[07:27] <mup> Bug #1838942 opened: Websocket API needs support for users.[create,update,delete] and userProfile.update <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838942>
[07:30] <mup> Bug #1838942 changed: Websocket API needs support for users.[create,update,delete] and userProfile.update <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838942>
[07:36] <mup> Bug #1838942 opened: Websocket API needs support for users.[create,update,delete] and userProfile.update <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838942>
[07:36] <mup> Bug #1838943 opened: Cannot PXE boot arch 0f due to protocol mismatch <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838943>
[07:45] <mup> Bug #1838942 changed: Websocket API needs support for users.[create,update,delete] and userProfile.update <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838942>
[07:45] <mup> Bug #1838943 changed: Cannot PXE boot arch 0f due to protocol mismatch <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838943>
[07:51] <mup> Bug #1838942 opened: Websocket API needs support for users.[create,update,delete] and userProfile.update <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838942>
[07:51] <mup> Bug #1838943 opened: Cannot PXE boot arch 0f due to protocol mismatch <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838943>
[10:43] <mup> Bug #1838517 changed: Unable to deploy P8 node "modoc" after migrated to power8-maas <ppc64el> <MAAS:Fix Released> <The Ubuntu-power-systems project:Fix Released by maas> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838517>


[00:12] <menn0> waigani, thumper or davecheney: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/2721/
[00:12] <menn0> easy one
[00:20] <rick_h_> thumper: got 10min to chat?
[01:19] <thumper> rick_h_: I do now
[01:36] <mup> Bug #1497801 opened: provider/joyent: data races <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497801>
[01:36] <mup> Bug #1497802 opened: provider/maas: data races <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497802>
[02:00] <mup> Bug #1497807 opened: worker/rsyslog: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497807>
[02:09] <mup> Bug #1497809 opened: worker/statushistorypruner: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497809>
[02:09] <mup> Bug #1497810 opened: uniter/remotestate: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497810>
[02:12] <davecheney> there are currently 5 data races in juju
[02:19] <anastasiamac> davecheney: is it an improvement? :D
[02:19] <davecheney> no, a regression of +5
[02:27] <mup> Bug #1497809 changed: worker/statushistorypruner: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497809>
[02:27] <mup> Bug #1497810 changed: uniter/remotestate: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497810>
[02:30] <mup> Bug #1497809 opened: worker/statushistorypruner: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497809>
[02:31] <mup> Bug #1497810 opened: uniter/remotestate: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497810>
[02:37] <mwhudson> davecheney: guess that job didn't get made voting then?
[02:46] <davecheney> sad trobone
[02:58] <davecheney> too many test suites depend on github.com/juju/juju/testing.BaseSuite, when they should be depending on github.com/juju/testing.CleanupSuite
[02:58] <davecheney> ^ ie, all the suites that _only_ use PatchValue
[03:26] <menn0> hmmm my merge run is stuck trying to bring up an EC2 instance
[03:26]  * menn0 cancels it
[03:41]  * natefinch really just wants to run some shit in a goroutine that reads the db, but in Juju that means a watcher and a worker and an API facade and an api client...
[04:06] <davecheney> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3340
[04:06] <davecheney> i was able to remove testing.BaseSuite from this package
[04:06] <natefinch> davecheney: nice
[04:07] <natefinch> ahh, confusing... juju/testing vs juju/juju/testing
[04:08] <davecheney> -ETOOMUCHBASESUITE
[04:08] <natefinch> +100
[04:40] <mup> Bug #1497829 opened: session closed in data source <juju-core:In Progress by anastasia-macmood> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497829>
[05:34]  * thumper goes to make dinner, will check in later to see william
[07:45] <thumper> fwereade: if you are around? a quick chat
[07:46] <thumper> if you aren't, then enjoy the public holiday :)
[07:46] <fwereade> thumper, am here
[07:46] <thumper> I'll be quick
[09:02] <jam> fwereade: standup?
[09:19] <jam> frobware: dooferlad: the flag is "source destination check"
[09:19] <dooferlad> thanks jam
[09:21] <jam> dooferlad: you can google "ec2 vpc NAT instance" and "Source Destination Check" for more details
[09:22] <jam> frobware: ^^ would be probably good to understand that discussion, since we're essentially natting for containers
[09:23] <frobware> jam: ack
[09:27] <frobware> jam, dooferlad: for the freeze on the 22nd is there anything we are missing or need to do?
[09:31] <jam> frobware: have you kept the "15.10 Networking Work Items" up to date?
[09:31] <jam> I think you and dimiter went over that last week
[09:32] <dooferlad> frobware: on https://canonical.leankit.com/Boards/View/101652562#workflow-view you can set up a filter using the funnel on the top right. If you use the hilight mode and filter on tag 'phase-1.1-mvp' you can see all cards related to the initial networking support.
[09:32] <dooferlad> frobware: assuming the tags are correct, that should be everything
[09:32] <frobware> jam: dimiter and I went through that on friday and corrected the dates
[09:33] <frobware> jam: for october there are two items outstanding which is in review
[09:34] <dooferlad> frobware: there are three cards that aren't in merged. One is docs (assigned to Frank), one is Dimiters code for EC2 (that I can clean up and get someone to review, then land) and one is a low priority code cleanup card.
[09:34] <frobware> jam, dooferlad: and the other item is waiting for James' ci tests to land - so, I believe the October section is up to date.
[09:53] <dooferlad> frobware, jam: why do we have a doc for that when we have the board? My single source of truth alarm went off.
[09:57] <frobware> dooferlad, jam: predates me but it's easier to see a top-down list vis-a-vis cards on the board which eventually go out of view because they're "done"
[09:58] <jam> frobware: dooferlad: I would also guess size of scope for each one. I think cards are supposed to be finer grained than an overall summary of things that have been completed.
[11:02] <fwereade> jam, want to do the series-metadata thing? if you're comfortable with the phase 1/2 bits I think I am too
[11:02] <jam> fwereade: I thought you were off for public holiday today
[11:03] <fwereade> jam, my concerns are all around the edge cases in the model when we have non-homogeneous units
[11:03] <fwereade> jam, yeah, but so was ian and it's important to him :)
[11:03] <jam> yeah, I'd like to chat, just started a different conversation because I thought you were gone, I'll swing back around in 20 min or so? Is that ok?
