[09:59] <breadcrook> venkman: i mean for a library of your own movies
[10:00] <venkman> oh
[10:00] <venkman> no
[10:00] <venkman> but i do own the ghostbusters!
[10:00] <venkman> and space balls :)
[10:00] <gypsymauro> hello
[10:00] <cikilin> where do i have to check?
[10:00] <venkman> you?
[10:00] <ups> cikilin, synaptic
[10:00] <cikilin> k
[10:00] <cikilin> let me see
[10:01] <Raquen> ups: a good program for see video?
[10:01] <gypsymauro> trying to install ubuntu on a lan client, I can access to internet only thrugh proxy, but the installer never asks me to configure it so it freezes trying to test apt repository
[10:01] <ups> Raquen, totem, mplayer, vlc...
[10:01] <syn-ack> It should ask for a proxy
[10:01] <Raquen> tnx
[10:01] <syn-ack> thats one of the first things the installed does
[10:02] <davegahan> I like VLC a lot
[10:02] <davegahan> much better than Totem
[10:02] <ups> vlc is nice, but mplayer can pretty much play *any* video file :)
[10:02] <bodaciousb> how do i delete a directry that isnt empty?
[10:02] <cikilin> ups no
[10:03] <ups> yeah totem with gstreamer backend doesn't work well for me too
[10:03] <cikilin> do i intsall it?
[10:03] <ups> cikilin, ofcourse :)
[10:03] <syn-ack> bodaciousb: man rm and man rmdir
[10:03] <bodaciousb> syn-ack do you mean delete everything individually?
[10:03] <syn-ack> no
[10:03] <gypsymauro> syn-ack: it doesn't.. :/
[10:04] <syn-ack> gypsymauro: which installer is this?
[10:04] <syn-ack> bodaciousb: I mean man the rm page and read it... it will tell you how to do it..
[10:04] <cikilin> ups thanks
[10:04] <cikilin> working
[10:04] <syn-ack> bodaciousb: BE CARFULL with the command though
[10:04] <ups> cikilin, np
[10:04] <bodaciousb> syn-ack: ok, thank you
[10:04] <blueyed> davegahan, you could just do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" which would install all KDE relevant packages, then from the login window (gdm) choose KDE and hope that it does not lockup.
[10:05] <blueyed> What about failsafe gnome (or sth similar)?
[10:06] <venkman> wow
[10:06] <venkman> my 30 line pl/sql function compiled.
[10:06] <venkman> hah
[10:07] <Aircobra> hi
[10:07] <gypsymauro> syn-ack: ubuntu 5.04 choosing italian
[10:08] <davegahan> OK I will try to do that blueyed
[10:08] <davegahan> how can I get rid of KDE afterwards ?
[10:08] <gypsymauro> it installs the system then asks me if I want to download italian packages , I answer yes but then it checks apt repository without asking me proxy config
[10:09] <gypsymauro> and then doesn't goes in timeout..
[10:09] <syn-ack> gypsymauro: hrm.... the Hoary installer did it for me... I dont think the codepage would really matter in this situation...
[10:10] <venkman> damn italians.
[10:10] <gypsymauro> lol
[10:10] <gypsymauro> venkman: :P
[10:10] <venkman> :)
[10:10] <syn-ack> Im italian.. watch it. :p
[10:10] <venkman> where's my lamborghini?
[10:10] <gypsymauro> hoary is the 5.04?
[10:10] <bodaciousb> syn-ack: i read the manual and rmdir -d doesnt do anything, as well as rm -d -f doesnt do anything
[10:10] <syn-ack> gypsymauro: yes
[10:10] <venkman> i want an early 90s contach please.
[10:11] <bodaciousb> syn-ack: i still cant delete that directry withought doing a 1 file at a time deal
[10:11] <bob2> bodaciousb: rm -r dirname
[10:11] <venkman> oh
[10:11] <venkman> and i want white
[10:11] <venkman> with white interior
[10:11] <venkman> ok
[10:11] <venkman> thnx
[10:11] <syn-ack> bodaciousb: thats because you need to have the recursive flag like bob2 said
[10:11] <gypsymauro> syn-ack: but did u install the italian version?:)
[10:11] <syn-ack> gypsymauro: No. I live in the US... I dont know a lick of the language. :)
[10:11] <bodaciousb> syn-ack: worked like a charm, thank you
[10:13] <venkman> how much do lamborghinis cost in italy?
[10:15] <blueyed> davegahan: You'd have to remove all the packages again, that you do not want/need (quite a lot then actually). It would probably better to "sudo apt-get install xfce4" then. It gets also installed as an alternative desktop environment.
[10:18] <Zerboxx> blueyed: I figured it out, not with that link you sent, but with a few others.  I had to make firefox recognize the irc protocol with 2 extra little lines
[10:19] <blueyed> Zerboxx, where?
[10:20] <Zerboxx> blueyed Where are the lines?
[10:21] <blueyed> yes, where did you add those lines?
[10:21] <davegahan> actually i better make a backup of my files and reinstall ubuntu
[10:21] <Zerboxx> blueyed: with Firefox up, type "about:config" in the address bar
[10:23] <blueyed> ok, Zerboxx. And than adding new network.protocol... line?
[10:23] <Zerboxx> blueyed right click and go to new --> boolean and put "network.protocol-handler.external.irc" then choose True
[10:23] <Zerboxx> then, you do the same but choose string, and put in "network.protocol-handler.app.irc" and then put in "xchat" (unless you use something else)
[10:24] <Zerboxx> I found the entry on one site, and the other on another, put'em together and tada
[10:24] <blueyed> fine :)
[10:24] <blueyed> Though the gnome-way would be global for all gnome apps.
[10:24] <Zerboxx> Another question to test your expertise blueyed :)
[10:25] <blueyed> like gnome-open would profit, too. - nada, just on Linux since Hoary.. :)
[10:25] <Zerboxx> I found the directions there confusing so I stuck with the firefox directions :)
[10:26] <Zerboxx> Can you make it (in gnome) so windows snap to edges?
[10:26] <hans_> im not hearing any sound when playing a game with wine
[10:26] <blueyed> Zerboxx: when moving? to screen borders and other windows? I thought I had it there (using kde actually).
[10:27] <Zerboxx> blueyed: I know KDE has it (I was running MDK a few hours ago) but I haven't found a setting in gnome to do that
[10:30] <blueyed> Zerboxx, I would google. No other idea - though there might be something in the settings menu (windows), where also autofocus (xhover) is.
[10:30] <Zerboxx> blueyed, thanks again, you've been a great help
[10:31] <forsaker8k6> 'moring guys! :D
[10:31] <Zerboxx> morning?! yeah I guess so...Hi!
[10:32] <hans_> i have a problem with the sound in wine...can anybody help?
[10:32] <forsaker8k6> mmm.. yep :P
[10:33] <Zerboxx> 4am here so still dark :)
[10:34] <spiral> hi
[10:34] <forsaker8k6> here 10 am and the sun shines :P
[10:34] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: where are you Nova Scota?
[10:34] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: Hamilton, Ontario
[10:34] <syn-ack> rather s/ //;
[10:35] <syn-ack> Thats still the same timezone as central, no?
[10:35] <Zerboxx> umm no, I'm est
[10:35] <syn-ack> ah
[10:36] <Zerboxx> ya, damn it's early, but I had to get ubuntu workin' nicely :D
[10:36] <syn-ack> Im running Breezy, so there is no "working Nicely." :)
[10:36] <forsaker8k6> asd
[10:36] <Zerboxx> Breezy?
[10:36] <forsaker8k6> unstable Ubuntu :P
[10:37] <Zerboxx> oooh fun
[10:37] <forsaker8k6> syn-ack: is it SO unstable?
[10:37] <syn-ack> Its not too bad, actually
[10:37] <Zerboxx> Question: Is there any way to have 2 programs which produce sound to do that at the same time?  I keep getting "whatever device is in use"
[10:37] <syn-ack> There is *some* breakage which I still have to go thru, fix and submit bugreports
[10:37] <Zerboxx> ...well 2 or more I guess
[10:38] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: Use ALSA not, OSS
[10:38] <forsaker8k6> syn-ack: i've got to try some day or later...
[10:38] <syn-ack> Change the plugin its using to ALSA
[10:38] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: I'm kinda new, so how do I go about doing that?
[10:38] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: What program is this?
[10:39] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: I have amaroK and I was just testing out...totem
[10:39] <syn-ack> ah... I dont use either... heh
[10:39] <Zerboxx> heh
[10:39] <forsaker8k6> neither do I :D
[10:39] <syn-ack> iirc, they both have gstreamer support though
[10:40] <syn-ack> Well, I *know* that totem does...
[10:40] <hal0> is this the help channel?
[10:40] <hal0> cause i need a lil help :-D
[10:40] <Zerboxx> when I look at Volume Control I'm using Intel82801DB-1CH4 (ALSA Mixer), so I am using Alsa...right?
[10:40] <syn-ack> yes
[10:41] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: The actual apps have to be using it too
[10:41] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: Take XMMS for example, out of the box, it uses OSS as the default output dev
[10:41] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: When I choolse alsa in amaroK I get this error: [GStreamer Error]  Alsa device "default" does not exist......:/
[10:42] <syn-ack> hrmmm
[10:42] <syn-ack> let me install amarok
[10:42] <Zerboxx> thanks a ton syn-ack
[10:43] <hal0> to launch java programs, ya gotta use the command line, right?  so how do you setup a command line shortcut to execute a terminal java command?
[10:43] <syn-ack> oh, wow
[10:44] <forsaker8k6> hal0, you can write a little bash script :P
[10:44] <hal0> yeah, cept i dont know the first thing about doing that :-x
[10:44] <syn-ack> Holy hell, I need to configure MySQL for this thing?
[10:44] <hans_> how do i see if my graphics device supports direct draw?
[10:44] <Zerboxx> nono I just used there generic thing
[10:45] <Zerboxx> :D
[10:45] <Zerboxx> Is there a command to see all packages under a name with apt-get?
[10:45] <forsaker8k6> hal0, it's nothing so hard you have to create a brand new text file
[10:45] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: apt-cache search
[10:45] <forsaker8k6> with nano or your preferred text editor
[10:47] <xoxoxo> hello. anybody pls tell me a tool in ubuntu that can remove CR/LF in text files? i want to convert Windows text file to linux.
[10:48] <topyli> hal0: start the file with a line like " #!/bin/sh " and it's a script
[10:48] <Zerboxx> syn-ack I'm not sure what packages of alsa I have installed and which I need, that might be the problem...
[10:48] <topyli> then add the commands you want, each on its own line
[10:49] <forsaker8k6> :D
[10:49] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: You dont need anything ALSA its already installed.
[10:49] <topyli> save to your ~/bin and make executable. voila!
[10:49] <shane__> Hey, I have a problem with having two NIC's.
[10:50] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: This is more of a grstreamer issue
[10:50] <shane__> it's really anoying, when I try to set one as the default it ignores me
[10:50] <shane__> And then it uses the nic for my home network as the default, causing the internet to not work
[10:50] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: Hmm, though gstreamer and oss work fine *grumble*
[10:50] <shane__> I keep choose, eh1 deault over and over again
[10:50] <shane__> totally ignores me
[10:50] <shane__> :p
[10:51] <forsaker8k6> guys, i gotta go. See you!
[10:51] <ice_1963> by
[10:52] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: Give a few, figuring out this thing
[10:52] <Zerboxx> syn-ack sure thing
[10:52] <ShaneAu> :(
[10:54] <topyli> ShaneAu: not sure but try 'route add default eth1'
[10:55] <topyli> ShaneAu: it will fix it or breake it completely :)
[10:55] <ShaneAu> :O lol
[10:55] <ShaneAu> Ill search the ubuntu forums briefly first, then I'll try that
[10:55] <ShaneAu> (if I don't find anything)
[10:56] <topyli> ShaneAu: or google, it's generic for all linuxen
[10:57] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: hrm... looking around in amaroK, i dont see anything... let me check some other things
[10:57] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: Ok, thanks
[10:58] <ShaneAu> At the moment I have eth1 disabled, otherwise it will default to it and then it attempts to use my homenetwork as the internet
[10:58] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: um.... I dont know...
[10:58] <syn-ack> let me open a console now and look into some ALSA settings
[10:59] <Zerboxx> syn-ack hrmm ok, thanks
[10:59] <topyli> ShaneAu: oh yeah, you'll have to use eth0 for the route command or whatever you want to be default
[10:59] <ShaneAu> yep
[10:59] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: do you have /dev/pcm?
[11:00] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: no
[11:00] <topyli> ShaneAu: or just switch the network cables :)
[11:00] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: heres a little test for that, and remember to turn your system down... cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mixer
[11:01] <syn-ack> To stop it, hit ^C
[11:01] <Zerboxx> cat: write error: Invalid argument
[11:01] <ShaneAu> topyli, I've tryed that, it adentually sets the default to my lan]
[11:01] <ShaneAu> :S
[11:01] <ShaneAu> Eventually*
[11:01] <topyli> hrm
[11:01] <syn-ack> Gah, I havent had to mess with ALSA in a while.. forgive me
[11:01] <Zerboxx> syn-ack should I sudo the command?
[11:01] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: that's alright :)
[11:03] <syn-ack> AHA
[11:03] <Zerboxx> !
[11:03] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: ls /dev/snd/ and tell me if you see pcm...
[11:04] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: I see pcmC0D0c, pcmC0D0p, pcmC0D1c, pcm C0D2c, 3c and 4c
[11:04] <syn-ack> Ok, you have it then
[11:05] <syn-ack> and whats the error again?
[11:05] <Zerboxx> umm 1 second
[11:05] <Zerboxx> [GStreamer Error]  ALSA device "deafult" does not exist
[11:06] <syn-ack> oooooh
[11:06] <syn-ack> hrm
[11:06] <Zerboxx> hrm indeed
[11:07] <KaiL> Zerboxx: croll-upgrade from sarge?
[11:07] <KaiL> cross..
[11:07] <syn-ack> try this... with sudo... dpkg -l | grep gstreamer0.8-alsa
[11:07] <Zerboxx> KaiL: Umm I did a fresh install..if that's what your asking me
[11:07] <KaiL> ok
[11:07] <KaiL> I have the same fun here
[11:08] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: now what?
[11:08] <syn-ack> what does it say?
[11:08] <KaiL> gstreamer-alsa cries about devices not being there, which are there
[11:08] <Zerboxx> syn-ack nothing, back at prompt
[11:08] <syn-ack> ;)
[11:08] <johpe> hi there, I've just used synaptic to install the swedish language packs, then I've run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and selected the sv_SE.UTF-8 but when I log out and log in again through gdm selecting the newly installed swedish language ubuntu says: "Language sv_SE.UTF-8 does not exist, using System defaul" ... anyone got any suggestion to this problem!??
[11:08] <syn-ack> KaiL: lookie there, its not installed.
[11:09] <syn-ack> actually, there was a typo.... dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[11:09] <syn-ack> try that
[11:10] <Zerboxx> ahh
[11:10] <johpe> I've gotten swedish in Firefox but that's it nowhere else in the system...
[11:10] <Zerboxx> syn-ack ok, got lots of stuff that time
[11:10] <syn-ack> Should be the first one, no?
[11:11] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: the first one in that list is the ALSA plugin for GStreamer, yes
[11:11] <syn-ack> hrm. WTF then
[11:12] <syn-ack> its installed.
[11:12] <syn-ack> All of it is.
[11:12] <Zerboxx> ;)
[11:12] <syn-ack> it does, like has been pointed out..
[11:13] <spiral> why isn't gimp 2.2.6 in breezy ?
[11:13] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: this is something to do with AmaroK, because it works FINE here....
[11:13] <spiral> and gnat-gps2 ?
[11:13] <syn-ack> spiral: it hasent been included yet?
[11:13] <Zerboxx> syn-ack Where else can I test out alsa, just to verify?
[11:13] <spiral> and firefox 1.0.3 ?
[11:14] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: pop open xmms
[11:14] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: I don't have it, should I download it?
[11:14] <syn-ack> use Music Player then
[11:15] <syn-ack> aka Rythmbox
[11:15] <Zerboxx> and it uses alsa by default?
[11:15] <syn-ack> yes
[11:15] <syn-ack> it uses gstreamer.
[11:15] <Zerboxx> *sigh* stupid amaroK
[11:16] <mjr> I think it uses esd by default in ubuntu, at least, but you can tune that with gstreamer-properties if you need to
[11:16] <mjr> (tune and check)
[11:16] <Amaranth> mjr: Rhythmbox uses gstreamer. :)
[11:16] <mjr> yes, and gstreamer uses esd
[11:16] <mjr> -> rhythmbox uses esd
[11:16] <Amaranth> Nope.
[11:16] <syn-ack> not if the ALSA plugin is installed.
[11:16] <Amaranth> Rhythmbox doesn't care where the sound goes or where it comes from.
[11:17] <Amaranth> It uses gstreamer. :P
[11:17] <mjr> *sigh*
[11:17] <Amaranth> I know, you're trying to play word games.
