[19:28] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, i suppose usb3 would be faster, as its mostly the slow sequential read and writes from most flash drives
[19:28] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, tbh most last years
[19:28] <urlin2u> tp43, what ever you do make an image of the 11.04 in case there is a problem, clonezilla works very nicely.
[19:28] <roscar> I might pester this channel a bit more depending on how my equivs experience goes.\
[19:28] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Does running Ubuntu damage the hard drive?
[19:29] <tp43> these: /dev/shm, /var/run, and /var/lock never use more than 100mb as far as I can tell, can I change the alot they get of 700mb to 200mb?
[19:29] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, none of mine have ever messed  up. ive still got a 1gb from 7 yeats ago workign fine
[19:29] <gregj> any ideas why it says I'm running out of disk space, despite me having over 1GB free? http://pastebin.com/9Uk7GYV9
[19:29] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, no it doesnt damage it... why would it?
[19:29] <jost> how to make a script run on boot and stop on shutdown? The script contains an endless loop, so it never stops by itself.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: what are you running to generate the error?
[19:29] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: From having to write a lot.
[19:29] <gregj> jost: read about sysV
[19:29] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, you mean damage the flash drive?
[19:29] <LABcrab> Mmhmm.
[19:30] <freaky[t]> ActionParsnip: im using the ubuntu upgrade tool. it automatically starts when the GUI loaded up.
[19:30] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, well it'd wear it down faster than if you was just storing data on it. but they should still last years
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> LABcrab: if you put a lot of temp stuff on a platter based drive or tempfs, it will last a good while
[19:30] <urlin2u> gregj, is that a usb or the HD, never the less that is to small of buffer for not overfilling it.
[19:31] <freaky[t]> ActionParsnip:  wait I think i can fix the problem. simply install the held package kdevelop :D
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: HD
[19:31] <LABcrab> It is still faster than a floppy disc?
[19:31] <LABcrab> *disk
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: I have plenty of space as you can see there
[19:31] <freaky[t]> ActionParsnip: it's installing
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: but are you running a command in terminal?
[19:31] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, also bear in mind as I said theyren ot designed for continuous read / writes
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: its a netbook with 8GB SSD
[19:31] <Gentoo64> they dont have special controllers like ssds have
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: nice :-)
[19:31] <urlin2u> gregj, the genral advice is only 70% fullyour way beyond that.
[19:31] <Gentoo64> just cheap plain memory
[19:31] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: SSDs cost a lot.
[19:31] <Gentoo64> yeah ofc, for a reason
[19:31] <Pici> !ot
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: yeah, but i still have plenty enough
[19:32] <urlin2u> gregj, do you its not working?
[19:32] <th^2> oCean, how i can launch ctrix by hand?
[19:32] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, ofc its faster than a floppy disk what are you talking about lol
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: what you mean
[19:32] <Pici> Gentoo64, LABcrab: Can we move the hardware discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: yes, but I can't imagine that it magically used 1.4GB in 2s
[19:32] <urlin2u> gregj, exspand the partition if you can.
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: dd can't fill it that quick
[19:32] <Gentoo64> Pici, sorry hes on about installing ubuntu to flash drive, so i thought it waso n topic
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: it is already filling out the whole disk
[19:33] <gregj> urlin2u: that's an 8GB disk, with one partitino
[19:33] <urlin2u> gregj, and tha is your problem.
[19:33] <Pici> Gentoo64: It was, but you've both sort of diregressed :)
[19:33] <wunschname> urban_grandier
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> gregj: try: sudo apt-get clean   if its a
[19:33] <Gentoo64> Pici, yeah soz
[19:33] <gregj> ActionParsnip: I did
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> An OS partition
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Cool
[19:33] <LABcrab> But if i create a live CD that burns to my USB, i can't create individual accounts on that live USB.
[19:33] <gregj> ActionParsnip: that doesn't help either
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> gregj: re
[19:33] <gregj> ActionParsnip: it just makes it re-download the deb
[19:33] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, if its live, then itl be run from ram
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Removed old kernels?
[19:34] <oCean> th^2: hm, doing this from memory, i think there is a wfica.sh, and a wfmgr (or something) both should be able to start from the cmdline
[19:34] <gregj> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure if I should touch them
[19:35] <gregj> ActionParsnip: this happens automatically over and over again whenever there's an update.
[19:35] <LABcrab> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ and http://www.linutop.com/
[19:35] <th^2> oCean, no i cannot find anything by that name
[19:36] <khameis> #linuxac
[19:36] <gregj> ActionParsnip: and I can't uninstall anything, it complains about that upgrade being broken now
[19:36] <oCean> th^2: ok, I'm sorry I have this no longer installed. But I'm sure since I used it with previous employer (so on ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04)
[19:36] <joms> hi
[19:37] <th^2> oCean, okay. thx
[19:37] <AndChat-> gregj: hmm. Can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install      please
[19:37] <gregj> AndChat-: sure
[19:37] <oCean> th^2: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[19:37] <th^2> these are the little things that makes windows look very tempting :D
[19:38] <jakub1236> hi
[19:38] <oCean> th^2: no no
[19:38] <oCean> :)
[19:38] <th^2> oCean, :D
[19:38] <urlin2u> th^2, virus, malware and all eh. :D
[19:38] <gregj> AndChat-: http://pastebin.com/icMF1TkA
[19:39] <th^2> ActionParsnip, actually not that one. dont know why but my desktop just started working by installing .deb
[19:39] <AndChat-> th^2: as the song goes: Every OS sucks (and blows)
[19:39] <th^2> oCean, i mean
[19:39] <joms> hi
[19:40] <th^2> urlin2u, thats true. my desktop ubuntu install has come a long way from 6.04
[19:40] <th^2> no windows install has ever survived that long
[19:40] <AndChat-> gregj: 'no space left on device' is a massive clue
[19:41] <gregj> AndChat-: http://pastebin.com/HBEStk7N
[19:41] <gregj> AndChat-: and that's even bigger one ;)
[19:42] <AndChat-> gregj: can you pastebin the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:42] <roscar> http://pastebin.com/yPW1NYDu I'm hoping to get help using equivs to solve this problem Notably lines 26 and 27. My main issue is not being sure how to use equivs properly. jrib, your helpful self still around?
[19:42] <gregj> AndChat-: I think I cracked it
[19:42] <tp43> How do you see the dashboard?
[19:42] <gregj> AndChat-: there was plenty of old headers in /usr/src from previous version of ubuntu and 2.6.x kernels
[19:43] <AndChat-> gregj: what was the hammer?
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: its amazing that dpkg didn't remove those
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: but still, I have tons of space
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: so wtf
[19:43] <AndChat-> gregj: yes, remove old kernels and they go bye bye
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: yum
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: yup
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: ok, thanks nonetheless :)
[19:44] <jacobin> hello
[19:45] <Gentoo64> jacobin, hi
[19:45] <AndChat-> Hi jacobin
[19:45] <jacobin> howa are you all
[19:45] <Gentoo64> ok you
[19:45] <AndChat-> Tired
[19:46] <Gentoo64> AndChat-, you actionparsnip?
[19:46] <ubuntunoob> hey can i get  "ubuntu cloak" ?
[19:46] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, yes#freenode
[19:46] <Gentoo64> ask in there
[19:46] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: What about a USB OS like Jolicloud or etc.?
[19:46] <ubuntunoob> ok
[19:46] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, no idea
[19:46] <Gentoo64> prob the same speed, just different os
[19:46] <Gentoo64> and data is stored in cloud in joli afaik, but i dont kniow anything about it
[19:47] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: yeah. Blackspot kicks me off and my alternate nick is AndChat as thats the client I'm using
[19:47] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:47] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, why does it have to be on flash drive btw?
[19:48] <AndChat-> LABcrab: a sweet OS to boot off USB is xpud.  Just runs in ram and pulls thing from the storage when needed. You'd have to ask in the jolicloud channel for real answers
[19:51] <th^2> yes yes im sorry :D
[19:51] <oCean> webnet: that was a little redundant :(
[19:51] <th^2> this has to be an american channel?
[19:51] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, what do you want from the os? just general use?
[19:51] <LABcrab> Can i use the Ubuntu USB creator for ISO files?
[19:51] <Gentoo64> i didnt know you could get a windows refund btw
[19:51] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Quick web browsing.
[19:51] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, use chromium os
[19:51] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:51] <webnet> haha. i saw that. sorry. i was typing slow. and by the time i typed it like 18 people already said it. sorry oCean :)
[19:51] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Toshiba's making it a pita, Acer makes it a walk in the park.
[19:52] <oCean> webnet: nvm, no problem
[19:52] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/
[19:52] <Gentoo64> thatll be fine on usb
[19:52] <Gentoo64> and what you need
[19:53] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Hmm.
[19:53] <Gentoo64> well, youd get quick web browsing, nothign more, and it has usb builds there
[19:53] <Gentoo64> and itd be fast on usb i assume
[19:53] <Gentoo64> idk google it
[19:54] <AndChat-> LABcrab: use unetbootin as an alternative. You could also try tinycore, puppy, slitaz or xpud. All are super light
[19:55] <th^2> should locate find everything?
[19:55] <AndChat-> th^2: after you run: sudo update-db    yes
[19:55] <pim_> Hi, why does ubuntu require I reboot after updating?
[19:56] <Gentoo64> pim_, what update? kernel?
[19:56] <pim_> no not kernel
[19:56] <Gentoo64> or graphics drivers something like that
[19:56] <AndChat-> pim_: its to boot a new kernel or load a new proprietory dri
[19:56] <pim_> It can unload and load the kernel modules?
[19:56] <AndChat-> pim_: its not really required
[19:56] <benbloom> pim_: in the latest update there are very low level modifications that require a full restart to implement
[19:57] <pim_> benbloom in the latest kernel?
[19:57] <freeman_> Всем привет)
[19:57] <Gentoo64> pim_, reboot is normally easier. theres ways round it but normally just reboot
[19:57] <th^2> AndChat-, i sudo whaat?
[19:57] <red_> hi i cant get my webcam to work in flash
[19:57] <LABcrab> AndChat-: There's so many choices.
[19:57] <Gentoo64> th^2, that command should update the filel ist
[19:57] <benbloom> i guess your question was a bit unclear pim_
[19:57] <Gentoo64> to use locate with
[19:57] <freeman_> Кто нибудь русский язык знает?)
[19:57] <Gentoo64> !ru
[19:57] <Gentoo64> :s
[19:58] <Gentoo64> am i right?
[19:58] <sylwae> hi all
[19:58] <freeman_> привет)
[19:58] <th^2> Gentoo64, update-db?
[19:58] <pim_> benbloom that is not unlikely
[19:58] <Gentoo64> th^2, yeah i think so
[19:58] <freeman_> У кого операционая система Ylmf OS 3.0?
[19:58] <red_> hi ny one help with flash please?
[19:59] <benbloom> double negatives only make things more complicated
[19:59] <th^2> Gentoo64, well my setup doesnt know that command
[19:59] <AndChat-> th^2: locate uses a database of files, if they have changed then the database is inaccurate, the command updates the database so the new files and removed files are appreciated
[19:59] <Gentoo64> th^2, you could use find command
[19:59] <sylwae> is it normal to have better read performance on SSD when my laptop i only on battery ?
