[12:41] <afeijo> how to fix this? "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!"
[12:41] <OerHeks> oh sorry Delano, clamtkl is the gui allrighjt
[12:41] <Delano> k
[12:41] <afeijo> plus this: "VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:41] <afeijo> Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line."
[12:41] <IdleOne> OerHeks: clamtk is the GUI
[12:42] <Behi> What is meant by an "end-to-end programmer"?
[12:42] <IdleOne> OerHeks: but you said that :)
[12:42] <Delano> So, how do I use it? Am I missing something?
[12:42] <IdleOne> Delano: in terminal type the command clamtk
[12:43] <IdleOne> it should start it up
[12:43] <blink> ? openbox
[12:43] <Delano> Thanks, IdleOne
[12:43] <IdleOne> !openbox > blink
[12:43] <Delano> Is there a way I can create a shortcut on my desktop or start menu perhaps
[12:43] <Delano> ?\
[12:44] <IdleOne> Delano: it should have added a menu item.
[12:44] <Delano> Ah, it appears now that I ran it
[12:44] <Delano> Thanks so much for your help. Even though I was being a n00b.
[12:44] <IdleOne> Delano: welcome :)
[12:45] <PuffTheMagic> .
[12:47] <ThePilote> Salut
[12:47] <ThePilote> Salut
[12:47] <ThePilote> Quelqu'un peut parler ?
[12:48] <Pici> !fr | ThePilote
[12:48] <rypervenche> ThePilote: oui, mais pas ici
[12:48] <G00053> #ubuntu-fr
[12:48] <ThePilote> On parle pas ici ?
[12:49] <Pici> ThePilote: #ubuntu-fr svp
[12:49] <IdleOne> ThePilote: en anglais seulement.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> pas icic . parle a #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <damagednoob> are the number of ssh connections to an ubuntu server limited to 2 ip addresses?
[12:50] <Pici> damagednoob: Shouldn't be.
[12:50] <hiwk> damagednoob: no
[12:50] <damagednoob> okay thanks
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Pici, what about ssh servers using several different ports simultaneously . Is this possibe because all I ever see in tutorials is port 22 or 222 , but never att the same time.
[12:53] <JoshR> Hello.
[12:53] <gry> Hi.
[12:53] <hiwk> BluesKaj: possible
[12:53] <JoshR> I have a question for those of you in the know.
[12:54] <hiwk> BluesKaj: just add multiple Port rows in your sshd config file
[12:54] <mcad23> Just done a fresh install of 11. Got dual monitors. I cant drag a window from one to the other
[12:54] <BluesKaj> hiwk, yeah I was just curious altho I have no reason to do so now
[12:54] <MInner> Morning guys. Can anybody tell me: if I copy var\cache\apt form one PC to another - would apt install packeage from cache if it consists there?
[12:55] <p0rtInna382> BluesKaj: Yes, that's possible
[12:55] <mcad23> Using Unity and  i can see the other monitors desktop
[12:55] <popey> MInner: not in my experience
[12:55] <bazhang> !aptoncd | MInner
[12:55] <popey> MInner: i use squid-deb-proxy-server and squid-deb-proxy-client to cache downloads
[12:55] <dabukalam> !ubuntu
[12:55] <JoshR> I am running Ubuntu 11 on my laptop.  I have it Dual Booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu off the same HDD.  I want to prevent Ubuntu from mounting the Windows 7 partition.  I am not sure how to accomplish this.
[12:56] <hiwk> BluesKaj: I've used that on a machine I wanted to access from outside a NAT using port forward through a stupid router, so from outside I ssh
[12:56] <MInner> Well, I need to download them to a single PC only. There's no network.
[12:56] <hiwk> sshed to 2222 or something, and 22 form inside the net
[12:56] <hiwk> JoshR: edit the /etc/fstab file accordingly
[12:57] <hiwk> JoshR: I bet there is a fancy GUI for that, but I'm a debian native
[12:57] <MInner> (I have installed it on one PC, now I need to install some of them on other PC (preferently from cache))
[12:57] <D^BLackHackO> Hello, Everybody
[12:57] <D^BLackHackO> I'm Korean Student
[12:57] <MInner> I have installed them* - some packages.
[12:58] <hiwk> MInner: I think so (given the same architecture), why not try :)
[12:58] <D^BLackHackO> so, you can not understant what I say, that's sorry
[12:58] <hiwk> MInner: otherwise, you could set up a local repository, don
[12:58] <hiwk> MInner:don't know exactly how to do that tho
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hiwk, I just ssh on a lan , no need to do so for remote pcs
[12:59] <bony> i get an error while starting ffserver it says "Address family not supported by protocol". Please help me
[13:00] <MInner> hiwk: Okay. I'll try to. And have a look at what is local repository.
[13:00] <qemubernd> Hello, can anybody help me configuring qemu so I can use a virtual machine via VNC?
[13:01] <qemubernd> I tried several tutorials but they didn't give any desired result.
[13:01] <xrdodrx> qemubernd, why QEMU instead of something like VirtualBox?
[13:01] <oz6t_hugo> msg nickserv identify oz6t_hugo minaprs38
[13:02] <bazhang> oz6t_hugo, use /
[13:02] <Pici> oz6t_hugo: Please change your password.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> oz6t_hugo, type that in the server text box , not the chat
[13:02] <xrdodrx> oz6t_hugo, /msg nickserv set password newpasswod to change your pass, since you just released it into the channel. ;)
[13:03] <xrdodrx> You should configure your client to send it automatically
[13:03] <xrdodrx> for next time
[13:03] <Stijnh> Hello. I'm using 11.04, is it possible to install htpasswd without installing apache2-utils or mini-httpd?
[13:03] <qemubernd> xrdodrx, dunno, just searched for virtualisation possibilities and qemu was the one I knew. Is virtualbox able to bring the virtual machine into network?
[13:03] <hiwk> qemubernd: yes
[13:04] <xrdodrx> qemubernd, yes, I think the easiest thing for you to do would be to virtualize your OS with virtualbox then install a VNC server on the virtual machine
[13:04] <hiwk> qemubernd: (somewhat depending on what you mean by "bring into network?")
[13:05] <VictorCl2> how can I search a text that's inside a bunch of files on a folder? .. from the interface
[13:05] <VictorCl2> there is no option to search inside folders
[13:05] <VictorCl2> rightmouse button on a folder doestn give search options
[13:06] <qemubernd> Well. I have a normal windows network and an ubuntu server. As wine can't handle a special windows server app, I wanted to bring a virtual computer with Windows Xp, which should be reachable inside the network.
[13:06] <xrdodrx> VictorCl2, you have a bunch of text files in a directory and you want to search for a string that could be in any of them?
[13:06] <VictorCl2> yes
[13:07] <Phate> hi at all!
[13:07] <xrdodrx> VictorCl2, open a terminal, type "grep "string or regular expression to find" /path/to/directory/*"
[13:07] <VictorCl2> yeah but ... why can't we do this from the interface??
[13:07] <xrdodrx> the terminal is an interface
[13:07] <xrdodrx> :P
[13:07] <VictorCl2> I mean from the graphics .. mouse click ... etc
[13:08] <xrdodrx> VictorCl2, well there might be a program like that, but if there's not you're free to write one
[13:08] <VictorCl2> I never remember this commands .. everytime I have tosearch for something I have to look the commands ... 10 minutes to search for damn text ¬¬
[13:09] <JoshR> Thanks Hwik.
[13:09] <cloud9> Hello
[13:09] <dc5ala> VictorCl2, there is a search function in the places menu, it has the option you looking for when you expand the advanced options
[13:09] <BluesKaj> VictorCl2, create a text file with commands  to save for future reference
[13:09] <afeijo> ok now I have the dual monitors working, but I cannot drag any window to the right monitor?? do I need that xinerama option?
[13:10] <xrdodrx> afeijo, do you have the same picture on both screens?
[13:10] <afeijo> xrdodrx, I have the wallpaper on both screens, mouse goes to both, right click works on the second screen, but that is it. Useless screen :(
[13:10] <qemubernd> hiwk, will this scenario work?
[13:10] <AdvoWork> if ive just done uname -m and it shows i686, does that tell me if its 32 or 64 bit? or neither?
[13:10] <JoshR> Oh wait I can't edit it with a text editor.
[13:11] <JoshR> x86
[13:11] <auronandace> AdvoWork: 32bit
[13:11] <AdvoWork> hmm, 2 diferent answers lol
[13:11] <JoshR> x86 is 32
[13:11] <hiwk> qemubernd: yes
[13:11] <AdvoWork> kewl, thanks for that
[13:11] <JoshR> So its one answer lol
[13:11] <AdvoWork> JoshR, i meant from what i've already been told
[13:11] <hiwk> quiescens: depending on the settings you choose in virtualbox, your virtual machine can get its own IP
[13:11] <JoshR> ahh ok
[13:12] <dc5ala> VictorCl2, i mean the main menu on top with that, not the nautilus one
[13:13] <VictorCl2> ok .. yes but if you are inside folder .. you still have to browse to there
[13:13] <JoshR> yet when I try the uname -m i get x86_64
[13:13] <imac24> Hello guys!
[13:14] <damagednoob> i'm trying to connect to an ubuntu server and it says connection closed but it's only happening from a certain client machine
[13:14] <damagednoob> how do i debug that?
[13:14] <JoshR> Could be a network configuration issue.
[13:14] <afeijo> funny is that with my pendrive ubuntu, same version, all works with my screens
[13:14] <gry> damagednoob: Connect using which protocol?
[13:14] <schnuffle> damagednoob: connect through ssh?
[13:14] <hiwk> damagednoob: what do you mean by connect?
[13:15] <damagednoob> sorry, it's through ssh
[13:15] <JoshR> If you can connect with other devices but not one machine that is a likely case.
[13:15] <harry218> hi guys, i'm using an eee netbook with amd c50. the problem is i can't watch youtube in 720p even in 480p is sometimes laggy. there's no such lag with my native win 7 starter. do you guys know how to fix this?
[13:15] <hiwk> damagednoob: if it is ssh, try ssh -vvv
[13:15] <gry> damagednoob: If it's ssh, run the client's command with '-vvv' switch to debug.
[13:15] <afeijo> another symtom, ccsm ask me to pick which screen I want to configure? it should affect both
[13:15] <imac24> could someone help me to figure out where to locate a flashDriver I've just inserted on my machine please?
[13:15] <afeijo> I will enable xinerama and test. How to restart gdm without reboot?
[13:15] <schnuffle> damagednoob: on the server side check syslog and firewall log
[13:16] <xrdodrx> afeijo, sudo service gdm restart
[13:16] <JoshR> I have tried editing the /etc/fstab file but it will not let me modify it.
[13:16] <damagednoob> schnuffle, i'll try that, the ssh client is putty
[13:16] <JoshR> Oh I need to log in with root don't I.
[13:16] <arcsky> hello can anyone see what could be wrong with my source.list http://pastebin.com/PAnhffbv ?
[13:17] <dc5ala> afeijo, try sudo restart gdm
[13:18] <schnuffle> arcsky: on line 4/5 there should be a space after dists
[13:18] <lostvoices> is there a way to change to unity on 11.04 without logging out? every time i log out and choose  Ubuntu it comes back in as classic. i would like to try the new unity
[13:19] <schnuffle> JoshR: use sudo to edit it. Ubuntu doesn't have the root account activated, so: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[13:19] <Reliant> My upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 hasn't gone very smoothly :/
[13:19] <JoshR> ya that didn't work
[13:19] <schnuffle> lostvoices: if you don'T have 3D support it will always default to classic
[13:20] <JoshR> You can log into the root account.
[13:20] <Reliant> Something broke with my cookies on my local apache, and KDevelop crashes if I use the keyboard
[13:20] <VictorCl2> http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekday=tue
[13:21] <lostvoices> schnuffle i have an ATI 1gb card in my laptop. i thought that would support it :/ i guess not
[13:21] <schnuffle> JoshR: please be more precise. What didn't work. sudo? Then your user isn't in the sudoers file and isn't the first user you created
[13:21] <schnuffle> lostvoices: you need the correct driver. Check under system preferences hardware
[13:22] <lauratika> hello everyone is there an gnome applet for bandwith meter?
[13:22] <lostvoices> i have the proprietry driver.. i just ran  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p   and got segmentation fault.. so i will check this out
[13:22] <JoshR> sudo vi /etc/fstab did not work
[13:23] <MK``> lauratika: the gnome panel System Monitor one shows a little graphic for you
[13:23] <schnuffle> lauratika: yes, but don'T know the name. There'S something called netstatus which could be what you're looking for
[13:23] <JoshR> Wait, Ok I see my mistake, it does work
[13:24] <JoshR> Ok so now that I'm in there, how do I edit it?
[13:25] <schnuffle> JoshR: fine :) and what was the error to keep in mind when the next one asks?
[13:25] <JoshR> Oh i typed vi/etc/fstab
[13:25] <schnuffle> JoshR: not familiar with vi. Then use gedit: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[13:25] <Reliant> Anyone know some decent IDEs in Ubuntu for working with PHP files?
[13:26] <schnuffle> Reliant: Eclipse but it's a beast
[13:26] <Reliant> isnt' that one more java oriented?
[13:26] <schnuffle> Reliant: It has plugins for c,c++,php,python but is written in Java/SWT
[13:27] <jimijix> Hi, i have alot of files that were created in ubuntu with double aposthropes and question marks, and i can't open or move them in windows. Please, can anyone help me?
[13:27] <schnuffle> Reliant: the flavour you're looking for is PDT http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.pdt
[13:28] <JoshR> brb
[13:28] <schnuffle> jimijix: use find to search for them and sed to rename
[13:31] <schnuffle> jimijix: there'S even a handy tool called rename, f.e. this would delete all white spaces in the filenames: rename "s/ *//g" *.mp3
[13:31] <imac24> could someone help me to figure out where to locate a flashDriver I've just inserted on my machine please?
[13:31] <jimijix> schnuffle: thanks, is that tool in ubuntu?
[13:31] <schnuffle> imac24: inserted? downloaded or installed?
[13:32] <Reliant> strange. Installed debugging symbols to file a kdevelop crash report, and the crash went away
[13:32] <schnuffle> jimijix: yes on my machine
[13:32] <jimijix> scnuffle: thanks, I'll try that :-)
[13:32] <imac24> schnuffle, I inserted into the usb port.
[13:33] <imac24> Now I can't locate it on the OS.
[13:33] <JoshR> Ok so commenting out the entries in fstab did not keep my Windows 7 partition from being mounted.
[13:33] <schnuffle> imac24: aaah a flash drive. Open a terminal and type mount
[13:33] <mcad23> php-cgi nginx, where do i modify the php-cgi config file??
[13:34] <schnuffle> mcad23: should be /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini
[13:34] <julian> jimijix: eg to change MP3 to mp3: for src in *.MP3; do tgt=$(echo $src | sed 's/MP3/mp3/'); mv $src $tgt; done
[13:34] <rumpe1> JoshR, you can also add "noauto" to the mount options in fstab, which means that the partition won't be mounted during booting
[13:35] <An_Ony_Moose> what is the encryption used for /etc/shadow?
[13:35] <lauratika> schnuffle: thanx, i installed via software centre but cant see the applet
[13:35] <seaquake> Hey in sound preferences I have no option "Analog Stero Output + Analog Stereo Input"... as in I can't use my microphone - any ideas?
[13:35] <julian> jimijix: eg to remove a space in filenames in your MP3s; do tgt=$(echo $src | sed 's/\ //g'); mv $src $tgt; done
[13:36] <julian> jimijix: (note different sed expression)
[13:36] <schnuffle> julian: rename is much more handy for novice
[13:36] <julian> schnuffle: oh.. you're right.
[13:36] <An_Ony_Moose> ah, never mind
[13:37] <jlebar> My desktop is hanging on startup after an update I applied last night.  I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.
