[10:06] <KeenEars> un_operateur: i need to restart my session ? it`s all checked there
[10:06] <Schiz0> hey, i'd like to know how to run the sshd deamon in ubuntu server
[10:06] <malikeye> you need to chroot in
[10:06] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0,
[10:06] <malikeye> Waldmeista: you have the install done already ?
[10:07] <Alakazamz0r> aptitude install openssh-server
[10:07] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, I shuold think so -- it probably depends on iptables to install
[10:07] <Nevermore-Lap> thanks un_operateur
[10:07] <Waldmeista> yes, but my problem is I can't boot it, so I just booted the live cd again
[10:07] <reverseblade> What is special about Sabayon Linux ?
[10:07] <Nevermore-Lap> is there anyone that was able to change the key binding on gaim 2?
[10:07] <un_operateur> KeenEars, probably yes
[10:07] <ubuntunewbie> hello. can anyone help me with the sound issues i'm having?
[10:07] <malikeye> Waldmeista: k... so mount it anywhere ( I know, confusing ).... then do a : chroot /$MNT /bin/bash
[10:07] <KeenEars> thanx !
[10:08] <malikeye> that will basically inject you into the sda3 install
[10:08] <ecastro> hi everybody!
[10:08] <ubuntunewbie> i've tried installing alsa-driver, lib, util, oss... nothing is working
[10:08] <Shocka311> rpereira: I forgot to save it before anyway, let me put it all back in
[10:08] <Waldmeista> ok, did that
[10:08] <malikeye> Waldmeista: so you are in ?
[10:08] <malikeye> ls -la / looks like the sda3 install ?
[10:08] <rpereira> Shocka311: Now, I won't recommend for you to delete directory lost+found... Read: http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/
[10:08] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, how do i get the root passwd?
[10:09] <malikeye> !root
[10:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:09] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, I'd play about here if i were you -- gnome-sound-properties
[10:09] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, you dont need a root password
[10:09] <Alakazamz0r> sudo -i
[10:09] <Alakazamz0r> then your password will give you root access
[10:09] <ecastro> I've just installed ubuntu 6.10 and i really have to admit it: it is totally great... i'm going to remove gentoo immediatly from my pc. Dispite this i have some doubts, for instance, what soft do you use to burn cd's?! There is a default app but it is for burning audio cd's only...
[10:09] <Waldmeista> i dunno if it looks like it, it looks just like the live cd /
[10:09] <rpereira> Shocka311: It has to be like this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38563/
[10:09] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it keeps giving me Totem could not open resource for writing"
[10:10] <malikeye> Waldmeista: ok, well if you can't tell, then just try to install grub into the boot record like normal
[10:10] <Shocka311> rpereira: I'm not gonna even worry about that. its a very  small folder and as long as I can access the hard drive i'm happy.
[10:10] <Nevermore-Lap> un_operateur: did u play with gaim keybinding? i did but im unable to make them work
[10:10] <un_operateur> ecastro, k3b is probably already installed -- althought i cant be sure
[10:10] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, it doesn't let me run the binary =\
[10:10] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, thats probably because the sound device isnt properly setup
[10:10] <DarthLappy> un_operateur, I wouldn't think so, on a Gnome environment.
[10:10] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, what do you mean
[10:11] <ecastro> un_operateur: but it depends on qt... isnt there a burning tool written in gtk?
[10:11] <abarbaccia> anybody know how to use oss with ubuntu dapper? having serious issues
[10:11] <malikeye> gnome-baker
[10:11] <malikeye> xcdroast
[10:11] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, is there a site i can go to so that i can set it up properly? i think i've been to 200 sites showing me how to do it.
[10:11] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, I dont use gaim all that much -- what do you mean exactly by keybindings?? keyboard shortcuts?
[10:11] <Nevermore-Lap> yep
[10:11] <rpereira> Shocka311: This is a System Directory.... It's like to remove c:/windows/system32.... :-D
[10:11] <Waldmeista> malikeye: what is like normal? is it grub-install root-directory= ...
[10:11] <Nevermore-Lap> i want to send msg by ctrl-return un_operateur
[10:12] <ubuntunewbie> alsaconf detected the sound card... but when i do a 'alsamixer', it gave me like snd_ctl_open fail default
[10:12] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, -- at a terminal -- type this command out -- gnome-sound-properties
[10:12] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r,  when i type sudo -i aptitude install openssh-server, i need to put a password entry, so i use the password of my user
[10:12] <Schiz0> and
[10:12] <malikeye> Waldmeista: however you were doing it before... I usually go into grub itself and then mess with the commands inside
[10:12] <ubuntunewbie> ok
[10:12] <Schiz0> i get a message
[10:12] <Schiz0> that i can't run the binary
[10:12] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"
[10:12] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, hmm, i'm not sure
[10:12] <malikeye> Waldmeista: just type grub to get into grub
[10:12] <_3lj> hmm, can i check with someone, in there xconf file, where do there fonts point to? is it /usr/share/fonts/X11 or /usr/lib/X11/fonts (mine points to one, but the fonts are located in the other :-/)
[10:13] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it won't let me select the default sound card
[10:13] <Nevermore-Lap> un_operateur: i followed the guide to add keybinding but no effect...so is ok, i was wondering if there is someone who make it work
[10:13] <Schiz0> great
[10:13] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, i asume that the server does not come with X server
[10:13] <malikeye> Waldmeista: you do understand what you are doing right ? looks like you are trying to dualboot... which can get tricky
[10:13] <Waldmeista> malikeye: i have a doc here saying i must do a "mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev" before for the chroot-system to know the deviced
[10:13] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, no
[10:13] <Alakazamz0r> well yes
[10:13] <peter_t> hello ubuntu people
[10:13] <Alakazamz0r> X forwarding
[10:13] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, at the terminal -- what does this do??  speaker-test
[10:13] <Shocka311> rpereira: that makes sense.  Thank you so much for your help, I think its working now
[10:14] <Waldmeista> malikeye: i'm trying to set up everything so that i can choose the os (ubuntu, windows) at boot time in grub
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, Playback open error: No such device
[10:14] <peter_t> I'm trying to get my wireless network working with WPA authentication...
[10:14] <normmac> is there a way to turn up the brightness on a gateway laptop that underwindows you need the Fn key and that doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> and it keeps doing it over and over again
[10:14] <rpereira> Shocka311: No problem.... And merry Xmas for you....
[10:14] <malikeye> Waldmeista: ok, then do that then....mount -o bind blah blah... make sure to mount it under $MNT though
[10:14] <dobblego> when I lock the screen on dapper, I am not able to log back in - "password incorrect" - similar issue to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99903 but the given solution does not work (change with passwd) - wtf is going on?
[10:14] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, ok, after installing the openssh server how do i set up the deamon to run at startup?
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1357:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> Playback open error: -19,No such device
[10:14] <rpereira> Before I forget: Merry Xmas for all you....
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> that
[10:14] <Shocka311> rpereira: you as well
[10:14] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, it'll do it automaticaly.
[10:15] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, always address me in your messages so i can spot your replies  -- anyway -- what does this list?  asoundconf list
[10:15] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, oh and in case i don't want it to run at start up?
[10:15] <Alakazamz0r> sudo aptitude install bum
[10:15] <KeenEars> apt-get install happy_xmas !
[10:15] <Alakazamz0r> thats a boot up manager.
[10:15] <un_operateur> !paste > ubuntunewbie
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, Names of available sound cards:
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, and thats all she wrote
[10:15] <tiede> Hi again. Another annoyance. After removing KDE from my system, my themes are no longer properly set. In KDE's settings, there was an option to select which theme to use with gnome apps, and I tried using KDE's to make it consistent. However, when I logged in gnome, it would crash the theme-manager. So I made it use the Human theme instead. The problem is with KDE uninstalled, if I choose a theme other than Human, not all the style's preference
[10:15] <tiede> s change, namely the scrollbar, the buttons, etc... How do I fix this?
[10:16] <peter_t> I installed network manager gnome (trying to get WPA option), but it doesn't acknowledge any wireless connection...
[10:16] <checkmate> does ubuntu utilize dual core processors?
[10:16] <malikeye> checkmate: yes
[10:16] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, ok .. what you need to do is experiment with the different cards -- try setting each one indivually as the default with -- asoundconf set-default-card CARD
[10:16] <Waldmeista> malikeye: ok, seemed to work now, (didn't boot yet). the results are here: http://pastebin.com/843923
[10:16] <checkmate> excellent, because i'm getting one
[10:16] <checkmate> thanks malikeye
[10:16] <malikeye> Waldmeista: let me check
[10:17] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, where CARD is the name of the card obviously
[10:17] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, and how should i use it?
[10:17] <normmac> is there anywy to turn up the brightness on my laptop screen?
[10:17] <Waldmeista> as you can see, my /dev/sda is recognized as hd1
[10:17] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, how is the name suppose to look like? eg:- ens1371 ?
[10:17] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, or the full name?
[10:17] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, open bum and check or uncheck the services you want to start or not to start?
[10:17] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, exactly as how it is listed
[10:17] <ChevronX> Hey guy s, how do I hide my home directory from other users?
[10:17] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, listed where? in lspci ?
[10:18] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, if the cards have spaces -- include them "like this"
[10:18] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r,
[10:18] <Schiz0> dcg@dcgames:~$ sudo bum
[10:18] <Schiz0> sudo: bum: command not found
[10:18] <Schiz0> dcg@dcgames:~$
[10:18] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, no dude -- under asoundconf list .. lol
[10:18] <malikeye> Waldmeista: yup, I wasn't sure about what you were talkin about... SATA doesn't have a master / slave design. SATA channels only allow one drive
[10:18] <Schiz0> i already installed it
[10:18] <malikeye> Waldmeista: that grub output looks good to me
[10:18] <n2diy> Schiz0: sudo updatedb, and then try it.