[19:59] <th^2> Gentoo64, is it the same as locate?
[19:59] <AndChat-> freeman_: ylmf is not supported here
[19:59] <Gentoo64> th^2, find / -name blah
[19:59] <Gentoo64> will search root for exact name
[20:00] <drij> hi! can someone hopefully help? in Ubuntu 11.10 I'm trying to see pidgin icon in the system tray. but it won't appear even after setting systray-whitelist to ['all'] and restarting ... :(
[20:00] <Gentoo64> th^2, gnome should have some search gui tool btw
[20:00] <benbloom> I find the usb-creator app to be sluggish and buggy. is there any reason not to use partition editor to set up usb partitions and then rsync the files from mounted iso to the drive?
[20:00] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: add sudo and it supresses access denied messages
[20:00] <Gentoo64> yeah
[20:00] <Gentoo64> sorry im so used to running stuff as root lol
[20:01] <Gentoo64> forget to mention sudo
[20:01] <th^2> Gentoo64, i dont want GUI :S have always used locate but this is a new install
[20:01] <AndChat-> benbloom: it adds a bootloader to the device. Have you tried unetbootin?
[20:01] <Gentoo64> th^2, well both commands will find stuff
[20:01] <truefx> how to join lazarus channel ?
[20:01] <im> ok
[20:01] <im> thanks
[20:01] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: i hope not web browsers ;-)
[20:02] <Gentoo64> truefx, if it's called #lazaurus then /join #lazaurus
[20:02] <urlin2u> benbloom, you need as bootloader, I heard that the latest ubuntu iso can be dd and booted never tried though. There is unetbootin and other usb loaders.
[20:02] <Gentoo64> AndChat-, ofc not lol only stuff that _needs_ it
[20:02] <urlin2u> as=a
[20:02] <Gentoo64> chromium refuses to run as root anyway :)
[20:02] <benbloom> nope AndChat- i will look at unetbootin. is there no way to manually add  bootloader?
[20:03] <AndChat-> benbloom: sure but if an app can do it for you, why pull your hair trying to get it right
[20:03] <urlin2u> benbloom, you don't need to there are very good loaders check out multisystm at pendrivelinux as well.
[20:04] <benbloom> k. thanks for the leads. I'm looking at those three
[20:04] <urlin2u> benbloom, this one lets you load multiple iso's. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[20:06] <skegeek> I just did a fresh install a day ago and I noticed if it's unattended for a while, the screen turns off and it refuses to come back. I have to push the power button to reboot. Is this a known issue?
[20:06] <benbloom> is it me or is usb-creator just a bad app? why is it the default canonical flashdrive maker?
[20:07] <Gentoo64> skegeek, ive heard of it
[20:07] <Gentoo64> dno the fix
[20:07] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone get kernel panic from the latest kernel 3.0.0-14?  i never had any on 11.10 but within 1 day got one
[20:07] <Gentoo64> AndroidLoverInSF, do you use any custom drivers?
[20:07] <AndChat-> benbloom: usb-creator is in a default install but doesn't mean much
[20:07] <AndroidLoverInSF> not really unless its graphics driver
[20:08] <Gentoo64> AndroidLoverInSF, probably better to post on forum
[20:08] <Gentoo64> or google on it
[20:08] <AndroidLoverInSF> ok i'll try
[20:08] <skegeek> I just changed the power setting, see if that helps.
[20:08] <LINCE10> CIAO
[20:08] <AndChat-> AndroidLoverInSF: which gpu are you using
[20:09] <LINCE10> !LIST
[20:09] <Gentoo64> !list | LINCE10
[20:09] <urlin2u> benbloom, never liked it myself.
[20:09] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: please don't tell people to google, the channel may as well not exist if we just say that to everyone
[20:10] <Gentoo64> yeah ofc, but kernel panic can be specific
[20:10] <benbloom> I keep finding that many of the (k)ubuntu default apps are much less well constructed than many alternatives. makes me wonder y they are chosen above others?
[20:11] <Gentoo64> benbloom, some people like them. i think all the kde stuff is tacky
[20:12] <Gentoo64> a lot of them are kde de bundled though to be more complete de
[20:13] <AndChat-> benbloom: you can't please them all. I use minimal now and build up rather than wasting time gutting the apps i simply don't use or prefer an alternative to
[20:13] <benbloom> i prefer the kdm to gdm though, and unity nearly caused me to have a brain hemmorage
[20:13] <RokcStar> hey
[20:13] <AndChat-> Hi RokcStar
[20:13] <AndroidLoverInSF> AndChat: NVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory GPU
[20:14] <benbloom> yes AndChat- i'm headed in that direction now. i've got enough of a handle on the linux concept. only thing is apt has totally spoiled me
[20:14] <LABcrab> An unformatted drive = one with no partitions?  i miss them floppy days.  :'(
[20:14] <AndroidLoverInSF> i think kde apps are more functional than gnome apps or at least gnome apps in unity. but kde is less stable than gnome or unity
[20:14] <AndChat-> AndroidLoverInSF: boot to an ok kernel, remove proprietary driver, boot to newest kernel and then reinstall the driver
[20:15] <Gentoo64> LABcrab: you miss floppys? lol
[20:15] <Gentoo64> i couldnt stand them when they were even the norm
[20:15] <AndChat-> I find kde to be fine but gvfs is awesome
[20:15] <RokcStar> how are kde apps more functional but less stable?
[20:15] <AndroidLoverInSF> thanks for the tip
[20:15] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Not so much floppies, but the memories from floppy days, and just how things were less complicated back then.  i was actually one of the first at my school to use a flash drive, when it was 128 MB.
[20:16] <LABcrab> For fifty bucks.
[20:16] <benbloom> lol Gentoo64, remember that aweful sound they'd make? like a sad fart
[20:16] <balachmar> Hi, has anybody here tried to install ubuntu on btrfs raid10?
[20:16] <LABcrab> benbloom: LOL.
[20:16] <chz|bacon> hey guys anyone here willing to lend me a hand with some mdadm questions?
[20:16] <AndChat-> I have a PATA Zip drive in a box. 250mb baby, yeah!
[20:16] <Gentoo64> benbloom: hmm i dont remember the sound of them actually. rememver it being weird though
[20:17] <Kurdistan> hey. I justed switched from distro x to ubuntu. I saved my home directery. now I can not make any changes does folder/file
[20:17] <Gentoo64> AndChat-: heh i forgot about zip drives
[20:17] <AndroidLoverInSF> for instance, in firefox, in unity you cant right click on bookmark menu and open in a new tab. but in kde firefox can. and kde plasma desktop sometimes gets stuck when i click on the 'start menu'
[20:17] <Kurdistan> only read/watch/listen but can not delete etc
[20:17] <jrib> Kurdistan: you need to make sure your user owns the files in his home
[20:17] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: i remember reading about ZIP drives like they were the real deal!  AndChat-.
[20:17] <jellow> can I run a jail inside a jail?
[20:17] <Kurdistan> jrib thats the problem
[20:17] <Kurdistan> how can I make myself the owner?
[20:17] <jrib> Kurdistan: boot into recovery mode and use chown.  Do you know how?
[20:18] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[20:18] <jrib> !permissions > Kurdistan
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: sudo chown you /home/user
[20:18] <Gentoo64> should sort it
[20:18] <RokcStar> oh
[20:18] <Pici> LABcrab, Gentoo64: Please, this channel is already busy enough, #ubuntu-offtopic exists for this sort of thing.
[20:18] <Kurdistan> jrib I am reading that.
[20:18] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: LABcrab: and jazz drives :-)
[20:18] <Kurdistan> Gentoo64, is that all?
[20:18] <jrib> Kurdistan: it should be recursive (like AndChat- suggested)
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: try it..
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: ohh chown -R
[20:18] <jrib> Kurdistan: Gentoo64's suggestion will likely not be enough
[20:18] <Gentoo64> sorry!
[20:18] <Gentoo64> yeah chown -R
[20:19] <RokcStar> i switched from gnome ubuntu to kubuntu and i've noticed that menus load much quicker
[20:19]  * AndChat- wishes he was a parsnip
[20:19] <Kurdistan> jrib, that you gave me was long.
[20:19] <jrib> Kurdistan: what?
[20:19] <Kurdistan> what exactly should I focus reading?
[20:19] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: what do youj mean
[20:19] <RokcStar> the overall feel of kubuntu is more rapid than gnome on ubuntu
[20:20] <AndChat-> RokcStar: afaik, a lot of the libs are preloaded. I could be wrong
[20:20] <cablop> i wonder how safe is home folder encryption on ubuntu
[20:20] <MahaVishnu> RokcStar, and fluxbox on ubuntu is even faster than that.
[20:20] <Gentoo64> i think ubuntu uses some sort of prelink by default
[20:20] <jrib> Kurdistan: you should understand all of it, it is not long.  Focus on the part about ownership...
[20:20] <RokcStar> i've never tried flux
[20:20] <MahaVishnu> RokcStar, its the best WM imho
[20:20] <Gentoo64> and openbox is faster than fluxbox. de wars
[20:20] <Gentoo64> !fight
[20:20] <askreet> dwm ftw.
[20:20] <Kurdistan> jrib, I am running xubuntu.
[20:20] <AndChat-> MahaVishnu: and awesome is flwm is faster still :-)
[20:20] <askreet> I use dwm at work anyway..
[20:20] <jrib> Kurdistan: that's fine
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> fluxbox ftw. ;-P
[20:21] <RokcStar> wait i meant Xubuntu...not kubuntu. my bad
[20:21] <Gentoo64> RokcStar: xubuntu will be faster then gnome yeah
[20:21] <cablop> i am using gnome3... with a dirty trick... Avant Window Navigator to replace the dock
[20:21] <cablop> :P
[20:21] <cablop> it works
[20:21] <AndChat-> *box ftw
[20:21] <LABcrab> Pici: my question was simply: unformatted = no partitions?
[20:21] <Gentoo64> xbox?
[20:21] <oCean> Enough. If you want a usability discussion, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> cd /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> lol!
[20:21] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Not by much.
[20:21] <askreet> ...lol
[20:21] <askreet> i've done that before. :(
[20:22] <RokcStar> does anyone even bother with theme applications like emerald and other things that just totally make things sluggish?
[20:22] <MahaVishnu> wrong window ;-(
[20:22] <Pici> LABcrab: You were talking about the noises that floppy drives make
[20:22] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: flux|open|black
[20:22] <LABcrab> Pici: No, someone else brought that up, and i added a few comments here and there.
[20:22] <Kurdistan> jrib, I read it. can I change ownship for folder and all the files in it?
[20:22] <oCean> RokcStar: do you have an actual tech support question? This channel is not for general discussion
[20:22] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: thats what the -R does
[20:23] <Kurdistan> I am lost. is there not any easy way?
