[01:00] <nykur> Hello! Has anyone else had problems with fsck's being run at every boot?
[01:01] <nykur> Any help would be much appreciated :-)
[01:04] <phillw> nykur: I heard of it, but fsck will not run each time unless your hard drive is dying.
[01:05] <nykur> guess it's possible, but unlikely. fairly new SSD.
[01:05] <phillw> nykur: I'll go and have dig on the forum area
[01:06] <nykur> cheers phillw
[01:10] <phillw> I've done better, got forum staffers to have a look, but it should really not be happening unless you power down your computer without using the command in lubuntu
[01:12] <phillw> nykur: some SSD's are what we call "Dead on Arrival", so this is going to be a really hard call to make.
[01:14] <nykur> yeah, well, I guess you can overwrite the cycles, but I think that's unlikely in slightly over a year, and it has been working well for all that time
[01:15] <phillw> nykur: the staffers are looking up for you, I've also asked the robot overlord to have a check for you.
[01:16] <nykur> these fsck's started to happen after an update, so I'm leaning towards something Lubuntu is doing at boot level. my fstab's looking pretty normal though
[01:16] <nykur> thanks man
[01:17] <phillw> (01:15:29) xxxxxxxxx: I resolved the issue by booting into recovery mode and running the scan
[01:17] <nykur> it wouldn't let me, claiming the disk was mounted...??
[01:17] <phillw> nykur: that is the advice I have been given.
[01:18] <phillw> nykur: use the live cd
[01:18] <nykur> ok thanks, will do. So this is a heard of issue then?
[01:20] <phillw> i've heard of it, but it is always a disk Vs fsck issue. Untill the two are happy fsck will try and run and repair the disk.
[01:20] <nykur> well, just realized, recovery mode and livecd aren't the same, did they not say recovery mode? So that must mean they ran one despite the mount warning?
[01:21] <phillw> nykur: fsck hates to 'lose' a hard drive and will do anything to save it.
[01:21] <nykur> heeh true
[01:22] <nykur> I'm guessing the live usb will resolve any inconsistency anyway
[01:22] <phillw> nykur: that's why it was written and why you were correct in asking about it having an issue.
[01:22] <nykur> true story:-)
[01:23] <nykur> Many thanks for the support:-)
[01:23] <phillw> nykur: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <phillw> oops
[01:24] <phillw> nope
[01:24] <nykur> ?
[01:24] <phillw> nykur: /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[01:24] <nykur> ok hang on...
[02:04] <nykur> has anyone compiled libre office on lubuntu?
[02:05] <nykur> am in dependancy hell, right now prompted to install gtk+ libraries
[10:02] <audio> Hi all.
[10:02] <bioterror> hi
[10:02] <audio> When using gvfs is it possible change the default location for mounts of remote shares from ~/.gvfs to a different directory?
[10:03] <audio> For example ~/Desktop or just ~.
[10:04] <bioterror> you can use smbfs
[10:04] <bioterror> and mount samba shares where you want with your fstab
[10:05] <audio> bioterror: Prefer not to use fixed mounts via fstab
[10:06] <audio> Both GIgolo and gvfs provide graphical means but create mounts in ~/.gvfs which is not very user friendly.
[10:07] <audio> Gigolo seem to use gvfs and also conducts auto connection to the shares
[10:07] <audio> Just need to get gvfs/Gigolo to create them in a location of my choice
[10:08] <bioterror> smbfs or fusesmb is what you're looking for
[10:09] <bioterror> gvfs works that way and there's no easy way out to make it work another way
[10:09] <bioterror> if you want it to act like nautilus, install nautilus
[10:10] <audio> Nautilus is a possibility but it is too heavyweight
[10:11] <audio> The only other idea I had was to create a script to create softlinks to the desired location when the remote shares are contacted.
[10:12] <audio> But scripting is not my best ability.
[10:26] <audio> Are there any scripting guru's around willing to help get me started with such a script?  I envisage it something like - Wait until directories appear in ~/.gvfs - Create a list of the directories - Feed the list to a for loop - The loop creates a softlink for each entry in list.
[10:27] <bioterror> make a symlink? :D
[10:27] <audio> yes that's what I meant by softlink
[10:28] <audio> oops.
[12:45] <tamme> hi
[12:46] <tamme> is it normal that lubuntu logs me out when I send my laptop to suspend mode?
[12:47] <hyperair> usually when that happens, it means X has crashed.
[12:47] <hyperair> i.e. crappy graphics driver and you're lucky it even resumed
[12:47] <tamme> ok
[12:48] <tamme> is there a simple way to fix this
[12:48] <tamme> ?
[12:53] <hyperair> nope =p
[12:53] <hyperair> well there is, really.
[12:53] <hyperair> the simplest way... is to not use a crap gpu
[12:53] <bioterror> does it really log you out
[12:53] <bioterror> normal behaviour is that it locks the screen
[12:54] <hyperair> bioterror: if X crashes, you're logged out.
[12:55] <tamme> I'm using a T23 with a S3 Inc. SuperSavage IX/C SDR
[12:57] <hyperair> O_o
[12:59] <tamme> yes I know its old ;)
[13:00] <bioterror> it has a com port
[13:00] <bioterror> I accept it! ;D
[13:02] <tamme> yes :D
[13:14] <tamme> i think I've got a solution https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7767
[13:27] <head_victim> 620mb down, not long now.
[13:27] <bioterror> :)
[13:28] <head_victim> I think some people from the list started downloading it as well as the speed really has dropped off.
[13:31] <bioterror> :)
[13:37] <head_victim> Ah well I'll leave it overnight and have a go in the morning
[13:37] <head_victim> See you all later
[14:56] <audio> szczur: Are you around?
[14:56] <audio> szczur: Do you know if Lubuntu has a file that is the equivalent of /etc/rc.local that is run on each shutdown?
[14:56] <bioterror> actually not
[14:57] <bioterror> if I remember right
[14:58] <audio> bioterror: by "actually not" do you mean that there is no equivalent to /etc/rc.local?
[15:05] <szczur> audio, every ubuntu has /etc/rc.local file
[15:05] <szczur> at least mine has one
[15:05] <szczur> so you should have on etoo
[15:06] <audio> szczur: I was meaning the functional equivalent of /etc/rc.local which is run on each logoff/shutdown.
[15:08] <szczur> ypu can add acripts to the /etc/rc<runlevel>.d folders
[15:08] <szczur> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel#Linux
[15:09] <szczur> soo /etc/rc0.d is the folder with the set of scripts run while your PC is going to shut down
[15:11] <audio> szczur: Is that also used for logoff rather than shutdown?
[15:11] <szczur> naah
[15:12] <szczur> for log off... (gimme sec
[15:13] <szczur> you can edit files located in /etc/lxdm called PostLogin, PostLogout, PreLogin, PreReboot and PreShutdown
[15:13] <szczur> i think it is self explainable
[15:14] <szczur> every file is the bash script which by default does nothing
[15:14] <szczur> but you can add something to them
[15:15] <szczur> szczur@szczur:/etc/lxdm$ cat PostLogin
[15:15] <szczur> #!/bin/sh
[15:15] <szczur> #
[15:15] <szczur> # Note: this is a sample and will not be run as is.
[15:15] <audio> That sounds good. I'll investigate.  Thanks for the steer.
[15:15] <szczur> no problems
[21:26] <djs> I was just on 10.04 and it didn't have Update Manager? Installing 10.10 and I see it's there.
[21:27] <djs> Nice logo for launching main menu from the panel too
[21:29] <phillw> djs: The addition of update manager was a tortured decision, as it uses up precious resources. But it was finally decided that we do need it.
[21:30] <phillw> it was causing too many support enquiries not to have it on.
[21:30] <phillw> djs: glad you're enjoying lubuntu :)
[21:30] <djs> Thanks for the info
[21:31] <djs> It's great!
[22:28] <andrii> Hey
[22:28] <andrii> Anybody there?
[22:28] <kosaidpo> hello
[22:29] <phillw> wb andrii
[22:29] <andrii> I have a slight problem with my network. This occurred with both lubuntu and windows so I thought I might allow myself to post here but ATM I only have windows.
[22:29] <andrii> Thanks phillw :)
[22:29] <phillw> did you add the gvfs-backends package?
[22:30] <andrii> Well turns out this problem is still after reformatting to windows.
[22:30] <andrii> The thing is, this only concerns my PC, it's like that specific device doesn't have access to the router.
[22:31] <andrii> The router doesn't even recognize it as a device, it behaves just as the cable isn't connected. But is is, and they work (tested numerous times with other devices). Both OS' also identified the network device itself in the computer and the drivers are installed.
[22:32] <andrii> Am I asking in the wrong channel? :p
[22:34] <phillw> andrii: the two guys who have been working on networking issues are both off; I'm sorry that I cannot really help. I do know that for pcmanfm to do network stuff you need to add gvfs-backend.... I'll go look it up for you.
[22:34] <andrii> Well atm I haven't got Lubuntu installed.
[22:34] <andrii> I tried formatting the disk and tried windows instead.
[22:34] <andrii> Seems it's a shared problem.
[22:35] <phillw> andrii: I suspect that is a general issue on your computer / the kernel , #ubuntu-beginners may be more able to help, else #ubuntu (that channel is real busy).
[22:36] <andrii> Allright. I'll see what I can do. THanks :))
[22:37] <phillw> the forum area is also a great place to post, http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 is the network area
[22:37] <phillw> those people will be better able to help you.
[22:54] <andrii> Uhhhhhhhhhh
[22:54] <andrii> I found the weirded solution ever!
[22:54] <andrii> weirdest*
[22:54] <andrii> Turn off computer, unplug ethernet cable and power cable. Go away from computer for 30 seconds and come back and replug your stuff and boot.
[22:54] <andrii> Worked like a charm.
[22:55] <andrii> I had restarted router, power cycled router, restarted computer etc etc.
[22:57] <phillw> andrii: sometimes a cup of tea works wonderfully :)
[23:04] <andrii> haha
[23:04] <andrii> Truu
[23:10] <phillw> andrii: daft as it sounds, I'm currently doing support on the off-topic area, just reassuring a nervous user. I'm not ignoring you and feel to pop in to #lubuntu-offtopic
[23:12] <head_victim> phillw: installing 10.10 alternate now
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> what is the difference between desktop and alternate?
[23:29] <mark76> Alternate is for servers
[23:32] <head_victim> Alternate doesn't have Ubuquity installer, it's text only
[23:32] <head_victim> So it's easier to install on lower spec'ed computers.
[23:32] <head_victim> mark76: there are specific server versions and alternate can be used for servers but it's main focus is on desktop installations.
[23:38] <lontra> hi how can i enable full font hinting in lubuntu?
[23:42] <head_victim> lontra: there is currently no way to do it via a gui menu
[23:42] <head_victim> lontra: http://pinoy-computing-tips.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-enable-subpixel-font-rendering.html explains how to do it for 10.04 and should work ok with 10.10 as well
[23:42] <lontra> head_victim, how can i do it via a terminal?
[23:42] <lontra> ok
[23:43] <head_victim> Good question though, I hadn't thought of that myself.
[23:44] <lontra> fonts are so fuzzy for me w/o full font hinting
[23:49] <lontra> ok brb
[23:51] <lontra> didn't work :(
[23:56] <head_victim> Hm
[23:58] <phillw> hiyas gilir seems the alternate cd is working well, and while head_victim is here, he's one of the new Lubuntueers / UBT people and is also familiar with wiki, so is going to post the notes up for it :)


[02:24]  * tsimonq2 kicks wxl
[02:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: IT'S NOT IRC :O
[02:43] <tsimonq2> wxl: also, I finally have the time and the ability to use my i386 machine for testing! \o/
[02:43] <tsimonq2> wxl: working on Trusty testing as soon as the image downloads
[22:05] <lynorian> speaking of trusty was trusty not supposed to seed xfsprogs ?