[13:37] <schnuffle> julian: but i must admit my first construct relied on find and grep :)
[13:37] <lauratika> sorry got disconected
[13:38] <schnuffle> lauratika: you need to right click into the panel and add the widget
[13:38] <jpmh> I need to send a special character code sequence to a printer - the printer recognizes it and opens a cash drawer - I assumed I could just echo >/dev/lp0 but I get a permissions issue even when as root - how do I do this
[13:38] <Pici> jpmh: have you tried: echo 'whatever' | sudo tee /dev/lp0
[13:39] <jimijix> Julian: thanks, is there anyway to do this in windows? my ubuntu just went south :-(
[13:39] <jpmh> Pici: no - but I have done sudo echoc >/dev/lp0 - why do you think this latter is different
[13:39] <lauratika> schnuffle: yes try that...but is not there in panel menu... maybe i have to restar?
[13:39] <javier__> hi. I'm in ubuntu 11.04 and want to use hdmi to display in a tv screen. Problem is with sound, doesn't sound in tv speakers. How can I correct that? (have sound in tv throw hdmi?)
[13:39] <Pici> jpmh: Because sudo does not cross IO redirection operators.
[13:40] <imac24> schnuffle, ok, it showed a bunch of text, and now?
[13:40] <jpmh> Pici: aha - ty - will be right back after trying
[13:40] <schnuffle> imac24: can you see your flash being mounted somewhere, mostly /media/......
[13:40] <JoshR> Ok, so I tried that and it doesn't show it on the Unity bar I think it is called ( the bar on the left of the screen).
[13:40] <bakarakadaka> hi guys i just installed 11.04 on my samsung nc110 netbook and i think everything is working ; i notice under the proprietary driver thingy there is a mention of "broadcom sta wireless driver" What is this and do i need it? My wireless seems to be working fine...
[13:41] <JoshR> It also does not show up in the media folder or the mnt folder.
[13:41] <JoshR> However it still shows up in places.
[13:41] <schnuffle> JoshR: what did you put in /etc/fstab?
[13:42] <JoshR> noauto
[13:42] <schnuffle> JoshR: So you want a flash drive not to be mounted after inserting it?
[13:42] <JoshR> No, I am attempting to hide the Windows 7 Partition.
[13:42] <JoshR> Completely.
[13:43] <JoshR> Well visually
[13:43] <JoshR> lol
[13:43] <schnuffle> JoshR: AAaaah, let me check
[13:43] <jpmh> Pici: thank you so much - brilliant
[13:43] <JoshR> I also have a 41 MB partition that keeps showing up(it doesn't mount but is listed as swap in fstab).
[13:43] <Pici> jpmh: great to hear it works.
[13:44] <jpmh> bakarakadaka: I have found that installing the driver at least ensures that I get updates
[13:44] <schnuffle> JoshR: One suggestion is to move the mount point out of /media
[13:44] <imac24> schnuffle, thank you.
[13:45] <bakarakadaka> jpmh: updates to what?
[13:45] <JoshR> Ok, how would I go about doing that?
[13:45] <schnuffle> imac24: so you found your drive?
[13:45] <jpmh> k
[13:45] <schnuffle> JoshR: Wait, that method doesn't feels good, checking for better
[13:46] <JoshR> ok
[13:46] <JoshR> Thanks everyone who has helped.
[13:46] <_vaibhav_> how linux kernel come to know which madule to be loaded for respective device?
[13:46] <p3rsist> Any great alternative to Dropbox for linux? Im having problems with cant sync errors... in ubuntu.
[13:47] <JoshR> Ubuntu One but it isn't cross platform.
[13:47] <nickname_> computers dont understando about love
[13:47] <bakarakadaka> man love
[13:47] <Pici> !ot
[13:47] <JoshR> Hang on there is another one that I have been using that I think is cross platform.
[13:48] <jpmh> I have one system that when I do apt-get upgrade all seems fine but then at the end it tells me dpkg returned errors- looking back I see that it told me that errors were encountered while processing linux-image-.2.6.32-32 generic
[13:48] <JoshR> The problem is it is limited to 2GB for the free service.
[13:48] <bakarakadaka> JoshR: according to the splash screen it is
[13:49] <schnuffle> JoshR: An idea: change the mount point to something like /media/.<somename> The dott is the important, because it will hide it
[13:49] <nickname_> oh sure. with a mainframe the limit is higher :p
[13:49] <schnuffle> JoshR: so you can still access it but it's hidden from nautilus
[13:49] <bakarakadaka> JoshR: ubuntu1 's splash screen syays ubuntu, windows, web or mobile access
[13:50] <schnuffle> p3rsist: there'S http://sparkleshare.org/ not quite ready but sounds promising
[13:51] <nickname_> i dont believe in promises
[13:51] <misaq> hello
[13:51] <schnuffle> not quite ready means it's already wirking but may have some nit and bits
[13:51] <JoshR> Hmm, well schnuffle I don't want access to it.  What I am attempting to do (this might be important) is create a small partition that I run Linux on (right now it is a 64 GB partition).  I do not want to see the Windows 7 partition at all.  Right now it is not mounted but I can still see it in the places list when I'm in any file browser.
[13:52] <bakarakadaka> hey guys what is the shortcut to restart x in 11.04?
[13:52] <misaq> how can i enter a channel with my registered nick?
[13:52] <JoshR> Which makes it easy to accidentally click and mount.
[13:52] <bakarakadaka> it used to be alt+ctrl+backspace right?
[13:52] <JoshR> I am starting to think that because I am running off the same HDD it will not let me do that.
[13:52] <nickname_> just call
[13:53] <luigi> bakarakadaka: That was disabled by default.
[13:53] <bastidrazor> bakarakadaka: alt sysrq k
[13:53] <misaq> misaq
[13:53] <luigi> Wait, really?
[13:53] <schnuffle> JoshR: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/25/hide-partition-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[13:53] <luigi> bastidrazor: I thought ctrl alt bkspc was disabled in Ubuntu now.
[13:53] <misaq> how can I enter a channel with my registered nick?
[13:53] <nickname_> just call, the channel
[13:53] <Myrtti> luigi: it is
[13:53] <luigi> misaq: /join #channel
[13:54] <bastidrazor> luigi: that key combo was, you can now use alt sysrq k to restart X.
[13:54] <luigi> Interesting. It's Ubuntu-specific though, yes?
[13:54] <misaq> like this? misaq: /join #c++
[13:54] <Myrtti> no
[13:54] <luigi> Myrtti: It's not working in my distro.
[13:54] <Myrtti> luigi ^
[13:54] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell luigi about dontzap
[13:54] <misaq> misq: /join #c++
[13:54] <Myrtti> it should
[13:55] <Pici> !register > misaq
[13:55] <nickname_> its a general purpose operatig tiny system
[13:55] <luigi> Myrtti: Actually, it appears I can't hit my sysreq key on this keyboard in combination with other keys, so it's a hardware fault...
[13:55] <Pici> nickname_: Are you talking to someone in particular? Or just making random comments?
[13:55] <JoshR> Schnuffle that is only for the desktop that is not what I am talking about.
[13:55] <nickname_> sorry pici. im just answering
[13:56] <Pici> nickname_: Then please prefix your responses with the person's nick that you are talking to.
[13:57] <Myrtti> luigi: should work with the special keys given the kernel was compiled to support it
[13:58] <schnuffle> JoshR: Okay we're getting closer. The hide/inhide paramter from grub in the menu.lst might be what you want
[13:58] <luigi> Myrtti: It's a hardware issue with the keyboard itself, though. This is a netbook keyboard, and I need to press a "Fn" key to access SysRq. However, once a regular alphabet or numeric character is pressed, the "Fn" key no longer registers as pressed...
[13:59] <luigi> Most unfortunate.
[13:59] <JoshR> *facepalms*  Wouldn't that prevent me form getting into Windows 7 from the Grub menu and not affect it showing up in linux at all?
[13:59] <misaq> I cannot still enter that channel with my registered nick?
[13:59] <schnuffle> JoshR:  In grub2 the syntax is different
[13:59] <syrinx_priest> Hi all.  Anyone able to get their ubuntu machine to wake up at a certain time?
[13:59] <luigi> JoshR: You're trying to make the Windows 7 partition not appear at all in GNOME, right?
[13:59] <JoshR> Yes
[13:59] <bakarakadaka> luigi: im on a netbook too
[14:00] <luigi> syrinx_priest: Look for "Alarm Wake-up" in your bios.
[14:00] <JoshR> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04
[14:00] <pc> slt
[14:00] <pc> comment formater xunbutu &o
[14:00] <luigi> JoshR: Add an entry to the fstab to mount the windows partition nowhere.
[14:00] <syrinx_priest> luigi: yeah, tried that, no dice.  Oh well, thx anyway!
[14:00] <luigi> JoshR: That will prevent gnome from finding it.
[14:00] <Pici> !fr | pc
[14:00] <bastidrazor> luigi: then reenable ctrl alt backspace
[14:00] <luigi> syrinx_priest: Can you use wake-on-lan?
[14:00] <JoshR> Aparently not Luigi it still shows it but just doesn't mount it.
[14:00] <luigi> bastidrazor: Already did. :P
[14:01] <syrinx_priest> luigi: Doesn't work either.
[14:01] <schnuffle> JoshR: using grub1/2?
[14:01] <pc> je veu fprmater mon ordi en xp comment je fait ?
[14:01] <luigi> JoshR: Have you tried mounting it to /mnt/windows and looking for it in the gnome manager?
[14:01] <luigi> syrinx_priest: Really? WOL is pretty standard these days.
[14:01] <bakarakadaka> so is unity-2d supposed to be less demanding than the default one?
[14:02] <pc> comment je formate mon ordi ?
[14:02] <syrinx_priest> luigi: Heh, yup, really.  I'll keep messing with it tho... user error is always a possibility
[14:02] <luigi> pc: entrer #ubuntu-fr
[14:02] <JoshR> Never mind everyone, there is an inability to convey what I want.
[14:02] <JoshR> have a good day
[14:03] <luigi> JoshR: You too.
[14:03] <pc> perssone répond je veu  le remtre a xp
[14:03] <luigi> pc: /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:03] <MInner> Morning. There's a trouble. When I tried to install additional packages for LibreOffice there was no internet connection. So, I don't know why, but aptitude uninstalled the whole LibreOffice. So now when I put down "aptitude install libreoffice-writer" (cd-rom is in sourses.list) it tell to me "No matching version". What's wrong with it?
[14:03] <schnuffle> pc: ici c'est en anglais /join #ubuntu-fr pour causer en francais
[14:03] <luigi> pc: On ne parle pas le francais dans #ubuntu, oui.
[14:04] <lostvoices> schnuffle... thanks for the help buddy i habe unity running now :) turns out i had an old ati driver installed
[14:04] <schnuffle> lostvoices: fine :) your welcome
[14:04] <nickname_> magic keep the version of a program
[14:04] <nickname_> minner
[14:05] <NewUser> Hi, i want to install ubuntu to run alongside windows 7 on my laptop, could someone please talk me through exactly what to do?
[14:05] <bakarakadaka> what was joshr wanting?
[14:05] <luigi> NewUser: You need to first boot from a CD or USB drive into the Ubuntu installer.
[14:05] <luigi> NewUser: Do you have that set up?
[14:05] <qemubernd> hiwk, which settings should I choose so the VM get's it's own IP and is seen inside the network?
[14:05] <bastidrazor> NewUser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows  tells it all
[14:05] <luigi> bakarakadaka: He wanted his Windows drives to not show up in Nautilus.
[14:06] <jenev> are the dev packages on the installation dvd?
[14:06] <nickname_> yes jenev
[14:06] <jenev> ok thanks
[14:06] <HACKKKK> luigi tu peu m'aider stp
[14:06] <Guest18581> what is Rails IRC server
[14:06] <NewUser> no i don't, really what i want to know is will i have to bother with creating a new partition in order to run it if i don't want to run ubuntu inside windows
[14:07] <nickname_> they came with a cd apart jenev
[14:07] <HACKKKK> luigi je veu remetre mon ordi sous xp comment je fait
[14:07] <bakarakadaka> NewUser: this one's got some handy tips if youre working in a win7 environment
[14:07] <bakarakadaka> NewUser: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/01/28/dual-booting-windows-7-and-ubuntu-10-10/
[14:07] <auronandace> !fr | HACKKKK
[14:07] <bakarakadaka> NewUser: or at least it helped me
[14:08] <luigi> HACKKKK: Et je ne parle pas francias bonne.
[14:08] <NewUser> Ok, thanks a lot guys, you're really helpful
[14:08] <p3rsist> Anyone tried Sparkleshare?
[14:09] <p0rtInna382> p3rsist: Yes
[14:09] <nickname_> persist i supose no many people know that
[14:09] <HACKKKK> luigi how to format his computer and put it back in xp
[14:09] <HACKKKK> how to format his computer and put it back in xp
[14:10] <BluesKaj> HACKKKK, as kin #windows
[14:10] <luigi> HACKKKK: He needs to reinstall his old windows boot manager using the "EasyBCD" program in XP, then he can simply delete his Ubuntu partition.
[14:10] <nickname_> few people knows that
[14:11] <schnuffle> can somebody get rid of nickname_
[14:11] <nickname_> some people like jenev couldnt listen
[14:12] <Myrtti> nickname_: hi
[14:12] <krrish> hi
[14:12] <Moflux88> hi
[14:12] <krrish> hi myrtti
[14:12] <DeadmanIncJS> hey guys, im dual booting Win7 and Ubuntu 11.04.  It loads Win7 just fine, but when I select Ubuntu it just sits there on a black screen.  no HDD movement.  any ideas?
[14:13] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: you have to try and reinstall GRUB
[14:14] <DeadmanIncJS> how do i go about doing that?
[14:14] <Soci3ty> it isnt grub
[14:14] <Soci3ty> if windows 7 loads fine
[14:14] <DeadmanIncJS> yeah, i have choices when it boots up
[14:15] <Soci3ty> DeadmanIncJS: restart to grub
[14:15] <DeadmanIncJS> but for some reason ubuntu wont boot anymore :/
[14:15] <Soci3ty> then edit the commands for ubuntu
[14:15] <DeadmanIncJS> ok, hang on
[14:15] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: yes, you have choices, but it doesnt mean that it OK
[14:15] <DeadmanIncJS> let me get the laptop down here
[14:15] <Soci3ty> add nomodeset to the end
[14:16] <Soci3ty> and change splash to nosplash
[14:16] <Soci3ty> that fixed an error i had on my hp laptop
[14:16] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: you can also try update grub by running the recovery mode
[14:16] <bilel> slt
[14:16] <DeadmanIncJS> ok Soci3ty, i hit "E" @grub
[14:17] <bilel> where am i ??pleaze
[14:17] <Soci3ty> DeadmanIncJS: remove the line that says splash
[14:17] <bastidrazor> bilel: you've made it to heaven. rejoice
[14:17] <Soci3ty> or something of the sort
[14:17] <Soci3ty> and add nomodeset and nosplash
[14:18] <Soci3ty> that'll fix most graphic related issues
[14:18] <DeadmanIncJS> the whole line?  "linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38......"
 :D is there an easy way to set up the start of vm when the profile is loaded?
[14:22] <Soci3ty> ok
[14:23] <HACKKKK> envoi le serv  français
[14:23] <Soci3ty> DeadmanIncJS: it recommend editing /boot/grub.cfg
[14:23] <HACKKKK> !sms kad
[14:23] <Soci3ty> and adding it to the line there
[14:23] <DeadmanIncJS> hang on
[14:23] <hiwk> qemubernd: I don't get what you ask. what profile?
[14:23] <Soci3ty> so youdont have to edit it everytime you wanna boot
[14:23] <Soci3ty> lol
[14:24] <qemubernd> hiwk, the local profile on server. Though it would be better if the vm would be loaded at startup of the server.
[14:25] <DeadmanIncJS> Soci3ty, can i just PM u?
[14:25] <DeadmanIncJS> make my life easier :)
[14:25] <Soci3ty> sure
[14:25] <DeadmanIncJS> k
[14:26] <debi_lector> debian have a lot of helps, but it needs a fast computer
[14:26] <Myrtti> debi_lector: hi
[14:26] <luigi> Debian doesn't need a faster computer than Ubuntu...
