[12:00] <LinuxJones> St0n3-C0l, have you run into any problems with it so far ?
[12:00] <topyli> XTC: if you can set up iptables, you might as well write the commands into a script and run it at boot time. what's the problem?
[12:00] <St0n3-C0l> LinuxJones: Just getting it
[12:01] <Dr_Jekyll> XTC: i personally would use shorewall (a frontend for iptables, much more clear and easy)
[12:01] <St0n3-C0l> LinuxJones: I'll soon pass my comments on it :P
[12:01] <LinuxJones> St0n3-C0l, I think that I will let ummmm..... you install first :)
[12:02] <XTC> topyli i dunno much about linux xD that's the problem
[12:02] <XTC> :p
[12:02] <XTC> shorewall hm....
[12:02] <grout_> i tried to ssh into my machine but my password dosnt work
[12:02] <grout_> does it have a diffrent defauly password or something
[12:02] <topyli> XTC: then just install firestarter and run the wizard. :) why do you need a firewall anyway?
[12:02] <rempresent> dcraven:  it said that ndiswrapper isnt installed
[12:02] <theine> grout_: no
[12:03] <XTC> no, i need it for sharing inet in my house
[12:03] <theine> grout_, with which command did you ssh into your machine?
[12:03] <rempresent> dcraven:  but i am sure i installed it, i typed in "dpkg -i whateverthenameofpackage.deb"
[12:03] <grout_> ssh (ip)
[12:03] <topyli> XTC: ok, firestarter makes that easy
[12:03] <theine> grout_, and (ip) was?
[12:03] <dcraven> rempresent, did you compile it yourself?
[12:03] <rempresent> umm
[12:04] <theine> grout_, did you try 'ssh localhost'?
[12:04] <rempresent> dcraven:  i don't know, i just typed that in, what else do i need to do
[12:04] <grout_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:04] <dcraven> rempresent, do you remember what "whateverthenameofpackage.deb" really was?
[12:04] <St0n3-C0l> LinuxJones: how do I force any software to install without checking depencies ?
[12:04] <rempresent> yeah
[12:05] <theine> grout_, are you sure you have the same username on both machines?
[12:05] <St0n3-C0l> dependencies*
[12:05] <rempresent> dcraven: ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb
[12:05] <Dr_Jekyll> grout_: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:06] <LinuxJones> St0n3-C0l, ohh that's bad :)
[12:06] <Dr_Jekyll> or whatever username u need
[12:06] <St0n3-C0l> LinuxJones: curl3 requires by yast2-core but version 1.2.x something is already installed which is newer than the required one :P
[12:06] <dcraven> rempresent, then you probably still need to compile it then. Hold up.
[12:07] <CarlK> apt-get install kernel-source says "Note, selecting kernel-source-2.4.27 instead of kernel-source" even though I am on the defalt of Linux snubby 2.6.10-5-386 - does this make any sense?
[12:07] <dcraven> rempresent, what is the output of the command "uname -r"?
[12:07] <rempresent> dcraven:  2.6.10-5-386
[12:07] <St0n3-C0l> hah
[12:08] <grout_> how can i choose which machine i wanna ssh into?
[12:08] <theine> CarlK, try apt-get install linux-source...
[12:08] <dcraven> rempresent, check that you have a directory called /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.1 as well.. I'm guessing that's what that .deb package did.
[12:08] <theine> grout_, you specify the ip of that machine?
[12:08] <rempresent> dcraven:  nope
[12:09] <grout_> there both on the same local network
[12:09] <theine> grout_, what's your username on the box you want to ssh into?
[12:09] <grout_> grout
[12:09] <rempresent> dcraven: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper
[12:09] <rempresent> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[12:09] <Dr_Jekyll> grout_: every machine has a unique IP number
[12:09] <Dr_Jekyll> so use it
[12:09] <grout_> yea i know
[12:09] <rempresent> dcraven:  those are the two places when i do the "locate" command
[12:09] <grout_> but do i put in two ips?
[12:09] <grout_> like ssh 173.176.94 <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:09] <CarlK> theine - thats better - it took me to linux-source-2.6.10
[12:09] <theine> grout_, then try 'ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or whatever local ip the other machine has
[12:10] <|QuaD-> UBUNTU WAS ON VERONICA MARS LAST NIGHT!!!
[12:10] <rempresent> what is veronica mars?
[12:10] <Dr_Jekyll> grout_: 2 ips? what do you want to do?
[12:10] <|QuaD-> rempresent: a tvshow
[12:10] <dcraven> rempresent, oh... I think one of those is the Ubuntu default. Maybe we should try that first. I had to compile my own though.
[12:10] <rempresent> |QuaD=: nice
[12:10] <rempresent> alright...
[12:10] <rempresent> dcraven:  so what do i do know
[12:11] <dcraven> rempresent, install the ndiswrapper-utils package.
[12:11] <dcraven> rempresent, via apt.
[12:11] <St0n3-C0l> anyway to force software ?
[12:11] <rempresent> dcraven: done
[12:11] <grout_> whats the command to see disk space?
[12:12] <theine> grout_, df -h
[12:12] <dcraven> rempresent, now try "ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windowsdriver.inf".
[12:12] <grout_> thanks
[12:12] <Dr_Jekyll> far to much chattering in here, i part for the night, you guys would fill my logs too fast =) -- gnite
[12:12] <grout_> whats df stand fore?
[12:12] <grout_> for
[12:12] <chris_d> grout_: disk free
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB>  DiskFree
[12:12] <theine> grout_, no idea :)
[12:12] <arturo_> Alguien habla Espaol??
[12:12] <theine> HrdwrBoB, ah
[12:12] <lycan> yo hablo espaol
[12:12] <arturo_> no pos chido
[12:12] <arturo_> Soy David wey.
[12:12] <topyli> arturo_: #ubuntu-es
[12:12] <BackSlaSh83> supposing that i have one among gconfd-2, gam_server, gnome-vfs-daemon,bonobo-activation stalling and not letting me load gnome, any idea on qhat should i do?
[12:12] <lycan> ahhhhh
[12:13] <lycan> jajajajaja
[12:13] <dcraven> rempresent, is it by chance the bcmwl5 driver?
[12:13] <rempresent> dcraven:  uhh .. this happened
[12:13] <lycan> y ese nombre
[12:13] <rempresent> dcraven: root@rempresent:~ # ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom1/Driver/bcmwl5.inf
[12:13] <rempresent> ls: /etc/ndiswrapper: No such file or directory
[12:13] <rempresent> Installing bcmwl5
[12:13] <rempresent> Forcing parameter RadioState|0 to RadioState|1
[12:13] <lycan> es del mallami?
[12:14] <Cuga> Hey is anybody here running Hoary with a 6600GT nvidia video card?
[12:14] <arturo_> De buen apuro salimos wey.
[12:14] <arturo_> ni quien nos oriente en algo aqui
[12:14] <dcraven> rempresent, good. Now do a "modprobe ndiswrapper". You should get no output.
[12:14] <rempresent> dcraven: that is the driver though
[12:14] <rempresent> ok
[12:14] <lycan> eso si
[12:14] <Cuga> I can't use anything that uses GL for more then 5 secs then the system locks up
[12:14] <dcraven> rempresent, the good news is that that is the same driver I'm using right now, so it does work. I compiled my own ndiswrapper though.
[12:14] <rempresent> dcraven:  i did that there was no output, so i am guessing that i can use it
[12:15] <arturo_> Busquemos una sala en espaol
[12:15] <lycan> @find belinda
[12:15] <dcraven> rempresent, do a "ndiswrapper -l" to see if all is well.
[12:15] <rempresent> alright, how can i test it out...
[12:15] <rempresent> alright
[12:15] <lycan> pues haber en donde es
[12:15] <rempresent> Installed ndis drivers:
[12:15] <rempresent> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[12:15] <dcraven> rempresent, assuming all is well, do an "ndiswrapper -m" to make it load on its own when you reboot.
[12:16] <dcraven> rempresent, looks good so far. You should be able to use it.
[12:16] <MajestiK> Hi, I'm trying to get a problem with libc.so.6 fixed, and I found a bugzilla entry that seems to show that it's been fixed, and commited already https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=26 specifically "Fixed in glibc -20ubuntu12 upload." is there anything I need to do to get access to the fix?
[12:16] <rempresent> dcraven: alright thanks a ton
[12:16] <neighborlee> ubuntu hoary uses which reiserfs ..3.5 or 3.6 ?
[12:16] <dcraven> rempresent, no problem. Good luck.
[12:16] <rempresent> yeah
[12:17] <CarlK> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 - that just leaves me with linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 ?
[12:18] <CarlK> I wonder what the point of that is..
[12:18] <dcraven> CarlK, you ask for source, you get source :)
[12:18] <rempresent> dcraven:  what type of application can i use to monitor network activity through my router...
[12:18] <rempresent> .. or to look for other APs
[12:19] <St0n3-C0l> Anyway to force the software in Synaptic to install it without checking dependencies ?
[12:19] <SpaceNuts> hi
[12:19] <twalls> hi
[12:19] <SpaceNuts> Waht is meant with, "Failed to stat file ..."
[12:19] <dcraven> rempresent, the netapplet applet will list APs, so will "iwlist wlan0 scan" I think.
[12:19] <rempresent> dcraven:  like the icon in windows that shows you the APs availiable and status
[12:19] <CarlK> 700mb drive is running out of space... what is the apt command to delete it's cache?
[12:19] <SpaceNuts> What does the word "stat" mean
[12:19] <dcraven> rempresent, as for traffic monitoring, I dunno. I'm sure there are plenty.
[12:19] <mindmedic> CarlK, man apt-get
[12:19] <Cylanes> Hi there.
[12:19] <dcraven> rempresent, I'm not familiar with Windows.
[12:19] <mindmedic> read through
[12:20] <mindmedic> and then type apt-get clean
[12:20] <SpaceNuts> CarlK: apt-cache clear         I beleieve
[12:20] <SpaceNuts> CarlK: or clean
[12:20] <rempresent> dcraven:  how to i install the netapplet applet
[12:20] <mindmedic> dunno :)
[12:20] <dcraven> rempresent, others in here are familiar with it though.
[12:20] <SpaceNuts> CarlK: apt-cache --help|grep clea
[12:20] <SiRrUs> hello
[12:20] <dcraven> rempresent, apt-get install netapplet?
[12:20] <CarlK> I hope so... got to race tar for space
[12:20] <MajestiK> Is there a bleeding edge apt source, like debian's unstable?
[12:20] <rempresent> dcraven:  thanks!
[12:21] <SpaceNuts> What is meant with, "Failed to stat file ..."? What does the word "stat" mean?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> CarlK: apt-get clean
[12:21] <theine> CarlK, sudo apt-get clean
[12:21] <gasman> Hi all.  I am repackaging my kernel, I was wondering if anyone had a seconed to help me a bit
[12:21] <theine> MajestiK, there'll soon be breezy (if not already...)
[12:22] <CarlK> breezy went up in the last 24 hours
[12:22] <MajestiK> theine: s/hoary/breezy/g
[12:22] <Amaranth> CarlK: No packages for breezy yet.
[12:22] <theine> MajestiK, yep
[12:22] <SpaceNuts> I am translating Gnomebaker, can anyone give me the meaning of the word Stat ??
[12:22] <Amaranth> It exists in spirit, but it isn't there. :P
[12:22] <nebyeti> as in statistic?
[12:22] <SpaceNuts> well that I don't know
[12:23] <SpaceNuts> it says Failed to stat file
[12:23] <MajestiK> Hmm.. breezy only has one package different then hoary right now :)
[12:23] <SeamusLP> Translating gnomebaker?  I think they need to work on a couple of basic things first
[12:23] <SpaceNuts> SeamusLP: well ok, just translating some stuff with Rosetta
[12:23] <SeamusLP> Like for example, burning dvd iso's.  Copying dvds.
[12:23] <theine> MajestiK, well, as CarlK said, it's been started within the last 24 hours
[12:23] <SiRrUs> SpaceNuts i think it means that the file is not on the server
[12:23] <An0ator> which good dvd/cd cooking application (GUI) do you recommend?
[12:24] <SpaceNuts> Sirrus: that the file cannot be found
[12:24] <theine> MajestiK, I'm sure in a week there'll be plenty of new packages...
[12:24] <SeamusLP> oh wait, I'm thinking graveman
[12:24] <SeamusLP> Yeah gnomebaker is the good one.
[12:24] <gaio> An0ator, graveman
[12:24] <SpaceNuts> thx for your help
[12:24] <MajestiK> theine: yeah.. not a surprise then :)  I'm hunting for a newer libc6 version, hopefully one that fixes this problem I have with Matlab
[12:24] <An0ator> gaio: thx
[12:24] <Cuga> Does anybody here have a working 6600GT nvidia video card with ubuntu ?
[12:24] <gaio> An0ator, nautilus itself
[12:24] <theine> MajestiK, wouldn't you rather need an older libc6 for Matlab?
[12:25] <MajestiK> theine: the bug(s) I found seem to think that a newer one has a patch to fix the problems..
[12:25] <rempresent> dcraven:  i have a problem, my wlan0 isn't configured, that is what it is saing
[12:25] <MajestiK> gentoo, debian, and ubuntu all have the exact same problem
[12:25] <theine> MajestiK, i see
[12:25] <rempresent> dcraven:  *saying
[12:25] <MajestiK> theine: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=26
[12:26] <MajestiK> (And I'm having troubles with Schrodinger's Maestro as well.. but it's the same problem)
[12:26] <rempresent> dcraven:  but in my connecton properties, i am getting two options for configuring the internet, it is eth0 and lo
[12:26] <MajestiK> I only have one fix now, and it's totally unacceptable.. RedHat
[12:26] <An0ator> what about a gui frontend for creating iptables rulesets, plus defining QoS if possible?
[12:26] <SeamusLP> MajestiK, I suppose upgrading libc would break things?
[12:27] <theine> MajestiK, "xmms: does not start without libesd0 installed"?
[12:27] <theine> MajestiK, that one?
[12:27] <Verwilst> man, ubuntu is sweet :$
[12:27] <MajestiK> theine: it ends up being a libc problem
[12:28] <MajestiK> SeamusLP: it might break things.. which is why it's not in hoary (yet)
[12:28] <SeamusLP> MajestIk I think you'd have to get breezy for that
[12:29] <MajestiK> SeamusLP: yeah, which means I get to wait till breezy actually has packages seperate from hoary.. Oh well, users get to wait :)
[12:30] <theine> MajestiK, hmm, it says that it's fixed in -20ubuntu12, and i have -20ubuntu13 under hoary...
[12:31] <MajestiK> theine: where did you get that detail on the version for libc?
[12:31] <theine> MajestiK, synaptic
[12:31] <Feugan> hi all, The following error is what is stopping my wireless card from working on hoary: localhost kernel: Polling for an IRQ FAILED with 0, cmd_status 0, irqs_active 1.  Does anyone know what this error is about?
[12:32] <whiteknight> Feugan, what is your wireless card?
[12:32] <MajestiK> theine: I'm running 20ubuntu13 as well.. maybe time to submit a new bug :)
[12:33] <Feugan> The card works on Mandrake
[12:33] <Feugan> chipset : acx100
[12:33] <theine> MajestiK, what's the error message you're getting when you try to run matlab
[12:33] <SeamusLP> Feugan:  Did it work during the install?
[12:33] <Feugan> actually acx111
[12:34] <neighborlee> ubuntu hoary uses which reiserfs ..3.5 or 3.6 ?
[12:34] <MajestiK> theine: http://pastebin.ca/9505
[12:34] <Feugan> No, but I did not expect it to. The drivers are still in development. But the drivers do work
[12:35] <whiteknight> Feugan, where are you getting the drivers from? http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
[12:35] <SeamusLP> Feugan: you wouldn't happen to be using a dell laptop would you?
[12:35] <theine> MajestiK, those syntax errors are pretty weird already, aren't they?
[12:35] <Feugan> yes, that's it
[12:35] <An0ator> the eternal question: ext3, reiser4, xfs, jfs? best for most scenarios?
[12:35] <topyli> An0ator: ext3
[12:36] <Feugan> SeamusLP: No PC
[12:36] <MajestiK> theine: that's probably just the matlab startup script.. the last line is the important one.. I should read before pasting :)
[12:36] <whiteknight> Feugan, seen this? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-50228.html
[12:36] <whiteknight> Feugan, seems like someone else has had the same problem
[12:37] <theine> MajestiK, the last line looks pretty complicated...
[12:37] <Feugan> ah, give me a sec i'll take a look
[12:37] <whiteknight> Feugan, actually isn't that useful :)
[12:38] <whiteknight> Feugan, are you using the same driver as in mandrake? and are you compiling it yourself from source?
[12:38] <whiteknight> Feugan, finally what exactly is your card?
[12:39] <MajestiK> theine: any ideas? or submit bug?
[12:39] <Pluk> yay just got wmv9 working on amd64 with a 32bit chroot :)
[12:39] <Pluk> chrooting is nice
[12:39] <theine> MajestiK, have a look at this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2004/10/msg00026.html
[12:40] <MajestiK> theine: I think I found that one a couple times in the last few hours :)  shouldn't that be available now then?  It was Oct/04, aka 6 months ago..
