[00:01] <BrianE> Evening, can anyone tell me how to use KDE/Dolphin's SVN integration?
[00:03] <BluesKaj> !svn
[00:03] <BrianE> BluesKaj: That's not what I'm talking about. I heard that Dolphin has SVN support/integration, was wondering if someone could point that out to me
[00:03] <BluesKaj> I beleive svn is cli only
[00:05] <BluesKaj> anyway BrianE m good luck with svn ... it's always been flaky for me , so i avoid it if possible
[00:06] <BrianE> BluesKaj: I use SVN for team collaboration for the development projects I work on; it is NOT flaky. Right now I need to commit my latest work before going to bed, I just wanted to sample Dolphin's SVN integration; the command line is perfectly fine as a substitute
[00:06] <BrianE> Was hoping someone could point me to it, but alas :(
[00:07] <BluesKaj> maybe #svn can help
[00:07] <BrianE> It's not an SVN question, it's a question of Dolphin / KDE, which is why I'm here =\
[00:08] <BluesKaj> really , seems like an svn question to me :)
[00:09] <kaddi> maybe try #kde then?
[00:09] <BrianE> Not really... I'm asking where to find Dolphin's SVN integration. You wouldn't go to #ftp to ask how to login to an FTP resource with Dolphin
[00:09] <BrianE> kaddi: Will do
[00:09] <Bosox20051> What is the deal with this kubuntu-docs error?
[00:09] <BrianE> I just committed anyway, just wanna see how Dolphin handles it :-)
[00:10] <syntax> how would i install konversation 1.2 alpha
[00:10] <kaddi> syntax: isn't konversation 1.2 alpha 4 default in jaunty?
[00:11] <syntax> no
[00:11] <syntax> 1.1 is
[00:12] <kaddi> syntax:  you can get it from the backports, but it would likely also update some of the other software you have installed.
[00:13] <kaddi> see here for a list of software in the backports: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty-backports/allpackages
[00:36] <sinclair> hello
[00:37] <sinclair> ok, need some help here
[00:37] <EagleScreen> !ask | sinclair
[00:37] <sinclair> I know :) was just formulating the question
[00:37] <sinclair> ok
[00:38] <sinclair> I have a m2ne sly mother
[00:38] <sinclair> sli*
[00:38] <sinclair> with 7.1 usb sound
[00:38] <sinclair> the system sounds work
[00:38] <sinclair> i mean the logon sound
[00:39] <sinclair> but I cannot control volume and other alpications have no sound
[00:39] <sinclair> the speake by the clock shows a red X
[00:39] <sinclair> iseas?
[00:39] <sinclair> omg Ideas?
[00:58] <sinclair> ok, it seems i have to go back to windows
[00:59] <sinclair> "Linux is way better than Windows" my ass
[01:01] <ZuzonLinux> sinclair: I like both equally to telly ou the truth
[01:01] <ZuzonLinux> nm
[01:01] <amason_> think he's gone.
[01:01] <ZuzonLinux> yeah
[01:01] <trampel> good (as they say) riddance
[01:01] <ZuzonLinux> are there any good FLV players out there?
[01:02] <ZuzonLinux> for kubuntu
[01:02] <amason_> i believe that vlc, mplayer and totem will play flv
[01:03] <trampel> mplayer never gave me any trouble with flv....
[01:03] <amason_> i watched an flv file the other day on a jaunty install. not sure which player it used
[01:04] <amason_> but it played fine
[01:05] <ZuzonLinux> thanks i didnt have it installed
[01:05] <ZuzonLinux> ill get it now
[01:05] <ZuzonLinux> mplayer that is
[01:11] <swiftegz> \
[01:11] <swiftegz> i need my screen resolution fixed on my hp dv6000 running ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[01:12] <swiftegz> ?
[01:13] <swiftegz> ?
[01:13] <swiftegz> ?
[01:13] <swiftegz> ?
[01:13] <FloodBotK1> swiftegz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <swiftegz> i need my screen resolution fixed on my hp dv6000 running ubuntu 9.04 64bit.i need my screen resolution fixed on my hp dv6000 running ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[01:14] <swiftegz> any help
[01:14] <swiftegz> pleaase
[01:18] <kaddi> when I click on the wastebin widget I get an error message "invalid adress trash:/" instead of dolphin opening the wastebin. Is that fixable?
[01:18] <kaddi> kde 4.2.4 and jaunty
[02:11] <eypherath> Good evening....I need a little help concerning my music database...Amarok seems to be completely unable to either play or find all of my music files...I was told by a friend that this was due to some issues with the character encoding, as my files where copied onto a linux drive before stuff like that became an issue...
[02:13] <eypherath> Now he told me to use this script called convmv to convert the encoding to utf8, which I did, but it resulted just in amarok finally being able to find all files without crashing, but now it can't play any file at all..
[02:13] <eypherath> Has anyone here encountered equal problems?
[02:14] <eypherath> Or could I have done something wrong whit that script?
[02:47] <_genuser_> hey guys.
[03:02] <technician> hi
[03:02] <technician> i have problem
[03:03] <technician> cannot enter my hdd
[03:03] <technician> please help
[03:04] <darthanubis> lol, how is anyone supposed to help a "technician" that provides so little detail?
[03:08] <technician> how am i wanna mount my partition
[03:08] <technician> please help me man
[03:17] <rafael> hello
[03:17] <rafael> i need some rapid help
[03:18] <rafael> anyone can paste for me a fstab line which uses UUID?
[03:18] <rafael> i want it as reference
[03:32] <xsebsx> hello, i recently installed kubuntu, my laptop c omes with a dvd player and burner yet i am having trouble reading some vcd format dvd any help much appreciated
[03:54] <eMyller> anyone here with 3g?
[04:05] <zone_master> Can anyone help with an NFS problem?
[04:19] <rav> hello. i have installed kmymoney on kubuntu jaunty, and the gui doesn't use the options i've set for KDE. how can i fix this?
[04:23] <cabrey> hey guys, is there like a wiki entry on how to replace kwin with compiz in kde4/kubuntu?
[04:25] <navetz> hey does anyone else here use KATE?
[04:25] <eMyller> navetz: me.
[04:25] <navetz> i want to know how to make the dirctory structure use a tree view. Does anyone know how to do that?
[04:25] <eMyller> cabrey: just install compiz and set it for use in 'default applications' @ system settings
[04:26] <navetz> I saw the editor in mac does this and it looks like a great feature
[04:26] <eMyller> navetz: you using the filebrowser plugin?
[04:26] <cabrey> eMyller, won't that use gtk-window-decorator?
[04:26] <navetz> eMyller: I'm not sure :S I haven't configured it for a long time. Is this a seprate add on?
[04:27] <navetz> eMyller:  I am using the filesystem broswer feature, but it doesn't have the option for tree view
[04:27] <eMyller> navetz: it comes natively.
[04:27] <navetz> eMyller: it comes with detailed view or thumbnail view
[04:27] <eMyller> yes, it does. :P
[04:27] <eMyller> there are some icons above the files list. click on 'tree view'
[04:27] <navetz> eMyller: is there a way to get tree view
[04:27] <navetz> oh okay
[04:27] <navetz> thanks
[04:28] <eMyller> navetz: found?
[04:28] <navetz> eMyller: err nope I only see detailed view and thumbnail view
[04:29] <navetz> eMyller: do you have something extra installed?
[04:29] <eMyller> navetz: isn't the bar too small? you seeing a '»' after the icons?
[04:30] <eMyller> navetz: yes, some plugins, but they have nothing to do it file system browser =P
[04:30] <navetz> eMyller: yes I see it but I don't see a tree view option :(
[04:30] <cabrey> ok I'm using compiz now, but it is using metacity themes :(
[04:31] <eMyller> navetz: isn't that hidden in the '»', due to overflow?
[04:31] <navetz> eMyller: nope I just expanded the window to be able to see it
[04:31] <corigo> Is there anyway to have the Task Bay only show the applications for the current desktop?
[04:31] <eMyller> navetz: go to kate settings > file system browser settings > and check if this icon is enabled to your view
[04:32] <eMyller> corigo: change its settings
[04:32] <navetz> eMyller: also after a quick search i see that kate has a plugin for it but its for version KDE 4.X
[04:32] <navetz> I check that
[04:32] <navetz> i'll look for a version in 3.5
[04:32] <eMyller> navetz: don't. kate for kde4 has it built in.
[04:33] <eMyller> you just aren't finding it.
[04:33] <navetz> eMyller: I am using KDE 3.5
[04:33] <navetz> this is probably why
[04:33] <navetz> lol
[04:33] <corigo> I don't see a setting for this
[04:33] <name> what dvd players come with a standard install
[04:33] <eMyller> navetz: ah. you *really* should use kde4. =P
[04:34] <eMyller> navetz: so go to download this plugin in kde apps site
[04:34] <Guest79591> what is the "best" dvd player
[04:34] <eMyller> Guest79591: try vlc.
[04:34] <eMyller> navetz: dragonplayer works fine
[04:34] <eMyller> vlc gives lots of extra options.
[04:35] <Guest79591> k, thanks
[04:35] <eMyller> corigo: right click an empty area on task bar and voilà
[04:35] <corigo> Guest79591: I second that VLC gives you the most extra functions and additional media support beyond just playing DVDs
[04:35] <sep1318> +1 for vlc
[04:35] <navetz> eMyller: I'm lazy I'm still using hardy lol
[04:35] <eMyller> wow.
[04:36] <corigo> eMyller: All that shows me is the same info when I click on the swirly bean... and the More Settings, doesn't help either
[04:36] <eMyller> i can't imagine myself outdated for one second.
[04:36] <eMyller> corigo: kde4?
[04:36] <corigo> 4.3
[04:36] <navetz> eMyller: it just breaks to much every time I upgrade
[04:37] <eMyller> corigo: is your taskbar full? every people with this doubt can't access its settings due to this possibility.
[04:37] <corigo> Navetz: Hardy is good. But Jaunty solved all my Intrepid issues... so no complaints
[04:37] <corigo> eMyller ... always
[04:38] <navetz> corigo:i'll probably upgrade soon
[04:39] <eMyller> corigo: anyway, 1) unlock plasma widgets (if locked) 2) click that icon in the panel's corner, to access *the panel* settings; 3) right click the task manager widget (now static) and go to "Task Manager Settings"
[04:40] <eMyller> you might find what you're wanting there.
[04:42] <DouglasK> Question ... is it possible to have a wallet auto open at login?  For use with the network manager.
