[12:00] <synapsis_> phoghawk: : i see it, just going through the setup
[12:00] <NoUse> LaLO please don't paste
[12:00] <nalioth> LaLO: read the /topic. dont paste in here, please
[12:00] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: Breezy
[12:00] <thrush> chrisx1: have to leave for a few min sorry
[12:00] <rightc0ast> daminap, do you codec for win32? or plugin for an app like vlc?
[12:00] <LaLO> ok
[12:00] <chrisx1> ok mate np
[12:00] <rightc0ast> do you mean*
[12:00] <cratel1> how to congifure new hard disk in ubuntu linux machine
[12:00] <phoghawk> Tyrael_tc any solution I've ever seen is just replacing the pixmap for that specific image.
[12:00] <daminap> rightc0ast: i just need the plug in name
[12:00] <kookanurranz67> how can i view a 'mpg' file thru ubuntu?
[12:00] <LaLO> please help me
[12:01] <martix> phoghak: could yopu tell me how to modify it?
[12:01] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: thats gay... you know where it is by chance?
[12:01] <veloct> LaLO: what's the filesystem?
[12:01] <theblue> Hi all.
[12:01] <phoghawk> martix, hold on. Tyrael_tc, you too. lol
[12:01] <markl__> kookanurranz67: you might have to try installing something from a different source, perhaps VLC
[12:01] <LaLO> ext3
[12:01] <maddash> LaLO: what FS?
[12:01] <martix> ok thanks
[12:01] <rightc0ast> ok, well .mov are quicktime files and win 32 codecs wont run those, but im still confused, what do you mean plugin? a codec right?
[12:01] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: kk
[12:01] <theblue> Does anyone know of a way to recover files from a hard drive using the Hoary Live CD?
[12:01] <markl__> kookanurranz67: that is what i plan to do
[12:01] <synapsis_> i know this is a lame question, but how do i download mp3s?
[12:02] <theblue> synapsis_: From where?
[12:02] <LaLO> Im not sure, but i  think ext3
[12:02] <jatos> er you goto the MP3 site find the MP3 then you right click ...
[12:02] <kookanurranz67> VLC?  any good?
[12:02] <cratel1>  how can i connect new hard disk in my pc
[12:02] <theblue> synapsis_: From a peer to peer thing?
[12:02] <daminap> what is the name of the mov plugin?
[12:02] <synapsis_> theblue: yeah something similar to ares, or limewire
[12:02] <theblue> synapsis_: There's GiFT for that, I've never used it, but its in APT.
[12:02] <maddash> LaLO: type in "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:02] <phoghawk> martix, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:02] <theblue> cratel1: Ok, here's what you do:
[12:03] <theblue> cratel1: Is this an IDE hard disk/system?
[12:03] <maddash> Lalo, Dump your output to the pastebin
[12:03] <cratel1>  how can i connect new hard disk in my linux machine
[12:03] <rightc0ast> :\
[12:03] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, somewhere in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[12:03] <martix> phghawk: hmm let me try it
[12:03] <LaLO> FS is Linux
[12:03] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: kk
[12:03] <phoghawk> daminap, you'll have to install the w32codecs package
[12:03] <cratel1> yes i have IDE hard disk in my machine
[12:03] <xbox_sky> anyone managed to run a newsreader/web called "ninan" In ubuntu?
[12:03] <daminap> thanks through synaptic right?
[12:03] <theblue> cratel1: Ok, this is rather easy to do, just make sure you know how.
[12:03] <cratel1> but i want to add other hard of 300GB
[12:03] <phoghawk> daminap, assuming you have the repositories for it
[12:03] <veloct> LaLO: no the filesystem would be ext2 or ext3 or reiserFS
[12:03] <beginner1> good night
[12:04] <theblue> cratel1: Ok, now pick up the 300GB hard drive, and look at the back.
[12:04] <Siph0n> is there a hot key in ubuntu to start a terminal window?
[12:04] <phoghawk> Siph0n, I think it's F10 or something
[12:04] <maddash> LaLO: It's probably ext2 or ext3...here's what to do:
[12:04] <synapsis_> how can i transfer files from a usb drive?
[12:04] <daminap> yes but says its already in whats goin on
[12:04] <theblue> cratel1: You should notice a port with 4 big pins, one with lots of little pins, and a little 6 or 8 pin jumper port, which looks like the data port.
[12:04] <theblue> synapsis_: Just plug it in, Ubuntu will recognize it.
[12:04] <watnu> synapsis_: copy and paste
[12:05] <synapsis_> k thank you
[12:05] <phoghawk> Siph0n, turns out it's not, sorry. I think it may be one of the F keys though
[12:05] <Siph0n> k
[12:05] <Siph0n> thanx :)
[12:05] <maddash> Lalo: try "sudo mount /dev/****". in place asterisks type in your device name
[12:05] <cratel1> its maxtor dimaondmax 10
[12:05] <cratel1> its not ide hard disk
[12:05] <theblue> cratel1: ..
[12:05] <maddash> Lalo: what's the output?
[12:05] <ktogias_> Siph0n, System -> Preferencies -> Keyboard shortcuts
[12:06] <phoghawk> ktogias_, Good call
[12:06] <theblue> cratel1: Does it have 1) 4 big pins next to each other 2) a 39 or 40 pin connecter on the back, and 3) a little 6 or 8 pin port on the back?
[12:06] <cratel1> i connected SATA 150 TX@ card hard disk to my PC thaen i satrted my PC but was not working properly
[12:06] <LaLO> Cant find /dev/hdc5 in fstab
[12:06] <daminap> so then y wont the .mov files play now
[12:06] <cratel1> it was showing message loading ......
[12:07] <phoghawk> daminap, did w32codecs install well?
[12:07] <LaLO> Cant find /dev/hdc1 in fstab
[12:07] <daminap> it says theyre already in
[12:07] <theblue> cratel1: I don't know much about SATA, I can't really help you.
[12:07] <synapsis_> theblue: ok i hooked up the usb, however i don't know where to look for it
[12:07] <theblue> synapsis_: It should appear on the desktop.
[12:07] <maddash> LaLO: then do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:07] <theblue> synapsis_: Or under /media
[12:07] <maddash> Lalo: and edit it on your own
[12:07] <Siph0n> thanx ktogias_ and phoghawk :)
[12:07] <chrisx1> synapsis_, u talkin about usb memory stick?
[12:07] <LaLO> ok now its ok
[12:07] <maddash> Lalo: do you know the fields to fill in?
[12:08] <LaLO> ubuntu@dhcppc0:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[12:08] <LaLO> mount: tipo de sistema de ficheros '' desconocido
[12:08] <synapsis_> chrisx1: yes
[12:08] <phoghawk> daminap, try "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" then try to use totem to play a .mov file
[12:08] <cratel1> thanks theblue
[12:08] <chrisx1> im having problem with that to
[12:08] <theblue> cratel1: No problem.
[12:08] <synapsis_> theblue: not there =(
[12:08] <LaLO> file system '' I dont know
[12:08] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: lol not there...
[12:08] <theblue> synapsis_: odd. What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:09] <maddash> Lalo: you probably didn't edit your fstab correctly
[12:09] <maddash> Lalo, what does the line containing /dev/hdc1 say?
[12:09] <cratel1> does any one know about SATA 150 and dimond maxtor hard disk
[12:09] <folki> Can anybody say me how can I change keyboard in Ubuntu (in Win it is Shift+Alt)
[12:09] <synapsis_> theblue: newest
[12:09] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, for me there was an option to change your keyboard setup
[12:09] <theblue> synapsis_: So Breezy Badger?
[12:09] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: im the icon guy...
[12:09] <LaLO> /dev/hdc1 /lalo 0 0
[12:09] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: lol
[12:09] <daminap> phoghawk it says some stuff about locks not being able to unlock
[12:09] <maddash> Lalo: you did it wrong
[12:09] <phoghawk> foki, there's a applet for that
[12:10] <chrisx1> im running Hedgehog 1
[12:10] <synapsis_> theblue: no idea
[12:10] <phoghawk> daminap, you may have synaptic open
[12:10] <synapsis_> theblue: how can i tell
[12:10] <daminap> phoghawk should i be in root
[12:10] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok, are you in X now?
[12:10] <phoghawk> daminap, you can't have synaptic open when you apt-get. it's one or the other
[12:10] <daminap> oh yea i do hehe
[12:10] <theblue> synapsis_: Or the graphical part?
[12:10] <synapsis_> theblue: gui
[12:10] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok, that's X.
[12:10] <cratel1> any one familiar with SATA device
[12:10] <LaLO> ok wait
[12:10] <phoghawk> sorry tyrael_tc, lol. The only time I've successfully changed it was in Hoary, they may have changed it now.
[12:10] <sara_> hjello
[12:10] <NoUse> chrisx1 you may want to upgrade to breezy, the USB mounting got better with the upgrade
[12:10] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, let me look for it
[12:10] <mcphail> Does anyone have the link to the howto for installing 32bit apps (chroot) in the amd64 version?
[12:10] <sara_> i mean to say hello
[12:11] <folki> How can I change keyboard in Ubuntu, please?
[12:11] <bur[n] er> anyone out there use evolution with an exchange server successfully?
[12:11] <maddash> Lalo, the correct syntax is "/dev/hdc1   /lalo   ext3   defaults    0    0"
[12:11] <theblue> synapsis_: What I need you to do is hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, and it should tell you there.  Hit Alt-F7 to get back.
[12:11] <crimsun> folki: System> Preferences> Keyboard
[12:11] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: much appriciated
[12:11] <chrisx1> they send disks out for that?
[12:11] <chrisx1> or do i have to download?
[12:11] <kinkoblast> Does ubuntu not handle accented chars in file names?
[12:11] <NoUse> chrisx1 yeah
[12:11] <phoghawk> ubuntu people are so kind
[12:11] <theblue> phoghawk: That's our goal.
[12:11] <sara_> can anyone help me with an alsa sound problem?
[12:11] <chrisx1> kk
[12:11] <chrisx1> ill oreder some
[12:11] <chrisx1> *Order
[12:12] <djk_> kinkoblast: i'd assume that depends on your settings...
[12:12] <theblue> phoghawk: Much better than those call centers.
[12:12] <LaLO> ok
[12:12] <kinkoblast> djk_: hmm. on my friends computer, we were having trouble copying parts of the Animal Crossing sound track.
[12:12] <daminap> ok thanks phoghawk! =-)
[12:12] <LaLO> the error message is: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc5,
[12:12] <LaLO>  missing codepage or other error
[12:12] <LaLO>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:13] <folki> Is there any shortcut for change keyboard?
[12:13] <LaLO> dmesg | tail  or so
[12:13] <kinkoblast> djk_: A couple of K.K. Slider's songs have e' s and n~ s
[12:13] <maddash> Lalo, try again, except replace "ext3" in "/dev/hdc1   /lalo   ext3   defaults    0    0" with the correct filesystem (try "fat32" or "ntfs" or "ext2", etc)
[12:13] <NoUse> LaLO remember when we asked you to not paste?
[12:13] <maddash> LaLO: use the pastebin
[12:13] <LaLO> ok sorry
[12:14] <maddash> !tell LaLO about pastebin
[12:14] <phoghawk> folki, there is a GNOME panel applet I think. Right click on one of the panels and click: "Add to panel"
[12:14] <djk_> kinkoblast: check your locale if it supports it.
[12:14] <folki> I am a new user of Ubuntu (third day)...Is there some good manual or help or tutorial or something else which can help me with first steps?
[12:14] <NoUse> http://help.ubuntu.com
[12:15] <theblue> folki: The Wiki is useful: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:15] <maddash> LaLO: sorry, but I don't know how to find out the filesystem format of a partition other than through qtparted, which I don't assume you have
[12:15] <tyrael_tc> how do i register on freenode?
[12:15] <bur[n] er> tyrael_tc: /msg ns
[12:15] <maddash> LaLO: let me know if you got it working
[12:15] <kent> Noaires, folki the help.ubuntu.com is the same help as in System->help  (right?)
[12:15] <bur[n] er> tyrael_tc: actually.. /msg nickserv help
[12:15] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, I couldn't seem to find it either. I would post something in the forums and then wait. I'm sure someone has felt the need to mod the upper left corner of their screen
[12:15] <sara_> i cant get my asla sound working with my via motherboard, for some reason with every alsa package installed i cant get alsaconf to run
[12:16] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: its just so red. ot contrasts badly with my blueish theme
[12:16] <blueyed> LaLO: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/.." will list the partitions.
[12:16] <LaLO> it dont work
[12:16] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: thx
[12:16] <folki> thanks
[12:16] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, that makes sense
[12:16] <d-snp> :'(
[12:16] <phoghawk> folki, did you find it?
[12:16] <d-snp> it's so late and still nothing works
[12:16] <maddash> blueyed: I told him about fdisk already
[12:16] <LaLO> as ext3 and as ext2 it doesnt word
[12:16] <maddash> blueyed: the problem is we don't know the FS of the partition
[12:16] <LaLO> the command fdisk -l says I have a linux FS
[12:17] <phoghawk> How old are most of you guys?
[12:17] <phoghawk> or gals
[12:17] <theblue> 12.
[12:17] <maddash> LaLO: try "reiserfs"
[12:17] <veloct> should be ext2
[12:17] <phoghawk> theblue: impressive ;)
[12:17] <d-snp> 18, linux age: 3 days
[12:17] <LaLO> what ?
[12:17] <blueyed> LaLO: what's the Id before "Linux" in fdisk -l?
[12:17] <synapsis_> theblue: press alt-ctr-f1 left me in a prompt, i had no idea how to get back
[12:17] <theblue> linux age: 5 years.
[12:17] <theblue> synapsis_: Yes.
[12:18] <LaLO> 83
[12:18] <theblue> synapsis_: alt-f7 gets you back.
[12:18] <d-snp> :|
[12:18] <LaLO> id = 83
[12:18] <synapsis_> linux age: 2 days
[12:18] <folki> yes, I found it
[12:18] <theblue> synapsis_: What did the prompt say?
[12:18] <synapsis_> theblue: it said breezy
[12:18] <folki> is there help how to install software too?
[12:18] <d-snp> linux kills my inner child
[12:18] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok.
[12:18] <blueyed> LaLO: this is ext3 with me. But I'm not sure if ext2 has another Id. Probably not. Why is it important?
[12:18] <veloct> that's ext3 i think
[12:18] <synapsis_> d-snp: i'm right there wiht you buddy
[12:18] <phoghawk> theblue, since you were seven? wow. Props to you, my friend
[12:18] <theblue> folki: Type sudo aptitude at a command prompt.
[12:18] <veloct> ext2 is 82
[12:18] <theblue> phoghawk: Thanks.
[12:19] <Niomi> hi all. i have extra buttons on my mouse, how can i program them to do stuff?
[12:19] <maddash> veloct, blueyed: ext2/ext3 didn't work, read his messages
[12:19] <synapsis_> theblue: what were we trying to figure out before that?  i can't even remember why i went to find out
[12:19] <phoghawk> folki, help for installing software where?
[12:19] <blueyed> maddash: I've just entered.
[12:19] <folki> I need some help
[12:19] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok, one last time, try plugging your USB drive directly into the back of your computer.
[12:19] <folki> some manual
[12:19] <maddash> Lalo, did "reiserfs" work?
[12:19] <veloct> maddash: i realize that but 83 is ext3
[12:19] <theblue> ?
