[05:42] <zcot1> is 16.10 a good candidate to upgrade to 17, or should it be a straight install?
[05:43] <xangua> Well you have to upgrade at some time
[09:48] <stardust95> Hello !
[09:51] <stardust95> I have a wi-fi problem with xubuntu 17.04 32 bits, its a RTL8187B dongle, it can detect AP's but can't connect to them, it used to work in a fresh install of xubuntu 16.10 and in live usb, but with 17.04 in a fresh install or live usb it doesn't work.
[09:52] <stardust95> dmesg shows this :
[09:53] <stardust95> https://pastebin.com/Rj2rpAkv
[11:11] <stevehope> There is a related bug report discussion here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/872578
[11:37] <stardust95> thank you stevehope, i didn't find this bg report while googling
[11:38] <stevehope> you're welcome I don't know the subject well enough to provide advice
[11:42] <stevehope> as a general search strategy I use as much of the error (only) as possible, in this case "local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)"
[11:42] <stardust95> yeah that's what iwas trying to do when i was waiting for an answer
[11:42] <stevehope> :)
[11:44] <stardust95> in fact i ask it here because it's something that occur on fresh install for a chip that should work out of the box, so i expected that someone else could confirm this problem
[11:45] <stevehope> please file a bug against it, even if you resolve it
[11:46] <stardust95> before doing this i wanted to be sure that it wasn't something i could resolve by myself
[11:46] <knome> or if it's the exact same bug as mentioned above, comment on the existing bug
[11:46] <stevehope> ^
[11:46] <stardust95> i read the above link, and it talks about disconnections after some minutes, whereas i can't connect at all to APs
[11:46] <stardust95> i'll google a bit more
[11:47] <stardust95> thx for your advices anyway
[11:47] <stevehope> I'm not sure if it;s the same scenario
[11:48] <stevehope> I read that too, and think your issue may have a different cause and resolution
[11:48] <stardust95> yes
[11:48] <flux242> i'll ask here too as nobody answers on the xfce channel
[11:49] <flux242> hi, there's a notification logging page now in the xfce4-notifyd. So how do I show visual notifications from the volumed and skip logging them? Or more generally - how to disable logging for specific application without disabling their visual notifications?
[11:52] <stardust95> you should already know it but did you take a look at xfce4-notifyd-config program ?
[11:52] <stardust95> i don't know much about this
[11:55] <flux242> that's the app i'm talkin about
[11:55] <stardust95> oh ok
[11:58] <stevehope> stardust95 which iso are you working with? and what type of hardware?
[12:00] <stardust95> @stevehope xubuntu 17.04 i386
[12:00] <flux242> if i understand it correct it's not possible. Then I must say that this is the most stupid ui implmentation possible to log notifications because it's not usable
[12:02] <stardust95> @stevehope the dongle is an old trendnet, with rtl8187b chip
[12:03] <stardust95> computer is a pentium 4, sis sf2-661fx v2 motherboard
[12:03] <stardust95> don't know what much i can tell
[12:04] <stardust95> i tried to connect to my android in ap mode to see if it was an incompatibility with my router
[12:04] <stardust95> didn't work
[12:04] <stardust95> worked with my android in usb thether mode
[12:04] <stardust95> i'll try another dongle
[12:10] <stardust95> the dongle works on my arch linux laptop
[12:10] <stardust95> i tried another dongle on my xubuntu 17.04 i386 and it doesn't work
[12:10] <stevehope> is the dongle driver 64bit?
[12:11] <stardust95> no why ?
[12:12] <stardust95> the dongle was bout at windows xp time i guess, and it worked out of the box in xubuntu 16.10
[12:12] <stardust95> bought*
[12:12] <stardust95> i made a clean install of xubuntu 17.04
[12:12] <stardust95> can't connect with any dongle, but can detect APs
[12:13] <stardust95> during install i confirmed the installation of proprietary drivers
[12:13] <stardust95> and the kernel module rtl8187 is loaded
[12:13] <stardust95> so it should be a network manager problem
[12:14] <stevehope> i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know
[12:14] <stardust95> what's the difference with the 64bits version?$
[12:15] <stardust95> i mean what do you know about the 64 bits version ?
[12:17] <stardust95> on google i found posts talking about crda settings but when changing the region to mine and rebooting it still does not work
[12:17] <stevehope> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[12:17] <stardust95> owh i know that ahahah
[12:19] <stardust95> i meant why couldn't you help the same way for 32 bits, its just a matter of compilation isn't it ? programs are rather the same
[12:21] <stevehope> I offered the little help I could, pointing out the related bug discussion, if I knew how to resolve your issue I would tell you
[12:22] <stardust95> no it's just i don't understand your sentence "i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know"
[12:23] <stardust95> thank you for your help
[12:25] <stevehope> My thinking was a possible root cause was a mixture of 32bit and 64bit os/drivers, specifically a 64bit driver on your 32bit OS
[12:25] <stardust95> ok i understand now
[12:26] <stardust95> but as it is a fresh install, could there already be 64 bits drivers in the OS ?
[12:26] <stevehope> the package for i386 ISO, and scripts, etc, are different than the amd64 (64bit) version
[12:27] <stardust95> ok i then should try the dongle with both i386 and amd64 isos on my 64 bits laptop
[12:28] <stevehope> if you want to check if your hardware can use 64bit:
[12:28] <stevehope> grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo
[12:28] <stevehope> if it returns lm  you ok for 64bit
[12:28] <stardust95> it's a intel pentium 4 socket 478 so i think it cannot but i'll check
[12:30] <stevehope> lm = long mode
[12:30] <stardust95> it returns nothing
[12:31] <stardust95> so i'll just have to try those 2 isos on my current laptop
[12:31] <stevehope> well your deffinately 32 bit then
[12:31] <stardust95> yeah
[12:31] <stevehope> run the same on the other computer the donble is working with
[12:32] <stardust95> so to recap it all : i have 2 different dongles, none can connect to APs but can detect APs, those two work on my arch linux 64 bit laptop
[12:33] <stevehope> sorry I meant check the installed os not hardware
[12:33] <stardust95> so ill  try both 32 et 64 bits xubuntu isos on this laptop
[12:34] <stevehope> 64bit will not work on a machine that does not return 'lm' from grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo
[12:34] <stardust95> yes ?
[12:34] <stevehope> was confused by 'this laptop'
[12:35] <stardust95> owh sorry
[12:35] <stardust95> pc = pentium 4 32 bits
[12:35] <stardust95> laptop = intel i5 64 bits
[12:36] <stardust95> pc runs on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits and encounter the problem
[12:36] <stevehope> ah ok lol :P
[12:36] <stardust95> laptop no problems at all
[12:36] <stardust95> i agree i wasn't clear
[12:37] <stardust95> so you agree that i just can try the two isos on my laptop now ?
[12:38] <stardust95> especially the 32 bits one
[12:39] <stevehope> i would suggest you install the ISO to a usb, do a live session instead of install, check results, if all clear install (on the laptop i'ld strongly recommend 64bit, unless you have a compelling reason to use 32
[12:40] <stardust95> i meant trying both as live usb
[12:40] <stardust95> coe for the pc pentium 4, even in live usb i couldn't connect to APs
[12:40] <stardust95> coz*
[12:41] <stardust95> my laptop as no pb, i'm writing to you with it XD
[12:41] <stevehope> by booting from USB, you are safe to do a live session with any Ubuntu family to try them, without changing installed version
[12:41] <stardust95> yeah i know all that XD
[12:41] <stardust95> i was asking if it was the last tests i could do to solve the pb
[12:42] <stardust95> were*
[12:42] <stardust95> anyway i'll check it out, i'l come back to tell you the results thanks for your help
[12:43] <stevehope> welcome
[13:08] <stardust95> i'm back
[13:08] <stardust95> same problem on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits on my 64 bits laptop
[13:08] <stardust95> neither of my dongles can connect to APs,
[13:09] <stardust95> the inbuilt wifi card can
[15:34] <stardust95> I just came back to say that the problem occur on xubuntu 17.04 64 bits too
[15:35] <stardust95> integrated wifi cards works, the usb wifi dongles see APs but can't connect
[16:12] <antimist> I hope someone's up
[16:12] <antimist> anyway, so, I just upgraded from XUbuntu 16.04 to 16.10
[16:12] <antimist> and hoping to upgrade to 17.04
[16:13] <antimist> unfortunately after reaching 16.04
[16:13] <antimist> My GTK apps, like Gnome-terminal, firefox, and synaptic
[16:13] <antimist> seem to have weird GUI problems
[16:13] <antimist> any help
[16:18] <antimist> anyway, I found my problem, it was a problem with the theme
[16:18] <antimist> probably some compile thing, carried over from 16.04
[17:22] <Guest2806> How accessible is Xubuntu for blind Users?
[17:24] <xubuntu01w> looking for some help. Trying to install xubuntu on a virtualbox ( oracle VM) i tryed diffrent iso of xubuntu 17.04 but every time at the end i get a crash
[17:26] <xubuntu01w> after the crash it does boot with a error on whisker
[17:35] <xangua> Guest2806: I imagine the same as gnome, xubuntu includes orca
[17:37] <Guest2806> But I can't activate the Screenreader, the Shortcut alt+super+S doesn't work. What can I do?
[19:47] <logan0405> Hi I'm on Xubuntu 17.04 freshly installed over my Ubuntu setup, I'm trying to get a shared wifi hotspot to work like it did on Ubuntu, but it keeps saying 'Disconnected' when I try to fire it up
[19:49] <diogenes_> try with kde nm connection editor
[19:51] <logan0405> Yeah it's probably the manager I'm using is different from Ubuntu's. Would you happen to know which one Ubuntu uses? I know how to use that one quite well
[19:53] <diogenes_> that one works fine, ubuntu's one is buggy
[19:53] <knome> however installing kde applications means you'll also install a lot of dependencies
[19:54] <diogenes_> not that much
[19:55] <logan0405> weird I think both Ubuntu and Xubuntu 17.04 are using nm-applet. Must be a different version I have never had a problem with it
[19:56] <knome> logan0405, if the wifi has a password, try setting it up (edit connetions... -> add) before connecting
[19:56] <logan0405> I'm trying to create a shared wifi hotspot. It's the 'nm-connection-editor' application giving me trouble
[19:57] <diogenes_> the first ever bug to discover with every new ubuntu release, it's a network manager bug
[19:58] <knome> diogenes_, can we please stop the negativity and start working on the solution?
[19:58] <logan0405> ah is 17.04 still unstable? I wanted the new kernel as I would have to upgrade it anyway because of my hardware
[19:59] <knome> 17.04 is released, so shoudln't be unstable; if you need total stability you should always use the LTS's though
[19:59] <diogenes_> knome, what negativity? bare facts, when ubuntu 16.04 was released there was a huge bug in network
[20:00] <diogenes_> it was fixed only with 16.04.02 I guess
[20:00] <diogenes_> and besides I already gave my solution
[20:01] <logan0405> how can I install kde's diogenes_ ? I tried  sudo apt-get install kde5-nm-connection-editor
[20:01] <logan0405> not found
[20:01] <diogenes_> logan0405, wait I'll find the repository
[20:03] <diogenes_> logan0405, here (not sure it will work with 17 but worth trying): http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/share-internet-with-android-ubuntu-1404/
[21:53] <Lavinho> good night
[21:53] <Lavinho> rtl872bs xubuntu 17.04 not working
[21:53] <Lavinho> help me
[21:53] <Lavinho> please
[21:54] <Lavinho> rtl8723bs


[01:28] <ojwb> for those in wlg, I have a forwarded mail from the british high commission who are relocating uk tourists from chch to wlg today, and seeking people willing to provide a spare room in case they can't find enough hotel rooms
[01:28] <ojwb> pm me your email address if you want me to forward it
[19:08] <Atamira> ,prmom
[19:08] <Atamira> mornin
[19:09] <ajmitch> morning
[19:09] <ibeardslee> oh yeah morning
[19:09] <ajmitch> don't worry, I very nearly hit enter after typing nirbubg :)
[19:09] <ajmitch> need caffeine
[19:10] <ibeardslee> on my way to work I stop off at Mojo across the street .. except today, they weren't open yet
[19:11] <ajmitch> headed to work too early?
