[00:00] <Feebz> @k1l thanks using Gallium 0.4 Gallium 0.4 on ATI R430
[00:00] <TJ-> epsilonorion: That's if the interface is "auto" of course. If it is "iface ethX inet dhcp" then "dhclient ethX" is started... which as you've seen sends DHCPREQ packets with progressively longer timeouts if the DHCP server doesn't respond, which causes the "starting networking " phase to hang around for up to 3 minutes if no response is received.
[00:01] <sazawal> I am trying to install sbagen on Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit. I am getting errors while running ./mk as told in the documentation.
[00:01] <epsilonorion> TJ-: thats not a problem.  Okay, so that lines up with what I have been observing.  I am just trying to find a way to make it more reasonable.  I have decreased the timeout, but now I never seem to connect to the more complicated router using wpa2 enterprise (with setup http://pastebin.com/Rf9AQqQy)
[00:01] <Feebz> @k1l so there's nothing to uninstall ?
[00:02] <TJ-> epsilonorion: Is it because wpa_supplicant takes so long?
[00:02] <Medo> Hello :0
[00:02] <ellipsis> Hello. I'm trying to write a script to restore a folder with rsync (as the folder may already have some of the files). The original folder was made with -az (archive and compress) as well as --link-dest (hardlink files which are the same). Am I correct in thinking that I just use -az to restore? (Hardlinked files can be ignored as they will just be treated as normal files right?)
[00:03] <Feebz> @k1l or do I uninstall the legacy xorg stuff
[00:03] <sazawal> I am trying to install sbagen on Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit. I am getting errors while running ./mk as told in the documentation. Here is the error log http://pastebin.com/Xgn30svY
[00:03] <epsilonorion> TJ-: I believe so
[00:03] <ellipsis> (Sorry, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask. But hardlinks should be treated just like files shouldn't they?
[00:03] <epsilonorion> TJ-: But I am not familiar with wpa_supplicant enough at the moment to make it more efficient (if it is even possible)
[00:04] <skinux> Is 'sed' still a good tool for sending inline arguments (used in shell scripts)?
[00:04] <Medo> guys i did all what you told me here to recover my encrypted home folder and it didnt work :\
[00:05] <xangua> Medo: how did you encrypted it¿ what's wrong'
[00:05] <skinux> Is there a RAM monitor GUI?
[00:05] <epsilonorion> TJ-: In Ubuntu Desktop I don't have a problem with it, but with Ubuntu Server I am still learning the best way to handle it
[00:05] <xangua> skinux: you mean like an indicator¿ http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[00:05] <b0ink_devx_> Hello all, would anyone be able to help me with my repositories not updating in ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[00:06] <TJ-> epsilonorion: I've got a USB stick for recovery work that has wpa_supplicant configured, when I've finished what I'm doing I'll grab the config from it. It might help you as a template
[00:06] <Medo> xangua: its encrypted due to system crash and im not able to login to my system anymore then i got the 12.04 LTS on usb and using live mode i try to decrypt it but i failed to do that
[00:06] <zilly> Where can I download /usr/share/checkbox/ source code that comes with Ubuntu? Specifically, I am looking for the /usr/share/checkbox/scripts/create_connection script.
[00:06] <b0ink_devx_> im getting this error message:  A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:06] <b0ink_devx_> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release
[00:06] <b0ink_devx_> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[00:07] <xangua> !gpgerr | b0ink_devx_
[00:07] <callipygous> Anybody able to help me with my issue?  I'm trying to connect Tuner Studio to my cars ECU, but there is a problem with it creating /var/lock/ files...
[00:07] <epsilonorion> TJ-: thanks
[00:08] <Rexter> I've got a broadcom bcm5702x wireless card. I can't figure out how to get it working.
[00:08] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: Build done, files being uploaded so you can test
[00:09] <Medo> xangua:  any help !!
[00:09] <b0ink_devx_> thank you ubottu
[00:09] <b0ink_devx_> i will try that
[00:09] <TJ-> Rexter Nor can Broadcom, when it comes to Linux, often! They're not great with their Linux support
[00:11] <Rexter> TJ; I've had it working before. I did an OS change to lubuntu 12.04, and just can't remember.
[00:11] <skinux> System Load Indicator may be what I'm looking for. I'm checking it out, thanks.
[00:11] <TJ-> Rexter: Was it a case of having to build/install some out-of-tree driver?
[00:12] <Rhombix> hey, is there a room specific to ubuntu installations?
[00:12] <Rexter> TJ; yea, just a matter of installing the right thing in the right order.
[00:13] <Rexter> TJ; the thing that's confusing me, I search, but everything people point to is about the BCM43
[00:14] <glitsj16> TJ-: awesome, skinkitten said he'd return shortly .. are you uploading to your Development projects PPA ?
[00:14] <Konata> Just curious, is anyone having issues with the us ubuntu repos?
[00:15] <n-iCe> not m
[00:15] <n-iCe> me
[00:15] <n-iCe> us
[00:15] <Konata> Ah
[00:15] <Konata> Well that was strange, I just downloaded updates and the speed at one point was basically 1,022 bytes per second
[00:16] <Rhombix> after trying to install ubuntu on an external hard drive, i seem to have messed up at the partition stage. now the hard drive will not be read whatsoever, even if i unplug and reconnect
[00:18] <TJ-> glitsj16: Yes... and I've uploaded all the local-built packages to my server
[00:18] <no_name> I'm running 12.04 w/ NVIDIA drivers and when I run chrome X11 tunnelled via SSH, the first time I run it on my remote machine, the local widgets are all just clips of local video memory garbage.  Later times I run it, it is fine.  If I try it from a windows machine with xming, I don't have this problem.  If I run firefox first I don't have the problem. any ideas?
[00:18] <Rexter> Rhombix; you cannot ruin an HD by partitioning in incorrectly, just do it again.
[00:18] <Bashing-om> Konata: No problem -> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ->1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. HIH .
[00:18] <Konata> Bashing-om, wasn't a problem with installing the updates
[00:19] <Konata> it was a problem with retrieving the updates
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Konata: (1,896 kB/s) mine .
[00:20] <Konata> heh
[00:20] <Rhombix> Rexter: that is simple enough, but nothing i can do will display the drive, so i cannot access it enough to make those changes
[00:20] <Konata> mine went to like 1000 bytes/sec and then up to 500Kb/s at its peak
[00:21] <Medo> Jordan_U: i did every thing u said and it didnt work
[00:21] <Rexter> Rhombix; is it USB?
[00:21] <TJ-> Rhombix: How is the drive connected? eSATA, USB2, USB3, SCSI?
[00:22] <TJ-> Rhombix: unplug it, then in a terminal do "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" then watch the kernel messages whilst you reconnect the device. Press Ctrl+C when the messages stop (if any), then pastebin the results for us to see
[00:22] <n-iCe> hi
[00:22] <Rhombix> Rexter, TJ-: yes, it is connected via USB
[00:22] <Medo> hi
[00:22] <Rhombix> Rexter: ok
[00:23] <Rexter> What OS are you running primary?
[00:23] <Rubas> Debian
[00:23] <Rubas> Now I feel that question was not aimed at me
[00:23] <glitsj16> TJ-: i'll wait for them to show in Dev projects, thanks again
[00:24] <Rubas> Goodnight, sleep well - when you get there :)
[00:24] <Rexter> Rhombix; what OS are you running primary?
[00:25] <TJ-> glitsj16: In case I've gone and the buildders are slow, you can point skinkitten to https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/gutenprint/
[00:26] <MacGuges> If I suspect that Ubuntu's initrd may be corrupt, is it possible to repair it?
[00:26] <Rhombix> Rexter: well i've just got a new computer after a hectic year moving around, and i'm in the middle of installing ubuntu 12.04 on it
[00:26] <glitsj16> TJ-: will do, I don't have to work tomorrow so I'll be around for skinkitten, or make a forum post he should get a hold off
[00:27] <Shurpu> hi everyone, we're two newbs looking for help as we try to install Ubuntu on an old laptop. I booted with an usb-stick but the screen resolution is way too low (600 x 400 maybe) so we can't even click on "Install" in the GUI or such. I tried to change resolution with xrandr (I've found it by Googling my problem) but it don't work. Who can help us please? Thank you.
[00:27] <callipygous> but it runs in to problems with /var/lock/USB...
[00:27] <callipygous> Anybody able to help me with my issue?  I'm trying to connect Tuner Studio to my cars ECU, but there is a problem with it creating /var/lock/ files...
[00:28] <Rexter> Rhombix; but why install to a USB drive, give me a little more info about this computer.
[00:28] <TJ-> Shurpu: You may do better with the alternate or server ISO installer, which is text-based
[00:28] <Rhombix> Rexter: just realised, there will be a problem. the paste you want me to get is from the computer, but i am here on irc via a smartphone
[00:29] <Shurpu> TJ- : ok I've never did it before I try googling it, thanks...
[00:30] <Rexter> Rhombix; why are you installing to an external usb drive?
[00:30] <Rexter> Shurpu; what are the system specs?
[00:31] <Rhombix> Rexter: no special reason, just that i have several external drives and i'll be looking at other distros before settling on a permanent OS
[00:32] <junknown> Hello! I'm having major graphics issues. I can't get nvidia gtx 780 working. Nouvea works fine but when I install the latest driver with edgers/ppa and restart it goes into low graphics mode. It looks like it can't find a display or something
[00:32] <Shurpu> Rexter : msi U180
[00:32] <Shurpu> Intel Atom N2600
[00:32] <Shurpu> 1 GB RAM
[00:32] <Shurpu> RF: 802.11b/g/n
[00:32] <junknown> I can't find a how to on getting it to work and it seems noone has this exact problem
[00:35] <Rhombix> Rexter: after running the command you sent me, the output contains the message 'hub 2-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[00:35] <TJ-> junknown: Have you checked "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for clues?
[00:35] <TJ-> Rhombix: Does the external drive have its own power source?
[00:36] <Rhombix> TJ-: no
[00:36] <Rexter> Rhombix, you're drunk. I didn't send you any commands. I only asked questions.
[00:36] <Rexter> Shurpu; graphics?
[00:37] <Rhombix> Rexter: i meant, the line you asked me to run. sorry.
[00:37] <Rexter> Rhombix, I did no such thing.
[00:38] <Shurpu> Rexter: 10" WSVGA
[00:38] <TJ-> Rhombix: Most external drives need their own power source, because the theoretical 0.5A per port a hub is supposed to provide often isn't there, and isn't sufficient
[00:38] <Rhombix> Rexter: my mistake, it was TJ- who said it. again, sorry.
[00:39] <Rexter> Shurpu, I meant do you know the graphics chipset?
[00:40] <Shurpu> Rexter : unfortunately not, sorry, this is a shitty laptop from a friend
[00:40] <Rexter> Shurpu; what OS are you trying to put on it?
[00:40] <junknown> TJ-: towards the end of Xorg.0.log >>> Screen (s) found, but none have a usable configuration.  Fatal server error: no screens found
[00:40] <Shurpu> Rexter: Ubuntu Saucy
[00:41] <TJ-> junknown: Examine the entire log-file in more detail, you're sure to find clues
[00:41] <Rexter> Shurpu; main edition with Unity?
[00:42] <Shurpu> Rexter : yes. I'd like to remind we're both really really newb, we try to learn by searching online but solutions we found don't work, that's why we're here.
[00:43] <ericmuyser> having a slight problem when I `sudo su myuser` and it's going to /home/ubuntu, not the home dir set in /usr/passwd (echo $HOME is correct)
[00:43] <ericmuyser> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58484258/Screenshots/lxeb.png
[00:44] <Ben64> ericmuyser: why are you doing "sudo su" ??
[00:44] <ericmuyser> the home dir is /ude/users/dogeify not /home/ubuntu
[00:44] <Rexter> Shurpu; that's going to be to heavy for that machine. It's going to be a bad experience for you, and someone who is new to Linux, it's going to create an un-fair bad impression. That laptop came with XP, did it not?
[00:44] <ericmuyser> Ben64: is there a better way? (i'm using an ssh key for ubuntu, too lazy to do one for this specific user)
[00:45] <Shurpu> "can't open display" when trying to use xrandr
[00:46] <Rexter> I need help getting a broadcom bcm5702x wireless card working.
[00:47] <Ben64> ericmuyser: su - <username>
[00:47] <jeffrey_f> http://www.wimp.com/brideunique/
[00:47] <ericmuyser> Ben64: I love you <3
[00:47] <Rexter> Ben64; why not sudo -i?
[00:48] <Ben64> because he doesn't want root
[00:48] <epsilonorion> TJ-: Not sure when you thought you may be able to send that file, but I will be switching locations here in a minute resulting in logging off for about 30
[00:48] <TJ-> epsilonorion: Thanks for reminding me; got sidetracked
[00:49] <ericmuyser> Ben64: I have a .bashrc in the ~ dir but it's not sourcing it with that command, idea?
[00:50] <Rexter> Shurpu; hows it looking?
[00:50] <Vivekananda> hey everyone earlier updates used to show up on the top but does not show up on unity 12.04
[00:50] <Vivekananda> how do I know if I have new ones ?
[00:51] <Rexter> Rhombix; hows it looking?
[00:51] <Shurpu> Rexter: thanks again for your help... I tried to use DISPLAY=:0.0 sudo xrandr --screen 0 -s 1280x1024 and it returned me "Size 1280x1024 not found in available modes"
[00:51] <Rexter> Vivekananda; new updates, vs old updates?
[00:52] <Rexter> Shurpu, are you in the live environment?
[00:52] <xangua> Vivekananda: install "update indicator" http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[00:53] <Vivekananda> xangua: in lucid on new updates something popped
[00:54] <Vivekananda> now I dont see them. Is that now an added software and not a core one ?
[00:54] <Shurpu> Rexter: I'm running the usb live Ubuntu for "trying" if that's what you asked. I'd wish to install it, but with a usable GUI resolution.
[00:54] <Vivekananda> the pop up notificatoin I mean ?
[00:54] <Rexter> Shura, how did you create the USB?
[00:54] <Rhombix> Rexter: i'll be perfectly honest, i have been laboring over this installation for 5 hours now, and every little thing has turned into a trainwreck. i am starting to question my sanity, yet i haven't even got further than the second step of the installation without something to stop me
[00:55] <Shurpu> Rexter : with the official ISO, and with the Universal USB live installer
[00:55] <Shurpu> Rexter : it worked well on my computer (I'm on Ubuntu right now with my own)
[00:55] <Rhombix> this isn't even OpenBSD, it's just plain ubuntu
[00:56] <TJ-> epsilonorion: here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946394/
[00:56] <Rhombix> it's supposed to be the easiest things for someone to install
[00:56] <Rhombix> *one of the
[00:56] <Rexter> Rhombix, help me understand what you are doing. Why are you installing to an external drive?
[00:57] <Rhombix> Rexter: no special reason, just that i have several external drives and i'll be looking at other distros before settling on a permanent OS
[00:57] <Rexter> Shura, it's going to be easier to work on the graphics issue after the install. hook that thing up to a monitor, and install.
[00:58] <Shurpu> Rexter: well, unfortunately we don't have another monitor here... :/
[00:58] <Rhombix> well, that was my reason. i guess i'll have to revise all this in light of what has happened tonight
[00:58] <jeffrey_f> hi
[00:58] <jeffrey_f> oops, wrong window
[00:59] <Rexter> Rhombix, boot to the live environment, run gparted. If the drive is not listed, it's a hardware, or BIOS issue.
[00:59] <epsilonorion> TJ-: Thank you
[00:59] <basketball> how do i download the 14.04 beta
[01:00] <Rhombix> Rexter: what is gparted?
[01:00] <Vivekananda> how do I find the current video
[01:00] <[x]> Vivekananda :O
[01:01] <Rexter> Rhombix; Gparted is a drive partitioning tool included on the live CD, you can use it to re-partition the drive.