[12:19] <synapsis_> theblue: oh right the usb =)
[12:20] <maddash> blueyed, sans you then.
[12:20] <synapsis_> theblue: ok i'll plug it in again
[12:20] <LaLO> command not found
[12:20] <LaLO> says
[12:20] <maddash> veloct: true.
[12:20] <phoghawk> Niomi, it can be a pain in the but. If I remembered the file that allowed you do do this, I'd tell you. I remember that theres an article in the Ubuntu wiki about that. http://www.wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <synapsis_> theblue: k plugged in
[12:20] <synapsis_> oh
[12:20] <synapsis_> it found it this time
[12:20] <theblue> synapsis_: There we go.
[12:20] <d-snp> can't I just kill my firewall, it keeps saying I'm under attack
[12:20] <veloct> LaLO: try "sudo cfdisk" without the quotes, that should tell you
[12:20] <theblue> synapsis_: Need anything else?
[12:21] <synapsis_> theblue: yes, i would like to make a mp3 directory, but i'm unsure where to place it
[12:21] <d-snp> from ip's that are obviously the people I want to download from :(
[12:21] <theblue> synapsis_: In your home folder.
[12:21] <synapsis_> theblue: i don't want it off of my desktop or home directory, since i want my brother to beable to find it easily.
[12:21] <veloct> synapsis_ : just create a folder in your home folder
[12:21] <folki> i.e if I download some soft (extension .tar or .gz) what I should do if I want to install it?
[12:21] <theblue> synapsis_: Not sure.
[12:21] <LaLO> says error : cfdisk cant be open press enter to exit
[12:22] <gnomefreak> .tars have to be compiled right?
[12:22] <phoghawk> synapsis_, if you have an external HD, I'd put it there.
[12:22] <maddash> LaLO: did you use sudo?
[12:22] <synapsis_> phoghawk: unfortunately i don't have that option anymore, my last drive died
[12:22] <LaLO> yes
[12:22] <nalioth> gnomefreak: the things in them usually do, yes
[12:22] <ktogias_> folki, if it is source you unzipp it and read the README or INSTALL file...
[12:22] <synapsis_> would it be wise to put it in the / directory?
[12:22] <Niomi> phoghawk: i'll check it out, thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[12:22] <LaLO> ups
[12:22] <phoghawk> folki: you would untar it first, but after that there are many scenarios. I would reccomend using synaptic unless you absolutely can't for some reason
[12:22] <LaLO> error : the unit device cant be open
[12:22] <maddash> LaLO: what other programs are running? maybe they're accessing the HD at the moment...
[12:22] <LaLO> says
[12:23] <LaLO> press enter to exit
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Naliioth: ty
[12:23] <LaLO> onlu the irc
[12:23] <LaLO> only irc
[12:23] <fdr> synapsis_ : no, because for a number of reasons the root filesystem should be as small as possible
[12:23] <dell500> how do you get file transfer to work in gaim if you're behind a router?
[12:23] <veloct> hmmm, only should say that if you didn't use sudo
[12:23] <folki> phoghawk if I download some soft how can I install it?
[12:23] <sara_> i need sound help  wah wah
[12:23] <phoghawk> dell500, I've had troubles with this too, esp. with AIM. I've not found a solution
[12:24] <synapsis_> fdr: ok nice, i'm just gunna stick to throwing it into my home directory
[12:24] <phoghawk> sara_, that won't get you anywhere. Try asking a question
[12:24] <darksoul> doom3, can it run on ubuntu without wine or anything?
[12:24] <dell500> phoghawk, that sucks  :(
[12:24] <sara_> pho i did but i didnt want to get pushy
[12:24] <fdr> synapsis_ : if you feel like reading some docs, the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard should tell you where to put it
[12:24] <maddash> sara_: what's the problem?
[12:24] <veloct> darksoul: only if you buy the linux version, if there's one
[12:24] <phoghawk> darksoul, yes. Use a program called Cedega. I don't believe it's free however
[12:24] <tyrael_tc> sara_ indeed ask away
[12:25] <synapsis_> fdr: k thanks
[12:25] <sara_> i have all the alsa packages installed and pnptools but i cant get my sound working in ubuntu  (via motherboard)
[12:25] <maddash> Lalo: what's the message when you tried "ext3" ?
[12:25] <darksoul> phoghawk: i thought it came with built in support for linux..
[12:25] <veloct> Cedega is not free
[12:25] <d-snp> it is
[12:25] <d-snp> you can just download the source and compile it
[12:25] <tyrael_tc> sara_ does the alsa bind to the card?
[12:25] <fdr> synapsis_: you're welcome
[12:25] <LaLO> the same message for all FS
[12:25] <synapsis_> another question, after installing amarok, i've tried to run a mp3 that i just moved from my usb, and theres an error: "Totem could not startup"
[12:25] <darksoul> d-snap: and were would i get the source?
[12:26] <LaLO> wrong fs type :S
[12:26] <phoghawk> darksoul, I'm not quite sure then. I think that just means that it has the ability to run under Cedega
[12:26] <d-snp> ehh dunno, cedega.sourceforge.net I suppose
[12:26] <sara_> alsaconf wont run , it seems its corrupted
[12:26] <NoUse> d-snp you don't get some of the software that trasgaming licenses to put in cedega if you do that
[12:26] <LaLO> bad superblock on /dev/hdc5
[12:26] <d-snp> oh
[12:26] <maddash> Lalo, ok, same thing for ext2?
[12:26] <sara_> i i thought alsaconf was part of alsa-base or alsa-utils but it didnt install properly
[12:26] <LaLO> yes
[12:26] <kl1> hi
[12:26] <darksoul> phoghawk: why cant they just make a game that will work on both windows AND linux?
[12:26] <kl1> where can i paste some code?
[12:27] <d-snp> because of directx
[12:27] <maddash> Lalo, ok go to system>>administration>>disks
[12:27] <phoghawk> darksoul, because... coding is different. and directx
[12:27] <phoghawk> darksoul, too many reasons to name off
[12:27] <tyrael_tc> darksoul cus they are a$$wipes
[12:27] <maddash> Lalo, click on the "partition" tab
[12:27] <darksoul> phoghawk: hell they wouldent be losing any customers..they would be gaining... and i know the code is diffrant....but you could make two versions of the game
[12:27] <NoUse> darksoul some people do, like Id software
[12:27] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, no, iD software is actually very linux friendly
[12:27] <maddash> Lalo, what's the filesystem of the partition?
[12:28] <phoghawk> darksoul, but that would taek more time and more money
[12:28] <darksoul> NoUse: really? what games do they make
[12:28] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: thats one comapany
[12:28] <NoUse> darksoul Doom 3, Quake 4
[12:28] <phoghawk> darksoul, Quake and Doom
[12:28] <SirKillalot> are there programs which allow to unmount end eject the disc when the user presses the button on the cdrom drive?
[12:28] <darksoul> phoghawk: so? they would get like 20mill more customers
[12:28] <tyrael_tc> the Unreal tournament series installs on Linux
[12:28] <phoghawk> darksoul, nearly all of the older Quake games are available free on the iD software ftp site
[12:28] <darksoul> NoUse: k
[12:28] <mordrec> where can i get  the w32codecs for ubuntu?
[12:28] <darksoul> phoghawk: were would i download that?
[12:28] <NoUse> !w32codecs
[12:28] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[12:28] <mordrec> thanks
[12:28] <tyrael_tc> moredrec: good question
[12:28] <maddash> !w32codecs
[12:29] <veloct> darksoul:  go to this site: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[12:29] <darksoul> !quake
[12:29] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, darksoul
[12:29] <darksoul> veloct: thanks
[12:29] <maddash> !argh
[12:29] <ubotu> maddash: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:29] <SirKillalot> are there programs which allow to unmount end eject the disc when the user presses the button on the cdrom drive?
[12:29] <maddash> !inappreciative
[12:29] <ubotu> maddash: Are you smoking crack?
[12:29] <veloct> darksoul: np :)
[12:30] <maddash> SirKillalot: good question, i'd like to know too
[12:30] <Hobbsee> SirKillalot: eject?  it should work by default
[12:31] <Morpheous> Where is the list of  repositories for apt-get stored?
[12:31] <LaLO> i didnt see partition on device manager :S
[12:31] <SirKillalot> nope, I mean pressing on the hardwarebutton
[12:31] <German> hello
[12:31] <Hobbsee> Morpheous: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:31] <Morpheous> Thanks
[12:31] <Hobbsee> SirKillalot: exactly, works on a lot of machines, check that the package "eject" is installed
[12:31] <German> can anyone help me with Tomboy
[12:31] <tyrael_tc> who ever said helping others with linux was right
[12:31] <SirKillalot> The program should see that the user pressed the button, try to unmount, if it doesnt work, it should unmount by force and eject
[12:31] <tyrael_tc> *linux is fun was right*
[12:31] <phoghawk> Sorry to anyone I'm leaving hanging, but I gotsta go watch the KANSAS JAYHAWKS. WOOOT. Peace
[12:32] <SirKillalot> Hobbsee, I mean the damn hardwarebutton, on your case!
[12:32] <dr_willis> the idea of 'it should unmount by force' is sort of scary
[12:32] <maddash> lalo, huh? there's a tab on the right column that says "Properties", and one that says, "Partitions"
[12:33] <tyrael_tc> SirKillalot: so was he occasionally it doesnt work but it usually does
[12:33] <Nihil85> hallo!
[12:33] <fmasi> how do i install icons thems from gnome look
[12:33] <maddash> lalo, are you in "Disks Manager" app?
[12:33] <Nihil85> can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'
[12:33] <gnomefreak> gnome look?? you mean art.gnome.com?
[12:34] <fmasi> I mean http://www.gnome-look.org
[12:35] <tyrael_tc> fmasi: generally you need to install each part seperate.
[12:35] <tyrael_tc> fmasi: I had too
[12:35] <gnomefreak> sorry thought it was only kde-look and xfce-look
[12:35] <Nihil85> HALLO! can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'
[12:35] <Esotericisms> cna ubuntu be install on a mac computer?
[12:35] <Esotericisms> installed*
[12:35] <Rubin> how do i change the defaulte console keyboard map (to dvorak)
[12:36] <Rubin> whats the tool the installer runs to set that up?
[12:36] <fmasi> And how do i instal the icons ?
[12:36] <antisocial_boris> does anyone know of a good equation writing program i can run with hoary?
[12:36] <Nihil85> HALLO! can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'
[12:36] <Rubin> antisocial_boris: openoffice2 has one, if you upgrade to breezy
[12:37] <samasama> Hey, I
[12:37] <antisocial_boris> i dont really want to upgrade atm
[12:37] <sadrul> someone can please tell me where i can get libsilc? (breezy)
[12:37] <samasama> errr I'm new to ubuntu and any debian based system for that matter... I can't figure out where all the modules are getting loaded
[12:37] <fletch33> Nihil85,  i just thought i would tell u that u r not going to get anywhere here like that
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !info libsilc
[12:37] <synapsis_> question, how do i keep my client logged on, and have another client log on, and then after the 2nd client is done, return to the first?
[12:37] <ubotu> libsilc: (SILC library (silc-toolkit)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 376 kB, Installed size: 888 kB
[12:38] <petrigi> hi, can someone help me, I was using http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ for synaptic and it seems no more accessible
[12:38] <samasama> synapsis_: screen maybe
[12:38] <Nihil85> fletch33, what do you mean?
[12:38] <LaLO> fs is ext2
[12:38] <German> anyone can help me with tomboy please
[12:38] <synapsis_> samasama: meh i guess its not a big deal
[12:38] <KaoticEvil> anyone ever successfully get an Argus pencam working on ubuntu?
[12:38] <synapsis_> bbl
[12:39] <LaLO> maddash FS is ext2
[12:39] <fletch33> Nihil85, if you scream and keep repeating i have found that the people that know wont answer u. doesnt matter to me but i thought i would mention it
[12:39] <chrisx1> does any1 have any idea why mplayer is taking ages to make install?
[12:39] <maddash> Lalo: then use ext2 iin your fstab
[12:39] <Nihil85> fletch33, i have not screamed
[12:39] <LaLO> yes
[12:40] <maddash> lalo: and then "sudo mount /dev/hdc1"
[12:40] <tyrael_tc> chrisx1: dude just install in Synaptic
[12:40] <chrisx1> kk
[12:40] <tyrael_tc> thats what i did works perfectly
[12:40] <fletch33> using capital letters is screaming
[12:40] <LaLO> I cant :(
[12:40] <Nihil85> fletch33, i keep repeating my request because in this channel a lot of people are entering, so maybe the one who is new, can help me
[12:40] <fletch33> Nihil85,  using caps = screaming
[12:40] <Orborde> What's a good Scheme interpreter?
[12:41] <fletch33> Nihil85, sorry dude i was just trying to help
[12:41] <LaLO> EXT2-fs: hdc5: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[12:41] <fletch33> Nihil85,  didnt mean anything by it
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, please dont ask one right after another there are 605 ppl in here so please be pateint
[12:41] <sadrul> Hobbsee: thanx a lot :)
[12:42] <Hobbsee> sadrul: no problems
[12:42] <KaoticEvil> hey Hobbsee :)
[12:42] <Hobbsee> hey KaoticEvil :)
[12:42] <samasama> How do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?
[12:42] <Nihil85> fletch33, gnomefreak, excuse me if i yelled "hello" and if i asked three times a question
[12:42] <maddash> lalo, in fstab, try "0   2" instead of "0 0"
[12:42] <Nihil85> i will be more patient
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, ok what was your question and ty
[12:43] <LaLO> ok, but it doesnt work again
[12:43] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i cannot connect in a wireless lan my 2 pc (both are using ubuntu breezy)
[12:44] <maddash> lalo, wat's the msg?
[12:44] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i guess that maybe i need a sofwtare more configurable than kwifimanager
[12:44] <LaLO> the same message wrong fs type
[12:44] <LaLO> :S
[12:44] <LaLO> but the fs is correct
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, im not much help on wireless i havent tried to set it up
[12:45] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, thanks however
[12:45] <blackvd> say whats the plugin for k3b to make it automatically convert mp3,ogg,etc to wav when burning?
[12:45] <samasama> How do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?
[12:45] <NoUse> blackvd it should already do ogg, for mp3 install k3b-mp3
[12:45] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i've tried on #wireless but i didn't receive any answer for the name of a good software
[12:46] <kinkoblast> Blackvd: But don't make more mp3s. use ogg.
[12:46] <blackvd> think i did, let me check
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, have you tried to search on ubuntu wiki?
[12:46] <user01> what should i do if i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it froze at "stqrting hotplug subsystem"?
[12:46] <blackvd> i do
[12:46] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i've tried every wiki, every how-to, every everything
[12:46] <maddash> lalo, you should double check that you selected the right DRIVE and PARTITION under Disks Manager
[12:47] <blackvd> yeah i have k3b-mp3 installed
[12:47] <blackvd> does it work for ogg too
[12:47] <bur[n] er> blackvd: apt-cache search k3b
[12:48] <darrochfamily> my HP deskjet printer won't work in breezy but it works in Knoppix 3.7, could I just copy knoppix's configuration files across or would that stuff things up?
[12:48] <LaLO> i can install linux over this partition and keep my files ??
[12:48] <superbeast> how can i uninstall ubuntu and grub w/o deleting my windows partition
[12:48] <petrigi> does someone know a plf ressource for ubuntu ?
[12:48] <NoUse> blackvd ogg should already be installed
[12:49] <tyrael_tc> g'night all
[12:49] <samasama> How do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?
