[02:48] <_ebirtaid> tgelter: transmission or deluge
[02:48] <aib> what does the ubuntu disc have to do with my repository?
[02:48] <Home-User_> And i'll show you the error
[02:48] <munk_> BADKITTY: Yup, LjL got it
[02:48] <Pelo> Home-User_,  upgrades are not 100% reliable ,  if you get a ms like this I would suggest you back up your data and clean install
[02:49] <Pelo> Home-User_,  I don'T do pm , sorry
[02:49] <tgelter> _ebirtaid: those are GUI apps..unless they can be run on the command line as well...
[02:49] <Home-User_> damn.
[02:49] <|neon|> i'm having a strange issue i can use my computer for hours almost an entire day as i do sometimes and it works  great, if i leave it on for some reason it will reboot after a while  is there is anything i can do?
[02:49] <Home-User_> This is the 2nd time the PC had to be reinstalled.
[02:49] <druggist> question about netowrking
[02:49] <Home-User_> So there's no solution to it eh?
[02:49] <druggist> i need to uninstall madwifi drivers
[02:49] <_ebirtaid> you didnt specify cli ;p
[02:49] <druggist> how do i do it
[02:49] <BADKITTY> |neon|: Perhaps your cpu is overheating is it an older tower or a laptop?
[02:50] <tgelter> _ebirtaid: I did...reread..
[02:50] <druggist> i typed .madwifi-unload.bash but it says wlan_scan+sta is in use
[02:50] <BADKITTY> druggist: did you look in synaptic?
[02:50] <_ebirtaid> ahhh my bad
[02:50] <ihope_> Is ulimit -Hu 20 supposed to set the current terminal's hard process limit to 20? It gives the message "bash: ulimit: max user processes: cannot modify limit: Invalid argument" and does nothing.
[02:50] <BADKITTY> druggist: eh nm
[02:50] <tgelter> so does anyone know of a cli torrent client that supports selecting parts of a torrent to download?
[02:50] <rockets> Anybody know where plugins go for firefox 3 (NOT extensions, plugins)
[02:51] <druggist> do what?
[02:51] <pgan> neon: have you seen it reboot?
[02:51] <|neon|> BADKITTY: water cooled rig
[02:51] <Pelo> rockets, probablay in ~/.mozilla/...
[02:51] <rockets> Pelo, Yes, I looked there.
[02:51] <|neon|> besides it works great while i am using it no matter how long
[02:52] <BADKITTY> |neon|: OIC well that shouldn't be the problem then ... how is the hard drive?? New / old .. good condition?
[02:52] <gogeta> |neon| lol water cooled no wonder why its a overclocked unstable
[02:52] <|neon|> sunday i was on it for almost 9 hours without a hitch , i lefted unattended for about an hour and it rebooted
[02:53] <BADKITTY> druggist: I think Im on crack.. the drivers wouldn't be showing in synaptic would they?
[02:53] <gogeta> |neon| well i told ya why when you overclock you lose stabilty and have heat isues
[02:53] <gogeta> |neon| and reduce your prossers life by a larg amount
[02:54] <gogeta> |neon| next time dont be so cheap just buy a faster prosser
[02:54] <progvb> who does know about CSS??
[02:54] <BADKITTY> What is the best media player for ubuntu?
[02:54] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid: is it not possible to desktop items over top of conky?
[02:54] <|neon|> you aremissing my point it was an overheating issue it will do it while i use it like i mentioned sunday for 9 hhhrs straight it reboots when i am not using the computer within a few minutes of not using it
[02:54] <LjL> !best > BADKITTY    (BADKITTY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:54] <gogeta> |neon| well your prossers overclock i whont be suprised if it dies soon
[02:55] <BADKITTY> LjL: alright well popular then...
[02:55] <RiM> HELP ANYONE HELP  I suddenly lost my gnome desktop, when I boot up I get an xfe desktop. The last thing I did to the system was update it.
[02:55] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: what do you mean?
[02:55] <LjL> BADKITTY: popular as in "hey, you 1156 people in this channel, tell me all what you're using for a media player"?
[02:55] <phaedra> RiM, Check the default in the login...
[02:55] <gogeta> RiM just go to session on your login screen and sitch it back to gnome
[02:55] <progvb> who does know about CSS??
[02:55] <|neon|> gogeta: you keep refering to my cpu been oveclcok but have not adress my question, my temps are well within limits trust me on that one
[02:55] <_ebirtaid> ljl whats with the floddbots
[02:55] <BADKITTY> LjL: sure .. are y ou trying to make my day more miserable then it already was?
[02:56] <LjL> _ebirtaid: they're fine. they're a test.
[02:56] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  i have a file on my desktop i tried to drag over top of my conky read out...the file went behind conky and i wasnt able to see the file anymore
[02:56] <gogeta> |neon| ill repeate your cpu is now unstabl
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !i686
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i686 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !386
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 386 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !686
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !pentium3
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pentium3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <Pelo> DRtuxthepenguin, what do you need to know ?
[02:56] <jrib> !msgthebot | DRtuxthepenguin
[02:56] <ubotu> DRtuxthepenguin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:56] <gogeta> |neon| you get all kinds of weardness when you mess with them
[02:56] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: ah, yea conky uses pseudo transparency so it will do that
[02:57] <gogeta> |neon| isue = hardware
[02:57] <_ebirtaid> you may want to try messing with own window settings it may help
[02:57] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  bummer
[02:57] <DRtuxthepenguin> Pelo: is ubuntu optimized for pentium 3
[02:57] <ridge> i'm looking for a good editor for Python....i don't like IDLE....
[02:57] <Pelo> DRtuxthepenguin, usg the i386 version
[02:57] <Pelo> use
[02:57] <DRtuxthepenguin> ok
[02:57] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up automatically; I have to run dhclient when I log in.  /var/log/syslog says NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  Ideas anyone?
[02:57] <Pelo> ridge,  ask in #python for their opinion
[02:57] <fajar2> !mp3
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <BADKITTY> LjL: I'm looking for something like Amarok but less KDEish
[02:58] <ridge> Pelo: i don't know how to join #python.....irc is saying that i need to be identified, or something like that
[02:58] <phaedra> pgan, Run network-manager and re-enable it.
[02:58] <LjL> !info exaile > BADKITTY
[02:58] <_ebirtaid> badkitty: exaile
[02:58] <Pelo> pgan,  you might be able to chagne the default in menu > sytem >admin > network
[02:58] <_ebirtaid> ha beat you
[02:58] <|neon|> i agree oc'ing the cpu can create issues if i used the computer for 9 hrs withouit a hicup and then when i do not touch the keyboard for any number of minutes it reboots itself and this can be replicated as i found out the computer had rebooted today then i used it for about 2 hrs nothing happened , then i went away for about 1/2 hr to when i returned the computer had rebooted since then almost 3
[02:58] <LjL> _ebirtaid: not on my screen.
[02:58] <BADKITTY> ebirtaid: exaile vs . rhythmbox is it??
[02:59] <|neon|> hrs
[02:59] <_ebirtaid> wack ljl
[02:59] <Pelo> ridge, type  /nickserv help register for info on registering, then you will be able to join
[02:59] <JeffD> since my notebook went on battery power, my external drives are mounted with umask 077; how to fix?
[02:59] <_ebirtaid> badkitty how do you mean
[02:59] <ridge> Pelo, thank you :)
[02:59] <gogeta> |neon| thats called being unstable wile idle
[02:59] <JeffD> one of these drives is my mail store, so now Thunderbird won't work
[02:59] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: what are the differences? and I was asking if that was the name of one .. rhythmbox?
[03:00] <gogeta> |neon| overclocking weardness can be anywhere
[03:00] <pgan> phaedra: re-run it once?  Is that supposed to make it connect by default?
[03:00] <tatterdemalian> Hi!
[03:00] <_ebirtaid> rythmbox is a gnome media player, yes; exaile is also just more amarok-ish
[03:00] <_ebirtaid> I dont use either personally
[03:00] <pgan> pelo: the default is now roaming mode.  What should it be?
[03:00] <Pelo> JeffD,  changing power source shold not affect your fstab settings,  see if you have a backup of yoru fstab file and try restoring it
[03:00] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: what do you use?
[03:00] <_ebirtaid> mpd
[03:01] <Pelo> pgan, I'm not an expert but try jsut setting it to eth1 which is the one you want I beleive
[03:01] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: any reason?
[03:01] <_ebirtaid> when I log out of x it still plays
[03:01] <gogeta> |neon| i would look up your prosser spechs on all the weardness you get wile overclocking
[03:01] <gogeta> |neon| thats where you will find a fix
[03:01] <RiM> I tried switching users, and I tried logging out and relogging on. I did not see any option to switch back to gnome, or for that matter any option at all pertaining to logins
[03:01] <pipegeek> hmm
[03:01] <pipegeek> the noscript plugin package in gutsy depends on iceweasel, rather than firefox, and so won't install.
[03:01] <Pelo> pgan,  is this an upgrade to gutsy ?  I know I had to redo my network config because it ddint, import properly , you might want to consider doing that if you upgraded
[03:02] <pipegeek> that seems silly.
[03:02] <RiM> Is there a command to switch from a terminal?
[03:02] <aib> why does Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon have a line in /etc/apt/sources.list that causes it to look for packages in the installation CD by default?!
[03:02] <pgan> Pelo: thanks.  Perhaps you can compare with yours.
[03:02] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: ahh I see.. is that the main reason? I can't see myself spending so much time on this box outside of X
[03:02] <JeffD> Pelo: apparently it's hotplug rather than fstab-related - any ideas? fstab has nothing about the external drives
[03:02] <Pelo> pgan, I jsut have a basic dsl connection, nothing you can realy compare with
[03:02] <|neon|> gogeta: i will do this again tonight , i will boot into windows and run prime 95 on all 4 cores and i guarantee you tomorrow morning when i get up the computer will have not rebooted then i will let it sit all day at idle while on windows and again it will not reboot , now i am not saying windows is better i am jsut saying that maybe i am missing something
[03:02] <phaedra> pgan, No, you run it to set eth0 back up.  System>Administration>Network
[03:02] <tatterdemalian> Why does avahi keep stealing my IPv4 protocol? For that matter, HOW does it keep stealing it?
[03:02] <ToddEDM> hey, any of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?
[03:02] <_ebirtaid> badkitty:  it also has an mpd extension and command line controls which is nice for me
[03:02] <r00723r0> how do i set a download speed limit in rtorrent?
[03:02] <_ebirtaid> I dont need a gui for my music player its just preference
[03:02] <adorablepuppy> !dvd
[03:02] <pgan> Pelo, me too.
[03:02] <Pelo> JeffD, sorry I don't know , maybe change the drive owner ?
[03:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:02] <gogeta> |neon| unstable wile idel
[03:03] <JeffD> Pelo: how?
[03:03] <gogeta> |neon| if you keep it busy it whont reboot
[03:03] <_ebirtaid> errr conky extension
[03:03] <ToddEDM> !universe
[03:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:03] <|neon|> gogeta: i been doing this for a while trust me is not hardware related
[03:03] <gogeta> |neon| windows normaly always has something taxing it a bit
[03:03] <Pelo> pgan,  I though you were wifi ? just redo your  pppoecomf then and reenter your data
[03:03] <adorablepuppy> :) That bot is useful.
[03:03] <pgan> Pelo and phaedra: Under the Network Settings dialog, I have a wired connection and a modem connection...
[03:03] <Pelo> JeffD,  sudo chown /dev/whatever  user:user I think
[03:04] <JeffD> Pelo: oh, yeah. (*thwack*). Let me check
[03:04] <xyyzzz> How do I zip something from the command line?
[03:04] <gogeta> |neon| its in the power managment i would assume
[03:04] <Pelo> pgan,  should be in wired, if you donT' have a wifi just uncheck the roaming setting you don'T need it
[03:04] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: do you know if exaile requires mysql?
[03:04] <phaedra> pgan, It's the wired...
[03:04] <pgan> Pelo, I tried that, but NetworkManager still starts up
[03:04] <gogeta> |neon| trys to shutdown the prosser to save power sence its doing knothing and couses it to mess up
[03:04] <|neon|> gogeta: i unistalled the powernowd already
[03:05] <ToddEDM> any of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| turn same feature on windows bet it will rebooot
[03:05] <JeffD> Pelo: currently set uid root and gid plugdev; is that what it should be?
[03:05] <Pelo> pgan,  network manager must start,  it's jsut starting wrong
[03:05] <ToddEDM> !brightness
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brightness - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| linux uses more then powernow
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| it also uses acpi
[03:05] <pgan> phaedra: under the Wired properties, I have roaming mode enabled
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| and apm
[03:05] <Pelo> JeffD, that's a bit over my head
[03:05] <|neon|> gogeta: now we are getting to my question
[03:05] <_ebirtaid> badkitty: dunno
[03:05] <|neon|> how can i turn those off
[03:06] <phaedra> pgan, Do you have the wireless icon in the top right of the screen?
[03:06] <gogeta> |neon| boot commands
[03:06] <JeffD> whoever was asking about brightness - yes, it did that for me the first time, too; use your Fn keys to adjust and it should stay adjusted after you reboot
[03:06] <gogeta> |neon| acpi=off apm=off noapic
[03:06] <pgan> phaedra: no, I don't have a wireless card either
[03:06] <JeffD> thanks anyway, all.....
[03:06] <gogeta> linux will have no power mangment
[03:06] <xyyzzz> What command do you use to zip something from the command line? Which man page should I be reading?
[03:06] <Pelo> xyyzzz, man tar
[03:07] <xyyzzz> Pelo, thanks, will read that now =+)
[03:07] <|neon|> gogeta: will try that once i do some reading on them and see i will 1st try regular speeds on the cpu+memory before i go turning off stuff
[03:07] <gogeta> |neon| just add em to grub
[03:07] <Pelo> xyyzzz,  there is also a man zip
[03:07] <fiveiron> anyone know why modprobe would say a module isnt found even after i successfully do a "insmod" on it, and lsmod shows that it is loaded?
[03:07] <pgan> Pelo: when I disable roaming mode, it NetworkManager still starts and disables eth0.
[03:07] <phaedra> pgan, Okay...  Can you bring up the network settings manager and select the wired connection then click on properties?
[03:07] <Pelo> fiveiron, spelling mistake ?
[03:08] <fiveiron> Pelo, nope
[03:08] <gogeta> |neon| well it seems your overclock cant go idel without crashing
[03:08] <fiveiron> I can screenshot the entire process for you
[03:08] <tatterdemalian> Can anyone help me? I tried asking on #avahi, and they just told me "Ubuntu sucks, use FreeBSD instead"
[03:08] <fiveiron> if you'd like
[03:08] <RiM> HELP I lost my gnome screen, do not know how. IN response to a prior questio n I tried to get it back by switching users but it did not work, neither did logging out/backin and neither did a reboot. Does anyone know the terminal command to start up gnome? I know there was one in redhat, don't remember it and don't know it it exists in ubuntu
[03:08] <gogeta> |neon| probly stable at normel modes
[03:08] <pgan> phaedra: OK, Network Settingss manager is up, selected "wired connection" and Properties button
[03:09] <|neon|> gogeta: it is a possibility that's why i will try running nnormal speeds for a while and see how it behaves
[03:09] <Pelo> RiM, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[03:09] <BADKITTY> What is the package that allows ubuntu to access stuff on NTFS partitions
[03:09] <Pelo> BADKITTY, ntfs-3g
[03:09] <phaedra> pgan, Deselect the Enable roaming mode
[03:09] <BADKITTY> Pelo: Does Gutsy come packaged with it already?