[12:58] <zequence> Jeez. None of the Cof's seem to be perfect. And, the one I claimed to be standard is not. It has a defect.
[12:58] <zequence> Seems like cfhowletts uploads are the correct ones
[14:46] <sakrecoer_> zequence: gah :(
[14:47] <sakrecoer_> cfhowlett had the wrong brandmark if i recall correctly...
[14:48] <sakrecoer_> i wish i could help you identify the correct one... but i have no idea what the nunaces are in the one in current-standard
[14:56] <zequence> The text he uploaded was wrong, but the CoF's seem ok
[14:56] <zequence> Or, they seem to be the correct ones. Not perfect, though
[15:18] <sakrecoer_> what are the defect?
[15:21] <sakrecoer_> i guess the nature of the defect doesnt matter, but it would be nice if we could agree on which files to use soon :)
[15:35] <zequence> sakrecoer_: If you look really close on the CoFs, you will see it
[15:36] <zequence> sakrecoer_: The one in the current-standard branch has a visible defect in the top end of the outer ring
[15:36] <zequence> Zak fixed it. And, I believe the CoF's that cfhowlett published are the fixed ones
[16:02] <sakrecoer_> ok :)
[16:02] <sakrecoer_> feeling sorry for the HD render i put at home for the video-branding intro sequence :D
[16:10] <sakrecoer_> my own bad for not double checking :)
[16:14] <zequence> The difference is not big, but once you know it, at least it bothers me
[19:00] <sakrecoer_> zequence: of course, it would bother me too, if i knew...
[22:07] <sakrecoer_> now i see:( haha
[22:08] <sakrecoer_> like a lil dillydoing
[22:09] <sakrecoer_> the hd renders look great tho! easyfix+ motiondynamic lift up and then pifpafrender
[22:10] <sakrecoer_> but witch one to take? :/
[22:10] <sakrecoer_> which one=which logo?


[10:11] <schopin> tsimonq2: that would have worked but ravikant_ added me as a separate reviewer so I can't claim. And in any case, that's a stopgap since semantically the ubuntu-sponsors wasn't necessarily needed in the first place (added automatically by git-ubuntu)
[10:12] <schopin> cjwatson: obscure knowledge is better than shining ignorance, I guess :). I won't bother actually doing it this time, but I'll try to carve out some time to write a script for this in the future, thanks!
[14:55] <rbasak> schopin: FWIW, I wrote the bot to try and not step on others' workflows. If you add a different team as a reviewer to the MP, then ~ubuntu-sponsors shouldn't automatically get added. Suggestions to change the criteria appreciated.
[15:08] <rbasak> schopin: here's the bot: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+git/ubuntu-helpers/tree/rbasak/lp_auto_sponsor.py
[15:08] <schopin> rbasak: would that work if it's not a team but a person?


[00:47] <krytarik> knome: Do you insist on using the larger mouse logo in the header of the scrolled view on smaller screens, or can we just use the usual one with the name included, too?
[00:51] <krytarik> (In case of the latter, I have a solution worked out already.)
[01:12] <krytarik> (→ http://paste.openstack.org/show/fwuL02wo8nQ3d7VPsCSA/ )
[03:00] <bluesabre> late late evening all
[14:00] <flocculant> bluesabre: I did 3 tasks thunar/menulibre and parole - just to confirm new bugs and upstream where it's possible
[14:38] <flocculant> afternoon all
[14:39] <bluesabre> hey flocculant
[14:40] <flocculant> hi bluesabre :)
[14:42] <bluesabre> flocculant: anything I need to do with that? I'm at home today, so can help take care of tasks
[14:45] <flocculant> bluesabre: nope - all I did was add them - then wait for people to take it up and possibly some might contact me
[14:46] <flocculant> https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5713974762930176/
[14:46] <flocculant> for instance is the thunar one
[14:49] <bluesabre> seems to be private to you
[14:49] <bluesabre> 403 here
[14:49] <flocculant> mmm
[14:49] <Akxwi-dave> hi guys sorry, was away with the fairies there....
[14:50] <flocculant> bluesabre: perhaps because it's not live yet
[14:50] <bluesabre> probably
[14:50] <flocculant> hi Akxwi-dave :)
[14:51] <flocculant> bluesabre: http://i.imgur.com/aDiCHJ4.png
[14:51] <bluesabre> flocculant: cool, seems reasonable
[14:52] <flocculant> yea - the first link is a newest first listing of thunar new bugs in LP, second is what bugzilla shows for thunar
[14:53] <flocculant> not going to do anything else unless someone in 'team' thinks of something
[14:53] <flocculant> current thinking is if the few tasks I did for us get finished I'll add similar again :)
[14:54] <bluesabre> cool cool
[14:55] <bluesabre> what sort of tasks do ubuntu proper and kubuntu have listed?
[14:55] <flocculant> not sure about kubuntu
[14:55] <flocculant> ubuntu has a bunch of phone stuff, seen some mir tasks
[14:55] <flocculant> there's 97 listed :D
[14:56] <bluesabre> nice
[14:56] <flocculant> updating doc(s)
[15:04] <flocculant> Akxwi-dave: I've had people asking how to package testing, I think that a session in the new year for that will be useful
[15:07] <Akxwi-dave> Deffo...  I've got 2 weeks off at xmas so will get something better worked out for New Year just for PAckage Testing
[15:08] <flocculant> Akxwi-dave: feb looks best - pointless straight after xmas - feb has 3 package calls in wk 1-3 and then beta 1 in week 4
[15:09] <Akxwi-dave> what time in feb is the 1st package call?
[15:09] <flocculant> Akxwi-dave: http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-calendar
[15:10] <flocculant> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubpktesting  - we can use that to work things out
[15:11] <flocculant> we could run it 30/31 Jan just after alpha 1 perhaps
[15:12] <Akxwi-dave> thats what i was thinking doing it a week before ist call
[15:13] <flocculant> we can always move things about - 1 of the 3 pkg test calls is the run-once/optional stuff - we could bring that back then move the 4th priority call forward a week
[15:18] <Akxwi-dave> leave it with me I'll see what I can come with..   oh and if i try to acess the xubpktesting it says I dont have permission.. :-)
[15:19] <flocculant> oh meh you need adding to the group https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad join that team
[15:19] <flocculant> eventually someone will add you then you can use the pad(s)
[15:19] <flocculant> we use them a lot here
[15:20] <flocculant> pleia2: can add you probably - don't know where to go ask anymore tbh
[15:20] <Akxwi-dave> :-)
[16:08] <Akxwi-dave> flocculant, bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1515184  doesn't seem to affect the MenuLibre on 15.10 with latest packages installed
[16:09] <Akxwi-dave> Just ran the testcases on both 16.04 and 15.10.. only getting the crash on 16.04
[16:09] <flocculant> that's useful for bluesabre
[16:09] <Akxwi-dave> both have the ppa's installed and uptodate
[16:09] <flocculant> yep
[16:09] <flocculant> add it to the bug for him :)
[16:09] <Akxwi-dave> will do
[16:12] <Akxwi-dave> bug report on Launchpad updated
[17:03] <knome> krytarik, silly one
[17:04] <knome> krytarik, i would probably keep the icon and the regular text as we have now
[17:04] <knome> krytarik, the logo becomes unreadable after a while
[17:04] <knome> krytarik, in the latest updates, when resolution is <600, we're now *always* showing the compact format
[17:13] <flocculant> bluesabre: <balloons> flocculant, the first task taken was to run the manual tests for xubuntu :p
[17:13] <flocculant> back to fighting grub
[17:30] <pleia2> flocculant: I only could while on the CC, can ask in #ubuntu-community-team now for folks who can approve re: etherpad
[17:32] <pleia2> but someone should approve pretty quickly either way
[17:33] <flocculant> pleia2: okey doke - I did think that ^^
[17:33] <flocculant> and I forget things asap nowadays :)
[17:33] <pleia2> hehe
[17:33] <flocculant> he needs to sort it anyway - we all use pads often :)
[17:34] <bluesabre> flocculant: awesome
[17:35] <flocculant> bluesabre: I thought so too :)
[17:43] <knome> hello pleia2 :P
[17:44] <pleia2> o/ knome
[17:44] <knome> pleia2, maybe you saw - or maybe not - some updates for website pushed into branch, also visible on the staging site
[17:45] <knome> pleia2, http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/text=(r+spec=xubuntu-x-web+sort=assignee+sortdir=asc
[17:47] <pleia2> ok
[17:48] <slickymasterWork> bluesabre, I confirmed bug 1511053
[17:49] <knome> wondering if there is something else we want fixed with this batch of updates
[17:51] <slickymasterWork> knome I was thinking that we could start to address the move of the translations of the ubiquity slideshow right after new year
[17:51] <slickymasterWork> is it ok with you
[17:51] <slickymasterWork> ?
[17:51] <knome> slickymasterWork, yes, that works for me, or you can start working on it now as well
[17:52] <slickymasterWork> I won't have much time availabke until then, but if I manage to, I will
[17:52] <slickymasterWork> * available
[18:05] <bluesabre> slickymasterWork: great, thanks.  I'll tackle that today
[18:05] <slickymasterWork> you're welcome bluesabre :)
[21:43] <pjotter> I was having a little chat with knome on #xbuntu just a while ago about light-locker
[21:43] <pjotter> Light-locker is giving me so many problems with my hardware, that I have given up trying to fix it and just deinstall it.
[21:44] <pjotter> For a casual user like myself, it seems that light-locker doesn't actually add much to the system. Much of the things you can do with light-locker, you can also do in power-manager.
[21:45] <pjotter> Is this true? And can I safely remove light-locker?
[21:45] <pjotter> I have been running Xubuntu for quite some time without light-locker and it seems to work fine now.
[21:46] <Unit193> Lock your computer → Ctrl+Alt+F7
[21:46] <pjotter> I quess my question is: Why is light-locker in the distro?
[21:46] <pjotter> Especially as it causes a lot of problems with many computers (I have seen).
[21:48] <pjotter> Also, why add an application to the system that (in large) overlaps functionality with another application?
[21:49] <pjotter> maybe I'm missing something here?
[21:49] <Unit193> As I said, try locking your computer then hitting Ctrl+Alt+F7.
[21:50] <pjotter> Unit193: That didn;t do much I'm afraid. What is it supposed to do?
[21:51] <Unit193> Seems you logged out?  Anywho, when you use  dm-tool switch-to-greeter, as locking should do now, you can easily get back into your session without entering the password.  That's because lightdm isn't a lock screen, light-locker is.
[21:57] <pjotter> My problems with lightlocker are not so much with how it functions. But when lightlocker is installed, after 10 minutes the screen goes blank. No matter what I set in light-locker. It seems light-locker settings are completely ignored on my system.
[21:58] <pjotter> So what I do: I deinstall light-locker and set the appropriate settings (screen blanking etc) in power-manager.
[21:59] <genii> Sounds like lightlocker might not actually be working at all and then dpms kicks in on the monitor
[22:00] <pjotter> All I know is that everything works as expected when light-locker is removed
[22:01] <pjotter> I don't really have a need for locking the screen so I figured I don;t loose much with light-locker gone.
[22:05] <pjotter> From what I understand from knome, not many users experience these problems with light-locker. Maybe it's just my bad luck. I have installed Xubuntu on many different systems and on nearly all of them I had to disable light-locker to get the screenblanking to work. Could this be an issue that only effects amd64?
[22:12] <pjotter> knome, can I pm you for just a sec?