[20:23] <AndChat-> LABcrab: there are vids online of people making music with floppy read/writes. There's a really good Imperial March one
[20:23] <jrib> Kurdistan: one command is the easy way
[20:23] <oCean> AndChat-: come on!
[20:23] <Pici> AndChat-: That goes for you too, offtopic chatter belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, not #ubuntu
[20:23] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: what is easier than one command?
[20:24] <bashnerd1> Kurdistan: man chown ;)
[20:24] <LABcrab> AndChat-: i bet.  i'm getting JoliCloud.  Just wondering: unformatted = unpartitioned?
[20:24] <AndChat-> Pici: oCean: understood
[20:24] <LABcrab> What is the difference between "unformatted", "formatted" and "IBM formatted"?
[20:24] <Kurdistan> gksudo thunar worked
[20:24] <Kurdistan> but will it work if I end it?
[20:25] <MahaVishnu> Kurdistan, you are being very daft right now, you have been told multiple times how to fix your problem (IN THE EASIEST WAY TOO)
[20:25] <LABcrab> :'(
[20:25] <Kurdistan> MahaVishnu, and that is reading a pages?
[20:25] <Kurdistan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[20:25] <MahaVishnu> Kurdistan, no sir its using the command you were given.
[20:25] <Kurdistan> read yourself and tell me how to fix it
[20:26] <MahaVishnu> they gave you that link, so you can learn about the operating system you are using
[20:26] <Pici> Unknow: Please take a nick and stick with it.
[20:26] <MahaVishnu> Kurdistan, I know how to fix it, I knew before they told you. but guess what? I saw them tell you also.
[20:26] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: well yeah, you are running the file browser as root so permissions aren't an issue. Your user will still not be able to save data until it is the owner of its own $HOME
[20:26] <jrib> Kurdistan: two people gave you the command, the page is so you understand what you are doing if you care to
[20:27] <MahaVishnu> some people just don't care to listen.
[20:28] <joshteam> hmmm anyone know the apt-get package for java jdk?
[20:28] <Kurdistan> jrib, you said one of the command line was not enough
[20:28] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: to make the OS work, you will need to run EVERYTHING with gksudo which I am very sure is longer and harder (sic) than one command
[20:28] <jrib> Kurdistan: and said the other was.
[20:28] <Barbariandude> joshteam, if I remember right the package is sun-java6-jdk
[20:28] <Kurdistan> jrib, I most missed it.
[20:28] <MahaVishnu> o_O
[20:28] <Kurdistan> which was the other one?
[20:28] <joshteam> Barbariandude:  nope :(
[20:29] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: once more. The command you need is:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[20:29] <jrib> Kurdistan: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[20:29] <Barbariandude> joshteam, lemme check my packages, 2 secs
[20:29] <joshteam> thanks Barbariandude
[20:29] <Kurdistan> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME <<---- jrib ?
[20:29] <MahaVishnu> joshteam, just type sudo apt-cache search jdk in a terminal
[20:29] <jrib> Kurdistan: sure, as your user
[20:29] <jellow> Hi Im in a jail without root , I want to run Screen but it needs /dev/pts , How can I tell it to use somethign else?
[20:30] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: run that and you will have significantly fewer problems
[20:30] <MahaVishnu> joshteam, if you learn to fish for your self you, you will catch many fat salmon :-)
[20:30] <Kurdistan> jrib, instead of user I should choose my username?
[20:30] <jrib> Kurdistan: $USER will automatically be replaced with your username
[20:30] <Kurdistan> jrib, thx.
[20:30] <joshteam> MahaVishnu: good call; found it and installing thanks a ton
[20:30] <MahaVishnu> joshteam, no problemo ;-)
[20:30] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: $USER and $HOME will change for you
[20:31] <Kurdistan> chown: kan inte komma åt "/home/myusername/.gvfs": Åtkomst nekas
[20:31] <AndChat-> Dead handy variables
[20:31] <jrib> Kurdistan: that's fine
[20:31] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, it did not work.
[20:31] <Barbariandude> joshteam, according to my apt-cache, it's what I said it was
[20:31] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: it did, that will happen
[20:31] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, okey. I will see.
[20:32] <benbloom> why would an item install via apt-get and then not show up anywhere on the system?
[20:32] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: try things now as you expect
[20:32] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, :) thx dude.
[20:32] <AndChat-> See
[20:32] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, it worked.
[20:32] <Pici> benbloom: What package?
[20:32] <Barbariandude> benbloom, try showing hidden files on your home directory
[20:32] <benbloom> multiboot
[20:32] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: i did tell you ;-)
[20:32] <Pici> benbloom: You can use dpkg -L packagename to see what files were installed for that package.
[20:33] <benbloom> it was in the repository, so i figured it'd show up in my $PATH if i
[20:33] <benbloom> ahhh ty pici
[20:33] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, you saved me a lot of time.
[20:33] <Kurdistan> many thx.
[20:33] <Barbariandude> Pici, useful, gotta remember that one
[20:33] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: the ownerships were all out of whack, you just set the owner to your user in ubuntu
[20:34] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: its the quick way from earlier, remember?
[20:34] <benbloom> so there doesn;t seem to be a binary when i looked at dpkg -L multiboot
[20:34] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, true.
[20:34] <Kurdistan> :)
[20:34] <AndChat-> ;-)
[20:34] <mutes> hw do i make a drive auto mount at startup?
[20:35] <mutes> how*
[20:35] <BluesKaj> !fstab | mutes
[20:35] <jellow> to create a chroot jail do I need root?
[20:35] <mutes> cool, thanks
[20:37] <Kurdistan> what is the difference between nvidia current and the other nvidia current?
[20:37] <Kurdistan> is the other one like x-swat ppa with the latest stable?
[20:38] <LABcrab> Ciao!
[20:39] <brightspark> Does the command-line system (an option on the alternate installer) provide for multiple virtual terminals (ie the ctrl-alt-f# feature)?
[20:40] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, yea tty has nothing to do with X
[20:40] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, thanks
[20:41] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, and you can always install that and later on install a GUI.
[20:41] <MahaVishnu> if you decide you want one.
[20:42] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, that is what I am thinking- I'm on Maverick and hated Unity when I tried it, so I'm thinking of moving to command-line when I upgrade and checking out fluxbox, xfce, lxde, etc.
[20:42] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, fluxbox !
[20:43] <MahaVishnu> xfce is nice too.
[20:43] <joshteam> hmm, I just upgraded Ubuntu to 11.10 and now when I do things like run Firefox I get this error message each time: http://pastebin.com/BrebkB6i any ideas?
[20:44] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, I read that for some of these (openbox and I think fluxbox too) you can only edit settings by modifying text files- seems a bit crude.
[20:44] <Lordveda> hello world
[20:44] <GaRRu> Any Smart web designer would like to answer some questions of mine?
[20:44] <Barbariandude> !nounity | brightspark
[20:45] <Lordveda> I am trying to learn php5, I need to know how to make apache2 work with my php5 web pages in order to learn
[20:45] <Barbariandude> !anyone | GaRRu
[20:45] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, yea but its so easy really. keybindings go in ~/.fluxbox/keys and startup apps go in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[20:45] <MahaVishnu> its actually very easy.
[20:46] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, and there is an app to change your theme / icons / font from a gui. and some other gui programs to change stuff ( yoiu might need to download them seperatly from xfce though )
[20:46] <MahaVishnu> err fluxbox.
[20:46] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, I'm certainly going to try it out, when Maverick reaches end-of-life if not sooner.
[20:46] <brightspark> Oh I see.  Thanks
[20:47] <GaRRu> !details
[20:47] <dgs> i'm running lucid, and having issues where ubuntu keeps 'correcting' my server time on reboot. (It's a requirement for this server to have the time set 12 hours out from the actual time). I've removed the ntpdate package but it still keeps correcting the time. (Possibly coming from the bios time + timezone or something)
[20:47] <dgs> anyone have any idea how I can stop it doing this?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> Kurdistan, there's only one nvidia-current for your card , the other depends on the kernel module that other nvidias might need
[20:48] <Barbariandude> dgs, did you set timezone on setup?
[20:48] <oCean> Lordveda: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[20:48] <Barbariandude> dgs, sorry, stupid question now I think of it :P will start digging
[20:48] <llutz> dgs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[20:48] <t132> can someone tell me how to setup  filezilla
[20:49] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, jockey installed nvidia legacy driver
[20:49] <Kurdistan> I needed to change to nvidia current
[20:49] <BluesKaj> Kurdistan, did you choose the recommended driver ?
[20:49] <Kurdistan> my nvidia card :) have some bad moment. damn nvidia developer. lazy people.
[20:49] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, yes.
[20:49] <dgs> llutz, yup, so that sets it to the correct time (for that timezone). I need it to remain at the *incorrect* time that I've specified
[20:50] <GaRRu> I have problems with Wicd, It disconnects from the net after some time with no usage. How can I disable the disconnect feature? im running ubuntu 11.04
[20:50] <GaRRu> kde
[20:50] <MahaVishnu> haha Kurdistan if you had an ati card it would be even worse.
[20:50] <brightspark> joshteam, try running "killall gconfd-2" in a terminal to have the daemon respawn
[20:50] <GaRRu> kubuntu*
[20:50] <llutz> dgs: you have to setup the timezone to one corresponding the time you want to have
[20:50] <Kurdistan> nvidia geforce go 7400 have difficultis to run unity becuase it is blacklisted.
[20:50] <cannonfodda> alt f2 has stopped working. nothing happens 11.10 gnome shell. any ideas?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card , and which driver was installed, Kurdistan?
[20:50] <Barbariandude> dgs, can't you just fudge the timezone? Does it need to stay correct?
[20:50] <Kurdistan> I looked to nvnews they say the upcoming driver will fix.
[20:51] <Jack`> i i need some help i am installing ubuntu in expert mode but i need to choose a kernel  now i need to know what is best      linux-generic       linux-image-generic  or linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[20:51] <dgs> it needs to be Etc/UTC for some software packages to work correctly
[20:51] <dgs> which we're trying to get fixed, but in the interim . . . the 'solution' is to offset the actual time
[20:52] <llutz> dgs: some services have own timezone setting (like CRON_TZ)
[20:52] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=b9baf96c84fafe3ce031f93dbd59578c&t=160115
[20:52] <Kurdistan> you will understand
[20:52] <Jack`> hi i need some help i am installing ubuntu in expert mode but i need to choose a kernel  now i need to know what is best      linux-generic       linux-image-generic  or linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[20:52] <Barbariandude> !patience | Jack`
[20:52] <brightspark> Jack`, I'm not sure of the exact difference between the first two, the last one specifies the version, I don't think it will update automatically.
[20:53] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, because of that nvidia legacy is recommended from ubuntu. but nvidia legacy kind of suck. :)
[20:53] <Jack`> uhu
[20:53] <t132> anyone know how to setup file zilla
[20:53] <t132> ?
[20:53] <Jack`> humzzz not done a long time
[20:53] <Barbariandude> t132, what's causing you problems in the setup?
