[06:35] <lufis> cfedde: Well, I've heard good things about Creative Audigy but I can't seem to find one that isn't way overpriced and way over what I need
[06:35] <tanath> Soccrmastr: is it in the repos?
[06:35] <KrakensDen> gob
[06:35] <KrakensDen> er
[06:35] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: click on the wireless card, hit 'edit'
[06:35] <Soccrmastr> tanath: yeah, get gphoto2 and gtkam
[06:35] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: in the networking dialog
[06:35] <Soccrmastr> tanath: gtkam is the ui
[06:35] <tanath> ah. thx
[06:36] <Soccrmastr> np
[06:36] <Goblyn> KrakensDen: you mean properties?
[06:36] <Rexkwando> Dr_Willis: error reads:  synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:36] <bisconer> arg i can download faster then i can burn a cd
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: yup
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Goblyn: oops
[06:38] <Admin__> Is there a ssh Client (To log onto ssh) for windows
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Admin__: putty
[06:38] <naji> Admin__: cygwin
[06:38] <zenwhen> Admin__: putty
[06:38] <KrakensDen> Admin__: google it
[06:39] <typicalRunt> hi
[06:39] <KrakensDen> moin
[06:39] <Admin__> Googled it. Wasnt sure if they were for letting people log in or logging in.
[06:39] <KrakensDen> it's a client, not a server :)
[06:39] <typicalRunt> i'm using dapper with sqlite3 (v3.2.8-1ubuntu1).  anyone notice that "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS" doesn't work anymore?
[06:40] <typicalRunt> it fails on the "IF EXISTS" optional keywords
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !info libvte
[06:42] <ubotu> Package libvte does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <Rexkwando> hmm
[06:42] <Rexkwando> yeah, I noticed that in my travels too
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Rexkwando,  try sudo apt-get install libvte4
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> ' apt-cache search libvte4  '
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> shows all the related packages
[06:43] <Rexkwando> I did, it said not present
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !info libvte4
[06:43] <ubotu> libvte4: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 661 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> its libvte4 :P what did a try to install?
[06:44] <Rexkwando> it's libvte.so.4
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> thats the file name. the package name is libvte4
[06:44] <Rexkwando> it says that it's already installed and current
[06:44] <wweasel> Hey. I am having trouble with GRUB. I am trying to install Ubuntu via Instlux (my reasons for doing so are complicated, frustrating, and unavoidable). What it does is it puts a initrd.gz and a linux file in a folder on the c drive, and installs grub to get them.  I get an "Error 19: Cannot mount selected partition"
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> also theres libvte-common - Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Rexkwando,  its possible that file some how got currupted.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> or your library path got messed up
[06:45] <KrakensDen> wweasel: what's the filesystem?
[06:46] <wweasel> KrakensDen: NTFS. I imagine that's the problem?
[06:46] <KrakensDen> wweasel: I don't think grub
[06:46] <KrakensDen> can actually read ntfs
[06:46] <Rexkwando> okay, I can accept that... any suggestions?
[06:46] <wweasel> KrakensDen: Can it do it if I pass the right kernel argument? Can it do FAT32?
[06:46] <KrakensDen> much more likely
[06:46] <KrakensDen> been a long time since I've done grub though :/
[06:48] <detectiveinspekt> hello
[06:48] <detectiveinspekt> I want a webmail program so people can check emails over the web
[06:49] <detectiveinspekt> on my server
[06:49] <zachwmrunner> hey guys
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> detectiveinspekt,  you got a email server on your own machine?
[06:49] <zachwmrunner> i just installed UbUnTu!!!!!!
[06:49] <detectiveinspekt> no
[06:49] <wweasel> Can GRUB boot off an external HD?
[06:49] <detectiveinspekt> i just have a standard install
[06:49] <wweasel> SOrry, that was poorly phrased.
[06:50] <Killeroid> wweasel: yeah
[06:50] <Rexkwando> Dr_Willis THANKS!  uninstalled and reinstalled libvte-common: fixed.
[06:50] <wweasel> Can GRUB instruct the computer to boot a partition located on an external HD? What about a CD-ROM drive?
[06:50] <Killeroid> wweasel: yeah
[06:50] <wweasel> CD-ROM too?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> detectiveinspekt, not cd i think
[06:51] <wweasel> next question: how?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> unless its a new feature
[06:51] <wweasel> for CD
[06:51] <detectiveinspekt> I just need a simpile webmail server
[06:51] <wweasel> Dr_Willis: Are you talking to me about the CD?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> heh proberly
[06:51] <Killeroid> wweasel: just specify the path to the boot files on the cd
[06:53] <sesho12345> hi , can anyone tell me how to find out the default gateway ?
[06:54] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: if you have a plastic nat [a linkys box, etc]  it's probably either <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:54] <wweasel> Killeroid: the kernel argument normally had (hd0,0) or something of the sort. how would I do cd?
[06:54] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: but try using DHCP instead
[06:54] <wheels3572> Where can I find certain programs that I want.
[06:54] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: life is easier that way
[06:55] <wweasel> sesho12345: <IP_ADDRESS> is also possible.
[06:55] <KrakensDen> sesho12345: and just about everything is set up for it
[06:55] <wweasel> try all 3
[06:55] <KrakensDen> wheels3572: what programs?
[06:55] <wheels3572> KrakensDen, I am actually looking for an alarm program that i can set alarms
[06:56] <sesho12345> KrakensDen, i dont want to set up a network , im in someone elses house and trying to fix up a windows (!) connection , except that windows can't connect , so im using linux to get the networks info
[06:56] <CyDrive>  Can someone help me my sound will not work it just stopped working i tried re-booting but it still wont work i have not installed any new programs recently either
[06:56] <bruenig> !info sanduhr
[06:56] <ubotu> sanduhr: an alarm clock, which is designed as a hourglass. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-4 (dapper), package size 451 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[06:56] <bruenig> !info wmtimer
[06:56] <ubotu> wmtimer: A dockable alarm clock for WindowMaker. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.92-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 112 kB
[06:57] <Maje> I can't get 3D acceleration working, xorg log says DRI initialization failed, and my OpenGL driver is fglrx_dri.so - anyone help me out here?
[06:57] <Killeroid> wweasel: you will use same convention. your cdrom drive will occup a new line with (cd0,0) or something like that
[06:57] <bruenig> wheels3572, there are a few alarm clocks that work on media players as well
[06:57] <bruenig> like xmms or beep media player
[06:57] <sesho12345> i think i found the solution though......"route"
[06:57] <farous> Maje: did you install the restricted modules package
[06:57] <sesho12345> KrakensDen, thank you anyway!
[06:57] <Maje> farous: yes
[06:58] <farous> Maje: what type of card
[06:58] <Maje> farous: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[06:58] <farous> Maje: did you reboot after installing fglrx. did you install from repos?
[06:58] <lmosher> Maje, i've got that exact card. How did you install the drivers?
[06:58] <wheels3572> bruenig, really?  So there is an alarm clock program on some of the media players?
[06:59] <Maje> farous: Yes, yes, yes
[06:59] <Maje> lmosher: I followed the instructions on the wiki.
[06:59] <lmosher> Maje, Which ones?
[06:59] <lmosher> the ones taht said download the package and change xorg.conf to fglrx?
[06:59] <farous> Maje: i have ati 9600 but lmosher can help you more as he have the same card
[06:59] <Maje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:59] <bruenig> wheels3572, those two that I posted sanduhr and wmtimer, as well as things like xmms-alarm and bmp-alarm
[07:00] <bruenig> the last two are dependent on xmms and beep media player respectively
[07:00] <wheels3572> bruenig, I have xmms music player is that different then xmms-alarm?
[07:00] <Maje> lmosher: after following those instructions, I still don't have proper OpenGL (the Mesa bit)...so I looked in my xorg log, and it said DRI initialization failed
[07:00] <lmosher> Maje, Personally I suggest: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:00] <bruenig> wheels3572, xmms-alarm is a plugin
[07:00] <bruenig> !info xmms-alarm
[07:00] <ubotu> xmms-alarm: xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 128 kB
[07:01] <bruenig> if you have the universe repository enabled just do sudo apt-get install xmms-alarm
[07:01] <atoponce> EpP: word.
[07:01] <Maje> lmosher: I think I tried those instructions at one point, too... :(
[07:01] <lmosher> Maje, If possible I would restore your xorg.conf to original, follow those instructions and reboot. If it doesn't work come back here, but I did that literally 10 minutes ago
[07:01] <EpP> atoponce, Word up
[07:01] <Maje> I did it before, but I'll try to clean everything up and do it again, let's hope i missed something the first time
[07:02] <tale_> I created a software raid array and now I want to remove it.  Can somebody tell me how to do that?
[07:02] <lmosher> Maje, Give it a shot, if not we'll take a look at the modules section. Other than that there's not much I can think of. Any ideas farous?
[07:03] <wweasel> Ok, How would I get GRUB to boot a Dapper install cd. I am at the prompt, I type e to edit the commands before booting. what do I put in for kernel and initrd?
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> I can't seem to get my swap to mount.  Whenever I reboot, I have no swap mounted.  I look in dmesg and it says "Unable to find swap-space signature."  I mkswap /dev/hda4 (my swap partition) and swapon and it works fine, but when I reboot it still won't work :-/
[07:03] <lmosher> wweasel, You can't configure your BIOS to boot the CD? it tries to boot the HDD?
[07:03] <Admin__> Im in my SSH!
[07:04] <bruenig> FilesLikeABrick, is it formatted properly in the fstab?
[07:04] <wheels3572> !xmms-alarm > wheels3572
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> yep bruenig appears to be
[07:04] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: is the entry right in /etc/fstab?
[07:04] <a-priori> err, bit slow there :)
[07:04] <bruenig> it has the sw option?
[07:04] <wweasel> lmosher: No, that would make sense, right? I want to install Ubuntu on a laptop that is BIOS locked.
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> if it wasn't in /etc/fstab right, it wouldn't be trying to mount it and therefore I wouldn't be getting this swap signature error
[07:04] <lordhelmet> hey i have an apache2 question, is anybody good with configuring it?
[07:04] <wweasel> lmosher: I have managed to get GRUB using Windows.
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> /dev/hda4 none swap sw 0 0
[07:04] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: it would do that if the device wasn't right
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> alright a-priori, though it is right
[07:05] <wheels3572> bruenig, Only 1 dumb question how the heck do I use the alarm system now lol
[07:05] <bruenig> FliesLikeABrick, should look like this /dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:05] <lmosher> wweasel, hehe sorry I had to ask :P I can't help tho sorry I've never even tried that. You could look up the normal commands to boot a kernel and apply them to your CD drive (like /dev/hdc or whatever it is)
[07:05] <bruenig> wheels3572, no idea, probably something within xmms, go to options or whatever the proper dialogue window is in xmms. I have never used it
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> yes bruenig see what I said 2 messages ago, it looks the same
[07:05] <bruenig> ah
[07:05] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: hmm... looks fine to me
[07:06] <bruenig> sorry I was typing it out
[07:06] <wheels3572> bruenig, ok
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> when I try to do swapon /dev/hda4 without immediately doing "mkswap" right before it, I get "swapon: /dev/hda4: Invalid argument"
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> though if I mkswap /dev/hda4 first, it works
[07:06] <bruenig> FLiesLikeABrick, you could make a script that does the mkswap and swapon, and then have it run at startup
[07:06] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: does dmesg say anything useful after a failed swapon?
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> bruenig but the main reason I really want swap working is so I can hibernate my laptop again
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> no a-priori
[07:07] <lordhelmet> with mkswap you have to specify device/partition
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> I am lordhelmet
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm just abbreviating what I'm saying because I don't feel like writing /dev/hda4 after everything I say
[07:08] <foxjwill> Hi. Synaptic won't open and Add/Remove programs quits after I press "apply" or "ok" (if I've selected things to be installed). I'm able to install things thru aptitude, but it's not as convenient
[07:08] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: this is a strange problem... is it possible that /dev/hda4 is being modified on bootup somehow to erase that signature?
[07:08] <FliesLikeABrick> thats what it would seem a-priori
[07:08] <bruenig> foxjwill, it is more convenient
[07:08] <foxjwill> well, i guess
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> I just compiled my own kernel.  I'm going to reboot into a packaged kernel and see if it works
[07:09] <foxjwill> but i just would like it to work
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> in the kernel config, is there something that can cause problems with swap?
[07:09] <bruenig> foxjwill, a lot of people have had problems after the an apparent update. I didn't get an update and am not having those problems. perhaps if you can roll back the updates it would work
[07:09] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: not that I know of...
[07:09] <bruenig> -an
[07:09] <foxjwill> how?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> foxjwill,  run it from a terminal and see if theres an error message
[07:10] <foxjwill> ok
[07:10] <bruenig> foxjwill, I thought you said it already worked from terminal
[07:10] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah a-priori I didn't think so either.  Usually I can solve these kinds of problems on my own... but I had to come here this time :-/
[07:10] <foxjwill> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> also theres libvte-common - Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> foxjwill,  some one was just in here.. he had to reinstall that package. libvte-common (i think)
[07:10] <foxjwill> ok
[07:10] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: another thing you could check is dumping the first sector of /dev/hda4 before and after mkswap
[07:10] <foxjwill> i'll try that
[07:10] <a-priori> see if anything changes
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> or one of the other libvte packages
 Dr_Willis THANKS!  uninstalled and reinstalled libvte-common: fixed
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> hm a-priori it seems to only be a problem with the kernel I compiled
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> I just rebooted into a ubuntu kernel and it mounted fine
[07:11] <a-priori> really?
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah :-x
[07:11] <Maje> No go, and my xorg.log seems to be reporting the same DRI initialization problem
[07:12] <a-priori> could be the suspending, maybe?
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori it has the issue even without suspending
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> if I just reboot, it won't mount it proper on the next boot
[07:12] <spitzanator> Hi!  I've got two Opteron processors with Ubuntu, and for some reason, it's not detecting my second processor.  Any thoughts?  I think I need a kernel upgrade, but I don't know.  uname gives me this: 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> or it mounts it properly once, then fails after that
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> let me reboot one more time to make sure
[07:12] <a-priori> okay
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> (this might have been the first boot after my mkswap)
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> if it mounts fine on the next boot, the last thing to try with the ubuntu kernel is suspending to disk
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> and resuming
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> spitzanator: is that a 64 bit processor?
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> if that works, then I'll try a slightly older 2.6.17 kernel.  If I can narrow it down to a specific version, I'll file a kernel bug report
[07:13] <Suspect> Hey everyone
[07:13] <spitzanator> It is, but I want to use the 32bit stuff.
[07:13] <bruenig> !offtopic > Suspect
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> sparkleytone what version of ubuntu?
[07:14] <Suspect> yes bruenig
[07:14] <Suspect> I am here for support
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> bruenig that isn't necessarily offtopic...
[07:14] <spitzanator> I want to run Wine, so I've been advised not to do a 64 bit installation.
[07:14] <Suspect> But I'm just saying hi
[07:14] <Suspect> :p
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> heh
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> spitzanator: try sudo apt-get linux-686
[07:14] <spitzanator> Will that give me SMP support?
