[00:00] <chutney> otak, at first impression, a video card problem?
[00:01] <otak> yes its a nvidia in a compaq presario
[00:01] <chutney> which nvidia driver are you using otak?
[00:01] <Beldar> otak, missing graphic driver in ubuntu possibly, vista would be ##windows
[00:02] <chutney> otak, if you are having problems in windows vista too, it might be a hardware problem
[00:02] <otak> yes I was putting off asking there, it's my friend's laptop, just gathering clues
[00:03] <Beldar> otak, slitaz runs in X however
[00:03] <otak> slitaz seems like a framebuffer
[00:04] <Beldar> otak, Is the ubuntu a live environment or a install? use nicks here.
[00:04] <otak> Beldar: it's a live usb
[00:04] <Beldar> otak, You familiar with nomodeset?
[00:05] <Beldar> or failsafe x on a install
[00:05] <otak> yes but i did not know when to add it without grub
[00:05] <Beldar> otak, I live hot f6 at the first gui.
[00:05] <Beldar> hit*
[00:06] <Beldar> otak, Might be hardware but you can check that at least if you like.
[00:07] <otak> Beldar: thanks I'm trying it now
[00:11] <oz0ne> after blacklisting a driver with adding "install module /bin/false" wll you still need to update initramfs?
[00:12] <nallison19> question is this the best room to be in for a error message question?
[00:12] <nallison19> an error*
[00:13] <sam113101> nallison19: what is it about?
[00:13] <nallison19> hi sam I have a zareason laptop with an internal data pool error related to my blu-ray/DVD optical drive
[00:14] <nallison19> I am running ubuntu 13.10 saucy and have already run a command in terminal for relevant info
[00:14] <sam113101> well yes, you're in the right channel
[00:14] <nallison19> cool beans
[00:15] <sam113101> what's your problem? what is the exact error message you're getting?
[00:15] <sam113101> (you can use http://pastie.org to paste it)
[00:15] <nallison19> internal data pool error msg after DVD playback
[00:17] <jhutchins> nallison19: Was the playback satisfactory?
[00:18] <nallison19> nope the error occured during play back
[00:18] <nallison19> ran sudo lswh -c disk during playback
[00:18] <nallison19> no real helpful info was given
[00:19] <nallison19> brb
[00:20] <nallison19> also btw the DVD/BLU ray optical drive has been replaced already by Zareason
[00:20] <nallison19> so I hope this is not a hardware issue
[00:21] <jhutchins> nallison19: An obvious thing to check is to try several discs.
[00:22] <nallison19> I have tried 2 DVD's one with an issue one without, I should try to watch the whole DVD that worked
[00:22] <nallison19> is there a way I could see a message log while watching my DVD
[00:22] <nallison19> of what is going with the hardware
[00:22] <nallison19> ?
[00:22] <jhutchins> what player are you using?
[00:24] <nallison19> cdrom        description: DVD-RAM writer        product: BD-RE BT20N
[00:24] <nallison19> vendor: HL-DT-ST        physical id: 0.0.0        bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0        logical name: /dev/cdrom        logical name: /dev/sr0
[00:25] <jhutchins> nallison19: I meant what software.
[00:25] <nallison19> ok sorry VLC and totem
[00:26] <nallison19> but let's simply and say totem
[00:26] <jhutchins> nallison19: Try mplayer; try launching them from a terminal.  This will allow any messages to be displayed.
[00:26] <jhutchins> nallison19: I pretty much expect totem to fail.
[00:26] <nallison19> ok
[00:27] <jhutchins> nallison19: vlc might have options to display more verbose messages as it runs (from terminal).
[00:27] <jhutchins> nallison19: mplayer will definitely give you feedback.
[00:27] <brontosaurusrex> or use cvlc
[00:27] <nallison19> what is the best way to launch from mplayer in the terminal cd to the destination then  ./star mplayer?
[00:27] <walterwoj> Does some one have a minute to helpme with a 'no space left on device' error?  I have terminal access only atm.
[00:28] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: it's pretty self-explanatory
[00:28] <nallison19> yeah walter you have dibs I got to go anyways
[00:28] <gordonjcp> you've run out of disk space
[00:28] <nallison19> I appreciate the help jhut
[00:29] <jhutchins> nallison19: brontosaurusrex Is right, you might need cvlc to run it from the console.
[00:29] <jhutchins> nallison19: manpages will give you the syntax to launch.
[00:29] <brontosaurusrex> maybe cvlc --help | grep dvd
[00:30] <brontosaurusrex> but in any case, just use mplayer or mplayer2
[00:30] <nallison19> ok
[00:30] <nallison19> will do
[00:30] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: can you give some more details?
[00:32] <walterwoj> gordonjcp: You would think so but 'du -sh' says the drive is at 93%  and I should haf 600mb free right now.
[00:33] <Beldar> walterwoj, There are different camps on this but some say over 70% is to much
[00:33] <jrib> walterwoj: that probably means you have some program using a file you have deleted.  Or perhaps space is reserved for root.  We can only guess without actual terminal output available
[00:34] <Myrth> hi, is it possible to install a package with latest version of a minor. for example something like php5~5.4 that would install 5.4.22~blah
[00:34] <jrib> Myrth: why?
[00:34] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: are you sure you're checking the correct device?
[00:34] <skraito> goodbye freenode 0x71 (xc) Our http://www.0x71.org move to efnet server now at channel ##0x71 , find us there if you want to talk to us
[00:34] <walterwoj> I have terminal access what should I run?
[00:34] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: pastebin the command you typed and the error message *verbatim*
[00:34] <Myrth> jrib: because i've upgraded and one of the extension doesn't work, because it doesn't have library for 5.5 available
[00:35] <jrib> skraito: please don't make off-topic announcements in this channel.  Thanks
[00:35] <Myrth> jrib: so now i need to downgrade
[00:35] <Guest22282> hey, I have windows 7 and tried to install ubuntu with wubi and windows still works but the ubuntu install didnt and I dont know how to fix it
[00:35] <jrib> Myrth: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION   will install version VERSION of package PACKAGE.  But I'm somewhat confused.  Are you using official repositories?
[00:36] <jrib> walterwoj: you could also be out of inodes.
[00:36] <jrib> walterwoj: what do you want to do next?  You need to make space on your drive
[00:36] <Guest22282> me?
[00:36] <Beldar> Guest22282, You can remove wubi in add remove of windows, wubi is hardly supported, justa a file in windows and rarely advised unless that is te only option.
[00:36] <Beldar> the*
[00:36] <Guest22282> oh alright thanks alot
[00:37] <walterwoj> I store every thin on another drive.  The only files there are operating system files.
[00:37] <walterwoj> jrib how do I check my inodes?
[00:37] <jrib> walterwoj: df -i
[00:37] <Guest22282> how could I install ubuntu? I have a 80gig flashdrive but its full of pictures and I cant reformat it, and I cant burn cds?
[00:37] <walterwoj> (I shouldn't have that many files)
[00:37] <Myrth> jrib: i do have ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej
[00:38] <jrib> Guest22282: buy a usb stick or ask a friend to burn a cd?
[00:38] <Beldar> Guest22282, Have a disc or usb is an important tool if installed for any OS.
[00:38] <Myrth> jrib: to install PACKAGE=VERSION i need to know exact version available, is it possible to list which versions i can use?
[00:38] <jrib> Myrth: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[00:39] <Guest22282> hmm alright, but with usb how do I get it to boot from the usb? like I actually tried to boot from the 80 gig and figured it had to be the only file on it
[00:39] <Guest22282> (cuz it didnt work)
[00:39] <Beldar> Guest22282, Use a virtual till you have the right tools.
[00:39] <Myrth> jrib: i see 5.5.6 and 5.3.10 - original sources didn't upgrade to 5.4?
[00:40] <jrib> Myrth: I don't know anything about your ppa
[00:40] <Myrth> jrib: looks like standard packages is 5.3.10
[00:40] <Guest22282> alright thx
[00:40] <walterwoj> gordonjcp: http://pastebin.com/JzRvdVu7
[00:41] <jrib> Myrth: what ubuntu version?
[00:41] <Myrth> jrib: 12.04
[00:41] <jrib> !info php5 precise
[00:42] <walterwoj> jrib: You nailed it. /dev/sda1 is at 100% usage!
[00:42] <jrib> Myrth: that seems correct.
[00:42] <Myrth> jrib: thanks
[00:42] <jrib> walterwoj: of inodes?
[00:42] <walterwoj> jrib: What can I do to fix that?
[00:43] <skraito> last message
[00:43] <skraito> goodbye freenode 0x71 (xc) Our http://www.0x71.org move to efnet server now at channel ##0x71 , find us there if you want to talk to us
[00:43] <walterwoj> jrib: Yes, somehow I'm at 100% inode usage!
[00:44] <jrib> walterwoj: you should figure out why you have so many files :)
[00:44] <walterwoj> jrib: how do I find out 'where' I have somany files?
[00:44] <jrib> walterwoj: not sure what your best approach is.
[00:44] <jrib> walterwoj: start with: ls -l /
[00:47] <Random832> walterwoj: in various directories type "find . | wc -l" - start with each sub of the root directory
[00:47] <walterwoj> jrib: What am i looking for in the output?
[00:47] <jrib> walterwoj: you're trying to figure out where you have lots of files
[00:48] <Myrth> jrib: i know that ppa is installed,  but i can't find it in sources.list - where else can it be?
[00:48] <zykotick9> walterwoj: just wondering, was the partition that's full - been resized at some point?  (particularily, was it expanded)
[00:48] <Myrth> jrib: never mind, found
[00:49] <jrib> zykotick9: good point
[00:49] <walterwoj> zykotick9: No, it's the opsys partition (10gb) on a 1 tb drive, the other partition is my seed box storage)
[00:49] <walterwoj> I partitioned it that way from the begining
[00:49] <jrib> i would guess some program doing crazy logging
[00:50] <zykotick9> walterwoj: sorry, this was 10GB and now it's 1TB?
[00:50] <Random832> zykotick9: no, he's saying it was 10GB and it's still 10GB
[00:50] <zykotick9> Random832: :) ok...
[00:51] <Random832> walterwoj: run this command
[00:51] <Random832> sudo -v; for i in *; do echo -n $i ' '; sudo find $i | wc -l; done
[00:51] <Random832> in the root directory, sorry, cd / first
[00:52] <walterwoj> random832: 'sudo find . | wc -l' gives me '953169'
[00:52] <Random832> walterwoj: check it in each subdirectory
[00:52] <Random832> try it in /usr first
[00:52] <Random832> my /usr is 112245 and is the largest
[00:52] <Random832> also try /home
[00:55] <fishcooker> i've installed transmission-cli but there is not ~/.config/transmission-cli here
[00:55] <walterwoj> "/storage is the biggest at 338991 (thats the seed partition)
[00:55] <walterwoj> /usr is 393539
[00:55] <walterwoj> /proc is 36475
[00:55] <walterwoj> /home is 87374"
[00:55] <FloodBot1> walterwoj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <walterwoj> sorry!
[00:56] <Random832> walterwoj: my entire system is like 200K total, so just keep looking at subdirectories that still have a ridiculously high number
[00:56] <Rexter> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 on a Dell Vostro 220s with an intel integrated graphics card. The problem I have it it shows the Monitor as unknown, and the resolution can be set no higher than 1024X768.
[00:56] <Random832> ok /storage isn't part of it
[00:56] <tnfnsexe> HOW DEEP MUST I GO
[00:56] <Random832> walterwoj: check subdirectories of /usr
[00:56] <walterwoj> ok
[00:56] <ocavid>  /msg NickServ identify honoca03
[00:56] <tnfnsexe> I NEED AN IDEA HOW FAR AWAY FROM HARDWARE I AM TO DECIDE IF IT IS BETTER TO ATTEMPT TO COME FROM HARDWARE UP
[00:56] <Random832> my /usr is like 112K, so 393K is pretty big
[00:57] <walterwoj> "usr/share" is 100k+
[00:57] <walterwoj> "usr/src is 200k+
[00:57] <Duel-Travis> Anyone know why my Ubuntu Install is taking so long? Its been on Creating EXt4 file system for / in partion #2 for a long time
[00:57] <Random832> what all do you have in /usr/src?
[00:57] <maestrojed> This is barely an ubuntu question but maybe someone can help me or point me to a better place: I built an Ubuntu Server in a  Virtual Machine with VirtualBox. I want it to be a local web server. Now I want to use my native OS's browser to view the http output of that server but I can't get it to work. I tried looking at the ubuntu machine's local IP which is <IP_ADDRESS> and visiting http://<IP_ADDRESS> on the naive machine's browser
[00:57] <maestrojed>  but no go.
[00:57] <walterwoj> Duel-Travis: How long?
[00:57] <Rexter> Duel-Travis, how long is "Too long"?
[00:57] <Duel-Travis> walterwoj, Probably like 15 min
[00:58] <Random832> both of those are a lot compared to mine
[00:58] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; depending on the size of the partition, that's not so bad.
[00:58] <Random832> walterwoj: pastebin ls /usr/src
[00:58] <walterwoj> Duel-Travis: Give it another 15, It can be slow depending on you disk size.
[00:58] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Okay. Im just re installing Ubuntu because my Windows is corrupted.
[00:59] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; a bad HD, or bad Ram ship may have cause the corrupt Windows, as well as the problem you are now having.
[00:59] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, I did get some HDD Disk Errors :/ Hard to replace a hard drive?
[01:00] <walterwoj> Random832: http://pastebin.com/sZpJ3cSi
[01:00] <walterwoj> It's full of headers
[01:00] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; Ram Chip, not ship :)
[01:00] <wolfspy^> what does system load average mean?
[01:00] <wolfspy^> right now mine is 2.05, and that sounds kinda high
[01:00] <wolfspy^> I have a 4 core proccessor though
[01:00] <Random832> walterwoj: that's... a lot of versions
[01:01] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Is it hard to replace a hard drive? Or what should I do
[01:01] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; no, it's a simple swap out. laptop or Desktop?
[01:01] <Random832> walterwoj: sudo apt-get remove 'linux-headers-.*'
[01:01] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Laptop
[01:02] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; wait another 15 min before you give up on it, but check for the bottom of the laptop for an anness door.
[01:02] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Amness door?
[01:02] <nariamm> I needed help connecting my printer on ubuntu
[01:03] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; it's cold in here! "access door"
[01:03] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Im sorry Idk what you mean..
[01:03] <pero> gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11 has been terrorizing my system - it seems that's its creating ~5m/s of i/o for over 10 minutes now
[01:04] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; what hd errors?
[01:04] <walterwoj> Random832: I got a page worth of ' is not installed, so not removed' on that command.
[01:04] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, It just said like I need to check my administrator to see if I need a new hard drive
[01:04] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Said windows detects a hard drive problem
[01:05] <pero> Duel-Travis: you can check the check of your hard drive using the Disks utility
[01:05] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; yea, that's a SMART error comming from the drive. 95% you'll have to replace it.
[01:05] <Random832> walterwoj: doesn't matter, just let it remove what it does find
[01:05] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Damm. Idk what drive i need or whatever I only have 22$ on my amazon.
[01:06] <pero> Duel-Travis: open Disks in dash then click the Settings icon in the top right corner on the drive you want to examine and click SMART
[01:06] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; what size drive?
[01:06] <walterwoj> Random832: It removed nothing...
[01:06] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, My current is 500gb
[01:07] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; SATA?
