[05:57] <jeremiah_> is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?
[05:57] <venkatmangudi> ubuntu 11.10?
[05:57] <idan_> yep
[05:57] <idan_> ubuntu 11.10
[05:57] <venkatmangudi> no screen settings?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> myhero: Then save and close the file and run "sudo update-grub" and try rebooting to test that it worked.
[05:57] <idan_> oh screen
[05:57] <idan_> yes i have
[05:58] <idan_> and i need to tick the option dim screen to save power?
[05:58] <myhero> 1min jordan editor came up
[05:58] <venkatmangudi> yep
[05:58] <georgelappies> morning all, has the day on which precise will be released been determined yet?
[05:59] <jeremiah_> is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?
[05:59] <georgelappies> venkatmangudi: was that an affirmation on my question, if so what is the date? ;)
[06:00] <TRAVISg> any know what is up with Chromium??? I have tried complete removal and reinstall still no luck. I am running ubuntu 11.10
[06:01] <mi3> hello!
[06:01] <TRAVISg> I have done a purge from terminal and reinstalled chromium stable still seem to be missing apps/chromium.rc whatever that is
[06:01] <venkatmangudi> Georgelappies, i am sorry. was responding to idan_
[06:01] <jeremiah_> is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?
[06:01] <idan_> thank you very much it really work!
[06:01] <idan_> thank you!!
[06:02] <iceroot> jeremiah_: #ubuntu+1 and yes but only from the oracle website
[06:02] <myhero> @jordan error encountered - pranshu@pranshu-Lenovo-G550:~$ sudo update-grub
[06:02] <myhero> /etc/default/grub: 6: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[06:02] <venkatmangudi> have fun, idan_
[06:02] <jeremiah_> iceroot, how do i instal? the website isn't helpful.
[06:02] <myhero> jordan...
[06:03] <iceroot> jeremiah_: try to use openjdk instead its free
[06:03] <TRAVISg> Can any one help me with Chromium?
[06:03] <jeremiah_> ice command?
[06:03] <jeremiah_> iceroot, command.....
[06:04] <iceroot> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[06:04] <iceroot> jeremiah_: and 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <jeremiah_> iceroot, ok and thanks!
[06:05] <myhero> jordan_u
[06:07] <nathwill> jeremiah_ come party in #ubuntu+1, we have cookies
[06:07] <TRAVISg> Am I in the wrong place to ask about Chromium no functioning in Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:08] <myhero> jordan where r u ?
[06:09] <myhero> any1
[06:09] <Jordan_U> myhero: Can you pastebin the current contents of /etc/default/grub? You probably forgot the quotation marks.
[06:10] <myhero> yea i left them
[06:10] <myhero> ok trying again with quotation marks
[06:12] <monadist> what's the best resource to get started with qt... I want to use it to learn C++
[06:14] <myhero> ok jordan terminal did something....rebooting and checking...
[06:34] <Vlad_____> Hallo! Can you please tell how to configure the reconnection to the wi-fi network. Where should I write ifconfig wlan0 down / up? When the reboot the access point, the server is not connected. Now, I created a script and run it every 5 minutes cron (syslog: CRON [4004]: (root) CMD (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)), but did not reconnect when network lost: (
[06:37] <Agent_bob> is this a typo      (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)   should be   (/home/wirelesscheck.sh)    the extra space will cause a failure
[06:37] <Agent_bob>   @ Vlad_____
[06:38] <DropsOfSerenity> can someone send me a message? just wanna test somethin
[06:38] <Agent_bob> np
[06:40] <irenicus19> anyone knows how to effectively use powertop? :P
[06:41] <irenicus19> or how to save power ton laptp..
[06:41] <irenicus19> laptop*
[06:43] <Vlad_____> Agent_bob: There is no typo in crontab, it in googletranslate ;)  syslog: CRON[5585]: (root) CMD (/home/wirelesscheck.sh) - path is ok.
[06:44] <Agent_bob> vlad_____ ok,   just noticed the space there and knew that if it was in your file it would cause problems.      i don't know what else to tell you.   good luck ;/
[06:44] <Vlad_____> crontab: */5 * * * * /home/wirelesscheck.sh
[06:45] <Agent_bob> vlad_____    errr    /home/script.name     ?           not  /home/someuser/script.name  ?
[06:46] <Agent_bob> just checking.
[06:49] <FireStorms> hi guys, few months back I installed some audio package. Now when I plug my headphones into my laptop the sound does not stop playing through the laptop's speaker. I have forgot the name of the package too! Is there anyway I can find it?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> vlad_____   just a suggestion, when makeing scripts for cron or init you might want to protect them by letting root own them and putting them in /etc/ "or some other system dir".     if you own a script that cron runs as root, if someone accesses the script and changes it....  they own you!
[06:51] <test1234567> #ubuntu-de
[06:51] <nathwill> Agent_bob, i seem to remember a story about a girl pwn'ing her families parental controls that way...
[06:51] <Agent_bob> vlad_____ if root owns it and it's not writable to anyone else, and they can't delete it and replace it with their own script....   it's much harder to exploit.
[06:52] <test1234567> Hallo I need some help with flash and ubuntu 11.10
[06:52] <Agent_bob> nathwill   not familear with the story,  but it just stands to reason that you don't want root running your scripts if there is any chance of them being changed.
[06:54] <Agent_bob> nathwill  it's like locking the house and leaving the key under the welcome mat    :)))
[06:54] <Vlad_____> Agent_bob: who should owned script with "ifconfig down/up" and where i should store it?
[06:55] <Agent_bob> vlad_____    owner   root:root    permissions   750  or  755    and probably  in  /etc/  or   /var/   or even  /usr/local/sbin
[06:55] <nathwill> agent_bob: http://tinyurl.com/7jbtl3a
[06:56] <Agent_bob> nathwill  nice
[06:56] <Vlad_____> Agent_bob: thx. I try it now.
[06:56] <nathwill> vlad___ if it's a script that runs at network up/down events, and you're using networkmanager, /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ is brilliant
[06:57] <Agent_bob> nathwill   but cron is running every 5 minutes    so that would work but is like /usr/local/sbin   kinda
[06:57] <Agent_bob> one could also use  /root/
[06:57] <Agent_bob> that's safe       "sort of"   :S
[06:57] <nathwill> oh
[06:57] <nathwill> sorry, didn't have the full picture
[06:58] <tim167> help, more and more programs start to SEGFAULT on me, what could be wrong?
[06:58] <Bragex9> how can I from a terminal window force ubuntu to reboot and perform a filesystem check?
[06:58] <Agent_bob> nathwill   your suggest wasn't bad...    just lacked one bit of info        so  not a problem.
[06:58] <Agent_bob> good night all   !
[07:00] <kingkatari> i am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error
[07:01] <tim167> chromium-browser > Segmentation Fault, Evolution > Segmentation Fault, nautilus > Segmentation Fault.... help! I do have enough free disk space, I do have enough RAM afaict...help please ! thanks
[07:01] <kingkatari> checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes
[07:01] <kingkatari> checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no
[07:01] <kingkatari> configure: error: Missing required libmemcached library
[07:01] <kingkatari> how can i check to make sure it is installed
[07:01] <Myrtti> tim167: could you first tell us what version of Ubuntu you are using?
[07:02] <kingkatari> 11.10
[07:02] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, sudo touch /forcefsck        sudo shutdown -r now
[07:02] <Bragex9> thanks
[07:02] <tim167> Myrtti: Ubuntu 11.10
[07:02] <Myrtti> tim167: have you done RAM test yet?
[07:03] <tim167> Myrtti: how do I test RAM ?
[07:04] <tim167> Myrtti: I'm trying now with the 'System Testing' application
[07:07] <kingkatari> can anyone help with that problem?
[07:14] <kilik90s> quien viv e?
[07:14] <kilik90s> qien vive?
[07:14] <kilik90s> exico
[07:14] <Myrtti> tim167: if you restart your computer, and press shift at the very beginning of boot, you should come up with a list of options including Ubuntu, and memtest+. Pick Memtest and let it run a few times, preferably overnight if possible
[07:15] <tim167> Myrtti: ok, I'll try that later, thanks
[07:15] <FireStorms> can I make Ubuntu speak to my Ipad 3?
[07:18] <philip__> guys, is it possible to build an rtl driver with dkms module for someone who can't access internet during install?
[07:18] <djszapi> Hey! Has anybody tried Ubuntu on this Panasonic toughbook ? http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-laptop-toughbook-19.asp
[07:18] <paulus68> is there an easy way to check if a user is connected to my proxy? I also want to be notified by mail when this user is connected to my proxy? how do I achieve this
[07:19] <djszapi> or basically on any fully-rugged Panasonic toughbook ?
[07:24] <ennio> hi
[07:24] <ennio> !list
[07:24] <kingkatari> i am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error
[07:24] <kingkatari>  checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes
[07:24] <kingkatari>  checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no
[07:24] <kingkatari> configure: error: Missing required libmemcached library
[07:24] <kingkatari> but i have it installed so what can i do
[07:25] <auronandace> djszapi: should work, not sure about the gobi 2000 mobile broadband or the intel graphics though
[07:25] <djszapi> auronandace: yep, just checked out a youtube video, and looks good.
[07:25] <haux> Can somebody recommend a program that will search files for a specific piece of text?
[07:26] <auronandace> djszapi: depends how new the intel graphics is, also the specs don't mention if it uses sandy bridge
[07:26] <Vlad___> Heh! "/home/wirelesscheck.sh: line 2: iwconfig: command not found"
[07:26] <Vlad___> why?
[07:27] <djszapi> haux: grep
[07:28] <pmmr> haux: find .| grep -r 'text_to_search' *
[07:28] <DropsOfSerenity> Vlad___, use /sbin/iwconfig
[07:28] <haux> pmmr, if i want to search the entire filesystem, do I replace * with / ?
[07:29] <gtech_> I'm booted via liveCD but it's 32bit and the drive I'm mounting is a 64bit install, is there still an easy way to add a user to the install or should I stick to grabbing a 64bit live cd so I can chroot then adduser?
[07:29] <pmmr> haux: run it in / with sudo
[07:29] <haux> ok, thank you guys
[07:29] <pmmr> haux: np ;)
[07:29] <Vlad___> $iwconfig - work fine. But it isn't working in my script
[07:29] <philip__> I'm officially off. Later. :)
[07:30] <gtech_> Heh I need to be able to login with the new user so I can SU
[07:31] <Vlad___> DropsOfSerenity: $iwconfig - work fine. But it isn't working in my script. Why?
[07:33] <bekks> gtech_: you dont need su, but sudo.
[07:33] <pmmr> or sudo -i
[07:33] <bekks> All you need to do is to provide a password to your new user.
[07:33] <bekks> sudo -i is discouraged.
[07:34] <pmmr> bekks: Because ? If you know what you're doing ;)
[07:34] <gtech_> erm what? I have no user I can login as when I boot the install, so I'm trying to add one
[07:34] <bekks> pmmr: _If_ - thats the culprit.
[07:34] <gtech_> the point is so that I can login, then su to a user that I've been locked out of because I borked my .profile and it's caused the startup to hang
[07:35] <bekks> gtech_: what are you really trying? During the install, you dont need to log in as user anyway.
[07:35] <bekks> Just get a live cd and fix that broken .profile
[07:35] <paulus68> is there an easy way to check if a user is connected to my proxy? I also want to be notified by mail when this user is connected to my proxy? how do I achieve this
[07:36] <gtech_> I'm using install to refer to the linux files that I've installed onto the drive already
[07:36] <coder2> Hello. Please help me to resolve shutdown issue with natty. My system is just repbooting instead of power off.
[07:36] <bekks> paulus68: No, there is no easy way.
[07:37] <coder2> Lucid worked well though.
[07:37] <bekks> gtech_: Are you installing Ubuntu or are you trying to recover your .profile?
[07:37] <gtech_> I can't get to the .profile because my home dir is heavily encrypted and I have the login creds which by some opaque method yields the encryption passpharse which I have lost
[07:37] <bekks> gtech_: So you even lost the key to decrypt your encrypted installation?
[07:37] <gtech_> but if I can login as another user, I can su to my normal user, which will decrypt my home dir
[07:38] <paulus68> bekks: ok is there a way to achieve this I am using squid?
[07:38] <gtech_> bekks, yes, yes I did :(
[07:38] <bekks> paulus68: Sounds like heavy scripting, on-the-fly log file analysis, and usage of cron and smtp to inform you via mail.
[07:38] <paulus68> bekks: ok
[07:39] <bekks> gtech_: With a lost passphrase, you cant decrypt anything.
[07:40] <gtech_> bekks, nope the passphrase is on my disk, which is encrypted by my login, but I don't know where the encrypted passphrase is and it isn't at .ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase like the ubuntu docs suggest
[07:40] <gtech_> BUT ubuntu automatically grabs it when I login, so I'm relying on it
[07:41] <gtech_> thus, the reason why I'm using this roundabout method
[07:41] <Vlad___> DropsOfSerenity: ok, thanks u. I find that problem with PATH: in crontab
[07:42] <bekks> Vlad___: Using the crontab, you have no environment - you have to specify absolute paths to applications you want to run.
[07:42] <bekks> Vlad___: like /sbin/ifconfig instead of ifconfig.
[07:43] <gtech_> bekks, so chroot and adduser are my best options for creating a login?
[07:43] <bekks> gtech_: I still dont get why/what you are really trying, sorry.
[07:44] <coder2> Hello. Could anybody help, please.
[07:44] <bekks> !ask
[07:44] <gtech_> bekks, I'm trying to boot a liveCD, mount a drive which has the user I can't login to, create a user on that drive so I can login without the system hanging at login, then su
[07:45] <coder2> My system is running natty, It does not perform power off on shundown, just rebooting instead. How to fix it?
[07:45] <bekks> gtech_: su will invoke a login shell of the user you are trying to su to. Thus, it wont work, when the .profile is corrupted.
[07:47] <linuxuz3r> hello
[07:47] <linuxuz3r> how do i show menus in gnome shell
[07:47] <ubuntu__> linuxuz3r, click on the application tab on the panel
[07:48] <MarKsaitis> if I download and install latest precise paragon server, can I later on upgrade it to the one released on 26th april?
[07:48] <gtech_> bekks, okay great, I guess my next option is to try to find the encrypted passphrase that's on my disk, I set it up probably with Natty, how do you suggest I find that file?
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu__, i want the gnome shell with the classic menu
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> i used to have it but now i dont
[07:50] <Zenger> Hi guys,
[07:50] <bekks> gtech_: I never used ecryptfs (didnt make any sense to me at all) until now, sorry. Maybe the forums or the community help pages will help you.
[07:50] <Zenger> I've installed the nvidia driver but they have a very low res
[07:50] <Zenger> can't make bigger than 640x489
[07:50] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Yes.
[07:50] <Zenger> is there anyway I could change that ?
[07:51] <Heshanh> hewy guys first time running ubuntu here. i insalled lamp-server where do i find the apace config file
[07:51] <MarKsaitis> bekks, thank you!
[07:51] <gtech_> bekks, okay thanks
[07:52] <bekks> Heshanh: In /etc/ you will find the configuration files for apache, mysql and php.
[07:52] <bekks> Heshanh: How did you install your "lamp-server"?
[07:52] <pmmr> Heshanh: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -> Apache
[07:52] <Heshanh> so ect is where all the confi files are
[07:52] <Heshanh> wats the /var folder
[07:53] <Heshanh> cos i found www and figured thaths teh web root. but when i tried to create a folder in www it says persmission denied
[07:53] <pmmr> Heshanh: cd /var/www
[07:53] <pmmr> Heshanh: sudo mkdir "folder"
[07:54] <pmmr> Heshanh: sudo chmod -R 777 .
