[10:51] <GTswagger> Quirky question:  Where in the world can I find a tux stress ball?   There's NONE on eBay.   EVERY site I found on Google has like 150 qty minimums....
[10:51] <kareljan> ompaul: where do I find synaptic? I'm brand new in linux
[10:51] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: Money isn't a bad thing as such, there's just other ways to help that can be more effective than money.
[10:51] <ompaul> kareljan, the server is in the "repo" universe
[10:52] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: study the script and see what it does. you can then undo the worst stuff
[10:52] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: Even things like answering random questions in here helps, and it doesn't cost anything
[10:52] <Madpilot> kareljan: System menu - Admin - Synaptic
[10:52] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: of course, you could have studied in advance :)
[10:52] <ompaul> kareljan, system administation synaptic
[10:52] <Luna-Tick> Fair call, Hendikins: I do my best to help in *all* the ways that I can :)
[10:52] <kareljan> ompaul: can you guid me step by step i use the kde interface
[10:52] <bettong_BOFH> well i seen it in the ubuntu forums so i thought it was safe
[10:52] <ompaul> kareljan, no I don't do kde have a look in #kubuntu
[10:53] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: I'm just coming from the position of somebody who has provided valuable (and substantial) help to the Mozilla community without donating one brass razoo
[10:53] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: forums can have anything
[10:53] <binarydigit> kareljan: try using your eyeballs and exploring
[10:53] <Luna-Tick> Then we are lucky to have you on-board :)
[10:53] <bettong_BOFH> true where can i find this automatix script?
[10:53] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, well so much for your bofh attitude }:-> btw in a former life I was sirlartalot
[10:53] <KarlosII> Any samba helpers here?
[10:53] <Madpilot> bettong_BOFH: there's all sorts of stuff in the forums...
[10:53] <Hoxzer> can somebody tell me howto enable sound server?
[10:54] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: My interest in this IRC channel stems from the fact it is one of the places that is friendly and doesn't immediately send users upstream.
[10:54] <binarydigit> i am surprised he was able to get on irc
[10:54] <KarlosII> come to #samba if u are able to help with samba issues, I need help and seems everyone is asleep in there
[10:54] <bettong_BOFH> ompaul, lol so much for what? it runs fine so far i wasen't aware of the securety isshues thats all
[10:54] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com both of these have the [cough]  canonical answers
[10:54] <topyli> heh. automatix seems to err on the safe side and installs absolutely everything. you end up with multiple browsers, media players, and generally a mess
[10:54] <TengkSA> What program do you use to burn cds / dvds??? ***********
[10:55] <ompaul> topyli, :-)
[10:55] <bob_4_a_day> i'll come back when i can find an irc client.   this irssi is the s***s
[10:55] <Hendikins> KarlosII: Why not ask in here? This channel is somewhat of a catchall.
[10:55] <ompaul> TengkSA, nautilus
[10:55] <mjr> TengkSA, nautilus (the burn:// location accessible from the menus), or gnomebaker
[10:55] <Hendikins> TengkSA: xcdroast/k3b, depending
[10:55] <KarlosII> Hendikins: ok
[10:55] <KarlosII> why is samba asking for username/domain/passwords when I try to access smb shares on my linux boxes from each other or a windows box?
[10:55] <KarlosII> why is samba asking for username/domain/passwords when I try to access smb shares on my linux boxes from each other or a windows box?
[10:55] <TengkSA> where does one find nautilus
[10:56] <ompaul> KarlosII, well #samba has samba experts we are not that :-) some of us would not even use smb protocol because of its lineage
[10:57] <KarlosII> ompaul: experts on hiatus atm and it was suggested in here that I ask here
[10:57] <Luna-Tick> Hendikins: Please don't take me as saying what you are doing isn't enough, it sounds like you help an awful lot! Personally I can't find the time to help out as much as I would like because I am working etc. So to me I like to 'top-up' my contribution with cash.
[10:57] <bettong_BOFH> i must have done something diffrent then as i only let it install what i needed
[10:57] <Irvine> how to run warcraft iii in wine?
[10:57] <Irvine> anyone
[10:58] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: well, then all is fine
[10:59] <ompaul> TengkSA, if you put in a blank CD in the burner it will fire up nautilus or on the command line >>nautilus<< or menu places >>Computer<<
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> i just used it because it took 20min off haveing to search for what i commonly use
[10:59] <hyphenated> ompaul: just as a bit of trivia, the SMB protocol was invented by IBM
[10:59] <ompaul> KarlosII, you may figure from my answer I know nothing of it
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> i'm not a complete noob to linux anymore though there are some things i think i still need to learn
[11:00] <KarlosII> ompaul: :)
[11:00] <ompaul> hyphenated, and a bit of other trivia it is used to interoperate with an O/S I don't use :)
[11:00] <ompaul> hyphenated, I should learn something about it but I keep getting diverted
[11:00] <KarlosII> yeah unfortunate that I have to interoperate with that o/s
[11:01] <hyphenated> KarlosII: you should make sure you have the correct security level for the server. "Share" level seems to be the right one if you want to be able to see the shares without authenticating with the server first
[11:01] <TengkSA> ompaul can u burn dvds with nautilus too
[11:01] <hyphenated> ompaul: fair enough (to both points)
[11:01] <KarlosII> hyphenated: and that is in smb.conf right?
[11:02] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: yeah. after a clean install though, i let usage show what i need. "oh, i have no foo-bar and need it". apt-get install foo-bar :)
[11:02] <Luna-Tick> You can even burn CDs or DVDs by right clicking the desktop icon and clicking copy CD, if I remember correctly
[11:02] <hyphenated> KarlosII: should be. personally, I'm a KDE weenie, and there's a frontend in the control center there.
[11:02] <KarlosII> haha
[11:02] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: I didn't say there was anything wrong with that, did I? Although it is useful to look around and see where the cash may be of most use.
[11:02] <ubuntu__> Hello?
[11:02] <bettong_BOFH> right that what i do as well but over the last year in ubuntu i have learned what i need to run this box effectivly and keep the clutter down
[11:02] <bettong_BOFH> ^_^
[11:03] <hyphenated> KarlosII: look for a line "security =" in your smb.conf
[11:03] <bettong_BOFH> at first i installed everything i could and would ruin my box......no more ^_^.
[11:03] <x9> Ok, whaterver on my nick being protected.
[11:03] <x9> But, I have a problem.
[11:03] <x9> How do I remove an item from the applications menu?
[11:03] <KarlosII> hyphenated: it's set to user
[11:03] <topyli> KarlosII: still fighting the samba daemons i see ;-)
[11:04] <hyphenated> KarlosII: if it says "user" or "server" or somesuch, I imagine you'll get prompted
[11:04] <KarlosII> topyli: yep, I'm getting there, i conquered some of them as u see
[11:04] <topyli> yeah, at least it works
[11:04] <KarlosII> hyphenated: k chnaging it to share
[11:04] <x9> Hmm
[11:04] <TengkSA> is there a way of putting bootfix for windows on a bootable cd and making it fix the boot instructions
[11:05] <jazzman> hello, i have a complete newbie problem!
[11:05] <Hendikins> jazzman: Shoot.
[11:05] <topyli> jazzman: ask away
[11:05] <hyphenated> KarlosII: there's different reasons for having different settings. the man page says "You should also use security = share if you want to mainly setup shares without a password (guest shares)."
[11:05] <hyphenated> which I'm guessing is what you're after
[11:05] <KarlosII> k
[11:05] <Madpilot> x9: right click on the Application menu, select Edit Menus
[11:06] <jazzman> thnks. i have a folder on my desktop with a padlock on it. it is owned by root and i need to get rid
[11:06] <jazzman> i was trying to acess a 2nd hdd and i thought this would make a shortcut
[11:07] <TengkSA> what program do you use to compress images to jpg format? ******
[11:07] <hyphenated> TengkSA: I use imagemagick tools :-)
[11:07] <Madpilot> jazzman: have a look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[11:07] <Irvine> how to install opengl?
[11:07] <jazzman> thnx
[11:07] <ompaul> TengkSA, what is with the ** do you want to convert from some pictures - I use things like gimp for that
[11:07] <hyphenated> the command 'convert filename.blah filename.jpg' and it's done all magically for me.
[11:07] <x9> Madpilot, Thanks!
[11:08] <Hendikins> Irvine: Do you need to install 3D drivers? a'la nvidia/ATI drivers?
[11:08] <x9> One other question.  Why is my video so slow?
[11:08] <Irvine> no
[11:08] <bettong_BOFH> is soundconverter a good app?
[11:08] <Hendikins> So you're simply wanting to install the mesa libs or such like?
[11:08] <TengkSA> ompaul no one answers my questions unless i put asterisks at the end :P umm no just when i save files i wanna save them as jpeg not png so they 2mb
[11:09] <Irvine> how to install it?
[11:09] <bettong_BOFH> so soundconverter is not a good app?
[11:09] <OC_Doppelganger> I just installed 5.10 and I must say I'm VERY impressed... I had tried warthog and hedhog, but this is perfect :D
[11:09] <TengkSA> hyphenated,  what is the alternative for itunes
[11:09] <Madpilot> Irvine: do you have an Nvidia or ATI card?
[11:09] <Irvine> no
[11:09] <Hendikins> What card do you use then?
[11:09] <hyphenated> TengkSA: *shrug* almost anything really
[11:10] <OC_Doppelganger> finally WPA and ipw2200 work flawlessly (afaik)
[11:10] <TengkSA> hyphenated, no to be able to update an ipod
[11:10] <OC_Doppelganger> sorry, I just had to say it :D
[11:10] <Irvine> no,how to check i am using which type of graphic card?
[11:10] <hyphenated> I dunno. I don't have an ipod. my girlfriend does, but doesn't use linux
[11:10] <Madpilot> Irvine: I'm still not sure what you mean...
[11:11] <Luna-Tick> iTunes equiv. is meant to be Rhythmbox
[11:11] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: well, it does seem to convert sound files so i guess lives up to its promises :)
[11:11] <bettong_BOFH> ok cool
[11:11] <dimitri> by mistake I put my top menu bar to the bean, how do I take it back ?
[11:11] <Irvine> Madpilot,i did not know the brands of my agp card
[11:11] <hyphenated> TengkSA: apparently amaroK can do it, but it's a KDE tool, so you might need some unwanted crap to make it run
[11:12] <TengkSA> hyphenated, how do u run imagemagick ive installed it through synaptic
[11:12] <Steil> TengkSA, gtkpod
[11:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[11:12] <x9> Is gtkpod safe?
[11:13] <dimitri> anyone please ?
[11:13] <hyphenated> TengkSA: from a shell
[11:13] <Steil> x9, I use it, it works fine
[11:13] <TengkSA> Seveas!!!
[11:13] <TengkSA> hyphenated, now how do i do that
[11:13] <Luna-Tick> dimitri, I don't quite understand, sorry
[11:14] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: I have put my menu bar (at the top) in the bean, so I don't have it anymore
[11:14] <Luna-Tick> In the rubbish bin?
[11:14] <hyphenated> TengkSA: I'm not about to teach you how to use a shell right now. find it and play with it, if you're interested
[11:14] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: well I think, since it happened when I was cleaning my desktop and I don't have my menu bar anymore
[11:15] <Madpilot> Irvine: try taking the side of your case apart?
[11:15] <topyli> TengkSA: it depends on what you want to do. to convert an image, use convert. to iimport a screenshot, use import. and so on
[11:15] <Luna-Tick> TenkSA: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[11:15] <x9> ubuntu is cool.
[11:15] <dimitri> how can I do to reset my xserver then ?
[11:15] <bettong_BOFH> x9 you have no idea how cool it can actually be ^_^
[11:15] <dimitri> or is it my session ?
[11:16] <TengkSA> Steil, can i run gtkpod without having to use any commands
[11:16] <x9> bettong_BOFH, oh?
[11:16] <x9> All I know is that I'm running a LiveCD on my iBook and am doing everything that I normaly would under OS X.
[11:17] <Luna-Tick> TengkSA: Then you would type in the command - It could be "imagemagick" or whatever
[11:17] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: can you help me ?
[11:17] <stroh> it is recommend to uptade all updates ?
[11:17] <TengkSA> Steil,  can i run gtkpod without using commands
[11:17] <bettong_BOFH> x9 i have been useing ubuntu for about a year now and have found it to far exceed everything windows can do....it has not failed to impress me on a dayly basis....or quit working (unless i did something really dumb)
[11:17] <topyli> dimitri: i didn't know you can put panels in the trash. but anyway, you can create a new one to replace the deleted one
[11:18] <Irvine> ok
[11:18] <KarlosII> hyphenated: thanks problem solved, side question is the samba shares isolated from outside the network, as I dun even know whow to tell that ie outside the router on the wan
[11:18] <dimitri> topyli: yes for the panel but this does not seem to apply for the top menu bar
[11:18] <bettong_BOFH> x9 if you are a new user it will take some time to get used to....but it's worth every moment spent learning ^_^
[11:18] <dimitri> is there not a way to reset the session or whatever
[11:18] <x9> bettong_BOFH, I'm a debian fanboy and have been for years, but the ease of use for ubuntu is impressive.
[11:18] <topyli> dimitri: it's just another panel
[11:18] <Madpilot> dimitri: the menus are another panel bar item, right click on the panel & find the menu item
[11:19] <Luna-Tick> You can delete all your settings etc. by deleting the folder in Home, I think
[11:19] <topyli> dimitri: oh, i think Madpilot understood your question better than me
[11:19] <Luna-Tick> That would reset your menus AFAIK
[11:19] <bettong_BOFH> x9 i know it's one of like 5 i have tryed and i just stoped trying when i found it ^_^ it just fit me and my needs perfectly (i think if they ever did charge  would pay for it)
[11:19] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: which folder ?
[11:19] <bettong_BOFH> it's just that good ^_^
[11:20] <Luna-Tick> Good Question.... I am trying to figure that out...
[11:20] <dimitri> I have tried to do it with .gnome*
[11:20] <dimitri> but still
[11:20] <topyli> dimitri: don't delete anything. just add a "menu bar" to your top panel
[11:20] <dimitri> topyli: ok
[11:21] <x9> bettong_BOFH, I set my gf up with ubuntu and she had never used linux before.  She's doing very, very well :)
[11:21] <Madpilot> dimitri: right-click, choose Add To Panel, add the Menu Bar item - move it around until it's where you need it
[11:22] <dimitri> Madpilot: actually, I can't move it at the top as it seems that my menu bar is still there but transparent !
[11:22] <Luna-Tick> Oh. Thanks Madpilot. I didn't realise that that was the full default set!
[11:22] <Beleys> Poy
[11:23] <dimitri> this is annoying, I have to put everything back there !
[11:23] <Madpilot> dimitri: what happens when you right-click on where your menu bar should be?
[11:23] <dimitri> Madpilot: I have the same menu as if I click on the panel below
[11:24] <aftertaf> x9:  nice one mate :]
[11:24] <dimitri> I have managed to make it appears again but there is nothing in it!
[11:24] <dimitri> how can I get my nice ubuntu logo ?!
[11:24] <Madpilot> dimitri: I think that comes with the menu set
[11:24] <Steil> TengkSA, gtkpod will appear in the applications menu under Sound & Video
[11:24] <TengkSA> cool it works thanks Steil
[11:25] <dimitri> Madpilot: you are right ! thanks
[11:25] <topyli> x9: it depends on what they want to do. a new colleague needed a computer. i asked what she needed to do. "write articles, surf the web and read email." so i set her up with ubuntu and she's a happy camper
[11:25] <x9> I bet.
[11:25] <x9> I'm very impressed.
[11:25] <dukebody> i have problems with sound in skype, it says my device is busy, i followed ubuntu guide and set alsa as my sound driver but it doesn't work
[11:25] <Hendikins> That's a point I have difficulty making to people about Linux
[11:26] <Steil> dukebody, kill esd
[11:26] <x9> The only trouble she had setting it up was due to a scratched install CD and her monitor only doing 640x480 till I manualy fixed xf86config.