[01:07] <Random832> walterwoj: that's weird
[01:07] <Random832> are you sure you typed it in right?
[01:07] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Im guessing
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> hey guys
[01:07] <FloodBot1> asued00: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <Duel-Travis> pero, It says Overall Assessment DISK IS LIKELY TO FAIL SOON
[01:08] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; pero had a good suggestion. Boot to the live system, and use the disk utility to check it.
[01:08] <walterwoj> is it safe to delete those files outright?
[01:08] <Random832> walterwoj: just rm -r all of them but the ones with the highest version number then i guess
[01:08] <pero> Duel-Travis: well, there you go
[01:08] <Duel-Travis> Rexter,  well.. :/
[01:08] <Random832> yeah, they're just header files - you need the latest one to compile modules, but older versions tend to build up
[01:08] <Random832> as you update your system
[01:08] <pero> Duel-Travis: today is cyber monday so you can likely find a good deal
[01:08] <Duel-Travis> What should I buy
[01:08] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; you can pick up a 250-500GB used drive on ebay for $20 or so, but you don't know the condition you will get.
[01:08] <asued00> which OS you better recommend, ubuntu, gentoo or dibian?
[01:09] <Rexter> asued00; right tool for the right job.
[01:09] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, I only have 22$ or so on amazon. Think I can get one?
[01:09] <Rexter> Duel-Travis, yea, used.
[01:09] <asued00> got you @rexter
[01:09] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, On amazon?
[01:10] <Rexter> Duel-Travis, yes sellers on Amazon have used stuff.
[01:11] <Rexter> asud00, also a silly question to ask in an ubuntu chat room. I think most people here are partial to ubuntu. ;)
[01:11] <Duel-Travis> pero, http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Monday/b/ref=cm2013_bunk_frame2?ie=UTF8&node=5550342011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-B1&pf_rd_r=1BAB3CWFSJSTPSHA3BR5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1682739962&pf_rd_i=507846 where should I look?
[01:11] <gordonjcp> Rexter: IRC channel, not "chat room"
[01:11] <Rexter> gordonjcp; piss off ;)
[01:12] <pero> it sounds like you're tight on cash so i'd get the best 7200rpm hdd that your money can buy
[01:12] <pero> do you have a laptop?
[01:12] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, What size drive should I look for?
[01:12] <Duel-Travis> pero, Okay I will look
[01:12] <Rexter> Dyel-Travis;  pero, agree...
[01:13] <asued00> does my mac 2.3 GHz intel core i5 4gb of ram support ubuntu 64 bit?
[01:13] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Would this work? o.0 http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-WD800BB-7200RPM-Drive/dp/B00005LLY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386033184&sr=8-1&keywords=80gb+hdd
[01:13] <otak> thanks Beldar and chutney, nomodeset works on the live usb, I'll get back on the case tomorrow
[01:13] <Phoenixz> Hey, running ubuntu 13.10, I am trying to install teamviewer and its a bloody mess...
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> hi
[01:14] <Phoenixz> Anybody who could help? I've tried the dpkg --add-architecture i386, no help, not working
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> is there an amazon instant video app for ubuntu?
[01:14] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; no that's EIDE, not SATA, it's also a 3.5 ' desktop drive
[01:14] <bigP> Anybody have experience with Apple Imac + ubuntu
[01:14] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, I got no clue what im looking for.
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> bigP, me
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> bigP, what do you need help with
[01:15] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Im probably not going to have enough
[01:15] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sata+2.5+used&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Asata+2.5+used
[01:15] <bigP> Basically ive booted into a live CD environment but my bluetooth apple keyboard + mouse are non responsive, they worked in the boot menu
[01:15] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST9120823AS-Momentus-ATA-300-Internal/dp/B0061YIWGI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1386033294&sr=8-8&keywords=sata+2.5+used
[01:16] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Would that do? And What should I install on it?
[01:16] <Phoenixz> Has anybody ever managed to install teamviewer on kubuntu 13.10? this is my second try, on a second machine, and its just plain impossible
[01:16] <jrib> Phoenixz: you should say what you are doing and what exactly is happening
[01:17] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; 120GB is small, but you got to do what you got to do in your budget.
[01:17] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Dude I dont have enough for it. The difference is 1$ lol
[01:17] <linuxuz3r> bigp did you read the help pages when you install ubuntu on your imac
[01:17] <pero> 120gb is plenty - you need <10gb for ubuntu
[01:18] <Phoenixz> jrib: Install teamviewer 8 deb... dpkg -i teamviewer.deb file, that fails due to missing deps, okay, sudo apt-get install -f, that fails because lib32asound2 and a few others are not available.. on google, I found that  dpkg --add-architecture i386 should be the solution, so I did that, no results, same failure..
[01:18] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; just an example, look harder. I just glanced for you.
[01:18] <jrib> Phoenixz: why aren't you using the teamspeak-client package from the repositories?
[01:18] <bigP> linuxuz3r i came across a few guides but i cannot follow any of them as i need a working keboard + mouse in order to follow
[01:18] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Will you still be here?
[01:18] <sponzor> hi i aded this lines to vsftpd.conf http://pastebin.com/vVsYserB and after restarting vsftpd it wont work anymore.. how to debug .conf file to see where is error?
[01:18] <Phoenixz> jrib: can I share my desktop with that, like with teamviewer?
[01:19] <jrib> Phoenixz: I don't know.
[01:19] <bigP> linuxuz3r also im not trying to install i just wanted to run Live
[01:19] <Phoenixz> jrib: well, then I guess thats why :)
[01:19] <jrib> Phoenixz: why would my knowledge of a feature make you not use a package?
[01:19] <Phoenixz> jrib: the other side has teamviewer ready...
[01:20] <jrib> Phoenixz: sorry.  I somehow read your question as "teamspeak" not *viewer*
[01:20] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, What is the lowest GB I should go?
[01:20] <linuxuz3r> bigp if it is not working try using a usb kb m
[01:21] <jrib> Phoenixz: so what happens when you try to install lib32asound2 ?
[01:21] <Phoenixz> ok, what is a good desktop sharing thing in ubuntu then?
[01:21] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; I have used drives. I'd hook you up with a 250GB, but you'd have to pay with a CC. I don't have them on Amazon. I run a PC repair shop
[01:21] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Crap man. Im not even old enough for a CC yet lol.
[01:22] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; are you in the US?
[01:22] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Yea
[01:22] <Phoenixz> jrib: E: Package 'lib32asound2' has no installation candidate
[01:22] <jrib> Phoenixz: why aren't you using the 64bit package of teamviewer?
[01:23] <Phoenixz> jrib: I did...
[01:23] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; well talk to Mom, or Dad. Contact me on Facebook if you want to but a drive from me. https://www.facebook.com/pchomepros
[01:23] <jrib> Phoenixz: it's called "teamviewer.deb"?
[01:23] <Phoenixz> jrib: teamviewer 64 bits is just 32bits anyway...
[01:23] <Phoenixz> teamviewer_linux_x64.deb
[01:23] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, How much would it be?
[01:23] <topper4125> !vnc | Phoenixz
[01:23] <Phoenixz> it STILL requires these 32 bit libraries
[01:24] <jrib> Phoenixz: the more specific you are, the easier it is to help you
[01:24] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; $20 I'll even pay shipping.
[01:24] <walterwoj> Thanks everyone, I now have only 54% of Inodes used!
[01:24] <Phoenixz> topper4125: I need to do this with a noob on the other end.. getting teamviewer to install on his 12.04 is nearly impossible already..
[01:24] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Is there a way we can PM on here?
[01:24] <jrib> Phoenixz: anyway, you should probably just go complain to teamviewer because those packages don't exist anymore (lib32* et al
[01:25] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; sure
[01:25] <jrib> Phoenixz: do the multi-arch packages have the same deps?
[01:25] <ocavid> any info about unkown graphics device
[01:25] <Phoenixz> jrib: that does not help me now..
[01:25] <jrib> Phoenixz: use the multi-arch package
[01:25] <Phoenixz> topper4125: I'm with a total noob on the other end here... getting teamviewer installed on his  12.04 side was nearly impossible
[01:26] <Phoenixz> jrib: which do you mean?
[01:26] <jrib> Phoenixz: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[01:26] <jrib> Phoenixz: "multi-arch"
[01:26] <jrib> --
[01:26] <eN_Joy> a memory usage question: i used to have 4GB total, 2GB used, now i have 3GB used, i don't recall since when my mem usage has increased, or what new service/package has caused, since it has been few monthes until i noticed the change, what would be the most efficient way to find out what the real cause was? thanks
[01:26] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; fried request the admin, that's me.
[01:26] <jrib> eN_Joy: top
[01:26] <ocavid> i have setup my graphics using nvidia settings to generate xorg.conf but it seems not working, when i look at the system settings info says graphics unkown
[01:26] <eN_Joy> jrib: i found out the info via top
[01:27] <jrib> eN_Joy: top tells you the process using memory
[01:27] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, done
[01:27] <Gabboz> Hi.  12.04 server.  I got this message on a few servers "*** /dev/sda2 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***"  My question is what makes the OS determine this is required?  The box hasn't crashed.  Thanks.
[01:27] <topper4125> Phoenixz, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx about 2/3rd down the page is answers your question (hopefully)
[01:28] <Phoenixz> yes, I already tried that.. dpkg --add-architecture i386  not working
[01:28] <jrib> Phoenixz: what does "not working" mean?...
[01:29] <Phoenixz> jrib: It means: exactly the same problem
[01:29] <topper4125> You missed the part that said: "On newer 64-bit DEB-systems with Multiarch-support (Debian 7) teamviewer_linux_x64.deb cannot be installed because the package ia32-libs is not available anymore on these systems. In this case you can use teamviewer_linux.deb instead."
[01:29] <Phoenixz> I already did it, it made no difference
[01:29] <jrib> Phoenixz: did you get the multiarch package?
[01:29] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; you didn't like the page.
[01:29] <Phoenixz> Topslack: I might have missed that.. Alraedy downloading it on jrib suggestion, I'll try it
[01:29] <Danato> Rexter: I jst took a look at your page, it looks like a tech/humor page, pretty interesting
[01:30] <message144> Hi folks.  I am on Ubuntu 12.04.3 Desktop, kernel 3.2.0-56-generic.  I ran software update a few days ago.  After running it and restarting my computer, I now am experiencing some strange behaviour.  The following keybindings do not work at all: CTRL-v, CTRL-y, CTRL-_ . For some reason, other CTRL keybindings work fine.  Any ideas?
[01:30] <topper4125> Phoenixz, good luck with it :)
[01:30] <Danato> Rexter: but is it true that nearly 20% of Mac computers are infected by malware?
[01:31] <Rexter> Danato; yes, Mac owners think they don't need anti-virus. They are wrong.
[01:31] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, ?
[01:31] <Phoenixz> Topslack: jrib: makes sense.. if the 64bit version is not working due to 32 bit legacy that should not be there in the first place, install the 32 bit verison, that one WILL work... right..
[01:32] <Rexter> Danto; 5 years from not Ubuntu users will be in the same boat, just my prediction.
[01:32] <jrib> Phoenixz: are you familiar with multi-arch?
[01:32] <Danato> Rexter: I know about that, but Ive never seen any data about it, could you give me the source of that?
[01:32] <Phoenixz> jrib: yeah, but it still is weird that their 64 bit requires 32..
[01:33] <jrib> Phoenixz: it's like you said before, that 64bit version is just installing 32bit libraries.  It's just that the way to use 32bit software has changed.  And now we have multi-arch
[01:34] <Phoenixz> jrib: I know.. but 64bit support is not really new anymore.. :) anyway, the 32 bit version is working as it should... thanks a lot!
[01:34] <Rexter> Danato; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/mac-malware_n_1448561.html
[01:35] <Danato> Rexter: thanks a lot
[01:36] <supergauntlet> alright i have a bumblebee issue
[01:37] <supergauntlet> when I try to run any 3d application with the dedicated GPU this error will sometimes occur and the laptop will then turn off without warning 30 seconds later
[01:37] <supergauntlet> [  320.258227] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.  [  320.258259] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[01:37] <supergauntlet> any ideas?
[01:38] <Gabboz> Hi.  12.04 server.  I got this message on a few servers "*** /dev/sda2 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***"  My question is what makes the OS determine this is required?  The box hasn't crashed.  Thanks.
[01:39] <ainx> hello
[01:39] <jrib> Gabboz: there is a periodic check after a certain number of mounts (use tune2fs -l to check)
[01:39] <Gabboz> thanks jrib
[01:39] <ainx> what a application as sambroadcaster on linux ?
[01:43] <eugenio> quit
[01:43] <wolfspy> wat
[01:44] <vocx> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 inside a virtual machine. Yesterday I was watching Youtube videos on it without problems. I just paused the virtual machine, and suspended the host system. Today I just opened the computer again, the virtual machine was strange so I rebooted it. And now I'm using Ubuntu again, but I get no sound. How could I troubleshoot this?
[01:45] <Gabboz> vocx, try shuttind down the VM, disable audio, reboot VM, shut down VM, enable audio and see if it comes back.  Also, you have the VM extensions added?
[01:46] <wafflejock> !alsa | vocx
[01:46] <asdfjkleiso> Hello?
[01:47] <wafflejock> asdfjkleiso: hi
[01:47] <asdfjkleiso> hey there
[01:48] <asdfjkleiso> What's the biggest problem the RPM installations?
[01:48] <supergauntlet> !bumblebee
[01:49] <supergauntlet> hm
[01:49] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, ubuntu does not use rpm
[01:49] <asdfjkleiso> Is there any major problems using yum/rpms?
[01:49] <Beldar> or yum
[01:49] <asdfjkleiso> yeah
[01:50] <Rexter> I need help. Fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10. Monitor shows unknown, and max res of 1024X768. How do I fix this?
[01:50] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, and no logical reason to use them either.
[01:50] <asdfjkleiso> why?
[01:51] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, not designed for ubuntu, it is apt-get and you can source install, common sense.
[01:52] <asdfjkleiso> What if there are only rpm files?
[01:53] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, Show me one this is support not magical situations
[01:53] <asdfjkleiso> Whats a provacative question to ask a linux instructor?
[01:54] <xangua> asdfjkleiso: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[01:55] <scipy53> by any chance, are others having problems with firefox? i cant open one tab without it completely stalling my pc
[01:57] <Beldar> scipy53, restart it with addons disabled it is in help
[01:57] <vocx> wafflejock, thanks, will try
[01:57] <scipy53> Beldar, I tried that too, i only have one add-on i believe (ad block plus)
[01:58] <scipy53> it used to work fine until yesterday Beldar
[01:59] <Rexter> I need help with a screen resolution problem.
[01:59] <gassho> we will assist you resolving together your screen issue, if you'd like
[01:59] <gassho> ok Rexter ?
[02:00] <Rexter> gassho; thanks. Fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 monitor shows as unknown, mas resolution of 1024X768.
[02:01] <gassho> can you see anything?
[02:02] <Guest22282> so I got ubuntu loaded onto a USB stick, to install but also still be able to run windows do I do a custom ubuntu installation or just the regular install alongside windows?
[02:02] <gassho> does the monitor display output of any kind?
[02:02] <gassho> do you just want a higher resolution?
[02:02] <Rexter> gassho, yes I'm on it now, just want to get to native resolution 1280X1024.