[12:49] <LaLO> im too bored for this problem
[12:49] <LaLO> i can install linux over this partition and keep my files ??
[12:49] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know an easy way to add new fonts to wine?
[12:49] <Sionide> LaLO, "this partition" has windows on?
[12:49] <maddash> Lalo if by 'linux' you mean 'ubuntu', then sure, why not?
[12:50] <LaLO> no i have windows in other HD
[12:50] <maddash> lalo though i don't understand why you would need to mount the partition just to install an OS
[12:50] <gnomefreak> what is breezy badger +1?
[12:50] <blackvd> ok so in the track listings it shows them as mp3, will in convert them when burning?
[12:50] <LaLO> but i have movies and music on linux
[12:50] <NoUse> blackvd if you told it to burn an audio CD yes
[12:50] <LaLO> i i dont want lost it
[12:50] <blackvd> cool thanks
[12:50] <harshrealm> hello!
[12:50] <samasama> How do I find out what services are set to start up at boot?
[12:50] <maddash> Lalo, installing any OS would delete your files
[12:51] <darrochfamily> my HP deskjet printer won't work in Kububtu breezy but it works in Knoppix 3.7, could I just copy knoppix's configuration files across or would that stuff things up?
[12:51] <thrush-working> samasama: ls /etc/init.d/
[12:51] <sadrul> !info silc-toolkit
[12:51] <maddash> lalo, what OS did you previously use the partitions containing th efiles with?
[12:51] <samasama> thrush-working: any file in there that's executable?
[12:51] <LaLO> I cant install ubuntu over this ubuntu partition ??
[12:52] <Rubin> lalo: its best to delete the partition and reformat it
[12:52] <LaLO> i have linux at one HD and in other Hd i have Winxp
[12:52] <Rubin> lalo: so wipe the linux one
[12:53] <maddash> lalo, are you using ubuntu now?
[12:53] <LaLO> yes
[12:53] <jerome71> Hello
[12:53] <LaLO> the live cd
[12:53] <samasama> thrush-working: any file in there that's executable will be executed on boot?
[12:53] <LaLO> because my ubuntu fail
[12:53] <jerome71> I need somme help abour diswrapper, can you help me please ;-)
[12:53] <maddash> LALO go ahead and install ubuntu on top of your existing ubuntu partition
[12:54] <user01> hmmm i think it is the sound blaster audigy 2 pci card taht did it
[12:54] <a8514> Hi
[12:54] <user01> sorry i mean pcmia
[12:54] <fmasi> Is ther enny whay that i can make the whidows border transparent so it will be like windows vista
[12:54] <LaLO> my files wouldnt be removed ??
[12:54] <fmasi> i like to make genome look exacly like windosw vista
[12:54] <user01> i popped it out and it seems to be working noz
[12:54] <samasama> I'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning
[12:54] <a8514> I have a little problems with PHP5... it doesn't work... It's installed but it doesn't work
[12:54] <LaLO> i dont want lost my files
[12:55] <a8514> can anybody help me?
[12:55] <LaLO> I ask if i can...
[12:55] <fmasi> i nead to make gnome like vista for pepole of my univercity
[12:55] <maddash> lalo are your files on the same partition as ubuntu's?
[12:55] <LaLO> yes
[12:55] <NoUse> !tell a8514 about php
[12:55] <wickedpuppy> fmasi, you need vista .... not gnome
[12:55] <fmasi> i hate vista
[12:55] <fmasi> but some pepole at univercity like it
[12:55] <a8514> NoUse, I installes Apache2 and PHP5, bue
[12:55] <maddash> lalo, what's wrong with the existing ubuntu installation?
[12:56] <a8514> but, PHP doesn't interpret the php file
[12:56] <fmasi> so i like to make the icones and the border like vista
[12:56] <gnomefreak> whats wrong with the way gnome looks?
[12:56] <fmasi> i love it gnomefreak but some frind whats me to put like vista
[12:56] <NoUse> a8514 did you install the apache plugin for php?
[12:56] <fmasi> just the glass sistem
[12:57] <LaLO> I put some files.c by error in /etc/modprob.d while i was seeing the steps of one manual
[12:57] <fmasi> i ges ther is awhay to make the borders translucid no ?
[12:57] <a8514> I supose...
[12:57] <a8514> Just a second...
[12:57] <wickedpuppy> fmasi, if you use ubuntu and tell people its vista ... its cheating on the linux ... don't ya think?
[12:57] <LaLO> and when i restart the ubuntu doesnt work
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ive never seen vista but im sure its not much different from xp but way off base for linux
[12:57] <German>  can't install tomboy --- help me please
[12:57] <fmasi> i do i not gona do that they just like the glass look things have
[12:58] <Nihil85> hallo! i cannot access my shared folder. the window chrashes. what's the problem? how can i fix it?
[12:58] <vallera> hello i am kind of a noob can some one help me when i try to open my hdd an error message appears "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". "
[12:58] <fmasi> i have a copy at home its just xp whith skins
[12:58] <samasama> I'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning
[12:58] <fmasi> its a shit
[12:58] <fmasi> ubuntu is mutch bether
[12:58] <a8514> NoUse, "$ sudo aptitude install php5"   <-- this??
[12:58] <fmasi> just like to figure out how to make the border lok like glassy
[12:58] <darksoul> wtf
[12:58] <darksoul> can somone tell me wtf is wrong
[12:59] <kbrooks> darkheart: with
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: with?
[12:59] <wickedpuppy> fmasi, give those who like vista , windows vista ... give the rest ubuntu .. see how long they can stand it
[12:59] <darksoul> my sound works on gnome..but its all messed up, like it has fuzz in it
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: define "wtf is wrong"
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: what is your problem?
[12:59] <darksoul> i know its prob just a new driver needed
[12:59] <NoUse> a8514 have you looked at the link ubotu sent you?
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul:
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: what is your problem!!!!!!
[12:59] <fmasi> ok but is ther a way to make the border translucid or some thing like it i curios now about that
[12:59] <darksoul> nothing its just fuzzy, the sound, i can hear it but its like a radio with barly any reseption..
[12:59] <wickedpuppy> ....
[01:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:00] <a8514> Sorry?
[01:00] <wickedpuppy> kbrooks, he just said his problem
[01:00] <darksoul> i just want to know what i need to download to update on board sound cards...
[01:00] <vallera> hello i am kind of a noob can some one help me when i try to open my hdd an error message appears "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". " please help me .
[01:00] <kbrooks> darksoul: uh no
[01:00] <kbrooks> darksoul: its not that
[01:00] <darksoul> kbrooks: then what is it?
[01:00] <thrush> vallera: this is a windows partition?
[01:00] <NoUse> !tell a8514 about php
[01:01] <kbrooks> its your sound settings
[01:01] <maddash> lalo, the steps I gave you should have worked
[01:01] <NoUse> a8514 that walks you through how to install and configure PHP
[01:01] <vallera> so there is no way that i can view the contents
[01:01] <kbrooks> darksoul: right click on the gnome menu in a empty area
[01:01] <kbrooks> add applet
[01:01] <maalox> Is anyone aware of a way to disable device-mapper?
[01:01] <thrush> vallera: yes u can
[01:01] <kbrooks> find the gnome volumee applet and add it
[01:01] <maddash> vallera: what partition?
[01:01] <darksoul> its allredy added
[01:01] <vallera> thrush so there is no way to view its content
[01:01] <LaLO> yes i think that
[01:01] <darksoul> so how does that help?
[01:01] <UnIData> hi, i doownload horde3 how run ?
[01:01] <vallera> maddash hdb1
[01:02] <darksoul> lol
[01:02] <maddash> vallera: where is it mounted?
[01:02] <LaLO> by i dont know whats the problem
[01:02] <fmasi> if enny one know how to make widows border translucid pleas pvt me
[01:02] <a8514> mm
[01:02] <kbrooks> darksoul: did you increase the volume
[01:02] <maddash> maddash: open up a terminal, type in "cd /media"
[01:02] <kbrooks> all up the way to the top
[01:02] <darksoul> kbrooks: yes. i increased it..the pc speakers all the way up to
[01:02] <maddash> vallera: open up a terminal, type in "cd /media"
[01:02] <vallera> maddash not sure there is an icon on my desktop labeled hdb1
[01:02] <LaLO> I only want now if its possible reinstall linux at the same partiton and dont lost my files...........
[01:03] <samasama> I'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning and just need some direction : )
[01:03] <maddash> vallera: then type in "ls" --- is hdb1 listed?
[01:03] <maddash> lalo - it is possible for windows to access an ext2/ext3 partition
[01:03] <vallera> maddash yes it is listed
[01:03] <LaLO> yes
[01:03] <LaLO> next week
[01:03] <LaLO> xDD
[01:04] <LaLO> because i have an old screen that not support my windows resolution
[01:04] <vallera> maddash i also see my usb drive which is not on the desktop can i make an icon for it
[01:04] <LaLO> :(
[01:04] <UnIData> hi, i download horde3 how run ?
[01:04] <UnIData> please help
[01:04] <samasama> Hi, I'm trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning and just need some direction : )
[01:04] <YUSETH> HOLA QUIERO PLATICAR
[01:04] <maddash> lalo, fire up windows, http://www.fs-driver.org/  , install it, and backup your data
[01:04] <gnomefreak> UnIData, try typing horde3 in terminal
[01:04] <darksoul> yea its like when you turn up the pc speakers to loud and it starts fuzzing..but this is a stario.. and i have never had this problem on windows..so it must be somthing
[01:05] <maalox> Is anyone aware of a way to disable "device-mapper"?
[01:05] <maddash> vallera: here's what to do: type in this command:
[01:05] <darksoul> then again...on windows my base didint work thisgood
[01:05] <vallera> maddash ok where ?
[01:05] <maddash> vallera: "chmod a+rwx hdb1"
[01:06] <maddash> vallera: that should do the trick
[01:06] <wickedpuppy> samasama, if you wanna know what modules are loaded its same for all nix
[01:06] <UnIData> gnomefreak: http://localhost/horde3 ??
[01:06] <maddash> lalo, is that a viable solution?
[01:06] <darksoul> nvm the entire problem looks like the damn gnome sounds
[01:06] <darksoul> like gaim
[01:06] <gnomefreak> UnIData,  you said its downloaded already right?
[01:06] <samasama> wickedpuppy:  Yeah, not listing, i need to see where in the boot process they're being loaded
[01:06] <vallera> maddash here is the message "chmod: cannot access `hdb1': No such file or directory"
[01:06] <darksoul> my music mostly plays fine so meh..
[01:06] <samasama> wickedpuppy: So I can stop them from being loaded
[01:07] <harshrealm> the following problem were found on you system:
[01:07] <thrush> vallera: to mount a windows partition: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb1 /media/whatever
[01:07] <LaLO> yes
[01:07] <BenC> samasama: hotplug
[01:07] <LaLO> thanks
[01:07] <BenC> see /etc/hotplug
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> samasama, not listing ? what you type to see the list ?
[01:07] <LaLO> i think it colud be work
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <LaLO> :P
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> !ops
[01:07] <maddash> vallera: "chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"
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[01:07] <UnIData> gnomefreak: Yes from repositories
[01:07] <gnomefreak> someone plz boot his ass
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> help?
[01:07] <BenC> samasama: but there's really no reason to not load them, they don't really do much if they aren't being used
[01:07] <NoUse> harshrealm read the /topic! don't paste in here
[01:08] <vallera> maddash ok i changed the directory now it is working
[01:08] <maddash> lalo: you're welcome
[01:08] <LaLO> i think that will work ok
[01:08] <LaLO> thanks
[01:08] <gnomefreak> harshrealm,  doing that will get you no help
[01:08] <UnIData> gnomefreak: Yes  from respo
[01:08] <LaLO> :P
[01:08] <samasama> BenC: I'm all about minimalization and security, it's not a good habbit to load modules that you don't need IMHO
[01:08] <maddash> vallera: you should be able to write into hdb1 - can you?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> UnIData, what happens when you type hoard3 in terminal
[01:08] <vallera> maddash no the same error
[01:09] <harshrealm> i would like to apologise for my ignorance. i will not do it again
[01:09] <maddash> vallera: can you open hdb1?
[01:09] <LaLO> bye all
[01:09] <NoUse> harshrealm try running apt-get update
[01:09] <nalioth> harshrealm: please do not. the /topic is an integral part of any irc channel. it imparts information pertinent to the channel
[01:09] <gnomefreak> harshrealm,  paste your sources list in pastebina nd give us link to it
[01:09] <gimmulf> maybe a little bit offtopic but is "Best Trusted Provider Since 2003" a correct english sentence? :)
[01:10] <gimmulf> best trusted feels a little bit wierd
[01:10] <thrush> gimmulf: maybe most instead of best
[01:10] <dr_willis> Unless theres some sort of "best trusted award"
[01:10] <UnIData> in firefox i type http://localhost/horde3 and see: The requested URL /horde3/ was not found on this server.
[01:10] <bimberi> gimmulf: unless "Trusted" is some sort of product
[01:10] <vallera> maddash no i cant open it it gives me the same error "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". "
[01:10] <dr_willis> but its all sounds like buzzword hype to me. :P
[01:10] <gimmulf> hmm ok thanks :)
[01:11] <Yod_> #ubuntu-br
[01:11] <gnomefreak> UnIData, open a terminal and type hoard3
[01:11] <vallera> thrush thnx i tried the command but still doesnt work
[01:11] <BenC> samasama: I'm all for that too, but in a real desktop system, you're going to have things you don't need, because that's the only way to make the system usable for most people
[01:11] <thrush> vallera: u will have to sudo umount /media/hab1 first then run command
[01:11] <gnomefreak> UnIData,  im assuming since you just downloaded it you havent configured it yet
[01:11] <samasama> BenC: Well this system is just for me
[01:11] <samasama> so
[01:11] <thrush> hab1 = whatever
[01:11] <maddash> vallera: ok, in the terminal, type, "cd /media" followed bt "ls -lg" and paste your output into the pastebin, then give me the link
[01:11] <BenC> samasama: nothing wrong with reducing things as you see fit though, hint, look for the blacklist, and put modules in there you don't want
[01:12] <BenC> samasama: I don't mean multiuser, I mean a distribution that will run for different machines :)
[01:12] <samasama> BenC: Oh yeah... Just wish there was an easier way of managing things like this, this is why I didn't like debian : )
[01:12] <vallera> maddash here "lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     6 2005-11-15 02:55 cdrom -> cdrom0
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 cdrom0
[01:12] <vallera> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     7 2005-11-15 02:55 floppy -> floppy0
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 floppy0
[01:12] <vallera> dr-x------   1 root 40960 2005-11-14 16:55 hdb1
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x  25 root 16384 1970-01-01 02:00 hdb5
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda1
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda5
[01:12] <cafuego> !paste
[01:12] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda6
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sdb1
[01:12] <BenC> samasama: some things like the sony module are hard loaded (since they can't be detected), so that may be harder
[01:12] <vallera> "
[01:12] <cafuego> vallera: Stop spamming
[01:13] <thrush> vallera: your about to get yelled at :)
[01:13] <maddash> !tell vallera about pastebin
[01:13] <vallera> sorry
[01:13] <maddash> vallera: don't worry, everyone does it once
[01:13] <bimberi> unless the see someone else do it first
[01:13] <bimberi> *they
[01:13] <maddash> vallera: type, "chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"
[01:13] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about LDAP? trying to hook up my laptop as an LDAP client to the school server
[01:13] <cafuego> Yes, it's a mistake you make only once, one way or the other ;-)
[01:14] <BenC> samasama: but even unloading modules isn't going to do a whole lot for you, since there's lots compiled into the kernel aswell....if you're that hardcore, you might just want to roll your own kernel
[01:14] <nalioth> vallera: everyone does it once. please read the /topic
[01:14] <maddash> cafuego, vallera, nalioth: I meant, "at least once". heh.