[10:18] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, asoundconf list did not show any cards
[10:18] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, sudo aptitude install bum
[10:18] <malikeye> Waldmeista: your a quick study :)
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it just game me "Names of available sound cards:"
[10:19] <ChevronX> Hey guy s, how do I hide my home directory from other users?
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> gave*
[10:19] <Waldmeista> let's try the reboot
[10:19] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, ohhhh --  i get you now -- my bad my bad :) errm, you'll need to get the sound card installed first
[10:19] <malikeye> ChevronX: chmod 700 /home/$user ?
[10:19] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r,
[10:19] <Schiz0> No candidate version found for bum
[10:19] <dobblego> so to unlock the screen, one must reboot? is that a new feature?
[10:19] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to reset the Audio on ubuntu?
[10:19] <Schiz0> and i ran the updatedb alrdy
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, eermm... how do i do that?
[10:19] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, I suppose you know the name of the sound card listed via lspci ?
[10:20] <malikeye> Waldmeista: go for it
[10:20] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, yeah. its: 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 08)
[10:20] <ChevronX> What permissoins is that
[10:20] <SurfnKid> When using Gxine and RP, ending one allows the other to access it, but random times it doesnt
[10:20] <w3ccv> ChevronX, your home directory should be owner,group both your uid, and set to be read,write,exectue(as needed) by user only
[10:20] <malikeye> ChevronX: that is rwx------
[10:20] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, updatedb isnt for a fresh list of software packages
[10:20] <tiede> what Gconf key does KDE modify/create to control gnome's themes?
[10:20] <Alakazamz0r> do an "aptitude update"
[10:21] <Waldmeista> malikeye same results as before: "error 22: no such partition"
[10:21] <malikeye> ChevronX: who owns your /home/$user now ?
[10:21] <ChevronX> I do
[10:21] <Waldmeista> i don't know what to do..seemed that I didn
[10:21] <Waldmeista> 't do anything wrong
[10:21] <_3lj> out of curiosity, what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude? (it seems to do the same thing, but is there something im missing?)
[10:21] <jvai> hey ppl, happy holidayz
[10:21] <malikeye> Waldmeista: paste your grub.conf
[10:21] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, still i get the same msg that there's no candidate version for bum
[10:22] <Waldmeista> one minute, must boot from the live cd again
[10:22] <rogue780> yesterday a computer with xubuntu on it lost power at the beginning of grub loading, and now every once in a while when it boots I get a kernel panic, and I have to hard-reboot it, then it works fine for a while.
[10:22] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:22] <Alakazamz0r> Dapper?
[10:22] <rogue780> any idea how to fix this instability?
[10:22] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, at the terminal -- t ry this -- sudo modprobe snd-ens1371   -- and let me know what you see
[10:22] <Schiz0> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[10:22] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, see nothing.. just asked me for my password. i typed it in.. and thats it
[10:23] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, hmm, maybe it has worked -- what does asoundconf list say now
[10:23] <un_operateur> ?
[10:23] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Boot-Up_Manager_.28BUM.29
[10:23] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, nothing
[10:23] <bariel> hello, what is the name of the package in the red box? http://www.debianadmin.com/images/wpa/1.png
[10:24] <Schiz0> =\
[10:24] <Fed51> hola!
[10:24] <tiede> _3lj, apt-get installs only the package you specify and those it depends on. aptitude also install those that are suggested by the package's creator. Same goes with removal.
[10:24] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper is a very good resource
[10:24] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, pastebin the contents of this -- lsmod | grep -i snd
[10:24] <n2diy> bariel: the red box, with white dot in the middle of it?
[10:24] <ubuntu-newbie> please help. ubuntu (pc next to this one) is hanging in the startup procedure. i ve been watching the last 20 minutes: i get the big ubuntu with logo and the large progress bar beneath it; it's hanging at around 15% or so. windows from the dual boot install is still runging fine, no hardware changes whatsoever
[10:24] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, paste it here?
[10:25] <un_operateur> !paste | ubuntunewbie
[10:25] <ubotu> ubuntunewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <Schiz0> dcg@dcgames:~$ sudo apt-get install bum
[10:25] <Schiz0> Reading package lists... Done
[10:25] <Schiz0> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:25] <Schiz0> Package bum is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:25] <Schiz0> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:25] <Schiz0> is only available from another source
[10:25] <Schiz0> E: Package bum has no installation candidate
[10:25] <Ignite_> Guys, is the text installer on the desktop CD? Like, can I start it in the terminal?
[10:25] <bariel> n2diy, the wireless one
[10:25] <un_operateur> Schiz0, oi -- use a pastebin for that dude
[10:25] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, the link i gave you will fix that.
[10:25] <Ignite_> Because the GUI installer freezes at step 3...
[10:25] <un_operateur> !paste > Schiz0
[10:25] <malikeye> ubuntunewbie: you can hit F2 during the bootsplash to see what it's doing
[10:25] <n2diy> bariel: don't know.
[10:25] <_3lj> aah, so its safer to use aptitude then, being more cautious, thx tiede
[10:25] <Alakazamz0r> schhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:25] <bariel> n2diy, the package to scan for wireless
[10:25] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:25] <KeenEars> bum can be used with sysvrc package (iirc)
[10:26] <n2diy> bariel: I don't know.
[10:26] <tiede> you're welcome, _3lj ;)
[10:26] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: F2 does not tell me anything (had found that on google): no reaction to the F2 button
[10:26] <bariel> n2diy, so which package can i use to search my wireless?
[10:26] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, what should i select as the Syntax part ?
[10:26] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: did you just tap it or did you "press" it ?
[10:26] <n2diy> bariel: I don't know.
[10:26] <tiede> so, no one has an idea how to solve my KDE/Gnome theme conflict?
[10:26] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: i'll press it...
[10:26] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, I'm not sure i follow
[10:26] <w3ccv> bariel, looks a bit like wifi-radar
[10:26] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: I find I need to hold it for a sec
[10:26] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: but still no reaction
[10:26] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, what do you mean?
[10:26] <Juhaz> Ignite_, nope
[10:27] <Ignite_> Ffs
[10:27] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: ok, seconds then
[10:27] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: that's cause it's hung :) rreboot and try it from 1%
[10:27] <bariel> w3ccv, do you know if wifi-radar can deal with wap?
[10:27] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, well..i went to paste.ubuntu-nl.org.. and it asks for the Text, My name, and Syntax
[10:27] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, the default should do <methinks/>
[10:27] <w3ccv> bariel, I think so, but don't have it running now - on a different machine.
[10:28] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: ok, as there is no reaction to 8 seconds of F2 i'll press ctrl alt del and check again at 1% please don't run away :)
[10:28] <Schiz0> thanks
[10:28] <malikeye> man, and I was just gonna bail ;)
[10:28] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38567/
[10:28] <bariel> w3ccv, how does that guy in debianadmin.com minimize the wifiradar? i have just installed it, but it wont go to system tray
[10:28] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, one last question, to set up the lamp
[10:28] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, i hope i did that right
[10:28] <Schiz0> the how is on that page too?
[10:29] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[10:29] <Schiz0> thanks
[10:29] <n2diy> bariel: drag and drop it?
[10:29] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, it looks alright :)
[10:29] <w3ccv> bariel, when I'm connected I kill it - X in the top right coner
[10:29] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: I'm betting an error in the /etc/fstab file, but we'll see
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, so what do i need to do now?
[10:30] <bariel> w3ccv, if i kill it, the programm is stopped
[10:30] <w3ccv> bariel, yes, it's done it's job then
[10:30] <bariel> w3ccv, ahh, you mean you dont need it anymore?
[10:30] <ubuntunewbie> that paste thingy is so cool. i like.
[10:30] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, gimme a sec
[10:31] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, wokay
[10:31] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: well thats just great. i reboot 4, 5 times, pc does not want to start. i reboot (hard reset), press F2 like crazy and... ubuntu boots like a charm in 12 seconds. how can i found what actually went wrong? /etc/fstab should NOT be the problem, i got the same used on three pc's
[10:31] <malikeye> ubuntunewbie: yup, it's great... cuts down on chat scrool too :)
[10:31] <ubuntunewbie> malikeye, yup yup.
[10:31] <Waldmeista> malikeye: i have a /boot but no /boot/grub after the reboot with the live cd
[10:31] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: dunno :)
[10:31] <w3ccv> bariel, not that I can tell. it is used to load the iwconfig(?) anyway it sets up the connection then I exit the program.
[10:31] <bariel> w3ccv, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html if you see that site the package can allow us select which wireless network we want to connect
[10:31] <tiede> i'll be back.
[10:31] <Waldmeista> malikeye: forget it, i forgot to mount the installation partition..
[10:31] <malikeye> Waldmeista: weird
[10:32] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: i can live with it as long as it's working, but is there (sorry for the stupid question) some kind of error logging system that i can check now that the machine is actually up and running?
[10:32] <w3ccv> bariel, yes
[10:32] <malikeye> "kid, you'll shoot your eye out!"
[10:32] <malikeye> :)
[10:32] <cius> is the ubuntuforums.com login messing up on anyone else?
[10:32] <Waldmeista> malikeye: where should the grub.conf be?
[10:32] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, have a look at what davilinux (4 from bottom) says here -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140604
[10:33] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, wokay
[10:33] <malikeye> Waldmeista: /boot/grub/menu.kst
[10:33] <bariel> w3ccv, the wifi-radar i installed can not do that
[10:33] <Alakazamz0r> cius, yes it is.
[10:33] <malikeye> menu.lst, sorry
[10:33] <ifwr> how do I tell abcde not to prompt for "edit seleced CDDB data"?