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator upgrade to a 686 kernel to make sure you have smp support (so it recognizes both processors)
[07:14] <FliesLikeABrick> yes spitzanator
[07:14] <spitzanator> And still let me have a 32bit installation?
[07:15] <Suspect> Stupid windows.. re-wrote the MBR (Or removed GRUB) and I am not sure how to get it back.. Whats the easiest way?
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> yes spitzanator
[07:15] <bruenig> !grub
[07:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:15] <tale_> can anybody help me remove a software raid partition?
[07:15] <spitzanator> You're wonderful.
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> I don't think the 386 kernel (defaullt during install) has SMP support
[07:15] <spitzanator> Thanks!
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Suspect
[07:15] <Suspect> lmao
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator you may want to try a kernel ending in amd64 so that you can have a 64 bit kernel with a 32 bit userland
[07:15] <spitzanator> I believe that that's over my head.
[07:15] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori it mounted fine on another reboot.  going to test it with a suspend to disk and resume now
[07:16] <[dc] -nonda> ok i am new to linux i am trying to do gentoo right now but im thinking its a lil to hard form me is this easier
[07:16] <Suspect> thanks guys
[07:16] <foxjwill> yeah, it was that
[07:16] <[dc] -nonda> but i still want something challageing
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator you won't see a difference, the 64 bit stuff is all behind the scenes
[07:16] <spitzanator> I'm 2 for 5 on Linux installations in my life, and I want this one to work.
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> I use this on my opteron servers
[07:16] <spitzanator> Ah.
[07:16] <foxjwill> something didn't work with that upgrade
[07:16] <spitzanator> But what's the userland thing?
[07:16] <bruenig> [dc] -nonda, yeah gentoo is not really a distro to start with
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> spitzanator userland means that your programs run in a 32 bit environment
[07:16] <FliesLikeABrick> but your kernel gets the advantage of a 64 bit system
[07:16] <spitzanator> FLAB, how would I set that up?  Also, heh.  Flab.
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> try apt-cache search linux-image | grep amd64
[07:17] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: alright, let me know how it goes
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm not sure exactly what the kernel is named in ubuntu, my servers are debian
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> looks to be working a-priori
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> so I'll try a couple of other kernels tomorrow
[07:17] <Soccrmastr> tanath: is the app working for u?
[07:17] <spitzanator> FLAB, I'll check that out, but maybe in a bit.  Thanks though!
[07:17] <a-priori> okay... try starting again from the default kernel config
[07:17] <a-priori> and going from there
[07:18] <stopher> ladies and gentlemen: BlueEagle is da bomb!
[07:18] <Soccrmastr> stopher: should we run?
[07:18] <tanath> Soccrmastr: haven't tried. no pics to bother with at the moment
[07:18] <tanath> Soccrmastr: you?
[07:18] <Soccrmastr> tanath: ah, ok
[07:18] <stopher> lol only if you think you should BlueEagle
[07:18] <stopher> umm i mean Soccrmastr
[07:18] <Soccrmastr> tanath: yup works for me
[07:18] <Maje> alright lmosher, I tried all that, and it's still not working, xorg still whines about DRI initialization
[07:18] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori I'm going to try going back to the latest 2.6.16 kernel with the same .config
[07:19] <Soccrmastr> lol, stopher, if hes "da bomb" shouldn't we all bne running from him!
[07:19] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: okay... it's probably some wonky setting in your custom .config
[07:19] <tanath> Soccrmastr: k. then prolly for me too
[07:19] <Soccrmastr> tanath: ok lol
[07:19] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah a-priori thats what I think too, but rather than going around and looking for settings, I'm going to first try the other kernel since that is easier
[07:20] <a-priori> alright
[07:20] <waggle7622frack> Anyone good with samba\networking?
[07:20] <FliesLikeABrick> I should know within half an hour (only takes 30 mins to compile on here fortunately)
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm decent waggle7622frack but I may be too busy to answer your question, depending on what you need
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> the best thing to do is just ask and then see who answers
[07:21] <a-priori> only? :P
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  :) depends on the question.
[07:21] <Soccrmastr> lol, who wnats to be a millionaire (german version) software malfunction, started blinking the right answer, before he said anything. sholda used linux ;)
[07:21] <Warbo> Soccrmastr: Did he win a million?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Soccrmastr,  seen that happen on the price is right tv show .
[07:22] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori since swtiching to linux I've started just keeping and using older hardware for everyday use, though this isn't that old.  I was compiling on a 386 kernel before, so it should be faster once I install a 686 kernel
[07:22] <Soccrmastr> um, both answers r no
[07:22] <a-priori> yeah, that's the best strategy: fire off the question, no preamble, and see who responds... someone's bound to know what you're talking about.
[07:22] <torpedo|dog> Dr_Willis: I think most of The Price is Right is actually done by Secret People behind the scenes ;)
[07:22] <FliesLikeABrick> a-priori how long are you going to be around?
[07:22] <a-priori> FliesLikeABrick: okay, I was just pulling your leg
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> torpedo|dog,  the barker babes. :P
[07:22] <a-priori> I dunno, not too much longer
[07:22] <a-priori> maybe half an hour
[07:22] <waggle7622frack> My kde machine cant see anyone on my network but everyone on the network can see it and I can ping them.
[07:22] <tanath> Soccrmastr: yeah, works fine, but it's really friggin slow
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> torpedodog: lol I thought it was run by small chldren taken from third world countries and they have them running on hamster wheels
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  the other machines are xp machines?
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> tanath: heh not for me
[07:23] <waggle7622frack> xp and ubuntu
[07:23] <torpedo|dog> Soccrmastr: never said what kind of people they were ;)
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  you may want to try the smb4k samba browser. it seems to scan a little smarter.
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> tanath: you can use command line too, not slow at all
[07:23] <Soccrmastr> heh
[07:23] <torpedo|dog> Are there any risks involved in installing bootchart?
[07:24] <haasteem> hi, can the fact that i don't have any sound (onboard sound module) have anything to do with the fact that at boot "loading hardware drivers" and "PCMCIA services" both gave a fail%?
[07:24] <tanath> Soccrmastr: it's also unable to delete as well
[07:24] <torpedo|dog> For some reason, I get a little bit squeamish about my boot.
[07:24] <Soccrmastr> tanath: no its able to delete
[07:24] <waggle7622frack> Ok I'll try that. Thanks!
[07:24] <tanath> Soccrmastr: no. it's not
[07:24] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem loading pcmcia services seems to fail on any desktop without pcmcia hardware, it is not something to worry about
[07:24] <FliesLikeABrick> waggle7622frack rather than trying to browse the network, just do \\computername to browse its' resources
[07:24] <Soccrmastr> tanath: you wanan bet before I prove you wrong
[07:24] <tanath> Soccrmastr: i am speaking from experience, so sure!
[07:25] <tanath> Soccrmastr: i just tried, and it failed
[07:25] <Soccrmastr> tanath: ok well have nothing to bet but ehre
[07:25] <Maje> Okay, it seems xorg has fglrx_dri.so as my OpenGL driver, but the file is nonexistant on my computer
[07:25] <Soccrmastr> tanath: in command line, --delete-all-files
[07:25] <tanath> no no
[07:25] <tanath> Soccrmastr: why would i want to do that?
[07:25] <Soccrmastr> tanath: in UI, filedelete photos
[07:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: in UI, you can delete selected or all
[07:26] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: what about the loading hardware drivers failure? i get this message "udevd-event[4648]  run-program '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit"
[07:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: havent looked at command line command for individual file deltions, but I'm sure ther eis one
[07:26] <Soccrmastr> tanath: run gphoto2 in terminal will show you all commands
[07:26] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem does everything seem to work fine once the computer is booted?
[07:27] <tanath> meh, it's all good. i can delete very easy on the camera
[07:27] <Soccrmastr> tanath: lol you can delete fine on the program too
[07:27] <racarter> is there some known problem with playing asf files with mplayer on ubuntu?
[07:28] <tanath> Soccrmastr: nope. says failed
[07:28] <Soccrmastr> tanath: camera must be detected, and turned onto usb
[07:28] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: yeah... sofar it has, except for the sound (and there is something weird with my vmware installation now)
[07:28] <Soccrmastr> anyone know a reason why mplayer is loading the files then just saying stopped without ever playing them
[07:28] <tanath> Soccrmastr: yeh, i was viewing the thumbnails of the pics on it... which took forever to load
[07:28] <Soccrmastr> its working for soem videos, others its just stopping
[07:29] <Soccrmastr> tanath: fine, you win.... or do you??
[07:29] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem if everything is working fine, then I'd say don't worry about those errors.  Your sound problems are likely due to some other configuration issue
[07:29] <stopher> okay now maybe someone else can help me.. when i log onto ubuntu text server, it gives me ext3-fs error (device hda1)  ext3_find_entry  reading directory # 81762 offset 0.  When I use sudo apt-get install *  it says ive been locked and read-only
[07:30] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: maybe... the worrying thing though is that if i boot from the live cd, i still get no sound
[07:30] <stopher> what's the problem here?
[07:30] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem what sound card do you have?
[07:31] <SurfnKid> thank god my synaptic is back
[07:31] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick:  Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[07:31] <FliesLikeABrick> heh. via
[07:31] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick:  nothing special
[07:32] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem for a problem this specific, try www.ubuntuforums.org and www.linuxquestions.org
[07:32] <FliesLikeABrick> IRC is generally a lot more useful for general questions ;)
[07:32] <PyroManiak> Anyone have any experience with remote X terminals?
[07:33] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: right
[07:33] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: there must be a solution...
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> exactly haasteem
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> sound issues are not uncommon, certain chipsets (especially onboard sound) have certain quirks
[07:33] <anon903> is azereus still available?
[07:34] <FliesLikeABrick> try opening your favorite media app and playing a song or something, then change what output plugin it is trying to use
[07:34] <FliesLikeABrick> googling the name of your chipset with "ubuntu" will likely help you find some useful information
[07:35] <anon903> where can i find azereus to install myself?
[07:35] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: ok
[07:35] <haasteem> anon903 the azureus website...
[07:35] <Jbirk> anon903:  It is in the repository
[07:35] <anon903> i've tried haasteem
[07:36] <anon903> it says its not Jbirk and i've updated
[07:36] <Jbirk> what do you mean it says it isn't me?
[07:36] <anon903> it says its not in the repository
[07:36] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: it is just so annoying, in breezy allworked fine, i upgrade... and it fails.... i have to say that the upgrade kicked me out at the very end so this may be a result of this...
[07:36] <anon903> package azureus has no installation canidate
[07:37] <Jbirk> You must not have enabled all of the repositories
[07:37] <Shadow_mil> any reason why xorg would not work on ubuntu?
[07:37] <anon903> i enabled all of them
[07:37] <Jbirk> Did you refresh?
[07:37] <anon903> yes
[07:37] <Jbirk> I know I searched for it and found it
[07:37] <chemaja> i cant believe how quiet it is in here right now
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> ah haasteem that may have something to do with it
[07:37] <chemaja> test
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem in a terminal, try doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:37] <Maje> Argh, can anyone help me figure out my 3D acceleration / figure out the DRI initialization error?
[07:37] <haasteem> anon903 the azureus website... not the repos
[07:38] <chemaja> oh, i was scrolled up :$
[07:38] <stopher> okay now maybe someone else can help me.. when i log onto ubuntu text server, it gives me ext3-fs error (device hda1)  ext3_find_entry  reading directory # 81762 offset 0.  When I use sudo apt-get install *  it says ive been locked and read-only
[07:38] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: tried that several times already, even with --force-yes, but to no result...
[07:38] <FliesLikeABrick> what happens when you do it? (don't paste here, just summarize)
[07:38] <haasteem> it seems as if it thinks that the upgrade finished properly
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> hm
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> what happened that interrupted the upgrade?
[07:39] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: it seems as if it thinks that the upgrade finished properly
[07:39] <Jbirk> It does exist
[07:39] <Jbirk> package
[07:39] <Jbirk> azureus
[07:39] <Jbirk> Maintainer Shaun Jackman
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> Jbirk azureus only exists in certain repos, I'm not sure which
[07:39] <Jbirk> section Networking (universe)
[07:39] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: it gave some error
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> multiverse maybe
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem what about apt-get install -f ?
[07:39] <Jbirk> I turned them all on and updated
[07:39] <Jbirk> it showed up
[07:40] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: i don't exactly remember what it was.... it was setting up firestarter.... error 3 i believe it said
[07:40] <anon903> its not showing up for me Jbirk
[07:40] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: 0 upgrade
[07:40] <anon903> i have all of them updated
[07:41] <FliesLikeABrick> haasteem off to the forums you go ;)
[07:41] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: :) :(
[07:41] <haasteem> anon903: i also have it in my repos
[07:41] <FliesLikeABrick> best of luck to you haasteem and have a good night.  You'll get it working eventually and you'll likely learn a ton in the process of fixing it
[07:42] <haasteem> anon903: but if you don't, go to the azureus website
[07:42] <Jbirk> Install Java
[07:42] <Jbirk> Sun Java
[07:42] <haasteem> FliesLikeABrick: thanks for the help
[07:42] <Phirax_On_Laptop> .
[07:42] <anon903> have it
[07:42] <Jbirk> I first turned on all my universes
[07:42] <Jbirk> Next, I reloaded my repositories
[07:42] <nomad111> hi everyone i need some help installing ubuntu on an external drive, i cant partition the drive because it says its busy, What do i do???
[07:42] <Jbirk> I then installed Sun Java
[07:42] <anon903> it says that it couldnt download all repository indexes
[07:42] <Jbirk> and set it as the alternative
[07:42] <Jbirk> Next Azureus
[07:43] <Jbirk> It rulns like a champ
[07:43] <Jbirk> Hum
[07:43] <Maje> anyone been able to get a Radeon 9800 Pro working 3D acceleration?
[07:43] <Jbirk> $sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <Jbirk> $sudoe apt-get upgrade
[07:43] <Jbirk> do both
[07:43] <deFrysk> -e
[07:43] <Jbirk> sudo not sudoe though
[07:43] <anon903> i know
[07:43] <Flannel> and, you dont type the $ either
[07:43] <anon903> i've done all that
[07:44] <Jbirk> Something isn't quite right then
[07:44] <anon903> i dont know what though
[07:44] <Jbirk> Are you running <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:44] <anon903> its saying some of the indexes couldnt be found
[07:44] <anon903> breezy
[07:44] <Jbirk> Are you running the latest and greatest?
[07:44] <Flannel> 6.06, theres no second dot, and theres no .1, thats only for ISOs
[07:44] <anon903> na i liked 5.10 better
[07:44] <Jbirk> sorry
[07:44] <Jbirk> Oh
[07:44] <Flannel> Jbirk: just letting you know ;)
[07:44] <Jbirk> I am doing 6.06
[07:45] <anon903> i had it on my other computer
[07:45] <Jbirk> Sorry about that, and I am glad you let me  know.  I stand corrected.  What does LTS mean?
