[19:47] <pangolin> goddard: please mind your attitude, this channel is not a one stop shop. I sent you a pm please take a look at it
[19:47] <urlin2u> havermyer, ask any questions if this is confusing.
[19:47] <auronandace> !attitude | goddard
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> goddard  it seems you've come to the wrong channel
[19:47] <ikonia> ok - I think it's got the message
[19:48] <goddard> i said please
[19:48] <LargePrime> lol
[19:48] <pangolin> goddard: drop it :)
[19:48] <ikonia> goddard: the topic of the channel is ubuntu support, there are other channels for non-ubuntu topics (such as using google)
[19:48] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust, the thing is, DHCP seems to be working, else my other device that is usually connected with that cable wouldn't be working. I'm just not sure why ubuntu is not getting the requited info from the router
[19:48] <urlin2u> goddard, your lucky ikonia is in a good mood bro he has the ban hammer.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> !jp| Saiki
[19:49] <LucidGuy> Confused..  if a view my .bash_history I find historical commands i'm looking for.  Yet if I history|grep command I don't?  Comments?
[19:49] <Saiki> yea.. thought it was gonna be jp lol
[19:49] <goddard> urlin2u: thats what my mom says
[19:49] <havermyer> urlin2u: digesting what you had to say lol... what's wierd is that i get the same problem if i try to install using wubi, which only creates virtual disks in the win fs... i'll give your advice a shot.  thanks for your help
[19:49] <boba88> ikonia: and i guess it is possible to upgrage the 64 bit version of ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 64 bit
[19:49] <boba88> ?
[19:49] <ikonia> boba88: sure it is
[19:49] <infernal> Can anyone help me out with  and error? Error BrokenCount > 0. Got it after a failed installation of Eclipse.
[19:49] <pangolin> boba88: not directly
[19:49] <urlin2u> goddard, your momma is so fat that...
[19:49] <ikonia> urlin2u: also unacceptable
[19:49] <boba88> pangolin: how?
[19:49] <urlin2u> ikonia, soory my bad. :)
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  what info is that exactly?
[19:49] <ikonia> !upgrade > boba88
[19:50] <ikonia> boba88: ubottu just sent you a private message with a link in, it's worth a read
[19:50] <pangolin> !upgrade > boba88
[19:51] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust, well, apparently it doesn't get the right IPs from the router I guess, else it'd be connecting to the internet with no problem. Or an error might be techincal even, I can't say at this point..
[19:51] <paolo1> gertral
[19:51] <Jak2000> i am installed LAMP(in the first  installation of my server), how to verifi if installed apache+mysql+php ?
[19:52] <{GiGi}> 802.1x security is disabled, IPv4 is set to DHCP, IPv6 is disabled
[19:52] <{GiGi}> not having a cloned MAC set shouldn't be the cause either
[19:52] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  there are a couple of was about doing that. 1st for apache2 just open a browser and type in the IP address
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  you mean the ip addresses are not in the same range as the router's ip address?
[19:52] <rcmaehl> I need help. My webcam isn't showing up under /dev/video* (/dev/video0 is my tvtuner) how do I make the pc recognize the camera?
[19:53] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  for php you can make the file under /var/www/index.html   to be index.php and put some php code in there
[19:53] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust, shouldn't it use the IP it gets from the router?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  idd, that's why i'm asking
[19:54] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  mysql    in termina type in    mysql -u <username> -p    then hit enter
[19:55] <cha0sbg> Guys, what will be the result if someone that uses Optimus install ubuntu ? Will it use the build in slow video card or the fast GPU by default ?
[19:55] <rpg32> anyone good with webcams problems?
[19:55] <{GiGi}> it seems like it doesn't get any info from the router
[19:55] <rpg32> i can get the webcam working in camorama but not cheese
[19:55] <x-act> hello
[19:55] <rpg32> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Plus
[19:55] <ikonia> !webcam > rpg32
[19:55] <rpg32> I have already tried those pages
[19:55] <rpg32> they are not helpful
[19:56] <ikonia> rpg32: so say that instead of just repeating the same thing over and over
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  if does not get *any* info, it sounds like a hardware issue to me
[19:56] <{GiGi}> I thought about that too, apparently this issue is on both of the machines I've gotten
[19:56] <rpg32> i did say that already
[19:56] <ray_> hi all. anyone here gotten lexmark printers to work in ubuntu?
[19:57] <rpg32> apparently repeating in required
[19:57] <cfhowlett> rpg32: try a different webcam tool: guvcview
[19:57] <rpg32> ok, i'll look at that
[19:57] <auronandace> ray_: depends which one
[19:57] <bobweaver> rpg32:  cheese does not work for you ? tryed vlc ?
[19:57] <rpg32> vlc doesn't work either
[19:57] <x-act> hey, is a german support channel there??????????
[19:57] <roberto> salve
[19:57] <ikonia> x-act: #ubuntu-de
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> !de| x-act
[19:58] <x-act> thank uuuu
[19:58] <roberto> list
[19:58] <ikonia> roberto: please don't
[19:58] <ikonia> !list > roberto
[19:58] <bobweaver> roberto:  not a file aharing channel
[19:58] <roberto> -list
[19:58] <Jak2000> ok bobweaver,
[19:58] <Jak2000> apache ok
[19:58] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  good
[19:58] <Somelauw> Is it generally cleaner to download a makefile from a website or to use some ppa if software in the standard repository is outdated like usual?
[19:58] <ikonia> Somelauw: neither
[19:59] <roberto> !list
[19:59] <rpg32> it works with guvcviewer
[19:59] <rpg32> but still not cheese or skype
[19:59] <cha0sbg> umm guys, is there a something diferent between normal cd and live cd ? as far as i know u can use normal cd to try ubuntu too so i dont get it
[20:00] <Jak2000> ok bobweaver, mysql ok
[20:00] <Somelauw> I want to install a new version of eclipse and the repositoty still has 3.5 instead of 3.7
[20:00] <ikonia> Somelauw: what is in 3.7 that you want ?
[20:00] <freedly> cha0sbg, there is aalternative as well as a miimal install as well.
[20:00] <Somelauw> But I haven't received any updates so far
[20:00] <cha0sbg> Somelauw: compile manually ?
[20:00] <zykotick9> cha0sbg: where are you seeing "normal cd"?
[20:00] <Somelauw> ikonia: Better integration with maven
[20:00] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  good
[20:00] <Jak2000> for php
[20:00] <Jak2000> googling
[20:00] <ikonia> Somelauw: either method will come with quite big risks of damaging the ubuntu core components
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> cha0sbg  with a live CD, you can try ubuntu without installing it
[20:01] <x-act> i cant open it, /join #ubuntu-de
[20:01] <FOXNET> hi all i am having an opengl problem can any one help me
[20:01] <cha0sbg> i refer to the default download of ubuntu, and i see there is another called live
[20:01] <ikonia> x-act: what is the error ?
[20:01] <rpg32> i get the following error with cheese: libv4l2: error turning on stream: Input/output error
[20:01] <Somelauw> ikonia: that sounds very scary
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  it is
[20:02] <ikonia> Somelauw: to be honest, it is, unless you are %101 confident with how to build software cleanly, or %110 understand what the PPA contains and how it will change your system
[20:02] <ikonia> Somelauw: it's not a good situation
[20:02] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  put <% phpinfo(); %>  in /var/www/index.html   and change name to be   index.php
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  do you need the bleeding edge for developping reasons?
[20:03] <x-act> there is no error
[20:03] <rpg32> so why would my webcam work with some applications but not others?
[20:03] <ikonia> x-act: why can you not join #ubuntu-de
[20:03] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: No, it is just that I have all kinds of problems with setting up M2_REPO and maybe the new version has improvements.
[20:03] <Somelauw> Since version 3.5 is pretty old.
[20:03] <wjlroe> oh it appears Inconsolata isn't Unicode. works with rxvt - not with urxvt. Hmm
[20:04] <FOXNET> when I try to run opengl based apllication i got an error when I check with glxinfo i got http://pastebin.com/A9jyREYU can some one help me
[20:04] <zykotick9> wjlroe: good catch!
[20:04] <Jak2000> bobweaver: cd /var/www/     vi i.php
[20:05] <freedly> x-act, should go there with /join #ubuntu-de or click on it here to join
[20:05] <rpg32> anybody have any ideas?
[20:05] <zykotick9> FOXNET: looks like you might not have your graphics drivers installed
[20:05] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  you have used hosting services ion the past ?
[20:05] <Jak2000> and here write: <?php phpinfo() ?>       ESC ESC, :wq and give me a error: "i.php" E212: Can't open file for writing
[20:05] <user33> i have an old netbook and i was thinking of running a cut down version of ubuntu. its an eee pc with an intel atom. has anyone run into any issues with these types of netbook
[20:05] <Jak2000> yes
[20:06] <Jak2000> no proble,
[20:06] <user33> thanks jak
[20:06] <ikonia> you can't write to /var/www/html as a non-root user
[20:06] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: I don't think Indigo is bleeding edge. It is the stable release, it is just not in the repositories.
[20:06] <bobweaver> Jak2000: look at permissions for that folder
[20:06] <Jak2000> ok
[20:06] <Jak2000> wait
[20:06] <freedly> user33, what is the ram, and disc size?
[20:06] <user33> ok
[20:06] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  are you in the group that you are tring to write to ?
[20:06] <user33> 15gb + another 15gb flash card and 1gb of ram
[20:06] <user33> but i think it can handle 2gb
[20:06] <Jak2000> not
[20:06] <bobweaver> trying *
[20:07] <cfhowlett> user33: kubuntu or lubuntu should do for you...
[20:07] <cha0sbg> So guys i had 1 more question for which i didn't get a answer: I have 2 video cards and i'm currently using ( windows 7 with OPTIMUS technology ) and if i install ubuntu and the drivers which video card will be used as default the built in intel card or the nVidia one ?
[20:07] <Jak2000> is a blnk installation of UBUNTU Servr
[20:07] <cfhowlett> user33: XUBUNTU not kubunut.  sorry
[20:07] <Somelauw> I'll just update. My computer sure will not explode.
[20:07] <freedly> user33, should not be aproblem, I would use a lighter desktop though like lubuntu myself for fast performance.
[20:07] <Somelauw> And even then, it is worth the try.
[20:07] <bobweaver> !permissions >> Jak2000
[20:07] <Jak2000> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Wss6a9iG
[20:07] <x-act> I cant change an channels, xchat shows me no errorssss
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  after you found out, you are the expert
[20:08] <auronandace> Somelauw: you've been made aware of the risks, don't complain if things break badly
[20:08] <FOXNET> zykotick9, i have installed mesa on my system and was playing tuxkart game about 2 weeks back. I tried reinstalling mesa and also FGLRX but its not working is there any fix for this issue
[20:08] <Ankhwatcher> Hey can anyone help me with forcing an output resolution?
[20:08] <zykotick9> FOXNET: sorry, if it's ATI (aka AMD) i can't/won't help.
[20:08] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  sudo nano index.html
[20:08] <user33> cfhowlett: sounds like a good idea i will give them a google.
[20:08] <x-act> sryy my english isn very well
[20:08] <freedly> x-act, right click this ##ubuntu-de and hit join channel
[20:08] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  or vi
[20:08] <infernal> Can anyone tell me what binnary suffix is for  i7-2630QM ?
[20:08] <ikonia> it's  not ##ubuntu-dev
[20:08] <ikonia> it's #ubuntu-de
[20:09] <ikonia> note the 1 #
[20:09] <user33> freedly: sounds good i will check this lubuntu out a light desktop sounds just what i am looking for
[20:09] <freedly> x-act, sorry #ubuntu -de
[20:09] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  you might want to look at making a group and also permissions
[20:09] <bobweaver> !permissions | Jak2000
[20:09] <ikonia> !de | x-act
[20:09] <freedly> user33, cool enjoy. :)
[20:09] <user33> most of what i do is on the terminal anyway, but its nice to have a gui there as well. they both have there uses
[20:09] <ssta> freedly: that only works in some clients
[20:09] <freedly> ssta, he has xchat
[20:09] <RedWar> thomasj well, I have done more research, I could not remove any more due to codependency issues... so I researched more on downgrade.  Apparently if I downgrade to libgcc-4.6.0-9 , this might resolve this issue.. but when I use the yum downgrade.. it tells me only version 10 is available.. Can't downgrade libgcc.
[20:10] <dadrc> ikonia, aight. what do you need?
[20:10] <Jak2000> bobweaver: done!
[20:10] <ikonia> dadrc: ahh, thanks could you help x-act
[20:10] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  cool now go to browser and type in the ipaddress
[20:10] <freedly> ssta, but thanks for your concerns :)
[20:10] <RedWar> I am going by this forum, which seems to be the only one in googledom that is addressing wine failed install on F16
[20:10] <its_falling> Hi, I'm an Ubuntu newbie - could you let me know why 32 bit ubuntu is listed as recommended, but 64 bit ubuntu is not?
[20:10] <Jak2000> bobweaver yes
[20:11] <RedWar> http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1499901
[20:11] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  Did you rename the file to index.php    ?
