[08:28] <ActionParsnip> DaZ: yes > /dev/null   is funny too, chews your cpu good
[08:28] <DaZ> Madpilot: always
[08:28] <Flannel> DaZ: Would you like to be removed from the channel as well?
[08:28] <pratik> madarchot
[08:28] <ardchoille> maco: kicked? good, but I would have banned them as they know exactly what they were posting
[08:28] <roflparrot> cat /dev/zero > /dev/null used up cpu yeah
[08:28] <roflparrot> but it didn't lockl my system
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot: try yes instead
[08:29] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, nice!
[08:29] <roflparrot> ActionParsnip: example?
[08:29] <Madpilot> OK, would everyone stop posting Stupid Command Line Tricks, thanks?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot: yes > /dev/null
[08:29] <roflparrot> no
[08:29] <roflparrot> ok imma try
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: helped by the 700Mb ISO in trash ;)
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: still running it seems
[08:30] <APERSON> Madpilot, command line commands are the easiest way to give support, as you simply have to copy and paste commands.  It is far more consistent that using a gui to give support
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: +1
[08:31] <hellomon> +1
[08:31] <bakarat_> is the upgrade path from 9.04 to 9.10 somewhat stable now?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: but new guys always say "i shouldnt have to do this. I'm not a programmer!"
[08:31] <bakarat_> considering upgrading my work laptop, but i can't really afford it die on me
[08:31] <Madpilot> APERSON, that wasn't what I was telling people to stop. I was commenting on some of the "CPU locking" and filesystem wrecking.. stuff.
[08:31] <hellomon> well ive been using 9.1 for about a week now. its alright
[08:32] <bakarat_> hellomon, did you upgrade or fresh install?
[08:32] <roflparrot> ok I have two instances of yes > /dev/null going and cpu has maxed both cores, I have a song playing and it skipped when I opened system monitor
[08:32] <hellomon> fresh.
[08:32] <APERSON> Madpilot, well, forgive me, I didn't read all of my scrollback
[08:32] <Balsaq> littlegreen its working
[08:32] <bakarat_> hellomon, ah, well it's the upgrade path i'm worried about :D
[08:32] <P_Kable> Hello, how do I restore my grub from the live cd please ?
[08:32] <Balsaq> its printing
[08:32] <hellomon> oh. haha.
[08:32] <APERSON> Having an eeepc means this channel moves fast!
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | P_Kable
[08:32] <littlegreen> Balsaq Nice to hear it
[08:33] <Balsaq> littlegreenawesome explanation
[08:33] <alo> halo
[08:33] <Balsaq> actionparsnip thanks
[08:34] <littlegreen> Balsaq I'm glad I helped
[08:34] <luomo> My DHCP connection with my modem is not working. Any help
[08:34] <Balsaq> APERSON Thank you very much i have it
[08:34] <Balsaq> installed it
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: easy stuff dude
[08:34] <Balsaq> have no clue what i just cleansed but i really cleansed it
[08:34] <Balsaq> pages of it?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: i suggest you explain the virtues and advantages of sudo to your HP employed friend
[08:35] <Balsaq> yup
[08:35] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, /etc/apt/apt.conf/20archive might be what we're looking for setting the number of kernels we keep
[08:35] <Balsaq> he's a windows guy
[08:35] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, but I'm not sure, that dir seems to be a place to look
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: yep, thought so
[08:35] <littlegreen> luomo what kind of modem exactly are you using?
[08:35] <Balsaq> well at least i have a record of all this stuff i whacked
[08:35] <APERSON> Balsaq, glad I could help.  You cleared lots of logs and caches
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: windows users are created as admin so they have full reign over their systems and most just log in as admin to do their daily stuff
[08:36] <Balsaq> now  if i want to bleach it again do i still follow the same command or wil lthat install it over the install
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: same thing applys, all browsers are ran as adminn so any virus will have full access to all system files
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: then they moan they get problems
[08:36] <luomo> modem is for DSL internet connection and dhcp connection with it is not working.It is manufactured by my service provider
[08:37] <Guest74170> my sound goes mute early as i turn it down even though it isn't all the way down on the sound meter on the screen
[08:37] <Balsaq> yeah he just couldnt figure out why i wasnt root ..ket tellin me i meissed something
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: vista has this stupid asking "are yuo really sure" pop up which most users hack their system to remove
[08:37] <littlegreen> luomo so you have a DSL router you cannot access?
[08:37] <Guest74170> it jumps]
[08:37] <luomo> yes i can access on windows but not on ubuntu 9.10
[08:37] <littlegreen> luomo are you using wired or wireless connection?
[08:37] <Balsaq> if i want to bleach it out again in a few weeks. do i follow the same command or will ibe installing it over top of itself?
[08:38] <luomo> i cant connect to both type of connections
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: no need to reinstall it, just run the app
[08:38] <Balsaq> ok so the app is in my menus now somewhere...ill find it
[08:38] <Balsaq> cool
[08:38] <littlegreen> luomo is that a PC that you are using or a laptop?
[08:38] <luomo> a laptop
[08:38] <Balsaq> wow thanks
[08:39] <ardchoille> Balsaq: should be in Applications > System
[08:39] <Balsaq> ok looking thanks
[08:40] <littlegreen> luomo what is the output of the "ifconfig" in terminal?
[08:40] <Balsaq> weird its there...twice...one says bleachbit...one says bleachbit (as root)....printed just like that?
[08:40] <Guest74170> my sound goes mute early as i turn it down even though it isn't all the way down on the sound meter on the screen. the sound jumps from mute to loud and it sucks
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: if your friend comes over, open a terminal and run: sudo -s     he'll feel right at home then ;)
[08:41] <Balsaq> but its therewell iwas telling him about the sudo apt get install non free stuff
[08:41] <Guest74170> who knows about this?
[08:41] <Balsaq> why is bleachbit listed twice
[08:41] <luomo> no wireless extensions.
[08:41] <luomo> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[08:41] <luomo> wmaster0  no wireless extensions.
[08:41] <luomo> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"UTStarcom"
[08:41] <luomo>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:1B:57:F4:F7:EF
[08:41] <luomo>           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[08:41] <FloodBot5> luomo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <littlegreen> luomo don't paste like that... ever again!
[08:42] <ardchoille> maco: May I pm you?
[08:42] <Balsaq> ActionParsnip he did all kinds of crazy stuff to my computer was typing like a madman
[08:42] <luomo> ok i am sorry
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: not used it until now personally. i'd imagine one targets root home (pointless) and the other the users home
[08:42] <maco> ardchoille: i guess...
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: maybe APERSON can fill us in
[08:43] <littlegreen> luomo seems like you have established a wireless connection... did you try to input your IP manualy?
[08:43] <Balsaq> freaked me outyes in my system it now has bleachbit...and bleachbit (as root)
[08:43] <Zargle> Port 80 is blocked how might i get around that?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Zargle: forward the port in your router
[08:44] <Zargle> yah my ISP blocks it
[08:44] <luomo> no
[08:44] <Zargle> yes..
[08:44] <APERSON> Balsaq, you can run it either as your user or as the admin
[08:44] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[08:44] <Balsaq> which do i use next time, plain ole bleachbit or bleachbit (as root)...as it says in my sytem...oh well who cares i am way better off now
[08:44] <littlegreen> Zargle routers use port 80 for their administration panels. I suggest you forward that port or use port 8080
[08:44] <APERSON> Balsaq, tjhe admin user can remove more things, but is all more dangerous
[08:44] <Balsaq> ok i see you say either one
[08:44] <Balsaq> thanks
[08:44] <APERSON> Balsaq, I run it as user first, then the admin
[08:45] <luomo> My wireless connection is not establishe. It shows:"wireless is not connected"
[08:45] <Zargle> http://www.changeip.com/at/kb-print/27.html
[08:45] <Balsaq> ill do it the safer way
[08:45] <APERSON> Balsaq, right on :)
[08:45] <Guest81437> −89.2 °C (−128.6 °F)
[08:45] <luomo> and how to input the ip
[08:45] <Zargle> im trying to do a remote access
[08:45] <Balsaq> and ill print what i remove
[08:45] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, best information so far I can find is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels
[08:45] <Guest81437> can someone help me with my volume jumping around on the meter?
[08:45] <Zargle> any idea
[08:45] <littlegreen> Zargle use port 8080
[08:46] <APERSON> but /etc/default/kernel-helper-rc doesn't exist
[08:46] <littlegreen> Zargle remote access for what exactly? Port 80 is, in most cases, used for http
[08:46] <Zargle> im using transmission... and im trying to do a remote access its says using port 9010
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -rf ~/.pulse*
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: then press alt+f2 and type: pulseaudio
[08:47] <luomo> littlegreen:My wireless connection is not establishe. It shows:"wireless is not connected" and how to input the ip?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: see if that helps
[08:47] <Zargle> would that work out of lan
[08:47] <exploreralex> where can we get a list of commands used in terminal and kayboard shortcuts?
[08:47] <exploreralex> keyboard*
[08:47] <littlegreen> luomo there should be an networking icon on one of your panels. Doesn't left-click shows available wireless extensions?
[08:48] <Balsaq> wow i feel 10lbs lighter...ahhhhhhhhyou see my in law put an nvidia driver in here and my screen was stretched sideways...so i dumped it after he left and now its perfect but i knew there was more too it then that and i do see it got cleaned up on the bleachbit print out
[08:48] <littlegreen> Zargle port 9010 is not blocked, judging by the info you gave
[08:48] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[08:48] <damo22> is a cheapo geforce 9400GT compatible with ubuntu?
[08:48] <Zargle> i have DMZ enabled don't that port forward all of the ports?
[08:48] <Zargle> Error: I could not see your service on <IP_ADDRESS> on port (9010)
[08:48] <Zargle> Reason: Connection refused
[08:48] <Guest81437> ActionParsnip: it's still doing it
[08:49] <damo22> whats a really cheap nv card that is fully supported by ubuntu?
[08:49] <littlegreen> Zargle not exactly. That error doesn't suggest not-forwarded ports. Look for the problem elsewhere
[08:49] <Hans_Henrik> umm.. how can i manually add themes to gtk 2x?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: hmm, if you run: lspci | grep -i audio     you may find bugs for the sound card or maybe guides
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> !theme | Hans_Henrik
[08:50] <luomo> i ahvent tried that option. I will do this
[08:50] <littlegreen> damo22 most NVidia graphical adapters ARE supported by ubuntu
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> damo22: any geforce 6xxx series is grooovy
[08:50] <Balsaq> ok time for bed thanks again
[08:50] <damo22> ActionParsnip: umm cool, wish i knew where to get an oldschool one like that
[08:51] <roflparrot> I have two 6xxx sitting on my shelf
[08:51] <roflparrot> a friend gave them to me
[08:51] <Guest81437> that just told me what my audio device and driver is
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> damo22: ebay
[08:51] <roflparrot> I used them when my 8800 died
[08:51] <roflparrot> and they worked fine
[08:51] <littlegreen> damo22 does the machine you want to get an NVidia for has AGP or PCIE slot?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: yes, you can now use that to websearch
[08:51] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, huzzah! dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d'
[08:51] <Zargle> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:9010/transmission/web/
[08:51] <Zargle>  wouldnt that work
[08:51] <Zargle> port 9091
[08:51] <Zargle> usname and password
[08:52] <monestri> any scim users here?
[08:52] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, pipe the output of that to xargs aptitude remove -y and you've got something to autoremove kernels :)
[08:52] <monestri> can't figure out how to switch input methods / turn it on
[08:52] <Hans_Henrik> Eye of Gnome 2.28.1 doesn't display the "animation" in animated gif's/png's with the default settings in Karmic, is that a bug?
[08:52] <monestri> ctrl + space does nothing for me
[08:52] <damo22> my computer mobo just died, im thinking of purchasing a really cheap dual core computer from scratch.... i found one on ebay for a couple hundred.... just need a really cheap video card
[08:52] <maco> APERSON: wow, i need to save that
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: dude, thats some crazy stuff
[08:52] <damo22> pci-e
[08:52] <littlegreen> Zargle that's internal IP address... doesn't get out of the router's subnet at all
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> I can't get my eee 1000HE to connect to wireless after suspend :(
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: (copy)
[08:52] <APERSON> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/74965
[08:52] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[08:52] <APERSON> I stole it from there
[08:52] <Zargle> yes im connected to wifi on my phone and on the computer
[08:53] <Zargle> shouldnt it work
[08:53] <Zargle> for torrents every port i use it says Port is closed
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    is it a broadcom wifi?
[08:53] <ervina> uh
[08:54] <ervina> tman donk
[08:54] <littlegreen> damo22 if the PC is with an AGP slot I would suggest Nvidia 6600 - It's the best choice for AGP. PCI Express well... you can always get .... something more ;-)
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: let me check
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: 2.65Gb and completed running bleachbit
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: nice app fellah
[08:54] <Zargle> TCP? or UDP? Littlegreen? what ports should i forward
[08:55] <littlegreen> Zargle both
[08:55] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, be restricted to a 4gb drive, and see how much you look for solutions to saving space :)
[08:55] <Zargle> alright what port? inbout? 80-80
[08:55] <Zargle> 8080-8080
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: can imagine, netbooks are sweet though
[08:56] <f00bar80> i used to UNetbootin to install ubuntu to my usb stick , but when i tried to reboot i got "no bootable partition in table" ,  any comment ?
[08:57] <Nige> hello
[08:57] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: damn, somebody moved it (family member, not sure what they did with it), sorry :(
[08:57] <APERSON> f00bar80, what flash drive you you have? not all can be booted from, especially sandisk cruizers
[08:58] <Nige> I am trying to use dvdbackup backup my dvd collectino at home, however it cant find libdvdread4 which is installed. I have checked playing of dvd via vlc which works correctly
[08:58] <Nige> any hints
[08:58] <f00bar80> APERSON, Lexar
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: is there a known issue with the eee's wireless?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: well, if it is (wait for the site to come up again (its down)) and use these guides: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[08:58] <hareldvd> Can I configure nautilus to mount network disks on a different directory than ~/.gvfs ??
[08:58] <APERSON> Darkfoe, what eeepc? mine works fine
[08:58] <q0_0p> hareldvd, manually mount it
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, i'll check that when I find the machine
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: its just crappy broadcom things not waking up, so you need a small script to re-modprobe the driver and they wake up
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> APERSON: eee 1000HE
[08:58] <q0_0p> hareldvd, what r u trying to mount
[08:58] <APERSON> DarwinSurvivor, eeeuser is a great community, btw
[08:59] <f00bar80> APERSON, any comment ?
[08:59] <APERSON> f00bar80, can't say I do, sorry
[08:59] <f00bar80> ppl any comment ?
[08:59] <APERSON> f00bar80, unless you can bring up a boot menu from your BIOS
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> APERSON: hmm, half their news seems to be windows related...
[08:59] <q0_0p> hareldvd, http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html
[09:00] <f00bar80> APERSON, my boot menu shows USB HARDDISK USB FLOPPY and USB CDROM , and that's the order i used for the boot menu
[09:00] <APERSON> DarwinSurvivor, their wiki and their forums are great though, generally
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> APERSON, ActionParsnip: is there any difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-netbook_remix other than the interface?