[02:02] <xangua> !dualboot | Guest22282
[02:02] <Guest22282> thanks
[02:02] <Beldar> scipy53, You can make a new use instance, a new user I forget the exact name.
[02:03] <Rexter> gassho, but if I get a new monitor, I want it to see it correctly.
[02:03] <gassho> me too
[02:03] <scipy53> Beldar, WIll look into it, thank you
[02:04] <jimgroth> Hey guys. Anyone feel like helping me to get my monitor recognized in Lubuntu under a virtualbox with guest additions installed?
[02:04] <gassho> mmm
[02:04] <gassho> i dont know much about drivers but stick arqound in case someone can guide you further :/
[02:04] <Beldar> jimgroth, So have you googled or used asubuntu to search with your actual release running and the exact monitor?
[02:05] <Rexter> gassho; manually setting resolution would be okay, but not preferred, but ok. I just don't know how to do that.
[02:05] <Beldar> jimgroth, and virtuabox
[02:06] <jimgroth> Beldar, I've been googling but I only find people who get it working after getting the guest additions installed. I haven't searched with my exact monitor because I don't even know where I set it in lubuntu. :P
[02:06] <jimgroth> I haven't used asubuntu. Don't know what that that is.
[02:06] <Beldar> jimgroth, No identification tag on the monitor "model number or info"
[02:07] <Beldar> jimgroth, http://askubuntu.com/
[02:07] <jimgroth> oh, I think I know the monitor. It's a samsung bw243bw
[02:07] <jimgroth> oh, a forum?
[02:07] <Beldar> jimgroth To some extent but monitored by the developers
[02:08] <jimgroth> Ah. I'm more of a realtime communications person really but I'll try there since I'm running out of options.
[02:09] <Beldar> jimgroth, There is also a #vbox channel, just trying to give you some tools and ideas. ;) You have been at this since yesterday that I know of.
[02:09] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  [12.04 LTS w/ Unity] My app minitube's colors are messed up.  It's not the monitor, I checked.  It's only minitube.  If I load the same video in youtube, it works.  An example is that peoples' skin turns blue.  And anything red turns mega-blue.
[02:09] <jimgroth> Beldar, Yea, I asked a few times yesterday as well.
[02:09] <jimgroth> Thanks for the tips. :)
[02:09] <Beldar> no prob
[02:11] <c_nick> \quit
[02:11] <Boneheads1999> And I might've found a solution.. but it requires going into properties of the minitube app, but when I rightclick Minitube on the launcher, there's no "properties" choice.
[02:11] <c_nick> \close
[02:11] <linuxuz3r> is there a text to speech for ubuntu
[02:12] <nf7> What is the best looking Desktop Environment/Window Manager combo?
[02:12] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, I think orca has that option
[02:12] <Beldar> not sure
[02:13] <Rexter> nft7; best looking, really. Thats's like asking who makes the best Pizza? different folks, different strokes
[02:13] <Beldar> linux4u, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech 3 seconds on google
[02:13] <Gnarly> I like running e17 personally, but to each its different
[02:13] <Beldar> first hit with your question
[02:14] <Beldar> !best | nf7
[02:14] <Boneheads1999> does nobody have an answer to my question
[02:15] <Guest22282> if I have two hard drives in RAID is it the same as 1 hard drive for dualboot installation purposes?
[02:15] <Rexter> Boneheads1999; what's the question?
[02:15] <Raff> i'm running a webserver on a virtual machine, with ubuntu 12.04, the network of the vm is bridged, i've redirected the port 80 to the ip <IP_ADDRESS> on my router on virtual servers tab, but its not working
[02:15] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, any other color problems in the install?
[02:15] <Boneheads1999> Rexter My minitube colors are messed up
[02:15] <Raff> someone know whats going on ?
[02:15] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: Haven't found any no
[02:15] <Beldar> or graphic problems
[02:16] <Boneheads1999> well slight one
[02:16] <Rexter> Boneheads1999; sorry I don't know what minitube is.
[02:16] <Boneheads1999> like, when I roll the cursor over a picture in firefox (and chromium maybe)
[02:16] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, Ah, I wonder if the graphic driver setup is correct.
[02:16] <Boneheads1999> Beldar well I think YT videos work
[02:17] <Rexter> Guest22282, as long as both OS's have  drivers for your RAID controller, and the BIOS can boot from the RAID device.
[02:17] <Boneheads1999> and anyway, someone had a solution for this minitube problem I think.  But it requires going to minitube's properties, and when I right-click on MT in the launcher, there's no "properties" available.
[02:17] <Guest22282> thanks
[02:17] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, I'm not really up on graphic issues I have Intel and never have problems, but that would be my guess.
[02:18] <Rexter> beldar; do you know how to set resolution manually on an intel graphics card?
[02:18] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: read what I just said.  What I basically need to know is: in the file system, where is minitube??
[02:18] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, It seems you have some external go to preference idea, what version are they running if this is the case.
[02:19] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, I am reading it and don't get snarky alright
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: omg sorry
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> beldar: sorry
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> beldar: anyway you mean what version of minitube
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> beldar: or what version of ubuntu?
[02:19] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, And do not post to me I will not see it.
[02:19] <vocx> Hi guys, I fixed my problem with the audio. Yes, rebooting the virtual machine, disabling audio, re-enabling audio, brought it back. Thank you.
[02:20] <Raff> i'm running a webserver on a virtual machine, with ubuntu 12.04, the network of the vm is bridged, i've redirected the port 80 to the ip <IP_ADDRESS> on my router on virtual servers tab, but its not working
[02:21] <Rexter> Raff; what OS is the host machine?
[02:21] <Raff> fedora
[02:22]  * Beldar is a conehead not a bonehead, lol
[02:22] <Rexter> Raff; is the VM getting it's IP from the router?
[02:22] <jimgroth> Raff, Does the server listen only to a certain domain?
[02:22] <Raff> yes
[02:23] <Rexter> Raff; are you sure? do you see it in the DHCP table on the router?
[02:23] <Raff> yes
[02:23] <Rexter> can you access the web server from the intranet?
[02:24] <Raff> kolab.example.org	    00-0C-29-6A-75-B1	 <IP_ADDRESS>	 Permanente
[02:24] <Raff> from intranet yes
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> oh man
[02:24] <Rexter> Raff; just to clarify, you can access it from another machine on the lan?
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> opensource really rocks
[02:24] <Raff> yes
[02:25] <jimgroth> Have you made sure your ISP doesn't filter port 80?
[02:26] <Rexter> Raff; would't you just use simple port forwarding?
[02:27] <Raff> i dont know if my isp filter the port 80
[02:27] <MarGul> Just installed PHP for my ubuntu-server running nginx and I have done changes in my virtual host file (settings http://paste.ubuntu.com/6512329/ ). I created a index.php file in /usr/share/nginx/html but when I try <IP_ADDRESS>/index.php I get "unable to connect"
[02:28] <jimgroth> Raff, try forwarding port 8080 from your router to port 80 on the server machine. Then enter example.com:8080 and see if you get a connect
[02:28] <MarGul> Am I forgetting something? I have restarted nginx a few times but still my index.php is not getting shown
[02:28] <Raff> ok
[02:28] <Boneheads1999> different help now.  How do I make a desktop shortcut to an application.
[02:29] <Rexter> I could use some help with a screen resolution issue.
[02:30] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: look up the command ln , will give you a link to a file
[02:30] <Beldar> Rexter, don't just ask for help keep the details with your posts
[02:30] <Rexter> max resolution of 1024X768 won't do. How do I set it manually?
[02:30] <Boneheads1999> margul: this may sound stupid but I don't understand
[02:31] <jimgroth> Rexter, You need to share what os version you've got to start with
[02:31] <isosceles> hi, does anybody know how to use a UCA202 USB audiocard?
[02:31] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ln.1.html . The command ln will create a link "shortcut" to another file without creating a new file
[02:32] <Beldar> Rexter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:32] <Rexter> Beldar; Thanks, monitor shows as unknown, max resolution 1024X768. That's far from the native resolution. How do I get Ubuntu 13.10 to see it correctly?
[02:32] <jimgroth> Rexter, are you using a virtual machine?
[02:32] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: So basically ln <yourfile> <file located at /home/desktop/>
[02:32] <Rexter> jimgroth; no, bare metal.
[02:33] <Raff> thanks, jimgroth , it worked, i was trying to solve it, i didn't know my isp filter the port 80, thanks man, its woking on 8080
[02:33] <Beldar> Rexter, xrandr in the terminal will tell you whats available, take a look at the link as well.
[02:33] <jimgroth> Good. Too bad though since it means you can't serve from home.
[02:34] <Boneheads1999> margul: how do I know what my file is called?
[02:35] <Rexter> Beldar; yea, it shows 1024x768 max, that's not right.
[02:35] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: Find where you installed your application and your file should be in there
[02:35] <Boneheads1999> Margul, I dunno where it is.. USC installed it
[02:35] <Beldar> Rexter, The link might have some clues
[02:35] <shesek> so I'm trying to add nginx's ppa to my system and install the latest stable, but it keeps using the one from universe/web
[02:36] <chaotix> hi...  i am having a problem.. i like the game supertuxkart, but on this computer and this screen the window is too large for the screen, and 1024x768 is the only resolution that works with the screen...  what can i do?
[02:37] <shesek> I tried pinning in by adding that to /etc/apt/preferences: "Package * | Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net | Pin-Priority: 1000", but no dice :-\
[02:37] <shesek> any advice?
[02:38] <Rexter> Beldar; yea, I see a lot of info there, but none of it seems to be relevant to my issue. What would cause the monitor to show as unknown? is it a driver issue?
[02:38] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: look up the find command "find / -name "myfile.txt" will look in the harddrive for the file myfile.txt . Change that to the name of your program followed by a asterix "find / -name "Skype*"
[02:39] <MarGul> that will find all the files having Skype in it
[02:39] <Beldar> Rexter, Not sure not an area I have a lot of knowledge in, however if it were me I would be checking the types of modes your graphic system can run in.
[02:39] <Rexter> Beldar; I'm pretty sure this monitor native is 1680X1050.
[02:40] <Beldar> Rexter, Do you understand by what I mean with modes?
[02:40] <Rexter> Beldar; no. How do I check that?
[02:41] <Beldar> Rexter, look at this section on the link for a general idea. Intel driver - UMS
[02:42] <Rexter> Beldar; what I do know, is when this system was running Windows 7 I was able to run native resolution.
[02:42] <notnicklas> Hi. I'm trying to create a desktop launche from a .profile does something like "gnome-terminal -x mutt". The new terminal doesn't seem to have 256 color support, any ideas on how to fix this?
[02:43] <Beldar> Rexter, You are just repeating yourself expecting to be led to an answer, this is not always the case with open sources is all. ;)
[02:44] <jrib> notnicklas: how are you determining it doesn't have 256 color support?
[02:44] <jmgk> I think I messed it up
[02:45] <jmgk> Ubuntu kernel :(
[02:45] <Rexter> Beldar; I'm with you.  I can't spot the needle in the haystack.
[02:45] <notnicklas> jrib: a lot of "Error in /home/federico/.muttrc, line 109: 108: color not supported by term
[02:45] <jrib> notnicklas: run bash instead of mutt and check
[02:45] <jmgk> yeah fix it or check it out
[02:46] <chaotix> hi...  i am having a problem.. i like the game supertuxkart, but on this computer and this screen the window is too large for the screen, and 1024x768 is the only resolution that works with the screen...  what can i do?
[02:46] <notnicklas> jrib: that works fine, I'm thinking the launcher is not reading my .bash_profile/.bashrc
[02:46] <jrib> notnicklas: right, bash isn't spawned at all I think
[02:47] <notnicklas> jrib: bash -c it is then, ty :)
[02:47] <Rexter> chaotix; is your 1024X768 specific to the game?
[02:48] <Coryn> is there a shortcut for creating a new file?
[02:48] <Boneheads1999> where's the .config folder?
[02:48] <jrib> Coryn: touch newfile
[02:48] <notnicklas> Boneheads1999: in your home (~ or /home/your_username)
[02:49] <Boneheads1999> there's nothing there.. is it hidden? if so, any idea how to show hidden files/folders?
[02:49] <locoloco> chaotix: take a gander at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[02:49] <jrib> Boneheads1999: what program are you using to look for it?
[02:49] <Coryn> is there a shortcut for creating a new file, in the actual file manager?
[02:49] <Boneheads1999> just the file system looks like
[02:49] <jrib> Coryn: right click
[02:49] <Rexter> chaotix; your issue sounds similar to mine. Are you there?
[02:49] <chaotix> Rexter, 1024x768 is the resolution set in system settings
[02:50] <Boneheads1999> jrib: well, the program is called "Home"
[02:50] <chaotix> it is the only res that works with this tv screen
[02:50] <jrib> Boneheads1999: view -> show hidden files (or ctrl-h)
[02:50] <Coryn> jrib: that's not a short cut
[02:50] <jrib> Coryn: you mean a keyboard shortcut?
[02:50] <vocx> Coryn, what is a short cut for you?
[02:52] <Rexter> chaotix; does your monitor show as unknown?
[02:52] <Beldar> Rexter, Sometimes there are users here that have direct answers, I do in some areas. If I need to find an answer though I generally search the web with exact hardware and app info and the release I'm running. So you can run lspci and find the exact graphic card and search the web with that the release and resolution, that is where I would start, try askubuntu with that search.
[02:52] <tnfnsexe> GET THE PASSCODES TO THE NAZI COMPLEX
[02:52] <chaotix> Rexter, i do not think so
[02:53] <Rexter> chaotix, check it!
[02:53] <chaotix> Rexter, i only have a problem in supertuxkart
[02:53] <notnicklas> jrib: any suggestions on how to launch the cli app after loading bash? `bash -c mutt` is not doing the trick (Failed to execute child process "bash -c mutt" (No such file or directory))
[02:53] <chaotix> Rexter, is your problem also related to supertuxkart?
[02:53] <Beldar> !ops | tnfnsexe check posts
[02:53] <Rexter> chaotix; I understand, but I'm suggesting your problem is a symptom of a more general problem.
[02:53] <jrib> notnicklas: try not using quotes or using -e instead of -x
[02:54] <chaotix> Rexter, it is not unknow, it comes up with the brand name of the tv and 40"
[02:54] <jrib> notnicklas: why do you need to source those bash files for color support though?
[02:54] <Rexter> chaotix; what is the max resolution of the TV?
[02:54] <chaotix> Rexter, i do not know
[02:55] <notnicklas> jrib: I need to `export TERM="xterm-256color"`
[02:55] <chaotix> 1024x768 is the only resolution that works with my tv, Rexter
[02:55] <Rexter> Beldar; thank you for your effort. I am continuing to scour the link you provided, as well as other sources.
[02:55] <jrib> notnicklas: does gnome-terminal not do that?
[02:55] <Rexter> chaotix; that's not waht
[02:56] <chaotix> Rexter, what?
[02:56] <chaotix> Rexter, i do not know what it is that you are asking
[02:56] <notnicklas> jrib: apparently not by default, if I comment that out I lose most colors
[02:56] <jrib> notnicklas: you're on 13.10?
[02:56] <Rexter> chaotix; that's not what I asked. 1024X768 is 4x3 a 40 inch TV should be 16x9
[02:56] <notnicklas> jrib: 12.04 :(
[02:57] <Beldar> Rexter, Do you have hdmi?
[02:57] <locoloco> chaotix: what is the brand/model of the TV?