[11:04] <fwereade> jam, sure, ping me, will try to be near
[12:01] <perrito666> anastasiamac: axw ?
[12:17] <perrito666> axw: standup
[12:21] <jam> katco: when you're around, I'd like to meet with you in about 40 min or so if you're up.
[13:17] <jam> katco: ping if you're around
[13:27] <perrito666> jamespage: hey, I just bzr branched ubuntu:juju-mongodb, then I ran apt-get build-dep juju-mongodb but dpkg-buildpackage fails with: dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../juju-mongodb_2.4.10.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
[13:27] <perrito666> jamespage: am I missing some step? sinzui you might now too
[13:27] <jamespage> perrito666, bzr bd
[13:28] <jamespage> (hint use the bzr builddeb pluing)
[13:28] <perrito666> jamespage: tx a lot
[13:41] <lazypower> perrito666, o/
[13:48] <axw> perrito666 anastasiamac: sorry, I just forgot :/  I have set an alarm for tomorrow night
[13:58] <bogdanteleaga> anybody fancy a fast pr? https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/152
[14:04] <perrito666> lazypower: hi
[14:14] <mup> Bug #1498010 opened: TestSetsStatusWhenDying <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498010>
[14:15] <perrito666> well building the mongo deb takes some time :p
[14:17] <mup> Bug #1498010 changed: TestSetsStatusWhenDying <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498010>
[14:22] <katco> jam: hey around now
[14:22] <katco> jam: still there?
[14:23] <mup> Bug #1498010 opened: TestSetsStatusWhenDying <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498010>
[14:33] <perrito666> jamespage: a bit more help :p at the end it tries to sign the package and fails because I lack the secret keys, any way to go around it?
[14:53] <jam> katco: I'm stopping by IRC from time to time in case you are around today
[14:53] <katco> jam: i'm here! :)
[14:54] <jam> katco: I'm joining https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/john-meinel-kat
[15:14] <jamespage> perrito666,  "-- -us -uc"
[15:16] <perrito666> tx again
[15:27] <natefinch> man, second time we've been creating a service with a default value only to set the value correctly immediately afterward... where the only change to do it atomically is to pass in the value and use it at service creation time.
[15:38] <natefinch> katco: fix committed on the 1.25 forward port of the io timeout bug btw.
[15:38] <katco> natefinch: awesome! make sure LP is updated
[15:39] <natefinch> katco: yep.
[15:41] <natefinch> gah.... I hate it when people use unnecessary pointers
[15:55] <lazypower> o/ Morning, who can i poke about the juju storage provider and loopback storage?
[16:15] <katco> lazypower: wallyworld, axw, anastasiamac. i actually wrote the loopback provider, but don't have time this morning
[16:22] <alexisb> lazypower, what is it that you need?
[16:23] <alexisb> is it urgent?
[16:32] <lazypower> alexisb, a CPP partner is running into an issue with loopback storage provider, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12515220/
[16:32] <lazypower> it appears its trying to do whats right, but encounters an error and just leaves itself cycling in a broken state.
[16:32] <alexisb> lazypower, can you open a bug
[16:32] <lazypower> surely
[16:33] <alexisb> and I can get eyes on it this afternoon
[16:33] <alexisb> lazypower, thanks
[16:37] <lazypower> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1498081
[16:37] <mup> Bug #1498081: loopback storage provider not completing successfully <storage> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498081>
[16:38] <lazypower> Thanks for taking a look alexisb
[16:38] <alexisb> thanks for the bug
[16:45] <mup> Bug #1498081 opened: loopback storage provider not completing successfully <storage> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498081>
[16:45] <mup> Bug #1498084 opened: TestManageEnvironRunsCharmRevisionUpdater fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498084>
[16:45] <mup> Bug #1498086 opened: TestImplicitRelationNoHooks fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498086>
[17:03] <mup> Bug #1498094 opened: TestCommitHook fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core maltese-falcon:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498094>
[18:16] <natefinch> katco: you around?
[18:16] <katco> natefinch: yep
[18:17] <natefinch> katco: I think I must be doing something dumb with registering my facade, because i keep getting an error from the API that is  unknown object type "UnitAssigner"
[18:17] <natefinch> when I clearly do register a facade with the UnitAssigner name
[18:18] <katco> natefinch: the rpc server uses reflection to check that it conforms to a type signature
[18:18] <katco> natefinch: so the errors are at runtime
[18:18] <katco> natefinch: make sure you have the correct methods defined with the exact type signatures expected
[18:19] <katco> natefinch: does that help, or just stating the obvious?
[18:19] <natefinch> katco: both ;)  Often, stating the obvious is helpful :)
[18:23] <natefinch> lol... if you print something out at the wrong time from the client, it won't bootstrap
[18:27] <natefinch> ERROR failed to bootstrap environment: cannot upload bootstrap tools: invalid version "2015-09-21 18:22:51 ERROR juju.apiserver.unitassigner unitassigner.go:15 Registering UnitAssigner\n1.26-alpha1.1-vivid-amd64" printed by jujud
[18:41] <natefinch> I bet I know what it is... the version. I bet the default version is 0 for the server and 1 for the client, or vice versa, and so they're not matching up\
[18:41] <natefinch> (version of the facade)
[18:42] <natefinch> yep.... client defaults to v0, server defaults to v1.  Awesome.
[18:45] <natefinch> er, I guess the server doesn't default, but most things are at v1, so I thought v1 would be the default.
[18:47] <natefinch> man, would have been nice if the log message included the fact that it was the specific version of the facade that was missing, not the name
[20:03] <katco> natefinch: hey, need a status update on bug 1497312 for the release meeting. almost done?
[20:03] <mup> Bug #1497312: make assignment of units to machines use a worker <juju-core:In Progress by natefinch> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by natefinch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497312>
[20:04] <natefinch> katco: not really... keep running into problems. It's not going to land today unless a miracle happens.  Sorry... lots of little things keep cropping up that are hard to debug.
[20:36] <mup> Bug #1498175 opened: lxcBrokerSuite.* fails on centos <centos> <ci> <lxc> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498175>
[22:42] <thumper> perrito666: ping
[22:46] <perrito666> thumper: this is not to boast about the rugby game isn't it?
[22:46] <thumper> perrito666: no...
[22:47] <thumper> perrito666: would like to talk work stuff
[22:47] <thumper> if you ahve some time
[22:47] <perrito666> sure, need a hangout?