[07:45] <Flannel> anon903: what you looking for?
[07:45] <anon903> so something with this one isnt quite right
[07:45] <anon903> azureus
[07:45] <judicata> Long Term Support
[07:45] <Phirax_On_Laptop> hi, I'm having a problem, which appears to be an issue with ubuntu and my ati video card, at first i found i couldn't startx on the installer.. the monitor would just loose signal as soon as x initiated, i got round that by using the tesxt install and installing the ati fglrx drivers, now i can load x, but i can't shutdown/reboot/switch to console, my machine looses display and appears to lockup, any ideas?
[07:45] <anon903> what release of it do i download from the site haasteem ?
[07:46] <Flannel> anon903: azureus isn't in breezy. however...
[07:46] <Flannel> !tell anon903 about azureus
[07:46] <anon903> thats why then
[07:46] <thebishop> Would anyone like it  if Network Manager had an Internet Connection Sharing dialog?
[07:46] <anon903> this laptop is running 6.06
[07:46] <anon903> my desktop is running 5.10
[07:46] <judicata> Phirax: which ATI card do you have?
[07:46] <Flannel> You can still install it on 5.10, see the link ubotu sent you
[07:46] <buddhalover>  I can't open Synaptic. Can't sudo reboot from Terminal. Had to Force Quit Add/Remove. It's going nuts. I'm going nuts. Help anyone?
[07:47] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: Radeon x850xt
[07:48] <stopher> when i log onto ubuntu text server, it gives me ext3-fs error (device hda1)  ext3_find_entry  reading directory # 81762 offset 0.  When I use sudo apt-get install *  it says ive been locked and read-only
[07:48] <Phirax_On_Laptop> jrib: i'm previously a redhat/fedora user, never had this problem, just thought i'd give ubuntu a whril
[07:48] <remu> hey guys
[07:49] <judicata> phirax: did you tinker with fglrx-controls?
[07:49] <anon903> when i try the wget method for azureus i get a 404
[07:49] <qazqaz70> hello all
[07:50] <anon903> wget http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_all.deb
[07:50] <anon903> is that still good?
[07:50] <buddhalover> Synaptic won't even load.
[07:50] <remu> im a linux virgin for the most part, but i am very much interested in switching to it...however, before i do, i did have some concerns, such as the fact that im running a compaq v3010ca laptop with a broadcom wireless card, the live cd doesnt recognize it, is there someway to get this wireless card to work...that is the most major concern of mine
[07:50] <qazqaz70> i want help ... can anyone help me ?
[07:50] <Jhair> !debian
[07:50] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[07:51] <Jhair> anon903: that's not an ubuntu package. Go to #debian for help
[07:51] <remu> switching to ubuntu even
[07:51] <Phirax_On_Laptop> judicata: i don't seem to have that installed
[07:51] <anon903> why is it in the ubuntu.com help then?
[07:51] <qazqaz70> i want help ... i want know how can i use other language same windows ? i mean in one user
[07:52] <Phirax_On_Laptop> judicata: i've only got, fgl_glxgears, fglrxinfo, fglrx_xgamma
[07:52] <Jhair> anon903: I don't know. The URL you are trying is not an ubuntu package.
[07:52] <anon903> alright thanks Jhair
[07:52] <qazqaz70>  i want help ... i want know how can i use other language same windows ? i mean in one user
[07:52] <anon903> i'm just gonna get it off the azureus site and try that way
[07:53] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I see all packages that are installed?
[07:53] <anon903> can i make it so i can save files from my ubuntu partition to my windows?
[07:53] <Flannel> anon903: not safely
[07:54] <anon903> what are the dangers?
[07:54] <Flannel> anon903: well, you can save in a fat partition, but linux can't safely write NTFS yet
[07:54] <anon903> damn
[07:54] <anon903> its in ntfs
[07:54] <anon903> isnt linux in ntfs?
[07:54] <qazqaz70> i mean how can i use two language same time ?
[07:55] <qazqaz70> please help me
[07:55] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I see all packages that are installed?
[07:55] <FirstStrike> anon903: check out ntfs-3g
[07:55] <anon903> are you in synaptic fdsd ?
[07:55] <qazqaz70> i want use two language same time
[07:55] <Phirax_On_Laptop> Flannel: yeah it would be nice is MS released enough info so it can be done safely
[07:55] <FirstStrike> they've tested it out writing and deleting files to NTFS partitions millions of times with it
[07:55] <judicata> anon: no.  You can create a new partition in Fat32, and both windows and linux can read and write to it.
[07:55] <FirstStrike> and no issues so far
[07:56] <remu> can some one help me out? im wondering about drivers for my broadcom wireless card
[07:56] <fdsd> anon903, command line
[07:56] <strotfest> remu, my broadcom-based wi-fi card (belkin 54g, bcm4318) required that i use ndiswrapper to get it to work in dapper
[07:57] <strotfest> remu, some broadcom cards work in dapper out of the box with an open source module (bcm43xx) but not all
[07:57] <strotfest> remu, there's a thread on the forums about it, let me see if i can dig it up for you
[07:57] <remu> can i use that ndiswrapper with the livecd, so i can test to see if itll actually work with ubuntu and my wireless card, cause if not....well, my switching to ubuntu depends on the wireless card primarily....that and my ipod
[07:57] <haasteem> anon903: the most recent one i guess.... i run <IP_ADDRESS> without a problem and i didn't install it from the repos
[07:57] <anon903> alright its downloaded
[07:58] <strotfest> remu, unless you have your heart set on using itunes you shouldn't have much trouble with the ipod i think...banshee, amarok, and a few other players seem to handle it alright, though i haven't tested it out much myself
[07:58] <anon903> its tar xfz isnt it
[07:58] <fdsd> what does ubuntu read when it starts up? rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d rc5.d rc6.d or rcS.d?
[07:58] <anon903> to open .tar.bz2 ?
[07:58] <fdsd> jxvf
[07:58] <remu> i dont have a problem with using otherstuff, as long as they will handle my play count, and my ratings
[07:59] <strotfest> remu, i'm pretty sure amarok will handle that stuff fine...it's pretty loaded
[07:59] <remu> cool cool
[08:00] <remu> now, are there skins and themes available for ubuntu, i tried doing a few google searches for it, to no avail
[08:00] <weirdo> i have a problem with the desktop iso
[08:00] <weirdo> i stuck it in my laptop drive and tried the first option
[08:00] <fdsd> what does ubuntu read when it starts up? rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d rc5.d rc6.d or rcS.d?
[08:00] <strotfest> remu, i don't know if you can get your wireless working via ndiswrapper while in a livecd session...looks doubtful
[08:00] <remu> darn it
[08:00] <strotfest> remu, http://art.gnome.org has some stuff
[08:00] <weirdo> and it stops at Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[08:01] <richee> hey folks I want the man page for all the C function like strcpy
[08:01] <remu> i dont mind installing ubuntu...aslong as ndiswrapper works with my broadcom
[08:01] <richee> which package do I need to install ?
[08:01] <dsas> remu: also see art.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <thebishop> remu: ndiswrapper works with my 4318
[08:01] <thebishop> works perfectly
[08:01] <remu> i dont know the exact model number, cause its built into my laptop, and i havent been able to find the model number for it
[08:01] <fdsd> Hey Guys, what does ubuntu read when it starts up? rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d rc5.d rc6.d or rcS.d?
[08:01] <thebishop> remu,  what's your laptop model #?
[08:01] <dsas> fdsd: it goes up to rc2.d
[08:01] <remu> compaq v3010ca
[08:01] <richee> anyone can help ?
[08:02] <thebishop> remu, you currently running windows?
[08:02] <fdsd> dsas, so by default it only reads rc2.d?
[08:02] <remu> yup yup
[08:02] <anon903> haasteem, do you remember how to install azureus of the top of your head?
[08:02] <remu> currently on xp
[08:02] <thebishop> remu, open your device manager
[08:02] <remu> done
[08:02] <thebishop> select your wireless nic
[08:03] <remu> done
[08:03] <thebishop> double click it
[08:03] <remu> done
[08:03] <strotfest> remu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 i believe this is the thread i used to get mine working
[08:03] <thebishop> Driver Details
[08:04] <remu> mmk
[08:04] <remu> done
[08:04] <remu> thanks strotfest
[08:04] <strotfest> anytime :D
[08:04] <thebishop> there's going to be a line that says "Vendor ID" or "Device ID"
[08:04] <thebishop> i'm looking to find exactly where it is
[08:04] <haasteem> anon903: good question... it's been a while...
[08:04] <weirdo> anyone know whats wrong with my installation?
[08:04] <anon903> i have the .tar.bz2 package
[08:05] <remu> thebishop: no man, its not in driver details
[08:05] <dsas> fdsd: It runs /etc/rcS.d then /etc/rc2/d I think
[08:05] <remu> in details there is driver instance id
[08:05] <haasteem> anon903: so you unpack it...
[08:05] <haasteem> anon903: do you have java installed?
[08:05] <thebishop> remu, gimmie a sec...
[08:05] <anon903> yea
[08:05] <remu> ok
[08:05] <spring> hi i installed VMWare Server on kubuntu successfully, now where can i get virtual machine for winXP?? i googed to no avail
[08:06] <anon903> sorry i'm use to dpkg
[08:06] <dsas> spring: You have to create one yourself. Microsoft tend to not give away machine images of windows :)
[08:06] <Jbirk> What do I use to burn a CD from Ubuntu?
[08:06] <Jbirk> and to rip it?
[08:06] <haasteem> anon903: that's ok... whenever i can i use synaptic
[08:06] <spring> also i can't seem to find VMware-mui-*.tar.gz
[08:07] <haasteem> anon903: but you must have java installed... otherwise azureus won't run
[08:07] <anon903> acidrip works pretty well Jbirk
[08:07] <Maje> alright, can someone please help me out here, it seems i'm missing the DRI module
[08:07] <anon903> i have it
[08:07] <dsas> Jbirk: For music? rip using soundjuicer burn using rhythmbox
[08:07] <thebishop> remu, its the Details tab
[08:07] <thebishop> double click the wifi
[08:07] <foxjwill> Hi. For some reason, the 'info' command won't work anymore. the output is as follows:
[08:07] <foxjwill> info: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:07] <spring> greaaat there must be someone who had created it
[08:07] <tyler_d> how do I resume torrents using BitTorrent
[08:07] <spring> jbirk: use kb3, real easy
[08:07] <thebishop> remu, "Device Instance ID"
[08:08] <remu> PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4311&SUBSYS_1363103C&REV_01\4&1D43C852&0&0010
[08:08] <remu> thats what it says under device instance id
[08:08] <strotfest> ah, 4311 i would think
[08:08] <thebishop> you have the Broadcom 4311
[08:08] <remu> yea....
[08:08] <remu> interesting
[08:08] <thebishop> i think that will actually work with the open source driver, with the firmware
[08:08] <snoops> how can I lock a package version from cli not using synaptic?
[08:08] <thebishop> its up to you
[08:09] <thebishop> you could follow a fwcutter tutorial
[08:09] <remu> how is that?
[08:09] <thebishop> or you could use Ndiswrapper
[08:09] <remu> whats the best/easiest/best way of doing things
[08:09] <remu> lol, like, what will get me the best performance
[08:09] <Jbirk> If I throw my memory stick in the trash, will it dismount?
[08:09] <Jbirk> Or will it delete all the stuff on it?
[08:09] <thebishop> remu,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[08:09] <remu> i can kill this machine....im still in the 14 day return policy....plus i work at best buy where i bought this, lol
[08:10] <thebishop> remu, do that first, if that doesn't work, then ndiswrapper
[08:10] <remu> if that works, ill know it via the livecd?
[08:10] <remu> or only through actually installing it
[08:10] <thebishop> remu,  you haven't done livecd yet?
[08:10] <thebishop> remu,  there's a decent shot it'll work out of the box
[08:10] <remu> i have the livecd sitting next to me
[08:10] <remu> no it didnt
[08:11] <remu> i tried
[08:11] <thebishop> ok
[08:11] <remu> i even installed it, but then put windows back
[08:11] <remu> but if i do the tutorial thing ur showing me, it should work with the live cd even?
[08:11] <thebishop> well, the bcm43xx driver module needs the firmware, which ubuntu doesn't ship for legal reasons
[08:11] <snoops> anyone? locking package versions in apt without using synaptic?
[08:11] <remu> aha, fair enough
[08:12] <thebishop> remu, i think you could get it working with the live cd, but it would take a few command line commands
[08:12] <bruenig> "command line commands"
[08:12] <fdsd> Hey guys, How do I see all installed Applications via the command line?
[08:12] <remu> interesting
[08:12] <Jhair> fdsd: dpkg -l
[08:13] <remu> the guide u sent me, im skiming over it as we speak...do i do that while running ubuntu....im guessing thats the case
[08:13] <thebishop> remu, once you have the firmware file, you could put it on a thumbdrive and load it when the live cd starts up
[08:13] <thebishop> remu, yep
[08:13] <afflux> morgen...
[08:13] <remu> wonderful
[08:13] <SquareGuy> fdsd, can try aptitude
[08:13] <remu> or i could just get it via my ethernet when im on the live cd
[08:14] <remu> Okay so you have a wireless card that shows up in ubuntu but doesnt connect to any wireless network?
[08:14] <remu> The reason the card shows up but doesnt work is because ubuntu is only distributed with its driver (so it can recognize it) not with its firmware (so it can USE it) for legal reasons.
[08:14] <remu> my card doesnt even show up tho
[08:14] <thebishop> remu, gimmie a sec, i'll get you the firmware file
[08:14] <spring> hi VMware ESX Server 1.5.2 Patch 5 is incompatible for VMWare server 1.0, right???
[08:15] <thebishop> remu, your card doesn't show up at all?
[08:15] <bruenig> just looking at the numbers seems like it would be
[08:15] <remu> no, it doesnt show up at all
[08:16] <remu> the guide u sent me ive looked at before, but when i got to that line, i didnt go further
[08:16] <remu> cause mine doesnt even show up
[08:16] <thebishop> remu, type this into a command-line: lspci | Broadcom
[08:16] <thebishop> er
[08:16] <remu> umm....hold on
[08:16] <thebishop> remu, type this into a command-line: lspci | grep Broadcom
[08:16] <remu> i can pop the livecd in my system, and come back on here running the live cd ubuntu....is there an irc program in there?
[08:17] <Maje> alright, can someone please help me out here, it seems i'm missing the DRI module
[08:17] <bruenig> remu, gaim
[08:17] <remu> on the livecd?
[08:17] <remu> gaim....okay...ill be back in a few then bishop
[08:17] <Flannel> remu: irssi as well
[08:17] <remu> alrighty, well ill be right back bishop
[08:17] <thebishop> k
[08:20] <Volvo> is there an internal firewall included with ubuntu 6.04 LTS ?
