02:12] <jussi01> enry: the reason I suggested the italian channel is you may find someone in there that has the same modem/operator/problem...
[02:12] <enry> i see...
[02:13] <enry> could it be related to ethernet card?
[02:15] <kubuntux> chicco
[02:15] <kubuntux> chre
[02:15] <kubuntux> cvwev
[02:15] <kubuntux> salve
[02:15] <enry> ok, thanks!
[02:15] <kubuntux> a tutti
[02:16] <Jucato> !it | kubuntux
[02:16] <ubotu> kubuntux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:16] <kubuntux> grazie e scusate
[02:23] <tatters> anyone got a centrino b/g card (ipw2200) runnig gusty fails to power up card  "ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out."
[02:24] <xerri> join #ungi
[02:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all  :)
[02:30] <pag> hello BluesKaj :)
[02:30] <BluesKaj> hi pag
[02:30] <BluesKaj> coffee!
[02:32] <owl> moin. coffee? *looking innocently arround* where?
[02:33] <Turazoor> would anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"
[02:33] <sammy> Hallo
[02:34] <sammy> Hat hier jemand ahnung von css
[02:34] <miles> hi
[02:35] <Jucato> !de | sammy
[02:35] <ubotu> sammy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:36] <Turazoor> would anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"
[02:36] <sammy> Test
[02:36] <owl> is there a hidden sense in double-posting?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> !nl
[02:36] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:37] <Turazoor> owl: yeah wen nobody replies to my questions
[02:37] <Turazoor> i've tried in several IRC rooms now, so i'm posting in all of em!
[02:37] <Turazoor> the problem is driving me crazy
[02:37] <owl> ^^
[02:38] <jussi01> Turazoor: if you are being helped in one channel, it is considered rude to ask at the same time in another channel
[02:38] <owl> maybe nobody knows a solution? double-posting won't fix the problem. everyone can read it 10 lines above...
[02:38] <jussi01> owl: to be fair, his last post was 40 mins ago
[02:38] <Turazoor> ok peeps....! I'm sorry just annoyed dat all!
[02:38] <Turazoor> thankyou jussi
[02:38] <jussi01> ;)
[02:39] <owl> jussi01: no? 14:32+14:35
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Turazoor, usb external drive ?
[02:39] <Turazoor> nah wieless
[02:39] <Turazoor> *wireless
[02:39] <jussi01> owl: hehe... i didnt even see that one....look about 40 mins ago...lol
[02:39] <Turazoor> kk peeps so it wasn't 40mins, i'm sorry i shan't do it again!
[02:39] <owl> jussi01: hehehe
[02:40] <Turazoor> kk peeps so it wasn't 40mins, i'm sorry i shan't do it again!
[02:40] <Turazoor> lol
[02:40] <jussi01> lol
[02:40] <Turazoor> ouch
[02:40] <jussi01> !hobbsee | Turazoor
[02:40] <ubotu> Turazoor: I phear the stick so shhhhh
[02:40] <Turazoor> what?
[02:41] <Turazoor> lol is that the room bot?
[02:41] <Jucato> !ubotu | Turazoor
[02:41] <ubotu> Turazoor: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:42] <BluesKaj> uhmm Turazoor , wireless isn't as fast as a normal setup...and expecting it be so is very optimistic
[02:43] <Turazoor> BluesKaj: ei, but my device set itself up and worked in the live cd version without any hassle/well me do anything lol! Now once installed it bugs the system out, how does that make sense
[02:44] <BluesKaj> is the live cddrive wireless like the HDD ?
[02:44] <Turazoor> .....wot?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> nm, obviously I can't understand you
[02:46] <Turazoor> basically, when i plug my USB adpator into the PC using the installed version of ubuntu, it lags out, and becomes very sluggish! however if i use the live cd, there's no lag and it places the wireless usb device on a different bus to the one it is on when it lags
[02:46] <phimic> someone in here who use kubuntu 7.10 with compitz and emerald?
[02:47] <BluesKaj> !compiz | phimic
[02:47] <ubotu> phimic: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:47] <jussi01> hehe
[02:47] <jussi01> beat me to iot
[02:48] <BluesKaj> Turazoor, wirelss usb adaptor ?
[02:49] <Turazoor> yeah
[02:50] <BluesKaj> wireless is much slower transmitting the drive info than a normal, even wired usb drive can be
[02:51] <Turazoor> it's a WI-FI usb network adaptor
[02:52] <Turazoor> lol
[02:52] <BluesKaj> yup, expecting it to have no lag is very optimistic as I said previously
[02:53] <Turazoor> no but the whole system lags out!
[02:53] <Turazoor> like the mouse, the icons, the stuff on screen leaves horrible trails etc
[02:55] <Cyclone_nb> is there a php5 mssql extention for kubuntu?
[02:56] <Turazoor> errr... apache lol!
[02:57] <Cyclone_nb> ?
[02:58] <Turazoor> nm
[02:58] <Turazoor> ...wrong channel
[02:59] <kubuntux> sono riuscito ad installare il modem sul mio portatile
[03:00] <drif> !kubuntu-it | kubuntux
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Turazoor> !peripherals
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peripherals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <kubuntux> ma funziona solo con interfaccia kde   normale?
[03:00] <Jucato> !it | kubuntux
[03:00] <ubotu> kubuntux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:01] <kubuntux> sorry
[03:01] <drif> Jucato: yup :D realised it after I had typed it..
[03:01] <JCDG> so, en verdad usemos solo inlges es mejor para todos, GRACIAS
[03:01] <Jucato> !es | JCDG
[03:01] <ubotu> JCDG: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:02] <zipper> I have 2 soundcards in my pc (both works). How do i select which should be used (for amarok especially)?
[03:02] <JCDG> i was just joking, i0ve already join those channels
[03:02] <zipper> i've been searching the "sound settings", but been unable to find anything
[03:03] <Jucato> :/
[03:06] <blizzz> how can i perform hyphenation in kword? i do net see any menu entry, but a place to make a hook for autmoativ hyphenation. but it did not divide any words..
[03:07] <BluesKaj> Turazoor, your system memory is prolly very busy dealing with heavy wireless traffic the internal HD and all the other devices at once. Run ' top' to see what system processes are using up all your resources
[03:08] <Turazoor> using 7% lol
[03:09] <ubuntu_> I thought of having 2 linux partitions (Kubuntu and the other one for testing different distros). If I make one swap partition, do both of the distros automatically use it, or is it reserved for just one?
[03:09] <hydrogen> both can use it
[03:10] <ubuntu_> Alright thanks. :)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , but you're on live cd , run top with the external HDD
[03:12] <BluesKaj> well you run ine distro at atime so why have 2 swaps ?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> one
[03:13] <BluesKaj> now my ssytem is lagging  :)
[03:18] <Angelus> who you talkin to BluesKaj?
[03:18] <Angelus> lol
[03:19] <job424> Is there a method for support in this room, or just ask questions?
[03:19] <BluesKaj> everyone Angelus
[03:19] <BluesKaj> !ask
[03:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question.  Dr Suess here, eh?
[03:22] <job424> Okay, in that case.... I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 and having wireless issues.
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !wireless | job424
[03:22] <ubotu> job424: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:22] <job424> I go to load the networks listed, and it shows the adapter as disabled... I go to re-enable it, and it just disables again... nothing worls
[03:22] <job424> ah
[03:24] <dr_Willis> Right now i got an issue with ktorrent (i think) i can get 99.90% of a torrent - but it WONT get that last little bit.
[03:25] <dr_Willis> I saw a similer issue MONTHS ago. but it got fixed.. the bug has reappeared?
[03:25] <dwidmann_> hydrogen: sounds like a wonderful procedure, so brilliant that I wish I had thought of it myself :D
[03:25] <pag> dr_Willis, are you sure that the issue isn't with that specific torrent?
[03:25] <dr_Willis> pag,  been doing it with 2 torrents now.
[03:25] <Jucato> genii: it's coffee now eh? :)
[03:25] <dr_Willis> both stopped at 99.90 %
[03:26] <dr_Willis> well they dident Stop.. they are still trying to download.
[03:26] <dwidmann_> genii: switched back from beer?
[03:26] <genii> Jucato: At work, it's coffee
[03:26] <Jucato> hhehe
[03:26] <dr_Willis> at .01 k/s and they keepo getting a reset message
[03:26] <genii> dwidmann: See above :)
[03:26] <dr_Willis> Tryin ga differnet torrent client now to 'prove' its a ktorrent issue
[03:26] <BluesKaj> dr_Willis, you got one of those locked torrents that uses you as a server ...i had one that went on for days and it wouldn't finish up , the file was 700mb but i seeded about 4gig before i realized what was going on
[03:27] <dwidmann_> BluesKaj: I envy your internet connection
[03:27] <dr_Willis> BluesKaj,  Huh? 2 in a row tho? and the files are not done.  still missing one 'block' or whatever it is.
[03:27] <BluesKaj> BTW it was also corrupted
[03:27] <dr_Willis> Its possible this one is currupted. :) never can tell
[03:27] <dr_Willis> gotta love split up rars' that contain 100+ zip files
[03:28] <BluesKaj> dwidmann , I wasn't paying much attn at the time :)
[03:28] <Biovore> ^ check the check sum
[03:28] <dwidmann> Now for the big decision, whether to stay on on my laptop or my desktop :s
[03:29] <genii> *answer
[03:29] <genii> I must need more coffee
[03:29] <BluesKaj> dwidmann , my net connection is 550kbs down in real numbers and 300kbs up ..supposedly ultra hi-speed ADSL
[03:29] <dwidmann> laptop it is
[03:30] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: that's fantastic upspeed, and still very good download speed.
[03:31] <dwidmann> I'm more like 100kbs down, 2kbs up, and I get FAPd after about 120-150mb
[03:31] <SlimeyPete> eh? those are terrible speeds
[03:31] <Chousuke> if it's kbs it's not very fantastic, so I'm assuming you mean kBs?
[03:31] <BluesKaj> beats the dialup I had back in '99 when that's all that was available :)
[03:31] <drif> Chousuke: my thoughts exactly..
[03:31] <genii> BluesKaj: Nothing like trying to download an iso over 14.4 modem connection
[03:31] <dwidmann> so wait, yes, definitely answer Chousuke's question BluesKaj, that'd clear something up.
[03:31] <Chousuke> if it's kbs then it's about equivalent to the lowest speed ADSL available here :P
[03:32] <egon> hello, 1 question i guess that kde 4 beta 2 sould release on 27th aug but now it is the 30th aug and i cant see anything like kde 4 beta 2 ... wath happend?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, well i'm paying $50/mos for it
[03:32] <dwidmann> genii: I've done that before, fun times.
[03:32] <egon> xD
[03:32] <drif> Chousuke: they made those connections illegal here.. ;)
[03:32] <Jucato> egon: patience is a virtue :)
[03:32] <genii> dwidmann: Me too :)
[03:32] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: and mine is crappier yet I pay $60/month :( One thing that sucks about living 5 miles out of town.
[03:32] <Chousuke> drif: illegal? :|
[03:32] <Chousuke> uhh.
[03:32] <Chousuke> wtf
[03:33] <egon> Jucato: i know but im so exited about it :D
[03:33] <Jucato> egon: there might be some delays, so best not to wait too much :)
[03:33] <drif> Chousuke: well, operators can't sell so low quality services  :D don't take anything so literally
[03:33] <ksivaji> !info gtk
[03:33] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:33] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: seriously, tell me, is this a 0.5Mbps or a 5Mbps connection :P
[03:33] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, i live in a small town of 5500 ppl , but we have most services that much larger centers have .
[03:33] <ksivaji> !gtk
[03:33] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:33] <Chousuke> because 5Mbps is pretty fast, while 0.5Mbps is slow as hell.
[03:34] <dwidmann> I used to have a 5.5MBs connection. I miss those days :(
[03:34] <egon> Jucato: so do you mean it may come Tomorrow?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> Chousuke, real world is 550 kbs , adverted at 5mbs ...different calcs tho , I think
[03:35] <Jucato> egon: it may or it may not. the schedule is for "tagging", not for "release"
[03:35] <egon> Im so excited!!! xD
[03:35] <Jucato> two different things
[03:35] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: What you need to specify is bits or bytes
[03:35] <egon> Jucato: k thx for infomation :D
[03:35] <Jucato> egon: there might be a deloy for the actual release itself, so try to calm down just a bit more :)
[03:35] <BluesKaj> yea the 5mbs is bits methinks
[03:35] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: 5Mbps (megabits per second) would be ~550 megabytes per second
[03:35] <Jucato> actual stable 4.0 release
[03:36] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: what they advertise in is kbps/mbps, what you look at when downloading someting is KBs/MBs
[03:36] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: kilobytes ;p
[03:36] <egon> Jucato: k i try to but i would be hard xD
[03:36] <Chousuke> SlimeyPete: riight
[03:36] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: well, then it's quite speedy. :)
[03:36] <egon> it will xD
[03:36] <Jucato> heh
[03:36] <egon> ( gramma xD )
[03:36] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, yeah I'm aware of that
[03:36] <Chousuke> 550 megabytes per second would be fun
[03:36] <Jucato> egon: if you really can't wait and willing to take the risks and pains, just compile it all :P
[03:36] <drif> rather
[03:36] <dwidmann> I don't get why exactly they do that, must be the bigger number :(
[03:36] <Chousuke> you'd need 10Gbps ethernet and *fast* hard drives.
[03:37] <Chousuke> or loads and loads of RAM
[03:37] <BluesKaj> I live about 500meters from the switch , which helps
[03:37] <SlimeyPete> dwidmann: that's exactly it.
[03:37] <drif> BluesKaj: not soo speedy then, but atleast upspeed is decent, mine is the bottleneck :-\ 8/1Mbps
[03:37] <egon> Jucato: xD nono that to much work for me im Putridly
[03:37] <dwidmann> They like to sell big numbers ... I can only imagine what Intel went through with some of their less educated customers when they switched to the Core Duos & Cure 2 Duos
[03:37] <Chousuke> heh
[03:37] <Chousuke> <3 Core2Duo
[03:38] <dwidmann> Yes
[03:38] <dwidmann> That
[03:38] <egon> MouldMouldMouldMouldMouldMould
[03:38] <egon> xD
[03:38] <Chousuke> AMD needs to one-up intel again so they'll make even better processors.
[03:38] <dwidmann> My fingers are dyslexic and they don't speel terribbbly weell.
[03:38] <dr_Willis> Chousuke,  yep. gotta love the leapfrogging cpu makers.
[03:39] <dr_Willis> I cant even keep todays cpu's straight...
[03:39] <Chousuke> At least we have two of them, kicking each other in the behind. :P
[03:39] <dr_Willis> the quad core s seem a bit slower..but would they be worth the extra cost.. and so forth.
[03:39] <Ace2016> omg i just found the best thing ever, xgl + ut2004 gives rendering problems!!!
[03:40] <dr_Willis> dont even get me started on the HUGE mess of nvidia cards/chips/makes now in video cards.
[03:40] <dwidmann> Ace2016: sounds fantastic
[03:40] <Ace2016> everything is very dark apart from players and lights and some textures, and you can shoot the enemy from far away, i got kicked fo spawn killing!!! :D
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> xgl + opengl gives rendering problems ;)
[03:40] <Chousuke> Ace2016: :P
[03:40] <Ace2016> you can see everyone very clearly
[03:40] <Ace2016> but framerate sucks
[03:40] <job424> Okay, I'm back... and I couldnt find a single bit of information in relevance to *MY* wireless issue
[03:40] <Chousuke> that's unintentional cheating I suppose.
[03:40] <Ace2016> yea but its great
[03:41] <Chousuke> though xgl having rendering trouble isn't exactly news.
[03:41] <dwidmann> Kind of like the turbo button deal of the past?