[11:26] <Madpilot> Hendikins: the "it really does just work" point? :P
[11:26] <Hendikins> Madpilot: No, the "If you're starting from zero, *anything* is going to have a learning curve" point, when it comes to giving people new to computers Linux
[11:27] <topyli> Madpilot: what i mean is, she didn't say "to do qualitative discourse analysis with Atlas.ti and graphically browse Netware servers" :-)
[11:27] <x9> lol
[11:28] <Madpilot> Hendikins: IME there's as much of a learning curve from Win98 to WinXP as from Win to Ubuntu...
[11:29] <Hendikins> Madpilot: I'm not entirely sure. I'm more talking about people who haven't used Windows in the first place.
[11:30] <Madpilot> Hendikins: yeah, if they're really starting from zero, that's different
[11:30] <topyli> there's a learning curve from win98 to win98-in-another-day because you never know how it works today
[11:31] <Madpilot> "Microsoft: How Shall We Crash Today?" :P
[11:31] <Hobbsee> hehe @ Madpilot
[11:32] <Venson> or the optimistic "How many times shall we reboot today?"
[11:33] <topyli> gnome-bluetooth is still strange though. sometimes it works well, sometimes not
[11:33] <Madpilot> Venson: at least once every time you install something, no matter how trivial it is - even Acrobat Reader on Win wants to restart the machine... :P
[11:33] <topyli> hard to upgrade either, it seems to depend on almost everything :)
[11:33] <Ticho> Madpilot: of course this is not true for windows xp - it requires much less restarts than previous windows versions
[11:34] <rob1> Madpilot, doing remote support and having the pc rebooting after installing a trivial piece of software is pretty painful, although windows is not doing it as much these days, and even less so with vista
[11:34] <Madpilot> Ticho: actually, it was Acroread on XP that wanted the restart!
[11:34] <Ng> want or need? also, this is waaay off-topic ;)
[11:35] <rob1> billy gates
[11:35] <Madpilot> Venson: it's MS, it's the biggest target going :P
[11:35] <Madpilot> anyway, I need sleep - good night, all
[11:35] <Venson> right
[11:35] <Ng> Venson: one would hope that people would grow up and stop feeling a need to pick on things
[11:36] <TengkSA> How do you make your menu.lst file not Read only?
[11:36] <Hobbsee> Venson: the crashes and BSoD's that occur when the machine FUBAR's from *not* being rebooted recently
[11:36] <Venson> lol
[11:36] <Ng> TengkSA: use sudo to edit it :)
[11:36] <Venson> stability and price, then
[11:36] <TengkSA> Ng,  I wanna use gedit!
[11:37] <Hobbsee> TengkSA: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:37] <lucasvo> TengkSA: then use gksudo gedit blaaa
[11:37] <Venson> you don't gedit just coz you wandit
[11:37] <TengkSA> ok
[11:37] <topyli> TengkSA: don't fiddle with the permissions of system files whatever you do
[11:37] <TengkSA> ok
[11:38] <TengkSA> can someone help me with boot instructions for windows on ubuntu please.... in prvt
[11:38] <topyli> sudo will give you enough power to break them comfortably
[11:38] <ibaib> hi
[11:38] <neville> can someone tell me where i can find w32codecs? are there linux-mirrors for it?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> !tell neville about w32codecs
[11:40] <TengkSA> Please someone help with boot instructions!!
[11:42] <mrpink> hi everybody
[11:42] <mrpink> fist of all
[11:43] <mrpink> a happy new year to all
[11:43] <KarlosII> 2 days late :P
[11:43] <mrpink> i know:)
[11:43] <mrpink> an iam realy sorry
[11:43] <KarlosII> lol
[11:43] <mrpink> does anybody nknow if tre are w32 debs. for amd 64?
[11:44] <Venson> doubt it
[11:44] <topyli> mrpink: no, they are w32 after all
[11:44] <teroedni> hello trying to eject a live cd
[11:44] <topyli> mrpink: you'll have to try and do with gstreamer
[11:45] <ompaul> teroedni, it ejects when you tell it to shut down
[11:45] <Dashiva> there's a way you can do it
[11:45] <mrpink> topyli: i tried but i do not work
[11:45] <Dashiva> but it involves installing 32bit mplay in a chroot jail
[11:45] <Dashiva> *mplayer
[11:45] <ibaib> i have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?
[11:45] <teroedni> is there a way i can put the system in ram so i can eject the cd
[11:45] <topyli> mrpink: you installed gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg?
[11:46] <teroedni> i need to burn a iso
[11:46] <mrpink> topyli: yes
[11:46] <topyli> mrpink: that's good as you get :(
[11:46] <mrpink> hmm
[11:46] <topyli> mrpink: you can do the chroot magik like Dashiva says
[11:46] <bettong_BOFH> x9 thats awsome ^_^
[11:46] <mrpink> do you have a link
[11:46] <mrpink> ?
[11:47] <Dashiva> um
[11:47] <Dashiva> you might actually check the gentoo forums
[11:47] <mrpink> brb
[11:47] <vermoos> good morning
[11:47] <Dashiva> they do a lot of that sort of stuff
[11:47] <teroedni> is there no possibility to eject the cd?
[11:47] <Inf3ctedFx> hey ppl I have a question, netscape and firefox.. what is the big diference beside desing
[11:48] <mrpink> thx Dashiva and topyli
[11:48] <ibaib> HELP! i need somebodiii help
[11:48] <Hobbsee> !tell ibaib about ask
[11:48] <Inf3ctedFx> ibaib: what do u need?
[11:48] <ibaib> i have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?
[11:48] <topyli> Inf3ctedFx: netscape is based on old mozilla communicator code, firefox is a whole new standalone browser
[11:49] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh oks but netscape is good also right? topyli
[11:49] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition
[11:49] <cvogel> hi, does anyone know how to compile a .a/.so library with gcc?
[11:49] <topyli> Inf3ctedFx: i guess (haven't used it). it's probably full of aol and netscape branding and other annoyances. it also probably has some proprietary goodies
[11:50] <teroedni> Please:Does anyone knows what i should do
[11:50] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, I'm testing it right now and is full of goodies lol
[11:50] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition
[11:50] <teroedni> i have downloaded a iso and need to burn it
[11:50] <teroedni> but the livecd is in the burner and i cant eject it
[11:50] <topyli> teroedni: you can eject cd's yes. what's the problem?
[11:50] <Inf3ctedFx> and iso for what teroedni
[11:51] <ibaib> i have putted my mac's ip address as "anfitrin" on the ubuntu's network configuration
[11:51] <topyli> teroedni: oh the live cd. no, you can't eject it i guess
[11:51] <Venson> cvogel something like gcc foo.c -o foo.so
[11:51] <teroedni> x_x
[11:51] <cvogel> thanks, Venson
[11:51] <teroedni> im srewed then
[11:52] <topyli> teroedni: i'd use sysresccd or another smaller live cd that fits into memory and doesn't need to read the cd all the time
[11:52] <ibaib> hey anyone can help me?
[11:52] <teroedni> eject
[11:53] <teroedni> ups sorry
[11:53] <Inf3ctedFx> ok brb
[11:53] <sunrex> hows it going anything new happen
[11:53] <bettong_BOFH> ibaib whats up?
[11:53] <ibaib> i repeat
[11:53] <ibaib> sorry
[11:53] <ibaib> i have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?
[11:53] <teroedni> lol that was really easy
[11:54] <ibaib> i have putted my mac's ip address as "anfitrin" on the ubuntu's network configuration but nothing
[11:54] <teroedni> just neede to run root then eject
[11:54] <NoWhereMan> 2.6.15 is out and looks like conexant usb driver is supported ^^ does anubody know when it will be available on ubuntu repos?
[11:54] <bettong_BOFH> actually to be honist i have never networked a mac and ubuntu toghether although i am haveing the same isshue with ubuntu and the wifes windows box
[11:55] <ibaib> mmm
[11:55] <sunrex> anything new out
[11:55] <Hobbsee> NoWhereMan: dapper
[11:55] <eksajm> hello, where can i find nonfree unrar?
[11:55] <NoWhereMan> Hobbsee, already out?
[11:55] <topyli> teroedni: it ejected? now, i'm still afraid you can't run anything (like a cd creator) because the system will want to read it from the cd
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !tell NoWhereMan about dapper
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> Hobbsee, yeah, but I meant if it were already out on dapper repos :P
[11:57] <Hobbsee> yeah, it's been in dapper for ages...
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> huh :D
[11:57] <sunrex> whats dapper
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> good to hear
[11:57] <teroedni> topyli yes it ejected >root terminal eject
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> huh here's another :P
[11:57] <teroedni> need to download gnomebaker:P
[11:57] <neville> hi, where can i find the .deb for realplayer? is there one?
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> !tell sunrex anout dapper
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> !tell sunrex about dapper
[11:58] <topyli> teroedni: all you need to burn an iso is nautilus
[11:58] <Ng> dapper is released in April, don't use it until then
[11:59] <teroedni> topyli:Nautilus cant
[12:00] <joscha> hi
[12:00] <wildthing> hi
[12:00] <NoWhereMan> Hobbsee, but 2.6.15 has been yesterday, how could it be on dapper for so long O_o :P
[12:00] <wildthing> i need some help
[12:00] <topyli> teroedni: can't burn a cd? i burn all my cds with it
[12:00] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition
[12:00] <Hobbsee> NoWhereMan: there was a...beta version of it, i think - it wasnt official, and kept getting updated
[12:00] <NoWhereMan> huh ok I see
[12:01] <liable> Ng: then who files bugs? :)
[12:01] <wildthing> i 've just discovered ubuntu and i want to install qt on it
[12:01] <moodog> Morning all :)
[12:01] <teroedni> topyli:From where
[12:01] <eksajm> in what archive can i find unrar nonfree?
[12:01] <neville> hey, there has to be a legal (and clean) way to install realplayer!? come on
[12:01] <topyli> teroedni: right click on the iso, choose "burn"
[12:01] <wildthing> hey guys can u help me
[12:01] <topyli> or write, or whatever
[12:02] <NoWhereMan> neville, maybe universe repository?
[12:02] <Blaxter> maybe
[12:02] <NoWhereMan> neville, i meant MULTiverse
[12:02] <olicat> any ideas how i can get openoffice base to open an mdb file? or are there any apps that can do it?
[12:02] <Ng> liable: as a general rule of thumb, if you need to ask about the development branch, you don't want to be running it
[12:02] <Blaxter> or dl the installer @ web
[12:02] <topyli> eksajm: it's in multiverse
[12:03] <philippe__> Hi there
[12:03] <wildthing> where is the .profile plz?
[12:03] <philippe__> Happy new year
[12:03] <teroedni> topyli:THanks dident see that
[12:03] <eksajm> okey read the conversation above, and had never heard of it before. thanks mate
[12:03] <topyli> teroedni: doesn't get much easier does it :)
[12:03] <NoWhereMan> neville, there it is http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/realplayer
[12:04] <olicat> any ideas how i can get openoffice base to open an mdb file? or are there any apps that can do it?
[12:04] <Hendikins> NoWhereMan: 8.0? Are you nuts?
[12:05] <eksajm> Hendikins, have you read the wiki on codecs?
[12:05] <NoWhereMan> Hendikins, lol didn't see the ver :P
[12:05] <teroedni> no true
[12:05] <eksajm> i think there is a topic of realplayer
[12:05] <topyli> olicat: your patience lasts 1 min 20 seconds
[12:05] <eksajm> but i doubt you'd like what is says
[12:05] <teroedni> unfortunally it doesnt run without live cd:(
[12:05] <moodog> neville: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <Hendikins> eksajm: I don't need to install RealPlayer. I don't even use Ubuntu. neville is the one with the problem.
[12:05] <topyli> olicat: if you mean access databases, no openoffice cannot open them
[12:05] <olicat> topyli, it goes down in 20 second increments
[12:05] <topyli> :)
[12:05] <olicat> damn
[12:06] <L-seifer> hello
[12:06] <topyli> olicat: you may find some conversion scripts on freshmeat.net
[12:06] <olicat> i'll have a look, ta
[12:06] <eksajm> moodog, thats the wiki i talked about
[12:06] <neville> thank you, NoWhereMan. Hope it will work now.
[12:06] <spikeh> some applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?
[12:07] <moodog> eksajm: just though pointing to the correct page might help.  I'll ignore the fact that that page is the first response on google if you type "ubuntu realplayer"
[12:07] <L-seifer> could somebody please instruct me how to troubleshoot my X11 problem on Ubuntu Breezy, after building the native NVIDIA driver for 2.6.12, i get on startx "no screens found". and i cant seem to fix it after using the same entries that work on debian unstable
[12:08] <teroedni> topyli:What is the burn command in terminal?
[12:08] <moodog> ;)
[12:08] <TengkSA> What is the Boot Master program for Ubuntu and how do I access it?
[12:08] <TengkSA> Seveas,  are u there?
[12:08] <teroedni> im not giving up yet
[12:08] <morphix> hmm...
[12:08] <sirex> TengkSA: /boot/grub
[12:08] <morphix> how do i find out where openssl installation is?
[12:09] <moodog> L-seifer: what does lsmod | grep nvidia return ?
[12:09] <topyli> teroedni: cdrecord -dev=XXXX -speed=XXX file.iso (or something. i always have to read the man page)
[12:09] <morphix> i KNOW its installed.. but during compile.. the script cant seem to find it :(
[12:09] <Ng> L-seifer: you don't need to build the driver, it's available in the linux-restricted-modules package
[12:09] <L-seifer> moodog, the module is loaded
[12:09] <TengkSA> Does anyone know a lot about booting windows once ubuntu is installed? i would really appreciate if someone could help me
[12:09] <blue-frog> olicat, u can use use msaccess with openoffice read their faq on the websirte
[12:09] <L-seifer> Ng, but not the latest available version
[12:10] <spikeh> some applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?
[12:10] <sirex> TengkSA: boot loader on ubuntu is grub, config you can find on /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:10] <moodog> L-seifer: I assume you have Driver "nvidia" in the device sextion of your xorg.conf ?
[12:11] <blue-frog> topyli, openoffice2 opens msaccess...
[12:11] <L-seifer> moodog, yes
[12:11] <TengkSA> sirex,  but can you help me with adding windows to that list
[12:11] <topyli> blue-frog: it does?
[12:12] <blue-frog> yes
[12:12] <topyli> blue-frog: nice. i guess :)
[12:12] <sirex> TengkSA: if windows was intalled when you install ubuntu, then windows automaticali apears in that list..
[12:12] <TengkSA> sirex,  it doesnt
[12:12] <topyli> olicat: see blue-frog's good news
[12:13] <philippe__> Hi there, should someone give me some help for my printer ?
[12:13] <sirex> TengkSA: well, then just google for it and you find what you want, I thing there only need to add partition and its all..
[12:14] <TengkSA> sirex, what do i search for?
[12:14] <sirex> TengkSA: search query: grub ubuntu menu.lst
[12:15] <Nabiki> Anyone know the status of wifi under linux? ^_^ heheheh :P
[12:15] <vega-> philippe__: nobodys going to help someone who asks for "help", just ask a specific question to a specific problem...
[12:16] <topyli> Nabiki: yeah. i don't have it
[12:16] <morphix> how do i find out where openssl 'binary' is installed?? i need it to compile this app.
[12:17] <Ng> morphix: "which openssl"
[12:17] <Ng> morphix: probably /usr/bin/
[12:17] <couleur> salu
[12:17] <blue-frog> topyli, olicat the faq on ooo is for oo1 for oo2 it's even simpler to use mdb, just follow the wizard of oo base..
[12:17] <couleur> how are you
[12:18] <neville> sh... that realplayer-package is for 32 bit - i got amd64... is there a pack which fits
[12:18] <neville>  sh... that realplayer-package is for 32 bit - i got amd64... is there a pack which fits?
