[00:00] <country0129> I'm goin' to do a li'l bit more of Ol' Charter 101 and fergitaboutit.
[00:00] <Maahes> boa`: that shouldn't be necessary
[00:00] <XiaolinDraconis> pretty sure i dont even have a terminal to get the rest
[00:00] <Gwar> Hi guys. I need some help. Ever since i swapped from 10.04 to 10.10, my PC speaker keeps beeping at random intervals. It does this even if I blacklist pcspker and is not dependnet on "beep" being installed or not. What is going on because this is driving me nuts and didn't happen on 10.04
[00:00] <country0129> Greez, if you have a solution for this, I'm going to definately call you "guru."
[00:00] <boa`> ya that didnt help at all
[00:00] <boa`> im root right now
[00:00] <boa`> and its saying insufficeint perm
[00:00] <Maahes> right click on the file and look at its properties and see what user owns it and what group its in.
[00:00] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: The minimal install CD will always install enough for a terminal, apt-get, and networking.
[00:01] <Maahes> country0129: I'm still not exactly sure what you're trying to do.
[00:01] <boa`> owner boakun
[00:01] <boa`> group boakun
[00:01] <tc1100> say, could someone help me access my windows 7 shared files from my kubuntu laptop?
[00:01] <boa`> access read only
[00:01] <Ryu_Kurisu> Gwar: did you upgrade or fresh install?
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> theres no terminal in my app list and xterm didnt work
[00:01] <boa`> others acces read only
[00:01] <Maahes> boa`: that's the issue
[00:01] <Gwar> Ryu_Kurisu: Fresh Install
[00:01] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: did you install samba?
[00:01] <tc1100> yes
[00:01] <boa`>  changed it to read and write no change
[00:02] <Maahes> it can't be executed (and you couldn't make it executable) because you can only read it.
[00:02] <country0129> Maahes:  I have homenetworking set up on a Windows7Pro Machine.  It works seamlessly, of course, with other Windows machines.
[00:02] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: So you are getting a GUI of some sort?
[00:02] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah i have pieces of gnome installed
[00:02] <Ryu_Kurisu> Gwar: strange you have this error...mostly errors occur when I upgrade...not from fresh install...
[00:02] <boa`> yeah i cant even do adb devices as user
[00:02] <boa`> how do i fix it
[00:02] <country0129> I have an Ubuntu client set up on a laptop, wirelessly, that worked well with Windows Live Essentials uninstalled in the system.
[00:02] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: and I probably messed up m y smb.conf by #ing out things
[00:02] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: ctrl+alt+F1 should get you to a terminal, press ctrl+alt+F7 when you want to go back to X.
[00:03] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: You should be able to see them if the shares are on the same network...
[00:03] <country0129> I HAD to install it again (reinstall) due to being extremely subservant to my wife.
[00:03] <boa`> i tried chmod 777 /bin/adb
[00:03] <boa`> didnt help
[00:03] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: Just insert correct password and username...
[00:03] <Pudabudigada> Merry Grav-mass everybody!
[00:03] <XiaolinDraconis> oh yeah forgot about the tty's
[00:03] <XiaolinDraconis> ty
[00:03] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: I see them but it asks for a user and password and I cant figure out what it wants
[00:03] <boa`> Maahes, i dunno what to do
[00:03] <Maahes> country0129: so what kind of networking are you wanting to do with the ubuntu machine? Ubuntu cannot run windows live essentials, so I don't see how that's relevant
[00:03] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: You're welcome.
[00:03] <country0129> I see all the folders from Ubuntu, but when I try to connect, insert the CORRECT password and username, it just puts it back again.
[00:04] <XiaolinDraconis> what commands do i need to get the 10.10 gnome?
[00:04] <country0129> I just want to access files.
[00:04] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: I dont really have a password on my windows 7 shares
[00:04] <country0129> Not the functions of Windows.
[00:04] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: Insert the user who owns them...no password...
[00:04] <boa`> i think its a permission error maahes
[00:04] <Maahes> boa`: try removing all the packages installed by the zip and reinstalling it.
[00:04] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: tried that
[00:04] <boa`> http://www.pastebin.ca/2028565
[00:04] <greezmunkey> country0129: what version of win7 do you have?
[00:05] <XiaolinDraconis> Ryu_Kurisu, when accessing shares i always use the name and password of the user who owns them
[00:05] <XiaolinDraconis> tc1100, that was meant for u
[00:05] <tc1100> ah
[00:05] <country0129> Greez:  Pro
[00:05] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: did you try giving the user a password and try again?
[00:05] <country0129> Updated Pro from Home Premium.
[00:06] <country0129> And again and again, and again, and again, and again, Ryu
[00:06] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:06] <Maahes> country0129: okay, so you want samba share. Well What can ubuntu see on the network if anything at all?
[00:06] <boa`> i re extraced the zip with adb in it
[00:06] <boa`> to ~/bin/
[00:06] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, that wont give me all the extras like empathy and brasero?
[00:06] <boa`> i did chmod a+x to it
[00:06] <boa`> it still wont let me use it very well tho
[00:06] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: I've tried setting up a user and giving it permistions to the files and having a password but its not working
[00:07] <Maahes> boa`: I hope you did the extraction as your normal user and not root
[00:07] <boa`> i did it via gui
[00:07] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: It will. The "ubuntu-desktop" metapackage depends on everything in a default Ubuntu install.
[00:07] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: On the W7 pc right?
[00:07] <country0129> my windows machine:  Home   My Windows Network  My Home under Windows Network Home, again, but when I try to access it, no joy.
[00:07] <boa`> so im assuing normal user
[00:07] <Maahes> boa`: ok.
[00:07] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: yes
[00:07] <Maahes> country0129: what happens when you try to access it?
[00:07] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, im going for minimal. all i want is gnome and firefox
[00:08] <traceto> How can i choose another kernel in grub2?
[00:08] <Ryu_Kurisu> XiaolinDraconis: You could try ubuntu-minimal...there is a guide for it online...
[00:08] <boa`> i just re did it via cli
[00:08] <country0129> Asks for authentication, and when I give the PROPER ones, it just pops up again.
[00:08] <boa`> ~/bin$ unzip linux_adb_fastboot.zip
[00:08] <boa`> bin$ adb devices
[00:08] <boa`> List of devices attached
[00:08] <boa`> ????????????	no permissions
[00:09] <Maahes> boa`: and sudo adb devices?
[00:09] <boa`> $ sudo adb devices
[00:09] <boa`> sudo: adb: command not found
[00:09] <XiaolinDraconis> Ryu_Kurisu, i found an ubuntu mini remix but it didnt show what it included
[00:09] <Maahes> boa`: try this sudo /path/to/adb
[00:09] <boa`> im in the adb path already
[00:09] <country0129> I've disabled default LMTD2 ( or something like that) ages ago...only requires LMTD (1) to authenticate, disable 128 - bit encryption...still no joy.
[00:09] <Maahes> boa`: try it anyways
[00:10] <boa`> i just did
[00:10] <Ryu_Kurisu> XiaolinDraconis: Mini remix?
[00:10] <boa`> sudo /home/boakun/bin/adb devices
[00:10] <boa`> List of devices attached
[00:10] <boa`> ????????????	no permissions
[00:10] <FloodBot3> boa`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <boa`> yes yes
[00:10] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: I don't know anything else you can try...sorry :)
[00:10] <boa`> adb is listed under group boakun
[00:10] <boa`> should i change it?
[00:10] <Maahes> no
[00:11] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu:  at least I know I'm not crazy, I'm sure I'm missing something stupid thanks anyway
[00:11] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: "GNOME" is a Desktop Environment, a set of applications including things like empathy that make up a "complete" Desktop Working environment. You're going to need to explain what subset of GNOME you want.
[00:11] <Maahes> boa`: go to users and groups in the menu, and take a look at what your user permissions are.
[00:11] <greezmunkey> country0129: Works like a charm...
[00:11] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: You could try to reinstall sambe...might just work...
[00:11] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, empathy cant be required for gnome to work
[00:11] <tc1100> Ryu_Kurisu: good idea
[00:11] <country0129> Now, Guys/Gals, I'd Uninstalled Windows Live Essentials completely, and it, as you said, Greez, worked like a charm.  But not with it back on my windows machine.
[00:11] <KM0201> XiaolinDraconis: of courese its not.. i uninstalled empathy, all is well.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: You don't understand, you can use any subset of GNOME you want, but you need to explain what that subset is.
[00:12] <Ryu_Kurisu> tc1100: did you see country0129 posts?
[00:12] <greezmunkey> country0129: I don't know about live essentials, I know I have the share mounted that's all.
[00:12] <Maahes> country0129: at this point you may need to try ##windows and find out what may have been changed in your windows network settings.
[00:12] <Ryu_Kurisu> Also about windows shares...
[00:12] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, then im lost cause i dont know what subsets i have to choose from
[00:13] <country0129> Hey, Greez....can you past to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>what the stuff is that you have as far as settings go?
[00:13] <boa`> i just copied it to /bin
[00:13] <boa`> and ran as root
[00:13] <boa`> List of devices attached
[00:13] <boa`> HT0ANRV05091	device
[00:13] <FloodBot3> boa`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: are you wanting a Full Gnome Desktop environment?
[00:13] <XiaolinDraconis> Ryu_Kurisu, mini remix has a website its a project based on mini.iso only its about 160mb
[00:13] <boa`> the script works now
[00:13] <boa`> :D
[00:13] <greezmunkey> country0129: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:13] <Ryu_Kurisu> XiaolinDraconis: got a link?
[00:13] <darktangent> does anyone know of a tool to partition a USB stick on windows?
[00:14] <Maahes> greezmunkey: no one is going to help him with that issue in #-offtopic
[00:14] <Ryu_Kurisu> darktangent: Partitioning on windows?
[00:14] <XiaolinDraconis> www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[00:14] <Ryu_Kurisu> Of a usb? How big is it?
[00:14] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: You can choose any set of applications you want, just install them individually. It sounds like you already have the gnome-panel application installed which is what gives you menus for Accessing Applications and other functions.
[00:14] <darktangent> Ryu_Kurisu: yeah, its 2GBs
[00:14] <XiaolinDraconis> Maahes, what does that include?
[00:15] <Ryu_Kurisu> There is no need or even function to partition a 2GB usb darktangent :)
[00:15] <KM0201> darktangent: easus partition manager is free, and will probably do it... but why are you trying to partition it?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: You probably also want network-manager-gnome if you're going to be using wireless as it will give you an applet that goes in your pannel for selecting wireless networks.
[00:15] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: everything installed that's part of the Gnome Project user applications defaults.
[00:15] <Maahes> and gnome services
[00:15] <Ryu_Kurisu> You could reformat is you'd like...but that could be done with Windows darktangent
[00:15] <country0129> Well, Folks....I really, really appreciate your kind participation in my problems.  If, perchance, I solve it, and you want the solution, my email is posted above.  let me know, and I'll copy furnish it to you.  May all of you have a happy holiday season, and for those of you that care, "Merry CHRISTmas!"
[00:15] <n-iCe> how can I look for a text in any folder and any file?
[00:15] <boa`> is there a command "croot"
[00:15] <darktangent> to install EFI on one and unr on the other
[00:15] <n-iCe> was something like grep -i -R 'text' but isn't working
[00:15] <darktangent> thanks
[00:15] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: if you're curious as to all what's involved in the Gnome DE. Check out the gnome project page.
[00:16] <boa`> this mini guide says to execture 'croot'
[00:16] <XiaolinDraconis> as long as it doesnt include word processor or a web browser or any of that stuff
[00:16] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: it does.
[00:16] <Maahes> Just install applications you want.
[00:16]  * boa` twiddles thumbs
[00:17] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what im trying to do
[00:17] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: What's stopping you?
[00:18] <XiaolinDraconis> sudo apt-get install synaptic?
[00:18] <Maahes> That's a good way to browse for packages yes.
[00:18] <XiaolinDraconis> is that the full command?
[00:18] <Maahes> without the ?
[00:18] <XiaolinDraconis> right
[00:18] <Ryu_Kurisu> synaptic is GUI-tool for installing packages XiaolinDraconis
[00:19] <noonian> XiaolinDraconis, that installs a graphical package manager
[00:19] <XiaolinDraconis> in case anyone is curious im doing this in vmware
[00:19] <Maahes> boa`: the only thing I know similar to that command is chroot
[00:19] <boa`> im referering to this
[00:19] <boa`> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10043163&postcount=4
[00:19] <Ryu_Kurisu> noonian: "A" graphical package manager :P
[00:19] <XiaolinDraconis> for a remastersys project im working on
[00:20] <greezmunkey> Heh country0129 quit just as I was going to tell him how I connected to my win7 machine!! Merry Christmas :)
[00:20] <Maahes> boa`: I think that's a typo and meant to be chroot
[00:20] <Ryu_Kurisu> Maybe you could tell tc1100...when he returns :P
[00:20] <zeus_> ?
[00:21] <ksbalaji> which server offers google-earth channel please?
[00:21] <ksbalaji> +google-earth IRC channel
[00:21] <Ryu_Kurisu> XiaolinDraconis: Your own Ubuntu derived distro of your own?
[00:21] <XiaolinDraconis> ok well this sucks... ctrl+alt releases mouse so i cant get to a tty terminal
[00:21] <XiaolinDraconis> Ryu_Kurisu, yeah
[00:21] <Maahes> ksbalaji: um, I have no idea, and that's not #ubuntu related use search irc or google #google-earth
[00:21] <Ryu_Kurisu> What packages are you gonna install by default XiaolinDraconis?
[00:22] <XiaolinDraconis> Ryu_Kurisu, in the end i want my retro emulators and firefox plus network management i guess
[00:22] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: Ctrl+Alt+1-6
[00:22] <ksbalaji> Maahes, my google-earth fonts in ubuntu lucid is horrible
[00:22] <Ryu_Kurisu> Yuk, firefox xD
[00:22] <wyclif> Why does "Search" but not "Quick search" work in Synaptic? (on a totally fresh install of 10.10)
[00:22] <XiaolinDraconis> Maahes, im using vmware to do this ctrl+alt is taken by vmware to release control of the virtual machine
[00:22] <Maahes> !core fonts
[00:23] <Maahes> wyclif: because quick search is bollocks
[00:23] <IdleOne> !fonts
[00:23] <Maahes> ksbalaji: you want to install msttcorefonts
[00:23] <ksbalaji> Maahes, I installed from repositories and need to solve fonts problem!
[00:23] <wyclif> Maahes: The field is just greyed-out and non functional
[00:23] <wyclif> Maahes: Oh don't get me wrong, I am a user of apt
[00:24] <Maahes> Maahes: huh, I dunno, but really quick search isn't very good
[00:24] <danielc1234> hi all, just set up a VM and Ubuntu as OS. However I cannot get out on the internet. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[00:24] <Maahes> it misses things, a lot
[00:24] <wyclif> Maahes: but I just noticed Synaptic seems incomplete
[00:24] <ksbalaji> Maahes, does it address googleearth font problem? -msttcorefonts?
[00:24] <Maahes> ksbalaji: Most likely, yes.
[00:25] <Ryu_Kurisu> danielc1234: did the network manager install? WiFi or wired?
[00:25] <ksbalaji> Maahes,  thanks I shall install and try.
[00:26] <ksbalaji> Maahes, my synaptic does not show msttcorefonts! repository?
[00:27] <danielc1234> Ryu_Kurisu: I'm gonna be honest with you, this is the first time trying to set this up. I use Centos but want to change. in the inital install, I just let it take all the default settings.
[00:27] <XiaolinDraconis> Ryu_Kurisu, im trying to get to get to imagebin so i can show u what i want
[00:27] <Ryu_Kurisu> You've run a standard desktop installation...and you've got not network danielc1234?
[00:28] <danielc1234> Ryu_Kurisu: No this is a server version 10.04
[00:28] <XiaolinDraconis> oh crap i just realized something
[00:28] <XiaolinDraconis> even if i get to a tty in vmware i didnt get network tools installed from the mini.iso
[00:28] <danielc1234> Ryu_Kurisu: would you mind if I PM you for a quick chat?