[09:01] <APERSON> DarwinSurvivor, it's about the same, NBR might be stripped a tad
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: thats it, the gui is different to suit the small screens on netbooks
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> at first i install unr but the person who uses the machine doesn't like the interface, and karmic doesn't have the "switch to desktop mode" thing anymore :(
[09:01] <APERSON> I always just install normal ubuntu and tweak it myself
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: i use ulite andbuild upwards, less bloat
[09:02] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, ulite?  what about ubuntu-minimal?
[09:02] <q0_0p> ulite has the apt-get feature?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: indeed
[09:03] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, nice
[09:03] <Kottizen> Where do I find the login-window-settings like in 9.04? Now it's only like 3 options, before you could change theme etc.
[09:03] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, so all i would have to do is add repos and im good?
[09:03] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, with ulite?
[09:04] <ervina> aq butuh tman nie
[09:04] <littlegreen> !themes Kottizen
[09:04] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I wonder if adding that kernal removal script to /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ would be a good idea...
[09:04] <littlegreen> Kottizen Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: setup a virtual system and try ;)
[09:05] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I'll just make a snapshot of my eee and do it on the real thing :P
[09:05] <janpogocki> hello, is irc.ubuntu.com alias of freenode.net ? is it the same server?
[09:05] <Kottizen> littlegreen: I know where to find them, but not how to i install a login-theme.
[09:05] <APERSON> janpogocki, yes
[09:05] <Kottizen> janpogocki: It is.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: yeah it installs a barebones system and you can install what you need. If you are just going to install ubuntu-desktop then you are wasting your time
[09:05] <littlegreen> janpogocki I think so
[09:05] <janpogocki> ok, thanks :)
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: sounds like a plan, 4gb snapshot aint too bad ;)
[09:05] <hey_boy> Hello guys, I want to use Speech Recognition in Ubuntu. Any good sites / programs suggestions?
[09:05] <Timbauns> hello why does this phrase not work in my terminal?
[09:05] <Timbauns>  :(){ :|:& };:
[09:06] <Timbauns> It jsut dows not work =(
[09:06] <ardchoille> !danger
[09:06] <maco> !danger\
[09:06] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, can i add ubuntu karmic repos to update libraries? would that be ok?
[09:06] <Timbauns> ?
[09:06] <ardchoille> Timbauns: Please don't post that anymore
[09:06] <Timbauns> why so?
[09:06] <APERSON> can we just ban him?
[09:06] <ardchoille> I wish
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: well it will use karmic repos by default
[09:07] <APERSON> post it again and I'll notify an op
[09:07] <maco> Timbauns: do you know what that command does?
[09:07] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, wont it bug about not having ubuntu-desktop?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: what does that do? looks crazy
[09:07] <Timbauns> no
[09:07] <ratbert> any major bugs in the 9.10???
[09:07] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, just wondering
[09:07] <maco> ActionParsnip: fork bomb
[09:07] <maco> it crashes your system
[09:07] <Timbauns> maco: no it does not work
[09:07] <Timbauns> holy crap? why does it not work then?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> maco: gotcha
[09:07] <roflparrot> testing forkbomb...
[09:07] <indus> maco: i hear there wont be any new theme again in 10.04?
[09:07] <ardchoille> Timbauns: This needs to go to another channel, not here
[09:07] <APERSON> if by crash, you mean freeze, yes
[09:07] <maco> Timbauns: stop trying to get us to try it out so you can laugh
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> maco: simple reboot fixes it i guess ;)
[09:08] <maco> indus: *shrug* im a kubuntu person. dunno what those gnome people are doing
[09:08] <anitha> I am unable to use lock screen & screensaver
[09:08] <indus> maco: aah ok K Is beautiful
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: i guess but I always clean install so upgrading to new distro isnt an issue (thats the time you'll need the annoying metapackage)
[09:09] <indus> maco: actually i wonder why people had such long discussions on forums about the look, they already have it with kubuntu
[09:09] <APERSON> anyone have any good solutions for imaging a drive to a samba share or ssh ?
[09:09] <maco> indus: they do not yet know the awesome that is kde ;-)
[09:09] <hey_boy> Any help available on Speech Recognition?
[09:09] <indus> maco: i want to move to it now, iam tired of ugliness
[09:09] <roflparrot> yeah the forkbomb works a treat
[09:09] <ratbert> this may be a stupid question but does ubuntu has a firewall?
[09:10] <indus> also those threads give the impression ubuntu is ugly, add a K and all is good
[09:10] <APERSON> ratbert, yes, iptables
[09:10] <ardchoille> !firewall | ratbert
[09:10] <indus> ratbert: yeah ufw
[09:10] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i'm just using ubuntu 8.10 and just grabing what i need to run programs from karmic repos
[09:10] <roflparrot> the linux kernel has iptables and userland applications like frestarter interfaces them
[09:10] <maco> ratbert: iptables is included but unconfigured by default. lack of configuration is not an issue, however, since no services are listening on any ports by default. this is effectively like "drop all"
[09:10] <APERSON> ratbert, I like to use firestarter to configure it
[09:10] <indus> ratbert: so what APERSON means is that ufw is a front end to manage the underlying firewall called IPTABLES
[09:11] <indus> ratbert: USE gufw a gui frontend
[09:11] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, new versions to programs needs newer libraries so i just did it like that; same with U-lite?
[09:11] <lyhana8> hi, I got some problem with the gnome-panel. It seem to fail to launch correctly and I need to kill him then is restart and work fine
[09:11] <APERSON> so is firestarter
[09:11] <ardchoille> maco: Best description I've seen yet
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: thats what i do, i install lxde then once in the gui I can instll my usual stuff, then carve out the drivers I dont use and start building from there
[09:11] <hey_boy> Hello guys. any Idea about Speech Recognition on Ubuntu 9.10?
[09:11] <maco> APERSON: gufw has a much nicer interface than firestarter
[09:12] <maco> hey_boy: i didnt know there was any...
[09:12] <ratbert> indus is it top edge :D
[09:12] <APERSON> maco, to each their own :)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> hey_boy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[09:12] <maco> ActionParsnip: wrong direction
[09:12] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: he is looking for speech to text apps hey_boy
[09:12] <maco> APERSON: heh i use iptables directly
[09:12] <ganjanaut> question.  how come i can't get no graphic equalizer for my totem
[09:12] <indus> ratbert: what do you mean topedge? iptables is a full featured firewall, but its complicated
[09:12] <APERSON> I have firestarter added to my /etc/sudoers and have it set in /etc/network/if-up.d to start it whenever there is a network connection :0
[09:13] <maco> APERSON: i used to use firestarter, but i just saw some gufw screenshots and hey thats nice
[09:13] <indus> firestarter is bad i hear, unmaintained now
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> hey_boy: text to speech == espeak (one option)
[09:13] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, have u tried fluxbox?  thats the lightest i've gone
[09:13] <maco> ganjanaut: gstreamer does not support equalizers
[09:13] <ratbert> indus the default one will do just fine??
[09:13] <indus> i dont get it though, a command line tool to use another command line tool :D
[09:13] <ganjanaut> maco: blast!
[09:13] <indus> ratbert: default yea
[09:14] <ganjanaut> confound it all
[09:14] <indus> ratbert: i dont know of any other firewalls
[09:14] <indus> ratbert: in linux i mean
[09:14] <ganjanaut> i needs me a volume boost.  i needs it!
[09:14] <ratbert> thanks indus
[09:14] <ratbert> cee ya
[09:14] <APERSON> maco, holy crap!  last update in 05, upon checking SF
[09:14] <indus> ratbert: use or install gufw to control
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: yeah its real good, very good hotkey support. flwm is as light as i'v tried but it dodnt stay long
[09:14] <maco> APERSON: hehe
[09:14] <APERSON> maco, maybe I'll give ufw a try :)
[09:15] <maco> APERSON: ufw is command line. gufw for gui.
[09:15] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i think anything is fine as long as i got gnome-do
[09:15] <ganjanaut> maco: is there a system-wide one i can use?
[09:15] <APERSON> maco, yeah, thanks
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: theres fluxbuntu too ;) (unofficial release)
[09:15] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, go minimal and just have gnome-do
[09:15] <maco> ganjanaut: nope. its possible to overdrive using pulseaudio if you just need all around louder...but ive never done it
[09:15] <APERSON> ganjanaut, open up the sound prefs and move the slider past 100%
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: i go minimal and use guake
[09:15] <APERSON> q0_0p, I used to do that
[09:15] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, whats guake?
[09:16] <Guest81437> ActionParsnip: getting back to the volume thing: this only happens in ubuntu, not windows, so I know its not the hardware
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !info guake | q0_0p
[09:16] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, ah kind like yakuake
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: and tilda, yes
[09:16] <ganjanaut> APERSON: the slider doesn't go to 11
[09:16] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i use that yakuake since im on kde3.5
[09:16] <monestri> any scim users about?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: thats all i need for pretty much everything except web browsing
[09:17] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, cool
[09:17] <APERSON> ok, I'm off to image my eeepc
[09:17] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, guake looks cool
[09:17] <APERSON> I'll be back!
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: does the same thing as yakuake
[09:17] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i know
[09:18] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, yakuake never ran good on gnome
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: i found tilda a little flaky, guake feels solid
[09:19] <Anorien> hi. XFCE and Samba dont work together or something? im missing the Places-Network i had in Gnome.
[09:19] <Guest81437> ActionParsnip: getting back to the volume thing: this only happens in ubuntu, not windows, so I know its not the hardware
[09:19] <danjerous> Where can I get the key for a repository in ppa.launchpad.net?
[09:19] <Jack_> exit
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: well yeah, the volume control is a software construct
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: what error do you get?
[09:20] <tsimpson> danjerous: from the launchpad page, or use the ppa: format
[09:20] <aperson> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<nameofppa>
[09:20] <danjerous> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[09:21] <danjerous> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: gpg --armor --export 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5 | apt-key add -
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: you need that command after
[09:22] <tsimpson> ActionParsnip, danjerous: or you can use "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5"
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/05/apt-get-update-how-to-solve-no-public-key-available/   helps
[09:22] <TopGear> Mornin
[09:22] <agorist> Does anyone have Tagging working in Tomboy Notes ??
[09:22] <danjerous> ActionParsnip: Hm, thank you very much. If you can give a hint what to do if  I want to remove it from ~/.gnupg/ now ? :)
[09:23] <wubuntu> Why does my volume icon keep disappearing ?
[09:23] <wubuntu> Anyone happen to know ?
[09:23] <tsimpson> danjerous: I think "gpg --delete-key 4E5E17B5"
[09:24] <wubuntu> Or how I might be able to get it back ?
[09:24] <danjerous> tsimpson: That's it, thanks :)
[09:24] <aperson> lets see how long this image takes to do!
[09:25] <wubuntu> Anyone.. ?
[09:25] <wubuntu> losha: You there ?
[09:26] <rumpsy|jobler> hey guys
[09:27] <rumpsy|jobler> i need a simple option to be activated, all i need is when i right click i want terminal as a option to be listed
[09:28] <rumpsy|jobler> how can i achieve it.
[09:28] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[09:28] <aperson> rumpsy|jobler: sudo aptitude install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:29] <wubuntu> Can someone tell me how to restore my volume icon ?
[09:29] <rumpsy|jobler> okay, thank you
[09:29] <aperson> or use your package manager of choice
[09:30] <littlegreen> which is the lightest DE?
[09:30] <rumpsy|jobler> ubuntu is DE
[09:30] <maco> rumpsy|jobler: ubuntu is a distro
[09:30] <littlegreen> no, Gnome is DE, KDE is DE
[09:31] <q0_0p> wubuntu, u can go to terminal and type in 'gnome-' and spam the tab till u find it?
[09:31] <aperson> littlegreen: xcfe, openbox, flux, e17...
[09:31] <littlegreen> aperson thanks
[09:31] <maco> littlegreen: DE? Xfce, i think. standalone window manager? twm, maybe?
[09:31] <tsimpson> littlegreen: probably xfce, for pre-made installs anyway
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <tsimpson> !ot | jizzack
[09:31] <Madpilot> wubuntu, gnome-volume-control is what you want, I think
[09:31] <maco> if i was using a window manager alone for everything, itd be xmonad
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <FloodBot5> jizzack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <rumpsy|jobler> wacky, you try "lxde"
[09:32] <maco> !ops | jizzinmy1ants OT floods
[09:32] <Madpilot> maco, way ahead of you :)
[09:32] <Shtl> Hello all
[09:32] <maco> Madpilot: doh hehe thanks
[09:33] <serhiy> Shtl Hello
[09:33] <wubuntu> Madpilot: I got that to run
[09:33] <wubuntu> But I don't see a way to add that to the panel
[09:33] <Madpilot> wubuntu, when it started, it didn't put itself back in your notification area?
[09:34] <Shtl> serhiy: i downloaded mint-8 iso image , but its not matching checksum, its means that i have to once again download from scratch???
[09:34] <wubuntu> Madpilot: Nope
[09:34] <jussi01> !mint | Shtl
[09:34] <aperson> wubuntu: you can try restarting gnome-panel: killall gnome-panel
[09:35] <wubuntu> aperson: Still didn't reappear
[09:35] <Madpilot> wubuntu, odd. it should have put itself back in your notification area. You didn't delete the notification area by mistake? network-manager and stuff still visible?
[09:36] <wubuntu> Network manager and other stuff visible
[09:36] <Madpilot> jizzinmy1ants, want to find a more appropriate nick, please?
[09:36] <wubuntu> Madpilot: XChat's icon appears to be gone too
[09:37] <serhiy> Shtl ,sorry, but I am new in Linux
[09:37] <Madpilot> wubuntu, strange
[09:38] <ARTSIOM> Hi All!
[09:39] <aperson> which do we think would be faster?:  dd of=/dev/sda | bzip2 | ssh user@host "/path/of/backup" or dd of=/dev/sda | ssh user@host "bzip2 | /path/of/backup" ?
[09:39] <Madpilot> wubuntu, pls ask before PMing, as a general rule.
[09:40] <wubuntu> Oh, sorry
[09:40] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right???????????
[09:40] <ARTSIOM> I have added my dit to PATH to /etc/enviroment /root/.profile and /root/.bashrc. Commands from this dir are now accesible from my user, but not accessible when running under the sudo. Where I should also add a path to make available to sudo?
[09:41] <aperson> where the destination has quite a bit more cpu power, and this is regular 10/100 ethernet
[09:41] <mnemoc> hi, do you know any apt-friendly way to get thunderbird-3.0 but not the daily build?
[09:43] <wubuntu> Well, if anyone finds a solution..
[09:43] <wubuntu> Let me know
[09:44] <aperson> mnemoc: I believe you can add the mozilla team ppa
[09:44] <mnemoc> aperson: thanks, i'll search for it
[09:44] <aperson> wubuntu: my network icon sometimes fails to show, but all I do is restart my panel
[09:44] <aperson> mnemoc: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozilla-team
[09:45] <Madpilot> wubuntu, did you try "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal?
[09:45] <wubuntu> Madpilot: Yeah
[09:45] <aperson> Madpilot: yes they did
[09:45] <serhiy> who use Grdc?
[09:45] <mnemoc> aperson: oh, i didn't know that one
[09:45] <wubuntu> And it just restarted hem all
[09:45] <wubuntu> But volume didn't come back
[09:45] <aperson> mnemoc: it's really nice to have!
[09:46] <mnemoc> aperson: does it magically add the gpg key too?