[12:18] <moodog> neville: think we heard you the first time
[12:19] <neville> just some lines above: (.deb pack for realplayer)
[12:22] <grantashman> Hey all.
[12:22] <grantashman> Anyone have any clue on how to change the resolution/refresh rate on GDM/Login Screen?
[12:22] <morphix> i dont get this.
[12:22] <TengkSA> whats that command for terminal to see all of your hard drives and partitions
[12:23] <sirex> TengkSA: sudo fdisk -l
[12:23] <intelikey> this is really sad.  i can't install gpm_1.19.6ubuntu.deb  with apt-get install it errors out with dpkg it errors out....
[12:23] <morphix> n
[12:23] <morphix> NG: SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/bin/".
[12:23] <vega-> TengkSA: cat /proc/partitions
[12:23] <morphix> doing 'which openssl' gives /usr/bin/openssl
[12:23] <morphix> :(
[12:24] <TengkSA> sirex,  can i talk to u in private please im just a bit confused i need to paste a few lines
[12:25] <Dark-boy> ei
[12:25] <Dark-boy> alguem pod da uma ajuda??
[12:25] <intelikey> did any of you know that /proc had to be mounted for console mouse to work ?
[12:27] <Ng> intelikey: /proc needs to be mounted for a lot of things to work :)
[12:27] <Ng> generally it should always be mounted
[12:27] <intelikey> Ng it needs to be umounted to secure this system.
[12:28] <Ng> err
[12:28] <Ng> no :)
[12:28] <voipbox> hallo
[12:28] <intelikey> ok i think that's everything....
[12:29] <intelikey> be back in a few.
[12:29] <Ng> intelikey: if you are thinking that unmounting /proc is going to secure something that has a mouse, you're wrong, I'd say ;)
[12:29] <voipbox> hi everybody
[12:31] <TengkSA> when i use the fdisk command it says my 80gb hard drive is hda2 but in my Places -> Computer  HDA1 is my 80gb hard drive? is it just the way that it has been mounted
[12:32] <moodog> hda is the disk
[12:32] <moodog> 1&2 are partions
[12:32] <TengkSA> oh sorry i never saw hdb is the 80gb
[12:32] <hunika> hello
[12:32] <hunika> help me
[12:33] <TengkSA> moodog,  so therefore in my boot settings if windows is in hda2 would i set it to be
[12:33] <hunika> how do i disable my firewall?
[12:33] <TengkSA> moodog, root (hd0,1)
[12:33] <liable> hunika: you dont have one.. (unless you installed one)
[12:34] <moodog> windows tends to want to be the first partion on the first disk.
[12:34] <hunika> liable: I have installed something
[12:34] <moodog> hunika: which firewall do you have?
[12:34] <hunika> liable: KMyFirewall
[12:34] <liable> hunika: so uninstall it?
[12:34] <hunika> liable: now i can not disable it
[12:34] <liable> hunika: or learn how to use it?
[12:34] <hunika> liable: if i uninstall it
[12:34] <moodog> hunika: what do the docs say?
[12:34] <tahorg> hunika: try a $iptables -F
[12:35] <hunika> liable: my net does not worls
[12:35] <tahorg> s/\$//
[12:35] <TengkSA> moodog, how do i do a virtual swap between the 2 partitions
[12:35] <hunika> tahorg: where? how?
[12:35] <tahorg> hunika: forget.
[12:35] <hunika> tahord: how can i shut down it? simply?
[12:35] <liable> hunika: there must be a menu thingo for it.. turn it off..
[12:35] <moodog> TengkSA: not sure what you want to do... sorry "virtual swap?"
[12:35] <hunika> no there is not just uninstall
[12:36] <theturtl> anyone know if there is a guide to tomcat5 on ubuntu?
[12:36] <TengkSA> i saw it on this one help site so it makes windows think that my first partition has windows and 2nd has ubuntu
[12:36] <hunika> liable: and if i uninstall it than my net does not works\
[12:36] <tahorg> hunika: explain "my net doesn't work"
[12:37] <hunika> tahorg: I can not connect to the internet, I can not open a website, I can not chat with yo
[12:37] <hunika> u
[12:37] <liable> hunika: i havent ever used it, sorry i guess i'll leave you in better hands..
[12:37] <hunika> liable: somebody told me that i should install a firewall and i installed it and now
[12:38] <stark-johan> is there a antivirus program for ubuntu that's "the" antivirus program or will I just have to find my favourite? I'd love some tips anyhow.
[12:38] <liable> hunika: but if it is a ubuntu package, and you uninstall it, and it breaks the network, then its broken...
[12:38] <bimberi> stark-johan: clam-av seems to get recommended a lot
[12:38] <hunika> liable: what should i do, how should i uninstall it?
[12:38] <liable> hunika: how did you install it to start with?
[12:39] <intelikey> gpm is broken.  and yes i tried it with /proc mounted also.
[12:39] <hunika> liable: I installed with adept package manager.
[12:39] <TengkSA> moodog,           grub> map (hd0) (hd1)
[12:39] <TengkSA>           grub> map (hd1) (hd0)
[12:39] <TengkSA> how do i carry out those commands
[12:39] <teroedni> topyli:Thanks for your help, unfortunally this livecd wont work. ut thanks for your time:
[12:40] <teroedni> :)
[12:40] <moodog> TengkSA: grub> would suggest you run them from the grub console.
[12:40] <moodog> so type sudo grub?
[12:40] <theturtl> Anyone ever installed Tomcat on ubuntu?
[12:40] <liable> hunika: apt-get?? so uninstall it with it too. sorry, i am off to bed. good luck
[12:41] <topyli> teroedni: get a little floppy distro like tomsrtbt and burn the install iso with it
[12:41] <chemaFPA> Hi, im try to isnsall samba with swat, but swat dont work, in Debian swat use /etc/inetd.conf but in Ubuntu this file is empty. How to do to init swat and samba in Ubuntu?
[12:41] <topyli> teroedni: then you'll have a working system in no time
[12:41] <TTilus> moodog: no, grub boot prompt i think
[12:42] <TengkSA> giving me an error while parsing number message
[12:42] <teroedni> topyli:I dont do floppy
[12:42] <NoWhereMan> Hi
[12:42] <intelikey> and i've got another question.  why is tty1 hosed on ubuntu ?
[12:42] <NoWhereMan> I've just updated to 2.6.15 from dapper and my usb moded worx ^^
[12:42] <teroedni> topyli:I trowed away evryone i have
[12:42] <morphix> how do i find out where openssl is installed?? i need it to compile this app.
[12:43] <NoWhereMan> now I've got this issue: I don't see the boot splash anymore
[12:43] <topyli> teroedni: don't have or don't do? it would be better to have the cd free when you're burning stuff :)
[12:43] <intelikey> morphix dpkg can tell you  man dpkg
[12:43] <teroedni> dont have
[12:43] <teroedni> only on a windows pc, but that is mission impossible
[12:43] <SirKillalot> do you know any sound converster which can change mp3 bitrate of a track?
[12:44] <SirKillalot> converter*
[12:44] <topyli> teroedni: perhaps you need to borrow somebody else's machine for a while then
[12:44] <intelikey> SirKillalot sox might
[12:44] <topyli> teroedni: or see if you can find a nice usb stick distro to do your burning on
[12:45] <teroedni> topyli:Yes i have usb disk:D
[12:45] <teroedni> anyway i put the livecd in dvd now
[12:45] <teroedni> :)
[12:46] <topyli> teroedni: sounds like a plan :)
[12:46] <teroedni> yea but i have to download again><
[12:46] <intelikey> anybody ever investigate what it is that messes up the fonts on tty1 ?
[12:46] <teroedni> Topyli:Thanks for the help:)
[12:47] <topyli> happy hacking
[12:48] <kino-tak> Goodyear and Michelin everybody!!!!
[12:53] <Seveas> kino-tak, doh :p
[12:54] <kino-tak> :-)
[12:54] <kino-tak> Does anybody know any good H323 client for ubuntu?
[12:55] <topyli> the year is very old. so old in fact that i've already paid the bills due at the end of last year :)
[12:55] <Ng> kino-tak: gnome meeting?
[12:55] <topyli> gnomemeeting is about all we have
[12:56] <Ng> ohphone claims to be an h323 client
[12:59] <Seveas> kino-tak, H323?
[01:02] <utada> hello , i just installed ubuntu breezy dual booting with winxp, and i get shortcuts on my gnome desktop to those xp partitions, but i don't want to access those via ubuntu, how do i make them go away?
[01:03] <teroedni> live cd wont mount the other cdrom
[01:03] <teroedni> hrmf
[01:03] <utada> it's not a live cd
[01:03] <utada> i actually installed it
[01:03] <utada> and i'm dual booting with winxp
[01:04] <morphix> utada.. unmount them.
[01:04] <utada> i just wanna unmount and get rid of those shortcuts, cuz i don't intend to access those xp partitions via ubuntu
[01:04] <utada> how?
[01:04] <morphix> you know 'where' they are mounted?
[01:04] <utada> hd1
[01:04] <utada> hda1
[01:05] <morphix> if they show up on ur desktop then usually they are mounted in /media/*
[01:05] <Belutz> check the /etc/fstab
[01:05] <utada> it won't delete them or anything if i unmount them wouldn't it?
[01:06] <Belutz> no, it won't delete them
[01:06] <utada> i can find /etc/fstab
[01:06] <morphix> this is bullcrap..
[01:07] <utada> i mean i CAN'T find /etc/fstab
[01:07] <Belutz> morphix, are you in sydney?
[01:07] <morphix> i installed openssl to /usr/loca/ssl .. but during compile it says that its NOT installed there
[01:07] <morphix> :@
[01:07] <morphix> Belutz: i
[01:07] <morphix> i'm* 2 hours from there
[01:07] <Belutz> morphix, i see
[01:07] <morphix> central coast
[01:07] <morphix> why?
[01:07] <Belutz> morphix, i just have been there :p
[01:07] <morphix> cool.
[01:07] <utada> please how do i unmount them?
[01:08] <hat> !w32codecs
[01:08] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:08] <Belutz> utada, do you want to unmount them permanently?
[01:08] <pa_l> Hi, when configuring sip-4.3.2, where do i set the QTDIR enviroment variable to?
[01:08] <utada> yes i do belutz
[01:09] <utada> i have no intention of accessing my windows partitions via ubuntu ever
[01:09] <Belutz> utada, with your terminal type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:10] <utada> ok i did
[01:10] <Belutz> utada, and remove the line that has /media/*
[01:10] <utada> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <utada> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <utada> just remove them?
[01:10] <Belutz> hmm
[01:10] <morphix> hda5 = swap partition
[01:10] <utada> i don't see a line that says media
[01:10] <morphix> oh wait no
[01:10] <morphix> oops.
[01:10] <utada> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:10] <utada> #
[01:10] <utada> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:10] <utada> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <utada> /dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:11] <Belutz> yup, but in case you need them... just add # in the front of the line
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:11] <utada> sorry
[01:11] <Belutz> utada, please don't paste in here
[01:11] <utada> sorry :(
[01:11] <utada> won't removing those line delete them completly?
[01:11] <Mabus06> comment them out, or backup the file
[01:11] <Mabus06> or both
[01:11] <Belutz>  just add # in the front of the  /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 line
[01:11] <utada> oh ok
[01:11] <utada> thanx
[01:12] <utada> no but i mean
[01:12] <utada> will i be able to load xp if i want to?
[01:12] <kemik> yes
[01:12] <Belutz> you still be able to boot to windows xp
[01:12] <utada> thanx
[01:12] <stark-johan> I've installed clamAV but Im not sure on how to update it using freshclam, the synaptic package seems to be outdated (according to freshclam)
[01:12] <utada> i'll try it out
[01:12] <Mabus06> I don't know, I just started reading now, don't really know what I'm looking at. ;-)
[01:12] <Mabus06> but yeah, backup the file
[01:13] <SillyZ> mornin
[01:13] <SillyZ> need a little vmware help, I config it via vmware-config.pl, and after the config completes successfully, i try to run it and it says its not configured??.... any ideas? ( ubuntu breezy 5.1 )
[01:14] <topyli> doesn't vmware have some support that actually knows something about vmware?
[01:15] <morphix> this is really pissing me off. can someone plz help me with this compiling.. it says ssl installed but binary NOT where i KNOW it is.
[01:16] <Mabus06> there are often "die" lines or something equivalent in config files that you have to remove... to make sure you've completely configured
[01:16] <Seveas> morphix, apt-get install libssl-dev
[01:16] <bettong_BOFH> i'm starting to think that mozillas spam filters suck >.<
[01:16] <Seveas> !tell morphix about compiling
[01:16] <Mabus06> agreed, bettong_BOFH
[01:17] <Mabus06> Well.. more like, spammers have more money to develop ways of spamming you, than mozilla has to protect you from it.
[01:17] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, mozilla thunderbird?
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> yea
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> i had 33 emails and all where spam
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> for some reason they think i need bigger boobs O_o
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> i don't think they realize that i am a guy lol
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> morons
[01:17] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin might do a better job
[01:17] <Mabus06> Oh I thought you meant the popup blocker.
[01:17] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, i see, have you tried thunderbird 1.5 rc ?
[01:18] <Mabus06> Use gmail.
[01:18] <stupidclient> oh ok ... was gonna say is possable to a server on ubuntu but looks like its been answered
[01:18] <metho> can i ask u really noob question, (its about firewall), i just installed firehole or something using Synaptic but i dont know where it is installed!!!! could u help me!
[01:18] <Mabus06> Only spam that gets through to me is when the sender part is forged to someone in my address book.
[01:18] <stupidclient> *to run a server
[01:18] <SillyZ> topyli, thanks but I think I found the answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare    for anyone else who wants to know
[01:18] <bettong_BOFH> i'm useing 1.0.7
[01:18] <Mabus06> metho, whats it called? firestarter?
[01:18] <Belutz> Mabus06, my gmail still accepting spams :p
[01:19] <metho> mabus06. i think its called firehole
[01:19] <Mabus06> try typing "firehole" at a terminal
[01:19] <bettong_BOFH> so what would you reccomend Belutz for a good email app thats gonna get rid of this spam?
[01:19] <Mabus06> or go to places > search... type firehole
[01:19] <topyli> metho: where did you get it? nothing like that on the repos
[01:19] <Mabus06> why do you need to know "where it's installed" though?
[01:20] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, well, i only use sylpheed-claws to pop my email from gmail, cause i don't have any other pop enabled email
[01:20] <metho> mabus06. sorry its called firehol
[01:20] <bettong_BOFH> it's driveing me nut's is there some way to like filter emails by putting addresses in from only those you wish to receve mail from?
[01:20] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok
[01:20] <stupidclient> cheers anyway......bye bye
[01:20] <Mabus06> why do you need to know where it's installed, metho ?
[01:20] <bettong_BOFH> so like if the people are not on my list i don't get the mail?
[01:21] <morphix> still doesnt help
[01:21] <intelikey> is there anyway to fix the consoles in ubuntu ?
[01:21] <metho> mabus06. so i can configure or i may want to know what it is blocking or what isnt!!!
[01:21] <morphix> i HAVE openssl.
[01:21] <Mabus06> try running the program...
[01:21] <Mabus06> or read man firehol
[01:21] <topyli> metho: ok, it seems like a simple firewall script. the config file is probably somewhere under /etc/firehol, and the init script in /etc/init.d
[01:21] <Mabus06> as I said, search for files, type firehol
[01:22] <metho> topyli: oh i see: isnt there a GUI firewall for ubuntu 5.10
[01:22] <topyli> metho: sure. firestarter
[01:22] <Mabus06> firestarter
[01:22] <Mabus06> this ain't XP though, I've gotten along fine without a firewall
[01:23] <metho> topyli: thanks, i'll install that!
[01:23] <topyli> metho: do you have a reason to fiddle with firewalls?
