[12:00] <[nrx] > heh
[12:00] <airox> btdownloadheadless would also work
[12:00] <galactus> I need some help here, ubuntu did not recognised my sound, from ABIT NF7-S2, what can I do?
[12:01] <[nrx] > galactus, www.alsa-project.org
[12:01] <WeirdAl> that's well handy
[12:01] <WeirdAl> cheers xuesheng
[12:01] <galactus> thank you nrx
[12:01] <[nrx] > np
[12:01] <xuesheng> how do you decide which /etc/init.d script gets started on boot up?
[12:02] <[nrx] > xuesheng chmod -x /etc/init.d/file
[12:02] <eyequeue> xuesheng:  man update-rc.d for explanation
[12:02] <[nrx] > removes them from startup
[12:02] <xuesheng> eyequeue: thanks -- that's what I was looking for
[12:02] <eyequeue> np
[12:02] <xuesheng> [nrx] : simple as it could be ;)
[12:03] <[nrx] > yup :)
[12:03] <[nrx] > easy peasy
[12:03] <eyequeue> xuesheng:  actually, his will disable them completely, not just at startup
[12:03] <osity> Temporary failure in name resolution    <------ how do i get rid of this error when trying to restrt ssh
[12:03] <xuesheng> eyequeue: yeah, I can't /etc/init.d/whatever start if it's -x -- I'll read that mapage for more
[12:04] <eyequeue> xuesheng:  +x them again, before going too far :)
[12:04] <[nrx] > xuesheng, yeah. -x is a very lazy and sometimes dangerous way of doing it :)
[12:04] <airox> Why doesn't gdm allow logins with password containing & chars ?
[12:05] <[nrx] > im off to bed.
[12:05] <[nrx] > nite all
[12:06] <djp> any python programmers here?
[12:07] <dabugas> any one know a gnome program capable of handling excel files?
[12:08] <tvelocity> dabugas, openoffice, gnumeric
[12:08] <dabugas> tvelocity: oh, thanks
[12:08] <dabugas> i'd forgoteen i had openoffice
[12:09] <bi3zt> is there somewhere a channel about vsftpd ?
[12:11] <knoppix> I need to grep /dev/hda1. but when I run 'grep foo /dev/hda1', I simply get "binary file /dev/hda1 matches"
[12:13] <airox> Is there some possiblity to get evolution working with hotmail ? Like it fetches everything from hotmail ??
[12:13] <knoppix> airox:  Probably not.
[12:13] <knoppix> airox:  But, really, why would you want to use hotmail?
[12:14] <blueyed> sorry, had to restart.. :/ (the CD seemed to hang). Would there be any chance to have some kind of dump? (I was thrown back to some textmode and am using the Live version)
[12:14] <airox> knoppix, I have my reasons (security related).
[12:14] <knoppix> Anyone in here familiar with data forensics?
[12:14] <mackid> airox, get a gmail account..
[12:14] <airox> i already got one.
[12:14] <osity> airox: do i need to add something to the hosts file for ssh?
[12:15] <airox> and also have other accounts.
[12:15] <airox> osity, Can you ping google.com for example ?
[12:16] <airox> osity, What's the contents of the hosts file ?
[12:16] <osity> the internet works on that mahine
[12:16] <calvin> anyone else having a problem with Frozen Bubble in Hoary?
[12:16] <osity> i just chaged the ip to an internal one.
[12:16] <knoppix> calvin: try 'killall esd'
[12:16] <osity> instead of DHCP i set it up as manual ....
[12:17] <phxguy> Question: has anyone had any success with using thier ipod shuffle with the new version of gtkpod??
[12:17] <calvin> knoppix, thx, i tried it but still get "segmentation fault" when i try to run frozen-bubble
[12:18] <mak> hey, all, I have the hoary preview, its currently downloading like 306 updates. are those the array 7 updates?
[12:19] <osity> local host file just has loopback address
[12:20] <calvin> anyone else able to run Frozen Bubble in Hoary?
[12:20] <blueyed> What was the player called again? anamarok?
[12:21] <mjr> calvin, lemme see
[12:21] <bi3zt> who knows vsftpd and can tell me some things  ?
[12:21] <Sniper^> does anybody know if TDA9800 sound chip for FM tuner cards is supported in horray?
[12:22] <phxguy> mark, my synapic is only showing 12 update to be done
[12:22] <confrey> hi everybody
[12:22] <airox> bi3zt, hit us/me!
[12:22] <airox> hi confrey
[12:22] <blueyed> ah, amarok.
[12:22] <osity> airox is it a problem if I change the ip in the network settings?
[12:22] <mdke> can someone give me a hand? I need a list of the dependencies of the package "speedtouch" from universe. Can anyone do this for me? Would appreciate version numbers too, if so please let me know if its hoary or warty
[12:22] <confrey> when will hoary be stable?
[12:22] <calvin> april 6th
[12:23] <calvin> last i heard
[12:23] <mak> phxguy, are you talking to me?
[12:23] <airox> osity, No.
[12:23] <mjr> calvin, seems to run ok
[12:23] <randabis> confrey, April 6th
[12:23] <blueyed> calvin, is it possible to upgrade from a preview then? or better to have a clean install?
[12:23] <calvin> yes, upgrading from preview should be no problem
[12:23] <calvin> i just upgraded from Warty
[12:23] <phxguy> mark you were asking about updates right...... just sayin im only showing 12 updates iz all
[12:23] <calvin> that's the beauty of Debian based systems
[12:24] <randabis> you'd just need to do an apt-get update, followed by an apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <blueyed> Great. I'm enjoying it a lot already! :)
[12:24] <randabis> yeah it rocks
[12:24] <calvin> you should never have to reinstall
[12:24] <phxguy> Ok one more time.....Question: has anyone had any success with using thier ipod shuffle with the new version of gtkpod??
[12:24] <mak> randabis, that's all you woudl need to do in warty to get to hoary?
[12:24] <blueyed> I did not even install yet.. using the live cd..
[12:24] <calvin> although on occasion you might find it quicker to reinstall than hunt down a problem...
[12:25] <randabis> mak, no, you'd need to change /etc/apt/sources.list first
[12:25] <calvin> but i have never resorted to a reinstall
[12:25] <confrey> I'm working with qdvdauthor; I think there is  problem; I started the creation of dvd, but nothing happen; top tell me there are two istances of qdvdauthor, about 47% and 46%; what can I do?
[12:25] <mak> randabis, would you recommend that at this point? is it stable enough for general use?
[12:26] <randabis> depends on what you mean by stable
[12:26] <mak> hmm... well, i suppose if they say hoary will be out April the 6th, it might be worth it to wait?
[12:26] <blueyed> at least the live cd just hang itself the 2nd time here.
[12:26] <blueyed> yes, mak
[12:26] <randabis> if you mean, will it crash a lot, then yes, it's perfectly stable, and has been for months
[12:27] <mak> lol
[12:27] <randabis> err, I mean that it doesn't crash
[12:27] <mak> ok, that sounds better
[12:27] <randabis> I've been using hoary since early february
[12:27] <osity> airox it just started working with ssh!! :)  although i did change anything.....
[12:28] <mak> i have it on my laptop, but it still has issues... like shutting down for one
[12:28] <ubuntoid> mak, What kind of issue shutting down?
[12:29] <mak> ubuntoid, it doesnt seem to be able to do that. it just kind of freezes and I just have to hit the power button
[12:29] <ubuntoid> mak, Oh, okay... I just installed it on mine, but haven't really gotten to the shutdown point yet
[12:29] <mak> I'm hoping this set of 306 updates might fix that
[12:29] <phxguy> what iz a kernel panic???
[12:29] <airox> osity, yahoo! :D
[12:30] <airox> phxguy, It means the computer will blow within 10 seconds.
[12:30] <andril> hello all
[12:30] <airox> 306 updates ...
[12:30] <phxguy> lol
[12:30] <airox> wow :D
[12:30] <airox> hi andril
[12:30] <andril> who els is liking the new GDM?
[12:30] <phxguy> seriouly though.... I have gotten a coupllle kernel panic when shutting down....
[12:30] <randabis> I had 499 updates yesterday
[12:30] <airox> andril, Which new GDM ?
[12:30] <andril> airon: what's up
[12:31] <randabis> I hadn't updated this machine in some time though
[12:31] <mak> i thought 306 was somethign
[12:31] <andril> the new Hoary GDM setup
[12:31] <airox> 36 updates waiting for me ...
[12:31] <supos> how can a file that is suid root do something different when run as a regualr user than when run as root?
[12:31] <Zugot> hoary has been pretty good to me lately
[12:31] <airox> but it complains about some eavesdropper because it can't find my mouse :
[12:31] <airox> :S
[12:31] <phxguy> andril: Whats new about it??? I have it but really notice anything new
[12:31] <mak> so, does that mean, those are the updates with the current work being done with hoary, or are those just security updates?
[12:31] <Zugot> just wish i could get everything working with amd64
[12:31] <dabugas> buhbye
[12:32] <phxguy> didnt notice i mean
[12:32] <conffrey> I'm working with qdvdauthor; I think there is  problem; I started the creation of dvd, but nothing happen; top tell me there are two istances of qdvdauthor, about 47% and 46%; what can I do?
[12:32] <osity> airox....so now it wont let me transfer files there from a windows client.  Permissions?
[12:32] <blueyed> Zugot, what problems do you have with amd64?
[12:32] <Zugot> conffrey, you could try searching the qdvdauthor mailing list
[12:32] <airox> osity, You want to use sftp ?
[12:33] <Zugot> blueyed, a few vmware issues...  and i can't use my vpn software.  other than that, it isn't too bad
[12:33] <osity> airox: Im not sure what that is.... im using winscp to login
[12:33] <Zugot> blueyed, but i need actually work on this laptop, so i've switched back to x86 for the short term
[12:33] <airox> osity, Could be sftp isn't enabled. Check for sftp in the sshd_config file.
[12:34] <osity> what is that?
[12:34] <blueyed> Zugot: ok, I'm waiting for my box to arrive. I suppose you are on Hoary?
[12:34] <airox> osity, sftp can be disabled.
[12:34] <xuesheng> is sshd on by default with ubuntu?
[12:34] <Zugot> blueyed, of course... the new hoary is pretty good
[12:34] <airox> xuesheng, no.
[12:34] <Zugot> xuesheng, openssh-server isn't installed by default
[12:34] <osity> xuesheng ...i wish....no
[12:34] <xuesheng> ok, I got a little affraid there :P
[12:35] <airox> hehe
[12:35] <blueyed> what's kfmclient?
[12:35] <xuesheng> I'm downloading hoary right now, call me a convert in a few hours...
[12:35] <blueyed> amorak uses it as a default browser.
[12:35] <will> mmm i like nero linux!
[12:36] <osity> airox : where is the sshd_config file.
[12:36] <airox> osity, /etc/ssh/ :)
[12:36] <elmaya> nerolinux sucks ass
[12:36] <andril> phxguy: it looks more like Ubuntu is being reborn - beautiful!
[12:36] <knoppix> I'm grepping a partition, and I've found the deleted files that I want to recover (they're text files, so they're easy to reconstruct), but I can't figure out how to find the file contents.  grep has found the file names of the deleted files, but nothing more
[12:37] <knoppix> elmaya: It's on its first release; it _might_ improve with time.
[12:37] <BuffaloSoldier> good morning
[12:37] <BuffaloSoldier> *yawn*
[12:37] <airox> evening BuffaloSoldier
[12:37] <knoppix> Any grep gurus about?
[12:37] <bi3zt> does every user have his own bash ?
[12:38] <zyga> bi3zt: ?
[12:38] <bi3zt> and what happens if it gets deleted ?
[12:38] <BuffaloSoldier> hi airox
[12:38] <blueyed> knoppix, ask.
[12:38] <scott> where do I find out what the latest version of a package is in ubuntu over the web? (I don't have it installed)
[12:38] <airox> bi3zt, Every user can login and then use bash. It's just a program.
[12:38] <osity> airox : ok ...config fiels open ...what am i looking for?
[12:38] <knoppix> scott: apt-cache policy foo
[12:38] <zyga> bi3zt: sudo rm `which bash` && bash
[12:38] <airox> bi3zt, It interpretes commands in order to let the user do useful stuff.
[12:38] <knoppix> scott: where "foo" == "the name of the program you want"
[12:38] <bi3zt> but why is it in the home dir of a non priviledged user then ?
[12:39] <airox> bi3zt, The program doesn't reside in the home dir of a non privilideged users.
[12:39] <scott> knoppix, I'm not running ubuntu. I'm trying to find out what it has to decide if I want to install it
[12:39] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  what is it that you are worried about in your $HOME ?
[12:39] <airox> (don't mind my english, to much beer)
[12:39] <geppy> scott: Ah, yes.  Are y ourunning Linux, or Windows?
[12:39] <zyga> bi3zt: it's probably in /bin or /usr/bin
[12:39] <scott> geppy, livecd for gnome2.10
[12:39] <bi3zt> well i'm trying to fix a ftp server in linux and when i login there is this 2 files with bash in the name
[12:39] <airox> scott, Tried the livecd ?
[12:39] <geppy> scott:  I suppose thta you could go to the package lists, and just read through them, in the repositories.
[12:40] <scott> so actually, I guess I am actually running ubuntu
[12:40] <airox> bi3zt, You can safely delete them.
[12:40] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  and a dot in front, right?
[12:40] <geppy> scott: heh =)
[12:40] <bi3zt> y
[12:40] <zyga> bi3zt: .bashrc and .bash_profile ? ;]
[12:40] <scott> there's no package search page?
[12:40] <bi3zt> y that r them :O
[12:40] <geppy> scott: There is, let me look for it.
[12:40] <mak> wow,the new updates are pretty sweet
[12:40] <airox> scott, apt-cache search <search term> and there is offcourse synaptic.
[12:40] <airox> Just get yourself a live cd ;)
[12:40] <airox> and enjoy.
[12:41] <warty> just a line
[12:41] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  your home directory is where you store per-user configuration data
[12:41] <geppy> Way to pay attention, airox!
[12:41] <airox> geppy, ??
[12:41] <geppy> scott: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/
[12:41] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  those files are your configuration for the shell, not something to worry about
[12:41] <bi3zt> and the shell is the user ?
[12:42] <thriller> hallo :)
[12:42] <airox> bi3zt, The shell is a program that interprets commands given by the user.
[12:42] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  no, the shell is the shelll, the user uses the shell to get things done
[12:42] <maxchee> does HAL work with kernel 2.4.x?
[12:42] <airox> thriller, hi.
[12:42] <thriller> is anybody German here?
[12:42] <osity> airox : ok ssh config file is open ...what do i change to enable sftp?
[12:42] <bi3zt> that is what i mean, but what did those files do there ?
[12:42] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  those files are your configuration for the shell, not something to worry about
[12:42] <osity> I can login in but cant copy over files
[12:42] <airox> osity, Check if there is something like /usr/lib/sftp-server
[12:43] <maxchee> are there any virtual pc software that support kernel 2.6 (other than vmware)
[12:43] <Akira> god i hate telus
[12:43] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  they store your personal preferences, and modifying them allows you to change the behaviour of the shell
[12:43] <bi3zt> is it possible with vsftpd to let a user b somewhere else ?
[12:43] <bi3zt> not in the home ?
[12:43] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  read through them and you will see they are not a danger to you
[12:43] <kyncani> maxchee: qemu ?
[12:44] <maxchee> kyncani:performance?
[12:44] <airox> bi3zt, When a user is created unix copies some files from /etc/skel to the new home dir of the user. Those files are part of it on your system.
[12:44] <osity> airox : nothing in there like that.  everything seems to be commented
[12:44] <kyncani> maxchee: good
[12:44] <maxchee> kyncani: and does it support windows?
[12:44] <maxchee> kyncani: does it require i686?
[12:44] <airox> osity, Nice!
[12:44] <kyncani> maxchee: i don't support windows
[12:44] <kyncani> :)
[12:44] <airox> osity, Then ubuntu ships a default secure config ;)
[12:44] <maxchee> kyncani: it doesn't support hosting windows, right?
[12:44] <osity> hehe
[12:44] <kbrooks> airox, and no, unix does not copy
[12:45] <kyncani> maxchee: qemu does support windows i think (but i don't)
[12:45] <osity> so how do I get in there?
[12:45] <airox> kbrooks, ok. adduser does .
[12:45] <airox> osity, add this to sshd_config: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/ssh/sftp-server
[12:45] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  what gave you the idea that those files were a danger to you?
[12:46] <bi3zt> well : i just don't like having people watch those files :P
[12:46] <shnastybiznastic> what do I have to add in to the mount command to let users view and read from it?
[12:46] <airox> osity, Check if /usr/lib/ssh/sftp-server exists btw.
[12:46] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  watch them?
[12:46] <maxchee> airox?
[12:47] <bi3zt> hehe
[12:47] <airox> maxchee, ?
[12:47] <maxchee> airox: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:47] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  iyou can chmod them to 600 if you like, though i don't see why
[12:47] <airox> maxchee, getting sftp to work ?