[01:02] <Vivekananda> sorry I meant how do I find the current versions of php or python that are avaialble from repos in ubuntu
[01:02] <junknown> TJ-: So my xorg file says the NVIDIA kernel module fails to start. BUt I have no idea why or how to go about fixing it. Nothing in the kernel log says anything about nvidia errors as far as I can find
[01:02] <Vivekananda> something like apt-search ?
[01:02] <Rhombix> Rexter: ok, thank you. i'll try that.
[01:02] <willwh> Vivekananda: apt-cache search <package> | grep <something>
[01:02] <TJ-> Shurpu: When the target is in "Try" mode, does it have an IP address? If so, you can do Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a text console, then do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" ... after that, do "passwd" and set a password for the "ubuntu" user used by the live environment, then from your 'good' PC, do "ssh ubuntu@<IP-of-other-PC>" ... if that works, you can then do some remote diagnostics to sort it out from the comfort of your good PC
[01:02] <willwh> Vivekananda: like, apt-cache search php ? :)
[01:02] <Rexter> Shurpu, ubuntu 13.10 is too heavy for that machine anyway. You're about to do all this work, and have it not run well anyway.
[01:02] <[x]> Vivekananda "which python"
[01:02] <[x]> ?
[01:02] <[x]> :D
[01:03] <willwh> that would be what is installed [x]
[01:03] <TJ-> junknown: That's important, if the kernel module failed... go to "/var/log/kern.log" ... search for "nvidia"
[01:03] <willwh> not what packages are available
[01:03] <Vivekananda> willwh: yep
[01:03] <Rexter> Shurpu, look into xubuntu, lubuntu, or better yet ZorinOS lite.
[01:03] <[x]> :| Willis ok
[01:03] <willwh> Shurpu: or Arch ;]
[01:03] <willwh> \but 13.10 is actually fairly sys intensive, and likes a GFX card
[01:03] <willwh> I run arch on all my low powered machines
[01:04] <Rexter> Shurpu, these are all ubuntu based, but better for a machine like that.
[01:04] <willwh> Rexter's right htough - I wouldn't recommend running 13,10 on low end systems
[01:04] <Vivekananda> Willis: that gave me a tonne of results . how do I narrow itdown to php core and also to find the current version avaialable ?
[01:04] <willwh> you're gonna have a bad time
[01:04] <basketball> ubottu, gparted
[01:04] <basketball> ubottu, gparted
[01:04] <[x]> :|
[01:04] <basketball> how do i download the 14.04 beta
[01:04] <Vivekananda> willwh: how about running 13.10 with a lighter manager ?
[01:04] <Rhombix> Rexter: gparted will not display the external drive
[01:05] <TJ-> Let's be clear here, running the full ubuntu-desktop 3D isn't recommended. Nothing wrong with 13.10 or any other version, just the particular GUI chosen.
[01:05] <Shurpu> Rexter : thanks for your support, we'll try something else. I'm leaving the chan. Thank you again for your warm help.
[01:06] <willwh> Vivekananda: I wouldn't recommend it
[01:06] <Rexter> Shurpu, willwh, Arch is a totally different animal. As a newbie, if you like ubuntu, stick with it for now.
[01:06] <[x]> Vivekananda check your personal msg :(
[01:06] <willwh> Rexter: not a newb at all, I well know that
[01:06] <junknown> TJ-: when searching the kern.log for nvidia, the only thing that comes up is a similar line over and over but nothing about any kind of errors.
[01:06] <willwh> I started with gentoo like 14 years ago :x
[01:07] <willwh> I'm lazy nowadays, hence why I'm here (hahaha) :)
[01:07] <TJ-> junknown: Are you able to copy the "/var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to pastebins so I can view them?
[01:07] <[x]> dual boot is best way to run ubuntu or virtual machine ??
[01:07] <Xuisce> hey willwh
[01:07] <basketball> how do i download 14.04 beta
[01:07] <willwh> Xuisce: hi
[01:07] <Rexter> willwh, Shurpu is the newb, not ready for arch.
[01:07] <TJ-> basketball: Beta 1 isn't out until the 27th
[01:08] <willwh> basketball: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ (TRY GOOGLE NEXT TIME, I TYPED "ubuntu 14.04" in to google :( )
[01:08] <[x]> Rexter me too n00b ? arch wont suits me
[01:08] <Rexter> Rhombix, do you have another computer?
[01:08] <willwh> Rexter: rgr I'm not following chat too much, just hilights  :)
[01:08] <Rhombix> Rexter: no
[01:08] <TJ-> basketball: however, the current daily dev builds can be found at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/  ... try the #ubuntu+1 channel for support
[01:09] <basketball> is it stable
[01:09] <Vivekananda> also how do I look for the php version and narrow the search down as I requested earlier ?
[01:09] <Rhombix> Rexter: just this android phone
[01:09] <TJ-> basketball: Of course not! It's the development version!
[01:09] <Xuisce> Vivekananda:  hey
[01:09] <basketball> so i shouldnt install it
[01:09] <junknown> TJ-: I can't really think of a way to get that stuff onto a pastebin, i'm currently typing to you on a separate computer
[01:09] <Vivekananda> so anyone ?
[01:09] <TJ-> junknown: Ahh.. does the 'problem' PC not have any network connection?
[01:09] <Vivekananda> Xuisce: :) hi. Why do you change your name each day ?
[01:09] <junknown> TJ-: Actually wait i could set up ssh real quick
[01:09] <willwh> Vivekananda: Vivekananda you can use grep, but apt supports tan completion
[01:10] <willwh> tab*
[01:10] <Vivekananda> hmm okay
[01:10] <Rexter> [x], you can do Arch as a noob, if you are the type of person who sees the journey as more important than the destination.
[01:10] <willwh> i.e.
[01:10] <willwh> sudo apt-get install php5
[01:10] <TJ-> junknown: on the 'problem' PC: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and then give me the pastebin URLs
[01:10] <Rexter> Rhombix, do you have any other usb drives?
[01:10] <[x]> ok Rexter
[01:10] <willwh> but you can do things like this: apt-cache show <packagename> to get a full summary (try apt-cache show php5)
[01:11] <willwh> Vivekananda: honestly if you want "fresh" php stuff - you're going to need more than the regular repos
[01:11] <willwh> how new to linux/ubuntu are you?
[01:11] <TJ-> Rhombix: Rexter FYI ... I've killed two USB hubs in the past that had external drives on them, self-powered too, so it is possible to fry USB chipsets in the USB-to-SATA/IDE chips
[01:12] <Rexter> [x], you would learn a lot if you were willing to take the time, but if you want something that just works quickly, ubuntu is much better for that.
[01:12] <basketball> is there a torrent
[01:12] <willwh> tbh, a lot of it depends on your lvl of general IT knowledge
[01:12] <Vivekananda> willwh: that is a secondary question. my first question is how to di find out what versions are avaialble to me in the current repo . I tried using : apt-cache search ph...  and tab completion does not help
[01:12] <willwh> total noobs should NOT touch arch :)
[01:12] <basketball> for ubuntu 14.04
[01:13] <willwh> Vivekananda: I'm not sure what you want
[01:13] <willwh> are you talking major versions?
[01:13] <willwh> i.e.
[01:13] <willwh> apt-cache show php5 == current version of PHP in the repos you have available
[01:13] <willwh> if you try; apt-get install php(start pushing tab)
[01:13] <Vivekananda> I have version 5.3.10 installed for php . I want to find out if 5.4.  or 5.5 are there in the repos yet
[01:14] <willwh> it'll show you all packages starting php....
[01:14] <[x]> Rexter i did love to use Ubuntu most of time i am messed up with that , i couldnt even use "vi" editor to edit hostname.
[01:14] <TJ-> Vivekananda: "apt-cache policy <package-name>" will show you the versions of a package and where they are in the archives
[01:14] <willwh> Vivekananda: I would go; apt-get update && apt-cache show php | grep 5.4
[01:14] <Ben64> basketball: 14.04 support and discussion in #ubuntu+1 until release
[01:14] <willwh> TJ-: perfetto I didn't know that :)
[01:14] <basketball> Ben64,  that channel is dead
[01:14] <junknown> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946424/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946428/
[01:14] <willwh> apt-cache policy php5
[01:15] <willwh> ah nice :]
[01:15] <Rexter> [x], are you on Arch now?
[01:15] <willwh> so Vivekananda if you need newer versions - you'll need to enable different repositories
[01:15] <[x]> no i :|
[01:15] <[x]> i use ubuntu in as vm
[01:15] <[x]> i didnt tried arch
[01:16] <[x]> just tried ubuntu and backtrack. Rexter
[01:16] <TJ-> Vivekananda: For major package versions, you can use regular expressions e.g. "apt-cache search '^php[[:digit:]\.]+[^-]' "
[01:16] <TJ-> junknown: got them
[01:17] <Vivekananda> willwh: I am trying apt-get install php and tab and it shows a bunchof stuff including somee with php5 .. but nothing that shows me like php 5.5.10
[01:17] <willwh> Vivekananda: and it won't
[01:17] <willwh> did you trey what TJ- said? apt-cache show policy php5
[01:17] <Rexter> I need help getting broadcom bcm5702x wireless installed.
[01:17] <willwh> Vivekananda: sorry, apt-cache policy php5
[01:18] <TJ-> junknown: OK, your solution is easy :)
[01:18] <willwh> Vivekananda: as I said - you need to enable different repositories, to get later versions
[01:18] <tom_> how can i get ia32libs for 64 bit ubuntu 13.10 desktop
[01:18] <TJ-> willwh: lose the "show" - that's a different option entirely, just use "policy"
[01:18] <willwh> yep, I corrteced a line up
[01:18] <willwh> Vivekananda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[01:19] <TJ-> junknown: Can you show the results of the following?  "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia* | pastebinit"
[01:19] <Adie> ubuntu says I have 15.6 GiB of RAM, but I have 16
[01:19] <Adie> y
[01:20] <Vivekananda> willwh: I understood that part but installing an later versions is not my question. My question was to figure out what versions are available to me ( by versions I mean the complete version name that is all the three dots (.) eg 5.5.12) in the present system with the Present repos enabled.
[01:20] <ezioa> anyone know why i'm getting an error with gpart -b sda.mbr.bak /dev/sda
[01:20] <ezioa> seek failure
[01:20] <TJ-> Adie: 15.6GB of addressable ... the other 0.4 will be masked out by the GPU's memory space, most likely
[01:20] <marz> wlan0 no longer shows up when i do a "ifconfig" . . . I'm unable to connect to WiFi too.
[01:20] <willwh> Vivekananda: and a few people have offered different ways to find out
[01:20] <willwh> I'm logging, nighters
[01:21] <ezioa> marz: post dmsg and lspci -v
[01:21] <ezioa> marz: dmesg
[01:21] <TJ-> Vivekananda: "apt-cache policy php5" shows that ... the PHP version number is followed by the Debian/Ubuntu version, as in e.g. 5.4.9 - 4ubuntu2.4
[01:21] <Vivekananda> TJ-: thanks lemme try that
[01:22] <ezioa> marz: did you do something with your kernel?
[01:22] <ezioa> anyone know how I can copy a windows 8 mbr?
[01:22] <tom_> guess no one knows
[01:22] <Rexter> Rhombix, that's what I was getting to. Either the drive is bad, or your USB ports are not working.
[01:22] <TJ-> ezioa: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=mbr.bin bs=512 count=1"
[01:23] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I tried it and it showed me only 5.3.10 which is also the version installed. The php people tell me it is eol pretty soon.
[01:23] <Vivekananda> Shouldnt that mean ubuntu would have the upgrade in the regular repos ?
[01:23] <[x]> i need to customize my desktop appearance conky best or screen lets best ?
[01:23] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Well, that's the version in your release of Ubuntu
[01:24] <junknown> TJ-: "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia* " Just leaves me with an arrow and a cursor on the following line
[01:24] <ezioa> TJ-: what about the partition info?
[01:24] <[x]> Rexter i need to customize my desktop appearance conky best or screen lets best ?
[01:24] <marz> ezioa: I didn't do anything. Well, not consciously though. dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946464/ lspci -v: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946466/
[01:24] <TJ-> ezioa: what about it?
[01:25] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I am having lts 13.04
[01:25] <glitsj16> junknown: close the ' .. so try: dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*'
[01:26] <Rexter> [x], I don't know much about that. I've used conkey. I don't know about the other one.
[01:26] <ezioa> anyone know how to backup partition information ... gparted keeps telling me seek failure: gpart -b sda.mbr.bak /dev/sda *** Fatal error: dev(/dev/sda): seek failure.
[01:26] <junknown> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946472/
[01:26] <[x]> Rexter ok !!!
[01:26] <TJ-> Vivekananda: 13.04 is EOL
[01:26] <TJ-> junknown: thanks :)
[01:27] <Rexter> could someone help me get my wireless working?
[01:28] <TJ-> junknown: one more, then I can give you the command to build the nvidia module. "ls -al /usr/src/ /lib/modules/`uname -r`/update/dkms/ | pastebinit"
[01:28] <glitsj16> skinkitten: did you see TJ-'s message yet?
[01:28] <TJ-> ezioa: have you checked"/var/log/kern.log" to see what the disk errors are?
[01:29] <TJ-> junknown: There's a vital space between those two paths in the 'ls' command there
[01:29] <marz> wlan0 no longer shows up when I do a "ifconfig?. I can no longer connect to WiFi
[01:29] <Vivekananda> TJ-: sorry I mean 12.04
[01:30] <junknown> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946484
[01:30] <TJ-> Vivekananda: lol yeah, I thought so! I think you'll find that it will be updated since its an LTS, but I can't say for sure. You'd have to question the package maintainers
[01:33] <TJ-> junknown: OK, this should do it: "sudo dkms build nvidia-331/331.38" ... if that is successful, we'll move on to install it. If it shows an error, we'll have to pastebin the log-file the error message points you to
[01:34] <junknown> TJ-: Module nvidia-331/331.38 already built or kernel 3.11.0-15-generic/4
[01:35] <TJ-> junknown: great!
[01:35] <jak2000> anyone have a tutorial for configure in my server, the domian and static ip? thanks
[01:35] <TJ-> junknown: "sudo dkms install nvidia-331/331.38"
[01:36] <junknown> TJ-: nvidia-331/331.38 already installed on kernel 3.11.0-15-generic/x86_64
[01:36] <ezioa> marz: that doesn't look like lscpi -v output
[01:37] <TJ-> junknown: really? I didn't see it in the 'ls' output earlier... try that again: "ls -la /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/dkms/ | pastebinit"
[01:37] <ice9> is there a better file manager KDE?
[01:38] <rww> i expect that depends on what's wrong with dolphin
[01:41] <junknown> TJ-: If I run that command with 'uname -r' I get no such file or directory, but if I put in 3.11.0-15-generic I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946512/
[01:41] <ice9> rww: I don't like Dolphone
[01:41] <TJ-> junknown: that's worrying! what does "uname -r" report?
[01:42] <rww> ice9: I gathered that. Why not?
[01:42] <rww> ice9: I can't really tell you what's better than it if I don't know what's wrong with it, can I? :P
[01:42] <junknown> TJ-: 3.11.0-15-generic
[01:43] <TJ-> junknown: Are you using the back-tick ` or the single-quote ' ? I'm using `back-ticks` which cause the command inside them to be executed in a sub-shell, and its result inserted in place of the `back-ticks`
[01:43] <marz> ezioa: I got it working now, I followed the instructions here even though I don't understand it though. lol http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-bcm43xx
[01:43] <ice9> rww: I don't like how things are fitted together,  also about functionality: when you click on icon and it show the 'x'  icon
[01:44] <ezioa> marz: yes.  that's what lspci -v would've told me
[01:44] <TJ-> junknown: OK, lets carry on. do this: "sudo modprobe nvidia-331"  ... then do "tail -n 30 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[01:44] <marz> ezioa: sorry about that,. . . thank you anyways
[01:44] <ezioa> np
[01:45] <TipDoubler> Seperate me from my own two hands; I've killed so many times, but I can't save the world from the creatures that don't die...