[22:19] <ochosi> late evening everyone
[22:19] <pjotter> hi ochosi
[22:20] <ochosi> hi


[18:47] <Vlado2> hi all, i'm trying lubuntu xenial daily build and i found a bug, ubiquity is broken when trying to create encrypted partitions
[18:48] <Vlado2> Bug #1490824
[18:49] <teward> Vlado2: report it on the ISO tracker as well
[18:50] <Vlado2> where is that?
[18:50] <teward> Vlado2: and also note #lubuntu-devel would probably be a better reporting place, potentially
[18:50] <Vlado2> this bug affect all flavours
[18:50] <Vlado2> i already tried standard ubuntu
[18:50] <Vlado2> affects*
[18:51] <Vlado2> this bug is present probably for years
[18:54] <teward> clearly based on the information provided there in the comments about this being broken since 14.04
[18:54] <teward> you've marked the bug as confirmed, I suggest you subscribe to it
[18:55] <Vlado2> i'm not developer
[18:55] <teward> i didn't say you were
[18:55] <teward> i suggested you subscribe so you know the status of it as time goes on
[18:55] <Vlado2> ok, i can subscribe
[18:56] <Vlado2> i'm struggling with reporting the bug on the iso tracker
[18:57] <Vlado2> help is greatly appreciated
[18:57] <teward> would if i could - i'm currently grappling with some other tasks at the moment
[19:00] <Vlado2> ok, i managed to submit the bug into the iso tracker
[19:03] <teward> Vlado2: others are saying they can't replicate, so i'm not sure what the state is
[19:03] <Vlado2> can i talk to them?
[19:04] <Vlado2> to the "others"
[19:04] <teward> well, the one i reached was an Xubuntu tester
[19:04] <teward> they don't 'test' for it, but meh
[19:04] <teward> note also that this close to final freeze i doubt there'll be time to fix
[19:04] <teward> if it is indeed an issue
[19:05] <Vlado2> it is indeed an issue, i had the same problem with ubuntu 15.10, lubuntu 15.10 and linux mint 17.3
[19:05] <teward> we can't use Mint as a basis
[19:05] <teward> !mint
[19:05] <teward> ^ that
[19:05] <teward> Vlado2: #ubuntu-quality for testing/reporting/discussing when you're working on the Xenial ISOs
[19:06] <Vlado2> yes i know, i was just trying to say that i have no problems to replicate this problem even on different flavours
[19:06] <teward> i read that
[19:06] <teward> i also skipped that and provided you the channel to go to in the future with these
[19:06] <teward> but note we're near Final Beta
[19:06] <teward> so...
[19:06] <teward> people're busy :)
[19:25] <Vlado2> yes, i can see how busy they are since nobody did fix this problem since 2014


[00:02] <doko> slangasek: it's failing the same way as in<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:02] <doko> for the version that you added the hint. so apparently your comment is not complete
[00:03] <slangasek> doko: the hint I added was for all architectures because I knew it would be broken in a cross-architecture way.  the above confirmation is sufficient for me, I'll update the hint
[00:17] <nacc> slangasek: when you get a moment, i believe i've got everything but monolog explained in LP: #1749001 (to unblock phpunit)
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: davical [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.1.7-1] (no packageset)
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[00:48] <slangasek> why does zorp's autopkgtest have stderr only on s390x? :P
[01:25] <slangasek> doko: refreshed a stack of hints, a few more stuck packages should be happy to migrate now
[01:26] <slangasek> xnox: what's the net on systemd/237-1ubuntu3?  seems to have regressed all the best autopkgtests
[01:44] <nacc> xnox: i think i can get monolog's tests to pass, just need to find one more upstream patch to backport
[01:57] <slangasek> nacc: what's the purpose of the phpunit task on that bug?
[02:03] <slangasek> acheronuk: I see there are some manually triggered kde test runs with --all-proposed; are there any non-all-proposed tests we should kill in favor, to save the armhf queue?
[04:09] <nacc> slangasek: my own bookkeeping
[04:18] <tsimonq2> infinity: Mind taking another look at bug 1746807 when you have a chance?
[08:43] <juliank> I have a few badtests for artful: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWHsD6BfsT/ - this does not fully unblock the util-linux transitions, but the remaining failures (nm on arm64 and ppc64el) sound temporary.
[08:45] <juliank> I'm rerunning those
[08:49] <acheronuk> slangasek: all of them? for frameworks it would actually make sense for tests against to be delayed, then run against multiple triggers in the first instance. rather than have them queue up as individual ones
[08:50] <rbasak> slangasek: no, but it looks like you've had them fix it?
[08:52] <slangasek> acheronuk: well, I can't make britney automatically calculate the right trigger line; but given a list of package names, I can remove the currently-scheduled tests from the queue and let you add your own triggers manually
[08:52] <slangasek> rbasak: yeah, it built fine here w/ changed build deps so I went ahead and uploaded
[09:03] <acheronuk> slangasek: ./retry-autopkgtest-regressions --state RUNNING | grep 5.43.0 | grep armhf | awk -F"[=,&]" '{print $6}' | sort | uniq
[09:03] <acheronuk> would that make sense?
[09:03] <acheronuk> not up to full caffeine quota yet
[09:38] <doko> slangasek: hmm, c-t-b demoted?
[09:50] <doko> a little bit surprised
[09:53] <doko> or I don't understand the email to bionic-changes
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: iscsitarget (trusty-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+svn499-0ubuntu2.4 => <IP_ADDRESS>+svn499-0ubuntu2.5] (no packageset)
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[11:04] <doko> slangasek, infinity: why is glibc removed from -proposed?
[11:18] <juliank> hints for artful, now complete for all wrong util-linux rdep regressions: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2VmbsNTBRF/
[11:18] <juliank> I'd do a merge proposal, but since the files are named per member, that's kind of hard :)
[11:20] <juliank> if somebody could apply them, util-linux artful SRU would be ready for release as well
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[12:35] <doko> $ sudo apt install lib32gcc1 libc6-i386
[12:35] <doko> Reading package lists... Done
[12:35] <doko> Building dependency tree
[12:35] <doko> Reading state information... Done
[12:35] <doko> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[12:35] <doko> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[12:35] <doko> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[12:35] <doko> or been moved out of Incoming.
[12:35] <doko> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[12:35] <doko> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:35] <doko>  libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.26-0ubuntu2) but 2.26-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[12:35] <doko> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:37] <doko> nice
[12:37] <acheronuk> doko: is util-linux 2.32 likely to get into 18.04?
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[12:38] <doko> acheronuk: you should ask the one who did the last merge
[12:39] <stikonas> doko: hi, I wanted to ask if util-linux-2.32 might be available on 18.04?
[12:39] <doko> I don't know
[12:39] <stikonas> now they have tagged rc1, so it should be released in about 4 weeks
[12:39] <stikonas> oh ok
[12:40] <acheronuk> doko: ok. was suggested to ask you. I will poke at the changelog
[12:40] <stikonas> well, I only need one patch from 2.32... And 2.31.1 will probably be synced from Debian anyway
[12:42] <acheronuk> xnox: are you able to comment on that? likelihood of  util-linux 2.32?
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[12:50] <DalekSec> acheronuk: What's so interesting about it?
[12:50] <acheronuk> stikonas: ^^^ ? can you explain?
[12:51] <stikonas> DalekSec: DalekSec: well, for me it is this commit https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/commit/8175ed3d74adacc895657ded7546cb3c5deeabad
[12:52] <stikonas> all other pathes that I need are in 2.31.1
[12:53] <acheronuk> for kpimcore?
[12:53] <acheronuk> *kpmcore
[12:54] <stikonas> acheronuk: yeah, for kpmcore sfdisk backend
[12:54] <stikonas> which will be necessary for KAuth support
[12:54] <stikonas> acheronuk: libparted backend is just too hard to get working with kauth due to all library calls
[12:55] <rbalint> could someone please force-badtest unattended-upgrades/all/arm64 ? the testbed seems to have issues with the systemd restart test but everything else is green
[12:56] <acheronuk> stikonas: and this is so you can continue development of kpmcore using the LTS base?
[12:56] <acheronuk> just asking for the logs if/when xnox can have a look
[12:58] <stikonas> acheronuk: well, I don't develop on LTS base myself. But maybe some other people will
[12:59] <acheronuk> right
[12:59] <stikonas> or if somebody wants to have LTS base and newer kpmcore
[13:00] <stikonas> so without that patch https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/commit/8175ed3d74adacc895657ded7546cb3c5deeabad I can't deactivate boot flag on MBR partitions with sfdisk
[13:34] <LocutusOfBorg> mapreri, ginggs tsimonq2 what is the status for libunistring? I'm preparing some no change rebuilds in my ppa in some minutes, and added a tracker
[13:34] <LocutusOfBorg> anybody on release team can confirm please the transition?
[13:37] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: No clue, sorry. But I'm willing to help if needed.
[14:04] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: Are they planning a transition?
[14:05] <juliank> I already prepared a merge of libunistring 4 weeks ago for gnutls28, but ended up going with the internal one first.
[14:35] <LocutusOfBorg> juliank, we are really using an old version, I think we should update
[14:35] <juliank> I think so too
[14:35] <juliank> I already have a 0.98-1ubuntu1 sitting around
[14:36] <juliank> 0.9.8
[14:36] <juliank> but if someone else wants too, I don't mind either. Just notify me so I can turn it on in gnutls28 too, or do it yourself.
[14:37] <juliank> here, BTW: https://launchpad.net/~juliank/+archive/ubuntu/unistring2/+packages
[14:37] <juliank> I delayed uploading it because the backlog was huge
[14:39] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: did you do your own merge?
[14:40]  * juliank is just confused because he left a link on MoM for the unistring merge
[14:43] <juliank> Oh, I see there is a bug I probably should have assigned to me :)
[14:50] <tjaalton> can a package depend on a foreign package?
[14:50] <juliank> from apt and dpkg's side, sure
[14:50] <juliank> britney might not like it, idk
[14:51] <tjaalton> ok
[14:51] <tjaalton> well not depend, but recommend so that if multiarch isn't set up it would still install
[14:51] <tjaalton> so an amd64 pkg could recommend: libfoo:i386
[14:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I tried a sync, I honestly don't understand why a merge is needed... what about opening a silo and doing the transition there?
[14:52] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: The only remaining change I had was "Link test-lock with -Wl,--no-as-needed.", I honestly did not test whether it worked without the change.
[14:53] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: But yes, a silo would be nice.