[08:20] <Jbirk> IPTABLES
[08:20] <Jbirk> Built into the Linux Kernel
[08:20] <Jbirk> You will need something like Shorewall to configure it unless you are ultra pro at config files
[08:21] <Volvo> well right now I am using Firestarter for the purpose
[08:21] <Volvo> but yes will look into IPTables
[08:22] <Volvo> any specific website to teach basics for IPTABLES i m new to this
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:22] <Volvo> ok thanks
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: you probably want firestarter
[08:23] <Volvo> i have firestarter, installed it last night
[08:23] <Volvo> along antivirus, aegis scanner but i cann't find aegis
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> for antivirus, try clamav
[08:24] <Madpilot> Volvo, Ubuntu doesn't really need an antivirus
[08:24] <BenB__> Hello, does anyone have an idea where I could get warty-4.10.iso ?
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> try the ubuntu mirrors, but you know warty is no longer supported, right?
[08:24] <Volvo> well madpilot >> sure but i just wanted to learn all this
[08:25] <BenB__> why isn't it?
[08:25] <BenB__> can't I run iso files from it?
[08:25] <Flannel> BenB__: it's more than 18 months old
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> why don't you use dapper?
[08:25] <Madpilot> BenB__, because it's the oldest version of Ubuntu
[08:25] <BenB__> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html
[08:25] <Volvo> fyrestrtr i m using Drappy
[08:25] <BenB__> here's what I'm trying to do
[08:25] <Flannel> BenB__: Ubuntu releases are supported for 18 months (except LTS ones)
[08:25] <BenB__> scroll to the last post
[08:26] <Flannel> BenB__: you want to install over a network?
[08:26] <BenB__> nope
[08:26] <BenB__> just a PC
[08:26] <Flannel> Just, pop the CD in
[08:26] <BenB__> I just said I can't
[08:27] <BenB__> Oh I didn't press enter
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: what's the issue then? Just download the dapper iso image, burn it, and boot your machine from it.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: why not?
[08:27] <Flannel> BenB__: so, you want to do a netinstall then, right?
[08:27] <BenB__> because my CD drive is broken :p
[08:27] <BenB__> I can't do that aswell
[08:27] <BenB__> I tried, but this damn WLAN adapter
[08:27] <Flannel> BenB__: that's what this page is suggesting
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: what good is a warty iso to you then?
[08:27] <Jbirk> I need some help with shorewall.  Does anyoen know a good tutorial?
[08:27] <BenB__> then I can load the ISO from HD
[08:27] <Flannel> BenB__: You don't need warty, you can install with any version, here's a good url of various install methods
[08:28] <BenB__> and run it
[08:28] <Flannel> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:28] <Jbirk> I would also like to make a partition image of my Ubuntu comp any ideas what program?  Perhaps  partimage?
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Jbirk: the shorewall website has very nice tutorials.
[08:28] <Flannel> BenB__: that'll cover all your bases, you should be able to get something to work.  And, you don't need warty, Dapper should work just as well (get the alternate ISO)
[08:28] <BenB__> I have no idea what Dapper is (:
[08:29] <Jbirk> I just want to firewall to Internet traffic
[08:29] <Greenbox> Hi, I'm having problems with my sound on an Intel ICH chipset with the snd-intel8x0 alsa driver
[08:29] <Volvo> which software you guys use for backup, i want to backup everything present on this h.d.d specifically under ubuntu and then write it on dvd
[08:29] <BenB__> I basically can't use neither CD or Floppy
[08:29] <Flannel> BenB__: dapper is the newest version, released last june.  Warty was released in October of 04 (4.10)
[08:29] <remu> thebishop: im back, and running off of the ubuntu livecd
[08:29] <Greenbox> a live CD can use it fine, but when alsa probes for the PCI card it's undetected
[08:29] <BenB__> that means the only choice is from HD
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: I just use k3b
[08:29] <Volvo> is it good ?
[08:29] <Flannel> BenB__: read that page, you'll find something.
[08:29] <thebishop> remu, ok
[08:29] <BenB__> alright
[08:29] <thebishop> remu, lspci | grep Broadcom
[08:29] <remu> in the terminal, correct?
[08:30] <Volvo> is it only for KDE or supports GNOME as well
[08:30] <Madpilot> Volvo, if you're running Ubuntu, Nautilus (the file manager) can burn CDs & DVDs nicely. No need to install k3b
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: supports both.
[08:30] <BenB__> by the way, is 248MB RAM enough to install Ubuntu?
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: just pop in a blank dvd.
[08:30] <Volvo> cool
[08:30] <Jbirk> How do you have Nautilus burn a CD?
[08:30] <Awesome-o2000> I just wanted to thank you guys. This is the first time i've used a precompiled distro and havent had any major problems
[08:30] <thebishop> remu, yeah in the terminal
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Jbirk: just insert a blank cd or dvd.
[08:30] <Madpilot> Jbirk, stick a blank CD in, you should get a popup
[08:30] <Jbirk> let me find one
[08:30] <BenB__> actually even less say 230MB RAM
[08:31] <Awesome-o2000> I would like to know if theres a way to keep dhcp from adding the "search" line to my /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:31] <Carmen-> how do i mount things thru samba?
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: to 'install' it, yes. To use it? Depends on what you use it for.
[08:31] <remu> Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[08:31] <ydong> BenB__: should be no problem
[08:31] <remu> thats what it said
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> Carmen-: smbmount
[08:31] <BenB__> alright thanks
[08:31] <Jbirk> that will mount a windows partition on samba
[08:31] <Jbirk> wow
[08:31] <Jbirk> I can make an audio cd
[08:32] <thebishop> remu: ok
[08:32] <thebishop> remu, any numbers?
[08:32] <remu> 0000:01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[08:32] <remu> thats all of it
[08:32] <thebishop> ok good
[08:32] <remu> awsome
[08:32] <Awesome-o2000> I was under the impression that the "search" line of my /etc/resolv.conf was supposed to have my "fully resolved domain name" in it, which behind my linksys says wan and when hooked directly to the modem gives me 12-218-146-224.client.mchsi.com
[08:33] <Carmen-> Hey i mounted my Ubuntu installation and i wanna BackUP it thru samba
[08:33] <thebishop> remu, but you're saying in Networking, there's no device
[08:33] <thebishop> ?
[08:33] <Carmen-> how is it possible to do?
[08:33] <remu> yep
[08:33] <Awesome-o2000> i would really appreciate a clue here because whenever i have a URL that doesnt connect it keeps bouncing the signal back at me
[08:33] <remu> in networking, it shows ethernet connection, and modem connection
[08:33] <thebishop> remu, lsmod | grep bcm
[08:33] <remu> and thats it
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: no, the search line is the domain that your dhcp will search for unresolved host names. So if your search is 'foo.com' -- then if you type hello, it will search for hello.foo.com
[08:34] <remu> it just went to a blank line after that command
[08:34] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, hmph - is there a way I can make that just plain old .com
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: you don't want to do that.
[08:34] <thebishop> remu, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I'd prefer to just remove that search altogether then, if possible
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: instead, use the gnome networking applet, remove the domain from the search list.
[08:35] <remu> another blank line after that
[08:35] <Jbirk> Thanks guys
[08:35] <thebishop> remu, now open Networking
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, how do I keep it from being added whenever i reboot?
[08:35] <Jbirk> I am more impressed with Ubuntu the more I use it
[08:35] <Jbirk> It is the first distro that actually works for me perfectly
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, also im not too hot on using the GUI tools although I like them
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: you need to fiddle with dhcp for that.
[08:35] <Jbirk> Each time I think somethign is going to be challenging, something just works
[08:35] <Jbirk> like burning CDS
[08:35] <Jbirk> I just burned a CD no problem
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf <-- replace vi with whatever editor you like.
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, yeah I get that - any idea what manual I should be reading to figure that out?
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: I think this is something to do with your dhcp server, not the client.
[08:36] <remu> still no wireless card under connections
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> HMMM thats REALLY odd - its my linksys
[08:36] <Madpilot> Jbirk, once you get used to how easy CD/DVD burning is in Ubuntu, you'll swear even more about how hard it is in other OSes :)
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> I wonder how I can turn that off
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: just set your machine to have a static ip.
[08:37] <buddhalover> I have lost the ability to reboot with the sudo reboot command on Terminal. I get this message.
[08:37] <buddhalover> sudo: unable to lookup gregor-desktop via gethostbyname()
[08:37] <Awesome-o2000> static via dhcp :D
[08:37] <Jbirk> Yes, I know
[08:37] <Jbirk> Even in Widnows it is harder
[08:37] <thebishop> remu, lsmod | grep bcm
[08:37] <Awesome-o2000> besides thats the local dns server
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: just pick an ip address outside of the dhcp pool
[08:37] <Jbirk> Heck with XP if you burn a CD, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries to get it to start to burn
[08:37] <BenB__> Flannel each installation method there requires either a removable device or an internet connection
[08:37] <Madpilot> Jbirk, XP makes it stupidly hard to burn stuff... XP even makes it hard to mount a USB thumbdrive, FFS... :|
[08:37] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, bbiab - fiddling, thank you
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: if linksys assigns you <IP_ADDRESS> - 150, set your machine to be either <IP_ADDRESS>, or <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:38] <Jbirk> You just plugin a usb thubdrive and it mounts
[08:38] <nismos> damn
[08:38] <BenB__> and I found no information about Dapper
[08:38] <Jbirk> Don't know what FFS is though
[08:38] <remu> bcm43xx               127244  0
[08:38] <remu> ieee80211softmac       32640  1 bcm43xx
[08:38] <remu> ieee80211              39240  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[08:38] <Jbirk> Probably an unsuported xp filesystem
[08:38] <Flannel> BenB__: no, there are some that don't.   Can anyone help me in private? :)
[08:40] <Madpilot> nismos, ouch...
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, cd /etc/modprobe.d
[08:40] <Flannel> BenB__: what do you have on the computer currently?
[08:40] <DBO> Madpilot, have him fsck
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, vim aliases
[08:40] <BenB__> the ISO file
[08:40] <Jbirk> Why is it the Rhythmbox Music Player won't play MP3 files?
[08:40] <Awesome-o2000> you gotta be kidding me
[08:40] <Awesome-o2000> the damn dhcp server STILL puts that in
[08:40] <nismos> M$ DOES recover better after power failure
[08:40] <Flannel> BenB__: No current OS?
[08:40] <BenB__> Windows XP
[08:40] <remu> okay
[08:40] <Killeroid> buddhalover: ask what you want. the best guy to help you will do so
[08:40] <remu> done that bishp
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, not vim
[08:40] <BenB__> got it with the HD
[08:40] <BenB__> lol
[08:40] <thebishop> remu, type ZZ in vim to get out
[08:40] <Madpilot> nismos, like DBO said, can you start Ubuntu in recovery console & run fsck?
[08:40] <Jbirk> 23:40:32) nismos: M$ DOES recover better after power failure?
[08:41] <Jbirk> Linux recovers fine
[08:41] <strotfest> Jbirk, restricted codec
[08:41] <thebishop> remu, sudo gedit aliases
[08:41] <Flannel> BenB__: did you see this page from that page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[08:41] <nismos> ah yeah right
[08:41] <Flannel> gksudo gedit
[08:41] <nismos> thank u c ya in a minute
[08:41] <BenB__> yes
[08:41] <buddhalover> Killeroid: I seem to have lost the ability to reboot through Terminal using 'sudo reboot' command.
[08:41] <strotfest> Jbirk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats i think
[08:41] <Jbirk> How do I fix it, strotfest?
[08:41] <BenB__> I've read bits from it
[08:41] <Jbirk> Oh
[08:41] <strotfest> pretty simple if you follow that
[08:41] <Jbirk> It works in VLC
[08:41] <nismos> Linux melts my heart
[08:41] <snoops> nismos they've had so much failure in the past, you'd expect them to be good at it :)
[08:41] <BenB__> and it doesn't seem to be do-able
[08:41] <strotfest> (nod) you can get it working in rhythmbox if you grab the gstreamer-ugly plugins
[08:41] <buddhalover> sudo: unable to lookup gregor-desktop via gethostbyname()
[08:41] <BenB__> The netboot approach
[08:42] <buddhalover> i get this error.
[08:42] <BenB__> that requires an internet connection
[08:42] <BenB__> The CD approach
[08:42] <BenB__> that requires a CD
[08:42] <Flannel> BenB__: also, this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[08:42] <BenB__> and that's the end of the file really
[08:42] <BenB__> no floppy drive
[08:42] <thebishop> remu, you there?
[08:42] <nismos> u won't believe it but i get arousal when I'm working under Linux
[08:42] <nismos> c ya guys
[08:42] <Carmen-> Hey i mounted my Ubuntu installation and i wanna BackUP it thru samba
[08:42] <snoops> must be uncomfortable nismos
[08:43] <BenB__> I need to run it solely from HD
[08:43] <Flannel> BenB__: no, that floppy thing is just to get a basic linux system running, once you do that, you can mount your ISO as a CDrom, and work from there.  read the pages, not just the headings
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: you have any network connection?
[08:43] <Warbo> !info gnome
[08:43] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[08:43] <BenB__> nope
[08:43] <HighPitchEric> <---- Awesome-o2000
[08:43] <thebishop> Carmen: you'll probably want to mount a samba share, and create an image of your Ubuntu partition with dd
[08:43] <BenB__> well yes I do but when you boot that PC there's no connection
[08:43] <BenB__> you need a driver for it
[08:43] <BenB__> it's a WLan adapter
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: just a computer with a hard disk, no floppy, no cdrom?
[08:43] <Flannel> BenB__: and, that first page (the windows one) shows you how to set up that basic linux system, which you can then use in conjunction with the second page
[08:44] <BenB__> yes exactly fyrestrtr
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: does it have usb?
[08:44] <BenB__> with GRUB?
[08:44] <BenB__> yes it has
[08:44] <thebishop> would anyone here like NetworkManager to have an Internet Connection Sharing dialog?
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: it only has the wireless network card, no wired card?
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: install firestarter
[08:44] <Jbirk> how do I install totem?
[08:44] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, i did, it didn't work too well for me
[08:44] <BenB__> I can wire it but I got no cables, heh
[08:45] <Jhair> Jbirk: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[08:45] <HighPitchEric> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name, netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope <---- which one of htese options gives me that stupid search line???
[08:45] <BenB__> I'm kinda just stuck with HDs
[08:45] <remu> yea, im in gedit aliases
[08:45] <thebishop> remu, ok
[08:45] <BenB__> and Flannel yeah you mean I should use GRUB?
[08:45] <BenB__> to load the kernel
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> HighPitchEric: domain-name
[08:45] <thebishop> remu, run a quick search for bcm
[08:45] <thebishop> "bcm
[08:45] <HighPitchEric> nice
[08:45] <thebishop> "bcm"
[08:46] <remu> it says "phrase not found"
[08:46] <thebishop> ok
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: take the hard disk out, put it in another machine. Boot that machine with the alternate install cd, install just the 'server' packages, put the hard disk back in the machine, and go from there.
[08:47] <BenB__> can't I just use Dapper or something like that?
[08:48] <HighPitchEric> fyrestrtr, I think that did it - thank you for your help and patience
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> dapper is just a name for the current version of ubuntu.