[03:42] <dr_Willis> dwidmann,  a friend at work some how got "EverQuest1" to go in to turbo mode by starting the game on his laptop, on battery power.. (thus the cpu was slower) Then pluigging it into the outlet.
[03:42] <dwidmann> How to spell xgl: t-r-o-u-b-l-e
[03:42] <Chousuke> dwidmann: the turbo button was great! My friend overclocked his Pentium to 999MHz with it!
[03:42] <dr_Willis> The game then speed up the clock, and his mana regen and so forth skyrocketd.
[03:43] <Chousuke> (if you held the button for long enough, the MHz would never stop increasing)
[03:43] <dwidmann> dr_Willis: interesting
[03:43] <dwidmann> Chousuke: That's insanely fast for a P1 :O
[03:43] <drif> Chousuke: you mean just tweaked the actual numbers on panel? ;)
[03:43] <Chousuke> drif: yeah ;P
[03:43] <dr_Willis> Ok.. letting another torrent client try my torrent.
[03:43] <Chousuke> but hey, it was an LCD panel!
[03:43] <Chousuke> and it said "999"
[03:43] <drif> so it must be true.
[03:44] <Chousuke> yes.
[03:44] <drif> everything written is solid
[03:44] <dr_Willis> turn the lcd upside down = evil pc. ;)
[03:44] <dwidmann> But of course, the things we read would never lie to us.
[03:44] <Chousuke> drif: everything written on lcd displays
[03:44] <Chousuke> drif: my old powerbook ran at 666MHz in power saving mode. :)
[03:44] <drif> Chousuke: especially those - and for some people maybe occasionally found carved on rocks
[03:45] <job424> Can anyone assist me with that issue?
[03:45] <drif> Chousuke: I smell #offtopic :D
[03:45] <dwidmann> job424: sure thing
[03:45] <job424> I was referred to the wireless community pages
[03:46] <Chousuke> drif: true.
[03:46] <job424> and didnt find any information on the problem I'm having
[03:46] <dwidmann> /j #kubuntu-offtopic dr_Willis dwidmann Chousuke drif :)
[03:46] <job424> and have been searching for 2 days
[03:46] <BluesKaj> job424, broadcom ?
[03:46] <job424> ack... i want to say so... let me check to be 100% sure
[03:46] <job424> its a gateway lappy
[03:46] <drif> dwidmann: interesting way of 'telling' yourself to join as well :D
[03:47] <dwidmann> drif: I found it amusing anyhow
[03:47] <dr_Willis> Is it offtopic to say theres a Cricket in my computer room on a shelf right next to me..making LOUD chirping noises? :)
[03:48] <dr_Willis> Gotta find him and.. remove him. BRB.
[03:48] <job424> Yes, broadcom I believe
[03:48] <job424> Right now I pull up the KNetworkManager... do the manual configuration...
[03:48] <job424> and it shows the eth0 (wired) as enabled, and the eth1 (wireless) as disabled
[03:48] <BluesKaj> job424, there ppl here who can help if you tell us which wireless card your laptop has
[03:49] <job424> I just did above, Broadcom
[03:49] <venik> Why do programs disappear all of a sudden, spontaneously?  Basket (Notes utility) has disappeared several times...
[03:49] <job424> then when I go to re-enable the wireless... it just disables instantly again
[03:50] <BluesKaj> oh sorry , was typing and not reading at the same time ...terrible habit to have :)
[03:50] <job424> :)
[03:50] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[03:51] <dr_Willis> well my Ktorrent Issues seem to be ktorrent related. The torrent is finishing in Deluge.
[03:51] <dr_Willis> Still not sure how to report the bug.   Or if it was really a bug.
[03:51] <dr_Willis> could of been some tracker/seeders being dumb.
[03:52] <drif> dr_Willis: I've noticed those as well
[03:52] <dwidmann> job424: sudo lshw -class network
[03:52] <drif> dr_Willis: need to finish the last percentages (sometimes) with another client
[03:52] <dr_Willis> drif,  yep. Bingo.
[03:53] <job424> Yes, 100% broadcom adapter :)
[03:53] <dr_Willis> drif,  had similer issue ages ago.. then it was fixed.. now its back
[03:53] <drif> dr_Willis: which version are you using?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[03:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:54] <dr_Willis> 2.2.1 i think. got deluge going at themoment.
[03:54] <job424> yeah, we've establihed that ubotu... didnt help
[03:54] <job424> They were working on actualy helping me.
[03:54] <BluesKaj> c'mon you wireless experts .. job424 needs help !
[03:54] <dr_Willis> !bot
[03:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:55] <job424> yeah... ps i'm kubuntu illiterate :D
[03:55] <job424> *everyone runs out of the room*
[03:56] <BluesKaj> <---knows dick about wireless ...I'm old school , I beleive in wired conns
[03:56] <job424> I would wire it, but the woman wont want a 50 foot wire in the house.
[03:56] <job424> hell, theres already a 100 ft cat6 in the attic from an abandoned project.. haha
[03:56] <drif> dr_Willis: would you recommend it?
[03:56] <dwidmann>  BluesKaj: if you get a laptop that will change
[03:57] <Jucato> anyone here familiar with Add/Remove Programs (Adept Installer)?
[03:58] <Jucato> just wondering if anyone knew under what name build-essential would be there
[03:58] <SlimeyPete> it's just called "build-essential"
[03:58] <BluesKaj> i have 50 ft of cat 5 running under the floor from router on wifes pc to this one
[03:58] <dr_Willis> ive hjad very few issues with ktorrent, other then this hanging at the last % bug.
[03:58] <Murlis> howdy!
[03:58] <BluesKaj> I could move the router but this setup works ok
[03:58] <drif> dr_Willis: which is quite annoying one..
[03:59] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: maybe in adept manager, but not in Add/remove programs
[03:59] <Murlis> Guess whos back :)
[03:59] <drif> Jucato: why stick with add/remove :-\
[03:59] <Murlis> I still have problem with that freebsd drive under Ubuntu...
[03:59] <Jucato> drif: because I'm trying to sort of confirm a "bug" :)
[03:59] <drif> Jucato: ah, got ya
[03:59] <Jucato> or rather, confirm an undesirable behavior
[03:59] <Murlis> But I have another question, easier I hope
[04:00] <dr_Willis> Yea. My torrent is Done, :)
[04:00] <dwidmann> now to pause that upgrade again lest I want to get FAPd :(
[04:00] <Murlis> I have folder that is shared to windows users via samba and I also need rw access to that folder via ftp for authorised users
[04:01] <dranas> good morning
[04:01] <Murlis> samba is configured that all local network machines have access, no user/pass
[04:01] <Murlis> and then changed files or new files belong to nobody
[04:02] <Murlis> but then users from ftp (one user) can't change nor delete the file
[04:02] <dwidmann> morning dranas
[04:02] <Murlis> how should I configure the folder permissions or samba or ftp so that everybody has rw access?
[04:03] <dr_Willis> for samba its one way. :) for ftp its not the same I think
[04:03] <dr_Willis> that 'samba doc' package has the using samba book  in it- that has examples of a public share.
[04:03] <dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    19 2007-07-12 17:44 Public -> /media/sda1/Public/
[04:03] <dr_Willis> is my Public samba dir.
[04:04] <dr_Willis> but i dont think i got it working where ANYONE can get in with no name/password
[04:04] <dr_Willis> theusers have tohave an account
[04:04] <Murlis> so then windows users will receive password promt upon opening share?
[04:05] <dr_Willis> Yes they do. Well actually windows uses their xp password by de4fault IU think. so it uses that - so they never see a requestor.
[04:05] <dr_Willis> but somt times it gets confused.
[04:05] <Murlis> so then I will create user accounts on ubuntu for users, add them to one group and add ftp user to the same group?
[04:05] <dr_Willis> I set up windows users/liunux users/passwords identical on my lan.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> I just set a smbpasswd -a USERNAME for each windows users i want to access the shares. (and make them a linux account also)
[04:06] <Murlis> ok, I see
[04:06] <dr_Willis> I dont use ftp.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> SSH is much better for my needs. :)
[04:06] <owl> ssh? sftp?
[04:06] <job424> okay.. well let me ask a question then about the issue...
[04:06] <Murlis> what's the difference?
[04:06] <job424> http://i-eat-noobs.blogspot.com/2007/08/get-wireless-working-in-ubuntu-704.html
[04:07] <drif> dr_Willis: with smaller files it's ok - but large quantities - not really
[04:07] <dwidmann> ssh = a secure shell, things can also be tunneled through it
[04:07] <dwidmann> !ssh
[04:07] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:07] <job424> On this page, it says "place them in the same folder, and run the commands from the terminal server"
[04:07] <job424> what folder should they be in?
[04:08] <dr_Willis> drif,  vista has been such a pain. I use winscp and ssh on it . over samba. :) silly vista
[04:08] <drif> dr_Willis: I haven't had a single encounter with vista ;) and proud of it
[04:08] <Murlis> dr_Willis thank you! I will try your suggestion!
[04:08] <dr_Willis> drif,  i fixed vista on the wifes laptop ... by instlling xp.
[04:08] <job424> "requested operation requires superuser privlege" ?????
[04:08] <dr_Willis> WIndows 95 booted on her laptop - then crashed on installing drivers.
[04:09] <dr_Willis> job424,  sounds like a root needing task. use sudo, or gksu, or kdesu
[04:09] <owl> wtf are you doing with your wifes' laptop?
[04:09] <drif> job424: sudo yourcommandwhichfailshere
[04:09] <dr_Willis> owl,  makingit work at a useable speed for her. Vista + 512ram = bad.
[04:09] <dwidmann> "yes | sudo apt-get install openssh-server", life made easy :)
[04:09] <dr_Willis> owl,  so in went a new clean hd + xp on it.
[04:10] <owl> *cough* but win 95?
[04:10] <job424> sudo dpkg
[04:10] <Datradan> Hi!
[04:10] <owl> hi *
[04:10] <dwidmann> dr_willis: or in gutsy, kdesudo :)
[04:10] <Datradan> i'm new on this channel :-)
[04:10] <dr_Willis> owl,  she just plays solitare and web surfes on it.
[04:10] <owl> *sigh*
[04:10] <Datradan> sorry for my eghlish+
[04:10] <dwidmann> Datradan: hi
[04:10] <job424> i mean.... sudo dpkg -i --force-depends nsdisgtk_*.deb
[04:10] <dr_Willis> owl,  a big new $350 laptop. :) it was on sale.
[04:10] <drif> dr_Willis: yeah, I refused to buy laptop to my mother - all of'em bundled with vista these days :D so I gave her mine which had oem xp
[04:10] <Datradan> but i've hidden the menu bar in konqueror and now i can't restore it XD
[04:11] <dranas> oi i just upgraded from dapper to edgy, and it seems adept has vanished
[04:11] <owl> dr_Willis: yeah... might you want give me the laptop of your wife? :)
[04:11] <dwidmann> drif: http://www.dell.com/open
[04:11] <dwidmann> drif: http://www.system76.com
[04:11] <dwidmann> Not all;)
[04:11] <Datradan> nobody can help me?
[04:11] <owl> dr_Willis: oeeeeeeeeeeeh. no, thx, i don't need a wife, but a laptop :)
[04:12] <rustalot> how do I upgrade to gutsy tribe 5?
[04:12] <drif> dwidmann: true, but using some linux derivate wouldn't be wise - I'm living too far away if vnc/network fails and then no one locally couldn't help her out
[04:12] <dwidmann> Datradan: ctrl + m
[04:13] <radioaktivstorm> hello, ubuntu's pretty busy. maybe you all can help. I cannot connect to open networks using my linux. i can connect to ones ive been on before. but for example it will see the free wireless at the airport.. but it will not connect to them it gets partway through and then quits... suggestions?
[04:13] <owl> .oO( radioaktivstorm ?! strange nicknames... )
[04:14] <rafal__> g
[04:14] <aguitel> anyone helpme ?
[04:14] <Datradan> thanks now i try
[04:15] <dwidmann> radioaktivstorm: ever since I upgraded (partially) to gutsy I don't even get that much, the wireless section has disappeared from my knetworkmanager :(
[04:15] <dranas> oh wow it uninstalled adept
[04:15] <GuyFromHell> any way to get the system try icon thingies that didn't properly load into the system tray thingie to dock in there afterwords?
[04:15] <drif> people using their kubuntu for music/midi/audio production here?
[04:15] <radioaktivstorm> owl, it doesnt ever need a number on the webs when i feel like using it :P
[04:15] <radioaktivstorm> dwidmann ouch :( thats not cool at all
[04:16] <GuyFromHell> nevermind... reloading... compiz.... fixed it
[04:16] <dwidmann> radioaktivstorm: much to my dismay I've now turned off wpa on my router and I'm connecting manually ...
[04:16] <blekos> hi, anyone could tell me how to upgrade to gutsy from command line?
[04:17] <dranas> yes
[04:17] <drif> and if I install ubuntustudio - am I under wrath of gnome? :-\
[04:17] <dr_Willis> !upgrade
[04:17] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:17] <Jucato> blekos: manually change all "feisty" to "gutsy" in /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:17] <dr_Willis> Yea.. what he said. :)
[04:18] <Jucato> dr_Willis: although he did say "to gutsy"....
[04:18] <dwidmann> blekos: sudo sed s/feisty/gutsy/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:18] <Jucato> :)
[04:18] <blekos> ok thx
[04:18] <dwidmann> drat, beaten to it
[04:18] <dranas> use sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the shell to edit it
[04:18] <Jucato> dwidmann: dist-upgrade :)
[04:18] <Jucato> dranas: in the shell? how can he run kate? :)
[04:18] <dwidmann> Jucato: magic?
[04:18] <Jucato> imagemagick or graphicsmagick? :)
[04:18] <blekos> what does sed s does?
[04:18] <dranas> ipen up konsole and try it youll see
[04:19] <dranas> open*
[04:19] <blekos> just to know
[04:19] <dranas> otherwise it wont let you save
[04:19] <radioaktivstorm> drif, im sure you can install the kde packages if you want them on ubuntu studio
[04:19] <Jucato> dranas: he's on the command line, right? so presuming he doesn'thave GUI running
[04:19] <dwidmann> blekos: search and replace all instances of feisty with gutsy :)
[04:19] <blekos> kool, i must write it down :)
[04:19] <dwidmann> be back in 5
[04:19] <dranas> i really dont think hes on the command line right now
[04:19] <Jucato> blekos: sed - filter and transform text, basically search and replace
[04:20] <Jucato> dranas: not right now. but his question implies that when he makes the upgrade he would be
[04:20] <Jucato> also
[04:20] <Jucato> !kdesu | dranas
[04:20] <ubotu> dranas: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:20] <dranas> or perhaps hes just gonna open a terminal and type the command in
[04:21] <Jucato> if you say so
[04:22] <radioaktivstorm> ooo good info ubotu. ill remember that one for the kde apps
[04:22] <dranas> thats funny it uninstalled adept
[04:22] <radioaktivstorm> :P
[04:22] <genii> *coffee
[04:22] <owl> thx genii :)
[04:22] <genii> owl: np :)
[04:23] <radioaktivstorm> using this windows is killing me >_< so slow... so unresponsive.
[04:23] <blekos> s is for subtitue and i?
[04:24] <stephane> join #ungi_cgt
[04:24] <The_Machine> anyone have this problem with Krdc where it just says "Establishing connection" and hangs there?
[04:24] <Jucato> blekos: man:/sed in konqueror to find out
[04:24] <Jucato> or man sed in konsole
[04:25] <sebbar> hi, I remember there was a package to have video previews in konqueror, can anybody tell me what its name was? tnx
[04:25] <radioaktivstorm> you can read the man graphically in konqueror O_O
[04:25] <radioaktivstorm> awesome.
