[00:00] <Jordan_U> wawowe: No you don't, you can directly upgrade from one LTS release to the next.
[00:00] <vagtastic> wawowe cat /etc/issue => Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[00:00] <wawowe> nvm then
[00:00] <wawowe> vagtastic: either way upgrade again
[00:01] <wawowe> dist-upgrade
[00:01] <vagtastic> I tried a dist-upgrade but nothing =/
[00:02] <vagtastic> Is there a 32bit kernel for pae that is 3.2.0 ?
[00:02] <wawowe> vagtastic: i'm running 32bit pae 3.2
[00:02] <einfeldt> hi, how do I resize windows in Firefox under Unity in 12.04?  thx in advance.
[00:02] <vagtastic> wawowe hmmm
[00:03] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  windows in firefox?
[00:03] <wawowe> vagtastic: does apt-get say anything about it?
[00:03] <stef1a> anybody know why ubuntu 12.04 isn't allowing me to change the brightness on my laptop? http://i.imgur.com/h3Ve6.png
[00:03] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, by windows I mean the Firefox windows
[00:03] <vagtastic> wawowe yeah I was just about to take a look at that.
[00:03] <escott> stef1a, likely an acpi issue
[00:04] <TomatoKetchup> stef1a, what laptop?
[00:04] <genii-around> !info linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:04] <TheTrash> Is there an ncurses tool in Ubuntu server that assists in setting up disks, RAID, etc? I.e., is the disk setup thingy from the installer available as an app afterwards?
[00:05] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust: I am trying to navigate between windows on 10.04.  I clicked on the box to maximize the Firefox window, and now I can't make it small again
[00:05] <OkonX> wawowe: Hey, I updated everything and my system is perfect!!!
[00:06] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  try double clicing on the window's top bar
[00:06] <MonkeyDust> clicking*
[00:06] <vagtastic> wawowe what is your kernel name uname -a
[00:07] <wawowe> vagtastic: 3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:07] <vagtastic> wawowe and that is 32 bit?
[00:07] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust:  thx, all I had to do was move the mouse over the top bar, and the options for minimize, maximize, etc appeared.
[00:07] <wawowe> vagtastic: Linux buttface 3.2.0-24-generic-pae #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 10:47:59 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[00:08] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, today is my very first time using 12.04, and I installed it on a computer that I am giving to someone
[00:08] <vagtastic> wawowe I am only seesing this  sudo apt-cache search linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:08] <vagtastic> linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae - Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[00:08] <genii-around> Would it make sense to even have an x86_64 bit pae kernel ?
[00:09] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, I volunteer with Partimus.org.  We put Ubuntu GNU-Linux machines in public schools.
[00:09] <wawowe> vagtastic: it'll install the x86 kernel
[00:09] <genii-around> vagtastic: Yes. 64 bit there not referring to what arch the package is, the x86 is
[00:09] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, I am a relatively simple end user.  My role in the org is to handhold the newbies.
[00:10] <vagtastic> wawowe genii-around so I should just install it?
[00:10] <wawowe> vagtastic: yea
[00:10] <vagtastic> kk
[00:11] <genii-around> vagtastic: Yes. You could do like : sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae:I386  if you want to specify
[00:11] <vagtastic> Ill do that
[00:11] <vagtastic> thx
[00:12] <stef1a> TomatoKetchup: HP ProBook 4545s
[00:12] <stef1a> escott: i've edited my grub config file -- it hasn't helped
[00:17] <stef1a> i will ask again: anybody know why ubuntu 12.04 isn't allowing me to change the brightness on my laptop? http://i.imgur.com/h3Ve6.png
[00:17] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[00:17] <stef1a> i've tried editing my grub config file and adding the acpi linux and vendor lines -- it doesn't work
[00:18] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  offtopic: I put a link to Partimus on my (very basic) linux 'portal'
[00:19] <chrislu5tic> Hi there, I'm having a problem with winff,  wont seem to convert my ogv  files
[00:19] <chrislu5tic> (winff:4188): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_file_chooser_get_filename: assertion `GTK_IS_FILE_CHOOSER (chooser)' failed
[00:19] <chrislu5tic> any suggestions?  or other methods i can use
[00:20] <The_Explorer> Cpu Schedualing/IO: Is it a good idea to change everything to "round robin" on an 8 core cpu? I ask because 7z is lagging and only useing one core.
[00:20] <BobMarley> do you know how to use the command:: grep -r -i serach_word *   , to look just in the files that end with .s or/and .c or/and .h etc, etc
[00:21] <escott> BobMarley, use find. find -iname *.s -exec grep -i search {} \;
[00:23] <BA707> Hello All...   Is there any way to get ahold of the 'snd-rtctimer' kernel module (for use with Rosegarden (under Ubu 10.04 LTS), short of recompiling the whole kernel ?
[00:24] <BobMarley> escott, thanks but how to put that collored? and to show also in which file it was found? like using just the grep option
[00:25] <escott> BobMarley, grep -H you might also want -n
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> BA707  technically, that question can be asked here, but better as in #ubuntustudio, as it is more music oriented
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[00:25] <escott> BobMarley, and for colors --color=always
[00:25] <wawowe> BA707: make M=snd-rtctimer
[00:25] <BA707> MonkeyDust: Thanks..  I'll go there...  They can probably answer a few of my other audio related ?'s..  ttfn
[00:26] <i7c_> to use gnome on Ubuntu 12.04... do i only have to install gnome-shell or what do i have to do?
[00:26] <BA707> wawowe:  And Thank you ONCE AGAIN...  :)
[00:26] <escott> i7c_, thats all you have to do
[00:26] <i7c_> escott: thx :)
[00:27] <Jordan_U> !notunity | i7c_
[00:27] <jagginess> i7c, of course when you go on the logon screen, you click the 'gear' icon to select your desktop type
[00:28] <jagginess> or i7c_
[00:28] <i7c_> Jordan_U: but gnome-panel (gnome 2) is not supported on 12.04 anymore, is it?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> i7c_: gnome-panel is not gnome2, it's a fallback for GNOME shell which is similar to GNOME2's old shell with panels.
[00:30] <DavidH2> im having problems with the tool bar in libreoffice and lo_menubar didnt help/ also my systray isnt working.
[00:30] <i7c_> Jordan_U: ok. but only because it's fallback does not mean it's bad to use it, right? :D
[00:31] <Jordan_U> i7c_: I think it's fine to use, though you may prefer XFCE for a GNOME2 like experience.
[00:31] <EliahKagan> i7c_: fallback means that if your 3D graphics acceleration is broken and you can't use GNOME Shell, it will function as the *fallback* -- the "fallback" doesn't mean anything good or bad about it
[00:31] <i7c_> kk, thx to you!
[00:32] <chrislu5tic> when trying to convert .ogv to mpeg using winff it says this
[00:32] <chrislu5tic> http://pastebin.com/JK7tBuAL
[00:32] <EliahKagan> on systems that use GNOME Shell instead of Unity (like Fedora), GNOME Fallback will run automatically if GNOME Shell cannot work due to graphics issues
[00:32] <quidnunc> I have a package that has a newer version available that isn't being upgraded. What gives??
[00:32] <TheTrash> I can't believe partman wasn't made available as a general purpose tool in Ubuntu server.
[00:32] <quidnunc> apt-cache policy shows old and new version with same priority
[00:33] <K1rk> I think a lot of you will appreciate this image:  https://goput.it/191.jpg
[00:33] <EliahKagan> chrislu5tic, how much free space do you have on whatever partition contains /home? also, what's the output of: ls -al /home/lu5tic/.winff
[00:34] <EliahKagan> also, the output of: ls -ald /home/lu5tic/.winff
[00:34] <BobMarley> escott, thank you again for the help, but do i look in multiple file type extensions instead as it is in the following command looking just in the .h files, i want to look also at the same time in the .s files? find  -iname *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i ASM_GLOBAL {} \;
[00:36] <acolyte> Does anyone know of a music player that can list your library by Folder Structure?
[00:36] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, off topic: thx so much for that link!  Can you paste a copy of the link?  Thx either way.  You can also reach me at einfeldt at gmail dot com
[00:36] <escott> BobMarley, -iname a -or -iname b
[00:37] <DavidH2> !systray
[00:38] <jagginess> acolyte, maybe songbird
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  mind if I paste in your pv ?
[00:38] <jagginess> (but its probably available in ppa)
[00:38] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, sorry, what is pv?
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  private window
[00:40] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, sure, please go ahead and paste.   :-)
[00:40] <acolyte192> Sorry, my client crashed. I will try it, thanks! :)
[00:42] <dejahnue> acolyte, xmms can show you a list of folders
[00:43] <BobMarley> escott, thank you again but with or i can just look in one tile type extention, but i want in both of them at the same time, i have used the command find -iname *.s  -iname *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i setcodeselector {} \;
[00:43] <BobMarley>       , but it is not working
[00:43] <escott> BobMarley, -iname a -or -iname b
[00:43] <trism> BobMarley: you may need parens to get it working: \( -iname a -o -iname b \) then the rest of your arguments
[00:44] <BobMarley> escott, but with or it looks just in one wile extention, not in both of them at the same tine
[00:44] <BobMarley> time*
[00:44] <escott> BobMarley, -iname a   READ THIS BIT -or DID YOU SEE IT? -iname b
[00:45] <Myrth> hi, i have a clean installation of 12.04 and php5 package installed. I need pdo-mysql but phpinfo() says PDO drivers "no value". in extensions folder there's only pdo.so, which came with php5 package. aptitude search pdo doesn't give any relevant results. please help, thanks
[00:45] <dejahnue> very strange. I just discovered my irc client requesting a whois of someone I'd never heard of before
[00:46] <Harris> anyone have the drivers for hp keyboard
[00:47] <dejahnue> how safe is it to use xchat (the latest) while being here?
[00:48] <jagginess> dejahnue, being where?
[00:48] <dejahnue> on this channel
[00:48] <jagginess> dejahnue, dangerous.
[00:48] <kill> :)))
[00:49] <dejahnue> that's what I was afraid of
[00:49] <kill> be carefull u can go in jail:D
[00:49] <jagginess> ^. serial killer on the loose.
[00:49] <Harris> anyone have the drivers for hp keyboard
[00:49] <dejahnue> very strange. I just discovered my irc client requesting it's own whois of someone I'd never heard of before
[00:50] <jagginess> dejahnue, maybe your mouse is double clicking instead of single clicking..
[00:50] <jagginess> (maybe its that killer)
[00:51] <kill> where are u from guys ?
[00:51]  * jagginess hides
[00:51] <dejahnue> it requested a whois of someone named "darkshadows" who isn't even on my screen
[00:52] <escott> dejahnue, its just advertising for the new johnny depp movie. canonical gets paid for each whois
[00:52] <jagginess> dejahnue, did you look behind the screen? maybe it's a real mouse doing something
[00:52] <dejahnue> yeah right
[00:53] <jagginess> dejahnue, i think you found a hidden mascot.. probably an easter egg of some killer sort..
[00:54] <dejahnue> even if that is so, it concerns me deeply to find that someone built it into xchat
[00:54] <BobMarley> escott, -or evaluates just one expession, but i wanted both of them to be evaluated.   i am trying to use the command in this way: find -iname *.s , *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i setcodeselector {} ;
[00:54] <BobMarley> , but it is not working
[00:54] <jagginess> dejahnue, http://www.eeggs.com/tree/10511.html
[00:54] <escott> BobMarley, find . -iname *.txt -or -iname *.sh works just fine on my system
[00:55] <BobMarley> escott, yes it works but as you can read in the man pages it is exclusive, if one is true , the other is false
[00:56] <BobMarley> escott, it also is not working in this fassion: find -iname *.s ,-iname *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i setcodeselector {} ;
[00:57] <escott> BobMarley, "it is exclusive, if one is true, the other is false" i dont get what you are saying there. *.s and *.h cannot both be true at the same time
[00:58] <muelli> BobMarley: ... well. you could as well use smth like -name '*.[ch]'
[00:58] <xisor> hi, i need help finding a program to do what i need it to do
[00:58] <muelli> xisor: apropos
[00:58] <xisor> i need a cpu temperature sensor program, that resides in and can show the temp in the new unity bar on the left
[00:59] <xisor> much like windows app can show temps in the taskbar
[00:59] <xisor> even one that shows the temp on the top bar would be fine
[00:59] <wylde> xisor: lm-sensors and psensor might be useful to you
[00:59] <BobMarley> escott, what i really want is both of them to be true at the same time,
[00:59] <xisor> psensor puts an icon on the top bar, but doesnt show the temp unless i actually open it
[01:00] <xisor> i need to be able to see the cpu temp at all times regardless of what im doing
[01:00] <escott> BobMarley, well i can solve that problem for you very easily just run /bin/false
[01:00] <jamal> hello
[01:00] <wylde> xisor: it can show the cpu temp on the unity bar as well. Just only 1 temp though.
[01:00] <jagginess> xisor, well sensors eh.. conky
[01:00] <escott> BobMarley, a file cannot end in both .s and .h so what do you want
[01:00] <xisor> wylde: how do i make it show the temp?
[01:01] <hkpolitik> 12.04 doesn't seem to be recognizing/utilizing my gpu. how do I install/configure radeon drivers?
[01:01] <jagginess> xisor, conky boy?
[01:01]  * jagginess thinks http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[01:01] <Darael> xisor: Permanent solution, DE-independent but requiring additional hardware, would be to add a small LCD; many are well supported.
[01:01] <Darael> hkpolitik: Have you looked at the "additional drivers" tool?
[01:01] <wylde> in the options I believe, moment I'l have to check. I'm on a thin client atm.
[01:01] <BobMarley> escott, no what i really want is to look for some word that is located in the file extensions that i specify, in my case are .s and .h , both of them at the same time
[01:01] <xisor> Darael: nah i  want a software solution
[01:02] <Darael> xisor: Fair enough, I just thought I'd mention it.
[01:02] <hkpolitik> Darael: yeah, I've ran that program and it didn't seem to find my drivers or recognize them
[01:02] <escott> BobMarley, and im saying. find -iname *.s -or -iname *.h will find all files that end in either .s or .h -exec grep ... will then run grep on those files. if that is not what you want you need to be clearer about how it is not what you want
[01:03] <Darael> BobMarley: Surely not both at the same time, but either?  A file can't match both *.s and *.h, it's impossible.
[01:03] <xisor> wylde: how do i make it show the temp without having to open it?
[01:04] <hkpolitik> does 12.04 still use xorg to configure the vga driver? maybe i need to do something with that
[01:04] <Darael> xisor: If it'll display in the launcher, then add it to the startup apps, and either set it to start minimised (if that's an option in the config) or use devilspie to minimise it.
[01:04] <wylde> xisor: in prefs, "Enable Unity Launcher Counter" I believe
[01:05] <xisor> wylde: i dont have that option
[01:05] <BobMarley> Darael, escott, not a file but files, i have in my directory the aa.s and aa.c  and now i want to look in both of them at the same time if they have the worh "hello"
[01:05] <xisor> wylde: actually nvm, i do, and its checked, and i dont see the temp anywhere in unity still
[01:05] <wylde> xisor: i have ver. <IP_ADDRESS> and it has that opyion
[01:06] <BobMarley> there is that option in the find command:
[01:06] <BobMarley> expr1 , expr2
[01:06] <BobMarley>               List;  both  expr1 and expr2 are always evaluated.  The value of expr1 is discarded; the value of the list is the value of expr2. The comma
[01:06] <BobMarley>               operator can be useful for searching for several different types of thing, but traversing the filesystem hierarchy only once.  The -fprintf
[01:06] <BobMarley>               action can be used to list the various matched items into several different output files.