[04:42] <Guest79591> any themes out there that make the windows use less border space
[04:43] <DouglasK> Guest79591: check out www.kde-look.org ... you may find something there.
[04:44] <eMyller> Guest79591: you can set it for any theme in system settings > appearance > windows
[04:44] <corigo> eMyller: As soon as I right click on the panel - the settings window disappears and clicking on the Panel Options - Panel Settings only reopens it.  I don't see any other options available to me that would allow me to define it as only displaying the open apps from the active dekstop
[04:45] <eMyller> corigo: you will *not* use the panel options
[04:46] <afeijo> how can I recompile my kernel?
[04:46] <eMyller> corigo: it's just a way to force widget's right click action
[04:47] <eMyller> open panel settings > right click taskbar; panel settings will disappear, but a menu will open (the taskbar one); now just click task manager settings and a new dialog will open
[04:47] <corigo> Then I don't understand... maybe I am using the wrong terminology... my problem is that my panel is showing all open applications and I want it to only show the applications open in the active desktop... I thought that the primary panel was called the Task Bar, maybe I was wrong...,
[04:49] <corigo> because I don't see any "Task Manager" widget per se
[04:51] <Guest79591> what there's no apt-get for motd
[04:51] <Guest79591> heh
[04:51] <DouglasK> Ok, in Gnome, you can set it up so you don't need to type a password into the password manager to log into your wireless network.  Is this possible in KDE?
[04:53] <navetz> this kate plugin is annoying! yarg
[04:53] <eMyller> corigo: taskbar == task manager widget == the applet where you see a windows list in
[04:55] <corigo> eMyller: Ok, so the terminology is correct the task manager widget shows the windows list in the panel... but where is the widget itself so that I can right click on it?
[04:56] <eMyller> corigo: are you seeing the window list?
[05:01] <navetz> If I have KDE3.5 and I install KATE for KDE4.0 what will happen?
[05:04] <eMyller> navetz: a portal for a parallel world will open and you'll see things you've never seen before.
[05:04] <navetz> eMyller:sick !
[05:05] <eMyller> navetz: that means "i don't know." :P
[05:06] <navetz> gotcha
[05:06] <corigo> eMyller: In the panel, yes
[05:06] <corigo> navetz: It worked fine for me before I updated to 4
[05:07] <navetz> corigo: okay i'm doing it
[05:07] <ian__> YEAH LINUX
[05:07] <eMyller> corigo: so follow exactly these steps:
[05:08] <navetz> I think I'll upgrade to kde4.3 soon
[05:09] <eMyller> 1) access panel options; 2) hover the windows list. you might notice that it's static, movable now. right click on it. 3) panel settings will disappear and a context menu will open. this menu is the task manager's one. go to "Task Manager Settings".
[05:09] <eMyller> 4) in the dialog that will open, check "Only show tasks from the current desktop". done.
[05:11] <corigo> Hoo boy... you can lead a horse to water .... thanks, I've got it now... this interface is just way too cluttered with all the "other" settings options when I'm only expecting the one...
[05:11] <corigo> It keeps happening to me exactly the same every time, and I always miss the option I'm looking for... One of these days I'll adjust...
[05:12] <eMyller> corigo: that's easy, you just couldn't access it before cuz the taskbar was full of windows.
[05:13] <eMyller> you can access the same menu just by right clicking an *empty* area in the taskbar
[05:13] <eMyller> or forcing the menu by accessing panel options, like you did now.
[05:14] <corigo> eMyller: Unless I close all applications (including my irc) the task bar is always full, because (at least in 4.3) the tabs always expand to fill the space. Even one app fills the bar
[05:16] <eMyller> corigo: it doesn't happen here.
[05:17] <corigo> Anyone ever succesfully install KimPanel?
[05:21] <corigo> sorry I missed that... has anyone succesfully installed KimPanel?
[05:23] <amason_> corigo: its ok no one replied in the time you were absent.
[05:27] <navetz> man kate for kde4.0 is pretty awesome
[05:27] <navetz> I think i'm upgrading OS's this weekend
[05:27] <navetz> cant you go from hardy straight to jaunty?
[05:27] <corigo> navetz: sure
[05:28] <navetz> corigo: i;ll try it but hopfuly it doesn't fuck up my sound again :(
[05:28] <darthanubis> navetz: fool this is a family channel
[05:28] <darthanubis> !language
[05:29] <navetz> darthanubis: yo fool all children will grow up
[05:29] <navetz> well not all
[05:29] <navetz> but hopefully all
[05:29] <navetz> :)
[05:49] <corigo> navetz: are you using Pulse Audio?
[06:52] <fineline> Hi all.I have Vista on my laptop and have installed Kubuntu 9.04 in the same partition.Now I want to remove it and free that space for Vista usage.How should I do that?
[06:56] <fineline> any comment?
[07:17] <eMyller> what app do you use for managing services like apache, postgresql, etc?
[07:32] <jussi01> eMyller: on a remote server?
[07:33] <eMyller|busy> jussi01: no, my own box. i'm looking for a gui to manage services
[07:33] <jussi01> !ebox | eMyller something like this?
[07:33] <eMyller|busy> the service manager bundled into system settings doesn't show things like apache, couchdb, mysql, etc
[07:34] <jussi01> eMyller: also, it is preferable that you dont use away/status nicks.
[07:34] <myself> whats the name of the program in KDE that takes screenshots
[07:34] <eMyller|busy> myself: ksnapshot
[07:34] <myself> thanks
[07:35] <eMyller|busy> jussi01: i know, i just handle clients that doesnt support away status.
[07:35] <myself> is there a way to make it in terminal so i run a program after a certain number of seconds? like i typei n the command then the program runs in say 5 seconds
[07:36] <jussi01> myself: you do now ksnapshot has a wait built into its gui?
[07:36] <eMyller|busy> myself: ksnapshot provide options like these. ;)
[07:36] <myself> how do i do that
[07:36] <eMyller|busy> jussi01: thanks for pointing ebox :)
[07:36] <jussi01> myself: open ksnapshot - and look
[07:36] <myself> im trying to take a ksnapshot in gnome btw, because printscreen wont take a screenshot of a menu
[07:36] <myself> oh i see
[07:36] <myself> it has a delay, ty
[07:37] <jussi01> :)
[07:37] <myself> cool it worked, thank you
[07:39] <leaf-sheep> myself: You want it in terminal? "scrot -d 5 -c"
[07:40] <myself> oh cool thank you
[07:40] <myself> whats scrot?
[07:43] <leaf-sheep> !info scrot | myself
[07:45] <eMyller|busy> jussi01: i need just a simple thing where i can check/uncheck some service to be started in system startup
[07:45] <jussi01> oh...
[07:45] <eMyller|busy> it's not actually a server admin, it's just a dev box
[07:45] <jussi01> !bum | eMyller|busy
[07:46] <eMyller|busy> gonna see :)
[07:47] <eMyller|busy> none for kde, using qt?
[07:48] <nitheesh> ns register nitheesh nithi321**
[07:48] <eMyller|busy> nitheesh: oops :P
[07:49]  * leaf-sheep jot down something in his little notebook.
[07:52] <eMyller|busy> jussi01: that just fits perfectly, thanks :)
[07:53] <jussi01> eMyller|busy: :)
[07:53] <myself> cool ty
[07:53] <myself> leaf-sheep :)
[08:47] <MadAGu> hey guys i have a question: why in network management i can't see any wired networks? is there any way to fix it?
[08:48] <ussher> I just upgraded to Jaunty and am trying to figure out how to get a folder into the taskbar that has my favorite applications in there.  is this a widgit thing?
[08:50] <coreyman> how do i auto login kubuntu?
[08:50] <coreyman> i mean kde
[08:51] <ussher> coreyman: did you look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34951
[08:51] <coreyman> yes
[08:51] <coreyman> i am unable to get into login manager
[08:52] <ussher> coreyman: which version of (k)ubuntu
[08:52] <coreyman> it is the ubuntu min install, and i installed kdm
[08:52] <coreyman> newest versions of each
[08:53] <ussher> coreyman: 9.04 jaunty with kde 4.2?
[08:53] <amason_> after running kde 4.3 for so long , 4.2 seems like the stone ages
[08:54] <coreyman> kde whatever is in the repository and yes 9.04
[08:54] <ussher> coreyman: can you open your "system settings"
[08:54] <coreyman> yes
[08:54] <ussher> coreyman: and under the "advanced" tab isnt there a icon for "Login manager"
[08:54] <coreyman> there is but it just sits there and doesnt do anything
[08:54] <coreyman> i think im missing a package
[08:54] <coreyman> what is the login manager package?
[08:55] <coreyman> oh wow, it actually did something when i clicked it that time, i had to put in my password >.>
[08:55] <ussher> coreyman: when i click on mine it asks for the admin password.  i dont know what the package name is, sorry
[08:56] <coreyman> hah
[08:56] <ussher> your ok now?
[08:57] <coreyman> should be.... you ever use vnc?
[08:58] <ussher> i use vlc... does that count?  what is vnc?
[08:58] <ussher> coreyman: if i have to ask, i probably dont use it.
[08:58] <coreyman> virtual network computing
[08:59] <ussher> I link my laptop to my desktop to get 4 screens of view space.  not sure if that is vnc or not.
[08:59] <ussher> but it feels like one huge screen.
[08:59] <coreyman> heh
[09:01] <ussher> I really just finished an upgrade from 8.04 about 20 min ago.  im missing my favorites folder in my task bar.  any idea how to list a folder of application links in the task bar.
[09:02] <coreyman> idk.. that stinks
[09:02] <coreyman> is it a widget
[09:02] <coreyman> yea its a widget
[09:03] <coreyman> add folder view or quick access
[09:03] <ussher> coreyman: was that for me?  i should be looking for a widget called IDK.
[09:03] <coreyman> ussher sorry..
[09:03] <frost_> I know most people apretiate a direct question, But i have now posted my issue for 2 days, and this is a community interest to fix, and still I get no replies. I would really like someone to follow me intoo the depths of the microphone issue that arrived with the 9.04. I have gotten quite far, but nobody seems interested to assist on this matter. I would really like to start from the beginning and explain the problem as we get closer to the end. But
[09:03] <frost_>  bother if I have to type all this for no replies. so if you wanna try, ill try to explain how far i gotten.
[09:03] <apparle> why do I gt this while bootiing [   18.268980] agpgart-ati 0000:00:00.0: unsupported Ati chipset [1002/5a33])
[09:06] <coreyman> ussher you find it?