[00:28] <Ryu_Kurisu> No problem...
[00:28] <XiaolinDraconis> now im screwed
[00:28] <needlez> anyone know why a computer wont kick into sleep mode if totem is on, but movie has finished?? gnome-power-manager set to kick in sleep at 10 min
[00:28] <XiaolinDraconis> 2 hours wasted
[00:29] <ksbalaji> Maahes,  where do I get msttcorefonts pls?
[00:30] <Ryu_Kurisu> needlez: Totem is still "active" even if the movie is done...
[00:30] <bazhang> !fonts > ksbalaji
[00:31] <XiaolinDraconis> ksbalaji, restricted extras?
[00:32] <needlez> Ryu_Kurisu: exactly totem doesnt close out after the movie and the computer wont kick in sleep mode cuz totem is open
[00:32] <Ryu_Kurisu> Maybe you need to add a bug upstream at totem needlez
[00:33] <needlez> i added this to totem and to gnome-power-manager havent heard anything back from either thought maybe someone had come across this same thing and fixed it round here
[00:33] <Saintly-i386> Got a Xubuntu question... my mouse is not working though it does show up in Xorg.conf. Ive found the settigns for it and im sure its either the driver is wrong or the device option, though im not sure which. can anyone tell me the terminal cmnd for finding the mouse driver?
[00:35] <jshmoe24> we have a big problem with ubuntu software center and apt-get on meerkat x86
[00:35] <jshmoe24> anyone up for the challenge?
[00:36] <xriva> perhaps #ubuntu is a bad place to be asking this, but does anyone have a suggestion regarding the path I should take to get started in the linux community?  I am considering the following:  A) Ubuntu running gnome  B) Kubuntu  C) PC-BSD
[00:36] <jshmoe24> O_o
[00:36] <jshmoe24> no one are you serious?
[00:36] <xriva> (flame suit on) sorry for noob question
[00:36] <dr4c4n> xriva: depends on what you want to do with it?
[00:36] <xriva> just kinda do similar stuff to windows
[00:36] <linxeh> xriva: I would just install one and try it
[00:36] <jshmoe24> I need an admin please for an important bug question
[00:36] <xriva> browse web, work on spreadsheets
[00:36] <jshmoe24> PM me please
[00:36] <xriva> play music
[00:36] <dr4c4n> I agree with linxeh
[00:37] <linxeh> xriva: ubuntu and kubuntu are basically the same - you can install gnome/kde on either if you want
[00:37] <Saintly-i386> jshmoe, explain your issue and we will do ur best to help
[00:37] <bazhang> xriva, #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:37] <jshmoe24> thx Saintly-i386
[00:37] <xriva> sorry baz, will take it there
[00:37] <jshmoe24> I will talk with you
[00:37] <linxeh> xriva: pc-bsd, meh, if you want - but be prepared for a timewarp in usability
[00:37] <dr4c4n> \join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:37] <dr4c4n> oops..
[00:37] <Saintly-i386> LOL
[00:38] <jshmoe24> @Saintly-i386, when i go to install some programs on ubuntu software center or even apt-get for that matter it hangs and then have to erase numerous lock files and then issue a apt-get --configure -a. This shouldn't be needed
[00:38] <jshmoe24> This happens a lot
[00:39] <jshmoe24> IT is a great hindrance
[00:39] <XiaolinDraconis> ty for that ubuntu-minimal tip earlier thats what im gonna need for now
[00:39] <d03boy> I installed ubuntu server and chose not to set anything up besides OpenSSH. I did not set up the network at the time. When I boot up the machine (without a monitor) will it try to use DHCP or not?
[00:39] <jshmoe24> Saintly-i386, have you heard of this bug or had the same problem?
[00:39] <Saintly-i386> jshmoe24: have you removed and then reinstalled it? and are you sure its a porgram issue, and perhaps not an issue having to do with low RAM?
[00:40] <XiaolinDraconis> after that i need gnome in all its glory but without apps like empathy
[00:40] <jshmoe24> removed and reinstalled what? the program? and its not ram I have 2 gigs
[00:41] <jshmoe24> Also when I go to remove the program it says "The package teamviewer6 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." this happens after i do a sudo apt-get remove --purge teamviewr
[00:41] <wyclif> I just installed Skype but it won't run...I notice there are two different kinds of Skype, the Linux v. available at their site and the one in the repos?
[00:41] <jshmoe24> And it doesnt' just happen with teamviewer this is happening all the time with all different packages
[00:41] <Saintly-i386> jshmoe24: removed and reinstalled the software center, you can do that. lol i would suggest it if you're having issues with it installing stuff
[00:42] <jshmoe24> what about apt-get ?
[00:42] <Saintly-i386> have you tried another package manager? i find the software center slow at the best of times.
[00:42] <jshmoe24> Wow I didn't kwon that you could remove and reinstall ubuntu install center how do you do that?
[00:42] <wyclif> Now I have a Skype icon in my menu but it won't run
[00:42] <Saintly-i386> apt-get, that would be a fault in python i would think, and thats something i know very little to nothing about.
[00:42] <jshmoe24> also that doesn't really help with the apt-get problem
[00:43] <Saintly-i386> apt-get, that would be a fault in python i would think, and thats something i know very little to nothing about.
[00:43] <jshmoe24> I am basically haveing to rm -r lock files and then issue a apt-get --configure -a every time Iwant to install something
[00:43] <wyclif> Anyone know anything about properly installing Skype? I also have latest Pidgin installed
[00:43] <Saintly-i386> python would be a backbone to your termnal and system. thats not good.
[00:44] <jshmoe24> what do you mean saintly?
[00:44] <Saintly-i386> wyclif: did you install the windows version or the linux version?
[00:44] <wyclif> Linux version
[00:44] <wyclif> both from Skype.com and the libpurple stuff available in the repos marked "skype"
[00:44] <UnholyTerror> I swear all these questions were asked yesterday.... it's like, dejavu...
[00:45] <Saintly-i386> jshmoe24: i mean that if you're havingapt-get faults and errors, then your python support is glitching
[00:45] <Saintly-i386> LOL unholy i know right
[00:45] <KM0201> UnholyTerror: this whole channel is like deja-vu.. same questions, over and over and over. :)
[00:45] <jshmoe24> can you suggest a lib that i need to install as far as python goes/
[00:45] <jameyuk> Does anyone know the easiest way to configure a software RAID-1 when installing Ubuntu?
[00:45] <greezmunkey> UnholyTerror: come back tomorrow, and you'll see 'em again...
[00:45] <wyclif> Saintly-i386: Linux version, both from skype.com and from the repos...the stuff tagged as skype packages
[00:45] <Saintly-i386> jshmoe24: no idea, like i said i dont know about python.
[00:46] <jshmoe24> Also what is the command to reinstall ubuntu install center?
[00:46] <KM0201> greezmunkey: i'm guessing the next few days, we're gonna be flooded w/ newbs wanting to put Ubuntu on new PC's/Laptops
[00:46] <jshmoe24> maybe it installed currupted
[00:46] <Saintly-i386> wyclif: gotcha, now you said its just not working?
[00:46] <greezmunkey> KM0201: count on it, happens every year.
[00:46] <KM0201> yup :)
[00:46] <Saintly-i386> KM0201: agreed, can we get paid? start paypla accts.... ROFL
[00:47] <wyclif> Saintly-i386: IOW the python package and libpurple stuff that I guess are Pidgin plugins
[00:47] <KM0201> Saintly-i386: lol..
[00:47] <itaylor57> KM0201: I won't be one of em, my lemur cam preinstalled
[00:47] <wyclif> Saintly-i386 Yes, it won't start
[00:47] <greezmunkey> KM0201: It's like that with radios also, you can always tell who got a new on for Christmas (ot, I know)
[00:47] <KM0201> itaylor57: you're one of the few.
[00:47] <XiaolinDraconis> maybe ubuntu will someday get a decent introduction/welcome screen
[00:47] <Saintly-i386> hmmm
[00:47] <KM0201> greezmunkey: you mean like CB radios?
[00:47] <greezmunkey> KM0201: yes
[00:47] <KM0201> greezmunkey: oh geez, i can only imagine.
[00:47] <KM0201> lol
[00:48] <wyclif> Saintly-i386: The install dropped it in the start menu, but it won't start there or from the command line
[00:48] <Saintly-i386> wyclif: i have no idea man... ive never had any trouble with skype, but then again i left ubuntu a long tim ago, i use xubuntu now.
[00:49] <XiaolinDraconis> someone said ubuntu-minimal package... isnt that what the default options are on the mini.iso?
[00:49] <wyclif> Saintly-i386: Thx, it's a third party package, I think lots of ppl use it no matter what distro
[00:49] <Saintly-i386> wyclif: skype deals with alot of server bouncing and wears a skin over it all, that about it for coding... as long as you should have internet it should work. only thing i can say wyclif is try reinstalling
[00:50] <Saintly-i386> sorry
[00:50] <KM0201> wyclif: what are you talking about?.. how to install skype?
[00:51] <wyclif> Saintly-i386: Would installing the python and libpurple packages cause a conflict with the Linux version I've downloaded from skype.com?
[00:51] <Saintly-i386> KM0201: hes installed it, it wont run though.
[00:51] <KM0201> Saintly-i386: why not?...
[00:51] <wyclif> KM0201: Can't get Skype to work on a fresh install after downloading from them and also installing packages from the repos
[00:51] <KM0201> wyclif: ok... "won't run".. does it not start up, or what?
[00:52] <Saintly-i386> KM0201: its in his start menu as a pauncher, just wont fire up, i guess...
[00:52] <wyclif> KM0201: Won't start up from command line or menu
[00:52] <KM0201> wyclif: cuz skype has had some issues the last few days.
[00:52] <KM0201> wyclif: ok.. do you get any error when you try to start it in terminal?
[00:52] <wyclif> KM0201: not a service issue, I'm pretty sure it's my issue-- installation
[00:53] <Saintly-i386> KM0201: ty, im stumped on on launcher programs, my strong area is the device managing, and getting broken things to work :D cuz ive had SOO many issues of my own there
[00:53] <Ryu_Kurisu> Good (UGT) night y'all :) (And merry Christmas to who ever want it :P)
[00:53] <dnivra> i have an iso of Ubuntu 10.10. can i just burn it to a cd using brasero?
[00:53] <XiaolinDraconis> im installing ubuntu-minimal from mini.iso and i want to select gdm along with all 3 window managers (ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu)
[00:54] <wyclif> KM0201: error: while loading shared libraries: LibQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared libraries
[00:54] <KM0201> well there's the problem
[00:54] <XiaolinDraconis> Merry Christmas Ryu
[00:54] <KM0201> wyclif: what version of ubuntu?
[00:54] <wyclif> KM0201: 10.10
[00:54] <KM0201> wyclif: 32bit
[00:54] <KM0201> ?
[00:54] <wyclif> KM0201: 32 bit, fresh install
[00:54] <KM0201> and you downloaded the .deb from Skype.comm?
[00:55] <wyclif> KM0201: affirmative, the .deb package
[00:55] <KM0201> wyclif: k, hang on
[00:56] <Gnea> !skype
[00:56] <wyclif> KM0201: I appreciate it, I am iffy on the issue of conflicting libraries
[00:56] <KM0201> wyclif: are you using ubuntu, or kubuntu?
[00:56] <wyclif> KM0201: ubuntu 10.10
[00:57] <danielc1234> how do I change my DNS or resolve? when I try to upgrade or update it is giving me an error about resolving.
 need more details than that
[00:58] <KM0201> wyclif: open synaptic... and search for this package and see if its installed   libqt4-dbus
[00:58] <raja> wass up
[00:58] <alexander> hi KM0201
[00:58] <linux> yo
[00:58] <KM0201> howdy alexander
[00:59] <linux> merry x-mas
[00:59] <KM0201> linux: merry christmas to you also
[00:59] <linux> i just installed ubuntu
[00:59] <wyclif> KM0201: and guess what, as soon as I ran Synaptic it told me I had a broken package =)
[00:59] <KM0201> linux: that is painfully obvious from your username.. :)
[00:59] <danielc1234> this is the error..."W: Failed to fetch http://security,ubuntu.com.... Could not resolve<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:00] <pops> KM0201, hi km
[01:00] <KM0201> wyclif: i'm guessing you don't have all the repositories for that..
[01:00] <KM0201> pops: :).. sup
[01:00] <KM0201> pops: you've not managed to nuke your PC yet i see
[01:00] <linux> any cool games for ubuntu?
 can you ping security.ubuntu.com?
[01:00] <pops> well i might have
[01:00] <danielc1234> let me try
[01:00] <pops> i dont know how to get windows
[01:00] <KM0201> !games | linux
[01:00] <wyclif> KM0201: installing and removing now...
[01:00] <KM0201> pops: ok, hang on a minute.
[01:00] <linux> thx.
[01:00] <r007> pops thats a bad thing?
[01:00] <KM0201> pops: you didn't see a menu that gave you a choice of Windows or Linux?
[01:01] <danielc1234> r007: yes I can ping it.
[01:01] <pops> r007, only because i have files saved there
[01:01] <wyclif> KM0201: ok, done...no icon in the start menu though
[01:01] <linux> is everyone using xchat.. or a different client?
[01:01] <pops> KM0201, there are five choices.  The only one that sounds like windows is the fifth, but it's like "windows recovery ode"
 no dns issues then otherwise ping would not resolve try updating again
[01:01] <wyclif> KM0201: removed skype
[01:01] <pops> linux, xchat myself
[01:01] <KM0201> pops: ok, hang on a sec
[01:02] <linux> is that the mirc for linux?
[01:02] <eipi-1> good evening, i was trying to reactivate remote access on my machine after some time of not using it and now it does not start vnc server. I open vino-settings and click on allow other users to... but nmap says, there is no open port 5900. Any ideas?
[01:02] <KM0201> wyclif: ok.. search for package libqt4-dbus
[01:02] <r007> pops you dont need windows Linux can read windows file systems
[01:02] <linux> or is there an other more popular client?
[01:02] <KM0201> and see if its available in synaptic
[01:02] <pops> linux, if you're in ubuntu it's already there
[01:02] <pops> r007, i can get my files back?
[01:02] <wyclif> KM0201: bash: /usr/bin/skpe: no such file or directory
[01:02] <danielc1234> r007: using...sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   and then get taht error
[01:02] <itaylor57> linux: smuxi or irssi
[01:02] <r007> pops yeah
[01:02] <KM0201> wyclif: stop for a sec, and just look and see if that file is in synaptic
[01:03] <pops> r007, does it go into the windows partition and copy them to ubuntu?
[01:03] <wyclif> KM0201: Ok...
[01:03] <KM0201> pops: your files shouldn't be gone... unless you did something
[01:03] <r007> pops no you just see them like a drive
[01:03] <KM0201> pops: you told me yesterday, linux and windows booted fine
 you have any non default repos enabled?
[01:04] <wyclif> KM0201: yes, it's checked
[01:04] <pops> KM0201, i dont remember saying that i could get back to windows after getting ubuntu
[01:04] <pops> KM0201, maybe i just glanced at the windows option last time
[01:04] <KM0201> wyclif: is it installed?
[01:04] <pops> KM0201, and now im realizing it doesnt look like a normal windows session
[01:04] <danielc1234> r007: very new to this OS, used centos in past. If they are enabled, I didnt do it.
[01:04] <KM0201> pops: ok, just hang on a minute,
[01:05] <wyclif> KM0201: I checked it and applied all upgrades
[01:05] <KM0201> ok.
[01:05] <KM0201> when its done, you'll have to reinstall skype, and i'm guessing it will work
[01:05] <danielc1234> r007: during install I set a user name like<EMAIL_ADDRESS> should the @ be this server?