[14:55] <juliank> And if a sync works, that's better than a merge, obviously :D
[14:58] <juliank> tjaalton: that should work
[15:00] <tjaalton> ok good
[15:01] <LocutusOfBorg> juliank, https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa it builds fine
[15:02] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: OK. Should use copy-package to sync it to a silo PPA, though, I guess
[15:03] <juliank> (rather than having a pointless build1 in it)
[15:03] <juliank> The no-change rebuilds can be triggered semi-automatically
[15:03] <LocutusOfBorg> I can also manually edit changes file :p
[15:04] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: That's silly
[15:04] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[15:04] <juliank> copy-package is much nicer
[15:07] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: So should I help? I can create all the rebuilds in less than two minutes I guess, I'm heavily scripted :)
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> ./copy-package --from=debian --from-suite=sid libunistring --to=ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/3141 --to-suite=bionic
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> I did this
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> I prefer sometimes to learn some new bits
[15:07] <juliank> xnox gave me a secret weapon to do the no-change rebuilds automatically :D
[15:08] <LocutusOfBorg> e.g. from-suite=unstable is wrong, from-suite=sid works
[15:08] <LocutusOfBorg> juliank, I have one from Colin
[15:08] <LocutusOfBorg> anyhow, now we should wait for it to build, and then I'll upload the no change rebuilds
[15:08] <LocutusOfBorg> BTW; feel free to upload your gnutls28 pet package
[15:08] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: Well then knock yourself out with the no-change rebuilds, and I prepare a gnutls28
[15:09] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[15:10] <LocutusOfBorg> btw my script is: copy-paste from there the packages
[15:10] <LocutusOfBorg> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/auto-libunistring
[15:11] <juliank> well, what I do is run rebuild-for libunistring <package name> for each package
[15:11] <LocutusOfBorg> do some cat foo |grep build |cut -d " " -f 1 |cut -f 1 -d "[" > list
[15:11] <juliank> possibly parallel
[15:11] <juliank> :D
[15:11] <LocutusOfBorg> and then pass the output to my rebuild or rebuild-ppa script
[15:11] <LocutusOfBorg> for i in `cat list`; do rebuild-ppa $i "reason"; done
[15:12] <LocutusOfBorg> we should really get such scripts in ubuntu-archive-tools :p
[15:12] <juliank> I think the rebuild script should be in ubuntu-dev-tools
[15:12] <LocutusOfBorg> or ubuntu-release-tools
[15:12] <LocutusOfBorg> yes sure ubuntu-dev-tools I meant
[15:13] <LocutusOfBorg> (or the bzr repo from release team)
[15:13] <LocutusOfBorg> since they issue a lot of rebuilds
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[15:16] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: I'm ready, I could even upload now - it goes into depwait due to b-d on >= 0.9.7
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[15:17] <juliank> LocutusOfBorg: Or ping me once you upload :)
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[15:26] <LocutusOfBorg> juliank, safe to go :)
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[16:11] <juliank> ~ubuntu-sru: Just a reminder that I have some force-badtests for getting util-linux unstuck in artful: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWHsD6BfsT/
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[16:30] <rbasak> slangasek: could you look at mysql-5.7 in proposed for me please? It's been hung up on the PHP transition for weeks. I think it's pretty clear that it's not a regression in MySQL (which isn't a transition, just a microrelease bump). nacc says untangling horde is at least a week away, and I'd really like to get some wider testing on unrelated mysql-5.7 packaging changes we made a month ago. Could
[16:31] <rbasak> you consider bumping it through please?
[16:31] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, util-linux merge please?
[16:33] <blackboxsw> RAOF: if you are point on SRUs today, do you think there is time for a cloud-init proposed merge for xenial & artful. We need to reject 17.2.30 and propose 17.2.35 which has SRU-fixes.
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[16:52] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Steve is out today and tomorrow, FYI.
[16:53] <rbasak> Thanks
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[17:54] <tsimonq2> Can someone please RM
[17:54] <tsimonq2> ...indi-sbig from bionic?
[17:55] <tsimonq2> (yay for \n in clipboard with the name of the pkg -_-)
[17:55] <tsimonq2> See the discussion I had with slangasek last night for ref
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libreoffice [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:6.0.1-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[18:54] <jbicha> please move gnome-tweak-tool and gnome-orca to oldlibs, see LP: #1747033
[20:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libreoffice [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:6.0.1-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[20:49] <slangasek> juliank: the hint filenames being per-team member is a historical wart; feel free to raise an MP against mine, and members of the SRU team should feel free to accept your MP ;)
[20:50] <slangasek> tsimonq2: bug report against indi-sbig as well, please
[20:52] <tsimonq2> slangasek: per-team files> Is that a bug that can be fixed, or will it Just Stay Like That? Maybe like a "misc" file if not complete rework?
[20:52] <tsimonq2> slangasek: indi-sbig> ack
[20:53] <slangasek> tsimonq2: new filenames have to be added to the britney source tree first; we have broad agreement to fix this by moving hints to a single file named for the team, but no one has prioritized this
[20:54] <tsimonq2> slangasek: And y'all accept MPs to Ubuntu's britney2 and the hints repo? :P
[20:54] <slangasek> yes
[20:55] <tsimonq2> I'll keep that in mind ;)
[21:00] <juliank> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/britney/hints-ubuntu-artful/+merge/337667
[21:06] <juliank> Could create a file "contrib" and it to to britney :D
[21:09] <slangasek> acheronuk: seems to me we don't want to filter only armhf out of that list; aren't there some of these in the backlog still on other archs?
[21:12] <slangasek> acheronuk: I'm leaning towards this: retry-autopkgtest-regressions --state RUNNING | sed -n -e'/all-proposed/d; /5.43.0/s/.*package=\([^&]\+\).*/\1/p' | sort | uniq
[21:16] <acheronuk> if that catches extra that would be better together, then I guess good. what state would cancelling test runs put them into on the excuses page?
[21:16] <slangasek> acheronuk: they'll still be listed in state 'Test in progress', and you'll be able to reschedule the missing tests manually
[21:17] <slangasek> acheronuk: let me pastebin the list of packages for you, so you have the full list of what I'm cancelling
[21:17] <slangasek> acheronuk: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zNXrmFt86/
[21:18] <slangasek> I am being somewhat cautious and reviewing the matches for each package before cancelling, so it'll take me a little while
[21:18] <acheronuk> ok, so I could still use --state=running to re-queue
[21:18] <slangasek> but considering some of these have 5+ tests scheduled for the same package and all will fail (AIUI), this should help
[21:19] <slangasek> acheronuk: yes
[21:19] <acheronuk> slangasek: yeah, especially as I have new Plasma release nearly ready to upload
[21:20] <acheronuk> this will be the last frameworks before feature freeze, and release cadence of plasma will slow down as well, so not as nasty as it sounds
[21:21] <slangasek> juliank: ah, and the crash autopkgtest still failed, again w/ ddebs.u.c issues: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/c/crash/bionic/s390x
[21:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jsonrpc-glib [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.27.90-1] (no packageset)
[21:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jsonrpc-glib [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.27.90-1] (no packageset)
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jsonrpc-glib [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.27.90-1] (no packageset)
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jsonrpc-glib [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.27.90-1] (no packageset)
[21:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jsonrpc-glib [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.27.90-1] (no packageset)
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jsonrpc-glib [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.27.90-1] (no packageset)
[21:33] <juliank> slangasek: bad timing
[21:34] <juliank> slangasek: I just verified the file and it matches what the Release file says
[21:36] <juliank> the ddeb retriever unfortunately is not very atomic at all
[21:36] <slangasek> acheronuk: amd64, arm64, i386 queues down by ~160; armhf queue down by ~620. and plenty of room for you to manually schedule anything you need to
[21:36] <juliank> I guess we should make it more atomic
[21:37] <juliank> basically just do all writes into .new files, and then rename them all at the end
[21:37] <juliank> or since we're rebuilding the indices for a changed pocket completely anyway
[21:37] <slangasek> juliank: would be best practice, but not necessarily the highest priority :)
[21:37] <acheronuk> slangasek: thanks. looks a scary list when I did a dry run, but must be better this way
[21:37] <juliank> we can just replace the pocket almost atomically
[21:38] <slangasek> acheronuk: I'm assuming that you're only batching one test for each package+arch to be tested, using multiple triggers / or all-proposed?
[21:38] <juliank> by writing to bionic.new/, mv bionic bionic.old, and then mv bionic.new bionic
[21:38] <juliank> also has the side effect of making it less possible to mess up stuff :D
[21:38] <slangasek> juliank: why, I believe you've just described how the launchpad publisher works
[21:38] <slangasek> anyway, afk now
[21:39] <acheronuk> slangasek: both, which retry-autopkgtest-regressions essential does
[21:40] <acheronuk> *essentially
[21:40] <slangasek> hmm, ttbomk retry-autopkgtest-regressions won't auto-batch for you?
[21:41] <acheronuk> slangasek: what do you mean by auto-batch?
[21:42] <acheronuk> it's giving output such as: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=bionic&arch=armhf&package=libkf5sane&trigger=ktextwidgets%2F5.43.0-0ubuntu1&trigger=qtbase-opensource-src%2F5.9.3%2Bdfsg-0ubuntu4&all-proposed=1
[21:42] <slangasek> acheronuk: if update_excuses shows multiple pending tests for the same package triggered by different uploads, it won't automatically translate that into a single test request with multiple triggers
[21:42] <acheronuk> the test urls I'm getting beg to differ
[21:43] <slangasek> that is interesting
[21:43] <slangasek> possibly that behavior is only when you specify --all-proposed
[21:43] <acheronuk> I'm only getting a sngle test request per package, per arch, with multiple triggers
[21:43] <slangasek> (/hopefully/ it is)
[21:44] <acheronuk> trying it to see
[21:45] <acheronuk> slangasek: nope. without all-proposed gives me urls with multiple triggers as well
[21:46] <acheronuk> it is how it has seemed to work for me since I started using that
[23:01] <nacc> xnox: finally got php-monolog working!
[23:02] <nacc> xnox: sending the massive patches to debian (there's already a bug filed ther
[23:25] <RAOF> blackboxsw: if you're here, could you please re-upload cloud-init with *all* the changes since the last version in -updates in the _source.changes file?
[23:26] <blackboxsw> bah I don't have upload perms for that yet .... Though I've started my https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChadSmith/DeveloperPerPackageUploadApplication
[23:27] <blackboxsw> I'll ping smoser my sponsor, but it's EOD for him. so probably tomorrow
[23:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libreoffice [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:6.0.1-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[23:41] <nacc> blackboxsw: if you just need a sponsor, i can help
[23:49] <blackboxsw> nacc: that'd be excellent thank you sir.
[23:50] <nacc> blackboxsw: sure, bug # and debdiff available?
[23:52] <blackboxsw> nacc: family is calling for dinner help so I think I'll have to bail on this for today. I'd been working with MPs against cloud-init's upstream git branches  https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/337516  to try to service our SRU bug: #1747059
[23:54] <blackboxsw> I can go through the motions of creating the debdiff for review sponsorship at that point.
[23:55] <nacc> blackboxsw: RAOF: if it's just the same version with right -v, i can do it
[23:55] <nacc> RAOF: did you already reject the upload that was done?
[23:56] <RAOF> nacc: I haven't rejected it yet; I'm just reviewing the rest of it so that we don't have to bounce through multiple reviews.
[23:56] <nacc> RAOF: ack, since i'd be reusing the same version, I assume I need to wait on your reject (it can be post-review)
[23:57] <nacc> blackboxsw: i think i just need the orig tarball
[23:57] <RAOF> nacc: Yeah, that's right. I shouldn't be too much longer.
[23:57] <RAOF> nacc: You should be able to get the orig tarball from LP?
[23:57] <nacc> yep, doing that now, i realize, RAOF :)
[23:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tor (xenial-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1~16.04.1 => <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (artful-proposed) [17.2-35-gf576b2a2-0ubuntu1~17.10.1]


[00:28] <Azelphur> soreau: do you happen to know where the nautilus show desktop option is in 12.04? been searching for it for ages D:
[00:32] <Azelphur> found it, yay
[06:00] <soreau> Azelphur: where was it?
[08:07] <christel> morning pretty little things
[08:10] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:11] <AlanBell> I can see the sea
[08:11] <christel> i can see snow!
[08:11] <christel> (at the top of the mountains)
[08:13] <christel> is ireland wonderful and full of irish people? :)
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> Land of Ire?
[08:14] <christel> MartijnVdS \o/
[08:14]  * christel hugs the dutch
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[08:15] <AlanBell> it is
[08:16] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS is from the nether regions
[08:17] <jacobw> morning
[08:17]  * AlanBell wonders if there are new spice racks to look at
[08:19] <christel> nothing like a hot, spicy rack in the morning
[08:19] <jacobw> :)
[08:19] <christel> morning jacobw :)
[08:25]  * jacobw is watching IND vs RSA hockey
[08:27] <MartijnVdS> for 11th/12th place..