[01:06] <FloodBot1> BobMarley: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <wylde> xisor: it puts the temp insid the icon on the launcher.
[01:06] <BobMarley> but it is not working
[01:06] <xisor> wylde: i see the icon only, no temperature
[01:06] <muelli> BobMarley: ... well. you could as well use smth like -name '*.[ch]'
[01:06] <BobMarley> -name is just sensitive
[01:06] <escott> BobMarley, you are reading that wrong. the comma operator is to do something like finding a file ending in .h but then getting the path or some other attribute of the file as the output not the filename itself
[01:07] <hkpolitik> where is xorg.conf located?
[01:07] <wylde> xisor: hmmmm, not sure what else to do. I'ts always worked for me. I have the idicator and the icon in the launchbar shows just the cpu temp.
[01:07] <xisor> anyone know where i can find out the safe temperature limit of my cpu/
[01:08] <muelli> hkpolitik: config files are generally located in /etc/. to find files named "xorg.conf" you could use smth like "find /etc/ -name 'xorg.conf'".
[01:09] <muelli> hkpolitik: I for one, don't even have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf anymore (thank's god...) but it'd probably be located/expected there.
[01:09] <BobMarley> xisor, in the intel manual about you cpu
[01:09] <BobMarley> os some webpage
[01:09] <hkpolitik> muelli: thanks!
[01:09] <i7c> how can i configure multiple desktops/workspaces with gnome-shell?
[01:09] <muelli> i7c: you don't. It just works :)
[01:09] <BobMarley> i7c ctrl+shoft+t
[01:09] <escott> BobMarley, you would use the comma operator if you wanted to do something like "find -iname *.s -delete, -iname *.h -print" which would scan the folder ONCE and delete all s files and print all h file
[01:10] <i7c> BobMarley: mhm doesn't have any effect
[01:10] <escott> BobMarley, think of finds "," as begin "; find" but a bit more efficient
[01:10] <Harris> anyone have the drivers for hp keyboard
[01:11] <muelli> Harris: erm. What makes you think that you need a driver?
[01:11] <BobMarley> escott, ???
[01:11] <Harris> muelli,  it is not working
[01:11] <muelli> Harris: how do you know?
[01:11] <Harris> i am trying to use it now
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Harris, this a laptop, and do you have another keyboard to try?
[01:11] <jagginess> Harris, is it usb?
[01:12] <escott> BobMarley, "," is not what you want. its so esoteric i doubt anyone uses it much. in all likelihood you will never in your life encounter a situation where you will want to use ","
[01:12] <Harris> wilee-nilee,  it is a laptop  and no jagginess  yes it is usb
[01:12] <jagginess> Harris, is it an hp laptop? (maybe you need to pass a kernel option)
[01:12] <Harris> jagginess,  yes it is
[01:12] <jane_wayne78> i'm following the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed, in the Create an HVM Guest VM section, when i run "sudo xm create /etc/xen/ubuntu-hvm.cfg" i get a error: Domain ubuntu-hvm does not exist
[01:13] <i7c> well i obviously have 2 workspaces... but i'd like 3x3 ... how to increase the number?
[01:13] <jane_wayne78> any idea?
[01:13] <hkpolitik> is it normal to not have an xorg.conf anymore?
[01:13] <muelli> i7c: you just use them. You get as many workspaces as you use.
[01:13] <hellox> hi
[01:14] <hellox> why my root dir haven't left any space now?
[01:14] <BobMarley> escott, so how is there at the horizon some solution for my problme
[01:14] <jagginess> Harris, a usb keyboard.. the most problems i've had with usb has to do with laptop usb ports.. sometimes if u change ports or add a usb extender, there makes a difference..
[01:14] <muelli> hkpolitik: yes :)
[01:14] <hellox> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=87
[01:14] <i7c> muelli: got it. but i cant move to the right or left? just up and down?
[01:15] <jagginess> hkpolitik, yes that's normal. Xorg can go without xorg.conf as long as you like what it's using as a default.. (it does autodetection)
[01:15] <Harris> that did not work jagginess
[01:15] <muelli> i7c: correct
[01:15] <escott> BobMarley, "-or" thats how you do what you described. tell me in what way -or is not what you want?
[01:16] <Harris> jagginess,  now it works but on my laptop there are lights next to caps lock which tells me its on
[01:16] <Harris> but
[01:16] <jagginess> Harris, only thing you can try is to update the bios, (and if still fails, try to slightly checkout a pci timer modification with one of the pci commands)
[01:16] <i7c> muelli: meeeeh :(
[01:16] <Harris> when i press caps lock on the usb keyboard
[01:16] <jagginess> Harris, i'm assuming you're trying plaintext as well
[01:16] <jagginess> Harris, you tried plaintext console?
[01:16] <Harris> the light does not go on
[01:17] <Harris> what is plaintext
[01:17] <jagginess> Harris, you type ctl-alt-f7 to come back to gui, plain text is ctl-alt-f1 .. to ctl-alt-f6
[01:17] <BobMarley> escott, the syntax of the or is as decribed in the man pages:  USE THIS FILE EXTENSION -or THIS ONE,   but what i really want is to look in all files that end with .h and .s
[01:17] <hellox> help
[01:18] <Harris> it works but
[01:18] <Harris>  on my laptop there are lights next to caps lock which tells me its on but the light does not go on when i press caps lock on the usb keyboard
[01:18] <BobMarley> escott, and how to exclude some folders from searching?
[01:18] <jagginess> Harris, dunno, maybe look at something related to 'scim' functionality
[01:18] <escott> BobMarley, find -false thats how you search for all files that end in both .h AND .s.
[01:19] <wawowe> BobMarley: it looks at both.. it doesn't just choose at random
[01:20] <bsmith093> how do i fix this, its a binary linux blob i dont have the souce and i tried compiling qt4.7 from source but i dont kno how to check whick version this thing thinks its using symbol lookup error: ./fanficdownloader: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii
[01:20] <muelli> bsmith093: try running ldd on that thing
[01:20] <hellox> wow, help
[01:20] <xisor> what are some programs you guys would reccomend for a linux noob for playing audio and video files, and other everyday things that peple do?
[01:21] <xisor> people
[01:21] <wawowe> hellox: you filled you disk i guess. so that's why it's full
[01:21] <muelli> xisor: totem and rhythmbox.
[01:21] <Harris> what is scim jagginess
[01:21] <Darael> xisor: VLC runs on Linux, is in the Ubuntu repos, may be familiar from Windows, and plays just about everything.
[01:21] <GeoGeek> xisor: VLC
[01:22] <GeoGeek> Darn. Beat me to it.
[01:22] <xisor> Darael: what about web browser? firefox or chrome? firefox seems built in
[01:22] <bsmith093> muelli: http://pastebin.com/4Xe4HSyR
[01:22] <hellox> wawowe dude, i haven't did that:(
[01:22] <wawowe> hellox: did it suddenly fill by itself?
[01:22] <hellox> wawowe how to know the problem why my disk is full:(
[01:23] <Darael> xisor: I use a mix of Firefox and chromium (the unbranded, open-source version of Chrome; it's in the repos, Chrome requires a download from Google).  I also occasionally use Opera, Epiphany, elinks...
[01:23] <hellox> wawowe  i am not sure:( but i use tar xf to extrat a large file days ago:(
[01:23] <xisor> Darael: any difference id notice between chrome or chromium in terms of features, addons etc?
[01:23] <muelli> bsmith093: hm. the linker finds all necessary libraries...
[01:24] <bsmith093> muelli: i recently found out qt was overhauled, and im thinking that might be the issue
[01:24] <wawowe> hellox: find / -exec du -h {} \; | grep G
[01:24] <Darael> xisor: The default colour-scheme is different?  It uses your system codecs and flash-player rather than built-in ones, too.  No differences you should really notice, therefore, except the better default colour scheme and logo :P
[01:24] <muelli> bsmith093: what is the exact output when you run it?
[01:24] <xisor> Darael: is java already installed with ubuntu?
[01:24] <xisor> Darael: if not, how do i go about getting it?
[01:25] <escott> hellox, wawowe, find -size would be a LOT faster
[01:25] <bsmith093> muelli: this ben@ben-laptop:~/Desktop/Ben's Stuff/Fanfiction$ ./fanficdownloader  ./fanficdownloader: symbol lookup error: ./fanficdownloader: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii
[01:25] <OerHeks> OpenJDK is just fine for me
[01:25] <Darael> !java | xisor
[01:25] <xisor> Darael: and..... what do i grab for java to work in firefox and chromium? :P
[01:26] <muelli> weird bsmith093. But it's C++. That's too quirky anyway. Nobody wants to actually deal with that.. sorry, no idea.
[01:26] <Darael> xisor: The link should help, but as I recall it's something to do with openJDK?  I forget, and I'm not on my Ubuntu machine right now.
[01:26] <xisor> Darael: will openjdk do 100% of the same things the same way oracles java will?
[01:27] <xisor> Darael: arent 99.9% of all things made for java made with oracles java in mind?
[01:27] <raptor67682> how to add a rss reader to ELINKS?
[01:27] <wawowe> hellox, escott find / -size 1G -or -size 2G -or -size 3G -exec du -h {} \;
[01:27] <escott> xisor, oracle is switching to basing their next release on openjdk so it should be really really close
[01:28] <Darael> xisor: OpenJDK was based on code released by Sun, IIRC.  In any case, best bet is to just install the default-jre package, which will pull in something appropriate as a dependency.  Besides, <what escott said>.
[01:28] <xisor> ok then
[01:28] <xisor> anything else i need to install to get the best experience possible out of ubuntu?
[01:28] <zykotick9> raptor67682: are you looking for a console rss reader?  canto is one option.
[01:28] <escott> wawowe, hellox -size +1G
[01:28] <xisor> while im grabbing stuff
[01:29] <VDZ> Hmmm...I made a bit of a silly mistake. I reinstalled my server (twice, first installation had severe issues), but forgot to backup my database folder. Current disk usage is 4%, was less at previous install
[01:29] <VDZ> Do I still have a chance at recovering my /var/lib/postgresql/8.4, and if so, what tool do you recommend for it?
[01:29] <VDZ> I'm not interested in the other 96% of the disk, everything important is backed up
[01:30] <VDZ> The database itself wasn't all that big
[01:30] <OerHeks> xisor restricted extra's is a metapackage for flash, openjsk & more webtools
[01:30] <xisor> OerHeks: flash already seems to be installed and working by default
[01:30] <Darael> xisor: Much of this stuff can be gotten by installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, or (if you're in such a situation that renders it legal to do so) adding the medibuntu.org repo and installing the non-free-codecs package (which depends on ubuntu-restricted-extras anyway)
[01:31] <Darael> xisor: In that case, you probably checked a box at install time, which will have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras including its dependencies such as a JRE.  Sorted.
[01:31] <i7c> can i config somehow that gnome-shell will switch workspaces on both of my physical displays? right now it only switches on the primary and on the second there is always the same workspace
[01:31] <xisor> Darael: do i need non-free-codecs for vlc to play my files? or no?
[01:31] <zykotick9> xisor: vlc doesn't use external codecs
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> Darael, a install with the 3rd party ticked does not install the restricted-extras. :)
[01:32] <Darael> xisor: You might want to install libdvdcss2 from medibuntu (or there's a shell script somewhere to do it without that repo, I forget which)
[01:32] <Darael> wilee-nilee: I never used it myself.  Teach me not to make assumptions.
[01:32] <xisor> Darael: i dont own an optical drive, let alone a dvd:P
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> Darael, I think you can do it all yourself, lol. :)
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> an assumption on my part of course
[01:34] <xisor> wilee-nilee: how do i have flash installed then if i didnt install either it or the restricted extras?
[01:34] <Darael> wilee-nilee: That was /intended/ to be a "that'll teach me", rather than a request, although I concede that the phrasing was ambiguous.
[01:34] <OerHeks> ah, install synaptic, it isn't default anymore
[01:34] <Darael> xisor: That's that, then.  Still useful to know about :P
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> Darael, I try not to read into stuff, but gosh darn I do it anyway.
[01:35] <xisor> Darael: how do i get screensavers? :P
[01:35] <xisor> Darael: and WHERE do i set them up at?
[01:36] <xisor> Darael: i couldnt find it in the system settings anywhere
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> the walnut sized brain is the culprit I suspect.
[01:36] <Darael> xisor: That's GNOME's fault; they decided that gnome-screensaver wouldn't be anymore.  You'll need to install the xscreensaver package, as I recall.
[01:36] <xisor> Darael: ok
[01:36] <Guest81104> trying to setup backuppc, added backuppc users to sudoers via visudo still doesn't work, anybody have experience with backuppc?
[01:37] <xisor> Darael: got a specific name for the package i need
[01:37] <xisor> nvm
[01:37] <xisor> that WAS the name
[01:37] <xisor> where will i find the config for it?
[01:38] <Endafy> when is Gimp 2.8 going to be in the repos?
[01:38] <Darael> xisor: My memory is that it comes with a config tool, but this is from at least three releases ago, so... I have no idea.  And it may be necessary to do something to get it to work instead of gnome-screensaver.  I forget.
[01:39] <OerHeks> Guest81104, maybe page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC
[01:39] <zykotick9> Endafy: next release probably.  versions aren't typically updated after release (there are some exceptions).  you might check for a PPA
[01:39] <Darael> Endafy: Certainly not until the next release - package major-versions are (for the most part) fixed for a given release.
[01:39] <Endafy> thats retarded
[01:39] <raptor67682> zykotick9: thank you. I have to try to know if canto support <-> elinks
[01:39] <Endafy> I have to wait 6 effin months for an updated gimp?
[01:40] <bosco_> ok i am having trouble connecting my hdmi from my laptop to my tv wont show any picture just goes black for a min on my laptop i am in catalyst control on my laptop?
[01:40] <bosco_> any help??
[01:40] <Darael> Endafy: Not really.  The point of a stable release is that it's stable.  You want rolling-release, use a rolling-release distro or PPAs for the packages you want updates for.
[01:40] <Endafy> but 2.8 is stabl;e
[01:40] <zykotick9> raptor67682: sorry, i'm unclear why your looking for elinks and rss feeds.  I doubt canto-elinks talk to one another...  good luck.
[01:40] <xisor> Darael: it has a huge list of screensavers but most of them say not available
[01:40] <xisor> Darael: the extras packages it specifies, dont exist
[01:40] <Endafy> its been stable for a while
[01:40] <Darael> Endafy: Stable doesn't just mean it runs without crashing, it means things don't change from under people's feet.
[01:40] <Code_Factory> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with thunderbird can someone help me?
[01:40] <Endafy> it runs without crashing here
[01:41] <Guest81104> OerHerks thanks but I followed the instructions on that page
[01:41] <awakecoding> hi, I'm looking for instructions on how to set up the FreeIPA server on ubuntu
[01:41] <wawowe> bosco_: turn on dual displays in that control panel
[01:41] <Darael> xisor: Try the xscreensaver-gl and xscreensaver-gl-extra packages?  Just a guess.
[01:41] <bosco_> wawowe, ok i have done that i think just to make sure tell me again how to do that?
[01:41] <SirCmpwn> I have ubuntu server up and running and I'm trying to enable mod_rewrite on apache 2.2
[01:41] <einfeldt> Hi, before Unity, it was possible to get to the desktop with a click of the button.  Is there a similar option in Unity for Ubuntu 12.04? Thx in advance
[01:41] <muelli> !anyone | Code_Factory
[01:41] <SirCmpwn> I found rewrite.load in mods-enabled, but running it give permission denied
[01:42] <SirCmpwn> running as root, I mean
[01:42] <muelli> !details | SirCmpwn
[01:42] <xisor> Darael: they renamed the packages and the app gives old names lol
[01:42] <Code_Factory> muelli ?