[12:47] <kbrooks> shnastybiznastic, -o users,uid=username,gid=group
[12:47] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  chmod 600 ~/.bash*
[12:47] <kbrooks> fill in username and group
[12:48] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  no sudo on that
[12:48] <bi3zt> k
[12:48] <kbrooks> shnastybiznastic, you might want to add umask=022
[12:48] <eyequeue> bi3zt:  then only you can read or write to them
[12:48] <shnastybiznastic> kbrooks, thanks.  what's the default group id for the user that's created when you install?
[12:48] <kbrooks> shnastybiznastic, *checks*
[12:49] <eyequeue> shnastybiznastic:  1000
[12:49] <eyequeue> shnastybiznastic:  same as uid btw
[12:49] <maxchee> can anyone give me a list of usable pc virtualization softwares that support running windows on linux?
[12:49] <maxchee> with kernel 2.6 and i586 architecture (not i686)
[12:49] <kbrooks> maxchee, qemu, vmware, bochs, plex86
[12:49] <eyequeue> wine seems to be the default
[12:50] <stephen-> Hi everyone, I was hoping someone could help me with my partitioning delema.. would you like me to explain?
[12:50] <blueyed> maxchee, Wine is not an emulator and VMWare (or was it Virtual PC)?
[12:50] <kbrooks> eyequeue, wine isnt pc virtualization sw
[12:50] <eyequeue> wtf does that term mean then?
[12:50] <maxchee> bluefoxicy: wine is more like an implementation of win32 api on linux
[12:50] <kbrooks> sw -- software.
[12:51] <kbrooks> eyequeue, pc virtualization means like emulating HARDWARE
[12:51] <osity> airox:  i got bad configuration error when restarting ssh....where was I supposed to write that  Subsystem part
[12:51] <eyequeue> kbrooks:  he said windows, which isn't hardware
[12:52] <gangalino> I'm having problems getting Totem to work
[12:52] <airox> osity, on a seperate line.
[12:52] <airox> osity, Could you give me the exact error ?
[12:52] <kbrooks> eyequeue, no, but it means monitor
[12:52] <kbrooks> etc
[12:52] <kbrooks> net card
[12:52] <gangalino> everytime I start it, I get "Failed to create a GStreamer play object"
[12:52] <kbrooks> etc etc etc etc etc
[12:52] <osity> I put it right at the bottom of the file....
[12:53] <eyequeue> windows means monitor?  okay, i don't live on your planet apparently
[12:53] <airox> *sigh*
[12:53] <kbrooks> eyequeue, grrrrrrrrr
[12:53] <kbrooks> no
[12:53] <airox> slap him kbrooks ! ;)_
[12:53] <kbrooks> eyequeue, did i imply that? no
[12:53] <osity> Airox :    bad configuration option : Susbsystem
[12:54] <Positron> Good evening. :)
[12:54] <airox> osity, Subsystem it is. not Susbsystem
[12:54] <kbrooks> eyequeue, windows does not mean monitor
[12:54] <airox> evening Positron
[12:54] <eyequeue> kbrooks:  desist with the violence, and i'll recommend you reread your own words, goodbye, i don't need this
[12:54] <tritium> hello Positron
[12:54] <Positron> hi there!
[12:54] <Positron> whazzup? :)
[12:54] <kbrooks> fuck him
[12:54] <Positron> Me?
[12:54] <kbrooks> no
[12:54] <Positron> a.
[12:54] <kbrooks> euequeue
[12:54] <airox> Positron, We have some bitch fights.
[12:55] <Positron> i se.
[12:55] <airox> ;)
[12:55] <Positron> see.
[12:55] <Positron> :>
[12:55] <osity> Airox :    bad configuration option : Subsystem 1 bad configuration option
[12:55] <Positron> Anyway, Ive got a problem to resolv. :)
[12:55] <osity> i had is spelled right..just a typo in here
[12:56] <Positron> erm, after i set up my chroot environment...
[12:56] <airox> osity, Have to go now. Just got a word from my boss. Need to work tomorrow.
[12:56] <Positron> there popout a new mount called .dev.
[12:56] <airox> :(
[12:56] <Positron> do you know what is all about?
[12:56] <osity> ok thanks ....have a good weeekend!
[12:57] <airox> ... ty ;)
[12:57] <airox> Happy easter for some of you!
[12:57] <kbrooks> i think ill delete gentoo and free up the space
[12:57] <Positron> Ubuntu is the right choice! :>
[12:58] <Positron> Anyway, any ideas?
[12:58] <Positron> Gonne to /dev/null ?
[12:59] <Positron> Cmon...stay with me..
[12:59] <xuesheng> is it possible to play dvds with totem-gstreamer ?
[12:59] <xuesheng> encrypted ones that is
[12:59] <kbrooks> Positron, not daring to make indentical boots
[12:59] <kbrooks> Positron, i need another distro!
[12:59] <mjr> dih dum, upgrading to hoary on my laptop too...
[12:59] <benjanet> when i try to burn an audio CD on K3B from mp3, i get a message of "unsupported format".  :W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:01] <kbrooks> mak: run apt-get update
[01:01] <mak> ok
[01:02] <ells> tritium: I need a little assistance
[01:02] <gangalino> anyone got Totem running?
[01:02] <tritium> ells, what's up?
[01:02] <pvoce> anyone else run into this with nvidia-glx drivers?  "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0""
[01:03] <ells> tritium: I reparitioned and installed and the video card is not set up right
[01:03] <tritium> ells, which one?  I forget what you have.
[01:03] <ells> tritium: nvidia
[01:03] <tritium> it seems everyone and their brother is having nvidia trouble today
[01:03] <pvoce> tritum: no kidding
[01:04] <tritium> pvoce, but I'm not...
[01:04] <ells> tritium: I hear ya
[01:04] <tritium> calvin was in here earlier with the same problem as pvoce
[01:04] <tritium> ells, are you having pvoce's problem also?
[01:04] <ells> tritium: whats his problem
[01:04] <tritium> ells, scroll up
[01:05] <Positron> Heyho, is it normal to have a directory called /.dev after dchroot intallation?
[01:05] <pvoce> I dbt think its xog.conf, as both load dri and load glx are uncommented
[01:05] <ells> tritium: I cant, I just got onhere
[01:05] <pvoce> er...xorg.conf
[01:05] <tritium> oh, yeah, I see now
[01:06] <ells> tritium: what was his issue
[01:06] <ells> tritium: the resolution seems to be set low or something
[01:06] <tritium> pvoce, care to share it again?
[01:06] <mjr> Positron, yeah, it's basically the /dev before udev takes over
[01:07] <pvoce> sure..I get the following error when initiated some applications:
[01:07] <pvoce> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[01:08] <ells> tritium: can you help me fix it
[01:08] <pvoce> both "load dri" and "load glx" are uncommented, and both nvidia kernel source and driver are same versin
[01:08] <tritium> ells, possibly
[01:08] <ells> tritium: what should I do first
[01:09] <tritium> pvoce, usually you comment out "GLcore" and "dri"
[01:09] <blueyed> anyone using amarok? it has a "Engine" config tab, but there are no engines in the dropdown (like xine or gstreamer).
[01:09] <tritium> ells, but you can't get into a gnome-session?
[01:09] <ells> tritium: I am logged in, but the resolution seems low
[01:09] <xuesheng> blueyed: are there no amarok-engine packages?
[01:09] <Positron> mjr: Ok, tnx. I'm just asking beacause after I've rebooted i couldn't login with normal user...and that /.dev (which wasn't there before) was really suspicous. :)
[01:10] <Zugot> whats the newest nvidia module version?
[01:10] <tritium> pvoce, that error is in your /var/log/Xorg.0.conf?
[01:10] <tritium> 6629
[01:10] <Zugot> damn... i still gotta wait
[01:10] <tritium> no biggie
[01:10] <ells> tritium: how can I up the resolution
[01:11] <tritium> Zugot, it's not like something is wrong with it
[01:11] <|QuaD-> april first is almost upon us
[01:11] <WeirdAl> what?
[01:11] <tritium> ells, I don't suppose you backed up your old xorg.conf ?
[01:11] <WeirdAl> Why?
[01:11] <blueyed> xuesheng, I've seen the the last time, but must have been from universe probably.
[01:11] <rowan> Hey guys, remember my troubles? Permission problems and the like after a fresh install?
[01:11] <ells> tritium: nope, I did a total reinstall, sorry
[01:11] <Zugot> tritium, yes there is something wrong with it... it doesn't display 1280x800 on my laptop
[01:11] <tritium> ells, you're the reinstall master ;)
[01:11] <ells> tritium: wish I would have though
[01:12] <ells> tritium: this is the lsat
[01:12] <tritium> ells, okay, paste it on pastebin
[01:12] <ells> okay
[01:12] <rowan> Well, I managed to find another copy of Ubuntu, this one of a mag cover cd. It has exactly the same problems as my other copies...
[01:12] <ells> tritium: sorry to ask, but where is it kep
[01:12] <ells> kept
[01:12] <tritium> ells, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <pvoce> Tritoch|L: its not showing....I just get a "Cant Creaet Window...exiting" error
[01:12] <tritium> pvoce, I never got a reply from you
[01:13] <rowan> Anyone think of a reason I might be having these problems?
[01:13] <ells> tritium: pastebin.org?
[01:13] <Jentoo000> i havent went in my ubuntu for a while now.. lol did the new release come out yet?
[01:13] <tritium> ells, please
[01:13] <tritium> Jentoo000, not until April
[01:13] <pvoce> sheesh...I cant type tontie:(
[01:13] <rowan> Gnome fails to log me in because it doesn't have permission to write to my home directory
[01:13] <ells> tritium: okay
[01:14] <WeirdAl> have people been talking to me or something?
[01:14] <Jentoo000> tritium: i think im going to try to install wine ;)
[01:14] <tritium> ells, poor AZ has to play Illinois now
[01:14] <Jentoo000> tritium: I'm a newbie but i know what im doing
[01:14] <tritium> Jentoo000, you might like wine and winetools off of winehq
[01:14] <ells> tritium: they are playing now
[01:14] <rowan> Jentoo000, you stuck on Optus shit-band too?
[01:14] <tritium> Jentoo000, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:14] <tritium> ells, I know
[01:14] <Jentoo000> rowan: lol why is it shit?
[01:14] <pvoce> Tritoch|L: do I need to comment out the "load glx" statement ?
[01:15] <tritium> pvoce, no, you need that one
[01:15] <rowan> Jentoo000, because I only get 3.5KB/s
[01:15] <Jentoo000> i have optus cable
[01:15] <pvoce> tritium: I thought so
[01:15] <blueyed> xuesheng, I think it's bad to have amarok packages in the default repositories, but the engine in universe..
[01:15] <ells> tritium: it is there
[01:15] <tritium> ells, url?
[01:15] <rowan> Jentoo000, so am I.
[01:16] <ells> sorry
[01:16] <Jentoo000> my limits finished :(
[01:16] <Jentoo000> where do i open up  Synaptic
[01:16] <tritium> pvoce, I had asked if that error was in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[01:16] <ells> http://www.pastebin.com/263170
[01:16] <rowan> anyone give me any advice?..
[01:17] <Jentoo000> tritium: where do i open up Synaptic
[01:17] <tritium> Jentoo000, are you on Hoary?  I don't remember for Warty.
[01:17] <ells> tritium: did you see the url
[01:17] <Jentoo000> umm i forgot i think warty
[01:17] <tritium> Jentoo000, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager in hoary
[01:17] <tritium> Jentoo000, if you're in Warty, look under Computer
[01:18] <tritium> ells, yes, just multitasking ;)
[01:18] <Jentoo000> im just going to do it by console
[01:19] <ells> tritium: cool
[01:19] <tritium> ells, 8 to 4
[01:19] <ells> tritium :sorry
[01:19] <tritium> ells, first, you're using the "nv" rather than "nvidia" module
[01:19] <calvin> so anyone have any ideas why i might be getting a "segmentation fault" trying to run Frozen Bubble?
[01:20] <ells> tritium: how to fix
[01:20] <calvin> i'm starting to suffer from withdrawal
[01:20] <tritium> calvin, any luck with nvidia?  pvoce is having similar troubles
[01:20] <tritium> ells, drop down to a v.c.
[01:20] <ells> okay
[01:20] <grogoreo> hi
[01:21] <Guilmon> and the nvidia driver :)
[01:21] <mak> anyone know why i'm not able to get 'acroread' in hoary?
[01:21] <rowan> Anyone know why after a fresh install the user created at startup doesn't have write permissions on their home directory?
[01:21] <grogoreo> i have a Radeon 9600 pro card and want to know how I can get the drivers working for it. Can I use apt?
[01:21] <rowan> This has hapened on all three of my copeis of ubuntu
[01:21] <tritium> mak, you need ftp.nerim.net repository.  see ubuntuguide.org for more info
[01:22] <mak> ok. thanks
[01:22] <tritium> sure
[01:22] <funky> hi
[01:22] <funky> where must i set the modules that i want to load at boot time ?
[01:22] <Guilmon> 1650FPS with my GeforceFX 5200 card :)
[01:23] <Guilmon> using default size of the window
[01:23] <tritium> funky, /etc/modules
[01:23] <Guilmon> oh excuse me.. 1722 FPS
[01:23] <yahalom> i installed kernel 2.6.11-1-386 and now everytime i log in it freezes, i'm in failsafe mode now
[01:23] <yahalom> can someone help me?
[01:23] <grogoreo> how can i see if I am using XFree86 or Xorg?
[01:23] <tritium> yahalom, 2.6.10-5 is the latest supported kernel
[01:23] <funky> tritium: thanks
[01:23] <yahalom> tritium: so how do i revert what i did?
[01:24] <tritium> yahalom, what architecture are you on?
[01:24] <tritium> funky, sure
[01:24] <yahalom> tritium: how do i uninstall 2.6.11
[01:24] <yahalom> 386
[01:24] <tritium> yahalom, let's first install a new kernel
[01:24] <St0n3-C0l> yahalom: Same problem here :)
[01:24] <St0n3-C0l> Use default one
[01:24] <St0n3-C0l> thats better
[01:24] <yahalom> ok
[01:24] <tritium> yahalom, sudo apt-get install linux-386
[01:24] <rowan> in 30 seconds I'm going to wipe Ubuntu and install Fedora... there is no point hanging around using a system that doesn't install correctly.
[01:24] <yahalom> tritium
[01:25] <tritium> rowan, it does install correctly
[01:25] <yahalom> i'm using xchat from the console
[01:25] <tritium> what's the problem?
[01:25] <yahalom> how can i open a new console so i can do the commands?
[01:25] <tritium> yahalom, can you switch to another?
[01:25] <Skaaa> this question is not related to ubuntu, but I need help resolving a seperate problem dealing with dual monitors
[01:25] <rowan> tritium, yes, from three diff CDs, all have the same troubles on first boot
[01:25] <tritium> yahalom, you're not in X?
[01:25] <tritium> rowan, did you check their md5sums?
[01:25] <yahalom> tritium: no, x freezes
[01:25] <yahalom> tritium: i'm in failsafe mode
[01:26] <rowan> Eh?
[01:26] <umibozu> there are xfce4 packages for hoary ?
[01:26] <tritium> yahalom, okay.  Alt-RightArrow to get to the next V.C.
[01:26] <Skaaa> can someone assits me with a problem I am having with dual monitors?
[01:26] <tritium> or Ctrl-Alt-F2, or F3-F6
[01:27] <tritium> rowan, when you downloaded the .iso images, did you verify that the md5sum was correct?
[01:27] <rowan> tritium, two of the CDs where ordered from the ubuntu site, and one is a cover cd from a mag.
[01:27] <tritium> rowan, okay
[01:27] <inter_> I moved my harddrives from SATA to regular IDE last night and have been unable to get linux to boot properly after the switch.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I can do to get linux to boot again? (updated fstab and grub already)
[01:27] <yahalom> tritium: its not doing anything
[01:27] <tritium> rowan, perhaps you need a kernel boot paramater such as noacpi or noapic
[01:27] <pvoce> ok...back
[01:27] <pvoce> tritium: where were we?:)
[01:27] <yahalom> tritium: i think i tried installing the kernel again as u mentioned and it told me that i already have the latest one
[01:27] <tritium> yahalom, oh, right, you're in single-user mode
[01:27] <tritium> pvoce, one momnt
[01:27] <tritium> moment
[01:28] <yahalom> tritium: yep
[01:28] <ells> tritium: do you want me to let it autodetect
[01:28] <rowan> tritium, what do they do?
[01:28] <tritium> yahalom, when you quit xchat, do this:  sudo apt-get install linux-386
[01:28] <pvoce> tritium: np
[01:28] <yahalom> tritium: is it possible that when i'll do that it will say that i already have the latest version?
[01:29] <tritium> rowan, noacpi disables acpi.  nolapic disables local apic.  You say it just freezes when booting?
[01:29] <tritium> yahalom, I don't know.  Do you have 2.6.10-5 installed?
[01:29] <tritium> pvoce, so what's your status?