[03:09] <pgan> Deselected
[03:09] <LjL> !ntfs-3g > BADKITTY    (BADKITTY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:10] <pgan> then selecting Configuration: Automatic (DHCP)
[03:10] <aib> why does Gibbon keep have `cdrom' as a source of packages after installation? how many people keep the CD in after installation?
[03:10] <BADKITTY> thanks LjL
[03:10] <Pelo> BADKITTY, gutsy is suppose to read/write ntfs by default out of the box, but I upgraded so I can'T verify
[03:10] <desertc> aib: people in poor countries
[03:10] <phaedra> pgan, Under connection properties use the pulldown to select dhcp.
[03:10] <tatterdemalian> Is Gutsy suffering from the same avahi bug Edgy had? If so, why can't I remove it without making my system crash?
[03:10] <tonytt> has anyone encountered a problum installing ubuntu with a particualar ati video card ?
[03:10] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  hey what does it mean if i want "conky to be forked in the background"?
[03:11] <gogeta> |neon| linux behaves drffrently in windows so just couse overclocking is stable in windows dosent mean it will be in linux
[03:11] <Pelo> aib, I keep the dvd in, it saves on bandwith when I install progs I don'T never tried before
[03:11] <tatterdemalian> Pelo: Mine did OTB
[03:11] <gogeta> |neon| nature of the trade
[03:11] <Pelo> tatterdemalian, thanks for comfirming
[03:11] <gnychis> can somebody help me with a problem pertaining to a apt-get install -f error? http://rafb.net/p/6YQCeK50.html ... i would greatly appreciate it, as it is blocking the installation of any packages
[03:11] <aib> where do I complain about this behavior?
[03:12] <softoninox> howto repair file mail.log?
[03:12] <phaedra> pgan, connection settings rather...
[03:12] <|neon|> gogeta: since i am new to linux i will take that to face value :) and run the system at stock speeds for a while instead of oc'ed
[03:12] <techie> .net 6667
[03:12] <RiM_> HELP Again I lost my gnome interface I tried starting it via the terminal, received a message telling me it was stsrting up, then nothing. Even lost my irc connection and had to reconnect
[03:12] <tatterdemalian> It did fine transferring files from a Vista partition, which is the latest NTFS version
[03:12] <NightDragon> Hello, i am trying to enable 3d Acceleration (and more importanlty, compiz-fusion) on ubuntu gutsy, and i went through the tutorial on how to do it , did all the steps, still doesnt work. I own an Radeon mobility M6 LY, and my machine is a Sony Vaio PCG-Z1VA. any help? :)
[03:12] <ToddEDM> any of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?
[03:12] <Pelo> aib, what behavior ? if you donT' like the cd used as a source jsut remove it from the source list,  menu > sytem < admin> sofware sources, uncheck it on the first tab
[03:13] <gogeta> |neon| but the 3 commands i gave you for for adding to grub kills the power managment meaning the prosser will run at full power at al times
[03:13] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: What is it doing / not doing?
[03:13] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:13] <BADKITTY> Pelo: night.. thanks
[03:13] <gogeta> |neon| linux acully will clock down a prosser via softwhere to save power
[03:13] <softoninox> Hello, howto repair file mail.log?
[03:13] <sfears> i had problems on my gateway laptop after i installed ubuntu.. it would shut down becuase it was too hot
[03:13] <gogeta> |neon| i bet that overclock doesent like that at all
[03:13] <tatterdemalian> ToddEDM: Not really, but I came in from Vista... screen seems mighty bright to me, maybe it's an acpi problem?
[03:14] <NightDragon> badkitty: it wont enable "extra visual effects"
[03:14] <scguy318> sfears: is it actually really hot or is it misreading the temperature sensor(s)?
[03:14] <ToddEDM> hmmmmm
[03:14] <pgan> hitting OK and closing
[03:14] <sfears> really hot
[03:14] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Did you install the package already?
[03:14] <sfears> burn my leg hot
[03:14] <ToddEDM> lol
[03:14] <scguy318> sfears: ah, probably some fans aren't getting turned on or ze daemons
[03:14] <NightDragon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246746
[03:14] <BADKITTY> Hey sfears :-P
[03:14] <scguy318> or CPU scalin
[03:14] <|neon|> gogeta: thx for the great info i will do some reading and try a few of the things you suggested
[03:14] <sfears> hello BADKITTY
[03:14] <NightDragon> i followed what was in that tutorial on the advice of you guys.
[03:14] <tatterdemalian> My laptop does do some funny things, like not dim the screen on battery power when I tell it to...
[03:15] <NightDragon> when i try to hit the "extra" radio button on visual effects, the following error occurs:
[03:15] <NightDragon> "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[03:15] <tatterdemalian> And, of course, randomly disconnects me from the internet when avahi steals my IPv4 protocol, and nobody believes me when I tell them about it
[03:16] <YouKnowMe> I can't get any sound to play from kmid, other sounds work, but not kmid even though it says it is playing. Help?
[03:16] <BADKITTY> NightDragon .. did you ever do this: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:16] <gogeta> |neon| well if i rember overclock its a incrase in power cpu scaling is probly gonna conflict
[03:17] <tatterdemalian> NightDragon: That happens if you can't use 3d hardware acceleration... I had that problem until I installed the restricted nVidia drivers
[03:17] <sn00zer> anyone know how to tell aptitude that packages are not unused and stop trying to remove them?
[03:17] <pgan> phaedra: After I disanled roaming mode, my connection died.  I had to run dhclient to re-connect.  The /var/log/syslog output is at http://pastebin.com/m635c6071
[03:17] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Have you tested to see if your 3d acceleration is wkg?
[03:17] <NightDragon> works fine on windows
[03:17] <NightDragon> (dual boot)
[03:17] <amjad> why can not i configure my network in gutsy gibibon, even though i am root
[03:18] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: I'm guessing it's something to do with not having the restricted drivers...
[03:18] <amjad> it says HAL initlization failed
[03:18] <ebirtaid> amjad: error?
[03:18] <ebirtaid> errr
[03:18] <desertc> YouKnowMe: Talk with the kmid people yet?
[03:18] <ebirtaid> is hal enabled?
[03:18] <tatterdemalian> amjad: I don't know much yet, but that sounds bad
[03:18] <NightDragon> what kind of restricted drivers?
[03:18] <casio1374633> /par/
[03:18] <BADKITTY> The restricted drivers for your video card
[03:18] <NightDragon> yeah ususally any error with "HAL" in it is realyl bad
[03:19] <NightDragon> dont know where to get them
[03:19] <tatterdemalian> HAL is the interface to the hardware... if that goes down, odds are you can't use critical parts of your machine
[03:19] <phaedra> pgan, Yes...  you'll need to also set the connection properties to dhcp too.  If you do that you can restart the net with 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[03:19] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: What kind of card do you have? ATI?
[03:19] <|neon|> gogeta: i am running a Q6600 2.4 stock at 3.9 memory also oc'ed just slightly the entire rig is water cooled , while that does not guarantee anything i regularly rn stress test to make sure components are not degrading hard to really tell but at least doing so gives me an indication now i am quite familiar with the windows works but not so familiar with linux tho i am learning
[03:20] <NightDragon> yeah
[03:20] <NightDragon> ati mobility M6
[03:20] <NightDragon> LY
[03:20] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: System-Administration-Restricted Drivers Management
[03:20] <markjames> how do I burn an ISO DVD via the command line?
[03:21] <tatterdemalian> Restricted drivers are drivers that aren't open-source... usually hacked or reverse-engineered Windows drivers
[03:21] <orland> how to change thunar font in fluxbox ?
[03:21] <gogeta> |neon| well its probly in the linux power managment unfortanly its just not all that great disabling it should allow the overclock to avoideing cloiiding with the cpu scaling
[03:21] <perrako> Anyone know what packages to use for DVD- Audio playback in linux?
[03:21] <pgan> phaedra: isnt' the /etc/init.d script supposed to be run automatically when I start up?
[03:21] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: What kind of nvidia card do you have? I never had problems getting mine to work right
[03:21] <gogeta> |neon| at normal sppeds there shoudent be a issue
[03:21] <NightDragon> theres nothing that is realted into the display driver in there
[03:21] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Geforce Go 6100
[03:21] <|neon|> brb wanna try something
[03:22] <bulio> how do I burn an ISO DVD via the command line?
[03:22] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: hmm strange.. there has always been good nvidia support ... wonder if it is just the go series that wasn't included
[03:22] <phaedra> pgan, This script is the network startup and yes it does, but when you change these settings you need to restart the net for the settings to take hold.  You don't need to reboot ala-windows.
[03:22] <pgan> phaedra: now that roaming is disabled and dhcp selected, I'll restart and see if the connection comes up automatically.  Right?
[03:23] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Do a google search for something like ubuntu ATI restricted driver
[03:23] <phaedra> pgan, No...  just use the networking script...
[03:23] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Oh, the restricted driver works fine, I just had to tell Ubuntu to install and use it first... it doesn't, out of the box, due to the licensing issues
[03:23] <phaedra> pgan, Or you can reboot to test...
[03:23] <pgan> phaedra: my initial problem was that the connection does not come up automatically when I start up.  That's the problem I want to solve
[03:23] <orland> how to change thunar font in fluxbox ?
[03:23] <desertc> !patience
[03:23] <phaedra> pgan, Okay...  Go ahead and reboot then.
[03:23] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:23] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: Oh yeah ok of course!
[03:24] <tatterdemalian> NightDragon: There may not be one, if it's a brand shiny new card. Hacking and reverse enginnering takes time, and obviously ATI isn't going to lift a finger to help
[03:26] <orland> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines/list
[03:26] <mavi-> actually amd/ati released their specs and are collaborating on a driver or two iirc
[03:26] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: try glxgears in a terminal
[03:26] <carl_> hey guys, hello, I want to install ubuntu on hp desktop computer, I was conected through USB conection, so, will ubuntu conect to internet automaticaly , my computer doesn't have a ethernet conection.
[03:26] <desertc> mavi-: correct.  the 2d driver is already out
[03:26] <NightDragon> guys my machine is from 2003
[03:26] <tatterdemalian> mavi-: Cool... wonder if that includes NightDragon's card?
[03:26] <NightDragon> and its a popular card, if a whole forum tut was written on it
[03:27] <desertc> carl_: I believe so.
[03:27] <NightDragon> i just am total linux noobishness
[03:27] <phaedra> carl_, Is there a usb networking card on the usb port?
[03:27] <tatterdemalian> NightDragon: Okay, didn't know that... I don't keep up on graphics card news like I used to
[03:27] <BADKITTY> carl_: yeah i think it should depending on the card ... do you have the iso downloaded?
[03:27] <NightDragon> lol
[03:27] <NightDragon> its all good...
[03:27] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: try typing glxgears in a terminal and tell me if it runs
[03:28] <tatterdemalian> I grabbed the reins after going a thousand dollars into debt buying six cards in the space of about a month
[03:28] <carl_> phaedra, there is not, mi modem is a device outside, and it is conected throght USB only
[03:28] <tatterdemalian> Back when Voodoo was still around
[03:28] <Vovk> hey, is there a way that I can set an alarm on my computer to wake me up at 6:40 by playing a song? assuming the computer is on and logged in to my account
[03:28] <NightDragon> glx gears = displays some gears
[03:28] <desertc> vovk: cron
[03:29] <Vovk> desertc: please explain? :)
[03:29] <carl_> phaedra, conection will be detected automaticaly or I have to do something ?
[03:29] <desertc> vovk: please google.  :)
[03:29] <NightDragon> lol tatter... poor 3dfx.. voodoo wasnt half bad back in the day
[03:29] <scguy318> Vovk: yep, add something to your cron :P
[03:29] <jmolek28> i was trying to install ubuntu today and my cd drive stopped working.. has this happened to anyone else?
[03:29] <Vovk> desertc: fair enough :)
[03:29] <jmolek28> the drive worked fine until the live cd
[03:29] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Ok hold on I gotta see how to output info into a window to test how well its wkg
[03:29] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Uh, it might just run... but at about one frame every ten seconds, and bring the system to its knees in the process
[03:30] <desertc> jmolek28: did you check the integrity?
[03:30] <phaedra> carl_, Okay...  that might pose a problem.  Your best bet is to check to see if the usb modem is supported or just boot the livecd to see if it is recognized.
[03:30] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: Yeah thats why i wanna see the specs
[03:30] <Vovk> ok
[03:30] <phaedra> carl_, Boot the cd and try lsusb from a terminal after you login.
[03:30] <Cryoniq> Anyone been able to access a shared folder with bluetooth from a mobile phone? Like.. I connect from my mobile phone, get a directory in it from my computer where I can choose files to download from it?
[03:31] <tatterdemalian> I found that out too, since the first thing I did was play with the screensavers... OpenGL is more willing to do software rendering than I am to wait for it
[03:31] <carl_> phaedra, I was reading a paper, in wich I think it is needed to load any module :(
[03:31] <Vovk> new question... is there a GUI for cron? I just need to do it tonight and I would prefer not taking an hour or so to learn how to do it... (although I will if need be)
[03:31] <phaedra> carl_, What brand of modem is this?
[03:31] <billenium> i want to copy and paste soemthing to lib, how do i do this?
[03:31] <Cryoniq> All features I found out so far is to send from phone, send to phone or browse phones memory from computer.. but not browse a specified directory ON my computer from my mobile phone over bluetooth...
[03:32] <carl_> phaedra: 2WIRE INFINITUM telmex,
[03:32] <Cryoniq> If anyone know if this is possible and if there is a solution it would be great..
[03:33] <tatterdemalian> I thought I had crashed the system when I first previewed Solarwinds
[03:33] <desertc> vovk: no
[03:33] <carl_> phaedra, it has two conection, one for ethernet conection (this I ocupy for my laptop) and one USB for my desktop computer from windows
[03:33] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalien: haha
[03:33] <desertc> vovk: it's not complex -- you should learn it
[03:34] <phaedra> carl_, I found a link but it's in spanish...  You want it?
[03:34] <BADKITTY> I have a second HD that isn't auto mounting, and I don't know if I am seeing it at all in linux .. any help?
[03:34] <Vovk> desertc: ok then :)
[03:34] <carl_> phaedra, I speak spanish :D
[03:35] <carl_> phaedra, could you give it to me ?
[03:35] <sizzam> how do i control the resolution that is displayed when i go into CTRL+ALT+F1?  Im on a widescreen laptop and the screen is cut off when i go into that terminal screen
[03:35] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Have you looked in the Hardware Informatin for it?
[03:35] <nightdragon_> hey
[03:35] <nightdragon_> its me again
[03:35] <shirish> hi guys, does anybody know of some good project management systems/PMS they can tell me?
[03:35] <tatterdemalian> nightdragon_: I knew it was gonna crash
[03:35] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: THis time let gears run and tell me how many fps you are seeing
[03:35] <nightdragon_> badkitty: sorry, i tried to enable desktop effects and it crashed, lol
[03:35] <phaedra> carl_ Okay ;)  Si esta aqui...  http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/67596
[03:35] <carl_> phaedra, ok thanks man.
[03:36] <jmolek28> is there a way to install ubuntu from a usb drive?