[01:14] <BenC> benplaut: what kind of client?
[01:14] <_smd_> hhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuif oli.0-[o0o0l-p0-
[01:14] <_smd_> .0-./
[01:14] <BenC> benplaut: do you mean for authentication/authorization?
[01:15] <samasama> BenC: Well of course I'm going to do that... What about services? How I manage service? Is it anything in /etc/init.d  that is +x will be run at boot?
[01:15] <benplaut> BenC: anything... i don't know where to begin
[01:15] <cafuego> maddash: Well, that's not technically true either.
[01:15] <vallera> maddash still the same error
[01:15] <BenC> samasama: services are in /etc/rc?.d/ (man update-rc.d)
[01:15] <samasama> ugh : P
[01:15] <maddash> vallera: are you sure the previous command I gave you worked out fine?
[01:15] <cafuego> maddash: Normally you'd go "Hmm, would people mind if I pasted 20 klines of shit? - probably not, let me ask first"
[01:15] <samasama> I hate that system
[01:15] <BenC> benplaut: that's like asking "I need to setup my machine to be a SQL client"
[01:16] <gnomefreak> ill bbl
[01:16] <maddash> cafuego: true. but that was more like 400 bytes.
[01:16] <vallera> here is the output after running the command "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:16] <BenC> benplaut: apt-cache search openldap
[01:16] <BenC> go from there
[01:16] <benplaut> BenC: ldap-utils... i've installed it
[01:16] <cafuego> vallera: What filesystem type is hdb1?
[01:16] <BenC> vallera: what are you trying to do?
[01:17] <maddash> vallera: oops. sorry. here's what I meant: "sudo chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"
[01:17] <BenC> benplaut: openldap-utils?
[01:17] <maddash> vallera: what's the output on that one?
[01:17] <benplaut> BenC: "ldap-utils - OpenLDAP utilities
[01:17] <benplaut> "
[01:17] <BenC> ok, nm
[01:17] <_smd_> sorry: my son got a hold of my computer while out of my room
[01:17] <BenC> benplaut: then you're ready...what else do you want to do?
[01:17] <vallera> maddash "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:17] <cafuego> vallera: Is it NTFS?
[01:18] <maddash> vallera: to check if it is NTFS, type in "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:18] <benplaut> BenC: well... what do i do now? IE, is there a script to set it up, a config file to edit...
[01:18] <BenC> if it's ntfs, just mount it with uid=XXX where XXX is your user id
[01:18] <vallera> maddash yes NTFS
[01:18] <BenC> benplaut: that depends completely on what you are using ldap for
[01:18] <cafuego> Mind you, it will still be read-only, but your user account will be able to read it.
[01:19] <maddash> vallera: oooh....I don't thiink linux supports ntfs writing...but you'd still be able to read it:
[01:19] <BenC> benplaut: ldap is as simple as "do this", it's all dependent on the data being stored there and how it's being used
[01:19] <benplaut> BenC: i think it's meant to be setup in a way that the computer is acting, pretty much as a thin client
[01:19] <cafuego> maddash: It does, but it *will* destroy data.
[01:19] <maddash> vallera: "sudo chmod a+rx /media/hdb1"
[01:19] <vallera> maddash but i cant even view the contents
[01:19] <maddash> vallera: try the above
[01:19] <thrush> vallera: sudo umount /media/hdb1
[01:19] <BenC> benplaut: umm...ldap doesn't do anything like that
[01:19] <BenC> benplaut: it can store usernames and passwords
[01:20] <cafuego> vallera: You need to mount the partition with the correct mount options.
[01:20] <vallera> madash "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:20] <maddash> cafuego: dude, wtf? have some common sense
[01:20] <benplaut> BenC: okey dokey... i guess i'll have to get something else out of the netadmin :P
[01:20] <cafuego> maddash: I know the problem and the solution. chmod in any form is not it.
[01:20] <cafuego> vallera: Type 'id' in a shell.
[01:20] <maddash> cafuego: quite the contrary. look at her permissions under ls.
[01:20] <BenC> vallera: sudo umount /dev/hdb1; sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[01:20] <cafuego> maddash: Yes.
[01:21] <cafuego> maddash: Like I said,  I know the problem and the solution. chmod in any form is not it.
[01:21] <BenC> benplaut: using ldap for auth, means you will need lots of stuff like PAM modules and PAM configuration
[01:21] <BenC> it's a pain
[01:21] <maddash> vallera, cafuego: cafuego seems to think he knows what he's talking about, so he'll help you now
[01:21] <cafuego> maddash: 1) chmod doesn't work ona  read-only fs. 2) NTFS doesn't support linux file perms.
[01:21] <vallera> whci command should i run
[01:21] <BenC> vallera: use the one I showed you
[01:22] <cafuego> vallera: Running 'id' will give you a line starting with 'uid=...'
[01:22] <BenC> it will mount the filesystem so the files/dirs are owned by you
[01:22] <vallera> ok worked
[01:22] <cafuego> vallera: if you uid is 1000, run the command benc gave you: 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o ui=1000 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'
[01:23] <vallera> thank you all
[01:23] <cafuego> vallera: That will mount the filesystem read-only, with the default owner being your user account.
[01:23] <vallera> cafuego Ok
[01:24] <cafuego> vallera: You can automate that process by adding the correct info to /etc/fstab
[01:24] <thrush> i would think breezy could automount this stuff for the user by now..
[01:24] <capiCrimm> Anyone know how to get back files deleted with rm.
[01:24] <n0odl3> where is the xorg.conf file?
[01:24] <BenC> vallera: you wont be able to modify anything on that fs, since write support for ntfs is disabled (dangerous)
[01:24] <cafuego> capiCrimm: moun tthe partition in question read-only IMMEDIATELY.
[01:24] <BenC> n0odl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:24] <n0odl3> thx
[01:24] <capiCrimm> cafuego, how?
[01:24] <darksoul> yea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[01:24] <vallera> BenC ok thats fine for me
[01:25] <vallera> cafuego i ll do that i will add the command
[01:25] <cafuego> capiCrimm: http://www.billjonas.com/papers/undeletion.html
[01:25] <darksoul> any ideas people?
[01:26] <synapsis_> hello again =)
[01:26] <darksoul> yea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[01:26] <synapsis_> question, there's 18 new updates available, do i want to download these?
[01:26] <erisco> hello, i was wondering if anyone could identify my problem with limewire. i correctly followed the guide, but when i try to run limewire, nothing happens. any ideas?
[01:26] <cafuego> capiCrimm: if the files were on the root filesystem, their data has probably already been overwrittenin which case you cannot retrieve it.
[01:26] <darksoul> yea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[01:26] <NoUse> !tell darksoul about ati
[01:26] <darksoul> thanks
[01:27] <cafuego> vallera: You cna edit /etc/fstab as root (cia sudo) using any text editor.
[01:27] <lightbright> i just installed 5.10 Ubuntu and it never created or asked me to create a root account and access!  How can I do this?
[01:27] <NoUse> !tell lightbright about root
[01:27] <cafuego> vallera: You need to add a line like: "/dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,uid=1000 0 0" - that will automount it at bootup.
[01:27] <capiCrimm> cafuego, where do I find what partition I'm on currently?
[01:27] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Where were the files you deleted?
[01:28] <capiCrimm> cafuego, you mean the folder? in /var
[01:28] <lightbright> NoUse: root is disabled!  Thats a critial error and mistake!  because my mouse doesnt work so I need to edit the text file /X11/ and I CANT because I have no root access :(
[01:28] <capiCrimm> I only have one partition for the whole machine, though
[01:28] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Ok. does 'df' list a seperate /var partition?
[01:28] <thrush> lightbright: sudo -i for root terminal
[01:28] <lightbright> how can I tell Ubuntu to use my serial mouse if I dont have root access?
[01:28] <LathropWells> cafuego - have you tried "testdisk" for partition recovery? http://www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk.html
[01:28] <thrush> or sudo command
[01:29] <jake37> lightbright do the keyboard work?
[01:29] <mauro> f
[01:29] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Then there is probably not much point trying to grab any of it. Which files or dirs did you delete?
[01:29] <lightbright> thrush: when I did that it asked me for a password
[01:29] <cafuego> LathropWells: Nope, i have no need.
[01:29] <lightbright> jake37: yes
[01:29] <thrush> lightbright: that is your user pass
[01:29] <bimberi> lightbright: your password
[01:29] <vallera> cafuego the  "ro,uid=1000" is under the options column right
[01:29] <mauro> ;
[01:29] <cafuego> vallera: correc
[01:29] <lightbright> thrush: I can get root access by typing  sudo -i  and then entering my user password?
[01:29] <vallera> cafuego :)
[01:29] <Knowerrors> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[01:30] <Knowerrors> Hey all, when installing wine cvs I get that
[01:30] <lightbright> bimberi:  I can get root access by typing  sudo -i  and then entering my user password?
[01:30] <bimberi> lightbright: yes...
[01:30] <Knowerrors> Know how to fix it?
[01:30] <lightbright> bimberi: ah ok well thats good
[01:30] <lightbright> bimberi:  whats the command to set up my mouse to use serial mouse?
[01:30] <thrush> lightbright: or just sudo 'whatever' to run something once gedit or vi etc
[01:30] <synapsis_> question, there's 18 new updates available, do i want to download these?
[01:30] <bimberi> lightbright: better to use it for individual commands (eg. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf) - the less you're in a root shell the better
[01:31] <cafuego> LathropWells: In this case, downloading and installing testdisk would ovwerwrite the newly free inodes, destroying more of them...
[01:31] <LathropWells> cafuego - that doesn't sound like very much fun..
[01:31] <capiCrimm> cafuego, I forgot I moved them to a usb stick first. I screwed up and used mv instead of cp. The line for the usb stick is...
[01:31] <bimberi> lightbright: probably that command i gave an example, then change the device in the mouse section to /dev/ttyS0 (for COM1)
[01:31] <lightbright> bimberi: well it woulnt allow me to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf cause it needed root access
[01:31] <capiCrimm> \/dev/sdb1                63584      2158     61426   4% /mnt/usb_stick_1
[01:31] <bimberi> lightbright: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <cafuego> LathropWells: No, inappropriate sue of 'rm' never is ;-)
[01:32] <lightbright> bimberi: dont I need to add the "i" ?  like sudo -i gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <LathropWells> cafuego - ;)
[01:32] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Then you cna probably just copy them back from the usb stick.
[01:32] <thrush> lightbright: just sudo -i gives a root term
[01:32] <bimberi> lightbright: no, sudo -i gets you a root shell
[01:32] <lightbright> bimberi: whats the difference?
[01:33] <bimberi> lightbright: actually use nano instead of gedit, you don't have a mouse of course (D'Oh)
[01:33] <synapsis_> what is a mp3 download client?
[01:33] <lightbright> thrush: why doesnt ubuntu come with KDE?
[01:33] <thrush> lightbright: thats kubuntu if u want it type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto
[01:33] <lightbright> bimberi: I can use keyboard to open file and scroll down using gedit
[01:33] <bimberi> lightbright: sudo <command> runs the command as root, sudo -i puts you into a root login shell and all commands from then are in the root shell
[01:33] <jake37> lightbright...you need kubuntu for that
[01:33] <thrush> lightbright: kubuntu-desktop*
[01:33] <LathropWells> lightbright KDE is available yhough apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <n0odl3> im trying to configure my xorg.conf and i need a little help
[01:34] <capiCrimm> cafuego, I mean I used mv on accident, screwed up on the copy and rmed them, tried to cp them again and realized they weren't there.
[01:34] <bimberi> lightbright: probably, but nano is probably easier to use in cli
[01:34] <n0odl3> im reading a thread by MetalMusicAddict about setting up a MousePen tablet
[01:34] <lightbright> ok!  do you guys prefer gnome over KDE?  if so, why?
[01:34] <bimberi> lightbright: gawd, don't ask that! :P
[01:34] <jake37> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Driver		"mouse"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/ttyS0"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Option		"Protocol"		"Microsoft"
[01:34] <n0odl3> and it says he added a section under "InputDevice" under the "Configured Mouse"
[01:34] <lightbright> thrush: did you mean apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:34] <n0odl3> what does he mean?
[01:34] <thrush> lightbright: omg kde like totally sucks ;)
[01:35] <capiCrimm> cafuego, what would I use for the name of the partition in the moun command? /mnt/usb_stick_1 ?
[01:35] <thrush> yes but sudo in front
[01:35] <jake37> lightbright did you get that pm?
[01:35] <n0odl3> there is a section called "InputDevice" and it deals with a mouse
[01:35] <lightbright> thrush: so whenever I want to install something, I need to place sudo in front?  eg. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:35] <anto9us> n0odl3, make sure you backup first with cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:35] <LathropWells> lightbright - GNOME is lighter faster uglier. - i don't need no stinkin' pretty desktop... - lol
[01:35] <synapsis_> anyone have an idea for a mp3 download client?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> is there a "dapper" channel for those users out there to converse?
[01:35] <lightbright> jake37: what pm?
[01:35] <bimberi> jake37: no, we all saw it :/
[01:35] <n0odl3> anto9us
[01:35] <anto9us> n0odl3, that is the section it means, yes
[01:35] <jake37> lol...okay
[01:35] <n0odl3> anto9us: ok but how would i access the backup?
[01:35] <thrush> lightbright: whenever u need to do something that would normally reqire root
[01:36] <LathropWells> GNOME is still very customisable
[01:36] <jake37> my chat command is rusty
[01:36] <lightbright> thrush: so add sudo in front and it will ask for my regular password?
[01:36] <anto9us> n0odl3, in case you mess your xorg.conf up you can copy it back
[01:36] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[01:36] <thrush> lightbright: yes
[01:36] <bimberi> lightbright: yes
[01:36] <lightbright> ok cool :)
[01:36] <lightbright> I got my 5 ubuntu CDs today in the mail!  wow, its nice of them to send free CDs
[01:36] <LathropWells> ubotu tell lightbright about sudo
[01:37] <sheppardslegion> ordered mine today... using the Live now
[01:37] <lightbright> Am I going to now get sent a bill for those 5 CD's or some type of marketing marterial trying to sell me something?
[01:37] <thrush> lightbright: seems a little odd at first but i prefer sudo now it will remeber your pass for like 15min so u dont have to keep typing it
[01:37] <jake37> lightbright > I have only used kde before...but gnome is much more refined and uncluttered
[01:37] <lightbright> thrush: and that seems safer as I dont spend time as root, yes?
[01:37] <bimberi> lightbright: no
[01:37] <LathropWells> lightbright - shed your windows thiking - free i s free. - no bills
[01:37] <thrush> lightbright: yep :)
[01:38] <n0odl3> alright brb
[01:39] <psycho> hi
[01:39] <jake37> lightbright> i had same prob with mouse...but managed to find solution in like ten minutes on web...lots of help in forums...and even weblogs that people keep
[01:39] <LathropWells> should we tell  him - religious missionaries are going to visit him for a conversion? - lol - (that is a joke.)