[08:54]  * AlanBell squeezes into a wetsuit and heads for the beach
[09:10] <MartijnVdS> Debian Squeeze 8-)
[09:25] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:32] <brobostigon> new series who do you think you are, patrick stwert mentioned, :)
[09:32] <brobostigon> patrick stewert*
[09:38] <jacobw> the olympic music is bad :p
[09:43] <MartijnVdS> how unexpected :P
[09:45] <jacobw> i like the tawkwondo
[09:45] <jacobw> greece vs turkey was intense
[11:39] <Pendulum> hiya
[11:41] <brobostigon> afternoonings Pendulum
[11:43] <DJones> brobostigon: Was it you asking about android games the other day?
[11:43] <brobostigon> DJones: yep.
[11:43] <DJones> Thought so, wondered if you'd seen this http://www.reghardware.com/2012/08/11/ten_android_games_for_armchair_olympians/
[11:44] <brobostigon> DJones: let me look, thank you.
[11:44] <DJones> New article this morning & remembered somebody had been asking
[11:45] <brobostigon> :)
[11:45] <DJones> Timing is everything :)
[11:45] <DJones> Maybe ElReg is answering IRC questions
[12:55] <Liboan> ~
[13:10] <popey> afternoon all
[13:17] <jacobw> hey popey
[13:26] <Pendulum> hiya popey
[13:42] <sebsebseb> hi popey
[13:56] <extrasolar> I have an interview tomorrow for a jr support analyst but no where onthe job description is there any technologies listed......
[13:56] <extrasolar> I have no idea what they us
[13:56] <extrasolar> e
[13:56] <extrasolar> and I have a feeling I am going to get tested on something I know nothing about.......
[14:02] <AlanBell> good interview for that job really
[14:02] <AlanBell> every day is being tested on stuff you know nothing about ;)
[14:04] <dogmatic69> is there something like pastebinit for images?
[14:04] <extrasolar> I guess so
[14:04] <extrasolar> I hope there's linux.........
[14:05] <AlanBell> !imagebin
[14:05] <dogmatic69> AlanBell: I want a command line "imagebinit somefile.png"
[14:05] <extrasolar> my CV and cover letter were 'linux based'
[14:06] <AlanBell> dogmatic69: ah, right, probably curl with something or other
[14:07] <dogmatic69> Might just make one then.
[14:07] <AlanBell> http://argandgahandapandpa.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/command-line-script-to-upload-images-to-imagebin/
[14:07] <dogmatic69> thanks
[14:08] <extrasolar> The support role seems to have a lot of references to the word networking
[14:08] <extrasolar> linux?
[14:08] <extrasolar> perhaps?
[14:08] <popey> a friend of mine asks... "if anyone has a rooted S3 and could send me the contents of /efs I'd really appreciate it"
[14:08] <popey> anyone?
[14:08] <extrasolar> I realse this is a guessing game
[14:09] <dogmatic69> popey: S3 as in amazon S3?
[14:09] <popey> no
[14:09] <popey> samsung galaxy s3
[14:45] <directhex> i can send them an update .cab file for a lumia 800. any good?
[14:48] <popey> :)
[14:49] <popey> i saw someone with a nokia device whilst on holiday, made me double take
[14:49] <popey> it was light blue so thought it might be an n9, is the lumia done in that colour too?
[14:50] <hamitron> yes
[14:51] <hamitron> my lumia 710 has black and light blue covers
[14:51] <popey> it looked like the shape of an n9
[14:51] <directhex> popey, the n9 and lumia 800 are both available in blue, black and pink
[14:51] <popey> ah ok
[14:52] <directhex> there's also a white for one of them. i forget which
[14:52] <popey> should have asked him what it was
[14:52] <directhex> oh, saw a pink n9 in CEX yesterday, if anyone's desperate for one
[14:52] <popey> how much?
[14:53] <directhex> £220
[14:53] <directhex> which is the going rate for a "poor condition" 16GB N9, as per http://uk.webuy.com/search/index.php?stext=nokia+n9&ispostback=1&mode=buy
[14:53] <hamitron> :/
[14:54] <directhex> meanwhile a new lumia 710 is a hundred quid
[14:54] <hamitron> yeh, why I got it ;)
[14:55] <directhex> thoughts?
[14:56] <hamitron> 710 seems solid enough
[15:00] <directhex> what did you replace?
[15:26] <hamitron> ngage
[15:26] <hamitron> ;D
[15:26] <hamitron> well, still actually using ngage, not transferred my number yet
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> ngage?
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> isn't that.. a decade old?
[16:23] <TheFred> hello
[16:36] <hamitron> MartijnVdS: *shrugs* maybe, symbian 60 v2
[16:36] <hamitron> hope my windows phone lasts as long ;)
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> Windows phone, haha :)
[16:41] <hamitron> I don't like apple, blackberry ones are not for me, and everyone goes android (and I like something different)
[16:41] <MartijnVdS> but android is cool!
[16:41] <hamitron> it is
[16:42] <popey> pfft
[16:42] <hamitron> I really wanted a galaxy nexus tbh
[16:42] <hamitron> but my cheapness overruled that idea
[16:42] <popey> given the first android phone was released at the end of 2008.. lasting 10 years.. hah
[16:43] <hamitron> popey: I agree
[16:43] <hamitron> :/
[16:43] <popey> although apparently you can crowbar android 4.1 onto it
[16:43] <AlanBell> bbc has an article about something called webinos
[16:44] <hamitron> I just wanted a semi-smart phone "that works"
[16:44] <hamitron> and cheap
[16:44] <hamitron> with a quality feel
[16:44] <hamitron> :)
[16:45] <jacobw> CM10 will be based on 4.1
[16:46] <hamitron> anyone got a nexus 7 yet?
[16:46] <popey> hamitron, me too
[16:46] <popey> hence why i got an iphone :)
[16:46] <hamitron> iphone is cheap? :|
[16:47] <popey> i overlooked that criteria :)
[16:47] <popey> because your definition of cheap and mine differ
[16:47] <hamitron> yeh
[16:47] <hamitron> mine is sub£100
[16:48] <hamitron> but it supports tethering, so can get a n android tablet if I feel the need
[16:51] <directhex> tethering update finally landed \o/
[17:38] <TheFred> samsung europa (payg) £45 and has teathering (Three network)
[17:38] <TheFred> *tethering
[17:49] <MartijnVdS> It's part of Android.. so any android phone would have it.. right?
[17:51] <penguin42> vendors/carriers can nobble it can't they?
[17:52] <MartijnVdS> Buy the phone separately :)
[17:55] <hamitron> oh blast
[17:55] <hamitron> forgot I need petrol, and station is closed now
[17:55] <hamitron> :/
[17:56] <MartijnVdS> stations close?!
[17:56] <hamitron> till Monday
[17:56] <hamitron> haha
[17:57] <hamitron> so extra 10 mile trip now
[17:57] <hamitron> :/
[18:08] <jacobw> stations close?!
[18:12] <Azelphur> ali1234: do you know if it's possible to identify what device(s?) are plugged into a specific USB port?
[18:15] <hamitron> doesn't each port have its own number?
[18:15] <Azelphur> dunno, lsusb doesn't seem to show anything specific
[18:16] <hamitron> just looking at dmesg
[18:16] <zleap> lshw
[18:17] <Azelphur> zleap: hmm, that seems to just print PCI (sysfs) and then hang, haha
[18:17] <Azelphur> oh no, there is goes
[18:18] <zleap> i am sure there is some way it must address each port
[18:18] <hamitron> I found a way
[18:19] <hamitron> look at what you've physically plugged in
[18:19] <hamitron> ;)
[18:22] <zleap> ok
[18:24] <Azelphur> hamitron: haha, I'm doing a funky conky layout
[18:26] <Azelphur> seems like lshw doesn't do that
[18:40] <jacobw> ls -Rl /sys/bus/usb/devices/
[18:41] <penguin42> the mapping to physical usb ports is a bit random; you may have multiple controllers and then internal hubs
[18:52] <Azelphur> indeed, confusing :P
[20:17] <brobostigon> DSOTM  :)
[20:20] <penguin42> ?
[20:20] <brobostigon> apink flloyd album. dark side of the moon.
[20:21] <penguin42> ah, I have heard of it
[20:22] <brobostigon> :)
[20:22]  * penguin42 doesn't have any PF in his colelction
[20:25] <brobostigon> :(
[20:25] <penguin42> the 'customer satisfaction' ratings on uswitch range from 58-64 - not much in it
[20:38] <penguin42> sigh, coming to end of fixed tarriff on elec/gas - need to look around
[20:52] <brobostigon> nick mason rocks.
[20:57] <penguin42> who?
[20:58] <brobostigon> the drummer for the floyd.
[21:00] <penguin42> ah
[21:05] <brobostigon> :)
[23:05] <bigcalm_laptop> Ello peeps :)
[23:23] <penguin42> hey
[23:54] <ScoFoWL> hello


[21:49] <qwebirc78911> Did anyone else get bit by the kernel update that killed HDMI audio? I had to reinstall video drivers.


[03:35] <vbgunz> ahoneybun: you here? how did the nvidia binary installation go? did it fix the screen crazies?
[03:35] <ahoneybun> vbgunz: terriable
[03:35] <ahoneybun> bad
[03:35] <vbgunz> :(
[03:35] <ahoneybun> then I found a PPA for it
[03:35] <vbgunz> what happened? did it just fail to install, fail to work?
[03:35] <vbgunz> did the ppa solve anything?
[03:35] <ahoneybun> a pre-install script did not work but I still went though it
[03:36] <ahoneybun> no
[03:36] <ahoneybun> I did not use it
[03:37] <vbgunz> damn, I swear when bugs so obvious like this are just blatant, it kills me knowing there won't be any official solution till the next release. unless we take it into our own hands
[03:37] <ahoneybun> vbgunz: http://gateway.boards.net/thread/18/easy-install-nvidia-driver-update
[03:43] <vbgunz> damn, remove and reinstall pulseaudio over a bug that may affect ya. damn. so, if this is what you're using now, how is it?
[03:43] <vbgunz> is it fixed?
[05:50] <vbgunz> ahoneybun: I followed that tutorial and upgraded to 352. none of the problems that exist with the current driver was solved with that, in fact, for me it was worse. I'm think it's probably a KDE issue :/
[05:50] <ahoneybun> vbgunz: thats very sad to hear
[05:51] <vbgunz> yeah, I thought I'd give ya a heads up, looks like we're still in the same boat
[05:52] <ahoneybun> I did not think you would try it
[05:52] <ahoneybun> thanks for the news either way
[05:52] <vbgunz> well I have a btrfs set up and created some snapshots. I just fully reverted. I just wanted to test, it was a fail for me :(
[05:52] <ahoneybun> snapshots?
[05:53] <vbgunz> yeah, with btrfs you can take a snapshot in seconds. then rollback to that snapshot if things go wild west
[05:54] <vbgunz> it's really simple too, I'm only experimenting but am pleased with it so far, especially with the snapshot feature, I was able to test something I probably wouldn't have done otherwise
[06:02] <ahoneybun> I could never get that to work
[06:02] <ahoneybun> have only seen it work with openSUSE
[06:02] <ahoneybun> vbgunz: what tools are there in Ubuntu to use it?
[06:31] <malinus> Hello. I've just installed kubuntu (15.04). When I boot the system, I get to the login screen. After typing the correct password (and enter), I see the kubuntu loading screen (bar inscreasing). When it finishes, the screen goes black, and I'm back at the login screen.
[08:33] <sacarde> hi
[08:34] <sacarde> in kubuntu 15.04 when start kmail I have this error:
[08:34] <sacarde> http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?587282
[09:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:24] <gier_do> sacarde: It's an akonadi problem.
[09:24] <gier_do> sacarde: try "akonadictl status"
[09:24] <sacarde> for now I solve remoing akonadi dir in user config
[09:25] <gier_do> sacarde: so the issue is resolved?