[22:50] <perrito666> thumper: ?
[22:50] <thumper> yeah, just otp with alexisb right now
[22:50] <thumper> after that?
[22:51] <perrito666> sure, just ping me over here
[23:31] <perrito666> thumper: didn't forget about me, right?
[23:32] <thumper> perrito666: nope, ready now
[23:32]  * thumper creates hangout
[23:32] <thumper> perrito666: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/status
[23:55] <perrito666> thumper: well that was an awful lot of info to lift from the back of my head, hope I didn't lie too much to you :p if you catch me in the other side of the day I might be more lucid


[17:50] <xboxown__> heheh
[17:50] <xboxown__> this channel does indeed exist
[17:50] <xboxown__> it does, it does exist :D
[17:50] <xboxown__> Hello


[01:21] <qwebirc62691> ok, Im sure this will be a bit of a stupid question -but Im at a loss...
[01:21] <qwebirc62691> Im trying to back my video content up to a cifs share, and if I use a windows box & go to network neighborhood I can copy from the CIFS share on my ubuntu box over to a CIFS share on my freenas box, but directly from my mythbuntu box -When I try to go to thunar & do Ctrl+L like everywhere is saying to dirrectly connect to a CIFS share, its not taking smb://
[01:21] <qwebirc62691> What am I doing wrong here?  :)
[01:56] <AnthonyUK> I have a Peak Hardware DVB-T Dual tuner also known as Kworld DVB-T PC160-2T, what I want to find out is do these cards have the onboard encoders or does the cpu have to do it for them, reason I want to know is I have one of these cards and would like another one, but before I change my ssytem i gota make sure my cpu is up to the task.
[01:57] <tgm4883> AnthonyUK, digital cards don't have hardware encoders. Or are you talking about for the analog side (I didn't look to see if they had an analog side)
[01:59] <AnthonyUK> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hardware_Requirements
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> if you scroll down to "Performance Issues" they talk about onboard compression there
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> the cards i have are digital tho to confirm your question
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> analogue tv was shut down in my area of the uk a few years back
[02:01] <AnthonyUK> so am I worrying over nothing? do all digital cards compress anyway, was it only an issue with analogue transmissions
[02:01] <tgm4883> AnthonyUK, digital cards don't have hardware encoders because digital signals already are compressed
[02:02] <AnthonyUK> seems obvious now you say it hehe
[02:02] <tgm4883> a DVB card just dumps the stream to disk
[02:02] <tgm4883> it's usually mpeg2-ts
[02:02] <tgm4883> heh, it seems obvious, but it's always a good idea to check ;)
[02:03] <AnthonyUK> its just occurded to me i could instruct my cards to record 2 channels at same time and find the command that brings up cpu usuage in linux
[02:08] <AnthonyUK> thanks for you help tbg4883
[02:08] <tgm4883> yw
[02:08] <AnthonyUK> just one more question, the minimum and recommended system requirements on this page
[02:08] <AnthonyUK> http://www.mythbuntu.org/support
[02:09] <AnthonyUK> are they for frontend, backend or both?
[02:11] <tgm4883> AnthonyUK, frontend probably
[02:11] <tgm4883> AnthonyUK, backend shouldn't take much RAM/CPU at all
[02:11] <tgm4883> just HD space
[02:11] <AnthonyUK> cool
[02:13] <AnthonyUK> now i just gota find a motherboard on ebay that is 1)cheap 2)supports the low power 1.6cpu im buying 3) has gigabit lan and 3) has lots of pci slots
[02:13] <AnthonyUK> hopefully my homeserver will use alot less power
[02:13] <AnthonyUK> cheers for you help once again tgm4883
[06:04] <Shadow__X> I am trying to upgrade my mythbuntu machine from 10.04 to 12.04 and am geting libc6 errors
[06:06] <Shadow__X> at first it says configuring libc6 xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading
[06:06] <Shadow__X> then when I click forward it says configuring libc6 services to restart for gnu libc library upgrade rysync mysql cron cups atd apache2
[10:33] <qwebirc71814> Hi all! Can help me somebody?
[10:34] <qwebirc71814> Can somebody help me?
[10:35] <qwebirc71814> How can I make a bootable USB key? I've a 1 GB sized USB pendrive...


[19:12] <airurando> good evening ubuntu-ie
[19:12] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:12] <czajkowski> hows you airurando
[19:12] <airurando> hi czajkowski
[19:12] <airurando> good now
[19:13] <airurando> finished work for the day :)
[19:13] <airurando> how's you?
[19:13] <czajkowski> aye just about done
[19:13] <czajkowski> hows the kids?
[19:13] <czajkowski> all well ?
[19:13] <airurando> all good. enjoying the hols
[19:14] <airurando> you enjoying the down time at home?
[19:14] <czajkowski> yup it's good thanks
[19:14] <czajkowski> jon came over for the weekend
[19:14] <airurando> how does that snazzy ubuntu mouse feel?
[19:14] <czajkowski> very nice
[19:14] <czajkowski> got a voucher when I joined
[19:14] <czajkowski> so deciedd to get it
[19:14] <czajkowski> handy when travelling
[19:15] <airurando> cool
[19:15] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/437977
[19:15] <airurando> nice having himself over
[19:15] <czajkowski> yup
[19:15] <airurando> did he enjoy the trip?
[19:15] <czajkowski> nice to show him places
[19:15] <czajkowski> minus the santa stuff
[19:15] <airurando> was it his first time here?
[19:16] <czajkowski> 2nd
[19:16] <czajkowski> first was over xmas
[19:16]  * airurando looks at album
[19:16] <airurando> bunratty!
[19:16]  * airurando loves bunratty
[19:17] <airurando> looks like you both had fun there
[19:18] <czajkowski> yup was nice
[19:18] <czajkowski> nice place to bring people
[19:19] <airurando> cliffs of moher to
[19:19] <czajkowski> yup so pretty
[19:19] <czajkowski> and then lahinch
[19:19] <czajkowski> my favourite place!
[19:19] <airurando> Dads family are from Ennistymon
[19:20] <czajkowski> ah lovely
[19:20] <czajkowski> it's so pretty down there
[19:22] <airurando> yeah I remember my Grandad giving out about the miserable waves in Dun Laoghaire  (where he retired to) vs the great ones in Lahinch.