[01:39] <bimberi> lightbright: no, was referring to "marketing material"
[01:39] <bimberi> :)
[01:39] <psycho> who now about ftp
[01:39] <psycho> i want to put a file into a remote terminal
[01:39] <thrush> psycho: youre trying to install an ftp server?
[01:39] <psycho> help me please
[01:40] <bimberi> psycho: what problem are you having?
[01:40] <lightbright> so I add  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"  into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get my serial mouse to work?
[01:40] <anto9us> psycho, you can use Places | Connect to Server
[01:40] <psycho> i want to put a file into a remote terminal
[01:40] <thrush> psycho: unless u really want ftp install openssh-server and then use sftp much more secure
[01:40] <jake37> light bright...yes....and delte any entries like option if it is a basic mouse
[01:41] <josh__> how does one enable ftp?
[01:41] <psycho> yes
[01:41] <anto9us> josh__, server or client?
[01:42] <jake37> lightbright > btw, you can open the xorg file and look at it first...but have to sudo gedit in order to make and save changes
[01:42] <josh__> server
[01:42] <psycho> vsftpd
[01:42] <psycho> vsftpd
[01:42] <lightbright> jake37: I delete anything with "Options" ?
[01:42] <anto9us> josh__, ssh is better :)
[01:42] <jake37> lightbright > the option in the mouse section yes
[01:42] <psycho> help me plz
[01:42] <thrush> psycho: thats what I use but I keep it pretty locked down
[01:42] <josh__> i just want to know how to enable ftp not ssh just ftp
[01:42] <lightbright> jake37: isnt there a mouseconfig command that will do this for me?
[01:42] <anto9us> josh__, ftpd
[01:43] <thrush> psycho: either sudo apt-get install openssh-server or sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[01:43] <jake37> lightbright> scroll back up and use what I pasted  as an example
[01:43] <josh__> is there a step by step that i could follow?
[01:43] <psycho> vsftpd
[01:43] <jake37> lightbright...config a mouse that does nto initialize or even get recognized is not benificail
[01:44] <Astxist> could someone please help me out, I can't get network settings to remember my phone number it never saves it?
[01:44] <NickolasName> I can't get ipw2200 to load on my laptop (it's got an internal 80211 card, i updated drivers & firmware & 80211 framework and it still doesn't see the card at all).  when i try and 'modprobe ipw2200' i get errors.  can provide more details.  can anyone help?
[01:44] <psycho> i want to put a file into a remote terminal
[01:44] <josh__> so if you type vsftpd into a terminal it says command not fout
[01:44] <josh__> found
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Driver  "mouse"
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Option  "CorePointer"
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Option  "Protocol"  "Microsoft"
[01:44] <anto9us> josh__, sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37: so delete all those that says Options?
[01:44] <thrush> vsftpd is a server app and needs to be installed first
[01:45] <jake37> lightbright> after you make and save changes pres ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x and mouse should work
[01:45] <sheppardslegion> what is the super user password on the Live version
[01:45] <psycho> vsftpd its installed
[01:45] <jake37> lightbright...yes...all options in the mouse section
[01:45] <lightbright> jake37 lightbright...config a mouse that does nto initialize or even get recognized is not benificail <-- lol, it is for people whos mouse doesnt work :P
[01:45] <josh__> it can't find the package
[01:45] <bimberi> lightbright: no, just the "Device" bit - what you (naughtily) pasted looks good
[01:46] <sheppardslegion> su password?
[01:46] <bimberi> sheppardslegion: there is none, use sudo
[01:46] <lightbright> jake37: If I delete all those Options, how will it know to use my mouse on "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0" ???
[01:46] <Nihil85> hallo! i cannot access my shared folder. the window chrashes. what's the problem? how can i fix it?
[01:46] <sheppardslegion> tnks
[01:46] <bimberi> sheppardslegion: sudo -i if you want a root shell
[01:46] <bimberi> sheppardslegion: np :)
[01:46] <anto9us> josh__, it's in the main repository, try again after sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <lightbright> bimberi: If I delete the part:  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"  how will it know to use my mouse on   "/dev/ttyS0" ?
[01:47] <josh__> still can't find it
[01:47] <jake37> lightbright > the options i have left in the mouse section are : corepointer, device andprotocol...just leave those
[01:48] <sheppardslegion> great thanks bimb..
[01:48] <jake37> make protocol "Microsoft"
[01:48] <lightbright> jake37: ok but I thought you said to delete them all :P
[01:48] <lightbright> ok
[01:48] <ryanpg> join #bots-ubuntu
[01:48] <josh__> is there a repository that i could add to get more updates
[01:48] <ryanpg> doh
[01:48] <ryanpg> :)
[01:48] <erisco> how can i play a .mid?
[01:48] <jake37> lightbright> sorry...was thinking options like axis thingy and such...lol
[01:49] <ryanpg> ubotu, bot abuse?
[01:49] <ubotu> somebody said bot abuse was a bannable offense
[01:49] <bimberi> lightbright: sorry, confusing you aren't I/we, you will need that line
[01:49] <lightbright> bimberi: ok
[01:49] <anto9us> josh__, it's definitely in the main section the package is called vsftpd
[01:49] <ryanpg> gosh darn it... where can I play with the bots?
[01:49] <erisco> no support for .mid?
[01:49] <lightbright> next question I have is.. :)  How can I now get ubuntu to dial out using my modem to the Internet?
[01:50] <jake37> dial up?
[01:50] <mustard5> lightbright, what type of modem you got?
[01:50] <lightbright> jake37: yes
[01:50] <steigweis> what does the &U parameter mean at the end of the "gimp %U" command?
[01:50] <josh__> the update manager says that i have all the updates but i can't get some packages like these i'm just wondering if there was a repository that i was missing
[01:50] <lightbright> mustard5: external 56k
[01:50] <steigweis> i dont know what U does
[01:50] <oofnik> hey folks i'm back.. um yeah compiling still locks up my system to those who were here earlier
[01:50] <ryanpg> ubotu, ubuntu bots
[01:50] <ubotu> ryanpg: Are you smoking crack?
[01:50] <lightbright> jake37: yes dial up, how can I dial out to my ISP?
[01:50] <mustard5> lightbright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[01:51] <lightbright> why didnt they add a dial out like Mepis did for example?
[01:51] <jake37> lightbright> not sure...been awhile since I had to config a modem
[01:51] <lightbright> I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be easy like Ms windows :P  mepis seems easier
[01:51] <mustard5> lightbright, once you are online, you can get gnome-ppp from the repositories
[01:51] <lightbright> mustard5: catch 22
[01:51] <oofnik> anyone here have experience with both ubuntu and gentoo?
[01:51] <foxgamer> Hi all.
[01:52] <oofnik> i'm trying to decide between upgrading to breezy or switching to gentoo
[01:52] <jake37> lightbright> wouldn't they have gnome-ppp on the cd?
[01:52] <mustard5> lightbright, before getting online you have command line to get online with dialup
[01:52] <lightbright> mustard5: i need gnome-ppp to dial out and I need to dial out to get gnome-ppp :P  catch 22!  thats limited thinking from the Ubuntu developers :(
[01:52] <lightbright> jake37: doesnt seem that way
[01:52] <foxgamer> In a never ending quest to get my ati card working on ubuntu64, I am one step closer. Is there someone with technical knowledge that would be able to help me progress? TIA
[01:52] <mustard5> lightbright, see link above that I showed you..
[01:52] <lightbright> mustard5: whats command line?
[01:52] <bob2> oofnik: way simpler if you just ask your question
[01:52] <bimberi> lightbright: did you try System -> Administration -> Networking ?
[01:52] <mustard5> lightbright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[01:53] <lightbright> bimberi: yeah looked around there too
[01:53] <bob2> foxgamer: by "working" do you mean "using binary only drivers"?
[01:53] <lightbright> mustard5: ok brb
[01:53] <mustard5> lightbright, its as easy as pie to  do
[01:53] <thrush> lightbright: type sudo network-admin or do what bimberi said
[01:53] <jake37> lightbright...when you get mouse working you will be able to navigate desktop and use synaptic to update and install gnome-ppp if it is there
[01:53] <n0odl3> help! i messed up my xorg.conf file! i backed it up but how do i access it?
[01:53] <lightbright> ok
[01:53] <anto9us> steigweis, it's a variable, I think to indicate the filename if you drag a file onto the gimp icon
[01:53] <oofnik> bob2 no real question really, i just want to hear any experiences people might have with both
[01:53] <oofnik> if they reccomend ubuntu over gentoo or vice versa
[01:53] <bob2> oofnik: you will waste far less time with ubuntu
[01:54] <steigweis> anto9us: aha, interesting, ty
[01:54] <foxgamer> bob2: It works (as I'm using it now) but setting it up using the ati drivers. I have got a step closer in the fact that I can now have a higher res. with better frame rate, but the fps haven't changed.
[01:54] <bob2> oofnik: if all you want to do i sfuck around, use gentoo
[01:54] <n0odl3> how can i access my backup file?
[01:54] <bob2> oofnik: if you actually do useful work, debian or ubuntu
[01:54] <oofnik> bob2 that's what i'm thinking
[01:54] <bob2> foxgamer: where "fps" = ?
[01:54] <n0odl3> i backed it up as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:54] <oofnik> gentoo is for people who like to mess with stuff.. heh
[01:54] <n0odl3> i tried to vi it but it doesnt show up
[01:54] <n0odl3> please help!
[01:54] <oofnik> i like a system that works
[01:54] <jeanluc> hey where can I get quake for linux ?
[01:54] <harshrealm> hello the link for my pasting is: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4549
[01:54] <foxgamer> fps on the 64bit version I have are around 15. on 32bit version they are around 115
[01:55] <oofnik> ok next question, should i upgrade to breezy from hoary or wipe my system and back stuff up then upgrade?
[01:55] <harshrealm> (my sources.list
[01:55] <n0odl3> please help me
[01:55] <cyphase> how do you allow a computer to access a webmin server on another box?
[01:55] <harshrealm> ssh
[01:55] <bob2> foxgamer: which is of no use
[01:55] <bob2> foxgamer: are you using the same program to measure this?
[01:55] <bob2> jeanluc: install it with synaptic
[01:56] <cyphase> harshrealm, besides that
[01:56] <oofnik> n0odl3 look around in the directory
[01:56] <oofnik> maybe you saved it somewhere else
[01:56] <foxgamer> bob2: I have been comparing it with the atunnel screensaver.
[01:56] <n0odl3> can someone help me? i dont know how to access my xorg.conf backup
[01:56] <n0odl3> i cant boot into gnome!
[01:56] <StDellis> I'm looking for a program for linux that works like Maple for windows? Can someone help me please!
[01:56] <n0odl3> im in the shell help!
[01:56] <oofnik> ok n0odl3 chill
[01:56] <bob2> StDellis: maple
[01:56] <harshrealm> i do not know (i am not qualified to answer your question, & should not have)
[01:56] <oofnik> cd /etc/X11
[01:56] <bob2> StDellis: emacs calc is useful for symbolic stuff, too
[01:56] <jeanluc> bob2 is there quake 3? or is it only 2?
[01:57] <bob2> jeanluc: ...you can check
[01:57] <anto9us> n0odl3, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <StDellis> where can I download maple for linux?
[01:57] <bob2> afaik no one has package quake3 yet
[01:57] <n0odl3> anto9us: this will fix it?
[01:57] <jeanluc> ya I installed the quake 2 data packadge, now how do I run it?
[01:57] <anto9us> n0odl3, if you ran the command I told you earlier which was the reverse of that, yes
[01:58] <bob2> StDellis: the mapl company sells it
[01:58] <anto9us> n0odl3, needs sudo
[01:58] <n0odl3> anto9us: ok ill do that
[01:58] <n0odl3> anto9us: thanx... uhh how do i exit out of irssi?
[01:58] <fletch33> anyone here using azureus
[01:58] <fletch33> mine makes my internet stopworking and it wont mximize size
[01:59] <thrush> n0odl3: /quit
[01:59] <steigweis> CONFUSED: when i run gimp with "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" from console it starts correctly.. BBUT when i add the "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" line to the command field in the gnome application menu, there comes an error, that gimp could noct be found.. why?
[01:59] <anto9us> n0odl3, type /quit
[02:00] <n0odl3> k thnx
[02:00] <LathropWells> +
[02:00] <harshrealm> hello i need help, i pasted my sources.list @ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4549 , but do not know why i can not get...
[02:00] <foxgamer> bob2, The glxgears does not produce any fps details for me to look at
[02:00] <bob2> foxgamer: yes, that's deliberate
[02:00] <bob2> foxgamer: all you care about is if glxinfo says you have direct rendering or not
[02:01] <steigweis> harshrealm: the mirrormax backportserver is down imho
[02:01] <bob2> harshrealm: get rid of everything mentioning 'backports'
[02:01] <mgcross> any enemy territory (linux) users out there..having some strange problems
[02:01] <harshrealm> i see
[02:01] <mgcross> help?
[02:01] <steigweis> harshrealm: you need another backportsource, if you need bp
[02:02] <capiCrimm> cafuego, debugfs is giving me "/dev/sdb1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem", any clue what to do?
[02:02] <lightbright> whats difference between sudo -s and sudo -i ?
[02:02] <bob2> the backport repoitores need a password
[02:02] <cyphase> has anyone else notices that Breezy is harder to set up as a server then Hoary?
[02:02] <cyphase> noticed*
[02:02] <steigweis> lightbright: man sudo
[02:02] <bob2> and it should be yesiwillnotaskforhelpbecauseiwon'tuseitunlessiknowhowitworks
[02:02] <bob2> cyphase: no
[02:02] <lightbright> steigweis: you have any ideas on top of your head?
[02:02] <cafuego> "I thought it was an incompatibility issue not a incapability issue."
[02:03] <bob2> haha
[02:03] <cafuego> - Mother in law
[02:03] <bob2> lightbright: one gives you a login shell, one does not
[02:03] <bob2> lightbright: man bash, InVOCATION section
[02:03] <lightbright> bob2: ok :)
[02:03] <mgcross> I know that ET is not a mission critical app, but I've looked for my own answers and can't find any
[02:03] <cyphase> bob2, do you use webmin?
[02:03] <xed2> yo brian baroeidan here ? (however its spelled)_
[02:03] <bob2> mgcross: then wait and perhaps someone will jump up
[02:03] <bob2> cyphase: haha no
[02:03] <lightbright> how can I get ubuntu to play DVD and VOB and Mpeg files?
[02:03] <foxgamer> bob2, I have just checked and I do not have direct rendering.
[02:04] <bob2> mgcross: better still would be asking your question already
[02:04] <bob2> lightbright: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <synapsis_> does anyone here use gaim, and find that when sending files, that transfer rates are terribly low?
[02:04] <cyphase> bob2, do you use anything besides a text editor?
[02:04] <cyphase> lol
[02:04] <mgcross> bob2: I'll try to be patient ;-D
[02:04] <lightbright> does Ubuntu have access to every program thats available for Debian?
[02:04] <bob2> cyphase: yes
[02:04] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:04] <bob2> lightbright: but mostly
[02:04] <mr-russ> anybody here use qmail with ubuntu?
[02:04] <xed2> synapsis, its the aim oscar protocol, it sucks and is slow
[02:04] <xed2> its normal
[02:04] <bob2> mr-russ: #qmail
[02:04] <cyphase> bob2, like..
[02:04] <xed2> or your client thats receiving could have terrible download
[02:04] <xed2> or!