[04:25] <blekos> ok thnx
[04:25] <Jucato> radioaktivstorm: man:/ and info:/
[04:26] <Jucato> there's also a special apt:/ in Kubuntu (only)
[04:27] <radioaktivstorm> Jucato: very interesting.... konqueror is more powerful than i thought. i was impressed by the ftp and sftp and stuff... but wow. thanks for the info :D
[04:27] <dwidmann> blekos: i for "in place"
[04:27] <blekos> thank u
[04:28] <Jucato> radioaktivstorm: system:/ applications:/ sftp:/ fish:/
[04:29] <dwidmann> radioaktivstorm: pull up khelp, look at the "KIO Slaves section" for a more or less complete list of those
[04:29] <Jucato> of course, SUSE has another very useful one, sysinfo:/
[04:30] <dwidmann> Jucato: yeah, that one did look pretty nice, can't you get it off of kde-apps.org though?
[04:30] <Jucato> you can I think. someone made a kubuntu package
[04:30] <dranas> im going back to sleep good....umm...morning i guess
[04:31] <Jucato> sebbar: libarts1-xine
[04:31] <dwidmann> I wish I could go back to sleep :(
[04:31] <Jucato> I wish I could sleep early
[04:31] <radioaktivstorm> thanks Jucato, dwidmann :)  still need to get the wifi up and running so i can connect to the internet :\
[04:32] <Jucato> aw...
[04:32] <underdog5004> genii, darn it, I recompiled with all the default options, but I still screwed up cron...it fails to load.bleagh
[04:32] <radioaktivstorm> wifi works.. but only on the nets that i have configured... not open ones.... starbucks airports etc etc etc no wifi :(
[04:33] <genii> underdog5004: Thats bizarre
[04:33] <underdog5004> yeah, I know
[04:33] <underdog5004> when I do sudo /etc/init.d/cron start, it says [fail]
[04:34] <dwidmann> underdog5004: if cron is giving you trouble, perhaps anacron will work?
[04:35] <underdog5004> dwidmann, it may work, but it's just not worth my time
[04:35] <underdog5004> I'll just reinstall the old kernel I haed
[04:35] <turazoor> hi all,
[04:35] <ubuntu> hi
[04:36] <underdog5004> actually, instead of rolling back that far, I'm gonna try out the -lowlatency build that's in the repos
[04:36] <turazoor> .... anyone know why whilst on the live cd for Kubuntu 7.04, my wireless network usb adaptor works, but when i install kubuntu why it glitches and slows the system
[04:36] <snowdonkey> Hey, can someone tell me how to access Power Management options in Dapper? Like here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowerManagementFeedback  I can only find the laptop power configuration
[04:39] <flake> how do I check to see if my modem is working, it's not in the kde/settings/periphereal menu
[04:39] <turazoor> it has something to do with the Bus
[04:39] <turazoor> anyone know how i can change these Buses?
[04:40] <turazoor> grrr
[04:40] <turazoor> lol
[04:43] <Mr_Sonoma> turazoor, you were looking for me earlier?
[04:43] <dwidmann> turazoor: try checking your /var/log/syslog file, it may give you some hints that someone more experienced may be able to decipher (or that you can google :) )
[04:45] <dwidmann> flake: well, if it's a modem, to see if it's working, just connect to and/or use the net? I would imagine ...
[04:45] <bbeck_> I use AIM through Kopete, and I've noticed that for the past week or so, I'll just get dropped off the AIM network after long periods of inactivity, and when I want to get back on I have to exit Kopete wait a couple minutes then start Kopete back up before I can connect.  Has anyone else noticed this issue?
[04:45] <flake> umm.. i have broadband
[04:45] <flake> want to fax
[04:46] <flake> it's not configured in networking option
[04:46] <dwidmann> attempt to fax?
[04:46] <dwidmann> flake: to see if linux sees it, you can use the command "sudo lspci -v"
[04:46] <dwidmann> or perhaps "sudo lshw"
[04:47] <flake> us robotics unknown device, Communication Controller
[04:48] <flake> unclaimed communication controller
[04:51] <dwidmann> Wow! Setting up openssh-server and using fish:/ in konqueror is 100x easier than trying to use samba or nfs!
[04:51] <Jucato> you could also use sftp:/
[04:51] <Jucato> :)
[04:51] <dwidmann> Jucato: how much setup does that requiree?
[04:51] <radioaktivstorm> oh hey, why cannot i use file transfer in kopete under aim?
[04:52] <Jucato> dwidmann: nothing
[04:52] <underdog5004> genii, I just installed the -lowlatency kernel, and cron is still messed up
[04:52] <dwidmann> (openssh required me to install the package, and I was good to go ... I was really impressed after trying to force samba and nfs to work ...)
[04:52] <underdog5004> I'm going for a reinstall
[04:52] <dwidmann> (samba used to work well, then feisty came along)
[04:52] <genii> hmm
[04:53] <Mr_Sonoma> lol i thought i was the only one that went about blind setting up samba
[04:53] <jucato-kubu> oh....
[04:53] <bbeck_> radioaktivstorm: file transfer isn't supported for AIM in Kopete yet.
[04:53] <radioaktivstorm> bbeck_ oh.
[04:53] <TonserPerson> hello :)
[04:53] <jucato-kubu> dwidmann: just install openssh-server on the machine that will run the ssh daemon, then on the client machine, just sftp:/ to the server
[04:53] <dwidmann> !adeptfix | dwidmann
[04:54] <TonserPerson> i get an error when i try to boot the Kubuntu install CD with my mouse plugged in
[04:54] <TonserPerson> and it seems like i cant start the installer with my keyboard
[04:55] <TonserPerson> what to do?
[04:55] <dwidmann> jucato-kubu: come to think of it, I should probably also get rid of nfs and samba to close a few security holes .. oh, and what differences will I see between using fish and using sftp?
[04:55] <jucato-kubu> hehe I always forget the answer to that
[04:56] <jucato-kubu> but afaik, sftp is much safer and fish relies on perl hacks
[04:56] <dwidmann> hmm, what's safer about it, you've aroused my curiosity :)
[04:57] <jucato-kubu> SFTP is a Secure file transfer protocol. sftp is an interactive file transfer program, similar to ftp, but it performs all operations over an encrypted ssh transport. It may use many of the features of ssh, including public key authentication and compression.
[04:57] <tim__> hello, I need to find which proccess (ID) is using a file, so I can kill that proccess. is there a command?
[04:57] <jucato-kubu> dwidmann: there are some descriptions in KHelpCenter
[04:59] <TonserPerson> can anyone help me?
[04:59] <bbeck_> tim__: try using lsof
[05:00] <tim__> tnks
[05:01] <lnx_> how i cam make the the tasks in the taskbar to have borders and not to fade  ?
[05:04] <venik> Why do programs disappear all of a sudden, spontaneously?  Basket (Notes utility) has disappeared several times...
[05:04] <arash> venik,  eh, is this happening all the time or just happens this sesson?
[05:04] <venik> It happened several times
[05:05] <venik> with this program
[05:05] <dwidmann> Jucato: I don't really see it saying anywhere in there either comparing the two or their security :\ (just read both help pages, and the sftp man page)
[05:05] <arash> venik, is it just basket?
[05:05] <venik> It did happen with other programs, but only with basket more than once
[05:06] <venik> when I re-installed Basket, it still had all the notes I stored in it
[05:06] <arash> hmmm, do you think it can be crashes (I'm actually noob :p, so I have no idea)
[05:06] <Jucato> dwidmann: sorry couldn't give you anymore info. but I've read/heard that somewhere before
[05:06] <arash> venik, yea, you have to remove it's application data from your home folder
[05:07] <venik> No-- I was grateful that it did not lose the data-- I nned these data!
[05:07] <venik> need even
[05:08] <philipp__> hi
[05:08] <dwidmann> Jucato: I guess this is as good a time to stress test my new wireless network as ever eh? (copying back and forth between my desktop and my laptop)
[05:09] <dwidmann> (only 13 gb :D)
[05:09] <Jucato> ok. you use fish. i'm using sftp
[05:09] <Jucato> heheh half that size :)
[05:09] <Jucato> no wait, 10GB after all hahah
[05:09] <dwidmann> I'm using sftp atm, I'm going to take your word for it until I find out more, seems to work the same anyhow.
[05:10] <dwidmann> crap, I'm only getting 1.2MB/s
[05:10] <dwidmann> I wonder if that's related to the problems I've had since the last reboot most likely regarding my partial upgrade to gutsy.
[05:10] <SlimeyPete> transferring files over ssh = slow
[05:11] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: that's true too.
[05:11] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: though both computers are quite fast and should be able to handle the encryption relatively well
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> dwidmann: I've never got better than 1.3mbytes/sec using ssh, even on fast computers.
[05:12] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: I see
[05:12] <Jucato> I have 1.5 MB/s
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> though my experience is by no means exhaustive ;)
[05:12] <dwidmann> So I guess maybe it isn't the network :(
[05:13] <Jucato> wireless to wired..
[05:13] <dwidmann> Yup
[05:13] <Jucato> laptop to desktop heh :)
[05:13] <egon> hello, 1 question Kde 4 is now a little bit late so is it still right tath kde 4 comes to kubuntu 7.10? i hope so xD
[05:13] <Jucato> nope
[05:13] <SlimeyPete> egon: not by default
[05:13] <egon> OO
[05:13] <Jucato> it was never planned that KDE 4 will be on 7.10 by default
[05:13] <egon> way?
[05:13] <egon> :(
[05:13] <Jucato> way
[05:13] <SlimeyPete> but you will be able to install it
[05:13] <dwidmann> egon: it might be available in 8.04, time will tell
[05:14] <Jucato> dwidmann: not by default again
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> egon: 4.0 will only have been out a month at most so it will be very immature
[05:14] <egon> -.- i hate it
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> lots of bugs
[05:14] <dwidmann> drat, I know it had been discussed to death :(
[05:14] <Jucato> egon: BUT, the big BUTT is that there will be KDE 4.0 packages as soon as possible
[05:14] <Jucato> egon: there's really no problem. you can just install it over 7.10
[05:15] <egon> way dont they do 2 kubuntu 7.10 versions 1 with kde 3.5.7 and 1 with kde 4 rc1/2 xD
[05:15] <Jucato> (and 8.04 for that matter)
[05:15] <Jucato> egon: because that is terribly inefficient
[05:15] <dwidmann> What's the current KDE 4.0 "release schedule" anyhow, last I read it was supposed to be sometime not too far in the future
[05:15] <SlimeyPete> egon: I wouldn't worry too much. The initial release isn't likely to be much bett than KDE3 - a lot of the work has gone on "behind the scenes" and the advances won't show up till later on
[05:15] <Jucato> and why would we release a Kubuntu with an RC desktop?
[05:16] <egon> is it hard to install kde 4 bye adept?
[05:16] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: er... that's not entirely correct either
[05:16] <Jucato> egon: right now? KDE 4 Beta? not that hard.
[05:16] <dwidmann> Jucato: egon, hmm, shouldn't be, I might try that after I finish my upgrade to gutsy (on my laptop)
[05:16] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: no? It's the impression I've got so far
[05:16] <dwidmann> I got FAPd again :(
[05:17] <egon> i mean in the final of 7.10
[05:17] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: most of the advances will already be there in KDE 4.0, but 1) not all and 2) not in their "perfect" form
[05:17] <egon> so it is hard ( for a linux noob ) to install kde 4.0 on kubuntu 7.10
[05:17] <Jucato> egon: we'll have to see how it pans out
[05:18] <egon> or not?
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: mmm, but most of them are not user-visible, right?
[05:18] <dr_Willis> a noob dosent need to be messing with kde4.
[05:18] <Jucato> egon: at this point in time, it's too early to determine how the transition will go for any distro
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> that's what I meant
[05:18] <dr_Willis> :) theres not a lot to it
[05:18] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: Oxygen is there (all of it), Plasma (most of it). Phonon and Solid will be visible in some ways
[05:18] <egon> hmmmm :(
[05:18] <Jucato> Strigit too
[05:18] <Jucato> Strigi*
[05:18] <egon> i want to have kde 4.0 :((((((((((((
[05:18] <Jucato> egon: word of advice, don't get too hyped on KDE 4.0
[05:19] <arash> alsamixer has any respective program for Kubuntu, orshould i use it on Kubuntu too?
[05:19] <egon> but someone told me that kubuntu 7.10 have 2 versions 1 with kde 3 and 1 with kde 4
[05:19] <Jucato> egon: nothing definite yet. what's certain is that KDE 4.0 "packages" will be made available
[05:19] <egon> k
[05:20] <Jucato> whether or not we release ISO's of 7.10 with KDE 4.0 by default... that depends on a lot of variables
[05:20] <egon> but wath do you thing yes or no? :D
[05:20] <Jucato> we're not even sure when 4.0 will *really* be released at this point
[05:20] <Jucato> egon: can you predict with exact binary truth what will happen to you tomorrow? :)
[05:20] <dr_Willis> Dont evenknow whats in it.. but people want it. :)
[05:20] <egon> xD
[05:20] <Jucato> dr_Willis: one word: hype
[05:21] <dr_Willis> Jucato,  'the next great hype' :)
[05:21] <dr_Willis> Marketing!
[05:21] <tim__> the desktop widget things look nice, a lot like ensemble DM or whatever it was called
[05:21] <tim__> or vista
[05:21] <egon> yes but the beta 1 works good on live cd :D
[05:21] <Jucato> DM?
[05:21] <Jucato> er... vista is the one that came late into the game :)
[05:22] <tim__> desktop thing, it doesnt have icons, it has a sort of active desktop, a bit like igoogle on your desktop
[05:22] <egon> so thats a good
[05:22] <egon> thing
[05:22] <egon> xD
[05:22] <tim__> so what have people heard is in KDE4?
[05:23] <tim__> DW: yeah your right, because of that, and lack of taskbar ensemble is a bit naff
[05:23] <Jucato> it goes like this: you ignore your desktop or maxmize windows because your desktop is practically useless except as a dumping site...
[05:24] <Jucato> transform your desktop as something not just "beneath" all your other apps, and give it dyanmic usefulness, and you'll use it
[05:25] <tim__> talking of cool but impractical, look at this: http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=3693940921097010804&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=BumpTop&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM0ODskdEPnQ&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D3693940921097010804%26q%3DBumpTop%26total%3D35%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H22Yly9ok22UYvMGj0z_jsJibU0JeA
[05:25] <dr_Willis> I perfer panel applets. :)
[05:25] <dr_Willis> i can see them
[05:25] <tim__> (3d desktop thing)
[05:25] <dr_Willis> ive not seen many 3d desktopp things that make my productivity higher. :)
[05:26] <Jucato> don't confuse Plasma w/ those things :)
[05:26] <Jucato> Plasma != 3D desktop
[05:26] <dr_Willis> Ithink they need to work on namoing things. :)
[05:26] <dr_Willis> They should name stuff after.. cheeses! :)
[05:27] <Jucato> the theme for this release seems to be "elements" at least for the pillars
[05:27] <dr_Willis> is thers also a 'solid, liquid,gas' apps? :)
[05:27] <Jucato> Solid, Phonon, Oxygen, Plasma
[05:28] <tim__> whats phonon?  I'm bad :(
[05:31] <Jucato> too much offtopic... sorry :(
[05:31] <dr_Willis> tim__,  i sort of Perfered the K In front. :)
[05:31] <owl> .oO( guess i'm mentally demaged. that must be a side-effect of having a boyfriend who is physicist ^^ )
[05:31] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d2a705571       help me i am not getting second button
[05:31] <dr_Willis> I just wish gnome and kde would get together on naming the common apps similarty
[05:32] <Jucato> boy...friend...?
[05:32] <Jucato> ksivaji: er wrong place to ask
[05:32] <owl> *g* no, i'm not gay. but female :P
[05:32] <Jucato> hah ok!