[07:54] <Heshanh> i cant use the gui?
[07:54] <bekks> No.
[07:54] <pmmr> Heshanh: hum... not really ;)
[07:55] <subthalamus> anybody a minbif user?
[07:55] <tim167> hello, I copied a directory structure, using Nautilus, the original is 5Gb in size, but Nautilus shows the copy as 54MB, but it changes size each time I look at right-click>Properties in Nautilus, it grows or shrinks each time, but never is 5 GB. I copied it using "cp -r ~/source ~/media/dest" and that process finished successfully...I suppose something is wrong with Nautilus...how else can I check the actual size of the copied directory and ma
[07:55] <tim167> ke sure that everything is there?
[07:55] <Heshanh> do i ahe to do sudo and give the password everytime i make a new dir
[07:55] <linuxuz3r> how can i see the folder
[07:55] <linuxuz3r> s
[07:56] <zahid> hello
[07:56] <pmmr> Heshanh: not after the chmod -R 777 .
[07:56] <zahid> anybody here from lahore
[07:57] <Heshanh> i did sudo mkdir test in /var/www  and it asked for the password
[07:57] <dcUnit3d> hey so i've got a question.  my upgrade manager or whatever kept stopping in the middle of updating.  and i needed to restart anyways.
[07:57] <subthalamus> minbif says it is running but dont see it bound to a port using netstat -p
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> i guess it was dumb but i restarted. and now my system is hosed
[07:58] <subthalamus> | minbig
[07:58] <subthalamus> *minbif
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> ?? ..  anyways is there any way to like finish or repair the upgrades using my live cd?
[07:58] <linuxuz3r> how do i install flash player
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> i would just reinstall, but i went through hell to get my dual graphics to work
[07:58] <arp-> liberal:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> and i really don't feel like doing that again
[07:59] <arp-> linuxuz3r *
[08:01] <dcUnit3d> hey, can anyone help me please?
[08:01] <dcUnit3d> every time i try to google this, all that comes up is repairing the GRUB bootloader and that's not what i need to do
[08:01] <zeroblock> whats your problems
[08:01] <dcUnit3d> thanks man
[08:02] <dcUnit3d> my upgrade manager or whatever kept stopping in the middle of updating.  and i needed to restart anyways.
[08:02] <dcUnit3d> i guess it was dumb but i restarted. and now my system is hosed
[08:02] <dcUnit3d> like it gets to the point where it says ubuntu and there are 5 dots on the screen.  but it just sits there.
[08:03] <dcUnit3d> I've got the live cd in now.  is there a way to clean my apt-get packages from the live cd?
[08:03] <dcUnit3d> (not the packages that the live cd is using)
[08:06] <djszapi> auronandace: do you think it is worth spending more money for an emperorlinux supported toughbook, or I can manually get ubuntu work ? I have ten years of linux experience and strong programming background.
[08:06] <djszapi> auronandace: but I have never dealt with this question in topic. However installing linux nowadays is easy-peasy. I guess touch is not really a problem either nowadays, nor the keyboard.
[08:07] <djszapi> auronandace: perhaps the graphics stack, or something else ?
[08:07] <DropsOfSerenity> Vlad___, glad I helped, yeah those PATH vars are tricky, was about to tell you that that sort of stuff can get funky when dealing with scripts
[08:08] <Vlad___> DropsOfSerenity: ;)
[08:11] <opalepatrick> is it not possible to have a global inbox in thunderbird? Using ubuntu 11.10 (64) unity. Cannot find the setting
[08:11] <linuxuz3r> any one have windows 7 recovery partition?
[08:11] <linuxuz3r> or windows vista recovery partition
[08:16] <kapz> I want to share my Samsung printer (ML-1670) connected via usb to Ubuntu 11.10  with Windows 7. bot pcs are in LAN. I have shared my printer via cups through IPP, I can also add it in windows..but when I send print job nothing happens...
[08:18] <kapz> damn it
[08:18] <bekks> kapz: Then check the cups logs.
[08:19] <nlko> hi, i am using gpg keys for encryption of files. can i use these public/private keys for ssh auth?
[08:19] <nlko> or do i need to generate different ones?
[08:19] <bekks> nlko: gpg keys cant be used with ssh.
[08:19] <linuxuz3r> can i run compiz on top of gnome shell?
[08:19] <nlko> bekks: thanks
[08:19] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I've just created a long and complex bash script.  It works perfectly, but every now and then I would like to run it within the terminal and see it enter the commands along with the output.  Is there a way to do this?
[08:19] <bekks> nlko: ssh-keygen -t dsa will generate a DSA keypair for your user.
[08:20] <nlko> bekks: and then i use that right?
[08:20] <bekks> nlko: Right.
[08:20] <bekks> jasonmsp: Just set "set -xv" directly after the "#!/bin/bash" line in your script.
[08:21] <jasonmsp> bekks: thanks i figured it was something simple..
[08:21] <kapz> thanks bekks, I've checked the log and this is what I've found: Returning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Resume-Printer (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1670-Series) from localhost
[08:21] <kapz> what does it mean?
[08:22] <bekks> kapz: That your client (the pc that wants to print) isnt allowed to print on that printer queue
[08:22] <totesmuhgoats> is the mplayer version in oneiric not multi threaded?
[08:23] <kapz> bekks: Isn't allowed? but why? I shared the printer in cups....I don't understand.
[08:33] <banseljaj> Hi all. I have trouble recieveing files over bluetooth on my latop, it's 11.10
[08:33] <progre55> Hi guys. I have a problem since a couple of days with my encrypted home not mounting automatically on logon, and every time I boot up, I have to go to tty and manually "sudo mount /home". Any suggestions, please?
[08:33] <team> Hi, i dont understand the difference between initrd and initramfs ?
[08:35] <skurcey> wich firewall should i use, please? (ubuntu 11.10)
[08:35] <jetty> skurcey: ufw
 one is fs , other uses it
[08:36] <iceroot> skurcey: normally you dont need a firewall
[08:36] <steinesel> I am trying to configure my 11.04 32bit OS to function with my Garmin Oregon GPSr. I am getting this Error Message from Gebbabel: [ERROR] XSERIAL: Cannot open serial port '/media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX': No such file or directory
[08:36] <steinesel> [ERROR] Cannot open serial port '/media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX'
[08:36] <steinesel> GARMIN:Can't init /media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX
[08:36] <llutz_> team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initd
[08:37] <llutz_> team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[08:37] <dcUnit3d> i would really reallly reallly appreciate it if someone could help me
[08:38] <dcUnit3d> i hosed my ubuntu by canceling an apt-get update
[08:38] <llutz_> steinesel: how do you try to access it?
[08:38] <dcUnit3d> and i'm trying to repair it with a Live CD
[08:38] <banseljaj> dcUnit3d: Continue?
[08:38] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: it's going to take a fair ammount of effort to resolve that
[08:38] <dcUnit3d> i chrooted to my mounted partition
[08:39] <banseljaj> dcUnit3d: First explain "hosed"
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> but i'm getting "chould not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor"
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> thanks banseljaj
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> and ikonia
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> i was trying to update my xserver settings to include a second monitor
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> and i had already started to update some of my packages
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> i noticed that the progress bar was stuck for awhile
[08:40] <steinesel> I used the gebabbel as a gui for gpsbabel. pointed the device toward the mounted spot (which appeared on my desktop after plugging the device)
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> and i hit cancel and restarted
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> and then it just wouldn't restart
[08:40] <gensv> is there anyone else than me who has problems fetching the package lists from the security repos?
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> it got stuck on the screen with "ubuntu" and 5 dots
[08:40] <llutz_> steinesel: idk about oregon, older like vista hcx etc need to unload "garmin" kernel-module and being accessed through "USB:"
[08:41] <dcUnit3d> so i assumed that it was in the middle of updating and it didn't finish updating a critical package
[08:41] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: fixing these things from this point of view is normally a big ammount of effort and takes a reasonable level of experience
[08:41] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: you may want to consider backing up your data (while you have a livecd) and then just re-installing
[08:41] <steinesel> I have put the kernel module on the blacklist
[08:42] <ohmy> Hi, a have a big raw binary file, i know that it contains some png files inside and i'm looking for a way of extracting them, do anyone know a solution ?
[08:42] <gensv> oh sorry apparently i have problem fetching the package list for any site that is in the us
[08:42] <ikonia> ohmy: run the binary file
[08:42] <ikonia> ohmy: run "file" against it to confirm details
[08:42] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: the only issue i would have with that is that there was one night where i spent literally 12 hours getting my dual graphics card to work.
[08:43] <gensv> cannot ping us.archive.ubuntu.com either
[08:43] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: so backup your xorg.conf
[08:43] <steinesel> when looking as the dmesg output the gpsr is recognised as serial and not attached to tty0
[08:43] <ohmy> ikonia: By binary i meant a raw data file
[08:43] <llutz_> steinesel: if you mounted the oregon, can't you just use nautilus to access the files
[08:43] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: i think i would know how to get it to work now, but still.
[08:43] <ikonia> ohmy: "raw data file"???? what
[08:43] <ikonia> ohmy: run "file" against it and tell me what it says
[08:43] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: ok, so you can spend hours trying to fix your in flux system, or you could spend 30 minutes re-installing then 30 minutes applying your settings/restoring your data
[08:44] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: it was more than that, i have to install nvidia drivers, etc etc.
[08:44] <steinesel> yes I can but other applications (such as OCM) will not work without Gpsbabel fully functional :-(
[08:44] <gensv> but i still cannot connect to the ppas
[08:44] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: i have everything on a second partition
[08:44] <llutz_> steinesel: does "gpsbabel -w -i garmin -f usb: -o gpx -F geocaches.gpx" work on cli?
[08:44] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: great, so 30 minutes re-installing then
[08:45] <ohmy> ikonia: foo.db: data
[08:45] <ikonia> ohmy: is it a .db extension ?
[08:46] <steinesel> Nope I get: Found no Garmin USB devices. (although the garmin is mounted and I can go there with nautilus)
[08:46] <ohmy> ikonia: no no it doesn't have any extension, its a file i extracted from some old hard drive that crashes, when i read it with a hex editor i saw many PNG IEND tags that are specific to png
[08:46] <llutz_> steinesel: umount it, "sudo modprobe -r garmin" and try again
[08:47] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: ok thats what ill do.  thanks for the advice.
[08:47] <ikonia> ohmy: you need to know how it was created then
[08:47] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: I know it's not "cool" but it will give you a solid stable, working system in 30 minutes, rather than a working system that may have problems after 5 hours of trying to work it out
[08:47] <progre55> so can anyone help me out, please? with my home not being mounted automatically?
[08:47] <Zenger> Hi guys , I'm desperate, I've installed the nvidia driver and it gives me low resolution. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make the resolution 1024x764 but I need 1280x1024. Now the nvidia-settings shows me only 640 and 360 res.
[08:47] <llutz_> steinesel: gpsbabel does not work with mounted devices, it uses direct access (it did at least with older garmin-gpsr)
[08:48] <Zenger> How can I set a bigger resolution, maybe xrender.
[08:48] <ohmy> ikonia: i only know that my drive crashed, and i have lot lot of files i cannot chek how each of them was created, for sure it looks that that file containes lot of png images and wanted to know if per magic, any of the recovery tool can look inside data files for give file format and extract it
[08:48] <progre55> Zenger: did you try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[08:49] <ikonia> ohmy: to know how to extrat it you need to know how it was created
[08:49] <Zenger> progre55: It does nothing.
[08:49] <steinesel> llutz_ : I get: FATAL: Module garmin not found.
[08:49] <ikonia> ohmy: or at least how it's put together,
[08:49] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: that's true.  just a little frustrated.  not what i wanted to do tonight, was going to set up a git server on here.  just needed to change my monitor.  i really do appreciate it though.  thanks.
[08:49] <ohmy> ikonia: They are concatenate
[08:49] <paulus68> Ikonia: hi, little question is there in squid a possibility to check when a user is connected and that I can be notified by mail when a connection by this user is done?
[08:49] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: if you are going to use this for work, eg run a git server so you can do work, get a stable box
[08:49] <llutz_> steinesel:  "sudo modprobe -r garmin_gps"
[08:49] <ohmy> ikonia: each png after the other
[08:49] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: as in re-install to get a stable box
[08:50] <progre55> Zenger: or you could back up your xorg.conf and delete it, when you restart, it should be auto-generated.. but dont forget to back it up first
[08:50] <Zenger> I tried - gives 640 resolution
[08:50] <Erwin-C64> Hello, I want to download Ubuntu but am not sure what version to choose. I have an intel I7 and 16 GB ram, so I want a 64 bit OS, should I download AMD64?
[08:50] <ikonia> ohmy: you'll have to look at splitting them out, you'll need to work out start/end points for each then cut them out, if you can work out start/end points should be doable
[08:50] <llutz_> Erwin-C64: yes
[08:50] <ikonia> paulus68: not really very realistic, the best you can do is tail the access log, and when you see the "auth" of that user mail out
[08:51] <ohmy> ikonia: thank you
[08:51] <paulus68> ikonia: ok what would the tail command be?
[08:51] <steinesel> llutz_ : Just to confirm - after sudo modprobe -r garmin_gps I plug the gps back to system ?
[08:51] <bekks> paulus68: I told you "no" already ;)
[08:51] <Erwin-C64> llutz_: Thanks, why would they call it AMD when it runs on Intel also :P
[08:51] <bekks> paulus68: You have to grep the logs.
[08:51] <ikonia> paulus68: "tail" is the command
[08:51] <llutz_> steinesel: yes, and don't mount it
[08:51] <paulus68> bekks: I know what you said
[08:51] <steinesel> lluty_ I believe it will automount
[08:52] <llutz_> steinesel: then umount it
[08:52] <MarKsaitis> can I upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to that new one 12 which will be released this month?
[08:52] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Yes.
[08:53] <MarKsaitis> Like if I have openvz with ubuntu 11, i can then just upgrade when that new one will be released?
[08:53] <bekks> MarKsaitis: No.
[08:53] <MarKsaitis> hmz
[08:53] <MarKsaitis> why not
[08:54] <bekks> MarKsaitis: There are two Ubuntu 11 versions, 11.04 and 11.10 - you cant update 11.04 directly.
[08:54] <Zenger> Any ideeas
[08:54] <Zenger> ??
[08:54] <triptec> nouveau doesn't work, I don't get even the grub menu, anyone who knows what I can do?
[08:54] <bekks> MarKsaitis: And using an openvz, there are fair chances to break that vm :)
[08:54] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: imo openvz is using a shared kernel, so when you update you have to install the needed kernel-modules and the host needs the new kernel too
[08:54] <steinesel> llutz_ : done
[08:55] <MarKsaitis> what version of ubuntu do I need to have in order to upgrade directly to that ubuntu 12 precise I think it is isnt it?
[08:55] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: but that is just guessing and i am not n100% sure
[08:55] <banseljaj> Hi all. I have trouble recieveing files over bluetooth on my latop, it's 11.10. It is not connecting to my phone.
[08:55] <llutz_> steinesel: any erros from gpsbabel?
[08:55] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you can update every version to 12.04 but not directly, you have to update e.g. 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 12.04
[08:55] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: you can upgrade to 12.04 by either 11.10, or 10.04
[08:55] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: only from an older lts release you can upgrade directly
[08:56] <steinesel> llutz_ Yes: Found no Garmin USB devices.
[08:56] <mbroeker> banseljaj, do you have an older usb dongle?
[08:56] <MarKsaitis> how about ubuntu 11.04?
[08:56] <bekks> "No".
[08:56] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: what about it?
[08:56] <desomorphine> my former friend/bitter enemy is named stefano
[08:56] <bekks> MarKsaitis: You have to update it to 11.10 first.