[01:29] <yahalom> tritium: it was my previous kernel, then i update to 2.6.11-1
[01:29] <rowan> tritium, no... it never freezes. There are permission errors once they are sorted out the gnome desktop is all barfed, only 3 fonts are usable
[01:30] <tritium> yahalom, there are no linux-restricted-modules-2.6.11, so it's not really supported, especially if you need nvidia or ati
[01:30] <pvoce> tritium: nothings changed. Still the same "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." error
[01:30] <tritium> yahalom, I'd just dpkg --purge it
[01:30] <tritium> pvoce, okay, sorry...
[01:30] <ells> tritium: do you want me to enable the kernel framebuffer
[01:31] <tritium> rowan, I've never heard of that happening to anybody so far
[01:31] <Tekmaven> hey guys
[01:31] <tritium> ells, no
[01:31] <rowan> :(
[01:31] <Jentoo000> i tried editing my nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and this came up E: Malformed line 21 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[01:31] <Jentoo000>
[01:31] <ells> okay
[01:31] <yahalom> tritium: what do u mean? i dont know ho wto use the dpkg command t remove things ;(
[01:31] <tritium> Jentoo000, you have a syntax error somewhere
[01:31] <Tekmaven> got a quick questoin about apt/dpkg/etc
[01:31] <tritium> yahalom, how about apt-get remove --purge linux-2.6.11
[01:31] <Jentoo000> tritium: man how am i going to fix it now
[01:32] <tritium> (provide the correct package name)
[01:32] <tritium> Jentoo000, paste is on pastebin and somebody can help you find the error
[01:32] <Jentoo000> pastebin?
[01:32] <ells> tritium: should I enable the GLCore by default
[01:32] <tritium> ells, no!
[01:32] <yahalom> tritium: k man. i'll try it, if not i'll be back. thanx. i appreciate it
[01:32] <ells> tritium: cool
[01:32] <tritium> ells, no GLcore and no dri
[01:32] <rowan> tritium, I'm going to install Fedora, I don't think there is much chance of this working. Perhaps next release.
[01:33] <tritium> rowan, you might want to try the latest Hoary install CDs rather than that Warty CD you have
[01:33] <Tekmaven> mono and all of its various packages are the stable 1.0.x version in the Ubuntu repositories... but i'm running a CVS version of mono... and I'd liek to install an app that depends on mono, and of course apt wants to install the older version of mono
[01:33] <ells> tritium: okay
[01:33] <Jentoo000> tritium: whats a pastebin?
[01:33] <mak> tritium, my update manager now has a couple of 'woody' packages. is it wise not to get those?
[01:33] <tritium> ells, you need to provide all the resolutions you want, too
[01:33] <rowan> tritium, I have to wait for a hard copy to be available
[01:33] <tritium> Jentoo000, www.pastebin.org
[01:33] <Tekmaven> is there a way that i can mark the mono packages as installed, but not actually install them?
[01:33] <tritium> it's a website for pasting things so we can review them
[01:33] <tritium> rowan, sorry...
[01:33] <rowan> tritium, thanks anyhow, later
[01:33] <Jentoo000> tritium: sites under construction
[01:34] <tritium> mak, like Acrobat 7.0
[01:34] <tritium> ?
[01:34] <Tekmaven> i believe it's www.pastebin.com
[01:34] <Tekmaven> lol
[01:34] <tritium> Tekmaven, thanks
[01:34] <FishCrossing> yeah, I already have windows xp on my computer, im gonna partition the hard drive so ubuntu can use 30 gigs, do I need to use a bootloader? Or can i just partition, pop in the cd, istall, and have dual os's?
[01:34] <knoppix> Is it possible to tell grep to being its selection with a certain string, and end it with another?
[01:34] <mak> tritium, libdv4
[01:34] <tritium> mak, one second
[01:34] <knoppix> as far as I can tell, you can only start the selection with a certain string, and then set the length to be selected (in lines)
[01:35] <Jentoo000> so i write down what the problem is??
[01:35] <mak> it says New version: 0.103-woody2
[01:35] <Jentoo000> and ill get a response?
[01:35] <Tekmaven> FishCrossing: ubuntu includes the "GRUB" bootloader, you should be fine.
[01:35] <dex1> Hi, I'm still struggling with the Ubuntu install. I was in here yesterday and've now managed to reboot after the custom install (custom becaus it's an old system w/small HD & low RAM). I'm trying to follw this guide: http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html. The pacakage installing part "apt get ..." threw me as the PC has no modem connection. But someone in here pointed me to a repository and I now have the pacakges (deb files) burned on CD;
[01:35] <FishCrossing> So, I just partition, pop in the cd, restart, follow instructions, and all will be well?
[01:35] <ells> trituim: I started it over, cause I think I enabled something I shouldnt have. should the memory in kb, be 64000
[01:35] <tritium> mak, yeah, those are in ubuntu main
[01:36] <mak> so they're ok
[01:36] <tritium> mak perhaps you're not using the right repo
[01:36] <Tekmaven> can anyone address my question?
[01:36] <tritium> ells, I have only 5 minutes left before I have to get going
[01:36] <mak> well, i think i'll hold off on  them for now
[01:36] <Tekmaven> mono and all of its various packages are the stable 1.0.x version in the Ubuntu repositories... but i'm running a CVS version of mono... and I'd liek to install an app that depends on mono, and of course apt wants to install the older version of mono... is there a way that i can mark the mono packages as installed, but not actually install them?
[01:36] <dex1> I googled for help and it suggested "mount /mt/cdrom" but I just get "mount: can't find /mt/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab".
[01:36] <ells> tritium: I hear ya
[01:36] <Tekmaven> dex1: you need to tell mount where to mount the cdrom ;-)
[01:37] <dex1> tek: Ah, thank you.
[01:37] <tritium> ells, the important things are documented in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
[01:37] <ells> okay
[01:37] <tritium> ells, and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/
[01:37] <dex1> tek: Anytime you feel like giving more specific info is good for me. *grin*
[01:37] <bleb_> hi, does hoary support pcmcia network swapping as easily as, say, winslows XP? (and how is it possible to make it "scan new hardware" after the installation?)
[01:37] <Tekmaven> dex1: try: mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[01:37] <Tekmaven> then
[01:37] <pvoce> ugh...I think I found it...the dang card is listed as PCI, even though its an AGP card
[01:37] <Tekmaven> mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[01:38] <dex1> Ubuntu is really not as user-friendly (at least on older PCs) as I'd hoped. Okay, trying those mount commands now :)
[01:38] <tritium> pvoce, no, that's fine
[01:38] <Tekmaven> then, ls /mnt/cdrom and you should see the cdrom files :-)
[01:38] <knoppix> If noone here can help, is there somewhere where I could go for help with grep?
[01:38] <pvoce> ugh...then why does it crated whenever I hit the OpenGL?
[01:38] <knoppix> e.g. and IRC channel
[01:38] <tritium> knoppix, man grep?
[01:39] <bleb_> thoughts?
[01:39] <dex1> bingo
[01:39] <knoppix> tritium:  Been there. =/
[01:39] <dex1> :)
[01:39] <ells> tritium:  Write default DRI section to configuration file?
[01:39] <knoppix> tritium:  I'm wondering if it's possible to do a to-from type thing with grep.
[01:39] <tritium> ells, go for it
[01:39] <knoppix> tritium:  I'm grepping for a string, but I want to be able to take output all the way up to the time a next string is found.
[01:40] <knoppix> tritium:  What do I need to do to do that?
[01:40] <yahalom> tritium: thanx man it worked. really appreciate it. saved all my work and now my wife wont kill me either. be well ;)
[01:40] <dex1> I see the files listed that're on the CD. Is there a sort've wildcard option to install all packages there on the CD?
[01:40] <ells> tritium I will restart now
[01:40] <tritium> ells, okay.  I'll get going soon.  If I don't see you, take care.
[01:40] <tritium> ells, bookmark that URL!  ;)
[01:40] <ells> okay, cool
[01:40] <will> how do i remove all the kubuntu stuff through synaptic?
[01:41] <tritium> knoppix, sorry, I am on my way out the door.  I suggest you read the manpage more carefully
[01:41] <scott> anyone know what the root password is on the ubuntu livecd?
[01:41] <|QuaD-> will: i can tell you how to do it through apt
[01:42] <knoppix> This answer isn't in the manpage.  I'm assuming that grep doesn't have this functionality.
[01:42] <will> |QuaD-: yes thanks that works for me!
[01:42] <Jentoo000> with the pastebin site do i just copy paste my error or do i explain my error/
[01:42] <knoppix> does anyone know of a program that I could use to make a selection between "string1" and "string2" from input?
[01:42] <dex1> scott, trying both just pressing enter and also using the password that you set for the user pwd when it asked
[01:42] <scott> dexl, this is the gnome 2.10 live cd actually, and it never asks for a user pwd
[01:43] <dex1> It asks me and then after a few times one of those works
[01:43] <|QuaD-> will: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4
[01:43] <dex1> scott: Then ignore my advice. :)
[01:43] <dex1> ls
[01:43] <knoppix> scott:  Does sudo not "just work"?
[01:43] <dex1> oops
[01:43] <bleb_> does hoary support pcmcia network swapping as easily as winXP? (and how is it possible to make it "scan new hardware" after the installation?)
[01:43] <knoppix> scott:  I haven't used it, but, obviously, I'm on knoppix right now, and sudo "just works" on knoppix
[01:44] <pvoce> brb...restarting X
[01:44] <bleb_> anyone?
[01:45] <blueyed> does synaptic put logfiles somewhere?
[01:45] <blueyed> I've installed amarok without universe repository and though it depends on amarok-engines this had not been installed..!?
[01:45] <geneo93> var log ?
[01:45] <blueyed> this is a bug isn't it?
[01:46] <dex1> So having mounted the CD in the drive using mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom (having made a directory with mkdir /mnt/cdrom), I can list the files on that CD via ls /mnt/cdrom - the dev files. Is there a way I can install them all with a wildcard option or something? "install /mnt/cdrom *.*" or suchlike?
[01:46] <geneo93> no you need depends
[01:46] <dex1> *deb not dev
[01:46] <blueyed> geneo93, what do you mean?
[01:47] <dex1> ls
[01:47] <geneo93> you cant install sonething without all the libs and other things it needs
[01:47] <WeirdAl> Can someone give me an example of how to add a new launcher to my Applications > System tools menu in Hoary purleeze?
[01:48] <WeirdAl> I believe it's different from warty
[01:48] <FishCrossing> do you need a bootloader if you install ubuntu on a windows pc
[01:48] <FishCrossing> ?
[01:48] <WeirdAl> No
[01:48] <WeirdAl> Well you do, but it'll install GRUB for you
[01:48] <blueyed> but it installed amarok and amarok-arts, but amarok also depends on amarok-engines, geneo93.
[01:48] <geneo93> FishCrossing:  yes
[01:49] <blueyed> So this looks like a bug, doesn't it?
[01:49] <geneo93> well you need the other files it requires
[01:49] <FishCrossing>  so if I have a partition for ubuntu, I install ubuntu to that partition, and I follow all the directions properly, everything should work?
[01:50] <WeirdAl> Scratch the system tools thing -- it's already there! :)
[01:50] <geneo93> FishCrossing:  yes
[01:51] <eruin> WeirdAl: in the future
[01:51] <eruin> , /usr/share/applications/ is the place to look
[01:51] <FishCrossing> and when I partition i have to partition it to be a FAT32 partition?
[01:52] <WeirdAl> thanks
[01:52] <dex1> fish, not the linux one no
[01:52] <geneo93> FishCrossing:  ext3 but the installer will do that for you
[01:52] <blueyed> Can I use different locales / languages for different users when I install Ubuntu?
[01:52] <FishCrossing> the installer will partition for me?
[01:52] <dex1> gene is correct.
[01:52] <dex1> fishcr. yes.
[01:53] <geneo93> dex1:  dont you know about tab complete
[01:53] <SiRrUs> good evening guys
[01:53] <dex1> geneo: My experience with *nix period let alone just Ubuntu began ... yesterday.
[01:54] <dex1> Hence my installation questions. :)
[01:54] <geneo93> well most irc clients do it
[01:54] <dex1> I did the same thing as Fish was trying to do though (dual boot partitions)
[01:54] <calc> welcome to eunuchs
[01:54] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to get the gaim away window to minimize?
[01:54] <dex1> gene: you lost me sry.
[01:54] <geneo93> dex1:  i have 7 oses on this box
[01:55] <dex1> I'm using Trillian on a Windows platform anyway.
[01:55] <geneo93> well that should support tab complete
[01:55] <dex1> which IS?
[01:55] <mackid> geneo93, 7 OS's?
[01:56] <geneo93> mackid  yes
[01:56] <SiRrUs> geneo93 which ones
[01:56] <geneo93> 4 nix and 2 beos and win98se
[01:56] <mackid> geneo93, wow.. lol.  get rid of win98se :-P.. win2k is the only way to go if you NEED windoze
[01:57] <mackid> =P
[01:57] <CarlK> is there a .deb for webmin?
[01:57] <geneo93> suse mandrake slack ubuntu phosb5 and R5
[01:57] <DemonTears_> anyone know how to print arabic font ?
[01:57] <eruin> how about apt-get install webmin? :P
[01:57] <geneo93> mackid:  not for me i dont use it much
[01:57] <crimsun> geneo93: sorry, not familiar with Kppp
[01:57] <CarlK> that better not work...
[01:58] <eruin> CarlK: it's in universe
[01:58] <nickweb> hey guys and gals.. does anyone know how to register for the shipit section?
[01:58] <CarlK> hmm, I thought I had that enabled
[01:58] <geneo93> crimsun:  is there a way to see output after connect
[01:58] <crimsun> geneo93: for...?
[01:58] <FishCrossing> wait, so I dont have to do anything in windows xp? I can just download the disk image to my windows xp desktop, burn the disk image, restart my computer, follow instructions, and i'll be able to have to os's?
[01:59] <CarlK> guess not - thanks eruin
[01:59] <geneo93> crimsun:  after it connects it disconnects
[01:59] <pepsi> ping
[01:59] <CarlK> pug
[03:00] <geneo93> then redials
[03:00] <thingy> FishCrossing, i assume your not talking about using the live cd and so please back up anything you value in windows xp before you go on with the installation.
[03:00] <crimsun> geneo93: check /var/log/daemon.log
[03:00] <geneo93> k
[03:00] <geneo93> i've been using pon and poff
[03:00] <FishCrossing> but if everything goes right should it work that way?
[03:01] <WeirdAl> can anyone tell me: a) should qtparted be able to resize NTFS partitions and b) if not, what can I use instead?
[03:01] <dex1> So now I'm at the point (post reboot after custom install) where I have the packages [.deb ]  on CD and can show the files on it via ls /mnt/cdrom. How do I install them all?  :/ The tutorial I was following was for a connected PC so I had to divert from the whole apt get thing.
[03:01] <crimsun> WeirdAl: there's ntfsresize, but I can't recommend it.  It would be safer to boot using a Partition Magic boot disk.
[03:01] <geneo93> WeirdAl:  use diskdrake
[03:01] <mackid> nothing in windows xp should be valued.. pft.
[03:01] <|QuaD-> would it be useful to make a apt plugin for beagle?
[03:01] <WeirdAl> I can use a PM disk but most of my friends can't...
[03:01] <WeirdAl> I'll look into diskdrake.
[03:01] <dex1> mack: His documents sharing the XP partition are probably valued by him.
[03:02] <WeirdAl> :-)
[03:02] <crimsun> |QuaD-: I'm sure _someone_ would find it useful.
[03:02] <mackid> dex1: okay, fair enough
[03:02] <dts> i have a laptop and i want to boot the live cd but it doesn't boot on my external cd drive
[03:02] <|QuaD-> crimsun: hmm, maybe once the developers put beagle in, thats what i will make
[03:02] <WeirdAl> Is it in a repository?
[03:03] <geneo93> dts:  doesn't f12 give you boot options
[03:03] <scott> does the ubuntu install cd come with anythign that can resize fat32 partitions?
[03:03] <nickweb> dts, does you're motherboard support booting from external devices?
[03:03] <geneo93> scott:  yes
[03:03] <blueyed> How can I get the build of Ubuntu?
[03:04] <dex1> My guess of "install /mnt/cdrom/*.*" doesn't work for the deb files on the CD. It complains the last argument isn't a directory.
[03:04] <WeirdAl> The flamin' diskdrake site's not working.
[03:04] <dts> geneo93, nickweb i tried all kinds of boot options and it supports to boot of it
[03:04] <Zugot> that status of beagle is still up in the air
[03:04] <dts> the kernel loads but it can't access the cd drive
[03:04] <scott> geneo93, what?
[03:04] <Zugot> cool concept... not stable enough to be practical yet
[03:04] <nickweb> dts, i have had similar problems (different distros tho).. Download something called Smart Boot Manager
[03:04] <nickweb> and boot from the floppy, then select youre external drive..
[03:05] <dex1> blueeyed: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:05] <geneo93> qparted scott
[03:05] <calc> install is not for packages
[03:05] <blueyed> dex1, I want to know the build number/version I'm actually using.
[03:05] <scott> geneo93, so during the ubuntu install it will run qparted and I can resize my windows partition before installing ubuntu?
