[00:56] <notlistening> Hi is the 64 but mythubuntu iso going to run on an atom 330 ion system?
 *bit
[01:45] <Essobi> notlistening: Umm... don't think that's 64 bit... or even a compat archi...
[01:53] <tmetro> That was my initial impression of Atom too, but the other day I looked it up and read:
[01:54] <tmetro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom
[01:54] <tmetro> "Atom implements the x86 (IA-32) instruction set; x86-64 is so far only activated for the Atom 230 and 330 desktop models. N and Z series Atom models cannot run x86-64 code."
[01:54] <Essobi> welp.. give it a twirl then
[01:55] <tmetro> So it's just a power-saving x86 compatible CPU, where more instructions are implemented in microcode, rather than hardware, and thus take more cycles.
[02:02] <Essobi> ...
[02:02] <Essobi> I guess it takes less power to cycle the microcode then to flop the gates on real hardware..
[02:09] <notlistening> i'll whirl it up as soon as i get the ATX power connector adaptor tomorrow
[14:59] <Essobi> Morning.
[17:13] <fdlinux> hi
[17:14] <rhpot1991> hi
[17:14] <wombo> hi
[17:14] <fdlinux> having a problem with setting the date to rtc alarm with MythWakeSet , will give the output
[17:14] <fdlinux> frederik@myth:~$ sudo sh /usr/bin/MythWakeSet.sh
[17:14] <fdlinux> date: invalid date `  +0200'
[17:14] <fdlinux> if i do it manually , it works , so that's no problem
[17:15] <fdlinux> or doesn't anyone have a goot howto because there are alot for it
[17:16] <fdlinux> i am also running 9.04
[17:16] <fdlinux> i know i got it working 7 months ago  , but don't remember how
[17:17] <fdlinux> anyone got a idea ?
[17:23] <superm1> fdlinux, try using bash instead of sh
[17:24] <superm1> sh assumes POSIX compatibility
[17:25] <fdlinux> then it doesn't find the file
[17:25] <superm1> eg sudo bash /usr/bin/MythWakeSet.sh fails because it cant find the file?
[17:25] <superm1> but sudo sh /usr/bin/MythWakeSet.sh works?
[17:25] <superm1> that's bizarre
[17:26] <fdlinux> if i do it as root is says can't open bash
[17:26] <superm1> is your bash messed up?
[17:26] <superm1> does 'which bash' work?
[17:26] <fdlinux> out /bin/bash
[17:27] <fdlinux> output
[17:27] <superm1> and 'sudo which bash' doesn't work?
[17:28] <fdlinux> same output
[17:29] <superm1> then it should be working just fine
[17:30] <fdlinux> stil the problem
[17:31] <fdlinux> anyone here using MythWakeSet ? or something else?
[17:32] <fdlinux> using the script for ubuntu : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/ACPIWake
[17:43] <bobbob1016> For some reason mythbuntu started going to sleep on me after 5 minutes of watching a video.  I've tried the xset dpms thing, and all my settings say never go to sleep, any ideas?
[17:43] <bobbob1016> Seems like it started after an update.
[17:45] <fdlinux> anyone?
[17:45] <fdlinux> otherwise i do a reinstall , maybe i did something terrible wrong
[17:56] <bobbob1016> fdlinux: Just so you know, people here aren't ignoring you, they aren't here usually.  So "otherwise I do a reinstall" doesn't help, patience does though.
[17:57] <fdlinux> i shall wait , my gf should be here in minutes so the mce will be there for movies:)
[18:45] <hanfm> hallo, ich habe ein frisches mythbuntu 9.04 aufgesetzt, das system fährt auch hoch und die xfce4 oberfläche funktioniert einwandfrei, allerdings sieht man in mythtv nur einen grauen hintergrund mit schwarzen balken. weiß jemand woran dass liegen könnte
[20:53] <Joker_-_> Hey. I'm getting artifacts when listening to TV. Could it be related to the fact I have resized the screen? (NVidia drivers + tv-out + crt TV = 1 inche missing all around the screen). Mythbuntu 64 bits, nvidia geforce 9800, proprietary drivers.
[20:53] <Joker_-_> hauppauge pvr-150 tv-tuner
[20:55] <Seeker`> what sort of artifacts?
[20:55] <Joker_-_> Hard to describe, it's not like the artifacts you get when overclocking a video card too hard, but the screen flickers.
[20:55] <Joker_-_> it's not all the time either
[20:56] <Joker_-_> I was suspecting a poor signal but now the tv-tuner is hooked directly to the cable tv, no splitter or anything... still get that flickering.
[20:56] <Joker_-_> and the image is "as sharp as cable can be" if I check it directly trough the TV.
[20:57] <Joker_-_> I have found that the signal seems to have much noise when getting out of the tv-tuner card tho
[20:58] <Joker_-_> oh, discard that, I forgot it's not a tv-out the tv-tuner has.
[20:58] <Joker_-_> I tought I found the problem when I first tryed that but it's not a tv-out, it's an FM-in... :)
[20:58] <Joker_-_> well, discard the noise thing, not the whole problem :)
[21:00] <Joker_-_> any idea?
[21:06] <Seeker`> is it horizontal lines when the screen pans?
[21:07] <Joker_-_> nope, more like parts of the image are getting anywhere... liek a corrupted jpeg image
[21:07] <Seeker`> hmm
[21:08] <Seeker`> was wondering if it was the image tearing
[21:09] <Joker_-_> it seems to be worse from time to time. Getting a real cause --> effect isnt simple but I'd say when the contrast is higher, it's worse. There is defenitly a pattern tho.
[21:09] <Seeker`> what do you mean "aren't getting anywhere"?
[21:09] <Joker_-_> sometimes when listening to a channel where 2 camera are kind of static, switching from one to an other. one can flicker all the time, and the other wont
[21:09] <Joker_-_> probably related to the background or something like that
[21:09] <Seeker`> hmm
[21:09] <Seeker`> no idea then
[21:10] <Joker_-_> Seeker`: as if the image was deconstructed in pieces and reconstructed with some pieces randomly getting anywhere on the screen
[21:11] <Joker_-_> just like a jpeg corruption. Parts of the image gets miss-aligned and all..
[21:11] <Seeker`> sure it isn't a bad signal?
[21:12] <Joker_-_> it could be the tv-tuner that encodes in mpeg2 and somehow bugs for some reasons...
[21:12] <Joker_-_> Seeker`: I can't be 100% sure as I can't "see" the signal the tuner gets versus the noise the computer gives to it, but if I hook the tv directly to that same cable, it's cristal clear
[21:13] <Seeker`> hmm
[21:13] <Seeker`> my tuner is worse at getting a signal than the TV
[21:13] <Seeker`> haven't tried my 150 in ages
[21:13] <Joker_-_> I tought it was a signal problem since it was working fine in a previous appartment where I had cable, then mooved and didnt had cable and it started to do that. Now I got the cable back and it stills does it so...
[21:14] <Joker_-_> yeah I tend to agree with that, I should try a signal booster maybe?
[21:14] <Seeker`> if you've got one it can't hurt
[21:14] <Joker_-_> I tryed to put a video between the cable and my mythtv box btu ti didnt helped at all..
[21:14] <Joker_-_> maybe the video doesnt have such a big boost.
[21:15] <Seeker`> maybe
[21:15] <Joker_-_> I had a real cable booster in my previous appartment where it worked tho...
[21:15] <Joker_-_> so it might just be it.
[21:15] <Seeker`> i'd say give it a go
[21:15] <Joker_-_> I'll see if I can find a new one. Hope it's not too expensive
[21:15] <Seeker`> you can always return it if it doesn't help :P
[21:15] <Joker_-_> good point
[21:20] <Joker_-_> 15$ they got some in stock
[21:20] <Joker_-_> imma try that
[21:20] <Joker_-_> I'll keep you posted
[21:21] <Seeker`> :)
[21:21] <Seeker`> good luck
[22:04] <Seeker`> this is *really* bugging me now
[22:04] <Seeker`> stuttering video / audio
[22:04] <Seeker`> for no appearent reason
[22:30] <Seeker`> anyone?