[01:24] <metho> topyli: not really m8, i just read somewhere that Linux isnt that secure anymore so i decided to protect my data (thats all)
[01:24] <bettong_BOFH> so is there a way to filter email by a list that has only those people you want to receve emails from?
[01:24] <topyli> metho: tha't hogwash
[01:24] <topyli> *that's
[01:24] <McJerry> morphix: you still got problem?
[01:25] <magrao> join #ubuntu-br
[01:25] <metho> topyli: lol
[01:25] <Hendikins> metho: and a certain OS that has a WMF flaw is secure? :P
[01:25] <topyli> metho: protecting your data is good of course. firewalls don't help you with it one bit though
[01:25] <Hendikins> (and they reckon that WMF flaw may go back as far as Win 3.0 too)
[01:25] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, maybe you should manually create the filters one by one?
[01:25] <metho> topyli: so what would u suggest for protecting data
[01:26] <bettong_BOFH> if i where going to do that in thunderbird how would i?
[01:26] <morphix> McJerry yes
[01:26] <Mabus06> bettong_BOFH, don't most email providers have an option to only accept addresses from your contact list? I think even hotmail has that.
[01:26] <morphix> McJerry i am trying to compile this.. and it needs the location of openssl install
[01:26] <bettong_BOFH> i have charter email and i am looking for that kind of option now
[01:26] <morphix> i have specified the dir.. but it still insists it ISNT there
[01:27] <McJerry> what are you trying to compile?
[01:27] <morphix> i feel like throwing the box out the windw
[01:27] <metho> topyli: one general question, would linux be alrite, i mean secure enoguh to protect data without a firewall?
[01:27] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, there's a menu called "Filter" but i don't remember the menu hierarchy
[01:27] <morphix> psyBNC
[01:27] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[01:27] <morphix> with ssl.
[01:27] <Mabus06> metho, get a external hd for important data
[01:27] <Mabus06> protect data for what purpose, metho
[01:28] <McJerry> morphix: not familiar with psyBNC, but gimme a sec to look
[01:28] <topyli> metho: yes. keep your services (if any) secure, and don't be a fool when doing admin stuff
[01:28] <morphix> ok cool.
[01:29] <topyli> metho: have good passwords and use ssh for talking to/from the outside world
[01:29] <metho> Mabus06: protecting from hackers, i mean i just got my online backing id, thats what i decided to install firewall but if u think linux is secure enoguh than i wont mess with it
[01:30] <metho> topyli: ssh? sorry i am noob in Linux world and i dont know what u mean
[01:30] <Belutz> anyone knows when will firefox 1.5 available in the repos?
[01:30] <Mabus06> secure shell
[01:30] <topyli> metho: seems like you don't need it either :)
[01:30] <Mabus06> in dapper, belutz
[01:30] <Hendikins> A firewall is part of the security framework. It is not the be all and end all.
[01:30] <Belutz> Mabus06, i see
[01:31] <intelikey> only secure box is the one not plugged in.
[01:31] <Mabus06> And considering you have to have ports open anyway if you want to be online, people can still get in if they really wanted and knew how.
[01:31] <Hendikins> intelikey: and dropped on the ocean floor encased in steel and concrete
[01:31] <Mabus06> Wise words, intelikey. lol
[01:31] <Mabus06> And even then, not secure from your household.
[01:31] <topyli> metho: if you want to run a service for the outside world, you don't want to firewall it out anyway. and ports with no services listening to them are pretty much dead ports
[01:32] <metho> topyli: now u talking!!! thanks for all your help
[01:32] <Mabus06> metho Setting up firewall scripts you don't understand will cause you more problems than any potential (and unlikely) 'hackers'
[01:32] <intelikey> Mabus06 i meant the AC plug    as in no power at all.
[01:33] <Mabus06> Even then, intelikey, I can take out the HD and put it in my box..
[01:33] <McJerry> morphix : what dir are you telling psyBNC for ssl
[01:33] <metho> Mabus06: thx for the advise, i decided not to install firewall
[01:33] <morphix> McJerry: /usr/local/ssl
[01:34] <intelikey> Mabus06 that does not make the box you removed it from nsecure'
[01:34] <metho> Mabus06: i have removed firehol as well
[01:34] <morphix> put the case in a safe :P
[01:34] <morphix> thats secure.
[01:34] <Jack-Ho> hey, i have an rar arcvih and it protected whith pass, i know the pass but how can i extrc him?
[01:34] <Mabus06> metho, don't ruleout using firestarter or something, if you feel like it
[01:34] <Jack-Ho> unrar -x file
[01:34] <Jack-Ho> dosnt work
[01:35] <McJerry> morphix: i have openssl installed also, and typing ls /usr/local/ssl returns no such directory
[01:35] <Seicherl> hi there! How good is ubuntu/linux in read-writing NTFS systems?
[01:35] <Mabus06> how 'good'?
[01:35] <morphix> i remove openssl.. then compiled it..
[01:35] <b0ris> Seicherl, Good at reading for sure
[01:35] <metho> Mabus06: hmmmmmm, ok i'll give firestarter a shot!!!
[01:35] <Mabus06> About as good as the user knows how to make it do.
[01:35] <smo> I hate to say it, but ntfs write support on linux is nothing short of dangerous
[01:36] <morphix> it installed to /usr/local/ssl
[01:36] <Hendikins> Linux in general is not good for writing ntfs
[01:36] <intelikey> i can't seem to get tty1 to display properly,  has any of you ever tried ?
[01:36] <morphix> it has all the files in there, etc
[01:36] <topyli> metho: a firewall is handy when you have clients on the network and want to do NAT or something. or, when you have temporary experimental services you can't be bothered to configure properly :)
[01:36] <Mabus06> ever tried? um yeah, sure... intelikey
[01:36] <morphix> including the openssl in the /usr/local/ssl/bin folder
[01:36] <Hendikins> There is a wrapper for the Windows NTFS driver, but I don't know how well that works on Ubuntu.
[01:36] <b0ris> Seicherl, did not try writing, but it is known to be quite hazardous
[01:36] <Seicherl> ok, so i will need a FAT-Partition, when running stupid win AND ubuntu on one machine
[01:37] <Hendikins> Using FAT32 for data would be desirable, yes.
[01:37] <metho> topyli: the computer i am using atm is client of my home network!!!!
[01:37] <morphix> Seicherl: u can do it a dif way.. use windows to copy stuff to ur linux hdd
[01:37] <Seicherl> ok, i thought so. just think asking is for free ;)
[01:37] <morphix> using ext2ifs
[01:37] <Seicherl> ??
[01:37] <metho> topyli: i think firestarter would be good choice for home network, what u think?
[01:37] <b0ris> Seicherl, if you can afford it, use a network drive (samba share) to share your data between Win and Unix.  Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[01:40] <Mabus06> what do you mean by mc... I just connected with irssi and said that... you weren't very specific
[01:41] <Mabus06> ok
[01:41] <Hendikins> Seicherl: Well, if you're the only user, anything else is adding needless complexity to the situation.
[01:41] <Seicherl> ok, another one: when installing ubuntu, a friend told me, i can shrink my ntfs-partition easily. that true?
[01:41] <metho> topyli: thanks topyli, only if i found it where it is installed. one question how do u find in general where ur programs are installed, i mean in windows its in program files but how do u find in Linux!!!
[01:41] <Mabus06> I'll try it out, intelikey
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> Seicherl: yes
[01:41] <intelikey> Mabus06 yes irssi is hosed too on tty1    you are on tty1  not tty2  ?
[01:41] <Seicherl> how easy is easy
[01:41] <pa_l> where can i find realplayer
[01:41] <Hendikins> Seicherl: I know that Linux installers can shrink NTFS, but I suggest defragging the NTFS volume first
[01:42] <pa_l> or any compatible media players that can play .ram files
[01:42] <topyli> metho: you don't care. the commands will be in your path, and if there's a GUI, it will be in the menu
[01:42] <Seicherl> Hendikins: thats what i'm doing right now
[01:42] <pa_l> reaplayer on realplayer.com is not working here.
[01:42] <mik3> vlc media player is really good, videolan.org i think
[01:42] <intelikey> Mabus06 tty2-63  work fine.  only tty1 is borkd
[01:42] <Mabus06> I am on X, intelikey
[01:42] <Seicherl> anybody running ubuntu on a thinkpad?
[01:42] <Mabus06> mabus07 connnected on tty1
[01:42] <pa_l> mik3 i have vlc but it doesnt play .ram files
[01:42] <topyli> metho: the binaries should go to /usr/bin, libraries to /usr/lib and so on. there's no "Program Files" directory
[01:42] <mik3> k
[01:42] <Mabus06> intelikey, but he quit in order to install mc to check it out
[01:43] <intelikey> Mabus06 and Mabus07 not same ?
[01:43] <Hendikins> Seicherl: Do you have specific questions about using Ubuntu on thinkpads?
[01:43] <metho> topyli: i get it, cheers
[01:43] <Mabus06> intelikey, no, we are the same, but we were connected on different terminals
[01:43] <Seicherl> Hendikins: not now, but i will soon ;)
[01:43] <Mabus06> intelikey, and... mc works just fine for me, and this install is pretty close to the default
[01:44] <topyli> metho: if you're interested, it's all here: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[01:44] <Seicherl> Hendikins: I found some howtos for debian, but not yet for ubuntu
[01:44] <Hendikins> Seicherl: Checked the Ubuntu wiki?
[01:45] <Seicherl> not yet. can you hand me the url?
[01:45] <topyli> Seicherl: debian documentation is good for ubuntu as well
[01:45] <Seicherl> thx
[01:45] <metho> topyli: offcourse i am inerested m8, i dont wana be noob anymore, its been 2 months since i started using linux!!! LOL
[01:45] <topyli> heh
[01:45] <intelikey> hmmmm so you are telling me that on your box mc looks the same on tty1 as it does on tty*+1  ????    then why the hell doesn't mine ?
[01:45] <Hendikins> Seicherl: The Ubuntu wiki is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[01:45] <Seicherl> I got only a bit of debian experience. will i be able to handle ubuntu?
[01:45] <ubuntu_> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how i make X use my own xorg.conf in the ubuntu live cd environment (5.10), it doesnt seem to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i logout
[01:45] <Seicherl> Hendikins: thx for that!
[01:46] <captainredbeard> anybody here able to help me with VMware?
[01:46] <Hendikins> captainredbeard: We can't if you don't ask us a question :)
[01:46] <alamba> captain: sure...shoot!!
[01:47] <Seicherl> everybody: thanks so far! I'm pretty sure i'll show up here again the next days! But thanks for your support so far!! happy new year!
[01:47] <captainredbeard> ok Hendikins, it works fine without networking, but no matter which one i try it doesn't work. And if I used bridged networking, and enable it, VMware hangs, and sometimes drags ubuntu down with it
[01:47] <intelikey> installing svgatextmode to see if that helps.
[01:47] <Hendikins> captainredbeard: First things first, are you using Breezy and VMware 5.5.1?
[01:48] <morphix> WHY THE <CENSORED>
[01:48] <captainredbeard> Hendikins, breezy with kernel image 686, VMware5.5.0 build 18463
[01:48] <Hendikins> If it is reasonable, take 5.5.1 for a spin. Your problem may be fixed in the later version.
[01:48] <metho> topyli: again i m being noob! how do i find out firestarted, it should be in menu as it is a GUI but its not there
[01:49] <morphix> this linux box will end up outside any second now.
[01:49] <Seveas> morphix, that would be a waste
[01:49] <topyli> metho: should be in apps -> system tools
[01:49] <neron> hello is there any1 who knows the page that tells you how to install latest java support for firefox in ubuntu?!?
[01:49] <Seveas> !javadeb
[01:49] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:49] <Seveas> ^-- neron
[01:49] <captainredbeard> Hendikins, I've read of others having the same problem with different versions aswell, theres a patch for it, but not for version 5.5
[01:49] <morphix> Seveas well it isnt like its fkn working
[01:50] <metho> topyli: no m8 its not there
[01:50] <Seveas> morphix, please elaborate, we may help
[01:50] <topyli> metho: if your menu hasn't updated, just run "sudo firestarter" from a terminal. you'll probably only need to run it once anyway
[01:50] <morphix> i've told.
[01:50] <Seveas> morphix, k, I'll read back :)
[01:50] <topyli> metho: linux firewalls don't need to be running all the time. the gui is just for configuration, and then it's done
[01:50] <Hendikins> neron: Interestingly enough, I'm writing up a page about Firefox plugins on Ubuntu. It lives at http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html
[01:50] <topyli> metho: it just sets some rules for the iptables in the kernel, and quits
[01:51] <morphix> i am trying to compile psyBNC with ssl.. but it keeps coming up that the dir i specified doesnt contain the openssl binary
[01:51] <morphix> yet i know it does.
[01:51] <neron> gotta check that ;)
[01:51] <morphix> i have tried like 10 dirs.. and used locate ,etc also even compiled openssl and tried do it that way
[01:51] <morphix> nothing will work.
[01:51] <kenkku> I'm trying to get teamspeak working, which audio source should I use.. the default (/dev/dsp) isn't working
[01:51] <metho> topyli: i see,
[01:51] <Seveas> morphix, for compiling you need openssl headers (package libssl-dev), these headers are in /usr/include or /usr/include/openssl
[01:52] <morphix> i have also used that dir
[01:52] <morphix> it still says the same.
[01:52] <TengkSA> Seveas, !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:52] <Seveas> morphix, did you install that package?
[01:52] <topyli> metho: it installs a script in your bootup sequence. the script applies the kernel rules at every boot, so you don't need to worry
[01:52] <Seveas> if so: pastebin the complete output of configure and/or make
[01:52] <Seveas> in the mean time, I'm hiding from TengkSA
[01:53] <metho> topyli:i see, so basically u just configure once and thats it?
[01:53] <TengkSA> Seveas, im dead im fcked
[01:53] <morphix> Seveas: yes
[01:53] <morphix> Seveas: SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/".
[01:53] <Seveas> TengkSA, how?
[01:53] <topyli> metho: that's it
[01:54] <metho> topyli:i see, so basically u just configure once and thats it
[01:54] <metho> topyli: sorry, lol
[01:54] <captainredbeard> !vmware
[01:54] <morphix> SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/openssl/".
[01:54] <morphix> same thing
[01:54] <hk> captainredbeard,  hmm vmware 5.5.1 works fine on breezy (amd64)
[01:54] <morphix> GRR
[01:54] <Seveas> morphix, hmm, what if you simpy use /usr?
[01:54] <captainredbeard> hk, with netowrking?
[01:54] <Seveas> the openssl binary is in /usr/lib/
[01:54] <hk> yea
[01:54] <topyli> metho: if you want to monitor the blocked traffic, you can of course keep the GUI open
[01:54] <captainredbeard> hk, i'll give it a shot then
[01:54] <TengkSA> Seveas, i cant get back in to windows no matter how hard i try
[01:55] <morphix> Seveas
[01:55] <morphix> OMG
[01:55] <topyli> metho: but watching misconfigured windows boxen trying to connect to you gets pretty boring after a while :)
[01:55] <hk> captainredbeard, Im connecting my winXP VM to a samba server in another box ;)
[01:55] <morphix> it worked
[01:55] <morphix> LOL.
[01:55] <morphix> thanks
[01:55] <Seveas> morphix, cool :)
[01:55] <Seveas> now for the next error from ./configure ;)
[01:55] <TengkSA> What software do you use BESIDES MythTV to watch tv from a tv card in ubuntu?
[01:55] <morphix> i know i can always rely on u guys(or girls) in here :)
[01:55] <Mabus06> it's what makes ubuntu the best, moritz
[01:56] <Mabus06> morphix, that is
[01:56] <metho> topyli: i am configuring firestarter now, but i am keep getting the following error "the local area and connected internet connected devices can not be the same"
[01:56] <topyli> metho: they can't. :)
[01:56] <topyli> metho: since your box is a client, you only have a internet device
[01:57] <TengkSA> aeveas what do u recommend i do
[01:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, ^^ ^^
[01:57] <lotuz> Hi, i have just reinstalld ubuntu, And I need to run Windows at the same time, but when i chose "Windows" in the Grub menu it stops after "root savedefault
[01:57] <lotuz> makeactive
[01:57] <lotuz>  chainloader	+1"  pls help....