[19:23] <airurando> very quiet in here lately
[19:23] <czajkowski> aye
[19:23] <czajkowski> comes and goe
[19:23] <czajkowski> goes
[19:23] <czajkowski> waves I guess
[19:24] <airurando> hope so
[19:24] <airurando> :)
[19:24] <czajkowski> indeed
[19:24] <czajkowski> did yuo have a nice easter?
[19:24] <airurando> aye
[19:24] <airurando> took in both Cork and Limerick
[19:25] <airurando> the long weekend (fri to sun) felt like a week
[19:25] <czajkowski> aye was nice alright
[19:25] <czajkowski> my inbox today looked like a car crash
[19:28] <airurando> saw the tweet :)
[19:29] <czajkowski> yeah it was pretty busy
[19:29] <airurando> were you at Thomond on Sunday?
[19:30] <czajkowski> no thankfully or I'd have cried
[19:31] <airurando> :)
[19:31] <airurando> me to!
[19:31] <airurando> delighted I only got to follow it on twitter.
[20:38] <jshortland> hi all
[20:38] <zmoylan> hey
[20:45] <czajkowski> ello
[20:48] <zmoylan> hi czajkowski, enjoying the grub before heading back to blighty?
[20:51] <czajkowski> yup
[20:51] <zmoylan> [;us easter for all the choccy goodness
[20:51] <zmoylan> *plus


[10:36] <GunnarHj> Hi all!
[10:36] <GunnarHj> Why does Lubuntu install fcitx by default? If there is no particular reason, it would be much better to drop fcitx from the seed. Please see this old Discourse thread for my reasoning:
[10:36] <GunnarHj> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/default-im-config-configuration/17136
[10:36] <GunnarHj> And also the ongoing discussion at https://bugs.debian.org/976603
[10:36] <GunnarHj> I already asked tsimonq2 the same question at #ubuntu-devel:
[10:36] <GunnarHj> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/11/23/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t09:59
[10:38] <GunnarHj> tsimonq2 ^
 I really like how kcalc in jammy now has history of what you calculate in it


[15:21] <switchgirl> hi please can i have a solution to this problem: (the council) spent over a million and a half on microsoft and ofter software, i need open software solutions to replace them


[02:51] <jrg> hm
[02:51] <jrg> can't seem to figure out a way to prevent the tf101 from going into deep sleep
[02:51] <jrg> or making it so it doesn't blank the screen.. whatever the problem is with it not being able to turn on after being unused for a while
[02:58] <jrg> hm. there have to be workarounds for this screen blanking :/
[03:09] <jrg> oh i guess there is a workaround built in but it requires an sudo pw? wtf? heh
[03:24] <jrg> blah i give up on linux on this tf101
[03:24] <jrg> it's totally borked.. well. i'd say the tf101 is totally borked but that's another issue altogether
[03:25] <jrg> anybody know a netbook or something that is arm based that is good for running ubuntu on?
[03:25] <jrg> that everything actually works on?
[04:50] <xperia> hi all. i am trying to build ubuntu-minimal using rootstock but somehow i am getting always this error messages here whenever i try to run rootstock
[04:51] <xperia> I: Valid Release signature (key id 790BC7277767219C42C86F933B4FE6ACC0B21F32)
[04:51] <xperia> E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-armel/Packages
[04:51] <xperia> I: First stage install done
[04:51] <xperia> ./rootstock: 1016: ./rootstock: cannot create /tmp/tmp.aR7hnv4lXR/tmpmount/etc/fstab: Directory nonexistent
[04:51] <xperia> Can anybody tell me how to fix this problem ?


[13:48] <fred1807> ubuntustudio
[13:48] <fred1807> how do I specify my "ladcomp" alsa plugin, as MPD output, in mpd.conf?  device          "hw:0,0"
[16:42] <Adro> Hello everybody, I'm having problems with my new Presonus 1818vsl audio interface,  there's poping and crackling sounds, if jack manages to start I get a lot of xruns... I've been looking around for solutions and I suspect it might be related to a usb3 issue, I think I managed to disable usb3 through my BIOS setup, but nothing seems to change... sorry guys but I'm desperate for help!!!
[16:46] <Adro> running ubuntu studio 16.04lts
[17:22] <OvenWerks> Adro: you may need to get a pcie USB card. The intel USB ports do have issues.
[17:23] <Adro> hi
[17:23] <Adro> I'll check that OvenWerks , I think there might be some extra ports in my motherboard
[17:23] <OvenWerks> Adro: first try each USB port on your computer though, it may just be the usb port you are using shares irq with something else
[17:24] <Adro> that I know it is an issue in my system
[17:25] <OvenWerks> Adro: you may be interested in http://crimeandtheforcesofevil.com/blog/2016/07/24/usb-2-0-chipsets-digital-audio-workstations-and-linux/
[17:25] <OvenWerks> and it's follow up article.
[17:25] <Adro> OvenWerks: I did some research in that subject but it gets really confusing, I know I have both usb3 and usb2 hubs but can't understand how are they routed to the actual ports
[17:26] <OvenWerks> http://crimeandtheforcesofevil.com/blog/2016/07/25/so-hey-usb-chipsets-totally-matter/
[17:26] <Adro> OvenWerks: thank you so much
[17:26] <OvenWerks> is the second one. It turns out to be the usb 1.1 part of the intel chipset that is the problem
[17:27] <OvenWerks> USB 2.0 uses some of the usb1.1 stuff and the intel chipset expects the system cpu to do a lot more of the work which means many more interupts
[21:38] <adro_> hello all, xhci-hcd seems to control all my usb buses even if they are 2.0, I'm  having issues with a usb audio interface Presonus 1818vsl, this does not work well with usb3, I have learn that installing a PCI card with ohci-hcd drivers would solve it but, is there a reason why I can't force xhci to manage only my usb3 ports??? help and thanks for any insight!!!
[21:44] <adro_> sorry OvenWerks , thanks for the links, I gathered some info about this and it raised more questions! I just asked again this time why xhci seems to be controlling all my buses... I don't understand why lsusb lists 4 buses and all my devices are managed under one that's not even the 3.0 hub but the driver is xhci... sorry to bother you but I'm just confused, I consider getting a pci card but now I need to understand this issue
[21:46] <OvenWerks> adro_: the USB 1.1 part of things is traffic control. If you have xhci on all of them, it is because of the USB chipset in use. (probably Intel)
[21:49] <adro_> OvenWerks: yes, the chipset is 8 Series/C220 Series
[21:50] <OvenWerks> adro_: have you edited your rtinit file yet?