[09:26] <sacarde> now kmail starts OK
[09:26] <sacarde> I disable kwallet
[09:26] <sacarde> but to re-enable it ?
[09:48] <BluesKaj> 'Morning  all
[10:40] <murthy> Kubuntu 15.04 takes 2 to 3 minutes to shutdown for the past one week, before that it use to shutdown in 5 seconds or less
[10:41] <murthy> Backports ppa is enabled for my install
[10:43] <murthy> I cant see any error messages during the shutdown. I assumed that  it was of plymouth. But even after booting with the quite and splash options removed from grub, I can see messages only during boot and not during shutdown.
[10:44] <murthy> If I am looking for any error messages, which log should I be looking, the kernel or the xorg?
[10:45] <BluesKaj> murthy, do you have akonadi and baloo runnining
[10:45] <murthy> BluesKaj: checking
[10:46] <BluesKaj> err running
[10:46] <murthy> BluesKaj: there is a process called akonadi_baloo_indexer
[10:47] <BluesKaj> murthy, yes do you need akonadi for kmail etc and baloo for seraching for files?
[10:47] <murthy> omg there a lot of process name starting with akonadi
[10:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: no dont need
[10:48] <murthy> how to stop/remove it
[10:48] <BluesKaj> then type akonadi in the kmenu search and disable the server
[10:49] <BluesKaj> and in system settings>search disable the indexer
[10:50] <murthy> BluesKaj: When i type akonadi in the kmenu, nothing pops up. I have already disabled the file indexer
[10:51] <BluesKaj> try akonadi-server
[10:51] <murthy> ok
[10:53] <BluesKaj> murthy, then is system settings> startup&shutdown>sessiom management>applications to be excluded . type the app names there with commas and spaces between them
[10:53] <murthy> BluesKaj: there is nothing akonadi-server. Instead there was akonadiserver. I asked me to use akonadictl to stop or start akonadi server
[10:54] <BluesKaj> oh ok then do that, guess it's under systemd now
[10:56] <murthy> I ran akonadictl stop and all the akonadi processes stoped . ok what app names I have to add there?
[10:56] <murthy> BluesKaj: ^
[10:58] <BluesKaj> murthy, I would use akonadictl and baloo
[10:58] <murthy> ok
[10:59] <BluesKaj> I'm guessing those are the culprits slowing down your shutdown process, because I had the same symtoms which went away after I disabled them
[11:00] <murthy> Ok I will see if these changes works, going for a reboot. brb
[16:36] <ikonia> win 1
[16:45] <s230u> Hi, I installed Kubuntu 15.04 in French however many kde things like system settings and plasma have some labels in English and some in French.
[16:47] <s230u> This is what my system settings looks like
[16:47] <s230u> http://imgur.com/f32wdV3
[16:54] <Larsvb> Hallo
[16:54] <Larsvb> kann mir jemand Rat geben :D?
[16:55] <Larsvb> mein Kubuntu 15.04 friert häufig ein
[17:21] <daft> Hi,  since when does removing the .kde folder Not removing the kde user settings of that user...
[17:21] <daft> I got an kde desktop totally messed up...
[17:42] <est31> hi there, my plasma shell doing weird things
[17:42] <est31> crashed when I executed a special program from menu
[17:42] <est31> but only when I accessed it from the search
[17:43] <est31> when I access it from the normal tree based way, it works
[17:43] <est31> but crashed now afterwards, perhaps unrelated
[17:43] <est31> please note I use the kde backports ppa
[17:43] <est31> and the issue is since yesterday
[17:46] <est31> seems its because of an update of liboxideqtcore0 from 1.7.8 to 1.7.9
[17:46] <est31> but not sure
[17:46] <est31> havent reverted yet to test
[17:46] <est31> how can I do that?
[17:46] <est31> or not crashed, but not responding
[17:46] <est31> you know, clock not updating and so on
[17:46] <est31> I cant click on taskbar nothing happens
[18:21] <mparillo> That was happenning to me and I had to magic sys request: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key It has been a few weeks since I have had to.
[18:22] <est31> sysrq saved my ext4 couple of times already
[18:22] <est31> really cool its there
[19:13] <ahoneybun> Showtime People!: http://youtu.be/JInlEO8RMXo
[19:44] <afghan> hi
[19:45] <afghan> how can install kde plasa5 in ubuntu 14.4
[19:57] <ovidiu> Hello From Kubuntu Podcast
[19:57] <ahoneybun> HELLO ovidiu!
[19:57] <Rick_Timmis> Hi There Kubuntu Podcast demo team
[19:58] <Rick_Timmis> ovidiu: Hello
[19:58] <ahoneybun> ovidiu: Hello!
[19:58] <sgclark> howdy
[19:58] <sgclark> ovidiu: hi!
[20:00] <ovidiu> How do I close Firefox?
[20:00] <ovidiu> How Do I install my video drivers?
[20:00] <ahoneybun> ovidiu: search for "Driver Manager" in KickOff
[20:01] <ovidiu> what does ...foo bar do?
[20:11] <akasic> hi all, when i select log out, only a black screen appears, any help? thnx
[20:25] <fud> hello
[20:30] <akasic> hi, im getting a black screen instead of the log in one, any help? thnx
[20:59] <nightwalkerkg> Quick question, i am unable to watch the videos on youtube Html5 player in 60fps, they run more like at 30, 40fps tops.
[21:00] <nightwalkerkg> On free and non-free drivers. But i am able to watch at 60 on Windows. Any ideas ?
[21:03] <nightwalkerkg> Ok, nevermind, got my answer. A plugin in Firefox was causing the problem.
[21:04] <Guest41060> Hi, i am having issues installing kubuntu 14.04 on a new laptop. I get a slight flickering on the graphics while this artifact is gone for good while trying kubuntu 15.04 live dvd. This is obviously a graphics card issue. Can anybody help me? Should i add any options in the grub of 14.04 or anything like that?
[21:26] <s230u> Hi I installed kubuntu in French however some parts of system settings and plasma are half in English half in French. Its weird in the same application one label can be English and another French
[21:26] <s230u> http://imgur.com/f32wdV3
[23:28] <chencho9000> hi there
[23:30] <chencho9000> Im just new at kubuntu 15.05 how the hell can I do to turn off the bouncing icon?
[23:48] <mparillo_> System Settings > Applications > Launch feedback (though I have grown to love the bouncing cursor and add it back on distros that turn it off by default)


[07:44] <tsdgeos> Saviq: did MacSlow address your needs fixing at https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/modal-snap-decisions/+merge/210988 ? i think yes but want to be sure
[07:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I believe so
[07:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, looks fine
[07:45] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, Saviq: I think I've addressed all pending issues with the three related branches...
[07:46] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, Saviq: ... but let me re-check to be sure.
[07:46] <Saviq> MacSlow, I'm doing
[07:47] <Saviq> MacSlow, "9	+ libunity-api-dev >= 7.80.7,"
[07:47] <Saviq> MacSlow, missing parentheses
[07:47] <MacSlow> one sec
[07:47] <Saviq> MacSlow, in https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity-notifications/modal-snap-decisions/+merge/212483
[07:47] <Saviq> MacSlow, you missed this comment https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity-notifications/modal-snap-decisions/+merge/212483/comments/518638
[07:48] <MacSlow> Saviq, ah ok
[07:48] <Saviq> MacSlow, and this one https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity-api/version-bump-to-0.1.3/+merge/217882/comments/518637
[07:48] <tsdgeos> Saviq: when are we getting the CI builders switched over to utopic?
[07:48] <Saviq> tsdgeos, fginther is working on that currently
[07:48] <tsdgeos> oki
[07:52] <tsdgeos> damnit
[07:52] <tsdgeos> dpkg-buildpakcage doesn't build anymore!
[07:52] <tsdgeos> debian/rules:10: *** mixed implicit and normal rules: deprecated syntax
[07:52] <tsdgeos> make: *** No rule to make target 'clean'.  Stop.
[07:52] <tsdgeos> dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2
[07:53] <tsdgeos> any help?
[07:53] <tsdgeos> also
[07:54] <tsdgeos> why has the tabbar stuff been merged without the new tabbar in the sdk?
[07:55] <Saviq> tsdgeos, both have been merged
[07:55] <tsdgeos> but sdk not released?
[07:56] <Saviq> tsdgeos, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[07:56] <Saviq> hmm
[07:57] <tsdgeos> hmmmm
[07:59] <tsdgeos> ok, i think i may have been trying and un-merged to master branch
[07:59] <tsdgeos> my bad
[08:04] <tsdgeos> sil2100: didrocks: any help with the unity8 package not suceeding with dpkg-buildpackage ?
[08:09] <didrocks> tsdgeos: do you have a link?
[08:10] <tsdgeos> didrocks: no, i simply run dpkg-buildpackage and it fails
[08:10] <tsdgeos> didrocks: i can give you a paste if you want
[08:10] <MacSlow> Saviq, tsdgeos: so... all needed version-bump-related tweaks to  lp:~macslow/unity-notifications/modal-snap-decisions lp:~macslow/unity-api/version-bump-to-0.1.3 are done now
[08:11] <MacSlow> Saviq, I skipped the tap-vs-spaces changes from runnuing "wrap-and-sort -atv"
[08:11] <MacSlow> Saviq, these always look odd in diffs
[08:12] <tsdgeos> didrocks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7397410/
[08:12] <didrocks> tsdgeos: why are you not running bzr bd?
[08:12] <tsdgeos> because no reason
[08:13] <tsdgeos> dpkg-buildpackage has always worked, always used that
[08:13] <didrocks> you should rather use bzr bd though :p
[08:13] <didrocks> but let me look at what's wrong
[08:13] <tsdgeos> why should i use that?
[08:13] <tsdgeos> it's downloading stuff
[08:13] <tsdgeos> i don't want it to download unity8
[08:13] <tsdgeos> i want to build what i have in there
[08:14] <didrocks> tsdgeos: bzr bd downloads, but then incorporate your diff
[08:14] <didrocks> exclude .bzr as well and other random files
[08:14] <tsdgeos> doesn't seem very much bandwidth efficient :D
[08:14] <didrocks> tsdgeos: well, you just do that once
[08:14] <tsdgeos> when i all want to build is there already
[08:14] <didrocks> or you are on a 64kb/s line…
[08:15] <didrocks> to care about bandwitdh
[08:15] <Saviq> netsplit bad
[08:15] <didrocks> anyway, I'm telling you what's supported :p
[08:15] <didrocks> you take it or not
[08:15] <didrocks> I don't really care ;
[08:15] <didrocks> ;)
[08:15] <Saviq>  tsdgeos, what would be the symptom?
[08:15] <Saviq>  tsdgeos, tabs in dash work fine for me I think
[08:15] <Saviq>  tsdgeos, and debian/rules were not touched for ages...
[08:15] <Saviq>  must be dpkg deprecated something
[08:15] <Saviq>  sil2100, hey, do you know how to fix:
[08:15] <didrocks> on your issue
[08:15] <Saviq>  debian/rules:10: *** mixed implicit and normal rules: deprecated syntax
[08:15] <tsdgeos> besides bzr bd doesn't work either
[08:15] <Saviq>  make: *** No rule to make target 'clean'.  Stop.
[08:15] <Saviq>  sil2100, here's our rules: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/view/head:/debian/rules
[08:15] <didrocks> it's because you mix:
[08:15] <tsdgeos> so you may as well want to fix that
[08:15] <Saviq>  hmm I think I know
[08:15] <didrocks> build %:
[08:15] <Saviq>  hmpf
[08:15] <Saviq>  tsdgeos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7397402/ should fix the buildpackage issue
[08:15] <didrocks> and overrides_*
[08:15] <didrocks> so build %:
[08:15] <didrocks> and for instance: override_dh_auto_build:
[08:16] <didrocks> doesn't mix up well
[08:16] <Saviq> didrocks, ah, so we should override auto_build and it'll be fine again?