[22:40] <SHADOW_V1> Seeker`, whats the problem
[22:40] <Seeker`> sound randomly cuts out for half a second or so
[22:40] <Seeker`> usually as a Tv program is changing scene
[22:40] <SHADOW_V1> from where recordings
[22:40] <SHADOW_V1> live tv
[22:40] <SHADOW_V1> wha
[22:41] <Seeker`> both
[22:42] <SHADOW_V1> ok when did it start happeneing
[22:42] <Seeker`> SHADOW_V1: last few days
[22:43] <SHADOW_V1> what are you recording over
[22:44] <Seeker`> recording freeview using a hauppage nova-t 500
[22:44] <SHADOW_V1> could be wheather or the satellite needs to be moved
[22:45] <SHADOW_V1> not too shure on sattellite stuff
[22:45] <Seeker`> the signal is fine
[22:45] <Seeker`> its not sattelite
[22:45] <Seeker`> its DVB-T
[22:45] <SHADOW_V1> oh ok
[22:45] <SHADOW_V1> you dont get any video problems just sound problems
[22:45] <Seeker`> its more sound problems than video
[22:45] <SHADOW_V1> but you still get video problems
[22:46] <Seeker`> occasionally the screen goes black for 1/2 second, but rarely
[22:46] <SHADOW_V1> because i expereince problems close to that here with sound popping and hissing and you see artifacts on the screen
[22:46] <SHADOW_V1> but thats due to poor signal quality
[22:47] <Seeker`> no, its as if the sound just stops, my AV receiver shows that it isn't receiving any audio, then it displays "Linear PCM", like the audio stream is closing then opening again
[22:47] <SHADOW_V1> could it be a stream problem
[22:48] <Seeker`> dont think so, video continues as normal
[22:48] <Seeker`> hmm, i'm tail -f'ing the mythfrontend log
[22:48] <Seeker`> it just did it again
[22:49] <Seeker`> 2009-07-08 22:48:15.321 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 3.0 GB w/freq: 15 min
[22:50] <Seeker`> I wouldn't have thought that it would have problems with doing stuff at once
[22:50] <Seeker`> its running on a Core 2 Q6700
[22:51] <Seeker`> but the sound disappearing does'nt always coincide with stuff appearing in the logs
[22:51] <Seeker`> ah! no! I've been tailing the wrong thing
[22:51] <Seeker`> I've been tailing the backend
[22:52] <Seeker`> 2009-07-08 22:50:20.270 WriteAudio: buffer underrun
[22:52] <Seeker`> get that in the front end
[22:54] <Seeker`> SHADOW_V1: still there?
[23:27] <Evil_Ether> I have a Hauppauge Nova-S Plus on an upgraded 9.04 and it stopped working in the middle of the day with out a reboot. Myth backend says 'could not get card info #0 subtype: unknown'.
[23:28] <Evil_Ether> dmesg http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m69347db3
[23:32] <Joker_-_> For the records, I enabled some opengl thing that was said to reduce flickering, disabled DVI (or something liek that - for captions) and it worked
[23:32] <Joker_-_> it's not flickering anymore
[23:32] <Joker_-_> thx


[07:43] <mwhudson> i wonder why the livecd-rootfs/noble/amd64 autopkgtests have been running for 2 hours longer than usual
[12:50] <kajiya> I've got an (already sponsored :D) SRU here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gce-compute-image-packages/+bug/2045708 - Łukasz asked for me to update the description to add any regression potentials. I've done that now so may I get an upload to mantic-proposed please? It's already in jammy and focal -proposed :) Cheers
[12:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2045708 in gce-compute-image-packages (Ubuntu Mantic) "[SRU] Improve debian/99-gce.rules to set schedulers based on disk" [Undecided, New]
[15:38] <tsimonq2> kajiya: This seems quite reasonable, I'll sponsor it for you. :)
[15:41] <tsimonq2> kajiya: Quick note for you, the debhelper in Focal is version 12, looks like the package is at version 9. It would be beneficial to look at upgrading, at some point soon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debhelper
[15:42] <tsimonq2> https://manpages.debian.org/testing/debhelper/debhelper-compat-upgrade-checklist.7.en.html
[15:48] <sudip> tsimonq2: I think you were offline during the weekend, not sure you saw my msg
[15:48] <sudip> Feb 11 22:10:57 <sudip> tsimonq2: you might want to have a look at LP: #2052880
[15:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2052880 in lxqt-archiver (Ubuntu) "Can't create .zip archive. 'Failed to execute command.' and 'Archive not found' errors" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2052880
[15:48] <tsimonq2> sudip: Thanks! I appreciate the second ping :)
[15:49] <sudip> ohh.. sorry.. I didn't realise you got the first ping.. it was weekend. :)
[15:51] <tsimonq2> It's been a turbulent weekend, it's on me for missing it, not on you for pinging. ;)
[16:38] <slyon> tsimonq2: I left a thing for you: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/pull/2284 I would appreciate any feedback if you find some time.
[16:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Pull 2284 in calamares/calamares "[RFC] networkcfg: Configure NetworkManager to be the default Netplan renderer" [Open]
[16:42] <sdeziel> rbasak: re the geoipupdate package being in multiverse rather than universe, here's another data point, the geoip-db itself is in universe (https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/geoip-database), albeit an old copy of it though
[16:55] <tsimonq2> slyon: Thank you so much for this!!! I really appreciate it! :)
[16:55] <tsimonq2> slyon: I'll put my thoughts on there after lunch. Tentative ACK, seems reasonable to me. :)
[16:59] <slyon> cool, thanks a lot!
[17:20] <rbasak> sdeziel: right, because that's not in contrib in Debian presumably.
[17:20] <rbasak> sdeziel: I'm not sure I understand the point you're making.
[17:21] <rbasak> Are you asking Ubuntu to override the mapping in particular cases? Or just asking why things are the way they are? Or something else?
[17:29] <sdeziel> rbasak: I'd appreciate if the package could be moved to universe
[17:33] <sdeziel> sorry for not being clear from the get go
[19:48] <rbasak> sdeziel: no worries. I'm not sure but I think it's possible to override, subject to whatever archive policy applies of course. Archive admins are the decision makeers on this. You can file a bug against the package requesting it and subscribe ~ubuntu-archive to put it in their queue. They process the queue once or twice a cycle.
[19:49] <sdeziel> rbasak: very nice, thanks a lot for walking through this
[19:49] <tsimonq2> slyon: Your commit just got merged into Calamares. :D
[19:50] <tsimonq2> slyon: Is there a bug to track doing this in network-manager already, or should I create one?
[19:53] <slyon> tsimonq2: nice! How's the testing story for calamares? (I didn't put any tests in my RFC)
[19:54] <slyon> There is bug #2020110 which does what we need, but I think it might make more sense to do the same thing as part of the network-manager package..
[19:54] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2020110 in ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Migrate netplan settings to this package" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2020110
[19:55] <tsimonq2> slyon: The story itself is quite comprehensive, thanks to guiverc and leok :) https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/testing-checklist-understanding-the-testcases/2743 https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/testing-checklist/4695
[19:56] <tsimonq2> slyon: In a more specific sense, this will be tested thoroughly once it hits the archive on the 18th.
[19:56] <slyon> So we could re-use that same bug and add a network-manager task, I guess? Feel free to do that. We'd need to check back with the relevant people about moving that file, but it would be good to have some bug report to track it.
[19:56] <tsimonq2> Yeah, that works for me. I'll subscribe to it.
[19:56] <slyon> tsimonq2: ok cool, thanks a lot. I'll check the details tomorrow as I'll be AFK now. I'm already on family time :)
[19:57] <tsimonq2> slyon: Have fun :) I think we're all good here!
[20:00] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3, sgmoore: Please be aware of the above Calamares pull request that was merged.
[20:50] <UnivrslSuprBox> I've filed lp:2053071 for faketime failing to fake timestamps to date(1) on i386. Looks like the last release this worked in was kinetic. It's still on the i386 allowlist though.
[20:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2053071 in faketime (Ubuntu) "faketime i386 and armhf fail to fake timestamps through date(1) in lunar and above" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2053071
[20:53] <UnivrslSuprBox> faketime is depended upon by epoptes, recommended by reprotest, and suggested by devscripts. It might need a new stack of syscall interceptors implemented for 64-bit timestamps on 32-bit hosts (or it might only be a few, I don't know)
[20:54] <tsimonq2> UnivrslSuprBox: Looks like a question for ubuntu-archive / #ubuntu-release, in any case here is more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/i386 (and I'd subscribe ubuntu-archive to the bug.)
[20:54] <mirespace> cpaelzer: about the  the wrapper for libcrpytx, I will drop the ed from dkim-perl and I'll upload it asap (I started for the wrapper itself, but yes... better to drop it first)
[21:00] <kajiya> tsimonq2 Hey there again! :D Sorry for the delay, I had to afk for a bit... thanks for your comment (and I'll definitely follow up with `debhelper` versions seperately) but I've already got sponsorship (from U_tkarsh), I just need someone to bump it out the mantic unapproved queue and get it into `mantic-proposed` :)
[21:01] <tsimonq2> kajiya: I do recall checking whether it was there hmmm :)
[21:01] <tsimonq2> kajiya: In any case, I'm glad it's being taken care of :D
[21:02] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= I don't see another upload ;) either way, no worries
[21:05] <kajiya> tsimonq2 Thanks for the help as always :D
[21:05] <tsimonq2> You're welcome. :)


[08:06] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230513)
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all


[01:56] <nathwill> gah
[01:58] <nathwill> where the hell does the firewall fall in the in networking stack
[01:58] <nathwill> it's got to be above transport layer, no?
[19:36] <bkerensa> Seeya all.... I'm headed to California :) well tomorrow morning but no more IRC :)
[19:38] <MarkDude> You are going to be north of me?


[00:04] <knome>  off to bed, see you later
[00:04] <knome> have a nice evening bluesabre
[00:27] <bluesabre> seeya knome
[00:40] <Dragon64> Good evening
[01:12] <jjfrv8> ochosi, Preferences is ready for a review as well.