[03:05] <nickweb> dts, http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:05] <dts> nickweb, the problem is not that the kernel wont boot but the program tries to populate from the boot cd from hd[a-d]
[03:05] <calc> its part of coreutils its mean to copy files directly
[03:05] <geneo93> yes scott
[03:06] <calc> s/mean/meant/
[03:06] <WeirdAl> geneo93, can you suggest somewhere to get diskdrake other than linux-mandrake.com/diskdrake? I can't seem to find it.
[03:06] <dts> nickweb, do you understand what i mean? I can actually load the kernel and i get a basic prompt from the cd
[03:06] <dts> nickweb, but it doesn't mount /dev/sda and load it
[03:06] <geneo93> scott just hope you know how
[03:06] <dex1> calc: The tutorial [http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html]   mnadated I use apt-get install blahpackagename. Being as that PC has no modem connection I instead had to burn the .deb packages onto CD on anbother PC and the CD's now in the drive of the installation PC.
[03:07] <dex1> But although I can ls /mnt/cdrom the files I can't install them
[03:07] <dex1> any ideas?
[03:07] <crimsun> does /mnt/cdrom have a Packages.gz ?
[03:08] <geneo93> dext it not mnt its media
[03:08] <dex1> crimsun: not that I know of?
[03:08] <calc> dex1: ah i thought you meant just "install"
[03:08] <Artanis> this is interesting. my videolan client shows the video, but without sound, and totem plays sound and doesnt show the video
[03:09] <calc> dex1: install the program is not part of apt-get
[03:09] <calc> apt-get install is different
[03:09] <geneo93> dex1:  did you do apt-get addcdrom
[03:09] <WeirdAl> crimsun, how risky is ntfsresize?
[03:09] <geneo93> WeirdAl:  you can loose all
[03:10] <dex1> calc: I do want to install them. From the CD. So that I'm done with the CD with the six deb files on. :( But no matter how many times I try to RTFM through Google, the Ubunti wiki etc. I get nowhere. I can't use apt-get because the installation PC has no modem connection. It's an old PC hence the low RAM custom install :(
[03:10] <crimsun> WeirdAl: I can't speak for its stability, but someone I know was careless with it and destroyed his ntfs partition.
[03:10] <WeirdAl> oh. I don't want that then.
[03:10] <crimsun> WeirdAl: then again, if one is careless with any tool, it can be detrimental.
[03:10] <WeirdAl> I'm getting a 550 error when I try to get diskdrake, and I can only seem to find one source for it :-(
[03:11] <kdp> has anyone noticied that gconf is beginning to resemble a registry?
[03:11] <geneo93> kdp:  i dont use it
[03:12] <kdp> is it only a gnome thing?
[03:12] <geneo93> yes i use kubuntu
[03:12] <dex1> heneo: No, the apt-get command won't help since that PCs not connected to the 'net or online period. I've mounted the CD - the CD I burned with the deb files on it but have no idea how to install the darn things
[03:12] <dex1> *geneo
[03:13] <calc> dex1: there are cdrom lines for the apt sources.list file
[03:13] <geneo93> dex1:  you dont need connection for apt to work if files are local
[03:13] <calc> but if it is just a cd you burned with random debs that won't work
[03:13] <calc> you would need to use dpkg -i
[03:14] <kdp> a very disturbing development....
[03:14] <dex1> cacl: it is just a CD I burned with random debs, yep. Those cited in the guide for older PCs needing a low diskspace/RAM install
[03:14] <dex1> "dpkg -i /mnt/cdrom/*.*" or something?
[03:15] <geneo93> dex1:  dpkg -i filename
[03:15] <slurpas> i cant play any .mp3 or .avi files with xmms or totem.. maby i need some codex.. can i apt-get them?
[03:15] <geneo93> cd into that dir
[03:16] <calc> if you used dpkg-scanpackages or apt-ftparchive you could setup a repo on your hd that you could at and use apt-get
[03:16] <kdp> slurpas: with the marillat repo
[03:16] <dex1> does it allow wildcards like *.deb? The filenames are long, basically there's six on the CD plus a further bunch in a subdirectory of the same CD.
[03:16] <calc> slurpas: install totem-xine from universe
[03:16] <calc> dex1: tab completion works as well
[03:16] <geneo93> calc:  he needs to get them off cdrom
[03:16] <dex1> Cool, I'm in the /mnt/cdrom directory now.
[03:16] <calc> dex1: eg type dpkg -i (first letter)[tab]
[03:16] <shank_> hi calc
[03:17] <dex1> calc: I have no idea what tab completion means sorry.
[03:17] <calc> dex1: hit tab
[03:17] <calc> actually on a empty line hit tab twice and see what it does
[03:17] <slurpas> hmm..
[03:17] <slurpas> apt-get install totem-xine ?
[03:17] <dex1> On the PC I'm typing this on (ie. the one w/out ubuntu on it). ok, after the colon: _d4vid
[03:17] <geneo93> dex1:  put a few of the first letters in name of
[03:17] <calc> then try a[tab]
[03:17] <slurpas> *noob*
[03:18] <kdp> slurpas: just installing totem-xine wont get you proprietary codecs
[03:18] <calc> well probably a then two tabs to make it complete
[03:18] <kdp> see the ubuntu wiki page for more
[03:18] <calc> kdp: it won't?
[03:18] <calc> xine plays them
[03:18] <slurpas> ok..
[03:18] <kdp> calc: didnt work for me....
[03:18] <calc> kdp: hmm ok
[03:18] <slurpas> so there is no "all package codec" ? :(
[03:18] <kdp> there is...in the marillat repo
[03:18] <slurpas> what is that?
[03:19] <kdp> see the ubuntu wiki page, search for "restricted formats"
[03:19] <slurpas> thx
[03:19] <kdp> calc: me too.....
[03:19] <Uscfan> hey everyone
[03:19] <dex1> Seems to be working . It did something anyway when I tabbed after the letter 'i'. It complained errors were encountred with uninstalled libs though. ah well. I'll try playing around with it
[03:20] <andy__> gday everyone..how do i delete a folder that says i am not the owner
[03:20] <kdp> the regular repos only support free codecs, right? so that would mean mp3, a proprietary codec, wouldnt be in universe or multivetrse
[03:20] <calc> kdp: i don't have anything special installed other than totem-xine here
[03:20] <kdp> thats weird......
[03:20] <Uscfan> i am a linux nurdnoob and i wanna know if anyone knows how to make gnome sexy!
[03:20] <geneo93> dex1:  you need the libs installed first
[03:20] <Uscfan> i am familiar with kde, but like, what is metacity and all that
[03:20] <calc> i probably can't play dvd's though ;)
[03:20] <kdp> calc: yeah, ud need libdvdcss2
[03:21] <calc> kdp: yep i know, i noticed i didn't have that installed which is why i doubt i can play dvd :)
[03:21] <kdp> damn U.S. govt!
[03:21] <calc> but i can play mp3/divx/etc
[03:21] <geneo93> kdp:  get it anyway
[03:21] <Vjaz> Uscfan: Metacity is the GNOME window manager
[03:21] <kdp> hahaha i did
[03:21] <kdp> a long time ago
[03:21] <kdp> just a random damnation
[03:22] <Uscfan> ok so gnome is not a window manager?
[03:22] <geneo93> kdp:  may need dvdread also
[03:22] <kdp> uscfan: correct, gnome is a desktop environment
[03:22] <sharp> i'm having trouble with getting wireless to work
[03:22] <Uscfan> oh yeah, my friend thinks that gnome is pronounced gah-nome
[03:22] <Uscfan> isnt it like garden gnome
[03:22] <kdp> geneo93: i have dvds workingg :-)
[03:22] <calc> Uscfan: it is
[03:22] <geneo93> ahh ok
[03:22] <calc> Uscfan: er gah-nome
[03:22] <Uscfan> it is?
[03:23] <Uscfan> guhnome
[03:23] <kdp> now, y would it be pronounced that way.....so weird
[03:23] <calc> though i like garden gnome better ;)
[03:23] <Uscfan> me too
[03:23] <calc> its pronounced like gnu
[03:23] <calc> since it stands for gnu ....
[03:23] <kdp> lol
[03:23] <calc> gnu network object model environment (iirc)
[03:23] <Uscfan> gnu is not gnome
[03:23] <kdp> gnu's not unix!
[03:23] <geneo93> kinda like knife
[03:23] <Uscfan> gnu is like new
[03:23] <calc> and gnu is prounouced gah -new
[03:23] <sharp> ubuntu freese at "* Configuring network interfaces"... what should i do
[03:23] <Uscfan> g is silent
[03:23] <Uscfan> really?
[03:24] <kdp> wait, really to who
[03:24] <Uscfan> ok so enough of this weird talk lmao
[03:24] <Anubis> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main are these dead?
[03:24] <crimsun> gnu-like, like calc said.
[03:24] <Uscfan> my laptop will not install gnome
[03:24] <crimsun> guh-new
[03:24] <xuesheng> do you get that annoying popup dialog when running the root terminal in hoary?
[03:24] <Uscfan> it freezes at some sort of ACPI something orother
[03:24] <Uscfan> it doesnt even get to the installer
[03:24] <Uscfan> :(
[03:24] <DemisM> and latex is pronounce latech :(
[03:24] <Uscfan> and i have about 150 ubuntu cd;s i cant even install it
[03:24] <Uscfan> oops
[03:24] <DemisM> I pronounce it lateks
[03:24] <kdp> .......150?
[03:25] <syn-ack> Its La Tech
[03:25] <Servo888> Doesn't ubuntu have a gui installer? The debian one works fine, but just thought it would have something better =\
[03:25] <syn-ack> with a hard a
[03:25] <Uscfan> Ok correction, I cannot install UBUNTU, my laptop freezes during the boot before the installer at some sort of Power something or other, any ideas? will the latest version of ubuntu (5.x)work???
[03:25] <crimsun> Servo888: ubuntu's installer is based on debian sarge's
[03:25] <WeirdAl> crimsun, is ntfsresize what it uses when you edit the partition tables at install time?
[03:25] <crimsun> Uscfan: tried the hoary preview?
[03:25] <Uscfan> no ma'am
[03:26] <Servo888> crimsun, yup that's what it looks like.
[03:26] <WeirdAl> The website suggests it is but I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly.
[03:26] <calc> Uscfan: have you updated the bios on your laptop if available/
[03:26] <Uscfan> what improvments does hoary have
[03:26] <calc> Uscfan: many laptop bios are crummy
[03:26] <WeirdAl> And I know that warty didn't support it.
[03:26] <Uscfan> calc: mine is kinda crummy too, compaq 2195US but compaq's have tons of problems anyway
[03:26] <kdp> Uscfan: ooooooo let me count the ways...a biggie: more updated packages
[03:26] <crimsun> WeirdAl: hoary has apci updates
[03:26] <Uscfan> lol
[03:26] <calc> Uscfan: compaq regularly update their bios so they may have better ones
[03:26] <crimsun> WeirdAl: err, sorry
[03:27] <Uscfan> ok ill give hoardy a try, but the sad thing is is have around 250 ubuntu CD's
[03:27] <crimsun> Uscfan: hoary has acpi updates
[03:27] <WeirdAl> It happens.
[03:27] <Uscfan> of the origional warty
[03:27] <kdp> wait, you went from 150 to 250
[03:27] <Uscfan> original*
[03:27] <Uscfan> i kow
[03:27] <kdp> thats quite alot
[03:27] <Uscfan> i have 150 x86
[03:27] <Uscfan> or 170 i think
[03:27] <calc> Uscfan: give them to other people, warty works on plenty of systems out there
[03:27] <kdp> r u @ USC?
[03:27] <Uscfan> and then PPC and AMD
[03:27] <kdp> and distributing them?
[03:27] <Uscfan> no im nto at usc, i am just north of LA
[03:27] <Uscfan> i want to distribute them, but where
[03:28] <kdp> hahaha, try USC?
[03:28] <calc> Uscfan: at your LUG?
[03:28] <Uscfan> lol i wish i had a lug
[03:28] <kdp> colleges
[03:28] <calc> or compsci classes, etc
[03:28] <Uscfan> w0ot i shall give them away
[03:28] <geneo93> Uscfan:  take them to the library
[03:28] <calc> Uscfan: usc doesn't have a lug?
[03:28] <Uscfan> i dont go to usc
[03:28] <calc> ah
[03:28] <Uscfan> i am in high school
[03:28] <Uscfan> :\
[03:28] <kdp> ah, use the liveCD @ school!
[03:29] <crimsun> hey now.
[03:29] <Uscfan> i do
[03:29] <calc> take them to the local LUG in the city you live in
[03:29] <kdp> teach those admins something about computers
[03:29] <Uscfan> well at school i use Slax
[03:29] <Uscfan> lol
[03:29] <calc> most bigger cities at least have LUGs
[03:29] <kdp> what is a LUG? linux user group?
[03:29] <Uscfan> but ubuntu is cool, im not doggin on it
[03:29] <crimsun> kdp: yes
[03:29] <Uscfan> kdp: yes
[03:29] <kdp> ah
[03:29] <Uscfan> CLUg would be mine, Clark Linux Users Group
[03:29] <Uscfan> my high school is called Clark
[03:30] <kdp> .........you have enough people at your high school using linux to have its own group?
[03:30] <Uscfan> no
[03:30] <Uscfan> like 5 maybe
[03:30] <Uscfan> its a small school
[03:30] <steve__> anyone familiar with UT2004
[03:30] <kdp> UT2004?
[03:30] <Uscfan> mainly i use linux at school becuase our IT department are fucking morons and insalled novell on everything with restrictions and crap
[03:30] <Uscfan> unreal tournament
[03:30] <kdp> university at texas?
[03:30] <kdp> oh lol
[03:30] <steve__> kdp: yes
[03:30] <geneo93> Uscfan:  you can take cds to scholl lib then
[03:31] <Uscfan> yeah
[03:31] <Uscfan> we are a tech school
[03:31] <Uscfan> it sucks balls
[03:31] <Uscfan> but there are comps everywhere
[03:31] <dex1> So using that dpkg command from the /mnt/cdrom directory it copes fine with the 'update' deb. But with all the others, e.g. icewm it complains various libraries it's dependent upon aren't installed. The debs in question are those mentioned in the http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html guide; which I'm using since it's a low-spec PC. The debs were burnt to a CD as that PC has no modem connection so I can't use that apt-get command suggested i
[03:31] <steve__> Uscfan: I loaded it and am getting an error
[03:31] <Uscfan> loaded it into linux or iwndows
[03:31] <steve__> Uscfan: linux
[03:31] <Uscfan> hmmm
[03:31] <Uscfan> well what error?
[03:31] <steve__> Uscfan: some glx error
[03:31] <Uscfan> well i have no idea
[03:31] <Uscfan> i am not the person to ask
[03:31] <kdp> whats your graphics card?
[03:31] <dex1> How do I proceed? Connecting that old PC to the Interney isn't an option, sadly.
[03:31] <steve__> Uscfan ;I am using nviida
[03:32] <kdp> ah
[03:32] <Uscfan> i am a nooblet
[03:32] <Uscfan> i have no idea
[03:32] <kdp> steve__: did you dl nvidia-glx
[03:32] <kdp> from synaptic
[03:32] <steve__> kdp: dl
[03:32] <Uscfan> download the drivers??? nVidia is really good about linux compatibility
[03:32] <kdp> download
[03:32] <steve__> kdp: I did originally, I can see if there is an update
[03:33] <kdp> steve__: then did you run "nvidia-config-glx enable"?
[03:33] <geneo93> you need nvidia-kernel-common also
[03:33] <kdp> or "nvidia-glx-config enable" im not sure which is right
[03:33] <ells> kdp: done all taht
[03:33] <ells> that
[03:33] <Uscfan> ok so i should try the new ubuntu with my laptop?
[03:33] <ells> kdp: I am familiar with nvidia
[03:33] <Uscfan> im assuming all of you like ubuntu over all theothers??
[03:33] <Uscfan> mainly i want to be able to use my wirelss
[03:33] <ells> kdp: just a first since I reinstalled with the eror
[03:34] <Uscfan> i hate bringing my long cable in here and having to plug it in
[03:34] <kdp> ells: are you the same as steve__?
[03:34] <ells> I am one in the same
[03:34] <ells> funny how that changed
[03:34] <geneo93> well thanks
[03:34] <kdp> ells: then did you edit the xorg.conf file?
[03:35] <ells> kdp: how edit
[03:35] <kdp> to comment out "dri"
[03:35] <ells> will check it
[03:35] <kdp> and add the output of "lsmod |grep agpgar" to the hotplug blacklist?
[03:35] <geneo93> kdp:  i didn't
[03:35] <kdp> that should be "agpgart"
[03:35] <laura> hi
[03:35] <ells> kdp: under modules
[03:35] <Uscfan> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/2005/webcomp/brad-griffith.png
[03:35] <Uscfan> o m f g there was money involved
[03:35] <Uscfan> i could have raped all those desings
[03:36] <laura> just installes ubuntu on a old machin (K6/450) and i have some problems to finalize the setup
[03:36] <laura> i'd need to connet to a samba server for instance
[03:36] <kdp> ells: what under modules?
