[03:36] <lhoersten> it should be simple. the data is all there. it's just not booting. I suspect there is still raid stuff left over in the superblocks since when I mount sda1 (which used to be raid) it says it doesn't know the partition type because it's raid. I force mount it as jfs then
[03:37] <amenado> lhoersten-> yes you are removing it, but dont you want to boot the remaining or you want to completely re-install?
[03:37] <Will> I'm not sure, but probably not.
[03:37] <sdakak> How do you get pulse audio to display sliders for bass,treble,etc?
[03:37] <alraune> roshan : xorg.conf ? pastebin ?
[03:37] <lhoersten> amenado: i want to boot the remainder
[03:37] <Will> I'll go into the install, to Manual and tell you what's there
[03:37] <CaptainMorgan> Will, put the live cd aside for now, get yourself a copy of the full disto's .iso, burn it an try again
[03:37] <alraune> roshan : type : gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <alraune> roshan : mark the content, copy to clipboard
[03:37] <roshan> alraune: i didnt understand the copy to clipboard. what do i have to copy
[03:38] <Will> I have the full distro
[03:38] <amenado> lhoersten-> well that link has the techniqure to recover the remaining
[03:38] <Will> I've tried installing it but the same thing happens
[03:38] <roshan> the whole thing in the gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:38] <lhoersten> amenado: ah ok i'll take a look
[03:38] <Guy> Hello this is my first time in any IRC chat, I was wondering if this is an ok place to ask for some live ubuntu help.
[03:38] <Will> I figured I should boot it from in here so I could be on IRC at the same time
[03:38] <Lvl21nerd> ok it says there is some deferred processing taking place and said the plugin was installed b4 that
[03:38] <amenado> lhoersten-> scenario where the primary may have died, so you recover from the second or mirror
[03:38] <alraune> roshan : similar to win, mark the whole file, choose copy (menubar or right mouse)
[03:38] <Lvl21nerd> whats the deferred processing and do i need to wait on that?
[03:39] <CaptainMorgan> Will, I'll have to hand this over to someone with more experience in here.... strangely, I ran into this problem when I tried to install solaris 10 on my dell box.... I think somehow the MBR is getting corrupted in some way
[03:39] <geniice> what is the copyright status of the logo?
[03:39] <roshan> yes i did
[03:39] <lhoersten> Sylphid: root=/dev/sda1
[03:39] <alraune> roshan : open a browser, go to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <roshan> alraune: i did it
[03:39] <lhoersten> Sylphid: oops =)
[03:39] <Will> Tech said it had to do with GRUB being imporperly installed, so that may be it
[03:39] <Will> but, thanks for getting someone else.
[03:39] <lhoersten> amenado: ok thanks. i'm reading it now
[03:40] <roshan> alraune: the site opened
[03:40] <Lvl21nerd> do i have to wait on the deferred processing that was mentioned after the install of the flash plugin
[03:40] <alraune> roshan : paste the file there, give the url in here.
[03:40] <Lvl21nerd> if i close the console will that be bad?
[03:40] <Guy> I just bought an NVIDIA GeForce 6200 AGP card and the driver in the Ubuntu 8.04 hardware drivers manager freezes my PC so I was wondering what I can do to get me card working properly?
[03:40] <CaptainMorgan> omg, alraune you're still trying to get a pastebin ???
[03:40] <johnhp> #dirty_talk
[03:40] <Lvl21nerd> lol
[03:40] <nickrud> !logo geniice (read the trademark link)
[03:41] <nickrud> !logo | geniice (read the trademark link)
[03:41] <roshan> alraune:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/28590/
[03:41] <geniice> ubottu I know I want to know the copyright status
[03:41] <Lvl21nerd> hello do i have to wait for that deferred processing after the flash install???
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> roshan, what was wrong with the community documentation I gave you?
[03:42] <Will> So, who's helping me?
[03:42] <Lvl21nerd> its ldconfig deferred processing
[03:42] <lhoersten> amenado: do you think it may be because the superblock has raid info in it?
[03:42] <alraune> roshan : do the same for /var/log/xorg.0.log,  I'll read
[03:42] <bazhang> Lvl21nerd, as long as it takes
[03:42] <geniice> nickrud read it from a copyright POV it is slightly useless
[03:42] <godsyn> wiil what is the issue?
[03:42] <Guy> Could someone please acknowledge that my messages are seen here?
[03:42] <bazhang> guy
[03:42] <Guy> thanks
[03:42] <bazhang> np
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> godsyn, after installing ubuntu, the system says an OS can't be found
[03:42] <dr_Willis> !hi | guy
[03:43] <CaptainMorgan> hello Guy
[03:43] <Guy> Thank you very much its my first time here.
[03:43] <roshan> CaptainMorgan: well i did it and it told me to restart the X or something by pressing Ctrl+Alt+backspace, it restarted and i logged in... but i didnt see any changes
[03:43] <karan> im having trouble with my flash plugin
[03:43] <Lvl21nerd> so....it gives me the option to do more input in the console....will it say when the processing is done?!
[03:43] <karan> the sound plays fine from my speakers
[03:43] <Will> Agh.
[03:43] <karan> but not from my headset when i'ts plugged in
[03:43] <Guy> I was hoping to get some help with my new video card.
[03:43] <karan> (still from teh speakers)
[03:43] <Will> CaptainMorgan, are yougetting someone or do I have to find someone to help
[03:43] <bazhang> Lvl21nerd, yes, it will do so
[03:43] <nickrud> geniice ah, I see what you mean. not sure what license it's under
[03:44] <Will> I'm really friggin' frustrated with Ubuntu.
[03:44] <geniice> nickrud okey then hmm
[03:44] <dr_Willis> !patience | Will
[03:44] <Lvl21nerd> ok well it said the flash plugin was installed....but i go to youtube and it says i need flash...
[03:44] <CaptainMorgan> roshan, I don't see any monitor settings in that xorg.conf - which is obviously crucial... there's only one line in your file..
[03:44] <Lvl21nerd> so whats up with that?
[03:44] <Guy> Will are you new to Linux?
[03:44] <alraune> roshan : paste the /var/log/xorg.0.log    file there, give the url in here.
[03:44] <bazhang> Lvl21nerd, did you have ff open all the time?
[03:44] <Will> Thanks Doctor.
[03:44] <Lvl21nerd> shite yea
[03:44] <karan> anyone?
[03:44] <pat__> Will, what is your issue?
[03:44] <roshan> alraune: /bash: /var/log/xorg.0.log: No such file or directory
[03:44] <zelrikriando> Lvl21nerd, restart FF
[03:44] <choudesh> sup dr_Willis . ;-) how is your day going?
[03:44] <CaptainMorgan> Will, generally, you're on your own, but I just mentioned it to godsyn
[03:44] <Will> I'm pretty new, yes.
[03:44] <bazhang> Lvl21nerd, watch the language and restart ff
[03:44] <Will> Thank you
[03:44] <Zoem> Can anyone help me fix my pulse audio?
[03:45] <Will> I'll copy and paste my issue again...
[03:45] <npope_> Will: whats the problem
[03:45] <dr_Willis> choudesh,  this day is now over.. :) grandbaby is in bed.. now grandpa is going to bed.
[03:45] <luckyone> does anyone know how good the rdp encryption is on vino?
[03:45] <dr_Willis> Night all.
[03:45] <Guy> Will if you need any help I would be more than happy to try with what I know from my Ubuntu use.
[03:45] <npope_> Zoem: whats the problem with it?
[03:45] <choudesh> dr_Willis, heh. Goodnight then.
[03:45] <roshan> CaptainMorgan: then what does it indicate
[03:45] <alraune> roshan : paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log    file there, give the url in here., upper the X
[03:45] <Will> Thanks Guy.
[03:45] <Will> I've tried to install Ubuntu (desktop) on my computer, but it does not work. When I reboot, there's a message saying "Missing operating system".
[03:45] <Lvl21nerd> WOO HOO Flash WORKS!!!!"
[03:45] <linos> is there a command to type to get a listing of computers on network??  thanks inadvance
[03:45] <npope_> what did you use to install it?  Wubi?
[03:45] <Lvl21nerd> its a milestone for me sorry for caps
[03:45] <choudesh> Will, do you have multiple hard drives?
[03:45] <roshan> alraune: it says permission denied
[03:45] <CaptainMorgan> roshan, you're missing horizsync and refresh settings for one... check that link !
[03:45] <Zoem> npope_ I was using it to send sound to another computer... but after a reboot, it just gives me a sound like a cd skipping. And no local sound at all
[03:46] <Will> No, just one.
[03:46] <pat__> Will, tell us a little bit about your hardware
[03:46] <CaptainMorgan> roshan, evidently, your settings didn't get saved
[03:46] <choudesh> Will, ok - you have the live cd handy?
[03:46] <alraune> roshan : paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log    file there, give the url in here., upper the X, sudo gedit ...
[03:46] <nickrud> geniice I opened an svg of the basic circle, it appears it's a proprietary license
[03:46] <Will> I'm using it now
[03:46] <Zoem> npope_ pulseaudio -k stops the sound, but it start again with the next thing after pulse audio -D
[03:46] <Lvl21nerd> ok this is sorta unrelated but how do i make a channel for IRC in pidgin?
[03:46] <roshan> CaptainMorgan: then wat do i do
[03:46] <Guy> Will does private messaging wirk with IRC chat? Im new to IRC and Im using Pidgin in ubuntu.Might be easier to see each others messages easier.
[03:46] <npope_> Will: you should reinstall grub...
[03:46] <geniice> nickrud uh huh I'll look into that
[03:46] <choudesh> Will, ok. Lets try some stuff.
[03:46] <npope_> and or edit grub by hand
[03:46] <choudesh> Will, first off - do you have an IDE or SATA hard drive?
[03:46] <Will> I'm pretty sure it's SATA
[03:46] <roshan> alraune: it says permission denied
[03:47] <npope_> Will: sounds like grub may be pointing to the wrong partiton for boot
[03:47] <Zoem> Will, just a tip, but when you are talking to someone, prefice the statement with their nick, to make it stand out more
[03:47] <lhoersten> i'm trying to remove my root partition from raid. I commented the lines in the mdadm.conf, changed my menu.1st, fstab, did a update-grub, and removed the boot flag from one of the mirrored root partitions. When I boot, it doesn't seem to try and boot /dev/sda1 like i've told it. I'm not even sure why it doesn't boot. anyone know what the problem might be?
[03:47] <Will> RIght, thanks Zoem.
[03:47] <npope_> Will: can you boot into Ubuntu?
[03:47] <alraune> roshan : sudo gedit /var/...
[03:47] <choudesh> Will, ok - first off lets see if the data is there. open terminal and type 'mkdir /mnt/TEST'
[03:47] <CaptainMorgan> roshan, you need sudo permission and this is that last time I'm saying anything since you're showing no effort to assist yourself... go for it alraune
[03:47] <choudesh> Will, err 'sudo mkdir /mnt/TEST'
[03:47] <Will> choudesh: Yes, it's SATA II
[03:47] <luckyone> when you run vino-preferences and make changes, what must you do to get the vnc server cycled?
[03:47] <roshan> yes i m doing
[03:48] <alraune> CaptainMorgan: like a virgin..
[03:48] <choudesh> Will, then 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/TEST'
[03:48] <CaptainMorgan> Will, care to pastebin the grub settings?
[03:48] <Will> Choudesh: alright
[03:48] <roshan> i am actually getting a bit confused.. since i am a new user too
[03:48] <CaptainMorgan> Will, menu.lst......
[03:48] <Guy> Will did you tell the installer to use all of the hard drive?
[03:48] <npope_> Will: can will boot into it?
[03:48] <Will> Guy: Yes
[03:48] <npope_> we should see /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:48] <choudesh> Will, what do you get as output?
[03:48] <Will> Hold on
[03:48] <roshan> alraune this is wat i got   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:49] <roshan> alraune :   sudo: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: command not found
[03:49] <choudesh> npope_, Guy I am just walking him through to see if he did install it. Then I will t show him how to resinstall grub
[03:49] <Sylphid> lhoersten, are you at least getting to grub when you boot
[03:49] <alraune> roshan : keep calm, or have a break if its too hard... open it with: sudo gedit   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:49] <choudesh> Will, have you completed those commands?
[03:49] <roshan> alraune: okk
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, if he's on a live cd, how can he tell?
[03:49] <Guy> Anyone here with NVIDIA driver experience?
[03:50] <lhoersten> Sylphid: yes. I just confirmed grub is installed on the MBR of sda (and sda1 and sdb1 where what I removed from raid)
[03:50] <alraune> paste there, url here...
[03:50] <npope_> i'm confused.... is Will booting into Ubuntu somehow?  Or using a live cd?
[03:50] <Will> I tried sudo mkdir /mnt/TEST, then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/TEST
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> npope_, apparently, he's using a live cd
[03:50] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, mounting the hard drive and see if there is a /sata/boot folder
[03:50] <Zoem> Guy, I'm pretty good with them
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, ahh...
[03:50] <Zoem> Guy what is the problem?
[03:50] <Will> Nothing happened
[03:50] <Sylphid> lhoersten, any errors or messages from grub ?
[03:50] <choudesh> Will, ok - now `cd /mnt/TEST/'
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> Will, what's in /mnt/TEST ?
[03:51] <Guy> Zoem Is there an easy way to install the *****.run NVIDIA driver without all the command line stuff?
[03:51] <choudesh> Will, tell me some of the folders in there.
[03:51] <lhoersten> Sylphid: not that I saw. I'm going to check again
[03:51] <Guy> The driver listed X.org new driver freezes my system.
[03:51] <roshan> alraune:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/28593/
[03:51] <linos> is there a command to type to get a listing of computers on network??  thanks inadvance
[03:51] <choudesh> linos, smbtree
[03:51] <Deus_Gear> hey guys how do you updat the kernel?
[03:51] <npope_> Guy: its very easy "sudo sh ./NVIDIA-xyx.run" and thats the only command you need
[03:51] <Zoem> Guy if you enable the multiverse repositories (System->Administration->Software Sources) you should be able to install EnvyNG through add/remove
[03:52] <Will> CHoudesh: I did cd /mnt/TEST/, now instead of ~$ after ubuntu@ubuntu:, there's /mnt/TEST$
[03:52] <Zoem> Guy this provides an easy way to install the NVidia 173.* driver
[03:52] <alraune> roshan : gimme few minutes..
[03:52] <choudesh> Deus_Gear, if there is a kernel update - just apt-get upgrade...to compile your own kernel is beyond the scope of this channel
[03:52] <npope_> Will: do LS
[03:52] <Guy> Yes I tried Envy but it doesnt finish.Gives an error.
[03:52] <genii> Deus_Gear: audo apt-get dist-upgrade   normally will do it, if a newer one is available
[03:52] <choudesh> Will, ok type 'ls'
[03:52] <genii> audo->sudo
[03:52] <roshan> alraune: take ur own time
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> Will, ok, do ls -l /mnt/TEST or if you're in it, do ls -l
[03:52] <bastid_raZor> !envyng
[03:52] <lhoersten> Sylphid: no grub errors. Grub seems to be working fine. The boot fails during initramfs. perhaps I have to rebuild that?
[03:52] <Zoem> Guy you don't get the error from running it on the command line?
[03:52] <roshan> alraune: i m grateful for trying 2 help me out
[03:52] <linos> choudesh, thank you
[03:53] <Deus_Gear> hmm
[03:53] <choudesh> linos, thank the channel
[03:53] <Michael_> how do i give myself the almighty power of root?
[03:53] <choudesh> Michael_, 'sudo'
[03:53] <Michael_> no
[03:53] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, *****sudo******
[03:53] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[03:53] <Michael_> not sudo, add root permissions to my account
[03:53] <Will> Choudesh: hold on, let me open up FF so I can do a Pastebin
[03:53] <Sylphid> lhoersten, what partition has swap?
[03:53] <Guy> Error from running what NVIDIA driver or Envy?
[03:53] <unop> Michael_, it's not recommended you do that
[03:53] <Michael_> I know
[03:53] <Deus_Gear> the raeson im asking is because im using 2.6.24-16. I cant get my compiz to work because of 945gme mix up as its not being associated with the intel driver. however kernel 19 is supposed to fix it
[03:53] <Will> What's the link to it?