[14:26] <mosno> luigi, hi :)
[14:27] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: did it worked?
[14:27] <luigi> mosno: Need some help?
[14:27] <mosno> luigi, no, just lurking...
[14:27] <DeadmanIncJS> Moflux88: yes, but he's having me edit grub so i don't have to keep doing this :)
[14:27] <hiwk> qemubernd: googled and found http://vboxtool.sourceforge.net/ , haven't tried that tho
[14:29] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: ok, glad to hear that...i had experienced the exact same thing before...fixed it using a diffrent approach..
[14:29] <jon_high9000> is there a way to setup a crontab to clear firefox cache?
[14:30] <luigi> jon_high9000: Yes. If I'm not mistaken, FF puts the cache in a directory in your home dir. Just find that dir with some research, and clear its contents periodically with cron.
[14:30] <p0rtInna382> jon_high9000: You could try deleting the appropriate files from your firefox folder with your profile, provided Firefox isn't open and locking them to its process
[14:30] <rimswald> can someone tell me why I'm not able to access /etc/apt/sources.list?  Its says "Not a directory" even though i can see it with ls command
[14:30] <bastidrazor> Soci3ty: making changes to /boot/grub.cfg is a bad idea and will be overwritten when grub updates or kernel updates happen
[14:31] <Onlyodin> jon_high9000, Doesn't Firefox have an option not to keep cache data?
[14:31] <Soci3ty> bastidrazor: it works though
[14:31] <Soci3ty> ;)
[14:31] <m_fulder> hey could someone help me with my postfix error? Im getting this error while trying AUTH via telnet: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure .. and I have no idea how I could solve this :O
[14:31] <bastidrazor> Soci3ty: it is the wrong way to go and will not work once grub updates itself in the near future.
[14:31] <schnuffle> rimswald: it's /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:32] <rimswald> thank you schnuffle
[14:32] <Pici> rimswald: /etc/apt/sources.list is a file. /etc/apt/sources.list.d is a directory.
[14:33] <_fury> HI i get that error : "X Error of failed request:  BadWindow " when trying to run glxgears. ~3hours ago it worked.... Can someone help me?
[14:33] <_fury> restarting X didnt help
[14:33] <jon_high9000> Onlyodin: there is a option to clear cache but i am trying to setup cron to do that. :)
[14:34] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!
[14:34] <Jagajugue> sup!
[14:35] <schnuffle> jon_high9000: I would use lsof to check if profile is open, if not delete the cache files
[14:35] <LABcrab> How do i add the ISO to the GRUB boot list?
[14:35] <Jagajugue> a tah!
[14:35] <Jagajugue> esperta vc!
[14:35] <schnuffle> LABcrab: normally you're able to set it in the PC bios
[14:35] <Jagajugue> ^^
[14:36] <bastidrazor> Soci3ty: making changes in /etc/default/grub  is the proper method.
[14:36] <LABcrab> Well, i'd prefer to boot from USB, using GRUB.
[14:36] <LABcrab> This is an old PC.
[14:38] <schnuffle> LABcrab: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992426
[14:40] <jon_high9000> luigi: thank you . :)
[14:40] <xukun> is't possible to bitstream  DOLBY TRUE-HD & DTS-HD MASTER audio? and which video card is advised?
[14:44] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I solved my display issues.  I went with Xubuntu and installed the 3d drivers which if I recall the option wasn't available under ubuntu.  I now have dual displays setup in their respective native resolutions :D
[14:45] <debi_lector> not all drivers are aviable
[14:47] <xukun> is't possible to bitstream  DOLBY TRUE-HD & DTS-HD MASTER audio? and which video card is advised?
[14:47] <xukun> anybody?
[14:48] <stowoda> hi
[14:49] <stowoda> if I press ~ I need to press the space key after that to see ~
[14:49] <Myrtti> stowoda: that's normal
[14:49] <stowoda> that happens only on my private pc
[14:50] <stowoda> at work (debian) it appears just after typing ~
[14:50] <herkupus> .oO(nodeadkeys)
[14:50] <stowoda> hmm
[14:50] <xukun> how is the hardware acceleration of the ati video cards now days? or is vdpau and nvidia still the way to go?
[14:50] <stowoda> nodeadkeys You say.. ?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> xukun: imho - nvidia :)
[14:51] <LABcrab> schnuffle: The instructions are obsolete.
[14:51] <herkupus> stowoda: configure the keymap to use the "nodeadkeys" variant
[14:51] <stowoda> ok found it
[14:51] <schnuffle> LABcrab: using grub2?
[14:52] <stowoda> ths :)
[14:52] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Well, my Ubuntu is 9.10, but the PenDriveLinux doesn't exist anymore.  :(
[14:52] <stowoda> and it works :)
[14:52] <stowoda> thanks very much!
[14:52] <stowoda> that was quiet annoying
[14:52] <LABcrab> i want to upgrade to 11.04 with a fresh install.
[14:52] <xukun> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:53] <debi_lector> there are five years of support
[14:53] <Myrtti> debi_lector: hi
[14:55] <schnuffle> LABcrab: I need to know if you're using grub1 or 2?
[14:55] <rethus> if i start my ubuntu desktop, i never see the grub menu... but cause the startup now fail after i installed ati catalyst driver, i neet to boot into rescue mode.
[14:55] <Guest40013> what is this
[14:55] <rethus> what can i do to show this grub menu?
[14:56] <jon_high9000> p0rtInna382: thank you . :)
[14:56] <cmrodican> hi i have a question...  i just got a new notebook w windows 7 on it and duall booted it with ubuntu lucid, which is the os i am most used to...  does anyone know what is the best terminal emulator out there for windows that has access ot the whole filesysten the way xterm and gnome terminal do>
[14:56] <Onlyodin> rethus, at what point does your boot fail? Can you use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a login prompt?
[14:56] <rethus> complete freeze ofdesktop
[14:56] <dc5ala> rethus, you can try putting a screen resolution for grub in its config
[14:57] <rethus> it starts up, shows the root-login... if i'm be very fast, i can login... but than i see some startmessages (which are normaly also disapear before root-login promt) and system freeze
[14:57] <SuNotisima> how can i configure my US-Dvorak keyboard to send ä/ö/ü when pressing Alt Gr + a/o/u
[14:57] <rethus> i don't can type anything in groob... like i said... no startup
[14:57] <rethus> so i need rescuemode for grup.
[14:58] <dc5ala> rethus, had that on one machine where the display could not handle the resolution/frequencies somehow grub chose
[14:58] <rethus> sometimes if system not shutdown cleanly i see the grub-menu
[14:58] <rethus> but can i garant that the grub is show at next startup?
[14:58] <debi_lector> somtimes i see code that i dont have to see
[14:59] <Onlyodin> rethus, I had a similar problem the other day, ATI proprietary driver didn't work as planned, I used Ctrl-Alt-F1 to bring up a login prompt, then ran jockey-text -d xorg:fglrx as root.
[14:59] <rethus> Thanks for this hint, but didn't work for me. System freeze completly if i start in normal mode
[14:59] <SuNotisima> how can i configure my US-Dvorak keyboard to send ä/ö/ü when pressing Alt Gr + a/o/u
[14:59] <rethus> if i'm very very fast, i can login as root... than freeze again
[15:00] <schnuffle> rethus: to see the messages, change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="......"  to have nosplash in /etc/default/grub
[15:00] <rethus> no chance to enter something else
[15:00] <Onlyodin> Possibly try booting to Init/Runlevel 1 (single user mode)
[15:00] <rethus> Onlyodin: how... i never see grub-screen booting up like on normal boot
[15:00] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Whatever comes with 9.10
[15:00] <rethus> like i said... only if system shutdown unclean... the grub-menu appear
[15:01] <rethus> and exactly this menu i need now
[15:01] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sudo dpkg -l | grep grub and tell me the version
[15:01] <rethus> to start resue-mode
[15:01] <rethus> is there a shortcut on pc boottime to show grub
[15:02] <IdleOne> rethus: hold the SHIFT key while booting and that will show grub menu
[15:02] <schnuffle> rethus: should be the escape key
[15:02] <genii-around> rethus: depending on grub version either left-shift or esc
[15:02] <Conanbatt> Hey. Since yesterday i wasnt able to boot my ubuntu installed with wubi. everytime it booted i get the grub console, and i dont know where to go from there. I have a USB stick and im currently on ubuntu loaded like so
[15:02] <rethus> great, thats is what i searched for
[15:02] <rethus> i try it
[15:02] <Conanbatt> i really want to see how to get back the previous configuration as well as the files.
[15:02] <rethus> Onlyodin: other question: does Catalyst 11.8 works for you, or is this broken for now...  i only see a howto for ubuntu for 11.7
[15:03] <rethus> but 11.8 braks my system completly
[15:03]  * genii-around ponders 11.8
[15:05] <home> window
[15:05] <Onlyodin> rethus, I'm not using the proprietary drivers at present.
[15:05] <albo> Hi Folks.  Trying to get intel vid driver rolling on ubuntu server 11.04 with xorg.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Mavericki8xxStatus indicates that i just have to modify xorg.conf.  I did so, but not sure how to check that it's actually using the intel driver.   Any idea how I can check this?  thanks!
[15:06] <LABcrab> schnuffle: One is 0.97-29ubuntu59 and the other is 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1
[15:06] <DeadmanIncJS> who wants to help me port fwd setup so somebody can login my computer from their place
[15:07] <SuNotisima> how can i use xmodmap to configure my US-Dvorak keyboard to send ä/ö/ü when pressing Alt Gr + a/o/u
[15:07] <dc5ala> albo, you can check Xorgs log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> albo: why do you need the intel driver running on a server? Server is text only
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: grab your router manual, it will tell you
[15:09] <schnuffle> LABcrab: do you have a flopyy drive?
[15:09] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Yes, but booting from floppy and CD is problematic.
[15:09] <schnuffle> LABcrab: use plop on floppy to boot usb: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/445010:weekend-project-use-the-plop-boot-manager-to-boot-older-computers-from-usb
[15:10] <jpmh> I have a system that when it runs apt-get update dpkg fails with the message error were encountered when proessing linux-image-2.6.32-32-generic and other kernels - how do I clear this
[15:10] <Conanbatt> can someone help me? ubuntu just stopped completely from working. It doesnt boot and i  have lost access to all my work -.-
[15:10] <schnuffle> jpmh: open terminal check with df -h if /boot is full
[15:10] <Conanbatt> i dont know how to recover all i had, i will lose days of work
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:11] <luigi> jpmh: Don't use apt-get, try using aptitude to auto-remove packages. Provided you have aptitude installed.
[15:11] <albo> @ActionParship: want to run mostly as a server, and want to use xbmc.  no need for full blown ubuntu desktop, or at least just once in a while.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: why don't you have a backup?
[15:11] <albo> I installed Xorg
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> albo: so its a desktop OS then
[15:11] <Conanbatt> because its not a solution to the problem
[15:11] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: get a USB key with a live system and try to recover your work
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: I know, it's just a side question
[15:12] <dc5ala> Conanbatt, you can boot from the live cd and copy your data to somewhere else, e.g. flash drive
[15:12] <Conanbatt> i am right now booted from a USB . But its absolutely empty, how would i see my previous ubuntu files?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> albo, are you going to install xbmc stand alone ?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> albo: can you give the output of: sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a     use a pastebin to hold the text
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l   do you see partitions
[15:13] <safire> are there any supported 32bit JRE's on ubunu 64?
[15:14] <albo> @BluesKaj - that's the plan.  But just figuring it all out now.  Have xorg installed, but when running xbmc-standalone from command prompt, doesn't find the display.  I think i have to figure out how to put xbmc in startx or something.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> safire: you may be able to use sun java 32bit if you install ia32-libs
[15:14] <Conanbatt> ActionParsnip, this is what i see http://pastebin.com/X4ypYD0c
[15:14] <jpmh> luigi: I have aptitude installed how do I do what you suggest
[15:15] <dc5ala> Conanbatt, do you see your hard drive in nautilus (file manager)?
[15:15] <luigi> jpmh: man aptitude
[15:15] <queso> How do I setup an apt source to be trusted?
[15:15] <Conanbatt> yes i see my only hard drive and have access to it. I can even see the ubuntu folder where i installed it (or where wubi did, i think)
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: ok i'm guessing the 4Gb thing is what you are booting to, does the 250Gb drive have both Windows and Ubuntu on it?
[15:16] <Conanbatt> yes
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: so you used wubi?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> albo, I tried the stand alone xbmc as a media server ..it should start in the run command , alt+f2
[15:16] <Conanbatt> yes
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: oh boy
[15:16] <albo> @ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/VRHmJbnk
[15:17] <dc5ala> Conanbatt, check if you can find there a home directory inside there where you assume the installation
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: ok you will need to mount the NTFS, then navigate to the folder with the wubi file then mount that
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> albo: yeah those intel chips stink, you will need an xorg.conf as you say
[15:17] <ianliu> I'm trying to install ubuntu in my pendrive without success. How can I install it from a debian distro?
[15:18] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: when you have mounted the ntfs partition you need to mount the wubi image: sudo mount -o loop /media/WindowsXP/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/root.disk
[15:18] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Lots of files!
[15:18] <schnuffle> LABcrab: ?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> albo: may help http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/hardware-en-drivers/no-devices-detected-82852855gm-intel-graphics-device-(rev-02)/?imode
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: why didn't you back up this "important" work at any point?
[15:19] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Clicked on the tools by accident.
[15:19] <Conanbatt> i use everything online, i actually havent lost much work as much as my whole environment and configurations
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> albo: also: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/detecting-3d-acceleration-support-for-graphic-device-370741/     use the intel driver in the file, not i810
[15:20] <schnuffle> ianliu: I use multisystem as unetbootin wasn't woking reliably: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[15:20] <Conanbatt> i could install ubuntu from scratch but i want to know why it stopped working at all without notice
[15:20] <Conanbatt> because im going to lose a few days remembering all the things i had installed
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> albo: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[15:20] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: That's certainly due to an update which isn't handled correclty by the wubi env
[15:21] <Conanbatt> so its impossible to recover that installation?
[15:21] <Conanbatt> i must salvage and install outside windows?
[15:21] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: Wubi is only for testing purposes. Don't rely on it. There are often people showing up having wubi problems
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: just a lot of work, not impossible. In Ubuntu you can mount the image and you may be able to get the data
[15:22] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: Of course haven'T you seen my post. 1. Boot into some live system, 2. Mount the NTFS partition to lets say /media/win, 3. Mount the wubi disk image somewhere else and then you can access your files
[15:23] <hiwk> in my unity bar, I want to change the startup options for a program. I guessed that right-clicking on it would give me some options, but no
[15:23] <hiwk> how do I do that?
[15:23] <invasorzim> Help, wireless doesnt work in fresh installed natty onto dell laptop
[15:23] <schnuffle> invasorzim: model?
[15:23] <albo> @ActionParsnip & @dc5ala: from /var/log/Xorg.0.log, seems like intel driver is getting loaded?  http://pastebin.com/v44zFxpq
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> hiwk: the only way I've seen is to either edit he files in /usr/share/applications   or possibly use alacarte
[15:24] <invasorzim> schnuffle: inspiron n4010
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> albo: sure but not at the right res, probably due to your monitor not reporting EDID
[15:24] <invasorzim> schnuffle: 1 time out of 20 powerups it works
[15:26] <schnuffle> invasorzim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1558791
[15:26] <LABcrab> schnuffle: I/O error with the floppy.
[15:26] <schnuffle> invasorzim: http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/how-to-solve-no-wireless-networks-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[15:27] <edbian> invasorzim: what chipset do you have?  (I think I might be able to save your time)
[15:27] <LAcan> i am trying to cat a bunch of textfiles some of which have accents, but the ouput is always "?" for non-english characters... how can i fix it? Do I need to update my locale and will this change my keyboard layout or anything?
[15:27] <Xaiphan> Hey guy's, is it ok to ask Ubuntu related questions here or should i pop over to the beginner chat?
[15:28] <invasorzim> edbian: does this answer? 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[15:28] <valthyx> Xaiphan, go on
[15:28] <edbian> invasorzim: Yes it does.