[09:46] <ARTSIOM> so, does anybody know where I should add dir to PATH to make commands available to sudo?
[09:46] <aperson> mnemoc: yessir!
[09:46] <mnemoc> aperson: awesome!
[09:47] <aperson> mnemoc: works only for launchpad afaik though, and everything you add via that end up in its own entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:48] <llutz> ARTSIOM: set it for root, use sudo -H
[09:48] <aperson> anyone know that command that gives you a progress bar for operations?
[09:49] <mnemoc> pv ?
[09:49] <madel> hi all, I'm using gcc-4.4.2 to compile a code using option -O3 -fopenmp, when running the compiled program I receive this error "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found"
[09:49] <madel> any help?
[09:50] <aperson> mnemoc: thanks! that was it
[09:50] <mnemoc> aperson: yw :)
[09:51] <serhiy> hey, who use Rdesktop with mapping local printer by RDP to WIN server?
[09:51] <ARTSIOM> llutz: yes, but I have already added PATH=$PATH:/mydir to /root/.profile and /root/.bashrc, but commands from /mydir are still not accesible when I run them under sudo
[09:52] <llutz> ARTSIOM: used sudo -H?
[09:54] <ARTSIOM> llutz: should I set the HOME every time? is it possible to add PATH persitanly?
[09:54] <llutz> ARTSIOM: if not, users env is used
[09:55] <ARTSIOM> llutz: but I has also added the same dir to PATH in /etc/environment and commands are available to my user
[09:55] <q0_0p> is it possible to put a print server on the dmz?
[09:55] <wubuntu> Relogging fixed the problem
[09:55] <q0_0p> just wondering
[09:55] <wubuntu> But I don't understand what's happening
[09:56] <llutz> ARTSIOM: maybe config-issue in sudoers-file then. read "man sudoers", theres some options to handle env/pathes
[09:58] <Rioting_Pacifist> how stable is btrfs? will it definatly get corupted on a crash or just maybe?
[09:59] <Madkiss> Rioting_Pacifist: it will maybe definetely get corrupted.
[10:00] <Rioting_Pacifist> which will be faster for / (i.e i don't care about corruption just speed)
[10:00] <serhiy> q0_0p: hello
[10:01] <Rioting_Pacifist> i'd guess btrfs over ext4 but i'm not sure
[10:01] <q0_0p> serhiy, hi
[10:01] <q0_0p> serhiy, do i know u
[10:01] <khelvan_a> Hello, what is the proper way to uninstall a .deb package that I installed via sudo dpkg -i?
[10:02] <serhiy> q0_0p ,do not know me
[10:02] <MenZa> khelvan_a: sudo dpkg -r <package>
[10:03] <serhiy> q0_0p , u use rdesktom maybe?
[10:03] <neekers_> for a server on the internet, what version of ubuntu is best to install as far as long term updates and support?
[10:03] <q0_0p> serhiy, i think so
[10:04] <MenZa> neekers_: I'd recommend 8.04, and update it to 10.04 when that's released in April.
[10:04] <serhiy> q0_0p and use CLI or GUI for it?
[10:05] <MenZa> neekers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline <- an excellent chart showing the support of the different releases.
[10:05] <neekers> MenZa: thanks
[10:05] <q0_0p> serhiy, both
[10:05] <MenZa> neekers: Welcome.
[10:06] <serhiy> q0_0p i seek mapping local printer for RDP to Win server
[10:06] <khelvan_a> MenZa, thank you
[10:07] <neekers> i think i'm about to make the big switch from linode to slicehost. i dont like that fact linode doesnt have nightly backups
[10:07] <keio> I have installed java vis synpatic package manager.  How do I get the actual path to java so I can set java_home?
[10:07] <serhiy> q0_0p rdesktop have switch for it, but for users its need in GUI
[10:07] <MenZa> neekers: let's keep this for support - #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics :)
[10:07] <Kartagis> how can I upgrade only one package?
[10:08] <neekers> kk
[10:08] <MenZa> Kartagis: sudo apt-get install <package>, I believe will upgrade that particular package.
[10:08] <serhiy> q0_0p , where u from?
[10:08] <aperson> Kartagis: sudo aptitude install packagename
[10:08] <q0_0p> serhiy, far away
[10:08] <Kartagis> right
[10:08] <aperson> Kartagis: or use whatever package manager you like
[10:08] <Kartagis> thanks
[10:09] <keio> anyone know how I can set $JAVA_HOME?  I can't seem to find java bin.  My eclipse ide is crashing.
[10:09] <adac> ImportError: No module named pydcop Does anyone know which packet does include this python module in karmic?
[10:10] <serhiy> q0_0p  in which the radius from me )
[10:10] <aperson> adac: aptitudes search pydcop turn up anything?
[10:10] <adac> aperson, nothing unfortunatley
[10:10] <q0_0p> serhiy, not sure
[10:11] <MenZa> !find pydcop
[10:11] <MenZa> !find py-dcop
[10:11] <MenZa> hm
[10:11] <adac> !find dcop
[10:11] <serhiy> q0_0p ok man )
[10:11] <q0_0p> MenZa, u can do sudo apt-cache search ur_pkg??
[10:14] <serhiy> flotix__ : hello
[10:15] <guntbert> !ot | serhiy
[10:16] <P_Kable> Is there a tool to get the load charge of a server included in the distro ?
[10:17] <jpds> P_Kable: Load charge?
[10:18] <P_Kable> how can I explain jpds ... to see how used is the CPU, RAM disk ...
[10:18] <jpds> P_Kable: uptime?
[10:19] <q0_0p> P_Kable, htop?
[10:19] <q0_0p> P_Kable, top?
[10:19] <ccooke> P_Kable: well, each of those are easily measured individually. 'top' is a good general tool for CPU and RAM
[10:19] <mnemoc> htop is nicer :p
[10:19] <jpds> ccooke: free -m - will show you RAM.
[10:19] <q0_0p> agreed
[10:19] <jpds> P_Kable: ^
[10:20] <ccooke> P_Kable: System -> Administration -> System Monitor - a graphical tool you might find useful.
[10:20] <ccooke> It's much like the system monitor on Windows,so if you're from that background it will be at least familiar
[10:21] <mnemoc> funny term "load charge"
[10:21] <lyhana8> hi, my mysql-server-5.1 fail to start on ubuntu : http://pastebin.com/d36d3c136
[10:21] <ccooke> jpds: yeah, but I wouldn't generally recommend it to someone who doesn't already know of it.
[10:21] <lyhana8> my cat /var/log/mysql.* are empty where should I look for log ?
[10:21] <q0_0p> !find gnome-system-monitor | P_Kable
[10:21] <lorenzosu> I just re-installed ubuntu 9.10 fresh but I get a grub error 17 at boot
[10:21] <jpds> q0_0p: On a server he said. :)
[10:21] <q0_0p> oh
[10:22] <q0_0p> he might as well use htop or top then
[10:22] <mnemoc> some people adds X and fat DEs to servers...
[10:22] <q0_0p> and ssh into it
[10:22] <jpds> mnemoc: The ones who are doing it wrong.
[10:23] <mnemoc> fully agree :)
[10:23] <khelvan_a> Hi, I'm trying to use dpkg -r to remove a .deb that I installed, but it is telling me that the package hasn't been installed. Are there individual packages inside of one .deb, and if so, is there a way to list them?
[10:23] <ccooke> it's perfectly reasonable to have X libs on a server, as long as there's no X server...
[10:23] <ccooke> Too many third party apps need an X configuration tool, so it's nice to be able to run them over ssh -X
[10:23] <ccooke> (well, usually ssh -CX)
[10:23] <jpds> khelvan_a: Try: dpkg -r <packagename>
[10:24] <q0_0p> thats what i did when i didn't want to manually setup samba
[10:24] <mnemoc> no comment :p
[10:24] <khelvan_a> jpds - I get this: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[10:24] <q0_0p> i agree with u
[10:25] <wubuntu> What's a good package for installing new themes for windows ?
[10:25] <wubuntu> Like themes in Appearance Preferences
[10:25] <lorenzosu> I just re-installed ubuntu 9.10 fresh but I get a grub error 17 at boot
[10:25] <maco> khelvan_a: so dont do the whole .deb, just the bit before _
[10:26] <jpds> khelvan_a: Not the file name of the .deb, just the package name like "ubuntu-desktop"
[10:26] <serhiy_> lorenzosu, use liveCD and edit Grubmenu
[10:26] <khelvan_a> maco, jpds - thanks, I got this: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nxclient, only the config files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too. That's weird since I just installed it today.
[10:27] <maco> khelvan_a: it means you already uninstalled it but did not purge it
[10:27] <lorenzosu> serhiy_: I can't find menu.lst
[10:27] <wubuntu> Oh, GNOME Art
[10:27] <maco> its /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:28] <serhiy_> /boot/grub
[10:29] <guntbert> !grub2 | lorenzosu
[10:29] <serhiy_> lorenzosu lorenzosu
[10:29] <serhiy_> lorenzosu  /boot/grub
[10:29] <FunkyWeasel> I've noticed that when I have closed firefox lately I have to kill the process before I restart.  Is this normal, or the result of a recent update?
[10:29] <maco> FunkyWeasel: it might just take a while for FF to shut down
[10:29] <maco> like 20 seconds or so
[10:30] <q0_0p> maco, sudo killall firefox
[10:30] <FunkyWeasel> maco: It's been a few minutes.  killing the process works... but I shouldn't have to do that everytime, right?
[10:30] <lorenzosu> serhiy_: Everything seems fine in the cfg file
[10:31] <serhiy_> lorenzosu maybe some disk not mounted?
[10:32] <pdragon_> hi i am having a problem with a broken package i used the apt-get install -f to try to fix it but it now work
[10:32] <lorenzosu> serhiy_: At boot?
[10:33] <jozefk> what is the way for starting daemons automatically in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <serhiy_> lorenzosu not shure
[10:33] <peleczek> loenzosu join #grub they help there with grub2 a lot
[10:33] <pdragon_> any one ?
[10:33] <serhiy_> test msg
[10:33] <jozefk> where are the sshd, httpd and other stuff lokated in ubuntu?
[10:34] <peleczek> also it's good to burn super grub disk on cd
[10:34] <jozefk> located* :)
[10:34]  * jozefk likes super grub disk as well
[10:34] <q0_0p> jozefk, i dont remember maybe /etc ? config files?
[10:34] <ardens> Who knows the shortest way to send AT+ commands to modem?
[10:34] <ardens> Who knows the shortest way to send AT+ commands to modem?
[10:34] <llutz>   ardens echo
[10:35] <jozefk> maybe etc? then how to start them automatically?
[10:35] <pdragon_> what kind of modem dsl cable or dial up or t1 ?
[10:35] <ardens> Hello, by the way
[10:35] <ardens> 3g modem
[10:35] <pdragon_> you mean the 3g modem from att cell comapny
[10:36] <jozefk> in some other distros they are inside /etc/rc.d/
[10:36] <ardens> nope, I mean 3g modem for ZTE. And all such hardware supports standard AT+ commands
[10:36] <adac> anyone familiar with truecrypt and mounting hidden volumes on command line?
[10:36] <erUSUL> jozefk: for example --> sudo update-rc.d sshd defaults
[10:36] <pdragon_> well you could use a script to run at boot  to do it
[10:36] <erUSUL> jozefk: is in /etc/init.d/
[10:36] <jozefk> and there is /etc/rc.di can't do it manually with vim?
[10:36] <serhiy_> lorenzosuu in CLI mode now?
[10:36] <pdragon_> hi i am having a problem with a broken package i used the apt-get install -f to try to fix it but it now work
[10:37] <jozefk> init.d ok thanks. that's what I needed. what is the config file for init.d?
[10:37] <erUSUL> !runlevels | jozefk
[10:37] <erUSUL> jozefk: all this stuff is changing in ubuntu. many things are still sysV though.
[10:38] <pdragon_> dose anyone know how to fix broken packages
[10:38] <erUSUL> jozefk: but there is no single file to edit. you have to use update-rc.d or rcconf or bum
[10:38] <maco> pdragon_: sudo apt-get install -f
[10:38] <pdragon_> already tried that
[10:38] <maco> pdragon_: sudo apt-get update, followed by that?
[10:38] <Dreamglider> i just did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 to clear/zero out an old hard disk, is there a way to see at what speed it's writing to the device (And possible the progress ?)
[10:38] <edmunds> hi everyone! can u help me understand why - ubuntu 9.10 installed on notebook, after restart some times do not allow to access meny, panels
[10:38] <jozefk> upstart system v inittab .. don't know any of that. i just want to start sshd and httpd and cron daemons during boot of system
[10:39] <erUSUL> jozefk: or make the various smlinks in /etc/rcn.d/ directories by hand
[10:39] <jozefk> that's all and so simple
[10:39] <jozefk> but with ubuntu it's not simple
[10:39] <jozefk> i see.
[10:40] <jozefk> i was hopping maybe they will start by themselves after installation :) but not sure if that was the case
[10:40] <maco> jozefk: i think they do
[10:40] <jozefk> all of them? cron, sshd, httpd?
[10:41] <jozefk> and they start after each reboot right?
[10:41] <erUSUL> jozefk: well update-rc.d is simple enough
[10:41] <maco> jozefk: yes, they should by default be configured to auto-start
[10:41] <maco> erUSUL: if its simple enough, why does its manpage say its not for humans to use?
[10:41] <Airwulf2k> hey
[10:41] <jozefk> update-rc.d is it a file? can i edit that in vim?
[10:42] <maco> jozefk: no, its a command thats supposed to be used by maintainer scripts and not by humans
[10:42] <Airwulf2k> can I disable shortcuts like ALT+F7 (move window) on ubuntu?
[10:42] <erUSUL> jozefk: as i said earlier to enable sshd --> sudo update-rc.d sshd defaults
[10:42] <Spixx> when talking about pam_ldap.conf is there a way so that it will work to login remotly without acc use the password in the config?
[10:42] <jongbergs> !info bum
[10:42] <erUSUL> jozefk: to disable it sudo update-rc.d -f sshd remove
[10:42] <maco> !pm | pdragon_
[10:43] <jozefk> erUSUL, then I can do #sudo update-rc.d httpd defaults as well right?
[10:43] <linny> once one had an encrypted /home folder is it possible to undo that option after install time ?
[10:43] <bu> wireless card refuses to associate with the router its 3945abg iwl3945, same problem with ndiswrapper, network manager, wicd and through terminal it refuses to communicate with the routher but i still can view available networks and it even prompts me for a password.. when i remove router password it doesnt connect still.. network manager keeps connecting forever with no results and wicd says Could not contact the wireless access point. any suggestions..  tried bac
[10:43] <pdragon_> here is what the apt-get -f install tells me http://pastebin.com/d7e2598d0
[10:43] <lorenzosu> I don't understand why the installer failed though
[10:43] <erUSUL> maco: i'm sure jozefk is open to other suggestions.
[10:43] <zebastian> is there a chronometer program for ubuntu?
[10:43] <q0_0p> jozefk, chkconfig --list
[10:43] <maco> yep chkconfig is dandy
[10:43] <jozefk> erUSUL, how can I see the list of all daemons which i have in autostart?