[19:11] <ibeardslee> carried on to work and headed back out later fort he fix .. I overheard the staff talking about the person that was supposed to open at 7 was still asleep
[19:11] <ajmitch> oops
[19:12] <ibeardslee> yeah, the irresponsiblity .. how many routines have been shattered from not getting the morning coffee?
[19:14] <ajmitch> ah, no wonder I can't ssh to my laptop...
[19:14]  * ajmitch plugs in network cable
[19:26] <ibeardslee> another coffee?
[19:26] <ajmitch> that's a great idea
[19:30] <Atamira> we're lucky. we have a coffee maker at work
[19:30] <Atamira> tho im sure the lady who does the office supplies is getting decaf coffee
[19:30] <ibeardslee> heh
[19:31] <ibeardslee> we have two of them here .. plus 3 places < 30m away
[19:32] <ibeardslee> .. where 30 hasn't actually been measured
[19:32] <Atamira> heh
[19:32] <Atamira> im so tired
[19:33] <Atamira> we're really busy as a result of the quake
[19:33] <Atamira> im gonna sleep in my bed instead of t his chair this time
[19:33] <Atamira> nite all
[22:19] <thumper> morning


[21:54] <akash> and i have to install a patch
[21:54] <hash> anyone know the freenode  server info i.e. Title, Host, and port trying to connect over my android
[21:55] <RealEyes> LFS lol
[21:55] <DarwinSurvivor> simplew: on a 64bit machine, replace "sudo apt-get install some_package" with "sudo apt-get install some_package:i386"
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> narctix: most desktop linuxes are linux out of the box..
[21:55] <akash> but everytime i do it i get an error message saying aks your administrator to install it
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hash: do you mean for IRC?
[21:55] <DarwinSurvivor> hash: best ask in the #freenode channel
[21:55] <simplew> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:55] <simplew>  libkactivities6:i386 : Depends: libkdecore5:i386 (>= 4:4.8.1) but it is not going to be installed
[21:55] <simplew>                         Depends: libkactivities-bin:i386 (= 4:4.8.2-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[21:55] <simplew> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:55] <akash> anyideas on how i can install the patch?
[21:55] <akash> patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-4.6.2-cross_compile-1.patch
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hash: title is whatever you want, host is irc.freenode.net port is 6667
[21:55] <akash> thats the line
[21:55] <wylde> hash: it's an open proxy checker.
[21:56] <Joe42> DarwinSurvivor: yes im able to log in as a second user but unity is also missing there
[21:56] <DarwinSurvivor> simplew: please use paste.ubuntu.com for multi-line output
[21:56] <narctix> actionparsnip not with all the non open source stuff they aint
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> simplew: then install the dep it needs
[21:56] <simplew> DarwinSurvivor: ok
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> narctix: how do you mean?
[21:56] <simplew> ActionParsnip: apt is not isntalling the deps, it refuses
[21:56] <wylde> hash: I've already looked into it. It's freenode making sure there are no open proxies on your machine. If there are you won't be allowed to connect.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> simplew: then grab the debs yourself and install them
[21:56] <narctix> actionparsnip nvidia or other gfx drivers flash etc
[21:56] <hash> cool thank you
[21:56] <DarwinSurvivor> !purge | Joe42
[21:56] <bennypr0fane> xangua I have lxde on Suse and I have to say I'm not happy, but it's hard to tell how much of the problems is to blame on Suse opn how much on Lxde
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> narctix: video drivers are easily installed in many Linuxes, flash isn't hard to install either
[21:57] <akash> any ideas realeyes?
[21:57] <RealEyes> LFS is such a pain
[21:57] <simplew> ActionParsnip: grab what? apt-get does it, and hes refusing to install, seams that even me (that im new to deb system) can understand more than you
[21:57] <RealEyes> Im not sure there is a freenode channel.
[21:57] <goggu> My HDMI monitor loses the edges of the Unity Desktop. I can't click any buttons.
[21:57] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: please uninstall unity and comiz, then run the purge command quoted by ubottu. You may want to install a secondary Desktop Environment (ex: kde, xfce, etc) while doing so
[21:57] <akash> well i've been able to get through most of it it just messes up cuz none of the patches install
[21:57] <narctix> actionparsnip didnt say was hard just takes longer when you work with Linux every day and install it every day the less config the better
[21:58] <akash> patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-4.6.2-cross_compile-1.patch
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> simplew: go to the internet and download the deb file you need and install it, apt will then see the dependency being met and install
[21:58] <akash> thats the line
[21:58] <akash> and i get this error
[21:58] <akash> lfs@ubuntu:/mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-4.6.2$ patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-4.6.2-cross_compile-1.patch
[21:58] <akash> The program 'patch' is currently not installed.  To run 'patch' please ask your administrator to install the package 'patch'
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> narctix: depends which distribution really
[21:58] <simplew> ActionParsnip: go rean apt-get manul, he does it through the repos
 i have gnome would that work?
[21:58] <simplew> s/rean/read
[21:58] <DarwinSurvivor> !paste
[21:58] <hash> wylde do u mean the sasl access message
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> simplew: could try gdebi
[21:59] <simplew> ActionParsnip: apt-get does it
[21:59] <narctix> actionparsnip I find ubunt do the install then ubuntu-restricted-extras done
[21:59] <Joe42> also should i uninstall with apg-get remove or apt-get purge?
[21:59] <persona> my monitor settings wont save  ati and its a laptop when i use hdmi it resets to cloning every time is there a way to make it stay at multi desktop and preferably 1080 for the hdmi screen when i plug it in? using unity for a desktop environment.
[21:59] <bennypr0fane> xangua anyway I'm gettign suspicious that the more mainstream an install (i.e. using default options for everythign), the less likely I'll be to run into problems...)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> narctix: that may give you issues with flash, you need to  enable partner repo for 64bit flash niceness
[21:59] <hash> this might be a stupid question do u need punctuation after a name to make it show up yellow
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> simplew: well it's not, is it
[21:59] <wylde> hash: it was showing connect attempts to my server here, from a freenode address. Moment I'll copy a line from the log to show you.
[21:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: yes, that will work
[21:59] <OccupyDemonoid> Is there a way to bind a key to open up my music program once pressed? I have a music key on my keyboard that does nothing at all.
[21:59] <simplew> seams theres no one with experience to clarify
[21:59] <Joe42> DarwinSurvivor
[22:00] <narctix> actionparsnip I was exampling a nice quick setup
[22:00] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: please log in as gnome before running the commands - best not to uninstall something that is running :P
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> simplew: Mint for example has all the stuff already in the CD, no need for any extra effor
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> narctix: ^
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> simplew: wrong target, sorry
[22:00] <narctix> actionparsnip I mainly use gentoo slackware or do server installs with RH centos and Fedora
[22:00] <DarwinSurvivor> simplew: if you continue to insult those attempting to help you, you will find that they will *quickly* cease attempting to help you
[22:00] <bennypr0fane> xangua so I figured I best get regular Ubuntu with its default desktop...
[22:00] <Joe42> DarwinSurvivor: oh ok, and how can i log out using the terminal ive been rebooting mi computer ever since
[22:00] <xangua> OccupyDemonoid: you can add the music player you want to unity launcher and just use super+number of the position in the launcher
[22:01] <simplew> DarwinSurvivor: the way you help its also insulting
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> narctix: for simple setup, i'd always go for xpud
[22:01] <OccupyDemonoid> xangua, I didn't even think of that. Thank you.
[22:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: I believ Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will get you back to the login screen. from there select a gnome session and log in with that
[22:01] <simplew> i think its better to go back iato some real distro like fedora, opensuse, mandriva, mage
[22:02] <OccupyDemonoid> Joe42, Hit control+alt+delete. That is how I log out.
[22:02] <narctix> actionparsnip Im not here for support
[22:02] <Joe42> DarwinSurvivor: ok thanks il be back in a whyle
[22:02] <zowsz_> [NickServ] Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email-address>
[22:02] <akash> so can anyone help me at all
[22:02] <akash> ?
[22:02] <wylde> hash: <IP_ADDRESS> - - [19/Apr/2012:10:15:52 -0400] "CONNECT <IP_ADDRESS>:31204 HTTP/1.0" 403 389 "-" "-" <--- took me a while to find, once I found what it was I configured my logs to ignore it.
[22:02] <DarwinSurvivor> simplew: you have been told multiple times how to resolve the issue you have asked and are beginning to become an nuissance. If the solution you were given did not work, please use paste.ubuntu.com to show any error messages you received while attempting said solution
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> akash: what is your issue?
[22:03] <akash> ive been doing lfs
[22:03] <narctix> actionparsnip xpud looks intresting though
[22:03] <akash> and when i install a patch i get this error
[22:03] <akash> lfs@ubuntu:/mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-4.6.2$ patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-4.6.2-cross_compile-1.patch
[22:03] <akash> The program 'patch' is currently not installed.  To run 'patch' please ask your administrator to install the package 'patch'
[22:03] <conradzz> if I were to be getting hard freezes, how would I go about narrowing down what it is?
[22:03] <hash> i keep getting a sasl error
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> akash: sudo apt-get install patch
[22:03] <akash> i have the patch in a folder
[22:03] <ring1> ActionParsnip, fyi: gnome-panel will be around as long as necessary, which means once most computers should be capable of running gnome-shell (f.e. using llvmpipe) it won't be maintained anymore (at least not by the current maintainers)
[22:03] <akash> patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-4.6.2-cross_compile-1.patch
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> akash: yes but you need the patch program so you can run the command 'patch#
[22:04] <akash> thats the line im suppose to use
[22:04] <DarwinSurvivor> akash: it's not the patch that is missing, it is the "patch program" that *performs* the patches that is missing (the error is a little confusing)
[22:04] <goggu> My HDMI monitor shows too large a screen, I can't click buttons.
[22:04] <TemporaryName123> ActionParsnip, that command that you gave me worked, tyvm.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> ring1: gotcha
[22:04] <Joe42> how can i open tomboy from the terminal so i can write down the commando
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> TemporaryName123: np
[22:04] <akash> so i type in that line you gave me
[22:04] <Joe42> command+
[22:04] <akash> then the one in the book?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> TemporaryName123: I suggest you backup that file for if you need to reinstall
[22:04] <wylde> hash: you coould check with the folks in #freenode if you're concerned. :)
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> akash: yes, your system doesn't have the command 'patch'
[22:04] <narctix> whats the ubuntu chat channel?
[22:04] <TemporaryName123> ActionParsnip, will do :)
[22:04] <persona> goggu: its a setting on the monitor to change aspect/picture size or it was for me tvs read sizes differently
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> narctix: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <narctix> ty
[22:05] <DarwinSurvivor> !ot
[22:05] <goggu> thamks persona
[22:05] <akash> lfs@ubuntu:/mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-4.6.2$  apt-get install patch
[22:05] <akash> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[22:05] <akash> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[22:05] <akash> i get that error
[22:05] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: are you currently logged into gnome?
[22:06] <xangua> !enter | akash
[22:06] <xangua> use sudo akash
[22:06] <goggu>  Thanks Persona: I forgot the dumbest stuff
[22:06] <Joe42> no im currently into unity without the launcher and im running everything from the terminal
[22:06] <narctix> sudo apt-get
[22:06] <akash> i did and it asks for the password and i type in the correct one but it doesnt work
[22:06] <Joe42> but i tried tomboy and it did not load, and tomboy-notes and it did not load either
[22:06] <persona> goggu: did you read my issue lol
[22:06] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: you should not run these commands from within unity as removing unity (while it is running) could cause your session to crash.