[15:28] <edbian> invasorzim: your chipset is bcm4313
[15:28] <LABcrab> LAcan: The CAT will eat them all and the mice will run away!
[15:28] <invasorzim> edbian: ok...
[15:28] <schnuffle> LABcrab: oh man your're really stucked with a rotten peace of a PC :). Hmmm. Lets recapitulate. You have an old PC running 9.10. You want to install 11.04 fresh, you have a USB key but booting from USB is not available from BIOS. IOs that right
[15:29] <edbian> invasorzim: Hang on I have to research a second
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !afk > klebers[afk]
[15:29] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Can't i just add the ISO in the GRUB?
[15:29] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Or add USB in GRUB?
[15:29] <Xaiphan> I installed Ubuntu 11.04 to a 8GB Flash drive, i used 4GB(the max) for reserved space? so that i could have room to treat it like a side OS, well after updates and nothing else i am getting "Not enough Space" warnings
[15:30] <invasorzim> edbian: the module used is bcmwl, uses dkms and all... and brightness control doesnt work either, but thats another issue
[15:30] <edbian> invasorzim: install the first three packages from here:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcm4313&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all
[15:30] <RA_drc> hello, it seems like my external drive is mounted with the "noexec" mount option.  how can i change this?
[15:30] <edbian> invasorzim: Do you already have them installed?
[15:30] <invasorzim> lemme see
[15:31] <edbian> invasorzim: thanks for telling me about the module :)
[15:31] <valthyx> Xaiphan, use larger than 4GB, you may want 6GB
[15:31] <Xaiphan> There wasn't an option to go larger than 4028MB
[15:31] <LABcrab> schnuffle: It MUST be done!  It can't be impossible!  Don't give up!
[15:31] <Hoyt> hi , what's the best tool for converting audio files ? GUI required
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: look into remount command
[15:32] <invasorzim> edbian: sta-common and sta-source arent
[15:32] <edbian> invasorzim: so install them all
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: mencoder does it easily in cli
[15:32] <invasorzim> ok
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: what are you converting from - to
[15:32] <valthyx> Xaiphan, try typing instead of choosing
[15:32] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, maybe you need to clean package cache (/var/cache/apt/archives/) via sudo apt-get clean
[15:32] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Still there?
[15:33] <Xaiphan> let me give the clean-up a try
[15:33] <spo0kz> LABcrab, Im also interest to her ehis response on that issue
[15:33] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, but have a look how much space you have left after cleaning that, guess not much then :P
[15:33] <invasorzim> edbian: done... do i need to reboot?
[15:33] <Hoyt> ActionParsnip: sometimes splitting ape+cue format , maybe some flac here , and AAC format is the objective
[15:33] <edbian> invasorzim: you can, or sudo modprobe wl
[15:33] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Really?
[15:33] <invasorzim> ok
[15:33] <valthyx> Xaiphan, cleaning is just temporary, you might really want a bigger space for future use
[15:33] <Xaiphan> Yeah but after updates i don't see how it had used 4GBs, i'll try it though
[15:33] <spo0kz> LABcrab, yes i have a friend with the exact same problem
[15:33] <LAcan> i am trying to cat a bunch of textfiles some of which have accents, but the ouput is always "?" for non-english characters... how can i fix it? Do I need to update my locale and will this change my keyboard layout or anything?
[15:33] <Conanbatt> pero que goma
[15:34] <LABcrab> LAcan: get a dog instead.
[15:34] <Xaiphan> I'm really new to the Linux interface though, what might i be able to use to see my partition on the USB drive?
[15:34] <LABcrab> !es > Conanbatt
[15:34] <invasorzim> edbian: same problem still (iwlist scan give me No scan results)
[15:34] <edbian> invasorzim: what modules are listed now?  (perhaps there is some other module we need to modprobe) I think a restart will know better than I
[15:34] <invasorzim> ok let me restart
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: possibly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600195
[15:35] <edbian> InvalidHandle: sure
[15:36] <schnuffle> LABcrab: the only thing I think will work is Plop bootmanager. HAve you tired it. was the floppy maybe corrupt?
[15:36] <Hoyt> LAcan: perhaps font problem / $LANG variable problem (e.g set to C instead of en_US , i met that once , which caused everything non-unicode in xfce4-terminal diaplayed as a '?')
[15:36] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Oh let,s get another floppy.
[15:36] <_UsUrPeR_> can someone point me towards docs on changing the default session manager in 11.04 natty plz?
[15:36] <spo0kz> LABcrab, Floppy was not the response i was hoping for hehe
[15:37] <IdleOne> !classic | _UsUrPeR_
[15:37] <Hoyt> i think he means 'gdm'
[15:37] <LAcan> Hoyt, yes I updated my locale to en_US.ISO-8859-1 and now every accent comes after the letter, ie (e'viter)
[15:37] <_UsUrPeR_> IdleOne: This is on a multi-user LTSP environment. What changes what "default" is set to? is there a file?
[15:37] <albo> @ActionParsnip: i didn't paste the whole log.  it goes through a resolution search.  http://pastebin.com/nLpnR01D
[15:37] <Xaiphan> I might just have to do a complete re-install, i am getting all kinds of error's, even when i tried to install pidgin, but it still works for some reason, (this will be the 4th time trying to rectify this)
[15:38] <Galvatron> Xaiphan: 4GB is not enough for the system and home folder. Ubuntu itself + software can take over 3GB, not counting the cache for downloaded packages. To get rid of those packages, you can use Ubuntu Tweak. You shoul also remove the unused kernels. As for OS + /home you should use the entire 8GB space, to have some reservoir for caching packages etc.
[15:38] <Xaiphan> apt-get clean did nothing by the way
[15:38] <IdleOne> _UsUrPeR_: you got me. sorry I have no clue
[15:38] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, well thanks
[15:39] <Xaiphan> Galvatron - i used a utility that did the OS install/partition automaticlly
[15:39] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Floppies are awesome!  Another I/O error!  Yay!
[15:39] <LABcrab> schnuffle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[15:39] <schnuffle> LABcrab: try formating the flopyy before and run a check then
[15:40] <LABcrab> schnuffle: How?
[15:40] <Xaiphan> This is what i used http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[15:40] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sudo mkfs.vat /dev/fd0
[15:40] <schnuffle> oops
[15:40] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0
[15:40] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Why?
[15:40] <Xaiphan> as you see there it limits you to 4089MB as a Persistent file size
[15:41] <schnuffle> LABcrab: because sometimes by reformatting old floppies I was able to use them
[15:41] <schnuffle> again
[15:41] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Who invented floppies?
[15:41] <jianfei> soft cocks
[15:42] <valthyx> Xaiphan, do you mean during installation?
[15:42] <schnuffle> LABcrab: somebody that wanted to make sure you loose all your data :)
[15:42] <LABcrab> Unable to get diskette geometry.  schnuffle
[15:42] <Xaiphan> Valthyx yea, when installing it to the USB stick, am i on the same page as you?
[15:43] <schnuffle> LABcrab:  sudo mformat -f 1440 A: you need the mtools installed
[15:43] <schnuffle> LABcrab: or is it even 5.25"
[15:43] <jianfei> do zip disks still exist?
[15:43] <valthyx> Xaiphan, i misunderstood you, i thought you were making it a liveusb
[15:43] <debi_lector> and jazz jianfei
[15:43] <jianfei> yeh
[15:44] <jianfei> rofl
[15:44] <spo0kz> LABcrab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[15:44] <jianfei> are they still around sinc usb keys?
[15:44] <Xaiphan> valthyx Oh sorry, i thought "live" was anything not on a HDD
[15:44] <oCean> jianfei: this channel is for ubuntu specific support
[15:44] <jianfei> oCean, thanks for the heads up
[15:45] <invasorzim> edbian: so, it worked after 1st reboot... rebooted again to make sure, after a disk check on boot the system hung, so hard resetted it... and wireless isnt working again (it usually occasionally works for no apparent reason)
[15:45] <Hoyt> LAcan: are you talking about a french word , namely éviter ? might be related to fonts or document encodings , checkout my app for solving this: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=129085 , it may help you
[15:45] <invasorzim> edbian: most of the time it doesnt
[15:45] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, persistent file size for storing changes sounds confusing, more like reserved space as separate partition?
[15:46] <edbian> invasorzim: What modules are listed in the output of sudo lscpi -k   (sometimes if there is more than one it will randomly choose one at boot time)
[15:46] <invasorzim> edbian: atl1c...
[15:46] <invasorzim> wait
[15:46] <invasorzim> read the wrong one
[15:46] <edbian> invasorzim: I don't know what that module is...
[15:46] <invasorzim> sorry
[15:46] <edbian> invasorzim: ha :)
[15:46] <invasorzim> edbian: wl, brcm80211
[15:47] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, as this is optional i guess it's just that, you have 8gig and the option says keep 4g for something else?
[15:47] <edbian> invasorzim: Is that all that's listed in the modules listed?  (what driver is listed?)
[15:47] <debi_lector> edbian its hard to be a system administrator
[15:47] <edbian> debi_lector: ha :)
[15:47] <Polah> Good afternoon
[15:47] <invasorzim> edbian: driver: wl
[15:47] <Xaiphan> I'm looking at my Disk Usage Analyzer and here is what i see "Total filesystem capacity 100% (8.1GB) || Total filesystem usage 65.8% (5.3GB) - Yes the "Persistent file size" from my limited understanding is space reserved for it to save changes and programs as if it were installed, but it is still technically a Live boot, it just saves changes.
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: yes thats wll
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: all
[15:48] <c0mrade_> .
[15:48] <edbian> invasorzim: so right now wl is being used (supposedly) wifi isn't working right now?
[15:48] <invasorzim> no it isnt
[15:48] <c0mrade_> Hello everyone.
[15:48] <edbian> invasorzim: try to modprobe the other one in and see if that switches them and if it fixes it
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: iwlist scan outputs no scan results
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: sometimes it lists invalid argument
[15:49] <c0mrade_> I got some fresh stuff.
[15:49] <invasorzim> edbian: modprobe the other one, but first rmmod wl?
[15:49] <edbian> invasorzim: if it says invalid argument you probably made a typo
[15:49] <edbian> invasorzim: you don't have to rmmod wl (it wouldn't hurt anything)  I use modprobe -r    not sure if there's a difference
[15:49] <invasorzim> edbian: no no, i'm just repeating the last command
[15:49] <invasorzim> edbian: eth1      Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument
[15:49] <edbian> invasorzim: is eth1 your wifi or do you have a wlan0 ?
[15:50] <invasorzim> edbian: eth1 is my wifi, no wlan0
[15:50] <ubuntu_> witam
[15:50] <edbian> invasorzim: weird, modprobe in bcrm80211
[15:50] <c0mrade_> Are you trying to hack some Wireless WiFi Access Points around you? That's illegal. Cracking WEP/WPA keys with BackTrack...
[15:50] <invasorzim> edbian: well rmmoded and modprobed brcm80211
[15:51] <edbian> invasorzim: k...
[15:51] <invasorzim> edbian: now its wlan0 instead, but still same issue
[15:51] <edbian> invasorzim: no scan results?
[15:51] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, hmm so you have enough space there? what does df -h say?
[15:51] <invasorzim> edbian: yep
[15:51] <edbian> invasorzim: can you pastebin the output of dmesg  ?
[15:51] <invasorzim> edbian: ok
[15:51] <lynnx> l
[15:51] <LABcrab> spo0kz & schnuffle: Error 22: No such partition
[15:51] <Halabund> Hi!  I'm having several problems with high CPU usage (compared to Windows).  The first problem is that CPU usage is always > 0, and battery life is low.  It's between 10-20% now as I'm typing here.  How can I diagnose the problem?  gnome-system-monitor itself uses ridiculously much cpu time
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: After then, while I read it, I suggest you reboot and reboot until wifi is up.  Then look at the output of lspci -k to get a clue as to what driver we want and so-on
[15:52] <invasorzim> edbian: whats that easy command to autopastebin?
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: pastebinit    ?
[15:52] <invasorzim> yes hehe
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: I don't use it
[15:52] <Polah> Halabund: Use top, it'll show you CPU/memory usage for running processes
[15:52] <SIFTU> Halabund: try htop
[15:52] <invasorzim> edbian: hmmm
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: :)
[15:52] <c0mrade_> Is there life after death?
[15:52] <invasorzim> edbian: oh dmesg is giving cool stuff
[15:53] <Xaiphan> dc5ala - it breaks it down further, /dev/loop0 size is 665M, and 100%, i have alto of info here if you wanted soemthing specific
[15:53] <invasorzim> edbian: [  617.966715] wl0: fifo 0: descriptor error
[15:53] <lynnx> sdf
[15:53] <invasorzim> edbian: [  617.966719] wl0: fatal error, reinitializing
[15:53] <oCean> c0mrade_: please stay on topic
[15:53] <spo0kz> LABcrab, did you catch that link ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[15:53] <edbian> invasorzim: hahah, like a robot.  fatal error.  Can I see the entire dmesg for context?  paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Yeah.
[15:54] <c0mrade_> Okay.
[15:54] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, you can put that in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <invasorzim> edbian: ok... the dmesg u'll see has me changing from wl to brcm80211 ok? just a reminder
[15:54] <c0mrade_> How to turn on a pc?
[15:54] <spo0kz> LABcrab, cool, looks like it's gonna help my end
[15:54] <edbian> invasorzim: that is, dmesg has been after all these modprobes   ?   (that's what I want)
[15:54] <edbian> c0mrade_: press the power button
[15:55] <c0mrade_> I always go to internet cafes, but I never had an idea of how to power on the PC.
[15:55] <spo0kz> LABcrab, I mean i havn't tried but the information provided looks plentiful
[15:55] <oCean> c0mrade_: please stop the silly questions
[15:55] <invasorzim> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673211/
[15:55] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: what remount command?  it says it can't be found....
[15:55] <c0mrade_> oCean I am trying to get some help.
[15:55] <Xaiphan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673212/http://paste.ubuntu.com/673212/
[15:55] <Xaiphan> like that?
[15:55] <edbian> invasorzim: reading...
[15:56] <invasorzim> edbian: rebooting until it works
[15:56] <edbian> invasorzim: how many times did you modprobe wl ?
[15:56] <MaximB> Hello
[15:56] <invasorzim> edbian: wl? none
[15:56] <c0mrade_> I won't ask any silly questions any more.
[15:56] <debi_lector> its better to check
[15:56] <edbian> invasorzim: I see...
[15:56] <genii-around> RA_drc: eg: something like  mount -o remount,ro /home        would re-mount /home with option of read-only
[15:56] <albo> @ActionParsnip: Xorg.0.log seems to indicate that the intel driver is being loaded, but in ubuntu desktop, glxinfo gives the following: http://pastebin.com/v6NhWNzh .  OpenGL is via Mesa, and when I run glxgears, it takes about 50% of my CPU.  So - is the intel driver not working?  Shouldn't the 3D rendering be taken over by the GPU?
[15:56] <invasorzim> edbian: i did repeat inumerous times the iwlist scan
[15:56] <edbian> invasorzim: ok
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: oh no but dmesg keeps getting bigger with the same errors
[15:57] <Halabund> Polah, SIFTU, is there any tool that can show which program used the most cpu in an extended period of time (say, over a minute)?  It's always a different process that jumps to the top, but usually it's compiz, Xorg or pulseaudio (I'm not listening to music, there's no sound!)
[15:57] <edbian> invasorzim: hahahah
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: so its not me after all
[15:57] <Xaiphan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673212 Sorry it double pasted
[15:57] <edbian> invasorzim: ok
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: ok i'll try rebooting until it works
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: maybe it'll take a while
[15:57] <spo0kz> Halabund: man top
[15:57] <c0mrade_> What is the algorithm used in Ubuntu to encrypt user passwords?
[15:58] <Xeli> Hey Im trying to install natty on my computer but it keeps failing with the error: Error migrating of documents and settings failed. Does anyone know what might ve the cause?