[10:34] <fdr> hello! with winxp there's this wis
[10:34] <fdr> ups
[10:34] <fdr> sorry
[10:34] <w3ccv> bariel, let me boot the laptop and see what I have
[10:34] <jontec> T_T why isn't my sound working!?!
[10:34] <borg> does anybody know how to make TwinView see my LCD as the primary monitor and not my CRT?
[10:34] <Waldmeista> malikeye http://pastebin.com/843932
[10:34] <cius> Alakazamz0r, thanks for confirming, I thought it might just have a grudge against me
[10:34] <bariel> w3ccv, ok
[10:34] <Alakazamz0r> hehe no cius, its definately messing up. i just tried loggin in.
[10:34] <synth1> any xfire plugin work for gaim 2.0 beta?
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: I know this is weird, but change it to (hd0,2)
[10:35] <w3ccv> bariel, taking a while - fsdk needed.
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: you can do this live too, in grub at boot
[10:35] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to reset the Audio on ubuntu?
[10:35] <SurfnKid> When using Gxine and RP, ending one allows the other to access it, but random times it doesnt
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: just select the kerenel and hit E
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: all edits are temp though, so...
[10:36] <SurfnKid> !audio
[10:36] <malikeye> s/kerenel/kernel/
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, should i edit the menu.lst ?
[10:36] <Waldmeista> malikeye: how do I do it on the grub menu during boot?
[10:36] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, at a terminal -- killall esd; esd &
[10:36] <fdr> hello! with winxp there's this wizard that allows a user to ask for "remote assistance"... I think it really is something that enables some kind of rdp server. Is there something similar out-of-the-box in ubuntu, too? I want to provide help to a remote user, I'm pretty sure it can be done via VNC or similar... what I was looking for is such "wizard".
[10:36] <Hilob> Does anyone know of a terminal based cpu temperature monitor?
[10:36] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, errm, what do you think? :)
[10:36] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, what would that do
[10:36] <fdr> simply so that I can tell my user: if you need help, push this button
[10:36] <bariel> w3ccv, how do you run the networkmanager applet?
[10:36] <malikeye> Waldmeista: just make sure your cursor is on the right kernel and hit E
[10:36] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, type those commands out and press enter
[10:36] <malikeye> Waldmeista: make your changes, and then hit B to boot
[10:36] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, i think i'll try that. i'll be back. thanks a lot
[10:36] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, remove any so called TSRs in memory?
[10:36] <synth1> xfire for gaim 2.0?
[10:36] <SurfnKid> ok
[10:37] <borg> does anybody know how to make TwinView see my LCD as the primary monitor and not my CRT?
[10:37] <bariel> w3ccv, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png that one is NetworkManager, but i dont have it
[10:37] <ifwr> is there a way to prevent abcde from prompting "edit seleced CDDB data"?
[10:37] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, ohh -- it kills the sound daemon and restarts it -- that is all
[10:37] <Hilob> !temperature
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temperature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, ah ok
[10:37] <malikeye> !clue
[10:37] <w3ccv> bariel, I don't, I use wifi-radar.  But I should find out, I can't find my eth0 .
[10:37] <ubotu> clue: Package to ease upgrading, delete me. In component universe, is optional. Version 20050523-1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB
[10:37] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, and i heard this bleep, thats thumbs up i guess
[10:38] <bariel> w3ccv, i found out the icon i asked is not wifi-radar, but NetworkManager applet
[10:38] <dikma2003> joined the room
[10:38] <bariel> w3ccv, only i dont know how to start it
[10:39] <jaek> i just installed 6.10 and my system lags every ~10 seconds or so... the mouse becomes laggy and the framerate of the game i play drops...
[10:39] <jaek> using top i can't find what it is that is causing this
[10:40] <jaek> any ideas?
[10:40] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. Has a Linux question ever appeared on the TV show 'Who wants to be a millionnaire' and if so, does any1 know what the question was and how much it was for?
[10:40] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, cannot open device another application might be using it
[10:40] <SurfnKid> still says the same error
[10:40] <gizmo_the_great1> just realised it off topic - i take it there
[10:40] <Waldmeista> malikeye chaging from hd1,2 to hd0,2 on grub during boot does it
[10:40] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, :still not working :(
[10:41] <Waldmeista> but why's that? what do i do now? edit the menu.lst and change it there too?
[10:41] <malikeye> Waldmeista: todl you it was weird
[10:41] <LinuxAVG> Trk Varm ARanzda
[10:41] <malikeye> I believe it's cause you delcare root as sda, so it remaps everything to (hd0,0)
[10:41] <synth1> i would u go about uninstalling gaim 2.0 on edgy and installing an older version of it
[10:41] <ubuntu> hi
[10:41] <ubuntu> i have questuiob
[10:41] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, did you reboot?
[10:41] <ubuntu> i have problems with ubuntu
[10:41] <md-beer> bariel: this is w3ccv on the laptop - my wifi-radar has an option for WPA but it needs a client
[10:41] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, yup
[10:41] <ubuntu> Peoples
[10:41] <ubuntu>  i have problem
[10:42] <LinuxAVG> uLen bi tane trk olsun ya
[10:42] <malikeye> Waldmeista: yeah, edit it in menu.lst
[10:42] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, are you trying to get your sound card working too?
[10:42] <LinuxAVG> Trke Bilen varm ????
[10:42] <bariel> md-beer, so you use wifi-radar?
[10:42] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, what does asoundconf list tell you now?
[10:42] <aliendream23> help, I have a dvd drive that got stuck perpetually erasing a dvd+rw and now it will not eject!
[10:42] <md-beer> bariel: yes  but with WEP only
[10:42] <bariel> md-beer, isnt the app called NetworkManager?
[10:42] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it's telling me the same thing. no card listed
[10:42] <malikeye> aliendream23: power down and paperclip it ? :)
[10:43] <bariel> md-beer, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png
[10:43] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, it works fine, lets say i open a stream thru Gxine, and then i kill it, and open another stream thru Real Player, and works fine
[10:43] <un_operateur> aliendream23, use a paper-clip --- and push it in the pin-hole at the front of the drive
[10:43] <malikeye> aliendream23: sorry... use the "cd extraction tool" ;)
[10:43] <n2diy> aliendream23: can you kill the program, and eject from the desktop?
[10:43] <aliendream23> malikeye: can't running a lengthy shred command...would prefer not to stop
[10:43] <SurfnKid> every once in a while the stream will work on one, but not on the other (typically wont work on RP) so i would like to reset it so i can gain access to it
[10:43] <w3ccv> bariel, nope - it's wifiradar
[10:44] <aliendream23> un_operateur ...ok
[10:44] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, can you pastebin the contents of these two commands --- cat /boot/grub/menu.list; uname -a
[10:44] <aliendream23> Thanks!
[10:44] <w3ccv> !wifi-radar
[10:44] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[10:44] <malikeye> aliendream23: it's still spinning ?
[10:44] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, ok. what's the site again?
[10:44] <un_operateur> aliendream23, yw :)
[10:44] <aliendream23> malikeye: yes
[10:44] <malikeye> I wouldn't eject a spinning CD
[10:44] <un_operateur> !paste > ubuntunewbie
[10:44] <jaek> what might cause my mouse cursor to become choppy for 2 seconds every 10 seconds or so...? i'm not doing anything but moving my mouse in circles and it does that
[10:44] <therapy> PP
[10:45] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, check PM
[10:45] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, wokay
[10:45] <cius> timtrimble, after comparing my xorg.conf to yours, I have been unable to solve the problem.  Would you be able to link me to the NVIDIA documentation you used?  Maybe I can figure it out from those.
[10:45] <bariel> w3ccv, my wifi-radar doesnt have the menu vpn connection, connect to other wireless network and create new ...
[10:45] <aliendream23> well, I don't care so much about the dvd, it's blank and I think it may already be damaged
[10:45] <malikeye> I'm thinking about the laser aliendream23
[10:46] <un_operateur> jaek, what is your average load when this happens ??
[10:46] <aliendream23> malikeye: ok
[10:46] <malikeye> aliendream23: fuser -cuav /media/cdrom
[10:46] <n2diy> aliendream23: can you kill the program, and eject with the desktop icon?
[10:46] <aliendream23> n2diy, that didn't work
[10:46] <malikeye> aliendream23: if you add a -k to that fuser command it will kill the processes using the cdrom
[10:47] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38575/
[10:48] <_3lj> \o/
[10:48] <w3ccv> bariel, edit-> has WIFI Options (mode channel key securityu) ,WEP (driver), Automatic Netowrk Config (DHCP or address assignments) and Connection commands (before , after)
[10:49] <Waldmeista> malikeye thanx for your help so far...another lil question: why is 1024x768 the highest resolution i can choose?
[10:49] <Sybux> Hi all
[10:49] <malikeye> Waldmeista: for xorg ?
[10:49] <malikeye> Waldmeista: what vicdcard and display ?
[10:50] <bariel> w3ccv, yes i have that also
[10:50] <malikeye> Waldmeista: xorg mighta probed them wrong, so it doesn't know the true abilities
[10:50] <Waldmeista> videocard nvidia something pciexpress display tft 19" 1280x1024 native resolution
[10:50] <Sybux> I've got some problem with spamassassin and whitelist. I've added a whitelist user in my master.cf but it doesn't work
[10:50] <malikeye> Waldmeista: check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf for a 1280x1024 resolution setting towards the bottom
[10:51] <bariel> w3ccv, but it seems not the same one with the screenshot, maybe my version is older?
[10:51] <babbitt> anyone have any experience getting either mplayer or vlc running on a g3 ppc processor?
[10:51] <jhasse> How can i downgrade a package like libxft2 to the version present in the reprositories?