[11:17] <syn-ack> esd is barely used in Gnome now.
[11:17] <mjr> Amaranth, well, play your little terminology games if you
[11:17] <mjr> must
[11:17] <Amaranth> I'm an Apple fanboy, I can play with words all day. :D
[11:17] <Zerboxx> When I go to gstreamer-properties OSS was chosen, so I switched to ALSA, and tested and I get: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA-Advance...'"
[11:17] <Amaranth> Like that 3Ghz in a year bit.
[11:18] <Zerboxx> same error with ESD if that matters
[11:18] <Amaranth> Same with OSS and arts?
[11:19] <Zerboxx> not with OSS and I don't see arts
[11:19] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: go to System => Prefs => Multimedia Systems Selector and see what that says...
[11:19] <Amaranth> I think it can use arts, anyway.
[11:19] <Amaranth> That's where he is...
[11:19] <Zerboxx> yup, that's where I am
[11:19] <Zerboxx> out of ALSA, ESD and OSS, only oss works
[11:19] <Amaranth> Ok, so gstreamer is totally fubar.
[11:19] <Amaranth> Can you see if xmms plays music?
[11:19] <syn-ack> no, ALSA is
[11:20] <Zerboxx> is it possible to unfubar it?
[11:20] <syn-ack> Seems that there is no ALSA driver... which isnt right.. what hardware are you running, Zerboxx?
[11:20] <Amaranth> syn-ack: Possibly, since OSS is a wrapper around ALSA now and ESD uses OSS.
[11:20] <syn-ack> Amaranth: right
[11:20] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: I'm running a laptop so little hard to tell, I forget the name sigmetel or something...
[11:21] <syn-ack> Thats an SB live then
[11:21] <syn-ack> I have the same card in my workstation
[11:21] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: I can find out, but it'll take some digging (haven't found an easy way in ubuntu yet)
[11:21] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: sudo lspci -vv
[11:21] <Amaranth> That's the emuwhatever10k driver. :P
[11:21] <Amaranth> I haven't used a Live! in awhile.
[11:22] <syn-ack> Amaranth: I want to make sure...
[11:22] <Zerboxx> geez, what is this syn-ack??
[11:22] <syn-ack> that is the hardware you have in your box
[11:22] <Amaranth> Yeah, lspci -vv is a little shocking.
[11:22] <Amaranth> lsusb -vv is worse :)
[11:22] <Zerboxx> I'm guessing this is it: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4 -L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:23] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: now do you see something along these lines? 0000:00:13.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[11:23] <Amaranth> Ok, not a Live! card then.
[11:23] <syn-ack> good good
[11:23] <syn-ack> its ac97 and I forget that module..
[11:23] <Amaranth> I think I have an ac97, hang on.
[11:23] <MyNameIsChris> Any sound Gurus here?
[11:23] <Zerboxx> hehe this is completely over my head now :s
[11:24] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: what does sudo lsmod say?
[11:24] <Amaranth> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[11:24] <Amaranth> I wonder if the driver is the same.
[11:24] <Zerboxx> syn-ack lots of stuff, what in particular?
[11:24] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: do this... lsmod | grep snd
[11:24] <Amaranth> Nope, my alsa modules are snd_via*
[11:25] <Amaranth> I mean, I have snd_ac97_codec but that's useless without the card specific driver.
[11:25] <syn-ack> right
[11:25] <Zerboxx> ok I have 9 things now
[11:25] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: pastbin.com it for me, please
[11:26] <MyNameIsChris> Sounds like I cam at the right time. Can anyone help me set up 5.1ch sound in Hoary on an Intel ICH5?
[11:26] <Zerboxx> syn-ack pardon?
[11:26] <Amaranth> Zerboxx: http://rafb.net/paste/
[11:26] <syn-ack> or that
[11:26] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: Copy and paste the output there
[11:27] <Zerboxx> what nickname do I put? desc? language?
[11:27] <Amaranth> Well, I know Evanescence is awesome but that's about it. :D
[11:27] <Amaranth> Zerboxx: You just need to put in a nick.
[11:27] <Amaranth> Doesn't matter what it is, you'll be pasted a URL for us.
[11:27] <Amaranth> s/pasted/pasting/
[11:27] <Zerboxx> ok, done
[11:27] <syn-ack> whats the url now?
[11:27] <Zerboxx> http://rafb.net/paste/results/SOQGYe37.html
[11:28] <syn-ack> Everything looks right..
[11:28] <Mace68> has anyone tried nero linux?
[11:29] <Zerboxx> is it possible that a config file is just looking for the wrong thing?
[11:29] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: I think I would have to side with Amaranth on this one,, gstreamer is toast...
[11:30] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: anyway to bring it back to life? re-install maybe?
[11:30] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: Hold that thought
[11:30] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgstreamer-0.8
[11:30] <Amaranth> try that
[11:30] <Amaranth> err
[11:30] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgstreamer-0.8-0
[11:31] <Zerboxx> couldn't find package
[11:33] <TFP> hi
[11:33] <Zerboxx> If need be, I could just reinstall ubuntu, and keep my /home drive the way it is (so I don't loose my songs), right?
[11:33] <syn-ack> Dont reinstall.
[11:33] <Zerboxx> :) ok
[11:33] <syn-ack> Im checking bugzilla
[11:34] <closure> Zerboxx, what's wrong with your ubuntu?
[11:34] <TFP> i have a problem with the mplayer-mozilla-plugin, i installed it succesfully and it also starts, but when i want to watch a quicktime stream the video doesn't start, could someone help me?
[11:34] <Zerboxx> closure: it apperas gstreamer isn't all that happy with me
[11:34] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: heres the issue, I think.... https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4821
[11:35] <simba_> salut a tous
[11:36] <simba_> bonjour mon frere est pas la et je voudrais creer un utilisateur
[11:36] <simba_> vous pouvez m'aider
[11:36] <syn-ack> ...
[11:36] <qweqw> wine is disgusting, unless it's from california
[11:36] <simba_> car il est fort en linux mais il est as la
[11:37] <qweqw> i know my french..
[11:37] <syn-ack> simba_: this is an English channel. Do you know english?
[11:37] <closure> Zerboxx, what is gstreamer
[11:37] <qweqw> just kidding
[11:37] <TFP> someone please help me?
[11:37] <qweqw> i hardly know english half the time
[11:37] <qweqw> with?
[11:37] <TFP> i have a problem with the mplayer-mozilla-plugin, i installed it succesfully and it also starts, but when i want to watch a quicktime stream the video doesn't start, could someone help me?
[11:38] <qweqw> you need the quicktime codecs, i imagine
[11:38] <qweqw> does it play audio?
[11:38] <TFP> nop
[11:38] <TFP> i have the whole codec pack downloaded
[11:39] <qweqw> hmm
[11:39] <qweqw> are we talking an embedded video?
[11:40] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: It says it's resolved, but I don't really see a fix...
[11:40] <TFP> yes
[11:40] <TFP> its a quicktime trailer
[11:40] <qweqw> doesn't work for me either
[11:41] <TFP> hm, well back in the days on my old fedora it worked perfectly
[11:41] <Slask3n> Is it possible to munt a CD-image so ubuntu thinks it is a CD-ROM? Like Daemon Tools for Windows does..
[11:41] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: I dont know, all I can say is submit a bug report.
[11:41] <qweqw> yes, sladen
[11:42] <Zerboxx> syn-ack: What information should be included?
[11:42] <qweqw> i dunno, TFP . plugger has never worked for me
[11:42] <TFP> is there a way to configure the mplayer-plugin
[11:42] <syn-ack> Whats going on, output of lspci -vv (all of it) and lsmod (all of it)
[11:43] <qweqw> do they show up in about:plugins
[11:43] <syn-ack> Zerboxx: in as much detail possible.
[11:44] <TFP> yes
[11:44] <TFP> all of them
[11:44] <TFP> for every movie format
[11:44] <syn-ack> With that, Im going to bed
[11:44] <qweqw> oh?
[11:44] <qweqw> same thing with me
[11:45] <Raquen> i've a several problem
[11:45] <TFP> is there another way to play streaming movie within the browser?
[11:45] <Raquen> therar errors on the filesystem
[11:46] <Raquen> how to delete these?
[11:46] <qweqw> i don't think so, TFP
[11:46] <spiral> Raquen: fsck ?
[11:46] <TFP> F*CK
[11:46] <Raquen> si
[11:46] <Raquen> yes
[11:46] <qweqw> let me check freshmeat
[11:48] <hunger> I have kubuntu/breezy installed and now want to add ubuntu-desktop. apt-get says that package has unmet dependencies. What can I do about this?
[11:48] <Raquen> spiral: yes, how to do?
[11:49] <Zerboxx> Ok 2 more quetstions, is there apt-get uninstall?, and if I did something like this: ln -s .... what did that do, and can I backtrack it?
[11:50] <qweqw> apt-get  --purge remove packagename
[11:50] <spiral> Raquen: fsck /dev/hda1 (if device is hda1)
[11:50] <Raquen> secure?
[11:51] <spiral> Raquen: choose the good device, and be sure it's unmounted
[11:51] <qweqw> not a damn thing on freshmeat
[11:52] <qweqw> http://freshmeat.net/projects/dlembed/
[11:52] <qweqw> try that one
[11:53] <TFP> k
[11:53] <TFP> i will
[11:53] <TFP> thx anyway
[11:56] <Zerboxx> So I'm back...and the sound problem has changed :(
[11:56] <Zerboxx> Now ESD works, and OSS doesn't
[11:56] <Zerboxx> alsa still isn't working
[11:56] <closure> Zerboxx, do you not have any sound at all?
[11:57] <closure> or just from gstreamer?
[11:57] <Zerboxx> closure: I have sound, working with ESD, but I'l like ALSA
[11:57] <closure> strange
[11:58] <Zerboxx> very, I followed directions at ubuntuguide, and that made oss work, and nothing else, I undid those steps, and now esd works, and nothing else
[11:59] <drummer87> hi, can someone help me? I need the font 'Helvetica' which is in OOo, to use on a winXP box in InDesign.. but where is the font file located in ubuntu?
[12:01] <jono> hi all
[12:01] <jono> anyone compiled the VMWare modules on Ubuntu?
[12:01] <drummer87> i found some fonts in /usr/share/fonts or something, but couldn't find any others... help, anyone?
[12:03] <ubuask> how can i see information about users and groups on a machine in console mode?
[12:03] <ubuask> and also change a user from a group to another
[12:04] <Tomcat_> drummer87: There's a package for fonts, but I'm not sure you mean that.
[12:04] <Choubaka> jono: They compile just fine.
[12:04] <steved> ubuask: you want to see what groups are set on your machine or what groups your user is a member of ?
[12:05] <jono> Choubaka, not on my stock hoary kernel here
[12:05] <Choubaka> as long as you have linux-headers-`uname -r` installed
[12:05] <ubuask> steved right !
[12:05] <drummer87> Tomcat_: not quite i don't think.. the font is already there in OOo
[12:05] <Tomcat_> drummer87: So you're only trying to find the file to it?
[12:05] <jono> Choubaka, still doesnt work
[12:06] <drummer87> yep
[12:06] <steved> ubuask: to see what groups are set up on the machine look in /etc/group that will list them
[12:06] <Choubaka> then weird.
[12:06] <drummer87> so that i can use it on my winXP box
[12:06] <Tomcat_> drummer87: Search for "font" in synaptic, then go through the installed packages and see what files they installed... maybe you can find your font this way.
[12:06] <Choubaka> You must provide more info.
[12:06] <steved> ubuask: if you want to see what groups your user belongs to type groups
[12:06] <ubuask> steved thanks
[12:06] <drummer87> thanks, will try that
[12:06] <ubuask> steved k
[12:07] <ubuask> steved and to add a new group?
[12:07] <steved> ubuask: groupadd
[12:07] <ubuask> steved kewl thanks
[12:07] <steved> ubuask: best to have a quick read through man group / man groups / man groupadd
[12:12] <karl> anyone know how to install mplayer-586 on hoary as of today?
[12:14] <imPULSIV> hello everybody here
[12:14] <imPULSIV> its me again
[12:14] <imPULSIV> the problemchild from germany
[12:15] <karl> things like mplayer-586: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[12:15] <mpq> something's wrong with sound
[12:15] <karl> are happening to me when I try an install mplayer
[12:15] <mpq> when I open a flash file it doesn't play the sound
[12:16] <Choubaka> karl: you're installing Debian (not Ubuntu) packages :|
[12:16] <imPULSIV> yesterday i had the idea of installing gimpshop wich stands for a mod of the gimp 2.24 with an interface looking like photoshop
[12:16] <karl> choubaka, yeah, that's the marillat repos, I thought they were just meant to work?
[12:16] <imPULSIV> the idea was fine i had but ...
[12:16] <mpq> I need help
[12:16] <Choubaka> karl: they're not entirely ubuntu compatible.
[12:16] <karl> mpq: just digging up the link I think you need.
[12:17] <imPULSIV> after installing the software my whole system doesnt speak prppperly
[12:17] <mpq> what link?
[12:17] <mpq> there isn't always a problem
[12:17] <karl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=149222#post149222
[12:17] <karl> that one :)
[12:17] <imPULSIV> meaning
[12:17] <karl> damnit, that' snot it.
[12:17] <imPULSIV> the language of choice for me as a german would be german but
[12:17] <drummer87> Tomcat_: thanks, i found it .. not quite what i expected (different file type), hope it'll work
[12:18] <karl> mpq: this one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24509
[12:18] <karl> doing the ln worked great for me.
[12:18] <karl> choubaka: so any suggestions on how to install mplayer?
[12:18] <imPULSIV> the thing is after reeboot the systemmessages such as startmenue and so on are in english where
[12:19] <karl> if it was just equal versions, but different names, I'd force it.
[12:19] <imPULSIV> programms such as mozilla still speak german
[12:19] <mpq> will I have to do that every time I boot the computer?
[12:19] <karl> mpq: no. it's permanent
[12:19] <imPULSIV> how may i fix that?
[12:19] <Choubaka> karl: use this source instead: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:19] <Choubaka> afaik it has ubuntu-ised mplayer packages.
[12:19] <karl> choubaka: but it always wants higher versions of libfontconfig1 and libvorbis
[12:20] <Choubaka> hm
[12:20] <karl> yech, I thought the backports stuff was virtually guaranteed to break things.
[12:20] <Choubaka> karl: well, less than installing Debian Sarge/Sid packages from marillat :P
[12:20] <mpq> it didn't work
[12:20] <karl> well, sucks to be you then mpq :)
[12:20] <Choubaka> Get the source and compile a deb yourself? :)
[12:21] <karl> you were getting the pictures but no sound in flash right mpq?
[12:21] <mpq> yeah
[12:21] <karl> well, it worked for me :)
[12:21] <scizzo> imPULSIV: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/HoaryLanguages
[12:21] <Choubaka> just make sure you have all possible -dev files mplayer requires/recommends so you'll get support for all the codecs :P
[12:22] <imPULSIV> scizzo thx for the linkfeed
[12:23] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - is it possible to replace hotplug (at boot time) with coldplug and just use hotplug for actual hotplugging like in gentoo?
[12:23] <mpq> I'm going to try rebooting
[12:26] <imPULSIV> im out
[12:26] <imPULSIV> thx for the help
[12:26] <karl> choubaka: any idea what package this would be?
[12:26] <karl> To compile MPlayer with X11 support, you need to have the XFree86 development
[12:26] <karl>   packages installed.
[12:26] <karl> apt-cache search x dev is unhelpful
[12:27] <Choubaka> xlibs-dev
[12:27] <snowblink> can anyone recommend an IRC server for a LAN?
[12:27] <Choubaka> iirc
[12:27] <Choubaka> snowblink: ircd :D
[12:27] <snowblink> Choubaka, thanks
[12:28] <Choubaka> snowblink: learn to use apt-cache search. :)
[12:28] <Chameleon22> is there a KDE app to creates notes something like chm look ... , i know there is just dont remember the name
[12:28] <snowblink> Choubaka, don't be patronizing. I asked for a recommendation
[12:28] <Riddell> Chameleon22: knotes?
[12:28] <Choubaka> snowblink: :P
[12:29] <Chameleon22> knotes is like small stuff
[12:29] <Chameleon22> i need it to write specifications
[12:30] <Choubaka> Chameleon22: hmm. Learn latex?
[12:31] <Chameleon22> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[12:31] <Chameleon22> Choubaka: dont swear !
[12:31] <Choubaka> no? :D
[12:31] <p0m> Haha. Learning latex.
[12:31] <Chameleon22> no
[12:31] <Choubaka> hey, latex is made for stuff like that.
[12:31] <Chameleon22> well if i had a little gui that was fast ....
[12:31] <p0m> So was postscript.
[12:32] <Choubaka> nowadays people just word and crap like that when they should be using latex.
[12:32] <Choubaka> +use
[12:32] <qweqw> fuck..
[12:32] <Chameleon22> Choubaka: so type in latex mate
[12:33] <qweqw> what are the differenes between the last development branch and the stable release of hoary hedgehog
[12:33] <Choubaka> latex is actually quite simple.