[01:45] <rww> HDRDanny: that... doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question :P
[01:45] <junknown> TJ-: You wwere correct on the backtick. Was not aware. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946541/
[01:45] <marz> ezioa: Another question, how do I determine if Ubuntu is using my video card? or if it is properly installed?
[01:46] <TJ-> junknown: ok, it's loaded correctly.... now lets see if you can get the GUI to start! "sudo service lightdm restart"
[01:46] <ezioa> marz: umm try a 3d test
[01:47] <ezioa> ati, nvidia?
[01:47] <ice9> rww: I dot another  Ubuntu support question, how to change a file's UID?
[01:47] <rww> ice9: chmod newusernamehere filenamehere
[01:47] <marz> ezioa: nvidia, how do I do a 3d test?
[01:47] <TJ-> ice9: "chown uid:gid <file>"
[01:47] <rww> erm, right, that
[01:47] <rww> i am terrible at mixing those two up
[01:48] <TJ-> rww: so are my fingers ;p
[01:48] <ezioa> marz: do you have an icon of a key in your system tray?
[01:48] <ice9> rww: that will change owner:group id but not the uid
[01:48] <junknown> TJ-: I am now watching a screen that flashes red then green then blue, then red/green/blue, then white, then a horizontal gradient, then a vertical gradient then black. hahaha
[01:48] <rww> ice9: precisely what do you think a uid is?
[01:50] <TJ-> junknown: Psychedelic :) ... OK ... "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:50] <marz> ezioa: a key? nope . . . But I have a gear icon on the upper right side which lists System Settings, Display, Startup Application, Software up to Date, shutdown, restart, etc.
[01:50] <junknown> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6946560/
[01:51] <HDRDanny> rww, it'
[01:51] <HDRDanny> It'
[01:51] <HDRDanny> dang it.
[01:51] <HDRDanny> It's not!
[01:51] <HDRDanny> :P
[01:51] <ezioa> marz: search for a program that says "drivers" in it
[01:51] <basketball> !gparted Rexter
[01:51] <ezioa> marz: with the unity program launcher
[01:51] <basketball> Rexter,  !gparted
[01:51] <rww> !gparted
[01:51] <basketball> !gparted
[01:52] <basketball> !gparted
[01:52] <Xuisce> !india
[01:52] <Xuisce> ah
[01:52] <Xuisce> !korea
[01:52] <rww> basketball: the syntax to send it to a specific person is !gparted | Rexter (to put it in the channel), or !gparted > Rexter (to PM it). The bot doesn't repeat itself.
[01:52] <Xuisce> hm
[01:52] <rom1504> !china
[01:52] <rom1504> cool
[01:52] <rww> Xuisce: you can investigate the bot with /msg ubottu korea (for example).
[01:52] <basketball> oh thanks rww
[01:52] <Xuisce> ah thanks rww
[01:52] <TJ-> junknown: "(WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to get display device DFP-3's EDID; cannot compute DPI" so, how many and how are the monitor(s) connected?
[01:53] <marz> ezioa: Do you mean "Additional Drivers"?
[01:53] <Rexter> !gparted | basketball
[01:54] <ezioa> marz: yes
[01:54] <junknown> TJ-: I have a single  2560x1440 monitor connected with DUal DVI
[01:54] <basketball> Rexter,   you asked not me
[01:54] <Rexter> basketball, lol I asked what?
[01:55] <TJ-> junknown: OK, well the problem is, that monitor isn't providing the GPU with its resolutions and refresh rates, via EDID data
 Rexter: what is gparted?
[01:55] <basketball> oh that was rhombix
[01:55] <basketball> my bad
[01:56] <Rexter> basketball, are you any good with broadcom drivers though?
[01:56] <basketball> kinda
[01:56] <marz> ezioa: I see a NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release) (version 331-updates). It says "This driver is activated and currently in use." So I assume that the driver is installed properly.
[01:57] <marz> ezioa: When I boot up my laptop, and I get to the Login Screen, the screen displays some white dots and displays the original wallpaper, the orange thing, instead of my custom wallpaper. Is there any way I can change that?
[01:57] <ezioa> marz: I believe so.  Try your luck at a 3D tester.
[01:57] <Rexter> basketball, I have a Dell with bcm57xxx card. I can't remember how to make it work.
[01:58] <Rexter> basketball, I need to install firmware or something/
[01:58] <_doug_> So... this is frustrating. I have 3 displays plugged into an nvidia card. The ubuntu installer seems all three. I reboot and NONE of them work. I have to boot with one display plugged in, and then plug the other two in after boot. Also seeing this with Mint.
[01:59] <junknown> TJ-: hmmmm the monitor worked fine when I had just the nouveau drivers installed and it also works fine with in windows
[01:59] <TJ-> junknown: OK, so then that suggests a problem with the driver
[01:59] <TJ-> junknown: so now we know what to search the web for
[01:59] <marz> ezioa:  Okay. Thanks a lot mate. :D
[02:00] <ice9> rww: sorry I meant the UUID
[02:00] <ezioa> marz: np
[02:01] <TJ-> junknown: just found this "The problem with these monitors and PROPRIETARY Linux drivers is that they use a new version of EDID information that is NOT yet supported by the nvidia or fglrx (catalyst) drivers on Linux"
[02:02] <TJ-> junknown: Try this if you can, see if you can solve it: http://learnitwithme.com/?p=342
 IdleOne,  SCSI error on write(36592,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 4 "Drive error", ASC 03 ASCQ 00.
 when burning to dv
[02:03] <skinkitten> TJ-, glitsj16 any update?
[02:04] <junknown> TJ-: Thanks so much for the help! I'll work on that.
[02:04] <TJ-> glitsj16: In case I've gone and the buildders are slow, you can point skinkitten to https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/gutenprint/
[02:05] <TJ-> skinkitten: You can download all the files from my server there; I've uploaded the source to the launchpad PPA builders so at some point soon the packages should also be available from my development PPA
[02:06] <TJ-> skinkitten: My PPA is at https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ppa
[02:08] <skinkitten> TJ-, where exactly will it appear when the builders take care of it? on here? https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ppa
[02:09] <TJ-> skinkitten: Yes, and you'll be able to add my PPA to your system's apt sources so you can install/remove with apt-get
[02:09] <skinkitten> TJ-, I'm assuming it will show up as a tar under latest updates. correct?
[02:10] <TJ-> skinkitten: No!
[02:10] <TJ-> skinkitten: debian packages
[02:11] <Rexter> I'm stuck on a Broadcom wireless issue. BCM57xx. I could really use some help.
[02:12] <skinkitten> everything that ends in .deb on here https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/gutenprint/ should be downloaded? How do I install ? I'm a newbie. I need you to be more explicit. :)
[02:12] <TJ-> skinkitten: oh ok... let me write a script you can simply run, then
[02:13] <skinkitten> o.o thank you
[02:18] <Vivekananda> my ubuntu has another weird problem
[02:19] <Vivekananda> sometimes when I initiate shutdown and mostly with a few programs open it does not completely power off but the screen is kind of lighed up a bit although it is black. then I hve to force shutdown it
[02:22] <basketball> when i was burning to disk i got a SCSI error on write(138304,16): [4 09 01] Drive error. Tracking servo failure.   error
[02:23] <TJ-> skinkitten: I hope this will work! "SC=get_gutenprint_from_tj.sh; wget http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/gutenprint/$SC && chmod a+x $SC && ./$SC"
[02:25] <Kekai> Okay
[02:25] <Kekai> hello
[02:25] <Kekai> I run Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo Netbook S10 Ideapad
[02:25] <Kekai> with 200GB of HD space and 512gb of ram
[02:26] <skinkitten> TJ-, Resolving iam.tj (iam.tj)... <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:26] <skinkitten> Connecting to iam.tj (iam.tj)|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[02:26] <skinkitten> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[02:26] <skinkitten> 2014-02-16 21:25:54 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[02:26] <TJ-> skinkitten: hahah great start!
[02:26] <skinkitten> I copied and pasted what you said
[02:26] <skinkitten> it is?
[02:26] <Kekai> if I install XCFE does that make it officially Xubuntu 13.10 or will I stll need to go to ubuntu sites
[02:26] <Kekai> and If I install it through Terminal, will I keep all my files?
[02:27] <[x]> 512gb ram ??
[02:27] <[x]> or 512mb
[02:27] <Kekai> its an old PC that still works
[02:27] <Kekai> mb
[02:27] <Kekai> yeah
[02:27] <Kekai> which is why I am switching to a lighter desktop
[02:27] <[x]> :|
[02:28] <Kekai> Ubuntu keep freezing on me
[02:28] <Kekai> idk what to do
[02:28] <[x]> Kekai try backtrack
[02:28] <[x]> :D
[02:28] <Kekai> I know how to install the Desktop enviroment
[02:28] <Kekai> Just will it make me an official Xubuntu user or will I have to do a HDD wipe?
[02:29] <TJ-> skinkitten: try again: "SC=get_gutenprint_from_tj.sh; wget http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/gutenprint/$SC && chmod a+x $SC && ./$SC"
[02:29] <basketball> SCSI error on write(138304,16): [4 09 01] Drive error. Tracking servo failure.
[02:29] <Kekai> Can a mod help me please?
[02:29] <skinkitten> TJ-, SC=get_gutenprint_from_tj.sh; wget http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/gutenprint/$SC && chmod a+x $SC && ./$SC"
[02:29] <skinkitten> woops
[02:29] <skinkitten> TJ-, Resolving iam.tj (iam.tj)... <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:29] <skinkitten> Connecting to iam.tj (iam.tj)|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[02:29] <skinkitten> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[02:29] <skinkitten> 2014-02-16 21:29:40 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[02:30] <TJ-> skinkitten: that is weird, it works here the exact same
[02:30] <n^izzo> hey all
[02:30] <skinkitten> I copied and pasted your input
[02:31] <skinkitten> TJ-, ok i removed sudo which was I was adding
[02:31] <skinkitten> it is working now TJ-
[02:32] <Bashing-om> Kekai: All 'buntu distro have the same kernel, and all share the exact same software repository.
[02:32] <skinkitten> TJ-, here is the note it ended on : 2014-02-16 21:31:43 (455 KB/s) - `printer-driver-gutenprint_5.2.10-pre1-0ubuntu1~tj1_amd64.deb' saved [466460/466460]
[02:32] <skinkitten> [sudo] password for jose:
[02:32] <skinkitten> sudo: pkg: command not found
[02:32] <skinkitten> ~
[02:32] <n^izzo> does anyone know if I can save the state of a virtual machine in vmware and restore that machine on a different host with the same state?
[02:32] <TJ-> skinkitten: Grrr!... let me check :)
[02:33] <skinkitten> TJ-, : ok!
[02:33] <TJ-> skinkitten: OK, my typo in the script. you can fix it easily
[02:34] <TJ-> skinkitten: do "ls" ... do you see get_gutenprint_from_tj.sh  ?
[02:34] <skinkitten> yes TJ-
[02:35] <TJ-> skinkitten: OK ... do this: "cd gutenprint" then do "ls" and you should see a lot of .deb (debian package) files.... if so, do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" and that will install the driver... tell me if any of those packages generates an installation error or warning
[02:37] <skinkitten> TJ-, looks good. it ended in this note : ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[02:37] <skinkitten> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libcncpcmcm.so is not a symbolic link
[02:37] <skinkitten> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libcncpmsimg.so is not a symbolic link
[02:37] <skinkitten> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libcncpnet.so is not a symbolic link
[02:37] <skinkitten> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libcncpmslld.so is not a symbolic link
[02:37] <skinkitten> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libcncpmsui.so is not a symbolic link
[02:38] <TJ-> skinkitten: let me look those up, see what they are
[02:39] <junknown> TJ-: SO I tried to manually change xorg.conf for my monitor to no avail. I think I'll just stick with nouveau in hopes that they update nvidia soon. AFter what we did earlier what would be the easiest way to remove what we did and go back to nouveau? ppa-purge?
[02:40] <TJ-> junknown: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-331"
[02:40] <Cannon4TI> Hello, can anyone tell me the symbol for displaying errorcode's ? I am trying to modify my user prompt
[02:41] <TJ-> skinkitten: From what I can tell those are nothing to do with gutenprint; they must be something to do with what you've done on that system
[02:41] <TJ-> skinkitten: So, the drivers are installed... its up to you to figure out if they work :)
[02:41] <Cannon4TI> ...anyone?
[02:42] <skinkitten> TJ-, give me 5
[02:43] <basketball> how do i update my dvd drovers
[02:43] <MITStudent> Good night, I am a student of a course at MIT and need to interview 75 people to present my project to build mobile experience. Who can help me, send me a private message I send the link to the questionnaire. Are only 5 questions. Thank you.
[02:44] <Beldar> MITStudent, On the IRC in general this is considered spam, I would check use, just a heads up is all.
[02:45] <ecardona> hi, I need some help with avconv
[02:45] <junknown> TJ-: Sorry to keep bothering but I removed that and now I'm not able to get the resolution I could before :\
[02:46] <TJ-> junknown: Has nouveau loaded? "lsmod | grep nouveau" ?
[02:46] <skinkitten> printer status is stopped ><
[02:46] <basketball> dvd drive firmware update ubuntu 13.10
[02:46] <junknown> TJ-: That returns nothing
[02:47] <basketball> TJ-,  how do i dvd drive firmware update ubuntu 13.10
[02:47] <TJ-> skinkitten: is that good?
[02:48] <TJ-> basketball: the firmware is the embedded software in the DVD writer... very often they don't support newer DVD makes/types, so you need to check the DVD-writer manufacturer's web-site for the make/model for an update, and instructions on how it is installed into the DVD-writer
[02:48] <skinkitten> going to restart....printer info was there but no printer action as of yet
[02:48] <TJ-> junknown: OK, that means nouveau isn't being loaded. "sudo modprobe nouveau" to begin with
[02:48] <TJ-> junknown: then try restarting lightdm as before
[02:50] <TJ-> junknown: if that works, just check that there isn't a blacklist entry for nouveau left behind by nvidia: "sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* " - if there is, you'll need to remove those
[02:51] <shayne> am I on ubuntu IRC?
[02:51] <hewhomust> no
[02:51] <basketball> yes shayne
[02:52] <junknown> TJ-: I get /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf:blacklist nouveau   since I no longer need bumblebee for nvidia should i just delete the file?
[02:52] <junknown> actually
[02:52] <TJ-> junknown: remove the bumblebee package, maybe?
[02:53] <shayne> I have a new amd A6-6400K apu. I just installed 13.10 and ran the updates but I still am getting lots of weird screen artifacts when I move or resize windows. Anyone know of a way to fix that or if the A6 isn't supported yet?
[02:53] <basketball> !canibeop> TJ-
[02:53] <basketball> !canibeop | TJ-
[02:53] <Xuisce> !guatemala
[02:54] <junknown> TJ-: Yeah that worked :D
[02:54] <Xuisce> !belarus
[02:54] <Xuisce> hm
[02:54] <Xuisce> sorry ill use the other command /msg ubottu
[02:54] <junknown> TJ-: Is there anywhere I can donate money to you haha?
[02:54] <TJ-> junknown: No, but you can donate your time in the future to help other Ubuntueers
[02:55] <basketball> TJ-, check pm
[02:55] <skinkitten> TJ-, printer status : /usr/lib/cups/filter/gstoraster failed
[02:55] <junknown> TJ-: Well thankyou very much! Once I have a smidgen of knowledge to share I will do that :)
[02:56] <TJ-> skinkitten: that's a shame!
[02:56] <skinkitten> shameful =[
[02:56] <shayne> anyone have a working amd A6 machine with no dedicated video card?