[20:53] <dgs> llutz, actually, I take that back -  dpkg-reconfigure tzdata didn't change the time - I just hadn't changed it from the last reboot
[20:54] <Jack`> so i think i cant help you i have mi own troubles so
[20:54] <Jack`> :P
[20:54] <Jack`> brightspark i think i whill just go with the first :P
[20:54] <t132> no i just installed it,trying to send some files to a friend
[20:54] <Jack`> a do you have a acount with thet friend
[20:54] <brightspark> Jack`, probably safe.
[20:54] <Jack`> :P
[20:54] <zaltekk> hey, i just installed 11.10. i installed xorg, i3, and slim. slim comes up at boot. however, when i try to login to i3, i get an error about fglrx not being found. i am using an ati card, but i didn't install catalyst. the radeon xorg driver is loaded with kms. how should I proceed?
[20:56] <Cybertinus> evening
[20:56] <Barbariandude> o/
[20:56] <Jack`> damn installer now it asks me if i want to install all  or if i wnat a instalation thet fits but if i choose fit i risk that not all my hardware works
[20:56] <Jack`> pfff i asks to much questions
[20:56] <Jack`> ^^
[20:56] <linuxrealm> i am running lasted version of pidgen on gnome desktop as a newly created demo user on my laptop. for some reason, when trying to connect to gmail.com via xxmp, with correct settings, it wont log me in. i think maybe this new user is not perm'd to use pidgen? how to check... thanks
[20:57] <brightspark> Jack`, I might recommend not using the expert installer if you don't want it to do that...
[20:57] <Cybertinus> for the people who where helping me earlier tonight with my WLAN problem ( |Anthony| for example): the problem is fixed. For some weird reason WLAN was  disabled in the BIOS. Enabled it there again and now I'm IRCing via WLAN :)
[20:57] <zaltekk> anybody? i don't have an xorg.conf, so i don't know why xorg would be trying to load fglrx
[20:57] <zaltekk> i've never had it installed
[20:58] <|Anthony|> Cybertinus, isn't that odd
[20:58] <zaltekk> i was previously running 10.04.3 with this same setup, and there wasn't an issue.
[20:58] <BluesKaj> Kurdistan, I use a geforce 7600gt , and the required nvidia-current is the 285.05.09
[20:58] <MeQuerSat> Enabling the Hotspot feature of NetworkManager renders my system completely unusable. Report this to launchpad?
[20:58] <cannonfodda> alt f2 has stopped working. nothing happens 11.10 gnome shell. any ideas?
[20:59] <Cybertinus> |Anthony|, yeah, it is. I haven't been in the bios of my netbook in years. Don't know why it was disabled. But it is enabled now again, and everything works, so problem solved :)
[20:59] <|Anthony|> Cybertinus, is there a cmos battery
[20:59] <MeQuerSat> cannonfodda, you can enable it again via keyboard settings
[20:59] <askreet> Cybertinus, There's probably a hotkey to enable/disable it you may have hit by accident.
[21:00] <|Anthony|> +1 askreet
[21:00] <t132> i need help,to transfer a file to my other ubuntu system
[21:00] <askreet> Just look at my Dell Mini it's Fn+F2
[21:00] <|Anthony|> usually is a little button or an Fx combination
[21:00] <Cybertinus> |Anthony|, don't know. I do know that the main battery was depleted really deaply multiple times
[21:00] <cannonfodda> that worked a treat thanks:)
[21:00] <MeQuerSat> :)
[21:00] <Cybertinus> askreet, hmm, fn+f2 it is. It's plausible that I've hit that
[21:01] <ali> hi
[21:01] <jellow> how can I bring back a program to forground while running with nohup ?
[21:02] <ali> when im trying to run as root it says the password wrong ,but when i typing sudo ... then it says the same password is ok
[21:02] <ali> why that?
[21:02] <|Anthony|> well, after 4 hours dd if=/dev/urandom of /dev/sda on a 1TB drive has completed 135GB @ 9.2MB/s
[21:02] <zaltekk> ali: root pw != sudo pw
[21:02] <DaZ> ali: because sudo is not using your root password
[21:02] <DaZ> use sudo su
[21:03] <askreet> t132, There are many ways to do this.  You could set up a shared folder on one system, and retreive the files on the other -- or you could set up an ssh server on the destination and copy the files using scp.  This guide seems to help with the latter: http://vikashazrati.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/quicktip-transferring-files-between-two-ubuntu-systems/
[21:03] <t132> its not on the same network
[21:03] <qwebirc51695> hey anyone  able to help me with a bloody wireless issue on ubuntu 11.10?
[21:03] <t132> trying to connect to a remote computer
[21:03] <ali> ty~
[21:03] <askreet> t132, Well, one of them with have to be accessible over the Internet then.
[21:03] <zaltekk> still no ideas about i3 on 11.10 trying to use fglrx when it isn't installed? the display manager works fine.
[21:04] <askreet> t132, Otherwise, you can use an intermediate service like Dropbox?
[21:04] <Jack`> pff i am almost done with the instaal
[21:04] <ali> one more little thing, why when im mouse over on the lft side of my screen the menu dont pop up?
[21:04] <Jack`> :P
[21:04] <t132> they both have internet
[21:04] <|Anthony|> zaltekk, sometimes you need to blacklist things
[21:04] <askreet> jellow, I don't believe you can bring something back to foreground after a nohup.
[21:04] <Jack`> t132  do you have a count his ftp server
[21:04] <dagerik> zaltekk: the fglrx gives me horrible performance with an acer with i7 and ati card
[21:04] <zaltekk> |Anthony|: like what? i'm using the default open source driver
[21:04] <askreet> jellow, You probably want to run things like that inside screen ideally.
[21:05] <ali> ty
[21:05] <zaltekk> dagerik: i didn't install or configure fglrx.
[21:05] <urlin2u> qwebirc51695, you know the wireless card?
[21:05] <zaltekk> dagerik: i only have xserver-xorg-video-ati/radeon installed.
[21:05] <jellow> askreet, I cant I do not own /dev/pts
[21:05] <zaltekk> and no xorg.conf
[21:05] <t132> i just have access to the computer
[21:05] <dagerik> zaltekk: how is that working out for you?
[21:05] <MeQuerSat> Enabling the Hotspot feature of NetworkManager renders my system completely unusable. Report this as a bug?
[21:05] <zaltekk> dagerik: not at all since X tries to load fglrx somehow.
[21:05] <askreet> jellow, I remember you were asking about /dev/pts earlier -- whose system is this?  Have you considered asking them to install and configure screen inside your jail?
[21:06] <zaltekk> dagerik: it doesn't make sense because it is a fresh install and the catalyst driver was never installed
[21:06] <|Anthony|> i remember a time when i had an nvidia card and an intel integrated chip... the intel had to be blacklisted so i could use the nvidia
[21:06] <askreet> MeQuerSat, Sounds like a bug to me, unless the button says "Render system unusable" :)
[21:06] <|Anthony|> bbl
[21:06] <zaltekk> i just installed xorg, slim, and i3. slim displays fine, but when i try to login to i3 slim has an error trying to load fglrx for some unknown reason.
[21:06] <zaltekk> can't find anything about it on google.
[21:06] <jellow> askreet, Its a free bsd shell provider they do not provide support
[21:07] <MeQuerSat> askreet, ok, will file it then:)
[21:07] <zaltekk> dagerik: any ideas?
[21:08] <t132> i installed filezilla but dont know what info to put in
[21:08] <dagerik> zaltekk: I would have answered if I had any ideas.
[21:08] <zaltekk> *sigh*
[21:09] <askreet> t132, Filezilla is an FTP client, right?  That's only going to help you if you have an FTP server running somewhere to drop the file off to.
[21:09] <askreet> t132, If neither system is listening for FTP or SSH connections, you probably have to use something like Dropbox.  Is that feasible?
[21:09] <qwebirc49424> anyone able to help me with a wireless problem on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[21:09] <t132> thats what im trying to do
[21:10] <gnuskool> hallo, just did a fresh server install of ubuntu server, installed webmin, upgraded, but cant login from my other pc, ping and alll else works
[21:11] <askreet> I wouldn't set the target system up as an FTP server, if it can helped.  FTP is bad.  You want to set up an SSH server and use something like scp.  You want to install openssh-server on at least one of the systems.  Then you want to ssh from one system to another by using `ssh user@<other host>`.
[21:11] <zaltekk> or rather, scp <myfiles> <user>@<host>:<destination>
[21:11] <Kottizen> gnuskool: 'login', using?
[21:12] <askreet> zaltekk,  One step at a time :P
[21:12] <zaltekk> Kottizen: i'd assume with "webmin"
[21:12] <Kottizen> zaltekk: could be SSH too
[21:12] <auronandace> !webmin
[21:12] <Kottizen> gnuskool: is it SSH/PuTTY that you cannot login via, or is it webmin?
[21:12] <gnuskool> askreet: didnt install ftp, did install openssh, but am loggin in from a win pc
[21:13] <Kottizen> gnuskool: use WinSCP to transfer files over SSH, not your regular FTP client
[21:13] <askreet> gnuskool, I think we've cross the streams, I'm trying to help t132 with a file transfer issue as well :P
[21:13] <gnuskool> askreet: ping to server is fine, but from the browser, https://xxxxxxxx:10000 has no connection whatsoever
[21:13] <StepNjump> There is something I really don't understand. If I create a link using nautilus it works but when I bring it on my desktop, it no longer works, why?
[21:13] <Kottizen> !webmin | gnuskool
[21:13] <MeQuerSat> Kottizen, FileZilla can be used perfectly fine to transfer files over SSH
[21:13] <zaltekk> gnuskool: netstat -l # to make sure port 10000 is listening
[21:14] <gnuskool> askreet: my bad
[21:14] <Kottizen> MeQuerSat: I never said it couldn't
[21:14] <MeQuerSat> Kottizen, you suggested it though ;)
[21:14] <t132> the file im trying to send is 11gb
[21:14] <gnuskool> Kottizen: im trying to logi using ff to webmin
[21:15] <The_Jag> Hi all, is there a way to get into ubuntu that new Characters Picker feature of OSX Lion?
[21:15] <th^2> how to create files in format that ti 89 accepts?
[21:15] <Kottizen> gnuskool: you shouldn't be using webmin at all
[21:15] <RokcStar> is there a channel for general disussion of ubuntu?
[21:15] <Kottizen> th^2: do you know what format they need?
[21:15] <th^2> Kottizen, no
[21:15] <zaltekk> my fresh install of 11.10 has xorg, slim, and i3 installed. my video card is an ati radeon hd 2400(r610). i haven't installed the catalyst binary drivers from ati. however, when i login with slim it errors out. slim.log says xorg failed to load fglrx, which is the catalyst binary driver. why is this happening, and how can i fixed it?
[21:16] <zaltekk> th^2: check texas instruments' website.
[21:16] <Kottizen> th^2: when you do you should be able to just create a blank file and name it <something>.<file format>
[21:16] <askreet> zaltekk,  Empty xorg.conf I assume?
[21:16] <zaltekk> askreet: yep.
[21:16] <zaltekk> askreet: rather, no xorg.conf
[21:16] <MeQuerSat> RokcStar, #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[21:16] <askreet> Right.