[05:32] <Jucato> lol sorry about that
[05:32] <owl> np ;)
[05:32] <Jucato> ksivaji: #gtk or whatever
[05:32] <cybrhuman> Hi, I copied my xorg.conf to another folder using konqueror and that caused some configuration to point to the newly created file for xorg.conf. I would like to change X to use the original file again. could someone tell me how?
[05:32] <ksivaji> Jucato ok
[05:33] <dr_Willis> cybrhuman,  that shouldent of changed anything to point to the new created file
[05:33] <xbehave> i cant get a graphical login on my system, i get an error for a freefontpath
[05:33] <dr_Willis> unless you made a 'link' and not a copy
[05:33] <Jucato> xbehave: feisty or gutsy?
[05:33] <xbehave> fesity
[05:33] <dwidmann> xbehave: an error about a font path, like one not existing? I get that all the time, I think it can be safely ignored
[05:34] <xbehave> dwidmann, i get to see the error if i startx after login, because xorg crashes, and i think a similar thing happens when i login after kdm starts because it crashes me back to login
[05:34] <dwidmann> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> dwidmann,  thats just a warning.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> you dont have the russian fonts inzstalled.
[05:35] <dwidmann> exactly
[05:35] <dr_Willis> (WW) = warning.
[05:35] <xbehave> thats a warning, im not sure what i have but it crashes xorg
[05:35] <dr_Willis> not going to keep the system from booting.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> theres proberly somthing else crashing it.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> start from the begining.. what video card do you have.
[05:35] <dwidmann> xbehave: grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log
[05:36] <xbehave> well ive reconfigured and restored xorgs, i have an nvidia
[05:36] <bogdomania> hello all!im new on using linux,so i dont know much..im trying to install yahoo messenger .deb package and i get in terminal that the dependencies are not satisfied and then libgdk-pixbuf2..what should i do?
[05:36] <dr_Willis> xbehave,  what nvidia card.
[05:36] <cybrhuman> dr_willis: when i then write in terminal "sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite" it says it is using the file I copied to my home directory.
[05:36] <dwidmann> wait, capitol X on Xorg
[05:36] <dr_Willis> cybrhuman,  Hmm...  i cant say that ive ever seen it do that that way. Tell the command which xorg.conf to use.  that tool is using that file.. not X. :)
[05:37] <dr_Willis> cybrhuman,  it may be defaulting to the one in the home diur because it exiusts.. and is 'safer' to test with.
[05:37] <cybrhuman> dr_willis, how do I tell the tool which file to use?
[05:38] <xbehave> and i hade to restroe my filesystem on my root partition since then ive been unable to login, im running nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600]  (rev a1)
[05:38] <dwidmann> xbehave: , pastebin the results of "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and we may be more able to help :)
[05:40] <vbgunz> anyone know whats up with K3Bs DVD ripper? it never proceeds to rip anything, it appears it stays stuck "resizing" but it is not frozen. I am trying to rip home movies. anyone know whats up?
[05:40] <xbehave> dwidmann, it only gives me (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom which is a useless device error
[05:40] <dwidmann> xbehave: that's odd
[05:41] <dwidmann> xbehave: try this: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backup.xorg.conf && startx
[05:42] <dwidmann> in Feisty/Gutsy it should get you a minimally working X
[05:42] <xbehave> ill need to restart ill be back soon
[05:43] <t4m1n0> hello there
[05:44] <t4m1n0> Where exactly do I have to put "profile" in my groob.list so indexing will remember my settings and boot time will be shorter?? I write it at the and of line "kernel/vlminuz..." but with upper case so it can be noted. Did I write profile on the correct places ???
[05:44] <t4m1n0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35670/
[05:44] <t4m1n0> output of grub.list
[05:47] <ubunturos> how do I start compiz from the GUI
[05:47] <ubunturos> ?
[05:47] <dwidmann> t4m1n0: the profile deal is a one-time thing, you boot with profile once, then you don't boot with profile in the list anymore
[05:47] <t4m1n0> dwidmann, I know
[05:47] <TonserPerson> i get an error when i try to boot the Kubuntu install CD with my mouse plugged in
[05:48] <TonserPerson> and it seems like i cant start the installer with my keyboard
[05:48] <TonserPerson> can anyone help me?
[05:48] <t4m1n0> dwidmann, but every next time is faster
[05:48] <alex_> hola
[05:48] <ubunturos> how do I start Compiz via the GUI? If I'm already logged in GUI
[05:48] <ubunturos> ?
[05:48] <dwidmann> t4m1n0: yes, so when booting, press e to edit the boot entry, go to the kernel line, press e again, add profile on the end, then press enter once, then b to boot
[05:49] <t4m1n0> dwidmann, I just weite profile?
[05:49] <t4m1n0> at the end of line?
[05:49] <dwidmann> yeah
[05:49] <t4m1n0> weite= profile
[05:49] <t4m1n0> kul
[05:49] <alex_> some chat for spanih?
[05:49] <dwidmann> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:50] <ubunturos> !compiz
[05:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:00] <ubunturos> how do I start compiz? when I try and replace Kwin's window manager, the title bars min, max buttons disappear
[06:02] <benni> join xfce
[06:02] <ubunturos> :-/
[06:05] <Jucato> beer, coffee, grapejuice??
[06:05] <Jucato> O.o
[06:05] <Jucato> oh well... brb
[06:06] <soa2ii> Hi there... i need again your help my keyboards still weird
[06:06] <soa2ii> do you remember Jucato ?
[06:07] <soa2ii> i just bootet from an install disk and typed in a console... it seems to be a kde problem...
[06:08] <soa2ii> when i type a char the same char appears sommetimes up to 10 times...
[06:08] <soa2ii> someone an idea why?
[06:10] <turazoor> peeps
[06:10] <t4m1n0> would anyone know how can I check what RAM do I have. I know there is 512MBs of ram. But I don't know how fast it is how many HZs ??
[06:11] <zipper> t4m1n0, use memtest86
[06:11] <turazoor> can anyone explain why after mounting my second hard drive to /media i now cannot access my media folders, it says "you do not have access rights"!!
[06:11] <zipper> t4m1n0, it's in the boot loader (probably GRUB)
[06:11] <t4m1n0> zipper, yes it's there
[06:12] <t4m1n0> zipper, is this the only chance? cause I have to reboot my comp..
[06:12] <turazoor> t4m1n0: reboot your pc, when it comes up with Esc to enter menu, press Esc lol!, then hit Memtest
[06:12] <turazoor> ah ok ^^^^^ lol
[06:12] <zipper> t4m1n0, probably not, but its the easiest way of getting all the info you want (and then some)
[06:12] <zipper> that said, i dont know how to check otherwise
[06:12] <zipper> so replace "easiest" with "easy"
[06:13] <soa2ii> noona an idea whats wrong with my keyboard?
[06:13] <turazoor> soa2ii: your back!
[06:14] <turazoor> soa2ii: still haven't got my wireless USB to work! it's an odd one lol !
[06:14] <turazoor> wots with ya keyboard?
[06:19] <turazoor> soa2ii: u there>
[06:20] <xbehave> dr_Willis, its still the same, it found out i can login under root, it will start but theres no desktop (i assume thats just because root doesnt get a desktop tho)
[06:21] <soa2ii> turazoor: sry
[06:21] <soa2ii> if i type on char sometime a lot of those chars appear...
[06:21] <turazoor> soa2ii: hi ya dude
[06:21] <flake> hsf modems are limited to 14.4??
[06:21] <soa2ii> i changed the keyboard.... it's a system error...
[06:21] <turazoor> soa2ii: does it do it anywhere particular...?
[06:22] <turazoor> ahh ok!
[06:22] <soa2ii> hm... it seems to a kde error
[06:22] <xbehave> i cant login but can startx without logging in or as root
[06:22] <soa2ii> because i just bootet a console and everything seemed to be alright
[06:22] <turazoor> soa2ii: hmmm... surely you can reinstall Kde
[06:23] <turazoor> soa2ii: dont suppose u know much about this Nickserv thing do you, ie how to reset ur password, cos it isn't recognising mine anymore lol!
[06:23] <soa2ii> hm...
[06:24] <soa2ii> ok i'll just save my files...
[06:24] <soa2ii> damn it... the first really weird problem i got...
[06:24] <turazoor> soa2ii: lucky u, i got loads of em, and i've only been using for a day
[06:24] <turazoor> lol
[06:26] <turazoor> soa2ii:  the usb device, screen resolution, and mounting at the moment lol!
[06:26] <soa2ii> rofl... ok if oure new some things are not like windows but no real problems...
[06:27] <soa2ii> you can solve them without probs...
[06:27] <soa2ii> but this keyboard prob is really weird...
[06:27] <soa2ii> well i'll get smth to eat... brb
[06:28] <turazoor> soa2ii: kk dude!
[06:29] <turazoor> peeps, can someone check whether this is ok lol!.... i pretty much just made it up lol!   "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media"
[06:29] <turazoor> .... i want to mount a second drive so that i can retrieve stuff off it!
[06:29] <turazoor> it used to be a windows drive
[06:29] <genii> turazoor: You want a directory inside directory /media
[06:30] <xbehave> its better as mount /dev/hdb1 /media/win
[06:30] <turazoor> genii: lol, err how do i unmount it then
[06:30] <xbehave> but youd need to sudo mkdir /media/win 1st
[06:30] <turazoor> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:30] <xbehave> umount /media
[06:30] <turazoor> thats what i tried to do first i.e. put it in a folder but it didnt work lol!
[06:31] <turazoor> so i assumed it wanted to make its own folder lol!
[06:31] <tim_away> what file system was the drive using?
[06:31] <tim_away> NTFS or FAT
[06:31] <xbehave> nope mount cant make directories
[06:31] <turazoor> i think it's NTFS
[06:31] <Angelus> have anyone here gave a try to kde4 beta?
[06:32] <tim_away> ok, to get read write on a windows drive I think you need to install fuse NTFS (search fuse in adept)
[06:32] <xbehave> !ntfs
[06:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:32] <tim_away> I'll be back in a mo, and I'll pase in a line for your /etc/fstab
[06:32] <Angelus> fuese ntfs?
[06:32] <Angelus> dude
[06:32] <hydrogen> !fuse
[06:32] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[06:32] <Angelus> use ntfs-3g
[06:32] <tim_away> yeah thats the one
[06:32] <Angelus> :/
[06:32] <hydrogen> !ntfs-3g
[06:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:33] <xbehave> ntfs-3g is the easier way to go
[06:33] <hydrogen> either works
[06:33] <hydrogen> err
[06:33] <hydrogen> ntfs-3g is a fuse fs
[06:33] <Angelus> i dunno
[06:33] <tim_away> turazoor: install ntfs-3g in adept
[06:33] <owl> re
[06:33] <Angelus> ntfs-3g always worked for meh
[06:33] <tim_away> its what I meant either way
[06:33] <turazoor> tim_away: i'll use aptitude if dat ok!
[06:34] <turazoor> lol
[06:35] <elite101> hello
[06:35] <turazoor> ok aptitude is now installing it
[06:35] <turazoor> and its done!
[06:36] <tim_away> ok, now add a line to your fstab like:
[06:36] <stephanh> An error occurred while loading http://www.nordic-t.org:
[06:36] <stephanh> Timeout on server
[06:36] <stephanh>  Connection was to www.nordic-t.org at port 80
[06:36] <stephanh> anyone who can tell me the problem??:S
[06:37] <tim_away>  /dev/hdb1 /media/win ntfs-3g users 0 0
[06:37] <tim_away> turazoor: /dev/hdb1 /media/win ntfs-3g users 0 0
[06:37] <tim_away> you'll need to be root so sudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:38] <stephanh> tim me?
[06:38] <tim_away> then paste that line in at the bottom, read it so it makes sense, and make sure /media/win exists
[06:38] <tim_away> no soz
[06:38] <tim_away> another guy
[06:38] <stephanh> kk
[06:38] <turazoor> err... ok hang on
[06:38] <tim_away> turazoor: then go sudo mount /media/win
[06:38] <tim_away> should auto mount every boot
[06:39] <flake> is there another provider of hsx modems besides Conexant, they want to charge for their drivers
[06:39] <hydrogen> err
[06:39] <tim_away> tuz: and now I'm going for a smoke
[06:39] <hydrogen> and make sure that your windows partition is /dev/hdb1
[06:39] <hydrogen> oh
[06:39] <hydrogen> nvm
[06:39] <turazoor> ok quickly remind me how to open my fstab lol
[06:39] <hydrogen> I read up
[06:39] <hydrogen> :)
[06:39] <hydrogen> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[06:39] <turazoor> ty
[06:40] <hydrogen> or kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:40] <hydrogen> if you want an editor that is a bit more intuitive
[06:40] <hydrogen> and graphical
[06:40] <tim_away> bah console people, user interfaces exist for a reason
[06:40] <tim_away> or is this the wrong place to say that
[06:41] <ScorpKing> yes
[06:41] <turazoor> lol
[06:41] <shinobi> each to his own...terminal has it's place
[06:41] <stephanh> haha:D
[06:41] <turazoor> i'll use the interface
[06:41] <hydrogen> the console is a user interface :)
[06:41] <hydrogen> and vi is much quicker than kate once you figure out how to use it
[06:41] <shinobi> and you gotta love vi
[06:41] <ScorpKing> true
[06:42] <Jucato> vi..
[06:42] <Jucato> m
[06:44] <turazoor> ok my fstab wont save
[06:44] <turazoor> apparently kate can write to the file
[06:45] <Jucato> you need to edit it as root.
[06:45] <tim_away> you need to be root, sudo
[06:45] <Jucato> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:45] <Jucato> !kdesu
[06:45] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:46] <tim_away> well I never knew that
[06:46] <Goop> hey all, I was wondering; is there any advantage of using Kubuntu over the regular Ubuntu?
[06:46] <turazoor> ah ha
[06:46] <turazoor> cool
[06:46] <tim_away> I'v always used xfce tll recently
[06:46] <Jucato> as they said in G.I. Joe, "Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!"
[06:46] <tim_away> goop: its got kde, if you like kde
[06:46] <Jucato> well on GNOME and Xfce, it would be gksu or gksudo
[06:58] <Jucato> Goop: Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE. Both have the same underlying (non-graphical) systems, but above that everything else is different
[06:58] <Jucato> except for OpenOffice.org
[06:58] <Goop> tim_away, I've never used it before
[06:58] <Goop> The regular Ubuntu won't boot properly from the livecd on one pc
[06:58] <tim> try xubuntu?
[06:58] <tim> its lighter
[06:58] <Goop> I have a feeling it may be my cd drive
[06:58] <Goop> in windows it often gives "cyclic redunancy errors"
[06:58] <Goop> althouhg at the moment i don't have access to a drive cleaner cd
[06:58] <tim> drive transplant?
[06:58] <Goop> no other drive that I can use, and to be honest I don't plan to install it
[06:58] <Goop> my family is paranoid that I will screw up the PC
[06:58] <tim> er... flashdrive boot? if anyone know how to do that
[06:58] <turazoor> tim: nice one buddy, it's up and running...
[06:58] <mluser> is there a kubuntu Gutsy specific irc channel?
[06:58] <turazoor> tim: u might be able to help with an on-going "wierd" problem of mine, if ur not too busy
[06:58] <genii> mluser: #kubuntu #ubuntu+1 for gutsy and best for gutsty kubuntu is #kubuntu-devel
[06:58] <mluser> genii: thanks
[06:58] <genii> mluser: np
[06:58] <tim> tuz: possibly, I'm not that good though
[06:58] <Goop> genii, I think it's a philips drive, although it's probably just got a bit of dust on the lens
[06:58] <DjDarkman> hy how can I set up a samba share to work like a windows one? currently it keeps bugging me for password...