[03:53] <choudesh> Michael_, if you are looking for persistent then 'sudo passwd root'
[03:53] <Michael_> but I want to do it
[03:53] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, add yourself to the root group ?
[03:53] <Deus_Gear> doing the command that was just listed doesnt update it
[03:54] <lhoersten> Sylphid: it was md1 (sda3 and sdb3)
[03:54] <lhoersten> Sylphid: I also took that out of raid
[03:54] <Will> Choudesh: What's the link to the pastebin site?
[03:54] <Michael_> how do i add myself to the root group?
[03:54] <Flannel> choudesh, Michael_ No.  don't set the root password.
[03:54] <lhoersten> Sylphid: now I just want sda2 and sdb2 to be in raid
[03:54] <choudesh> !pastebin | will
[03:54] <lhoersten> Sylphid: which mdadm put on md3
[03:54] <Zoem> Guy nvidia driver
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, man groupmod, usermod or userad
[03:54] <unop> Michael_, you don't want to do that - just use sudo when needed, simple
[03:54] <Flannel> Michael_: Are you capable of sudoing?
[03:54] <Guy> Zoem is it possible to private message you for one on one help?
[03:54] <Michael_> yes
[03:54] <Flannel> Michael_: then you're already an admin, you're done
[03:54] <Zoem> mrr... Guy, I suppose
[03:55] <nickrud> cs u<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:55] <roshan> CaptainMorgan: i have a doubt: i tried 2 watch movies, but i can't hear a thing frm speakers: though i have installed alsa nd vlc...my speakers are working fyn bcoz just a few days back i was working with Windows XP and ther was no prblm with speakers
[03:55] <Michael_> Well the problem is i cant use sudo for all of the GUI
[03:55] <Michael_> and i want the power for the GUI
[03:55] <Flannel> Michael_: gksu instead of sudo, and yes you can.
[03:55] <Michael_> wait!
[03:55] <Michael_> GUI SUDO?
[03:55] <Flannel> Michael_: you *really* should think twice before gksu-ing graphical programs
[03:55] <unop> Michael_, gksu nautilus  # then
[03:55] <Michael_> this is cool
[03:55] <choudesh> roshan, have you tried the simple things?
[03:55] <Will> Choudesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28594/
[03:55] <choudesh> roshan, like 'alsa-mixer'
[03:55] <Flannel> Michael_: Its less cool, and more extremely dangerous
[03:55] <choudesh> Will, wonderful
[03:56] <choudesh> Will, ok - next command
[03:56] <npope_> Will: cd /boot
[03:56] <lhoersten> Sylphid: i see what's happening. the raid scripts are running from /scripts/local-premount and they are still activating all my raid arrays. then I try to mount /dev/sda1 to /root for booting and it fails because it's been claimed in the raid
[03:56] <alraune> roshan : can u tell me which monitor, so manufacturer and model you use ?
[03:56] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, looks like a partial install ?
[03:56] <choudesh> Will, 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda'
[03:56] <Michael_> how do i run the file explorer with gksu?
[03:56] <roshan> yes som1 suggested that but i coudnt get the sound still
[03:56] <unop> Michael_, gksu nautilus
[03:56] <Michael_> thanks
[03:56] <lhoersten> Sylphid: for some reason, raid is still adding the two drivers =/
[03:56] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, yea - no lvm
[03:56] <Will> Choudesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28595/
[03:56] <DMan> silly question...i've been trying and I can't seem to figure it out...how do I get to a new server like "irc.blahblah.org"?
[03:57] <genii> DMan: /server newservername
[03:57] <jrock11> DMan:  /server irc.blahblah.org
[03:57] <CaptainMorgan> DMan, what do you mean "get to" ?
[03:57] <DMan> thanks! I just switched over a week ago and i'm working on getting used to everything
[03:58] <choudesh> Will, ok. 'grub-install -root-directory /mnt/TEST/boot /dev/sda'
[03:58] <npope_> DMan: what chat client you using?
[03:58]  * CaptainMorgan requires specificity ... :(
[03:58] <bastid_raZor> unop; mind if i pick your brain on the use of envy? is it still a bad idea?
[03:58] <Zoem> Can anyone help me fix my pulse audio?
[03:58] <Darkick> Hello everyone! :)
[03:58] <roshan> alraune: its LG, i dont have the papers for it, since its wid my far off cousin
[03:58] <choudesh> Will, oops
[03:58] <choudesh> Will, ok. 'grub-install -root-directory=/mnt/TEST/boot /dev/sda'
[03:58] <unop> bastid_raZor, i've never had the need to use it -- yes, it is obsoleted in favour of envyNG now
[03:58] <choudesh> Will, forgot the =
[03:58] <roshan> alraune: so i dont know the model no.
[03:58] <Darkick> Um, I was just wondering if someone could assist me with a problem that I've encountered.
[03:58] <Will> Oh
[03:59] <CaptainMorgan> !ask
[03:59] <Will> Let me re-enter it
[03:59] <alraune> roshan : any model labeld (back ofit ? size ? crt or LCD ?
[03:59] <Zoem> Hi, I use pulse audio to play my sound over a network, but after my last reboot, any sound just gives me a 'skipped cd' kind of repeat. I also have no sound on the computer I play the sound on. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:59] <roshan> alraune: crt
[03:59] <Sylphid> lhoersten, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=394281
[03:59] <bastid_raZor> unop; envyNG being the new, as you've stated.. but envy being seemingly horrible for use does envyNG now get approval and is now a recommended tool?
[04:00] <Will> Choudesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28598/
[04:00] <alraune> roshan : think 17"
[04:00] <unop> !envy | bastid_raZor,
[04:00] <roshan> alraune: model 552V
[04:00] <roshan> alraune: ya its 17"
[04:00] <alraune> roshan : :)
[04:00] <unop> bastid_raZor, as you can see, it is approved and is recommended
[04:00] <choudesh> Will, heh
[04:00] <choudesh> Will, ok. 'grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/TEST/boot /dev/sda'
[04:00] <choudesh> Will, doing this off the top of my head. ;-)
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> unop; okay, thanks.
[04:01] <HymnToLife> [05:00] <unop> bastid_raZor, as you can see, it is approved and is recommended <= it is recommended *over envy*
[04:01] <raxial> can anyone recommend a decent network traffic monitor....I want to use a xubuntu box to monitor my lan
[04:01] <lhoersten> Sylphid: aha good find! it was the superblock then!
[04:01] <lhoersten> Sylphid: I bet this will do it
[04:01] <Deus_Gear> can someone take a look at my xorg and see if im missing something? http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=9224
[04:01] <Will> Choudesh: Awesome.
[04:01] <HymnToLife> it's still better to avoid it altogether
[04:01] <roshan> choudesh: i tried the alsa-soundmixer, as som1 suggested but i dindt get anythin
[04:01] <CaptainMorgan> any luck Will ?
[04:01] <Will> Choudesh: mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/TEST/boot/boot': Permission denied
[04:01] <choudesh> roshan, ok. I will help you fix it. I apologize now if I repeat some stuff
[04:01] <CaptainMorgan> Deus_Gear, pastebin
[04:01] <choudesh> Will, ok. 'grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/TEST/ /dev/sda'
[04:01] <choudesh> Will, ok. 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/TEST/ /dev/sda'
[04:01] <Deus_Gear> i see
[04:01] <choudesh> I should read what I type...
[04:01] <roshan> choudesh: okk no probs
[04:01] <unop> HymnToLife, and what would be the reason for avoiding it totally?
[04:02] <Deus_Gear> il grab it once my laptops abttery recharged
[04:02] <Deus_Gear> batter*
[04:02] <mark53> hello
[04:02] <choudesh> roshan, first off... lets try alsamixer
[04:02] <choudesh> roshan, hit the tab key till you select ALL (top of the screen)
[04:02] <choudesh> roshan, next - make sure all the sliders are up
[04:02] <HymnToLife> unop: because ir's totally unnecessary, Occam's Razor ftw
[04:02] <HymnToLife> it*
[04:02] <mark53> anyone know why I can't see partitions during my install?
[04:02] <unop> HymnToLife, that's quite subjective
[04:03] <Will> CHoudesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28600/
[04:03] <Will> Choudesh: Be right back
[04:03] <alraune> roshan : just for future , is an 15 ", 120 Hz x 54 kHz Vert / Hor Refresh, note that somewhere, now I have to edit , brb
[04:03] <HymnToLife> unop: how? since when is envy necessary to install the nvidia drivers?
[04:03] <choudesh> Will, ok.
[04:03] <Guy> can anyone help with NVIDIA driver install?
[04:04] <Will> Choudesh: back
[04:04] <Ahadiel> Guy, System => Preferences => Hardware Drivers.
[04:04] <lhoersten> Sylphid: thanks for your help. it's hard for me to search around without X
[04:04] <choudesh> Will, ok - try to reboot now
[04:04] <roshan> alraune:  i dint quite understand
[04:04] <administrator_> ok... i have just plugged a monitor into my laptop... now i want to use the monitor instead of my laptops screen ,so i want to completely turn my laptops screen off and use the new monitor...
[04:04] <lhoersten> amenado: thanks for your help too
[04:04] <administrator_> how do i do this?
[04:04] <unop> HymnToLife, it's needed to download the latest drivers direct from nvidia or ati's website
[04:04] <Sylphid> lhoersten, no problem, hope that helped
[04:04] <HymnToLife> unop: wrong
[04:04] <amenado> lhoersten-> you're welcome, i hope it works for you
[04:04] <Will> Alright
[04:04] <CaptainMorgan> best of luck Will!
[04:05] <lhoersten> Sylphid: we'll see. That was my hypothesis before and this just supports it even more =D
[04:05] <Will> CM: thank you
[04:05] <lhoersten> i bet it will
[04:05] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like he'll need it
[04:05] <administrator_> can anyone help wth this monitor based stuff?
[04:05] <Will> Choudesh: before I reboot, should I install?
[04:05] <amenado> administrator_-> your laptop has key combination you have to type?
[04:05] <choudesh> Will, no - you already installed it.
[04:05] <choudesh> Will, we just fixed the boot loader
[04:05] <HymnToLife> administrator_: either use some key sequence your laptop provides, or your graphics card's driver
[04:06] <administrator_> administrator_, with windows it detects it automatically so im guessing its a ubuntu thing
[04:06] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, know how to do that for solaris 10 ? :D
[04:06] <raxial> I'm looking for decent lan monitoring apps....I'm using autoscan, etherape....are there better apps?
[04:06] <Will> Choudesh: Alright, I'll be back, hopefully with the full Ubuntu.
[04:06] <administrator_> ymnToLife, with windows it detects it automatically so im guessing its a ubuntu thing
[04:06] <administrator_> is there any ubuntu settings it could be?
[04:06] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, yea. I used to work for Sun many moons ago...hmmm and I am only 23....
[04:06] <alraune> roshan : I#m editing your xorg.conf now, though the moni is quite poor, Max Resolution: 1024 x 768 / 60 Hz
[04:07] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, pm ?
[04:07] <roshan> alraune: okk
[04:07] <cottima> unop I am retrying the install.  in the "[!!] Configuring Grub" do I put /dev/md0, /dev/sda, (hd0), or (hd0,1)?
[04:07] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, sure if it isn't too hard. ;-) my daughter is starting to stir
[04:08] <Zoem> Hi, I use pulse audio to play my sound over a network, but after my last reboot, any sound just gives me a 'skipped cd' kind of repeat. I also have no sound on the computer I play the sound on. Can anyone help me with this?
[04:08] <Lvl21nerd> how do i make an irc channel through pidgin?
[04:08] <administrator_> Zoem, got any heavy network traffic running?
[04:08] <unop> cottima, that would depend .. (hd0,1) within the context of grub, /dev/sda1 for any scripts that need to know which device to install onto
[04:08] <Zoem> administrator_ that is the only traffic on a full gig-e network
[04:09] <administrator_> Zoem, should be fine then...
[04:09] <PorkSoda> Gentlepeople, I'm having problems with nautilus automatically mounting drives. I can mount it manually with no problem. When I try to mount it via the gnome panel icon it gives an error, with no error message. Any ideas?
[04:09] <PorkSoda> :)
[04:09] <Zoem> oh, ran away
[04:09] <cEmx> hi all.
[04:10] <b0xxy> hi
[04:10] <lampliter> under ubuntu how can I display the filesystem type of a disk partition
[04:10] <PorkSoda> lampliter, mount with no argument?
[04:10] <lampliter> no go. it asks for a fs
[04:11] <roshan> alraune: so now wat do i do... to get the right resolution nd make it smaller icons
[04:11] <ramiel77> i just got a brand new dell inspiron 1420 and installed ubuntu 8.04 but the wireless drivers weren't found in restricted hardware, how can i find which ones i need and install them?
[04:11] <PorkSoda> lampliter, cat /proc/mounts ?
[04:11] <lampliter> thought it might be lvmed but vgscan and lvscan show nithing.
[04:11] <Sorlag> does anyone of you have an ATI-card working with compiz?!
[04:12] <Sylphid> ramiel77, what do you get from lspci
[04:12] <Blaqlight> anyone have any experience with irssi?
[04:12] <lampliter> was able to mount the root part and fstab is all mount by lable
[04:12] <lampliter> maybe a way to display lables might help
[04:14] <alraune> roshan : back again, open a terminal..
[04:14] <ramiel77> does anyone know about wireless devices?
[04:14] <Sylphid> ramiel77, what do you get from lspci
[04:14] <lampliter> any ideas on showind disk lables?
[04:15] <unop> HymnToLife, I wonder why you said i was wrong about envyNG? care to explain
[04:15] <FastZ> lampliter, what do you mean?
[04:15] <FastZ> lampliter, and it is "labels" not "lables"
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> Sorlag, did.. but eventually bit the dust.... is it worth it?
[04:15] <alraune> roshan : ?
[04:15] <lampliter> you can mout a fs by  lable
[04:15] <cottima> unop, so onto the partition, will try (hd0,1)
[04:16] <lampliter> I wnat to list the lables on a drive
[04:16] <ramiel77> sylphidNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[04:16] <Sorlag> CaptainMorgan which one did u have?
[04:16] <Sylphid> !broadcom | ramiel77
[04:16] <unop> cottima, i'm not sure where you are  -- if you are within the installer somewhere, try using /dev/sda /dev/sda1 .. if that fails, then use hd(0,1)
[04:16] <CaptainMorgan> x1300 i think...
[04:16] <FastZ> lampliter, i've seen disk labels being used to mount drives in openSUSE but I've never seen it used in Ubuntu
[04:16] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, did Will come back?
[04:17] <Sorlag> CaptainMorgan that might help. what drivers did u use?
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, don't think so...
[04:17] <ramiel77> ubottu, thanks
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> who are the admins here?
[04:17] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, heh - must have worked.
[04:17] <lampliter> yea, I was handed a centos disk and told to make it work
[04:17] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, you mean the ops?
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, :D
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, yes
[04:17] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan, what is the issue
[04:17] <PorkSoda> !usb
[04:17] <PorkSoda> :)
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, are you an op?
[04:17] <choudesh> CaptainMorgan, look @ the irc team
[04:17] <PorkSoda> !mount
[04:18] <CaptainMorgan> choudesh, aren't they the handles with ^ or [] ?
[04:18] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: If you have an issue, you can bring it up in #ubuntu-ops
[04:18] <CaptainMorgan> maybe not...
[04:18] <CaptainMorgan> k, thanks Flannel
[04:18] <Lvl21nerd> does pidgin have a limit of channels to have open for IRC?
[04:18] <jmoncayo> hi guys, i have an usb bluetooth and i want to sniff the traffic between 2 cellphones but hcidump is showing nothing
[04:19] <ice_cream> lampliter,  df -h ,   and then compare with   sudo fdisk -l
[04:19] <ice_cream> oh, there was one other parted command that i'm forgetting for better info (ext2, ext3 etc)
[04:20] <ramiel77> i apparently need the bcm4328 driver, how can i get that?