[21:51] <adro_> OvenWerks: but I don't get it why apparently having 3 controllers of which only one is xhci it has to manage all...
[21:51] <adro_> OvenWerks: nope
[21:51] <OvenWerks> adro_: the way I have dealt with that is first find out if the port you are using shares irqs with something else
[21:52] <adro_> OvenWerks: you'll have to excuse me for I'm quite a newbi
[21:52] <OvenWerks> Do you know which USB the 1818 is plugged into?
[21:52] <adro_> OvenWerks: oh yes, I think all my buses are in just 2 slots
[21:53] <adro_> OvenWerks: yes, that's the thing
[21:53] <OvenWerks> ok. in a terminal type cat/proc/interrupts
[21:54] <adro_> OvenWerks: yes I've got it
[21:54] <OvenWerks> use shift uparoow to get back up to where the usb ports are listed.
[21:54] <adro_> OvenWerks: 16 and 23 are for ehci and 26 seems to be xhci
[21:55] <OvenWerks> adro_: you want to A) make sure you are using the one on 23 (16 is almost always shared) and B) make sure nothing else is using that USB port.
[21:55] <OvenWerks> That is no mouse/kb etc.
[21:56] <OvenWerks> (mouse generates a lot of interupts)
[21:57] <adro_> OvenWerks: the issue is no matter where I plug what everything is under the same bus
[21:59] <OvenWerks> You are begining to see why another USB card would be helpful :(
[22:01] <OvenWerks> On my netbook (several years old now) there were two ports in use (USB2 and 3) I was able to get only my sound device on USB3 and then raise the priority on just that USB port.
[22:01] <OvenWerks> I used USB2 for everything else (hard drive and mouse as happens)
[22:01] <adro_> OvenWerks: that's where I get confused, since my motherboard has 4 usb3 ports and 8 usb2 ports i just don't get it
[22:03] <OvenWerks> Ya, I think things have changed since USB3 came out.
[22:03] <adro_> OvenWerks: where can I find the rtinit file?
[22:04] <OvenWerks> /etc/default/rtirq it is rtirq I guess I had it wrong
[22:04] <OvenWerks> it is a system file so sudo nano to edit.
[22:04] <adro_> OvenWerks: yes, I see why a pci card would help, but then I gathered that there might be an issue with a my 64 bit system
[22:05] <OvenWerks> why?
[22:07] <adro_> OvenWerks: says... it requires an IOMMU or a computationally expensive bounce buffer to work with a 64-bit operating system
[22:07] <adro_> OvenWerks: I don't have a clue what that means really
[22:07] <OvenWerks> I got the idea pretty much any NEC USB pcie card would work.
[22:08] <OvenWerks> I have heard that even the NEC based USB3 cards work well
[22:09] <adro_> OvenWerks: but still, should I use that only for the audio interface?
[22:09] <OvenWerks> Personally, I still use an old Delta66 PCI card so I don't know.
[22:09] <adro_> OvenWerks: or means I can use usb3 devices on the same
[22:09] <OvenWerks> yes, I would use it just for the audio box
[22:10] <OvenWerks> I would use the ones on the MB for everything else
[22:10] <adro_> OvenWerks: yes, I was searching for that sort of pci interface but they are difficult to find!
[22:10] <OvenWerks> The Intel USB chips are fine for most uses
[22:10] <adro_> OvenWerks: ok
[22:11] <OvenWerks> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815283031&cm_re=pcie_usb_card_NEC-_-15-283-031-_-Product
[22:11] <adro_> OvenWerks:  so the important ist it should have ohci drivers?
[22:12] <OvenWerks> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD2WW9524&cm_re=pcie_usb_card_NEC-_-15-158-394-_-Product
[22:12] <OvenWerks> NEC is known to have good drivers
[22:12] <OvenWerks> The hardware determines the drivers
[22:13] <OvenWerks> The Kernel will load the right drivers for the card
[22:13] <adro_> OvenWerks: ok
[22:14] <adro_> OvenWerks: "Backward compatible with USB 1.1 & 2.0" that's the thing right?
[22:14] <OvenWerks> Ya, you need USB2.0 for the 1818
[22:15] <adro_> so, you recon that one specifically would work on my machine???
[22:15] <adro_> just any pcie with nec chipsets?
[22:16] <OvenWerks> If the card has two plugs and shows up as two ports, then you could use the other port for other uses.
[22:16] <OvenWerks> That is what I have heard. To be honest... unless I try it in my system, I don't know.
[22:17] <adro_> hmm ok
[22:17] <adro_> well, that article you sent me earlier gives hope!
[22:19] <OvenWerks> I remember a message in the LAU mailing list, but not when... it gave some other NEC chips known to work as well as the one in that article.
[22:21] <adro_> oh, I'll check for compatibility then
[22:26]  * OvenWerks has to go for a while


[08:13] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: Heads up: argyle is running in PS4 at the moment, and we've been asked to move it to PS4.5 by the end of the week.
[09:29] <Laney> did aufs go away in our 4.0?
[09:29] <Laney> my schroots broke :(
[09:34] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: apw: Oh, it's not by the end of the week, it's by July 15 (next Wednesday).
[09:35] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: apw: I've redeployed the service, and opened RT #82789 to open up the same firewall holes as we have for the PS4 deployment.
[09:35] <infinity> Laney: Erk, it sure did...
[09:36] <infinity> apw: Where'd aufs go?
[09:36] <infinity> Laney: You can s/aufs/overlay/ for now (or downgrade).
[09:38] <Laney> infinity: Ya, done that, thanks.
[10:32] <apw> infinity, it was meant to be there, i am sure tim updated it
[12:29] <infinity> apw: I'm sure modinfo tells me I don't have it.
[12:29] <infinity> Althought, CONFIG_AUFS_FS=m ...
[12:29] <infinity> Wha?
[12:52] <apw> infinity, yeah its disabled in the makefile, seems to build just fine, so i am proposing to do a non-abi bumper with it enabled
[12:53] <infinity> apw: If it works, that seems reasonable.
[13:45] <bjf> Odd_Bloke, so our "cloud provider" has asked us to move to a new cloud but it's up to us to do that? and i suppose any/all firewall exceptions are also up to us to tell them about?