[02:57] <shayne> I'm trying to decide what I need to do to fix my A6 setup
[02:57] <TJ-> skinkitten: I'm reading that that error is often caused by a config issue, and the best way to clear it is to completely delete the printer from printer settings, and then re-add it
[02:58] <skinkitten> TJ-, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IT PRINTED
[02:58] <skinkitten> \O/
[02:58] <TJ-> skinkitten: Colour?
[02:58] <[x]> O.o
[02:58] <albivian> hi guys
[02:58] <albivian> i'm having trouble getting usb with ubuntu to boot
[02:58] <albivian> using windwos 8
[02:59] <albivian> running msi ge40
[02:59] <skinkitten> haven't tried colour. the url at the top is cut off. the bottom "1 of 1" and time stamp is also cut off.
[02:59] <albivian> secure boot is turned off
[02:59] <anon99999> How do I use LIRC in Ubuntu 12.04 with a device connected by usb that has an infrared led and infrared receiver attached?
[02:59] <albivian> can anyone help me?
[02:59] <TJ-> albivian: That'll be UEFI ... have you disabled quick-boot ?
[02:59] <albivian> that's the option from contorl right?
[02:59] <albivian> TJ-: i'll check
[03:00] <TJ-> skinkitten: OK, that's probably the PPD for the printer max margins being wrong... you should be able to compensate for that in the printer configuration, maybe using a custom size, or even fixing the PPD file itself
[03:00] <TJ-> albivian: in most UEFI set-ups, its a boot option
[03:00] <albivian> TJ-: i've turned off fast startup
[03:00] <albivian> but i'm not sure about quick boot
[03:00] <albivian> TJ-: should I enter the BIOS?
[03:01] <TJ-> albivian: Good... that's the same thing just different names I think.
[03:01] <TJ-> albivian: when the system starts, are you pressing the system's alternate boot menu key, so you can choose which device to boot?
[03:02] <albivian> f11 yes
[03:02] <albivian> but none of them show the sandisk usb as an option
[03:02] <albivian> i've also done what was recommended by a few forums
[03:02] <albivian> and changing the boot priorities
[03:02] <albivian> the three types of usb (cd, hdd, or key)
[03:02] <albivian> none of them seem to trigger
[03:02] <TJ-> albivian: OK, for the USB, you might see two entries, one will begin something like "EFI: ... USB ..." the other maybe "ATA: ... USB...." ... you're choosing the "EFI:" entry?
[03:02] <albivian> the usb
[03:03] <albivian> TJ-:  i'll be right back
[03:03] <TJ-> albivian: ok
[03:03] <albivian> going on a differnt pc
[03:03] <TJ-> skinkitten: how you getting on?
[03:06] <albivion> i'm back
[03:07] <Vivekananda> ubuntu normally never troubles but when it does decide to do it heavens help the person. I had been avoiding updates and today I did all of them ie getting like 500 mbs of it all together
[03:07] <TJ-> Vivekananda: that's worse... better to do them as they come, much easier to track down causes of problems that way
[03:08] <albivion> TJ-: so you were saying about EFI or the other option?
[03:09] <TJ-> albivion: always choose the options that start "EFI" (or similar) rather than "AHCI or ATA or SCSI or whatever" - those others are all legacy BIOS-style boot options
[03:09] <albivion> TJ-:  yup that's the option I went with
[03:09] <albivion> UEFI
[03:09] <TJ-> albivion: Unfortunately there's no standard terminology so you have to guess from context for each different firmware
[03:09] <albivion> in this boot mode, usb doesn't work
[03:10] <Vivekananda> during the process nvidia drivers also got installed and on reboot the system was hanging at 'checking battery state' after telling me that drivers cannot recognize the graphis anc I should manually configure it. I pressed enter . then I got to the screen where it said manually configure or leave it as is and then I could not move the chosen option with tab or anything and I just did a ESC at which point I was greeted byt the st
[03:10] <Vivekananda> upid checking message. I used my phone to look online and then just copied over xorg.conf.failsafe --> xorg.conf and my cmp started by lost unity 3D. also how do I tackle these issues  1. unity 3D and nvidia graphics. my laptop is a lenovo T61 2.1 ghz
[03:10] <TJ-> albivion: That suggests the image on the USB device isn't EFI-compatible
[03:10] <skinkitten> thank you so much TJ- a week trying to print. you must know how I feel !
[03:10] <anon99999> How do I use LIRC in Ubuntu 12.04 with a device connected by usb that has an infrared led and infrared receiver attached?
[03:10] <TJ-> skinkitten: It's working correctly?
[03:11] <TJ-> skinkitten: you should add my PPA to your sources list, so that you can track updates properly
[03:11] <skinkitten> TJ-, margins are off. how do I add your PPA?
[03:12] <TJ-> skinkitten: See the section "Adding this PPA" at https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ppa
[03:12] <TJ-> skinkitten: maybe that's something glitsj16 and me can help you with another day :)
[03:12] <glitsj16> TJ-: skinkitten: builds are reported as pending in your PPA, I'll hold off the forum post untill everything is there .. great effort!
[03:12] <Vivekananda> This was my error http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[03:12] <TJ-> glitsj16: let's wait until the PPD issue is confirmed, we should be able to fix that
[03:13] <glitsj16> TJ-: sure thing
[03:14] <TJ-> skinkitten: Something you can do is figure out exactly (to the millimetre) how much each margin is off from the paper edge, and for which paper sizes and orientations
[03:15] <_doug_> So... this is frustrating. I have 3 displays plugged into an nvidia card. The ubuntu installer seems all three. I reboot and NONE of them work. I have to boot with one display plugged in, and then plug the other two in after boot. Also seeing this with Mint.
[03:15] <TJ-> skinkitten: The way I do that, is use a graphics program like inkscape to draw solid rectangles around the 4 sides overlapping the edge of the paper... when printed you can then measure the exact distance from edge of paper to the printable areas
[03:15] <Vivekananda> I found that I can purge nvidia and I would like to do it by -- sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-173 nvidia-current  and then reinstall
[03:16] <Vivekananda> I can use : sudo apt-get install nvidia-current but do I also got for nvidia-173 ?
[03:16] <skinkitten> TJ-, can you send me that file? as a gimp file? please?
[03:16] <skinkitten> I added your PPA TJ-
[03:16] <Xuisce> Vivekananda:  heya
[03:16] <Vivekananda> Xuisce: hey
[03:16] <TJ-> _doug_: so they all work when using the live environment (the open-source nouveau driver I guess), but not when you've installed the system and booted to that?
[03:16] <Vivekananda> why do you keep changing names ?
[03:16] <Xuisce> Vivekananda:  changing?
[03:16] <Xuisce> Vivekananda:  it was always like this
[03:17] <Xuisce> :)
[03:17] <TJ-> skinkitten: which file are you referring to?
[03:17] <Vivekananda> oo okay
[03:17] <TJ-> skinkitten:  the drawing for printing? You can create that yourself, as I described above.
[03:17] <Vivekananda> TJ-: any clues ?
[03:17] <_doug_> TJ-: I didn't try the live environment per see, but when I installed I had all three displays connected, and all seemed to work fine.
[03:17] <Vivekananda> of nvidia issues and getting ubuntu 3d back ?
[03:17] <skinkitten> TJ-, : reading
[03:18] <impossible> would ubuntu look and work terribly by completely disabling or removing compiz?
[03:18] <skinkitten> 4 rectangles, one for each corner, got it
[03:18] <TJ-> Vivekananda: I usually start by checking "/var/log/dmesg" to ensure the nvidia driver loaded correctly. Then I look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to seek clues as to why the X server drivers didn't behave
[03:19] <_doug_> TJ-: This occurs with both the default video drives and the one installed from the ubuntu additional device driver GUI thing. It also happens on Mint Linux as well.
[03:19] <Vivekananda> TJ-: okay lemme try those
[03:20] <_doug_> TJ-: i've run the ubuntu desktop prefences stuff. All three displays seem fine. I've also used nvidia-settings and again, everything shows up fine. Reboot (with all three displays connected). Blank screen.
[03:20] <TJ-> _doug_:  So you installed and it worked fine - that would be with the nouveau open-source nvidia device driver. That is the 'default', unless by default you mean the accelerated nvidia proprietary driver, which I'd have expected to do better than the nouveau driver :)
[03:20] <_doug_> boot with one display, and connect the other two, both come up straight away
[03:21] <TJ-> _doug_: silly question... i
[03:21] <_doug_> TJ-: 'NVIDIA binary Xorg driver kernel module and VDPUA library'
[03:21] <TJ-> _doug_: ... does the graphics card drive 4 displays?
[03:21] <_doug_> aka nvidia-304 version ubuntu 3.08.88-0ubunt8
[03:21] <_doug_> TJ-: It's got three outputs. :)
[03:21] <glitsj16> impossible: only the (default) unity is tied into compiz, if you don't *ever* plan on using that you should be fine without compiz .. but make sure you've installed and logged into an alternative DE before purging it
[03:22] <_doug_> display port, hdmi, dvi
[03:22] <TJ-> _doug_: OK, not 4? I was going to say, it sounds like you don't have a monitor connected to the primary output, which is what is driven at startup, before the X server starts the GUI
[03:22] <Vivekananda> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/9044178
[03:22] <Vivekananda> help me out a bit
[03:22] <TJ-> _doug_: OK, can you show us "/var/log/dmesg" ? You ought to be able to do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and give us the URL
[03:22] <_doug_> TJ-: nah. The card has 3 outputs, and I have all three connected. The primary display seems to be the DVI one. I have no idea why
[03:23] <ajoul> Where is the config files of my applications stored in Ubuntu?
[03:23] <TJ-> _doug_: I have 2 GPUs here driving 6 displays, never had that kind of issue
[03:23] <ajoul> I am trying to edit redshift.conf config file
[03:23] <_doug_> TJ-: lemme grab it's UP, and boot it again with three displays connected and see if I can even ssh in.  Check with "sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* "
[03:26] <ajoul> thx somsip, anyone else know where are the config files of my applications stored in Ubuntu?
[03:26] <impossible> glitsj16, thanks, does gnome 3 use compiz ?
[03:26] <TJ-> ajoul: the per-user configuration is in your user home directory, usually as (hidden) dot-files or inside dot-directories.
[03:27] <glitsj16> impossible: if you mean gnome-shell no, it uses mutter for compositing, not compiz
[03:27] <skinkitten> TJ-, what are acceptable margins? 8.5W x 11H
[03:28] <impossible> thats very nice, thanks again
[03:28] <ajoul> TJ- by going in my /home directory and hitting cd . (followed by tab) the only available files I see are ./ ../
[03:28] <Vivekananda> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/9044178 box 3. Also should I try the purge and reinstall ? or if not what should I do ?
[03:28] <Vivekananda> I want to get unity back !
[03:28] <glitsj16> impossible: you're welcome
[03:28] <_doug_> TJ- http://pastebin.com/SrHJ0gNp (it's mint now, not ubuntu... :) )
[03:28] <TJ-> skinkitten: I'm not sure, each printer differs, but here in Europe we mostly see 2cm margins all round on A4 paper.
[03:29] <FuuqUmiist> what are good apps for Ubuntu you can't live without?
[03:29] <_doug_> TJ: Well, I can confirm it's up. I can ssh into it. So, it's just a display issue
[03:29] <ajoul> How to display all hidden files?
[03:29] <jje> ls -la
[03:30] <FuuqUmiist> ajoul i think ctrl+h
[03:30] <ajoul> Where is the safest place to store porn in Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Vivekananda> brb
[03:31] <Vivekananda> restarting
[03:31] <TJ-> _doug_: I notice it is using the EFI framebuffer at boot-time. I've read there can be big problems with that, I think you may just have found one... can't confirm that, but that would be my suspicion. Try following up on that with searches, see what comes up
[03:31] <_doug_> TJ-: Kk
[03:32] <TJ-> _doug_: before you do that though, I'd highly recommend you upgrade the nvidia driver version to 331. If you haven't tried that already, of course
[03:32] <TJ-> _doug_: There's an Ubuntu PPA containing the latest drivers called xorg-edgers
[03:33] <_doug_> TJ-: k. Thanks.
[03:33] <TJ-> _doug_: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[03:34] <linuxuz3r_> hey guys
[03:34] <ajoul> hello my friend!
[03:34] <linuxuz3r_> hi ajoul
[03:34] <ajoul> How was your day Linxuz3r
[03:34] <_doug_> TJ-:  Try the EFI stuff first?
[03:34] <linuxuz3r_> well confusing somewhat
[03:34] <TJ-> _doug_: after following the "Add this PPA.." instructions, do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"
[03:34] <ajoul> tell me more
[03:34] <_doug_> TJ: Actually, is EFI secure boot?
[03:35] <linuxuz3r_> ajoul, what cpu do you use?
[03:35] <linuxuz3r_> do you prefer intel or amd?
[03:35] <ajoul> I use Intel, but I have no preference, it all comes down to the same
[03:35] <linuxuz3r_> this is not the place for it
[03:35] <TJ-> _doug_: I'd use nvidia-331 first... that might have the support you need... however, as that loads much later, I still think the EFI framebuffer could be the cause. I believe some nvidia video-BIOS can be updated to fix the issue, but I only came across a discussion on that in passing, so not read anything 'official' from Nvidia
[03:36] <linuxuz3r_> ok alot of people prefer intel
[03:36] <TJ-> _doug_: Secure-boot is one feature of UEFI
[03:36] <linuxuz3r_> do you wanna join ubuntu offtopic
[03:36] <ajoul> sure mate
[03:36] <linuxuz3r_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <_doug_> TJ: K. Wasn't sure if that was relevant. I had secure boot enabled but just disabled it because I was gonna try putting Windows 7 on there and it bitched, so I dsiabled secure boot. Up until the very last boot that was enabled.
[03:38] <TJ-> _doug_: If it works with SB off, then that would suggest an unsigned module issue. That is worth checking for.
[03:38] <_doug_> TJ-: It doesn't work with either
[03:38] <TJ-> _doug_: The nvidia modules aren't signed, but so far as I have seen, the kernel just grumbles in the log about that, it doesn't refuse to load the driver
[03:39] <_doug_> TJ: this was windows. doesn't matter. not relevant i think
[03:39] <TJ-> _doug_: which video card is it? "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
[03:39] <Guest7563> Tj i am basketball
[03:39] <_doug_> TJ-:  Nvidia GeForce GTX 645 OEM
[03:39] <Guest7563> I have a error message error file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[03:39]  * TJ- is going to bed, it's almost 4am!
[03:39] <Guest7563> And i cant boot
[03:39] <_doug_> eeek
[03:39] <Guest7563> I dont have a live disk
[03:40] <TJ-> _doug_: !!
[03:41] <glitsj16> TJ-: have a good stretch, you've did more than a days work in here today, dreamzzz
[03:41] <TJ-> _doug_: just read the changelog for nvidia-drivers which says "* New upstream beta 319.12 (2013-04-09).   - Added initial support for restoration of efifb consoles on UEFI systems where the primary display is driven over VGA or TMDS (e.g. DVI, HDMI, or LVDS)."
[03:42] <JimX> Hello. I;m trying to compile msbksrc. Can someone please take a look and tell me what the problem is? I'm running Ubuntu x64. Thank you . http://pastie.org/8740799
[03:42] <TJ-> glitsj16: Thanks... got to be up by 7am, on a farm here, things to do at dawn :)
[03:42] <TJ-> _doug_: So... install the nvidia-331 driver and hope ;)
[03:42] <daftykins> TJ-: what kind of farm?
[03:42] <TJ-> daftykins: arable, ~1200 acres, but with some townie's horses stabled
[03:43] <Guest7563> TJ- ^^^^
[03:43] <glitsj16> TJ-: :) nice, sort off like a farm here too, i'll check up on skinkitten's progress and we'll take it up again tomorrow
[03:43] <daftykins> TJ-: interesting :)
[03:44] <Guest7563> error file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[03:44] <Vivekananda> okay
[03:44] <Vivekananda> back
[03:44] <Vivekananda> so anyone any clues on how to go about it
[03:44] <Guest7563> Anyone
[03:44] <TJ-> glitsj16: good therapy, gets me away from the computers! Glad we got skinkitten sorted anyhow. g'night.