[08:56] <llutz_> steinesel: try it as root, using sudo gpsbabel ... pls
[08:56] <desomorphine> he's gone
[08:56] <banseljaj> mbroeker: Not a dongle. Laptop has it integrated in Motherboard. It pairs fine with my cell.
[08:57] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: You'll have to update 11.04 to 11.10 first
[08:57] <MarKsaitis> hmz. I am confused now, very. I am just trying to buy myself an openvz plan which I could upgrade to ubuntu 12 LTS when it gets released
[08:57] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you can update every version to 12.04 but not directly, you have to update e.g. 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 12.04
[08:57] <MarKsaitis> ok
[08:57] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: And what seems to be the problem?
[08:57] <bekks> MarKsaitis: You cant update an openvz container the way you think you can.
[08:57] <steinesel> I checked the dmesg and this is what the system says after I plug the gps:[ 3948.140080] usb 2-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3948.273635] scsi7 : usb-storage 2-5:1.0
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.273848] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN Flash     1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[08:58] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: what iceroot said
[08:58] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: imo openvz is using a shared kernel, so when you update you have to install the needed kernel-modules and the host needs the new kernel too
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.274212] scsi 7:0:0:1: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN SD Card   1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.274939] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[08:58] <FloodBot1> steinesel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.275375] sd 7:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[08:59] <MarKsaitis> so according to iceroot, if I buy openvz from something like vmport.com, then I can not update to ubuntu 12 LTS server
[08:59] <steinesel> llutz_ : and no change when running gpsbabel with sudo same error message
[08:59] <Defusal_> hi everyone
[08:59] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Not that easy. You have to use the old kernel or get the openvz host updated to a new kernel too.
[08:59] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: openvz has which version?
[09:00] <Defusal_> can anyone tell me how i can get out of XFCE and back into ubuntu desktop without rebooting after using startx to get into XFCE?
[09:00] <MarKsaitis> is it bad to use older kernel in new ubuntu 12 os?
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: normally not
[09:01] <llutz_> steinesel: things seem to have changed with Oregons. sry no more ideas then. that worked since years for me with my old vistaHCX and some other devices.
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: but why you need 12.04?
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: just because it is new?
[09:01] <MarKsaitis> sure, I want to be on the edge
[09:01] <steinesel> llutz_ Thanx for the help anyway!!!
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: sorry, that is stupid
[09:01] <bekks> iceroot: ack.
[09:01] <llutz_> steinesel: check http://rfc1149.de/index.php#2010-10-31   and try again
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> it isnt, I want to have a new OS which will have support for the next 5 years
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> not so stupid is it
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> peace of mind
[09:02] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: first you did not say because of lts
[09:02] <llutz_> steinesel: good luck and happy caching:)
[09:02] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Then get a openvz hoster that supports 12.04 after it is released.
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> well, im only looking in to lts. anyways, thats what I want :)
[09:02] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: the reason lts is of course not stupid, just the "i want always the newest software"
[09:03] <MarKsaitis> sure, I want the newest up to date stable, why not
[09:03] <llutz_> "newest up to date stable" is a oxymoron
[09:03] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: hm up to date and stable... hm
[09:03] <iceroot> llutz_: :)
[09:04] <MarKsaitis> well, I mean latest stable :)
[09:04] <iceroot> :)
[09:04] <MarKsaitis> I dont want 2 years old stable or 3 years old stable, I want the newest stable, simply true
[09:04] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: why not 2 years old stable?
[09:05] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: because that release is STABLE
[09:05] <bekks> MarKsaitis: And in 4.5 years, it is still stable, since LTS.
[09:05] <iceroot> and if you want ultra-stable there is a nother distro
[09:05] <heavy> how can I install budus xdcc???
[09:05] <DropsOfSerenity> MarKsaitis, stable can also mean working together properly, as if you have all the latest packages they may not all work together corectly.
[09:05] <bekks> heavy: Whats that?
[09:05] <DropsOfSerenity> MarKsaitis, while they may be individually stable, as a whole they will not be
[09:05] <prototype> rocking hi all
[09:05] <MarKsaitis> I think the newest stable is better than 2 years old stable. Otherwise nobody would develop the newer one
[09:05] <heavy> BuDuScRiPt
[09:06] <heavy> a plugin for xchat
[09:06] <bekks> heavy: some warez thing, right?
[09:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: newer does not mean better
[09:06] <prototype> i want to use facebook massenger in command mode anyone can help me ?
[09:06] <iceroot> prototype: have a look at bitlbee + irssi
[09:06] <MarKsaitis> so whats the point of developing a stable which is worse
[09:06] <MarKsaitis> =))))
[09:06] <bekks> prototype: Facebook doesnt support anything other than their webbased chat.
[09:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: its just when 12.04 is coming out it will not be stable like 10.04
[09:07] <scientes> bekks, that is not true, they support a minimal XMPP
[09:07] <scientes> bekks, prototype facebook works with pidgin and empathy
[09:07] <scientes> with XMPP
[09:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: so i dont get why people want 12.04 directly
[09:07] <DropsOfSerenity> prototype, look into pidgins cli interface, i'm pretty sure it can interface with facebook
[09:08] <scientes> iceroot, it has alot more features and better software, (unfortunately not systemd or kmod)
[09:08] <MarKsaitis> :) I just want to get my hands on the new stuff and leave them there
[09:08] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: the software in 12.04 is at the moment not so good tested like the one from 10.04
[09:08] <DropsOfSerenity> prototype, it's name is finch
[09:08] <iceroot> scientes: better software?
[09:08] <bekks> more features?
[09:08] <bekks> Did they invent the wheel again? :)
[09:08] <siavashserver> simplified
[09:08] <scientes> well, alot of stuff is a moving target, 3.2 kernel supports alot more hardware
[09:09] <iceroot> less features because padevchooser is missing :(
[09:09] <scientes> iceroot, i think you can still do that with pulseaudio
[09:09] <bekks> scientes: A lot more hardware a home user never ever even knows about ;)
[09:09] <iceroot> scientes: yes
[09:09] <iceroot> scientes: but not that easy
[09:09] <scientes> bekks, not it terms of progress with radeon and nouveau driver
[09:09] <scientes> and also alot of other stuff
[09:10] <iceroot> scientes: and if i am correct a newer kernel was backported to 10.04
[09:10] <scientes> plenty of hardware progress
[09:10]  * scientes promotes newer kernels
[09:10] <mkultra_> yo yo yo
[09:10]  * scientes is using 12.04 and doing great
[09:10] <iceroot> i dont see a single reason to use 12.04 on a server in 1 month
[09:10] <mkultra_> metoo
[09:10] <scientes> iceroot, ubuntu isn't that great for servers
[09:10] <iceroot> scientes: that is the next part
[09:11] <scientes> cause universe is always out of date, esp in the LTS releases
[09:11] <scientes> buggy and security-prone to, compared to debian stable
[09:11] <iceroot> yes, debian stable is imo the best choice for a debian(based) system for a server
[09:11] <mkultra_> gentoo cluster style
[09:12] <scientes> ugggggh, binary packages is WAY better
[09:12] <mkultra_> lol
[09:12] <mkultra_> source is gangster dog
[09:12] <scientes> dont get me wrong, i do alot of compilation
[09:12] <scientes> but binary packages is still the way to go
[09:12] <mkultra_> yeah source takes forever lol
[09:12] <DropsOfSerenity> I would use debian for servers, more stable, don't need the latest packages.
[09:13] <mkultra_> but like in a small office setting beowolf a bunch of pcs and make em all compile at the same time
[09:14] <Defusal_> if anyone can tell me how to start ubuntu-desktop gnome from terminal, please let me know
[09:14] <scientes> its called distcc Mkaysi
[09:14] <scientes> * mkultra_
[09:14] <mkultra_> should be startx defusal
[09:14] <bekks> mkultra_: beowulf is pretty dead - use dicc or icecream instead. :)
[09:14] <mkultra_> dead u say?
[09:14] <scientes> Defusal_, /etc/init.d/*dm restart
[09:14] <bekks> *distcc
[09:14] <scientes> Defusal_, and then if you want apps, you have to do DESKTOP=:0 gnome-terminal
[09:14] <Defusal_> mkultra, that starts XFCE which has no sound
[09:14] <bekks> mkultra_: Dead as in "He's dead, Jim. Just let him go."
[09:14] <iceroot> Defusal_: sudo service lightdm start
[09:14] <iceroot> Defusal_: sudo service gdm start
[09:14] <DropsOfSerenity> Defusal_, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[09:15] <iceroot> Defusal_: depending on your ubuntu version
[09:15] <iceroot> !upstart | DropsOfSerenity
[09:15] <scientes> !systemd
[09:15] <DropsOfSerenity> iceroot, ah yes forgot about that, thanks
[09:15] <scientes> upstart is obsolete
[09:15] <iceroot> scientes: not in ubuntu
[09:16] <scientes> iceroot, https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/systemd
[09:16] <heavy>  /server irc.openjoke.org
[09:16] <iceroot> scientes: yes, not default in ubuntu
[09:16] <scientes> iceroot, but Martin Pitt is a Canonical emplyee
[09:17] <iceroot> scientes: and?
[09:17] <scientes> so, they are finially catching up with debian :)
[09:17] <bekks> No.
[09:17] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:17] <bekks> you think they are just because _one_ employee ha a private PPA? Odd.
[09:17] <iceroot> scientes: as i said default is upstart and we are in #ubuntu and only teach supported things
[09:18] <Defusal_> "sudo service gdm start" almost works
[09:18] <iceroot> scientes: we have wayland in 12.04 too. what do you think? it is now the default? of course not
[09:18] <scientes> we support all sort of unsupported stuff, its about solving problems
[09:18] <Defusal_> but it says that its in low graphics mode, wont let me reconfigure and seems to wait forever for teh display to restart
[09:18] <iceroot> scientes: and ppas are even mor unofficial
[09:18] <Defusal_> any ideas?
[09:18] <iceroot> scientes: we support here only supported stuff
[09:19] <scientes> Defusal_, paste the output of "lspci" on the command line
[09:19] <scientes> Defusal_, you could also try service gdm stop
[09:19] <scientes> and then after that is done service gdm start
[09:20] <scientes> which might work better
[09:20] <Defusal_> scientes, how can i paste something?
[09:20] <bekks> !paste
[09:20] <Defusal_> i have to switch my keyboards usb cable just to be able to type on the machine
[09:20] <scientes> Defusal_, which one doesn't work, PS/2 or USB?
[09:20] <Defusal_> scientes, stop says unknown instance
[09:21] <scientes> Defusal_, and do you see anything interesting in "dmesg"?
[09:21] <Defusal_> scientes, i usually use vnc for all access to the machine
[09:21] <scientes> Defusal_, also !ssh -X
[09:21] <scientes> !Xforwarding
[09:21] <Defusal_> i just need xubuntu to work again, sigh
[09:21] <scientes> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X-Forwarding <--reasonable explaination of x forwarding
[09:22] <scientes> Defusal_, usually /etc/init.d/*dm restart works, for me
[09:22] <Defusal_> scientes, "dmesg" floods my screen, how am i supposed to see anything?
[09:22] <scientes> the low graphics might mean that you are using a propritary driver Defusal_ and maybe a restart will work
[09:22] <jpds> scientes: You could use xpra instead.
[09:22] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:22] <Defusal_> so screwed
[09:23] <Defusal_> i would be happy to just get it working in low graphics mode
[09:23] <Defusal_> any idea how to do that?
[09:23] <Defusal_> i don't care how it looks, i need sound working
[09:23] <scientes> jpds, i dont want persistance
[09:23] <scientes> jpds, X apps and persistance does not meet in a ven diagram of my computing
[09:24] <lpe> afternoon gents, anyone seen this before and knows how to solve it? http://hastebin.com/tayitotane.php
[09:24] <Guest61815> Hi, is there a way to run a script when the charger is unplugged?
[09:24] <scientes> Defusal_, then just click the "run in low graphics mode this time"
[09:24] <Defusal_> starting gdm and saying run in low graphics just sits on "Stand by one minute while display restarts"
[09:24] <Defusal_> scientes ^
[09:24] <scientes> ahh
[09:24] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:25]  * scientes hasn't had that error since, like, 9.04
[09:25] <Defusal_> ffs
[09:25] <scientes> usually meant, (for me) that i needed to restart for dkms to make nvidia work again
[09:25] <Defusal_> i can't waste this amount of time :(
[09:25] <scientes> Defusal_, did you try rebooting?
[09:25] <Defusal_> scientes, graphics is intel
[09:25] <Defusal_> rebooting will waste far more time
[09:26] <scientes> oh ok, that should jsut work
[09:26] <Defusal_> that is the issue
[09:26] <mkultra_> gksu jockey-gtk didnt install nvidia right?
[09:26] <scientes> Defusal_, what version?
[09:26] <scientes> (of ubuntu)
[09:27] <Defusal_> scientes: 10.10
[09:28] <sudobeep> salve a tutti!
[09:28] <bekks> !it
[09:28] <Onixs>  si
[09:28] <Defusal_> ***************
[09:28] <Defusal_> thanks for trying anyway scientes
[09:28] <sudobeep> hi to all
[09:29] <Defusal_> im completely screwed
[09:29] <Defusal_> looks like theres no quick fix
[09:29] <scientes> Defusal_, what i would do at that point would be install an up to date kernel
[09:29] <scientes> and maybe !xorg-edgers
[09:29] <scientes> !xorg-edgers
[09:29] <Defusal_> scientes, and that would help me start xubuntu without rebooting?
[09:29] <Defusal_> i think not
[09:29] <scientes> but that is a risky proposition, considering that its kinda old
[09:29] <scientes> no that would def require reboot
[09:30] <scientes> Defusal_, oh, you can just do DESKTOP=:0 application
[09:30] <Simmons> Hello, can someone tell how to replace linux mint with ubuntu? I have also dualboot with win7
[09:30] <scientes> like DESKTOP=:0 gnome-shell
[09:30] <scientes> Defusal_, when you have the "wait till i restart" going
[09:30] <scientes> run metacity to get control over windows
[09:30] <Defusal_> what?
[09:30] <Defusal_> i don't follow
[09:31] <Defusal_> when you have the "wait till i restart" going
[09:31] <scientes> ok, from the terminal on the tty
[09:31] <Defusal_> what wait till restart?
[09:31] <scientes> when it says "wait til i reastart", then hit ctrl-alt-f1
[09:31] <scientes> and then log in
[09:31] <scientes> and then do "DESKTOP=:0 gnome-terminal"
[09:31] <scientes> then do ctrl-alt-f7
[09:31] <scientes> and type in "metacity --replace & "
[09:32] <scientes> and then you can launch whatever the xubuntu menu is, etc
[09:32] <mkultra_> just install tilda, and synaptic
[09:32] <Defusal_> scientes, i don't have a gnome-terminal
[09:32] <Defusal_> this is xubuntu
[09:32] <scientes> Defusal_, then use xterm
[09:32] <mkultra_> would be xfce4-terminal
[09:32] <scientes> or xterm...
[09:32] <mkultra_> xterm blows lol
[09:33] <scientes> it also works
[09:33] <Defusal_> xfce4-terminal is not installed
[09:33] <mkultra_> lxterms good though
[09:33] <Simmons> can someone tell how to replace linux mint with ubuntu? I have also dualboot with win7
[09:33] <Defusal_> xterm says DISPLAY is not set
[09:33] <mkultra_> install a terminal lol
[09:33] <Defusal_> :((
[09:33] <scientes> Defusal_, "DISPLAY=:0 xterm"
[09:33] <mkultra_> sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal
[09:33] <scientes> all on one line Defusal_
[09:33] <Defusal_> mkultra_, i just need to get xubuntu desktop open
[09:33] <Defusal_> scientes, you already said that
[09:33] <Defusal_> it does not work
[09:33] <prototype> thanks freinds for finch
[09:33] <Defusal_> like i just told you
[09:33] <mkultra_> startxfce4
[09:33] <Defusal_> nothing works :(
[09:33] <mkultra_> ?