[01:42] <xisor> Darael: is that something i can bug report to whoever makes it?   And for most people, programs changing *all* the *cursed* *time* is a pain, so they're left stable for a given release.
[01:43] <Darael> ...Oh.
[01:44] <Code_Factory> muelli : how do I know what?
[01:44] <wawowe> bosco_: can you see your second display listed there?
[01:44] <muelli> Code_Factory: that "thunderbird might stop working"
[01:45] <bosco_> wawowe, yes as orion
[01:45] <Code_Factory> muelli: i tried of the terminal, it goes into a loop of warnings! and I can see the process but nothing else happens
[01:45] <muelli> Code_Factory: what have you expected instead?
[01:46] <wawowe> bosco_: and does it actually say something like "no signal" on the other monitor?
[01:46] <Code_Factory> muelli: that the thunderbird window opens and I can check my mail?
[01:46] <ibm> please can someone help me i am trying to upgrade my version of ubuntu without success i tried with the updater tool it did not work so i tried typing in the terminal this sudo do-release-upgrade -d and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo apt-get update without success i do not now what to do now
[01:46] <muelli> Code_Factory: and what warnings do you get? can you pastebin them?
[01:46] <bosco_> NO\
[01:47] <bosco_> wawowe, no sorry
[01:47] <wawowe> bosco_: what's on the other screen?
[01:47] <Darael> ibm: Which release are you on, what output did you get from the various commands you tried, and which release are you going for?
[01:47] <Code_Factory> muelli: I'm a rookie with ubuntu but I have them on a file would you like me to paste them in a private chat?
[01:47] <muelli> !pastebin | Code_Factory
[01:47] <ibm> the previous lts version of ubuntu
[01:48] <Code_Factory> !pastebinit
[01:48] <Code_Factory> muelli : I'll try now
[01:48] <muelli> ibm: how do you know that your attempts were not successful?
[01:49] <bosco_> wawowe, just blank hdmi 1
[01:49] <xisor> Darael: what is compiz and do i need it?
[01:49] <wawowe> bosco_: hit ok in the control panel and restart the xserver
[01:50] <wawowe> bosco_: then open a terminal and type DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm
[01:50] <Darael> xisor: It's a window manager, and yes, you definitely need it if you're using Unity, unless you're using Unity 2D.
[01:50] <muelli> or GNOME Shell
[01:50] <xisor> Darael: how do i check?
[01:50] <xisor> Darael: which one im using?
[01:50] <Darael> xisor: Even if you are, removing it would break ubuntu-desktop, which is a pretty-much necessary package for upgrades.
[01:51] <xisor> Darael: so i already have compiz?
[01:51] <muelli> xisor: why would you care about that?
[01:51] <Code_Factory> muelli: something funny started to happen, its opening as if its brand new!! so I will try a restart and come back.. thank you for your support, ttyl
[01:51] <Darael> xisor: If changing workspaces has a sliding animation, you're in unity 3d.  And yes, it's part of the default install.
[01:51] <xisor> muelli: i just didnt know what it was
[01:51] <ibm> because i get information that it is canceling the upgrade and it takes about only one minute
[01:51] <xisor> Darael: yes it does
[01:51] <muelli> xisor: you can check packages.ubuntu.com for descriptions. Or "apt-cache show $package" on the terminal.
[01:51] <xisor> Darael: can i change the effects and stuff?
[01:52] <bosco_> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0.1 wawowe
[01:52] <muelli> ibm: can you provide us details? I.e. what is the terminal output, does it print anything on the screen, ...? There must be a reason as to why it fails...
[01:52] <Darael> xisor: For all the interesting things compiz can do, look at the compizconfig-settings-manager package and run ccsm.  Get more compiz plugins with the compiz-plugins-* packages.
[01:52] <wawowe> bosco_: did you restart X?
[01:52] <xisor> Darael: ok ill look it up :D
[01:52] <xisor> Darael: ty
[01:53] <xisor> Darael: im gonna install kubuntu-desktop and see what kde looks like
[01:53] <ibm> muelli how do i pastebin the easiest way
[01:53] <xisor> Darael: i can switch back and forth anytime at the login screen right?
[01:53] <muelli> !pastebinit | ibm
[01:53] <Anger_On_Ubuntu> ?
[01:54] <Darael> xisor: Yes, you can.  Lovely and easy.
[01:54] <xisor> Darael: cool, what other desktops are there that i can try?
[01:54] <jane_wayne78> anyone know what is the problem with 'error: domain 'ubuntu' does not exist' mean? i'm trying to install ubuntu desktop as a hvm guest os on xen
[01:54] <jane_wayne78> (following instructions from ubuntu's own site)
[01:54] <muelli> xisor: GNOME 3
[01:55] <xisor> muelli: isnt that what im already on with ubuntu?
[01:55] <Anger_On_Ubuntu> I think so
[01:55] <synack_> hey guys, i installed lunbuntu and there are some features from unity i would like to use , such as the snap to left or right with "super" arrow keys
[01:55] <muelli> xisor: nope. Likely not.
[01:55] <xisor> muelli: whaats the package name for the gnome 3 desktop?
[01:55] <Darael> xisor: gnome-shell, the default shell for gnome3.  LXDE.
[01:55] <synack_> do i need to upgrade the entire WM?
[01:55] <synack_> just to get that feature?
[01:55] <muelli> xisor: I think just "gnome".
[01:56] <synack_> also I am not loving the alt-tab interface that came with the WM in xubuntu
[01:56] <xisor> so i can sudo apt-get install gnome and then gnome will be a choice at the login menu?
[01:56] <Darael> xisor: Enlightenment (e17).  XFCE.  Any of the minimal window managers (fluxbox, openbox...).
[01:56] <synack_> i meant to say xubuntu, that is what i am using
[01:56] <muelli> xisor: yes :) Or click the link down there: http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[01:56] <xisor> Darael: whats the package name for enlightenment?
[01:56] <Darael> muelli: The ubuntu default is Gnome 3, but not gnome-shell.
[01:56] <muelli> Darael: wrong
[01:56] <Darael> xisor: e17.  And for Gnome 3, you want gnome-shell.
[01:57] <xisor> Darael: muelli yhou guys are confusing me now!
[01:57] <xisor> Darael: ok
[01:57] <Code_Factory> muelli: now thunderbird starts but as if the first time, I just remembered that I ran some updates today.. I think this is a profile issue, you think you can help me a bit?
[01:57] <ibm> muelli it is half in english and the other half in swedish but i think you will understand anyway i hope http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010578/
[01:57] <Darael> muelli: Pray tell how?
[01:57] <xisor> Darael:  and my programs and settings will be preserved even when i switch back and forth?
[01:58] <Darael> xisor: Yup, although I don't know how it handles default programs.  Some defaults may be different in different DEs, depending on the mechanism used.
[01:58] <muelli> Code_Factory: potentially. What does ls -l ~/.thunderbird/ tell you?
[01:58] <xisor> Darael: i have a configuring KDM thing in my terminal now.... what options do i choose?
[01:58] <xisor> kdm or lightdm?
[01:58] <muelli> ibm: if you run "export LC_ALL=C" before you run programs, you will get neat, english output.
[01:58] <Darael> xisor: I would stick with lightdm, especially if you're only trying out KDE.
[01:58] <Code_Factory> !pastebin
[01:58] <xisor> Darael: whats the difference?
[01:59] <Code_Factory> muelli : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010580/
[01:59] <Darael> xisor: Different programs, different GUI toolkits, different projects.
[01:59] <xisor> Darael: does kubuntu use lightdm by default as well?
[01:59] <Darael> muelli: It's interesting that you say that Unity is not GNOME 3, because:
[01:59] <Darael> !gnome3
[01:59] <Darael> muelli: ...the bot says otherwise.
[02:00] <muelli> Code_Factory: so there is one profile only. Check whether the profiles.ini actually lists that profile.
[02:00] <Darael> xisor: Nope, it uses kdm by default, hence it installing kdm, hence the popup.
[02:00] <Code_Factory> muelli: wow you're pretty popular here.. you're putting down fires everywhere, I wish I can help
[02:00] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:00] <xisor> Darael: if i switch to kdm as the default will unity stop working if i switch back over?
[02:00] <muelli> ibm: hm. There is something wrong with "ubuntu-desktop". Maybe try to "apt-get install" it first..
[02:01] <Code_Factory> muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010584/
[02:01] <Darael> xisor: No, it won't, but there's no real reason to switch, especially if you think it won't be permanent.
[02:01] <xisor> Darael: im not sure if itll be permanent or not until i try it
[02:01] <xisor> Darael: can i change it later?
[02:01] <ibm> muelli i tried reinstall it without success to
[02:01] <muelli> Code_Factory: so that's the only profile.. Did you have another one..?
[02:01] <sparkybluefox> .
[02:01] <Darael> xisor: Yes... but I don't remember how!
[02:02] <Code_Factory> muelli: nope.. but it seems like its got the right stuff in it.. how can I make it work again?
[02:02] <Anger_On> Howdy all
[02:02] <sparkybluefox> I'm. I'm just hanging in here to learn something.
[02:02] <Anger_On> Same here. Hanging to learn something new
[02:03] <ibm> muelli i tried reinstall it ubuntu-desktop without success
[02:03] <muelli> Darael: well. Unity GNOME 3 uses GTK+-3, but that's basically about it. cf. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libunity-misc4 or the other unity packages. And GNOME 3 is of course the desktop including the shell. Using the libraries doesn't qualify as "GNOME 3".
[02:03] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:03] <sparkybluefox> Welcome Anger_On
[02:03] <muelli> ibm: how do you know that it's without success?
[02:03] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:04] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:04] <muelli> Code_Factory: I don't understand. Did it work before? (if it did, you must have had a profile...)
[02:04] <Darael> muelli: GNOME is more than the shell, though, isn't it?  It's all the applications and libraries that go with it.  The major difference in Unity is the shell (and hence the WM), but all the apps are GNOME ones - not just GTK, mind, but GNOME-project.  It even uses gnome-control-center.
[02:05] <Code_Factory> muelli : it worked this morning!! I had almost 6 accounts setup and 4 calednars
[02:05] <ibm> muelli i tried to type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <muelli> Darael: correct. Although Ubuntu uses to madly patch those things.
[02:05] <muelli> ibm: and can you pastebin the output...?
[02:05]  * sparkybluefox goes to sleep....nighty nite
[02:05] <rockets> My mouse cursor is huge, after switching to high contrast and back to the standard DMZ cursor
[02:05] <Darael> muelli: True.  But that's the case even if you run gnome-shell on Ubuntu.  It's still the Ubuntu versions, which may be patched.
[02:05] <rockets> none of the things I google seem to work or do anything
[02:06] <muelli> Code_Factory: hm. are you sure that you used the very same user and not, i.e. root via sudo?
[02:06] <xisor> heres a probably stupid question... why so many different distros of linux?
[02:06] <Anger_On> I have recently installed Lubuntu Netbook. I later installed gnome gnome-panel and gnome-shell. I dont have a theme for for the gnome panels... any ideas out there for how to get that piece functional?
[02:06] <rockets> xisor, yes, that is
[02:06] <Code_Factory> muelli : no, but while i'm trying to get it to start I tried a sudo :s was that a mistake?
[02:07] <muelli> Code_Factory: maybe.. You might have run thunderbird as root... Can you pastebin a "sudo ls -la ~root/.thunderbird/" for us?
[02:08] <Code_Factory> muelli : ls: cannot access /root/.thunderbird/: No such file or directory
[02:08] <einfeldt> Does anyone know how I edit my Ubuntu forum profile? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=428457  thx in advance
[02:08] <zykotick9> !gksudo | Code_Factory
[02:08] <muelli> Code_Factory: hm. that is good. Sorry, I don't know then. It's weird.
[02:09] <wawowe> xisor: linux is just the kernel. the distros are gnu/linux configurations with different designs and goals
[02:09] <xisor> wawowe: im not sure i understand at all
[02:09] <Code_Factory> muelli : us?
[02:09] <Code_Factory> muelli :  well thank you very very much
[02:09] <Code_Factory> !gksudo
[02:09] <Anger_On> I have recently installed Lubuntu Netbook. I later installed gnome gnome-panel and gnome-shell. I dont have a theme for for the gnome panels... any ideas out there for how to get that piece functional?
[02:10] <muelli> Code_Factory: I can't really believe that a fully working profile just got los. You must have deleted it...
[02:10] <ibm> muelli ok but how do i get in english only
[02:10] <ibm> muelli ok but how do i get in english only
[02:10] <wawowe> xisor: the kernel is the center of the universe and the software is everything else
[02:10] <muelli> ibm: open a terminal and before you do anything, type "export LC_ALL=C"
[02:10] <Code_Factory> muelli : haven't touched it, can you tell me how I can check what updates I ran today?
[02:10] <ibm> muelli ok i try it now
[02:11] <muelli> Code_Factory: sure, but updates are unlikely to affect that... You have a log in /var/log/dpkg.log or the like.
[02:11] <escott> xisor, they all have different target groups. redhat is targeted towards corporations, ubuntu towards desktop users, debian is general purpose but has a strong focus on freedom and open source so things like mp3 playback are not standard, android is technically linux but very different from the others
[02:11] <muelli> Code_Factory: maybe you played around and configured your thunderbird as guest...
[02:11] <wawowe> xisor: not everyone likes jupitor
[02:11] <Code_Factory> muelli: thnx I'm Alex from Egypt
[02:11] <Code_Factory> muelli: no I didn't changed anything for a month now, only ubuntu updates
[02:12] <Anger_On> I have recently installed Lubuntu Netbook. I later installed gnome gnome-panel and gnome-shell. I dont have a theme for for the gnome panels... any ideas out there for how to get that piece functional?
[02:12] <xisor> wawowe: ive heard of one called gentoo too and someone told me i shouldnt even bother trying until i know linux very very well
[02:12] <muelli> O_o so are you telling me that your thunderbird worked for a month and now it lost your profile all of a sudden..?
[02:12] <xisor> escott: too sorry lol
[02:12] <Code_Factory> muelli:  I uninstalled qt
[02:13] <muelli> xisor: heh. I started to use GNU/Linux by installing gentoo :) It was worth it I'd say.
[02:13] <wawowe> xisor: a lot of people get to know linux very well in the first place by using something like gentoo
[02:13] <escott> xisor, gentoo and slackware are historically for hobbyists who want to know everything in and out, front to back, down to the smallest details. so not for a new user
[02:13] <xisor> muelli: is it harder to use than others or something?
[02:13] <Darael> xisor: Gentoo done right is lightning-fast, in general, because it's all compiled for your hardware.  On the other hand, you need to be able to handle the details.
[02:13] <xisor> escott: so i should stick with this to learn with?
[02:13] <muelli> xisor: hihi. well. Let's put it the other way: There is more to learn ;-)
[02:14] <reisio> mmm, Gentoo, my first and my last :D
[02:14] <escott> xisor, the #ubuntu channel says "stick with ubuntu" -- but we might be biased
[02:14] <ibm> muelli it does not work i get only this ibm@ibm-laptop:~$ export LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <ibm> bash: export: `apt-get': not a valid identifier
[02:14] <ibm> bash: export: `ubuntu-desktop': not a valid identifier
[02:14] <ibm> ibm@ibm-laptop:~$
[02:14] <muelli> ibm: sorry. Hit enter after the "export LC_ALL=C"
[02:14] <xisor> muelli: so ubuntu is the best option for me while i get the basics down then?