[10:51] <NixNewb> which is better, kde or gnome?
[10:51] <ubuntunewbie> what does "cat" means?
[10:51] <malikeye> babbitt: you won't be able to play any windows formats with that... just to let you know
[10:52] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, you put acpi=ht in the wrong place :)  change line #120 to reflect this -- kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb3 acpi=at ro quiet splash
[10:52] <ubuntunewbie> oops
[10:52] <sindrum> i prefer to use gnome i have friends who like  kde.
[10:52] <Sybux> NixNewb : none, it's just 2 different design. Choose the one you prefer
[10:52] <ubuntu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[10:52] <malikeye> ubuntunewbie: concatenate
[10:52] <babbitt> malikeye: eww, that's most unfortunate.  I thought the community had reverse engineered the formats in mplayer/ffmpeg?
[10:52] <malikeye> babbitt: not that I know of... we are still stuck with win32codecs
[10:53] <un_operateur> NixNewb, which is better ? mercedes or bmw? versace or gucci? IE or firefox? :)
[10:53] <w3ccv> bariel, I dont' remember where I got it, but it was only 3 or 4 weeks ago, for Edgy I don't have WAP here, or anywhere else so I havent' tried it. Beyon that I'm no help
[10:53] <flux_> can antyone help with a problem with chars in linux? I try to load a LateX document (.tex) into kine/texmaker/gedit/emacas (whatever, really), but I cannot get the norwegian characters  to work. They come up as small questionmarks. But I can take _the same_ document that got interpretted without special characters, and still write them in it
[10:53] <babbitt> malikeye: icky.  Does that include divx or just .wmv?
[10:53] <flux_> can antyone help with a problem with chars in linux? I try to load a LateX document (.tex) into kine/texmaker/gedit/emacas (whatever, really), but I cannot get the norwegian characters  to work. They come up as small questionmarks. But I can take _the same_ document that got interpretted without special characters, and still write them in it
[10:53] <Waldmeista> malikeye ok i added the respective entry for 1280x1024 what must I do to apply the changes in the x conf?
[10:54] <malikeye> babbitt: divx is fine... it's mainly wmv
[10:54] <un_operateur> !patience
[10:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:54] <Crescendo_> How can I make the audio device available to multiple sources at once?
[10:54] <malikeye> Waldmeista: did you make it the default resolution ?
[10:54] <Waldmeista> no
[10:54] <malikeye> Waldmeista: do that then... are you in X now ?
[10:54] <magic_ninja> whats a good xubuntu burning prog for audio cds
[10:55] <Waldmeista> malikeye u can change resolution in the menu system->properties->screen resolution where you have a combobox with the available resolutions
[10:55] <babbitt> malikeye: ok, I can deal with that.  The question now is how to get it to work.  Both crash with "illegal instruction".  I'm /guessing/ that they are trying to use altivec or whatever g4s and g5s have for floating point acceleration and the g3 doesn't....but I'm most familiar with x86 architectures.  I've owned a mac for about 16 hours now :)
[10:55] <malikeye> magic_ninja: I use k3b
[10:55] <magic_ninja> under xubuntu
[10:55] <Waldmeista> malikeye i'm on the gnome desktop
[10:55] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, okay.. brb
[10:55] <un_operateur> flux_, are you saying that while editing the document the chars don't show up but if you print the doc out they do?
[10:55] <MohamadABakerman> hello
[10:55] <n2diy> magic_ninja: k3b
[10:55] <malikeye> Waldmeista: sorry, forgot about that... I'm primarliy a gentoo user :)
[10:55] <Waldmeista> do i need to restart linux? i guess not..
[10:56] <malikeye> Waldmeista: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:56] <magic_ninja> cool, now i used to have a lot of trouble with xburn and k3b making coasters and im' pretty sure my drive is fine it was just on warty and older mdk versions
[10:56] <flux_> if I load a previously written tex-file they come up as questionmarks, but when I type them on my keyboard they come up...
[10:56] <magic_ninja> do you know if these bugs have been fixed
[10:56] <_3lj> hey all, bit of an odd question, i think ive gotten my xserver-xorg to work (im on fluxbox now), but it only seems to work when i type "startx" ... but if i type "fluxbox" it doesnt, and comes up with an error, so whats the difference between how startx works and just typing in fluxbox?
[10:56] <magic_ninja> _3lj: thats the way its supposed to work
[10:56] <Waldmeista> ok, that restarted the gui but the resolution does not appear in the combobox
[10:56] <malikeye> magic_ninja: not aware of any bug
[10:56] <malikeye> s
[10:56] <magic_ninja> _3lj: startx loads your xwindow manage while fluxbox isn't a command at all
[10:57] <_3lj> magic_ninja: really? :-o so i've done it ? :-D
[10:57] <flux_> so there's something about the process when they are being read into the programs that things go wrong.,,,
[10:57] <babbitt> _3lj: you need to put fluxbox in your .xinitrc or .xsessions file, its started automagically when X starts.
[10:57] <dead1ock> Hello
[10:57] <magic_ninja> _3lj: yes and you can also make it boot directly into gdm
[10:57] <un_operateur> flux_, no real idea about tex? just a guess - after loading up the document can you refresh it?
[10:57] <raxip> hi
[10:57] <malikeye> Waldmeista: paste your xorg.cong
[10:57] <flux_> yes, I can refresh, but doensn't help...
[10:57] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, still not working :(
[10:58] <jaek> i'm going insane here guys, anyone know why my CPU pegs to 50% every ~10 seconds or so? i cant catch anything on top
[10:58] <ubuntunewbie> feel like killing myself
[10:58] <bariel> w3ccv, thanks for your time
[10:58] <un_operateur> _3lj, the command is startfluxbox
[10:58] <babbitt> malikeye: any clue how to get vlc or mplayer working on a g3, or were you just informing me of the wmv codec issue?
[10:58] <_3lj> is it not a problem, that my start x seems to log me in as "root" though :-/ can i change that somehow?
[10:58] <malikeye> Waldmeista: sorry pastebin... don't paste.. don't want the news thiking they can just paste into the channel :)
[10:58] <radar_1976> question...  what can I use to keep a log displayed on top of all windows
[10:58] <dead1ock> private
[10:58] <malikeye> babbitt: only g3 I have has osx on it.. the wife uses it... sorry dunno
[10:58] <radar_1976> I don't want to use a terminal window
[10:58] <Flannel> flux_: is your terminal set to utf?
[10:58] <radar_1976> is there a pager I can use
[10:58] <babbitt> malikeye: good enough, thanks for the info.
[10:58] <radar_1976> I have gnome running on edgy
[10:59] <flux_> hmm.... maybe not. Where do I do that?
[10:59] <malikeye> babbitt: most welcome
[10:59] <Waldmeista> malikeye that was clear to me from the start off ;-) maybe new to ubuntu/linux but not to irc ;-)
[10:59] <un_operateur> _3lj, if you'd like to use fluxbox with something like xdm or gdm -- put  a "exec startfluxbox" in your ~/.xinitrc
[10:59] <flux_> I've only used the graphical things for language
[10:59] <bariel> w3ccv, if i may ask one thing again. in gnome we have usually the exit button, where if we click of it, it will ask us what to do, whether logout, restart, shutdown etc. Somehow i have done something bad, and if i click on that symbol, it logs me out as default without asking me anything
[10:59] <malikeye> Waldmeista: I know, but you never know who would read that as it's ok to do it :)
[10:59] <rogue780> I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!"
[11:00] <_3lj> okedokey, will try that, thank you un_operateur, magic_ninja and babbitt :-D woo hoo
[11:00] <un_operateur> _3lj, are you logging in as root to execute startx?? or running it as sudo startx?
[11:00] <malikeye> Waldmeista: basically covering my butt :) "but malikeye said I could do it" bleh :)
[11:00] <malikeye> not that I am any authority here or anything :)
[11:00] <malikeye> I'll shut up now
[11:00] <malikeye> haha
[11:00] <ogse23> hols
[11:00] <_3lj> un_operateur:  errm, i thought i just did it from my log in, but maybe i was accidently in root, ill double check now
[11:01] <_3lj> brb
[11:01] <rogue780> I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!" can someone help me with this?
[11:01] <Waldmeista> malikeye http://pastebin.com/843946
[11:01] <magic_ninja> well k3b seems to work but...it says "cannot handle this file extension" for mp3 so do i have to convert them to wav?
[11:02] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, how do i list the sound card again?
[11:02] <raxip> investigating
[11:02] <_3lj> woo hoo, yes im an idiot, i typed startx in root, so its fixed :-D
[11:02] <_3lj> thanks all :-D
[11:02] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie,  asoundconf list
[11:02] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, ok. but still nothing :(
[11:03] <Flannel> magic_ninja: it wont burn an mp3?  that doesn't seem... sane.  It should just copy the file.  You might try asking in #kubuntu, they're more familiar with k3b
[11:03] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, i gotta go for now. i'll be back to bother u again some other time. thank you for your help though.
[11:03] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, :( well, good luck with it
[11:03] <malikeye> Waldmeista: your monitor refresh rates are probably limiting you
[11:03] <Waldmeista> whys that?
[11:04] <malikeye> dunno :)
[11:04] <malikeye> comment out the Horiz and Vert
[11:04] <malikeye> I don't have any for mine
[11:04] <malikeye> LCD natively should scale to 60Hz
[11:04] <Waldmeista> ok, anyways, i gotta leave now, check that out another time... Thanx very much for your patience finally making my linux boot ;-)
[11:04] <Waldmeista> bye
[11:04] <malikeye> Waldmeista: welcome, later
[11:05] <fatlip> hey i'm getting some insane errors after a failed dist-upgrade
[11:05] <fatlip> and i'm having trouble fixing it
[11:06] <fatlip> there it goes again
[11:06] <Hilob> Does anyone know of a terminal based cpu temperature monitor?