[20:11] <RedWar> oops
[20:11] <RedWar> wrong place
[20:11] <RedWar> lol
[20:11] <RedWar> nm
[20:11] <FloodBot1> RedWar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> its_falling  because 32 runs on any hardware, 64 only on 64 capable hardware
[20:11] <auronandace> its_falling: because the 32bit one works on both
[20:11] <pangolin> its_falling: 32bit will work on 64bit machine but not the other way around.
[20:11] <MrMist1> ehm... help. I've got problems with GRUB on a two-disk system. Win 7 on /dev/sdb (ssd) and Ubuntu on /dev/sda. Installed fresh system, but I chose /dev/sda for GRUB. My system still boot straight into Win7
[20:11] <cfhowlett> !64bit>cfhwolett
[20:11] <FOXNET> Is there any ATI/AMD card owners, who knows how to fix opengl issue: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig (cmd glxinfo output : http://pastebin.com/A9jyREYU)
[20:11] <its_falling> So, if I have a 64 bit system, I can just download the 64-bit version safely right?
[20:11] <cfhowlett> !64bit>cfhowlett
[20:11] <Somelauw> Then, I'm badass
[20:11] <freedly> cfhowlett,  That is the least of the problem eh
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> its_falling  yes
[20:12] <its_falling> Great, thanks guys :)
[20:12] <auronandace> its_falling: yes, works great here
[20:12] <cfhowlett> !64bit|its_falling
[20:12] <bobweaver> MrMist1:  you are going to need to boot a live cd and re-install grub
[20:12] <dadrc> ikonia, sure thing. What's up?
[20:12] <havermyer> Does anybody know why ubiquity would not show any of my partitions?  done a lot of googling on this and coming up empty...
[20:12] <ikonia> dadrc: he's struggling to grasp how to use xchat to join #ubuntu-de
[20:12] <MrMist1> bobweaver: I'm on a liveCD right now
[20:12] <ikonia> dadrc: a little bit of native German may help
[20:12] <dadrc> ikonia, yeah, got that. but who? :)
[20:12] <ikonia> dadrc: x-act is the user
[20:13] <MrMist1> bobweaver: How do I reinstall GRUB, and which commands do I run? I've been trying to google it, but can't find out..
[20:13] <freedly> !pm > cfhowlett
[20:13] <dadrc> ikonia, oh. my bad. sure.
[20:13] <bobweaver> MrMist1:  please read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164
[20:13] <ikonia> dadrc: thanks
[20:13] <bobweaver> MrMist1:  Post #2
[20:13] <its_falling> Another question: does wubi have any disadvantages?
[20:13] <dadrc> x-act, ok if I query you?
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> its_falling  yes: its existence
[20:13] <its_falling> hahahaha
[20:13] <its_falling> mind explaining?
[20:13] <auronandace> its_falling: its meant to be more of a preview
[20:13] <cfhowlett> its_falling: wubi is not good for long-term use per the developer
[20:13] <its_falling> ahh
[20:13] <ssta> its_falling: it's slower than a native install
[20:14] <its_falling> I see, I see.
[20:14] <cadz> hi all, i'm trying to edit sambas smb.conf, and all im getting is "no mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[20:14] <its_falling> Alright, I'm going to suck it up and get an ubuntu install running.
[20:14] <MrMist1> bobweaver: I'm using a two-disk system, that's two MBR's
[20:14] <Saiki> lol if it isn't one thing it's another.. not my usb drive won't mount..
[20:14] <ikonia> MrMist1: shouldn't be
[20:15] <its_falling> I FINALLY HAVE A NEED FOR IT! (I struggled with trying to install gstreamer + gst-python, and getting things like gst-inspect etc. to work (on Windows), and I finally realized, god - I have a reason to use linux_
[20:15] <MrMist1> ikonia: what?
[20:15] <Saiki> and as I say that it mounts.. *shrugs*
[20:15] <ikonia> MrMist1: 2 disks doesn't = 2 mbrs
[20:15] <cadz> hi all, i'm trying to edit sambas smb.conf, and all im getting is "no mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[20:16] <MrMist1> ikonia: Hmm.. ok. But my Ubuntu is on sdb, and my win7 is on sda
[20:16] <ssta> MonkeyDust: wubi isn't THAT bad for an evil hack that's designed to help the clueless...For what it is, it's quite well executed
[20:16] <havermyer> cadz: i'd try going to a terminal and running sudo nano -w smb.conf in the directory that it resides in
[20:17] <Jak2000> bobweaver: accept a private message
[20:17] <Jak2000> pls
[20:17] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  sure
[20:17] <cadz> how do i get out havermyer
[20:17] <Guest66085> hi
[20:17] <dodooo> Hi, I'm a beginner, I have Ubuntu and I'd like to know how to install the drivers for my Ati Radeon 5700 Series (if it's that that explains the awful sound I have instead of my music), can someone help me please ?
[20:17] <havermyer> Does anybody know why ubiquity would not show any of my partitions?  done a lot of googling on this and coming up empty...
[20:17] <havermyer> cadz: out of what?
[20:18] <its_falling> ssta: "the clueless?"
[20:18] <cadz> i didnt do it in the directory nvm
[20:18] <Ankhwatcher> havermyer: smb.conf probably
[20:18] <auronandace> havermyer: do you have gparted open at the same time?
[20:18] <its_falling> ssta: How did you end up becoming not-clueless?
[20:18] <ssta> its_falling: Poor choice of words perhaps...
[20:18] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: if you're using nano it's ctrl+x
[20:18] <havermyer> cadz: lol ctrl-x, sry
[20:19] <havermyer> auronandace: doesn't seem to make a difference if i have gparted open at the same time
[20:19] <havermyer> auronandace: so... yes and no
[20:19] <ssta> its_falling: originally?  I bought a bootload of 486s cheap and built systems from sourcce on them
[20:19] <its_falling> ssta: Nah, I'm not attacking you. It's just that when I'm talking to linux users, I often hear similar things beind said, and I wonder what part of life I'm missing out on, apart from romantic relationships.
[20:19] <its_falling> ssta: Like, I want to be part of this secret, non-clueless universe.
[20:20] <boba88> ikonia: i now burned the 11.10 64 bit on a dvd instead of a cd and it booted... but now i get the following problem "ncing: attempted to kill init", giving me some call trace ...
[20:20] <auronandace> havermyer: if gparted sees it then ubiquity should too
[20:20] <ssta> its_falling: haha...I've spent the last 15 years learning Linux...I spent the 10 years before that learning other systems.  Perhaps if I said "the inexperienced" instead it might sound better?
[20:20] <dadrc> ikonia, doesn't answer me, but I left him a detailed explanation (on joining a channel -.-) in a query.
[20:20] <MrMist1> bobweaver: OK... so I'm still baffled here... afraid I'll delete something on /dev/sdb (win7) if I do grub-install /dev/sdb.
[20:20] <ikonia> dadrc: thanks, appreciated
[20:20] <boba88> ikonia: it says kernel panic, not syncing
[20:20] <havermyer> auronandace: my partitions do shwo up in gparted, but not ubiquity :/
[20:20] <ikonia> boba88: that's not good,
[20:21] <its_falling> ssta: Ohhh. hahaha, alright, alright. I see what you mean.
[20:21] <ssta> its_falling: the ONLY way to be "not-clueless" is to spend years working at it...anyone who claims otherwise is lying to you (usually to try to sell you something)
[20:21] <boba88> ikonia: what about the kernel options that i can set prior to installation using the live cd.. i selected nomodest
[20:21] <auronandace> havermyer: which ubuntu are you installing from?
[20:21] <ikonia> boba88: that's just a visual thing and should not create that problem
[20:22] <Ankhwatcher> So, can anyone help me with setting the resolution on this computer? I installed a KVM and now the linux box cannot tell what resolution the monitor is. I'm using nvidia drivers.
[20:22] <havermyer> auronandace: 11.10 64-bit livecd - i get the same problem under wubi... though i'm not sure that i tried gparted under wubi
[20:22] <boba88> ikonia: any suggestions on what could be the problem :)
[20:22] <ikonia> boba88: not without a reasonable level of research
[20:22] <auronandace> !bug | havermyer
[20:22] <ikonia> boba88: have you tried the alternative install CD image ?
[20:22] <DM> anyone good with xubuntu?
[20:22] <boba88> ikonia: what do you mean the alternative
[20:22] <boba88> ikonia: what do you mean the alternative?
[20:23] <DM> I'm haveing an issue downloading xubuntu using the live image....
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> DM, what is your question?
[20:23] <ikonia> boba88: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[20:23] <ikonia> boba88: the alternative install CD has a different install method
[20:23] <DM> i'm trying to download xubuntu 10.04 for ppc on my g3 mac, but it isn't recognizing the hard drive...
[20:24] <DM> i'm new to linux
[20:24] <auronandace> !ppc | DM
[20:24] <boba88> ikonia: how different is the alternate, i am tryng the desktop one
[20:24] <k1l> x-act: lass deinen irc client nicht als root laufen, dann kommst du auch in den deutschen #ubuntu-de channel
[20:25] <ikonia> boba88: it's the same install (exactly the same as the desktop) it just uses a different install method
[20:26] <boba88> ikonia: ok will try that one too
[20:26] <cadz> how do i get into a directory lol
[20:26] <ixnos> hello
[20:26] <auronandace> cadz: cd /whereyouwanttogo
[20:26] <cadz> tA
[20:27] <ixnos> I'm learning how to use this irssi.
[20:27] <ixnos> New to IRC.
[20:28] <jen__> how the heck can I put music on my itouch 4G from ubuntu? My virtualbox will NOT recognize my ipod either. I need a legit way to do it
[20:28] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: in linux ~ will stand in for your home directory, ie ~/docs is the same place as /home/cadz/docs
[20:28] <cadz> ok nice
[20:29] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: also directory and file names can be autocompleted by pressing Tab after you have started typing them
[20:30] <auronandace> !cookie | Ankhwatcher
[20:30] <cadz> gahd i give up with samba
[20:30] <Ankhwatcher> uh thanks
[20:30] <cadz> all i wanted to do was to share my windows folder
[20:30] <cadz> and it wont fkn let me
[20:30] <fr0stbyte> can anyone spot my permission issue? can't touch a file even though im in the group owner of folder and it's 775. tia http://o7.no/xPTHCh
[20:31] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: so wait, what happened when you edited samba.conf?
[20:31] <boba88> ikonia: but the alternate is a torrent
[20:31] <boba88> ikonia: i might have trouble when downloading torrent as far as i know
[20:31] <rmc3> frostbite, it's because /var/www is owned by root root
[20:32] <ikonia> boba88: you don't need to use a torrent
[20:32] <rmc3> er
[20:32] <rmc3> neverming
[20:32] <del_> hello everyone.
[20:32] <rmc3> that's /var
[20:32] <rmc3> don't listen to me
[20:32] <FloodBot1> rmc3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: There is a much easier way to setup Samba shares than messing with the conf file
[20:32]  * rmc3 hides in shame.
[20:32] <ssta> fr0stbyte: what is: ls -ld /var/www ?
[20:32] <fr0stbyte> ssta: drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2012-02-12 15:25 /var/www
[20:32] <del_> i installed ubuntu yesterday, so i keep coming across errors... and am wondering how to fix the latest one:  (gksu:31518): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[20:32] <del_> what does that mean?
[20:32] <boba88> ikonia: the link you gave me gives me just torrents
[20:33] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: as someone who's desktop is in 640x480 you'll have to excuse me for stickiing with the console.
[20:33] <ikonia> boba88: no it's not, READ the linkl
[20:33] <pragmaticenigma> I didn't know there was that constraint
[20:34] <fr0stbyte> ssta: so that suggests this issue is FUBAR?
[20:34] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: there isn't for cadz, jsut for me
[20:34] <fr0stbyte> i did set my /etc/profile and pam.so to umask 002
[20:34] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: I'm on here trying to get help with resolution settings
[20:34] <fr0stbyte> aka 775.. so that should be fine
[20:34] <del_> anyone? :-)
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> Ah, maybe I can help you Ankhwatcher
[20:34] <auronandace> fr0stbyte: we don't appreciate such acronyms as fubar here
[20:34] <ssta> fr0stbyte: no, you need to enable the SGID bit on the directory
[20:34] <ixnos> g
[20:35] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: well that would be much appreciated
[20:35] <ssta> fr0stbyte: sudo chmod g+s /var/www
[20:35] <zykotick9> fr0stbyte: have you looked out/back in since adding yourself to the www-data group?
[20:35] <ixnos> is there a way to stop seeing people who enver and leave?
[20:35] <fr0stbyte> auronandace: sorry.
[20:35] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: Can you fill me in one what your specs are and what you have tried so far?
[20:35] <zykotick9> fr0stbyte: s/looked/logged/
[20:35] <boba88> ikonia: now downloading ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[20:35] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: I'm using an nvidia card with nvidia drivers, everything was fine until I installed a kvm
[20:35] <auronandace> fr0stbyte: no worries
[20:35] <fr0stbyte> ssta: didnt work, gonna try logging out like zykotick9 suggests
[20:35] <boba88> ikonia: will try with that and if that does not work gonna install 10.04 64 bit and then upgrade if necessary
[20:35] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: do you have the XEN kernel enabled?