[10:43] <bu> wireless card refuses to associate with the router its 3945abg iwl3945, same problem with ndiswrapper, network manager, wicd and through terminal it refuses to communicate with the routher but i still can view available networks and it even prompts me for a password.. when i remove router password it doesnt connect still.. network manager keeps connecting forever with no results and wicd says Could not contact the wireless access point. any suggestions..  tried bac
[10:43] <aperson> maco, gufw looks really sparse
[10:43] <maco> though unfortunately not installed by default, i dont think
[10:44] <pdragon_> it is called synergy so i can use one pc to control the others mouse and keyboard
[10:44] <moDumass> evening all
[10:44] <aperson> pdragon_, synergy+ > synergy :)
[10:44] <lorenzosu> And no grub installed :(
[10:44] <pdragon_> synergy+
[10:44] <moDumass> um, im not dloading anything but i keep getting this "you root dir has 0bites free" message\
[10:45] <moDumass> im trying to clear space, but i dont seem to be able
[10:45] <moDumass> assistance wouod be awesome
[10:45] <moDumass> i think im googling wrong
[10:45] <erUSUL> jozefk: this --> sudo service --status-all
[10:45] <lorenzosu> So no one experienced grub 17 error after installing ubuntu 9.10 fresh?
[10:45] <kekale> moDumass, have you done sudo apt-get clean ?
[10:45] <moDumass> kekale, i have
[10:46] <pdragon_> nope i did not installing it on my acer mini
[10:46] <aperson> moDumass, well, do you have your root dir on a separate partition?
[10:46] <aperson> moDumass, it could genuinely be out of space
[10:46] <LuciusMare> what is wrong with this sudoers line? : remote = NOPASSWD: /bin/shutdown
[10:46] <moDumass> aperson, when i updated from 9.04 to 9.10 it blew out and i somehow created a new partition
[10:46] <erUSUL> moDumass: how big is your root partition ?
[10:46] <guntbert> moDumass: !pastebin the output of df -h and of mount please
[10:46] <moDumass> ok
[10:46] <jozefk> ok thanks erUSUL
[10:47] <pdragon_> dose anyone know how i can fix my problem
[10:47] <jozefk> now I see why some other people likes to use some other distros. there is still a big difference
[10:47] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: lloks like it lacks the hostname part
[10:47] <LuciusMare> hello?
[10:47] <Administrator123> l
[10:47] <LuciusMare> ah
[10:47] <jozefk> even though most of them looks the same from "outside: :)
[10:47] <LuciusMare> erUSUL: where?
[10:47] <jozefk> "outside"
[10:47] <jpds> LuciusMare: Do: "which shutdown" in a terminal.
[10:47] <aperson> pdragon_, what did you do exactly?
[10:47] <llutz> LuciusMare: read "man sudoers"
[10:47] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: remote ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/shutdown  ??
[10:48] <jpds> erUSUL: sbin.
[10:48] <LuciusMare> ah,but that was a minor problem
[10:48] <aperson> pdragon_, I broke my synergy package when I installed synergy+, but I just removed synergy and all was well
[10:48] <erUSUL> jpds: yep that too ;)
[10:48] <moDumass> http://www.pastebin.org/59130
[10:48] <LuciusMare> ALL = NOPASSWD: will let the user remote run only the commands i specify without password,right?
[10:48] <pdragon_> well i installed the .deb from the web site then i made the mistake of installing it from the  ubuntu software center
[10:48] <moDumass> guntbert :http://www.pastebin.org/59130
[10:49] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: as per sudo docs yes
[10:49] <aperson> pdragon_, just uninstall it
[10:49] <pdragon_> i tried
[10:49] <pdragon_> no luck
[10:49] <Administrator123> hi
[10:49] <maxstirner> i get a crash when booting, system stops at "Loading cpufreq kernel modules..." Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[10:49] <LuciusMare> manual pages confused me:  ray    rushmore = NOPASSWD: /bin/kill, /bin/ls, /usr/bin/lprm
[10:49] <aperson> pdragon_, sudo aptitude purge synergy?
[10:50] <Nige> hello, anyone have dvdbackup and libdvdread4 working correctly?
[10:50] <guntbert> moDumass: your / is clearly maxed out - what about mount?
[10:50] <aperson> !dvd | Nige
[10:50] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59133
[10:51] <aperson> pdragon_, that question mark is part of the command, mind you
[10:51] <moDumass> guntbert, whats confusing me is that if im not in home, it says hteres like 40gigs free
[10:51] <pdragon_> that is what it is asking to remove
[10:52] <LuciusMare> sudo rm -r /usr/compiled myepicpasswd
[10:52] <LuciusMare> HOLY...
[10:52] <moDumass> was copying and pasting sorry
[10:52] <LuciusMare> er,wrong terminal just forget it
[10:52] <Nige> I tried k9copy but it crashes the moment the dvd drive spinds up
[10:52] <Nige> weird...
[10:53] <pdragon_> aperson thanks its fix now
[10:54] <pdragon_> i totaly forgot about that command lol
[10:54] <guntbert> moDumass: ignore that for the moment - pastebin the output of sudo du -sh /* please (it will take some time to complete)
[10:55] <ranjan> can any body help me in showing an sutable way that i can be able to make an back up of apt along with making all the list of software that i have downloded which are being kept in /var/cache/apt folder i know there is an tool known as apt on tool that can do my work in much easier was .... i dont want to use any cd for this work so is there any solution for this ... please help ....;)
[10:55] <friendishan> how do i upgrade to 9.10 using a CD?
[10:55] <friendishan> i am currently using 9.04 and i want to upgrade and i have recieved the CD (my net is too slow)
[10:56] <MasterOfDisaster> ranjan: dpkg --get-selections?
[10:56] <friendishan> anyone any help?
[10:56] <friendishan> epinky
[10:56] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : i am not geting you
[10:57] <bazhang> friendishan, you need the alternate cd to do that
[10:57] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks for your help btw. still learning, googling these commands as we go  -
[10:57] <MasterOfDisaster> ranjan: you want a list of all installed software?
[10:57] <friendishan> bazhang : recieved the CD which canonical sends free.
[10:57] <maxstirner> i get a crash when booting, system stops at "Loading cpufreq kernel modules..." Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[10:57] <smb96> friendishan, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[10:57] <guntbert> moDumass: thats quite allright with me :-)
[10:57] <bazhang> friendishan, is that the live cd or the alternate cd
[10:58] <friendishan> bazhang : i donno , maybe the live CD
[10:58] <friendishan> bazhang: how can i get the alternate cd?
[10:58] <bazhang> friendishan, you want to fresh install? do you have a separate home partition
[10:59] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : no i wan to make the downloded software avilable in pen drive and i want to use it on other system  without using any extra cd/ apt on tool
[10:59] <friendishan> bazhang : nope i don want to fresh install, it'll be a big mistake for me!
[10:59] <smb96> friendishan, just read the link
[10:59] <ayes86> oo
[10:59] <friendishan> smb96 : read (i ahev damn too slow net)
[11:00] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59142
[11:00] <Nige> cheers, seems to have fixed my dvdbackup problem as well
[11:00] <friendishan> smb96: u can't expect me to download it using a 15kb/ps download speed connection
[11:00] <linny> upon install i selected to encrypt my /home dir is it possible to reverse this without a reinstall ?
[11:00] <smb96> read further
[11:01] <epinky> friendishan: you'll need the ALTERNATE CD installer
[11:01] <friendishan> epinky: so i have to download it?
[11:01] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : no i wan to make the downloded software avilable in pen drive and i want to use it on other system  without using any extra cd/ apt on tool
[11:01] <guntbert> moDumass: you shouldn't have interrupted it, the interesting part ist still missing, please repeat
[11:01] <maco> linny: if you backup all your data from your home then delete your home directory and make a new one then move everything onto the new not-encrypted one...i think that should work
[11:01] <epinky> friendishan: yes, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[11:01] <LuciusMare> how to make sudo forget the password?
[11:01] <moDumass> guntbert, sorry didnt realise i interupted it, on it again
[11:01] <friendishan> epinky: never mind then i have a slow download speed!
[11:02] <maco> LuciusMare: sudo -k
[11:02] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : do you have any idea
[11:02] <LuciusMare> i mean,i typed the pass in before a while and now i dont want it to use it
[11:02] <LuciusMare> thanks
[11:02] <archangelpetro> is it just me, or is evolution really buggy?
[11:02] <guntbert> moDumass: you pressed ctrl+c :-)
[11:02] <aperson> archangelpetro, you and the whole internet
[11:02] <archangelpetro> aperson: thank you
[11:02] <epinky> friendishan: then do a fresh install :) , upgrade could be done using Alternate CD or network
[11:03] <aperson> archangelpetro, it's a shame ubuntu depends on it
[11:03] <moDumass> guntbert, yeh but only after it showed me the prompt, but its moved furhter this time, so I may have interupted it whilst copying stuff to google
[11:03] <friendishan> epinky : ok i will ask my friend to download the alternate CD, Thanks^^
[11:03] <friendishan> epinky: bye
[11:04] <LuciusMare> agh,it does not work
[11:04] <guntbert> moDumass: copying in the terminal is done with shift+ctrl+c
[11:04] <LuciusMare> remote ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown - still asks for password
[11:04] <aperson> guntbert, don't forget shift+insert
[11:05] <guntbert> aperson: you mean shift+ctrl+v ?
[11:05] <LuciusMare> guntbert: i am pretty sure he ment shift+insert
[11:05] <darkipod> heloo
[11:05] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks, learning new stuff everyday. mostly when i break stuff though
[11:06] <guntbert> moDumass: thats the way to live :)
[11:07] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, any ideas?
[11:07] <darkipod> need help ..... with >>> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:08] <MikeChelen> darkipod: what is /dev/sr0?
[11:08] <darkipod> i can't use my CDrom
[11:08] <aperson> guntbert, shift+insert pastes anywhere, so does shift+ctrl+v
[11:08] <darkipod> thats the error i get
[11:08] <MikeChelen> darkipod: is that an external drive or something?
[11:09] <guntbert> aperson: I forgot :)
[11:09] <darkipod> no burner
[11:09] <epinky> darkipod: post results of "sudo lshw -C disk" ,  use pastebin
[11:09] <darkipod> i was working
[11:09] <LuciusMare> remote ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown - still asks for password - anyone?
[11:09] <darkipod> but i did something
[11:09] <maxstirner> my karmic suddenly fails to boot after "Apparmor profiles", any ideas?
[11:10] <MikeChelen> darkipod: is it sata? my ide cd burner shows up as something like /dev/scd0
[11:10] <darkipod> paste all that in the room?
[11:10] <MikeChelen> !pastebin
[11:11] <aomegax> hi
[11:12] <darkipod> Karmic can see the drive it just can't mount them without me me using the terminal
[11:12] <aomegax> does anybody know how to write uuid on partition?
[11:12] <MrNaz> how do you reinstall grub after reinstalling windows? the instructions for versions prior to karmic dont seem to work
[11:12] <peleczek> MrNaz i recommend super grub disk
[11:13] <MrNaz> peleczek url ?
[11:13] <aomegax> my problem is that at boot my uuid of root partition isn't recognized, so my distro doesn't stard
[11:13] <peleczek> saves nerves
[11:13] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59146
[11:13] <MrNaz> nvm
[11:13] <aomegax> *t
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:14] <eugene_> hi guys how do i run a tar.gz file?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[11:14] <l43a2> lol
[11:14] <peleczek> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: you don't run it, its a compressed archive
[11:14] <eugene_> ok. lemme try it
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: whats the file for?
[11:15] <Fizix> Does anyone know I can use Terminal Server Client to access an RDP host over the internet rather than being confined to just the local network?
[11:15] <guitar-maniac> hello! my add or remowe applications has disappeared :O i tried right clickin on applications and edit, but i cant click it as active...
[11:15] <eugene_> there's a software in there and i need to install it
[11:15] <erUSUL> eugene_: a tar.gz is a zip file. what do you mean by run? you can extract (deflate) it
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: you would need to configure port forwarding on the external router on the the other network
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: is it not in the repositorys?
[11:15] <tlvb> Fizix: sounds like you need to set up port forwading
[11:16] <erUSUL> eugene_: what software? are you sure it is not in the repos ?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: The router will then forward the connection to the system to define in the forwarding rule
[11:16] <eugene_> no. its not in the repository
[11:16] <guntbert> moDumass: so you used 79GB in /home - you can employ the same idea stepping down and always looking for the biggest folder till you find the culprit - the netxt step would be du -sh /home/*
[11:16] <guntbert> *next
[11:16] <darkipod>  is there any way to reinstall the CDROM so that Karmic can make a new  /etc/fstab
[11:17] <moDumass> guntbert, yjamls
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: i can send you mine if you like, the UUIDs will be different but otherwise will be the same
[11:17] <Fizix> ActionParsnip & tlvb, thank you! Now I'm off to Google how to setup port forwarding on XP.
[11:17] <guntbert> moDumass: ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: its not on xp
[11:18] <darkipod> ok
[11:18] <eugene_> ActionParsnip: it has extracted the file but how do i run it
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: the port forwarding is done on the router
[11:18] <Fizix> Oh, the CLIENT side needs port fowarding?
[11:18] <littlegreen> ActionParsnip not if the subnet is routed by a windows machine
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: there is no single answer to that, you will have to read the files in the files you extracted
[11:18] <littlegreen> or it's just a simple i-net connection sharing
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> littlegreen: was getting there ;)
[11:19] <littlegreen> :)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: unless the external facing system is an XP system you will needto read the manual for the router
[11:19] <Fizix> Neither I (client-side) nor the XP machine I'm trying to RDP into (host-side) has a router.
[11:19] <tlvb> Fizix: unless you are using your XP computer as the router, you should search in your router docs
[11:19] <tlvb> bah too late heh
[11:19] <littlegreen> Fizix so the remote machine, running winXP has a real IP address?
[11:19] <tlvb> the bad side of using a keyboard layout I'm not accustomed to...
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: if its an XP system connected directly to the web then no forwarding is needed
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: as in with no router
[11:21] <Fizix> The XP box is using a Verizon DSL modem. I when on a site to grab the IP address and whois info from it as the 'ipconfig' command only gave me a local-style IP address, 192.168....
[11:21] <eugene_> ActionParsnip: thanx man. i got it
[11:21] <Fizix> *went
[11:21] <paulie> whats the name of the kubuntu bling installer background wallpaper (the blue one with the circles) ?
[11:21] <littlegreen> Fizix and the remote side doesn't have access to the router's control panel? If not I suggest you setup a VPN
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: then simply connect to its IP address (you can findout the IP with http://www.ipchicken.com) and connect to it, you will need to enable remote logon and XP Home doesn't have this feature, only pro does
[11:22] <hareldvd> How can I configure gvfs mount point?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: you will need to ask in ##wndows how to enable the remote logon. When you connect it will lock the local display
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> paulie: i'd ask in #kubuntu
[11:23] <Fizix> ActionParsnip, yea I enabled Remote Desktoping on XP Pro, allowed the exception on the firewall, etc. That's fine. It just seems like the Terminal Server Client cannot resolve the connection
[11:23] <paulie> ActionParsnip: i asked but no one knows
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: are you connecting to the IP, it will be something like <IP_ADDRESS> or somesuch
[11:23] <Fizix> Littlegreen, I actually was thinking that a little earlier, I'm just trying to make a little less work for myself right though
[11:24] <guitar-maniac> how can i give administ right to a user though terminal?