[01:05] <wyclif> KM0201: doing that now...brb
[01:05] <KM0201> ok
 yes thats what it cant resolve the wrong.com just add an entry in /etc/hosts for wrong.com to localhost
[01:07] <XiaolinDraconis> man this mini.iso takes forever getting to the package selection
[01:07] <KM0201> XiaolinDraconis: well its doing everything via the internet, what do you expect.. it has to download all the packages, then install them.. it's gonna take longer
[01:08] <wyclif> KM0201: Installed! Deep thanks...I kind of know what gtk does but I'll try to figure out what I did wrong now =)
[01:08] <pops> yay todays xkcd is about linux!
[01:08] <wyclif> pops: I saw that too...funny
[01:08] <XiaolinDraconis> KM0201, yeah i know but its only utilizing 1 percent of my bandwidth at the moment
[01:08] <xriva> sudo reports to ME
[01:08] <danielc1234> r007: I do not see the wrong.com in the host file, it is showing localhost
[01:08] <tripelb> ub 10.04 -- can I do something to hide all the icons on my desktop -- showing off to newbie
[01:08] <KM0201> XiaolinDraconis: well.. it can only go as fast as the server goes.. and i'm sure they aren't set up to let you download at 20mbps
 just add a line <IP_ADDRESS> wrong.com
[01:09] <danielc1234> r007: but that wrong.com is really our live site on another server.
[01:09] <danielc1234> r007: would you mind if I PM you?
 ahh ok then change the username to user@localhost
[01:10] <wyclif> KM0201: thanks much..haha, now that I've got it installed and wanna make a test call, Skype is swamped!
[01:11] <KM0201> wyclif: yeah, they've had some issues the last fwe days
[01:11] <EkN77> is there a good browser for linux other than google chrome based on webkit ?
[01:11] <danielc1234> r007: what file does that happen it? cause it is calling it from somewhere when I try to upgrade, etc.
[01:11] <EkN77> anyone ?
[01:11] <XiaolinDraconis> tripelb, press alt+f2 and paste this "gconftool -s --type bool /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false"
[01:11] <wyclif> KM0201: Haven't used in the past few days but I heard they had a total outage for a day or so
[01:11] <AgrahamDesktop> hey i have a question about ubuntu one
[01:11] <AgrahamDesktop> if i wanna sync folders between windows and my ubuntu machine
[01:11] <AgrahamDesktop> do they have to fall within the cloud storage space limit?
[01:12] <KM0201> wyclif: yup.. i called the "Test Call" the other day cuz i reinstalle don my netbook... and it took like 15min to get through to test call..lol
[01:12] <XiaolinDraconis> tripelb, replace false with true to get them back
[01:12] <AgrahamDesktop> or will it automatically sync them regardless
 not sure tbh give me a sec
[01:12] <needlez> EkN77: I'd rather use firefox or googlechrome, not sure what else there is that compairs to either of those
[01:12] <serard> nenuité tlm
[01:12]  * greezmunkey considers hanging up Skype call to make room for wyclif...Naa.
 when did you set the username?
[01:14] <danielc1234> r007: just a few minutes ago when I installed the OS.
[01:14] <wyclif> KM0201: Test call...success. Glad to see they solved that problem.
 your hostname?
[01:14] <KM0201> wyclif: thank goodness..lol just in time to get swamped for christmas
 type hostname what does it show?
[01:14] <AgrahamDesktop> anyone?
[01:14] <danielc1234> I named it webserver2
[01:15] <AgrahamDesktop> if i wanna sync folders between windows and my ubuntu machine do they have to fall within the cloud storage space limit? or will it automatically sync them regardless
[01:15] <danielc1234> r007: which I see in the hosts file
[01:15] <linux> !list
[01:15] <dob_> strange problem here.... sudo do-release-upgrade == no new release found lsb release == karmic
[01:15] <dob_> i already did a dist-upgrade
[01:15] <AgrahamDesktop> sigh...
[01:15] <dob_> and have all the latest packages installed
[01:15] <AgrahamDesktop> not ubottu is mad at me cause it thinks i'm filesharing
 when you type hostname in a terminal what does it display?
[01:16] <danielc1234> r007: webserver2
[01:17] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: why do you need main server to do sunchronization?
[01:17] <AgrahamDesktop> ?
[01:17] <AgrahamDesktop> i'm saying i DONT need cloud storage to do synchronization
[01:17] <AgrahamDesktop> but i wanna know if ubuntu one will do it
[01:17] <AgrahamDesktop> and when i say synchronization i mean updating so i dont have to manually update changed files
[01:18] <AgrahamDesktop> basically windows live mesh, except not on only windows
 so what stage did you sert<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:18] <r007> *set
[01:19] <danielc1234> r007: I really dont recall, just at one of the start up steps
[01:19] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: No clue about ubuntu one.
[01:19] <AgrahamDesktop> heh well do you know of any tools that can be used crossplatform?
[01:20] <Myrtti> dropbox
[01:20] <AgrahamDesktop> dropbox wont let me sync more than 2gb without paying
[01:20] <silent> what for？
[01:20] <AgrahamDesktop> i dont want cloud storage
[01:20] <AgrahamDesktop> i just want to sync my files between my computers
[01:20] <[thor]> AgrahamDesktop: rsync?
[01:20] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: unison, but bash is better
[01:21] <AgrahamDesktop> i couldnt figure out how to get unison to work tbh :\
[01:21] <AgrahamDesktop> and by bash you mean just using rsync ?
[01:21] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: me too
 whats before your $ in the terminal?
[01:21] <r007> or #
[01:21] <danielc1234> it is what I used to set up a user
[01:21] <jrib> AgrahamDesktop: unison is pretty easy to use.  Just tell it what files you want to sync and run unison-gtk if you want a gui
[01:22] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: no, scp (need to build good script to wath folder for changes)
[01:22] <LunaVorax> AgrahamDesktop, you should look for some Dropbox alternative involving using your own server at home... if you can do that
[01:22] <AgrahamDesktop> dropbox alternative using my own sserver?
[01:23] <[thor]> :/
[01:23] <AgrahamDesktop> and what is scp shcherbak?
[01:23] <zr0> i'm having issues with the synaptics touchpad on my laptop.. it doesn't seem to respond to 25% of my taps..
[01:23] <[thor]> AgrahamDesktop: man scp
[01:25] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: spc for transfer (you can get shell for windows too), ls, grep to biult list of files, awk, diff to make sure that there are shadows copy and that nothing will be overwritten
[01:25] <shcherbak> *build*
[01:25] <AgrahamDesktop> another question, what do you guys use as a full featured music player, including library organizing options, ratings, and possibly even mobile device syncing
[01:25] <jrib> AgrahamDesktop: you don't want to reinvent the wheel, just use unison or rsync
[01:25] <r007> rsync ftw
[01:26] <shcherbak> AgrahamDesktop: moc, mpd
[01:26] <r007> cut out the middle man :)
[01:26] <onlyplayragz> OUBABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIII
[01:26] <onlyplayragz> OUBABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIII
[01:26] <FloodBot3> onlyplayragz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:27] <XiaolinDraconis> can i get "Places" on my panel without the rest of the menu?
[01:27] <jrib> XiaolinDraconis: doubtful
[01:27] <danielc1234> r007: would you mind if I PM you?
[01:28] <AgrahamDesktop> lol @moc music on console
[01:28] <r007> ^^ check yours
[01:29] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, what do you mean?
[01:29]  * skraito say hi all
[01:29] <XiaolinDraconis> can i get someone to pm me with help on installing packages with mini.iso
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, the default panel has that menu
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, with Apps Places System
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, all i want is places drop down
[01:30] <KM0201> Jordan_U: are you around?
[01:31] <curtmack> Okay. So. I have a partition on my Linux drive that I use on my Windows drive. I had to reinstall Linux, and now the partition isn't recognised by Windows. I asked around, and I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the MBR being rewritten and not with Windows.
[01:31] <curtmack> Does anybody have any idea what might have caused it?
[01:31] <curtmack> or should I find a grub channel to ask in
[01:31] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, right-click on the menu and choose edit... uncheck what yo don't want.
[01:31] <[thor]> AgrahamDesktop: i use banshee mostly
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> curtmack:  reinstalling fgrub to the MBR would not make a partition unreadable.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> curtmack:  check with sudo fdisk -l, to see if the partition is there.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> curtmack:  then try to mount it.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[01:31] <curtmack> It's still there, Ubuntu sees it just fine
[01:32] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, you dont get what i mean
[01:32] <curtmack> but Windows can't, it says the drive isn't formatted
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> curtmack:  what filesystem is the thing?
[01:32] <curtmack> NTFS
[01:32] <curtmack> and it worked fine before I reinstalled
[01:33] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: do you know much about grub2... grub2 is booting a Win recovery  mode(sda1) and i need i to boot the normal "C:" which is sda3
[01:33] <curtmack> when I installed, I reformatted one of the other partitions, that might also have something to do with it
[01:33] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, I do, I just thought you could uncheck the main headings as well... sorry
[01:34] <ahri> hi, my webcam was working a couple of days ago and now it's not being listed as a device in cheese/skype, does anyone have any pointers? it's built into the laptop so i can't watch dmesg as i unplug/plug it back in
[01:34] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, ic but no im sure that doesnt work
[01:34] <needlez> anyone here know how to modify plymouth to look nice or get rid of plymouth and load up grub2 without messing up the whole system
[01:35] <needlez> ??
[01:35] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, besides i think gnomenu depends on what is checked in that list
[01:35] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, hold a sec...
[01:35] <curtmack> hmm, I ran fdisk -l, and on the partition in question, the # of blocks has a + after it
[01:36] <curtmack> is that a problem?
[01:36] <XiaolinDraconis> 1 hour later and mini.iso is 90% done with base system install
[01:36] <XiaolinDraconis> man i love old pc's
[01:38] <needlez> anyone here know how to modify plymouth to look nice or get rid of plymouth and load up grub2 without messing up the whole system??
[01:38] <XiaolinDraconis> ooh pick me i do i do
[01:38] <XiaolinDraconis> needlez, go gnome-look.org and search plymouth
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> theres a plymouth splash changing app there
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> plus some decent screens to choose from
[01:39] <needlez> done this and loaded up plymouth stuff thru that and didnt work at all still got a ugly purple screen
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> oooh you might have that problem i was reading about
[01:40] <XiaolinDraconis> does ubuntu show up in real big letters on that purple screen
[01:40] <needlez> no normal letters, just when closing displays text and screen is black
[01:40] <nit-wit> audience gasps
[01:41] <XiaolinDraconis> lol
[01:41] <curtmack> What does it mean when fdisk -l puts a + after the number of blocks on a partition?
[01:41] <curtmack> the man page doesn't say anything
[01:41] <XiaolinDraconis>  but yeah i dont know anything about that
[01:41] <needlez> grapics card is a nvidia 310M with noueavu drivers, its an i7 core computer and running ubuntu 10.10
[01:42] <XiaolinDraconis> hmm the problem i was referring to involves nvidia
[01:42] <ahri> hi, my webcam was working a couple of days ago and now it's not being listed as a device in cheese/skype, does anyone have any pointers? it's built into the laptop so i can't watch dmesg as i unplug/plug it back in
[01:42] <intrader> Following up with 'fan always on problem'. I was hoping that adding acpi_osi=Linux to GRUB CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. But no luck. Anyone help please.  Im going with Asterisk for the phone systems. If i wanted to allow customers to place orders online is there any open source programs that can handle that?
[01:45] <wyclif> question: what is that command line bittorrent client called?
[01:46] <cgcardona> I am wondering what I type in to see how much storage I have left
[01:46] <curtmack> cgcardona: df
[01:46] <wyclif> I want to run bittorrent on the command line, what package should I use?
[01:46] <curtmack> it gives you a usage %, subtract from 100
[01:47] <curtmack> df -h gives you numbers in MB, GB, etc
[01:47] <cgcardona> curtmack: thanks what does that stand for?
[01:47] <cloude> fs
[01:47] <curtmack> uh, I have no clue
[01:47] <cgcardona> hehe
[01:47] <curtmack> disk files maybe?
[01:47] <cgcardona> cool
[01:47] <r007> the -h is human readable but good question about df
[01:47] <greezmunkey> VSD20C: You can start here: http://www.myfreepos.net/ - (not an endoursement)
[01:48] <cgcardona> cool
[01:48] <cgcardona> well that was what I was looking for
[01:48] <cgcardona> thanks ;)
[01:48] <cgcardona> and happy holidays all!
[01:48] <r007> merry xmas
[01:48] <darkwurm> cgcardona: df - display free disk space
[01:48] <XiaolinDraconis> merry messmess
[01:48] <cgcardona> darkwurm: thanks
[01:49] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, wondering if this is what you're looking for: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[01:50] <VSD20C> greezmunkey: gracias should work
[01:51] <billson> is anybody available?
[01:51] <r007> billson take a ticket we will call your number when we are ready :)
[01:52] <billson> how do I go about that haha
[01:52] <r007> billson just ask lol
[01:52] <billson> I don't have any problems really, I just want to figure out how to set up my panels like this
[01:52] <shcherbak> wyclif: rtorrent
[01:53] <billson> http://www.gaia10.us/wp-content/uploads/LinuxSprout.jpg
[01:53] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, im not sure what that does exactly but it doesnt quite look like what i want
[01:53] <globus> someone knows a similar program to nLite but for linux?
[01:53] <r007> billson no probs sorry cant help you dont really use gui much
[01:53] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, hmmmm.....
[01:53] <billson> oh alright
[01:53] <aeon-ltd> globus: err thats pointless
[01:54] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, if that does just what the screenshot shows then its not for me
[01:54] <aeon-ltd> globus: if you want the lightest, use the minimal or server iso and build from there
[01:54] <aeon-ltd> globus: then remastersys the install (or clonezilla)
[01:54] <XiaolinDraconis> basically i just want my nautilus bookmarks on my panel
[01:54] <shcherbak> billson: panels or windows decoration
[01:55] <billson> panels
[01:55] <billson> like the top panel bar
[01:56] <XiaolinDraconis> billson, you want Docky
[01:56] <XiaolinDraconis> oh the blue panel
[01:56] <billson> yeah, I could have figured out the dock but I want the panel at the top
[01:56] <XiaolinDraconis> its transparent
[01:57] <billson> the nice transparent look that doesn't look ridiculous
[01:57] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, even if it does what you need, it still looks to 'big' to jus disable a few main menus.
[01:57] <r007> billson thats not ubuntu
[01:58] <XiaolinDraconis> r007, ????
[01:58] <billson> yeah i figured but i'm sure i can get my panel set up like that in ubuntu
[01:58] <r007> billson well not the latest at least thats an unbranded gnome
[01:58] <XiaolinDraconis> ooh yeah
[01:58] <r007> billson probably a theme
[01:59] <XiaolinDraconis> billson, transparent panel doesnt do it for u?
[01:59]  * skraito say hi all
[01:59] <globus> I installed ubuntu as I give, use the whole system and removed all partitions. Now I tried to install Windows XP writes the hard disk does not see my laptop is a Toshiba Satellite L40 14n and therefore needs a program to do Windows
[01:59] <billson> well i can make my panel slightly transparent but the menu and icons on the panel still have the black surrounding them
[01:59] <billson> and it looks all clunky and not as smooth as that picture
[02:00] <r007> globus windows does not recognise an ext file system
[02:01] <darkwurm> billson: it's just a theme, find the theme ;)
[02:01] <globus> what do I do now?
[02:01] <herro> a
[02:02] <herro> How could i see my gfx cards chipset?
[02:02] <globus> r007 what do I do now?
[02:02] <billson> well i downloaded a theme and used emerald theme manager and it set up the windows like it is in that picture but
[02:02] <r007> globus make a ntfs partition for windows
[02:02] <billson> but the panels stayed the same
[02:02] <cgcardona_> what exactly is top?
[02:02] <greezmunkey> billson: It's called Sprout, it's a theme: http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/GAIA-Sprout-179554275
[02:02] <bastidrazor> herro: in a terminal type: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:03] <billson> yeah i installed that theme and it didn't change the panels only the windows
[02:03] <XiaolinDraconis> cgcardona_, process monitor?