[22:06] <hash> eh ill get it figured out eventually its not really a need just a want
[22:06] <endtype> i have a quesion about the ubuntu windows installer: when it asks me for the installation size, is that the size of the partition it's going to make? or is it going to install over my windows os...cuz  i wanna dual boot
[22:07] <persona> goggu: yeah its pretty easy though to fix that bit took me a while to find the option
[22:07] <narctix> akash your password sounds wron what does sudo passwd then change password resolve in?
[22:07] <hash> dual boot uis a pain
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> endtype: that is the size of the file on your NTFS which will be used as the ubuntu 'disk'
[22:07] <DarwinSurvivor> !dualboot | endtype
 rigth, and i wont, but before i go to gnome i want to wirte down the command he gave me, and its better copy past to keep the exact same command
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> endtype: the more you assign, the more space ubuntu will be given but it will take more of your NTFS partition up
[22:08] <akash> lfs@ubuntu:/mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-4.6.2$ sudo apt-get install patch
[22:08] <akash> [sudo] password for lfs:
[22:08] <akash> lfs is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[22:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: actually, just run "gnome-shell --replace", then you don't have to log out :)
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> akash: then you will need an admin to install the package for you as you are not in the admin group
[22:08] <wylde> akash: then that user doesn't have sudo access.
[22:08] <akash> kk
[22:08] <Joe42> oh ok thanks
[22:08] <akash> so how do you switch back to your original user ?:S
[22:09] <Joe42> ok it said violation of the gement core
[22:09] <hash> endtype: if u can boot from usb id recommend a install on that less to go wrong
[22:09] <narctix> akash if your ding lfs you shouldnt be root and should be chrooted to the lfs user and not need root access as root is your home
[22:09] <Joe42> segment
[22:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: ok, that is bad, it means something segfaulted.
[22:09] <hash> endtype: as long as u have an external
[22:09] <Joe42> wich means...
[22:09] <celthunder> akash: su >user<
[22:10] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: it's a means a program tried to read memory it wasn't allowed to read (usually a programming bug, but often triggered by corruption)
[22:10] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: is this a recent install?
[22:10] <endtype> i'm using wubi btw
[22:10] <Joe42> mmm not recent i mean couple of weeks old
[22:10] <Joe42> ever since the 12.04 came out, i did the update
[22:10] <endtype> if that makes any diff??? cuz i'd assume wubi would partition by default
[22:11] <hash> yeah i used wubi and it messed up my mbr
[22:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: did you update using update manager or using a cd/usb?
[22:11] <akash> ughh it wont work :(
[22:11] <Joe42> update manager
[22:11] <goggu> persona: missed your issue. not a major irc person.  i can tell  you that my wife or dogs would take a long time to make your suggestion.
[22:11] <DarwinSurvivor> endtype: wubi does not do partitioning or dual-boot. it is sort of like an all-in-one virtual machine that allows you to run ubuntu as if it were a windows application.
[22:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: can you run "sudo apt-get update" and tell me if there are any errors?
[22:12] <Joe42> sure
[22:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: if there are, please copy/paste the entire output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:13] <hash> wubi was allowing me to partition inside my windows drive and add a boot option to chose windows or ubuntu
[22:13] <Joe42> DarwinSurvivor: and then send you the link?
[22:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: yes please
[22:13] <Joe42> ok will do
[22:15] <remlabm> hey guys, just installed 12.04 64bit. Ran updates and Additional Drivers. Now i keep getting a black screen with panic. Any ideas on how to figure wth is going on?
[22:15] <endtype> DarwinSurvivor: so is it basically an application i can click to open up a virtual machine that runs ubuntu?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> remlabm: what video chip do you use?
[22:16] <Joe42> i did not saw any errors but i pasted anywat http://paste.ubuntu.com/986272/
[22:16] <Joe42> anyway
[22:16] <DarwinSurvivor> endtype: pretty much. I've never used it myself since I've been a regular linux user since before wubi was created.
[22:16] <remlabm> Nvidia Geforce 8600 - I didnt update that yet though
[22:16] <narctix> remlabm your kernel has panicd whats the last 2 lines say?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> remlabm: use the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:17] <remlabm> CPU - | Modules linked in : michael_mic arc1 ..... bunch of module listings
[22:17] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: do you get any errors when using gnome or is it only unity that is experiencing problems?
[22:17] <remlabm> ActionParsnip: Ok ill do that, what is nouveau driver?
[22:18] <narctix> nouveau is open source nvidia
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> remlabm: open source nvidia driver, some chips like it, some don't
[22:18] <Joe42> yup only unity, but like i said earlier i re-instaled unity today, several times
[22:18] <remlabm> so do you recommend the drivers in additional hardware or should i install the ones from nvidia.com?
[22:19] <hash> endtype: all i can say is i used wubi to install on my windows drive and it messed up my mbr had to fix it with the windows disk and now when i start windows it gives me the option for win 7 or ubuntu which has no anything
[22:19] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: ok, what *exactly* happened when you ran "gnome-shell --replace"? please describe what you saw and pastebin any output you got in the terminal
[22:19] <narctix> remlabm what were the last 2 lines of your kernel panic
[22:19] <Joe42> ok just a sec
[22:19] <hash> the ubuntu option
[22:20] <Joe42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/986276/
[22:20] <stars69> hi anyone here run eggdrop under 12.04?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip>            remlabm get the one from additional drivers, they ARE the nvidia drivers just packaged nice to gel with your OS
[22:20] <hash> endtype: imo the easiest way to do it is with an external something small like a 50 g should be more then plenty
[22:20] <Joe42> thats what happened and, well i just got that it did not worked but again i can log out, log back in and try from gnome
[22:21] <endtype> for the iso
[22:21] <DarwinSurvivor> alright, then you will need to log out and then log into gnome-shell directly (using the gear icon in the login manager)
[22:21] <Joe42> i have a lot of running applications rigth now so it could be th
[22:21] <Joe42> that
[22:21] <hash> huh
[22:21] <endtype> can i just mount it on a virtual drive and run it
[22:21] <hash> u can run the iso off daemon tools lite
[22:21] <endtype> sweet
[22:21] <hash> runs like a live cd
[22:21] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: lots of applications should never cause a segfault, it will just eat up more ram and slow down a little (if you run out of ram/cpu)
[22:22] <hash> idk about installing it off an iso using daemon tool
[22:22] <narctix> yeah the box should just crash coz swap is maxed
[22:22] <Joe42> i dont think i just got a web browser and this window
[22:22] <narctix> not segfault
[22:23] <Joe42> now, i donwloaded the ubuntu 12.04 iso file
[22:23] <narctix> could report a segfault though
[22:23] <Joe42> i was planning on burning it and instaling everything again,
[22:23] <ironmagma> Hello, my server's fully qualified domain name seems to be wrong; `hostname --fqdn` just produces the hostname (in /etc/hostname) instead of the fqdn. What should I do to fix this?
[22:23] <Joe42> i could back up the inportant files on the cloud and that would be it
[22:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: if that's not a big problem for you, then it may be the best course of action. It sounds to me like "something" is corrupted. either a package or a configuration (in /etc) somewhere.
[22:24] <narctix> hostname needs to be set to a fqd
[22:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: I would also recommend a local (other computer in your hous or ext. drive) backup just in case you lose access to your cloud drive for what-ever reason
[22:25] <Joe42> ok then i guess il try that then
[22:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Joe42: alright
[22:25] <llliii> anyone tell if i can change the luks password later on after installing with whole disk encryption ?
[22:25] <Joe42> i mean my computer is completley functional in gnome but i like unity better
[22:26] <DarwinSurvivor> there is some more troubleshooting we could do, but if you think you can do a reinstall in fairly short order, it may be faster to go that route
[22:26] <Joe42> so il guess il go with that, thanks
[22:27] <narctix> reinstalls the reason roll backs and backups exist!
[22:28] <jacobwg> Does anyone know how to change the default gateway interface on Ubuntu server?
[22:28] <jpsman> this is more of a nix question but you guys like a challenge right?  Is it possible to scan a directory for a certain hex value BESIDES hexdump -c * | grep ab\ cd ??????
[22:28] <whateverdude> anyone using any version of ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[22:28] <jacobwg> My laptop is connected to wifi (Internet) and wired (LAN), but the default route keeps being set to the wired connection.
[22:28] <bastidrazor> jacobwg: #ubuntu-server may be of help.
[22:28] <jacobwg> bastidrazor: thanks!
[22:29] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: searching for a file with a certain value in its name, or in its contents?
[22:29] <jacobwg> bastidrazor: I really just need the terminal version of the commands - nothing really terminal specific
[22:29] <jacobwg> *server specific
[22:29] <jpsman> DarwinSurvivor, contents but HEX content not just text
[22:29] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: if you can escape the hex values, you can simply use grep
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> jpsman: could ask in #bash too
[22:30] <jpsman> what like grep \xab *  ?
[22:31] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: I think so, there's one way to find out :)
[22:31] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: is there any particular reason you don't want to use hexdump?
[22:32] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: the files are piped directly into grep, so there is *very* little overhead (grep would need to open them anyways)
[22:32] <jpsman> well if I hexdump -C * | grep ab\ cd   then it doesn't specify the file in which it is found
[22:32] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: you may experience slightly more cpu usage, but the speed will be limited by your HDD's read speed long before the cpu chokes on it
[22:32] <whateverdude> not a single macbook pro user in here? :/
[22:32] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: ah, that makes sense
[22:33] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | whateverdude
[22:33] <jpsman> see my dilema?  I want to know in which file a hex value is found...
[22:33] <DarwinSurvivor> whateverdude: if you want an answer to a question, you need to ask the question ;)
[22:33] <whateverdude> DarwinSurvivor: i waited 5 minutes
[22:34] <jpsman> whateverdude apparently not - or atleast one looking at the screen
[22:34] <hash> joe42 what troubles are u having in unity
[22:34] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: try $'\x##'
[22:35] <DarwinSurvivor> hash: he's long gone
[22:35] <hash> oh
[22:35] <jpsman> DarwinSurvivor as a command alone or as the grep search pattern?
[22:36] <DarwinSurvivor> whateverdude: there may not be any macbook pro users here, but there may be users here who know how to fix a macbook pro problem.
[22:36] <hash> so does have to be name: to highlight to that person
[22:36] <sckedsfed> !ffmpeg
[22:36] <DarwinSurvivor> whateverdude: please post your problem and anyone that can help you will do their best
[22:36] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: as the grep search string. I think that's the bash escape sequence for hex
[22:36] <sckedsfed> !h264
[22:36] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: "grep $'\x##' -R *"
[22:36] <whateverdude> DarwinSurvivor: it usually ends with people saying "i don't remember but try this..." and useless stuff like that :<
[22:37] <T800> Hello.
[22:37] <DarwinSurvivor> whateverdude: well, it's better than getting nothing!
[22:37] <Loshki> hash: depends on your client, but name: usually highlights for most people...
[22:37] <hasenj> please help, my X server won't start, when I try 'xinit' I get: xterm: undefined symbol _XGetRequest
[22:37] <DarwinSurvivor> hash: name, also works (I think that's the x-chat default for some installs)
[22:38] <hash> loshki: thanks
[22:38] <Thisguy_> My software refuses to start, thinks I'm missing OpenCL, anything I can do?
[22:38] <Thisguy_> Not ubuntu itself
[22:38] <hash> DarwinSurvivor: yeah ive seen that too with the highlighted text
[22:39] <chrisgeorge> After upgrading to 12.04, GRUB is not booting kernel 3.2 by default. No timer, no default selection. Is there a way to fix this?
[22:39] <DarwinSurvivor> hash: please post your .xinitrc and the entire output of your terminal sessions to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:39] <whateverdude> DarwinSurvivor: i just installed ubuntu and when connecting my macbook pro to my external monitor the resolution is stuck at something like 1280x800 and the rest of the monitor is black. it also tells me "monitor unknown" or something like that.