[01:31] <bluesabre> ochosi: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/menulibre/2.1/revision/248
[01:31] <bluesabre> :D
[05:21] <ali1234> why do the tabs in mousepad look weird now?
[07:40] <ochosi> bluesabre: phew nice :) thanks!
[08:14] <Noskcaj> puzzles launcher 0.0.2 is now in the PPA, maintscripts made
[08:59] <flocculant> busy old bot that one
[09:04] <knome> Dragon64, hello
[11:23] <Dragon64> hello
[14:23] <drc> Any noted problems DL'ing the daily images?
[14:23] <flocculant> not sure about a straight downloads - but zsyncing works it seems
[14:25] <flocculant> also appears to download ok from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20150731/
[14:25] <drc> Straight DL'ing appears to work until the very end when FF shows a fail and the file disappears.  Tried Xubuntu and Kubuntu daily's no go...DL'ing X15.04 from cdimage works just fine.
[14:26] <flocculant> just rechecking the zsync
[14:28] <flocculant> drc: where did you get it from? dated or daily?
[14:29] <flocculant> zsync works for current (not daily)
[14:29] <flocculant> just trying the straight download here
[14:29] <flocculant> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[14:29] <drc> I tried both current and dated
[14:30] <flocculant> ok - well I'll know in ~25 minutes what happens for me
[14:30] <drc> Like I said, wait until the very end...it's tricksy :)
[14:30] <flocculant> :)
[15:00] <flocculant> drc: yup - failed
[15:00] <drc> Yay, it's not just me...er...I mean, that's too bad :)
[15:00] <flocculant> ha ha
[15:03] <drc> Just for grins and giggles, I'm DL'ing yesterday's daily.
[15:03] <flocculant> going to see if I get some sort of error message with wget
[15:04] <drc> 'bout 10 min from now....
[15:04] <flocculant> drc: if you do and you get that ok - would be useful to double check zsyncing to today's
[15:04] <drc> never done that...might need instructions.
[15:05] <flocculant> ok :)
[15:05] <flocculant> it's certainly useful if you get these images frequently
[15:06] <drc> I don't, that's why I've never done it.
[15:08] <flocculant> aah right :)
[15:12] <drc> huh...yesterday's daily DL'ed fine
[15:17] <drc> back in a bit
[15:23] <drc> Looks like everything is working now...today's dated daily does not fail at the end (as of bout 2 minutes ago)
[15:24] <flocculant> odd - but good :)
[15:25] <drc> must be k...er...gnomes.
[15:25] <flocculant> lol
[19:20] <ochosi> evening all
[19:20] <flocculant> evening ochosi
[19:22] <ochosi> hey flocculant, how's it going?
[19:22] <flocculant> ok - you?
[19:23] <flocculant> reading -quality where there's a discussion about the ubiquity autopilot tests going on
[19:28] <ochosi> good good, a bit tired though
[19:28] <flocculant> :)
[19:29] <flocculant> it'll get worse ...
[19:34] <ochosi> heh
[19:34] <ochosi> yeah, i guess
[20:34] <knome> flocculant, since we've been discussing QA and the xubuntu tracker, is there something from the ISO/packages tracker you'd like to see in the xubuntu tracker?
[20:35] <knome> (keeping in mind the limitations the tracker API has)
[20:39] <flocculant> knome: I don't think so
[20:39] <flocculant> about the only things that *might* be useful would be number of tests done and this new pass/fail for ubiquity possibility
[20:40] <flocculant> but iso.qa is more likely to have up to date info on it anyway
[20:41] <flocculant> perhaps if during the next cycle we go back to packages.qa - that might be useful information for others
[20:41] <flocculant> but I would be wary of adding stuff to tracker because it can be done
[20:42] <ochosi> could be useful though for non-qa folks to get a quick glance of how things are
[20:42] <ochosi> (i mean if there is useful stuff in the api)
[20:42] <knome> i'll look around quickly
[20:42] <knome> which probably means i'll spend the night hacking on xml-rpc
[20:42] <knome> but... that's ok
[20:43] <flocculant> ochosi: true
[20:47] <flocculant> knome: if you are going to look then I'd guess a total for daily 32/64 would be sufficient for non-qa people
[20:47] <knome> what about for qa people? :P
[20:47] <flocculant> but it really depends on how often it updates
[20:47] <flocculant> knome: I'd expect qa people to want more detail and go to the qa tracker :p
[20:47] <knome> for the ultimately up-to-date information, you should always refer to the source, eg. the qa tracker
[20:48] <flocculant> yep
[20:55] <flocculant> maybe bugs from the summary - trouble there is the current page goes back further than wily
[20:55] <ochosi> still, a single go-to place might make things easier for newcomers
[20:57] <flocculant> tbh - a list of bugs from launchpad would be more useful - to me at least :p
[20:57] <Unit193> But keep in mind simple != information overload.
[20:57] <flocculant> ochosi: yea - I agree with that view - just not so useful to me
[20:57] <knome> flocculant, list of what launchpad bugs?
[20:58] <flocculant> Unit193: yep "I would be wary of adding stuff to tracker because it can be done"
[20:58] <flocculant> knome: 'current dev version' ones
[20:58] <knome> flocculant, i guess there is no common nominator you can use to search the bugs from LP?
[20:59] <flocculant> not that I've managed to find no
[20:59] <ochosi> Unit193: btw while you're around, how's the x-core workitem going? anything you need help with there or are things moving ahead?
[20:59] <flocculant> ochosi: to be honest for non-qa people wouldn't a mail to the list once a week with total tests be enough
[21:00] <flocculant> which has the added bonus of highlighting that to everyone subscribed to that list
[21:00] <Unit193> ochosi: Nope.
[21:01] <knome> flocculant, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.struc
[21:01] <knome> oops...
[21:01] <flocculant> :D
[21:02] <knome> http://tinyurl.com/q3wvvgm
[21:02] <knome> ^ all wily bugs reported from the iso tracker
[21:02] <knome> understanding which of those affect us... noep
[21:02] <knome> we need the qa trackers add more tags automatically
[21:03] <ochosi> Unit193: ehm, nope to what? progress or need for help?
[21:04] <Unit193> Now you've reversed the order of questions!  Progress.
[21:05] <ochosi> yeah, but what about the other question?
[21:09] <knome> ugh, i don't understand the php xml-rpc interface
[21:10] <knome> that's a good start.
[21:11] <Unit193> ochosi: I could maybe cludge something together for lp:ubuntu-cdimage, the Debian installer I haven't the slightest idea, and livecd-rootfs looks based on live-build, which I have messed with.  So I'd say that's a safe presumption that someone that actually knows something on these, or at least python.
[21:12] <knome> Unit193, would you also be willing to update debian-cd for us with the new pcx from krytarik?
[21:17] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/5KhCuR1s4j0RGIc5sav0 should be it for livecd-rootfs, in theory.
[21:23] <Unit193> ochosi: I believe micahg volunteered to help with ubuntu-cdimage which would be great.
[21:31] <Unit193> knome: And, that'd be in lp:~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu
[21:31] <knome> Unit193, that works for me.
[21:33] <ochosi> Unit193: maybe we could split this up into >1 workitem then to account for micahg's part
[21:34] <ochosi> or to track the progress in more detail maybe
[21:37] <flocculant> night all
[21:37] <knome> nighty flocculant
[21:37] <ochosi> night flocculant
[21:38] <flocculant> about tomorrow off and on


[00:01] <allee> I can cd to build-area fix there the patch and copy back to the debian dir in merge-mode .  But would prefer that bd-do does this on exit for me.
[00:04] <shadeslayer> allee: whats bzr bd-do
[00:04] <allee> short vor bzr builddep-do
[00:04] <shadeslayer> ah
[00:05] <shadeslayer> you do realize we don't use bzr anymore right
[00:05] <shadeslayer> git ftw
[00:05] <allee> one, digikam pkg moved to git at anon
[00:05] <allee> ?
[00:06] <shadeslayer> anon?
[00:06] <allee> shadeslayer: you know the git URL to clone the digikam pkgs repo?
[00:07] <allee> oh, oh, AFAIR digikam debian pkging and ubuntus pkging diverted quite a bit
[00:08] <shadeslayer> probably somewhere on http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/
[00:08] <shadeslayer> or well
[00:08] <shadeslayer> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-kde/kde-extras/digikam/trunk/
[00:08] <shadeslayer> maybe time for a merge? :)
[00:09] <shadeslayer> anyway
[00:09] <shadeslayer> sleepy time for me
[00:09] <shadeslayer> night
[00:18] <allee> shadeslayer: thx.   Same here.  Sleep well.
[00:19] <allee> Hmm, looks like digikam is still manged in svn.  I'll postpone merge to the PIM / Kubuntu sprint
[00:25] <valorie> !
[00:25] <valorie> on teh KDE end?
[00:26] <valorie> I thought we got the last of the kde projects out of SVN
[00:26] <valorie> aside from artwork and translations
[00:26] <valorie> and etc.