[02:57] <jrib> notnicklas: can probably work around it by just using "env TERM=xterm-256color mutt" but you'll still have to probably not use quotes with -x or use quotes and -e
[02:57] <Rexter> chaotix; I am suggesting your graphics driver isn't seeing it correctly.
[02:58] <chaotix> locoloco, i have a polaroid
[02:58] <notnicklas> jrib: will try that out, thanks :)
[02:59] <locoloco> chaotix: polaroid, okay, you know the model or size?
[02:59] <cryingdoom> Note to self. Look at Slackware documentation to fix any Linux in general :)
[02:59] <Beldar> cryingdoom, generally archlinux is closer
[02:59] <chaotix> locoloco, just found it...  polaroid 3211-tlxb
[03:01] <cryingdoom> I tried installing Arch on UEFI, wound up with Manjaro and I thought I'd take the Unity plunge since gnome2 so I'm here woo ;)
[03:01] <locoloco> chaotix: so, were talking 32-inch, 720p
[03:01] <chaotix> locoloco, yes...  i think you guys are right... in resolutions settings it says 40" tv
[03:01] <chaotix> locoloco, but it is a 32"
[03:02] <Rexter> Beldar; no this is an older 19" 4X3 samsung monitor. The native resolution is 1600x1200
[03:02] <cryingdoom> I think I have fleas from thinking how to install Arch
[03:02] <chaotix> it seems to work fine...  just sometimes i get a window like supertuxkart that is not resizable, that is too large
[03:03] <Beldar> Rexter, Ah, I saw a 40 inch television reference thought it was yours but than realized it was not.
[03:03] <chaotix> other than that, setting things to 1024x768 (3:4) looks fine
[03:03] <chaotix> what should i do, locoloco
[03:03] <Rexter> Beldar; chaotix may have a similar issue to mine on his 40" TV
[03:04] <chaotix> Rexter, its a 32"....  it just says 40" in the resolution settings
[03:05] <chaotix> i need to go to sleep...  if you guys figure it out can you pm me?
[03:05] <chaotix> since you are working on the same thing
[03:05] <Beldar> chaotix, My samsung led has built in resolution changing I believe, you have the manual for it.
[03:05] <Rexter> chaotix; if the game requires higher resolution than the TV is capable of, you are out of luck. I'm suggesting 1024X768 is incorrect.
[03:06] <Rexter> chaotix; I'll bet it's native resolution is at least 1366X768.
[03:06] <locoloco> chaotix: take a look at the xrandr link I pasted above
[03:08] <linuxuz3r> my vmware client windows 7 is slow how can i make it faster
[03:08] <Rexter> locoloco; is xrandr specific to AMD graphics chipset?
[03:09] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, vmware and W7 is no where near ubuntu related.
[03:10] <kalakjsd> hi all , i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and is there any way to fast detect modem by modem-manager(Network manager), sakis 3g does this work, but modem manager doesn't, why? and   it does not get detected at all, untill i reinsert modem
[03:11] <kalakjsd> i have also edited /etc/modules to load option and usbserial modules at boot
[03:11] <locoloco> Rexter: a terminal utility to experiment with resolution settings
[03:11] <kalakjsd> still no luck, i also tried to edit /etc/rc.local
[03:11] <kalakjsd> no luck
[03:11] <kalakjsd> how to solve that problem
[03:11] <locoloco> Rexter: more here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[03:13] <Rexter> Beldar, locoloco; xrandr shows max resolution 32767 x 32767 but or course that's higher than my monitor. Is there a command or a config file I can edit to set it to 1600X1200?
[03:14] <chris901> are there any programmers in here?
[03:14] <Beldar> Rexter, try xrandr -s 1600x1200
[03:14] <Beldar> Rexter, if the screen blacks out it will return to what is there shortly
[03:15] <chris901> wherer can I get a compiler for Ultimate Edition?
[03:15] <kalakjsd> Rexter: what ubuntu version you are running
[03:15] <chris901> 13.04
[03:16] <cfhowlett> chris901, ask the ultimateedition channel - not supported here
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !derivativdes
[03:16] <kalakjsd> Rexter: type display in unity dash and change the resolution
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !derivatives
[03:16] <comp__> .
[03:16] <Rexter> Beldar; "Size 1600x1200 not found in available modes" in that article you pointed to, I saw I need to somehow build the mode, right?
[03:16] <Rexter> kalakjsd; 13.10
[03:16] <Beldar> Rexter, NOt sure I have not really had to mess around there is all.
[03:17] <kalakjsd> Rexter: type display in unity and click on displays> change to suitable sizes that are available
[03:18] <Rexter> kalakjsd; 1024X768 is the max available. Monitor is shown as unknown. Monitor native resolution is 1600X122, but it's not seen correctly.
[03:18] <kalakjsd> hmm, what graphics card you have
[03:19] <Rexter> kalakjsd; 1600X1200
[03:19] <kalakjsd> Rexter: what graphics card you have
[03:19] <Beldar> Rexter, what is the exact model on the monitor?
[03:20] <Rexter> Beldar; Samsung SyncMaster 213T
[03:20] <Beldar> Rexter, run lsusb if it is a usb
[03:20] <locoloco> Rexter: the wiki entry on wiki.ubuntu.com is jam-packed with examples for setting up a profile
[03:21] <Beldar> Rexter,does it plugin in usb?
[03:21] <Beldar> check if lsusb goces more info though
[03:21] <Beldar> gives
[03:22] <Rexter> beldar, kalakjsd; http://pastebin.com/G640RuvE
[03:22] <kalakjsd> Rexter: i think this is the problem with graphics, because once i was have a SIS mirage graphics , and available resolution was only 800x600 on my laptop
[03:22] <Rexter> Beldar, no VGA
[03:24] <Beldar> Rexter, I see a linux reference in this manual, since it is not recognized a driver or setting up is needed I would assume. http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/media/213tmanual.pdf
[03:24] <mosquito520> Hi, Does anyone know how to connect multiple WLAN by single Wireless device?? I've found a command "ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0", but It doesn't work on my enviroment(ubuntu 13.10), and I have no idea does that command depend on kernerl version? distro version? or wifi driver???
[03:26] <Trace_> Hey is there anyone that can help me with some dependency issues? apt-get -f install is not working
[03:26] <Rexter> Beldar; are you referring to this? http://pastebin.com/fFnaqh5r
[03:27] <locoloco> Rexter: worked up a VGA profile... adjust settings as you see fit http://paste.ubuntu.com/6512550/
[03:28] <Beldar> Rexter, I sent you a manual on that monitor. What I am finding though is very little on linux and even less on ubuntu on the web is all.
[03:28] <Beldar> for that exact monitor
[03:29] <Rexter> locoloco; so change the 1366X768 to native resolution 1600X1200? And put this in what config?
[03:30] <trism> Trace_: pastebin the errors
[03:30] <locoloco> Rexter: correct, alter the settings and simply run in Terminal. If the new settings fit your screen you could always add the script to startup.
[03:31] <Rexter> locoloco; could I add this to the xorg config somehow?
[03:32] <Trace_> http://pastebin.com/K5Ba07xn and apt-get -f install does the same thin
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> Trace_, Whoa, webmin?
[03:32] <locoloco> Rexter: good question...
[03:32] <zykotick9> !webmin | Trace_
[03:33] <Trace_> well that would certainly explain it
[03:34] <maestrojed> I have a need to temporarily use Ubuntu 9.x. It seems I can't install openssh-server because the repositories are closed. Do I have any options?
[03:34] <Trace_> now it wont let me install anything, any idea how to fix that?
[03:34] <locoloco> Rexter: I use /etc/rc.local for that kinda stuff
[03:34] <AndreYonadam> I have a quick opinion question guys. So as you know the new Macbook only has two usb ports, should I get an SDXC card for extra memory or a flash drive?
[03:35] <chutney> AndreYonadamm why not get a usb hub, then have as many ports as you like?
[03:35] <nariamm> i need help connecting my printer
[03:36] <AndreYonadam> chutney: wouldn't it reduce speed. plus it consumes space.
[03:36] <Trace_> or does anyone know a good alternative to webmin that will work?
[03:37] <chutney> AndreYonadam, I've seen some very smal usb hubs
[03:38] <chutney> AndreYonadam, these days they aren't much bigger than the ports they provide
[03:38] <AndreYonadam> For real?
[03:38] <AndreYonadam> I'm going to look into that.
[03:38] <chutney> yes
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:41] <Rexter> locoloco; I tried 1600X1200, but it set it to 1368X768, I don't know where that came from, but we are making progress!
[03:41] <Trace_> ubottu, do  you know a good alternative to webmin
[03:42] <Beldar> maestrojed, 9. anything is not calling to the main ubuntu repos
[03:42] <Rexter> locoloco; I don't understand all the numbers in this command: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
[03:42] <Coryn> installing chromium does not install any weirdware outside the actual application (like google's product on iOS that hacked into safari and other things) does it?
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> Trace_: Cpanel
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> lol
[03:42] <xangua> Coryn: no
[03:42] <Trace_> AndreYonadam i was looking for a free one
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> kloxo?
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> I think it had security problems though
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> not sure if it still does
[03:43] <maestrojed> Beldar I don't know a lot about this stuff. Can I switch to a different source? One that would have openssh-server?
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> What's wrong with webmin
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> softacolous actually has their own
[03:43] <jpds> !webmin | AndreYonadam
[03:43] <Beldar> maestrojed, what forces you do use a end of release setup?
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> is ubottu actually a bot
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> ?
[03:44] <Techman|Hex> Yes
[03:44] <jpds> !bot | AndreYonadam
[03:44] <locoloco> Rexter: Okay, see how the script calls for running the command cvt for the x and y resolution?
[03:44] <nariamm> pri ter help?
[03:44] <locoloco> you have to do that first
[03:45] <Trace_> geekmasterflash, do you know a good free alternative to webmin that is supported?
[03:45] <Rexter> locoloco; I see how I have it all messed up, but I don't understand the syntax.
[03:45] <maestrojed> Beldar its a long story but in short we need to mirror an environment that existed with a project was mothballed years ago but is now needed for a one-time, temporary need
[03:45] <locoloco> nariamm: need to give us bit more to go on? Brand printer? Model? USB or Network connection?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, ah yes.  the emergency Y2K encoders problem
[03:45] <cfhowlett> !details|nariamm,
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> Trace_, Zentyal is what I use
[03:46] <Beldar> maestrojed, Not sure myself on a repo link others may know.
[03:47] <nariamm> locoloco: its a cannon pixma mx452 ubuntu 13.10 64 bit and its a network printer
[03:47] <Trace_> geekmasterflash, thank you
[03:47] <locoloco> Rexter: np, one step at a time. Pls read through both the Arch and Ubuntu wiki's
[03:47] <maestrojed> cfhowlett why does it matter the business reasons for needing this. The technical issue is what I stated and what I need help with. I need to install openssh-server on an old version of Ubuntu (9.x) when I try with apt-get all the repos are closed. Can I use other repos? What can I do?
[03:48] <maestrojed> Beldar ok, thanks
[03:48] <Rexter> locoloco; lol thanks for all the help. Please refrain from the n
[03:49] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, I was being unhelpful and made a random comment.  apologies.  (self-slap administered)  I would think you get the needed package from the package site and dpkg -i, right?
[03:49] <locoloco> nariamm: and you are looking to connect over wired or wireless network? Are there drivers avail from Canon's website?
[03:49] <Beldar> maestrojed, As a heads up though eol's are not supported here, that does not mean though that you will get no help.
[03:49] <Rexter> locoloco; lol thanks for all the help. Please refrain from the RTFM post. I just need help with the specific command to set mod to 1600x1200.]
[03:49] <maestrojed> Beldar understood. No prob
[03:49] <Beldar> ;)
[03:51] <locoloco> Rexter: pardon, didn't mean to come across like a RTFM poster! Just that they hold a lot of info with regard to what each step of xrandr does
[03:51] <maestrojed> cfhowlett yeah. no worries. Sorry too. This has been a frustrating endeavor. And by endeavor I mean the "business reasons" :). Yeah, I guess so. I was hoping there were backed-up mirrored repo of old stuff or something
[03:52] <locoloco> Rexter: all trying to assist as best we can to help solve the issues in the channel.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, well the original 9.# iso is available.  you'd probably have to scrounge thru the package site to find their old versions
[03:53] <NCS_One> hi
[03:53] <Rexter> locoloco; I will, for sure check it out. If you, or someone could be so kind to take one the next step. This command xrandr --newmode "1368x768_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync : this create the mode for 1368x768. I need 1600x1200 75Hz. I just don't understand the syntax quite enough to modify it/
[03:53] <NCS_One> what does it mean "%F" on "vim -f %F"?
[03:54] <Beldar> maestrojed, This info is for eol upgrades I believe but I think you can use them as a source cfhowlett might be able to conform this. http://pogidude.com/2013/how-to-install-packages-for-end-of-life-ubuntu-editions/
[03:54] <Beldar> confirm
[03:54] <maestrojed> cfhowlett Beldar  okay, thanks
[03:54] <cfhowlett> Beldar, good find - exactly what I was looking for.   I would have  never been so close without you.
[03:55] <tgm4883> Does USB disk creator actually work? It seems everytime I try to create a startup disk with it it fails with some DBUS error
[03:56] <Rexter> locoloco; no I don't see that in the script, you so kindly made for me.
[03:57] <Rexter> locolco; or I don't understand the question.
[03:57] <locoloco> Rexter: right, that part was commented out
[03:58] <locoloco> Rexter: in the Terminal, issue the command   cvt 1600 1200
[03:59] <Rexter> locoloco; Ok I see the resolution I want listed, but what did that do?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, yes it works.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, perhaps try unetbootin as an alternative
[04:00] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, anything special I need to do to the USB stick first?
[04:00] <josue> hi, i need a non-pae kernel to my pc, anybody can help me
[04:01] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, SAME usb stick fails?  They do break.  Try a diff. stick
[04:01] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I've tried that as well, while that at least finishes, it doesn't seem to create a bootable ubuntu USB
[04:01] <locoloco> Rexter: good, now see how the script calls for defining a newmode for xrandr?
[04:01] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I've tried 2 now
[04:01] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, verify the ISO?
[04:01] <tgm4883> let me see if I can find a third
[04:01] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, downloaded the torrent, ISO should be fine
[04:01] <Rexter> locoloco; yes, but there are so many numbers, i don't see how they all fit together.
[04:01] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, yeah but ... DID you verify?  :)
[04:02] <Rexter> locoloco; and I don't see the relation to cvt 166 1200
[04:02] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, do the math: 60 seconds in the terminal to make sure you've got good input ...
[04:02] <Rexter> I mean 1600 1200
[04:02] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, no... I didn't verify the MD5SUM of the ISO I downloaded.... That is done by the torrent. But Ok, give me a few seconds
[04:02] <locoloco> Rexter: what does the Terminal print?
[04:02] <mikedevita> anyone familiar with upstarts
[04:03] <Rexter> locoloco; # 1600x1200 59.87 Hz (CVT 1.92M3) hsync: 74.54 kHz; pclk: 161.00 MHz
[04:03] <Rexter> Modeline "1600x1200_60.00"  161.00  1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync
[04:03] <locoloco> Rexter: perfect!
[04:03] <Rexter> locoloco; what is all this " 1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync"
[04:03] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso: OK
[04:04] <mikedevita> ive discoverd if you define env variables in ~/.bashrc for root user, they dont work when using upstarts
[04:04] <mikedevita> am i missing something?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, and you're creating the USB on a 64 bit machine?