[09:33] <scientes> well if you type that DISPLAY is set
[09:34] <Defusal_> mkultra_, that is the one thing i do NOT want to do
[09:34] <Defusal_> i need sound
[09:34] <Amdpc> Simmons : rrinstall mint on ubu tu partition.
[09:34] <Defusal_> xubuntu has sound, xfce does not
[09:34] <scientes> Defusal_, ????that doesn't do anything about sound
[09:34] <__sjh> loha, using 10.04, trying to change locale have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale, but after running update-locale lang=en_GB.UTF-8, relogged, then run locale, now i see LANG= .... and nothing else, any ideas?
[09:34] <Defusal_> scientes, xubuntu was working with sound before
[09:34] <scientes> Defusal_, to get sound manually do "pulseaudio --daemonize"
[09:34] <Defusal_> when i used startx, it started xfce instead
[09:34] <Defusal_> with no sound
[09:34] <bekks> Defusal_: You have far more severe problems rather than "no sound", dont you?
[09:35] <scientes> but yeah, it sounds like the whole system is borked, and you should backup and reinstall with 11.10 or 12.04
[09:35] <Defusal_> bekks, sound is my only requirement at this stage
[09:35] <Defusal_> scientes, it is a live boot from a usb drive.
[09:35] <Simmons> Amdpc I need to choose something else? and what? and I have widnows partitons and mint partition I need to format mint partition?
[09:35] <Defusal_> i just need sound working
[09:35] <scientes> oh geeze, then reformat it, and use a more recent version
[09:36] <Defusal_> which was working when xubuntu desktop was wroking
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, as i said, pulseaudio --daemonize
[09:36] <bekks> Defusal_: Minutes ago it was the wrong desktop environment...
[09:36] <Defusal_> scientes, what part are you not following
[09:36] <scientes> that will launch sound Defusal_
[09:36] <Defusal_> i can't even reboot, that would take too long to start everything up again
[09:36] <Defusal_> and get everything configured
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, xfce != sound
[09:36] <Defusal_> i just need it working
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, they are totally differn't things
[09:36] <Defusal_> scientes, i told you
[09:36] <Defusal_> xubuntu had sound
[09:36] <Defusal_> it was working
[09:36] <FloodBot1> Defusal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, yeah i read what you said, but its not useful
[09:37] <fidel> Defusal_: could you resummarize your entire problem again?
[09:37] <scientes> Defusal_, because it doesn't describe what is actually happening at the software level, its just unreliable heresay at this point
[09:37] <fidel> as in - giving a compact but complete summary
[09:37] <scientes> good idea
[09:37] <Defusal_> scientes, does pulse audio only work when a xserver is running?
[09:37] <Defusal_> because it fails to start from tty
[09:37] <scientes> Defusal_, pulse can work without any x at all
[09:38] <Defusal_> well it fails
[09:38] <scientes> Defusal_, it might already be running
[09:38] <scientes> Defusal_, no wait, it might require dbus to be running
[09:38] <scientes> Defusal_, which generally is only launched with x11
[09:38] <bekks> dbus does not need X itself.
[09:38] <scientes> bekks, true
[09:39] <Defusal_> fidel, xubuntu was running, it got killed, i need sound for a critical application to be able to run, using startx starts xfce instead of xubuntu desktop with no sound, using service start gdm says low graphics and hangs waiting for the xserver to start
[09:39] <scientes> now, if ubuntu was using systemd dbus might be able to launch itsself (the session bus that is ) right?
[09:39] <__sjh> ok.... os, is there another channel for ubuntu server discussion?
[09:39] <scientes> Defusal_, are you running as root by chance?
[09:39] <bekks> scientes: Ubuntu does not use systemd. Done.
[09:39] <Defusal_> scientes, no
[09:40] <llutz_> __sjh: #ubuntu-server
[09:40] <Defusal_> i'll try start xfce and then pulseaudio
[09:40] <scientes> Defusal_, yes try that
[09:40] <scientes> and if you can try to start pulseaudio from a terminal in X
[09:40] <__sjh> llutz_, thanks, i'll go try over there ;)
[09:40] <scientes> cause you get differn't environment variables there
[09:41] <Defusal_> scientes, still says "Daemon startup failed"
[09:41] <Defusal_> f***
[09:41] <scientes> Defusal_, ps aux | grep pulse
[09:41] <scientes> it could already be running
[09:42] <Defusal_> scientes: it is not
[09:42] <scientes> if you avoid the --daemonize option it might give better output
[09:42] <Thermoelectric> Question: Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 from a hard drive, it boots to the installer, but stalls when it can't find the cdrom drive. Any ideas?
[09:43] <Defusal_> scientes: it cant connect to dbus socket
[09:43] <Defusal_> any ideas? :/
[09:43] <scientes> Thermoelectric, are you using unetbootin?
[09:43] <brtrnd> can somebody help me troubleshoot a network issue on oneiric? after ubuntu install it worked but while configuring vnc i must have broken it. now the computer doesnt have network
[09:43] <Defusal_> how can i start dbus?
[09:44] <Thermoelectric> scientes, Unetbootin didn't want to install to this hard drive, so I used the dd method instead.
[09:44] <scientes> Defusal_, try dbus-daemon --session
[09:44] <brtrnd> it's wireless,it shows enabled but cant find any networks
[09:44] <scientes> Defusal_, however i have never really understood dbus that much
[09:45] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:45] <Defusal_> this is hopeless
[09:45] <bekks> brtrnd: vnc does not touch the network configuration at all.
[09:45] <scientes> Thermoelectric, dd if=/the/iso of=/dev/sdLETTER (no number) ?
[09:45] <Defusal_> wasted an hour already
[09:45] <scientes> Thermoelectric, you wont be able to install from the same drive its booting off of with that
[09:45] <Defusal_> i may as well restart and start reconfiguring everything again
[09:45] <brtrnd> bekks thats what i supposed but after that my network connection is gone
[09:46] <Defusal_> im gonna be bankrupted by this :(
[09:46] <Thermoelectric> scientes, Yep, that. The machine boots to the installer and everything, just hangs at the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" part.
[09:46] <bekks> Thermoelectric: Do you want to install the iso to an USB stick or to an harddrive?
[09:46] <Defusal_> thanks for trying anyway scientes
[09:46] <brtrnd> iwconfig says "no wireless extension" and ifconfig doesn't say anything about an ip adress
[09:46] <Thermoelectric> scientes, I've got a separate hard drive to install it on.
[09:46] <scientes> Thermoelectric, so this is the alternate? you can skip that step
[09:46] <scientes> it just will elevate into the "expert mode"
[09:47] <Thermoelectric> Yeah, it's the alternate, didn't see the other one. What do I hit to skip it?
[09:47] <scientes> ho wait i guess you cant really skip that one
[09:47] <bekks> Thermoelectric: Are you trying to run the installer from an USB stick or from a live cd?
[09:47] <Thermoelectric> bekks, From a hard drive.
[09:47] <scientes> Thermoelectric, try it again with the mini.iso, which boots totally into ram, or use the Livecd version
[09:47] <Thermoelectric> Okay, thanks.
[09:47] <bekks> Thermoelectric: That wont work most likely. Not using the dd approach.
[09:47] <allenyk> test
[09:48] <allenyk> :test
[09:48] <scientes> Thermoelectric, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ precise amd64: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:48] <bekks> allenyk: You missed.
[09:49] <Thermoelectric> Cheers scientes
[09:50] <Defusal_> scientes, how can i test sound?
[09:52] <scientes> Defusal_, alsamixer might be a good sanity check
[09:53] <scientes> Defusal_, otherwise, well just try to use it, use a music player or something
[09:53] <Petskull> Hey- I want to make a 'shortcut' on my desktop to a codeblocks project within a deeply ordered hierarchy.  I want it to open the file from it's current location, rather than from the Desktop, because it can't find the program files otherwise.  Any ideas?
[09:53] <Foggalong> Hello
[09:53] <Defusal_> scientes, ok thanks
[09:53] <scientes> Peterman, #!/bin/sh; cd /the/directory; xdg-open file; exit 0;
[09:53] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Are you here?
[09:53] <Defusal_> scientes, i dunno what you were trying to tell me about ssh -X earlier
[09:54] <Defusal_> but i use TurboVNC as it has far better performance than any other linux remote desktop client i have seen
[09:54] <scientes> Defusal_, that allows you to use graphical apps from another computer, but in a way that is differn't than VNC
[09:55] <Defusal_> TurboVNC works great, especially over Gbps LAN
[09:55] <scientes> Defusal_, and more integrated, as it is application-level, rather than whole-desktop
[09:55] <scientes> and VNC is a HORRIBLE protocol
[09:55] <Defusal_> scientes, options are limited when you want to use windows as a client
[09:55] <Defusal_> but nothing comes close to TurboVNC in performance
[09:56] <scientes> Defusal_, peopl actually use ssh -X on windows, with xming and pidgin
[09:56] <Defusal_> i have tried many different protocols over the years
[09:56]  * scientes hasn't done that
[09:56] <scientes> *xming and putty
[09:56] <Petskull> Anybody?
[09:56] <bobweaver> Petskull,  would this help ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available
[09:56] <scientes> Petskull, i gave you an answer
[09:56] <scientes> ahh Petskull <scientes> Peterman, #!/bin/sh; cd /the/directory; xdg-open file; exit 0;
[09:56]  * Petskull scrolls up
[09:57] <Petskull> yeah, that's what I thought.  I was just wondering if there was something simpler natively- thanks, man.
[09:57] <scientes> Peterman, or gnome-open for the equivilent of double-clicking with nautilus
[09:57] <scientes> but xdg-open is more portable
[09:57] <scientes> as it will work in xfce and kde, etc
[09:58] <scientes> Peterman, well, .desktop files is the preferred way of doing it, .....
[09:58] <Petskull> thanks, bobweaver
[09:58] <scientes> cause that supports internationalization Petskull
[09:59] <Petskull> yeah, I just didn't want a whole thing that felt like hacking up da mainframe.  I was just wondering if there was something like "middle-click drag from the folder to the desktop" or something
[09:59] <bobweaver> np Petskull
[09:59] <Petskull> something to be done on the fly
[10:00] <Taek> I am a land-shark with wifi-irc in a hospital.
[10:00] <scientes> Petskull, you could scour this: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[10:00] <bobweaver> yeah Just add like them lines into /usr/share/applications/codeblock   so that it opens where you want it to
[10:01] <scientes> as it does support internationalization which is cool
[10:01] <Bhaumik> hello
[10:01] <Taek> Hola
[10:01] <Petskull> hmm
[10:01] <Bhaumik> i want to create repository server for only updates
[10:01] <Bhaumik> any 1 can help me?
[10:02] <brtrnd> how can i troubleshoot network issues? i can't connect ubuntu to my wireless (probably a wrong command while configuring vino)
[10:02] <bekks> brtrnd: vino does not change the network configuration at all.
[10:02] <bekks> brtrnd: You have to ensure that your network is working at all.
[10:03] <Taek> Bhaumik why?
[10:03] <brtrnd> the network is working, the windows i have is connected to the wireless the same way
[10:03] <bekks> brtrnd: Windows is out of interest. Does your Ubuntu box has a working network connection using wifi?
[10:03] <scientes> Petskull, gedit /usr/bin/firefox
[10:04] <Bhaumik> Taek, because we dont want to use whole netwrok access
[10:04] <scientes> Petskull, that type of "hacking up the mainframe" is pretty common
[10:04] <brtrnd> bekks i think not: the menu item shows the checked option "activate network" but does not show any wirelss network
[10:04] <Xabster> I have made a keyboard shortcut with ctrl+alt+e to open Files. When I do it opens a new un-showable window that says "Opening xabster..." in processbar and also my home directory in nautilus - it takes atleast 10 seconds for the first window to dissappear and my mouse cursor is "loading" meanwhile - it's annoying but not a problem but I'd like a fix - anyone?
[10:04] <Bhaumik> Taek, we are using Proxy server thats why..
[10:04] <Taek> Dont think that is possible
[10:04] <BlueDongleKey> is there some source code that I could check out regarding linux memory management?
[10:05] <bekks> BlueDongleKey: The kernel has it :)
[10:05] <Taek> :D
[10:06] <Taek> Not kewl to be here on android lol
[10:06] <BlueDongleKey> bekks: would kernel.org be the place to download it?
[10:06] <scientes> BlueDongleKey, git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
[10:06] <bekks> BlueDongleKey: you could just use apt-get source
[10:07] <bekks> scientes: Unhelpful to download 1.6GB git, instead of a few MB tarball.
[10:07] <Taek> Agreed, bekks.
[10:08] <scientes> ok, start with apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r` BlueDongleKey
[10:08] <BlueDongleKey> thanks friends :)
[10:08] <scientes> BlueDongleKey, or the kernel.org xz tarballs
[10:09] <bekks> or the gz or bz2 tarballs.
[10:09] <scientes> yuck, go with xz
[10:09] <scientes> way fater
[10:09] <scientes> *faster
[10:10] <bekks> Faster than your git approach. :)
[10:10] <brtrnd> bekks it does work with a cable, so i probably disabled the wireless. is there some way to reset it to defaults?
[10:10] <Taek> On fast enough connections, it wont matter
[10:10] <alusion> Hello I was wondering if compiz has any complaints with the gnome 3 shell
[10:10] <bekks> brtrnd: No. Just configure what you need.
[10:10] <Bhaumik> is there any possibility to create repository using UBUNTU DVD?
[10:11] <scientes> bekks, yeah, but git has so many other benifits :P
[10:11] <Taek> Technucally the dvd is a local repo
[10:11] <Bhaumik> i already tried "apt-cdrom" command
[10:11] <bekks> scientes: Which arent important at this point.
[10:11] <scientes> bekks, the FIRST thing i almost always do with a source tree is git init; git commit -a -m init
[10:12] <paulus68> how can I let tail search for words in a logfile?
[10:12] <Bhaumik> Taek, i know that but how can i access this repository for internal use
[10:12] <bekks> scientes: Which is unhelpful and unnecessary at this point.
[10:12] <bekks> Just compare 1.6GB and ~70MB downloadsize.
[10:13] <Taek> Not surw how to access the dvd as repo
[10:14] <scientes> bekks, even 70MB is huge compared to just browsing the cgit or github ....
[10:14] <Taek> Id check for you, hut i am on my cellphone
[10:14] <Bhaumik> any one knows how to access Ubuntu DVD as a repository?
[10:14] <brtrnd> bekks should i see a network called wlan0 if i do ifconfig? (only  have eth0 and lo)
[10:14] <bekks> scientes: You have to pull 1.6GB of data for the kernel.org git repo. So your approach isnt the best thing in the world to just get the sources.
[10:15] <bekks> brtrnd: Not necessarily. USe a pastebin to provide the output of sudo ifconfig -a
[10:15] <Bhaumik> Taek, thanks
[10:15] <Taek> Brtrnd do - ifup wlan0
[10:15] <scientes> bekks, there almost should be an option to pull starting from a specific signed tag
[10:16] <bekks> Taek: No. First check, wether there is a wlan0 at all.
[10:16] <bekks> Taek: It may be named differently.
[10:16] <bekks> Or it may not exist.