[08:48] <Madpilot> BenB__, yes, but get the Dapper alternate install CD... not the 'desktop' ISO
[08:48] <BenB__> oh ok
[08:49] <BenB__> well I tried using GRUB to run the kernel and initrd from the ISO and it didn't go well :p
[08:49] <Volvo> ok i just made a new folder, installed samba for ubuntu, had set its share properties like share name and use SMB
[08:49] <remu> thebishop: what would you like me to try doing next?
[08:49] <Volvo> but i cannot access it from my windows box
[08:49] <B4zzA> Volvo,
[08:49] <DanaG> After dd'ing my Dapper to my external drive.
[08:49] <B4zzA> have you set the samba user password
[08:49] <BenB__> maybe I'll just steal a CD-drive
[08:49] <DanaG> Aargh, USB 2.0 is slow as hell.
[08:49] <DanaG> Oh, and usb-storage was taking around 25% CPU (one core -- was using SuSE rescue system, non-smp kernel)
[08:49] <BenB__> :p
[08:50] <BenB__> from my brother
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> BenB__: go buy a cdrom they are only $10
[08:50] <B4zzA> smbpasswd <user> <new password>
[08:50] <thebishop> remu, in aliases, add a line "alias eth1 bcm43xx"
[08:50] <Volvo> ok
[08:50] <Volvo> thanks
[08:50] <Madpilot> BenB__, a basic CD reader is dirt cheap
[08:50] <remu> does it matter where?
[08:50] <BenB__> I know but it's saturday now and no shops are open
[08:51] <BenB__> I've tried to install Ubuntu since yesterday
[08:51] <thebishop> remu, not really, this is a livecd afterall
[08:51] <remu> oh okay
[08:51] <BenB__> I had this CDDrive but when I tried to use the debian installer it gave me some weird errors and it was very very slow
[08:51] <remu> but if i did install it, would it matter, cause im writing all of these steps down
[08:52] <thebishop> i normally add to beginning or end, but it doesn't really matter
[08:52] <remu> okay, i added it, just save and exit now then?
[08:53] <thebishop> remu, yep
[08:53] <DanaG> Oh, with older drives, it's a good idea to write the disk at a low speed.
[08:53] <thebishop> remu, try iwconfig
[08:53] <thebishop> probably won't show anything
[08:53] <DanaG> Avoid CDRWs -- for me they're slow and they don't erase well.
[08:53] <Flannel> It's always a good idea to write at slow speeds.  Old or new drives.  Newer drives especially
[08:53] <remu> iwconfig in the terminal
[08:53] <thebishop> yeah
[08:53] <DanaG> new writer, old reader.
[08:54] <DanaG> I wish I could boot from Firewire -- my external DVDRW is much faster at READING than my internal CDRW (notebook.)
[08:54] <Volvo> B4zza i tried to issue the command but it says you are not root, i tried su smbpasswd user passwd it said authentication failure
[08:54] <remu> says "no wireless extensions" for "lo" "eth0" and "sit0"
[08:54] <thebishop> remu, as expected
[08:54] <thebishop> now
[08:54] <DanaG> s/CDRW/CDRW+DVDROM/
[08:55] <thebishop> sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[08:55] <thebishop> then
[08:55] <thebishop> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:55] <Volvo> i m the only user of this box, doens't that means i should have the su rights ?
[08:55] <PyroManiak> Is there a known problem with the VNC server built into ubunut?
[08:55] <Flannel> Volvo: except we use sudo, yeah.
[08:55] <Madpilot> Volvo, Ubuntu is set up to use sudo
[08:55] <PyroManiak> ubuntu*
[08:55] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Volvo about sudo
[08:55] <Volvo> thanks
[08:55] <DanaG> I wish Ubuntu would somehow make su call sudo -i
[08:56] <thebishop> Volvo, if you need root acces, you can do sudo -s
[08:56] <Volvo> ok thanks
[08:56] <Jbirk> How do I install Skype?
[08:56] <DanaG> What does -s do?
[08:56] <remu> blank line after modprobe
[08:56] <Flannel> !tell Jbirk about skype
[08:56] <thebishop> Volvo, or sudo passwd and make a root password (not recommended)
[08:56] <buddhalover> sudo no longer works for me
[08:56] <DanaG> !sudoers
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <buddhalover> can someone help me with this.
[08:56] <Madpilot> buddhalover, how did you break it?
[08:56] <Jbirk> why is that not recomended, thebishop?
[08:56] <thebishop> DanaG, sudo -s keeps you as root after the first command
[08:56] <Jbirk> What is wrong with having a root password?
[08:56] <markedwards> can someone help me figure out why, even though hostname returns mini.antsclimbtree.com mail sent from the command line with mailx is from flpi102.sbcis.sbc.com?
[08:57] <DanaG> It's a security risk -- it's a well-known username.
[08:57] <thebishop> Jbirk, supposedly more secure
[08:57] <Madpilot> Jbirk, there's no need for one
[08:57] <Flannel> !tell Jbirk about sudo
[08:57] <Flannel> Jbirk: that page explains it
[08:57] <B4zzA> Volvo, you need to use sudo
[08:57] <Jbirk> I know about sudo
[08:57] <B4zzA> sudo <command>
[08:57] <Jbirk> sudo command
[08:57] <DanaG> How can I make Thunderbird receive "system mail"?
[08:57] <Jbirk> asks for a password
[08:57] <Flannel> Jbirk: right, but that page Explains reasons
[08:57] <Jbirk> then executes with root uid 0 privledges
[08:57] <Jbirk> But without setting root password, anyone can sudo!
[08:57] <Jbirk> i.e.
[08:57] <Flannel> Jbirk: no...
[08:57] <remu> thebishop: there is a blank line after "modprobe", and no changes in networking
[08:57] <Jbirk> sudo command asks for password
[08:58] <thebishop> remu, damn.
[08:58] <thebishop> remu, try iwconfig again for th hell of it
[08:58] <Jbirk> without setting root passwd, sudo doesn't ask for password
[08:58] <Flannel> Jbirk: it asks for the user password.  If they're setup as a sudoer, then they can sudo, otherwise, they cant
[08:58] <Flannel> Jbirk: what?  No.
[08:58] <Madpilot> Jbirk, no, only the first user has sudo privs by default
[08:58] <remu> same as before man
[08:58] <B4zzA> Jbirk, you enter your own passbe
[08:58] <B4zzA> *password
[08:58] <thebishop> remu, figures...
[08:58] <Jbirk> Why does only the first user have sudo?
[08:58] <Jbirk> Is the first user a member of a group?
[08:58] <Jbirk> i.e. wheel?
[08:58] <buddhalover> when i attempt to sudo reboot this error comes up. Synaptic no longer runs as well.
[08:58] <buddhalover> sudo: unable to lookup gregor-desktop via gethostbyname()
[08:58] <buddhalover> i was told in another channel to do this
[08:58] <buddhalover> echo "<IP_ADDRESS> <gregor-desktop>" >> /etc/hosts
[08:58] <buddhalover> but it returns permission denied
[08:58] <Madpilot> Jbirk, because someone has to?
[08:59] <Madpilot> buddhalover, do NOT paste like that, thanks...
[08:59] <thebishop> remu, dmesg | grep bcm
[08:59] <Flannel> buddhalover: you need to tweak your hosts file, to include your local hostname
[08:59] <Madpilot> buddhalover, try sticking sudo in front of that echo command
[08:59] <Flannel> buddhalover: boot into recovery console (at the grub menu) and you should be able to fix it
[08:59] <buddhalover> Madpilot: tried that.
[09:00] <DanaG> Is it okay to paste things that are just 4 lines?
[09:00] <remu> bcm43xx               127244  0
[09:00] <remu> ieee80211softmac       32640  1 bcm43xx
[09:00] <remu> ieee80211              39240  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[09:00] <buddhalover> Flannel: is recovery console the same as failsafe terminal?
[09:00] <Madpilot> DanaG, pastebin is best
[09:00] <Madpilot> !paste
[09:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:00] <remu> no, sorry, wrong thing
[09:00] <remu> [  554.955693]  bcm43xx driver
[09:00] <remu> [ 1193.682017]  bcm43xx driver
[09:00] <Flannel> buddhalover: right, failsafe terminal.  Whatever, it'll be a root shell, you can fix your hosts file
[09:00] <DanaG> Or, how about merging lines with || these || thingies || as || separators
[09:00] <remu> thats what comes up after dmesg
[09:00] <thebishop> remu, hmm
[09:00] <buddhalover> Flannel : I tried that also.. from failsafe terminal but I get the same error messages.
[09:01] <thebishop> remu, that's odd that it finds your card, but doesn't make a dev item for it
[09:01] <DanaG> How do you hold a scroll in irssi?
[09:01] <buddhalover> Madpilot: Thank you for your suggestion. :)
[09:01] <Flannel> buddhalover: you don't need to sudo from failsafe
[09:01] <DanaG> oh, pgup instead of shift-pgup.
[09:02] <buddhalover> tried echo from failsafe: still permission denied
[09:02] <Warbo> !info brightside
[09:02] <ubotu> brightside: Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 924 kB
[09:02] <Flannel> buddhalover: is this the failsafe from GDM? or from grub?
[09:02] <PyroManiak> VNC server hard locks my system... any idea's?
[09:02] <buddhalover> GDM
[09:03] <Flannel> buddhalover: right.  You need to reboot, and select the rescue mode from the grub menu
[09:03] <DanaG> Get your grubby hands off my GRUB!
[09:03] <DanaG> Right?
[09:03] <PyroManiak> buddhalover: was that to me?
[09:03] <buddhalover> okay thank you Flannel. :)
[09:03] <buddhalover> Pyro: no sorry...
[09:03] <thebishop> remu, ok
[09:03] <DanaG> Or better:  "Hey, Vista!  Keep your BCD off my GRUB!
[09:03] <remu> thebishop: yes?
[09:03] <thebishop> remu, you're going to have to use ndiswrapper, but there's not much sense configuring that in livecd
[09:04] <DanaG> BCD is Vista boot loader and its configuration.
[09:04] <Volvo> okkkkkkkk is there a front end GUI for samba to configure ?
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> swat
[09:04] <BenB__> Flannel: I just found a Celeron 1GHz 256MB RAM with a CD drive there. Think the CD installation would work if I put my HD there?
[09:04] <Volvo> apt get swat right ?
[09:04] <BenB__> apt-get *
[09:04] <Volvo> thanks
[09:04] <remu> it wont work period, or its not worth doing itbecause when i install ubuntu im just gonna have to do it again
[09:04] <Ropechoborra> Hi.. im trying to setup a LAN with a Windows XP. I can see shared files from ubuntu, but i cant from windows, i supouse its some Samba config error.. (guess with the users) can anybody help me?
[09:04] <Flannel> BenB__: uh, sure.
[09:05] <thebishop> remu, install the system, follow this tutorial:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[09:05] <remu> cause if its the latter, i dont mind, ill write the stuff down, and so on
[09:05] <BenB__> alright, I'll have a go
[09:05] <remu> thanks thebishop
[09:05] <thebishop> remu, latter, and because the modules require a restart
[09:05] <remu> oh ok
[09:05] <thebishop> remu, so its really no good for livecd
[09:06] <jdmpike> anyone in here running Tomcat on ubuntu?
[09:07] <markedwards> solved it
[09:07] <DanaG> !samba
[09:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: sure.
[09:07] <DanaG> for Ropechoborra.
[09:07] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[09:07] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, I am trying to figure out how to make tomcat5 use sun-java5 instead of kaffe
[09:07] <DanaG> That's a handy thing in the Ubuntu channel -- the !thingy commands.
[09:07] <DanaG> like !thingy
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: edit the startup script and override the JAVA_HOME variable.
[09:08] <DanaG> !nevermind.
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nevermind. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: I mean, the config file, not the startup script.
[09:08] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, which config file?
[09:08] <DanaG> !tux
[09:08] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[09:09] <thebishop> does the "Share Folder" context menu work for anyone here?
[09:09] <thebishop> it never works for me
[09:09] <thebishop> when i try to access the folder, it asks for User/Pass and nothing works
[09:09] <markedwards> can anyone explain the ",,," in most of my long usernames in /etc/passwd?
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: /etc/default/tomcat5
[09:10] <Volvo> how to run swat, i cann't find it in installed applications or any other menu, do i need to type swat in the terminal
[09:11] <Volvo> although package manager says its installed by default with the samba
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> markedwards: man passwd :)
[09:11] <thebishop> for any musicians here, "Hydrogen" is an incredible app
[09:11] <thebishop> just thought i'd put that out there
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: read up on it, its not a program, but a server you browse to.
[09:11] <strotfest> thebishop, i thought it was a neat toy :D
[09:12] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, thanks!
[09:12] <thebishop> strotfest, i had my laptop hooked up to my amp today, and was playing along to the beats
[09:12] <thebishop> good times
[09:12] <Volvo> O.O
[09:12] <thebishop> some of the free drumkits are quite good
[09:13] <strotfest> thebishop, keen :D  it's pretty much the only audio-production app i've had any success with thus far, but i'm not very seasoned with linux as yet
[09:13] <qsrv> hi
[09:13] <strotfest> thebishop, i didn't care for the 808 emulation but it was still fairly crisp
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> there is another app that shows a virtual keyboard, but I forgot the name.
[09:14] <strotfest> i've been trying to get propellerheads reason working via WINE to no avail (yet)...i'd rather just run FOSS to make music though, really
[09:15] <thebishop> Arduour is the best FOSS non-linear multitrack app i'm aware of
[09:15] <strotfest> (nod) i've heard good things.  but good lord is it ugly. :D
[09:15] <thebishop> yeah, its hideous
[09:15] <Scottrix> hey peoples
[09:15] <markedwards> fyrestrtr: thanks.  actually its man 5 passwd ;)  I get what the commas are from, but wtf? that makes it so mail from the command line comes from "Mark Edwards,,,"
[09:15] <strotfest> i can't bear the way it looks, though that's not very important i suppose
[09:15] <thebishop> there was a project called "Wired" that looked very nice, but i don't know if it ever got off the ground
[09:16] <strotfest> i was looking at wired the other day.  haven't tried setting it up though.  seemed like it had potential
[09:16] <thebishop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[09:16] <thebishop> i wish Hydrogen had a full-screen mode
[09:16] <Scottrix> i've got a question for anyone who can help me out - i've tried installing xcompmgr, but it can't find the package
[09:16] <jdmpike> where does sun-java5 install java?
[09:17] <jatt> C-x C-z makes xterm hang. is this a bug?
[09:17] <strotfest> i found a great thread on the forums not long ago where some people were talking about making an app to combine hydrogen, amsynth, et cetera to create a virtual studio rack a la reason
[09:17] <thebishop> Scottrix, xcompmgr is antiquated
[09:17] <ursatz> anyone can help with a PPC installation issue?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> jdmpike: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:17] <NickGarvey> the desktop cd is the live cd?
[09:17] <thebishop> Scottrix, look up Compiz
[09:17] <Flannel> NickGarvey: yes
[09:17] <NickGarvey> Flannel: what is the difference between the alternate and server cd?