[03:44] <Vivekananda> I am going to purge two nvidia drivers and replace but dont know how to get ubuntu unity 3d
[03:45] <GPHemsley> I recently installed what I thought were supplementary fonts (for support for things like additional scripts), but now all my menus and things are using an ugly serif font. How do I reset the default font used by Ubuntu/Unity?
[03:46] <glitsj16> Guest7563: what does: ls -lh /boot/grub/i386-pc .. show? you're probably missing essential parts of grub
[03:46] <viper_67> 13.10 Saucy. Problem: Right click usb drive , select option format. Does nothing. Attempted fix: open terminal . command. sudo natilus , wash rinse repeat no results
[03:50] <viper_67> any ideas guys?
[03:50] <Guest7563> Glit where do i run that
[03:50] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: you can use gnome-tweak-tool to set up fonts again .. you also might need to refresh your font caches if you didn't do that yet
[03:51] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: How do I refresh the font caches? (And what is the connection between Unity and Gnome? I'm still confused about that...)
[03:51] <glitsj16> Guest7563: open a terminal window .. ctrl+alt+t and run it there
[03:51] <basketball> glitsj16:
[03:51] <basketball> glitsj16: i am guest
[03:51] <basketball> how do i open the terminal if i cant boot
[03:51] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: sudo fc-cache -f -v will refresh all caches
[03:52] <JimX> Anyone know a utility tool which can restore .mtf files? Or can anyone take a look here http://pastie.org/8740799 and tell me what the problem is? thank you
[03:52] <glitsj16> basketball: sorry, didn't realise that
[03:52] <jasef> !info libsexy
[03:52] <jasef> ... I just saw that showing up in my upgrade O_o
[03:53] <jasef> Oh, got the name wrong.
[03:53] <basketball> glitsj16:  so what can i do
[03:54] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: GNOME is confusingly also the toolkit that is used in unity, GTK (gnome tool kit) is less confusing and doesn't refer to gnome-shell
[03:54] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: Hmm, well, it definitely seems like that need to be done, as there were a lot of new contents, but it doesn't appear to have fixed the problem
[03:54] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: you'll need to install gnome-tweak-tool and set up fonts again
[03:55] <glitsj16> basketball: are you on a liveCD now?
[03:55] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: Why is that the case? Seems less than ideal.
[03:55] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: not sure, how did you install those new fonts?
[03:55] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: aptitude
[03:56] <basketball> glitsj16:  i dont have a live cd
[03:56] <GPHemsley> I also seem to be hitting an NVIDIA driver bug that causes windows and things to go completely black
[03:56] <GPHemsley> which is new
[03:56] <foldingcookie> hi, is the Ubuntu One client for Windows open-source?
[03:57] <foldingcookie> I can't find any links to source code for it, just a binary blob installer
[03:57] <willwh>  is the linux client open source?
[03:57] <willwh> (I don't use it)
[03:57] <basketball> glitsj16:  i am in grub rescue are there commands i can type there
[03:57] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: i really don't know what happens without some detailed logs, maybe /var/log/syslog offers clues as to what happened
[03:58] <glitsj16> basketball: not to install missing packages no, you would need to reboot to a recovery shell if you can get there
[03:58] <basketball> what commads do i type
[03:58] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: What am I looking for in there?
[03:59] <glitsj16> basketball: my guess would be: apt-get install grub-pc-bin, as that is the package that holds those grub mod files
[04:00] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: anything related to fonts or could be clues in your ~/.xsession-errors too
[04:01] <foldingcookie> willwh: ah, I guess it's based on the same Qt source as the Linux one
[04:01] <FireHack> t
[04:01] <FireHack> hello
[04:01] <foldingcookie> I don't know why there wouldn't be any links to the repo where development happens from the page where you get the program
[04:01] <willwh> foldingcookie: ah, so the linux source is avail? like I said, I don't use it
[04:01] <foldingcookie> yes
[04:01] <willwh> it does seem a little odd
[04:02] <foldingcookie> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-client/trunk/files
[04:02] <willwh> I assume it'd be pure c++
[04:02] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: Hmm... no timestamps :/
[04:02] <foldingcookie> python, I believe
[04:02] <willwh> pyqt?
[04:02] <willwh> ;o
[04:02] <foldingcookie> yeah
[04:02] <willwh> I havent done much with qt, although am looking at it for my next project
[04:02] <glitsj16> basketball: if you reboot into recovery, you'll be presented with a menu, make sure you choose the item mentioning networking active or similar wording, you'll probably need that to get the package installed
[04:03] <foldingcookie> I'd like a more streamlined (CLI) UI, which is why I was looking... I guess I'll keep looking
[04:03] <foldingcookie> thanks anyway
[04:03] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: Also, it's mostly just errors about  at-spi2-registryd respawning too fast. It's a pretty short file.
[04:03] <packetscaper> I am trying to setup an RSA authentication setup using openssl
[04:03] <willwh> foldingcookie: ah; I use grive mostly (but I'm using google apps for business)
[04:04] <basketball> glitsj16:  i found a live disk
[04:04] <packetscaper> I have already made the CA server, and server certificate. I also have made the pksc12 certificate. I also need to make a client certificate as well. Does the pksc12 include the root CA and client certificate too ?
[04:05] <packetscaper> Or I will have to make a separate client certificate sign it by the root CA and then import both the pksc12 and the client certificate. I am trying to setup strongswan server
[04:05] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: Oh, also, I already have unity-tweak-tool; I don't think gnome- works for Unity
[04:06] <glitsj16> basketball: okay, but that way is a bit more complicated than trying recovery mode, you'd need to look into chroot to get at your installed partition
[04:07] <glitsj16> GPHemsley: it does, but unity-tweak-tool has the same font settings pane iirc
[04:07] <basketball> ok glitsj16  you are the boss tell me exactly what to do
[04:07] <DrAdam> any talkers here?
[04:07] <glitsj16> basketball: try the recovery mode first, if that turns out badly we can do the chroot routine
[04:08] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: Yeah, but it doesn't seem to work, either.
[04:08] <jak2000> apache question: ServerName midomain.com and ServerAlias www.midomain.com   its correct?
[04:08] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: The font problem affects e.g. System Settings and the Document Viewer drop-down menus
[04:09] <GPHemsley> glitsj16: But not the Terminal monospace font or application title bars
[04:11] <jasef> Ugh. unity crashed and now I just have to wait for the upgrade to finish to get my panels back.
[04:11] <viper_67> does anyone know why right click format drive option doesn't work ubunty 13.10 unity
[04:12] <wcmckee> use disk managment
[04:13] <viper_67> wcmckee, well i know  i could do that, or use gparted. but the format option allows use of writting one's or zeros to disk so that recovry wouldn't work
[04:15] <viper_67> tried sudo natilus and still can't use that function.  i could use testdisk for the same purpose but would be great having the right click option
[04:24] <Cannon4TI> Hello
[04:25] <Cannon4TI> I wish to use the ls command and have it display file details except for the group and owner name
[04:25] <Cannon4TI> is this possible?
[04:25] <Cannon4TI> I have tried doing ls -l but that displays the group and owner name
[04:27] <basketball> with 13.04 what is the username and password on the livecd
[04:28] <hewhomust_> there is none
[04:30] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about full-screen windows on a multi-viewport desktop. If I have, e.g., a full-screen youtube video, then regardless of whether I use NVidia or Nouveau drivers, if I switch to a new viewport, that window comes out of full screen, so when I return to it or see it in the preview pane, it is the browser page with a little framed video window.Is there anything I can do?
[04:31] <Cannon4TI> NvmI have found it
[04:34] <viper_67> basketball,  username  maybe root , pass toor if there was one for some reason. Pretty much a standard for most live distros
[04:34] <DerfNerd> Hi, I know I'll win the award for most vague, open-ended question of the evening, BUT- I'm using rsync (on windows) to send files to my ubuntu server, and it averages 5-20K/sec over my LAN. Where can I start troubleshooting this speed issue?
[04:35] <basketball> ill try thanks viper_67
[04:39] <viper_67> basketball, let me know if it work buddy
[04:43] <durabook> I have tried installing 13.10, but I all I keep seeing is lines across my computer with an error, hardware doesn't support Unity. What are my options here?
[04:44] <viper_67> durabook, did you do an install with the optional extras and udates ?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> durabook, don't use unity.  kubuntu/xubuntu/gnomeubuntu
[04:44] <basketball> !chroot
[04:45] <sakter12> does anyone know of anyway to get  autodesk maya working on linux?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !blender|sakter12,
[04:46] <sakter12> i use blender a lot, was wondering specifically about maya, has to with specific python scripting FOR maya
[04:47] <sakter12> *to do
[04:47] <durabook> cfhowlett, I just chose the 64-bit download from the website, I didn't see an GNOME only option.
[04:48] <cfhowlett> durabook, wait 1 -
[04:48] <cfhowlett> durabook, ubuntugnome.org    - it's an official derivative
[04:49] <cfhowlett> official *flavor* that is
[04:49] <durabook> cfhowlett, And Kubuntu doesn't have unity at all?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> durabook, nope.  kde desktop environment + ubuntu = kubuntu
[04:49] <viper_67> durabook,  if you didn't install the third party software which i think has vid drivers that may be an issue
[04:50] <durabook> viper_67, I did not install the 3rd party software.
[04:50] <trisquel> hi
[04:50] <durabook> viper_67, You think I should try that?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> trisquel, greetings
[04:51] <trisquel> i checked san-project.org and my scanner has full support but is not detected. SENSYS MF3010 USB Ethernet 0x04a9/0x2759 Complete All resolutions supported (up to 600DPI)  pixma (0.17.4)  sane-pixma
[04:51] <DonkeyHotei> i'm trying to netinstall saucy on an x86 tablet so that i can then apt-get install ubuntu-touch, but the net installer won't see the keyboard i plugged into usb so i can't use it. any ideas?
[04:51] <durabook> viper_67, But if my computer hardware doesn't support Unity, why would installing 3rd party software matter?
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !touch|DonkeyHotei,
[04:52] <cfhowlett> DonkeyHotei, see the other channel
[04:52] <DonkeyHotei> cfhowlett: no one there
[04:52] <DonkeyHotei> also, they don't support x86
[04:52] <viper_67> durabook, it might be with your display drivers and " additional drivers" option provides propriety drives for sound and display
[04:53] <unstable> I use an external monitor with my laptop periodically. Often when this happens a window willi 'disappear'. Right now I can't find sublime. If I hit alt + tab, I can see the sublime icon.. when I select it, nothing shows up.
[04:53] <unstable> How can I get sublime to come to the foreground of my screen?
[04:54] <trisquel> cfhowlett:  i checked san-project.org and my scanner has full support but is not detected. SENSYS MF3010 USB Ethernet 0x04a9/0x2759 Complete All resolutions supported (up to 600DPI)  pixma (0.17.4)  sane-pixma
[04:54] <viper_67> unity is just a gnome shell and you could try reinstalling it
[04:54] <cfhowlett> trisquel, I saw.  Sadly, I can't advise ...
[04:54] <trisquel> cfhowlett: ok..
[04:54] <DonkeyHotei> does the netinstaller just not support usb keyboards?
[04:54] <unstable> viper_67: me?
[04:55] <cfhowlett> durabook, did you try nomodeset?
[04:55] <viper_67> unstable, sorry no, meant for durabook
[04:55] <durabook> cfhowlett, No.
[04:55] <durabook> cfhowlett,  I am installing from a USB flash drive..
[04:55] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|durabook, eh - ok
[04:55] <durabook> cfhowlett, Everything appears to go great, click restart...then Hardware doesn't support Unity error.
[04:56] <viper_67> durabook, is the installation complete and can you access the internet?
[04:57] <durabook> viper_67, Yes, the installation is completed, the internet is accessed, just after I restart, weird lines on the screen.
[04:58] <durabook> viper_67, I have installed Ubuntu on several computers, and I have not encountered this problem until now.
[04:58] <viper_67> durabook, so after login are the lines present on your desktop?
[04:58] <durabook> viper_67, I never make it to the login screen after restarting from the installation.
[04:59] <viper_67> can you hit ctl+alt+f1 to get terminal and login?
[04:59] <durabook> viper_67, No, computer is completely froze.
[05:00] <viper_67> durabook, are you dual booting ? from grub you could launch recovery with networking
[05:00] <cfhowlett> durabook, if you've already got the install, you can add lxde/kde/xfce4 and use that desktop environment instead of unity.   quite easy.
[05:00] <viper_67> cfhowlett, not if it freezes to from the start
[05:00] <durabook> cfhowlett, When the install is complete it says must be restarted...you know?
[05:01] <durabook> cfhowlett, I click restart.  The computer restarts.  After about 1 minute, I see several diagnonal lines, with Hardware doesn't support Unity.
[05:01] <basketball> on live disk there is no install button next to programs in software center
[05:01] <cfhowlett> durabook, right.  sorry for bad intel.
[05:01] <cfhowlett> durabook, boot to the command line
[05:02] <durabook> cfhowlett, I don't know how to boot to the command line.  I only have one option there.  Click to restart.
[05:03] <viper_67> durabook, hold shift and reboot after bios screen
[05:03] <basketball> viper_67:  on live disk there is no install button next to programs in software center
[05:03] <cfhowlett> durabook, ok according my google: reboot & hold down shift button.  bootloader should appear.  boot to root shell prompt
[05:04] <cfhowlett> or perhaps repeatedly tap the shift key
[05:04] <unstable> Is there a window manager channel for ubuntu?
[05:04] <viper_67> durabook, it's in the advance options
[05:04] <viper_67> basketball, no install button to install what?
[05:04] <viper_67> basketball, ubuntu or a package
[05:04] <basketball> xchat
[05:05] <unstable> Has anyone had the behavior where they alt tab to an application, and it doesn't show after they select it?
[05:05] <unstable> Or even when I open the application from the icon/launcher, it doesn't show.
[05:05] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer.
[05:05] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> unstable, I think there's one for nautilus ...
[05:06] <mojtaba> I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[05:06] <trisquel>  am following this but i get stuck at the sane-find-scanner section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SANE%20-%20Installing%20a%20scanner%20that%20isn%27t%20auto-detected
[05:06] <basketball_> glitsj16, hey
[05:07] <viper_67> basketball,  open terminal " ctl+alt+t " ... type command " sudo apt-get install xchat 2.8.8-7.1ubuntu2 " with no quotes and you can copy and past
[05:07] <glitsj16> basketball_: yup?
[05:07] <viper_67> basketball, type password and hit enter , xchat should install from terminal/
[05:08] <unstable> cfhowlett: Do you know how to force an application to show?
[05:08] <viper_67> basketball_,  sorry " sudo apt-get install xchat " is the correct command
[05:09] <cfhowlett> unstable, sorry, I'm on xubuntu so I'm not fully up on the unity/ubuntu side of things
[05:10] <viper_67> basketball_, to launch you can hit dash xchat
[05:14] <jdwwatts> off loaded windows for ubuntu happy now
[05:15] <Abhijit> hi. i am getting WARN: /lib/ufw is group writable! error for ufw status. is this serious?
[05:15] <Abhijit> how do I remove this warning.
[05:16] <Xuisce> Abhijit:  hi
[05:16] <viper_67> basketball, did you get xchat installed?
[05:17] <Abhijit> Xuisce, hello. I am getting WARN: /lib/ufw is group writable! error for ufw status.
[05:17] <basketball> using sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[05:17] <Abhijit> is this serious?