[22:39] <DarwinSurvivor> hash: if you are unable to run a web browser, install pastebinit using apt-get
[22:39] <hash> DarwinSurvivor: what
[22:39] <Ninja-1> whateverdude: sounds like it's using the vesa driver
[22:39] <DarwinSurvivor> hash: sorry
[22:39] <jpsman> DarwinSurvivor, is it possible to do a wild card search?  so kinda like grep $'\xab\xcd\x(wildcard)' *   ?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> chrisgeorge: hold shift and select the new kernel, then run:  sudo update-grub    in the desktop
[22:40] <whateverdude> Ninja-1: more info, please
[22:40] <RealEyes> does compiz still work with 12.x?
[22:40] <RealEyes> Im trying to configure hot corners
[22:40] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: you are unable to run a web browser, install pastebinit using apt-get
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: yes its default installed
[22:40] <Ninja-1> whateverdude: vesa is the driver that's used when none of the others work. what's your GPU?
[22:40] <chrisgeorge> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I remote boot it usually so I guess I'll have to go to it directly. Thanks :)
[22:40] <jpsman> RealEyes, I found the cube and 4 desktops didn't work for me
[22:40] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: sorry, replace ## by the hex code of the character you are searching for
[22:40] <wylde> jpsman DarwinSurvivor -- possible to script a hexdump and search file by file? (just a thought)
[22:41] <hash> whateverdude: sounds like a driver issue
[22:41] <whateverdude> Ninja-1: oh, ok. nvidia something
[22:41] <narctix> jpsman what you trying to extarct?
[22:41] <whateverdude> Ninja-1: want me to find the full name?
[22:41] <RealEyes> ActionParsnip, where can I find it?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: no idea, I hate compiz
[22:41] <Ninja-1> whateverdude: yeah, that could be helpful. try "lspci"
[22:41] <RealEyes> This quick search doesnt work that well
[22:41] <whateverdude> Ninja-1: hold on. i'm gonna need to boot it up!
[22:42] <DarwinSurvivor> wylde jpsman you could use a "while read filename" style bash loop to perform the search
[22:42] <jpsman> I am trying to search a bunch of files for a hex value then a wild card BUT hexdump | grep doesn't specify the file it finds ....
[22:42] <Ninja-1> whateverdude: ok. also, what version of Ubuntu is it running?
[22:42] <wylde> jpsman: yeah, I meant dump each file and search, then move on to the next.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> jpsman: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6319878/using-grep-to-search-for-hex-strings-in-a-file
[22:43] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: are you still there?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> jpsman: http://www.issociate.de/board/post/473764/Search_regular_expression_with_search_for_hex_values_in_files?.html
[22:43] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: yes, thanks, trying to figure out how to redirect error stream to output - got it
[22:43] <hasenj> one sec
[22:44] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: alright
[22:44] <hasenj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/986307/
[22:44] <whateverdude> Ninja-1: did you see my pm?
[22:45] <Ninja-1> whateverdude: nope, i'm new to IRC...lemme see if i can
[22:45] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: alright, it appears you are trying to use fglrx but don't have it installed
[22:45] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: how can I tell it to not use fglrx?
[22:45] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: little hint for reading Xorg error outputs, look for (EE) - they signify errors :)
[22:45] <remlabm> I blacklisted the nueveau drivers, and installed the nvidia drivers from their site. Now i cannot get to login screen. Any ideas?
[22:46] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: first let's determine if it's not installed or simply not loading.
[22:46] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: it's not installed -- I uninstalled it
[22:46] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: ah, well that would cause problem!
[22:47] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: well, I wanted to use the open source driver
[22:47] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: is there a particular reason you uninstalled it?
[22:47] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: ah, ok
[22:47] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[22:47] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[22:47] <CrazyGangster> http://i46.tinypic.com/2i9nvwm.png
[22:47] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: I did a dpk-reconfigure after that
[22:48] <whateverdude> Ninja-1: is this it? nvidia geforce 9400m
[22:48] <Guest52271> need link or tutorial for my new os
[22:48] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: and what did you chose when you ran reconfigure?
[22:48] <DarwinSurvivor> !tutorial | Guest52271
[22:48] <jpsman> ActionParsnip, well pretty much that except across multiple files in a directory
[22:49] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: I was following a wiki page, I think it was xorg-xserver or xorg-xserver-core
[22:49] <Loshki> jpsman: might have to resort to something like:  find . -type f -ls -regex '<regular expression' -ls
[22:49] <Guest52271> do you have any video tutorials
[22:49] <night_shades> negative
[22:49] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: was it a wiki page from ubuntu's website, or a 3rd party location?
[22:50] <Loshki> !manual | Guest52271
[22:50] <night_shades> anyone know how to connect to this channel using andchat irc through android device
[22:50] <jpsman> DarwinSurvivor third party stackoverflow :0D
[22:50] <osgi> h
[22:50] <mango_> anyone recommend a tool to download videos as mp3's on Ubuntu?
[22:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest52271: ubuntu does not currently host many (any?) video tutorials. youtube is a great place to find them though
[22:50] <osgi> /?
[22:50] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: if that was for me, I think it was from ubuntu's wiki
[22:50] <hasenj> though it might have been for an older version
[22:51] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: yeah, sorry
[22:52] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: do you use a custom .xinitrc file?
[22:52] <night_shades> anyone know how to connect to this channel using andchat irc through android device
[22:52] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: not that I'm aware of
[22:52] <tyler_> ok well are there any tuorials on using play on linux  and wine?
[22:52] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: ok
[22:52] <hasenj> there's a dead link leading to here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[22:52] <hasenj> unfortunately that page doesn't exist anymore
[22:52] <hasenj> or something
[22:52] <jpsman> wylde, so a bash script for a hexdump | grep should work?
[22:53] <jpsman> would that specify the file found?
[22:53] <osgi> /
[22:53] <osgi> /?
[22:54] <wylde> jpsman: I was just tossing an idea out. Figuring that maybe a script that dumped and searched each file would get the job done.
[22:54] <tyler_> @DarwinSurvivor: do you know of any tutorials on using play on linx or wine
[22:54] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: "sudo apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx"
[22:55] <wylde> jpsman: you could script in to output the filename where the search term was found(if it will exist in multiple files) or have it kill the loop and output the filename it found the term in?
[22:55] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | tyler_
[22:55] <cypher-neo> tyler_, Tutorials? PlayonLinux is fairly straightforward.  Wine is fairly straightforward.
[22:56] <jpsman> well a list would be vary nice but it could also kill the loop I guess
[22:56] <cypher-neo> tyler_, What program are you trying to run?
[22:56] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: "virtual packages like xorg-driver-fglrx can't be removed"
[22:56] <Loshki> jpsman: Try find . -type f -ls -regex '<regular expression>' -ls
[22:57] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: oh yeah, they virtualized that one :P
[22:57] <night_shades> i had two os's on my computer  one being windows 7 and the other was linux mint, anyhow i deleted linux mint through the primary partition program on windows 7 and rebooted my system and now it wont let me boot up to windows. anybody familiar with using grub terminal
[22:57] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: ok, you said you already removed it, so try the following
[22:57] <sckedsfed> hi.. How can I install h.264 codecs to view videos on youtube?
[22:57] <DarwinSurvivor> !purge | hasenj
[22:57] <jpsman> loski I did and it found in all test files find . -type f -ls -regex 'ihadhotdogsforlunch -ls
[22:57] <jpsman> which I know doesn't exist in them
[22:57] <cypher-neo> tyler_, What program are you trying to install?
[22:57] <DarwinSurvivor> sckedsfed: using which browser?
[22:57] <srid`> lxc question: how do i ssh into a container without using lxc-console?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> sckedsfed: you just need flash
[22:58] <sckedsfed> DarwinSurvivor: opera
[22:58] <srid`> i cannot ping a container by its name (even when appending .local)
[22:58] <Jordan_U> night_shades: This channel only supports Ubuntu. Try #grub.
[22:58] <sckedsfed> ActionParsnip: no I also need h264.... flash is crashing
[22:58] <tyler_> i am trying to install Battlefield2,World At World and trying to play Assassins creed
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> tyler_: did you check the appdb
[22:58] <tyler_> the what
[22:59] <night_shades> ok ill try it, thanks jordan
[22:59] <Jordan_U> night_shades: You're welcome.
[22:59] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: thanks, running purge command
[22:59] <cypher-neo> tyler_, Check out winehq.org and query on that site how those games run on Wine.
[22:59] <DarwinSurvivor> tyler_: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[23:00] <zowsz> someone can give me the freenodes's website?
[23:01] <remlabm> so interesting thing i have going on here. i wasable to uninstall the nvidia drivers but i do not hvea a unity bar? logged in like normal and i can pull up terminal but no bar
[23:01] <sckedsfed> zowsz: http://www.freenode.net
[23:01] <Loshki> jpsman: my bad, the regex tries to match the file name, not the contents. Someone cleverer than me will have to advise you...
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> sckedsfed: opera does not support h264 (does not matter if the underlying OS does or not) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#Table
[23:01] <sckedsfed> :/
[23:01] <trism> srid`: there are probably nicer ways, but when I create my containers, in the config I give it an explicit ip address: lxc.network.ipv4=<IP_ADDRESS>/24 , then you can: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(may want to ask in #ubuntu-server for other options)
[23:01] <jpsman> actually I think i might have it with grep $'\xab\cd..' *
[23:02] <jpsman> thanks everyone :OD
[23:02] <jpsman> er grep $'\xab\xcd..' * even :0P
[23:02] <DarwinSurvivor> sckedsfed: many of youtube's videos (if that is where you watch stuff) are available in VP8. other than that you will need to ask in #opera for advice running h264 in it
[23:02] <tyler_> i am new to ubuntu/kubuntu so i have no idea how to use Wine or Play on linux
[23:03] <DarwinSurvivor> !wine
[23:03] <jpsman> Loski, DarwinSurvivor, ActionParsnip, wylde thank you for your help :OD
[23:03] <DarwinSurvivor> jpsman: no problem
[23:03] <wylde> :)
[23:04] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: did the purge, ran the 4 commands, rebooted, still same problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986329/
[23:04] <veebull> would it screw anything up to sym-link certain folders to sub-folders inside my ~/Ubuntu One directory?
[23:04] <veebull> like if I want to keep ~/workspace (for Eclipse) synced between my laptop and desktop?
[23:04] <DarwinSurvivor> veebull: absolutely not, that's actually the recommended method of putting stuff in there that needs to be reference elsewhere
[23:05] <DarwinSurvivor> veebull: just be careful if you put a symlink IN the ubuntuone folder that points somewhere else, I'm not sure if it will sync the link or it's destination
[23:05] <sckedsfed> DarwinSurvivor: ok thx... nad can you help me with flash? it doesn't work! :/
[23:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !flash
[23:06] <sckedsfed> DarwinSurvivor: already did
[23:06] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: have you ever modified your xorg configuration?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> tyler_: not all apps run in wine, you should check the appdb to see if the apps you want to run, will run
[23:06] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: possible, can't remember. I started having troubles though only after upgrading to 12.04, before that it was running fine
[23:06] <jpsman> qui()
[23:06] <jpsman> quit()
[23:06] <jpsman> nope that didn't work :OP
[23:07] <veebull> okay... I was not sure as it seems like once I symlink ~/workspace on the desktop into ~/Ubuntu One, then I'd need to create the same symlink on the laptop *before* syncing it, otherwise I'd just end up with the folder in ~/Ubuntu One on the laptop, not something actually sync'd to ~/workspace?
[23:07] <zowsz> some ircop here?