[03:36] <phaedra> carl_,  np...
[03:36] <desertc> jmolek28: yes
[03:36] <desertc> jmolek28: sorry, *from* a usb drive.  I'm not sure, never heard of that
[03:36] <tatterdemalian> jmolek: Wow. Maybe if your BIOS will let you boot from USB
[03:36] <Vovk> you're right, it's not very hard at all.   I see how to set it to run on a single day in a week, but how can I get it to run every day except for the weekends (without writing all the stuff over 5 times?)
[03:36] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: looking ... dont see it .. its a new 500 gig drive...
[03:37] <AR_se> hi
[03:37] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: If you don't see it, Ubuntu isn't recognizing it... dunno what else to say
[03:37] <pgan> phaedra: My eth0 network still did not come up after I rebooted.  Roaming mode is still disabled and DHCP is enabled in Network Settings.  The messages in /var/log/syslog are at http://pastebin.com/d45d5c2b9
[03:38] <Vovk> one more question about cron, does the week start on monday or sunday for the day of the week setting?
[03:38] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: do you see any related messages when you type 'dmesg' ?
[03:38] <nightdragon_> is there seriously 1135 users in this channel? jeez
[03:38] <pgan> What seems strange to me is the message "NetworkManager: <information>^IDeactivating device eth0."
[03:40] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: also (and I'm sorry if you already answered this), but do you have another OS installed that can see the disk (i.e. Windows)?  Do you know if it works at all?
[03:41] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: This is a whole bunch of output: I didn't see any msg... I do have a xp installation that can see the drive fine
[03:41] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: How many fps are you getting in glxgears?
[03:41] <phaedra> pgan, check /etc/network/interfaces for the card...  I see it's a xircom.  I have a Thinkpad too but I use wireless only now.
[03:41] <jimjam> Is there a way to mount NTFS partitions in fstab such that I have continual RW permissions?
[03:41] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: is it connected via USB, by SATA, or IDE?
[03:42] <nichos> can anyone tell me where the config file is for grdesktop?
[03:42] <sars> where can I find example for conforming of  apache2.2.6+tomcat6.0.14 ?
[03:42] <nichos> its not in the documentation
[03:43] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I have both the installation drive and the second drive using Sata: I also have two USB drives that do show up (when they are plugged in) and a third SATA that is sitting doing nothing cause my board only has 2 sata ports
[03:43] <sars> who can  give me the url for my need
[03:43] <pgan> phaedra: Yes, it's a xircom.  /etc/network/interfaces includes the lines "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "auto eth0"
[03:43] <nightdragon_> badkitty: like 800 or so
[03:43] <dfcarney> and both the SATA drives are on the same controller?  hmmm...
[03:43] <Vovk> ok... some questions about crontab
[03:43] <nightdragon_> nope... 197
[03:44] <Vovk> Do I have to run sudo in front of crontab -e? what day of the week does it start on? do I have to do anything besides edit the file?
[03:44] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: type something like "dmesg | grep sd" and browse the output to see if the second drive shows up in the messages
[03:44] <BADKITTY> nightdragon - yeah I doubt you have the correct drivers ..mine is outputting atleast 2000 - 3500
[03:44] <pgan> phaedra: I have a Thinkpad A21m which does not have a network card, and I can't find a PCMCIA one that works with Linux.  But that's another issue.
[03:44] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: you should see entries for sda, sdb, etc... for each disk (if they're detected)
[03:45] <tatterdemalian> How many letters are allowed in freenode quit messages?
[03:45] <scguy318> pgan: if that PCMCIA card doesn't have a native Linux driver try ndiswrapper
[03:45] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I think I see it as sdb, its the only one with 500 gigs ...
[03:46] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: so the kernel sees it
[03:46] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: that's good.  is it listed in /proc/scsi/scsi?
[03:46] <nightdragon_> badkitty: how to fix?
[03:46] <sfears> i wish linksys would just get with it and have linux drivers... bastards
[03:47] <broken> haha
[03:47] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: hang on bud..
[03:47] <broken> Is it like possible that software won't work after building a computer.
[03:47] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: if so, type 'cat /proc/partitions' to see if the partition table on the disk is recognized
[03:47] <sfears> what about internal wireless network, i have it on my laptop, but i have no idea how to work it, anyone know where i should start?
[03:47] <broken> It seems eveyrthing is just dieing
[03:48] <pgan> scguy318: it doesn't work too well with ndiswrapper either.
[03:48] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I think it is in there, how do I use cat?
[03:48] <jordan> is it possible to use compiz in gutsy with ATI drivers (fglrx)?
[03:48] <BADKITTY> oh I mistyped no wonder
[03:49] <pgan> scguy318: I wish I could just buy something that has Linux drivers :-/
[03:49] <sfears> what does the cat command stand for?
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    16  488386584 sdb
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    17  488384001 sdb1
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    16  488386584 sdb
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    17  488384001 sdb1
[03:49] <dfcarney> sfears: concatenate
[03:49] <sfears> wtf?
[03:49] <BADKITTY> Sorry for that
[03:49] <pgan> sfears: open a terminal and type "man cat"
[03:49] <tomd123> does anyone know of a utility for linux so i can transfer mp3's into my ipod?
[03:49] <phaedra> pgan, there are plenty of pcmcia cards that work in linux...  I use a trendnet on my thinkpad with 7.04...  the interfaces file is fine.  I think it might be the xircom...  dmesg reports that 'xircom_cb' doesn't support carrier detection.
[03:49] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: (don't paste output to the forum).  anyhow, looks like the partition is there
[03:50] <sfears> if this was scrabble i'd make you look that word up
[03:50] <scguy318> sfears: concatenate
[03:50] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I know thats why i siad sorry.. i figure 2 lines max is ok
[03:50] <phaedra> pgan, It looks like it's the driver...
[03:50] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: you'll want to try something like "sudo mount -t <filesystem type> /dev/sdb1 /media/disk"
[03:50] <duvnell> ubuntu doesn't use sysv init.. what do you call what it does use?  I wanted to read up on it
[03:50] <BADKITTY> tomd123: cli or graphical?
[03:50] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: make sure that "/media/disk" exists and isn't used by something else
[03:51] <scguy318> duvnell: Upstart I think
[03:51] <tatterdemalian> How do I get avahi to leave mt wlan0 interface alone?
[03:51] <duvnell> thx
[03:51] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: it can be any directory -- you just need a mount point
[03:51] <pgan> phaedra: I saw that message... so the driver does not support it, eh?  But can't I stop NetworkManager from disabling the connection?
[03:51] <tomd123> badkitty: graphical
[03:51] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: is it ntfs?
[03:51] <pgan> phaedra: and supposedly your xircom card worked as expected  - connection was up when you boot?
[03:52] <pgan> phaedra: perhaps if I upgrade to gutsy?
[03:52] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Yeah it should be.. thats how I remember formatting it
[03:52] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: so you'll want to use "sudo mount -t ntfs ..."
[03:52] <cubedsi> if anyone is using X.org to disply multi screens or devices on ubuntu could you pastebin me your xorg.conf
[03:52] <BADKITTY> tomd123: Umm doesn't rhythmbox have ipod ability?
[03:52] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: that'll give you read-only access.  for read-write, you'll want to read up on ntfs-3g
[03:52] <cubedsi> i mean multi-x or dual head display
[03:53] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: it didn't work it said no such file ... FUSE mount point creation failed
[03:53] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: sure.. can you gimme a minute
[03:53] <tomd123> badkitty: will it let me transfer files to my ipod?
[03:53] <tjs> G'day, I'm running the latest release, I've installed xfonts-jmk to get the 'neep' font for my terminal, I've run sudo fc-cache -f -v  to update the cache, its still not available as a font to gnome-terminal, nor is it appearing in fonts:/// from nautilus
[03:53] <cubedsi> yeah, YES TY!
[03:53] <Evanlec> anyone here got hackintosh running? ;p
[03:53] <Jupp2> Evanlec, yes
[03:53] <sfears> nope.. but i saw the video yesterday, looks cool
[03:53] <Evanlec> Jupp2, yea?
[03:53] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: so create the directory first with "sudo mkdir /media/disk"
[03:54] <BADKITTY> tomd123: I really think so.. google rhythmbox ubuntu and read the abilities. its either that one or  ....
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i just got a Leopard disc
[03:54] <kuta> how to update kubuntu manaually
[03:54] <Jupp2> Evanlec, retail?
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i pop it in my drive and it comes up as "bootcamp"
[03:54] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Oh did I not pay attention when you said it had to exist already?
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, not sure, my stepmother got it from apple in the mail...
[03:54] <phaedra> pgan, My eth0 always worked it's just the modem section that always gave me trouble.  7.10 might be better...  The drivers are all up to date.
[03:54] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: hehe, no, you didn't pay attention :)
[03:54] <cubedsi> what is hackint0sh?
[03:54] <sfears> i guess it wasn't a video.. and at the end it said you have to leave the cd in the drive to boot everytime. is that true?
[03:54] <Jupp2> Evanlec, you have to modify it in order to install in a PC
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, right, im aware
[03:55] <Evanlec> Jupp2, but how do u extract the contents off the disc?
[03:55] <Evanlec> Jupp2, it seems to be hiding the guts from me, all it shows is this bootcamp stuff
[03:55] <Evanlec> cubedsi, its a patch for mac os 10.5 that lets it run on pc hardware
[03:55] <pgan> phaedra: Thanks.  I am kinda afraid to upgrade to Gutsy, don't know what will break :-/
[03:55] <Jupp2> Evanlec, you really can't modify it in Linux afaik
[03:56] <Evanlec> Jupp2, what?!?
[03:56] <Evanlec> Jupp2, what can u modify it in then? windows? lol
[03:56] <cubedsi> oh nifty hackintosh
[03:56] <multidex> hello all
[03:56] <owlin> Hello. I'm having a problem with Ubuntu. Recently, and I'm not sure why, all the window frames disappeared. Could anyone help me with this?
[03:56] <Jupp2> Evanlec,  all the guides I found to modify the disk assumed you had Tiger installed so they explained how to do it under osx
[03:57] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i see, well she has leopard installed already, can i do it from there/
[03:57] <desertc> owlin did you search online yet?
[03:57] <phaedra> pgan, I'm running 7.04 on mine...  Haven't gone to 7.10 yet.  You'll probably need to use no acpi to boot it...
[03:57] <owlin> No. But, I more or less want to know if this is a simple bug. Or something serious.
[03:58] <desertc> pgan: got space on your driver for another partition?
[03:58] <pgan> phaedra: why not acpi?  acpi=force works fine up to 7.04
[03:58] <Crozar> whattt issssssss Trac!!!!
[03:58] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44679/
[03:58] <Crozar> my head will explode going deep into linux~!
[03:58] <ice9__> http://paste.lisp.org/display/50923.
[03:58] <Jupp2> Evanlec,  if you have leopard already installed then you can follow this guide: http://forum.osx86scene.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2008
[03:58] <Jimmytakeover> I am unable to play mkv files with mplayer. how come?
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> owlin: curious, have you used any scripts to install things...  automatix or others like it..?
[03:58] <ice9__> getting upgrade error
[03:58] <Jimmytakeover> its saying cannot connect to socket.
[03:58] <owlin> No.
[03:58] <Crozar> im so deep that im lost help me what is Trac and what is many other things like evpoint
[03:58] <ice9__> from update-manager
[03:58] <owlin> I only use synaptic or the terminal to install things.
[03:58] <multidex> i messed up my graphic card / monitor settings - I need to boot in low graphics mode, but I set grub to skip the menu of choices, it says hit ESC for menu, but ESC doesn't make it give the menu
[03:58] <Jimmytakeover> although i don't see how. plays fine with vlc/movie player
[03:59] <owlin> And I haven't installed anything recently.
[03:59] <pgan> desertc: thanks, I plan to try with another laptop dirve
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> owlin: HAve you changed repos or added things from outside the repos
[03:59] <owlin> No. I didn't do anything out of the normal listening to music, talking to friends using Pidgin, and using Firefox.
[03:59] <wintubuntu> hello everybody...i'm a new to ubuntu...i have a query...could someone please help me out?
[03:59] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: cool I got it to mount ... now will it auto mount for me if I were to reboot?
[04:00] <owlin> I just started my computer up one day, and saw the window frames missing.
[04:00] <Jupp2> wintubuntu, what's your problem?
[04:00] <Evanlec> Jupp2, thx
[04:00] <desertc> pgan: many people have said they had no trouble.  as for me, I recommend backing up your data
[04:00] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: Did you find it?
[04:00] <wintubuntu> i have 2 hard drives a scsi and an ide 1. ubuntu is installed on the scsi 1 along with dual boot xp
[04:00] <tatterdemalian> Is there any way I can tell all avahi-related daemons to never ever screw with my wlan0 interface?
[04:00] <Evanlec> ahhh, what processors support sse3?
[04:01] <Jupp2> Evanlec, I recommend that you get some of the iso floating around since modifying is not an easy task
[04:01] <phaedra> pgan, I just didn't want to force it...  Here's a link to check out.  http://www.nabble.com/IBM-Thinkpad-t4677243.html     there are some others on that site too.
[04:01] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: no.  for that, you need to install it in /etc/fstab
[04:01] <Evanlec> Jupp2, really? i was gonna grab a torrent, but 6gb is a longgg download
[04:01] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: i just wanted to make sure it would mount
[04:01] <wintubuntu> in ubuntu, only the first partition of ide hdd is displayed. if i do a fdisk -l, the other partitions are displayed but not mounted. how do i get ubuntu to mount these automatically?
[04:01] <Evanlec> Jupp2, n since i knew she was gettin this today, i thot this would be easier
[04:01] <ice9__> http://paste.lisp.org/display/50923.
[04:01] <ice9__> from update-manager
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, don't get that!! look for the ToH release
[04:02] <MidnighToker> wintubuntu: stop using the return key as punctuation, you dont type fast enough
[04:02] <Evanlec> Jupp2, on bittorrent?
[04:02] <phaedra> pgan, BTW I don't use the no acpi anymore.  7.04 does handle it fine...
[04:02] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: you may want to google for "mounting ntfs in ubuntu" or "mounting windows partition in linux" for a good set of instructions
[04:02] <ice9__> using the command do-release-upgrade
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, ues
[04:02] <dfcarney> or, you could type "man fstab" and delve into the technical mumbo jumbo
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, yes
[04:02] <Evanlec> Jupp2, k
[04:02] <MidnighToker> wintubuntu: you want to add them into /etc/fstab to auto-mount them on boot
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, it fits on a single layer dvd
[04:02] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: or, you could type "man fstab" and delve into the technical mumbo jumbo
[04:03] <Jupp2> is SSE2 and SSE3 compatible
[04:03] <multidex> How do I force Grub to offer the list of systems to boot, it says "hit ESC for menu" but ESC doesn't work
[04:03] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Ok I got the basics:  eg ~ man mount ... but yes I would like to figure out how to auto mount it everytime and have write access to it as well
[04:03] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i found one 4.22gb , 0 seeders tho :(
[04:03] <MidnighToker> Jupp2: compatible with what?
[04:03] <Jupp2> iEvanlec, iss SSE2 and SSE3 compatible
[04:03] <nightdragon_> hello?
[04:03] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: then read up on fstab and ntfs-3g
[04:03] <nightdragon_> anybody still around?