[09:17] <Scottrix> thebishop: hmmm, ok, just as good?
[09:17] <thebishop> Scottrix, lightyears better
[09:18] <Scottrix> thebishop: ah, very good
[09:18] <jdmpike> fyrestrtr, again - thanks!
[09:18] <thebishop> xcomp is just dropshadows and translucency
[09:18] <Flannel> NickGarvey: alternate is the old text-mode installer, server is a specialized "server only" one, that includes a LAMP pre-install, and a few specialized kernels
[09:18] <thebishop> compiz is the next-level
[09:18] <Scottrix> ooh, i like next level
[09:18] <NickGarvey> Flannel: oh thats very sweet, thank you
[09:18] <thebishop> window animations, 3d effects, fades, expose, etc
[09:19] <strotfest> *drool*
[09:19] <thebishop> its more advanced than OSX in many ways
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> I wouldn't go that far.
[09:19] <thebishop> and its running very smoothly on my Intel 915
[09:19] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, its not a sleek, but from a technical standpoint, its there
[09:19] <redblades> Hi, I was wondering, is it possible to create an install CD from my installed System? as in, I could choose whcih packages would be installed next time?
[09:20] <thebishop> Scottrix, wanna see some screens?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: its a great show stopper, but as far as productivity goes, I don't think it increases it any.
[09:21] <redblades> I have an install CD, but it is now out of date, so it's not very useful if I have to keep doing updates all the time.
[09:21] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, lol big deal, its fun
[09:21] <Scottrix> thebishop: sounds good :)
[09:21] <lange> fyrestrtr there are some features that are immediately useful, and some that developed will help also
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: you'd have 10 fold better productivty if you go with dual monitors, for example.
[09:21] <jdmpike> sometimes, it is a total show stopper, like when you full screen something like eclipse and it doesn't work any more
[09:22] <NickGarvey> fyrestrtr: +1
[09:22] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797044
[09:22] <lange> I haven't really found any pratical use for wobbly though -_-
[09:22] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797052
[09:22] <NickGarvey> I don't think XGL is about practical heh
[09:22] <thebishop> lange i have OSX on this laptop, and i can't live without wobbly windows!
[09:22] <thebishop> :D
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgw6.png
[09:23] <lange> I just think in the future you will see a lot of very useful interface designs come from this
[09:24] <lange> and the expose like function is great for multiple desktops
[09:24] <dan_kent> anyone know where I can get libasound2 1.0.11 for ubuntu?
[09:24] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, nice ;)
[09:24] <thebishop> i love that wallpaper
[09:25] <thebishop> that taskbar would be cluttered on my laptop though
[09:25] <Phirax_On_Laptop> isn't that vista?
[09:25] <crimsun> dan_kent: only in Edgy.
[09:25] <lange> heh
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: no, its ubuntu
[09:26] <Scottrix> "couldn't find package compiz"
[09:26] <Scottrix> :(
[09:26] <thebishop> Scottrix, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: this is my laptop > http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laptopog3.png
[09:27] <thebishop> welcome to the future
[09:27] <farous> crimsun: can someone build-packages from edgy for dapper using the source repos. same as easy-backports in debian?
[09:27] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: serious looks so much like vista, a skin or something hey?
[09:27] <lange> Scottrix, add to sources.list -> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[09:27] <thebishop> i like that icon set, but i can't get used to transparent taskbars
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: its a compiz window decoration theme
[09:28] <crimsun> farous: in some cases, yes.
[09:28] <Scottrix> how do i add to a sources list?
[09:28] <farous> crimsun: thanx
[09:28] <Flannel> Scottrix: edit it with an editor
[09:28] <crimsun> farous: it's not recommended due to possible API/ABI breakage.
[09:28] <Scottrix> where's the file?
[09:28] <lange> flannel, that was pretty redundant!
[09:28] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: ah ok
[09:29] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: in gnome or kde?
[09:29] <lange> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <Flannel> Scottrix: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or gksudo gedit, or kdesu kate
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: gnome
[09:29] <Scottrix> cool, thanks
[09:29] <farous> API/ABI ?
[09:29] <Flannel> lange: it wasnt!  one was a verb, the other a noun.  not my fault the use the same root word ;)
[09:29] <thebishop> does anyone have an opinion of this new Glucose project
[09:29] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: ahh nice,
[09:29] <thebishop> Scottrix, just follow the link i sent, it has tutorials for all major hardware
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: the resolution is not clear because imageshack resizes it.
[09:30] <Elephant> Hmm...I have a couple of extra computers at home, and I'd like to do something interesting with them...does anyone have ideas for fun Linux box projects?
[09:30] <thebishop> Elephant, set up a cluster and watch the load balancing
[09:30] <RancidLM> can some one help me for some reason synaptic returns this error "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ?
[09:30] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: yeah the image won't go larger than my window width
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Elephant: compile farm, clustered rendering, game servers, routers, etc.
[09:30] <lange> elephant: compute the digits of pi?
[09:30] <Elephant> So far, I've only come up with three ideas - file/print server, media file server, and media client
[09:30] <WLayout> how can i turn off stricthostchecking for ssh?
[09:31] <Scottrix> thebishop: it still can't find compiz
[09:31] <thebishop> dude... its not in the standard repos
[09:31] <Flannel> #ubuntu-xgl for the XGL related questions, please.
[09:31] <NickGarvey> Elephant: if you want to use it as a media client try geexbox or something
[09:31] <thebishop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[09:31] <lange> Scottrix: did you do apt-get update after you added the repo to your sources list?
[09:31] <thebishop> click the link that best matches your hardware
[09:31] <Elephant> well, the client part is a bit longer term
[09:32] <Elephant> shorter term is getting a working file server
[09:32] <thebishop> Elephant, if you have a CPU that supports SSE2, you could try installing OSX on it (illegal)
[09:32] <Scottrix> lange: nope should do that huh
[09:32] <Elephant> then a second file server with a LOT of HD space
[09:32] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr hey does the window blurr/tranparency work ok?
[09:32] <NickGarvey> Elephant: not that hard, proftpd should do it
[09:32] <lange> yessir
[09:32] <DanaG> How do you save a log in irssi?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> sure
[09:32] <DanaG> I wanna save the addresses of pics people say.
[09:32] <d104> Hi Guys, I'm having problems connecting Evolution to my exchange account. Does anyone know how I can diagnose whats going wrong?
[09:33] <NickGarvey> d104: perhaps you need ssl?
[09:33] <Scottrix> cool, now i'm getting somewhere
[09:33] <Jbirk> Can XGL run on an Nvidia 5200 FX Go?
[09:33] <thebishop> Jbirk, probably
[09:33] <Jbirk> would it run well??
[09:33] <Phirax_On_Laptop> thebishop: yeah tried that din't work to well,
[09:34] <thebishop> Phirax_On_Laptop, OSX?
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> yeah
[09:34] <thebishop> works good on my laptop
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> tiger 10.4.6
[09:34] <thebishop> same here
[09:34] <thebishop> what GPU you got?
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> ahh well there is a bug with the USB mkext thing,
[09:34] <Elephant> NickGarvey, thanks - I'll do some googling.  I'll need something that seamlessly integrates with WinXP over a wireless network, though
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> d104: check the logs on the exchange server.
[09:34] <Jbirk> 5200 FX Go
[09:34] <Phirax_On_Laptop> x800xt
[09:34] <farous> ok got what is ment by api/abi compat :)
[09:34] <Volvo> what is PDC /
[09:34] <Elephant> which would call for SAMBA, unless I miss my guess
[09:34] <NickGarvey> Elephant: if I recall geexbox has samba built in, and will play your media files if shared on windows
[09:34] <DanaG> hmm, uPnP anyone?
[09:34] <DanaG> !upnp
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <NickGarvey> Elephant: oh but the wireless is the fun part heh
[09:35] <Volvo> !PDC
[09:35] <Phirax_On_Laptop> i apparently need the kext file from 10.4.3 to get my USB hub working,
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PDC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <thebishop> Jbirk, just give it a shot, i think you'll be plesantly surprised... especially considering Vista's requirements
[09:35] <Elephant> well
[09:35] <Jbirk> I know I have the RAM
[09:35] <Jbirk> I have 2 GB
[09:35] <Jbirk> how do I install XGL?
[09:35] <Elephant> the wireless applies for the reg. file server project
[09:35] <Jbirk> any easy tutorial?
[09:35] <thebishop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[09:35] <d104> NickGarvey: I've tried both the http and https url for the OWA without any success. Both tell me I have an incorrect username and password
[09:35] <Jbirk> Should I backup my ssytem first?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Jbirk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl
[09:35] <DanaG> What themes and wallpapers were people showing off?
[09:35] <Elephant> I'm hatching a plot to wire the house for streaming audio/video using media server(s)
[09:36] <lange> Elephant: you should look into mythTV
[09:36] <NickGarvey> Elephant: use icecast for that (is my suggestion)
[09:36] <d104> fyrestrtr: I'm afraid it's a hosted exchange server with 1and1 so I have no access to the exchange logs
[09:36] <thebishop> Elephant, i already got Xboxmediacenter doing that
[09:36] <Elephant> rip all CDs and DVDs in the house to the massive media server (note to self:  Buy more HDDs), then stream the proper files to a standard client in just about any room
[09:36] <NickGarvey> d104: I'm not familiar with evolution :/
[09:36] <thebishop> XBMC is awesome, but Myth has DVR which is nice
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> d104: not sure you can use the OWA information.
[09:37] <Elephant> DVR box would be nice, too
[09:37] <Phirax_On_Laptop> yeah mythtv is pretty nice, using that on my PVR box
[09:37] <thebishop> i have PVR in my cable box though that supports HD
[09:37] <thebishop> HD tv tuners are still pretty expensive
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png <-- better version
[09:37] <TheMoebius-Windo> is there some kind of multi-part downloading program for linux so I can download the same file from multiple mirrors at the same time to get it faster? on windows I use getright.
[09:37] <Phirax_On_Laptop> mediaportal ain't to bad either
[09:37] <WLayout> how can i turn off stricthostchecking for ssh?
[09:37] <thebishop> TheMoebius-Windo, uh ... bittorrent??
[09:37] <RancidLM> is thier a way i can post a bug.. i just found out that the libvte upgrade will break synaptec untill you do a ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[09:38] <Flannel> TheMoebius-Windo: check out jigdo, or bittorrent
[09:38] <RancidLM> *break synaptic
[09:38] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: ah yeah much clearer now, very spiffy
[09:38] <thebishop> Flannel, do people actually use jigdo?
[09:38] <Flannel> thebishop: you can get ubuntu with it ;)
[09:38] <thebishop> i never did... :(
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: I believe its a known issue. There is a post on the forums about it, and iirc, it only works if your have the xgl repos enabled.
[09:38] <Ropechoborra> How can i connect to internet from Windows XP trough a Lan with ubuntu ?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: enable ICS on Windows XP, then connect the two computers together using a hub.
[09:39] <thebishop> Ropechoborra, google "internet connection sharing ubuntu"
[09:39] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: ah.. i found the little ln trick worked great :D
[09:39] <TheMoebius-Windo> thebishop: ya, but bittorrent is different. for example, I'm trying to get the ubuntu live CD right now and its going at about 100K/s but my connections max download speed is more like 500K/s. If I could download different parts from different mirrors at the same time I could utilize all that bandwidth, which is what getright does on windows.
[09:39] <Phirax_On_Laptop> fyrestrtr: i see your an opera user, do you know if its possible to get opera running on AMD64? i can only find i386 versions
[09:39] <DanaG> Oh, I'd like to see those XGL pics links again.
[09:39] <Elephant> whee, I love SSH
[09:39] <TheMoebius-Windo> i never heard of jigdo, I'll take a look
[09:39] <DanaG> I have XGL, but I wanna see how OTHER people have it set up.
[09:40] <lange> DanaG: have you seen some of the videos on google video
[09:40] <thebishop> DanaG, http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797052
[09:40] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2797044
[09:40] <thebishop> http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2796633
[09:40] <DanaG> Yeah, I have XGL working.  I jsut wanted to see the wallpapers and skins (liked earlier, but I missed them in IRSSI.
[09:40] <Elephant> I'm on my regular winXP desktop (games), working on a new Ubuntu install on a second computer via Putty and the OpenSSH server I set up immediately after installation
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Phirax_On_Laptop: I don't know about that, sorry.
[09:41] <Elephant> SSH server should be standard on all new Linux installations
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png
[09:41] <thebishop> Elephant, policy is no open ports by default
[09:41] <thebishop> smart move imo
[09:41] <Phirax_On_Laptop> no worries, might have to drop back doen to i368
[09:41] <Phirax_On_Laptop> *down
[09:41] <Elephant> unless you select the LAMP option from the Ubuntu server CD
[09:42] <Elephant> good point on the defaults, though, thadood
[09:42] <DanaG> How do I SSH into a server that's offering X forwarding?
[09:42] <Elephant> thebishop*
[09:42] <Jbirk> How do I install lamp on Ubuntu without the server CD?
[09:42] <DanaG> How does dual-monitor XGL work?
[09:42] <DanaG> Separate cubes, or one cube?
[09:42] <Elephant> spend a few hours installing and configuring Apache, MySQL, and PHP/Perl/Python
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: just like you would, normally. If you want to forward X, you need an X client on your machine, then forward the ports.
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: one cube.
[09:42] <Nick{Sleeping}> DanaG: ssh -X
[09:42] <thebishop> Jbirk, apt-get mysql-common apache2 php
[09:43] <thoreauputic> DanaG: ssh -X user@serverIP
[09:43] <Volvo> elephant >> thats make you my new best friend
[09:43] <Elephant> or use SSH w/o X-forwarding and use the command-line
[09:43] <DanaG> Is there a way to use a nested X?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> DanaG: capital X (important)
[09:43] <Volvo> elephant should i add u to my notify list, 'cause i m persuing the same :) LAMP
[09:43] <DanaG> Try ssh'ing into a server then running startkde.
[09:43] <Elephant> heh
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> !lamp
[09:43] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:43] <DanaG> From within gnome-terminal.
[09:43] <Elephant> I used the Ubuntu server CD to do a LAMP install on an old server at work
[09:43] <DanaG> In Ubuntu.
[09:43] <DanaG> It's odd!
[09:44] <Elephant> we set up Subversion and Trac, linked them both to Apache, and added a couple of extra plugins to make life easier
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> !away > Ropechoborra
[09:44] <Volvo> well i have a second hand compaq evo d500 with 512mb ram and 80 gig hdd for the purpose i hope it will be enough
[09:44] <thoreauputic> DanaG: Try freenx ( uses ssh, works well )
[09:44] <virogenesis> does anyone know where i could get the xubuntu wallpaper from?
[09:44] <Elephant> looks like I'll have to do some custom programming to tie them toegether a bit better, though
[09:45] <thebishop> virogenesis, check out art.ubuntu.org
[09:45] <Volvo> elephant >> u using apache-2 or 1 ?