[20:36] <fr0stbyte> that was it
[20:36] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: now the linux box cannot detect the monitor resolutions and will only allow 640x480
[20:36] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: I have no idea, when did that come about?
[20:36] <fr0stbyte> haha! wow thanks zykotick9 its the simple things
[20:37] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: oops... sorry... didn't realize KVM meant something else... Keyboard/Monitor/Mouse?
[20:37] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: yeah it's a two port Keyboard, Video, Mouse switcher
[20:37] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: Got it, thanks... Do you have a xorg.conf file created?
[20:38] <cadz> Ankhwatcher: a tutorial tells me to edit something not even in there
[20:38] <edwardthefma> i need some advice of dealing with some Ddos'ers
[20:38] <tyler> anyone familiar with macbuntu, that may be able to help me fix my panel bar? here's my problem: http://oi40.tinypic.com/ivwdxe.jpg
[20:38] <ikonia> edwardthefma: in what respect ?
[20:38] <edwardthefma> leagle action
[20:38] <ikonia> tyler: macbuntu is a terrible theme product that will potentially cause issues with your machine
[20:38] <ikonia> edwardthefma: not something #ubuntu helps with
[20:39] <ikonia> edwardthefma: ubuntu technical support only
[20:39] <tyler> ikonia: what would you suggest?
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> cadz, ocassionally things are omitted from the default file, you should add it if it isn't there
[20:39] <ikonia> tyler: not using it,
[20:39] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: yeah sometimes the files move around, old tutorials can say the wrong thing
[20:39] <mongy> tyler: I think mac4lin is a little better
[20:39] <cadz> man why should every new person go through this
[20:40] <pushpop> When I leave my computer idle for a period of time my gnome-shell uses 90-100% cpu.  I'm running 3.2.1 with a 9800gtx with the most current nvidia-current drivers.  When I run "r" everything returns to normal.  Any idea's?
[20:40] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: as pragmaticenigma pointed out to me you can set this up in the settings, have you tried that?
[20:40] <havermyer> for anyone who was following my problems earlier, I finally found the answer - I had to sudo dmraid -r -E /dev/sda to remove old raid metadata that was on the disk
[20:40] <edwardthefma> well i cam hear knowing that thare are victems and thos who do the  crime
[20:40] <ikonia> tyler: mac4lin is also a terrible setup of software/themes
[20:40] <cadz> na its k
[20:40] <tyler> ikonia: is just a hatin'
[20:40] <ikonia> edwardthefma: not something this channel deals with
[20:40] <cadz> ill try it another day lol
[20:40] <cfhowlett> !ot>edwardthefma
[20:40] <cadz> thanks for your help Ankhwatcher
[20:40] <ikonia> tyler: no, I'm not, I'm trying to protect you from poor quality software that is known to cause issues with your install
[20:41] <ikonia> tyler: you are free to ignore my advice/warnings and use it
[20:41] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: no problem
[20:41] <gdea73> For my web server, I still have a question about file permissions...
[20:41] <tyler> well, i like the feel and look of mac.. any other alternatives?
[20:41] <ikonia> tyler: buy a mac
[20:41] <tyler> ikonia: lmfao.
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[20:41] <ikonia> tyler: I'm not laughing, you like how a mac looks and works, use a mac
[20:41] <gdea73> I've got them set to 774 (owner is g73net:www-data), but I want new files to be automatically set to 774 when created or copied into /var/www
[20:42] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: yes, I just went to /etc and found it
[20:42] <gdea73> is there any relatively easy way to accomplish this?
[20:42] <mongy> tyler: if you grab the mac4lin file and extract it, ignore the install script, just look in the folder and you will see the theme files and icon theme file, pretty much all you need.  It wont install a dock or any of that but, yo ucan do that yourself.
[20:42] <MacGyverNL> I'm on an ubuntu machine which I have no administrative privileges on, and want to change my default editor. update-alternatives is sysadmin only, afaik - so how do I change it, aside from simply setting EDITOR in my bashrc?
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: there might be a spot between your magnifying class and the drop box icon to let you drag the block over... you might be able to right click there and unlock it so you can move it
[20:42] <cfhowlett> tyler: the backgrounds are readily available, the panel appearances are likely already in system or available and the AWN provides most of the panel effects.  DIY
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: you could also see if trying to move the clock to the right forces the icons to line up as you prefer
[20:42] <acicula> MacGyverNL: whats wrong with setting the EDITOR variable?
[20:43] <ubuntuaddicted> how about using all 3? I love it!
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: K... It might be worth renaming it to something like xorf.conf__bak and reboot... let the system try and rebuild it
[20:43] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: i tried that, didn't seem to work.
[20:43] <MacGyverNL> acicula: Considering the existence of update-alternatives I figured there might be a "cleaner" way.
[20:43] <dlentz> the system won't automatically generate xorg.conf
[20:44] <ubuntuaddicted> OS X, Windows, and Debian based Linux.
[20:44] <acicula> MacGyverNL: nope, update-alternatives is system wide
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: unfortunatly custom spins of ubuntu like that aren't supported here... at the place you downloaded, there should be some sort of support forum that your question might be better suited for
[20:44] <ubuntuaddicted> who's buying UbuntuTV when it comes out?
[20:44] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: you're tha man! thanks dude. your first suggestion worked. (:
[20:44] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: this is a support channel - not ubuntu TV polling channel
[20:44] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: okay, I'll give that a try. Back on in a bit.
[20:44] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: what are you talking about ?
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> cool tyler, glad to hear it
[20:44] <ubuntuaddicted> buwahhahahaa, oops. thought I was in Ubuntu-offtopic section. see ya
[20:45] <gdea73> anyway... so I have permissions 774 (drwxrwxr--) set recursively on /var/www, and all the files and directories inside. I just want NEW files to be automatically set to 774 when copied there. Ideas, please?
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: One thing I have learned when trying to move stuff around is sometimes the "handle" to activate the container is hidden right next to the object you want to move
[20:45] <cha0sbg> @everyone: Bumblebee or Ironhide, which is better ?
[20:45] <Galvatron> tyler: I strongly recommend avoiding unofficial "remixes" of Ubuntu
[20:45] <oCean> cha0sbg: no polls here
[20:45] <cha0sbg> oCean: I just wanna know which to install :)
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: About the only thing I have seen that works, is to set a script to scan the folder and do the permissions setting... otherwise you will have to manually set the permissions each time you add a file
[20:46] <oCean> cha0sbg: try them both, decide for yourself
[20:46] <cfhowlett> cha0sbg: costs zero to add both and see for yourself...
[20:46] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: alright, that makes sense... are there any pre-written scripts for use for that purpose?
[20:46] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: yeah, thanks for the info. that seems to be what was wrong.
[20:46] <Galvatron> tyler: In general, they are a source of strange issues, not occuring in regular version. if you want to customize the system, do it on your own, so you will have a full control over the process.
[20:46] <recon69_lap> conference? on a sunday!!!!
[20:46] <MacGyverNL> acicula: Tx, I'll just stick with EDITOR then.
[20:46] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: I don't know of any, because it's usually considered a bad idea since the script could edit the wrong files unintentionally
[20:47] <cha0sbg> Isn't this for support and share of experience ?
[20:47] <ikonia> cha0sbg: sure, ubuntu support
[20:48] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: one more issue, do you know how i can get the sound control button back on the panel?
[20:48] <zacarias> Hi. How can I delete the contents of a memory card? I tried deleting, running chown and rm -rf commands, and it keeps saying that I have no permissions :-(
[20:48] <cha0sbg> yea ... but since there wont be support for Optimus untill 12.04 cant i ask for suggestions, and people who already stuggled with the issue ?
[20:48] <ikonia> cha0sbg: what are you talking about
[20:48] <mongy> zacarias: is it write protected?
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: I saw an article a while back... let me see if I can find it for oyu
[20:49] <cha0sbg> ikonia: Just nevermind ...
[20:49] <ikonia> no problem
[20:49] <pragmaticenigma> cha0sbg: there is a support channel for future releases of ubuntu
[20:50] <recon_lap> pragmaticenigma: add the indicator applet to your toolbar
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> tahnk recon_lap ... tyler: right click on the panel, click add, choose indicator applet
[20:51] <pangolin> cha0sbg: #ubuntu+1 for support and discussion of 12.04 and maybe take a look at http://www.ruyk.com/tech/?p=68
[20:51] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: ah okay, you're probably right - eventually I'd like some files to have permissions 775, in the case of PHP scripts which must be run by the user. Ah well, thanks for giving a useful answer... the stuff I found on various forums was merely confusing :P
[20:51] <Karmaon> Is anybody else annoyed by the fact that chromium asks me to sign in with a google account?
[20:52] <ikonia> Karmaon: not an ubuntu issue
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> Karmaon: You don't HAVE to login, it's just helpful if you want to
[20:53] <recon_lap> corporations being evil is all to common and everyones problem ;-)
[20:53] <Karmaon> pragmaticenigma: I thought google only had integrated chrome with their services, not chrimoum
[20:53] <Karmaon> heh, time to switch to firefox
[20:54] <zacarias> mongy: no, I checked that, it's unlocked
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> Karmaon: Chromium is the development version of Chrome... so somethings are in both
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> Karmaon: But you are not required to login, it's optional and you should be able to just use Chromium
[20:55] <Galvatron> cha0sbg: Using alpha releases makes no sense, unless you are planning to actively participate in the development.
[20:57] <theadmin> Karmaon: Both Chromium and Google Chrome are Google products, except Google Chrome includes closed-source plugins of some sorts (Flash, PDF reader, etc)
[20:57] <theadmin> Karmaon: You don't have to sign in to Chromium if you don't want to... Though you won't have the Sync
[20:58] <Karmaon> theadmin: Yeah, I understand.
[20:59] <boba88> ikonia: the alternate works better
[21:00] <boba88> ikonia: now i am in the installation process and the installation asks me to choose between "etho:Atheros Communcations L2 fast ethernet" and "eth1: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Rtl-....."
[21:00] <boba88> ikonia: what would you suggest to choose?
[21:01] <ikonia> well, they are different network cards
[21:01] <LjL> boba88: those are network cards. you apparently have two of them. you need to be the one deciding which one to use :P
[21:01] <ikonia> boba88: one is your wireless, one is your wired,
[21:01] <ikonia> boba88: pick which one you want to use
[21:01] <runa> hi everybody i have a laptop and battery is very important to me. I have 4 gb ram. I wanted to know how can i reduce the cpu usage
[21:02] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: thanks, it worked. although, now there is a mail icon within the applet.. anyway to remove just the mail icon rather than the whole applet?
[21:02] <boba88> ikonia: eth0 is the lan? and the other one wlan
[21:02] <ikonia> boba88: correct
[21:02] <boba88> ikonia: thanks
[21:02] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: Nope, can't have one without the other
[21:02] <Galvatron> theadmin: To my knowledge, Chromium is an independent, open-source project, being rebranded by Google, after adding their proprietary stuff.
[21:03] <nina> hi, is it normal that linux has some problems with web connection
[21:03] <nina> wireless connection
[21:03] <nina> ?
[21:03] <dlentz> nina, no
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Galvatron  i havent followed, but Chrome is based on Chromium
[21:03] <theadmin> Galvatron: Might be the case too
[21:03] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: shouldn't the network icon be within the indicator applet as well?
[21:04] <dlentz> nina, do you know what wireless chip you have?
[21:04] <theadmin> Galvatron: However, Chromium definetly has Google bits in it (The Sync requires a Google account, for instance)
[21:04] <nina> no, how can i check it?
[21:04] <dlentz> lspci
[21:05] <nina> i have linux for about year
[21:05] <bobweaver> nina:  sudo lshw -c networking
[21:06] <Galvatron> nina: And use pastebin, to not fllod the channel
[21:06] <trism> tyler: the mail icon is indicator-messages, uninstall that and it will be gone
[21:07] <nina> sorry
[21:07] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: I think it's seperate because network monitor isn't needed if the computer is hardwired desktop
[21:07] <nina> Galvatron u have to be easier, I'm a girl :-)
[21:07] <nina> and english is not my native
[21:08] <Galvatron> Mine neither
[21:08] <nina> actullay I'm confiused why this chat is working
[21:08] <Galvatron> http://pastebin.com/
[21:08] <nina> web sides doesn't
[21:08] <ssta> nina: dns issue maybe?
[21:09] <Galvatron> Have you chcecked under non-Linux system?
[21:09] <ikonia> nina: your card is clearly working
[21:09] <nina> yes i have 3 computers at home, only linux doesn't work
[21:09] <ikonia> nina: you are using ubuntu xchat on a 32bit system with a PAE kernel
[21:09] <ikonia> nina: this machine is connected to the net just fine
[21:12] <CXIV> Are LTS point releases only fixing bugs or adding also software updates?
[21:12] <ikonia> CXIV: depends.