[02:14] <ibm> muelli ok i try it
[02:15] <muelli> xisor: the best option for you is the one that you're the most comfortable with. I can't tell you what you're comfortable with.
[02:15] <Darael> xisor: I'm going to go against the channel consensus.  Try different things.  As soon as you're happy with Ubuntu, take a look at something else - red-hat family, perhaps, since their packaging system is also large but entirely different from the Debian-family one.
[02:15] <xisor> muelli: all ive ever used is windows
[02:15] <wawowe> xisor: if you want to learn more you have to challenge yourself
[02:15] <Malsasa> Hello, i wanna compile a program from source in Maverick. Anybody can give me suggestion? What application I should compile?
[02:15] <Malsasa> I wanna learn compiling from source.
[02:15] <reisio> xisor: you might want to use Kubuntu then
[02:16] <Darael> Malsasa: GNU Hello?  The most bloated hello-world you've ever seen?
[02:16] <xisor> Darael: what about something i heard of called sabayon? its gentoo with a package manager added on or something
[02:16] <reisio> xisor: IME Windows users prefer KDE
[02:16] <zykotick9> !10.10 | Malsasa
[02:16] <Malsasa> GNU Hello is a program?
[02:16] <reisio> xisor: with binaries :p
[02:16] <muelli> Malsasa: ? you can compile anything, really.. apt-get source $package will get you the source of any package and "dpkg-builddep" (I think) will get you the necessary dependencies.
[02:16] <xisor> reisio: is that bad?
[02:16] <reisio> Malsasa: #friendly-coders
[02:16] <Darael> xisor: That's right, yes.  Sabayon is friendlier for your average user, do give it a go if you fancy a bit of an adventure.
[02:16] <reisio> xisor: no, it's just not a package manager :D Gentoo already has one
[02:16] <Darael> muelli: apt-get build-dep, actually, but kudos for mentioning it.
[02:17] <xisor> Darael: can i use the ubuntu usb loader program on a non ubuntu distro?
[02:17] <ibm> muelli i get it anyway in half english and half swedish what does i do wrong is it normal
[02:17] <reisio> xisor: Sabayon has a pretty streamlined install process, I couldn't speak to maintenance
[02:17] <xisor> Darael: i dont have an optical drive lol
[02:17] <Malsasa> Thank you, but I just wanna use Maverick only for learning. I dont need support.
[02:17] <reisio> xisor: you can use http://unetbootin.sf.net/ on most distros
[02:17] <Darael> xisor: Basically?  No.  Grab unetbootin from the repositories and use that instead.
[02:17] <muelli> hm. ibm. Might not be your fault. Give us the output anyway.
[02:17] <wawowe> xisor: if it's easy you won't get anything from it
[02:17] <zykotick9> Malsasa: using a distro without security is a bad idea
[02:17] <Malsasa> I just ask your suggestion: what application I can compile from source? I am newbie, and i wanna learn. Begin from the easy one.
[02:18] <eph3meral> how do I find out what patches are in a given package? I'm on ubuntu 1.5 and I'm using the ppa recommended by the winehq website.
[02:18] <reisio> Malsasa: why maverick?
[02:18] <xisor> Darael: ok
[02:18] <reisio> eph3meral: patches?
[02:18] <muelli> Malsasa: compile hello, world.
[02:18] <eph3meral> reisio, yep
[02:18] <Malsasa> zyco: Okay, but i plan Maverick will not connected to internet.
[02:18] <xisor> reisio: is sabayon worth trying?
[02:19] <Darael> eph3meral: I have never heard of an Ubuntu version 1.5 - are you sure about that?
[02:19] <reisio> xisor: there's no harm in _trying_ any distro :D
[02:19] <Malsasa> reisio: I use maverick so i can use old gnome.
[02:19] <eph3meral> reisio, this is what my instructions say
[02:19] <eph3meral> oops
[02:19] <eph3meral> sorry wine 1.5
[02:19] <eph3meral> ubuntu 11.10
[02:19] <eph3meral> Patches Required: http://uz.sns.it/~ranma42/iLoL/spectator-fix-v2/0001-ntdll-Improve-performace-of-heap-allocation-v2.patch http://uz.sns.it/~ranma42/iLoL/spectator-fix-v2/0002-imm32-Avoid-deadlock-when-destroying-thread-data.patch
[02:19] <Darael> xisor: Nearly all distros are worth at least a glance.  Go for it, and come to the dark^WGentoo side.
[02:19] <reisio> Malsasa: a less head-in-the-sand approach would be to try GNOME 3 with Cinnamon, or try Xfce
[02:19] <xisor> reisio: just plug in my usb hard drive and use unetbootin the same way i used the ubuntu usb program?
[02:19] <Malsasa> reisio: i want to get old ubuntu so i can update it little by little
[02:19] <eph3meral> i'm wondering how to tell whether the wine1.5 package has had those patches applied
[02:19] <Anger_On> Would anyone advise/recommend Arch Linux?
[02:20] <reisio> Malsasa: you'll have trouble with that
[02:20] <Malsasa> reisio: i don't want to use gnome 3 or cinnamon, i just want old gnome
[02:20] <muelli> eph3meral: you can apt-get source wine and see for yourself.
[02:20] <eph3meral> it actually looks like ubuntu has 1.5.5 and those patches are for 1.5.4
[02:20] <Malsasa> i wanna instal Mac4Lin
[02:20] <eph3meral> muelli, ok thanks
[02:20] <reisio> Anger_On: if you want rolling release / binaries / less cruft, sure
[02:20] <Malsasa> reisio: trouble on what?
[02:20] <xisor> Darael:  what do you mean the dark side?
[02:20] <Anger_On> less cruft?
[02:20] <reisio> Malsasa: mmm, but that's going to open you up to a lot of trouble
[02:20] <reisio> Anger_On: then Ubuntu, yes indeed
[02:20] <reisio> than*
[02:21] <reisio> Malsasa: maintenance and security will become tedious
[02:21] <Darael> xisor: I said nothing of the sort.  *shifty-eyes*.  Come, join us in the wonderful world of locally-compiled packages.
[02:21] <Malsasa> reisio: can you give me an example of trouble?
[02:21] <xisor> Darael: lol
[02:21] <reisio> Malsasa: you want a specific package but getting it would mean upgrading things that GNOME 2 needs at old versions
[02:21] <xisor> Darael:  kde or gnome? any reccomendation?
[02:21] <eph3meral> xisor, i recommend XFCE personally
[02:21] <reisio> Malsasa: or some kind of privilege escalation exploit is discovered in old GNOME 2 code and you can't update it
[02:22] <eph3meral> xisor, it kind of depends on what you like and what your needs are
[02:22] <reisio> xisor: coming from Windows, I'll say again you'll probably want KDE, but you can try them all simply enough
[02:22] <eph3meral> xisor, KDE looks pretty but doesn't work very well. GNOME just sucks these days. So I use XFCE :)
[02:22] <eph3meral> xisor, plus GNOME3 is really slow, as is Unity
[02:22] <Malsasa> reisio: haha, i just want to learn compiling, i dont care, really dont care with security. I plan no internet connection will be connected to Maverick :D
[02:22] <reisio> GNOME doesn't suck, it was just drastically changed, breaking trust with all its long time users :p
[02:22] <Darael> xisor: KDE's default setup is more Windows-like, GNOME's is good if you want to make a break.  Take yer pick.  I use e, when I can stand the increasing mouse-orientation, and flutter about a bit when I can't, spending most of that time in Unity, in the end.
[02:23] <reisio> Malsasa: I don't see what old GNOME has to do with compiling, but whatever
[02:23] <xubuntu-josh> I have a cr-48 with a multi-touchpad, how do I set it up to right click
[02:23] <reisio> GNOME is more Mac OS like
[02:23] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010606/
[02:23] <Malsasa> Haha, nono... I wanna do compiling app from source in Maverick. Just that.
[02:23] <Hoyt> is it possible to use a mouse from Mac , bluetooth paired perhaps
[02:23] <Darael> Malsasa: And you intend to get any libraries you need... how?  What about versions newer than were ever in Maverick?  This is the problem with using an unsupported release.
[02:23] <muelli> ibm: looks good :) And it's all english, no..?
[02:24] <reisio> xubuntu-josh: by configuring 'synaptics', possibly
[02:24] <Malsasa> reisio: yes, i wanna instal Mac4Lin in Maverick.
[02:24] <muelli> ibm: give us the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop", too.
[02:24] <Anger_On> I have read that both Arch ang Gentoo are great albeit steep steps to take for really learning linux. I am a Windows SysAdmin that moonlights with Linux at home. Would the jump into arch/gentoo be advisable? My only experience so far has been Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Puppy.
[02:24] <xubuntu-josh> reisio: do you mean from a gui or a text file, I tried all of the settings under mouse
[02:24] <eph3meral> muelli, ok cool where does that go? /usr/src only has linux headers
[02:24] <Malsasa> :)
[02:25] <eph3meral> muelli, i just installed the source, all I need to do is find it now
[02:25] <muelli> eph3meral: it goes in your local working directory
[02:25] <bjorkintosh> someone mentioned it the other day, but i can't seem to find it anymore.
[02:25] <reisio> xubuntu-josh: text always works
[02:25] <yggdrasil> is gento still around ?
[02:25] <bjorkintosh> how do i reset the keyboard volume controls to the right device on my laptop?
[02:25] <eph3meral> oh, for real, yeah it does doesn't it :)
[02:25] <Malsasa> darael: hm hm, but i just wanna install maverick-era application. So i ask you to give me example what program i can compile
[02:25] <eph3meral> lol, thx muelli
[02:25] <bjorkintosh> the mute button does the correct thing, but fails to unmute.
[02:25] <Darael> Anger_On: Go for it!  It might be a bit of a shock, but you'll learn, oh how you'll learn.  Then, when you're happy with that, to get to know it all even better, build LFS!
[02:25] <yggdrasil> im still getting used to unity..
[02:26] <yggdrasil> i just inhertied a sick new laptop
[02:26] <yggdrasil> i have vmware workstation running on it, its amazing.
[02:26] <Anger_On> Ah, Linux From Scratch. Sounds great. Thanks fr the pointer!
[02:26] <xisor> Darael: i am downloading sabayon to try it :)
[02:26] <muelli> Malsasa: compile hello, world.
[02:27] <yggdrasil> i would mess with another distro, but i like stuff to towkr.
[02:27] <ibm> muelli yes only this one i tried a couple of time
[02:27] <ibm> muelli yes only this one i tried a couple of time
[02:27] <reisio> bjorkintosh: I forget if there's an X builtin for toggle mute, but you can always map it to alsa/pulse commandline toggle
[02:27] <yggdrasil> uh to work, im missing enough stuff with a full blown ubuntu distro.
[02:27] <muelli> ibm: give us the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop", too.
[02:27] <Malsasa> muelli: i have done it.
[02:27] <bjorkintosh> reisio, how?
[02:27] <eph3meral> muelli, cool, I still have yet to thoroughly run through the packaging guide, I keep starting it and then never getting very far, too much other programming to do
[02:27] <muelli> Malsasa: great. Now you've learnt to compile.
[02:27] <Darael> Anger_On: I would advise getting happy with building software on Linux before doing LFS, mind.  Be that by Gentoo or just compiling the odd package, it doesn't matter, but be sure you know what you're doing.  It's possible to do LFS without having a clue what you're doing, but you learn much less.
[02:28] <Malsasa> I have done it.
[02:28] <eph3meral> muelli, do you happen to know if and or how I can add patches? i see the debian/patches folder
[02:28] <eph3meral> i'm wondering if you know the command to rebuild the package if I add a few patches to that folder
[02:28] <muelli> eph3meral: exactly :) If there is a "series" file, add the name of your patch and put it along the others.
[02:28] <eph3meral> ok great thanks
[02:28] <Malsasa> No, i ever fail and fail compiling program from tarball about 1 year...
[02:28] <muelli> eph3meral: dpkg-buildpackage or debuild.
[02:28] <eph3meral> muelli, ok cool thanks
[02:28] <Malsasa> Now i want to do it again
[02:29] <reisio> bjorkintosh: what's it mapped to now?
[02:29] <muelli> Malsasa: then follow the instructions in the README or INSTALL file more closely.
[02:29] <xisor> Darael: will you be able to help me with any gentoo related issues?
[02:29] <Malsasa> What application i should compile?
[02:29] <ibm> muelli please can you wait i need to reboot ubuntu i have internet problem with the connection i am back soon can you wait
[02:29] <reisio> xisor: you'll want #sabayon
[02:29] <xisor> Darael: im probably not allowed to ask for help for it in a ubuntu room lol
[02:29] <xisor> reisio: ok
[02:29] <muelli> ibm: nah. It's terribly late in my place. There are other knowledgable people in here.
[02:29] <Malsasa> muelli: i have done it many many times
[02:29] <bjorkintosh> reisio, it mutes it correctly
[02:29] <Malsasa> and i have failed
[02:29] <Malsasa> :)
[02:30] <reisio> bjorkintosh: it what
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> but it fails to unmute it.
[02:30] <Darael> xisor: Probably not (I'm going to bed very soon) but ask in /their/ channel, or (since you're grabbing sabayon), better yet, the Sabayon channel.
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> it, being the button on my laptop.
[02:30] <joint> does anybody here use Microsoft?
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> which has the 'mute' symbol on it.
[02:30] <Malsasa> muelli: Give me one example, a tarball easy to compile.
[02:30] <Zebers> Mircosoft is a company...
[02:30] <muelli> Malsasa: then either you haven't done it correctly or the instructinos are bad.
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> it's a dell inspiron 6000 laptop.
[02:30] <xisor> Darael: no i meant later on, since youve been helping me for awhile already
[02:30] <Zebers> call dell
[02:30] <xisor> Darael: not tonight neccesarily
[02:30] <Darael> joint: Microsoft what?  I don't use the company, but I occasionally have to use some of their products.
[02:30] <Malsasa> muelli: a program who dont need many dependencies...
[02:30] <muelli> Malsasa: just do "apt-get source" on anything, really...
[02:30] <xisor> Darael: remember you helped me with my smb shares last night
[02:30] <Zebers> which product specifically
[02:31] <xisor> Darael: where i almost had it working lol
[02:31] <Darael> xisor: Be happy to - but you're still probably better off asking in the Gentoo and Sabayon channels ;)
[02:31] <Malsasa> muelli: yes the answer is i haven't done it correctly
[02:31] <Malsasa> muelly: so i have to do it again :)
[02:31] <reisio> #gentoo doesn't usually like dealing with Sabayon-specific problems
[02:31] <xisor> Darael: can i use the same things i did to my fstab in sabayon for my samba shares?
[02:31] <reisio> until you can distinguish, probably best to stick to #sabayon
[02:31] <wawowe> Malsasa: apt-get install build-essential
[02:32] <muelli> Malsasa: you know what? You'd solve your problem much quicker if you actually told us *what* the problem is.. i.e. error messages or the like...
[02:32] <xisor> reisio: ok ill remember that
[02:32] <Malsasa> wawowe: i have it.
[02:32] <Zebers> Google.com    .....one stop resource!
[02:32] <Malsasa> muelli: my general problems is: no such files or directories
[02:33] <muelli> yeah. that's a very general problem...
[02:33] <Malsasa> wawowe: i have the debs, so i can install it anytime i want. Thank you.