[09:45] <ursatz> anyone can help with a PPC installation issue?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> ursatz: just ask - if someone knows they will help
[09:45] <Elephant> we need both the svn and Trac environments to get created automatically with one command, for ease-of-use
[09:45] <test0012> Hello, everyone. I'm working on a local framebuffered console on ubuntu, and when I've sshed to a remote machine which running Mac OS X 10.4.7, I found the palette was different from the ubuntu local palette. The blue color was very dark, so how can I keep my palette?
[09:45] <Elephant> Volvo, apache 2
[09:45] <Volvo> does ubuntu supports DNN ( Dot Net Nuke )  ?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: does DNN support Mono?
[09:46] <virogenesis> :(
[09:46] <Volvo> lol
[09:46] <Volvo> apt-get mono right ?
[09:46] <ursatz> I got a problem with X not working on a mac G3 Beige "Oldworld"... anyone can help?
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: you need to find out if DNN supports mono -- if it doesn't installing it won't do you any good.
[09:47] <thebishop> ursatz, i'm not sure if pre-imac G3 is supported
[09:47] <Volvo> oh
[09:47] <ursatz> it is
[09:47] <Volvo> ok
[09:47] <thebishop> ok
[09:47] <test0012> And I read something at /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh, which has a function called reset_vga_palette, it just print ESC] R to the console. But it doesn't reset the remote palette.
[09:47] <test0012> Anyone here familiar with these stuffs?
[09:48] <thebishop> so... how long before Ubuntu is as common as Firefox?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: we have to get the crop circle first
[09:48] <Elephant> Hard to say...
[09:48] <thebishop> :)
[09:48] <Volvo> it is alot now, <<thebishop>>
[09:48] <Elephant> LiveCDs is a good way to get some exposure, though
[09:48] <Volvo> i have distributed many cds in my city, where this technoolgy is new for most of them
[09:49] <lange> Volvo: what city?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> me standing outside naked waving a large banner with UBUNTU written on it, is another way to get some exposure.
[09:49] <Volvo> :)
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> and depending on which angle you look at, you get more or less exposure.
[09:49] <Volvo> Dera Ismail Khan ? ever heard about it ?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> Volvo: Jhelum, ever heard about it?
[09:49] <Volvo> lol
[09:49] <Volvo> coool
[09:49] <lange> noooo
[09:49] <thebishop> i think IT-types who are sick of Windows Product Activation, and the like would gladly switch over
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> I have switched over three people
[09:50] <anze> hi > *
[09:50] <Volvo> and i have distributed atleast 21 cds
[09:50] <lange> I would think places like libraries and the such would have a good run with ubuntu
[09:50] <thebishop> if World of Warcraft ran smoother on my laptop, i wouldn't have a windows partition
[09:50] <iter> thebishop: wga is not a problem for it types
[09:50] <lange> I don't know why more government run places don't have linux installed on their public computers
[09:50] <iter> they usually pay for their licenses
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: what video card is on your laptop?
[09:51] <thebishop> iter, i have a legal license, and i've exceeded my "activation quota"
[09:51] <iter> lange: they get a fat discount from ms
[09:51] <thebishop> reinstalling Windows XP means a 20 minute conversation with someone in india
[09:51] <DanaG> Ubuntu has apt, and it puts stuff in STANDARD places.
[09:51] <lange> iter: that's what I figured, it's such a shame
[09:51] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, Intel 915
[09:51] <DanaG> SuSE does stuff like /opt/kde3, /opt/gnome, and such.
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: should work okay (as long as you don't run xgl)
[09:52] <iter> thebishop: I have yet to encounter any wga problems at work
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> DanaG: that's actually pretty common.
[09:52] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, it runs, but its a bit too choppy to enjoy
[09:52] <iter> like the vast majority of ppl
[09:52] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, maybe future Wine updates will help
[09:52] <iter> don't get me wrong, I have a ubuntu machine too
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: I always compile wine from source
[09:52] <iter> it's great for some stuff
[09:52] <DanaG> Also, SusE uses a "makes everything TOO easy" YaST -- I love it, but it spoiled me.
[09:52] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, i'm using the WineHQ repo
[09:52] <iter> but for the average user that I administer forget ubuntu
[09:53] <iter> first of all, no group policy
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> actually, there is.
[09:53] <iter> hit me up
[09:53] <iter> I want to see that ish
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> check out the oem customizations. There is also terminal services, remote imaging (ala Norton Ghost), etc. All is there, you just have to dig around a bit to find out.
[09:54] <Scottrix> hey, i've got a fair bit working
[09:54] <iter> what kind of answer is that
[09:54] <iter> I was talking about group policy
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> iter: I'm telling you, group policy and everything else is available in ubuntu.
[09:54] <thebishop> Scottrix, good for you man
[09:55] <lange> doesn't SUSE setup out of the box to connect to windows domains?  I've never tested it but it was an option
[09:55] <Scottrix> compiz is pretty good, though stuff like alt+tab doesn't work anymore
[09:55] <Scottrix> thebishop: any ideas
[09:55] <thebishop> Scottrix, yeah
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> iter: you need to search for it. Ubuntu is a 'end user' distro, so for stuff like this, its a bit more work.
[09:55] <thebishop> there's a red box up in your taskbar
[09:55] <thebishop> click Preferences
[09:55] <anze> i have a silly Q, but i'm serious! Why dows ubuntu run so much faster (has better performance) than usual Fedora, Suse... ? Because there is a *big* different there
[09:55] <DanaG> I'm using Ubuntu right now simply because I see more updates of things in the Ubuntu repos than I see in SuSE 10.1's YaST repos.
[09:56] <Scottrix> thebishop: i dont' see a red box
[09:56] <iter> hmm funny how "ubuntu group policy" doesn't result in many google hits
[09:56] <lange> it could be under system, preferences
[09:56] <iter> not to be a troll
[09:56] <Scottrix> oh ok, no worries
[09:56] <iter> I'll do my own research thank
[09:56] <Scottrix> what am i looking for?
[09:57] <thebishop> click Preferences
[09:57] <lange> iter: you'll probably have better luck with "linux group policy"
[09:57] <thebishop> iter, are you talking about group permissions?
[09:57] <iter> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:R5LLuaT3pGIJ:www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D218391+ubuntu+group+policy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10
[09:57] <iter> yeah, cause that kind of claims the opposite
[09:58] <iter> and no, I'm not talking about file permissions
[09:58] <DanaG> gpedit.msc
[09:58] <DanaG> System restrictions.
[09:58] <DanaG> Like, no downloads in IE, no changing wallpaper, and such.
[09:58] <iter> I'm talking about the stuff that group policy makes really really easy
[09:58] <iter> DanaG: very close but you get the idea
[09:58] <iter> you have a lot of granular control over the user experience
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> iter: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/15478.html and
[09:59] <iter> fyrestrtr: thanks, but that article talks about samba
[10:00] <thebishop> Scottrix, hows it going?
[10:00] <DanaG> SuSE is good for servers and admin stuff -- YaST is great.
[10:01] <DanaG> I still don't know exactly why I ditched SuSE 10.1 for Dapper -- perhaps I was just sick of KDE and blue.
[10:01] <Scottrix> thebishop: was just looking at the keyboard shortcuts, is that what  you wanted me to do?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> iter: it talks about policy control using samba as pdc.
[10:01] <iter> ah it sure is
[10:01] <iter> I'm reading that custom poledit page atm
[10:01] <DanaG> gotta stop X again.
[10:01] <iter> cool hack
[10:01] <thebishop> in that Preferences app, there is a list of plugins on the left side
[10:01] <PyroManiak> Anyone have a problem with the built in VNC server for Ubuntu locking the system?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> iter: I am trying to find the one about group policy, give me a second.
[10:02] <thebishop> check all of them except "trailfocus, bs, neg, blur, dbus, and reflection"
[10:02] <Scottrix> thebishop: i still don't know where this preferences app is
[10:03] <Timmy-C> i need somebody to help me out with a GRUB issue
[10:03] <thebishop> where were you looking at keyboard shortcuts?
[10:03] <lange> Scottrix: System->preferences->CGWD Themer
[10:03] <lange> does that exist?
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> iter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CorporateUbuntu :)
[10:03] <Scottrix> lange: nope
[10:04] <woodwizzle> in gconf can i set shortcuts for the mouse?
[10:04] <Scottrix> thebishop: was looking at keyboard shortcuts under system>preferences
[10:05] <lange> oh I'm sorry, I wasn't even looking in the right place
[10:05] <Timmy-C> i had Ubuntu 5.10 installed on a second partition on my other machine and i reformated all the linux partitions as i needed the space for something else windows related. I formatted it using Partition Magic and upon reboot i am getting GRUB Error 17.
[10:05] <thebishop> Scottrix, link me to the exact tutorial you followed
[10:06] <Scottrix> thebishop: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:06] <manmadha> !fm
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <maz> !kernel
[10:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:07] <iter> fyrestrtr: dope thanks
[10:07] <Timmy-C> i had Ubuntu 5.10 installed on a second partition on my other machine and i reformated all the linux partitions as i needed the space for something else windows related. I formatted it using Partition Magic and upon reboot i am getting GRUB Error 17.
[10:08] <eitch0000> Timmy-C: I think that changed your partition numbering, so now grub might be searching on the wrong partition for your root
[10:08] <eitch0000> !topic
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Timmy-C> i know. i just wanna remove Grub all together
[10:08] <iter> Timmy-C: grub was installed on the mbr
[10:09] <iter> boot from windows cd to recovery console
[10:09] <Timmy-C> yeah
[10:09] <eitch0000> Timmy-C: install a windows mbr?
[10:09] <iter> run fdisk /mbr
[10:09] <iter> and fixboot
[10:09] <iter> donw
[10:09] <iter> done *
[10:09] <Timmy-C> thanks
[10:09] <Timmy-C> brb
[10:09] <eitch0000> yeah
[10:09] <thebishop> Scottrix, ok, now do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:09] <Timmy-C> im just giving it a try now
[10:09] <Goshawk> hi, why the file /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh is part of lsb-base in ubuntu while in debian it's part of the package usplash? ( http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=usplash&version=unstable&arch=amd64 )
[10:09] <thebishop> add these at the bottom: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[10:09] <thebishop> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[10:10] <thebishop> then run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:10] <thebishop> actually
[10:10] <thebishop> sorry
[10:11] <thebishop> don't add those repos
[10:11] <thebishop> add these instead:
[10:11] <thebishop> deb http://xgl.compiz.info dapper main
[10:11] <thebishop> either way it will work
[10:11] <thebishop> but this repo upgrades compiz like every day
[10:11] <Scottrix> thebishop: ok
[10:12] <thebishop> after you do dist-upgrade, you should get a red cube in your taskbar that will have compiz controls
[10:14] <Scottrix> thebishop: ok i already had that listing in sources, but i'll do both updates and see what happens
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> !enter
[10:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:14] <thebishop> :)
[10:15] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, you play WoW in linux?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> I used to
[10:16] <thebishop> what gpu?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> ATI x300
[10:16] <ever> m.o.i
[10:16] <thebishop> hmm
[10:16] <thebishop> pretty lousy, like mine
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> I need to get back on it with my nvidia 5600GT
[10:17] <thebishop> 6600 or 5600?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> ati just makes crap drivers
[10:17] <ever> llllllllllllll
[10:17] <No1Viking> My screensaver is slow even if I got fglrx installed correctly. Any ideas what to do?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> FX 5500
[10:17] <Scottrix> thebishop: i still don't have a red box in the taskbar
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Scottrix: you don't get it in the task bar anymore.
[10:18] <thebishop> fyrestrtr, i still get it...
[10:18] <ever> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: well you shouldn't if you use cgwd properly
[10:19] <debuntu> ever, are you slightly retarded?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ever: stop it please
[10:19] <Scottrix> i gather the whole point is so that i can configure compiz
[10:19] <thebishop> maybe becayse i have gset-compiz installed
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Scottrix: no, so you can configure themes for compiz.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> thebishop: its probably because you never changed your startup script
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ah Ok too late..
[10:19] <Scottrix> i just need to fix up the keys so that i can alt tab etc
[10:20] <thebishop> there's a compiz plugin for alt-tab
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Scottrix: from a terminal, type xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"
[10:20] <thebishop> that's why its not working
[10:20] <debuntu> thoreauputic, you should have gone the insult, like me. Even when they have left you have the satisfaction of having abused them.
[10:20] <debuntu> a lot of 'haves' in that sentance
[10:20] <thebishop> you need to enable it, either in gconf or gset-compiz (which is sort of depreciated now)
[10:20] <thoreauputic> debuntu: ah, but I signed the code of conduct ;)
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> don't use gset-compiz, it doesn't work. In fact, get rid of it, and use gconf-editor
[10:21] <No1Viking> My screensaver is slow even if I got fglrx installed correctly. Any ideas what to do?
[10:21] <debuntu> thoreauputic, good point ... that's why i softened it though - asking a question of slight mental impairment.
[10:21] <thebishop> i still like it for enabling-disabling plugins, but the plugin parameters are a crapshoot
[10:21] <thebishop> and it makes it easy to enable/disable compiz
[10:22] <Scottrix> so what do people suggest?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> also, take xgl discussion to #ubuntu-xgl
[10:23] <thebishop> good call
[10:24] <thebishop> and #xgl folks are helpful
[10:27] <Scottrix> can't see that alt+tab plugin
[10:29] <Higgy> hi, i'm trying to install the 915resolution package but it requires a slightly later version of libc6 than in supplied with dapper but i can't find an updated package
[10:30] <Higgy> any idea where i can get it?
[10:30] <thebishop> Higgy, i don't think you need that anymore
[10:30] <thebishop> 915 works fine for me without it
[10:31] <Higgy> oh, ok
[10:32] <Manziege> could someone please help me install windows via qemu?
[10:32] <Higgy> any idea how i configure my screen resolution to what it should be (1280x800)?
[10:33] <Higgy> is it just a matter of adding the 'forceBIOS' line to xorg.conf?
[10:33] <thebishop> i've never used that
[10:33] <recklessray> hi all, im trying to open and view the contents of an iso file that contains some mpegs. how can i do that from the command line? when i try to cd into the iso, i get the 'file is not a directory' error msg...
[10:34] <debuntu> recklessray, you have to mount the iso onto the loopback
[10:34] <thebishop> Higgy, have you tried just adding 1280x800 to xorg?
[10:35] <recklessray> how do i mount it like that debuntu?
[10:35] <recklessray> do you know of a howto ?
[10:35] <debuntu> recklessray, i sensed that was the next question :)
[10:35] <debuntu> recklessray, i'll tell you
[10:35] <Manziege> could someon please help me get my CD-RW Drive working?
[10:36] <thebishop> ugh
[10:36] <thebishop> i don't know what you'd do if it doesn't work otb
[10:36] <thebishop> is it ide?
[10:37] <debuntu> recklessray, look at my pm to you :)
[10:39] <debuntu> recklessray, ok anyway ... 'modprobe loop'; 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop <filename>.iso /mnt/iso'
[10:40] <debuntu> recklessray, remember to create a mount point, or use an existing one (the /mnt/iso part)
[10:40] <recklessray> ok cool, ill give it a go. ill paste that onto a note and try later - gota run - MANY THANKS!