[06:58] <tim> darkman: you need to change it from the samba conf file
[06:58] <tim> you got access to that PC?
[06:58] <DjDarkman> it`s my pc
[06:58] <DjDarkman> no frontend for this?
[06:58] <genii> Goop: When it's a decent drive and the cyclic redundancy error crops up a lot of the time the motor inside is slowing down (or pulley belt stretched out, causing slowdown)
[06:58] <tim> ok, I'll log onto my pc and have a look at the file
[06:58] <tim> yeah there is, probably, but its just a small change
[06:58] <DjDarkman> that would be nice
[06:58] <DjDarkman> I  want to set this up for my home network
[06:58] <tim> I have similar setup. its possible
[06:58] <Elite101> what is the command to show connected PCI cards?
[06:58] <Goop> genii: the drive is supposed to be a cd-rw drive and can read DVDs, but it gives that error when reading DVDs and writing cds
[06:58] <Elite101> is it Ispci?
[06:58] <genii> lspci
[06:58] <Elite101> okay
[06:58] <turazoor> tim: kk i'll explain and see!... basically, i've narrowed the problem down to my USB Bus i think! when i plugged my wireless network adaptor into the pc when i tried the live cd version, it worked!... so i installed.... and now it lags the system.. but the the only difference is that the usb device is on a different bus
[06:58] <Goop> genii: sometimes even reading cds
[06:58] <turazoor> Elite101: i think is lspci
[06:58] <genii> Goop: Likely the motor is dying
[06:58] <turazoor> ...but i am a newbie lol
[06:58] <tim> ok, open the file /etc/samba/smb.conf in a root editer (kdesu kate?)
[06:58] <tim> (darkman)
[06:58] <genii> bah work. AFK
[06:58] <tim> under "authentication" set "security" to share
[06:58] <tim> make sure its uncommented
[06:58] <dev__> how to use ssh with particular port no ?
[06:58] <Raven> salut tous le monde
[06:58] <genii> tim: Make sure he does testparm
[06:59] (Goop/#kubuntu) Raven: salut
[07:00] (tim/#kubuntu) darkman: let us know if it works when thats done
[07:00] (tim/#kubuntu) er, smb should refresh its settings about once a minute
[07:00] (ScorpKing/#kubuntu) using samba with security = user is also easy with a bit more security.
[07:01] <tim> no he specificaly wants no password
[07:01] <ScorpKing> ok
[07:02] <stephanh> anyone who can help me install beryl?
[07:03] <tim> turazoor: if your still there, USB is a bit funny, on your motherboard are devices called USB controllers. bandwidth is per USB controller. If the port you have it plugged in on is owned by the same controller as say the one handling your external hard drive or mayb mouse it can mean trouble
[07:03] <turazoor> your kidding lol!
[07:03] <genii> back
[07:03] <Goop> so does KDE use different config tools than GNOME?
[07:04] <genii> tim: testparm dblchecks your smb.conf and makes sure syntax is OK and no glarin errors
[07:04] <Goop> and can I use GNOME applications in Kubuntu?
[07:04] <venik212> my keyboard died in the weirdest way: it works fine for the password, but once Kubuntu comes up, the keyboard is dead
[07:04] <turazoor> i have 8 USB ports, are they all going to do the same or is there going to be 1/2 that it may not bug on then?
[07:04] <coreymon77> Goop: gnome applications are still linux applications
[07:04] <tim> in kinfocenter (kdesu kinfocenter) you can browse through and see if your wireless device is connected to the same controller as something else
[07:04] <coreymon77> Goop: you can use gnome apps on kde andkde apps on gnome
[07:05] <turazoor> ok.... that requires plugging it in lol! and handling the ludicrous lag lol! GRRRR!
[07:05] <Goop> coreymon77: ok, thanks
[07:05] <tim> in kinfocenter, go to usb. if its under the same host controller, could be a problem
[07:05] <tim> maybe not though
[07:05] <genii> goop: If you have a low end computer you may want to stick with just all kde or all gnome. Loading the extra libraries and so on from one while using the other can strain old computers
[07:06] <venik212> can anyone help me fix the keyboard?  I did not edit the xorg.conf or anything else
[07:06] <turazoor> if something else USB works in the same port that the Belkin doesnt does that rule that out?
[07:06] <tim> if in doubt try using its windows drivers under ndiswrapper
[07:06] <Goop> genii: well this computer isn't old, but does 256MB of RAM count as old?
[07:06] <Chousuke> yes.
[07:07] <coreymon77> whose having the wifi problems?
[07:07] <genii> Goop: If the cpu is better than a Pentium 2 class with that much ram you should be OK
[07:07] <turazoor> ndiswrapper doesn't support it, as it works plug 'n' play thru ubuntu i think
[07:07] <Goop> I want to get any *ubuntu working on that "old" pc properly, because this PC has graphics card issues
[07:07] <genii> goop: If you had under 192 it might be a prob
[07:07] <Goop> any 3D app gives corruption in windows or linux...
[07:07] <DjDarkman> tim: why do I get the permission denied error?
[07:08] <Goop> genii: I think it's a pentium 3 or 4
[07:08] <Goop> genii: it was originally windows NT I think
[07:08] <tim> no its about data bandwidth. USB dong wireless devices are mostly softmac, that is the computer handles most of the stuff usualy handled by chips on the acutal dongle. therefore it needs to poll the dongle frequently. a mouse makes a suprisingly huge amount of traffic across the bus, which on USB1 only supports 30 MBS
[07:09] <tim> you can still use ndiswrapper if you suppress the default driver
[07:09] <tim> darkman: you mean when saving the file?
[07:09] <tim> DJdarkman: you mean when saving the file?
[07:09] <tim> you need to be root, in the console: sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:10] <DjDarkman> no the samba deamon has problems but I think I know what`s the problem
[07:10] <genii> Goop: You should be OK to run both kinds of apps then, KDE and Gnome ones from the same window manager.
[07:11] <coreymon77> turazoor: whats the matter?
[07:11] <Goop> genii: I heard about fluxbox, apparently it is faster for machines with older graphics cards
[07:11] <Goop> but there are no desktop effects for that
[07:11] <Angelus> how come Adept is only giving me the source of spca5xxx webcam driver? if im not wrong there was a package that installs the driver?
[07:11] <tim> his dongle causes lag and he things its the USB bus
[07:11] <Goop> and I want eyecandy :D
[07:12] <stephanh> is there any msn looking program for linux?? and wahts its name?
[07:13] <tim> msn: kopete, and its installed by default
[07:13] <Angelus> stephanh:
[07:13] <Goop> stephanh: GAIM can be used for MSN
[07:13] <Angelus> amsn :) stephanh its the nicest and best one :)
[07:13] <coreymon77> stephanh: i use mercury
[07:13] <Angelus> stephanh: http://amsn-project.net :)
[07:13] <Goop> stephanh: I don't think it supports Windows Live  Messenger features like scripts
[07:13] <coreymon77> stephanh: mercury.to
[07:13] <coreymon77> stephanh: mercury is on apt
[07:14] <Angelus> stephanh:  amsn looks the most like MSN so yeah, if you want something like windows live messenger download aMSN from amsn-project.net
[07:14] <coreymon77> stephanh: youre not gonna get something that supports all of the windows live messenger features though
[07:14] <genii> Goop: Yes, fluxbox and xfce are good for older equipment and take up less overhead to run.
[07:14] <stephanh> okay thanks guys!:) do any of you know how to install beryl cant get it work...
[07:14] <turazoor> coreymon77: hi, errr... there's something causing kubuntu to slow up to an almost stand still when i plug my belkin wireless network adaptor in! it worked fine whilst in live cd versio
[07:14] <coreymon77> stephanh: driver problems?
[07:14] <stephanh> no idea:S
[07:14] <coreymon77> stephanh: sorry, wrong person
[07:14] <stephanh> im all new to linux!!!:P (first day)
[07:14] <stephanh> ^ok
[07:14] <coreymon77> turazoor: driver problems?
[07:15] <tim> turazoor: I really suggest you suppress the default driver and use ndiswrapper
[07:15] <tim> what chipset
[07:15] <turazoor> ra something.... hang on
[07:15] <tim> is it a belkin FD7050
[07:15] <turazoor> coreymon77: ndiswrapper dont support it
[07:15] <coreymon77> stephanh: one thing about the msn client, this is linux not windows, you are not going to get something exactly like wlm
[07:16] <turazoor> tim: yeah, version 3001uk
[07:16] <coreymon77> stephanh: or something that supports all of the features
[07:16] <tim> I think I'm using V3, and I'm on NDIS
[07:16] <coreymon77> stephanh: so dont expect it to be exactly like the microsoft version
[07:16] <coreymon77> turazoor: can you find out the chipset?
[07:17] <turazoor> coreymon77: yeah hang on a second
[07:17] <tim> turazoor: can you write the FCC ID number off the back
[07:17] <venik212> I just tested my keyboard on the same hardware, booting in XP-- works fine, but it is dead in Kubuntu
[07:17] <coreymon77> tim: let him find the chipset first
[07:17] <tim> well the FCCID will tell us which version it is, and we can find the chipset from there
[07:17] <turazoor> tim: it's K7S-f5D7050b
[07:18] <Angelus> can someone tell me the driver name pls for Logitech webcam?
[07:18] <coreymon77> turazoor: chip?
[07:18] <turazoor> coreymon77: yep now looking it up
[07:18] <tim> yeah under that there is a line reading "fcc ID"
[07:18] <Goop> venik212: what type of keyboard is it? USB or PS2?
[07:18] <tim> what does that say
[07:18] <venik212> I tried both
[07:18] <venik212> same death
[07:19] <venik212> It is a software problem, since it works fine for the password
[07:19] <tim> is it "K7SF5D7050B"
[07:19] <lunitik> In Gutsy, what does the 'enterprise' tag on some packages entail? I thought Ubuntu doesn't make any differentiation between home and enterprise packages?
[07:20] <turazoor> coreymon77: it's the rt73 chip
[07:20] <coreymon77> lunitik: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:20] <tim> turazoor, yes thats V3
[07:20] <lunitik> coreymon77: It's not a support question.
[07:20] <turazoor> tim: yeah ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[07:20] <tim> turazoor: I'm using ndiswrapper for that without complant
[07:21] <turazoor> ok then
[07:21] <tim> but you might have a problem getting it to un autodetect
[07:21] <tim> anyone know how to supress a driver?
[07:21] <turazoor> coreymon77 does i beleive
[07:21] <tim> *finaly going for that smoke before the girlfriend gets back, disapearing
[07:21] <turazoor> kk dude
[07:21] <turazoor> sorry
[07:22] <anthronaut> Hi everyone. All of my windows, task bar and so on just disappeared, the desktop's showing only my wallpaper. The processes are still running in the background. Does anyone know how I can get back the programs to the desktop to save my data?
[07:23] <venik212> When I hit any key, I hear a faint beep, but no other response from Kubuntu
[07:23] <turazoor> coreymon77: would u be able to talk me through supressing the driver?
[07:24] <rustalot> when will KDE4 go into beta?
[07:24] <venik212> since hte kb is dead, I cannot even do anything with the terminal
[07:24] <xbehave> i cant login but can startx without logging in or as root
[07:25] <GuyFromHell> Can someone point me in the right direction for the config file i'd want to change to get my wireless to connect to a specific essid and then run vpnc?
[07:26] <turazoor> coreymon77: u there?
[07:26] <tim> wfconfig wlan0 essid ESSID
[07:26] <tim> oh like as in a script?
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> yea
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> as in
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> at startup
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> i know how to do it by hand
[07:26] <turazoor> tim: thought u were going for smoke lol
[07:26] <tim> er put in in your bash profile
[07:26] <tim> I did, I'm just quick
[07:26] <turazoor> lol
[07:27] <GuyFromHell> tim: user or system?
[07:27] <Goop> venik212: I'm searching for a solution for ya :)
[07:27] <venik212> thanks
[07:27] <venik212> I am dead in the water
[07:27] <turazoor> anyone know how to suppress a driver?
[07:27] <tim> user, I'd assume
[07:27] <tim> thats what will come on when you log in
[07:28] <llutz> turazoor: prevent loading? blacklist it
[07:28] <GuyFromHell> tim: k i'll give it a shot
[07:28] <turazoor> llutz: ok then how do i do that?
[07:29] <tim> best of all you can test it by logging in and out rather than a full reboot
[07:29] <llutz> turazoor: add it to /etc/modprobe/blacklist or create a new blacklist-file there
[07:29] <tim> oh but hang on, it will do it every time you open a terminal
[07:29] <tim> so dont do that
[07:29] <Goop> venik212: meanshile you keep searching, there's probably an on-screen keyboard somewhere
[07:29] <Goop> *meanwhile
[07:29] <tim> put it in an RC script instead
[07:29] <tim> specificaly (I think) rc.5
[07:30] <turazoor> llutz: i'm a newbie, soz but the blacklist is empty so what am i writing and how do i find out what driver itis i need to suppress it's for a USB wireless network adaptor
[07:31] <venik212> using an on screen kb is too slow for work....
[07:32] <venik212> I booted the same machine in XP and everything works fine
[07:32] <llutz> turazoor: it's /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist  sry
[07:32] <dwidmann> turazoor: put in "blacklist somedriver" (where somedriver is the driver you want to  blacklist)
[07:33] <llutz> turazoor: you should know the name of the unwanted driver, just add a line "blacklist <module>"
[07:33] <tim> clear
[07:33] <tim> I meant /clear
[07:33] <venik212> this happened while I was editing a simple text file
[07:34] <llutz> venik212: use XP then
[07:34] <turazoor> lol
[07:34] <venik212> very funny
[07:34] <turazoor> ^^
[07:34] <venik212> also, very helpful
[07:34] <llutz> venik212: no joke: if something works with <OS of you choice>, use it
[07:35] <genii> llutz: Exactly
[07:35] <venik212> you mean, it is OK for Ubuntu to kill the keyboard, and the solution is to switch back to XP?
[07:35] <turazoor> llutz: errr.... sorry but i am a dipshit when it comes to linux, tis my first day lol! so where would i find the name for the driver in question...
[07:36] <dwidmann> :\ this sftp file transfer is *still* going ... man is this slow
[07:36] <llutz> turazoor: why do you think you have to blacklist a special module, if you even don't know its name?
[07:36] <genii> turazoor: How did you come to the conclusion there is a driver you need to blacklist?
[07:36] <turazoor> lol
[07:37] <turazoor> cos i was told to blacklist the driver for my wireless usb adaptor because as soon as i plug it in, it slows up the system so someone suggested blacklisting it and trying ndiswrapper
[07:37] <llutz> turazoor: then ask the one who told you for the module name
[07:37] <turazoor> nobody told me the module name lol!
[07:38] <llutz> turazoor: of compare the output of "lsmod" before and after you plugin your stick
[07:38] <turazoor> llutz: cheers
[07:38] <genii> better yet plug it in, then unplug it. then look at dmesg
[07:38] <llutz> of=or
[07:40] <gekco> hi
[07:40] <gekco> why
[07:41] <gekco> why when I put the movie in fullscreen still a little square ?
[07:41] <venik212> OK-- I found the problem.  SOMEHOW, Kubuntu chose to activate SLOW KEYS, something that is hidden in the ACCESSIBILITY tab in system setting
[07:41] <Goop> venik212: I'd dual-boot XP and Ubuntu, that way you have an alternative if one of them crashes
[07:41] <venik212> I unchecked the box, and all is well
[07:41] <gekco> I want the movie to fill the entire screen
[07:42] <venik212> I really do not need to be told to move to XP when I have a problem in Ubuntu-- it is the opposite of helpful
[07:42] <Goop> venik212:  good for you :D
[07:42] <venik212> I dual boot
[07:42] <Goop> venik212:  I wasn't telling yo to switch, sorry, just some general advice
[07:43] <tim> turazoor: the driver is called R2*00 or something, at least in the package repository
[07:44] <stephanh> hmm can anyone tell me why my azures program is closing as soon as i opens it?:S
[07:45] <tim> *rt2x00
[07:46] <turazoor> i have got rt2570, rt2x00lib, rt73USB, rt25USB
[07:46] <tim> rt2x00lib I think
[07:46] <turazoor> ok i'm gonna do the same in live cd version be back in bit peeps!