[04:20] <jmoncayo> how do i configure an usb bluetooth
[04:20] <ice_cream> oh,   sudo parted /dev/sda print
[04:20] <FastZ> lampliter, check in /dev/disk/ and you should see a few different directories that have volume labels listed
[04:20] <JFCake> Hello there
[04:21] <ice_cream> bah, lag
[04:21] <cottima> unop oh, sorry about the communication.  Now I am getting the grub boot list for ubuntu, but still error 15.
[04:21] <lampliter> FastZ: thanks
[04:21] <JFCake> I'm having a problem with Wubi on Windows Vista SP1
[04:21] <FastZ> lampliter, no problem
[04:21] <unop> cottima, do you have a live CD or any other distro's live CD that isn't an installer CD?
[04:22] <JFCake> I've downloaded the lastest Wubi installer, both Desktop and Alternate ISO's for Ubuntu 8.04.1 and placed them in the same folder as wubi.exe
[04:22] <JFCake> and still it downloads the file
[04:22] <cottima> unop yes, sorry, I did not think it would take this time (of yours),
[04:23] <ice_cream> omg, wubi? oo *looks into it*
[04:23] <JFCake> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[04:23] <JFCake> And (for some reason I feel like saying OFCOURSE) when I burned the desktop iso as Live CD wubi didn't work
[04:24] <ice_cream> nvm, i thought wubi was a virtualization type of thing =/
[04:24] <JFCake> Anyone?
[04:24] <mechdave> JFCake, I am looking into it for you
[04:25] <unop> cottima, the best thing i think you ought to do is this.  boot up the live CD, mount /boot and the lvm to and chroot in. then reinstall the linux-image package within the chroot .. it ought to install grub properly and setup LVM for boot
[04:25] <mechdave> JFCake, Ok what is the problem you are experiencing?
[04:25] <Zoem> Hi, I use pulse audio to play my sound over a network, but after my last reboot, any sound just gives me a 'skipped cd' kind of repeat. I also have no sound on the computer I play the sound on. Can anyone help me with this?
[04:25] <JFCake> Well
[04:25] <JFCake> First I burned the desktop Live CD iso
[04:25] <JFCake> ran it, didnt work
[04:25] <bastid_raZor> ice_cream; vmware, in my opinion,is one of the best virtualization apps for ubuntu.
[04:25] <JFCake> so I downloaded the latest version of wubi
[04:26] <JFCake> placed both Alternate and Desktop ISO of ubuntu 8.04.1 in the same folder as wubi.exe
[04:26] <administrator_> hello?
[04:26] <cottima> unop sorry, "reinstall the linux image package".  how do I do that?
[04:26] <JFCake> and it still downloads the file
[04:26] <JFCake> when I already have both ISO's
[04:26] <Zoem> administrator_ I hear you
[04:26] <unop> cottima, http://www.techbytes.ca/techbyte118.html # should help with mounting the LVM in the live CD session.
[04:26] <whitefire> ice_cream, I don't think so
[04:26] <FastZ> JFCake, you did try to run the Live CD by restarting your computer and changing your boot device to CD-ROM right?
[04:26] <mechdave> JFCake, Ok hang on I shall have a quick read of the README for wubi
[04:26] <administrator_> i have just enabled the propierty drivers for ubuntu for my laptop, as soon as i did that and reset, now my wireless isnt configuring
[04:26] <administrator_> anyone know whats going on?
[04:26] <JFCake> har har yes
[04:26] <ice_cream> what? you guys are answering a question i didnt ask or even imply =P
[04:27] <JFCake> Live CD works
[04:27] <JFCake> but I'm trying to install ubuntu using Wubi
[04:27] <administrator_> ???? can someone please help me?
[04:27] <unop> cottima, once you have chrooted into the system.  use this command to find out which linux-image package you have installed   dpkg -l | grep -i linux-image  then to reinstall it   aptitude reinstall linux-image-$VERSION_YOU_FOUND
[04:27] <whitefire> ice_cream, virtualbox is so good
[04:27]  * ice_cream nods
[04:27] <ramiel77> can some one help me with setting up a broadcom 4328 wireless driver?
[04:28] <FastZ> JFCake, http://www.howtoforge.com/wubi_ubuntu_on_windows
[04:28] <administrator_> ramiel77, what do u need?
[04:28] <mechdave> JFCake, Ok have you tried turning off your internet before you run wubi?
[04:28] <ice_cream> whitefire, i dont always need the full effect of linux when i'm at work, so cygwin is usually enough
[04:28] <JFCake> not really mechdave
[04:28] <administrator_> can anyone help with Wireless stuff!!!!!
[04:29] <ramiel77> administrator_ i just bought a dell inspiron 1420 and i need to know how i can get my broadcom 4328 wireless driver working
[04:29] <ice_cream> but at home.. i just have several diff. computers =P
[04:29] <JFCake> but that'd be real stupid if it works
[04:29] <mechdave> JFCake, It seems  as though wubi will look for an internet connection first and if it can't find one it defaults to a iso install
[04:29] <JFCake> Jesus christ :/
[04:29] <mechdave> JFCake, another thing, you did put the .iso file in the same folder as wubi?
[04:30] <JFCake> Yes
[04:30] <JFCake> Both Desktop and Alternate
[04:30] <JFCake> I'll disconnect and see if it works
[04:30] <FastZ> administrator_, http://speedbump.ws/?p=12
[04:31] <mechdave> JFCake, righto... just a sec see if I can find you some more info
[04:31] <JFCake> and if it does, I'll bitch about it to the bug to the ubuntu team allday
[04:31] <ice_cream> administrator_, it's hard to tell what's going on, but if i were you, i'd check to see if /etc/network/interfaces is still working, and then try sudo ifdown eth1  followed by sudo ifup eth1   =P
[04:31] <JFCake> mechdave I'll try and report back
[04:31] <FastZ> ramiel77, http://speedbump.ws/?p=12
[04:31] <mechdave> JFCake, LOL, righto
[04:31] <ice_cream> er...  s/working/normal/
[04:31] <ramiel77> FastZ, thanks
[04:32] <Will> Choudesh: It didn't work. It took a while because I tried to install it again after it failed, but that didn't work either.
[04:32] <ForzaPalermo> what is the default ubuntu meta key
[04:32] <FastZ> ramiel77, Google is man's best friend
[04:32] <administrator_> ice_cream, it can see all the wireless networks, just when i try and configure one, it spends hours trying ot connect then just dies...
[04:32] <ramiel77> FastZ, does it matter if it's rev01 or rev 03?
[04:32] <AMDpenguin> is it normal for windows to hose a partition table?
[04:32] <Will> Choudesh: By failed I mean it said "Missing operating system" once again.
[04:32] <CaptainMorgan> Will, a new install would overwrite any grub changes you made.... no choudesh ?
[04:32] <administrator_> ice_cream, dies as in goes back to the i dont have a network screen
[04:33] <FastZ> ramiel77, i doubt it.  the steps to install the driver would be the same regardless of rev# i would assume
[04:33] <Will> Captain: I tried before the install and it didn't work. Choudesh left?
[04:33] <ramiel77> FastZ ok
[04:33] <ice_cream> administrator_, hmm, better to ask someone who uses that same wireless configuring [Gnome?] app
[04:34] <administrator_> ice_cream, its not the app i think, its the driver, it was working fine before i enabled the Ati driver and restarted... which doesnt make sense???
[04:34] <tcz> is there a compiz support channel on freenode?
[04:34] <Will> Captain: Well this sucks.
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> Will, for #ubuntu irc discussions, it's best to use nick completion if your irc app supports it... simply by using <tab>
 ?
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> Will, I know the feeling.... not sure what choudesh is up to... but maybe he'll assist later
[04:35] <FastZ> Will, the TAB key on your keyboard
[04:35] <Will> Oh
[04:35] <ListenToMyMusic> when i run apt-build the following error occurs: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/apt-build line 32
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> Will, for example, Captain doesn't notify me a new messages, but Ca <tab> will bring up some similar names to pick from
[04:35] <Will> Oh
[04:35] <ListenToMyMusic> Can't locate AppConfig.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/apt-build line 32.
[04:35] <ListenToMyMusic> anyone know of anything?
[04:35] <mechdave> Will, What happened?
[04:35] <Zoem> After the kernel update to 2.6.24-19, my sound no longer works, including network sound with pulse audio. Can anyone help me with this please?
[04:36] <ListenToMyMusic> i tried a reinstall of perl
[04:36] <extor> Is ubuntu used as a web server much?
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> mechdave, he's back to ground zero
[04:36] <ListenToMyMusic> i use it as a server
[04:36] <mechdave> CaptainMorgan, no OS eh?
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> extor, absolutey, I'm using it right now with about 65 days uptime
[04:36] <cottima> okay done, unop
[04:36] <Will> mechdave: nothing
[04:36] <administrator_> ice_cream, nope still wont connect :(
[04:37] <mechdave> Will, do you have a live cd version of ubuntu?
[04:37] <ice_cream> administrator_, after what changes..?
[04:37] <administrator_> ice_cream, is there anyone to quickly tell what security a Wireless network is running?
[04:37] <AMDpenguin> will reinstalling windows take down ubuntu or just grub?
[04:37] <extor> CaptainMorgan, so why do people choose it over debian? And may I ask what VERSION of ubuntu you are using?
[04:37] <Will> mechdave: I'm using the live CD now
[04:37] <administrator_> ice_cream, enabling the Ati gfx card drivers...
[04:37] <harpreet> how to i get 3d desktop amd64
[04:37] <|Zippo|> somebody is having troubles with CDRECORD?
[04:37] <FastZ> administrator_, iwconfig should show that i think
[04:37] <administrator_> ice_cream, i think it maybe that its not picking up the correct security protocol
[04:37] <unop> cottima, so you reinstalled linux-image?
[04:37] <mechdave> AMDpenguin, a win reinstall will take out the MBR and so Ubuntu will nott boot even though it is still there
[04:37] <ice_cream> administrator_,  you said "still wont connect" as if you changed something just now
[04:37] <obidiah> extor: because debian is hopelessly out of date and has dysfunction community politics
[04:38] <AMDpenguin> SO how would i fix it?
[04:38] <alraune> caAMDpenguin :need more info
[04:38] <administrator_> ice_cream, na, i just tried connecting again
[04:38] <ice_cream> administrator_, and sudo iwlist scanning   will show you a list of current networks in range
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> extor, maybe it boils down to preference, but ubuntu has really matured in the server, as well as dekstop, arenas.. I'm currently using the latest and greatest 8.04 LTS
[04:38] <|Zippo|> "CDRECORD has no permission to open this device"
[04:38] <administrator_> ice_cream, kk
[04:38] <Will> Wow, whenever someone says the word will I get notified
[04:38] <mechdave> Will, what does sudo fdisk -l say?
[04:38] <Zoem> After the kernel update to 2.6.24-19, my sound no longer works, including network sound with pulse audio. Can anyone help me with this please?
[04:38] <Will> it's weird
[04:38] <extor> obidiah, woa for real? I thought ubuntu = debian-testing?
[04:38] <Will> mechdave: hold on
[04:38] <obidiah> extor hehe
[04:38] <unop> ListenToMyMusic, try this to install AppConfig.  sudo cpan AppConfig
[04:38] <mechdave> Will, stick it in the pastebin]
[04:38] <extor> CaptainMorgan, but isnt ubuntu = debian testing? Meaning...the packages are not as mature and hence not as safe from sploits?
[04:38] <Will> mechdave, alright
[04:38] <harpreet> how to i get 3d desktop amd64
[04:39] <obidiah> more like debian is australopithicus
[04:39] <Will> mechdave, in terminal right?
[04:39] <alraune> extor: did debian people say so ? lol
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> debian is old and ubuntu is the new, extor  :)
[04:39] <mechdave> Will, that's right
[04:39] <Will> mechdave, nothing happened.
[04:39] <administrator_> ice_cream, ill take a look and see if i can config it
[04:39] <Will> mechdave, nevermind
[04:39] <Will> I made a typo
[04:39] <cottima> yes, unop.  what next?
[04:39] <extor> But I thought ubuntu couldnt live without debian...isnt debian the mother of all debs?
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> i have lib appconfig-perl installed
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> libappconfig-perl*
[04:40] <Zoem> CaptainMorgan everything about ubuntu is debian except the most superficial. We need to remember just how much work they put into building *our* OS every day
[04:40] <obidiah> extor: I come from the red hat world, I switched to ubuntu for my laptop because it has more recent libraries and smoother support for desktop stuff
[04:40] <unop> ListenToMyMusic, or if that doesn't work.  sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install "AppConfig"'
[04:40] <gcarrillo> i know this is the wrong forum, but can anybody suggest a similiar chan for mac users?
[04:41] <ListenToMyMusic> unop: ok
[04:41] <alraune> Zoem: :)
[04:41] <ice_cream> yea, it's nice that ubuntu is now really trying to stay current
[04:41] <CaptainMorgan> Zoem, I'm not denying anything on the debian side, without it - there may be no ubuntu, of course...
[04:41] <ramiel77> i've been following this instructions on this website, http://speedbump.ws/?p=12, to install a wireless driver and i can't get the fileroller command to unzip the .exe to work
[04:41] <bert[1]> Hello everyone. My current setup is a dual-boot system between ubuntu and windowsxp, with grub on the ubuntu partition. My cd drive has since spoiled, and i was wondering if using unetbootin would work
[04:41] <obidiah> I don't think ubuntu offers any advantages as a server, but is a fine server. On the desktop, it's clearly the best distro
[04:41] <unop> cottima,  sudo update-initramfs; sudo update-grub
[04:41] <Will> mechdave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28603/
[04:41] <CaptainMorgan> or may have been
[04:41] <Zoem> CaptainMorgan ok, I get a little defensive of debian sometimes, even though I love Ubuntu
[04:41] <ice_cream> but i may move over to crux to test a few ideas out..
[04:41] <gluer> just hearing the name windows makes me sick
[04:41] <gluer> lol
[04:41] <Zoem> Its more, Debian is the hard and 'buntu is the liveable :D
[04:41] <unop> cottima, then if all went well, you should be able to reboot and be up in ubuntu
[04:42] <ice_cream> gluer,  pfft =P
[04:42] <Smegzor> How can I use my ubuntu cd to split a hdd partition in two without qtparted?  Trying to install qtparted is proving impossible.  The cd runs so slowly and locks up a lot.
[04:42] <Zoem> After the kernel update to 2.6.24-19, my sound no longer works, including network sound with pulse audio. Can anyone help me with this please?
[04:42] <mechdave> Will, your partitions are still there!
[04:42] <extor> obidiah, so ubuntu over knoppix even?
[04:42] <gluer> lol: after over 20,000 xp installations i think i can say that
[04:42] <cottima> unop update-initramfs is asking for option switches
[04:42] <unop> Smegzor, are you on a live CD?
[04:42] <Will> mechdave, so what do I do?
[04:42] <mechdave> Will, I just have to remember how to mount an extended partition...
[04:42] <CaptainMorgan> I'm not sure what I said that was offensive Zoem, extor there's a tremendous amount of communal and documentation support for ubuntu too which continues to grow
[04:42] <cottima> update or create?
[04:42] <ramiel77> i need help with file-roller?
[04:43] <Will> Take your time mechdave
[04:43] <bert[1]> if i already have a dualboot system running (ubuntu/windowsxp), and my cd drive has spoilt, can i use unetbootin to re-install ubuntu on the partition?
[04:43] <alraune> Smegzor: what HW are u running ?
[04:43] <unop> cottima,  sudo update-initramfs -u; sudo update-grub
[04:43] <Zoem> CaptainMorgan oh, prolly me over-reacting. I'm sorry if I offended
[04:43] <Smegzor> unop: yes
[04:43] <cottima> sorry, thanks.  what next, unop?
[04:43] <unop> Smegzor, ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:44] <Smegzor> alraune: its a Dell pc (not terribly powerful)
[04:44] <FastZ> Will, mechdave, run the command 'mount' at the command line to see what partitions you've already got mounted
[04:44] <Smegzor> unop: ubuntu
[04:44] <unop> cottima, reboot and cross your fingers :)
[04:44]  * extor wonders if he should install ubuntu or kubtuntu
[04:44] <Zoem> CaptainMorgan after all, this is a linux channel. since no one was talking about emacs, we needed some argument :D
[04:44] <unop> Smegzor, gparted should already be available
[04:44] <alraune> Smegzor: ram ?