[02:33] <wawowe> Malsasa: wget http://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/evilwm-1.1.0.tar.gz
[02:33] <wawowe> Malsasa: tar xvf evilwm*
[02:33] <Darael> xisor: Probably, although you'll need to install things, of course.
[02:33] <wawowe> Malsasa: cd evilwm*; ./configure && make
[02:33] <Malsasa> wawowe: Thats It! I need an example like what you show to me!
[02:34] <xisor> Darael: ok
[02:34] <Malsasa> wawowe: Thank you, thank you!
[02:34] <Zebers> try backtrack 5... mother of conflicts
[02:34] <xisor> Darael: 64bit sabayon ok to start with or should i grab x86 instead?
[02:34] <Malsasa> wawowe: an example like this i need.
[02:34] <reisio> xisor: 64 if you have a 64-bit proc
[02:34] <xisor> reisio: i dont have any 32 bit cpus left in my house
[02:34] <Malsasa> wawowe: this application needs what dependencies? Sorry i am newbie.
[02:34] <xisor> reisio: and i have ALOT of devices lol
[02:34] <reisio> xisor: :p
[02:34] <wawowe> Malsasa: x11-dev
[02:34] <Darael> xisor: I'm not intimately familiar with Sabayon, but there's rarely a good reason to choose a 32-bit distro over a 64-bit one these days.
[02:34] <xisor> reisio: i think i banned them 6 years ago or so :P
[02:35] <wawowe> Malsasa: apt-get install libx11-dev
[02:35] <Malsasa> wawowe: i have downloaded evilwm.
[02:35] <xisor> Darael: k ty for the help the last few days
[02:35] <xisor> Darael: got one more question.... how do i install it alongside ubuntu without breaking anything?
[02:36] <xisor> Darael: will the sabayon installer be able to do it?
[02:36] <wawowe> Malsasa: actually there's no configure script. so just "make"
[02:36] <Darael> xisor: If it's got a good installer, it should be able to handle that.  If not, ask the sabayon channel folks, 'cos I don't know if their distro needs any odd handling.
[02:36] <Malsasa> wawowe: Hmm, that is the dependency?Only one app?
[02:36] <xisor> Darael: ok
[02:36] <wawowe> Malsasa: it's the perfect window manager imo :)
[02:36] <Zebers> phiscribe ur IP is displayed upon login...
[02:37] <reisio> xisor: if you keep an eye out for not deleting Ubuntu during partitioning, the worst you have to worry about is fixing GRUB afterwards
[02:37] <muelli> Malsasa: why don't you just try for yourself and come back if you do have problems..?
[02:37] <xisor> Darael: ill go ahead and assume the liveDVD install has a working web browser in it so i can get to freenode:P
[02:37] <Malsasa> wawowe: Hm, thanks, thanks...
[02:37] <muelli> O_o I'd use an IRC client for that...
[02:37] <Darael> xisor: Should do.  This being a Gentoo-family distro, it's probably got an IRC client on it, too.  I favour irssi myself.
[02:37] <EliahKagan> xisor: yes, the Ubuntu desktop CD and DVD both have Firefox
[02:37] <xisor> muelli: im on webchat.freenode.net :P seemed the easiest way since freenode is literally the only irc server ill ever connect to
[02:37] <EliahKagan> xisor: if a web interface is what you want to use
[02:37] <phiscribe> arent most peoples shown without jumping thru hoops Zebers?
[02:38] <ibm> muelli ok i am back what do you want me to put in the terminal
[02:38] <Zebers> not from what i c
[02:38] <EliahKagan> xisor: you can also install an IRC client like xchat, inside the live environment
[02:38] <Darael> EliahKagan: We're actually rather offtopic, talking about trying sabayon!
[02:38] <muelli> xisor: well. not a compelling reason to use a webbrowser...
[02:38] <Malsasa> muelli: i have done it for many times and fault at all, this is my  problems :) So i ask now :D
[02:38] <muelli> Malsasa: not a good approach.
[02:38] <EliahKagan> Darael: oh ;-)
[02:38] <muelli> ibm: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <Malsasa> muelli: Yes, it is true.
[02:39] <xisor> is konversation a bad irc client? lol its built in with kde and im getting sabayon with kde
[02:39] <Darael> !best | xisor
[02:39] <reisio> xisor: it's not the most popular, but it'll do
[02:39] <xisor> Darael: how the heck do you know all the bot commands?
[02:39] <Darael> xisor: If it works, use it.  It works.  Personally, I think irssi works better, but I'm a terminal junkie.
[02:39] <reisio> xisor: you won't be forced to use it, of course
[02:39] <ibm> muelli please can you explain you i do that what do i need to type
[02:40] <Darael> xisor: Spending far too long in this channel, of course.
[02:40] <muelli> ibm: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <xisor> Darael: lol
[02:40] <Polak> 'scuse me, is there a french chann for Ubuntu?
[02:40] <ibm> muelli ok thanks
[02:40] <muelli> !fr | Polak
[02:40] <Polak> thx
[02:40] <Darael> muelli: Curses, beaten to it.
[02:40] <xisor> Darael: my first experience with IRC was decades ago, havent been on an irc server in years before yesterday
[02:40] <EliahKagan> Is there a list of ubotto commands I can look at? I feel like sometimes i should use one instead of saying some long thing myself. Is there an ubotto command to list them?
[02:40] <zykotick9> !bot | EliahKagan
[02:41] <EliahKagan> thx zykotick9
[02:41] <Darael> EliahKagan: ...which is to say, no, but there's a webpage.
[02:42] <xisor> they should build ubottu into ubuntu
[02:42] <xisor> like the talking paperclip in old versions of word
[02:42] <xisor> lol
[02:42] <Darael> xisor: Oh, $DEITY.  Please no.
[02:42] <reisio> xisor: obligatory: http://pingvinoff.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Vi_interface.gif
[02:43] <xisor> lmao
[02:43] <xisor> thats amazing
[02:43] <xisor> was that real or fake reisio ?
[02:43] <reisio> xisor: it was fake, wouldn't surprise me if someone's made it real by now
[02:43] <xisor> reisio: its funny tho
[02:43] <reisio> yes :p
[02:43] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010625/
[02:44] <xisor> :D
[02:44] <muelli> hm. looks all good to me. can you do the upgrade thing again, which failed..?
[02:44] <Darael> reisio, xisor:  Dunno about vi, but it's /surely/ been made for emacs by now.
[02:44] <reisio> heh
[02:44] <xHide> my amsn not conect
[02:44] <xHide> whats a problem?
[02:45] <xHide> i fron brazil
[02:45] <xHide> se tiver algum brazuca ae pra me da uma for?a
[02:45] <muelli> !pt | xHide
[02:45] <xHide> ok
[02:45] <xHide> 1 user
[02:46] <xHide> =S
[02:48] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010625/
[02:48] <muelli> ibm: try a normal upgrade using the "do_release_upgrade" or whatever it's called.
[02:49] <ibm> muelli but i already did do you want the output now
[02:49] <xHide> shittt
[02:49] <muelli> ibm: yes. again. in english.
[02:50] <dw2> Ubuntu 12.04 new install: Anyone have any idea why desktop search tracker miners seem to be permanently Idle
[02:50] <dw2> ?
[02:51] <dw2> tracker-control gives
[02:51] <dw2> Found 168 PIDs…
[02:51] <dw2> Found process ID 2151 for 'tracker-miner-fs'
[02:51] <dw2> Found process ID 2168 for 'tracker-store'
[02:51] <dw2> Store:
[02:51] <dw2> 28 May 2012, 03:51:20:  ✓     Store                 - Idle
[02:51] <FloodBot1> dw2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <dw2> Miners:
[02:51] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010636/
[02:52] <Darael> dw2: tracker-miner-fs may have done its mining and be waiting for inotify events from the kernel to tell it when files are changed?  Just a guess.
[02:52] <muelli> hm ibm. What does "sudo find -ls /var/log/dist-upgrade/" give you?
[02:52] <Darael> dw2: Tracker-store would be waiting for something to interact with it, of course.
[02:52] <angeron> howdy
[02:52] <dw2> Darael: thanks, but problem is that it never seems to find any hit if I search by content
[02:53] <Darael> dw2: Not that, then.  Haven't a clue, sorry.  My understanding is that tracker's been buggy for yonks, which always put me off trying to grok it.
[02:53] <dw2> I get the impression that the file content index does not exist and is not being built at all
[02:54] <dw2> darael: do you know of an alternative for fulltext indexing?
[02:54] <dw2> pther than tracker, I mean - on 12.04?
[02:54] <Darael> dw2: 'fraid not.  'Specially for multiple filetypes.  I'm sure there are several if everything's in plain text, but that's no help
[02:55] <dw2> Darael: well even plain text would be a good start?
[02:56] <Darael> dw2: Actually, an axi-cache search turns up both recoll and doodle, which look like they'd do the job.
[02:56] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010640/
[02:56] <dw2> specially since a lot of the stuff I write myself is in latex, which can be indexed as plaintext
[02:56] <muelli> ah, sorry ibm
[02:56] <dw2> Darael: thanks I will look into those too
[02:56] <dw2> those two
[02:56] <muelli> hm ibm. What does "sudo find /var/log/dist-upgrade/ -ls" give you?
[02:56] <Darael> dw2: Those two too, perhaps?
[02:56]  * dw2 nods
[02:57] <dw2> Actually 99% of file content that I want to search for is usually either in plain ASCII text, or pdf
[02:58] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010642/
[02:59] <muelli> ibm:  pastebin us /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:02] <bjorkintosh> i've narrowed the problem down
[03:02] <dw2> Darael: from reading install info I have decided to give Recoll a trial - seems it might do pdf too with some "external helper" - Thanks again
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> here's the thing.. amixer set Master toggle, mutes the sound.
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> but amixer set Master toggle failes to unmute the sound!
[03:03] <Darael> dw2: No probs.  Good luck.
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> what could be the matter?
[03:03] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010646/
[03:03] <joobie> hey guys.. can anyone suggest a good way to get a file from siteA to siteB securely? I don't want to go to the extent of establishing a VPN between both sites - trying to do this with minimal effort but retaining security
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> joobie, sftp.
[03:04] <bjorkintosh> setup your machine as the host.
[03:04] <bjorkintosh> if you can.
[03:04] <joobie> i was thinking about GPG'ing the file and then sending it over email.. not sure if GPG is still considered secure and if so, if it's a good way
[03:04] <muelli> ibm: nah, do smth like pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:04] <bjorkintosh> joobie, first of all, how big is the file?
[03:04] <muelli> joobie: scp
[03:05] <Valvalus> hey ... pretty simple question ... I need to write a VERY basic Java server that accepts connections and maybe writes some files. I have a Ubuntu server. What package(s) do I need to download and what's the best way to get them? sudo apt-get I'm guessing?
[03:05] <joobie> bjorkintosh, few hundred meg
[03:05] <joobie> muelli, SCP requires a SSHD which is too much effort for this project
[03:05] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain
[03:05] <joobie> want to try avoid having to install daemons for this to wokr / servers
[03:05] <lorddelta> snowblower?
[03:05] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain what should i type
[03:05] <jstarcher> can I use rsync to backup the entire  root filesystem if I'm pushing it over the network to a remote server
[03:05] <matthewvz> having a bit of a problem, Used the windows installer, reboot and I reboot ut starts saying "Kernel panic - VFS: Unable to mount root fs on known-block(0,0)" Any help?
[03:05] <bjorkintosh> joobie, do you have sshd on your machine?
[03:06] <bjorkintosh> it takes just a couple of minutes to get that up and running.
[03:06] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set Master unmute
[03:06] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain what should i type
[03:06] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, that changed the icon, but did not unmute it.
[03:06] <bjorkintosh> i think it's a bug.
[03:06] <joobie> bjorkintosh, no SSHD
[03:06] <joobie>  on my machine
[03:07] <bjorkintosh> joobie, if you're running ubuntu, it's incredibly easy to set up.
[03:07] <joobie> bjorkintosh, trying to avoid it
[03:07] <joobie> it's a windows machine at each site, i think
[03:07] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain what should i type
[03:08] <elky> ibm, a. stop repeating. b. he did. The characters after "like"
[03:08] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: can alsamixer unmute it?
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> joobie, never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes speeding down the highway.
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, i don't know how. it just changes the icon from "x" to )).
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> but does not unmute it.
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> joobie, a sneakernet might be necessary :)
[03:09] <ibm> elky i do not understand i am not use to command line
[03:09] <wawowe> ibm: pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:09] <elky> ibm, copy and paste "pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log" (without the ") into the terminal and press enter. then tell us the pastebin links
[03:10] <joobie> sneakernet?
[03:10] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: with alsamixer go to master and hit >
[03:10] <ibm> i deed i think is this not it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010646/
[03:10] <elky> joobie, aka walking.
[03:11] <elky> ibm, you didn't do what I said there
[03:11] <pranjal710> how do i change my screen resolution in ubuntu 10.04??
[03:11] <elky> pranjal710, nvidia?
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> hah.
[03:12] <pranjal710> yup
[03:12] <elky> nvidia-settings
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> that's really odd.
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> it seems on clicking mute, it sets 3 different things to mute.
[03:12] <wawowe> ibm: what's your plan?
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> and only unmutes 1 of them when i click '<'
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> that's annoying.
[03:12] <reisio> ibm: can has some patents?
[03:12] <pranjal710> elky: it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." but when
[03:12] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: don't use toggle
[03:13] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: use mute and unmute
[03:13] <Madpilot> Any other Shuttle xPC users around? I'm trying to figure out if you can get a CPU temp out of the thing...
[03:13] <pranjal710> elky: but when I do as root, it gives an erro
[03:13] <ibm> elky can you please explain explain what i should type
[03:13] <pranjal710> error*
[03:13] <elky> ibm, <elky> ibm, copy and paste "pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log" (without the ") into the terminal and press enter. then tell us the pastebin links
[03:13] <wawowe> ibm: pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:13] <Chorca> having an odd issue on an HP dv2600 laptop.. upon boot of the installer, the screen shows the desktop and then it's covered in green and black blocks, and has serious graphics corruption... it has a nvidia 8400 gs inside I believe.
[03:13] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, same problem.
[03:13] <Chorca> Not sure how to disable compiz in the installer
[03:14] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: mute PCM instead
[03:14] <elky> pranjal710, what's your current kernel?
[03:14] <bjorkintosh> amixer pcm mute?
[03:15] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set PCM mute
[03:15] <bjorkintosh> same problem.
[03:15] <bjorkintosh> i think it's a bug.
[03:16] <bjorkintosh> it mutes correctly.
[03:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> Hello everyone my Cpu is Intel Core i3 2100  @ 3.10GHz with 4 Gb Ram ddr 3 do i nee the 64 or 32 bit of latest ubuntu?
[03:16] <bjorkintosh> but fails to unmute when i ask it to.
[03:16] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:16] <pranjal710> elky: 2.6.32-21-generic
[03:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> need*
[03:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> wich of the 2 i have to choose?
[03:16] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set Master 0%
[03:17] <RBV> Ubuntu_Lover: 64
[03:17] <Ubuntu_Lover> thanks you think with the monster pc i have ubuntu will work like charm RBV ?
[03:17] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set Master 100%
[03:17] <elky> pranjal710, oh, last LTS :-/ i can't remember back that far, sorry
[03:17] <bjorkintosh> i think i'll have to do that.
[03:17] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010655/
[03:18] <IHateHavingToReg> how can i tell from the cmd line if i have a 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu system?