[02:03] <herro> ok and the interface?
[02:03] <herro> like pci  2.0
[02:04] <r007> <cgcardona its the equivalent of windows task manager just not graphical
[02:04] <darkwurm> r007: and a million times more informative :P
[02:04] <r007> darkwurm so true
[02:04] <globus> Windows needs to do, someone knows a similar program to nLite but on ubuntu
[02:05] <System_Default_0> Hi, I'm having an issue with Frigg, at first when I connected to IRC Freenode automatically Frigg appears. But actually it doesn't appears. What can I do?
[02:05] <greezmunkey> billson: on this page are the panel instructions: http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/ffuu-171639096
[02:05] <billson> alright thanks!
[02:05] <r007> <cgcardona turn irix mode off if your used to windows though but cant remember it might not be on in ubuntu
 /join #Frigg
[02:08] <thian> help me, how to install file tar.gz2 more easy without using terminal?????
[02:08] <r007> thian you cant install tar.gz2 its an archive
[02:08] <darkwurm> Soooo tar.gz2 is not something you install, it's an archive, akin to .ziip
[02:09] <darkwurm> *.zip
[02:09] <r007> thian and if you dont know that dont bother installing from source get a .deb
[02:09] <KM0201> thian: there really is no "easy" way to install from  a tar file....
[02:09] <KM0201> thian: what are you trying to install from source
[02:09] <unrealjeff> hi
[02:10] <r007> thian installing from source can be a ball ache if your experienced with Linux not recommended for noobs
[02:10] <KM0201> hi unrealjeff
[02:10] <KM0201> thian: what are you trying to install from source?
[02:10] <darkwurm> KM0201: that's not true, most of the time it's only a couple commands, not exactly hard. Something tells me he doesn't have a xorg tree tucked away in that tar.gz2
[02:10] <unrealjeff> ubuntu is the best
[02:11] <XiaolinDraconis> where is the ubuntu-minimal package? im installing from mini.iso
[02:11] <r007> darkwurm it all depends on dependencies
[02:11] <KM0201> darkwurm: it's not hard, when you have all the dependencies, tracking down dependencies is the issue.....
[02:11] <r007> ./make make install usually does it but....
[02:11] <herro> how would i see what pci slot i have?
[02:11] <KM0201> darkwurm: and if it "wasn't hard"... then everyone would use slackware cuz its so freaking fast
[02:11] <r007> herro take the side of your pc
[02:12] <herro> ?
[02:12] <herro> i got 2 slots
[02:12] <darkwurm> KM0201: slackware is hardly compile only ;)
[02:12] <herro> put idk if its pci 2.0 x16
[02:12] <herro> or w/e they call it
[02:12] <KM0201> darkwurm: quite a bit of it is though
[02:12] <XiaolinDraconis> herro, u have to be a tech guy to id those things
[02:13] <r007> herro in your motherboard manual then
[02:13] <herro> >.< i could on windows easily
[02:13] <XiaolinDraconis> or find pictures on google and compare
[02:13] <wizardslovak> hello people
[02:13] <yealin> i have an new os   to add to my computer  ,,but how can i  edit the grub
[02:13] <herro> were talking nvideo 8600 do you know how many types of those they made?
[02:13] <r007> herro this is not windows
[02:13] <herro> O really?
[02:13] <wizardslovak> I cant create folders in one of my hard drives , its owner is root , how do i change ownershit to user?
[02:13] <thian> i have read some article in PCos 3D that we can install file tar.gz by using point click,but they dont show what is the names of this software,can you help me??
[02:13] <yealin> who can help me
[02:14] <r007> thian no you cant
[02:14] <sacarlson> globus: you mean like auto install like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/powerpc/automatic-install.html
[02:14] <r007> thian you can extract it using point and click
[02:14] <thian> how??
[02:14] <KM0201> thian: double click it and extract it... but thats not gonna do anything
[02:14] <r007> thian google is your friend
[02:15] <XiaolinDraconis> drag n drop and u need to know where the files need dropped
[02:15] <thian> yes i have search it but i dont know the name of the software
[02:15] <darkwurm> KM0201: You can install slackware just fine no compiles required just the same as any distro these days. But there is no difference compiling from one distro to another. configure will for the most part tell you what your missing if anything so to be honest unless it's something compilcated it should be no more/less hard to install from a tar than anything else.
[02:15] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, still looking...
[02:15] <yealin> i have an new os   to add to my computer  ,,but how can i  edit the grub
[02:15] <KM0201> darkwurm: that i can agree with.. and its been ages since i used slackware, so i'll take your word for it.. i'm a debian guy nowdays.
[02:16] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, yeah thats been stumping me for a long time
[02:16] <XiaolinDraconis> where is the ubuntu-minimal package? im installing from mini.iso
[02:16] <XiaolinDraconis> can anyone pm me to help installing from mini.iso
[02:16] <r007> darwurm we didnt say its hard to install from source well for noobs it is but depenecies can be a pain
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, if you are installing from the mini.iso that is the ubuntu-minimal package.
[02:17] <XiaolinDraconis> k thnkx
[02:17] <XiaolinDraconis> still need help choosing packages
[02:17] <unrealjeff> how do you install ubuntu with persistance within windows on a flashdrive?
[02:18] <syafm0vic007> unrealjeff : it's very simpel
[02:18] <syafm0vic007> hello everybody
[02:18] <syafm0vic007> :)
 well you will want ubuntu-desktop by the sounds of it
[02:19] <XiaolinDraconis> that installs way too much
[02:19] <syafm0vic007> hahaha.. mantap
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, do you want Gnome?
[02:19] <r007> gnome then
[02:19] <KM0201> syafm0vic007: greetings
[02:19] <XiaolinDraconis> i want gnome and firefox
[02:19] <syafm0vic007> xiaolin : gnome and firefox..?
[02:19] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont want empathy and rythmbox or anything else really
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, to install gnome use the gnome-desktop-environment package.
[02:19] <syafm0vic007> for what
[02:19] <syafm0vic007> package
[02:20] <XiaolinDraconis> im making a livecd
[02:20] <Alan502> Merry Christmas!
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, oh you might not want that either
[02:20] <syafm0vic007> live cd Ubuntu
[02:20] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, ?
[02:20] <syafm0vic007> have ready gnome and mozilla firefox
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, i think g-d-e would bring in empathy
[02:20] <xuekan> Merry Christmas everyone
[02:20] <alexander> what is the number one best thing about ubuntu?
[02:20] <syafm0vic007> merry chirstmas too
[02:21] <syafm0vic007> :)
[02:21] <Alan502> and happy new year :)
[02:21] <XiaolinDraconis> gde?
[02:21] <r007> alexander restricted drivers
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> alexander, that isn't really a "support" question
[02:21] <syafm0vic007> and happy santricyber :(
[02:21] <syafm0vic007> :(
[02:21] <skrewler> could someone help me?  I somehow screwed up my ruby gems install trying to install ruby 1.9.2 and can't install ruby gems 1.9.1 http://pastebin.us/1856
[02:21] <syafm0vic007> and happy santri Cyber :)
[02:21] <Alan502> santri cyber?
[02:22] <syafm0vic007> website of student in indonesian
[02:22] <syafm0vic007> you can google >> SantriCyber.Org
[02:22] <Alan502> syafm0vic007, your website?
[02:22] <syafm0vic007> not..
[02:22] <con-man> does anyone know why my DVDs wont play?  I have libdvdread4 and libdvdnav4 installed
[02:22] <syafm0vic007> no but.. org
[02:23] <kk9822> hi
[02:23] <syafm0vic007> Alan502
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> con-man, after installing libdvdread4 did you run the required script?
[02:23] <syafm0vic007> you want to see
[02:23] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, alacarte is what handles the menus, and the ui is in /usr/share/alacarte but it's xml/xul and doesn't seem to list things by name.
[02:23] <rublind> I'm having trouble getting into recovery mode on an asus eee box. I've tried pressing shift during boot, but I get no grub menu, can someone help?
[02:23] <Alan502> syafm0vic007, looking for it
[02:23] <con-man> ZykoticK9, it came installed with Ubuntu, what should I run?
[02:23] <alexander> ZykoticK9, "On IRC you can talk to many other members using Ubuntu, on topics ranging from idle chit-chat to support with your Ubuntu." That's on the page where i found this channel
[02:23] <r007> rublind esc during boot
[02:23] <kk9822> can any one help me how to make this prog run The file '/home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[02:23] <kk9822> pl
[02:23] <syafm0vic007> Alan502, website >>> http://santricyber.org
[02:23] <XiaolinDraconis> alacarte is what pops up when u click edit menus
[02:24] <rublind> r007: press and hold, or tap continuously?
[02:24] <Alan502> syafm0vic007, it has music, makes me close it
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> con-man, "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[02:24] <XiaolinDraconis> continuosly
[02:24] <r007> rublind tap continuously to make sure wont do any harm
[02:24] <Alan502> syafm0vic007, i don't understand anything either XD
[02:24] <syafm0vic007> wait
[02:24] <syafm0vic007> alan
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> alexander, this is the support channel - #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit-chat
[02:24] <alexander> ZykoticK9, I will respect the de facto use though, I guess
[02:24] <syafm0vic007> santricyber.org/x7a
[02:24] <syafm0vic007> http://santricyber.org/x7a
[02:25] <nit-wit> con-man, install the restricted extras and look on this page for dvd codecs. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[02:25] <con-man> ZykoticK9, cheers
[02:25] <con-man> nit-wit, its ok I just had to run that script it works now
[02:25] <con-man> thanks anyways :)
[02:25] <syafm0vic007> alan502, you see in here >>> http://santricyber.org/x7a
 chmod +x '/home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe you wont be able to run it unless in wine though
[02:25] <nit-wit> con-man, cool
[02:25] <rublind> r007: XiaolinDraconis: no dice. after a few times it starts putting ^[ to the screen, and then shows me a login prompt
[02:25] <Alan502> syafm0vic007, yes but it's in a language i can't understand
[02:25] <kk9822> yes i am going through wine
[02:25] <syafm0vic007> alan502, that language in indonesian
[02:25] <syafm0vic007> you can translate..
[02:25] <bazhang> syafm0vic007, stop linking that site
[02:26] <r007> rublind edit the grub timeout to 10 seconds cant remmeber how its done in grub 2 off the top of my head though
[02:26] <syafm0vic007> bazhang..? why..? i chat with my friend.. :)
[02:26] <bazhang> syafm0vic007, this is NOT the chat room
[02:26] <rublind> r007: can't, lost sudo privileges. which is why I'm trying to get into recovery mode in the first place.
[02:26] <kk9822> can u pl give the command line so that i can do on terminal pl
[02:26] <KM0201> syafm0vic007: thats like the 5th time you've done that
[02:26] <syafm0vic007> bazhang..? ooh.. i'm sorry :)
[02:27] <syafm0vic007> HACKER OF INDONESIA
[02:27] <globus> sacarlson I deleted partitions to install ubuntu, and want to install Win XP (Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer) and it needs to do Windows XP just do not know what program is for Windows nLite. and on ubuntu?
[02:27] <syafm0vic007> wkakak
[02:27] <syafm0vic007> :)
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> kk9822, "wine /home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe" should work
[02:28] <r007> globus already told you you need to format a ntfs partition for windows it dont see ext
[02:28] <chantal1987> hi
[02:28] <kk9822> no it gives error what i typed earliearzykotick
 chmod +x '/home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe
[02:28] <XiaolinDraconis> when i choose the gnome-core package it wants to add a set of apps like its own web browser and stuff
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> kk9822, you're error seems to be from GUI
[02:29] <r007> you probably have to sudo it
[02:29] <ZykoticK9> kk9822, you don't need to sudo wine stuff!
[02:29] <kk9822> so pl give exactly what i should type in terminal pl
[02:29] <r007> to chmod you do
[02:29] <chantal1987> hi. my ubuntu on hard drive is unaccessible, im trying to save my files in that partition which i can't access from windows because some of the folders require permission. Any idea how i can copy my files to windows partition?
 chmod +x '/home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe
[02:29] <kk9822> ok
[02:29] <darkwurm> And shouldn't sudo wine stuff.
[02:29] <r007> without the ' at the beginning of the path
[02:30] <globus> r007 gparted can be?
[02:30] <r007> didnt say sudo stuff said sudo for chmod
[02:30] <r007> globus yeas use gparted
[02:30] <globus> r007 thanks bro
[02:30] <sacarlson> globus: if you want to install windows also as dual boot you should install that first, then install ubuntu,  make sure before you install unbuntu the you leave an UNUSED partition that ubuntu will see and identify as where you want to install it.
[02:31] <HeWhoWas> Are there any mdadm RAID gurus here? My Raid 1 keeps screwing up on boot...and it's not the usual mdadm.conf errors
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  you could just 'wine //home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  you could just 'wine /home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe'
[02:32] <r007> not if its not executable he cant
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> r007:  yes he can.
[02:32] <sacarlson> globus: use partition magic or use the ubuntu live boot cd and run gparted to resize the partitions to provide the needed space of at least 12 Gb for a ubuntu install
[02:33] <darkwurm> r007: yes he can
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> the executable thing for wine. is actually for the wine launcher front end..
[02:33] <cr215> hello.  i apologize if this is a dumb question, but how can i add another user to my computer un ubuntu 20.04?
[02:33] <r007> fairy muff windows noobs :)
[02:33] <cr215> 10.04**
[02:33] <KM0201> cr215: 20.04?   that's a long way off
[02:33] <KM0201> you must have the pre beta alpha
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> cr215:  sudo adduser billgates  (for example)
[02:33] <kk9822> it says thischmod: cannot access `/home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe\n \nwine': No such file or directory
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> cr215:  theres some gui tools for it in the admin menu.
[02:34] <chantal1987> hi. my ubuntu on hard drive is unaccessible, im trying to save my files in that partition which i can't access from windows because some of the folders require permission. Any idea how i can copy my files to windows partition?
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  you did a typo some how.. \n \n  ? dosent make sence
[02:34] <KM0201> chantal1987: are you on a live cd?
[02:34] <r007> a space after .exe
[02:35] <Maahes> chantal1987: use a live CD. Windows can't access ubuntu's filesystem
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  use the TAB key to complete filenames.
[02:35] <kk9822> when i typed
[02:35] <kk9822> chmod: cannot access `/home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe\n \nwine': No such file or directory
[02:35] <kk9822> this message came
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  what was the EXACT command you used..
 did you actually try making it executable
[02:35] <kk9822> 'wine /home/kk9822/Downloads/mt4setup.exe
[02:36] <IdleOne> it's the ` backtick
[02:36] <IdleOne> he needs to remove it
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  you got an extra ' you dont need
[02:36] <kk9822> ok i will check
[02:37] <XiaolinDraconis> what do i need to select to have the GDM login screen gnome panels nautilus a terminal wireless network and firefox!!!
[02:37] <XiaolinDraconis> sry
[02:38] <XiaolinDraconis> but this thing is confusing
[02:38] <kk9822> thanks it did
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> XiaolinDraconis:  your question is confuseing....
[02:38] <kk9822> that is great
[02:38] <XiaolinDraconis> i know but ive asked it plainly 14 times
[02:38] <Marie1tran> hi
[02:38] <XiaolinDraconis> sry u might not have been here
[02:38] <IdleOne> XiaolinDraconis: the package name would be ubuntu-desktop if I understand your question.
[02:38] <XiaolinDraconis> thats too many apps
[02:38] <darkwurm> XiaolinDraconis: For the love of all that is holy just install the desktop version and uninstall the stuff you don't want, that will be faster for you I think
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> XiaolinDraconis:  fire up the pacakge manager and install what you want then.
[02:38] <XiaolinDraconis> that comes with rythmbox and empathy
[02:39] <r007> ubuntu-desktop installs everything like open office etc also
[02:39] <XiaolinDraconis> im using mini.iso
[02:39] <chantal1987> Maahes: I still can't copy the files in the permission folder. how do i bypass that. i am on live cd now.