[21:12] <cfhowlett> !lts|cxiv
[21:12] <ikonia> cfhowlett: how is that helpful ?
[21:13] <CXIV> ikonia Is it possible to disable software updates?
[21:13] <pragmaticenigma> CXIV: If you want software updates, you will need to enable backports
[21:13] <ikonia> CXIV: sure, but why would you want to do that ?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> just don't update, i'd say
[21:14] <CXIV> ikonia Because im ex-debian user? :D
[21:14] <theadmin> CXIV: Most of the time the software in x.x.x releases is *somewhat* higher than in x.x, but not anything you can't get via apt updates
[21:14] <ssta> because updating production servers isn't something to do automatically?
[21:14] <ikonia> CXIV: again - why would you wnat to not update ?
[21:14] <theadmin> ssta: Ubuntu doesn't have automatic updates...
[21:14] <CXIV> ikonia I want only bugfixes.
[21:14] <meetri> anyone play with cinnamon desktop ?
[21:14] <theadmin> CXIV: That's not possible... bugfixes ARE updates.
[21:15] <theadmin> meetri: I have. It's cute, but a bit slow.
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> disable update manager and don't update manually
[21:15] <ssta> theadmin: umm, yes it does...it's a setting in update mangler
[21:15] <ikonia> CXIV: you can manually select what updates to apply,
[21:15] <CXIV> OK
[21:15] <CXIV> Thanks :)
[21:15] <ikonia> CXIV: you'll find that software isn't updated at a version level though, so I think your concerns are false
[21:15] <theadmin> ssta: Oh... I don't remember when I last used update manager xD
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: I don't always want updates on my MythTV machine because sometimes certain supporting applications break things within MythTV causing me to lose the ability to watch certain video files and stuff
[21:16] <kremlon> http://ideone.com/B52ZZ
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: MythTV machine runs Mythbuntu 10.04 for that reason
[21:16] <Blue11> pragmaticenigma: what is mythtv?
[21:16] <CXIV> Anyway you recommend updating if I don't have problems with a system?
[21:16] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: I'd suspect you have external repos enabled
[21:16] <ikonia> CXIV: yes
[21:17] <ssta> CXIV: dependson other things..
[21:17] <kremlon> http://ideone.com/B52ZZ
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: At this point the only software updates that come for 10.04 are security patches
[21:17] <ikonia> kremlon: repeating that doesn't change anything
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> !mythtv
[21:17] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: so you are suggesting that security updates are breaking mythTV compatability /
[21:17] <kremlon> mystical is'nt it :o <-3 :o
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: NO, i'm saying that sometimes applicaiton updates (unrealted to security) like upgrading firefox to 10 versus the security patch update for 3.x
[21:18] <meetri> maybe this is general question. I installed cinnamon ( i kinda like it ) and now when I start it, no desktop appears. I purged it, re-installed it. and still no desktop. Turns out my gnome desktop was also borked, but I was able to just clear the .gnome settings and i was back in business. what can i do for this cinnamon desktop i was using? and ideas? thanks
[21:18] <ece_man> do you guys think that Ubuntu will live long enough still given that Linux Mint is about to take its top spot?
[21:18] <ssta> depends what the system is for, and what the impact of downtime might be
[21:18] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: firefox updates should not touch mythtv
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> ece_man: That isn't a topic for this chat room
[21:18] <ece_man> anyway linux mint is based from ubuntu
[21:18] <ece_man> oh sorry
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: It was an example
[21:19] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: I'll re-phrase, no software from the ubuntu repos should cause a conflict/break with other software from the ubuntu repos
[21:19] <CXIV> ece_man Linux Mint is Slow-Mo derviative of Ubuntu.
[21:19] <ece_man> yeah i agree still using ubuntu :)
[21:20] <ssta> CXIV: not sure that's a fair assessment...but it's not really on topic anyway
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: Typically your right, but I have had issues with codecs
[21:20] <mongy> ece_man: I see no point in derivatives like mine when ubuntu has other DE's
[21:20] <mongy> mine=mint
[21:20] <CXIV> ssta Sorry
[21:20] <ece_man> yup yup :)
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic |ece_man, CXIV,, ssta
[21:21] <pangolin> meetri: cinnamon as in Mint?
[21:21] <ece_man> I'm just wondering how come other people are saying that Linux Mint is better wherein it was also based from Ubuntu.
[21:21] <kremlon> hope they didnt inject my xchat
[21:21] <kremlon> :o
[21:21] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic |ece_man
[21:21] <boba88> ikonia: in the text based alternate installer i do not have the option to set the mount point of the swap partition
[21:21] <meetri> pangolin: well not really. i am running it on ubuntu
[21:21] <ikonia> ece_man: because based on is not the same as "the same" - it's personal opinion, people like different things
[21:22] <ikonia> boba88: there is no mount point for swap partitions
[21:22] <meetri> pangolin: but i must say i am also running gnome 3.2
[21:22] <chuck1310> Mint has a nice gnome3 customized desktop manager
[21:22] <boba88> ikonia: i made it logical 3 gig, and do not mount..,., but then the partitioner warned me that it wont be used at all
[21:22] <boba88> ikonia: is that ok
[21:22] <boba88> ?
[21:23] <ikonia> boba88: you don't have a mount point for sawp
[21:23] <ikonia> swap
[21:23] <meetri> chuck1310: is that the only thing mint offers ?
[21:23] <pragmaticenigma> !mint |chuck1310
[21:23] <LjL> boba88: the important thing is it's marked as type swap
[21:23] <spotterdox> hi
[21:23] <boba88> LjL: you mean Label : swap
[21:24] <chuck1310> meetri: it's a nice Linux distribution for casual user like Ubuntu but I prefer Ubuntu
[21:24] <spotterdox> im trying to install lrssi client in ubuntu but i need help
[21:24] <LjL> boba88: no, i don't think that's what i mean. it should be of *type* swap, the label is unimportant
[21:24] <boba88> LjL: this is the alternate installer and it is not that much friendly
[21:25] <LjL> boba88: well yeah i have no clue right now where in the alternate installer you decide the partition type. but somehow you'll have told it that it's going to be a swap partition?
[21:25] <pangolin> spotterdox: you mean irssi?
[21:25] <meetri> check1310: i like the direction it's going, i guess it's still a bit too buggy for everyday use.
[21:25] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic |chuck1310, meetri
[21:25] <boba88> LjL: there is mount point, mount options, label, reserved blocks, typical usage, bootable flag
[21:25] <spotterdox> pangolin: yes
[21:25] <boba88> LjL: these are the options
[21:25] <pangolin> spotterdox: what do you need help with exactly?
[21:25] <rmc3> !offtopic |pragmaticenigma
[21:25] <spotterdox> pangolin: kinda new to linux
[21:26] <pangolin> spotterdox: that is fine, we all start at the beginning :)
[21:26] <LjL> boba88: but that's after creating the partition, no? you should probably decide the type right when creating it.
[21:26] <spotterdox> pangolin: :)
[21:26] <LjL> rmc3: ?
[21:26] <pangolin> spotterdox: so what problem you having?
[21:26] <boba88> LjL: there was only option for logical and primary
[21:26] <spotterdox> pangolin: idk which file i need to download http://www.irssi.org/download
[21:26] <boba88> LjL: and i choose logical
[21:26] <kremlon> i know.
[21:27] <pangolin> spotterdox: none. open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install irssi
[21:27] <LjL> boba88: that's fine, but somewhere there must also be the (filesystem) type. if i knew where it is exactly i'd tell you, but i don't
[21:27] <ikonia> LjL: it's set when you create the partitions, you set the type when you set the file system to "swap"
[21:27] <pangolin> spotterdox: or you can alternatively use the Software Centre to install it using the GUI
[21:28] <LjL> ikonia: yeah that's what i said, but he said he only had "logical" and "primary" as options. i'm not familiar enough with the alternate installer to guide him exactly.
[21:28] <spotterdox> pangolin: i tried to do the terminal thing but it says "E: Unable to locate package irssi "
[21:28] <boba88> LjL: found it
[21:28] <boba88> :)
[21:28] <boba88> LjL: and the bootable flag is off?
[21:28] <pangolin> spotterdox: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:28] <LjL> boba88: yes
[21:28] <spotterdox> pangolin: 11.10
[21:29] <pangolin> spotterdox: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:29] <spotterdox> pangolin: and its Lubuntu not ubuntu
[21:29] <pangolin> spotterdox: also if you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:29] <pangolin> spotterdox: right, that shouldn't make a difference, the underlying system is the same.
[21:30] <Guest18268> Hi all. Got a question not directly related to Ubuntu. Maybe somebody has a quick answer. What's the advantage of booting a tiny Linux into your RAM like Puppy, Tiny Core etc. do?
[21:30] <theadmin> Guest18268: Booting into RAM over running from livecd? Well... you don't have to keep the CD inside, so you can use the CD drive for something else
[21:30] <cfhowlett> !linux>guest18268
[21:30] <spotterdox> pangolin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839684/
[21:31] <pangolin> Guest18268: ask a puppy channel, not really on topic for this channel
[21:31] <DrCode> hi all
[21:31] <DrCode> how can I use ntp or other software with http proxy?
[21:31] <ikonia> cfhowlett: can you please stop with the random factoids, they are pointless to the questions people are asking
[21:31] <ikonia> DrCode: not all software is proxy compatible
[21:31] <pangolin> spotterdox: lsb_release -a , what does that return?
[21:31] <DrCode> can I open ntpd on windows 7 and sync ntp clients in ubuntu?
[21:31] <ikonia> DrCode: soe will require environment variables, such as http_proxy setting or proxy setting
[21:32] <theadmin> DrCode: If you find an NTP daemon for Windows, sure.
[21:32] <ikonia> DrCode: you can make windows into a time server to sync clients, sure
[21:32] <spotterdox> pangolin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839688/
[21:33] <pangolin> spotterdox: don't forget the / at the start of the path
[21:34] <spotterdox> pangolin: my bad, http://paste.ubuntu.com/839693/
[21:35] <pangolin> spotterdox: your sources.list looks fine. I am not sure why it says irssi is not available
[21:36] <spotterdox> pangolin: hmmm
[21:36] <pangolin> spotterdox: try #lubuntu and ask them
[21:37] <spotterdox> pangolin: its kinda "dead" channel
[21:37] <Zau> Hello, how can I upgrade Wubi to latest release, please (I mean, to releases following 11.10)...
[21:37] <DrCode> ok
[21:37] <DrCode> found it
[21:37] <DrCode> thanx
[21:38] <theadmin> Zau: Precise is not released yet. 11.10 is the latest.
[21:38] <cfhowlett> Zau: next release will be 12.04 in April.
[21:38] <Andrew131> Im still having trouble with my external drive.  I get a message in the logs saying that the high speed usb device is reset then any process that interacts with the drive (reading writing file) freezes
[21:39] <boba88> ikonia: what should i enter for the proxy information, in case i want to access the outside world as suggested by the installer... i guess i need this?
[21:39] <Andrew131> The best I can tell it happens when writing a large file to the drive
[21:39] <ikonia> boba88: depends on your network,
[21:39] <boba88> ikonia: what do you mean it depends, lan wlan or something else
[21:40] <ikonia> boba88: depends on how your network is set up
[21:40] <Zau> Thanks guys, the reason I wish to get latest release of Wubi is for installing the newest Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix: Wubi 11.10 cannot handle it. Any suggestions?
[21:40] <mvrick95> looking forward to ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin!
[21:40] <cfhowlett> Zau: dual boot?
[21:41] <cfhowlett> Zau: wubit is not the best option for long-term use says the developer
[21:41] <Somelauw> OMG, I installed eclipse manually and everyhting is broken.
[21:41] <boba88> ikonia: i never needed to know this information with the other installer for ubuntu (not the alternate one...) and thats why i am confused now if i actually need this
[21:42] <cfhowlett> Zau: also, virtualizatoin e.g. virtualbox, vmware...
 you're right: it's not for me. it's for newbies...
[21:42] <ikonia> boba88: then don't put it in
[21:42] <auronandace> Somelauw: you were warned
[21:42] <Andrew131> Any ideas?
[21:42] <cfhowlett> Zau: ah.  fwiw: I run 10.04 but business spin 11.10 installed flawlessly in my virtualbox
[21:43] <Andrew131> Im seriously considering going out and buying a pci express usb 3.0 card just to keep ruling things out
[21:43] <boba88> ikonia: thanks
 thanks
[21:43] <ray_> anyone seen linux have an issue with all capital leter files when listing images in ebay over firefox browser?
[21:44] <ikonia> ray_: that's not an "issue"
[21:44] <Oer> Zau, Canonical supports newest Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix á $105 /desktop. http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop
[21:44] <ray_> changing the extention to lower case and they apear. quite agravating. anyone know a quick solution to this
[21:45]  * Oer thinks this community has no obligation to commercial desktops
 thanks
[21:45] <ikonia> ray_: sed
[21:45] <ray_> ikonia, your useless
[21:45] <ikonia> ray_: sorry, I'm giving you perfectly acceptable solutions,
[21:46] <ray_> ikonia, no your giving solution thats usefull to programmers.