[12:33] <qweqw> i can't see to find  a changelog
[12:33] <Choubaka> qweqw: Hoary is stable :P
[12:33] <Choubaka> whereas breezy will break.
[12:33] <Amaranth> s/will break/is broken/
[12:33] <Choubaka> ok
[12:34] <Amaranth> For certain meanings of broke, anyway.
[12:34] <karl> you could use lyx if you want a front end to latex
[12:34] <slask3n> Why is my internet connection disappearing sometimes? When i surf around on internet my internetconnection suddenly wont connect to internet.. :s it just comes out of the blue without any signs or messages...
[12:34] <Choubaka> "will break worse than you can possibly imagine"
[12:34] <slask3n> is it a bug maybe?
[12:34] <zenwhen> i installed breezy and came home last night to it stealing money out of my stash. its broke alright.
[12:34] <Choubaka> karl: There's also a GTK app called Amyedit.
[12:34] <zenwhen> ;_;
[12:34] <hunger> I have kubuntu/breezy installed and now want to add ubuntu-desktop. apt-get says that package has unmet dependencies. What can I do about this?
[12:34] <Choubaka> I made debian packages for the earlier versions.
[12:34] <karl> or just do it in xml, and write your own xslt for whatever output you want
[12:34] <karl> xml the planet!
[12:35] <ubuask> steved so i did a cat /etc/group and apart from my username and root there a a lot of users like xfs and rpc , what are these and why?
[12:35] <qweqw> i'm talking about the very last development snapshot before hoary hedgehog
[12:35] <p0m> Xslt and xsl-fo is cute.
[12:35] <snowblink> qweqw, the RC?
[12:35] <hypno> Choubaka: feh, latex is 20 years old and designed with the limitations of past systems in mind. it's not inherently better
[12:35] <qweqw> yes
[12:35] <breadcrook> hypno: are you a guru?
[12:35] <Choubaka> hypno: latex isn't meant to do the same as word.
[12:35] <snowblink> qweqw, There were about 150-200MB of updates from the RC to stable
[12:35] <Choubaka> also, word is not meant to do what latex does.
[12:35] <Amaranth> hunger: THis is why you don't use breezy. :)
[12:36] <karl> but you can use each for the other
[12:36] <karl> and there's a shit heap of overlap.
[12:36] <Choubaka> but nowadays Amyedit it's using autotools and crap like that and I don't know how to debianise :(
[12:36] <Amaranth> hunger: The only way to make ubuntu-desktop install in breezy is to disable universe and leave it disabled.
[12:36] <hypno> Choubaka: what does latex do that a wordprocessor doesn't?
[12:36] <breadcrook> does any body here where to get and how to install sound drivers
[12:36] <steved> ubuask: they are used by system software don't need to worry about them
[12:36] <Choubaka> hypno: in latex, you just type the content.
[12:36] <hunger> Amaranth: Yeah, I know:-) But there are so few packages comming into hoary nowadays:-)
[12:36] <karl> *cough*bullshit*cough*
[12:36] <Choubaka> and the compiler takes care of formatting.
[12:37] <hypno> Choubaka: and a load of markup mixed in with your text
[12:37] <Amaranth> hunger: few == zero :)
[12:37] <Amaranth> karl: What is bullshit?
[12:37] <Choubaka> in word, you need to format things yourself.
[12:37] <karl> choubaka :)
[12:37] <breadcrook> does anybody have a clue about sound drivers?
[12:37] <hypno> Choubaka: overfull hbox!
[12:37] <ubuask> steved so do you know a good howto about users , groups and stuff like that? you know , to understand things a little better
[12:37] <qweqw> yes, breadcrook
[12:37] <Choubaka> and then the stuff may not be the same on another machine with the same version of word! .p
[12:37] <breadcrook> can you helpme out
[12:37] <hunger> Amaranth: There is the occassional security fix:-)
[12:37] <qweqw> linuxdoc.org
[12:37] <qweqw> i could try
[12:38] <breadcrook> for ubuntu of course
[12:38] <qweqw> yeah
[12:38] <davix> in the smb.conf, how do I make a share which the files charset/codepage will be cp1255? i've tried charset = cp1255, and codepage = cp1255, it dosent work, any ideas?
[12:38] <Choubaka> hypno: latex markup is simple.
[12:38] <qweqw> did you check the volume, etc
[12:38] <breadcrook> is it packaged some where or do you know a command to run?
[12:38] <breadcrook> yah
[12:38] <qweqw> setmixer is what i use
[12:38] <breadcrook> alrady checked volume
[12:38] <qweqw> on the software mixer
[12:38] <qweqw> ?
[12:39] <hypno> Choubaka: \begin{tabular}[t] {|c|l|c|}!
[12:39] <steved> ubuask: for system admin guides and howto's have a look at www.tldp.org
[12:39] <breadcrook> just using what comes with ubuntu
[12:39] <CarlK> anyone have a VoIP app recomendation - like Skpe, but not skype
[12:39] <qweqw> you got setmixer breadcrook
[12:40] <breadcrook> if i do I don' t know about it
[12:40] <breadcrook> i didn't install it
[12:40] <p0m> CarlK: As in a SIP server, or client?
[12:40] <qweqw> then you most likely don't have it..
[12:40] <qweqw> ok, well, what;s the name of your card
[12:40] <breadcrook> i have sound juicer
[12:40] <CarlK> p0m - client i think
[12:40] <Choubaka> hypno: well, at least you can be sure the table doesn't fuck up when you open it in another program :P
[12:40] <qweqw> sound juicer?
[12:40] <breadcrook> could you tell me where to get it from
[12:40] <Choubaka> unlike word.
[12:40] <p0m> CarlK: Well Asterisk is a server, I'll find a list for you.
[12:40] <steved> ubuask: The Linux System Administrators' Guide would be a good place to start
[12:40] <CarlK> p0m - something that can make cheap land line calls
[12:40] <breadcrook> it is in Ubuntu already
[12:41] <CarlK> a list would be great
[12:41] <p0m> Ahh.
[12:41] <p0m> I'm not sure about the land line calls, but I know of a couple of Voip clients.
[12:41] <qweqw> i wouldn't even know where to start
[12:41] <p0m> You'd have to sign up for a provider for the land line calls.
[12:41] <mjr> CarlK, gnomemeeting is nicely available in Ubuntu, but doesn't support SIP yet, only H323
[12:41] <breadcrook> really
[12:41] <CarlK> http://sipphone.com/minutes/
[12:41] <p0m> CarlK: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Linux
[12:41] <CarlK> looks like for $10 I can get a wad of minuts
[12:42] <p0m> Linphone works well. I've played around with it on my Ipaq 3970, and they're not very powerful :)
[12:42] <qweqw> i'll search for asound juicer
[12:43] <ubuask> steved thanks
[12:43] <qweqw> i don't see anything like that, breadcrook
[12:43] <TFP> which ftp server should i install?
[12:43] <qweqw> does your computer have a brand name?
[12:44] <qweqw> model number?
[12:44] <qweqw> openssh's ftp
[12:44] <qweqw> is good and easy
[12:44] <qweqw> openbsd, that is
[12:44] <p0m> Heh.
[12:44] <CarlK> p0m - thanks - this site is what I was looking for
[12:44] <TFP> openssh has an ftp server?
[12:44] <p0m> Openbsd's ssh server is slow compared to the ones I've used in the past :)
[12:44] <qweqw> openbsd writes a server
[12:44] <p0m> CarlK: No problems.
[12:44] <qweqw> did you run it on openbsd?
[12:45] <p0m> qweqw: No, on my Ubuntu box.
[12:45] <p0m> I suppose that's the problem with using the OpenBSD one on Ubuntu, not as fast as it is on OpenBSD.
[12:45] <qweqw> openbsd is in general slower than most other open-source projects,
[12:46] <qweqw> there's a lot of security built into their applications
[12:46] <p0m> Eh, I'm just spoilt by daemons that respond almost immediately.
[12:46] <p0m> I'm used to the OpenSSH server.
[12:46] <qweqw> yeah, i use it every day
[12:46] <TFP> so which one do you recommend now?
[12:47] <qweqw> openbsd's ftpd
[12:47] <qweqw> modified generic ftpd
[12:47] <p0m> TFP: Go with the OpenBSD one, I'm not sure how well my other choice runs with ubuntu.
[12:47] <TFP> how is it called?
[12:48] <p0m> qweqw: You wouldn't happen to know of a vnc server that actually reads a "vncrc" style file from ~/.vnc instead of /etc/X11/Xsession would you?
[12:48] <p0m> I'm trying to run a lighter gui over VNC than my gnome desktop.
[12:48] <p0m> TFP: Just look under synaptic for "FTP"
[12:49] <p0m> There should be one where hte description mentions that it is the OpenBSD one.
[12:49] <qweqw> not that i know of
[12:49] <p0m> Darn.
[12:49] <p0m> The tightvnc rpm I used on FC3 did that, however none of the VNC debs support it.
[12:50] <p0m> I'll try to figure it out anyhow.
[12:50] <qweqw> on mine, i just make that file in /etc/X11 include one in my home directory.
[12:50] <p0m> Maybe write a howto.
[12:50] <qweqw> it's very simple..
[12:50] <p0m> I normally run openbox + chameleon + perlpanel. Makes for a lighter display over VNC.
[12:51] <qweqw> i took too much X last night, so i'm really really slow
[12:51] <TFP> i can't find it
[12:51] <qweqw> oftpd
[12:51] <qweqw> ?
[12:52] <qweqw> alright then
[12:52] <karl> hmm ok, so I've built my own mplayer, but I don't get any sound
[12:53] <qweqw> ok..
[12:53] <qweqw> p0m, all you have to do is make sure the file in your home directory is executable
[12:54] <qweqw> if not, chmod +x file
[12:54] <p0m> Hmm.
[12:54] <qweqw> put exec /path/to/file in Xsession
[12:54] <qweqw> near where it initializes variables
[12:55] <p0m> So I just copy the /etc/X11/Xsession file to home, modify it to run the other programs?
[12:55] <qweqw> yeah
[12:55] <qweqw> you can delete the contents of X11, but leave a backup
[12:55] <p0m> Would be nice if /etx/X11/Xsession actually contained some exec listings :)
[12:55] <karl> what did I misconfigure for mplayer to have disabled the alsa and esd output audio drivers?
[12:55] <p0m> But I'll figure it out.
[12:55] <qweqw> er.. Xsession
[12:56] <karl> it only included oss, and I think that's why I don't have any sound.
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> karl: mplayer -ao esd
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> karl: mplayer -ao alsa
[12:56] <Laubzega> hi. where should I get mplayer for ubuntu?
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> those will give you the other outputs
[12:56] <qweqw> it might.. VNC is kind of hard to get working on linux
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> there is also a default set in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> qweqw: you mean apt-get install vlc doesn't work? :)
[12:56] <karl> well, this was a tthe configure stage, it didn't include them.
[12:56] <qweqw> it works
[12:56] <p0m> VNC works fine now, it's just a matter of tweaking what runs for me.
[12:57] <qweqw> well, by following my advice you would get nothing..
[12:57] <karl> so no, -ao esd or alsa don't give me any sound :)
[12:57] <qweqw> what does it matter if it's in /etc/X11 or not?
[12:57] <qweqw> just curious
[12:57] <CarlK> why vnc and not X over ssh?
[12:57] <p0m> I don't think so.
[12:57] <karl> vnc is a lot more portable
[12:58] <karl> you don't need to have an x server locally
[12:58] <qweqw> yes you do
[12:58] <CarlK> lol
[12:58] <p0m> vnc.conf seems to support changing the particular file to read for exec.
[12:58] <CarlK> that makes some sense
[12:58] <karl> I mean locally, where you're trying to get to the session from.
[12:58] <p0m> I'll tinker with that and let you know what I get.
[12:58] <CarlK> that = karl's comments
[12:58] <karl> of course you need an xserver at one point.
[12:58] <qweqw> good luck..
[12:58] <karl> but with x over ssh, yo uneed x at both ends.
[12:59] <karl> with vnc you can have whatever you like at each end.
[12:59] <CarlK> you don't need X for win side ;)
[12:59] <Ed_Gein> urgent help needed
[12:59] <p0m> karl: And if the other machine is using windows, you'll need an ssh client and an X server.
[12:59] <p0m> And X servers are few and far between for Windows :)
[12:59] <karl> p0m: I know, that's why I was saying vnc is more portable :)
[12:59] <karl> you may have meant for that to be aimed at someone else :)
[12:59] <p0m> I'm just supporting your argument :)
[12:59] <qweqw> i couldn't find a single decent Xfree86 implementation for windows
[01:00] <CarlK> I got x.org on cygwin working, but I was more thingking for Linux on both sides
[01:00] <nopea> looking for some advice on a good PHP editor - any suggestions?
[01:00] <karl> carlk: x over ssh is a lot more secure,
[01:00] <karl> but I'd still go for vnc anyday.
[01:00] <HrdwrBoB> vnc is portable
[01:00] <HrdwrBoB> but slow
[01:00] <p0m> qweqw: WinAXE is allright. It's free, but you can only do 30 minute long sessions before you have to restart the x server.
[01:00] <HrdwrBoB> incredibly so
[01:00] <karl> I see too many people asking "how do I do this again? -L blah:port -X -g hatehatehhate!"
[01:01] <Ed_Gein> I just woke up to and there are 2 widgets open(?) I says couldn't grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session. The 2nd is changing user enter your password to run /usr/binfirestarter. Any help?
[01:01] <karl> vnc doesn't have to be slow.
[01:01] <qweqw> i might check that out..
[01:01] <karl> I used to use a vnc session as my primary work environement every day at work.
[01:01] <karl> plenty fast enough.
[01:01] <karl> fvwm2, and the machine was only a building or two away
[01:01] <CarlK> assuming Linux on both sides, 500k (dsl, slow cable) connection - how is the performace of vnc compare to X over ssh?
[01:01] <qweqw> there's is a barely noticeable lag on my VNC
[01:01] <qweqw> tightvnc.
[01:01] <qweqw> the original vnc is slow as hell
[01:03] <Ed_Gein> I just woke up to and there are 2 widgets open(?) the first says couldn't grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session. The 2nd is changing user enter your password to run /usr/bin/firestarter. Any help?
[01:03] <qweqw> uhh..
[01:03] <p0m> Ed_Gein: The second one sounds like you've tried to run Firestarter, which is a front end for your firewall (iptables)
[01:03] <karl> so anyone know how to tell mplayer to enable esd/alsa at the ./configure stage?
[01:03] <qweqw> what are you using, Ed_Gein ?
[01:04] <Ed_Gein> ubuntu firestarter was running when I went to slpeep
[01:04] <CarlK> karl - you aren't karl D in FL, are you?
[01:04] <karl> no, karlp in .is
[01:05] <karl> sif you'd live in fl
[01:05] <topyli> karl: try ./configure --help
[01:05] <CarlK> sif?
[01:05] <p0m> CarlK: sif = "As If"
[01:05] <CarlK> fl is a nice place to visit, but too hot, stcky and bugs
[01:06] <CarlK> lol
[01:06] <CarlK> exacty
[01:06] <p0m> I prefer AU over fl.
[01:06] <karl> topyli: there's only --disable-alsa and --disable-esd.
[01:06] <TFP> how do i get webmin to work? i get an error "Error - Access denied for <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:06] <karl> fla wasn't even a nice place to visit in my opinion.
[01:06] <TFP> i just installed it
[01:06] <karl> .au is great too.
[01:06] <CarlK> I 'think' if there is --disable-X, there will be --enable-X
[01:07] <p0m> .au is horrible in the summer. And it is horrible here right now, lots of rain and storms.
[01:07] <CarlK> p0m - at least the world dosn't laugh at you ;)
[01:07] <maltje> where are the channels?
[01:08] <p0m> Actually, they do, but eh.
[01:08] <karl> pom: where in .au are you?
[01:08] <karl> no rain at all in qld.
[01:08] <CarlK> karl - #mplayer is a good place
[01:08] <maltje> how can I chance?
[01:08] <p0m> karl: You're kidding me, right? North brisbane's been getting blasted with rain today.
[01:08] <Ed_Gein> any help?
[01:08] <topyli> karl: so, the defaults should be to enable them. i take it they aren't enabled though?
[01:09] <nopea> is there an SSH client in Ubuntu?
[01:09] <karl> today maybe,
[01:09] <CarlK> karl - to see what you got: mplayer -ao help
[01:09] <karl> but not all of summer
[01:09] <CarlK> nopea - ssh
[01:09] <p0m> Ed_Gein: From what I can tell, there shouldn't be anything to worry about. The second one sounds familiar, and the first error sounds like your keyboard/mouse popped out.
[01:09] <karl> topyli: no, --enable-alsa/esd has now enabled esd, and I'm rebuilding, but it says no alsa.
[01:09] <maltje> anyone uses bittornado?