[21:16] <zaltekk> askreet: the opensource ati/radeon driver is loaded with kms.
[21:17] <The_Jag> Or, is there a quick way to access accented chars from withing the pc's keyboard instead that taking them from a char map onscreen?
[21:17] <askreet> zaltekk, I really wish I actually had a handy Ubuntu system :(
[21:17] <zaltekk> i could pastebin logs and such
[21:18] <zaltekk> but there is only the one error, and there are no configuration changes
[21:18] <zaltekk> or even any xorg configuration at all.
[21:18] <askreet> I'd really just be reminding myself how it determines what driver to load -- something down in /usr/lib/X11 iirc
[21:18] <zaltekk> it doesn't make sense to me that slim works but the actual wm does not.
[21:18] <askreet> slim is the display manager right?
[21:19] <zaltekk> right.
[21:19] <gnuskool> zaltekk: its not even listening
[21:19] <zaltekk> gnuskool: okay, then it isn't setup right. or it isn't started. did you try service webmin start?
[21:19] <askreet> Can I see that slim log?  I suspect the error about fglrx is not your main problem -- I think Xorg just tries to load drivers that are compatible in order and probably tries fglrx, then radeon
[21:19] <zaltekk> askreet: when i login it reloads slim and the X error appears in /var/log/slim.log
[21:20] <zaltekk> askreet: okay, let me copy it across the network.
[21:20] <askreet> zaltekk, Have you tried launching your window manager by hand from .xinitrc?  I haven't used the latest Ubuntu but the old approach would be to init 3, then modify .xinitrc and run "xinit"
[21:21] <zaltekk> askreet: by hand, no. i will in a minute. let me paste the logs first.
[21:22] <gnuskool> Kottizen, what should I be using then? Wierd thing is webmin was working yesterday but this is a practice serverr so I trashed it all and started from scratch
[21:22] <Kottizen> gnuskool: SSH, preferably
[21:23] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, just blacklist the module you don't want to load......
[21:23] <Kottizen> gnuskool: do all your administrative tasks through a remote terminal (SSH)
[21:23] <Kottizen> gnuskool: it's not as easy as webmin, but you'll learn a lot and benefit a lot from it
[21:23] <zaltekk> askreet: /var/log/slim.log: http://codepad.org/K289M2kl :: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://codepad.org/5uFePoCu
[21:23] <iretch> i've been tweaking my mouse settings with synclient, how can i go about saving them permanently in xubuntu?
[21:23] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: there isn't a module loading.
[21:23] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, lsmod | grep fglrx
[21:23] <grkblood> For the last couple of days my video players havent been working properly. When I play a video in say, VLC, the audio plays but the video is a black screen. If I right click in the video player my entire laptop screen starts going crazy and I have to restart gnome. has anyone heard of this>
[21:23] <gnuskool> Kottizen: gotcha! thx
[21:24] <Jack`> humzz i am installing it again because it failed
[21:24] <askreet> zaltekk, Never heard of i3 before, looking interesting.  I wonder if it would compile on RHEL6 (what I use at work) :P  I use dwm now.
[21:24] <Jack`> ^^
[21:24] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: it isn't loaded. isn't even installed.
[21:24] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, then whats wrong ?
[21:24] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: X tries errors out loading the wm, and that is the only error i can find
[21:24] <zaltekk> there isn't an xorg.conf
[21:25] <zaltekk> so nothing should tell it to load the binary driver
[21:25] <rasmusth> anybody tried ubuntu on the newest mac mini?
[21:25] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, pastebin it ?
[21:25] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: already did, let me grab the URLs
[21:25] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: /var/log/slim.log: http://codepad.org/K289M2kl :: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://codepad.org/5uFePoCu
[21:26] <askreet> zaltekk, I really think the fgl stuff is unrelated, look at Xorg.0.log you can see that it tries to load many drivers (autoconfigured drivers X @ lines 100-104), then configure each of them.
[21:26] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, some times it will make an xorg.new.conf or some crap in your home dir and use that.
[21:26] <zaltekk> askreet: right, but there there are no other errors...
[21:26] <askreet> fglrx simply fails because it's not installed, I bet i3 is failing for an entirely different reason.
[21:26] <zaltekk> askreet: i don't see any other errors.
[21:26] <askreet> If you try the .xinitrc/xinit route you may get more output?
[21:26] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: i don't have one.
[21:26] <zaltekk> askreet: about to.
[21:27] <askreet> Could try starting a blank X session (X &) from a terminal, then connecting i3 to it (probably something like DISPLAY=:0 i3) and see what happens.
[21:27] <biagidp> what user do jobs in /etc/cron.daily/ run as?
[21:27] <askreet> All of this from a real VT (ctrl+alt+f1) into :0 (ctrl+alt+f7, probably).
[21:27] <askreet> biagidp, root
[21:27] <biagidp> askreet: thank you!
[21:28] <askreet> biagidp, specifically the run-parts in /etc/cron.d or /etc/crontab is set to run as root. :P
[21:28] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, first thing is you need the 75dpi and the 100dpi x11 font packages.
[21:28] <niklot_> anyone use haskell here in ubuntu?
[21:29] <xperia> hi to all. have a small problem. everytime i boot into ubuntu i have only about 480 MB System Ram even my RAM is 4GB big. how can i tell ubuntu to use full RAM availble ? with such low ram ubuntu is heavy slow as allways the swap is used !
[21:29] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: is the xorg metapackage not enough to use xorg?
[21:29] <askreet> xperia, How are you looking at your ram usage?  Can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/meminfo" and "free -m"?
[21:29] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, you need those fonts for alot of stuff and it's complaining about them in your log just get them to be sure.
[21:30] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: will do. having to reboot. service slim stop continually fails. i did kill -s SIGKILL `pgreg slim` and the system deadlocked
[21:30] <askreet> zaltekk, Ha!  i3 uses dmenu -- I bet this is a fork of dwm :P
[21:30] <xperia> i am using top in terminal modus. the availble system ram is only 480MB and free ram is about 4MB
[21:30] <zaltekk> askreet: it isn't. it is a from scratch project made to be like wmii
[21:31] <askreet> zaltekk, Ah, so they just make use of dmenu?  Makes sense.
[21:31] <xperia> i have all the time swap work. need really to tell ubuntu to use max availble ram ! can not pastebin the output as it is nearly not possible really to use the ubuntu desktop !
[21:32] <Droyd> night
[21:32] <zaltekk> askreet: correct.
[21:32] <OerHeks> xperia, specs say you need 1 gb of ram. that could explain your slow system
[21:32] <askreet> He has 4G, that was the original issue :P
[21:33] <askreet> showing as 480M
[21:33] <xperia> how much system ram do you all have when you run the command top into the console
[21:33] <MeQuerSat> xperia, top shows the cached RAM usage
[21:33] <zaltekk> hah
[21:33] <xperia> i guess while i have installed ubuntu i have chosen some wrong setting
[21:33] <MahaVishnu> free -m
[21:33] <askreet> xperia, They have all their RAM, as you should.  You may want to look at 'dmesg|tail"
[21:33] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: that fixed it. strange that no error was reported.
[21:33] <MeQuerSat> xperia, if you have 4MB free thats perfect as it is using as cache
[21:33] <zaltekk> just installed xfonts-[75|100]dpi
[21:33] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, installing the fonts fixed it ?
[21:33] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: yep. thanks!
[21:34] <askreet> Wow, that was t?
[21:34] <zaltekk> askreet: all better.
[21:34] <askreet> it*
[21:34] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, I consider it a bug. that it's not packaged with the xorg like you said.
[21:34] <MeQuerSat> xperia, if you do "free -m" you can see what it uses without the cache/buffer
[21:34] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: well, slim worked fine. it's just i3 that needed them.
[21:34] <askreet> Well the included DE with Ubuntu has the fonts it needs... it should probably be a requirement of the i3 package.
[21:34] <askreet> Unless you installed from source?
[21:34] <zaltekk> xorg gave me xfonts-base
[21:34] <xperia> MeQuerSat: but why is then ubuntu such slow. all the time the hard disk is heavy used and swap usage goes up and down !
[21:34] <zaltekk> askreet: nope, i used the i3 metapackaged
[21:34] <boldfilter> anyone know any good unity customizations
[21:34] <askreet> So the i3 metapackage should depend 75|100dpi packages.
[21:35] <MeQuerSat> xperia, could you give us the output of "free -m" and "top" ?
[21:35] <askreet> bug report time! :)
[21:35] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, idk what 'slim' and 'i3' isnt an intel chip obviously ?
[21:35] <xperia> it freeze for several seconds even all the time !
[21:35] <MeQuerSat> xperia, use something as pastebin.com to upload
[21:35] <askreet> MahaVishnu, http://i3wm.org/
[21:35] <askreet> Pretty neat
[21:35] <askreet> I may see if there's a RHEL6 package for it and check it out at work.
[21:35] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: slim is login manager. i3 is a window manager.
[21:35] <zaltekk> and i spoke too soon.
[21:35] <zaltekk> logging into wm-less X worked
[21:35] <zaltekk> i3 still fails.
[21:36] <xperia> well okay have to reboot into ubuntu see you in about 10 minutes
[21:36] <boldfilter> Any unity themes?
[21:36] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, :F
[21:36] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, how are you trying to start i3 ?
[21:36] <zaltekk> i'm about to head home from work and i'm going to try the exact same install/setup on my nvidia-based laptop
[21:36] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: logging in from slim.
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> what is slim lol ?
[21:37] <MeQuerSat> <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: slim is login manager. i3 is a window manager.
[21:37] <MeQuerSat> ...
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> ah.
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> maybe your .desktop file is wrong
[21:37] <atlan80> hi there. anybody got the rtl2832u module running with 2.6.32, pae enabled?
[21:37] <zaltekk> .desktop?
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> how does slim load sessions ?
[21:38] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: Xsession
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> then maybe the error is in the config.
[21:38] <zaltekk> what config? =/
[21:38] <askreet> zaltekk, /usr/share/X11/Xsessions or similiar should have an i3.desktop file
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> yea
[21:39] <atlan80> if so, how? I keep gettn' 'disagrees about dvb_usb_device_init' ... :-(
[21:40] <zaltekk> well, i'll mess with it later. i'm out of time
[21:40] <zaltekk> thanks for the help
[21:40] <MahaVishnu> kk
[21:40] <MeQuerSat> "well, i'll mess with it later. i'm out of time" <-- so familiar xD
[21:41] <Jack`> MahaVishnu  i forgot to install grub bootloader how do i start my ubuntu then from grub shell
[21:41] <Droyd> merry christmas for everybody see you soon...kind regard's
[21:41] <MeQuerSat> thank you Droyd, same to you :)
[21:42] <atlan80> coming back later, must check sthg... see y'all.
[21:43] <Jack`> humzz how do i boot linux ubuntu from grub shell
[21:44] <MeQuerSat> Jack`, that's hard to do
[21:44] <MeQuerSat> Jack`, you should boot from a live-cd and reinstall grub
[21:44] <rasmusth> When I pick replace Mac OS X, shouldn't it create stuff so that it can boot on its own?