[21:46] <Zau> Zau test
[21:46] <guntbert> Zau: use #test for testing please
[21:47] <Zau> guntbert, apologies
[21:47] <Zau> thanks guys. have a nice time :)
[21:47] <cfhowlett> Zau: should have mentioned, virtualbox also installed ubuntustudio 12.04 Alpha no problems...
[21:47] <jrib> ray_: not really sure what your issue is but consider the possibility it is server-side
[21:48] <Zau> cfhowlett, ok, thanks
[21:48] <ray_> jrib. possibly. but this is hard to tell
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> ray_: I would first try disabling any extension you have installed on Firefox
[21:49] <Andrew131> Has anyone else had this weird behavior with usb external drive?  It gets "reset" then all the processes using it are blocked?
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> ray_: Add ons rather (sorry thinking chrome)...
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: What type of drive is it?
[21:49] <Andrew131> Western Digital Essential 2TB drive
[21:50] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Do you notice the drive spinning up and down when you try to access the drive with that program?
[21:50] <Andrew131> The best I can tell it happens when a large file is written to it
[21:50] <Zillow> question: how can I pipe the output of find into nano? example of what I think might work but does not "find -name cupsd.conf | nano"
[21:51] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: I was thinking it could be something with poor power management which is causing Ubuntu to unmount the drive which would cause the program lock issue
[21:51] <theadmin> Zillow: Not really possible. This will work: find -name cupsd.conf > file.out && nano file.out
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> Zillow: there isn't an easy way to do that... it's best to cut and paste the directory from your result to your command to start nano
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> Zillow: If your in command line only mode... you might need something like xargs to pass the result from find to nano
[21:52] <Andrew131> Well the drive doesn't get unmounted
[21:52] <Andrew131> Its gets reset
[21:52] <Andrew131> One sec Ill grab the notice
[21:53] <Zillow> using xargs could do it possibly?
[21:53] <Andrew131> reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd
[21:53] <Somelauw> Okay, just kidding. It is not really broken. It is just that I didn't uninstall the old version properly.
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: It might not be the drive, but the USB controller...
[21:53] <Kamiccolo> uPnP V.S. manual port mapping. Logically uPnP should be slower. Is that true?
[21:53] <Andrew131> once that notice hits any process interacting with the drive (issuing ls, reading file, running fdisk, etc…) gets blocked
[21:54] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: I was thinking the same thing
[21:54] <Somelauw> The new version works. I recommend upgrading as well.
[21:54] <livia84> ciao a tutti
[21:54] <Andrew131> Im thinking of getting a PCI Express controller to rule that out
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Are you using any USB hubs to connect the drives? Otherwise I would think you might want to get the extra controller
[21:55] <Somelauw> The only disadvantage is that the new version is slightly more manual work.
[21:55] <livia84> c'è un italiano?
[21:55] <ildemone> io
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> !italian
[21:55] <livia84> grazie
[21:55] <Somelauw> ubottu: what language do you speak?
[21:57] <Somelauw> !1337
[21:57] <cfhowlett> ? ! LOL
[21:57] <fruitbag> Hey all.
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> Somelauw: You can PM ubottu to try the different commands
[21:58] <cfhowlett> fruitbag: greetings.  state the problem, plz
[21:58] <fruitbag> I've installed Quake 2, but even though the executable is located at /usr/local/games/quake2, I am prompted that such a file does not exist.
[21:58] <ikonia> fruitbag: how are you running it ?
[21:58] <fruitbag> Even double-clicking the executable gives the same message.
[21:58] <Zillow> okay I figured it out I had it backwards, should actually be "nano `find / -iname httpd.conf`"
[21:59] <fruitbag> ikonia, I've tried running both from the terminal and clicking it.
[21:59] <Zillow> or in my case nano `find / -iname cupsd.conf`
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Something that occured to me.. I know that my USB controller has issues with large drives attached for booting and sometimes after the computer is running... It would be a very good idea to try a seperate controller card
[22:00] <Zillow> I am going to use that string variation till death!
[22:02] <Loshki> Zillow: find has to search the whole filesystem each time you run it. Much more efficient to know where your files are and edit them directly e.g. nano /etc/cupsd.conf
[22:02] <fruitbag> Any thoughts, guys?
[22:03] <fruitbag> How is it that I am told the executable does not exist when it clearly does.
[22:03] <fruitbag> ?
[22:03] <Sedated> or just `locate cupsd.conf`
[22:03] <capcook> fruitbag: give us the command you use from terminal
[22:03] <Sherlock_> anyone use a command line twitter client other than Twidge?
[22:03] <fruitbag> capcook, ./quake2
[22:03] <Oer> fruitbag, i think Quake needs wine
[22:03] <Oer> !wine
[22:03] <capcook> that's it
[22:03] <fruitbag> Oer, it's not a Windows executable.
[22:03] <capcook> its wrong
[22:03] <Viman> maybe it's not executable?
[22:03] <Viman> you need to make it so
[22:04] <zykotick9> fruitbag: i bet your on amd64 right?
[22:04] <Viman> chmod +x quake2
[22:04] <fruitbag> I'll try that, Viman.
[22:04] <ltslover> fruitbag what gives which quake2 ?
[22:04] <capcook> try ./usr/.....executable name
[22:04] <ltslover> "which quake2"
[22:04] <DeviceZer0> when I fullscreen vlc the video becomes black or the last frame displayed gets stuck. any ideas?
[22:04] <fruitbag> 'bash: ./quake2: No such file or directory.'
[22:04] <Viman> oh yeah, cd into the directory in which quake2 is located
[22:05] <Viman> then enter chmod
[22:05] <fruitbag> I already have, Viman.
[22:05] <Viman> uhh..
[22:05] <capcook> thats because quake2 os not in your path
[22:05] <mocommon> did I break this?
[22:05] <fruitbag> 'root@xxx:/usr/local/games/quake2#;
[22:05] <fruitbag> chmod worked
[22:05] <Viman> ls -A
[22:05] <auronandace> fruitbag: why are you trying to run as root?
[22:05] <ltslover> fruit youre running quake 2 as root?
[22:05] <Sherlock_> anyone use a command line twitter client other than Twidge? ...
[22:06] <Viman> bad idea to make it executable as root.
[22:06] <fruitbag> How do I get out of root?
[22:06] <Viman> Ctrl+D
[22:06] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_: gwibber...
[22:06] <bastidrazor> fruitbag: how did you get in to root?
[22:06] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_: nevermind - not command line is it.
[22:06] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: gwibber is hardly command line
[22:06] <Zillow> Loshki: you are right, it's just nice to have when I don't know where things are
[22:06] <Sherlock_> no thanks
[22:07] <fruitbag> 'xxx@xxx:/usr/local/games/quake2$ ./quake2'
[22:07] <Zillow> Loshki, for instance where cupsd was located, which now that I saw it, I won't ever have to touch it again
[22:07] <fruitbag> 'bash: ./quake2: No such file or directory'
[22:07] <capcook> i think that's just because fruitbag doesnt have the path to quake 2 executable in his path variable
[22:07] <Zillow> was thinking is was open to the world
[22:07] <Viman> fruitbag: try ls -A
[22:08] <Sherlock_> dw i guess there isn't anything else out there
[22:08] <Zillow> this I guess would ahve sped it up quite a lot maybe `find /usr -iname cupsd.conf`
[22:09] <Zillow> argh~! I meant nano `find /usr -iname cupsd.conf`
[22:09] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: no I don't use a hub direct connection.  Also not using it for booting I think I am going to try a pci usb controller just to rule to it out.  I've already done bios, kernel, all usb slots and tried drive in another ubuntu machine
[22:09] <Andrew131> So I guess Im just trying to ignore the inevitable
[22:09] <prax> ?
[22:10] <fruitbag> How can quake2 not exist when it clearly does?
[22:10] <Loshki> Zillow: I thought cupds.conf (like most config files) was under /etc, not /usr ?
[22:10]  * fruitbag is confused
[22:10] <zykotick9> fruitbag: are you using amd64 right?
[22:10] <fruitbag> No, zykotick9.
[22:10] <Viman> Hello, does anybody know how to create a .deb file from source. including the dependencies?
[22:10] <zykotick9> fruitbag: ok.
[22:11] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | Viman
[22:11] <jrib> !packaging | Viman
[22:11] <zykotick9> Viman: dependencies NOT included
[22:11] <Viman> I know
[22:11] <Viman> so how do I include them
[22:11] <Viman> like in a general deb file?
[22:12] <capcook> cd into quake2 directory and then type ls -a. then let us see the result
[22:12] <Viman> because I know checkinstall doesn't do that, but you can change what else it includes as you're making the deb file
[22:12] <fruitbag> .                 lib3dfxgl.so    libMesaGL.so.2.6  ref_gl.so     rogue
[22:12] <fruitbag> ..                libGL.so        quake2            ref_glx.so    xatrix
[22:12] <fruitbag> 3.20_Changes.txt  libMesaGL.so    README            ref_soft.so
[22:12] <fruitbag> baseq2            libMesaGL.so.2  readme.txt        ref_softx.so
[22:12] <FloodBot1> fruitbag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <metsys23> hi there! i am an ubuntu user and i want to change to an faster distro, and read that xubuntu or lubunt are faster than ubuntu. what you advise me? (please dont advise me linux mint, i have tried it and is to heavy)
[22:13] <Zillow> Loshki, I just figured that out, it didn't actually work the way I wrote it. still trying to figure it out more like <cat `find / -iname httpd.conf'>  <-- that for instance does work but say <cat `find /etc -iname httpd.conf'> does not.
[22:13] <Oer> readme.txt are awesome
[22:14] <Viman> metsys: Lubuntu is the fastest of them all.
[22:14] <DeviceZer0> I cannot get fullscreen video to play using vlc or totem. Video works fine when not fullscreen...i have both audio and video..but then I goto fullscreen all I get is either a blackscreen and audio or the last displayed frame and audio
[22:14] <Oer> metsys23, if you have 512 mb +, i would advise Xubuntu.
[22:14] <metsys23> i have 4gb ram
[22:15] <metsys23> 32bits can recognize 3gb so i have 3gb
[22:15] <Oer> metsys23, if your CPU can handle 64 bit, you would have all memory available
[22:15] <mavrick95> how do i format my hd while in ubuntu? i want to format the hd before installing the ubuntu again, and then load the DejaDup app to restore to my previous backup, is that right? is there a "smarter" way?
[22:15] <metsys23> i need a distro to use all day, with eclipse, games, office and other stufs
[22:15] <Viman> I think there's 64bit versions for xubuntu/lubuntu, no?
[22:16] <metsys23> yup, but that is not a problem, i think
[22:16] <metsys23> 1gb ram is not a big deal right?
[22:16] <Viman> well, if you're never past 2GB it won't
[22:17] <metsys23> there is a big diference in performance between ubuntu and xubuntu and lubuntu?
[22:17] <Loshki> Zillow: what happens when you run the non-working case -- "find / -iname httpd.conf" from a terminal?
[22:17] <metsys23> and what about drivers, ubuntu deal nice with my mobile boardcas internet, wifi, graphic and stuff
[22:17] <Viman> Xubuntu/Lubuntu are pretty similar in consumption, Lubuntu being slightly lower
[22:18] <Zillow> Loshki, thanks for telling me about all conf being in etc
[22:18] <Viman> they all have the Ubuntu Base, so if it works in Ubuntu, it works on them
[22:18] <zykotick9> Viman: XFCE is much heavier then LXDE actually, XFCE is similar to gnome2 in resource usage
[22:18] <metsys23> Viman: huumm, now i am motivated to install xubuntu or lubuntu...
[22:18] <pnorman> argh. wish I could at least get some idea of why my ubuntu box is hanging
[22:19] <Zillow> Loshki, I don't understand non-working case
[22:19] <Viman> metsys: do it
[22:19] <Viman> as pointed by zykotic, Lubuntu is lighter
[22:19] <cipher__> How can i manually turn my fan on?
[22:19] <cipher__> pwmconfig can't find any sensors
[22:20] <Loshki> Zillow: run the non-working case -- "find / -iname httpd.conf" from a terminal. What does the output look like (you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for the output)
[22:20] <Zillow> Loshki: it does this <cat: find / -iname httpd.conf: No such file or directory>
[22:20] <cfhowlett> metsys23: try them out via virtual box...
[22:20] <metsys23> Viman: i am triyng to decide what to use... i have a standard pc, compaq cq60, 4gb, 2,16gh... what should be my choise? lubuntu and xubuntu
[22:20] <cipher__> "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[22:21] <rooter__> Does anyone know how to configurate the robot ASURO in minicom ?
[22:21] <cfhowlett> metsys23: "standard" pc?  no idea what that means...but for the specs you cited, x/l ubuntu for sure
[22:21] <pnorman> cipher__: did you run sensors-detect?
[22:22] <cfhowlett> metsys23: my understanding is that xfce is the more mature and developed DE, so I'd suggest xubuntu.