[01:57] <Seveas> TengkSA, completely wipe windows and use only Ubuntu
[01:57] <TengkSA> What program can i use to watch TV from a TV Card besides MythTV, anyone?!?
[01:57] <metho> topyli: network device? so basically i dont need to share my connection cos i am client?
[01:57] <Seveas> but that may not be what you want :)
[01:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, : i have to use windows too
[01:57] <topyli> metho: right
[01:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, certain programs for school work etc
[01:57] <kenkku> which system should I use for audio, ALSA, ESD or OSS?
[01:58] <Mabus06> TengkSA, if you got an nvidia card, try #nvidia. if you have an ati, try #ati. if you have something else, welcome to 2006, get a real card.
[01:58] <Alpha> I think alsa is better
[01:58] <Seveas> kenkku, ESD preferably until ALSA is mature enough
[01:58] <TengkSA> Mabus06, its a tv card a proper tv tuner so i can watch tv through the aerial/satellite not a graphics card!!!!
[01:58] <Mabus06> ah
[01:58] <kenkku> so if I use ESD, where is the device to record? I'm using teamspeak and the default won't work
[01:59] <Mabus06> then you'll likely find more help where there are other people who use that sort of thing, TengkSA
[01:59] <metho> topyli: everything is working ok now, thanks very much for ur help!!!!
[01:59] <Mabus06> Or of course there's alays google.
[01:59] <Alpha> I hava a problem.The readme says DOOM3 cannot run under X700.
[01:59] <topyli> metho: later, if you want, you can open ports for bittorrent, gnutella or whatever you need
[01:59] <Mabus06> Awww... you serious, Alpha? :(
[01:59] <Alpha> Is there anything I could do about it?
[01:59] <Alpha> Yes.
[01:59] <Alpha> The readme says that.
[01:59] <Mabus06> I recently got the same card.
[01:59] <sanjay> Hi - does anyone know how I can convert .avi files to .mpeg ? is there a tool I can download in Synaptic?
[01:59] <oskude> TengkSA: xawtv, zapping, tvtime...
[02:00] <Mabus06> And I was going to reinstall doom3 today...
[02:00] <Alpha> It says fglrx have some problems.
[02:00] <Mabus06> sanjay, I hate to commit heresy here but for media manipulation I'd go with windows
[02:00] <metho> topyli: i may have to open ports cos i will install limewire this afternoon!!!! i am off now anyway so i will ask for ur help this afternoon if u r online, :)
[02:00] <Mabus06> metho, we might not be but somebody with answers likely will.. cya
[02:01] <topyli> metho: ok, i'm off to grab a beer as well :)
[02:01] <silverpower> On ppc Ubuntu, is mouse button emulation turned on, and what keys does it use?
[02:01] <sanjay> Mabus: ay ok thanks - i do dualboot, and heretically, i need to convert them to be able to edit them on premiere, so ahh well. damn. thanks.
[02:01] <oskude> btw, when i use my radeon9200pro with fglrx driver, i cant use hardware overlay with my tv card, normal ? (with radeon drivers it does work)
[02:01] <metho> topyli, Mabus06: cya later my Linux Gurus, lol
[02:01] <ubuntu_> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how i make X use my own xorg.conf in the ubuntu live cd environment (5.10), after i copy mine it doesnt seem to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i logout to restart X
[02:01] <Mabus06> Linux guru? Not quite. heh
[02:02] <TengkSA> oskude shot
[02:02] <Mabus06> sanjay, if you find a good program to convert avi to mpeg on ubuntu, let me know ;-)
[02:03] <topyli> Mabus06: better just bite the bullet and start writing good mencoder command lines :)
[02:03] <thegladiator> my browsers tend to crash frequently
[02:03] <thegladiator> wondering i f anyone has the same experience
[02:03] <Mabus06> Yeah, but then I got Ubuntu.
[02:03] <Alpha> I have a winxp on my harddisk.but it is pirated copy.
[02:04] <thegladiator> i am on ubuntu
[02:04] <Mabus06> I know, just poking fun. What browser are you using.
[02:04] <thegladiator> and I really have this annoying problem
[02:04] <Seveas> thegladiator, nope. Are you using dapper perhaps?
[02:04] <thegladiator> nope breezy
[02:04] <Alpha> Most of my friends use pirated software.
[02:04] <thegladiator> wonder why it always happens with me
[02:04] <Mabus06> the default firefox, or 1.5?
[02:04] <thegladiator> these bugs that cant be detecetd nor removed
[02:05] <thegladiator> default
[02:05] <Mabus06> Alpha, I prefer open source, just because the places you get it from aren't spam freaks like piracy places.
[02:05] <thegladiator> i didnt try 1.5 since even this version is stable or so they so
[02:05] <Seveas> thegladiator, crappy plugins/extensions perhaps
[02:05] <kemik> thegladiator:  my browsers used to crash frequently.. my RAM was bad
[02:05] <samitheberber> When can firefox1.5 be downloaded by atp-get ?
[02:05] <Alpha> But openoffice is not good enough.
[02:05] <thegladiator> kemik, i have to chcek my RAM
[02:05] <thegladiator> it is new actuallly
[02:06] <fli7e> if i'm running a pentium 4 laptop, is it benificial to run the linux-686 kernel as opposed to the linux-386 one that i'm currently running?
[02:06] <thegladiator> by if RAM is bad shudnt the system fail as sucj ?
[02:06] <kemik> thegladiator:  mmh, better run memtest a few runs
[02:06] <Mabus06> samigaru, dapper
[02:06] <Myrtti> Alpha: it's good value for the money you pay for it
[02:06] <Mabus06> samitheberber, I mean ^^
[02:06] <thegladiator> Seveas, how can i go about installin plugins ?
[02:06] <thegladiator> kemik, how ?
[02:06] <thegladiator> memtest is the command ?
[02:06] <kemik> thegladiator:  no necessarily, it sometimes frooze my comp, sometimes just shutdown apps on random
[02:06] <Alpha> Myrtti:It is too expensive.
[02:06] <thegladiator> Seveas, these things happen out of the blue , not when i open some page or something
[02:06] <Myrtti> Alpha: openoffice?
[02:06] <Myrtti> lol
[02:07] <kemik> thegladiator:  it's an option in your grub-menu when you restart your computer
[02:07] <thegladiator> kemik, whats the command from terminal ? for memtest ?
[02:07] <thegladiator> yes
[02:07] <thegladiator> i'll do that
[02:07] <thegladiator> before that i guess i need to try out freshly installing firefox ?
[02:07] <Alpha> Almost every computer in my campus uses cracked Windows XP
[02:07] <kemik> thegladiator:  it cant be run from command, you have to restart and run it "exclusively" (since nothing can be loaded in rAM whilst testing)
[02:07] <samitheberber> Mabus06: Only for Dapper, that you mean?
[02:07] <thegladiator> Seveas, how do I go about removing FF and then
[02:08] <thegladiator> reinstalling it from CD
[02:08] <thegladiator> sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox ?
[02:08] <Alpha> This is my first time to use IRC chat.It seems not very wonderful.
[02:08] <thegladiator> Alpha, whats the problem ?
[02:08] <Mabus06> samitheberber, it will be in breezy only after it's in dapper, the topic to this channel said a while ago
[02:09] <Hendikins> Alpha: IRC seems to be either friendly or scary, there's rarely any in between. This channel is the former, #debian is the latter (for example)
[02:09] <Alpha> So many people chat in the only window.
[02:09] <samitheberber> Mabus06: Ok. When Dapper goes out?
[02:09] <samitheberber> Mabus06: April 2006?
[02:09] <kemik> Alpha:  you can have more channels open and any number of private chats
[02:10] <Alpha> I see.
[02:10] <allison_1984> Hendikins/ I agree ;)
[02:10] <thegladiator> i am doing a reinstallation , just in case
[02:10] <kemik> Alpha:  and this channel is probably one of the largest channels on the net :)
[02:10] <_matt> HI Alpha, if you use kubuntu, the kubuntu channel is quieter
[02:10] <Alpha> I am using Ubuntu.
[02:10] <kemik> Alpha:  but if you need help, just ask
[02:10] <Hendikins> Gentoo is substantially bigger than this channel
[02:10] <Alpha> I have a problem about VNC.
[02:11] <thegladiator> this is the best help channel for any LINUX i have ever used
[02:11] <thegladiator> Gentoo is the only bigger one
[02:11] <Hendikins> #debian was similarly sized
[02:11] <thegladiator> but I have nothin towards Gentoo as of now
[02:11] <kemik> #debian... a very friendly channel
[02:11] <Alpha> Only One user could log on the VNC server.
[02:11] <kemik> if they ever reply its often "RTFM NOOB" ;)
[02:11] <thegladiator> i didnt use debian as such . used knoppix
[02:12] <TengkSA> PLEASE will someone help with booting windows back
[02:12] <kemik> Alpha:  yeah, i dont think VNC supports multiple sessions
[02:12] <Hendikins> kemik: I think satan will be ordering anti-freeze before #debian is friendly. #debian and #ubuntu seem to be polar opposites.
[02:12] <thegladiator> TengkSA, whats the problem ? just ask...
[02:12] <Alpha> I install vnc4serverbut it doesn't work.
[02:12] <kemik> Alpha:  you're probably wanting SSH or perhaps FreeNX(not sure about that)
[02:12] <yogii> when using dpkg -- If i have given the command dpkg -r --pending, should it remove all packages marked for removal? and if yes, when i do a dpkg -l|grep packagename  should it still show up with the "r" for removal flag?
[02:12] <TengkSA> thegladiator, i installed ubuntu yesterday and windows has been on my comp for a while... how do i boot back in to windows?
[02:12] <kemik> Hendikins:  mh they are.. i had some Q's a few years ago ... lets just say #debian wasnt of much help ....
[02:13] <thegladiator> TengkSA, you messed up during installation I think
[02:13] <kemik> TengkSA:  you'll have to restore GRUB or your MBR
[02:13] <thegladiator> you must edit grub.con
[02:13] <yogii> anyone familiar with dpkg at all?
[02:13] <Alpha> Then I try to log in through ssh ,I fail in running 'startx
[02:13] <Hendikins> kemik: My main annoyance is that they patch firefox up the wazoo then send all questions to upstream. Problem is, I basically run upstream as far as IRC is concerned.
[02:13] <TengkSA> now how do i do these things please will you guide me through
[02:13] <kemik> TengkSA:  think you can boot with the windows cd and typ fixmbw (but that will wreck grub)
[02:13] <TengkSA> i dont have a windows cd with me
[02:14] <fli7e> anyone who knows: if i'm running a pentium 4 laptop, is it benificial to run the linux-686 kernel instead of the linux-386 one that i'm currently running?
[02:14] <kemik> fli7e:  it should, in theory, be better ;)
[02:14] <irvin> fli7e, definitely
[02:14] <Alpha> Do most of you come from the western countries?
[02:14] <TengkSA> thegladiator, kemik, what do u people recommend i do
[02:14] <irvin> Alpha, not me
[02:15] <Alpha> I am in china.
[02:15] <kemik> TengkSA:  well, im not sure what the exact problem is.. but either edit your grub.conf or recover grub entirely, or last run fixmbr
[02:15] <thegladiator> reinstalling ubuntu wud be a nice idea also if you have the time
[02:15] <fli7e> kemik, so i basically what, remove linux-386 in synaptics and mark linux-686 for install and reboot?
[02:15] <thegladiator> while reinstallation ubuntu detects ur windows OS
[02:15] <Hendikins> Reinstalling the OS? What is this, Windows?
[02:15] <TengkSA> thegladiator, does that mean i need to reset all that shit like allow mp3s and stuff
[02:16] <thegladiator> TengkSA, the thing is if you dont know to play with grub i.e
[02:16] <kemik> fli7e:  dont have to remove actually, it should be just another option in grub
[02:16] <fli7e> oh, right
[02:16] <kemik> fli7e:  so just install, it's safest ;)
[02:16] <thegladiator> reinstall is just the easy way to set it back...after that I guess you will have to do those things again
[02:16] <fli7e> cool, thanks
[02:16] <TengkSA> so do i pop my ubuntu cd in
[02:16] <thegladiator> someone knows how to edit the grub to get windows back ?
[02:17] <thegladiator> i amnot sure
[02:17] <thegladiator> install cd and do a installation process again...what do you guys think ?
[02:17] <TengkSA> ive followed so many step by step things on the internet and none work
[02:17] <thegladiator> about this advice ?
[02:17] <kemik> Hendikins:  maybe you can help TengkSA ... he cant boot windows (apparently there's no such option in the grub.menu... so grub must have failed to install properly)
[02:17] <thegladiator> yeah
[02:17] <thegladiator> Hendikins, if you could help him
[02:18] <TengkSA> apparently its not a good idea if windows is installed on a 2nd partition
[02:18] <kemik> thegladiator:  i dont think a re-installation should be neccessary
[02:18] <thegladiator> my method is laborious
[02:18] <Hendikins> kemik: I don't use Ubuntu. I'm here to handle Firefox questions for downstream, in the main.
[02:18] <thegladiator> neither me
[02:18] <thegladiator> but if you dont know the grub related stuff thats called for...
[02:18] <kemik> Hendikins:  i c :) didnt think they had new FF in ubuntu repos
[02:19] <Hendikins> kemik: Who said anything about 1.5?
[02:19] <Mabus06> kemik, quite sure they dont
[02:19] <TengkSA> so what do i do boys
[02:19] <silverpower> How do I enable mouse button emulation under Ubuntu? I need it to get my Powerbook fully working.
[02:19] <sanjay> TengkSA: I do a dualboot with windows -- i can give u my grub.conf and menu.lst settings, but im not so familiar with GRUB either, so dont know if thats the best idea ..
[02:19] <thegladiator> TengkSA, do a google for edit+grub+windows...something like that
[02:19] <Hendikins> kemik: I'm simply helping downstream because upstream isn't doing their level best to piss me off :)
[02:19] <TengkSA> ive done so many of those
[02:19] <TengkSA> i have no idea what im doing on this prog
[02:19] <kemik> Hendikins:  aight :)
[02:19] <thegladiator> sanjayji it will also depend on his drive (windows)
[02:19] <Hendikins> er, downstream isn't trying to piss me off
[02:19] <TengkSA> sanjay can u give it to me
[02:19] <TengkSA> i know which drive each thing is on dont worry
[02:20] <kemik> TengkSA:  paste your grub.conf on pastebin perhaps
[02:20] <thegladiator> alright
[02:20] <TengkSA> how do u access grub.conf
[02:20] <thegladiator> /etc/grub.conf
[02:20] <TengkSA> no such file/directory
[02:21] <Seveas> thegladiator, that's a redhatism
[02:21] <Seveas> Ubuntu uses the proper /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:21] <ldy> TengkSA, /boot/grub/menu.conf
[02:21] <thegladiator> oh sorry :)
[02:21] <TengkSA> oh ive changed that file so many times i dont know what im doing
[02:21] <thegladiator> old fc4 !
[02:21] <Seveas> fcrap4 :)
[02:21] <Nei> the make-kpkg --initrd screws if I use a local_version setting in my kernel, someone knows how to fix that?
[02:22] <kemik> Seveas:  now now, let's all be friends
[02:22] <TengkSA> Seveas, do u think sanjay's idea is a good one
[02:22] <kemik> :>
[02:22] <Hendikins> SuSE is also using /etc/grub.conf, fwiw :P
[02:22] <thegladiator> paste your grub first
[02:22] <Seveas> TengkSA, didn't see the idea :)
[02:22] <thegladiator> most of the distro perfer /etc i guess . well not sure :)
[02:22] <Nei> (details: the initrd contains a /lib/modules/maj.min directory, but it tries to load modules from /lib/modules/maj.min-local_version
[02:22] <kemik> Seveas:  basically that sanjay would give TengkSA *his* grub.conf
[02:22] <Seveas> eww
[02:22] <thegladiator> TengkSA, i dont think thats a good idea
[02:23] <thegladiator> but...