[03:18] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:18] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010655/
[03:18] <bjorkintosh> thanks wawowe
[03:18] <pranjal710> elky: should I upgrade my kernel? Will that solve the problem?
[03:18] <wawowe> IHateHavingToReg: uname -i
[03:18] <elky> pranjal710, you're using Lucid, yes?
[03:18] <IHateHavingToReg> i386 = 32-bit?
[03:18] <pranjal710> yes
[03:19] <pranjal710> elky: yes
[03:19] <wawowe> IHateHavingToReg: yes
[03:19] <IHateHavingToReg> ok thanks
[03:19] <elky> pranjal710, and no, updating just your kernel isn't going to make something available after lucid be available for lucid
[03:19] <Ubuntu_Lover> My curiousity  is how will ubuntu lastest work on  Intel Core i3 2100  @ 3.10GHz 4 Gb Kingstone DDR 3 Mother BoardASUSTeK Computer INC. V6-P8H61ELX (LGA1155) Will i notice super  speed vs Windows 7 ?
[03:20] <elky> hrm, google says it should be available on lucid...
[03:20] <Ubuntu_Lover> as i got a pretty good pc for now days will i notice allot of improvement in speed multi tasking etc vs Windows 7 expecially with Flash and Java based apps?
[03:21] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:21] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:21] <pranjal710> elky: I have used 11.10 and everything worked fine in that version, but when I installed 10.04, and audio just vanished and pc always says "running in low resolution mode"   :(
[03:21] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010655/
[03:21] <FloodBot1> ibm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <Ubuntu_Lover> anyone can answer my question?
[03:21] <elky> pranjal710, well, 10.04 is several versions behind 11.10
[03:22] <xangua> ibm: did you read the message¿
[03:22] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, i3 is not that powerfull
[03:22] <wawowe> ibm: what is your goal?
[03:23] <bjorkintosh> Ubuntu_Lover, depends on what your'e doing doesn't it?
[03:23] <Ubuntu_Lover> well it's a medium good pc for now days i do basic stuff
[03:23] <Ubuntu_Lover> will i notice big difference vs windows 7?
[03:23] <xangua> Ubuntu_Lover: try it and see for yourseld
[03:23] <xangua> yourself
[03:24] <pranjal710> elky: anyways thanks. .. seems I am on my own now
[03:24] <Ubuntu_Lover> ok my other question is i  like use chrome over firefox can i remove firefox from the os ?
[03:24] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, sure
[03:24] <elky> pranjal710, it is LTS, so technically still supported by canonical. just no volunteers around now remembers way back then :)
[03:24] <Ubuntu_Lover> you advise me get i7?
[03:24] <bjorkintosh> Ubuntu_Lover, you can do _anything_ but don't expect everything to be easy.
[03:24] <Ubuntu_Lover> over i3?
[03:24] <bjorkintosh> and you'll be fine.
[03:25] <ibm> wawowe i do not now why muelli does not respond anymore but i have problem to upgrade ubuntu to the last version
[03:25] <Ubuntu_Lover> ok ill go install brb
[03:25] <wawowe> ibm: muelli went to bed
[03:26] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, i don like the intel range with build in GPU
[03:26] <ibm> wawowe can you help me
[03:26] <wawowe> ibm: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <ibm> wawowe can i use gedit to do that i do not have pastebinit
[03:28] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:29] <Ketsueki_K> anyone familiar with SFML here?
[03:30] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010665/
[03:32] <OerHeks> from 7.10 to 8.04 ?
[03:32] <wawowe> ibm: lsb_release
[03:33] <wawowe> ibm: lsb_release -a
[03:33] <wawowe> ibm: lsb_release -r
[03:33] <ibm> wawowe i am not use to command line can please explain should i type only lsb_release -r without sudo
[03:34] <wawowe> ibm: yes, without sudo
[03:35] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010675/
[03:36] <wawowe> ibm: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[03:37] <benwalburn> I installed the kubuntu desktop to check it out. Turns out I hate it. I've been going through and trying to remove all its packages and I want to know if there's a simpler way
[03:38] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010678/
[03:38] <xangua> !puregnome | benwalburn
[03:38] <reisio> benwalburn: and go back to... what?
[03:38] <benwalburn> my wonderful unity of course :)
[03:39] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[03:39] <benwalburn> thank you
[03:40] <dejahnue> benwalburn, just curious, what did you find undesirable about kubuntu?
[03:40] <benwalburn> too windowish
[03:40] <dejahnue> how so?
[03:40] <benwalburn> and I favor Unity's shortcuts
[03:41] <reisio> shortcuts are configurable
[03:41] <dejahnue> it what respects is it too windowish?
[03:41] <reisio> dejahnue: compared to GNOME?
[03:41] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010678/
[03:41] <dejahnue> compared to unity
[03:41] <mangdood> Hi, for some reason, xspim isn't running on either of my computers; it just prints out a font on the terminal and exits with an error code
[03:42] <reisio> dejahnue: "Unity" is mostly GNOME
[03:42] <reisio> and if anything it makes GNOME even _more_ like Mac OS
[03:42] <benwalburn> dejahnue, the "start" menu. I've always hated it in windows, felt wrong. KDE is slightly better, but not quite what I want
[03:43] <mangdood> benwalburn: What do you expect, exactly, if I may ask
[03:43] <dejahnue> you want nothing with the function of a start menu?
[03:43] <wawowe> ibm: sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aqY0HfvB
[03:43] <izzaboo_> reisio, to help with that (using Lubuntu) I moved the panel with the 'start' menu to the top of the screen.
[03:43] <reisio> heh
[03:45] <dejahnue> benwalburn, I think you can get the afterstep window manager, it has an app-dock instead of a start menu
[03:45] <benwalburn> besides being better than windows UI, I expected nothing from KDE. It lived up to that expectation, I just can't imagine using it instead of Unity. I prefer my Dash and HUD, etc
[03:45] <xangua> !ot | benwalburn dejahnue
[03:46] <dejahnue> xangua, it was ubuntu-related. he was talking about why he liked unity better
[03:46] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010681/
[03:46] <xangua> wawowe: how is mixing lucid and precice repositoes helpful¿
[03:46] <izzaboo_> benwalburn, the psychocats pureubuntu pages are more comprehensive imo
[03:46] <benwalburn> dejahnue, afterstep seems interesting...
[03:47] <wawowe> xangua: removed the lucid repo
[03:47] <dejahnue> you can (I think) run afterstep on ubuntu
[03:47] <wawowe> xangua: the plan is to upgrade
[03:47] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010681/
[03:48] <xangua> wawowe: sounds like a bad plan the one you have if by upgrade you mean replace one version repositories by another
[03:48] <benwalburn> alright, I seem to have all the kde stuff gone, thank you everyone
[03:48] <dejahnue> benwalburn, afterstep is just a window manager for X, usable under ubuntu
[03:48] <wawowe> xangua: what's wrong with it? that's how i've always upgraded debian
[03:50] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get update
[03:52] <xangua> ibm: i predict you you will have a very broken desktop thanks to wawowe
[03:53] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010685/
[03:54] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010685/
[03:54] <xangua> ibm: oh gosh please don't keep doing that
[03:55] <stormchas2000> what room would i goto to ask about mupen64plus as i am having problems with several games
[03:55] <reisio> stormchas2000: /msg alis list *mupen*
[03:56] <trism> mangdood: sudo apt-get install xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi; (I also had to restart my xserver after that and then xspim worked), see bug 824084
[03:57] <wawowe> xangua: how would you do it?
[03:58] <xangua> wawowe: i would go back in time and prevent to you to tell it that
[03:58] <stormchas2000> thanks, i should have thought about that
[03:58] <wawowe> xangua: nothing has been done yet :p
[03:59] <wawowe> xangua: after this is the point of no return tho
[03:59] <xangua> wawowe: just replaced it's sources right
[03:59] <wawowe> xangua: what would be right?
[04:01] <ibm> xangua what do you mean has wawowe brook something
[04:03] <wawowe> ibm: no, but xangua is worried that if we continue, it will break
[04:04] <ibm> wawowe did you see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010685/
[04:04] <wawowe> ibm: yes
[04:05] <xangua> ibm: how did you exactly upgrade to lucid in first place¿
[04:06] <ibm> xangua what is lucid witch version do you mean by that
[04:06] <xangua> ibm: the current ubuntu version you use
[04:07] <wawowe> xangua: from the look of the old sources.list, it was done in a similar way
[04:07] <ibm> xangua i just upgraded it with the simple update tool
[04:08] <ircnode0> I tried some amixer commands, but now I can bring sound back after "amixer set Master toggle". Tried toggle command again, but no use. Somebody help me to get sound back?
[04:08] <Harrison> Sup people!
[04:08] <wawowe> ircnode0: use alsamixer
[04:08] <ircnode0> *but no I can't bring sound...
[04:08] <wawowe> ircnode0: and to mute and unmute use: amixer set Master 0%
[04:08] <ircnode0> wawowe: I went there and set master very high
[04:08] <wawowe> ircnode0: amixer set Master 100%
[04:09] <wawowe> ibm: apt-get install screen
[04:09] <gulzar> anyone using httrack? I want download  different-link pages in the same folder. But when 2nd page is downloaded it removes the first.. and 3rd removes 1st and 2nd. Any way to have all the downloaded pages in one folder?
[04:10] <ircnode0> wawowe: tested amixer set Master 100% and went to youtube, but no sound at all
[04:10] <Harrison> everyone try this apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop & lxde & xfce-common & gnome-shell
[04:10] <wawowe> ircnode0: use alsamixer to unmute everything
[04:11] <wawowe> ircnode0: with >
[04:11] <ibm> wawowe should i type that or are asking me how i upgrade it i did not use the command line at all just the simple way with update manager i think it is called why
[04:12] <wawowe> ibm: it's fine, the gui updater does the same stuff
[04:12] <wawowe> ibm: forget about that last command
[04:12] <ircnode0> wawowe: It works thanks man
[04:13] <gulzar> Harrison: why?
[04:13] <wawowe> ibm: try running: screen
[04:14] <ibm> wawowe can i downgrade the update to be maybe able to upgrade then to the last ubuntu version are they something like restore back
[04:15] <ibm> wawowe should i type only screen without sudo
[04:15] <wawowe> without
[04:15] <ibm> wawowe ok i am trying that
[04:15] <sx2020> what are best practices for where to install software in ubutu file system?  such as apps and utilities ?
[04:15] <wawowe> ibm: do you have enough room for a backup?
[04:18] <xangua> (22:48:37) wawowe: xangua: what's wrong with it? that's how i've always upgraded debian - this is not debian, it's ubuntu ibm
[04:18] <wawowe> xangua: ubuntu is debian based
[04:18] <wawowe> xangua: same package manager
[04:19] <wawowe> can upgrade any debian system like this
[04:19] <wawowe> altho sometimes there are complications if you have to upgrade a long way
[04:19] <xangua> wawowe: i don't thin you will suggest upgrade debian woody to squeez by just replacin the release name, would you; you skipping too many releases
[04:19] <phiscribe> sx2020: using the package manger, let it manage it is the best practice, or are you talking about compling your own
[04:20] <wawowe> xangua: this isn't that far
[04:20] <wawowe> xangua: but if it were me i would start just like i suggested, but being prepared to have to fix stuff
[04:20] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010707/
[04:20] <wawowe> xangua: i doubt woody is capable of upgrading any other way
[04:21] <ZombieRamen> i'm having a problem with the temperature on my clock applet displaying as "--" instead of the temperature
[04:21] <phiscribe> i hate upgrading to a new release, i mostly go clean install
[04:21] <xangua> wawowe: how about etch to squeeze, neither sounds like a good idea
[04:21] <wawowe> ibm: hit the spacebar
[04:21] <ZombieRamen> i'm running on clock applet version 2.32.1, and i have my location properly set
[04:22] <ZombieRamen> i've tried restarting the applet and gnome-panel
[04:22] <wawowe> xangua: i've done etch to squeeze just like this actually
[04:22] <wawowe> xangua: and squeeze to lenny
[04:22] <ibm> wawowe i deed i put it in on the same
[04:23] <ibm> wawowe just look more down
[04:24] <wawowe> ibm: apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:24] <wawowe> wait
[04:25] <wawowe> ibm ^
[04:25] <ibm> wawowe after hitting the second time to the spacebar it exit to the command line i tried that before and do-release-upgrade -d without success but i can try again
[04:26] <wawowe> ibm: that script may not work right with your sources.list modified
[04:26] <wawowe> ibm: and it wasn't working before for the same reason
[04:27] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:29] <ibm> wawowe wait maybe i can upgrade now but it wants to remove stuff should i type yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010711/
[04:29] <wawowe> just realized i mixed up squeeze and lenny
[04:30] <wawowe> ibm: hit no
[04:30] <wawowe> ibm: did you run: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:30] <wawowe> first
[04:32] <ibm> wawowe no should i do that
[04:32] <wawowe> ibm: yes run this first: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:33] <ZeloZelos> i accidently hit the check mark to never ask again about when i hit the x to close xchat, and now when i hit the x it just minimizes, how do i undo this?
[04:35] <xangua> !info xchat-insticator | ZeloZelos
[04:35] <xangua> !info xchat-indicator
[04:35] <ibm> wawowe wait it wants to upgrade the update tool should i answer yes i want you to the screen but i do not now how to
[04:35] <dejahnue> ZeloZelos, probably resetable in the ~/.xchat2/ conf files, give me a few minutes and I can check
[04:36] <ZeloZelos> nvm dejahnue i found it, its /set gui_quit_dialog set to: 1
[04:36] <wawowe> ibm: pastebin the output
[04:36] <ZeloZelos> thank you though
[04:37] <ibm> wawowe i can not it is like a picture
[04:37] <dejahnue> ZeloZelos, it's called the same thing in xchat.conf
[04:37] <ZeloZelos> ah kewll
[04:38] <wawowe> ibm: what exactly does it say?
[04:39] <dixoncx> Need help regarding bluetooth on my laptop. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972551
[04:39] <wawowe> ibm: last line
[04:39] <ibm> wawowe how can i take a screen shot so you can see
[04:40] <wawowe> ibm: if imagemagic is installed you can open another terminal and type: import
[04:41] <ibm> wawowe i do not now that but i know there is w
[04:41] <ibm> wawowe i do not now that but i know there is a way to take a screen shot so you see everything
[04:43] <wawowe> ibm: is it a text box asking you for a yes or no answer?
[04:44] <ibm> wawowe i toke a screen shot it is a png file were can put it so you can see it
[04:45] <sary> you can upload it and share the link using imgur.com
[04:46] <wawowe> ibm: ^^
[04:46] <ibm> no there is a paste tool thing like http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:46] <wawowe> http://imgur.com
[04:48] <ibm> wawowe here is the link http://imgur.com/6sxf3
[04:48] <spdupee> is there a way to do a fresh install from within ubuntu?
[04:48] <spdupee> I upgraded and have have had nothing but problems
[04:49] <wawowe> spdupee: yes but it'll be work
[04:49] <dejahnue> if you did it wouldn't be fresh
[04:49] <Erealz> lol 1204 has a load of em.
[04:49] <Erealz> i get costant crashes
[04:49] <wawowe> ibm: hit cancel
[04:50] <ibm> wawowe why it seems ok is it not an upgrade what is it
[04:50] <spdupee> I get nothing but crashes.  I had one so bad that it took my system out for a week
[04:50] <wawowe> ibm: you need to upgrade apt and dpkg before you do anything else
[04:51] <wawowe> ibm: hit cancel
[04:51] <Erealz> spdupee, downgrade to 1004
[04:51] <ibm> wawowe ok i do that
[04:51] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:51] <dejahnue> spdupee, ubuntu might be showing you you have hardware troubles
[04:51] <OerHeks> 12.04 works fine here
[04:52] <sary> dixoncx: what if you keep the hadrware switch truned on from windows , and then see what rfkill list shows .