[07:46] <tim> but you can literaly blacklist all of them
[07:47] <turazoor> #
[07:47] <turazoor> brb
[07:50] <toki> I've updated kde to gutsy and my kcontrol is empty. Please help me fix this?
[07:52] <tim> can anyone got a fstab line for mounting an anonymous samba network share?
[07:52] <Alloosh> guys, I see that my modem is blicking so it means that there is someone who is downloading or uploading something to my compu, where can I find out what is going on?
[07:52] <tim> netstat
[07:52] <tim> netstat -a
[07:53] <xbehave> x starts but wont let me login, what should i do?
[07:54] <Dr_willis_>  can you login at the console?
[07:54] <xbehave> Dr_willis_,  yes but then it wont start
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> 'it wont start' ? huh?
[07:54] <jessen> hey, I just installed kubuntu after trying many, many distros for my thinkpad t60, and man, what a difference!! I'm really glad I decided to try it out
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> Its possible your caps lock/keyboard/keymap is wrong for X. messing things up.
[07:55] <xbehave> startx crashes if i run it when loged in
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> you can try killing the kdm service. then using 'startx' as a user.
[07:55] <jessen> just thought i'd pop in and express my gratitude to all the devs
[07:55] <xbehave> Dr_willis_, no it logs me in thencrashes and takes me back to the login screen
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> and the crash/error messages are?
[07:56] <xbehave> well the only 1 i see is to do with freefontpath and everybody says it cant be causeing the error
[07:56] <Dr_willis_> xbehave,  back to the login screen? you dident try it with KDM NOT running then. Or are you refering to the Console Login: prompt?
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> Somthing seems very odd. here. I think ya need to sumamrize the problem.
[07:57] <xbehave> i shut down kdm (by choosing console login) then loged in and it loged me in to tty6 fine
[07:57] <turazoor> right.... i logged into live version and it doesn't load one of the modules that this version does, so where was that blacklist again lol
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> KDM starts - but you cant login,  'startx' from a console = crashes?
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> as a test. make a new user, see if they can login into X from KDM.
[07:57] <xbehave> yes, and sudo startx from console = it starts but i cant do anything usefull
[07:58] <xbehave> how do i make a new user from console?
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> make a .xinitrc file in the root users home dir /root with the line 'startkde' :)
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> adduser bgates
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> will add a user.
[07:58] <dwidmann> hmm, that's interesting ... the slowness of these sftp file transfers seems to be linked to a problem in the kio slave ...
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> startx reads the .xinitrc file normalluy
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> well work time for me. byeeeeeeeeee.
[07:59] <turazoor> can someone tell me where the blacklist has disappeared off too, i cant find it lol!
[07:59] <tim> :( I clearscreened
[07:59] <turazoor> tim: lol
[07:59] <tim> someone copy paste the blacklist file path from a few minutes ago?
[08:00] <turazoor> tim: y can u lol
[08:00] <turazoor> oh yeah u cleared
[08:00] <genii> I think /etc/modprobe.d
[08:00] <turazoor> i think there was a bit on the end genii
[08:00] <marciomra> how do you do?
[08:01] <tim> so go "ls /etc/modprobe.d" to get a list
[08:01] <genii> turazoor: /etc/modprobe.d is the directory you want. In there make the file blacklist
[08:01] <marciomra> wht hi counter amsn mi?
[08:02] <turazoor> do i need to logoff to activate the new blacklist??
[08:03] <tim> can anyone got a fstab line for mounting an anonymous samba network share?
[08:03] <dwidmann> turazoor: should probably reboot, or at least modprobe -r the module
[08:03] <turazoor> module not found, i'm guessing that mean its blacklisted
[08:04] <tim> fstab: just a copy paste, known working
[08:06] <Menda> hi
[08:11] <meekus> is there a way to log out in KDE via a konsole command?
[08:11] <tsdgeos> via dcop yes
[08:12] <tsdgeos> not sure of the actual command line you need though
[08:12] <meekus> kk.  at least that points me in the right direction :) ty kindly
[08:13] <meekus> excellent - think I found it: dcop kdesktop default logout
[08:13] <flake> I need to talk to a vi user
[08:13] <tinin>  Hi, could someone explain me what should I do to know if my soundcard supports midis?
[08:14] <ptfd9100> vmplayer problems, anyone help?
[08:14] <flake> i think i have an extra LF or CR on the end of a line, how do I fix it using vi ?   I know J will join the lines..
[08:14] <NickPresta> !midi | tinin
[08:14] <ubotu> tinin: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:14] <tinin> thanx
[08:15] <tinin> But is timidity always needed to play midi?
[08:15] <owl> hmmm. how to integrate a kdm-theme?
[08:16] <tinin> even windows and my chap cellphone supports midi out of the box
[08:16] <tinin> *cheap
[08:17] <Turazoor> ok, why isn't this blacklisting i've placed RT25usb into the blacklist but it's still loading
[08:21] <Turazoor> is /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, just for Modules? and is RT25usb different from a module as it appears to be a driver, if it is does anyone know how to disable it
[08:21] <dwidmann> Turazoor: that's interesting, keep in mind also that it is *case sensitive*
[08:22] <Turazoor> yep! fort that the first time it didn't blacklist lol
[08:29] <Turazoor> dwidmann: so how can i go about removing it?
[08:29] <dwidmann> Turazoor: well, "sudo modprobe -r modulename", make sure that the case is correct (ie: it's case sensitive), same goes for in the blacklist file (case sensitive)
[08:29] <genii> everything in *nix is case sensitive
[08:29] <dwidmann> pretty much yeah
[08:29] <Turazoor> dwidmann: it's says it cant be found!
[08:29] <Turazoor> but i know it's correct because i have seen it in dmesg
[08:29] <dwidmann> :s
[08:29] <dwidmann> turazoor, check it in lsmod?
[08:29] <genii> Turazoor: Also make sure you put a newline after the last entry you have there. in other words, go to the end of the last word of the last line and then hit enter once or twice to put some empty lines under that one.
[08:29] <emilsedgh> is there any plan to replace OO.o with Koffice2 after its release?
[08:29] <Turazoor> dwidmann: it's not appearing in lsmod but it isn't loaded at the moment because its casuing problems it loads as soon as i plug the device in
[08:29] <chris_> hi all. Just installed fiesty and have got really quiet and distorred sound - anyone had this?
[08:29] <NickPresta> !sound
[08:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:29] <chris_> thanks, i'll check those out
[08:30] <Turazoor> dwidmann: and i have put a newline lol!
[08:30] <meekus> Where can I change my network card speed down to 10mbs half duplex?
[08:31] <Turazoor> meekus: eiwwww.... 10mbps y wud u wanna do that?
[08:32] <meekus> for testing :)
[08:32] <Turazoor> meekus: kk
[08:32] <Turazoor> meekus: lol.... good for u
[08:32] <dwidmann> Turazoor: plug it in, then lsmod, copy _ paste me the relevant line, also copy + paste the relevant line from your blacklist file.
[08:32] <meekus> I am getting weird networking issues, and think it may be network speed.  (I am grasping at straws lol)
[08:33] <Turazoor> dwidmann: will take me awhile cos its slow when i plug in
[08:33] <Turazoor> dwidmann: blacklist line = blacklist RT25usb
[08:36] <Turazoor> dwidmann: ok, the other three modules that i want installed are there but no RT25usb in lsmod
[08:37] <NickPresta> meekus, you can use `ethtool` or `mii-tool` to change duplex settings and such. Don't forget to restart the network after
[08:37] <meekus> NickPresta: ahh kk.  ty kindly :)
[08:39] <Turazoor> ?
[08:42] <genii> meekus: Or you can do:  sudo ifconfig eth0 down speed 10       then just sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[08:43] <genii> meekus: speeds: 10=10Mb/half 20=10Mb/full 100=100Mb/half 200=200Mb/full
[08:43] <Turazoor> dwidmann: heres it in dmesg  1178.601942]  RT25usb  Driver version 1.0.0
[08:44] <genii> meekus: 200=100Mb/full   rather :)
[08:44] <Turazoor> anywhere on the internet that i can check what files in kubuntu are?
[08:52] <turazoor> does anyone know anything about RT25usb, and how i might go about blocking it?
[08:54] <paco> xorg restarts everytime i login, and i get an error to do with xauth locking ~/.xauthority when i startx while already loged in
[08:54] <SubNet> Guten Abend!
[08:56] <jake_> Hello
[08:56] <titanix88> hi
[08:56] <SubNet> Hab ein Problem mit Kaffeine: Der Player zeigt nur vllig verschobene Videos an ...
[08:56] <titanix88> english plz.
[08:56] <jake_> Does anyone know if there is a Graphic User Interfaced MUSH or MUD client for Kubuntu?
[08:56] <SubNet> Das sieht aus, als wrde er jede Pixel-Zeile verschieben
[08:57] <jake_> And if not, I need help installing TinyFugue
[08:57] <titanix88> what's the prob?
[08:57] <llutz> !de |  SubNet
[08:57] <ubotu> SubNet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> llutz: Thanks. I had forgotten weither it was "de" or "ge" for some reason...
[08:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Started to type ge...
[08:58] <jake_> I've unpacked the file, compiled and installed, but for some reason, I am still unable to use the tf command from it's location
[08:59] <titanix88> any error?
[08:59] <jake_> Say's it doesn't recognize the command
[09:00] <titanix88> jake_: a paste plz.
[09:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: "gnome-mud" and "gmoo" are the only graphical MUD clients that show up for me in apt-search
[09:00] <jake_> bash: tf: command not found
[09:01] <titanix88> jake_: maybe ./tf
[09:01] <titanix88> or do what WhtWolfTeraDyne says.
[09:02] <jake_> Alright, I'll try that. I'm a little new to Linux, but I thought a gnome app wouldn't run on a KDE desktop?
[09:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: Any linux app will run on any desktop, as long as the needed libraries are installed.
[09:02] <jake_> or am I getting desktops and kernals mixed up again or something?
[09:03] <Arwen> a GNOME app will not run on a normal KDE desktop
[09:03] <Arwen> but if you install enough parts of GNOME, it will work
[09:03] <titanix88> jake_: i am having a edubuntu+kubuntu mixup.running amarok firefox konsole simutaneously!!
[09:03] <jake_> ah. So, where did you find gnome-mud then? on Adept?
[09:03] <dwidmann> installing that program will drag all its gnome dependencies along with it, so nothing to worry about arwen, jake_
[09:04] <dwidmann> jake_: sure
[09:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: Using a Konsole window, I used "apt-search". It should be in Adept, though.
[09:04] <jake_> I can't find it in adept. I'll try konsole.
[09:05] <jake_> thanks for your help everyone :)
[09:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info gnome-mud
[09:05] <ubotu> gnome-mud: The GNOME MUD client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.7-1build2 (feisty), package size 363 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[09:05] <titanix88> jake_: we don't accept prepaid thnx ;)
[09:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: You need the Universe repositories enabled to get it.
[09:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !repos | jake_
[09:06] <ubotu> jake_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:06] <jake_> Suddenly I remember what I did wrong. I've yet to enable the other ones.
[09:07] <jake_> I've just got the default set up. I've used Kubuntu before but I;m rusty :p
[09:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> O_o; Konsole just exploded on me. No traceback or anything...
[09:07] <titanix88> jake_: sudo apt-get update ???
[09:08] <jake_> Hmm?
[09:09] <Remo_A> sudo sudoku
[09:09] <Remo_A> man -o man
[09:10] <jake_> Hmm... I've activated all of the repertoirs, is this wise?
[09:10] <titanix88> just make sure ur packages list is updated(incase of live cds)
[09:10] <titanix88> wise as me :)
[09:11] <tinin> !midi
[09:11] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:11] <dwidmann> Remo_A: man -k woman
[09:11] <owl> ^^
[09:12] <Remo_A> get string from object
[09:12] <owl> might Remo_A wanna strip a bit? ^^
[09:12] <Remo_A> hehe
[09:13] <jake_> Hmm. I appear to be upgrading Kubuntu itself, so I'll be logging out so I can restart in a moment. I installed from a rather old CD.
[09:14] <jake_> Heh, it's going to take over an hour to download anyway.
[09:14] <jcolvin> Hey you guys
[09:14] <titanix88> jake_: 0_O
[09:14] <jcolvin> Im a newbie and am having problems installing apps
[09:14] <dwidmann> jcolvin: do tell
[09:15] <owl> *sigh* apt-get install empty-trash-can coffee
[09:15] <owl> apt-get clean
[09:15] <owl> i want this for my room
[09:15] <Angelus> can someone help me with the folowwing error please??? http://rafb.net/p/eAh4Ao56.html :|
[09:15] <Angelus> i really need to install this driver for my webcam
[09:15] <jcolvin> im new to linux and dont even know where to start
[09:15] <dwidmann> jake_: how old is rather old, because in that case it may be more efficient to download and burn an iso image.
[09:15] <jcolvin> with installing apps
[09:16] <dwidmann> jcolvin, first place to start should be k-menu -> add/remove programs :)
[09:16] <titanix88> jcolvin : hi
[09:16] <jcolvin> ok
[09:16] <jake_> About a month or so. But I don't think it'll be any quicker to download and burn a fresh iso
[09:16] <jcolvin> the downloaded file looks like this...
[09:16] <jcolvin> sav-linux-6-i386.tgz
[09:17] <dwidmann> jcolvin, not to scare you away or anything, but it looks like you'll have to compile that yourself
[09:17] <jcolvin> oh really
[09:17] <titanix88> jcolvin : try default repository.it's not like windows where u dload a .exe and install it.
[09:18] <dwidmann> titanix88: it's not in the repos, I just checked.
[09:18] <jcolvin> any documentation that would help me so you dont have to explain it all to me
[09:18] <dwidmann> erm, that would be handy, let me check around for that
[09:18] <dwidmann> this will be a good start
[09:19] <dwidmann> !compile
[09:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:20] <jake_> Hehe, because I have a nice fast internet connection, it's only going to take another 20 minutes
[09:21] <Angelus> !webcam
[09:21] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:21] <dwidmann> jake_: typically a dist-upgrade is about 500mb, you said you think you're upgrading, to which version of kubuntu?
[09:22] <jake_> 7.04
[09:24] <dwidmann> jake_: if you're upgrading from something older than edgy, then I wish you luck, they advise against going straight from dapper or edgy (or older versions) to feisty
[09:25] <jake_> This is definitely feisty
[09:25] <jake_> I think I'm just upgrading from an older version of feisty
[09:26] <dwidmann> jake_: just grabbing the small backports and updates that have popped up since it came out then ... I see.
[09:26] <dwidmann> I still have a 122mb download to go on my laptops upgrade to gutsy :(
[09:27] <d0uglas> would someone kindly recommend an imap server for a machine that will be heavy on "public" folders rather than just inboxes? ... ideally something that isn't too tricky to configure
[09:27] <genii> There should be something like DownThemAll for the apt downloads....
[09:29] <dwidmann> genii: closest you'll come is to put 5 mirrors in your sources.list ..... hehehe
[09:29] <genii> dwidmann: I'm getting the glimmering of an idea now though :)
[09:31] <dwidmann> genii: ooh, do tell.