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> Will, how about divulging your hardware specs.... not sure if it will matter a lot.. but maybe check the HCL for ubuntu ?
[04:44] <ListenToMyMusic> unop: that worked but, why would that happen all of the sudden? apt-build was working before
[04:44] <administrator_> hello?
[04:44] <unop> !ot | Zoem
[04:44] <mechdave> Will, FastZ, he is running off live disk... but a good idea none the less
[04:44] <administrator_> ice_cream, nope, still doesnt connect...
[04:44] <Zoem> After the kernel update to 2.6.24-19, my sound no longer works, including network sound with pulse audio. Can anyone help me with this please?
[04:44] <Smegzor> i've never found it before.  when it unfreezes I'll have another look
[04:45] <administrator_> ice_cream, should i try reinstalling ndiswrapper and the drivers?
[04:45] <bert[1]> hello?
[04:45] <Will> FastZ, mount in the terminal?
[04:45] <unop> ListenToMyMusic, can't say for sure -- my guess is that the module failed to load because it was corrupt or missing
[04:45] <Smegzor> argh!  rebooting it (i'm not on it in here)
[04:45] <mechdave> Will, yes mate
[04:45] <CaptainMorgan> Will, yes, just mount
[04:45] <Tonren> Will this iptables setup block IP addresses in the 2 expected ranges? http://pastebin.com/m5e923433
[04:45] <FastZ> Will, yes, just type the word 'mount' and hit enter it should show you what partitions are already mounted.
[04:45] <alraune> Smegzor: ram ?  u could also try gparted live cd or knoppix
[04:45] <Will> mechdave, hold on I'll put it in pastebin...
[04:46] <Smegzor> I was on knoppix before.  the partition in question is NTFS and its hidden and not selectable for some reason
[04:46] <Will> Mechdave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28604/
[04:46] <Smegzor> i tried mounting it (which I was able to do) that didn't unhide it from qtparted
[04:46]  * CaptainMorgan recommends straight shot of ubuntu for extor, but if graphical is your thing then try kubuntu
[04:47] <ListenToMyMusic> unop: k thank you
[04:47] <alraune> Smegzor: ram ?  to resize, partitons mussn't be mounted
[04:47] <Smegzor> i think it has 1 gig
[04:47] <alraune> Smegzor: ram ?  to resize, partitons mussn't be mounted
[04:47] <Smegzor> it was mounted
[04:47] <bert[1]> hello?
[04:47] <CaptainMorgan> wow.. / or hdd's arent even mounted
[04:47] <AMDpenguin> wat should i use for a 7GB partition on windows fat32 or NTFS?
[04:48] <extor> so K is more graphical than G?
[04:48] <alraune> Smegzor: no prob with live cd then, coul you paste a partition table ?
[04:48] <AMDpenguin> I only need it for videos that ubuntu dosent support
[04:48] <bert[1]> hello everyone
[04:48] <Will> mechdave? You alive?
[04:48] <Smegzor> i'm waiting for the live cd to boot up again.  its slooooow
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> extor, yes
[04:48] <FastZ> CaptainMorgan, I think mechdave said Will was using a LiveCD so naturally the hdd wouldnt be mounted
[04:48] <bert[1]> i'm running an ubuntu and xp dualboot with two partitions
[04:48] <cottima> unop, no luck.  Hey  Thank you very much!  I have to call it a night.  I will try the Ubuntu alternate and see, since I was using xubuntu.  (Unless the main xubuntu or ubuntu install support soft raid)
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> FastZ, oh, my bad
[04:48] <bert[1]> however i want to reinstall ubuntu
[04:48] <bert[1]> but my cd drive has spoilt
[04:48] <bert[1]> how can i do it?
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> bert[1], cd drive has what?
[04:49] <Smegzor> also (small grumble) i always have to boot in safe graphics mode.  almost all pc's I've ever put the cd in don't support a display without some tweak like that.  i see black screens a lot.
[04:49] <Flannel> bert[1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[04:49] <bert[1]> my cd drive is not working anymore
[04:49] <extor> If KDE is more graphic then why doesn't ubuntu use KDE by default?
[04:49] <J-_> wooo yellow ledbetter
[04:49] <CaptainMorgan> bert[1], if you need to reboot into windows, fix the mbr first.. then you can always install ubuntu over again... ooh.. but your cd drive isn't work...
[04:49] <Smegzor> oh great.  the live cd just crashed
[04:49] <unop> cottima, well, i have to call it a night too - come back in later and tell someone what you see exactly when booting up
[04:49] <bert[1]> oh ok thanks, Flannel
[04:49] <alraune> Smegzor: want to give ubuntu live a try ....  you checked the cd is in order?
[04:49] <FastZ> Will, what were you trying to do again?  I think the beginning of yours and mechdave's conversation got lost in the mix and I cant find it.  clue me in on what's wrong and ill be glad to pitch in a bit of help if i can
[04:49] <extor> I like the Ksnapshot it just blows gnome snapshot away
[04:49] <J-_> wrong channel
[04:49] <Smegzor> yes i got the cd to test itself
[04:49] <cottima> Thank you unop!
[04:50] <bert[1]> Flannel: Thanks a lot
[04:50] <JFCake> mechdave, amigo
[04:50] <Smegzor> i'm going back to knoppix.  this is nuts
[04:50] <JFCake> I've disconnected and did exactly what I did when I was on the internet
[04:50] <JFCake> and it worked while I was disconnected
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> extor,  too much overhead? ubuntu maybe aims to be simplistic and efficient
[04:50] <JFCake> Thank yall for listening folks
[04:50] <ramiel77> i tried getting my bm4328 driver to work with ndiswrapper and it didn't work any suggestions?
[04:50] <alraune> Smegzor: actual knoppix with ntfs support ?
[04:50] <cottima> Keep safe everyone.
[04:50]  * extor isn't satisfied with that explanation
[04:51] <mechdave> Will, Ok now type into your terminal sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /mnt
[04:51] <Smegzor> i have the latest version and 5.1.1
[04:51] <Will> FastZ, basically I've tried to install Ubuntu multiple times through the Live CD and install right off of the CD without going into the demo, but every time I reboot the system has a message that just says "Missing operating system". It always completes the installation process, but never works upon reboot
[04:51] <mechdave> JFCake, How did you go?
[04:51] <Will> mechdave, alright
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> unless someone else chimes in, it'll have to do extor
[04:51] <alraune> Smegzor:go ahead..
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> otherwise, there's always google
[04:51] <JFCake> Its all good
[04:51] <JFCake> it installed perfectly
[04:51] <Smegzor> loading 5.3.1 now (the dvd version)
[04:52] <FastZ> ramiel77, could you paste the output of 'lspci' in a pastebin and then paste the link to the pastebin post?
[04:52] <FastZ> pastebin | ramiel77
[04:52] <DamienG> How can I tell what type of RAM I need, I'm buying 2GB soon and don't want to eff up.
[04:52] <FastZ> pastebin!
[04:52] <mechdave> FastZ, We are trying to acertain if will still has a filesystem on his partitions
[04:52] <FastZ> eh, i dunno how to manipulate the ubottu
[04:52] <JFCake> disconnecting worked
[04:52] <CaptainMorgan> !pastebin | ramiel77
[04:52] <DamienG> It's !pastebin
[04:52] <JFCake> anywho, I'll continue the installation now by restarting my computer
[04:52] <JFCake> thanks
[04:52] <Will> mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28606/
[04:52] <DamienG> How can I tell what type of RAM I need, I'm buying 2GB soon and don't want to eff up.
[04:53] <mechdave> JFCake, I am glad to hear that, I read after you left that it would only work with a cd image and not a dvd image
[04:53] <alraune> uu, roshan doesn't comeback from reboot...
[04:53] <CaptainMorgan> DamienG, that might be a question suited for the motherboard's manufacturer
[04:53] <mechdave> Will, Hmmmm one minute
[04:53] <nickrud> DamienG sudo lshw will tell you what type of chips you're using now ...
[04:53] <FastZ> Will, mechdave, do you think that could be something to do with the MBR?  Will, are you duel booting?  Can you boot into Windows?
[04:53] <administrator_> ramiel????
[04:54] <administrator_> ramiel77, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=1501
[04:54] <Will> FastZ, Ubuntu removed Windows.
[04:54] <ramiel77> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28607/
[04:54] <Will> Luckily I do not want to dual-boot
[04:54] <mechdave> FastZ, I am guessing that he has lost the grub install on his mbr
[04:54] <Derander> Does anyone know where I can go to get help with Wine?
[04:54] <Flannel> Derander: #winehq
[04:54] <cobber2005> hello, can anyone help me with a flicker problem in Hardy?
[04:55] <Will> mechdave, my install is on a DVD as opposed to a CD, could this be a problem?
[04:55] <Will> mechdave, er, not the install, but the ISO is burned onto a DVD
[04:55] <obidiah> cobber2005: yes
[04:55] <mechdave> Will, the .iso is burned as a file or as a filesystem?
[04:56] <cobber2005> obidiah, thanks, it happens afiter I suspend and then wake up
[04:56] <Will> mechdave, I'm not sure
[04:56] <mechdave> Will, well it did boot from the cd
[04:56] <cobber2005> the screen flickers whenever the system is under load/
[04:56] <ramiel77> ubottu, CaptainMorgan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28607/
[04:56] <obidiah> are you switching from metacity back into compiz
[04:56] <Will> mechdave, yes
[04:57] <CaptainMorgan> ramiel77, what are you showing me ? I was only assisting FastZ with the bot manipulation :)
[04:57] <cobber2005> I don't really know what metacity is.  Compiz is the animation stuff in the UI, right?  I have that turned off.
[04:57] <Will> mechdave, I saw you were talking to that one guy JFcake, and you said something about it not working off of a DVD
[04:57] <mechdave> Will, there is not a problem with your cd but I think we have a problem with your master boot record... try sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[04:57] <FastZ> Will, mechdave, can you access gParted in an Ubuntu liveCD while on that computer?  that should show you the labels for the partitions... it might not be /dev/sda2 for your what you're trying to get into
[04:57] <mechdave> Will, He was using a different install method al together
[04:58] <CaptainMorgan> mechdave, choudesh walked him through grub-install
[04:58] <CaptainMorgan> just an fyi
[04:58] <mechdave> CaptainMorgan, Right... Hmmmm strange
[04:58] <ramiel77> CaptainMorgan, sorry, someone told me to put the results of lspci into pastebin so i could get help with my wireless driver
[04:58] <mechdave> FastZ, Good idea
[04:58] <Will> mechdave, I'm going to try that again anyway
[04:58] <Michael_> Hey
[04:58] <mechdave> Will,  scratch that
[04:58] <FastZ> haha, ramiel77, ubottu is a bot....
[04:59] <Will> Mechdave, alright.
[04:59] <Michael_> how do i chmod 644 a folder and its contents and subdirectories
[04:59] <lginn02> Can i use desklets in ubuntu??
[04:59] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, chmod 644 /dir/ -R
[04:59] <Will> FastZ, explain what I'm trying to do again?
[05:00] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, you might need an asterisk in there... chmod 644 /dir/* -R
[05:00] <mechdave> Will, type sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:00] <Will> mechdave, alright
[05:00] <alraune> i fixed roshan's xorg.conf and told him to reboot, though I ensured he had a live cd, he's not coming back ,  as I log out now, there is a /etc/x11/xorg.conf backup, waited 20 min now n8
[05:00] <FastZ> Will, when you boot up into the Ubuntu LiveCD, go to System>Administration>Partition Editor
[05:00] <mechdave> FastZ, it is there is it?
[05:00] <ramiel77> FastZ, sorry, i didn't know that, this is the results of lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/28607/ and the ndiswrapper -l results bcmwl5 : driver installed
[05:00] <ramiel77> 	device (14E4:4328) present
[05:00] <Will> FastZ, I did what mechdave said
[05:01] <mechdave> Will, is it installed?
[05:01] <FastZ> mechdave, it should be already part of the OS
[05:01] <Will> mechdave, it was already installed apparently
[05:01] <Will> mechdave, where do I find it?
[05:01] <FastZ> ramiel77, have you rebooted the laptop?
[05:01] <Sylphid> ramiel77, whats in lshw -C network
[05:01] <cobber2005> obidiah:  Do you know how to fix the flickering?
[05:01] <mechdave> Will, ok in the terminal type sudo gparted
[05:01] <ramiel77> FastZ, I did reboot the laptop
[05:02] <Will> mechdave, it's open
[05:02] <mechdave> Ok what does it say?
[05:02] <Deus_Gear> could someone tell me how I can apply this patch: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=15627&action=view ?
[05:03] <ramiel77> sylphid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28608/
[05:03] <The_Warlock> did anybody work with cssh on cygwin?
[05:03] <forcearch> How do I install a 32-bit program(.deb) in 64-bit ubuntu?
[05:03] <Will> mechdave, there's 3 partitions
[05:03] <unop> !chroot | forcearch
[05:03] <Sylphid> ramiel77, try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:03] <forcearch> How do I install a 32-bit program(.deb) in 64-bit ubuntu? <--- using hardy btw.
[05:04] <mechdave> Will, is the swap contained in the extended partition?
[05:04] <ramiel77> sylphid, then what?
[05:04] <unop> forcearch, you can't do that normally, you have to setup a seperate compartment to install 32 bit applications in
[05:04] <Will> /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, and in /dev/sda2 there's /dev/sda5 mechdave.
[05:04] <forcearch> unop: couldn't you like, forcearch previously?
[05:04] <forcearch> seems like it doesn't work now..
[05:04] <lginn02> how do i install a desklet in ubuntu
[05:04] <mechdave> Will,  What are the labels?
[05:04] <Sylphid> ramiel77, see if lshw -C network changed
[05:04] <forcearch> or I might be doing it wrong
[05:04] <mechdave> Will, sorry mountpoints
[05:04] <unop> forcearch, what? i don't follow you
[05:04] <Deus_Gear> could someone tell me how I can apply this patch: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=15627&action=view ?
[05:04] <Will> mechdave, /dev/sda2 is extended
[05:05] <mechdave> Will, is there with the mount point /boot?
[05:05] <Will> doesn't say if it's a swap, how would I check this mechdave?
[05:05] <ramiel77> sylphid, it's capabilities no longer include bus_master
[05:05] <The_Warlock> I dont get the sub-menus in the cssh window when i compile it in cygwin
[05:05] <Will> uhhhhhh
[05:05] <mechdave> Will, it should say linux-swap in the filesystem column
[05:05] <Sylphid> ramiel77, the configuration line should have a section saying driver=ndiswrapper
[05:06] <Will> mechdave, it says this for /dev/sda5
[05:06] <FastZ> Will, mechdave, what are you guys trying to locate in swap?  try mounting /dev/sda1 and then checking out what all parts of the FS got installed.  if you can find the grub menu in /boot/grub/menu.lst then paste that in a pastebin
[05:06] <forcearch> unop sudo dpkg --forcearchitecture -i NAMEOFDEB.deb something like that. It worked in 7.10 I think
[05:06] <ramiel77> sylphid, there is no line saying driver=ndiswrapper
[05:06] <nickrud> The_Warlock maybe you should be asking about compiling under cywin in a cygwin channel
[05:06] <Will> FastZ, I'll try /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:07] <mechdave> FastZ, I am trying to get an idea what is contained in his extended and also if there is a /boot partition
[05:07] <unop> forcearch, don't ever do that unless you know exactly what the consequences of that action are ..
[05:07] <FastZ> Will, you'll have to find a way to mount /dev/sda1 first
[05:07] <forcearch> unop: it doesn't even work now...
[05:07] <Will> FastZ, how?
[05:07] <mechdave> Will, it won't work yet
[05:07] <FastZ> Will, not sure yet,
[05:07] <Smegzor> hmm..  when I try to resize the ntfs partition with qtparted, it appears to get part way through then I get an empty dialog and it stops.  Does this mean I can't resize it?