[22:22] <cipher__> pnorman, I did, and it isn't installed. So i assumed ubuntu had its own way :/
[22:22] <cipher__> any idea what package it is under?
[22:23] <rooter__> how i can the databits in minicom?
[22:23] <pnorman> cipher__: lm-sensors
[22:23] <cipher__> thanks
[22:24] <Oer> cipher__, what is you chipset ?
[22:24] <cipher__> 0er, I am not sure. It's a xps15z, will aspci shed any light?
[22:24] <cipher__> err
[22:25] <pnorman> sensors-detect should tell you what your PWM chips are, if it finds them
[22:25] <Oer> macbook ?
[22:25] <metsys23> cfhowlett: ok, i probably will try xubuntu! is faster than ubuntu rigth?
[22:25] <mavrick95> how do i format my hd while in ubuntu? i want to format the hd before installing the ubuntu again, and then load the DejaDup app to restore to my previous backup, is that right? is there a "smarter" way?
[22:25] <mkultra_> good morning
[22:25] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: you can just format hd if unmounted. If you have it on a different hd, try gparted
[22:25] <cfhowlett> metsys23: it's LIGHTER than ubuntu due to the Desktop Environment and the default packages are not the same.
[22:26] <BlouBlou> !gparted | mavrick95
[22:26] <mkultra_> testing out new cooling system
[22:26] <Loshki> Zillow: run the find on its own without the "cat"...
[22:26] <mkultra_> small fan blowing under laptop air flow routed through a news paper
[22:26] <mkultra_> propped up on 4x4 pens
[22:27] <mkultra_> 87 degrees so far
[22:27] <mkultra_> time to make the computer freak out
[22:27] <dlentz> that's ghetto (congrats?)
[22:27] <kaiowas> If i want to partition my harddrive so i have two operating systems on it... How much should i give to Ubuntu? I want to learn the operating system and play around with it, media/networking and things like that. 50GB should be enough right?
[22:27] <cipher__> http://codepad.org/PDWAN6Ai
[22:27] <cipher__> 0er: http://codepad.org/PDWAN6Ai
[22:27] <Zillow> Loshki: it gives me permission denied
[22:27] <kremlon> i have an idea whats going on but i wont remember it in the morning.
[22:27] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: actually, i am looking to a way to restore to my previous backup without any hassles.
[22:28] <dlentz> cipher__, laptop uses acpi to control fan
[22:28] <mkultra_> ghetto airflow works GOOD
[22:28] <mkultra_> this laptop usually runs 160 everything when under load, its up to 90 degrees like this
[22:28] <dlentz> you should market it as ghettoflow
[22:28] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: the way is to format the hd first, then install the whole ubuntu os again and then running dejadup, right?
[22:28] <mkultra_> LOL
[22:29] <poseless> hi, how i change the data bit in minicom?
[22:29] <mkultra_> a aerodynamic laptop stand would be nice
[22:29] <mkultra_> adjustable
[22:29] <dlaflamme> in the Ubuntu file explorer, under Network, I see two identically named entries for my NAS. How can I determine why there are two or what is the difference between the two?
[22:29] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: it sounds it is goinmg to take a looooong time...
[22:29] <mavrick95> lo
[22:29] <mavrick95> *lol
[22:29] <mneptok> kaiowas: 20GB is more than enough if you're not storing much
[22:29] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: installing "the whole ubuntu" will automatically format your hd (or your partition) using ext4
[22:30] <kaiowas> mneptok: perfect, thank you.
[22:30] <mneptok> kaiowas: which 2 OSes?
[22:30] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: after that i run dejadup and restore to my previous backup, right?
[22:30] <Zillow> Loshki: I'm not sure why I would want to do that though as it should essentially not do anything. if I understand it correctly, the purpose for doing it is to open the found file inside something, unless we are trying to create a loop. XD
[22:30] <cfhowlett> kaiowas: my full install of Ubuntu studio is less than 10 G.  My /home and data are far more than than.
[22:30] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: Right.
[22:31] <Oer> cipher__, odd, the ubuntu page shows no problems https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z
[22:31] <pnorman_> cipher__: did sensors-detect find everything?
[22:31] <kaiowas> Running it in Parallels now, thought id give it a go as a "real" operating system.
[22:31] <cipher__> dlentz, I am not incredibly knowledgeable about linux, how does this allow me to change it?
[22:32] <cipher__> dlentz, I know it's for power man. but I don't know how to change it?
[22:32] <mneptok> kaiowas: installed with what other OS? on how big a disk?
[22:32] <kaiowas> mneptok: sorry it got laggy, i run OSX on 320gb harddrive.
[22:33] <poseless> how can i change the data bits in minicom?
[22:33] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: thank you very much!
[22:33] <cipher__> 0er, yes i am booting with those flags; so i am not even running acpi?
[22:34] <kaiowas> mneptok: but my harddrive is very full :P.
[22:34] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: You're welcome :)
[22:34] <mneptok> kaiowas: both Ubuntu (or any Linux) and OSX will easily use a FAT32 partition. so, minimal OSX and Linux partitions, and a large FAT32 (maybe TrueCrypted) for all your media and such. stuff that can live outside /home or /Uers
[22:34] <mneptok> */Users
[22:34] <spotteddox2> d
[22:34] <sp4z> Hi there how do i modify services that autostart using init.d?
[22:35] <kaiowas> mneptok: true, it could work. But some files i store are larger then FAT32 allow.  But.. maybe 4 partitions? 1. OSX 2. Ubuntu 3. HFS for large files 4. FAT32
[22:35] <spotteddox2> hmm
[22:35] <spotteddox2> does anyone use irssi
[22:35] <takkun> me
[22:36] <zacarias_> I can't delete items in a memory card. It's unlocked, but I keep having permissions issues. Any help?
[22:36] <poseless> Wie kann man in minicom 2.5 die Datenbits einer seriellen Schnittstelle konfigurieren?
[22:36] <aeon-ltd> spotteddox2: okkk now the real question?
[22:36] <aeon-ltd> !de | poseless
[22:36] <Viman> zacarias: are you doing it graphically?
[22:36] <Viman> through nautilus?
[22:36] <Oer> cipher__, the comment "acpi-off is bad" is true, besides that, acpi should handle the fancontrol, it will set to max if no acpi tool is found in LM sensors.. wich is your case, AFAIK
[22:36] <metsys23> hum i just spot a problem before install xubuntu
[22:36] <zacarias_> Viman: through Nautilus and through the terminal. I tried rm -rf
[22:37] <spotteddox2> !il
[22:37] <Viman> really? the filesystem may be read-only
[22:37] <kremlon> \0/
[22:37] <spotteddox2> היי מה קורה
[22:37] <metsys23> i just install windows in another partition and it destroi the grob so i can't acess my linux distro to backup my files...
[22:37] <kremlon> \0/
[22:37] <Oer> cipher__, awesome laptop btw
[22:37] <kremlon> ^
[22:37] <Viman> in which case, if you're going to delete EVERYTHING, you can just format it through GParted
[22:37] <metsys23> how can i fix it on windows, befor instal xubuntu?
[22:37] <Loshki> Zillow: the find command has to return at least one valid filename for "cat" to work. If find fails (as it does here, because you don't have permission to search "/") then cat will fail, and so the whole command fails...
[22:37] <cipher__> 0er, thanks.
[22:37] <zacarias_> Viman: maybe, it's a mobile phone sd card
[22:38] <takkun> my system hangs at the splash screen when I tried to boot after upgrading. I can see all the directories when launch rescue mode, but I can't get the system to boot the the desktop. Could anyone help me?
[22:38] <Viman> zacarias: you can unmount the card and remount it as writable through : sudo mount -o remount rw '/media/yourusbdrive'
[22:39] <Zillow> Loshki: I'm Root, but I would assume it could? work in su?
[22:39] <kaiowas> Wich irc program does people use under Linux? I use Xchat, anything else people recommend?
[22:39] <poseless> what are 'Flood Bot1-3' ?
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> poseless: prevent floods i.e spam
[22:40] <Loshki> Zillow: if you're root, it should work. Not sure why find fails with "/" but works with "/etc"...
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> poseless: or excessive posting
[22:40] <Zillow> Loshki: other way around, doesn't work with /etc
[22:40] <oPhelias_> @kaiowas, I use Empathy
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> kaiowas: irssi if you like cli, but really you could google this; most people don't like it when people run polls on irc
[22:40] <Viman> kaiowas: even firefox works through chatzilla
[22:41] <cfhowlett> kaiowas: chatzilla addon to ffox
[22:41] <Somelauw> Hi, opening files on an usb device(ntfs) works fine under windows 7 but when opening it using nautilus, it only shows only 1 file. What could be the cause?
[22:41] <cfhowlett> metsys23: restate your question plz
[22:41] <Loshki> Zillow: I still can't explain it. Maybe I should just shut-up now...
[22:41] <kaiowas> Thank you guys, I will check them out.
[22:41] <Viman> zacarias: did it work?
[22:42] <metsys23> cfhowlett: i have a linux partition working fine
[22:42] <cfhowlett> metsys23: OK and ...
[22:42] <the_eye_> I need a dmesg of someone running wubi. Could you post to me at pastebin.com ?
[22:42] <jen_> can someone help me with my virtualbox...
[22:42] <metsys23> cfhowlett: and install windows 7 in another partition... just before i reboot it, there is no more the boot option to choose linux or windows, just start in windows, and i have some files in linux partitions that i what to backup
[22:42] <Bsims> how do I change font size in empathy?
[22:43] <Zillow> Loshki: I think understand what you were saying, it's slow. but, it does serve my purposes.
[22:43] <cipher__> 0er, when you're back... Do you think I can just a heatgun to get the old fans spinning?
[22:43] <Bsims> cipher__: got a dead fan?
[22:43] <cipher__> Bsims, actually it works fine. But I am trying to turn it on by my own accord.
[22:43] <boba88> ikonia: does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:43] <Bsims> cipher__: what do you mean... is it temp controled or something?
[22:44] <metsys23> cfhowlett: now, i need to fix it in windows and have no idea ho to do it :(
[22:44] <cipher__> Bsims: sensors-detect: http://codepad.org/PDWAN6Ai ... and booting with acpi=noirq i915.semaphores=1
[22:44] <poseless> aeon-ltd: thank you, and how i have to image this? Is thier someone sitting with a shield? :D
[22:45] <boba88> does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:45] <jen_> my virtualbox will nto work for some odd reason :(
[22:45] <cfhowlett> metsys23: so you installed linux then windows?
[22:45] <Bsims> cipher__: so what does the sensor read for temp then?
[22:45] <metsys23> jen_: yup
[22:46] <takkun> after I installed updates. My system hangs at the splash screen.
[22:46] <cipher__> Bsims: I assume so?
[22:46] <cipher__> I don't know*
[22:46] <cfhowlett> metsys23: so you installed linux then windows?
[22:46] <cipher__> Bsims: It will turn on what it gets hot.
[22:46] <cfhowlett> metsys23> so you installed linux then windows?
[22:46] <cipher__> So I am assuming so.
[22:46] <Bsims> cipher__: run sensors
[22:46] <cipher__> Bsims: Actually whenever I start the nvidia gpu it spins.
[22:46] <metsys23> cfhowlett: yes, i have a linux instalation and after install windows, in diferent partitions
[22:47] <cfhowlett> metsys23: you need to reinstall grub.
[22:47] <boba88> does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:47] <cfhowlett> !grub|metsys23
[22:47] <jen_> Metsy23 umm well my vritualbox will not work annnd Im not sure why, I think it has to do with primary and secondary thingies
[22:47] <r0dy4>  /leave
[22:47] <boba88> metsys23: an easier way is to use boot repair
[22:47] <Viman> metsys: try rescatux
[22:47] <boba88> metsys23: you just need to use this application within the live cd
[22:48] <cfhowlett> jen_: virtualbox "will not work" = ???what
[22:48] <metsys23> ok, i will try rescatux, thanks!
[22:48] <Bsims> how do I change font size in empathy?
[22:48] <jen_> cfhowlett, i dont know DX hold on lemme play with it
[22:48] <Tomtiger11> How much is some ddr2 300 ram 1gb x2?
[22:48] <boba88> metsys23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:48] <boba88> does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:49] <jen_> yeah idk
[22:49] <bastidrazor> boba88: what do you think?
[22:49] <Nach0z> short answer is yes...
[22:49] <boba88> bastidrazor: i think yes but a little bit sceptic
[22:49] <Bsims> Tomtiger11: check newegg or tigerdirect
[22:50] <Tomtiger11> Bsims: K
[22:50] <boba88> bastidrazor: are there other requirements on whether you should use 64 bit or 32 bit
[22:50] <boba88> bastidrazor: like ram, cpu power etc.
[22:50] <Viman> boba: CPU architecture and BIOS
[22:51] <boba88> Viman: from the lm flag the cpu is fine? and what about bios?
[22:51] <Viman> if the CPU can't use 64-bit instructions, 64-bit OSs can't be used
[22:51] <spotteddox2> sss
[22:51] <Viman> sorry didn't mean to say BIOS
[22:51] <Viman> CPU arch is all
[22:51] <metsys23> thanks!!!