[01:10] <maltje> I installed it using synaptic,but I can't find it
[01:11] <p0m> maltje: Try "Run Command" and then typing it in there.
[01:11] <Ed_Gein> p0m: even with the changing user thing? There's only one user account on this system.
[01:11] <p0m> Ed_Gein: Firestarter usually has to be run as Root, to be able to interface with iptables, so I'm guessing it was sudo'ing to root.
[01:12] <Ed_Gein> why would it restart on its own?
[01:12] <maltje> won't work
[01:12] <p0m> Ed_Gein: Just to be sure, check your users config, to see if there are any other users.
[01:12] <maltje> have to tell that I'm a newbie
[01:12] <p0m> Ed_Gein: Not sure, there are sometimes random errors that occur.
[01:12] <p0m> Anyhow, I've got to head off now.
[01:12] <maltje> when I do "where is" bittornado I only get the word "bittornado" back
[01:13] <p0m> Good luck Ed_Gein
[01:13] <topyli> karl: hm. perhaps if you use esd it will use alsa for mplayer too? i don't know
[01:13] <p0m> maltje: Try find / -name bittorn*
[01:13] <p0m> It should list everywhere it finds a match.
[01:13] <Ed_Gein> P0m /etc/where do I find users
[01:13] <karl> topyli: I'll let you know when it finishes building again :)
[01:14] <p0m> Ed_Gein: /etc/passwd
[01:14] <maltje> bittorent does not exist
[01:14] <karl> hmm, I think I must have been missing alsadev and esddev
[01:14] <maltje> starnge
[01:14] <karl> esd.h not found.
[01:14] <maltje> strange
[01:14] <p0m> Ed_Gein: Either that, or the built in user config tools work fine.
[01:14] <p0m> Anyhow, zzzzz.
[01:15] <Ed_Gein> not sure what I should be looking for in here
[01:16] <karl> yep, libasound2-dev and libesd0-dev and now it detects alsa and esd
[01:17] <slask3n> What can it be that makes my internetocnnection unavailable.. it just wont connect suddenly, but the network and everything looks fine... i can be surfing and suddenly it cant "talk" with the internet.. :s I have lost the connection 4 times today already, 3 times the last 2 hours... :s
[01:17] <liable> maltje: try 'dpkg -L bittornado'
[01:19] <topyli> karl: happy mplaying :)
[01:20] <karl> how can I find out the complete name of a package>
[01:20] <karl> dpkg -l shows the truncated name
[01:20] <karl> and I cant' work out what the full name is to remove it with
[01:20] <liable> karl: dpkg -l columns=200 or some such
[01:20] <slask3n> Please answer! Its urgent i dont know when i loose connection again...   What can it be that makes my internetocnnection unavailable.. it just wont connect suddenly, but the network and everything looks fine... i can be surfing and suddenly it cant "talk" with the internet.. :s I have lost the connection 4 times today already, 3 times the last 2 hours... :s
[01:21] <mpq> I did that thing that's supposed to fix the sound in flash
[01:21] <maltje> that gives a lot of things on the screen
[01:21] <mpq> it sort of worked but now the sound lags
[01:21] <mpq> it plays after it's supposed to
[01:21] <maltje> /usr/......
[01:22] <nopea> ok somebody has got to know a good PHP editor :)
[01:22] <Ed_Gein> in etc/passwd I have the following entry is this normal? 'nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/bash"
[01:22] <liable> maltje: normally /usr/sbin or /usr/bin
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btcompletedir.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btcopyannounce
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btdownloadheadless.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btlaunchmany.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btmakemetafile.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btreannounce.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btrename.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btsethttpseeds
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/btshowmetainfo.bittornado
[01:23] <maltje> /usr/bin/bttrack.bittornado
[01:23] <karl> liable: you have to actually resize your term, or export the columns I think, there's no option to pass in :)
[01:23] <maltje> thats some lines
[01:23] <topyli> aargh! stop it
[01:24] <topyli> Ed_Gein: yes
[01:24] <karl> ahh, sound
[01:24] <karl> no of course, I wish I hadn't built alsa as well.
[01:24] <karl> because it's defaulting to alsa, which doesn't work :)
[01:25] <karl> but -ao esd does.
[01:25] <mpq> what is esd?
[01:25] <qweqw> sound daemon
[01:25] <mjr> it's a sound daemon that serves the low-level sound device to multiple clients
[01:25] <mjr> optionally over the network
[01:26] <qweqw> it does that, yeah
[01:26] <mpq> flash still isn't working right
[01:26] <topyli> mpq: the question is: WHY is esd :)
[01:26] <mpq> there's sound now but it's late
[01:27] <karl> well, all that to watch what turns out to be a fairly boring .wmv
[01:27] <qweqw> ahh..
[01:27] <topyli> heh
[01:27] <qweqw> i get it now.
[01:28] <qweqw> the xchat colors are horrible
[01:28] <mpq> I like xchat colors
[01:28] <liable> maltje: have you installed bitornado-gui
[01:28] <keikoz> qweqw that's sure
[01:29] <keikoz> maybee some themes on the net
[01:30] <qweqw> yeah..
[01:30] <qweqw> might go back to irssi
[01:31] <davegahan> I crashed while booting into GNOME, my whole system froze, could only enter GNOME after choosing "fail-safe" from the session manager
[01:31] <davegahan> what do I do now
[01:31] <goldfish> irssi !
[01:31] <maltje> no ,only tornado
[01:31] <davegahan> fail-safe disables all startup scripts
[01:32] <davegahan> anyone that can advise ?
[01:32] <maltje> bbittornado-gui wasn't in synaptic
[01:32] <liable> maltje: should be
[01:32] <maltje> yes indeed
[01:33] <maltje> my mistake
[01:33] <maltje> it is also installed
[01:33] <karl> is there a mplayer firefox plugin?
[01:33] <karl> so I can watch wmv on pages, instead of having to download htem to watch them?
[01:33] <liable> maltje: you dont have a menu tab for it? what are you trying to do anyway?
[01:34] <maltje> strange,everything else works fine
[01:34] <mpq> flash is still screwed up
[01:34] <maltje> when I go into the "startmenu" i go to "internet"
[01:34] <qweqw> adobe better come out with a 64 bit version of flash
[01:35] <maltje> every program like limewire and azureus are there
[01:35] <maltje> but NO bittornado
[01:35] <liable> maltje: try updating your menu
[01:35] <maltje> Have I got to start ubuntu again?
[01:35] <mjr> hmm, now that flash has switched owners, might be a time to plug freeing the flash viewer to the new owner
[01:36] <maltje> killall gname.....?????
[01:36] <maltje> I did that
[01:36] <maltje> gnome....
[01:36] <qweqw> maltje, you should never have to restart it unless you are making changes to the kernel..
[01:36] <karl> (or the kernel goes boom! like mine)
[01:36] <slask3n> Please answer! Its urgent i dont know when i loose connection again...   What can it be that makes my internetocnnection unavailable.. it just wont connect suddenly, but the network and everything looks fine... i can be surfing and suddenly it cant "talk" with the internet.. :s I have lost the connection 4 times today already, 3 times the last 2 hours... :s
[01:36] <qweqw> or in the event of a kernel panic
[01:36] <liable> maltje: isnt there a menu updating thing in gnome?
[01:36] <qweqw> ;0
[01:36] <karl> auto text sucks slask
[01:37] <karl> and it's probably not a linux problem
[01:37] <qweqw> maltje,
[01:37] <maltje> don't know
[01:37] <qweqw> er..
[01:37] <slask3n> karl, auto text?
[01:37] <maltje> yes qweqw
[01:37] <davegahan> anyone here with a good knowledge of GNOME - my system crashes while botting into GNOME
[01:38] <qweqw> i had a solution for you
[01:38] <qweqw> but then i forgot it
[01:38] <maltje> oeps
[01:38] <karl> that was the exact same message you posted 15 minutes ago
[01:38] <qweqw> oh yeah
[01:38] <qweqw> open a terminal window
[01:38] <davegahan> failsafe session gets me into GNOME, where do i find the startup scripts ?
[01:38] <maltje> y
[01:38] <slask3n> karl, and yes it is! my other computer works fine, but this ones disconnects... :s i need to reboot and then its working fine again...
[01:38] <qweqw> type at the prompt: whereis bttornada
[01:38] <qweqw> o
[01:38] <qweqw> at the end, instead of a
[01:38] <maltje> done that
[01:38] <qweqw> oh yeah?
[01:39] <qweqw> before just now?
[01:39] <maltje> it gives
[01:39] <maltje> bittornado:
[01:39] <scizzo> davegahan: look for errors in .xsession-errors or something
[01:39] <maltje> thats all
[01:39] <qweqw> type in bttornado instead
[01:40] <maltje> btornado:
[01:40] <topyli> davegahan: you could creating another user and see if gnome works for it. if so, then it's your settings that's to blame
[01:40] <qweqw> two ts
[01:40] <qweqw> bttornado
[01:40] <maltje> bttornado:
[01:40] <maltje> sorry
[01:40] <qweqw> sudo updatedb
[01:40] <maltje> yes
[01:40] <qweqw> you done that yet?
[01:40] <slask3n> karl, do you know what it can be, or are you just complaining becouse people use the channel for what its made for?
[01:40] <maltje> yep
[01:40] <qweqw> damn.
[01:40] <liable> maltje: 'ls /usr/bin | grep bit*'
[01:40] <maltje> not the update
[01:40] <maltje> i try it
[01:40] <maltje> one moment
[01:40] <qweqw> ok
[01:41] <karl> i don't know what your problem is, it's unlikely that anyone else will from the information you've given, and I also object to you using the exact same text again.
[01:41] <goldfish> hi guys, any time i try to run cd player, and rhythmbox is asks me to run gst-register, and when i run that i get command not found :/
[01:41] <maltje> hes updating now
[01:41] <qweqw> it might take awhile if you've got a lot of files
[01:41] <maltje> takes a time
[01:41] <qweqw> i'm about to go get some pepsi
[01:41] <topyli> naah, it's ok to repeat a question once in a while to see if experts have gathered around. but of course the question must be sane
[01:42] <qweqw> locate bt, locate bitt, locate tornado
[01:42] <qweqw> try those to start out with
[01:42] <maltje> ok its done
[01:42] <topyli> like, has anybody gotten p3nfs to work properly? i've been asking that for months :)
[01:42] <karl> but are you going to ask again in 15minutes?
[01:43] <davegahan> topyli, where do I find my startup scripts - settings ?
[01:43] <maltje> he found a lot of bittornado files
[01:43] <maltje> @liable just type that in the console???
[01:43] <liable> maltje:yes
[01:44] <qweqw> what are the paths
[01:44] <yfir> karl, chill out
[01:44] <maltje> btcompletedir.bittornado
[01:44] <maltje> btcompletedir.bittorrent
[01:44] <maltje> btcompletedirgui.bittornado
[01:44] <maltje> btdownloadcurses.bittornado
[01:44] <maltje> btdownloadcurses.bittorrent
[01:44] <maltje> btdownloadgui.bittornado
[01:44] <maltje> btdownloadheadless.bittornado
[01:44] <maltje> btdownloadheadless.bittorrent
[01:44] <maltje> btlaunchmany.bittornado
[01:45] <qweqw> there it is
[01:45] <maltje> btlaunchmany.bittorrent
[01:45] <maltje> btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado
[01:45] <maltje> btlaunchmanycurses.bittorrent
[01:45] <maltje> btmakemetafile.bittornado
[01:45] <maltje> btmakemetafile.bittorrent
[01:45] <maltje> btreannounce.bittornado
[01:45] <maltje> btreannounce.bittorrent
[01:45] <maltje> btrename.bittornado
[01:45] <maltje> btrename.bittorrent
[01:45] <maltje> btshowmetainfo.bittornado
[01:45] <Burgundavia> maltje, ahh, please don't flood
[01:45] <maltje> btshowmetainfo.bittorrent
[01:45] <maltje> bttrack.bittornado
[01:45] <maltje> bttrack.bittorrent
[01:45] <topyli> davegahan: what's failing is probably gnome-session. i'm not sure where its settings live. does gnome work for a virgin user?
[01:45] <slask3n> karl, i need answer, so i probably will ask again.. the fact that i use the same text 2 times i undestand, but i dont wanted to write it all again.. but i do rewrite it, and i dont use any autotext either...
[01:45] <maltje> fribidi
[01:45] <goldfish> oh my god.
[01:45] <maltje> gnome-accessibility-keyboard-properties
[01:45] <maltje> gnome-keybinding-properties
[01:45] <maltje> xpdf.bin
[01:45] <topyli> maltje: please
[01:45] <maltje> that's what I get
[01:45] <maltje> /usr/share and /usr/bin
[01:45] <maltje> sorry topyli
[01:45] <topyli> karl: i'll ask next week or so :)
[01:45] <davegahan> GNOME works fail-safe, thats without any startup script running
[01:45] <maltje> won't happen again
[01:45] <qweqw> whereis btdownloadcurses.bittornado
[01:45] <yfir> maltje: can you do that in #flood next time
[01:45] <karl> btdownloadgui.bittornado try that one
[01:46] <qweqw> you've got them installed, at least
[01:46] <qweqw> whereis btdownload.bittornado
[01:46] <maltje> yfir that I do not understand
[01:46] <topyli> maltje: just a hint: use #flood. it's made for flooding :)
[01:46] <qweqw> whereis btdownloadgui.bittornado
[01:46] <bezibaerchen> how do i change default encoding from utf-8 to iso-8859-15?
[01:46] <amichai> can someone tell me if kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde or if its a total different setup, because it seems to work differently than ubuntu
[01:46] <karl> bezi: you don't want to! make your friends use utf8 as well!
[01:46] <qweqw> type that, maltje.. remember the path, in case you want to put a launcher on your desktop
[01:47] <yfir> maltje: it's a channel for making posts like yours
[01:47] <bezibaerchen> karl: i WANT to ;-)
[01:47] <snader> bezibaerchen: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:47] <bezibaerchen> snader: thx
[01:47] <karl> well, I'm not helping then :) (and I don't really know how to)
[01:47] <topyli> karl: utf-8 will save the children of the world, but for now much of the internet still don't use it
[01:47] <maltje> /usr/bin/.....
[01:47] <maltje> there are the files
[01:48] <maltje> shit I have to go to work in 5 min.
[01:48] <karl> topyli: yes yes I know, but if we all say, not now, it will never happen
[01:48] <qweqw> btdownloadgui.bittornado
[01:48] <qweqw> is the file you want
[01:48] <topyli> karl: exactly
[01:48] <qweqw> work!
[01:48] <qweqw> work sucks
[01:48] <maltje> I know
[01:48] <qweqw> i have go in an hour
[01:48] <maltje> but I need the money
[01:48] <topyli> karl: it's a big problem on finnish channels and elsewhere where people actually use non-ascii characters
[01:48] <maltje> what have I got to do with the file??
[01:49] <qweqw> i suppose you could create a launcher somewhere on your desktop
[01:49] <karl> topyli: I use non english characters every day, I'm aware of this :)
[01:49] <qweqw> for easy clicking
[01:49] <qweqw> then
[01:49] <bezibaerchen> i prefer utf8, but the majority doesnt use it, and i dont like boxes instead of german "Umlauten"
[01:49] <karl> it's a problem in irc, and things that don't have encoding support,
[01:49] <bezibaerchen> ;-)
[01:49] <topyli> karl: oh yeah, i should pay attention to your nick :)
[01:49] <karl> I have xchat set to use latin1 where I need it.
[01:49] <liable> maltje: just type 'usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittornado'    what happens
[01:49] <karl> but use utf8 for things by default
[01:49] <qweqw> try to download a .torrent file from your web-browser.. associate btdownloadgui.bittornado with files that end in torrent
[01:49] <topyli> karl: same here
[01:49] <karl> so far chat has been the only place I need it.
[01:50] <slask3n> karl: do you know what information i need to specify then? i was running GAIM, and Firefox with 3 tabs.. and was surfing around when the computer couldnt connect to the server... i just get timeout on everything i do.. it comes right out of the blue...just like somebodsy disconnected the cable but the cable isnt touched... and ubuntu seems to be the exactly same as before, the network connections are working and all, it just cant "talk" w
[01:50] <slask3n> ith the internet... any ideas?
[01:50] <qweqw> other than that, maltje .. nothing more to say
[01:50] <maltje> OKIDOKI I think its working
[01:50] <maltje> I got something on my screen now
[01:50] <topyli> karl: even on irc, i actually need latin1 only on ircnet, where most of the finnish channels are
[01:50] <qweqw> just remember the path to the bittorent gui..
[01:50] <maltje> this evening I gonna test it
[01:51] <qweqw>  /usr/bin , in this case
[01:51] <Diablo-D3> hey guys
[01:51] <maltje> but it looks like azureus is it the same??
[01:51] <karl> yeah, freenode is all happy and utf isn't it?
[01:51] <fragspaz> where can i get some apt-get repositories
[01:51] <liable> maltje: ok, follow qweqw advice and associate .torrents with that in your browser
[01:51] <karl> or at least osme channels are.