[05:07] <unop> forcearch, that will force the package to be installed .. but _does not_ guarantee it will work - infact i'd be surprised if the package worked at all
[05:07] <mechdave> will I think we shall try to mount /dev/sda1
[05:08] <Will> Ok
[05:08] <FastZ> mechdave, usually the only thing in the extended partition is the swap, nothing really of value should be in there...i dont think
[05:08] <nickrud> forcearch isn't it --force-architecture ?
[05:08] <mechdave> Will, sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[05:08] <forcearch> nickrud I'm not sure.
[05:08] <mechdave> FastZ, that is what I was thinking, I just wanted to make sure
[05:08] <nickrud> forcearch check man dpkg
[05:08] <thenewguy> hey guys i am having trouble with pidgin. It refuses to launch, i tried doing from the terminal but still nothing.
[05:08] <Will> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[05:08] <Will> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt
[05:09] <mechdave> Will, that is ok
[05:09] <unop> nickrud, he's trying to force a 32bit app to install on his 64bit system
[05:09] <thenewguy> also reinstalled it from synaptic
[05:09] <Sylphid> ramiel77, sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[05:09] <mechdave> Will, ok cd /mnt
[05:09] <nickrud> unop yeah, that's what force-architecture does
[05:09] <Will> mechdave, then?
[05:09] <mechdave> ls
[05:09] <unop> nickrud, not a wise thing to do - is what i am getting at
[05:09] <unop> :)
[05:09] <FastZ> Will, mechdave, I gotta split guys.  Sorry i cant stick around and help longer.  good luck Will
[05:10] <mechdave> Will, ls /boot/grub/
[05:10] <Will> thank you FastZ
[05:10] <mechdave> FastZ, no worries thanks for your input... appreciated
[05:10] <Deus_Gear> could someone tell me how I can apply this patch: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10395#c4
[05:10] <nickrud> unop if he has the ia32 libs installed ...
[05:10] <Will> mechdave: ls: cannot access /boot/grub/: No such file or directory
[05:10] <thenewguy> anyone?
[05:10] <Sylphid> ramiel77, then try installing the wireless drivers via System > Administration > Windows Wireless Drivers
[05:10] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone help me with some VMWare Server issues?
[05:10] <forcearch> nickrud which I do...
[05:10] <Drk_Guy> !VMWare
[05:11] <mechdave> Will, do a ls > ls.txt and paste the contents of ls.txt to pastebin
[05:11] <Drk_Guy> !VMWare Server
[05:11] <Blaqlight> how do I add a specific profile to a terminal command so that on launch it will load it. (Bash)
[05:11] <Will> mechdave, bash: ls.txt: Permission denied
[05:11] <nickrud> unop not something I'd do myself, or recommend but forcearch  says he's done it before, so no reason not to give the right syntax ;)
[05:12] <forcearch> nickrud for the record I installed crossover pro with it previously
[05:12] <mechdave> Will, try ls /mnt > ~/ls.txt
[05:12] <unop> nickrud, ok, i'll just wash my hands off of this affair :)
[05:12] <forcearch> and I really wish that avg/avast would release 64-bit versions of their .debs...
[05:12] <ramiel77> sylphid, i'll try
[05:12]  * nickrud crosses his fingers in the general direction of that abomination crossover  ;p
[05:12] <mechdave> then gedit ~/ls.txt
[05:12] <mechdave> Will, then gedit ~/ls.txt
[05:12] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy, what do you mean by "nothing" happens? the program simply never appears on your desktop, correct? run ps -aux or add | grep pidgin to see if you can locate its process
[05:13] <ice_cream> Blaqlight, ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc not enough?
[05:13] <mechdave> Will, then pastebin it
[05:13] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone help me with some VMWare Server issues?
[05:13] <sarah2> what do you do with pkg build files like http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bluediving/bluediving/PKGBUILD ?
[05:13] <forcearch> nickrud well what else am I supposed to do if I wish to run windows programs when wine doesn't work that well...
[05:13] <Will> mechdave, I'll put it in pastebin
[05:13] <amod> HI
[05:13] <mechdave> Will, righto
[05:13] <ramiel77> sylphid, it's says the driver is installed
[05:13] <nickrud> forcearch just a joke. I run stuff in virtualbox if I must
[05:13] <Will> mechdave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28614/
[05:14] <CaptainMorgan> forcearch, or construct your system as a dual booting system :)
[05:14] <Sylphid> ramiel77, you may want to remove it and reinstall ... then reboot
[05:14] <Bruners> forcearch: run programs that are just as good or even better written for linux
[05:14] <Blaqlight> ice_cream: yeah I had forgotten about those... old age you know, but then again I need to just use this particular profile for this one program. use default for all else.
[05:14] <mechdave> Will, cd /boot
[05:14] <mechdave> then ls > ~/ls.txt again
[05:14] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy, did you locate its process ?
[05:14] <thenewguy> CaptainMorgan: trying
[05:14] <forcearch> Bruners: oh okay. Now show me HL2 for linux.
[05:15] <ross> what are some of the free multiplayer games in ubuntu and where can i get them?
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy, use: ps -aux | grep pidgin
[05:15] <Will> mechdave, nothing happened
[05:15] <forcearch> my pc isn't very stable on windows for some strange reason, actually
[05:15] <wols> forcearch: valve is actually porting it :)
[05:15] <forcearch> wols: sweet
[05:15] <unop> which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  ls /boot | pastebinit
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy, after running that command line, what is reported back ?
[05:15] <mechdave> Will, it won't show any output but the file in ~/ls.txt will have changed
[05:15] <PorkSoda> Ahh, since when/what is there a lil ^ to the drawer gnome applet.. I'm pissed! :] ;/
[05:16] <lginn02> is there a program I need to get to install cursors and desklets???
[05:16] <Will> mechdave, alright so what do I do now
[05:16] <thenewguy> CaptainMorgan: yes it is running, but not appearing on desktop, i am also getting incoming messages
[05:16] <Bruners> ross: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Cube
[05:16] <nickrud> oooh unop such a nice little one liner
[05:16] <mechdave> Will, paste the contents of ~/ls.txt in pastebin again
[05:16] <^V^> Hi, I'm running into a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/220857 when trying to compile v4l. Does anyone know of a workaround? I've installed the lum package already...
[05:17] <Will> oh
[05:17] <Will> Hold on a second
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy, check the system tray then... it's there somewhere if you're getting messages *and* you can view it's process... I thought maybe it was locking up, but if you're receiving messages that's good
[05:17] <forcearch> at any rate, outs
[05:17] <mechdave> Will, I am trying to see what your /boot directory looks like
[05:17] <thenewguy> CaptainMorgan: i am so stupid, thanks allot
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy, usually, the system tray will have an icon that represents pidgin as it is hidden, it does not look like a pidgin tho... :)
[05:17] <boGGdy> I need some help partitioning
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> thenewguy,  np
[05:17] <mactimes> Buenas
[05:18] <ramiel77> sylphid, it didn't work, i still don't have ndiswrapper working
[05:18] <ice_cream> Blaqlight, also fourth paragraph in the man bash    INVOCATION section talks about bash loading ~/.profile and other files if  bash --login is specified   (e.g. only .bashrc is loaded if bash is started as is)
[05:18] <amod> HIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[05:19] <mechdave> boGGdy, what would you like help with?
[05:19] <Flannel> amod: #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting please.
[05:19] <ListenToMyMusic> when you apt-build world are already up to date packages built?
[05:19] <boGGdy> mechdave, I'm a begginer with ubuntu... can we talk in prv?
[05:19] <Deus_Gear> could someone tell me how I can apply this patch: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10395#c4
[05:19] <Will> mechdave, it didn't change
[05:20] <mechdave> boGGdy, prefer not to mate as then we cancel out everyone elses help as well
[05:20] <mechdave> Will, that is strange!!
[05:20] <mechdave> Will, try just ls
[05:20] <Will> mechdave, I think I messed something up
[05:20] <Will> can we go through the steps again
[05:21] <CaptainMorgan> Will you should have everything in your logs... no?
[05:21] <CaptainMorgan> err... that's a stupid statement.. you don't have a system...
[05:21] <Sylphid> ramiel77, is lshw -C network still showing no driver section?
[05:21] <boGGdy> mechdave, I have my HDD partitioned, I used XP. I want to format only C: and to create there the partition for ubuntu. how do I do that?
[05:21] <mechdave> Will, ok we will redirect the output stream to file with the    > operator
[05:21] <Will> mechdave, I'm gonna try it again
[05:22] <mechdave> Will, ls /boot > ~/ls.txt
[05:22] <mechdave> boGGdy, do you want to remove windows altogether?
[05:22] <boGGdy> mechdave, yes, but I want to be able to reinstall windows later
[05:23] <CaptainMorgan> Deus_Gear, can't be much help as I've only had to do a couple in the past... but look over man patch
[05:23] <amenado> boGGdy-> if your intention is to dual boot, always install windows first
[05:23] <mechdave> boGGdy, ok you can run windows and ubuntu as a dual boot, if you install windows you will lose the ability to boot ubuntu
[05:23] <amenado> boGGdy-> it will save you troubles later
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> Will, is it possible to install other OS's on your system? as in the past ?
[05:24] <Deus_Gear> i tried looking over it
[05:24] <Deus_Gear> i have no idea what im supposed to edit
[05:24] <Deus_Gear> hehe
[05:24] <Will> CaptainMorgan, for some reason it won't let me re-install Windows
[05:24] <mechdave> Will, We are trying to retrieve your old ubuntu install
[05:24] <nickrud> boGGdy or at least, leave the the first partition on the first disk empty, so you can install windows there later
[05:24] <boGGdy> amenado: ok, after I install win... what options should I choose in the format screen?
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> Will, wow....
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> Will, try a different hdd ?
[05:24] <Will> CaptainMorgan, want me to try to re-install it and tell you what the error is?
[05:25] <CaptainMorgan> Will, for windows? sure
[05:25] <Will> Hold on.
[05:25] <amenado> boGGdy-> just leave enuff space for another partition (at least 10gigs) for your linux if you install windows first
[05:25] <mechdave> Will, I had that problem once with my laptop
[05:26] <CaptainMorgan> mechdave, unop et al, if this problem persists over more than one OS, it's obviously hardware specific ....
[05:26] <boGGdy> amenado: I already have win installed, so I'll leave it there
[05:26] <boGGdy> amenado: do I have to edit hda1?
[05:26] <amenado> boGGdy-> most likely you have to resize your windows partition to leave room for linux..
[05:27] <mechdave> Will, it is something to do with partitions on the hard drive, I removed all partitions with fdisk (linux version) and XP reinstalled fine
[05:27] <amenado> boGGdy-> you only have one disk?
[05:27] <mechdave> Will, where were we?
[05:27] <boGGdy> amenado: yes, two partitions
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> mechdave, he's trying windows for the heck of it
[05:28] <mechdave> CaptainMorgan, righto
[05:28] <amenado> boGGdy-> you already have two partitions? what filesystem on each?
[05:28] <bastid_raZor> vmware would have been a better/easier route to go for testing purposes
[05:28] <boGGdy> amenado: ntfs, both
[05:29] <mechdave> boGGdy, make sure that you retain windows on the first partition on the first drive otherwise it will not boot!
[05:29] <bobertdos> amenado: I would guess it's a retail system that came with a recovery partition. Is that right, boGGdy?
[05:29] <amenado> boGGdy-> then perhaps migrate the data you have on the second partition so you can then reformat it for linux usage
[05:29] <Bruners> bastid_raZor: wont always give the same error codes when running in a virtual enviroment
[05:29] <amenado> bobertdos-> yeah i forgot about that hidden partition for recovery..
[05:30] <boGGdy> bobertdos: no, I have the first partition with the OS and the second is for... stuff. it's not a recovery partition
[05:30] <dbbolton> what's the ideal kernel for an athlon 64 x2 4000+ ?
[05:30] <mechdave> boGGdy, install ubuntu on the second partition
[05:31] <Flannel> dbbolton: The generic kernel.  Either 32 or 64 bit.
[05:31] <boGGdy> mechdave: do I hjave to edit the ntfs partition?
[05:31] <boGGdy> *have
[05:32] <dbbolton> Flannel, does the generic kernel support smp?
[05:32] <Flannel> dbbolton: Of course
[05:32] <bobertdos> boGGdy: Yes, but at least if you use that one, you won't risk XP itself.
[05:32] <dbbolton> hm, didn't know that
[05:32] <mechdave> boGGdy, I would reset the second partition as ext3
[05:32] <Flannel> dbbolton: every kernel since Dapper has been for both SMP/UP
[05:32] <boGGdy> bobertdos: it means I'll have to save my data from it
[05:33] <mechdave> boGGdy, yes
[05:33] <mattwj2002> hi everyone
[05:33] <dbbolton> Flannel, do they no longer develop a k8 kernel?
[05:33] <bobertdos> boGGdy: Yeah, unless you let the partitioner resize the free space, like we were saying before.
[05:33] <DeFirence> can anyone tell me why everyone hates iptables and routing so much? why is it impossible to get any help with it at all?
[05:33] <boGGdy> mechdave: lat me ask you this: what type of partition should I create to install ubuntu on?
[05:34] <Flannel> dbbolton: As of 6.10, there are no arch specific kernels, they're all in -generic (and -386 is available if -generic causes problems)
[05:34] <SegFaultAX> ext43
[05:34] <mechdave> boGGdy, I would use an ext3 partition
[05:34] <SegFaultAX> ext3 sorry
[05:34] <dbbolton> ok, thanks
[05:34] <Flannel> dbbolton: The only reason Hardy has packages (transitional packages) for the arch ones is because dapper upgrades to it.
[05:35] <boGGdy> OK, guys, I got it. I will rearange the space here and make another partition for ubuntu. thank you very much for your support
[05:35] <mechdave> boGGdy, no worries... glad to help
[05:35] <snadge> hey guys.. when i turn the brightness down on my laptop with a function key.. ubuntu supports that which is great.. but then after a while, the brightness automatically cranks up to full again?
[05:36] <snadge> im getting frustrated with having to turn the brightness back down repeatedly.. to try to conserve battery ;)
[05:36] <DeFirence> no one?
[05:36] <DeFirence> :/
[05:36] <Michael_> sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:37] <snadge> DeFirence: really theres not a hell of a lot to know about iptables.. if you're looking to do something very advanced with it, generally you'd already be very knowledgeable in that area
[05:37] <SegFaultAX> snadge: does your laptop have a light sensor that adjusts brightness based on ambient light
[05:37] <amenado> DeFirence-> umm because it is difficult to comprehend and a mistake can be costly ; for example you may have thought you plugged a hole but really did not..that kind of thing
[05:37] <Michael_> HELP ME
[05:37] <Michael_> please
[05:37] <Michael_> sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:37] <Michael_> it's not working right
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, what's the question?
[05:37] <snadge> SegFaultAX: my flatmate seems to think it does have a light sensor.. but i dont know how to configure/disable that?
[05:37] <Michael_> [Sat Jul 19 23:35:15 2008] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (8)Exec format error: exec of '/usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl' failed, referer: http://www.wrathpwn.co.nr/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:37] <Will> Okay CaptainMorgan, got the message.
[05:37] <Michael_> now apache says i should chmod it
[05:37] <SegFaultAX> snadge: what kind of computer do you have
[05:38] <snadge> its an MSI EX700 laptop
[05:38] <DeFirence> snadge, i have a simple script that ive been trying to get working for weeks with no success, im starting to think its ubuntu related and that i should try it on another distro :/
[05:38] <Michael_> and ive been  sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl all night trying to get  it to work
[05:38] <snadge> DeFirence: what are you trying to do with iptables.. port forwarding, filtering, masquerading?
[05:38] <Will> CaptainMorgan: Windows cannot be installed to this hard disk space. Windows must be installed to a partition formatted as NTFS.
[05:38] <amenado> DeFirence-> furthermore, it is a customization issues, not everyone have similar network layouts, and number of devices and such
[05:39] <jmoncayo> hey guys how can i make a graphic for the dump results of hcidump?
[05:39] <Michael_> anyone know about apache error 8?
[05:39] <SegFaultAX> snadge: have you looked in the bios for light sensor setttings?