[04:03] <wintubuntu> is there anywhere where i can get a step by step tut 4 this?
[04:03] <Jupp2> Evanlec, iss SSE2 and SSE3 compatible
[04:03] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: nah
[04:03] <pgan> tjs: Is neep better than freetype fonts?
[04:03] <Evanlec> Jupp2, okay
[04:03] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: in fact, if you install ntfs-3g then it may run you through an installer that will set things up for you
[04:03] <MidnighToker> wintubuntu: if you look in /etc/fstab its pretty slef explanitory, or man /etc/fstab
[04:03] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i found the ToH release on isohunt but 0 seeders
[04:04] <Jupp2> Evanlec, I tried modifying my own DVD which I bough on the store and it was a major headache
[04:04] <desertc> !ask nightdragon_
[04:04] <tatterdemalian> nightdragon_: Sort of, what up?
[04:04] <Jupp2> I downloaded mine a couple of days ago, and it works fine
[04:04] <Evanlec> Jupp2, alright, well thanks for the tip, i kinda just wanted to fool around with it anyway, glad u save me that trouble
[04:04] <oj> what plugin do i need in order to watch full screen videos on spikedhumor.com ?
[04:04] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: the trick with setting it up in /etc/fstab is that you have to set the mount permissions properly so that you can actually read/write to it
[04:04] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I have gutsy though, it came with it
[04:04] <nightdragon_> i'm still having problems getting 3d accelleration to work
[04:04] <wintubuntu> thanks every1
[04:04] <Evanlec> Jupp2, can u point me to a good torrent link?
[04:04] <pgan> phaedra: I have used acpi=force for 6.10 and 7.04 and I get hybernation, but with some problems.  APM never worked for me
[04:05] <MidnighToker> Jupp2: Evanlec not wanting to have a go, but a quick pointer about not talking warez in the channel?
[04:05] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: well, typing "dpkg-reconfigure ntfs-3g" may kick-start it (though I'm not certain)
[04:05] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: I have no experience with the ati drivers, id like to help more
[04:05] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, its not warez...
[04:05] <owlin> Nevermind. I've fixed it. Strangely it was with the "extra" setting I was using with the more attractive visuals. I hope the bug is fixed soon. Thanks anyone for helping.
[04:05] <MidnighToker> Evanlec: its against the EULA for OSX, unless you own a copy, and its still illigal unless you're using your own media. its hardly kosher
[04:05] <SudoKing> hello?
[04:06] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, i own a copy and it is my own media
[04:06] <lou_> caroline says
[04:06] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, im looking at it
[04:06] <aaron> hi!
[04:06] <phaedra> pgan, Okay...  I just searched 7.10 and the xircom is in linux-restricted-modules  check to see if it's in 7.04 - It should be.
[04:06] <menko> hi, is it possible to upgrade using the live cd?
[04:06] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, its shiny and black and purple with a big X
[04:06] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Well it did something, everything was undercover though so, well see.. atleast I have the basic idea
[04:06] <tatterdemalian> nightdragon_: Do a google search for your card and Ubuntu / GNOME / Debian, I really can't tell you anything else
[04:06] <cubedsi> thanks badkitty
[04:06] <SudoKing> where can I find the ubuntu login sound? Want to replace KDE login sound with Ubuntu sound...?
[04:06] <MidnighToker> Evanlec: lucky you, my apologies -but the torrent?
[04:06] <menko> SudoKing: try /usr/share/sounds
[04:06] <pgan> phaedra: thanks, will check
[04:07] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, the torrent is to download a patched version of the OS
[04:07] <multidex> How do I boot Gutsy in command-line only?
[04:07] <SudoKing> menko: I don't have Ubuntu
[04:07] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: did that work for you  Basically the added line with twinview was almost the only addition I had to make
[04:07] <SudoKing> I just want the Ubuntu login sound
[04:07] <adp10390> multidex: there should be an option for that in your GRUB menu
[04:07] <scguy318> multidex: boot in recovery mode
[04:07] <menko> do you have the cd?
[04:07] <cubedsi> haven't tried yet i am bz for a few
[04:07] <SudoKing> No...
[04:07] <phaedra> pgan,  you have to search under ltmodem
[04:07] <SudoKing> =-(
[04:07] <multidex> yes, it doesn't give me the menu, it says hit esc for menu, but that doesn't work
[04:08] <menko> hi, is it possible to upgrade using the live cd?
[04:08] <BADKITTY> Anyone else have twinview enabled with compiz-fusion??
[04:08] <multidex> is there another way to get the menu?
[04:08] <menko> from 7.04 to 7.10
[04:08] <adp10390> multidex: use your install cd to reinstall grub
[04:08] <SudoKing> Can't I find a copy of the original Ubuntu login sound online?
[04:08] <BADKITTY> menko: I think you must have the alternative cd
[04:08] <oj> hey how do i fix it so i can maximize videos on spikedhumor.com ?
[04:08] <TwoD> I'm trying to run svnserve from xinetd, but it refuses to listen on the port..
[04:08] <adp10390> multidex: or check your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[04:08] <menko> I don't have the time or bandwidth to get the alternative, there must be some way to use the live cd
[04:08] <pgan> phaedra: funnily enough, when I go to System -> Admin -> Restricted drivers manager, I get a message: "your system does not need any restricted drivers"
[04:09] <multidex> adp10390: thank you
[04:09] <BADKITTY> menko: alright well I really don't think so
[04:09] <menko> well that's really silly if you ask me
[04:09] <BADKITTY> menko: I didn't make the rules, but yah, kinda silly
[04:10] <phaedra> pgan, Hmmm...  It's probably using the 'free' drivers...
[04:10] <phaedra> pgan, you can open synaptic and search for ltmodem.
[04:11] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Looking for it now
[04:11] <Pir8> What player in ubuntu can play rm files ?
[04:11] <Pir8> I do not want to install real player
[04:11] <s00p> real player is evil
[04:11] <Pir8> agreed
[04:11] <SudoKing> thanks tatterdemalian
[04:11] <s00p> RelPain
[04:11] <pgan> with the 7.04 repos, ltmodem does not come up
[04:11] <JairunCaloth> screen = pwn :)
[04:12] <tatterdemalian> Would be nice if there was a directory that told us which directory these things were stored under...
[04:12] <phaedra> pgan,  brb-afk
[04:13] <IanLiu> is there a GUI to make GTK applications?
[04:13] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: for what are you searching?
[04:13] <SudoKing> tatterdemalian: lol
[04:13] <tatterdemalian> dfcarney: The directory Ubuntu system sounds are stored in
[04:14] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: /usr/share/sounds, i'm willing to bet
[04:14] <JairunCaloth> quit
[04:14] <JairunCaloth> -.-
[04:14] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: if you know part of the filename, you can use "locate" to find it
[04:14] <mcgrew> having some trouble getting an external hard drive to work, it was working before, but now ubuntu doesnt seem to realize its plugged in.
[04:15] <dfcarney> mcgrew: type 'dmesg' after plugging it in to see if there are any status/error messages
[04:15] <IanLiu> is there a graphical user interface to make GTK layouts?
[04:15] <drulux> Sup.
[04:15] <tatterdemalian> dfcarney: Thanks, that was it
[04:16] <SudoKing> :P
[04:16] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: no problem
[04:16] <Ademan> whee, i gave out 5 cds in 10 minutes
[04:16] <mcgrew> ddfcarney: alright, I did that, what am I looking for to see if somethings amiss?
[04:16] <pgan> phaedra: sorry, ltmodem is in the 7.04 repos, but xircom is not listed
[04:17] <broken> Can someone explain to me why ubuntu has set its display on 1280x1024 when this should be 1400x900?
[04:17] <SudoKing> tatterdemalian: how do i accept?
[04:17] <dfcarney> mcgrew: there's no easy answer to that :)  basically, error messages about a SCSI drive or disk (most likely)
[04:17] <nickrud> I'm trying to use networkmanager in automatic mode, along with named nameservers, any pointers?
[04:17] <dfcarney> mcgrew: if you plug something in to a USB port then the kernel should detect it and try to deal with it
[04:17] <Kalamarenku> CAn I connect to a Windows Xp computer with Ubuntu's RDP?
[04:17] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Uh... your client doesn't show you an accept button?
[04:17] <scguy318> Kalamarenku: sure
[04:18] <dfcarney> mcgrew: messages about that kind of thing can generally be seen by typing 'dmesg'
[04:18] <broken> ?
[04:18] <drulux> Does X-Chat allow standard mIRC commands?
[04:18] <drulux> Like /server -m etc.
[04:18] <SudoKing> I have Konversation...and it said [23:16] [DCC] tatterdemalian offers to send you "startup.wav" (1.3 MB)...
[04:18] <drulux> I'm new to this thing.
[04:18] <Kalamarenku> scguy318: just by entering the account name and IP address?
[04:18] <mcgrew> I dont see any error messages. I get a bunch of info, but nothing that appears to be an error.
[04:18] <Kalamarenku> Nevermind, I will do my Homework :)
[04:18] <nickrud> drulux: no
[04:18] <drulux> Alright.
[04:19] <drulux> How do I connect to multiple servers?
[04:19] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Danged if I know... never used Konversation
[04:19] <tatterdemalian> That worked
[04:19] <SudoKing> ah, tatterdemalain: it finally opened! yay! thank you so much
[04:19] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: No prob, it's not compressed tho
[04:20] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Might want to run it through mp3enc
[04:20] <robert_> UGH
[04:20] <robert_> (gens:11195): Pango-WARNING **: /usr/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[04:20] <SudoKing> Danged if I know where I put it
[04:20] <robert_> help?
[04:20] <robert_> what did I do wrong?
[04:20] <robert_> I can't get my 32-bit arch support working agin
[04:20] <robert_> again*
[04:20] <ikon> i need some good tutorials about bash on ubuntu
[04:21] <broken> bash is universal
[04:21] <tatterdemalian> robert_: You need to re-roll your elf, nobody will believe you rolled 20s eight times in a row
[04:21] <billenium> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 7.10?
[04:21] <tatterdemalian> Sorry, I couldn't resist that one
[04:21] <BADKITTY> ikon: You might look for a .pdf of bash
[04:21] <Vovk> I've got a few questions about cron. I'd like it to run the shell script "alarm" that i've written and placed into my "~/Music/alarm" directory
[04:21] <ikon> i need some good tutorials about bash on ubuntu
[04:21]  * robert_ brutally murders tatterdemalian for being an idiot
[04:21] <BADKITTY> ikon: or some other e-book
[04:22] <broken> rofl
[04:22] <Vovk> I've done this command to test it tonight at 11:20    20 23 * * * /home/mykola/Music/alarm/alarm
[04:22] <mcgrew> so I dont see a error message with dmesg, so is there anything else I can do to try and get this external hd to work?
[04:22] <Vovk> it didn't work
[04:22] <nickrud> !upgrade | billenium
[04:22] <ubotu> billenium: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:22] <Vovk> what am I doing wrong?
[04:22] <ikon> badkitty: yes
[04:22] <Vovk> I know that the shell script works, i've run it just fine before
[04:22] <BADKITTY> !mouse
[04:22] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:22] <waan_> Can anyone help me get ubuntu installed, it fails after loading the linux kernel when I boot from the CD, leaving a whole bunch of errors like this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44629/
[04:23] <nickrud> mcgrew: try tail -f /var/log/syslog in a terminal, and watch for any output when you plug it in
[04:23] <jimjam> Ack! When playing NWN, the sound stutters. Is there a way to fix that?
[04:23] <jimjam> Is it a problem with sound synching?
[04:23] <desertc> waan_: bad disk
[04:23] <Vovk> yes jimjam, it's on the NWN linux forums under stuttering sound
[04:23] <broken> waan_: yea bad disk
[04:23] <dfcarney> mcgrew: in short, yes...but it's hard to debug hardware issues remotely.  basically, look through dmesg and try to figure out the disk (sda, sdb, etc...)  Then, look up the partition you wish to mount in the /proc/partitions file.  After that, you'll want to mount it with "mount".  To get it to mount automatically, you'll want to google for that info.
[04:23] <jimjam> Vovk: Nice. Thanks.
[04:24] <ikon> badkitty: where can i find it?
[04:24] <BADKITTY> ikon: look on suprnova or isohunt
[04:24] <Vovk> jimjam: iirc, the first solution on the forums doesn't work. the second one should
[04:25] <weltschmerz> i can't share my music with another user on this machine, even though everything in my music directory is chmod to 750, and the group is users, and the user in question is in users.
[04:25] <weltschmerz> any help appreciated.
[04:26] <nickrud> Vovk: you used crontab -e to edit the crontab, right?
[04:27] <mcgrew> Dfcarney: the partions file doesnt display anything. it seems blank to me
[04:27] <Vovk> nickrud: yes, crontab -e .  then I set it to 20 23 * * * and then the command (which i copy/pasted out of my terminal after testing to see that it worked)
[04:27] <nickrud> weltschmerz: did you log out the other user, and log him back in? (group adds don't take effect until a logout)
[04:27] <Vovk> nickrud: it should have gone off at 11:20 right?
[04:28] <Crozar> this is insane
[04:28] <Crozar> how can i study more linux
[04:28] <pgan> weltschmerz: do you have openafs installed by any chance?
[04:28] <broken> hows ubuntu and broadcom wireless adapaters doing?
[04:28] <nickrud> Vovk: should
[04:28] <dfcarney> mcgrew: blank?  does typing 'cat /proc/partitions' on the command-line yield any output?
[04:29] <IanLiu> !gtk
[04:29] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:29] <pgan> broken: see the networking and wireless section of the forums
[04:29] <broken> bah..
[04:29] <Vovk> nickrud: is there anything else I have to do? close the crontab file or whatever? right now it looks like this - # m h  dom mon dow   command
[04:29] <Vovk> 20 23 * * * /home/mykola/Music/alarm/alarm
[04:29] <pgan> broken: there is a link to a page listing which cards are suppprted and to which extent
[04:29] <nickrud> Vovk: yes, you have to close & save :)
[04:29] <mEck0> I can't play music from the internetradio-station http://sc10.radioseven.se:80 or with www.radioseven.se/128.pls. I have downloaded the file but it doesn't happen anything if I open it with Banshee or Exaile. Though it works with VLC, so I assume I miss some codecs, think it is a mp3- stream ("usual" mp3's are working for me). Know how to fix?
[04:30] <Vovk> nickrud: lol... i did that as well
[04:30] <nickrud> Vovk: try installing gnome-schedule, and building it that way
[04:30] <Vovk> ok
[04:30] <tatterdemalian> I thought GTK was a Gnu graphics library needed for multiple applications?
[04:31] <nickrud> started for the gimp, adopted by many iirc
[04:31] <Vovk> hmm
[04:31] <Vovk> just got schedule, it seems to be in there
[04:32] <Vovk> we'll see, i just set it for 23:32
[04:32] <tatterdemalian> nickrud: Oh, okay... never used it for anything but GIMP myself, heh
[04:32] <Vovk> now it is that time, the script has not executed (it has permissions)
[04:32] <nickrud> tatterdemalian: gtk is what draws the stuff inside the windows borders
[04:32] <Vovk> permission*
[04:32] <Crozar> guys i have been studying many stuff in linux i found out im not only learning them im in a path where then i can understand and build my own stuff ..