[01:51] <fragspaz> for enlightenment?
[01:51] <topyli> i guess
[01:51] <Diablo-D3> does ubuntu use grub by default?
[01:51] <yfir> maltje: you don't need to run a gui for bittornado. just click on a .torrent in your browser and btdownload should take over
[01:51] <maltje> but I also got azureus
[01:51] <fragspaz> where can i get some apt-get repositories for enlightenment?
[01:52] <maltje> so the 2 progs are gonna open not??
[01:52] <fragspaz> any one know?
[01:52] <qweqw> they aren't in universe?
[01:53] <karl> they are for me.
[01:53] <yfir> fragspaz: enable universe/multiverse
[01:53] <maltje> thnx for everything
[01:53] <maltje> gottogo
[01:54] <qweqw> see ya
[01:54] <maltje> until this evening
[01:54] <bezibaerchen> hmm
[01:54] <bezibaerchen> still got utf-8 as default in my terminal :-/
[01:54] <bezibaerchen> any hints?
[01:55] <com64> hi
[01:55] <fragspaz> yfir: what doe that mean?
[01:55] <goldfish> Anyone here ever use workbone?
[01:55] <com64> could anyone help me on some matter at ubuntu ?
[01:55] <looksaus> hi all, I have a problem with OOo on an up-to-date hoary system
[01:55] <DanglyBits> i have an extra computer that i want to use as development only...how do i upgrade to breezy badger from Hoary?
[01:56] <looksaus> everywhare I type, no problem entering the "" character, except from OpenOffice.org
[01:56] <Diablo-D3> change your sources.list
[01:56] <goldfish> com64: ask away im sure someone can help
[01:56] <pointwood> what is the best CD ripper program=
[01:56] <pointwood> * ?
[01:56] <Diablo-D3> DanglyBits: change your sources.list
[01:56] <Diablo-D3> DanglyBits: from hoary to breezy
[01:56] <DanglyBits> change source.list to what?
[01:56] <looksaus> I can paste an "" into openoffice though
[01:57] <DanglyBits> just use the words breezy everwhere hoary is?
[01:57] <Diablo-D3> yup
[01:57] <looksaus> DanglyBits, change the references to hoary into breezy, yes
[01:57] <fragspaz> where is 'universe/multiverse''
[01:57] <karl> hmm, I type  my special chars into oowriter the same way I type them into terminals or anywhere else.
[01:57] <com64> have adsl modem connecting internet with ethernet card davicom 9102/a but its not working with dhclient not getting modem page from browser :(
[01:57] <Diablo-D3> DanglyBits: and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:57] <karl> sorry looksaus :(
[01:57] <syn-ack> Are you sure you want to go to Breezy?
[01:57] <Diablo-D3> DanglyBits: btw, breezy is known to be unstable atm
[01:57] <Diablo-D3> DanglyBits: more than it should be, I mean
[01:57] <syn-ack> I wouldnt suggest it unless you know what you're doing
[01:57] <looksaus> DanglyBits, it's still a little rough around the edges, yes
[01:57] <megamind> what is alternate command for ipconfig in ubuntoo ?
[01:58] <Diablo-D3> megamind: what is ubuntoo?
[01:58] <yfir> fragspaz: please read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:58] <syn-ack> ifconfig
[01:58] <megamind> linux
[01:58] <looksaus> if you don't know how to update the sources list, this will probably do more bad than good
[01:58] <Diablo-D3> megamind: linux is just a kernel.
[01:58] <megamind> thanks
[01:58] <com64> tryed all thing but not getting ip adress of modem
[01:58] <fragspaz> thanks yfir
[01:58] <com64> thats why cant configure my username and etc. from modem page
[01:58] <goldfish> Please link /dev/cdrom to your CDROM device before running workbone.
[01:58] <goldfish> how would i do that?
[01:59] <Diablo-D3> goldfish: its probably already done for you
[01:59] <goldfish> oh right
[01:59] <goldfish> thanks
[01:59] <DanglyBits> should i just add all of the breezy lines lin osurce.list or convert the hoary ones there to breezy?
[01:59] <yfir> fragspaz: after you've done that and enabled the universe and multiverse repositories, update your package lists with synaptic or apt, and you'll be able to find the enlightenment packages
[01:59] <Diablo-D3> goldfish: ls -al /dev/cdrom should point at your first cdrom drive
[01:59] <yfir> *apt-get, sorry
[01:59] <DanglyBits> should i just add all of the breezy lines in source.list or convert the hoary ones there to breezy?
[01:59] <goldfish> No such file or directory.
[02:00] <looksaus> so, anyone about my problem with "" in OOo? or a pointer to where I should start looking?
[02:00] <fragspaz> yfir, thanks
[02:00] <syn-ack> DanglyBits: DONT DO IT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!

[02:00] <Diablo-D3> yeah, listen to syn-ack
[02:00] <syn-ack> DanglyBits: Im still tracking bugs in Breezy down
[02:00] <CarlK> DanglyBits, no.
[02:01] <slask3n> karl: not for nagging, but can you please help me? or any ideas of what can do this?
[02:01] <karl> umm, no?
[02:01] <Diablo-D3> syn-ack: heh, I'm still trying to figure out how to file bugs for universe packages
[02:01] <yfir> DanglyBits: unless you are a tester, wait a few months. but if you want to test breezy and don't mind a possibly unstable system, knock yourself out
[02:01] <karl> I don't know, and there's 502 other peopl here
[02:02] <Diablo-D3> 507 other people, karl
[02:02] <karl> I was showing 505 total at the time :)
[02:02] <goldfish> Diablo-D3: ls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory
[02:02] <goldfish> any ideas? :/
[02:02] <yfir> goldfish: try hdc
[02:02] <syn-ack> Diablo-D3: Heh, Ive going some things here like libaspell that Im tracking... broke a few things like Pan and Bluefish so far
[02:03] <Diablo-D3> goldfish: what device is your cdrom? /dev/hdc?
[02:03] <goldfish> brw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22, 0 2005-04-27 02:59 /dev/hdc
[02:03] <goldfish> YEP
[02:03] <goldfish> woops.
[02:03] <goldfish> Aye, hdc.
[02:03] <Diablo-D3> sudo ln -s /dev/hdc/ /dev/cdrom/
[02:03] <Diablo-D3> err
[02:03] <Diablo-D3> sudo ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
[02:03] <goldfish> cool, thanks
[02:04] <com64> have davicom ethnernet card connecting internet through adsl modem pikatel quarlet ... but when i try dhclient eth0 it should get the modem configure page ip adresses at least... but its not working thats why not getting the modem configure page and not getting any ip adresses ... i tryed to give it manually with ifconfig ... but its does not worked also ... could some one tell me what i should  to do on that matter
[02:04] <syn-ack> Also, I wish the upstream devs would fix the sk98lin module already
[02:05] <synd> how do i set ndiswrapper to load upon boot?
[02:05] <Quazion> whats the multiseat during install of ubuntu ? i just got a multiseat error
[02:05] <megamind> where can i find wvdial.conf
[02:06] <megamind> can some one plz guide me that where can i find wvdial.conf
[02:06] <Mwnci> I have just swapped from debian to ubuntu but during setup it never requested a root password. it did ask for a normal user. is there a default password for root I have to change or have I missed the screen?
[02:07] <Burgundavia> Mwnci, Ubuntu uses sudo by default for everthing
[02:07] <Diablo-D3> syn-ack: so, how the hell do I file bugs for universe packages?
[02:07] <syn-ack> Mwnci: Thats because Ubuntu doesnt use root by defualt
[02:07] <Burgundavia> Mwnci, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[02:07] <Diablo-D3> ubuntu doesnt even have root by default, does it/
[02:07] <Burgundavia> Diablo-D3, you need malone --> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:08] <syn-ack> Diablo-D3: it does... automagically scrambled
[02:08] <yfir> megamind: probably /etc/wvdial.conf unless it hasn't been created yet
[02:08] <qweqw> sudo bash
[02:08] <Burgundavia> there is no root password, which makes it off
[02:08] <qweqw> for a root shell
[02:08] <yfir> sudo -s
[02:08] <com64> any1 here is experienced adsl modems on ubuntu ever ?
[02:08] <laue> i have cpu frequency scaling running on an athlon k7, but now i want to change the governor automatically at boot
[02:08] <laue> anyone know how?
[02:09] <qweqw> the governor?
[02:09] <laue> qweqw: yes, the governor: ondemand, performance, powersave or userspace
[02:09] <syn-ack> Wow, I didnt even know about lauchpad.
[02:09] <Diablo-D3> syn-ack: ooh
[02:09] <Diablo-D3> yes, wtf is launchpad
[02:09] <Diablo-D3> bugzilla apparently points there now
[02:09] <Mwnci> thanks  ill use sudo then :)
[02:09] <megamind> nops can not find wvmdial.conf in /etc/ ! ?
[02:09] <jsgotangco> Diablo-D3, launchpad is the future man
[02:10] <Diablo-D3> btw, for the record, my machine is a debian machine upgraded to ubuntu
[02:10] <bezibaerchen> asking again: anyone any ideas regarding my locale-problem?
[02:10] <yfir> bezibaerchen: what is your locale problem?
[02:11] <bezibaerchen> yfir: did a dpkg-reconfigure locale-gen and deselected any utf-8 stuff. but if i open a console, default is still utf-8 and i need to switch to iso manually
[02:12] <synd> how do i set ndiswrapper to load upon boot?
[02:12] <Diablo-D3> bezibaerchen: you should always be using utf8 anyhow
[02:12] <bezibaerchen> Diablo-D3: no flaming now, i want iso ;-)
[02:12] <Diablo-D3> unicode is the future!
[02:13] <bezibaerchen> future perhaps, but not presence, and thats the problem
[02:13] <Diablo-D3> I dunno, I've been doing the unicode dance for years now
[02:14] <bezibaerchen> yfir: ideas?
[02:14] <Diablo-D3> and it doesnt seem to have borken anything yet
[02:14] <yfir> bezibaerchen: not sure. you could try the package 'localconf'
[02:14] <bezibaerchen> Diablo-D3: i am chatting via screen and irssi on a remote host. if i use utf-8, german umlauts etc are recked. so i NEED iso
[02:14] <yfir> bezibaerchen: but if dpkg-recongifure locales doesn't work, i'm not certain localconf would either. worth a try perhaps
[02:14] <maswan> Diablo-D3: Yes, but you are not likely to depend on interacting in a language requiring iso.
[02:14] <Diablo-D3> maswan: nope ;)
[02:15] <qweqw> wtf, i've never heard of any computer device that is called a governor
[02:15] <Diablo-D3> anyhow, how the hell do I use launchpad?
[02:15] <mjr> bezibaerchen, screen can convert a single window's charset
[02:15] <com64> could not get help but thank ... good luck all
[02:15] <mjr> ^A:utf8 off turns utf-8 off for a window
[02:15] <bezibaerchen> mjr: the problem is the console, not screen ;-)
[02:15] <syn-ack> Diablo-D3: just check it out.. its like anyother bugzilla
[02:15] <mjr> bezibaerchen, nah, you're just solving the problem from the wrong place :
[02:16] <yfir> so, how does one configure gtk themes without gnome?
[02:16] <Diablo-D3> well, mainly, how do I file a bug on a package that doesnt exist yet?
[02:16] <Diablo-D3> yfir: install just gnome-control-center
[02:16] <yfir> Diablo-D3: ok... was trying to avoid that, but if it's the only way...
[02:16] <bezibaerchen> yfir: unknown command utf-8
[02:16] <bezibaerchen> mjr: i mean ;-)
[02:16] <Diablo-D3> yfir: well, theres other methods, but due to braindamage in both gtk and gnome, it doesnt work well
[02:17] <Diablo-D3> for the record, I hate gnome.
[02:17] <yfir> Diablo-D3: thanks. i guess all i needed to know was whether there is another (simple) way besides gnome-control-center.
[02:17] <yfir> I'm trying to remove all the gnomes...
[02:17] <Diablo-D3> I actually wish kcontrol had a gtk/gnome theme setting app
[02:17] <mjr> bezibaerchen, without the dash
[02:18] <Diablo-D3> it'd solve so many problems
[02:18] <glassor> hey guys, iv'e got sound in general, but  when try to play an mp3 with xmms/bmp the player freezes... any idea whats wrong ?
[02:18] <XandriX> mako, u there ???
[02:18] <synd> glassor: set the I/O prefs
[02:19] <yfir> glassor: make sure that xmms is configured to use esd rather than alsa/oss
[02:19] <pointwood> anyone knows if it is possible to get Grib to add meta tags to FLAC encoded files?
[02:19] <synd> glassor: use eSound output in the I/O prefs
[02:19] <bezibaerchen> mjr: no changes
[02:20] <yfir> glassor: i think xmms prefs refer to it as esound, but if not then esd
[02:20] <syn-ack> WTF are you people saying to use OSS? xmms has the direct ALSA plugin
[02:20] <synd> i said to use esound
[02:20] <syn-ack> esd is evil
[02:20] <yfir> syn-ack: but if glassor's system uses esd (like default ubuntu does) then xmms won't work with alsa
[02:20] <Diablo-D3> esd _is_ evil
[02:20] <synd> true
[02:20] <karl> maybe it is, but that's how ubuntu is set up by default
[02:20] <syn-ack> yfir: Mine does.
[02:20] <mjr> bezibaerchen, well, it might be that your screen is not in a unicode mode to start with (-U does the trick, as does the right locale)
[02:20] <Diablo-D3> I'd like to mention that... well... everything sucks
[02:21] <pointwood> nm
[02:21] <Diablo-D3> gnome sucks for being dependant on esd
[02:21] <yfir> syn-ack: you've disabled esd probably (?)
[02:21] <mjr> bezibaerchen, but as a quick fix you can do :utf8 off on (the latter on is for the session)
[02:21] <Diablo-D3> kde sucks for being dependant on esound
[02:21] <syn-ack> ubuntu uses gstreamer by default.
[02:21] <synd> how do i have DMA set to ON for my cdrw drive upon boot
[02:21] <Diablo-D3> err
[02:21] <Diablo-D3> I mean
[02:21] <syn-ack> KDE uses aRts
[02:21] <Diablo-D3> artsd
[02:21] <yfir> syn-ack: gstreamer is not equivalent to esd
[02:21] <icebalm> Diablo-D3: urmom sucks for being dependant on crack
[02:21] <qweqw> the only way to install ubuntu is "server"
[02:21] <bezibaerchen> mjr: also tried that, but it doesnt help
[02:21] <qweqw> then work your way from there
[02:22] <Diablo-D3> and alsa sucks for not having any multiplexer built in by default
[02:22] <qweqw> all those unnecessary packages are.. unnecessary
[02:22] <Diablo-D3> and linux 2.6 sucks for still having oss in the kernel source and allowing people to compile it and use it
[02:22] <synd> how do i have DMA set to ON for my cdrw drive upon boot
[02:22] <syn-ack> yfir: Yeah, its only the overlaying API that hooks into alsa
[02:22] <qweqw> it's deprecated, Diablo-D3
[02:22] <Diablo-D3> qweqw: yes, Linus keeps saying that
[02:22] <Diablo-D3> yet people keep using it
[02:23] <syn-ack> Diablo-D3: No it doesnt... OSS is only emulated in 2.6
[02:23] <Diablo-D3> syn-ack: look again, you can build oss drivers in 2.6.
[02:23] <icebalm> syn-ack: no, it's available
[02:23] <yfir> syn-ack: esd is an audio server
[02:23] <qweqw> OSS will be taken out when all other programs have been updated, presumably
[02:23] <syn-ack> true...
[02:23] <Diablo-D3> there are no oss programs left, qweqw
[02:23] <syn-ack> Diablo-D3: xmms. :)
[02:24] <Diablo-D3> xmms can use alsa
[02:24] <qweqw> there are
[02:24] <Diablo-D3> qweqw: nothing that doesnt work with alsa' oss emu
[02:24] <syn-ack> hell its still built on GTk 1.2
[02:24] <Diablo-D3> see, I dont mind oss emu
[02:24] <dcraven> synd: in /etc/hdparm.conf, make a section like this: /dev/hdc { dma = on }
[02:24] <qweqw> yeah, but you are the one complaining ;)
[02:24] <Diablo-D3> its just actually having oss in the kernel
[02:24] <Diablo-D3> which is evil
[02:24] <Diablo-D3> and wrong
[02:24] <synd> dcraven: thanks
[02:24] <qweqw> why?
[02:24] <dcraven> synd: assuming the drive you want to adjust is hdc.
[02:25] <synd> dcraven: that it is
[02:25] <syn-ack> Diablo-D3: My mac wont work without OSS
[02:25] <dcraven> synd: there are plenty of examples in that file.
[02:25] <Diablo-D3> sucks to be your mac.
[02:25] <qweqw> everything doesn't have to be 100% free, according to our ideals
[02:25] <syn-ack> Well, it might now...  I just installed ubuntu, but the resolution is wrong so my screens stay blank. I then switched to a text-interface (ctrl alt f1), but then how do i edit the resolution Ubuntu starts in?