[05:39] <DeFirence> snadge, im trying to forward port x to external ip x.x.x.x:x via interface x
[05:39] <amenado> jmoncayo-> you mean how to make a graph?
[05:39] <jmoncayo> amenado: yep
[05:39] <jmoncayo> =]
[05:39] <DeFirence> snadge, ive been trying to find out what is wrong with my script for weeks, have hardly even slept
[05:40] <DeFirence> its 6:45am again now
[05:40] <snadge> DeFirence: so from an internal network, you want your gateway/router to forward a connection on an internal port, to a host on an external interface?
[05:40] <DeFirence> and im still no further then i was 48 hours ago
[05:40] <CaptainMorgan> Will very strange.... what would I do? seeing as everything has failed thus far... burn a copy of the kill disk or a partitioner and wipe out the filesystems its reporting, what does it have on there now? ext3? wipe that out.... but very strange.. the Windows installer should be able to format that partition to one suitable for it... as should ubuntu
[05:40] <amenado> jmoncayo you have to put the data in some kind of table (massaging it)  and use graphing tools,
[05:40] <Will> CaptainMorgan, it wouldn't let me format it.
[05:41] <DeFirence> snadge, this is my script: http://defirence.pastebin.com/f3aff5364 - no one seems to be able to tell me the problem with it, but you should be able to see what it does pretty easily
[05:41] <wein> sdfsoi
[05:41] <amenado> DeFirence-> it would help if you have drawn the layout of your network to include all pertinent devices and services you'd like to serve or forward
[05:41] <Michael_> Anyone here good with apache? Please?
[05:41] <jmoncayo>  amenado: but is there any program already made for that? for hcidump in specific
[05:41] <CaptainMorgan> did you review the bios Will  ? could it be encrypted ?
[05:41] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, #apache
[05:41] <Michael_> apache is out of good ideas
[05:41] <Will> CaptainMorgan, how do I review the bios?
[05:42] <Michael_> and is very angry with me
[05:42] <amenado> jmoncayo-> i doubt it, but you can google for hcidump and graphing perhaps?
[05:42] <DeFirence> amenado, its alot simpler then that, i just want my script to work and as far as i (and everyone thats looked at it) can tell theres nothing wrong?
[05:42] <DeFirence> amenado, http://defirence.pastebin.com/f3aff5364
[05:42] <SegFaultAX> snadge > go to System > Power Management > On Battery Power > Disable checkboxes
[05:42] <DeFirence> take a look yourself :)
[05:42] <CaptainMorgan> hit f2 or f12 when your system turns on and runs post... enter bios and examine the hdd settings
[05:42] <amenado> DeFirence-> you may think it is that simple, but a good drawing speaks of thousand words..so can you draw one?
[05:42] <complexity> I can only print to a windows shared printer only if I send the print job a second time
[05:43] <complexity> any ideas?
[05:43] <Will> F12 goes into teh boot menu, so I'll try F2 CaptainMorgan.
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> Will have you tried a different hdd in this same system ?
[05:43] <snadge> DeFirence: yeah what the other guys said.. that looks like a relatively complex script, and without knowing how you're trying to use it.. and for what purpose, and the layout of your network.. its very difficult to determine the cause of your problem
[05:43] <Will> CaptainMorgan, no I only have one Hard Drive
[05:43] <snadge> SegFaultAX: checking that now
[05:43] <complexity> I can only print to a windows shared printer only if I send the print job a second time
[05:43] <SegFaultAX> snadge: cool, let me know if that helped
[05:43] <DeFirence> amenado, im not so good with drawings, although ive made network diagrams before, my script doesnt revolve around the network, just one ppp connection
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> Will,  that should be another route to try when you get a chance to.... seeing as you're running into brick walls
[05:44] <complexity> any ideas?
[05:44] <amenado> DeFirence-> without a picture and lots of explanation, its hard to tell from what you pasted
[05:44] <Will> CaptainMorgan, I'll consider it instead of getting more RAM.
[05:44] <Will> be right back.
[05:44] <complexity> I can only print to a windows shared printer only if I send the print job a second time
[05:44] <complexity> any ideas?
[05:45] <Smegzor> I'm running the amd64 version of Ubuntu and I need the 32bit libraries installed.  Do I apt-get them and if so, what am I apt-getting ?
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, I'm still confused over your problem, be specific while being clear and coherent please
[05:45] <DeFirence> amenado & snadge : [LocalHost] Port 10001 -> <IP_ADDRESS>:2222 via ppp1
[05:45] <DeFirence> its that simple really
[05:45] <amenado> DeFirence-> it doesnt have to be an artist rendering, boxes, labels, cables, ip addresses and explanations to draw a layout is adequate
[05:45] <complexity> I can only print to a windows shared printer only if I send the print job a second time
[05:45] <complexity> any ideas?
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, on the surface it appears like a permissions problem.. but apache is funny, you may not be allowed to view anything set by the apache www-default user
[05:45] <DeFirence> amenado, my script needs no ips or cables, its just 1 port and 1 ppp connection
[05:45] <DeFirence> read above ^^
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> which you would need to change to yourself in apache.conf, httpd.conf, et al
[05:45] <complexity> you r da suck
[05:46] <snadge> SegFaultAX: it appears ubuntu is faulty.. when i disable the screen dimming thing, it stays at the brightness i set it.. the problem is when you have your brightness already set to minimum.. then it automatically makes it bright when you start using your laptop again
[05:46] <CaptainMorgan> !patient | complexity
[05:46] <amenado> DeFirence-> you are not getting the gist, without a picture or layout, there are so  many question back and forth..a picture is worht a thousand words..get it?
[05:46] <CaptainMorgan> !patience | complexity
[05:47] <DeFirence> amenado, ok, let me make a picture...
[05:47] <snadge> SegFaultAX: but thankyou, disabling the automatic dimming has solved my problem for now
[05:47] <cobber2005> heeeelp, after I suspend and wake back up in Hardy, the screen flickers!
[05:47] <complexity> sorry, being impatient, can not find an answer anywhere!!!! <-- google master
[05:48] <bsusa> hello all
[05:48] <Michael_> captainmorgan: what should the permissions be set to (PS im setting them with the GUI not command prompt)
[05:48] <unop> Michael_, sudo chmod +x /path/to/file
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> Michael_, don't pm without asking permission first, thank you
[05:48] <unop> Michael_, also make sure that the first line of the file has this.  #!/usr/bin/perl
[05:49] <unop> Michael_, if it does, try changing it to  #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[05:49] <Michael_> what?
[05:49] <Michael_> im confused
[05:49] <unop> first line of the file ...
[05:49] <bobertdos> Hello, bsusa, how may we help you?
[05:49] <bsusa> could someone please help me with a little issue. When i play a video on my pc it only displays the video in full screen mode and when im in window mode i dont see any video just a black screen with sound. Any suggestiond please?
[05:50] <CaptainMorgan> unop he's been playing with chmods for awhile... can you express to him that apache uses a www-default user in its config that needs to be looked at as no matter what the chmod settings are, he'll be blocked out due to this apache config setting
[05:50] <Gnea> bsusa: what program is it using to play?
[05:50] <CaptainMorgan> which I previously tried explaining
[05:50] <bsusa> VLC
[05:50] <bobertdos> bsusa: and what format are you watching?
[05:50] <bsusa> avi
[05:50] <bsusa> flv seems to work
[05:50] <Gnea> bsusa: does it automagically drop into fullscreen mode when it first starts?
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> not all the time, but it posed a problem for a number of systems I looked into
[05:51] <bsusa> no in window mode.
[05:51] <unop> CaptainMorgan, ownership of scripts in cgi-bin shouldn't matter rather, 755 in his case, doesn't ensure that www-data can execute the script - i beleive root owns it at the moment, so only root can execute the script
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> goodnight and/or goodday everyone, Will best of luck mate I'll be back later to check up on things
[05:52] <CaptainMorgan> doh... www-data, my bad.. time for a needed rest :)
[05:52] <Gnea> bsusa: is overlay turned on?
[05:53] <unop> Michael_,  how's it going?
[05:53] <bsusa> u mean in the video driver
[05:53] <Gnea> settings->preferences
[05:53] <Michael_> Horrible!
[05:54] <unop> Michael_, try this, if you have't already.     sudo chmod +x /path/to/file
[05:54] <bsusa> settings->Preferences where bouts i have system-)preferences
[05:54] <Gnea> it's a check option, can't miss it, should be right there
[05:55] <Gnea> on video
[05:55] <kmyst> anybody got a few minutes for some advice on some backup issue type questions?
[05:55] <unop> Michael_, i.e.     sudo chmod +x /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:55] <Michael_> i know
[05:55] <unop> !anyone
[05:55] <Deus_Gear> ccould someone tell me how to install the latest kernel
[05:55] <Gnea> bsusa: also see if you have any filters enabled
[05:55] <bsusa> k 1 sec
[05:56] <unop> Deus_Gear, sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install linux-image
[05:56] <bsusa> sry i was looking in the wrong place ill check it out now 1 sec
[05:56] <Deus_Gear> ty
[05:56] <kmyst> i.e. backup the entire drive but it's encrypted
[05:56] <Gnea> bsusa: np
[05:56] <Michael_> its giving me no response
[05:56] <Michael_> i enter the sudo password, then nothing
[05:56] <unop> kmyst, do you want the backups encrypted too?
[05:56] <jerry_> hey what up
[05:57] <unop> Michael_, it shouldn't return anything meaning the command has completed successfully
[05:57] <kmyst> unop: most definitely...what'd be the point backing up data and leaving it unencrypted? :)
[05:57] <Deus_Gear> unop: it says "the update command takesno arguments"
[05:57] <Michael_> how long does it take?
[05:57] <Michael_> sudo chmod +x /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:57] <Michael_> thats what i put
[05:57] <unop> Deus_Gear, type the command out properly
[05:57] <unop> Deus_Gear, or better, copy and paste it in the terminal
[05:57] <Michael_> it goes back to michael@ubuntu
[05:58] <bobertdos> Michael_: that means it's done
[05:58] <unop> Michael_, right, that means it has completed fine
[05:58] <Michael_> ok
[05:58] <Michael_> so...
[05:58] <unop> Michael_, now, what does this return?  ls -ld /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:58] <Michael_> whats the diagnosis?
[05:58] <kmyst> unop: somehow i figure doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=drive.img type of command won't get me what i want since the drive is encrypted
[05:58] <Michael_> -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 23 2008-07-19 22:39 /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[05:59] <kmyst> granted i could craft a find | cpio command but that isn't going to be encrypted
[05:59] <unop> kmyst, well, it would work -- but the resulting file wouldn't be encrypted (i should think so)
[05:59] <Deus_Gear> k unop
[06:00] <bsusa> k same thing i took off the overlay still nothing
[06:00] <kmyst> unop: ya...thus my "problem"
[06:00] <bsusa> it does the same thing in all the other players
[06:00] <Michael_> You see, i'm trying to get perl to work, so I can build the first info bot "fueled by 4chan".
[06:00] <kmyst> and simple backup is well...simple
[06:01] <unop> kmyst, you could do something like .  dd id=/dev/sda | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -salt -in - -out encrypted.enc
[06:01] <jerry__> mbeal
[06:01] <unop> Michael_, what happens when you navigate to  http://localhost/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[06:02] <Michael_> Internal Server Error
[06:02] <Michael_> [Sun Jul 20 00:01:34 2008] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (8)Exec format error: exec of '/usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/hello.pl' failed
[06:02] <bullgard4> Why do the outputs of /proc/net/route and the route command differ?
[06:02] <unop> Michael_, pastebin the contents of hello.pl
[06:02] <kmyst> unop: that could work...the thought i was wondering is that if i boot off a live cd and dd the drive in that manner would the resulting image be useful since the drive wasn't opened with luks?
[06:02] <Michael_> its not that big
[06:02] <Michael_> print "Hello World\n";
[06:03] <DeFirence> amenado, ok i found some crappy program but i put something together...
[06:03] <kmyst> or would i be backing up garbled random data? :)
[06:03] <unop> Michael_, you are missing the shebang line .. the very first line must say this.   #!/usr/bin/perl
[06:03] <Michael_> SHEBANG?
[06:03] <Michael_> oh
[06:03] <tritium> !enter | Michael_ (for the umpteenth time)
[06:04] <unop> kmyst, well, im not sure, i would presume that it wouldn't make sense
[06:05] <ice_cream> lol
[06:05] <Pox> g++_..deb is telling me that g++ is an unsatisfied dep O_O
[06:05] <administrator_> wireless problems (still...)
[06:05] <administrator_> anyone can help?
[06:05] <amenado> DeFirence-> okay where is the paste link?
[06:05] <administrator_> amenado, can u help me with some simple wireless stuff?
[06:05] <Michael_> [Sun Jul 20 00:05:11 2008] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] malformed header from script. Bad header=Hello World: hello.pl, referer: http://www.wrathpwn.co.nr/cgi-bin/hello.pl
[06:06] <thethirdmoose> Hello, I have a problem with sound. When I run alsaplayer with the -d plug:dmix command, it plays my file, otherwise, it doesn't. Can someone help me?
[06:06] <kmyst> unop: yeah i'm not sure either...i was leaning towards opening the drive with luks and thus gaining access then backing up the data...a 1:1 copy a la cpio would be nice since a ton of data is video which doesn't lend well to compression unlike the rest of the filesystem
[06:06] <amenado> administrator_-> ill try..what have you done so far?
[06:06] <unop> Michael_, make this the second line.    print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
[06:06] <DeFirence> amenado, http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8438/diagramab3.jpg
[06:07] <Michael_> IT WORKS
[06:07] <Michael_> PRAISE JESUS
[06:07] <DeFirence> amenado, the app aligned everything to a big grid so it looks horrible but hopefully you get the picture?
[06:07] <rraj-be> is there any application so i can ctreate video tutorila in my system...that is to record my screen
[06:07] <rraj-be> is there any application so i can ctreate video tutorila in my system...that is to record my screen
[06:07] <Michael_> so...I just need to include those two lines in every premade script i intend to run?
[06:07] <rraj-be> is there any application so i can ctreate video tutorila in my system...that is to record my screen
[06:07] <administrator_> amenado, i have a dell inspiron 1501, installed ubuntu 8.04, followed the guide on getting the wireless working using the ndiswrapper, wireless was all working, then i enabled the Ati proprietary driver and did a few updates (kernel based, just standard ubuntu apt-get stuff) and then restarted, now wireless doesnt work
[06:07] <tritium> rraj-be: quit repeating.
[06:07] <unop> kmyst, well, if you can mount your luks volume like that, then sure .. anything works
[06:07] <thethirdmoose> Hello, I have a problem with sound. When I run alsaplayer with the -d plug:dmix command, it plays my file, otherwise, it doesn't. Can someone help me?
[06:08] <kmyst> unop: a tarball that got encrypted would be ideal but a ton of wasted processing cycles would take place trying to compress multimedia files (which is ~90% of the drive)
[06:08] <amenado> DeFirence-> ill give it a shot..anyhow how did you establish the ppp link? using a dialup modem?
[06:08] <administrator_> amenado, redid (well did over) the ndiswrapper stuff to see if that would change anything, nothing happened... wireless still not working...
[06:08] <rraj-be> sorry i thought i was not posted
[06:08] <DeFirence> snadge, you can also take a look at the image if you like...
[06:08] <unop> !screencast | rraj-be
[06:08] <DeFirence> amenado, pppoe
[06:08] <tritium> rraj-be: it was posted three times
[06:08] <rraj-be> now only i can see posts comming on screen extremly sorry
[06:08] <administrator_> amenado, can u help
[06:08] <administrator_> ?
[06:08] <rraj-be> extremly sorry
[06:09] <DeFirence> amenado, the script is part of ip-up so it runs when the connection is made and its passed the variables
[06:09] <tritium> No problem, rraj-be.
[06:09] <amenado> administrator_-> maybe..let me help out DeFirence and you next okay?
[06:09] <Deus_Gear> hey is it weird
[06:09] <rraj-be> my net is very slow and i got just updated
[06:09] <unop> kmyst, you don't need to compress the tarball
[06:09] <Deus_Gear> if compiz fusion works but it says direct rendering: no
[06:09] <administrator_> amenado, k thankx
[06:09] <unop> kmyst, or rather, you don't have to..