[11:07] <fatlip> kicks me out of X, and then when it restarts it said "failed to initialize HAL"
[11:07] <Hilob> I'm trying to see if I can overheat my home made 1U server
[11:07] <fatlip> and the damaged packages are: capplets-data, and gnome-control
[11:07] <BearPerson> Hilob, sensors, from the lm-sensors package
[11:08] <Hilob> Thanks!
[11:11] <citr0n> Hey. Can anyone tell me, how to assign <Alt Gr>+e to ?
[11:11] <citr0n> If I write "xmodmap -e 'keycode 26 = e E ae AE ae AE'" in a console, it doesn't work, but if I change the Q-key with "xmodmap -e 'keycode  24 = q Q ae AE ae AE'", it works just fine.
[11:11] <citr0n> The only difference I see, is that Q already has assigned a value to <Alt Gr>+q, and e doesn't. Do I have to tell that I add an value instead of changing one?
[11:11] <Crescendo_> What is wrong with Java?  Every time I run a Java app my system becomes completely unstable.
[11:12] <Nina_> Need a hand to get my Nvidia open gl drivers to work, anyone ?
[11:12] <m12> anyone here use the palm applet?
[11:13] <Flannel> !anyone | Nina_, m12
[11:13] <ubotu> Nina_, m12: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:14] <malikeye> Crescendo_: which ubuntu version ?
[11:14] <Crescendo_> Edgy.
[11:14] <vmlemon> Hi, I'm having a wierd problem with Ubuntu Dapper Drake on a laptop, when it boots, the bootsplash is scrambled
[11:14] <m12> ok, I have gotten the palm applet to sync with my palm.  However, I do not know where it puts my pictures.  I have a folder where it syncs all of the applications, but the pictures aren't there.  Pictures appear in the sync logs, but I don't know what happens to them.
[11:15] <malikeye> Crescendo_: which java version ? 1.5.0_08 ?
[11:15] <nuffer> um, can anyone tell me, the ubuntu desktop livecd for g5s... it can mount hfs+ partitions, right?
[11:15] <Hilob> Here is a strange issue
[11:16] <Hilob> I can only see 2.8GB of memory when Memory remap is disabled in the BIOS
[11:16] <Hilob> When it's enabled, the system rarely boots
[11:16] <aliendream23> ok...my xserver just crashed, I had to reinstall my video drivers and reconfigure my xserver config file. Whgen the server crashed, shred was running on a partition that, after getting x up again, is not there. What happened to the discs option under system-->admin from dapper...? How do I go about getting that drive back?
[11:16] <malikeye> nuffer: not positive, it should...
[11:16] <Hilob> Any ideas?
[11:16] <madman91> hey guys
[11:16] <fatlip> ! :(
[11:16] <nuffer> malikeye: because I figured, it makes sense for something for PPCs to be able to mount OSX's partitions, right?
[11:16] <nuffer> yet the gentoo livecd can't do it
[11:17] <malikeye> nuffer: I would think... haven't booted gentoo on a mac in a while...
[11:17] <Crescendo_> malikeye, I've no idea.
[11:17] <vmlemon> nuffer: you need to enable HFS and HFS+ support in the kernel
[11:17] <nuffer> vmlemon: I mean off of a default livecd
[11:17] <malikeye> vmlemon: that's not moduled by default ?
[11:17] <nuffer> I don't actually want to install a linux here
[11:17] <vmlemon> I'm not sure then
[11:17] <nuffer> just use it as a recovery tool
[11:18] <malikeye> nuffer: not sure of the module name... but could probably modprobe hfs or something like that
[11:18] <malikeye> nuffer: does lsmod show anything significant ?
[11:18] <vmlemon> Any ideas about my scrabled bootscreen problem?
[11:18] <violot> Is wireless support good under Edgy?
[11:18] <nuffer> sorry, not at the computer right now...
[11:18] <madman91> i have a wine problem..  i have the repos .. deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main  ...  deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main ...    and i try both 'sudo aptitude install wine' and 'sudo apt-get install wine' and i get the error .. Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. .. so how do i install it
[11:18] <fatlip> Message from syslogd@daveyj-desktop at Sat Dec 23 17:18:20 2006 ...
[11:18] <fatlip> daveyj-desktop kernel: [17238142.980000]  Oops: 0002 [#20]
[11:18] <fatlip> =[
[11:19] <malikeye> nuffer: my imac is keyboard less ( using synergy to meld all my machines :) ), so I can't really boot a gentoo cd
[11:19] <malikeye> nuffer: sorry, ubuntu cd
[11:19] <nuffer> nnn
[11:20] <vmlemon> Anyone know how to reset a forgotten password for the main user account?
[11:20] <vmlemon> It's set to autologin, but I've forgotten my password so I can't change it
[11:20] <malikeye> vmlemon: you need to boot in rescue mode or whatever
[11:20] <vmlemon> Thanks
[11:21] <niekie> vmlemon, when you do that:
[11:21] <malikeye> bascially get root access and passwd $user
[11:21] <fatlip> okay i get booted out of X everytime i maximize something
[11:21] <niekie> Just enter passwd yourusername
[11:21] <vmlemon> malikeye: can I do it with sudo?
[11:21] <niekie> then set the new password
[11:21] <niekie> vmlemon, yes.
[11:21] <malikeye> vmlemon: you'll need your password for that
[11:21] <niekie> When you boot in recovery mode, you get root access.
[11:21] <niekie> malikeye, not if he boots in recovery mode ;)
[11:22] <malikeye> unless you set your sudo up to not ask for a password
[11:22] <malikeye> niekie: yeah, I know
[11:22] <malikeye> fatlip: bad upgrade ?
[11:23] <malikeye> niekie: but s/he might not even need to use rescue if sudo is open
[11:23] <malikeye> which it's not be default
[11:23] <malikeye> s/be/by/
[11:23] <niekie> Heh.
[11:23] <normmac> is there any way to get the Fn key to work so i can enable my wireless card, and control my brightness
[11:23] <madman91> how do i isntall wine with apt-get ... i put the repo in .. but it doesnt conncet.. thats the only one on my repo list that doesnt connect
[11:23] <malikeye> normmac: thinkpad ?
[11:23] <normmac> gatewat
[11:23] <normmac> *gateway
[11:23] <malikeye> hmm
[11:24] <fatlip> malikeye: yes, bad upgrade
[11:24] <malikeye> dunno of there are drivers for that
[11:24] <fatlip> now ubuntu is hating me :(
[11:24] <normmac> or anyway to enable my wireless card and my brightness
[11:24] <malikeye> fatlip: what'd you use to upgrade ? synaptic ?
[11:24] <normmac> i dont need to use the fn key
[11:24] <fatlip> yeah
[11:24] <normmac> i jsut dont know another way
[11:24] <fatlip> capplets-data is the corrupt bugger
[11:24] <malikeye> fatlip: try : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:24] <BjoeHrn> Hey
[11:24] <fatlip> did that
[11:24] <BjoeHrn> Does anyone use Edgy an xChat?
[11:24] <ApesMa> I upgraded from Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake to Edgy Eft, but the system didn't automatically change xorg.conf to reflect the presence of a Wacom graphire3. Do I have to track down the required settings and edit it myself, or is there a way to force it to set xorg up for me?
[11:25] <malikeye> synaptic has problems with dependencies, I think
[11:25] <BjoeHrn> *and
[11:25] <fatlip> and the problem lies in dist-upgrade
[11:25] <IndyGUnFreak> back up and try a clean install.
[11:25] <fatlip> says to try "dpkg --configure -a" and when i do that
[11:25] <fatlip> it complains about capplets-data not being configured correctly.. and something about inodes
[11:25] <ifwr> how do I tell abcde to structure the output directory.  I tried using a relative path, I tried using ~/user/mp3/ and I tried using an absolute path, but it always says "/path/ is a directory"
[11:25] <wastrel> is there a web calendar type interface for evolution data server?
[11:26] <ApesMa> IndyGUnFreak: thanks, will give it a try.
[11:26] <malikeye> fatlip: inodes ? uh oh
[11:26] <normmac> ok is there anyway to enable a wireless card that normally needs the fn key to be enabled?
[11:26] <fatlip> :(
[11:26] <fatlip> corrupt filesystem, right?
[11:26] <malikeye> boot into a livecd and start fscking
[11:26] <fatlip> already did that
[11:26] <fatlip> it fixed all the errors
[11:26] <malikeye> damn
[11:26] <ubuntu> hey
[11:26] <fatlip> but now ubuntu is fsck'd ;)
[11:27] <malikeye> can you uninstall capplets-data ?
[11:27] <ubuntu> is someone know how to run Kerio mail on UBuntu
[11:27] <fatlip> it'll take gnome with it
[11:27] <malikeye> oh well :)
[11:27] <fatlip> is there a way to kill out capplets-data and leave everything else?
[11:27] <Nina_> I need help with my NVIDIA GFX (the open gl)   --- >     glxinfo | grep direct  returns:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:27] <Nina_> What do i do ?
[11:28] <pucko-> nina, I would guess that you need to reconfigure xserver-xorg and include GLX
[11:28] <fatlip> no?
[11:29] <malikeye> you try apt-get --fix-broken ?
[11:29] <fatlip> i will try that now
[11:29] <Nina_> pucko- : id love to if i knew how (are you swede btw...looking at your name)
[11:29] <fatlip> wait, is that really an option?