[09:06] <ussher> coreyman: is there a way to turn the folders into folders like in the 'K' menu
[09:07] <ussher> coreyman: I got the quickaccess there, but it is quick access to folders.  Im wanting to go to applications i use all the time, eclipse, firefox, kate, konsole, etc
[09:07] <coreyman> ussher you mean that have shortcuts to programs?
[09:07] <coreyman> ussher i think you can drag icons there.... and copy them
[09:08] <ussher> in the 'K' menu i have a folder called "Fav" that i put all my used apps on and in kde3 just moved that to the task bar and that was it
[09:08] <ussher> coreyman: yeah, that is what i was expecting to do.  doesnt work.
[09:09] <coreyman> odd >.> works on my desktop
[09:09] <marko_> hello
[09:09] <ussher> coreyman: tried right-click and expected to see "add to task bar" but right click doesnt do anything unfortnately.
[09:09] <coreyman> yea
[09:10] <coreyman> idk im no guru, heh
[09:11] <ussher> coreyman: thanks for the help.  still early days yet.  Im sure ill stumble on the setting as im getting used to the new feel.  thanks very much
[09:20] <Guest55819> Is there a really good and easy to use kde application to find/replace over multiple files, with support of regular expressions?
[09:22] <Guest55819> for replacing contents of files
[09:24] <g_giulio> hi
[09:25] <g_giulio> some1 is here?
[09:26] <g_giulio> mmm.... maybe no1...sobhh
[09:29] <apparle> g_giulio: fireaway the question
[09:29] <mattdh01> hello
[09:30] <g_giulio> hi at all
[09:30] <g_giulio> thanks a lot again to apparle...
[09:30] <g_giulio> remember...now java is ok!!!THANKS AGAIN...
[09:31] <g_giulio> so, it's sample...
[09:31] <apparle> g_giulio: so whats the new problem
[09:31] <mattdh01> Why does kubuntu only update from the next vesion...
[09:31] <mattdh01> Why not the latest?...
[09:32] <apparle> mattdh01: what do you mean
[09:32] <g_giulio> which is (if there is) a  command in a shall to disactive an a comand to active the adsl service? over etherneth...
[09:32] <g_giulio> remember popon...
[09:33] <g_giulio> or popoff but it does'n work...
[09:34] <g_giulio> only to turn of ant to swith on the service...
[09:34] <apparle> are you talking about 'pon'
[09:34] <g_giulio> yes,.. but it's ok to use it?
[09:35] <apparle> g_giulio: O don't know I never used it
[09:36] <apparle> g_giulio: if you are having problem reagrding shell commands then they are same for ubuntu also.........try at #ubuntu......they have more members online
[09:36] <g_giulio> becouse if i use pon on a shell  and i try to use tab to complete the command nothing do...like if there i no command
[09:37] <g_giulio> ok thanks i try...
[10:05]  * Lacsap is back.
[10:06] <jussi01> !away > Lacsap
[10:13] <Lacsap> jussi01: thanks for the hint, I'm not so familiar with IRC ;) I'll change the messages...
[10:31] <afief> Hello, I tried upgrading from kde4.2 to 4.3 on jaunty, but I'm getting the following dependency problem: http://pastebin.com/m323cb82c
[10:33] <afief> please anybody? I'm stuck with some stuff from 4.2 and some from 4.3, and a big mess
[10:52] <duanshaolong> hi   what's this?
[10:54] <duanshaolong> who can tell me where i can download the c++
[12:31] <muhammed> hi
[12:33] <apparle> how to configure environment variables
[12:33] <apparle> !rc
[12:33] <apparle> !env
[12:33] <apparle> !environment
[12:36] <makdaknife> apparle: what are you trying to do?
[12:36] <makdaknife> apparle: in bash just do: ENV-VARNAME="value"
[12:36] <makdaknife> apparle: that sets it
[12:37] <makdaknife> apparle: e.g. DISPLAY=":0"
[12:37] <apparle> I want to do it permantly
[12:37] <pedro> hi
[12:37] <makdaknife> apparle: put it into your bashrc
[12:38] <apparle> makdaknife: there is nice tutorial on that on help.ubuntu.com I am looking for that
[12:40] <makdaknife> apparle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[12:42] <apparle> makdaknife: exactly...............thanks
[12:43] <afeijo> hi
[12:43] <makdaknife> apparle: no problem... thank google
[12:43] <afeijo> apt-get cant install partitionmanager, what server do I need to add?
[12:43] <afief> Hello, I tried upgrading from kde4.2 to 4.3 on jaunty, but I'm getting the following dependency problem: http://pastebin.com/m323cb82c
[12:44] <afief> please anybody? I'm stuck with some stuff from 4.2 and some from 4.3, and a big mess
[12:45] <apparle> afief: install this package kdepim-groupware
[12:46] <afief> apparle: that gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/mbaff7c
[12:48] <afeijo> how can I install partitionmanager ?
[12:48] <chill3> hi how do i set my keyboard to german by editing a config?
[12:49] <afeijo> hmmm how to enable component universe?
[12:49] <chill3> edit the source.list
[12:49] <chill3> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <afeijo> checking
[12:50] <chill3> http://warren.guy.net.au/docs/ubuntu-enabling-universe-multiverse-repositories.html
[12:50] <chill3> afeijo: http://warren.guy.net.au/docs/ubuntu-enabling-universe-multiverse-repositories.html
[12:51] <afeijo> chill3: done, thanks!
[12:51] <chill3> :-)
[12:51] <chill3> use google "enabling universe"
[12:51] <afief> Can anybody help me with this failed upgrade to 4.3?
[12:52] <afeijo> chill3: google could think that I was playing god? :p
[12:52] <chill3> I don't get the point
[12:52] <afeijo> chill3: jk, god made the universe LOL
[12:53] <chill3> lol
[12:58] <chill3> how do I change my keyboard layout?
[12:59] <apparle> can I install firefox 3.5 from repositories??
[13:00] <Pici> !ff35 | apparle
[13:03] <chill3> exit
[13:09] <theoneasking> hi. I am in need of some assistance. this here is not 1 simple question, it is a rather long journey. It all starts with fixing microphone, but There are allot of small issues on the way. First of all. I have found a temporary way to fix mic which involves deactivating drivers, rebooting, then activate them again without rebooting. Now when running lsmod when the microphone is working I get this output "ctxfi"  84136 "used by" 3 , whil
[13:09] <theoneasking>  running lsmod when mic is not working i get "used by" 2 at the same line. anyone able to join me on this journey ?
[13:11] <theoneasking> i'm sorry. when mic is working it is used by 2
[13:11] <theoneasking> that means opposite to what i typed above
[13:11] <theoneasking> cmon folks, dont be lazy :) been posting for 2 days now
[13:24] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[13:35] <lyhana8> hi, what do you advice to replace superkaramba on KDE4 ? any apps can use the superkaramba theme ?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:00] <GeminiDomino> Quick question (google wasn't much help): Does Kubuntu Jaunty include pulseaudio out of the box, or is that just a vanilla gnome-thing?
[14:01] <eMyller> GeminiDomino: it goes natively, afaik
[14:03] <GeminiDomino> eMyller: I'm not sure what you mean.
[14:03] <eMyller> GeminiDomino: do u wanna know if it's installed by some gnome stuff or comes with kubuntu itself?
[14:03] <GeminiDomino> It sticks with a native sound system, or it includes pulseaudio natively now?
[14:03] <GeminiDomino> With kubuntu itself.
[14:03] <GeminiDomino> I'm trying to get the hell away from it
[14:04] <eMyller> calm down
[14:04] <eMyller> pulseaudio is a fallback
[14:05] <eMyller> feel free to uninstall it
[14:06] <GeminiDomino> That's why I'm asking. It's proven to be somewhat sticky to do that in Ubuntu proper in my experience
[14:07] <eMyller> i'm not expert about it, it's just something i noticed. i might be worng, though.
[14:09] <GeminiDomino> Aright. Thanks.
[14:09] <GeminiDomino> That puts kubuntu on the short-list
[14:11] <goob> hi
[14:11] <makdaknife> hi goob
[14:13] <makdaknife> GeminiDomino: I've run kubuntu with and without pulseaudio
[14:13] <GeminiDomino> makdaknife: Which one is its default state?
[14:13] <makdaknife> GeminiDomino: pulseaudio can be useful... and it does help to integrate applications across the sound spectrum
[14:14] <GeminiDomino> It has been a massive charlie-foxtrot for me ever since Hardy shipped with a borked config.
[14:14] <makdaknife> GeminiDomino: I'm not sure... its been a while since I did a fresh install... I think that in Jaunty it is included by default, but I don't think there are any problems uninstalling it
[14:15] <GeminiDomino> All right, I'll give it a shot. Worst case, I wipe it again and try the KDE install of openSuse...
[14:15] <makdaknife> GeminiDomino: sound under linux can get notoriously tricky
[14:15] <GeminiDomino> indeed.
[14:15] <makdaknife> Good luck
[14:15] <GeminiDomino> and downright incompatible, it seems. :P
[14:16] <makdaknife> ha ha... well I've started using portaudio since it became capable of integrating Jack apps
[14:16] <makdaknife> sorry s/portaudio/pulseaudio
[14:17] <GeminiDomino> Never used that either. :)  Just when I get my mind around alsa they throw this at me. It's enough to drive you nuts. :)
[14:17] <GeminiDomino> But yeah, the pulseaudio + wine compatibility issues are a showstopper
[14:18] <makdaknife> GeminiDomino: hmmm I try to avoid wine for any audio stuff
[14:20] <BluesKaj> GeminiDomino, pulseaudio is the sounserver ,and alsa is the driver , when the soundserver falls back it's using the soundcard driver kernel module instead ..this is the planation I got when I expressed some confusion about this issue.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> expalantion
[14:20] <GeminiDomino> makdaknife: I use it for games. Kind of need audio. ;)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> I purged pulseaudio from my setup but it's still listed in system settings / multimedia and keep receiving "pulseaudio not working" messages when testing the audio.
[14:26] <SeanTater> Is there a way to get more choices in the GetHotNewStuff dialogs?
[14:26] <SeanTater> kde-look has a lot of wallpapers, but only a dozen or so show up in the dialog
[14:27] <eMyller> hey guys, some kde screenshots: http://twitpic.com/el1dy http://twitpic.com/el1gl
[14:55] <lara_> im using ubuntu
[14:56] <goob> me too
[14:56] <shadeslayer> lara_: me 3
[14:56] <lara_> its nice .. my first day
[14:57] <eMyller> kubuntu
[14:59] <vbgunz> anyone know why deleting a group in kopete doesn't work? I am connected to all accounts. when I delete a group it disappears *but* when I sign on again, they all come back. why?