[02:23] <ldy> I see some distros has symbol link in /etc/groub.conf to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <Seveas> that sounds like a terrible idea
[02:23] <TengkSA> thegladiator, why not
[02:23] <thegladiator> paste ur thing first
[02:23] <TengkSA> my thing is already on pastebin Seveas tried to help last nite
[02:23] <sanjay> yea - i can give u the lines to reference my windows -- if u have it installed on your first partition .. but better someone who knows their grub to do this ..
[02:23] <thegladiator> TengkSA, there are some issues there...paste your
[02:23] <thegladiator> TengkSA, just play aroun and see if you have the live cd also
[02:24] <TengkSA> live cd?
[02:24] <TengkSA> sanjay, its on my 2nd partition
[02:24] <silverpower> TengkSA: paste the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' to a pastebin, as well.
[02:24] <ANE_BT> abe lugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:24] <ANE_BT> so e ova rabotaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:24] <ANE_BT> nisto ne razbiram
[02:24] <Alpha>
[02:24] <fli7e> anyone: what is the current full version number of the latest stable ubuntu kernel? is it 2.6.12, or <IP_ADDRESS>, or what?
[02:24] <sanjay> TengkSA: ooohh.. then I wouldn't do anything . (having windows on second partition can be problematic, in my experience)
[02:25] <TengkSA> sanjay, what do i do? uninstall ubuntu entirely and install it on my 2nd hard drive?
[02:25] <Seveas> fli7e, 2.6.12-10
[02:25] <fli7e> Seveas, thanks. :)
[02:25] <TengkSA> sanjay,  im worried if windows will work after uninstalling ubuntu
[02:25] <Alpha> I think so.
[02:25] <thegladiator> TengkSA, try these thing if nothing works you always have the reinstallation option in which ubuntu auto detcts ur Windoz and do the apropriate action required
[02:25] <xiaogil> is there an email notifier with evolution ?
[02:26] <xiaogil> Alpha:
[02:26] <Seveas> xiaogil, no
[02:26] <Alpha>
[02:26] <thegladiator> whats this chiness channel ?
[02:26] <TengkSA> thegladiator, sanjay Seveas  what do i do
[02:26] <Seveas> Alpha, sticj to english in here
[02:26] <Seveas> thegladiator, #ubuntu-zh
[02:26] <sanjay> TengkSA: yes, and if all fails then, i think thegladiator had mentioned the fix mbr comdmand for Windows that u can probably do to recover your Windows boot ..
[02:26] <Alpha> ok
[02:26] <TengkSA> silverpower, can i paste my output of fdisk in a prvt window
[02:27] <silverpower> TengkSA: sure.
[02:27] <thegladiator> not fix mbr he doesnt have the win cd
[02:27] <TengkSA> i have a windows boot floppy disk
[02:27] <TengkSA> but it doesnt even work now
[02:28] <kemik> im sure you can download the fixmbr thing from the 'net
[02:28] <TengkSA> i think that theres huge conflict about windows being on 2nd partition
[02:28] <thegladiator> reinstalling ubuntu from sratch , over the present one
[02:28] <sanjay> oh shux. yea - owch.. aiy.. i have to run.. best of luck folks..
[02:28] <thegladiator> TengkSA, didnt you see this question during ub installation ? which says there is a win OS
[02:28] <TengkSA> no i cant install ubuntu on to my first partition ill install it on my 2nd partition or cant it be on the same on as windows/
[02:28] <thegladiator> do you want to keep it and stuff
[02:28] <Mabus06> no, TengkSA
[02:28] <TengkSA> thegladiator, it never came up
[02:28] <Alpha> TenkSA:Find a linux expect around you and everything is ok.
[02:29] <TengkSA> Alpha, sorry?
[02:29] <thegladiator> TengkSA, thats weird , ubuntu detects the OS existsing
[02:29] <deltron> expert I think alpha meant
[02:29] <xiaogil> Alpha: /join #ubuntu-zh OR /join #ubuntu-tw OR /join #dot
[02:29] <Alpha> i see.
[02:30] <thegladiator> dont you think Ubuntu detetcs windows ? in my case it did
[02:30] <thegladiator> like for a dual boot
[02:30] <TengkSA> no it was confused
[02:30] <thegladiator> i see. weird
[02:31] <thegladiator> i think there shud be a grub generator program in ubuntu
[02:31] <ldy> Hi,all, I see such output in netstat -natu (udp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:32793           <IP_ADDRESS>:*
[02:31] <ldy> udp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:68              <IP_ADDRESS>:*
[02:31] <ldy>  )
[02:31] <ldy> what's are these ports for?
[02:31] <thegladiator> something that checks the OS and generates the suitable grub
[02:32] <thegladiator> perhaps i might take up the project :)
[02:32] <TengkSA> is there a way of uninstalling a previous ubuntu version
[02:32] <thegladiator> do you mean you have two ubuntu's in yoru syste, ?
[02:33] <Mabus06> TengkSA, format the partition with it on it.
[02:33] <thegladiator> http://ubuntuguide.org/ --> 5.04 guide , not breezy , but it has something you need
[02:33] <TengkSA> i am useless how do i do that
[02:33] <thegladiator> TengkSA, ^
[02:34] <thegladiator> hey ubuntu experts arond , is there a possibility of ubuntu not detecting another OS during installation ?
[02:34] <Mabus06> anything is possible, but I'm no expert ;-)
[02:34] <silverpower> TengkSA: did you paste the entire thing?
[02:34] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:34] <[A] ndy80> I built the .deb package for ubuntu of aMule 2.1.0.... who can i send it to? other users could be interested in it
[02:34] <TengkSA> silverpower, yeah
[02:35] <Venson> thegladiator , if it's another linux install, yes...it won't pick up. afaik, there's no linux installer that will
[02:35] <thegladiator> i see
[02:35] <silverpower> TengkSA: It's useless - there's no kernel entry, so I can't write you a new one.
[02:36] <silverpower> All the boot stanzas are simply gone.
[02:36] <thegladiator> TengkSA, there is another suggestion Iw ud like to give you
[02:36] <thegladiator> which is not about "correcting "
[02:36] <TengkSA> if i reinstall ubontu
[02:36] <TengkSA> will it work
[02:37] <thegladiator> IMHO it shud detect the OS present but I can guarantee that :(
[02:37] <thegladiator> TengkSA, why dont you try backing up ur  data ?
[02:37] <TengkSA> thegladiator, my 2nd hard drive has everything i need
[02:37] <neville> realplayer-setup tells me to update "your system's library paths
[02:38] <TengkSA> thegladiator, i just dont feel like reinstalling all the progs/drivers etc
[02:38] <silverpower> TengkSA: Fixing this is relatively easy, but I'm going to need to know things like your exact kernel and initrd name, plus all the options.
[02:38] <thegladiator> ah
[02:38] <neville> how??
[02:38] <thegladiator> silverpower, shud help you I guess . i amnot much aware about this...
[02:38] <thegladiator> just follow him
[02:38] <moodog> Hi
[02:38] <thegladiator> HI moodog
[02:39] <TengkSA> how old are all of you people on average
[02:39] <thegladiator> i am 21
[02:39] <thegladiator> and you ?
[02:39] <_matt> 25 years old!
[02:39] <Mabus06> I'm 18, on average. ;-)
[02:39] <TengkSA> 16
[02:39] <neville> how can i update my system's library paths?
[02:39] <thegladiator> cool , so the average age is 21
[02:39] <thegladiator> nice :)
[02:40] <TengkSA> i have so much guts to just try out these things without learning about it and i ALWAYS manage to fuck up
[02:40] <dutch> 62
[02:40] <morphix> ages?
[02:40] <morphix> 17.
[02:40] <thegladiator> TengkSA, you are not alone
[02:41] <TengkSA> haha
[02:41] <thegladiator> i have botched up few many things actually
[02:41] <IdleOne> TengkSA: if you dont break it you cant fix it lol
[02:42] <thegladiator> thats called hacking
[02:42] <blaamann> neville: Could you specify ?
[02:44] <zoyd> hi, is there any tool to edit .avis?
[02:45] <berkes> hey there. good afternoon!
[02:46] <tini> hi there
[02:46] <Hendikins> Good morning.
[02:46] <berkes> i am trying to get some stuff on and off a windows PC in our LAN.
[02:46] <berkes> atm the only environment that is configured is the windows local network.
[02:46] <oskude> zoyd: could be your looking for "avidemux" ...
[02:47] <berkes> does anyone know what protocol is used for that?
[02:47] <fli7e> berkes, WINS is one of the protocols for Windows workgroups
[02:47] <Hendikins> berkes: You'd use samba.
[02:47] <berkes> i thought so, thanks.
[02:47] <mrpink> chroot magik/quit
[02:49] <neron> hello
[02:49] <neron> its me again
[02:49] <neron> i got another problem now
[02:49] <zoyd> oskude: k, i'll try that
[02:50] <neron> how do you crate a home network without a router i have 2 computers connected to a switch using DSL modem with pppoe connection on both
[02:51] <fli7e> neron, do you have two network cards?
[02:51] <fli7e> in one of the pcs?
[02:51] <neron> no
[02:51] <neron> i dont need to share my internet connection
[02:51] <UniqueName> Can someone help me out i had problems with my soundcard stoping my boot process, but now i am in ubuntu. Its all setup. BUT I have no sound... I have a lw40 express laptop and it has a realtek audio thing. Anyway it comes up in the tray at the top of the screen as if its there i can adjust the volume sliders but volume does not work. I have read that i might need to install custom drivers i tried doing that but it needs kernel heade
[02:51] <UniqueName> rs or something to compile and i am using a old kernel that was patched for this issue so i cant be bothered. Can someone tell me if other distros have this problem with realtek or how to fix my audio AND when the next ubuntu release is due as the next realase should fix this problem
[02:51] <neron> i just want to share files trought the cables
[02:51] <vilko> hi al i need some help again
[02:52] <fli7e> neron, a crossover cable would be the easiest way
[02:52] <neron> i dont have that
[02:52] <vilko> is there thing that i can chat over webcam with windows users ?
[02:52] <neron> i got the switch
[02:52] <fli7e> well, a switch should be just as good as a router
[02:52] <blaamann> viko: Try GnomeMeeting
[02:52] <vilko> ok...
[02:53] <vilko> im in that atm
[02:53] <vilko> but i dont see any options for webcam ?
[02:53] <neron> well so what do i need to connect 2 comps together than
[02:53] <blaamann> vilko: Click on the camera icon
[02:53] <neron> vilko try dowloading amsn
[02:54] <blaamann> vilko: Is you camera configured ?
[02:54] <oskude> neron: a cable, protocol and a service ;)
[02:54] <vilko> wait its not gaim meeting internet messaging
[02:54] <vilko> ?
[02:54] <blaamann> vilko: What ?
[02:54] <fli7e> neron, as long as both computers are somehow connected to the switch, they should already be physically able to talk to eachother
[02:54] <UniqueName> Why does gnome only let me choose 1024x768 when my xorg file says 1280x768
[02:54] <neron> oskude: im practicaly a new user so please some more info :(
[02:55] <vilko> gaim internet messenger is that GnomeMeeting?
[02:55] <blaamann> vilko: No, run gnomemeeting
[02:55] <vilko> do i have that installed even ?
[02:55] <oskude> neron: and i dont know with what you wanna communicate and what you want to transport (i use http, ftp, or ssh)
[02:55] <matt_> hello i have a ?
[02:55] <matt_> can someone help me
[02:56] <deltron> k
[02:56] <vilko> ooo found it lol
[02:56] <neron> i just want to share some files
[02:56] <matt_> how do i open a port for my firewall
[02:56] <oskude> neron: for that i would use http or ftp
[02:56] <UniqueName> can someone tell me why xorg says i can only use 1280x768 but gnome choosed 1024x768 and does not let me manualy change it
[02:56] <neron> so i just need to setup the ftp server
[02:56] <neron> and a ftp client
[02:57] <oskude> neron: yup
[02:57] <neron> damn gotta try that
[02:57] <neron> thanx
[02:57] <matt_> can someone help me?
[02:57] <fli7e> UniqueName, I might be wrong, but i think xorg does not have default options for widescreen resolutions
[02:57] <neron> any sujestions on the best or easiest program to use?!?
[02:57] <vilko> damn how do i config my camera
[02:57] <oskude> neron: but on my experience http was easier to setup than ftp (but on http you dont have upload, well not standardly)
[02:57] <fli7e> UniqueName, that would be WHY. if you want to know HOW to add them manually, you'll need someone elses help
[02:57] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[02:58] <neron> hum
[02:58] <UniqueName> fli7e, i selected widescreen in the installer and opened xorg to double check. i know how to do it but its not letting me use what i have done to the xorg file
[02:58] <UniqueName> the problem is with gnome not xorg :S
[02:58] <neron> oskude: id like to try the http what programs did u use?!?
[02:59] <UniqueName> fli7e, SubSection "Display"
[02:59] <UniqueName> 		Depth		24
[02:59] <UniqueName> 		Modes		"1280x768"
[02:59] <UniqueName> 	EndSubSection
[02:59] <oskude> neron: "sudo apt-get install apache2" (and select "standalone" when asked)
[02:59] <neron> apache thought so
[02:59] <matt_> ?? can someone help?
[03:00] <fli7e> UniqueName, i don't have a widescreen, so ive obviously never experienced the problem firsthand. someone else in this channel had a similar problem within the last few days and i think someone mentioned manually editing the x configuration files or something like that. thats really all i know about it
[03:00] <oskude> neron: then you can make a dir named "public_html" in your home dir, and others will find it with browser "http://ip.ip.ip.ip/~yourusername"
[03:00] <blaamann> vilko: See if this driver/module support your camera
[03:00] <blaamann> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx
[03:00] <fli7e> matt_, what are you using as a firewall?
[03:01] <sarek> hi
[03:01] <ligi> anyone knows what to apt-get to be able to install wmv3 files with mplayer?
[03:01] <vilko> how do i check that ?
[03:01] <UniqueName> fli7e, yeah i thought i would get a quick fix, i guess its back to google. By the way if the audio slider comes up and opens does that mean drivers are WORKING and valid becuase my audio drivers dont work (not supported by the latest kernel) i got a kernel patch and i can see the volume slider now but it does not work.
[03:01] <neron> now theres a problem
[03:01] <blaamann> vilko: Go to the site and read
[03:01] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[03:02] <Olson> hey
[03:02] <vilko> ok
[03:02] <bigfoot_yeti> hi all
[03:02] <Olson> i installed ubuntu here but the mouse didnt work
[03:02] <spy> hi
[03:02] <Olson> could anybody help me?
[03:02] <fli7e> UniqueName, i havent a clue about the volume problem
[03:02] <samitheberber> How I get skype working in UBUNTU5.10 ?
[03:02] <spy> can sum1 help me mount ntfs drive... disk manager doesnt want 2 enable when i set it up
[03:03] <neron> oskude: the file does not work :S
[03:03] <UniqueName> fli7e, well do you know how to hide the audio patch thing? beucase since i patched the kernel the thing asking me to patch ubuntu wont go away
[03:03] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[03:03] <matt_> whats the command?
[03:03] <oskude> neron: what file doesnt work ?
[03:03] <neron> i mean
[03:04] <neron> Not Found
[03:04] <neron> The requested URL /neron was not found on this server.
[03:04] <neron> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8
[03:04] <bigfoot_yeti> oh, j , so many questions
[03:04] <Olson> Could anybody help me ? I installed ubuntu here but the mouse didnt work.
[03:04] <neron> what did i do wrong now?!?