[00:27] <allee> valorie: no, svn for pkging done in debian
[00:28] <valorie> https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/graphics/digikam/digikam-software-compilation/repository
[00:28] <valorie> ah
[00:28] <valorie> got it
[00:28] <valorie> well, when we package it, we'll put it in git
[00:28] <valorie> and then debian will be able to use that
[00:28] <valorie> win-win
[00:32] <allee> valorie: yes.  But AFAIU this means migrating debian digikan svn into git first, then merging  our (quite different) pkging.    At least svn->git I'm not qualified at all.
[00:33] <valorie> sure, I guess we'll have a bit of this work ahead of us in the next months
[00:33] <valorie> it will end up helping everyone though
[00:34] <allee> valorie: yes!
[00:34] <valorie> all help is welcome, and you can *become* qualified
[00:35] <valorie> probably not at this hour of the day, though
[03:28] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Riddell fixed ktorrent already.
[08:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <Riddell> hola
[08:23] <lordievader> Hey Riddell, how are you doing?
[08:36] <Riddell> lordievader: about to give a talk on kubuntu to blue systems, wish me luck :)
[08:36] <lordievader> Whoo, good luck :D You'll do fine!
[08:39] <lordievader> mokush in #kubuntu has troubles installing Kate with the Kubuntu Next ppa installed. The dependencies are at a newer version due to the ppa while the kate package still comes from the regular archive and depends on the package versions from the archive. Thus resulting in unmet dependencies. How can we help this user?
[09:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: so replacement not required then?
[09:33] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: apport port was not originally on the porting card so there is no port :P
[09:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: not required but it's unmaintained and cluttered so there may still be good reasons
[09:45]  * valorie hands JackWolfSkin_ the port
[09:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: why would you want to do that now?
[09:45] <shadeslayer> when we've been using it for so long
[09:45] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I don't especially, it's ScottK who started the thread
[09:46] <shadeslayer> the premise of that thread is that ktorrent doesn't build/work
[09:46] <shadeslayer> so kind of useless now?
[09:46] <lordievader> Riddell: How did your talk go?
[09:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: unless people want to say there's other reasons
[09:47] <Riddell> lordievader: dunno ask shadeslayer
[09:47] <valorie> we should always give our users the best possible experience
[09:47] <shadeslayer> it was cool :)
[09:47] <lordievader> \o/
[09:47] <valorie> but I sure do hate to move from KDE to not-KDE applications
[12:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:29] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I think we may, at some point, want to move off of ktorrent if it doesn't get maintained, but the immediate problem I was worried about it no longer relevant, so not a problem.
[12:40] <soee> someon using Plasma5 on a laptop ?
[12:42] <lordievader> Sortof, yes.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> soee, I am
[12:51] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like something's still pulling libkactivities-bin onto the images.
[13:45] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah I saw, not worked out what yet
[13:47] <Riddell> but sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^  does indeed still fail locally
[13:49] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ack, though I think it's just that the ktorrent people need pokery
[13:50] <ScottK> shadeslayer: They can start by fixing ktorrent.org.
[13:50] <BluesKaj> someone is asking if neon/kf5 is down..is it?
[13:51] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yes all of neon is dead I belive
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ok thanks Riddell
[13:57] <soee> Riddell: so now if we want Plasma5 on vivid we should use kubuntu-ci ?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> soee, yup
[13:59] <Riddell> soee: exactemente
[13:59] <Riddell> nothing about kactivities-bin in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.vivid/desktop
[14:00] <soee> Riddell: exactAmente ? :)
[14:00] <Riddell> por supuesto, exactamente
[14:00] <soee> :D
[14:01] <soee> Riddell: how about Utopic -> Vivid upgrade
[14:01] <soee> if now im runnign plasma5 on utopic, what steps do i need to take to have it all working on vivid ?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> upgrade to vivid ?
[14:07] <soee> BluesKaj: ok but plasam5 is not by default in archive if im right than i wonder if it is going to be removed during upgrade ?
[14:07] <soee> and than do i have to add some extra ppa to get it back ? no?
[14:09] <Riddell> soee: yes you will
[14:09] <Riddell> or maybe it'll keep neon packages around but they won't get updated
[14:10] <Riddell> ScottK: well dunno, I can only see it in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.vivid/all where it's brought in as a recommends from libkactivities6 but that's no longer true
[14:11] <Riddell> I've just deleted the libkactivities-bin binary
[14:11] <soee> Riddell: so the steops are: 1. upgrade to vivid, add ppa (what ppa), full-upgrade ?
[14:11] <Riddell> so I blame germinate
[14:12] <ScottK> Did the fixed libkactivities6 migrate to the release pocket?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> soee, I added the 15.04 ppa, then just updated, upgraded and dist upgrades , so an upgrade to 15.04 first then add the ppa and proceed
[14:15] <soee> BluesKaj: what 15.04 ppa ?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> the kubuntu-ci on launchpad
[14:17] <soee> BluesKaj: ok, so wthat is the command to upgrade to dev version / i always forget it /
[14:17] <BluesKaj> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+index?field.series_filter=
[14:18] <BluesKaj> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:19] <soee> hmm it has kubuntu-next as a dependency ?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> then get rid of the kubuntu-next ppa
[14:22] <soee> hmm yesh, but i think ill wait till xorg-edgers add builds for vivid
[14:23] <soee> the latest nvidia drivers i just must have
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ok, that's your call...personally I still like 14.10 with plasma 4 better than 5, so I'm sticking with it on my desktop pc
[14:31] <soee> oh i dont think i coud move back to Plasma4 :)
[14:32] <lordievader> soee: Also there are different kubu-ci ppa's, landing, daily and weekly.
[14:34] <soee> lordievader: teh kubuntu-ci ppa is also available for uptopic ?
[14:35] <soee> than it replaces kubuntu-next or not ?
[14:36] <lordievader> Unstable weekly seems to be utopic: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-weekly
[14:37] <lordievader> Hmm, landing is the only one with Vivid.
[14:37] <soee> lordievader: and what about the dependency to kubutnu-next ?
[14:37] <soee> oh wait teh weekly does not have it
[14:38] <soee> so removing kubuntu-next and adding ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable-weekly should give me latest builds on Utopic right ?
[14:38] <soee> well latest... weekly :)
[14:38] <lordievader> What does have a dependency on Kubuntu Next?
[14:39] <lordievader> soee: ^
[14:39] <soee> lordievader: the link from BluesKaj https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+index?field.series_filter=
[14:40] <soee> check Technical details about this PPA
[14:41] <lordievader> Riddell: ^ I think that should be removed. It works fine here on Vivid without Kubu Next. (Also seeing as Kubu Next is EOL)
[14:42] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[14:44] <lordievader> Riddell, a much wanted man :P
[14:45] <bukai> lordievader: Indeed :)
[14:47] <bukai> soee: ping
[14:48] <soee> bukai: hiho
[14:50] <bukai> soee: Can I send you a pm?
[14:50] <soee> sure
[15:02] <soee_> Riddell: do you mind take a look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9097681/ is it safe to do such upgrade (removed plasma-next ppa and added unstable-weekly)
[15:11] <Riddell> sigh, sorry internet here is broken
[15:11] <Riddell> too many people with too many laptops/phones etc
[15:11] <Riddell> ScottK: hmm no it didn't migrate
[15:12] <ScottK> That would explain it.
[15:12] <Riddell> it's moaning about no libkactivities-bin
[15:12] <ScottK> Ask infinity what to do.
[15:12] <ScottK> In theory we shoudn't have to force it.
[15:13] <Riddell> but now I've deleted libkactivities-bin
[15:13] <Riddell> maybe we need to wait another hour for that to be realised
[15:13] <Riddell> or maybe I need to detel it from proposed as well?
[15:14] <Riddell> hi bukai
[15:14] <Riddell> soee: good question on how to install kubuntu-ci, apachelogger has failed to write any docs for it
[15:15] <yofel> what's the apps 14.12 work ppa btw.? the notes don't say that
[15:16] <Riddell> yofel: I just put kolf in vivid
[15:17] <yofel> well, non-motu's can't do that
[15:17] <Riddell> I guess for new packages at least we'll want to use a ppa so pick either ninjas or staging
[15:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ping
[15:17] <yofel> k
[15:17] <bukai> Riddell: Hi, I made a change in the download page will i keep for the other 2?
[15:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: pong
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: what was that asus channel we hanged out in?
[15:18] <Quintasan> it was #archos
[15:18] <Quintasan> or #asustransformer if you are sure it was asus related
[15:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: nah, archos was the one
[15:19] <shadeslayer> thx
[15:19] <Riddell> bukai: I don't know what the change is so I don't know if it needs to be kept
[15:22] <bukai> Riddell: :) I made a slider for download http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/sok/download.html as compared to stacking them up
[15:26] <bukai> Riddell: btw only the news page has to be created  and a proper footer is needed to be done. I started with the news page but as I have my semester exams going on and final year thesis submission so I can complete it earliest by the first week of Dec. Will that be ok?