[03:36] <laura> how should I doo that? the network config tool says I have no SMB support installed
[03:36] <Uscfan> has anyone in here insalled ubuntu on a G4??? could you tell of your experiences
[03:36] <xc> hello
[03:37] <ells> kdp: comment out # dri
[03:37] <laura> Uscfan, I used a livecd on my MacMini, works fine...
[03:37] <Uscfan> is it faster thjan osx
[03:37] <WeirdAl> OK bye everyone. Thanks for the help... I'm sure I'll be back for more tomorrow :-)
[03:37] <Uscfan> and how do you like your mini???
[03:37] <kdp> ells: ah yes
[03:37] <ells> kdp: thanks
[03:37] <laura> Uscfan, well... I still use OS X on my macs, it depends on what you want to do with it
[03:37] <Uscfan> i have an ipod and as many others, i might switch over because of apples awesome stuff
[03:37] <kdp> make sure it looks like #dri, then do the blacklist
[03:38] <kdp> ells: no
[03:38] <kdp> *np
[03:38] <xc>
[03:38] <ells> kdp: blacklist?
[03:38] <laura> if you need the fastest environment ever, a linux with a lightweight GUI (like fluxbox) would be faster than OS X for sure
[03:38] <kdp> ells: the thing i said to do a couple lines ago, about the output of lsmod
[03:39] <ells> okay
[03:39] <geneo93> laura:  kde is faster than osx
[03:39] <laura> but if you want a machine to work efficiently, to not spend time on crazy hardware issues, OS X is definitelly better
[03:39] <laura> geneo93, i still prefer OS X over KDE
[03:40] <geneo93> mac lovers
[03:40] <laura> geneo93, i simply like things that works fine and as intended
[03:40] <laura> I NEVER had a crash with OS X...
[03:40] <seraphiel> how do I make the nvidia-driver to work in ubuntu
[03:40] <ells> kdp: now that lsmod is done, what next
[03:40] <HappyPills> how do I do multipage printing with Cups?
[03:40] <laura> anyway, may I get help here for my network config?
[03:41] <laura> what's the easiest way to access a SMB volume from a bare ubuntu system?
[03:41] <geneo93> laura:  i'm not good for network stuff but you need samba client first
[03:41] <xc> Can ubuntu works well with IBM xseries server, including SCSI and RAID?
[03:42] <laura> geneo93, yes, i've installed it with synaptic
[03:42] <laura> smbclient and it's related lib
[03:42] <laura> smbfs too
[03:42] <laura> xc, why would you use ubuntu on a server? Can't you use a classical debian?
[03:42] <geneo93> laura:  did you try as root
[03:43] <ells> kdp: you there
[03:43] <kdp> yeah
[03:43] <laura> geneo93, I thought ubuntu asks for a password when it needs it..
[03:43] <ells> kdp: what next, did the lsmod thing
[03:43] <mackid> geneo93: sudo <whatever>
[03:43] <mackid> er, laura: sudo whatever
[03:43] <geneo93> well sudo it then
[03:43] <mackid> sorry :-P
[03:43] <kdp> ells: so it gave you something like 3 things?
[03:43] <xc> laura, thanks for your reply, the machine couldn't directly touch internet, it's painful to install with network. So I prefer ubuntu.
[03:43] <ells> yeah, want to see
[03:43] <kdp> ells: agpgart, intel_mch_agp, intel_agp?
[03:44] <geneo93> just to see if permissions are correct
[03:44] <ells> kdp: agpgart                31784  2 intel_mch_agp,intel_agp
[03:44] <kdp> ells: yeah, now add those 3 things to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[03:44] <xc> I've been waiting for sarge for a long time. I have to make decision on which distro to use, I found ubuntu is not bad.
[03:45] <ells> okay
[03:45] <kdp> xc: plus debian has 7 CDS.....wtf is up w/that
[03:45] <Lithi> xc, I dont see why you couldent use it as a server. A fair ammount of people do (they have a section on ubuntuforums.org)
[03:45] <geneo93> xc:  hoary is built from sarge unstable
[03:45] <Chipzz> kdp: and you want to install debian from cd because? :P
[03:46] <kdp> Chipzz: i dont.....it just wows me...
[03:46] <ells> kdp: where at in there
[03:46] <kdp> ells: at the end of the file
[03:46] <kdp> ells: then reboot, and it should work
[03:46] <ells> kdp: okay
[03:46] <dex1> Okay, continuing the very painful experience I'm having in trying to install Ubuntu for 1st time. I've tried to install the burned deb packages from the CD. The update one works but the rest complain about libs not being there. I can't use apt-get since it's not connected to the 'net. So.... reluctantly, I'm going to  unplug the PC I'm on now from the 'net and plug the DSL modem into the old PC. If I reboot it, will it detect it and allow me to use apt-get,
[03:46] <Chipzz> kdp: no-one is doing that anyway
[03:46] <ells> kdp: what will this do
[03:46] <kdp> Chipzz: i realize that
[03:47] <xc> Yes, the server is for small business, not critical ones. I tried on a old PC, but I need a server now. But I don't know ubuntu support the hardware good enough or not:)
[03:47] <kdp> ells: this will prevent the intel modules from being loaded, and will allow the nvidia modules to be loaded
[03:47] <kdp> ells: oh crap
[03:47] <kdp> theres another thing to do
[03:47] <ells> kdp: what
[03:47] <Uscfan> im getting 150kbps steady on hoary!!!
[03:47] <Uscfan> w0ot
[03:47] <Uscfan> about an hour left
[03:48] <dex1> Does anyone know, please? I don't want to unplug the DSL modem from the Pentium4 I'm on now and plug it into the old PC unless there's a chance Ubuntu might actually allow me to USE it. :(
[03:48] <ells> kdp: what next
[03:48] <kdp> ells: in the xorg.conf, make sure in the nvidia section theres a line "Option              "NvAGP"            "1"
[03:48] <kdp> those quotes around NvAGP and 1 are important
[03:48] <ells> okay will check
[03:49] <kdp> and theres supposed to be a tab between everything
[03:49] <steve__> yeap, done
[03:49] <dex1> It's been a few hrs yesterday and quite a few more today; trying to get ubuntu installed I mean. :/
[03:49] <Uscfan> anyone using luminiosity?
[03:50] <Uscfan> luminocity*?
[03:50] <ells> kdp: done
[03:50] <ells> kdp: i just figured out that I am on in two places
[03:51] <ells> kdp; now just reboot
[03:51] <kdp> yep
[03:51] <Uscfan> oops
[03:51] <ells> okay, will do, be back in a sec
[03:51] <dex1> Okay. Giving up on this for a while. Lord knows I've tried.
[03:51] <Zugot> what app should i use to burn music cds with gnome?
[03:52] <Uscfan> gnome toaster or somethign right?
[03:52] <kdp> i believe nautilus has a burner built in
[03:52] <Uscfan> Gnome vs. KDE
[03:52] <kdp> just insert a blank cd and drag and drop?
[03:52] <cleit0n> ae alguem fala portugues ou espanhol
[03:52] <Zugot> won't that just copy the files to the cd?   i want to create a music cd..
[03:53] <HappyPills> hmm.. has anyone configured duplex printing with cups before? The option is very much grayed out for me =(
[03:53] <Uscfan> there is some website which has a big list of top rated GTK apps, called GTKapps.com or something, anyone heard of it?
[03:53] <Aghaster> hi
[03:53] <Aghaster> i need help
[03:53] <Megabyte405> gnomefiles?
[03:54] <Uscfan> no
[03:54] <Uscfan> it has GTK in it
[03:54] <cleit0n> hey mens, debian or ubuntu
[03:54] <Megabyte405> Hello... does anyone have any idea on why I get kernel errors when adding more memory?  I'd think it would be easily found on google, given that I had the problem both with my new ubuntubox and my slack laptop, but I couldn't find anything?
[03:54] <Aghaster> i've installed various versions of ubuntu on my computer, and i always got a broken login screen
[03:54] <Aghaster> except for the warty amd64
[03:54] <seraphiel> how do I install nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[03:55] <Aghaster> i got a amd64 3400+ processor, but want to install the i386 version for compatibility reasons.
[03:55] <Aghaster> but i keep getting a broken login screen each time i install ubuntu
[03:55] <Megabyte405> seraphiel: see ubuntuguide.org, instructions there work great.
[03:55] <cleit0n> quit
[03:56] <Uscfan> Magabyte: ubuntu is debian with a nicer first appearance
[03:56] <Aghaster> do anyone knows this problem or could refer me to a forum thread where they talk about it?
[03:56] <Uscfan> anyone use MEPIS
[03:56] <Uscfan> ?
[03:56] <Aghaster> note: kubuntu does the same thing
[03:56] <Aghaster> i get a broken screen for both
[03:56] <|QuaD-> Uscfan: don't use mepis
[03:57] <Uscfan> quad: why, just wondering
[03:57] <Vjaz> Uscfan: Don't forget that Ubuntu is more recent and has a faster release cycle.
[03:57] <Uscfan> roger that
[03:57] <Vjaz> Uscfan: And is not ran by a group of politicians.
[03:57] <|QuaD-> uscfan: its yucky.... use kubuntu
[03:57] <Uscfan> i like gnome more
[03:57] <narg> Hrm, I got a couple questions: Is it more hassle to nuke / and install ubuntu, or to apt-get from sid? Is it fairly easy to turn to regular root scheme?
[03:57] <Uscfan> gah-nome, hehe, but will ubuntu support most wireless cards
[03:58] <Uscfan> mine is onboard and it doesnt really have a mdel number
[03:58] <Uscfan> its internal
[03:58] <black_nightmare> hey there
[03:58] <HappyPills> hmm... psnup is the name for converting ps files to multipage right?
[03:59] <black_nightmare> any of you know if its any good thought about only adding password to root when needed then removing it...or its ok to leave root there all the times?
[03:59] <Uscfan> ooooooh it was gnome files!!!!
[03:59] <Uscfan> thanx whoever said that before
[03:59] <black_nightmare> I mean the sudo passwd root thing that is
[03:59] <Br34ch> I'm on Ubuntu, and apparently my sound card wasn't found. I'm reading the forums.. and lots of them seem to be directing to something of "alsaconf." I've tried that, but here is what I get: bash: alsaconf: command not found (I tried apt-get install alsaconf, but it says "alsa-utils is already the newest version." to that) Any help and I'd be greatly grateful :x
[03:59] <Uscfan> i got confused with gnomeapps
[03:59] <kdp> Br34ch: i dont believe alsaconf is used in ubuntu, whats ur soundcard?
[04:00] <Uscfan> 34% of ubuntu hoary
[04:01] <Br34ch> kdp: Don't know of the specifics, could you tell me of a command to determine? If not.. I can probably look up online by tracing from the serial number of the laptop and whatnot
[04:01] <Megabyte405> Br34ch: try sudo alsaconf
[04:02] <Br34ch> sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[04:02] <Megabyte405> beats me.
[04:02] <kdp> Br34ch: its the "Multimeida audio controller" of lspci
[04:02] <Megabyte405> maybe alsaconf is a file?
[04:03] <kdp> alsaconf is not used in ubuntu apparently
[04:03] <MidnightDevil> heya :)
[04:03] <narg> Hrm, is it a pain in the arse to go from debian sid to ubuntu?
[04:03] <MidnightDevil> how do i mount a local fat32 drive?
[04:03] <Br34ch> Well . . . what can I do here?
[04:03] <Uscfan> Zugot you still here???
[04:04] <Br34ch> My aim is just getting sound . . . sound card is not detected, so any hints on where I should go next would be great
[04:04] <kdp> Br34ch: post the output
[04:04] <Uscfan> Zugot: http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/index.php?cat=2
[04:04] <kdp> MidnightDevil: see www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:04] <Uscfan> a popular gnome cd burner
[04:04] <Br34ch> I'm a nub, could you please rephrase in a bit more easy terms?
[04:05] <kdp> Br34ch: in the terminal, type in "lspci" and post the line starting w/"Multimedia audio controller"
[04:05] <Br34ch> Oh
[04:05] <black_nightmare> brb
[04:05] <Uscfan> og shit, my partition dedicated to linux is only 5GB is that enough?!?!
[04:05] <|QuaD-> Uscfan: haha.... not much room to play there
[04:05] <kdp> Uscfan: you can use parted to resize
[04:05] <geneo91> Uscfan:  yes
[04:05] <Br34ch> kdp: No such thing beginning with that in there :x
[04:05] <Uscfan> yeah i have another partition which is where i will store data
[04:06] <Uscfan> FAT32 so i can share between linux and windows
[04:06] <kdp> Br34ch: now try "aplay -l"
[04:06] <Uscfan> but 5GB for programs should be fine?
[04:06] <geneo91> yes
[04:06] <inter_> I switched my hard drives from SATA to regular IDE last night and now I can't get linux to boot properly.  Does anyone know of the steps needed to change the root device so the kernel will boot.  (already updated fstab and grub)?
[04:06] <Br34ch> aplay: device_list:199: no soundcards found...
[04:06] <kdp> Br43ch: hm, then you will need to google :-)
[04:07] <geneo91> Uscfan:  just make sure you clean apt-get once in awhile
[04:07] <Br34ch> Google what exactly? I don't know where to begin . . . :x
[04:07] <Uscfan> geneo91: what do you mean
[04:07] <kdp> Br34ch: well you said you can use your serial number?
[04:07] <Br34ch> Oh
[04:07] <Br34ch> I'll get right on it, thanks for the help
[04:07] <kdp> np
[04:07] <psai_> inter_ : did u change the grub.conf and the fstab from sdx -> hdx
[04:07] <Uscfan> 45% of hoary
[04:07] <Mguel721> Anyone know how to mount a zip drive?
[04:07] <Uscfan> mkdir /mnt/zip
[04:08] <inter_> psai_, ya, no go still :(
[04:08] <inter_> psai_, I get a kernel panic
[04:08] <Uscfan> mount /dev/shittyzipdrive /mnt/zip
[04:08] <Uscfan> lol
[04:08] <psai_> inter_ did u rewrite install the mbr to the new hdd
[04:08] <psai_> ah
[04:08] <psai_> inter_ what kind of panic
[04:09] <geneo91> Uscfan:  he has to edit fstab also
[04:09] <Uscfan> yes
[04:09] <corza> hey guys any GuildWars goers in here?
[04:09] <Servo888> Hey wasn't ubuntu suppose to ask for the root password?...
[04:09] <Servo888> I sure as hell didn't set one up =\
[04:09] <inter_> psai_, unknown block (0,0)
[04:09] <ells> when I run ut2004, i get this error message. Crash information will be saved to your logfile.
[04:09] <ells> X Error of failed request:  BadColor (invalid Colormap parameter)
[04:09] <ells>   Major opcode of failed request:  79 (X_FreeColormap)
[04:09] <ells>   Resource id in failed request:  0x2e0000c
[04:09] <ells>   Serial number of failed request:  114
[04:09] <ells>   Current serial number in output stream:  116
[04:10] <geneo91> Servo888:  no its disabled by default
[04:10] <Servo888> geneo91, how do I enable it?
[04:10] <corza> Anyone here interested in Guildwars?
[04:11] <geneo93> sudo passwd root
[04:11] <ells> anyone know why I am getting this error
[04:11] <psai_> inter_ are u sure u changed the /etc/fstab currectly ?
[04:11] <kdp> ells: everything w/the card booted correctly?
[04:11] <dtudosie> is anybody printing with epson in hoary ?
[04:11] <corza> Does anyone know how to change the default program to run files??
[04:11] <inter_> psai_, psai_ pretty sure...all I should have had to do was change all s's to h's rihgt?
[04:11] <ells> kdp: seem so, but did you see the  error meessage i posted
[04:12] <kdp> ells: yeah, i dont have ne idea, sorry
[04:12] <ells> kdp: when i started ut2004
[04:12] <inter_> psai_, i actually get 2 different panics
[04:12] <psai_> inter_ :query me the whole messages plz
[04:12] <inter_> psai_, if I use the kernel param single i get pivot_root: No such file or direcotyr
[04:12] <black_nightmare> geneo...I agree about ubuntu having root off by default especially for real begineers
[04:12] <Servo888> geneo93, thanks :-) ok ubuntu is up and running :-) so far so good
[04:13] <black_nightmare> I enabled mine only because well 1. I do know a bit of what I am doing to do this kind of access  2. I understand about not using root as my main account [which most winxp users don't seem to even do]
[04:13] <black_nightmare> :p
[04:13] <geneo93> well its protects them from screwing up a lot of things
[04:14] <black_nightmare> geneo....like I said 'real begineer'
[04:14] <geneo93> well certain apps run in root can bork system also
[04:15] <geneo93> xsane for one
[04:20] <black_nightmare> hmm I see
[04:20] <black_nightmare> well I have a root password enabled and recoken I'll just leave it that way
[04:21] <Mguel721> Can anyone help me how to set = JAVA PATH
[04:21] <Uscfan> 66% of ubuntu hoary
[04:21] <mdke> hi all. whats the correct line for stab for viewing an ntfs partition by normal users? pleeeease!!