[13:49] <rbasak> awe: do you mind posting your /var/log/apt/history.log somewhere from yesterday's grub2 incident? I'd like to see what exactly did what when your system originally broke to understand the issue better.
[13:54] <awe> rbasak, in a mtg, and just about to join a standup; I'll ping you when I free up
[13:54] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[14:02] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: Something like that, yes.
[14:03] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: But they have at least been fairly responsive; new rabbitmq is at <IP_ADDRESS> and the firewall holes should have been punched.
[14:03] <Odd_Bloke> (In their defense, all I had to do was say "copy the PS4 firewall rules", so hopefully they should all be correct)
[14:05] <bjf> Odd_Bloke, since we access it via ip addr, it will require code changes
[14:06] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: Yeah. :(
[14:07] <bjf> Odd_Bloke, from what you are telling me. the new one is in place and i should be able to switch over right now if i wanted ... correct?
[14:08] <Odd_Bloke> bjf: That's my understanding; but check first?
[14:09] <bjf> Odd_Bloke, ok ... i'll do a little checking and if it goes well, make the switch
[14:13] <bjf> apw, ^^^^ i'll do some testing to make sure the msgq service is working for the systems we want it
[14:16] <apw> bjf, sounds good, as i will need to shock-and-awe on the dashboard
[14:18] <awe> did someone say my name?  ;)-
[14:18] <apw> :)
[14:18] <apw> infinity, ok just enablnig aufs seems to work just fine, soooo ... i'll get that uploaded
[14:19] <apw> ogasawara, seems we are missing aufs in the kernel we just did, so i am proposing to do a non-abi bumper for it
[14:19] <awe> rbasak, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11848708/
[14:19] <ogasawara> apw: ack
[14:19] <infinity> apw: Works for me.
[14:20] <infinity> apw: I can never decide from minute to minute if my schroots should be overlay, aufs, or lvm, but hey, it's nice to be spoiled for choice.
[14:20] <infinity> apw: (I still wish overlay could paper over the one or two things that make me keep turning to aufs...)
[14:21] <rtg> apw, the 4.0 Wily upload is missing AUFS ?
[14:21] <infinity> rtg: Yep.
[14:21] <infinity> rtg: It's in the config, but apparently disabled in the Makefile.
[14:21] <infinity> (oops)
[14:21] <rtg> infinity, oh, damn
[14:22] <rtg> sure is
[14:22] <rtg> better check the 4.1 branch
[14:23] <rtg> looks like that one is OK
[14:23] <rbasak> awe: thanks!
[14:23] <infinity> rtg: Misplaced your cowboy hat in between versions?
[14:23] <awe> np
[14:24] <infinity> rbasak: So, that totally has apt-get being the culprit, not update-manager.  We can stop panicking.
[14:25] <infinity> rbasak: As in, *someone* got impatient that grub wasn't upgrading and ran "apt-get install grub" and said "sure, remove everything" when it prompted.
[14:25] <infinity> In fact, wait.  That's grub1, even.
[14:25] <infinity> awe: So, that was totally self-inflicted.
[14:26] <infinity> awe: Your manual installation of grub1 removed grub2, and you said "yes".
[14:26] <rbasak> infinity: AIUI, awe had a problem after the update, and he tried to fix it by installing grub
[14:26] <rbasak> infinity: but yes, the problem wasn't cause because the grub2 signed package got removed. Must have been caused by some other thing.
[14:26] <infinity> rbasak: Well, there are no removals until that point.
[14:26] <rbasak> Right
[14:27] <awe> infinity, I only did the manual install of grub *after* my system stopped rebooting correctly
[14:27] <awe> and yes, it was a mistake
[14:28] <awe> but didn't really worsen or improve anything
[14:28] <infinity> awe: Check.  What are/were the symptoms of "not booting correctly"?
[14:29] <apw> rtg, yes, you ripped aufs out and switch the way it was updated for v4.1
[14:29] <awe> I'm dual-booting a macair osx + utopic
[14:29] <awe> after yesterday morning's update
[14:29] <rtg> apw, right, I'm using the upstream mechanism
[14:29] <awe> my machine no longer booted into rEFInd
[14:29] <awe> I got a "Your screwed screen"
[14:30] <awe> ( ie. do you wanna re-install OS X from TimeMachine backup, fresh install, go online for help, or bring up disk tools )
[14:30] <apw> rtg, indeed, i mean that is why the disablement didn't get carried over, one was against ubuntu/Makefile, the other against fs/Makefile
[14:30] <rtg> apw, yup
[14:30] <awe> so now on restart, I need to do an Option+Pwr boot, and then select EFI boot
[14:30] <awe> the other options being the two OSX recovery partions
[14:31] <infinity> awe: Curious.  I don't know much of anything about rEFInd, but since rbasak's been trying to be helpful, I'll let him keep at it. :P
[14:31]  * awe heads to yet another mtg
[14:31] <awe> thanks infinity
[14:31] <rbasak> Well, I'm not sure any more :-/
[14:32] <rbasak> Not sure how much more helpful I can be. I was concerned yesterday that there might be a grub2-signed breakage problem, and so when awe's problem appeared, was concerned that it was that.
[14:32] <rbasak> But it wasn't, so perhaps my concern isn't as big of an issue (that's the trouble with a sample size of 1). But that doesn't help at all with awe's actual problem, of which I have no idea.
[14:36] <arges> rodsmith: hey, awe had some issues with rEFInd. Maybe you can help?
[14:36] <rodsmith> Hi. I'm told somebody has a rEFInd question. I'm the current maintainer. What's the question?
[14:36] <rtg> apw, there are significant changes to overlayfs in 4.2; perhaps you could add to your TODO list to forward port "UBUNTU: SAUCE: overlay: add backwards compatible overlayfs format support V3"
[14:36] <apw> rtg, ack
[14:36] <rtg> apw, in unstable master
[14:36] <apw> master or master-next ?
[14:37] <awe> rodsmith, rbasak, I just joined a planning meeting; short version... I updated yesterday, and my macair no longer boots into rEFInd
[14:37] <rtg> apw, I think I'm gonna drop unstable master-next 'cause it really isn't very useful. what do you think ?
[14:37] <awe> now, I have to do an 'Option' + Pwr, and select "EFI Boot" every time
[14:37] <awe> not sure if I re-bless from OS X would fix this?