[23:07] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: though I did rm the default xorg.conf file and the xorg.conf.d directory doesn't have anything I recognize
[23:07] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: "sudo grep -R fglrx /etc/X11/*"
[23:07] <night_shades> i hate that ugly side panel on ubuntu 12.04 anyway to lower it to bottom right
[23:08] <mango_> has Nvidia updated their drivers for Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:08] <sckedsfed> DarwinSurvivor: it's a strange thing... the plugin is recognized as enabled (also in flash-test-pages) but videos don't play... just keeps a black box!
[23:08] <sckedsfed> some browsers crash
[23:08] <sckedsfed> others show message "missing plugin"
[23:08] <sckedsfed> others show black box
[23:08] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986334/
[23:08] <DarwinSurvivor> sckedsfed: sorry, I have never personally had problems (other than lagg year ago) with flash, so I don't know how to debug it. perhaps somebody else can assist you.
[23:09] <sckedsfed> ok
[23:09] <DarwinSurvivor> sckedsfed: ok, and you ran the "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core" correct?
[23:10] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: ok, and you ran the "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core" correct?
[23:10] <DarwinSurvivor> sckedsfed: sorry
[23:10] <sckedsfed> :D
[23:10] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: yea, though I ran it through wajig (wajig reinstall) which does the same thing
[23:11] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: wajig?
[23:11] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: it's just a tool that aliases apt-get commands
[23:11] <Oer> sckedsfed did you restart your browser after installing flash?
[23:11] <linux> que hacer despues de instalar ubuntu 12.04
[23:12] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: can you run it in apt-get just to make sure? It may need to rebuild the core executable
[23:12] <TemporaryName123> Question-  if I encrypt my HOME folder, is that the only folder where important information about me can be revealed?
[23:12] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: I just did
[23:12] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: though I think it's used a "cached" .deb file, is there a way to force it to download a new one?
[23:12] <wylde> TemporaryName123: that depends on what programs you use dump to /tmp :)
[23:13] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: ok, you may need to reboot as fglrx is possibly loaded in the kernel (causing X to try to use it) but the libraries are now missing. It's a long shot, but it's the best I can think of at the moment
[23:13] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: no, the cached deb file won't make a difference, it would have downloaded the same one anyways
[23:14] <TemporaryName123> wylde: so other than home folder,  /tmp folder can also contain information about me, are there any other folder?
[23:14] <DarwinSurvivor> TemporaryName123: are you running any syste-wide non-default servers (apache, etc)?
[23:15] <TemporaryName123> DarwinSurvivor, no I'm just using a normal desktop ubuntu  no server
[23:15] <Alec> Hello.
[23:15] <DarwinSurvivor> TemporaryName123: also make sure you either has swap disabled or encrypted!
[23:15] <wylde> TemporaryName123:  ^^ /tmp and swap yep
[23:16] <TemporaryName123> how do I clear /tmp folder before I turn off my computer?
[23:16] <wylde> TemporaryName123: /tmp is emptied on reboot, but that data remians until then.
[23:16] <DarwinSurvivor> TemporaryName123: how much ram do you have?
[23:16] <TemporaryName123> oic,  I installed ubuntu with normal settings to it created swap automatically, how do I disable it? i have 3 gigs of ram I think its enough to handle mostly anything linux related
[23:16] <wylde> TemporaryName123: if you're the only one who can access it, and don't leave it unattended between restarts /tmp won't matter.
[23:17] <Aress> maybe someone launched League of legends through wine?
[23:17] <Alec> I'm trying to install XBMCbuntu on my desktop PC but whenever I try to install I consistently get the error "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"  I've tried multiple distributions of ubuntu as well as usb slots to do this and multiple programs to write to the usb as well (unetbootin, etc).  I've successfully installed ubuntu on this machine before with the same problems but do not remember how I fixed it.
[23:17] <TemporaryName123> Aress, lots of ppl are trying to do that, no luck so far
[23:17] <Jordan_U> TemporaryName123: There is no reason not to have a swap partition.
[23:17] <DarwinSurvivor> wylde: please pastebin the output of "mount" there's a decent chance it is using a ramdisk or encrypted /tmp already
[23:17] <linuxuz3r> you need swap partition for paging
[23:17] <wylde> DarwinSurvivor: ?
[23:17] <Aress> TemporaryName123 I launched it
[23:18] <Aress> but I didn't connect to pvp.net
[23:18] <Aress> I was so close :d
[23:18] <TemporaryName123> Jordan_U okay I guess I'll just encrypt it
[23:18] <TemporaryName123> Aress, yea tha'ts what i've been reading online ppl cant connect to server
[23:18] <Aress> But
[23:18] <Aress> there is ACE client
[23:18] <Aress> which is working around
[23:18] <Jordan_U> TemporaryName123: If you use the Ubuntu installer's encrypted home option then swap is also configured to be encrypted as well.
[23:19] <Aress> there is possible to play lol with it but I got error :D
[23:19] <wylde> DarwinSurvivor: if I do that you'll see my bad practice uses of sshfs >.>
[23:19] <Alec> oh, forgot to mention this live usb also works on other pcs
[23:19] <wylde> shhhh
[23:19] <TemporaryName123> Jordan_U how can I enable that option without having to reinstall the ubuntu OS?
[23:21] <Jordan_U> TemporaryName123: I think that "sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap" will do it.
[23:22] <DarwinSurvivor> wylde: sorry that was for TemporaryName123 :P
[23:22] <wylde> DarwinSurvivor: :)
[23:22] <Aress> Why riot team doesn't create linux version :(
[23:22] <DarwinSurvivor> TemporaryName123: "mount | grep tmp" and then post the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:23] <DarwinSurvivor> TemporaryName123: "mount | grep swap" will tell us if swap is setup correctly as well
[23:25] <Alec> Anyone have an idea?
[23:26] <cypher-neo> Alec, Instead of installing, try previewing.
[23:26] <Alec> That doesn't work either.
[23:26] <cypher-neo> Alec, Use the Drive Manager to make sure the drive you are installing to is completely unmounted.
[23:27] <cypher-neo> Alec, Well... oh.
[23:27] <cypher-neo> Alec, That was my wildest idea.
[23:27] <Alec> I really don't know how I fixed it last time :/
[23:27] <Alec> I'm trying to make this machine completely dedicated to only video playing.
[23:27] <cypher-neo> Alec, Well, here's another wild idea.
[23:27] <tyler_> with wine i get the same error
[23:28] <cypher-neo> Alec, Yank the hard drive and pop it into a different computer. Use the Live USB on that computer and format/install the drive. Then pop it back in the other computer.
[23:28] <cypher-neo> Alec, It's overkill, but it should work. lol
[23:28] <Alec> Can't do that, only other computer I have is my laptop :/
[23:30] <cypher-neo> Alec, :(
[23:30] <Alec> Yeah, I have no clue how I did it before
[23:30] <DarwinSurvivor> Alec: the distribution you are using is not an official ubuntu derivative (it is maintained by xmbc). This means that we have no idea of knowing what changes xmbc made to the iso's or the underlying software. You will most likely need to ask the xmbc devs directly to resolve your issue.
[23:31] <Alec> I know, but I also mentioned I've tried other ubuntu distributions (actual ubuntu) and that didn't work either
[23:31] <Alec> Same exact error.
[23:31] <wylde> Alec: beyond that you could try mythbuntu which is supported. :)
[23:31] <Jordan_U> Alec: That error probably means that, for whatever reason, the kernel can't access your USB drive.
[23:31] <DarwinSurvivor> Alec: ok, sorry, i must have missed that comment
[23:31] <Rurd2di> anybody know commands i can use in the motd
[23:31] <remlabm_> ActionParsnip: Should i Install any nvidia drivers after disabling the nueveau drivers?
[23:31] <Alec> It works in my laptop though
[23:31] <Rurd2di> to say for example the username logged in
[23:32] <wylde> Rurd2di: the current user logged in? $USER no?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Alec: It's probably something specific to that hardware. I'm guessing that when you do get Ubuntu installed you'll still have problems accessing USB drives on this computer.
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> hasenj: I hope you issue has been resolved. Unfortunately I need to leave now. If you are still experiencing issues, perhaps somebody else in the channel will be able to assist you
[23:33] <hasenj> DarwinSurvivor: thanks for your help, much appreciated, I'm still having the same problem unfortunately
[23:33] <cypher-neo> Alec, Just an odd question. Is the USB drive you're using a High Capacity drive (or over 4Gb)?
[23:33] <Alec>  Last time I had ubutnu installed it worked flawlessly, no problems whatsoever.  (same machine)
[23:33] <Alec> It is only 1gb.
[23:33] <Alec> I've tried a 4gb as well though.
[23:34] <stef1a> can anyone point me to a samba tutorial for setting up a samba server on a remote machine (via my local machine)? all of the involved computers run linux; none run windows
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Alec: You should be able to work around the problem by using the minimal install image.
[23:34] <cypher-neo> Alec, I was thinking based on Jordan_U's comment that it might be that the BIOS is rejecting the drive. Some BIOS's don't like booting from USB2.0 drives.
[23:34] <Jordan_U> cypher-neo: Alec: That's not what I'm saying at all. In fact that Alec got as far as seeing an initramfs error means that the BIOS is handling the drive fine.
[23:35] <home> Guys, I've tried everything but I can't.. How do I install ATI/AMD graphics drivers the proper way?!? I'm gonna have to go back to Windows if I don't get know it!
[23:35] <Alec> Like I said before, I installed it previously (same error) with another USB 2.0 drive.  I forget how I fixed it though.  Jordan, I'm kind of confused as to what a minimal install image is.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Alec
[23:35] <Rurd2di> wylde: nah
[23:35] <Rurd2di> that dosent work
[23:35] <decio_crytek> please guys, help me
[23:35] <Alec> Opening the page atm
[23:35] <TemporaryName123> DarwinSurvivor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/986361/          idk, I'm thinking of reinstalling the whole OS, since I don't have that many programs installed yet anyway
[23:36] <tyler__> every time i try to play assassins creed i get the error invalid parameters recived
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Alec: The reason why it would work around this particular problem is that the image consists of only a kernel and initramfs, both of which are loaded by the bootloader before any native USB drivers from linux are started. Everything else is downloaded from the internet, so the installer never needs to access the USB drive directly.
[23:36] <Alec> Okay.
[23:37] <Alec> I'm looking to see if XBMCbuntu has one for it.  If not, I'll just get the regular one and put XBMC on it I suppose
[23:38] <decio_crytek> does anyone in here help you with good question like Ubuntu's web site advertizes?
[23:38] <wylde> tyler_: if you're playing these games through wine then #winehq would be the appropriate place for support.
[23:39] <Jordan_U> decio_crytek: Have you tried the Additional Drivers utility?
[23:39] <tyler_> well i am not running them throgh wine i am running them through play on linx
[23:39] <black_joe>  tyler_, that is a front-end for WINE. #winehq will be able to help.
[23:39] <wylde> tyler_: which is a front end to wine
[23:39] <decio_crytek> Jordan_U yes. But I have a Radeon HD 4500m series and it actually runs worse on those drivers than on the open source native ones...
[23:40] <Jordan_U> decio_crytek: Worse in what way?
[23:40] <Rurd2di> any other idea what the ommand could be wylde?
[23:40] <decio_crytek> Jordan_U and I can't even play a Full Screen 720p video
[23:41] <tyler_> i am new to kubuntu/ubuntu os, so i have no idea how to use these and what the settings mean
[23:41] <indio> Hi. How can I know which internal IP address my router dynamically assigned to my localhost?
[23:41] <Rurd2di> indio: ifconfig
[23:41] <decio_crytek> They are just not as fast as I'm used to. And laggier than the original ubuntu ones. Jordan_U
[23:41] <Rurd2di> type that in config
[23:41] <Rurd2di> *console
[23:41] <wylde> Rurd2di: not off the top of my head, I know the Variables $USER $HOME $HOSTNAME work in bash. I'm just stepping out for a bit. If you're still here when I get back I'll be glad to help. In the meantime, I'm sure there's some much more knowledgable people in this channel that can help :)
[23:42] <Rurd2di> thanks wylde
[23:42] <Rurd2di> ill still be here
[23:42] <indio> Rurd2di: Yes thank. I know that one, but I want to be able to configure my scripts with some var instead of the hard coded 192.168.0.X, is that possible?