[21:44] <|Anthony|> Jack`, do you boot into a grub shell?
[21:45] <Jack`> jup
[21:45] <Jack`> i do
[21:45] <|Anthony|> or go right into gdm
[21:45] <Jack`> grub shell
[21:45] <Jack`> so now
[21:45] <|Anthony|> from cli should be starx
[21:45] <Jack`> huh
[21:45] <jost> i got the following error when trying to start my upstart job using "start idleShutdown": http://pastebin.com/CFJ1zJ9K whats wrong there?
[21:45] <MeQuerSat> |Anthony|, thats wrong
[21:45] <RadarG> has anyone here gotten starcraft 2 to work on ubuntu?
[21:45] <|Anthony|> aw
[21:45] <MeQuerSat> Jack`, boot a live-cd and reinstall grub
[21:45] <Jack`> pffff
[21:45] <MeQuerSat> Ive done it many times, its the only way
[21:45] <xperia_> hi to all. i have now booted into ubuntu again. here is what free -m output on my system
[21:45] <xperia_> http://pastebin.com/5Y2HUWf7
[21:46] <Jack`> just tryed that and it whant to reinstall all over eagain
[21:46] <xperia_> i have 4GB Ram and ubuntu use only 480MB
[21:46] <rasmusth> does anybody know?
[21:46] <RadarG> is there a way to ditch unity and switch back to gnome or kde?
[21:46] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, 32bit or 64bit version?
[21:46] <xperia_> 64BIT
[21:46] <MeQuerSat> RadarG, I use Gnome Shell: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[21:47] <MeQuerSat> RadarG, for starcraft: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[21:47] <seb__> what's the console command to display the desktop in xfce? I want to create a keyboard shortcut and don't know the command. Ty
[21:48] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, that's really weird, if you boot the live-cd and do "free -m" do you see 480m too?
[21:48] <Barbariandude> !nounity | RadarG
[21:48] <xperia_> hooo dont have the cd anymore. upgrade ubuntu now several times
[21:48] <RadarG> cool thanks
[21:48] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, I would suggest a clean re-install
[21:48] <xperia_> there must be some setting for ubuntu that tell him how much ram to use
[21:49] <xperia_> ohh noo then i wll totally trash ubuntu
[21:49] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, if it shows 480m instead of 4095 there is something really wrong
[21:49] <xperia_> it sucks really
[21:49] <seb__> it's part of the window manager, ignore my question
[21:49] <xperia_> well then never again ubuntu in this case
[21:49] <xperia_> thanks for the info
[21:50] <xperia_> bye to all
[21:50] <MeQuerSat> ...
[21:50] <conntrack> Evening
[21:50] <lenneth_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[21:51] <ameurux> hi
[21:53] <lenneth_> ping
[21:54] <boldfilter> Dear ubuntu, unity sucks dick, love you
[21:54] <conntrack> haha
[21:54] <conntrack> Love that joker
[21:55] <boldfilter> What can you say?
[21:56] <boldfilter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BKiC3geDCc
[21:56] <boldfilter> The guy in this video gets pissed talking about ubuntu
[21:57] <Pessimism> I installed cree.py on the latest version of Ubuntu, but I can't find out where and how to run it: http://ilektrojohn.github.com/creepy/. I'm sure it's dead simple, but I'm new to Ubuntu.
[21:58] <Guest67273> I need to change a shell script which is  /usr/bin/xdg-email  what is the command line to do this sudo something ?
[21:59] <lenneth_> watch out your language please, and just change your windws manager or stick to maverick if you dont like.
[21:59] <lenneth_> ping test - please ignore it, im checking the weak wireless im attached to.
[21:59] <mneptok> boldfilter: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:59] <zerobyte> Guest67273 can you be more specific ?
[22:01] <Guest67273> There is this shell script  /usr/bin/xdg-email  which has a bug in it. If I open it by clicking on it it is read only. I know there is a command line to edit it but dont know the command
[22:02] <genoobie> hey all
[22:02] <rasmusth> lulz
[22:02] <rasmusth> replaced OSX with ubuntu
[22:02] <rasmusth> now when I turn it on I get white screen
[22:02] <boldfilter> bRO, WHY LOL
[22:02] <rasmusth> and nothing happens
[22:03] <goddard> does Unity have a channel?
[22:04] <boldfilter> ya it's #unity-sucks
[22:04] <mneptok> boldfilter: stop.
[22:05] <OerHeks> goddard, you are in it.
[22:05] <genoobie> hey I just installed lubuntu a while ago and I love it.  Just today, the wireless crapped out
[22:05] <genoobie> I am a complete newb, so I am not sure how to fix this...
[22:05] <genoobie> any tips would be greatly appreciated.
[22:06] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:06] <Pessimism> If I install a program with apt-get, where is it supposed to be available in the newest version of Ubuntu?
[22:06] <mneptok> genoobie: did you get a kernel update recently (i did). try booting into an older kernel from the GRUB boot menu.
[22:06] <genoobie> hrm
[22:06] <genoobie> okay
[22:06] <genoobie> let me see what grub says
[22:07] <mneptok> Pessimism: the binary? config files? libraries? what?
[22:07] <genoobie> nah, they are both 3.0.0-13-generic
[22:08] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx
[22:08] <Pessimism> I am trying to find the executable for cree.py: http://ilektrojohn.github.com/creepy/.
[22:08] <genoobie> mneptok, so I think the versions are the same
[22:08] <Pessimism> source at https://github.com/ilektrojohn/creepy
[22:08] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Try "whereis $program_name".
[22:08] <genoobie> I would rather fix it than boot windows
[22:08] <kkerwin> Pessimism: That's a python file, which is not a binary.
[22:08] <mneptok> Pessimism: sudo updatedb && locate cree.py
[22:08] <genoobie> let me boot windows and see if the wireless works
[22:09] <kkerwin> How did you download it? As a package file from ubuntu, or straight from the website?
[22:09] <genoobie> mneptok any other suggestions?
[22:09] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:09] <mneptok> genoobie: if you have not checked to make sure the wireless works at all, no.
[22:09] <genoobie> ugh, now windows won't boot
[22:10] <fullstop> Hi all.  Anyone here use a verizon USB551L 4G modem?
[22:10] <Jack`> nope
[22:10] <Jack`> :P
[22:10] <fullstop> I'm trying to figure out which driver will work with it.
[22:10] <Jack`> google
[22:10] <kkerwin> fullstop: Nope.
[22:10] <Jack`> :P
[22:10] <OerHeks> Jack`, that is not helpfull
[22:10] <fullstop> So far I've built the smusb driver, which reveals several ttyUSBx devices
[22:10] <Jack`> nope i now
[22:10] <Jack`> :P
[22:10] <fullstop> and one of them has an AT interpreter running
[22:10] <LINCE10> CIAO
[22:10] <rasmusth> yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:10] <Pessimism> mneptok: Shouldn't I be able to run it with python cree.py?
[22:10] <kkerwin> fullstop: You can pick up routers (cradlepoint) that will take a usb air card and give off a wifi signal.
[22:11] <Pessimism> nothing happens when I do it
[22:11] <fullstop> but it does not allow the typical ppp connection
[22:11] <LINCE10> !LIST
[22:11] <genoobie> mneptok, any way to diag that?
[22:11] <mneptok> Pessimism: python /path/to/where/you/can/find/cree.py
[22:11] <Jack`> pff i am reinstalling 3 time
[22:11] <Jack`> :P
[22:11] <fullstop> kkerwin: I'm aware of that, but I'm trying to use it in linux.
[22:11] <kkerwin> Pessimism: You have to be in the same directory as cree.py.
[22:11] <Pessimism> I am - usr/share/creepy
[22:11] <fullstop> Ubuntu tries to pick it up as cdc_ether
[22:11] <Pessimism> (At least I think so)
[22:11] <Pessimism> dir shows it
[22:11] <mneptok> Pessimism: pwd
[22:12] <fullstop> So that exposes an eth2 device, but I can't get any data to flow.
[22:12] <Pessimism> pwd -> /usr/share/creepy
[22:12] <kkerwin> fullstop: Sorry buddy. Above my paygrade. ;-)
[22:12] <mneptok> Pessimism: python ./cree.py
[22:12] <MahaVishnu> fullstop, is eth2 up ?
[22:12] <fullstop> kkerwin: Not a problem.  I was just hoping that somebody here might have tried to use one
[22:13] <rasmusth> Yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:13] <Jack`> MahaVishnu
[22:13] <Pessimism> mneptok: Same. Nothing happens.
[22:13] <fullstop> MahaVishnu: Yes.  Tx counters accumulate but Rx never does
[22:13] <Jack`> i am reinstalling
[22:13] <Jack`> :P
[22:13] <genoobie> ugh, this really sucks
[22:13] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:13] <Jack`> MahaVishnu : i am reinstalling
[22:13] <Pessimism> Viewing as su fwiw at root@ubuntu:/usr/share/creepy#
[22:13] <mneptok> Pessimism: then something is wrong with that Python script. it should at least fail with an error.
[22:13] <MahaVishnu> Jack`, ok ? but I don't believe im familiar with your issue ;-)
[22:14] <fullstop> I'm going to add some kprints to the cdc_ether driver and see how that goes.
[22:14] <fullstop> thanks
[22:14] <Pessimism> yeah. Good it isn't just me.
[22:14] <Pessimism> Thanks
[22:14] <Jack`> MahaVishnu lol i whas the one with the failing grub
[22:14] <Jack`> MahaVishnu and no i cant use the damn live cd :P
[22:14] <kkerwin> Pessimism: cree.py is, as I recall, a graphical program. I remember checking it out to teach my grade school kids about internet stalkers.  Anyway, do you notice a graphical window popping up **underneath** your console window?
[22:14] <Matt040804> So, I've totally f'ed up the python install on my machine--is there anyway to "reinstall" it
[22:14] <mneptok> Pessimism: and "i ran some random Python app I found on Sourceforge as the root user" is an insanely bad idea.
[22:14] <Matt040804> ?
[22:15] <MahaVishnu> Jack`, why not? and there is liveusb and sry I dont remember.
[22:15] <Matt040804> I know it's totally integrated with the OS, so I'm not really sure how to go about fixing it.
[22:15] <Jack`> MahaVishnu lol i am using the live cd
[22:15] <rasmusth> Yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:16] <MahaVishnu> Jack`, wahts wrong with your grub ?
[22:16] <Pessimism> kkerwin: It is a graphical program, yes.  By the look of it.
[22:18] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Try switching the order of display and sudo, ie: sudo DISPLAY=:0 python ./cree.py
[22:18] <Pessimism> same
[22:19] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ok. I have another idea. Give me a second to make sure I get the command right ...
[22:19] <compdoc> join #centos
[22:19] <Pessimism> Butters, even if I am not su, I should still be able to access it as 'pessimism' user somehow like any ordinary program without going to usr/share/creepy, right? Considering that I am able to run programs like Chrome, etc.
[22:19] <Pessimism> kkerwin: Thanks. Appreciate it.