[15:31] <Riddell> bukai: I don't see anything sliding in http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/sok/download.html
[15:31] <Riddell> if I click the left/right arrows it #todo
[15:32] <bukai> the arrows on the side of the download? Is it not there?
[15:32] <bukai> yes
[15:32] <bukai> there the other 2 download details will be put
[15:33] <bukai> If we decide to keep this design
[15:33] <bukai> Riddell: ^^
[15:33] <Riddell> well you should get all presented at first so you can select which one
[15:33] <shadeslayer> it looks fancy but I don't think I agree
[15:33] <Riddell> rather than have to slide through several to see what's available
[15:33] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:33] <shadeslayer> *yawn*
[15:33]  * shadeslayer needs coffee
[15:35] <bukai> Riddell: shadeslayer So I will just put it one below the other then ?
[15:36] <Riddell> bukai: or an expandable boxes like currently http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[15:37] <Riddell> that way it's easy to browse what's available then delve into the one you like
[15:37] <Riddell> but also that's the page that doesn't work without javascript which upset one person once
[15:38] <bukai> Yes, and I guess it wont go well with our layout
[15:40] <bukai> Riddell: The heading will be clear enough for the selection so accordion won't be necessary I guess
[15:44] <Riddell> ok
[15:56] <soee> Riddell: so we can use kubuntu-ci with Utopic right ?
[15:56] <Riddell> soee: yes it's only for utopic
[15:56] <bukai> Riddell: Any ideas about the footer? the usual stuff that is there now won't be there right?
[15:56] <soee> it is not ? i see vivid listed also for latest
[15:57] <Riddell> bukai: I think the footer should go, anything there is either useless or should go in the header
[15:58] <soee> Riddell: for example here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable you can choose vivid or utopic
[15:58] <sgclark> I am using ci in vivid and I did when I was in utopic
[15:58] <bukai> Riddell: Ok so no footer? Not even the copyright thing?
[15:59] <Riddell> bukai: right
[15:59] <soee> sgclark: so im a bit confused now :) Riddell said its for Utopic but it seems its for Vivid also, also https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable has dependency set to kubuntu next
[16:00] <lordievader> Only the landing ppa is for Vivid according to Launchpad.
[16:00] <lordievader> Daily and weekly are only available for Utopic.
[16:01] <Riddell> soee: looks like it's utopic and vivid
[16:01] <Riddell> soee: and I uges sfor utopic you need to use kubuntu next
[16:01] <soee> ok but the general purpose of kubuntu-ci is to provide latest builds of Plasma5, KF5 etc ?
[16:02] <Riddell> soee: builds of git master
[16:02] <Riddell> (stable still to be done)
[16:02] <Riddell> soee: so it replaces neon5
[16:02] <Riddell> but it uses the same packaging as our packages
[16:03] <Riddell> so it'll help us packagers
[16:04] <lordievader> You guys are doing a great job though, it may be called unstable but here it has been quite stable :D
[16:07] <soee> this builds contain also new applications ?
[16:09] <sgclark> soee: not yet, I and hopefully others are working on them now
[16:10] <soee> ok :) sgclark you ar eon vivid with kubuntu-ci ?
[16:10] <sgclark> yes
[16:11] <soee> any crashes or some serious problems when using it ?
[16:11] <sgclark> the only real annoyance is I can't seem to use kate and dolphin at the same time, not sure what is going on there
[16:14] <lordievader> sgclark: Just tested that here, works fine...
[16:15] <sgclark> okie dokie
[16:15] <sgclark> my machine has gremlins then
[16:15] <lordievader> Haven't you been nice to your gremlins? O.O
[16:16] <soee> ok so i think il try the jump :)
[16:17] <soee> so: 1. do-release-upgrade -d 2. add kubutnu-ci ppa upgrade etc. 3. Be happy using Plasma5 on Vivid ?
[16:17] <lordievader> soee: Good luck, and have fun ;)
[16:20] <bukai> Riddell: regarding the SoK do I have to fill in some status report?
[16:21] <Riddell> bukai: not that I know of no
[16:21] <Riddell> bukai: not better than that would be to get a blog and write blog updates
[16:21] <sgclark> yes blog once a month is mandatory is what I was told
[16:21] <Riddell> s/not/but/
[16:22] <bukai> Ok, shall do it.
[16:23] <Riddell> bukai: then submit a bug on bugs.kde.org with rss url and hackergotchi image so I can add it to planet kde
[16:24] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9099200/
[16:24] <Riddell> sgclark: this is packaging 14.12 amor?
[16:24] <sgclark> yes
[16:25] <Riddell> sgclark: where does the package install it to?
[16:25] <sgclark> usr/games/amor
[16:26] <Riddell> sgclark: so it's just the bug of $PATH not being set right
[16:26] <sgclark> did we set that path somewhere in kde4?
[16:26] <sgclark> yes
[16:26] <sgclark> well the first error anyway
[16:26] <Riddell> sgclark: it's a bug in utopic both kde4 and plasma5
[16:27] <soee> oh do-release-upgrade -d fails :)
[16:27] <Riddell> sgclark: I guess Kicker has same issue as terminal, it's not in the path
[16:31] <soee> sgclark: did you have the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9099284/ ?
[16:31] <sgclark> soee: oh yeah, I disabled those extra in sources.list
[16:33] <bukai> Riddell: What bug will i submit?
[16:41] <Riddell> bukai: "please subscribe me to planet"
[16:43] <bukai> Riddell: what is the product I need to select for this?
[16:45] <Riddell> bukai: planety kde
[16:49] <sgclark> Riddell: so I guess I need to know if I should commit this or do I need to somehow set PATH?
[16:52] <Riddell> add export PATH=/usr/games:$PATH  to the top of /usr/bin/startkde
[17:07] <yofel> shouldn't that be part of the default PATH?
[17:07] <yofel> /etc/login.defs:ENV_PATH        PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[17:07] <yofel> or did that change recently..
[17:07] <bukai> Riddell: I need to provide the rss url for ?
[17:07] <yofel> /etc/environment:PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[17:09] <bukai> Riddell: i mean rss url of what?
[17:09] <yofel> your blog
[17:10] <yofel> or well, the feed for the posts on your blog that are meant for planet kde (category, tag, whatever...)
[17:10] <sgclark> yofel: hmm interesting, yes usr games is in there. but I get these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/9099200/
[17:11] <yofel> yeah, curious
[17:11] <yofel> what's PATH set to if you open a new shell and look at env?
[17:11] <sgclark> oh /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
[17:12] <yofel> I wonder if sddm messes with the environment
[17:12] <soee> shoul di care about this warnings during upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/9099979/ ?
[17:12] <yofel> soee: nope
[17:12] <sgclark> soee: hmm dunno, looks scary though
[17:13] <sgclark> guess not lol
[17:13] <soee> okey :)
[17:13] <yofel> well, there's a chance that something in gtk might not quite look right. Usually it shouldn't matter
[17:14] <soee> there were also some other warnigns: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9100033/
[17:15] <yofel> I'm guessing that's ok... assuming the package in the archive is the correct one
[17:17] <soee> also: dpkg: warning: libkf5sysguard5-data: conffile '/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf' is not a plain file or symlink (= '/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf')
[17:18] <yofel> that would be bad. What is it actually?
[17:20] <Riddell> bukai: yes of your blog that you want subscribed
[17:21] <soee> yofel: not sure, the same warnig was posted also when i did previous upgrades i think
[17:21] <Riddell> sgclark, yofel: yes it's a longstanding bug for utopic, fixes welcome
[17:22] <Riddell> it may well be an issue with sddm I don't know
[17:22] <Riddell> but I think it's also in plasma 4 image
[17:22] <yofel> soee: what does "file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf" say?
[17:22] <soee> yofel: wait a few moments till my upgrade finish
[17:39] <soee> yofel: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf: directory
[17:39] <yofel> sounds familiar..
[17:39] <yofel> soee: empty or not?
[17:40] <soee> yofel: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 314 Oct  2 19:04 org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf
[17:40] <yofel> ...
[17:40] <yofel> great :/
[17:40] <soee> so thi is inside
[17:41] <soee> so it should not be a dirtectory but fiel or simlink that is placed inside ?
[17:42] <yofel> should be the file itself really
[17:42] <yofel> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf: exported SGML document, ASCII text
[17:42] <soee> so i wonder how this happend and if i should try to manually fix it ?
[17:44] <soee> brb reboot, oh btw during upgrade also:http://paste.ubuntu.com/9100393/
[17:46] <Riddell> ScottK: removed libkactivities-bin 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu3 from vivid-proposed, that should help it transition
[17:48] <soee> back
[17:48] <soee> lordievader: ping
[17:49] <lordievader> soee: Pong
[17:50] <soee> lordievader: after upgrade to vivid from Utopic + Plasma5 i have Plasam5 installed without using kubuntu-ci
[17:50] <lordievader> soee: Hmm, where does plasma-desktop come from?
[17:52] <soee> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/universe amd64 Packages
[17:52] <lordievader> soee: What version?