[15:58] <debi_lector> ubuntu dont have diagnosis tools
[15:58] <SIFTU> Halabund: yeah you can set a delay
[15:58] <MaximB> I have removed Pulsaudio (long time ago), and I still get sound, but when I click on "system>pref>sounds I get Waiting for sound system to respond" , how can I fix it without installing the buggy pulse audio ?
[15:58] <edbian> invasorzim: at one point dmesg calls eth1 Broadcom BCM4727  have you noticed this?
[15:59] <SIFTU> Halabund: something like "htop -d 600"
[15:59] <duckxx> anyone know of a ubuntu terminal where i can just click on a file path and just goes right there?
[15:59] <RA_drc> genii-around: what about mounting an external drive with the exec option instead of the "noexec" mount option?
[15:59] <afeijo> damn, I cant fix my screens...
[15:59] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, so i guess that program you used just reserved 4GB on the stick, have a look at the partitions there
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-freebsd-remount-partition/
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> duckxx: there is a nautilus script to open terminal in current directory
[16:00] <Xaiphan> dc5ala Is that not what i want? i notice it's using 80%, and i did select for it to use the maximum partition space
[16:00] <Halabund> SITFU, but does that give values for the whole period between updates, or values valid only for the moment of update?
[16:00] <Halabund> SIFTU, but does that give values for the whole period between updates, or values valid only for the moment of update?
[16:00] <c0mrade_> Is there a built-in remote desktop program in Ubuntu?
[16:01] <Polah> c0mrade_, rdesktop
[16:01] <SIFTU> Halabund: I believe the average for the sample period
[16:01] <debi_lector> this is not my problem siftu
[16:01] <c0mrade_> You have access through a shell or it looks like the windows remote application?
[16:02] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, at the moment it looks like it's just unused space, have a look at it with gparted or fdisk/cfdisk
[16:02] <LABcrab> i KEEP getting No such partition errors!  Why is it so difficult!
[16:03] <LABcrab> i can't boot the ISO!
[16:03] <cpglsn> hi all
[16:03] <Tixus> hi. I need help. I have an old program, I don't have the source code and I can't find a library. I need the library liblowlevel_tray, but I can't find it in packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.com. Any idea? Btw, idk the real name of the package.
[16:04] <debi_lector> home isos are more unstables than comercial
[16:04] <Jagajugue> Are your Natty sometimes getting stuck when it changes to screensaver?
[16:04] <Jagajugue> Which one do you think it`s more stable, Natty or Maverick?
[16:04] <Xaiphan> dc5ala, it does not show up in Gparted
[16:04] <cpglsn> i'm trying to use kickstart but, as i can understand, the support for this package (help, tutorial, and so on) is very old ... can you suggest me one way to make ubuntu installation automatic ?
[16:04] <Xaiphan> i'm wrong, one moment
[16:05] <LABcrab> debi_lector: It's that the computer won,t boot from floppy, USB or CD.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Jagajugue: maverick, due to age imho
[16:06] <Jagajugue> Thanks ActionParsnip, that`s what thhe
[16:06] <Jagajugue> answer i was in mind
[16:06] <Jagajugue> =P
[16:06] <Xaiphan> dc5ala, ok it says Size: 7.47GiB | Used 4.70GiB (63%) | Unused 2.77 GiB (37%) - that is a tone of usage for only having installed recommended updates.
[16:06] <debi_lector> maybe its bloqued LABcrab
[16:06] <jccastiyo> .
[16:07] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sure even not from CDROM? HAve you really checked all the BIOS settings?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Jagajugue: maverick support dies before natty does and natty will get better with time
[16:08] <c0mrade_> How to count the number of words that start with the lette W and contain e in a text file?
[16:08] <Xaiphan> dc5ala, Is there a more proper way to install Ubuntu 11.04 to a USB and make it act as a HDD? That utility is causing mroe problems than anything, this is just disk usage, i haven't even started about the error's i keep recieveing
[16:09] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, Ubuntu also has it's own tool similar to the one you used, you may want to reduce the reserved space for storing changes then, 4G for system is not that much
[16:10] <popey> c0mrade_:  grep -i ^W foo.txt | grep -ic e$
[16:10] <mabi> hi folks
[16:10] <Jagajugue> I hope, because i really like the interface and it`s convenience
[16:10] <Jagajugue> really cool!
[16:11] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Yeah.
[16:11] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, with that size you need to clean up often, remove old kernels etc. or remove software you won't use
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> c0mrade_: is the input file a list of words, or is it written in sentences
[16:11] <penlat> I am having trouble writing to a smbd share with 777 permissions. Is this the same as using the samba package
[16:12] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: he is muted
[16:12] <schnuffle> c0mrade_: awk '/W[^ ]+e[^ ]+/ {print "$1"}' | wc -l
[16:12] <spo0kz> LABcrab, try this http://pastebin.com/ainuV1vU considering you have no cd drive you will have to mount the iso virtually, maybe you'll have to change a few options, but its definitely viable
[16:12] <Xaiphan> dc5ala is it possible for me to 1:1 with you? I would feel much better about sharing my uses and what i wish to occomplish using linux 1:1
[16:12] <h00k> !pm
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i see
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: can I pm please dude ?
[16:13] <rumpe1> c0mrade_, tryp "egrep -o 'W[:alpha:]*e[:alpha:]*'  | wc -l
[16:13] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: you don't need my permission
[16:13] <LABcrab> The computer's being stupid since i deleted the sawp!
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i always ask, its polite
[16:13] <spo0kz> LABcrab,  just recreate it with Gparted, been there done that Lol
[16:14] <Xaiphan> When i'm already singling out tot alk to someone i don't know why it would be rude, and my personal information will not help other people's problem
[16:14] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Startx saves the sad!
[16:14] <schnuffle> LABcrab: Another idea: what is working is bootstrapping ubuntu into a not used partition
[16:14] <LABcrab> Why did we ban <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:15] <debi_lector> doritodan until i see your face you dont exist
[16:15] <LABcrab> schnuffle: What's that?  It sounds like a seatbelt strap!
[16:15] <c0mrade_> .
[16:15] <c0mrade_> Why was I muted?
[16:15] <c0mrade_> Give me a good reason.
[16:16] <IdleOne> c0mrade_: because I felt you were being disruptive and asking silly non-ubuntu related questions.
[16:16] <IdleOne> Please follow the guidelines
[16:16] <LABcrab> schnuffle: What is a bootstrap and how do you set it up?
[16:16] <afeijo> I was resizing a ntfs partition, it failed and now it say that the volume size is bigger than the device size. It wont mount... can this be fixed?
[16:16] <genii-around> RA_drc: Any options you want to give to the mount command you put in comma-separated list like: -o option1,option2,option3,option4
[16:17]  * genii-around goes back to eating lunch
[16:17] <mabi> i've got a problem after a recent kernel update. after rebooting, i can't access my luks-encrypted root partition anymore. entering the (correct one, i copied it) password only prompts me to repeat.
[16:17] <mabi> last i saw was dpkg failing. i assume it was because my (extra) /boot partition was full.
[16:17] <schnuffle> LABcrab: you create a runable new installation into an empty partition and then you boot from it. In that way you have your old system as backup and the new system as well selectable through grub. Once you don't the old install you can delete it
[16:17] <debi_lector> dkpg are not debian
[16:18] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Where are the instructions, please?  Sounds like a good idea.
[16:18] <Hax> yo
[16:19] <LABcrab> !bootstrap
[16:19] <c0mrade_> How to change the directory in the shell window?
[16:19] <Polah> LABcrab: Just install on another partition as you would normally
[16:19] <c0mrade_> What is the command for it?
[16:19] <Polah> c0mrade_: cd
[16:21] <LABcrab> Polah: Yeah, but i can only boot the hard drive.  How do i install Ubuntu?
[16:22] <Polah> LABcrab: You can't boot from USB or CD?
[16:22] <LABcrab> Polah: No.
[16:22] <schnuffle> LABcrab: You need at least one free partition. NOw it depends on choices. You can write the install iso to that image or a base system I just looking for some instructions. How many free partitions do you have?
[16:22] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Not really a whole lot.
[16:23] <Polah> LABcrab: Why doesn't it boot? Have you tried manually selecting CD/USB from your boot list?
[16:23] <Ramses> hi
[16:23] <LABcrab> schnuffle: One 455MB partition.  Polah, yeah, doesn,t work.
[16:23] <Goku283> hi
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> c0mrade_: same as in windows
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> c0mrade_: cd foldername
[16:24] <Polah> LABcrab: And the same with CDs? Hmm, how old is your motherboard?
[16:24] <LABcrab> Polah: Compaq Presariio 5000 series.
[16:24] <schnuffle> LABcrab: for bootstrapping natty it should be something like: bash -x /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 natty /mnt/<your free partition  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[16:25] <Polah> LABcrab: Which one?
[16:25] <ObrienDave> LABcrab: I had same problem trying to install to USB hard drive. finally gave up and installed to main HD
[16:27] <LABcrab> i gotta go.  ttyl!
[16:29] <SMJ> Kontact is a good organization tool, but I need a cross-platform alternative, maybe web-based, maybe collaborative too. Any recommendations?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> SMJ: something that syncs to google in some way?
[16:30] <SMJ> maybe
[16:30] <schnuffle> SMJ: I'm running citadel, sogo, scalix and would recommend sogo or citadel. Citadels web frontend is old fashioend sogos clean and nice with some ajax
[16:30] <RA_drc> hello, i'm trying to mount a hard drive via the command line in ubuntu, how do i find the name of my hard drive?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> SMJ: http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2009/10/30/syncing-evolution-contacts-to-ubuntu-one/
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: you mount partitions dude
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> !mount | RA_drc
[16:31] <SMJ> okay, I'll check these
[16:33] <ubuntu_stuff> ubuntu have  a good idea protecting the kernel
[16:33] <ObrienDave> !mount
[16:33] <schnuffle> SMJ: I mention both because they are open source. alternatives are kolab2 ( the original KDE PIM server, GPL), zafara, shandler, ogo ( python implementation of openegroupware)
[16:33] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: right, but when i looked at ls /dev/ i didn't know which sdX device to use
[16:33] <ObrienDave> !list
[16:34] <Jagajugue> RA_drc: i guess you can see the devices using ls /dev/sd* , but i dont know how to discover wich one is the one you`d like to mount
[16:34] <invasorzim> edbian: hello, sorry i went to eat... still after the first reboot wifi is working (i'm using it now here). same modules and driver on lspci -k
[16:35] <Jagajugue> RA_drc: but if you know which one is use: sudo moun /dev/sda3 /mnt/hard
[16:35] <ubuntu_stuff> its opensource but i must pay >O
[16:35] <edbian> invasorzim: pastebin dmesg again for me?
[16:35] <Jagajugue> RA_drc: but if you know which one is use: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/hard
[16:35] <Jagajugue> for example
[16:36] <RA_drc> Jagajugue: right, but my trouble right now is i don't know which sd* to use for that command
[16:36] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there a way to convert 100 .gif files to .jpg format in the Terminal? I do no want to convert them one by one
[16:36] <invasorzim> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673233/
[16:36] <ObrienDave> !alis
[16:37] <ubuntu_stuff> for beginning users cant use sudo jagajugue
[16:37] <schnuffle> RA_drc: sudo fdisk -l will list the partitions and its file system type as orientation
[16:37] <Jagajugue> ubuntu_stuff: sorry
[16:38] <hazamonzo> hey folks. dbus-daemon keeps eating 25% cpu (one core) what could be happening here? (k)ubuntu 11.04 x64
[16:38] <rumpe1> Osmodivs, sure... look for "convert", imagemagick and maybe "find"
[16:38] <edbian> invasorzim: reading...
[16:38] <Jagajugue> ubuntu_stuff: what about he use, "sudo fdisk -l" , it may help.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: use mogrify
[16:39] <edbian> invasorzim: have you noticed that line 814 calls your device eth1 bcm4727  ?
[16:39] <Jagajugue> ubuntu_stuff: just to know the type
[16:39] <ubuntu_stuff> posibly he lost his disk
[16:40] <invasorzim> edbian: that is weird huh
[16:40] <starZ> hi all do you now how I can change my grub location from a disk to another ??
[16:40] <edbian> invasorzim: yes,
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: mogrify -type jpg *.gif
[16:40] <edbian> invasorzim: hang on, researching
[16:40] <invasorzim> edbian: the old pastebin does the same
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> starZ: man  grub-install
[16:40] <ubuntu_stuff> invasorzim i dont know what he want to do
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/mogrify.1.html
[16:41] <invasorzim> ubuntu_stuff: huh?
[16:41] <ubuntu_stuff> ha
[16:41] <starZ> ActionParsnip: sure!! thx!! I should think about reading the manual more offen.. lol
[16:41] <RA_drc> schnuffle: excellent, thanks!
[16:41] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[16:41] <edbian> invasorzim: I know
[16:42] <edbian> invasorzim: There is also this I found: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117689
[16:42] <ubuntu_stuff> maybe he wat to format to install
[16:42] <edbian> invasorzim: I think that the driver will randomly stop working eventually (with those errors in dmesg).  Sometimes it happens immediately when you boot.  Sometimes it never happens.
[16:42] <minhthong> where is xubuntu keyboart shorcuts?
[16:43] <invasorzim> edbian: oh great, so in essence i'll have to wait for a fix?
[16:43] <edbian> invasorzim: I suggest reporting a bug against the driver.  Use report bug and reference the package (bcmwl-kernel-source)
[16:43] <minhthong> where is xubuntu keyboart shorcuts?
[16:43] <edbian> invasorzim: I THINK so.
[16:43] <schnuffle> minhthong: http://www.keyxl.com/aaac887/409/Xfce-Window-Manager-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
[16:44] <c0mrade_> .
[16:44] <Jagajugue> hey, do you people know if ubuntu have some channel for embedded ubuntu?
[16:44] <c0mrade_> No, we don't.
[16:44] <invasorzim> edbian: hmmm
[16:44] <invasorzim> edbian: i remember there was another nifty command too
[16:45] <edbian> invasorzim: ?
[16:45] <invasorzim> edbian: like bug bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:45] <c0mrade_> What do you mean by embedded-ubuntu?
[16:45] <ubuntu_stuff> there are lots of commands
[16:45] <genii-around> Jagajugue: There is #embedded
[16:45] <NoobHaxor> hey
[16:45] <edbian> invasorzim: reportbug
[16:46] <edbian> invasorzim: I've never used it CLI.  I think it's a gui thing
[16:46] <c0mrade_> Is there a channel for #ubuntu-haters?
[16:46] <genii-around> Sorry two #
[16:46] <Polah> c0mrade_: Yeah, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:46] <invasorzim> edbian: 2 stuff that i dont like here... 1st, no wifi. 2nd, no brightness control unless u install a ppa kernel by a user... nothing against him but i dont like using ppa kernel, and it doesnt fully corrects the brightness issue, just a workaround. my eyes burn from this full bright screen
[16:46] <Jagajugue> genii-around: cool!
[16:46] <Jagajugue> is this one for all types of embedded devices?
[16:46] <oCean> c0mrade_: drop the offtopic remarks please
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> invasorzim: does the oneiric release work ok, could try liveCD to test
[16:47] <c0mrade_> There are some strict laws here.
[16:47] <edbian> invasorzim: yeah, I can't help with the brightness issue.  Sorry to hear it!  What laptop is this?
[16:47] <invasorzim> ActionParsnip: hmmmmm good advice, i will try it
[16:47] <oCean> !guidelines > c0mrade_
[16:47]  * SaK I am now away - Reason for leaving: I have been idle for 1 minutes, and am now away - jam away mer - I am leaving at 6:47:37-PM (jam larg)
[16:47] <oCean> SaK: please disable that
[16:47] <invasorzim> edbian: Dell Inspiron N4010, fresh and not so new but recent, very good... too bad it does these annoyances
[16:47] <SaK> what_
[16:48] <oCean> SaK: your away message
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> 17:47  * SaK I am now away - Reason for leaving: I have been idle for 1 minutes, and am now away - jam away mer - I am leaving at 6:47:37-PM (jam larg)
[16:48] <edbian> invasorzim: Yes, sorry! :(
[16:48] <SaK> oh sorry
[16:48] <c0mrade_> Do you think I have time to read the guidlines? I am already bored here.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> SaK: ^ that nonsense, nobody cares
[16:48] <genii-around> Jagajugue: No idea, I found it listed at: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=embedded
[16:48] <invasorzim> edbian: thanks anyway for the helping time
[16:48] <Pici> invasorzim: ubuntu-bug packagename
[16:48] <SaK> just stupidt script
[16:48] <edbian> invasorzim: sure
[16:48] <Pici> invasorzim: sorry, was scrolled up, I'm not sure if that is still relevant.