[02:04] <synapsis_> xed2: i'm on the msn network though, odes that matter?
[02:04] <bob2> mr-russ: I'd strongly recommend against using it of you have to ask for help, tho
[02:04] <steigweis> CONFUSED: when i run gimp with "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" from console it starts correctly.. BBUT when i add the "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" line to the command field in the gnome application menu, there comes an error, that gimp could noct be found.. why?
[02:04] <lightbright> bob2: how can I get a listing of ALL apps etc available for install for Ubuntu 5.10?
[02:04] <mr-russ> bob2: they won't help me build qmail for debian/ubuntu will they?
[02:04] <xed2> just be leet and use irc
[02:05] <bob2> cyphase: like my shell, and my browser and...
[02:05] <xed2> synapsis:msn might be screwing with you, im not sure
[02:05] <cyphase> lol
[02:05] <bimberi> lightbright: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:05] <mr-russ> bob2: I know qmail inside out, it's just getting ubuntu to build the binaries.
[02:05] <xed2> anyhow, dcc send via irc is always the best
[02:05] <capiCrimm> debugfs is giving me "/dev/sdb1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem", any clue what to do?
[02:05] <synapsis_> xed2: can't be l33t, btu they have great connection speeds
[02:05] <bob2> mr-russ: quite possibly, but neither will here, probably
[02:05] <mgcross> bob2: k, I can play just fine, but when I try to start a listen server I get a signal 11
[02:05] <lightbright> bimberi: thaNKS
[02:05] <n0odl3> anto9us: it worked thank you
[02:05] <bob2> mr-russ: get qmail-src and read it's instructions?
[02:05] <xed2> again, im looking for brian B from SDHS  ?
[02:05] <mr-russ> oh well, just do some evil hacks and make it work.
[02:05] <bob2> xed2: this does not appear to have anything to do with ubuntu?
[02:05] <synapsis_> xed2: i recall using msn, and it said "experiencing slow download speeds?  check your firewall" however i don't know how to even do that
[02:05] <xed2> sorry
[02:05] <xed2>  he needs help with ubunutu
[02:05] <mgcross> bob2: I'd really like to be able to play with/against my son
[02:05] <anto9us> n0odl3, yw
[02:05] <xed2> but i dont know his nick in here
[02:06] <bob2> capiCrimm: sounds like disk failing
[02:06] <n0odl3> anto9us: im planning to try to get up tablet to work once again... do i have to xorg.conf.backup thing again
[02:06] <n0odl3> xed2: im brain B
[02:06] <xed2> there you are
[02:06] <oofnik> does anyone experience really bad memory leaks using gdesklets?
[02:06] <xed2> finally i almost got kicked
[02:06] <mr-russ> bob2: yes, but it doesn't create the groups before building the package, it does it in the postinst script, which is too late for qmail-src.  Needs to be done before the compile stage.
[02:06] <xed2>  anyhow synapsis, i dont think its the firewall, that usually means it plain out doesnt even connect/ send
[02:06] <oofnik> i can boot with 150MB memory used, not touch my system for 8 hours, come back and find 250MB used..
[02:06] <bob2> mr-russ: qmail depends on groups being preset on the system at *build* time?
[02:06] <oofnik> with nothing running
[02:06] <bob2> oofnik: do you really know what the output of 'free -m' means?
[02:06] <n0odl3> xed2: is taht you pelteki?
[02:07] <bob2> oofnik: ie you know about cache, right?
[02:07] <xed2> synapsis: but to check i would advise checking out the port forwarding site on how to access your gate way, alsso the firewall and see if you find any options in there
[02:07] <xed2> no
[02:07] <xed2> its freakin munjal
[02:07] <mr-russ> bob2: yes, if you know qmail, you that is does :)  on debain I've successfully built qmail out of the box, but not on ubuntu.
[02:07] <n0odl3> xed2:oh hey
[02:07] <xed2> use the pm window
[02:07] <bob2> wow, whack
[02:07] <lightbright> if I want to install firestarter, I type?  sudo apt-get install firestarter ?
[02:07] <n0odl3> xed:i fixed the problem... good thing i backuped my xorg
[02:08] <xed2> and besides, you;re in the ubuntu channel, yet on the msn network ? "synapsis .... ahaha
[02:08] <mustard5> lightbright, correct
[02:08] <xed2> oh sweet and smart move noodle
[02:08] <harshrealm> thank you for your help
[02:08] <n0odl3> xed:im on msn network?
[02:08] <xed2> noodle:still on irssi or chat ?
[02:08] <bob2> lightbright: yes, but there's little reason to install it on a desktop
[02:08] <xed2> not you noodle, synapsis
[02:08] <n0odl3> xed2:no im on xchat
[02:08] <xed2> ah  thought so
[02:08] <n0odl3> xed2: why dont you just switch to ubuntu today?
[02:08] <xed2> irssi is sweetness
[02:09] <xed2> eh, i got a huge APES final tommororw
[02:09] <xed2> and the physics final we both have on friday
[02:09] <lightbright> bob2: why?
[02:09] <bob2> steigweis: uh, pick one channel
[02:09] <n0odl3> xed2:cool but just let it install and let it go for now
[02:09] <synapsis_> xed2: thanks, where can i find the port forwarding site?
[02:09] <lightbright> mustard5: so everything same as Debian, but I just always add sudo in front?
[02:09] <bob2> lightbright: because there's no point?
[02:09] <n0odl3> xed2:theres not much you have to do to install it anyway
[02:09] <steigweis> bob2: hehe, got me
[02:09] <xed2> synapsis: google it, im not being mean, but when teaching some technology its always good to teach to learn, if you get my drigft
[02:09] <lightbright> mustard5: and to remove something?  sudo apt-get remove --purge foo ?
[02:10] <xed2> welll i know noodle, but we both have that huge physics final.... eh
[02:10] <lightbright> bob2: I need a firewall as I do a lot of netbanking and trading money etc etc
[02:10] <mustard5> lightbright, the --purge will remove config settings, its optional
[02:10] <lightbright> mustard5: yes but the rest is ok?
[02:10] <n0odl3> xed2: yeah... im studying for it too... and taht math thing tommorow
[02:10] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:10] <mustard5> lightbright, yep
[02:10] <bob2> lightbright: that is not the case at all
[02:10] <lightbright> bob2: why?
[02:10] <bob2> and it's a shame windows has removed people's common sense
[02:10] <bob2> lightbright: what does a firewall do?
[02:10] <lightbright> bob2:  are you telling me i never need a firewall?
[02:10] <n0odl3> xed2: man what did i do wrong?
[02:10] <cyphase> anybody hear know anything about Ubuntu Server Dapper?
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: not at all
[02:11] <xed2> the math is easy noodle, just remember the trig ratios for the 30 degree and 45 degree triangle and you're set
[02:11] <lightbright> bob2: it stops people sending me ICMP attacks too
[02:11] <bob2> cyphase: it'll be like breezy, but 6 months newer
[02:11] <cyphase> lol
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: no, that's not the case at all
[02:11] <cyphase> i see..
[02:11] <bob2> cyphase: and supported for 5 years
[02:11] <cyphase> yea
[02:11] <lightbright> bob2: doesnt the firewall stop a hacker keylogging me?
[02:11] <cyphase> maybe i just forgot..
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: no, not at all
[02:11] <n0odl3> can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: this is not windows
[02:11] <mr-russ> bob2: thanks for your help.  I little hacking and we are away :)
[02:11] <lightbright> bob2: and doesnt the firewall stop a hacker getting my passwords for my bank website etc?
[02:11] <cyphase> but i swear Breezy seems harder to set up as a server then hoary
[02:11] <n0odl3> help if your interested
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: if someone has trojaned your system, you have already lost
[02:11] <foxgamer> join #ubuntuforums
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: no, it doesn't do that either
[02:11] <bob2> cyphase: how?
[02:12] <bob2> cyphase: or are you just refering to webmin?
[02:12] <xed2> well im out for noodle, peace
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: all it does is stop network packets
[02:12] <cyphase> ok, maybe i am
[02:12] <lightbright> bob2:  but wont the firewall stoip the person trojaned my system in the first place?
[02:12] <cyphase> :D
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: which is of no use
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:12] <cyphase> i admit
[02:12] <lightbright> bob2:  do you run a firewall?
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: how would they get in to begin with?
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: not on my desktop
[02:12] <lightbright> bob2:  cant they get in through an open port that firewall closes?
[02:12] <cyphase> i guess i grew to reliant on webmin..
[02:12] <cyphase> shame on me :)
[02:12] <tristanmike> the only firewall i have is through my router
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2: does it hurt if I run firestarter? :)
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: this is not windows
[02:13] <n0odl3> can anyone help me with the thread? do i just copy and paste that code?
[02:13] <n0odl3> or where do i edit?
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: ubuntu doesn't have anything listening on the network by default
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: so there's nothing for anyone to try to attack
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2:  ok
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: therefore no need for a firewall
[02:13] <markw> n0odl3: looking back a page, I'm not sure what your asking.
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2: ok but does it hurt if I run firestarter? :) heh
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: it doesn't hurt except in that it's pointless and makes things more complicated
[02:13] <markw> ah, pointer device.
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2:  ok thanks for the learning
[02:14] <n0odl3> markw:do you see what i mean? do i just copy and paste that under the InputDevice thing?
[02:16] <markw> n0odl3: that's just an input device stanza out of xorg.conf or XF86Config-4
[02:16] <n0odl3> markw:so what does that entail exactly?
[02:16] <markw> do this.
[02:17] <lightbright> can gnome do everything KDE can?
[02:17] <n0odl3> markw:can you hold on to taht thought
[02:17] <markw> n0odl3: do this.    open a terminal, and type cat /dev/input/event4
[02:17] <n0odl3> markw:i have to go to an interview
[02:17] <n0odl3> markw: a job interveiw sorry about this
[02:17] <markw> then go to your pad and give it some scribbles and see if you get garbage from that command.
[02:17] <markw> n0odl3: hope it's not a linux admin position. :)
[02:17] <bob2> lightbright: probably
[02:19] <Inchabod> Is there a shockwave for ubuntu?
[02:19] <NoUse> Inchabod as in the browser plugin?
[02:19] <synapsis_> xed2: well i figured out something on my own.  gaim isn't true p2p when sending files over msn, because files are first sent to the msn server, then relayed to the other client
[02:19] <Inchabod> NoUse, Yeah
[02:19] <NoUse> Inchabod yeah
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[02:20] <xed2> yes
[02:20] <xed2> good poiint syanpsis
[02:20] <xed2> i didnt think about that
[02:20] <xed2> but yes that is true
[02:20] <Inchabod> NoUse, Shockwave not flash you know?
[02:20] <xed2> thats why you gotta go with irc =P
[02:20] <lightbright> how can I get Ubuntu to use my Video Card?
[02:20] <NoUse> Inchabod it's in synaptic
[02:21] <Inchabod> kk
[02:21] <bob2> lightbright: bee more specific
[02:21] <synapsis_> xed2: hahaha, man i honestly wish i could send everything through irc, it would be so much easier, but you know the nature of the net
[02:21] <xed2> well
[02:21] <xed2> freak
[02:21] <xed2> just tell any noob you come across
[02:21] <xed2>  to install mirc
[02:21] <xed2> and /server SERVER
[02:21] <Gorth> to anyone willing to help: my x-chat sound doesn't work at all?!
[02:21] <xed2> and /j #channel
[02:22] <GTroy> anyone know of a decent mp3 ripper?
[02:22] <xed2> they dont have to do anything else
[02:22] <synapsis_> xed2: thats too complex for these kids at university =)
[02:22] <xed2> ahaha
[02:22] <xed2> i know what you mean
[02:22] <xed2> im in high school
[02:22] <xed2> its terrible
[02:22] <NoUse> GTroy grip always works well
[02:22] <xed2> but i force those two wonderful commands on them anyways
[02:22] <lightbright> bob2: at installartion Ubuntu chose VESA and I want to change it to use my proper video card, how?
[02:22] <xed2> if only someone could nicely port irssi to win32, now that would be sweeetness
[02:22] <bob2> lightbright: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <GTroy> NoUse: thanks
[02:22] <lightbright> bob2:  ok thanks
[02:22] <bob2> it presumably runs under cygwin
[02:22] <Inchabod> NoUse, What is it called?
[02:22] <Gorth> also, do i need to reformat before updating to breezy??
[02:22] <lightbright> bob2:  and how do I change the Hz from 60 to 85Hz?
[02:23] <synapsis_> xed2: wish i could figure out how to write a decent p2p script for gaim
[02:23] <NoUse> Inchabod maybe I'm wrong, whats the diff between flash and shockwave?
[02:23] <Inchabod> Theres quite a big difference >.<
[02:23] <NoUse> Inchabod you said it was a browser plugin
[02:23] <mr-russ> where can I find docs on creating a packages distribution point?
[02:23] <Inchabod> It is.
[02:24] <Inchabod> For IE.
[02:24] <Inchabod> Not for Firefox.
[02:24] <lightbright> bob2:  how do I change the Hz on my monitor from 60 to 85Hz?
[02:24] <synapsis_> also question, whenever i set my monitor to the sizing of the screen, ubuntu doesn't remember these settings
[02:24] <NoUse> Inchabod well if its only for IE, how do you expect it to run in Linux?
[02:24] <Inchabod> That's why I asked.
[02:24] <Inchabod> :P
[02:24] <Gorth> noUse: wine :D
[02:24] <Inchabod> Gorth, I'm not going to wine IE?
[02:24] <NoUse> !shockwave
[02:24] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[02:24] <NoUse> yeah I guess not
[02:24] <Gorth> i was kidding ;
[02:24] <Gorth> :(
[02:25] <drew_> could someone help me make a symbolic link?  my browser is hating me and I don't know what the command is.
[02:25] <Inchabod> bah
[02:25] <lightbright> whats the best program to use to play DVD and Mpeg and Vob files?
[02:25] <gimmulf> drew_:  man ln
[02:25] <drew_> thanks
[02:25] <Gorth> anywho, does anyone else have problems with sound in x-chat or know how to fix them?
[02:26] <Gorth> or recommend any other IRC programs?
[02:26] <drew_> gimmulf, which directory do you list first?  The link or where it will actually store the files?
[02:26] <bob2> lightbright: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:26] <xed2> oh ya, no0dl3, i got a freakin PCI capure card
[02:26] <xed2> i can cleanly convert your breakdance video to dvd
[02:26] <Astxist_> yay fixed my problem ^_^
[02:26] <sfsindee> gorth:  i use gaim for IRC  -not as full featured but does the job. :)
[02:26] <bimberi> lightbright: try out totem (installed by default), if not happy look at mplayer, vlc, xine ...
[02:27] <gimmulf> drew_:  first target then link name
[02:27] <roy> hey everyone I have ubuntu 5.10 but in synaptic kubuntu doesnt show up
[02:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell lightbright about dvd
[02:27] <gimmulf> drew_:   ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME]
[02:27] <roy> how can i get it to show up?
[02:27] <drew_> gimmulf,  thanks
[02:27] <Astxist_> is it just me or is the network settings (applet?) a little broken?
[02:27] <synapsis_> question, anyone know anything about monitor problems?
[02:27] <gimmulf> drew_:  use -s as option for symbolic
[02:27] <lightbright> bob2:  thanks again
[02:28] <Gorth> thanks sfsindee
[02:28] <Tufriast> anyone got a link to the packages included in kubuntu?