[04:21] <mdke> *fstab
[04:22] <andy__> gday everyone..am trying to delete a folder from my home directoryand keep getting this message..Cannot move "/home/andy/legends-0.4.0" to the wastebasket because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[04:22] <Uscfan> are you the user andy
[04:22] <Uscfan> sudo
[04:22] <Uscfan> and delete it
[04:22] <narg> Hrm, what is the kubuntu .deb repositery at?
[04:22] <dtudosie> I am having troubles with getting the ink level  for my epson printer; anybody has an ideea ? (mtink is freezing and escputil is saying that the printer does not respond - time out - but note that I can print w/o problems)
[04:22] <andy__> yah i am the user..and the folder has a padlock icon on it for some reason
[04:22] <narg> same as ubuntu?
[04:23] <mdke> andy__, you have to use the terminal. type sudo rm -r folder_name
[04:23] <caffinated> is there a known issue with the PPC G4 and Rage128 video cards in ubuntu? (warty)
[04:24] <geneo93> narg yes
[04:24] <xc> Why my kaffeine freeze in hoary-pre?  I'm reading the forums.. and lots of them seem to be directing to something of "alsaconf." I've tried that, but here is what I get: bash: alsaconf: command not found (I tried apt-get install alsaconf, but it says "alsa-utils is already the newest version." to that) Any help and I'd be greatly grateful :x  <--
[04:25] <geneo93> usr/share/docs
[04:26] <black_nightmare> geneo..oh ok ty...was curious where the new ones would be going as well anyhow...ty (I'm looking at  synaptic now)
[04:28] <geneo93> black_nightmare:  you could do man (app) in terminal
[04:29] <black_nightmare> geneo.. man=manual I take it?
[04:30] <geneo93> yes
[04:32] <xc> geneo93: I works well with it at first. But I made a playlist of "RMVB" files, when I open the kaffeine again, the UI freezed. And never recover again. I lose my face to my girlfriend:)
[04:33] <geneo93> xc:  see if those codecs are available
[04:33] <Mestapheles> I see that vlc-gnome has been renamed gnome-vlc which has been terminated and to use the wxvlc.  Does wxvlc work with xorg?
[04:34] <xc> Yes, they are available(I've set the path in kaffeine). And I can work with it at first(over 3 hours).
[04:34] <scott> I'm in the ubuntu install right now. I'm trying to resize a partition (will it erase all the data?) and I select my windows partition and highlight size but I don't know how to change the size
[04:35] <eyequeue> scott:  that is not a resize tool
[04:35] <scott> so how do I resize?
[04:35] <bestadvocate> hello everyone, have you noticed two instances of the "internet" folder in the applications menu?
[04:35] <xc> The totem in hoary is just can't work, for anything. I don't have much choise in linux for mutimedia. I really kaffeine would work again.
[04:35] <eyequeue> scott:  if you delete it and recreate it with a new size, it will work, but you will of course lose the data
[04:35] <black_nightmare> "for KDE" means gnome can't run it or am I wrong?
[04:36] <scott> eyequeue, I was told I could use qparted during the installation process
[04:36] <geneo93> xc:  i would use xmms myself
[04:36] <LordC> wrong
[04:36] <eyequeue> scott:  perhaps you could use gparted or qtparted from the livecd?
[04:36] <bestadvocate> no one?
[04:36] <LordC> black_nightmare, you can still run the programs, but you will need to install some kde libs for it to work
[04:36] <scott> oh, so qparted isn't on the installation cd, just the livecd?
[04:36] <black_nightmare> lordc oh...ok ty
[04:37] <eyequeue> scott:  right, pop the other one in first
[04:37] <xc> geneo93, can you play MPEG4 and RMVB in XMMS?
[04:37] <geneo93> black_nightmare:  i just did apt-get install kde
[04:37] <black_nightmare> lordc would you mean something like libkdegames1 ?
[04:37] <AcidWolf> xc Totem does work in hoary a series of g-streamer upgrades have been released yesterday so apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[04:37] <eyequeue> scott:  of course, "backup everything first" is always the rule
[04:37] <scott> I don' thave the other one :( oh well, guess I'll go download knoppix
[04:37] <eyequeue> knoppix also has gparted or qtparted, last i knew
[04:37] <black_nightmare> hmm geneo..does that install the whole kde or just the libs for it?  mind you my hd isn't that big at all here but I have some good free space for now
[04:37] <geneo93> xc:  yes
[04:37] <AcidWolf> xc Totem only started working for me yesterday :)
[04:37] <LordC> black_nightmare, Yes
[04:38] <xc> Thank you, AcidWolf.
[04:38] <AcidWolf> your welcome
[04:38] <LordC> black_nightmare, apt get isntall kde would install whole of KDE. there is no need. Just install the dependancies (ie libkdegames1)
[04:39] <geneo93> black_nightmare:  about 450 mbs after install and need to get about 175 mb to install
[04:39] <xc> Can you point some link to me to do that?
[04:40] <black_nightmare> lordc... does synaptic automatically select libs that are needed but not checked -- or no?
[04:40] <geneo93> yes
[04:40] <black_nightmare> ty...that makes it a tad easier knowing synaptic will find the libs itself for me
[04:40] <eyequeue> black_nightmare:  both synaptic and apt-get will pull in any needed dependencies
[04:41] <black_nightmare> ok ok you know what??  I need to say another thing....
[04:41] <black_nightmare> windows = really LAZYYY STUPID.  haha...  I mean well....you know *rolls eyes*
[04:41] <geneo93> black_nightmare:  kde 3.4 is real nice to look at
[04:41] <LordC> Lies
[04:41] <LordC> lol
[04:42] <corza> does anyone know how to change the default program for files??
[04:42] <ells> anyone familiar with gftp
[04:42] <black_nightmare> geneo..I kinda like gnome....quite remindful of my powerbook 145B's desktop (ok so its only for both typing and several games due to a small old processor)
[04:42] <LordC> kde is nice in the same way XP is nice.
[04:42] <geneo93> black_nightmare:  i would install the entire thing if you have space
[04:42] <corza> does anyone know how to change the default program for files??
[04:42] <corza> in my case .mp3's from totem to xmms
[04:42] <black_nightmare> lordc -- if you're missing a dll file that windows setup needs...it can't even help you with that... likewise I'm starting to think apt-get and synaptic are quite superior
[04:42] <geneo93> LordC:  no comparison even
[04:43] <LordC> geneo93, why install the whole thing, if he is using gnome, and only needs a few libs?
[04:43] <LordC> black_nightmare, agreed
[04:43] <geneo93> because kde is nicer than gnome
[04:43] <LordC> lmao
[04:43] <LordC> That is one's opinion
[04:43] <corza> geneo93: I disagree
[04:44] <black_nightmare> brb for a minute anyhow
[04:44] <LordC> geneo93, You running Kubuntu?
[04:44] <corza> geneo93: gnome uses less ram and its much more useful
[04:44] <LordC> aka UbuntuK
[04:44] <Anubis> when I open a term I get this at the top of the prompt
[04:44] <Anubis> dircolors: `/etc/DIR_COLORS': No such file or directory
[04:44] <geneo93> no its not
[04:44] <corza> yes it is
[04:44] <LordC> corza is right :)
[04:45] <geneo93> bah it sucks
[04:45] <Aghaster> i need help
[04:45] <corza> LordC: Agreed :)
[04:45] <Aghaster> i took a photo of my problem
[04:45] <Aghaster> i keep getting a broken login screen
[04:45] <corza> geneo93: Gnome sucks?? it does everything that KDE does + more just using less ram
[04:45] <Aghaster> and cant do anything else than moving the cursor
[04:45] <corza> geneo93: the only upside to KDE is "oh how pretty it looks" lol
[04:46] <geneo93> no it dont
[04:46] <corza> geneo93: if eye candy is for you then KDE is for u
[04:46] <LordC> geneo93, there is a reason Gnome is primary for Ubuntu
[04:46] <LordC> Great Useablity
[04:46] <corza> LordC: exactly :)
[04:47] <LordC> corza, true, but Gnome can be great eye candy also.
[04:47] <geneo93> hey if it didn't have python helping it its a piece of shit
[04:47] <LordC> But it does
[04:47] <corza> LordC: its true but it also uses less ram, and i'm not a believer in eye candy
[04:47] <black_nightmare> lordc ~ GTK+ or Xaw3D??  two choices for one game
[04:47] <black_nightmare> I'm not so sure myself
[04:47] <LordC> GTK
[04:47] <AcidWolf> actually Gnome can be awesome eyecandy :) like mine hehehehe
[04:47] <black_nightmare> ty
[04:47] <LordC> AcidWolf, can I see a screenshot? :)
[04:47] <dtudosie> gnome vs kde: I also got converted from kde to gnome b/c easy of use
[04:48] <LordC> I love Screenies
[04:48] <corza> AcidWolf: lmao
[04:48] <geneo93> i dont use eye candy here
[04:48] <black_nightmare> freeciv sounds nice..will have to see how it feels compared to the real Civilization II macintosh cd I have :p
[04:48] <AcidWolf> LordC sure
[04:48] <suix> hi
[04:48] <corza> dtudosie: its true!!
[04:48] <LordC> Well I actually reluctantly switched to Gnome, simply to try Ubuntu - I was instanlty hooked
[04:48] <suix> can u helpme with quake3arena?
[04:48] <black_nightmare> lol lordc when I marked it to be installed...it pop up a dialog saying I would have to install two other things too..... got to love that.. smart!
[04:48] <LordC> suix, depends on the problem
[04:48] <theantix> black_nightmare: only try freeciv 2
[04:49] <corza> All the other distros i have tried had KDE and hmm i didnt like the other distros haha
[04:49] <LordC> black_nightmare, its such a great feature isn;t it!
[04:49] <black_nightmare> lordc ya
[04:49] <geneo93> seems like gaim is using the most memory
[04:49] <ells> when I use gftp, it wont let me transfer over my music files. permission denied, and skipping
[04:49] <suix> I have no sound in game
[04:49] <LordC> black_nightmare,  The last distro I used didnt alert me of dependancies, until it fail :/ - gotta love Ubuntu :)
[04:49] <LordC> ells, Have you checked the CHMOD?
[04:49] <Uscfan> hoary preview complete
[04:49] <Uscfan> w0ot
[04:49] <ells> LordC, yes
[04:49] <Uscfan> cya guys later time to burn and install
[04:49] <corza> LordC: Nor me :)
[04:49] <LordC> Uscfan, welcome to the club
[04:50] <Uscfan> ty LordC
[04:50] <ells> LordC. I can transfer text files it seems
[04:50] <Uscfan> i will be back prolly
[04:50] <Uscfan> freaking laptop wont boot install CD
[04:50] <Uscfan> for warty
[04:50] <Uscfan> brb
[04:50] <Servo888> Hey why isn't fluxbox found when running apt-cache search fluxbox
[04:50] <Servo888> Or do I need to compile from sources?
[04:50] <corza> I havent tried a wide range of distros but this is the list i have tried: Debian, Xandros, Fedora, RedHat, Ubuntu -- Ubuntu wins hands down
[04:50] <LordC> ells, try another client, just to be sure it's the server. I recommend FireFTP - its a small FireFox plugin. Assuming that is your prefered browser.
[04:50] <ells> LordC will try
[04:51] <Fackamato> ,
[04:51] <corza> LordC: do u know how to change the default program to files?
[04:51] <kbrooks> fluxbox - Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager
[04:51] <LordC> Failed AcidWolf :/
[04:51] <Mguel721> anyone know how to set the PATH for Java?
[04:51] <kbrooks> it exists here
[04:51] <AcidWolf> lok
[04:51] <suix> classpath=---
[04:51] <Servo888> kbrooks, hmm
[04:51] <LordC> corza, yes, goto System, Preferences, Prefered Applications
[04:51] <ells> LordC. not available thru aptget
[04:52] <LordC> AcidWolf, moment, Im using a xchat config from a different user
[04:52] <AcidWolf> LordC ok
[04:52] <corza> LordC: umm i'm trying to change for .mp3 from totem to xmms
[04:52] <dts> has anyone tried to install kde-devel packages
[04:52] <LordC> ells, it's on MozDev @ http://fireftp.mozdev.org/
[04:53] <kbrooks> fuck
[04:53] <kbrooks> Servo888, ill get it for ya
[04:53] <black_nightmare> any of you played stepbill?
[04:53] <kbrooks> just a sec
[04:53] <Servo888> ok
[04:53] <corza> LordC: ?
[04:53] <LordC> AcidWolf, try again :)
[04:54] <LordC> corza, finding right program, one sec
[04:54] <AcidWolf> k
[04:54] <corza> k dude thanks
[04:54] <LordC> corza, /usr/bin/gconf-editor
[04:54] <_phreak_> Anyone have any recomendations on a binnary newsgroup reader?
[04:54] <dts> what does the synaptics message mean: "Depends: (packagename) but it is not going to be installed
[04:55] <kbrooks> Servo888, is dcc working?
[04:55] <Servo888> should be
[04:55] <Servo888> It's xchat so I'm not 100% sure
[04:56] <_phreak_> dts: is it possible that you do now have the repository for the dependency?
[04:56] <kbrooks> Servo888, ill dcc ya the file. you can find the .deb in ~/.xchat2/downloads
[04:56] <javiolo> anyone use bluez or bluesnarfer ?
[04:56] <dts> _phreak_, what do you mean?
[04:56] <Servo888> ok send them over
[04:56] <dts> _phreak_, if i look for the package it finds it so it's obviously installable
[04:57] <LordC> AcidWolf, very nice desktop xD
[04:57] <LordC> AcidWolf, shame about the low resoution you're using
[04:57] <AcidWolf> ty ty
[04:57] <Servo888> kbrooks, thanks
[04:57] <kbrooks> Servo888, just dpkg -i fluxbox_0.1.14-4_i386.deb
[04:57] <AcidWolf> 1280x854 :)
[04:58] <LordC> What's wrong with 1280x1024? :)
[04:58] <AcidWolf> im on apple g4 powerbook 15
[04:58] <kbrooks> Servo888, after you cd into the dir, of course
[04:58] <LordC> Ah
[04:58] <LordC> Fair enough
[04:58] <black_nightmare> say any of you know if it would have any harm for me to 'completely remove' openoffice?
[04:58] <AcidWolf> e-yup
[04:58] <black_nightmare> I kinda don't have any need for that
[04:58] <LordC> How does the powerbucks run Ubuntu?
[04:58] <dts> _phreak_, what do you mean
[04:58] <corza> LordC: that doesnt work??
[04:58] <LordC> black_nightmare, wouldnt hurt a bit
[04:59] <LordC> corza, the application doesnt work, or changing the setting doesn't work?
[04:59] <black_nightmare> ty lordc ~ already using Evolution,  Text Editor, gnumeric -- no need to let openoffice just stupidly sit there on hd hehe
[05:00] <Servo888> kbrooks, "fluxbox depends on menu (>= 1.5); however: Package menu is not installed." | what's the menu package called?
[05:00] <javiolo> anyone use bluez or bluesnarfer ?
[05:00] <LordC> black_nightmare, I don't use it either, just have it for the sister tbh. I figure i'll use it when Uni starts in September
[05:00] <dts> is there a cli package mannagment system too?
[05:00] <black_nightmare> lordc...hm I just am a bit baffled now... openoffice said that it would remove ubuntu-desktop if I wanted to completely remove openoffice
[05:01] <black_nightmare> now...what does the desktop thing have to DO with openoffice? :|
[05:01] <AcidWolf> powerbooks run ubuntu marvelously LordC
[05:01] <LordC> Good point black_nightmare
[05:01] <AcidWolf> but yeah im tinkering with hoary so i dont expect it to run  all that crash hott :)
[05:02] <geneo93> i dont have OO here
[05:02] <black_nightmare> I hope openoffice isn't eating up a lot of space then
[05:02] <_phreak_> it does
[05:02] <LordC> black_nightmare...
[05:02] <LordC> "Ubuntu Desktop" is a metapackage, designed to make installation and
[05:02] <LordC> upgrades easier. You can safely remove it without affecting the
[05:02] <LordC> functioning of your system in any way.
[05:02] <Guilmon> staroffice > openoffice
[05:02] <geneo93> black_nightmare:  it is
[05:02] <black_nightmare> ,
[05:02] <LordC> (pasted from forums)
[05:02] <AcidWolf> open office comes with Gnome cause gnome is a desktop that is directed more towards office users rather than KDE for people who want the eyecandy
[05:02] <black_nightmare> lordc ic so its not really related to the actual desktop?
[05:02] <binskipy2u> just installed the hoary
[05:02] <_phreak_> Anyone managed to get Klibido installed successfully in Hoary?
[05:02] <binskipy2u> its rather nice
[05:02] <LordC> Nope
[05:02] <binskipy2u> kde 3.4 is very nice
[05:02] <LordC> Sounded scarey though eh
[05:03] <Anubis> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:03] <black_nightmare> well jeeze duh.. some of the naming system that ubuntu uses is already too crazy for me
[05:03] <_phreak_> I think the whole Gnome=office KDE=eye candy isn't completly true
[05:03] <ells> does anyone in here havea clue about gftp
[05:03] <binskipy2u> anyone know how to put fluxbox on ubuntu?