[12:41] <Feugan> whiteknight: I'm compiling myself, no problems there, I can't tell exactly what the card is because a company called Mecer put their branding on the card and pretend that they made it. It's a 802.11g
[12:41] <whiteknight> Feugan, from my research it seems that axc111 is recently supported, have you tried ndiswrapper
[12:41] <whiteknight> Feugan, it usually works wonders
[12:41] <theine> MajestiK, I'd suggest to edit the Matlab script and extract the version number by other means
[12:41] <Feugan> whiteknight: oops i'm not using exactly the same driver as in mandrake just a later version. Ok I will try same version :-)
[12:42] <whiteknight> Feugan, yeah thats a good idea, best not to change things!
[12:42] <Feugan> ndiswrapper :-(
[12:42] <MajestiK> theine: actually, matlab isn't my biggest issue, another tool is showing the same thing, but failing worse on it.. (Schrodinger Maestro)
[12:42] <whiteknight> Feugan, really?
[12:43] <theine> MajestiK, how much worse?
[12:43] <Feugan> whiteknight: I hate ndiswrapper :-)
[12:44] <MajestiK> theine: dies trying to use it.. didn't dig much, and as long as I'm getting that error from it, support won't talk to me, since I'm not running DedRat
[12:44] <whiteknight> Feugan, okay, i agree that it is nothing like a native driver, however it does help a lot of people
[12:44] <theine> MajestiK, but just because i'm curious... try replacing line 224 in the matlab script with:
[12:45] <theine> MajestiK, ver="2.3.2"
[12:45] <chase> i need an mp3 encoder so i can get some music on the IPod anyone know a app that does it?
[12:45] <theine> MajestiK, instead of ver=`/lib/libc.so.6 | head -1 | sed -e "s/^[^0-9] *//" -e "s/[ ,] .*$//"`
[12:45] <dazed> boredom :(
[12:45] <Feugan> whitekight: :-) Ok got try that same ver. Thanks for your help!
[12:45] <kangpeh> i take it there is no way to theme ur gtk apps - when running KDE (kubuntu)
[12:45] <kangpeh> ?
[12:46] <whiteknight> Feugan, no worries, hope it works
[12:46] <Quest-Master> What's the best file manager for XFCE besides XFFM (which plainly is pretty bad)?
[12:47] <smouche> rox-filer, Quest-Master !
[12:47] <MajestiK> theine: no can do.. looks like it's hardcoded in to the binaries
[12:47] <Reblended> I'm booted to LIVE CD hoary... what's the command or where do I go to get my wireless adaptor to get recognized?
[12:47] <whiteknight> Reblended, whats the card?
[12:47] <Pluk> rox is great
[12:47] <theine> MajestiK, NANO/tools/matlab_r14_s2/bin/scripts/.matlab7rc.sh is hardcoded??
[12:47] <Reblended> whiteknight, it's a speedbooster G
[12:48] <Reblended> I can get you the model.. hang on
[12:48] <MajestiK> prg3@nanoxeon02:/NANO/tools/matlab_r14_s2/bin/scripts$ grep libc ??*
[12:48] <MajestiK> prg3@nanoxeon02:/NANO/tools/matlab_r14_s2/bin/scripts$
[12:48] <dazed> Reblended: your going to need to get drivers for your model and use ndiswrapper to install it
[12:48] <theine> MajestiK, too bad...
[12:48] <MajestiK> yeah
[12:48] <dazed> Reblended: its not going to be too good on livecd since its not going to remember once you reboot
[12:49] <theine> MajestiK, I think you really should submit a bug report and see what people say to this
[12:49] <yyc747> any idea what might fix "The failing step is: install base system"?  I'm on a ppc install, and it's happening
[12:49] <MajestiK> theine: K, thanks!
[12:50] <Reblended> dazed, good. I don't care if it has amnesia... I want to make sure it works. =]
[12:50] <PacoBCN> any snort expert/user in the room?
[12:50] <Quest-Master> smouche: is it really good?
[12:51] <Reblended> whiteknight, model is broadcom bcm4306
[12:51] <whiteknight> Reblended, my favourite :) yeah it'll work, done it personally many years ago!
[12:51] <Reblended> whiteknight, what are the steps! =D
[12:51] <whiteknight> Reblended, gonna need ndiswrapper as suggested already by dazed
[12:51] <dazed> Reblended: well i have the same model...and i can tell you it does work lol
[12:52] <Reblended> cool
[12:52] <Reblended> dazed, I have a thumb drive that I can use to download to and such
[12:52] <dazed> Reblended:  and there is a wiki on exactly how to do it step by step by step its actually a lil complicated process
[12:52] <whiteknight> Reblended, gonna struggle on a live cd though
[12:52] <whiteknight> Reblended, i'm not even sure that the live cd has ndiswrapper included
[12:52] <Reblended> k
[12:52] <Reblended> wiki url? dazed
[12:52] <dazed> let me look real quick
[12:52] <kevman> You start gnome with gnome-session , right?
[12:52] <Reblended> ty dazed
[12:53] <Reblended> and ty whiteknight
[12:53] <dazed> Reblended: if the wiki would ever load lol
[12:53] <Reblended> whiteknight, I'd like to use the hoary install cd to partition this XP machine... I've been told to use partition magic, et al... is it possible with just the install cd?
[12:53] <Reblended> lol dazed
[12:54] <twalls> ello
[12:54] <Reblended> dazed, http://oriol.joor.net/blog-dev/?itemid=1579 ?
[12:54] <Reblended> dazed, it's trying to load.. is it this one? =D
[12:54] <dazed> Reblended: actually its not possible with just install cd thats how i lost my xp and only boot linux now but partion magic works like a pro
[12:54] <dazed> Reblended: one sec im almost there lol
[12:54] <Reblended> Oh dazed  there is a trialware version/
[12:55] <Reblended> sry that url was some unknown language, dazed
[12:55] <whiteknight> Reblended, yeah like dazed says, though i wouldn't have a clue cause i use a ppc
[12:55] <dazed> Reblended: i know the trialware is a pita but there are some ways around it ^-
[12:55] <MMond> Hello, I've an odd question. If anyone is familiar with this: some people start a machine with a live cd such as knoppix in it . . . browser to the sam file to get the hashes and change the hashes . . . has anyone tried it on ubuntu?
[12:55] <dazed> jeeze something must be hoggin my bw cuz no pages are loading right now :(
[12:56] <Reblended> eww dazed
[12:56] <GhostFreeman> any good audio composing programs for Linux
[12:56] <Reblended> oh yes, GhostFreeman !!!
[12:56] <Reblended> flowergarden is it? GhostFreeman
[12:57] <Reblended> GhostFreeman,  http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/  !!!
[12:57] <Reblended> GhostFreeman,  http://www.linuxmusician.com/  http://bloodshed.net/wired/
[12:57] <Reblended> Enjoy, GhostFreeman
[12:57] <whiteknight> Reblended, the files you are going to need are here
[12:57] <whiteknight> Reblended, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[12:58] <Reblended> tyvm whiteknight
[12:58] <Reblended> whiteknight, I'm gonna put it on my thumbdrive and give it a whirl =D
[12:58] <twalls> hmm
[12:58] <whiteknight> Reblended, also you are going to need your windows driver
[12:59] <Reblended> right-o... will this work? http://oriol.joor.net/blog-dev/?itemid=1579  FIND=the Gz file  whiteknight
[12:59] <gaio> boys, how many GB should I need for 1st installation and essential packet for hoary?
[01:00] <dazed> yueah he got it Reblended sorry i took so long i gotta work on this bandwith problem now
[01:00] <Reblended> dazed, just lucky, I guess, I really don't know what google will serve up =)  Try FIREHOSE off the cinerella website
[01:00] <gaio> are 5 giga enough?
[01:01] <Reblended> dazed, what's the ndis command to load the driver?
[01:01] <Reblended> I have the ndis*util*.deb  < will this install?
[01:01] <dazed> hmmm its been a while
[01:01] <GhostFreeman> When do ya think we'll see a proper version of mplayer instead of one that comes up broken in Synaptic
[01:01] <Reblended> dazed,  I'll open terminal  ctrl-alt F6
[01:01] <whiteknight> Reblended, yeah, dpkg -i package
[01:01] <nickrud> gaio, my install is 4.6 gig, 58% used
[01:02] <holycow> GhostFreeman, when you jump in and fix whats broken or hire someone to do so?
[01:02] <whiteknight> Reblended, as in package being ndiswrapper....
[01:02] <Reblended> ahh, great!  whiteknight
[01:02] <nickrud> gaio, 4.6GB partition, that is :)
[01:02] <dazed> ahh shit i forgot i only have ndiswrapper on the laptop...i couldnt tell ya
[01:02] <Reblended> then I'll ungz the driver and is it self explanitory from there?
[01:02] <whiteknight> Reblended, yup, should be easy...
[01:03] <whiteknight> Reblended, still trying to find a guide, no there is one
[01:03] <GhostFreeman> ok
[01:03] <Reblended> sweet! learning experience fun for me... , ok I'll leave this open.. logging, ty!
[01:03] <dazed> Reblended: once you load the driver it will pick up your card and there on out its pretty common sense
[01:03] <GhostFreeman> I guess someone will need to make a xine plugin for Mozilla
[01:03] <Reblended-log> dazed, ty!  gonna go run and try it
[01:03] <Reblended-log> bb in a bit
[01:03] <gaio> nickrud, only base packet and os ?
[01:03] <dazed> gl
[01:04] <djm62> firefox on ubuntu hoary....is there an issue with icons in dialogues?
[01:04] <Fast240Z> hey, can someone help me out with mounting a fat32 partition in fstab with write permissions?
[01:04] <nickrud> gaio, base install plus maybe 10-20 extra packages.
[01:05] <CarlK> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10, untar, cd .. make.  (no configure) will that make the same kernel I currently have?
[01:05] <CarlK> no... *** You have not yet configured your kernel!
[01:05] <ccelio> hi all
[01:05] <nickrud> gaio, the one thing I should mention is not to have synaptic keep downloaded files, your cache can get quite large.
[01:05] <gaio> nickrud, tnx ;)
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Whenever I try to play songs with Rhythmbox now
[01:06] <Quest-Master> It keeps on saying Error: resource not able to be opened
[01:06] <Quest-Master> And a bunch of stuff like that
[01:06] <Quest-Master> However
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Other players like XMMS
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Are able to perfectly play the same songs
[01:06] <Quest-Master> No errors
[01:06] <Quest-Master> >_<
[01:07] <Fast240Z> anyone know anything about nautilus?
[01:07] <dazed> whats the problem Fast240Z
[01:08] <CarlK> kernel is untared.. make is running.. I have 44meg free after apt-get clean - anything else I can ditch?
[01:08] <crimsun> blahrus: pong
[01:09] <Fast240Z> well, I don't like how big the icons are, and after browsing through Configuration Editor, I found a string that allowed me to change the icon zooming
[01:09] <mkde> hi all, does anyone know about evolution and gpg? I'm trying to find out how to import a gpg signature. Anyone know?
[01:09] <Fast240Z> and I was wondering what to type in to shrink the icons down just a little bit, instead of making them micro sized
[01:09] <dazed>  ok cool
[01:10] <Fast240Z> oh, the string is /apps/nautilus/icon_view/default_zoom
[01:12] <Fast240Z> that, and is there a "look and feel" section for gnome to change window behavior and such?
[01:12] <Tyche> Hello
[01:13] <djm62> Quest-Master: do you have the gstreamer components installed?
[01:13] <nickrud> fast240z, System->Preferences->File Management has zoom controls
[01:13] <djm62> Fast240Z: System->Preferences-> gives you the gnome preferences
[01:14] <Fast240Z> okay
[01:14] <yyc747__> tell me, does hoary come with xorg?
[01:14] <Quest-Master> djm62: It's been working fine for the past year
[01:14] <mkde> Fast240Z, sadly I believe that the icon zoom will also reduce the size of your desktop text
[01:14] <mkde> Fast240Z, lemme know if i'm wrong tho
[01:14] <csj> hello, what is the newest version of Ubuntu package  repository since hoary released?
[01:15] <Fast240Z> mkde: not a big deal, it's too large for me anyways
[01:15] <csj> I use hoary but cant get Acoread 7.
[01:15] <mkde> Fast240Z, me too, but when I reduced the icons, my text was too small :/
[01:15] <djm62> Quest-Master: any stray processes running?
[01:15] <blizah> im am having troubles with flashgot/aria...i right mouse click a file click flashgot link and tab over to aria and nothing is happening
[01:16] <mkde> csj, i don't understand the question, what do you mean by version?
[01:16] <nickrud> mkde, Fast240z, you can adjust the desktop font separately in sys>pref>fonts
[01:16] <Fast240Z> oh much better
[01:16] <Fast240Z> now what about making all of the windows smaller/editing window behavior?
[01:16] <Cuga> Has anybody heard if there is an issue with 6600GT's and Xorg and hoary's default kernel?
[01:16] <csj> mkde, I mean what in the sources.list : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu "hoary"<- this term
[01:16] <djm62> also, just in case you installed something that conflicts with gstreamer-*
[01:17] <Tyche> I'm looking to play a Movie DVD from my laptop with Ubuntu...what is the best program to do that? Will it do it natively? or do I need to start using universe, etc.
[01:17] <Fast240Z> oh that made everything look a whole hell of a lot better
[01:17] <Fast240Z> thanks so much guys!
[01:17] <csj> mkde, I want to use the newest package like Debian unstable, so I use "hoary"?
[01:18] <csj> in sources.list
[01:18] <mkde> csj, yep
[01:18] <mkde> csj, ubuntu does not have an unstable version atm
[01:18] <djm62> Tyche: it won't do it natively for potential legal reasons...mplayer from extra sources does it fine for me
[01:18] <mkde> mplayer from universe for me :)
[01:18] <blizah> anyone using flashgot and aria?
[01:18] <mkde> plus libdvdcss2 from marillat
[01:19] <blizah> do i need to set up aria in any way?
[01:19] <Tyche> djm62, thank you....would that be marillat (sp?)
[01:19] <djm62> yeah
[01:19] <crimsun> mkde: (multiverse?)
[01:19] <mkde> crimsun, libdvdcss2 is in multiverse?
[01:19] <crimsun> mkde: < mkde> mplayer from universe for me :)
[01:19] <djm62> really decreases one's respect for the law...
[01:19] <mkde> oh yeah sorry
[01:19] <csj> mkde, hmm, thanks, but I feel strange that the packages in hoary are older in Debian unstable? like fontconfig and Acroread,etc.
[01:19] <PedroCC> mkde, i didnt find mplayer on universe
[01:20] <mkde> PedroCC, see crimsun's correction above
[01:20] <mkde> sorry
[01:20] <mkde> csj, why? hoary is a stable OS
[01:20] <CarlK> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10, untar, cd .. make menuconfig; "...must install ncurses-devel..." E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel
[01:20] <crimsun> csj: that's because those packages are from a _snapshot_
[01:20] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, I need to know how to copy paste... that .deb package was a long type =p
[01:20] <CarlK> so what do I need inorder to configure a kernel?
[01:20] <crimsun> CarlK: install libncurses-dev
[01:20] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, Ok.. I got ndis installed... how do I use it to install the driver?
[01:20] <dazed> Reblended-log: well you can use tabbing just hit tab when u have a portion of the deb package typed int
[01:21] <Reblended-log> Ohhh cool ty dazed
[01:21] <CarlK> crimsun - thanks... is that " must install" message a ubuntu thing?
[01:21] <Reblended-log> dazed, was pretty painless tho
[01:21] <crimsun> CarlK: that's an 'install kernel-package' thing
[01:21] <dazed> Reblended-log: thats good :)
[01:21] <csj> crimsun, I dont understand clearly, so I cant get acroread 7 ? or I should add some line in sources.list?
[01:21] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, the command is ndiswrapper -i *.inf
[01:21] <CarlK> Ill let someone (cj)in buzilla land figure it out ;)
[01:21] <Reblended-log> tyvm! whiteknight
[01:22] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, no worries
[01:22] <Reblended-log> gonna go do this now ty whiteknight and da
[01:22] <dazed> i wish someone would fix my problem :(
[01:22] <crimsun> csj: you can. Use debian-marillat.
[01:22] <whiteknight> dazed, whats your problem :)
[01:22] <Reblended-log> dazed, did you check out firehose? =]
[01:22] <csj> crimsun, ok, thanks :)
[01:22] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, after that command
[01:22] <dazed> whiteknight: lol ill link you to my post...i dont think its fixable
[01:22] <dazed> Reblended-log: nah whats the link?
[01:22] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, you have to do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:23] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, yes?  ty will do
[01:23] <Reblended-log> dazed, sec
[01:23] <dazed> whiteknight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26721
[01:24] <Reblended-log> slow down there pardner =p  http://heroinewarrior.com/firehose.php3  dazed
[01:24] <whiteknight> dazed, urgh sounds like one of those really annoying problems
[01:24] <dazed> whiteknight: yeah tell me about it
[01:24] <whiteknight> dazed, have you tried the suggested solution, apm and such?