[08:16] <didrocks> Saviq: yeah, just use the override :)
[08:16] <didrocks> (it's already there)
[08:16] <Saviq> indeed
[08:17] <didrocks> I guess dh is pickier now
[08:18] <Saviq> indeed
[08:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, what would be the symptom of uitk not releasing the new tabbar and us - yes?
[08:18] <tsdgeos> Saviq: tabbar being empty
[08:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, works here (can't swipe with mouse, though)
[08:19] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yes, i think i was using a not properly merged branch. can't swipe where?
[08:19] <Saviq> tsdgeos, the tab bar
[08:19] <tsdgeos> didrocks: Saviq: i think i don't understand what fix is needed in the debian/ :D
[08:19] <Saviq> incoming
[08:20] <tsdgeos> Saviq: indeed, no swiping, i wonder if that's the new tab bar behaviour
[08:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7397428/
[08:23] <tsdgeos> man
[08:23] <tsdgeos> restart scope-registry killed my session
[08:24] <tsdgeos> Saviq: that patch still doesn't make it work for me, does it for you?
[08:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, indeed, doesn't
[08:26] <Saviq> tsdgeos, this makes it work http://paste.ubuntu.com/7397455/
[08:26] <Saviq> tsdgeos, not sure that's all correct though
[08:26] <tsdgeos> he he
[08:26] <tsdgeos> ok
[08:26] <Saviq> didrocks, ↑↑?
[08:26] <didrocks> Saviq: it's the one that should work
[08:26] <tsdgeos> i'm not the one to comment on it :D
[08:26] <didrocks> Saviq: and remove the PHONY build target
[08:27] <didrocks> not sure who put that there though (seems quite old)
[08:27] <Saviq> didrocks, so that's the question - we had the PHONY 'cause we have a "build" script
[08:27] <didrocks> ah ok
[08:27] <Saviq> didrocks, mterry put it there 'cause it conflicted
[08:27] <didrocks> hum
[08:27] <Saviq> didrocks, shall I rename?
[08:27] <didrocks> seems a poorly named script :)
[08:27] <didrocks> yeah
[08:27] <didrocks> sounds saner
[08:27] <Saviq> kk
[08:35] <tsdgeos> Saviq: you work on a MR then?
[08:41] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yes
[08:56] <Saviq> tsdgeos, didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-rules/+merge/218258
[09:13] <Saviq> MacSlow, there's a conflict in the unity-api MP
[09:13] <Saviq> MacSlow, you need to merge trunk
[09:13]  * MacSlow takes a look
[09:14] <mzanetti> Saviq: nooooo :D
[09:14] <mzanetti> Saviq: 77	[09:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, sorry, conflicts with the "build" target in dpkg :|
[09:15] <mzanetti> no I need to type a . + Tab after build... I can't teach my brain to do that after doing just ./build for a year now
[09:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, I know ;)
[09:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, we should rename the build dir, would solve that ;D
[09:15] <mzanetti> yeah, that'd work for me I guess
[09:15] <MacSlow> Saviq, fixed
[09:16] <Saviq> MacSlow, kk
[09:18] <Saviq> Mirv, hey, if you're around, could you please have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/qt-renames-no-dee/+merge/217444
[09:19] <Saviq> MacSlow, FWIW, there was no need to resubmit the unity-api branch, it's fine to have a branch depend on one that's already merged
[09:23] <Mirv> Saviq: done, looks good now
[09:23] <MacSlow> Saviq, I wasn't sure about that, thus did it anyway
[09:23] <Saviq> MacSlow, k
[09:24] <Saviq> let's land this $#!t
[09:24] <MacSlow> Saviq, +1 :)
[09:24] <tsdgeos> guys, make sure you don't have still any pckage from the demostuff era
[09:25] <tsdgeos> it was playing tricks on me
[09:25] <tsdgeos> dpkg -l | grep demostuff
[09:26] <Saviq> right, those had epochs...
[09:31] <didrocks> Saviq: approved
[09:32] <Saviq> didrocks, thanks
[09:32] <didrocks> yw
[09:37] <tsdgeos> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-rules/+merge/218258/comments/519833
[09:37] <Saviq> tsdgeos, hmm missed those
[09:38] <Saviq> tsdgeos, done
[09:39] <Saviq> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/qt-renames-no-dee/+merge/217444 is fixed, too, and Timo-approved
[09:39]  * Saviq adds to landing
[09:40] <tsdgeos> ok, i'll top approve
[10:04] <Wellark> mzanetti: please, see your email.
[10:07] <mzanetti> Wellark: replied
[10:10] <Wellark> mzanetti: thanks!
[13:05] <tsdgeos> garg
[13:05] <tsdgeos> we really need to fix unity7 restarting on unity8 autopilot tests
[13:08] <Saviq> tsdgeos, no, we just need to run unity8 tests under xvfb ;)
[13:08] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i'm usnsure that's the culprit
[13:08] <tsdgeos> it seems to me as if something is really killing my current session
[13:09] <tsdgeos> no idea how that could happen though
[13:09] <tsdgeos> but it makes finishing the tests for the dynamic card stuff hard
[13:09] <tsdgeos> i think i broke something in the autopilot side
[13:09] <tsdgeos> but if i get restarts...
[13:15] <Saviq> tsdgeos, should I try? :)
[13:16] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I don't think there's anything explicit that would cause that
[13:16] <tsdgeos> i know:/
[13:16] <tsdgeos> give it a try
[13:20] <tsdgeos> interestingly the thing reboots when "15:17:11.693 INFO process_helpers:146 - unity8 start/running, process 7128"
[13:20] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7398652/
[13:22] <Saviq> tsdgeos, so it happens in trunk for you, too?
[13:22] <tsdgeos> yep
[13:22] <tsdgeos> let's see if using kwin instead of unity helps
[13:22]  * Saviq will try in a sec
[13:23] <Saviq> tsdgeos, any test in particular?
[13:29] <tsdgeos> Saviq: unity8.shell.tests.test_emulators.DashEmulatorTestCase.test_open_unexisting_scope seems to be pretty offending
[13:29] <tsdgeos>  but it's the first unity8.shell.tests.test_emulators.DashEmulatorTestCase i run separately
[13:29] <tsdgeos> it may be all of them
[13:29] <tsdgeos> let me try some others
[13:30] <karni> Saviq: hey man. so, this time I think I have a legit issue (don't lol at me ;)). I have an api endpoint that returns results with images like: http://resizing.service.com/foo/<width>/<height>/<url encoded link to the image> - when I set that as String on the result, the source field of the result Image widget holds a Url, which is url-decoded automatically, which breaks the url. That is, the result is ...
[13:30] <karni> ... http://resizing.service.com/foo/<width>/<height>/<url-DECODED link to the image>, which is broken. This may be related to: http://www.macieira.org/blog/2011/09/qurl-in-qt-5-encoding/
[13:33] <tsdgeos> other unity8.shell.tests.test_emulators.DashEmulatorTestCase made the thing reboot too
[13:39] <tsdgeos> errrr
[13:39] <tsdgeos> it's upstart asserting :S
[13:39] <tsdgeos> in nih_unref
[13:39] <tsdgeos> the gdb backtrace is awfully full of ???
[13:40] <Saviq> tsdgeos, https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1222705
[13:40] <tsdgeos> looks like that
[13:40] <Saviq> tsdgeos, it's fix committed, not released yet unfortunately, I wanted to ping jodh about it, but he's off today
[13:40] <tsdgeos> let me install more symbols
[13:55] <tsdgeos> so it's funny
[13:55] <tsdgeos> now that i've installed the debug symbols
[13:55] <tsdgeos> it doesn't crash anymore ^_^
[13:55] <tsdgeos> was bound to happen
[13:57] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you fixed it!
[13:58] <tsdgeos> yeah \o/
[14:17] <MacSlow> Saviq, would we have a means to test sound-playback? I'm wondering how to test the sound-hint support in notifications.
[14:18] <Saviq> MacSlow, we have a dummy implementation of the Audio component in the PreviewAudio test or so
[14:18] <Saviq> MacSlow, we could instrument that a little to what you'd need to do the testing
[14:19] <Saviq> MacSlow, tests/mocks/QtMultimedia
[14:19] <mterry> Saviq, when you get a few minutes, I'd like to go over the config for silo 002 and restart builds if necessary.  I've trimmed things a bit
[14:19] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok... I'll look into that and see to add a test before doing a MP for the sound-hint related branches
[14:19] <Saviq> mterry, sure, just after standup should be ok
[14:19] <mterry> Saviq, cool thanks
[14:19] <fginther> tsdgeos, Saviq, the builds should all be on utopic as soon as the job updates are deployed
[14:20] <Saviq> mterry, btw, what's actually *missing* for us to land that silo? other than a review on the unity8 MP?
[14:21] <fginther> Saviq, I still have a problem with the qmluitests. I don't have the VMs working yet to run these. Is it ok to run them with trusty for another day or two, or should we just disable them until it's ready?
[14:21] <Saviq> fginther, it's fine
[14:21] <fginther> Saviq, thx
[14:22] <Saviq> fginther, TBH I've almost got autopkgtests for that ready...
[14:22] <mterry> Saviq, as of this morning, just the testing framework changes to use the unlock-device script that unity8 provides (instead of doing it themselves)  -- because in split, unlock method changes so we want to let unity8 control that logic
[14:22] <Saviq> fginther, not entirely sure it's useful to spend any more time on the qmluitests job
[14:22] <Saviq> fginther, is there anyone else using it?
[14:22] <mterry> Saviq, I'm working with doanac and others to get that all tested, but it's been slow going
[14:23] <Saviq> mterry, mhm, got it
[14:23] <fginther> Saviq, there are a few other tests that use the VMs, so we'll still need them for a little while at least
[14:23] <fginther> Saviq, do those autopkgtests need to run in an X environment?
[14:23] <Saviq> fginther, ok got it, so it's not just about the job but the VMs themselves
[14:23] <Saviq> fginther, nope, all xvfb
[14:24] <fginther> Saviq, very cool
[14:25] <Saviq> fginther, yeah, with recordmydesktop, too! ;)
[14:25] <Saviq> fginther, of any failed tests
[14:25] <tsdgeos> i am suddenly without sound
[14:25] <fginther> Saviq, and yes, it's mostly a matter of setting up the VMs. change the job to work with utopic is mostly a search and replace
[14:25] <tsdgeos> back in a minute
[14:38] <mterry> Is there a way to stop nautilus from popping up every time my mako reboots?
[14:41] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/dynamic_specialized_cards/+merge/218089
[14:42] <Saviq> tsdgeos, plugins/Dash/CardCreatorCache.qml	UNKNOWN	*No copyright*
[14:43]  * tsdgeos fixes
[14:43] <mterry> Saviq, can you pastebin me the current silo 002 config?  I'll pastebin back the now-correct one
[14:53] <Saviq> mterry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7399057/
[14:57] <mterry> Saviq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399084/ should be sufficient
[14:58] <mterry> Saviq, and everything in there (except for lightdm) should be triggered to build.  Order shouldn't matter
[14:59] <Saviq> mterry, kicking the whole silo
[14:59] <mterry> Saviq, awesome, thanks
[14:59] <Saviq> mterry, except we need landing team ACK for the telephony-service MP which wasn't there before
[15:04] <karni> Saviq: FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1316183
[15:06] <Saviq> karni, every time you write "it's", expand it to "it is" and see if the sentence still works, otherwise you want "its" (like his, hers) ;D
[15:09] <karni> Saviq: right, that's why wrote it's, because I wanted "yes, it is improperly decoded, ..." :)
[15:09] <karni> Saviq: its quality is improperly decided, thus, it's improperly decoded :)
[15:10] <karni> *decoded hehe
[15:10] <Saviq> karni, I meant in title
[15:10] <Saviq> karni, see ↑↑↑
[15:10] <karni> d'UH
[15:10] <karni> Saviq: thanks pal :D
[15:10] <Saviq> karni, I'm just allergic to it, sorry ;)
[15:10] <Saviq> mainly because I had to make myself allergic to it to stop making the same mistake
[15:11] <karni> Saviq: no, man, I appreciate. I'm allergic to that as well, must have been multitasking, I'm embarassed to have done that mistake! :)
[15:11] <karni> double *r ;)
[15:11] <Saviq> :D
[15:13] <Saviq> mterry, silo 002 is building
[15:13] <Saviq> mterry, CI-SNCF will tell you when done
[15:13] <mterry> Saviq, thanks!