[10:16]  * scientes thinks tags also sign the contents independant of the history, is not sure
[10:16] <Taek> Btw for tail in log files, tail -n 20 ¦ grep word
[10:16] <scientes> with a -f too
[10:16] <scientes> is nice
[10:16] <brtrnd> bekks http://pastebin.com/xX76NS61
[10:17] <brtrnd> (its a spanish pc)
[10:17] <bekks> Taek: Thats nonsense too, if "word" is not in the last 20 lines.
[10:17] <Taek> Just a sample hahaha
[10:18] <Taek> Bekks i am on mobile, so i try to keep responces to a short and quick one
[10:18] <Bragex9> my system has suddenly started to act strange..... software such as firefox, mediaplayer etc etc can suddenly just shut down. Then I have to restart the software again. And after a few minutes the same happens again.... any idea what might cause the problem?
[10:18] <jacekowski> hi
[10:19] <bekks> brtrnd: You dont have a wlan interface at all. You have to set it up first.
[10:19] <jacekowski> i've got a laptop with windows on it and no cd/memory stick/any other kind of storage at hand
[10:19] <brtrnd> bekks any guide/link on doing that?
[10:19] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, try running those programs from the terminal when just using them normally, and then see what the terminal out is when it crashes, alternatively you can look for logs for those specific programs
[10:19] <jacekowski> is there any way of installing ubuntu onto separate partition
[10:19] <jacekowski> (not using wubi and it's loop partition)
[10:19] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_crashes
[10:20] <Taek> Bragex9 lack of sleep can cause that. Jk
[10:20] <paulus68> with grep what is the command to show multiple words for example I want to search in a file for the word user and denied what would the syntax be?
[10:20] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, check out the Crash reports section of that link
[10:20] <Bragex9> ok. thanks. I will try that
[10:20] <bekks> brtrnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/
[10:20] <Taek> Man grep
[10:21] <bekks> paulus68: "man grep" :) or egrep - grep "this|that" filename
[10:21] <Taek> !grep
[10:21] <aabed> where can i ask about the packages that will be released with 12.04
[10:22] <d[-_-]b> Hello, i'm wondering if there are any common issues in regards to NIC speeds are slow in 11.10(Wired) National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller 30kb/s then spikes up 20kb's back down maybe reach 100kb/s after a while of this up and down cycle
[10:23] <Taek> Tail -n 100 ¦ grep -v grep ¦ egrep n grep "this¦that" filename
[10:23] <Taek> Damn messed it up lol
[10:26] <paulus68> bekks: thanks
[10:26] <Hiob10hiob> hi, i have a mbp 5,5 and it gets so hot on ubuntu, how can i fix this?
[10:26] <bekks> Taek: USeless use of tail, grep and egrep ;)
[10:27] <bekks> Hiob10hiob: Whats an "mbp 5,5"?
[10:27] <Hiob10hiob> mac book pro 13" late 2009
[10:27] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, had a macbook pro 5,5 theres not much you can do, the best is get cpufreq-indicator and change your cpu to a powersaving sceme.
[10:27] <paulus68> Taek: the purpose is that I can read through the complete access.log and that I get the info about a given user with the websites that he tried to access
[10:27] <Arnold> Hello everyone. Which is the channel where I can discuss about compiling a certain package?
[10:27] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, it's just a hot machine by nature
[10:28] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, also consider external cooling.
[10:28] <Taek> If you know the ip, just search that
[10:28] <Hiob10hiob> but in mac os x its not that hot
[10:29] <Taek> Unless the access log isnt logging the ips
[10:30] <paulus68> Taek: just the websites in the file
[10:31] <Taek> I would use sed instead
[10:31] <jasonfe> hi
[10:32] <jasonfe> sorry, but how to mount crypted folder from extern hdd in ubuntu 11.10?!?folder is crypted with ecryptfs
[10:32] <jasonfe> tnx :)
[10:32] <paulus68> Taek you getting me warm to use grep and now you are going to sed :p not afraid to learn but this old chap needs a break here lol so throw it at me what would the command be when I need to have all the entries that contains user and denied
[10:33] <Taek> Just a sec then paulus68
[10:33] <paulus68> Taek: thx
[10:34] <moondiamond> Hiob10hiob: I always assumed that the machine ran hotter because the drivers/settings/whatever were not optimally set for the macbook like they would be in os x, but as people say YMMV
[10:34] <bekks> paulus68: What do you want to do?
[10:35] <Hiob10hiob> moondiamond: you must be right, i think i have to replace it ;)
[10:35] <paulus68> bekks: from the given access.log I want to get the username and the word denied in order to know what type of website this user wanted to access without my permission
[10:36] <bekks> paulus68: So why do you want sed then?
[10:36] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, system76.com :P
[10:36] <Taek> Paulus68: sed 's/\(hostname <IP_ADDRESS>\)/\hostname <IP_ADDRESS>/g' | grep hostname
[10:36] <Hiob10hiob> can i order it in germany?
[10:36] <Taek> Hostname and ip can be changef
[10:36] <bekks> paulus68: Provide a single line of your access.log and provide the wanted output you want to have
[10:36] <paulus68> bekks: Teak was proposing this to me I am trying to get used to the grep command
[10:36] <paulus68> bekks: ok hold on
[10:37] <bobweaver> Hello there does anyone know how to get JUST the ipadderss from the terminal ?
[10:37] <bekks> bobweaver: ifconfig and grep and awk.
[10:37] <bekks> Or just ifconfig and awk
[10:37] <Taek> Ifconfig eth0 ¦ grep ipaddress
[10:38] <bobweaver> what if user is not on eth0 ?
[10:38] <bekks> bobweaver: Then replace eth0
[10:38] <Taek> Change it according
[10:38] <bobweaver> but whta if this is a script ?
[10:38] <Taek> Then use awk
[10:38] <bobweaver> do a if statement ?
[10:38] <bekks> No if needed.
[10:39] <Taek> Are yoy doing a oerl script?
[10:39] <Taek> Perl that is
[10:39] <bobweaver> no bash
[10:40] <Taek> Something like this
[10:40] <paulus68><PHONE_NUMBER>.579   5436 <IP_ADDRESS> TCP_MISS/200 2402 CONNECT ebankingsupport.ibs6.isabel.be:443 user DIRECT/<IP_ADDRESS> -
[10:40] <paulus68><PHONE_NUMBER>.736      0 <IP_ADDRESS> TCP_DENIED/407 1699 GET http://www.isabel.eu/login6/nl-BE/ - NONE/- text/html
[10:40] <Taek> $ip=ifconfig wlan0 ¦ grep ipaddress
[10:40] <Taek> Print $ip
[10:41] <bekks> Taek: Thats not bash.
[10:41] <Taek> Your right
[10:41] <paulus68> bekks: where before the DIRECT the username is mentioned
[10:41] <Taek> My bad
[10:41] <Taek> Letting php get the better of me
[10:42] <Taek> Or perl for that matter
[10:42] <bobweaver> ok so I have this zpanel@zpanel:~/ZpanelX/etc/build/config_packs/ubuntu_11_10$ ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | grep -v <IP_ADDRESS>| head -n 1|
[10:42] <bobweaver> but how to cut to a delimiter of :
[10:42] <bekks> bobweaver: By using "tr".
[10:42] <bobweaver> sorry   ::   ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | grep -v <IP_ADDRESS>| head -n 1|
[10:42] <slashdot> hemm
[10:42] <Taek> Remove -v
[10:43] <Taek> Nvm
[10:43] <Taek> Keep that
[10:43] <b1nr> bobweaver: probably you  should check these in #bash instead of #ubuntu
[10:43] <bobweaver> will do
[10:43] <bobweaver> thanks everyone !
[10:43] <Taek> Should i install ubuntu to my mobile.. hmm
[10:44] <Ben64> my ubuntu 10.04 system randomly started having some desktop effects (window shadows, weird effect on taskbar launcher click), how can i disable them?
[10:44] <bekks> bobweaver: ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'|grep -v "^127"
[10:44] <bekks> bobweaver: ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'
[10:45] <lpe> anyone seen this before? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4645273#post4645273
[10:46] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, If I remember correctly, System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> visual effects -> none
[10:46] <paulus68> bekks: me watching and learning :)
[10:46] <Ben64> DropsOfSerenity: that's already off
[10:46] <bobweaver> bekks,  ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'| grep -v <IP_ADDRESS> |  head -n 1
[10:46] <bobweaver> :>)
[10:47] <io> !effects > Ben64
[10:47] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:47] <io> aLeSD: hi
[10:47] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, you can install compizsettingsmanager, ccsm if I remember, and check the settings there.
[10:47] <aLeSD> my system goes very laggy sometimes
[10:47] <Ben64> io, DropsOfSerenity: compiz isn't running
[10:47] <bekks> bobweaver: you dont need the head -n 1
[10:47] <aLeSD> mainly when I am using eclipse
[10:47] <io> Ben64: what version of Ubuntu?
[10:47] <bekks> bobweaver: use this: ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'|grep -v "^127"
[10:47] <Ben64> 10.04
[10:47] <paulus68> bekks: any sugestions concerning my little problem ;)
[10:47] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, you said you are getting compiz effects though?
[10:47] <Taek> Eclipes = java = horrid
[10:48] <io> Ben64: what environment are you using, then?
[10:48] <Ben64> some kind of effects, but not compiz
[10:48] <aLeSD> does ubuntu use officila sun jdk ?
[10:48] <Ben64> normal gnome
[10:48] <io> !java | aLeSD
[10:48] <bobweaver> bekks,  I am using as a out varible like     ipadress=$( ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'| grep -v <IP_ADDRESS> |  head -n 1)      so it have to be just the nip no other nothing
[10:48] <aLeSD> thanks io
[10:48] <Ben64> ok, i found the problem... somehow "compositing manager" got checked in gconf-editor
[10:48] <bekks> bobweaver: Read what I wrote to times to you.
[10:49] <Ben64> i guess metacity has a compositor
[10:49] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, it's probably in the startup programs, check in there
[10:49] <Taek> +Karma¦bekks
[10:49] <io> aLeSD: no problem
[10:50] <Taek> Dang hospital connection
[10:50] <aLeSD> io: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(mythology)
[10:50] <bobweaver> bekks,  lol hostname -I
[10:50] <io> aLeSD: I'm io, not Io - also offtopic for this channel
[10:50] <bobweaver> faceplam
[10:51] <Taek> +Karma¦io
[10:51] <paulus68> bobweaver: LOL
[10:52] <bekks> bobweaver: Note that this works only if the host name  can  be  resolved.
[10:52] <Arnold> Hello. In which channel I can discuss about compiling/packaging from the source code?
[10:52] <bekks> Dont rely on that, but read the man page for hostname, and see the -i option.
[10:52] <bobweaver> good point thanks bekks
[10:53] <io> Arnold: if it's related to Ubuntu, here or any of the #ubuntu-* channels, also there's ##linux
[10:53] <io> Arnold: #ubuntu-packaging for packing questions/chatter
[10:54] <io> s/packing/packaging
[10:54] <s0u][ight> hello, how do I start a second instance of unity
[10:54] <s0u][ight> ?
[10:54] <Bhaumik> i tried another one also its "apt-mirror" but its stucked my system any one know the reason for this?
[10:54] <Arnold> Well, I downloaded the Pidgin sources using "apt-get source pidgin" and I also noticed it applied certain patches while at it.
[10:55] <Arnold> But after that, when I'm running "./configure", it runs it as if the configure.ac file was never modified/patched.
[10:55] <Bhaumik> Taek, i tried another one also its "apt-mirror" but its stucked my system any one know the reason for this?
[10:55] <io> !repeat | Bhaumik
[10:55] <Taek> It stucked your system?
[10:56] <Bhaumik> yus
[10:56] <Bhaumik> yes
[10:56] <Bhaumik> ubottu, ok
[10:56] <s0u][ight> when i do "sudo startx -- :1 vt8" i get "no protocol specified"
[10:56] <io> Arnold: I see, they have their own channel over in #pidgin - you might want to enquire there
[10:57] <Arnold> Thanks io, I've tried to apply the patch on the actual non-patched source code package of theirs and the configure file still didn't react to it. I'll ask them about it.
[10:57] <Taek> Bhaumik what to you mean by stucked?
[10:57] <io> Taek: I think the technical term he's looking for is 'frozen'
[10:58] <Bhaumik> Taek, it means that its not going forward
[10:59] <Taek> If the hdd or dvd light is flshing, have no fear, you are just over working the processor/ram
[10:59] <Bragex9> is there a way to do a memory test from terminal?
[11:00] <Taek> Well at least thats onw possibilty
[11:00] <Taek> 1*
[11:00] <paulus68> bekks: any thoughts?
[11:00] <Bhaumik> means?
[11:01] <Taek> Are lights blinking?
[11:01] <bekks> paulus68: http://austinmatzko.com/2008/04/26/sed-multi-line-search-and-replace/
[11:01] <Bhaumik> yes
[11:01] <Taek> STILL "STUCKED" ?
[11:02] <Taek> Whoops, caps
[11:02] <Taek> Cant disable caps on cellphones.. so sad
[11:02] <Bhaumik> all things working properly in system but when i started "apt-mirror" its not downloading all packages & my system will going down
[11:03] <Taek> What cmd you used?
[11:03] <Bhaumik> apt-mirror
[11:03] <Taek> Did you specify location to save?
[11:03] <Bhaumik> no
[11:04] <bekks> Bhaumik: apt-mirror --help
[11:04] <paulus68> bekks: thanks
[11:06] <Taek> About them A's
[11:06] <Taek> Jk
[11:06] <Bhaumik> ok i'll try
[11:08] <NiBi> Hi , I need help with ubuntu to ubuntu sharing , it answer with "required packages are not installed" can you help me which packages I need ?
[11:09] <Taek> I like this cmd scp /path/to/file.ext username@yourdomain.tld:/path/to/dest/folder
[11:09] <NiBi> I already install samba and samba_lib or something like that
[11:10] <Taek> Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install
[11:10] <Taek> To get left out packagrs
[11:10] <mk> hey guys
[11:10] <bekks> Taek: Please stop providing things that might break a system.
[11:11] <bekks> Left out packages always have a good reason for being left out.
[11:11] <Kaspi> mouse cursor not moving (altough the mouse is connected), what to do? :)
[11:13] <Taek> I was going to argue that, but not from a mobile.
[11:15] <NiBi> can someone help me with that sharing ?
[11:16] <io> NiBi: yes, Taek already answered your question - please look up
[11:17] <Bhaumik> Taek, i tried but its showing like " apt-mirror is already running, exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187."
[11:17] <NiBi> I dont trust "Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install" this command
[11:17] <Kaspi> mouse cursor not moving (altough the mouse is connected), what to do? :)
[11:17] <io> NiBi: your choice
[11:17] <Taek> Why nibi?
[11:18] <Taek> Because bekks said somthing?
[11:18] <NiBi> I set that command to terminal and it installed nothing :/
[11:19] <Taek> Then you have no missing depencies
[11:19] <Bhaumik> no
[11:19] <Taek> You provlem is else where
[11:19] <io> NiBi: what did you type?
[11:20] <NiBi> "Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install"
[11:20] <Taek> Damn wifu
[11:20] <NiBi> which part of this comman is knowing about packages what i need ?
[11:21] <io> NiBi: you need to specify what package you want to install, obviously
[11:21] <Taek> -f install grabs whatever deb packagrs need
[11:22] <Taek> If smbd needs a package it will grab it
[11:22] <NiBi> personal sharing answers that i need packages to enable sharing I have installed samba and still doesnt work
[11:22] <Taek> Did you start it?
[11:23] <bekks> Before starting, did you configure it?
[11:23] <Taek> That too
[11:23] <Taek> +karma¦bekks
[11:23] <bekks> Taek: Would you mind to stop that karma foobar pleas? :)
[11:24] <Taek> You dont like karma?