[01:24] <zerokarmaleft> i'm not sure i like the hoary's behavior of links in third-party applications ALWAYS opening a new instance of firefox
[01:24] <Neil3> hey folks is anyone else getting this happening: in Evolution, the 'New' button in the top left of the screen is constantly 'raised' in the position it would be when the mouse rolls over it
[01:24] <femv> people how can i disable some things that ubuntu is doing at boot time ????
[01:24] <merlin__> does anyone know where the install logs are saved after an install?
[01:24] <dazed> whiteknight: as i replied i have noidea what that is
[01:25] <nickrud> Neil3, that's normal. It's a special widget, not a regular button.
[01:25] <whiteknight> dazed, want me to walk you through it?
[01:25] <whiteknight> dazed, :)
[01:25] <ctrler_> i have disk access every 5 seconds, is there a way to stop that?
[01:25] <crimsun> dazed: boot with "noapic"
[01:25] <Neil3> ok, i just notice it happening when i use the clearlooks or human themes, but not with others, nickrud
[01:25] <dazed> whiteknight, uhmm sure let me get on xchat so i can actually read..
[01:26] <whiteknight> dazed, damn crimsun got ahead of me :)
[01:26] <dazed> crimsun: how can i boot with noapic without doing it through grub.lst
[01:26] <blizah> anyone have aria and flashgot working?
[01:26] <dazed> brb 3 seconds
[01:26] <htaccess> why does ubuntu use postfix? whats wrong with exim4? its at least as easy to configure as postfix, afaik debain is not planing to replace exim with postfix as the default mta so why the choice by ubuntu?
[01:26] <nickrud> Neil3, yeah, appearances: that's a theme thing :)
[01:27] <femv> people help me out .. i need to disable pcmcia recognizon at startup
[01:27] <merlin__> htaccess: they said they wanted an MTA that was as small and secure as possible
[01:27] <merlin__> I still prefer exim4 though
[01:27] <crimsun> dazed|: when your computer gets to the grub boot prompt, press 'e' and add noapic to the end, then press enter and press b
[01:27] <lamont> htaccess: could have something to do with me being heavily involved...
[01:27] <lamont> dunno
[01:28] <dazed|> alrgith back so would i have to enter noapic in grub.lst?
[01:28] <htaccess> yea the old postfix is modular so its goto be more secure argument nevermind that exim has an excellent security record
[01:28] <crimsun> lamont: never would have guessed since your the postfix maintainer ;)
[01:28] <crimsun> you're
[01:28] <foobar> has anybody been able to successfully install dvd::rip in ubuntu or kubuntu??
[01:28] <merlin__> So no one knows where the ubuntu install logs go? Do they get lost after the install?
[01:28] <dazed|> crimsun thanks ill brb and give it a shot
[01:28] <djm62> femv: dirty way.../etc/init.d/pcmcia goes elsewhere
[01:28] <PedroCC> anywone know how i play mpg on totem ?
[01:28] <cfh_dev> I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 but I don't remember it asking me to set the root password.  Is there a default password for root?
[01:28] <lamont> htaccess: it was more one of 'if I have to maintain it, I'd rather maintain postfix',  and noone else had a strong opinion
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> cfh_dev: no
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> cfh_dev: you can use 'sudo' to run things as root
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> you enter your password
[01:29] <htaccess> lamont: i assume its easy to subsitiute exim4?
[01:29] <cfh_dev> So is there no way to su to root?
[01:29] <ResNet|Eric> cfh_dev: sudo su :)
[01:29] <cfh_dev> ahh, okay.
[01:29] <ctrler_> i have disk access every 5 seconds, is there a way to stop that? thank u...
[01:29] <ResNet|Eric> cfh_dev: gives you # prompt IIRC
[01:29] <sdogi> huh, having hard time here to upgrade from warty to hoary
[01:29] <lamont> htaccess: apt-get install exim4, and say 'lalalala' when it tells you that it's removing ubuntu-base
[01:29] <ResNet|Eric> What kernel version is the latest ubuntu using?
[01:30] <crimsun> ResNet|Eric: it's better to suggest sudo -s
[01:30] <femv> djm62 you mean delete that file ?
[01:30] <crimsun> ResNet|Eric: 2.6.10 + lots of patches from .11.x
[01:30] <djm62> femv: no!
[01:30] <pvoce> I think its 2.6.10
[01:30] <cfh_dev> Sorry to sound so ignorant but I'm used to Debian.
[01:30] <stas> hi friends!
[01:30] <cfh_dev> So instead of su'ing to do something, I use sudo instead.  Is that correct?
[01:30] <nickrud> lamont: couldn't it be postfix | exim in ubuntu-base?
[01:30] <stas> I JUST installed ubuntu!
[01:30] <ResNet|Eric> crimsun: thanks for the kernel info...whats sudo -s?
[01:30] <foobar> cfh_dev, don't feel bad..i am used to gentoo..this is a totaly new world to me :)
[01:30] <stas> but I don't know the root password
[01:30] <cfh_dev> stas: me, too!
[01:31] <stas> and can't really do anything :((
[01:31] <pvoce> cfh_dev: yeppers. ans its a lot easier to work with
[01:31] <lamont> nickrud: actually, the plan is to pull postfix from ubuntu-base in breezy
[01:31] <femv> djm62 gedit is giving me nothing when trying to open it
[01:31] <lamont> that's right... _NO_ mta in base
[01:31] <cfh_dev> stas: use sudo instead of su
[01:31] <DazeD||laptop> so it should read 'ro quite splash noapic'
[01:31] <cfh_dev> stas: I just asked the same question
[01:31] <crimsun> ResNet|Eric: it's what sudo su does, but it's the recommended way
[01:31] <pvoce> I came over from mandrake (mantiva?)
[01:31] <ResNet|Eric> crimsun: ok, i'll look it up
[01:31] <DazeD||laptop> crimsun: ^?
[01:31] <htaccess> lamont: removing ubuntu-base doesnt sound too good
[01:31] <Diablo-D3> hey guys
[01:31] <stas> lol
[01:31] <foobar> nobody get dvd::rip to install??
[01:31] <blizah> anyone else having problems with aria and flashgot?
[01:31] <stas> sudo no worky either
[01:31] <nickrud> lamont: thanks for the info.
[01:31] <Diablo-D3> can anyone verify hoary's small memory installer working?
[01:31] <stas> ;p
[01:31] <lamont> htaccess: is meta package
[01:31] <crimsun> DazeD||laptop: yes
[01:31] <lamont> no code
[01:31] <cfh_dev> pvoce, foobar: thanks for the info on sudo.
[01:32] <stas> sudo asks for a password
[01:32] <pvoce> cfh_dev: np
[01:32] <DazeD||laptop> ok lets hope this doesnt lock up on me!! what does noapic actually do?
[01:32] <djm62> femv: ah...it is debian.  /etc/rc2.d has a link in it called S20pcmcia
[01:32] <zerokarmaleft> lamont, what about debconf and anacron messages, etc.?
[01:32] <djm62> femv: if you want no pcmcia at startup, remove the link
[01:32] <pvoce> Has anyone else started getting the permisions denied /dev/lp0" after changes?
[01:32] <zerokarmaleft> lamont, where will those go without an mta
[01:32] <lamont> zerokarmaleft: that's the discussion item./
[01:33] <ctrler_> DazeD||laptop, doesnt write access times in files...
[01:33] <stas> :| so how can I get a root prompt
[01:33] <crimsun> DazeD||laptop: disables one of the programmable interrupt controllers. It's a known workaround for buggy hardware. It's also in the Nvidia README.
[01:33] <htaccess> i guess it doenst matter, i dont anticipate using ubuntu as a server as sarge is just round the corner and all that :)
[01:33] <stas> right after installation?
[01:33] <lamont> zerokarmaleft: today they go in roots mailbox, and never get read
[01:33] <djm62> femv: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S20pcmcia
[01:33] <DazeD||laptop> good to know thanks guys
[01:33] <crimsun> ctrler_: no, that's noatime, which is a filesystem mount option
[01:33] <zerokarmaleft> heh, i read them!
[01:33] <ctrler_> ops
[01:33] <ctrler_> sorry
[01:33] <femv> djm62 , rm is ?
[01:33] <pvoce> Ive made sure the dev file was owned by users
[01:33] <lamont> stas: from the gui, go to applications -> system tools -> root terminal, and type in _your_ password at the prompt
[01:33] <DazeD||laptop> i hope that solves it ... be a great stress reliever
[01:33] <djm62> femv: rm is remove
[01:33] <pvoce> even made sure lpr was added to lp group
[01:33] <htaccess> lamont: so it doesnt actualy uninstall anything?
[01:33] <whiteknight> DazeD||laptop, its one of those things that will take ages to decide if it worked
[01:33] <cfh_dev> stas: give sudo your regular user password
[01:34] <stas> ah :))
[01:34] <stas> thanks!
[01:34] <whiteknight> DazeD||laptop, you won't notice that it isn't crashing! :)
[01:34] <DazeD||laptop> whiteknight, i know...everytime i get a "fix" i have to wait atleast a day to see if it worked or not
[01:34] <DazeD||laptop> lol
[01:34] <cfh_dev> stas: I'm right there with you.  I'm having to switch screens between boxes to try things then query the room for answers.
[01:34] <femv> djm62, if i do this... im going to be able to use a pcmcia further ?
[01:34] <DazeD||laptop> and ill go about 12 hours and think i fixed it...then BOOM
[01:34] <ctrler_> is there a way to se what are the applications writing to disk?
[01:34] <djm62> femv: yes, it just won't happen at startup
[01:34] <whiteknight> DazeD||laptop, hehe
[01:34] <lamont> htaccess: it could cause you pain on the next dist-upgrade, but otherwise is fine
[01:35] <DazeD||laptop> im just glad i got my laptop sittin next to me :)
[01:35] <femv> can i back up the file before doing it ?
[01:35] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, I type in sudo ndiswrapper -i *.ini... it can't find ndiswrapper... am I missing something?
[01:35] <nickrud> femv, always back up the file before doing *anything*
[01:35] <PedroCC> wow, totem + xine works smooth...
[01:36] <DazeD||laptop> thats awkward...did u install the package correctly?
[01:36] <stas> heh :)
[01:36] <djm62> femv: to undo the change, you'd do 'sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/pcmcia /etc/rc2.d/S20pcmcia'
[01:36] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, you've installed ndiswrapper-utils?
[01:36] <stas> can I restart X Server
[01:36] <stas> without killing X-Chat?
[01:36] <DazeD||laptop> did u dl ndiswrapper to ur thumb drive?
[01:36] <dottedquad> ok, someone was telling me that ubuntu was built on debian... but someone told me it's not.. So, which one is it?
[01:36] <djm62> femv: it doesn't really make sense to back up a link...it only points to a file
[01:36] <lamont> stas: only if you run xchat on a different x server.. :-)  (that's a no)
[01:36] <crimsun> dottedquad: the former
[01:36] <stas> hehe ok
[01:36] <DazeD||laptop> stas no
[01:36] <hyphenated> dottedquad: it's based on debian
[01:37] <Xeon3D> debian.. ICKKKK
[01:37] <nickrud> whoop's, didn't read correctly, but boy did that hit my disaster button!
[01:37] <dottedquad> alright
[01:37] <dottedquad> so you still use apt?
[01:37] <dottedquad> to download and install packages?
[01:37] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, yes
[01:37] <hyphenated> yes
[01:37] <crimsun> dottedquad: or something that uses libapt, yes
[01:37] <Reblended-log> the whole .deb file  whiteknight
[01:37] <stas> alright!
[01:37] <stas> :))))
[01:37] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, hmmmm
[01:38] <Reblended-log> am I supposed to type the command from within the directory where ndis is? whiteknight
[01:38] <engie> Hi. Where can I get a torrent for the dvd of hoary?
[01:38] <stas> it took me 3 hours yesterday to get my monitor working at normal refresh rates, using ubuntu's livecd
[01:38] <djm62> femv: if you remove the link, the file stays, and you can manually start pcmcia with 'sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia start'
[01:38] <stas> now it's all good :)))
[01:38] <DazeD||laptop> how do i kill a nick thats registered to me thats in due to iregular close?
[01:38] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, no, the command should be system wide
[01:39] <Reblended-log> ok.. hmm I'll try installing ndis utils again... I don't have to uninstall first I hope?  whiteknight
[01:39] <thoreauputic> DazeD||laptop: /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password>
[01:39] <femv> djm62 , ill give it a try im going to reboot and see what happens... thx a lot
[01:39] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, no it should overwrite
[01:39] <Reblended-log> brb
[01:39] <DazeD||laptop> thanks thoreauputic
[01:39] <queuetue> The complete lack of updates makes me uneasy. :)
[01:40] <queuetue> I've been tracking hoary for a month, and there was *always* an update waiting. :)
[01:40] <zerokarmaleft> queuetue, i know what you mean
[01:40] <DazeD|> im feeling good about this noapic business
[01:40] <djm62> I hope that made sense 0_0
[01:40] <crimsun> queuetue: there will not be further updates to Hoary for some time _unless_ they're security-related or major, unintrusive fixes.
[01:40] <zerokarmaleft> queuetue, strange to update xorg like 3 times in a week and a half and now...calm
[01:41] <DazeD|> queuetue, lol i know how that is
[01:41] <shinzui> hi
[01:41] <queuetue> major + unintrusive is an infrequent combination. :)
[01:41] <crimsun> queuetue: / zerokarmaleft: don't worry, this is just the calm before the storm. And what a storm it will be. Get ready for some major flux.
[01:41] <nxterra> (P4 1.8, 512 mb ram) Clean Hoary Nvidia driver (Geforce fc 5200 256mb)--- glxgears 13268 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2653.600 FPS  -- Does this suck??
[01:41] <dhonn> no its pretty good
[01:42] <dhonn> i get only 600
[01:42] <nxterra> minimized 6K
[01:42] <queuetue> crimsun, They shoud just create an italian translation of a readme for us or something ... the quiet leaves me wanting.:)
[01:42] <thoreauputic> nxterra: that looks rather impressive to me...
[01:42] <queuetue> crimsun, Yu think there's flux coming in hoary, or flux in the breexy branch?
[01:43] <nxterra> thoreauputic, really--I dont know much about it--in fact I dont play games...rather gnome seems a little bit laggy...any suggestions
[01:43] <Pluk> nxterra, thats decent on a 5200
[01:43] <stas> is there a 'Recycle Bin' here?
[01:43] <djm62> you give people gnome 2.10 ahead of all the other distros...they want fluxbox :-/
[01:43] <zerokarmaleft> this month's ubuntu calendar is a refreshing deviation
[01:43] <queuetue> nxterra, Your glxgears run looks better than mine:
[01:43] <thoreauputic> nxterra: well, my solution is to use fluxbox, but that isn't what you wanted to hear :)
[01:43] <queuetue> nxterra, Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7167, but
[01:43] <queuetue> this library is version 1.0.7174. Please be sure that your kernel
[01:43] <queuetue> module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version.
[01:43] <queuetue> Segmentation fault
[01:44] <DazeD|> nxterra, fluxbox owns hard
[01:44] <nxterra> thoreauputic, no I can live with the lag...I tried it and I could'nt get use to it
[01:44] <queuetue> THat's new ... looks like I have stuff to update after all. :)
[01:44] <crimsun> queuetue: breezy.
[01:44] <Tyche> When I add a new repository in hoary, does it show the custom ones?
[01:44] <djm62> nxterra: use a light gtk-engine, if it is just a cpu/mem issue
[01:44] <DazeD|> is 1159.800 fps good?
[01:45] <queuetue> djm62, How do you know what's a "light" engine?
[01:45] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, OK!
[01:45] <odyssey> zerokarmaleft, it looks crap
[01:45] <nxterra> djm62, using clearlooks milk with milk 2.0 mcity
[01:45] <crimsun> djm62: if fluxbox 0.9.12 doesn't enter Sid soon, I'll work with D upstream and try to generate a -0ubuntu1
[01:45] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, I was typing what I thought was a pipe and it was an L on the desktop
[01:45] <stas> hi
[01:45] <whiteknight> does anyone know where the ndiswrapper howto has gone to? can only find an italian version :)
[01:45] <zerokarmaleft> odyssey, eh you just want naked people :)
[01:45] <stas> what does this error message mean?
[01:45] <stas> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h d oes not exist.
[01:45] <stas> Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[01:45] <stas> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[01:45] <stas> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[01:45] <stas> stas@spitfire:~/devices/realtek/alsa-driver-1.0.4$
[01:45] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, seems to have done 4 lines of "force state"
[01:45] <odyssey> zerokarmaleft, no i want something colourful
[01:45] <djm62> femv: ok?
[01:45] <stas> I was trying to install audio drivers
[01:45] <crimsun> stas: why are you doing that?