[16:48] <Jagajugue> genii-around: yep, there is no one there
[16:48] <Jagajugue> XD
[16:48] <invasorzim> edbian: oh it was 'ubuntu-bug'
[16:49] <Jagajugue> genii-around: thanks anyway!
[16:49] <invasorzim> Pici: thanks just found out he
[16:49] <edbian> invasorzim: ah-ha!
[16:49] <genii-around> Jagajugue: You may want to try #edev
[16:49] <RA_drc> hi, i'm trying to mount my hard drive using "sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1/" but i'm getting an error: "mount: can't find /dev/sdb1/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"   what am i doing wrong?
[16:50] <schnuffle> invasorzim: check https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/linux-kamal-mjgbacklight
[16:50] <Jagajugue> genii-around: wow, nice one!
[16:51] <Jagajugue> genii-around: thanks genii
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: if you run:  mount     do you see sdb1 ?
[16:51] <c0mrade_> WARNING! We are maintaining our server now. We appologize for the inconvenience. We ask all the users in this channel to leave for 3 hours.
[16:51] <penster> lol
[16:51] <genii-around> Jagajugue: You're welcome
[16:52] <h00k> removed c0mrade_
[16:53] <ObrienDave> h00k: THANX!
[16:53] <schnuffle> RA_drc: should be: sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1  /mnt
[16:54] <schnuffle> RA_drc: and maybe you'll need to tell the filesystem type with -t vfat|etx2|....
[16:55] <tr0xan> is LOL working in ubuntu???
[16:57] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: (like)
[16:57] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: (like)
[16:57] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: XD
[16:57] <tr0xan> ?
[16:57] <zambaboo> running dpkg-rebuildpackage inside the kernel package. one particular module that i need is listed in .config but does not get built. how do i make sure it gets built?
[16:59] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: It`s really LOL working in ubuntu!
[17:00] <Jagajugue> later dudes, thanks for the help!
[17:01] <tr0xan> is League of Legends  working in ubuntu???
[17:03] <alperkanat> hey there.. can someone please help me about how i can disable apache2 from auto starting for ubuntu 10.04 lts? (the proper way like /etc/init etc..?)
[17:03] <Pici> tr0xan: Is that a Windows application?
[17:03] <tr0xan> yes
[17:03] <Pici> tr0xan: Then check Wine's appdb
[17:03] <Pici> !appdb | tr0xan
[17:03] <alperkanat> update-rc.d apache2 remove also doesn't do
[17:04] <alperkanat> anyone please? how can i completely prevent apache from starting automatically on boot?
[17:04] <Polah> alperkanat: DId you use sudo for that?
[17:05] <rumpe1> alperkanat, any error-message?
[17:05] <schnuffle> alperkanat: i think apache is handled by upstart so int is disbaled in the file /etc/init/apache2
[17:05] <alperkanat> i'm root already
[17:05] <alperkanat> schnuffle: there's no such file as /etc/init/apache2
[17:05] <alperkanat> i disabled mysql
[17:05] <alperkanat> but apache doesn't have that file
[17:05] <alperkanat> i need a proper way to disable it
[17:05] <rumpe1> alperkanat, check /etc/init.d/apache2
[17:06] <alperkanat> rumpe1: yes there's that fle
[17:06] <alperkanat> i can stop the daemon
[17:06] <alperkanat> but i don't want it to open at boot
[17:07] <Polah> alperkanat: Move it out of init.d then
[17:07] <rumpe1> alperkanat, any error message of "sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove" ?
[17:07] <alperkanat> that's not a proper way of doing it Polah
[17:08] <alperkanat> # update-rc.d apache2 -f remove
[17:08] <alperkanat> update-rc.d: warning: apache2 start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
[17:08] <alperkanat> update-rc.d: warning: apache2 stop runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (0 1 6)
[17:08] <alperkanat> usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> remove
[17:08] <alperkanat>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | SS KK]
[17:08] <alperkanat>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] .
[17:08] <alperkanat>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5]
[17:08] <alperkanat> 		-n: not really
[17:08] <alperkanat> 		-f: force
[17:08] <alperkanat> The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future.
[17:08] <rumpe1> where are the floodbots? o.O
[17:08] <Pici> alperkanat: done?
[17:08] <Pici> alperkanat: Don't paste here, use a pastebin if you need.
[17:09] <alperkanat> i'm pretty annoyed with this problem since there's no documentation about it..
[17:09] <rumpe1> alperkanat, these are just warnings and the order of you parameters are not according to the manual
[17:09] <alperkanat> there are lots of how to's to install it
[17:09] <rumpe1> alperkanat, man update-rc.d is pretty informative
[17:09] <imperfec1-> Anyone around?
[17:09] <rumpe1> alperkanat, with a bunch of examples at the bottom
[17:10] <imperfec1-> Anyone know how I can get rsyslog to write the remote IP address from recieved logs in the log line?
[17:10] <alperkanat> rumpe1: ubuntu afaik moved to upstart so they'll probably ditch update-rc.d command soon.. so there should be a ubuntu way of disabling apache like disabling mysqld
[17:10] <alperkanat> that's what i'm asking for
[17:10] <rumpe1> alperkanat, well... apache is still system v init
[17:12] <rumpe1> alperkanat, are you reading?
[17:12] <dc5ala> alperkanat, either you use update-rc.d or manually remove the symlinks to apaches init script in /etc/rc*.d/ :P
[17:12] <alperkanat> i restarted to server to see if it's already disabled or not
[17:12] <dmtarmey> hello does anyone know how i can sort a problem with not being able to play youtube videos
[17:13] <MN--> is there a xmbc channel?
[17:13] <MN--> *xbmc
[17:13] <Tackster> hi guys - im deciding on which linux to download and install. Will ubuntu 64-bit work on a mid 2006 mac pro?
[17:13] <rumpe1> dmtarmey, have you installed flashplugin-nonfree ?
[17:13] <uber-linux> ux
[17:14] <dmtarmey> rumpel ill just check which one iv installed
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MN--: #xbmc
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Tackster: is the CPU 64bit?
[17:14] <ObrienDave> Tackster: does it have a 64 bit operating system?
[17:15] <rumpe1> dmtarmey, or try chrome, which has flash builtin
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Tackster: telling us the year is moot, we need the cpu
[17:15] <Tackster> the CPU is 64 bit. however for technical reasons i don't understand while it will run a 64bit version of OS X it will not run 64bit windows
[17:15] <MN--> thanks
[17:16] <Tackster> something about the BIOS not being 64 bit or macs using UEFI
[17:16] <Tackster> or EFI
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Tackster: then it should run. If not then just use 32bit
[17:16] <Tackster> ok i'll give it a go
[17:16] <Tackster> thanks
[17:18] <intrader> Anyone, I am unable to reboot 10.10 goes to the terminal screen.
[17:19] <Bilz> i have an ubuntu problem. its doing some computer intensive stuff and i can't fuckin get past the locked screen because it wont let me input my password.
[17:19] <rumpe1> Bilz, have you tried strg-alt-f1 till f6?
[17:19] <Bilz> thats ubuntu 11.04. the keyboard seems to have a key jammed (though im relatively sure its not jammed)
[17:19] <Bilz> strg?
[17:19] <Bilz> and no i have not
[17:20] <rumpe1> Bilz, yes... usually you have besides xserver 6 consoles
[17:20] <dc5ala> intrader, have you changed/updated anything? Did it work earlier or is it a fresh installation?
[17:20] <rumpe1> Bilz, you can login there and stop process, etc.
[17:21] <spo0kz> Does ubuntuone allow the downloading of files assuming my sync pc is tunred off ?
[17:21] <ASKidwai> anybody know how to find out what chmod settings are on a particular file?
[17:21] <Bilz> rumpe1, sorry, i dont want to stop the process. ill lose all the work done. thats the problem
[17:21] <intrader> dc5ala: , yes - on recommendation I unistalled CUPS and other stuff that synaptic labeled as cups related. The desktop disappeared.
[17:21] <Bilz> and i can't log in to check the status and whether its done
[17:21] <adubz> how can i verify that crontab is working
[17:22] <rumpe1> Bilz, you could also stop the process of the screensave, which is locking your screen
[17:22] <adubz> i just edited and saved im forgetting if i have to apply or anything
[17:22] <Bilz> that might be an idea
[17:22] <adubz> im thinking just saving saves the changes
[17:22] <Bilz> but the keyboard would still be jammed, no?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> adubz: once you edit the file, it gets sorted straight away
[17:23] <rumpe1> Bilz, if you can't reach the consoles, because your keyboard is locked, you can still login via ssh from another pc, if you have installed openssh-server
[17:23] <mariandi> helll
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Pici: can I PM please?
[17:23] <Pici> ActionParsnip: sure
[17:23] <rumpe1> Bilz, otherwise i'm afraid you have to reboot
[17:24] <dc5ala> intrader, log in your terminal and do a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[17:24] <kanupatar> hello all
[17:24] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[17:24] <kanupatar> and installed thunderbird
[17:24] <kanupatar> my question is how can install the font calibri in ubuntu?
[17:25] <iDirk> kanupatar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[17:25] <kanupatar> so that i can keepmy thunderbird editor is same as windows
[17:25] <Stu2> yegeh
[17:25] <Bilz> rumpe1, fixed. i unplugged the keyboard, it carried on with the keys, i jammed the keyboard back in, it carried in with the locked key, i hit a single letter and it stopped
[17:26] <kanupatar> iDirk: calibri is spported?
[17:26] <intrader> dc5ala: , I need to bring the laptop here - that simple? Would I need to be connected, or can the 10.10 disk work
[17:26] <Bilz> i was worried because last time i pulled the mouse out of my computer when it was running everything got fried
[17:26] <iDirk> kanupatar: http://embraceubuntu.com/2007/09/16/installing-vista-fonts-in-ubuntu/
[17:27] <dc5ala> intrader, you can just login the console and try it, maybe the packages you need are still in the package cache, if not it will require network connection
[17:27] <kanupatar> iDirk: thanks
[17:27] <iDirk> kanupatar: No problem. Good luck. :)
[17:28] <dc5ala> intrader, and better keep little cups, he gets sad and removes ubuntu-desktop too :)
[17:28] <kanupatar> iDirk: ohh buddy , on more doubt, how can i install skype and gtalk in uuntu?
[17:29] <iDirk> kanupatar: I am not sure about Gtalk, but you can install Skype from the Ubuntu Software Center.
[17:29] <kanupatar> iDirk: no ..i am installing skype through apt-get
[17:29] <iDirk> kanupatar: You don't have 11.04?
[17:29] <kanupatar> iDirk: i am having 11.04
[17:30] <uber-linux> how do i get the server to change in ubuntu xchat
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> uber-linux: /server irc.server.name
[17:30] <intrader> dc5ala: , I have tried the install - tells me that it was unable to fetch some of the archives
[17:30] <uber-linux> it keeps dragging me here
[17:30] <iDirk> kanupatar: It's easier to download with the Software Center :).
[17:30] <kanupatar> iDirk: also how can i install yahoo messenger in ubuntu 11.04?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> uber-linux: which client?
[17:31] <glebihan> uber-linux, you can also use the menu XChat->Network list
[17:31] <iDirk> kanupatar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Skype
[17:31] <uber-linux> xchat
[17:31] <uber-linux> no server list comes up buy freenode #ubuntu
[17:32] <dc5ala> intrader, maybe try a "sudo apt-get update" first to fetch package informations
[17:32] <ultraLit> echo hello!
[17:32] <kanupatar> iDirk: how yahoo?
[17:32] <uber-linux> k, thx
[17:32] <akashm1990> Ubuntu 11.04: sometimes when I mute the audio, the mute icon is grey, and sometimes its blue.. any idea why?
[17:32] <iDirk> kanupatar: You have Chrome?
[17:33] <kanupatar> iDirk: no
[17:33] <ultraLit> is this general ubuntu chat?
[17:33] <intrader> dc5ala: , I tried the update - still a bunch fail to load. I have place the CD for 10.10 in tray
[17:33] <Polah> ultraLit, Support
[17:33] <ultraLit> thanks
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> akashm1990: maybe when there is sound running but sound is muted
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> ultraLit: this is the official ubuntu support channel
[17:34] <iDirk> kanupatar: I don't use Yahoo Messenger. But I see you can download it with Google Web Store in Chrome.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: there is gyache
[17:35] <akashm1990> ActionParsnip, ah yes... thats it   nice touch
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> !gyache
[17:35] <Polah> ActionParsnip, akashm1990: I can get my icon to change blue if I mute and then start to play something
[17:35] <dc5ala> intrader, are you sure you have a working internet connection on that laptop?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> boom
[17:35] <glebihan> kanupatar, pidgin (and probably many other clients) can be used to connect to yahoo chat
[17:35] <jiltdil> How to password protect single usermode in ubuntu without using grub password?
[17:35] <Tru3fate> can anyone help . how can i run disc error check on ubuntu.
[17:35] <Cpudan80> Hey
[17:35] <kanupatar> iDirk: ActionParsnip : my friend is using yahoo meenger and so i need to use the same for video chat
[17:36] <Cpudan80> I am trying to login to an ubuntu 10.04 system -- but I dont know the user password (there is only one user) so I need to reset it ...
[17:36] <Cpudan80> I have physical access to the box -- so that's not a problem ...
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: yes, gyache will do it
[17:36] <Stu2> hello
[17:36] <jiltdil> Kanupatar: use empathy
[17:36] <Stu2> are you able to see this message?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[17:36] <Cpudan80> If anyone knows how to reset it I'd appreciate it
[17:36] <Stu2> can everyone see this message?
[17:36] <Calinou> yes
[17:36] <Cpudan80> Stu2: no - only you can
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: boot to root recovery console and reset it there
[17:36] <Stu2> good
[17:36] <intrader> dc5ala: , no it is being used by the laptop I am using to communicate with you - this laptop is running Windows Vista and I am unable to connect to the wifi on it. Can we try connecting the ubuntu to wife while on terminal?
[17:36] <iDirk> Tru3fate: fsck?
[17:37] <jiltdil> How to password protect single usermode in ubuntu without using grub password?
[17:37] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: Well yeah I tried that, I select "recovery mode" from the boot menu but I never get to a command prompt
[17:37] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:37] <Cpudan80> The screen eventualy just goes black
[17:37] <cristian_c> which program should I use to configure the multi-gesture touchpad?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: select root from the next screen, you should get another screen
[17:37] <Tru3fate> is that the command to run check error on disc and fix.?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | Tru3fate
[17:38] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: there is no next screen, it acts like it is booting up and then just ... stops
[17:38] <kanupatar> ActionParsnip: Codename:	natty
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[17:38] <Polah> Cpudan80: You could boot a LiveCD and edit /etc/passwd on the actual installation partition to change the hash of the user to one you know
[17:38] <knat> I am trying to set up openvpn on my ubuntu server, ufw is blocking the traffic that goes through it though, both of my clients can communicate with the server over the vpn, but they cannot talk to eachother unless I disable ufw, how can I fix this
[17:39] <Tru3fate> cool thanks didn't know it does it automatic. just wanted to check my box took a beating
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: you can always boot to liveCD then chroot
[17:39] <new001> if I want to exit a function, but I don't want anything to happen, is using a solitary 'return' appropriate?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> new001: which language?
[17:39] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: Ok I can try that
[17:39] <Polah> knat: ufw automatically closes ports unless something is listening on them. You'd need to configure the port used to be open
[17:39] <new001> ActionParsnip, doh, sorry, Python... thought I was in #Python
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> new001: not this time, it's #ubuntu
[17:40] <new001> ActionParsnip, aye, need to tab down... sorry about that
[17:40] <Al-Sindi> hi
[17:40] <glebihan> intrader, could you pastebin the output ?