[22:51] <boba88> Viman: meaning since i already installed it everything is proven to be possible :)
[22:51] <jen_> could someone do teamviewer with me to figure it out? about my virtualbox?
[22:52] <bastidrazor> boba88: 64bit OS is the only requirement
[22:52] <Detergentizer> hi lo
[22:52] <Viman> metsys: GRUB
[22:52] <Bsims> how do I change font size in empathy?
[22:52] <Viman> is fixed?
[22:52] <Detergentizer> on firefox I hae an extension that is disabled ... how the fuck to delete
[22:52] <Detergentizer> '
[22:52] <boba88> bastidrazor: my question was if running a 64 bit os proves that my cpu is fully capable of 64 bit
[22:53] <_cb> How do you get banshee to play all the music files in a folder?
[22:53] <boba88> bastidrazor: together with the lm flag from proc/cpuinfo
[22:53] <Bsims> boba88: do a uname -a for me would ya
[22:53] <bastidrazor> boba88: oh, i did not get that from what you said. if your OS is 64 bit then yes your computer is fully capable of running 64 bit
[22:53] <dbugger> Hey guys. when trying to download the guestadditions for VirtualBox in Oneiric, I get an error, of server not responding. Ive checked the server and the folder they try to access doesnt exist. What should I do?
[22:53] <cyberboss> guys
[22:54] <dlaflamme> in the Ubuntu file explorer, under Network, I see two identically named entries for my NAS. How can I determine why there are two or what is the difference between the two?
[22:54] <boba88> Bsims: currently on a different computer with 32 bit os on it
[22:54] <boba88> Bsims: but on the one i am talking about it has 64 bit os
[22:55] <boba88> bastidrazor: thanks man
[22:55] <Bsims> boba88: than it will run 64bit apps
[22:55] <boba88> thanks guys, good night to all..., i am leaving now...
[22:56] <nicehs> hi,im new to linux. got a ubuntu server ive only been contacting using Putty,now gonna install VNC but I think I need a GUI of some kind first. can anyone tell me what I should "apt-get install .." to get that?  gnome,kde.. something like that?
[22:57] <Ben64> nicehs: why would you need vnc?
[22:57] <mongy> nicehs: if you do need a gui then as light as possible.  lubuntu/xubuntu
[22:58] <nicehs> uh not important just wanna try,would be nice with a desktop thats constantly on too instead of just commandline,looks nice
[22:58] <Ben64> installing lubuntu or xubuntu installs a ton of packages : /
[22:58] <Bsims> nicehs: I prefer kde, but thats just me
[22:58] <Dgameman1> HEY GUYS
[22:58] <Ben64> everything can be done on command line faster
[22:58] <Dgameman1> Is anyone here?
[22:58] <nicehs> hm..so any idea what i should "apt-get install " to get the best kinda gui thatll work with vnc?
[22:59] <Viman> nicehs: vinagre?
[22:59] <Dgameman1> I just installed ubuntu and I've been trying to get my wireless usb to work for the best 4 hours. Can someone please guide me?
[22:59] <Ben64> nicehs: if you install vncserver it should give you the requirements
[22:59] <cipher__> nicehs, fluxbox would probably be responsive.
[22:59] <nicehs> thx will look em up^^
[22:59] <Viman> vinagre is a vnc viewer, though I never used it.
[22:59] <Bsims> Oh wow... to change font size in empathy you have to manually edit the theme config file
[22:59] <Bsims> Why in the name of all that is holy just and pure is that the case?
[23:00] <Viman> badly coded?
[23:00] <Bsims> Viman: yet default on Ubuntu
[23:00] <Viman> Pidgin FTW
[23:00] <Viman> I can't complain, though. In openbox everything is done thtough config files
[23:00] <Bsims> Viman: yeah but for some reason pidgin isn't showing in taskbar on kde I mean its running, just no actual icon for it
[23:01] <Dgameman1> Can anyone help me with ubuntu?
[23:01] <Bsims> er in system tray
[23:01] <Viman> Bsisms: you can check it in the options, i think
[23:01] <Viman> to integrate it in the tray.
[23:01] <Bsims> Viman: I'll look
[23:01] <rmc3> Viman: you're making me want to use openbox again...
[23:01] <rmc3> hmm
[23:01] <Viman> do it
[23:01] <rmc3> I should
[23:02] <Bsims> Anyone know why xfce doesn't autoadd itself to gdm/kdm?
[23:02] <rmc3> never tried using anything other than xfce or gnome/unity in Ubuntu though
[23:02] <neiz> Whether I install virtualbox through Synaptic or directly from the website, I can't find anyway to run it, anyone familiar?
[23:02] <rmc3> experiences, anyone, in using openbox in ubuntu?
[23:03] <Ben64> neiz: read the manual
[23:03] <syslq> neiz: define cant find a way
[23:03] <Ben64> neiz: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/
[23:03] <Viman> rmc3: if you install LXDE or Lubuntu, Openbox is the window manager.
[23:03] <rmc3> orly
[23:03] <Dgameman1> can anyone please help me for god's sake?
[23:03] <Viman> yes, rly
[23:03] <starky> hola
[23:03] <syslq> neiz: you click on shortcut or what? Most probably kernel modules are not built and you need kernel headers for that
[23:03] <rmc3> Dgameman1: please just ask your questions
[23:03] <Dgameman1>  I just installed ubuntu and I've been trying to get my wireless usb to work for the best 4 hours. Can someone please guide me?
[23:03] <rmc3> oh, you did ask it
[23:03] <rmc3> ¯\(º_o)/¯
[23:04] <Ben64> !details | Dgameman1
[23:04] <rmc3> wireless drivers and linux, that's something I can't support :P
[23:04] <drakalen> !pl
[23:04] <h00k> !wireless | Dgameman1
[23:04] <Detergentizer> ubuntu firefox modifications is incompatible with firefox 10.0.1
[23:04] <Detergentizer> ubuntu firefox modifications 0.9rc2 (disabled) by Canonical Ltd.
[23:04] <Dgameman1> I have a problem with my belkin wireless usb card, I'm running ubuntu version 10.05, i followed the wifidocs and everything was perfect
[23:05] <Detergentizer> what the flerp that means
[23:05] <Dgameman1> up until the point of it asking me iwconfig
[23:05] <Dgameman1> and I saw nothing that said wlan0
[23:06] <Dgameman1> I'm 99% sure I followed everything correctly but then again it isn't working so I'm not sure what to do
[23:06] <Dgameman1> No ideas?
[23:07] <Ben64> Dgameman1: which belkin card, pastebin "lsusb"
[23:07] <Dgameman1> ok hold on
[23:09] <Dgameman1> Bus 004 Device 010: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[23:09] <RaceCondition_> why does the Ubuntu.com download page tell me that 32-bit is recommended?
[23:10] <aBound> RaceCondition_, The majority of users are still using 32-Bit.
[23:10] <Hugh> Hello?
[23:10] <h00k> RaceCondition_, aBound: I believe that may change for the next release, perhaps.
[23:10] <Canadian1296> Quick question, I want to install Ubuntu Desktop, but using the desktop install cd, I see no way to partition the disk to my liking. I want an encrypted partition with lvm and custom virtual partitions, etc. With the alternate install cd I know how (manual partitioning has way more options.) When i use the alternate cd I always use the cli mode. If i use normal will it install ubuntu desktop?
[23:11] <Bsims> Canadian1296: use the custom install
[23:11] <RaceCondition_> aBound: yeah, but why is it recommended? because more users means better community support?
[23:11] <cfhowlett> Detergentizer: I go the same error.  I had installed the transitional ubufox ubuntu/firefox branding package at some point.  Once I removed that bit, all was well.
[23:11] <aBound> h00k, It's a possibly no doubt but we can't know for sure.
[23:11] <aBound> RaceCondition_, Other countries and poor countries might not have the resources to move to 64-Bit.
[23:12] <itaylor57> RaceCondition_, it is bad wording, if your cpu is 64bit you should d/l 64
[23:12] <Dgameman1> So anybody have any idea?
[23:12] <Hugh> Newbie here:  Anyone successfully installed Minecraft on Xubuntu machine?
[23:12] <Dgameman1> Please god
[23:12] <aBound> Thus, 32-Bit is still recommended.
[23:12] <Dgameman1> I'vebeen trying to make this work for the passed 2 days
[23:12] <Dgameman1> Nobody has any idea about my Belkin carD?
[23:12] <aBound> RaceCondition_, But like h00k said they might recommend 64-Bit when the newer version arrives.
[23:12] <Dgameman1> It worked out of the box on archbang
[23:12] <Dgameman1> and on crunchbang I had to download a file
[23:12] <RaceCondition_> itaylor57: ok, that's what I wanted to know
[23:12] <Dgameman1> but on ubuntu, all hell breaks lose
[23:13] <h00k> aBound: it will be, for 12.04
[23:13] <aBound> RaceCondition_, Nothing is wrong with 64-Bit except a few minor 32-Bit apps might not work for 64-Bit.
[23:13] <Vuth> hi
[23:13] <Ben64> Dgameman1: you could get another wireless device
[23:13] <RaceCondition_> aBound: good to know;  I will download 32 bit for now for virtualisation purposes, but will go for 64 when I install it "natively"
[23:14] <Dgameman1> is that really you're suggestion?
[23:14] <Canadian1296> aBound: So the alternate cd?
[23:14] <aBound> The emulator ZSNES is not compatible with Ubuntu 64-Bit. It wasn't written for 64-Bit.
[23:14] <cfhowlett> Vuth: greetings
[23:14] <mkultra_> yeah we need games stat
[23:14] <neiz> why doesn't ubuntu create a shortcut in "Apps" or something for Virtualbox?
[23:14] <galerien> hi all, I'd like to share my connection between my Ubuntu laptop and my windows desktop (don't hit me pls ;) ), can you point me into the right direction ?
[23:15] <mkultra_> galerien, install apache
[23:15] <Dgameman1> Alright
[23:15] <Dgameman1> great
[23:15] <aBound> Canadian1296, Alternative CD for what?
[23:15] <Dgameman1> thanks guys
[23:15] <cfhowlett> neiz: Applications>System Tools>VirtualBox  but you can create a new shortcut where you want
[23:15] <sitic|afk> Dgameman1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10641446&postcount=5
[23:15] <mkultra_> then sudo ln -s /share /var/www
[23:15] <Canadian1296> I asked if I can install ubuntu desktop with the alternate install cd
[23:15] <mkultra_> or something like that share as in what u want to share
[23:16] <Bsims> Canadian1296: yeah you can
[23:16] <mkultra_> then browse to it in a browser on the other machine
[23:16] <mkultra_> via ip address
[23:16] <Canadian1296> Bsims: Okay thanks :)
[23:16] <Dgameman1> Thank you!
[23:16] <Dgameman1> I don't have internet on that computer tho
[23:16] <Dgameman1> so how can I get those files and such?
[23:16] <aBound> Canadian1296, The Alternative CD is more for Advanced installations if that's what you intend to do.
[23:16] <galerien> mkultra_, that's a http server... ?
[23:16] <neiz> cfhowlett: right, thanks didnt think about gnome - couldn't find a way in unity besides running "virtualbox" to start it
[23:16] <h00k> calcmandan: sure you can, you can just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:16] <mkultra_> yeah you can http your directory
[23:17] <Canadian1296> aBound: okay, yeah thats what I need then
[23:17] <aBound> Canadian1296, I gotcha.  :P
[23:18] <Dgameman1> :(
[23:18] <Dgameman1> I honestly give up
[23:18] <Dgameman1> I've been trying to do this for too long now
[23:18] <Dgameman1> =/
[23:18] <FloodBot1> Dgameman1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <Dgameman1> and no one knows how to fix it
[23:19] <Dgameman1> I'm sorry
[23:19] <mkultra_> whats ur problem?
[23:19] <Ben64> stop using enter as punctuation, and look at the link sitic|afk gave you
[23:19] <Dgameman1> I looked at the link he gave me
[23:19] <Dgameman1> My problem is this
[23:20] <Dgameman1> I followed the wifi help docs all the way through, everything was working. no errors appeared. It's just that when I type iwconfig, nothing shows up for wlan0. it doesn't even appear
[23:20] <Detergentizer> cfhowlett:  ok, thanks
[23:20] <aBound> Dgameman1, If your card worked out of the box for some other distro. Perhaps, it uses a newer kernel with built-in support for your card.
[23:20] <Detergentizer> cfhowlett:  but it is still there
[23:20] <psichas> my virtualBox do alot of pauses then i try run virtual machine, what's wrong with it ? How to fix it?
[23:20] <Ben64> Dgameman1: seriously, there is a comma key, use it instead of enter... there are 1455 people in here. And look at the link sitic|afk gave you!
[23:20] <cfhowlett> Detergentizer: sorry then IDK.  I'm in Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and will be going to XFCE with 12.04 - my unity exposure is minimal.  Ask the channel again.
[23:21] <Dgameman1> @aBound, So is there anything I can do to fix that?