[02:29] <synd> dcraven: do you know what all i should have enabled in hdparm for my cdrw drive to work normally?
[02:30] <megamind> how do i configure dialup on ubuntoo ?
[02:30] <synd> megamind: System -> Admin -> Networking
[02:30] <kary> oi
[02:31] <kary> oi
[02:31] <hans_> nk
[02:33] <kary> oi
[02:33] <megamind> synd: system - > admin -> network ???? i didnt got ya is this the folder sequence ?
[02:33] <kary> hi
[02:33] <synd> megamind: yes
[02:34] <synd> megamind: menu sequence rather
[02:36] <megamind> i can see sys folder on root only which do not cotain admin !
[02:36] <megamind> ! i m realy confused about dialer in linux adn can not find solution
[02:36] <megamind> plz guide me
[02:36] <dcraven> synd: No I don't unfortunatley, but I must say the question is a little vague.
[02:36] <Chameleon22> trying to compile tuxcards and getting this error: src/gui/cactusbar/cactus.h:27: error: forward declaration of `class Cactus', any ideas how to solve it?
[02:37] <dcraven> megamind: in the GNOME menus. System-->Admin-->Networking
[02:37] <synd> brb
[02:38] <megamind> i m using ubuntoo and i m also in gnome mode i can see applicationa dn computer menus only :(
[02:39] <dcraven> Chameleon22: sounds like a code error.. Is that a new release?
[02:39] <Chameleon22> dcraven: no
[02:40] <dcraven> Chameleon22: I'd try to install the deb that is available on thier website. Did you try that?
[02:40] <thundrcleeze> how do I mount my second hard drive?  the steps on ubuntuguide work for the first one, but not the second.
[02:42] <megamind> is their a visual utiltiy for dialer configurations ??? plzzz
[02:42] <thundrcleeze> Anyone?  O
[02:42] <Blue-Omega> i'm not able to mount lg GCE-8525B drive during installtion of Ubuntu 4.10
[02:43] <thundrcleeze> I'm trying to be patient, but I'm kind of in a hurry.
[02:43] <Delgul> Can I install a 64 bit amd kernel on a 32 bit ubuntu install and stay out of trouble? I have a amd 64 of course. Will it actually improve the kernel performance?
[02:43] <Cowlike> first hard drive partitiion has 'a', second one is 'b' and so on
[02:44] <Cowlike> sorry... mean 1, 2, 3
[02:44] <Cowlike> hda1, first partition, first disk      hdb1 first on second disk
[02:44] <qweqw> i wouldn't do that, Delgul
[02:44] <dcraven> megamind: are you running Warty by chance?
[02:44] <qweqw> ubuntu doesn't like you fucking with it's kernel.
[02:44] <hans_> is there a chance that ubuntu can read compressed ntfs partitions
[02:45] <qweqw> you'd probably get away with it, becase amd emulates 32 bits nicely
[02:45] <petemc> hans_: what did you use to compress them?
[02:46] <thundrcleeze> I've tried replacing hda1 with hdb1 but it says there's no such command.
[02:46] <Blue-Omega> anybody?
[02:46] <hans_> petemc: windows ntfs partition compressed
[02:46] <Delgul> qweqw: Hmm... so if I want to run a 64 bit kernel on my 64 bit processor, this is only useful/safe if I also use 64 bit libs and apps? Just the kernel is not possible?
[02:46] <Cowlike> are you modifying your fstab to add the new disk?
[02:46] <NicP> heman my dvd drive is fucked under linux
[02:46] <NicP> err -he
[02:46] <Cowlike> you need a directory existing as the mount point
[02:47] <qweqw> not exactly, Delgul
[02:47] <NicP> how the hell did that he get there
[02:47] <dcraven> what's with the expletives this morning?
[02:47] <qweqw> you COULD concievably do that, but it would take a whole lot of searching for the answer
[02:47] <Tirno> Hi, this has little to do with ubuntu.... I seem to be having trouble connecting to certain websites. How should I go about finding the culprit?=
[02:47] <qweqw> solution
[02:48] <qweqw> anyway, the only benefit of having a 64 bit system is that they can sometimes be faster. oh, and more ram.. so much that you'll never need it unless you want to store all your files in ram
[02:49] <Delgul> qweqw: Too bad I cant use my hw fully, I tried the amd64 hoary, but it was a bit shaky... Well I just will have to wait until Ubuntu amd64 has matured a little I guess
[02:49] <qweqw> the benefit of a 32 bit system is: more programs available, smaller size of binaries(faster loading), better gaming performance
[02:49] <Cain> hi
[02:50] <qweqw> Delgul, they do a pretty good job on the amd64
[02:50] <synd> when i try to burn an audio CD in GnomeBaker.. it takes a long time for it to "convert mp3 to CD audio" is there any way to speed this up?
[02:50] <Cain> i like to run unbuntu on a old laptop (celeron 466, 64 RAM) is it possible?
[02:50] <qweqw> sure, Cain
[02:50] <qweqw> install it as a server, though
[02:50] <synd> Cain: yes
[02:51] <Choubaka> But don't run Gnome.
[02:51] <Cain> -.-
[02:51] <qweqw> gnome desktop will be horrible on that
[02:51] <Cain> i need colour things :D
[02:51] <Choubaka> So will KDE
[02:51] <qweqw> start out with bare bones, apt-get the packages you want
[02:51] <Cain> and pictures
[02:51] <qweqw> yep, get fluxbox or ion3 instead
[02:51] <Choubaka> Cain: you might try XFCE4 then.
[02:51] <synd> xfce
[02:51] <synd> or fluxbox
[02:51] <synd> Cain
[02:51] <smouche> xfce would run on that?  good deal
[02:52] <Delgul> qweqw: I am not complaining. I solved a lot of the problems by using a 32 bit chroot. But especially the alsa sound problems were bad. But then again, I had a problem with dpkg crashing during the first time install, so it might be that my base system was not fully working....
[02:52] <qweqw> xfce4 is a log bigger than fluxbox
[02:52] <synd> when i try to burn an audio CD in GnomeBaker.. it takes a long time for it to "convert mp3 to CD audio" is there any way to speed this up?
[02:52] <dcraven> xfce might be a touch heavy for a 486.
[02:52] <alex> yey
[02:52] <smouche> what about IceWm?
[02:52] <Choubaka> dcraven: it's not a 486 :p
[02:52] <dcraven> hahaha.. I misread.
[02:53] <Cain> btw its a sony pcg-f400
[02:53] <Choubaka> the RAM is the limiting factor.
[02:53] <synd> Cain: you ought to boost the ram to at least 128
[02:53] <Cain> perhaps i will get another ram stick
[02:53] <synd> i have GNOME running great on a P3 600Mhz w/ 128MB
[02:54] <Cain> p3 != Celeron
[02:54] <dcraven> xfce would be fine on that machine, especially with a little more ram.
[02:54] <dcraven> Celerons are crap. That's what I have and its performance is terrible.
[02:54] <megamind> please suggest me how do i configure dial up in ubuntu... either visual utility or weblink to study
[02:54] <dcraven> Complete garbage. Waste of money.
[02:55] <Cain> -.- i cannot choose
[02:55] <syn-ack> Athlons are the only way to go. :)
[02:55] <dcraven> Cain: Me either ;)
[02:55] <synd> i have a celeron 1.7Ghz
[02:55] <synd> it gets the job done, esp with 512MB ram
[02:55] <Cain> but how to install xfce? i gues it issn't on the cd
[02:55] <syn-ack> Ratherm AMD in general
[02:55] <dcraven> synd: this is a 2.8GHz and my Athlon 1GHz runs circles around it.
[02:56] <syn-ack> that a Tbird 1000?
[02:56] <Cain> and i don't have an netzwork port
[02:56] <dcraven> syn-ack: yeah
[02:56] <synd> well, there are other factors other than just MHz speed
[02:56] <dcraven> synd: I know.. This machine has more RAM too.
[02:56] <syn-ack> dcraven: I had a Tbird 900 and I loved it. This is an XP 2000+ here
[02:57] <dcraven> Never again.
[02:57] <drcoded> hi all
[02:57] <synd> my G4 1Ghz iBook runs circles around my 1.8Ghz P4
[02:57] <drcoded> I seccessfly install new ubuntu workstation
[02:57] <syn-ack> dcraven: How much RAM you have in that beast?
[02:57] <drcoded> Now I plan to use somthing lite then gnome
[02:57] <dcraven> I notice it while (obviously) doing CPU intensive tasks like compiling.. It's a discrace.
[02:57] <drcoded> any recommand?
[02:58] <dcraven> syn-ack: 512 in the T-bird.
[02:58] <syn-ack> nice... had 384 in mine.
[02:58] <drcoded> any one can recommand me some lite then gnome
[02:58] <drcoded> I have p300 only
[02:58] <synd> drcoded: xfce4
[02:58] <drcoded> thanx
[02:58] <syn-ack> Fluxbox
[02:58] <synd> drcoded: fluxbox
[02:58] <drcoded> It will load automticly
[02:58] <drcoded> after I will install it?
[02:59] <drcoded> or I can replace the gnome boot with xfce?
[02:59] <syn-ack> You can configure it to do so, yes
[02:59] <synd> you select it in Sessions from your login screen
[02:59] <synd> then you make it Default
[02:59] <drcoded> k
[02:59] <drcoded> thanx
[02:59] <SlackShrike> i have a computer with a DVD+RW , CD-RW/DVD and 2 HD in RAID0 and the ubuntu-live don't boot. What i do ? Thanks!
[02:59] <dcraven> drcoded: if you use gdm to login (default), you can choose it from the Sessions button near where you type your login name.
[02:59] <drcoded> so in my login screen I can change to load xfce?
[02:59] <Delgul> qweqw: So what do I use best for my amd64 processor? A K7 kernel?
[03:00] <dcraven> drcoded: yeah
[03:00] <drcoded> thanx
[03:00] <drcoded> i WILL check it out
[03:00] <drcoded> thanx
[03:00] <syn-ack> Delgul: K8
[03:00] <dcraven> drcoded: have fun
[03:00] <drcoded> my 3 giga disk have on;y 1.5 giga left
[03:00] <drcoded> thanx
[03:01] <Delgul> syn-ack: Heh I dont want the 64 bit thingy with my 32 bit install. I was told that this will not work (or be problematic)
[03:01] <synd> hah.
[03:01] <syn-ack> ah, then go with the k7 kernel
[03:01] <Delgul> thx
[03:01] <occy> hmm
[03:01] <occy> anyone here using UG sources.list ?
[03:01] <synd> are there better cd burning progs other than gnomebaker?
[03:01] <occy> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[03:01] <syn-ack> k3b
[03:01] <occy> getting that.
[03:02] <linuxboy> syn-ack: is k3b in main ?
[03:02] <Delgul> occy
[03:02] <SlackShrike> i have a computer with a DVD+RW , CD-RW/DVD and 2 HD in RAID0 and the ubuntu-live don't boot. What i do ? Thanks!
[03:02] <occy> Delgul:
[03:02] <Delgul> occy: That is ok
[03:02] <syn-ack> linuxboy: yes
[03:02] <occy> :D
[03:02] <occy> Delgul: how can I get rid of the error msgs?
[03:02] <dcraven> megamind: did this help you with the dialup? --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto
[03:02] <why-oh-why> What's the best way to iron trousers?
[03:02] <Delgul> check http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ for that
[03:03] <why-oh-why> TELL ME!
[03:03] <Cowlike> I prefer to iron trousers with my 3GHZ pentium laptop
[03:03] <Delgul> I just give them to my mom :-)
[03:03] <why-oh-why> come on!!  i need tips!
[03:03] <Xappe> why-oh-why: dpkg-reconfigure -iron trousers
[03:04] <synd> are there better cd burning progs other than gnomebaker?
[03:04] <why-oh-why> nero
[03:05] <Cowlike> k3b is a very nice program, sync
[03:05] <dcraven> synd: graveman maybe? I dunno.
[03:05] <synd> Cowlike: k3b in apt-get?
[03:05] <synd> why-oh-why: nero? eh?
[03:05] <syn-ack> synd: YES
[03:05] <syn-ack> I said that already.
[03:06] <synd> syn-ack: musta missed that
[03:06] <SlackShrike> i have a computer with a DVD+RW , CD-RW/DVD and 2 HD in RAID0 and the ubuntu-live don't boot. What i do ? Thanks!
[03:06] <dcraven> k3b is pretty heavy in the dependancy department, but if you don't mind that.
[03:06] <dcraven> Unless you use KDE stuff already I mean.
[03:07] <syn-ack> SlackShrike: Wow, that helps alot.
[03:07] <synd> see i dont use kde at all..
[03:07] <dcraven> But who the heck does that?
[03:07] <synd> i no like kde
[03:07] <Aircobra> SlackShrike check in bios if it boots from either CD device at first priority
[03:07] <syn-ack> SlackShrike: I have a 68 chevy. I put oil in it, but it still wont start.
[03:07] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: Yes
[03:07] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: only the ubuntu not boot in this PC
[03:07] <dcraven> syn-ack: now now.
[03:08] <Aircobra> hmm
[03:08] <Aircobra> does that live cd boot on other machines ?
[03:09] <drcode> hi all
[03:09] <synd> grr i tried burning with GnomeBaker and it only burned 5 songs of 13
[03:09] <drcode> whats up
[03:09] <drcode> I Am now in xfce
[03:09] <drcode> nice
[03:09] <AgentM> Has anybody an idea why there aren't the device icons of mounted partitions on my desktop (only in Hoary)
[03:09] <dcraven> drcode: cool.
[03:09] <synd> drcode: its nice.
[03:09] <Aircobra> Slackshire does that live cd boot on other machines ?
[03:10] <phen> hello ppl!
[03:10] <SlackShrike> Yes
[03:10] <AgentM> I have only the icons for removable devices as cdrom or usb-disc
[03:10] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: Yes
[03:10] <nopea> got a question for some Linux heads ;) How can one transfer files to a remote server using the root account of the remote server?
[03:11] <mjr> scp/sftp
[03:11] <dcraven> nopea: scp I guess.
[03:11] <Aircobra> SlackShrike does it skips ubuntu and boots other system or just freezes? what are the symptoms?
[03:11] <phen> does anyone of you has got information about that special HP-Notebook-Ubuntu?
[03:11] <jono> anyone know of any sites that give statistic info on how IT salaries have changed over the years?
[03:11] <Jurgeni> AgentM: I think that is how it should be by default
[03:11] <nopea> mjr, dcraven, cheers
[03:12] <drcode> yes
[03:12] <drcode> coosl
[03:12] <drcode> cool
[03:12] <drcode> winetools come with wine install??
[03:12] <dcraven> drcode: check it's dependancies.
[03:12] <AgentM> Jurgeni Really? That's a pity, because in Warty there were some icons for mounted partitions
[03:13] <Rav> anyone have any experience on configuring Logitech mice in 5.04?
[03:14] <occy> man
[03:14] <occy> the stuff on ubuntuguide for DVD is horked
[03:14] <dcraven> drcode: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/otherosfs/wine
[03:14] <Jurgeni> AgentM: really... I don't remember ever having other icons on desktop for mounted stuff but CDs, USB-sticks and so on
[03:15] <AgentM> Jurgeni I am sure, that I had icons for my mounted partitions under Warty, really.
[03:15] <Jurgeni> ok
[03:16] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: In process of boot have this problem: "No common CD-ROM drive was detected."
[03:16] <fragspaz> hey, after i install enlightenment, how do i change shells?
[03:17] <fragspaz> i want to changefrom gnome to E
[03:17] <dcraven> AgentM: you could always drag them to the Desktop from Nautilus if you wish.
[03:17] <SiRrUs> hello
[03:17] <occy> Read error from: Error reading NAV packet.
[03:17] <fragspaz> sirrus, hey, how do i use switch winmngrs/shells
[03:17] <dcraven> fragspaz: you can choose it from the Sessions button in the GDM login screen.
[03:18] <fragspaz> oh yeah
[03:18] <fragspaz> tahnks dcraven
[03:18] <fragspaz> whats the command though
[03:18] <fragspaz> just for future reference
[03:18] <dcraven> fragspaz: command?
[03:18] <Andril> hello all
[03:18] <fragspaz> nvm
[03:18] <Andril> I need help finding themes (Icons.GTK & Metacity) please
[03:19] <dcraven> Andril: gnome-look.org has some I think.
[03:19] <AgentM> acraven But that's not exactly what I want. When there are no disc-icons on my desktop, I cannot access the mounted partitions directly over gnome (open file menu etc.), only over /media/parition
[03:19] <qweqw> well, what's the error?
[03:20] <qweqw> does it crash.. does it freeze.. does it do nothing..
[03:20] <Aircobra> SlackShrike no idea man, did you try googling on this prhase ?
[03:21] <Andril> dcraven: cool
[03:22] <Andril> is Hoary using the Industrial theme as a default?
[03:23] <fragspaz> hey
[03:23] <fragspaz> Enlightenment isnt in my login thing
[03:23] <dcraven> Andril: Clearlooks Human I think.