[17:40] <nowfree> Hello
[17:40] <nowfree> Hello?
[17:40] <glebihan> hello nowfree
[17:40] <knat> Polah: I have opened up 1194, which is the port used by openvpn, and the clients can connect on that port, but traffic that is should be forwarded gets blocked
[17:40] <Al-Sindi> can any boddy help me to reset my boot option?? my ubuntu is not booting at all
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> new001: no harm done
[17:41] <intrader> glebihan, I don't have internet access on that laptop - what output are you referring to?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Al-Sindi: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[17:42] <seanz> #cars-sm
[17:42] <Al-Sindi> ActionParsnip: no I cant
[17:42] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Reinstall grub: man grub-install
[17:42] <Al-Sindi> I get error boot0: error
[17:42] <glebihan> intrader, I meant the output of the "apt-get update" command but if you don't have internet access, forget it
[17:42] <Al-Sindi> Polah from here ?? to reinstall
[17:42] <Taos> adding to path is this right?
[17:42] <Taos> export PATH="$PATH:/opt/idea/bin"
[17:43] <Polah> Al-Sindi: No in a terminal
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Al-Sindi: i'd boot to liveCD and you can fix from there
[17:43] <intrader> glebihan, a whole slew of
[17:43] <intrader> glebihan, a whole slew of failed to fetch ...
[17:43] <Al-Sindi> Okay Polah i'll try
[17:43] <Taos> Anyone?
[17:43] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Well, on the system you need to fix GRUB on. if you're not on it then boot a LiveCD/USB and do it
[17:44] <glebihan> intrader, well I guess that those errors are just telling you that remote repositories could not be fetch, which isn't suprising since you don't have an internet connection
[17:44] <Al-Sindi> Polah i get error No manual entry for grub-install
[17:44] <dc5ala> intrader, not sure if your cd is still in the package source list (/etc/apt/sources.list), you may try inserting the cd and then use sudo apt-cdrom add
[17:44] <Polah> Al-Sindi: What are you on just now?
[17:44] <glebihan> intrader, you could temporarily disable the official repositories and see how it goes
[17:44] <Al-Sindi> Im in live cd
[17:44] <Al-Sindi> by usb
[17:45] <Polah> Al-Sindi: try grub-install --help
[17:45] <dc5ala> intrader, im trying it here but can't find my cd at the moment, still searching :p
[17:45] <Al-Sindi> Polah I am using live usb of rescatux
[17:45] <intrader> dc5ala: , I will try the sudo apt-cdrom add
[17:45] <Al-Sindi> Polah still geting error
[17:45] <Al-Sindi> comand not found
[17:46] <Polah> Al-Sindi: don't know how to use that.
[17:46] <Al-Sindi> Okay. Polah do you know any thing about boot0: error
[17:46] <nickolai_> hey everyone! does anybody  deal with RTL8188CE wifi chip? or any realtek kind of new chips? i have random disconections....
[17:47] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Ask in #grub
[17:48] <Al-Sindi> then how to restore grub
[17:48] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, is it possible to connect the wifi to the ubuntu running the terminal? By the wayt the sudo apt-cdrom add did something with errors and finally settled back to the prompt where I reissued the 'sudo apt-get update' with same results.
[17:49] <Polah> Al-Sindi: I told you how to do it from an Ubuntu live session, ask in #grub for what you're using
[17:49] <Al-Sindi> Polah if I reinstall entire ubuntu it works, but i dont want to reinstall it once again.
[17:49] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Like I said, use grub-install from an Ubuntu live session...
[17:50] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, I could temporarily disconnect the ethernet and connect it to the ubuntu laptop and reissue the update
[17:50] <dc5ala> intrader, ye, neither did it work here =/
[17:50] <glebihan> intrader, it is possible but I'm really no expert at that... however you should still try disabling all repositories except cdrom and re-execute the update command
[17:50] <Al-Sindi> Okay Polah, I'll try
[17:50] <glebihan> intrader, that could a solution too
[17:50] <Al-Sindi> before that is there any lv
[17:50] <macfire> I am here to vent more than a necessarily help. First, if I try to install an OS, would not need much help, my video card does not work, this drug can not boot OS. I've tried everything, but unfortunately I can only install version 10.10, this would be the same as a having a great PC and use Windows 95. Actually the windows have their problems of security, not free, but he can use their latest
[17:50] <macfire> version, features the best of my pc without getting stressed. Two days ago I'm banging my head to install an OS, which is said friendly and safe, should really be safe, because the difficulty of installing it is huge, simply give up that OS, and if someone come to ask for information or not to keep Ubuntu installed, I will say with all words, do not use, no use this garbage
[17:51] <dc5ala> intrader, when you have internet it should be a lot easier :)
[17:51] <Al-Sindi> Polah do you know how to reset grub from rescatux ???
[17:51] <Polah> Al-Sindi: No. Ask in #grub
[17:51] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, I would have to disconnect the chat. I will try that - be back
[17:51] <Al-Sindi> what is ask in #grub
[17:51] <pielstik> where is martin borman ?
[17:51] <ObrienDave> macfire: and your point is???
[17:52] <NthDegree> macfire, actually with Windows one can't use the latest
[17:52] <NthDegree> macfire, Windows doesn't let people use their latest OS developments, they get the release which is stale by the time it's shipped for retail
[17:52] <Al-Sindi> Do u mean grub form!!??
[17:52] <Polah> mcfire: Ubuntu 10.10 is hardly out of date.
[17:52] <macfire> NthDegree three day for install a SO and dont works
[17:52] <Polah> Al-Sindi: I mean the #grub channel on freenode. /join #grub
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> macfire: 10.l0 is still fully supported, so is not out of date at all
[17:53] <macfire> Polah i know, but i buy a radeon hd 6850 and dont works ins nathy
[17:53] <Al-Sindi> Okay Polah thanx
[17:53] <Al-Sindi> bye
[17:53] <NthDegree> macfire, why not use the LTS version?  That's the one Canonical ships CDs/DVDs for
[17:53] <csarven> I've edited /etc/environment, how I initiate the changes without rebooting?
[17:53] <macfire> NthDegree because dont works system in radeon
[17:53] <NthDegree> macfire, tried booting with nomodeset?
[17:53] <rumpe1> csarven, exec bash
[17:54] <macfire> in boot, stay ins this message Stopping save kernel messages
[17:54] <NthDegree> macfire, try the Ubuntu LTS version and see if it works
[17:54] <csarven> rumpe1 I'm afraid that didn't help.
[17:54] <macfire> NthDegree sure, in install is corret after stop in that message
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> macfire: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:55] <macfire> esc in boot, after f6 nomodoset
[17:55] <macfire> after in grub, type E and after quiet splash nomodeset
[17:55] <NthDegree> yeah, it does sound like a bad download or bad burn of CD
[17:55] <macfire> NthDegree five cds and downloads?
[17:55] <NthDegree> macfire, in that case, you'll have to try the LTS
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: statistically you COULD download an infinite number of files and never get a good one
[17:56] <rumpe1> csarven, did you execute "bash" or "exec bash" ?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: also did you burn as slowly as you could?
[17:56] <macfire> ActionParsnip but de PORBABILITY is near 0
[17:56] <macfire> ActionParsnip 2,4
[17:56] <csarven> exec bash
[17:56] <NthDegree> don't count on that
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: it can happen though, so checks NEED to be done
[17:56] <macfire> ActionParsnip i chech md5
[17:56] <rumpe1> csarven, ah... doesn't matter... you can also put the PATH=... line in your commandline and it will be applied to the current environment of the shell
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: good, burning slow helps
[17:56] <macfire> in 4 downloads
[17:56] <csarven> source /etc/environment helped. However, I wanted all my screen's to pick that up.
[17:57] <NthDegree> macfire, try the Ubuntu LTS
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> macfire: could try Oneiric, just to test
[17:57] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, hell no, that thing is unstable
[17:58] <macfire> ActionParsnip I install the system, but I can not boot, it just stands in the message "Stopping save kernel messages"
[17:58] <iDirk> Anyone know why I can't drag windows to my other monitor in my dualscreen setup? Searched everywhere and tried everything.
[17:58] <dc5ala> glebihan, i think that apt-cdrom is broken -_-, it used to work back in my debian days ;)
[17:59] <glebihan> dc5ala, it should still be working
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree: its fine here
[17:59] <macfire> my hardwares is, VGA Radeon HD 6800, amd X64
[17:59] <glebihan> dc5ala, are you getting errors when running it ?
[17:59] <macfire> NthDegree 10.04 is works fine
[18:00] <dc5ala> glebihan, it does not find any package indexes there and therefore does not add it to sources.list
[18:00] <NthDegree> macfire, if you're moving from Windows, the LTS is the best option.  It better matches the same release style Windows uses
[18:00] <macfire> but i want the newest version, i want use a UNITY, that why I bought this video card
[18:00] <NthDegree> eww O_O
[18:01] <glebihan> dc5ala, is the CD you've inserted the correct one for your architecture ?
[18:01]  * NthDegree still provides support for Ubuntu, but ditched it on his main PC because of Unity and GNOME 3
[18:01] <dc5ala> glebihan, of course :)
[18:02] <NthDegree> macfire, btw, ATI is the worst option for using 3D, ironically the proprietary NVIDIA drivers are the most bug-free in my experience lately
[18:02] <lauratika> hello everyone... my ide hard drive is recognize on the bios at boot
[18:02] <lauratika> is not sorry, is not
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree: why not keep using ubuntu, but switch desktop env...
[18:03] <macfire> NthDegree and ActionParsnip when I removed the option vt.handoof = 7 in grub, he began, but was in text mode, and it was not for the graphics mode, I typed startx, and it did not work.
[18:03] <dc5ala> glebihan, i was trying to help that dude without internet on his laptop, so i tried if it can work that way, but it does not work as expected and how i used to to that
[18:03] <glebihan> dc5ala, weird then... I don't have a CD here to test, but I'm pretty sure apt-cdrom is still working (and is the way to add a cd to sources.list)
[18:03] <lauratika> this is the output of blkid dev/sda1: UUID="25cfcd4a-1112-4a91-8cbd-c447630b1ebe" TYPE="ext4"
[18:03] <lauratika> /dev/sda2: UUID="96aa5caa-0767-4b31-a875-f5b52fdbb6ba" TYPE="ext4"
[18:03] <lauratika> /dev/sda3: UUID="E656-2CAB" TYPE="vfat"
[18:03] <lauratika> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: UUID="bd600f18-d5f4-4a1f-8651-db3b7472b305" TYPE="swap"
[18:03] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, because I wanted to stick with GNOME 2 and also not lose all the other brilliantly stable, otherwise perfect applications
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> macfire: when startx fails, run:  less /var/loc/xorg.0.log    see what is bad
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree: seen the new fork on omgubuntu
[18:04] <Polah> Has anyone else got the "No installer data could be found" error when attempting to install Starcraft 2 from disk?
[18:04] <macfiree> sorry
[18:05] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, i'll take the 7 years of an RH-clone until GNOME becomes sane again >_>
[18:05] <nirius> ps3 list game please
[18:05] <macfiree> NthDegree and ActionParsnip when I removed the option vt.handoof = 7 in grub, he began, but was in text mode, and it was not for the graphics mode, I typed startx, and it did not work.
[18:05] <adamanna96> Ez mire jó??
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> nirius: that is offtopic here
[18:05] <NthDegree> macfire, that's because the graphics card drivers aren't working right there and then
[18:05] <adamanna96> Nem értem
[18:05] <macfiree> NthDegree and ActionParsnip when I removed the option vt.handoof = 7 in grub, he began, but was in text mode, and it was not for the graphics mode, I typed startx, and it did not work.
[18:05] <nirius> sorry
[18:05] <adamanna96> ???
[18:05] <Myrtti> !hu | adamanna96
[18:06] <macfiree> NthDegree in version 10.04 i install my drivers, in beta version, and did work
[18:06] <NthDegree> macfire, i'd recommend installing fglrx drivers and trying to boot normally then ;)
[18:06] <nirius> list
[18:06] <adamanna96> Mit lehet ezen csinálni ?
[18:06] <adamanna96> Mie jó ???
[18:06] <NthDegree> macfiree, also, have you tried apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root?
[18:06] <iDirk> !hu | adamanna96
[18:06] <NthDegree> macfiree, because updates may fix the problem you're having
[18:07] <ntiy> anybody here from NY?
[18:07] <ntiy> new york?
[18:07] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, wow, guys that seems to have worked - I have desktop on the ubuntu. I will continue from there with wifi in a few minutes to continue working on the initialz problem of getting print to work. The CUPS server is on a mac on the network.
[18:07] <h00k> !ot | ntiy
[18:07] <macfiree> NthDegree but, how do i install the drivers, if i cant boot?
[18:07] <adamanna96> De nem bírja el ez a gép !
[18:07] <lauratika> any ideas why my second hard drive is not recognized by ubuntu?
[18:07] <dc5ala> intrader, great! :)
[18:07] <NthDegree> macfiree, get it to boot the way you did to get it into text mode, then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> macfire: you could blacklist the radeon and ati driver using bootoptions, may help
[18:07] <macfiree> ok
[18:08] <adamanna96> P3 650Mhz 128 RAM
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> macfire: try adding:  radeon.blacklist=1 ati.blacklist=1
[18:08] <macfiree> ActionParsnip first i try de option the NthDegree, if dont work, i try your option
[18:08] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, amazing help - I will be back on the ubuntu. I need to say bye for now
[18:08] <adamanna96> Nem kevés hozzá ??
[18:08] <Myrtti> !english | adamanna96
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> adamanna96: get another 128Mb and you can run puppy or lubuntu easily
[18:09] <Polah> Never mind, got it mounted and running now
[18:09] <afeijo> damn, to recover a damaged ntfs partition its a PITA !
[18:09] <lauratika> adamanna96:  im using in an old laptop wary  5.2 and works pretty well give it a try
[18:11] <adamanna96> Meg kérhetlek titeket hogy magyarul irjatok. Jó lenne mert ugy többet értenék belőle
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: foremost may do it, why do you not have backups?
[18:11] <Polah> Is sudo supposed to work for a single command or a set time period?
[18:11] <macfiree> NthDegree after apt-get upgrade, i need reboot?
[18:12] <adamanna96> Bocsánat érteném legalább.
[18:12] <Polah> macfiree: You shouldn't
[18:12] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, partition backup? :) simple, why would someone resize a partition? lack of space!
[18:12] <NthDegree> macfiree, yep
[18:12] <macfiree> or just type startx?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: yes, and especially before resizing
[18:12] <NthDegree> macfiree, it should update the kernel too
[18:12] <h00k> !hu | adamanna96
[18:12] <NthDegree> so you'll need to reboot
[18:12] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, too late
[18:13] <NthDegree> macfiree, if that fails, try installing flgrx, as that's the proper ATI driver
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you've learned the hardest possible way
[18:13] <NthDegree> err fglrx*
[18:13] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, not too woried, it is just a workstation
[18:13] <sabayonuser> hola
[18:13] <sabayonuser> HOLA
[18:13] <sabayonuser> un saludo desde Palma de Mallorca. España
[18:13] <h00k> !es | sabayonuser
[18:13] <iDirk> Polah: You are 'sodu'ed' 5 minutes I believe.
[18:13] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, funny enough, today is the first day i'm making proper organised backups of my important data XD
[18:14] <Myrtti> adamanna96: /join #ubuntu-hu
[18:14] <brauliobo> hello, can I give a permission to my user A to login as another user B? could you I do that with sudo?
[18:15] <adamanna96> hol találok magyar szervert ??