[05:17] <loucal> I've been pretty stumped on this for a while and tonight I decided to try to track down the answer to no avail.  I use fluxbox without a display manager and I get those skinny orange scrollbars that you need to hover over just right to get the 'handle' to drag.  Its like my qt themes are missing the scrollbars, but if I run a gui app as root with sudo, they have the normal qt-styled scrollbars that I want.  I am so confused I have read a ton
[05:17] <loucal> stuff and I realize fluxbox shouldn't be controlling the scrollbars so I'm just wondering what I'm missing.
[05:19] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[05:20] <viper_67> basketball, that should work
[05:20] <basketball> it is i am basketball_
[05:21] <viper_67> basketball_, basketball , glad i could help
[05:21] <jdwwatts> i woner if this is hitched uu one acountp to my ubunt
[05:21] <jdwwatts> whoa
[05:21] <basketball> thajks\
[05:27] <viper_67> basketball_, no problem
[05:33] <loucal> in case anyone was wondering I finally solved my own problem, they are a unity feature called overlay scrollbars
[05:35] <basketball_> bazhang,  can you help me real quick in pm
[05:35] <bazhang> ask in channel basketball_ if someone knows, they will answer
[05:36] <basketball_> chroot /mnt/chroot /bin/bash
 chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory
[05:37] <Bitwise> Is there a channel here for wine?
[05:37] <basketball_> #wine-hq
[05:38] <Bitwise> It's empty.
[05:38] <basketball_> #wine
[05:38] <bazhang> it's @winehq
[05:38] <bazhang> # not @
[05:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !wine|Bitwise,
[05:39] <Bitwise> Thanks.
[05:40] <basketballl> glit
[05:40] <basketballl> sorry
[05:42] <basketballl> shoot did gilit leabe
[05:43] <rileyvrh> is there something about ubuntu that either doesnt allow for ./configure and make after unpacking a .gz file to install .. or ami just retard and theres something i havbent installed yet
[05:43] <rww> rileyvrh: install the build-essential package if you didn't already, that should get you started
[05:44] <rileyvrh> hmm
[05:44] <basketball> glitsj16 did you leave
[05:48] <basketball> glitsj16
[05:48] <basketball> bazhang: error file /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod not found entering recovery mode
[05:50] <MrSde> someone?
[05:50] <cfhowlett> !details|MrSde,
[05:51] <MrSde> how can i disable showing window contents while moving a window? also the same while resizing
[05:52] <MrSde> version lts 12.04
[05:53] <willwh> I don't think you can?
[05:53] <willwh> and why would you want to do that?
[05:53] <willwh> I'm curious
[05:54] <durabook> cfhowlett, Okay, I have made it to the login screen.  But I see no way of just booting into GNOME only.  I have held Shift down, I see advanced options.  It gives me 2 different kernel versions but thats it.
[05:55] <MrSde> i think i was clear, i want to disable the showing of window contents while moving the window in ubuntu 12.04 lts, there isn't anything else to add
[05:55] <Guest7563> Glit
[05:55] <MrSde> cmon 1500 people here someone must know where is the setting
[05:57] <MrSde> x11rdp is hanging sometimes
[05:57] <MrSde> while moving windows and system needs restart for x11rdp to work again
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !patience|MrSde,
[05:58] <cfhowlett> durabook, well, you have to actually have INSTALLED gnome ---
[05:58] <cfhowlett> durabook, from command line: sudo apt-get install gnome
[05:58] <viper_67> willwh, either window render issue for trying to draw to much while moving it or hide porn till it can be closed so it appears just moving windows around lol
[05:59] <Abhijit_> MrSde, you mean you dont want to show the window itself while you move it with mouse?
[06:00] <Guest7563> Viper (Guest7563) I have a error message error file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[06:00] <viper_67> Abhijit_, I belive he wants the contents to disapper while window is in motion
[06:00] <durabook> cfhowlett, ok let me try that
[06:00] <MrSde> yes, in windows the setting is pretty clear, i want to just move the window without showing its contents constantly while moving
[06:01] <krilcovsseann> Is ubuntu set up for secure boot?
[06:01] <Abhijit_> !secureboot
[06:01] <krilcovsseann> !secureboot
[06:01] <MrSde> !secureboot
[06:02] <Abhijit_> krilcovsseann, yes. canonical has keys for using ubuntu on those seure bioses
[06:02] <krilcovsseann> Is a secure/dual boot system possible? With windows 8 and ubuntu?
[06:02] <Abhijit_> yes
[06:02] <durabook> cfhowlett, Says "sudo" command not found
[06:03] <krilcovsseann> Thanks, Abhijit.  Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[06:03] <willwh> durabook: try lubuntu, or xubuntu
[06:03] <willwh> on lower powered machines
[06:04] <viper_67> Guest7563, I found this, I'm not sure if these steps will fix your issue. but the same problem as you
[06:04] <durabook> willwh, Not sure what the issue is here, i have 3gb RAM, 64-bit, that was running Windows 7 perfect, but it can't run ubuntu 13.10, odd.
[06:04] <MrSde> it's surprising that a so simple setting isn't implemented
[06:04] <viper_67> Guest7563, http://askubuntu.com/questions/386467/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found-in-ubuntu-13-10
[06:06] <casimir> hi there. i'm n00b. I install kali linux tools on my raring ringtail.when i try to start msfconsole.it prints out: rake-10.0.3 missing. please help or tell me the right chan
[06:06] <bazhang> MrSde, this for a remote desktop session?
[06:07] <artistfood> kjbkjbkjbkjknkjbkjb
[06:07] <MrSde> @bazhang yes, it hangs randomly while moving a window.
[06:07] <willwh> MrSde: what are you using for an rdp client? remmina works very well for me for vnc and windows rdp :)
[06:07] <viper_67> Guest7563, i also found this article , http://askubuntu.com/questions/266429/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found
[06:07] <Xuisce> artistfood: !emergency
[06:07] <bazhang> MrSde, why do you need that setting
[06:07] <cfhowlett> durabook, sudo apt-get install gnome
[06:07] <artistfood> Xuisce: kinda
[06:07] <Xuisce> artistfood: what's wrong ?
[06:08] <durabook> cfhowlett, That does not work.  Command sudo not found.
[06:08] <artistfood> nothing.comp froze
[06:08] <durabook> cfhowlett, I have a deal there that says Grub>
[06:08] <MrSde> @willwh I just used x11rdp-o-matic tool and worked well except from this
[06:08] <artistfood> Xuisce: have you used webchat?
[06:08] <Xuisce> artistfood: yes why ?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> durabook, ah, stop!  you are not logged in to command line!  reboot, hit shift/enter to get the grub bootloader options.  choose "root"
[06:09] <artistfood> Xuisce: well on firefox i cant get the dialog at the bottom to show up so i cant talk
[06:09] <willwh> MrSde: ok, well, I just the native remote functionality in ubuntu to allow remote access, or set up RDP in windows - then connecting to either, I use remmina
[06:09] <durabook> cfhowlett, ok
[06:09] <willwh> MrSde: you should give it a shot
[06:09] <Xuisce> artistfood: oh get a real client
[06:09] <Xuisce> Xchat should do
[06:09] <durabook> cfhowlett, hit shift+enter at the login screen?
[06:10] <artistfood> Xuisce: nahh i prefer browsers
[06:10] <cfhowlett> durabook, it's shift OR enter
[06:10] <Xuisce> artistfood: oh
[06:10] <durabook> cfhowlett, When?
[06:10] <durabook> cfhowlett, I am holding shift down after I reboot now..
[06:10] <cfhowlett> durabook, reboot.  after power on selt test hit the enter key
[06:10] <cfhowlett> or the shift key
[06:10] <MrSde> i have already set up 2 cs servers and don't want to touch anything because it may break the whole thing, i just want this simple setting that is so simply accesible on windows
[06:10] <cfhowlett> !commandline
[06:11] <durabook> cfhowlett, Okay. done.
[06:11] <artistfood> Xuisce: it was working 2 days ago
[06:11] <Xuisce> Ok
[06:11] <willwh> MrSde: in 12.04 I don't think you can do that
[06:11] <durabook> cfhowlett, Then I have to hit 'c' for the command line.
[06:11] <MrSde> isn't there any desktop effects control panel somewhere?
[06:11] <willwh> install a vnc client on windows?
[06:11] <willwh> in unity? not really
[06:11] <cfhowlett> durabook, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904347&p=11586729#post11586729
[06:11] <willwh> is 12.04 unity? I forget
[06:12] <MrSde> -.- so simple yet not implemented
[06:12] <cfhowlett> durabook, or this method
[06:12] <cfhowlett> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904347&p=11586730#post11586730
[06:13] <willwh> MrSde: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39667/how-do-i-file-feature-request-bugs-on-launchpad
[06:13] <viky> hello
[06:13] <MrSde> while I searched i found something about older ubuntu releases, i wonder why this got removed
[06:13] <artistfood> now its working after i changed the character encoding. thats odd since i havent played with it
[06:14] <artistfood> Xuisce: well thanks :)
[06:14] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[06:14] <artistfood> durabook: are you on mandrake?
[06:14] <viky> anyone can help?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !ask|viky,
[06:15] <viky> im using ubuntu and want to disable all clients usb port ...is any tool for it ?
[06:16] <MrSde> I wish valve improved the hlds sometime so I didn't have to mess with unix like systems
[06:16] <viky> ?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !ports
[06:17] <durabook> cfhowlett, okay,  I have held down shift.  here are my options Ubuntu | Advanced options for Ubuntu | Memory Test (memtest86+) | Memory Test (memtest +86, serial console 115200)
[06:17] <cfhowlett> durabook, advanced options should have command line
[06:18] <viky> script is not working
[06:18] <viky> is any utility or tool for it ?
[06:18] <durabook> When I choose Advanced Options here are my options...Ubuntu, with Linux 3.11.0-12-generic | Ubuntu, with Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-generic (recovery mode) | Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic | Ubutntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic (recovery mode)
[06:19] <she_dyed> did it give error message, 'not working' doesn't help a lot
[06:19] <cfhowlett> durabook, recovery mode
[06:19] <viper_67> viky, to disable usb ports so no one can use them open a terminal ctl+alt+t and enter this command: sudo echo "blacklist usb-storage" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.con
[06:19] <casimir> trying to start metasploit but it prints out "rake 10-0.3 missing". hellllllllp
[06:19] <somsip> casimir: what version of ubuntu?
[06:20] <viky> 12.4
[06:20] <casimir> 13.04
[06:20] <viper_67> viky, reference this article http://itsfoss.com/how-to-disable-usb-ports-in-ubuntu/
[06:20] <viky> i tried it but after rebot it comes to it previous state
[06:20] <somsip> !13.04 | casimir
[06:21] <casimir> raring ringtail
[06:21] <somsip> casimir: so you may be best to update to 13.10
[06:21] <viky> i had tried that script viper
[06:21] <durabook> cfhowlett, okay when I choose drop to root shell prompt, and type sudo apt-get install gnome I get this | W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock | E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[06:21] <cfhowlett> durabook, wait 1
[06:22] <viper_67> viky, hmm did you check blacklist config to make sure the line was added correctly ?
[06:22] <viky> it crashes always after sometime
[06:22] <enigmabomb> Hello. I added this PPA to my Ubuntu 12.04 installation. I did apt-get update apt-get upgrade and it's failing on the MySQL upgrade. It asks me to set the passwords then says, "Unable to set password for the MySQL "root" user"
[06:22] <viky> yes i did
[06:22] <viky> i tried all the scripts
[06:22] <enigmabomb> Sorry, this PPA: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[06:23] <casimir> do you think that is really the problem?
[06:23] <viper_67> viky, have you tried booting into your bios setup and seeing if there is an option to disable usb in it?>
[06:23] <viky> yes @casimir
[06:23] <durabook> this problem is giving me a headache.
[06:23] <durabook> heh
[06:23] <somsip> casimir: Quite possibly. You're using an unsupported version of ubuntu. Only quite recently, but stil best to upgrade so you know you are getting suported packages
[06:24] <cfhowlett> durabook, what;s the output of this command: ps aux - | grep apt | grep -v 'grep'
[06:24] <somsip> enigmabomb: ondrej main PPA for php5 upgrades installs loads of other new stuff. It's not something we can support here. Raise an issue on the PPA homepage
[06:24] <casimir> thanks i'll try!
[06:24] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[06:24] <enigmabomb> Thanks Somsip
[06:25] <viky> yes i tried but in some bios it give all port enable and disable option but in some bios it just gives enable all and diasable all ...@viper
[06:25] <somsip> enigmabomb: or...you can ppa-purge the one you just added, and try... I think it's ondrej/php5-oldstable. That only installs php5.4 and not all of the other stuff
[06:25] <durabook> cfhowlettm, It says error : garbage option
[06:25] <somsip> enigmabomb: but all usage of PPAs is at your own risk
[06:25] <enigmabomb> Oh perfect. Thats what I need to do, just go back and have normal packages. I hate that i used the PPA
[06:26] <viky> viper are you there ?
[06:26] <somsip> enigmabomb: ah yes - it's referenced on that webpage.
[06:26] <cfhowlett> durabook, http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[06:26] <somsip> !ppa-purge | enigmabomb
[06:26] <viper_67> viky, yes, if you type my name and hit tab it will auto complete and notify me i have a message
[06:27] <durabook> oh geez
[06:27] <casimir> tried to join a chan. it print "you need to identified to the services" what should i do?
[06:27] <somsip> !register | casimir
[06:27] <viper_67> viky,  hmm I found a more extensive guide if you would like to take a look. http://askubuntu.com/questions/153964/how-do-i-prevent-standard-users-from-using-the-usb-ports
[06:28] <viky> viper_67:
[06:28] <casimir> ubottu: i tried to join #metasploit
[06:29] <viky> viper can i have ur e-mail id ?
[06:29] <durabook> yea,when trying to do a sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock i get "rm: cannot remove 'var/lib/dpkg/lock': Read-only file system
[06:29] <enigmabomb> @somsip When I try to sudo apt-get install ppa-purge it starts running the mysql-server config script and fails. Any pointers?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> durabook, reboot and try again.  hopefully that'll kill the lock process
[06:29] <viper_67> viky, sorry I don't give out email , but that last page should yield requested result
[06:30] <casimir> i tried to join #metasploit
[06:30] <mojtaba> anybody with VNC experience?
[06:31] <somsip> enigmabomb: avoid the @ as it doesn't highlight in IRC clients. I don't have an answer for you though. apt-get must be trying to tidy up the incomplete previous install, but not sure how to get round that.
[06:32] <enigmabomb> somsip: Ok I'll see what I can figure out. thanks for the ppa pointer
[06:32] <durabook> cfhowlett, Same error.  Maybe Ubuntu just doesn't want to run on this thing.
[06:32] <EsoRotica_> enigmabomb: Maybe sudo dpkg --configure -a  ?
[06:32] <Bray90820> What does "history -c" do
[06:32] <somsip> Bray90820: clears it
[06:33] <Bray90820> Thank you
[06:33] <viky> anyone thr ?
[06:33] <viky> who can help me ,...
[06:34] <EsoRotica_> mojtaba: what is the problem?
[06:34] <somsip> enigmabomb: web advice seems to be to remove the offending package. But at this stage, you might not want to remove your how mysql install....
[06:34] <somsip> s/how/whole
[06:34] <enigmabomb> I did a sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa: and removed it
[06:34] <somsip> enigmabomb: cool
[06:35] <viper_67> viky, did you see the last page I sent you?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> durabook, http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem    use the sudo rm command in this article
[06:36] <viky> its not working man ,..
[06:36] <viky> i tired it
[06:36] <viky> i tired it before
[06:38] <EsoRotica_> viky: are they usb3 ports by chance?
[06:38] <viper_67> somsip, hey how are you doing today?
[06:39] <somsip> viper_67: if you know me you know I don't do casual chat on here.
[06:39] <somsip> viper_67: you know, hi and everything, but far too busy...