[09:32] <genii> dwidmann: A replacement for whatever apt-get is using to d/l off the mirrors, one that can split the d/l into 5 parts like DTA does for instance
[09:32] <genii> likely wget or get
[09:33] <dwidmann> genii: something like axel maybe?
[09:33] <genii> hmm
[09:34] <genii> Or maybe to cal wget with -c option 5 times etc. but then how to splice...
[09:36] <dwidmann> I noticed something interesting about apt when I installed debian etch a while back ... instead of redownloading the Packages file from the server everytime it uses patches instead. I wonder how long til we get to see this in ubuntu ....
[09:36] <jake_> Is it safe to download packages on adept while the distribution package is also running?
[09:36] <jake_> distribution upgrade*
[09:37] <genii> jake_: no
[09:37] <dwidmann> jake_: it's okay, because it won't let you do anything dangerous
[09:37] <genii> dwidmann: Yes, diffs make much more sense
[09:37] <dwidmann> the apt lock file will stop you.
[09:38] <jake_> Gotcha. Only 5 minutes left on the upgrade anyway. I'm gonna log out, restart and all that fun stuff. Be back in a few.
[09:38] <dwidmann> hope he didn't try to restart while it was still mid-upgrade, oh well.
[09:39] <enry> goodbye
[09:40] <lnx_> what are the best graphical icq clients ( gnome and kde and xfce if there are ) ?
[09:40] <dwidmann> inx_: kopete works well enough for me, gaim/pidgin should work also
[09:40] <hak5fan> I've just installed compiz fusion How can I get it to start when I log in?
[09:40] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, i use kopete for all my IM stuff
[09:41] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , its almost perfect just i doesnt allow me to copy user away message
[09:41] <Mr_Sonoma> hak5fan, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:42] <lnx_> hak5fan , click ALT + F2 and type there "compiz --replace"
[09:42] <hak5fan> Mr_Sonoma: Thanks
[09:42] <genii> AFK experimenting
[09:43] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, it dont let you copy away messages?
[09:43] <hak5fan> lnx_: I've started it like that but I want it to auto start when I log on
[09:44] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , you know what i mean i away message ?
[09:44] <flavia> hi, what do I need to rip mp3s from an audio cd with k3b?
[09:44] <rjune_> k3b doesn't rip mp3s
[09:45] <Mr_Sonoma> hak5fan, there was a wiki i used to have for beryl to add it to your session types when your logging on. but i dont have that bookmarked anymore. like i said #ubuntu-effects should be able to help
[09:45] <rjune_> there's an IO Slave you can use to do it, audiocd:// or some such If I remember right
[09:45] <genii> Bah. Forgot i had a 200Gb hd nfs mounted and did updatedb
[09:46] <rjune_> ouch
[09:46] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, you mean you cant save your away reason/message?? or when you recieve a message while you are away?
[09:47] <flavia> rjune_: I found that it's possible, I suppose I just need some additional library
[09:47] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , no for example some one of my friends have
[09:48] <lnx_> "i will back in 30 mins" , and i want to copy it i cant
[09:48] <flavia> rjune: ok found it, tnx anyway
[09:50] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I create a trashcan on my desktop in kubuntu?
[09:52] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: mspaint? j/k ... anyhow, right click the desktop, create a link to a location, for the location use trash:/ and for the name call it Trash
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> CPrgmSwR2 > create a simple textfile
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> an fill it with: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35702/
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> and name it for.ex trash.desktop
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> dwidmann > that's not enough
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> that isn't indicates the stat of the trash (empty or not)
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> but this does.
[09:53] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, theres the set status message icon looks like a pencil and piece of paper, you can do it there. seems like there's a way to save them too but im not finding it right now.
[09:53] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, but it will use your last away message next time you set your status to away
[09:53] <CPrgmSwR2> MetaMorfoziS: where did you get that information?
[09:53] <Minnozz> I was trying to compile the drivers for my wireless network adapter (RTL8187) and I got this error: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=931
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> from my desktop:)
[09:54] <Minnozz> what do I have to do?
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> But first somewhere from google:)
[09:54] <CPrgmSwR2> ah okay
[09:54] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , im not talking about my status message , see my friend have URL in his status message and i want to copy it to the browser do you under stand what i want todo ?
[09:54] <turazoor> anyone know a good driver download site, so i can download win drivers for ndiswrapper, cos the girlfriend lost the cd
[09:55] <CPrgmSwR2> MetaMorfoziS: Thnx
[09:55] <MetaMorfoziS> np
[09:55] <turazoor> lnx_: y dont u just write it out, its not usually possible
[09:55] <soa2ii> turazoor: still not runningn??
[09:55] <soa2ii> running
[09:55] <turazoor> soa2ii: nope! its going to drive me insane
[09:55] <lnx_> turazoor , waht you mean write it out ?
[09:56] <turazoor> just look at the PM and write it straight into ur browser
[09:56] <soa2ii> lnx_: turazoor searches his driver for his wlan chipset...
[09:56] <soa2ii> i think he uses a broadcom chipset but i do not really know wich particular veriosn...
[09:56] <soa2ii> version...
[09:57] <turazoor> nah its ralink
[09:57] <soa2ii> sure?
[09:57] <turazoor> its the r23 or summit hang on
[09:57] <lnx_> turazoor , :( i know that i can copy it by hand but it slower . . .
[09:57] <soa2ii> hm... turazoor you really should watch for linux drivers first ;)
[09:57] <turazoor> ok
[09:58] <prak> does anyone know how to unlock the database in kubuntu for adept?
[09:58] <soa2ii> go and get some atheros chipsets... then you'll be able to crack some wlans, too ;)
[09:58] <soa2ii> prak: what do you mean?
[09:58] <soa2ii> do you want to add new repositories?
[09:58] <jughead> I took the "auto eth1" line out of my /etc/network/interfaces file in order to decrease boot time - and it worked.  Howecver, knetworkmanager doesn't have options for wireless networks anymore.  How can I fix it?
[09:58] <soa2ii> maybe you should have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <prak> soa2ii: my adept/synaptic crashed and when i reopened it, it asks me to unlock the database
[09:59] <turazoor> ok then peeps! Where the cheapest wlan adaptor thats going to work straight away!
[09:59] <soa2ii> hm... weird...
[10:00] <soa2ii> what do you get if you do "sudo aptitude update" in a console?
[10:01] <soa2ii> and prak?
[10:01] <Minnozz> Does anybody know why linux/config.h can't be found?
[10:01] <soa2ii> no sorry...
[10:01] <llutz> Minnozz: because you haven't installed and configured kernel-sources
[10:01] <soa2ii> has this smth to do with your kernel?
[10:02] <soa2ii> i would have a look at the kernel packages....
[10:02] <soa2ii> linux-src-generic or so...
[10:02] <Minnozz> hmm how can I do that?
[10:02] <soa2ii> open a terminal
[10:03] <soa2ii> and try
[10:03] <soa2ii> aptitude search linux
[10:03] <Minnozz> done
[10:03] <soa2ii> and look for packages with src in its name
[10:03] <llutz> linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[10:03] <soa2ii> yes maybe this one (:
[10:04] <prak> soa2ii: http://pastebin.ca/676123
[10:04] <soa2ii> i'm sorry... i am at my girfriend and just sitting here with my macbook
[10:04] <turazoor> soa2ii: it's the Ralink r73 chipset, the system has set it up, hence i think the presence of RT73usb module in lsmod but its the bloody rt25usb driver thats f**king it up
[10:04] <Minnozz> yes it's in the list
[10:05] <soa2ii> turazoor: sry... i dont have any further ideas right now...
[10:05] <turazoor> soa2ii dat kewl
[10:05] <soa2ii> Minnozz: try th sources then
[10:05] <turazoor> just explaining ova and ova in the hope that someone on here will lol
[10:05] <soa2ii> well prag ill see...
[10:06] <soa2ii> prak: have you already add some new repositories?
[10:06] <prak> no
[10:06] <soa2ii> hm ok
[10:06] <prak> i freshly reinstalled kubuntu a while ago
[10:06] <soa2ii> have you tried dpkg --configure -a ?
[10:06] <Minnozz> soa2ii: you mean aptitude search sources ?
[10:06] <soa2ii> no Minnozz
[10:07] <soa2ii> sudo aptitude install linux-source
[10:07] <soa2ii> and then try to make your module again
[10:08] <Minnozz> thanks a lot
[10:08] <Minnozz> downloading now
[10:08] <soa2ii> Minnozz
[10:08] <soa2ii> you do not knowwheter it works...
[10:08] <llutz> Minnozz: you have to configure the sources and at least to start compiling the kernel. then config.h will be created
[10:08] <soa2ii> wait with your cheers ;)
[10:08] <syst> hello how do i do to join a serveur in french with Konversation
[10:08] <soa2ii> Minnozz: what are you going to install?
[10:08] <llutz> !fr | syst
[10:09] <ubotu> syst: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:09] <Minnozz> soa2ii: driver for my WLAN
[10:09] <soa2ii> what is its name?
[10:09] <syst> thanks a lot
[10:09] <Minnozz> Realtek RTL8187
[10:09] <soa2ii> well i think this one should work fine out of the box.... doesnt it?
[10:10] <Minnozz> i can't connect to my network
[10:10] <Minnozz> timeout while connecting
[10:10] <soa2ii> hm... i'll see... mom
[10:10] <Minnozz> and a friend said i had to install the drivers
[10:11] <Minnozz> this is actually my first day at Linux
[10:11] <soa2ii> Minnozz: have you tried sudo modprobe r818x ?
[10:11] <Minnozz> no, not yet, what's that?
[10:12] <soa2ii> it loads the module for your chipset...
[10:12] <soa2ii> maybe you should try this one first ;)
[10:13] <Minnozz> doesn't give any output, is that right? =\
[10:13] <llutz> Minnozz: no output=no error
[10:13] <Minnozz> but it didn't even ask for my password
[10:13] <soa2ii> moment...
[10:14] <soa2ii> does lsmod | grep 818x offer any output?
[10:14] <Minnozz> yes it does
[10:14] <lysdexia> Hi all. I'm trying to set up a feisty box as a wireless access point. I'm fairly sure the crapulous linksys USB (wusb54g) adapter I have been playing with will not actually do the trick. Is there a list of adapters that can successfully be used in an AP?
[10:14] <soa2ii> fine
[10:14] <soa2ii> lysdexia: are you sure ubuntu is the right OS for setting up an AP?
[10:15] <soa2ii> Minnozz: does you wlan work now?
[10:15] <llutz> lysdexia: use an atheros-chipset. madwifi does the trick in 10 seconds
[10:15] <lysdexia> The adapter works fine if there is an ap in range.
[10:16] <lysdexia> But I can't seem to find info on setting it up as an ap.
[10:16] <lysdexia> brb
[10:16] <Minnozz> it hangs at 28% (activation stage: configuring device) ...
[10:16] <soa2ii> hm....
[10:16] <figdor> hi! i'm noob ^^ i got two problems using kubuntu. first is my screen resolution, its 1024*768 - can i get it higher? second theres my mousesensitivity, it's way to high (already 1.0 in the options) can i get it lower? please. THANKS :)
[10:17] <soa2ii> what does iwconfig say?
[10:17] <soa2ii> figdor: these are all X-Server settings...
[10:17] <turazoor> Calling All Geniuses.................!
[10:17] <soa2ii> you can set you screen resolution directly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <figdor> hmm
[10:18] <figdor> i have to type that in the command menu?
[10:18] <soa2ii> figdor:
[10:18] <soa2ii> try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <waylandbill> turazoor: I'm sure everyone thinks they're a genius. :-D
[10:18] <Minnozz> soa2ii: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=932
[10:19] <waylandbill> figdor: in a konsole
[10:19] <turazoor> waylandbill: well i need a genius, that is actually a genius when it comes to killing things in kubuntu
[10:19] <soa2ii> Minnozz: maybe just restart... windows like :P
[10:19] <waylandbill> turazoor: what's your trouble?
[10:19] <soa2ii> figdor: do ou have your texteditor open?
[10:20] <Minnozz> lol
[10:20] <Minnozz> i'll try
[10:20] <figdor> bash: sudo: command not found
[10:20] <soa2ii> ?? :D
[10:20] <figdor> i can open it?
[10:20] <soa2ii> figdor: open a terminal
[10:20] <soa2ii> like "Konsole"
[10:20] <figdor> ok
[10:20] <llutz> Minnozz: type "iwlist s"
[10:20] <soa2ii> and then type
[10:20] <soa2ii> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:21] <rustalot> KNetworkManager isn't working properly: It doesn't show any wireless networks, even though iwlist scan shows 6.
[10:21] <lysdexia> iwconfig shows the interface, no problem. My problem is not with the device itself as a client, but actually finding a device that will work properly as an access point.
[10:21] <lysdexia> (sorry for the delay)
[10:21] <figdor> hmm
[10:21] <llutz> lysdexia: you need special hardware/drivers which support AP-mode
[10:21] <soa2ii> figdor: ok?
[10:21] <llutz> lysdexia: like madwifi
[10:21] <Minnozz> llutz: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=933
[10:22] <figdor> yeah
[10:22] <soa2ii> fine
[10:22] <figdor> theres alot of
[10:22] <figdor> text :/
[10:22] <lysdexia> Ah. Thanks very much llutz.
[10:22] <phpcode> is there a command that gives me info about the system, system memory ect??
[10:22] <soa2ii> figdor: yes great
[10:22] <soa2ii> go down with ypur curser
[10:22] <llutz> Minnozz: your AP is switched on and works?
[10:22] <soa2ii> until you reach the resolution section
[10:22] <waylandbill> figdor: conf(iguration) files tend to.
[10:22] <Minnozz> it worked an hour ago on windows....
[10:23] <figdor> 2sec
[10:23] <waylandbill> Minnozz: you could try ndiswrapper possibly.
[10:23] <Minnozz> that's the windows driver emulator, right?
[10:23] <llutz> Minnozz: then your driver seems not to work, follow waylandbill
[10:24] <Fusion_> hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. i didn;t have this problem with edgy. thanks
[10:24] <figdor> yeah, section "screen"
[10:24] <lysdexia> Ah. That's got it. I can get it from here. Appreciate the help llutz. (sometimes it just takes the word ... ya know? :-)
[10:24] <soa2ii> figdor: right...
[10:24] <godstorm> i have a ?
[10:24] <godstorm> how can i use the same Sound Card
[10:24] <godstorm> to Listen and Talk On TS
[10:24] <soa2ii> figdor: just add under the depth 24 section the resolution you want
[10:24] <godstorm> ?
[10:24] <figdor> ?
[10:24] <figdor> and that
[10:24] <figdor> is just that?
[10:25] <figdor> and then just close the window?
[10:25] <soa2ii> n
[10:25] <soa2ii> no
[10:25] <soa2ii> strg + x is exit
[10:25] <soa2ii> and you eed to save the file
[10:25] <godstorm> can you help me?
[10:25] <soa2ii> then you have to restart you x-server
[10:26] <soa2ii> figdor: do ou have a second pc there?
[10:26] <figdor> nope
[10:26] <llutz> Minnozz: "sudo rmmod r818x"
[10:26] <soa2ii> figdor: damn...
[10:26] <Minnozz> gives no output
[10:26] <figdor> ?!
[10:26] <llutz> Minnozz: fine
[10:26] <soa2ii> maybe, if you've made a mistake, you get a console on restart...
[10:27] <llutz> Minnozz: you'll need the xp-drivers for ndiswrapper
[10:27] <figdor> wtf
[10:27] <Fusion_> hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. i didn't have this problem with edgy. thanks
[10:27] <soa2ii> just change your things and everything will be fine again... ok?
[10:27] <godstorm> ?
[10:27] <soa2ii> figdor: if you get an error
[10:27] <figdor> my linux is fucked
[10:27] <godstorm> lol
[10:27] <soa2ii> do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf again
[10:27] <Minnozz> llutz: is that hard to install?