[04:33] <Crozar> i dont want to build stuff , i want to use the built stuff from people but what makes it easier? nothing!!! all the stuff is built are for the other geeks who can deal with them and use them but not for the world
[04:33] <desertc> Crozar: outstanding!  (send some of your learning materials to vovk.... :(  )
[04:33] <nickrud> Vovk: I usually use   touch /home/rich/testfile  for testing my cron stuff, isolates script errors as such
[04:34] <Crozar> the world want to use such stuff , i dont blame the builders but i blame UbuntU and linux the big boys who doesnt make such app or tunnel for just accepting the build ones into the right prespectives , example pidgin plugin = easy put by put and install... ect..
[04:34] <mcgrew> I followed the steps on the ubuntu forums for mounting my external, but when I try it I get this message: mount: can't find sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab    note that I've not told it anything about /ect/fstab or /ect/mtab, so I'm not sure what those have to do with anything.
[04:34] <desertc> Crozar: I like to say Windows was built by marketing for managers.  Linux built by engineers for engineers.
[04:34] <Crozar> why !!!!!1
[04:34] <tatterdemalian> Crozar: Fortunately we geeks couldn't care less what the world wants
[04:34] <fous> thats funny
[04:34] <nickrud> ah, tatterdemalian has nailed it :)
[04:35] <hexibot43> Can anyone help me?  I am trying to do a "Make Config for v4l-dvb" and it is telling me a do not have the full kernel sources installed - for kernel 2.6.22 any ideas or can you point me in the right direction. thanks
[04:35] <Vovk> nickrud: i've already tried this script from a terminal though. it works, but it's not working with cron
[04:35] <broken> yea i have the WMP54G2 pgan, i believe it should work.
[04:35] <Crozar> but if linux want to win beleive me the first one who will do a excellent work , like mac example , will win $$millions
[04:35] <broken> I had to actually cut the firmware on my gentoo installation.
[04:35] <pgan> Crozar: it is not easy to make it easy to use, but people are trying
[04:35] <broken> But I hope that it will work out of the box with feisty.
[04:35] <fous> I have a question I need help with my wireless drivers for ubuntu
[04:35] <Crozar> i am trying my best until i realized that im working for to become a geek (W TF )
[04:35] <desertc> crozar: I recommend you read "The UNIX Philosophy"
[04:35] <pgan> broken: OK, and have you tried it?
[04:36] <nickrud> Vovk: try bash <script> in the crontab, but I'd do the touch thing
[04:36] <Crozar> i stopped instantly because i cant waste my time here my major is not IT!
[04:36] <tatterdemalian> Crozar: Win what?  I don't even want to be a part of that contest
[04:36] <ikon> desert: i need some documentation about bash on ubuntu
[04:36] <drulux> Could someone tell me how to connect to multiple servers as well as how to clear the sever and channel list in X-Chat
[04:36] <drulux> server even
[04:36] <desertc> ikon: man bash
[04:36] <drulux> I am stumped.
[04:36] <nickrud> ikon: abs-guide , install that (advanced bash scripting) also, look at tldp.org
[04:36] <pgan> Crozar: one way to make it easier is to talk to people who are builting it and make suggestions
[04:36] <Crozar> win the world ,the next generation system , if linux wants to be back as the father it must act like one instead of being underground tatterdemalian
[04:36] <tatterdemalian> Crozar: If you're looking for a warrior to overthrow the mighty Windoze, keep looking
[04:37] <desertc> Crozar: Get involved: write documentation, file bug reports, build supporting websites
[04:37] <Campfire1> whats the easist way to get ubuntu running side by side xp
[04:37] <Vovk> Campfire1: do you mean a virtual machine or dual boot?
[04:37] <Crozar> no not the people who build them , the people build them but the pipe lines for the built program must take place and the builders dont have authority to make it do the things which also needs permission act , ubuntu and linux Distro must work on thiS!!! pgan
[04:37] <tatterdemalian> Hate just doesn't motivate people any more, thank gawd
[04:37] <desertc> Campfire1: The installation program will help you get a dual boot configuration by repartitioning your Windows partition
[04:37] <nickrud> drulux: it's kinda awkward (or not) but you can use xchat->network list and select an additional server.
[04:38] <central> hello Please I use ubuntu 7.10 and i want to know how to start as root user ?
[04:38] <nickrud> !sudo | central (and sudo -i will give you a root shell)
[04:38] <ubotu> central (and sudo -i will give you a root shell): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:38] <drulux> nickrud: Ya I noticed. Isn't there a command though?
[04:39] <nickrud> drulux: probably, but I'm (still) irc illiterate
[04:39] <Campfire1> ty desert
[04:39] <drulux> Haha okay.
[04:39] <central> ok thanks
[04:39] <drulux> Well thanks.
[04:39] <pgan> Crozar: Ubuntu only has a small workforce.  And, yes it is talking to the developers of gnome apps for example.  But it's better if you yourself talk to them on mailing lists and submit bug reports
[04:39] <Vovk> central: you will not need to actually log in as the root user, instead use the command sudo in front of textual things that you need root permissions for and gksudo in front of GUI commands you need root permissions for
[04:39] <tatterdemalian> If Linux ever replaced Windows, it would become just as "evil," anyhow... mostly because Microsoft isn't evil, just incompetant, as all large organizations must become
[04:39] <dwiel> anyone know a command that I can type while a script is running so that it flashes when it is done?
[04:39] <dwiel> like gaim does when you get an IM
[04:39] <fous> I have a dell wireless card and I used the windows drivers with the app wireless network driver utility but my issue is how to make it run at start up
[04:39] <desertc> nickrud: I think there's a reason why root login is difficult to obtain ... maybe not a  good idea to tell people how to bypass sudo
[04:40] <Crozar> i never knew i would find such a system and with all my life windows is just crap compared to linux and mac , im involved waay much into using the internet , using very important accesories , im a guy who want my printer to work , mouse keyboard touch screen cd r drive and have important app's like paltalk realplayer ect..
[04:40] <nickrud> desertc: that's not bypassing sudo, that's a feature that sudo has
[04:40] <cerealkiller> hey how can dual linus OS my pc, i mean installing 2 linux distro
[04:40] <desertc> cerealkiller: just set it up in grub
[04:40] <nickrud> desertc: useful when doing multiple commands in /var/www for example
[04:40] <cerealkiller> how
[04:41] <desertc> nickrud: Oh, I see.  Sorry!
[04:41] <drulux> Sweet.
[04:41] <Crozar> pgan, desertc i am very much involved i submit'ed to bugs from my 11 i have found , i cant blame it to be bugs but it might be a conflict or just a hair stuck on my lens . i am hopeing myself to write a book of needs and wants from the world to linux but i dont think they will read such lo
[04:41] <nickrud> I don't think windows is evil or corrupt or incompetent, they just have this incredibly diverse user base they have to satisfy, with ancient/cutting edge hardware. I hate how they hide the metal from me, though
[04:42] <tatterdemalian> Heck, Linux isn't even particularly competant either, even at 5% of Windows' size... my wlan card won't run right
[04:42] <desertc> Crozar: You might consider talking about this in #ubuntu-offtopic - better reception
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> hi everyone
[04:42] <desertc> hi
[04:42] <desertc> !hi
[04:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:42]  * nickrud just spend 20 minutes figuring out why his net stopped working
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> just finished my ubuntu uprgade to 7.1
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> love it
[04:42] <tatterdemalian> And nobody seems to know why
[04:42] <desertc> 7.10
[04:42] <cerealkiller> how can i install a widget in ubuntu
[04:42] <desertc> 7 is year, 10 is month
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> oh, learned something new today
[04:43] <Crozar> hehe nickrud i understand , but peep's who are professional with windows understand every thing in windows , by even calculating such .dll files those people can consider windows th best , they run at 8 processes all the time imagine that 8 processes from the world who runs windows with 30 + processes~!
[04:43] <Crozar> desertc, its a st0ners house theyr
[04:43] <djmeltdown_> question tho...
[04:43] <Crozar> desertc, nobody talks
[04:43] <djmeltdown_> i installed samba, but im having trouble seeing other MS windows workstations in my workgroup
[04:43] <djmeltdown_> i made sure they were all set to MSHOME
[04:43] <desertc> It'd pretty active, usually -- and this channel is for support
[04:44] <cerealkiller> how can i install a widget in ubuntu
[04:44] <nickrud> Crozar: good point, but I can't rip out 80% of windows and still have a functioning machine, I could with ubuntu
[04:44] <desertc> !patience > cerealkiller
[04:44] <thenewguy1216> anyone out there who could help me change the boot order in the boot loader?
[04:44] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, watch the youtube guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad17kma8rNM
[04:44] <desertc> thenewguy1216: google grub settings
[04:44] <thenewguy1216> thx
[04:44] <pgan> thenewguy1216, what boot loader are you using?
[04:44] <sethk> djmeltdown_, sometimes you need to override the user name and password with one that exists on the windows side.  I think enabling guest on the windows side is another alternative.
[04:44] <nickrud> thenewguy1216: you'd do it by renumbering in /etc/rc2.d, but you really shouldn't, many of them start in parallel
[04:44] <djmeltdown_> crozar - will do, is there a guide to compiz-fusion too, i can get to the settings, but i dont know the keyboard shortcuts to make anything function
[04:44] <TwoD> nickrud: hehe, true, but functioning =/= useful ;)
[04:44] <tatterdemalian> nickrud: I could... all it really needs is DOS and HIMEM64
[04:44] <Jupp2> djmeltdown_, did you turn the samba service on?
[04:45] <Crozar> cerealkiller, widgets you can use screenlets and have it attached with compiz manager or just get gDesklets
[04:45] <sethk> thenewguy1216, you just edit the file and move the lines
[04:45] <cerealkiller> thanks
[04:45] <nickrud> TwoD: who needs more than mutt, elm, elinks, and g++ ?:)
[04:45] <TwoD> haha
[04:45] <sethk> thenewguy1216, assuming you know which file and which lines, of course  :)
[04:45] <bluefox83> drwxr-xr-x  2 bluefox bluefox   4096 2007-07-30 14:17 tmp  <---what does the number 4096 represent?
[04:45] <thenewguy1216> grub, as far as I know
[04:45] <sethk> bluefox83, size of the file
[04:45] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you just got ubuntu fresh install out of the box? wat is it gnome or kde?
[04:45] <mcgrew> dfcarney: cat  /proc/partitions gave me a list. it seems the external is both sdb and sdb1
[04:46] <tatterdemalian> Heck, I used to code DLLs using EDLIN
[04:46] <nickrud> tatterdemalian: but what would you run? (I'm getting way off topic, so I'll leave the last word)
[04:46] <thenewguy1216> yah, I'm poking around in menu.lst
[04:46] <bluefox83> sethk, there's no way, i have dozens of none-related files that all say 4096
[04:46] <thenewguy1216> hopefully this works out
[04:46] <sethk> bluefox83, directories always show as 4096
[04:46] <mcgrew> so what command do I need to feed it to make it mount?
[04:46] <cerealkiller> i cant uninstall wine
[04:46] <djmeltdown_> crozar - i upgraded, but i did a complete install... gnome i believe
[04:46]  * TwoD ponders if he should go to bed... 5:45am here and I finally got my svn-server up!
[04:46] <djmeltdown_> way i can check?
[04:46] <sethk> bluefox83, in unix, a directory is really another type of file, and it has a fixed initial size of 4096
[04:46] <tatterdemalian> EDLIN had an integrated disassembler, not many people know that
[04:46] <desertc> tatterdemalian: EDLIN... lol  -- what - couldn't handle DEBUG ?
[04:47] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, last question to my basis , when you  upgraded from feisty did you had compiz installed at feisty before upgradeing?
[04:47] <djmeltdown_> nope
[04:47] <bluefox83> sethk, any reason why whenever i move a file over to my nfs server, it gets the user group number of 1000?
[04:47] <bluefox83> and why my nfs mount is listen as 1000?
[04:47] <bluefox83> it was 1001
[04:47] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, good , you have saved 20 minutes of my time :D
[04:47] <djmeltdown_> glad i could help
[04:47] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you need !ccsm
[04:47] <xidox> .cl
[04:47] <Crozar> !ccsm
[04:47] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:47] <djmeltdown_> i already sudo apt-got ccsm
[04:48] <djmeltdown_> its installed
[04:48] <tatterdemalian> desertc: I knew people who could... I never got that far though, because MASM came out
[04:48] <djmeltdown_> !ccsm
[04:48] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, then you can press system > prefrences > advanced compiz setin
[04:48] <desertc> tatterdemalian: I barely touched either one, except to run patches.
[04:48] <Crozar> i mean advanced desktop effect settings djmeltdown_
[04:48] <ztomic> woo-hoo! Feisty works so much betta on older machines.
[04:48] <flypp3r> Is there a reason that my Google Browser Sync for Firefox makes the browser go extremely slow?  I'm on amd64 7.10
[04:48] <martman> anyone running JeOS in a vmware? i cant seem to get my fresh install to finish booting
[04:49] <martman> not sure what could be wrong
[04:49] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ok, i went in a tooled with it today, and set up the cube settings, but how do use it??  when i press alt+tab, i still get a scroll with my open windows instead of a cube
[04:49] <bluefox83> sethk, when i rsync a file over to my fileserver, or just plain move it on nfs, the files get the group owner 100or 1000
[04:49] <tatterdemalian> MASM was awesome... I wrote an entire 3d engine in it, that interfaced with DirectX 9
[04:49] <Crozar> ztomic, what do you mean >? gutsy is very good aswell , its maybe you have the known issues and its already solved like resoloution , graphics , and network failure
[04:49] <Crozar> oh
[04:49] <Crozar> try Ctrl + ALT + right arrow
[04:49] <GeekChick|> How do you configure the grub boot loader graphically? Everytime I update ubuntu in anyway it just steals the top position in the boot order and I want Windows XP to always be first. In fact, this time it deleted Windows XP so it could be at the top. I'd like to prevent this from ever occurring again.
[04:50] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ctrl+alt+right arrow shifts me to the next desktop
[04:50] <ztomic> Crozar:  Main problem is that Daphne wont run on fresh install.
[04:50] <nickrud> GeekChick|: move the windows stanza above the line that has BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL CONFIG (or some such)
[04:50] <broken> omg
[04:50] <nickrud> GeekChick|: it'll stay at the top permanently
[04:50] <Midtronic> GeekChick|: check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:50] <broken> ubuntu doesn't see that i have 1400x900
[04:51] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you can configure your bindings in many ways by going in the cube or forexample any plugin and clickong on the action tab you will see bindings , click on the arrow
[04:51] <GeekChick|> nickrud, it has not staid at the top for the last 3 times and i moved the windows stanza to the top last itme
[04:51] <nickrud> GeekChick|: above that line, and it'll stay untouched.
[04:51] <tatterdemalian> I should put "girl" in my name somewhere... people would be falling all over themselves to help me then
[04:51] <djmeltdown_> crozar , so in short i can set my own shortcut keys
[04:51] <kolinab> can I ask someone a question about installing a program from a tarball?
[04:51] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: I know, right?
[04:51] <Crozar> ztomic, im not a fan of Daphne what good does it do :p teach me so i can be a part of your world brother
[04:51] <ztomic> yeah i know it's silly but ...
[04:51] <rj__> does any one know the beryl project?
[04:51] <Midtronic> I try to be gender neutral and only answer things I know how to do :-P
[04:51] <Crozar> yes djmeltdown_ example how many windows y ou ahve running now?