[15:30] <Tirili> Hi!
[15:32] <Tirili> I'd like to start up the Kubuntu live cd on my Samsung R510 Laptop, but it doesn't work: After the blue bar is moving for a few minutes, the system restarts.
[15:32] <Tirili> There are no error messages or anything.
[15:32] <Tirili> Do you have a hint for me?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Tirili, what option are you choosing at the kubuntu boot menu ?
[15:38] <p3t3r> are you all speak english?
[15:39] <p3t3r> ...do you all speak english?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> !english | p3t3r
[15:47] <kidblooper> is there anyone in here using kubuntu on an Acer Aspire One that has been able to resolve problems with the atheros wireless network ?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !it | p3t3r
[15:48] <BluesKaj> kidblooper, no but my acer lappy has an atheros wifi card and I got working with wicd
[15:49] <kidblooper> BluesKaj Thank You ! i'll check into that now
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | kidblooper
[15:50] <kidblooper> sweet
[15:51] <BluesKaj> kidblooper, if you decide to install wicd , the kdenetwork manager will be removed when you choose to install wicd. There will bwe prompt asking you to
[15:51] <kidblooper> good deal
[15:51] <kidblooper> i'm searching for the download now
[15:52] <BluesKaj> should be in the repos
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude install wicd
[15:52] <kidblooper> ya it was just grabbed it with sudco
[15:52] <kidblooper> sudo
[15:53] <kidblooper> thanks a million.. this thing has been driving me nuts.. i tried madwifi but couldn't get it to install in this distro
[15:53] <BluesKaj> you'll have to configure it once , but then it keeps the settings
[15:54] <kidblooper> brb need to reboot
[15:54] <kidblooper> thanks again BluesKaj very helpful
[15:55] <BluesKaj> well thank me when it works for you :)
[16:02] <dfrey__> Why can't I use Meta+1 as a kwin keyboard shortcut?
[16:05] <Dragnslcr> Is something stopping you?
[16:09] <galvao> I'm using Kubuntu 9.04 and when I issue the command sudo iphone-mount I get the error "Please add yourself to the fuse group...". My user *is* already in the fuse group... Any ideas?
[16:14] <Dragnslcr> galvao- run the command 'groups', and if it doesn't list the fuse group, log out and log back in
[16:15] <galvao> Dragnslcr: It does list the fuse group :/
[16:17] <gintasdx> Anybody got GCC 4.x installed ?
[16:18] <galvao> Dragnslcr: Any other ideas/suggestions?
[16:21] <kaddi> hi, when I use the wastebin-widget or type "trash:/" into alt+f2 I get the error message "invalid address trash:/". However I can reach the wastebin fine entering the address in dolphin or konqueror. In #kde it was suggested I might be missing a handler for kio::trash, however they advised to ask here, how to restore that kio for kubuntu. Could anyone give me pointers?
[16:24] <kidblooper> BluesKaj Thank you very much wicd worked very nice
[16:28] <jannick> hey guys
[16:28] <jannick> what's up?
[16:30] <genii> kaddi: alt-f2 wants the name of an executable file to run, not an URL
[16:31] <kaddi> genii: entering "/tmp" into alt-f2 opens the /tmp-folder in dolphin though. Just try for yourself ;)
[16:31] <genii> kaddi: /tmp is a directory name. something://   <-- URL form
[16:33] <kaddi> genii:  actually I didn't know that "trash:/" would work, I still don't know. It was something I tested yesterday for the people in #kde to see if the kio worked. They gave me the impression that this should work.
[16:33] <kaddi> genii: However I don't mind to much if this works in alt-f2, the thing I want to work is the wastebin-widget
[16:36] <kaddi> genii:  from what I understand trash:/ is not a url but a kio, eg typing man:/ into alt-f2 works. (and yes /tmp was a bad exemple)
[16:36] <tsimpson> kaddi: when I enter trash:/ into alt-f2 it offers to open it in dolphin
[16:37] <tsimpson> actually, just "trash:" also offers that option
[16:38] <kaddi> tsimpson: trash:/ gives me the "invalid address: trash:/" error, whihc I would like to fix. As it is also affecting my wastebin-widget.
[16:38] <genii> Work required me briefly, apologies.
[16:38] <kaddi> tsimpson: trash: works though
[16:39] <genii> trash:// also works for me in the alt-f2. (although I had not tried this previously )
[16:42] <kaddi> so how do I get mine to work?
[16:43] <kaddi> is that a bug I should report? Or is this more a personal setting I can fixß
[16:43] <kaddi> ?
[16:45] <grongl> Can anyone help me with Karmic Koala WUBI installation?
[16:45] <grongl> I was using WUBI version of Kubuntu forever
[16:45] <grongl> Needed to reinstall
[16:45] <grongl> and now booting fails
[16:45] <genii> kaddi: Does: ls -ld ~/.Trash   show that folder to belong to the right user?
[16:46] <grongl> Aftrer choosing Kubuntu in Windows 7 boot menu
[16:46] <genii> grongl: #ubuntu+1 please
[16:46] <grongl> ***after
[16:46] <grongl> ok
[16:47] <tsimpson> trash should be ~/.local/share/Trash/
[16:47] <trenton> ok so i just started this ubuntu experience, i need a messenger that allows webcam?
[16:47] <kaddi> tsimpson: was just going to say that :p
[16:48] <kaddi> genii: drwx------ 4 kaddi kaddi 4,0K 2008-11-14 02:27 Trash//
[16:48] <trenton> or not
[16:48] <Pricey> trenton: msn messenger?
[16:48] <trenton> do those work with ubuntu
[16:48] <trenton> the only one that came on here was pidgin and i like it cause i can use all the messenger but theres no webcam support
[16:50] <trenton> ?
[16:51] <trenton> anyone here
[16:51] <tsimpson> trenton: try kopete, no IRC support, but it should be able to use a webcam
[16:52] <trenton> can i be honest, what does IRC mean?
[16:52] <kaddi> internet relay chat
[16:52] <tsimpson> this is IRC
[16:52] <tsimpson> what you're on now
[16:52] <trenton> yeah yeah, ok thats what i thought
[16:52] <trenton> does kopete allow you to use like different messengers all in one like pidgin
[16:53] <tsimpson> yes
[16:53] <trenton> your awesome, let me check it out
[16:54] <trenton> so is this just like a help desk chat, or what is this to be honest?
[16:54] <lyhana8> hi, why the heck does my touchpad doesn't work anymore on jaunty. It's was working fine on hardy :S
[16:56] <tsimpson> trenton: you are connected to the #kubuntu channel on the IRC network freenode.net, #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel. but there are many other channels on this network
[16:56] <tsimpson> !channels
[16:57] <trenton> what do you mean other channels, like other chat rooms?
[16:57] <tsimpson> yes
[16:58] <trenton> hmm very difficult, i wanna understand this but im just not i dont think
[16:58] <tsimpson> channels are like rooms, with different chat topics
[17:00] <trenton> I understand that. Where is a list of all the different channels or how do you view them?
[17:01] <kidblooper> trenton type /list
[17:01] <tsimpson> trenton: For a general list of freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[17:02] <tsimpson> the /list command can overload a connection, so avoid it
[17:02] <kidblooper> +1
[17:02] <snikker> hi, i've got a problem with the wireless card... i'm associated to AP, but i'm unable to ping nothing, i've got: "Destination Host Unreachable " i can ping only lan clients
[17:07] <lyhana8> anyone could help me with a missing touchpad after Jaunty install ?
[17:11] <_tristan_> hello, just install the ppa backport on a kubunut Jaunty, update and upgrade, and then reboot. I get a crash form knetworkmanager "No such signal NMWiredNetworInterface::connectionStateChanged..."
[17:11] <_tristan_> I'm now stuck on that box without network. Any idea?
[17:12] <gas> i can't use web cam( Can you help me?
[17:12] <lyhana8> try to use wicd
[17:13] <kaddi> just as a warning: to install wicd you need to uninstall the networkmanager.
[17:13] <trenton> i got the same problem as gas
[17:14] <_tristan_> well I'm really stuck, as I don't have any network at all on that box (ifup eth0 won't work neither)
[17:14] <_tristan_> I guess I can use the kubuntu CD to get wicd
[17:14] <kaddi> _tristan_: you can download wicd with another machine and transfer it or use your kubuntu cd if it is jaunty
[17:15] <kaddi> _tristan_: you could also try to uninstall knetworkmanager and install it from that cd as well, before you do your next upgrade remove the backport and it should work again
[17:15] <Bou> or just install wicd and enjoy networking.. the networkmanager seems a real pain for most kubuntu users unfortunately
[17:17] <_tristan_> my point in using the backport was to move from networkmanager (which is very bad indeed) to the new knetworkmanager...
[17:17] <kaddi> _tristan_: honestly I would go for wicd, it is cool, it works, it is awesome, and I like it ;)
[17:17] <Bou> +1
[17:18] <Bou> even if it still hope the knetworkmanager plasmoid will one day works correctly
[17:18] <_tristan_> ok thanks
[17:18] <_tristan_> that's a bit sad to here...
[17:18] <_tristan_> s/here/hear/
[17:20] <Bou> no, it would be sad if you had no alternative
[17:20] <trenton> tsimpson: What about a program just to use my webcam. LIke take pictures, videos, all that jazz.
[17:21] <tsimpson> trenton: there's a few mentioned on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[17:25] <_tristan_> ahrrrr, wicd is not on the kubuntu CD
[17:26] <kaddi> could someone explain to me what kio is exactly? Can I make my own or would I need to recompile kde for this?
[17:26] <kaddi> _tristan_: it should be starting from jaunty
[17:26] <kaddi> alternatively you can download it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/wicd/download
[17:29] <trenton> I was going to use Ekiga just to test my webcam to see if its even working but i cant figure that out. Is it the same process for a built in webcam?
[17:30] <_tristan_> starting form a blank source.list, an apt-cdrom add, apt-get update, apt-get install wicd says 'Package wicd is not available...'
[17:30] <arash> hi all
[17:30] <_tristan_> I guess I'll have to play with USB thumbs, I'm scared of running in infinite dependency loops though
[17:31] <arash> how can I uninstall and remove the entire partition for kubuntu in my machine ?