[01:46] <DazeD|> crimsun just build ur own 9.12
[01:46] <DazeD|> i did
[01:46] <stas> and the readme.txt said to ./configure
[01:46] <Reblended-log> whiteknight, (no worries... I got ndis to work)  where do I go to change the settings on the wireless adaptor?
[01:46] <Reblended-log> put the wep key in, etc
[01:46] <zerokarmaleft> Reblended-log, iwconfig
[01:46] <Reblended-log> thx zerokarmaleft
[01:46] <femv> djm62, no luck.... my problem is that im having this error msg at boot : pcmcia socket0 unnable to apply power...
[01:46] <crimsun> DazeD|: no, I'd maintain the Ubuntu version. I'm far more interested in making it available in breezy/universe.
[01:47] <crazyhorsetwo25> can anyone tell me how to setup a vpn???
[01:47] <DazeD|> crimsun, ohh ok gotcah...u know by the time breezy is out 9.13 should be out
[01:47] <crimsun> stas: what's wrong with the sound drivers in default Hoary?
[01:47] <Reblended-log> zerokarmaleft, I type this in terminal?
[01:47] <crimsun> DazeD|: of course
[01:47] <stas> they don't work at all
[01:47] <backslash83> i understood a thing: what prevents me to open gnome is gconf2...now i'm supposed to undersand how to fix....can anyone help?
[01:47] <stas> I have onboard sound with my MSI K8N Neo Platinum
[01:47] <backslash83> gconf2 is stalling /thats the prob)
[01:48] <crimsun> stas: and cat /proc/asound/cards tells you...?
[01:48] <zerokarmaleft> Reblended-log, yes...sudo iwconfig wlan0
[01:48] <femv> djm62, it does appear a lot of times before starting ubuntu...
[01:48] <DazeD|> whats a good place for gkrellm themes
[01:48] <DazeD|> besides main site
[01:48] <crimsun> freshmeat.net?
[01:48] <djm62> ah...that's lower-level than starting pcmcia services
[01:49] <stas> 0 [CK8S           ] : NFORCE - NVidia CK8S
[01:49] <stas>                      NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at 0xeb001000, irq 23
[01:49] <DazeD|> they have em there
[01:49] <DazeD|> good good
[01:49] <stas> :$ that looks right
[01:49] <nxterra> no matter what theme I use when open up a window and move it around the CPU util. jumps to 70%-100% and does'nt refresh very fast
[01:49] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, sorry got major lag (from my wireless card)
[01:49] <stas> but the spdif out no worky
[01:49] <crimsun> stas: paste the output of amixer to pastebin.com
[01:49] <whiteknight> Reblended-log, i think you should also be abe to use the gnome network config
[01:49] <crimsun> stas: don't try to compile sound drivers. You would have ended up with an older, broken version.
[01:49] <stas> ok hold on
[01:49] <nxterra> I googled until I cant good anymore
[01:49] <stas> :$ really they're dated 25 march 2005...
[01:50] <stas> I thought that was fairly recent
[01:50] <nxterra> is this normal for gnome?
[01:50] <DazeD||laptop> gnome-net admin tool is great
[01:50] <femv> djm62, any idea ?
[01:51] <crimsun> stas: 1.0.4 is very old, over one year old
[01:51] <shinzui> i'm having a problem  installing ubuntu on one of my machines, i appreciate any help
[01:51] <djm62> femv: um...google the specific error message, maybe adjust the order of module loading, but that's a new one on me, I'm afraid
[01:51] <dazed> problem shinzui
[01:52] <djm62> google the error message along with your model of machine...someone has probably met this ;)
[01:52] <shinzui> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7213
[01:53] <shinzui> i've been making install cds evey week, and can't seem to get the installer to work
[01:53] <stas> ok
[01:53] <stas> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/270971
[01:54] <kangpeh> hey
[01:54] <kangpeh> i have a serious problem
[01:54] <kangpeh> after installing KDE - and the gtk2-for-qt thing - and baghira theme for kde...
[01:54] <kangpeh> i tried going back to gnome
[01:54] <crimsun> stas: and which alsa device are you using?
[01:55] <kangpeh> now gnome won't start, i see gnome-panel trying to start and it just goes 'boom' boom boom - but it wont start and im pretty sure it is gnome-panel thats breakin :(
[01:55] <propagandhi> shinzui: what exactly do u mean by the installer not working?
[01:55] <dazed> anyone run irssi in here?
[01:55] <stas> Cred,  how will I know?
[01:55] <stas> crimsun,   how will I know?
[01:55] <shinzui> if u look at the bug report that i linked, it has the details
[01:55] <shinzui> where it get stuck
[01:56] <Cuga> These nvidia problems im having are really starting to annoy me :(... I figured i'd have less headaches comming from an ATI card but i guess not ...
[01:56] <shinzui> i am wondering if there's a workaround
[01:56] <Cuga> Can anybody with a 6600GT help me get this working?
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> Cuga: it should work fine
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> what is the problem exactly
[01:57] <dazed> does anyone run irssi via term?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> kangpeh: have a look at ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/X*  logs
[01:57] <Cuga> HrdwrBoB: everything seems to install fine, i use the nvidia-glx driver from ubuntus archives and no errors show up in any logs, xorg or kernel
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> dazed: yes
[01:57] <Cuga> HrdwrBoB: i can start X fine, logo comes up
[01:57] <Cuga> HrdwrBoB: but after about 5 secs of using any GL app, system hangs
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> ok yep
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> ouch
[01:57] <Cuga> and monitor shuts right off
[01:58] <dazed> HrdwrBoB: is there a way to get rid of the blue bars or just make them invisible like the rest of  the term?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> dazed: http://www.irssi.org/?page=docs
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> (yes)
[01:58] <Cuga> HrdwrBoB: any ideas what I could try?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> I can't remember offhand, but the doco isn't too bad
[01:58] <Cuga> HrdwrBoB: i've been all over google and forums
[01:58] <dazed> HrdwrBoB: i looked there can u atleast tell me what itd be under?
[01:59] <marcin_ant> whoooa ubuntulinux has new layout
[01:59] <kangpeh> im having some serious issues right now if someone could help -- i have just installed KDE, gtk2-for-qt thing, baghira theme, and so forth... i tried going back to gdm/gnome and when i did - while it was 'logging in' it started making the sound i set for the error noise... i went in tried changing the theme and then it crashed.  i couldn't do anything so i did contrl+alt+backspace - and then tried again - this time i couldnt even log in
[01:59] <kangpeh>  period.  I am kind of at a deadend... and rght now im in kde but would like to get gnome working again ;)  If anyone knows of this situation, holler ;)
[01:59] <marcin_ant> and they paid 1000 bucks for something like this?
[01:59] <stas> how do I know which alsa device I am using?
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> dazed: http://www.irssi.org/?page=docs&doc=startup-HOWTO
[01:59] <blizah> whereis the ati control panel located?
[01:59] <rijad> hey
[01:59] <crimsun> stas: if you're not explicitly specifying anything, then you're not using the spdif output.
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> Cuga: what chipset on the motherboard
[02:00] <rijad> what does this mean; W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[02:00] <crimsun> stas: for instance, pkill esd and try aplay -Dplug:iec958 foow.va
[02:00] <dazed> HrdwrBoB: grr thats exactly where i was lookin lol i must be missing over it oh well thanks man~
[02:00] <crimsun> stas: foo.wav, rather
[02:00] <stas> ok hold on
[02:00] <stas> I only have mp3s handy
[02:01] <blizah> anyone know where fglrx-control (the ati control panel) is locatd?
[02:01] <stas> I installed that mad streamer thing though
[02:01] <paxmaster> hello there i am trying to configuring a dns server and which file should i add $TTL and SOA
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> dazed: no problem :)
[02:01] <paxmaster> the problem is i am reading a howto base on redhat
[02:02] <rijad> asnyone?
[02:02] <crimsun> paxmaster: into your zone's zonefile
[02:03] <crimsun> rijad: what were you trying to do?
[02:03] <paxmaster> which file example named.conf.option or named.conf.local
[02:03] <stas> ok
[02:03] <stas> aplay -Dplug:iec958 worked perfectly
[02:03] <paxmaster> cause i don't have /var/named
[02:03] <rijad> download the package files
[02:04] <stas> can I make that iec958 thing my default to play soundL
[02:04] <stas> ?
[02:04] <rijad> package-list
[02:04] <crimsun> stas: only if you use alsa directly. You'll have to create an ~/.asoundrc and redefine pcm.!default.
[02:04] <stas> how do I do that? :|
[02:04] <agabus> could someone please help me setting up my compiler so its optimizes for my processor?
[02:05] <jazon> how do i view my boot log?
[02:05] <Reblended> where do I find the gui for the wireless network settings?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> jazon: dmesg ?
[02:05] <stas> crimsun, how do I do that?
[02:06] <bily> I'm unable to install winetools... can someone help me please?
[02:06] <rijad> :( blaa
[02:06] <jazon> thoreauputic, nope, thats not what i am looking for.  I want to view everything that was displayed on the screen from Uncompressing Kernel...... forwards - I have an error and I need to know what it exactly says
[02:06] <dazed> HrdwrBoB: i cant get the topic bar to go away
[02:06] <dazed> i set it to inactive
[02:07] <dazed> HrdwrBoB: i got the window bar to go away but the topic bar will not go
[02:08] <dottedquad> what
[02:08] <Tinamoo> I installed ubuntu 5.04, but it stops at login screen and won't go further. is this a bug??
[02:08] <dottedquad> what's the command to see what is mounted?
[02:08] <Reblended> dazed, any idea where I can edit the wlan settings? I can iwconfig, but I"m not sure how to edit the settings... is there a program I can run?
[02:09] <dazed> reblended network-admin from your gnome system menu
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> dazed: just run /set
[02:09] <Reblended> dazed, hmm. I don't see wlan listed...
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> and check all the settings
[02:10] <dazed> Reblended: let me get onto gnome cuz im on fluxbox and everythings my own menu 1 sec
[02:10] <Reblended> thx dazed
[02:10] <dazed> ohhh
[02:10] <dazed> Reblended: you dont see wlan listed?
[02:10] <dazed> at all?
[02:10] <Reblended> I do if I sudo iwconfig wlan0 dazed
[02:11] <crimsun> stas: look at alsa.opensrc.org
[02:11] <shinzui> asking one more time, does anyone know of any workaround for  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7213  so i can install ubuntu on my new desktop machine
[02:11] <crimsun> stas: if you have further questions, ping me in here.
[02:11] <dazed> Reblended: hmmm let me boot my laptop into ubu and well troubleshoot
[02:11] <Reblended> dazed, oh, wow, ty !
[02:11] <dazed> Reblended: i remember i had a time with this...cuz the person that was working with me kept forgettin a small step and id have to go back and start over haha
[02:12] <dottedquad> nvm i figured it out
[02:12] <Cuga> HrdwrBoB: Can you think of anything for me to look at to fix my nvidia hanggin issue?
[02:13] <HrdwrBoB> Cuga: have you tried using the nvidia agp not agpgart?
[02:13] <Reblended> lol dazed
[02:13] <no0tic> has linux problems with > 4GB files?
[02:13] <Reblended> dazed, Found it!
[02:13] <Reblended> man, there's like too many network programs dazed
[02:14] <Reblended> sry to have you boot up... dazed
[02:14] <thoreauputic> no0tic: no - ext2 used to I think, but AFAIK ext3 is OK
[02:15] <dazed> Reblended: what was going on?
[02:15] <dazed> lol i just got on
[02:15] <no0tic> thoreauputic: I created a backup tar of about 4,3 GB and keeps appearing & disappearing into nautilus
[02:15] <dazed> connecting to irc as we speak
[02:15] <no0tic> thoreauputic: no problems with bash
[02:15] <dazed> Reblended: no prob i like being on ubu better than windows anyway
[02:15] <Reblended> dazed, I wasn't running the right network program... Setting wep now!
[02:15] <Reblended> lol dazed
[02:15] <no0tic> thoreauputic: how can I feed mkisofs with this file? it rejects it without options
[02:16] <thoreauputic> no0tic: more likely a problem with nautilus, sounds like
[02:16] <dazed> thoreauputic: u use irssi correct?
[02:16] <jazon> does anyone know how i can view my boot log?
[02:16] <thoreauputic> dazed: sometimes - xchat at the moment, but yes I use irssi too
[02:17] <thoreauputic> no0tic: I don't know why mkisofs rejects your file, sorry
[02:17] <dazed> thoreauputic: well i tried to get rid of this topic bare (the blue one atop) i got the one at the bottom gone but the top one wont go any ideas?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> dazed. not off the top of my head - have you looked at the themes on irssi.org ? some of them don't have the bars
[02:18] <thoreauputic> dazed, you might want to play with a few themes
[02:18] <dazed||lap> thoreauputic, do themes work when runnin in a term?
[02:19] <thoreauputic> dazed||lap: of course :)
[02:19] <thoreauputic> dazed||lap: they aren't GUI themes - just colour schemes etc
[02:19] <dazed||lap> thoreauputic, thats neat i didnt know thought it was only for gui version thanks for info :)
[02:19] <dazed||lap> gotcah
[02:20] <dazed||lap> good to know
[02:20] <thoreauputic> dazed||lap: there are lots of them - and screen shots
[02:20] <Reblended> dazed, agreed.. much better.. I just have to know the right commands that are obvious to old users...
[02:20] <Reblended> dazed, for instance.. I was like, I use DHCP... uhh, oh! there is the option lol
[02:20] <dazed||lap> thoreauputic, i see i see
[02:20] <dazed||lap> Reblended, i know how it is lol :)
[02:20] <no0tic> how can I create a file large as a dvd image to create into it an ext3 fs?
[02:21] <Reblended> dazed||lap, says active now.. hmm can't get on the net?
[02:21] <dazed||lap> ...
[02:21] <dazed||lap> hmm
[02:21] <dazed||lap> are u seeing activity in ur net monitors?
[02:21] <Reblended> dazed||lap, wlan0 is the default gateway
[02:21] <Reblended> I think it's just the loopback
[02:22] <Reblended> no new icons tho in the tray
[02:22] <dazed||lap> hmmm...
[02:22] <Reblended> it has activated, good sign
[02:23] <kangpeh> ok i fixed my problem.
[02:23] <dazed||lap> u have netid correct...i assume ur using wepkey and thats correct too and ur using DHCP right?
[02:23] <kangpeh> gtk2 qt engine has some kind of a problem
[02:23] <Reblended> wep dhcp, I try to ping the router, nothing, dazed||lap
[02:24] <Reblended> dazed||lap ping <IP_ADDRESS> nada
[02:24] <dazed||lap> hmm when i got to your point i was working....i assume your in a dead spot you close to the router?
[02:24] <Reblended> dazed||lap I'm in a spot that has perfect connectivity...
[02:24] <Reblended> dazed||lap  in netstat: active net services.. tcp <IP_ADDRESS>  uhh
[02:25] <dazed||lap> thats highly awkward
[02:25] <dazed||lap> ....
[02:25] <Reblended> I gotta get rid of the loopback?
[02:25] <dazed||lap> thats not righ
[02:25] <dazed||lap> yeah
[02:25] <dazed||lap> that did happent o me
[02:25] <dazed||lap> try trestarting ur network controllers
[02:26] <Reblended> dazed||lap ohh, in the devices tab, there is loopback or eth0.. not wlan0
[02:26] <dazed||lap> yeah that happens
[02:26] <dazed||lap> restart
[02:26] <dazed||lap> ur network controllers
[02:26] <Reblended> dazed||lap how. =p
[02:27] <dazed||lap> ur on livecd arent u
[02:27] <dazed||lap> i forgot...
[02:27] <Reblended> wlan0 shows up in the network settings... but  dazed||lap   yes
[02:27] <Reblended> can't restart dazed||lap  =]
[02:27] <dazed||lap> theres an init.d command but i forget it maybe someone in here knows
[02:27] <Reblended> init.d without restarting? dazed||lap
[02:28] <Huey> is there a way to switch the default configuration of gnome so that i can Alt+Right_Click to resize a window instead of Alt+Middle_Click?
[02:28] <dazed||lap> try typing in wlan0 into the devices tab
[02:28] <dazed||lap> and see if it picks it up
[02:28] <Reblended> dazed||lap hmm. let me see where you mean
[02:29] <Reblended> I don't need to create a location, do I? dazed||lap
[02:29] <dazed||lap> Reblended, do u see netmonitors in ur systray
[02:29] <dazed||lap> no
[02:29] <Reblended> yep.. first thing to load, I think from the moment the gui booted dazed||lap
[02:30] <dazed||lap> ok right click those click properties
[02:30] <dazed||lap> where it says eth0 or lo type in wlan0 and see what goes on
[02:30] <gpled> anyone seen docs on how to get your sound card working?
[02:30] <dazed||lap> to tell u the truth i think all ur lacking is a reboot :(
[02:31] <gpled> i have gotten some info from knopix.  sound works there.
[02:31] <Reblended> dazed||lap  100% signal strength...