[02:39] <XiaolinDraconis> i would use the package manager if someone could help me pick the gnome desktop
[02:39] <IdleOne> hmm, gnome-desktop maybe is what you want but that installs a few extra apps also
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search   is our friend, :)
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-panel
 apt-cache search gnome
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !find nautilus
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> actually i think theres a gnome meta package as well..
[02:40] <Maahes> chantal1987: what "permission" folder ?
[02:40] <darkwurm> Dr_Willis: there would have to be
[02:40] <IdleOne> gnome-desktop-environment is what you want I believe. now figure out what that includes
[02:40] <XiaolinDraconis> sry ill brb
[02:40] <XiaolinDraconis> christmas ham calls attention
[02:41] <r007> lol
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> meta packages pulling in other meta packages... its  such a - less then optimal - system
[02:41] <Maahes> chantal1987: that is, is it a windows folder or an ubuntu folder?
[02:41] <r007> dont burn the dinner
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Ham - eat it cold! :)
[02:42] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: it does seems trange
[02:42] <IdleOne> apart from empathy which he can remove after I don't see anything else that he wouldn't want
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> KM0201:  yea the whole way meta packages work.. is well. a bit of a kludge. can cause issues
 Only NTFS I do for Windows?
[02:42] <Maahes> IdleOne: there is lots not to want in gnome. like..gnome.
[02:42] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: agreed...
[02:43] <IdleOne> Maahes: go back to your kde :)
[02:43] <Maahes> IdleOne: I don't normally use a DE
[02:43] <r007> kde sucks
[02:43] <Maahes> AwesomeWM + GTK.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> kde in 10.10 is quite useable..
[02:43] <chantal1987> Maahes: it's a ubuntu folder with permission
[02:43] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: compared to? an abacus?
[02:43] <kk9822> hi dr willis
[02:43] <sacarlson> gobus: ntfs is find for windows, for ubuntu you will leave un partitioned (deleted)
[02:43] <IdleOne> sorry i started the DE war. let's stop before we go to offtopic :)
[02:43] <darkwurm> kde makes me weep for the future of our children
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> KM0201:  compared to all the other os's out.
[02:43] <r007> guis suck tbh but at least gnome is minimal
[02:44] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: well.. all i'll say.. Thank God for choice....lol
[02:44] <kk9822> i still cant fully install the prog
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> minimal - a buzzword that means very little.
[02:44] <chantal1987> Maahes: im on live cd. trying to copy my Desktop folder to windows partition. but im getting error about permission.
[02:44] <Maahes> chantal1987: that computer is not actively running its OS right? In other words, you're running from a live CD and you have mounted a hard drive that is not running any Operating System, be it windows or Ubuntu, right now?
[02:45] <kk9822> it says terminal .exe failed status c0000135
[02:45] <kk9822> what is this
[02:45] <KM0201> chantal1987: quick and dirty way... in a terminal   gksudo nautilus   choose the partition that your ubuntu is install, navigate to desktop, and copy/paste what you need on the xp partition...
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  what said that exactly?
[02:45] <XiaolinDraconis> ok im back
[02:45] <XiaolinDraconis> what was that about apt cache
[02:45] <Maahes> apt-cache <3
[02:45] <IdleOne> XiaolinDraconis: apt-cache show gnome-desktop-environment
[02:45] <sacarlson> gobus: example /dev/sda1   100gb  ntfs,  dev/sda2  12 gb unused,  the size you setup for what you need in ntfs and ubuntu is up to you
[02:46] <r007> apt-cache search
[02:46] <kk9822> the programme which i run metatrader 4
[02:46] <chantal1987> Maahes: ok will try that
[02:46] <IdleOne> XiaolinDraconis: if that is not what you want exactly I'm afraid there isn't anything that you want.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  not all windows exe's will work in wine. thats just life.
[02:46] <Godslastering> is it possible to upgrade from 9.10? or do i have to reinstall from an iso ?
[02:46] <kk9822> oooo
[02:46] <Maahes> sudo apt-cash install money --target my_wallet.
[02:46] <IdleOne> Godslastering: you can upgrade to 10.04
[02:47] <kk9822> ok can u tell how to work some of the pda prog to run which mainly uses windows
[02:47] <kk9822> pl
[02:47] <Godslastering> IdleOne: thats as far as i can go without a fresh isntall?
[02:47] <XiaolinDraconis> i guess i have to do gnome de and remove the other bits later
[02:47] <tripelb> Apple Newton 1993- $50 (Hollywood, CA)  http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/sys/2123279798.html
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> kk9822:  no idea what you are talking about. sorry.
[02:47] <XiaolinDraconis> does that come with nautilus?
[02:47] <IdleOne> Godslastering: after that you can go to 10.10
[02:47] <Maahes> kk9822: that sentence doesn't make any sense.
[02:47] <tripelb> oops
[02:47] <IdleOne> Godslastering: if you want to go directly to 10.10 you need to do a fresh install
[02:47] <kk9822> see i want to work with some share trading softwares
[02:47] <Godslastering> IdleOne: that works, do i just replace the karmic with...whatever 10.04 is and update-upgrade-dist-upgrade?
[02:48] <Valoe> ciao a tutti ;)
[02:48] <Godslastering> IdleOne: in the sources list?
[02:48] <bazhang> Godslastering, no
[02:48] <r007> kk9822 if it uses dot net forget about wine
[02:48] <Godslastering> bazhang: ah how do i do this then?
[02:48] <KM0201> JesusFreak316: interesting choice of a name.
[02:48] <_Tristan> I just got ip information for a server that I'm going to send off to a colocation center. How should I configure the os? http://pastebin.ca/2028614
[02:48] <IdleOne> Godslastering: no, open Update manager and it should offer to upgrade to 10.04
[02:48] <bazhang> !upgrade | Godslastering check this
[02:48] <kk9822> no it is .com
[02:48] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: Are you still on about that? Seriously, don't install a meta package, don't install a full DE at all, just install gtk applications you like. If you want to use some of the base gnome services: gnome-power-manager gnome-session-manager gnome-volume-manager and all their prerequisites.
[02:49] <r007> kk9822 .net as in m$ programming
[02:49] <Coolslai> km0201?
[02:49] <kk9822> ok
[02:49] <KM0201> Coolslai: sup
[02:49] <r007> kk9822 might be worth trying mono if it is
[02:49] <kk9822> what about mfc93.dll
[02:49] <kk9822> files
[02:50] <Coolslai> km0201 lol yay! nm srry i wasnt on last night, i had to clean and i have to go to church in 2 hours so yeah
[02:50] <Maahes> kk9822: are you trying to run windows applications in ubuntu? If so: you need wine. OR You need mono and the MS libraries for mono
[02:50] <XiaolinDraconis> ok so what do i need to start with? i just want to be able to boot up and open synaptic
[02:50] <Coolslai> km0201 currently i am on my home computer
[02:50] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
[02:50] <KM0201> Coolslai: ok.. i take it the other is still fubar?
[02:50] <XiaolinDraconis> this crazy apt cache is hurting my gui sensitive eyes
[02:50] <kk9822> i am using ubuntu and running windows applications
[02:50] <r007> kk9822 if its complaining about dll get the dll and put it in the fake program files dir and use an overide
[02:50] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: so you haven't built any root install at all yet? You're just using say minimal with nothing else?
[02:50] <tripelb> XiaolinDraconis, thanks for the --->gconftool -s --type bool /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false<-- help.  Laughing cause it's so not obvious. I need to learn how to do an alias in shell. I used to know how but that was decades ago.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> XiaolinDraconis:  if you 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' it will pull in the stuff needed to run synaptic...
[02:51] <Coolslai> km0201, havent hooked it up yet, i have to clean my room b4 i can work on it >.< lol
[02:51] <kk9822> can u pl give terminal command pl
[02:51] <XiaolinDraconis> im still in the mini.iso setup nothing is installed at all
[02:51] <KM0201> Coolslai: wel, i'll be up another few hours, and gone all day tomorrow if you want help
[02:51] <skraito> any one from asia down here ?
[02:51] <KM0201> but it shouldnt be that hard
[02:51] <Coolslai> km0201 and tomorrows christmas so gotta work on it after
[02:51] <KM0201> Coolslai: ok.. no hurry... we can do i sunday if you like... i'm on vacation till next wed.
[02:51] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: you want a power manager, a volume manager (ivman), and a session manager, maybe, and then install synaptic and it will pull everything else down
[02:51] <Coolslai> km0201 well, i have ubuntu dual booted on this computer
[02:51] <Maahes> then you can choose to run whatever window manager you want
[02:51] <KM0201> Coolslai: ok.
[02:52] <Coolslai> km0201 sunday should be fine, or monday
[02:52] <bazhang> skraito, offtopic here
[02:52] <Maahes> I recommend AwesomeWM or wmii, personally.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !info wmx
[02:52] <KM0201> Coolslai: ok.. just PM me here, or hit me up on hotmail, and we'll square the ohter one away.
[02:52] <KM0201> the other one will be fun.. :)
[02:52] <Coolslai> km0201 okay , no problem (:
[02:52] <KM0201> i dont think i've ever dealt w/ a PC that couldn't boot USB, Floppy, CD or Network..lol
[02:53] <Maahes> KM0201: that's called a locked down PC. :) You might be able to override its bios settings
[02:53] <KM0201> lol..
[02:53] <KM0201> Maahes: naa, cd drive is fubar... to old to support network or usb booting
[02:53] <r007> km0201 you havent worked with many pcs then
[02:53] <clausen> KM0201, or reprogram the BIOS somehow?  (jtag?)
[02:54] <KM0201> Maahes: we're gonna pull the hard drive, put it in a working PC... install ubuntu, then put it back in the fubar one.
[02:54] <Maahes> KM0201: and floppy?
[02:54] <KM0201> Maahes: no floppy drive
[02:54] <KM0201> r007: lol, i've built PC's for almost 10yrs
[02:54] <Maahes> .....why do you need this machine again? :P
[02:54] <KM0201> Maahes: it was just given to him, and he wants to try ubuntu on it
[02:54] <KM0201> it's just installing will be tricky
[02:55] <sacarlson> KM0201: if we ever find someone that can't boot with usb,floopy, cd or network,  I would like to try this plop http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[02:55] <r007> booting with usb depends on mobo
[02:55] <r007> not much these days fair enough
[02:55] <KM0201> sacarlson: unfortunately right now, the system is not bootable... because he tried dual booting and fubared windows... its a long story, i came in after the fubar
[02:55] <Coolslai> km0201 i need the server info, ima put it into my mIRC
[02:56] <Coolslai> km0201 ex: port #
[02:56] <KM0201> Coolslai: what server? you're here
[02:56] <Maahes> yeah, KM0201 I'd just go out and buy a new CD rom or floppy drive. Because you can go and install everything via another machine and put it back: But it's likely half your drivers will be missing, including network drivers. And then you'll have to find those packages, take the drive out again, manually extract them to the directory paths, and then put it back in, so now you can download the other drivers necessary. oi
[02:56] <sacarlson> KM0201: well if windows was working to some small degree it can also install plop
[02:56] <r007> km0201 whats building pcs got to do with administrating them anyway
[02:56] <Coolslai> lol this is the freenode chat, you have to have an irc server setup somewhere. km0201
[02:56] <dnivra> hello. i installed 10.10 and scheduled a shutdown using 'shutdown -r' at a particular time but forced my computer off before that time. now i cannot login into that 10.10 because the shutdown is still running. how can i cancel this?
[02:57] <KM0201> Coolslai: nope, i just hang out here. but we can do a private room, or do it by MSN.. doesn't matter
[02:57] <wizardslovak> any good app to shrink hard drive space?
[02:57] <KM0201> r007: my point is, i'm well aware of his problem after talking to him extensively yesterday
[02:57] <Coolslai> no lol you dont understand me. who haves "OPs" here?
[02:57] <Coolslai> no lol you dont understand me. who haves "OPs" here? km0201
[02:57] <KM0201> Coolslai: there's lots of OPS here?  why?
[02:58] <Maahes> Coolslai: Ops are semi secret until someone does something stupid.
[02:58] <Coolslai> km0201, i need the port number and the server name
[02:58] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
[02:58] <KM0201> Coolslai: hold on
[02:58] <Coolslai> maahes, i need the port number and the server name
[02:58] <Coolslai> km0201 ok ty
[02:58] <yasser_> Hello
[02:58] <Maahes> Coolslai: irc.freenode.org/6667
[02:58] <KM0201> Coolslai: irc.ubuntu.com/8001
[02:58] <KM0201> thats what i use
[02:58] <Maahes> Both of those are valid
[02:59] <KM0201> i don't realy know why you'd need that though, but go figure
[02:59] <r007> to pwn your box
[02:59] <KM0201> r007: lol, if he wants to.
[02:59] <Maahes> KM0201: He might be using the Webchat
[02:59] <Coolslai> trying now
[03:00] <Coolslai> km0201 maahes i am
[03:00] <KM0201> Maahes: maybe
[03:00] <klay> I got a real problem here.
[03:00] <dnivra> hello. i installed 10.10 and scheduled a shutdown using 'shutdown -r' at a particular time but forced my computer off before that time. now i cannot login into that 10.10 because the shutdown is still running. how can i cancel the shutdown?
[03:00] <XiaolinDraconis> so far i think i need gnome-core and gdm
[03:00] <Maahes> klay: do you have a real description?
[03:00] <klay> is their not a program to graphically edit what partionts can be mounted in ubunt
[03:00] <klay> it started like phy
[03:00] <klay> pyh
[03:00] <klay> its some program i used i cant remember the full name
[03:01] <Maahes> klay: gparted.
[03:01] <zoug> dnivra, you used crontab?
[03:01] <klay> not that simple
[03:01] <Maahes> its installed by default
[03:01] <klay> it was a little more detailed then gparted
[03:01] <XiaolinDraconis> gparted ainmt default in lucid
[03:01] <Maahes> klay: how?
[03:01] <klay> it had to do something with editing your fstab graphically
[03:01] <r007> dnivra hard reboot it
[03:01] <dnivra> zoug, no. from a terminal, i ran 'sudo shutdown -r 07:50' but i didn't cancel the shutdown before powering off the system.
[03:01] <IdleOne> klay: python-fstab
[03:01] <klay> i used it awhile ago when i rebuilt my machine
[03:02] <klay> no not really
[03:02] <XiaolinDraconis> pySDM
[03:02] <zoug> dnivra, just pkill shutdown from another tty?
[03:02] <klay> i think it was some other phy thing
[03:02] <dnivra> r007, well i tried powering off the normal way but it logged me out. i wasn't able to login so i hard rebooted it. but the shutdown is still running!!
[03:02] <IdleOne> klay: search in Synaptic Package Manager
[03:02] <XiaolinDraconis> PySDM for editing fstab
[03:02] <dnivra> zoug, i wish i could login but i can't :). 3 more minutes to shutdown and so no logins allowed i guess.
[03:03] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, menus are in /etc/xdg
[03:03] <darkwurm> You can edit fstab with just about anything
[03:03] <Maahes> dnivra: you can use a live cd to delete the crontab entry
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall PySDM really messing up fstab on some systems i tried it on in the past.. i would backup your original fstab first
[03:03] <Coolslai> XGummiBareX
[03:03] <klay> i had a list of all the programs i had installed but thats on the partition i cant acces right at this moment
[03:03] <zoug> dnivra, not that, press ctrl+alt+f2, then login
[03:03] <dnivra> Maahes, i didn't make a crontab entry. was it created automatically?
[03:03] <sacarlson> klay: like this? http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872197
[03:03] <Coolslai> yay im in here km0201
[03:03] <dnivra> zoug, yeah i can't login into any of the tty's from F1 to F6.
[03:03] <KM0201> Coolslai: you were in here before.. but.. ok
[03:03] <KM0201> lol
[03:04] <Coolslai> nope watch this
[03:04] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, menus are in /etc/xdg/menus
[03:04] <Maahes> dnivra: I am 98% certain that whatever you used to schedule the shutdown made a chrontab entry.