[17:31] <arash> I want free the space for Vista usage
[17:33] <adna> Just upgraded linux-headers to 2.6.28-15-generic. Now X is hosed...
[17:33] <Dragnslcr> arash- just remove or reformat the partition
[17:33] <adna> Is there a GUI for X configuration?
[17:33] <arash> i know but i dont know how
[17:35] <Dragnslcr> arash- you can use gparted or partitionmanager from a LiveCD
[17:36] <arash> and that space will be usable for windows? I mean windows can see that space ?
[17:37] <Dragnslcr> That's up to Windows
[17:46] <kid> hi, i cant get my laptop wake up after suspend to disk(sllep), i don't have this problem in ubuntu (gnome). I had this problem there before, but after i upgraded BIOS, no rpoblem in gnome,but in kubuntu, too many problems, fn key doesnt work, cant wake up affter sllep
[17:48] <kid> anybody here tried kubuntu on his laptop? (,y laptop is hp dv5 1155ee)
[17:54] <physic> helllo every oneeeeee
[17:54] <physic> iam new user of ubuntu
[17:54] <kaddi> hello :)
[17:55] <physic> its amzing operating system
[17:55] <kaddi> :)
[17:57] <alexbobp> does amarok 2's import feature ever actually work with mysql?
[17:57] <alexbobp> because it keeps telling me "Failed: no tracks imported"
[17:57] <alexbobp> and a few times it segfaulted
[17:57] <coreyman> how come i dont have kdesu after installing kdm
[17:57] <Bou> alexbobp: try #amarok ?
[17:58] <alexbobp> Bou: didn't know there was one, thanks
[18:02] <Dragnslcr> coreyman- did you try kdesudo?
[18:03] <coreyman> dragnslcr let me try
[18:03] <coreyman> dragnslcr oh nevermind i just uninstalled kde anyway
[18:04] <Dragnslcr> Mmmkay
[18:07] <lyhana8> hi, how could I enable my touchpad ?
[18:20] <anderson> hi mans... someone from brazil?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> !pt | anderson
[18:20] <Mamarok> !br | anderson
[18:20] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: :)
[18:21] <BluesKaj> hey
[18:36] <markus__> tagchen
[18:36] <kaddi> tag :)
[18:36] <kaddi> !de
[18:42] <dzmitry> how i can change gtk theme in kubuntu 9.04 kde 4.3 ? gtk-chtheme is not working =(
[18:43] <dzmitry> firefox always use qt-curve
[18:43] <kaddi> can you change it through systemsettings->appearence->gtk fonts and styles?
[18:44] <dzmitry> i dont have this in my systemsetings
[18:45] <kaddi> you don't have appearence or you don't have gtk fonts and styles?
[18:45] <dzmitry> i dont have gtk fonts and styles
[18:48] <kaddi> dzmitry:  try installing gtk-qt-engine and see if that option shows up afterwards
[18:54] <dzmitry> kaddi: it try's to install a lot of gnome packages. this is the only way to change gtk theme?
[18:55] <kaddi> dzmitry: the only way I know of. Maybe ask in kde, they might know something else
[19:31] <sonic> does anyone know what a SOR file is?  Something has gone screwy with my External HD and I have about 460Gb of SOR files named weird random charactors
[19:32] <sonic> They were not there last night
[19:32] <sonic> they have dates like 12/30/35 and 06/01/18
[19:39] <sonic> #join kde
[19:41] <BluesKaj> sonic, /join #kde
[19:41] <sonic> I just did
[19:41] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:50] <kaddi> bye
[19:59] <BluesKaj> Tonio_, that's an interesting IP : smtpin.revolutionlinux.com
[20:05] <steffen> hi @all
[20:06] <steffen> i need some help can anybody help me please?
[20:06] <hedin> evening everyone... when i start from the 9.04 cd, can i then choose between kde-3.5 and kde-4?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> hedin, no, kde4 is default on 9.04, you can choose it later if you wish.
[20:09] <BluesKaj> it=kde3.5
[20:09] <steffen> hello?
[20:10] <steffen> can anyone explain me how is install the apache2.0
[20:10] <steffen> ?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> !ask | steffen
[20:11] <steffen> sorry
[20:11] <BluesKaj> !apache
[20:13] <hedin> BluesKaj: okay, thanks :)
[20:42] <apparle> please suggest a dictionary which doesnot connect to internet
[20:43] <llutz> apparle: ding
[20:43] <apparle> !info ding
[20:43] <apparle> hey what's up with ubottu why not replying
[20:44] <apparle> llutz: does it have hotkey support??
[20:45] <llutz> apparle: sry i don't know
[20:45] <apparle> llutz: you know kde based program??
[20:46] <llutz> nope
[20:46] <VoipJunky> wow I got dropbox work ing on linux
[20:46] <VoipJunky> so nice to have it
[20:48] <llutz> apparle: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDing?content=28386
[20:55] <apparle> llutz:  can you tell me the diffrence in short
[20:55] <apparle> and man page of what....apt-get
[20:55] <llutz> apparle: read man-page , 3 lines
[20:55] <llutz> man apt-get
[20:57] <apparle> llutz: so when we actually want to uninstall anything....we must purge it??
[20:57] <llutz> yes
[21:15] <norpan111> how do i intsall kvirc?
[21:15] <norpan111> I cant find a solution
[21:17] <elitrou> norpan111: is it in the repositories?
[21:17] <CoJaBo-A1tec> norpan111: apt-get install kvirc ?
[21:17] <norpan111> CoJaBo-A1tec,  its there? oh okey thanks
[21:18] <norpan> kvirc or konversation???
[21:18] <norpan> :O
[21:23] <norpan111> omagod
[21:24] <norpan111> kvirc has no themes
[21:24] <norpan111> and looks like shit
[21:24] <FloodBotK2> norpan111: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <VoipJunky> its in the apps
[21:49] <LuisJa> hello, i just downloaded download helper for firefox, i have a problem: it says it need aplications than are not in my system, what is the command to download this?
[21:56] <LuisJa> hello i need the flash player plugin for firefox, whats the command to install it pls?
[21:56] <LuisJa> hello?????
[22:02] <LuisJa> HELLO!?
[22:02] <LuisJa> no one can help????
[22:02] <LuisJa> command for flash plugin????
[22:02] <VoipJunky> install adept and then hunt and install it\
[22:02] <VoipJunky> its in the pkgs
[22:03] <VoipJunky> have you not learn to install the pkg from appslike kpackager
[22:03] <VoipJunky> and adept
[22:03] <LuisJa> dude wtf i can know about all this
[22:04] <LuisJa> explain me more pls
[22:04] <LuisJa> i will thank u a lot
[22:04] <VoipJunky> you ar inth gui/desktop right
[22:04] <LuisJa> yeh
[22:04] <VoipJunky> in the apps where the k is on the start bar
[22:04] <LuisJa> yeh
[22:05] <VoipJunky> goto system
[22:05] <VoipJunky> and kpackageit
[22:05] <VoipJunky> and then use the tool to install pkgs
[22:16] <Nisok> Hi to ALL
[22:31] <Guest72669> hi
[22:31] <anoneemouse> hi Guest72669
[22:31] <mitchy> sorry stupid thing changed my name
[22:32] <mitchy> my name is mitch
[22:32] <anoneemouse> ok... hi mitchy
[22:33] <mitchy> wats kdes big obsession with the letter K. like seriously it pisses me off,everyprogram has to either start with k or end with k
[22:33] <anoneemouse> i dont know...
[22:34] <mitchy> its stupid
[22:34] <anoneemouse> but it seems to be changing
[22:34] <anoneemouse> dolphin and plasma are examples of that
[22:34] <mitchy> oh thank god
[22:34] <mitchy> go plasma
[22:34] <mitchy> ive themed my plasma so it looks like windows 7
[22:35] <mitchy> looks awesome
[22:35] <anoneemouse> ive themed mine so it looks like... err i dont know... but i like it
[22:35] <mitchy> lol
[22:35] <anoneemouse> looks like my wallpaper
[22:36] <anoneemouse> so do apple products also piss you off?
[22:36] <anoneemouse> ipod... ichat ithis ithat?
[22:38] <mitchy> lol, mac sux too,but the actual imacs are awesome. triple boot mac,winxp and linux.it will be madd
[22:38] <anoneemouse> i wish i didnt have to dual boot
[22:39] <mitchy> no monitor. avarything u need in one lightweight -2kg comp
[22:39] <mitchy> yeah
[22:39] <anoneemouse> but sadly linux can only do 1% of the things i need to do with a computer
[22:40] <mitchy> i mainly use linux if xp is givin me shit and acting slowly.i want things to act fast.thats why i choose linux
[22:41] <anoneemouse> weird... kubuntu is dog slow for me
[22:41] <anoneemouse> it crashes about as often as windows 98
[22:41] <mitchy> wat kind of comp are u usin
[22:41] <mitchy> pentium 1
[22:41] <anoneemouse> athlon xp 4200+ 1 gig ram geforce le 7300
[22:42] <mitchy> im runnin mine on a celeron 2.6ghz,512mb ram,radeon 9500 and 20 gb hd
[22:42] <anoneemouse> maybe i shouldn't have installed 64 bit kubuntu
[22:42] <mitchy> no wonder
[22:43] <anoneemouse> have you tried it?
[22:43] <mitchy> nah,my processor doesnt support 64 bit
[22:43] <anoneemouse> the irony is your computer is probably running faster than mine
[22:44] <mitchy> lol
[22:44] <mitchy> got to go,school. its 0745 in australia. wat tim iz it in urs
[22:44] <anoneemouse> 23:44
[22:44] <mitchy> gees,go to bed
[22:45] <mitchy> ok cya
[22:45] <anoneemouse> bye
[22:55] <dsmith_> how can I updated vlx  to version 1 with kubuntu 8,04?? is there a deb file I can run
[22:55] <dsmith_> vlc, I mean
[22:55] <Oceanwatcher> Can anyone tell me what app I can use in Kubuntu to format a USB stick? (No cli please).
[22:56] <dsmith_> !vlc
[22:56] <dsmith_> !codecs
[22:57] <QuantumKaos> why no cli?