[23:42] <cpu--> anyone seen morpheus
[23:44] <bryguy_> i have some questions hopefully ya'll can answer
[23:44] <bryguy_> first I am running precise xubuntu
[23:44] <tyler_> i am new to kubuntu/ubuntu os, so i have no idea how to use these and what the settings mean
[23:44] <shashi> hello room.
[23:44] <bryguy_> i downloaded the new LMDE XFCE
[23:44] <bryguy_> ISO
[23:44] <decio_crytek> I'm out of Linux once for all. I thought 12.04 would be better than Windows 8. I'll just keep saving money for a iMac then..
[23:45] <bryguy_> i want to install this somehow without burning a disk/dvd
[23:45] <proxinix> !ask | tyler_
[23:45] <shashi> you can do a window install
[23:45] <philipballew> bryguy_ off topic
[23:45] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, try downloading xubuntu 12.04 full and installing it standalone by itself
[23:46] <bryguy_> really philipballew
[23:46] <decio_crytek> BYe
[23:46] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, trust me its way better than ubuntu or kde, and theyre all better than ianything
[23:46] <philipballew> bryguy_  linux mint is not supported here
[23:46] <proxinix> tyler_ I suggest you right click everything and test it out.  Get to know your machine like a neighborhood like you did with Windows www.linuxcommand.org is where a lot of people start.
[23:46] <gizmo> what do I type in a terminal to install itunes on ubuntu?
[23:47] <bryguy_> i know but i M Running ubuntu precise
[23:47] <lekremyelsew> gizmo, itunes is not compatible with ubuntu
[23:47] <bryguy_> i just want to know how to install an iso from precise without burning a disk
[23:47] <jacobwg> Does anyone know how to autofs mount a network share to a folder off of / (I want to mount the share at /folder)?
[23:47] <philipballew> bryguy_ run virtualbox
[23:47] <hash> bryguy: make a bootable usb
[23:47] <decio_crytek> bryguy_: Does it have better drivers support than Ubuntu for ATI graphics card?
[23:48] <black_joe> gizmo : You cannot. You need to use a compatibility layer called Wine to run Windows applications. Other applications such as Clementine and rhythmbox offer similar functionality, though.
[23:48] <shashi> every time i open a cairodock controll pannel. the top panel of the window opens under the top panel . I use xubuntu, any one facing the same problem. does  an y one has a solution for this?
[23:48] <proxinix> gizmo, rythembox handles itunes well for some - try that
[23:48] <Rurd2di> indio: unsure mate
[23:48] <lekremyelsew> gizmo, but there are many applications available that work with ipods, try searching the software center for "ipod"
[23:48] <philipballew> gizmo, why do you need itunes?
[23:48] <fpz^2> hey guys. I thought I'd ask here first before posting to askubuntu.
[23:48] <bryguy_> probably not decio_crytek since its still the same base OS
[23:49] <bryguy_> but there are work arounds
[23:49] <fpz^2> I've got issues with the i915 drivers for my Intel HD 3000 integrated GPU. Specifically, the screen goes black right after the splash screen - the only way to boot is to set nomodeset or i915.modeset=0
[23:49] <proxinix> gizmo, apt-cache search -n ipod
[23:49] <gizmo> Iblack_joe: have wine but not sure how to use it
[23:49] <bryguy_> philipballew, i ran it in virtual box, but i dont think i can actually install the whole os as a dual-boot style os on my hdd
[23:49] <fpz^2> unfortunately, that kills the whole ubuntu experience - no kms, and only resolutions up to 1024x768
[23:49] <proxinix> gizmo, sudo apt-get install exaile-plugin-ipod exaile
[23:49] <bryguy_> only on the virtual partition
[23:49] <fpz^2> anyone know a remedy? or another driver that works and keeps kms going?
[23:50] <bryguy_> 'as far as i can tell so far phillipb
[23:50] <bryguy_> phillipb
[23:50] <decio_crytek> bryguy_, That's what I want. I want a OS that AT LEAST can play a 720p Full Screen YouTube video since I have a dual-core 2.00GHz Processor and a ATI Radeon HD 4500m series
[23:50] <philipballew> yeah you can
[23:50] <philipballew> !mint
[23:50] <bryguy_> really?
[23:50] <philipballew> there you go
[23:50] <bryguy_> ty philipballew
[23:50] <lekremyelsew> Is there an easy way to see which proccess is causing my system load to idle at a high number?
[23:50]  * philipballew does what he can
[23:50] <fpz^2> err, I meant i915.modeset=0
[23:51] <bryguy_> philipballew, there is no one on that channel lol
[23:51] <fpz^2> lekremyelsew, htop is pretty decent
[23:51] <philipballew> how long did you want?
[23:51] <fpz^2> apt-get install htop
[23:51] <decio_crytek> And 4Gb of RAM
[23:51] <bryguy_> do i need ot start up a different irc server?
[23:51] <philipballew> !mint
[23:52] <bryguy_> join #mint
[23:52] <philipballew> irc.spotchat.org is what you want to go to <bryguy_>
[23:52] <philipballew> not freenode
[23:53] <lekremyelsew> fpz^2, i'm using htop. My cpu usage idles at ~1 but the system load idles at ~.60. Do you know how to find out what is causing that?
[23:53] <Alec> trying a different usb right now for xbmcbuntu before I use hte mini one
[23:54] <fpz^2> lekremyelsew, tbh, I've had different versions of ubuntu put a constant minimum load of 0.5 on my system
[23:54] <fpz^2> nothing to worry about really, as the load is only representative of one cpu
[23:54] <RealEyes> whats the command for seeing how much memory is in use?
[23:55] <Alec> Jordan_U also, when installing, my keyboard seems to stop working when initramfs pops up
[23:55] <sckedsfed> hi... How can I avoid the password request for a user during login? I'm with lxde
[23:55] <xwolf> bo s
[23:55] <lekremyelsew> fpz^2, it usually stayed at ~.01 until a recent upgrade
[23:56] <bryguy_> philipballew, how do i get to that spotchat area?
[23:56] <fpz^2> RealEyes, `free`
[23:56] <harushimo> hey everyone, I can't get any display to my second monitor
[23:56] <fpz^2> lekremyelsew, that's odd. but what htop reports is what is used
[23:57] <harushimo> how do I access the video card information
[23:57] <lekremyelsew> fpz^2, Funny thing is, the load seems to be much higher when htop is running
[23:57] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, i would maybe recommend trying LMDE or Mint Lisa (but Lisa is based off of Ubuntu)
[23:57] <fpz^2> lekremyelsew, try normal top?
[23:57] <sckedsfed> harushimo: depends on your card. if nvidia, from nvidia panel...
[23:57] <lekremyelsew> fpz^2, same thing
[23:57] <harushimo> I can't get the video card information working. This card worked on ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[23:58] <fpz^2> harushimo, lshw -C video
[23:58] <harushimo> I can't get the nvidia panel at all
[23:58] <sckedsfed> hi... How can I avoid the password request for a user during login? I'm with lxde
[23:58] <sckedsfed> hi... How can I avoid the password request for a user during login? I'm with lxde
[23:58] <harushimo> what is the command to access the nvidia panel
[23:58] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, https://www.google.com/search?aq=1&oq=ati+drivers+for+ubuntu+12.&sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=install+ati+driver+ubuntu+12.04
[23:58] <bryguy_> just google install ati drivers on ubuntu 12.04
[23:58] <RealEyes> my system reports is using 7 of 8 GB
[23:58] <Alec> Jordan_U, mini seems to be working, but my keyboard won't function :S
[23:58] <RealEyes> but im not doing anything
[23:59] <RealEyes> how can i clear the memory?
[23:59] <maheanuu>  am running a 64 bit version of 10.04.4 LTS and am not finding any way to get java installed as the 32 bit version will apparently not run in the 64 bit set up
[23:59] <sckedsfed> harushimo: nvidia-settings
[23:59] <harushimo> when I do the lshw -C video
[23:59] <RealEyes> sudo sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches does nothing
[23:59] <sckedsfed> (with sudo, to modify)
[23:59] <fpz^2> RealEyes, free includes reserved memory afaik too
[23:59] <lekremyelsew> RealEyes, free can be deceiving. http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html


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[09:20] <bambee> morning
[09:32] <bambee> apachelogger: ping
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[10:18] <bambee> apachelogger: could you quick review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/phonon ? Then I will upload it to kubuntu-ninjas/ppa
[10:23] <apachelogger> bambee: is libqzeitgeist in yet?
[10:25] <bambee> apachelogger: I will upload qzeitgeist first, then phonon. An qzeitgeist was already reviewed :)
[10:25] <bambee> s/An/and/
[10:26] <apachelogger> is it in natty though?
[10:26] <apachelogger> bambee: your symbols changes stuff are invalid
[10:27] <apachelogger> -# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4:4.7.0really4.4.4 armel i386
[10:27] <apachelogger> +# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4.7.0really4.5.0 amd64
[10:28] <apachelogger> consqeuently the whole symbols file gets replaced with new entries
[10:28] <apachelogger> which is not what is supposed to happen
[10:28] <bambee> aarrf
[10:29] <c2tarun> anyone here participating in GSoC?
[10:29] <apachelogger> bambee: +Depends: libphonon4, ${misc:Depends}
[10:29] <apachelogger> that makes libphonon4-designer's dependency on libphonon4 unversioned
[10:29] <apachelogger> also it misses out on designer and what not
[10:29] <apachelogger> which is wrong
[10:30] <apachelogger> that said, it probably should suggest libqt4-designer
[10:59] <bambee> apachelogger: you're right (it should suggest libqt4-designer)
[10:59] <bambee> I agree
[11:03] <bambee> apachelogger:  +Depends: libphonon4 (= ${binary:Version}), ${misc:Depends} is better ,
[11:04] <bambee> ?
[11:30] <debfx> bambee: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libphonon4 (= ${binary:Version})
[11:32] <bambee> debfx: mhhhh... interesting
[11:32] <bambee> debfx: does ${shlibs:Depends} not include libphonon4 (= ${binary:Version}) ?
[11:37] <debfx> bambee: afaik it only contains external libs (i.e. not built from the same source package)
[11:37] <bambee> ohh indeed
[12:41] <c2tarun> anyone here participating in any project in GSoC?
[13:24] <jussi> natty here I come!
[14:38] <stikonas> Hello again. I've written yesterday about untranslated KDE string "Desktop", but I still don't understand what Kubuntu does wrong (it works in all other distros).
[14:39] <stikonas> this launchpad translation system is so horribly broken :(...
[14:44] <debfx> stikonas: which language are you talking about?
[14:45] <stikonas> I am coordinator of Lithuanian KDE translation, so mainly Lithuanian, but I also tested with Russian
[14:45] <stikonas> I can try to test with German...
[14:46] <stikonas> then we will see if this happens with all languages...
[14:46] <debfx> hm launchpad says that it is translated: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/kdebase-workspace/+pots/plasmagenericshell/lt/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=desktop+settings
[14:47] <stikonas> debfx: I will make a screenshot
[14:48] <stikonas> debfx: http://stikonas.homelinux.org/files/2.png
[14:51] <stikonas> (and as you can see from screenshot I also suffer form that bold Ubuntu fonts bugs, but that's another issue...)
[14:52] <JontheEchidna> fiddling with the hinting settings should fix that
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> for the l10n, I have no idea how it could be *half* translated
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> very weird
[14:53] <stikonas> JontheEchidna: Dekstop word is taken from the .desktop file
[14:54] <stikonas> and they are somehow stripped to language packs
[14:54] <stikonas> probably something goes wrong somewhere
[14:54] <shadeslayer_> jussi: how is natty treating you?