[10:40] <snakehit> somebody have experience with airsnort?
[10:41] <zsh> hi! i just upgraded to dapper from breezy but i'm still running on the 2.6.12 linux kernel instead of 2.6.15. anyone know how i can sort this out??
[10:42] <thoreauputic> zsh: have you rebooted since?
[10:42] <snakehit> autoupdate ?
[10:42] <snakehit> sniper ^
[10:42] <snakehit> lol
[10:42] <zsh> 2.6.15 is not an option in grub. thoreauputic, yes i have, twice
[10:43] <thoreauputic> zsh: hmm - odd then
[10:43] <zsh> in synaptic it shows that 2.6.15 is installed
[10:43] <thoreauputic> zsh: is 2.6.15 in your /boot directory ?
[10:43] <zsh> lemm check
[10:44] <zsh> lemme*
[10:44] <thoreauputic> if so , grub needs an update I guess
[10:44] <frogzoo> I don't get sound in flash - what to do?
[10:44] <frogzoo> !flash
[10:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:44] <zsh> thoreauputic, there are some files that have 2.6.15 in them
[10:45] <bayle> hola
[10:45] <zsh> thoreauputic, like system.map-2.6.15
[10:45] <thoreauputic> zsh: you are looking for something like vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686
[10:45] <thoreauputic> or 386 or whatever...
[10:45] <zsh> thoreauputic, yes its there
[10:46] <Warbo> Can someone try running xteddy please? I want to see if my problem is unique
[10:46] <thoreauputic> zsh: OK grub needs a reminder I guess - try running sudo update-grub
[10:46] <zsh> ok
[10:46] <keithhhh> Can someone tell me how to install vmware so I can run windows in linux?
[10:46] <Ranbee> hi, is there any way to do build-essential without an internet connection? is it somewhere on the cd?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Ranbee: yes, it's on theCD
[10:47] <Ranbee> thoreauputic: thanks, it that already configured, or do i need to add it in synaptic?
[10:47] <zsh> thoreauputic, it says no grub directory found.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> Ranbee: should be configured - check that the CD is in your list ( System - Admin - Software Properties)
[10:48] <zsh> !vmware
[10:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:48] <thoreauputic> zsh: hmmm
[10:48] <Ranbee> thoreauputic: thanks so much :)
[10:49] <thoreauputic> zsh: do you have a /boot/grub directory?
[10:49] <zsh> !vmware > keithhhh
[10:49] <zsh> thoreauputic, nope!
[10:49] <Papageno> If I have a computer than can boot into Damn Small Linux (from HDD), how would I start on it an Ubuntu net install? The computer does not have a CD or floppy drive (at least no working ones)--the DSL is booting from HDD.
[10:49] <thoreauputic> zsh: well, that seems to be the problem then
[10:50] <thoreauputic> zsh: somehow you lost your grub dir
[10:50] <zsh> thoreauputic, i dont get it. last time i upgraded the kernel i didnt have this problem
[10:50] <thoreauputic> zsh: yes, it seems very odd
[10:50] <zsh> thoreauputic, does it matter that my box is dual boot
[10:50] <thoreauputic> zsh: you might have to reinstall grub
[10:51] <Warbo> If an Ubutnu sytem has been installed on a USB drive using debootstrap, is installing GRUB just as simple as "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> zsh: it might matter - do you have another linux, or windows?
[10:51] <zsh> thoreauputic, i had windows initially, then i after i found out the joys of ubuntu i formatted that partition
[10:52] <zsh> :)
[10:52] <Warbo> Papageno: You could use debootstrap to install Ubuntu from within another Linux system
[10:52] <thoreauputic> zsh: for instance do youhave a separate /boot partition?
[10:52] <snakehit> does anyone know when i typ 'make' in terminal it never works
[10:52] <snakehit> Always command not found
[10:52] <thoreauputic> snakehit: install build-essential
[10:52] <Warbo> snakehit: install "build-essential"
[10:52] <snakehit> is that
[10:52] <snakehit> apt-get install build-essential?
[10:52] <Warbo> "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[10:52] <Warbo> (or apt-get)
[10:52] <thoreauputic> snail: yes , prepend sudo
[10:53] <snakehit> ok
[10:53] <snakehit> done
[10:53] <snakehit> lets try :P
[10:53] <snakehit> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:53] <Herb> 4 days of Linux, so far...
[10:53] <snakehit> 2 week of Ubuntu here :P
[10:53] <snakehit> Try to fix airsnort
[10:54] <Warbo> snakehit: Are you sure you have run ./configure ?
[10:54] <IRCMonkeyX> is opera universe repo ?
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> !opera > IRCMonkeyX
[10:55] <thoreauputic> snakehit: you need to have a makefile and be in the right directory :)
[10:55] <snakehit> i see
[10:55] <snakehit> thats ok
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> you also need the source
[10:55] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: No, it is in the commercial repo (go in Applications>Add/Remove)
[10:55] <snakehit> but i read now the text, it gives an error
[10:55] <snakehit> configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0    atk >= 1.9.0    pango >= 1.12.0    cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met.
[10:55] <RudyValencia> Is it possible to make X "manual-start"?
[10:55] <Papageno> Warbo: Can you please be more specific? Is there maybe a tutorial just for this--for installing Ubuntu from another linux environment?
[10:55] <Warbo> RudyValencia: Type "X"
[10:55] <IRCMonkeyX> people, they say that opera's speed is more than firefox , is it correct ? do u use it ?
[10:56] <debuntu> IRCMonkeyX, it is faster, but has some small rendering probs on occasion
[10:56] <Herb> i use opera,, just find it more comfortable
[10:56] <debuntu> IRCMonkeyX, i prefer swiftfox
[10:56] <RudyValencia> Clarification: how do I set it up so it doesn't automatically load at startup?
[10:56] <Warbo> Papageno: If you install debootstrap then run it (check out it's manual for options) then it will install an Ubuntu system into a folder (so if you have mounted a HD partition in that folder it will install to the partition), then you can use chroot (once again, look at the manual) to configure it
[10:57] <Warbo> RudyValencia: I think you would have to remove GDM, KDM, XDM, etc. from the bootup (with update-rc.d"
[10:57] <RudyValencia> OK
[10:57] <snakehit> I like ubuntu but its not easy to install programs, in windows you do .exe and next next... and it works :P Here you  need to do 100 things and its not yet working :P
[10:57] <IRCMonkeyX> i always used ie, than started to use firefox with ubuntu, firefox was a revolution for me, and now people says opera is better :)
[10:58] <snakehit> es
[10:58] <Warbo> !synaptic > snakehit
[10:58] <snakehit> Yes
[10:58] <m0> hi can we make the other screens workspaces different backgrounds?
[10:58] <Warbo> snakehit: Windows programs do not come as source code, but Free Software generally does
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> on my system, opera takes 216 MB of RAM, Firefox, 86 MB. Both have 6 tabs open.
[10:59] <m0> currently i have the same background on all screens
[10:59] <Higgy> thebishop: 1280x800 is the only resolution listed under the screen section on xorg.conf
[10:59] <Higgy> do i neeed to add it somewhere else?
[10:59] <kakado> fyrestrtr, shure its not virtual ram?
[10:59] <Warbo> snakehit: If there is no Ubuntu .deb available then it is not a fair comparison to Windows exe files, and also source code may take a few steps to install, but those steps work on LOADS of different operating systems on LOADS of different computer architectures
[11:00] <smack> can someone help me out with loading a module on boot?
[11:00] <Warbo> smack: Put it in /etc/modules
[11:00] <smack> I did that, it doesn't load.
[11:01] <smack> I can insmod after I'm booted and it loads.
[11:01] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[11:01] <smack> but it will not load in /etc/modules
[11:01] <debuntu> snakehit, also, with windows the IQ you need is not all that high, with linux it is a bit harder.
[11:01] <snakehit> yes Warbo, but like now. I want to install Airsnort, maby you know that program. But i can't install it because i need to update gtk+, when i update gtk+ then it says that i need to update glib... its a long way
[11:01] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: opera is not in add remove,  its name is different ? i cant find it...i click for commercial too
[11:01] <Warbo> snakehit: If a package was available then that would be automatic....
[11:02] <snakehit> a package is a .deb file?
[11:02] <eitch0000> !xgl
[11:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:02] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: I am pretty sure it is there, hang on
[11:02] <Herb> i have installed Opera, it must be easy...
[11:02] <HumanPrototype> I have just brought a dual core amd skt 939 (3800) and just wanted to know if there is any advice before I jump into 64bit ubuntu?
[11:02] <Warbo> snakehit: For Ubuntu, yes
[11:02] <keithhhh> to run windows in ubuntu do I install VMware Server for Linux??
[11:02] <snakehit> Yes
[11:02] <snakehit> keithhhh, or a dual boot
[11:02] <kakado> smack, probably the ordering matters, maybe put it in the end
[11:03] <snakehit> I have it as a dual boot, very easy
[11:03] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: unless you really want 64bit, run 32bit
[11:03] <keithhhh> snakehit: I dont want dual boot
[11:03] <smack> kakado: is it at the end.
[11:03] <snakehit> Ok
[11:03] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, surely that loses half the benefits?
[11:03] <kakado> smack, maybe then at the beginning
[11:03] <Herb> me too... dual boot is fool proof
[11:03] <smack> I only have 3 things in modules
[11:03] <smack> and one I added.
[11:04] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: not really. lots of bugs still to be worked out in 64bit
[11:04] <ramin> can someone help me with installing WINE
[11:04] <Josbeat> hi every1
[11:04] <ramin> I really need help
[11:04] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: I see it in Internet as "Opera"
[11:04] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, would I be better off going for a different distro or is the story the same all over?
[11:04] <Herb> i tried running Gentoo under VirtualPC , in Windows, it installed, but what an arcane OS
[11:05] <ramin> Virtual machine isn't good with linux
[11:05] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: story is the same everywhere
[11:05] <ramin> virtual machine was only made for windows and OS/2
[11:05] <smack> does the location of the module matter?
[11:05] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, hmm, thanks, slightly annoying though. Maybe I will go for x64bit anyway and bug test
[11:05] <Warbo> smack: I think it needs to be installed (somewhere in /lib/modules)
[11:05] <Herb> ubuntu seems to be much more "dummy friendly"
[11:06] <snakehit> ramin,  you have also a VM for Linux
[11:06] <ramin> yeah
[11:06] <smack> installed how?
[11:06] <snakehit> i used that
[11:06] <ramin> sort of
[11:06] <kakado> smack, it should be found by modprobe without the path
[11:06] <keithhhh> keithhhh: to run windows in ubuntu do I install VMware Server for Linux??
[11:06] <Warbo> smack: Usually "make install"
[11:06] <snakehit> thats possible, but it works :P
[11:06] <ramin> yeah
[11:06] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: i dont have it in internet :(
[11:06] <Warbo> (when you compiled it)
[11:06] <m0> sudo hi anyone know how to install gset-compiz
[11:06] <m0> I am doing apt-get install gset-compiz and it says it doesn't exist
[11:06] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: Did it updte itself after adding commercial?
[11:06] <smack> make install left it in the directory I compiled from.
[11:06] <ramin> but I really don't get WINE, can't they just let us download a RPM
[11:07] <Warbo> m0: Look at the AIGLX page on help.ubuntu.com/community (I put a link to it there)
[11:07] <ramin> I have to run my windows programs in linux
[11:07] <Warbo> m0: Just search for aiglx and it redirects
[11:07] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: sudo apt-get update ? no i didnt do this
[11:07] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, would I be able to download sources and then compile it myself or are the sources still architecture specific?
[11:07] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: I am not sure whether it updates after choosing new repos, but you would notice the progress bars
[11:07] <Herb> I'm gonna leave this install alone, for a week or two... and then maybe change a Theme or my login screen
[11:08] <ramin> any ideas anyone
[11:08] <bbrazil> HumanPrototype: sources are for all archs
[11:08] <m0> Warbo: okay I searched fr aiglx but I don't see gset-compiz
[11:08] <m0> n,m
[11:08] <m0> last sentence
[11:08] <smack> modprobe doesn't find the module, how do I fix this?
[11:08] <Warbo> m0: Exactly
[11:08] <HumanPrototype> bbrazil, good - thanks for all the help. I'm off to go look at a source distro and the apt source toold
[11:08] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: sudo apt-get install opera ? is this ok ? should i install it via terminal ?
[11:09] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: As far as I can tell the commercial repo isn't used by apt, sicne it doesn't get added to sources.list. There must be a reason for this, but basically it restricts you to Add/Remove
[11:09] <keithhhh> To run windows in ubuntu do I install VMware Server for Linux??
[11:09] <m0> Warbo: guess what:) http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/pool/main/g/gset-compiz/
[11:09] <m0> The page you requested is no longer here.
[11:09] <m0> your basic 404 error
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> !vmware > keithhhh
[11:09] <ramin> i dont know
[11:09] <ramin> I am trying WINE
[11:09] <debuntu> keithhhh, not the server, just the normal one
[11:09] <kakado> smack, modules are placed in /lib/modules/*kernel* - I dont know the details
[11:09] <ramin> for my windows programs
[11:10] <Warbo> keithhhh: To RUN WIndows in Ubunt uget vmware-player, but I don't think that will let you install Windows in it so you may need the server
[11:10] <Herb> i have installed Flashplayer, Opera(i think), and real player, so i can stream non-ogg music, plus i changed my default boot sequence...
[11:10] <loko555> hello, i try to mount my encrypted harddrive but i get the message: ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument. can somebody help me out please?
[11:10] <keithhhh> debuntu: cool thanks
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> warbo: i am downloading its .deb file
[11:10] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: Well that should work just as well
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: install it from the repositories
[11:10] <ramin> what is VMware
[11:10] <debuntu> ramin, a devil's tool to keep ppl dependant upon the devil himself
[11:10] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i cant
[11:10] <ramin> oh
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> why not?
[11:11] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i dont know the reason
[11:11] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyX: If it is missing dependencies then either Gdebi will sort them out, or if you install it with dpkg run "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix dependencies
[11:11] <Herb> oh yeah,, and i installed XChat..... couldn't figure out that GAIM client
[11:11] <ramin> so, pretty much, let windows stuff run
[11:11] <debuntu> ramin, it's a virtual machine, so yeah
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: add the commerical repo to /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera
[11:12] <Warbo> !info wine
[11:12] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[11:12] <ramin> thanks
[11:12] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: i use gnome. is opera for kde ??
[11:12] <Herb> also, my windows partitions are now mounted, and have an Icon on the desktop
[11:12] <Warbo> Opera uses QT
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> no, opera doesn't care what you use.
[11:12] <ramin> I am looking forward to running live messenger in there
[11:12] <debuntu> Herb, hot diggity .. what else?
[11:13] <debuntu> ramin, why?
[11:13] <Herb> no crashes!
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> ramin: you should check http://appdb.winehq.org to see how well your application is supported, if you plan to use wine to run it.
[11:13] <ramin> okay
[11:14] <ramin> that's true