[11:24] <Taek> Btw yes ill stop
[11:25] <imyousuf> Hi
[11:25] <Taek> Hi
[11:26] <imyousuf> I have added port forwarding rule to my /etc/ufw/before.rules as *nat \n :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] \n -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 7689 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:22 \n COMMIT
[11:26] <imyousuf> I have also done ufw allow from any to any port 7689
[11:26] <imyousuf> but if I have ufw enabled then port forwarding gets timed out
[11:27] <imyousuf> whereas if I disable ufw the portforwading works just fine
[11:27] <imyousuf> what am I missing here?
[11:27] <Taek> I dont jnow ufw sorry
[11:27] <Taek> Kbow*
[11:27] <Taek> !ufw
[11:28] <notk0> hello, how can I escape folders that contain spaces for usage in the terminal?
[11:29] <mcb_1> notk0: You can use "Folder with Space"  or you can scape the space character as: Folder\ with\ space
[11:29] <notk0> mcb_1, thank you, I'll try that
[11:30] <NiBi> I opened network there is folder windows network , there I see that LINUX computer where I need to get in and it answer with "cannot mount windows network"
[11:31] <notk0> mcb_1, thank you, that worked
[11:31] <mrhi> hi
[11:31] <Taek> Nibi, sounds like you havr no netwirk shares on windows
[11:32] <mrhi> hum
[11:32] <mcb_1>  imyousuf: I dont know ufw commands syntax, but the iptables rule should look like this: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 7689 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:22
[11:32] <mrhi> 한국사람은 없나
[11:32] <mcb_1> notk0: You are welcome.
[11:32] <NiBi> I want to get to that linux computer shared files
[11:32] <Taek> In windows vista/7 workgroup
[11:33] <NiBi> Im sure there is shared file
[11:33] <imyousuf> mcb_1: that is there in before.rules
[11:33] <Taek> You configured samba to share a folder?
[11:33] <mrhi> exit
[11:33] <imyousuf> I need to know if before.rules the ideal place to put it?
[11:34] <NiBi> I set share folder , and sharing options to allow all ... if you mean that or how to configure samba for sharing ?
[11:34] <Kaspi> where to find the "wmwgfx" package?
[11:34] <bluebird> can i ask  a kubuntu doubt here?
[11:35] <notk0> hello again, there is a command for the x server that can disable for keys to not be repeated when a key is being held (as in when a key is pressed for key released and pressed signals to not be generated) does anyone know that command?
[11:36] <notk0> nevermind , it's xset found it in the history of my terminal commands
[11:37] <mcb_1> imyousuf:  Does ufw ruling has the same syntax as iptables? If so, you missed the -t nat part. Thats all that wanted to point to you.
[11:37] <imyousuf> that is given as *nat mcb_1
[11:38] <Kaspi> where to find the "wmwgfx" package?
[11:38] <mcb_1> imyousuf:  But ufw will use iptables. Doesn it? You can always do iptables -t nat -L and pipe it to file to see how your rules are. maybe it can point to the right direction.
[11:39] <imyousuf> hmm let me check
[11:47] <bastidrazor>  /w 3
[11:49] <Zenger> Hi guys, I have problem and I'm trying to solve it the whole day. I'm stuck in low res at 1024x768, I have  17" monitor capable of 1280x1024. I have installed the nvidia drivers , the nouveau didn't work. Here are the logs of  lspci, glxinfo, xrandr http://pastebin.com/JKcsEVtT if someone could give me a hint how could I set a higher res I would be gratefull .
[11:49] <localpc4> every once in a while my servers finger print changes and i get access denied for ssh
[11:50] <Zenger> I think it's a problem of the monitor. But I am so out of ideeas I don't even  know what to do :(
[11:50] <yeats> localpc4: are you the only administrator of that server?
[11:50] <arc_amit> Hello,Can someone please tell me...How to know the maximum RTO in ubuntu 11?
[11:50] <localpc4> yeats: yes,
[11:51] <localpc4> yeats: not sure if this has to do with the capistrano tool that I am using or its just that something is wrong with my sshd
[11:51] <yeats> localpc4: do you reinstall Ubuntu periodically?
[11:51] <localpc4> this was a new installtaion
[11:51]  * yeats is not familiar with capistrano
[11:52] <localpc4> but i cant ssh now:(
[11:52] <localpc4> i have to keep manually deleting the host from known_hosts
[11:52] <localpc4> to accept the finger print again
[11:52] <localpc4> now i get Write Failed : Broken pipe
[11:53] <geraldh> Is it possible to delay the lock screen after the screensaver starts? Does someone how I can configure that?
[11:53] <yeats> localpc4: once you get access again, you should check your server logs
[11:54] <localpc4> yeats: i have physical access to the server as well, i will see the logs now
[11:54] <yeats> localpc4: the key fingerprint doesn't "just change" - something is causing that to happen
[11:55] <localpc4> yeats: is the log in syslog?
[11:56] <yeats> localpc4: I would start there, then check auth.log and maybe daemon.log
[11:56]  * yeats has to go away
[11:56] <yeats> localpc4: good luck
[11:56] <localpc4> thanks 4 help
[11:58] <ron__> Can anyone help with Apache? it recently stopped parsing php on virtual hosts for no apparent reason..
[11:58] <iceroot> ron__: #httpd may help
[11:58] <ikonia> ron__: what does the access and error log show ?
[11:58] <InBar> hi all, is the notes sync service always available ?
[11:59] <ron__> it shows nothing.. it isnt throwing up any errors it simply decided to stop parsing php on anything other than the default host
[11:59] <fayimora> A friend wants to start a business and wants to know what kind of server he should be aiming to buy. He wants to run a SaaS company.. Any ideas?
[12:04] <ron__> ikonia: there are no errors in the error log beyond normal 405 errors etc.
[12:06] <MarKsaitis> how do I upgrade 11.04 64bit to the newest 12 LTS?
[12:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: #ubuntu+1
[12:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: and 12.04 is still beta
[12:06] <MarKsaitis> yeah, but it will not be beta in few weeks
[12:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: doesnt matter
[12:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: its beta and not supported here and things may break
[12:07] <ron__> iceroot: what do you mean by httpd. the server or the black conf file apache has?
[12:08] <ron__> blank*
[12:08] <iceroot> ron__: the irc-apache channel #httpd
[12:08] <AndyUbuntu> hey everyone
[12:08] <ron__> ok, thanks..
[12:08] <AndyUbuntu> im just wondering if updating to 12.04 will be stable yet
[12:08] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: no
[12:08] <MarKsaitis> can somebody please recommend me a nice tidy lighweight desktop environment?
[12:09] <ron__> Do so at your own peril
[12:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: lxde (lubuntu-desktop)
[12:09] <kantlivelong> AndyUbuntu: i wouldnt...
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> iceroot, ok thanks. So its worth waiting till the end of the month
[12:09] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, top one, thanx
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> excellent
[12:09] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: maybe even longer
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for letting me know
[12:09] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: not a good idea to upgrade on release-day
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> ohh really, is the release date being pushed back
[12:09] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: no
[12:10] <AndyUbuntu> yeah true
[12:10] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: but the repos will die
[12:10] <AndyUbuntu> yeah true, always find that
[12:10] <Guest43386> somebody could help me ?
[12:10] <AndyUbuntu> 12.04 looks pretty good soo looking foward to the release
[12:12] <Kaspi> guys, how can I install the vmwgfx module?
[12:12] <geraldh> I found the gconf /app/gnome-screensaver/lock_delay setting, is it possible to set that in seconds instead of minutes? I would like a delay of say 5 seconds. In that way I can have a "hot corner" that activates the screensaver, but doesn't lock the pc by accident if I hit it.
[12:13] <sent> !ask | Guest43386
[12:13] <iCoffee> sent:
[12:13] <iCoffee> i can't open grub customizer
[12:14] <aarish> hi call i need some autoamtion solution for medical and health care can you help me
[12:15] <iCoffee> when it finishes loading it closes
[12:16] <Kaspi> how can I install the vmwgfx module?
[12:16] <kapz> ok I am trying to share my printer connected to ubuntu with windows 7 over LAN through cups-IPP...log shows the below message, what does it mean and how can I resolve it?
[12:16] <kapz> Returning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Resume-Printer (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1670-Series) from localhost
[12:20] <zxiest> Hello :-)
[12:21] <zxiest> I'm running ubuntu in virtual box and everything was fine. I updated yesterday and my displays are now broken (using two monitors)
[12:21] <zxiest> The resolution that used to fit isn't there anymore
[12:21] <zxiest> What can I do?
[12:21] <ron_l> the #httpd channel wont let me chat.
[12:21] <Kaspi> how can I install the vmwgfx module?
[12:21] <fidel> ron_l: invite only? voice only?
[12:22] <fidel> anyways - not related with this chan ;)
[12:22] <rogst> zxiest: reinstall the virtualbox guest tools
[12:22] <io> ron_l: register a nickname. also this is offtopic for this channel, ask in #freenode
[12:22] <ron_l> someone told me to go there erlier for help with apache, but since it's not workign even after just registering..
[12:22] <Kaspi> jesus, I hate such low level errors
[12:22] <zxiest> rogst I tried reinstalling virtualbox altogether.. Are the guest tools included?
[12:23] <rogst> zxiest: the guest tools inside the virual machine
[12:23] <zxiest> rogst alright cool, will try that :-) Thanks :-)
[12:23] <io> ron_l: you haven't completed registration verification - please ask in #freenode
[12:24] <parenta> surabaya
[12:24] <rogst> zxiest: I think you have updated the kernel and then the virtualboc guest tools need to be recompiled for the new kernel version
[12:24] <ron_l> oh i see.. my bad
[12:24] <zxiest> rogst makes sense.. Will try reinstalling and will let you know if this works out :-)
[12:25] <sent> !id | parenta
[12:25] <parenta> ok
[12:25] <fidel> parenta: or stay inhere & keep it english ;)
[12:26] <Kaspi> how can I install the vmwgfx module? is there any repository containing it?
[12:26] <roasted> Question - am I correct by understanding that a kernel regression is where changes are made that break supported devices and/or trimming of kernel fat that may end up being needed?
[12:27] <wonderman> Hi, can someone tell me how to manually set my DNS servers in ubuntu
[12:27] <wonderman> so that a DNS leak will not reveal ym local DNS
[12:27] <fidel> wonderman: /etc/resolv.conf
[12:28] <wonderman> ok, thats a local DNS, i just remove that and add another DNS provider?
[12:28] <rogst> Kaspi: you can install apt-file, and then run apt-file search vmwgfx to find packages that contains a file named that
[12:28] <parenta> dimana ubottu?
[12:28] <fidel> file can contains > 1 bnameserver entries
[12:29] <fidel> parenta: ubottu is a bot
[12:30] <rogst> roasted: yes, that is a correct description of a regression bug
[12:31] <roasted> rogst: I see. I was doing some reading about Alps touchpads, evidently a lot of them were broken in 11.04 and 11.10 when they worked relatively well in 10.10. Some people were explaining it as a kernel regression and I kind of drew a blank.
[12:31] <MarKsaitis> what vpn daemon package can you recommend to me? something with encryption and sessions. iceroot
[12:31] <MarKsaitis> an interesting one *** lubuntu-desktop : Depends: gecko-mediaplayer but it is not installable
[12:32] <roasted> rogst: I wouldn't expect something like that to get "regressed" and even for the 2nd release (11.10) it still be unfixed. Looks like 12.04 is more promising (as well as a .deb for 11.04 and 11.10)
[12:32] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: openvpn
[12:32] <iceroot> !vpn | MarKsaitis
[12:32] <MarKsaitis> I know what openvpn is and am already using it on 5 production servers
[12:32] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: for the lubuntu-problem. what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:32] <iceroot> !paste | MarKsaitis
[12:32] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, in my question I ment vnc, sorry I misspeled it
[12:33] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: i am not using vnc so i dont know
[12:33] <iceroot> !vnc | MarKsaitis
[12:34] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915944/
[12:35] <StepNjump> How well does gnome2 work in Oneiric?
[12:35] <fidel> StepNjump: is it any helpful if i answer 'well' now? ;)
[12:36] <pluz> Hi peoples
[12:37] <StepNjump> _fidel... lol sarcastic?
[12:37] <MarKsaitis> I thought I have a stable 11.04 all upgraded etc. But that lubuntu-desktop thing just doesn't install for me
[12:37] <StepNjump> fidel: well in well or well in .. well, ...?
[12:37] <io> MarKsaitis: more details
[12:38] <MarKsaitis> io,
[12:38] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/Nhpce80Z
[12:38] <bekks> MarKsaitis: The complete output of "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" please.
[12:38] <fidel> StepNjump: i doubt the core question is detailed enough - so its interesting my answer wasnt detailed enough for you either ;) I am using gnome2 here in a vm on 11.10 - and havent realized any issues so far
[12:38] <MarKsaitis> here it is http://pastebin.com/Nhpce80Z :)
[12:39] <fidel> but asking for "best" or "how well" usualy isnt that helpful in general ...just my impression
[12:39] <bekks> MarKsaitis: and the output of "sudo apt-get install gecko-mediaplayer" in a pastebin :)
[12:39] <StepNjump> fidel: well, I heard 11.10 deoesn't ship with Gnome but with Unity, so I guess one has to do a few fiddlings in order to get it to work?
[12:39] <io> MarKsaitis: '$ apt-get -f install'?
[12:39] <bekks> io: No.
[12:40] <StepNjump> I am reluctant to upgrade cuz I can't stand Unity fidel
[12:40] <fidel> StepNjump: you might need to install additional packages yes
[12:40] <io> bekks: if I was speaking to you, your nickname would be at the start of the sentance
[12:40] <fidel> ie. gnome-shell for gnome3
[12:40] <pluz> someone used Moonlight to watch Netflix?
[12:40] <fidel> or gnome-panel iirc for the old one
[12:40] <MarKsaitis> bekks, http://pastebin.com/h2mMtT91
[12:40] <fidel> but both is pretty good documented in the web/blogs/etc
[12:41] <bekks> io: If you dont like people to correct obvious error, please just say so.
[12:41] <fidel> StepNjump: there is really no reason to not update the core-distri you are using only cause you dislike the default-window-environment
[12:41] <dv_> hello
[12:41] <dv_> i am interested in how a package was built
[12:41] <rogst> StepNjump: have you tired Unity without the global appmenu-bar and without the overlay scrollbars, after those two components are uninstalled I find Unity realy nice
[12:41] <dv_> especially the ./configure line that was used
[12:41] <dv_> is it documented somewhere?
[12:42] <StepNjump> fidel, ok... I'm not a power user yet but ok, if it's feasible.. Thanks!
[12:42] <sanjeev_sh> how can i install a newer version of already installed package?
[12:42] <io> sanjeev_sh: upgrade if it's in the repositories
[12:42] <StepNjump> rogst: would you have detailed instructions on how to do this please?
[12:42] <StepNjump> thanks fidel
[12:42] <fidel> sanjeev_sh: you should start first by checking what versions your apt sources provide/offer
[12:43] <fidel> sanjeev_sh: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME might be helpful here
[12:43] <io> sanjeev_sh: what package and what version of Ubuntu?
[12:43] <sanjeev_sh> io: ubuntu 11.04 and i want to install gcc4.7
[12:43] <zxiest> rogst reinstalling guest extensions worked out pretty well! Thank you very much :-)
[12:44] <MarKsaitis> bekks, any ideas? As it makes no sense to me. The system is fully updated and upgraded
[12:44] <pluz> Hi people (again)..   someone used Moonlight to watch Netflix?
[12:44] <Kaspi> my mouse cursor doesn't move... what could I do?