[06:40] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[06:40] <EsoRotica_> mojtaba: are you connecting from an address within the network?
[06:40] <viper_67> somsip, I know just making sure your active, viky  is trying to disable her usb ports on 12.04 and editing blacklist.config isn't working . do you know of another way to kill all ports so no one can use usb?
[06:41] <mojtaba> EsoRotica_: Yes I am in the LAN
[06:41] <durabook> cfhowlett, It seems now that my computer isn't connected to wi-fi when using just the command prompt.
[06:41] <somsip> viper_67: if I can and want to help, I would. modules are not something I know about, so I'm leaving it to others who know
[06:42] <dwarder> i'm trying to install specific version of mysql with this command 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5=5.5.32-0ubuntu7' but i got this error
[06:42] <dwarder> mysql-server-5.5 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.32-0ubuntu7) but 5.5.35-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[06:42] <dwarder> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:42] <dwarder> how do i fix it?
[06:42] <dwarder> i want this version
[06:42] <viper_67> somsip, ok , and thanks again for your help the other day. I've got my system to where it needs to be and running smooth
[06:42] <somsip> viper_67: I don't remember, but great :)
[06:42] <jumnel> When I play dvds, there is an awful glowing where the light hits the actors. Can anyone help?
[06:43] <mojtaba> EsoRotica_: Do you know what should I do?
[06:43] <geirha> dwarder: you have to specify that version for mysql-server-core too
[06:43] <EsoRotica_> mojtaba: Personally I use x11vnc. I'm looking for tightvncserver information now.
[06:44] <viper_67> thats ok to :)
[06:44] <geirha> dwarder: i.e.  sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5=5.5.32-0ubuntu7 mysql-server-core-5.5=5.5.32-0ubuntu7
[06:44] <mojtaba> EsoRotica_: Thank you very much.
[06:44] <geirha> dwarder: which may further complain about other packages, so you'll have to keep adding those until it accepts it
[06:46] <dwarder> geirha: your command works, thank you
[06:47] <durabook> I can't use apt-get from the command line because my wifi isn't connected.
[06:47] <dwarder> geirha: i think i need to add mysql-client package also ....
[06:47] <dwarder> geirha: ahh, it installs it with the core
[06:48] <geirha> dwarder: the client version probably doesn't have to match exactly with the server version, so the client is probably of the newer version
[06:49] <ubuntu> hi i need help configuring a scanner
[06:49] <leeyaa> hello
[06:50] <Guest15524> leeyaa, hi
[06:50] <durabook> I never knew ubuntu could be so hard to get going.
[06:50] <viper_67> durabook, did you get gnome installed?
[06:50] <leeyaa> what could be the reason for ubuntu to change its ip address. i have configured it as static. this is my config http://bpaste.net/show/H63GV6DRfOk4lVmmD8fI/
[06:50] <nylar> anyone try that andonstar usb microscope on ubuntu yet?
[06:51] <durabook> viper_67, I cannot, because my wi-fi is not connected at the command prompt.
[06:52] <viky> i hav 2 dvr device ... one is in other cabin and one is in my cabin ... the dvr in the other cabin gets a normal ping and works normally but the dvr in my cabin dosn't get ping normally and so no visual output ... it hought thr problem wid thr dvr so i changed both but still same prob ... and checked all thinks the IP,DNS and all stuff but still having the same problem :(
[06:53] <Guest15524> i am running ubuntu 13.10
[06:53] <viper_67> does anyone know if you can connect to wifi from tty1 console ?
[06:55] <Guest15524> i have a canon multifunction printer and i have installed the printer driver but the scanner is not being detected..
[06:55] <viper_67> durabook, you might have to boot from live cd / usb. when aksed for what kind of installation you can select reinstall or repair and see if that helps
[06:57] <_doug_> Anyone using the nvidia drivers from xorg-edgers? They don't work for me. :(
[06:58] <somsip> !ppa | _doug_ (we only support official drivers here)
[06:59] <_doug_> somsip: Well, the official ones didn't work either. :)
[06:59] <somsip> _doug_: best to install those again, then come here for help
[07:00] <_doug_> csomsip: That's what I did, and TJ- suggested the xedgers ones
[07:00] <_doug_> which I did, and now I got a brick on boot. :)
[07:00] <Guest15524> ?
[07:00] <casimir> do someone have a solution to fix metasploit on ubuntu?
[07:01] <casimir> "rake-10.0.3 missing"
[07:01] <somsip> _doug_: then TJ- is very naughty... Although there are personal recommendations here for PPAs (I do it sometimes) it's not really official advice and we can't do much to advise on them. You might get someone who will help you though. Can't say NVidia drivers is my strong point so I'll bow out
[07:01] <somsip> casimir: did you upgrade?
[07:02] <casimir> cant by now
[07:02] <somsip> casimir: I don't understand that sentence
[07:02] <Ben64> casimir: metasploit isn't an ubuntu package, you'll have to contact whoever you got it from
[07:03] <JokesOnYOu77> I'm having a problem understanding bash functions. When I create a (very) simple bash function, in the terminal, using echo I find that double quotes behave unexpectadly.  I think, that exclamation points don't usually have to be excapedin double quotes, but in a function it seems to cause a problem.  Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6947449/
[07:04] <somsip> JokesOnYOu77: ! must be in '!' otherwise it will act as the history operator in "!"
[07:04] <Guest15524> when i run sane-find-scanner no scanner is detected
[07:05] <durabook> cfhowlett, okay i was able to finally get this thing running, with your help of course, thank you!
[07:05] <cfhowlett> durabook, congrats!  glad to help out.
[07:06] <viper_67> durabook, fine I didn't help :0)
[07:07] <Guest15524> is there any way i can detect a scanner
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !cookie|viper_67,
[07:07] <durabook> cfhowlett, Is there a way I can make GNOME the default instead of Unity?
[07:08] <JokesOnYOu77> somsip, So "!" will always be the history operator?  I thought only $ and ` were reinterpreted in " " ?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> durabook, once you select gnome as the desktop environment, it'll boot until you change it
[07:08] <viper_67> cfhowlett, lol what no milk. Is that anyway to treat a friend lol. Well i gtg glad you got it running durabook,
[07:08] <somsip> JokesOnYOu77: best to check these things unless you know. Thinking doesn't always help
[07:08] <durabook> cfhowlett, ok good deal
[07:09] <durabook> viper_67, Yes! Thank you too!
[07:09] <ubuntuer> こんにちは
[07:09] <JokesOnYOu77> somsip, http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3898896/Single-vs-Double-Quotes-in-Bash.htm
[07:09] <somsip> !jp | ubuntuer
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !cn|ubuntuer,
[07:09] <Abhijit> can I install ubuntu sdk on elementary os?
[07:09] <casimir> i cant upgrade now
[07:09] <Abhijit> or is it limited to pure ubuntu only?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> Abhijit, you should ask that elementary channel that question
[07:10] <casimir> I'' try the installer on rapid7 site
[07:10] <somsip> JokesOnYOu77: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6697753/difference-between-single-and-double-quotes-in-bash NB: "And, when history expansion is enabled, '!'
[07:10] <Abhijit> cfhowlett, if its limited to ubuntu by design then how can elementary guys will help?
[07:11] <cfhowlett> Abhijit, suggestion was due to elementary OS being NON-supported in this channel
[07:11] <nylar> casimir, #metasploit
[07:11] <Abhijit> cfhowlett, i am not talking about elementary os.
[07:11] <nylar> you're in the wrong chan
[07:11] <nylar> :P
[07:11] <Abhijit> and i know where to go for elementary support.
[07:11] <cfhowlett> Abhijit, ?  "can I install ubuntu sdk on elementary os?"
[07:12] <Abhijit> cfhowlett, "can I install -> ""##UBUNTU SDK##""<- on elementary os?
[07:13] <JokesOnYOu77> somsip, Thank you
[07:13] <rww> Abhijit: You may or may not be able to. As far as I know it isn't officially supported, and we don't know what changes Elementary OS makes, so we can't say whether one of them affects compatibility with it.
[07:14] <somsip> JokesOnYOu77: np
[07:15] <Abhijit> rww, okey. thanks.
[07:18] <casimir> I dont know how to register at it :(
[07:18] <rww> !register | casimir
[07:20] <Guest15524> does any one know how to configure a scanner on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[07:21] <dwarder> Guest15524: it is imposible
[07:22] <dwarder> Guest15524: that phrase should motivate you to figure out how to do this ;)
[07:22] <Guest15524> dwarder, r u serious?
[07:22] <Ben64> !behelpful | dwarder
[07:22] <Guest15524> dwarder, :)
[07:23] <bazhang> !sane | Guest15524
[07:23] <Guest15524> Its a canon multifunction, i have configured the printer after downloading drivers from the official website
[07:23] <dwarder> Ben64: nah, joke are ok
[07:23] <dwarder> jokes
[07:23] <Ben64> dwarder: no, they aren't
[07:24] <bazhang> dwarder, not helpful nor welcome here
[07:24] <dwarder> this was a sarcasm
[07:24] <bazhang> Guest15524, please see the link the bot sent you for supported scanners
[07:25] <rww> dwarder: you're in a support channel, with a higher-than-normal amount of people who 1) don't speak English well enough to pick up on sarcasm, or 2) don't know enough about Ubuntu to understand jokes about it. Best to bear this in mind.
[07:26] <dwarder> rww: you just written more not helpful words that i did :)
[07:26] <Guest15524> bazhang, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SANE%20-%20Installing%20a%20scanner%20that%20isn%27t%20auto-detected
[07:26] <dwarder> wrote*
[07:28] <Guest15524> bazhang,this link says my scanner is supported http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
[07:29] <bazhang> Guest15524, so try simplescan? or what else
[07:30] <Bray90820> How would I search text
[07:31] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, search  a document?
[07:32] <Bray90820> I'm not really sure
[07:32] <Bray90820> this is what it says
[07:33] <Bray90820> What is the difference between ‘search text’ and ‘search index’ commands? Identify the command used to invoke each of these searches
[07:34] <Guest15524> bazhang, sane-find-scanner does not detect scanner
[07:35] <bazhang> Guest15524, what about simplescan and others
[07:36] <Guest15524> bazhang, simple scan doesn;t detect either
[07:36] <dwarder> how you live without jokes in this chan?
[07:36] <bazhang> dwarder, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[07:37] <cfhowlett> dwarder, #offtopic is where you want to be if you need to be entertained.  For ubuntu support, stay here and on-topic
[07:37] <dwarder> m'kay
[07:38] <Humani> Hey guys. How can I show the files which were recently changed?
[07:39] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all. I'm looking at booting an ISO from GRUB; is there a difference between findiso=foo and iso-scan/filename=foo  ?
[07:39] <somsip> Humani: starter for you: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16085958/scripts-find-the-files-have-been-changed-in-last-24-hours
[07:40] <Humani> somsip: But find is a problem for me as the files are on NFS.
[07:41] <dwarder> is there an analogous to apache's a2enmod but for php modules in ubuntu? i should i just edit php.ini
[07:41] <dwarder> Or should *
[07:41] <somsip> Humani: apparently indexing might be helpful if it's turned on. But I don't really know
[07:42] <Humani> somsip: Can you explain what indexing is and how to turn it on?
[07:42] <ikonia> dwarder: php.ini is just a text file and should be treated like that
[07:42] <dwarder> ikonia: same for apache.conf, so why a2enmod exist?
[07:43] <viky>  I need to list all files, which are on NFS and were changed last Friday (answer me in Personal Message)
[07:43] <gordonjcp> !pm | viky
[07:43] <ikonia> dwarder: enabling/disabling the modules, it's just a tool trying to be helpful, I don't see a purpose for it, but others find it useful, more so with ubuntus modular layout for apache
[07:44] <dwarder> ikonia: yes, and my question was?
[07:44] <ikonia> dwarder: you asked if there was a tool for php.ini - the answer is "no"
[07:44] <dwarder> ikonia: thanks
[07:45] <somsip> Humani: no idea. Looks like a windows thing.
[07:45] <JokesOnYou77> dwarder: I use vim or nano for my php.ini  Not sure that helps but I figured it was worth a shot
[07:47] <Humani> Can you tell me where all the gnome / gnome-shell configuration files lie?
[07:47] <Abhijit> Humani, ~/.config
[07:47] <lschuetze> Hi, when Ubuntu is switching to Mir and I have an application using Wayland will it still run on Ubuntu (e.g., is there an MirWayland or something similar)?
[07:47] <rileyvrh> ok my compiler is working .. i must have downloaded a bad file before
[07:48] <somsip> !mir | lschuetze (we can't answer that as it't not released yet)
[07:48] <dwarder> JokesOnYou77: right, i would do so with vim also, i was just wondering if ubuntu uses special utilities to do so, and if they had it, i would use it instead, 'cause ubuntu would think it is the prefered way to do this
[07:49] <hanasaki> in kde how do you setup wifi?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> !mir|lschuetze,
[07:50] <que1> hello, I've seen people to use ";" between commands in bash, and it acts similarly to "&&". For example "mkdir test ; cd test" would do the same as "mkdir test && cd test". Are they the completely same in bash? (; and &&)
[07:51] <somsip> que1: && will only run the second command if the first completes ok AIUI
[07:51] <rileyvrh> ok have a question .. is the sound vard driver for a sound card a generic in ubuntu? or do you always have to use some kind of sound equilizer to improve the sound?
[07:51] <lschuetze> Okay, the answer was in the specs site. Thank you.
[07:52] <que1> and what about ';' somsip?
[07:52] <rww> que1: ; means "do this command, then do this other command". && means "do this command, and if it completes successfully do this other command"
[07:53] <viky> any one can help me to diasable usb ports in ubuntu
[07:53] <randomite> hello folks. has anyone been able to get conkey-manager installed on 13.1 branch?
[07:53] <que1> thank you rww, nice to know it now
[07:54] <ikonia> viky: why do you want to disable them - for what reason ?
[07:54] <JokesOnYou77> dwarder: good call.  But in general all linux configuration files are created and managed as simple text files. Which is part of the appeal :)
[07:55] <helmut_> hi
[07:56] <Bray90820> What command would i use to list of all pages and concepts in the manual
[07:56] <ikonia> do you mean in the "man" pages ?
[07:56] <Bray90820> yes
[07:56] <ikonia> Bray90820: there isn't one command, you need to use topions such as -k for keywords etc
[07:56] <ikonia> use "options"
[07:56] <Bray90820> hum oh well
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, I think it's man man
[07:57] <Bray90820> idk
[07:57] <Bray90820> i give up
[07:57] <JokesOnYou77> Bray90820: That's a lot of pages.  there isn't a single command but you can try a web based manual: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_by_section.html
[07:58] <Bray90820> here is the question that was given me
[07:58] <Bray90820> What is the difference between ‘search text’ and ‘search index’ commands? Identify the command used to invoke each of these searches in your answer.
[07:59] <ikonia> Bray90820: is this some sort of home work ?
[07:59] <somsip> Bray90820: is this homework?
[07:59] <Bray90820> yes
[07:59] <ikonia> talk to your teacher than
[07:59] <dwarder> does pinba has an url bindings like localhost/phpmyadmin     i.e. localhost/pinba
[07:59] <ikonia> then
[08:00] <Bray90820> i would talk to the teacher but she never got back to me
[08:00] <bazhang> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130204163102AAs5Y7e Bray90820
[08:00] <ikonia> Bray90820: talk to your head master then,
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, wait , so you expect us to do your homework?  Not happening
[08:01] <Bray90820> it was 1 question
[08:01] <bazhang> he got the answer, lets move on please
[08:01] <bazhang> see the link I gave you Bray90820
[08:01] <Humani> In which gnome-configuration file can I set the wallpaper?