[02:28] <Gorth> sfsindee: where do i get to the IRC in gaim?!
[02:28] <roy> does kubuntu-desktop show up in synaptic by default or do I have to do something...?
[02:28] <lightbright> bimberi:  do they need libdvdcss2?
[02:28] <drew_> gimmulf, ln: `/media/music/dc/torrent/': hard link not allowed for directory
[02:28] <synapsis_> anyoen know how to eject a usbkey safely?
[02:28] <drew_> gimmulf, help?
[02:29] <thread> Did anyone else get their cd's from shipit? I ordered 55 discs, and I just received an envelope with 1 i386 and 1 x86_64
[02:29] <Tufriast> synapsis just unmount i'd suppose
[02:29] <lightbright> thread: 55? :P
[02:29] <synapsis_> Tufriast: i run into an error
[02:29] <Tufriast> try unmounting as root
[02:29] <sfsindee> gorth:  its just a matter of adding an IRC account.  tools>accounts>add
[02:29] <roy> 55!??? probably got stopped by cutsoms
[02:29] <thread> lightbright: oh wow.. I remember the light bright! that toy from long ago
[02:29] <gimmulf> drew_:  did you use -s ?
[02:29] <synapsis_> Tufriast: how
[02:29] <Gorth> sfsindee: doh! thanks
[02:29] <eNiNjA> lol...customs
[02:29] <bimberi> lightbright: usually
[02:29] <nalioth> LjL: you here?
[02:29] <drew_> gimmulf, nope, do I just put that on the end?
[02:29] <lightbright> roy: or a lot of customs guys are now running Ubuntu :)
[02:29] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have read something about using the sync command too
[02:30] <synapsis_> mustard5: regarding the usbkey?
[02:30] <lightbright> thread:  so you like my nick then? :)
[02:30] <drew_> gimmulf, ln /media/music/dc/torrent /home/drew/torrent -s ?
[02:30] <thread> so yeah... just wondering if there's something I don't know...
[02:30] <gimmulf> drew_:  ln -s where/to/ link_name
[02:30] <mustard5> synapsis_, yep read 'man sync'
[02:30] <drew_> gimmulf, ok, thanks
[02:30] <synapsis_> k
[02:30] <Tufriast> there is command do do it...synapsis...
[02:30] <gimmulf> drew_:  if you check the man it says: ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME]
[02:30] <lightbright> thread: I would say that a lot of customs guys are now running Ubuntu :)
[02:31] <Gorth> welp, thanks for the help, guys!
[02:31] <drew_> gimmulf, thanks, I just didn't understand that cus i'm an idiot
[02:31] <Gorth> i'll cy'all later
[02:31] <superbeast> can some1 help me with ati drivers?
[02:31] <lightbright> can I install Konqueror?
[02:31] <Toccy> Guys is there a ubuntu social?
[02:31] <Tufriast> is the package list for ubuntu in the wiki
[02:32] <bimberi> lightbright: sure
[02:32] <Tufriast> if you are using kubuntu lightbright
[02:32] <lightbright> bimberi:  I am used to Konq as a file manager
[02:32] <superbeast> can someone helpo me get americas army working?
[02:32] <Tufriast> just type a web page in the address bar
[02:32] <bimberi> lightbright: it will bring in a number of kde libraries
[02:32] <lightbright> Tufriast: I have to install KDE to use Konqueror as a file manager?
[02:32] <synapsis_> mustard5: i typed man sync, it said that there's 45 lines, however i can only get down to line 18
[02:32] <lightbright> bimberi:  can I install Konq without installing the whole KDE?
[02:33] <Tufriast> yes lightbright
[02:33] <Tufriast> cant do it
[02:33] <Tufriast> sorry, it's KDE only
[02:33] <mustard5> synapsis_, page up and page down
[02:33] <synapsis_> mustard5: smart =D
[02:33] <LjL> lightbright: yes, but it will install a lot of KDE dependencies anyway
[02:33] <mustard5> synapsis_, q to exit
[02:33] <lightbright> Tufriast: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <synapsis_> nope, thats as far as i can go =(
[02:33] <lightbright> LjL: ok
[02:33] <roy> lightbright: I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop too
[02:33] <alx_> what prog to install to connect via ssh
[02:33] <roy> but i get "E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <roy> "
[02:34] <Agrajag> alx_: ssh
[02:34] <Tufriast> eh, yeah, is it worth it lightbright? I'd just stick with good ol' Firefox - I use kde now, and it's decent....but im not givin' up my extensios
[02:34] <lightbright> can I install kubuntu-desktop KDE on modem?  how much needs to be insatlled?
[02:34] <Tufriast> extensions*
[02:34] <alx_> not open shh ^
[02:34] <alx_> \?
[02:34] <Astxist_> AdBlockPlus :)
[02:34] <nerdzyboy> hi
[02:34] <alx_> something like that
[02:34] <lightbright> Tufriast: I use Firefox, im talking about file manager
[02:34] <Tufriast> yeah, adblock, and all-in-one gestures = win
[02:34] <Agrajag> alx_: it's the same program
[02:34] <nerdzyboy> I'm trying to use ubuntu on a laptop...
[02:34] <lightbright> I dont want to use Konmqueror as web brwoers
[02:35] <lightbright> does Gnome have a file manager similar to Konqueror that has 2 split windows?
[02:35] <nerdzyboy> when I plug a second monitor the image looked squashed (horizontally), I tried changing the resolution but no luck...
[02:35] <nerdzyboy> How can I get this right?
[02:35] <bimberi> lightbright: probably infeasible, you can see by typing "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" (146M for me)
[02:36] <bimberi> lightbright: er, sudo aptitude...
[02:36] <mustard5> synapsis_, my sync manual is basically all on one page
[02:36] <mustard5> synapsis_, there is not much else to read
[02:37] <nerdzyboy> ???
[02:37] <Tufriast> anyone know where i can get a package list of kubuntu
[02:37] <synapsis_> mustard5: yeah, doesn't give me a lot to go on
[02:37] <erisco> can anyone please help me get limewire working? it is absolutely vital
[02:37] <Tufriast> im just checking to see that oo.org and the vitals are there
[02:37] <mustard5> synapsis_, basically I think you just type sync in terminal
[02:37] <Tufriast> erisco you can just download it and run it
[02:37] <NoUse> !tell erisco about limewire
[02:37] <Tufriast> !tell
[02:38] <nerdzyboy> Anyone? Please?
[02:38] <synapsis_> mustard5: did, didn't do nothing =)
[02:38] <lightbright> bimberi: So does Gnome have a file manager where I can browse files and copy from one place to another etc, that is similar to Konqueror that has 2 split windows?
[02:38] <erisco> no, i have java installed correctly. i have limewire installed correctly... no go when i hit the runLime.sh
[02:38] <mustard5> synapsis_, well it probably does. :)
[02:38] <synapsis_> hahaha
[02:38] <gimmulf> How can i check how many users my webhost will handle?
[02:38] <NoUse> erisco can you be more specific than "no go"?
[02:39] <bimberi> lightbright: i don't know sorry
[02:39] <mustard5> synapsis_, when I did it I could here my hard drive doing something for a second
[02:39] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok ty anyway
[02:39] <lightbright> anyone else know?
[02:39] <erisco> NoUse, not really. nothing happens, I execute it... and nothing. literally.
[02:39] <bimberi> lightbright: i use nautilus but i don't know about the split windows thang
[02:39] <lightbright> bimberi:  what do you use to browse and copy etc etc?
[02:39] <NoUse> erisco is the java executable in your path?
[02:39] <lightbright> bimberi:  how do you copy stuff from 1 hard drive to another etc>?
[02:39] <Tufriast> quit
[02:39] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have my side case open all the time so I can hear everything my hard drive is doing :)
[02:39] <erisco> NoUse, you mean permissions?
[02:40] <bimberi> bimberi: i mostly use the cli for that sort of thing
[02:40] <erisco> NoUse, what i the command for that again?
[02:40] <NoUse> erisco no, I mean can you run java from the shell and get the java vm
[02:40] <synapsis_> mustard5: very smart idea.  i have a dell system which i ordered, so i don't have an option of opening anything =)
[02:40] <erisco> NoUse, i doubt it but i might ahve missed that step
[02:40] <bimberi> lightbright: er, s/bimberi/lightbright/ (gawd, did it again)
[02:40] <mustard5> synapsis_, well its not good for keeping dust out ;)
[02:40] <NoUse> erisco what happens when you run 'java' from the shell?
[02:40] <erisco> java shell? never heard of it
[02:40] <erisco> NoUse, how do I get into it?
[02:40] <synapsis_> mustard5: hahahha, yeah that could be trouble =)
[02:41] <mustard5> synapsis_, I'm just too lazy and don't like putting it back on
[02:41] <lightbright> bimberi: what?
[02:41] <NoUse> erisco I think the console is under accessories
[02:41] <synapsis_> mustard5: i don't blaim you =D
[02:41] <erisco> NoUse, nope
[02:41] <erisco> NoUse, is there not a terminal command?
[02:41] <lightbright> I need k3b too it seems
[02:41] <bimberi> lightbright: nvm, i answered your question with a post starting with "bimberi:" (D'Oh)
[02:41] <lightbright> bimberi:  hehe ;)
[02:42] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have scary thoughts of something blowing up inside and taking an eye out :P
[02:42] <lightbright> bimberi: whats nvm?
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco you want to pull up the Terminal
[02:42] <bimberi> never mind
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, i jst did
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco its under accessories on my machine
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, not on mine
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco and when you run 'java'?
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, you using 5.10?
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco yeah
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, well i can run java
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, it works fine with mozilla
[02:42] <Mark_Echo> after compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which
[02:42] <Mark_Echo> requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.
[02:42] <NoUse> have you tried running runLime.sh from the Terminal?
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> Where do I locate $KDEDIRS ???
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> I just compiled knzb.. and in the install notes, he mentions I should paste a file into $KDEDIRS !??!
[02:43] <anto9us> Mark_Echo, no pun but have you tried to echo it?
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> yup
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> it says nothing
[02:44] <anto9us> Mark_Echo, then it isn't set
[02:44] <Mark_Echo> no path
[02:44] <gandi> Hi. I'm trying to install Kubuntu 5.10 and after the first reboot it loops on postinstall configuration of apt
[02:44] <gandi> it asks me if I want to add another apt source, I say NO
[02:44] <Mark_Echo> im new to linux sorry :/ I dunno what to do.. I just want knzb to wokrk
[02:44] <gandi> and it configures apps and asks for it once more
[02:44] <Mark_Echo> work*
[02:44] <erisco> sigh.... looking for the limewire folder
[02:44] <erisco> found it
[02:44] <gandi> any idea on how to fix it/workaround?
[02:44] <mustard5> gandi, very strange
[02:44] <anto9us> Mark_Echo, what is knzb?
[02:44] <haTem> i'm having a strange problem, my "sudo" appears to be broken.. no matter what command i run with it, nothing happens (no errors, can't ctrl-c)... any ideas?
[02:45] <Mark_Echo> it's a newsreader client, good for nzb files (headers as one)
[02:45] <mustard5> haTem, have you just installed ?
[02:45] <switchcat> weird, I've got a partially installed system that SEEMS to work.  I've had a major headache with CDs I've written from three different downloads not getting through the entire process.  So now I have a box that I'm not sure what is installed on it, and for which I have no root password...
[02:45] <user01> how do i fix lilo so that there is a boot menu?  right now it is just automatically booting into linux
[02:45] <gandi> mustard5: I'm in the middle of that, so I can provide any debug data needed
[02:45] <erisco> NoUse, it is complaining about my java version
[02:45] <erisco> NoUse, or java in general
[02:45] <lightbright> bimberi: oiswym :)
[02:45] <NoUse> erisco well now you know what the problem is
[02:45] <erisco> NoUse, it says it wants 1.4+, and it says i have 1.4.2
[02:45] <switchcat> any suggestions for next steps to 1) get a root password (or is there a default?) and to install additional needed components (if any) from the net?
[02:45] <zenrox> Mark_Echo,  knzb is in the repos
[02:46] <mustard5> gandi, I'm not sure I know whats going on even if you did give me debug info ;)
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> user01,  you installed lilo? ubuntu defaults to useing grub.
[02:46] <erisco> NoUse, it also says the version is suitable
[02:46] <lightbright> bimberi:  oiswym = Oh I see what you mean :)
[02:46] <bimberi> lightbright: lol, i've not seen that one (but i got it) :)
[02:46] <Mark_Echo> zenrox... sorry I don't understand "repos"?
[02:46] <user01> Dr_Willis: i didnt install lilo...oh it is grub?
[02:46] <NoUse> erisco I gave up on limewire a long time ago
[02:46] <erisco> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:46] <gandi> mustard5: anyone who I could contact?
[02:46] <zenrox> !tell Mark_Echo about repostories
[02:46] <erisco> this line looks a bit funky
[02:46] <haTem> mustard5: nope, i've had this isntall for a couple of months
[02:46] <lightbright> bimberi:  I just made it up ;)
[02:46] <haTem> mustard5: it's been working fine up until today
[02:46] <NoUse> erisco you might need to install the sun java jvm
[02:46] <mustard5> gandi, there are others in this channel who might know...keep trying
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> user01,  :P yep.. edit the grub.conf and put in where it shows the menu and put in a delay if ya want.
[02:46] <Mark_Echo> eh that's weird.. I only got 2 newsreader client in my repo
[02:46] <erisco> NoUse, i have java tho....
[02:47] <bimberi> lightbright: thought so :)
[02:47] <gandi> anyone else who could help with Ubuntu install process?
[02:47] <mustard5> haTem, are you sure you logged in with your admin account?
[02:47] <Mark_Echo> and on the main site it clearly states "no build ready"
[02:47] <zenrox> Mark_Echo,  enable  the multiverse and universe
[02:47] <erisco> NoUse, if i cannot get this to work i have just failed my project...
[02:47] <drummer> !info app gnome-pilot
[02:47] <zenrox> then thare will be more
[02:47] <haTem> mustard5: pretty sure, i've only got 1 account
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> user01,  it may be menu.lst it uses.. not sure.
[02:47] <Mark_Echo> zenrox, already done
[02:47] <mustard5> haTem, ah ok
[02:47] <synapsis_> where can i find information on what the macro keys are
[02:47] <NoUse> erisco so I'm helping you with homework?
[02:47] <haTem> mustard5: dunno if this means anything, but "ps ax" shows " 6205 ?        D      0:00 sudo ls" and similar for all of the sudo processes
[02:47] <erisco> Exception during runtime initialization
[02:47] <erisco>  java.lang.NullPointerException
[02:47] <erisco>  <<No stacktrace available>>
[02:47] <erisco> oops
[02:48] <erisco> that shouldn't of been multiple lines
[02:48] <erisco> sorry
[02:48] <NoUse> erisco install the sun java jre
[02:48] <erisco> NoUse, in a way
[02:48] <erisco> NoUse, i dont get it, i already have java
[02:48] <mustard5> haTem, have you got a root password set up by chance?
[02:48] <mustard5> haTem, I know its disabled by default but you never know ;)
[02:48] <haTem> mustard5: nope, unless ubuntu has one set up by default
[02:48] <haTem> mustard5: lol
[02:49] <mustard5> haTem, no it wont :)
[02:49] <NoUse> erisco it obviously wants a different version
[02:49] <NoUse> erisco get the sun kre
[02:49] <NoUse> jre*
[02:49] <StDellis> Is linux very limited on what printers work for it? I want to install a dell printer but its not listed and I cant find the driver?