[03:04] <oskude> neron: dont forget that "~" like "localhost/~neron"
[03:04] <neron> oh damn sorry
[03:04] <neron> sorry
[03:05] <neron> tnx
[03:05] <Olson> does serial mouse work in ubuntu ?
[03:05] <matt_> hrmm
[03:05] <oskude> neron: np, that happens to all of us :)
[03:05] <matt_> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <matt_> or no?
[03:05] <neron> it works it works it works
[03:05] <matt_> or where can i get help
[03:05] <neron> yey
[03:05] <fli7e> UniqueName, if you're talking about the speaker icon on the top panel, right click on it and select remove from panel
[03:05] <oskude> neron: nice
[03:05] <UniqueName> fli7e, no i am tlaking about the red circle with a line thru it
[03:05] <neron> so is there a way to get into any other directories?!?
[03:05] <Olson> fli7e help me , please
[03:06] <sarek> ligi: maybe you could try installing the w32codecs package - but it's not in the official repositry any longer afaik
[03:06] <oskude> neron: for that you should read about configuring apache...
[03:06] <fli7e> Olson, a serial mouse should work in ubuntu, but the bad news is im not sure how to configure it without a working mouse.
[03:06] <ligi> sa
[03:06] <bigfoot_yeti> any idea how to run firestarter under kde ?
[03:07] <ligi> sarek, thanx
[03:07] <sarek> np
[03:07] <morphix> can ubuntu be installed on a usb removable hdd>
[03:07] <morphix> ?
[03:07] <dylan_> is there any way that you can change the amount of ink that comes out of your printer?
[03:07] <dylan_> how about print speed?
[03:07] <Olson> fli7e thats great
[03:07] <neron> oskude i know u helped me alot but do you happen to have any sujestions where to find those tutorials?!?
[03:07] <oskude> neron: im not sure if it works if you just do links in "public_html" for files that are outside "public_html"
[03:07] <morphix> aliases.
[03:07] <neron> its worth to try
[03:08] <neron> how do you do a link?!? :S
[03:08] <fli7e> Olson, you can try just plugging one in or something, but your best bet would be to get a usb mouse. they usually autodetect
[03:08] <sarek> I use the current nvidia-kernel-* drivers for xorg which seems to work fine. But when I test glxgears, the gears turn real slow and no output (about the fps rate) is given on the console. is that normal? When I checked this with my old card console output was given each 2 or 3 seconds
[03:08] <neron> i found out
[03:08] <neron> thanx anyways
[03:08] <fli7e> UniqueName, i am unsure what red circle with a line you are talking about. i don't think i've seen one before
[03:09] <oskude> neron: as morphix hinted, you could google about apache and aliases (you just do some lines in apaches config file, and you can like "map" any folder to any http address)
[03:09] <UniqueName> fli7e,  yes you have its the thing that asks you to update ubuntu
[03:09] <matt_> hello?
[03:09] <morphix> i have an ebook on apache if u want it neron
[03:09] <matt_> can someone help me really quickly?
[03:09] <morphix> i sell it on ebay :P
[03:09] <fli7e> oh right
[03:09] <matt_> i gotta ?
[03:09] <samitheberber> matt_: What is your problem?
[03:09] <neron> morphix sure
[03:10] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[03:10] <fli7e> you want to get rid of that?
[03:10] <oskude> ebooks sucks, tutorials rule :)
[03:10] <morphix> meh this book cost me $30 when i bought the hard copy
[03:10] <neron> heh
[03:10] <fli7e> UniqueName, to get rid of THAT permanently you right click on the dotted/dashed vertical line that looks like a seperator bar and select remove from panel
[03:11] <oskude> i NEVER buy computer related books (there are like 1001 more uptodate info in the net)
[03:11] <matt_> samitheberer
[03:11] <bigfoot_yeti> any idea how to run firestarter under kde ?
[03:11] <neron> huh :S now that is something strange morphix
[03:12] <samitheberber> matt_: Maybe you can use iptables
[03:12] <bigfoot_yeti> anternatives are good too
[03:12] <bigfoot_yeti> but i need a GUI
[03:13] <bigfoot_yeti> kerio-like gui
[03:13] <sarek> I have some problems getting my tv tuner card tu work. I know the card number and tuner number to pass to the bttv module. When I start a tv application I get sound, can switch channels, but the screen is distorted. I can see the tv image, but there are lots of artefacts in it. Any idea?
[03:13] <matt_> samitheberber: how can i open up the port so i can run like azureus
[03:13] <bigfoot_yeti> no ideas then
[03:13] <bigfoot_yeti> peace
[03:15] <vilko> alrighty o
[03:15] <neron> anyways did any1 yet tried to play aao on ubuntu?!?
[03:15] <vilko> how can i burn cds ?
[03:15] <vilko> is ther ea burning proggie ?
[03:15] <neron> jes it is
[03:15] <Whistler> vilko try gnome-baker
[03:15] <neron> :D
[03:15] <Whistler> it should be installed by default
[03:16] <vilko> aha
[03:16] <neron> whistler it wasnt installed by default at my comp
[03:16] <neron> and i installed 2 ubuntus 1 on each comp
[03:16] <Whistler> as far as i remember it should be installed by default on 5.10
[03:16] <Whistler> may be that im wrong
[03:17] <vilko> looks like it aint
[03:17] <Whistler> vilko then try: sudo apt-get install gnome-baker
[03:17] <Whistler> or just use synaptic
[03:17] <janoli> gnomebaker
[03:17] <Whistler> for that
[03:17] <Whistler> oh
[03:17] <Whistler> without - just gnomebaker
[03:18] <vilko> ser paketlistor... Frdig
[03:18] <vilko> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[03:18] <vilko> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet gnome-baker
[03:18] <Chousuke> gnomebaker
[03:18] <Chousuke> :p
[03:18] <vilko> ow ok
[03:19] <Chousuke> Also You could've just said it doesn't find the package "gnome-baker"
[03:19] <vilko> woohoo
[03:19] <vilko> seems like it install
[03:19] <Chousuke> that had 2 unnecessary lines. :)
[03:20] <vilko> thanks guys u rox
[03:20] <vilko> :D
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello guys
[03:20] <vilko> w000h0000 another happy puppy goes Unbuntu
[03:21] <dec0ding> what is the name of X11's Development headers package for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <allison_1984> anyone please give me the source lists for apt-get update ?
[03:21] <Ng> dec0ding: libx11-dev I think
[03:21] <Inf3ctedFx> allison_1984:  hold on
[03:22] <Ng> !sources
[03:22] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:23] <Inf3ctedFx> allison_1984:  here u have --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6537
[03:24] <allison_1984> ubotu, Inf3ctedFx: thanks
[03:24] <ubotu> allison_1984: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:24] <Inf3ctedFx> n/p
[03:25] <oskude> someone should program ubotu to say "your welcome" when someone says "thanx" or similar :)
[03:25] <allison_1984> ubotu: well, I messed up with the old sources update with that of automatix, also can't seem to link with Seveas's update site
[03:25] <ubotu> allison_1984: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:25] <oskude> allison_1984: ubotu is a bot
[03:26] <allison_1984> oskude: I know
[03:26] <Ng> it's also a particularly stupid bot ;)
[03:26] <Ng> * > bloot
[03:26] <allison_1984> I addressed the mesage to him by mistake
[03:26] <fischi> can someone tell me in whick package HEAD is included?
[03:26] <oskude> allison_1984: ah ok
[03:27] <oskude> fischi: SCNR, apt-get install BODY ;)
[03:27] <allison_1984> so again another question ....do I have to change the source list everytime I want to install something new ?
[03:27] <Mabus06> lol @ allison_1984
[03:27] <Mabus06> that never gets old.. people talking with the bot
[03:27] <oskude> allison_1984: no, just once
[03:27] <allison_1984> is sooo emabrassed.....
[03:28] <Mabus06> You are far from the first, allison_1984 ;-)
[03:28] <fischi> not Brain oskude ?;)
[03:28] <oskude> allison_1984: dont be, nothing "bad" happened
[03:28] <Mabus06> It's funnier when people get in arguments with it.
[03:28] <allison_1984> rotfl
[03:29] <allison_1984> oskude: normally are there 21 source sites then ?
[03:30] <oskude> allison_1984: "officially" theres only 3
[03:30] <allison_1984> oskude: or it differs when I open the restricted format's multiverse/universe ?
[03:30] <allison_1984> oskude: ok
[03:31] <apokryphos> oskude: not really, there's much more.
[03:31] <oskude> allison_1984: i got only main,universe, multiverse (and their updates)
[03:31] <allison_1984> oskude: are those only for the breezy updates ?
[03:31] <allison_1984> oskude: or you have for security too ?
[03:31] <heatxsink> I have a huge problem
[03:31] <heatxsink> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[03:32] <heatxsink>  trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ar', which is also in package xlibs
[03:32] <heatxsink> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[03:32] <heatxsink> I don't know what to do help!!!
[03:32] <trappist> heatxsink: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_all.deb
[03:32] <oskude> allison_1984: sry, ment "security" for main, universe, and multiverse (as update)
[03:33] <oskude> allison_1984: but i remember they mentioned the differeces of the repos in source-o-matic, or what it was...
[03:33] <rod> hello there
[03:34] <rod> i have a Geforce1 card here, and although I am able to install nvidia drivers on all my machines here with ubuntu, this machine fails
[03:34] <rod> i do apt-get  install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:34] <rod> and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:35] <allison_1984> oskude: I am trying to install kstars and I can't update from some of the sources.......have to re do the lists again.....
[03:35] <rod> but xorg.conf doesnt get modified (nv to nvidia)
[03:35] <rod> and modprobe nvidia says no such device
[03:35] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package
[03:35] <madgik85> Hello, does any one know how to find what version of gtk i have installed? I have Ubuntu 5.10
[03:35] <DMJC> what's the MINIMUM hdd for installed ubuntu?
[03:35] <DMJC> with X?
[03:35] <oskude> allison_1984: when ever you modify the sources.list, you HAVE to do "sudo apt-get update" (so you get the list of installable programs in those repos)
[03:36] <poningru> DMJC: I dont remember the exact space but its around a gig
[03:37] <poningru> with a small swap
[03:37] <oskude> DMJC: i remember standard ubuntu beieng like 1.5g
[03:37] <rod> rod@ubuntu:~$ FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[03:37] <poningru> its around 1.5 gig
[03:37] <poningru> what he said
[03:37] <Whistler> and some more for swap
[03:37] <allison_1984> oskude: hmmmm........some of my updates fail
[03:37] <DMJC> what aout server?
[03:37] <Whistler> 300 mb
[03:37] <Whistler> without x
[03:37] <poningru> server would be smaller
[03:37] <poningru> a lot smaller
[03:37] <DMJC> how big would X be?
[03:37] <oskude> allison_1984: post in pastebin and say the link
[03:37] <DMJC> all I want is X, metacity, and amusic player
[03:38] <Whistler> DMJC maybe try xubuntu instead?
[03:38] <allison_1984> oskude: right
[03:38] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic
[03:38] <rod> Yeha xubuntu is prolly whatyou want DMJC
[03:38] <DMJC> just wondering, I have an ubuntu install cd and I want to cram it into a 500mb vmware image is all
[03:38] <oskude> DMJC: xubuntu is a meta package that should install x and xfce4
[03:38] <CioN> DMJC installa xubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <DMJC> I don't want a desktop, just want to access my music in windows
[03:39] <DMJC> it's stuck on a reiserfs partition
[03:39] <CioN> use lice cd then
[03:39] <Whistler> DMJC firstly install ubuntu server then just install xubuntu-desktop package
[03:39] <DMJC> and I still dualboot with linux
[03:39] <CioN> live cd
[03:39] <Whistler> oh
[03:39] <DMJC> oik
[03:39] <rod> yeah live cd!!
[03:39] <nemik> hello, is there any way for me to run my shell/bash script as soon as a certain USB device is plugged in?
[03:40] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic
[03:40] <deFrysk>  /j #ubuntu-nl
[03:40] <rod> anyone familiar with sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:40] <rod> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[03:40] <rod> 'join #ubuntu-nl
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> nemik,  i think the 'removeable' drive controlpanel part of gnome has a entry/setting  for such a task
[03:40] <silverpower> Can I get Ubuntu to remove Gnome and replace it with KDE completely? I've tried it out and I really don't care for Gnome.
[03:41] <pepsi> hi there
[03:41] <Whistler> silverpower i think you can
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> silverpower,  leave gnome on.. install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[03:41] <apokryphos> silverpower: yes. Install kubuntu-desktop and then use debfoster.
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> mix and match :P
[03:41] <pepsi> i lost my mouse input somehow
[03:41] <nemik> Dr_Willis: thanks. i may just want to know how to do it from a terminal for extra-compatible knowledge, but the gnome menu is a good place to start. any hints on where this could be? i haven't seen it before
[03:41] <CioN> silverpower don't mess too much with gnome
[03:42] <apokryphos> oO
[03:42] <pepsi> i need it back so i can save data in vmware :(  they keyboard seems to work a little bit, but not really
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> nemik,  from the console/term - thers some sort of udev/auto mount stuff.. but never messed with it befor.
[03:42] <poningru> silverpower: you could have installed kubuntu instead from the begining
[03:42] <poningru> !kubuntu
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:42] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic
[03:42] <pepsi> i can do control-alt-Fn, and alt-tab seems to _want_ to work, and alt-f4 will try to close the window, but its vmware and i dont want to close it :(
[03:42] <pepsi> any ideas?
[03:42] <nemik> DR_Willis: great! thank you! i'll start googling around for that.
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> CioN,  apt-get has a remove/force option.
[03:43] <CioN> Dr_Willis oh man U a genius THX!
[03:44] <megryan> how do you uninstall programmes using command line on ubuntu
[03:44] <oskude> megryan: sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[03:44] <poningru> nemik: did you ever figure out that thing?
[03:44] <silverpower> poningru: I only had a ubuntu ISO to work with, and now I'm all out of CD-Rs, heh.
[03:44] <megryan> thanks - can't get rid of limewire
[03:45] <oskude> megryan: and to allso remove config files and co "sudo apt-get remove --purge remove <programname>"
[03:45] <poningru> silverpower: if you wait till april you can get kubuntu on shipit, if there are no complications
[03:45] <nemik> poningru: think i just got it in GNOME; it is in system -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media. though not as customizable as i want.
[03:45] <poningru> nemik: hold on let me see something
[03:45] <trappist> nemik: check /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
[03:46] <pepsi> seems that i can run apps via alt-f2.. hrm.. how do i activate mouse keys?
[03:46] <nemik> poningru: thanks, that sounds nice!
[03:46] <allison_1984> oskude: right...browser's soo slooooooow.........
[03:46] <megryan> thanks all
[03:47] <nemik> trappist: thanks for that, looks like what i need. BTW, what is %h in there?
[03:49] <silverpower> okay, it's churning away at fetching kubuntu-desktop.
[03:49] <rod> is it known that it is impossible to install nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]  (rev 10) on breezy?
[03:49] <poningru> nemik: here check the usb.agent thing
[03:50] <poningru> doh what trappist said dude
[03:50] <reyn> Hi, I lost my /boot, is there some easy way of restoring my system ?
[03:51] <e27a04d25> hello everyone
[03:51] <nemik> poningru: not sure it is in there though. since GNOME has an import thing defaulted for digi-cams, but that does not show up in there, not sure where that command could be referenced from
[03:52] <allison_1984> oskude: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/488689
[03:53] <papa> Ich Gre Jeden in diesen Chat
[03:53] <oskude> allison_1984: reading..
[03:53] <Seicherl> anybody experienced with greping a partition directly?
[03:55] <poningru> nemik: hmm
[03:55] <nemik> poningru: has this: gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h
[03:56] <pa_l> why doesnt ubuntu support Qt????
[03:57] <reyn> apt-get kde, or just get kubuntu
[03:57] <oskude> allison_1984: hmm, didnt find about that in forums... do you really need cipherfunk.org ?