[11:24] <littlegreen> guitar-maniac sudo -i
[11:24] <Fizix> Yea, the IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>  You can whois it now and see it's the Verizon connection I'm talking about
[11:24] <guitar-maniac> littlegreen: thanks
[11:24] <erUSUL> guitar-maniac: sudo adduser $USERNAME admin
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> guitar-maniac: sudo useradd -G admin username       (for an existing user)
[11:25] <epinky> paulie: this one? http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/screenshots/plasma-other-widgets_thumb.png
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> guitar-maniac@guitar-maniac-desktop:~$ sudo adduser -G admin guitar_maniac
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> [sudo] password for guitar-maniac:
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> guitar-maniac is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:26] <Fizix> I do just enter the IP address in the 'Computer' field of the Terminal Server Client, no?
[11:26] <paulie> epinky: nope, thats the default Air theme wallpaper
[11:26] <littlegreen> guitar-maniac you should sudo -i first...
[11:26] <n16h7f0x> i want to reinstall kernel packages using apt how do i do that
[11:26] <epinky> paulie: ok, sry I'm not a theme expert :D
[11:26] <paulie> np
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> didnt work... i mssed up yesterday and took the rights away from myself.. :D
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> i did, it said the same thing. that im not in the sudoers file.
[11:27] <MikeChelen> guitar-maniac: use the recovery option at boot to login as root
[11:27] <dadis420> I get the problem "unable to enumerate usb device on port 8" can someone help me. I can't even boot ubuntu
[11:27] <guitar-maniac> MikeChelen: ok, i will try that now!
[11:27] <guntbert> guitar-maniac: then you will have to boot into recovery/root or run a live CD
[11:27] <erUSUL> guitar-maniac: you have to do it from recovery mode
[11:27] <brijith> haiii
[11:27] <Fizix> dadis420, are you installing Ubuntu to a USB-connected external hard drive or something?
[11:28] <guntbert> !hi | brijith
[11:28] <dadis420> Fizix no and there isn't even anything plugged into usb
[11:28] <n16h7f0x> i want to reinstall kernel packages using apt-get how do i do that
[11:28] <boomernang> When I copy cd's with Brasero Disc burner and K3b - Does any data go into /tmp? Im thinking of partitioning my disc and not sure what size to make /tmp
[11:28] <freaky[t]> n16h7f0x, apt-get install --reinstall <package> i think
[11:29] <aperson> boomernang, yes
[11:29] <aperson> boomernang, how much ram do you have?  You can always put that in ram if you have some to spare :)
[11:29] <boomernang> aperson, 4gig (64bit)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> n16h7f0x: do you mean reinstall the current kernel and its packages?
[11:30] <dadis420> boomerang: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/disk-partitioning.html
[11:30] <n16h7f0x> ActionParsnip, yes that's right
[11:30] <aperson> boomernang, same here
[11:30] <guntbert> !tab | dadis420
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> n16h7f0x: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-`uname -r`      will reinstall the current kernel
[11:31] <n16h7f0x> thank you very much
[11:31] <boomernang> aperson,.. yeah :) so im thinking, i have to give /tmp a nice figure don't i?
[11:31] <freaky[t]> !bored
[11:31] <boomernang> especially for dvd burning
[11:32] <dadis420> guntbert ah thanks
[11:32] <aperson> boomernang, worse comes to worse, it goes into swap
[11:32] <guntbert> dadis420: you're welcome :-)
[11:32] <dadis420> I get the problem "unable to enumerate usb device on port 8" can someone help me. I can't even boot ubuntu
[11:32] <dadis420> This problem is preventing me from using my computer :(
[11:32] <aperson> boomernang, though I don't really see the reasoning to have a separate /tmp partition
[11:34] <freaky[t]> lala
[11:34] <freaky[t]> :D
[11:35] <boomernang> aperson, well the problem is.. I really want to give / like 1gig
[11:35] <Dreamglider> i just did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 to clear/zero out an old hard disk, is there a way to see at what speed it's writing to the device (And/or possible the progress ?)
[11:35] <boomernang> aperson, less even
[11:35] <testi> I installed xrdp, when i logged in to it, it started KDE, but I want to start gnome - I uninstalled KDE and now it has problems (it's not describing what problem, just saying that there are problems) - I guess there must be at some point configured that it should start gnome, where?
[11:37] <hid3nax> Could anyone please help me to set up a multicast router on Ubuntu? I've just installed `smcroute' but don't know what to do next...
[11:38] <aperson> boomernang, you'd have to be manually specifying lots of partitions then!
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: dd doesnt ave that, it just works and you see nothing
[11:40] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip: Ok, but is there any way to see the current transfer speed of a USB device(Like the network monitor) since the harddisk is connected via a USB to SATA/PATA bridge ?
[11:40] <Dreamglider> something like bmon only for USB ports instead
[11:41] <kalengow> net
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: not sure, never really interested really. Lets see what jeeves tells us
[11:41] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: iotop ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: you could use: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/disk_name
[11:41] <boomernang> aperson, yes! ive got the hang of it,(/boot, /, /var, /var/log, /usr, /home, /tmp, swap) pretty much all i need.  just have no idea what is suitable for /tmp with a computer that has a smallish uptime. (never longer than 1 week)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: but the disk is very busy with the dd so figures will not be representative
[11:42] <darkipod> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[11:42] <darkipod> [mntent]: line 14 in /etc/fstab is bad
[11:42] <darkipod> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: can you provide a pastebin of the /etc/fstab file please
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: as well as one of the output of: sudo lshw -C disk
[11:43] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks, im clearing crap up/ I also have a 13 gig partition, or mount sitting on my desktiop, and i dont know what its for
[11:44] <moDumass> it serves no purpowse that i know of. it was created on the last update
[11:44] <boomernang> aperson, you think 5 gig will be plenty for /tmp?
[11:45] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: thanks that works fine :)
[11:45] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip: thanks as well.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: np bro
[11:45] <DrRobinTosh> RSS = Read some stories
[11:45] <guntbert> moDumass: if its only a link (as I suppose) it doesn't take up any space, I get one for any USB disk I plug
[11:46] <moDumass> guntbert, hmm, i get the feeling its a new partition
[11:46] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: no problem
[11:46] <Michiduta> is there a way to easily switch from gnash to proprietary flash and vice versa just to view some flash content not supported by gnash?
[11:47] <darkipod> sent it to u
[11:47] <guntbert> moDumass: I suggest that you first clear your "crap" and the you pastebin the output of ls -l ~/Desktop
[11:48] <Dreamglider> it's writing 4.5Mb/s on average, so writing 80Gb will take about hmmm 5 hours
[11:48] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks, yeh there was a user created for a friend and its full of well, crap, user has been trashed, space is clear
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: not got, can you paste the links in here
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: go have a sleep, or go to the pub
[11:49] <aperson> boomernang, sure
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: usb sucks at prolonged copies
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: its unbuffered and bursty
[11:49] <antares> there's some program to cripting files or folders in ubuntu?
[11:50] <Michiduta> sorry for double posting but it's important to me so here goes : is there a way to easily switch from gnash to proprietary flash and vice versa just to view some flash content not supported by gnash?
[11:50] <Dreamglider> true but i dont have a stationary pc here so usb to ata will have to do
[11:50] <boomernang> aperson, ok thanks
[11:50] <aperson> anajo, enrypt2fs afaik
[11:50] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59151 - im guessing now that it is a link
[11:51] <aperson> anajo, nevermind
[11:51] <dadis420> I get the problem "unable to enumerate usb device on port 8" can someone help me. I can't even boot ubuntu
[11:51] <moDumass> guntbert, but is it a new partition/mount thats just sitting there using space
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: firewire is a much better option
[11:52] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip:  i have never used firewire
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: its got intelligence built into the sender and reciever so the transmission is smooth and not full of empty spaces like usb has
[11:52] <guntbert> moDumass: no, there are no links I have a look at your mounts - brb
[11:53] <moDumass> guntbert, what am i /we lookin for?
[11:53] <darkipod> http://pastebin.com/m698fbc7b >>>>>>for the  fstab
[11:54] <BleSS> by default, when you're looking a video it's downloaded to /tmp, is possible that been downloaded to another dir.? since that I want to change /tmp to shm
[11:55] <guntbert> moDumass: something with ~12 GB in the output of mount - I guess its the nvidia thing
[11:55]  * bleah restart
[11:55] <moDumass> guntbert indeed, not really sure what its for though
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: you can make you life a LOT easier with: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo lshw -C disk | pastebinit
[11:56] <darkipod> lshw -c disk=>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/m1b638dc5
[11:56] <guntbert> moDumass: so just unmount it for once: sudo umount /dev/mapper/nvidia<tab>
[11:57] <moDumass> guntbert,  its unmounted
[11:57] <Fizix> Why do some channels have double-pound signs?
[11:58] <guntbert> moDumass: good, if there are no issues - no system complaining you can leave it that way and eventually you remove the enz
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: ok and wat was te rror?
[11:58] <LuciusMare> this line of sudoers does not work : lucius ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/wminput : It still asks for password.Where is the problem?
[11:58] <moDumass> guntbert,  how do I remove it, just trash it?
[11:58] <guntbert> try from /etc/fstab and the you delete that partition
[11:59] <rumpsy|jobler> Any editor for svg?
[11:59] <LuciusMare> rumpsy|jobler: inkscape
[11:59] <rumpsy|jobler> ya, i forgot that, thank you
[11:59] <darkipod> http://pastebin.com/f4f68b288   <<< for the sudo lshw: -c disk
[11:59] <rudydekok> hi i'm looking for the command to list the uid (not username) for all files on a mount?
[12:00] <nature> my soudcard seems working smoothly, but there is no sound i can hear,could any one help me?
[12:00] <rumpsy|jobler> use just id
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: cool, what error do you get from: sudo mount -a
[12:00] <darkipod> [mntent]: line 14 in /etc/fstab is bad
[12:00] <guntbert> moDumass: better not too soon - maybe its a logical volume (do you use LVM?) - leave it unmounted for a while
[12:01] <darkipod> the drives work fine in Xp
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: i dont care if they work in xp
[12:01] <darkipod> ok
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:02] <darkipod> done
[12:02] <guntbert> rudydekok: ls -ln
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: and switch the floppy line with the line you added so it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m2961c71
[12:02]  * bleah re
[12:02] <rudydekok> i have a mount where all the files belong to user 'nobody' and to restore the original permissions I need to retreive the original uid's
[12:03] <rudydekok> sorry suntbert! missed yr answer. that's it! tnx
[12:03] <rudydekok> guntbert that is..
[12:03] <guntbert> rudydekok: you're welcome :-)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: save the new file and reboot
[12:05] <darkipod> ok bro u the man if works brb
[12:06] <guntbert> moDumass: later you will want to have a look at sudo fdisk -l (to see every partition) and the use a  partition manager (gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk,...) to delete the partition
[12:07] <amimusa> hello, i guess it is a simple thing but i can't find the log to identify the problem, please some help with the next issue
[12:07] <amimusa> when i try to download my email with evolution i get an error telling me that the file is too big
[12:07] <amimusa> i have enough space in the hard disk
[12:08] <amimusa> i revised the mails from webmail and there is no huge mail
[12:08] <lovre> hi all. I seem to have a problem. I cant update with KPackageKit, it says: "Failed to fetch ,,, Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111: Connection refused)"  I dont understand why its trying to connect to localhost? I think it might have something to do with me trying to install tinyproxy, firehol and dansguarding the other day. But i have purged all of them. Nevertheless, it seems as if i am myselfs proxy or something.... Any
[12:08] <lovre>  ideas about this??
[12:08] <LuciusMare> this line of sudoers does not work : lucius ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/wminput : It still asks for password.Where is the problem?
[12:08] <amimusa> i tried to find the log, but i can't
[12:08] <amimusa> please any help
[12:10] <dani_> ciaooo
[12:10] <dani_> !list
[12:10] <dani_> ciao
[12:11] <dani_> !list
[12:11] <iceroot> dani_: stop that please
[12:11] <vox> dani_: stop that
[12:11] <guntbert> !it | dani_
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: better?
[12:13] <darkipod> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[12:13] <darkipod> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> since moving to karmic I've been noticing some serious slow connection and some websites either take long to connect or don't connect at all, is there an issue with networking in karmic I don't know about?
[12:13] <Fizix> Troubles getting the RDP XP host to communicate with my Terminal Server Client, and now I that I've dual-booted the XP box with Ubuntu, it can't connect to the DSL ethernet line
[12:13] <darkipod> dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:13] <darkipod> /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:13] <Fizix> I hate this box.
[12:13] <darkipod> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: well everything matches up so I am confused
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> !pastebin > darkipod
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: are you using redsktop to connect?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> rdesktop*
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> !info rdesktop
[12:15] <Fizix> ActionParsnip, I was using the 'Terminal Server Client' that's packaged with Ubuntu 9.10
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: if you PM me I'll try the connection if you'd link. I cant get past the logon screen as I do not have your credentials
[12:16] <darkipod> i have no clue how to use pastebin
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: you did it earlier when you gave me those outputs
[12:18] <darkipod> copied what u told me to do bro
[12:18] <tarinikanth> how to set classpath for java?
[12:18] <epinky> LuciusMare: is your customized rule at the END of sudoers file ?
[12:18] <guntbert> !pastebin | darkipod
[12:18] <pointexta> hello everbody - i need help with my netbook entering the web
[12:19] <epinky> pointexta: what's the error?
[12:19] <pointexta> hy epinky
[12:21] <pointexta> i got an acer aspire one 531 - it has got an inside modem and i cant connect using the network manager
[12:21] <darkipod> using the website for this
[12:21] <darkipod> http://pastebin.com/m2abaf42d
[12:21] <epinky> tarinikanth: export CLASSPATH=/path/to/your/class/path
[12:21] <Jack|Hardy> Hello!
[12:21] <Starcraftmazter> in 9.10, when i play something fullscreen in totem, the top bar does not go away and blocks the topmost pixels of the video, is there any solution for this?
[12:21] <Jack|Hardy> I'm new to ubuntu D:
[12:22] <littlegreen> Starcraftmazter try auto-hide the panel
[12:22] <pointexta> at the moment im connectet via usb-modem
[12:22] <epinky> pointexta: do you use ppp to connect your modem?
[12:22] <darkipod> error i get when i try to mount a disk http://pastebin.com/d401991b5
[12:23] <Jack|Hardy> How are you guys today
[12:23] <littlegreen> !ot | Jack|Hardy
[12:23] <Jack|Hardy> oh thanks ubottu
[12:23] <pointexta> epinky: sorry, do not know
[12:24] <epinky> pointexta: what error fo you get?
[12:24] <epinky> pointexta: what error do you get?*
[12:24] <darkipod> sudo lshw -c disk >>>>> http://pastebin.com/d5a6fd1c9
[12:25] <epinky> darkipod: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.ORI
[12:26] <pointexta> epinky: when trying to connect, the network manger goes "not running" und the LED for my modem turns off - "you are now offline"
[12:26] <epinky> pointexta: is it dial-up service?
[12:27] <littlegreen> pointexta do you connect to a router or are you dialing a phone modem?
[12:28] <pointexta> epinky: ...dont know exactly - got a sim card - put it directly into the netbook (i deactivated the pin)
[12:29] <darkipod> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.ORI done
[12:29] <epinky> darkipod: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:29] <pointexta> littlegreen: aceraspire one531 integrated globetrotter modem
[12:29] <darkipod> done
[12:31] <pointexta> <-- from austria - not very good at IT-english
[12:31] <Starcraftmazter> littlegreen: thanks
[12:31] <darkipod> fstab is open what next?