[03:05] <klay> gonna reboot of usb thumb to see if i can even access that partition
[03:05] <dnivra> Maahes, 'sudo shutdown -r 07:50' doesn't really create a crontab entry does it? what does the crontab entry look like?
[03:05] <Maahes> dnivra: you can also try to boot up in recovery mode
[03:05] <XiaolinDraconis> UnholyTerror, ive got a bigger fish im frying that menu thing has to wait
[03:05] <XGummiBareX> km0201 hey its Coolslai
[03:05] <dnivra> Maahes, okay and in recovery what can i do? kill the shutdown process?
[03:05] <Skopje75> hi
[03:05] <KM0201> XGummiBareX: uh... ok..
[03:05] <KM0201> lol
[03:05] <r007> in recovery the proc wont be running
[03:06] <XGummiBareX> km0201 watch this
[03:06] <KM0201> XGummiBareX: you're way to excited about this.
[03:06] <KM0201> lol
[03:06] <Coolslai> yupp
[03:06] <KM0201> but i'm glad you're excited
[03:06] <Coolslai> cuz now i can run scripts lol
[03:06] <zoug> dnivra, login another user?
[03:07] <dnivra> zoug, there are no other users :( just one. it's a desktop.
[03:07] <dnivra> zoug, and logins before shutdown are disabled right?
[03:07] <r007> dnivra sounds like you might have added whatever calls the shutdown to init
[03:07] <UnholyTerror> XiaolinDraconis, ok, just trying to figure it out. ;)
[03:07] <Skopje75> i have this line:  '/usr/share/ipprogram/lib:'               can someone tell me, in command "./configure   this ipprogram is instaled in /usr   or in /usr/share   ?
[03:07] <dnivra> r007, a crontab entry as Maahes said?
[03:08] <Maahes> dnivra: It looks what might have happened is you have a runlevel that's not resetting
[03:08] <zoug> dnivra, so recovery i guess
[03:08] <family> Can anyone help me with something i cant seem to figure out.
[03:08] <r007> dnivra unlikely a cron it would have to be in a running state to execute
[03:08] <family> i just installe ubuntu and in during the process it wouldnt work and then finally i typed something it which made the colors blue tinted when it booted and then everything installed smoothly but now everything is colored blue.
[03:09] <Maahes> dnivra: try recovery. Also try reading the man pages for shutdown, runlevel and init. You may have to edit /var/run/utmp
[03:09] <family> does anyone know how to solve thisÉ
[03:10] <dnivra> Maahes, r007 zoug okay recovery and editing /var/run/utmp. any other suggestions?
[03:10] <Fezzler> my Ubuntu Lucid is in big trouble
[03:10] <Coolslai> km0201 hi
[03:10] <KM0201> Coolslai: :)
[03:10] <Coolslai> km0201 wanna see something cool and annoying?
[03:10] <Fezzler> I was having trouble with audio so I uninstalled pulse audio and jackd related apps
[03:10] <KM0201> Coolslai: lol whatever
[03:10] <dnivra> Maahes, shouldn't /var/run/utmp contain something? the file is empty.
[03:11] <r007> dnivra yeah check the messages log to see what was being done during boot
[03:11] <Coolslai> km0201, now everytime you say something, it will be repeated to you in query lol
[03:11] <Fezzler> Now when I reboot, user login screen comes up, with no back drop, and it will not accept my login password
[03:11] <KM0201> huh?
[03:11] <dnivra> r007, oh yeah. thanks!
[03:11] <KM0201> Coolslai: yeah, that is annoying
[03:11] <Fezzler> Any emergency tips?
[03:11] <KM0201> turn that off
[03:11] <mork1> hi everyone, i want to ask something.i use natty ubuntu, my X usually crashed in the middle run. what happened?
[03:11] <Coolslai> km0201 lol i know isnt it? i turned i off for you lol
[03:11] <KM0201> lol
[03:11] <Maahes> dnivra: see init, the init daemon may be rerunning shutdown indefinitely.
[03:11] <Coolslai> ima go do dishes ill brb km0201
[03:12] <KM0201> have fun
[03:12] <Coolslai> km0201 lol ill try not to
[03:12] <dnivra> Maahes, okay then. guess i'll have to stop that. i'll check the logs to figure out what's wrong.
[03:12] <[thor]> mork1: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:13] <XiaolinDraconis> where do i find the GDM package in this list?
[03:13] <XiaolinDraconis> what category
[03:13] <mork1> thor: on my way, thanks
[03:13] <Fezzler> I hope I can repair this
[03:13] <dnivra> r007, what should i be looking for in the logs?
[03:13] <Maahes> dnivra: the log that has the last runlevel changes is /var/log/wtmp
[03:13] <Guest94049> who
[03:14] <KM0201> Fezzler: what are you trying to repair?
[03:14] <r007> dnvira grep it for kernel
[03:14] <dnivra> Maahes, yes-saw that in man pages-is the file in binary?
[03:14] <Fezzler> KM0201: login in
[03:14] <KM0201> Fezzler: login where?
[03:14] <Fezzler> KM0201: I was having trouble with audio.  I deleted apps with reference to pulse and jackd, rebooted for clean start
[03:14] <dnivra> r007, 1249 lines. a bit more specific if possible?
[03:15] <Maahes> dnivra: off the top of my head I can't say
[03:15] <dnivra> Maahes, okay :).
[03:15] <Fezzler> KM0201: when I rebooted, I get user login screen with no backdrop image and it doesn't accept my password
[03:15] <KM0201> Fezzler: can you boot recovery mode, and change your users password?
[03:16] <Fezzler> KMo
[03:16] <Sammi16> does anyone know how to install ubuntu 10.04 of an archos 9 here?
[03:16] <Fezzler> KM0201: I think so
[03:16] <MaindotC-LT> I'm connected wirelessly right now with network manager. How do I determine my current wireless configuration so I can reboot and put the correct settings in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:16] <KM0201> Fezzler: well, thats probably a good start
[03:16] <Fezzler> KM0201: Headed to mass.  I'll have fix when I return
[03:16] <KM0201> ok.
[03:16] <Fezzler> KM0201: No "restore point" in Ubuntu Lucid?
[03:16] <KM0201> Fezzler: i don't think so...
[03:16] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT:  you can use ifconfg  and iwconfig
[03:17] <_Tristan> ubuntu don't need no restore points, it's a real man
[03:17] <KM0201> _Tristan: i tend to agree.. i think restore points are silly
[03:17] <clausen> don't any linux filesystems support snapshots?
[03:17] <r007> waste of disk space
[03:17] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: I see what settings are in there but it doesn't seem to be enough to boot the wireless w/o network manager or I'm not using the proper command
[03:17] <_Tristan> well, they're totally legit for windows, when it sometimes decides not to boot
[03:17] <clausen> r007, copy on write?
[03:17] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT: oh you will also need route and contents of /etc/resolv.conf if you want static
[03:18] <clausen> I can't remember the last time I ran out of disk space
[03:18] <clausen> hard disks are too slow to run out of space
[03:18] <AnonOps_> 1999
[03:18] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: dhcp would be fine
[03:18] <dnivra> Maahes, about the cron entry you'd mentioned. where would that be located?
[03:18] <Maahes> dnivra: forget that, shutdown is probably the only program that you would use to do this, that does not use cron
[03:18] <r007> clausen I said a waste of nothing about running out
[03:18] <clausen> anyway, I think it is possible to do restore points
[03:19] <Maahes> shutdown works at the init runlevel
[03:19] <clausen> r007, if you don't run out, then it's a costless "waste"
[03:19] <Baxnie> hi, i've installed ubuntu 10.10 and my nvidia driver has stoped working, i get a blank screen on start, how can i solve it?
[03:19] <dnivra> Maahes, oh okay i see.
[03:19] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT: there are settings you can add in /etc/network/inferfaces that include essid and other but I would have to google them
[03:19] <nomad99> clausen: solaris ZFS does iirc
[03:19] <KM0201> Baxnie: how did you install the driver?
[03:19] <Maahes> if you've hosed your init scripts you might just want to about reinstalling the base inits. Also another thing you can do to poke around in that drive is chroot /mount/point that will log you into the drive as root
[03:19] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: how can I determine what key or protection/encryption I'm using
[03:20] <clausen> nomad99, LVM also seems to have some kind of support to
[03:20] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: I know I have to enter my username and password but I'm not sure where to find it to copy into the interfaces file :9
[03:20] <dnivra> Maahes, i thought about it-chroot and running 'shutdown -c'. have not done it yet. thought somebody might know a solution here.
[03:20] <Baxnie> KM0201: i've installed ubuntu 10.04, everything was working fine, then i upgraded to 10.10, it stopped working, i had recommended drivers
[03:20] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT: I think that should be seen in iwconfig  maybe other if you use wpa_suplicant
[03:20] <clausen> nomad99, btrfs?
[03:20] <clausen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning_file_system#Linux
[03:21] <Maahes> dnivra: honestly, now that I think about it, that is the first thing I would try
[03:21] <KM0201> Baxnie: hmm... no idea on that one... sorry... sounds like the upgrade didn't go as well as planned though
[03:21] <Hdale85> Wasn't there an ubuntu IRC channel soley for video stuff?
[03:21] <r007> baxnie can you boot from the earlier kernel?
[03:21] <dnivra> Maahes, i am doing that now :).
[03:21] <Maahes> easiest fix if it works
[03:21] <dnivra> let's hope so.
[03:21] <Maahes> Hdale85: there's ubuntustudio?
[03:21] <nomad99> clausen: sorry,not familiar with it,but iirc its linux port or equvialent,yes
[03:22] <Hdale85> Maahes, herm oh well I'm just trying to figure out how to setup a 1080i signal over component for my TV
[03:22] <Maahes> btrfs, nilfs, and zfs are all good options for setting up a versioning filesystem, in linux
[03:22] <Maahes> there's more you can mount via fuse as well
[03:22] <industrialphreak> it was called PySDM folks
[03:22] <industrialphreak> had to reboot and i tracked it down
[03:22] <Maahes> nilfs has had more development time than btrfs, just fyi
[03:23] <dnivra> Maahes, cannot find pid of shutdown :(.
[03:23] <Baxnie> r007: some time ago, i was able to login using recovery mode with failsafex, then i installed driver 173. everything worked fine. long time after it i decided to install newest drivers again, but i got the same thing. now i want to solve it properly
[03:23] <clausen> Maahes: thanks, good to know!  I guess it's unlikely any of these are going to be default for /
[03:23] <Maahes> also there's ext3-cow
[03:23] <clausen> oh
[03:23] <quiescens> dnivra: what is happening?
[03:23] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT: if you want to use wpa_suplicant in /etc/network/interfaces it is documented here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[03:23] <clausen> I didn't hear about ext3-cow... that could allow default installations of ubuntu to do restore points
[03:24] <Maahes> its more simplistic, but functional
[03:24] <clausen> Maahes, is it in the main kernel?
[03:24] <dnivra> quiescens, i scheduled a shutdown using 'shutdown -r' at a particular time but forced my computer off before that time. now i cannot login into that 10.10 because the shutdown is still running. how can i cancel the shutdown?
[03:24] <quiescens> dnivra: if you had something fail during a shutdown and can't log in, you can try to remove the file /etc/nologin
[03:24] <nomad99> dnivra: try " ps aux |grep -i shutdown" w/o quotes
[03:24] <Maahes> clausen: I believe ext3-cow, nilfs and btrfs are all in the main kernel
[03:24] <family> hello, im new to ubuntu and im having a problem that i cant seem to find an answer to. is anyone able to answer a question?
[03:24] <Maahes> dnivra: do you have htop installed on that drive?
[03:24] <r007> dnivra hard kill it pull the plug
[03:25] <dnivra> Maahes, no i do not.
[03:25] <quiescens> yes lets all chip in with answers without finding out what the problem is
[03:25] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: I don't think I have the time for that but I do appreciate your effort
[03:25] <dnivra> r007, well um that OS is not running :D. i'm in another 10.10 install now and chrooted into the malfunctioning one.
[03:25] <marcosroriz> hi
[03:25] <family> haha. is that a yes?
[03:25] <Maahes> dnivra: you know, shutdown probably isn't running because you didn't go through the init process.
[03:25] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: I think I'm going to try and find a way to move the network-manager debs onto a drive so I can install it on the machine that doesn't have network-manager
[03:25] <clausen> Maahes, apparently ext3 and ext3cow aren't on-disk compatible
[03:25] <dnivra> nomad99, awesome! i found something :D.
[03:26] <r007> dnivra ps aux | grep shutdown?
[03:26] <quiescens> dnivra: if you are now in recovery mode and have access to the filesystem, you can remove /etc/nologin which is the file which prevents logging in
[03:26] <clausen> Maahes, so, ext3-cow seems like a dead-end, until it gets merged into the mainline ext3
[03:26] <dnivra> r007, yeah.
[03:26] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT: just search that web page above for wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[03:26] <MaindotC-LT> sacarlson: ok
[03:26] <dnivra> quiescens, think that would be the reason why i can't login? or shutdown is in fact running?
[03:26] <sacarlson> MaindotC-LT: it's just 2 lines
[03:26] <Maahes> clausen: that'll never happen, it was a particular branch of ext3 made for a particular reason, not part of the main thrust of the fs
[03:27] <dnivra> nomad99, so i can kill that process? i've chrooted into the not-working install.
[03:27] <family> it seems like you guys are busy at the moment. Is there somewhere else i can go to find an answer?
[03:27] <trism> family: just ask your question to the channel, if someone knows the answer, they will respond
[03:27] <fuzion24> I have an SD card reader on my laptop (latitude e6410) and I inserted an SD card.  How can I tell where in devices that got mounted?
[03:27] <clausen> Maahes, fair enough... I guess default ubuntu installations won't be getting restore-points any time soon then
[03:28] <Maahes> family: unless you ask a question we can't even tell you if we can help you.
[03:28] <fuzion24> i did mount
[03:28] <nomad99> dnivra: then sudo kill PID# of shutdown procress. yes
[03:28] <r007> fuzion24 usually get mounted in /media
[03:28] <kdgrng> Hello all!
[03:29] <dnivra> nomad99, one question. how do i get the pid? is it listed in the output of the command? if so which field?
[03:29] <quiescens> clausen: btrfs should have snapshots in the nearish future
[03:29] <dnivra> nomad99, okay got it :).
[03:29] <fuzion24> r007, nothing there
[03:29] <Maahes> dnivra: pidof <process>
[03:29] <nomad99> dnivra: in ps aux output or htop,etc...
[03:29] <clausen> quiescens, but will ubuntu's installer use it by default?
[03:29] <dnivra> Maahes, remember shutdown isn't running? that's what the box reports :)
[03:29] <r007> dnivra the first 4 digit number
[03:29] <kdgrng> ps Al
[03:30] <Maahes> dnivra: then there's no way to get the pid.
[03:30] <quiescens> clausen: i would imagine it will eventually, but does not at the moment
[03:30] <Maahes> it has to be running.
[03:30] <dnivra> r007, there're two. i got which one.
[03:30] <clausen> quiescens, that's encouraging then :)
[03:30] <family> Thanks. well i tried to install ubuntu on my mac and i had some trouble for a while and it wouldn't work. then i tried inputting something at the boot screen and then it finally booted up but everything is tinted blue. so i installed it and everything but everything is tinted blue. i dont know how to change this and im not sure what i inputted.
[03:30] <r007> fuzion24 whats df show?
[03:30] <UnholyTerror> fuzion24, in a terminal type: mount
[03:30] <Maahes> you could also check your syslog to see what's going on.
[03:30] <dnivra> Maahes, ps -aux lists it :) 4012 running on pts/0. i think it's right. worth a shot.
[03:30] <r007> dnivra one is the grep command
[03:30] <quiescens> dnivra: for the 3rd time, could you check if there is a /etc/nologin on the filesystem of the system in question
[03:31] <dnivra> nomad99, can't kill it.