[04:04] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, yes
[04:04] <ldlework> Is there a commandline version of nm-applet?
[04:04] <locoloco> Rexter: don't get me wrong but you ought to be able to read about those digits... in the manual
[04:05] <locoloco> ;-)
[04:05] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, eh ..... try a different port for the usb
[04:05] <maestrojed> Yeah!!! Guess whats installing!! openssh!  Back in a sec
[04:05] <Beldar> maestrojed, cool.
[04:05] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, outstanding.   please consider upgrading to  a supported distro.
[04:05] <LinoSP> someones knows about programmimg a simple app in asterisk
[04:06] <LinoSP> or where to find examples
[04:06] <locoloco> Rexter: next step will be to type  xrandr --newmode followed by that string of numbers that the Terminal spit out before.
[04:06] <maestrojed> cfhowlett this machine is going to live for less than a week :) thx again
[04:06] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, have fun, be safe
[04:06] <MarGul> When I installed PHP and MySQL on my server everything stopped working. I cannot connect to my server any more. I have doubbled checked that I still forward port 80 and that my static IP is the same. All is good it just stopped working after isntalling PHP and MySQL. Anyone have any clue? ;/
[04:06] <human_like> How many gigs of ram will ubuntu 12.04 support or recognize?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> human_like, upper limit?  never seen one stated
[04:07] <Rexter> locoloco; no that's cool. I will but I'm about out of time for now, and I need to get this set tonight. If you would be so kind. The script you created worked fine, except I don't understand how to change it from 1368x768 to 1600x1200 75Hz.
[04:07] <ObrienDave> human_like, that would depend on your BIOS limits
[04:07] <locoloco> Rexter: at the terminal, type    xrandr --newmode "1600x1200_60.00"  161.00  1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync
[04:08] <Rexter> locoloco; I realize you are trying to help me better understand what this is doing, I appreciate that.
[04:08] <human_like> care to take a guess on an average limit?
[04:09] <locoloco> Rexter: np, you're very welcome! glad to help!
[04:09] <rypervenche> human_like: Depends also on your file system, but it's quite a lot.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> human_like, given that users are hooking up multi-cpu/core machines, I would *GUESS* ... unlimited?
[04:09] <ObrienDave> human_like, it depends on your computer. my laptop, 8GB. My compaq workstation, 12GB
[04:09] <rypervenche> errr kernel
[04:10] <human_like> thanks thats all i need to know
[04:10] <locoloco> Rexter: did you type that line at the prompt?  xrandr --newmode "1600x1200_60.00"  161.00  1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync
[04:10] <xangua> (22:09:55) ObrienDave: human_like, it depends on your computer.
[04:11] <tgm4883> human_like, theoretically 16 exabytes of RAM
[04:11] <ObrienDave> xangua, that's what i've been trying to tell human_like ;)
[04:11] <human_like> thats cool
[04:12] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I think something gets hung up on this laptop sometimes. reboot and it works again. Let me see if it boots this other system
[04:14] <Rexter> locoloco; but I'm looking for 75 Hz
[04:15] <locoloco> Rexter: let's go with what cvt gave us first.
[04:15] <Blue22> hey I've done everything in the start manual but I really cant make sense of how to get my usb ubuntu boot to work, I made one with linuxpendrive is there a different way I should do it?
[04:15] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, yep, looks good. Installing now. Thanks for the input
[04:16] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, have fun, be safe
[04:16] <Rexter> locoloco; ok so the next command in your script xrandr --addmode VGA1 1368x768_60.00 can I change it to 1600x1200_60.00?
[04:17] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, not sure I can do that. I just installed a video card that is bigger than my first motherboard
[04:17] <LinoSP> someone knows about programmimg a simple app in asterisk or where to find examples
[04:17] <locoloco> Rexter: correct!
[04:19] <akcin> Good evening all! Is there anyone who might be awesome at troubleshooting a wireless card problem on a EEEPC?
[04:19] <locoloco> Rexter: lastly, issue the xrandr command with the new output mode
[04:19] <akcin> because yes, I still have one of those. ;P
[04:20] <locoloco> Rexter: should look something like    xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1600x1200_60.00
[04:20] <akcin> My poor computer doesn't seem to know that it even has a wireless card in it. And I'm unsure if it's a driver problem... or if it's a hardware problem.
[04:20] <Beldar> akcin, run lspci and identify the wifi hardware to the channel, and the actual issue and any attempts to fix
[04:20] <akcin> I'm clearly hoping the former to be true.
[04:20] <Jordan_U> akcin: Please pastebin the output of "lspci".
[04:22] <akcin> Hmm... the only internet type device there is the ethernet controller... or is that what I'm looking for?
[04:23] <Beldar> akcin, Go ahead and pastebin all of the lspci as suggested.
[04:23] <Coryn> what the actual fuck? I installed chromium on a portable USB, and it took ALL my firefox web history with it. How do I remove the stupid "web-history unity-lens whatever it's called"?
[04:23] <Rexter> locoloco; would this do it?  http://pastebin.com/JfSyJcbD
[04:24] <akcin> Right, just trying to figure out how to copy it from Xterm. ;P
[04:24] <Beldar> !language | Coryn
[04:24] <IdleOne> !nounity
[04:25] <locoloco> Rexter: looks good! Give it a whirl!
[04:25] <Rexter> locoloco; it still sets it to 1368X768
[04:26] <Coryn> IdleOne: so unity is the thing installing the weird privacy intruding things such as that amazon thing?
[04:26] <IdleOne> !adlens
[04:26] <ObrienDave> Rexter, Laptop screen?
[04:26] <Coryn> IdleOne: dude, that was NOT what I asked. Read my question again, ffs.
[04:27] <Rexter> No samsung monitor Syncmanster 213T
[04:27] <IdleOne> Coryn: mind your language and watch your attitude.
[04:27] <Coryn> yes
[04:27] <Coryn> so unity is the thing installing the weird privacy intruding things such as that amazon thing? (note: I'm not asking about how to remove the spyware, but rather about it's source)
[04:27] <IdleOne> if you want to remove the ad/privacy thingy follow the link ubottu just gave you
[04:27] <hemangpatel> hi ubuntu
[04:28] <IdleOne> Corey: essentially, yes.
[04:28] <hemangpatel> Need help in bash script
[04:28] <Coryn> why do chromium know bout my firefox web history?
[04:29] <akcin> Paste from lspci : http://pastebin.com/WhxTHbUZ
[04:30] <hemangpatel> I have two directory with lot's of images. I need to compate two dir and based on diff i want to run imagemagick command on that diff files
[04:33] <akcin> So, am I correct in assuming that this is a hardware problem since it doesn't seem to show up there?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> Coryn, no way.  here's a test.  clear your chromium history.  do some ffox browsing.  reopen chromium to see what shows up.
[04:33] <locoloco> Rexter: what's the output of the xrandr command alone?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, greetings
[04:34] <ObrienDave> Rexter, what is the monitor connected to?
[04:35] <Coryn> I just want to warn the people here planning to install chromium via ubuntu. It'll copy firefox's cache once when installed. Make sure to clear everything first after chromium is installed.
[04:35] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, greetings from india
[04:35] <blognewb> coq au vin is chicken bourignon?
[04:35] <Phoenixz> Coryn: the cache? you mean history and bookmarks?
[04:36]  * ObrienDave looks for his foil hat
[04:37] <akcin> is there anyone that can help me? If not, I understand... just wondering if I'm sitting here for a purpose or waiting or whatnot. :P
[04:38] <Beldar> ObrienDave, That always makes the signal cleaner from the mother ship.
[04:38] <Coryn> Phoenixz: history and cache (according to some site)
[04:39] <Coryn> I found my history in the URL list in a fresh install of chromium
[04:39] <Rexter> locoloco; http://pastebin.com/RLHR6c6p
[04:39] <hemangpatel> anyone has idea ? or i'm in wrong channel ?
[04:40] <Phoenixz> Coryn: History I'm sure, but taht is optional, IIRC, it will ask you if you want to do that.. Cache, I doubt it, because for one it would be rather useless...
[04:40] <akcin> Alright, I'll try again tomorrow... I should be in bed by now anyway. Thanks anyway, guys, and have a great night!
[04:41] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, what's the ubuntu issue you are having?
[04:41] <Phoenixz> Coryn: History, sure, but then again, chrome can store all your history, bookmarks, etc. in a central location, and if you login, it will sync it all
[04:41] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, I have two directory with lot's of images. I need to compate two dir and based on diff i want to run imagemagick command on that diff files
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Coryn, sounds like you imported from firefox
[04:42] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, sounds doable.  sadly, my terminal commands aren't up to the level to be of help.  From what I remember, first you'd do the comparison then pipe the output to the imagemagick command
[04:43] <Coryn> cfhowlett: I didn't, ubuntu did it.
[04:43] <Rexter> Locolco; your right on the Hz vertical 60 horizontal 75 at this resolution.
[04:43] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, no problem thanks
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Coryn, eh, no.  chromium is not ubuntu, nor is firefox.  See your chromium settings ...
[04:43] <Rexter> ObreinDave; a Vostro 220s, if that's what you mean?
[04:44] <Datz> Hi, is there a way to change the grub boot order for a wubi install?
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Datz, probably but ... wubi is dying/dead/unsupported.  consider dual booting
[04:45] <Coryn> cfhowlett: I installed it via the software center (ubuntu), and that's when it copied half of my firefox profile
[04:45] <Datz> cfhowlett: I can't remember if it's dual boot or wubi actually..
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Coryn, which it does ONLY if you give permission.  on first boot, you're offered the option to import. I'm guessing you said "yes"
[04:46] <Datz> I suppose I should check..
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Coryn, and by "IT" we are discussing chromium NOT ubuntu
[04:46] <Datz> can I check if it's a wubi install while booted to ubuntu?
[04:46] <Coryn> cfhowlett: indeed I did not (I would obviously not want such a thing). it was already there
[04:46] <akcin> real quick... what was the gnome-desktop thing that you told someone else to install just like... five minutes ago?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Coryn, OK ... well, clear your caches and the problem should be fixed
[04:46] <akcin> I installed it, thinking that you were talking to me... and now I'm super confused.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !whoakcin,
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !who|akcin,
[04:47] <akcin> Yeah, I don't remember who it was... heh
[04:47] <Rexter> locoloco; well, I'm going to have to call it a night. Any other thoughts?
[04:47] <Datz> cfhowlett: isn't there a directory where I can reorder entries cfhowlett?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> Datz, I don't do wubi anymore - one two many heartaches.  sorry, can't help
[04:48] <Datz> wait, think I found it./etc/default/grub
[04:48] <Datz> ok cfhowlett
[04:49] <Datz> do I have to reboot and check for a wubi install in windows, or is there an easier way?
[04:49] <saliak> I have a question about permissions and shared directories in ubuntu.  I have a directory that's open over a SMB share.  I've assigned a group in my system the owner, and users that are members of that group have write access.  whenever someone makes a file, however, the owner is user:user, rather than user:group (that owns the directory).  as such, it's not really group owned as no one can edit anyone else's stuff in there.  how does one add
[04:49] <saliak> that situation?
[04:50] <delmer> anyone know why when I load a fullscreen game over wine, my monitor stops displaying? is it trying to open in a resolution that isn't supported? Is their a way to force a game in wine to launch at a certain resolution?
[04:51] <locoloco> Rexter: I'll take a closer look at the output and perhaps we reconnect tomorrow?
[04:51] <v1c3> is the menu in the windows instead of the panel or do i have a bug?
[04:52] <v1c3> talking about saucy
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Datz: Pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and I can tell you if you have a Wubi or normal install.
[04:53] <Coryn> is sshd safe to have?
[04:53] <ObrienDave> Rexter, meant laptop video port or video card
[04:54] <locoloco> ObrienDave: Rexter seem to have left us.
[04:54] <ObrienDave> ok, tnx
[04:55] <locoloco> ObrienDave: should be video card
[04:57] <ObrienDave> locoloco, was asking because 1368x768 is same rez as my laptop
[04:59] <locoloco> ObrienDave: mine too, used xrandr command in the passed to connect TV via VGA and thought the lessons learned could be applied
[04:59] <Zelbinian> Hey guys. So, I've installed proprietary AMD drivers for my Radeon card and now Unity won't launch :|
[05:00] <wafflejock> !ati | Zelbinian
[05:00] <Zelbinian> Well, yes, I followed those and now I am at the "Help!" step because something went wrong :p
[05:01] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: have you done the steps under "How to recover a non-booting system due to driver malfunction" ?
[05:01] <Zelbinian> No, because it does boot, it just doesn't load Unity. But I'll look at those.
[05:02] <Datz> Jordan_U: thanks, but I figured it out. reorder numerical order of files in /etc/grub.d/
[05:02] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah sorry don't have ATI so can't giveyou any more details really but those steps are to roll back the driver install so it may still help for the time being
[05:02] <Datz> cfhowlett^
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Datz: That is not recommended as it will break updating of those files when there are upgrades in the future.
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Datz, ok.  but look into the dual boot option.  Wubi failures are a huuuuuuge PITA and as it's a dying project ...
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Datz: Why do you want entries re-ordered?
[05:03] <Datz> so it doesn't boot to windows by default
[05:03] <Zelbinian> Ugh, it says press escape at the GRUB bootloader but it's not exactly clear when that happens when I reboot my system...
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Datz, easy fix.  increase your grub wait time so you can choose
[05:04] <Datz> I can choose, grub wait time is long enough
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Datz: You do that by editing the GRUB_DEFAULT option in /etc/default/grub, not by changing anything in /etc/grub.d/. I highly recommend that you revert all the changes you made to /etc/grub.d/.
[05:04] <Datz> humm, I've been using that method for quite awhile with no problems, I just forgot what I did
[05:05] <Zelbinian> Ok, so, I can't seem to get to recovery mode. Can I do this with a live CD?
[05:06] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[05:06] <wafflejock> right after the bios loads hold shift and you should see grub
[05:07] <delmer> 1
[05:07] <Datz> Jordan_U: what kind of upgrades will it break?
[05:08] <Datz> oh, updates to grub I suppose
[05:08] <wafflejock> Datz: man update-grub
[05:08] <Datz> eh, it'll probability just revert eh
[05:08] <Datz> wafflejock: yes, I just ran that
[05:09] <Zelbinian> Ah, ty, wafflejock
[05:09] <wafflejock> Datz: yeah so that gets run after certain system updates like you said
[05:09] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: np good luck there video problems can be a pain
[05:10] <wafflejock> Datz: and it regenerates the grub configuration that actually gets used so like others are suggesting here editing those output configuration files isn't best since they'll get wiped out later and you may forget what you did here to fix it and will have to do it again
[05:11] <Datz> wafflejock: I had to run update-grub for my changes to take place actually
[05:11] <Zelbinian> Ok, so I'm looking at these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto#How_to_recover_a_non-booting_system_due_to_driver_malfunction
[05:12] <wafflejock> Datz: ah k well I dropped in about half way through that conversation anyhow, but if that's the case I think you're in good shape Jordan_U or others I'm sure can confirm
[05:12] <Zelbinian> But during the "sh" step, I get an error that says "sh: 0: Can't open ./fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[05:12] <ldlework> Is there a way to reduce the area where a synaptics touchpad will respond?
[05:12] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: did you navigate to the ati folder?