[22:57] <QuantumKaos> Oceanwatcher: why no cli? just open a terminal and type this      sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sd**        is the easiest thing in the worldf
[23:01] <Oceanwatcher> Yeah... For you. Not for anyone I need to teach. Lets not get into that discussion. CLI is not the easiest thing in this case. Right-click format in Dolphin should be the right way to do it, but no such luck. When you do this once in a blue moon, you have to first find the instructions, then run a command to find what the drive is called - eh.. you have to find those instructions as well, then you can try to figure out the correct com
[23:01] <Oceanwatcher>  No. a gui is far better to do this :-) For anyone that lives and breathes CLI, it is not a problem. But there is no reason why I or anyone else should have to become CLI ninjas... I guess I will boot into Windows and do it. It is actually faster! First Windows boot in 2 months :-D
[23:02] <Oceanwatcher> Unless anyone can suggest a GUI program for Linux?
[23:04] <QuantumKaos> Oceanwatcher: sorry to say that but ur not a good teacher if u keep ur students from learning the basics and prefer em to do such a simple task with a gui...
[23:06] <Oceanwatcher> I am not keeping anyone FROM learning it, I am just not FORCING them to do it, and for someone that do not think the computer is the end of things, it makes a lot of sense. A computer is just a tool to do a job. Someone that want to write a book usually do not care the least about what goes on inside the computer. A computer should just work. Turn it on, start OpenOffice and write.
[23:06] <Oceanwatcher> Anything CLI for a person like this is wasted time.
[23:06] <robin0800> Oceanwatcher: there is a always kparted
[23:06] <Oceanwatcher> They need to read mail, check things on the internet.
[23:07] <Oceanwatcher> Thank you. Probably what I need.
[23:07] <Oceanwatcher> I will Google for it.
[23:09] <bazhang> !info partitionmanager
[23:09] <bazhang> Oceanwatcher, ^^
[23:09] <Oceanwatcher> Thanks!
[23:11] <Oceanwatcher> bazhang: Thanks. Installing now :-)
[23:11] <sumo_su> i can't mount my ntfs drives anymore. i didnt modify anything... no error message exept "unable to mount volume". what could be the problem?
[23:13] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: letz see ur fstab
[23:14] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: its not in the fstab. im trying to hotmount the drives by clicking places... (this used to work, ubuntu here)
[23:14] <QuantumKaos> letz see ur "mount" first and then ur fstab
[23:15] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: !pastebin
[23:17] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: sorry ive got stuff to do, ur not replying, bye
[23:17] <sumo_su> sorry im pasting
[23:18] <sumo_su> http://paste.ubuntu.com/256564/
[23:22] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: first of all make a back-up file of ur fstab so if what we're about to try screws it up u can restore it from it
[23:23] <sumo_su> i didnt have entries for it in the fstab before...
[23:23] <Oceanwatcher> bazhang: Worked like a charm :-) Wonder why it is not a part of the standard install...
[23:24] <bazhang> Oceanwatcher, glad to hear :)
[23:25] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: after backupping substitute to this line "ext4 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1" this other one "ext4 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1" save and close
[23:25] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: this done letz see ur "mount" again
[23:25] <sumo_su> k.....
[23:28] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: sorry, even better letz see ur "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:29] <xsebsx> help, usually i plug in my cellphone to my laptop to transfer files from  and to the phone card
[23:29] <xsebsx> but for some reason when i plug it now
[23:29] <xsebsx> it's not detecting the phone
[23:32] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: plug it in and type lspci
[23:33] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: have u done?
[23:34] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: would i have to reboot to activate the new fstab?
[23:35] <xsebsx> QuantumKaos: http://pastebin.ca/1536998
[23:35] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: it depends
[23:36] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: letz see ur sudo fdisk -l
[23:36] <sumo_su> http://paste.ubuntu.com/256568/
[23:36] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: here it is Bus 001 Device 014: ID 0fce:e0f3 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB , which means kubuntu sees it
[23:37] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: but it doesnt automatically mount it
[23:37] <QuantumKaos> so u need to manual mount it
[23:37] <xsebsx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975622&page=3
[23:37] <xsebsx> how do i open that file QuantumKaos?
[23:38] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: how many hd's do u have? and how many so's u own??'
[23:38] <xsebsx> /etc/udev/rules.d/
[23:38] <xsebsx> from the terminal
[23:38] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: 1hd. whats an so?
[23:38] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: why do u need to open it?
[23:39] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: i meant os
[23:39] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: 2 osses
[23:39] <xsebsx> look at the thread
[23:39] <xsebsx> /etc/udev/rules.d/
[23:39] <xsebsx> er
[23:39] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: alright uve got 1 hd but many partitions right?
[23:39] <xsebsx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975622&page=3
[23:39] <sumo_su> right
[23:40] <Psi-Jack> Great!
[23:40] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: it tells u to copy stuff in there not to open it, thus u need to do "cp stuffuwanttocopy /etc/udev/ruled.d/"
[23:41] <Psi-Jack> Now my mouse won't move into my left monitor screen, and keeps wrapping back around to the other side of the second monitor!
[23:41] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: so which one is the unmountable hd? the one thatz giving u trouble? cuz im kind of confused now
[23:41] <sumo_su> the ntfs ones. 1 and 5
[23:42] <xsebsx> QuantumKaos: sebastian@jaunty:~$ cp 60-persistent-storage.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[23:42] <xsebsx> cp: cannot stat `60-persistent-storage.rules': No such file or directory
[23:42] <xsebsx> sebastian@jaunty:~$
[23:42] <QuantumKaos> Psi-Jack: throw that piece of junk away and bye a new one
[23:42] <xsebsx> i have both files on my desktop, do i have to specify something?
[23:42] <axiom> Anybody using KDEmicrobloging, formerly known as KDEtwitter?
[23:42] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: sudo? -_-
[23:42] <Psi-Jack> QuantumKaos: Umm.. Don't talk to me like that jerk!
[23:43] <xsebsx> same output QuantumKaos
[23:43] <Psi-Jack> QuantumKaos: Seriously, how effing rude.
[23:43] <axiom> Mine crashes everytime I try to change the settings.
[23:43] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: so what is actually not recognizing? cuz if ur using the system thatz on the only hd u have itz actually mounting it, could u be more precise please?
[23:43] <xsebsx> am i not specifying where they are?
[23:43] <xsebsx> QuantumKaos
[23:43] <axiom> It won't show my friends, it only shows me.
[23:43] <xsebsx> how do i mount it manually?
[23:44] <QuantumKaos> Psi-Jack: could u go playing in the kindergarden with the other kids? we're trying to help ppl who have serious probs here, thanks
[23:44] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: when i try to hotmount any of the ntfs partitions via mouse it tells me "cannot mount volume"... no error message
[23:44] <Psi-Jack> QuantumKaos: What a jerk.
[23:45] <Psi-Jack> I /HAVE/ a problem, and you tell me to throw my "junk" away.
[23:45] <Psi-Jack> What kind of fracking "help" is that?
[23:45] <Psi-Jack> Go piss yourself, jerk.
[23:45]  * nositelicense blinks & yawns
[23:45] <Psi-Jack> I swear.
[23:45] <Psi-Jack> The problem is either in X or KDE.
[23:45] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: the weird thing is that i havent made any changes to the system, it just stopped working (possibly after some updates)
[23:45] <QuantumKaos> Psi-Jack: please...
[23:46] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: you want me to reboot with the new fstab settings?
[23:46] <Psi-Jack> I have dual-screen, and my mouse is currently "stuck" in the left monitor, and when I try to move it to the right monitor, it bounces all the way back to the rightmost side of the right screen, instead of passing over.
[23:46] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: open another terminal and type "dmesg" then go to the other one and re-do what u were doing, letz see what output it gives
[23:46] <Psi-Jack> This is with seperate-screen configured Xinerama displays,
[23:46] <xsebsx> QuantumKaos:  how do i manually mount it?
[23:47] <QuantumKaos> Psi-Jack: dont u understand ur mouse is just broken? thatz what i first said, ur mouse itz a laser one and itz gone, 10 pounds u can buy a new one, go for it
[23:47] <Psi-Jack> It's NOT the fracking mouse.
[23:47] <Psi-Jack> The mouse works perfectly find.
[23:47] <Psi-Jack> fine*
[23:48] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: keep following that procedure u showed me, if that doesnt work we'll try to manually mount it
[23:48] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: ah it tells me about ntfs-3g .... segfault something
[23:48] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: post it here
[23:48] <sumo_su> just the interesting bit?
[23:49] <xsebsx> QuantumKaos: i already tried
[23:49] <QuantumKaos> no, pastebine the last lines
[23:49] <Psi-Jack> It's even more annoying tghat I can SEE the mouse cursor on the other screen. heh
[23:49] <Psi-Jack> Taunting me.
[23:49] <xsebsx> here's what i did: i downloaded the files, i got them out of the tarballs into the desktop, i changed the name and then i entered those commands you toldme to copy on the terminal
[23:49] <xsebsx> and i got hte following output
[23:49] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: 4 lines saying something like "46.341374] mount.ntfs-3g[3245]: segfault at 81851a7c ip b7fb522f sp bfacf208 error 6 in ld-2.9.so[b7fb3000+1c000]"
[23:49] <QuantumKaos> alright Psi-Jack, i cannot help u and it doesnt seem there's anyone who can here, so please leave space to these other 2 dudes
[23:49] <xsebsx> cp: cannot stat `60-persistent-storage.rules': No such file or directory
[23:49] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: use PASTEBIN please!
[23:50] <QuantumKaos> xsebsx: type here the whole command, what r u actually trying to copy in there?
[23:51] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/256572/ there ya go:)
[23:51] <Psi-Jack> Okay. In that case. What are these two dudes' problems? I might be able to solve it in a matter of seconds.
[23:51] <xsebsx> sebastian@jaunty:~$ sudo cp 65-persistent-storage-rules /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-rules
[23:51] <xsebsx> cp: cannot stat `65-persistent-storage-rules': No such file or directory
[23:52] <xsebsx> QuantumKaos: I am trying to copy those files i downloaded as stated i should do in that thread
[23:52] <QuantumKaos> Psi-Jack: go for it, so i can finally leave :D
[23:52] <QuantumKaos> guys guys listen up
[23:52] <QuantumKaos> i leave u in the hands of the Master
[23:52] <xsebsx> i downloaded the tars and then pasted the files on the desktop
[23:52] <Psi-Jack> Okay.
[23:52] <QuantumKaos> all ur probs are gonna be solved by the divine Psi-Jack, u can ask him help
[23:52] <QuantumKaos> cya
[23:52] <Psi-Jack> First up. sumo_su.
[23:53] <Psi-Jack> What's your issue?