[11:29] <malikeye> man says it is
[11:29] <madman91> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd 64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:29] <madman91>  ...  If Berly is started xchat can't use the speaker to make a "beep" also the terminal makes no beep when i press TAB anymore
[11:31] <Rug> I am trying to mount my USB key (which was working fine before I reinstalled my system) and I am getting an error message in mount.  "unknown filesystem type: vfat"     wtf??
[11:32] <Nina_> mer n vad jag visste, tack ubotu
[11:32] <Rug> isn't vfat built into the kernel?
[11:32] <malikeye> Rug: it should be
[11:32] <fatlip> now what
[11:32] <malikeye> Rug: you know what disk it is ?
[11:32] <Rug> malikeye: =)
[11:32] <madman91> Rug: i am no expert... try choosing 'auto' as the fs type
[11:32] <katona> i'am search compiler for hungary-English
[11:32] <malikeye> fatlip: yer screwed ? ;)
[11:32] <fatlip> figured as much lol
[11:32] <Rug> it is /dev/sdc1
[11:32] <Rug> madman91: auto doesn't work
[11:33] <fatlip> oh well.. i guess i'll do kubuntu this time.. i tend to go back and forth on installs
[11:33] <malikeye> Rug:  fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[11:33] <vmlemon> Thanks, in the end, I decided to use my Gentoo CD and chroot in
[11:33] <malikeye> fatlip: you try xubuntu yet ?
[11:33] <fatlip> yes
[11:33] <wastrel> gentoo eh
[11:33] <fatlip> its beautifully simple
[11:33] <markoutther1> Does anyone know of a good network discovery program I can run on Ubuntu that will map a network with a diagram and other details?
[11:33] <malikeye> I like it much better than kde
[11:33] <madman91> wine isnt in any of my repos.. ?
[11:33] <fatlip> i think i might do what i did the first time i ran edgy
[11:33] <vmlemon> wastrel: Yeah
[11:33] <madman91> and their repo doesnt work
[11:33] <fatlip> gnome + kde = :)
[11:33] <fatlip> some call it overkill
[11:33] <Rug> malikeye: what do you want to know?  (I can't copy/paste, I'm cli only right now)
[11:33] <fatlip> i call it pretty
[11:34] <malikeye> Rug: does it show a vfat filesystem ?
[11:34] <wastrel> markoutther1:  apt-cache search "network discovery"
[11:34] <Rug> malikeye: System:  W95 FAST32
[11:34] <Rug> ack
[11:34] <Rug> FAT32
[11:34] <malikeye> hmm
[11:34] <malikeye> and you can't mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test ?
[11:34] <Rug> malikeye: nope
[11:35] <ivanoats> hi - I'm totally stuck, I did something to xorg.conf and now I can't even get to a shell...I tried alt-f4 and other f keys?
[11:35] <Rug> I can't fsck either
[11:35] <un_operateur> ivanoats, CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:35] <kitche> ivanoats: try ctrl+alt+f1
[11:35] <malikeye> you can't fsck a vfat filesystem I don't think
[11:35] <katona_> anybody know neurotran program for win??
[11:35] <Rug> ivanoats: try ctrl + alt + F2-F6
[11:35] <IndyGUnFreak> neurotran?..
[11:35] <katona_> yes
[11:35] <Rug> malikeye: it was worth I try I figured
[11:35] <malikeye> Rug: can you pastebin it for the hell of it ?
[11:36] <fatlip> luckily i keep everything in /home ;)
[11:36] <SyncopatedFool> what packages do i need to get windows media files to stream in firefox?
[11:36] <phud> fun
[11:36] <malikeye> fatlip: yeah, and a nice fileserver would be good :)
[11:36] <Rug> malikeye: no, I'm CLI only.  No mouse
[11:36] <un_operateur> !wmv | SyncopatedFool
[11:36] <ubotu> SyncopatedFool: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <pucko-> hello. which process in ubuntu is responsible for finding and loading kernelmodules during boot in ubuntu? for some reason my modprobe config wont work correctly during boot (but it works when I modprobe it afterwards)
[11:36] <katona_> that's is a language compiler
[11:36] <fatlip> i got my NAS i'm backing up to :)
[11:36] <malikeye> nice
[11:36] <malikeye> what kind ?
[11:36] <fatlip> homebrew
[11:36] <fatlip> lol
[11:36] <un_operateur> pucko-, /etc/modules
[11:36] <ivanoats> no login prompts - just error messages
[11:36] <Rug> fatlip: best kind
[11:36] <IndyGUnFreak> How come X-Chat always goes to Konq as my defau;t browser
[11:36] <malikeye> nice.... got a 1.2TB gentoo box here, works awesome
[11:37] <fatlip> unfortunately its running windows
[11:37] <malikeye> software raid5 is great
[11:37] <Rug> a gentoo box runing Windows.  ;-P
[11:37] <fatlip> i've had the highest success rate recovering NTFS drives as opposed to fat/ext3
[11:37] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, x-chat sends me to epiphany
[11:37] <IndyGUnFreak> lol
[11:37] <fatlip> i was going to make this a 2TB box, but i didnt have enough room in the case =/
[11:37] <IndyGUnFreak> well, i just double checked, my default browser is Firefox 2.0
[11:37] <malikeye> fatlip: I used JFS for years... I replaced like 3 drives and it worked great... using XFS now
[11:38] <fatlip> so now i just have some HDDs laying around =D
[11:38] <pucko-> un_operateur, that doesn't help me.
[11:38] <Rug> fatlip: do what I did.   Build a cluster, and just and more computers
[11:38] <un_operateur> pucko-, ok, that doesnt say much? how does it not help you?
[11:38] <malikeye> fatlip: there are some nice external sata enclosures these days... cheap too
[11:38] <fatlip> well thats why i built this in the first place, to reduce the amount of running computers
[11:38] <IndyGUnFreak> hey, i know, i've got a question.
[11:38] <IndyGUnFreak> unfortunatley i can't test it just yet.
[11:39] <CorpseFeeder> help me! I am trying to install edgy on Asus 88n sli motherboard. The ubuntu logo on black screen comes up then the screen goes all stripes and garbage and I can't see s*#t
[11:39] <IndyGUnFreak> but i've got a customer who i've had for several years, she's giving me a laptop her late husband had, because as she put it, "she can't even turn it on"..
[11:39] <IndyGUnFreak> well, will NDIswrapper allow me to use any wireless device?
[11:39] <fatlip> this means i'm gunna have to re-install xgl
[11:39] <CorpseFeeder> motherboard is A8N Sli
[11:39] <fatlip> damn beryl
[11:39] <malikeye> fatlip: install ? do you have an nvidia card ?
[11:39] <ivanoats> ktiche, Rug, un_operatueur - none of those worked... just some screens are blank with a flashing cursor, some have error messages like cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:03.0
[11:40] <fatlip> maybe this time i'll just do it properly with aiglx
[11:40] <KING_LEORIK> FUCK
[11:40] <rogue780> I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!" can someone help me with this?
[11:40] <IndyGUnFreak> lol
[11:40] <fatlip> KING_LEORIK: cant be THAT bad
[11:40] <IndyGUnFreak> thats what i thought fatlip...lol
[11:40] <fatlip> unless he lost like gigs and gigs of home-made porn
[11:40] <fatlip> then yeah, that deserves it
[11:40] <fatlip> happened to me once :( except it wasnt gigs and gigs
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> well. i guess that could happen
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> thats why its good to keep quality backups
[11:41] <KING_LEORIK>    !!!
[11:41] <bulio> in ubuntu, where is wine's C:\ dir?
[11:41] <fatlip> lol!
[11:41] <PriceChild> LjL,
[11:41] <KING_LEORIK>
[11:41] <KING_LEORIK>   !
[11:41] <CorpseFeeder> i can't install edgy. save me
[11:41] <fatlip> hello wrong keyboard layout
[11:41] <kitche> KING_LEORIK: how about don't use UTF-8
[11:41] <name_> where is esddsp in ubu?
[11:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell KING_LEORIK about ru | KING_LEORIK, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:41] <LjL> !en
[11:41] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:42] <KING_LEORIK> kitche:
[11:42] <Flannel> bulio: in your home dir.  ~/.wine/ ... um, and then you'll see it
[11:42] <KING_LEORIK> kitche:
[11:42] <bulio> Flannel,  thanks
[11:42] <fatlip> lol
[11:42] <Rug> bulio: ~/.wine/
[11:42] <malikeye> smart bot
[11:42] <CorpseFeeder> how dop I start the installer without the graphical interface, cos it just ain't working....!???
[11:42] <IndyGUnFreak> bulio, make sure you click "View, then Show hidden files"
[11:42] <name_> in which package there is esddsp
[11:42] <fatlip> i think before i reinstall ubuntu i'm gunna try osx ;)
[11:42] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: get the alternate CD
[11:42] <malikeye> fatlip: you have supported hardware ?
[11:42] <thcrw8383> How can i start programs automaticly in KDE?
[11:43] <juano> hello every1
[11:43] <fatlip> yeah
[11:43] <fatlip> prescott =D
[11:43] <CorpseFeeder> isn't there anyway I can just disable the graphics on the normal install CD?
[11:43] <deep`> Is there any putty alteratives?
[11:43] <malikeye> I had it running WAY back... was slow as hell
[11:43] <katona_> nobody don't know neurotran , and don't help me?
[11:43] <fatlip> same here
[11:43] <Flannel> deep`: for.... ubuntu?
[11:43] <fatlip> but this is a new box
[11:43] <wastrel> deep`:  ssh in terminal
[11:43] <juano> for package forwarding in ubuntu? iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT?
[11:43] <malikeye> deep: putty is a terminal, as is gnome-terminal / konsole / Terminal
[11:43] <fatlip> and i decided to go with pretty over useful
[11:43] <fatlip> and went iwth a shuttle case
[11:44] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no.  The desktop CD knows nothing but the liveCD
[11:44] <normmac> whats the default root password
[11:44] <Flannel> !root | normmac, there is none, root is disabled.