[06:09] <rraj-be> any solution
[06:09] <unop> !screencast | rraj-be
[06:09] <unop> rraj-be, pay attention
[06:09] <kmyst> unop: this is true...old sysadmin habit :)
[06:09] <amenado> DeFirence-> how was the ppp established? you have a serial port with a modem? how?
[06:10] <administrator_> amenado, ive just spent like 4 hours trying to get this running since doing the update and im just starting to get a bit annoyed lol
[06:10] <rraj-be> k
 amenado, pppoe
[06:10] <rraj-be> thanks a lot..i will have a look and i will come back
[06:10] <Powerman> Hello all, first time in Ubuntu IRC. What is the best IRC program for Linux?
[06:10] <rraj-be> :)
[06:10] <kmyst> Powerman: irssi rules
[06:10] <unop> !best | Powerman
[06:11] <DeFirence> amenado, i just used pon ppp-connection-name and poff to start and stop the connections
[06:11] <unop> Powerman, i suggest you start off with xchat - it's fairly simple
[06:11] <amenado> DeFirence-> as you can see, there are several questions...  how was the ethernet established?  what do you have between you and the ISP?
[06:11] <Powerman> <-- What I have now.
[06:11] <bastid_raZor> Powerman; i like xchat, that is my opinion.
[06:11] <bullgard4> Why do the outputs of /proc/net/route and the route command differ?
[06:12] <Powerman> Okay, going to play around with X Chat a bit then. Be back later. :)
[06:12] <DeFirence> amenado, the ethernet is connected to the lan connection at my house and i have a router thats on the network that handles all pppoe connections...
[06:12] <DeFirence> amenado, the routing is not affected by that at all though
[06:12] <tritium> That was quick, Powerman.
[06:13] <unop> bullgard4, /proc/net/route represents addresses in hex while route does in decimal - other than that, it has some extra info
[06:13] <amenado> DeFirence-> im going to request a better drawing to depict what you got, devices and all between the hosts..otherwise there are far too many question i have that i cant help administrator in quick time
[06:13] <tritium> beth1234123: please watch the nick spam
[06:14] <beth1234123> can anyone tell me how to get gksudo to not ask for a password
[06:14] <amenado> DeFirence-> i dont even know if that server 41.240.x.x is in your lan or across the ISP..
[06:14] <beth1234123> tritium, sorry I was trying to find one that wasnt in use
[06:14] <administrator_> amenado, u understand my situation? any questions?
[06:14] <thethirdmoose> beth1234123, gksudo has to ask for a password
[06:14] <DeFirence> amenado, do you still not understand what im trying to do, you should see from the drawing i made that my equipment is irrelevant?
[06:15] <amenado> DeFirence-> no, i dont understand sorry... you have to draw a better layout
[06:15] <beth1234123> thethirdmoose, no way to change it like you can with sudoers
[06:15] <DeFirence> amenado, the drawing says external ( ie, a external ip on the internet) why else would it go through the ppp connection
[06:15] <thethirdmoose> beth1234123, sorry, I don't know
[06:15] <beth1234123> thethirdmoose, with sudo
[06:15] <DeFirence> sigh, ok seems like you cant help me then amenado
[06:16] <amenado> DeFirence-> thats why i told you, your drawing does not depict what devices are in between..you cant even tell me how you are connecting to your ISP
[06:16] <bastid_raZor> beth1234123; type sudo visudo then at the bottom add this : yourUsername ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/gksudo
[06:16] <DeFirence> amenado, there is nothing that i didnt draw that has any relevance to the script or what i am trying to do.
[06:16] <amenado> DeFirence-> okay, i cant help you if you dont provide good info
[06:16] <beth1234123> bastid_raZor, perfect... didn't think of that, thanks
[06:16] <DeFirence> amenado, THERE IS NOTHING I DIDNT PROVIDE?!?
[06:16] <bastid_raZor> beth1234123; you are familiar with vim right?
[06:17] <tritium> DeFirence: calm down
[06:17] <beth1234123> yes
[06:17] <amenado> DeFirence-> you seemed to be pre-disposed that those info am seeking are irrelevant..
[06:17] <bullgard4> unop: Your answer cannot be the whole truth: The 'route' output has a 'Router' column, /proc/net/route does not.
[06:17] <DeFirence> amenado, the devices have no impact on this at all?
[06:17] <bastid_raZor> beth1234123; okay, that should do it :)
[06:17] <amenado> DeFirence-> how do you know the devices in-between has not impact?
[06:17] <DeFirence> tritium, if you're following this discussion you would see why i am a little on edge...
[06:17] <DeFirence> amenado, because im not an idiot
[06:17] <beth1234123> but if i remember correctly it is actually nano in vi mode
[06:18] <beth1234123> same thing i guess
[06:18] <amenado> DeFirence-> i would not call you as such, am just trying to get a clearer picture
[06:18] <tritium> DeFirence: that's no excuse.  Remain calm, and stay on topic, and don't use all-caps.
[06:18] <bastid_raZor> beth1234123; i prefer vim and have vim set as my editor.
[06:18] <DeFirence> amenado, the script needs to route port x to ip z via ppp1 - thats got nothing to do with equipment
[06:18] <thethirdmoose> Can someone help me set up alsa with wine?
[06:18] <Deus_Gear> w00t
[06:18] <unop> bullgard4, the terms router and gateway can be used interchangeably - as routers are gateways to other subnets
[06:18] <Deus_Gear> i got wireless, i got 3d rendering and direct rendering working
[06:18] <Deus_Gear> im so happy
[06:18] <amenado> DeFirence-> okay i give up, you are unwilling to provide the info i seek
[06:19] <Deus_Gear> thanks unop
[06:19] <DeFirence> amenado, uhm, you're asking me for off topic info
[06:19] <unop> Deus_Gear, yw
[06:19] <DeFirence> amenado, i may as well give you my address, phone number etc too, itll be just as, if not more helpfull
[06:19] <DeFirence> helpful*
[06:19] <tritium> DeFirence: you're highly offtopic.  Please stop.
[06:19] <amenado> DeFirence-> no it is not, what if the devices in between also provides routing and forwarding?
[06:20] <Deus_Gear> i cant believe all my headaches were just a kernel recompile away
[06:20] <DeFirence> tritium, i am not.
[06:20] <DeFirence> amenado, ok, what if i say pppX is a direct connection to the internet?
[06:20] <bullgard4> unop: Ah, this is a very goog explanation. Thank you very much.
[06:20] <DeFirence> since it is...
[06:20] <thethirdmoose> Can someone please help me with alsa and wine?
[06:21] <DeFirence> amenado, do you know what a pppoe connection is?
[06:21] <jerry__> fffffffff
[06:21] <amenado> DeFirence-> how did that ip address of <IP_ADDRESS> got assigned to your host?
[06:21] <unop> jerry__, no spam, thanks
[06:21] <DeFirence> amenado, that is eth0's ip
[06:22] <DeFirence> the ppp connection's ip is dynamic, as you can see in my script it is $IP
[06:22] <DeFirence> @ amenado
[06:22] <jerry__> just add justing stuff
[06:22] <amenado> DeFirence-> and your gateway ip address is?
[06:23] <anolis_> how do i connect to a wep encrypted access point?
[06:23] <DeFirence> amenado, GW="$5"
[06:23] <Agent_bob> i think i need madwifi for an atheros card ?    where does one find madwifi for dapper ?
[06:23] <DeFirence> $GW is the ppp connection's gateway ip
[06:23] <tritium> Agent_bob: they're provided automatically in the restricted drivers
[06:24] <kmyst> unop: looks like i came up with a workable solution: duplicity will allow me to hobble together enough of what i need to accomplish
[06:24] <Agent_bob> tritium so i have to use the i386 kernel to get madwifi to work  and have to use i686 kernel to get ati vidio to work ???
[06:24] <administrator_> anyone else can help with wireless?
[06:25] <anolis_> whenever i try to connect to wep, i input the wep key and it looks like its doing something but then eventually it asks me for the key again, i know i have the right key, cause it works on windows
[06:25] <unop> kmyst, is that duplicity - a name of an app or do you mean a mirrored volume?
[06:25] <DeFirence> amenado, are you starting to understand?
[06:25] <kmyst> unop: name of an app
[06:25] <administrator_> anolis_, are u sure ur not using WPA or WPA2 sec?
[06:25] <anolis_> it is a 10 digit hex key, and i select 64/128bit hex from the drop down list
[06:25] <unop> kmyst, ahh, cool
[06:25] <anolis_> absolutely sure administrator_
[06:25] <administrator_> anolis_, type iwlist scanning in a term and make sure....
[06:25] <amenado> DeFirence-> i will give up..i have far too many questions to ask, guessing what gw, ip, if and such ...
[06:26] <anolis_> i have a 2wire sw1000 home gateway
[06:26] <administrator_> amenado, can u help me with my wireless now?
[06:26] <DeFirence> amenado, sorry for not wanting to give you useless info, but ive gone through my set up with about 50 people over the last 2 weeks trying to get this working and i do not wish to waste any more of your time or mine
[06:26] <kmyst> unop: straight up command line driven, highly configurable...roll your own type of solution :)
[06:26] <anolis_> it isn't capable of anything but wep
[06:26] <Agent_bob> tritium ?
[06:26] <LumpyCam> anolis_: have you tried entering the key in hex and or plaintext
[06:26] <kdb424> Can someone help me with a boot issue of ubuntu on a Macbook Pro?
[06:26] <amenado> DeFirence-> okay, i wish you luck to get help with minimal info
[06:26] <DeFirence> amenado, again you want to ask questions that are clearly in the pastebin?
[06:26] <unop> kmyst, will keep that at the back of my brain if i ever find out rsync to be incapable :)
[06:26] <DeFirence> amenado, omg
[06:27] <DeFirence> amenado, there is nothing i havnt given you
[06:27] <anolis_> LumpyCam, i selected hex from the drop down list, i have also done it manually in the terminal
[06:27] <DeFirence> amenado, have you ever looked at the script?
[06:27] <administrator_> amenado, can u help me now then?
[06:27] <kdb424> Has anyone else installed ubuntu on a mac?
[06:27] <anolis_> LumpyCam, "iwconfig wlan0 key XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"
[06:27] <amenado> DeFirence-> if i may suggest, provide info on your paste such as external ip towards isp is such..
[06:28] <DeFirence> amenado, its a 8 line script...
[06:28] <kmyst> unop: ya i'd rsync but it wouldn't work well for my scenario
[06:28] <anolis_> kdb424, yes it has been done
[06:28] <Agent_bob> anyone know a source of "madwifi" for dapper i686 kernel ?
[06:28] <LumpyCam> anolis_: try prepending the hex key with 0x if you havent yet.
[06:28] <amenado> DeFirence-> as you have stated many had tried to assist you and somehow cannot comprehend what you got..then im falling in the same trap
[06:29] <DeFirence> amenado, no, you are the first one not to understand what im doing
[06:29] <anolis_> hmm lemme try.
[06:29] <DeFirence> amenado, the rest simply cant find the problem
[06:29] <DeFirence> amenado, i dont understand what you dont understand :(
[06:30] <kdb424> anolis_ : I PM'd you
[06:30] <LumpyCam> anolis_: how about essid? the key should be ok.
[06:30] <administrator_> amenado, can u help?
[06:30] <mbrigdan> is there any way I can disconnect a host that I have found on my network?
[06:31] <anolis_> LumpyCam, you can vnc into my box if you want, i can show you whats going down
[06:31] <amenado> administrator ill try..you have already loaded ndiswrapper? what happened after
[06:31] <kdb424> Can anyone help me with installing Ubuntu on a mac? Please PM me
[06:31] <Flannel> kdb424: What arch?
[06:31] <anolis_> LumpyCam, yes essid is good to.
[06:31] <amenado> administrator_-> does it establish an association to your AP ?
[06:31] <Flannel> !dualboot | kdb424
[06:31] <LumpyCam> anolis_: I hate ubuntu+wifi. i'm on debian
[06:32] <administrator_> amenado, ok, it loads up, i can use iwlist scanning, but when i try and configure a wireless network with all the correct settings, it sits there attempting to connect for about 90 seconds and then just says disconnected
[06:32] <asmo[B]> kdb424: laptop?
[06:32] <administrator_> amenado, nope it doesnt associate wif the AP
[06:32] <asmo[B]> kdb424: do you have OS X installed?
[06:32] <bullgard4> What does the entry 'auto lo' in /etc/network/interfaces mean?
[06:32] <anolis_> LumpyCam, i might switch to slackware. but iunno
[06:32] <kdb424> Yea I have OSX
[06:32] <anolis_> LumpyCam, it would be great if i could get this working so i don't have to use vmware to connect
[06:32] <asmo[B]> kdb424: have you tried using bootcamp?
[06:32] <kdb424> I followed the guide on the forums, but I can't get it to boot from reefit
[06:32] <kdb424> I am using bootcamp
[06:32] <amenado> administrator_-> when you do your iwlist wlan0 scan  you see your own AP? and you are doing this on the clear right? not with WPA or WPA2 or wep ?
[06:33] <Agent_bob> ah sourceforge.net has madwifi   i'll try that.
[06:33] <LumpyCam> bullgard4: it brings up loopback address, localhost
[06:33] <asmo[B]> kdb424: core2duo?
[06:33] <anolis_> good idea Agent_bob
[06:33] <kdb424> asmo[B] : yes
[06:33] <administrator_> amenado, i can see my AP, i tried it with all the correct settings, then ive tried with WPA2 and WEP aswell, still nothing
[06:33] <thethirdmoose> I'm having really weird audio problems.
[06:33] <thethirdmoose> Why does audio only work in a few apps, like aplayer?
[06:34] <thethirdmoose> *alsaplayer
[06:34] <administrator_> amenado, and yea this is my AP, im not smart enuff to try and hack someone elses when i cant even connect to my own... lol
[06:34] <amenado> administrator, which chip  your wifi uses again?
[06:34] <paul_5666> hey, does anyone know something to convert a divx file to DVD format so i can burn?
[06:34] <asmo[B]> kdb424: what errors?
[06:34] <administrator_> amenado, the dell 1501, its a Broadcom one, the one everyone seems to have trouble with B43 i think
[06:34] <anolis_> paul_5666, "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg; man ffmpeg"
[06:34] <kdb424> asmo[B] : No error. I just can't boot from reefit. It never gets past the penguin
[06:35] <paul_5666> anolis_: rgr
[06:35] <bullgard4> LumpyCam: What do you mean by 'to bring up'?
[06:35] <amenado> administrator ahh the infamouse bc43xx? then we are both out of luck, i've tried that many times and just couldnot get it to work
[06:35] <amenado> bcm43xx*
[06:35] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; tovid is a possibly solution
[06:35] <Agent_bob> oh one other thing.   will i have to have the kernel source to compile "madwifi"  ?
[06:35] <anolis_> amenado, bcm43xx is deprecated for the most part, b43 and b43legacy are much better
[06:36] <administrator_> amenado, lol no problems then, ubuntu just seems to love it so lol
[06:36] <psynophile> hello, i have a dual monitor setup, nvidia 7600 card running the nvidia drivers, is there a way to have one monitor standard and have the other monitor be rotated 90 degrees?
[06:36] <ubuntu> i'm in the middle of an ubuntu installation right now, it got to about 90% and then it said "failed to install grub on hd0." the first two partitions on this disk are NTFS with windows on them. if i skip installing grub, my old bootloader should still be there and i can still get into windows and add ubuntu to the bootloader later, right?
[06:36] <anolis_> hmmm wonder if i could use another wireless card, maybe it would connect
[06:36] <LumpyCam> bullgard4: it's part of the init scripts that intialize the loopback address ans inet
[06:37] <administrator_> amenado, one other easy problem to do with grub
[06:37] <amenado> administrator_-> you'd see a lot of postings on that, broadcom chips is difficult to get working on ubuntu
[06:37] <spoo1> can someone tell me what I would have to write in xorg.conf to add the resolution 1366x768 for an LCD tv as my only visual output?
[06:37] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: does it have a gui?