[23:53] <sumo_su> QuantumKaos: thanks for your help!
[23:53] <sumo_su> i'm unable to mount my ntfs partitions
[23:53] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: Okay. What version, (not name!) of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:53] <sumo_su> 9.04
[23:54] <sumo_su> have a look at the last 4 lines of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/256572/
[23:54] <Psi-Jack> Roger. And what edition of Windows formatted it? 2000? XP? Vista? 2003?
[23:54] <sumo_su> xp
[23:54] <sumo_su> it used to work. it simply doesnt anymore since tuesday
[23:55] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: Okay. First glance, it looks like mount.ntfs has somehow become corrupted. What filesystem is / under?
[23:55] <sumo_su> ext4
[23:55] <Psi-Jack> Okay.
[23:55] <Psi-Jack> !find mount.nfs-3g
[23:56] <Psi-Jack> Ugh
[23:56] <Psi-Jack> !find mount.ntfs-3g
[23:56] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: Try apt-get purge ntfs-3g
[23:56] <e370> whats the Ubuntu Global Jam
[23:56] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g
[23:56] <Psi-Jack> Then apt-get install ntfs-3g
[23:56] <sumo_su> k...
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: Should be pretty quick to do that, so I'll wait.
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx: Okay, while waiting, what is your isssue?
[23:57] <bazhang> Psi-Jack, its already installed
[23:57] <kavurt> why some updates are blocked in Kubuntu?
[23:57] <bazhang> standard on Jaunty
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> bazhang: I know. I'm having him REMOVE and REINSTALL it, due to possible filesystem corruption
[23:58] <sumo_su> ok done...
[23:58] <sumo_su> works!!!
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> Okay, now mount your ntfs volume./
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> See?
[23:58] <sumo_su> YAY! youre the best!
[23:59] <Psi-Jack> Dang right I am.
[23:59] <sumo_su> thanks a lot!
[23:59] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: This poses another issue, however.
[23:59] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: You have apparent corruption going on in your filesystem.
[23:59] <Psi-Jack> I would shutdown to singleuser mode, run a full e2fsck on it.
[23:59] <sumo_su> okay


[06:37] <angch> PSA: sudo do-release-upgrade is the correct way to upgrade outside of upgrading from installation media...
[08:42] <excalibr> I made a clean install on home machines and decided to embrace lvm after so much hesistation in the past


[06:04] <kklimonda> are there any http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com mirrors on the US west coast? I'm seeing transfer speeds of 200-300KB/s using the main location
[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:50] <albech> is there anything like selinux on ubuntu installed by default that could prevent connections to localhost services?
[10:07] <lordievader> Apparmor
[10:11] <albech> lordievader: can it be completely disabled for troubleshooting?
[10:49] <lordievader> No idea, sorry. My knowledge beyond the name is severely limited.
[10:56] <rbasak> albech: yes
[10:57] <rbasak> albech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[10:57] <rbasak> Complain mode is sufficient for troubleshooting (then it won't actually block stuff)
[12:48] <Odd_Bloke> kklimonda: I don't believe that there are, I'm afraid. :(
[15:01] <rbasak> nacc: what does it mean for importer.py:_update_devel_branches to be called with spi=None?
[15:04] <nacc> rbasak: i believe it is only used by --fixup-devel
[15:04] <nacc> rbasak: which can be dropped when we reimport
[15:07] <rbasak> nacc: I don't understand what _update_devel_branches is defined to do. I mean it obviously updates the devel branches, but under what circumstances does it do what?
[15:08] <rbasak> nacc: I'm here because I'd like to see what happens if the devel branches are also hard reset instead of extra merge commits added.
[15:08] <nacc> rbasak: can we chat in the standup? or just after onn irc? nneed to make coffee
[15:08] <rbasak> Sure
[15:09] <rbasak> I'm having dinner straight after the standup but can reappear after that.
[15:11]  * genii 's ears perk up at the mention of coffee, goes to make a pot
[15:13] <nacc> genii: :)
[15:13] <nacc> rbasak: thakns
[18:50] <keithzg> Huh, well that's weird, I updated a fileserver that hasn't been touched in a while and now resolv.conf isn't listing anything
[18:51] <keithzg> (updated and rebooted, I should say)
[18:52] <keithzg> I swear, resolvconf is more trouble than its worth :P
[18:55] <sionronin> keithzg, yep pretty sure resolv.conf gets reloaded after each reboot
[18:56] <sionronin> that or dhcp or some other service writes on reboot
[18:56] <sarnold> I think we're ditching resolvconf for future releases, no?
[19:07] <keithzg> sarnold: Oh, is it going to be handled by some systemd component or such? (Hopefully better than time is :/)
[19:08] <keithzg> sionronin: Oh yeah, definitely. Just normally it writes out some values, rather than merely the header which states that it was written out, hah, which isn't terribly helpful then
[19:12]  * keithzg is gonna reboot the server once people are home for the day and see if it happens again, then investigate further if so
[19:58] <keithzg> Boy, I do love unattended-upgrades, it really does make a sysadmin's life a lot easier :)
[20:02] <notdaniel> i hope that was sarcasm
[20:04] <dpb1> keithzg: :)
[20:09] <keithzg> It legitimately wasn't sarcasm!
[20:10] <keithzg> I can always disable unattended-upgrades if I want to, but I tend to at *least* put it to install security updates automatically.
[20:10] <notdaniel> i'm sure it is a great thing most of the time
[20:10] <notdaniel> it however was the bane of my existence for a while on aws
[20:11] <keithzg> fair enough
[20:11] <keithzg> I'll admit I don't have it enabled on my one EC2 instance
[20:13] <keithzg> All the little KVM guests at work, though, it just makes 'em hassle free


[14:42] <Pendulum> reminder, Cheri703 is going for membership in just over 5 hours and hopefully we can get a good group of testimonials and cheerers for her!
[20:18] <Pendulum> ahem, Cheri703 is up now in #ubuntu-meeting, come cheer for her!
[20:29] <Pendulum> congrats to Cheri703 on getting membership!
[20:29] <pleia2> yay Cheri703!
[20:29] <Cheri703> :)
[20:41] <Dolasilla> Cheri703, congrats!! :)


[00:47] <Myrtti> I wonder if anti is about mosques
[00:47] <Myrtti> not mosquitos
[00:48] <Pici> mostiques? mistakes? mousetweaks? something else?
[00:48] <Myrtti> judging his ident...
[00:48] <Pici> geoip says Morocco.
[00:51] <Pici> I guess we'll never know.
[00:52] <Myrtti> there's people coming into -fi on weird times, asking for assistance in English, because it's "a bigger channel"
[00:53] <Pici> Weird.
[00:53] <Myrtti> I must have teleported into neverNeverland
[01:27] <elky> aaaaaaand they notice the lart disappearance
[01:28] <elky> dabid PM'd me to ask
[01:34] <Pici> I'm glad it was turned off,  it was getting annoying
[02:00] <elky> Pici, well yeah, they were using it as proxied emoted violence
[03:24] <KB1JWQ> Lordarko was having a meltdown in #ubuntu, I gave him a ten minute quiet.
[03:24] <KB1JWQ> No ops were about.
[03:24] <Flannel> No worries
[06:57] <jussi01> Morning all
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[08:27] <highvoltage> good morning dholbach
[08:28] <dholbach> hi highvoltage
[09:01] <elky> should we just ban-forward the nick traveler* to here?
[09:02] <elky> like srsly.
[09:08] <elky> heh, immediately before that he joined my lug's channel to tell us we suck
[09:53] <bazhang> trolling in +1 as well
[10:34] <ikonia> would someone be a trooper and remove by forward in #ubuntu please
[10:36] <bazhang> ikonia, welcome back and done :)
[10:36] <topyli> ikonia, oh. i tried to but apparently failed
[10:36] <ikonia> thank you
[10:36] <topyli> there was also a forward in place for -irc
[10:36] <ikonia> oh really ?'? that let me straight back in
[10:36] <ikonia> I guess I evaded that
[10:37] <bazhang> hehe
[10:37] <topyli> heh
[10:37] <ikonia> close enough for me to manually fix
[13:22] <jussi01> ikonia: has someone removed your -women one also?
[13:43] <ikonia> ooh no, good spot
[13:43] <ikonia> yes they have
[13:43] <ikonia> sorry
[13:45] <jussi01> ikonia: I just did it before that :D
[13:51] <ikonia> ahh, thank you
[17:12] <Myrtti> eh
[17:12] <Myrtti> someone just pm'd me with "m/f?"
[17:13] <Pici> Weird.
[17:15] <mneptok> "I don't use MySpace *or* Facebook."
[17:15] <highvoltage> rofl
[17:16] <highvoltage> well I use facebook so I guess that makes me an f.
[17:22] <Myrtti> !mk
[17:22] <Myrtti> right, there is no macedonian factoid
[17:22] <Pici> and google translate is having no luck translating that.
[18:03] <Pici> concidered.
[18:03]  * Myrtti pulls her dictionary
[18:03]  * Myrtti pulls her coffee thermos
[18:04] <Pici> How about http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/ping.html
[18:06] <Tm_T> how about no answer?
[18:06] <Pici> thats evil
[18:06] <Tm_T> ...why I'm laughing ):
[18:11] <topyli> well, it would either be "ping is networking program that uses the ICMP protocol's mandatory ECHO_REQUEST datagram to elicit an  ICMP  ECHO_RESPONSE from a host or gateway, for more information, see http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/ping.html"
[18:11] <topyli> either that, or Tm_T's suggestion, which i also like
[18:13] <Myrtti> !scope > LzrdKing
[18:17] <Myrtti> !ping
[19:42] <jussi01> !-ping
[19:42] <jussi01> !ping is <reply>pong
[19:42] <jussi01> !no, ping is <reply>pong
[19:42] <mneptok> pffffft  :(
[19:43] <Pici> boooring
[19:44] <jussi01> that is the point...
[20:40] <Myrtti> doesn't fit the pattern
[20:40] <ikonia> looking
[20:40] <Myrtti> the realname isn't the same as the onjoin spammers we've had recently
[20:43] <ikonia> I got no join spam
[20:44] <Myrtti> me neither
[20:44] <Myrtti> did he tell you what the onjoin spam message was?
[20:46] <ikonia> he didn't log it
[20:47] <Myrtti> well Alvaritooo seems legit now
[21:11] <Myrtti> !pm > AlVaRiToOo
[21:43] <Trek> who manages ubottu?