[02:31] <Reblended> dazed||lap lemme see if I can ping
[02:31] <dazed||lap> it always says that
[02:31] <dazed||lap> that just means its connected
[02:31] <crimsun> gpled: need the output of the following on pastebin.com: lsmod, lspci -v, cat /proc/asound/cards, amixer
[02:32] <Reblended> dazed||lap lol ok... network is unreachable
[02:32] <dazed||lap> Reblended, are u seeing activity or is it just idle
[02:32] <Reblended> dazed||lap I typed in wlan0  idle
[02:32] <Reblended> dazed||lap I want a pseudo reboot =p
[02:32] <dazed||lap> that means its not getting any connectivity...that just requires restart im pretty sure :/
[02:32] <Reblended> lol ok
[02:32] <dazed||lap> it needs to configure what u had done
[02:33] <Reblended> IC dazed||lap shouldn't I tell it to do that in the terminal window?
[02:33] <Reblended> dazed||lap refresh adaptors without restart?
[02:33] <Reblended> you don't think that the loopback is messing things up? dazed||lap
[02:34] <dazed||lap> Reblended, i dont think the loopback is doing it....but i couldnt be 100% on that since i have yet to run into ur prob
[02:34] <Reblended> do you have loopback on? does it need to be on? dazed||lap
[02:35] <kennix> how do i run the xorg configure thing again?
[02:35] <gpled> crimsun: isapnp cs4235 codec:ws/sb driver ad1848  (it is not pci)  mods are cs4232 ad1848 sound and soundcore
[02:35] <dazed||lap> Reblended, i have it on my controllers list but i dont blieve its on
[02:35] <kangpeh> My X-Chat is now using KONQUEROR to open webpages :( - how do i set it back to using mozilla firefox??
[02:36] <crimsun> gpled: so you're using the oss/free driver
[02:36] <SuperLag> kangpeh: set it in your preferences
[02:36] <Reblended> change your default programs  (preferred)  kangpeh
[02:36] <kangpeh> my default programs is set to firefox already
[02:36] <crimsun> gpled: I'm only familiar with the alsa ones, which are snd-cs4236 (preferred) and snd-cs4232
[02:36] <kangpeh> (system->preferences->preferred applications)
[02:36] <Reblended> preferred aplications program  kangpeh
[02:37] <kangpeh> reblended
[02:37] <kangpeh> i jus tsaid i already did that
[02:37] <kangpeh> (system->preferences->preferred applications) <---
[02:37] <vessuvius81> how can I see what ip address one of my network interfaces has?
[02:38] <kangpeh>  :/
[02:39] <gpled> crimsun: those are the ones knoppix uses.  it is strange that ubuntu does not look at dmesg to get this info
[02:39] <Reblended> dazed||lap well, time to eat.. thx for all the hand holding
[02:39] <dottedquad> i did cdrecord -scanbus and on the first line it says 0,0,0 0) '' '' '' Disk and all the rest have * at the end.  Does this mean that it found a cdrom or my burner?
[02:40] <dottedquad> i'm trying to burn ubuntu to a cd using cdrecorder so i can install it
[02:40] <Reblended> much better to get BURNatOnce, dottedquad
[02:40] <dottedquad> ok
[02:40] <Reblended> very EZ  dottedquad =]
[02:40] <dottedquad> well i don't have a GIU
[02:40] <dazed||lap> Reblended, sorry i cant get it to workbetter but i think a restart will do it
[02:40] <dottedquad> GUI
[02:40] <Reblended> and free I think
[02:40] <kangpeh> so nobody know how to reset the x-chat browser default heh
[02:41] <Reblended> lol on live? dazed||lap
[02:41] <dazed||lap> Reblended, lol i know
[02:41] <crimsun> gpled: that's because that's a nasty method of pulling information
[02:41] <dazed||lap> once u install u know what ur in for :)
[02:41] <Reblended> dazed||lap yes.. great practice for me.. Thx again
[02:41] <dottedquad> Reblended is it gui based?
[02:41] <Reblended> all things are this fun? dazed||lap
[02:42] <Reblended> dottedquad, it's win based
[02:42] <dazed||lap> if not more!!!
[02:42] <dottedquad> ahh
[02:42] <Reblended> dazed||lap ROFL
[02:42] <dazed||lap> :)
[02:42] <Reblended> dazed||lap well eat time.. thx.. bye now
[02:42] <dazed||lap> np have fun
[02:42] <dottedquad> i don't have a GUI cause i can't get my damn ATI card to work
[02:42] <gpled> crimsun: going to reboot to clear all the modprobes i have been doing
[02:43] <Mellar> Jesterace_: In Flames?
[02:43] <dottedquad> so can anyone help me out to get cdrecord to work?
[02:43] <vessuvius81> yay! I finally got wireless working
[02:44] <Jesterace_> Mellar: yep
[02:44] <crimsun> (Subterranean or Whoracle all the way)

[02:44] <Mellar> Jesterace_: not bad for some Canadian dude ;)
[02:45] <stas> crimsun
[02:45] <dhonn> hey what is the recommended display resolution for Ubuntu
[02:45] <crimsun> dhonn: that depends on your display device
[02:46] <crimsun> dhonn: and of course what you prefer
[02:46] <crimsun> stas: yes?
[02:46] <frank> where are the files for the menus in gnome stored?
[02:46] <crimsun> frank: /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[02:47] <crimsun> frank: /usr/share/pixmaps/*  for the icons, usually
[02:47] <kevman> How do I install Java support?
[02:47] <dhonn> of course but what is ubuntu designed for?  1024x768 looks like its 640x480 in windows
[02:47] <frank> crimsun: thanks. menu-editor is still buggy
[02:48] <crimsun> dhonn: ubuntu isn't designed for any particular Mode
[02:48] <turboliv> hi all
[02:48] <turboliv> some french here ?
[02:48] <turboliv> i have some problem of refresh rate for my screen and need help/tips
[02:48] <PacoBCN> no, but I love croissants
[02:48] <kevman> Woo, it was installed :P
[02:48] <revelater> hey, xmule just crashed on me, how do i kill it?
[02:48] <dhonn> probably looks great in 1600x1200?
[02:49] <PacoBCN> revelater you can try with killall xmule
[02:49] <gpled> crimsun: where did you want me to paste output?
[02:49] <dazed> revelater: get a pid list (ps auwx) aand find the pid and kill <pid>
[02:49] <crimsun> gpled: pastebin.com
[02:49] <PacoBCN> revelater, if not you can type "top" so you see the process id and kill that
[02:49] <lucychili> croissants are nice
[02:49] <revelater> i got it, thanks
[02:49] <PacoBCN> revelater, or with the gui :)
[02:49] <turboliv> my screen in windows system supports 1024/768 @75 hz (perhaps 72)
[02:50] <PacoBCN> Last time I was in Marseille I ate 10 croissants a day
[02:50] <turboliv> but with ubuntu only 60 hz
[02:50] <turboliv> my poor eyes :'(
[02:50] <turboliv> any tip ?
[02:50] <frank> turbolive: you have to modify your xorg.conf
[02:50] <holycow> and add the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monito
[02:50] <holycow> r
[02:51] <holycow> you can usuallygoogle your model and make and the v and h refresh rates
[02:51] <turboliv> i'm noob on linux (my first day)
[02:51] <holycow> thats what determines possible refresh rates
[02:51] <turboliv> how to do ?
[02:51] <gpled> crimsun: here is lsmod http://pastebin.com/270993
[02:51] <holycow> well, first google your monitor model and make, and find the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[02:52] <dantheman> holycow: i was on asking questions yesterday about dual-boot....i actually pulled it off today
[02:52] <Anubis> nicotine keeps crashing
[02:52] <gpled> crimsun: what other info did you want to see?
[02:52] <stas> how do I install a program
[02:53] <stas> I downloaded a .deb package of it
[02:53] <PacoBCN> stas, you should check the guide
[02:53] <DazeD|> how do i auto register my nick upon connect?
[02:53] <holycow> dantheman, no kidding? congratulations :)
[02:53] <dantheman> does someone know of a good guide to installing the nvidia graphics driver?
[02:53] <crimsun> gpled: lspnp -v
[02:53] <holycow> dantheman, how did you do it?
[02:53] <PacoBCN> stas, however, it's "sudo dpkg -i pack.deb"
[02:53] <dantheman> well, it was quite a process
[02:53] <crimsun> dantheman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:53] <holycow> dantheman, easy ... its on the ubuntu guide website
[02:53] <dantheman> that involved about half a pack of cigarettes
[02:53] <dantheman> and a lot of stress
[02:53] <dantheman> thanks
[02:53] <PacoBCN> stas, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:53] <CygnusX1> Anyone know why 5.04 might be unable to install due to inability to load various IDE modules?  ISO checksum is good, CD file checksum is good.
[02:53] <dantheman> when i put in the new hard drive, and installed ubuntu on it, i just wrote grub over ntldr
[02:53] <PacoBCN> dantheman, no idea
[02:53] <vessuvius81> hmmm  on my wireless, I can see the access point, can get addresses resolved with nslookup, but I can't get a web page to load?  Any ideas?
[02:53] <PacoBCN> :(
[02:53] <dantheman> and for some reason grub would crap out
[02:54] <dantheman> error 21
[02:54] <dantheman> and i fiddled with some bios settings and rearranged the jumpers on the hard drives until they worked
[02:54] <dantheman> and now i get the grub menu, and everything works fine
[02:54] <dantheman> i'm not sure what the hubbub about a lack of gui installer is...i thought this install was a lot easier than fedora core
[02:55] <vessuvius81> the install is the easiest I've ever had
[02:55] <dantheman> yeah, it was ridiculously easy....it just did everything for me
[02:55] <dantheman> i just had to tell it to install on my other hard drive
[02:56] <holycow> yeah error21 usually means it cant find the partition, usually  you just haveto point it to the right partition
[02:56] <holycow> dantheman, the thing about this graphical installer is that it works on 11 architectures
[02:56] <holycow> in other words, it's superior :)
[02:56] <holycow> its justnot lickable
[02:56] <dantheman> i don't need lickables...i need something that works
[02:57] <dantheman> fedora let me kill windows xp without even asking me
[02:57] <gpled> crimsun: look like i do not have lspnp.  how can i get it?
[02:57] <jadoob> anybody know what to do if you lock yourself out of the sudoers file?
[02:58] <hypno> reboot into single user mode and fix it, assuming you dont have the root password
[02:59] <jadoob> alright, yeah got rid of the root password but didn't realize the sudoers file wasn't right
[02:59] <hypno> ut oh :)
[02:59] <jadoob> is there any real reason to use sudo rather than just su to root?
[02:59] <dantheman> well, i'm gonna go for now and pray that nvidia works well
[02:59] <stas> ok new problem
[03:00] <stas> dpkg: error processing cedega_4.3-1_i386.deb (--install):
[03:00] <stas>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[03:00] <stas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:00] <stas>  cedega_4.3-1_i386.deb
[03:00] <vessuvius81> wooo wireless works
[03:00] <vessuvius81> thank god
[03:00] <hypno> For when several people need root access to a machine, yes, it means you dont need to give out the root password. For when you're the only user, not so sure.
[03:00] <propagandhi> stas: is the machine i386 or AMD
[03:00] <gpled> anyone know how to get lspnp?
 wooo wireless works < how did you make it work, my friend had some problems with wifi
[03:00] <dazed> dfa
[03:00] <crimsun> gpled: you need to install pcmcia-cs
[03:01] <gpled> crimsun: k
[03:03] <dantheman> the Menu Editor isn't in Applications->System Tools
[03:03] <dantheman> anybody know where i might find it?
[03:04] <Quest-Master> danthemam: http://www.ubuntuforums.org <-- under third-party projects
[03:04] <Quest-Master> *dantheman
[03:05] <dottedquad> alright here's the problem i did mount /dev/hdd /mnt/burner with a cd that has 'stuff' on it and it mounted correctly so i unmounted it and popped in a blank cd and did the same command but i got an I/0 error.  I'm guessing that's because there's nothing on the cd?
[03:05] <dottedquad> the reason why i'm trying to mount the blank cd is to use cdrecorder to burn the ubuntu iso to a blank cd.. or shouldn't i do this?
[03:06] <dottedquad> i tried doing cdrecord -scanbus to see where my burner is and it didn't find it, so now i'm stuck and have no clue what todo
[03:06] <vessuvius81> use gnomebaker instead
[03:06] <vessuvius81> the default cd burner is messed
[03:06] <dantheman> i've downloaded a .deb package...how do i use it?
[03:06] <Agrajag> .deb for what?
[03:07] <dantheman> gnome menu editor
[03:07] <vessuvius81> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[03:07] <Agrajag> oh
[03:07] <Agrajag> what he said
[03:07] <dantheman> alrighty...thanks
[03:07] <vessuvius81> in the directory where its located of course
[03:07] <dottedquad> is dnomebaker gui?
[03:07] <dantheman> right
[03:07] <dottedquad> gnomebaker*
[03:07] <thoreauputic> dottedquad: yes
[03:08] <vessuvius81> yeah dottedquad
[03:08] <EricNeon> morning all~
[03:08] <thoreauputic> dottedquad: it's quite nice
[03:08] <nomasteryoda> EricNeon: evening here... greetings
[03:08] <dottedquad> well the problem is i'm without a GIU
[03:08] <dottedquad> GUI*
[03:08] <dottedquad> cause i can't get my damn ATI card to install
[03:08] <Flour> Hi. A lot of packages in dpkg -l are marked 'rc'. How can I remove all of these packages entirely? I tried to dpkg -P -a, but none of the packages I wanted to remove are being purged.
[03:09] <Flour> If possible I'd like to avoid doing it all by hand.
[03:09] <EricNeon> nomasteryoda, here is shanghai 8
[03:10] <Maxxist> well I followed the binary driver install how to.  and still cant get my nvidia drivers to go.  and now X is broken.  lol
[03:10] <thoreauputic> dottedquad: you don't mount a blank CD - it doesn't have a file system on it to mount :)
[03:10] <nomasteryoda> EricNeon: nice
[03:10] <nomasteryoda> 8 am tomorrow
[03:10] <nomasteryoda> cool
[03:10] <EricNeon> hah~
[03:11] <CygnusX1> During install of 5.04: Missing module 'ide-mod' ide-probe-mod ide-detect and ide-floppy. Anyone? ISO is good, CD filechecksums are good.
[03:12] <Cuga> Maxxist: what kind of nvidia card you have? im having a problem with mine aswell, i have a 6600GT
[03:14] <bogus> my 6600gt (pci-e) worked fine with the binary driver howto
[03:14] <stas> propagandhi, it's an amd64 machine
[03:14] <bogus> as well as my gf 440 go
[03:14] <Cuga> on hoary?
[03:14] <propagandhi> then the package u have isnt suited to it
[03:15] <bogus> yep both on hoary
[03:15] <stas> I thought amd64 could use run x86 code
[03:15] <bogus> fresh install btw
[03:15] <gpled> crimsun: lspnp -v gets:  lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[03:15] <bogus> what error do you get?
[03:15] <propagandhi> stas:u need one for your architecture - perhaps the amd64 could execute x86 code, but clearly it cant use that package
[03:16] <Cuga> bogus, where is the howto you are refering too, i just followed the readme from nvidias site
[03:16] <Maxxist> I am getting a FATAL: Module nvidia not found.  when I do a modprobe nvidia.  and apt says its installed.
[03:16] <bogus> owh don't follow the nvidia readme :)
[03:16] <bogus> one sec
[03:16] <stas> that's kind of silly
[03:16] <Maxxist> omg
[03:16] <Cuga> bogus, well from what i did, it installs fine, no errors anywhere, using nvagp, whenever i start gl apps they work great for about 5 secs then hang system
[03:16] <stas> isn't amd64 just a superset of i386?
[03:17] <bogus> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/view?searchterm=nvidia
[03:17] <Maxxist> someone told me last night to follow that binary driver install howto from wiki
[03:17] <stas> I mean under windows, I have no problems installing 32-bit software
[03:17] <Maxxist> it dont work for me.
[03:18] <Maxxist> I have done manual installs of the nvidia driver in FC many a time without problems like this.
[03:18] <propagandhi> stas: that may be true, but it seems pretty clear that particular package wont work
[03:19] <stas> I thought there might be a flag or something I could use to make it pretend that it fits
[03:20] <Cuga> bogus, so you are using the 7174 drivers?
[03:20] <stas> does this mean my system can't install i386 software?
[03:21] <csete> Hello.  I'm getting a seg fault trying to run vncserver on 5.04.  (AMD64)  Any suggestions?
[03:24] <kro> I'm trying to use netboot images to do a server only install of ubuntu similar to what is done when you type "server" at the cdrom boot prompt, how would I do that?
[03:24] <kro> How do I pass the "server" option?
[03:25] <kro> I'm doing everything fully automated.
[03:25] <ntoskrnl> hi
[03:26] <propagandhi> whats the fastest form of internet currently available anywhere in the world??
[03:26] <ntoskrnl> 100 MB
[03:26] <virtuald> heh
[03:26] <ntoskrnl> in my company
[03:26] <virtuald> 1000
[03:26] <propagandhi> whats it called?