[02:49] <mustard5> haTem, ok, then you might try recovery mode from you grub menu at bootup, you should be able to reach a root prompt using that and run visudo to check your sudoers file
[02:49] <erisco> NoUse, installing another version will not conflict will it?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  check the cups.org site and see what they say about the printer.
[02:50] <mustard5> haTem, sometimes grub requires that you hit 'Esc' to see the menu
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  also a 'dell' printer is proberly just some other comanies printer with a dell logo on it.
[02:50] <JonasNZ> hey i need some help installing ubuntu on my g3 tower
[02:50] <NoUse> erisco you'll probably just want to replace what you have the the sun jre
[02:50] <haTem> mustard5: hmm, okay, i'll try that in a sec :)
[02:50] <StDellis> Dr_willis how do I find out if its a different company? and which one for that matter
[02:50] <erisco> NoUse, replace? how can i just replace it?
[02:51] <xed2> holy crap im leaving
[02:51] <mustard5> haTem, its a bit of strange issue, normally you would get some type of error message
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  google is your friend. :P
[02:51] <user01> how do i figure out of lilo or grub was installed?  i thought it said it was installing lilo by default
[02:51] <NoUse> !tell erisco about java
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  could check the output of 'dmesg' when you plug the printer in also.
[02:51] <haTem> mustard5: would reinstalling sudo do anything at all?
[02:51] <haTem> doh, i can't even do that
[02:51] <haTem> lol
[02:51] <mustard5> haTem, I doubt it
[02:52] <haTem> can't run synaptic/apt-get as user :P
[02:52] <StDellis> dr_willis sorry I dont understand that? I'm new to linux :S
[02:52] <mustard5> haTem, what you need to look at first is your /etc/sudoers file using the visudo command from a root prompt
[02:52] <erisco> NoUse, I already read that... it is what I am following now
[02:52] <NoUse> erisco the Sun java section?
[02:52] <haTem> mustard5: what should it say?
[02:52] <StDellis> dr_willis it detects the printer as Dell Photo Printer 720 but I cant install it
[02:52] <erisco> NoUse, yes
[02:53] <Mark_Echo> sorry noob here: requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS ****Where do I locate $KDEDIRS ?!??
[02:53] <NoUse> erisco ok, so follow that and install the Sun jre
[02:53] <Toma-> !fat
[02:53] <ubotu> Toma-: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:53] <Toma-> !vfat
[02:53] <ubotu> from memory, vfat is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  check the CUPS homepage and see what they say about it. Ubuntu  uses the CUPS printing system
[02:53] <mustard5> haTem, it should either show your username or a %admin group listed along with root having all privileges
[02:53] <erisco> I already have before, is it safe to do it again?
[02:53] <JonasNZ> can anyone point me in the right direction as to how to get my g3 tower to boot the install cd
[02:53] <tomaj> Mark_Echo $KDEDIRS is a variable that should point to the directories where kde files are stored
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  normally ya hold down the "c" key.
[02:54] <erisco> still nothing NoUse
[02:54] <Mark_Echo> tomaj, so it can be anywhere right? Is there a way for me to check.. once again im sorry.. im REALLY new
[02:54] <NoUse> erisco you need to point your session to the Sun jre binaries
[02:54] <synapsis_> can anyone point me in the direction to understand what the shortcut keys are for ubuntu?
[02:54] <mustard5> gandi, try describing your problem again periodically ( not too often though) ;)
[02:54] <erisco> NoUse, huh?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> try 'echo $KDEDIRS'  and see what its set to.
[02:55] <StDellis> ok just search for Dell then?
[02:55] <NoUse> erisco and I'm guessing that is what you are supposed to be learning how to do via this project
[02:55] <tomaj> Mark_echo no need to appologise we were all new once, the kde dirs its refering to i think is the /lib/kde3 but im not sure
[02:55] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis it doesnt detect the cd
[02:55] <erisco> NoUse, the project is nothing to do with limewire
[02:55] <erisco> NoUse, or computers
[02:55] <tomaj> Mark_Echo and do what Dr_Willis suggested first
[02:55] <NoUse> erisco ?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  ive had such hassles getting mac machines to see the cd's ive ended up going to the 'openfirmeare' and booting the cd that way.
[02:55] <erisco> NoUse, oh forget it
[02:56] <StDellis> !ping
[02:56] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, stdellis.
[02:56] <tomaj> how do i get x-chat to autocomplete nicknames?
[02:56] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis what do i do in openfirmware to get it to boot
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  some funky odd key combo - like alt-option-o-f
[02:57] <nalioth> tomaj: tab key
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  then ya can get to some shell like interface and i forget the commands to make it boot the cd.
[02:57] <Mark_Echo> tx guys :) I've tried to echo $KDEDIRS and there's no result, just a blank space
[02:57] <tomaj> thanx nalioth
[02:57] <StDellis> Dr_willis I cant find anything on that Cups site about my driver? Should I guess that it doesnt work with linux?
[02:57] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis yeah im in open firmware, its just getting it to boot
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  'with CUPS' - Linux has nothing todo with it. :P
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  and its possible its a clone of some other printer that does work.. try googleing for that 'printer make and linux'
[02:58] <StDellis> Dr_willis oh do I have to download CUPS?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  CUPS is the default ubuntu printing software - its allready there.
[02:58] <JayLv99> hey - what is teh default root password for ubuntu?
[02:58] <tomaj> Mark_Echo: what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:58] <JayLv99> 'cause I just installed it, and apparently it never asked me for a password.
[02:58] <Agrajag> JayLv99: there is no root password
[02:58] <Agrajag> Use sudo.
[02:58] <Agrajag> !rootsudo
[02:59] <ubotu> rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:59] <user01> can someone help me figure out what is up with my configuration...why there is no boot menu for the other partition?
[02:59] <enajeirak> im sorry were you guys making out?
[03:00] <enajeirak> hallo
[03:00] <enajeirak> well this is awkword
[03:00] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[03:00] <mustard5> user01, have you tried pressing 'Esc' at boot for the grub menu?
[03:00] <JayLv99> alrighty, ty Agrajag
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  first hit on google says --->  The Dell 720 can be used with the Lexmark Z615 printer driver
[03:00] <haTem> mustard5: it looks normal to me, it has the %admin line :-/
[03:01] <tomaj> enajeirak: are you smoking crack?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> and if its a Lexmark printer... well.. lets say ive thrown away several of those.
[03:01] <user01> mustard5: let me try...
[03:01] <mustard5> haTem, I guess you need to find out whether you are still in the %admin group
[03:01] <mustard5> haTem, either that or just change the %admin part to your username
[03:01] <tomaj> lol Dr_Willis Lexmarks are good door stoppers nothing more
[03:01] <haTem> mustard5: okay, i'll give that a shot :P
[03:01] <enajeirak> as a matter of fact no
[03:01] <enajeirak> just bored
[03:02] <mustard5> haTem, k good luck
[03:02] <haTem> mustard5: thank you :)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> tomaj,  i wouldent even use them for that.
[03:02] <matthew_w> Hey - is there a way to go even louder than the volume can normally go in Ubuntu... ?
[03:02] <enajeirak> are youuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:02] <synapsis_> is anyone here doing audio editting?
[03:02] <mustard5> matthew_w, turn your speakers up?
[03:02] <user01> mustard: it just says lilo 22.6.1, so i think lilo was installed by default
[03:02] <tomaj> Dr_Willis: they might just splash ink everywhere...
[03:02] <matthew_w> mustard5; software wise
[03:02] <StDellis> dr_willis I found that now yes but I'm trying to do the install when I go to change root to su - and put in my root pass it doesnt auth failed?
[03:02] <Agrajag> matthew_w: apt-get install spinal-tap, all the volume controls will go to 11
[03:03] <io_error> Hm, I'm getting a 404 on breezy-backports; do I have the wrong repository or something?
[03:03] <blackhat> Whats a good program to Copy DVD's and have them work in DVD Players?
[03:03] <mustard5> matthew_w, are you just using the master volume control or double clicking and using the the more advanced controller?
[03:03] <Agrajag> io_error: I don't think breezy-backports exists yet
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  use 'sudo' not 'su -'    -- Its a Ubuntu "feature" for more security
[03:03] <matthew_w> mustard5; both
[03:03] <io_error> Agrajag: hm, it says in the /topic that it exists?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> !tell StDellis  about sudo
[03:03] <matthew_w> it's loud, I just need it even louder (surround sound here)
[03:03] <tomaj> enajeirak: lol this is a support channel, idle banter is generally discouraged :) call a friend, that usually helps my boredom
[03:03] <Agrajag> oh it does?
[03:03] <mustard5> matthew_w, k, I'm at a loss then sorry
[03:03] <Agrajag> my mistake
[03:03] <io_error> now, where IS it?
[03:04] <tomaj> matthew_w: what sound card?
[03:04] <Agrajag> heckifIknow
[03:04] <enajeirak> yes i know, im accually waiting for someone to meet me here that was going to help me with somthing
[03:04] <mustard5> io_error, i would just disable backports
[03:04] <matthew_w> tomaj; creative PCI soundblaster
[03:04] <io_error> this I have in /etc/apt/sources.list: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:04] <user01> mustard5: it goes right from the bios screen to lilo22.6.1..........
[03:04] <io_error> mustard5: I have it disabled already - that's not my question :)
[03:04] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis any ideas at all?
[03:04] <matthew_w> Agrajag; what repository is that in, I can't find it
[03:04] <tomaj> matthew_w: if its live then i had problems with that too, can you hear anything from your back channels?
[03:05] <mustard5> user01, ah you use lilo..hmmm..I have never used that myself
[03:05] <JayLv99> hey - I'm working on installing JRE, and I got this error message after agreeing to the license terms and whatnot
[03:05] <JayLv99> it says "error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)"
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  on what?
[03:05] <JayLv99> nd then "error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm"
[03:05] <matthew_w> tomaj; yes, It's loud and clear, I just need to go even ridiculously louder
[03:05] <Agrajag> matthew_w: that's a joke
[03:05] <darrochfamily> my HP Deskjet 710C won't work in kububtu 5.10 I've posted the cups error log in flood can somebody help me?
[03:05] <matthew_w> Agrajag; lol.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> darrochfamily,  that a printer-scanner combo?
[03:05] <Agrajag> you've never seen the movie I guess :/
[03:05] <tomaj> matthew_w: have you pulled both PCM, Master and the knob to the highest?
[03:05] <matthew_w> Agrajag; well don't own me.
[03:05] <StDellis> !tell StDellis cups
[03:05] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[03:05] <io_error> grub is your friend
[03:06] <user01> well im editing /etc/lilo.conf and nothing is happening
[03:06] <haTem> mustard5: i replaced %admin with my username and it seems to work now :), thanks for your help
[03:06] <mustard5> haTem, well done :)
[03:06] <matthew_w> tomaj; yes.
[03:06] <matthew_w> lo
[03:06] <matthew_w> l
[03:06] <haTem> i also set the root password just in case something like that every happens again
[03:06] <tomaj> StDellis: use /msg ubotu cups to avoid spaming channel
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> user01,  after eding the lilo.conf you need to rerun lilo to make the mbr get updated.
[03:06] <io_error> user01: after editing lilo.conf you need to re-run lilo, every time
[03:06] <mustard5> haTem, you must have been taken out of the %admin group somehow
[03:06] <io_error> sudo /sbin/lilo
[03:06] <darrochfamily> Dr_Willis, no just a printer
[03:06] <user01> oh thanks!
[03:06] <thread> light/wk
[03:06] <tomaj> matthew_w: go to edit > preferences in volume control
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> darrochfamily,  check the ubuntu wiki's and the cups homepage. for details is step 1 i think.
[03:07] <haTem> mustard5: that's pretty weird, i havn't messed with the groups at all
[03:07] <everton137> Hi, I am trying to ./configure a plugin for gaim, but checking for GAIM... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim) were not met.
[03:07] <everton137> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[03:07] <io_error> blackhat: you need to paste the contents of the mkisodebug.txt file
[03:07] <darrochfamily> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[03:07] <JayLv99> ugh...
[03:07] <JayLv99> what's with Ubuntu and RPMs?
[03:07] <mustard5> haTem, its a mystery then... :)
[03:07] <JayLv99> how do I use alien ?
[03:07] <everton137> Can someone help me? Which value shoul I atribute to PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[03:08] <tomaj> JayLv99: it hardly ever works
[03:08] <haTem> mustard5: lol :P
[03:08] <io_error> JayLv99: alien file.rpm should be sufficient
[03:08] <tomaj> JayLv99: at least not for me
[03:08] <JayLv99> 'k
[03:08] <synapsis_> i'm haivng a hard time understanding why my usbkey isn't being recognized
[03:08] <io_error> but you best bet is to find a .deb :)
[03:08] <JayLv99> let's hope alien works for JRE.
[03:08] <mustard5> synapsis_, I wrestle with that issue every day :)
[03:08] <JayLv99> *starts praying*
[03:08] <io_error> JayLv99: which JRE?
[03:08] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have no idea why mine is not recognised either
[03:08] <JayLv99> latest edition
[03:08] <Agrajag> JayLv99: Just follow the guide on the wiki
[03:08] <runedude5> hey , has anyone here got their dell 720 printer working (aka.. lexmark z615)
[03:08] <runedude5> ?
[03:09] <JayLv99> jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.rpm
[03:09] <tomaj> !java
[03:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:09] <io_error> yeah, the guide on the FAQ works fine
[03:09] <mustard5> synapsis_, I keep unplugging it and pluggin it in again
[03:09] <io_error> JayLv99: oops
[03:09] <synapsis_> mustard5: works eventually?
[03:09] <io_error> JayLv99: wrong package :)
[03:09] <JayLv99> oops?
[03:09] <JayLv99> oops is a bad thing
[03:09] <JayLv99> >_>
[03:09] <JayLv99> <_<
[03:09] <io_error> hm, my USB key is recognized
[03:09] <io_error> JayLv99: you have another large download ahead of you :)
[03:09] <mustard5> synapsis_, it gets recognised then I mount it and it belongs to root and I can only read
[03:09] <JayLv99> oh, joy.
[03:09] <JayLv99> how long?
[03:09] <mustard5> synapsis_, it worked fine for ages, then suddenly started playing up
[03:10] <mustard5> synapsis_, I must have changed something along the line
[03:10] <tomaj> JayLv99: have you tried the wiki method?
[03:10] <io_error> synapsis_: does the usbkey show up in System > Administration > Disks ?
[03:10] <JayLv99> tomaj - just about to.
[03:11] <everton137> Hi. How do I adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH for compile plugins for gaim?
[03:11] <n0odl3> markw:i am back
[03:11] <everton137> Which valeu should I put?
[03:11] <JayLv99> ok, it just said that the deb file is generated, now how do I install from that?
[03:11] <Vatrodux> do you speak spanish
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> This is what im trying to do
[03:11] <synapsis_> io_error: nope
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> after compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.  If you
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> haven't installed it properly, you will find you are very short on toolbar
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> buttons, particularly the "Start Download" button!
[03:11] <n0odl3> markw:can you help me with the xconf?
[03:12] <tomaj> JayLv99: you shouldnt need to do any of tat
[03:12] <io_error> synapsis_: driver problem, then
[03:12] <synapsis_> io_error: however it says its charging
[03:12] <n0odl3> can someone help me with this thread?
[03:12] <tomaj> JayLv99: are you following the debian guide you found through google?