[04:52] <GeekChick|> tatterdemalian, lol
[04:52] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, clikc the windows icon the one that is in your keyboard between Ctrl and ALT , click on that icon hold it and click TAB]
[04:52] <GeekChick|> tatterdemalian, you're more likely to get A/S/L Cam/Pic
[04:52] <nickrud> tatterdemalian: ah, I take good care of poor kids, too :)
[04:52] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: Me too, that's why I'm sitting here reminiscing about assemblers instead of helping
[04:52] <james296> does anyone know if its possible to install the 32 bit version of Ubuntu over the 64 bit version without having to reformat the HD?
[04:52] <Midtronic> haha
[04:53] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: well, maybe you can help this... if I update /etc/hosts.allow or hosts.deny, can I push those changes to my kernel without rebooting?
[04:53] <thenewguy1216> how do I access /boot/grub/menu.lst with the necessary permissions to save the file?
[04:53] <nickrud> james296: yes, just tell the installer to wipe that partition
[04:53] <Crozar> desktop cube > action tab > general click on the arrow , you will see the bindings which you want to reconfigure djmeltdown_
[04:53] <Midtronic> since I updated to gutsy I can't ssh into this box via wan
[04:53] <nickrud> thenewguy1216: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:54] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: Nope, sorry... I may be god of machine code, but I'm still a Linux n00b
[04:54] <james296> Im sorry, I meant the entire HD including Ubuntu itself..
[04:54] <Crozar> can any1 help me make touch screen work? i installed ezpoint and nothing worked yet
[04:54] <thenewguy1216> nickrud: how do I start that up
[04:54] <james296> I dont wanna lose the way I have all the settings set at and I cant use Opera since Im running the 64 bit version :-(
[04:54] <rj__> how do i get a pic behind the cube while transparent beryl
[04:54] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: wish I'd had you when I was taking a systems class ;-)
[04:55] <nickrud> thenewguy1216: apps->accessories->terminal, type it there. The terminal is where you do any system level work.
[04:55] <thenewguy1216> thanks
[04:55] <Midtronic> james296: there's a fix/hack/thing to get such things as java and flash working on 64-bit machines
[04:55] <Midtronic> but it's mozilla-based, not opera
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> I'm running 32bit Feisty on my A64 X2 desktop box and figuring to upgrade to Gutsy. What should I be concerned about? And what should I expect to need to reconfigure after the upgrade? Java? Sound stuff? Nvidia stuff? How has it gone for people?
[04:56] <GeekChick|> nickrud, thank you. that worked (until next time)
[04:56] <james296> but I want Opera...lol, without having to lose everything on my Ubuntu partition, is this possible or not?
[04:56] <Midtronic> Nutubuntu: I dist-upgraded on the same proc., but I'm 64-bit linux
[04:56] <Midtronic> I had no issues
[04:56] <nickrud> GeekChick|: try sudo update-grub, and reboot. That's the command that the kernel upgrade uses to rebuild grub. See if it survives
[04:56] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: No you don't... it's like having the King of Slide Rules in your class: fun the first time you see him work his magic, but by the end of the day you're about to make him wish his slipstick really was that slippery
[04:56] <bluefox83> i seem to be having trouble mv'ing files from one directory to another in terminal, isn't it simply mv foo/ bar/
[04:57] <djmeltdown_> ok - i figured out how to rotate the screen, but it seems like my cube is a square, its only 2D, has front and back, no top and bottom
[04:57] <Crozar> many people keep saying i dont want to learn about linux i want the programs insatlled like in windows , ( well here is an answer . before compiz , when it was manual , the geeks had them first and was ok , then made a video , the noobs was i want that , then said comon make it easy install wtf is this ,.. here goes life ) if the people dont learn linux then by days and times new stuff will come created by the community the fan lovers the ge
[04:57] <Crozar> eks , and they will not put tutorials but speak by 2 - 4 sentences geek understanding and they will be the only ones to have them , the wants who undersatnd linux , but the noobs will suffer unless they buy support or learn themselves ... or wait for help on a cry prayer
[04:57] <desertc> Nutubuntu: nice nick... I'm running 64b -- no worries
[04:57] <ikon> desertc: are you geek?
[04:57] <james296> whats everyones opinion on the Aerora theme engine?
[04:58] <Nutubuntu> Midtronic,  desertc, thanks both. 64bit working well for you? I am guessing I ought to stay with 32bit since I'm running it now and don't want to do a full reinstall
[04:58] <nickrud> Nutubuntu: I always update in place, make sure you have no third party repos enabled, and if you used automatix, all bets are off
[04:58] <shinygiftson> hi all
[04:58] <tatterdemalian> Yay, I spent 20 years learning how to write assembler programs with hex editors, and what is that skill good for today? Jack squit.
[04:58] <desertc> !hi
[04:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:58] <jturek> hey, how do i get my virtual consoles working in Gutsy,  when i hit ALT-F1 or whatever, usually it drops me to a shell,  but now it just goes to a blank screen
[04:58] <desertc> tatterdemalian: embedded processing is the new plastics
[04:59] <nickrud> jturek: ati chip?
[04:59] <Midtronic> Nutubuntu: it works well for me.. I've only had a few issues.  It took me a while to get flash working.. the only thing that's really pissed me off has been that there's some texmaker bug so that it won't run on 64-bit systems... which really sucked when I had to do a research paper
[04:59] <Nutubuntu> Thanks nickrud - no automatix, but I do have some additional repos enabled ... I'll go turn those off first...
[04:59] <Midtronic> I wrote it inside a 32-bit ubuntu virtual machine
[04:59] <jturek> nickrud: intel
[04:59] <shinygiftson> while i'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu to the latest one, i'm getting  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:59] <pgan> Crozar: While things are experimental, they are not always stable, easy to use and documented
[04:59] <nickrud> jturek: then I don't know, I have an ati and had problems when using fglrx
[04:59] <jturek> nickrud: 82915G
[05:00] <Nutubuntu> Midtronic,  latex is a big deal for me right now ... in fact, back in Dapper, I think, I had to backport it to get pdftex working ...
[05:00] <shinygiftson> wht should i do to debugg
[05:00] <shinygiftson> ?
[05:00] <jturek> nickrud: i thought maybe it was my resolution or something,  so i did VGA=792
[05:00] <jturek> and it still doesn't work
[05:00] <Midtronic> yeah.  LaTeX works just fine.. it's just texmaker that doesn't
[05:00] <tatterdemalian> pgan: Too bad nothing in Linux ever moves past the "experimental" phase
[05:00] <nickrud> shinygiftson: could you put the complete run of apt-get -f install on a pastebin (if that doesn't fix it)
[05:00] <Midtronic> I should have written it in vim :P
[05:00] <Crozar> i have a wacom touch screen while its not working out of th ebox :/ is it a conflict?
[05:00] <bluefox83> tatterdemalian, everything does
[05:00] <Nutubuntu> Um ... yah ... sure ... ::backs away slowly::
[05:00] <FireHazrd> Hello, Im having an issue with add/remove in 7.10 fresh install. The list of applications is not available... I am connected to the internet using a wireless connection.
[05:01] <shinygiftson> nickrud: i tried tht also
[05:01]  * nickrud wonders about tex , experimental?
[05:01] <vladuz976> i need info on font.conf file, and what I can do with it. I can't find good resources. can anybody point me to information?
[05:01] <Evanlec> Crozar, try apt-get install wacom-tools
[05:01] <BADKITTY> after I install virtualbox, is there any other packages I need to install for it to work?
[05:01] <tatterdemalian> bluefox83: Only if it has to, like your customers are threatening lawsuits. No customers, no lawsuits, no progress
[05:01] <Crozar> Evanlec, you have a touchscreen/
[05:01] <tatterdemalian> Hell, even grep is still in beta
[05:01] <Evanlec> Crozar, no i just have a regular wacom tablet
[05:02] <Midtronic> vladuz976: read the manpage? (man 5 fonts-conf)
[05:02] <nickrud> vladuz976: http://fontconfig.org/fontconfig-user.html
[05:02] <Crozar> Evanlec, btw wacom is hp? or compaq?
[05:02] <pgan> tatterdemalian: I agree a lot of things should be easier to use.  I make long lists of those and post them as bug reports, describe how things should work
[05:02] <Evanlec> Crozar, i dno, i thot wacom was wacom
[05:02] <Crozar> oh
[05:02] <Crozar> my laptop is not wacom
[05:02] <bluefox83> tatterdemalian, they keep the projects open so they can continue to develop things and make them better, it's a lot more than can be said of anything done in windows
[05:02] <Crozar> its hp
[05:02] <Evanlec> Crozar, yea...but wacom made the touchscreen
[05:02] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: I dunno if experimental/beta are the right words.. how about feature-rich and under development?
[05:02] <Midtronic> euphemisms :-)
[05:02] <Crozar> Evanlec, :D
[05:02] <Nutubuntu> So ... dist-upgrade would go like (1) make sure ubuntu-desktop's installed, (2) disable third party repositories, (3) run the upgrade tool, (4) smile and pour a cool refreshing beverage ... more or less ... ?
[05:03] <Evanlec> Crozar, cuz thats what they make ;)
[05:03] <shinygiftson> nickrud: even i tried to fix broken packages using synoptic manager
[05:03] <FireHazrd> Is anyone else having issues with add/remove - 7.10?
[05:03] <shinygiftson> but i couldn't
[05:03] <Crozar> Evanlec, then i need wacom-tools
[05:03] <tatterdemalian> bluefox: Yeah, in Windows they finish one project before going to the next... sometimes
[05:03] <shinygiftson> mono-xsp and mono-xsp2 r broken
[05:03] <Evanlec> Crozar, it might help, i never heard of touch-screen + ubuntu tho, it might be unsupported
[05:03] <nickrud> shinygiftson: then the pastebin would be helpful, the real problems will be mentioned before that error message you spoke of
[05:03] <Crozar> :(
[05:03] <bluefox83> or in the case of windows itself, they release it broken, and leave millions upon millions of filed bugs unfixed
[05:03] <Midtronic> I'd rather have a project that works where there's still stuff to do than a broken unfinished project.  Plus the nature of open source is sort of.. buggy
[05:04] <bluefox83> where-as in linux, the community goes out of it's way to fix bugs
[05:04] <nickrud> mmm, bugzilla, good
[05:04] <Evanlec> Crozar, esp if its really new, and a little exotic
[05:04] <desertc> tatterdemalian: why do you say grep is in beta?
[05:04] <bruenig> grep in beta?
[05:04] <Crozar> Evanlec, many people like touchscreen for private purposes
[05:04] <bluefox83> grep is no-where near beta
[05:04] <Crozar> Evanlec, example , presentation
[05:04] <nickrud> ok, this is a bit over the top, grep vs compiz
[05:05] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: In that case, I'm an experienced youngish cuddly male who is good with his hand
[05:05] <bluefox83> grep is used in production servers, and has been for a long time now
[05:05] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: you should get a touchscreen... for private purposes.
[05:05] <tatterdemalian> Instead of a fat old geek with a sticky keyboard
[05:05] <Midtronic> I'm a moderately experienced young geek, I suppose.
[05:06] <bruenig> grep > compiz
[05:06] <nickrud> grep >> most tools
[05:06] <djmeltdown_> anyone know why my compiz cube is 2d only
[05:06] <bruenig> two >'s?
[05:06] <djmeltdown_> ?
[05:06]  * bluefox83 24, my body isn't exactly a runner's body, but it's not fat, and my keyboard is far from sticky
[05:06] <nickrud> much greater than
[05:06] <bruenig> sed > grep
[05:06] <Frogzoo> djmeltdown_: cos compiz isn't running
[05:06] <desertc> grep: Do one thing, and do it well.
[05:06] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you need to add more windows to make it a CUBE :)
[05:06] <bruenig> grep does a lot of things actually
[05:07] <bluefox83> djmeltdown_, add more work desktops/work spaces to it
[05:07] <Nutubuntu> grep 'grep' beta
[05:07] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you mean 2 D as 1 paper double side
[05:07] <stephans> did the Gonme Screensaver applet get simplified?!
[05:07] <rabidweezle> Trying to upgrade using update manager to gutsy from feisty
[05:07] <nickrud> stephans: it's lobotomized
[05:07] <kolinab> I downloaded a program as a tarball (http://sourceforge.net/projects/golly/) and just extracted it to the desktop. It runs except crashes if I open the preferences or help menu. Do I need to compile it or something? Or install it in some better fashion?
[05:07] <Frogzoo> stephans: sadly yes
[05:07] <djmeltdown_> crozar - i have 4 desktops, but only 1 has active programs running, for some reason it wont let me send a window to another desktop
[05:07] <Crozar> yes djmeltdown_
[05:07] <rabidweezle> get an error: Failed to fetch http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu/dists/feisty/motu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found and Failed to fetch http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/dists/feisty/a/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[05:07] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, do you have expo plugin enabled?
[05:07] <stephans> How can I edit the individual screensavers now?
[05:08] <nickrud> rabidweezle: you should disable all 3d party repos while upgrading
[05:08] <Midtronic> comment out those servers in your sources.list
[05:08] <rabidweezle> k
[05:08] <djmeltdown_> again, not sure, where would i check
[05:08] <tatterdemalian> stephans: You don't, I've tried
[05:08] <ikon> desertc: are you a geek?
[05:08] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, Expo go in that and click actions  , its  in ccsm
[05:08] <stephans> damn!
[05:08] <stephans> that sucks!
[05:08] <nickrud> I wonder if xscreensaver still works in place of the gnome one
[05:09] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, the place where you did your own bindings
[05:09] <Midtronic> ikon: I'm going to go ahead and say that you can assume that if someone is on IRC, he's probably a geek
[05:09] <stephans> I like GLSlideshow...  and I want to tell it to use my own pictures.
[05:09] <tatterdemalian> I think they took out all the options the screensavers used to support... I managed to change the command line and environment variables, but they had no effect at all
[05:09] <djmeltdown_> i just enabled it
[05:09] <riotkittie> Midtronic: wrong.
[05:09] <ikon> why Midtronic?
[05:09] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, i want you to bind expo ( the current bidnings is Super + E , leave that but beside it is None ok right unders screen edge double click it and tick on TopLeft and press ok
[05:10] <Midtronic> maybe it's just me.  Mostly because the only people I've ever known who ever use IRC are geeks
[05:10] <riotkittie> i've been on irc since 94, and i'm so not a geek.
[05:10] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: I dunno, AOL and mIRC have lowered the bar
[05:10] <Nutubuntu> Midtronic may be wrong, but it's a fair bet that if someone's in debian.gr he's a greek
[05:10] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: true.. mIRC at least has a functional, decently powerful scripting language.  It gave me the foundations of programming, back in the day
[05:10] <nickrud> riotkittie: you made a ralink work, you're tagged, for better or worse
[05:10] <tatterdemalian> I've known some really ignorant rednecks on IRC... never in the programming channels though
[05:11] <tarelerulz> Is there any way to clone a hard drive with XP and Ubuntu on it?
[05:11] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, now put your mouse pointer to the edge of topleft and tell me how many desktops you see
[05:11] <riotkittie> nickrud: i used ndiswrapper and windows drivers.
[05:11] <shinygiftson> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44681/
[05:11] <shinygiftson> this is the full track of the error
[05:11] <hhp2k> Hey everyone.. just installed a fresh Gutsy and wanting to configure compiz, but the config tool isn't installed (odd.) Tried command-line "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-setting-manager" but it couldn
[05:11] <Midtronic> tarelerulz: clone?