[12:44] <rogst> zxiest: your welcome
[12:44] <zxiest> rogst :-)
[12:45] <zxiest> Have a wonderful day guys .. Later :-)
[12:45] <sipior> pluz: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/faq.aspx (sorry.)
[12:45] <MarKsaitis> :)
[12:45] <luc4> Hi! Anyone experiencing crash of various applications recently?
[12:46] <fidel> luc4: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[12:46] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Then fire up "sudo apt-get update" please and provide the output of "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin
[12:46] <rogst> StepNjump: to remove the global menu sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu
[12:47] <io> sanjeev_sh: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69135/is-there-a-ppa-for-gcc4-7
[12:47] <StepNjump> Another stupid question: Why is it when I try to install thunderbird on Natty, it installs version 3 instead of version 11? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/install-thunderbird-11-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[12:47] <MarKsaitis> bekks, will do, thank you
[12:47] <StepNjump> oh very good rogst thank you very much. I will take a note of that for when I install oneiric
[12:47] <luc4> fidel: no need to ask with details, this is something you notice. Many applications are segfaulting. Qt Creator, Firefox etc... many times during the day. Since yesterday I think.
[12:47] <rogst> StepNjump: to remove overlay scrollbars sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-0
[12:47] <StepNjump> thanks fer your help rogst
[12:48] <luc4> fidel: and I'm not the only one with this problem.
[12:48]  * sanjeev_sh clicks on io's link
[12:48] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/XRxjij2Y bekks
[12:49] <fidel> luc4: it still helps to throw in a more detailed question - which results in not-guessing what in detail you are thinking about ;)
[12:49] <io> StepNjump: because the repositories for natty contain version 3: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/thunderbird
[12:49] <fidel> no offense ;)
[12:49] <io> stephane_yaal: 11 is present in oneiric: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/thunderbird
[12:49] <io> StepNjump: ^
[12:50] <mkfsu235> Hi, I have a virtual server with oneiric running. So i default posfix install as internet site gets me a nice open relay. tried blocking 25 with ufw but i can still telnet in via anywhere.
[12:50] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Could you pastebin "sudo apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer" too?
[12:50] <bekks> mkfsu235: Then stop the postfix service
[12:50] <bekks> mkfsu235: And configure it :)
[12:50] <StepNjump> io: ok thanks so the only other way to install Thunderbird 11 under Natty is by installing it from the tar.gz archive?
[12:51] <mkfsu235> why can't i just block the port ?
[12:51] <MarKsaitis> bekks,
[12:51] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/kbebBHdv
[12:51] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Thats not much :)
[12:51] <io> StepNjump: or use the ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable !ppa
[12:51] <luc4> fidel: no offense at all. The problem is that I don't have more details. I tried to strace an application but I don't see anything useful. Applications are simply segfaulting randomly. I experienced this mostly with Firefox and Qt Creator because those are the applications I use the most. Also the Qt Creator installer couldn't finish the installation at all. I tried to downgrade mesa-related libs but that didn't solve.
[12:51] <io> !ppa | StepNjump
[12:52] <MarKsaitis> bekks, anything else I can post?
[12:52] <StepNjump> oh thanks io.. learned something new!
[12:52] <StepNjump> I'll give it a shot
[12:52] <io> StepNjump: good luck
[12:53] <StepNjump> Ill let u knw io
[12:53] <Kaspi> my mouse cursor doesn't move... what could I do?
[12:54] <Xabster> plug it in
[12:54] <Dr_willis> Kaspi,  try it at the console perhaps. install 'gpm' and see if it moves around there..
[12:54] <rogst> Kaspi: did it move before?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> unplug/plug it back in would be a good thing to try also.
[12:54] <Kaspi> Dr_willis: what's gpm?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> !info gpm
[12:54] <Kaspi> rogst: it did...
[12:55] <Dr_willis> gpm = gives mouse at the console.
[12:55] <Kaspi> rogst: it actually still does, in another system
[12:56] <rogst> Kaspi: you could try "sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse"
[12:57] <Kaspi> rogst: well, no success :/
[12:58] <Dr_willis> this is a ps2 mouse?
[12:58] <MarKsaitis> can anyone please help me to install lxde? This is what I get http://pastebin.com/dpfbLsNG
[12:58] <Kaspi> I just installed lubuntu and it just doesn't work, this has never happened to me :/
[12:58] <CFHowlett> Kaspi   "doesn't work" means???
[12:58] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: looks like your repos are messed up
[12:59] <Kaspi> CFHowlett: it doesn't move
[12:59] <Kaspi> (the cursor)
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Kaspi, it did work on the live cd/installer?
[12:59] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, how can it be? It's a fresh distro. How can I default my repos?
[12:59] <Kaspi> Dr_willis: I installed it using console, so I don't know (net install)
[12:59] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it won't change if you "default" your repos, it looks like you've got package conflicts
[12:59] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: do "sudo apt-get update" first, then re-try it
[12:59] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: output of apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer
[12:59] <MarKsaitis> ok
[13:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it won't work - but it's worth checking
[13:00] <Kaspi> the mouse buttons seem to work though... just the pointer doesn't move
[13:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I suspect your virtual provider has made a bastardised Ubuntu build as is often the case and is pointing at the wrong repos
[13:01] <localpc4> i cant even ssh into my localhost, getting permission denied! wired!
[13:01] <neurotech> Does anyone know if it's possible to use a different terminal than Powershell/Command Prompt in Windows?
[13:01] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, iceroot http://pastebin.com/38tJrQ6G
[13:01] <iceroot> neurotech: ##windows
[13:01] <neurotech> thanks
[13:01] <MarKsaitis> and how can we fix that ikonia
[13:02] <iceroot> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[13:02] <localpc4> neurotech: http://win-bash.sourceforge.net/
[13:02] <ikonia> iceroot: natty....lubuntu didn't exist then
[13:02] <iceroot> ikonia: ah yes
[13:02] <ikonia> iceroot: just clicked
[13:02] <ikonia> although why is "lubuntu-desktop" there
[13:02] <iceroot> ikonia: it was the first unofficial release imo
[13:03] <iceroot> ikonia: like in 11.10 is wayland :)
[13:03] <iceroot> !info gecko-mediaplayer natty
[13:03] <ikonia> !info lubuntu-desktop natty
[13:03] <Kaspi> omg
[13:03] <iceroot> ikonia: the player exist in 11.04
[13:03] <MarKsaitis> so in 11.04, I have unoficial release of lubuntu? I thought 11.04 is all stable as everybody said?
[13:03] <ikonia> iceroot: yup
[13:04] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: no, that's not what we are saying
[13:04] <iceroot> ikonia: i dont get why apt-get policy does not show it in his release
[13:04] <vikasp> hi
[13:04] <iceroot> ikonia: ah
[13:04] <iceroot> ikonia: multiverse
[13:04] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: enable the multiverse repo
[13:04] <Kaspi> I found out :D well this should be added to the "Mouse pointer not moving" troubleshooting article on the wiki
[13:04] <ikonia> yes, just seen it
[13:04] <iceroot> !multiverse | MarKsaitis
[13:05] <MarKsaitis> thank you iceroot, your a star. Why does this stuff not work with default repos?
[13:05] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: enable the multiverse repo, run apt-get update and then you can install lubuntu-desktop
[13:06] <bpb_grinda> what is creating the xconsole.log in /var/log
[13:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: because lubuntu was not official released for your release
[13:06] <CFHowlett> MarKsaitis   your default distro sets the default repos ...
[13:06] <MarKsaitis> Im trying to find out now how to enable it :)
[13:06] <vikasp> :)
[13:06] <bpb_grinda> what is creating the xconsole.log in /var/log ?
[13:06] <vikasp> :0
[13:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put the word multiverse in the line were already main is
[13:06] <nirjhor> how can I rename a directory from "thumbnail" to "thumbs" recursively?
[13:06] <ready> test amsg
[13:06] <nirjhor> "find -name "*thumbnail*" -exec rename s/thumbnail/thumbs/ {} \;" this works on local but not on server
[13:06] <aarish> hi i have problem in my apache server in ubuntu
[13:06] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, what do you mean it was? Is 11.04 frozen in time? Are we not talking about today here? :)
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: every release will be frozen
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: only security updates
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: and lxde was at that time when 11.04 was released not an offical ubuntu derivat
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: but you are just missing the multiverse repo
[13:08] <MarKsaitis> so if an LTS release is rolling for 5 years, at which stage is it frozen with it's apps?
[13:08] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: before it's released
[13:08] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it's not a rolling release
[13:08] <zykotick9> MarKsaitis: ubuntu is not rolling...
[13:08] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: 1-2 month before release
[13:08] <MarKsaitis> how bizzaire :)))
[13:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: called feature freeze
[13:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: feature freeze for 12.04 was in february
[13:09] <MarKsaitis> and that means that you don't get any new software for the next 5 years......
[13:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you will just get securitys-fixes and bug fixes no new software (there are some exceptions were you will get newer versions)
[13:10] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: correct
[13:10] <iceroot> !backports | MarKsaitis
[13:10] <Daekdroom> MarKsaitis, there are some situations in which people do not want new software.
[13:10] <MarKsaitis> multiverse in sources.list, do I add this word for each of the three lfirst lines?
[13:10] <Daekdroom> If you do, then you upgrade to a newer Ubuntu release
[13:10] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: only one line
[13:11] <MarKsaitis> so only in naty, but not natty-updates and natty-security?
[13:11] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: correct
[13:11] <MarKsaitis> but I might want the updates as well? why not?
[13:11] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: which updates?
[13:11] <iceroot> mmajor updates? or security updates?
[13:12] <MarKsaitis> updates for the multiverse?
[13:12] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you will get them
[13:12] <MarKsaitis> oh, ok :)
[13:13] <MarKsaitis> thank you, lubuntu-desktop wants 1028 MB. Is that lightweight enough then? :)
[13:13] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: yes
[13:13] <MarKsaitis> and, is lubuntu-desktop much different on 11.04 and 12.04 ?
[13:13] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: there is also lubuntu-core but i am facing evil bugs with it at the moment so i cant say its a good idea to use lubuntu-core
[13:13] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: no
[13:14] <christian__> why is my ubuntu so slow
[13:14] <christian__> firefox is lagging so much
[13:14] <christian__> :(
[13:14] <MarKsaitis> firefox is crap :) I like chrome
[13:15] <christian__> i dont trust google
[13:15] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, how come there is not? I mean they are 2 years of development in difference, no?
[13:15] <christian__> i am scared it will sell my soul to the devil :(
[13:15] <localpc4> have to agree on that, FF seems to be losing the edge - So I use chromium
[13:15] <MarKsaitis> I dont trust google either :)
[13:15] <Elchzard> christian__: tried xubuntu or lubuntu?
[13:15] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: lxde is not designed to offer the latest fancy stuff
[13:15] <christian__> no elchzard only for my netbook
[13:16] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: just a solid desktop
[13:16] <christian__> but i dont use it much
[13:16] <christian__> its crap :>
[13:16] <christian__> i regret the day i got that netbook
[13:16] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, so lxde on 11.04 is an old version, but all bugs are fixed for it up2date?
[13:16] <christian__> ^^rather buy a real notebook for the money next time
[13:16] <christian__> i also have to say. firefox seems to be a bit more buggy in the past
[13:17] <christian__> sometimes FF just don't respond to my input for about a min. after i open for example youtube..
[13:18] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, I understand how to do port forwarding over ssh, now what sshd can u recommend to me please so it just install's and runs in the system and serves user sessions?
[13:18] <MarKsaitis> for LXDE ofcourse, or however it all works technically
[13:19] <ikonia> what ssh ???
[13:19] <MarKsaitis> and thank you all for your support, all going good so far
[13:19] <MarKsaitis> I ment vnc lol
[13:19] <MarKsaitis> sorry
[13:20] <christian__> btw does anybody know some programming games, where you have to program a small ai for a robot or something like that ? i once played such a game, it was fun
[13:23] <tale> christian__:  apt-cache show robocode realtimebattle
[13:23] <christian__> thx tale
[13:23] <doherty> Is there a way to force ssh to /not/ use the ControlMaster socket for a new ssh session?
[13:24] <bpb_grinda> how do I stop syslog ?
[13:25] <bpb_grinda> how do I stop syslog ?
[13:25] <sacarlson> doherty: you can change the listen port on the server side if desired
[13:26] <doherty> sacarlson: that is /a/ solution... O.o
[13:26]  * doherty tries ssh -F /dev/null host
[13:26] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  perhaps 'sudo service servicename stop'
[13:26] <Slasher`> anyone know how i can tell apt to ignore a broken package please? the package isn't broken, it's required for my printer to work, but apt is moaning about it
[13:27] <MarKsaitis> so, can somebody recommend me a good session based vnc daemon for my lxde?
[13:27] <bpb_grinda> Dr_willis i want to make sure it doesnt start after reboot ?
[13:27] <tale> MarKsaitis: Put that package on Hold.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  ive seen guides on setting up vnc  at boot via xinetd or inetd. not sure what you are looking for .
[13:28] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  if its started by a upstart service - rename its .conf file in /etc/init/
[13:28] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  not sure what service manager gui tools are out there at this time for upstart
[13:28] <tale> Sorry Slasher` Put that package on Hold.
[13:28] <Dr_willis> IF its managed by upstart
[13:28] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, tale - I only want a simple vnc daemon which can serve desktop interface sessions with my newly installed lxde environment
[13:29] <bpb_grinda> Dr_willis is this going to work: rc-update del syslog-ng
[13:29] <Slasher`> tale - in synaptic?
[13:29] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  you can set vnc to have hidden desktops. or you can use x11vnc to share the currently running desktop
[13:29] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  no idea.  i am not sure if the rc-update stuff works for upstart managed services
[13:30] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, what is a hidden desktop? I dont want to hide anything. i don't want currently running desktop, I wan virtual desktops for each user
[13:30] <sanjeev_sh> how can i upgrade to the latest release of ubuntu from a local mirror server?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  at one time i had vnc setup where i could vnc in and it would spawn a new vnc session each time, giving me the gdm login screen.
[13:30] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  you have hidden, or currentlyt running.. if its not visiable on the local monitor- then its hidden.
[13:31] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  so basically you want several users to have their own independant desktop they access via vnc.
[13:31] <Guest21751> I would like to update Thunderbird to 11.0.3 in Ubuntu 10.10 as security updates stop on the 24th April. The new Thunderbird is not available from Ubuntu Software Centre. I downloaded Thunderbird but have a folder of files and have no real idea how to proceed. Does anybody know if there are guides for this? If I run the new Thunderbird script it starts the new version and seems to work with...
[13:31] <Guest21751> ...my old folders will this suffice?
[13:31] <MarKsaitis> I don't want any visible stuff. Only virtual as per user. So, one virtual screen for user root and different for user admin, so they can use them at the same time
[13:31] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the users could ssh in, run vncserver, then connect to their vnc desktop - that would give them a persistant desktop. which is handy
[13:32] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, yes, independent
[13:32] <hylian> sanjeev_sh, local? do you mean you have the cache files stored somewhere?
[13:32] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, I want a persistent desktop for each user, but I want this daemon to always run and provide it for them
[13:32] <Dr_willis> vncserver on linux defaults to the way you are mentioning MarKsaitis  - its  all about the fine points of how you want it to be used.
[13:33] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis,  which vnc server is that?
[13:33] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the demon route last i looked will NOT give them a persistant desktop. vnc will get killed when they exit. sshing in will be persistant. as would starting one by hand for each user from rc.local (but thats a bit of a pain)
[13:33] <sanjeev_sh> hylian: our university has a private mirror of ubuntu, so i want to upgrade to latest ubuntu version from that mirror
[13:33] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  any vncserver should work that way. but not x11vnc or other 'share current desktop vnc'  types.