[03:26] <virtuald> for private customers
[03:27] <virtuald> gigabit ethernet
[03:27] <ntoskrnl> its called "KASL"
[03:27] <propagandhi> thats ethernet
[03:27] <propagandhi> i mean internet
[03:27] <ntoskrnl> means "Kick Ass Subscriber Line"
[03:27] <virtuald> www.bredband2.com
[03:27] <Cuga> One of my remote offices has a A-10 (10 mb burstable) pretty damn fast
[03:28] <ntoskrnl> guys , what do you use to partition your harddisk?
[03:28] <ntoskrnl> Cuga : i feel it
[03:28] <propagandhi> Cuga: how do u get it, whats it called - who provides??
[03:28] <Cuga> Allstream is our provider (they are like the provider for providers)
[03:29] <Cuga> its called A-10
[03:29] <Cuga> i think they go higher too
[03:29] <Maxxist> ahh damn.  I needed to download new restricted modules based on my smp kernel.  geeezuz.
[03:29] <propagandhi> ok, and is that the fastest type available
[03:29] <HrdwrBoB> A10 is a tank buster army plane :)
[03:29] <virtuald> here in swedens theres an isp who offers 1 Gbit/s for about $110/month
[03:30] <ntoskrnl> guys , what do you use to make partitions in your HD ?
[03:30] <Maxxist> i feel sharp as a marble.
[03:30] <Jet2k5> hey guys I got this error, 'Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress.' but what package do I need, I thought I had all of them
[03:30] <Cuga> ntoskrnl; try qtparted
[03:30] <propagandhi> virtuald - are u serious??
[03:30] <virtuald> yes
[03:30] <ntoskrnl> Cuga : is it for Windows?
[03:30] <propagandhi> company??
[03:30] <virtuald> bredband2
[03:31] <djpowder> hi, i'm interested in dual booting winxp and ubuntu.  my motherboard/bios are fairly new, so will I have to worry about the 1024 cylinder boundary when creating the /boot partition?
[03:31] <Cuga> ntoskrnl, dont think so, i use it in linux
[03:31] <frank> djpowder: I had no problem
[03:31] <ntoskrnl> yeah , but i need a partitioner for Windows
[03:32] <ntoskrnl> Cuga : cause i don't have to power to partion my HD in Linux installation :P .. i'm afraid to loose all my WinXP Files
[03:32] <Cuga> Partition magic is pretty good if you got it
[03:32] <frank> djpowder I put Ubuntu at the end of my 2nd hard drive
[03:32] <djpowder> frank: thanks i'm gonna give it a shot without repartitioning :)
[03:33] <Maxxist> yeah a nice big nvidia splash screen.
[03:33] <ntoskrnl> Cuga : version 8 ?
[03:33] <holycow> i gotta say i also love the inclusion of open office 2.0 beta in universe
[03:33] <holycow> it's a wee bit crashy but usable none the less
[03:33] <virtuald> propagandhi: but only for people who live in the city of Lund in an appartment owned by HSB :)
[03:33] <Cuga> yeah thats what i use
[03:33] <propagandhi> crazy stuff
[03:33] <ntoskrnl> good
[03:33] <virtuald> 8-]
[03:34] <Nigelenki> hybernate apparently works
[03:34] <ntoskrnl> Cuga : thank you very much ;)
[03:35] <Cuga> np
[03:35] <ntoskrnl> see ya , bye
[03:35] <dantheman> can someone tell me how to fix firefox so that it doesn't give me the alerts every time i go to encrypted pages and stuff like that?
[03:35] <dantheman> i leave the boxes unchecked, but i keep getting them
[03:37] <dantheman> could it be because i'm changing the settings while i'm not logged in as root?
[03:37] <jason> can anyone help with gok, i can't get it to work
[03:38] <chillywilly> why isn't OOo 1.1.4 in hoary?
[03:38] <chillywilly> it's at 1.1.3
[03:38] <chillywilly> wassup with that?
[03:38] <^thehatsrule^> install it yourself?
[03:38] <chillywilly> it's been out for months
[03:39] <chillywilly> if you install it by hand then you loose all the file asociation bullshit
[03:40] <propagandhi> crazy look at these speeds: http://sitehost.redwheeler.com/network_connectivity_speed.htm
[03:40] <Nigelenki> suspend to ram
[03:40] <Nigelenki> can't find out how
[03:43] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, 1.1.4 came after the new upstream version freeze
[03:43] <dantheman> how do i log in as root?
[03:44] <a_peck> hey all
[03:44] <cowbud> dantheman: sudo su
[03:44] <dantheman> in the terminal?
[03:44] <Burgundavia> dantheman, Ubuntu uses sudo, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[03:44] <cowbud> yah
[03:45] <dantheman> do any of you know why my application settings might not hold between logins?
[03:46] <dantheman> like my firefox settings about alerts moving to and from encrypted sites
[03:48] <a_peck> dantheman, does it happen with everything or only firefox?
[03:48] <dantheman> it appears as though it's just firefox
[03:49] <dantheman> right now i'm trying to use about:config to see if i can fix it permanently
[03:49] <chillywilly> Burgundavia: will it ever make it into hoary?
[03:50] <chillywilly> what's the repo name for the new development version?
[03:50] <frank> breezy
[03:50] <frank> not much there though
[03:51] <a_peck> dantheman have you checked in your /home/user/.mozilla/firefox if your session (xxxx.default by default) is there?
[03:51] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, no, Hoary is now frozen
[03:51] <chillywilly> oh well I like to live dangerously
[03:51] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, only security fixes are going into hoary
[03:51] <chillywilly> alrighty
[03:51] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, I would hold off on breezy, as they are about to sync to debian sid
[03:51] <Burgundavia> and that will probably break a lot of things
[03:51] <jr_G-man> okay...i am able to view my raid partition with dmraid, etc.
[03:51] <chillywilly> bah...debian sid ;)
[03:51] <jr_G-man> how to i set it up so that it recognizes it on bootup?
[03:51] <Corai> is there a gui based way to configure samba or do I have to go back to the old vi?
[03:52] <chillywilly> is that they way they have always done it?
[03:52] <jsgotangco> bah what do you want etch?
[03:52] <chillywilly> or are they giving into the pressures of "compatability" ;)
[03:52] <dantheman> a_peck, i have not
[03:52] <dantheman> let me do that
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> asketch
[03:52] <infinito> anyone knows howto show mounted partitions from fstab on desktop???
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[03:52] <chillywilly> Ian Murdock had some not so nice things to say about Ubuntu
[03:53] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, they always sync to debian sid
[03:53] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, so that various patches can flow back and forth
[03:53] <tugalone> i've come to the conclusion that lookupd is evil.
[03:53] <dantheman> a_peck: it's not there
[03:53] <a_peck> hum, dantheman there's your thing then
[03:54] <a_peck> did you try re-installing firefox?
[03:54] <ablyss> infinito, type df in Terminal
[03:54] <dantheman> how do i fix it?
[03:54] <jsgotangco> what do you expect Ian Murdock has interests in Progeny
[03:54] <ablyss> infinito, oh nm.. i see you won them on the Desktop
[03:54] <chillywilly> jsgotangco: he was talking about Debian proper and compatability with Ubuntu
[03:54] <infinito> ablyss, i mean show volume icons on desktop like warty (gnome2.8) did
[03:55] <Al2O3> hello!
[03:55] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, as someone pointed out, some stuff in Debian sid does install on sarge
[03:55] <Al2O3> wow, 492 and counting.
[03:55] <dantheman> a_peck: how do i create a profile for myself in firefox?
[03:55] <chillywilly> Burgundavia: not sure what that has to do with what was said
[03:55] <ablyss> maybe ln -s /home/foobar/mounted_shares/ /home/foobar/Desktop/
[03:55] <Al2O3> I hear the screams about ubuntu being almost anti-debian at this point, why is the debian folks bitching about this when it is good for the exposure of the distro?
[03:56] <Burgundavia> chillywilly, Murdock specifically complained that Ubuntu stuff wasn't installing on Sarge, when in fact Ubuntu syncs to sid
[03:56] <chillywilly> too much politcal crud there
[03:56] <infinito> ablyss, i know symlinking works, but gnome used to show mounted volume icons on desktop, and i really liked that feature
[03:56] <chillywilly> I see
[03:56] <infinito> and don't know why ubuntu hide them
[03:56] <a_peck> dantheman, what does your profile.ini file say in that same directory?
[03:56] <a_peck> dantheman, about sessions of course
[03:56] <dantheman> in /home/user?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> chillywilly: it's a storm in a teacup: even in #debian there are plenty of people now using Ubuntu on the desktop - neither Debian nor Ubuntu wants a holy war
[03:57] <a_peck> dantheman, or profiles
[03:57] <dantheman> the only think i've got in my /home/user directory is a Desktop directory
[03:57] <dantheman> nothing about profiles or sessions
[03:57] <a_peck> dantheman it's a hidden file
[03:57] <ablyss> holy war? lmao.. "my computer can beat up your computer" --- I can see the computer parts flying already
[03:58] <dantheman> how do i see the hidden files?
[03:58] <dantheman> ah, -a
[03:58] <thoreauputic> ablyss: heh - emacs vs vi , KDE vs GNOME , etc - hopefully we've put all that behind us :)
[03:58] <a_peck> ctrl-h in nautilus, or right click show hidden files or -a in console
[03:59] <membreya> quick question guys, is there any way to tell when a cron job last ran?
[03:59] <dantheman> it's got a pathname to a XXXX.default file
[03:59] <geneo93> ablyss:  is that really you
[03:59] <dantheman> which appears to be my profile
[04:00] <ablyss> geneo93, yes I am came back from the dead
[04:00] <geneo93> from beos dead
[04:00] <a_peck> dantheman, delete it, try again. and when you close ubuntu next, check the "save settings" option
[04:00] <idn__> hi, dont suppose you could help me with a n00b question, but what exactly is a kernel header?
[04:00] <ablyss> geneo93, oh a beos fellow.. that be me too
[04:00] <Maxxist> I swear fonts look better in ubuntu than in FC3.  am I right?
[04:00] <dantheman> delete the XXXX.default folder?
[04:01] <membreya> anyone?
[04:01] <dantheman> should i make changes to profiles.ini?
[04:01] <geneo93> i figured as much
[04:01] <geneo93> kane here man
[04:01] <ablyss> lmao
[04:01] <a_peck> geneo93, i saw your violent reaction to mandrake yesterday. did you test the mandriva linux limited 2005?
[04:01] <ablyss> :P
[04:02] <geneo93> a_peck:  yes i have the piece off you know what
[04:02] <a_peck> dantheman, don't need to
[04:02] <dantheman> a_peck: do i delete the *.default directory, and do i need to make a change to profiles.ini to reflect that?
[04:02] <dantheman> alright
[04:02] <ltapd204> anyone know how to install mono with umbunto 5.04 64bit
[04:02] <ablyss> geneo93, man.. now that you are here i will definitely have a harder time restraining myself from blabing on about nothing important
[04:03] <a_peck> geneo93, wanted some feedback, got it :) lol
[04:03] <geneo93> pycube comes here once in a while
[04:04] <dantheman> a_peck: i deleted the .default directory, and now i can't get into gmail
[04:04] <geneo93> a- i changed my ip and loged back in just to see what was said
[04:04] <a_peck> dantheman, what do you mean you can't get into gmail? not at all, or not automatically. the latter would be normal
[04:04] <dantheman> let me get the error message
[04:04] <a_peck> dantheman, i think you'd like to reinstall firefox maybe
[04:05] <ablyss> geneo93, glad to see some friends here.. did you obelix store your identity here? yep he sure did.. had us all rolf
[04:05] <dantheman> oh wait
[04:05] <dantheman> now it works
[04:05] <ablyss> damnt it.. its a curse, its gotta be..
[04:05] <geneo93> haha ok i'm not going to say anymore then
[04:06] <ablyss> :P
[04:06] <a_peck> dantheman, try closing firefox, quit ubuntu and save the session. firefox pops up those "leaving secured site" warning on some upgrades too
[04:07] <dantheman> i think it's all fixed now...i just had to close firefox
[04:10] <Maxxist> is there an archiver for ubuntu that will do rar ?
[04:10] <Agrajag> install rar from multiverse
[04:10] <Maxxist> thank you
[04:10] <ells> anyone have any luck syncing a dell axim with linux
[04:10] <Burgundavia> Maxxist, unrar-nonfree
[04:11] <ablyss> geneo93, you like billards? foobillard is pretty fun
[04:11] <geneo93> well i avoid games that take skill
[04:11] <Burgundavia> geneo93, try kolf
[04:11] <geneo93> i play kolf though
[04:12] <ells> anyone have any luck syncing a dell axim with linux
[04:12] <ablyss> that table tennis game on linux takes a heck of a lot skil
[04:12] <Burgundavia> kolf almost makes me want to install kde
[04:12] <geneo93> kde 3.4 is great
[04:12] <Burgundavia> not really a kde person myself
[04:13] <holycow> would anyone know why open office prints a page basicallynormal, but scaled down to 2/3rds of a page?
[04:13] <geneo93> well i'm not a gnome either
[04:13] <Burgundavia> holycow, have you tested another printer?
[04:14] <holycow> yes, actually same printer works fine when i print from gedit
[04:14] <mkhan> hi i am new to ubuntu and i am doing the update using synaptic
[04:14] <mkhan> i got this message
[04:14] <mkhan> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:14] <mkhan> can anybody help me
[04:15] <Burgundavia> mkhan, check your clock
[04:15] <Burgundavia> mkhan, if that is wrong, that error will come up
[04:16] <mkhan> alright
[04:16] <Burgundavia> mkhan, it might be other things, but that is probably the most likely
[04:16] <mkhan> its set correctly to eastern standard time
[04:16] <mkhan> i never got it before
[04:16] <Burgundavia> mkhan, do you dual boot
[04:17] <mkhan> yeah i dual boot
[04:17] <Burgundavia> mkhan, windows might be messing with your time
[04:17] <geneo93> kill windows then fdisk
[04:17] <Burgundavia> geneo93, that is a little extreme
[04:17] <Xore> anyone here familiar with setting up virtualhosts on apache2 ?
[04:17] <mkhan> but the time that i see is correct when i check it with my wrist watch
[04:18] <Burgundavia> mkhan, sync it with ntp
[04:18] <Xore> primarily, what's the difference between sites-available and sites-enabled ?
[04:18] <geneo93> Burgundavia:  not in my eyes
[04:18] <mkhan> how do i do that
[04:18] <Burgundavia> geneo93, I might agree with you, but... nevermind
[04:18] <mkhan> i never got this message before
[04:18] <chad> question--i'm trying to set up dansguardian, squid, and dhcpd3(?) on a machine that's to be used as a firewall--anyone know how to do this?
[04:18] <mkhan> i started getting it recently
[04:18] <Burgundavia> mkhan, this may not be the issue, but whenever I ran into it it was due to time
[04:18] <Burgundavia> mkhan, right click on the clock
[04:19] <Burgundavia> mkhan, choose adjust date and time
[04:19] <mkhan> ok
[04:19] <Burgundavia> mkhan, check "sync with internet servers"
[04:19] <geneo93> chad:  try smoothwall
[04:19] <mkhan> ok i will do that
[04:20] <Paradiossina> is there anybody using pyslsk?
[04:20] <scott> I'm going to buy a wireless card. Should I get Intel b/g 2200 or Atheros a/b/g ?
[04:21] <chad> geneo93: as in a totally separate distribution?  I installed Firestarter and it could see both NICs, but couldn't set up the DHCPd server appropriately...
[04:21] <Burgundavia> scott, I have the dlink 650+. works ootb
[04:22] <Pluk> atheros here, indeed ootb
[04:22] <mkhan> Burgundavia, i tried to sync my time with ntp but it asked me to install it
[04:22] <geneo93> chad:  do you need a complete os for that purpose
[04:22] <Pluk> dlink has atheros chipset too right?
[04:22] <Burgundavia> mkhan, you should install it
[04:22] <mkhan> i did that
[04:22] <Burgundavia> mkhan, ok, now it should work
[04:22] <mkhan> but its again asking me to install it
[04:22] <chad> geneo93: this is for a church, so we're trying to keep costs down (i.e. nonexistent).  ;-)
[04:23] <Burgundavia> mkhan, there is a wierd bug associated with that
[04:23] <Burgundavia> chad, smoothwall is a linux distro specifically designed to be a firewall
[04:23] <mkhan> how do i get around it
[04:23] <geneo93> chad:  smothwall 2 is free
[04:23] <nickoli> chad: i have smoothwall
[04:23] <a_peck> chad, how does a church need a FIREwall??
[04:23] <nickoli> lol
[04:23] <chad> lol
[04:23] <scott> is there any advantage of the atheros over the intel 2200? I don't think I'll be using an a network
[04:23] <chad> chad kicks a_peck  ;-)
[04:24] <a_peck> lol
[04:24] <a_peck> :)
[04:24] <holycow> oh, if anyones open office is printing at 1/4 scale, do file / print settings, change on of the variables, then change them back and apply
[04:24] <geneo93> nickoli:  keep the devil out
[04:24] <holycow> appearently the 100% scale print config doesn't get set on install sometimes
[04:24] <nickoli> geneo93 w/e
[04:24] <mkhan> Burgundavia, is there a way to get around that bug
[04:24] <Paradiossina> is there anybody using pyslsk?