[23:21] <Detergentizer> ''k
[23:21] <aBound> Dgameman1, I'd check the kernel that whatever distro you were using and than check the current version of Ubuntu's kernel.
[23:21] <Ben64> Dgameman1: the link you were given fixes it, just follow the steps
[23:21] <Detergentizer> i gots lanaguage-pack-en-base with exclaimation marks on it inside of the pakage manager
[23:21] <aBound> Dgameman1, Some newer kernels might remove support for older hardware.
[23:22] <aBound> Drivers are usually built into the kernel.
[23:22] <aBound> Dgameman1, It's like using newer hardware on an older kernel more or less it won't be supported.
[23:23] <Vuth> hi cfhowlett
[23:23] <Vuth> do you want to chat?
[23:24] <h00k> Vuth: this is the support channel, but you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[23:26] <root__> yo yo yo yo
[23:26] <root__> wooooo
[23:27] <root__> :P:P:P:P
[23:27] <FloodBot1> root__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Dgameman1> I did was st|ck said and it didn't work
[23:31] <aBound> Dgameman1, You can check this site to see if it's supported: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users or the channel #linux-wireless
[23:32] <shed-34046> help
[23:32] <shed-34046> how do i install the mozilla build package of firefox on ubuntu 10.10?
[23:32] <aBound> Give or take if the driver isn't built right into the kernel than you'd have to download the driver and install it.
[23:33] <aBound> shed-34046, The only way I see you getting Firefox 10 is from a PPA.
[23:33] <aBound> shed-34046, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/firefox-4-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-users/
[23:33] <Emerald_Fianna> Hello all
[23:33] <Oer> shed-34046, why ? FF 10 is in the repository
[23:34] <Emerald_Fianna> Can anyone tell me if 2gigs of ram is enough for 11.10?
[23:34] <shed-34046> I want to install the mozilla build so i can have the firefox that auto updates.. so i don't have to use the update manager to check for updates
[23:34] <Ben64> Emerald_Fianna: yes it is
[23:34] <holstein> Emerald_Fianna: run it live and see.. should be fine depending on what you are doing.. i would probably chose the 32bit version
[23:34] <newbie-bob> I need help on mailserver. Anyone?
[23:34] <aBound> Emerald_Fianna, I have 16GB of RAM and so far only used about 1GB.
[23:34] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Is is (: you can look up the system requirements at the website.
[23:35] <thelegace> hi could someone help me get my gpt/raid partition installed
[23:35] <aBound> shed-34046, As far as I know you still have to use the update manager to update Firefox.
[23:35] <mkultra_> yeah 2 gigs is enough
[23:35] <mkultra_> i run 10.10 on 2 gigs
[23:35] <jstoone> newbie-bob: Please state your current problem/situation so you can get a faster reply (:
[23:35] <thelegace> normally in fedora i can go to the /dev/mapper directory and find what i want to mount
[23:35] <thelegace> but im trying various things but this is the what i get
[23:36] <mkultra_> i run 10.10 + squid + apache + browsers
[23:36] <mkultra_> + ftp
[23:36] <Emerald_Fianna> Ben64: I managed to get my old laptop working today, it's amd dual core 1.7ghz, 2 gigs ram and 160gb hard drive, I installed 11.10 clean on it without anything else and i'm getting a boot time of about 50 seconds, is that ok?
[23:36] <Raikia> thelegace: Are you looking for something like /dev/disk/by-label/
[23:36] <Raikia> ?
[23:36] <thelegace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839806/
[23:36] <thelegace> Raikia, i tried that as well
[23:36] <thelegace> same error
[23:36] <thelegace> also i have no by label option
[23:36] <Raikia> try by-id
[23:36] <Ben64> Emerald_Fianna: old laptops tend to have old, slow hard drives. that would make a longer boot time.
[23:36] <thelegace> only id, path and uuid
[23:36] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: That's fine (:
[23:37] <thelegace> Raikia, i tried all of the relevant ones
[23:37] <jstoone> Ben64: true.
[23:37] <shed-34046> wait would it hurt to put firefox folder from the file i downloaded and extracted in the etc location on the file system on my computer where all the other stuff is?
[23:37] <bobenhaus> anyone know a way to sync/show photos from picasa to the ubuntu photo viewer?
[23:37] <Emerald_Fianna> delighted so I am, before it broke it was running windows 7 like a old lame dog, this seem much better. Can anyone recommend good websites for learning about ubuntu?
[23:37] <thelegace> Raikia, this is what i have to work with
[23:37] <thelegace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839809/
[23:37] <Ben64> shed-34046: what are you trying to do
[23:37] <Oer> shed-34046, sure, you can build your own version
[23:38] <Oer> !compile
[23:38] <bobenhaus> thelegace: thanks
[23:38] <shed-34046> Install firefox 10.0.1 from the tar.bz2 file i downloaded
[23:38] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: normally it just works, when you hit a problem use google :)
[23:38] <bobenhaus> !picasa
[23:38] <jstoone> Guys, I'm about to do a backup atm. could you tell me a couple of things that you backup? Just to be sure I'm not missing anything in my script ;)
[23:38] <Ben64> shed-34046: why not use a ppa?
[23:39] <Emerald_Fianna> Cool, it seems very easy to use, I've often used the live usb for internet banking etc but this is my first time installing it from scratch
[23:39] <tonymiele> ciao
[23:39] <tonymiele> !list
[23:39] <shed-34046> I don't know i want to have the mozilla build one that i downloaded.. xD
[23:39] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Welcome! :D
[23:39] <newbie-bob> I have set up my mailserver and everything works great. It is because I have in /etc/postfix/main.cf  put  [relayhost = smtp.someisp.no]. Is there another way of doing this so that I dont need a relayhost?
[23:40] <Ben64> shed-34046: ppa works better with ubuntu, and gives you updates without having to compile again
[23:40] <Vuth> which linux looks most like MAC OS?
[23:40] <shed-34046> ok
[23:40] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: have a look at the synptic packet manager for installing software, it's quite different from windows
[23:40] <Emerald_Fianna> Thanks jstoone, this is how useless I am, I don't even know how to send this message so it appears in red like your one to me did!
[23:41] <Emerald_Fianna> Thanks recon_lap will do
[23:41] <gotwake> Everytime I try to install anything through the update manager or software center, it says ¨Failed to download packages¨.  can anyone help me with this?
[23:41] <Oer> Vuth, look for an OsX theme :-)
[23:41] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: You just did ;) whenever your name is mentioned in an IRC message it get's highlighted on your screen.
[23:41] <mkultra_> my os is very osx style
[23:41] <Vuth> Oer for linux ubuntu?
[23:42] <Oer> !theme | Vuth
[23:42] <shed-34046> How do i make it so firefox will auto update without the need to check for updates using update manger?
[23:42] <shed-34046> *manager
[23:42] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone: so it's that easy!
[23:42] <Emerald_Fianna> Cool
[23:42] <jstoone> mkultra_: Vuth: You could take screen for him and paste it? And maybe tell him what you've done or which one you've used? (
[23:42] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: and don't fear the command line, it's your friend :)
[23:42] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: you here?
[23:43] <Oer> Vuth, there might be a 9.4 theme too
[23:43] <Emerald_Fianna> recon_lap: cool, any good recommendations on where to get started with it?
[23:43] <Martindude> Hi
[23:43] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Give me a second and I'll get you a link to where i started.
[23:43] <Martindude> Hello
[23:43] <gotwake> Could anybody help me with my issue?
[23:43] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone: thanks
[23:43] <pragmaticenigma> Yes Andrew131
[23:44] <Andrew131> I just got back with a new USB 3.0 PCI-E card
[23:44] <Martindude> hello
[23:44] <Andrew131> same deal
[23:44] <Martindude> Can any body respond?
[23:44] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Guess another thing to maybe try... Do you have a second computer?
[23:44] <Oer> !ask | Martindude
[23:45] <Andrew131> Yep
[23:45] <Andrew131> And the drive works fine on it
[23:45] <Andrew131> Which is why I was sure it was going to be this card
[23:45] <Andrew131> lol
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Same version of Ubuntu?
[23:45] <Been> hey, just put in a live disc to try ubuntu out and everything froze
[23:45] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: If you're interested in the Nitty Gritty, you could read this PDF - http://www.itworld.com/sites/default/files/UbuntuUnleashed2012_Helmke_ch10.pdf
[23:45] <Andrew131> Well no because I upgraded to the 3.2 kernel to see if that solved the issue
[23:45] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: everyone have there own path, I just learned what i needed as i needed it, if you get stuck you can always ask in here. but you may have a different style
[23:46] <Been> the system still ran, as a window I had opened popped up, but the mouse and keyboard stopped giving any input
[23:46] <Been> I've been having this problem for a few different releases of Ubuntu
[23:46] <Martindude> Hi, I have Ubuntu 11.10 desktop 32-bit install allong side windows 7. Im having problems accesing Ubuntu documents and folders from windows
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Guess the newer kernel could be to blame.... not sure on that one
[23:46] <Martindude> any ideas?
[23:47] <Ben64> Martindude: windows doesnt support linux
[23:47] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone, recon_lap: thanks guys
[23:47] <Andrew131> Its not the newer kernel because I put it on to see if it did solve the issue
[23:47] <CXIV> I got ubuntu image on sda6 , I want to boot it from grub2 .I need to set" set root=(hd0,6)"  ?
[23:47] <Ben64> Martindude: linux's* filesystem by default, but you can install a driver to give you limited access
[23:47] <Andrew131> No worries though I was just sort of hoping you'd have thought of something I didnt
[23:47] <pragmaticenigma> Martindude: Ubuntu and Windows use different file systems.  Ubuntu has drivers for accessing windows folders, but Window does not have support to Ubuntu files.... you will need to make sure you save your documents to your windows folders if you want to access them later in windows
[23:47] <Martindude> were can i get this driver?
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: what is the motherboard make?
[23:48] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Maybe you want to learn how to navigate in the terminal first, here you go - http://freshtutorial.com/basic-ubuntu-command-tutorial-for-beginners/
[23:48] <Ben64> Martindude: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[23:48] <Andrew131> one sec
[23:48] <Martindude> Thanks alot! this irc chat works!
[23:48] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: And again as recon_lab said, do not fear to ask a question, we'll try to help as much as we can (:
[23:49] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone: thanks
[23:49] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Happy nerding (:
[23:50] <Emerald_Fianna> thanks
[23:50] <Oer> Martindude, Ben64 ext2read won't work if ubuntu uses ext4
[23:50] <shed-34046> i really want to install the auto updating firefox package from the mozilla getfirefox website that i downloaded like google chrome.
[23:50] <Been> does anyone else have issues with the mouse and keyboard locking up?
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> Oer: I use ext2read on ext4 and it works
[23:50] <Martindude> K i have sda5
[23:50] <Ben64> Oer: yes it will
[23:51]  * Oer is stunned
[23:51] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: http://www.nationwidesurplus.com/p-5266-hp-proliant-ml350-g4-server-system-motherboard-390546-001.aspx
[23:51] <pragmaticenigma> ext4 and ext2 are the same file system... ext4 adds more options but doesn't change anything with out the files are saved to the disk
[23:51] <Martindude> One more thimg, can some one please tell me the file path for the User's music on ubuntu?
[23:53] <Oer> Martindude, ~/Music or /home/<account>/Music
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> Martindude: the path would depend on where the user created it
[23:53] <newbie-bob> Got to go. Will return tomorrow....Bye.
[23:53] <newbie-bob> quit
[23:53] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: I'm stumpped... I'm really surprised that a new card wouldn't have solved the problem for you... Is it possible to boot live and test?
[23:53] <newbie-bob> \q
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> newbie-bob: other way
[23:53] <recon_lap> Martindude:  /home/$username/Music is normal default, does not mean all music goes in there though
[23:54] <Martindude> Thanks recon_lap and Oer!
[23:54] <Andrew131> I could I'm not sure what I'd get different its a pretty fresh install < 1wk and Ive really only added apache/mysql etc… to it
[23:55] <damo22> Andrew131: what is the problem, sorry i joined late
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> It really shouldn't matter Andrew131, but stranger things have happened
[23:55] <gotwake> OK, I´m on 11.10.  Every time I try to download anything in software manager, it says ¨Failed to download packages¨.  Check internet connection.  I am connected.  Can anybody help?
[23:56] <pragmaticenigma> gotwake: Do you have any firewalls enabled?
[23:57] <Andrew131> Hey damo22, I've got a usb external hard drive.  In the logs I get that the high speed usb device is reset and then any process that has anything to do with the hard drive is blocked
[23:57] <gotwake> I don´t believe so, how can I find out?
[23:57] <Andrew131> ie ls, cp, even fdisk
[23:57] <Andrew131> The rest of the OS continues to chug along
[23:59] <Andrew131> I figured since the drive works on another machine and I updated the bios, tried a new kernel, it must be the usb controller
[23:59] <Andrew131> So I just ran out and grabbed a new 3.0 usb pcie card and tried that
[23:59] <damo22> Andrew131: i have noticed other people having issues with usb3
[23:59] <Andrew131> Same deal except instead of the error being high speed its super speed b/c of 3.0