[06:37] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; yes
[06:37] <administrator_> amenado, when it updated the kernel grub seemed to become hostile, it hasnt got my windows install in menu.lst.. how do i find it?
[06:37] <spoo1> ????
[06:37] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: thanks
[06:38] <bastid_raZor> psynophile; you should be able to do that in nvidia-settings
[06:38] <mbrigdan> is there any way I can knock a host of my network?
[06:38] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; wireless network?
[06:38] <amenado> administrator_-> you can type fdisk -l  and find out which one is ntfs where I would assume is the windows, then modify your menu.lst to have the windows entry entered
[06:38] <psynophile> bastid_raZor: thank you for taking the time to answer my question, but i've tried nvida-settings, and maybe there's something i'm doing wrong, but when i hit the option it rotates both monitors, not just one
[06:39] <administrator_> amenado, thanx heaps
[06:39] <spoo1> can someone tell me what I would have to write in xorg.conf to add the resolution 1366x768 for an LCD tv as my only visual output?
[06:39] <amenado> administrator_-> no sweat..
[06:39] <DeFirence> quick question: how can i install ubuntu core only from the ubuntu desktop cd?
[06:39] <Agent_bob> administrator_ sudo fdisk -l    will list all partitions it can find.
[06:39] <administrator_> amenado, keep up the good work :)
[06:39] <Flannel> DeFirence: You can't.  You need the Alternate CD
[06:39] <DeFirence> Flannel, meh.. that kinda sucks
[06:39] <mbrigdan> bastid_raZor: well, I think they are connecting through wireless but i'm not sure, I just found a host I don't seem to know, so i'm want to kick it off and see if something I own goes down
[06:39] <spoo1> ANYONE?
[06:40] <amenado> administrator when you get better, you can come back and assist too :P
[06:40] <DeFirence> Flannel, is there any net inst or console only iso i can download thats small?
[06:40] <Flannel> !nickspam > eie
[06:40] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: where do i acess tovid?
[06:40] <anolis> apparently its just the card, cause i just tried another wifi card and it worked
[06:40] <Flannel> DeFirence: Grab the minimal ISO, it's 8MB.  You'll still have to download packages though.
[06:40] <Flannel> !minimal | DeFirence
[06:40] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: this would lockout a host using iptables: /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --syn -s X.X.X.X/32 -j DROP
[06:40] <kdb424> asmo[B] : Any ideas?
[06:40] <kEeBoD> :-<
[06:41] <DeFirence> 8mb wow
[06:41] <mbrigdan> bastid_raZor: I was going to try matching their MAC address, but that might just screwup my router
[06:41] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; you could start using MAC filtering which would allow only the mac addess' you add to your router to connect. i do the same thing
[06:41] <DeFirence> ty Flannel <3
[06:41] <Agent_bob> DeFirence you could install then remove all non-essential packages and add back anything you want.
[06:41] <legend2440> spoo1:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:41] <DeFirence> Agent_bob, kinda a mission :P
[06:41] <kEeBoD> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[06:41] <HappyHater> spoo1, try gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[06:41] <kEeBoD> what does that mean :-s
[06:41] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: How does that work? Wouldn't I have to lock out a host using my router?
[06:41] <DeFirence> amenado, just btw: connection to port 10001 on <IP_ADDRESS> (eth0), packets get marked and then forwarded to <IP_ADDRESS>:6667 through the ppp connection that the marked packets are routed through
[06:41] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; access? you mean after you've installed it?
[06:42] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: yes
[06:42] <DeFirence> amenado, ignore the ip...
[06:42] <spoo1> legend2440, thank you again.... for some reason it will not hold....
[06:42] <kEeBoD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28621/
[06:42] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: that would be the best way.
[06:42] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; it is listed under applicatiion>sound&video for me
[06:42] <Agent_bob> DeFirence just said it could be done with your disk   that's all
[06:42] <mbrigdan> bastid_raZor: MAC filtering isn't really effective, especially since I think this guy might know something, as my network is WPA protected
[06:43] <kEeBoD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[06:43] <DeFirence> Agent_bob, hehe, thnx though :)
[06:43] <kEeBoD> thats the method i followed
[06:43] <mbrigdan> !iptables
[06:43] <DeFirence> 9mb iso is 9mb :D
[06:43] <kEeBoD> everything went on in the way it shud have :(
[06:43] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: nope =(
[06:43] <administrator_> amenado, just a theory question, my grub menu.lst has entries for all diff ubuntu kernels... like 2.6.24-16, 18, 19
[06:44] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: I don't want to lock him off my computer, I want to kick him off my network, preferably in a violent, system crashing way.
[06:44] <administrator_> amenado, can i get rid of all the ones that arent 19
[06:44] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: any other solutions?
[06:44] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: i woudl prefer a GUI
[06:44] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; you can add it to the menus then.. let me find the path
[06:44] <Agent_bob> "<DeFirence> 9mb iso is 9mb :D" plus the 400m of packages you'll probably dl
[06:44] <bullgard4> LumpyCam: Thank you for explaining.
[06:44] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: ok then
[06:45] <DeFirence> Agent_bob, all i want is iptables, ip route and ip rule in vmware :p
[06:45] <amenado> administrator sure, if you dont have use for them, perhaps also remove the corresponding /lib/modules/xxxx-16 18 19
[06:45] <DeFirence> Agent_bob, im going into my third week of struggling with a simple routing script so i figure i should prepare...
[06:45] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; tovidgui is the binary .. you can use that to add it ..
[06:46] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: so ill aptget that?
[06:46] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; have you tried changing your password?
[06:46] <administrator_> amenado, kk, also how would i add my windows partition... title is easy, root is the same as the linux one, kernel??? what would i do? and initrd???
[06:46] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: what type of network and connection does this host have?
[06:46] <Agent_bob> DeFirence heh yeah but this is not debian   and surely not gentoo      are you sure you have selected the right distro for the job ?     just asking.    and i'll back out now.
[06:46] <H3d93> Right, so I was told I could find help here with an Ubuntu Install I'm trying?
[06:46] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; tovid is the package you will want.
[06:46] <mbrigdan> bastid_raZor: my whole family uses the network. and I don't want to have to switch all the passwords again, given that they are all connected and using it ATM
[06:47] <amenado> administrator_->   root            (hd0,0)
[06:47] <B00daW> Anybody have experience installing Ubuntu on a VM?
[06:47] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: ive got that already and its installed, so how do i get it to open a gui?
[06:47] <amenado> administrator_->   chainloader     +1
[06:47] <B00daW> I'm using VirtualBox and I have an ATI graphics card.
[06:47] <asmo[B]> if I mention wine problems here is someone going to just tell me to go to their channel...
[06:47] <B00daW> I installed the drivers, but it doesn't seem like they're loaded.
[06:47] <administrator_> amenado and? anything else?
[06:47] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: nmap gives my a best guess that they are using Windows XP SP2, and they must be using wireless, as I have the router in front of me
[06:47] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; in a terminal type tovidgui
[06:48] <H3d93> Anyone know anything about installing Ubuntu on a partition already formed?
[06:48] <DeFirence> Agent_bob, i used to use debian, now im using ubuntu as my desktop but ive been trying to get my simple routing script working for weeks so im moving to a clean install in a virtual machine till i get it working...
[06:48] <B00daW> Games are running super slow.
[06:48] <legend2440> spoo1: perhaps   1366x768  is not possible with your video card   type xrandr in terminal and see what options are
[06:48] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; if the unknown host has your password then their isn't much you can do except change it..
[06:48] <asmo[B]> steam keeps crashing
[06:48] <alraune> H3d93 yes
[06:48] <administrator_> amenado anything else???
[06:48] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; or add mac filtering which would be a wise move.
[06:48] <Agent_bob> administrator_ you can follow that with->  boot      # but it's not really needed
[06:48] <mbrigdan> bastid_raZor: it might be something I own though, and just can't figure out
[06:48] <amenado> administrator_-> here is my reference http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[06:49] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: is your router secure, encrypted etc
[06:49] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; heh, okay then.
[06:49] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: ues
[06:49] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: *yes
[06:49] <alraune> H3d93 : could you put your question more precisely ??
[06:49] <H3d93> Alraune, I have a clean 10 GB partition on a windows machine I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto.
[06:49] <sajuuk> hey guys, what german-english dictionaries are there available for ubuntu?
[06:49] <jesse_> hey anyone in here use mythbuntu
[06:50] <alraune> H3d93 : you will run the installer from cd ?
[06:50] <jesse_> or know the channel for mythbuntu
[06:50] <Flannel> jesse_: #mythbuntu
[06:50] <sajuuk> wot is mythbuntu?
[06:50] <alraune> sajuuk:ff extension  and others
[06:50] <mbrigdan> bastid_raZor: also, MAC addresses are very easily spooffed, mine is currently set to: DE:FA:CE:D0:00:00 :P
[06:50] <kEeBoD> is there a separate channel for hardy? :/
[06:50] <sajuuk> ah
[06:50] <Flannel> !mythbuntu
[06:50] <H3d93> Alraune, Yes, I get to the install and I have to do the manual install, I don't know what to do from there.
[06:50] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: thanks mate, working!
[06:50] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: does the router configuration allow you drop his dhcp lease, or lock his MAC out? change to wpa
[06:51] <bastid_raZor> psynophile; actually, i don't see a way to rotate in nvidia-settings.
[06:51] <kEeBoD> my resolution was working proper on 7.04. but its not working on 8 :(
[06:51] <jesse_> is anyone familiar w/ lirc.. i forget the command to view active output of lirc to see whether or not tis seeing my signals
[06:51] <sajuuk> mbrig, change your encryption to wpa
[06:51] <sajuuk> wep's can be cracked in five minutes
[06:51] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: I am using WPA, i'll see if I can drop him. Also: would a flood of large pings do anything?
[06:51] <alraune> H3d93 : don't install from within windows. After the installer came up, one of the first things you'll be asked..
[06:51] <kEeBoD> everytime i boot, its askin me to select a video driver :-<
[06:52] <administrator_> amenado, wow, also, how do u add a grub password...?
[06:52] <bastid_raZor> mbrigdan; i do not know of a way to kick someone off your network unless you prevent them from connecting to it.
[06:52] <panfist> can anyone point me to a good how-to for grub installation
[06:52] <administrator_> amenado, infact dw
[06:52] <bastid_raZor> !grub
[06:52] <kEeBoD> and its selecting a driver named 'vesa' by default :|
[06:52] <administrator_> amenado, ive asked u far too much for one day lol
[06:52] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; glad i could help.
[06:52] <sajuuk> mbrigdan, can you briefly restate whats happening?
[06:52] <alraune> H3d93 : is about partiton. There you can select manual and then your free 10g.
[06:52] <amenado> administrator_-> i reference that link for anything related to grub..password should be there noh
[06:52] <amenado> ?
[06:53] <spoo1> legend2440, will that be the same since its a tv not a regular monitor?
[06:53] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: change your key and reboot the router
[06:53] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: whats the difference between mpeg2enc and ffmpeg encoding?
[06:53] <H3d93> Alraune, This is on the Live Cd's menu? I hit install and I can select the blank 10GB Partition?
[06:53] <alraune> H3d93 : Ubuntu will install a bootloader to your  MBR, usually detecs the win system and includes it for dual_boot
[06:53] <mbrigdan> sajuuk: I found a remot host on my network with nmap, and I want to forcibly disconnect him. Or I did...
[06:53] <sajuuk> nmap....
[06:54] <sajuuk> i swear i have seen that on... backtrack?
[06:54] <asmo[B]> how do I check recent updates to a program?
[06:54] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: bastid_raZor: NVM, it seems that the "unknown host" was my dad. Oops. Guess those ping floods were a bit misplaced.
[06:54] <asmo[B]> *done by the update manager...
[06:54] <sajuuk> LOL
[06:54] <alraune> H3d93 : First make shure the cd is alright(check media for defects)  2) Disable virusProtect in Bios 3) Boot from cd..
[06:55] <panfist> that wiki page for grub does not help me because i have never installed grub in the first place...when i get to "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" it says file not found
[06:55] <LumpyCam> mbrigdan: its not nice to DoS daddy
[06:55] <sajuuk> nice one mbrigdan
[06:55] <H3d93> Alraune, Right.
[06:55] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; i've always used ffmpeg .. why .. it works so why mess with something that works. google knows all :)
[06:55] <psynophile> bastid_raZor: it seems to be mostly because of this TwinView thing, before i do it, let me ask you this: do you think that the opensource nvidia drivers would have this capability?
[06:55] <alraune> H3d93 : When the installer comes up, u will have an interactive dialoge...
[06:55] <mbrigdan> LumpyCam: sajuuk: I don't think he noticed. I should have gone with a larger payload.
[06:56] <H3d93> alraune, Right, the main menu of the live CD
[06:56] <Mycah_> How do I add brushes on GIMP in linux? :D
[06:56] <sajuuk> mbrigdan: how were you DoS'ing him anyway?
[06:56] <Mycah_> I mean, where is the folder for GIMP. Can't find it
[06:56] <alraune> H3d93 : where you can choose automatic or user advised Partitioning
[06:56] <legend2440> spoo1: i use tvout to watch avi's on my tv and i think the max rez for a regular tv is 640x480.  if memory serves
[06:56] <mbrigdan> sajuuk: ping -f <ip>
[06:56] <paul_5666> bastid_raZor: cheers mate!
[06:56] <bastid_raZor> psynophile; the driver from the repo's is the best i've been able to find.
[06:56] <mbrigdan> sajuuk: not really the most effective
[06:56] <bastid_raZor> paul_5666; good luck.
[06:56] <H3d93> Alraune, Okay.
[06:56] <sajuuk> mbrigdan: wouldn't that be only one ping a sec/cycle
[06:57] <alraune> H3d93 : Any more questions ?
[06:57] <mbrigdan> sajuuk: notice the -f, it tells ping to flood as many packets as it can
[06:57] <psynophile> bastid_raZor: huh? nvidia has repos? or the opensource drivers' repos?
[06:57] <H3d93> Alraune, Not now, I'm going to go see if that works! Thank you.
[06:57] <sajuuk> mbrigdan: so ping -f ##  <IP> ?
[06:58] <mbrigdan> sajuuk: nope, just -f alone
[06:58] <gregorah> Is there a way I can change from a 32 bit install to a 64 bit install without doing a reinstall?
[06:58] <sajuuk> wots -f do?
[06:58] <mbrigdan> sajuuk: flood
[06:58] <sajuuk> aha
[06:58] <Mycah_> How do I get to the folder for GIMP?
[06:58] <bastid_raZor> psynophile; i'm speaking of nvidia-glx-new .. the drivers from nvidia's website seem to be less refined.. i could be wrong.
[06:58] <coz_> Mycah_,  /usr/share/gimp
[06:58] <Mycah_> ok
[06:58] <Flannel> gregorah: Nope
[06:58] <legend2440> spoo1: are you using a tv as your only computer monitor?
[06:58] <gregorah> Ok, thanks
[06:59] <Mycah_> thank you :]
[06:59] <panfist> what is the terminal command that lists what is mounted?
[06:59] <gregorah> mount -l?
[06:59] <LumpyCam> panfist: mount
[06:59] <bastid_raZor> psynophile; in speaking of repo's .. ubuntu's repo's.
[06:59] <panfist> ty
[06:59] <Flannel> mbrigdan: Please take that topic elsewhere, thanks.
[06:59] <sajuuk> mbrigdan: lets go to off-topic
[06:59] <gregorah> Holy shit BitTorrent is fast.
[07:00] <mbrigdan> language...
[07:00] <gregorah> Sorry
[07:00] <asmo[B]> but atleast it was holy
[07:00] <coz_> gregorah, I believe it is "gosh golly  bittorrent is fast"
[07:00] <psynophile> bastid_raZor: seems like the only way to really tell would be to try it and see if i can set up xorg with xcinerella to identify each screen individually, then xrandr the right one and see if it works, i'll give it a shot, thanks for the help, later
[07:01] <alraune> !offtopic|alraune
[07:01] <bastid_raZor> psynophile; i'm sure there should be a way to...
[07:02] <gregorah> I was getting 5.2 MB/s, on what I think is a 2 MB/s connection.
[07:02] <spoo1> legend2440, yes