[15:14] <mterry> Saviq, there was also supposed to be a silo last week for ~mterry/ubuntu-touch-session/move-lightdm and another u-t-s branch.  Do you happen to know if that just got lost or delayed?
[15:14] <Saviq> mterry, let me see
[15:15] <Saviq> mterry, looks like it's https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-013
[15:15] <Saviq> mterry, can you give me a description to put in the train for this?
[15:15] <mterry> Saviq, cool.  I assume it's in the queue then.  Just didn't want to lose it
[15:16] <Saviq> mterry, since this was in the middle of broken spreadsheet, it doesn't have any description
[15:16] <mterry> Saviq, sure.  "Allow /custom override of the Touch lightdm config by moving it to /usr/share instead of /etc.  And clean up the packaging a bit while there"
[15:20] <Saviq> mterry, kk, will try and land it today, too
[15:48] <tsdgeos> Saviq: damn we need to get your dpkg-buildpackage fixes in asap, otherwise CI is useless :D
[15:48] <Saviq> tsdgeos, testing right now, will push the button in 5 or so, assuming everything's ok
[15:49] <tsdgeos> \o/
[15:52] <Saviq> tsdgeos, is there anywhere I could test zoomable image on the phone?
[15:52] <tsdgeos> Saviq: changing the code is what i did
[15:52] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ok, so no ;)
[15:53] <tsdgeos> to make all the zoomable images actually zoomable
[15:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, well, they're not meant to be zoomable inherently are they? don't we have a bool there? /me looks
[15:53] <tsdgeos> Saviq: we do
[15:53] <tsdgeos> Saviq: but i tested it by making them all zoomable
[15:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, got it
[15:54] <tsdgeos> so i had something to actually test
[16:01] <Saviq> tedg, hey, I'm trying to verify the launcher dbus bits working, can you point me to the correct gdbus call, I tried:
[16:01] <Saviq> gdbus introspect --session -d org.freedesktop.DBus  -o /com/canonical/Unity/Launcher/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.xbmcremote_xbmcremote_<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:01] <Saviq> but I'm getting "is not a valid object path"
[16:02] <tedg> Saviq, Yeah, you need to encode the "_"
[16:02] <Saviq> tedg, url-encode?
[16:02] <tedg> Saviq, No, "dbus encode"
[16:02] <Saviq> ...
[16:02] <tedg> Just a sec
[16:03] <tedg> gdbus introspect --session -d org.freedesktop.DBus  -o /com/canonical/Unity/Launcher/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.xbmcremote_95xbmcremote_9<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:03] <tedg> Nope
[16:03] <tedg> gdbus introspect --session -d org.freedesktop.DBus  -o /com/canonical/Unity/Launcher/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.xbmcremote_5Fxbmcremote_5F<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:04] <Saviq> tedg, thanks
[16:04] <tedg> Needs to be in hex
[16:04] <Saviq> tedg, same error
[16:04] <tedg> Saviq, Get the list from the launcher: gdbus introspect --session -d org.freedesktop.DBus  -o /com/canonical/Unity/Launcher/
[16:05] <Saviq> not a valid object path :|
[16:05] <tedg> Hmm...
[16:06] <tedg> Saviq, try this real quick: gdbus introspect --session -d org.freedesktop.DBus  -o /com/canonical/Unity/Launcher
[16:06] <tedg> If that doesn't work I'll get a test system setup and figure out what's up.
[16:06] <Saviq> tedg, yeah, that's working
[16:06] <mzanetti> Saviq: qdbus com.canonical.Unity.Launcher /com/canonical/Unity/Launcher/gallery_2Dapppp org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher.Item count 8
[16:06] <mzanetti> less --
[16:06] <mzanetti> :)
[16:07] <mzanetti> fix the appId tho
[16:07] <tedg> Guessing the "." are encoded as well.
[16:07] <tedg> Didn't want to do that by hand :-)
[16:10] <Saviq> mzanetti, yeah, that didn't complain, nothing on the gallery launcher, though, is that for the deb-installed gallery or should work for click, too?
[16:11] <Saviq> mzanetti, and not too many ps?
[16:11] <Saviq> and not a valid name any more :|
[16:11] <Saviq> ah wrong
[16:12] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah... that was in the history because I intentionally tried wrong appids
[16:12] <mzanetti> Saviq: you need to set visible to true, otehrwise it doesn't display anything
[16:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, did that ;)
[16:13] <mzanetti> hmm... was working for me when I did the review...
[16:13] <mzanetti> hmm... not that I look at it, I might only have tried with preinstalled apps :/
[16:13] <mzanetti> naughty me...
[16:14] <Saviq> mzanetti, gallery is preinstalled, but still click
[16:14] <Saviq> ok it's not working for me, but I expect this to be because of wrong qdbus calls...
[16:16] <Saviq> can't get anything to show up :|
[16:18] <mzanetti> Saviq: this worked for me just now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399555
[16:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, so that should work on the click gallery, you didn't install the .deb one?
[16:18] <mzanetti> I probably did
[16:18] <Saviq> ah countVisible
[16:19] <Saviq> that's better
[16:19] <mzanetti> ok :)
[16:19] <Saviq> mzanetti, so what's required after /Launcher/?
[16:19] <Saviq> gallery_2Dapp == gallery_app?
[16:20] <mzanetti> well, the appid. whatever that is :D
[16:20] <mzanetti> yes.
[16:20] <mzanetti> the above statement is true
[16:20] <Saviq> so what would that be for xbmcremote?
[16:20] <mzanetti> maybe try replacing the . with _2X (don't know the code for . by memory)
[16:21] <mzanetti> Saviq: _2E
[16:21]  * Saviq no gets how is gallery different
[16:22] <Saviq> aanyway
[16:22] <mzanetti> Saviq: this is my launcher config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399589
[16:23] <mzanetti> seems gallery_2Dapp is gallery-app, not gallery_app
[16:23] <mzanetti> you need whatever is in the "id" field.
[16:23] <mzanetti> urlencoded
[16:25] <Saviq> YES
[16:25] <Saviq> com_2Eubuntu_2Edeveloper_2Emzanetti_2Exbmcremote_5Fxbmcremote_5F1_2E4_2E1_2E0
[16:26] <Saviq> _check_
[16:26] <Saviq> ok, ACK
[16:26] <Saviq> gtg
[17:35] <karni> sufficiently wide image extends to right of device screen in scope result preview, instead of matching available width. known issue, or should I report?
[17:50] <mzanetti> mterry: hey, is it intentional that you can flick the greeter away the "wrong" direction?
[17:51] <mzanetti> as in: start dragging from the right edge, move mostly across the screen and flick it back to the right quickly
[17:51] <mterry> mzanetti, yes
[17:51] <mterry> mzanetti, wait, maybe
[17:51] <mzanetti> it will move over the screen and go away to the right
[17:51] <mzanetti>  :D
[17:52] <mterry> mzanetti, the unlock to the right is intentional.  I'm less clear on what design intended for a rapid cancel like that
[17:52] <mzanetti> I don't think it should unlock in this case
[17:52] <mzanetti> seems goofy
[17:53] <mterry> mzanetti, I'm not in a position to test it for myself right now (running some tests on my mako), but sounds a little unexpected yeah
[17:53] <mzanetti> not critical, you can test it later
[17:55] <mterry> mzanetti, maybe file a bug and assign to me to look at
[17:56] <mterry> Else I'll get to it later
[17:56] <mzanetti> mterry: ack
[17:56] <mzanetti> mterry: that drop shadow makes such a huge difference :)
[17:56] <mzanetti> lookin awesome
[17:57] <mterry> :)
[18:10] <karni> Are annotations supposed to work already? There's related code in Ubuntu SDK scope template, but it does nothing.
[18:11] <karni> I can't get Annotation to work either. Perhaps it's not hooked up in the shell yet?
[18:43] <mterry> Saviq, hmm, can you add https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-rules/+merge/218258 to silo 002 too?  Silo build failed without it
[19:00] <Saviq> mterry, it's already being landed
[19:00] <Saviq> mterry, will kick it again when it's in trunk
[19:02] <mterry> Saviq, ok, thanks
[19:03] <mterry> Saviq, I didn't notice a message in choo-choo channel and the bot there thought the silo's status was still 'preparing packages' -- is that normal for this failure case?
[19:04] <Saviq> mterry, the same is in the spreadsheet
[19:04] <Saviq> mterry, I think yeah, it's missing a "failed to prepare packages" state
[19:05] <mterry> Saviq, understood.  Just means they aren't quite fire and forget
[19:05] <Saviq> mterry, this looks like a bug, actually
[19:05] <Saviq> mterry, file one against cupstream2distro please
[19:05] <mterry> Saviq, k
[19:05] <Saviq> mterry, it definitely should be, that's the whole idea behind the bot
[19:07] <Saviq> mterry, well *actually* "mktemp: failed to create directory via template '/tmp/debsign.XXXXXXXX': No space left on device"
[19:08] <mterry> Saviq, where do you see that?
[19:08] <Saviq> mterry, wrong job
[19:08] <Saviq> mterry, http://people.canonical.com/~rbpark/citrain/ links to that job for some reason
[19:09] <mterry> Saviq, bug 1316276 filed
[19:38] <Saviq> mterry, I wanted to test the u-t-s landing, any pointers? other than ogra's "see if it boots'? ;)
[19:39] <mterry> Saviq, see if it boots, confirm that /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/52-ubuntu-touch.conf is gone
[19:39] <mterry> Saviq, and confirm that /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/52-ubuntu-touch.conf exists
[19:39] <Saviq> mterry, kk
[20:03] <thomi> Saviq: still awake?
[20:04] <thomi> Anyone here know why my unity 7 session is killed when I try and run the unity8 autopilot tests on my utopic desktop?
[20:05] <Saviq> thomi, upstart crashes probably
[20:06] <thomi> Saviq: who's looking into the fix?
[20:06] <Saviq> thomi, it's fix committed
[20:06] <Saviq> https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1222705
[20:06] <Saviq> thomi, will talk tomorrow to James to get it released
[20:07] <thomi> Saviq: ahh - FWIW, I don't see anyting from upstart in /var/crash
[20:07] <thomi> Saviq: awesome, thanks man :)
[20:07] <thomi> then I can make sure that unity8 will continue to work under autopilot 1.5 :)
[20:07] <Saviq> thomi, it actually asserts, might not leave anything in .crash maybe
[20:07] <thomi> interesting
[20:48] <Saviq> mterry, silo 013 ACKed, should land soonish
[20:48] <mterry> Saviq, awesome thanks
[21:08] <Saviq> aaargh the tags...
[21:15] <Saviq> mterry, I'll kick silo 002 again as soon as I strip tags from trunk... they got in with the latest merge again :[
[21:16] <mterry> Saviq, someone still has tags on their system?  :(
[21:16] <mterry> I hope I don't have any lying around
[21:17] <Saviq> mterry, Paul did, Mirco, too
[21:17] <Saviq> and I didn't check that before building the silo, at which point it was too late