[04:25] <chad> so you'd say run a generic smoothwall install instead of running ubuntu/dans/squid/dhcp?
[04:25] <holycow>  it may still be an xprint problem perhaps as firefox prints at 1/4 scale
[04:25] <holycow> at least oo works
[04:25] <nickoli> holycow ever use 2.0 oo
[04:25] <geneo93> chad:  smoothwall is exlent firewall router
[04:25] <holycow> nickoli, right now infact
[04:25] <nickoli> holycow how is it
[04:26] <holycow> awesome
[04:26] <nickoli> holycow i dont use it often so i dont know if the upgrade would be worth it
[04:26] <holycow> it's like night and day
[04:26] <holycow> you will be amazed
[04:26] <nickoli> well now oo isnt starting
[04:27] <Burgundavia> mkhan, hmm, no idea
[04:27] <Burgundavia> mkhan, I think may just be a reporting bug. I suspect that it has enabled NTP, it just needs a reboot to tell it that
[04:27] <mkhan> i did the sync
[04:27] <mkhan> but still i am getting this message W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:27] <geneo93> ablyss:  you should try circuslinux
[04:28] <desrt> mkhan; that seems quite evil.
[04:28] <desrt> mkhan; don't install anything
[04:29] <Burgundavia> mkhan, I also see the error
[04:29] <desrt> mkhan; try changing mirrors and see if the problem goes away
[04:29] <desrt> i don't have that error
[04:29] <mkhan> so there is no way to get away with the error
[04:29] <mkhan> i did try changing the mirrors
[04:29] <desrt> well the error means that someone might be trying to hax0r you
[04:29] <Burgundavia> mkhan, I would try a reboot
[04:30] <desrt> Burgundavia; that won't help
[04:30] <Burgundavia> desrt, I seriously doubt it
[04:30] <ritalin> anyone know where I can get the latest fluxbox for ubuntu?
[04:30] <blizah> how do i use archive manager to unrar a rar?
[04:30] <blizah> err what do i use for *.rars in ubuntu?
[04:30] <desrt> Burgundavia; that's exactly the error that you would get if one of the mirrors was compromised
[04:30] <Burgundavia> blizah, unrar-nonfree
[04:30] <Burgundavia> desrt, or if you have time error
[04:30] <blizah> that in synaptic?
[04:30] <mkhan> yeah this is synaptic
[04:30] <desrt> Burgundavia; that's one hell of a time skew :)
[04:30] <Burgundavia> blizah, should be in multiverse and thus synatpic
[04:30] <desrt> mkhan; is your clock set correctly?
[04:30] <mkhan> i get the same error for apt-get too
[04:31] <Burgundavia> desrt, I used to get that all the time with my old laptop as windows would play with the time
[04:31] <mkhan> yeah my clock is set correctly to the eastern time
[04:31] <mkhan> new york time
[04:32] <mkhan> how could windows play with the time
[04:32] <desrt> mkhan; do an apt-key list
[04:32] <Burgundavia> mkhan, it plays with the system clock
[04:33] <Cuga> hey whats the default sync rates for a 17" monitor displaying at 1280x1024 ?
[04:33] <yyc747> I've installed openssh-server, how do I add it to my default runlevel?
[04:33] <desrt> Cuga; depends on the monitor
[04:33] <crimsun> yyc747: it's already added.
[04:33] <desrt> Cuga; what refresh?
[04:33] <desrt> 60Hz?
[04:33] <Cuga> 75
[04:34] <desrt> (**) fglrx(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz
[04:34] <mkhan> this is what i get
[04:34] <mkhan> /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
[04:34] <mkhan> --------------------
[04:34] <mkhan> pub  1024D/FBB75451 2004-12-30 Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:34] <mkhan> pub  1024D/1F41B907 1999-10-03 Christian Marillat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:34] <mkhan> uid                            Christian Marillat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:34] <mkhan> uid                            Christian Marillat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:34] <mkhan> sub  1536g/C28DCC42 1999-10-03
[04:34] <mkhan> sub  1024D/5D3877A7 2002-08-26
[04:34] <mkhan> pub  1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:34] <mkhan> sub  2048g/79164387 2004-09-12
[04:34] <desrt> woh
[04:34] <crimsun> please use #flood for floods.
[04:34] <Cuga> desrt, that doesn't tell me what the sync ranges are
[04:34] <desrt> Cuga; the sync ranges are ranges
[04:34] <desrt> if you set them to contain those values, then it will work
[04:35] <Cuga> i need vertical and horizontal
[04:35] <desrt> ya.  75 is the vertical
[04:35] <desrt> 80kHz is the horizontal
[04:35] <blizah> burgundavia k installed unrar-nonfree....how do i go about unraring an archive now?
[04:35] <nickoli> what plugin do i need to play mp3's, rhythmbox wont let me play them
[04:35] <blizah> tried to open it with unrar-nonfree but cant find it
[04:35] <Burgundavia> blizah, on the command line unrar e blah.rar
[04:35] <crimsun> nickoli: enable universe then install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:35] <blizah> k
[04:36] <crimsun> nickoli: see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:36] <nickoli> crimsun ok
[04:36] <mkhan> so help for me guys
[04:36] <mkhan> anyways
[04:36] <blizah> anything to mount a bin file?
[04:37] <blizah> damen tools or alchol 120?
[04:37] <desrt> Cuga; each mode (horiz x vertical x refresh-rate) has a specific horizontal and vertical scan rate.  the ranges in the X config file just tell the server what modes are ok (ie: if their scanrates fall within your specified range) and allows it to pick the highest possible refresh rate that your monitor supports for each resolution
[04:37] <kennethlove> can anyone help me with dyndns?
[04:37] <mkhan> thanks a lot for your help
[04:37] <Agrajag> Burgundavia: not unrar e, unrar x
[04:37] <mkhan> i will get back to you
[04:37] <Agrajag> e ignores all paths in the archive
[04:37] <desrt> so if you only want 1280x1024x75Hz then you could seriously set your range from like 74.9-75.1 and 79.9-80.1
[04:38] <jordanau> kennethlove,
[04:38] <Cuga> desrt thanks that worked
[04:38] <jordanau> you mean the domain name thing?
[04:38] <desrt> np
[04:39] <kennethlove> jordanau: yeah. for some reason i can't get outside connections. everything looks fine on the router, though
[04:39] <Cuga> my eyes thank you
[04:39] <Cuga> haha
[04:39] <desrt> heh
[04:39] <kennethlove> so i assume it's an ubuntu problem
[04:39] <jordanau> what ip are you using? is it a 168.192 nuber or something else?
[04:39] <kennethlove> when i do a 192.168 ip (local) it works. when i do the dyndns name, it doesn't
[04:40] <stazich> hey guys does anyone know the chatroom of yellow dog linux?
[04:40] <desrt> kennethlove; you have all the port-forward stuff setup?
[04:40] <kennethlove> i do belive so, yes
[04:40] <desrt> what is your DNS name?
[04:40] <kennethlove> kenneth.homelinux.org
[04:40] <jordanau> kennethlove, you need a different ip
[04:40] <Al2O3> is GNUstep on ubuntu pretty solid?
[04:40] <Al2O3> anyone doing development with it here?
[04:41] <desrt> kenneth.homelinux.org has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:41] <duken> hi, i have problem while compiling squid source
[04:41] <desrt> 21:40 [freenode]  -!- kennethlove<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:41] <Al2O3> either as an app level developer or actually doing some fo the GS development.
[04:41] <kennethlove> hmm.
[04:41] <desrt> you're a long way from home :)
[04:41] <desrt> have you ever used the name from a different isp?
[04:41] <kennethlove> no
[04:42] <desrt> kenneth.homelinux.org belongs to someone using pcisys.net
[04:42] <desrt> whoever that is
[04:42] <duken> checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
[04:42] <duken> checking for gcc... gcc
[04:42] <duken> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  -g) works... no
[04:42] <duken> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[04:42] <duken>
[04:42] <duken> how to fix it ?
[04:42] <desrt> duken; did you apt-get install build-essential?
[04:42] <kennethlove> damnit. i've been typing that wrong all day. :) it's .net
[04:43] <desrt> ah.  does that solve your problem, then? :)
[04:43] <D_F> For some reason, I can't make the TeamSpeak client start in Ubuntu 5.04.
[04:43] <jordanau> kennethlove, haha work now?
[04:43] <kennethlove> no
[04:43] <desrt> ok
[04:43] <desrt> what service are you trying to use?
[04:43] <desrt> web? ssh?
[04:43] <duken> desrt: thanks
[04:43] <kennethlove> web for now
[04:43] <desrt> duken; np.
[04:44] <stas> hi
[04:44] <desrt> kennethlove; can you access http://localhost/ from your ubuntu box?
[04:44] <kennethlove> it's set right in the router
[04:44] <jordanau> stas, hi
[04:44] <stas> can I use macromedia flash on my ubuntu?
[04:44] <jordanau> stas, yes
[04:44] <stas> I can't install it :|
[04:44] <desrt> stas; add universe/multiverse and apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:44] <D_F> Why won't Teamspeak work? :(   It worked on other Debian-based distros fine! :(
[04:44] <stas> I have AMD64 though..
[04:44] <desrt> oh.
[04:44] <stas> it refuses to install
[04:44] <desrt> no flash player for amd64
[04:45] <desrt> macromedia doesn't release one
[04:45] <stas> same with cedega
[04:45] <frank> stas: it can only work through a chroot
[04:45] <kennethlove> yeah, desrt, localhost is a go
[04:45] <frank> stas: AFAIK
[04:45] <desrt> kennethlove; either your ISP blocks web or your router does
[04:45] <stas> I saw a how-to for a 32-bit chroot
[04:45] <chad> teamspeak works fine for me on 5.04...
[04:45] <stas> but it's like 4 pages long
[04:45] <desrt> lots of ISPs block web... mine does
[04:45] <frank> There is one on the forum
[04:45] <kennethlove> switching to 8080 should fix it, right?
[04:45] <stas> would it be easier to just scrap this and install the i386 version of ubuntu
[04:45] <stas> ?
[04:45] <desrt> probably
[04:45] <kennethlove> k. i'll try that then
[04:45] <Pluk> flash works but you need a 32bit chroot
[04:46] <frank> stas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[04:46] <kennethlove> thanks for the suggestion
[04:46] <stas> yeah heh I saw that
[04:46] <desrt> you don't need to switch to 8080 on the inside
[04:46] <D_F> chad: I have no idea why it will not work!
[04:46] <desrt> just change the port forward setup on your router
[04:46] <stas> it's kind of daunting
[04:46] <stas> what if I screw up somewhere? ;p
[04:46] <kennethlove> i don't need to change apache?
[04:46] <desrt> no
[04:46] <frank> stas: it would be easier for this and also for alot of video files
[04:46] <desrt> your router almost definitely will allow you to forward port 8080 to port 80 on your inside machine
[04:46] <duken> anyboy have documentation about squid server ??
[04:46] <D_F> chad: All I did was install it, but when I run "TeamSpeak", it just will not start!
[04:47] <desrt> so you can leave apache alone
[04:47] <kennethlove> oh yeah. thanks again
[04:47] <desrt> np
[04:48] <stas> frank, so what do you suggest
[04:48] <duken> anybody have documentation about squid server ??
[04:48] <stas> do I stick to amd64
[04:48] <desrt> stas; install 32bit
[04:48] <stas> hmm
[04:48] <desrt> stas; there's no real point to running amd64, seriously
[04:48] <stas> am I sacrificing anything by ditching the amd64 version?
[04:48] <Cuga> for the life of me i can't get a stable GL app working, 10 secs and hang system
[04:48] <desrt> your l33tness
[04:48] <Pluk> indeed :)
[04:48] <stas> lol not much of that to start with ;p
[04:48] <D_F> chad: What did you do when you installed TeamSpeak? I just cannot make it work for some reason :S
[04:49] <desrt> amd64 is l33t :)
[04:49] <Pluk> but the howtoin franks link works great
[04:49] <desrt> just go 32... everything runs a lot nicer at the time being
[04:49] <stas> ffs it'll be another 45 minutes until the image finishes downloading!
[04:49] <desrt> get a cablemodem while you're at it :)
[04:49] <stazich> hey guys does anyone know the chatroom of yellow dog linux?
[04:49] <tsume_> :)
[04:49] <tsume_> I'm going to be switching a few windows boxes to linux, yay
[04:50] <desrt> tsume_; use gentoo.  it rocks.
[04:50] <desrt> :)
[04:50] <tsume_> desrt: gentoo sucks
[04:50] <tsume_> bigtime
[04:50] <desrt> :(
[04:50] <tsume_> binary packages are the _only_ way to go
[04:50] <desrt> well
[04:50] <stas> >stas< CTCP VERSION
[04:50] <stas> * Received a CTCP VERSION from stas
[04:50] <stas> -stas- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic [x86_64/1.01GHz]
[04:50] <tsume_> and deb has proved worthy :)
[04:50] <desrt> certainly, ubuntu makes a much better windows replacement than gentoo does
[04:50] <stas> can I maybe prevent xchat from telling my life story
[04:50] <stas> on a version request?
[04:50] <tsume_> desrt: it makes a good any replacement
[04:51] <desrt> stas; ignore ctcp version requests
[04:51] <tsume_> desrt: I use ubuntu -unstable to keep up with updated software ;)
[04:51] <stas> oh
[04:51] <stas> how
[04:51] <kennethlove> desrt: 8080 doesn't seem to have changed anything
[04:51] <desrt> kennethlove; sucks :(
[04:51] <kennethlove> yeah...
[04:51] <desrt> kennethlove; are you sure your router isn't in 'stealth mode' or something?
[04:51] <kennethlove> pretty sure, yeah
[04:52] <desrt> hmm
[04:52] <tsume_> version me ;)
[04:52] <stas> arf
[04:52] <desrt> cute :)
[04:52] <kennethlove> desrt: ok. something that might be fucking it up. the linux box is connected to the net through my ibook....
[04:52] <stas> I quit by accident\
[04:52] <Pluk> lol
[04:52] <desrt> uhm.
[04:52] <stas> how do I block VERSION requests? ;p
[04:52] <kennethlove> so instead of <IP_ADDRESS> or something, it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:52] <desrt> so like, nat twice?
[04:53] <desrt> like through the router and through the ibook and then to the linux box?
[04:53] <D_F> Can anyone help me get Teamspeak client working? :)
[04:53] <tsume_> stas: mmm its in the menu for xchat
[04:53] <kennethlove> yeah
[04:53] <desrt> omg.  you gotta be kidding
[04:53] <desrt> that would definitely do it, ya :P
[04:53] <kennethlove> heh. nope.
[04:53] <kennethlove> any ideas for how to get around it?
[04:53] <desrt> is the ibook nat or is it a router?
[04:53] <kennethlove> uh....
[04:54] <kennethlove> no idea. i've set it to share net connections and it's not running a firewall
[04:54] <desrt> can hosts on the outside network connect directly to your ubuntu box?
[04:54] <desrt> ah
[04:54] <desrt> 'share net connection' == nat
[04:54] <kennethlove> no, i don't believe so.
[04:54] <kennethlove> k
[04:54] <desrt> you also need to setup a forward on the ibook then
[04:54] <desrt> and set the router to forward the connection to the ibook
[04:54] <desrt> and the ibook to forward to the ubuntu box
[04:55] <desrt> may i ask *why* your network setup is so whacked out? :)
[04:55] <kennethlove> alright. sounds doable.
[04:55] <kennethlove> sure.
[04:55] <desrt> router <-wireless-> ibook <-wired-> ubuntu?
[04:55] <kennethlove> exactly
[04:55] <desrt> ya.  that's a pretty cool setup
[04:55] <desrt> i've done that before :)
[04:55] <kennethlove> works pretty damn well so far....'scept for this
[04:55] <desrt> i used to own a beautiful 12" ibook G4
[04:55] <holycow> btw, my info on oo.o printing at 1/4 page was wrong
[04:56] <desrt> but it since has been replaced with a 15" powerbook
[04:56] <kennethlove> yeah, i'm running a 12" g4
[04:56] <holycow> the solution turns out to be to set the correct dpi setting for your print in system/admin/priting
[04:56] <desrt> 800 or 1.2?
[04:56] <kennethlove> 1.2
[04:56] <desrt> nice
[04:56] <desrt> mine was a 800
[04:56] <kennethlove> yeah. quality machines
[04:56] <desrt> then work bought me a powerbook
[04:56] <holycow> if the default for printer is 600dpi and you put in 300, it will print at 1/4 size naturally
[04:56] <desrt> so i sold it :P
[04:56] <holycow> just a heads up if anyone cares
[04:56] <kennethlove> heh. don't blame you
[04:56] <desrt> i wish i had the ibook
[04:56] <kennethlove> any ideas on how to route this?
[04:56] <desrt> laptop  using osx?