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> but it's a context menu, those don't get l10n from .desktop files
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> right?
[14:54] <jussi> shadeslayer: waiting for the damn thing to download :P
[14:54] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[14:55] <stikonas> JontheEchidna: no, here translateion is taken from /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containmant-desktop.desktop
[14:56] <stikonas> and the same happens for German language
[14:56] <stikonas> so either something is broken on my computer, this goes wrong in all languages
[14:57] <stikonas> but names of all other plasma widgets and containments are translated, so this is really weird
[14:59] <JontheEchidna> I think the string should be in here, but I can't find it: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/kdebase-workspace/+pots/desktop-kdebase-workspace
[14:59] <jussi> shadeslayer: now its installing :D
[14:59] <shadeslayer> \o/
[15:00]  * shadeslayer has a minor headache
[15:00] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containmant-desktop.desktop
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containmant-desktop.desktop natty
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> oh, typo
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containment-desktop.desktop
[15:02] <stikonas> upstream ships this translation in desktop_kdebase_kde-workspace.po
[15:02] <stikonas> I'll download desktop-kdebase-workspace.po from launchpad and look if the string is there
[15:03] <JontheEchidna> stikonas: If you could, filing a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations would be good too.
[15:04] <stikonas> ok
[15:05] <stikonas> .po file from launchpad has the required string
[15:08] <stikonas> it's the string number 647
[15:10] <debfx> maybe the patch to load translations of .desktop files is incomplete
[15:11] <stikonas> it may be that
[15:12] <stikonas> especially having in mind that "Desktop" is quite special word
[15:12] <stikonas> so it may be that this word gets ignored somehow
[15:16] <bambee> why does pkgkde-symbolshelper drop arches on the first line ? I use the batch-patch mode, the file looks correct except the first line... (I did read http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html)
[15:17] <bambee> however the patch has been created from an amd64 build ...
[15:18] <stikonas> JontheEchidna: I've submitted a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/749379
[15:18] <JontheEchidna> stikonas: thanks
[15:28] <bambee> apachelogger: when you're around, could you please check symbols files (fixed on revu) ? I doubt
[15:29] <EagleScreen> hello
[15:30] <EagleScreen> is it too late to sync kdbg 2.5.0 from Debian unstable?
[15:31] <debfx> bambee: it drops all other architectures because you haven't verified them with the new upstream version
[15:33] <bambee> debfx: ok
[15:34] <EagleScreen> kdbg 2.5 is KDE4 based, has a lot of bugs fixed since 2.2.1 and works with the latest gdb
[15:35] <EagleScreen> I think we should try a feature freeze exception with it
[16:06] <jussi> shadeslayer: almost done.
[16:06] <shadeslayer> whee :D
[16:07] <shadeslayer> jussi: any issues so far?
[16:07] <jussi> shadeslayer: apart from the awfully annoying stop to accept the msttcorefonts license (which I accepted already?)
[16:07] <jussi> not much :)
[16:08] <shadeslayer> ah :D
[16:25] <jussi> shadeslayer: and we are up and running.
[16:26] <shadeslayer> jussi: welcome to natty, have a pleasant stay :P
[16:26] <jussi> shadeslayer: any big changes I should check out?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> hmm .. alot of stuff fixed in qtwebkit i believe ...
[16:27] <shadeslayer> along with kdewebkit ...
[16:27] <jussi> perhaps try rekonq again then? :P
[16:27] <shadeslayer> jussi: bug fixes in general ... plasma is less crashy, we need testers for Project Neon on natty ....
[16:27] <shadeslayer> sure if you feel like it
[16:28] <shadeslayer> btw rekonq 0.7 is out, anyone want to package it?
[16:30] <bambee> kde-packager mailing-list is opened to beginners ?
[16:31] <shadeslayer> bambee: file a bug on bugzilla
[16:31] <shadeslayer> and add that you work on kubuntu packages
[16:34] <bambee> ok...  I have not many packages... but I can ask anyway...
[16:38] <yofel> bambee: you'll need to mention one person that vouches for you - ask R iddell
[16:38] <bambee> yofel: ok
[16:38] <bambee> thanks
[17:38] <shadeslayer> FYI if someone want's to package rekonq 0.7 please contact me first ...
[17:41] <debfx> shadeslayer: *contact*
[17:49] <shadeslayer> debfx: one sec ... on the phone
[17:53] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=rekonq.git&a=commit&h=aaebac2ce417d7af074f86e8cce0eb44cc611332 >> that has to be reverted
[17:57] <debfx> shadeslayer: ok, any reason it hasn't been committed yet?
[17:58] <shadeslayer> debfx: it's a webkit bug, that's exposed in rekonq
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ( when using cache )
[18:01] <debfx> so upstream won't revert that commit?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> debfx: as of now it's in the 0.7 release
[18:07] <shadeslayer> but for a proper fix it needs to be fixed in webkit
[18:08] <debfx> shadeslayer: is there a bug report about the issue?
[18:08] <shadeslayer> debfx: on rekonq or webkit?
[18:09] <debfx> both
[18:09] <shadeslayer> ah i know of the rekonq bug report, one sec
[18:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: yeah on the phone again ... this will take some time :
[18:48] <shadeslayer> debfx: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269701
[18:49] <stikonas> shadeslayer: I also can reproduce unresonsive google
[18:49] <stikonas> s/unresonsive/unresponsive/
[18:50] <shadeslayer> there's one other
[18:50] <stikonas> and sometimes something wrong happens with tab bar, is this a known issue?
[18:50] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269702
[18:51] <shadeslayer> stikonas: yes, that's fixed iirc
[18:51] <shadeslayer> stikonas: which version do you have?
[18:51] <stikonas> probably RC2, the one that is packaged in Kubuntu natty
[18:51] <stikonas> I have git checkout somewhere, but I haven't installed it
[18:52] <shadeslayer> debfx: ^^
[18:52] <stikonas> 0.6.95+git20110331-0ubuntu1
[18:54] <stikonas> maybe tabbar bug is indeed fixed, I can't reproduce it now, at least not yet
[18:58] <debfx> shadeslayer: thanks
[18:58] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:55] <shadeslayer> OIMG
[19:55] <shadeslayer> OMG
[19:55] <shadeslayer> jussi: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
[19:55] <jussi> :D
[19:57] <bambee> jussi: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
[19:57] <bambee> :)
[19:57] <shadeslayer> jussi: diaspora does not tell me it's your birthday]
[19:57] <jjesse> someone else is on diaspora?
[19:57] <shadeslayer> me
[19:57] <shadeslayer> jjesse<EMAIL_ADDRESS>;)
[19:57] <jjesse> my last item on diaspora is 14 days ago :)
[19:58] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:58] <jjesse> thats how exciting it is :)
[19:58] <shadeslayer> mine is 8 days ago .. :P
[19:59] <shadeslayer> okay .. i'm off to sleep .. night
[19:59] <jjesse> night
[20:02] <shadeslayer> heh .. this is a warning i got when i ran a java program : WARNING: OperatingSystem: Linux
[20:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[20:05] <jussi> jjesse: jussi01 at joindiaspora ;)
[20:06] <bambee> neversfelde: ping, ftbs for kdebidings
[20:06] <neversfelde> bambee: I know
[20:07] <neversfelde> only for i386
[20:07] <bambee> yup
[20:08] <neversfelde> kdegraphics seems to be broken too
[20:15] <bambee> neversfelde: what is broken for kdegraphics ?
[20:16] <bambee> I mean a ftbs too ?
[21:11] <yofel> oh, happy birthday jussi :D
[21:43] <neversfelde> bambee: yes fails to build, but I did not have the time for a closer look
[21:44] <bambee> neversfelde: I understand
[21:58]  * txwikinger will test drive natty kubuntu beta1
[21:58] <txwikinger> ScottK: What should I use on a laptop amd64 or i386?
[22:00] <txwikinger> Guess I get am64 for hyperthreating
[22:08] <txwikinger> Do we have only natty DVDs?
[22:08] <jjesse> for beta 1 i think
[22:09] <txwikinger> Why is that?
[22:10] <stikonas> what is bad with DVDs?
[22:10] <stikonas> more software can be put on them :)
[22:14] <txwikinger> More to download that I do not need
[22:16] <txwikinger> Some places have Internet usage caps
[23:15] <apachelogger> kubotu: you just lost your fancy cloak, you poor thing
[23:16] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for jussi
[23:16]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[23:16]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to jussi and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday jussi, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy Birthday jussi :D
[23:16] <kubotu> To your health!
[23:16] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for seaLne
[23:16]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[23:16]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to seaLne and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday seaLne, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy Birthday seaLne :D
[23:16] <kubotu> To your health!
[23:16] <apachelogger> happy bday!
[23:16] <apachelogger> oh
[23:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for Tscheesy
[23:17]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[23:17]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to Tscheesy and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[23:17] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday Tscheesy, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[23:17] <kubotu> Happy Birthday Tscheesy :D
[23:17] <kubotu> To your health!
[23:17] <apachelogger> happy bday to you too :)
[23:17]  * apachelogger passes out
[23:18] <seaLne> hehe
[23:37] <claydoh_> apachelogger: seems to be having too much fun
[23:37] <apachelogger> actually I need to do some home work :/
[23:37] <apachelogger> kinda difficult after a couple of beers
[23:40]  * claydoh is finding work difficult and hasn't had any beers :(
[23:41] <ScottK> Perhaps a couple of couple of beers is what's needed for motivation then?
[23:42] <claydoh> I don't really drink, but it may be a good reason to start
[23:42] <claydoh> tho i hate beer, and the wine is long gone into some dish I cooked last week
[23:42] <apachelogger> :O
[23:42] <apachelogger> wine -> cooked
[23:43] <apachelogger> W-T-F
[23:43] <apachelogger> you are insane
[23:43] <apachelogger> also a bit mad, mostly insane
[23:43] <apachelogger> ah, not talking about me
[23:43] <claydoh> ScottK: I am having trouble motivating myself , as well as focusing gotta get hold of it and shake things up
[23:43]  * apachelogger got confused
[23:43] <apachelogger> anyone knows anything about design patterns?
[23:43] <claydoh> apachelogger: i use wine for cooking
[23:43] <apachelogger> claydoh: insane'n'mad
[23:44] <claydoh> usually cheap stuff
[23:44] <apachelogger> INM Inc.
[23:44] <claydoh> nay tasty sauces and marinated meats
[23:44] <apachelogger> claydoh: the cheap stuff is the one you get best hangovers from though ^^
[23:44] <ScottK> apachelogger: Very French, but that's somewhat redundant.
[23:44] <apachelogger> lolz
[23:45] <claydoh> ap I haven't had a hangover since the weekemd I stared dating my now wife - 1989 lolz
[23:47]  * claydoh wants his desktop activities in his cube dangitall!!!!
[23:49] <claydoh> actually I nned to blog about something, but that is what I need motivation for
[23:50] <claydoh> perhaps if I blog that kubuntuforums needs to move to a non-windows/non-gratis host
[23:51] <claydoh> someone may get pissed enough to move on  it
[23:52] <apachelogger> claydoh: just copy'n'paste that and post :P
[23:52] <apachelogger> CNP Inc.
[23:52] <claydoh> hah
[23:52] <apachelogger> great company names tonight
[23:52] <claydoh> yeah


[06:20] <karstenk> please can somebody ufw experienced help with https://pastebin.com/nrujTnRf ?
[09:07] <txtsd> Is there a recommended way of getting rid of snap/snapd on Kubuntu specifically?