[11:44] <ubotu> normmac, there is none, root is disabled.: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:44] <apokryphos> normmac: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[11:44] <CorpseFeeder> oh crap then :(
[11:44] <n2diy> normmac: your passwd
[11:44] <normmac> ok
[11:44] <fatlip> half hour til this backup is done
[11:44] <normmac> thanks
[11:44] <fatlip> i suppose i'll go take a shower considering its already almost 6PM
[11:44] <ivanoats> can I boot ubuntu into a text shell mode? I just need to replace my xorg.conf file with a backup I made
[11:45] <malikeye> deep`: sorry, it's not a terminal, it's an SSH client... but you should be able to just open any terminal and use ssh ... there is a putty linux port out there though
[11:45] <kitche> deep: no there is not any alternatives but what putty can do can be done in shell or a terminal
[11:45] <CorpseFeeder> There is a working Dapper installation on this computer... can I use the Edgy live CD to upgrade that?
[11:45] <PriceChild> ivanoats, once booted, CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:45] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no, you can use the edgy alternate CD though
[11:45] <malikeye> !putty
[11:45] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:45] <fatlip> putty is sweet
[11:45] <dm_> Anyone know a good mp3 editor that can increase the volume on that MP3
[11:45] <ivanoats> PriceChild, I tried that, it didn't work - gives an error PCI: Cannot allocate resource region
[11:45] <deep`> malikeye, yep, i know. ( : but i need an alternative anyway :D
[11:45] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[11:45] <Gosha> !bluetooth
[11:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:46] <wastrel> anyone know of a web calendar type interface with evolution?
[11:46] <malikeye> deep`: what do you mean by alternative ?
[11:46] <Flannel> deep`: an alternative for putty in *nix? or in windows?  or what?
[11:46] <PriceChild> ivanoats, that's very odd.... I haven't a clue why you've got that... but you can still load a live cd and mount the drive to edit it....
[11:46] <fatlip> okay i'm gunna go shower -- thanks for the help attempt!
[11:46] <malikeye> fatlip: good lucj :)
[11:46] <PriceChild> ivanoats, that still needs fixing though...
[11:46] <malikeye> luckeven
[11:46] <deep`> malikeye; like "bitvise", like someone said. :)
[11:46] <deep`> Flannel, windows.
[11:46] <dm_> Anyone know a good mp3 editor that can increase the volume on that MP3
[11:47] <deep`> The thing is, i have a domain using utf-8 characters, and putty cant translate them..
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> How do you clear an IP address on Ubuntu Edgy... here's the problem I had.
[11:47] <Flannel> deep`: yes it can.  Set your char encoding to utf-8
[11:47] <ppd> hi
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> esterday, my ISP went down, when it was restarted, i couldn't get my router to recognize the connection anymore
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> but straight to PC, it was fine
[11:47] <BlueEagle> deep`: did you set it to use utf-8 under "Translation"?
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> so i assume i need to clear the IP, and set it to re-recognize it.
[11:48] <kitche> IndyGUnFreak: you might had to unplug your router and replug it in it works most of the time
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> hmm, never thougt of that
[11:48] <malikeye> IndyGUnFreak: what do you mean clear it ? reset your modem
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> no...
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> here's what i think happened
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> i think when the ISP went down, it either reassigned me a new IP address or something
[11:48] <deep`> Flannel, BlueEagle, that not translating the domain, i've tried, just works when your actually "typing stuff on the computer"
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> and my router lost track of all that.
[11:48] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifupeth0; /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[11:48] <malikeye> IndyGUnFreak: did you power cycle both the modem and the router ?
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> of course malikeye
[11:49] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, oops, typo -- sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> even reset them both
[11:49] <ppd> is there a tool, beside easytag. that crawls a mp3/ogg collection, removes duplicates and then renames all the files in a given way?
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> un, what exactly does that to?
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> oh i get it, nevermind
[11:49] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, flaps the interface and restarts the networking daemon
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> IFdown, takes downt he address
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> ifdup, reassigns
[11:49] <malikeye> flaps... I just learned that term a couple weeks ago :)
[11:49] <PriceChild> ppd, I use amarok to manage my collection.... I think it does all that
[11:50] <PriceChild> ppd, not sure on the removing duplicates automatically... I think it should find them for you
[11:50] <ppd> PriceChild, does ist rename the files?
[11:50] <un_operateur> malikeye, it wasnt at a cisco class was it? :)
[11:50] <PriceChild> ppd, It DEFINATELY renames and reorganises files how you want it
[11:50] <malikeye> un_operateur: it came from the switch :)
[11:50] <malikeye> 2950 most likely
[11:50] <juano> anyone know how to route with Ubuntu?
[11:51] <ppd> PriceChild, interesting. you don't happen to know a gtk equivalent that does the same? rythmbox does not as far as I can see
[11:51] <Unix> hi
[11:51] <un_operateur> malikeye, ahh maybe -- they use the term a lot when they deal with ISDN interfaces
[11:51] <Unix> anyone know if there is a software to synchronise samsung D520 with ubuntu
[11:51] <malikeye> un_operateur: I believe it was a nagios report
[11:52] <malikeye> about the switch
[11:53] <PriceChild> ppd, i use amarok in gnome.... i really think it looks fine
[11:53] <blinx> how I can update python 2.4 to 2.5 without problems?
[11:53] <PriceChild> ppd, amarok is THE music player IMO
[11:53] <PriceChild> blinx, you can't "without problems"
[11:53] <malikeye> ppd: exaile is a gtk clone
[11:53] <blinx> PriceChild: hm
[11:53] <blinx> PriceChild: little problems?
[11:53] <malikeye> ppd: of amarok
[11:53] <PriceChild> blinx, ?
[11:53] <blinx> I'm using a server with ubuntu edgy 64
[11:53] <ppd> malikeye, PriceChild, thank you. I'll have a look
[11:54] <un_operateur> blinx, errm, you'll have to find out? I wouldn't do it unless I really really needed 2.5
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: how can I do that?!
[11:54] <sky_sky_sky> hi
[11:54] <blinx> I want to minimize the used memory
[11:54] <PriceChild> blinx, it will require recompiling a LOT of packages
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: how many time is needed?
[11:54] <PriceChild> blinx, then upgrading isn't worth it
[11:54] <sky_sky_sky> hi
[11:54] <sky_sky_sky> :)
[11:54] <PriceChild> blinx, not just time but effort knowlede etc.
[11:54] <apokryphos> hello
[11:54] <PriceChild> sky_sky_sky, heya
[11:54] <malikeye> python is picky... upgrading can be bad
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: I will do it
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: what I have to do?
[11:55] <PriceChild> blinx, I don't think  you understand how much work this would be
[11:55] <PriceChild> blinx, I doubt you'll get less memory usage either
[11:55] <blinx> PriceChild: I installed gentoo some time before
[11:55] <malikeye> you will need to recompile all packages that use python
[11:55] <blinx> I needed 2 days
[11:55] <juano> anyone know how to forward packages from eth0 to eth1?>
[11:55] <malikeye> !homerouter
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about homerouter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <juano> i have dhcp working good, but no internet on the other comp
[11:55] <blinx> PriceChild: mh, the py community told me that...
[11:55] <malikeye> !routing
[11:56] <PriceChild> blinx, wow... so have I... and I wouldn't recompile python in ubuntu
[11:56] <normmac> ok so i installed drivers using ndiswrappper for my wireless card, but i can't enable the card because it needs the Fn key to enable it, anyway to fix this?
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about routing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <malikeye> !route
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <juano> k thanks
[11:56] <malikeye> no love
[11:56] <PriceChild> normmac, you don't really need the Fn key ;)
[11:56] <normmac> how do you do it then?
[11:56] <blinx> PriceChild: ok. I have only 192mb memory in my xen instance, lighty with trac + moin is running
[11:57] <blinx> but if I want to use some php things, I will get problems, all memory is used
[11:57] <zOrK> how can I share internet with pc 2 running on ubuntu?
[11:57] <blinx> how can I minimize that?
[11:57] <zOrK> and pc1 running on ubuntu as well
[11:57] <normmac> PreiceChild, how do you enabel it without the Fn key?
[11:57] <UPC> hi
[11:57] <UPC> is there anything bad with using "apt-get" instead of "aptitude" ?  I just like  "apt-get" more but I heard   "aptitude" would be better for the system.  Whats the truth?
[11:57] <LjL> Ubotu, tell UPC about aptitude | UPC, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:57] <malikeye> they are both better than synaptic
[11:57] <thoreauputic> UPC: aptitude is smarter
[11:57] <PriceChild> blinx, I do not know every package that will need recompiling... but its every package that depends on python
[11:57] <malikeye> apt-get supossedly has better dep checks
[11:58] <LjL> UPC: note that the automatic removal of dependencies is now implemented in Edgy's apt-get, too
[11:58] <thoreauputic> malikeye: other way around
[11:58] <malikeye> hmmm
[11:58] <PriceChild> blinx, you will need to grab the source for it all and know ALL the configuration flags you need for each
[11:58] <smithj> is there a way to get commit mail for ubuntu packages?
[11:58] <blinx> oO
[11:58] <UPC> LjL: so apt-get and aptitude won't make a difference any more?
[11:58] <alecjw> UPC: aptitude automatically removes pacakges which were installd as dependencies, but aren't needed
[11:58] <Gosha> gah! i cant get my bluetooth to work >_<
[11:58] <un_operateur> UPC, aptitude remembers dependencies of packages, so that when you remove the original package it suggests you remove the unneeded dependencies too
[11:58] <malikeye> maybe I was reading a comparison between apt-get and synaptic only
[11:58] <blinx> PriceChild: do you have a link of a howto?