[14:37] <awe> This is the first time an Ubuntu update has broken things for me
[14:37] <rodsmith> awe: Can you get into both OS X and Ubuntu via the Option key?
[14:38] <awe> I get to rEFInd via the option key, and have only booted Ubuntu from there since
[14:38] <awe> haven't checked OSX
[14:38] <rodsmith> awe: If you can get into OS X, try re-installing rEFInd.
[14:38] <awe> without the option key
[14:38] <awe> I get a "Do you want to re-install or fix things" screen
[14:38] <rodsmith> awe: The Ubuntu update probably tried to install/re-install GRUB, which messed things up.
[14:39] <awe> right
[14:39] <awe> I'll try a re-install from OS X and see if that fixes things
[14:39] <rodsmith> awe: The "re-install or fix things" prompt sounds like APT didn't quite set everything up right.
[14:39] <awe> right
[14:39] <awe> thanks
[15:19] <rtg> manjo, smb: I see that dm-raid45 hasn't been updated since April 2009. We are carrying it as a SAUCE driver. Do you think it is still relevant ?
[15:20] <manjo> rtg, wow... I will need to look coz I am not sure who is using that
[15:20] <smb> rtg, depedns on how many people use a non-Intel fakeraid in bios mode...
[15:21] <smb> Intel MSM and DDS should be handled by mdadm nowadays
[15:21] <smb> rtg, Sure we will notice (after release) when you rip it out for now
[15:22] <rtg> smb, well, I haven't ripped it out yet. I'm just reviewing SAUCE patches
[15:22] <manjo> smb, wasint there an issue where softraid was not write able ?
[15:22] <manjo> smb, May be that issue with mdadm is already fixed
[15:23] <smb> manjo, at some point long time ago. but afaict Trusty works without dmraid
[15:23] <manjo> rtg, will that impact backport kernels for lts ?
[15:24] <rtg> manjo, yup
[15:24] <manjo> ugh
[15:24] <rtg> maybe it should wait until after 16.04 to be removed
[15:24] <manjo> when does precise sunset? /me does the math
[15:25] <manjo> 12.04 .. so 17.04?
[15:25] <rtg> yup
[15:25] <manjo> s**t
[15:26] <smb> rtg, Might be that is what we said before T... But with a crisp memory like mine and we should have written it down... but then maybe we did and I just forgot where
[15:27] <rtg> smb, its no big deal. so far maintenance has been easy, but I wanted to be sure the driver actually still worked
[15:29] <TJ-> rtg: If it's any help I can do some tests with a Promise controller; which kernel/ubuntu release would you want testing?
[15:29] <smb> rtg, I doubt I ever tested the other module ever again after mdadm worked for Intel... and none of my other hw would have fakeraid beyond levels 1
[15:29] <manjo> rtg, also people using vmware stuff might still need that module on precise
[15:29] <rtg> ok, I'll defer removing the driver
[15:47] <apw> rtg, we if we are removing it in 16.04 we should disable it in the main build and re-enable it in the lts-backport
[15:47] <rtg> apw, I was thinking _after_ 16.04
[15:53] <apw> then you might need to support it in the backports up to and including 18.04 in 16.04 even if it is disabled in those releases
[15:53] <apw> because it _is_ enabled in 16.04
[15:55] <rtg> apw, 16.04 is the last backport for 14.04. perhaps we should only enable dm-raid45 in the backport and not in 16.04 proper
[15:57] <apw> rtg, that was my suggestion indeed
[16:09] <infinity> rtg: I concur with apw (and you).  If you intend to drop drivers, do so in 16.04, but add them back to the lts-x kernel.
[16:09] <rtg> infinity, now I just gotta remember to do it
[16:09] <infinity> rtg: Though, you could also drop them in wily and add them back to the lts-w kernel too.
[16:09] <infinity> rtg: Which gives people some time to get used to the idea.
[16:10] <rtg> yup
[16:11] <infinity> rtg: Makes an argument for maintaining lts-w starting around, oh, now, though.  So you don't end up with 73 post-its detailing "stuff that needs to happen on top of the backport". :)
[16:11] <rtg> thats just too logical
[16:12] <unixabg> Greetings, does the 15.04 kernel have multi-layer overlayfs support? (multi-layer meaning more than 2)
[16:15] <apw> unixabg, that is a feature of later kernels, so wily may have it iwth the very latest kernels
[16:19] <unixabg> apw: humble appreciation for response.
[16:20] <apw> unixabg, i don't think 3.19 had it, but i am not 100% sure
[16:21] <unixabg> apw: would you know what version would have such support?
[16:22] <unixabg> I ask since I am wanting to test it some and I need partial .squashfs files for service packs.
[16:23] <apw> unixabg, looks like v4.0 was the first upstream release with it in
[16:23] <apw> so only wily very latest kernel would have it
[16:28] <unixabg> apw: thank you and I will work on testing with that then.
[16:31] <unixabg> apw: what is the shortest route to install and test the 4.x kernel?
[16:31] <apw> well other than running wily, you could install that kernel from the archive by hand
[17:12] <unixabg> apw: thank you for the assistance I will download from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:59] <dsd> hi, i read that Ubuntu Wily might be based on Linux 4.1. is there a Ubuntu kernel git tree for that already?
[19:03] <rtg> dsd, ultimately Wily will release with 4.2
[19:06] <dsd> i see
[19:07] <dsd> and have you started the process of moving the patches from 3.19 to a newer kernel like that?
[19:07] <dsd> or is that going to happen a bit later
[19:08] <rtg> dsd, All 4.1 work is happening here until 4.2 is released: git://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/wily master-next
[19:11] <dsd> thanks!
[20:01] <unixabg> apw: have you worked on casper? I ask since I see an apw there on a commit message.
[21:13] <apw> unixabg, only in a very peripheral way, but the last upload was in my name in trusty yes
[22:24] <SturmFlut> Good midnight! Anybody still awake?


[03:43] <pavlushka> Morning Kilos
[05:13] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[10:31] <zaki> hello pavlushka Kilos
[10:31] <zaki> how are you guys doing?
[10:32] <Kilos> hi zaki
[10:33] <Kilos> im ok ty and you?
[10:33] <zaki> Kilos: what are u doing now?