[03:57] <pa_l> kubuntu supports it?
[03:57] <reyn> anyone have an idea how I could restore a system that lost it's /boot dir ?
[03:58] <DMJC> what's the package that provides X?
[03:58] <DMJC> n/m
[03:58] <oskude> reyn: reinstall. (but im pretty sure theres a way to "recreate" /boot, but i never done that)
[03:59] <reyn> :\
[03:59] <pa_l> its so stupid not to support Qt
[04:00] <apokryphos> pa_l: "support" kde?
[04:00] <apokryphos> *Qt
[04:00] <oskude> "stupid" is so relative...
[04:00] <apokryphos> pa_l: what do you mean?
[04:00] <silverpower> How do I force the X server to restart?
[04:00] <Seveas> silverpower, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[04:00] <apokryphos> silverpower: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:00] <e27a04d25> reyn, yes reinstall  your ubuntu but first partition your hard drive using GParted located in your Applications menu if you can't find Gparted in your Application menu install it go to system menu then administration point your cursur to add application then find Gparted and check it to install the Gparted, after that go back to application then you can partition your hard disk after the partition transfer all your file to the other partition & reins
[04:00] <e27a04d25> tall ubuntu that's all i can say to help you there's no other way but to that to restore your /boot
[04:01] <silverpower> Not what I was thinking of.
[04:01] <pa_l> ctr-l +alt + backspace and X will restart silverpower
[04:01] <Mathew> Hello.
[04:01] <SillyZ> Q: where do I find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9 ( stock kernel ) that comes with ubuntu ?
[04:01] <Ng> silverpower: what did you have in mind then?
[04:01] <DMJC> what is the X poackage in ubuntu?
[04:01] <DMJC> what's it called?
[04:01] <reyn> e27a04d25, thanks, I'll try partitioning before I reinstall
[04:01] <apokryphos> DMJC: xserver-xorg and -common
[04:01] <allison_1984> oskude: any notes ?
[04:02] <Mathew> I was wondering if someone would be able to help me with some simple unbuntu questions.
[04:02] <apokryphos> Mathew: ask away
[04:02] <Whistler> sure
[04:02] <oskude> allison_1984: as i said, do you really need that repo that has no GPG key ?
[04:02] <silverpower> See, normally, the X server restarts if I log out. But on Ubuntu, a simple logout didn't get the server to reload itself.
[04:02] <Mathew> how do I start and stop services? see a list of installed/running services?
[04:02] <reyn> e27a04d25, is there some way of partitioning an existing system in rescue mode ?
[04:02] <apokryphos> Mathew: ps aux; for a list of the top ones, 'top'
[04:03] <Mathew> silverpower.. ctrl+alt+bksp?
[04:03] <allison_1984> oskude: not really I guess....so then I delete it ?
[04:03] <Ng> silverpower: log out and then do ctrl-alt-backspace, or do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from a console
[04:03] <oskude> Mathew: the most services are controlled from "/etc/init.d/servicename start" or "stop/restart/reload"
[04:03] <Mathew> ok.. great
[04:03] <oskude> allison_1984: just put a "#" in front of that line in sources.list, and its commented-out
[04:03] <Mathew> brb.. going to take a look
[04:03] <silverpower> Ng: that's what I was looking for, thanks!
[04:04] <allison_1984> oskude: its defnitely taken up from automatix......alright.... thanks
[04:04] <oskude> allison_1984: if youre a newbie, i would advice ONLY to use main, universe and multiverse (definetly NOT backborts)
[04:04] <Mathew> strange.. I know I have sshd running..
[04:04] <Mathew> but can't see it in /etc/init.d
[04:05] <allison_1984> oskude: ay ay......
[04:05] <oskude> Mathew: i have etc/init.d/ssh
[04:05] <Mathew> let me see if thats it
[04:05] <Mathew> I don't think it is.
[04:05] <e27a04d25> reyn, yes as long your system is running & your hard disk is not damaged you can see to it you had the Gparted in the application menu so you can partition your hard disk. are you in safe mode now? can you restart?
[04:06] <oskude> Mathew: do you have "openssh-server" installed (dpkg -l | grep ssh)
[04:06] <Mathew> I do.
[04:06] <Mathew> I installed it with apt-get
[04:06] <apokryphos> Mathew: ps aux|grep ssh
[04:06] <oskude> allison_1984: im just saying that because the "unofficial" repos may broke your system faster than the "officials" :)
[04:06] <SillyZ> Q: where do I find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9 ( stock kernel ) that comes with ubuntu ?
[04:07] <Mathew> got it /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:07] <reyn> e27a04d25, I dont have a /boot, so I'v booted in rescue mode
[04:07] <Mathew> I started and stopped ssh in /etc/init.d but that didn't kill the server
[04:07] <reyn> e27a04d25, from the cd
[04:07] <oskude> Mathew: yeah, but the control script for services chould be in "etc/init.d/"
[04:07] <ppd> hi everybody ! has anybody noticed gnome trying to "eject" a usb disk with the "eject" command which gives an error
[04:07] <oskude> c=s
[04:07] <gnomefreak> SillyZ, you should beable to get it from the offical ubuntu site
[04:07] <silverpower> ...oh, *yay*. Now X won't even start!
[04:08] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  type startx
[04:08] <oskude> Mathew: did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop" ?
[04:08] <Mathew> oskude, no.
[04:08] <Mathew> but it didn't give me an error
[04:08] <erUSUL> ppd, why are you doing it just umount the fs and unplug the usbkey
[04:08] <Seveas> SillyZ, ubuntu uses 2.6.12-10 now, enable security updates
[04:08] <e27a04d25> ok then, don't boot for now, just look for Gparted & reply back if you see it
[04:09] <Mathew> root@lappy:/home/mathew # /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[04:09] <Mathew>  * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                           [ ok ]
[04:09] <Mathew> root@lappy:/home/mathew # /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:09] <Mathew>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
[04:09] <silverpower> gnomefreak: tried that. whined about missing symbols and puked.
[04:09] <erUSUL> Mathew, please do not paste
[04:09] <Mathew> and I had an open connection to it that didn't drop
[04:09] <Mathew> sorry
[04:09] <ppd> erUSUL, that's the automatic gnome umount stuff
[04:09] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:09] <Seveas> Mathew, shutting down the server does not close open connections
[04:09] <Mathew> really?
[04:09] <Mathew> wow.. that doenst seem right
[04:09] <gnomefreak> silverpower, may i ask why you want 2.6.12-9 instead of 2.6.12-10?
[04:10] <SillyZ> Seveas, Ive tried the 2.6.12-10 kernel, and I loose wifi connectivity with it , .9 works fine for me
[04:10] <Seveas> it is
[04:10] <Mathew> how would I stop someone from connecting it I coulndt drop connectinos by stopping the service?
[04:10] <Seveas> SillyZ, filed a bug already?
[04:10] <faken_> hi folks
[04:10] <faken_> i there somthink like a version file in ubuntu  ?
[04:10] <allison_1984> oskude: installing kstars now.....do you think a firewall is necessary for breezy ?
[04:10] <Seveas> faken_, /etc/lsb-release
[04:11] <gnomefreak> breezy already has one :))
[04:11] <faken_> thx Seveas
[04:11] <oskude> allison_1984: do you have a dsl router ?
[04:11] <erUSUL> ppd, i may have misunderstood you but you said that you used eject (only works on cdroms) on an usb disk
[04:11] <allison_1984> oskude: I have a nat
[04:11] <oskude> allison_1984: in the "common" language firewall is mostly just a nat...
[04:11] <joshi_> Is Half-Life supported on linux?
[04:11] <ppd> erUSUL, no gnome does it when umounting the device via the right click menu
[04:12] <SillyZ> not yet Seveas its gto something to do with the madwifi ( ath_pci ) driver, dont want to file one til I can pin point it
[04:12] <ppd> ppd, doesn't hurt as the device gets umounted properly but it's annoying
[04:12] <gnomefreak> silverpower, did X start?
[04:12] <Seveas> SillyZ, tried the madwifi drivers from users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas?
[04:12] <SillyZ> mmm not yet, but I will :)
[04:12] <silverpower> gnomefreak: no. it whined about missing symbols and then died.
[04:12] <Seveas> stock madwifi is broken, this bug has been filed already :)
[04:12] <oskude> allison_1984: i NEVER had software "firewalls" and had no problems (i have dsl router with nat)
[04:13] <e27a04d25> reyn, where are you?
[04:13] <ppd> erUSUL, this "problem" doesn't appear with USB sticks
[04:13] <gnomefreak> firewall is built into kernel in linux
[04:13] <silverpower> My Rage128 worked fine on my Gentoo install, with DRI turned on and everything.
[04:13] <allison_1984> oskude: I mentioned it because I have the option to install firestart.....but lets say for dial ups and cable internets....
[04:13] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  iim assuming since you restarted X you installed drivers for video card?
[04:13] <allison_1984> oskude: you seem to be in a fortress ;)
[04:14] <SillyZ> Seveas, is there anyway I can rsync just the i386 and i686 sections of the mirror locally ?
[04:14] <silverpower> gnomefreak: No, I turned off an option in xorg.conf to re-enable DRI.
[04:14] <Seveas> SillyZ, rsync what?
[04:15] <SillyZ> the ubuntu mirror, but just specific arch's
[04:15] <e27a04d25> reyn, where are you?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  go back in disable it and let me know if you can start X than
[04:15] <Seveas> hmm, dunno, you should ask mirrors AT ubuntu.com
[04:16] <ppd> erUSUL, it says: eject: Kann nicht auswerfen! Letzter Fehler: Das Argument ist ungltig which means "Couldn't eject! Last error: The argument is incorrect."
[04:16] <e27a04d25> i'm quiting this chat, are you still there?
[04:16] <oskude> allison_1984: but default ubuntu installation doesnt have any services installed nor running, so attack from outside is minimal even without nat(firewall)
[04:18] <allison_1984> oskude: was curious....
[04:18] <erUSUL> ppd, gnome umounts the filesystem it does not eject the usbdisk (it only does it with cdroms as i said) and is clear in the contextual menu for usb and disks it says umount the volume (desmontar el volumen in spanish) and for cdroms it says eject (expulsar in spanish)
[04:19] <simonian> hi there
[04:19] <simonian> iv'e got problems with centrino
[04:19] <silverpower> gnomefreak: the driver was set to ati, I changed it to r128, still no change. I didn't install any drivers.
[04:19] <simonian> i can't change the frequencie no mather what i do it is always set to min
[04:20] <oskude> allison_1984: i even didnt have problems on windoze when i only had a dsl-router nat and no software firewall (but dint ask what happened when i did dial-up and no firewalls, lol)
[04:20] <ppd> erUSUL, yes the menu says "umount" but it actually performs an "eject"
[04:20] <allison_1984> oskude: hmmmm...lots of headaches ?
[04:20] <silverpower> gnomefreak: I'm trying a known good xorg.conf from my Gentoo install.
[04:20] <ppd> erUSUL, I could make a screenshot
[04:21] <erUSUL> ppd, i do not know why you said it performs and eject. can you point me to the place you read or you learned it?
[04:21] <oskude> allison_1984: the dunny was how fast i got stuff in my windoze (i was only 5min online and had 10 spy/troja/etc stuff running) (well, i wanted that, as it was just a test)
[04:21] <oskude> *funny
[04:22] <zool2005> quick question, should I use a hub or switch to connect additional computers to my adsl router?
[04:22] <allison_1984> oskude: haha
[04:22] <b0ris> zool2005, switch
[04:22] <silverpower> gnomefreak: It complains about missing X11 modules with my Gentoo xorg.conf.
[04:22] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: both will work
[04:22] <zool2005> what is the difference?
[04:22] <allison_1984> oskude: so what are you running now ?
[04:23] <b0ris> zool2005, switch shares the available bandwith
[04:23] <allison_1984> oskude: dual boot ?
[04:23] <zool2005> ah
[04:23] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: the switch will only send the packets to the destination computer
[04:23] <b0ris> zool2005, hub just splits the bandwith in equal parts, even if no one is using it
[04:23] <oskude> allison_1984: tripple boot, but no widoze :)
[04:24] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: the hub will send the packets to all hosts
[04:24] <zool2005> how do I go about connecting peripherals to a network?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> silverpower, im not sure you can run gentoos xorg file under ubuntu but i do know that if your card is an ati it being set to ati is a good thing ive done this a few days ago with mine :(( after installing ati drivers i changed mine and it didnt work i put it back on ati and worked fine
[04:24] <b0ris> zool2005, GenghisKhan explanation is better  : ) (anyway, manufacturer mostly sell switches, nowadays)
[04:24] <allison_1984> oskude: nice.......what do you do with all of them ? :)
[04:24] <ppd> erUSUL, i made some screenshots. I'll upload them. Just a minute
[04:25] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: you mean devices with an ethernet conection or sharing devices connected to a computer?
[04:25] <oskude> allison_1984: i have, breezy, dapper, and debian (just for testing, this whole pc is my test system)
[04:25] <zool2005> ethernet
[04:25] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: if you have a dhcp server, just plug
[04:25] <markitoxs> hello, can anyone know, help me with photoshop installation, it gets frozen after initializing the installshield, i tried with cedega also..
[04:25] <oskude> allison_1984: on my laptop i have breezy and xp
[04:26] <allison_1984> oskude: nice combo....likewise with my laptop
[04:26] <blue-frog> markitoxs, use gimp otherwise use windows..
[04:26] <zool2005> GenghisKhan, just an appropriate cable required then?
[04:26] <silverpower> gnomefreak: I edited the xorg.conf to fix the paths (modules in the wrong places) and it simply dies with the 'no symbols found' error.
[04:27] <b0ris> markitoxs, this is the help channel for Ubuntu here.. I don't think you try to run Photoshop under Ubuntu, right ?
[04:27] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: straight ethernet cable will work always
[04:27] <markitoxs> blue-frog nice answer, but just want to fix that installation issue
[04:27] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: also, some switches support crossed ethernet
[04:27] <silverpower> that's with both r128 and ati. Doesn't make a difference.
[04:27] <markitoxs> b0ris, sure i do, where's the poblem?
[04:27] <zool2005> surely the peripheral requires an ethernet port
[04:27] <oskude> allison_1984: i dont use xp like for anything, but some of my "clients" insist on iexploder compalibity...
[04:27] <b0ris> markitoxs, thru Wine ?
[04:27] <markitoxs> sure
[04:27] <gnomefreak> silverpower, this is on breezy?
[04:28] <markitoxs> i already installed plenty of win software
[04:28] <ppd> erUSUL, here: http://home.arcor.de/guenter.federle/screen.tar.bz2
[04:28] <markitoxs> but all my photoshops can't get pass thru the installshield screen
[04:28] <allison_1984> oskude: lol, I have kept mine only for mixing music...not much of a gamer though.....
[04:28] <silverpower> gnomefreak: yep.
[04:29] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: of course, you need an ethernet port in the switch for each peripheral
[04:29] <SatanLvsU2> I have to say guys.. I was very impressed with how easy and clean unbuntu is. however it's lacking the administrative tools I'm used to.. am I missing something?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, what are you used to?
[04:29] <oskude> allison_1984: yeah, for those "entertainmet" needs windoze is still usefull (but for gaming, tmw seems enough for me atm :)
[04:30] <DMJC> gstreamer multimedia systems selector
[04:30] <SatanLvsU2> commands like "service" "setup" "config-"
[04:30] <DMJC> what's the package for it?
[04:30] <SatanLvsU2> redhat stuff
[04:30] <zool2005> GenghisKhan, my printer has a usb port, what do I need to connect it to a hub/switch,
[04:30] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, u must be missing something indeed... system>administration
[04:30] <markitoxs> hello, can anyone know, help me with photoshop installation, it gets frozen after initializing the installshield, i tried with cedega also..
[04:30] <silverpower> gnomefreak: okay, turning back on UseFBDev gives me X again. Let's see if DRI also works now.