[11:58] <Gosha> .. i can send blutooth stuff via the obex push thing .. but cant recieve anythin
[11:58] <Gosha> g
[11:59] <LjL> UPC: well, that's not completely true. i don't really know the details, but i'm pretty sure the autoremoval, right now, does *not* work in exactly the same way in apt-get vs aptitude
[11:59] <OkinawaInstructo> can someone help me set up a Lexmark X125 printer.. i have it set up, and it acts like its printing but when the paper comes out its a bunch of jiberish
[11:59] <LjL> (namely, aptitude's works better, but anyway)
[11:59] <UPC> I only found out on dapper that there were programs which with unsolved dependecies using aptitude,  but they were installable with apt-get
[11:59] <PriceChild> blinx, there is no howto...
[11:59] <blinx> PriceChild: hm
[11:59] <PriceChild> blinx, you _just_ don't do this
[11:59] <un_operateur> blinx, have you tried this -- sudo aptitude install python=2.5    or  sudo aptitude install python2.5  ?
[12:00] <PriceChild> is python2.5 in the repos for him?
[12:00] <blinx> un_operateur: no, I asked before
[12:00] <ToHellWithGA> i need to add refresh rates to the list provided by gnome.  i have my horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges set properly in xorg.conf but only see 60Hz when picking a resolution.
[12:00] <malikeye> I have seen apt-get install more stuff than aptitude would have, but I don't remove stuff regularly, so I am not sure about reverse dep resolution
[12:00] <blinx> it is in the repos
[12:00] <PriceChild> argh
[12:00] <UPC> ok so I will use aptitude
[12:00] <UPC> thank you guys!
[12:00] <PriceChild> blinx, then uninstall 2.4 and install 2.5....
[12:00] <LjL> malikeye: actually, that's the reverse too... since, by default, aptitude installs Recommends as well as Depends, while apt-get does not
[12:00] <Pelo> ok I have very nearly been able to restore all my settings,  execpt for  the evolution stuff ,  I need more help


[08:34] <JackYu> hi everyone, I submitted two sponsor requests for two new packages at bug #1203958 and bug  #1203931,  would you please help me to upload them?


[10:27] <rmg51> Morning
[13:10] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys?, hamsters and everything else
[14:06] <Sadin> ah longtime no see


[12:44] <jchittum> maybe an odd question, but is there some "simple" thing i can add to cloud-init user-data that will _definitely_ cause cloud-init to fail and report an error?
[13:15] <minimal> jchittum: when you say "fail and report an error" exactly what do you mean? If your user-data includes some incorrect setting values then you will get schema error messages both in the cloud-init.log and on the console. What type of failure are you wanting?
[13:20] <cjp256> holmanb: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/2091
[13:20] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Pull 2091 in canonical/cloud-init "unittests/sources: patch util.get_cmdline() for datasource tests" [Open]
[13:25] <jchittum> pretty much anything that will do `cloud-init status : error` and have `cloud-init status --format json` have things in `{errors:[]}`, in a reliable fashion.
[13:26] <jchittum> i'm working on better Ubuntu cloud-image integration tests (the tests run on images, not cloud-init), and want to make sure I am suitably capturing the errors so i can bubble them up in our tests
[13:39] <holmanb> cjp256: Thanks!
[13:39] <cjp256> added another one for vmware but unrelated to the other change
[13:41] <cjp256> didn't figure out why that one works otherwise https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/2092
[13:41] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Pull 2092 in canonical/cloud-init "tests/vmware: fix test_no_data_access_method failure" [Open]
[13:42] <jchittum> i think i have a reliable thing for me to test our error handling and bubbling up. i since i know `resize2fs` is unhappy in lunar, ran lunar and a runcmd that's `resize2fs` over and over again 🤣
[13:46] <aciba[m]> jchittum: invalid/deprecated user-data is not treated as a hard error (to keep backwards compatibility), and it is not included in the output of cloud-init status (I think). one can manually run cloud-init schema --system to check it
[22:04] <holmanb> rfc related to command line parsing and nocloud: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/2093
[22:04] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Pull 2093 in canonical/cloud-init "Standardize NoCloud Command Line Parsing" [Open]
[23:03] <blackboxsw> two fun PRS for desktop live installer to make desktop environments execute cloud-init.service after NetworkManager: https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/439585  https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/439586
[23:04] <blackboxsw> our desktop installer live iso needs to order after NetworkManager.service so any autoinstall nocloud directives can properly resolve FQDNs which could be provided on the kernel cmdline


[00:38] <darkxst> meh, gnome-shell get stuck maximised
[00:38] <darkxst> err gnome-terminal
[00:40] <jbicha> GNOME doesn't really coordinate their releases very well
[00:41] <jbicha> gnome-desktop needs gnome-shell which needs mutter which needs an unreleased cogl, and gnome-control-center is 2 days late
[00:41] <darkxst> lol
[00:42] <jbicha> I blame jhbuild for making these broken dependencies easy for maintainers
[00:44] <darkxst> thats about it!
[00:46] <darkxst> and again they will probably have to do another .1 g-s release
[01:03] <darkxst> jbicha, g-s update http://pastebin.com/azupx0pw
[01:18] <arcadia> Hello?
[01:43] <darkxst> jbicha, once we have a RC release of new spidermonkey can we land it in raring?
[01:47] <jbicha> darkxst: we need to discuss that with some other people, probably #ubuntu-desktop during the europe day
[01:48] <jbicha> I had an alternate idea that we could create a mozjs185 source for stuff that wouldn't work with the new version and keep mozjs for the new one
[02:05] <darkxst> jbicha, yeh that would work
[20:18] <darkxst> ricotz, can you repackage mozjs using this tarball? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735599#c38
[20:49] <ricotz> darkxst, oh, nice
[21:59] <darkxst> gnome-devel-docs http://pastebin.com/9MUczD8Z
[22:00] <darkxst> libgweather http://pastebin.com/6YVKeUJ4
[22:05] <darkxst> gnome-contacts fails, because both versions of Gee get pulled in, contacts requires gee-0.8, but libfolks uses gee2
[22:06] <darkxst> how can I stop that?
[22:12] <jbicha> I think that means you need to build folks against gee-0.8 first
[22:17] <darkxst> ah right, so need to update folks to 0.9 then
[22:54] <darkxst> jbicha, libgee 0.8.4 update could straight into raring?
[22:59] <ricotz> darkxst, hi
[22:59] <darkxst> hi
[22:59] <ricotz> i had a look at the mozjs tarball
[22:59] <ricotz> you are already aware of the missing symlinks irc
[23:00] <darkxst> ricotz, you mean the lib.so.0 etc links?
[23:00] <ricotz> but the library itself is broken while you dropped important LDOPTS
[23:00] <ricotz> (yes those)
[23:00] <darkxst> they wont upstream those links
[23:01] <ricotz> ok, but bug812265-setup-versioning_3.patch is broken
[23:01] <darkxst> ricotz, how so?
[23:02] <ricotz> i guess you ignored this line:
[23:02] <ricotz> $(SHARED_LIBRARY): EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS += -Wl,-soname,$(notdir $(SHLIB_ABI_VER))
[23:02] <jbicha> darkxst: yes for new libgee
[23:02] <ricotz> darkxst, this is needed EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS += -Wl,-soname,$(LIBRARY_NAME).so
[23:03] <ricotz> or something like that
[23:03] <ricotz> i am not sure yet
[23:03] <ricotz> this buildsys is quite annoying ;)
[23:04] <darkxst> ricotz, yes, even the mozilla people don't really understand it :)
[23:05] <ricotz> that is a pity
[23:05] <darkxst> they want to dump all the Makefiles in the future however
[23:09] <ricotz> i see
[23:20] <ricotz> darkxst, will push it to my staging ppa and hoping the best
[23:29] <darkxst> ricotz, did the above EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS work ?
[23:38] <ricotz> "EXTRA_DSO_LDOPTS += -Wl,-soname,lib$(LIBRARY_NAME).so.0" works, but i guess this won't work for upstream
[23:38] <ricotz> btw gjs build fine against it
[23:44] <darkxst> ricotz, so that is not required upstream then?
[23:44] <ricotz> it is required but not with this name if the symlinks are not wanted
[23:45] <ricotz> but it will actually only work with proper symlinks
[23:45] <darkxst> ok, so just with lib.so
[23:45] <darkxst> oh
[23:46] <ricotz> ld requires an soname e.g. ".0"
[23:46] <ricotz> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html
[23:47] <ricotz> not following this isnt right, and upstream should adapt to it, like they did before
[23:48] <ricotz> why was it is removed anyway?
[23:48] <ricotz> i mean from the patches
[23:49] <ricotz> darkxst, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/staging/+packages
[23:50] <ricotz> jbicha, ^
[23:50] <ricotz> mozjs17 should be something to get into raring
[23:53] <jbicha> I can't make that decision, you'll need to see what the other Ubuntu devs think
[23:53] <ricotz> right
[23:54] <jbicha> it sounds promising though
[23:55] <ricotz> yes, in regards of speeding up gnome-shell
[23:59] <darkxst> ricotz, they claimed that lib.x.y.so is equivalent to lib.so.x.y


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 But the JVM just isn't sexy.
 It's only useful on desktop and server, but you can barely cram it onto a pi
 Jvm works on pi.  You can play Minecraft for days.
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 @AdamOutler Pi Zero?
 @RazPi I don't see why not.  If you keep the code to a single class, you can use gcj to compile a native executable.  Otherwise the pi zero is basically the same as the full pi, with less overhead and ram.  Minecraft pi edition ran on the pi.
 Pi zero == pi 1
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