[03:31] <Burst^> Anyone know where i can get software to download... need some older software anyone know of a server / channel??
[03:31] <dnivra> quiescens, yes it says 'The system is going to reboot in 3 minutes'.
[03:31] <quiescens> dnivra: then, for the 3rd time, try removing the file
[03:31] <dnivra> quiescens, was typing it out when few suggestions popped up :).
[03:31] <clausen> anyone know a way to bunch up terminal IO, so that packets are sent at regular intervals?
[03:31] <family> any ideas?
[03:31] <dnivra> quentusrex, alright will do. be back soon.
[03:32] <clausen> (I'm worried about timing attacks)
[03:32] <Maahes> family: that's really not a lot of information that can be helped with. You might try installing your graphics drivers again, or looking at /var/log/syslog or /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[03:32] <family> Okay. would i maybe be able to see what i input there?
[03:32] <sacarlson> Burst^: synaptic works for me,  older software?  like for ubuntu older then end of life?
[03:32] <Maahes> family: no, but you might see what's making the screen blue
[03:32] <XiaolinDraconis> wow
[03:32] <Maahes> look for video driver errors
[03:33] <XiaolinDraconis> i think it was that easy
[03:33] <family> okay, how to i get to that. is that a terminal command?
[03:33] <KM0201> XiaolinDraconis: what was?
[03:33] <fuzion24> r007, mount doesn't show the device at all let alone mounted anywhere
[03:33] <pepez> Hi, using "loadkeys" what is better to use for an uk or us keyboard? loadkeys us or loadkeys qwerty/us? using spanish keyboard I need to  specify qwerty/es, any idea?
[03:33] <Maahes> family: I recommend you use nautilus to go to the /var/log/ folder and open them up with gedit
[03:33] <XiaolinDraconis> checked gnome-core, firefox, software center, GDM,  and maybe one other thing
[03:34] <XiaolinDraconis> oh and plymouth
[03:34] <Maahes> plymouth is terrible, don't install it. :P
[03:34] <r007> fuzion24 its not mounted then
[03:34] <Maahes> only thing more terrible is OSD.
[03:34] <XiaolinDraconis> lol i like flashy stuff
[03:35] <XiaolinDraconis> oh and compiz
[03:35] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: the old login can be flashy
[03:35] <XiaolinDraconis> wait ... plymouth handles the login?
 gdm should do it
[03:35] <XiaolinDraconis> thought that was GDM
[03:35] <family> I apologize im really new to this. what is nautilus?
[03:35] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: I mean bootup screen, prior to logging in
[03:35] <Maahes> family: the file browser
[03:36] <XiaolinDraconis> whew
[03:36] <dnivra> Maahes: r007 quiescens nomad99 thanks for your help guys! quiescens was right-deleting the nologin worked :). thanks mate! should've listened to you earlier.
[03:36] <[8-bit][Pixel]> how can i change incoming font formats on xchat so that all the font colors are the same (since some people use annoying scripts)
[03:36] <XiaolinDraconis> family, its the file manager
[03:36] <XiaolinDraconis> when u browse folders
[03:36] <Maahes> dnivra: no problem :)
[03:36] <coz_> family, so if you go to Places   "Home folder"  that is nautilus
[03:36] <Maahes> [8-bit][Pixel]: go to the colors menu of X-chat
[03:36] <Coolslai> km0201 hello
[03:36] <family> ah okay thanks
[03:37] <r007> dnivra np merry xmas
[03:37] <coz_> family,  nautilus is your file manager
[03:37] <dob_> YEAH, BIG problem now. After upgrading from karmic to lucid, i am not able to login anymore.
[03:37] <KM0201> Coolslai: you bounce in and out a lot
[03:37] <KM0201> lol
[03:37] <fuzion24> right, im pretty sure its not mounted because its not formated
[03:37] <fuzion24> i cant see it in /dev either though
[03:37] <rinku_kokiri> hey guys, anyone figure out how to have flash play audio while something else is paused?
[03:37] <Coolslai> km0201 yeah i kno lol
[03:37] <rinku_kokiri> because i still have this issue
[03:37] <Maahes> dob_: more information that please, what happens
[03:37] <[8-bit][Pixel]> Maahes: that does not make all of the colors one color if you know what i mean, people use fonts, scripts, backgrounds, highlights, etc... i dont want that
[03:37] <dob_> I can enter my username and my password
[03:37] <dob_> then nothing comes up
[03:37] <dob_> booting to rescue works
[03:37] <dob_> and i can work as root
[03:38] <Maahes> [8-bit][Pixel]: X-chat has the ability to turn all that off in the colors section.
[03:38] <rinku_kokiri> or rather, how do I make anything play audio while flash is paused?
[03:38] <r007> fuzion24 does fdsik -l show it?
[03:38] <rinku_kokiri> seems to be a huuuuuuuge bug huh
[03:38] <family> so should i search my computer for that /var/log/syslog?
[03:38] <[8-bit][Pixel]> Maahes: i'm not seeing that in the colors section
[03:38] <rinku_kokiri> or does no one care / know the answer?
[03:38] <Maahes> family: just go to the folder /var/log
[03:38] <XiaolinDraconis> rinku_kokiri, never had a problem like that
[03:39] <family> hmm i dont see that
[03:39] <rinku_kokiri> so you have NO problem playing audio with, say, amarok, while you have a youtube window open?
[03:39] <XiaolinDraconis> nope
[03:39] <dob_> i am really worried about that issue, cause it's my main server....
[03:39] <[8-bit][Pixel]> rinku_kokiri: i used to have those problems, it's a driver issue
[03:39] <XiaolinDraconis> ive had 3 things playing audio at once
[03:39] <rinku_kokiri> hrm, cause google and ubuntu forums say it's a flash issue
[03:40] <wizardslovak> i cannot mount one of my partitions
[03:40] <wizardslovak> any help?
[03:40] <[8-bit][Pixel]> rinku_kokiri: for me, it was an audio driver issue
[03:40] <XiaolinDraconis> it would piss me off since im on kongregate while listening to music a lot
[03:40] <rinku_kokiri> well I do have a dolby HDA audio card
[03:40] <bucky> family, type cat /var/log/syslog in a terminal
[03:40] <rinku_kokiri> but it never had this problem before flash 10
[03:40] <al_nz1> whats the command to work out which desktop ui I am using?
[03:40] <rinku_kokiri> so i suspect flash << usually always the issue anyway
[03:40] <r007> family tail would be better than cat
[03:41] <family> than you
[03:41] <family> thank you*
[03:42] <dewman> hey there, I am trying to figure out a login issue, when i type in my password in xfce, it seems to take but then it logs back out. I have an error in .xsession-errors that says it cant open display....I have re-installed the nvidia current driver but that doesnt seem to help.... any ideas?
[03:42] <r007> dewman can you login at run level 3
[03:43] <dob_> any ideas why the login to my ubuntu server is not possible after the upgrade to lucid from karmic?
[03:43] <rinku_kokiri> I mean have you actually TRIED to play audio through amarok while a youtube video is up/on??
[03:43] <dewman> r007, hmmm...Not sure how I would do that.... Can you pint me in that direction?
[03:43] <rinku_kokiri> or are you just going by "never had the /chance/ to have the problem"
[03:43] <dewman> err.. point.
[03:43] <trism> family: you may want to check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Maverick#Colors , found a similar link it a forum post about blue tint on a mac
[03:43] <r007> dewman google Linux run levels
[03:44] <Maahes> [8-bit][Pixel]: Check the input menu
[03:44] <family> oh  thats great thanks
[03:44] <r007> dewman if you can login at cli then its a X issue
[03:44] <rinku_kokiri> would it help if i told you that this issue is on two different computers, with different audio cards and all too?
[03:46] <[8-bit][Pixel]> Maahes: no offense, it doesn't really help when i've looked through all of the options already and you're randomly telling me to check different options
[03:46] <kenny__> hello is enyone good with ubuntu netbook remix problems?
[03:47] <dewman> r007, so kill gdm and then restart gdm? yeah, that doesnt work,.
[03:47] <r007> dewman no
[03:47] <rinku_kokiri> so that's it?? i have a sound issue with Flash on Two different pieces of hardware and it's a driver problem?
[03:47] <r007> dewman if your not willing to learn what run levels are Im not willing to help
[03:47] <kenny__> hello/
[03:47] <kenny__> ?
[03:48] <kenny__> can anyone help me with ubuntu netbook remix i have some problems related to drivers
[03:48] <dewman> r007, yeah thats a good attitude to take...I was just asking for some assistance.
[03:49] <bastidrazor> !runlevel
[03:49] <recpartition> Hi. I had to do a hard reset and that has apparently hosed my entire lvm. I was able to fsck the root logical volume, but not the home. I can't boot into the system and tell it to recreate user files from scratch because it looks for some files from that very partition.  I seem to remember from when I used x-chat, there being a setting to do that, but I cannot find it in the docs. I recommend asking in #xchat
[03:49] <bastidrazor> r007: maybe you need to wash your mouth out instead
[03:50] <rinku_kokiri> !language
[03:50] <rinku_kokiri> ops ARE watching
[03:50] <r007> think I should go back to a real Linux distro lol
[03:50] <r007> sorry for the language
[03:51] <r007> but you cant be expected to hold peoples hands through every step
[03:51] <recpartition> if there's a way to recover from corrupt superblock, that would be good too.
[03:51] <dob_> found the problem with login. If i start winbind. I am not able to login
[03:51] <Maahes> r007: that last attitude? Please do so. If ubuntu is not "real" enough. And yes you can't expect to hold everyone's hand, but there are politer ways to do so.
[03:51] <rinku_kokiri> now, maybe someone can help me figure out this stupid flash problem
[03:51] <rinku_kokiri> i play sound in flash, i cannot play sound in anything else
[03:52] <rinku_kokiri> and vice versa
[03:52] <Maahes> rinku_kokiri: have you googled "pulse audio flash" ?
[03:52] <rinku_kokiri> yeah but didn't result in anything useful
[03:52] <r007> Maahes yes there are politer ways but not when they dont have a polite response to your advise
[03:53] <rinku_kokiri> just a bunch of forums that contained "this may help"
[03:53] <dewman> r007, how was I not polite?
[03:53] <Khisanth> hmm switching to pulse worked out quite well for me, even got rid of the other problem of not being able to pause a video for too long
[03:53] <silent-zephyr> hi
[03:54] <recpartition> i get a "file too large" error when trying to mount a home logical volume. fsck gives The filesystem revision is apparently too high for this version of e2fsck.
[03:54] <recpartition> (Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt)
[03:54] <dewman> I was asking for some help....Thats it.....Just like everyone else in here...
[03:54] <dob_> That was my bug with the login: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/584428
[03:54] <rinku_kokiri> dewman, whats the issue?
[03:54] <r007> sorry dewman just reread what you posted words can be taken so differently when theres no emotion
[03:55] <daniel_> hi'
[03:55] <daniel_> hello
[03:55] <daniel_> hello
[03:55] <rams> i want to play some song while the file operations are taking place. How can i do it??
[03:56] <daniel_> end the programme
[03:56] <Quantum_Ion> rams, you mean an mp3 player like vlc or streaming radio ?
[03:56] <rams> i want to play some song while the file operations are taking place. How can i do it??
[03:57] <Maahes> rinku_kokiri: Well, brief googling myself. Try installing the latest flash player from adobe's website.
[03:57] <rinku_kokiri> meh
[03:57] <rinku_kokiri> thanks
[03:57] <rams> Quantum_Ion, yeah. something like that
[03:57] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[03:57] <Maahes> rinku_kokiri: its literally the same package, just newer
[03:57] <rinku_kokiri> rams you can prolly do it with aplay but itll have to be wav form
[03:57] <Quantum_Ion> rams, So you want something like the Linux version of iTunes ?
[03:57] <Maahes> it installs the same files.
[03:58] <rinku_kokiri> =/
[03:58] <lawrence> exit
[03:58] <Maahes> rams: what do you mean by "file operations"?
[03:58] <mt1mma> Wireless disconnects after some random time, why is it?
[03:58] <systematical> anyone ever install ubuntu using an external usb hard drive?
[03:58] <Maahes> If you're doing really intensive cpu tasks? You're not going to be able to play music very well at the same time.
[03:58] <systematical> Will it work or must it be a thumb drive?
[03:58] <rinku_kokiri> compile kernel :D
[03:58] <rams> Maahes, yes
[03:58] <rinku_kokiri> play music
[03:58] <Maahes> systematical: running off one now
 no but have installed fedora its just like using a live cd
[03:59] <rams> Quantum_Ion, i dont know much about itunes
[03:59] <Maahes> systematical: as opposed to what?
[03:59] <rinku_kokiri> rams, you *could* fire up an iPod :D
[03:59] <systematical> Just wondering
[03:59] <Quantum_Ion> rams, Did you try RythmBox ?
[04:00] <Maahes> systematical: no I mean, as opposed to what else would you install it on other than a thumb drive, for usb install?
[04:00] <rinku_kokiri> ipod
[04:00] <rinku_kokiri> phone
[04:00] <rinku_kokiri> external hdd
[04:00] <rinku_kokiri> etc?
[04:00] <FloodBot2> rinku_kokiri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <Maahes> you would not want to do that
[04:00] <systematical> never done it before and bought my girl one of those tiny eepc's for xmas
[04:00] <rinku_kokiri> i've gotten ubuntu runningn on my 5th gen ipod video that's screen took a pos
[04:01] <Maahes> systematical: its stupidly easy. Just grab an iso, and grab the installer from pendrivelinux.com
[04:01] <Maahes> 3 clicks and your done
[04:01] <rinku_kokiri> worked just fine till I dropped it and the mobo cracked
[04:01] <rams> Quantum_Ion, when ever we right click and copy a folder and paste it somewhere else, we get a window naming File Operations, i want to play come song during those file operations
[04:01] <XiaolinDraconis> after checking repo i notice palm support. what about pocket pc?
[04:01] <rinku_kokiri> you could also go with a SDHC memory card
[04:01] <recpartition> i get a "file too large" error when trying to mount a home logical volume. fsck gives The filesystem revision is apparently too high for this version of e2fsck. (Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt). is there something else to try?
[04:01] <systematical> Nah I want to install it on the netbook itself, but it has no cdrom drive
[04:01] <rams> rinku_kokiri, i did not get you
[04:02] <Maahes> rams: ah. I see, Yes you could do this, but you'd have to see the gnome docs for what processes are being called while you do that, and then you would have to write a script yourself.
[04:02] <Quantum_Ion> rams, Try this http://alternativeto.net/software/rhythmbox/
 how are you mounting and what file system?
[04:02] <rinku_kokiri> rams i thought i saw you say you may be doing "extensive cpu tasks" so i suggested using an external piece of hardware, such as a portable media player
[04:03] <Quantum_Ion> Banshee or RhythmBox
[04:03] <rinku_kokiri> Or amarok
[04:03] <rams> Maahes, where can i find those gnome doc? I know scripting
[04:03] <Maahes> rams: you may even need to read up in the source code. Basically: you need to understand gnome's internals.
[04:03] <Maahes> rams: gnome.org
[04:03] <Quantum_Ion> sudo -i apt-get install amarok
[04:03] <recpartition> r007: it is a logical volume from an lvm volume group. FS is ext4. mounting by sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu-home /dev/media/drive
[04:04] <Amtrask> Hello all, I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834214022 . However after I select Install Ubuntu on the alternate install CD/USB, the screen goes black and never comes back. I have tried nomodeset, vga=771, xforcevesa, and no luck. Any ideas?