[21:44] <Trek> as in its configuration
[21:44] <Myrtti> there's couple of people doing it, why?
[21:48] <Trek> i'm wondering what config was needed in its code to make pipes and redirects ( | and > respectively) operate correctly, the staff of #amberlamp are trying to incorporate some of the features that we see in ubottu into our bot there
[21:50] <Trek> i'm part of that group, and I've been helping out as part of the bot team there
[21:52] <pleia2> Trek: http://ubottu.com/ has the plugins and things
[21:53] <Trek> pleia2: yeah, i know, but sifting through the code and many many revisions to find the exact code is rough, and I"m not a fan of copying files right out from ubottu's nose
[21:53] <Trek> under ubottu's nose *
[21:53] <Trek> wow, I'm type failing today
[21:54] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-bots would be the next stop
[21:58] <Trek> the bot managers are around in there, then?
[21:59] <Myrtti> and other intrested
[22:00] <Trek> alright, are they ever around then?
[22:01] <Myrtti> I should assume so
[22:07] <ikonia> amberlamp - isn't that spaceghosts web design company ?
[22:07] <ikonia> I think it is
[22:08] <Myrtti> good luck and godspeed
[22:08] <ikonia> yes it is
[22:24] <Trek> there's no live people around in #ubuntu-bots
[22:24] <Trek> :(
[22:24]  * Myrtti goes to look at her backlog for up-to-date information
[22:26] <pleia2> Trek: a number of the bot people are in europe, and it's late-o-clock over there, you'll probably have better luck tomorrow morning
[22:26] <Trek> yeah, i'll probably do that


[12:29] <elfy> zequence: are you not doing Beta 1 for vivid ?
[12:30] <zequence> elfy: Yes, we would like to
[12:30] <zequence> No notices on ubuntu-release, right?
[12:31] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityMilestoneProcess
[12:31] <elfy> oh yes there is :)
[12:31] <elfy> I know - I wrote it :p
[12:31] <elfy> oh bah - wrong link
[12:31] <zequence> I can't find it. Perhaps it's in my spam dir
[12:31] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta1
[12:31] <elfy> zequence: probably my spam filter thinks I'm spam too :D
[12:32] <elfy> 16th feb dated
[12:32] <elfy> I'll mark the wiki as yes for you
[12:33] <zequence> elfy: Ah, you named it Beta 2 :)
[12:33] <zequence> Thanks for notifying me
[12:35] <elfy> wiki's sorted


[18:11] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey superfly and others
[18:11] <magespawn> Evening all
[18:11] <Kilos> hi there magespawn
[18:13] <magespawn> Hey Kilos, talk about timing
[18:13] <Kilos> did you also just come online?
[18:13] <magespawn> Yup like a second before you
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Kilos> great minds think alike
[18:14] <Kilos> fools never differ
[18:14] <magespawn> Yup somwthing liie that
[18:14] <Kilos> hehe
[18:14] <magespawn> Like
[18:17] <magespawn> Looks loke the others are away/busy
[18:17] <magespawn> Like
[18:25] <inetpro> good morning
[18:34] <magespawn> Hey inetpro
[18:35] <inetpro> bye mag[tab]
[18:35] <inetpro> ahh... wb magespawn
[18:36] <magespawn> Ty
[18:36] <inetpro> why you say hi/hey and then leave?
[18:36] <magespawn> Did not even notice i was gone
[18:37] <magespawn> Network issues
[18:37] <inetpro> hmm... you have those also?
[18:37] <magespawn> Sometimes strange considering I live in South Africa
[18:38] <inetpro> lol
[18:41] <inetpro> "If A equals success, then the formula is A equals X plus Y plus Z. X is work. Y is play.  --  Albert Einstein
[18:41]  * inetpro likes that one
[18:46] <magespawn> Me too, I al3ays struggle with the last one though
[19:04] <superfly> hi Kilos, magespawn, inetpro
[19:04] <magespawn> Hey superfly
[19:04] <magespawn> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html
[19:05] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[19:06] <Kilos> sleep tight guys
[19:30] <inetpro> heh superfly
[19:33] <inetpro> magespawn: interesting link, thanks
[19:34] <charlvn> skipped over some parts but the video is very interesting too
[19:34] <charlvn> thanks Sub_Oracle
[19:34] <charlvn> aaaargh, superfly
[19:34] <charlvn> autocomplete fail again
[19:35] <charlvn> this is what i'm doing to Sub_Oracle : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6rRNANSgI
[19:35] <charlvn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxv2C5fplX8
[19:37] <magespawn> Np inetpro
[19:38] <charlvn> oh wait it was magespawn that posted that in any case :P thanks
[19:38] <charlvn> what happens when you try to eat dinner and irc at the same time
[19:44] <magespawn> Messy keyboard
[19:45] <magespawn> Got the link from one of my follows on twitter hacker  news bot I think
[19:45] <charlvn> that too but i use a paper towel to clean this thing every so often
[19:46] <charlvn> i don't like biological warfare on my computermaschine
[19:47]  * nuvolari chews off his wrists
[19:48] <nuvolari> anyone else experiencing vodacom snail-race?
[19:51] <magespawn> Luckily not tonight.
[19:55] <inetpro> nuvolari: get a yagi
[19:57] <magespawn> Would that make any differance to the speed?
[19:58] <inetpro> absolutely
[19:59] <inetpro> see http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/67899-External-Yagi-antenna-from-Poynting-Oh-yes!!!
[19:59] <magespawn> I thought it only helped with the connection
[20:00] <inetpro> Without an antenna I barely get 300kbps
[20:00] <inetpro> if I'm lucky
[20:00] <inetpro> with an antenna I get up to 5mbps
[20:02] <inetpro> and it helps with 8ta as well
[20:03] <inetpro> with an antenna my connection is relatively stable and consistently above 1mbps
[20:04] <magespawn> I see, I knew that it made your connection stable, did not know about the speed improvement.
[20:05] <inetpro> the only problem now is that if I'm not careful I pay through my ears
[20:06] <magespawn> Burning through the cap! Hah 1st world problems.
[20:07] <inetpro> wish I could get an affordable uncapped wireless connection
[20:08]  * Banlam gets 10GB from 8ta for a decent price
[20:09] <Banlam> although they have major coverage issues
[20:09] <inetpro> Banlam: I was hoping that by now we would have seen a drop in price by other mobile providers
[20:09] <Banlam> if you're not in a main city, no signal
[20:09]  * inetpro hates the long term commitment with 8ta
[20:09] <Banlam> mm
[20:09] <Banlam> true
[20:10] <magespawn> Did vodacom stop their 20 gig deal?
[20:10] <Banlam> I knew I was going to be here for th eyear, and had the money on hand, so decided to go for it.
[20:10] <inetpro> magespawn: long long ago
[20:10] <magespawn> That did not last long.
[20:10] <inetpro> now that was a very good deal
[20:11] <nuvolari> inetpro: it's not reception that's an issue, as I can very well get normal HSDPA speeds, but the last 3 weeks I've been lucky if I ever get a HSDPA/3G connection for loger than 20 seconds
[20:11] <nuvolari> then it falls back to gprs/edge indefinitely
[20:11] <Banlam> :(
[20:11] <inetpro> nuvolari: I know exactly what it feels like
[20:12] <inetpro> had the same issues at my place
[20:12] <nuvolari> and if it does change if I get something like a yagi, I'll call it fraud
[20:12] <inetpro> the only solution for me was to take matters in my own hands and get an antenna
[20:13] <inetpro> VC just took for ever to get back to me, always coming with more stories
[20:13] <magespawn> Seems like it happens now and then, some issues  here with one of the towers
[20:13] <nuvolari> yeh, @Vodacom111 didn't even respond after my last communication
[20:13] <inetpro> in fact I was lucky... a friend of mine had a spare antenna which I was able to test with
[20:14] <nuvolari> jislaaik ja, my dad got one from MTN (free btw, if you're in a location where reception is known to be bad, take that vodacom!), and it wooshed like mad! I was impressed
[20:19] <inetpro> nuvolari: I bet you somebody else in your area complained and as a result they move the antenna ever so slightly for this guy, affecting your signal
[20:19] <inetpro> or they installed another tower without proper HSDPA and you're getting that one because it's closer
[20:19] <magespawn> I have had that happen before as well
[20:20] <inetpro> either way they can not please everybody all the time
[20:20] <inetpro> or it's damn difficult, I guess
[20:21] <inetpro> a directional antenna should do the trick
[20:21] <inetpro> just find the towers in your area and point around until you find the best signal
[20:24] <nuvolari> "Some of the Google employees also requested removing Unity and Gnome 3 and using xmonad instead."
[20:24] <nuvolari> heh, nice post you shared there inetpro
[20:25] <inetpro> nuvolari: and an android phone can actually make your life very easy with all the signal info apps that are available
[20:26] <nuvolari> ooh, it can? I never tried those
[20:26] <nuvolari> any recommendation?
[20:27] <inetpro> nuvolari: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet&feature=search_result
[20:28] <inetpro> or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hotrod.utility.rfsignaltrackereclair&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ob3Ryb2QudXRpbGl0eS5yZnNpZ25hbHRyYWNrZXJlY2xhaXIiXQ..
[20:29] <inetpro> and signal finder is also very cool
[20:29] <inetpro> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.akvelon.signaltracker&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ha3ZlbG9uLnNpZ25hbHRyYWNrZXIiXQ..
[20:30] <inetpro> but I must warn that all these apps they eat battery
[20:31] <magespawn> What does not theses days?
[20:31] <nuvolari> magespawn: yeah, even keeping the phone off eats battery
[20:32] <magespawn> Everything has improved except the battery.
[20:32] <nuvolari> well,c ompared to my HTC Hero from 2 years ago, it improved by almost 1 day
[20:34] <nuvolari> ok, I'm off. groklaw to catch up on googacle then crashing
[20:35] <magespawn> My n900 lasts all of two hours if I turn everything on, but 3-4 days if I only use it for phone calls.
[20:37] <inetpro> I guess a portable battery for charging the battery on the go is what we need these days
[20:37] <inetpro> for charging the phone on the go*
[20:38] <inetpro> business opportunity
[20:38] <magespawn> That was with it plugged into a car charger
[20:38] <magespawn> Mmm have been looking into solar chargers.
[20:40] <inetpro> they say if you want to decrease the lifetime of your mobile's battery you should charge it with your car charger
[20:41] <magespawn> Well there we go.
[20:50] <magespawn> I am off to bed, night all.