[05:12] <Zelbinian> I did
[05:13] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: if so do an ls -al in there to see what else is in there if not the uninstall script
[05:13] <ldlework> IOW, cause the touchpad to ignore touching outside a certain range, for example?
[05:13] <Datz> well, there may be some longevity issues with my good shape as far as they are concerned wafflejock :P
[05:13] <Zelbinian> There's two directories: amdcccle and lib64
[05:13] <Zelbinian> I guess the AMD driver must have changed since those instructions were written
[05:14] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah must be...
[05:16] <Zelbinian> Remind me of the command to make the output in the terminal load one screen at a time?
[05:16] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: you can use dpkg -L fglrx-amdcccle to see what's in the package
[05:16] <MarGul> I have tried to google how to sftp upload files to my ubuntu-server with no luck. I've been trying the put command but can't get it to work. I use ubuntu 12.04 as my client. Anybody know a good GUI app for sftp transfer?
[05:16] <wafflejock> | less
[05:16] <wafflejock> like cat error.log | less
[05:17] <Zelbinian> Thanks
[05:17] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: sure thing
[05:18] <Zelbinian> Can I pipe that into a grep to look for only the files that have .sh ?
[05:18] <wafflejock> MarGul: does Filezilla not work?
[05:18] <zzxc>  Anyone know a good way from commandline to search all of the ip address in a range to see if a device is connected
[05:18] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah ls -al | grep .sh          should work
[05:19] <hw_> test
[05:19] <wafflejock> hw_: It Works!
[05:19] <hw_> thanks
[05:19] <zzxc> hw_: weclome to the channel.
[05:20] <wafflejock> zzxc: I think nmap will do it
[05:20] <MarGul> wafflejock: Thanks Im gonna look it up
[05:20] <wafflejock> zzxc: I'm not sure what the command would look like though
[05:21] <Zelbinian> Great. There doesn't seem to be an uninstall file.
[05:21] <Zelbinian> I don't know what to do now except reinstall.
[05:21] <Zelbinian> (This is why installing proprietary drivers were the first thing I did...)
[05:22] <zzxc> wafflejock: Yeah I've been poking around it, its doing a full detail on everything and what ports each machine is using. So It's a little slow.
[05:23] <wafflejock> zzxc: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>-255 -p22
[05:23] <wafflejock> that did it for just port 22 which was like 2.5 seconds on my network
[05:24] <zzxc> Ack. Well I answered my primary question, anywho. I have a headless home server that got reset while I was out of town, now its hanging when I try booting up and I'm not sure where at.
[05:24] <zzxc> wafflejock: Isn't 22 telenet?
[05:24] <wafflejock> zzxc: ssh
[05:25] <wafflejock> I have a raspberry pi and a few other things with open ssh on my network but it shows all the other devices too from what I can tell
[05:25] <zzxc> wafflejock: Mmmm 23 is telnet. I thought ssh was 21 but thats ftp.
[05:25] <wafflejock> zzxc: yeah lots of important stuff right around there
[05:26] <zzxc> wafflejock: yep. Theres a reason its in the lower set.
[05:27] <zzxc> I'd be interested if they ever try and repurpose the lower numbers, It would be a terrible idea, but there is nothing preventing it, and a lot of them aren't really used anymore.
[05:28] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I'd say try the remove/purge as suggested with apt-get in the instructions there, do the dpkg-reconfigure try the reboot, if not try editing xorg.conf directly then reboot
[05:28] <zzxc> wafflejock: Ohhhh did you here about the telnet-pocalyptics issue?
[05:28] <Zelbinian> So just remove, forgoing the uninstall script, cool.
[05:28] <wafflejock> zzxc: nope what's that about?
[05:28] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah I think it's your best bet right now
[05:29] <Zelbinian> Oh good grief, the ati directory doesn't exist under /etc
[05:29] <Zelbinian> What the heck happened with this install?
[05:30] <Zelbinian> Wait, nevermind, there it is
[05:30] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: well they could have just changed it like you said and the docs are out of date, though again not an ATI user so I'm not sure, I have intel graphics (not incredible) in my laptop and a nice GTX 670 in the desktop but abandoned ATI because I've always had trouble with the Linux drivers
[05:30] <Zelbinian> Welp, I've got an AMD processor so... those boards tend to work best with AMD cards. How it rolls.
[05:31] <wafflejock> indeed
[05:31] <samuraibsd> There's really nothing wrong with AMD GPUs under Ubuntu
[05:31] <samuraibsd> At least as far as my experience goes
[05:31] <wafflejock> samuraibsd: yeah I mean I'm talking like 5 years ago or something, things are probably better now
[05:31] <Damon> Hey I need some help, I made a usb stick to install ubuntu, when I installed it got 3/4th the way through then said I had a fatal grub2 error and froze before I could send bug report. I formatted the usb stick and am using unetbootin to make another now, is there anything I should do before attempting to install ubuntu again? (I want a dual windows/linux setup)
[05:32] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: The remove command is complaining about the "-purge" flag
[05:32] <samuraibsd> wafflejock: Yeah, things have changed considerably as of late. Even the open source drivers are giving me pretty reliably good performance
[05:33] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: wow yeah that looks wrong... it should be sudo apt-get purge fglrx-amdcccle
[05:33] <wafflejock> apt-get remove just gets rid of binaries leaving config
[05:33] <wafflejock> purge gets rid of both
[05:33] <Damon> like do I need to reformat the partition I tried to install ubuntu on?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> Damon, verify your ISO
[05:33] <zzxc> wafflejock: There was a paper published a while ago from a un-named grad student basically stating was poking around and started scanning for machines accepting port 23 handshakes.
[05:33] <cfhowlett> Damon, and assume that the previous install is hopelessly scrambled.  start over
[05:34] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Thanks. Friggin' wikis, huh? :p
[05:34] <Damon> right but if I have a good iso its fine and I dont need to somehow clean up the old one right?
[05:34] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah I suppose I should try to correct these things instead of just complaining, but too lazy right now :P
[05:34] <cfhowlett> Damon, if you made a USB with a bad ISO, you're gonna have a bad time
[05:35] <Damon> deleting it from the usb and reformatting the usb is enough right?
[05:35] <Guest36218> I have dual boot Ubuntu 13.04 and 13.10.  I dont want the 13.10 version anymore.  Can I just delete its partition and I will still boot into GRUB?
[05:35] <Zelbinian> This line "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" opens a new file... that seems wrong...
[05:36] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah think xorg.conf has moved... last edit on this doc was 12/16/2012
[05:36] <zzxc> wafflejock: (from the open net). they then tried the default debian user and password for telnet and got though to a good number of machines. Then basically uploaded a script to countine to search, try to login, and upload the script if it worked.
[05:36] <cfhowlett> Damon, delete and reformat
[05:36] <Damon> whole HD or just the USB?
[05:36] <Zelbinian> Cool, tracking it down
[05:36] <wafflejock> zzxc: huh that's pretty wild I'm not really too surprised though, lots of people set things up and think well I'll never be a target etc. etc.
[05:37] <samuraibsd> Has anyone run into gnome tweak tool crashing at launch on Gnome 3.8 with Ubuntu 13.04?
[05:37] <zzxc> wafflejock: (also included load balancers, and a way to access the machines).
[05:38] <cfhowlett> Damon, slow done, son.  3 steps here.  ONE: make a good USB to boot.  TWO: boot the USB  THREE: reformat the broken install on your HDD as you install again.
[05:38] <MarGul> wafflejock: Got filezilla installed and logged into my server. When I try and transfer my files to /usr/share/nginx/html I get an error with filepermission. On my client the files have 777. Is it because Im not logged in as root through sftp?
[05:39] <wafflejock> MarGul: you'll need to have permissions to write to whatever directory server side the client side permissions shouldn't really matter
[05:39] <zzxc> wafflejock: Yeah I know, but the crazy part was the scale of it. Granted a large number of machines were basically printers, old machines, routers, etc, but t
[05:39] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Someone's answer on a the Unix stack exchange: "The modern implementations of Xorg doesn't need a xorg.conf file, the configuration is automatic. And the correct place for the xorg.conf file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf."
[05:39] <Zelbinian> Is that correct?
[05:40] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I'm not a good one to ask on that, I know it has changed but I'm unsure of the details trying to read up on it here myself
[05:40] <Damon> cfhowlett - AHHH gotcha I have a couple more questions, 1. i got last iso from ubuntu website then made usb with unetbootin, now im downloading 12.04 LiveX64 with the built in download within unetbootin, thats 12.04 LST right? 2. How do I reformat once I boot with good usb? Like do I have to do a custom install?
[05:40] <Zelbinian> Gotcha. Well, we'll see what happens.
[05:41] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[05:41] <MarGul> wafflejock: okey that was that I figured. Can I set those file permissions through filezilla or I have to set the permissions with my account for the server?
[05:41] <Zelbinian> I installed the drivers with the command line method, but now I'm thinking those instructions are probably out of date, too.
[05:41] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: it looks like it has all been split up but I'm not sure of the relevance of the xorg.conf file now if it's still loaded if present and what precedence it gets
[05:41] <ilteris> hi everyone, I would appreciate if someone guides me what I am missing here: https://gist.github.com/ilteris/933f969acb1e3b92e279
[05:41] <wafflejock> MarGul: You'll have to be ssh'ed into the server to be able to change the permissions
[05:42] <ruby_on_tails> i have a gfx card with one monitor output, is it possible to have a 2 monitor display using that and the default motherboard monitor out on ubuntu?
[05:42] <zzxc> wafflejock: but there were 10's of millions of machines that were open, but that means that there is a huge botnet that is completely open to anyone who could do some basic scripting, that will probably never be fixed.
[05:42] <wafflejock> MarGul: depending on what you're doing it might be best to add the user to a group and give the group write permissions to the folder
[05:42] <wafflejock> zzxc: wow, well that kinda sucks, unless you need to DoS the bad guys :)
[05:42] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: It's cool. I think I'm just gonna reinstall the OS if I can't fix it through the recovery options
[05:43] <MarGul> wafflejock: Okey, for security reasons I just want my user, the only user on the system that can log in with ssh, to have the permissions. On it now , thanks for the help :)
[05:44] <wafflejock> MarGul: sure thing if you're concerned with security too you may want to consider going passwordless and using ssh keys if you're not already
[05:45] <MarGul> wafflejock: Yes Im doing that already. Just need to figure out to set the filepermissions for my account and I guess it should be all good
[05:46] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah should be, I had to tinker with that as well after setting up vsftpd on my server, but eventually got it mostly sorted and working fine
[05:46] <Damon> is ubuntu 12.04 Live, the same thing as 12.04 LST?
[05:47] <ruby_on_tails> anyone?
[05:47] <xangua> Damon: ubuntu 12.04 is LTS
[05:47] <Damon> thanks
[05:48] <Damon> I had a bad install from I guess a bad .iso, once I make another USB stick to install in how exactly do I reformat the partition I want to put 12.04 on?
[05:49] <MarGul> wafflejock: is it sudo chmod -R u+rw /usr/share/nginx/html for just giving my user permissions or I will have to change to owner of the dir?
[05:49] <wafflejock> MarGul: you have to be owner as well the u will apply to whoever owns the file
[05:49] <Zelbinian> waff
[05:49] <Zelbinian> Grr
[05:50] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Would you recommend just straight up deleting the /usr/share/ati directory?
[05:50] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I don't think it will really help anything
[05:50] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I feel like you just want to make sure that X isn't using the radeon driver but I'm not sure exactly where to point you to fix that
[05:51] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Ok, then. Bulldozing seems like the easiest solution at this point. Thanks for trying to help!
[05:52] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution <-- these seem to sort of point at where the xorg conf parts are at but just not sure what you'd need to change at this point to get back to your default drivers
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Damon, depends on the tool you're using; ubuntustartupdisk creator?
[05:53] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: also np hope you can still get it resolved somehow or a wipe isn't too big a deal, just be sure to back up any important files if it comes down to that
[05:53] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: This is a fresh install.  Like I said, this is why I mess with proprietary video drivers first. :)
[05:55] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: haha k cool have a coffee or beer or whatever your into and just take a snapshot after you get everything good if you've got some external storage, clonezilla has been very helpful for me in the past, it gets hardware info and some other stuff then runs dd on a drive/partition and handles everything from a boot iso
[05:55] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Unfortunately I'm down to one hdd at the moment, but I do have clonezilla
[05:56] <MarGul> wafflejock: I have no changed the permissions so my filetransfer got sucessful. But when I then try and access that file through my browser I get "access denied" :/
[05:56] <Zelbinian> Maybe this time I'll let it auto-update to 13.10
[05:56] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah I'm on 13.10 from a clean install and it's been really solid actually... using Kubuntu though
[05:56] <Damon> cfhowlett im using unetbootin and open to any suggestions
[05:56] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah so the thing is apache needs to be able to read the file
[05:57] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: I know, I know, I'm one of like, 30 people that actually like Unity
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Damon, format the usb, format the HDD, install
[05:57] <MarGul> wafflejock: Im using nginx
[05:57] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: haha well that's cool I'm sure the Unity developers appreciate it... I really thought Unity was okay but I like all the customization and widgets in KDE, couldn't resist I'm a tweaker
[05:57] <Damon> alright cool formatted the HDD, working on the USB, thanks alot
[05:59] <wafflejock> MarGul: k  I have 0 experience with nginx, but regardless the process that is going to serve up the files needs read access
[05:59] <MarGul> wafflejock: okey, gonna see what Mr.Google says
[06:01] <Isac> Hello
[06:01] <wafflejock> Isac: hello
[06:02] <Isac> shoud I take out all my harddrives but not that one I will install Ubuntu with to not risking install GRUB on my Windows Computer
[06:03] <pixiebit> Hey guys. A few weeks ago most Youtube videos stopped working for me. I don't know how to attempt debugging this or why it has happened, but I'd like to try.
[06:04] <Isac> I don't know why?
[06:04] <pixiebit> Is my computer beyond repair? Should I buy a desktop instead of a laptop? Should I switch to Apple? I don't know anymore.
[06:04] <Isac> do you have Adobe or something like that?
[06:04] <pixiebit> Most Youtube videos only play in Flash, yeah.
[06:04] <Coryn> ssh-id-copy just freezes, and ideas? (ssh to the very same stuff works though)
[06:04] <Foxhoundz> is there a GUI frontend for xset
[06:04] <pixiebit> But I can play some Flash Youtube videos.
[06:04] <Foxhoundz> and how do I save xset settings permanently?
[06:04] <Isac> You can switch to desktop
[06:04] <Foxhoundz> for all users?
[06:05] <Isac> I not reccomend to switch to apple
[06:05] <Isac> Thay are secret
[06:05] <pixiebit> Okay. I'll go buy a desktop immediately.
[06:06] <Isac> If you buy a desktop with good memory and graphic card a desktop would be alot faster
[06:06] <pixiebit> Okay I'll do that. I hope it'll fix my Youtube problem though.
[06:07] <pixiebit> Good thing I don't game at all. Otherwise this might extend to flash games.
[06:07]  * ObrienDave shakes his head and *poofs*
[06:07] <Isac> But ask the mans you are buying frpm what it could be
[06:07] <Isac> But ask the guys you are buying frpm what it could be
[06:07] <pixiebit> waht
[06:07] <Zelbinian> waffle
[06:07] <Isac> But ask the guys you are buying from* what it could be
[06:08] <pixiebit> what what could be
[06:08] <Zelbinian> Well, Unity was targeted at non-Linux people so... not surprised when Linux people gripe :)
[06:08] <Isac> The problem
[06:08] <pixiebit> Yeah I'm sorry I don't know how to debug arbitrary youtube weirdness. I'll just compile everything from source, like Adobe Flash.