[03:23] <fragspaz> sessions menu
[03:24] <fragspaz> isnt there a cmd to run that switches it for you?
[03:24] <SlackShrike> Aircobra : i am searching on google
[03:24] <fragspaz> ?
[03:25] <fragspaz> how do i switch from gnome to enlightenment?
[03:25] <Ironfrost> what's a good audio editing tool for linux?
[03:25] <Ironfrost> (one that can handle MP3s)
[03:27] <elcu> Ironfrost: audacity?
[03:27] <fragspaz> thats on linux?
[03:27] <fragspaz> if audacity is linux compatible get it
[03:28] <elcu> fragspaz: it's recommended in the ubuntuguide.  it's in the repos
[03:28] <fragspaz> i record my work on it
[03:28] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: the install-cd no boot too !
[03:28] <b0ol> does somebody know the address of the linuxforen.de irc-server?
[03:28] <Andril> dcraven: do you know where I can find the Industrial Icon theme? not @ gnome-look
[03:28] <Diablo-D3> audacity afaik is only for linux
[03:28] <fragspaz> elcu, i have intalled it already
[03:28] <elcu> fragspaz: how did you install enlightenment?
[03:29] <elcu> fragspaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6417.html
[03:29] <Ironfrost> elcu - OK, thanks a lot
[03:29] <fragspaz> elcu thx, i used the repos
[03:29] <fragspaz> synaptic
[03:30] <b0ol> how to get the border between nick and chat back in xhat?
[03:30] <b0ol> xchat
[03:30] <elcu> fragspaz: yeah, you have to edit /usr/share/xsessions.  see the link
[03:30] <fragspaz> thx
[03:30] <fragspaz> b0ol, i have no idea
[03:30] <fragspaz> double click?
[03:31] <b0ol> damn :/
[03:31] <elcu> b0ol: screenshot?
[03:31] <elcu> imageshack
[03:31] <b0ol> ah
[03:32] <b0ol> no i got it alreaddy :)
[03:32] <b0ol> :/
[03:32] <elcu> what was it?
[03:33] <joe|code> I set up my printer with the printer tools in Gnome but when I go to print a page from the web it comes up with the printer being listed as post-script.
[03:33] <occy> :(
[03:33] <JDigital> How do I install Valknut?
[03:33] <occy> suck suck
[03:34] <occy> Can't seem to get DVD to play under Ubuntu Hoary
[03:34] <qm8008135> http://pastebin.com/276638 how do I modify button/lid case so that I can have different routine for lid close and open event??
[03:34] <Aircobra> SlackShrike thats really funny. out of ideas...
[03:34] <elcu> occy: ubuntuguide.org
[03:34] <occy> I've apt-get installed: mplayer-386 mplayer-fonts mozilla-mplayer w32codecs gstreamer0.8-plugins libdvdcss2 xine-ui
[03:34] <dcraven> Andril: maybe it's at art.gnome.org
[03:34] <occy> none of them work.
[03:34] <occy> elcu: duh
[03:35] <occy> heh
[03:35] <ick> is ubuntu LSB 2 ?
[03:35] <occy> xine doesn't work, gxine doesn't work, totem doesn't work.
[03:35] <intilignat> can the LiveCD be used to install Ubuntu?
[03:35] <elcu> occy: ogle, vlc, kaffeine
[03:35] <occy> gives something about can't read device
[03:35] <fragspaz> how do chmod a file
[03:36] <fragspaz> to be readable to a norm lvl user
[03:36] <synd> ugh does anyone know how to get files off of a palm zire 71?
[03:36] <occy> I would imagine ubuntuguide would tell you you need to change perms on a device or something.
[03:36] <fragspaz> writable
[03:36] <JDigital> synd: It's a bitch, but it's possible
[03:37] <occy> FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps] : dvdreadblocks failed
[03:37] <occy> elcu: see above.
[03:37] <dockane> i would like to download a rpm package but clicking on the link opens the real media player. help please
[03:37] <synd> JDigital: i cant figure it out
[03:37] <elcu> occy: sure it's not your drive?
[03:37] <mjr> dockane, shift-click or right-click/save as
[03:37] <synd> JDigital: like i have pictures on it and i wanna load them on my comp
[03:37] <elcu> dockane: right-click, save link as...
[03:38] <JDigital> synd: Have you installed pilot-link or such?
[03:38] <dockane> elcu, mjr its a jave something
[03:38] <joe|code> Does anyone use Firestarter? If so, does it block your local printer by default?
[03:38] <Ironfrost> Audacity is looking for a file called libmp3lame.so
[03:38] <dockane> *java
[03:38] <JDigital> or jpilot
[03:38] <Ironfrost> I have Lame installed, so where would I find that file?
[03:38] <JDigital> You probably want to try jpilot
[03:38] <fragspaz> ironfrost
[03:38] <fragspaz> read the readme
[03:38] <Andril> dcraven: not there either - thanks anyways
[03:38] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: The motherboard is 915P/G Combo A7058IMS
[03:38] <vivlachaga> hoary is the stable version toay? what is the "testing" release?
[03:38] <elcu> dockane: mjr?
[03:38] <SiRrUs> breezy
[03:38] <JDigital> jpilot gets stuff off a palm, although I couldn't get it to work myself
[03:38] <fragspaz> ironfrost: thats for exporting mp3's, read the readme i think the side is lamelib.sf.net or sumin
[03:38] <synd> JDigital: jpilot in aptget?
[03:39] <vivlachaga> breezy? SiRrUs ?
[03:39] <JDigital> yeah
[03:39] <dockane> elcu, the adress behind the link is : javascript:Dl_File('S000000055','SD00000004');
[03:39] <JDigital> I ended up using pilot-link which is command-line and fugly
[03:39] <SiRrUs> vivlachaga yep its the testing version
[03:39] <vivlachaga> thanks
[03:39] <Ironfrost> fragspaz - thanks
[03:39] <dockane> elcu, mjr gave me the same awnser like you
[03:39] <SiRrUs> yw
[03:39] <hussam> I already set a root password. Still when a user opens synaptic, it asks for his password and the root's. How can I set it to ask root password instead?
[03:40] <occy> elcu: I get:  Totem could not play 'dvd://',  Could not open resource for writing.
[03:40] <occy> should I have to chmod it 666 or something?
[03:40] <elcu> dockane: check edit -> preferences -> dosnloads -> file types
[03:40] <elcu> *downloads
[03:40] <Burgundavia> hussam, you need to edit the synaptic.desktop file in /usr/share/applications to say gksu synaptic not gksudo synaptic
[03:41] <elcu> occy: you shouldn't have to.
[03:41] <occy> elcu: :/
[03:41] <dockane> elcu, already did it. rpm is not linked to any plugin but it alway opens up real media mozilla plugin
[03:42] <elcu> occy: sorry, i'm not sure, it might be the drive itself.  you could try and convert the DVD to a format that you can read of the HDD
[03:42] <fragspaz> how do i use chmod?
[03:42] <ikaro> mojn
[03:42] <fragspaz> chmod ???
[03:42] <intilignat> can the LiveCD be used to install Ubuntu?
[03:42] <occy> elcu: how could I do that?
[03:42] <elcu> fragspaz: man chmod.  or google for chmod tutorials
[03:42] <elcu> intilignat: no
[03:42] <occy> elcu: convert the DVD to a format... to read from the hard drive?
[03:42] <JDigital> Use mplayer instead of Totem.
[03:42] <elcu> occy: convert it to divx or some such.  haven't done it myself.
[03:43] <SiRrUs> fragspaz http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[03:43] <ick> how do i make ubuntu bullet proof ?
[03:43] <ick> i mean secure has hell
[03:43] <GarySaved> Hey!  I found something you will be interested in ...
[03:43] <JDigital> mplayer dvd://1
[03:43] <occy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:43] <occy>   libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[03:44] <occy> mplayer isn't installing
[03:44] <JDigital> I hate those umet dependencies
[03:44] <JDigital> :(
[03:44] <JDigital> mplayer is awesome
[03:44] <GarySaved> The NSA is releasing  patches to help make Linux more secure!
[03:44] <occy> JDigital: heh, how do you fix em'?
[03:44] <matty> This is sweet
[03:44] <JDigital> I haven't worked out how to fix them yet
[03:44] <occy> joy
[03:44] <matty> I think I can honestly say this is the first distro I've actually enjoyed installing
[03:44] <matty> Appart from taking 3 or 4 hours to tweak the fonts
[03:45] <GarySaved> It gives me a warm fuzzy to know our gov. has our better interests at heart!
[03:45] <occy> Warty seemed much better at playing DVD's
[03:45] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: The slackware boot too
[03:45] <SlackShrike> Aircobra: Only the ubuntu
[03:45] <tritium> GarySaved, apt-cache search selinux
[03:45] <occy> elcu: With Warty, I just folled ubuntu guide and DVD was working.
[03:45] <occy> elcu: Hoary is the suck for DVD
[03:45] <occy> heh
[03:46] <JDigital> how do I use valknut
[03:46] <elcu> occy: still using warty myself.
[03:46] <occy> GOT IT WORKING!
[03:46] <occy> hah
[03:46] <occy> under ogle
[03:46] <occy> it just started freakin' working
[03:46] <occy> how freaky
[03:46] <occy> must have been the 666
[03:46] <elcu> JDigital: you mean install?
[03:46] <occy> :/
[03:47] <occy> it's jumpy as heck
[03:47] <JDigital> I mean how do I get it
[03:47] <JDigital> the download site doesn't have "ubuntu" listed
[03:47] <GarySaved> Wow!  I did not know that was there.  I just found their web site.  (I was being sarcastic)
[03:47] <occy> heh
[03:47] <occy> totem still won't play it.
[03:48] <poningru> totem teh suck
[03:48] <elcu> compile from the source
[03:48] <poningru> I had a question
[03:48] <poningru> why isnt ogles gui installed with it?
[03:48] <poningru> I mean if you are installing ogle by default why not install the gui as well?
[03:49] <tritium> poningru, I don't know what ogle is, but some people (myself included) don't use synaptic, and instead use aptitude or apt-get, so not everyone wants a gui
[03:50] <Chipzz> I don't know ogle either, but for example mldonkey
[03:50] <elcu> tritium: i agree.  (aside: ogle is a dvd player)
[03:50] <sadneophite> can anyone tell me where my apache server is looking for it's index.html
[03:50] <Chipzz> sometimes it makes sense to run the gui elsewheer
[03:50] <tritium> elcu, ah, thanks
[03:51] <felipe_> how can i setup lame to encode 192kbps ?
[03:51] <poningru> tritium: ogle is a dvd player
[03:51] <Ironfrost> OK.. I've read through the documentation, and it all seems pretty adamant that if I have Lame I should have this libmp3lame.so file
[03:51] <poningru> it comes preinstalled in ubuntu
[03:51] <Ironfrost> but I don't
[03:51] <felipe_> i'm using kaudiocreator
[03:51] <poningru> but not its gui
[03:51] <occy> gxine will play it.
[03:51] <occy> heh
[03:51] <tritium> poningru, yeah, I apt-cache searched it ;)
[03:51] <Ironfrost> is there anywhere it can be downloaded from
[03:51] <occy> totem suxx0rs
[03:51] <occy> heh
[03:52] <ick> i just got banned from debian
[03:52] <ick> what morons
[03:52] <GarySaved> So what all would that access-control add.  I always thought Linux was secure from the box.
[03:52] <ick> cant ask simple question
[03:52] <sadneophite> apache2 is running on my computer but I can't seem to find where the server root is, can anyone tell me where the root is?
[03:52] <poningru> thats the thing why is totem the default player for everything
[03:52] <poningru> I mean comeone
[03:53] <Taliesin`> (sadneophite): genreally /var/www/html/ is the default root :)
[03:53] <elcu> Ironfrost: what package are you trying to install?
[03:54] <Ironfrost> elcu - I installed audacity and am trying to save a file as an MP3
[03:54] <ick> how do i make ubuntu secure ?
[03:54] <Ironfrost> it wants me to find libmp3lame.so, which should come with Lame
[03:54] <elcu> ick: ubuntuguide.org
[03:54] <ick> it seems ubuntu dont have firewall
[03:54] <Ironfrost> but I can't find the thing in /usr/lib
[03:54] <sadneophite> taliesin  thanks I was looking at /srv/www/htdocs or something
[03:54] <ick> look to me like ubuntu is good hacking material
[03:55] <elcu> Ironfrost: which lame packages do you have installed?
[03:55] <sadneophite> ick ubuntu is debian... debian was always good to modify
[03:55] <ick> #debian folks dont seem to think ubuntu is debian
[03:56] <Ironfrost> just 'Lame' - there is a 'lame-extras' that I find through synaptic, but that talks about streaming servers and whatnot
[03:56] <sadneophite> ick, what they mean is that debian isn't ubuntu
[03:56] <Ironfrost> so it probably not relevant
[03:56] <sadneophite> ick it is like that square and rectangle thing
[03:56] <sadneophite> ubuntu is debian but debian isn't ubuntu...
[03:57] <GarySaved> Has anyone actually installed that selinux patch?
[03:57] <ick> so debian is biger that ubuntu is it ?
[03:58] <Quazion> I have an iMac running hoarty now, but the screen is not centered ok. Any hints on how to move it a bit more to the left ?
[03:58] <JDigital> Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[03:58] <sadneophite> basically all ubuntu packages are either debian or modified from debian... it is a debian subset
[03:58] <^vir^> debian users hate ubuntu users its a shame that debian fans are elitists :(
[03:58] <JDigital> Quazion: Futz with the graphics drivers
[03:58] <luboshiq> ick, if you are programmer think of it as ubuntu is a subclass of debian
[03:58] <Taliesin`> hah
[03:58] <Taliesin`> not true
[03:58] <Taliesin`> I use both Debian and Ubuntu
[03:58] <JDigital> ubuntu implies debian
[03:58] <Taliesin`> Debian for my Server systems
[03:58] <sadneophite> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
[03:58] <Quazion> JDigital, where ? :)
[03:58] <Taliesin`> Ubuntu for my Network Laptop :D
[03:58] <ick> so what the point of ubuntu ?
[03:58] <JDigital> quazion: no clue
[03:58] <^vir^> Taliesin`, its true mate ask in debian
[03:59] <ick> why not cooperate with debian ?
[03:59] <JDigital> that xfreeconfig dealy maybe
[03:59] <paulproteu1> ^vir^: Don't be so extremist.  I use both Debian and Ubuntu.
[03:59] <ick> instead of forking ?
[03:59] <sadneophite> I use debian DVDs for a coaster...
[03:59] <Quazion> JDigital, i used to use some x tool for that in the past...
[03:59] <Taliesin`> (^vir^): what im saying is not all Debian users are like that ;)
[03:59] <JDigital> debian is good for servers, Ubuntu is good as a desktop OS
[03:59] <dcraven> ick: there is much cooperation.
[03:59] <Taliesin`> correct
[03:59] <Taliesin`> those 'extremists' are comapring apples to bannana's
[03:59] <dcraven> ick: don't beleive everything you hear.
[03:59] <ick> i dont but it gets confused
[03:59] <Taliesin`> Debian, personally is a good Server OS
[03:59] <Quazion> found it again, its xvidtune :)
[03:59] <sadneophite> debian is good if you want to usew old programs and ubuntu is good if you don't like using backports
[03:59] <elcu> Ironfrost: i think you need liblame
[04:00] <Taliesin`> Ubuntu, Is a fracking great Desktop OS
[04:00] <JDigital> right
[04:00] <dcraven> ick: any changes made in Ubuntu are sent upstream to Debian.
[04:00] <^vir^> ick ubuntu uses debian packages just like how suse use redhat its basicaly what it comes down to
[04:00] <sadneophite> Taliesin I HATE DEBIAN BACKPORTS they are like ober unreliable
[04:00] <ick> so the packages arent really ubuntus ?
[04:00] <luboshiq> ick, I like ubuntu more because it is more about desktop than debian
[04:00] <Taliesin`> (sadneophite): lmao, i run on the testing systems
[04:00] <sadneophite> ick some of them are
[04:01] <Taliesin`> their are updates everyday :D
[04:01] <sadneophite> Taliesin lmao
[04:01] <^vir^> some are some aren't ick its a mixture of the two really
[04:01] <sadneophite> ?
[04:01] <Taliesin`> same are pure debian, alot have been customised for ubuntu
[04:01] <Taliesin`> you will notice sometimes as packages coem down
[04:01] <Taliesin`> they have .orig. in them
[04:01] <^vir^> debian is crap for updates unlike ubuntu
[04:01] <sadneophite> it is like c++ is c but c isn't c++
[04:02] <Taliesin`> without an ubuntu tag, they are pure debian pakcages AFAIK, the ones marked like hell with ubuntu in most of the packages are the ubuntu customised ones :)
[04:02] <luboshiq> sadneophite, i like your point of view
[04:02] <luboshiq> :-)
[04:02] <^vir^> ubuntu try to use the latest & greatest on the market while providing the end user with a distro suitable for desktop usage
[04:02] <Taliesin`> same
[04:02] <Taliesin`> (^vir^): hm?