[17:53] <Riddell> soee: for kubuntu-ci you will need the next PPA to get the meta package
[17:53] <Riddell> then you can install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[17:53] <soee> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9100757/
[17:54] <soee> Riddell: but do i have to ?
[17:54] <lordievader> Heh, is 5.1 in the archives :)
[17:55] <soee> yeah so kubuntu-ci is not required right ?
[17:55] <sgclark> I don't recall installing kubuntu-plasma5-desktop in my vivid upgrade
[17:55] <sgclark> soee: no it is not required, never was, just for those that like to live on the edge
[17:56] <lordievader> sgclark: Does apt-get autoremove want to remove the entire plasma5 with you too?
[17:56] <sgclark> eh wut?
[17:57] <soee> yofel: so any idea what to do ith this one file problem ?
[17:57] <Riddell> soee: no you can install stuff individually if you want but you might miss something
[17:57] <yofel> soee: replace the directory with the file inside it
[17:57] <lordievader> sgclark: I'm not sure why but apt finds that all plasma5 packages are not needed and can be removed -.-
[17:57]  * sgclark is very confused
[17:57] <soee> yofel: please confirm also that this file is empty
[17:58] <sgclark> lordievader: nope, does not want to for me
[17:58] <soee> lordievader: nope, i can confirm what sgclark said
[17:58] <lordievader> Hmm...
[17:58] <yofel> soee: it isn't... is there a .dpkg-new file?
[17:58]  * lordievader wonders what meta package he is missing..
[17:59] <soee> yofel: ah ok now its not empty
[18:01] <soee> yofel: ok i did manual move
[18:01] <yofel> ok, should be fine in the future then
[18:02] <soee> the sddm issue with nvidia-prime has not been fixed yet rigth ?
[18:03] <sgclark> dunno, I gave up on it and now manually install my drivers
[18:04] <soee> brb
[18:08] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: fix your silly nickname
[18:08] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: what do you think of this? https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu_CI
[18:11] <soee> sddm does not work when trying to use nvidia card, works with intel though
[18:11] <lordievader> Is he in hiding again?
[18:12] <soee> hiding ?
[18:12] <lordievader> soee: apachelogger ;)
[18:12] <soee> ah ok :)
[18:14] <soee> guys one more thing now when im on Vivid the About module shows Kubuntu, but in grup we have Ubuntu
[18:14] <soee> *grub
[18:16] <sgclark> soee: grub will never go back to kubuntu. upkeep was more than it was worth
[18:16] <sgclark> at least that is what the changelog said :)
[18:17] <soee> :(
[18:22] <Riddell> soee: please read over https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu_Continuous_Integration_.28CI.29
[18:22] <Riddell> does it make sense?
[18:22] <Riddell> that grub change caused all sorts of problems
[18:22] <Riddell> and kubuntu is part of ubuntu, I don't want to hide that
[18:25] <sgclark> yeah but those that multiboot, it would be nice to know which one kubuntu and which is ubuntu
[18:26] <sgclark> just sayin
[18:32] <Riddell> true
[18:32] <Riddell> but why multiboot between kubuntu and ubuntu?  it's the same thing
[18:33] <sgclark> Riddell: I don't know lol, back in my multiboot days I had 12 different distros for no particular reason :)
[18:34] <sgclark> I am down to one :)
[18:37] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: I'll kill the content on https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE
[18:38] <Riddell> sgclark: we win!
[18:38] <sgclark> :)
[18:39] <soee> Riddell: ok after quick read we need kubutnu-next ppa and install kubutnu-plasma5-desktop only on Utopic right? On vivid we just want to add kubuntu-ci/unstable and just upgrade ?
[18:40] <sgclark> hmm, ci is not required... is it?
[18:40] <sgclark> plasma5 is in archive, or at least it is supposed to be
[18:41] <Riddell> soee: yep (and mind vivid is unstable)
[18:41] <Riddell> sgclark: no it's not
[18:41] <sgclark> what? ci is required?
[18:41] <sgclark> that doesnt make sense
[18:42] <Riddell> sgclark: it's not required, it's useful if you want to develop against KDE Git and it's useful for us to keep an eye on the jenkins at http://kci.pangea.pub/ for packaging problems against kubuntu git
[18:42] <Riddell> problems against kde git rather
[18:42] <Riddell> sgclark: but those of us wanting to develop kubuntu vivid should use kubuntu vivid
[18:42] <sgclark> right I kinow that and use it, but you were just saying it is required in vivid. and it is not
[18:42] <sgclark> proposed perhaps
[18:43] <sgclark> anyway I have a functional system on my laptop that does not use ci
[18:43] <lordievader> Riddell: I just saw a paste where plasma-desktop v5.1 came from the archive.
[18:44] <sgclark> yeah I swear I was hitting refresh on a ton of plasma5 stuff in archive one night
[18:44] <lordievader> soee: ^
[18:44] <soee> yeah this is also strange if Riddell says its not in archive
[18:45] <soee> *Vivivd
[18:48] <yofel> er, plasma-desktop is in the archive
[18:48] <soee> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/
[18:48] <Riddell> it's in vivid
[18:48] <yofel> kubuntu-plasma5-desktop isn't
[18:49] <soee> ah so thats why all works fine after upgrade, i had kubuntu-plasma5-desktop installed before so all dependencies where to
[18:49] <lordievader> Yes, Vivid. Wasn't that what we were talking about?
[18:50] <sgclark> I was
[18:52] <sgclark> I am on vivid for both laptop and desktop. laptop normal plasma5 install and desktop is living on the edge with ci
[18:52] <sgclark> I may have enabled proposed on laptop tho
[18:52] <soee> in on Vivid + Plasma 5 on laptop :) works fine
[18:53] <soee> as this is my daily work machine at home, i wont risk now using ci
[18:53] <lordievader> My test laptop runs Vivid + systemd + Plasma5 :D
[18:53] <yofel> I want to have plasma5 fully in the archive first with apps before I got to vivid
[19:02] <soee> any news about new activities manager in plasma 5.2 ?
[19:13] <Riddell> ScottK: kactivities now in -release!
[19:15] <Riddell> lordievader: infact plasma 5.1 is in utopic Plasma 5
[19:16] <lordievader> Well there we go :D
[21:08] <soee> is it possible to somehow use with current plasma https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340900 ?
[23:12] <soee> ah cool :) i have upgrade kactivities from unstable ppa and now i can define shortcuts to selected activities :)
[23:13] <soee> time to remove virtual desktop and stick again to activities


[00:19] <kevindf> Does any of you have tried Zentyal before?
[00:40] <kevindf> Would you guys recommend using Webmin on a Ubuntu home server?
[00:40] <pmatulis> kevindf: nope, webmin is considered hostile to ubuntu.  do not use it
[00:40] <kevindf> ok, thank you :)
[00:41] <pmatulis> !webmin | kevindf
[00:41] <kevindf> thanks
[00:41] <pmatulis> np
[00:42] <qman> !webmin
[00:42] <qman> oh, whoops
[00:42] <qman> I'm blind
[00:50] <acmehandle> whats the difference between python3 and python3m?
[01:08] <lnxmen> Does anyone know how to debug memcached?
[01:08] <lnxmen> I have set it on VPS
[01:09] <lnxmen> Added appropiate options to productive server
[01:09] <lnxmen> PHP does not return any error in case of connection
[01:09] <lnxmen> but I get dozens of error when PHP tries to get phrases from cache
[01:10] <lifeless> acmehandle: 3m is the python3-minimal binary
[01:16] <lvmer> what's the difference between name & iname?  I see examples with both, like$  find /share/pictures/1-Camera/ -name 'Test.tif'
[01:21] <lnxmen> It's strange because I have two almost identical configs on two VPSes.
[01:21] <lnxmen> First works, but second not.
[02:36] <dustinspringman> anyone here familiar with disabling a service from the files on a non-booting OS?
[02:36] <dustinspringman> I've crashed an important box with apt-get upgrade... =/
[02:37] <dustinspringman> i've got access to teh files via mounting the disk with another vm, but.... I'm not certain how to kick out services that I don't want to start so I can troubleshoot which one is locking the vm on boot...
[02:49] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: look into preventing upstart jobs from starting
[02:49] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: I just ran across a thread about that!!
[02:50] <dustinspringman> my problem appears to be that when the server boots now, it's flooding itself with smtp attempts/failures... I think I can get back into the vm if I can just stop postfix at boot for now..
[02:50] <Patrickdk> just move the file out of /etc/init/
[02:50] <Patrickdk> then after boot, slowly move them back in
[02:51] <dustinspringman> Patrickdk: Was thinking about that, the upstart threads are saying to "echo manual >/etc/init/service~name.override
[02:51] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: so edit the postfix upstart job
[02:51] <dustinspringman> I can just rename it right?
[02:52] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: what release is this?
[02:52] <dustinspringman> 12.04.3
[02:52] <Patrickdk> rename won't work
[02:53] <dustinspringman> Patrickdk: rgr that
[02:53] <dustinspringman> so, do I move it out of init or init.d ?