[06:09] <Isac> Ok
[06:09] <Isac> need to go
[06:09] <pixiebit> Good thing my new desktop will compile everything faster.
[06:09] <Isac> yes
[06:09] <Isac> If you want games take win
[06:09] <fibz_> what is StartUbuntu?
[06:09] <Isac> If you want games take win dows
[06:10] <Isac> if you want terminal opeen source take ubuntu
[06:10] <pixiebit> Oh man, but I don't even play games.
[06:10] <Isac> if you want terminal and open source take ubuntu
[06:10] <Isac> ok
[06:10] <cfhowlett> fibz_, PR project
[06:11] <pixiebit> ok
[06:11] <Isac> then i reccomend Ubuntu
[06:11] <pixiebit> haha yeah i got ubuntu because I like being open source
[06:11] <fibz_> ok makes more sense now.
[06:11] <Isac> ahh ok
[06:11] <pixiebit> :)
[06:12] <Isac> but theres a programm called wine that you can download and with that run .exe files.
[06:12] <Isac> but theres a programm called wine that you can download and with that run .exe files.
[06:12] <MarGul> how will I give two users read permissions in a folder? Is that done with groups?
[06:13] <Isac> Goodbye
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Isac, SOME .exe files
[06:13] <pixiebit> oh yeah i have wine so i can play all my games
[06:13] <pixiebit> like starcraft 2
[06:13] <Isac> Yers
[06:13] <Isac> yes
[06:13] <Isac> Yes some of them
[06:13] <Isac> not all
[06:13] <kevin__> My name is Kevin Robert Chopra...I dont have anyone in my life and i'm not looking for sympathy I just wanted some people to know that I have made the decision to end my life through starvation.  About the right time of year also
[06:14] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah you can either have multiple users be in a group and give the group some particular permissions, or you can just give others read permission as well
[06:14] <pixiebit> kevin pls don't die
[06:14] <pixiebit> donate ur organs to charity first
[06:14] <cfhowlett> kevin__, so you came to ubuntu ... seems legit
[06:14] <Isac> No kevin
[06:14] <Isac> we like you :)
[06:15] <Isac> need to go
[06:15] <kevin__> I'm very serious, thank you for acknowledging
[06:16] <MarGul> wafflejock: Thanks, giving others read permission worked. That should not be a security risk right? Because I mean it can only read the files
[06:16] <samuraibsd> Anyone in here using Gnome 3.8 on 13.04?
[06:17] <xangua> !anyone | samuraibsd
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !anyone|samuraibsd,
[06:18] <samuraibsd> xangua: Thanks, I'm not new. Asking the question is silly without anyone actually using this stuff, since generally I'd get back silence.
[06:18] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah I have done the same so far on my box too, I believe it's okay for now, as you say it just allows other users who can connect to read those files which I'm not particularly concerned with, keep in mind I'm just another web developer not a security expert
[06:19] <wafflejock> MarGul: beyond file permissions you can protect things with server configuration and the like as well so ultimately it depends on what you're protecting and how you need to protect it (what is the potential for breach and outcome)
[06:20] <MarGul> wafflejock: Same I just try and learn some of the security. First time I'm running my own web server :)
[06:20] <samuraibsd> Anyway, tweak tool crashes immediately and throws up an X Window server error. Can't find any information about it online and reinstalling multiple things hasn't fixed it
[06:21] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah I set up an AWS box about a year ago but am very happy with doing so, have my own git and all and serving quite a few sites from a micro instance (like 1Ghz proc and 512MB of RAM or so) without issue
[06:22] <wafflejock> MarGul: there are lots of guides out there too http://www.sans.org/score/checklists/linuxchecklist.pdf hardening the server stuff
[06:22] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: What is the exact error message?
[06:22] <samuraibsd> Gsettings missing key org.gnome.nautilus.dexktop, then a Gdk error...let me figure out how to paste it somewhere
[06:23] <wafflejock> !paste > samuraibsd
[06:24] <MarGul> wafflejock: Yeah I have been reading a lot latly and the thing is that there is so many different security settings. I just want a web server thats more secure then most of the other ones out there. Keeping a web server completly secure would mean taking it off the Internet :)
[06:25] <wafflejock> MarGul: true, but the more you know the better off you are, I do stuff that's DB driven so it's sometimes a concern, don't want prying eyes and can't be storing peoples passwords plaintext and things like that
[06:26] <samuraibsd> Well, that plan won't work. Terminal seems to crash whenever I try to grab the error.
[06:26] <MarGul> wafflejock: Thats true. Gonna first try and set up the server with php and mysql somehow secure and then the rest is done by code. But there is just so many options, dont know when to stop hehe
[06:27] <samuraibsd> Like that.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: How are you trying to "grab" the error message?
[06:28] <lawl> Hello, all my menu/activity bars are having some odd font-color wich make them hard to read. This occured since i upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04. Maybe iv'e installed some package on the 12.04. Check this picture: http://i42.tinypic.com/2diobgl.jpg
[06:28] <samuraibsd> Jordan_U: Trying to highlight and using the Edit menu causes a crash. I haven't tried the pastebin python script yet
[06:28] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah I mean between phPass and using SSL and SSH for everything (some sort of firewall) I think you'd have a pretty tight system and so long as you take backups of everything then there's not too much reason to worry unless you need government compliance for security or something... in which case you can pay someone to come help harden the system probably
[06:30] <MarGul> wafflejock: Exactly. Do you know what kind of settings you are using for your php.ini file? I raned the script: https://www.idontplaydarts.com/2011/02/hardening-and-securing-php-on-linux/ . Should be good with that, dont want to lock it down to much either. Prob gonna give me some problems developing in the future
[06:32] <wafflejock> MarGul: I actually haven't fine tuned my php.ini on the server yet I believe it's not very verbose by default anyhow but I don't really have any live sites with DB backing coming from my server, just some development stuff being tested then pushed out to actual live servers atm... would be good to go through and clean that up they suggest in the comments what the values should be for development vs production too
[06:33] <MarGul> wafflejock: Yeah I saw that. Well gonna try and fine tune it now. Hopefully I can get my site up tonight :)
[06:34] <lawl> I only changed the theme in visual settings and it works now thx
[06:34] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah good luck, once you get one configured the rest is easy peasy, just a matter of getting through the first one
[06:35] <Jay_R> Anyone ever have success getting rid of a half-installed package? Did sudo apt-get install -f, however, subprocess is return a non-zero exit status.
[06:35] <Jay_R> Looks like it's erroring out on trying to delete directory that don't exist. Can post screenshot if it helps.
[06:39] <samuraibsd> Alright, I can't figure out a way to capture the output of this command. Trying to copy out of a terminal window causes terminal to crash and pastebinit won't intercept anything
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Jay_R: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install" (by posting the text to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[06:39] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: gnome-tweak-tool 2>&1 | pastebinit
[06:40] <samuraibsd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6513069/
[06:41] <samuraibsd> Terminal seems really unstable...
[06:43] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: I think that you have a problem that is affecting the stability of multiple apps (i.e. the gnome-terminal crashes and the gnome-tweak-tool crashes are related).
[06:43] <hellslinger>  does anyone know where default login information for users is stored? specificially, what session to log into from kdm/ligthdm?
[06:43] <samuraibsd> Jordan_U: I've tried getting rid of Gnome entirely and then bringing it back, but it didn't help
[06:46] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: Try logging in with a guest session and see if you can reproduce the problems you're having.
[06:46] <samuraibsd> Sure. Be back soon.
[06:47] <YaMoonSun> Excuse me, I'm having trouble installing webcamstudio - "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse'
[06:48] <samuraibsd> Yup, same issues under the guest account
[06:48] <linuxlite1969> hi
[06:49] <YaMoonSun> Hello
[06:49] <linuxlite1969> i need help yamoonsun
[06:49] <YaMoonSun> Help with what, mate?
[06:50] <linuxlite1969> YaMoonSun i want to spoof my ip and mac address. i know how to spoof my mac but my ip i cant
[06:50] <YaMoonSun> Your local IP, or external?
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> YaMoonSun is there a way where i can spooc ip and mac at the same time?
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> my localip
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> i mean when i ifconfig wlan0
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> i want to change the mac and ip address
[06:52] <samuraibsd> And I'd like to fix the Gnome stuff just because I'm hot a huge fan of any other DE out there right now.
[06:52] <samuraibsd> not a huge*
[06:52] <YaMoonSun> I wish I could be of further assistance, but I'm uneducated in that department. I'm learning a tad bit myself still.
[06:53] <linuxlite1969> ok still thanks anyway YaMoonSun
[06:53] <YaMoonSun> Sure thing, mate; Which distribution are you using right now?
[06:53] <YaMoonSun> Stick around, I'm sure someone will come to your aid.
[06:53] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: Are you referring to me?
[06:53] <linuxlite1969> im using linuxlite
[06:54] <linuxlite1969> ok hahah YaMoonSun
[06:55] <YaMoonSun> ah =3
[06:57] <Jay_R> Jordan_U: Posted in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <samuraibsd> Jordan_U: Any suggestions?
[06:58] <Jay_R> URL is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6513106/
[06:58] <YaMoonSun> wb samurai
[06:59] <Jay_R> Seems like the hangup is on those directories that don't exist. Is there a way I can tell apt or dpkg to ignore that?
[07:00] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: Thanks, but I'll probably crash again before this actually gets sent
[07:00] <samuraibsd> ...or not.
[07:01] <YaMoonSun> I think I came in a few moment too late and failed to overhear your issue.
[07:03] <Damon> Hey, I just got through installing ubuntu, it said I have to restart to start using it, it restarted and I just went straight into windows, and I tried restarting again and still no option to boot into ubuntu, what do i do?
[07:03] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: Tweak tool crashes upon launch and Terminal crashes basically whenever I interact with it any further than basic typing
[07:04] <samuraibsd> Which is why I keep dropping out of the channel.
[07:04] <YaMoonSun> Damon, ubuntu should have installed grub bootloader which allows you to select your operating system.
[07:04] <Jay_R> Damon, had that issue too. Here's a link for a great tutorial that helped me repair GRUB. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:05] <Damon> gonna read it, thanks :)
[07:05] <tokern3> how can i install pktgen module?
[07:05] <YaMoonSun> Tweak tool, huh? You're running BSD right now?
[07:05] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: No, I'm running Ubuntu. If I were running BSD right now I'd be in a BSD channel, wouldn't I? :P
[07:06] <Damon> thanks guys gonna go try that
[07:06] <larky2013> hi
[07:06] <YaMoonSun> I suppose so, but I'm using Lubuntu so I bet there are quite a few OS's being used in this chat.
[07:07] <tokern3> i do not have pktgen module on my system!! and i don't know why. i'm trying to install it but do not know the way and i found nothing about installing it's module in internet.
[07:07] <YaMoonSun> Hello larky
[07:07] <YaMoonSun> Hope damon has a windows disc backed up, lol
[07:07] <larky2013> Is there any SSL guru here?
[07:07] <larky2013> Hi YaMoonSun
[07:07] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: A reasonable assumption. My name is a BSD reference.
[07:07]  * YaMoonSun is pretty sure there is, but I'm not him.
[07:08] <YaMoonSun> SSL was easy when I was a teenager, but I only learned what I needed. What are you trying to achieve?
[07:09] <Evan___> yay
[07:10] <Evan___> trying to run a deb binary
[07:10] <YaMoonSun> I think chkrootkit is providing false feedback - There's no way I have a rootkit.
[07:10] <Evan___> deb ./d$ No command 'deb' found, did you mean:  Command 'debc' from package 'devscripts' (main)  Command 'derb' from package 'libicu-dev' (main)  Command 'dab' from package 'bsdgames' (universe)  Command 'debi' from package 'devscripts' (main)  Command 'xdeb' from package 'xdeb' (universe) deb: command not found
[07:11] <larky2013> I just want to know if it is possible to create/buy SSL cert for domain with multiple levels of subdomains. IE: I want to have one cert for abc.def.domain.tld abc.def.ghi.domain.tld a.domain.tld etc, all abc, def subdomains are dynamic (I don't know all subdomains during cert creation process)
[07:11] <Evan___> shut up larky just use a window is what i was told
[07:12] <YaMoonSun> Wow, what a twat =/
[07:12] <larky2013> hehe, old irc... %)
[07:13] <YaMoonSun> Sorry sir, you already sound more advanced than I would consider myself via SSL - Lurk though, you might have some luck.
[07:13] <larky2013> YaMoonSun: np
[07:16] <YaMoonSun> clear
[07:20] <Gotango> Has ubuntu reached 200 Million users yet ?
[07:26] <xubun2> i am using xubuntu 13.10. i got an update for the linux-image to 3.11.0-14. after i ran the update and restarted the computer, i find that all the windows are missing the titlebar on top. the workspaces panel is only showing one workspace. and quite often its difficult to type into a given window because the text starts to appear in another window below. i rebooted and switched to the earlier 3.11.0-13 but still no luck.. anyone know what i can do?
[07:26] <balajics> I am using ubuntu 13.04, network auto reconnect takes > 30 seconds when waking from sleep or in boot. Is there anyway to reduce this?
[07:27] <Beldar> xubun2, Are you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[07:30] <vocx> xubun2, I think I had the same problem. I switched to the normal desktop, without Unity, and then the video drivers where updated and then Unity worked again fine.
[07:30] <Name141> Does 12.04 have the acceloration for the 4670 ?
[07:31] <samuraibsd> Reup on question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6513207/ Any tips on fixing this? Also, Terminal is unstable and may be related.
[07:31] <xubun2> Beldar, no i'm not
[07:31] <xubun2> vocx, i'm not using Unity i dont think - i'm using xfce
[07:32] <Beldar> vocx, what is the normal desktop?
[07:32] <YaMoonSun> I /clear
[07:32] <makara> hi. The menubar (File, Edit, ...) of some apps is unavailable. How can I get to it?
[07:33] <Beldar> xubun2, Have you removed any of the other desktops, and or modified xfce, or had problems with kernel updates so far?
[07:35] <vocx> Beldar, I don't know how to call the Non-Unity desktop of Gnome. I install the package, fallback? Something like that.
[07:35] <Beldar> samuraibsd, gnome 3.8 is a ppa in 13.04 and is not supported.
[07:35] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yes, I've noticed. Is there some way to fix this error, or am I just going to have to reinstall?
[07:36] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You can run ppa-purge on that ppa and get back to stock.
[07:36] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | samuraibsd
[07:36] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I know that as well. Is there a way to keep 3.8 and still be stable?
[07:37] <Beldar> vocx, There is the gnome shell, and the fallback and there is a gnome shell install all alone.
[07:37] <Beldar> samuraibsd,  I would not know, and it is not supported here in that config.
[07:38] <xubun2> Beldar, i haven't made any changes to xfce recently or since i installed it. and never had a problem with a kernel update before. it was working fine an hour ago right till i installed the update and restarted
[07:38] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You would really have to contact the ppa owner or gnome developers.
[07:39] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Not worth it, then. I guess I'm back to 3.4
[07:39] <Beldar> xubun2, Have you removed any other desktops?