[04:02] <[4-tea-2] > hi folks, i'd like to try ubuntu... before i dive into it: can i run parted from the install cd?
[04:03] <Taliesin`> no, Debian is the last stable build of Debian, bad for a Desktop OS
[04:03] <Taliesin`> err
[04:03] <Taliesin`> bad = built
[04:03] <sadneophite> ^vir^ no I think that is suse under the new novell developement...when you are speaking from 'market'
[04:03] <poningru> how do you write to the hardisk using the live cd?
[04:03] <Taliesin`> and first Debian = Ubuntu :P
[04:03] <fragspaz> chmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions
[04:03] <fragspaz> is that OK?
[04:03] <elcu> [4-tea-2] : don't think so.
[04:03] <dcraven> [4-tea-2] : if you are wondering if there is a partitioning tool during install, then the answer is yes. I don't know what the tool actually is though :)
[04:04] <fragspaz> tis easy though
[04:04] <fragspaz> install is no problem
[04:04] <[4-tea-2] > i have to resize an existing (boot) partition. so i guess i'll have to find a small parted image first
[04:04] <sadneophite> taliesin thanks again
[04:05] <elcu> dcraven: there is?  not for resizing (ala disdkrake in mandrake) though?
[04:05] <elcu> which is what he wants
[04:05] <sadneophite> elcu fdisk
[04:05] <fragspaz> chmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions     <<< is this good or not?
[04:05] <fragspaz> i get errors
[04:05] <luboshiq> i must say i'm impressed how well ubuntu runs on mac
[04:05] <^vir^> sadneophite, suse is rpm based i'm on about debian based the two are completey different for other distro does what ubuntu does really you think how many do you find with gnome 2.10 as standard
[04:05] <occy> elcu: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
[04:05] <luboshiq> much better than yellow dog 4
[04:06] <occy> elcu: that seems to have fixed the speed issue of the DVD
[04:06] <occy> it's playing perfectly now.
[04:06] <occy> heh
[04:06] <elcu> occy: nice one.
[04:06] <occy> found that on the ubuntuforums
[04:06] <fragspaz> chmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions     <<< is this good or not?, i get errors. what is wrong with it?
[04:06] <dcraven> elcu: I don't think you can resize, no.
[04:06] <JDigital> Hurr. Installing valknut is a rigmarole
[04:06] <occy> my question is.... is that permanent?  Or do I have to do something to make that work at boot time?
[04:07] <occy> The hdparm command
[04:07] <[4-tea-2] > sweet - SuSE has a 182kb parted image. exactly what i need to install ubuntu after resizing. :)
[04:07] <[4-tea-2] > (no, i am NOT using SuSE, i just googled for "parted iso")
[04:08] <slask3n> Does anyone know what can make my computer unable to "talk" to the internet? I was running GAIM and Firefox with 3 tabs last it happened... Suddenly just like that i get timeouts and have no connection, even though it shows all as normal, including the network connections...
[04:08] <^vir^> [4-tea-2] , nothing wrong with suse yast is great :)
[04:08] <fragspaz> chmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions     <<< is this good or not?, i get errors. what is wrong with it?
[04:08] <Ocid> occy: modify your /etc/hdparm.conf
[04:09] <slask3n> fragspaz: one thing is that executive-parameter is x, and not e...
[04:09] <fragspaz> oh
[04:09] <megamind> plz guide me for the dialup access in ubuntu
[04:09] <fragspaz> ok
[04:09] <fragspaz> thx
[04:09] <[4-tea-2] > ^vir^: yast is sick. ymmv. :)
[04:09] <ick> is opera 8 in ubuntu ?
[04:09] <slask3n> np
[04:09] <dcraven> [4-tea-2] : this might be useful --> http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
[04:10] <fragspaz> slask3n: still 'too few arguments'
[04:10] <ick> i mean the freeware version
[04:10] <dcraven> ick: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:10] <ick> opera 8 is fast
[04:11] <slask3n> fragspazick: no, i cant find it at least...
[04:11] <ick> faster then firefox i think
[04:11] <tritium> ick, apt-cache search <search term> when you want to look for a possible package in ubuntu
[04:11] <dcraven> ick: yes it is.
[04:11] <slask3n> fragspaz: i dont know really, try look at the man pages "man chmod"
[04:11] <ick> i used oprea back in the days it was the only tabed browser
[04:11] <[4-tea-2] > dcraven: that looks nice, thanks, but i think i'm set
[04:12] <dcraven> [4-tea-2] : okay
[04:12] <[4-tea-2] > (i actually want to minimize the amount of stuff i have to download, so i can get rolling soon)
[04:12] <fragspaz> can anyone here tell me whats wong with my chmod command??
[04:13] <astro76> fragspaz: use && to separate complete commands, not options
[04:13] <elcu> megamind: what's your problem?
[04:13] <elcu> elcu: got mine working using wvdial
[04:13] <elcu> heh. whoops
[04:14] <TooSad> i am sorry, my amule is an enourm window whith enourms font
[04:14] <dcraven> fragspaz: what are you trying to do? rwxrwxr-x? That's "chmod 775 filename" I think.
[04:14] <TooSad> i have disinstalled it and installed
[04:14] <TooSad> but nothing
[04:14] <fragspaz> oh thx astro and dcraven
[04:15] <astro76> fragspaz: of course the whole thing would simplify as chmod a+rwx /usr/share/xsessions && o-w /usr/share/xsessions
[04:15] <astro76> fragspaz: and note it's x not e
[04:15] <fragspaz> thx
[04:15] <KleenerBub> hi
[04:15] <fragspaz> whts a o and w?
[04:15] <megamind> how can i configure the dialup .. plz dome one respond me
[04:16] <astro76> fragspaz: missed a part: chmod a+rwx /usr/share/xsessions && chmod o-w /usr/share/xsessions
[04:16] <gypsymauro> hello
[04:16] <elcu> megamind: wvdial
[04:16] <gypsymauro> any hint on how configure a wireless card on a notebook?
[04:16] <astro76> fragspaz: o=other, w=write
[04:16] <fragspaz> thanks astro
[04:17] <KleenerBub> how do i share folders on my ubuntu with an win2000-pc?
[04:17] <fragspaz> samba?
[04:17] <dcraven> fragspaz: http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[04:17] <fragspaz> thanks
[04:17] <KleenerBub> ok and how. i've installed samba with apt-get install samba
[04:17] <dockane> does somebody inhere runnung iscan ?
[04:19] <AgentM> I have a problem with qt-apps, under my Ubuntu they are looking pretty bad, almost unusable. Can I install some themes for qt or something like that? Important is, that I don't want to install kde!
[04:20] <slask3n> Does anyone know what can make my computer unable to "talk" to the internet? I was running GAIM and Firefox with 3 tabs last it happened... Suddenly just like that i get timeouts and have no connection, even though it shows all as normal, including the network connections...
[04:20] <poningru> firewall?
[04:20] <steved> slask3n: what kind of connection you using ?
[04:21] <sameh> hi who is there
[04:21] <slask3n> steved: ADSL, directly to internet...
[04:21] <KleenerBub> now how can i configure samba?
[04:21] <steved> slask3n: usb modem or ethernet ?
[04:22] <slask3n> steved: ethernet...
[04:22] <kkathman> slask3n: have you tried connecting to the net with another system yet?
[04:22] <davegahan> anyone who knows how to steer around a GRUB loadng error 17 ?
[04:22] <davegahan> big panick here
[04:22] <slask3n> yes, i have another computer, 2 actually and they both connects...
[04:23] <kkathman> slask3n: ok just wondered if maybe the connection went down... Did you reboot the Linux system and retry?
[04:23] <slask3n> steved, kkathman: i have to reboot to get this computer online again :s
[04:23] <Taliesin`> have u tried sudo ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 up
[04:23] <Taliesin`> ?
[04:23] <kkathman> slask3n: but when you reboot, it comes back on line?
[04:23] <Taliesin`> sorry
[04:23] <Taliesin`> have u tried sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[04:24] <Taliesin`> and see if you can go back to browsing?
[04:24] <slask3n> Taliesin, kkathman: yes and yes
[04:24] <ThomasWinwood> Hello. I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my setup and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?
[04:24] <GarySaved> SlackShrike, What firewall are you using?
[04:24] <dcraven> KleenerBub: this might be useful --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[04:24] <davegahan> please... help
[04:24] <H0lyD4wg> why do Gtk+ apps use different fonts when i'm not using Gnome?
[04:24] <elcu> davegahan: make sure your HDD is not set to "Auto", use "LBA" instead.
[04:25] <elcu> davegahan: in BIOS
[04:25] <steved> slask3n: might be worth setting up some pings and see what happens
[04:25] <steved> slasks3: ping your default gateway ie your modem and then ping an address on the internet see what happens when the connection drops
[04:26] <GarySaved> When ubuntu starts up, it sets to do a lease renewal in 9 hours.  THe only way I can stay connected indefinately is by installing FireStarter.  It handles restarting the connection when the lease renews.
[04:26] <davegahan> checked my bos
[04:26] <davegahan> BIOS
[04:26] <kkathman> slask3n: Its not really like linux to just drop a device point blank...unless you were doing something odd, or tripped over a cable, this sounds like a hardware prob..might you have another ethernet card available?
[04:26] <davegahan> there is no such option
[04:26] <SlackShrike> SlackShrike: I am don't use firewall
[04:27] <UnreA|L> uild-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[04:27] <UnreA|L>   gftp: Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-1) but it is not installable
[04:27] <UnreA|L> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:27] <UnreA|L> how install this ?
[04:27] <elcu> davegahan: it should be where the HDD area is.
[04:27] <davegahan> sweating here
[04:27] <GarySaved> SlackShrike, Then you should try FireStarter, and see if that is it.
[04:27] <elcu> davegahan: just chek every dialog
[04:27] <slask3n> steved, kkathman: everything looks perfectly fine in ifconfig, networking, etc... but i get timeout when trying to visit a webpag etc... ive tried unplugging, and plug in the networkcable, and renewing the IP, etc. but i need to reboot for makng it work...
[04:27] <davegahan> its an acer laptop doesnt show such option in bios
[04:28] <megamind> wvdial requires confiugration of wvdial.conf and i can  not find that file :(
[04:28] <GarySaved> There is a default firewall that does not handle DHCP lease renewals for adsl.
[04:28] <elcu> megamind: follow the instructions in the readme
[04:28] <davegahan> trying rescue root=/dev/...
[04:28] <slask3n> kkathman: i have another harddisk with windoZe on, and have no problems there, i got the problems after reinstalling ubuntu a week ago..
[04:28] <steved> slask3n: i assume the timeout happens on multiple web sites?
[04:28] <megamind> which readme fiel :(
[04:29] <slask3n> all, i cant even visit google.com
[04:29] <elcu> megamind: in here: /usr/share/doc/wvdial/README.gz
[04:29] <megamind> thanks let me take a look at that ...
[04:29] <steved> slask3n: might be a dns problem ?
[04:29] <tritium> megamind, all package store their doc directory under /usr/share/doc, so it's always a good idea to look there
[04:29] <rave> hello
[04:30] <gwildor> hi
[04:30] <davegahan> nothing like that in my bios
[04:30] <ThomasWinwood> Hello. I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my setup and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?
[04:30] <rave> every body happy ?
[04:30] <slask3n> steved: the other computers can connect :s
[04:30] <elcu> davegahan: i had the same problem, and i fixed it that way.  it's a popular error.  tried googling?
[04:30] <davegahan> I fear a disaster, if only  can get linux or windows running
[04:30] <steved> slask3n: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf check your name servers are in there
[04:31] <megamind> thanks i got the idea about the readme now ...
[04:31] <slask3n> steved: i dont have any name servers...
[04:31] <davegahan> yeah
[04:32] <kjcole> Hi.  I've just installed Ubuntu Hoary with the default partitioning, and wanted to know where I can learn more about the /dev mounted on /.dev.
[04:32] <elcu> megamind: happy surfing. and pass the message on.  wvdial is an excellent, easy way of getting dialup modems up and running (unless you have a winmodem AFAIK)
[04:32] <Blue-Omega> i'm not able to mount lg GCE-8525B drive during installtion of Ubuntu 4.10 anybody can help me?
[04:32] <steved> slask3n: what are they other boxes that are working linux as well ?
[04:32] <davegahan> found the bios thing, but cant find the setting in mine
[04:32] <kjcole> (I hadn't seen .dev before.  If I partition by hand, does that still automatically get set up?)
[04:33] <davegahan> there must be another way....
[04:33] <dcraven> davegahan: it's been reported that people who get that error in grub have no issues with lilo.. Not a great solution, but a possibility if all else fails.
[04:33] <slask3n> steced: yes, one is running Ubuntu as well and the other mandrake... but this computer has no problems in windoze and never had any probs in ubuntu either before i reinstalled ubuntu last week.
[04:33] <slask3n> steved*
[04:34] <ThomasWinwood> I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?
[04:34] <davegahan> phew
[04:34] <elcu> davegahan: update your bios.
[04:35] <davegahan> oh yeah
[04:35] <Blue-Omega> anyone?
[04:35] <steved> slask3n: can you get to google.com at the moment via a web page?  If not try pinging <IP_ADDRESS> that is the ip address for google.com
[04:35] <davegahan> googling now for ubuntu rescue installation
[04:36] <steved> slask3n: if the ping works but the web page doesnt looks like a dns problem to me
[04:36] <d0n> hi
[04:36] <slask3n> i can get into google now, cause i have rebooted the computer... but between 11.30 and 14.00 today i had to reboot 3 times..
[04:37] <UnreA|L> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:37] <UnreA|L>   gftp: Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-1) but it is not installable
[04:37] <UnreA|L> uild-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[04:37] <UnreA|L> how install this ?
[04:37] <steved> slask3n: what does resolv.conf look like now ?
[04:37] <slask3n> steved: i have no connection to internet whatsoever! i cant ping google, i cant chat on gai/xchat or anything.. 2 sec ill check resolve.conf
[04:38] <H0lyD4wg> Gtk+ apps use different fonts depending on whether or not i'm using Gnome. How do i set the fonts, theme, etc. without using gnome?
[04:38] <ThomasWinwood> I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?
[04:38] <dcraven> H0lyD4wg: is gnome-settings-daemon running?
[04:39] <slask3n> Steved: search adsl.tele2.no || nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> || nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:39] <nydust> whats the best html editor like golive?
[04:40] <steved> slask3n: have a look at netstat -rn there should be a line starting with <IP_ADDRESS> the next address is your default gateway try pinging that
[04:40] <nydust> slask3n, norwegian?
[04:40] <kjcole> Can anyone point me towards documentation regarding "/dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)"
[04:40] <H0lyD4wg> dcraven, wow, thanks.
[04:40] <slask3n> nydust: ja :P
[04:40] <dcraven> H0lyD4wg: you can probably still use gnome-font-properties and gnome-theme-manager even though you aren't using GNOME.. Assuming that GNOME is installed but you just arent' using it.
[04:41] <nydust> slask3n, same here
[04:41] <fateisajester> does anybody here play pool on pogo.com?
[04:41] <dcraven> H0lyD4wg: I'll assume that worked, glad to help.
[04:41] <fateisajester>  i ask because i have a pretty fast computer and a decent video card... its a javabased game which runs perfectly on windows but is really choppy on linux
[04:41] <kjcole> Does the /.dev mount point and the mounting of /dev just "happen" as part of the standard install, regardless of partitioning before installing?
[04:42] <slask3n> steved: destination <IP_ADDRESS> and gateway <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:42] <mjr> fateisajester, don't play, dunno, but it sounds like they might use threads in some manner that relies upon Windows' scheduling, which would be bad practice. Or it's something else.
[04:42] <slask3n> steved: or destination <IP_ADDRESS> and gateway <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:43] <steved> slask3n: the 193 address will be your gateway try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:44] <slask3n> steved: but i have connection now.. its just sometimes.. right out of the blue...
[04:45] <slask3n> steved: i got answer from the gateway now... time=0.036 ms
[04:45] <steved> slask3n: that kind of fault is a really hard one work out :( anything common you are doing on the comp when it happens or just surfing ?
[04:45] <sval> hell guys, could you remember me what's the command to have a listing of all the files in a directory WITH the absolute PATH ?
[04:45] <dcraven> sval: find?
[04:46] <steved> slask3n: you should get a constant reply from the gateway if its dropping packets then you have a problem
[04:46] <ThomasWinwood> I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?
[04:46] <slask3n> steved: the apps that always have been running when it happens is Firefox, gaim and sometimes Synaptic.. i have a constant reply from the gateway
[04:46] <sval> dcraven: good idea :) i was searchong a flag for ls but don't find it
[04:47] <steved> slask3n: if its working ok now might be worht leaving that ping running then set up a ping to google.com and then let them run and see what happens when you loose connection
[04:47] <steved> s;ask3n: then you will know whether its the link between you and the modem or the modem and your isp