[10:33] <zaki> i'm fine :)
[10:33] <Kilos> getting ready for bed
[10:33] <zaki> he he
[10:33] <Kilos> 9.33pm here
[10:33] <pavlushka> Hey zaki !
[10:34]  * pavlushka sending some bugs to Kilos Bed :p
[10:34] <zaki> Kilos: how are u now? is everything oky there? how about your daughter?
[10:34] <zaki> pavlushka: hi
[10:34] <zaki> pavlushka: what are u doing?
[10:34] <pavlushka> nothing
[10:34] <zaki> oky
[10:35] <Kilos> we are ok, she tripped and tore a tendon in her ankle so has to keep a brace on for 2 weeks then they will see if the tendon has reattached to the bone
[10:36] <zaki> oh. :|
[15:59] <zaki> bbl
[17:32] <pavlushka> WB zaki !
[17:32] <zaki> hi pavlushka thnx
[17:37] <zaki> pavlushka: https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/000813.htm
[17:42] <zaki> bbl


[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:30]  * ScottK has a Nexus 7 now, so can test PA 3 once it's ready.
[19:22] <Quintasan> ScottK: Splendid
[19:37] <Quintasan> lol
[19:37] <Quintasan> olololololo
[19:37] <Quintasan> ScottK: ping
[19:37] <ScottK> Quintasan: pong
[19:37] <ScottK> I see 4.9.4 piling up in the queue.
[19:37] <ScottK> Is that your doing?
[19:37] <yofel> mine
[19:38] <Quintasan> ScottK: Do you happen to know if we pull additional pacakges depending on the language selected by the user during installation?
[19:38] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[19:38] <ScottK> Quintasan: I don't.
[19:38] <Quintasan> Hmm
[19:38] <ScottK> I think we do if there's an internet connection, but IIRC it's Riddell who understands it best.
[19:38] <yofel> Quintasan: the langpacks are generated from the same source and should all be identical
[19:39] <Quintasan> yofel: I'm interested in the input magic
[19:39] <yofel> hm, I'm not aware of any special casing there either but haven't looked at it much
[19:40] <Quintasan> HRRRR
[19:40] <Quintasan> ScottK: No wonder input magic does not work
[19:40] <Quintasan> lemme check actually
[19:41] <yofel> did you check how ubuntu handles that?
[19:41] <Quintasan> not yet
[19:41] <Quintasan> now I want to see what is exactly wrong with our stuff
[19:42] <Quintasan> yeah
[19:42] <Quintasan> ibus-qt4 does not pull ibus
[19:43] <yofel> o.O
[19:44] <Quintasan> We either pull ibus or patch ibus-qt4 to pull ibus which is more sane
[19:44] <yofel> if it really needs ibus then latter
[19:45] <Quintasan> ibus-qt4 will do nothing by itself
[19:46] <yofel> ScottK: once the langpacks are up 4.9.4 is waiting for you
[19:46] <ScottK> Thanks.  I'll review it tonight.
[19:50] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/633290
[19:50] <Quintasan> Think I can just upload that?
[19:53] <ScottK> Quintasan: No.  Look at the depends it'll drag onto the image.
[19:53]  * ScottK needs to go.  BBL.
[19:53] <Quintasan> urgh
[19:53] <Quintasan> gnome
[20:15] <ScottK> Quintasan: Maybe the language packages that need an IM could depend on ibus?
[20:28] <Quintasan> hmm
[20:29] <Quintasan> ScottK: Makes sense


[13:57] <ricotz> hello, could someone please review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1940556


[09:13] <alan_g> greyback: there's a couple of MirAL MPs I'd appreciate your thoughts on.
[09:13] <greyback> alan_g: sure
[11:42] <alan_g> greyback: you looked at better-resize-in-titlebar-wmp but didn't vote. As the current behaviour is "obviously broken" I'd like to progress the MP...
[11:43] <greyback> alan_g: yes, I know. I was in middle of something else, was leaving proper review until after lunch. Hope that ok
[11:43] <alan_g> greyback: that's fine. checking it wasn't forgotten


[02:21] <qwebirc93898> hi guys
[02:22] <Xihuitl> I have mythbuntu 10.10 installed, and followed the directions for the ATI Remote Wonder (build modified evdev driver)
[02:23] <Xihuitl> everything working fine, but suddenly, every so often (randomly seeming) i am logged out and see the login window
[02:23] <Xihuitl> Turns out I can't even upgrade to 11.04 because it logs me out during upgrade
[03:44] <Xihuitl> Thanks. Turns out the ssh tunnel isn't closing. Update is now running in ssh. I'll see how it does after.
[17:59] <qwebirc66971> hi
[17:59] <Tario> is there any known issue with analog tv and mythbuntu 11.04?
[18:00] <tgm4883> Tario, maybe
[18:00] <tgm4883> what tuner
[18:00] <Tario> after upgrading from 10.10 no recording works anymore
[18:00] <Tario> I've got a sundtek
[18:00] <Tario> and also an hauppauge hvr-4000 neither seems to work
[18:01] <Tario> but they work very well outside of mythtv
[18:01] <tgm4883> hmm, they work outside?
[18:01] <tgm4883> sec
[18:01] <tgm4883> are those ivtv?
[18:02] <tgm4883> Tario, nope, those should work fine
[18:02] <tgm4883> !logs | Tario
[18:02] <Zinn> Tario: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[18:03] <Tario> http://pastebin.com/hYjRJ4xs that's the output in mythtvbackend from when starting live tv
[18:03] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] 2011-04-30 18:52:31.780 MainServer::ANN Playback 2011-04-30 18:52:31.781 adding - Pastebin.com
[18:04] <tgm4883> Tario, hmm, thats an odd one that I haven't seen before
[18:04] <tgm4883> I suggest try deleting and readding your cards in mythtv setup, if that doesn't help maybe as in #mythtv-users
[18:05] <Tario> I already tried that without any success
[18:05] <Tario> ok, I'll look there for help, thanks anyway
[18:05] <tgm4883> which part?
[18:05] <Tario> readding the cards
[18:05] <tgm4883> yea ask in #mythtv-users, they have more users and may have seen it on different platforms
[18:58] <dmz> howdy y'all, i just installed mythbuntu as a frontend, got it talking w/my existing system however i can not get the theme to change; every time i change it it goes back to terra; any thoughts?
[19:08] <dmz> wierd rebooted & it started working