[04:04] <rinku_kokiri> rams, you *could* use aplay but then again, it would have to be in wavform
[04:04] <Skopje75> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1083902208.png
[04:04] <Skopje75> lol
[04:04] <Skopje75> :)
[04:04] <FloodBot2> Skopje75: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <Quantum_Ion> I am going to try amarok and see how I like it right now
[04:04] <rinku_kokiri> and you *would* have to edit some things internally
[04:04] <Maahes> Amtrask: did you try the normal install?
 try a -t ext
[04:04] <Quantum_Ion> I had an apple and a cup of water for dinner
[04:05] <Maahes> Quantum_Ion: you don't wanna know what I had ^_^
[04:05] <rams> rinku_kokiri, let it be, i just wanted to play some sound, i am not bothered about the format of audio
[04:05] <Amtrask> Maahes I did not, however I want to install everything on an encrypted loopback dealy (crypto+lvm)
[04:05] <Quantum_Ion> Maahes, Let me guess a Snickers Bar and a can of Coke ?
[04:05] <Maahes> Amtrask: you can go back over it with truecrypt, or there's an option to encrypt your home dir
[04:06] <recpartition> r007: "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext'" trying with ext4 gives the same "file too large" error.
[04:06] <Amtrask> Maahes TC has system encryption for Linux now? I was unaware
[04:06] <Maahes> Quantum_Ion: Mashedpotates with gravy, green beans, sliced ham stuffing, and home made candied yams.
 and thats from  sudo mount -t ext /dev/mapper/ubuntu-home /dev/media/drive
[04:06] <Quantum_Ion> Maahes, WOW What a FEAST !
[04:07] <Maahes> Amtrask: yupyup :). I dunno if the windows client does, but the truecrypt package does.
[04:07] <rinku_kokiri> there's a whole list of mp3  apps on this page for perusal
[04:07] <rinku_kokiri> http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/
[04:07] <recpartition> r007: yep
 hmm have you tried fsck it and then trying to mount?
[04:07] <Maahes> Amtrask: I'm not sure however if it requires more mucking about to make it work
[04:08] <Maahes> r007: that's what she said
[04:08] <r007> when?
[04:08] <recpartition> r007: fsck can't seem to handle it either. it gives "fsck.ext4: Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/mapper/ubuntu-home The filesystem revision is apparently too high for this version of e2fsck. (Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt)
[04:08] <Maahes> ...I guess that's mostly an american and british joke?
[04:08] <r007> didnt see that message
[04:08] <Amtrask> Maahes I will check that out, thanks
[04:08] <recpartition> and running it with -b 8193 doesn't work either
[04:09] <Maahes> Amtrask: np ^_^
[04:09] <recpartition> whatever that does, this is way over my basic linux knowledge
[04:09] <Maahes> I don't think e2fsck can handle ext4
[04:09] <recpartition> Maahes: well it seemed to fix the root logical volume...
[04:10] <XiaolinDraconis> any suggestions on what else i might need on a minimal install?
[04:10] <recpartition> is there something else to try?
[04:10] <Maahes> *shrugs* then maybe I'm wrong.
 tbh sounds like the drives feked
[04:10] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: do you have installed right now, and what would you be looking for more of?
[04:10] <recpartition> r007: i know :/ this is not good at all
[04:11] <recpartition> a reinstall would be reasonably quick, but some of the data...
[04:11] <rinku_kokiri> all this mucking about trying to get flash to play while i'm playing wow made me forget which youtube video i was trying to play in the first place
[04:12] <XiaolinDraconis> i have gnome-core metacity nautilus firefox compiz gdm synaptic and im looking for basic functionality i guess
[04:12] <recpartition> this was before i learned about magic sysreq too...
[04:12] <rinku_kokiri> then flash crashes opera
[04:12] <rinku_kokiri> GREAT JOB ADOBE
[04:12] <XiaolinDraconis> any of the small conveniences i may be missing
[04:12] <recpartition> XiaolinDraconis: network manager?
[04:12] <cowslammer> how do i download and install new themes?  what do i do with the tar.gz file that donwloads?
 what version of ubuntu are you mounting from?
[04:12] <recpartition> 10.10 (live)
[04:12] <XiaolinDraconis> i believe i have gnome-network thingy
[04:13] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: If you like terminal apps. I recommend weechat, shellfm, vim, pianobar (if you're in the us), sup, tmux, and urxvt, the patched kind not the one in the ubuntu repos, look for a ppa. there's also mpoc. And like I said I recommend AwesomeWM and wmii
[04:13] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: make sure you have the exact network-manager package
[04:14] <XiaolinDraconis> k ill confirm that
[04:14] <cowslammer> how do i download install new themes?  what do i do with the tar.gz file that donwloads?
[04:14] <ayanami> ho
[04:14] <Maahes> cowslammer: open the Appearance program under preferences, and drag and drop them
[04:14] <XiaolinDraconis> and no this will be a very basic system capable of playing my retro roms and a few other games
[04:15] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: Desmume, psX, zsnes, no$gba.
[04:16] <Maahes> there's also a saturn and genesis emulator in the repos
 it looks like the drives knackered or beyond repair to me
[04:16] <XiaolinDraconis> oh yeah i got the emulators covered mostly
[04:16] <recpartition> r007: thanks for trying.
[04:16] <rinku_kokiri> cwiid << wiimote app
 np
[04:16] <rinku_kokiri> uses bluetooth
[04:16] <XiaolinDraconis> nes snes atari sega n64 dosbox
 hope you get it sorted
[04:16] <recpartition> now excuse me while i scream for a little while
[04:17] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: no$gba is the best gba/nds emulator around, fyi
[04:17] <recpartition> i'm going to go and reinstall everything
[04:17] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont see network-manager in installed list but i may be looking in wrong category
[04:17] <XiaolinDraconis> i need that
[04:17] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: just do sudo apt-get install network-manger if it's installed already nothing will install
[04:17] <XiaolinDraconis> have a tekken rom needs ds emu
[04:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i havent booted yet
[04:18] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: just bear in mind, for ds "Best around" isn't great.
[04:18] <XiaolinDraconis> still on mini.iso
[04:19] <Maahes> It's impossible for me to play Castlevania or that one rpg driven entirely with the stylus
[04:19] <Maahes> tomorrow something something
[04:19] <XiaolinDraconis> dont know that one
[04:20] <XiaolinDraconis> ive never played arena or daggerfall cant wait to try em out
[04:20] <XiaolinDraconis> where do i find network-manager on the mini.iso setup?
[04:20] <XiaolinDraconis> i think its a dependency of gnome-network thingy
[04:21] <r007> should be installed by default on a minimum install
[04:21] <XiaolinDraconis> i think so
[04:21] <rinku_kokiri> unrelated non problem>> amarok, gtkpod and banshee would NOT manage my iPod, .... so... I installed gnupod-tools  << best thing i evr done,
[04:22] <XiaolinDraconis> well ill find out im booting now
[04:22] <r007> the gnome network manager will be installed with gnom
[04:23] <XiaolinDraconis> gnome-core
[04:23] <splink_> Mic Check
[04:23] <r007> should be included in that package
[04:23] <XiaolinDraconis> k
[04:23] <xerox780> who can help me install MF beta 8?
[04:23] <XiaolinDraconis> does imagebin.ca still work?
[04:24] <r007> if its not learn ifconfig
[04:24] <splink> whois splink
[04:24] <JackyChao> My network is unstable, what's the problem??
[04:25] <ayanami> .
[04:25] <XiaolinDraconis> lol
[04:25] <XiaolinDraconis> ifconfig eh
[04:25] <splink> quit
[04:25] <r007> the skys a different shade of blue today whats the problem?
[04:25] <splink> lol sorry
[04:25] <ayanami> .
[04:25] <XiaolinDraconis> havent done that for years
[04:25] <XiaolinDraconis> not sine 500mhz cpu n puppy
[04:26] <xerox780> lol its empty cuz christmas eve
[04:26] <Quantum_Ion> amarok is not bad
[04:26] <rinku_kokiri> bah humbug
[04:26] <kdgrng_> hello all
[04:26] <Quantum_Ion> yeah I need to go to sleep too
[04:26] <XiaolinDraconis> 333 packages i should have it
[04:26] <Quantum_Ion> Christmas Eve early sleep
[04:27] <Quantum_Ion> No Santa at my house tonight
[04:27] <xerox780> who can help me install firefox beta 8?
[04:27] <r007> Quantum_Ion dont want to catch santa emptying his sack do you lol
[04:27] <XiaolinDraconis> my girl n mother-in-law is staying up all night waiting for a ham to cook
[04:27] <jkoby> what happened to #cafe-ubuntu?
[04:27] <XiaolinDraconis> 32 lb ham
[04:27] <Quantum_Ion> r007, ahahaha lol funny
[04:27] <XiaolinDraconis> lmmfao@r007
[04:28] <jkoby> ohwait.
[04:28] <rinku_kokiri> story of santa originated as Odin << pagan god  lawl   but offtopic
[04:28] <pj`> santa was a mystical troll
[04:28] <sacarlson> xerox780: what does it require?  ppa?  synaptic?  compile your own?
[04:29] <rinku_kokiri> that ate children
[04:29] <rinku_kokiri> yule logs <<
[04:29] <r007> xerox780 you should be able to extract it and run firefox bin
[04:30] <xerox780> roo7 extract the bz2?
[04:30] <r007> yes
[04:30] <pj`> if i catch santa breaking into my house im calling the cops
[04:30] <rinku_kokiri> I'll do it right along with you
[04:31] <XiaolinDraconis> www.imagebin.ca   try this site anyone tell me if its just me or not?
[04:31] <XiaolinDraconis> i cant load it for some reason
[04:31] <pj`> XiaolinDraconis, http://imageshack.us
[04:31] <nsl> I am getting the error "Libgcrypt warning: missing initialization - please fix the application" in my 10.4 box
[04:32] <xerox780> roo7: nothing happens when I click firefox bin
[04:32] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah i know thnx pj
[04:32] <rinku_kokiri> may have to +x it
[04:32] <pj`> xerox780, run it in a term and see the error
[04:33] <xerox780> pj`: like "open with" terminal?
[04:33] <pj`> no open a terminal and ./firefox.bin or what ever the name
[04:33] <rinku_kokiri> error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:34] <kdgrng_> hello all
[04:34] <rinku_kokiri> you could run
[04:34] <rinku_kokiri> run-mozilla.sh
[04:34] <rinku_kokiri> or view the readme
[04:35] <r007> firefox shouldnt need to be installed it should just run if you execute the binary
[04:35] <rinku_kokiri> running run-mozilla results in :cannot execute
[04:35] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: apears to be broken form here in thailand and no port 80 responce from <IP_ADDRESS> as returned from ping ok
[04:35] <rinku_kokiri> r007, should and do are two different things though :D
[04:35] <XiaolinDraconis> thnx
[04:36] <r007> rinku_kokiri so tru lol
[04:36] <XiaolinDraconis> so this is how i want my livecd to appear
[04:36] <XiaolinDraconis> http://img10.imageshack.us/i/screenshotmni.png/
[04:36] <TuXeS> hello, if i install Unity netbook on maverick. Can i switch between gnome an unity. Also, will it be safe to un-install unity if i want.?
[04:36] <XiaolinDraconis> minus conky and all the extra apps
[04:36] <coz_> TuXeS,   well if it is the entire unity  yes   duringlog in
[04:36] <XiaolinDraconis> just the gnome theme and firefox plus my emulators
[04:36] <coz_> TuXeS,   but if you wan t the entire thing you could install natty
[04:37] <TuXeS> and as for uninstalling coz_?
[04:37] <coz_> TuXeS,  but.... I am not sure if  installing  unity on maverick will be the same at log on
[04:37] <coz_> TuXeS,   uninstalling?   well   I am running natty here  as an install
[04:38] <coz_> TuXeS,  it works fine in both  unity desktop or classic gnome
[04:38] <TuXeS> im just worried all mess up my gnome maverick install
[04:38] <coz_> Tukano,  but it is alpha after all
[04:38] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: nice what gnome profile is that?
[04:38] <rinku_kokiri> interesting.. it complained about loading a library that is in the directory the bin is in <<< firefox beta 8
[04:38] <XiaolinDraconis> if u mean theme its Azenis
[04:38] <rinku_kokiri> haha
[04:38] <coz_> TuXeS,   well then I would suggest  either backing things up  first  and giving it a try... or run natty  in vm
[04:38] <r007> firefox fail
[04:38] <rinku_kokiri> forget "firefox-bin" and run firefox
[04:38] <rinku_kokiri> it's right next to it and works
[04:38] <coz_> TuXeS,  oh wait..i dont think it will work in vm  sorry
[04:39] <TuXeS> oh
[04:39] <rinku_kokiri> and hey it' doesn't look like opera :D
[04:39] <coz_> TuXeS,   do you have  external media you can back your stuff up with ?
[04:39] <rinku_kokiri> and if you leave the old one as is, it's still useable
[04:39] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[04:40] <TuXeS> yea, but i have nevered backed up a Linux distro. so im not sure on that
[04:40] <bullgard> Nautilus shows at the bottom in the status line: "7 items, Free space: 370.8 GB." What storage medium does this apply to?
[04:40] <coz_> TuXeS,  well I was just suggesting backing up things like bookmarks  pictures  etc
[04:40] <XiaolinDraconis> forget the fast user switch app
[04:41] <r007> bullgard depends on your partition srtup
[04:41] <TuXeS> oh, i have nothing like that i care to back up
[04:41] <coz_> bullgard,  the one ubuntu is installed on unless you opend  or have a second hard drive or some media
[04:41] <rinku_kokiri> wouldn't a simple dd if=/dev/sd[your root] of=/dev/sd[backuploc] work for that?
[04:41] <TuXeS> hehe
[04:41] <TuXeS> i just start over
[04:41] <TuXeS> >:_
[04:41] <TuXeS> )
[04:41] <coz_> TuXeS,  ah ok...mmm then this is a tuff c hoice for you....
[04:41] <bullgard> r007: What is a "srtup"?
[04:41] <rinku_kokiri> I has a seperate /home part
[04:41] <r007> startup
[04:41] <coz_> TuXeS,  that is the other alternative yes :)
[04:42] <r007> bullgard setup even
[04:42] <coz_> TuXeS,   my phylosophy is " if you cannot reinstall at any given moment ,,, you are doing something wrong "  :)
[04:42] <bullgard> r007: Ah!
[04:42] <TuXeS> good philosophy
[04:42] <rinku_kokiri> offtopic!    youtube has a "different homepage"
[04:42] <r007> my philosphy is if you need to reinstall your a .....
[04:43] <rinku_kokiri> Experimental YouTube homepage
[04:43] <bullgard> coz_: Thank you.
[04:43] <rinku_kokiri> but eet looks the same
[04:43] <pj`> wow ff beta 8 looks nice
[04:44] <coz_> rinku_kokiri,  well when you experiment with off the wall applications...compile things that most likely shouldnt be compiled  then things change :)
[04:44] <rinku_kokiri> ?
[04:44] <rinku_kokiri> where did that come from?
[04:44] <r007> coz_ thats what test servers are for
[04:44]  * skraito brb
[04:44] <coz_> rinku_kokiri,   sorry wrong person
[04:44] <rinku_kokiri> heh
[04:44] <coz_> r007,   yeah that was meant for you
[04:44] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: I'm going to try that,  but one more question where is this file in step 1. 1. Download the file and place on your desktop
[04:45] <coz_> r007,   sounds reasonable...but the people I deal with  generally are not even aware of the concept of "computer" "server"
[04:45] <rinku_kokiri> r007, my philosophy is if it takes longer to fix than it does to re-install.... reinstall
[04:45] <XiaolinDraconis> sacarlson, u asking where to get it?
[04:46] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: Ya I googled and found part of it
[04:46] <r007> rinku_kokiri yeah but you have to think how long it will save you in the long run if you learn what happened
[04:46] <rinku_kokiri> coz_, my wife thinks the whole case including everything inside is the "hard drive"
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> gnome-look.org  and search azenis             i got the theme pack
[04:47] <rinku_kokiri> r007, yeah
[04:47] <XiaolinDraconis> azenis 0.2
[04:47] <coz_> rinku_kokiri,  ah then you understand what I mean :)
[04:47] <rinku_kokiri> :D