[07:40] <xubun2> Beldar, what do you mean?
[07:40] <Beldar> xubun2, Some install regular ubuntu with unity and remove unity.
[07:41] <xubun2> no i installed xubuntu here with default options and only installed xfce
[07:41] <Beldar> xubun2, ubuntu does not install with xfce alone unless you use a net install, have you removed any other desktops?
[07:41] <Beldar> xubun2, Cool a xubuntu install, try booting to it to see how it looks.
[07:41] <oliver_753> exit
[07:41] <oliver_753> logout
[07:42] <nevyn> /quit
[07:42] <xubun2> Beldar, i downloaded xubuntu 13.04 from what i remember there was no unity components selected as part of the install
[07:42] <aeaglez> lol i was about to write that
[07:42] <aeaglez> there is a net ubuntu version?
[07:43] <Beldar> xubun2, Cool you can install xubuntu, kubuntu, and lubuntu jsu wahted to meake sure we are on the same page.
[07:43] <Beldar> aeaglez, you can do a net install with a mini cd
[07:44] <xubun2> Beldar, yes i've installed xubuntu from the downloaded install media, not switched to xfce from ubuntu
[07:44] <aeaglez> but how do i get new notifications that a new version is available?
[07:45] <Beldar> aeaglez, software-properties-gtk  in updates bottom dropdown set it to all releases.
[07:46] <Beldar> for any new version is the actual choice
[07:46] <Damon> so I cant get an option to boot into ubuntu it automatically puts me in windows, I followed the boot-repair guide but when im in terminal it wont install and asks me if someone else is using the program or says I dont have privileges, can someone help me?
[07:47] <Beldar> Damon, post the bootinfo summary that was generated when using that tool
[07:47] <aeaglez> do you have windows 8?
[07:47] <aeaglez> no i might know how to fix this Beldar
[07:47] <Damon> wont let me use the tool, I cant install it on my live USB ubuntu try ubuntu option
[07:47] <Beldar> Damon, where you in a admin account when you ran the tool.
[07:47] <Damon> im on windows 7
[07:48] <Beldar> Damon, Do not help unless you are sure.
[07:48] <Damon> I dont know didnt give me a choice of users, im totally new to this
[07:48] <Beldar> aeaglez, Do not help unless you are sure.
[07:48] <Beldar> Damon, sorry meant that for other user
[07:48] <Damon> np
[07:49] <Beldar> Damon, bootrepiar runs in ubuntu
[07:49] <aeaglez> if it was windows 8 i know how to access uefi but im not sure if the same rule applies for win7
[07:50] <ab`> Damon: you mean you can't install boot-repair?
[07:50] <Damon> yea I was following the guide and trying to install it in the 'try ubuntu' option of of my live ubuntu usb,
[07:50] <Beldar> including the download of it and addinf the ppa Damon
[07:50] <Damon> yea exactly
[07:50] <dp_wiz> Is it too risky to switch to tahr from saucy yet?
[07:50] <Beldar> Damon, You have to be on the live desktop to add the ppa and install it and run it.
[07:51] <Damon> I was just there and couldnt get it to work so I restarted into windows to come ask u guys
[07:51] <ab`> Damon: how did you try to install it? (apt-get, software-center etc...)
[07:51] <Damon> sudo apt-get boot-repair or something similair, couldnt get sudo apt-get update to work either
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> dp_wiz: if it's beta, then yeah of course. it's beta for a reason
[07:52] <Gorroth> sudo make_sandwich -for me
[07:52] <Beldar> Damon, a live environment should install it, did you follow the bootrepiar wiki?
[07:52] <dp_wiz> aeon-ltd: it's not even an alpha1 (=
[07:52] <Damon> yea
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> dp_wiz: then it's even more likely to unstable
[07:52] <Beldar> !ot | Gorroth
[07:52] <Damon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair < the guide I used
[07:53] <Gorroth> oh, was the talk about windows 8 and windows 7 on topic?
[07:53] <dp_wiz> aeon-ltd: yeah. but i had some success with alphaX from 12.x and 13.04... It's the 13.10 release fiasko that frightens me.
[07:53] <ab`> Damon: what error did apt-get throw exactly?
[07:54] <Damon> I actually didnt do one of the lkines im looking at
[07:54] <Beldar> Damon, try it again being sure to follow the wiki exactly, there is no reason a correctly loaded live ubuntu should not work.
[07:54] <Beldar> ah missing link, hehe
[07:54] <Damon> said It was in use or I didnt have privilges
[07:54] <Damon> ill try again and come back if doesnt work
[07:54] <Damon> thanks alot
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> dp_wiz: if you wanted to be on the bleeding edge, you should look at other distros. but then there aren't many like ubuntu (if you use unity)
[07:54] <Beldar> Damon, cool, good luck.
[07:55] <croneur> hi
[07:55] <croneur> i am new user
[07:55] <lnxusr232> does anyone know the keyboard shortcut for word count/ character count in gnu nano? I'm searching online and looking through the man but only finding the console command
[07:55] <Beldar> !yay | croneur
[07:56] <dp_wiz> aeon-ltd: of course i love unity (:
[07:57] <samuraibsd> Tried to PPA purge, and it told me "something went wrong" and that not all the packages may have been reverted.
[07:57] <samuraibsd> How screwed am I?
[07:58] <Beldar> samuraibsd, Did you use ppa-purge like the bots links show?
[07:59] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yeah, same way I always do.
[07:59] <samuraibsd> I've actually never seen this error before
[07:59] <Beldar> samuraibsd, Have you modified the desktop in other ways, you were using the shell?
[08:00] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Elaborate on your definition of "modified the desktop"
[08:00] <lnxusr232> (for example, ^c gives a character count and line count. but there is an option to get a word count... hm)
[08:00] <Beldar> samuraibsd, anything more than adding the 3.8 ppa.
[08:00] <Beldar> not including aadons
[08:01] <Evan___> ps ax | grep dpkg  2887 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=black dpkg     =     starts wine install
[08:01] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I've installed a ton of software over the two years this system has been up. It didn't go bad until today.
[08:01] <Beldar> samuraibsd, So this is an upgrade OS it sounds like and you have no memory of the details
[08:02] <Evan___> Goal: Remove Wine
[08:02] <samuraibsd> Beldar: 13.04 was a clean install at the time, but I put all my old applications back.
[08:02] <Beldar> samuraibsd, In what manner?
[08:03] <samuraibsd> probably apt-get unless it was something I couldn't get otherwise
[08:04] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I am not sure here, however one of the keys to a stable system is being able to know what you have done, how it was installed and how to remove it and how it effects other parts of the OS.
[08:05] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yes, I know. That's why moving to Ubuntu has been rather difficult for me. Automatic dependency resolution makes it too easy to commit changes that you don't remember
[08:05] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I learned that the hardway.
[08:05] <Beldar> you maybe at that point to
[08:06] <samuraibsd> Part of me wants to move back to Slackware
[08:06] <anton02> if you have windows 8 UEFI installed what's the best way to go about installing ubuntu?
[08:07] <anton02> sorry i forgot to place a comma after 'installed'
[08:07] <Beldar> samuraibsd, 3.10 has a fair warning of instability, the 3.8 somewhat hints at that, so you want to be aware of running ppa's in general is all.
[08:08] <anton02> I mean in a dual boot configuration with windows
[08:08] <samuraibsd> Beldar: If I give up on Gnome3, would you have any recommendations on making Unity better for day to day use?
[08:08] <Beldar> !uefi | anton02
[08:08] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I use the shell but no ppa versions
[08:08] <anton02> "Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Trial and Error" I lel'd
[08:09] <aeaglez> are there any programmer channels on irc?
[08:09] <anton02> aeaglez: ##c
[08:09] <dp_wiz> anton02: "Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Fear and Loathing"
[08:09] <anton02> aeaglez: pretty much, the language is == the channel name
[08:10] <lesshaste> can anyone recommend a checkers/draughts implementation for ubuntu?
[08:10] <Boneheads1999> I need help with minitube, for those who know what it is.  The video loads fast and all, but the colors are screwed up.
[08:10] <Boneheads1999> it's not the monitor btw.
[08:10] <Beldar> anton02, hee is more info, and I think one of the best helpers "the mod" in this area, image/clone the W8 and use its disk manager to resize it before installing ubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:10] <Boneheads1999> already checked.
[08:10] <Beldar> here*
[08:10] <Evan___> The colors are encrypted with somebody else's vision.
[08:10] <samuraibsd> Ugh, PPAs suck
[08:10] <dp_wiz> samuraibsd: why?
[08:11] <anton02> why does it actually say 'via trial and error' in that heading though at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[08:11] <samuraibsd> dp_wiz: Seems more trouble than it's worth. I'm trying to fix a broken system here and it seems like PPAs led me to this point. I'm not used to systems like this.
[08:11] <lesshaste> when I do "apt-cache search checkers" it gives me lots of things that don't look like the game checkers
[08:11] <Beldar> Evan___, Are actually talking to anyone?
[08:11] <lesshaste> what is the right way to search?
[08:11] <aeaglez> anton02:it is saying i have to register
[08:11] <Boneheads1999> Evan___: was that an answer to my question?
[08:12] <Evan___> Beldar I just made my computer beep typing this in.
[08:12] <dp_wiz> samuraibsd: never stumbled on anything apt-get purge can't solve...
[08:12] <anton02> aeaglez: register your IRC nick, i forgot how so don't ask me
[08:12] <Boneheads1999> I shall post again in case there's somebody new to help.  My Minitube colors are all messed up.
[08:12] <samuraibsd> dp_wiz: Doesn't seem to be solving my problem here. We're moving ever closer to just reinstalling.
[08:12] <Boneheads1999> Minitube is an app to watch youtube videos on, btw.
[08:13] <Beldar> Evan___, If this is a bot take it off now, the next one I will notify the ops.
[08:13] <Evan___> Beldar. This is not a bot. My computer beeped again.
[08:13] <Beldar> !ot | Evan___
[08:13] <aeaglez> i thought i register it when i log on to this
[08:13] <aeaglez> it asks me what i want my real name and nick name and thats it, or is there more?
[08:14] <fidel_> aeaglez: register -> you should find more informations in the freenode faq
[08:14] <Evan___> Belday I am confused about my computer.
[08:14] <Beldar> !register | aeaglez
[08:14] <Evan___> First I thought I would get skype.
[08:14] <Beldar> Evan___, Then make a cogent description of the details of the problem.
[08:14] <Evan___> Then I got the deb binary file.
[08:15] <Evan___> Then I thought I needed Wine to run it.
[08:15] <Evan___> Now when I type a weird command in my computer Wine setup starts.
[08:15] <Beldar> Evan___, Stop this is not chat but support.
[08:16] <Evan___> This command is a process stuck on I think.
[08:16] <anton02> can ubuntu use window's EFI partition or does it need a new one?
[08:16] <Beldar> !ops | Evan___ random mindless posts
[08:16] <fibz_> anton02,  you will need a dedicated partition for ubuntu
[08:17] <samuraibsd> Well, now there's a bunch of broken packages that won't auto resolve. Should never have gone with this setup
[08:17] <Myrtti> Evan___: no, you don't need Wine to run Skype
[08:17] <Evan___> Do random mindless posts help channel?
[08:17] <Myrtti> Evan___: on the other hand I can't remember how to get rid of that wine association either
[08:17] <Myrtti> Evan___: no.
[08:18] <Evan___> So Wine is burned into my system?
[08:18] <Myrtti> Evan___: no
[08:18] <shift1> lol
[08:18] <fibz_> if you dont need wine, just uninstall it. problem solved.
[08:18] <Evan___> attempting to uninstall bitch fibz
[08:19] <shift1> Beldar:btw can i ask what metacity -- replace does? does it do something with the compiz?
[08:19] <skataria1> i have ubuntu machine with two network cards and configured two ips in my lan (<IP_ADDRESS>) and <IP_ADDRESS> i want to ping this machine using hostname in my lan
[08:19] <Evan___> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:19] <Pricey> Evan___: Are you human?
[08:20] <Evan___> Pricey I am very human I promise.
[08:20] <fibz_> Evan___,  something is surrently instaling/uninstalling. wait for it to finish. if thei si not the case, reboot
[08:20] <Evan___> I have all ready restarted my computer once.
[08:20] <Pricey> fibz_: eeek no don't reboot
[08:20] <Evan___> While dealing with this bug.
[08:21] <samuraibsd> Okay, trying to reinstall gnome-shell 3.6 gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6513366/
[08:22] <samuraibsd> ran an apt-get update, tried to see if there were packages on hold, but there appear to be none
[08:22] <Evan___> I shale attempt to install the dependencies samuraidbs.
[08:23] <Evan___> *Samuraibsd
[08:24] <Gorroth> (echo '#include <stdio.h>' ; echo 'int main() { printf("Here is your sandwich, honey.\n"); return 0; }') > sandwich.c ; echo -e 'me_a_sandwich:\n\tgcc sandwich.c -o sandwich' > Makefile ; make me_a_sandwich ; ./sandwich
[08:24] <shift1> Aye laddy, ye know knee pain, what a real angus are you
[08:24] <Gorroth> that seems legit for this channel
[08:24] <shift1> wrong chat
[08:25] <Evan___> Another lock error.
[08:25] <Evan___> I shale try to look past apt-get
[08:26] <Evan___> apt-get can not update
[08:26] <adj_> hey this is damon, I got ubuntu work after bootrepair but I wanted to know if its normal to have a boot option screen where theres 2 options for windows and it just says windows then location on hd partition
[08:26] <skataria1> any one there...cannot ping my ubuntu system using hostname
[08:27] <samuraibsd> Alright, Gnome is just hosed. Guess I'll be getting used to Unity. Is there a way to make the "glass" behind the icons go away?
[08:27] <samuraibsd> On the launcher
[08:27] <eyfour> Should I report lightdm-related bugs for the 14.04 daily images? Or should I wait until Trusty is in alpha/beta? Thanks.
[08:27] <Beldar> adj_, The windows recovery at times shows in the grub menu
[08:27] <Evan___> After many failures: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:27] <mantas>  hello, what is the best cloud for own server?
[08:28] <adj_> ah alright thats what I thought it just didnt say recovery
[08:28] <Gorroth> Beldar: i made my sandwich request a little more friendly to unix and ubuntu
[08:28] <adj_> guess not a big deal
[08:29] <Evan___> Unknown directory lock /var/lib/dpkg/
[08:29] <Beldar> adj_, JUst be careful, I believe if you hit the recovery nothing would happen til you said yes run it, but you want to be aware is all, if that is actually what is there.
[08:29] <adj_> alright man
[08:30] <Evan___> Recover recovers fast but I refuse.
[08:30] <adj_> thanks alot I spent like 8 hours trying to get ubuntu running I really appreciate the help
[08:30] <Beldar> adj_, glad you got it resolved, enjoy. ;)
[08:31] <adj_> cheers
[08:31] <Beldar> ;)
[08:32] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks! I've just found "ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" in my /etc/sudoers, and I've not added it. Is there any package in the repositories that does this? Is this a known bug of a package?
[08:33] <Gorroth> you probably did that sometime and don't recall
[08:33] <Beldar> GeorgeJ, It would take admin authorization to do that.
[08:33] <GeorgeJ> I know it does. And no Gorroth, I would never do such a thing.
[08:34] <Gorroth> maybe a college dorm-mate did it in single-user mode
[08:34] <Jordan_U> !dpkglock | Evan___