[22:20] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ok. Hit Alt-F2. Type "gksudo". A window should pop up. Type "python /path/to/dir/cree.py".
[22:21] <Pessimism> kkwerwin: Nothign seems to have happened
[22:21] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ooops. It's Alt-F2. Type "gksudo python /path/to/dir/cree.py". Then type your passwd in the next window.
[22:21] <Matt040804> I think I have the wrong version of Python installed--I tried fiddling with it a long time ago and now it's not working correctly, and I don't remember what I changed.  Any ideas?
[22:22] <Pessimism> sec
[22:22] <Pessimism> now it entered tty2
[22:22] <kkerwin> Pessimism: not sure what you mean there.
[22:22] <Pessimism> kkerwin: I am suddenly in a DOS-like interface
[22:22] <Pessimism> (?!)
[22:22] <Pessimism> so that's a thing
[22:23] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Oh. You must have hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead of just Alt-F2.
[22:23] <Pessimism> ah
[22:23] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Hit Alt-F7 to get back.
[22:23] <Pessimism> ah, cheers
[22:24] <Pessimism> hmm, still nothing with gksudo python
[22:24] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ok. Well, I'm spent on ideas, then. Sorry.
[22:24] <Pessimism> But I'll live if I can't run the program. I just wondered if I was completely oblivious, or whether something was bugged. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive.) Thanks a bunch, kkwerwin, regardless!
[22:25] <Pessimism> Learnt a thing or seventeen along the way
[22:25] <kkerwin> No biggie. You're welcome.
[22:25] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:26] <diverdude> I have a .deb package. How do i install that?
[22:26] <MahaVishnu> `MArceLL`, diverdude sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[22:26] <kkerwin> diverdude: dpkg -i $PACKAGE_NAME.deb.
[22:26] <MahaVishnu> how did that marcell name get in there
[22:27] <diverdude> thx
[22:28] <super789> hello, i'm trying to connect to the router in Lubuntu, i wirte the key and the it just resquest the key again (like if was wrong) but the key is ok....
[22:29] <kkerwin> super789: Are you sure that you have selected the right kind of encryption?
[22:29] <kkerwin> WEP vs WPA?
[22:29] <kkerwin> There's also a couple of different cyphers in there, etc.
[22:29] <super789> kkerwin: it is just automatic.
[22:30] <super789> the key haves 10 leters
[22:30] <super789> insert the wireless usb stick
[22:30] <super789> right click> connect to network
[22:31] <almostroot> So I set up a local repo using apt-mirror, and I'm attempting to net boot and install from it, but I get an error that the installer failed to download a file from the mirror. Is there any way to find out what file?
[22:34] <super789> kkerwin: it is WPA/WPA2 PSK
[22:34] <kkerwin> super789: Most likely. Either that, or it's WEP.  That was a statement. Not a question. Disregard my last. ;-)
[22:35] <super789> kkerwin: i dont have acess to the router, i only have the password and need to connect my system to it. so i should try to change the settings that lubuntu defined automaticlly??
[22:36] <kkerwin> Give it a try. You can always change it back.
[22:36] <super789> ok thanks
[22:40] <diverdude> I try to do sudo apt-get install libzip-dev libzip1 but i get an error. How do i install these packages?
[22:42] <luis_> What Error?
[22:42] <goddard> OerHeks: well i need some help debugging some issues
[22:42] <diverdude> luis_, You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[22:42] <diverdude> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:42] <diverdude>  libzip-dev : Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed
[22:43] <diverdude> luis_, and then some more Depends and the Try apt-get -f install
[22:43] <diverdude> but i guess -f is force install right?
[22:43] <diverdude> so that means libzip wont be working because it dont have dependencies?
[22:43] <kkerwin> Hi. When I start my NFS server, I receive the following error message:
[22:43] <kkerwin> exportfs: ***** does not support NFS export". But nothing else. What's going on here?
[22:45] <rj175>  Hello,I am having issues booting a LVM root. I moved my root partition (including boot) into a lvm, I have managed to get the system to boot to the xubuntu splash screen but it cannot find my / lvm. Ive changed my fstab to the new one but still nothing
[22:45] <Antonis> Hello folks. I have installed apache and changed the documentroot from /var/www to /media/Storage/www (Storage is a NTFS partition). When I try to access the website I get a forbidden error.
[22:45] <incorrect> in my notification tray there is a battery indicator, does anyone know where it is coming from?
[22:45] <Antonis> Permissions seem ok cause ls -al shows my user as owner what could be wrong?
[22:45] <incorrect> or how i can stop it from being loaded?
[22:45] <diverdude> I try to do sudo apt-get install libzip-dev libzip1 but i get an error. How do i install these packages?
[22:46] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, did you try sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev
[22:47] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, yes...its the same problem
[22:47] <salty> !root | Guest58106
[22:47] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, ubuntu 11.10? 32/64bit ?
[22:47] <salty> lol
[22:47] <salty> not what i wanted
[22:48] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, 64 bit
[22:48] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, 11.10 yes
[22:49] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, I just did a sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev and it worked for me with default sources on 64 /11.10. also I did install the packages you wanted to install first and it did not ask me for that zlib1g at all...
[22:49] <Guest58106> Hi
[22:49] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, my main goal is actually to install this: http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads
[22:49] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, how did you install those zlib?
[22:49] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, does a sudo apt-get autoclean help ?
[22:49] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, via apt-get
[22:50] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, no does not help
[22:50] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, can you install this .deb pack : http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads 64bit 11.10 ?
[22:54] <habas> who else thinks that ubuntu is getting a bit lame these days?
[22:54] <joshteam> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:54] <joshteam> kernel?
[22:54] <joshteam> for ubutnu 11.10
[22:54] <joshteam> Ubuntu*
[22:55] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, it wants alot of dependencies to be installed first.
[22:55] <truefx> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:55] <truefx>   lazarus: Depends: lazarus-ide (>= <IP_ADDRESS>-8ubuntu1)
[22:55] <truefx> E: Broken packages
[22:55] <truefx> i cant install lazarus on ubuntu 10.04 any idea ?
[22:55] <truefx> i have above error message . im newbei in linux
[22:56] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search zlib1g-dev
[22:56] <Butters> Pessimism: what are you talking about?  I am using 11.10, Gnome.
[22:58] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, look here_: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/648339454
[22:58] <helix_9> Good Afternoon, Can you give me a tip how i can put the stream i get with VideoCapture back in a virtual video1 device?
[22:58] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get autoclean
[23:00] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:00] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, phew...youre a hero...that seemed to fix it
[23:01] <jwang> is there a way to get gnome-terminal to work after upgrading to 11.10? I have the GConf error which seems to be fairly common now
[23:01] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx
[23:01] <freaky[t]> hi all i have a problem installing the ati drivers from the ati website in ubuntu 11.10. after doing aticonfig --initial it says:  Unable to find any supported Screen sections can anybody help me please?
[23:01] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, look through aplay -L
[23:01] <calwig> hi where can I ask about formatting a document on WORD?
[23:02] <calwig> I thought about here: so, here is what I would like to do:
[23:02] <hacked_kernel> MahaVishnu, its name is "default"  , i need a device name to capture from it programatically
[23:02] <calwig> I have a 150 page Text. Single Row. What Id like is to do a Double Row. How can I add this, when the document has already been formatted?
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, you using pulse audio? and what are you trying to do exactly ?
[23:03] <diverdude> how do i see what files a package installed
[23:03] <diverdude> ?
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo dpkg -L package
[23:03] <salty> ubuntu doesn't come with Word, so I wouldn't know
[23:03] <hacked_kernel> MahaVishnu, I wanna capture audio for speech recognition ,  I have Ubuntu 11.10 so yes Pulse
[23:04] <SunTsu> calwig: don't you think that _word_ is a little bit off in this channel?
[23:04] <goddard> alright so I installed the lastest Nvidia drivers and my window movement is still laggy under ubuntu
[23:04] <goddard> im using the 460M which is a great card and should have no problem
[23:04] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, I know how to set up recording, but not exactly how to find a /dev/device for it...
[23:04] <goddard> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display
[23:05] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, if you install pavucontrol you can setup your line-in settings etc.
[23:11] <lsv> Is there any way to compile a *.cpp file in linux, but that the executable works on windows?
[23:12] <arcsky> with new ubuntu server i get some pc info when i login with ssh. howw can i get that to ubuntu desktop?
[23:13] <lsv> arcsky: I don't know but maybe it is the motd file?
[23:13] <SunTsu> lsv: you can do cross compiling, and there's howtos for it, but that's hardly ubuntu specific
[23:14] <lsv> SunTsu: does g++ have a flag for that?
[23:15] <Kirsch> hey - i just wanted to get some sort of consensus - what DLNA service do most people use in here? i'm currently using mediatomb but it seems that "Indexing" support with that and my google tv dont work, i just got serviio started but it doesn't seem to support the console mode without x so i figured i'd come and ask anyone here.
[23:15] <siric> does someone has a script which can search a term on google and return the number of results?
[23:15] <SunTsu> arcsky: could be dynamic motd generation triggered by pam_motd.so
[23:15] <MahaVishnu> Kirsch, idk about googletv but ps3 media server is dlna and works very good with xbox360 / ps3
[23:15] <MahaVishnu> it does support some other devices though check the website
[23:16] <dagerik> Lol, how hard can it be to disable the fucking black screen I get after about 10 min. I have searched through all of the settings in Gnome 3, 11.10
[23:16] <Kirsch> MahaVishnu: ya and it works very well with my PS3 as of now and i didn't change any config with Mediatomb but GoogleTV threw an error (it's actually Logitech's Media Center app, it DOES play through their app I just have to browse through all the files, it could support global serach)
[23:16] <wh1zz0> YeeeeaaaaS!!!!! Finally got DW CS5 working 100% on oneiric
[23:17] <Escherial> hey, why are all the backgrounds on eclipse tooltips black after upgrading to 11.10?
[23:17] <wh1zz0> I'm so dumping VM
[23:17] <forceflow> Escherial: are you sure you're running eclipse with Sun's Java
[23:17] <Escherial> er, or more helpfully, how would i go about changing them? :)
[23:17] <forceflow> and nog GCJ (open source java)
[23:17] <forceflow> sorry, GJC I think that is
[23:18] <Kirsch> i guess i should be asking if anyone else in here uses a media center and does NOT use mediatomb and how they like it?
[23:18] <forceflow> Escherial: check set-alternatives java
[23:18] <salty> dagerik, try 'xset s off'
[23:18] <Escherial> forceflow: you're right, i'm using openjdk
[23:18] <SunTsu> arcsky: http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/ has it covered quite well, although the author doesn't seem to be fond of it too much
[23:19] <forceflow> Escherial: you better change to SUN jdk if you want eclipse to display properly, I'm afraid
[23:19] <forceflow> I think that's the problem
[23:19] <MahaVishnu> dagerik, remove option DPMS from /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you are talking about 'screen blanking'
[23:19] <Escherial> strange that this should've changed between 11.04 and 11.10
[23:19] <forceflow> Escherial: eclipse updated too ...