[12:32] <littlegreen> pointexta you are attempting to use internet from a mobile-phone company>?
[12:32] <littlegreen> *internet service
[12:32] <pointexta> littlegreen: yes i do
[12:32] <epinky> darkipod: replace in line 13 /dev/scd0 with /dev/sr0
[12:32] <Jack|> I think to many children play with computers these days
[12:33] <littlegreen> pointexta and they didn't provide you with software when signing the contract?!?
[12:33] <Jack|> Ubuntu 10.x was released when?
[12:33] <epinky> darkipod: replaced?
[12:33] <alabd> Good day everyone , where will  epiphany downloaded files be saved in default ?(in browser download folder is set filesystem but there is nothing)
[12:33] <jrib> Jack|: ubuntu versions correspond to dates.  For example, 9.10 = 2009 october.  So 10.04 will only be released in april of next year
[12:33] <darkipod> done
[12:34] <Jack|> Ah I see, thank you sir!
[12:34] <epinky> darkipod: save and quit
[12:34] <darkipod> done and reboot?
[12:34] <epinky> darkipod: now on terminal "sudo mount -a"
[12:34] <_cb> My USB headphones stopped working. lsusb does not list them. How to fix?
[12:34] <littlegreen> pointexta contact your ISP (Internet Service Provider) - tell them about your problem and that you want a solution. You may have to take your laptop to one of their offices... but they are ought to solve your problem - otherwise you won't be their customer anymore and you won't pay them a penny ;-)
[12:34] <pointexta> littlegreen: the netbook was sold with winxp - and i tried 10 different linux-dists - not one can handle the modem
[12:35] <TuTUXG> can anyone help me? i changed my soundcard and pulseaudio won't connect to it, the soundcard works fine with livecd
[12:35] <littlegreen> pointexta what modem is that exactly?
[12:35] <Jack|> keep trying dudes
[12:35] <Jack|> its more fun this way anyway
[12:36] <darkipod> sudo mount -a gets  now what
[12:36] <epinky> pointexta: check this: http://sopanshewale.blogspot.com/2009/11/setting-up-netsetter-gprs-from-idea-on.html , it should be used as a base (wdial.conf part)
[12:36] <epinky> darkipod: no error?
[12:36] <darkipod> sudo mount -a *
[12:36] <_cb> tutuxg do you have the pulse audio applet?
[12:36] <darkipod> does nothing
[12:37] <darkipod> darkipod@darkipod-desktop:~$  is what i get
[12:37] <TuTUXG> _cb: yes, but im under kde
[12:37] <epinky> darkipod: then if no error, you're done
[12:37] <darkipod> reboot?
[12:37] <epinky> darkipod: no, your cd must be operational now
[12:38] <TuTUXG> _cb: i have the pulseaudio volume control program, it only shows dummy in/out put
[12:38] <_cb> tutuxg if you click on it and select volume control, output devices. Is your card listed?
[12:38] <TuTUXG> _cb: no
[12:38] <pointexta> epinky: no problem connecting an usb-modem - my problem is the integrated modem (globetrotter)
[12:39] <epinky> pointexta: if it use a SIM then it must be a GSM modem, right?
[12:39] <pointexta> epinky_ OPTION GlobeTrotter HSUPA
[12:39] <epinky> pointexta: uses*
[12:39] <TuTUXG> _cb, and under configuration, it says no card available for configuration
[12:39] <_cb> tutuxg what is listed if you do cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> epinky: why does scdX not work in fstab when the single drive was there initially?
[12:39] <TuTUXG> _cb, hold on
[12:40] <epinky> ActionParsnip: no idea man
[12:40] <epinky> ActionParsnip: :)
[12:40] <TuTUXG> _cb: 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[12:40] <pointexta> littlegreen: OPTION GlobeTrotter HSUPA
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> epinky: i tried to help earlier but looks like srX is the way
[12:40] <somono666> Hello World!
[12:40] <_cb> What is listed under audio if you do lspci?
[12:40] <TuTUXG> _cb: and HDA Intel at 0xff8d8000 irq 22
[12:40] <_cb> tutuxg What is listed under audio if you do lspci?
[12:41] <TuTUXG> _cb: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03
[12:41] <littlegreen> pointexta give your internet provider a phone call and explain your problem. I think they will have better solution than I can provide you with
[12:42] <TuTUXG> _cb: it's a laptop btw
[12:42] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi guys, i want to speed up my system by puttin up to 4GB of RAM and I found this procedure on the web "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-server" + "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server" + "sudo apt-get install linux-image-server linux-server" the guide is saying if I do as written I wouldn't have to swap to a 64-bit sys in order to have 4GB RAM or more working, is that true? if, yes, what am I changing of my system? I run In
[12:42] <_cb> looks as if it is not recognizing the sound card. Unfortunatelly don't know how to fix that
[12:42] <IpSe_DiXiT> trepid on gnome. thanks a lot :D
[12:42] <_cb> tutuxg looks as if it is not recognizing the sound card. Unfortunatelly don't know how to fix that
[12:42] <TuTUXG> _cb: but it works fine with livecd
[12:42] <pointexta> littlegreen: i tried already - "nosupport for linux user"
[12:43] <epinky> pointexta: is your modem there? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[12:43] <TuTUXG> _cb: well, thanks anyways
[12:43] <_cb> tutuxg good point. Don't know why it would work on livecd but not list
[12:44] <littlegreen> pointexta try http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/debian/Option_Globetrotter_HSUPA_Modem/
[12:44] <TuTUXG> _cb: my old lap's mb fried, so i just install the old harddrive into this new laptop, with the old system on it
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  the server kernel has PAE support so can access more then 4gb of ram. if you have EXACTLY 4gb of ram. Im not sure you are going to gain anything. with exactly 4gb of ram . some is still 'reserved' for use by the system.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  so you still wont have  full access to all 4 gb.
[12:45] <Jack|Bored> ah PAE addressing
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  so all your work may be for very little gain.
[12:45] <Jack|Bored> That sounds about right
[12:45] <hylman> hi all, anybody using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10?
[12:46] <Jack|Bored> no but google has this cool new cloud OS thingy
[12:46] <Jack|Bored> check it out hylman
[12:46] <Jack|Bored> lolz
[12:47] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: right, so what this guide's sayin is not that trustworthy as it seems... I have 2gb now, whatz the max amount of ram i can install without any "weird" procedure on my system? (being sure it'll be recognized and used)
[12:47] <hylman> Jack|Bored: google chromium OS is still under dev...
[12:47] <hylman> not my cup of tea
[12:47] <Jack|Bored> Yeah I like linux kernels anyway
[12:47] <pointexta> littlegreen: epinky: thanks for your help, but now im confused - but i will try to lok through your links
[12:48] <hylman> I wonder if anyone notice that the "games" tab of UNR is clipped at the bottom, i.e.: last icons were clipped
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  once you get over 4gb . then its time to worry about the pae  or 64bit. Personally i just use 64bit distros all the time now a days
[12:48] <hylman> Jack|Bored: what's the boot time like? have u tried one?
[12:48] <Jack|Bored> I wish D:
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  from my understanding the normal 32bit kernbel can addres UP TO 4gb. however some of the 4gb will still be reserved by the system and thus not fully useable.
[12:49] <sjd> hey. I have a dell Studio 14. Karmic is up. but no sound. what to do?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  i imagine the 64bit, and pae stuff still have that same limitatiion
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  pay attention to how much ram and swap you are using. If you are never using swap. then more ram proberly wont help much.
[12:49] <Jack|Bored> Actually Dr. Willis I think in theory its 3.5 GB? I know XP only uses 3.25 MAX but thats an NT system
[12:50] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: ok, so till 4gb. where can i find this piece of info? cuz i looked it up but it seems everyone says a different thing, isnt there an "official" ubuntu guide about it? (haven't found it)
[12:50] <sjd> please help. badly need sound
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  i read a lot of forum posts on it. its a hardware limition of the 4gb thing to some degree.. if you have exactly 4gb of ram . a small part of it will still get reserved for use by the hardware.  From what i recall.
[12:51] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: atm im using 48% of 2gb of ram and 3% of 3.5 Gb of swap
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  if you have more then 4gb then its time to worry about it,
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  odd that you are using any swap at all. if your ram is not 100%
[12:51] <sjd> can someone help? please
[12:52] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: yeah i thought it was strange as well, but thatz what i see by opening the System Monitor
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  you are proberly worring about things too much.  Linux handles memory much better then windows does.
[12:52] <Jack|Bored> Now that is a cool feature of Ubuntu Ipse!
[12:53] <epinky> sjd: I'd suggest you to get rid of pulseaudio, but I think ubuntugeek.com's link is down :(
[12:53] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: yeah but sometimes when im running lots of processes together, some of em gets stuck and i think its a ram-related issue, thatz why i thought about puttin in some more
[12:53] <Jack|Bored> BSD handles memory well too, but not my cup of tea :P
[12:53] <sjd> epinky: killall pulseaudio ?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  you can always try. but ive rarely had ram issues with linux.
[12:54] <Mkman> hello
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  you would have to be putting quite a bit of load/ram ussage on a system to make  things 'stuck' :)
[12:54] <hylman> really, nobody using UNR here?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> hylman:  theres a few in here that use it.
[12:54] <epinky> sjd: I meant uninstalling PULSEAUDIO and going back to ALSA , try to do a search about that
[12:54] <hylman> Dr_Willis: do you use it?
[12:54] <mrXX> please recommend me a good open source mailing software - that integrates easily with database
[12:55] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: so you think the reason why sometimes it gets stuck itz cuz of my cpu? but i have 2.40Ghz dual core processor
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> hylman:  ive used it in the past. poerhaps ask your actual question about it . and someone may answer you
[12:55] <Jack|Bored> mrXX Try Thunderbird or Evolution?
[12:55] <sjd> epinky: okay. thanks for the tip. let me give a try
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  it all depends on what you are doing.  Ive rarely managed to overload my linux machines
[12:55] <mrXX> Jack|Bored i mean something that can be integrated with the website and my database
[12:56] <Jack|Bored> ruh roh outta ideaz
[12:56] <guwe> how to extract file *.rar ?
[12:56] <Jack|Bored> and time! see ya
[12:56] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: i really run several processes at the same time, processes that, according to the System Monitor get up to 20% of cpu usage sometimes...
[12:56] <hylman> I wonder if anyone notice in UNR 9,10, that in the "games" tab window clips the bottom icons
[12:57] <AlexJones> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 freshly. I had exported all imported data from the programs for backup. The only thing I forgot to export was the bookmarks in firefox. Luckily I made a complete backup of the /home folder. Which folder do I have to copy to my new installation so I get all my Firefox 3.5 bookmarks back?
[12:58] <Cajjita> server irc.rizon.net
[12:58] <epinky> guwe: Gnome?
[12:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: /home/.mozilla/firefox/a-random-number-of-your-user/bookmarks
[12:58] <guwe> epinky, yes
[12:58] <epinky> guwe: open File Roller then
[12:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: but i guess you had to "export" them before in order to creat a .html file to import now that you need...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> i always just copy the whole .mozilla dir over to my new install. :)  befor i run firefox the first time.
[12:59] <guwe> epinky, how? archieve type not supported
[12:59] <vega> AlexJones: .mozilla/firefox/... you can import from there using Bookmarks -> Manage bookmarks -> Import and backup
[13:00] <guwe> epinky, its ok. solved
[13:00] <guwe> thanks
[13:00] <kavurt> AlexJones: have you heard about Xmarks? once you installed it, you don't have to worry about bookmarks anymore. . .
[13:01] <johnny__> hi, exist a way for protect a file of modification, so nobody can modify it (all users, include root user)?
[13:01] <ubuntu_> encryption?
[13:01] <ubuntu_> True Crypt?
[13:02] <ubuntu_> cyphers! :D
[13:02] <jrib> johnny__: man chattr
[13:02] <jcrawford> hey guys when the next version of Ubuntu comes out will the update manager update me or will I need to do a new install etc.?  I am not sure how Linux handles upgrades like that
[13:02] <jrib> jcrawford: update manager will inform you about it
[13:02] <jrib> !away > crohakon|zZz
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> johnny__: could chmod g-w o-w a-w to mark it read only, root can still set writable back though
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  ubuntu supports upgrading to the next release. thats not really a  'linux' thing. but a ubuntu thing. :)
[13:03] <crohakon|zZz> oh hush
[13:03] <jcrawford> jrib, is it generally safe to upgrade through the update manager or is it still being tested etc.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  it pays to always have backups. I always do clean installs personally.
[13:03] <johnny__> yes root can undo the protection stuff also in chattr
[13:03] <jcrawford> Dr_Willis, well i know Fedora does as well which is why i stated i was not sure how all linux flavors handled it :)
[13:03] <jcrawford> thanks Dr_Willis
[13:03] <jrib> jcrawford: it's supposed to be safe once it is released, but you should have backups just in case as Dr_Willis suggested
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !vnc > Fizix
[13:04] <jrib> johnny__: if you don't want root to be able to undo some setting then you need some sort of hardware protection.  Try a cd-r I guess?
[13:04] <ubuntu_> or a masterlock
[13:05] <ubuntu_> on a box with your hard drives in it
[13:05] <johnny__> ok
[13:05] <johnny__> cdrom maybe
[13:05] <maxstirner1> my karmic isnt booting, any ideas how to troubleshoot it?
[13:06] <Jack|F3> Try googling karmic wiki maxstirner!
[13:06] <maxstirner1> In Eastern beliefs, the karmic effects of all deeds are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences. The results or 'fruits' of actions ...?
[13:06] <AlexJones> IpSe_DiXiT, , veha, kavurt: But I can only import if I have a .json file or not? Can I simply move the entire subfolder to the new installation?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> maxstirner1: boot to liveCD or installed karmic?
[13:06] <Jack|F3> Conscious decisions are important, they define us on a lot of levels max.
[13:06] <maxstirner1> installed, its suddenly stopped booting at an early stage
[13:07] <maxstirner1> "starting apparmor profile" etc
[13:07] <Misantropo> i am trying to run a bootp server for upgrading the firmware of my modem/router. When running the command: bootpd -d4 it returns: bootpd: error(3):  bind: Address already in use
[13:07] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: first it stopped upon "Loading cpufreq modules" which I deactivated, this didnt help, so I assume its the step after that
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> maxstirner1: edit the boot options in grub with e to edit the boot to not show the boot splash so you can see whats going on
[13:07] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: I would really just like to know how to troubleshoot it..
[13:08] <Misantropo> there is no info on the web for this error
[13:08] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: It does turn off splash at the end, showing where its failed..
[13:08] <Jack|F3> Well booting into an OS is a simple matter, just some machine code and software and stuff
[13:08] <maxstirner1> you mean quiet=no
[13:08] <Jack|F3> Try googling bootloader max
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Misantropo:  sounds liek it may allr4eady be running, perhaps you need to 'restart' the service.
[13:08] <Misantropo> i see
[13:08] <Misantropo> Dr_Willis, thanks
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> maxstirner1: then websearch for that, see if there are bugs or guides for it
[13:09] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: told u though, if u wanted to import ur bookmarks u should have had them "exported" before in a .html file, im not sure about what u can do now, but u can try what Dr_Willis suggested, just copy and paste ur whole old /.mozilla folder into ur new /home overwriting  the new one and see what happens (of course id do a backup of my new one, u never no...)