[08:01] <Bray90820> bazhang: i saw it and it helped a lot
[08:02] <JokesOnYou77> I personally think it's silly not to help people with homework. The purpose is for you to learn and if you're not finding it in the course material this is clearly a good place to go to find information, just like any other source.  Unfortunately, I don't know the answer :P
[08:02] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, perhaps the #ubuntu-offtopic channel might help you - we
[08:02] <Bray90820> JokesOnYou77: cfhowlett thank you
[08:02] <Jakey> hi i need help
[08:02] <CountryfiedLinux> Will there be an official Mate edition of Ubuntu 14.10?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, no problem
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !mate
[08:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Looks like Mate 1.8 is just about finished :)
[08:03] <Jakey> i want to upgrade to php 5.3
[08:03] <Jakey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:03] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: mate edition of ubuntu ? where is tht ?
[08:03] <Jakey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6947599/
[08:03] <Jakey> thats the log
[08:03] <Jakey> i get
[08:03] <somsip> Jakey: what version of ubuntu?
[08:03] <Jakey> it keeps installing php 5.2
[08:03] <ikonia> Jakey: supported ubuntu distros use later than php 5.3 by default
[08:03] <Jakey> please help
[08:03] <Jakey> 12.04
[08:03] <somsip> !info php5 precise | Jakey
[08:03] <ikonia> Jakey: 12.04 uses later than 5.2
[08:04] <Jakey> please help
[08:04] <Jakey> its urgent
[08:04] <cfhowlett> Jakey, try the paste again with the actual link
[08:04] <CountryfiedLinux> There is none "officially" ikonia but Mate can be installed and Mint is Ubuntu based and has a Mate edition. I'm hoping Ubuntu has an officially supported Mate edition though.
[08:04] <Jakey> cfhowlett:??
[08:04] <somsip> CountryfiedLinux: apparantly it will from 14.04
[08:04] <ikonia> it's got karmic repos
[08:04] <Jakey> what?
[08:04] <ikonia> and precise ones
[08:04] <ikonia> your mahine is a mess
[08:04] <cfhowlett> Jakey, there it is.  nvm
[08:04] <ikonia> damn lag, machine
[08:04] <CountryfiedLinux> Great news somsip :D thanks
[08:05] <Jakey> ikonia: uses later than 5.2?
[08:05] <Jakey> cfhowlett:
[08:05] <Jakey> ??
[08:05] <ikonia> Jakey: look at your paste - you have precise and karmic repos
[08:05] <Jakey> i don't get you guys
[08:05] <Jakey> ikonia: how do i fix this
[08:05] <Jakey> :(
[08:05] <Jakey> please its urgent
[08:05] <ikonia> Jakey: I wouldn't suggest trying to - I'd suggest doing a clean 12.04 install
[08:05] <Jakey> i'm a centos fan
[08:05] <Jakey> not ubuntu
[08:05] <ikonia> Jakey: that will be your quickest way to a stble build
[08:06] <Jakey> ikonia: thats not an option ikonia
[08:06] <Jakey> how can i update using the precise repo
[08:06] <Jakey> i want to update to php 5.3
[08:07] <cfhowlett> Jakey, perhaps you'd be happier using centos then?
[08:07] <Jakey> cfhowlett: i can't
[08:07] <ikonia> Jakey: if it is urgent it is your only oiption
[08:07] <ikonia> option
[08:07] <Jakey> ikonia: what is the other options of not reinstalling
[08:08] <Jakey> can't i fix the repo
[08:08] <ikonia> Jakey: if it is urgent - it is your only option
[08:08] <Jakey> okay not that urgent
[08:08] <ikonia> Jakey: then you are wasting my time with lies
[08:08] <Jakey> ikonia: i need help
[08:08] <Jakey> ikonia: what is the problem i wan to update to 5.3
[08:09] <ikonia> Jakey: yes, and you are telling lies about wha tyou need
[08:09] <randomite> after adding the ppa key using sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:teejee2008/ppa , running an apt-get update, and then running apt-get install conky-manager, i get an unable to locate
[08:09] <Jakey> ikonia: i just want to update from 5.2 to 5.3
[08:09] <ikonia> Jakey: repeating it doesn't change it
[08:09] <Jakey> ikonia: should i reompile from soruce
[08:09] <randomite> is this happening for anyone else? is there a reason the PPA isnt working for me? I can SEE it (visually, on the webpage)
[08:09] <ikonia> Jakey: no
[08:10] <Jakey> ikonia: did you see the log
[08:10] <Jakey> ikonia: it mention 5.3
[08:10] <Jakey> ikonia: how can i use that repo
[08:10] <ikonia> Jakey: yes, thats how I gave you advice and spotted your problem
[08:11] <Jakey> ikonia: so i don't want to reinstall
[08:11] <Jakey> ikonia: it has lots other data on it
[08:11] <Jakey> ikonia: its hosting multple site
[08:11] <Jakey> help
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !patience|Jakey,
[08:13] <Jakey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6947599/
[08:13] <Jakey> help need to update to 5.3
[08:13] <ikonia> repeating it doesn't change it
[08:13] <Jakey> so whats the problem?
[08:13] <ikonia> Jakey: I've told you the problem
[08:13] <Jakey> so what is the problem why is it not getting the latest version
[08:13] <elky> karmic? are you serious?
[08:13] <cfhowlett> !karmic
[08:13] <somsip> Jakey: who administered this server before you?
[08:14] <elky> why is karmic in your repository list?
[08:14] <Jakey> some dude
[08:14] <rww> lol package pinning
[08:14] <Jakey> so who do i fix this
[08:14] <ikonia> Jakey: as I've told you 3 times - your machine is screwed, you've mixed repos
[08:14]  * cfhowlett begins to suspect this thread
[08:14] <ikonia> Jakey: if this is a serious machine and it's urgent as you said, you NEED to resinstall to get to a sane working system
[08:14] <somsip> Jakey: he's pinned the version of php5 as an out of date package on a version that is no longer supported. Try unpinning php5 (look it up) and then retry. NO guarantees as your systems is a mess
[08:14] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[08:15] <Jakey> somsip: thatnks bro
[08:15] <somsip> !pinning | Jakey
[08:15] <Jakey> somsip: i'll try
[08:15] <randomite> empty room. goodbye nobody.
[08:15] <ikonia> do not unpin
[08:15] <ikonia> your repos are mixed
[08:15] <ikonia> it will screw it
[08:15] <ikonia> ahh never mind, carry on
[08:15] <Jakey> ikonia: huh?
[08:15] <somsip> Jakey: but 'some dude' has dropped you in it. the server is a mess. Anything could happen.
[08:16] <Jakey> somsip: so what will happen if i upin it
[08:16] <somsip> Jakey: you should probably look for other pinned packages too, and wonder why he pinned them
[08:16] <somsip> Jakey: no idea. I don't let my servers get into that mess
[08:16] <hanasaki> how do I find the bluetooth hardware on the system?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth
[08:18] <Jakey> somsip: theres no instuction for unpinning
[08:19] <somsip> Jakey: yes there is. Under 'removing a hold'. But if you can't find that, you are probably setting yourself up for a world of hurt...
[08:19] <Jakey> somsip: oh i just passed that
[08:20] <Jakey> somsip: so i should do "apt-mark unhold php5"
[08:20] <Jakey> ?
[08:20] <Jakey> is it the right command
[08:20] <ppcsee> .
[08:21] <hanasaki> motherboard is supposed to have bluetooth on it... how do I find the hardware?
[08:21] <Jakey> apt-mark unhold php5
[08:21] <Jakey> php5 was already not hold.
[08:21] <Jakey> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:21] <Jakey> what happen?
[08:21] <somsip> Jakey: I'm not going to hand-hold you through this. If you are doing server admin on a machine hosting multiple sites with lots of data on it, you should be absolutely sure what you are doing. It doesn't seem like you are
[08:21] <ikonia> your machine is BROKE
[08:21] <ikonia> I don't have any simpler way of saying it
[08:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Sorry about your damn luck boy...
[08:23] <Jakey> somsip:
[08:23] <Jakey> apt-mark unhold php5
[08:23] <Jakey> php5 was already not hold.
[08:23] <Jakey> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:23] <Jakey> i got that error
[08:23] <ikonia> stop repeating things
[08:23] <somsip> Jakey: I know. I read it. Did you read what I said?
[08:23] <ikonia> it doesn't change the advice you are given
[08:24] <Jakey> somsip: i don't use ubuntu that much
[08:24] <Jakey> i use centos
[08:24] <Jakey> somsip: so. what should i do next
[08:25] <ikonia> Jakey:if you use centos you would be abe to grasp the simple fact of not mixing repos
[08:25] <ikonia> so the fact that you say you can use centos suggests you can't use centos either
[08:25] <ikonia> j	youve got the same as mixing a centos 4 repo on a centos 6 mahinchine
[08:25] <Jakey> ikonia: why would i do that
[08:25] <ikonia> and you dont seem to be able to grasp - it's a real problem
[08:26] <ikonia> Jakey: you wouldn't do that, that's the point - you souldn't do it - but you've done it on your ubuntu machine
[08:26] <Jakey> ikonia: i didn't
[08:26] <Jakey> ikonia: some one else did
[08:26] <ikonia> Jakey: it's there !
[08:26] <ikonia> I can see it
[08:26] <ikonia> this is a waste of itme
[08:26] <ikonia> time
[08:27] <cfhowlett> I seem to recall seeing this EXACT thread not long ago ... with the same outcome
[08:27] <Jakey> cfhowlett: what was the outcome
[08:30] <Jakey> heyyyee
[08:31] <Caterpillar2> I have never seen in all my life 1600 users in a single IRC channel
[08:31] <cfhowlett> !server|Jakey,
[08:31] <Gallomimia> well that can't be true cause you're seeing it right now
[08:33] <Jakey> Gallomimia: ??
[08:33] <Jakey> Gallomimia: troll
[08:33] <Gallomimia> sorry jakey i was directing that to Caterpillar2
[08:33] <ikonia> enough
[08:33]  * Jakey currently is not in the mood for troll
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|Jakey,
[08:34] <Gallomimia> am now ready to reinstall ubuntu onto a new raid configuration. i've heard the best way to do this is during the installer?
[08:34] <ikonia> Jakey: enough now - you're causing more of a problem than anyone in the channel, so please think about your next interaction
[08:34] <Jakey> Gallomimia: use centos
[08:34] <Jakey> Gallomimia: for server
[08:34] <Gallomimia> i'm not running a server
[08:35] <Gallomimia> thanks
[08:35] <cfhowlett> ikonia, and THAT was the outcome last time.
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, ignore.
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !raid
[08:35] <Gallomimia> i've been internet chatting for a long time :) it never bothers me
[08:35] <Gallomimia> hey this is a good link thanks
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, hope you find the answer there.
[08:36] <Gallomimia> i've been following some suggestions from someone... uh his name was nevyn
[08:43] <aidalgol> How do I find out which device grub is currently installed on?  Or rather, how do I find out which device I should pass to grub-install?  (I've just run update-grub to update the config after installing a secondary OS.)
[08:44] <geirha> aidalgol: Usually, you want it on the first harddrive (/dev/sda, hd0)
[08:45] <irssi-mike> aidalgol: well master boot record. if you sudo fdisk -l you should find sda1 sda2 that kind of thing then install geirha said to /dev/sda typically
[08:45] <aidalgol> Is that still true when using EFI?
[08:46] <aidalgol> I know you pass /dev/sda or hd0 when using the msdos partition table, but my new PC is using UEFI.
[08:48] <geirha> Haven't had the pleasure of dealing with EFI yet, so I'll back away here
[08:49] <irssi-mike> aidalgol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[08:54] <aidalgol> Huh, it seems that my system installed in legacy mode, i.e. not using EFI.
[08:54] <irssi-mike> aidalgol: good then you don't need to install in efi mode
[08:55] <aidalgol> Does it make any difference once the OS has been booted?  Do I lose some motherboard features?
[08:56] <Jeffthen> Hey guys. In which configuratino file can I disable the xscreensaver?
[08:57] <irssi-mike> aidalgol: do you have a over 2.2tb?
[08:57] <aidalgol> no
[08:57] <czardoz> Jeffthen: you could just uninstall it, right?
[08:58] <irssi-mike> i suppose you lose pre-boot networking and some fast boot things, secureboot.. idk what these are tbh
[08:58] <artienne> i'm having a minor issue with my wifi connection - there seems to be a regular (possibly network-manager based) scan happening about every two  minutes  that's causing high ping times to my router - any ideas on how to either prevent the scans or increase the delay between them?
[08:58] <Jeffthen> czardoz: But I don't want to uninstall it. So is there any configuration parameter and file for turning off the xscreensaver?
[08:59] <irssi-mike> aidalgol: i'd install it but then it's like exhaust reflow on a car, one more thing that can go wrong
[09:00] <czardoz> Jeffthen: Sorry, can't help you then.
[09:00] <humbag> Jeffthen: use the program xscreensaver-demo to configure it, or change mode: to none in ~/.xscreensaver, but where is it started?
[09:01] <aidalgol> Considering an EFI partition has to be FAT32, I think I'll leave it. :P
[09:01] <Jeffthen> humbag: OK I want to use my own images for xscreensaver. How can I do that?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Jeffthen, see the xscreensaver settings -you can direct to your image file
[09:02] <humbag> Jeffthen: you can choose that in the config program I mentioned, are you sure you mean xscreensaver and not gnome-screensaver?
[09:03] <Jeffthen> humbag: So can I turn off the screensaver via changing the mode to "none"?
[09:05] <humbag> Jeffthen: if you don't want it to start, don't start it, the config just changes what it does
[09:05] <Jeffthen> humbag: Yeah. Even if I do "xset s off" the "xscreensaver" process is still running. Why?
[09:07] <humbag> Jeffthen: i think xset is X power management, xscreensaver has it's own daemon
[09:08] <humbag> Jeffthen: often the motherboard and/or screen also have power management features
[09:14] <basichash> My laptop won't play media sound. The speakers never worked, but headphones did. Sometimes I used to have to hibernate and unhibernate to get that sound working, but now the only sound I get is the turning on beep. Lenovo Edge E320, 13.10
[09:14] <jack> why is saucy so silent...no updates for days?
[09:14] <ikonia> updates only when needed
[09:15] <jack> i'm running linuxmint 16, uses saucy...i'm just surprised :P
[09:15] <cfhowlett> !mint|jack,
[09:16] <jack> heh, yeah
[09:16] <basichash> fixed
[09:16] <Oddly> basichash: how?
[09:18] <basichash> Oddly: for some reason default sound went back to HDMI, just had to change current back to headphone
[09:18] <jack> i have an installed xubuntu-trusty, too
[09:18] <jack> but somehow its connectivity broke
[09:18] <Gallomimia> can anyone suggest something i could do to my cpu that would make it heat up a little bit? i have 8 cores and just redid the thermal paste on it, and would like to see if it's working decently
[09:18] <jack> libnm-glib something
[09:18] <ikonia> jack: tat seems very very unwise
[09:19] <ikonia> jack: you are not meant to mix distributions
[09:19] <rww> Gallomimia: eight copies of "yes > /dev/null"
[09:19] <ikonia> jack: you've probably created a real problem
[09:19] <Gallomimia> heh. gross. i suppose, i'll try it with 4
[09:19] <jack> i'm not mixing anything
[09:19] <ikonia> jack: really ?
[09:19] <ikonia> jack: I thought you said you'd installed trust packages ?
[09:19] <ikonia> jack: or have I miss-understood
[09:20] <jack> only explained why i'm not using that xubuntu anymore
[09:20] <Oddly> Gallomimia: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1024
[09:20] <ikonia> jack: have you installed trusty packages ?
[09:20] <jack> nope
[09:20] <ikonia> jack: then where did you install xubuntu trusty ?
[09:20] <jack> on the trusty-install, sure
[09:20] <ikonia> oh, seperate installs
[09:20] <Oddly> Gallomimia: or cpuburn, cpulimit
[09:20] <Gallomimia> 3 copies of yes > /dev/null is working just fine