[04:52] <wawowe> works great for me too, but i'm not using unity
[04:52] <spdupee> wasn't hardware.  it was all software and all documented on the web with other users
[04:52] <spdupee> lost usb and networking
[04:53] <adam606> Hello
[04:53] <sary> Hey
[04:53] <dejahnue> a crash that causes your machine to stay down for a week sounds major for software
[04:53] <adam606> I have a question if anybody could answer it.
[04:53] <ZeloZelos> adam606, ask away :)
[04:54] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[04:54] <adam606> I have an ipod touch 2nd gen. What version of itunes works under wine? I'm running 10.10
[04:54] <sary> spdupee: would you mind sharing the issues you have , and what is the status of your ubuntu box at the moment.
[04:54] <ZeloZelos> adam606, sorry wrong channel :(
[04:54] <spdupee> no it was software.  I had to change several settings to get it back up, but it took quite a bit of looking on the web for the answers
[04:54] <adam606> oh shoot. sorry I bothered you
[04:55] <sary> adam606: last time i checked it was itunes 7.x.x ..
[04:55] <ZeloZelos> adam606, sorry that was ment for a diff channel
[04:55] <ZeloZelos> dk how i did that
[04:55] <dejahnue> adam606, just curious, does gnupod (linux) woork on yyour model ipod?
[04:55] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[04:55] <adam606> gnupod?
[04:55] <adam606> never heard of it.
[04:55] <ZeloZelos> adam606, there is a list of programs on the wine site that work and gives ratings etc
[04:55] <adam606> I've heard of gtkpod
[04:56] <adam606> and it works fine. I just want to sync my apps.
[04:56] <dejahnue> probably the names has changed
[04:56] <adam606> -.-
[04:56] <xisor> how do i add a custom resolution for my display? its only listing standard tv resolutions via my hdmi connection, but the screen supports its native rez over hdmi 1360x768
[04:56] <xisor> how do i force ubuntu to use it?
[04:56] <adam606> so. just out of curioustiy, what is this channel for?
[04:56] <rhin0> support of ubuntu
[04:57] <spdupee> status of box is up and running, but still get software crashes about every hour
[04:57] <vladthenoob> can someone tell me how to install the software which is used to download and install all the linux softwares from gui
[04:57] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[04:57] <adam606> hey, does anybody know if Precise works on a netbook?
[04:58] <xisor> can someone help me add a custom resolution and force ubuntu to use it? its not finding my monitor resolution
[04:59] <dejahnue> xisor, are you sure your video card supports it?
[04:59] <jiohdi> vladthenoob, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:59] <xisor> dejahnue: yes im quite sure my nvidia ion supports 1360x768@60hz
[04:59] <xisor> dejahnue: works in windows, cant figure out how to set it up in ubuntu, im new to linux
[04:59] <vladthenoob> yes! thanks alot jiohdi thats the name i forgot! synaptic!
[05:00] <ibm> wawowe where are you why do you not respond please wait just read it please here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[05:00] <ZeloZelos> xisor, it could be the driver. recently i tried to use the driver for my nvidea and it broke active x
[05:00] <wawowe> ibm: i'm still here
[05:00] <xisor> ZeloZelos: driver is the nvida forceware drivers, working correctly, its simply not listing non standard resolutions
[05:01] <xisor> hooked up via hdmi, its ONLY listing tv resolutions, i need to add a resolution
[05:01] <vladthenoob> jiohdi, Can you please tell me why Synaptic is not included in Ubuntu? USC is really narrow.
[05:01] <jiohdi> vladthenoob, decision from high up I imagine, I am not privy to
[05:01] <ZeloZelos> not very simple at all though xisor
[05:02] <ibm> wawowe ok what should i do the update tool can i truest it and answer yes other things to type before
[05:02] <OerHeks> vladthenoob, it is included, only not installed standard
[05:02] <xisor> ZeloZelos: works fine over vga, but i need to use hdmi because it carries audio with it as well
[05:02] <vladthenoob> 0erHeks, that's what i meant
[05:02] <xisor> ZeloZelos: so how do i force ubuntu to output the correct resolution?
[05:03] <ZeloZelos> xisor, too complicated for me man, sorry
[05:03] <dejahnue> xisor, this method is seldom recommended, but I think X comes with a file called xorg.conf-vesa which can be copied over to xorg.conf and then edited to add a resolution
[05:03] <wawowe> ibm: apt-get remove libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:03] <xisor> dejahnue: how do i do that?
[05:03] <xisor> dejahnue: is there another way to do it?
[05:03] <jameslord> is there any temp file that occupies too much space?
[05:03] <OerHeks> xisor, have you tried to reset the monitor to default ?
[05:03] <jameslord> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=87
[05:04] <dejahnue> xisor, if the file(s) are there on your setup, they'd be in "/etc/X11"
[05:04] <xisor> OerHeks: its a tv, and it works fine in windows at the correct resolution, but linux doesnt even see anything higher than 1280x720
[05:04] <xisor> OerHeks: tv supports native 1360x768 via hdmi
[05:04] <xisor> OerHeks: but apparently ubuntu doesnt know that
[05:05] <xisor> OerHeks: so i need to know how to force it to
[05:05] <vladthenoob> can anyone suggest me a VNC server software except x11 ? i'm really having troubles with this one
 : All the time, when i turn On hardware switch, i get Hard Blocked: No Soft Blocked: NO. But, i cant enable bluetooth from applet without soft reboot from windows
[05:06] <dejahnue> xisor, as I was saying, check in /etc/X11 for a file called xorg.conf-vesa
[05:06] <xisor> dejahnue: ok, and what do i do once i find it?
[05:06] <xisor> no xorg.conf-vesa in my install
[05:07] <dejahnue> xisor, if you had it, you would copy it to xorg.conf and then edit xorg.conf
[05:07] <xisor> dejahnue: i dont have it
[05:07] <dejahnue> yeah
[05:07] <xisor> dejahnue: so what do i do to fix this problem?
[05:08] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010736/
[05:08] <dejahnue> well, xorg.conf is a kind of too long and complicated file for creating by hand
[05:09] <wawowe> ibm: type: no
[05:09] <ibm> wawowe ok
[05:11] <JoeyZhang> does gnome 3.4 works fine with Ati hd4330?
[05:11] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install dpkg
[05:11] <ibm> wawowe i think the update tool is ok if a close the other program before installing but do need to close it even it is downloading
[05:11] <dejahnue> xisor, all I can think of is that you'd need to find a copy of xorg.conf somewhere
[05:11] <ibm> wawowe ok
[05:12] <wawowe> ibm: i wouldn't trust it since you can't see what it's doing
[05:13] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010741/
[05:13] <client_alive> hi
[05:13] <client_alive> I was wondering where one might find a windows system's files and directories on a linux system. I mean, if I'm running a live distro to try and recover the stuff from the disk, where would I find the stuff?
[05:14] <Phiscribe> client_alive what file manager are you using, most have a volume icon on the left pane, clicking it will mount the windows ntfs volume and let you browse around
[05:14] <Phiscribe> volume as in a disk, not sound
[05:15] <jameslord> what .xsession-errors is so large?
[05:15] <OerHeks> client_alive, try root "/"
[05:15] <vladthenoob> guys what's the fastest desktop sharing software you can suggest?
[05:15] <jameslord> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=88
[05:15] <client_alive> I have system rescue cd running (prolly a mistake)
[05:15] <wawowe> ibm: dpkg -r libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:16] <client_alive> it's my friends computer. I promised them I'd check it out but I want to try and backup thier stuff before doing any diagnostics
[05:16] <ibm> wawowe here is the output for sudo apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010743/
[05:16] <dejahnue> client_alive, what kind of screen are you at?
[05:17] <wawowe> ibm: type no
[05:17] <wawowe> ibm: dpkg -r libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:18] <client_alive> I'm lookin' but I'm not seein'
[05:19] <client_alive> what if I were to run an ubuntu distro live? Would that make my life any easier?
[05:19] <dejahnue> yes
[05:19] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010747/
[05:19] <client_alive> :)
[05:20] <spdupee> ok the crash that always happens is update-apt-xapian-index.  This happens with every restart and durring regular use.
[05:20] <Phiscribe> client_alive i thought you were booted into a live disto, if your using the windows recovery, its not gonna help much, get a live cd, burn it, boot, access the files, back them up to disk or network
[05:22] <wawowe> ibm: dpkg -r --force-depends libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:22] <spdupee> DatabaseCorruptError in__init__(): Expected block 4079 to be level 1 not 0
[05:23] <client_alive> I'm running system rescue cd right now but not that familiar with it. Now, ubuntu I know. I have a couple 64 bit discs here already (12.04, 11.10. 10. 04). I'm trying to determine whether the cpu is a 64 bit cpu though. (cat /proc/cpuinfo but how do I tell from the info?)
[05:24] <dejahnue> client_alive, if you actually want to be able to restore the files later so that the windows machine boots, you'd probably want to backup the drive using "dd" rather than copying the files
[05:24] <sm_> can i virtualize windows drivers inside linux?
[05:24] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010753/
[05:25] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install dpkg apt
[05:25] <client_alive> as far as I can tell it's an intell core 2 duo
[05:25] <client_alive> 36 bit memory extensions...
[05:26] <sm_> I install ubuntu10.4 on a computer after that installation is finished
[05:26] <sm_> i found that my ubuntu cant find my netword card , what can  i do?
[05:26] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010756/
[05:26] <Phiscribe> sm_ you can run a virtual machine with a windows os inside linux, an drivers you install will be installed inside that vm, there are liscensing requirements though
[05:27] <dejahnue> sm_, there's a package called ndiswapper which allows you to use windows ethernet dirvers from linux (with luck)
[05:28] <sm_> thank you for your help<Phiscribe>but i need to install drivers inside my ubuntu os and use it for my work
[05:28] <dejahnue> sorry for the misspelling, it's "ndiswrapper"
[05:28] <sm_> i found sth for installing windows wireless drivers inside linux but nothing else for other drivers
[05:30] <dejahnue> I'm pretty sure ndiswrapper isn't limited to wifi
[05:30] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get -d dpkg gnupg libapt-pkg4.12 libc6 libgcc1 libstdc++6 ubuntu-keyring coreutils libbz2-1.0 libselinux1 tar xz-utils zlib1g
[05:31] <client_alive> what kind of network card is sm_ using? Is it the wireless card? The broadcom?
[05:31] <xyy> is there a channel to discuss irc servers?
[05:31] <Hellper> www.linuxchat.pt.vc
[05:31] <Phiscribe> sm_ what specific driver are you talking about
[05:31] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010764/
[05:33] <ibm> wawowe thank you very much but i think it is easier to use the update tool and take the risk what can it do
[05:33] <sm_> is there anyone know about ubuntu networking well?
[05:33] <client_alive> yup!
[05:33] <client_alive> Ubuntu's the way to go
[05:34] <ibm> wawowe thank you very much but i think it is easier to use the update tool and take the risk what can it do more
[05:34] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010764/
[05:34] <wawowe> ibm: i don't think the update tool is going to work
[05:34] <spdupee> fixed the problem no more crashing
[05:35] <ibm> wawowe i can try anyway
[05:35] <ibm> wawowe it can not do anything worth
[05:36] <testi> if i confirm too fast in Alt+F2 unity does not execute the requested command. I think it seems it makes the same mistake like the KDE desk tool 5 years ago. It picks the item that unity found so far, and not the item entered. The item found so far for command is strangely always the same the user typed, but with a delay.
[05:37] <ibm> wawowe it can not do anything worth thank you anyway i try it
[05:40] <gohkesh> Loooool
[05:41]  * jaimef ponders where xulrunner went in 12
[05:43] <sm_> my network driver is not wiresless
[05:44] <dejahnue> sm_, if you lookup the ndiswrapper project at sourceforge, it's not limited to wifi cards
[05:45] <Phiscribe> sm_ did you see if there is a restricted driver for your network card?
[05:45] <Phiscribe> might help if we knew the network card in question, a bit
[05:45] <gohkesh> Sm_ nobody gives a shit about your network driver
how can i get you more information?
[05:46] <dejahnue> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper
[05:47] <Phiscribe> sm_ so it is a wired, (not wireless) network card and your booted into ubuntu right now?
[05:47] <sm_> yeah it is a wired network and i'm booted into ubnutu right now
[05:48] <Phiscribe> open a terminal and type lspci | grep -i eth
[05:48] <dixoncx> help... bluetooth problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972551
[05:48] <wino> Anyone using a RocketRaid 640L?
root@rasa:~# lspci | grep -i eth 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[05:49] <dejahnue> sm_, so what was your ethernet problem again?
[05:49] <sm_> my network connection is unstable
[05:50] <dejahnue> unstable in what way?
[05:50] <sm_> it is interupted periodically
[05:51] <sm_> and it is very slow
[05:51] <wawowe> anyone know how to force apt-get to ignore broken dependencies and just download anyway?
[05:51] <dejahnue> how slow is slow?
[05:52] <wawowe> can't find anything in the man or otherwise
[05:52] <wino> Or does anyone have a pci-e 1x raid/jbod card that works in ubuntu?
[05:52] <wino> sata2 is fine
[05:52] <sm_> the problem is being unstable
[05:52] <wawowe> but i think there's some way to make it obey dpkg flags
[05:52] <Phiscribe> sm_ look here, it might help (might) basicaly they want you to power down and uplug wait 3 minutes.... http://askubuntu.com/questions/96343/internet-unusably-slow-with-realtek-semiconductor-co-ltd-rtl8111-8168b-card
[05:53] <Phiscribe> also here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/699761
[05:53] <Phiscribe> sm_ ^^^
[05:53] <sm_> for example i loose connection for 2 minutes and the n get connection for a while
[05:53] <dejahnue> sm_, two problems. one is that realtek ethernet is poor. the other is that maybe if you turn down the speed to 100mbit the stability might improve
[05:54] <sm_> and then after between 3-5 minutes i loose connetion again
[05:54] <sm_> totally unstable
[05:55] <dejahnue> sm_, unless your isp is really giving a gigabit, turning down your ethernet speed won't hurt anything and might improve the stability
[05:55] <sm_> dejahune> can i use windows driver in linux? will it help?
 ok how should i do that?
[05:56] <dejahnue> sm_, no. because you started out saying that linux couldn't find your ethernet, not that your ethernet was just unstable
[05:56] <dejahnue> sm_, you can turn down your speed with ethtool
[05:57]  * gohkesh lights his cigar
[05:57] <sm_> sorry for my poor explanation
[05:57]  * wawowe removes apt and installs portage in it's place
 my connection is established but unstable
sorry for my poor explanation. my connection is established but unstable
[05:58] <Lukeroge> Holy crap, there are some big channels on this network :3
[05:59] <dejahnue> sm_, "ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full"
 just a minute, let me try it.
[06:02] <gohkesh> sm_ I can help you for money
[06:02] <bazhang> gohkesh, stop that nonsense
[06:02] <OerHeks> gohkesh, that is not done here.
[06:02] <gohkesh> Money is nonsense?!!!!!
[06:02] <mysteriousdarren> Lukeroge: like what channels?
[06:03] <Lukeroge> So far this is the biggest I have seen - I'm usually on a smaller IRC network
[06:03] <bazhang> Lukeroge, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:04] <Lukeroge> k
[06:06] <dejahnue> Guest82464, did it help?