[05:03] <AcidWolf> well gnome is light and KDE is big and bulky
[05:03] <_phreak_> I like Kontact, better than evolution, the only advantage is the better exchange support
[05:03] <binskipy2u> ive read alot of sites
[05:03] <binskipy2u> but cant seem to figure out how to do it
[05:03] <_phreak_> Kde isn't that bulky for the standard office workstation
[05:03] <binskipy2u> i d/l the .deb fluxbox file
[05:04] <LordC> binskipy2u, Do you know how to install the deb?
[05:04] <binskipy2u> no lordC
[05:04] <LordC> Guilmon, as am I :)
[05:04] <binskipy2u> i was looking on what to do
[05:04] <LordC> binskipy2u, as kbrooks said earlier, just dpkg -i fluxbox_0.1.14-4_i386.deb
[05:04] <LordC> You will need to sudo that command
[05:04] <_phreak_> Anyone know of a Binnary capable newsgroup reader that works well under ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:04] <javiolo> i have to type this: cd /dev && mknod --mode 666 /dev/rfcomm0 c 216 0
[05:05] <LordC> _phreak_, Pan?
[05:05] <javiolo> but i need to be root but if i use sudo doesnt work
[05:05] <javiolo> anyone ?
[05:05] <LordC> javiolo, what do you mean by it doesn't work
[05:05] <LordC> what message do you get
[05:06] <javiolo> sudo: cd: command not found
[05:06] <LordC> Maybe do it in two steps. cd /dev then type sudo mknod --mode 666 /dev/rfcomm0 c 216 0
[05:06] <AcidWolf> im pretty sure i asked this question yesterday but here goes again does anyone know where i can snag the w32codecs for ubuntu PPC
[05:07] <robl^> I don't think w32codes works on nn-x86 boxes
[05:07] <javiolo> thanks LordC
[05:07] <ells> does anyone have any experience whatsoever with gftp
[05:07] <LordC> javiolo, anytime
[05:07] <AcidWolf> ells yes
[05:08] <AcidWolf> ells ask your question
[05:08] <ells> AcidWolf, I keep getting permission denied
[05:08] <ells> AcidWolf, only on certain files
[05:08] <LordC> ells, did fireFTP work?
[05:08] <AcidWolf> check that your connecting to the right port and that your login info is correct
[05:08] <ells> LordC, did not go there yet
[05:08] <javiolo> LordC ahve you ever used bluez or bluesnarfer ?
[05:08] <LordC> ells, I really recommend trying another client, so you can see if it is the software, or the server
[05:08] <paulproteus> robl^: It does not, that's correct.
[05:08] <ells> AcidWolf. I am connected. I sent the files there before I connected and am trying to bring them back
[05:09] <LordC> javiolo, nope,s orry
[05:09] <AcidWolf> hmmmm
[05:09] <ells> AcidWolf: I did a reinstall and sent them to my other PC first
[05:09] <paulproteus> _phreak_: Do try Pan.
[05:09] <helio7> eek; xscreenserver caused a complete hang of my warty-ubuntu system, had to reset the machine; now starting firefox I got a "profile in use" error message, had to create another profile to get on, (running "top" didn't show firefox was active) any ideas of how to recover settings?
[05:09] <ells> AcidWolf.: I can only bring back some of therm
[05:09] <ells> them
[05:09] <AcidWolf> hmmm
[05:10] <ells> AcidWolf. I checked all the permissions per folder;
[05:10] <AcidWolf> can you see them are they visible
[05:10] <ells> AcidWolf: yeap
[05:10] <black_nightmare> lordc what would this one be for now? 'language-support-en'
[05:10] <ells> AcidWolf: some are skipped and some flat out wont let me transfer them
[05:11] <LordC> black_nightmare, I think that one is actually the support for English for Ubuntu
[05:11] <Aghaster> http://free.hostdepartment.com/a/alphacentaurihq/brokensrc2.JPG
[05:11] <eyequeue> helio7:  there is a lockfile you can rm under your old profile, under ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[05:11] <black_nightmare> lordc --- hrm and the  openoffice language wants to remove THAT??
[05:12] <black_nightmare> strange once again...guess I'll leave them there
[05:12] <Aghaster> i keep getting that broken screen when ubuntu loads : http://free.hostdepartment.com/a/alphacentaurihq/brokensrc2.JPG i cant do anything but move the cursor. i have no access to any gnome or kde environment from there
[05:12] <helio7> eyequeue, ahh thanks that makes sense... because of thecrash the lockfile says the profile's still in use right?
[05:12] <eyequeue> helio7:  quit ff and compare the two dirs, the filename should be obvious, i don't recall it offhand
[05:12] <eyequeue> helio7:  exactly
[05:12] <Aghaster> could anyone take a look? its a serious problem : http://free.hostdepartment.com/a/alphacentaurihq/brokensrc2.JPG
[05:13] <LordC> black_nightmare, after further reading, it seems that package simply installs allt he english stuff (ie mozilla locals, Ubuntu locals and OpenOffice), so removing it should be fine - as it wont remove the actual locals
[05:13] <eyequeue> Aghaster:  no clue, sorry
[05:13] <black_nightmare> lordc hmm ok ty *goes to remove openoffice languages*
[05:13] <Aghaster> :/
[05:13] <Aghaster> it is a serious problem
[05:13] <LordC> Aghaster, that is indeed serious. Are you on Warty?
[05:13] <eyequeue> Aghaster:  what triggered that?
[05:14] <Aghaster> fresh installed ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:14] <Aghaster> i've tried many many versions
[05:14] <Aghaster> and always get the same broken screen
[05:14] <eyequeue> Aghaster:  what platform are you on?
[05:14] <Aghaster> instead of the login screen
[05:14] <Aghaster> amd64
[05:14] <Aghaster> i've tried both amd64 and i386
[05:14] <LordC> Are you installing with amd64 kernel?
[05:15] <eyequeue> Aghaster:  livecds do the same?
[05:15] <Aghaster> yes
[05:15] <Aghaster> the i386
[05:15] <kakalto> there is no amd65 livecd, is there
[05:15] <gangalino> who's ready for some Totem tips?
[05:15] <kakalto> *64
[05:15] <Aghaster> do you think that the i386 would be incompatible?
[05:15] <Aghaster> it would make sense...
[05:15] <eyequeue> gangalino:  teach away
[05:15] <Aghaster> amd64 processors have the x86 instruction set
[05:15] <gangalino> shit..., I need tips
[05:16] <maxchee> does anyone know how to make a deb package?
[05:16] <kakalto> gangalino: ?
[05:16] <gangalino> everytime I start it, I get "Failed to create a GStreamer play object"
[05:16] <maxchee> from source code
[05:16] <eyequeue> maxchee:  dpkg-buildpackage is part of it
[05:17] <eyequeue> maxchee:  install "maint-guide" and read the doc dir for a simple walk-through
[05:17] <[FiDO] > maxchee just look it up
[05:17] <LordC> Aghaster, kill X, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8
[05:17] <black_nightmare> lordc ok I think I've figured what I'll like to get... so in synaptic I click ... what?
[05:17] <kdp> does anyone know a good C channel?
[05:17] <eyequeue> kdp:  is it ##C ?
[05:18] <[FiDO] > ##C
[05:18] <Aghaster> #C
[05:18] <maxchee> is there a way to monitor make .configure and produce a dev package?
[05:18] <eyequeue> kdp:  freenode likes to double the # sometimes
[05:18] <LordC> black_nightmare, right click the package, click "Mark for installation", then click Apply at the top.
[05:18] <kdp> which one, ##C or #C
[05:18] <kdp> eyequeue: oh
[05:18] <kakalto> gangalino, have you looked on the forums about it?
[05:18] <[FiDO] > ##c
[05:18] <LordC> kdp, lol
[05:18] <helio7> thanks for the tip on the lockfile eyequeue, i got it fixed...
[05:18] <eyequeue> helio7:  great
[05:19] <eyequeue> helio7:  that bit me here a while back also
[05:19] <helio7> do most people use the standard gnome-terminal (if you're using gnome) or are some folks using xterm i'm curious to know
[05:19] <black_nightmare> ok lordc ... its downloading the files offline to install... lol about 12MB to remove and 61MB to add.... :p
[05:20] <black_nightmare> no real comments thou
[05:20] <LordC> Why are you using root terminal?
[05:20] <delltony> ok what am i doing wrong? every time i boot up my lappy i get the following filesystem is NOT clean.  I have tried sudo touch /forcefsk and i have also tried shutdown now -r -F nothing seem sto work i'm not runnint ext3 i'm reisfer (or whatever its called)
[05:20] <Fackamato> JOI
[05:21] <black_nightmare> lordc well it was several things including using nano to edit sources.list for repositories as well
[05:21] <LordC> oic
[05:21] <LordC> Still, i recommend sticking with regular terminal, and sudo the few root commands you need
[05:21] <gangalino> kakalto: yes, nothing really about that error
[05:21] <corza> LordC: i'm back sorry, u wouldnt know how to do it would ya/?
[05:21] <eyequeue> delltony:  reiserfs.  it never did that for me, on a debian box, can't offer any other suggestions though
[05:21] <corza> LordC: i dont know how to change the settings thats all
[05:22] <LordC> corza, Remind me what you wanted, mp3s from totem to xmms?
[05:22] <corza> yes
[05:22] <eyequeue> delltony:  i gather you typically do a proper shutdown?
[05:22] <delltony> on a laptop its common so yes :)
[05:22] <delltony> i shut it down properly
[05:22] <corza> LordC: yes thats correct
[05:22] <delltony> but what happen si the battery went dead on me
[05:23] <eyequeue> delltony:  ah
[05:23] <delltony> therefore the shutdown didn't go correctly
[05:23] <LordC> corza, Just looking into it deeper, bare with me
[05:23] <eyequeue> delltony:  so basically, if you could get it "clean" it would probably stay that way again?
[05:23] <corza> so do i go into Apps
[05:23] <delltony> it should
[05:23] <nmsa> is someone using ubuntu to capture video from a camcorder? IEE1394? I am interested in that, hope that I can find a package, any idea where to start ?
[05:23] <corza> LordC: oh ok no prob
[05:24] <eyequeue> nmsa:  ieee1394 is firewire i believe, if that halps your search any
[05:24] <[FiDO] > has anyone got lirc to work properly with ubuntu
[05:24] <derek> ubuntu developers.. you deserve gnudos (kudos would imply a preference to KDE) as you kick arse
[05:24] <derek> the hardest part of ubuntu was getting the media :)
[05:24] <[FiDO] > it's the only thing I haven't been able to get working
[05:24] <derek> have working sound, internet and X without doing a damn thing
[05:25] <eyequeue> delltony:  have you tried booting in "recovery mode" yet?
[05:25] <derek> never in 7 years of debian have i had that :)
[05:25] <nmsa> eyequeue: search any ?
[05:25] <derek> and on a brand new laptop at that
[05:25] <delltony> and do what from recovery?
[05:25] <eyequeue> nmsa:  if it helps any in your search for a package
[05:26] <eyequeue> delltony:  well, on the way in, it should fsck for you
[05:26] <LordC> corza, check PM
[05:26] <corza> LordC: ok how lol
[05:26] <corza> oh nevermind
[05:26] <eyequeue> delltony: if not, the next thing i would try is booting from rescue media, either the livecd or isstall cd, or knoppix or whatever, heh.  then fsck the partition in question, with it NOT mounted
[05:27] <eyequeue> derek:  add to that wireless, and yes, very impressive! :)
[05:27] <delltony> well i thought thats what forcefsk did
[05:27] <LordC> corza, hope it works - worked for me
[05:27] <delltony> apparently not
[05:27] <eyequeue> delltony:  i'm not familiar with forcefsck
[05:28] <Jentoo000> man after i edited /etc/apt/sources.list nothing works can anyone send me there one that works?
[05:28] <geneo93> eyequeue:  its a boot option
[05:28] <eyequeue> delltony:  i imagine you may have typoed just now, but be sure you didn't on the filesystem
[05:29] <anne> any chance of getting a complete set of 32 bit compat libraries on Hoary for AMD64??
[05:29] <Jentoo000> ?
[05:29] <Jentoo000> can anyone help please
[05:29] <LordC> Jentoo000, sure
[05:30] <nmsa> eyequeue:found only high level programing lib ...
[05:30] <LordC> Jentoo000, http://www.so-pro.co.uk/avatarsetc/umbongo/SOURCES.txt
[05:30] <Jentoo000> after i edited /etc/apt/sources.list nothing works can anyone send me there one that works?
[05:30] <eyequeue> nmsa:  hmm
[05:30] <Fackamato> http://www.tehjunkyard.net/01-iron_maiden-where_eagles_dare-satan_int.mp3
[05:31] <Jentoo000> thanks LordC
[05:32] <eyequeue> nmsa:  http://www.ppcnerds.org/Article207.html seems to imply firewire is suported automatically
[05:32] <Jentoo000> LordC: do I rename it to sources.list ??
[05:33] <eyequeue> nmsa:  i have no firewire devices here, but i do have a port on the laptop, let me check something
[05:34] <eyequeue> ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'
[05:34] <eyequeue> ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[10]   MMIO=[e0201000-e02017ff]   Max Packet=[2048]
[05:34] <eyequeue> ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]   GUID[0003252135013c4c]
[05:35] <LordC> Jentoo000, sudo gedit /etc/sources.list and copy n paste the text into it
[05:35] <eyequeue> that is from 'dmesg' here, so it implies my kernel is seeing it
[05:35] <LordC> /etc/apt/sources.list ***
[05:35] <eyequeue> nmsa:  'dmesg | grep 1394'  do you get anything?
[05:35] <derek> just for grins does ubuntu have a way to graphically edit the fstab file?
[05:35] <derek> kind of the equivalent of "map a network drive"
[05:36] <nmsa> it should support it by default, the qestion is: how to control my camera ? how to capture ?
[05:36] <eyequeue> derek:  sure, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:36] <Burgundavia> derek: places --> connect to server
[05:36] <eyequeue> derek:  sorry, i don't know what map a network drive means
[05:36] <derek> in debian i have just always manually done it with emacs, but trying to do the easy way
[05:36] <earthen> can anyone tell me where i can get the mp3 pluging for xmms?
[05:36] <nmsa> I don't have the card in, but a diff. distro sure sees it, so I am sure ubuntu, sees it too
[05:37] <derek> Burgundavia, that allows me to find it which is great
[05:37] <derek> but for example in rhythmbox i can't get to my music unless i "mount" that smb share
[05:37] <eyequeue> nmsa:  i guess i don't see what the problem was then.  did you need to know to use "sudo mount" to mount the drive?
[05:37] <geneo93> eyequeue:  are you at all lunixy enough to have use linneighborhood
[05:38] <eyequeue> geneo93:  sorry, never heard of it, what is it?
[05:38] <black_nightmare> lordc ~ do you know of something named like isapnptool or like it?
[05:38] <nmsa> eyequeue: never tried that ...
[05:38] <ells> does anyone know how I change permissions for a folders worth of files
[05:38] <LordC> What does it do?
[05:38] <ells> that will affect all the files
[05:38] <nmsa> i will and let you know, :) 'thnx
[05:38] <geneo93> its kinda like samba but put dir in home with network drives eyequeue
[05:39] <ells> LordC: I figured it out
[05:39] <eyequeue> ells:  chmod blah * you mean?
[05:39] <ells> eyequeue: yeah
[05:39] <black_nightmare> lordc supposed to configure pnp-abled isa cards.... my sound card doesn't seem to be showing up in device manager so I need figure configuring it manually myself
[05:39] <eyequeue> geneo93:  no samba experience here, just nfs
[05:39] <ells> eyequeue: I tried chmod 777 file, no dice
[05:39] <black_nightmare> but I don't seem to be able to locate any help on using it at all
[05:39] <ells> eyequeue, is there a way to affect a whole file
[05:39] <LordC> Ah
[05:40] <eyequeue> ells: 777 is dangerous, but :)  a "whole file" means what?
[05:40] <LordC> Regarding Sound Cards I would search UbuntuForums.org as their very specific
[05:40] <mello> what is Kubuntu?
[05:40] <eyequeue> ells: all the files in a directory?
[05:40] <calc> mello: kde ubuntu
[05:40] <geneo93> eyequeue:  i dont know if debian supports it yet but suse and a few others do
[05:40] <mello> oh
[05:40] <ells> eyqueue, I mean all the files in the directory
[05:40] <eyequeue> mello:  kde + ubuntu
[05:40] <mello> kde is a graphic user interface, right?
[05:40] <derek> ok i have lost respect for ubuntu now :(
[05:41] <black_nightmare> hmm lordc..this is mine card anyhow: Creative SoundBlaster 16 CT2230 [pnp isa card]
[05:41] <eyequeue> ells: chmod 777 /target/directory/*
[05:41] <derek> bash: emacs: command not found (on a default install) what kind of heresy is that ;)
[05:41] <bandnerd> how good is ubuntu when it comes to hardware detection?