[04:57] <kennethlove> use the money to buy a mini. :)
[04:57] <kennethlove> yeah
[04:57] <desrt> well.  obviously.
[04:57] <desrt> since wifi doesn't work in linux
[04:57] <kennethlove> that's something else i want to fix someday. :)
[04:57] <desrt> there ought to be something in the network control panel
[04:57] <kennethlove> linux box has a wifi card.
[04:57] <desrt> lots of people want to fix that
[04:57] <desrt> airport extreme on linux, that is
[04:57] <kennethlove> can't come soon enough
[04:58] <thelsdj> so who saw last nights episode of veronica mars? :)
[04:58] <kennethlove> yeah. i need to get a d-link card running
[04:58] <desrt> is it one of those stupid 'double speed' ones?
[04:58] <thelsdj> here's transcript for whoever missed it: http://thelsdj.org/veronica-ubuntu
[04:58] <jordanau> thelsdj, no but LOST was a rerun...
[04:58] <kennethlove> desrt: uh. not sure. dwl-g510
[04:58] <Primal79> hola
[04:58] <thelsdj> you know you've become popular when you're mentioned on network television teen drama :)
[04:59] <kennethlove> desrt: k. i'm in the network control panel...
[04:59] <desrt> the goodnews is it's 54mbit
[04:59] <desrt> instead of some crackrock 108mbit
[05:00] <kennethlove> yeah. got a good deal on it, too. something like $20 new
[05:00] <desrt> sweet
[05:00] <desrt> you can get it working in ubuntu with ndiswrapper
[05:00] <kennethlove> really? there's tomorrow then. :)
[05:00] <desrt> heh
[05:01] <jordanau> anybody have experience with the canon A95 digital camera , want to buy one soon
[05:01] <desrt> g510.. weird
[05:01] <desrt> see here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:01] <desrt> it's not on the list, but a lot of cards with very similar product numbers are
[05:01] <kennethlove> yeah, i noticed that a couple of days ago.
[05:02] <a_peck> thelsdj, what shw is that from?
[05:02] <a_peck> show*
[05:02] <Burgundavia> desrt, sometimes they change wireless chipsets through minor version changes
[05:02] <thelsdj> a_peck: veronica mars
[05:02] <thelsdj> best show on tv this season
[05:02] <desrt> Burgundavia; ya.  i know.  it's an evil practise :(
[05:03] <kennethlove> desrt: well, if it can get online through that, i won't worry about this port forwarding. can you help Primal79, though? he has problems with dyndns too (friend of mine) but without the crazy setup
[05:03] <Primal79> just let me know what i should tell you...
[05:04] <chillywilly> anyone ever use ooo2dbk (OpenOffice.org to Docbook converter) and have an idea of how to author a document in OOo 1.1.x so that it converts?
[05:04] <Fazer> Hi, can anyone help me with the Live CD?
[05:04] <etzerd> hello eveeryone
[05:04] <jordanau> hey ezterd
[05:04] <Fazer> It works fine but I can't access the internet.
[05:05] <Fazer> I mean, my PCMCIA card is blinking and everything
[05:05] <etzerd> Hi  Jordanau
[05:05] <Fazer> and I can get the IP address and what not
[05:05] <kennethlove> fazer - obviously you can since you're in irc. :)
[05:05] <etzerd> I want to know how to install real player
[05:05] <desrt> Primal79; uh.  what's wrong? :P
[05:05] <Primal79> i had the same probs fazer
[05:05] <Fazer> kennethlove: Uh, I booted back to XP
[05:05] <desrt> etzerd; go to real.com and download it
[05:05] <Fazer> Primal79: I hope it isn't a driver issue?
[05:06] <desrt> etzerd; then save it to your home directory
[05:06] <kennethlove> frazer - oh. you'll probably have better luck with the install CD since the live CD can only do so much probing and configuring with your system.
[05:06] <desrt> etzerd; then open a terminal and type this:
[05:06] <desrt> chmod +x RealLinuxGold10Whatever
[05:06] <desrt> sudo ./RealLinuxGold10Whatever
[05:06] <SiRrUs> hello
[05:06] <jordanau> etzerd, i hate realplayer
[05:06] <desrt> when it asks you where to install it, say /opt/real
[05:06] <shad0w1e> how do I update my warty to hoary ??
[05:06] <Primal79> kennethlove can't seem to connect to my computer even though i've set up firestarter, apache, forwarded ports 80, 8080, and 22
[05:06] <desrt> other than that, i think the defaults are good
[05:06] <jordanau> etzerd, just thought i would tell you...
[05:07] <etzerd> Jordanau: I have Mplayer
[05:07] <Primal79> fazer: no installed using install cd and all works well
[05:07] <Fazer> kennethlove: Hmm, what I don't understand is that if the PCMCIA network card is blinking and what not, I just can't seem to connect to anything, not evne IRC via the Live CD...what makes you sure that it will work once I have installed it?
[05:07] <jordanau> etzerd, i like it do you?
[05:07] <Fazer> Primal79: Ah, shits.
[05:07] <kennethlove> fazer - worked for primal.
[05:07] <Fazer> kennethlove: Yeah I just saw :P
[05:07] <etzerd> Mplayer? hell no
[05:07] <kennethlove> heh
[05:07] <shad0w1e> I upgraded my ubuntu 4.10 by changed my sources.lst and getting kubuntu. but my kernel is still old. whats the best way to update everything at once ??
[05:07] <desrt> etzerd; find it?
[05:07] <Fazer> my current HD is partitioned in NTFS.  I guess it will automatically convert it to ext3?
[05:08] <etzerd> desrt: what should I type
[05:08] <desrt> i just told you what to type
[05:08] <etzerd> I'm on the website
[05:08] <desrt> download it
[05:08] <desrt> http://www.real.com/
[05:08] <kennethlove> fazer - you'll tell it to during the install
[05:08] <linuxpoet> How does one increase the shmmax on ubuntu?
[05:08] <etzerd> I know how to download it.
[05:08] <desrt> big button says "download realplayer"
[05:08] <etzerd> just give me the command
[05:08] <Fazer> kennethlove: Ah, okay.
[05:08] <desrt> i already did
[05:08] <Riddell> sjoerd: apt-get install linux-686
[05:08] <desrt> scroll up
[05:08] <Fazer> Primal79: Did this happen on your Laptop?
[05:08] <Riddell> sjoerd: apt-get install linux-686 kubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <Primal79> on a desktop
[05:09] <Primal79> any suggestions, desrt?
[05:09] <shad0w1e> how do I update everything using apt ?
[05:09] <Fazer> oh man, i am scared =(
[05:09] <desrt> shad0w1e; apt-get update
[05:09] <CarlK> how can I tell what the .config looked like that buil the stock kernel?
[05:09] <desrt> shad0w1e; followed by apt-get upgrade
[05:09] <linuxpoet> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:09] <shad0w1e> desrt: thanks. will that update my kernel too?
[05:09] <desrt> shad0w1e; if there is a new one available, yes
[05:10] <desrt> shad0w1e; doing dist-upgrade like linuxpoet said might potentially upgrade more stuff, so you should do that
[05:10] <dataw0lf> Hello gents.
[05:10] <shad0w1e> there sure as hell is. I'm using <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:10] <linuxpoet> How can I set my shmmax for Ubuntu... redhat uses /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:10] <desrt> shad0w1e; ow :)
[05:10] <linuxpoet> oh looks like we do to
[05:10] <shad0w1e> man linux is nuts
[05:10] <desrt> linuxpoet; so does ubuntu
[05:10] <shad0w1e> every week ther's HUGE updates!!
[05:10] <desrt> shad0w1e; that's stopped happening now
[05:10] <kennethlove> shad0w1e: yeah, but they're not security patches. :)
[05:10] <shad0w1e> I just installed my ubuntu system maybe a month ago
[05:10] <dataw0lf> Only because Hoary just came out.
[05:10] <desrt> shad0w1e; hoary is frozen now.  only security updates from now on
[05:10] <Primal79> kenneth: what's the best way to explain the situation to desrt?
[05:11] <shad0w1e> oh I know
[05:11] <shad0w1e> hoary just became final
[05:11] <linuxpoet> ahhh much better
[05:11] <darkx> shad0w1e, would you prefer windows updates?
[05:11] <shad0w1e> HELL NO!
[05:11] <desrt> Primal79; kenneth is trying to connect to you?
[05:11] <darkx> ^^
[05:11] <Primal79> yes
[05:11] <shad0w1e> no this is cool. its just that if i dont keep on top, people freak out by how old my system is
[05:11] <shad0w1e> u know..
[05:11] <desrt> Primal79; and you're using ubuntu and a home router?
[05:11] <Burgundavia> shad0w1e, at least most linux updates to stable systems don't break the system
[05:11] <Primal79> yes, and using dyndns
[05:11] <shad0w1e> def.
[05:11] <desrt> Primal79; what is your dyndns name?
[05:11] <dataw0lf> dyndns?
[05:11] <Primal79> rayandamy.dyndns.org
[05:12] <dataw0lf> people still use that?
[05:12] <darkx> Burgundavia, and linux patches etc tend to not introduce 10 times more exploits and bugs than they originally fixed ^^
[05:12] <Fazer> alright folks
[05:12] <Fazer> I am going to go install Ubuntu now
[05:12] <Fazer> keyword: install
[05:12] <Fazer> wish me luck =(
[05:12] <etzerd> desrt: I'm done download realplayer
[05:12] <kennethlove> g'luck
[05:12] <darkx> good luck
[05:12] <hypno> how does ubuntu handle the transition between releases? Don't users have to change their apt.sources and run a dist-upgrade?
[05:12] <Fazer> i hope my PCMCIA works
[05:12] <dataw0lf> hit up the forums if you need help.
[05:12] <darkx> enjoy :-
[05:12] <darkx> D
[05:12] <shad0w1e> my sources.list still says warty. should I change that ?
[05:12] <Fazer> hehe
[05:12] <etzerd> what's the command now?
[05:12] <dataw0lf> hypno: sources.list, but yeah.
[05:12] <darkx> hypno, basically
[05:13] <shad0w1e> I mean by the title
[05:13] <desrt> shad0w1e; ya :)
[05:13] <shad0w1e> not by..
[05:13] <shad0w1e> by deb:cdrom
[05:13] <desrt> shad0w1e; i think there is a wikipage on upgrading from warty to hoary
[05:13] <dataw0lf> eh, it's pretty easy.
[05:13] <shad0w1e> its sort of done..
[05:13] <darkx> hypno, synaptic tends to help it be a more user friendly process
[05:13] <geneo93> anyone got time to help me with my scanner
[05:13] <desrt> Primal79; just poking at you right now :)
[05:13] <dataw0lf> s/warty/hoary/g in sources.list, and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:13] <etzerd> sesrt: don't forget to give me the command for realplayer
[05:13] <desrt> Primal79; you don't need to install any firewall software
[05:14] <shad0w1e> wow
[05:14] <shad0w1e> 613 packages
[05:14] <Primal79> so no firestarter?
[05:14] <AgentQ> i did it the way dataw0lf said and it worked nice and easy
[05:14] <desrt> Primal79; wow.  your ISP filters a *lot* of ports
[05:14] <Primal79> cox...
[05:14] <pestilence> geneo93: just ask
[05:14] <Primal79> there goes fazer
[05:14] <desrt> 21, 22, 23, 25, 80, 135-139, 445, 1080, 1433, 6588, 8080, 27374/tcp
[05:14] <dataw0lf> Mine actually broke when I dist-upgraded to Hoary, but with a bit of dpkg --force-overwrite magics, all was well in dataw0lf kingdom.
[05:14] <Primal79> all blocked?
[05:15] <desrt> so both 8080 and 80 are blocked.  and 22
[05:15] <dataw0lf> that's because I have a highly tweaked system, though.
[05:15] <shad0w1e> finally my drives are mounting in kde as well. yay to that
[05:15] <shad0w1e> (automounting)
[05:15] <AgentQ> i'd heard some bad stories about the upgrade, but it went fine for me
[05:15] <Primal79> how can 80 be blocked?
[05:15] <desrt> incoming
[05:15] <desrt> you can only make outgoing connections on it
[05:15] <dataw0lf> eh, there's nothing unfixable with the dist-upgrade.
[05:15] <geneo93> well i have an epson 1250 photo and sane finds it but wants to use bt878
[05:15] <dataw0lf> the Ubuntu team did a good job.
[05:15] <Primal79> i can't open it on my router?
[05:15] <AgentQ> that was my experience with debian as well
[05:15] <pestilence> geneo93: bt878 is a tv tuner, do you have one of those too?
[05:15] <geneo93> yes
[05:15] <dataw0lf> AgentQ: yeah.  It's better than the equivalent in most rpm based distros, though.
[05:16] <Primal79> err... actually that's just forwarding
[05:16] <geneo93> pestilence:  with fm radio as well
[05:16] <AgentQ> you bet...i just flat won't use rpm distros anymore
[05:16] <pestilence> geneo93: so, scanimage -l finds your scanner?
[05:16] <geneo93> no
[05:16] <desrt> Primal79; no.  basically, your ISP are facists :)
[05:16] <dataw0lf> AgentQ: Eh.  I have to take care of about 10 RH servers at work.
[05:16] <pestilence> geneo93: well, then sane isn't seeing your scanner :)
[05:16] <Primal79> desrt: any suggestions on a port to try then?
[05:16] <Fazer> Hi, btw.  Does the Live CD not support USB mice?
[05:17] <kennethlove> desrt - that's my isp also, btw. :)
[05:17] <shad0w1e> after I update to hoary will I have a splash (startup) screen ?
[05:17] <desrt> Primal79; 81? 8888?
[05:17] <dataw0lf> And a dozen or so Tru64 workstations, and three or four Tru64 servers.  Those are even worse.
[05:17] <desrt> Primal79; as i told kennethlove, you don't need to reconfigure apache
[05:17] <geneo93> scanimage: option requires an argument -- l
[05:17] <AgentQ> dataw0lf: i'm just a graduate student in chemistry, i play with computers on the side
[05:17] <desrt> just change the external port number to 8888
[05:17] <dataw0lf> shad0wle: a grub splash screen?
[05:17] <desrt> so that it bounces 8888 to 80 internal
[05:17] <shad0w1e> no
[05:17] <shad0w1e> after grub
[05:17] <dataw0lf> AgentQ: Ah, I'm a lead system administrator.
[05:17] <Primal79> let me try that then...
[05:17] <pestilence> geneo93: huh?
[05:17] <dataw0lf> shad0w1e: yeah
[05:17] <Primal79> wait. bounces?
[05:18] <geneo93> that was to output
[05:18] <pestilence> geneo93: what about -L
[05:18] <shad0w1e> dataw0lf: great, thanks!
[05:18] <dataw0lf> shad0w1e: np.
[05:18] <Fazer> Will my USB mouse work fine with a Hoary install? Since it doesnt work on the LIve CD
[05:18] <Fazer> Its a 3 button mouse with a scroll wheel
[05:18] <pestilence> sorry.
[05:18] <Primal79> desrt: no sure how to do that
[05:18] <geneo93> device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname BT878 video (Hauppauge (bt878)
[05:18] <dataw0lf> Fazer: yeah, it should.
[05:18] <desrt> Primal79; it'll be in your router web setup page
[05:18] <pestilence> geneo93: and that's the only thing it shows?
[05:18] <geneo93> yup
[05:18] <Fazer> hmmm
[05:19] <geneo93> sane find scanner finds it though
[05:19] <shad0w1e> how to I delete all my downloaded packages ? where are they stored?
[05:19] <dataw0lf> Fazer: I have a usb MX1000 laser logitech, if that works, anything will.
[05:19] <Fazer> dataw0lf: Heh, did it work on the Live CD?
[05:19] <Primal79> is it triggering and forwarding?
[05:19] <dataw0lf> shad0w1e: /var/apt/cache
[05:19] <shad0w1e> dataw0lf: thanks
[05:19] <dataw0lf> Fazer: I've only used the live cd on my laptop once.
[05:20] <dataw0lf> on which my mx1000 wasn't hooked up.
[05:20] <dataw0lf> So I can't say for sure.
[05:20] <Fazer> dataw0lf: Oh =(
[05:20] <Fazer> Bah, I guess its install time then.
[05:20] <geneo93> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x010f, chip=LM983x?) at libusb:001:002
[05:20] <pestilence> geneo93: what do you mean, sane finds it?  sane-find-scanner does?
[05:20] <dataw0lf> shad0w1e: eh, I mean /var/cache/apt
[05:20] <dataw0lf> sorry about that.
[05:20] <dataw0lf> <-- exhausted.
[05:20] <AgentQ> dataw0lf: i do have to maintain the army of pcs in my research group, but they're pretty much all windows boxes...blech
[05:20] <shad0w1e> gotit
[05:20] <Fazer> installation time, laters everyone.
[05:21] <geneo93> pestilence:  only as root though
[05:21] <dataw0lf> AgentQ: yeah, we have about 20 or so W2k machines, that we auth with OpenLDAP + NIS
[05:21] <Primal79> anyone know how to bounce port numbers on a router?