[05:11] <hhp2k> *couldn't find it. All repo's enabled in Synaptic.
[05:11] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, compiz has wonders :D , you must see the shiftswitcher aswell ( windows icon button + TAB )
[05:11] <tatterdemalian> They're the guys that spam you with ten million A/S/L messages whenever you enter #freemp3s
[05:11] <BADKITTY> Crozar: dusion rocks hu?
[05:12]  * rabidweezle kills all the 3rd party repos and starts the upgrade
[05:12] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: touche.
[05:12] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Compiz-Fusion**
[05:12] <rabidweezle> thanks for the info :)
[05:12] <tarelerulz> Midtronic , an exact copy of the information on the hard drive .
[05:12] <Crozar> btw djmeltdown_ if want to add more work space , dont do it through ubuntu coz now compiz is incharge  , so go in ccsm click on General options then DesktopSize tab add it from theyr and check it out
[05:12] <nickrud> shinygiftson: If we're really lucky,   sudo invoke-rc.d mono-xsp start  will fix that
[05:12] <Crozar> BADKITTY, yes girl
[05:12] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ok, now i'm able to send windows to different desktops, but i still only have a 2d sheet of paper
[05:12] <Midtronic> tarelerulz: dd will do a bit-for-bit copy
[05:13] <rabidweezle> crud
[05:13] <domor> Hello
[05:13] <rabidweezle> need to free up some disk space :o
[05:13] <rabidweezle> man, one of those days I NEED to get an ide controller...
[05:13] <shinygiftson> i'm getting  * Sorry, there is already a xsp running, stop it first nickrud
[05:13] <ikon> where are you from Midtronic?
[05:14] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, when you add more workspace it will become a box , more you go th emore it becomes better , btw if you will want to make it a cube i want you to enable cube reflection so the cube looks slick :)
[05:14] <Midtronic> US, east coast.  Originally near Philly
[05:14] <tarelerulz> Midtronic , Thanks for the help . I did not know that. I was going to get norton ghost program to do it ,but if I don't have to then that would be better
[05:14] <domor> How can't boot into ubuntu my screen turns off when starting up, this started happening after installing "restricted driver"for video card
[05:14] <nickrud> shinygiftson: does mono-xsp have a command front end? like mono-xsp stop?
[05:14] <riotkittie> although i did get it to work with the serial monkey drivers under feisty. hmm.
[05:14] <nickrud> lol
[05:14] <tomd> tarelerulz: you can do this with norton ghost. i don't know of a free software alternative but I'm sure there is one. just look on the net, youll need to use a livecd and put both hard drives in one machine, if you're on a laptop, thats a bit more complicated
[05:14] <scguy318> domor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in Recovery Mode
[05:15] <domor> O Ok
[05:15] <shinygiftson> no
[05:15] <shinygiftson> nickrud: no
[05:15] <Crozar> BADKITTY, how bad are you?
[05:15] <tarelerulz> Well, tomd I am on laptop  .  I will look into it
[05:16] <rockets> can somebody help me with my sound issue? Sound only works in Gnome-apss
[05:16] <rockets> apps*
[05:16] <Crozar> BADKITTY, i mean my first question is how is you great or fat
[05:16] <nickrud> shinygiftson: ok, then could you put the contents of the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/mono-xsp.prerm on a pastebin
[05:16] <broken> Anyone use the X1950Pro ATi card with ubuntu succesfully?
[05:16] <Midtronic> tarelerulz: on the upside, norton ghost is probably more user-friendly
[05:16] <rockets> e.g. if i use pidgin in kde i get sound
[05:16] <domor> scguy318: what happens when you put that command in" im a newbie
[05:16] <rockets> but not if i use kopete
[05:16] <tomd> tarelerulz. your problem is that of sending the drive image somewhere, you can use ethernet, serial, a usb hard drive
[05:16] <Midtronic> rockets: check what your sound output plugin is in gnome
[05:16] <Nutubuntu> So ... dist-upgrade would go like (1) make sure ubuntu-desktop's installed, (2) disable third party repositories -- including archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial? -- (3) run the upgrade tool, (4) smile and pour a cool refreshing beverage ... more or less ... ?
[05:16] <Midtronic> kopete/etc. are probably trying to use a different one
[05:16] <shinygiftson> nickrud: ok
[05:16] <riotkittie> ew. this is getting creepy.
[05:16] <nickrud> !upgrade | Nutubuntu (but that's essentially it)
[05:16] <ubotu> Nutubuntu (but that's essentially it): For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:16] <rockets> Midtronic: huh. . . . I'm talking about getting sound in KDE apps, RUNNING inside KDE.
[05:18] <ikon> i need a basic e-book about terminal on ubuntu
[05:20] <BADKITTY> sweet .. getting virtualbox up and running
[05:20] <robert_> how do I launch X apps from a 32bit chroot'ed environment?
[05:20] <Midtronic> rockets: right.  You might need to configure KDE to use a different sound output plugin
[05:20] <Nutubuntu> t/y nickrud  (and my buddy ubotu too) :)
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> crozar - YAY! i finally got it
[05:20] <osxdude> Anyone know where the sounds for Pidgin are located?
[05:20] <tomd> tarelerulz: i've also seen devices that allow you to plug laptop hd's into desktops.. you can probably just back it up to an external drive, or, maybe use ethernet or serial.. it depends on what software you use... actually, i think you can just do this with the dd command..
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> not sure how, but i think it had to do with the virutal vertical size or something
[05:20] <shinygiftson> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44682/
[05:20] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, ya its a bug they will fix it soon
[05:20] <Crozar> i mean conflict djmeltdown_
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> this is going to take alot of tinkering to learn
[05:20] <tomd> tarelerulz: with caution, and enough space on your drive, you can probably back it up with dd if=/dev/yourharddrive (like hda, sda) of=./backupfile
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> well its working now
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> hehe
[05:20] <Crozar> good to hear that djmeltdown_
[05:20] <riotkittie> djmeltdown_: virtual horizontal size
[05:20] <BADKITTY> I'm thinking since I have dual monitors and twinview + compiz-fusion, I'll have a linux desktop on one monitor, and winxp on the other (of course with compuz cube enabled)
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> im starting to think learning PHP is easier...lol
[05:20] <rockets> Midtronic: ok
[05:20] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, i failed my course just to learn how to run compiz in feisty and many other stuff like my laptopscreen
[05:20] <brettmr> Hey, So i recently got a DELL 20" widescreen flat panel, and i have not been able to get it working with my laptop yet, as Extended Desktop. I have an intel video card
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> failed course on what PHP?
[05:20] <brettmr> i have been playing around with Xrandr, but so far no luck
[05:20] <Evanlec> tomd, is he trying to backup his whole filesystem?
[05:20] <tomd> evanlec: his entire drive with xp/ubuntu
[05:20] <Midtronic> Evanlec: whole hdd
[05:20] <Evanlec> oh i c
[05:20] <nickrud> shinygiftson: ok, on line two in that file, put    exit 0
[05:20] <Evanlec> back it up to where tho
[05:20] <scguy318> !bash | ikon
[05:20] <ubotu> ikon: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:20] <Midtronic> bedtime.  'night all
[05:20] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, and i dont want anybody who is in trouble to not be solved because everybody hashes own life , and we are all brothers in the end and put aside the ego system and life with media and politics
[05:20] <scguy318> ikon: google Linux terminal and the first hit should help you out
[05:20] <nickrud> shinygiftson: then run the apt-get -f install again. If mono-xsp is running, it'll stay running, you can kill it afterwards with sudo killall mono-xsp
[05:20] <Nutubuntu> Be well, Midtronic
[05:20] <rockets> Midtronic: the test sound plays fine. in kcontrol
[05:21] <BADKITTY> ikon: did you look on isohunt or suprnova?
[05:21] <Midtronic> ikon: http://pizza.unbsj.ca/content/help/tutorials/crash.html looks decent
[05:21] <djmeltdown_> i hear that crozar
[05:21] <Evanlec> ikon, http://www.linuxcommand.org
[05:21] <Crozar> scguy318, how can i run wacom touchscreen tablet on an hp laptop? i downloaded ezpoint
[05:21] <riotkittie> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/ is good, as well... albeit not an ebook
[05:21] <nickrud> ikon: you can find good bash manuals at tldp.org as well
[05:21] <djmeltdown_> just greatful that other peeps are willing to helpout, i pitch in when i can
[05:21] <vontux> lets say I have formated a usb drive with gparted, how can I change the hard drive over from root permissions so that I can write to it w/ lower than root level permissions?
[05:21] <rockets> Midtronic: I'm setting everything to use ALSA
[05:22] <Midtronic> rockets: sounds like a plan.. I'd love to stick around and get it working with you, but I've got work tomorrow and had a loooong day
[05:22] <Midtronic> so good luck :)
[05:22] <Evanlec> Crozar, amen
[05:22] <rockets> Midtronic: heh, thanks for your help.
[05:22] <nickrud> vontux: mount the usb drive, then use either chown or chmod to taste on it's mount point
[05:22] <rockets> im pretty sure its solved
[05:22] <djmeltdown_> crozar - how do i use the desktop zoom, i see the controls talk about <super>?
[05:22] <djmeltdown_> whats super?
[05:22] <scguy318> Crozar: no clue, sorry
[05:22] <bruenig> super is the windows logo
[05:22] <djmeltdown_> oh, thanks
[05:22] <vontux> nickrud: thank you sir
[05:23] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, super is thewindows key ( its the key on your keyboard that is between Control and ALT )
[05:23] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, its windows button  logo
[05:23] <cake4567> hey
[05:23] <cake4567> I need help finding the location of my firefox profile info
[05:23] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, hold super and use your mousewheel
[05:23] <Crozar> cake4567, everything in yourhomefolder
[05:23] <xcl> hi all
[05:23] <cake4567> I'm in my home folder
[05:23] <cake4567> cake4567/home
[05:23] <desertc> !enter
[05:24] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:24] <Crozar> cake4567, press Control +H to show hidden files then click .mozilla or search firefox , somthin liek that you will find
[05:24] <vontux> nickrud: I tried to do the same thing earlier w/ no luck, I must have mistyped the command I think I did chmod ugo + r w or something
[05:24] <nickrud> cake4567: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/
[05:24] <vontux> the space screwed me up :(
[05:24] <shinygiftson> thx nickrud :)
[05:24] <nickrud> vontux: yup, no spaces
[05:24] <shinygiftson> its updated
[05:24] <ikon> thanks
[05:24] <cake4567> if .mozilla isn't in the home folder what do I do then nick?
[05:24] <nickrud> shinygiftson: yw
[05:24] <shinygiftson> is it make any problem to run mono nickrud?
[05:24] <xcl> I installed  vmware workstation 6 in my ubuntu 7.10 ,then installed gentoo in vmware ,but gentoo can't fond eth0 and eth1 ,why ???
[05:25] <riotkittie> cake4567: are you viewing hidden files? CTRL +H in nautilus  ... ls -a in a term
[05:25] <nickrud> cake4567: then you don't have a firefox profile
[05:25] <Evanlec> cake4567, .mozilla not in homefolder? well that just won't do!
[05:25] <nickrud> cake4567: try ls -a ~/.* :)
[05:25] <xcl> anyone can help me ?
[05:26] <Nutubuntu> !ask | xcl
[05:26] <ubotu> xcl: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:26] <nickrud> shinygiftson: no freaking clue, I know nothing about mono.
[05:26] <desertc> xcl: VMware isn't a good topic for this channel
[05:26] <Evanlec> Nutubuntu, he did ask a question above
[05:26] <cake4567> it has my passwords memorized so I must have a profile?
[05:26] <Crozar> i downloaded evtouch , its a touchscreen driver ,and it still doesnt work , must i get wacom-tools aswell >?>? to work tablet touchscreen?
[05:26] <Nutubuntu> Sorry xcl, Evanlec ... I think my coffee quotient is finally too low for intelligent survival
[05:26] <Evanlec> xcl, besides vmware, gentoo is a whole nother level of complication
[05:26] <brettmr> Hey, So i recently got a DELL 20" widescreen flat panel, and i have not been able to get it working with my laptop yet, as Extended Desktop. I have an intel video card
[05:26] <nickrud> xcl: the gentoo people would know much more about how it acts inside a vmware machine
[05:26] <brettmr> i have been playing around with Xrandr, but so far no luck
[05:26] <scguy318> xcl: ask the #gentoo people
[05:26] <Evanlec> Nutubuntu, lol
[05:27] <brettmr> Any ideas?
[05:27] <BADKITTY> xcl: You should try out virtualbox anyway
[05:27] <cake4567> that terminal code didnt list the profile folder
[05:27] <eazyass> when i try to compile something and get
[05:27] <eazyass> test1.c:(.text+0x1f4): undefined reference to `ga_chromosome_char_to_staticstring'
[05:27] <eazyass> /usr/local/lib/libgaul.so: undefined reference to `random_unit_gaussian'
[05:27] <eazyass> what does that mean i have to do
[05:28] <eazyass> i installed it with the standard ./configure;make;make install
[05:28] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ok, now im getting a grasp on this, what are some cool things to do..
[05:28] <cake4567> stupid me...hidden folder!
[05:28] <BADKITTY> djmeltdown: for what?
[05:28] <xcl> I have two operation system in my notebook,one XP ,one ubuntu,i think i can't use my xp vmware hard disk in ubuntu ,so use vmware,not use virtuabox
[05:28] <djmeltdown_> compiz - bad kitty
[05:28] <Evanlec> hmm, cool things to do on linux....well u could recompile your kernel!
[05:28] <Evanlec> lol
[05:29] <djmeltdown_> evan : lol thanks
[05:29] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, test :D
[05:29] <Evanlec> thats always fun :)
[05:29] <djmeltdown_> has anyone gotten a chance to use gOS yet?
[05:29] <nickrud> Evanlec: don't say that, I'm considering recompiling a kernel for the first time in years to get fglrx suspend to work :(
[05:29] <BADKITTY> xcl: I'm not sure if that made sense at all.. I have dualboot ubuntu and XP and I am installing XP in virtualbox in ubuntu right now
[05:30] <kolinab> OK, I think I might understand why this program I have extracted from a tarball keeps crashing - it seems all the files (including preferences files) are all read only for some reason - think that's why it's crashing on me?
[05:30] <BADKITTY> djmeltdown: Oh, yah Did you turn on all the effects?
[05:30] <Evanlec> nickrud, heh, i recently have been doing kernel compiles, i had done it before 8 years ago
[05:30] <Evanlec> nickrud, but doing them just for fun / performance / tweak / learning
[05:30] <kenkenshin>    	 	 	 	 	 	   hi a lot of my windows buttons have diapered the minimize and maximize buttons are not on my windows to get out of them i am using the 7.10 ubuntu desktop
[05:30] <kenkenshin> and my terminal is not working ether it just i a white box what can i do about this what will fix it
[05:30] <kenkenshin> i just install 7.10 and it was working before it started when I installed wine
[05:30] <nickrud> Evanlec: I gave it up when they stopped releasing stable versions, around 2.6.2 or 3 or so
[05:30] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, my best is shiftswitcher , rain , expo , reflection cube , and do some random animation like vacuum for closeing stuff :D get kiba-dock to make it look like a next generation system
[05:31] <Evanlec> nickrud, ive heard ppl say that before....but um, im running <IP_ADDRESS> and its prety darn stable
[05:31] <Evanlec> nickrud, i wouldnt bother trying to install 2.6.24-rc2 tho
[05:31] <BADKITTY> crozar: I like expo alot and the shrink to show displays .. super+E on mine
[05:31] <nickrud> Evanlec: I wouldn't call switching out fundamental stuff like slab & slub maintaining a stable kernel tree :)
[05:32] <Shadows> werd
[05:32] <Evanlec> nickrud, well since i dont really know what those do, it doesnt seem to bother me
[05:32] <djmeltdown_> badkitty : i tried to enable them, but it seems like everything is greyed out now??