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, ok, I dont care about persistency yet then
[13:34] <hylian> Guest21751, if you managed to keep your old folders from the /home/user/ directory, and then put them back, you should still have things like your contacts and old emails. you can also use your current thunderibird to export everything, and then after upgrade, use thunderbird to import everything... am i getting close to what you are looking for?
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> I wan't just the normal thing then
[13:34] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the askubuntu.com site may have some up to date guides on setting this up. last i did it was several years back
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> as soon as it works with lxde
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> ok
[13:34] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the guides i saw ages ago gave the users a login screen via gdm. so it worked with whatever you had installed.
[13:35] <Dr_willis> they used xinetd which is a bit outdated these days
[13:35] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  is this on a local lan only? over internet? what are the users machines running?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> 'its all about the details' :)
[13:36] <MarKsaitis> users running windows, thats oer ssh port fowards
[13:36] <xr1rr> wondered if anyone wanted to fill in a phishing questionnaire for my research project
[13:36] <Slasher`> xr1rr; i'll do it
[13:36] <LjL> xr1rr: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is not the place
[13:37] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  you may want to check into 'freenx' also - its supposed to be faster then vnc. but i havent really used it. - I tend to use xming, and X forwarding these days instead of vnc.
[13:37] <MarKsaitis> i use freenx and xming for other servers. Want vnc for this one
[13:38] <hylian> sanjeev_sh, if you can get to software sources, you can specify a server there. as long as your universities server is listed there, you could use it.
[13:38] <xr1rr> Slasher: https://bit.ly/HlOE1T
[13:38] <Slasher`> can you pm me the proper link?
[13:39] <hylian> sanjeev_sh, you should be able to gain access to the software sources through the ubuntu software center, or if it is installed, synaptic.
[13:40] <sanjeev_sh> hylian: it is not an official mirror server of ubuntu yet, can i add a custom server there?
[13:41] <Guest21751> hylian: Half way there I think. The problem I am having is that I am not sure where to place the new Thunderbird files. I have a single folder on my desktop currently which I extracted after having downloaded from Mozilla. I notice that the Thunderbird files are scattered on the system in their appropriate places. I have no idea if I need to try and replace each file individually with its...
[13:41] <Guest21751> ...new counterpart or if I can simply place the new Thunderbird folder in /etc or something similar. I did execute a Thunderbird script from the folder sitting on my desktop which loaded the new version and also loads my email from the original location. Would it be silly of me to place the new Thunderbird folder arbitrarily and then just replace my shortcuts? Sorry if that makes no sense.
[13:42] <ikonia> Guest21751: strongly advise you not to use thunderbird unless it is installed from the official ubuntu software repos
[13:42] <ikonia> Guest21751: or you fully understand the risks of what you are doing and how to manage it
[13:43] <MarKsaitis> how do I list services? and how do I start vino service?
[13:44] <Guest21751> That is the problem. I still have not had the time to learn about Ubuntu and Linux in general so I am a bit in the dark :(
[13:44] <Guest21751> I was just concerned that come 24th April when Thunderbird is no longer supported I be more at risk.
[13:45] <Dr_willis> Guest21751,  for a user. you could keep your own thunderbird binary in its own dir in your home. that would be just for that user.
[13:45] <io> MarKsaitis: '$ sudo service <service_name> start'. look in /etc/init.d
[13:45] <ikonia> Guest21751: why are you not using thunderbird provided by ubuntu ?
[13:46] <MarKsaitis> I did apt-get install vino, but I dont think the service is running. i cant find it in etc init d either
[13:46] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  vino will only share the currently running visible desktop as far as i know.
[13:46] <MarKsaitis> really
[13:46] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  its a specialized embded vnc server i guess you can say
[13:47] <MarKsaitis> im deleting it then
[13:47] <Dr_willis> x11vnc is also specilized.
[13:47] <Guest21751> ikonia: I am currently using the one provided through software centre. But support stops soon so I wanted to update. Is it possible to get a Thunderbird 11 package for Ubuntu 10.10?
[13:47] <Dr_willis> plus vino may be gnome only. (i rarely use it)
[13:47] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: you can list what is presently listening on your system network with sudo netstat -pant ;
[13:47] <MarKsaitis> sacarlson, I already did, no 5900
[13:48] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: ok you want to start vino server from the command line?  remind you that the users session must be open to run the server
[13:48] <Guest21751> Dr_willie: Thanks, I may see if I can do something similar if I can't find something pre packaged
[13:49] <MarKsaitis> sacarlson, no. i want a normal latest stable ssh server running and providing virtual desktops for any user on the system
[13:49] <MarKsaitis> what sort of vnc do I want to install
[13:49] <Guest21751> At this point I feel sad that I spent so much time using windows when I could have been learning all about Linux :/
[13:50] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: you can start vino vnc from a remote ssh session
[13:50] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: so you don't already have an ssh server running?
[13:50] <MarKsaitis> i am repeating again, i want a daemon which already listens.
[13:50] <MarKsaitis> i have ssh, I want vnc
[13:51] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  install a standard 'vncserver' then. like xtightvnc or vnc4server
[13:51] <MarKsaitis> are there any other on the top?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> !info tightvncserver
[13:52] <MarKsaitis> apt-get install xtightvnc - not found
[13:52] <Dr_willis> !info vnc4server
[13:52] <MarKsaitis> found it
[13:52] <Dr_willis> There may be other vncservers - those are the 2 ive used over the years.
[13:53] <Dr_willis> http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot
[13:54] <MarKsaitis> what is the service name for thightvncserver?
[13:54] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  its NOT a normal 'service' by default.. none of them are as far as i know
[13:54] <Dr_willis> see the url i posted on how to make it a service.
[13:54] <MarKsaitis> I used to install some vnc servers on centos I think, they used to just work with service etc
[13:54] <Dr_willis> this is where freenx differs from vnc i belive.
[13:55] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  they set them up special then.
[13:55] <StepNjump> Anybody has problems with compiz crashing?\
[13:55] <Dr_willis> normal ussage would be for the user to ssh in, run vncserver, then connect with a vnc client.
[13:55] <Guest21751> Thank you for your advice everyone. I think I will track down someone locally who can do this!
[13:55] <bharath> can anyone tell me how to draw polygon on the desktop
[13:55] <MarKsaitis> what a pain
[13:56] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the askubuntu.com site mentioned how centos/rhel has that feature.
[13:56] <Dr_willis> and may have some silimer solutions
[13:56] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: this is the method I found to enable vino remote enabled from ssh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[13:57] <MarKsaitis> thanx, vino is crap as smbd said it only does the real desktop. I want virtual hidden ones
[13:57] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  old guide on doing it with xinetd - used it years ago -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[13:57] <MarKsaitis> thanx
[13:57] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  as far as i know vino only does the local/visuble/current desktop. its had other issues so i never use vino
[13:57] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: oh ya that's a different setup all together
[13:58] <bharath> Dr_willis:can you please tell me how to draw polygon on the desktop?
[13:58] <Dr_willis> bharath,  thats vague.. go learn pyton.. make an app.. make it draw a polygon...
[13:59] <Dr_willis> or use a app to set the wallpaper to show a polygon. :)
[13:59] <bharath> Dr_willis: not on the window
[14:00] <magicJ> I have a system that correctly connects to my modem/router by ethernet as long as the router is already up.  If however the router is reset we do not automatically re-connect how do I fix this
[14:00] <graingert> anybody using empathy here? for IRC
[14:00] <graingert> there is a user I can't tab complete to
[14:01] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: maybe this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1832456
[14:02] <Dr_willis> ive seen dozens of guides on setting up vnc at boot time. its all a matter of the details. :)  but most i read are now 3+ yrs old at least. that one url i showed earlier seemed neweest
[14:02] <Dr_willis> http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot seems decently recent
[14:02] <Dr_willis> and its 3 yrs old.
[14:03] <arafangion> graingert: I'm here.
[14:03] <graingert> arafangion: I can tab complete you here
[14:03] <graingert> whatafaurh?
[14:03] <StepNjump> Where is thunderbird supposed to be installed please? in the ~/.thunderbird or should just config files should be in there?
[14:04] <sacarlson> magicJ: maybe can't fix but make if fix faster by changing the time that dhcpd lisence expires  in a shorter window of time
[14:04] <graingert> StepNjump: just config files
[14:04] <jrib> StepNjump: use the repositories
[14:04] <arafangion> graingert: A difference, perhaps, is that here, I joined after you, but in bitcoin, you joined after me.
[14:04] <jrib> !software | StepNjump
[14:04] <magicJ> sacarlson: Sounds interesting, please explain more
[14:04] <myhero> hii all
[14:05] <graingert> arafangion: nope
[14:05] <Lokireloaded> G'day.
[14:05] <myhero> how to run cd/dvd drive cleaning dvd in ubuntu
[14:05] <bekks> Insert it. Wait. Pull it out again.
[14:05] <sacarlson> magicJ: you should be able to login to the modem and change the license time to expire,  all adsl are different so I can't give much detail
[14:06] <myhero> banshee is not opening it....n there is no program associated with it to open it.....movie player is saying permission denied.....how to run movie player with root priviledges to run cd/dvd drive cleaning dvd
[14:06] <sacarlson> magicJ: like 900 secounds
[14:07] <magicJ> sacarlson: I am missing how this will hep - the router is re-booted so any existing lease would be gone anyway - so please explain what I  am missing
[14:07] <yandex237891> myhero: You shouldn't need to use root priviledges
[14:07] <sacarlson> magicJ: yes but you system won't try to update until it expires
[14:07] <bekks> myhero: a cleaning dvd does not contain cool music.
[14:07] <myhero> but movie player is saying needs priviledges n permission denied
[14:07] <satyanash> bekks,
[14:07] <bobweaver> Hello there does anyone know of the name of the program that is running when installing ubuntuserver. Like the pick you language keyboard ect.
[14:07] <Dr_willis> myhero,  you mean one of those disks with a brush?
[14:07] <satyanash> bekks, lol
[14:07] <myhero> yea but it has many tracks to be played at certain pattern n time
[14:08] <sacarlson> magicJ: or is this wifi?
[14:08] <bobweaver> the purple background with questions ^^
[14:08] <bekks> It contains a little eraser to clean the lense - thats all.
[14:08] <magicJ> sacarlson: so you are suggesting that the lease time that is there when it starts is passed to the linux machine and it will renew at that time, correct?
[14:08] <bekks> myhero: Thats nonsense. Playing audio technically CANT clean anything in that device.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> myhero,  never seen one of those... as far as i know you just pop it in and it spins up and cleans...
[14:08] <bekks> Not even the inner side of the cables.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> then you remove it..
[14:08] <myhero> yea...all the cleaning dvd's contain few traks to be played at certain intervals.
[14:08] <yandex237891> bekks: Actually, they usually jump between audio tracks to move the laser onto the fixed position of the brushes
[14:08] <sacarlson> magicj: yes when it's time has expired it will try and get a new a new lease expire from the dhcpd
[14:09] <myhero> yes now you are rght
[14:09] <Dr_willis> all the cleaning disks ive ver seen are bacially gimics that rarely seem to clean anything.
[14:09] <sacarlson> magicJ: and remind you this is only a guess
[14:09] <yandex237891> Dr_willis: How is a gimic to use microbrushes to wipe clean the laser? I've had them fix CD drives in the past.   I assumed that the lease just expired on  the router
[14:09] <myhero> i hve moser baer n phillips so must b of standard quality rest cant say
[14:10] <Dr_willis> yandex237891,  i recall articals ages past saying they did more damage then good.
[14:10] <magicJ> sacarlson: its not a bad idea to try - I like the idea -  worth a try
[14:10] <Dr_willis> yandex237891,  a can of compressed air is what was recommended back then.
[14:10] <yandex237891> Dr_willis: I read an article stating that compressed air could disrupt the mechanical motor
[14:10] <Dr_willis> but this is a better topic for #hardware
[14:10] <sacarlson> magicJ: well I watch the trafic and see that the client is the one that need to try to get a lease before any are given,  I don't see the dhcpd send any thing to the client telling him it expired
[14:11] <myhero> in windows it gives instructions to play tracks one after other so as to clean at diff positions...
[14:11] <blotek> Vodka is the best one for CD cleaning :D
[14:11] <yandex237891> myhero: Run it in Windows then
[14:11] <Dr_willis> blotek,  just dont use WD-40
[14:12] <myhero> u joking....or u serious....vodka...wtf
[14:12] <blotek> isopropylen/vodka
[14:12] <blotek> im serious
[14:12] <myhero> i dont hve windows.....m running ubuntu live
[14:12] <Dr_willis> blotek,  not cleaning the cd's - cleaning the drive...
[14:12] <blotek> ye i mean drive;p
[14:12] <yandex237891> myhero: Windows can easily be obtained from sites such as the Pirate Bay
[14:12] <myhero> thats isoporol alcohol
[14:13] <myhero> yea but i dont hve hdd...coz my hdd is out for windows recovery
[14:13] <StepNjump> graingert: and jrib I am trying to install from a compressed file for xyz reasons... Where should I install it? /opt?
[14:13] <blotek> isopropyl alcohol actually ;p
[14:13] <graingert> StepNjump: why?
[14:13] <graingert> StepNjump: why not use the PPA
[14:14] <blotek> but vodka is better because of 2 things = 1st it's avaible in every shop next to u 2nd u can drink rest of it since u need just a little bit;p
[14:15] <Dr_willis> 'honest mom - its for my pc!'
[14:15] <myhero> yea i meant that only
[14:15] <graingert> StepNjump: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-next
[14:15] <arafangion> Why does this channel have three 'floodbots'?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> arafangion,  in case one needs to call for backup. :)
[14:16] <Dr_willis> or netsplits
[14:16] <yandex237891> I wish new versions of software was easier in Ubuntu, instead of ppa's everywhere. We need to catch up with Mac/Windows
[14:16] <arafangion> Didn't consider netsplits, but aren't they usually short?
[14:16] <arafangion> Although they're increasonly frequent. :(
[14:16] <graingert> yandex237891: no, Mac and Windows are catching up on us
[14:16] <Dr_willis> arafangion,  depends.  - i dont find them that frequent.. but ive irc'd for years.. used to be way more common.
[14:17] <graingert> they are both turning to App Repos
[14:17] <graingert> yandex237891: App Repos are a safer way to install and upgrade applications
[14:17] <sacarlson> magicJ: I guess I should have added you can get a renewed license before your dhcpd time expires with the command  sudo dhclient eth0 ;
[14:17] <arafangion> Dr_willis: They seemed to be smaller then.
[14:17] <Dr_willis> graingert,  yep. :) pointed that out to some wundows users at work the other day.
[14:17] <arafangion> Dr_willis: Must just be my memory.
[14:17] <Dr_willis> arafangion,  back when 100 people in a channel was huge.. not 3000+
[14:17] <graingert> ubuntu does need sandboxing though
[14:18] <skurcey> I have a weird problem with my logitech USB mouse 5 buttons, i tried "xinput list" and it s listed twice. One button doesnt work
[14:18] <Dr_willis> I just hope the software center does not become the disaster the android-market  is becoming.
[14:18] <yandex237891> graingert: You're deluded. A single installer will work across multiple versions of Windows. Each version of Ubuntu requires a separate ppa. And once the two years of support is up for most distros, you're fucked to find a ppa anymore
[14:18] <magicJ> sacarlson: it is wired - and I like the idea - if the lease length is passed to the client when we connect then this will work fine - and I do think you may have this
[14:18] <graingert> because currently all apps I have installed can read my bitcoin wallet
[14:18] <ericl_> play
[14:18] <graingert> yandex237891: no you upgrade to the next version