[05:41] <calc> mello: yes
[05:41] <derek> bandnerd, from my limited exposure beyond kick arse
[05:41] <eyequeue> bandnerd:  most are fairly shocked at how good
[05:41] <black_nightmare> not sure I want open another website right now...this machine already kinda crawls as it is sometimes (128MB of ram to...and hd sometimes keep grinding quite a  lot]
[05:41] <ells> eyequeue: there are 240 files in the directory. dont tell me I have to do one at a time
[05:41] <calc> derek: emacs is bloated crap :)
[05:41] <calc> derek: use vi
[05:41] <mello> any benefits to KDE vs. GNOME?
[05:41] <derek> calc, hey now be nice
[05:42] <eyequeue> ells:  no, let me give you an exact command, tell me the directory name please
[05:42] <ells> eyequeue: /home/steve/iTunes
[05:42] <LordC> black_nightmare, SoundBlaster are a well established brand, i'd be surprised if it didnt work
[05:42] <ells> and then the files below it
[05:42] <calc> mello: they both are good, GNOME is more geared towards usability
[05:42] <smouche> mello, that question could start a "religious war" around here -- ;-)  I much prefer kde, others prefer gnome.
[05:42] <eyequeue> mello:  some prefer it, some do not.  i prefer gnome, as do the original ubuntu developers ... i'm trying to be "diplomatic" heh
[05:42] <calc> mello: KDE is more geared towards eye candy
[05:42] <black_nightmare> lordc yeah I know..the problem I am guessing is that..its isa so...hence it doesn't seem to be showing up in device manager right now
[05:43] <eyequeue> ells:  okay, and are those files owned by you?  or do we need to have root powers to do this?  then i'll give you an exact command
[05:43] <mello> ah
[05:43] <calc> there are other real benefits to using kde but the eye candy detracts from it imho
[05:43] <geneo93> calc:  thats bull
[05:43] <eyequeue> ells:  linux-owned, not talking drm-type things :)
[05:43] <mello> you know, i've seen all these screenshots with the calendars on them, where do they get those from?
[05:43] <ells> I can go to the exact computer and do it
[05:43] <derek> geneo93, bull that there are other benefits or that eye cand detracts?
[05:43] <smouche> mello, the "eye candy" is very easily tailored to what you want in kde, a little or a lot.
[05:44] <LordC> black_nightmare, I'm going to PM
[05:44] <black_nightmare> okie
[05:44] <calc> there are definitely other benefits and keramik was definitely not one of them (gag)
[05:44] <ells> eyequeue, you there
[05:44] <LordC> 1) opened a terminal
[05:44] <LordC> 2) typed:
[05:44] <LordC> sudo modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 dma16=5
[05:44] <LordC> 3) logged out from Gnome and logged in again
[05:44] <LordC> 4) raised sound volume
[05:44] <eyequeue> ells:  here, put "sudo " in front of this if your user doens't own them: 'chmod 777 /home/steve/iTunes/*'
[05:44] <LordC> and it worked!
[05:44] <LordC> Ah poo, didnt mean to do that
[05:44] <ells> okay
[05:44] <eyequeue> ells:  if your user doens't own them: 'sudo chmod 777 /home/steve/iTunes/*'
[05:44] <black_nightmare> lol lordc its ok :p
[05:45] <eyequeue> ells:  do you understand what the command i gave you does?
[05:45] <eyequeue> ells:  i dislike telling someone "do this root-level command blindly" :)
[05:45] <smouche> mello: It's not all just a cosmetic difference, gnome and kde install with a lot of different apps, but in many cases apps intended for one work fine in the other.
[05:45] <geneo93> well i have 4 linux distros on this thing and i use copy file or move file quite a bit so kde is very usefull to me and it also has qt which i use on a daily basis
[05:45] <derek> calc emacs21, python mode and supporting libraries are just under 75mb uncompressed... what bloat? ;)
[05:45] <JDahl> what's the link to the description of the different repositories?
[05:45] <mello> ah
[05:46] <calc> derek: hahahaha
[05:46] <eyequeue> ells:  btw, i'd think you might actually want 'chmod 666 /home/steve/iTunes/*' instead.  they seem like they would be data file, not executables
[05:46] <mello> i've seen all these people's screenshots with the calendars on their desktops, where do they get those from?
[05:46] <calc> derek: i still want to learn emacs eventually, i just haven't had the time in the past 10yr to do it
[05:46] <calc> its probably not nearly as slow on my box now as it was when i first started using linux
[05:47] <smouche> mello, imho, kubuntu is probably the best kde distro available, just as ubuntu may be the best gnome distro.  Either one is amazing.
[05:47] <ells> eyequeue, okay
[05:47] <eyequeue> ells:  and if you don't want the world to be able to DELETE them, you might want 644, then all can read them (access or play them) but not overwrite or delete
[05:47] <eyequeue> ells:  and only the "owner" can overwrite or delete
[05:47] <ells> eyequeue, I will now try to transfer them with gftp
[05:47] <Roey> but just to get it out of the way, kde is awesomer than gnome.
[05:48] <eyequeue> ells:  did the command work for you, with that "*" WILDCARD?
[05:48] <calc> Roey: no way :)
[05:48] <ells> eyequeue: i sent them to to my desktop and hopefully this will help bring them back
[05:48] <eyequeue> oops
[05:48] <Roey> calc:  KDE is the REAL ULTIMATE POWER!
[05:48] <Roey> calc:   FACTS:
[05:48] <calc> Roey: once gnome gets the cool toys redhat is working on kde will lose on eyecandy too ;)
[05:48] <Roey> calc:  1.  KDE is (programmed by) mammals
[05:48] <calc> gnomes are mammals too
[05:48] <ells> eyequeue: "* ?
[05:48] <geneo93> no there not
[05:48] <eyequeue> okay, please please please stop the GNOME vs KDE wars ? ! ? !
[05:49] <Roey> calc:  2. KDE is awesomer than gnome ALL the time
[05:49] <smouche> calc, I guess I'm weird, but I found gnome's eye candy a lot more distracting than kde's, because at least in kde I can easily turn it off!
[05:49] <Roey> calc:  3. The purpose of KDE is to make GNOME irrelevant
[05:49] <geneo93> gnomes are old perverts
[05:49] <Roey> black_nightmare:  ;)
[05:49] <smouche> gnome's settings, for a newbie anyway, are harder to deal with than kde's
[05:49] <Roey> http://brianx.com/realultimatepower.html
[05:49] <eyequeue> thanks
[05:49] <Jentoo000> updating apt-get takes a while *_*
[05:49] <mello> i'm almost sorry i wondered what KDE was :)
[05:50] <mello> anyways.. back to my other question
[05:50] <mello> i've seen all these people's screenshots with the calendars on their desktops, where do they get those from?
[05:50] <Jentoo000> i recon ubuntu is the best distribution for newbies and advanced linux uers so far
[05:50] <Megabyte405> Roey: LOL!
[05:50] <eyequeue> mello:  call it "one of the many alternatives linux offers you" :)
[05:50] <geneo93> mello:  kde
[05:50] <calc> smouche: eh? gnome has no eyecandy
[05:50] <Megabyte405> The purpose of KDE is to flip out and kill people.
[05:50] <Roey> HAHAHA
[05:50] <Megabyte405> Hence why I use gnome.
[05:50] <Roey> Megabyte405:  nono
[05:50] <Jentoo000> wish i had gkrellm working
[05:50] <calc> Roey: erm i think you have it backwards, gnome was created as a response to the non-free kde stuff ;)
[05:50] <kakalto> Mb405, it's all a matter of opinion
[05:50] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  works here, what seems to be the problem?
[05:50] <Roey> Megabyte405:  the purpose of KDE GROUPIES is to flip and kill gnome groupies.
[05:51] <Megabyte405> ahh, I see.
[05:51] <Megabyte405> Are they mammals?
[05:51] <mello> oh.
[05:51] <dts> kdesdk:
[05:51] <dts>  Depends: kbugbuster but it is not going to be installed
[05:51] <Roey> calc:   I know but I had to make KDE fit the parody template :)
[05:51] <Jentoo000> eyequeue: dont know where to start once I've downloaded it, what file should i download
[05:51] <dts> what doen that mea
[05:51] <dts> n
[05:51] <calc> Roey: ah ok :)
[05:51] <smouche> calc, I call animations on window minimizing eye candy, and I call it obnoxious.   I've been mucking around with my list file and ive seen the word deb in it
[05:51] <calc> smouche: hmm that should be fairly easy to disable, i just never have noticed it
[05:51] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  are you familiar with synaptic?
[05:51] <Roey> (it's circulated there but not yet en mass)
[05:52] <Jentoo000> eyequeue: I dont understand it much so i just use the console
[05:52] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  okay, you're brand new, right?  don't want to talk down, just be clear
[05:52] <smouche> and it's uuugly eye candy.  But like I said, ubuntu is great gnome, kubuntu is great kde.
[05:52] <Jentoo000> eyequeue: yes
[05:52] <Roey> *its
[05:52] <Br34ch> nub question.. with what command can I determine basic stuff like what kernel I'm using and moreon of the sort of information?
[05:53] <Megabyte405> Br34ch: uname
[05:53] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  okay, i'll give you commandline alternatives, and i'll give you synaptic alternatives, you can choose which you prefer at the end before doing them
[05:53] <Br34ch> thank you
[05:53] <Anubis> how to add gismos reposit?
[05:53] <Megabyte405> Br34ch: uname -r for kernel version, -A I think for all
[05:53] <Jentoo000> eyequeue: for? I havent downloaded any of the gkrellms yet though
[05:53] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  apt-cache search gkrellm | less  .... that will get you a list of what pacakges there are, then you can choose which you like
[05:53] <LordC> ells, chmod +777 /home/steve/iTunes -R (incase you didnt get the answer yet)
[05:54] <mello> what's the terminal command for deleting a folder you don't want
[05:54] <Jentoo000> hmm ok
[05:54] <black_nightmare> bye till tomorrow everyone :)
[05:54] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  then, assuming they are called "foo" and "bar" (which is unlikely, lol) you would "sudo apt-get install foo bar"
[05:54] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  that's the commandline style, now i'll explain the synaptic style
[05:54] <ubuntoid> mello:  rmdir
[05:54] <ells> LordC, thanks
[05:55] <Jentoo000> what the it just shows _ that in rows
[05:55] <LordC> Right, im off to bed now
[05:55] <LordC> Night all
[05:55] <mello> gracias
[05:55] <Jentoo000> up the top it says gkrelldnet - A dnetc plugin for GKrellM
[05:55] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  system > administration > synaptic, to start it, then push the Search button, and type in gkrellm
[05:55] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  you'll have a list of pacakges, pick the ones you want, right click on them, and say you want to select them for installation
[05:55] <dts> is there a synaptics for the console
[05:56] <Jentoo000> man can u whisper to me this is too hard
[05:56] <eyequeue> Jentoo000:  click on apply, and it's done
[05:56] <Blissex> dts: 'aptitude'
[05:56] <ells> LordC, thanks, it worked
[05:56] <eyequeue> dts:  dselect, or aptitude would be the closest
[05:56] <dts> Blissex, eyequeue thanks
[05:57] <eyequeue> dts:  i personally would prefer dselect, others would prefer aptitude, linux is about choices, heh
[05:57] <Megabyte405> Dselect!!!!
[05:57] <Megabyte405> WHAT??!!!
[05:57] <ice_1963> lol
[05:57] <ice_1963> ok
[05:57] <Megabyte405> I do think I get an allergic reaction to that.  Never could figure out what the heck to do in it.
[05:58] <eyequeue> Megabyte405:  press "?" :)
[05:58] <Megabyte405> Tried that...
[05:58] <Megabyte405> That is probably why I do not use Debian anymore.
[05:59] <geneo93> debian is pretty clunky but ubuntu has helped it some
[06:00] <JDahl> what's the link to guide on the difference between multiverse and universe etc. ?
[06:00] <eyequeue> JDahl:  none, iirc
[06:00] <JDahl> eyequeue, there
[06:00] <JDahl> eyequeue, there is one... I just cant remember or find it
[06:00] <eyequeue> JDahl:  multiverse is "nonfree" and unsupported, universe is merely unsupported
[06:00] <ice_1963> uninstall an go back to windows
[06:01] <JDahl> eyequeue, yeah... I was looking for the reference to email a friend that just installed Warty, and wonders where all the usual Debian packages went
[06:01] <geneo93> ice_1963:  why
[06:02] <eyequeue> JDahl:  in deb-speak, universe is where, and multiverse would be the "non-free" ones
[06:03] <geneo93> all the illegal things in usa
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> mon
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> man
[06:03] <JDahl> eyequeue, and restricted is mainly wrappers for binaries?
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> I need to alter hoary-live
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> to have ntfs readwrite support
[06:03] <bluefoxicy> and clamav
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> so I can clamscan windows pcs at work
[06:04] <bluefoxicy> had to manually remove a virus in dell -- recovery console.
[06:05] <Megabyte405> clamwin.org
[06:05] <bluefoxicy> uh
[06:05] <geneo93> bluefoxicy:  sounds like you have more than virus then
[06:05] <bluefoxicy> files in use can't be removed, as many viruses like to be.
[06:05] <bluefoxicy> I had to get out of the OS to do it
[06:05] <eyequeue> JDahl:  no, that's basically non-free kernel-level stuff
[06:06] <JDahl> eyequeue, aha, thanks
[06:06] <geneo93> bluefoxicy:  sometimes it can be done in safe mode admin
[06:07] <Megabyte405> I second geneo93 's thoughy
[06:07] <Megabyte405> thought, even.
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> geneo93:  yeah but windows is ass
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> if I have to reboot it, I should reboot into something cool.
[06:07] <geneo93> i clean up 3 dells here that way
[06:07] <eyequeue> JDahl:  if you manually browse pool/restricted, you'll see, it's kernel-restricted and the two proprietary video supports, ati and nvidia
[06:08] <eyequeue> JDahl:  stuff that "should" be inb the kernel, in an ideal world
[06:08] <Kazuhiro> Any one setup transgaing on x86_64 and not used a chroot as listed on here? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[06:08] <dts>   Depends: python (<2.4) but 2.4-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[06:08] <dts>  Depends: python2.3-kde3 but it is not going to be installed
[06:08] <dts> i don't get what those messages mean
[06:08] <geneo93> clamav just quaretines them then you change file ext and delete them
[06:08] <Megabyte405> dts: doing a warty to hoary update?
[06:09] <dts> Megabyte405, no i have horay installed already
[06:09] <Megabyte405> oh.
[06:09] <dts> Megabyte405, it looks like it can't take python2.4 and wants 2.3
[06:09] <dts> Megabyte405, do you know how i can downgrade a version
[06:09] <Megabyte405> dts: I think I have both installed since my upgrade.
[06:09] <Megabyte405> I think they are both available in apt
[06:10] <crimsun> dts: which package?
[06:10] <coreDumped69> hey, I'm helping my friend set up ubuntu, and it's my first ubuntu install (not linux tho...) he gets part way thru the menus in the installer and the screen starts flashing and the progress stops... does it sound like a hardware problem? (I'm running memtest now)
[06:10] <dts> Megabyte405, yea I installed 2.3 but it still won't do
[06:10] <Megabyte405> Hmm.
[06:10] <crimsun> dts: python*-kde?
[06:10] <Megabyte405> change your python symlink to python-2.3
[06:10] <dts> crimsun, python-kde3
[06:10] <crimsun> Megabyte405: don't do that, a lot of things will break.
[06:10] <dts> Megabyte405, just manualy ln -sf ...?
[06:10] <Megabyte405> hmm.
[06:10] <Megabyte405> dts: then don't do that.
[06:11] <Megabyte405> beats me.
[06:11] <dts> q
[06:11] <dts> ok
[06:11] <ells> has anyone noticed the nvidia driver being a little grainy.   If you run across another issue like that, please let us know in #ubuntu-motu, thanks.
[06:11] <kakalto> I never knew xchat had sounds
[06:11] <ells> coreDumped69: i had nv, changed it to nvidia
[06:12] <ells> coreDumped69: why
[06:12] <dts> crimsun, well what should i do right now
[06:12] <coreDumped69> ells, cause I just saw an install and the nv drivers had weird issues, but once switched to nvidia it worked fine
[06:12] <dts> crimsun, go  there?
[06:12] <crimsun> dts: do you absolutely need python-kde3?
[06:12] <crimsun> dts: if not, sudo aptitude remove python-kde3
[06:12] <dts> crimsun, yea i used to program in it and i have some stuff i need from it
[06:12] <ells> coreDumped: maybe I still have nv working. how can I makeceratin
[06:13] <dts> crimsun, pykde3 is not installed yet, i'm trying to install it right now
[06:13] <corza> hey can someone help me change what my mouse buttons do?
[06:13] <geneo93> ells:  glxgears
[06:13] <coreDumped69> ells, lsmod to make sure you have the nvidia module loaded and check your xorg.conf
[06:14] <corza> is there someone who can help me change what my mouse buttons do?