[18:15] <adamanna96> mi volt a neve
[18:15] <jamesans1ow> anyone know if we can expect to see better support for the macbook pro wireless drivers in upcoming releases?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jamesans1ow: i'd imagine so, most use broadcom things afair, which work with the driver installer
[18:16] <glebihan> brauliobo, you could use "sudo -u username command"
[18:17] <jamesans1ow> ActionParsnip: do you know of any free wireless drivers for broadcom? i know traditionally their firmware is closed
[18:17] <macfiree> boot stop gain
[18:18] <Myrtti> adamanna96: irjatok --> /join #ubuntu-hu
[18:19] <brauliobo> glebihan: nice, but how can I restricted the -u option for only one username, I mean A can use -u with B
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> jamesans1ow: the firmware is proprietary so until broadcom make a move it will be the same
[18:19] <macfiree> in text mode, how do i mount a usb
[18:20] <th0r> jamesans1ow: some of the broadcom cards can be utilized...I am running the 4312 without problems.
[18:20] <th0r> find out which chipset you have and research it on the web
[18:20] <glebihan> brauliobo, afaik it's not possible
[18:21] <macfiree> in /dev/dsb1
[18:21] <edbian> jamesans1ow: wifi BCM4312  ?
[18:21] <glebihan> brauliobo, once a user has the necessary privilege to run sudo with the -u option, he can do it with any user
[18:21] <jamesans1ow> th0r: is that on a 2011 mbp?
[18:21] <jamesans1ow> edbian: what is that for?
[18:21] <edbian> jamesans1ow: I'm asking if that's the wifi card you're trying to get working?
[18:22] <jamesans1ow> edbian: moment
[18:22] <edbian> jamesans1ow: sure
[18:22] <brauliobo> glebihan: i see...
[18:22] <genii-around> macfiree: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt          then you see the contents under /mnt directory
[18:23] <jamesans1ow> edbian: as i'm in OS X at the moment all I can tell is that it's a Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (<IP_ADDRESS>.10) card
[18:24] <edbian> jamesans1ow: what are the xx's?  It's critical to know. In ubuntu you can run sudo lspci | grep Network to find out
[18:26] <glebihan> brauliobo, checking right now, but you may want to have a look at he "Runas_List" option of the sudoers file
[18:26] <jamesans1ow> edian: BCM4331
[18:26] <jamesans1ow> edbian: BCM4311 *
[18:27] <brauliobo> glebihan: hum, will check it ou
[18:27] <edbian> jamesans1ow: oh that's cards easy.  are you online via some other method with the Ubuntu computer?
[18:27] <adamanna96> Mit kell csinálni hogy a magyar szerveren legyek ?
[18:27] <saba> Does anyone run Ubuntu on the latest macbook air?
[18:27] <jamesans1ow> edbian: I am, via ethernet wired
[18:27] <kkdevta> hello people, idle CPU temperture is 50 C and on load it goes upto 60 C. Is this normal??
[18:28] <edbian> jamesans1ow: excellent.  Basically you need to install the firmware.  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer and sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[18:28] <jamesans1ow> edbian: thanks I shall give it a go
[18:28] <edbian> jamesans1ow: let me know when those things are installed
[18:29] <glebihan> brauliobo, it doesn't seem to be what you're looking for after all
[18:29] <kkdevta> hello people, idle CPU temperture is 50 C and on load it goes upto 60 C. Is this normal?? using ubuntu natty on intel core2duo t6500 processor
[18:29] <akashm1990> kkdevta, ambient temp?
[18:30] <kkdevta> 28 C
[18:30] <kkdevta> akashm1990, 28 C
[18:30] <adamanna96> Mit kell csinálni hogy a magyar szerveren legyek
[18:30] <adamanna96> Valaki segítsen
[18:31] <macfiree> now, its work
[18:31] <Myrtti> adamanna96: ez a csatorna csak angol nyelvű, írás / join #ubuntu-hu, esetleg valaki tudna segíteni van
[18:31] <nil1gn> hello, is there a channel for unity?
[18:31] <glebihan> brauliobo, you may want to have a look at this : http://serverfault.com/questions/17814/how-can-i-allow-one-user-to-su-to-another-without-allowing-root-access
[18:31] <nil1gn> does anyone know if theres plans to port it to gtk3 or gnome 3?
[18:31] <aeon-ltd> !turkish > adamanna96
[18:32] <akashm1990> kkdevta, seems to be a bit high.. but unless load temps cross 75-80, I dont think you should worry about it
[18:32] <glebihan> nil1gn, in oneiric unity will be running on gnome3
[18:32] <Pici> aeon-ltd: Thats not turkish...
[18:32] <iDirk> lol
[18:32] <ObrienDave> nil1gn: /join #unity
[18:33] <mtrd`> ObrienDave, use invitations, please.
[18:33] <Pici> ObrienDave: Thats not an official channel.
[18:33] <opt1mus> msg chanserv access #unity info
[18:33] <nil1gn> its also ##unity
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> Pici: heh google translate hath failed me again.........
[18:33] <opt1mus> oops
[18:33] <nil1gn> ObrienDave: thats another projects channel
[18:33] <kkdevta> akashm1990,  the whole dell laptop feels hot on ubuntu where else on fedora it's cooler...i am using i8ktools but not able to figureout if it's working
[18:33] <Pici> nil1gn: Feel free to ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[18:33] <ObrienDave> ok ok got it
[18:34] <akashm1990> kkdevta, yes, its a  bit on the higher side, but not too high
[18:34] <nil1gn> i see unity in oneiric depends on libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.1.6) http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/unity so its already ported
[18:34] <nil1gn> thank you
[18:34] <spunion> hi
[18:35] <spunion> ive got natty narwhal on lenovo x121e intel 13 i installed it
[18:35] <spunion> all works
[18:35] <spunion> but could be better
[18:35] <spunion> anyone know anything?
[18:35] <iDirk> What?
[18:35] <spunion> i know nothing
[18:35] <edbian> spunion: It could not be better than Ubuntu :)
[18:35] <mbeierl> Where does one find a howto or other guide on using Unity?  Something as simple as creating keyboard shortcuts to launch programs eludes me.
[18:35] <aeon-ltd> spunion: better how?
[18:35] <kkdevta> akashm1990,  thanks.. :)
[18:36] <spunion> sleep functions, etc
[18:36] <spunion> other drivers
[18:36] <spunion> i know nothing
[18:36] <akashm1990> kkdevta, Ubuntu usually runs hotter than windows (dont know about Fedora though)
[18:36] <Pici> !enter | spunion
[18:36] <glebihan> mbeierl, http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2011/04/my-effort-at-writing-help-for-unity.html
[18:36] <brauliobo> glebihan: that's it, thanx!
[18:36] <glebihan> brauliobo, you're welcome
[18:37] <Guest58119> hola
[18:38] <Guest58119> hola
[18:38] <Pici> !es | Guest58119
[18:38] <spunion> is ubuntu an alternative community?
[18:38] <edbian> spunion: alternative to what?
[18:38] <carl__> lu
[18:38] <spunion> im not sure
[18:38] <oCean> spunion: this channel is for technical support, try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[18:38] <spunion> windows
[18:38] <edbian> spunion: yes
[18:39] <mbeierl> glebihan: thanks.  That's a little too high level... I
[18:39] <spunion> is an alternative to the wider world. another space
[18:39] <oCean> spunion: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[18:39] <edbian> spunion: Ubuntu is not an alternate planet.
[18:39] <spunion> ok sorry
[18:39] <spunion> ciao
[18:40] <glebihan> mbeierl, sorry... that's the only one I know of
[18:43] <mbeierl> glebihan: yep.  that's why I'm having a hard time adjusting to it, I guess.  There's no "unity for gnome users" transition guide type thing...
[18:43] <h00k> spunion: /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like
[18:44] <calwig> Hi, the mouse scroll section of the mouse pad isnt working. How can I check that this module is loaded?
[18:45] <xrdodrx> calwig, I'm assuming you're not talking about the trackpad on your laptop?
[18:48] <calwig> xrdodrx: yeah
[18:48] <calwig> xrdodrx: Last week it was working now its now
[18:48] <calwig> err not
[18:49] <xrdodrx> calwig, have you updated your kernel in that time? rebooted your computer? is the module psmouse loaded? what does the output of `lsmod` look like?
[18:49] <calwig> xrdodrx: kernel update yeah, let me see..
[18:50] <calwig> xrdodrx: psmouse                40336  0
[18:50] <calwig> xrdodrx: I presume it must be loaded from somewhere
[18:50] <xrdodrx> calwig, try doing sudo rmmod psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse
[18:50] <calwig> k
[18:51] <eross> should i install netbeans 7.01 as super user or home user? I guess superuser is same as system-wide?
[18:51] <calwig> xrdodrx: now wait.. the pad works, its just the scroll
[18:52] <xrdodrx> calwig, i know, thought that might help ;)
[18:52] <calwig> xrdodrx: let me explain what happened...
[18:52] <xrdodrx> have you tried restarting X?
[18:52] <xrdodrx> sure
[18:53] <killfoo> hi, i have a hp elitebook 8540w with nvidia geforce 1800m. after the installation with alternate 64bit, the X cannot start (screwed up stuff is displayed). any known problems related to such issues with ubuntu?
[18:53] <xrdodrx>  /w 22
[18:54] <calwig> xrdodrx: I run this OS on the fly and I thought I could load this on another computer. X however didnt load, and I presume xorg.conf got backed up or changed. Anyhow I gave up loading Ubuntu on that PC so I just went back to my laptop and X did not load. I had to manually get an xorg.conf backup file and restore it myself
[18:54] <xrdodrx> :|
[18:54] <calwig> xrdodrx: Once I got X to load up again, the scroll bar just didnt work.
[18:54] <calwig> on the fly= USB
[18:55] <xrdodrx> that makes sense, since X decides that type of thing
[18:55] <eross> but if i do a sudo install, will i have problems running the autoupdate from the help menu?
[18:55] <xrdodrx> yeah, I know what on the fly is :)
[18:55] <xrdodrx> calwig, mind putting your xorg.conf up on paste.ubuntu.com so I can take a look?
[18:56] <bourke> hi what repo has the latest stable version of google chrome?
[18:56] <xrdodrx> bourke, the one you get when you download chrome from google's website
[18:56] <bourke> I have http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ but it's only giving me v8
[18:57] <calwig> xrdodrx: yeth thir
[18:57] <bourke> maybe that is the latest stable :/
[18:57] <rumpe1> bourke, deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[18:57] <Pici> bourke: There are PPAs that align with Google's release channels.
[18:57] <bourke> ah
[18:57] <linuxuz3r> bourke i got version 11 and i got it from googles website
[18:58] <bourke> maybe Ill just try redownloading the google package
[19:00] <bourke> thanks
[19:01] <xrdodrx> sorry calwig, I've got to go, hope you get help :)
[19:01] <littletinybaby> is there a way to run multiple programs from one terminal?
[19:01] <bourke> littletinybaby: add & after the command
[19:01] <glebihan> littletinybaby, use a "&" at the end of the command to run it in background
[19:01] <trism> littletinybaby: or use screen/tmux and separate windows
[19:02] <mbeierl> Is there such a thing as a workspace switcher applet (or any docking applet) for unity?  I'm used to being able to see thumbnails of windows on workspaces at a glance, and not have to hunt for them?
[19:02] <littletinybaby> thank you
[19:03] <albech> looking for a good spam filter for my postfix/dovecot. It need to support user training
[19:03] <littletinybaby> Thanks guys!
[19:03] <glebihan> littletinybaby, you're welcome
[19:05] <calwig> xrdodrx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673309/
[19:05] <doofy_> so it looks like Apple took SMB support out of OS X Lion because the SMB guys changed the license to GPL 3… Anyone have suggestions on a quick way to get some file shares back up and running that OS X Lion could access?
[19:06] <lonewulf`> hi all, is there a program like ccleaner on winxp for natty narwhal?
[19:06] <aeon-ltd> doofy_: (s)ftp?
[19:06] <lonewulf`> ubuntu 11.04
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> lonewulf`: why? there's no need excpt flash cache and cookies
[19:07] <ichbinder> hello. Can anybody confirm that linking with liblpsolve55-dev (<IP_ADDRESS>-7) leads to a linker error like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/673314/ on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:07] <doofy_> aeon-ltd: Im trying to make it just show up for people on the network. SMB broadcasts over avahi I'm pretty sure which made it nice and easy for people to access
[19:07] <mbeierl> sorry - X crash - lost connection.
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> doofy_: nfs? not sure if apple supports that, but avahi can probably help
[19:08] <lonewulf`> aeon-ltd, thanks for the response...let me ask you this then...whats the best way to wipe flash, cache, and cookies in ubuntu 11.04?
[19:08] <designbybeck> how do you kill a zombie proccess?
[19:08] <doofy_> aeon-ltd: NFS is probably a good idea. ill give that a shot. thanks
[19:08] <designbybeck> i am viewing 'top' at the moment
[19:08] <lonewulf`> really trying not to go into winxp for ANYTHING
[19:08] <designbybeck> and a program didn't shut down
[19:08] <designbybeck> using 105% processor?
[19:09] <designbybeck> i tried Kill -9 and such
[19:09] <calwig> oops, im back
[19:10] <designbybeck> am i in the wrong spot for asking that kind of question
[19:11] <calwig> and again...
[19:11] <glebihan> designbybeck, you can't kill a zombie process
[19:11] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i'm back, and last time, we were trying to boot an Ubuntu ISO on a computer that can't boot from floppy, CD or USB.
[19:11] <calwig> xrdodrx: back
[19:11] <LABcrab> glebihan: This isnt Twilight!
[19:11] <glebihan> designbybeck, the only way to kill it to kill its parent
[19:11] <aeon-ltd> lonewulf`: the browser can handle the last 2, ~/macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/YOURalphanumericcode and ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys ; also apt-get builds up a cache in /var/cache/apt-something-can't remember but i'd keep those for rolling back or quick reinstalls
[19:11] <designbybeck> hmmm glebihan i tried the proccess id
[19:11] <designbybeck> which was kdenlive
[19:12] <designbybeck> i had saved and closed out, but something with it is still running
[19:12] <ichbinder> nobody has experience with liblpsolve55-dev?
[19:12] <glebihan> designbybeck, what is the parent of that process ?
[19:12] <h00k> ichbinder: what is your actual question?
[19:12] <designbybeck> how do i find that out glebihan ?
[19:13] <Gasseus> How would I restrict network access by user?
[19:14] <ichbinder> h00k: I get linking errors with liblpsolve55-dev and wanted to see if others have that problem too and if anybody has a solution
[19:14] <glebihan> designbybeck, ps -fp process_id will give the parent process id (PPID column)
[19:14] <Kingsy> hmmm I don't think I understand rsync... say I have a folder like this   /hello/anotherfolder/file.bin    and then I sync it to another drive..  then I move file.bin to   /hello/file.bin and resync will it delete and do a rull resync? move the files around to match? or just copy the file again so I will have two copies in the sync drive?
[19:14] <ichbinder> h00k: besides building it from source... :)
[19:14] <designbybeck> ok the PPID shows 1 glebihan
[19:14] <tekk> hi! i have an lvm2 vol and its formatted as ext2, if i wanted to extend the size of the vol, do i simply add the new drive to the volume-group and then vgextend and then run resize2fs ?
[19:15] <urlin2u> Kingsy, beside the command line use there a gui apps like grsync, is one I use.
[19:15] <glebihan> designbybeck, then it's init, and you can't kill it, afaik your only option is a rebooot
[19:15] <Kingsy> urlin2u: well the question still applies for grsync
[19:15] <designbybeck> uh oh!... Ok, thanks for your help glebihan
[19:15] <glebihan> designbybeck, you're welcome
[19:15] <designbybeck> I'll reboot
[19:15] <Pici> Kingsy: Unless you're specifying --delete it will not delete the file, but it won't move the files on the remote side, it will re-copy.
[19:16] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i'm back, and last time, we were trying to boot an Ubuntu ISO on a computer that can't boot from floppy, CD or USB.
[19:16] <urlin2u> Kingsy, yes,
[19:16] <Kingsy> Pici: ah.. so thats the best way of keeping a direct copy?
[19:16] <Pici> Kingsy: I'm not sure what you mean by 'direct copy'.
[19:16] <lonewulf`> aeon-ltd, thank you very much!!!