[09:07] <txtsd> Other guides talk of gnome software center being a part of the process, but I don't suppose that's a thing with Kubuntu
[09:15] <fxosnow> hello
[09:15] <foxsnow> clear
[09:37] <kubuntu> :3
[09:45] <kubuntu_> :3
[10:05] <kubuntu_> hiii
[13:11] <user|53> hi
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:50] <mparillo> I found a script on GitHub: https://github.com/popey/unsnap He is pretty well known in the *buntu community. That said, I simply followed a different guide, just typing commands into the konsole. Really simple so long as you don't try to re-install packages that are hidden snaps. If you want to prevent that, there are a few extra steps to prevent snaps from coming back.
 5xky
 5zky
[14:48] <user|97> I'm new to Kubuntu, and running xRDP to listen for RDP connections. I modified the .xsession file to include xfce4 as the default display, but now I want to switch back to the Plasma environment in RDP. Can anyone suggest what I can include in the .xsession file to do that? Thanks!
[14:50] <ApoloXIII> hi
 8LO7
 KCL9
 WD2F
 Hello. Can you tell me how to switch to KDE Plasma Wayland from X11?
 In the login window, after selecting Wayland and entering the user's password, the confirmation screen turns black and throws it back to the login window.
[17:23] <user|80> Hello. Can you tell me how to switch to KDE Plasma Wayland from X11?
[17:23] <user|80> In the login window, after selecting Wayland and entering the user's password, the confirmation screen turns black and throws it back to the login window.
[17:46] <user|59> Hello, I have the following problem. I downloaded the kubunto installer but there is no optical drive on the new computer. Does it matter what software I use to make the USB bootable, or can I run it directly under windows?
 I've used rufus when creating usb installers on windows, it seems to work well, even if it gave some grub version errors
[18:15] <foxsnow> Install Ventoy
[18:15] <foxsnow> Ventoy is better than rufus


[17:10] <ejat> hi ricotz, do the thunderbird 65 available in ppa ?
[17:22] <ricotz> ejat, no, not yet, I haven't looked into an update either
[17:23] <ejat> okay .. no worries .. just asking :)
[17:23] <ejat> what happened to the daily ppa ?
[17:34] <ricotz> missing rustc 1.31 update
[17:36] <ejat> in disco still 1.30


[00:19] <bjf> jjohansen: you marked bug 1020888 as 'invalid' for security. this is rebased on the precise main branch. also, this release replaced a previous one in -proposed that didn't make it to -updates
[00:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1020888 in linux-armadaxp "linux-armadaxp: 3.2.0-1605.8 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020888
[00:21] <jjohansen> bjf: right we aren't doing USNs for armadaxp, currently they being "maintained" by OEM and the deal is that the security team isn't in general doing USNs for them
[00:21] <jjohansen> bjf: so its likely you still need to do the CVE end of things, and I will just clear them through as invalid when I see them, at least until I am told to do otherwise
[00:22] <jjohansen> s/they being/they are being/
[02:00] <Vromoth> Hello?
[11:59] <janimo> apw, seems the latest 3.5.0 rebase on rc7 does not have a tag in the repo
[12:00] <janimo> Ubuntu-3.5.0-5.5 missing
[13:07] <apw> janimo, i do not see it uploaded yet which would trigger tagging normally, so its not definatly 'done'
[13:08] <apw> janimo, but i will check and find out why
[13:33] <dcgen> Hi i am using a dell xps 14 and I wanted to know what version of the kernel which has the backlight fixed for xps should I use..
[13:37] <ogra_> hmm, no ppisati ?
[14:08] <janimo> apw, oh I thought the tag happens on commit not upload.thanks
[16:55] <jamespage> how is the best person to direct ARM kernel requests to?
[17:05] <rtg> jamespage, likely cooloney or ppisati
[17:08] <cooloney> jonmasters: sorry, i just reboot my machine, what am i missing?
[17:15] <rbasak> jamespage: ^^
[17:15] <jamespage> rtg, thanks
[17:16] <jamespage> cooloney, specifically I was trying to use the rbd module on omap4
[17:36] <cooloney> jamespage: any failure when you are trying use rbd in omap4? which kernel are you using?
[17:37] <jamespage> cooloney, kernel - Linux winehouse 3.4.0-204-omap4 #9-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 9 12:56:56 UTC 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[17:37] <jamespage> cooloney, I get a 'FATAL: Module rbd not found.' when running modprobe rbd
[17:52] <cooloney> jamespage: oh, yeah, i found for ti-omap4 we disable this
[17:52] <cooloney> debian.ti-omap4/config/config.common.ubuntu:# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RBD is not set
[17:53] <jamespage> cooloney, can we enabled it? I'm assuming its disabled for a reason...
[17:53] <cooloney> jamespage: is this necessary for ceph or other stuff? i found it's built as module in our master branch
[17:54] <jamespage> cooloney, yes - at the moment I can run a ceph server on omap4 - but I can access block devices...
[17:54] <cooloney> ppisati: do you know why we disable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RBD for ti-omap4?
[17:54] <jamespage> cooloney, the same would apply to other ARM kernels - its specifically important for server targets
[17:55] <cooloney> jamespage: cool, i will send out patch for this
[17:55] <jamespage> cooloney, thanks v. much :-)
[17:55] <cooloney> jamespage: thanks for pointing out, btw, running ceph on ARM is quite cool
[17:58] <jamespage> cooloney, if we can get this module and openvswitch module enabled for ARM archs == fully functional openstack!
[17:58] <jamespage> backed by ceph for scalable instance volume block storage - nice!
[17:59] <jamespage> zul, ^^ FYI
[18:04] <infinity> jamespage: the higbank config should match master pretty closely.  armadaxp might need a twiddle, since it was originally cargo-culted from ti-omap4, I think.
[18:04] <infinity> jamespage: So, double-checking all the configs and filing bugs might be sane.
[18:04] <infinity> jamespage: Doubly-so, if this should be fixed in the SRU kernels too.
[18:05] <jamespage> infinity, where do I look at kernel configs?  I can do a cursory check
[18:05] <infinity> jamespage: I'd just grab the actual debs and check /boot/config-* inside.  Easier than constructing it from the twisty maze of bits in debian.*/ in the source. ;)
[18:06] <jamespage> infinity, ack - I'll take a look
[18:26] <cooloney> jamespage: OPENVSWITCH should be enabled by apw in both ti-omap4 and master
[19:09] <hggdh> kernel folks: armadaxp 3.2.0-1605.8-armadaxp does not have ip_tables.ko. Is this how it should be?
[19:49] <pgraner> jsalisbury, did the web cam patch make it into a released kernel yet?
[20:04] <bjf> hggdh: looking at it
[20:13] <ogasawara> pgraner: it did and I uploaded to our PPA to build.  I'll copy it out to the release pocket when it's all done.
[20:37] <janimo> hggdh, seems like in armadaxp ip_tables is built in not a module
[20:37] <hggdh> janimo: perfect, thank you
[20:38] <janimo> hggdh, is that a failure actually - I do not recall explicitly making it built in
[20:38] <janimo> this may be the first time these tests are run on armadaxp
[20:38] <hggdh> janimo: I believe so, I do not know of anybody else running these tests except me, the security team, and (of old) gruemaster
[20:40] <janimo> hggdh, so is there a need for concern if it is built in?
[20:40] <hggdh> janimo: no, not really, but the QRT must be adjusted for that
[20:41] <janimo> hggdh, I should probably make it a module though to be in line with the other kernels
[20:42] <hggdh> janimo: I agree 100%. So can we assume you are making these changes for the next build(s) -- precise and quantal?
[20:42] <janimo> ikepanhc, cooloney unless you know something about it needing to be built-in
[20:42] <janimo> hggdh, yes. For precise, and the same package will likely make it to quantal (copied)
[20:42] <janimo> so no need to adjust the test either I guess
[20:42] <hggdh> janimo: perfect, thank you much
[20:43] <ikepanhc> janimo: none
[20:43] <ikepanhc> janimo: I am ok with build-in or module
[20:43] <janimo> hggdh, np thanks for testing this kernel thoroughly :)
[20:44] <janimo> hggdh, any other tests that you know of before this can be decalred ok for -updates? just curious
[20:44] <hggdh> janimo: I am marking the bug now fix-released, qa-testing-passed
[20:45] <infinity> janimo: Have you checked if you're in line with other modules, compared to master?
[20:46] <infinity> janimo: See, eg, discussions above about CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RBD in ti-omap4, no idea if that's enabled in armadaxp.
[20:46] <janimo> infinity, no config checking done, I should probably do that to when enabling this change
[20:47] <janimo> infinity, just copying over from mainline/highbank should do it or do I need a line by line review?
[20:48] <infinity> janimo: Better answered by someone like apw or ogasawara (they do line-by-line reviews).
[20:48] <infinity> janimo: But you can probably cheat a bit, given that master already has sane reviews, and you can likely cargo-cult a bit, and adjust for platform differences.
[20:49] <janimo> alright
[20:49] <janimo> will schedule this for next SRU.
[20:49] <infinity> Well, FSVO "sane".  I vaguely recall a rather large amount of alcohol involved in the config review I participated in.
[20:49] <janimo> or actually maybe ikepanhc will do it if we switch tasks (armada/highbank) for a while
[20:49] <ikepanhc> janimo: yes, I am thinking on this
[20:50] <apw> infinity, the alcohol is needed to avoid self termination
[20:50] <hggdh> janimo: bug is ready for next stage
[20:50] <ogasawara> janimo: we're sprinting this week and doing a config review, let us know if there is a particular config we need to examine
[20:50] <janimo> infinity, is there anything you participate in that does not involve large amounts of alcohol?
[20:50] <infinity> ogasawara: armadaxp/precise should probably look as close to master/precise as possible.
[20:51] <janimo> hggdh, if next stage is taken care of by bjf's bot or some friendly admin I'm not touching it :)
[20:51] <ogasawara> infinity: indeed, that's the goal
[20:51] <infinity> ogasawara: No idea how off it is currently, but I'd guess "a bunch".
[20:51] <ikepanhc> janimo: ok, I will do this these two weeks, let me pick up those "purple" items again
[20:51] <hggdh> janimo: bjf's bot will do it
[20:52] <infinity> hggdh: Still needs a regression-testing signoff, surely?
[20:52] <hggdh> infinity: already done
[20:53] <infinity> hggdh: Nu uh.
[20:53] <hggdh> infinity: barf on hitting enter on the bug
[20:53] <hggdh> check it now
[20:54] <hggdh> bloody hell, barf again :-)
[20:54] <infinity> Hahaha.
[20:54] <infinity> Launchpad loves you. ;)
[20:54] <infinity> Right, *now* the bot will DTRT.
[20:54] <infinity> Or, I might pre-empt it and just take the release tasks.
[20:54] <infinity> After I smoke.
[21:00] <infinity> ogasawara: Waitaminute.  Back up.  Did you just imply that you're doing config reviews sober?
[21:01] <ogasawara> infinity: no one said we were sober
[21:01] <infinity> ogasawara: Phew.
[21:05] <infinity> janimo: Released.
[21:05] <janimo> infinity, \o/ thanks
[21:34] <infinity> ogasawara: Say, while you guys are sprinting, want to take a vote about getting me added to the 2550(kernel_team) and 2616(kernel_cdev) UNIX groups for emergency use and random collaboration?
[21:46] <rtg> infinity, I would prefer that you commit changes to your repository (perhaps on zinc) and email a pull request to the k-team list. I notice that you don't have a publicly visible directory on zinc. I can request that one be created for you.
[21:47] <rtg> That would necessitate joining kernel_team, but not kernel_cdev.
[21:50] <infinity> rtg: I'm sure that could be done.  It's been a while since I've had to do any emergency faffing, but it's irksome to then get hunted down by the "it's not in git" police. ;)
[21:51] <infinity> rtg: And kernel_team would probably be enough for collaboration on other projects, yes (like, if we want to keep initramfs-tools on zinc)
[21:51] <rtg> infinity, ok, I'll start an RT and get you a public directory.
[21:52] <infinity> rtg: Danke.