[02:53] <Patrickdk> if it's upstart, init
[02:53] <Patrickdk> if it's non-upstart init.d
[02:53] <dustinspringman> it appears some of the services are upstart and some are not... is that accuratE?
[02:54] <Patrickdk> depends
[02:56] <dustinspringman> appears to be the case on this box..
[02:59] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: postfix is not an upstart job on precise
[02:59] <Patrickdk> it is for me :)
[02:59] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: rgr that
[03:00]  * Patrickdk doesn't use the ubuntu postfix init script though
[03:04] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9420952/
[03:10] <dustinspringman> w00p w00p, killing that service fixed it!
[03:10] <dustinspringman> thanks pmatulis and Patrickdk for the help! saved me a ton of time
[03:12] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: i'm glad it worked out for you.  w00p w00p!
[03:14] <dustinspringman> BTW this was an Amazon EC2 instance... Otherwise I'd have had a much easier console access through a physical terminal or esxi console... Just to get to the files to be able to nix that faulty startup item, I had to launch a new EC2 instance, detach/attach the EBS volume from broken instance to the temp instance, mount the disk in the temp instance....... edit the init.d stuff and then re-attach to the original instan
[03:15] <dustinspringman> time for a beer!
[03:35] <riz0n> Hello, I am getting a "permission denied" error in cron, for awstats, my logfiles are in /var/log/apache2/custom ... What do I need to set the permissions for there to not be a permission errors?
[03:40] <riz0n> cd ..
[03:40] <riz0n> oops ;)
[08:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:40] <yossarianuk> hi - we have a script on a server (java based) that sometimes dies - what would be the best way of ensuring the process gets automatically restarted?
[10:41] <yossarianuk> i.e watchdog ?
[10:41] <lordievader> Upstart has the ability of respawns.
[10:44] <yossarianuk> lordievader: thanks - I would have to upstartify my init script first though ?
[10:45] <lordievader> Suppose so, yes.
[10:49] <yossarianuk> ok thank you
[12:04] <pmatulis> morning
[12:54] <NigeyS> Does anyone know if its possible to set rsyslogd to output via a different eth interface? i want to bind it to eth1 not eth0
[12:58] <sarthor> Hi, I have extracted some .deb file, that became 3 files, control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz and debian-binary, How can I make this again file.deb, HELP
[14:23] <sarthor> Hi, again , I have 3 directories, in one folder, naming. DEBIAN  etc  usr , I want them as somefile.deb How can I do it, And where i got these files, I extraced some .deb file, made some changes, now I want these same as before. HELP, googled buy failing.
[14:55] <caribou> Is there an easy trick to boot a vivid cloud image with systemd as PID 1 ?
[14:55] <caribou> looks like changing /etc/default/grub is not cutting it
[15:00] <jamespage> caribou, you would need to update-initrd afterwards
[15:00] <RoyK> jamespage: update-initramfs -u
[15:00] <caribou> jamespage: ah, that's the trick, update-grub just isn't enough
[15:00] <jamespage> as RoyK says
[15:01] <caribou> jamespage: RoyK: thanks working fine
[15:46] <acmehandle> I'm getting a pam.d cant open /etc/default/locale error in one of my logs.  I did a search and found a bug submt going back to 2010.
[15:46] <acmehandle> How was it resolved recently?
[15:46] <acmehandle> I'm on 14
[15:47] <acmehandle> Is this related to sudo?
[16:17] <hxm> is possible to create a sh script with fdisk instructions?
[16:18] <rbasak> hxm: look into sfdisk(8)
[16:18] <hxm> ok thanks
[16:48] <hxm> i have other question
[16:48] <hxm> what is the file in the system which starts up the enviroment?
[16:48] <hxm> /boot/?
[16:48] <hxm> if there is no grub, what other thing i can use
[16:49] <hxm> uboot? that's binary, how can i select the kernel ?
[16:52] <qman> hxm: grub is the default and supported bootloader
[16:52] <hxm> ah, ok
[16:53] <qman> Others exist such as lilo (old and not likely to work) and syslinux (usually used for cd or netboot)
[16:54] <hxm> so what is uboot for? only embebed systems?
[16:54] <qman> Never heard of it
[16:55] <jhobbs> it's really popular for ARM
[16:55] <jhobbs> for embedded systems and more
[16:55] <jhobbs> phones, servers
[16:55] <hxm> ah, those devices
[16:55] <jhobbs> but it supports many architectures
[16:56] <jhobbs> you're almost certainly not running it on an x86 system
[16:56] <hxm> super correct
[17:46] <acmehandle> How do I set vims system wide settings?
[17:50] <lordievader> acmehandle: According to the manual /usr/share/vim/vimrc
[17:59] <deever> hi
[17:59] <deever> for mysql-server, can i somehow change datadir right upon installation?
[18:21] <semiosis> jamespage: i'd like to get that process moving again, yes.
[18:22] <semiosis> jamespage: i need to sync up my PPA package changes with debian experimental, then merge that into ubuntu.  the upstream devs did a bunch of work fixing static analysis issues raised by the MIR security review but i think some still haven't been backported to release branches
[18:57] <smb> hallyn, So fwiw, I just uploaded a qemu to vivid which gives back the kvm-spice link
[20:06] <jsmith-argotec> Samba question - Had the SSL cert expire for my LDAP server and all samba auth stopped working.  Corrected the cert issue but now getting a different auth issue with any user: "init_sam_from_ldap: Entry found for user: jake smith, passdb/lookup_sid.c:1684(get_primary_group_sid) Failed to find a Unix account for jake smithUser jake smith in passdb, but getpwnam() fails!
[20:08] <sarnold> jsmith-argotec: on first guess that sounds like something that might go away if you restart samba and associated daemons; I could imagine "replaced an expired LDAP certificate" might not be commonly tested
[20:10] <jsmith-argotec> I did restart ldap and samba (a few times now).  Checked nsswitch file - was files ldap - tried swapping without any change.
[20:11] <sarnold> dang
[20:11] <jsmith-argotec> yeah!
[20:11] <jsmith-argotec> :-(
[20:12] <sarnold> jsmith-argotec: if it were my problem to debug I'd either (a) go reading through the source to find one of those error messages or (b) break out strace and find the systemcalls samba makes when reporting those errors; neither one would be much fun but they might let you find variables we're missing
[20:14] <jsmith-argotec> sarnold: ouch... might start getting outside my abilities to decipher what I would find but I will head that way
[20:14] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: that sounds like a samba error.  look for slapd errors.  possibly run slapd in debug mode (add '-d -1')
[20:14] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: also, did you ensure slapd started up properly?
[20:15] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: you mean that sounds like an ldap error?
[20:15] <jsmith-argotec> slapd rather?
[20:15] <sarnold> pmatulis: oo
[20:15] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: i meant, it sounds like an error found in the samba logs
[20:15] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: check the slapd logs
[20:16] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: it is an error from the samba logs.
[20:16] <jsmith-argotec> ok
[20:17] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: also try authenticating to slapd re TLS using a command line tool (ldapwhoami).  get samba out of the way
[20:19] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: is this a similiar test?  ldapsearch -xLLL -vvv -H ldaps://192.168.x.x -b dc=domain,dc=com ou=people uid
[20:21] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldaps://192.168.x.x/: Can't contact LDAP server
[20:21] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: just found I still have an auth error around ldap ^^^
[20:22] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: add -ZZ to enforce TLS
[20:22] <NigeyS> Does anyone know if its possible to set rsyslogd to output via a different eth interface? i want to bind it to eth1 not eth0
[20:22] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: and you should really not be using LDAP over TLS (ldaps) but StartTLS instead
[20:23] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: ldapsearch -xLLL -vvvvvv -ZZ -H ldap://192.168.x.x -b dc=argotec,dc=com ou=people uid
[20:23] <jsmith-argotec> successful ^^
[20:24] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: very good
[20:24] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: so slapd is running and TLS is working
[20:25] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: that's good...
[20:26] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: you can try starting slapd in high debug mode or try to find a less verbose debug mode, and then try connecting from samba
[20:26] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: could it have really been that nscd cache was stale?!?!?!
[20:27] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: oof
[20:28] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: ??
[20:29] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: sorry, i thought you got it running by restarting nscd
[20:29] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: or flushing its cache
[20:29] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: looks like I did!  just thought of it because of the nss-ldap error and restarted nscd... seems to be good now
[20:30] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: I think that makes sense...?
[20:30] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: good.  with nscd nothing makes much sense.  it's a piece of used jet trash
[20:30] <jsmith-argotec> pmatulis: hahahaha!
[20:32] <hadifarnoud> for some reason, we need to setup our own DNS servers. there are many options out there. since it's a critical part of our Saas app, I'd like to know your opinion on how to do it
[20:34] <hadifarn_> for some reason, we need to setup our own DNS servers. there are many options out there. since it's a critical part of our Saas app, I'd like to know your opinion on how to do it
[20:55] <pmatulis> hadifarn_: choose you poison, bind or dnsmasq and go from there
[20:56] <hadifarn_> pmatulis: since I want to add domains to it via a php app on another server, which one you recommend?