[06:07] <dixoncx> help... bluetooth problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972551
[06:07] <Lym> Hello all. I accidentally selected too many packages for update, like hundreds of them by doing ./* or something silly like that. So how do I clear my cache so that apt-get -f install doesn't want to install hundreds of unecessary packages?
[06:08] <windbuntu> brasero doesnt work total mess
[06:08] <windbuntu> always says error while burning plus it cant eject
[06:09] <OerHeks> windbuntu, i use K3B on unity, brasero is buggy
[06:09] <gohkesh> Lem there mus me some cache in /var/apr/cache or something like that
[06:09] <windbuntu> brasero is more than buggy its total _ _ _ _
[06:09] <windbuntu> ill try the k3b ty OerHeks
[06:09] <dejahnue> cdrecord works pretty well
[06:10] <windbuntu> why do they put brasero in as default if it a total piece of _ _ _ _
[06:10] <windbuntu> why not use something that works as you suggested?
[06:10] <dejahnue> because it has a kewl name
[06:10] <windbuntu> haha
[06:10] <windbuntu> wow, sad thing is you may actually be right
[06:11] <windbuntu> i have lost 2-30 dvds
[06:11] <windbuntu> 20-30 i meant
[06:11] <dejahnue> wow
[06:11] <mobile> how?
[06:11] <windbuntu> funny thing is it worked when i burned ubuntu to dvd
[06:11] <windbuntu> but all the rest poof
[06:11] <wawowe> windbuntu: that's either because of your dvd-burner or because you're burning too fast
[06:12] <mobile> what u mean??
[06:12] <windbuntu> no i see noe amny many ppl reporeting the same thing it burns at a lik x7 x8
[06:12] <windbuntu> this is a major bug
[06:12] <ex0s> ohh yea
[06:12] <wawowe> not that i like brasero, but it's not making coasters, you are
[06:12] <windbuntu> its very bad
[06:13] <ex0s> use k3b
[06:13] <windbuntu> i will ty
[06:13] <ex0s> or use Cli burning utility
[06:13] <dejahnue> has your drive got burn-free ?
[06:13] <ex0s> CDRECORD command
[06:13] <windbuntu> my dvd burner is a brand new asus
[06:14] <dejahnue> sata?
[06:14] <ex0s> try the "cdrecord" command
[06:14] <windbuntu> does that command also know when to burn an image?
[06:14] <ex0s> jyes
[06:14] <windbuntu> wow
[06:14] <ex0s> u hqve to specify when to burn iso
[06:15] <Lym> Does anyone know how to clear the current apt queue? I accidentally selected too many packages for download. I want to clear the current queue for packages that will be installed by apt-get -f install
[06:15] <ex0s> sorry on my iphone
[06:15] <windbuntu> im going to try k3b 1st
[06:15] <Cerrdor> Lym Cntrl+C
[06:15] <ex0s> yea k3b is good
[06:15] <dejahnue> windbuntu, what's your system load while burning?
[06:15] <EliahKagan> Cerrdor: if i understand Lym correctly it's not that they are currently installing but that they will be installed when apt-get is run with -f
[06:16] <Cerrdor> ohhhh
[06:16] <ex0s> try apt-get remove
[06:16] <windbuntu> i have burned with ubuntu before and it used to work good for me  until unity
[06:16] <ex0s> the reinstall fro
[06:16] <EliahKagan> Lym: if that is the case, you could simulate "sudo apt-get -f install" with "apt-get -s -f install" to see what would happen, and then remove all the packages that would be installed that you don't want
[06:16] <ex0s>  apt-get update
[06:16] <Cerrdor> brb logging into server
[06:16] <windbuntu> ok well im going to go into software center and look for k3b ty
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> Lym, if you are at the need to run a  apt-get -f install, you must have some partial installs am I correct here?
[06:17] <dejahnue> windbuntu, if the problem started with unity, then k3b may not help
[06:17] <EliahKagan> Lym: you'd remove them with "sudo apt-get remove ..." (as ex0s said) or "sudo apt-get purge ..." (which also removes their systemwide configuration files...not usually a big deal whether or not you do this)
[06:18] <Lym> wilee-nilee, the only partial install is crossover office which I was about to get the dependencies for when I discovered I had accidentally selected over 200 packages for install
[06:19] <CuteKitty>  how can i list all partitions of my hard drive?
[06:19] <dejahnue> fdisk
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> Lym, not sure here really, best of luck, if it was me I would let it all install then clean out correctly with purges of what you did not want.
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> thats just me though
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> CuteKitty, sudo fdisk -lu
[06:24] <sm_> dejahnue> my internet connection has a problem so i was disconnected
[06:25] <dejahnue> sm_, oh I thought you were here under the name  Guest82464
[06:25] <sm_> i use your recommended direction in terminal now how i find it is applied?
[06:25] <CuteKitty> wilee-nilee: thanks.
[06:25] <NaRc0LePtIK> bonjour
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> CuteKitty, no problem.
[06:26] <dejahnue> sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 ?
[06:26] <NaRc0LePtIK> Euh?
[06:27] <sm_> yes that is right.
[06:29] <dejahnue> sm_, if lowering the speed doesn't help then either realtek sucks or something else is wrong
 i try this direction ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full exactly
[06:30] <sm_> and my speed changed to that
[06:30] <dejahnue> did it help the stability?
[06:31] <windbuntu> wow k3b is way better it even ejected the dvd for me
[06:31] <windbuntu> no wonder some folks like kde
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> hello everyone i got this file VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt in scaricati folder
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> can you tell me what i have to write to install it?
[06:33] <sbarctea1> hi.
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> as i'm linux begginer
[06:33] <sbarctea1> I am trying to allow remote graphic access (remotely over ssh)
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> the folder where i have it scaricati that means downloads in italian
would you recommend using windows driver using ndiswrapper?
[06:34] <sbarctea1> I am user u1 (with sudo priveleges). I want to allow another user u2 to login via vnc/rdp and login via the login manager into his graphical desktop.
[06:34] <sbarctea1> I have xrdp installed, and I have x11vnc installed.
[06:34] <sbarctea1> xrdp is running.
[06:34] <Ubuntu_Lover> anyone able to help me?
[06:34] <dejahnue> windbuntusm_, no. because if the linux driver works at 1 gigabit, the windows driver won't do any better
[06:34] <spik3> hi is there a way we can put DVD5 in 12.04 and we can what is the link
[06:35] <sbarctea1> When user u2 connects via rdp and tries to use "console", he gets stuck: nothing is listening on :5900
[06:35] <dejahnue> sm_, no. because if the linux driver works at 1 gigabit, the windows driver won't do any better
[06:35] <Ubuntu_Lover> i have this file VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt in scaricati folder can you tell me how to install in on terminal as i'm not able to do this yet being linux starter
[06:35] <sbarctea1> what option in the xrdp drop down shall I ask user u2 to use, so he can get to local gdm
[06:35] <amanthakur> hi guys, can any one tell me is it possible to debug C programs in linux like we debug in Visual Studio in windows?
[06:35] <sbarctea1> ?
[06:36] <sbarctea1> Ubuntu_Lover: you should be asking VMWare guys, it seems like a mature product, with good documentation.
[06:36] <Ubuntu_Lover> wel they give me a command to write in shell last time on ubuntu italian but they sleeping now
[06:36] <dejahnue> sm_, if lowering the speed doesn't help it be more stable, then theres also the possibility that realtek ethernet isn't very good hardware
[06:37] <sbarctea1> also, txt seems like a name of a simple plain text file.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_Lover> i told them the folder and they told me what to write in terminal to install it
[06:37] <sbarctea1> so you should be able to read it.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_Lover> are you able to tell me ?
[06:37] <sbarctea1> Ubuntu_Lover: .txt extension is a convention for plain text files.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_Lover> i don0t even know what that means
[06:38] <Ubuntu_Lover> i can do just click and run
[06:38] <sbarctea1> well, click your browser, and run:vmware.com
[06:38] <Ubuntu_Lover> what i write in terminal to install this ? VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[06:38] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, you should have a .bundle file not a .txt file
[06:38] <bazhang> Ubuntu_Lover, you dont install a text file
[06:38] <Ubuntu_Lover> i got it from donwload on wmware site what i have to download ?
[06:38] <bazhang> Ubuntu_Lover, text files are meant to be Read
[06:39] <Ubuntu_Lover> VMware Workstation 8.0.3 for Linux 2012-05-03 | 8.0.3 | 324M | Linux 64-bit .bundle i download this
[06:39] <Ubuntu_Lover> you got link for wmware workstation install file?
[06:39] <sbarctea1> you said you have .txt file.
[06:39] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, if all you have is a .txt file then you just have instructions.  go back to vmware site and get the .bundle file
[06:40] <Ubuntu_Lover> when i click download bundle gives me text
[06:40] <Ubuntu_Lover> so what i do?
[06:40] <Hasoth> hey I have a problem, I have ubuntu installed on computer, now I wanted to install win 7 on free space, but somehow free space is inside extended partition and I can't format that space to not logical partition, any idea without format everything ?
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> i use google chrome
[06:41] <Cerrdor> whats the package your trying to install Ubuntu_Lover
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> but when i click download bundle gives me text don't know why
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> this
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[06:42] <Cerrdor> lol
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> i  download VMware Workstation 8.0.3 for Linux 2012-05-03 | 8.0.3 | 324M | Linux 64-bit .bundle   and give me text
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> don't know why
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm using google chrome
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> you know what's going on Cerrdor ?
[06:43] <Ubuntu_Lover> ill ask in chan what's the chan of wmare called?
[06:43] <bazhang> !alis | Ubuntu_Lover
[06:44] <Ubuntu_Lover> this stuff is so hard man
[06:45] <Hasoth> do you know how to resize extended partition with free space nallocated on that ? I use gparted live
[06:45] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, i just checked and you should be able to dl that .bundle if you have an account with vmware
[06:45] <Ubuntu_Lover> i do
[06:46] <Ubuntu_Lover> but it gives me text when try
[06:46] <Ubuntu_Lover> i mean converts it to text
[06:46] <Ubuntu_Lover> thanks btw you know why?
[06:47] <Ubuntu_Lover> file says it's an excutable bash
[06:47] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, no i have no idea why.  all i know is that the site does take me to the binary dl after i logon and select it
[06:48] <Ubuntu_Lover> does it turn to text when you try download wmware?
[06:49] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, no, it stays a .bundle for me but i use firefox. try using firefox and see if it stays a .bundle
thanks alot for your hellp
[06:53] <_jeet> Hi
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> hello _jeet
[06:54] <_jeet> thanks wilee .. i have question related to CentOS but nobody in freenode replying
[06:55] <bazhang> _jeet, #centos not here
your help was great. thank alot.
[06:55] <_jeet> i know .. i was just checking if all node and support are same .. but Ubuntu rocks
[06:55] <_jeet> :)
[06:56] <_jeet> thanks
[06:59] <Ek|mu5> hello all, anyone here using kannel on 12.04?
[06:59] <bazhang> Ek|mu5, whats the real question
[07:01] <Ek|mu5> kannel-sqlbox is giving me errors with postgresql. the connection is defined properly and there is no MySQL section but sqlbox still asks for a MySQL connection definition
[07:03] <Ek|mu5> bazhang: relevant error message:  SQLBOX: MySQL: connection settings for id 'sqlbox-db' are not specified!
[07:05] <Ubuntu_Lover> i can't find the wmware chan can you help me?
[07:05] <bazhang> Ubuntu_Lover, #vmware
[07:06] <Ubuntu_Lover> thanks man :)
[07:07] <Ubuntu_Lover> hello i just download this file VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt the folder i have it in is called scaricati what i have to do to install it in ubuntu terminal now as im linux starter
[07:07] <Ubuntu_Lover> the file i got is VMware Workstation 8.0.3 for Linux 2012-05-03 | 8.0.3 | 324M | Linux 64-bit .bundle but when i click manualy download turns it in text is this normal?
[07:08] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: open a terminal and do a sudo sh ~/<username>/<Download Folder>/<VMWare Workstation file name>
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm totaly new with linux
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> i don't know how do that wingede
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> how i do it?
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> userename is x
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> the download folder is scaricati and the file is VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:10] <Wingede> so first you need to open a terminal, in your menu search for terminal
[07:10] <Ubuntu_Lover> so what i do Wingede  can you Guide me?
[07:10] <Ubuntu_Lover> a ok
[07:10] <sickened> !ops | kiss my ass
[07:10] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm root all ready
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> that i can do
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> now what i do?
[07:11] <Wingede> then in there sudo ~/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation....txt
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> sudo ~/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt  i did that
[07:11] <sickened> !ops | suck my dick
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> says file not found
[07:12] <Ubuntu_Lover> haha what's going on
[07:12] <Tm_T> Ubuntu_Lover: nothing
[07:12] <Wingede> sudo sh ~/x/.....
[07:12] <Wingede> fill in the dots with path and filename in full
[07:12] <Areckx> I'm really confused here. A week or so ago I could type characters such as ⓪⓪⓪❶ with ibus-anthy and now they are no longer appearing whe nI type numbers
[07:12] <Ubuntu_Lover> JESUS this is too compliated forme
[07:13] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: don't give up, it gets easier just got to get over the little hurdles
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Lover> if you write me full thing i can copy paste it and install as i did last time
[07:13] <Wingede> k
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Lover> they asked me my folder and user thanks
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Lover> this is the thing
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> root@x:/home/x#
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> folder is scaricati
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> and file is VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> i give execute command to file from properties did i do good?
[07:14] <Wingede> sudo sh ~/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:14] <phuser> join #asterisk
[07:15] <Ubuntu_Lover>  Can't open /root/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:15] <Ubuntu_Lover> says that
[07:15] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, what are you trying to do, read that .txt file ?
[07:15] <Wingede> what is the size of that download? - should be few hundred megs at least?
[07:15] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm trying install wmware workstation 64 bit
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> wich i donwload from your site but it turned my bundle into text
[07:16] <Wingede> OerHeks: trying to install vmware workstaion, looks like it downloaded with extension of .txt which is a bit unusual
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> don't know why
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> i use google chrome
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> and ubuntu latest
[07:17] <Ubuntu_Lover> you know what's going on Wingede?
[07:17] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, VMware workstation is paid software, with great support
[07:17] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: how big is that download?
[07:17] <Ubuntu_Lover> one sec
[07:17] <qinliming> on my computer chrome often die down
[07:17] <qinliming> die
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Lover> 338,9 MB
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Lover> is that ok?
[07:18] <qinliming> crash
i m newbie in ubuntu, how can i improve myself?
[07:19] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: sounds about right, still can't explain why it saved with extension .txt - but anyway, you said can't open /root/x/scar.... shouldn't that be /home/x/scarcicati.... ?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> sm_, use it, maybe read some books, personally I just used it.
[07:22] <bazhang> !manual | sm_
[07:22] <sm_> can you introduce good books?
[07:22] <bazhang> !rute | sm_
[07:23] <bazhang> sm_, I just did
[07:24] <OerHeks> And every month a fresh issue http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ nr 61 is out
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> sm_, lurk the IRC, and the ubuntu forums is another way, you can confirm stuff you read that way and fooing the web.
[07:25] <asdasdasd> dd
[07:25] <Sidvee_> sorry to be lame, whats the command to open up a pdf from terminal using default application.
[07:26] <asdasdasd> das
you used it before?
[07:27] <bazhang> sm_, used what? those resources? yes, very extensively. also see the other suggestions, and one final one: askubuntu.com