[10:27] <llutz> Minnozz: if you speak italian :) http://lucaberna.netsons.org/2007/04/23/ubuntu-festy-ndiswrapper-realtek-rtl-8187-asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/
[10:27] <figdor> ok
[10:27] <llutz> Minnozz: not really
[10:28] <soa2ii> and remove your changes
[10:28] <figdor> gr8
[10:28] <godstorm> any one here?
[10:28] <soa2ii> then everything will like now
[10:28] <figdor> and how do i restart the xserver?
[10:28] <soa2ii> now you can restart your x-server
[10:28] <figdor> how?
[10:28] <soa2ii> logout
[10:28] <figdor> hmm
[10:28] <soa2ii> and choose "restart x-server"
[10:28] <Minnozz> llutz: too bad, only Dutch, English and a little German, French and Latin
[10:28] <soa2ii> from the menu
[10:29] <figdor> can i close the konsole
[10:29] <figdor> ?
[10:29] <soa2ii> yes
[10:29] <soa2ii> i thing nano is away
[10:29] <soa2ii> isnt it?
[10:29] <llutz> Minnozz: important in that link are only the blue-underlayed commands, follow them if you have got your win.drivers ready
[10:29] <Minnozz> llutz: ok i'll try
[10:29] <soa2ii> i hope figdor will be back (:
[10:30] <Minnozz> llutz: do I need to have anything installed before i follow that guide?
[10:30] <llutz> Minnozz: i guess ndiswrapper is already installed
[10:30] <Turazoor> soa2ii: I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:30] <Turazoor> YAY!
[10:30] <soa2ii> Turazoor: yes?
[10:30] <soa2ii> what was it? (:
[10:30] <llutz> Minnozz: otherwise: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[10:31] <Turazoor> i blacklisted rt2570 cos that was what was loading the rt25usb
[10:31] <Turazoor> soa2ii: but now it stalls on connection, trying to configure device lol!
[10:32] <soa2ii> :/
[10:32] <Turazoor> soa2ii: its just problem after problem lol !
[10:32] <soa2ii> yes... linux and wlan...
[10:32] <Turazoor> but at least it aint lagging da system lol!
[10:32] <soa2ii> i hate those restrictive manufactures...
[10:32] <Turazoor> soa2ii: so u reckon belkin have stopped it against use from linux?
[10:33] <soa2ii> figdor is away such a long time... i think he destructs his xorg.conf :(
[10:33] <soa2ii> Turazoor: no not really... but there are "nice" manufactures and those who are not so nice...
[10:33] <Turazoor> ok then
[10:34] <Minnozz> what exactly is gksu
[10:34] <knuffi> hallo
[10:34] <llutz> Minnozz: forget that line
[10:35] <soa2ii> Minnozz: i think some sudo frontend for GNOME
[10:35] <Minnozz> can I just skip it?
[10:35] <llutz> Minnozz: use "sudo nano /etc/...."
[10:35] <soa2ii> Minnozz: where does it appear?
[10:35] <llutz> soa2ii: http://lucaberna.netsons.org/2007/04/23/ubuntu-festy-ndiswrapper-realtek-rtl-8187-asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/
[10:36] <Minnozz> I don't speak Italian so I can't read the comments
[10:36] <llutz> Minnozz: open nano and add a line "blacklist rt8187"
[10:37] <soa2ii> he all... i am sorry but my girlfriend has smth better to do ;)
[10:37] <Minnozz> what's nano?
[10:37] <llutz> soa2ii: let's do her alone
[10:37] <soa2ii> i hope you "understand" ;)
[10:37] <llutz> Minnozz: an editor
[10:37] <soa2ii> llutz: i don't know if that works ;)
[10:37] <soa2ii> Minnozz: nano is like terminal-kate ;)
[10:37] <llutz> Minnozz:"sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[10:38] <llutz> soa2ii: scary IF it works
[10:38] <soa2ii> well... have fun then and greet figdor if he'll be back once ;)
[10:38] <soa2ii> llutz: :P (:
[10:38] <soa2ii> good night
[10:38] <llutz> gn
[10:38] <Minnozz> lol
[10:38] <Minnozz> this explains
[10:39] <llutz> Minnozz: enter above command into a konsole
[10:39] <vc> daaaamn
[10:39] <Minnozz> yeah I did
[10:39] <vc> the OS is sooooo slow now....
[10:39] <Minnozz> they're already blacklisted
[10:39] <Minnozz> that probably why it doesn't work
[10:39] <llutz> Minnozz: fine, CTRL-X to leave
[10:40] <Minnozz> # buggy driver causes kernel BUG on load (Ubuntu: #78255, #88430)
[10:40] <llutz> Minnozz: hehe, known crap
[10:40] <Minnozz> so I can follow the guide from there on?
[10:40] <apocalypto> Hi everyone, quick question. My university has a WPA2 Enterprise with Dynamic WEP type wireless. Knetworkmanager doesnt connect to such networks. Rather I cant specify key type as dynamic WEP. Is there some other *GUI* front end which can be used?
[10:41] <sk1t3lles> Hi I am looking to setup a basic firewall for kubuntu like i want to block X11 ports, disable source routing, icmp packets, syn and smurf attacks, can anyone point me to a site that offers information on doing this for kubuntu or ubuntu
[10:41] <llutz> Minnozz: follow from "ndiswrapper..." after you got the win.driver unpacked to a directory
[10:42] <Minnozz> llutz: do I need win98 driver?
[10:43] <llutz> Minnozz: win98 or xp
[10:43] <Minnozz> good
[10:43] <llutz> Minnozz: i'm not sure, never used ndiswrapper myself
[10:43] <Minnozz> because there is no 98
[10:43] <figdor> wheres that dude that helped me before
[10:43] <llutz> figdor: he has to do a hard job in real-life
[10:43] <Fusion_> hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. thanks
[10:43] <cbtis155> hola atodos , decasualidad alguien abla espaol
[10:44] <llutz> !es | cbtis155
[10:44] <ubotu> cbtis155: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:44] <figdor> hmm
[10:44] <figdor> its just
[10:44] <figdor> i made a change in the
[10:44] <figdor> config?
[10:44] <cbtis155> gracias
[10:44] <figdor> now i can boot two of the same OS'
[10:44] <figdor> before there was only one
[10:44] <figdor> and its veeeeery slow now
[10:49] <Turazoor> can anyone help!
[10:49] <Turazoor> i have some source gzs
[10:49] <buti> hi.
[10:50] <Turazoor> being a noob to linux, i'm not quite sure what to do with em, i need to use ndiswrapper for my wlan card, but wot do i do lol
[10:50] <apocalypto> Please help. Is there a way I could connect to a wireless connection that has WPA2 Enterprise with Dynamic WEP? I want a GUI tool
[10:50] <buti> how can i help improve (k)ubuntu for the macbookpro3
[10:52] <lnx_> someone know how to print in kubuntu with CANON PIXMA IP1500 ?
[10:57] <blackchaos> can sum 1 give me the command so that i can be able 2 edit my grub boot menu list
[10:58] <llutz> blackchaos: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <blackchaos> k thx alot
[10:58] <drif> blackchaos: or kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <Turazoor> hi peeps.... what this mean
[10:58] <Turazoor>     4. Check your install (load module, bring interface up and scan):
[10:58] <Turazoor>         # modprobe rt73 [debug=<mask>
[10:59] <Turazoor> what is the debug all about?
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: thats all it gave you?
[10:59] <go11um> Hi everybody
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: and as well... is that a manual page, or a error message?
[11:00] <go11um> may i ask a question about wifi ?
[11:00] <Turazoor> thats a manual
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> hey go11um
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> go ahead
[11:00] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: it's part of a manual for setting up wlan rt73 source files!
[11:00] <go11um> i ve kubuntu feisty with a wag311 (atheros AR5212 a/b/G)
[11:00] <prak> does anyone know how to mount a new external hard drive?
[11:01] <prak> that's already formatted?
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: ah ok... first you have to modprobe the kernel module with the command "sudo modprobe rt73"
[11:01] <Turazoor> ah ha
[11:01] <Turazoor> *huh#
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: and the run "iwconfig and see if it sees your device
[11:01] <go11um> if i stop to use my wifi connexion for 5 minutes then no more surf.
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: # ussually means "run as root" in manual files
[11:01] <go11um> KNetworkmanager seems connected
[11:02] <Turazoor> kk i get nothing back after running sudo modp....
[11:02] <blackchaos> is there a notepad in kubuntu so that i can backup the original grub menu list just in case
[11:02] <Turazoor> is that normal?
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> go11um: it just dies on you?
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> go11um: or doesn't work at all?
[11:02] <go11um> but no more surf. till i refresh x time mye web page and then, knetwork manager reconnect
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: thats good. :)
[11:03] <Turazoor> then
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> blackchaos: kate?
[11:03] <Turazoor> iwconfig right
[11:03] <go11um> yep
[11:03] <go11um> all is ok as i was connected
[11:03] <blackchaos> is that the name of it?
[11:03] <go11um> disable ipv6
[11:03] <go11um> change nsswitch to file dns
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: in Linux... generally the less feedback, the better.
[11:04] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: if i run iwconfig, wlan0 is there
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> blackchaos: yeah.
[11:04] <blackchaos> kk
[11:04] <blackchaos> thx
[11:04] <brs> hi a--
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: good! run "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[11:04] <apocalypto> WPA2 Enterprise Dynamic WEP wireless support possible in kubuntu?
[11:04] <prak> does anyone know how to mount a new external hard drive that's already formatted?
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> hey brs
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> apocalypto: WEP for sure.. WPA should work too
[11:05] <brs> WPA no problem
[11:05] <Turazoor> thats the feedback:    wlan0     No scan results
[11:05] <lnx_> someone know how to print in kubuntu with CANON PIXMA IP1500 ?
[11:05] <ivan300> does anyone here has kubuntu installe?
[11:06] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: the other thing it says is run is ifconfig wlan0 up but that produces wlan0     No scan results
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: most of us do
[11:07] <Turazoor> **** no sorry that produces SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: you can see your AP in windows?
[11:07] <Turazoor> yep
[11:07] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: can you help me make it run??
[11:07] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: knetworkmanager is saying it can see anything either
[11:08] <apocalypto> @nosrednaekim: It doesnt.. My univ uses WPA2 Enterprose with Dynamic WEP. I cant specify Dynamic WEP as keytype in knetworkmanager. The option is there in nm-applet
[11:08] <go11um> could'u help me ??
[11:09] <jake__> Wheee. it's me again. Thanks for your help earlier everyone. I'm finally upgraded and back in action :)
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: you want to install?
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> apocalypto: oh.. dynamic WEP. IDK.
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: you have to run ifconfig commands as root
[11:10] <Turazoor> ok
[11:10] <joseph1110216> i set u a network on windows, how do i get rid of it now?
[11:10] <go11um> ok so no solution for my wifi issue.....
[11:10] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: no i got it installed and i can open the configurator but it wont run i dont know how to make it run and make the effects take place
[11:11] <brs> gollum - whats your issue? didnt get it
[11:11] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: still showing no access points
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: is this a laptop?
[11:11] <apocalypto> @nosrednaekim: Thanks anyways. nm-applet works in KDE as well. But it doesnt remember my settings. I have to type it everytime
[11:11] <go11um> have an issue with an atheros AR5212 pci board
[11:11] <brs> ok
[11:11] <go11um> it's not a laptop....
[11:11] <brs> whats the prob?
[11:11] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: no desktop
[11:12] <jake__> Hmm. I love Adept package manager.
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: I was thinking wireless swtiches.. but OK.
[11:12] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: the wlan is usb
[11:12] <go11um> if i use my connexion no probs... but if i stop to use my wifi connexion for 5 minutes then no more surf
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> oh.... usb. is it known to be suported?
[11:12] <brs> hmmm
[11:12] <go11um> knetwork manager is connected
[11:12] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: yep
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: oh.. you want beryl?
[11:13] <go11um> if i refresh x time a web page then knetwork manager reconnect to my ap
[11:13] <brs> it stays connected but no traffic goes through?
[11:13] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: i got compiz fusion
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor:ok.. is there a tutorial somehwere for that cipset?
[11:13] <go11um> yrp
[11:13] <go11um> yep
[11:13] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: i just wanna run it
[11:13] <go11um> i have disabled thipv6
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> !compiz | ivan300
[11:13] <ubotu> ivan300: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:13] <brs> ok
[11:14] <go11um> and modified nsswitch hosts entry to file dns
[11:14] <brs> i had a very similar problem on my laptop
[11:14] <brs> turned out to be a setting on the router though
[11:14] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: yes i used it for install but i cant run it with compiz --replace
[11:14] <go11um> yep i can understand that on a laptop
[11:14] <brs> what router or ap is it?
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: what video card do you have?
[11:15] <go11um> it a french ap FREEBOX
[11:15] <go11um> i'm using WPA TKIP/AES
[11:15] <brs> ok, never came across one of these
[11:15] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: i dont know, u can try looking is u wish, its a ralink rt73 chipset
[11:15] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: ati radeon xpress 200 i did run it on ubuntu but im new to kubuntu
[11:15] <brs> i used a workaround then
[11:15] <brs> until i figured it out
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: ah ok. you need XGL to get that running.
[11:16] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: it's the Belkin 54g USB Network adaptor F5D7050 rev/version 3001uk
[11:16] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: got it
[11:16] <brs> sort of a keep alive signal
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: did you log in in a XGL session?
[11:16] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: yes
[11:16] <brs> but of course thats no solution
[11:16] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: be back in a sec ill make sure
[11:16] <go11um> yep its not a solution
[11:17] <brs> did you check if there are any settings on the ap that could cuse this
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: what happens when you run compiz --replace?
[11:17] <brs> cause
[11:17] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: nothing
[11:17] <go11um> it's like an energy saving mode
[11:17] <brs> sounds like it
[11:17] <brs> but wasnt with me
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: if you run it from the console..it must spit out some errors..
[11:17] <brs> thats what i thought first
[11:17] <go11um> it's not the ap !!
[11:17] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: found a sort of manual to installation here: http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html
[11:18] <brs> it works fine under another OS?
[11:18] <go11um> my wife is actually using kubuntu and me im on windows XP
[11:18] <brs> ah, ic
[11:18] <go11um> i've no issue with my ap
[11:18] <brs> so xp it works fine then?
[11:18] <go11um> but my wife not
[11:18] <go11um> yes !
[11:18] <ivan300> ok w8
[11:18] <brs> ok
[11:18] <go11um> it's not the ap
[11:18] <brs> i see ;)
[11:19] <go11um> actually no more surf from kubuntu
[11:19] <go11um> but for me its ok
[11:19] <brs> hmmm
[11:19] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: ok im gonna call it a night, i've spent all day doing this!
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: ok. :)
[11:20] <brs> really strange thing with a desktop
[11:20] <go11um> yes
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> g'day mate!
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: we'll be around when you want to try again
[11:20] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: kk cheers
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: hey.. hows it going?
[11:20] <jcolvin> I need some help!
[11:20] <brs> wait a moment
[11:20] <jcolvin> Im a newbie and keep getting an error
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> not too bad, loving the lappy, though there are a few things that could have been a little better thought out
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: what's the error?
[11:20] <elite101> hello
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> and is there smoke emanating from your pc?
[11:21] <elite101> :P what?
[11:21] <jcolvin> it reads...The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: lol... manchicken loves his System76... hates dell ;)
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> lol
[11:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> o_O...   let's take a look at this, shall we?
[11:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> !aptfix
[11:21] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> perhaps
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[11:22] <brs> gollum - u speak french?
[11:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: did either of the commands it suggested help?  (bear in mind you have to preface them with sudo to run with superuser priveleges.
[11:22] <go11um> yep