[20:57] <pmatulis> hadifarn_: no idea about PHP, sorry
[20:58] <hadifarn_> pmatulis: which one is easier to setup?
[20:58] <hadifarn_> no djbdns?
[21:02] <zzxc> Hey I'm creating a new SSL keyfile. Does anyone know how to specify to use a SHA-256 signature?
[21:04] <teward> zzxc: you mean the actual key file that you need to provide for the cert to work?  or the CSR?
[21:05] <zzxc> teward: My understanding was you first generated a keyfile, then used the key to geneate the CSR
[21:06] <avid_fan> zzxc: Maybe this might help: http://itigloo.com/security/generate-an-openssl-certificate-request-with-sha-256-signature/
[21:06] <teward> zzxc: i think the key is just the key, not the signature, and that the CSR is created/signed with that key - at least, from what I've seen
[21:06] <teward> zzxc: you can define -sha256 when you generate the CSR
[21:06] <avid_fan> zzxc: Step 1 creates a key with a SHA-256 signature
[21:06] <zzxc> So the inital keyfile, to answer your question teward.
[21:07] <teward> ahhh yes ,i was wrong
[21:07] <teward> zzxc: -sha256
[21:07] <teward> add that to the arguments, forces the SHA-256 signature
[21:07] <teward> also provide it with the CSR
[21:07] <teward> CSR command if you want to enforce sha256 signature
[21:07] <teward> (not necessary, I think, if the key is sha256, but i'm always overly paranoid about things not doing what I want)
[21:07] <zzxc> avid_fan: Yeah that was what I was using as a reference but everything after the block length seems to be ignored. I accidently misplaces the -dec3 flag and it skipped it without complaing that it shouldn't have been there.
[21:09] <zzxc> teward: Also if I add -sha256 to the arguements it complains that it doesn't know what the flag means.
[21:11] <teward> heh, then the docs i have are old...
[21:11]  * teward shrugs
[21:20] <jsmith-argotec> sarnold: pmatulis: Thank you both for your help!
[21:20] <zzxc> teward: *sign* man this is irksome. Well thanks I'll keep digging.
[21:22] <teward> zzxc: i'm digging in the manpage now. but i'm going to poke ##openssl and ask
[21:22] <zzxc> teward: Haha I was actually just about to head over there and ask the same thing
[21:22] <avid_fan> zzxc: I'm not an expert in SSL, certs, keys, and the like, but I'm not sure that keys have a signature.
[21:23] <qman> Keys have fingerprints or thumbprints, same idea, different name
[21:24] <zzxc> Yeah. OpenSSL was complaing that my current key is sha1.
[21:25] <zzxc> Sorry ssllabs*
[21:26] <avid_fan> zzxc: Gotcha
[21:27] <pmatulis> jsmith-argotec: welcome
[21:32] <JosephDuffy> Hi everyone. I feel like I'm on the very last steps of getting my mail server working and could use some help. I'm using postfix and courier and can't get SMTP to authenticate. Is anyone able to help?
[21:35] <pmatulis> !ask | JosephDuffy
[21:40] <JosephDuffy> Ok, I don't have a specific issue since I'm struggling to get to that point. Here's what I know: I followed a tutorial (http://www.pixelinx.com/2013/09/creating-a-mail-server-on-ubuntu-postfix-courier-ssltls-spamassassin-clamav-amavis/). I'm using MySQL to store the users, and when I use the command "testsaslauthd -u<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p password -s smtp" I get "0: NO "authentication failed"". I can connect a
[21:40] <JosephDuffy> nd recieve mail via IMAP and POP. I have nothing in /var/log/auth.log and I can see the requests reaching MySQL. In /etc/pam.d/smtp I have http://pastebin.com/agABukjE
[21:42] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: courier, interesting.  most 'buntu folks use dovecot
[21:43] <JosephDuffy> I'm willing to start over. I'm not much of a server admin so I went for the tutorial that looked easiest. Apparently it didn't go so well
[21:43] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: well your choice but you are more likely to get further help on dovecot than courier
[21:44] <pmatulis> (if using Ubuntu)
[21:44] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: but do things work with TLS turned off?
[21:45] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: so everything works except the testsaslauthd command?
[21:45] <JosephDuffy> For SMTP? I'm not sure I've checked, but I've been doing most of my tests by telnet port 25 so not secure. I just posted the testsaslauthd because that's the only sort of error message I can get
[21:46] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: ok, so IMAP and POP3 work
[21:46] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: but SMTP does not
[21:46] <JosephDuffy> pmatulis: Yes. SSL over those doesn't seem to but that's not a big deal right now. SMTP fails on auth
[21:48] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: does SMTP work with TLS turned off?  last time i used it, postfix and smtp-auth was a bit hacked together
[21:49] <JosephDuffy> I'll try turning it off
[21:52] <JosephDuffy> pmatulis: That didn't seem to help
[21:52] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: well, make sure non-TLS works before moving on to TLS
[21:52] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: you might find better help on #postfix . be prepared to provide a pastebin of 'postconf -n' and a chunk of postfix log messages
[21:53] <JosephDuffy> pmatulis: Thanks, didn't even realise that was a room. I'll move myself over there. Thanks :)
[21:53] <pmatulis> JosephDuffy: welcome
[22:55] <NTQ> Hi. I have some problems installing a mailserver with postfix, postfixadmin, dovecot and roundcube on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS Server. Here are some more information: http://nopaste.info/ede8334a86.html
[22:58] <NTQ> I used a german-speaking tutorial: http://wiki.nefarius.at/linux/der_perfekte_mail-server
[23:00] <keithzg> NTQ: When you say you're trying to connect with Thunderbird, do you mean to your mailbox via IMAP, or to send a message via SMTP?
[23:00] <patdk-wk> well, fix all those errors and warnings
[23:00] <patdk-wk> nothing can work, when it says FATAL ERROR
[23:01] <keithzg> Yeah, "fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms" seems pretty definitive about that, heh.
[23:02] <NTQ> I am new to set up a mail server. This is my first try. ;) So I have no idea where to look first when I see such errors.
[23:02] <patdk-wk> google!
[23:03] <patdk-wk> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ubuntu+fatal+no+sasl+authentication+mechanisms
[23:03] <NTQ> Google is my friend, but there is also an IRC
[23:03]  * keithzg currently has a postfix-related issue of his own, trying to figure out how to minimally filter out all messages with "X-Spam-Flag: YES" via postfix, on a server where SpamAssassin can't really be installed (but it's getting messages already flagged by spamassassin on another server, it just needs to notice and shelve or delete them)
[23:03] <patdk-wk> sure there is irc
[23:03] <patdk-wk> I just googled it for you
[23:03] <patdk-wk> now you just need to read and fix it :)
[23:03] <patdk-wk> keithzg, header_checks
[23:04] <keithzg> patdk-wk: aha, thanks, all *my* google searches were overflowing with folks saying "of course, you just use this script that calls spamc . . ." which doesn't work when the server in question resists compiling the damn thing, heh
[23:05] <NTQ> The directory /var/spool/postfix/private/auth does not exist. I was hoping you can lead me to the right direction to find the misconfiguration.
[23:05] <patdk-wk> ntq, fix dovecot
[23:07] <NTQ> Maybe I should reset all dovecot config files and start from the beginning. ;)
[23:08] <NTQ> Or simply use a simple dovecot.conf and not that whole bunch of files in conf.d
[23:09] <patdk-wk> both sound kindof insane
[23:10] <patdk-wk> your using postfixadmin
[23:10] <patdk-wk> you should have configured dovecot the way postfixadmin required
[23:10] <patdk-wk> then you should have configured dovecot how postfix requires for sasl and lmtp
[23:11] <patdk-wk> it looks like your using dovecot lda, that is not a very good option, but your using 12.04, and I can't remember if you have lmtp in that version or not
[23:11] <patdk-wk> the fix is like 2 lines to dovecot
[23:11] <patdk-wk> how many other problems? not sure
[23:11] <patdk-wk> how many other problems will you have if you start over? not sure
[23:12] <patdk-wk> if I must do your google for you: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixAndDovecotSASL
[23:14] <NTQ> I already found that link, thank you. I'll give my best. :)
[23:31] <NTQ> Now the path /var/spool/postfix/private/auth exists. I tried a new login attempt with Roundcube and in mail.log there are now some failed login attempts. But i think the problem is here that the method was PLAIN. I will try it with thunderbird now.
[23:36] <NTQ> I got now this errors: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/420773/
[23:45] <patdk-wk> sounds like you have tls/ssl configured incorrectly
[23:46] <Ironlenny> Has anyone dealt with nat port forwarding in kvm?
[23:48] <patdk-wk> really funky you have pipelining disabled on submission port though
[23:49] <patdk-wk> whoa, that tutorial you used is old as hell
[23:49] <patdk-wk> dovecot 1.2? postfix 2.5?
[23:50] <patdk-wk> what does your master.cf file look like?
[23:52] <ScottK> IIRC the Ubuntu server guide has rather more up to date instructions.