[05:32] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Do you have twinview?
[05:32] <ikon> djmeltdown: what are you talking about?
[05:32] <djmeltdown_> ikon : compiz effects
[05:32] <Crozar> BADKITTY, no its a tablet laptop
[05:32] <BADKITTY> djmeltdown: some of the plugins seem to turn others off so you gotta pay attention to that
[05:32] <cake4567> how do I move my vista firefox profile to ubuntu
[05:33] <cake4567> copying and pasting the profile folder didn't wrok
[05:33] <Crozar> cake4567, youmean bookmarks?
[05:33] <robert_> yay
[05:33] <cake4567> saved passwords etc
[05:33] <robert_> firefox32 segfaults
[05:33] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Oh ok, my cube turned into a hexagon and I have no idea why, I have it set to 4 desktops
[05:33] <robert_> for no reason
[05:33] <nickrud> Evanlec: just an example, it used to be that even point releases just got bug fixes, not major new features which broke stuff. But I can't complain, really, the kernels in debian/ubuntu are really polished, it's not the kernel guys fault that ati drivers suck
[05:33] <Crozar> cake4567, save it from the firefox menu of vista  , by clicking bookmarks manage then export , save it put it in a floppy then login ubuntu go to manage bookmarks import then import from floppy finish.
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> robert_,  only on odd-numbered or even-numbered dates
[05:34] <Evanlec> nickrud, the kernels in debian/ubuntu are designed with "enable everything even if they dont need it" philosophy
[05:34] <Shadows> ok so i've been fighting with the blankscreen ever since 5.4 and until now useing the Vesa driver has worked fine but now Ubuntu is on my main machine. The Problem is that with vesa my comp boots to blank still
[05:34] <djmeltdown_> badkitty, crozar : hmmm, it seems like ALL my options are greyed out
[05:34] <robert_> Nutubuntu, no, it segfaults under gutsy64.
[05:34] <nickrud> Evanlec: shades of microsoft :)
[05:34] <cake4567> but i'm more worried about the pword
[05:34] <Crozar> BADKITTY, go to general options , DesktopSize , and Horizantal virtual size increase that to 2 or 4
[05:34] <Evanlec> nickrud, exactly
[05:34] <robert_> and yes- I got the reference
[05:35] <Crozar> cake4567, your passwords >?
[05:35] <Evanlec> nickrud, i mean the buntu kernel is good, its hardware compatibility is definitely great, i just wanted to see if i could get a faster kernel with some more bleeding edge features ;)
[05:35] <Crozar> write the passwords down cake4567
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> robert_, all the time ... does it in Feisty 32 too, I think it's been doing this back into Dapper
[05:35] <Shadows> so what I'm trying to say is HELP :(
[05:35] <djmeltdown_> well everyone, its my bedtime, i'll play more with compiz tomorrow at work, thanks for all your help!
[05:35] <kolinab> cake4567: to my knowledge you should be able to do the same with your entire profile folder. you should be able to transplant its contents into your ubuntu profile from vista. You know how to find your profile in vista?
[05:36] <Evanlec> nickrud, are u saying that the newer vanilla kernels dont have slab?
[05:36] <Crozar> from windows firefox click edit menu > prefrences > security > Show passwords
[05:36] <nickrud> Evanlec: I'm thinking about going whole hog paring it down to my hardware, or just swap back to the old memory allocator.
[05:36] <Crozar> cake4567, then you can see the usernames and passwords for which sites , write them down.
[05:36] <BADKITTY> Crozar: it is at 4
[05:36] <nickrud> Evanlec: they switch to slub, http://lwn.net/Articles/229984/ for a quick description
[05:36] <Crozar> BADKITTY, and the last 2 are 1's?
[05:36] <Evanlec> nickrud, thx, what do u mean swap back to the old memory allocator?
[05:37] <kolinab> shouldn't he be able to transplant the profile folder into ubuntu? that's what I do with thinderbird and it keeps my extensions and everything
[05:37] <cake4567> ya I just tried copying it over
[05:37] <tomd> cake4567, What directory did you copy it to?
[05:37] <Crozar> then  from the desktop workspaces of your ubuntu change that , that requires attention because they conflict with compiz , you must appropirate them both for such numbers to get you wants , BADKITTY
[05:37] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Ok sweet I had both at 2 and that fixed it.. although is there a setting to make both monitors move as one large cube as there was with beryl?
[05:37] <cake4567> slightly different  folder setup
[05:37] <cake4567> home/.mozilla
[05:37] <nickrud> Evanlec: the old code is there, I can switch back in kconfig really easily. But I need a day when I don't really need the machine :(
[05:37] <tomd> put it on ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:37] <Crozar> BADKITTY, large cube?
[05:38] <brettmr> You know, i don't know what to do, i've been using Ubuntu for like 2 years now on my laptop. I just got this new screen and can't get extended desktop to work.  I am considering downgrading back to feisty, but i like much of the new packages of Gutsy, not to mention that it took me like a month to set up dual head mode in feisty, and even then it wasn't True extended desktops. So i am considering firing up windows again, but i don'
[05:38] <Crozar> BADKITTY, you mean 1 paper double side?
[05:38] <cake4567> ya thats what I did
[05:38] <tomd> cake4587, try creating a profile then dumping all the files from the profile into the new profile
[05:38] <Crozar> brettmr, you dont need to downgrade
[05:38] <desertc> brettmr: Have you looked on the forums?
[05:38] <Evanlec> nickrud, so ur gonna make a super-lean kernel with only the hardware support you need, but use SLAB instead of SLUB ?
[05:38] <brettmr> yeah
[05:38] <BADKITTY> Crozar: cube with two monitors. cube goes accross both monitors instead of cubes in each individual monitor
[05:38] <brettmr> i have played around with xrandr but no luck
[05:38] <desertc> brettmr; Have you posted on the forums?
[05:39] <tomd> cake4567, that way ffox will definitely know about the profile
[05:39] <desertc> brettmr: You aren't the first person with a monitor and a laptop
[05:39] <brettmr> i think my monitor is actually too big to work well
[05:39] <kolinab> cake4567, the way I do it is, save the entire profile folder from vista. Then DELETE the information in the new ubuntu profile folder, but keep the ubuntu profile name and everything alone, then just transplant the contents from your vista profile into your ubuntu one. does that make sense?
[05:39] <CyberAgeVoodoo> hi, 2 quick questions. anyone know where the screensavers are kept in linux (directory) also... can windows screensavers be converted for linux
[05:39] <desertc> brettmr: that is an extremely common monitor
[05:39] <brettmr> from what i have read xrandr has a max virtual size
[05:39] <kenkenshin>   hi  my windows buttons have diapered the minimize and maximize buttons are not on my windows to get out of them i am using the 7.10 ubuntu desktop and my terminal is not working ether it just i a white box what can i do about this what will fix it i just install 7.10 and it was working before. it started when I installed wine a few days ago
[05:39] <nickrud> Evanlec: one or the other. I have the weekend where I won't need the laptop for work, I'm probably gonna do the replacement (and look over the config, haven't in a long time) and then decide about doing a custom one.
[05:39] <cake4567> kolinab...just tried it...no go
[05:39] <Crozar> brettmr, it runs great its just a known issue in gutsy and must do couple of things for some of the screens out theyr , but overrall people run great with gutsy only the unlucky ones have such problems , read more about xorg.conf files and fix for screen TV or crt or DFS laptop screen have an options for it like option dps true somethin like that if you need more info i might ge tyou the link
[05:40] <desertc> brettmr: I've got two and they work fine with xrandr
[05:40] <BADKITTY> Crozar: crap no it didn't fix it, it gave me a cube but only 2 desktops
[05:40] <Crozar> BADKITTY, youmust add more workspaces it shouldbe 4 to be a cube
[05:40] <Crozar> make horzinal to 4 then BADKITTY
[05:40] <kolinab> cake4567: I'm thinking. hmm
[05:40] <Evanlec> nickrud, yeah...i even tried to compile a 2.6.23 with -mm1 patch...didnt wanna behave properly tho, wasnt suprised
[05:40] <Crozar> BADKITTY, yes im using 2 desktops :p thatsmy options lo
[05:40] <nickrud> Evanlec: the restricted modules would either require manual replacement or recompile, etc. Not sure of the ramifications
[05:40] <tomd> cake4567, someone in #firefox will probably know why this is
[05:40] <cake4567> you need to mess with xorg.conf ...that graphics control panel just wont do it...my 24" isn't work yet
[05:40] <BADKITTY> Crozar: it is set to 4 but it gives me a hex instead
[05:40] <Crozar> BADKITTY, who wants more desktops lol , btw you can through the same method just addmore. increase
[05:41] <cake4567> thanks kolin...I can always just run firefox in wine
[05:41] <riotkittie> kenkenshin: as a quick fix for win decorations, ALT + F2 and type metacity --replace [or compiz --replace or emerald --replace]. if youre using compiz-fusion check the decorations plugin, assuming you have !ccsm installed
[05:41] <Evanlec> nickrud, all i had to do was use the nvidia binary drivers from nvidia.com instead of the restricted drivers
[05:41] <Evanlec> nickrud, tho that wasnt exactly painless
[05:41] <brettmr> desertc: did you set a virtual size in xorg.conf?
[05:41] <Crozar> hmm BADKITTY then right click workspaces prefrences , and change that aswell , fidle around with the ubuntu workspace prefrences and compiz desktop tab where i appiointed you.
[05:41] <kolinab> cake4567: there really is a way to do it. you just need to properly 'trick' firefox, that's all. Make sure firefox is closed when you do the file xfer, that could screw things up perhaps?
[05:41] <desertc> brettmr: I'm not using xrandr now
[05:42] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, I'll have the ati ones, and that's actually pretty easy now, with the ubuntu packaging code in the package from ati
[05:42] <shinygiftson> thx nickrud
[05:42] <cake4567> I've been closing it
[05:42] <BADKITTY> Crozar: I have been I can't get them to align properly.. this is nuts
[05:42] <nickrud> shinygiftson: all good then?
[05:42] <cake4567> I'll just play around some more
[05:42] <tomd> cake4567: don't give up and do that! thats fugly
[05:42] <shinygiftson> ys :)
[05:42] <kolinab> cake: k, good luck!
[05:42] <Crozar> just fiddle more to be a good girl BADKITTY  :P
[05:42] <Evanlec> nickrud, ati has a ubuntu package? lol
[05:42] <shinygiftson> but xsp server making problem as tht script is not working
[05:42] <shinygiftson> i've to do something else to debugg it
[05:42] <nickrud> Evanlec: the option --buildpkg Ubuntu/7.10 :)
[05:42] <open_lad> how do i see if my laptop is 32 bit or 64bit.???
[05:43] <Crozar> ok work completed for today , guys il be here tommorow at 4:30 ... cya's.
[05:43] <cake4567> its 32
[05:43] <nickrud> Evanlec: creates a driver deb, and kernel module source deb. REALLY nice
[05:43] <multiverse> How do I recompile BIGMEM into Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop
[05:43] <Nutubuntu> Okay ... g'night all ... off to dist-upgrade to Gutsy (wish me luck)
[05:43] <Evanlec> nickrud, really...but u can only do that with ati?
[05:44] <nickrud> Evanlec: I don't know if nvidia has it or not
[05:44] <Evanlec> multiverse, u will need to recompile your kernel
[05:44] <Evanlec> nickrud, well if they did im guessing i woulda heard about it somewhere
[05:44] <nickrud> Evanlec: it's part of the ati-driver-installer*.run ati distributes
[05:44] <multiverse> Yeah, I know.  The question is how?
[05:44] <nickrud> !kernel
[05:44] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:45] <Evanlec> nickrud, nvidia's is a .run script too i believe, but never saw any debs
[05:45] <Evanlec> is bigmem available in the buntu kernel?
[05:45] <multiverse> yes, the server edition has it by default
[05:45] <Evanlec> nickrud, why not just use 64-bit?
[05:46] <Evanlec> :)
[05:46] <multiverse> Hey ubotu, I reviewed that documentation, but it references Debian stuff.
[05:46] <broken> ...
[05:46] <broken> lol
[05:46] <scguy318> !bot | multiverse
[05:46] <ubotu> multiverse: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:46] <nickrud> Evanlec: I'm lazy
[05:46] <Evanlec> multiverse, ubotu is just a bot...don talk to it
[05:47] <broken> he seriously just spoke to a bot
[05:47] <multiverse> I love you ubotu.
[05:47] <broken> i am petrified
[05:47] <drulux> Is there any way to make Ubuntu more organized by somehow dumping the content of the root into a /sys/ subfolder or something
[05:47] <nickrud> multiverse: ubuntu is closely tied to debian, uses the same tools
[05:47] <Evanlec> nickrud, o well believe me if i could download nvidia-drivers.deb from their site i would in a heartbeat
[05:47] <multiverse> Those tools were not present.
[05:47] <kolinab> Can I ask someone to indulge me and install http://sourceforge.net/projects/golly/ to see if it works for them? The program runs OK for me but crashes on the preferences screen, and I'm not sure I'm installing it right.
[05:47] <nickrud> multiverse: one word: kernel-package
[05:47] <multiverse> Despite following the instructions in that article.
[05:47] <duvnell> okay, I've read some about upstart, but I don't see any reference to configuration files/tasks/etc except for /etc/events.d .. now my events.d directory doesn't have just a whole lot in it.. where is the rest of the config?
[05:48] <kolinab> it's the golly-1.2-gtk version I'm trying to run
[05:48] <multiverse> multiverse@multiverse-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kernel-package
[05:48] <multiverse> [sudo] password for multiverse:
[05:48] <multiverse> Reading package lists... Done
[05:48] <multiverse> Building dependency tree
[05:48] <multiverse> Reading state information... Done
[05:48] <multiverse> kernel-package is already the newest version.
[05:48] <multiverse> kernel-package set to manual installed.
[05:48] <multiverse> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:48] <Evanlec> multi dont paste in here
[05:48] <multiverse> sorry@!
[05:48] <duvnell> still mostly done by rc#.d scripts?
[05:48] <rubydiamond> do anybody know good svn client for ubuntu
[05:49] <Evanlec> !pastebin | multiverse
[05:49] <duvnell> rubydiamond: I like the cmd line
[05:49] <ubotu> multiverse: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:49] <usser> !subversion
[05:49] <multiverse> Thank you ubotu.
[05:49] <usser> !subversion
[05:49] <nickrud> duvnell: that's it. It doesn't need any more, most of the configs are from the individual packages
[05:49] <usser> !svn
[05:49] <Evanlec> multiverse, u will probly want kernel-source as well
[05:49] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[05:49] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[05:49] <Evanlec> multiverse, and build-essential