[13:10] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help, sadly there arent.. where would the logfiles be?
[13:10] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[13:10] <Jack|F3> hello!
[13:10] <AlexJones> IpSe_DiXiT, OK. Thank you.
[13:10] <EvaLuaTe> when trying to install python-fife i get this error: python-fife: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[13:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: no sweat :D
[13:11] <Misantropo> Dr_Willis, it is not running
[13:11] <Jack|F3> Tired
[13:11] <Jack|F3> Go away
[13:12] <djura-san> hello 2all
[13:12] <sponzor> do you have ubuntu server graphic install option?
[13:13] <EvaLuaTe> anyone...?
[13:13] <sledgeas> hello. i have only ssh access to ubuntu. how can i perform software updates via command line (i.e. see what update are available and then actually update) thanks!
[13:14] <LjL> sledgeas: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:15] <mrXX>  If i export a file running a php code in my website(located in a remote server) where will the file get exported??
[13:15] <SeismicMike> I have a mild pet peeve.... I connect to a Cisco VPN using vpnc and Network-Manager-vpnc... I originally installed this system as 9.04 (jaunty), but upgraded to 9.10 (karmic) when it came out. Before the upgrade, I would get a padlock icon that would cover my connection icon in my "task bar" when I was connected, but after the upgrade I don't get that any more
[13:15] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: any idea why i get that error when trying to install python-fife?
[13:15] <Jack|F3> Mike a CCNA or CCNP could help you
[13:16] <SeismicMike> It's not a major problem - the VPN still works - I just like the quick visual reference to tell me if I'm connected
[13:16] <Jack|F3> Maybe they'll address that in 10.x
[13:16] <LjL> !info python-fife
[13:16] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: where does that come from?
[13:17] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: no idea, I'm actually trying to install unknown-horizons, and it requires python-fife
[13:17] <Jack|F3> That's a cool game!
[13:17] <sjd> epinky: hey. i ran apt-get purge pulseaudio. now pulseaudio had been installed. but now, seems, sound is not managed. what to do?
[13:17] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: that's not in the repos either - where does it come from?
[13:17] <EvaLuaTe> Jack|F3: yeah, I'm looking forward to try it myself. Any tips on how to get it to install?
[13:17] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: : http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/07/unknown-horizons-rts-game.html
[13:18] <jarod51> Hi
[13:18] <Jack|F3> Try WinE, but remember it is a D3D10 game
[13:18] <jacekowski> hi
[13:18] <howlymowly> hi guys.. do any of you know something about restructured text?  I am considiering using it as an alternativ to latex but i don't know how to number figures and tables...
[13:18] <epinky> sjd: now, I guess ALSA should be installed
[13:18] <boomernang> in the install of 9.10 i chose to partition one of my discs as /home/sdb/data. its all sweet but it is owned by root and in group root. Is this the proper way/safest way? Or should i change its ownership and group to my ubuntu user?
[13:18] <jarod51> I don't manage to activate dual screen with an ati graphic card. Can anybody help me ?
[13:18] <miha> hello i wonder why Display settings with ATI user interface never lasts for next reboot... i click apply, ok... it works for that session, but on next load, i get old wrong settings. i dont expect quick fix... but it would be welcome for future version ...
[13:18] <jacekowski> i have one question - who had so stupid idea to use untested beta grub2 in "stable" distribution
[13:18] <Frantic> does anyone know a way to add a windows user from linux? :)
[13:18] <sjd> epinky: ALSA is already installed. i can get the mixer running from the terminal. 1.0.20
[13:19] <jrib> jacekowski: please ask actual support questions here
[13:19] <Jack|F3> lol
[13:19] <AlexJones> IpSe_DiXiT, , veha, kavurt: It worked. Firefox automatically makes a backup. There is a folder called "backupfolder". Very nice. Thx for the help.
[13:19] <jacekowski> it's like every single day we have user with same grub2 problems
[13:19] <miha> jarod51: make sure display is connected before you log in
[13:19] <jacekowski> on #ubuntu-pl
[13:20] <epinky> sjd: are you following some howto or guide?
[13:20] <Jack|F3> Poland! That's a cool country
[13:20] <jrib> jacekowski: bugs.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <sponzor> do you have ubuntu server graphic install option?
[13:20] <sjd> epinky: nope.
[13:20] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: it doesn't really seem to me like that package is supposed to work in karmic...
[13:20] <jacekowski> jrib: reported, nobody care
[13:20] <Jack|F3> Good call jacekowski
[13:20] <jrib> jacekowski: link?
[13:21] <jarod51> miha: it's ok :)
[13:21] <epinky> sjd: ouch, gimme a minute
[13:21] <sjd> epinky: :)
[13:21] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: try following these instructions instead (first remove the lines you added to sources.list with the other instructions) http://aminesoft.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/unknown-horizons-game-for-ubuntu/
[13:21] <LjL> in there at least karmic is explicitly mentioned
[13:21] <Jack|F3> wow 1411 users what a party
[13:22] <miha> i'll repeat .. for log :)...  i wonder why Display settings with ATI user interface never lasts for next reboot... i click apply, ok... it works for that session, but on next load, i get old wrong settings. i dont expect quick fix... but it would be welcome for future version ...
[13:22] <jacekowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477430
[13:22] <jacekowski> i've found couple duplicates of it in different variations
[13:23] <jacekowski> and no response to any of them
[13:23] <Jack|F3> GRUB has had a troubled history IMO
[13:23] <jarod51> miha: one more information, i don't/can't use ati proprietary drivers :(
[13:23] <jacekowski> but somebody had time to strip down gdm configurator
[13:23] <jacekowski> to 5 options
[13:23] <maxstirner1> my karmic isnt booting as of today and its really winding me up
[13:23] <jacekowski> instead of normall configurator
[13:23] <jacekowski> and add loads of shit
[13:23] <jacekowski> it's getting worse every release
[13:23] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: yup, that seems to work. Thanks a lot :)
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> jacekowski:  that would be the GNOME devs doing that to GDM i recall...
[13:24] <maxstirner1> update-grub2 isnt working either
[13:24] <AlexJones> During installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I had created a 15GB /tmp partition within my encrypted LVM. Now I realize that those 15 GB is too much. How can I mount the 15 GB /tmp partition to /media/files permanently and use /tmp in the root partition? I had edited the fstab and changed /dev/mapper/encryptedVol-tmp /tmp    ext4    defaults        0       2
[13:24] <AlexJones>      to     /dev/mapper/encryptedVol-tmp /media/files    ext4    defaults        0       2
[13:24] <AlexJones> . But then after the next reboot I was not able to log in anymore getting the error message: "/usr/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check exited with status 256). What should I do?
[13:24] <FloodBot5> AlexJones: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <jrib> jacekowski: whining here accomplishes nothing other than me caring less about helping you
[13:24] <sjd> epinky: ?
[13:24] <LuciusMare> epinky: holy mother,5 channels,two topics and nobody ever told me this,it works! :D
[13:24] <jacekowski> jrib: i don't want your help
[13:25] <jacekowski> jrib: i fixed it myself
[13:25] <miha> :D
[13:25] <junruh> d
[13:25] <jrib> jacekowski: this channel is for help
[13:25] <sledgeas> thanks LjL!
[13:25] <jacekowski> jrib: but there is loads of people that come to -pl and ask same questions
[13:25] <miha> #ubuntu-offtopic for netsex :D
[13:25] <junruh> I can't open a panel!
[13:25]  * Brandano watches as the #ubuntu-offtopic user count rises...
[13:25] <miha> :D
[13:26] <jacekowski> you can help my by not adding untested software to distribution that is used by normal users that don't know anything about PC
[13:26] <Brandano> Howdy people
[13:26] <jacekowski> me*
[13:26] <JediMaster> anyone know why amarok seems to have forgotten all my track details and doesn't even try to read any ID3 (or similar info)? I've checked the same m4a track in VLC and it reads the track info
[13:26] <junruh> miha:What's netsex?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> jacekowski:  this channel is not in charge of that.
[13:26] <miha> it's like phonesex, only you type
[13:27] <Brandano> I want to install kubuntu from an iso image on a spare ext3 partition on my multiboot laptop, keeping my current grub2 install. Anyone knows if this is feasible?
[13:27] <jrib> jacekowski: this is open source, bugs happen.  Document the fix on the bug report and point them there.  You said you found duplicates, but I don't see any.  One way to help triage the bug, is to mark all the duplicates so that developers can work on the issue more easily
[13:27] <junruh> Ahh, I've do it alreaddy
[13:27] <miha> Brandano: during install tell to install grub on partition or nowhere at all, not on mbr, then edit grub settings for MBR yourself to continue loading from that partition
[13:27] <Brandano> miha: usually one-handed, though, so it's much slower
[13:27] <sjd> epinky: I badly need sound. :(
[13:28] <Brandano> miha: so I should boot in any case from the CD media, right?
[13:28] <SmokeyD> Hey people, I am having the weirdest network problem. I manually configure my network. The sysadmins here gave me a static dhcp lease. But when I set /etc/network/interfaces to use dhcp for eth0 and I restart the network, I don't get a reply after the dhcp requests to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:28] <Brandano> I sort of hoped I could run the installer within one of the other OSes
[13:28] <miha> Brandano: well later you can edit main grub to add boot from that partition
[13:28] <SmokeyD> when I then add a route to the subnet in which eth0 should get an address and say ifconfig eth0 up, and then say dhclient3 eth0
[13:28] <SmokeyD> I do get an address
[13:28] <miha> Brandano: just dont install over existing grub
[13:29] <SmokeyD> so somehow I don't get a reply on the dhcp requests to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:29] <littlegreen> Brandano static DHCP is used to assign always the same IP address to a network card's MAC Address. You don't have to input ip addresses manualy
[13:29] <epinky> sjd: "sudo file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio" gives any result?
[13:30] <Brandano> littlegreen: nice to know that...
[13:30] <sjd> epinky: error: no such file or directory
[13:30] <littlegreen> Brandano => you don't configure your network manualy => everything is OK... or it is not static DHCP
[13:31] <Brandano> littlegreen: I think you meant to say this to SmokeyD  :)
[13:31] <epinky> sijd: ouch :(  , you had to backed it up
[13:31] <littlegreen> Brandano I'm very sorry, I did...
[13:31] <littlegreen> SmokeyD static DHCP is used to assign always the same IP address to a network card's MAC Address. You don't have to input ip addresses manualy
[13:31] <SmokeyD> ow, wait, I indeed missed that
[13:31] <SmokeyD> :)
[13:31] <SmokeyD> littlegreen: yeah I know
[13:32] <DaNoObY> Hey guys I want to use chroot to update an ubuntu distriub via apt... What else beside envoking it via <chroot /media/sda1> do I have to do?
[13:32] <Brandano> plus, "static" and "DHCP" don't usually fit in the same sentence. Unless you are talking about ip reservation :)
[13:32] <littlegreen> SmokeyD => you don't configure network manualy => Everything is ok.. or it is not static DHCP routing
[13:32] <SmokeyD> The problem is, I am not getting an IP through DHCP
[13:32] <SmokeyD> Brandano: I am indeed talking about a reservation
[13:32] <Brandano> so it's a matter of tweaking the DHCP server
[13:33] <Brandano> so that a MAC will have the same IP assigned
[13:33] <SmokeyD> I am not at home, I am in a business environment
[13:33] <sjd> epinky: uh oh. what to do now?
[13:33] <SmokeyD> So I'll try to explain again
[13:33] <SmokeyD> sorry if I'm not clear in my explanation
[13:33] <SmokeyD> The syadmin here setup an ip reservation for me based on my mac address
[13:34] <epinky> sjd: ok, anyway let's try "sudo apt-get install -y esound esound-clients esound-common libesd-alsa0"
[13:34] <SmokeyD> in his dhcp server
[13:34] <Brandano> SmokeyD: you mean your DHCP client doesn't find a DHCP server on broadcast?
[13:34] <SmokeyD> Brandano: yes
[13:34] <Brandano> hmm, can you actually ping he DHCP server if you assign a static ip manually?
[13:34] <SmokeyD> :) you sound so much clearer when you say it
[13:34] <SmokeyD> Brandano: yes I can
[13:35] <Riba^^m> a
[13:35] <Riba^^m> a
[13:35] <Riba^^m> a
[13:35] <FloodBot5> Riba^^m: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <zauber> Say I've got a server running a wiki under apache, postfix, dovecot, a webmail client, and samba file sharing - all on a local intranet. What sort of technology would I look into if I wanted all the users of wiki/email/filesharing to authenticate with the same password - I just want one place to set up user accounts for all these services. Is there some such thing?
[13:35] <ranjan> how to chake out my input devise seting in ubuntu 9.10
[13:35] <ranjan> via command
[13:35] <AlexJones> Could anybody please help me with the following problem? http://pastebin.ca/1696317
[13:35] <Brandano> SmokeyD: I wish I also knew how to help you. TBH I am not really a networking expert
[13:35] <SmokeyD> Brandano: and when I set it to dhcp but don't start the network yet, then add a route to my local subnet on eth0, then say ifconfig eth0 up and then use dhclient3 -s <ip of dhcp server> I do get an ip address
[13:36] <ranjan> how to chake out my input devise seting in ubuntu 9.10 via command
[13:36] <DaNoObY> Hey Guyz, I am tying to update an usb drive's ubuntu distro via a live as I dont have access to it! What else beside <chroot /media/sda1> do I have to do? I want to use aptitute to update>
[13:37] <ranjan> how to chake out my input devise seting in ubuntu 9.10 via command  weater it's alsa, oss or pulse .. i am not sure so please help
[13:38] <Brandano> ranjan: audio input, not input device. Input devices are mice and keyboards
[13:38] <MaXlMuS>  hello good morning guys
[13:38] <Brandano> ranjan: by default on 9.x the audio is managed by pulse, both when recording and for playback
[13:38] <DaNoObY> Pease just give me a short hint! I know it is just one or two commands but not which?!? I am tying to update an USB drive's ubuntu distro via a live CD as I don't have access to it! What else beside <chroot /media/sda1> do I have to do? I want to use aptitute to update?
[13:38] <AlexJones> MaXlMuS, it is 14:37. You should get a litte earlier.
[13:39] <AlexJones> MaXlMuS, it is 14:37. You should get up a litte earlier.
[13:39] <Brandano> ranjan: you can check in the sound preferences, what is the entry for the audio recording
[13:39] <Brandano> ranjan: the "sound capture" item, I mean
[13:39] <MaXlMuS> i know but but...
[13:39] <MaXlMuS> tlol
[13:40] <DaNoObY> Who knows how to use chroot and has a few seconds for me?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:41] <sjd> epinky: trying.
[13:41] <DaNoObY> Who is familiar with chroot?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !chroot
[13:41] <sjd> epinky: installed the packages. what next?
[13:42] <DaNoObY> !chroot?
[13:42] <Brandano> DaNoObY: careful what you do with chroot and "mount bind" directives
[13:42] <MikeChelen> bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, anyone know how to diagnose the problem?
[13:42] <ranjan> Brandano:: but it is not giving me any idea what short of codec it is ud=sing for inputing sound
[13:42] <DaNoObY> Bra
[13:42] <sjd> epinky: ?