[23:19] <Matt040804> If I were to completely reinstall ubuntu, would there be any conflicts from copying my home directory over the new one?
[23:19] <forceflow> Escherial: other thing to try: switch to non-accelerated desktop (ubuntu 2D, or simple, or whatever it's called nowadays :) )
[23:19] <Escherial> the tooltips display properly, just with a black background; is there perhaps a way to change the system-wide tooltip background color?
[23:20] <LeCurieux> hi to all
[23:20] <salty> or 'xset -dpms'
[23:20] <LeCurieux> i'm new on xubuntu
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> salty, that won't be permanent
[23:20] <salty> i know but i don't use 11.10
[23:20] <LeCurieux> if someone can help a frenchy !!!
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> whats that mean?
[23:21] <MahaVishnu> !fr
[23:21] <Escherial> forceflow: actually, argh, just changing the theme from "radiance" to something else improved the situation dramatically (light-blue background instead of black)
[23:21] <LeCurieux> it's about alsa and multiple usb sound cards
[23:21] <wh1zz0> Damn!.. So happy
[23:21] <Escherial> i may change over to sun's jvm if i encounter problems, but it seems like openjdk is working well enough for now
[23:21] <lsv> Matt040804: I think a clean install would erase everything you have on the hard drive.
[23:22] <Matt040804> lsv: yeah, but if I copy it to a USB drive first?
[23:22] <forceflow> Escherial: strange ... well, glad it helped
[23:22] <forceflow> Escherial: are you running eclipse from the repos or the latest version from site?
[23:22] <Matt040804> lsv: I badly messed up my python install and can't figure out how to fix it so I'm planning on doing a reinstall
[23:22] <Escherial> from the repos, i believe
[23:22] <zerobyte> someone knows how to create a GROUP directives for my NFS shares?
[23:22] <forceflow> Might be interesting to download the latest version (it's just unzipping to a folder and running it) to check
[23:22] <LeCurieux> i try to make a 8 tracks studio with 4 usb cards
[23:23] <lsv> Matt040804: why not just uninstall python then install it again?
[23:23] <forceflow> As long as you select a different workspace folder, it won't interfere with the other eclipse(s) you have running :)
[23:23] <LeCurieux> If someone can help me ?
[23:23] <Matt040804> lsv: I did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall python"
[23:23] <Matt040804> lsv: but it doesn't fix the problem. I think it stems from several versions ago when I tried installing python 2.7 alongside 2.6
[23:24] <lsv> Matt040804: maybe 'sudo apt-get purge python'?
[23:25] <Escherial> forceflow: interesting idea, i'll try it when i get a moment :) thanks for the help, by the way
[23:25] <lsv> Matt040804: the man page says that it will remove configuration files...  maybe that would fix it?
[23:25] <Matt040804> lsv: I'm giving it a try, it just vomited tons of info to my terminal
[23:26] <Matt040804> lsv: looks like it's going to mess with about half the packages on my system
[23:26] <forceflow> Escherial: no problem
[23:26] <lsv> Matt040804: then you better not mess with it.
[23:26] <Matt040804> lsv: Last ditch effort. I'm going to reinstall anyway at this point, unless something fixes my problem
[23:27] <lsv> Matt040804: I don't know that much and I would feel bad if I ruin your computer.
[23:27] <Matt040804> lsv: Someone in the python channel recommended something similar, so don't feel too bad
[23:27] <Matt040804> lsv: I'm sure nothing will happen to the hardware, and that's what matters
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> python is like required for ubuntu now then I guess Matt040804
[23:28] <pfew> guys I have a problem
[23:28] <Matt040804> MahaVishnu: I know, that's probably why it's so hard to fix
[23:28] <lsv> Matt040804: oh ok :)
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> Matt040804, yea Idk either ;\
[23:28] <pfew> I set bios settings to default and it has damaged ubuntu O think
[23:28] <pfew> I
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> pfew, whats wrong exactly?
[23:29] <pfew> Instead of starting up it says busybox
[23:29] <pfew> multi-cell binary
[23:29] <pfew> And it asks for commands or something
[23:29] <pfew> It wont boot into linux
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> gotta go fix my bathroom tile someone will help you.
[23:30] <pfew> ok
[23:30] <kkerwin> Hi. When I start my NFS server, I receive the following error message: "exportfs: *** does not support export". Any idea why this is, and what I can do to fix it?
[23:31] <salty> pfew setting bios won't damage the harddrive... but it might not be booting from the harddrive... go back into bios and set boot lineup to your harddrive
[23:32] <pfew> it is
[23:32] <arcsky> if i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd
[23:32] <pfew> I even selected it from grub
[23:32] <salty> hmmmm....
[23:32]  * salty is thinking
[23:33] <slugzzz> Hey all. So, it seems that after the newest updates in 11.10, my m15x begins to have issues with logging out unexpectedly, especially when browsing the internet.
[23:33] <shade34321> I was wondering if you anyboby could tell me what this command does, was asked about it today. cat temp >> more
[23:34] <SunTsu> shade34321: man cat - >> is redirection of standard outout into a file, which is not removed but appended to
[23:35] <somsip> shade34321: it adds the content of the file "temp" to the end of the file "more"
[23:35] <slugzzz> Actually, the same logout issue seems to be happening in 10.04 when the latest updates are installed, as well.
[23:36] <shade34321> so it essentially does the same thing as cat temp > more
[23:36] <arcsky> none know?
[23:36] <shade34321> or is it different?
[23:36] <SunTsu> shade34321: no, > creates a new file, >> appends
[23:36] <shade34321> gotcha
[23:36] <shade34321> so if i do cat temp > more it own't create the file but >> will and append it
[23:36] <arcsky> if i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd
[23:37] <SunTsu> shade34321: with > you'd kill whatever is in the target file, with >> you don't but append to that file
[23:37] <shade34321> ok...thanks:)
[23:38] <TACPILOT> what package is the equivalent of rhel's filesystem package ?
[23:38] <pfew> salty: you there?
[23:38] <shade34321> apt?
[23:38] <TACPILOT> contains the basic directory layout for a Linux operating system, including the correct permissions for the directories.?
[23:39] <salty> pfew , http://askubuntu.com/questions/44286/busybox-error-on-boottry this
[23:39] <salty> pfew , http://askubuntu.com/questions/44286/busybox-error-on-boot try this
[23:41] <salty> brb... need food
[23:41] <pfew> salty food?
[23:41] <SunTsu> TACPILOT: that'd be base-files I guess
[23:42] <pfew> question.... can you have wine programs run at startup of ubuntu?
[23:43] <SunTsu> pfew: sure
[23:43] <shade34321> last question...what does cat temp | more do?
[23:43] <TACPILOT> tnx .. I will take a look
[23:43] <lsv> shade34321: show the content of temp one screen at a time
[23:43] <SunTsu> shade34321: | pipes standard output of the first program into standard input of the second program. But that's all basics, not ubuntu support
[23:44] <progre55> hi guys. how do you disable samba (smbd) so that it doesnt autostart?
[23:44] <lsv> shade34321: If you want to learn more about bash there is a channel just for that #bash
[23:44] <shade34321> just wanted to make sure
[23:45] <shade34321> they were interview questions...so i figured id ask online..and the >> i couldn't find on google...thanks for the help
[23:46] <SunTsu> progre55: man update-rc.d
[23:46] <progre55> SunTsu: well I tried "sudo update-rc.d smbd disable" didnt help
[23:47] <progre55> smbd lives in /etc/init/ not /etc/init.d/
[23:47] <SunTsu> progre55: Never used samba on ubuntu, but maybe there's more than one rc script for it, at least there's many, many serv ices
[23:47] <SunTsu> smbd, nmbd, winbindd and so on
[23:48] <progre55> well I guess I'll just rename the /etc/init/smbd.conf file to smth else, so that it doesnt end with .conf
[23:48] <progre55> but I'd like to have the option to start it when I need, without having to rename it, etc.. just not on autostart
[23:49] <SunTsu> progre55: maybe there's a meta script called samba, too
[23:49] <arcsky> if i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd
[23:49] <trism> progre55: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/smbd.override;
[23:49] <progre55> SunTsu: nope, the default conf is in /etc/default/samba
[23:49] <trism> progre55: if this is 11.04+
[23:50] <progre55> trism: 11.10
[23:50] <progre55> thanks, let me have a look at it
[23:50] <slugzzz> So... question, all... what would you recommend for ubuntu as a "backup tool" that takes "snapshots" of your current machine state so that you can revert to it later.
[23:50] <slugzzz> Sort of like Apple's "time machine"?
[23:50] <progre55> trism: awesome, appreciate!
[23:51] <SunTsu> slugzzz: using a file system that supports snapshots, like btrfs
[23:51] <slugzzz> How about "flyback" anyone used it?
[23:52] <chz|bacon> progre55: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/pam_motd.html
[23:52] <chz|bacon> looks cool too
[23:52] <progre55> chz|bacon: weather-util? what's that?
[23:53] <chz|bacon> displays the local weather when you login via ssh
[23:54] <progre55> and I need it because..?
[23:54] <progre55> chz|bacon: well thanks anyways =) I'll keep it in mind
[23:54] <chz|bacon> but in essence you could use it to display other information
[23:54] <SunTsu> chz|bacon: maybe you were trying to talk to arcsky?
[23:55] <chz|bacon> doh yeah sorry shiz
[23:55] <progre55> I was asking about samba autostarting, but thanks =)
[23:55]  * chz|bacon slaps himself
[23:55] <progre55> happens :)
[23:55] <chz|bacon> lines
[23:55] <chz|bacon> text spewing, reading, researching my own problem... blah
[23:56]  * chz|bacon offers free beers to all for their understanding :P
[23:56]  * progre55 gets one
[23:57] <SunTsu> chz|bacon: btw. I already put arcsky on track of pam_motd.so
[23:57] <genjix> ok guys, i was defending Unity before because i assumed that Canonical knows what it's doing more than us hackers. but after trying it with my friend who is a new linux user since yesterday and my mum: i hate it, the entire geek community hates it, my mum hates it, my friend hates it.
[23:58] <genjix> unity is a failed experiment.
[23:58] <genjix> linux mint has overtaken ubuntu on distrowatch
[23:58] <chz|bacon> ahh so you don't want samba to autostart progre55 ?
[23:58] <genjix> unity == shit
[23:58] <m4v> genjix: try gnome shell.
[23:58] <genjix> i was supportive before.
[23:58] <chz|bacon> SunTsu: +1 you're a winner :)
[23:58] <pilouf> genjix: +1
[23:58] <progre55> chz|bacon: no, the other way around =) and trism already helped me out :)
[23:58] <genjix> but after testing with people, i cannot ignore the results
[23:59] <progre55> chz|bacon: thanks
[23:59] <m4v> genjix: and get a grip, this channel isn't for complain about it.
[23:59] <genjix> free advice
[23:59] <genjix> a complaint would be blaa blaa i didn't get my money's worth
[23:59] <SunTsu> I only knew of it because of http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/ - which is equally funny and true
[23:59] <genjix> i am switching to linux mint or arch in the future.