[13:42] <epinky> sjd: reboot (and pray) you got rid of pulseaudio without following any guide(Don't do that again)
[13:43] <sponzor> can you install ubuntu server from ubuntu dvd?
[13:43] <ranjan> Brandano:: if you have any idea then let me know ...
[13:43] <amokpaule> Hello, i deletet by accident the bottom panel in gnome , can i somehow restore it?
[13:43] <MikeChelen> sponzor: think it requires the server cd
[13:44] <Brandano> ranjan: wave input. Should map to a mixer device. Usually alsa
[13:44] <DaNoObY> Brandano: I just need to now what else beside <chroot /media/sda1> I have to do, to get it fully invoked?
[13:44] <bazhang> !resetpanels | amokpaule
[13:44] <amokpaule> Ty
[13:44] <Python1320> Small test:VERSION
[13:45] <smb96> dont forget to mount /proc
[13:45] <Python1320> oh wow
[13:45] <Python1320> Those clients are very compatible
[13:45] <Brandano> DaNoObY: nothing really. You have to log in.
[13:45] <miha> :D
[13:45] <DaNoObY> Brandano: I just need to now what else beside <chroot /media/sda1> I have to do, to get it fully invoked? I know about the risk but it is just a usb junp dirve with no sensitive data
[13:45] <Python1320> Need to try quassel.
[13:45] <Lord-Readman> hi
[13:45] <Brandano> smb96: isn't that usually mounted via fstab?
[13:45] <Lord-Readman> how long does it take for ideas to get rejected or approved? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22712/
[13:46] <Brandano> DaNoObY: the risk is messing up your "host" os, not the usb drive
[13:46] <DaNoObY> doing with login username
[13:46] <DaNoObY> well my host is a live cd
[13:46] <DaNoObY> >(
[13:46] <ranjan> Brandano:: Analog superio duplex  is being used as hard ware profile  and i am not geting that what is that .. if you have any idea what that
[13:46] <Brandano> because if you have mount bind directives in fstab, some of the directories you see will actually be on your local HD
[13:47] <Brandano> ranjan: it's your soundcard chipset
[13:47] <smb96> Brandano, yes, but for me sometimes it does not work, so i do it manual
[13:47] <amokpaule> Its not restoring it to defaults
[13:47] <DaNoObY> Brandano: -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied    This is what I get
[13:47] <DaNoObY> if I login
[13:48] <Brandano> because the user has its home set to /dev/null
[13:48] <Brandano> and no permissions to it
[13:48]  * bleah leaving .
[13:48] <MaXlMuS> i wonder if this irc server is runing from a ubuntu machine =P
[13:48] <Brandano> not that having ermissions would help...
[13:48] <harovali1> hi, how can I deactivate the graphic environment in ubuntu karmic ?
[13:48] <miha> Brandano: well no permission is irrelavant :D /dev/null is not really useful :D
[13:48] <miha> hehe
[13:48] <miha> yeah
[13:49] <harovali1> i'd like the machine to be text-only
[13:49] <EagleScreen> harovali1: sudo service gdm stop
[13:49] <DaNoObY> so how can i chage that, or will I be able to run a full update using apt anyway
[13:49] <smb96> DaNoObY, how did you do the mount bind?
[13:49] <kosnick> hi , i got some issue (after upgrding to 9.10) with jack control. Every time i start jack control music in (all) players stops. By the moment i quit jack control music comes back again. Anything?
[13:49] <harovali1> EagleScreen: thanks; now how can I prevent gdm from starting at all ?
[13:49] <smb96> DaNoObY, why not?
[13:49] <DaNoObY> smb96: with <mount /media/sda1>
[13:49] <ranjan> Brandano:: so how to know which driver it is using onmy system
[13:50] <Brandano> harovali1: change the runlevel in init.d?
[13:50] <DaNoObY> smb96: I am just wondering
[13:50] <SmokeyD> Brandano: I just had to leave the dhcp server rest for a while I guess. After leaving the machine alone for a while, I do get normal dhcp replies
[13:50] <EagleScreen> harovali1: install rcconf package, run rcconf and disable gdm from the list
[13:50] <smb96> nono
[13:50] <SmokeyD> I guess it got the heebyjeebies or something
[13:50] <smb96> DaNoObY, not good
[13:50] <Brandano> SmokeyD: probably it had to wait until a cronjob started
[13:50] <sjd> epinky: hey. no sound still. what to do?
[13:50] <DaNoObY> why?
[13:51] <DaNoObY> smb96: why_
[13:51] <smb96> DaNoObY, search for a howto or something. You will break something if i just tell you the commands
[13:51] <DaNoObY> smb96: I was looking for one but didnt find one...
[13:51] <sjd> epinky: ? :(
[13:51] <DaNoObY> smb96:  so I was just tying out
[13:52] <harovali1> EagleScreen: in the rcconf list, gdm appears already deselected, is that suposed to represent the current runlevel configuration ? or should I call rcconf with parameters ?
[13:52] <epinky> sjd: read this carefully: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html I wanted to post this before, but ubuntugeek.com was down, bad luck :(
[13:53] <ubuntu__> hey all, looking for help with Huawei E620 USB modem, it gets recognised when I first plug it in, but then it dissappears from network manager. Can anyone give me a clue?
[13:53] <DaNoObY> ?
[13:53] <quizme> i installed a program called "maglev-rub" and i'm trying to figure out how much memory it takes up. how do i do that?
[13:54] <harovali1> Brandano: I tried that, but being the normal graphics runlevel "2" sonfused me. I expected it to be 5 , and be able to change 5 to 2, but being this the situation, I would know toi which runlevel change the system
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> hello everybody, i got a killer issue here. I upgraded the production ubuntu server here and i now got the issue that all non root processes cant get acces to the internet
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> i cant ping as normal use
[13:54] <smb96> DaNoObY, there must be tons of it
[13:54] <smb96> DaNoObY, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> my mailserver is also down because it cant resolve anymore
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> it can be bind or apparmor of whatever
[13:54] <smb96> DaNoObY, from "Preparing Your Working Environment"
[13:55] <EagleScreen> this is strange for me, harovali1
[13:55] <tuxcrafter> does somebody know how to debug this and get the system working again
[13:55] <smb96> they want to install grub, but you can use the chroot part
[13:55] <MikeChelen> quizme: look in system monitor process list
[13:56] <quizme> mikechelen thanks
[13:56] <MikeChelen> quizme: the same came be done from command line with "top" or "htop"
[13:56] <squircle> hi, is there a way i can chroot my sftp users? right now they all have access to the root filesystem when (ideally) i only want their root directory to be /srv
[13:56] <quizme> mikechelen my problem is that the process name is not descriptive
[13:57] <tuxcrafter> so the network is network unreachable as non root
[13:57] <EagleScreen> harovali1: you can usa other runlevel or edit the current
[13:57] <epinky> ubuntu__: bad news: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/456662
[13:57] <harovali1> EagleScreen: in fact, gdm dos not start from the rc system
[13:57] <AlexJones> Could anybody please help me with the following problem? http://pastebin.ca/1696317
[13:58] <squircle> AlexJones: i'm not an expert by any means, but i think it's a problem with your gconf... maybe the tmpdir is still set to /dev/mapper/encryptedVol-tmp?
[13:59] <ubuntu__> epinky: thanks for the link :)
[13:59] <EagleScreen> oh I see harovali1, it is not in any rcX.d
[13:59] <MikeChelen> quizme: what program is it?
[14:00] <EagleScreen> a few versions ago in Ubuntu it could be disables with rcconf
[14:00]  * jongbergs sits back
[14:00] <harovali1> EagleScreen: I mean, in spite of there being a /etc/init.d/gdm script , there is no S*gdm file in the /etc hierarchy (as you already noted above)
[14:00] <Brandano> harovali1: tbh, I don't remember which runlevel is which. Mainly I had to deal with it to turn the GDM ON rather than OFF. Let me try something
[14:00] <Brandano> !runlevel
[14:00] <quizme> mikechelen: rake maglev:start  <--- maglev ruby
[14:00] <sjd> epinky: it seems to be for 9.04
[14:00] <sjd> epinky:  i have installed pulseaudio again. now im at square 1.
[14:00] <harovali1> ubottu: oh
[14:00] <sjd> epinky: can you tell me what to do?
[14:01] <MikeChelen> quizme: do ruby programs show up as ruby processes?
[14:01] <quizme> mikechelen: yeah but this is a smalltalk process i think.
[14:01] <epinky> sjd: follow that guide it worked for some people having problems with Pulseaudio
[14:02] <jadakren> harovali1: ubottu is a ircbot... not a person behind the keyboard
[14:02] <sjd> epinky: but it is for jaunty. im on Karmic.
[14:03] <sjd> epinky: as in the how to, im not able to select alsa device in  karmic
[14:03] <Brandano> jadakren: you should see the number of people that tries o start a conversation with fajita in #apache
[14:03] <EagleScreen> Ubuntu is using upstart many versiona ago, when it already used upstart gdm was launched with rc system and rcconf was able to deselect it, i used to use it
[14:04] <sjd> epinky: got any clue?
[14:04] <Kalumba1> Can someone tell me why PPPoE doesn't work with Karmic (64 bit) fresh install? Fedora 12 handles it well and it also uses Network Manager. I have the log of on pastebin.com here: http://pastebin.com/m738c4c2f
[14:04] <epinky> sjd: you've got to switch to esd, that's my advice
[14:04] <antares> what's the repo address to install gnome 2.8?
[14:04] <mrXX>  to connect to my database i use localhost, similarly, what is the name to use for a database in ixwebhosting.com?
[14:05] <sjd> epinky: how do I do that?!
[14:05] <harovali1> jadakren: yes, I already realized, but it is being nice to me too :-)
[14:05] <MikeChelen> quizme: try sorting by username or process time to narrow the list?
[14:05] <harovali1> EagleScreen: that datum is very interesting
[14:05] <purvesh> how to log in .. like msg svr ?
[14:06] <MikeChelen> mrXX: ask your webhost, usually something like mysql.yourdomain.com
[14:06] <harovali1> EagleScreen: how would you try to do the same now? Should I dive into Upstart's workings?
[14:06] <epinky> sjd: maybe you're missing this: "sudo apt-get install padevchooser -y"
[14:06] <purvesh> how to log in .. like \msg svr ?
[14:06] <deserteagle> hello all, anyone know why Firefox keeps trying to launch nautilus to "Open Containing Folder" even though I told it to use something else?
[14:07] <EagleScreen> harovali1: or you switch to Debian, or you learn editing upstart stuff
[14:07] <harovali1> EagleScreen: I'd put debuian, but i'm doing a remote configuration, and the machine is already install, i'll try ti fix it in upstart
[14:07] <Brandano> incidentally, what is the point of running ubuntu without GDM?
[14:08] <purvesh> any 1 help me ... can any 1 say how to login in xchat, \nicksvr msg   ?
[14:08] <Brandano> unless it's a server, in which case there's purpose made distros
[14:08] <sjd> epinky: trying.
[14:08] <EagleScreen> harovali1: you alwaus can uninstall gdm
[14:08] <Brandano> purvesh: /msg nickserv help
[14:08] <Brandano> note the direction of th slash
[14:08] <purvesh> thanx
[14:09] <Brandano> also, in xchat you can login to nickserv automatically, setting it up in the networks section of the preferences
[14:09] <sjd> epinky: but my friend has a studio 15. of the same spec. he runs karmic with sound better than ever!
[14:09] <EagleScreen> if you uninstall gdm, and there is any other alternative like kdm or xdm, i think it won't start X automatically
[14:10] <Brandano> sjd: the way I fixed sound in 9.04 after an upgrade was to purge pulseaudio and reinstall it from scratch
[14:10] <deserteagle> anyone here use a file-manager other than nautilus?
[14:10] <purvesh> Brandano, hey how to see my log ... means in past .. what i ask .. n other stuff.. ?
[14:10] <sjd> epinky: I installed padevchooser. what next?
[14:11] <Brandano> purvesh: that's xchat specific... perhaps there's an #xchat channel?
[14:11] <EagleScreen> deserteagle: thunar is very good for me
[14:11] <deserteagle> EagleScreen, have you gotten thunar to open when you tell firefox to "Open Containing Folder" on downloads?
[14:11] <purvesh> Brandano, its k.......!
[14:11] <epinky> sjd: Applications->Sound and Video->Pulse Audio Device Choser
[14:11] <Codenut> I am running 8.04, Is the upgrade to 9.1 worth it?
[14:11] <deserteagle> yes
[14:12] <Codenut> What do I gain?
[14:12] <EagleScreen> deserteagle: i think it is easy to do
[14:12] <Brandano> Codenut: yes. probably easier to reinstall, though
[14:12] <Kalumba1> Can someone tell me why PPPoE doesn't work with Karmic (64 bit) fresh install? Fedora 12 handles it well and it also uses Network Manager. I have the log of on pastebin.com here: http://pastebin.com/m738c4c2f
[14:12] <MikeChelen> !upgrade
[14:12] <deserteagle> EagleScreen, were you able to? i'm having issues getting it to work
[14:12] <Codenut> Thanks
[14:13] <Brandano> Codenut: unless you are in a business environment. In which case, 8.04 is a LTS release, stick with it
[14:13] <harovali1> EagleScreen: yeah
[14:14] <jack__> hello
[14:15] <aperson> !hello | jack__
[14:15] <sjd> epinky: i can see the volume bars running as I play a file. but still  no soumd
[14:15] <Delano-193048473> In KDE I just killed Plasma and now my bars are gone... how do I reactivate?
[14:15] <sjd> epinky: what to do now? How do I get esound up? just install from synaptic?
[14:16] <epinky> epinky: if you have volume bars running then it's not a problem of drivers anyway
[14:16] <purvesh> Brandano, In ubuntu there is any software like .. remote connectivity like TeamViewer, that we can share files and other things?
[14:16] <epinky> sjd:  if you have volume bars running then it's not a problem of drivers anyway
[14:16] <sjd> epinky: so? what do you suggest?
[14:16] <MikeChelen> purvesh: remote desktop with VNC is built in
[14:16] <epinky> sjd:  something must be muted
[14:17] <sjd> epinky: tried everything
[14:17] <Brandano> purvesh: no idea what teamviewer is. there's several remote connectivity tools. The terminal sever client, the remote desktop tool, ... SSH!
[14:17] <purvesh> MikeChelen, so in that i can connect to my friend pc ?
[14:17] <yacc> I wondered if the initrd of Karmic can handle multiple encrypted volumes? (I'd need to add a new PV to my LVM)
[14:17] <MikeChelen> purvesh: yes, if your friend is also running ubuntu :)
[14:17] <epinky> sjd: "sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer"
[14:18] <sjd> epinky: i can get sound in the Jack
[14:18] <sjd> epinky: i used gnome-alsamixer. all volumes are high
[14:18] <purvesh> MikeChelen, so .. i can also.. se his Desktop screen?
[14:19] <sjd> epinky: ?
[14:19] <sjd> epinky: :(
[14:19] <epinky> sjd: play with gnome-alsamixer and gnome-volmanager, there is a new "per application" section
[14:19] <MikeChelen> purvesh: yup that is what it does, enable it in system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[14:20] <deserteagle> anyone know why Firefox launches nautilus to "Open Containing Folder" even though I told it to use something else?